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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] antiguangenius:
usually if you are using the phone the clip is not attached.... took if out to make a call and it slipped from the waist to the ground.....

Only the LCD broke, Glass Perfect, Touch Perfect, LCD Done!!! Im sure the impact was from the back because the lcd sometimes making false

touch and when you press the back it stops.... I honestly returned the battery, the battery by itself weighs more that the phone with no battery..

I will purchase a second battery and charger and use a proper otterbox, I has it in an otter box before got the zerolemon and didnt last two weeks...

I had a zerolemon in my S4 never an issue and that fell so many times... but I notice the Note 3 Cover was cheaply made like more plastic than rubber..... the port covers will eventually break off.... I think if the included batter cover could fit with the large battery my lcd would have been saved but because the battery is not covered that cheap plastic cover will not absorb ANY Impact.......
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] BigMosley:
Dang. I usually snap the phone into the clip backwards and make a phone call. I disagree with the ports eventually snapping off, I have had this battery since it became available right before Thanksgiving and they don't show any signs of wear. I like the fact the ports on the ZL case are more of a hard plastic/rubber vs. otterbox's soft rubber. I had many of different color defenders for my s3 and those ports snap off every 2-3 weeks especially because you have to charge the phone daily which doesn't happen with this beast. Sorry about your bad luck with the ZL did you have insurance thru your carrier?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] davitox87:
Could you give me a link for the calibration app you used?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Here is the one I used:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration

but there are plenty of calibration apps on the play store and they all do the same thing - remove the batterystats.bin file, after which the system generates a new corrected file based on drain-discharge cycle.

Root required! I don't know if there's any non-root apps for that, but if there is, they probably work on a different principle.

Hope it helps.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
So it's best that everyone removes the bin file before the first discharge?

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Sounds like a good idea to do, the current file was created based on the OEM battery.

In the end, it won't hurt anything.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MeridianSun:
Selling mine for $48 shipped priority...

Sent from my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ttabbal:
According to Google developers, it doesn't help anything either. :)

But if you like it, go for it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] BigMosley:
PM sent
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
According to developers, calibrating your battery won't do anything? Hmm.. I can only speak from my experience, as I posted in a few of my replies soon after I've got this battery, it was staying at 1% for 3-4 hrs on heavy load while I was trying to drain in to give it a full charge. This behavior continued until I calibrated the batt. Now it's been only one full drain/charge cycle after the calibration, but it performed more or less accurate, at 1% it lasted not very much longer than it took it do go down 1% during any other part of discharge cycle.

What it means is it was showing me 1% while battery still had something like 10% of juice left in it, that's not good.

Try to drain your until the phone shuts off and see how it goes, most folks won't do that and will plug it in once at around 5-10%, as it's not good for the battery, but just try it once and see.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
I'm on my first cycle and didn't calibrate anything. Somewhere tomorrow my battery will die. I'll let you know about my behavior

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
Ive done several full recharge cycles. On my 15th by now. And I experienced the same issue you mentioned about it holding at 1%. The first few charges it would hang at 1% for upwards of 2 hours of screen on time.

I did not calibrate the battery any. I just continued my same process. And now it runs out of juice after a normal amount of time at 1%.

My opinion was android just needed to recognize the capacity or perhaps wasn't reading the voltage properly until after it had gotten used to the slower voltage drain of the larger battery.

Actually. Come to think of it. It would hang at 5 or 6 different percentages on its way down to 0. The battery graph would be flatlined for awhile even during heavy resource gaming.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Right, it's not necessary to calibrate, but look, it took you up to 15 charges for it to learn this new battery, and for me it took one time calibration to read it properly.

If I had to do it again, I'd calibrate right from the start, but I would also have my phone rooted, and this is not for everyone so not everyone can calibrate.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
My latest batt stats.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Stagg3r:
So I'm having some issues and I'm starting to worry that something is wrong with my battery. I received my ZL about 2 weeks ago. I have run through 4 or 5 full charge cycles and I've been noticing that the battery life is getting worse each time. I started with about 20 to 23 hours of on screen time. Last night was a charge night. The phone was plugged into the stock GN3 charger for 7 hours and the battery was at 100% at 8am. It is now 10:30AM and the battery is at 70% with the total screen time at just over an hour. No games or high draw apps. Just browsing and 10 min of Stitcher on my way to work. GPS is off as is Bluetooth. Even if I was watching Netflix, I wouldn't have been able to kill 30% of the battery in 2.5 hours on the first few charges.

