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[Moto X General] sm753:
So I know the only option we'll have tomorrow is the Motomaker edition.

Had a few questions I hope someone can answer. I'm with AT&T. Someone said that the T-Mobile version is identical to the developer edition with the exception of voiding warranty when unlocked.

If I buy the T-Mobile version, will I have to unlock it first before I can use it on AT&T's network?

If I buy the AT&T version, all I honestly want is to be able to root and use Wifi tether, will that be an issue? I'm thinking it will not be an issue based on the dev thread, just wanted to confirm. Guess I'd also need to go get a nano-SIM from them too.

Can someone please advise? Thanks!
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
From what I understand, this is correct, except the ATT version also supports two LTE bands which are not used in the USA, and does not support AWS bands for HSPA that T-Mobile service needs where they haven't refarmed their spectrum.

So if you are not traveling outside the USA, the T-Mobile version works just fine for ATT.

There is no need to unlock the boot loader, and the T-Mobile & Dev Editions are SIM unlocked. You will need an ATT Nano SIM to use the X as the T-Mobile version X will come with a T-Mobile Nano sim.

ATT boot loader is locked, and not unlockable. While there is a root method for KK on locked boot loader phones, having the unlocked boot loader gives you flexibility to root in the future if no exploits are found for future roms.

One other thing, I think the ATT X is also SIM locked, and comes with more "bloat" pre-installed.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Doesn't work for commercial addresses... :(
[Moto X General] brorex:
gtg465x, I remember you from the infuse having the best ROMs around for a while. Any chance you will be developing for this device as well?
[Moto X General] calmlydefyinglogic:
Also, you have to have been at your address at least 90 days per customer care/tech support. I just got off the phone with them as I was having issues registering.
[Moto X General] eldamobo:
I'm not in the exact same boat, but I am also not sure what to expect for tomorrow either (not sure if my order is for real or not). And yes - it's unclear what we should do. Ordering something could be a drag in the process itself, and in the outcome as well.

I'd say you've got a pretty good chance in getting it tho. Lots of people are cancelling, and they clearly still have the dev devices around as you can order them full price today.

I'm doubtful I'll hear back from them within the 24-48 hours they quoted me today...
[Moto X General] calmlydefyinglogic:
Today I kind of got an update on the status of my order. The reason I frame it like that is because I couldn't get a direct answer. Basically they told me that my order has already been sent over to the Processing Team and that it should be shipping soon. Also, that I should expect it to be delivered by this Fri-Sat (6th-7th).

I asked for some form of confirmation stating this or simply any email stating the current status of my order.

They said that they would email me something but being that was over 1 hour ago I doubt it. I don't know if this helps anyone but I just needed some kind of update regarding my order. The Order History tab on the Motorola website isn't helpful as it simply states Not Shipped. It at least gives me some kind of time frame and also got to find out I was in the processing phase for whatever that's worth.
[Moto X General] bugsy:
I'm actually switching from an ATT version to a dev edition. Although there is a current method to root 4.4 on ATT you can never guarantee that it will be there for the next version. If you don't need international LTE then the t-mobile or dev edition is the way to go in my opinion. I do travel internationally, but I'm not gone for so long that losing lte for a week or so is that big of a deal.
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
Thanks for this. Just signed up, and I see a package from Fort Worth that was picked up today and will be here Thursday. It is either the phone, or an otterbox I ordered shortly thereafter (or both).

Edit: Both orders in Motorola's order status pages are marked "Not Shipped".
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
I just received a shipping notice from Fedex and nothing from Motorola, not surprised, my GSM Dev Edition will arrive on Thursday!
[Moto X General] bugsy:
I just logged into fedex and see that I have a shipment that was logged today and scheduled for Thursday delivery, Motorola still showing not shipped.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Ordered yesterday? I ordered the same phone yesterday and would be overjoyed to get it Thursday, nothing from Motorola either

