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[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Those terms are not applied universally the same way, even by ROM builders/devs. Not to scare you off but in this world everything is forever beta/experimental, even after it moves from alpha. Especially when it comes to the TouchPad.

However CM does provide a basis for the definition of "official" vs "unofficial"

To me a stable ROM version would suggest that EVERYTHING (hardware/OS/apps) are operating as they should (as expected) AND nothing much is expected to change on a daily basis except for minor bug or security fixes.

I suggest the functions which are supported by Milaq's current CM11-3.0 kernel ROM build, are indeed "stable". However, we hope additional significant changes will be coming soon, e.g. addition of camera, video gpu/hw acceleration, etc

The question really should be "is it good enough to be your daily driver" and how do "you" personally define what's good enough.

For me, I say YES CM11-3.0 kernel is now my daily driver on my TouchPad. YMMV.

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If history is any indicator, I doubt that is how it will happen for CM11. Meaning, there are no milestones in the tenderloin ROM world, just nightlies.That is until nightlies become weeklies, until weeklies become just occasional updates, until no more updates, until you get old and grey and your teeth fall out.

When Android 4.5/Lollipop (or whatever the next version that comes out is titled), ROM builders will build a new ROM (CM12?), just as was done when CM10 and CM11 ROMS were built when JellyBean and KitKat were released. And then of course a clean install is the expected recommendation, for such major upgrades, But you can restore your data from your backups, which is standard procedure. But of course, if you choose, you can stay with the nightlies or weeklies (or no updates) for your current ROM. Choice is good.
[TouchPad Development] na_tra:
hi all:

does this built have OC cpu? and is it stable enough to play android games and youtube? I only care about those things, nothing else.

TIA
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Latest device commit for Milaq's CM11-2.0 kernel ROM shows "include milaq vendor stuff". Possibly related to camera support? Or move to 3.4 kernel?

Here are my sleep drain averages for four recent nightlies:

01/30 -5mA

02/01 -10mA

02/02 -15mA

02/03 -31mA

(BT & wifi off and all apps closed except for battery monitor polling)

Going backwards! I've skipped the 02/04 and 02/05 nightlies. Any updated battery drain reports?

Testing the TouchStone charger now. Battery monitor is showing a 680-700mA charge rate while on Touchstone, with screen on and BT/wifi off and all the apps closed. Will see how it goes when asleep.
[TouchPad Development] Stryeguy:
Yes, games play just fine. YouTube app works fine, CPU maxes @ 1512 Mhz
[TouchPad Development] mpgrimm2:
Roland's Data Media Guide basically recommends a first time install of Milaq's CM10.2 Data Media build because it was quite stable/well rounded at the time and put together an install pack, directions to use with AcmeInstaller5M, and some other tidbits for getting everything resized . One should be able to more easily move to the other data media builds/recoveries from there.

I believe he is referring to the WIPE DATA/FACTORY RESET option, which on a "data/media" based recovery has been reported previously to selectively delete files from the /data partition without deleting the emulated /data/media/sdcard0 . TWRP's explanation from one of the OP's is good too.

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[TouchPad Development] Bristow69:
Hi !

I've just flashed the last nightly (0205) with clockworkmod sideload.

Thanks for the BT support :D

I have 2 bugs :

- a new one : when i want to go to apps panel, i have a trebuchet error and touchpad come again to desktop. So, apps menu is not accessible :/

- limited users profiles don't work. When i click on it, i have only a blank screen.

Thanks Milaq for your job !
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Confirmed.. Trebuchet has stopped when entering the apps menu (Settings works fine if you have a wiget on the home screen) and Confirmed restricted profiles blank screen.. Home Key, recent apps and return keys work (sometimes laggy).

