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[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigelhealy:
Reason: a bit more protection if its dud, refurbished at least has gone through kind of factory checking.

W'e're making different points. I agree the battery is long enough because for those situations I'm using it for many hours, I'm static right next to a mains power which I'd use anyway, those situations where power is not available, there's enough battery life.

I was making the point in the tablet universe, it is not amazingly good life, it is the weakpoint to improve in next version.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57545908-251/battery-life-battle-royale-nexus-vs-ipad/

I have a 12000mah USB larger battery which will do one full recharge of a 9000mah tablet and was like $40 and works with everything, plus a 5400mah slim battery if I was space/weight concerned.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PVL_93_RU:
But is it safe to get such a device?

Well, the almost 3000mAh battery capaticy difference between N10 and iPad 3/4 obviously affects how long a tablet can live, that's not to mention the ridiculous 2500x1600-whatever resolution and the Exynos chip (which, AFAIK but I may be mistaken, isn't as efficent in the battery life aspect as Snapdragon CPUs are)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigelhealy:
agree

My thinking exactly, they're still in stock.

I got a few issues, one is when the N10 immediately comes out, it will be only from Google Play, and they'll hit it with both tax and shipping. If I wait a few months (typically) I can get it without either and the price drops. So the Woot offer is $314, whilst N10 successor, in reality will be in the $580 region, which is 85% higher cost.

Refurbished with 90days warranty covers against receiving a dud.

I looked at ebay, and they're selling used for at least that price.

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I'm not understanding you. From a dealer, on a creditcard, will you get a working system? That's my concern.

If you're concerned about buying just before a successor comes out, then you must cover that in two ways:

only get it if the current specification, performance, meets your needs, so when successor comes out you don't actually have a problem which needs solving.

Take the age of the device into account when buying used. I'd say at the price Woot is asking, its fair given the date N10 came out and the % probability of a new device coming out. The Nexus 10 was announced over a year ago, I'd say chance of a new model announcement soon is high.

If you're trying to decide about waiting for new product which may come out soon, then you'll always have issues, e.g. the new product may get defects with initial batches, so even if the new device was announced today, you'd be wise to not get right anyway, I always wait for others to get it, and let defects get discovered and buy from the 2nd batch anyway so I'd not buy the next N10 for a few months anyway.

Anyone who spend hours and hours working on a tablet, should have the PSU with them, I don't think the battery life is so low to render it useless, a typical example of me being away from power is about 3 hours.

The PSU on tablets are small, microusb cables can be small, its not a Netbook with a bulky PSU and cord.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PVL_93_RU:
My concern is about the "refurbished" mark - what differs a normal new device from the same but refurbished one? From the definition I read about it being returned to the manufacturer for some kind of repairs, but what about scratches, breakings on the body, any damage, etc?

And yeah, if there is a second gen N10 coming - I'm probably getting it anyway, especially if it's not Samsung which means "Hello, Snapdragon" and maybe a Full HD screen instead of current N10's resoltion (like, seriosuly - who needs such a big-a$$ resolution on a 10" tablet!? These number races are killing the industry today ffs)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigelhealy:
So your choices:

So imagine the N10's used value is $250 selling on ebay when the N10 2 comes out and suppose to swap to N10 2 in 6 months from now.

If you buy a N10 new now they're available for about $415 delivered, you'll add small blemishes to it, so it will look the same when you sell it as a refurbished one, you'll pay more $ for it and so when you sell it, you've lost $165, so you paid $1/day to use it.

If you buy a refurbished N10 for $314, it will look the same when you sell it as the new one when you sell it, but you lost $64, so you paid $0.4/day to use it.

The key thing is what you get in your hands is fully working with no significant marks than you'd do yourself to a new unit.

Well you've answered your own question then, there are problems for you with the current model, issues you'd find an urgent need to swap it out, so don't buy the current N10 obviously.

