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[AT&T LG G2] born_fisherman:
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.

When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.

I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.

Let's see what today brings for battery life!
[AT&T LG G2] LucariX:
I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room :P

So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!
[AT&T LG G2] born_fisherman:
I do like the logic behind Lux and I think it works great for adjusting the levels, but like you said, it is just too dark. Perhaps it needs some playing around with the settings.. But I am happy with LG 60% auto level
[AT&T LG G2] born_fisherman:
So here are my stats for the end of the day..just over 2 hours screen time and about 45min voice calls. Display brightness 60% auto, Wi-Fi and data on all day. Still have gsam and lux removed!

Not too shabby if you ask me!
[AT&T LG G2] hydeah:
This is amazing.

Do you have any e-mail accounts or any other active notifications going on?

After I posted my super battery life recently I noticed a decline, I am using USA Today, stock Weather widget, tapatalk, touchdown (active sync push), 4 email accounts on stock email (all push), woot check, droid of the day app, and accuweather notification bar temp indicator.

I wonder if any one of these is affecting battery, they don't really show up on my battery usage list, so it's hard to tell what affected my battery performance. Could it be the charger? I am using Blackberry 1.8A charger, do you all use stock charger?

Did anyone post a link of apps that are safe to remove/disable from stock AT&T LG G2?

---------- Post added 2nd December 2013 at 12:18 AM ---------- Previous post was 1st December 2013 at 11:48 PM ----------

OK,

I checked Android System is eating up my memory. It is showing 64% and I barely used the device during last 3 hours.

How is this possible?

It shows as Android System but there are a lot of packages included, is there any app I can use to break down the battery usage by package? CIQ is disabled, btw.
[AT&T LG G2] born_fisherman:
I have 1 gmail account, naturally and as far as notifications, just text really. I don't use Facebook on the regular, so I went into the fb app and turned off notifications. I have the accuweather widget refresh every few hours, and ebay selling frequent so notifications for eBay are on.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Comparing battery usage between users isn't a good way to start off, so I just speak out on my own experience.

During 3 days after I got the L2 (just got it on black Fri), the phone was fresh with minimum apps run, the battery was fantastic, just like "hydeah" has. Beautiful, absolutely great, I love it. But then when I started set it up the way I want plus installing many apps that I normally use, battery drops down dramatically, just like what the OP posted. Now, I'm kind of disappointed. I disappointed based on the first 3 days and now, I disappointed based on my own comparison between my 2-year-old SGS2 and this G2.

But again, I don't blame the phone just yet, I blame myself for the way I set up.

It's strange that I feel like the more I set up to increase battery life, the worse I got.

+ ALL vibration off

+ Brightness set to 50% and Auto

+ LED notification OFF

+ bluetooth off

+ wifi on all the time

+ uninstall all AT&T bloat

+ turn off a bunch of services

+ many many more

Again, many apps but the one I highly suspect is the AVG AntiVirus with Phone Tracking registered and enable. Also Tomtom but rarely use.

Personal observation, when I put my phone down, it was 78% left, screen off, not touching it until 30' later, tap on the phone, 71% left. So that 7% drain without me using.

Update: At 4:40pm, it has only 37% left. Only a few short phone calls for a day. Crap.

Update: here's mine. It just drops a few more %. Even though it said 9h+ on usage, the fact is I am not even touching the phone except making those short calls
[AT&T LG G2] LucariX:
I just was coming back to this thread to post my (wonderful) results....and then I see this. I really wish I could tell you what to do to help...I'd suggest using GSam or something to figure if you got something of a rogue app killing your battery. That much of a decrease in time really sounds like it...too dramatic.

But now I'm getting the battery life I should be getting.

With all the suggestions of earlier...Maps thing along with removing GSam...I have absolutely wonderful battery life. I should have taken a picture when I got home from school but...I had 91% at the end of school (6 hours, out at 3) and I spent the 30 minute bus ride listening to music through Google Play Music, using messenger and texting people, even browsing the web. I get home with about 85% percent.

I get home and then just keep constantly using the phone...until now. So here are the results. If I wasn't using it constantly (running it down to critical so can get the most out of charge) I could totally get a second days worth of use out of this one charge but I think I'm good.

Overall, a normal day of usage at school, where I listen to music, browse the web a bit, also texting people. Brightness at 30% Auto as that fits my needs, data on all day (through EDGE) getting email every hour, Facebook etc. Simply wonderful today. I'll update tomorrow to compare etc. if I get similar usage time.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Good to hear that you get your battery life back to what it should be, OP.

