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[Moto X Q&A] chirpa12:
So I've read a lot on here that the T-mobile version's bootloader and sim are both unlocked and can be used on AT&T's network.

1st question: How does this affect OTA updates when using TMO phone on AT&T?

2nd question: How does the AT&T version differ from the TMO and DEV editions (other that the LTE bands 5 & 7)? Is it branded? Is the bootloader locked?
[Moto X Q&A] jgolf:
People have mentioned in thread that TMO X and DEV X have a HSPA+ band that AT&T's X does not.

As I understand it, that means if you try to take an AT&T X onto TMO's network you will fall back to Edge when you can't pick up the HSPA+ band. You don't have the same problem the other way around. TMO X and DEV X are 100 percent functional on AT&T's network.

Somebody also mentioned that AT&T has branding on their phone -- Deathstar logo on back. OTA updates haven't been mentioned, but I've heard all Moto X's now have Kitkat except Sprint, so TMO X must have received OTA fast.

Please correct -- anybody -- if any of the above is incorrect.
[Moto X Q&A] PityOnU:
Which version is the best to get if I plan on using the phone on Verizon?

The obvious answer is the Verizon version, but I fear their hideous carrier branding and locked SIM.
[Moto X Q&A] oplix:
edit: might be wrong information.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Verizon LTE devices are SIM Unlocked. However, in recent firmwares, the phones are starting to say "The SIM card is from an unknown source" , and the APN settings are no longer being automatically set.

Example, my VZW GS4 and X with their original shipping firmware allowed me to put my T-Mobile sim in, the APN settings came down automatically, and you could just work.

With KK on my X, and 4.3 update on my GS4, putting my T-Mobile SIM in either phone results in the message "The SIM card is from an unknown source" and to get anything working, I must manually enter the APN settings then restart. And despite entering the APN settings exactly as my T-Mobile GS3 shows when using the same SIM, with the GS4 I haven't been able to get MMS to work.

As for Verizon bloat... Yup, its there on the develpper edition too. As for branding,it does say Verizon on the back, where it says Developer Edition. There is no other branding. No LTE logo on the back.
[Moto X Q&A] finalarcadia:
T-mobile moto X gets updated just fine no matter what. It is technically just a motorola phone, nothing to do with T-mobile other than bands are compatible with the network.
[Moto X Q&A] swaroop1616:
Will t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T

Any T-Mobile owners can confirm this, Does the t-mobile Moto X allow you to tether on AT&T without restriction?
[Moto X Q&A] Ch@l:
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I will live in France in the next few months. I was about to buy a GSM version (That's what gonna work over there). I was thinking about the Tmo version because of the unlocked sim. But is there any chance I can get the 4G with the ATandT since there is LTE 5 and 7. I heard that type 2, 4 and 17 both present in Tmo and AT versions are not working in France. Is there any way that 5 and 7 are available in France ? How to check ?
[Moto X Q&A] cipsaz:
Does the T-Mobile Moto X come with nano SIM installed?
[Moto X Q&A] Jimbogiant:
Yes, it comes with a T-Mobile nano-SIM
[Moto X Q&A] dew.man:
I don't know about the"restriction" part, but I've used my unlocked moto x with the official tmo 4.4 firmware to tether my laptop on att without having to use any hacks/tricks.
[Moto X Q&A] Xeno-V:
Hey all, I can see that this has been asked already several times but I want to make sure because I don't even live in the US. I want to buy the Moto X by taking advantage of Wednesday's coupon. I want to have it sent to a friend in the US and I plan to use it only in Europe. LTE won't work but I don't really care. So the T-Mobile version besides this will work perfectly fine, right? I can use any kind of SIM out of the box? I also contacted Motorola and they claimed that this it is locked (and that my only option was the DE model), so besides a few posts here I couldn't find any other source that confirms that the phone is SIM unlocked.

By the way does anyone know if payment through Motorola's website is possible with non-US credit cards? I am wondering if I won't be able to complete the transaction (and also because the cardholder's address will be different than the shipping address).
[Moto X Q&A] chirpa12:
On this site, https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/97459

It says, "If you’re attempting to order from outside the US, your order will not go through. Moto Maker is only available in the US right now."

