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[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
If anyone follows the news, HTC has announced that it will not update its HTC One X and One X+ (which both use Tegra 3) to Android 4.4. From what I can gather online, the reason for this is because Nvidia drops support for Tegra 3 and thus does not provide HTC with an updated BSP. If that is true, there is nothing much ASUS can do since Tegra 3 has more or less officially reached its end-of-life.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
There are many devices that are confirmed to be getting kitkat or already have kitkat that are tegra 3 devices; the original nexus 7 is tegra 3 and has kitkat. the Acer icinia a700 and a501 are getting kitkat, that is just to name a few. Nvidia is dropping support for tegra 2 not tegra 3, they will continue to support tegra 3 until they release the tegra k1 successor in 2015. Nvidia supports 3 generations of chips at a time. They always have back when they still make chipsets for computers they would support each chipset for 3 year or 3 generations. Has ASUS ever publicly released the information that they are not making a kitkat update for the tf701? NO they have not. The TF701 is NOT the tf700 successor, it does not have premium features that the infinity has, such as flash and an 8mp camera and super ips +. Asus is still marketing the tf700 as their flagship model. If asus does not release a 4.3 or 4.4 update it is their decision to not support their device and no others. Also many devices are just now getting 4.3 even though 4.4 is out, take sony xperia for example. Asus might still have one last update for us after all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Where did you see the a501 is getting KitKat?
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
sorry, I meant the a500
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I truly hope that there will be a 4.4 update for our tf700, but I really have to question many points of your post because personally they are really hard to believe.

1.	Besides the original Nexus 7, I cannot find a single Tegra 3 device that has an official 4.4 update or officially announced to receive the 4.4 update. Where did you get the information that Acer was going to provide 4.4 updates for any of its devices? The latest official update for both the Iconia A700 and A510 (not the A501) is the 4.1 update, which was back in 2012. If you Google around, you will see tons of people cursing Acer for abandoning its devices. As for the Iconia A500, it is a Tegra 2 device.

2.	Speaking of Tegra 2, if Nvidia indeed supported 3 generations of chips, besides the Motorola Xoom (which was the launch device of Android on tablets, a de facto Nexus device, if you will), shouldn’t there be a few other Tegra 2 devices being upgraded to Jelly Bean 4.1? Android 4.1 was launched with the original Nexus 7 (Tegra 3); back then Tegra 2 was only 1 generation old. Nevertheless, I still think that computer is a poor comparison. The latest Nvidia graphic driver (version 332.21, released on Jan 7 2014) still supports my old laptop’s Geforce 8600M GT (a 2008 card).

3.	I hope you are kidding about the tf701’s not being the successor of the tf700 and not ASUS’ flagship device. It is like saying Tegra 4 is not the successor of Tegra 3. As for the cutting down of features on the tf701 like camera and flash, the tf700 was priced out of the market, at least here in Singapore, hence some non-critical hardware features must be cut from the tf701 to reach a more competitive retail price. As for the display, the tf701 uses a new technology called IGZO, which probably is the technical reason for the screen not being as bright as the tf700 (pure speculation on my part). Nevertheless, I am sure you can find enough news articles that contain both “flagship” and “tf701” together to justify the flagship status of the tf701.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Totally agree mate. Previous poster seems confused and having both the TF701T is clearly superior and the successor of the TF700T. Realistically who on earth relies on a camera on a tablet. Personally I'd rather we lost the rear facing can if other functions could stay premium to maintain costs ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
yes after further research, the tf701 is the 700's sucessor. but the tegra 3 is not what is keeping asus from updating, it is asus.
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I have played around with the tf701 for a while at the shop, and I am glad that it is everything the tf700 should have been in terms of performance and pricing. Seriously, the tf700 alone cost me more than whole tf701 combo (tablet + keyboard dock), which is now actually competitive with the Note 10.1. My only complaint is that the screen resolution is too high that it reduces graphic performance. I honestly think that Tegra 4 should be paired with 1080p screens while the new K1 should go with 2560x1600, but it is simply my personal preference as a PC gamer. I only played with the tf701 for around 20 minutes, which was too short to let me see the difference in screen's resolution.

