yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bfettd:
Don't get me wrong - I totally understand the appeal of glass, both in terms of clarity and feel, over some kind of plastic cover. My point is simply that the GG3 is *much* stronger / resilient than any kind of cover (to the point that dragging my keys or any "normal" situation wouldn't cause it issue) and that the cover, no matter what tensile properties, will never prevent cracking of the glass if the phone is dropped. Additionally, given that LG has finally figured out that separating the digitizer from the glass (a la iPhone) means that instead of paying $200 every time you crack the glass (as I have done, unfortunately, 4 times on my N4) - instead the phone works fine with cracked glass and eventually the glass prices should fall to something on the order of $30-40 installed. This is including the markup that the company I used to fix my N4 quoted me (e.g. retail pricing).

At that price point, why would you install a weaker, less efficient, optically distorting (all optical layers added on cause distortion, trust me I have a high level academic b/g in this field) when for the same price (or less if you're as prone to dropping your phone as I am) - you can have the glass replaced by the factory item for the same price or less? Plus the factory glass feels the best and has the most desirable features (oliophobic, hydrophobic, higher tensility, etc.) - no question.

--Dan
[Nexus 5 Accessories] shrewdgeek:
Its £27.99 for .tr nano and £26.99 for .t nano on amazon UK :D
[Nexus 5 Accessories] tylerdurden83:
I cant find what's the difference between the two...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] maconsultant:
Mine says shipment is preparing to ship.. I should have it by Dec. 4th..
[Nexus 5 Accessories] shrewdgeek:
The seller "Keepincase" on amazon marketplace is official reseller of spigen products in UK and they also have ebay UK store....

I also don't know why on amazon they are selling for low price than on spigen.co.uk :confused:

Anyways I ordered from them cases for nexus 5 so i ordered again the glass .tr nano.Lets see if i even get :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] pmoradi2002:
The "tr" has beveled edges, the "t" does not.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] shrewdgeek:
The difference between prices on amazon UK and spigen.co.uk not between .t and .tr ... :o
[Nexus 5 Accessories] madman6886:
Hi,

Just wanted to chime in on this

GG3 is strong, but it's still glass - I always find these demos with keys and knives kind of strange, because metals are typically softer than glass. The problem with any glass is - if you have your phone in your pocket with just a few grains of sand - you will get scratches - even on the Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass is hardened to prevent shattering and scratch-resistant, but not scratch-proof. So, yes I think glass protector is a great idea.

I've been looking into the issues people had with bubbles forming on their Nexus 5 - and then I noticed that my Nexus 5, has a slight imperfection, almost like a slight dimple on the bottom of the glass, near the notification LED. It's really hard to see and I only noticed it by accident when I had the phone laying on the window sill and saw slightly distorted reflection of trees outside. I am wondering if people with bubble problem are in fact suffering from similar imperfection on the Nexus's glass preventing complete adhesion.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] markp99:
This is exactly the issue. There is a slight deformity in the flatness of the Nexus 5 glass surface in that area (bottom right on the bezel), a barely perceptible depression.

The current Spigen glass protectors are just too thick/stiff to accommodate this variation in flatness on the Nexus 5 screen. The result is a "bubble" under the protector.

I am guessing the Nano, being thinner and hopefully more compliant, will adhere properly to the Nexus 5 surface. Maybe a more aggressive adhesive could help here too?

I'm holding off until I see some user reviews. Also, still waiting for my Spigen refund!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] specv:
I thought the same thing. Day 1 I scratched my GS4 with keys in my pocket.I ran my N4 naked for 6 months without a problem. My N5 shall have a glass screen protector.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] joekinney@hotmail.com:
i was ondering if there were any software that would allow 2exec' to estabilish a video chat session over wifi rather than paying for the 3G rates... also if there were a way to do the same with regular pc users too

thanks for any information
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stickeresq:
Not as yet even though the camera does have the facility to be integrated into applications, unfortunately no-one has yet!

Video calling is good though!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] JZEE:
I sent an email to the MS Portrait team and they told me that this may be included in a future version if they can get the camera API.

I think it would be a killer app that will separate the Jasjar from all the others.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Dubrand:
You are wrong. With PocketCaster www.comvu.com you can stream videos from both cameras via GPRS, UMTS, WiFi up to Comvu-Server.

