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[Nexus 5 General] gee2012:
1, Yes

2. No

3. No

4. Hope not (iSheep), every Franco update offers significant gains both in performance and batterylife. Best kernel out there imo. Do we not update our Nexus too when an upgrade is available. Don`t tinker much in settings besides sound and color tweaks because its allready very good.
[Nexus 5 General] xtcdk:
yeah

hammerhead/yuga/meow/DU/Cyanfox/Beanstak user
[Nexus 5 General] 3DSammy:
1 - Yes

2 - No

3 - No

4 - No, better battery life and color profiles
[Nexus 5 General] Enddo:
i do some pretty extreme tuning to help improve the battery even more. franco likes to have a balance between performance and battery power, but that's for the average user. i dont game on my device so i can fine tune those settings to be even more conservative
[Nexus 5 General] Roland_D:
So I am new to the Nexus 5... just got on T-Mobile from VZW and replaced my S4 Dev Ed with a N5... Very happy with it so far... I am running stock rooted with Xposed + Gravity Box... AWESOME!

I tried a few kernels and so far I'm really liking Bricked-Kernel... I wanted to like franco... but brightness is so dim and I am not sure whether it's customizable... On the other hand with bricked I experience a weird issue, also with brightness... Sometimes the brightness goes all the way up and then slooowly comes back down while there is no changes in ambient light.... Does anybody else experienced this?

Also I'd like to know what kernel + settings are you using to extend battery life without losing anything (I know I want it all but on s4 i kinda achieved it at one point with Ktoonsez Kernel)... I am talking about location, sync etc...

Thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
I've been flashing since the nexus one and sad to say I gave up on a certain kernel maker. They all seem to have bugs of one kind or another ie camera not working etc. If something is not beta it ought to work fully, IMO Trinity, elemental are to great kernels

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 5 General] 3DSammy:
Over the last few days issues with brightness has been address:

- the official r36 release has adjusted the settings to address your complaint

- you can disable the dimming feature in the FKU app

- as you already have Gravity Box installed you can manually set the auto brightness levels. It took me three adjustments over three days to hit the sweet spot on my Nexus devices
[Nexus 5 General] Roland_D:
Thanks, that's a helpful information...

BTW I tried to flash Trinity but I got an error and it looked to me I can only find the 4.4 version when I need 4.4.2... Does anyone have a link if it even exists?

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One more question... I can't find where to disable the dimming feature on FKU... Am I doing something wrong?
[Nexus 5 General] 3DSammy:
Make sure you have updated to the latest FKU. Then the option is Kernel Settings - >Back light Dimmer, it seems to be an opt-in toggle now where it was a default feature originally.
[Nexus 5 General] Roland_D:
Wow dude, I swear yesterday it wasn't there! I might have had an old version... Thank you!
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
I love stock rom but I think the kernel is the weak point. I'm using Elemental ATM. That's for battery. It's also well performing and avaliable in Stock and overclocked flavours

Sent by mobile telephone.

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Totally agree have used them all and came to the same conclusions. Using Elemental ATM, for the power savings and it's stable

Sent by mobile telephone.

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Tried all apart from Franco. Won't try anymore. IMO Elemental is the best.

Wanting what you do with double tap to wake, which is a big battery drain BTW try Trinity. Wanting good battery with tap to wake is an oxymoron.

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 5 General] ibmiz:
I'm stuck between Franco and elemental for battery life. I don't see any difference with the two. Which one to go for?
[Nexus 5 General] Roland_D:
I can't find Trinity for 4.4.2.. Does it exist?
[Nexus 5 General] Tylog:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2540230, :)

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[Nexus 5 General] Catani:
Trinity Kernel Info

Fixed...
[Nexus 5 General] johnannis:
Hey guys I finally came up to a dilemma. I have flashed much kernels in order to find the identical for my needs. But I always go back to the same tow kernels and then back and forth. I can't choose between Franco and Faux.

Oh, I didn't said that what I care most is battery life.