Who knows though? It sounds like Moto has been telling people one thing and allowing another. You won't know till you try. Unless someone else has already tried it.
[Moto X Q&A] Ch@l:
I live in the US, but I French and still hold an French credit card. I tried to order the phone with the 150$ off coupon. My card didn't work. But I can't be sure 100% it's because it's non US because it happened fewtimes in the past that my bank blocked my card for safety purposes. So my roomate ordered it for me with his US card.

Concerning the sim card the T-Mobile version all the informations I read say mainly :

- Sim unlocked

- Bootloader locked but easily unlockable
[Moto X Q&A] kolyan:
so far i am under the impression tmobile is not unlockable
[Moto X Q&A] mrmyth:
A ten second Google search shows that Motorola's website itself says the that the US Cellular/Sprint/T-Mobile versions can be unlocked right on their site.
[Moto X Q&A] kolyan:
And 1 hour with moto tech support as well as actually having the phone itself, shows that bootloader does not qualify for unlocking AT LEAST YET
[Moto X Q&A] planktoid:
the tmobile variants does not have a subsidy lock , and it's bootloader is unlockable.
[Moto X Q&A] eldamobo:
My 2 cents are that the DEV ED and T-Mo variants are identical, except for some marketing spin - most specifically the warranty during bootloader unlock. The other thing I'm trying to figure out, is if the DE images and the T-MO system images are compatible.

So far, I've only seen one post indicating that we can use the DE images on the T-Mo MotoX.

Comments from sources on the moto forums have indicated they may not work:

https://forums.motorola.com/comment/746587

WHo knows? :)
[Moto X Q&A] hammersfd:
I know that if you download the GSM Developer Edition factory image directly from Motorola it says TMobile Retail, and has the same build number as what's on my DE. I'd say that means they're identical.
[Moto X Q&A] funmerlin:
I'd love to know if this gets confirmed. My T-Mobile x comes on Friday. As soon as I'm sure there are no hardware defects I plan on unlocking. But I'm going to give it a few weeks... My wife's Gnexus had a radio hardware issue that caused it to always fail handover between cell towers and we had to get a replacement after a week of factory resets etc.... So I don't want to get bit by something like that.
[Moto X Q&A] kolyan:
yeah, its all set now. phone wasnt in database before
[Moto X Q&A] larry62:
I'm about to go to Motomaker and get a Moto X, but wanted to confirm with others that what I intend to do makes sense:

1) Get 32gb Moto X for T-Mobile. Doing this because it appears to have an unlocked SIM and is a distribution void of the carrier bloatware. The only downside seems to be absence of some LTE bands which aren't used in the USA anyways.

2) If it's not unlocked SIM, go to http://www.cellunlocker.net/ and get it unlocked.

3) Sign up with an ATT based MVNO like Net10 or Straight talk. Choose SIM for ATT network which I believe should work in the T-Mobile Moto X. If I not mistaken, if you choose the T-Mobile ones, you'll be put on their network which isn't as strong in my area.

4) Might have to cut SIM to nano sized; not 100% clear either MVNO supplies nano (not on either company website).

5) OS updates are not 100% understood at this point. Might have to unlock the bootloader to update via the developer edition software, but not certain that will work either.

Does this sound about right?
[Moto X Q&A] planktoid:
2) there is no SIM lock. You can delete that line.

5) you should get OS updates on the same schedule as the tmo moto x. Unless you replace the system with an alternate android image :)
[Moto X Q&A] larry62:
Thank you for the confirmation. Don't imagine updates will come OTA if I have an ATT MVNO SIMed T-Mobile lineage Moto X, or an I wrong about that?

If not provided OTA by the MVNO, is there some update code in Android which will "phone home" and do the updates directly from Motorola similar to how it works on my WiFi Nexus 7?

If not, do you have to unlock the bootloader to do updates via adb from a PC? Unlike the SGS3 I'm replacing with the Moto X, I don't feel the need to root the Moto X for an alternate ROM as it comes delivered just right (T-Mobile version). Only reason to root for me is to make some Tasker scripts work which require root. If kitkat (T-Mobile) is void of the carrier nuisance/nag screens I've seen on my Verizon phones for things like turning on GPS, then those scripts won't be needed.
[Moto X Q&A] SnowBeer:
If the SIM is not locked, then without any bootloader unlocking, you can simply swap out a SIM card and be off and running on AT&T, correct?