I'm that guy who paid $200 for an additional 4MB of memory in 1993 on my PC, things getting better is just a fact of life, the key is to know what is not acceptable to you and hold off buying til what is your need is delivered. Apple started good-spec tablets, but I deemed their

Google is acting to drive down prices, even if N10 2 isn't out soon, they're stimulating the market so you'll get whatever you deem you need eventually.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbuggydroid:
Also you can get a year warranty for like 50 dollars from woot if you want. Believe you also get the standard 90 day warranty with just the tablet purchase
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigelhealy:
I think 90days is enough to cover for receiving a dud, anything after is really about you accidentally damaging it and those longer warranties do not cover for accidental damage. Hence the free supplied warranty in reality is sufficient.
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PVL_93_RU:
Well not in my case, getting it from the HS, finding it to be broken or something, and then sending it back, and waiting again until a new one arrives... Too much time consuming, especially with how much time the deliveries usually take from the states to Russia (which can reach up to 2 weeks or even more)
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyroo54:
I don't care if the nexus 10 2 was $1000 I would buy it the instant it is released..
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbuggydroid:
Mind sending me some money? Lol
[Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nigelhealy:
I did also and it is still not shipped and two messages to Woot no replies. Kinda wishing I'd not as could have got a couple of days later new off ebay for $300 ($400 paid and $100 credit later).

I do still think these ~$300-ish for new/refurbished is a fair price for the specification, I could never justify to myself $500 for something which is other than a full laptop.

I've added a $25 Pogo charger to charge faster, $40 bluetooth keyboard case. Of course if you go with a N10 successor it won't initially have a full ecosystem of cases and chargers etc and a new N10 will likely be $500 and be initially only from Google play who charge tax and shipping making it nearer to $580. Hence, you'd really really have some problem with the current N10 to not get one and wait for the successor.

I just need the damn seller to ship mine grrrr:rolleyes:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericjosepi:
Hi all. I attempted to update my One to KitKat (tried TripNDroid's 4.4 from Original Development first but couldn't get it to flash so switched to ssrij's CM 11 Beta).

Unfortunately, this has left me in a situation where I can't mount the USB storage of my device, nor can I find it in ADB. That wouldn't be so bad on its own because I can still charge the phone (even through a USB port on my PC), however without fastboot I'm unable to change recoveries and restore my CWM nandroid backup (switched to TWRP 2.6.3.3 to get the CM 11 Beta installed) [EDIT: Fastboot *does* recognize the device through USB see below]. Device Manager is not showing the phone either.

Any suggestions?

Steps taken so far:

-I've gone back to Android Revolution HD's GPE 4.3 ROM and restored my apps/texts from a titanium backup and still can't get the thing to mount.

-Downloaded the newest SDK 11/24/2013 and updated to latest binaries.

-Multiple ROM reinstalls, phone and PC reboots, different USB cables, etc.

PC: Windows 7 x64 SP1 Home Premium (previously update phone, newest SDK as of 11/24/2013).

Phone:

Hboot 1.4.4

ROM: Android Revolution HD 4.1 Google Play Edition (restored from NAND backup)

Recovery: CWM Touch 6.0.4.3

EDIT:

So I've discorvered that fastboot USB will work if I boot into recovery and then reboot into the bootloader from recovery. As such, I have switched back to CWM Recovery and restored my NAND backup. Any idea why ADB/mounting as removeable storage no longer works?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericjosepi:
Aaaaaaaaaaaand after restoring the Nandroid backup again (4th time in 13 hours) USB is mounting properly and the phone is being recognized by ADB. Guess the best advice is to hold off on the KitKat for now :S

Sorry for the trouble if anyone had read the first post and given it more than 10 seconds with of thought. This is the first time it's started behaving properly since I attempted flashing that particular CM 11 beta last night.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tudorlv:
Hi, my One started out of the blue to have this exact problem, but even fastboot didn't recognize usb, only charging

I tried several methods, restore from backup, flash another rom but nothing

Has anyone resolved this problem somehow?