Did anyone had the same decision to take? What was your choose ?
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
all you people that are looking for kernels for battery life, are all doing it wrong. you can have great battery life on any kernel, or terrible battery life. battery life isnt about the kernels, battery life is about how you personally use your phone, how you personally set up your phone, what apps you personally chose to install, and most importantly the quality of your phone/data connection. everything else is just minor when it comes to battery life. so it seems as you all are looking for that magic pill, that doesnt exist, instead of focusing on what is important for battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
I totally agree with that...

I can only get a noticeable battery life when I underclock the CPU (even with stock kernel) and (at the same time) I'm using a good WiFi all the day....or WiFi off and 4/4 bars of signal quality.

Most of the days I have 2/2 bars of signal and almost all the kernels I tried (stock , Franco, trinity, elemental, faux) have similar battery life.

Of course I demand my N5 a lot when the screen is ON....

Because if I use it just for "reading" (poor amount of touches) then in that case a custom kernel (that stays longer at 300Mhz) could make a difference.

But in that case (reading) you can also change the governor of the stock kernel to "interactive" or jusr tune-up the governor and get also a difference.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] D.D.P.:
Mind if I throw in a comment on your post?

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You're absolutely right. I have my kernal/settings all set to performance+. The way I attribute settings and various features are what deplete my battery life. Even the late "camera bug/battery drain" is more so user error than hardware malfunction. When a person whom is an avid social networking user, and uses time stamps, or location stamps on pics, would contribute to a battery drain. Again, that setting is easily reversed.
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
Everyone should run a stock rom then download ElementalX kernel and make a cup of tea and get on with life.

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
why would i want elementalx kernel with my tea, i use a better kernel.
[Nexus 5 General] :
This ^^^^^^

I get amazing and similar battery life on any rom and kernel combination.

But I set my phone up the same after any flash. Its completely about setup and usage. Doesn't matter what rom/kernel you have.

I can get over 24 hours and 6 hours screen time on anything. :)

Thinking one rom or kernel makes your battery better is a complete placebo.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] johnannis:
Hmmm so what do you suggest? Choose the most buttery or best performance kernel?

Or that all kernels are the same at all
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
chose the kernel that fills your personal needs. any kernel can be good for battery, depending on how you personally use your phone, set it up, apps you use, and the quality of your signal. use your device for your enjoyment, that is most important. kernels do differ, but generally they do not decide your battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] :
That would all be opinion. LOL

Most kernels do similar things. Its all about taste and needs I guess.

But a custom kernel is not necessary to get great battery life. That's all I was pointing out.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] D.D.P.:
I agree. I can attribute certain setting controls to save battery life on any kernel. I have done extensive testing on N5's and have even noticed that the "camera bug" is simply the location functionality. It will turn itself on if you don't apply the appropriate settings and mind them after use of the camera. But I can over clock and benchmark 34k 55fps 110triangles and use 1/4 my battery in like 20 minutes. Its all in how you attribute your settings and most kernals serve the same purpose and will prove to provide similar results.
[Nexus 5 General] Mindfield21:
How you use your phone is one thing, how the cpu opperates is another. Sure you can have better battery life if you avoid gaming or remember to switch back to 2G after done browsing, but you can also help achive good numbers by reducing the upper level of your cpu frequency or making the governor less aggressive as well.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
i dont use 2g, ever. neither do i use 3g nor wifi. i use purely 100% lte, and get a minimum of 5h sot every single day. i use my cpu at 2265mhz high, 300mhz low, and made my governor extremely aggressive with ondemand/deadline(up threshold of 98, and sampling rate of 15000 ondemand settings). if you learn how to set up your device properly and avoid the terribly written apps, the potential for great battery life is there, depending on the kind of signal quality around you.
[Nexus 5 General] Mindfield21:
First of, up threshold set to 98 is not extremely aggressive, it is the exact oppossite...

