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[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I wasn't trying to be cocky, i was simply wondering why were discussing other devices on our forum, and why i as a sprint user should care about atts phone... I said i appreciated the work... This is why I don't ask questions...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] mcog:
Take the whining to the general Q&A page and leave the adults to enjoy ourselves. We are already losing great devs to newer devices, and my upgrade is a long ways out so show a little respect for the devs who are volunteering their free time to post for us.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
Lol you guys are doing more whining about my question than I was complaining... I don't care if other devices get updated first or if my device ever gets updated again, I care if that's what I read about when I'm looking at a forum for MY device...

Its great for troubleshooting and discussion to have 5 roms, and 4 devices, on the same thread...

I cant even find Carbon without searching, as its not in the op anywhere... Just a little organization...

Anyways... Last youll hear from me
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
"I cant even find Carbon without searching, as its not in the op anywhere... Just a little organization..."

We have lives you know. I'm a single father who works, and puts a lot of time into this hobby of mine and also build for 2 other models that I don't need to..... just to hear some snobby little brat whine about not getting what they want. I'm also sick and it's the holidays. Things will get updated when they get updated. Seriously, pull your head out of your arse and get over it.

This is a developer forum made for developers. Hence "XDA-DEVELOPERS". Developers are not here to cater to you, make your life easier, obey your wishes ect. This forum is a place for developers to collaborate. You just have the privilege of using what we work on. Be happy you have that privilege, and don't bite that hand that feeds.

This has already gone far beyond off-topic. So, everyone just move on, no use arguing over someones self-entitlement anymore. The /ignore feature works great. This troll is now ignored by me, so he won't get any support from me. :p
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
2c
[Sprint LG Optimus G] FcoEnrique:
What a clown! -_-
[Sprint LG Optimus G] iamterence:
[MENTION=4385434]MiZrY[/MENTION], please don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch for us. I, for one, love all of the work you've done for us and other devices, and I'm pretty sure everybody else, even including the troll, does as well. So if you can, please, just look past this and don't make us all suffer! Happy holidays bro <3
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I never said I wasn't appreciative, and sorry if I'm wrong for thinking that having things more organized is a bad thing... Whatever...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] I-IoLLoW:
With the holidays being so busy I seem to have missed a lot. To quote Super Troopers - "Mother of God....."

If you guys ever need any help updating/making/maintaining threads I'm open to helping you out. I'm not a programmer, but I still want to contribute. I wouldn't feel like a decent person if I didn't try to give back. You don't even have an ls970 and yet you still build for us. I'm genuinely grateful for your hard work. Also hope you feel better!

And this....I agree with 110%. :)
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
I'm not going anywhere. :)

I should just ignore people when they are demanding, but I tend to voice my opinion and have no issues doing so when I feel the need. However, no one will ever piss me off or get me emotional from a forum and force me to quit. I like sharing what I'm working on.

The problem I do have though is XDA is getting flooded with people that feel that think they can do, say and demand whatever they like. Like all the devs here actually owe them something. This is exactly why the PSX developers no longer use XDA. They got tired of dealing with people coming to a developer forum and not following the rules, demanding, not reading, asking the same question that's been answered time and time again, not using the search feature, saying something is broken when it was just user failure ect.

Like I said though, I'm not going anywhere. It just saddens me that many people come to XDA thinking that anyone who posts any work in here is supposed to cater to them. I don't mind suggestions and such, but at least make it sincere and not some whinny demanding unnecessary BS. Really awesome developers are leaving XDA because of this, and I don't want them to leave... I learn from them!

Happy Holiday's to you all as well. I'll have some updates soon enough, and one of us will eventually update the OP.... but we will do it on our time. :p

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That's good to know... we can probably figure something out. Thanks :good:
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I didn't demand a thing, I asked why everything was in the same thread, because its not how its usually done, most times Roms and phones are handled separately...If you want to interpret that as a demand, go right ahead. I asked a question and immediately got told if you don't like it don't read it...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] iamterence:
You know, I actually understand where you're coming from, and I do know what you were trying to do, but I honestly think that most people on XDA (not just this section of the forum, but in general) don't realize that the problem lies in the way you come at people. I've seen countless sh*tstorms on these forums from just observing how people (Like yourself, no offense) would ask a totally innocent question in general, but come off as extremely rude or demanding. I know that's not what you meant, but that's how it looks. And then that's when other people start get all riled up and start going at each other, instead of just taking a step back and civilizing themselves. This goes for both offense AND defense. So, for what it's worth, you're all good with me. Just realize next time how you ask things. Nobody knows you personally, so what you think is a harmless question in your mind by nature, others might think you're an asshole.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I get that, I was only trying to make things easier to understand for everyone... Well, don't blame anyone for asking repeat questions or where to find anything, or ask about bugs our devs can't even test... Why you would want to have 5 roms and 3 devices on one thread is beyond me... I'm done following this thread I think, very little is even said about the device I own