Thanks for all the hard work Milaq.. Much appreciated
[TouchPad Development] Nightmare[ITA]:
Hi,

i need some quick help: i wanted to update my touchpad to 4.4 from 4.0.4. i uninstalled and reinstalled android completly, because of the partition sizes. then i installed the evervolv 4.3.3 build included in the tutorial thread. everything works. i want to use the cm11 rom of milaq, so i installed the CMW6 included in the thread. i restarted the pad and did a full wipe +cache and dalvik cache. then i wanted to install the rom, but the recovery can't browse the sdcard. there's only the /0/cyanogenmod folder. am i missing something?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Bristow69:
Yes. On ES Explorer you have to activate root access (find the yes / no button) to see /data/media/0. After that, you will find your ROM.

For this ROM, be careful to the partition layout, at least 600 mb for /system.
[TouchPad Development] Nightmare[ITA]:
But i'm not searching it with ES, i'm searching the rom with the Recovery included here.
[TouchPad Development] Bristow69:
I know but i haved the same problem : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2620917.

If you don't manage, you can use sideload with adb-tools.

On Ubuntu, it' s pretty easy : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49924613&postcount=4
[TouchPad Development] laspero:
Yes you are missing something. See the discussions about external_sd being a legacy partition.

Milaq's CM11 and CM10.2 (and his CWM recoveries) do not mount the WebOS /media partition formerly known in Android as /external_sd

You will need to sideload the ROM, which means you will have to connect the USB cable and install the file located on your PC using ADB. If you search for sideload and legacy in this thread you will find lots of people having the same issue as you.

Choose install from ADB Sideload in CWM. On your Computer type in a terminal: adb sideload image.zip, where image.zip is the file you like to flash.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
CM11-3.0 Kernel ROM (milaq)

Not sure if only some or everything below has been committed 02/06/14 nightly but we'll find out soon.

cm-11-20140206-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin.zip

Device updates:

• ueventd: add back camera stuff

• camera: update hal for ion

Kernel updates:

• wire up xz compression support and enable it

• Merge pull request #1 from Dorregaray/cm-11.0

• Enable pmem_adsp allocator for msm camera

• Add Tenderloin camera driver

Thanks to milaq, dorregaray, jcsullins, etc.

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The OP stated he got "the impression that it is necessary" to install CM10.2 before CM11, not that it was just a recommendation.

Myself I don't think it a necessary recommendation.

If recommending someone do a 'Wipe Data/Factory Reset" why not use that term rather than "Clear Data"?

Language is important.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
OTA

with tonights build (20140206) i am rolling out a custom ota updater application.

like with the official cmupdater this allows you to udpate your rom from within android without any manual download/recovery fiddling.

atm this is a limited field test, bugs are to be expected.

i let it run for a bit and see how it performs both for the users and our servers.

feedback is appreciated.

you need to update your recovery to the latest version 6.0.4.7

http://milaq.exnet.me/downloads/tenderloin/misc/recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-tenderloin.zip

the updater is included in builds from 20140206 on.

you can find it in your app drawer.

cheers
[TouchPad Development] JustMeToo:
I'm on 0204 and just had my first SOD. It's my first install of this ROM, so it's only 2 days that I'm on it. Hadn't had a SOD on the 10.2 ROM I upgraded from.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Was there a question?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Probably bug reporting? Most don't seem to read the OP. Sigh.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
Thanks for all the work Milaq

Latest version I can see is 20140205
[TouchPad Development] ranjib:
Its time to send tributes via paypal to the authors, I think!
[TouchPad Development] basrawi:
Guys anyone else is facing problems with touch stone? When I put my tp on it; it doesn't charge it just sits there until it reboots itself then it will charge normally. Any ideas?
[TouchPad Development] micl9:
Works fine for me.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
After updating to 20140206 if I open app drawer Trebuchet will instantly crash.

Tried reboot, problem persists so I can't even open the mlqUpdater (are you just trying to tease us? :) )

Anyone else?

Installed Nova launcher to temporary access my apps.
[TouchPad Development] streetcore:
Same problem here
[TouchPad Development] Bristow69:
No problem for me.

Same here with 20140206 (and 20140205).
[TouchPad Development] basrawi:
Ok. This only happens when the battery is above 93 or so %. So if you put it back while it has more than 93% this happens.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Touchstone good for me. I'll watch for the 93% issue.