Nevertheless, I will skip the tf701 because I am considering getting a Padfone instead. My Sensation is getting really old and Tegra K1 is super interesting.

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Obviously what we are talking about is mostly speculation, which is why HTC has announced that it will hold an AMA session on Reddit about its refusal to update the One X and One X+. It would be good to know the reason.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Darnell_Chat_TN:
The rear camera on my TF700T is pretty much useless. Given I keep the case cover flpped over it whenever I'm using the tablet :D .

When I'm out, there's always masses of people with a phone taking pictures. (Me too.) And then, you see that "1" person who is out in public trying to snap pics with a tablet :D :p .
[Asus Transformer TF700] brecklundin:
That was prolly before the only update I've received which was the one to 4.2.1...have there been any since that I've forgotten...maybe a maintenance update not a version update i'm forgetting? Would not be surprised if it's so as these days my brain has turned to tapioca most of the time. ;)

thanks...
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
They did 2 majors:

4.0.3 to 4.1.1 and 4.2.1

Then 8+ updates as minors within those.
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Tapioca pudding - mmmhhhh
[Asus Transformer TF700] CanOBeans:
Miracast requires dual band N wireless to work. As it uses the 5GHz frequency to create the connection. The TF700T is only single band N (2.4GHz) therefore will never support Miracast.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Thanks for the clarification. :good:
[Asus Transformer TF700] ToTTenTranz:
Can you point out a source for that? I've never seen a frequency requirement for Miracast, ever.

In fact, the only requirement I've ever seen for Miracast is the support for WiFi Direct, which the TF700 supports officially (even if a little buggy).

Since the TF700 is capable of establishing a connection of >30Mbps over 2.4GHz, I'd be surprised if it didn't support the ~15Mbps needed for a 1080p H.264 stream with 5.1 AC3.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Proflig8tor:
Strange to read this gnashing of teeth over the TF700T.

I've got a TF100 running a version of 4.4 built by Timduru on xda and it does all the Chromecast stuff and even has a Netflix fix.

Kit Kat on TF100

Picked up a TF700T on EBay to get a better screen. Wondering if I dorked up. Is the TF700 that much more difficult to work with? Should I flip it right back on EBay when it arrives?
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
NO THE TF700 is very easy to work with, I am runing the latest official cm11 snapshot, and it works great, the installation process is very similar to that of your tf101
[Asus Transformer TF700] CanOBeans:
Whilst this is not the first site I remember reading it on - we had been working on it at work, as Miracast is also part of Windows 8.1.

myce . c.o.m. has a page which states:

Miracast uses the Wi-Fi radio frequencies to setup the connection (2.4Ghz) and for the actual transfer of content (5 Ghz).

I had come across this kind of information when seeing if the MS Surface Pro was Miracast compatible, and found references to the use of dual band N. Technically the Surface Pro uses the same wireless chipset as the Surface 2 Pro, and people have found a way to enable it.

I am not about to spend $199 for the official specification document, this is the best I can do!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] 3DeX:
So, if the asus is done with this tablet, and im fed up with this laginess and unresponsivness.... what are my options?

I was thinking about getting a Cromi-X custom ROM since I heard its the fastest one on this tablet. Is there a custom ROM that is faster and more responsive than Cromi-X ?

Or should I just give up and try to sell it since it still has about half a year of warranty? (Although the price has dropped pretty significantly)
[Asus Transformer TF700] sparksd:
I was fed up with stability issues and went to CROMi-X. As a result, I actually use my TF700T a lot now - speedy and stable. So it is a good starting point at the very least and after you've unlocked, etc you can explore other ROMs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I think you should just sell it and use the money to buy a different tablet, Custom ROMs can help you a lot with performance, but ultimately there is no magic bullet to fix the tablet's hardware limitation. Of course, if you don't want to spend money, flashing a custom ROM is your best course of action. Otherwise, you should consider tablets with Snapdragon 600/800 or Tegra 4, like the tf701, Note 10.1, Nexus 10, New Nexus 7, LG G Pad 8.3 GPe, or even the Padfone X. Even with stock ROM, those devices can give you performance that no custom ROM on the tf700 can even come close. Krait 400 and Cortex A-15 are really too powerful.

