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[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
Lol, I guess I should have mentioned that part. Without a Doubt the Toq is best out of Box. Its companion app has everything I needed (Except Tasker integration) without having to buy and/or wait for 3rd party apps. If the SDK for the Toq is release soon and Dev start cranking out apps, the Toq is a guaranty to be the Top Smartwatch in my opinion.
[Other SmartWatches] acid123:
Can you check what brightness level you have while outside in day light and also how long does it last on a single charge,

Cheers
[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
Brightness level outside?? Not sure what exactly you mean but outside in a sunny Miami day I can read my Toq watch as easily as I can read a piece of paper. :victory:

Battery life has been amazing I'm at 5 days with 14% battery left. I haven't shut it off once in the last 5 days.
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
WOW, you gotta be kidding me? That is very impressive!!! Do you get a lot of email/txt/call notification during the day? Also, do you unpair it at night or keep it paired up 24-7? I know with my MetaWatch once the watch is far away from the phone, my phone keeps searching for it non-stop which drains battery on my Note 2 lol!!! So, every night I unpair my MW and N2.

Also forgot to ask, from the pictures, can you tell if Toq is tinner than SW2 or not? It definitely looks thinner than Pebble.
[Other SmartWatches] Penguin-PC:
But can it....

Can it run google maps? I want to be able to wear it while I'm on my motorcylce and glance at it once in a while instead of only having audio telling me how close I am. Thanks and congrats on the new watch!
[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
Its slightly thinner then the Sony SW2 and it finally run out of battery this morning. It almost lasted 6 straight days, I never turned it off :victory:. I receive about 15-25 calls on a normal day and at least 20-30 personal emails and about 30-50 work email on any given work day. I also played around with it a lot the first day. It definitely has better battery life then the Sony SW2 and equal or slightly better battery then the pebble. :good:

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I know the Sony SW2 had a 3rd party app that ran a lite version on Google maps. The Toq doesnt have any thing like that (yet).

Update: found the Maps app for SW2: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bytewiese.smartwatch2.gpsmap2&hl=en
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
By work email do you mean from Exchange server? That is my big concern, to be able to get notification from home (POP account), GMail (IMAP), and work (Exchange).
[Other SmartWatches] chortya:
As far the notification is shown on your phone it will be also shown on Toq as simpke as that. You can select the apps you want notification in the Toq app on the phone.

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[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
I use Outlook Web Mobile to Access my work email on my phone and since the Toq app lets you set Notifications for any app I use it to send my Work Email's Headline/Subject line to my Toq Watch.
[Other SmartWatches] dre1187:
Has anyone had issues with their phone no longer locking after setting up phone to work with toq? Also for some reason weather data isn't being pulled anyone else having this happen?
[Other SmartWatches] vagelis:
No issues in my configuration.

T-Mo Galaxy Note 3 on at&t (DarthStalker v.4) and Toq.

Also simultaneously connecting to a fitbit force and (when needed) 2014 Mazda 3 or Jabra Supreme headset.
[Other SmartWatches] dre1187:
Hmm I got the weather working but for some reason my phone no longer works...I'm running nexus 4 with latest aospa :/

Edit: reflashed ROM and all is working properly
[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
No issues with my Verizon LG G2 and toq.

Have your tried restarting your Toq and your phone??
[Other SmartWatches] imstill@g:
I easily go 4 days, but to charge it is so convenient as it goes into airplane mode as it charges. So zero need to unpair it. The Toq is thinner than the sw2, as the battery is party of the clasp on the band. I've had the watch for about 3 weeks. Hands down favorite.

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Currently does not run maps, I'd suggest you get an xgrip mount for your bike. Great accessory for riding
[Other SmartWatches] JOHNGAETANO:
Ordered a Toq

I get my Toq tomorrow. I'm excited to see how it works with my Nexus 5.

I am also curious to see how it stacks up against the Galaxy Gear and Pebble.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
my toq

have had the toq for 3 weeks and love it. yes you do have to be careful when sizing since you do have to cut the strap. the battery is in the clasp so the watch itself is thin. can see it in braod daylight. powerwise ive gone up to 7 days withoutrecharging with normal usage. a great smartwatch. paid 280 on ebay.
[Other SmartWatches] gdubb03:
I've had mine since x mass and i love it. It does last a long time. I do wish it had some voice integration to be able to respond to texts and emails or to just tell it to call. I agree that some type of Google integration whether it be maps or now would be awesome.

I did have the weather and pairing issues a couple of times that some of you guys were talking about. All i did was either reset the Bluetooth on my phone or watch, soft reset the phone, or put the Toq into airplane mode. All theses methods have worked for me. I have found that prolonged distancing of the devices causes these drops of connection.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Just got mine today and love it so far. I really like the ability to push any notification from apps that I want to the watch, including Foursquare, Facebook, Email and so on.

However, some thoughts and some concerns:

- Love how slim it is, make it very attractive and more wearable.

- I really like the box, make Sony Smartwatch 2 and Galaxy Gear look like toys.

- The watch itself doesnt look cheap and/or geek.

- No way I can change the weather to Celsius.

- Is this watch water resistant?

- What ever it does, it does very well. But still, needs more apps to open up its abilities to make it more fun.

- This watch cant be resold, unless the one that buy has a smaller wrist than mine :D

At the end, Toq might be the more expensive smart watch on the market right now but why I think it's worth?

- It does very well what it does.

- The first "consumer product" of Qualcomm since 1999.

- The first product uses mirasol screen that you can buy on the market.

- The look.

- This will be one of my collective stuffs when I no longer use it.
[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
Did any of you guys know that the Toq watch has a mic on its body? :confused:

I just found out from that Tech support that there's a Mic hole located on the body right where the strap has that "u" shape cut-out.

They will apparently activate it "Soon" with the release of the Wireless headsets to make and receive phone calls on the Watch.

This was all new News to me! :D
[Other SmartWatches] vagelis:
Indeed there's that microphone hole on the bottom 'u'... Who knew!
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
love the toq

great smartwatch. sold my pebble and i'm watch. only complaint is email notifications. if they come in seperately and at different times you can read the full email. if you get multiples at once, you can only see a one line entry for them. needs to be fixed.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
After using Smarwatch 1 and 2, Toq is the first one that I got told "Your watch looks nice" multiple times in a day, hahaha
[Other SmartWatches] ShaggyDragon:
Very little activity in the Toq thread - this can't be a good thing? Also, I can't find an official forum for support or for future development. Is there one? I really like the look of this watch, but I don't want to buy if there's no community behind it.
[Other SmartWatches] dre1187:
That could be for two reasons firstly being that the device is solid from the get go as well as no SDK has been released yet. I am sure once SDK happens their will be more activity. I have toq now and it works awesome and I get about 5-7 days on a charge which is pretty awesome
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
You also forgot to mention, "once a price drops to around $200-$250" ;) They did drop it to $299 as part of CES sale, but I think it went back up. Even with SDK release, high price will put it out of reach for a lot of people.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
There're some clock faces that change its white and black background regularly. Does anyone know the rule of it? Like when it's black or white or completely random?
[Other SmartWatches] vagelis:
Those watchfaces flip every 20 minutes or so. It has something to do with prolonging the life of the Mirasol display
[Other SmartWatches] discomega:
From toq support:

As to the changing of color, the clock faces that you can not change manually, changes every 10 minutes automatically to avoid screen burning.

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[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
I'm waiting for the god damn SDK. But while the price is high and the user-base is tiny, devs wouldnt be bothered!:(
[Other SmartWatches] Stewall:
TOQ strap idea

I've set my Toq strap up with a piece of strong Velcro so I haven't had to cut the strap - in case I need to sell it later, I won't be restricted to the size of the potential buyer.

It doesn't look out of place and holds very firmly.

Working well with my Note2, (T889) Android 4.3 :good:
[Other SmartWatches] joedeveloper:
Picture? that sounds like an awesome idea.
[Other SmartWatches] vagabond67:
Have had mine for three weeks now and I'm very satisfied with this watch.

Pros:

- color, always on, highly legible in bright lights, even in direct sunlight.

- I've never used the internal light, unless I'm in total darkness.

- battery life lasts me up to seven days. I put it in airplane mode when I go to sleep at night.

- wireless charging is a killer feature. Just put the watch on top of the "dock". No hassle.

- choosing what apps you want a notification for is so easy and works great,

- best looking smart watch right now. I catch people staring at my wrist all the time.

Cons:

- having to cut the strap.

- no third party apps yet.

- pricey.

- wish there was a way to keep the screen on "notification" mode until you actually dismiss it. When an alert comes on the screen, it goes off after probably ten to fifteen seconds and the watch goes back to the watch face. If you miss the vibration, there's no way of telling an alert came in, unless you activate the menu.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Just found out an con. When the apps that set to have notification get updated, it will be unchecked in the notification option and I have to go there to check it again to make to to receive the notification from the apps I want.
[Other SmartWatches] vagabond67:
Yeah, noticed this too. Was wondering why some apps stopped their notifications on the watch. Only realized that this happened after an auto update on the phone of these apps.
[Other SmartWatches] system02:
Does anybody know if it is water resistant? Can I hold it under a faucet or would that be the last action done with a TOQ?

I've bought a black one from ebay and I can clearly smell the pre owners' shower gel or s.th. like that - and I do NOT like that smell! :D
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Unfortunately, no.

You can't even use it under the rain.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
guys, it's update time. 1.3.0 firmware has been released with some new and weird features. And I like it more when now I can see the weather in Celcius :good::good::good:
[Other SmartWatches] discomega:
Nice update. Added clock faces and celcius. Now 24 hour time and a released sdk and we are home. Sweet. ?

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[Other SmartWatches] JohnnyHempseed:
It is waterproof...I get mine wet all of the time. I certainly wouldn't go diving with it or anything.
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
Sounds more like splashproof?
[Other SmartWatches] system02:
Thanks! Do you hold it under a faucet (watch and wristband with battery)? Or which part of the watch? And how wet is wet? ;)
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Above quotes are the water resistant rating. Toq isnt even considered as 1ATM water resistant.

And the following quote is the reply from Toq to me

So guys, your Toq is not water resistant at all.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Just found a bug with the activity tracker. I shut down the watch in the evening. When I turn it on on the morning after, the tracker continues with the score from yesterday when it should have reset to start a new day.
[Other SmartWatches] vagabond67:
What do you mean by shut down?

I normally turn off Bluetooth on the watch every night. Is that what you mean by shut down?
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
No, "shut down" means that I actually went into the "settings" on the watch and choose to shut down it.

Btw, just got updated today with bugs fixed and found the new menu as in the attachment. Cant wait to see third party applet. Has the SDK been released already?
[Other SmartWatches] dre1187:
SDK was released earlier today!
[Other SmartWatches] Cero92:
Hello, i really like the Toq, but i'm concerned about the watch strap. I know you have to literally cut it to fit your wirst. Any way to change the strap if you have to?
[Other SmartWatches] discomega:
Cut the wristband was simple. IF you are unsecure just cut it one piece at a time and try it on after each cut. Nothing to it. ?

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[Other SmartWatches] Cero92:
Sure, I just would like to know if it's possible to replace it without having to buy another Toq
[Other SmartWatches] discomega:
You cant replace it yourself as far as I know. You have to send it into service to do that

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
The strap has battery and the touch sensor, so you cant replace it on your own. You cant find spare parts anywhere either.
[Other SmartWatches] Teejai80:
They have dropped the price!

Qualcomm Toq gets a $100 price drop - Now available for $249 http://www.smartwatchfans.com/qualcomm-toq-gets-100-price-drop-now-available-249
[Other SmartWatches] vagelis:
Makes us early adopters feel a bit like idiots now, but it's great for new potential users ...
[Other SmartWatches] Teejai80:
Let's hope more users equals more devs and applets
[Other SmartWatches] synplex:
Now that the SDK is out can any Dev pls make a Tasker app :victory:
[Other SmartWatches] mhoepfin:
Is anyone's screen a little off center? Just got mine and it is driving me nuts. It is a little bit crooked, especially noticeable with the backlight on.
[Other SmartWatches] mhoepfin:
I sent a note to Amazon and they are shipping me another one. Great watch though, prefer it to my Gear and Pebble.
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
What kind of functionality were you looking for specifically?
[Other SmartWatches] Cero92:
Hello, do you know something about third part apps?

My main concerns are non-standard notifications, like WhatsApp. Do them work?

Watchfaces are developed by third parts develpers (like Pebble) or can only be added by Qualcomm?
[Other SmartWatches] Teejai80:
I would just like to be able to launch a task from the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
I meant specifically. What tasks? My toq gets here tomorrow.
[Other SmartWatches] Teejai80:
Oh, I have one to load specific playlists and one to open the garage door.
[Other SmartWatches] hallevison:
Hi everyone:

When on a call, I would like to be able to switch my phone to the speaker from the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
I will work on a tasker for the toq. Don't expect much as I currently have a huge project to work on and uni, but feel free to pm me your requests.
[Other SmartWatches] aleekwen:
http://augmentedtraffic.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/qualcomm-toq-smartwatch-augmented-smartwatch-pro/

takser tasks now support for the Toq!
[Other SmartWatches] mikereidis:
Android Wear for Qualcomm TOQ

So, a "number" of OEMs are using Qualcomm SOCs for their Android Wear devices.

So my guess would be that Qualcomm TOQ is a "reference platform" for Android Wear.

Whatd'ya think ?
[Other SmartWatches] benji241:
I really hope so. The toq is a very good watch but this would make it even better.
[Other SmartWatches] MGREX:
Speaking of which why so few mirasol devices?

Is the screen tech too expensive?
[Other SmartWatches] Fencesitter:
Has no one else heard the rumor that the Toq doesn't even use a Qualcomm processor? It's always referred to as an "ARM Cortex M3 200MHz" processor. One site even said it wasn't a Snapdragon. But I heard that Qualcomm doesn't even make that low end of an ARM chip.

Also, some site claims the Toq uses a Thread X RTOS.

So, since the Toq doesn't use a Qualcomm processor, and it doesn't even run Android (though it _could_ be made to), I find it hard to believe the Toq would be an Android Wear reference platform.

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Hi, I dropped in here since Google search led me here while I was looking for applets.

Anyway, there any number of reasons why Mirasol isn't used more:

It's an unproven technology

The colors are a bit dull

Burn in is so much of an issue they need to invert the colors every ten minutes. Really, the inverting colors can get a bit annoying.

And that doesn't even touch upon price, availability, customizability, etc. since I'm not familiar with those aspects.
[Other SmartWatches] MGREX:
Man those are some serious issues right there, knew about the colors tho that's an acceptable tradeoff for the daylight use and battery savings, but the burn-in it's a deal-breaker, no wonder there isn't even one phone using it.

Any alternatives? Was pixelqi display any different?
[Other SmartWatches] Fencesitter:
Well, it's hard as a user to tell whether there really is a burn in issue. The watch firmware itself is pretty aggressive about frequently inverting the display so that there is no noticeable burn in. Nonetheless, Qualcomm considers it enough of a potential issue to warrant special measures.

This also leads one to wonder if this will cause long term problems. Is the inverting of the display to even out the wear on the pixels? Or is it more like LCDs that frequently (on the order of 1-100Hz) reverse the polarity on the pixels/segments to prevent the liquid crystals from setting in one position? If the former, then you might be looking at a degradation of the display. If the latter, then there probably is no problem and you might even have other options to exercise the pixels (occasionally flashing them briefly, possibly fast enough not to be visible; jiggle the image; whatever)

But yeah, I haven't heard from Pixel Qi for a while. Their website only shows 10" and 7" screens, but that doesn't mean they can't make smaller sizes.
[Other SmartWatches] dogmaticvox:
The TOQ is absolutely a reference design. Qualcomm has no interest in selling a product to the masses - it's interest is in getting other companies to license and purchase the tech - namely Mirasol Displays in this case.
[Other SmartWatches] mikereidis:
Yes. But for Android Wear ?

