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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Devtodi:
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Is this the same version of 4.3 that my phone keeps trying to update?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2472664

Also supposedly there is a remove Knox zip on the same page - but I have heard that it doesn't work...

If I have it correctly, someone at XDA is dsigning a 4.3 update with Knox removed? Hope so. I am sick of the system update notification - it seems like it;s every five minutes...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Vanilla Bean:
I just recently got my GS3 for Boost. I'd been reading up on rooting methods and ROMs for this one but hadn't seen the 4.3 Knox warnings. Oops, I stepped right in it. Sure enough, after I rooted using the Team Epic Root kit, I was seeing "Unfortunately, superuser has stopped" at every attempt to reboot and every time su was needed. I flashed Philz Recovery and then installed SuperSU from the Play store. That didn't quite do it for me. I wasthen getting the popups telling me that binaries weren't installed, SuperSU couldn't install them, and to manually re-root, bla bla (paraphrased). I wiped and did a factory reset and then downloaded SuperSU (1.80 .zip) and flashed it. It prompted that Knox was present and it could try to fix it if I wanted... yup. It fixed it. I installed TB next just to check that it would ask for SU privilege to be granted and it did. So I have root but I'd like to actually remove the Knox files.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
Flash the ROM posted by jdsingle76 made for Boost and VM. It is stock 4.3 with no Knox apps and no Knox boot loader. If you already have Knox bootloader, as in your case, this won't remove it but will prevent it from interfering.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Devtodi:
Okay got the notifications off. Any good reason to update to 4.3? Currently on MD4.

Actually, notification is disabled but still getting pop-up notification with install now, install later option. Arg.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] JupiterOne:
EXCELLENT info, thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mzwizzle:
Since I'm stuck with the mk3 Knox-enabled bootloader, I can flash custom ROMs, just as long as they utilize the (regrettably permanent) mk3 bootloader?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dtr145r:
I tried to get cm installed last night and I managed to brick my phone.

I too would like to know if its possible to install cm on my phone with mk3...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] j00manji:
I have a similar question: whats the root method for this 4.3 mk3 knoxified thing, and am I only able to install touchwiz roms at this point?

:crying:I hate stock! aah!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
If you can care less for your warranty then flashing ROMS and kernels are no different than before you upgraded to 4.3. Your warranty bit will be set to 0x1 but everything else essentially remains the same. You can still flash any Android version to any ROM. you just can't downgrade your Knox-enabled bootloader.

The only issue you're likely to encounter are WiFi connection issues but there are more than enough fixes around for that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dtr145r:
ehhh. thats incorrect.flashing a cm rom will give you an assert error.

its easy to flash a tw based rom but cm wont allow you to on mk3 with knox trust me ive been trying to get around it for about 3 hours before i finally bricked my phone....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
You can still flash CM even on the MK3 bootloader. The issue seems to be the updated CWM recovery, which is based on the latest CM11 sources and prevents you from flashing zips before 4.4, unless you modify the updater script by removing the assert lines.

So I'll take a whirl and ask, did you happen to update CWM recovery to v6.0.4.5 and attempt to flash a non-Kitkat ROM? If so, then I'd suggest downgrading.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dtr145r:
using twrp 2.6.3.0

tried to flash cm 10.2
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
This is strictly on the CM side. Has absolutely nothing to do with KNOX. The updater script checks to see if you have one of the supported bootloaders and CM 10.2 being as old as it is now doesn't have support for the MK3 bootloader. The newer CM builds however do. You will need to remove the assert lines outright in order for a successful flash. I already have my modified zip of CM stable 10.2. I can upload and send via pm if you like and you should be good to go thereafter.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dtr145r:
hmmm. interesting. it does make sense. i wasnt sure when mk3 came out but when i got my replacement that is what was on it.

the cm site strongly advises against removing the assert script but if its due to the rom being older than the bootloader i guess that is an excepting.

i did try to remove the assert script but the rom wouldnt flash. i must have remover a little too much.

im downloading buth cm 10.2 and cm 11 right now. im going to compare the updater script and make the necessary changes to 10.2

i wont be able to try it out until next week when i get my other replacement in.

its a good thing samsung doesnt charge anything for reflashing a bricked phone. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
In Linux, you archive a set of files by placing them into one .tar file.