Mine getting worse, definitely something going on in the background. Last night when I put my L2 down, it's 84%, over night, 8 hrs, it's 37% at 8am in the morning. :(

Anyway, you said installing GSam to find out the rogue app? then removing it after all?
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Anyway, after install GSam Battery Monitor this morning, then let it run calculating, do nothing else, suddenly I have much better result. Hmmm, that's strange.
[AT&T LG G2] hydeah:
I turned off my phone last night, fully charged, woke up and did not disable anything, CarrierIQ is still running, all my notifications, etc, wifi was on at home, and now it is on at work, I listened to some tuneIn, bunch of notifications, tapatalk, usa today, emails, exchange, touchdown, etc full load but mostly on stand by, and now I am getting a crazy reading (Gsam is running as well but I don't use that for monitoring now)

Here are my earlier readings, yesterday when Carrier IQ was off.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
So, you let Carrier IQ running on your phone and got better battery life.

Woww, I'm surprise. I thought Carrier IQ (besides the spying thing) is source of battery drain.
[AT&T LG G2] hydeah:
I don't think it was the main reason, but j wanted to illustrate that it did not make a big difference in battery life when it was running.

Sent from my LG-D800
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
So after a few more days, battery life is dropping like parachute. Now even with GSAM, it doesn't help.

Wakelock Detector and BBS indicated NIpWakeLock/NIpLocatorWakeLock is culprit. I then turned off the wifi/mobile network location as well as Google location access, no more wakelocks. Is my battery back to good? NO, it drained from 60% to 12% overnite, meaning I didn't even touch it, meaning screen was never on. Yeah, 48% drop overnite. I guess I have to factory reset it soon.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
Simple change caused dramatic improvement in standby time?

OK, I've been researching battery usage after reading that it's not good to leave lithium based batteries on a charger with the device powered on. I started charging it to 100% at night, and kept finding it at 50 - 60 percent in the morning (I turn off CarrierIQ). It looked like Google services might be causing a drain, so I did away with a bunch of them, disabled Google Now, etc, but it didn't help much.

So I bought Android Tuner, and it helped me find one big battery hog: LGE Gravity Sensor. I couldn't find out much about exactly what it did, but it did it during a time when the phone was on standby and not moving.

So, I tried disabling double-tap last night, and this morning it was still at 100%. In fact, over 12 hours later, after some playing around using the screen, and playing music for 45 minutes during a walk, it's only down to 95%. Now, about 14 hours later, the built-in battery app says the expected time to use is over 199 hours.

I will try alternating nights with double-tap on and off for a few days to confirm that it's not some unrelated fix that happened last night. But it might be worth a try for anyone with this problem.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Good info, marty.

I might give it a try too
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
LGE Gravity Sensor hogging battery

That would be very helpful. I'd love to get some more info from others, so I can figure out whether my phone is defective, or whether this is normal but most people keep their phones on chargers when idle (not a good idea unless the phone is turned off), and have not noticed such a high drain on standby. Maybe 5% per hour isn't noticible during the day.

Last night, I enabled the double-tap, making no other changes, and again it used up 40% overnight. LGE Gravity Sensor was the major battery hog.
[AT&T LG G2] EniGmA1987:
Obviously there are a lot of people doing it all wrong in this thread. here is my phone on stock firmware with auto-brightness on the whole time:

And CM10.2 battery life, again with auto brightness:

:p
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
Obviously?

Obviously? I don't think so. Come on, do you really believe that? How are we "doing it all wrong?" I don't have a lot of apps running, I'm leaving my phone totally idle on my dresser all night, using 40% battery overnight; how can I be "doing it all wrong?"

As someone who has done a ****load of electronic repair of all types during my life, one of the lamest excuses ever heard is always "Well it works on my system." I learned early on how meaningless that is. When I was learning C programming on early IBM PCs, I wrote a program that I was proud of at the time. During a job interview, the head programmer installed it on his computer, and it did not work at all. I didn't realize at the time that different video systems used different memory layouts. Fortunately for me, he did. But it taught me that when something works on my system, it doesn't mean that everyone else is crazy because it doesn't work on theirs.

Do you have AT&T? I don't see the logo, although you said it was stock ROM. Each carrier's phone is different, as you probably know.