---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 PM ----------

FYI, HTC has done its AMA on Reddit, and it has more or less confirmed that Nvidia has dropped support for Tegra 3, with the exception of the T30 variant found in the Nexus 7, which uses a different set of drivers than other variants (T33, AP37). You might have to dig through the Reddit page for all the details, but I am starting to think that ASUS should stick to Snapdragon SoCs from now on.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/
[Asus Transformer TF700] BabelHuber:
I really can get upset when I see what Nvidia and Asus are doing!

The TF700 was a good device in 2012, but its slow memory makes it laggy. You have to use CROMI-X with ROM2SD and all tweaks enabled to get a decent experience (Browser2RAM, overclocking etc.)

Still, I use my TF700 daily, it's still an Ok device - and the dock still makes it useful!

The TF701 has dock stability and connection issues (unlike the TF700, which is at least mechanically stable!), so I hesitate to upgrade.

Nvidia is currently failing in the market - they are only a niche player. Which really is a shame, because I like competition and hence don't want Snapdragon to become the Intel of ARM!

The low market share of T4 means game developer often don't optimize their games. Tegra Zone is dead, too. In 2012 when I had the TF201 much more games were released which were Tegra-optimized. Now Asphalt 8 is one of the latest releases.

Today I looked at the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition, but I simply won't spend money on such a device: It looks good, it is a little bit smaller than the TF700 due to the smaller bezel and lighter, too.

Speed seemed good. I also did some internet surfing - it was faster then my TF700, but not so much faster that I wanted to buy one.

But the real turn-off is Touchwiz. It simply looks awful, actually much worse then on the Samsung phones IMHO. Nova Launcher won't fix this, the dropdown menu e.g. looks flat out ugly and the icons are huge. It looks like a scaled-up phone UI with ugly colors.

The only feature I really liked was multiwindows.

So I keep using my CROMI-X-tuned TF700. It seems that no OEM wants me to buy a new tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I agree that TouchWiz on tablets is terrible, and I initially thought Samsung couldn't do worse on the UI front (they never fail to amaze me), but specwise, the Note 10.1 2014 Edition is the most powerful Android tablet right now. I am sure an AOSP ROM can fully utilize all the hardware, minus the S-Pen.

If you don't want the dock, the rumored upcoming Xperia Tablet Z2 (Snapdragon 800, 3GB of RAM, waterproof, etc...) could be the one that you might be interested in. MWC is just around the corner.
[Asus Transformer TF700] BabelHuber:
AFAIK there is no AOSP version for the Noze 10.1 2014 Edition yet, and I doubt there will be one for the P600 with its Exynos SoC. The P605 OTOH is €600 with 16GB, which is a ripoff IMO. I won't buy this.

The Experia Z2 needs some developer support before I am interested, but I will keep an eye on this one.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I just got an N10 and must say, now that I have a device with decent storage. I'm really ticked at what Asus did with the TF700T. I used to defend Asus, but now I'm on the opposite end. The TF700T may be my last Asus product buy. I didn't even want a TF701 after what they did to the TF700. It's like rewarding them for making a bad product the first time.

This will be my last here, since I'm moving on. The TF700T is going to the kids, for them to abuse as they please.

I'm just saying to those wondering about the N10, get one. I've got a Kensington KeyFolio BT Keyboard case for mine. And it works great. I may get an ultra slim case for just the N10 unit to rest in that. Since although the Folio has edge protection, I'm concerned in a fall the N10 would come off the adhesive. But my N10 in its BT keyboard folio case, is lighter and slimmer than my TF700T in its Poetic Leather case.

Can't say I'm having any issues with the N10 and overall the experience is way better. It's hard to tell both the N10 and TF700T came out in 2012. It's as if the N10 came out at least 1-2 years later comparatively.