It's not compressed, it simple contains all the files one after the other as one large file.

For compression, you go an extra step and typically use gzip (or bzip) to get a .gz or .bz file.

In Windows, you can compress the .tar file using Zip.

Odin doesn't understand .ZIP files, so you have to give it uncompressed .tar files (sometimes ending with .md5).

Custom recoveries can handle .ZIP files, so you can load those that way.

Some programs, like fastboot, won't even handle .tar files, so they have to get straight image files .img.

These are not picture images. They are just all the information that will fit into a specific partition.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
Thanks for clarifying, I certainly didn't mean to imply I was using Odin for zip files!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Tromatic:
Samsung should have made the Knox issue front-and-center, so people could decide if they wanted to upgrade. In this thread alone are a dozen or more people who find themselves with a zeroed-out warranty and had no idea that would happen.

Is there a rock-solid way of preventing your phone from getting the OTA if you are on anything previous to the ob-knoxious ROM's? I don't care if they figure out how to get the phone to provide sexual favors, I'm not putting that crap on my phone.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mzwizzle:
Since I posted, I was able root AND install a KitKat Rom. Have ye no fear.

Root method: http://forums androidcentral com/sprint-galaxy-s-iii-rooting-roms-hacks/337722-possible-method-root-4-3-a-2.html#post3316290

This method did the trick and gained root for my 4.3 Knoxed phone. You'll have to put periods in the spaces of the link, because, as a fledgling member, I'm not allowed to post outside links :crying:

After this, I installed the 4.4 Beanstalk ROM without a hitch. The 4.3 version of Beanstalk wouldn't install, however, as the bootloader strangely wasn't in the assert lines of the updater script.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] j00manji:
can you please elaborate on the updater script thing? is that something that we the users have to do manually to the roms we want to flash now?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Check my post on the previous page.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trilfc:
I am trying to revert back to stock recovery. I have CWM installed on my phone right now, I had installed it through ROM manager.

I am running a rooted 4.3 on my S3 right now.

Will flashing the FULL stock MK3 tar file get me back to an unrooted state and take me back to stock recovery? I haven't found concrete help on this so far....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
The full MK3 official package will put you in Stock mode without root.

If you still want root after that, you have to apply the rooting patch.

Don't forget to install SuperSU and BusyBox as well.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trilfc:
Just checking, stock mode means stock recovery as well right???

Also, the way that I've rooted before, I've never used BusyBox nor have I ever found a reason to use it. I rooted my 4.3 S3 using the CF auto reboot method and then I installed SuperSU to gain root access. However, I didn't do anything after rooting and installing CWM recovery. Now I plan to get my phone back to stock (though I realize Knox has already been tripped and this can't be undone).

Would I need BusyBox if I decide to re-root my phone sometime in the future?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] xirnibor:
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so far knox has prevented me from being rooted, because everytime SU tries to load i get a stupid security error and it force closes. knox has prevented me from loading a custom recovery, because the stupid security error comes up and EVERY application force closes. titanium, busybox, su, goo manager, etc - i am using 4.3, and this knox crap is a nightmare.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
The official Android 4.3 package has everything in it: O/S, boot loader, modem, the works.

Some root-required apps will also want BusyBox installed, even if you don't have plans on using BusyBox yourself directly.

It all depends on how you want to use your device.

If you're only interested in phone calls and texting, then none of this is necessary.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Epicnole:
Sorry you have been having issues. Several others in this forum have been able to root, load SU, and load root programs without issues.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trilfc:
Well right now I'm mainly interested in making my phone faster. I've noticed annoying lags that came in with the 4.3 OTA update.