On 02/05 build I didn't have any issue with switching from Nova Launcher to Trebuchet. However Nova Launcher is my default.

What are the advantages running Trebuchet on CM11?

Downloading 02/06 now. Very slow download. I see Milaq was up very late last night building a ROM ;)

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Anyone else having trouble downloading the nightly? My download keeps timing out half way in the middle of the download and have to restart from the beginning. And very slow, only 20% of file downloaded in 10 minutes. I don't know if its congestion on my network or if Milaq's host is bogged down. At any rate on a metered and limited connect this is a bit rough. If download times out again will just have to wait to test some other time. In the meantime will go an play with a 32GB Red Nexus just delivered.
[TouchPad Development] hooha23:
Thanks for posting this. Had the same question as Nightmare[ITA]. Guess I am not versed enough to have know what to search for!

I believe I understand what needs to be done now.

My order of operations:

1) wiped clean

2) removed android 4.2.2 using acmeuninstaller

3) installed evervolv package per "the easy way" thread using acmeinstaller 5E

4) installed apes partitioning zip for 32GB touchpads

5) installed CWM 6.0.4.7 (the one linked in this thread wouldnt boot for me for some reason? the 3 magenta logos glitched out)

6) wiped clean again

7) install CM11 and gapps with ADB Sideload*** edit: Naked drivers from here worked to get pc to recognize touchpad: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/nexus-5-driver-adb-fastboot-installation-guide/

8) use "minimal adb and fast boot" to sideload
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
Downloaded 02/06 around 2 hours ago without incident.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Check the various guide threads in Nexus5 forums where I have observed a number of download links for Windows drivers. And those same guides have helpful info that will interest TouchPad users as well as Android enthusiasts in general. Getting lots of reading done during snow days.
[TouchPad Development] laspero:
Load driver from here:

http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html#WinUsbDriver

video for installing adb on Windows 8:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Xsg7DkqN4

Make sure you have a recent version of ADB (supports secure). Older versions will not work and will give you a device offline error. I'm using Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.31 dated 10/23/2013
[TouchPad Development] hooha23:
Found the naked drivers through that thread. Seems to be sideloading now. Thanks!!

edit: got it installed, but now have trebuchet crashes like other people.
[TouchPad Development] tiquau:
Same problem here with Trebuchet instantly crashed with 0206 version
[TouchPad Development] allstar319:
Milaq, do you know what's causing the oversensitivity with the home button in the new recoveries (both .6 and .7)? Seems even more sensitive in .7.
[TouchPad Development] johnbelloh:
I flashed 0207 and trebuchet is fixed along with icon descriptors. This is now my daily driver. All my aps are working correctly. Thank you for a great ROM. The only problem I can report is an occasional reboot when idle and an occasional unable to wake when sleeping.
[TouchPad Development] patoberli:
Since the build of the 20140204 Simpsons Tapped Out is working again :) I don't know though if it's because of the game update from yesterday or the new ROM.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
OTA working fine, Trebuchet no longer crashing (20140207)

Thanks Milaq!
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
mlq updater

I ran the updater a few minutes ago, it downloaded 02/07 and prompted to reboot to install. My Touchpad rebooted to recovery, something flashed on the screen and then rebooted. Still at 02/06, and recovery is 6.0.4.7. Is there a recovery log somewhere?
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
/cache/recovery/last_log*
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
From log:

Finding update package...

I:Update location: /data/media/0/mlqupdater/cm-11-20140207-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin.zip

W:failed to mount /dev/store/cm-data (Device or resource busy)

E:Can't mount /data/media/0/mlqupdater/cm-11-20140207-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin.zip

Installation aborted.

Rebooting...

I:using /data/media for /sdcard/0/clockworkmod/.recovery_version

Any idea why? I can post full log if needed. Thanks
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
One quick after all with the OTA.

Even tho it updated fine to 20140207, if I open the updater it claims that I'm still on 2010206

an that 20140207 is downloaded and ready to install.
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Camera working?

I see the commits the device tree and Kernel, for the camera HAL and drivers etc.. Im using Camera Starter to access the Camera but im getting the "Cannon connect to the camera" message..

