[Galaxy S 4 General] Absolon:
Hi,

as you might have guessed I am not a real newbie. ;)

This project

I thought this would be an excellent thing to bring together people who had different levels of experience and do a community project,

I hoped to raise the level of knowledge of all (including me). I knew that I would had to teach a lot of basics but I also thought that this would give

some attention of the "real" devs that could assist where we would fall.

I wanted to find "hungry young blood". People who where willing to learn and having a thread where you where not afraid to ask newbie questions.

Because all started as newbies and sadly many of the "wizards" have forgotten that they also had to learn, ask, get help etc.

The idea was also to teach and make the development process open, even there as something to see, learn, do mistakes and not keep the

work outside here as is often the case until it gets posted.

And foremost I wanted to make this something fun and with the passion that I saw in the first answers of you that where willing to do this.

SO...

With all this in mind I started this thread with the hope that the little I9506 community would gather people and maybe we would be able to get help

from some more experienced devs.

But then this post was moved to "General". And I don't agree with that. This is a 100% device specific thread,

The fear of too many posts and cluttering the I9506 forum was the reason (it's hardly valid any longer since it's TOTALLY the opposite).

Even 16000 characters of advocating for this didn't help (but I got to know a nice fellow instead! So it was not futile! :cool:)

Since the sheer volume in General is so large this post is on page 5 in 2 days and it never got any chance to be what I envisioned.

So as far this is the case I has abandoned this or rather it's "frozen".

A little Newbie-advice since this IS a newbie post right? :)

About posting

XDA is in the Top 50 sites of the world and have over 1 million visitor/day according to global stats.

I know how much courage it takes to do the first post on a forum of this size

And then you might have the misfortune to meet someone that jumps on you for some reason, "just because" that has 1232 posts.

And you put weight, knowledge, experience and weight in the answer, Don't!

The levels that you get (as my "Senior") is very misleading because it's based on the number of posts you write and they have bad names

and you should never associate or reflect that with some kind of knowledge that is not earned. If you want to know. Check his/hers stats. Then you know!

Having 1232 posts does mean that you know more then others! It just mean that you are good at sitting and bull****ting on a forum!

Ignore the unfriendly users that will just jump on you for no reason at all because of some kind of penal complex and the need to project their

sad bitterness of their failed life on someone. I get them too. Just think "Poor sad person that only have a forum to show some kind of superiority".

ASK! But of course, search first! Because getting the same question over and over is not fun and THAT irritates people. Including me.

Our device and the current situation

I9506 is a "between" device where all now wait for the S5 (interesting if they will manage to gain root)..,

And since all do that there is no interest in this device AT ALL from the real experienced people.

So we are abandoned and alone and most of us sit on a contract.

But don't despair! We have a "monster"! :laugh:

Even if Antutu doesn't give a real value it gives a hint and this device is actually FASTER the Note 3! So still it's not a bad phone! Far from!

The "Group"

As far as I know we are only 4 people who know something and can produce something. But since this didn't turn out we work outside XDA.

As the rest and the opposite meaning of this project.

We are not "hardcore" and are not in the parity of the "real rom devs", but we do progress and we hit some walls where we didn't think there was.

I have some hopes with the Note 3, but it wasn't as easy as I thought.

So we are a little group. If there is someone more, then please PM me! We need you! (but then you will not see this post...)

My 100% believe is that (it's the same board as Note 3) is that it's a "tossed together" phone because they closed the production of the I9505.

Just to have a replacement. And it feels like that. Also the shipped rom we got (and I compared it to my Note 3 and others) makes me even more

sure this was their development rom they used.

So my hope was to port Note 3 things, but it was not that straight forward.

Here I got lifesaving information! Thank you [MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION] for that!

We had some pitfalls but also some breaks. And we have created just a few days ago a kernel based on the Samsung's release.

This is the first step and we need someone to test it so if you want, let me know in a PM.

Because it should not make any difference and that is the purpose here because then we know we are on the right track!

Android 4.3

Knox has taken up unwanted time. And what we have found if 4.3 is just scary.

두고 보자 !

If you want to sell your personal integrity for $800 then go ahead. I won't!

With 4.2.2 that we have Knox is OFF. If you upgrade to 4.3 Knox goes ON. Your choice. I don't want Knox. Final.

My opinion is that 4.3 is not worth the consequence. I have it on my Note 3 and I can honestly say that my 4,2,2 is cooler with Xposed and the

modules there! Know also that if you do upgrade, at least I can't help you, because I won't install that bootloader.

PLEDGE

Mr/Mrs moderator that will read this

Please. Look at us. We have

15

posts in total in the forum!! And 3 are about the same subject...

There are no "real devs" and we are totally left alone and are abandoned. There is no interest to port things. I've asked. None.

This device is considered a parenthesis. We don't even have a proper custom recovery! A hacked one!

This section is so small that General/Q&A/Development can be in the same place. Please....

Even if we would manage to reach 50 posts, that you seriously can't call "volume".

Can't this thread be moved back so we all can sit down and have a discussion about what to do since we are on our own?

How can a device specific development project be "General"?

If this is not what the "spirit" of learning, exploring and the enthusiasm that it created then I don't know what is?

It was meant to be against the "elitism" that sadly exist from many.

Let us lift up people, spread the knowledge, make it a nice place and create new stars of tomorrow? "Sharing is Caring!!"

We will never get a "real rom" if we don't do it ourselves.

And we are in trouble, because Samsung threw this phone together just to have something after they closed the I9505-production.

This is a replacement phone and all sit and wait for S5 now. It's already end of Jan. But most of us are stuck in contracts for yet 1.5 years.

So we have NO support from the devs. Even Samsung's own dev-site doesn't have this phone listed!!

And we can't yet manage to compile our "own" recovery because we lack things from Samsung that is, as always stonewalling....

So please. Relax the rules here. You see so many other things through the fingers. This is such a special case.

I did a general post to collect the sparse information we have. Could you please pin that? :)

As for the others, I will take parts of this post and post it in "our" forum and ask for testers.

Don't be afraid. PM me. I answer when I can. I don't bite... Well I do!

I have a thing for biting in a nice bicep but Internet has not yet made it possible to do that on distance so you are safe in that respect ;)

That's my fetish. What is yours? ;)

All the best,

Abs