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Also so stuff like this doesn’t happen... Just saying...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] mcog:
Smorgasbord of ROMs???? Do you need to Google the definition?? Just saying,
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
So your suggestion is that we have to follow and support 15 threads? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlv7Bp-L2MM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

What a waste of time! Our goal is to provide a place for users of all variants to run a multitude of different roms from one location and also to help us support them. The more threads we have to maintain, the less time we have to work on the stuff that matters, the Roms. When you make your own Roms, you can decide how to format them. Until then, it's up to Michael and I. Mmkay pumpkin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZyT6Drtl7A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
You were not trying to sound like a d1ck.... but you came off like one. I do not respond well to such things. I especially do not respond well when someone is basically telling me to do more work, which is essentially what you wanted. Having geeb in YOUR geespr forum inconveniences you. Well... sorry but I'm not going to make a thread for every ROM for each model, that's more work then you obviously understand. It's convenient for me and xbox to keep all these ROMs for all models in one thread. The less babysitting we have to do the more work we can put into ROMs and kernels. More threads = more babysitting. (no offense to anyone with the babysitting thing :p) We are the ones doing the work, so we will do what is convenient for us.

Also you complained that your model gets everything last... well I hate to break it to you, but every time I've posted any of my work here, it's been for all 3 models at the same time. Xbox posts geespr first.... because that's the device he has and it takes him longer during the build process so he can't build for all 3 within a few hours and post them together. So saying that geespr gets everything last, from xbox and myself... is pure BS.

As for organization.... well the current builds that are in the OP are where we want them. They are stable. The reason I have not added Carbon is the current build I posted is not complete, so I'm not going to throw it up in the OP. The build I have for Carbon is more of a test build. The Carbon that is building right now on my PC, will probably get added to the OP, as it is more complete. If you can't find Carbon in the thread... that's not my problem.

Convenient for us > convenient for you

We will eventually catch up and get things more organized... just have some patience man. If you can't have patience, at least suggest in a more friendly manner or send one of us a PM or something.

Seriously though.... this whole discussion just needs to end. If you have an issue with what I say, just send me a PM and we can discuss it like adults.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
No, I'm familiar with the term, the concept I find lacking... The point of a rom thread is for discussion and troubleshooting, the reason each device has a specific forum, and the ability to make as many threads for different roms as possible... Combining everything in a single thread leaves the user to state which phone, rom, variant any time they post. We have to read through pages of information that has nothing to do with the rom were using, or even the phone that this forum is for

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Thank you for actually answering me instead of basically telling me to **** off...

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Your doing the same amount of baby sitting, just making it harder on yourself because you either need someone to tell you straight out what they are using, or you need to ask. If there was a bug fix for a Rom sixty pages ago, because there is other devices info there too, you'll get more repeat questions...

Your probably right about multiple threads though, you guys can't even keep the one updated
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
I think you're missing the entire point of XDA. XDA was created to facilitate collaboration between developers to make a device run better and in ways that the manufacturer did not intend. Without Xda or a similar service, Michael and I would never have met and been able to help each other create a better optimus g. In the process, we have shared our work to help others make their devices better. If you don't like it, there's the door. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPIyKJdfvDc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

There's also a complaint box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D68-vIptwSU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This is the way we choose to do things here and for now and the near future, we have no plans to change that.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
So be it, and thanks for letting me know how you guys appreciate suggestions...

Keep up the good work, and fantastic service...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
bwahaha!! wow, what is wrong with you? Are you drunk or something?

ooooooo caught you before your attempt at a hurtful remark was edited.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
These are not suggestions. You are an entitled asshole. You're telling us what to do and that our way is wrong. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on your first couple posts, as has iamterence, but you didn't deserve it. We'll do things how we want to do them. We are open to suggestions and have done many of the Roms people have suggested, but you think your time is more important than ours and I am afraid you're mistaken. Good day sir.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQYm36Gpeg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I don't even use one of your roms, or kernels, so it isn't even for my benefits. If you want to have a pile of everything in one place, by all means...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Then why are you here? Just to tell us what we're doing isn't up to your standards?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
Ya, realized it was pretty dickish... I'm not intending to be an asshole, and do appreciate the work you guys have done...

