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[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Good to see the ongoing improvements. I currently have installed:

1. milaq's CM11 4.4.2 ROM v.11-20131226 (kernel 2.635)

2. CWM v.6.0.3.6

Could someone please post a "step-by-step" upgrade process from this version to Milaq's most recent CM11 nightly (cm-11-20140108-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin.zip).

I've just done the following:

1. Generated a nandroid backup using the above cwm.

cwm shows the backup was saved to /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. But when booted into Android the backup file appears in the /data/media/clockworkmod directory (using X-plore and ES File Explorer).

2. Downloaded the cm-11-20140108 zip to the TouchPad

3. Downloaded the cwm 6.0.4.6 zip to the TouchPad

(Using X-plore and ES File Manager, both zip files are currently observed in /sdcard/Download AND in /data/media/0/Download)

Notes: At my present location I don't have a PC or laptop at my disposal so have to do all with the TouchPad.

And having to use a slow cell data connection so I need to carefully manage my bandwidth until I return to my broadband zone. That is, I wish to avoid mistakes downloading/installing/flashing etc.

Questions:

1. How do I upgrade cwm 6.0.3.6 to cwm 6.0.4.6 (with no PC at my disposal)?

2. Can cwm 6.0.4.6 restore a nandriod backup created with cwm 6.0.3.6, if needed?

3. Where should I copy my nandroid backup in case the ROM flash process goes awry or I have to restore the previous install?

4. Once cwm 6.0.4.6 is installed I assume I flash cm-11-20140108 within cmw 6.0.4.6. What are the steps to do this?

Since "install zip from sdcard" will no longer be available in the new cwm 6.0.4.6, I assume "install zip from sideload" will be the menu item to choose to flash the ROM. But as I don't have a PC available to do this, how can I sideload?

As you can see the previous conversion to "data media" storage configuration stall has me confused, and now the new ROM not supporting "data media" has confused me even more, in regards to upgrading the recovery and flashing the new ROM. And then sideloading without a PC available has me even more puzzled. But I wish to learn ;)

So if anyone knowledgeable can be kind enough provide SPECIFIC steps, I suspect many would be appreciative.
[TouchPad Development] valery.m:
I've upgraded CWM 6.0.3.6 to 6.0.4.6 via ROM Manager, but i think, it's possible to do via CWM itself.

Also, I've upgraded ROM via CWM 6.0.4.6 exactly from "install zip from sdcard".
[TouchPad Development] Gil1957:
Just wondering if you set it higher than the recommended amount and what they were?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
After reviewing my notes from a previous upgrade... using ROM Toolbox I copied the cmw 6.0.4.6 image file over the cmw 6.0.3.6 in the /boot directory. (But first I had to delete TWRP, as having both recoveries installed apparently was taking too much space in /boot folder).

Then rebooted and launched cmw 6.0.4.6, where I wiped the cache partition and chose "install zip" and was pleasantly surprised to observe "choose zip from /sdcard" still available in the menu. Then drilled down to /sdcard/0/Download to locate the nightly ROM zip I previously downloaded. And I chose install. And then at the end of the install observed "install from sdcard complete".And rebooted.

That was too EZ!!!

Now I get to test! And wifi promptly connected and Play Store alerts me that I have only 2.50GB space left. I'm now finally seeing the limitation with this unexpanadable 16GB device (with WebOS and KitKat installed). Eventually I think WebOS will have to be removed from this device, if that is possible. How I yearn to have my 32GB TouchPad which was recently stolen (along with my fairly new HP laptop, etc). Thieives are aholes.

And all the new permissions the new Facebook app update requires is outlandish. Thanks CM Privacy Guard!
[TouchPad Development] Atlasstorm:
Is anyone else having issues with Netflix? It just sits at the loading screen. Interesting enough though I can chromecast
[TouchPad Development] 4GivenByChrist:
It was mentioned two pages back...
[TouchPad Development] MikeFRG:
Any information about the latest nightly 8/1?

Iam on 3/1 and its running fine.

Any improofments in the latest?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Silpher:
I had this problem too. Did a search for "Clockworkmod windows adb driver" and I came up with this site: http://downdrivers.com/down-driver-clockworkmod-universal-android-adb-driver.html. Installed, and adb could find my Touchpad.

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Nope. Exact same as listed in OP. I have a 16 gig TP, so data ended up around 11.4GB.
[TouchPad Development] martyrtek:
Lost Partition?

Had the 1/3 Experimental build installed and it was working good. Installed the daily update this morning of 1/8 Unofficial, and just noticed that i seem to have lost a partition or some space. FreeSpace now reads my partitions as:

Cache 200MB

Internal Data 1.5 GB

Lib 32MB

System 600MB

Before applying the 1/8 Unofficial, I had an sdcard1 of 11.5GB. But now that's gone? I'll try the next update to see if it fixes it.

All in all thought, excellent job. No black bars or anything.
[TouchPad Development] allstar319:
Read this

You'll either need to manually mount the old external sd (sdcard1), or resize your partitions as suggested in the OP. I forgot about doing that myself, and ended up asking the same thing and this is what Milaq replied with.
[TouchPad Development] dudemaaan:
Just installed latest 1/8/14 my screen orientation is upsidedown in horizontal position. How can I fix this? Like like this https://code.google.com/p/cmtouchpad/issues/detail?id=405
[TouchPad Development] captainmorris:
Thanks again Milaq for the great ROM! Aside from the known issues, like BT, camera, and Netflix, everything is running well. I do have one question about partitioning. For those of us with 32GB touchpads, is there any benefit to performance in increasing the Android Cache partition from 200MB up to xxxxMB? I have tried setting it to 2GB, and all was very smooth. I now have it set to 512MB, and things seem slightly more laggy, but this could very likely be all in my head, or the ROM needs time to settle down...I just don't know! I guess the short question is, is there any benefit to increasing the android cache partition, if one has the space to do so? Thanks in advance!
[TouchPad Development] TJude:
Trying to download from Milaq.exnet but it.s only grabbing about 100k of the file and then deciding.it's done. Ideas?
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
I'm running 01.08.14 and auto rotation working correctly. Settings > Accessibility > Auto-rotate screen (checked)

Not sure if it matters but I'm running Nova Launcher.

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For this ROM (01.08.14 nightly) what would be the "performance" settings recommends for a 16GB TP. My current (default) settings are:

Processor:

CPU Governor: "interactive"

Min CPU Freq: 384MHz

Max CPU Freq: 1188MHz

Set on Boot - Unchecked

I/O Scheduler: "Row"

Set on Boot - Unchecked

Memory Mgmt:

Allow purging of assests - Unchecked

Kernel samepage merging - Unchecked

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Apollo player doesn't rotate on launch. But after opening another app while music track is playing (e.g. DSP Manager) and then choosing Apollo from notification menu (upper right corner), Apollo displays in proper orientation and rotates correctly.

Someone please post to this thread ASAP once BlueTooth is enabled/fixed. Until then I have to revert to previous ROM version with working BT. Even for basic testing I need to employ my HP BT keyboard and BT headset.

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Question: A recent entry in Milaq's change log shows "usb otg: should be usb subfolder".

So does the current ROM allow supports "USB On the Go". If so, any examples of how that feature can be utilized on the TouchPad? And where is good source for USB OTG cables that work with the TouchPad?
[TouchPad Development] highlander2k:
I have set mine using Tailor as:-

System:- 2Gb (didn't want to be changing again and wanted plenty of space)

Cache:- 400Mb

Data:- 8.5Gb (Shows as SD Card using ES Filemanager / Internal in Settings/Storage)

Media:- 16Gb (This should be the External SD Card)

I will go back in at some point and increase the Data size to most likely 16Gb - need to work out how much space to leave for WebOS, does anyone know.

Everything runs smooth however the Keyboard seems a bit slow at times but don't think it is anything to do with the above.

;)
[TouchPad Development] rsriram22:
how can i mount the ext sd card.. i dont see it in es file explorer.. so go the good ol' terminal session route..? what would the command be?

TIA
[TouchPad Development] sunscape:
Lol, no, rotation is reversed in landscape, but fine in portrait.
[TouchPad Development] dudemaaan:
I tried nova, same thing. I've done a full wipe and cleared caches reinstalled and it's still upsidedown in landscape. I was running evervolv prior and it was working in there, I'm going to try 9.1.14, maybe my other DL was corrupt.

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9.1.14 is the same , going to try older versions. Does anyone know if there's a zip I could flash to fix it? Or build. prop edit?
[TouchPad Development] captainmorris:
I'm using the Google Experience Launcher and rotation has been working fine...for the most part! One time, when I pick the pad up off of the charging stone, the orientation flipped and would not correct. I turned of auto rotation and moved on. I decided to reboot the pad and turn auto rotation back on...all was well again. That problem has not recurred...yet! Fingers crossed!
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
this is due to the mpu3050 merge from yesterday.

fixed it already, should be good again in tonights build.
[TouchPad Development] dudemaaan:
Thanks for the response, I had no idea what was going on
[TouchPad Development] FunTanK:
Thanks for your tips, worked fine for me.

Thanks to Milaq for the hard work!

I have some strange things happening in cm-11-20140108.

- Streaming Videos and/or Audio (Youtube/Spotify) does not work at all

- random reboots / app crashes

- Screen Alignment and/or Position of UI-Elements seems to be a little off from time to time

I did not find any of this glitches here in the thread. Any hints ?

thanks,

t.

P.S. Updating to 09/01 did not change anything

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I have exactly the same atm in 1/9

When I start voice search there is only "Initializing" forever ....
[TouchPad Development] suzib6sw:
Go into settings, select sound, it may freeze and not show anything.. Leave it there.. It should come back out with the "Settings has stopped working" .. Reboot about 5 times.. let it come up fully each time..

then try the "Ok Google"..

1/9/14 is working without issue today.. No reboots needs.. Just flashed the zip, cleared cache and dalvik, rebooted and let it come up fully, went to settings, sound.IT showed me the volume , quiet hours etc. closed, Said ok google and it heard me and i asked the usual, "what is the distance from the earth to the moon" and off it went and spoke the reply..
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
[MENTION=3158799]MikeFRG[/MENTION],

Germany?
[TouchPad Development] FunTanK:
This morning I started the device, got some google-updates (gmail, google search + 2 more) and everything works fine now...

(Of course I did restart /cleared cache/dalvik / checked for updates yesterday numerous times)

Thanks for help!

t.
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
Try using either Firefox or Dolphin browser to download, Chrome Browser has had a problem with downloading for weeks now.
[TouchPad Development] tbob18:
Awesome! Seems to work great so far. I did encounter a strange bug where the battery just dropped to 0% and shut down even though the battery was fully charged, but it only happened once shortly after I flashed the rom.

Also, Netflix does work, you just need to downgrade to 2.4.0 (2.4.1 does not work), 3.x seems to get stuck on "loading".

Edit: The build.prop workaround seems to improve quality on 2.4.0 as well.
[TouchPad Development] allstar319:
No clue to be honest, little rusty in that regard. Maybe someone else can be of help. :(
[TouchPad Development] graffix31:
i only download through chrome and have no issues
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Which directory on which partition is your browser configured to download to? Could you (the original poster) be running out of file space?
[TouchPad Development] galyenrc:
I'd be interested in this as well, as I've now noticed I'm "missing" some stuff I forgot to move over before I resized everything.

Thanks in advance!
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
Indeed, it appears after upgrading from Milaq CM11 (2.6 Kernel) to Milaq CM11 (3.0 Kernel) Android is no longer able to access /external_sd (aka (/storage/sdcard1) which is the WebOS USB (media) (aka /media/internal) partition.

Note that a 16GB TouchPad without an physical SD slot creates significant storage limitations. So it was really nice that previous CM11 ROMs for the TouchPad were capable of accessing the available 1.5GB in /external_sd

I understand Milaq doesn't post very often and in a recent post suggested he does not use WebOS. But If he is developing a ROM for the HP TouchPad Tenderloin userbase (rather than just for himself) it would have been good if, BEFORE posting the Tenderloin ROM update with the memory access limitation, he had posted clear information that his new CM11 3.0 Kernel ROM update (and/or his recovery version) disregards WebOS space and users should be aware/beware.

Rather than edit the existing ROM thread title (from the previous 2.6 Kernel ROM version to [3.0 Kernel], would have been best to initiate a new separate ROM thread to specifically support the 3.0 kernel ROM version, and then post NEW ROM issues to look out for in the new thread OP.

On a related note selecting "Mount USB Storage" from the CWM 6.0.4.6 "Mounts & Storage" menu does not do anything.

Questions:

• Is there another recovery available which mounts and provides access the /external_sd partition?

• Anyone know if a future CM11 ROM (3.x kernel) and/or recovery update will be able to access /external_sd ?

But for now I guess I will attempt to revert to my previous ROM install (CM11 Kernel 2.6) which supported access to /external_sd. And then will get Bluetooth and Camera back as well.

P.S. I do appreciate Milaq's efforts. Just would be nice to observe announces of significant changes whenever new/updated ROM builds are published. Such information helps the testing effort.
[TouchPad Development] texastutt:
Woodytrain, If you read the original post and understood what the partion was about. What Kk does to work, then you would have not used this ROM, this was a big step for the TP above what anyone expected to get out of a 3 year old "clunker"
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
?????

I have full access to all memory available. Read before posting please. However your politeness is appreciated.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
We are all testing this ROM and posting for the benefit of the community. You are being presumptuous in assuming I did not read or comprehend the OP. No need to be defensive.

In the OP there is absolutely no reference that access to /external_sd was going away when the ROM build with the 3.0 Kernel was released .

Just a brief note that access was going away would have been good for all, don;t you agree?

I hope you understand the need to increase the size of both the /system and /data partitions are completely separate issues, and separate from the issue of not being able to mount/access the WebOS USB (media) partition or access the filesystem within?

It appears Milaq unilaterally decided to no longer support that functionality (see his previous post). And I can understand that if he is not a WebOS user (or a TouchPad user).

Anyway, the various other Tenderloin ROM developers (e.g. invisiblek, flemmard, evervolv) are working to provided access to /external_sd. I suspect Milaq will be jumping on board with the idea, as well, once an updated recovery is more fully baked.

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Read what before posting? Are you also presuming I did not read the full OP? What causes you to think I did not? Please be specific.

Are you suggesting you can access /external_sd ? If so which ROM Build? And how do you know you have access? Please be specific.

I was not making any attempt to be "polite", one way or the other. Just posting specific and objective observations concerning Milaq's CM11 01.08.14 build. Nothing personal.
[TouchPad Development] graffix31:
Not for nothing and I don't mean to be rude but he is the builder and can unilaterally do what he wants. That's what comes with doing it yourself. You sound very ungrateful. Like was said the fact that we have kitkat on a touchpad is insane and with the 3.x kernel work even more of a feet. If you want a build the way you want it the build one and share with everyone. Milaq has done more for the touchpad along with the others than ever thought possible. I love being a long for the ride and take what I can get and couldn't be happier.
[TouchPad Development] woodytrain:
In the OP: "Yet, the sdcard partition is also mounted and can be used for file usage (deprecated). "

Note that "(deprecated)" was appended to that sentence recently. Would be good that significant edits/updates to the OP, such as this one, be highlighted.

At any rate, in the recent builds, /external_sd is no longer mounted as /storage/sdcard1 and therefore can no longer be accessed by Android.

If you observe otherwise please post a screenshot including Build date/version.

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Of course he can. Who would you suggest otherwise? And really I don't care if you are being rude or not. I don't take anything here personal. I recommend you do the same.

I make suggestions to add to the information database (or make reference to the lack thereof) so others can learn from my experience. Take it or leave it.

Why would you suggest such? You miss the mark completely. But if you wish to interpret my post(s) that way, that is your issue and your prerogative. Apparently you missed reading my reference of appreciation to Milaq, and others.

Ditto.

But those feelings aside, that does not preclude anyone, including me, from commenting on the lack of information about the builds or the lack of highlighting an announcement of a significant feature change from previous builds. I'm sure you are aware of the numerous testers posting to this thread and elsewhere with the same question, asking why they are not being able to access /external_sd.

