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[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
new phone confusion

Hi all!!

A local website is offering Atrix HD MB886 and Moto G (16GB) for exactly the same price here. Both are BNIB with 7 days return policy and 2 years warranty.

So I am really confused which one to buy. If any of you have tested or bought both.. how do they compare and which one would you recommend?

For me.

Moto G +ve's:

NEW!

16GB internal mem

KK 4.4.2 out of box

great battery

IPS LCD

changeable covers

FM radio

USB host

GLONASS

Moto G -ve's:

No 4G (LTE)

only 5MP cam

battery is fixed

NO SD card

AHD +ve's:

4G LTE (future proof) - even though we don't have this yet but the contracts are sold and will get 4G rolling out next year in Pakistan

8MP cam

FHD video recording

HDMI

SD card (again.. future proof)

replaceable batt (so can get a bigger one)

AHD -ve's:

No GLONASS

TFT LCD (not IPS)

smaller batt

no FM radio (can i use an app like spirit FM?)

no USB host??? (does it have this?)

The place where I'm really really confused is the CPU/GPU.

How does MSM8960 (dual core Krait) stack up against the quad core MSM8226????

How much of a difference is there between Adreno 305 and Adreno 225?? (i'm a bit of a mobile gamer :D)

Those of you who have experience with these. How do they compare?? I heard people who got Moto G said they felt its faster than AHD ever performed. But I guess that could be down to stock Android on Moto G outperforming MotoBlur... or is the hardware on Moto G really better??

Which has the better and more durable hardware?

Many thanks in advance... Cheers!!

P.s. I have an HTC Desire Z with 4.4.2 at the moment.. so any of these will be a step up for me.. but I want the best of these as they fall exactly within my budget.
[Motorola Atrix HD] swapnil0545:
Atrix HD Screen is one of the best I have ever seen.

I can play games without lag on atrix HD.

What do you mean by GLONASS?

Yes I miss FM Radio.

We have hdmi along with usb.

Best part is the build quality. I have dropped it a hundred times but still its functional, If it would have been a samsung then I might have lost many phones till day.
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
Thanks for the fast reply...

GLONASS is Russia's satellite nav system like GPS. Having GLONASS especially in EU and Asia is a huge advantage as it's more accurate and Moto G has both so combined you get pin-point accuracy.

Glad to read about the build quality.

Still.. how does it stack up against Moto G's CPU/GPU??

4G is not a biggie for me but its better to have it than not. Also 16GB is probably okay for me as I have 8GB now but you never know)))

You said it has USB.. does it have USB hosting? (the feature where you can connect other USB devices to the phone to transfer data directly like using pen drive with your computer)

Thanks again!! :)

EDIT: Ok... so I just read that you can make Atrix a USB host using a software fix and it does support GLONASS.. also read (on qualcomm's site) that Adreno 305 offer's upto 50% faster graphics than Adreno 220 (which I'm guessing is closer to Adreno 225 on Moto G).. so as a gamer I'm also decided on AHD.. plus there are rumours of AHD getting ota KK 4.4.2 soon... just need confirmation of how the dual core CPU performs vs Moto G's quad core... and I'll just get one :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] jaweinre:
I have usb OTG (or host) out of the box with cyanogenmod 11, at least i've tried a wireless keyboard and mice. Haven't tried it with stock roms.

The HDMI is pretty nice too 1280x720, connect to your tv, plug some controller via USB OTG and you got mobile gaming rig lol. 16GB (with maybe 12 available to user?) i find that to be not quite enough at all, specially for me that i use google play music and cache my music on the external sd.

Check out the battery mod thread, super easy not too expensive and you'll get very nice battery life (2+ days on with moderate usage and no battery eating ****ty apps).

AHD SHOULD be getting official KK according to "official" sources, tho not too soon maybe.

Oh and the AHD camera is crap tho, only way to get decent pics is plain daylight or very bright ilumination during the night.