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I asked a question, and only recently got a response that wasn't get the **** out or your an asshole, seems to have changed to that though...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Your first question was fairly harmless, but your responses after that were unacceptable, which is why I stepped in. Whether that was your intention or not, you DID come off as an asshole in the most recent posts. Did we overreact? Maybe, but the fact of the matter is that that kind of behavior will not be tolerated here. Michael and I are open to suggestions, but telling us that what we are doing is wrong is arrogant and immature.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
Ya, because I got told don't like it, get out. The response I got was the problem sir... Really mature conversation... I got treated like my suggestion meant nothing, from the very first response... Literally said don't like it get out... And I get blamed when I get treated by an asshole response, **** this...

Nice chat, been following your work since the Epic... Lost a fan today though, later
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
As I said before, I did not reply until much later on when you were saying that our way is wrong, which is when I got defensive. It's not fair to judge me based on anyone's actions but my own.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
When all else fails, exaggerate and play the poor innocent victim. Good show.

Twice now you have posted some pretty nasty stuff as well and edited it later.... but yet.... poor you.

Waste of time you are.... I'm sorry that I un-ignored you.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
You also said if I don't like it, there's the door... I accept your offer, humbly

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I edited it because it was in bad taste, at least I acknowledged it...

I didn't edit my first question, nor your first response... Which is where you were an asshole to someone who asked a question...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Much like Yoda you are.

Do or do not, there is no try.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] FcoEnrique:
WTF!? seriously? xD

Guys lets ignore this dude, I think that he has some mental problems...

"Don't feed the troll" ... :D
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
No need to ignore, I'm not responding again
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
It started to get entertaining.... but I agree. :p
[Sprint LG Optimus G] driodmaster92:
I have experienced multi-thread for multi-variants what a waste of time it is...and it creates a lot of mess too
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
Me too, but hell, they know what there doing apparently...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Maestertk:
So, totally off-topic, and meaning no disrespect to the devs here as their work is my favorite, but I was bouncing around the interwebs and found out whatever a BAM Rom is, apparently supports us. Found em on Goo.im. Anyone had any experience? Kinda killing time flashing it while waiting for the Purity to come out =P
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
So much for that.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Btw, back on topic, those of you with the 918mhz stuck issue, trickstermod appears to be broken. Kcontrol, made by Dennis Rassman, the developer who created our hotplugging implementation (controls cores and frequencies based on various factors), msm-mpdecision seems to work fine. It is $2.79, but that appears to be the best option for now.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] FcoEnrique:
I knew that there was something wrong :silly: .. but, there's two 4.4 ROMS where I don't have the problem, Beanstalk and CM11, and I even using a e975 kernel(F93 Kernel) in my LS970 with CM11 and it's going fine.

Looking forward to Purity and PSX/Carbon with the new kernel :good:
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
Indeed..... just make sure to set the minimum frequency. The settings should all stick, works great for me so far.

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It's probably the way the mpd and/or hotplug driver is implemented into the kernel. I've been messing with several kernels lately and there are different setups. Some will get cores that will get stuck at 918, some won't.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
I'll have to look into that. Can you link it here? Certainly not offending us by using or mentioning other Roms or kernels here. Kernel porting was a nightmare for me, but I'm more than happy to take suggestions for new features or if something is better from hieu's sources than chads, I can add that or switch to hieu's sources.

As we've seen through the events of the day, there is a right and a wrong way to give feedback. Telling me our Roms suck and bam is way better would not help us at all, but if you tell us how we can improve our projects, our ears are open.

Assuming this is the same guy as jellybam (iGio90), don't count on it booting. For awhile, he posted threads here on Xda of untested builds of which many did not boot.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] ThatKawaiiGuy:
Here

http://goo.im/devs/BAM/ls970

Searching "LS970" on goo.im did the trick, is the first result that pops up.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Maestertk:
http://goo.im/devs/BAM/ls970

There's the link, and it is the same guy (though he seems to have a team now), but it does boot and most of the features work, however it seems a little laggy sometimes. Camera auto-focus works, and wifi seems slow, but that may be due to my syncing of aokp and cm (gonna eventually try to throw my hat into the building scene)
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
These use different hotplug methods. Stock kernels, stock nexus kernels, and cm kernels use the mpdecision binary from Qualcomm. This is unconfigurable, closed source, and offers suboptimal performance. Faux uses intelliplug. Franco uses autohotplug. Showp, Chad, and ak use msm-mpdecision, not to be confused with the binary. If another hotplug driver is better, I am more than willing to switch, but msm-mpdec has worked well for me.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
If you need help, add me on hangouts. Same to anyone looking to get started.

