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[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hollywood Cole:
THANK YOU!

You are awesome, thank you so much! I have been Googling all day and couldn't come up with much beyond Jcase's root method threads (which I already used but did me no good in overcoming this WP). I see this is a recent development, convenient!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.

Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.

Thanks for your continued support.

BR

Seth

Agilemobile.com Ltd
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
Excellent!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] daliancer:
Good news indeed! Will it utilise the video cam functionality.....?!

;-)

Well one can dream....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] timetex:
Excellent!

Can you give us a preview of the screens, or expected functionality?

Really want to see what I'm waiting for!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] darkblak:
No ... a good point and a definative reason to use it instead of Messenger.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] q-biq:
Great! Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] guttrhead:
Cool, I actually just tried to put agile on my wizard yesterday. Everything was lookin good. I signed on AIM and could recieve message, but the ones I sent never made it through. It would also disconnect when the device was in standby for a minute or so, but that was probably the fault of the rom. Use of softkeys would make this program really nice.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zohaer21:
great news...

i found that agile did work on my jasjar but the today screen plug in always gave an error..

is there any voip features??? or google talk???

thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] KinkyGolab:
im so hapey im tring not to cray :,-) i love Agil, sethmw can u add support for cam on Qtek 9000 and Qtek 9100 can u?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ng:
free?

Hi,

You were mentioning that Agile is free, but according to the agile mobile website, you have to pay for Agile messenger. So what's up with that? :?:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] scenic:
ozVGA

To: Sethmw

Will be the new version QVGA ready?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zormic:
:D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BeyondtheTech:
Not to be a stickler, but you mentioned the same "Agile rewrite" story in a few weeks and offered me to be part of a beta in a private message... which I still have, dated October 24, 2005, and you haven't responded to any of my emails or PMs since then.

While I'm glad there's finally some apparent progress, I would have hoped to be part of that development to make sure the next version that comes out isn't going to be riddled with bugs that we'd have to wait weeks at a time for updates...

IM+ seemed to have stopped at 4.04 back when I purchased it in December and I, too, have been emailing them with a bunch of bug fixes and feature requests, also without response.

Let's hope someone pulls through with a decent IM for the Pocket PC platform, finally.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] galt:
Here, here! This is the one area where windows mobile just doesn't have a really good piece of software at any price.

It's a bummer that it sounds like the promise of a revamped version of Agile hitting open beta soon might be an empty one...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
Agile Beta

The reason for the delay in the Beta is the fact that it was an entire re-write. Agile Messenger has been in development for over 3 years now. To expect us to re-write the client for WM 5.0 in 3 weeks is a DREAM.

The new client has been in development since late September and will be available for public Beta in the next couple of weeks. Sending PM's asking for it today is a waste of time, because we do not want to release the Beta until we are internaly satisfied with it as a release candidate. The purpose of the Beta is to work out bugs, not to release a version that is not ready to be used publicaly.

Everyone on this forum will recieve the Beta at the same time, which as I said will be available here in the next few weeks.

Agile Messenger for Symbian phones currently has a license fee in certain markets as we develop our billing network.

Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile will be free for the time being and will eventualy be a licensed product as well.

As I said we have a team of developers that have been working on Agile Messenger for over 3 years now, and we currently support 4 operating systems and over 40 unique devices. I like to think that we provide a product that is better then any of the other solutions out there, and we would like to continue to do that. Therefore at some point it is neccesary to charge a license fee, as unfortunately we can not support a staff of developers over an infinate period of time as a charity.

We appreciate your continued support, and intend to continue to provide a solution that is second to none.

For those of you that expect special treatment and early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release.

Thanks again, and we look forward to your feedback.

BR

Seth

Agilemobile.com Ltd.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
QVGA

In response to the question regarding QVGA, we hope to be releasing a version for WM 5.0 Smartphone devices at the same time as the version for the WM 5.0 PPC based devices.

The new version should support:

Push To Talk

Image Transfer

Emoticons

Group Management

Typing Notification

Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk

Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.

There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.

BR

Seth

Agilemobile.com Ltd.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] galt:
Will the new version of agile support HTML links and message text copy?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zormic:
Re: QVGA

Does the fact that you are posting on Universal’s forum mean that there will be a version of Agile messenger specialized for the Universal?

For instance on Nokias you have the option Send picture from new, meaning that the software is aware of the camera on the mobile. The other thing that I was always missing on my Nokia, I believe that on PPCs it is even more needed, is the FILE TRANSFER. Will you make this possible?