Shouldn't there be cheaper used AHDs out there by now? Could probably get a cheap used AHD in good condition, put CM11 on it, do the battery mod and boom!
[Motorola Atrix HD] swapnil0545:
Where can I find a link for Glonass apk?
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
I don't think you need an apk to turn it on.. just look in settings...

http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/glonass/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_smartphones_using_GLONASS_Navigation#Motorola

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gB9pXInwh3k

I think you can get an app to test the A-GPS and GLONASS performance...

There are a few options

This app: http://droid-games.com/en/Motorola_ATRIX_HD/android_programs/navigation/88-gps-test-plus-121.html

Or maybe this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cochibo.gpsstatus

Hope this helps! :highfive:

---------- Post added at 10:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

I'm more or less set on Atrix HD over Moto G.. I read several reviews and benchmark/test reports.. in most of mobile reviews Moto G is rated higher than AHD.. but in benchmarks the story is opposite.. Moto G's MSM8226 is slower than AHD's MSM8960 (notebookcheck.net).. also Adreno 225 on AHD is better and faster than Moto G's Adreno 305 (notebookcheck and wikipedia).. I wonder why Moto G is rated better than? Price, battery and stock 4.4.2??

You said the cam is cr**? its not a biggie for me personally as I use the came occasionally but maybe I'll have to download a cam app to see if it improves the quality.. I think most of the features in Moto G's cam like touch focus, hdr and panorama are due to stock kitkat.. I think they can be easily added.. but I could be wrong
[Motorola Atrix HD] jaweinre:
I've tried focal, google camera, other razr cameras, you name it. The camera hardware is just not so good, and prety bad off-stock.
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
Placed an order for AHD on ebay yesterday... hopefully I'll have it soon :victory:

I read Moto G's cam is even worse but maybe it was a personal opinion but some say so.... also there are a lot of 8MP cams which are even worse like on Lumia's.. plus I have a 5MP cam on my HTC DZ right now so I think 8MP will be a step up either way.. I won't get a EB40 for the time being.. will see if EB20 is enough for how I use the phone.. If I feel the need.. I'll get the EB40..

Thanks everyone...
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
So which rom do you recommend for the best battery life with eb20 stock phone battery? Sorry for bumping up an old thread
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
Everyone runs different apps and services so it's hard to tell without testing yourself. IMO, you should try a "slim" ROM. One that doesn't have a ton of features and advertises being light on resources. Also avoid using a custom kernel to overclock your processor (duh).

The next option you should consider the eb40 battery upgrade so you won't have to worry about your battery as much. I swapped mine as soon as I bought this phone and I've been very happy with the battery life (it should have been standard with this phone). Happy flashing![emoji4]
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
Thanks for ur reply. And dude, where I come from, if I put in couple of more bucks into this phone by buying another battery and then taking into account all the money I spent on this device which includes the price of the phone itself, I could easily get a nexus 4 or LG optimus G in that whole price. So I just bought this phone for time pass. I'll upgrade sooner so I want to have short and quality time with this device.
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
Use holoblur (jb rom) for the best battery life. Load the pure performance x on it and it should be running much smoother.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
Thanks, but its not compatible with Philz recovery. I tried to flash it but it gives status 7 error.
[Motorola Atrix HD] bmatney:
Uncheck the option about allowing old update binary. Then try again. I just flashed it and am posting from it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
Thanks, that worked. :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
OK so an update I finally got my AHD a while back and after unlocking, rooting and all the usual stuff I am shocked to see that there is NO way I can transfer app data to SD card... :eek:

My 4 years old HTC Desire Z gave me that option natively with ANY AND ALL ROM's I used... even the ones based on JB and KK.. I am now using the official CM 10.1.3 ROM on my AHD.. I used the Andromadus nightly build based on the same CM 10.1.3 and while that nightly supported moving app data to SD through settings->apps.. the official CM10.1.3 on AHD does not... why???

Is there a ROM that supports this natively so I can install as many apps as I want without worrying about this serious limitation.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I'd give you Google's number so you can complain to them about making the move to discontinue that feature, since they are the ones who run the android OS, if I had it
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
Found 2 tools that work around it :cyclops: - both these apps fake the OS into thinking the app data resides on internal SD while infact it is on external SD card.

Both need root.

1) DirectoryBind - Didn't work on JB.. working on KK like a charm.