And now I have KitKat on my tablet :cool: . Even if Google ends updates for the N10. It's sure to have plenty of Developer love and will have ROMs such as Cyanogenmod and others. Always ensuring it has the latest Android releases.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Felborn:
I got feed up with this crappy device, I have run Cromi-X since 4.6 and that has helped alot. But, it only runs fairely smooth for a while, I'm constantly running lagfix and closing all application, running all kinds of software trying to keep my memory usage low and overall spending fare to much time tuning and fixing a issue that should not be there from the start. After this horrible experience, I dont want to hand more money over to Asus, so I decided to try out a Z2. Been running that for a week now, and it's everything I hoped it would be. Good batterytime, very nice screen and very very responsive. I dont have to close any and all processes when I want to start a new program and I have not had a single reboot yet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
Who cares if Asus brings us kk, or not LONG LIVE CROMBi
[Asus Transformer TF700] Torrentwin:
After a long wait for KitKat update from ASUS, i finally did the jump and i installed CROMBi-kk 20140511

It's like having a brand new tablet in hand!!
[Asus Transformer TF700] hoggdoc:
So even @

So an ad for the TF700t-b1 came across my screen this morning. $249.00 free shipping (not a refurb). I currently have a hacked TF101 and am considering an upgrade. After reading through most of the comments here I getting the opinion that the TF700T would not be a wise purchase.

Given it's seriously reduced price and that I am coming from the TF101 and I'm looking for some more speed and relief from random reboots is the TF700T still off the update list?

HD :confused:
[Asus Transformer TF700] sparksd:
My TF700T running CROMBi-kk ROM is now a very nice tablet to use. If you intend to leave it stock, I wouldn't buy it even if the price were $100.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Expat Brit:
Asus latest answer to possible upgrade to Kit Kat.

This is the reply I got today from Asus:

Dear Graham,

Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.

My name is Emma and it is my pleasure to help you with your problem.

After consulting related department in TW, up till now, they still have no schedule for next update but we will transfer customers' wishes to them for further development.

Once again, thank you for choosing ASUS products.

Have a great day!

If you continue to experience issues in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best Regards,

Emma

ASUS Product Support Team

888-678-3688

---------- Original Message ----------

From : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent : 2014/11/5 6:03:35

To : "asus_cc@asus.com"

Subject : <TSD> Eee Pad ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T

[CASEID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Apply date : 2014/11/05 06:03:35(UTC Time)

[Contact Information]

Name : Graham Walker

Email Address : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

City : Oroville

Country : United States

[Product Information]

Product Type : Eee Pad

Product Model : ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T

Product S/N : xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Place of Purchase : 09/03/2014

Date of Purchase : 2014/09/03

Operating System : Android

[Problem Description]

Does Asus have any plans to allow users of this tablet to upgrade to Android 4.4 or

5.0?

Many thanks in advance for any help or info.

Graham.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kansasboy001:
We will never get an update for our tablet. From Asus. They seem to have completely abandoned their ics era devices.
[Asus Transformer TF700] madiweb:
F*****g Asus
[Asus Transformer TF700] bravesoul:
Most manufacturers do that nowadays!
[Asus Transformer TF700] vipercoyote:
Guess this answered my question i just asked
[Asus Transformer TF700] sparksd:
Since I posted that I got a Galaxy Note 4. The best Quadrant score I got on my ROM'd TF700T was in the mid 7000's; my Note 4 scored 25,596 on Quadrant and almost 50,000 on Antutu. The TF700T still had lag compared to my 2013 Nexus 7 - now the Nexus 7 has lag compared to the Note 4. I rarely use mt TF700T any more. Too bad because the screen is beautiful but the lag drives me nuts even more now.
[Moto X Q&A] Polasja:
I would ask in the thread but I don't have enough posts to ask in there. I have the verizon version, by the way.
[Moto X Q&A] anirudh412:
Not sure what you mean by that.