Thanx
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] q-biq:
Can anyone post the new version here as soon it's released. Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
AM WM5.0

Let me see if I can remember your questions:

The first builds do support:

History (export aswell)

Editing (cut & paste)

Push to Talk (so speaker and microphone API's)

Image transfer (w/o camera access, camera API's will be added in later build)

Later Builds will support (not much later, but not in early Beta):

Camera Access

File Transfer

Not sure if I missed any of the questions. Please be patient a few weeks and you will have the Beta, and your feedback will be welcome and incorporated in future releases.

We are happy that there is so much interest in the WM platform and will definately try to provide an excellent solution.

Seth
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fuf:
Re: QVGA

will you add support for jabber as well? i find it very good and like to have a single application no matter what IM persons on my contact list use. thanks, fuf.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] darkblak:
Re: AM WM5.0

Seth - will you support video?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
AM 5.0

Yes the current build supports both Google Talk and Jabber (XMPP).

As far as video is concerned, it is something that we definately will support in a future release, but it will not be included in the Beta's or initial general releases.

There has been a tremendous amount of effort put into refining and polishing the overall end user experience to make it as stable and reliable as our solution for Symbian based devices. Our previous WM version was never taken out of Beta due to the overwhelming response and road map that we took with the Symbian product. With the release of WM 5.0 and the significant growth of the WM platform, we made a decision to put significant development resources into WM.

So essentialy, what you will see in the first releases is an extremely reliable and feature rich messenger, that incorporates all of the things you would expect out of a mobile based IM solution. Once that is acomplished we intend on building upon the platform to take advantage of the bandwith and functionality of the 3G networks and the converged devices that the WM based devices are becoming.

Seth
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BeyondtheTech:
Re: Agile Beta

Seth, I hope you didn't take my message out of context. I am glad that a rewrite is in the works and that a beta will be available shortly. Of all the thousands of programs available, the lack of a decent multi- (or at least AOL-supported) IM client for the Pocket PC is frustrating to say the least. You'd think that, with Microsoft now holding the crown to the mobile platform world, the people at America Online would have gotten up off their asses and see that the AOL Mail and AIM Client hasn't been touched for years.

http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...d=2&N=96806&Ntt=aol&productId=119979&R=119979

And, take a look at this!

http://www.aol.co.uk/aim/wince/index.html

AIM for Windows CE? Who calls it CE anymore?! That's how old their software is!

I'll be happy if anything comes out at this point. As for me, I'd prefer a one-time fee rather than a subcription-based service. Thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jami1:
I would be more than interested to try out the new beta.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] snorbaard:
Sethmw:

This is most excellent news. I've been using Agile for a long time, since it appeared for my QTEK 1010, in fact, and it is certainly one of my favourite applications.

You didn't ask for suggestions, but I cannot help myself:

1. Is there any space in your roadmap to add custom emoticon support for MSN at all? There are *NO* 3rd party instant messaging applications that support custom emoticons, something that many of my contacts use.

2. Another feature which would be very useful is the addition of Avatar support. Sometimes you have so many people on your list, you forget who they are.. ;)

I (and many, many others) await the update with baited breath!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ratcom:
This is great news!!! Its got to be one of the useful programs Ive ever had on any of my windows mobile devices, I love the fact the once ive logged in to msn using agile I dont have to keep reconnecting after every phone call, auto re-login kicks ass! ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] galt:
I like that too but I hate having to click through 20 "connection error" messages after a long phone conversation. I hope the new version of Agile handles disconnect/reconnect more seamlessly.

So, is there or isn't there HTML link support in the new version of Agile? I swear, anyone who isn't aware of the usefulness of using IM to access some really helpful info-bot services (that tend to use HTML links) is missing the boat as far as mobile search... It's painful that none of the PPC multi-IM clients can display HTML links in any decent fashion. And please, don't stop at just web link support, how about displaying phone #s and email addys as links to initiate those apps from instant message? I guess the Sidekick AIM client spoiled me...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] KinkyGolab:
eney news whits day the beta is going to be relist?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Carnivor:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4876.html

saw this and thought of you lot, maybe worth a try, its free!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] GreyGlove:
How can i change user on msn using Agile. I dont see any option

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] KinkyGolab:
TIME TO RELIS IT?!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] STeWxQQ:
starting to look more and more like vaporware
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zormic:
Any news?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] q-biq:
not yet :/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] daliancer:
Are we all being patient?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] q-biq:
yeah, startin to get tired of waiting now hehe
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
errrr.. I make that almost 3 weeks... so far!

let's hope it's worth the wait and it's well polished after this wait :!:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] darkblak:
I'm hoping that've gone back to add in a video interface so that we can use the video camera within mesenger.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] daliancer:
positive thinking!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rukna:
Fixed :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] eagle 1:
Any Update on Agile for WM5?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
yes. What's up? Any problems with it?