Has anyone else found their ZL getting noticeably worse with each charge? I searched the thread but I couldn't find this exact issue but, then again, I'm on the Tapatalk app so I may have missed it. Should I be getting ready to contact ZL?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] therockk:
Have you tired flashing a different rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MatroxD:
Just curious.. And maybe I shouldn't be restarting my device, but is anyone having issues with the keeping track of time with the ZL? I mean, if I restart my phone and come back, and look at the battery stats, it restarts every time I reboot?

It only happens with the ZL and not the stock battery. Has anyone else had this issue? It's getting really frustrating...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
It shouldn't restart the stats unless your phone is at >90%. Or if you do factory reset. Flash new ROM.

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Mine has seemed to improve over the course of its life. Was at 12-15 now pushing 18-20.

I'm currently sitting at 94% with an hour and 15 of screen on and 6.5 on battery.

Are you sure your phone is deep sleeping? And perhaps you do have a battery issue, seems almost worse then the OEM battery discharge rate.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] tee00max:
Really thinking about picking one of these up. I think I can deal with the thickness but one thing I'm leery about is how durable is the case? It seems pretty sturdy but is the rubber case around it beginning to bulge around from the plastic? I know how otterbox cases begin to wear after some time and I was wondering was the rubber or tpu material that this case is made of does the same thing.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
I noticed the same thing with obox. How the rubber would get lose to the hard plastic.

The rubber in the zero lemon is a lot more stiff. It still hugs the hard plastic perfectly. And I've had it for over a month now.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Stagg3r:
Phone is deep sleeping if not as much as it should. I'm on Jelly Bomb 3.2 which I have been since I got the battery. I might think it was that except I had better life a few weeks ago. I'm now at 56% at 1:45PM
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MatroxD:
Im confused because you said install new rom? It has done this on Baja, Beans, Clean and now Eclipse...????

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Same here, zero issues with the case as many times as I have taken it apart and on and off well over a month I believe..
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
I have had the exact same thing happening. I couldn't find a fix so I tend to restart my phone right before taking it off the charger.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MatroxD:
Maybe I will begin this practice also. I just tend to tweek settings within Xposed and they require reboot. That then, with this battery gets pretty messy as it's hard to keep track of the time until rundown. I think I will do as your suggesting and just wait until I need a charge to play around with things...

Thanks for the feedback and your advise on this..
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
Say you are at 50% battery. And decide to flash some other Rom then you are currently running. Apon factory resetting and flashing your new Rom the battery stats get reset. So when you boot back up in the new ROM your battery stats will be a clean slate.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] tee00max:
Sounds good. Sound likes it's made with pretty good quality. Probably going to order it tonight after I read a few more reviews.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
First cycle, battery drained normal until 2 percent. I'm still on 2 after a half hour.. I can confirm that calibration is a must if you don't want this.

When is a good time to calibrate before charging full?

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Also am I allowed to delete the calibration app after 1 full cycle when it's fully calibrated?

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ttabbal:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1443108

Forgot to find the reference. According to the devs, the system deletes that file when you unplug with >90% charge level anyway. And that's what those "calibration" apps do....

If you like it, by all means, have at it...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
The app I downloaded had me charge phone until full the before disconnecting I hit the "calibrate" button and disconnected when prompted. This just deleted the file right before unplugging. The app doesn't run again unless you all it to do I assume you can delete app when done.

Hope this helps.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] wandro3d:
Based on your on screen stat, the average batt drain rate is approx 16% an hr. That is insane . I get on average 5-6% drain an hr on normal use.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
So beside omg ffs, are there more people that can confirm nema battery calibration works to not hang the last 2 percentage for a few hours?

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
I think you're right, I just checked the batterystats.bin properties and it says the file was created and modified today. I plugged my phone in a few hrs ago when the batt was at 20 something percent, it's only at 42% now (plugged into computer's USB - was copying files) and the time stamp says the file was created and modified about 30 min ago. So your >90% charge isn't correct but you're right saying calibration app is doing fcuk all. I didn't touch the calibration app for about a week and a new file was created 30 min ago???

There must be somewhere else the battery stats are stored then, why else ZL recommends to do so many charges/ drain cycles? Many here said their battery life increased after this and that many cycles so this "learning curve" must be stored somewhere in a system file?

Regardless, calibration did make a difference with my phone hanging at 1% charge for hours, was it a coincidence then? :confused:
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
Maybe the app does more than modifying the bin file but it is not described?