Xboxlover360@gmail.com
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
Willing to bet it's using gproj sources.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
It is. Ls970 codename and camera focus (and lag) working give that away.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Maestertk:
Would Chad's be the most current and best used sources? I see his, g3tsum, houst0n, and teamplaceholder on git.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
Lol thats funny, I ported JellyBam for the Epic ages ago
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Teamplaceholder is not updated for KitKat. It had great performance, but we never got camera working. G3tsum is just houst0nn's second git. Chad's is most updated though, but hieu's is good too supposedly. I haven't tried hieu's KitKat sources yet.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
You won't be able to flash a mako based kernel over a gproj kernel. Well you can.... but it won't boot.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
I don't think I ever ran jelly bam, but I read I the rd forum that iGio, the main developer, was stealing sources from bluefa1con, the PAC main developer at the time and also sent death threats on Twitter. That really turned me off of it, but supposedly, it combines the best of all Roms.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
hieu's kernel is solid. It's basically the same as his previous kernels, just updated for kitkat. However there is an issue with intellidemand, which I think I'm the only one at the moment that's aware of. He changed the frequencies for the kernel, but didn't change them for intellidemand. So, intellidemand references to a frequency that is not there. Which may cause the phone to reboot if intellidemand tries to go for that frequency that's not there.

It was causing reboots on the kernel I made anyways... I used his voltage/frequency and intellidemand, so I'm assuming the same thing would happen on his kernel.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] davevinci:
It's a PAC rip-off.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] goast:
Don't drag me into this, some of those questions still get asked even in a thread with just one ROM because people don't say what nightly they are on...being vague about a problem is being vague no matter whether a thread is "unorganized" or not
[Sprint LG Optimus G] ThatKawaiiGuy:
I was worried you were gonna say that, guess it offers a okay 4.4 PAC until the legit one is out
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jamaicamike:
Love the ROMs how do I flash one tho I tried and keep failing
[Sprint LG Optimus G] engine95:
You have to use the kk recoveries. octhrope has it in the TWRP thread. Also in the root guide.

As for the GAPPS I think most use Banks core.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] I-IoLLoW:
BAM was the first rom I installed that worked perfectly without issues. Until that point, CM, AOKP, everything I had installed on the ls970 had some issue or had to do some tweaking to get it to work. I flash a lot of roms so I rarely stick with one but JellyBAM was pretty sweet for this phone. ;) This was months ago, and while they still support the ls970, Im not sure the build I used is still up for download. I never went back to BAM after that because we have so many awesome devs here that sometimes it's hard to keep up and choose a favorite. It was also at a time when some of the roms for this phone werent completely stable but now most of the 4.3 roms are and even a large portion of the 4.4(like the ones in this thread).

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I use Banks core when I can(it's smaller and I dont need all the added google stuff), however, depending on the rom you may want to use Banks standard. One of the PSX builds I had issues with the launcher because I was using core instead of standard.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
Vanir for GEEB just built. It is using the same sources as the GEESPR for now (a week old, just so I can provide a consistent experience and less confusion). I will do GEEHRC next and resync with the latest sources after that.

Uploading GEEB now.

Sorry for the wait.

Took 9 2/3 hours to build.

EDIT: Here it is.

http://d-h.st/vBY

Let me know how it is.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] ThatKawaiiGuy:
Does it work with GEESPR?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Kevinjoa:
Why you want to flash geeb rom if there is same rom for geespr ??

Just flash geespr rom. :P ;)
[Sprint LG Optimus G] xboxfanj:
No. It's exactly the same as last week's geespr build, but for GEEB (external SD, 8MP camera, etc.). I did not update to VANIR's newest sources (whatever they've changed in the last week) for consistency and less confusion.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] ThatKawaiiGuy:
Where's the Geespr one? Didn't see it, sorry.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] I-IoLLoW:
http://d-h.st/HDW
[Sprint LG Optimus G] cyraxx84:
[MENTION=4003363]xboxfanj[/MENTION] so your Vanir builds are based on mako sources and official still on gproj, or i am understood something wrong?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] nwsteeze:
How is Vanir running?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] saramon:
I tried Bam, it wouldn't flash, any one know which recovery to use, I tried two...
[Sprint LG Optimus G] goast:
Could you link that specific recovery I have a 4.4 one a 2.6.3.0 one and one labeled geespre...none of those would flash bam
[Sprint LG Optimus G] engine95:
I don't know if it will work with BAM, but there's 2 ways to get it. One is to install through FreeGee. Or Shel's DL here. http://downloads.codefi.re/shelnutt2/freegee/LG-LS970/