I have checked the Camera in webos and thats fine.. Am I missing something?

thanks
[TouchPad Development] airtower:
camera hasn't ever worked on CM11. Presumably it's coming very soon, but you'll see a number of commits before it's actually working.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Have a read here, in particular post #12: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2611497
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
Quick ones:

Shouldn't "discard" be on the mount options to enable TRIM ? fstrim is working well, but we could prevent its need. it takes a lot to trim /data

Also, anyone else suffers from ONE column of pixels from the left side of the screen showing up on the right side ?
[TouchPad Development] xdreaper15:
I get the opposite of this but only on some video playback. Right column of pixels shows up on left side.
[TouchPad Development] highlander2k:
Thought it was just me - thought I saw that the camera was active but I get the same message.

:rolleyes:
[TouchPad Development] minist:
Yes but mine is on the edge by the home button- left/bottom depending on orientation.
[TouchPad Development] joshua764:
Help. I made the partition to install. Install the recommended recovery but I do not recognize the sd folders. What's wrong?

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[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
I believe modified twrp from Flintman is working great if anyone wants to use instead of CWM.

I did everything using Tailor to modify the partition, and installed 4.3.1, but latest recovery from Milaq won't see my partition. I ended up flashing twrp using goo manager, and then flashed Flintman's modified twrp.

I was able to flash Milaq's 4.4.2 ROM using modified twrp, and also ota updates are flashing somewhat ok.
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
I agree, I have been using it for awhile.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
And I believe that I read in his thread that with his modified TWRP you can see the old SD card using TWRP's file browser.
[TouchPad Development] jayblahX:
Hey all.

I haven't been keeping abreast of the developments in this thread and with the nightlies, but I'm on an early January nightly.

Any recommendations on which nightly I should flash? Looking for the most stable of the current builds.
[TouchPad Development] harminoff:
Anyone else having issues with the new google now launcher and sound not working? I really like the launcher but am unable to use it as the sound wont work and therefore no apps with sound will load. They all freeze. Going into settings and sound also freezes it.
[TouchPad Development] xdreaper15:
I actually just noticed that. Here's a screenshot.

Well. Nvm it doesn't show on screenshots. Guess that's a display/hardware error and not a code error of some sort?
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
Confirm screenshots come correct.

Anyone has any opinions about discard and trim in general ?

Update:

mount -o remount,descard /data && mount -o remount.discard /cache worked. No errors.

fstrim -v /cache reported 1216204800 bytes trimmed (the partition is big)

fstrim -v /data reported 6207942656 bytes trimmer. That's 5.7 gb. Isn't that a little high?
[TouchPad Development] millicoelho:
+1
[TouchPad Development] Colnart:
somehow the usb storage doesn't show up and i only have 400mb of free storage ? did i partition it wrong ?
[TouchPad Development] ZeroZorro:
I am on 140208 ..all works okay but the combination of video and BT is not working inhere....

Well...it works for a few moments but then the error 'can't play this video' comes up... mx, vlc, sammy, doesn't matter. Forced closed and try again works sometimes but stop using BT works all the time so i think using both is the problem now ( BT and MediaPlay) any thoughts?
[TouchPad Development] alan-31:
I have Cyogenmod 4.1.2. If I upgrade to Kitkat, does it make the device faster or better in a significant way? I dont want to make the effort if its not going to make a big difference.
[TouchPad Development] buzz86us:
how do i find sizes on my partitions? I used the script a long time ago but i think it errored out or something and i just want to see what my partitions look like
[TouchPad Development] Aganar:
Tailor would tell you.
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
or open the terminal and type df
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
These are still early builds. If your wanting good stable working TP. Stay with What you have until it gets further developed.
[TouchPad Development] sstar:
Thanks Jack of Clubs for that really useful tip.
[TouchPad Development] vshzR:
In short the answer is no. What you will gain are the changes from the previous version, and maybe a little bit instability. I know this doesn't directly answer your questions, however some of the feature changes are nice but it is not for the faint of heart.
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
Milaq, you rock!!!!!!!! Even easier then Goo. Been waiting for an easy way for the family to update their tabs. Thank you again for your awesome work!!

