yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] attbrandon:
I rooted my s4 just to try it and I'm stuck trying to get it to go back to stock.

I have a note 3 now and I've got everything going well with that but the s4 (I have the I337).

I have it rooted and the phone will start and is a perfectly functional android phone, but whenever I try to get it into recovery mode I can only get it to go to download mode. Odin flashes to stock fail with this:

<ID:0/005> Added!!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> I337UCUAMDB_I337ATTAMDB_I337UCUAMDB_HOME.tar.md5 is valid.

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5)..

<ID:0/005> File analysis..

<ID:0/005> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/005> Initialzation..

<ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/005> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/005> aboot.mbn

<ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/005> FAIL! (Auth)

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

the stock flash was linked to by others I found on XDA.

Also, details about the phone:

Jelly Bean 4.2.2

Baseband I337UCAMF3

Clockworkmod 6.0.4.4

Thanks for any and all help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Venom0642:
You cannot add a custom recovery to MF3 if the phone came with that firmware you will get hard brick

Sent From My Galaxy S4 SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 Running On New Deadly Venom v1.3.6 Jelly Bean 4.3

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I wish I could help more but I'm on the road hopefully someone will explain it better then what I mention.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 Running On New Deadly Venom v1.3.6 Jelly Bean 4.3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
Because you are on MF3, the bootloader is locked and there is no exploit. Therefore, custom recoveries won't install. The reason ODIN is failing is because you are using the MDB files instead of MF3. It is impossible to downgrade the firmware back to any previous version. If you want a recovery, the most you can get is Safestrap, but make sure you read up plenty on it before you install it, as it is not a normal recovery and is not even installed to the recovery partition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ramiijabedd:
need help

every time i try to reset my galaxy s4 att to stock it fails heres what it says

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5.. <OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable.. <OSM> Please wait.. <OSM> I337UCUAMDB_I337ATTAMDB_I337UCUAMDB_HOME.tar.md5 is valid. <OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully.. <OSM> Leave CS.. <ID:0/005> Added!! <ID:0/005> Odin v.3 engine (ID:5).. <ID:0/005> File analysis.. <ID:0/005> SetupConnection.. <ID:0/005> Initialzation.. <ID:0/005> Get PIT for mapping.. <ID:0/005> Firmware update start.. <ID:0/005> aboot.mbn <ID:0/005> NAND Write Start!! <ID:0/005> FAIL! (Auth) <OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] megamanDJ:
Grab the MF3 Odin flashable tars and flash them the same way to get back to complete factory stock. Or you can get the MK2 tars and update to 4.3 and use Saferoot to easily get root since you already have drivers installed. Then look up how to install Safestrap for MK2, (which is really not too difficult), and TWRP v3.71to use as a recovery.
[Paranoid Android Q&A] BlackHayze:
Hi,

I installed PA and it has been working fairly flawlessly on my Sprint HTC One. But, only issue is with voicemail. I hold 1 to dial voicemail, but get some complementary bahama trip advertisement. I listened to the entire thing thinking it may be a one time thing, but then it disconnected me when I never wanted to call a sales rep, and repeats it if I dial voicemail again. Any ideas on how to fix this issue or what is up with this?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dcoz:
Hi, I done a few searches for this, but couldn't find an answer. The Note 10.1 2014 along with the Nexus 10 (both 2500x1600) leave borders when connected to a 1080p TV/monitor via HDMI. This (at least to my understanding) is because they are outputting at a ratio of 16:10 where HD is 16:9. Is there a way to solve this without using some sort of zoom/cropping on the TV side? My guess is the only way to get a perfect image is to have the tablet send a 1080p signal and probably create borders on the tablet as they only allow mirroring. On the plus side this would allow them to run smoother as they would be pushing far fewer pixels.

I've not used Miracast, but am assuming it would suffer from the same problem?

Any info/help would be appreciated, thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dcoz:
Trust my brain to kick-in "after" the last moment and think about searching for a resolution changer!

