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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
It should work as long as everything is stock (including recovery and kernel). You will however lose root, but that can easily be reobtained by flashing it after updating.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
If you are rooted why not just flash a rooted stock rom? Confused why you wait for answers from others... I am just curious since I see people do this and it confuses me... Just askin and sorry if you think I may be flamin'.

Do people think the OTA is different somehow or works better somehow
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
Pretty sure that if I flash stock ROM I'm going to lose my settings. I've had VERY bad results backing up and restoring going from 4.2 to 4.3 and really don't want to go through that hassle unless absolutely required.

To answer your other question, I just prefer to be on the OTA.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
If you are on a stock rom and flash the upgraded version you wont lose your settings. Flashing one rom over another can be done its just frowned up in some cases. Lets be honest though there are quite a few back up tools out there for you to achieve a duplicated look going from one rom to another within the hour.

I hear ya if you had issues but you sure its not in your procedure. Be glad to help you if you need it. Thanks for answering the question though but I believe your route is more cumbersome than just a simple flash but what ever makes you more comfortable is best I get that
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aga2:
Mine was same specs like yours (stock 4.3 - rooted by Koush superuser) and updated to 4.4 through OTA just fine :good:

Never had any problem with Koush superuser and OTAs on both Nexus 4 & Galaxy Nexus (can't say the same with supersu)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
Tried to upgrade to 4.4. The upgrade failed and the phone reports no command when I reboot. Still on stock recovery.

Any suggestions on what I should try next to recover?

Note: I do have TWRP available while running fastboot.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
I installed the factory stock image (and formatted the cache but didn't wipe out the userdata image). I know the first boot should take an extended amount of time, but its been showing the rotating circles for about 8 minutes now. What is a reasonable amount of time for the initial boot?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
Wiping the cache and the Dalvik cache from TWRP solved it. I'm rooted again and things appear to be back to normal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
Well....I'm on the stock ROM now (Google forced my hand). ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
what does that mean?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
The 4.4 OTA upgrade failed and wouldn't boot. A poor attempt at humor I guess.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
root it and flash anything you want my friend... take control of your phone back... :p
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samwix26:
Hi :)

I would know if Link2SD can move data games (like Minion Rush, Rayman Jungle Run etc..) in ext2 partitionned SD Card? :)

I have not memory swap!

Thanks :)
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryccardo:
AFAIK, it can't move OBB ("additional resources for ..."), but I think it's possible to bind-mount a folder (in any partition) over the expected location.
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samwix26:
Thanks for answer.

I saw I can move my obb folders and all other apps in my sd card without swapping memories or part sdcard ! :D

Does it works?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samwix26:
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[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ryccardo:
Never heard of it, but from the description it appears to do exactly what I said with a GUI :good:
[Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samwix26:
I tried with Italian Job Experience, it seems to work. :)
[General Questions and Answers] Kittciokas:
Hello,

I have a situation like this - My girlfriends sister got her cell phone stolen while traveling on the bus a month ago. She gave the IMEI number to the Police, but they still didn't find it. Almost a month later me and my girlfriend received weird calls almost at the same time, i didn't picked it up, she did. The person said he called to the random numbers because he wanted to joke. But we with my girlfriend started to suspect that he wasn't calling to the random numbers, because the calls to me and her was almost at the same time (we don't know if both calls was from him, because it showed that number is unknown to both of us, either way, we're sure it was the same person, because we receive unknown calls very rarely). How can he randomly call to me and my girlfriend almost at the same time?. We started to suspect he has my girlfriends sisters phone. My girlfriend started to chat with him and she provoked him to tell the model of the phone he is using and it was indeed just the same model (Samsung Galaxy Ace) of the phone that was stolen from her sister. We don't think he stole that phone, he just bought it, but the phone wasn't cleared, he found numbers in the address book and that's how he called us both almost at the same time. We want to make sure that we are right and want to get his IMEI number somehow to compare it to the stolen phones and then we would go to the Police if they would match. Is there any way to provoke to install some kind of .apk that would send us his IMEI number without him knowing that? He isn't very smart as much as we got to know him, because he revealed many information without any suspicion.

Thank you.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Z1 vs HTC one camera test / comparison - Vote please.​

@ Mods please move this thread in general if it doesn't belong here , ty !

ok so my cousins came at my place with 2 Z1's , we've taken them to test them out , it was cloudy day , as for flash light photos / indoor no flash photos z1 trully sux big time and they didn't want to let me have those photos , so all i have is daylight photos and 1 flash light and 1 indoor , don't ask how i got those 2 lol it was PAIN.