Trivializing other's problems does not really lead to solutions, only hard feelings.
[AT&T LG G2] Steamer86:
LG MLT and CIQ are very inconsistent to read drains. One day will chew 40%, the next day out will be dormant and do nothing. Doubletap does indeed eat a little battery, but that is just crazy. Mine doesn't even get close to 1% use in 8 hours. I'm on stock Verizon. GPS and Wi-Fi always on(keep wifi on during sleep always and optimization off). No CIQ, LG MLT disabled, location reporting off and search and services installed as user app (reporting alone disabled wasn't quite enough[further reduced]). All bloat removed, slide aside disabled, voicemate disabled, and some a couple other things I just didn't use. Games are greenified along with Facebook. Facebook is a killer, rather manual check than kill my battery. Most social apps destroy it. I see very minimal loss with no use. Charging logic in phones now a days is very smart, no need to do that or really worry. Discharge, charge, leave it on and charge overnight, whatever, it will not make much difference. By the time does, you'll have a new phone. The impact that will have on degradation is very minimal. Leaving the phone in heat, in the sun, ect, will be much more detrimental. Btw, a constant wifi signal instead of 4g data, will eat less battery. Seems like something is keeping your device awake. Nip did it to me before I changed reporting and reinstalled the services and search as user. Maybe calibrating motion sensor could fix gravity thing? Never heard of that one yet. Try turning the phone of overnight under 95%. Remember were it's at and if it losses more than 2% (being liberal) your battery and/or phone is leaking voltage and bad.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
I've been turning of CIQ for a while because I heard it was a problem. I see LG MLT as registering, but fairly low in usage; LGE Gravity Sensor on mine is at least 10 times the usage of that.

I don't know that double-tap itself is my problem, but when I disable it, I no longer see LGE Gravity Sensor using much resources. I'm trying to find out more, but so far, it seems like either nobody really understands what I'm even talking about, or they don't care.

I'll try a simpler question since you seem to know what packages are using... Do you have a tool to see how much each package in, say, Android System, is using? If so, do you see LGE Gravity Sensor as being significant?

I'm using Android Tuner to see all the statistics, which is what led me to this discovery. Eventually, I'll have more information, but it would help if a few others helped, instead of giving their theories about what's happening while ignoring the actual data I'm asking about.
[AT&T LG G2] Steamer86:
[MENTION=5417388]martyfried[/MENTION] The only impact disabling them both will do is more battery, more RAM, and less polling of all sensors and aspects of device (LG MLT is authorized for EVERYTHING) They are otherwise useless (to you) data miners. Never have seen the wakelock issue on my device. LGE gravity is the accelerometer/motion sensor, side tap, ect. Example, tilting device to move icons if enabled on home screen. Why I suggested resetting motion calibration. Its located in gestures. Doubletap is completely separate. Works off touch sensor and proximity for pocket lock. There is no call to accelerometer from it. BBS(BetterBatteryStats[XDA edition on forums somewhere] can distinguish what part of the package is waking in kernel and partial wakelocks, ect. Enable the root features in advance setup. You may have to do some manual internet searching to pinpoint exactly what some services do or relate to. It is very odd your device is doing that sleeping and not moving. Something is corrupt, be it an app, config, or tuner just giving bad readings, or the sensor is bad. Try BBS to search the wakelocks and really pinpoint. Could be as simple as corrupt Doubletap apk / software. Doubletap is baked in our stock kernel, uses apk for touch responses like blank spot and lockscreen. If your findings are the same with Doubletap after a few test, I would only have to assume as much. Have you noticed any spazy touch issues? Some have this problem with screen and phantom touches/wakes and battery drain due to software fault. I have not seen it myself, but there is a big thread on it. I understand what you are talking about, just trying to help you pinpoint the problem bud.

Also, ignore that guy. Those pictures are mainly from 100%. This battery lasts a long time on the first 1% and dies fast the last five. Bad LG calibration.

Examples of BBS and today's drain for me w/screen time:
[AT&T LG G2] EniGmA1987:
lol. You would think someone from the west coast would be better at detecting sarcasm in posts. Anyway, troll complete :laugh:

If I get some time soon maybe Ill try and help you out some more with your drain problem

I have seen a lot of people say that there is CIQ built into the stock ATT kernel so you cannot disable it entirely unless you move to another ROM. Perhaps by disabling CIQ in the ROM side you are causing battery drain because the kernel gets stuck on some parts when it cant find the services it wants and then stays on draining battery for a long time. Also the stock messaging app calls up CIQ when you send a message, and the stock keyboard calls up CIQ when it opens too. Might want to avoid using those and try out alternatives from the play store and see if battery drain improves.
[AT&T LG G2] gold3ndrag0n:
It's probably something to do with D80010o. Battery drains like crazy when the phone is updated to that firmware and "Android System" now takes up a chunk of our battery. Mine isn't so bad when the screen is off, but when it's on you can literally see the % drop. 2 G2s now I've seen that as soon as D80010o gets installed battery life takes a big hit. My second G2 that had the update installed was against my will, I was sleeping when the phone automatically updated. I woke up and the found told me it just updated. I don't get how AT&T can just shove updates like that down our throats. With my Sammies I could choose to install or not. I'd say look for a thread with the stock image and flash it back to stock D80010d. I'm actually seriously considering that myself. Funny thing is I haven't even rooted the phone.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
Thanks; for the record, I'm not disabling anything except the double-tap under gestures. I'm not even rooted on this phone, so I'm not disabling anything that doesn't have a built-in UI.