And that's why it's been perplexing as to why they are selling it as retail.

Maybe to get it into the hands of some small or independent software developers ? Without all the usual overhead that large companies can muster, with lawyers, NDAs and all that ?
[Other SmartWatches] dogmaticvox:
Yup. This was from a recent press release the other week from Qualcomm:

"Earlier today Google announced Android Wear, an extension of the Android operating system for smartwatches and other wearable devices. We’re excited to share that we’ve been working behind the scenes with Google, and our OEM customers, to enable the development of a number of Android Wear-based devices that will be powered by Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ processors."

I'm sure showing OEM customers how Mirasol works IRL is an attempt to have them adopt both the display and the procs.
[Other SmartWatches] mikereidis:
Nobody seems to know exactly what SOC is in the TOQ. At least I couldn't find it in this thread, nor through several minutes of Google searching. Yes it's a Qualcomm chip. But is it "Snapdragon" ? And will it be capable of running Android Wear ?

MY big questions are:

- Is or will there be a way to run Wear on TOQ ?

- If so, will ROMs be released before other Wear devices become available ?

AFAIK, nobody has posted publicly the answers to these questions. I'm beginning to think the answers are "No".

My interest is in having hardware to work with before Google I/O, where I presume the first Wear watches will be handed out.
[Other SmartWatches] dre1187:
Has anyone else had an issue where the screen is just blank? If I put on charger the lights to illuminate screen will blip

Scenario: battery was at about 9% @ noon. At around 5pm same day watch screen went blank and I was able to turn lights on then it turned off...I have placed on charger overnight and even hit reset button twice still nothing...any ideas would be appreciated
[Other SmartWatches] Penguwin:
Can't say I have ever run into this problem with mine... Perhaps a email to Qualcomm or tweet to [MENTION=3567913]Toq[/MENTION]Support is in order.

I've also had good luck getting a quick response on their support site here: https://toq.qualcomm.com/support/contact-us
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
200MHz ARM Cortex M3 based (Not Snapdragon)

Edit: 16MB of Ram. This thing will never run android wear. It is a miracle it runs anything at all!

Probably why the SDK is so limited
[Other SmartWatches] mikereidis:
:)

And the other day we found out there's a microphone in there...
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
I know right! I was so surprised when I got the update yesterday. Who includes unused hardware in a design? What else does this have? And IR blaster?
[Other SmartWatches] mikereidis:
This is reasonably common actually. Not unlike the extra cores that can be enabled in desktop CPUs, or over-clocking headroom.

Virtually ALL phones have a BT/WiFi/FM combo chip. But over 50% of phones disable FM by grounding the FM antenna pin. Some phones even have the FM antenna pin connected, but the FM app is not installed.

A couple of phones can even transmit FM. The myTouch was going to be released with transmit, but the carrier changed their mind for some reason. I have 2 of these phones and the app that was never released; it works fine, except signal is weak.

Often times the BT/WiFi chip supports better standards than the software allows. A lot of this is (I think) due to engineer time constraints. Phone OEM dev schedules are pushed to the limit in this very fast moving market.
[Other SmartWatches] aeppacher:
Yeah I am just thinking for this case it doesn't make much sense thinking of the constraints of the project. You are restricted in storage (2GB for everything), physical form, and battery. I just don't feel at any point I would have added an unused piece of hardware knowing that I was against those main problems.

My idea is the voice integration was always planned but they weren't able to get it functioning from the get go, or they didn't know how to approach it. Perhaps they were trying to make it local on the watch but weren't able to with the limited hardware and eventually just said ah screw it, put a 15 second timer on it and have it stream the audio to the phone for analysis.
[Other SmartWatches] khoaitaychienvn:
Let bring it up for some love :)