Secondly, are you achieving this results while gaming? Cause if you are just browsing or texting, then sure, underclocking is useless. Your phone will reach top freq for half a sec and then downscale back to the battery friendly frequences. For the gamers though, a kernel that allows you to adjust the cpu/gpu voltages, freq limits and behaviour is exactly what will give them the extra 50-60 minutes in order to feel like their battery life is fair.

Furthermore, if you can manage 5 hours SOT without cpu/gpu tweaking, you will be able to go 6+ hours of SOT with the appropriate tweaking. You may not be interested at such numbers, but some of us are...

Lastly, most users in here are power users, not the kind of smartphone users that cannot understand if an app is draining their battery or not. Most of us are selecting their apps with great attention and after lots of testing so I don't beleive that the average of 4 hours SOT the users of Nexus 5 get is due to terribly written apps... It is due to the small battery capacity, the beast CPU and the aggressive way that google chose that the CPU should behave (and the bad signal depending where you live). Therefore, selecting the right kernel with the right set up can help a lot with the battery life....
[Nexus 5 General] :
I don't disagree with any of that.....but....I get 6 plus hours consistently with zero kernel tweaks....and it doesn't matter the rom or kernel. ;)

Yes...most things are off, and a toggle away if I need them. I greenify, freeze or uninstall anything I don't want, or want running.

K...maybe my 6 could turn to 7 with kernel playing, but I guess I'm good with what I'm getting. Don't need the hassle of instability issues that often come with kernel tweaking gone bad. LOL

And this has been my experience on any phone I've owned. Always get the high end of battery life.

But, to each their own of course. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
not really. that way i have it shoot up faster, and drop faster, i wouldnt call that conservative.

i dont game much. while i do some gaming, i do not consider myself a gamer.

i was like that before, but now im not anymore. with actually trying to get great battery life, i can reach 7h sot, i have before. but really, all i want to do is use my device and enjoy it. im tired of wasting time at a certain cost of my enjoyment of my device, and life.

i feel the opposite, most users here do not understand the relationships between their apps and battery drain. and not only do i see it differently, i read it here on xda every single day.
[Nexus 5 General] Mindfield21:
I can rerpect your way of viewing the whole concept. Instabilities can occur by using custom kernels and depending on the way you use your phone this can be a huge issue. Point given!

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] I understand being tired of tweaking to get the extra 10~15%. For some this result may be important and for others not worthy. I myself am at a point where I try to enjoy my device as it is and avoid tweaking, however I could not help mentioning how kernel tweaking can help battery life since I have wasted way too many hours messing with it and there where times when the results were amazing!

PS. That big up threshold value will prevent your device from upscalling until it reaches almost full CPU load.

In order to get aggressive results you must reduce up threshold big time! I know because I used to own a Note 2 and without reducing this value the device was laggy as hell! :)
[Nexus 5 General] :
Yup...completely agree about the majority of users having no clue why their battery seems bad. I'm very active in the N5 and other phones I own/owned battery threads. And so many people have no idea where to begin when they think their battery life "sucks". LOL

Seems to be a real pitfall of android in general. The concept of what's running and what's chewing your battery is a real issue for android. Sure, I'd keep all the bells and whistles on if I could....but no way am I living with 3 hour screen times and half a day total. Nope. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] :
Hi,

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=19846297&postcount=2

I use 40, and it's really agressive (more time spent at higher CPU freqs)... but it's how I want it, at 98 it's really conservative.