While taking pics z1 really has major issues with superior auto / white balance , while with manual it's slightly better but still not good enough imo due timing , they've took both pics with me average 3/4 pics each and average 2-3 mins took them for each pic with various settings at the end choosing the best outta 7/8 they took while i was snapping either 1 normal or some HDR pics that's about it. They've also deleted so many daylight photos where they were worse then me ... so not really an *FAIR* comparison due them being big time Sony fanboys and they're very stubborn and not accepting their camera isn't the best in the world lol.

Keep in mind i have no skills with camera tho my cousins know how camera works so they're more experienced then i am.

Anyway i'll let you judge the photos and i'll open a vote poll so vote for which you think it won overall.

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1 - Flash macro

HTC One - Flash macro

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1 - indoor no flash.

HTC One - indoor no flash.

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One
[One (M7) General] Khixar27:
great

except for the cloud one Which z1 has more natural

i cant believe htc beats z1 camera lol

thats epic hahaha

btw some of the colors are saturated for z1

for me htc one picture are pretty awesome

bith cameras are like same 4mp vs 21 lol :P
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
[MENTION=4287267]Khixar27[/MENTION]

I'm still uploading Photos i got 50 more to go please wait before i finish :)

Here some more photos that couldn't fit in the 1st post.

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

HTC One

Xperia Z1

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[One (M7) General] AcoAlex:
Koje selo i država brate? ?

Htc One the One ?
[One (M7) General] adam_pl:
Slovakia?

But sticking to topic, Z1 doesn't looks to good with 21mpx sensor. I would say that One has slight edge here
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Its Serbia actually ;)
[One (M7) General] raysurrx7:
I like the saturation in the Z1, but the HTC definitely capture more detail in low light with less noise. My conclusion is to use the HTC with a +.5 step in saturation.
[One (M7) General] wezzel98765:
In my opinin, and yes, I am a Z1 owner... seeing as you were using the Z1 in manual mode, you either had the ISO too low (50??) or you didn't adjust the EV accordingly as the Z1 pictures just look too dark really?

When in manual mode, you really need to take advantage of the settings
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
We've took photos @ around 10/11am lol , the saturation you like on z1 is cuz they had to use cloudy / daylight white balance due impossibility to come close to my pics , here few examples for you just so you see what I mean , anyway it wouldn't look realistic since there were no sun at all pretty much whole time. Only 2 pics had sun and that's it.

1st pic normal 2nd with daylight effect same as they used the whole time :rolleyes:

I assume this is what you wanted :p?

Keep in mind it was cloudy no sun at all ;), that why pics are less saturated on my phone but as you can see in the examples I could've done that but wouldn't represent realistic colors :)
[One (M7) General] Dark Jedi:
I guess there is something to that mega pixel after all. Both cameras took good pictures and mostly comes down to settings. At least the Xperia don't suffer from the purple haze that many of us one owners has.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
It actually has indoor some yellow / blue tint , you can see on the indoor pic , btw I don't have that sensor issue that many HTC one owners do.
[One (M7) General] One Twelve:
Exifs are there for all the pics :)

The Z1 user set white balance appropriately and actually used -EV compensation for a number of shots, might have over done it in some places. it's a difficult call. Auto isn't mature yet on the Z1, whereas the HTC one has been out for ages and from what i could tell the HTC camera took all the shots in auto. No tweaks.

The close up on the tree bark actually has the Z1 produce a blurred shot, dunno how that happened. Shutter was fast enough so no chance of camera shake.

What i'd like to understand better is this brightness value i see in the HTC exifs, it seems to change for each shot and wondered if any of the htc guys can tell me more about it. First thing you see is the HTC shots are all brighter, and in some cases more than necessary.

Questions to the OP

- how long have the Z1 owners had their phone and how long have you had yours.

- indicate which photo pairs are HDR (if any) ?

- Can you clarify whether the Z1 took the shots in 20MP or 8MP.

- Which program did you use to resize down to 1.4MP ?

- i don't understand what happened with the indoor shots. Saying they were really bad does not make sense to me. Without seeing the shots there is no way to comment.

- How about a low light shoot-out. I want to see shutter speeds of 0.3s on your htc and we'll see how that compares with the 0.8s on the Z1. Take care to stabilise the cameras so as not to have blur. If your cousins know what they're doing this should not be a problem for them ;)

Actually this is fair, you should have done the same as this way it really is best that the cameras can do. These are pre-planned shots, you can take as much time as you want. There is no time deadline or any other constraints. When people put up their pics many times they put up the best of many. So this is normal.

Auto isn't mature on the Z1, it will take time. This means the skill of the Z1 owner needs to be better. The difference with ISO for instance can be signficant and not slight as you put it, auto can bump ISO up very high resulting in a noisy shot whereas you can get pretty good results if you set it manually. Your cousins did this already. Most reviewers do not.