2) FolderMount - Worked on JB for me.. was pretty simple to use as it shows you a list of installed apps and you select from that and then a location on your SD card where you want data to be.

For DirectoryBind see this thread on instructions how to use. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1944053&page=3

I finally have more than 3 games installed (big ones) coz I was able to save their obb data to my external SD like I wanted. :good:
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
Try links2sd. Works great
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cagkanm:
Hey guys, I've recently received my HTC international. It came with 4.2 but I updated it to 4.3. I've unlocked the bootloader and do have TWRP as recovery. Now I'm trying to root my phone and also s-ff but I run into a problem because my hboot is version 1.55.

I've tried various of different methods to root my One, they all complete successfully, get a shortcut for supersu still not rooted.

Can anyone help rooting One with hboot 1.55?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guich:
You only have to flash this...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cagkanm:
Just tried. I am getting the same message I did before in SuperSU... "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!! If you just upgraded to Android 4.3, you need to manually re-root - consult the relevant forums for your device."

Just to clarify, this device was not rooted before 4.3. It's a new device. I took it out the box, plugged it into my pc, UPDATED to 4.3 (which updated hboot to 1.55) and then I started looking for ways to root. Unlocking the bootloader worked perfectly but cannot root :/
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guich:
Are you running stock rom?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cagkanm:
Yes. I am running the official 4.3 update. Maybe I should have mentioned this before, my aim is to get the Google Play edition, 4.4 on this device. As far as I know, I need to be rooted, s-ff for this.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cagkanm:
Ain't there another way of doing this? Eg, flashing Android Revolution 40.0? what would happen if I tried flashing this on non rooted device? is there a way it would root the device?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cagkanm:
I was able to root my device using openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-m7 as recovery. SuperSU 1.80
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eortizr:
Install Android Revolution HD 31.6 then use rumrunner to s-off. That's what worked for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Aberkoke:
Hello. I have a problem with my flo nexus 7 2013. Today, while the nexus 7 was connected to my Samsung Galaxy S3 over mobile ap, gallery from nexus was syncing all the time and used all the data available for all the month (more than 300 mb). Previously, that wifi connection was selected as mobile hotspot.

I think is a wrong behaviour from the gallery and sync service. I think it should be blocked because it is connected to a mobile hotspot. What do you think?

I have official kitkat KRT16S rom. Thanks

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Aberkoke:
Up

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 4
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payam.1995:
Okay so let me start with my first post! last month i bought a qmobile a700 and on the second day got CWMR on it and messed it up bigtime by installing some random custom rom. Since then i've been trying to get my qmobile back to life. since a700 ain't a popular model i couldn't find much help from the internet so i decided to start working on it myself from scratch...

so after almost more than a month i have finally managed to get almost everything running.. the list of stuff working really great are

rear camera perfect :cool:

wifi perfect,

bluetooth perfect,

nexus 4 boot logo,

boots really fast!! (when i say really fast i mean it) (cuz i added some tweaks in build.prop)

battery will obviously be good...

stock 4.4 kitkat UI by default

gps works fine

all the sensors are working too,

cwm recovery preinstalled

and way many more stuff.. no time to mention them here...

and the stuff which don't really work that great are

the front camera sucks bigtime, worse than 1950s cameras

both sim cards aren't detected. (the baseband problem thingy, because i never backed up my stock rom's modem.img)

playstore gets worms sometimes.

i want to release this ROM ASAP because i know many people must be waiting for this, i have a little request from some owners of a700. i need the stock a700 rom so i can finish fixing this rom once and for all. i'm really tired and frustrated now, don't wanna spend more time on this. someone just extract and upload their stock rom and i'll upload this custom one in less than a weeks time after i get the stock rom. here are the instructions to extract your stock rom... (for noobs)

download the first file attached at the end of this post.. it is to root your android device (don't worry, ain't nothing gonna happen here)

rooting your android can't get easier than this, enable 'USB debugging' in 'developer options' in 'settings'.

connect your phone to the computer.

run that file, press the "root" button and you'll be done within few minutes.

then goto play store and download an app called 'mobileuncle tools'

after downloading that open it and press 'authorize' when asked for root permission...

