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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
I've been running Jelly Beans for quite a while in a ROM slot and done quite a bit of customization to it. How can I back this up and put it in my stock ROM slot? Is this possible or do I simply have to wipe the stock ROM slot, flash the ROM, and do all of the customization that I've done all over again?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
I'm kinda new here, but you could probably do a backup of the jelly rom slot then restore it into the stock slot. I've done that between slots 1 and 2 so unless the stock slot is different, it should work. I backed up the stock slot so I presume you can restore it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
I would assume the same thing but I want to refrain from assuming so I don't brick anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
Peruse the safestrap thread. Maybe it is discussed. I seem to recall a thread about restoring stock. It might have been in that forum. Does it matter in terms of using any rom in which slot it is installed? Is there something special about the stick slot? As I said ealier, I am a Note Newbie.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
The Stock slot resides on the internal memory of the phone while the SafeStrap slots are on the SD card. Also, the SafeStrap slots are limited to the amount of memory that you used when you created the slot where as the stock slot gives you access to the full 32GB of internal memory plus all of the SD card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
Ah. Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. I have Jelly in 1 and another in 2 and havent had memory issues. If I do I'll know why.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ac29593:
I just flashed clean rom to the stock slot and called it a day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
I wonder if it is possible to move the slots from the limited virtual sd to the real sd? Does safestap see the real sd card

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
I think I made a mistake when I said this. The ROM slots are contained within the internal memory but then are only able to see what is contained within that ROM slot. So you have your stock ROM slot which is 32GB in size and you have slot 1-4 ROMs. If you create slot 1 with a total size of data and system for 6GB, you can only see 6GB of data while booting into that ROM but if you go back tot he stock slot you will see all 32GB.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
I understand that. But it would be useful if all the slots could be moved onto a large, say 64+mb, external, loading only the selected active slot into internal memory, thus enabling any active slot to use all of the internal memory. Just a curiosity as my present roms have sufficient room to grow within their alloted spaces. Also, my apologies for taking this tread off-topic.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Just backup stick slot (if you want a copy of your stock rom) wipe it, then restore nand of cust beans to stock slot. No worries. Sorry for late response.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Certainly a good point. Drop the suggestion in the Safestrap thread. If Hashcode hasn't already thought of it, it might be an option.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
No Problem. Just to be clear, I backup my custom ROM slot with SafeStrap, select stock ROM slot, wipe with options of data, cache, and Dalvik, then restore my custom ROM slot to stock ROM slot with SafeStrap?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
When clean wiping I just use the slider in Safestrap, as it is the recommended wipe for clean flashing a rom.

I only choose dalvik, cache and system for flashing a successive build of the same rom (dirty flash)

But you got the basics right,

-back up cust rom

-back up stock rom/slot (opt)

-wipe (using slider) stock slot

-restore cust rom to stock slot

-delete slot 1-4 that prev had cust rom in it

-PROFIT :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zovadka:
I'm profiting. Thanks man.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] look4alec:
Got it finally

Just got a new Note 3 today, Odined to MJE... Kingo wasn't working, multiple computers 100 tries. What finally worked... I found Vroot.

If you search google for vroot 1.7.0.1 and the page is hosted on GSMhosting - I know we don't have a GSM phone but followed the instructions you end up downloading a chinese windows app which effectively roots your phone. I had drivers already installed from samsung so I would do that first. Other specifics, used usb 2.0 cable (this didn't make a difference with Kingo so I doubt it mattered. Anyway the website walks you through it and though it's in Chinese if you follow your instincts as to what to press and follow directions, it works. Then Safestrap and install the open source Superuser as most tutorials suggest. Anyway, root is working, I was about at my wit's end.

Edit: I know this seems really sketchy, but it worked and my antivirus didn't ping. One of the other tutorials suggested that if Kingo doesn't work try Vroot, so it wasn't a shot in the dark. You guys can PM me if you need more pointers I'll try to log in the next few days (I haven't been using this site a whole lot since I broke my GNEX! Happy days!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
What seems sketchy is Kingo pushing apps onto the device that have no bearing on the exploit process and can't be located once the process is complete. No one seems to know why the apps are pushed and the developer doesn't respond to requests for clarification. Looks and sounds like malware to me and why I haven't used the method or have root access yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Countless thousands have rooted via Kingo. Besides the rumors, how many users have actually reported their device got hacked or their privacy was violated by kingo?

While I fully understand the concern, a high of a number of users rooting dozens of devices with Kingo and no validated reports of nefarious activity related to kingo, I can't help but wonder if maybe there's nothing wrong with kingo...

I have rooted and rerooted a ton of times using kingo. I always and immediately flash Chainfires SuperSU ti overwrite kingis superuser, i delete kingo off the pc & run virus scan,

No issues, no weird calls fom China, and I haven't personally heard or read of one user having malware/privacy/hacked device issues.

It is certainly your device and your decision when rooting your device.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
And it's that kind of logic that is why botnets exist... "no one sees anything wrong, so there isn't anything wrong". You're right that it's probably nothing and I'm being overly paranoid, but I have to say I'm a tad concerned at how nonchalant the community is with these apps installed in the exploit process.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
All root methods are exploits, there's a reason the community feels nonchalant about Kingo, number of users vs numbercof legit complaints.

I respect each user's level of comfort when it comes to rooting.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
OK, I tried to search but I didn't find any results ...