I found this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2300248

I've not read it all, but seems to be what I was looking for although it requires a root which I don't really want to do just yet!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dcoz:
Has anyone tired NOMone Resolution Change? Requires Root.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nomone.resolution_changer
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] DeBoX:
Anyone tested this , or found a non root solution.

I have the same issue with allshare cast
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] C2Q:
I wouldn't try the resolution changer or script thing if I were you. Apparently it doesn't like our device even when rooted. Someone a while back posted a thread which basically rendered the device useless because of the resolution changer and he had to flash stock firmware again or something to get it back to normal. I have the same issue with the black bars thing when using MHL and I couldn't find a solution for it anywhere for this device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dcoz:
Thanks C2Q, guest we just have to sit tight and wait for updates. Devices with a resolution of 2500x1600 should be at the top of their lists especially considering the significant performance increases you could expect from dropping the resolution to 1920x1080.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jpearn:
I tried the 1920x1080 and got stuck in a bootloop :( To fix it I had to use adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.setting*s/databases/settings.db from TWRP, open the DB in SQLite, remove the 'freeze resolution' entries in the table and push it back. It was a good learning exercise but I don't want to do it again !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dcoz:
Thanks for the warning. That would definitely had been the first thing I would have tried after rooting. I'm sure you've saved few of us.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hramalho:
I live in Portugal, but bought a Galaxy S4 (GT-i9500) in qatar. The screen is wanting to come off a bit. I have the invoice to purchase the Galaxy. So I wonder if the samsung warranty is international.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Squeazer:
You'd need to find the same store you bought it from, that's how it usually works, but even then, i think it only applies to the country you purchased it from.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] arty93:
Just wondering if I can somehow change settings so that I leave the note 10.1 Spen in its place and write with the note 2 Spen, right now in order to use the note 2 pen I have to take out the note 10.1 from its place. Otherwise it won't let me write.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ajamudc:
In Settings, go to the S-Pen settings and uncheck 'Turn off pen detection'.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] arty93:
Thank you!
[Nexus 4 General] douglasanpa:
The jenkins Cyanogenmod started working upon CM11

http://jenkins.cyanogenmod.org/job/android/50246/﻿

More information about this build

http://jenkins.cyanogenmod.org/job/android/50246/parameters/

Download:

http://download.cyanogenmod.org/get/jenkins/50246/cm-11-20131205-SNAPSHOT-M1-mako.zip

Sorry for English, I used google translator
[Nexus 4 General] douglasanpa:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cm-11-0-m1-nexus-edition
[HTC One SV] BeastCoast:
Has boost mobile got the 4.2.2 update for the htc one sv? Ive been waiting for weeks.
[HTC One SV] Modding.MyMind:
No, and expect to wait just a little longer. Boost is usually at the bottom of the list sad to say.
[HTC One SV] russellvone:
[MENTION=5591135]BeastCoast[/MENTION]

Welcome to the XDA community!

Hope you find all ask for here, and don't be shy if you have any questions, just be sure to use the search option.

We welcome your queries and hope you learn everything you can.

This should be a great experience for you, if you plan to sick around.

!#quote my post if you want to get my attention more quickly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kalkat579:
I am trying to help my friend with his Rom as I have some xperiance from the note 2 I got a new computer running windows 7 I installed the android sdk, the Java sdk, and apk multi tools set it up as normal but when I try to decompile anything I keep getting errors and can't decompile anything I was wondering if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong or tell me what I did not setup correctly I set it up according to a guide here on xda that I used the first time I have team viewer if some can help me I would greatly appreciate it
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Euler MD:
Hi guys, so I have a stock N5 and it won't charge over USB or AC unless the phone is turned off. I've tried to factory reset with no luck.