Just give the source to Vijay, he'll make "Multichannel 3D Videoconferencing over IP" out of it...

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] darkblak:
The first time I read that I laughed out loud. The second time I read it - I thought yeah he would actually..or he'd write his own from scratch!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
:shock: don't even joke about this guys... I've been asked to write an IM client by PiTT (board member), just a small task, cross protocol, open source with a nice GUI. Man, I can barely keep my small stuff afloat right now. However, my thoughts:

1. First - full gratitude to Agile. I've never used their client (I have no friends, so no IM for me), but it's their thread, so

2. I think there are at least two open source IM clients out, ayttm and gaim. I don't see that they've been ported over yet, but who's up for giving it a go?

3. I don't think that the video cam on the Universal has been accessed through the API yet, but I believe it can be discected by reverse engineering it. There's a new 3rd party cam app out (for the Magician, yesterday). Following this through, I don't know if Microsoft Portrait is open source yet, but I've got code somewhere on low bandwidth image transmission.

Might be possible to stream video for Video+VOIP.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] kasu:
When are we getting your new deliverables ? :wink:

Cheers
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
Still working on updates to old stuff, turning it into some new stuff, and some very new stuff.

Work is so busy right now, and with Buzz turning me down for dinner dates, sigh, it's so hard to keep up with everything!

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] darkblak:
You need an IM client with video-conferencing facilities - then you'd be able to talk to buzz all the time - and we'd all have you on our IM buddy lists! 8)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
Hi vijay :o)))))

i consider myself to be your friend :o)

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
getting back to the the release of Agile Messenger... abd while we're all waiting....

here's the definition of Agile:

Overview of adj agile

The adj agile has 2 senses (first 1 from tagged texts)

1. (1) agile, nimble, quick, spry -- (moving quickly and lightly; "sleek and agile as a gymnast"; "as nimble as a deer"; "nimble fingers"; "quick of foot"; "the old dog was so spry it was halfway up the stairs before we could stop it")

2. agile, nimble -- (mentally quick; "an agile mind"; "nimble wits")

so.. nimble, quick, spry, etc etc... interesting huh?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
so dear Agile,

please give it to us quickly...

We can't wait for it anymore

:o))))

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] q-biq:
feels like the a2dp patch with agile :P
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Leigh:
is there going to be the webcam functionality in this release for the universal, simple yes or no
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
The way things are going friend, I will simply settle for a release :wink:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Bonzo:
"next week or so"..

That was over a month ago! :roll:

Too bad!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] markgamber:
Heh...yeah, maybe it's time to forget about the icing and concentrate on the cake. So how about it? Think I can have something I can use for *text messaging* sometime soon? Just plain old text messaging, that's all I ask.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
it has to be going through some SERIOUS pre-release testing... :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sethmw:
Apologies.

I apologize for the delay, the development team has been working on two different builds at the same time, one for Smartphone and one for PPC.

Please understand the heads of our development team are very concious about making sure that they don't release something (even to Beta) unless it is solid, and has been thouroughly tested on a wide range of devices.

That being said, we currently have builds that are about ready for Beta, and it is safe to say that it will be posted here within this week (fingers crossed)

We appreciate your patience.

BR

Seth
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zormic:
Re: Apologies.

Don’t appreciate it, we are not patient… :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] wamatt:
So which is better Agile or IM+?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Paladin27:
I'm looking forward to this update, Agile has always been the easiest to use IM client of the current choices. I hate the new iMove contact list, their stupid logo is bigger than the contact area!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] daliancer:
Re: Apologies.