The OTA updates for all phones except for nexus and google experience phones go through carriers, because most non nexus phones get custom theming and bloatware from the carriers. On the tmo moto X, there isn't any custom stuff, so I understand that they may just send out plain updates that will work fine on AT&T. However, I think that the carriers maintain a list of IMEIs on their networks and send out updates accordingly. I'd guess you would never get updates for a tmo moto X running on AT&T until you put a tmo sim back in and activated it. I also suspect there is no way we will ever be able to definitively answer the OTA question of a tmo moto X on AT&T until a Tmo OTA comes out.

My situation is my wife uses AT&T for work, but once she's tired of it or if they force her into an iPhone I'd snag it and use it on Tmo.
[Moto X Q&A] funmerlin:
Doesnt the gsm Dev edition update come directly from Motorola? Maybe the T-Mobile one would come from them too?
[Moto X Q&A] Steve-x:
All the updates come direct from Motorola. In most cases the carrier has to approve them before Motorola releases them though. In the case of tmobile they won't be approving anything as the firmware the dev edition and tmobile customer phones use are the "retail" sales build. It is the most generic build that exists for the Moto X, not branded or built for any specific provider.
[Moto X Q&A] aooga:
Just for fun, I tried to put the DE image on my tmobile one and it worked fine. In fact, I'm almost positive that they're the same file. It even says tmobile in the name of the file. Moto is really annoying me with the DE warranty thing. If it's the same phone, then how does it affect them?
[Moto X Q&A] eldamobo:
Folks, upon reading up on how to make your own skip nfc tags I read that the developer versions have the nfc tag admin settings in the security screen enabled, whereas the carrier versions require you to tap a real skip nfc before the setting is enabled. This is significant because once you have access to the menu you can program other nfc tags to act like skips (with the caveat that only a real skip has the magnet to power on the nfc reader from sleep).
[Moto X Q&A] funmerlin:
The T-Mobile version has skip NFC unlock available as well. Now I just need a writable tag....
[Moto X Q&A] eldamobo:
Maybe I'm confused. I know the ability to select NFC unlock is there, however you don't have Manage NFC Unlock unless you have a SKIP device to start with.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2469994

Maybe non-Tmobile device don't even have the NFC unlock option in the Screen Lock Menu?
[Moto X Q&A] Steve-x:
Non T-Mobile also have NFC unlock.
[Moto X Q&A] eldamobo:
Well does anyone have the"manage NFC" menu entry available? (Assuming you don't have a skip setup yet)
[Moto X Q&A] Iceman248:
What exactly do you mean by this? I'll be switching from Sprint, buying a brand new Moto X GSM Unlocked to be used on new service on AT&T.

Thanks.
[Moto X Q&A] finalarcadia:
Since you're a new customer they'll have to put in the IMEI of your new phone I assume. If you buy the T-Mobile version and you're not getting LTE on AT&T, force them to change the IMEI on their system to one of their phones. Alternatively, write down the IMEI yourself off one of the store models, and give them that.

Or you might not have a problem at all. Fact is though that the Moto X T-mobile version's hardware supports AT&T LTE.
[Moto X Q&A] Iceman248:
Okay. Thanks. So if I understand this right, if my LTE works, it's good? If not, let them know. I'll mention it when activating anyways.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] jbuggy1:
I have read a bunch of threads for upgrading to 4.3 with root and not take the ota but all the methods need a bunch of other little parts to flash. is there one method that has the wifi, modem, hotspot, and no knox.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] FanOfSkynyrd:
Not yet
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BryWr:
I just got my G2 (T-Mobile) and am wanting to transfer my files over to it from my old phone. Unfortunately, im on a mac. So I have to use Android File Manager, except it wont work. I either get a cant connect to device error, or it loads up but wont display files or let me make any transfers.

Any suggestions? I have many gigs to transfer so a wireless solution isn't optimal.