I'm on ARHD 41.0, elemental X kernel if this helps

Thank you
[HTC Rezound] loki993:
I'm wondering, I have a 13 Ford Focus and I can't get it to pair with my car. Its worked fine before but recently I changed ROMs, CM 10.2 and updated my phones radios to the most recent ones. I think the bluetooth is fine because it pairs with my computer fine, just not my car.

So my questions is what cause bluetooth issues? The ROM, The Kernel or the radios?
[HTC Rezound] mjones73:
I'd blame the rom. :D

Seriously though if you made a back up of your previous rom, restore and see if it will pair. Anything you need to clear out on your car's side so it can pair? I rented a Toyota recently and it's paired phone list was full, had to delete some to get it to work.
[HTC Rezound] loki993:
I don think so but Ill check. The only phone that's been paired with the car has been this one and only twice so I doubt anythings full honestly.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btort1:
Ok I know for att and tmobile if they stop paying monthly for the att next, they will block it and have a bad esn or if they report it stolen, it will have a bad esn

Is there any way a seller can report it stolen OR have it blocked a couple months from now for the 9500 or 9505?

I heard stories where some idiot just reports the phone stolen and then gives your phone a bad esn....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tennisshoeninja:
every once in a while when i enter an app it says "notification disabled" very annoying...

anyone know why?
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
What part of a Rom/command turns data off while on WiFi, is it the build.prop or something else
[HTC One Max] pradeepvizz:
You could use the search :)
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Thanks for the suggestion but it seems that toggles data on/off in general and I want it to toggle it automatically when only on wifi which I did use the search with no luck hence why I am asking in the "Q&A Section" :)
[HTC One Max] pradeepvizz:
seems like i did not understand your question clearly before. anyways, just to clarify if both WiFi and mobile data is on, the system uses only WiFi, i hope that is how your phone behaves.

I think that might be possible via apps like Automate it/tasker, however i don't seem to understand the need for doing that.

Does that help? i am still wondering if i got your question correct.
[HTC One Max] Jiggity Janx:
Maybe approach from a different angle.... what are you trying to accomplish once you have the ability to toggle data while on wifi?
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Ok let me be more clear I'm wondering what controls the data icon visibility when on WiFi, on every phone I've had the data icon isn't present when using WiFi except this one
[HTC One Max] Jiggity Janx:
I think that's a much easier question to answer. I recall that being answered somewhere quite simply and I'm sure someone will be able to recall the answer. I can't recall at the moment...
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Can anyone chime in on this?
[HTC One Max] Jiggity Janx:
Wasnt it like a setting that said check for network data in the case of poor wifi. Think thats an option in some roms but maybe stock Max has it enabled by default. I will keep my eye on it at home wifi later.
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Yea I've looked all over the max so I'm thinking its something that can be changed in the framework ... Juice defender works but I'm trying not to half to use an aftermarket program. Please advise
[HTC One Max] Jiggity Janx:
I noticed last night on mine that occasionally it had the 4G and wifi on together. Haven't particularly had time to try to dig up what I thought I read before.
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Well let me know if you come up with something
[HTC One Max] B-Man2005:
i had this issue once my mms apn wasnt set up correctly

so i had a mms in the inbox and the phone constantly tried to download the mms to no avail

so the mobile data icon H or 3G was always visible even with wifi on

so i deleted the mms restarted and the icon was gone....

i dont need mms so often so i let it this way...
[HTC One Max] mnsportsguy1978:
Still doin it after factory reset
[HTC One Max] B-Man2005:
i would try to delete my apn´s and add them manually
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] temp9300:
I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.

The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.

I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.

thx
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ckelly33:
I upgraded and imo it isn't worth it. The resolution is nice but it is best displayed on paper, when I put them side by side i don't notice a night/day difference. The software is much better on the original (see how many people are complaining about the new snote) and root is better on the first as well. Battery life is better on the original.