But I plan to test tonight with a full reset, everything enabled. I'm trying not to make any assumptions yet, and so I just try one change at a time.

---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:09 PM ----------

Well, I live on the west coast, but I grew up in Alabama, so that might explain it. :)

Sorry, I just never like the "blame the victim" type of posts. It's usually something I expect from various fanboys that can't handle a problem with "their platform."

Help is appreciated, but I don't have enough data to know for sure if I have a real problem, or if it's something that was just happening for a short time. I just want to find out before it's too late to possibly swap out my phone.
[AT&T LG G2] Steamer86:
Ahhh, well that's even more odd with no major system changes. Hope it works for you.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
Now I don't know what the deal is

I probably should wait and do more tests before involving others, I guess. I do still have a couple of months that I can easily exchange the phone at Costco if I decide it's defective.

Anyway... Last night, before going to bed, I restarted my phone and left everything stock - Carrier IQ, double-tap, everything except the GPS (I'll try that tonight). Now, about 10 hours later with light usage, it's at 93%. the LGE Gravity Sensor is still the biggest hog, but for some reason it only used 2.1% - most of the usage of Android System, Still, I can live with it if it stays like that.

So, now I have no idea what might be happening. I could understand if something like Google services intermittantly used a lot of CPU, but this gravity sensor should be constant when in standby, I would think.
[AT&T LG G2] rohan611:
Are people with battery issues leaving a Google Now widget either on their lockscreen or homescreen by any chance? I've found that removing that greatly improved my battery since it was checking location every time i turned on the display
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
[MENTION=258766]enigma[/MENTION],

Your screenshots are too good to be true but I believe you. It is so great and I'm happy for you to have that.

Mine, not that sweet, some days, it's awesome, some days, it's totally crap. Which one is actually the culprit? I don't know, BBS doesn't help much except listing NIpWakeLock/NIpCollectorWakeLock on the top of the list regardless whether I have great or crappy battery life, and the total minutes and the # of triggers don't make them as culprits though.

Yesterday, after turn off knock-on/off feature along with many others, it's 3% drop over 8-hr overnite. I guess tomorrow might not be that good.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
I've never even seen those, or not taking enough battery to register. It's frustrating when things are not consistent. Tonight, I'll try it with GPS and everything else on and see what happens.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
Update: As I mentioned, I was going to try it with the GPS and everything else on. Well, about the time I turned on the GPS, my G2 went nuts, with something using so much CPU it would barely respond to anything. Even a few restarts, twice into safe mode, it still had problems, although safe mode was better.

So, I finally did a full factory reset, and now, everything seems to be working well, like I would hope. The battery is doing fine, even with all the usual culprits enabled - but not Google Now or even auto synch, so far.

Since I have not rooted the phone yet, I don't know what I could have done to cause this; it's possible my phone has a problem, and if it happens again, I will return it.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Don't have too high hope and be prepared.

I was in the same situation, battery life was so bad that I did the factory reset, after that, battery life was so great (with everything turned ON) but it only last on one charge as a few days later, battery went nut again.
[AT&T LG G2] martyfried:
So optimistic!

Thanks for the optimism. :)

I'm not going to assume it's good or bad. I know from many, many years of experience with both software and hardware that either one can cause problems, and that no software is perfect 100% of the time, especially software written by manufacturers. So, sometimes a reboot is needed, or deleting configuration files that get corrupt, etc. i don't really expect to do factory resets, but even that may help sometimes... thus the need for backups.

That said, my battery actually seems to be getting better. This morning, with everything enabled except some of the synchs, I still had 100%. I charge the phone and then remove it as soon as I can, never leaving it on the charger when fully charged. It may help.

As for your problem, you didn't mention what was using the battery so much, so it's not really a lot of help.
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
Here's mine.

Very light use, about 4hrs screen time, 3hrs talk time with virtually everything OFF or I can possibly turn off except Wifi/4G on all the time.

Close to 3 days total time.
[AT&T LG G2] hydeah:
I see no major problems with battery life on G2. I think certain things are being blown out of proportion especially when people use their phones and have apps running.

Sent from my LG-D800
[AT&T LG G2] votinh:
I don't agree with this.

Can't blame end-users for letting Location Access ON all the time or force them to turn Knock On/Off feature off in order to get great battery life.

If they install rogue apps that keep constantly running then it's their fault, but not those settings by default.