A simple answer to such current questions might be "there is nothing wrong with your install. Rather the ROM builder decided to make the feature change". Indeed that is the ROM Builders prerogative. And again this is an just an objective comment.

Just a short little informative post about this feature change from a figure of authority would have saved everyone time and the boredom of reading my post.

At any rate, anyone installing this ROM Build be aware! Look forward to testing and commenting on future builds.
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
Just wondering, is the black box issue in browser and Gmail solved?

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] noradtux:
It is solved. Bluetooth and the camera are not usable, though.

Gesendet von meinem TouchPad mit Tapatalk
[TouchPad Development] lifeisfun:
Thanks!
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
No problem, no offense taken. I was referring to the fact that there are so many great informational threads available on how to tailor your storage in KitKat that it would be redundant to repost the info in the op. Agreed it might be helpful to add a link or two to get people to the info but as an end user it should always be your own responsibility to read read read everything you can and ask appropriate questions before flashing so you wind up with your intended results.

If it is simply a matter of access to webOS partition I apologize as yes that access appears denied in KitKat but there are work arounds. Personally I just boot to webOS if it is absolutely necessary and just copy the data externally then add it back to the appropriate folders in Android. So far there is nothing that critical that I have to have it available in both OS.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
You mean this from Jan. 7th?

Old 7th January 2014, 02:51 PM (Last edited by milaq; 7th January 2014 at 02:53 PM.) #512

milaq's Avatar Recognized Developer - OP

Thanks Meter 2003

"external sd" is legacy. we were really into making a smooth transition over to datamedia but it is time to move on.

i decided to _not_ mount it in the new builds. it causes confusion and is not needed anymore.

if you really need it you can still go ahead and mount it manually.

furthermore you can still 'adb sideload' any zips via usb (e.g. for an initial install).

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@woodytrain:

You posted"But If he is developing a ROM for the HP TouchPad Tenderloin userbase (rather than just for himself)"

You are way off base on this contention. The accepted practice in all these forums is the developer is developing for himself, not us. He is posting his work for us(out of the goodness of his or her heart) to try out if we choose to test and post any issues we find. You are out of line to come on here and chastise him for not warning of a change, especially since he did. Best way to cause all of use to loose the privilege of trying his Roms is to come on here and criticize his work. Milaq IMHO is one of the better developers when I comes to keeping the users apprised of his work. He has the best OP going!

I don't appreciate your comments and I'm sure the other users don't either. I would suggest an apology is in order and in the future, if you don't like his work, take your business elsewhere. :(
[TouchPad Development] googlephone:
First thank all the devs work.

Eating whatever the dev feeds you is not an user-friendly dev's move. Devs earn respect not only through the free work they devoted to the community but also from the humble attitude to users. I am 100% sure that he can earn more respect and no more complaints if he stated the big changes clearly. Especially when it's the only cm11 choice right now (invisiblek already closed his thread) for users, users have no other choices to try cm11.
[TouchPad Development] sunny5055:
I am stuck with set_metadata_recursive while i tried to flash the zip. After the root access is lost. sdcard does not mount.

So i uninstalled the build completely and tried to reinstall everytime it goes into boot loop. Anybody know hw to fix ?
[TouchPad Development] potatohead:
i m also looking for a way to mount external SD, any help in that dept is greatly appreciated :)

external SD mounts automatically in the recovery that i m using - TWRP 2.6.3.0, downloadable at invisiblek's site

http://invisiblek.org/tenderloin/openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.0-tenderloin-selinux.img

if u r more of a CWM person, u may want to give those hosted at his site a try, see if external SD is mounted

http://invisiblek.org/tenderloin/

for the time being, i m using his CM11 nightlies, external SD is mounted and all else r running great as with milaq's, only 'setback' is milaq uses a kernel that clocks the processor frequency at 1.5GHz max but invisiblek sticks to the official 1.2GHz :p

http://invisiblek.org/tenderloin/roms/cm11.0/datamedia/

do avoid discussing bugs encountered with invisiblek's roms here

great thanks to both devs :)