Thanks a bunch!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jellybear456:
Had a problem with it too. Just download "Airdroid" on the play store and you can transfer files easily through WiFi.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BryWr:
Files are to large for wifi, as I stated in my OP. But once I installed a ROM it worked normally again. Got all my files.
[Moto X Q&A] mtoomey79:
Proud owner of a white MotoX that I baby. Today, for the first time in few weeks, I removed the TPU case I have in it. Besides the MotoX being super hot, I noticed a bulge in the back of it. The bulge is in the form of essentially a line about 1-1.5cm in length, stretching from the 7 o'clock-8 o'clock position, about .25cm from the indent in the back.

Pictures cannot do this justice, its totally a "feel" thing.

Anybody else experience this at all?
[Moto X Q&A] flashallthetime:
Probably the heat from the battery or cpu causing the back plate to warp

Sent on my Moto X 1058 Running CM 11 kitkat
[Moto X Q&A] mtoomey79:
Precisely my guess as well.

Replace backplate on my own or exchange *another* MotoX?
[Moto X Q&A] flashallthetime:
Well it depends, your case caused the heat to warp the back so, I would assume it wouldn't be covered under warranty.

You could replace the back cover as long as you take your time and follow the procedure on fixit

Sent on my Moto X 1058 Running CM 11 kitkat
[Moto X Q&A] mtoomey79:
What case ;)
[Moto X Q&A] flashallthetime:
Next point, depends on how honest you are, wasn't going to say that initially

Sent on my Moto X 1058 Running CM 11 kitkat
[Moto X Q&A] phositadc:
I'm not so sure. Unlocking bootloader voids warranty, yes. But using a case voids warranty? I think not.

If you call and tell them your back plate is warped I doubt they will even ask if you use a case. If they do say "yeah, specifically to avoid detects like this one!"

Sent from my XT1053
[General Topics] CJSnet:
Where are e-mail account & unread files held?

Hi there, hope you can help.

I have an HTC Wizard (O2 XDA Mini S) and recently restored a backup using

the latest Sprite Backup for WM5.0.

It kinda half restored my one POP3 e-mail account, in that the account

appears on the Today screen showing '59 Unread', but not in the Messaging

program folder list. I.e. it's there, but not visible and I can't see the

Inbox etc.

When I try to recreate the account using the same name, Messaging won't let

me as 'an account already exists with that name'. So, it's invisible.

I've tried removing all entries of the account name from the registry, but

after a reboot they reappear, it still shows Unread items, and I can't

recreate the account.

How can I completely remove this account, to start again?

I've tried Sprite Backup's Mailclean program but to no avail.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazy.wingman:
Hello all,

As a newbie, I want to know about all the mandatory permissions as per Google guidelines that are required in any apps manifest .xml file.

Mandatory I mean the permissions which are required for any app to run on any android device.

awaiting for your valuable answers....
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcm7:
Hi guys,

I have old Nexus 7 32 GB WIFI, with Tegra 3 CPU.

Here are the condition :

- JB 4.2.2

- rooted

- Stock ROM

- Franco Kernel 3.1

- Stock Recovery

There are two strange thing, I found :

1) It seems that my Nexus 7 don't have all CPU freq, for example, there is no 1200MHz freq

2) How low can it be under volt? take a look at the attachment, I UV -400mV, it is stable, but can it UV really low?
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xateeq:
Flash latest kernel and cehck the kernel thread for possible problems/solutions.

Franco kernel have different cpu frequencies then other kernels.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RootTheMachine:
It doesn't make sense to have every frequency increment. UV has been broken in Franco kernel for some time now.

Also, you didn't specify which version you are on.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcm7:
Thanks for all your reply guys,

I think it is a kernel problem that doesn't work with UV, forgot the version, cause now hase changed to MKernel, seem UV working correctly.
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
Thread has been moved

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2575556
[Other SmartWatches] |SavageD|:
Thanks for the review, however I can't watch the video because my workplace has blocked youtube. What is the overall verdict? Good or Bad? Also, is it waterproof?

I love the look of this watch.
[Other SmartWatches] adonleice:
thank you very much for the review, the truth that I like, you know any way I can upgrade to 4.3 to work with smarthpone.

thank you very much
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
Well its gotten wet in the rain so far withou any adverse effect... Not going to submerge in water tho lol..

Its lacking tru call handling and notifications support at the moment. Doesnt quite 'integrate' with my note 2 just yet (running 4.3)... But i can seemlessly send pictures, apps, video via Bluetooth consistently without any issues. Wifi works 110% perfect.