And no, PAC works on unlocked BLs only. Unless someone makes it SS compatible
[Moto X Q&A] Polasja:
Well ****. I can't unlock my bootloader, unfortunately. Do you think that motorola will allow all phones to unlock the bootloader later on?
[Moto X Q&A] anirudh412:
Unfortunately, its not up to Motorola alone. BL unlock has to be granted by the carrier too. And I dont see VZ doing it anytime soon. Then again, with the Moto X, it doesnt matter all that much. You loose stuff like Active Notification and Touchless Control when you flash AOSP. So, not sure why anyone would want that. Some of the customization that ROMs offer can be had through XPosed Framework.

Someone please feel to correct me if I am wrong.
[Moto X Q&A] Polasja:
That would make sense as to why the bootloader hasn't been unlocked yet. I am not really familiar with how all of this stuff works. One of the main reasons why I root my phone is so I can mess with the kernels and achieve better battery life and performance, but I can see why people wouldn't want to switch to AOSP or AOKP because of that Active Notification. Thanks for the helpful information and the quick replies.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] saschahb:
Hi,

i just downloaded the file BA_DT_GER_14001_154_11200_Ship.exe from the xda-developers ftp-server.

now i try to change the id's for the .nbf files so that the updater-program updates my xdaIII from o2.

xda3nbftool -x ms_.nbf ms_.nba 0x20040522

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password

xda3nbftool -x nk.nbf nk.nba 0x20040521

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password

xda3nbftool -x radio_.nbf radio_.nba 0x20040523

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, possible you provided the wrong password

Perhaps someone can tell me what i did wrong?

thanks in advance.

Best wishes from germany

Sascha Schmidt
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bytemybits:
EditFix.bat ?

I'm new at this myself but I think there's something missing when you're re-doing the ID. I think you need to use GetDeviceData.exe to get your device info and then use EditFix.bat with that info (or run the xda3nbftool directly) with the -so -sl -sd options.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] splonker:
Hello, today I tried upgrading to Mamaich's Wizard, but unfortunately didn't get that far... I was following the WIKI, and got as far as ' Download EditFix.bat and XDA3NbfTool. Patch your ROM with the data in DeviceData.txt -- read EditFix.bat for the how-to. '

This seems rather vague, and when I click on the How-to it doesn't explain it at all, so I simly ran the .bat in the folder and it began processing it, until I got the following message...

WARNING: this does not look like a nbf header, perhaps you entered the wrong password

If what bytemybits is true, can someone explain how one should run editfix.bat properly?

Thanks for your help

Leo
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bytemybits:
Okay let me be more clear as I found that somewhat vague as well.

Download GetDeviceData.exe to your desktop, then copy it to your phone. Run it on your phone, it won't look like it did anything but there will now be a file called DeviceData.txt in your \Windows\ folder. Copy that file to your desktop and open it with your favorite text editor. It will be one long line with a bunch of non-printing (usually square boxes) characters. Remove the non-printing characters. You should now have something like:

PH20B 0 0 ORANG001 1.40.00 0 0 1.40.00 0 0 1.13.00 00

Now open the EditFix.bat file in that same text editor. There are a bunch of REM statements that tell you what to do. Basically you take the DeviceData information and use it to fill in the question marks in the bat file. So where there is a -so ????? change it to read -so PH20B (or wehatever you have). Do the same for the other question marks replacing them with the appropriate info. Save the EditFix.bat.

Now that's done run the EditFix.bat as instructed.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] splonker:
Ahhhh, thanks for your help! I shall try that later and let you know if I have success.

Thanks again bytemybits!

Leo
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
it's not gonna work. Any rom newer than 1.22 is Type II, that means that xda3nbftool can not be used for it. You have to use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe for upgrading.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] taxist:
xda3nbftool For 1.40, 1.42 does not exist?

And to carry out operation nbf-> nba for roms newer than 1.22 it is impossible?

I have correctly understood?

Problem in the password?
[General Topics] Pierangel:
Some one who will be so kindle to Sent me a launcher app vía SMS to +525538794283. I make a mistake and erase all apps. Thanks in advance