My current theory is that something's up with android itself, instead of BIOs. Has anybody else experienced anything similar to this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david23c:
when I first turned on my N5 and connected it via USB to do various root related stuff, my battery actually went down with each reboot. Even connecting to the AC cable charged it pretty slowly. But now it's charging fine via USB or AC (although the charging speed with USB does seem a lot slower than my previous phone, Galaxy S3)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Euler MD:
Yeah, the phone charges over AC slowly here too, but strangely enough it won't even make a USB connection with a computer as your phone did.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roiw28:
Same Problem!

Hi,

I'm having the same problem.. I could use it well and charge it over USB nicely but know it only charges when the phone is turned off. You could solve the problem??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] stebra:
Hi,

I've done a lot of reading through this board on upgrading the wizard.

So far i managed to sim unlock, CID unlock, unlock extended and backup my original roms with the tools provided on FTP (awizard etc).

Still I have a problem with upgrading my ROM(s):

If i use one of the .exe (self exe RAR) ROM versions my Activesync stops, the device kind of restarts in a green/red/blue screen with usb at the bottom. After a while the upgrade program tells me I have a 260 error (Update error). Every time I have to remove the battery and restart the device. And it comes back with my original system....:-(

Seems I cannot upgrade the device or I am doing something wrong...

Same thing with all versions and even the radio ROMS

There is a possibility to upgrade with Awizard but i dont have the decrypted version of any Rom. I only have the nk.nbf files or total .exe packages. Awizzard wants a decrypted .nba file which I don't have.

I woul like to upgrade my OS and radio roms but cant figure out whats wrong here...

Can anyone help me out?

Currently running:

IPL 1.0.3

SPL 1.0.3

Radio 1.4.10

ROM 1.3.2.3 NLD

TNX in advance,

steven
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] pcdoc:
Are you sure you unlocked the CID? you need to hit "c" instead of "u" at the dialogue during the unlocking..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] stebra:
Seems to me that I unlocked the thing, here's the output:

If I do it again Old and newdata are the same

*********************

* Please Choose one of the following options:

e - Enable RAPI

u - Unlock CID (!!!PLEASE RUN THIS ONE TIME FIRST!!!)

b - Backup Radio, OS and Extended ROM from device

m - Modify OS nba file (To be released soon)

x - Extract contents of nba file (To be released soon)

r - Write Radio ROM to device (!! RUN unlock 1st !!)

w - Write OS ROM to device (!! RUN unlock 1st !!)

q - Quit this program

__________________________________________

!!! ATTENTION! Please use this tool at your own risk!!!

__________________________________________

* Type letter then press [Enter]:u

* Please connect your Wizard to the PC with USB ActiveSync connection,

* then press [Enter] to start, or q to main menu:

Initializing........CID unlocking mobile... DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBOOTS!

MachinaGod lokiwiz

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x10000, lock_backup.bin)

g=92: f18b8326 - fbf46456dce0d0e5

Key idx: 92

olddata: 3e5a9da0d509e3be4042bbc17eb91f20621e8365aeb43277cf2858b925828379

newdata: 95ea23df0bf16432cf7be60912a5cbdedee342037c9d3bd3dee342037c9d3bd3

newsum=47d6a486 encsum=1c548b5bc9987dd1

This exe file was created with the evaluation version of Perl2Exe.

For more information visit http://www.indigostar.com

(The full version does not display this message with a 2 second delay.)

...

CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)

result=80072746

Your phone is now CID unlocked....

Store the generated 'lock_backup.bin' file in a safe place. It can help to restore your device if an

ything goes wrong.

* Press [Enter] to continue
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] zawoot:
mm, got the same problem over here. After i flashed (succesfully) from vario to qtek rom i cant install any other roms. Activesync simple disconnects when running the .exe roms files.

done so far

- hard reset vario

- reset computer

- hard reset vario with empy extended rom

- reinstalled activeSync
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dan13l:
I'm trying to apply the latest imate rom over my UK Vario and have the same problem - as soon as the bootloader appears on the device, Windows drops the connection to the phone and the update fails.

Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] molski:
You can try this maybe

1) Start phone in bootloader (hold camera button and press on)

2) DO NOT allow USB connections for ActiveSync

3) Attach the USB cable to PC and PDA

4) Start ROM Update (So just doubleclick the .exe file)

5) Click next 1 or 2 times and try to flash the damn thing ;)

Good luck boys and don't forget to post your results :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dan13l:
Thanks for the suggestion, but it didn't work.

As soon as I connect the usb to the pc and phone, when the device is in the bootloader screen, Windows detects an "unknown usb device" and prompts for drivers. I doesn't find any/I don't have any, and so the device isn't connected properly. Subsequently, the RRU utility can't talk to the phone :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeroeng33:
I read some other post where someone first downgraded his qtek 2.x firmware to a 1.x Qtek (same brand) and then unlocked and upgraded to another brand firmware.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dan13l:
I've got mine to work - it's the cable! The cable I was using was ok to sync with Activesync, but wasn't USB2, and so the bootloader didn't work with it.

Having now upgraded, the old USB sync cable doesn't even work with Activesync, so cable matters!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setspeed:
Before anyone starts yelling "Best <insert blank> threads aren't allowed!!" this is NOT a thread asking for the best of anything.

I've carefully gone through the all the kernel dev threads and not found what I want, so I'd like to know if I've missed something.

I'm looking for a kernel that will allow me LED control and volume increase on Cataclysm ROM. I would ask in that thread, but I'm afraid of getting savaged for cluttering it up!

Anyone help me?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] david23c:
I'm pretty sure most kernels (i.e. franco) support volume increase, but I haven't seen any kernel that has LED control. I use Light Manager on Google Play to set up custom LED colors for apps and it works perfectly.

also you could try Viper4Android for volume increase and other fantastic audio tweaks
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] setspeed:
I'll give Light Manager a go, but it never really worked too well for me on my last phone (S3), and nor did Light Flow, which is why I wanted kernel control. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
does someone get 3g stick with the new n7 working?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ObiDanKenobi:
Yes, just today. You need to have your language set to En-Us, have root, and use PPP Widget. If the modem is found, and you cannot browse the net DNS is broken, so you need an app like DNS Changer to set up alternative DNS to 8.8.8.8
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Winudert:
Heard something about portable hotspot in your phone? No wires, nothing. Pure 3G or even LTE.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
thanks, but ur answer is not the best solution for me cause of the batterie drain of my old smartphone with a small batterie capacity.

thats why asking for external 3g stick. u should to learn reading textes carefully and in details. maybe ur answer is helpful for other users but not in my case. thank u very much for ur try ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
thanks dude!

which kernel and rom u are using?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] subhumanderelict:
I...Oh my God. I don't think this was on purpose.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ObiDanKenobi:
CleanRom 2.5 and Elementalx 2. 3 kernel
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
did u try external sd card on otg?

my otg helper recognise but when i press the mount button the app will close.

i´m on cleanrom 2.6 and elementalx kernel now.

havn´t tried 3g stick yet but i guess it wont even work.

cheers
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
i tried to set up the 3g stick but the ppp widget app closed like the the usb otg helper.

maybe it is due to kitkat and google blocks all things like these? or need a new kernel.

in the recovery mode the n7 external sd card works!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ObiDanKenobi:
Otg Helper Crashes also in my case, that's why I use StickMount. If you're using NTFS drive you have to open terminal and type "su" <enter> "setenforce 0"<enter>, then you can also write on the card.