This should not come as a surprise to an HTC owner, you have plenty of tweaks you can use as well. However, things like contrast, sharpness, saturation etc would not be fair as they're not present on the Z1 and can be done in post with better software. i note you did not use any of these 3 in any photos :)
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
great comparsion

for me htc one looks better , btw the photos is great

does your htc one camera sometimes show in screen regular noise while capturing photos? i want to know if this is a regular thing or only my unit does this .. another question , does your phone suffer from blue/red noise in dark or no ? i hope no;):good:
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Hello there , I didn't even use z1 , I've wrote in OP that I was using my one and my 2 cousins were using 2 z1's taking each 3/4 pics each in total of 7/8 and later picking the best pic outta 7/8.

They look dark because HTC really has outstanding HDR while z1 really is no match with hdr.

From my observation with those difficult scenes z1 was useless , you could make pic but you would have to chose either sky/ clouds or ground , there's no option to take both like with HTC's hdr.

oh and believe my cousins were only using manual since superior auto was completely useless.

One Twelve confirmed this by checking Exifs.

Yeah you're right. Like I said all I was using was auto or hdr , nothing else.

I guess the cousin moved lol.

The shots are brighter cuz of hdr , with z1 if you point at the sky for example bottom gets dark and it's clearly impossible for z1 to balance that due to poor hdr capabilities where's the htc one handles this easily.

My guess about brightness change is probably meetering and our auto / hdr can use higher values then what we can in manual.

- I've had HTC one since June , my cousins have their Z1's since it came out ( as addition they've been with Sony since SE K300I , so trust me they know what they're doing lol )

- All photos that have sky / clouds +ground = hdr , the rest were normal.

- trust me it was embarrassing shots which is why they didn't let me have them , I managed to get only 1 flash photo and only 1 indoor no flash photo , I was looking forward to upload those but unluckily they didn't let me have them.

- Dunno which mp they used all I know is they used manual settings.

- I didn't use any program to resize photos , all I did is upload the photos from pc to tinypic site and post them here.

Like I said there's no low light shots Thx to them , tho in almost pitch black no flash z1 was better , everywhere else worse. Even video recording low light due fact I can record video at same brightness as the shots you saw lol. ( hdr recording ) also in pitch black z1 can't come close since my flash is about 2x more powerful.

I don't have the nerves for that I just want point and shoot not wasting time to set all the settings , the moment will pass by the time settings are set.

Yeah I've noticed that superior auto is utter **** lol.

Yeah I'm just one of those point and shot , sometime switch to hdr and that's about it. Tho I gotta say I play with settings when I'm bored but when taking pics pretty much point and shoot.

I guess I get sometimes with flash noise untill it focuses after that all normal , no tints here pretty much perfect unit.
[One (M7) General] Meemo23:
Great post. It is nice to see almost a year in and our camera is still up there with its so called Ultra-pixels which is just a fancy word for mega-pixel. I never doubted this phones camera always served me well and even made a 2 hour long home movie to send back home.. Great phone but i think if sony put time and effort into their software they can get the camera up and running in brilliant quality too..
[One (M7) General] crixley:
Too many peoples and companies think megapixels means quality, while using very poor sensors. They keep trying to push this rumor/agenda

A better sensor>>>>>megapixel count
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Exactly +1

[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

I'm sorry I can't bother answering to all questions etc , simply just take a look at photos and you got answer.

As for hdr stuff you wrote HTC one takes less then 0.5 Sec to make hdr photo and ready for next , I'm sure it takes over 20 sec to set z1 to make similar photo which is still no match.

As for fllash HTC one has smart flash = we.have 5 modes = it can fire up very low light or super strong light , this is why z1 will never match htc one in flash light photos , especially if photos are 1/2+ meters away , z1 is useless in this distance.

As for ceiling HTC one gets better flash photos when there are walls then when there aren't.

I can take photo outdoor pitch black about 5/7 meters away , indoor I can go up to 10 , if I increase exposure and lower contrast I can go even further.

HTC one also in long distance low light photos can take hdr + flash light = it gathers light from flash as well and makes overall picture more light.

With 4:3 HTC one also makes better photos then in 16:9 also sharper.

By the time z1 gets / if it gets fixed we will have updates as well + one 2 will be out by that time and more fair comparison would be one 2 due being newer 4/5 month's instead comparison vs HTC one which is 7 months older :cool:

As for Xperia Z I've took test with my cousins as well since they had XZ before z1 , I've literally raped Xz , I'll ask them to send me that test and upload it as well.

As for movement + picturing z1 will never match HTC ZOE.

here few samples for you so you see why :sly:

Btw all this pics were quiet tricky movement and impossible with burst shot or regular , but ZOE handles movement quiet easy.
[One (M7) General] townay:
If I am to judge, I'd say for the most part, the z1 does seem more pleasing. You seem to be abusing the hdr alot on the Htc one. The colors are washed out as hell. I can tell because I use the htc one as well.