:)
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
i figured out that we are talking conservative/aggressive about kinda the same yet kinda differing things. i see it not sticking around very long as aggressive(where you see it as conservative) ;)

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tweaking the kernel that you are using can get more battery life out of it, i agree. what i was saying is looking for the magic pill(kernel) that will automatically make your battery life amazing is a lost cause, because that magic pill doesnt exist. you can get great battery life on any kernel, you just have to set yourself up right.

oh, and about the aggressive/passive, look at my reply above. its just how we look at the same thing, and call it differently :)
[Nexus 5 General] japie06:
Does anyone else here have problems with video playback with Franco kernel? I have it with r36 and r37.
[Nexus 5 General] Guzanni:
I do have those problems, yes. r37

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] lesp4ul:
What kind of problem, stutter or not playing at all?
[Nexus 5 General] japie06:
The image is not playing but I can hear the audio.
[Nexus 5 General] lesp4ul:
I don't know but my mp4, avi mpeg, 20Mbps MKV DTS and AC-3, and youtube HD play fine with MX Player (HW+) :cyclops:
[Nexus 5 General] Guzanni:
I can hear the sound, but the video itself pauses and doesn't continue. Also, the app freezes completely. I have to kill the app after that.
[Nexus 5 General] Bombe93:
Hi,

which do you think is the best kernel between Linaro kernel and Franco?

I installed Linaro but consumes a lot of battery :/

I'm looking for advice!

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] sumanthsv:
My experience - Franco!

In my experience I have had a great time so far with Franco Kernel! (Almost 4 months now)!

Particularly like the functionality for FKU Color Control functionality that is an added + with Franco!
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
neither
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Trinity forever
[Nexus 5 General] Bombe93:
Thanks for the replies.

If I want to change the kernel, just flash in recovery the new kernel or i must flash a rom?
[Nexus 5 General] gee2012:
Just flash a zip in recovery or a .img file in fastboot or use Flashify for both files.
[Nexus 5 General] D.D.P.:
I'm posting this just for fun. I see a lot of people recommend specific combinations and setting parameters, so here's what the Elemental X team had to say :)

http://hackerromteam.de/Forum/showthread.php?p=7238
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
Hi guys,

I know that elementalx kernel and Trinity kernel are fastest kernel among different kernels. But both of them could only last around 4 hours sot?,do you think that the sot is too short?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
It depends on your own usage.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
I draw the conclusion is based on my identical usage. I love elementalx kernel but I have to use Franco kernel due to the battery factor.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
They might just have different default settings. I doubt a kernel would influence how the screen works so its just down to your own usage and wakelocks. Honestly I've felt no difference across kernels, I used ElementalX for 2 weeks and it felt the same, I used Franco prior to that and it didn't feel different when using ElementalX, now using Trinity and it seems just fine.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
May I know the correct process for flashing different kernels? If I am on slimka and is using Franco kernel, I want to use the elementalx kernel. I will follow below steps:

1. Flash the slimkat ROM zip file again.

2. Flash new kernel.

I know that most of us just flash on the top of existing kernel. But I would like to know the correct procedure. Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] :
Hi,

[MENTION=5720753]choosetobelieve[/MENTION], yes it's the correct procedure, the "best" correct procedure I would say. Franco kernel modify some system files so by dirty flashing your rom they are restored and you can flash another kernel. It could avoid some weird behavior with another kernel.

You can also flash your new kernel on top, but for example in the ElementalX thread it is recommended to dirty flash your rom then...
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
Thanks, Will reflashing the ROM zip file cause any issue with my data. Dirty flash means that flash something without doing factory reset. Am I right?
[Nexus 5 General] :
Wipe only Dalvik cache and cache partition, that's all.
[Nexus 5 General] cybersim:
I'm on stock and plan to flash ElementalX kernel. Do I need to dirty flash stock before I flash ElementalX kernel ?
[Nexus 5 General] Tylog:
No

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[Nexus 5 General] BATZ DA LOCC:
Uber till the world blow
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
Which kernel us better between Elemental x and urber?
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
try them both out and you tell us.

the thing is, there is no best kernel. best is different for everyone. every person has differing needs and wants, and whats best to one could be worst to another. the only way for you to know which is best for you is to try both of them.
[Nexus 5 General] Gipjoe:
Well said.:good: The only issues is that a good amount of "Preformance" is a placebo. Stability for me is the biggest factor. Nothing comes after that.
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
My view is that Trinity Kernel is the fastest kernel but very short battery life. Elemental x Kernel is slight slower but better battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Trinity is a performance kernel. When you run your phone intensively it'll use more battery, but it'll perform better, too. Otherwise, it's exactly the same as any other with minor variation.
[Nexus 5 General] akashjavali:
best kernel

i feel elementx v36 is best just give a try ::angel::o
[Nexus 5 General] :
I usually use the ROMs kernels. For my use, I see no real noticeable advantage to custom kernels...tho I appreciate the options they have and the customization available....I just don't kernel tweak.