then download the second post at the end of this post... (its cwmr)

copy that file to the SD card of your phone.

run mobileuncle tools app on your phone, then goto 'recovery update' section and press on 'recovery.img'

press ok and then ok again, after the okays you'll be in the phones recovery (clockwork mod)

use volume + and volume - keys to scroll up and down and use the power button for selection..

scroll down and select 'backup' option. it should successfully backup (but incase it didn't and it gave errors like couldn't mount /data /system etc, backup your contacts and important stuff, then go into the recovery again and select 'wipe/factory restore' option.. then perform a backup...)

zip the backed up folder (in sdcard/clockworkmod/backup...) and upload it somewhere and send the link to me or upload it here...

that's all

PM me if you have any question...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sanwalah:
you can easily get all those files you need from the webste

gionee.co.in

as a700 is gionee gpad g2

hope it helps,

and yes if you still need a700's backup, i will provide you whenever i have one

because currently i m using gionees firmware as i have ruined mine qmobiles firmware

regards
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] payam.1995:
but probably your sim doesn't work right? your phone does not recognize your sim cards if i'm not wrong?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farigee:
u need a nandroid backup
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sanwalah:
Both Sims work fine

I have tested it,

both sims work fine for gione gpad 2 firmware not for n1 primo (it has some wrong imei issue)

Regards,
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nibs.ahmed:
Walton Primo N1 is also a clone of A700 and Gionee Gpad G2. i have Primo N1 and have tested Gpad G2's Stock on my phone. works without a problem but i like N1's Stock more than Gpad g2. you can try as well.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sanwalah:
No Update

Dear,

Is there any update to this rom?

hope you have made it better :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharybabary1:
q mobile a700 and gionee gpad g2 stock rom

gionee gpad g2 launched a original rom so can any body tell is it work fine on q mobile a 700

GIONEE Gpad G2 stock rom finally rooted!!!!!

This rom is for walton Primo N1 or GIONEE Gpad G2.

ROM contains stock Gionee Gpad G2 firmware

Bloatwares Removed

DEODEXED ROM

Now the Flip COVER GIONEE GAVE us works and For walton users this firmware contains new themes.THIS ROM IS PRE-ROOTED.

Now How to install:

1 Go to recovery mode (You need to have TWRP or CWM installed i use TWRP and the you can find it here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2380470)

2 Go to wipe option first swipe to factory reset then go to advanced wipe and select system and swipe to wipe

3 Go to install and select the zip file from your storage

4 Then Click on clear dalvik cache

Now reeboot and enjoy the stock GIONEE rom rooted.

NOTE:I am not responsible if anything happens

also TWRP is made by Jahid Khan and i also thank Him for helping me create this ROM and here is the link

http://d-h.st/4NE — with Jahid Khan and 2 others
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shahdil:
backup

Backup of qmobile a700
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sanwalah:
upload ROM please

can you pleae upload your aosp ported rom?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mave_3:
Hi guys i have the Qmobile noir a700 as well...i have updated the firmware to Gionee G2...but not stuck on bootloop....

i have the backup of my noir a700 but its doesnt restore..

any help guys would be appreciated???
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NafeesKhabir:
Check this forum for MIUI V5 4.2.1 rom for GIOnee Gpad G2/ Qmobile Noir a700
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmans_net:
A20 Bricked

Hi guys anyone have cwm backup of a20 ??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john123123:
sir how can i find qmobile a700 real rom of qmobile i have installed other rom but doesnt work
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] E66666666:
Hello people!

Since I had this Galaxy Nexus I always clean flashed my ROM whenever even a major version (4.1 -> 4.2) update was done. Dirty flashed Nightlies. When I clean flashed, I wiped everything except /sdcard/ and everything went fine. However, lately some AOKP things started giving trouble so I restored, wiped and flashed a lot of times. Now this is what happened:

Flash kernel, AOKP 4.3 stopped booting.

Restore from backup, AOKP 4.3 still not booting.

Forget to wipe, install XP + PA 4.4 Gapps (it's a 4.4 CM based ROM), boot. Everything works! All my apps work, even SuperUser works, which normally asks for permissions after a new flash.