Regards, Gerd Dubrand
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zormic:
Thanx, man! Bravo for the info! :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dbarker348:
That's amazing! I just downloaded and played a bit but I couldn't really play that much seeing as O2 only give me 1MB a month!! booooo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] JZEE:
Dubrand,

Thanks for the info. However since I haven't yet seen this tool you are referring to, is this tool solely a video blog? In other words, from what you are saying, it cannot be used to do an interactive chat between two people on the fly (like in MSN Messenger on the PC) but only to save and upload a video clip on a server no?

Tks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] judders:
Thanks Dubrand! :) Looks like a fun little app/service. 8)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rastaman:
Thanks a lot!

It cannot be used to do an interactive chat between two people on the fly (YET). But i think this is a terrific proof of the concept that the build in camera can be used in (interactive) applications from third parties. An exciting promise for future use of the HTC Universal.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] joekinney@hotmail.com:
thanks for the info. i think this is a must have and when it is fully integrated into say msn messenger this will be my far the best device / gadget for years :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] kevin666:
3g video web conferencing

Any developers who fancy having a bash at developing such a website feel free to contact me. www.meetnow.co.uk...I have the ideas, web address (not live yet)...but lacking the technical know how..

kevindunn@meetnow.co.uk

+44 (0)7738122467
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] majdi:
i would really love to get the vga camera works on MSN messanger, the other day my web cam just died & i was desperately wanted to go live with my family, but i couldn't find a way to make it work.

it surely will be a big kicka**
[One (M7) General] EM101:
Registered here just so I could say you are awesome! Your guide worked for me after literally months of trying to get s-off for my AT&T HTC One hboot 1.55.

A couple things I had to do differently:

1. I used a ISO image of Ubuntu 12.04.3 32 bit burned to a dvd and just booted off it to the option to try Ubuntu without installing. I could not get your link to work with my Windows 7 installation.

2. Since I was not actually booting from my hard drive but rather a read only DVD, I had to do some improvising for the extracting of the rumrunner files. I put them on the desktop, but then had to search a bit to find them in order to run the soju file in terminal.

Again, thank you!
[One (M7) General] painnpleasure:
whats yer firmware fella?
[One (M7) General] EM101:
It was 3.17.502.3 but since I achieved s-off I am now a "converted to Google Edition" with firmware 3.62.1700.1.
[One (M7) General] painnpleasure:
Ok thnx fella.im on 3.63.111.3 and having difficulties running rumrunners.ill give it another go then. I want to get to go Google edition aswel.
[One (M7) General] skythunder83:
sudo ./soju

I get err command not found!!

help plz should I be using the linux?

No prob I gut it :laugh:
[One (M7) General] EM101:
Use the ls command to see what is in the directory you are in. Use the cd command to change directories. Keep searching til you find the directory where you put the soju file. Good luck.
[One (M7) General] hyrax1994:
Does my HTC One still have to be unlocked from HTC-Dev? Thank you in advance.
[One (M7) General] kickassdave:
Glad to hear buddy. I also spent a considerable amount of time trying to find a solution to this and had just about given up.

Thanks for providing some additional notes on your steps too, might help someone else get theirs working too.
[One (M7) General] kickassdave:
By whatever means, you will need to initially be rooted. Unlocking via HTC Dev was how I got root.

Ironically this also (at the time, not sure if it's changed) doesn't work in Windows 8.1 lol and I had to root my phone using my parents laptop with Windows 7 installed.

They then upgraded to 8,1 so I couldn't use it to get S-OFF later on.
[One (M7) General] coolpal:
I finally got s-off on my att htc one. Was pretty much trying the same thing as OP stated here, but had some difficulties with other things.

1. OP's instructions didn't work for latest ubuntu (13.10)

2. Had linux mint installed on my pc, but it was 64bit.. tried quite a bit to get it working there (adb and fastboot work), but rumrunner was not happy with 64bit

3. Finally tried it on Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS 32 bit and everything was smooth with it

One other thing to note.. I used live USB instead of installing ubuntu on my pc. had no issues, but had to use a bit older version of ubuntu and 32 bit (even tho my pc has 16Gigs of memory) :)
[One (M7) General] pintabit:
Don't know what's different, but Rumrunner worked for me - hboot 1.56, ARHD 41.0 and Windows 8.1
[One (M7) General] roose21:
I'm using crouton install of Ubuntu on my chromebook and after trying to install adb and fastboot I get:

E: Unable to locate package android-tools-adb

E: Unable to locate package android-tools-fastboot

Any ideas guys? I really want s-off! Any help would be appreciated!
[One (M7) General] kickassdave:
Sounds like the location of those packages has changed? Unless the reason it isn't working is because of the version of Ubuntu you're on. Hmm.
[One (M7) General] kickassdave:
Try this:

http://vondroid.com/threads/how-to-...on-ubuntu-and-other-linux-based-systems.9793/
[One (M7) General] punisher195:
My computer finally can recognize my phone in fastboot mode. Thanks !
[One (M7) General] kickassdave:
Use the "thanks" button and rate the thread then ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nathan-NL:
When I turn my screen to a higher brightness I can see vertical lines on the right of the screen. Especially on darker colors, like in the Settings.

Does anyone else have this? Can I fix it?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezk38:
Can you take a picture of it? Is it just darker or lighter then what it should be displaying, or like some random color with no correlation to what it should be displaying? Or does it just look like a rough gradient like this?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nathan-NL:
Lighter. I think it could be a rough gradient. And I use 4.4, unlocked and rooted. Only custom recovery at this moment: CWM.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lopezk38:
Try taking a screenshot and seeing if you can see the same gradient on another device. It might be a software issue since it seems like a rough gradient.
[Nexus 5 General] socaltyger:
Just got my White Nexus 5 last night... Here's a scratch test on the new gorilla glass 3 screen. Personally I'm not a fan of using screen protectors, I never liked the orange peel feel when using the screen. I've always felt they take away from the smooth touch experience of the glass.

Anyhow, here's the video if you're bored and wanted to see:

Nexus 5 screen vs box cutter, xacto knife, coins, keys

http://youtu.be/b_7PBy_2z8E
[Nexus 5 General] chasinn32:
lol

lol
[Nexus 5 General] bbedward:
I prefer not to use a screen protector myself.

But while a box cutter, xacto knife, coins, and keys will not scratch glass, other common elements as quartz and topaz WILL scratch glass.

In reality, most sand consists of quartz, so if you happened to have a couple of grains of sand in your pocket or along your keys, then you wouldn't be so lucky ;)

Also, any diamond ring/earing/etc. will obviously scratch the glass as well.

In the end, there's plenty of reasons to get a screen protector. Steel/copper/etc. are not the only things people may have touching their screen :good:

Also if you happened to impact the screen and shatter it, a screen protector could potentially hold the shards in place (much like window tint). Preventing you from getting bloody fingers and retaining the ability to use your phone. (I don't think most screen protectors are marketed for this, since other elements of the screen can break besides the glass on impact, but it's a practical benefit nonetheless)

*edit*

See the Mohs scale of hardness. Glass/Gorilla glass is around 6/7 I think. Steel is around a 5.
[Nexus 5 General] LuBi:
but why? :eek: lol, thank you? I personally haven't used a screen protector since my HTC Mogul.. never had a single scratch on any device over the years. Phone gets a pocket to itself, loose change, keys, and whatever else go in the other.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Spot on my friend, spot on. Grain of sand will wreck the screen unlike a bunch of keys.
[Nexus 5 General] bbedward:
The interesting thing is this new sapphire glass (apple uses it over the iPhone fingerprint button), is significantly harder than normal glass so sand won't harm it.

In the near future we'll probably see that more widespread.
[Nexus 5 General] ChrisDDD:
I've never seen a screen protector with anything that could be described as orange peel, although I'll agree, they gain friction as they wear and pick up fine scratches. And sure, they'll scratch far easier than the actual screen would, but at ~$1 each, I'm fine replacing them once or twice a year.

As for bubbles, if you're getting bubbles, you simply aren't installing them correctly. I've never had bubbles under mine, and they're virtually unnoticeable save for the little edge on the cutouts around the speaker, camera and sensors. If you have a spec underneath causing a bubble, just slip in a piece of scotch tape, gently push it down onto the spec, and pull it out. Easiest way to get any bubble causing hairs or pieces of dust out.

And as the others have said, Gorilla Glass may protect against big things like coins and keys, but it's the little grains of sand that'll get 'ya.
[Nexus 5 General] socaltyger:
I agree, it's the quartz that will scratch up the screens.I use a flip case that doubles as my car mount so my phone is protected the bulk of the time it's not in use. And when it is in use, clean, smooth and naked.
[Nexus 5 General] LuBi:
Considering apple purchased roughly a $600 million stockpile of synthetic sapphire and just got that plant for their supplier I'd have to agree.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
But will it blend?
[Nexus 5 General] MerkurMan:
The whole screen protector debate is a double edged sword. There are pros and cons to each, and neither is perfect.

1. While you might not scratch the screen, you will wear away the oleophobic coating on the glass. I've rocked a SP on my N4 since day 1, and since it leaves a sizable gap around the edge of the screen, I can see where the coating is now missing on that unprotected part. When I do remove the SP every now and then to replace it, it's amazing to see how easily finger oils stick to the outer edge of the screen and not under the protected section. I can almost feel a lip with my fingernail. You might not notice the difference over time, but I'd rather maintain that coating, and should I wish to go naked one day or one week (which I often do), it looks and feels like a brand new device. I also don't baby my phone, keeping it in my pocket all day at work in a manufacturing shop with a lot of dust and debris in the air, and where I'm constantly moving.

2. Sure, the SP wears out quicker than the coating does, but they're replaceable. I rocked my Gnex naked for a year and it has a myriad of small scratches and one or two deeper ones that are noticeable with the screen on. Wish I'd protected it, but the curved screen just made dry SPs look ridiculous, and I don't use wet ones.

3. Sapphire screens may not ever come to fruition, and if they do, there will be additional drawbacks. Sapphire is extremely hard and resistant to scratches, but it's also very brittle and susceptible to shattering. It works for watch crystals and iPhone home buttons, because they're relatively small and can be made extremely thick. But a phone display is much larger and thinner, and I don't know how manufacturers will overcome that.
[Nexus 5 General] Carbajal3009:
Lol we have to see a blend test op!
[Nexus 5 General] hmanxx:
Well I owned nexus one ,nexus s, galaxy nexus , nexus 4 and now nexus 5 .all without screen protector. I never get into problem of screen scratches . my phone is always in a sleeve while keeping it in my pant .

Typically I used the phone for close to a year till next nexus phone come out..

I have a tailored made leather pocket that I used since galaxy nexus which fit for nexus 4 and nexus 5 .. that could be the reason of phone not subjected to scratches by sands or similar objects
[Nexus 5 General] edved:
Well the video is cool and all, but I gotta say the white Nexus 5 screen so far isn't very resilient when it comes to screen durability.

I've owned numerous phones including the Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4 and now Nexus 5. All except for the 5 have held up really well.

I've got tons of micro-scratches and until now I haven't seen the need for a screen protector, but I think it's too late!

I gotta say the 5 is horrible! WTF! I thought it had Gorilla Glass 3. Gorilla 3 has gone soft :(

I've owned the phone for less than 2 weeks and it's got more micro scratches on it then my Nexus 4 did when I sold after 6 months of usage.

I must add that I love the phone and it is head and shoulders above the Nexus 4 which is anemic in comparison! No regrets!
[Nexus 5 General] TheLastSidekick:
Haha woah what are you doing to the poor phone man? Mine has held up well with out a screen protector and no scratches. Granted I've only had it for almost 3 weeks. While I don't think these screens are weak at all, I'm almost positive dropping it face down on concrete will damage it..not going to test that though.

That's why I'm waiting for the Ballistic SGMax case series to come out for the Nexus 5 and it will, eventually.

​
[Nexus 5 General] edved:
I'm doing the exact same thing I've done with every other phone which is using the thing! Nothing more. Nothing less.

In that respect it's been a huge letdown for sure, but it's head and shoulders above the Nexus 4.
[Nexus 5 General] Voulterx:
Nice internet speed man :)
[Nexus 5 General] Badd_blood:
Although sharp objects don't scratch the glass, a simple drop on concrete will.
[Nexus 5 General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I use a screen protector because I know over time just 1 grain of sand getting in your pocket isn't impossible. I've had a sh!t ton of phones in my life and each time near the end of life (basically before I want to go out and splurge on a new phone) I take off the screen protector and let it run for a few months. Inevitable, it picks up scratches. My iPhone 5 has scratches after 9 months. It was a work phone so I said screw screen protectors. The NExus 4 I took off the screen protector after Google significantly cut prices over the summer.

My conclusion is that it's not too hard to get your screen scratched over time. However I hate plastic protectors too, so I use the Spigen Glas series. It's solid and it keeps your phone in good shape while feeling good.
[Nexus 5 General] funky_snowman:
"No scratches" to one person doesn't necessarily mean "no scratches" to another. A lot of people simply won't notice common micro scratches. They are often very hard to see, especially with the screen on. Though, once they catch the light a certain way they are an eye sore.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] camo200sx:
So I never had a problem with typing email addresses into sign on fields in chrome, but now the damn thing auto corrects and messes it all up. It even removes the @ sign. Some settings may have been changed but nothing I can see? Anyone experienced this. It's upgraded to KitKat but was working fine after that. Just now I have noticed it. It's completely stock. Thanks
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giraffeteria:
You could go to Settings > Language and Input > Google Keyboard Options > Personal Dictionary and add your email address to that. Then they should be offered as an autocorrect option.

I really recommend SwiftKey. It's pretty cheap, easier to type on, and has always done a great job with inputting my email addresses.
[Moto G Accessories] Taknarosh:
http://www.androidbugle.com/2013/11/motorola-moto-g-official-flip-shell.html

Any idea what the pricing will be in the US/Canada? UK usually pays a premium.
[Moto G Accessories] techguyone:
Can anyone who has this let us know how far back it hinges, does it only open like a book or can you fold it back under the phone.
[Moto G Accessories] xmpunk:
Look at picture 10 in the review link above, it does seem like you can fold it all the way back and hold it that way.
[Moto G Accessories] theArchitektas:
amazon.co.uk/Moto-Flip-Cover-Royal-Blue/dp/B00G3PLUQE

One of the features is "360 degree rotation".
[Moto G Accessories] techguyone:
Thanks guys
[Moto G Accessories] melcali:
I really like the back texture of the flip case. Wish they had regular back cases without the cover.
[Moto G Accessories] audit13:
From the article:

[UPDATE:]We've gotten official word that there will only be three colours available in Canada (Black, White and Royal Blue) and that they will be available from TELUS for $34.99.
[Moto G Accessories] lost101:
The Official Flip Shell is now available from Amazon UK. £18.
[Moto G Accessories] compact_bijou:
Price gouging or wat?
[Moto G Accessories] lost101:
Yeah, that price is almost 1/4 of what I paid for the phone. Hopefully an unofficial Flip Cover with working magnet unlock mechanism will appear as an alternative.
[Moto G Accessories] techguyone:
Only in white though, still waiting for a black one.
[Moto G Accessories] Soerdroid:
This motorola flip cover looks good. Too bad it's hard to find one in Europe. Is there similar product on the market? Maybe something cheaper aka china made.
[Moto G Accessories] wolfen69:
Give it time, I'm sure someone will make a decent knockoff for real cheap.
[Moto G Accessories] Caz42:
Hope so as nearly 20 quid too dear I think.

In the meantime I'm just using a 2 quid flip case from ebay and installed an app to make the phone unlock automatically when I open the case as I hate having to press the power button all the time :good:

There is a nice case on ebay for £5 although it's in China. I'm not allowed to post a link as I'm new here but if you search for this 'Nillkin Fresh PU Leather Skin Cover Hard Back Case for Motorola MOTO G XT1032' you will find it.

It also lock/unlocks the screen which is what I'm looking for.
[Moto G Accessories] eemgee:
The royal blue flip shell is now available on Amazon uk
[Moto G Accessories] ReOmbra:
I like
[Moto G Accessories] dj_m:
Anyone knows what the metal square in the back cover do

I dont recall that the moto g have nfc
[Moto G Accessories] pisherthefisher:
I'm pretty sure that's meant to attract the magnet on the cover to keep the flip case closed.
[Moto G Accessories] Hatrack:
Cleaning

I've got the yellow/green one and love the way it looks, save for one thing: the felt on the inside of the cover is hard to clean. How do you guys get dirt off of it?
[Moto G Accessories] Chespyg:
does anyone know about international shipping for original shells? Thanks