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Stagg3r:
Continue Reading ....

Based on your on screen stat, the average batt drain rate is approx 16% an hr. That is insane . I get on average 5-6% drain an hr on normal use.

Exactly. That's why it seems like something is wrong. All the usage is just from Android. No apps running. I guess I'll have to try a new room and see. If not I'll have to get a new battery or something.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
Don't blame your battery too quick.. There are several threads where people complain about enormous battery drains due Android OS

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mayonesa:
I have been debating about getting this but im not sure about the size.... I enjoy how thin the phone is now.. Decisions
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
My son dropped my ZeroLemon n3 down 14 stairs today onto hard wood floor. Phone still works. Case didn't cram. Overall quite impressed with the quality.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ttabbal:
Could be. I haven't looked into them in a while. But keep in mind that the % reading is a guess based on the voltage. That voltage change is really small for most of the discharge. Don't put too much stock in it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Possible, but I don't know why it wouldn't be mentioned? Looking at the play store page for this calibration app, it says it was downloaded and installed at least a million of times, it got 4.4 positive rating based on almost 11,000 reviews so it can't all be placebo?

Have you run your battery until the phone shut off? How long did it hang at 1%?

I'm reluctant to see if anyone else get the same result with this app.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] antiguangenius:
I can tell you I had this battery and returned it not because it dont work but because my phone fell on the back and the battery broke the lcd from the inside cost me over 250 to fix... this happened because the back of the case where the battery is is only protected by the soft plastic rubber that doesnt absorb ANY shock period the shock travel to the battery due to the tight fit of the note 3 ricoshay on the LCD that's immediately behind the battery..... not saying it will happen to you, just stating what happened to me...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
First cycle was without calibration and I hung the last 2 percentage about 2 hours with heavy use (streaming hd)

Now did a full recharge and calibrated before discharging. I'm currently on 58 percent I'll let you know if it solved or not when it is completely drained

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Did you wait until the phone shut off? I do recall it hanged a few times at various percentages before the calibration, but wasn't anything major like when it hanged at 1% before phone shut off, that was my real beef with this battery, when it was showing almost out of juice while there was still plenty left which allowed the phone to run for 3-4 hrs of heavy load.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] scooters29:
Birthday this weekend so have asked reletives to order me the combo.

I'm not wanting to root the note 3 until I have to so will be hoping that battery out of box makes as difference.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
I finally ran a complete drain on my phone for the calibration. It hung on 1% for nearly 3 hours before it died. I had it downloading a 4 gig file while watching 1080p movie. I will update how it acts on 1% in a few days.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
Mine hangs pretty good at random percentages.

Also. If you charge and don't fully charge. (I charged for an hour today from 16%. Unplugged at 53%. Maybe 3 hours screen on and I'm at 19%) the battery drains hella fast. As can be seen in the picture below. Can also notice in the picture how the % hangs randomly. Lot of flat lines in battery graph.

Also that huge drop off before charging was after I flashed 2 new ROMs bunch of kernels and a bunch of backups and restores. Still feel it dropped too fast. But. Makes sense as well. And the spike after the drop off is from a battery pull. Every battery pull you'll have a new % when your reboot.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] badbosspt:
worked!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
Just for clarity. Have you already calibrated and these are your results? I had similar behavior. When I charged completely the first 5 % dropped very fast then 95 % lasted ages. Now I have been at 97 % and of charger for about 7+ hours.

Just to clarify not at 97% for all that time. Just seems the percentage drop is more accurate or consistent over time and use.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jaycb420:
I have not calibrated. This is just how my phone reacts after a month with ZeroLemon and having never reset batt stats since receiving my note.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
Well in a few days I can at least comment on my battery behavior after calibration.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mansevolver:
My 6400mAh Hyperion as a comparison.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Neo3D:
That's odd? I get that kind of use on the stock battery?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Neo3D:
Use Dice Player and make sure the video is in a codec that is supported by hardware decoding, like h.264 MKV.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
Is there a way to do this with Mxplayer too? When I use my hw decoding I've mostly have no sound, video is stuttering or quality lowers a bit

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
I use the hw+ setting on my phone and it plays just fine. Have you downloaded the correct codecs? I have these installed.

These are my settings for comparison.

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mansevolver:
Uhh... no you don't. I have done extensive optimizations. Virtually no wake locks. If you've gone to the extent I have, there is no way you'd be getting twice what I get on my stock cell.