So as of now I'm trying to get a better understanding of the system so I can install a custom ROM without bricking my phone by doing something silly. I'm currently using CWM recovery, and I'm trying to switch back to stock recovery or TWRP (just to see how it works) but I'm stuck fml
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
As long as you don't install any package that contains a bootloader, you should be fine.

None of the custom ROM's (i.e. Jellybomb) contain bootloaders, so those should work for you.

Installing a custom recovery should work OK as well.

Not installing a bootloader will guarantee that Download Mode will always be available to you, so you can keep trying until something works.

In the event that Download Mode disappears, you can try booting from the external SD card.

To do that, you'll need to copy a working bootloader to your external SD card (which matches the size of your internal SD card).

There are threads about doing that, so follow them if needed.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trilfc:
Gotcha....I've understood what you've said so far but that beings be back to my original query....will flashing a FULL MK3 tar file (which does have the bootloader I'm presuming) cause my rooted S3 any problems? I intend to un-root my phone and reload stock recovery into it and take it back to just as it was right after the 4.3 OTA update, so I can wait until more noob-friendly guides for 4.3 rooting are available. (I do know Knox will still be tripped if I un-root but that isn't an issue)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
MK3 is the current stock package we're using now, the one with the Knox bootloader.

Installing this should work fine, and you won't have root after this.

You will have to install all your apps again, because the ones you have now will be erased.

Save any data you want to keep, including text messages and your contact list.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] trilfc:
Yeah, I've been on the top of my backups! Thanks muchos!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] galaxyworld:
On the exact same boat as you here. However, I recommend you don't try to update/repatch your stock rooted OS with the stock unrooted OS just yet because of potential Knox/bootloader complications until more people clarify on this issue.

Any suggestions guys? Will flashing stock unrooted MK3 tar via Odin cause any problems to a stock rooted MK3 with custom recovery?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] dtr145r:
it shouldnt.

flashing a full restore in odin shouldnt cause any problems...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
I think what everyone is wondering:

Where is the Support Group for Victims of Knox who are suffering from Psychological Trauma?

These people will need heavy therapy and treatment, and possibly religious guidance.

Can we set something like this up for our community?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] vfox126:
Sorry trying to figure out all this mk3, md4 business. Haven't used this phone in 3 or 4 months and thing have changed dramatically. I am rooted running 4.1.2 MOAR 4.something. took the update unknowingly. But nothing seemed to happen. In Odin mode nothing says anything about Knox. But my baseband version says L710VPUMK3. Is this where the mk3 comes from? Why am I not on 4.3? I now have problem flashing roms mainly 4.3 roms. Did I screw up the phone. Can someone clarify for me thanks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andyistic:
Baseband is the modem part.

You should install the full package (available from Kies).

Be warned that this will install the obKnoxious boot loader.

Make sure you're OK with this before proceeding.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gjmath01:
my phone wont go into recovery only DL mode it did that after 4.3 ota i cant flash anything to it because it keeps saying no pit partiton but it wont take the pit file.i have doe everything that was requested on here
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] KaM1KaZ3:
So its ok to flash custom roms? I wanted to test out wicked sensation/M.OAR but I dont want to trigger bootloader from what I read

Sent from my SPH-L710
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] thugritual:
So with that knox bootloader on there if we get root for the 4.3 will we be able to downgrade back to 4.1.2 if we wanted to or is that no possible since that knox bootloader they added in now

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Is there a way to downgrade the verizon sgs3 back to 4.1.2 after taking the 4.3 or are u stuck with the update??
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] KaM1KaZ3:
You cant downgrade after you get ota 4.3 if you do its a hard brick! From what I picked up we can flash roms of our choice :D

Sent from my SPH-L710
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] treblesum81:
After tripping the Knox warranty bit, will an attempt to Odin in the stock 4.3 tar result in a hard brick? Or will it work normally as long as the odin source file contains Knox? Not sure if this has been covered yet, but a search of the thread didn't produce relevant results, so sorry if this has been asked already.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] andy88de:
You can flash 4.3 .tar stock if you want...cause it has same bl.