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How are you guys checking Fedex without a tracking #?
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Motorola does not send out Fedex notices until 10:40pm EST and when they do it'll most likely end up in your "Updates" section if you use Gmail. Can't use FedEx delivery myself (business address) so I'm hoping I'm with you Thursday guys (ordered in the first batch yesterday) :fingers-crossed:
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
I ordered in the first batch so I think you should get yours on Thursday too.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
I gave in and opened it - but actually it just confirmed my desire to have the Moto X. Not knocking the 5 at all ... the screen is definately awesome, its blazing fast and smooth, but as much as I want a bigger phone for real estate, I just cant get over the form factor (this 5" size phone in general).
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
I have a Fedex account and I am notified whenever a package ships to my address with Fedex.
[Moto X General] sm753:
Right, I travel internationally also but I'm always using wifi when I do since I really don't want to pay for the ridiculous roaming data plans. Thanks again.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Cool never heard of that.
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
Sign up, it's free!
[Moto X General] bugsy:
Use the fedex delivery manager highlighted earlier in the thread. I ordered yesterday in the second batch of GSM Dev devices so I would assume everyone who ordered a dev edition will end up getting them on Thursday.
[Moto X General] kzoodroid:
UPS has the same thing. With FedEx you can re-route packages to a different address for a $5 fee. I had to do this with my order a couple weeks ago as I couldn't put another shipping address on my order, it would only allow my billing address. So once I knew where I was going to be when the package arrived I went and changed the address through FedEx.
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
Doubt it. That was back when I was in college. I had more free time then, surprisingly. Now I have a full time job and a wife. Never say never though.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
:mad: got an account, but when I signed up for the seperate "Fedex Insight" to track by my address, it says it could take up to 3 days to be approved! Likely have the phone by then. Wow my impatience is showing through :o
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
Got a Fedex notification. Thursday by 8PM for me. If I also order a Motomaker edition tomorrow, wonder if it will make it by Saturday.
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
Just use Delivery Manager, sign up for that takes no time, that's how I did it.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Just going with the hope mine is thursday also. Ordered at 11:45 so I should be fine.
[Moto X General] bugsy:
Delivery manager was instantaneous and it only takes a minute or two to sign up.
[Moto X General] johnh123:
Seems like they hit your credit report in some fashion, no? It was asking me about a previous address I had....

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I ordered vzw dev edition yesterday in the second batch. Nothing showing up in my fedex insight tracking yet, but fingers crossed. I really just need it by next Tuesday.
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
Those are just security questions, you don't enter your SS number so no credit report.
[Moto X General] johnh123:
I wonder where they get them - they knew a previous address and sq footage of my home and yard.
[Moto X General] bdpyo:
Did you have any transaction issues?

I think we ordered at the same time "first batch" hoping it comes anyway.
[Moto X General] umasou:
I grabbed a Verizon DE during the second "batch" @ around 11:45AM as well and I see tracking on the Fedex Delivery Manager. Thanks for the heads up :good:
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
Public records I guess, they knew my previous addresses also and my x husbands name and birthday which is a little freaky, in my opinion.

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I ordered at 12:04 EST and no transaction issues for me, only one is the pending charge is $.10 more than the invoice but i will wait to see if it's corrected when it posts. I used a cc so I can dispute it if need be.
[Moto X General] overlord727:
I tried to sign up for the FedEx thing but I accidentally entered the wrong City the first time... Now that I corrected it in my profile, it won't let me sign up for delivery notifications... Ugh. Oh well! Ordered first batch of GSM Dev at 11:48 EST so I should be good!
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
I apparently screwed up my security questions ... or else I`m a victim of credit fraud. Now I`ve exceeded my limited number of attempts. Oh well. Gets here when it's here.
[Moto X General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Fair enough. There is nothing you can do about the size if it is to big for you.
[Moto X General] annndrewww:
I too tried to use Delivery Manager, but it didn't cooperate with the fact I live in an apartment. I ordered a stock black T-Mobile Moto X at 8:59PST so I hope I get it on Thursday as well!
[Moto X General] bdpyo:
If my original dev order does not work due to all the high traffic and problems on their end, I highly doubt I will buy a MotoMaker version and look else where.
[Moto X General] aooga:
Well, it seems that the listened to me :cool:

This is what they should have done from the beginning as I said earlier.
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
So registration will open tomorrow at noon I take it?
[Moto X General] Springy_Minaj:
For those who were questioning delivery status for the dev editions ordered Monday, I signed up for the FedEx Delivery manager as someone previously mentioned and it shows mine will be here Thursday morning.
[Moto X General] 88VDUB:
I ordered a Dev edition as well and it is not showing up on FedEx manager. I still have two charges on my cc as well.
[Moto X General] huntnyc:
I was hoping I would be able to place an order for two customized 32 GB TMoible Moto Xs in the cart at the discounted price to prove to my CC company that there was a valid disount for what I purchased on 11/11/3 so I could get them to refund the difference. However, the way Motorola has set this up now with their codes applying to one phone, I will not be able to prove the discount for my original order that totaled two phones. Still glad I have these phones but wish they had done it a simpler way and had a first class server to handle demand. Still the best phone I have used so far.
[Moto X General] fleadog99:
No go for Fedex Delivery Manager for me. Nothing found. Still have pending transaction of $433.09. Ordered on Monday @1:40 pm CST in Dallas. Too bad I couldn't just go and pick it up.
[Moto X General] calmlydefyinglogic:
That's exactly what I said as I live Lewisville. It would be faster for me to drive the the factory. :silly:
[Moto X General] gi812:
I still have 2 charges as well. And it wouldnt take my address for the Fedex manager
[Moto X General] pookguy88:
ok so what happens to the non-Motomaker T-Mobile one I bought on Monday? I have the order pending (no cancellation email) but it hasn't shipped yet... do I order a new one or what???
[Moto X General] fleadog99:
I just did a quick live chat with Motorola. Probably not any help, but the person said that my order was still "Booked" and I should receive an email once it has shipped.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
they should just take my order now, 1 less costumer to deal with tomorrow :)
[Moto X General] jwis:
for those of you with the fed ex tracker that says it is shipped or at least shows up, does your motorola account have the order as shipped?
[Moto X General] freak4dell:
Hmm...seems like a lot of you are getting the 2 day shipping that was stated. For some reason, both my orders from yesterday shipped with Standard Overnight. One was shipped yesterday and delivered today (or rather, held for me at a FedEx Office), and the other was shipped today and is due for delivery tomorrow.
[Moto X General] calmlydefyinglogic:
That pretty much is the same result from my live chat earlier today. I was informed that my 16GB white T Mobile Moto X is already in the processing phase and "should" ship soon and I "should" have it by Fri-Sat. Though, numerous people have stated that they will be getting theirs on Thurs. So I'm hoping for the best and I'll have it Thurs at some point.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
If they are shipping today, emails should go out 20 minutes :fingers-crossed:
[Moto X General] hlaalu:
I didn't get a shipping notification for my dev edition I ordered on Monday yet, but I did get charged twice for it lol. Aparently a lot of people were doubled charged so hopefully I get a credit back in my account ASAP so I can buy more xmas gifts for people :laugh:
[Moto X General] jonnythan:
Where does that time come from?

My shipment notification on Nov 13 came at 2:09 AM (even though it had gotten picked up by Fedex at 2:56 PM on the 12th).
[Moto X General] freak4dell:
Yup, got my shipment notification at 12:12AM this morning, so they definitely aren't strict about the 10:40PM thing, if that's even a thing at all.
[Moto X General] Jayrod1980:
So if they are doing the registration thing... I wonder what to do with my coupon that is supposed to arrive. For the people that got a phone within the last couple weeks, they are giving us (or me at least) a $150 coupon off on ANYTHING on motorola.com, at least that's what the email says. So in my case, I could actually get a dev version... but why would I when I can get a moto maker t-mobile phone which is the same thing as the gsm dev version?