You don't got to lie to kick it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] dejazz:
I have to agree with you, unless it is flashed with a super naked custom rom with virtually no practical use (meaning no cell phone signal or wifi), then it is possible to achieve the time that Mansevolver had achieved. I am using Anker 6400 on Kit Kat yet I haven't able to achieve 11 hours
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
[MENTION=1292551]repsol[/MENTION] when I'm home I will definitely try this hw decoder

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mansevolver:
I get 9h 30m average. 10h is my holy grail. But I usually get 1d 12 hours or so total with that screen on time.

These results are slightly higher then I normally get. I have 2% wake locks. Over the span of 30 hours, its held for an hour and a half at most.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] drag&fly:
The best solution I could come up with was to remove the foam on the battery door that is to be used with the stock battery, while in the Zerolemon rugged case. I removed the clip that snaps in at the bottom also, so that the door sits flush across the battery and frame while in place. Hypothetically, if I were to drop my phone on the back the door and frame would soak up what impact the TPU case doesn't. Sounds good, looks good, case feels more solid and still fits well.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] antiguangenius:
That's not going to work its too close to the battery if you stick two bricks together and drop them what ever is on the end will receive the shock... that's the same scenario here there need to be a gap even the slightest gap would make a great difference the battery is to crammed and it's actually heavier than the phone itself, it's like dropping a fat kid and skinny one same time but I mean you can do a test and let us know the results, o returned mines got a refund and using a uag case.... this case is very nice phone doesn't loose its sleek design.. I'll get a USB battery if needed....
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
I can't thank you enough.

Can someone confirm that hw decoders use less battery than sw.

Also, I notice that quality goes that a little bit with the hw. But that's no problem if it drains less battery since I stream a lot with mx on HD http's

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Alyseon:
This was my best on stock 3,200 battery.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47313791

I can't imagine what battery will be like if I used ZeroLemon..

Sent From My Sm-N9005 ????
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Neo3D:
Just use Dice player, it works right out of the box. Almost all of the movies I get from torrents are h.264 and MKV and run for hours on hardware decoding. I had the 2012 Nexus 7 and it could play movies for 13hrs on auto brightness using Dice.

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I was looking at the 1 day 7hrs picture. Some days I forget to charge my phone and it goes thru the entire 2nd day just fine.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] johnnyv5:
Android OS more then screen time

Well I know it's been discussed but this pertains to this battery. Seems like when I have this battery in my phone the Android OS goes above screen time. I ran my stock battery the past couple days and Android OS was way below Screen time. I just checked the stats and Android OS is using over an hour and screen time is only 48 minutes. Anyone else see this? What could be causing this? I have wakelock detector installed but can't make any sense of it....

jv
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] drag&fly:
Either way I think it will work fine. I've dropped it several times and it fell from my roof while taking down Christmas lights. It's a great phone and a great battery and they work great together. Anything CAN be broken so I won't be too upset if it happens to mine. The pros for me more than outweigh the Cons of this setup in my daily usages.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] :
Just drained the second cycle. And I was still a while on 1 percent but not for a hour. Maybe a 10-15 min streaming and phone was down.

So either the calibration helped or draining the first cycle did it.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] OMG-FFS:
Yeah I had the exact same experience, now we can't know for sure if it was a calibration or problem fixed itself, unless someone tries to calibrate it right the first time they installed this battery.

Either way, there's no need to keep this app any longer so you can uninstall it. :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] repsol_23:
It isn't necessary to quote a description for a post. Most people here are already aware of all the specs and warranties.

Just my .02

Tap'n & Talk'n on my Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] \/icious:
just lost my s4 with this case battery combo on the third day of having it. I originally had an otterbox defender modded to fit an extended battery but i went with a yesoo battery and it wasnt near as good as the ankers i have bought in the past. Anyhow that combo did survive some good abuse. First drop hip high on linoleum split the screen and killed it with this zero lemon case/battery combo. Also i had to cut the ear speaker protector off because it blocked the sensor that darkens the screen when you are talking on the phone so it wouldnt come back on when i wanted to end the call. The battery life was superb but the case wasnt. i understand that the battery added even more weight but i have no doubt that if i could have modded the otterbox to accept it that it would have continued to provide ample protection. From now on its only modded Defenders with Anker or Hyperion batteries for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] snuff96:
Just got my package yesterday, packing is great, case fit perfect. Battery was at 58% when I put it in. Waiting for it to die out so I can charge it for its first cycle... Still at 32% even with constant use. Will update after my second cycle.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] therockk:
I agree.