Now I'm all for thorough robust testing of a product before market release especially one so eagerly anticipated. However, you may want to be a little more conservative with regards to estimating future beta release dates. Keep us software hungry gannet's under control instead of promising the world on a certain date and then not delivering - it just increases our frustation not to mention sours the image of your company/product!! grrr
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] markgamber:
Too many people with too little patience and a nonsense time frame, what a combination. Since Agile apparently doesn't know the 90/90 Rule nor programmer's math, here they are for the benefit of the impatient:

90/90 Rule: The first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time alloted to that project. The last 10% of the project takes the other 90% of the time.

Programmer's math: Take the time estimated for a project, double it and add one of the unit of measurement. If a programmer says it will take two weeks, you double that to four weeks and add one week. The project will actually take five weeks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
markgamber: ain't that the truth! My "some time this weekend" often turns into 3 months!!

Speaking for myself, merely getting the time to finish projects is too hard. Actual coding is a damn sight easier :wink:

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jamfitz86:
Chill guys, we'll get it soon.

Its being re-written for WM5. we are pretty lucky, also there is talk of some use of it for free.

JAmes *waiting silently*
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] daliancer:
Re: Agile Beta

not just talk jamfitz....

Dali (who is too bleedin impatient!!)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Serjnyak:
What about support of Russian language? I use mChat but it has problems with trillian =(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
Today Rrelease?

It is going to be released today?? this is the end of the week. :roll:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
I feel enlightened
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
Re: Today Rrelease?

Nope, apparently we should add another couple of weeks... by which time hopefully the rivals will release new updates... :wink:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
Uh oh... well, in my non-programming capacity yet freshly enlightened state of being, would estimate a good 2-3 weeks... so double that, and add another week or 2, pinch of salt, quick blend in the mixer, spin round the block... and hey presto... et volia... your guess is as good as any :wink:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Serjnyak:
philtech44

You see Agile did have support of displaying Russian language correctly in Trillian. I wish they preserve this function [/b]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] philtech44:
whoosh.. that went straight over your head Serjnyak... nothing personal mate... twas but a liddle jokey

:)

:oops:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Kenny Pollock:
*bump*

Any plans for this still? It's now Saturday...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
Anothe week?

any answers from the agile developing team? it is getting ridiculous
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] markgamber:
Go outside
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] belfast-biker:
Jesus Christ, release it already. Or at least lock the thread to everyone apart from the person announcing it's actual release.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Kenny Pollock:
Come on!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Mikee4fun:
I can smell Vapor :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] belfast-biker:
"Out Side"?

What is this "Out Side" you speak of? Out and Side of what?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Kenny Pollock:
Why the hell are you posting? No one asked for your advice, we're waiting for a release that was said to be here already.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
Went Outside

I went outside but didn't found the new Agile messenger.... now what?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Mikee4fun:
Burr its too cold...going back in.

lol
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] woodyparis:
Hello All

Any news from the team working on the Beta Agile Messenger for WM 5 ? :?:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lvlolvlo:
gotta smoke buddy? it's freezing outside!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] eman:
I will only go outside when I can get my IM working...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] herpi:
Standard MSN does not reconnect properly and existing Agile hangs, absolute randomly.

How is IM+?why don't I hear from people that use it?

To be said: With Agile my Jasjar can sleep nicely and keeps the contact. Skype however needs a living Jasjar. What is the technical reason for this?

Huib
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Special_K:
I just went and downloaded IM+ v 4.05 and so far it works very well. I am only using it for AIM, so I don't know about how it performs on the other services. It installed very easily, put in my username/password and I was up and running. All my buddies were there in their groups. It stays connected, I get visual and audio alerts, however I wish there was an option for vibrate. The only really big downfall is that they want $40 for the app. I'm not going to pay $40 for IM. My trial will be up soon and I hope Agile has thier new version out by then!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] herpi:
Could you try to put your device to sleep, and trigger a chat from a different system? Does it react?

Important for me because of battery consumption.

With Agile I can change the sound and thus also vibration. (settings/sounds@notifications/Tab notification/event, select Agile and then tick vibrate. It will not be silent however, but vibration works. Not possible with IM+?

Huib
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
AIM

If you just want to use AIM, here is a Free Official version and works great.

http://www.aim.com/get_aim/win_ce/latest_wince.adp

I hope the new Agile is released soon, seems like everybody is waiting for a long time
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
Yahoo Messenger

I've never tried this one but seems a good working version of Yahoo messenger.

http://www.ppc4all.com/appdetail.php?id=2704
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aguaron:
Aol Handheld

Not freeware but maybe is good to give it a try

Aol Handheld

http://www.ppc4all.com/appdetail.php?id=3149