OK what I seeing is the updater keeps thinking I'm on 2/7 build even though I'm on the 2/9 build. I tried clearing the upater cache and app data but no go. I'm successfully on 2/9.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
There are apps in the market which would tell you the same thing. Search for partition, and you will see. Df is always there.
[TouchPad Development] njiki11:
Guys I think about some serious trouble. I've downloaded clockwork in the OP, but when I try to install any other recoveries or ROM it won't let me because the only files I can access (which is none) is in a folder that says 0, obb, clockwork. Where is my Sdcard? Seriously guys I need help. I don't know if it's because of my re partitioning or the fact that I flashed a new recovery.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
Yeah, this is like that since it was introduced in 20140206 build

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Read more :)

Sideload/adb the ROM and gapps files from your PC.
[TouchPad Development] njiki11:
I'll try that! But will I ever be able to use cwm like I did before?
[TouchPad Development] millicoelho:
This seems to be working in the latest nightly.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
Sure, you just don't have the file on the right partition.
[TouchPad Development] njiki11:
I'm really sorry for all the questions. But how would I do that and return to using clockwork normally
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
You just have to sideload it this time and then you can use the auto updater or cwm.
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
Should be in 0
[TouchPad Development] joshua764:
goes a great time! excellent work. really delighted me. thank you

something happens. tells me that space is insufficient to install firefox. how can I fix this?

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[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Here is what I have done. Partition using Tailor like you want, and install any 4.3.1 Android using cminstall folder /novacom method.

Once you have installed 4.3.1, please download goo manager and let it install twrp. Once you have twrp, download modded twrp from my previous link about few post back.

Download milaq's ROM and gapps, and put it in all in download folder.

Boot into TWRP using goo manager, and install/flash recovery from my earlier post.

Do factory wipe using new recovery, and install 4.4.2.
[TouchPad Development] joshua764:
something happens. tells me that space is insufficient to install firefox. how can I fix this?

-- Sent from my Palm TouchPad using Forums
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
I don't know but it sure sounds way easier to just sideload in cwm....
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
I could not get adb to get going, but I am huge fan of touch based recovery.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Anyone solve the tab pages in Chrome from going black and having to constantly refresh for the page to rerender?

Just downloaded the 2/10 nightly and preping to install. Been using the customized PhilZ Touch 6 recovery for my Nexus 5. Anyone aware if that recovery work for current CM11.1 ?
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Installed the 2/10 nightly. The m|q updater appears to work well. Says I have the latest update.

Are there any user accessible config settings for the updater. What happens if an update available? Will it be auto push down to the device and auto install? Or does the end-user have to confirm before the updated is downloaded and then manually install the update? Or is the update process something completely different?

Ideally I want to be able to occasionally /randomly check if an update is available, without the update auto pushed down or having to download it right away.

Anyone yet test the updater to observe the process how updates are handled?

P.S> Chrome tab pages are still often going black and randomly auto refresh. Seems to occur if the page is not 100% rendered/downloaded and touch somewhere on the page (e.g. to scroll). Are others having same issue in other tenderloin ROMs? Is this specific to this ROM or is it occurring on other Android other devices?

Salivating over camera functionality getting implemented.
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
I have personally pretty much given up on Chrome Browser until the black screen issue is resolved and use Dolphin Browser almost exclusively.
[TouchPad Development] guxu:
Keep rebooting?

I was using 20131212 build and it was fine with those known issues. Yesterday I tried to flash 20140209 build. Before I did it, I uninstalled everything using ACMEUninstaller2. Then downloaded the latest gapps-kk-20140115 and recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-tenderloin. Then I copied recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-tenderloin, moboot_038-tenderloin, gapps-kk-20140105, and cm-11-20140209-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin to touchpad and used ACMEInstaller5M to flash the rom as I did before. But after that, my touchpad cannot boot to Android. It just keeps rebooting. I tried 20140210 build and got the same problem. Did I miss something? Thanks.