I definitelly recon that PPP Widget and DNS is fiddly in KitKat. I got it to the point where it does not crash, The last change that I did was changing the system language to EN-US, reboot, and then it stopped crashing, it recognize the modem and it connects. My biggest problem is the DNS, as the DNS Changer used to work for a few hours, i could browse the net with the modem stick, but after I got home DNS did not work, so this part still has to be figured out.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
ok, sd card is working now. thanks.

ok ppp cant find my modem. using huawei e173.

maybe it is not compatible.

but 2 years ago it worked with a china tablet. and even ppp widget could find the stick.

if everything work so i open so i will open the n7 and place the pcb of the stick inside the n7 because the stick even got a micro usb card reader.

it will be much better then the n7 2012 with 3g version.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] KindsKoPP:
i built a micro usb sd card reader for the n7. the first is too long maybe. the second will be shorter. works fine now.

for travelling the external card reader will do its work as an media memory saver.

but the 3g stick does not work yet. dont know why yet.
[General Questions and Answers] WADE_HADI:
is there anyway ro fix #mm6 on galaxy s3. I need serious help. anyone
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattBooth:
Will someone rip the camera apk for guys on the GPe phones? :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
I don't think its that simple, theres a couple new camera files and libs labelled camera, so just uploading the apk might not work as intended. You can get the update from here and mess around with it http://android.clients.google.com/p...ed-hammerhead-KOT49E-from-KRT16M.7ed504f6.zip
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattBooth:
I'm running an SGS4 GPe :( so the OTA is no help for me
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Generic112:
I'm having a strange problem with my phone. Earlier today it stopped booting for some reason (Gets to boot animation, then reboots), so I figured something was wrong with my ROM. So, I went into CWM and tried to wipe my phone, but when it got to wiping /data, my phone rebooted. Nothing allows me to format /data, and my phone refuses to boot. I would Odin to stock, but I don't have the files (or know which ones to use as my phone had the bootloader required for newer CM), and I'm worried it may cause more problems. Anyone know how to fix this?

FIXED: So... Yeah, that was weird. The second (and I do repeat, second) time I tried to wipe data with no external sdcard (A suggestion I saw in another thread), data formatted like it was no one's business, and I was able to flash a new ROM to my phone. So, I guess everything is good now.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ecjwz:
is there anything that i can use to root on windows 8?

i want to remove some bloatware

any help is appreciated
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Nothing to see here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Changelog

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Download link

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] eterno13:
Waitning for this thanks...will try now

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Upload Uploading?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJSteveMX:
Cool!

Downloading...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xda23:
Are gapps included? And do I Need The New baseband. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Hint: thread title is [ROM][KK][4.4]BeanStalk 4.4015 12/05/2013 | AROMA | GApps | En/Esp/De/Et/Sv/Ru/Fr

I'm on the new baseband and it's good so far.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xda23:
Oh! Shut I'm sorry man.lol

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I'm still on 4.2.2 baseband right now can I still get Data signal or do I need mk2? Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJSteveMX:
You still get data
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] eterno13:
Amazing ROM first 4.4 customizable!!!! Thanks

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Trying to apply wallpaper and fc any idea?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] byron1985:
Love the initial build everything seems to be working great also liken the new lg camera. Kinda missed the Samsung one this is kinda close
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] niccuany:
Could you (or someone) just upload the LG camera app? This rom looks very promising though, can't want to try it out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Somebody already uploaded it. Check the Apps section.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] kill_dano:
I missed Halo so much. What version is this; 2.0? Halo should be sucked into AOSP by google.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] lordcheeto03:
lol @ people complaining about the method of delivery on a product distributed at no charge.

Seriously though, thanks for the rock-solid BeanStalky 4.4 experience... Battery life is phenomenal so far; almost 14 hours of bluetooth, GPS, and music and I still have 60% left.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Naddict:
Thread cleaned... Keep trolls at bay, report them immediately and do not reply, that only feeds them.

If you have nothing nice to say, it is best not to say anything at all then. Nice to meet you all, I will be visiting more often now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] djfreaq:
So excited to install this. I thought CM11 was 4.4 based (you say 10.2 based in Op)?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] lordcheeto03:
It's definitely 4.4, which would in fact be CM11; just a relic from the copy/paste from the 4.3 thread I guess.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] CrashTestDroid:
Yes and updated to 4.4.1, thanks for the notice I've updated OP