Inviato dal mio GT-N7100 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] treblesum81:
Ok, just wanted to make sure because the some part of the Knox documentation (can't seem to find it for linking right now) mentions that once a certain set of parameters had been met, the Knox container would be unable to be created and updates would begin to fail.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
You can flash whatever ROM, from custom recovery (ideally Philz Touch), for whatever Android build you desire, you can NEVER downgrade the actual bootloader (bootloader DOES NOT EQUAL Android build number) by pushing a .tar file via Odin which contains a non-Knox bootloader.

Check this thread for some clarification as well.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bronxdr:
Lookinf forward for that day. I accidentally upgraded without knowing full extent what I was doing heres to hoping we can soon over come the knox.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] lowvolt1:
Just bought my wife the S3. Rooted it as soon as we got home. Its virgin/sprint mobile. She doesn't care about root or anything really except low monthly bill. Lol. I rooted only for ad remover and a little xposed mod.

The whole Knox thing is not much of a concern for me then, right?

Slapped the sh*t out of my X
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] evobb10:
I had the same problem.. just u need to flash Odin tar rom that's it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] eletendre84:
[MENTION=4645794]CNexus[/MENTION] does anyone know for certain if we cab flash kernels while on the mk3 bootloader? My s3 came with 4.3 ota on it. I rooted and flashed cm11 and now want to try the kt747 kernel, but I am afraid its going to hard brick......

Thanks!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] gjmath01:
I tried flashing it all ready I have been working on it for over a month lol.i have flashed everything that's in here and did the whole sd card thing.when it does try to do anything it stops at no pit partition but it won't take pit file..which tarfile did. You flash? Thanks bud
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr_Ada:
HELP: Downloading via USB is not working

Hello,

I'll apologize up front as I don't know where exactly to post this question I have.

I just recently updated my 4.1.2 SGS3 device to 4.3 and I have a unique issue in that I cannot talk between my PC and my phone any more. I have loaded drivers again to no avail. I did figure out how the debugger options was hidden and that is visible now. Only way to get files to and from my phone is to move it to my SD disk and plug into my USB converter which is plugged into PC or KIES air (I think). I was started to do android development and having a cable and being able to drag and drop my apk file was very convenient. Now it has become a pain in the arse.

I currently have cffb350e111c431bcd19eea86e0d0e6816950053.USER_L710_SPR_MD4_to_MK3_Update_FWD0.zip

installed and I had to do it manually since it would automatically do it before (CWM I guess was interferring).

I have lost root now so I pretty much am back to a stock config.

Is there some magic to get the USB working again?

If not then can I get my hands on the source that made this build?

Chris
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] thugritual:
So what you all are basically saying is there is no way to downgrade the software back to 4.12 after u upgrade to 4.3 cause of the Knox Bootloader right
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Kevets:
Correct.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] j00manji:
Mr. Struck sent me a very usefull pm. I think you actually CAN install a 4.1.2 rom as long as youre ok with tripping the knox counter to 0x1 and voiding your "warranty"

(why on earth youd want to downgrade is beyond me. 4.3 is pretty cool, aside from the knox crap)

you may also need to manually edit the updater- script inside whatever rom you are trying to flash

I have yet to try to root or install anything custom yet, but im pretty sure it wont be that hard.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bigpappags3:
Nooo....as far as I'm aware an d it's been notated all over this forum...if you have the official over the air 4.3 update with knox in it and try to downgrade you will brick ur device. If you have a modded...meaning the knox bootloader has been removed and replaced by the md4 bootloader. ..in which case most custom ROMS have....You can downgrade to 4.1.2.

If you have the official ota with knox and don't care about tripping knox....which really isn't a big deal to me you can flash a custom recovery and flash ROMs 4.3 and above. I rooted and tripped knox the first day I got my n3 and haven't had a problem yet...I just know I can't flash backwards beyond a certain point.