Don't like XP, install CM11 + PA 4.4 Gapps. It works fine!

So what's the matter with no dirty flashing? I just flashed a 4.4 ROM over a 4.3 ROM based on completely different things and it still works great, then I flashed another ROM on top of that and no issues have occurred yet. All works fine - E-mail accounts, Google accounts, YouTube, even my alarms are still kept in one place. The custom toggles I set in XP still are there and everything is just dandy.

Do you guys always clean flash, or did you also decide to say "who gives a hell, let's go dirty"? Did any dirty flashing result in bad things for you?

tl;dr

Why exactly is dirty flashing bad? I dirty flashed AOKP 4.3.1 -> CM11 (4.4) and all's fine.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
This is because roms dont always format the proper partitions and can cause corruption and data loss. This can also lead to ghost issues. I personally set my script to clean flash my roms. This way I dont have to do it manually and when I was releasing it prevented ghost issues and the normal questions about clean or dirty flashing.
[Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RightClick:
good evening,

I need an urgent advice ..

after the last flash cyano (10.2 rc1) i wanted to go back to the stock version I9195XXUAMJ1_I9195WINAMJ1 og my phone mini S4.

I used Odin 3.07 and everything was ok ....

But when the phone restarts, it remains stationary on "samsung" and does not go forward. Can I just go to "dowload mode" and not in recovery ...

how can I do? I ask for help

:crying:

thank you very much

last update i can go in "Recovery mod"...what can i do ?

tahnk you !!
[Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radicspeter:
Try to flash arco cwm root kernel to have a recorvery mod. Then wipe everything and then try Odin again.

I recommend this 3 part rom with repartion (+ pit file )

http://android-forum.hu/viewtopic.php?t=1528

Tapatalk-kal küldve az én GT-I9195-el
[Galaxy S 4 Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RightClick:
ok thank you very much !
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] insaneshan3:
Bought the phone from att recently, I haven't rooted it or anything. I know one of them trips the knox counter and theres a safe way for doing it without tripping it. I checked the unknown sources and installed some apps from .apk files. Only other thing i can think of is my memory card has files from when I had my note 2& s4. This only happened today ( Yesterday for the first time my phone died completely out of battery). Any solutions/ suggestions would be very appreciated.

Edit: Just factory reset my phone and still no dice.

Edit2: took out memory card and reset device again, worked this time.

Please close this thread mods when you get a chance.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stryke_the_Orc:
Thread Closed at OP's request.

I have also edited the Title to reflect that this issue is solved.

Thank you.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloud628:
So today I received the 4.4 KitKat OTA on my unlocked HTC one and was wondering if it possible to switch run time to ART? Is this developer option available on the Android 4.4 Sense 5.5 Unlocked HTC One?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guich:
The option is hide :)

It's a decision by htc...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KidCarter93:
As mentioned by Guich above, HTC haven't made the option visible.

There's a mod which will enable it here but, judging by the comments in there, it doesn't work yet. I definitely suggest keeping an eye on that thread as I doubt it will take long before it's working correctly :)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danw20:
Do you have the 801n?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cloud628:
I believe its an 801n. Not exactly sure how to check,......I tried looked all over the sticker that has the IMEI number but cannot find :(
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danw20:
Ah. The n is the European model i believe, has 4g support and stuff
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Goddi:
Dear All,

I'm pretty new to this forum and to the Wizard as well.

I'm using Navigon Navigator 5.2 on my T-Mobile Vario which works quite well. I do have one issue, well more an incovenience, while using the headset.

When Navigon is active and I accept a call with my bluetooth headset all system sounds, including Paula2 the nice navi lady, is muted. The phone call itself is diverted to the headset.

That make sense as I don't want to have Paula2 on my headset but I would like to have her on the speaker.

Is there any way to have phone calls served by the headset and system sounds, including program sounds, played on the speaker?

Any help is appreciated.

Cheers,

Thorsten
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vnation:
As I seen every time new updates only for nexus or moto x or etc bt no any update or no any new custom for T988.why developers stopped their developing for T989 :confused: