yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Awesome man, although looks like you're on older firmware.

What number did you get? Take a photo of that. I want to know how good my odds are.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kennylam:
It is a developer edition from Kickstarter
[Ornate TrueSmart] jaskru:
Show us your backplate and congrats on getting your device.
[Ornate TrueSmart] yreham:
Tell us about the signals strength please are like any smartphone?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kennylam:
As attched :)

Not able to test with cellular yet since I had only a nano sim card :(

Simple WiFi test was taken instead, the reception may not be good as smartphone, but it still works fine.

The WiFi environment is quite bad, as there are so many overlaps in the tiny 2.4Ghz band, at least 10 other APs are around me. The config of the AP is 802.11n/20Mhz/Band 3, connected to the Internet with a 100Mbps fibre.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Test out

Bluetooth when you have a chance.
[Ornate TrueSmart] pkshr:
Great news. You should post some unboxing pictures or video :laugh:

I am extremely jealous now.

Did you get shipping notification email and/or tracking info?
[Ornate TrueSmart] yreham:
Really need to know if this watch is worth buying does it live up to it's name
[Ornate TrueSmart] alabak2002:
Everybody here is craving for details.

Did you receive a mail when your TS was on its way?

Día you have a tracking number?

Which version is yours?
[Ornate TrueSmart] lordscipio:
ClearD, glad to see you will be working on the Omate. Still rocking my Motoactv from two years ago with all the mods and support you provided to that watch. Many thanks, and looking forward to your contributions to the omate!!!
[Ornate TrueSmart] xyrcncp:
Kudos to those working on this. I've been a bit disappointed at the type of updates from Omate and the delays in shipments, but this type of support here in XDA gives me hope and patience to wait a bit more.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Mmm.. I'm getting stuck trying to flash the AW-414 to the Omate ROM. It does not show up or get recognised in Device manager at all when powered off to install the drivers... Am I being stupid?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Did you install the usb preloader drivers?
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
I was trying to do it as per here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2206421 as referenced here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47090749 ...??
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Run the VCom installer then connect the device. If it does not detect it then double check you connection.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Ok Thanks Loki. Just to confirm that's with the watch off yes?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Yes
[Ornate TrueSmart] Marcel63:
Just wondering : Did the TrueSmart come with or without Google Play and Google Services ?

Everybody before, telling to wait till it arrives because we would be surprised (when complaining about this issue) made me wonder that it would actually would be installed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Don't listen to anyone else but us for now. It does not come with it pre-installed, though there is a hidden file accessible through root privileges that has the services' apks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong... The watch is recognised as USB storage and charges when plugged in. But when powered off, no activity in device manager and not recognised at all in the flash tool. Checked the connections, tried a multitude of cables and as I said everything else works... Any ideas?? :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Press your watch into the casing a little until you hear the familiar beep. You'll hear it if side correctly. Make sure it's firmly seated.

You'll see it pop up under COM and LPT1 ports briefly as a preloader. It takes a few times but once you're done you never have to worry again.

Also use a good USB port, and only use that one port.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Nope... nothing :( Just lights up with the battery picture and not a thing from the laptop.

It's running Windows 7 64-bit if it makes any difference?

Tried on a desktop too, Windows 7 64-bit also though.

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OK I disabled quick boot. Now the screen flashes up like the battery is empty (it's not), it briefly appears in device manager, then disconnects and shows the battery full and that's it..

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OK It's working now! I just plugged it in while the flasher was running and waiting, now to root/mod! Thanks everyone!!

And now it's modded and rooted! Massive thank you again Loki and to everyone else that helped out too! :D Really happy!
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
How do you find the device?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
I think the key was probably turning off quick boot
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Yes indeed, I think that's what did it in the end. Though when actually coming to flash, I had to set the flasher to be searching and *then* plug the watch in. It was recognised and off it went.. Probably says that in the instructions knowing me ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
It does. :p
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I need to write a proper guide for that flashing part. I'm sadly still tied up with making the next release worthy of releasing.

Expect the next release to be more barebones. Pretty much if you can install it via Play Store or OStore it gets removed. Think of it as more Nexus and less Omate. This will give a nice base for other devs and a nice clean MOD/ROM that you make your own.

Still plan to use Smart Launcher though as my only embellishment. May even try to contact them about maybe making a smartwatch version.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I might write a guide soon, as I'm going to need to be VERY specific on my first release.
[Ornate TrueSmart] avands:
Please give us a review

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
First attempt: FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[Ornate TrueSmart] astaroth82:
I finally bought an AW-414 but want to flash the Omate ROM. I've got your master zip but don't know how to flash the rom.

Could you give any clues?

Thank you very much in advance! And thanks for all your effort!:good::good:
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
Also I join the question!
[Ornate TrueSmart] astaroth82:
Finally I've got it, I'm testing the stock rom and seems to be really fluid. What a surprise it came with 4.2.2 as stock.

Will post a review once I get home.
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
i have a AW 414 and i wait the Omate...

how to installa the last Omate Rom in my AW414?

Please!

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i have try to download a lot of time th e archive but:

! C:\Documents and Settings\U6991009\Desktop\AX3\Xda\AW-414 and TrueSmart Nov 30 2013.zip: Unexpected end of archive
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I will put together a full guide but with a 1 month old and trying to fix the bloody firmware it's slow going. At most, I get 1-2hrs at a time to do anything, this includes things like battery life testing so please bear with me.

Til then, those that need to flash the TS firmware can follow THIS guide.

DL'd and extracted just fine for me. Redownload the zip or try using 7Zip.
[Ornate TrueSmart] dragon-tmd:
Installed the MOD which is great. Had to remove Flesky to update it to the latest version. Same procedere for WhatsApp. Both are System-Apps. OUI 2.0 is crap: if you use the buildin launcher, you always have TWO annoying Watchfaces (one after the other).

Battery: 3 hours standby and i lost 12% so far.

In OStore there is a uselful app called: Owatchon: Using that, the display will turn every time you raise the arm while turning the clock.
[Ornate TrueSmart] astaroth82:
Hi Loki!

I'm trying to flash Omate firmware, but I'm not able to install VCOM driver. I've tried both with AW414 switched off and on and neither them makes it possible to install the driver.

Any idea?

I've read that in some devices you have to take out the battery, but I didn't try that yet. I'm in Windows 7 64. How did you install yours?

Thanks!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Have you disabled quick boot in the settings?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
The best thing to do is turn off the watch and have device manager open.

Let the device stay powered down for a little, then plug it in and watch for something to appear in the com port. If you don't, pull the battery out and replace it, then try.

This is quick boot at work, which is great only when you aren't trying to flash stuff.

I'm not familiar enough with their original firmware to know if it can be disabled, but if it can be then do so.
[Ornate TrueSmart] debianist:
I've recieved my Omate TrueSmart Developer Edition 512MB/4GB (plate#0017).

Will try this MOD and send the feedback later tomorrow.

Anyway, we need the wake up gesture feature (or app) to be working. It's little bit weird to push the button every single time when we want to see the hour.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What firmware did yours come with? (just curious)

The wake up apps are battery eaters.
[Ornate TrueSmart] fibroman:
Tell us more about your experience!

What shipping method was used, where do you live, what are your first impressions , etc.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
If we could keep shipping and other non MOD related questions in the regular Omate thread that would be much appreciated
[Ornate TrueSmart] fibroman:
Hi Lokifish. I know you are very busy, but have you had the chance to check out the ZGPAX watch? I would would be interested in knowing your thoughts about how it compares to the truesmart.

I received the ZGPAX watch this week and to me it seems quite capable , but unfortunately it probably will never reach its potential without great modders like yourself working on it!
[Ornate TrueSmart] astaroth82:
Tried as you said except for the battery part. Will try it at weekend, as during week I can not try it at work.

I will report my advance

Thanks!
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
:(

i have download and redownload!

how to install other watchfaces?
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Congratulations to [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish for all your work on True smart back door mods and winning the hackathon thing!

With guys like you helping out we might end up with a decent smart watch eventually.

I'm still waiting for my 1gb/8gb job and can't see that arriving until well into 2014 but I am looking forward to flashing your work.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Links are currently down for reasons. Nothing big and should be back in a day or two.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
If you need a mirror I have loads of spare bandwidth on one of my vps'
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Not a server issue. I running out of cheese. ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Just thought I'd offer in case that was the issue
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Also would it be possible to release a version without root for the standard users?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Trust me. You want it rooted. There are major security enhancements to the build that require root.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
I always root, but some aren't comfortable always having their device rooted. I suppose they could always use OTA rootkeeper and then unroot with supersu if they wanted. Save time making 2 different versions
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
This is not an attack on you but I will simply say this. Not rooting or unrooting is not advised on either the current stock firmware or any ROMs based on the current stock firmware. I cannot go into details at this time but

Consider this my final and only warning.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Take it from me and just listen to him.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
It was just a friendly suggestion that might help allay any fears some new users might have with running a rooted device all the time. I don't share said fears.

In pretty much every device I've had once the required patches are made you tend not to need root again unless you are applying more tis all. If the ts I different then fair enough ignore it. No skin off my nose.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
We can thank the media and noobs for the rooted=evil scares. Not only am I here to dev but also educate. Once it makes it's way into official firmware, I will tell everybody why the need root.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Yeah well you can't blame the media without blaming apple for fanning those flames about jailbreaking being evil!
[Ornate TrueSmart] ferhacker:
Download Link not working

Hi!

When the links will be available? I want to try it :p

Thank you!
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
Hi, thanks for your hard work!

I have some questions though:

- I received my Truesmart today, and already updated to Omate_TrueSmart_20131207.124717_V2.0. How screwed am I?

- I know you're very busy and I don't want to sound entitled, but when can we expect a Linux installer?

In any case, thanks a lot for this!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Shortly. I'm trying not to rage quit over the response to the 1/8 upgrade.

Question. Is SuperSU installed by default now with this OTA?

Don't have the OTA so until then that's on hold.
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
I installed it via 1Mobile Market, but when trying to open it, I got the following message:

There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!

Root Checker also says that the device has not proper root access. Well, looks like I'm screwed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Until I can write a flashing guide and update everything, do not put any personal info on your TS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
Ok, the TS is basically unusable without the Play Store, so I think I won't be touching it until I can flash your rom. Thanks!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I'm not even taking about Play Store. You have to trust me on this. Do not put any personal info on your TS. I have some doctors appointments today but will try to get and updated release out ASAP.
[Ornate TrueSmart] wildcatbn:
Ok so now your starting to scare me. I mean I don't even have this thing yet and I already want to put it in the junk drawer and never look at it the way your talking.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
He's not said anything to warrant that, yet.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Nothing to be afraid over.

Just do as he said, trust me.
[Ornate TrueSmart] attapKia:
woah.

security wise, that bad?

hmmm...i'm not a backer.

but, maybe someone should let the other backers know?

I mean, a few of them already started receiving them and i bet already meddling with it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Internal vs external as primary storage has taken a back seat to fixing other issues and updating the firmware base. It's SPTools version only right now but until we have a custom recovery the SPTools version is recommended anyways.
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
This is probably a stupid question, but is it possible to downgrade to the november version of the Omate firmware through a factory reset, or using the master file? So that I can then install your rom?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You would be flashing a full firmware just to flash another full firmware. Until Omate locks the bootloader, the v1.0.1 ROM can be directly flashed no matter what firmware is on the TS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
This ain't gonna ruin our plans if I flash this is it?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Don't see why it should. You could even swap out that one part and flash it with this.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
There is a strange application in the application list, only 4kb in size with chinese writing as the title that has full rights to everything on the phone. Removing screenlock, editing and sending messages, locations, full network access, etc. Any ideas what this is??

There is also something called 'Location Engineer Mode' with a Bee as a logo which has some scary access rights.

Anyone have any ideas about these?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
'Location Engineer Mode' is a diagnostics app and is nothing to worry about.

The other one I am still not sure but ran into issues after removing it. It may very well be related to updates or Settings or the GPS module in some way but is a part of the factory firmware. If I can make sure it is completely removable without issue then it gone and will consider it one more door closed and locked.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Thanks Loki (for the reply and the update - fantastic work!). As long as you don't think the 4kb app is anything to worry about they I won't too much, what was the security issue with the stock firmware may I ask by the way?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You're welcome. That's what I'm here for. If it gives me any indication of being an issue I'll see if I can kill it with fire. I'm still going to give Omate time to fix the issue, but the clock is running out. Til then, be happy you are on my firmware.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Ah yes, sorry that was a noob question. There's a reason why I couldn't find where you or anyone else had said. Thanks again :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Hey Lokifish--have a beer/coffee on me [Confirmation number: 8AK115189U598942T]
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Did you get yours yet?
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Not yet, I am in the last tranche- 1GB/8GB Dev. Edition- so sometime into 2014, hopefully.

Just appreciate what you are doing, and jealously reading about others happily flashing your work.

I know--it's unusual to donate before using the Dev's work--but I really appreciate the fact that, as soon as I do get the device I will be ready to Rock'n'Roll, thanks to you.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Awesome job Loki! Thanks! I assume SLNotifications are only used for Standalone mode, not for Companion mode while tethered through BT?

Glad to see Smart Launcher is there by default, definitely a must have for 1.54" display! I just need to find a better widget for a smart screen to replace that clock/date above menu flower with something that has time/date and battery % indicator. Also, just a pointer for others, you can assign a click-action to that time/date area on the main screen of Smart Launcher, and having it linked to System Setting will come very handy :) Also, Smart Launcher Pro enables multi page section with widgets, so I would recommend that as well.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I haven't tried it with companion mode. I'm still full up on stuff to do but if somebody want to contact the SL dev that would be awesome. The launcher does support plugins.

I did the workaround and any app that uses the notifications panel will get notifications on the "flower" (I prefer lines myself). I agree about getting the pro version. On mine I have the drawer icons set to 130% giving a decent size but well spaced 3x3.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
What do you need from the Smart Launcher dev? [MENTION=4802798]GinLemon[/MENTION] was last online on XDA on the 14th of December.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Companion plugin and host phone app. 240x240 formatting would be awesome too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Hi Loki, I have a problem with flashing latest 1.01 ROM. Followed your instructions: installed VCOM Drivers, reboot laptop, launch Flash_tool.exe, went to File-> Open Scatter Loading File and selected "MT6572_Android_scatter.txt", while Download agent already had default *.BIN selected in there; click on Download and see progress bar staying at 0%. Made sure TS has quick boot disabled, shut down the smartwatch, popped the cover off, removed battery, put the cover back on to engage contacts, put into charging cradle, hooked it up to laptop, and saw progress bar go to 100% (progress bar in red). Got a pop up from SmartPhone Flash Tool with a message "BROM ERROR : S_FT_DA_NO_RESPONSE (4001)", and that was it. No green circle pop up. Waited for about 5 minutes, reassembled the watch with a battery, and see no changes, obviously.

Any suggestions?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Let me guess. Your on Win8.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
No Win7.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Try it with the battery in. There's a short window between inserting the battery and having it work so it may take a couple tries.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vicer:
Can't download ROM

Hi Loki,

thanks for your efforts!!! I am trying to download your 1.01 ROM preparing myself to receive the TS.. but the download fail.. Have you a mirror? Thanks, Vittorio.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Not until we get a custom recovery. I know it's a pain but really want to maintain control of where the files are downloaded from. Try it again in a minute or two.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
I don't know if this helps Loki but I asked a Chinese friend from work what the writing said for that 4kb mystery app and she said it roughly translates too "factory settings" or "factory reset".
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Thank you. I kind of figured it was related to settings in some way.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Did you try a different usb port?
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Got it to work. In my case it only worked without removing battery, while TS is powered down. And also... my usb port was loose :) When I tried it with battery in, it started to download and got stuck at 93%. I had to re-seat the battery, and try it again holding usb cable by hand. Worked this time!
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
Is it possible to flash this rom using any method or must one use flash_tool.exe that comes with your download? I don't have easy access to a windows computer but already flashed Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 7 from opensuse.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Without a custom recovery, SPTools is pretty much your only option. It's come up a number of times on xda and they only option has been "try it from a VirtualBox Windows install". This ha been met with mixed results.
[Ornate TrueSmart] cbrunos:
Ok thanks I will probably ask a friend to use his computer then!
[Ornate TrueSmart] kennylam:
perform "adb reboot recovery" will boot TS into recovery, and SPTools will work. No need to remove battery :good:
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I never could get that to work from Virtualbox. I'll have to investigate is some more.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Either way, I can confirm that I followed Loki's directions exactly and everything works, just need to keep the battery in and turn the TS off. Also, make sure to Enable SwipeStatusBar and Alternative mode to have pull down notification enabled.

Everything works as described, very easy, just follow Loki's instructions step-by-step (with an exception of not removing battery if you get stuck ;)).
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Are you referring to components supplied with the Omate TS--being loose, that is?? Reason I asked is I read somewhere else about the charging cradle battery pins being out of alignment--just seems as if there are quite a few 'minor' engineering hiccups even at this early stage--with barely half the devices even in the wild.

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To [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish

"I apologize for all the secrecy over the past week and pretty much hounding folks to apply the patch or ROM. This was done so that I minimize the possibility of legal action. This was also to allow Omate the time to address the issue and take some form of appropriate action."

Has Omate addressed this issue, and/or taken any appropriate action--to your knowledge? As soon as I finally get my hands on my device I will, certainly, shoot of an email to the address that you mentioned--the more of us that contact them the better.

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One more for [MENTION=224698]loki[/MENTION]

Please put my mind at rest--where does this quote come from "Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей"

It's sooo familiar.

Wait a minute--it's those Brit nutters--the Pythons, correct?
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
Does this help?

http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/hovercraft.htmYep - Monty Python's Flying Circus.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
UPDATE 18/12/2013 has been added to the top of the OP regarding the patch, this ROM and the security issue.

Yes guys you are correct about the phrase.