And I can get 24plus a charge with 6 hours screen time on any ROM/kernel combo. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] choosetobelieve:
Achieving 6 sot on trinity kernel is a challenge if the stand by time is 24 hours.
[Nexus 5 General] :
If its tuned for performance, I would imagine it would be. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] AndrasLOHF:
I can do with or without most all the custom kernels options honestly. I've found my usage pattern and the apps I have installed on my phone make more of a difference than any kernel I've ever used on any phone I've used. That being said..I cannot use any Nexus 5 kernel that does not have color control. I hate the washed out colors of stock.
[Nexus 5 General] KaSrAHiDe:
HELP !!

Hi guys,

I'm new here & right now I'm running stock Rom 4.4.2 with Trinity kernel on my N5.

Trinity kernel is one of the best in CPU & GPU overclocking in my opinion but my major problem with it is my mobile gets overheat so fast in

normal usage like surfing the web,check emails and etc. actually overheated so FAST after running some games with high GPU performance!

Could you please tell me which kernel hasn't any overheating issues,lag in games,battery friendly(too important to me) ... !?
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
by "overheat", you mean what temperatures?
[Nexus 5 General] KaSrAHiDe:
Yes high CPU/battery temperature
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
high is what, i asked for the temp(cpu temp, not battery). for someone 40C is high, for someone else, 60C is still low. what cpu temps do you see when normally using your device? not when playing gpu/cpu intensive games, because then it is normal to see temps in the 70C+ area.
[Nexus 5 General] KaSrAHiDe:
for me in normal using (on stock kernel) something around 30-40C also 45C is Ok but more than this my mobile gets too hot but already on Trinity kernel with normal using it's around 45-50C and even more !!

I hadn't any temp issues in normal using (like web surfing,checking emails & ...) on Stock kernel that already I've on Trinity kernel

so sorry for my bad Eng
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
well, 37C is the average temp of a human body, and 45C isnt far from there. 45C would still be considered cool even. seeing temps in the 60C+n range is still considered normal, so you are well within normal range. feel is a terrible way to measure temp, and extremely inaccurate. try this experiment.. get 3 cups of water, one cold, one hot, and one room temp. put one hand in the hot water, and the other in the cold water, for 1 minute. now put them both in the room temp water at the same time. the hand that was in the cold water will feel the room temp water as hot, and the hand that was in the hot water will feel the room temp water as cold. while both hands are in the same cup of water, they both "feel" different temps. what feel really does is get you a difference of what you are using to feel with, and the object felt. it doesnt actually give you any kind of accurate measurement.
[Nexus 5 General] simonarturo:
So far I've tried Franco and ElementalX's kernels. Without changing any settings, the latter has better battery life (my main concern in a kernel) but introduces slight lag during regular use. Now, by pairing Franco with FKU (paid version) and fiddling with Per App Modes, I can actually get pretty good battery life (between 4 and 5 hours SOT in +10 hours without charging) with no noticeable lag. I'm using Franco r54 with said Per App Modes and I'm pretty happy with the overall performance.
[Nexus 5 General] SacredDeviL666:
UBER for sure :cowboy::cowboy::cowboy::cowboy::cowboy:
[Nexus 5 General] D.D.P.:
It really is irrelevant what kernel you're using. And over clocking, by rumor, is bad. However, it is not. But if you're setting your kernel frequencies too high and your minimum frequency is high, it will run all cores all the time. If you do like your clock speeds, set a max and decrease your minimum and set your screen off frequency even lover. That should help.