If I hadn't promised my old one to my nephew I wouldn't have kept the new one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] temp9300:
Thanks for your helpful comments, you mention some relevant points, i guess i'll be keeping my note for now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] red321red321:
I upgraded and I think the higher res display is well worth it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] BarryH_GEG:
They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Action B:
I could not agree more. I picked up my tablet yesterday and can say the following things I have noticed:

1. The screen is better, but it honestly has not blown me away.

2. Camera is way better.

3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.

4. S-Note is a boss, way better

5. Battery life doesn't seem quite as good.

6. Device boots faster and is faster but not terribly noticeable once booted.

7. Widgets aren't as good in my opinion. (I'm thinking digital clock and alarm)

8. The device looks way nicer.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Antrax:
I went to Best Buy today and saw the new Note 10.1 in display. It looked nice and my wife ask me if I want to upgrade my Note 10.1 2012. Didn't play much with it but the screen was a bit better. The multitasking looks good too but not sure if it's worth the expense right now. I love my old Note and it's my primary tablet/computer. Maybe I should upgrade just because I know my tablet will start falling in performance and battery.

We're in the same boat, really don't know if I should upgrade. I'll do more research.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] BarryH_GEG:
This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.

I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Action B:
So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?

I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.

I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] BarryH_GEG:
You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...

I don't know if [MENTION=3133381]ChrisNee1988[/MENTION] is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If [MENTION=3133381]ChrisNee1988[/MENTION] is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.

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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Action B:
Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ChrisNee1988:
I have a p600 us model so I'm not sure why you have bluetooth issues. I do have the logitech drivers installed on my computer and played around with the function settings but I doubt that would affect connectivity.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] BarryH_GEG:
I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Action B:
Actually that's referring to my 2012 note 10.1. The 2014 model is stock.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] snake2332:
If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.

Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Flyer.michael:
Getting mine tomorrow... and am glad that games still render at 1280x800... Asphalt8 in max is sometimes slow on my old 10.1 and in 2500x1600 it would be to much for the new Note 2014
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] samwifi:
The upgrade from the old 10.1 to the new 10.1 is huge for me. The old 10.1 made my eye balls bleed when reading for more then a few minutes.. the resolution is huge when it comes to text. The new 10.1 is pleasure to read books on..

The rest is about the same. True, the new s note is pretty bad.. but i use lecturenotes exclusively anyway.. much better note taking app.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Itchiee:
Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.

The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better! :p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] omneity:
It was the much improved screen resolution that persuaded me to upgrade from the gen 1 Note 10.1, the screen on the 2014 is leagues ahead. When I bought the original note I never envisaged using it for much reading, but thanks to Taptu, Pocket, EZpdf and Moon Reader, I used it far more than I expected for reading. The 2014 has a whole more grown-up feel to it (this is probably also helped because I've bought a black one this time around!). the original note was a very good tablet, the 2014 is a fantastic tablet.

I did have a small amount of lag when I first got the 2014, but this has gone by reducing the animation settings. Yes it's a great upgrade to the original Note 10.1 IMHO, but of course this may depend if your expectations differ.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Itchiee:
After tweaking (aka stopping Samsungs 10 million programs from running in the background constantly) this tablet has been perfect. I understand them doing it for the popular "experience" but you know us on this website aren't your average users..so I don't need the dog and pony show lol. Which why lag is gone and battery lasts longer.

I've had about 8 tablets in my life, this has been the best, and not just because it's the newest. It has everything I need. High res, long battery, runs everything, built quality (my 3rd samsung tablet and they finally got build down), great size and weight....sd card.

Honestly I don't care about the pen I'm just a tablet fan.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Bulbous:
I've just upgraded mine, and I would recommend it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] AIRA18:
Well Worth it

coming from the 2012 Note 10.1, i must say it was worth the upgrade. Sold my old note 10.1 for the 2014 edition and never look back. Although the S-Note app in the previous 2012 model is more user-friendly