I'll say this, neither the z1 nor the HTC One's hdr are good. Only the HTC One has a minor advantage.

If you are going to use HDR, set your ISO to 100, AF/AE lock on a bright light source AND THEN switch to HDR. This way your HDR will look much better than just using HDR right off the bat.

The first pic, I used HDR right off the bat. Looks washed out, basically it looks terrible

The second pic, I set ISO100, AE/AF lock on my ceiling light, switched to HDR. Much better colors.
[One (M7) General] One Twelve:
Too bad, i guess it will fall upon somebody else to challenge otherwise my points stand.

Z1 isn't ready for a HDR shootout. It is ready for non-hdr manual shootout. When i have time i will select the non-hdr shots in your group and we will see the differences.

This bit is interesting. i don't think any other android camera can vary the intensity of flash light based upon what the camera sees. This is an advantage with indoor shots. Does not mean you cannot get acceptable ones in Z1 or any other that does not have this ability, its just harder. And once you know what to do its no longer harder.

So I'm not going with ease of use, i'm interested in whether its possible to take the shot or not. This is a better indication of limitations.

ok

Useful but difficult to get right. People look more cold than warm. This is why the push to improve low light handling so there is little need to use flash in the first place. Flash photography on a mobile phone is difficult.

Surprising as i thought htc one has a native 16:9 sensor. Everybody else uses 4:3. So smaller pics come out better with 4:3 than 16:9.

So i'd have thought 16:9 is best aspect ratio for htc one.

Yeah, do that lets see the difference. Ensure the exifs are visible. After looking at the photo thread for Z, i changed my mind about what most people think about the Z. I would like to understand in which way the htc one 'rapes' the Z :D

I note that htc one does not indicate which firmware number is being used. So can you mention which one was used to take your photos.

I don't follow, with enough light you have a fast shutter speed so why is it hard to get those shots ?

What does ZOE do here that you cannot do without it.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I've used for test vs z1 latest HTC one 4.3 software , 3.62 firmware , as for vs Xz it was 4.2.2 2.24 firmware.

Zoe takes bunch of photos and video of 3 sec from which you can later take frames out in full size like you took the photo normal way.
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
Another question is your front camera too noisey because mine too too too noisey
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
[MENTION=4936696]Nightf0x_007[/MENTION]

Nope it's crystal clear , tho in low light it is noisy.
[One (M7) General] One Twelve:
Never say never dude :laugh:

Nice photos

ZOE from what i can see takes them in 4MP at the rate of ten per second.

Burst with long press can do this on the Z1, unfortunately it only works in superior auto which isn't mature yet. The camera is more than capable of it.

SA boosts the ISO up too much but if ISO could be set lower then Z1 will produce good burst shots.

For now burst mode on the Z is better than Z1. In fact early on with the Z, burst mode was advised to get the least processed shots and the ones i saw in the Z photo thread were quite good.

Your cousins are using the latest .257 fw for the Z1.

It's the HTC that i wanted to confirm because HO in the exif does not indicate which fw, odd given the otherwise comprehensive exif info.
[One (M7) General] jerrylzy:
if you asked me to vote for now, I would vote for one

but if you asked me to choose one of their cameras, i would choose z1.

For:

1. z1 obviously has a far superior sensor. much larger in size(1/2.3 vs 1/3) and much more pixels. It should have better day light details by logic. it is a pity that it does not come with OIS support; otherwise I bet it will beat HTC One eventually

2. sony phones always compress their photos extremely small so that many details are vanished and noises come out, and the superior pixels and sensor size are thus gone. If I remember correctly this bad compression of photos also happened to htc phones before, but people can use modes to liberate the full potential of the camera. I believe with mods & further firmware updates, z1 will beat htc again.

And I thought majority of the pictures of one are taken by HDR mode, right? I think it is better to compare between normal modes instead of one HDR and one normal.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I'd say half are hdr half normal , only sky + ground photos were hdr.

Anyway I agree that z1 has much better camera hardware and I really hope Sony will fix their ****ty software soon so I can test again , at least soon enough before I jump onto one2.

Anyway there's 1 field z1 will never be as good as htc one due hardware , flashlight photos , it could match HTC one in 1meter flash photos everything that's further it won't due much worse flash light.

Anyway I kinda like Sa the way it works and super fast response when looking thru camera , it's like when we record in 60 fps , looks awesome.

[MENTION=5512893]One Twelve[/MENTION]

Forgot to include in previous post the answer on your question.

Pics from z1 are 8mp , I'll zip later all our pics so if you wanna examine them in full size I'll upload it for ya.