It's going to be a pain to ship this back to receive the same thing, but christmas is tight, and $150 dollars helps! Hate me if you want, but I tried to cancel my sale less than 9 hours after ordering but it seems you can't cancel your order at all.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
I got the GSM Dev mostly because the warranty is not voided when unlocked, I think that is it's strongest point

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I am interested to know this as well! That would maybe give some hope it has shipped or will soon, because mine still says not shipped and no email.
[Moto X General] johnh123:
Does anyone who ordered in the second wave in the afternoon have any indication that their order is shipping? So far it just seems that those ordered in the morning are shipping.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
I ordered at 11:45am, I think that puts me in the "first wave", and still no sign of shipping. But, I`m not sure if I necessarily SHOULD have signs of shipping? I tried the Fedex thing and botched it - apparently disagreed with where I live.
[Moto X General] jeffreycentex:
It's mostly people in the second wave who are getting shipping notifications. I haven't seen anyone with a VZW Dev in the morning get any indication of shipping.

OR

They are only shipping for people who didn't get double billed....

Nothing for me yet... (Ordered at 10:45 CT)
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Just to be clear, order GSM Dev Ed at 11:45am. Later called to confirm they received order and billed correctly. Billed fine, no doubling.
[Moto X General] mwalt2:
Does the FedEx package require a signature or do they just leave it at your door? FedEx Delivery manager shows that my Verizon DE is actually on its way.
[Moto X General] fleadog99:
I hope I at least get the FedEx tracking working. It sucks that it is sooooo random.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Does your Motorola account show it as shipped though?
[Moto X General] km8j:
I ordered t-mo Moto X and no shipment through FedEx or Moto account. They claim it will ship by tomorrow. Honestly, in today's world, it is inexcusable for something to take longer than one day to ship
[Moto X General] annndrewww:
I'm in the same boat. I'm assuming our delivery dates will be in line with the Dev Editions. Are those that got the Dev Edition seeing the charges as cleared in their accounts?
[Moto X General] mwalt2:
Nope. It has left Fort Worth though according to FedEx :).
[Moto X General] aooga:
No signature required. It just comes in a standard Fedex medium box.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Both my previous orders were at 10pm. A friends order too. I didn't get anything yet though :(
[Moto X General] aooga:
All 3 motomaker phones I've ordered (replacements for defective phones all ordered on different days) shipped between 6PM and 7PM PST. Just some info for those who are waiting.
[Moto X General] SgtSmokdu:
I ordered my vzw de at 1045am. I see y'all keep referencing Ft Worth as ship from point. Is there another assembly plant? My fed ex is showing a shipment coming from Groveport, OH but none of the dates match up and I haven't ordered anything else recently.
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
I was in the first wave and got double billed, and mine has shipped and will be here Thursday according to FedEx. GSM Dev edition.
[Moto X General] jeffreycentex:
It will be Ft Worth...
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Ohio? Did you get a knockoff Mojo Ex? :)
[Moto X General] pookguy88:
how are you all receiving your tracking #s? I didn't get an email or anything saying it was shipped and order status still says not shipped but shipment method says fedex... :confused:
[Moto X General] pj1980:
Is it confirmed that the T-Mobile version of the Moto X ships unlocked and works with LTE on AT&T? I saw one person say so but I want to make sure because I would like to have the T-Mobile version for use on AT&T due to the bootloader being unlocked. Thanks.
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
T-Mobile doesn't do contracts/subsidies, so I'd imagine it's fully unlocked. Hardware is identical to the Dev edition, which gets LTE on AT&T just fine (source, me, uses T-Mo and AT&T).

Bootloader unlock on a T-Mo version will void your warranty. Just go Dev. Best of all worlds, no warranty void for geeky stuff.
[Moto X General] pj1980:
tmobile doesnt do contracts but there phone are still locked... and dev edition is sold out last i checked last night.. thats why i need to know for sure :(
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
The T Mobile X is not carrier locked. They don't even sell the X. It works on AT&T just fine.
[Moto X General] pj1980:
great thank you
[Moto X General] rockingondrums:
T-Mobile Moto X are not sim locked. I've even read that people have swapped sims in the AT&T/VZW versions without issues. So yes, AT&T service will work in a T-Mobile phone. However, all the carriers are all over the place when it comes to LTE bands. They all use different ones so it depends on what chip is used in the phone, or what's enabled or whatever. So in short, buy the version you think you'll need. Don't plan on waiting for refarming or future compatibility. When it's comes to compatibility, the carriers move at a glacial speed. You'll probably be on your 5th phone by the time something you cared about now becomes usable to you in future. Buy what you need/want.
[Moto X General] Mike_jnz:
Finally got Fed Ex delivery notifications to work ... but nothing there :crying:

gsm dev at 11:45am, no double bill
[Moto X General] SgtSmokdu:
Upon further investigation, I may be in trouble with Santa. Seems that my wifey order the new set headers that I've been wanting for the ole mustang! This all happened after installing the FedEx app.
[Moto X General] bugsy:
As of Wednesday morning mine (GSM dev, 2nd batch) still shows as not shipped on motorola.com, however fedex shows it as being shipped with expected delivery on Thursday. I only ordered the phone so it can't be anything other than the phone coming from Motorola.
[Moto X General] Springy_Minaj:
Sign up for FedEx delivery manager and it will track the phone for you
[Moto X General] Coop9:
Verizon Dev edition ordered at 10:50 CST listed as not shipped on Moto's site, and no notifications from FedEx of a pending delivery.

Ordering from Amazon has spoiled me. It's amazing what they can do. They can get a bicycle or 15 different components to build a computer to me in less than 24 hours. And soon, a drone will hunt me down and drop packages in the back of my truck as I drive down the freeway.
[Moto X General] buton2:
I got the Verizon Dev edition on the first wave... and still on the motorola website it says not shipped....

i need to get another phone today for my wife
[Moto X General] kolyan:
I thought it's 4 days to the door even for custom models. I bet they gonna fck this up too.....
[Moto X General] kzoodroid:
If your confirmation email said will take up to 7 days to ship then they will ship it 2 day air some time within that 7 day space of time. Unfortunately 2 day shipping doesn't mean 2 days from when you ordered it like with Amazon Prime. My dev ed took 5 days to ship back on November 19th when there wasn't a rush of orders.
[Moto X General] buton2:
yes it said 7 days... i will just not worry about when i get the phone.... it will arrive some time during the next week....

i will have my last week my my galaxy nexus.....
[Moto X General] Gana21:
redenn barley

i am trying to get one moto X in Europe,

I friend of mine (US based) is happy to assist with the ordering process however i do not want him to wait all day long for the motomaker to start.

In case i register for the promo code myself could i give the code to him and do the rest??

Does the registration user ID has to mach the actual order user?

I asked moto chat help and they had no idea (not a surprise)

They question actually is if they allow trading (sale or sth) of the promo codes or they are user ID locked

Thanks
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Breathe easy guys. Our phones are on the way.

I was able to get my tracking number via chat and it's being delivered tomorrow :victory:

Edit: Left Fort Worth last night at 6pm.
[Moto X General] Cubfan99:
Could be a big resale market for these codes by the scalper/hoarders. Hope they find a way to lock the codes to an individual.
[Moto X General] buton2:
so in your motorola account does it shows as shipped?

i live in fort worth.... so it might be soon...
[Moto X General] bugsy:
No, but fedex picked mine up last night for delivery tomorrow.
[Moto X General] Johmama:
Hm, doing some catching up in this thread since last time I read it, I see that I'm still kind of in a unique position.

I ordered my GSM Dev edition in the first batch on Monday (~11:45 am CST). I got a confirmation email, they charged my account (pending), and all seemed well. Yesterday, I checked my bank account and they released my funds back to me with no cancellation email or anything. I chatted with a rep and got confirmed that my order status is still processing and I can count on receiving a phone without needing to re-order. Well, my bank account still doesn't reflect that I've been charged anything from Motorola. Still no email from Motorola. I'm just sitting here in limbo. Anyone else experiencing this?
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Moto account still shows "Not Shipped" but my delivery date is tomorrow (2-Day).
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I ordered my Dev edition about 2:30 on Monday. Nothing on delivery manager. Charge still pending. I'm wondering if I should order one at noon or not...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Try to chat with someone at Moto. They should be able to give your a tracking number if it's shipped.
[Moto X General] johnh123:
I'm second wave. Just talked to chat-

Juvy: It's not shipped yet. It has been forwarded to our Distribution Team.

Juvy: Shipping timeframe is within 4-5 business days.