As a watch its great... Just added GO locker for more variety. Its def for those gadget geeks who are really good with this kind of stuff
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
have you tried paring bluetooth headset to it?

by "Its lacking tru call handling" do you mean that it is not capable of receiving and making calls?
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
Well the watch itself is a phone.. And this is how its recognized via bluetooth. U can do file transfer and stuff but it doesnt really interface with your primary smart phone.... I believe they are still working on the application to make this possible. They appear to be doing things a little backwards
[Other SmartWatches] m34n1ng:
Nice! Have you tried using the app tablet talk? I'm ordering one very soon. Also did yours come with the play store? If not I may have an idea to get it working.
[Other SmartWatches] janek69:
Please take some shot with phone's camera and upload! I'd like to see the camera quality. Maybe video if it is possible. THX!
[Other SmartWatches] skyworxx:
Can you tether it to a phone so you can use the phone's internet connection? This is something most smartwatches seem to be lacking, even though it should be included if the manufacturer doesn't mess with the software (i.e. removing that option intentionally)
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
I meant that it is lacking phone pair connectivity. Such as ; if you get a text the phone cannot notify you, or if you have a call coming in the watch will not notify you... this software doesn't exist yet. I have tried numerous apps on play store but no luck as of yet.
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
yes, came with play store... downloaded and installed plenty of apps...

haven't tried tablet talk yet.
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
It's a 2 mega pixel camera... the quality isn't too bad overall... video quality is actually Very Good... i sent a video from the watch to my galaxy note 2 and the resolution was very surprising..... it was good. not too much distortion - The only thing is that the frame rate is less so you will noticing a little skipping vs a high quality galaxy note or s4 camera would take.. this is expected though.
[Other SmartWatches] luigiwidmore:
Hey ,

Can you tell us if the watch has vibration?

Does it vibrate when you get a call or a sms/email?
[Other SmartWatches] acb123:
Can you upload some sample images or videos please? :)

I really appreciate the effort of this watch's Chinese manufacturer. IMO, this watch is even better than all of the so-called "smart watch" on the market at the moment :good: (edit: especially the Galaxy Gear)
[Other SmartWatches] fibroman:
I can't tell you about the call as I have not put a sim card in it yet, but It does have vibration capabilities as it vibrates when you turn off the watch. The vibration is nice and strong.
[Other SmartWatches] luigiwidmore:
thank you very much , you just made my day :)

I have just ordered it from chinavasion and got me to 179 including dhl shipping

My next question is about the battery , how much would it last for a wifi video call for example?
[Other SmartWatches] fibroman:
On my watch, The battery does drain pretty fast and it runs very hot. I am not sure if others here have the same problem, but I am about to play around with a Governor app too see if I can improve battery life/cool it down.
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
I thing i haven't tried is changing the governor to POWERSAVE while running the STOCK LAUNCHER.

Of course i'm on ADW EX launcher so it would be stupid to run powersave...
[Other SmartWatches] CYberdog11:
Does the ZGPAX S5 support 3G?

Sometimes I read is does, sometimes it does`nt has anybody test it by now?
[Other SmartWatches] ronfurro:
Good question. If it does have 3G, anyone tried hotspoting it yet? Would be great to be able to have a wrist hotspot.

Be nice to know if this chip set has a GPS bc navigation would be great if it is supported too.
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
Yes GPS works... i can set time right now using the GPS without a sim card or any data connection :)
[Other SmartWatches] shaolin95:
I am very close to buying this. Just waiting on your test result to decide.

One of the reason this watch caught my attention is how smooth it looks when you are moving between icons on your video.

Guess that CPU really comes in handy!

Sad that the camera you used focused on the back instead of the watch and also that you ended the video before wearing the watch. I really wanted to see how it looked when wearing it. :)

I am glad I took my time instead of going with the Qmart Z because this one looks more complete. If it can play youtube (mainly for audio shows I like to listen before sleeping) that will rock...and I think I did see some videos showing youtube on it.

What a freakin amazing watch! :D
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
Both the stock launcher and adw ex run very smoothly on the watch. Also i have picture of me wearing it if your interested...

Also the device will play you tube no problem. The speaker is quite loud too

I took the video in bad lighting on my note 2 but that's all i had time for.