Edit....Sorry only read ur first sentence. ..what you quoted sounds exactly true...just be careful and know what exactly you are doing. Lots of noobies may try not knowing what or how to remove the bootloader.

http://i.imgur.com/qrByUGN.jpg
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
Out of curiosity, which ROM's contain an actual bootloader? As opposed to possibly being dependent on the correct modem, which is a lot of the advice I see for flashing the newest stock-based ROM's for 4.3? I am not aware of the actual bootloader being contained in anything other than a .tar file meant to return a user to stock.

Edit: I have successfully flashed both Wicked Sensations and M.O.A.R. (latest versions) recently just by making sure I had the MK3 modem flashed (I am on Virgin Mobile by the way), but I am also Knox-free, so can only offer advice based on the extensive reading and forum browsing that i do. Must admit, I am very impressed with both Wicked and M.O.A.R., considering I normally run CM11 on my phone!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] bigpappags3:
Honestly don't have a count. Not really sure what all is contained in a rom....just like you I'm going off reading the forum and some of the horror stories. The custom ROMS like ws and moar I know are built off the knox free base that cnexus put out. Oh and very glad you like ws there is still more coming.

http://i.imgur.com/qrByUGN.jpg
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
Yeah, Wicked is just that-freaking wicked! My buddy wetbiker7 raves about it so had to give it a shot. I think the biggest issue, to get back on topic for the Knox thread, is that a lot of people try to Odin the MD4 firmware once Knox has interfered with whatever else they were trying to do, because they think they need to return to a previous version of stock, not knowing that this is the single thing that will make Knox angry! To the best of my understanding, as long as you only use Odin to push custom recoveries once you have been Knoxed-up, and never use it to push MD4 or older firmware (MG2 or MD7 for Virgin and Boost, our latest is MK5), you should be fine. It also doesn't help that the bootloader and the modem are referred to by the same letter/number combination-modems are perfectly safe, but you definitely have to be aware of what official bootloader is embedded in the phone.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] BROKEN1981:
hello, very new too root. i have a Motorola xt912 that i just rooted today lol. i just moved up to a samsung s3 from verizon. my girlfriend owned it and moved up to the s4. my s3 on reformat forced the 4.3 update. base band version is i535vrucml1 kernel version is 3.0.31 se.infra@sep-83#1

build number is jss15j.i535vrucml1

i hope i gave all the info i needed to give. in app manager i see knox. i have no app tho like my gf has on her s4. so does my s3 have this knox bootloader thing?? i just want to root my s3 and if i mess up in any way and brick this phone ill be sleeping on the couch for 2 months. i trying to hide the fact im doing this.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] thugritual:
I have had to sgs3 from verizon and they both have fried on me on the 4.3 after I rooted the phone my phone runs ok for the day then the next day is when I start having problem with it being rooted my phone reboots then never comes back on again at all it won't boot back up and it won't recognize a charger or a usb on a computer either it crasher completely

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wondering if anyone else is having these problem to or is it just me having these problems with the verizon sgs3
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] damiloveu:
When I flashed CM 10.2, I got the same errors. Could you please share us the link to the modified zip of CM 10.2 stable? Thanks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] LuigiBull23:
Yes. Just pm'd you sir.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] BROKEN1981:
can anyone help me with my question? i see so many people say you can while others say you cant.

like a poster said in some other forum this works for the s3.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758

but then i see its for MK2.

but if im looking at this correctly i am ML1 with android version 4.3

baseband version I535VRUCML1

i just want to know if i can root or not. i need to get my app data into this phone. i cant use helium since the data is stuck in my Motorola. so i rooted that phone. i backed it up with tb pro. just need to get my s3 rooted so i can restore using tb pro
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
You might get more help in the forum for the SGS3 specific to your carrier-none of those basebands you are listing belong to Sprint.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] BROKEN1981:
very sorry, i used google and it brought me to so many places. ill try to use search tags a bit better
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Mr. Struck:
Not a problem bro! What is your carrier?