Rooted my Verizon N3 with Kingo no problems ... I trued to flash the SuperUser apk in Safestrap and lost root! Now I can't seem to get root access back ...

EDIT: Weird ... never mind ... I used Root Explore and navigated to system/app. Saw the SU apk was indeed there. Clicked on it and chose to install it ... it installed and all is good!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BluPhant:
A buddy of mine had no success with Kingo either. I had an older version of it lying around and he was able to use that successfully. I have no idea why.

Blu
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Seems like lately Kingo has been hit or miss for root. Vroot is a good alt for those having root issues with Kingo. I've not used vroot but hear good things.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] eletendre84:
Kingo failed for me like 12 times. So I tried vroot. Easiest ever. They have a (mostly) English version now. Acquire root, dl supersu from the store, update the binary, uninstall the Chinese su. Done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] millerma1:
All of these conspiracy people are messing with head. Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Don't let the black helicopter folks bother you :D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
New note 3 owner. No luck with Kingo. Haven't gotten English version of vroot yet. I'll get there. Phone is running naked and it looks awesome.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] millerma1:
you talked me into it.....I'm a sucker for peer pressure. I followed the tutorial(thank you so much for that, btw) at the end of it all......there was an app that was installed on my device. The logo was blue with a backwards "p"....is was in Chinese. I went to app manager and uninstalled it.

Is that any cause for concern? Anyone else have that?

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Thanks for this......I was having the same issue. I just hope it is the Chainfire one and not the one that was installed with Kingo. Is there anyway to tell? Only thing I see is that the SU app says vs 1.85. So I'm thinking I'm good.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I honestly don't know what version is installed ... I am assuming it is CF's version

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I've got an older version of Kingo that worked for me first shot. Let me know if you want it and I'll upload it to Dropbox
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
[MENTION=1210378]yankin[/MENTION], that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
Here you go [MENTION=3061145]milski65[/MENTION] ... hope it works for you! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18661695/android_root.exe
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
Yank, I owe you a beer. I really do appreciate it. Rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
NICE! Glad it worked for ya!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
1.85 is CFs latest SuperSU

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
I'm running CF's 1.94.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
Same here ...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
DANG! Updated 2 days ago! Guess I better update my link AND my SuperSU! Thanks for the heads up :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
I went with vroot, mainly because I understand the exploit process with that program... Kingo is mysterious (and didn't work, btw) and u don't trust it.

Vroot is in all Chinese, but if you pay attention, it's slicker than snot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] eletendre84:
Kingo 1.2 broke root for note 3 (per multiple forums). Vroot is the only way to go.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
Check post 347. Yank posted earlier version of Kingo. Worked for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sulla65:
Yeah the current kingo app doesn't work with MJE, You have to use a previous version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Novakingwai:
I don't know if anyone has posted this, but there is an error in this statement:

"Verify USB DEBUGGING is CHECKED in system settings>developer option (click 'BASE Version' in 'About Phone' 7 times to UNHIDE Developer Option) "

You are supposed to click "Build Version", not "Base Version." Took me a few minutes to figure it out. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Mine shows 'Base Version'

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Novakingwai:
..What the... Now mine does too? Maybe with Stock firmware it says build version and on a custom ROM it shows Base Version. There's a cell phone kiosk inside my store with a Note 3 on display. I'll see what it says and take a picture if it's different. I could be crazy, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
The Cust Rom vs Stock Rom explanation is probably accurate as I didn't create this thread until long after I flashed a cust rom.

If the stock 'about phone' shows diff info PLEASE attach a screen so I can update the OP.

Thx :D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Novakingwai:
Will do tomorrow
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
Here's stock
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Thx. Looks like I need to change OP. GREAT catch guys, thx for reporting the error :D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
Build/base, potato/pototto. Appreciate everything you've done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Novakingwai:
Normally I would agree with that, but when you are talking about rooting and installing ROMs and every tutorial says to follow it exactly to avoid bricking your device, I was looking for exactly what he posted. :)

And I just came back from the store, I was correct. Someone already posted a screen shot though. :highfive:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
I was making light of it. Not a brickable move on developer option, but you have a point when it comes to flashing and following instructs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rand4ll:
Just rooted and got safestrap installed using this guide, thanks for that. However kingo would not work as it would not even detect my phone and yes drivers were installed. However just downloaded vroot from their site and it worked first time perfectly. Flashed chainfire's supersu and uninstalled whatever crap it left. Easy peasy. Now to install baja.

Thanks for the guide.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam Sung:
Thanks for this! Just rooted after reading through. All seems to have gone well and I'm now about to install SS.

2 questions:

During the root, a dialog from Google (from a specific guy...) popped up on the N3 saying that MKTcamera shouldn't be installed as it would bypass security. I clicked "install anyway", as I assumed it was part of the rooting process. Correct?

Also, after the install, next to the SU icon in the app drawer is the icon pictured below. The app is completely chinese. Leave installed?

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
If you rooted using knigo install chainfires SuperSU over the kingo version and all is good. If you used vroot (which I suspect you did), I'm not sure as I've not used it. I'm presuming you'd follow the same process as Kingo.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam Sung:
I used the Kingo 1.15xxxx found in post#347 (yank). SU was installed as part of the root process, after which I got the latest version from Google Play (1.94). It seemed to upgrade fine, and 1.94 is the version showing in SU. I also just finished installing SS, which seemed pretty straightforward too.

I'm assuming all is well with SU (?), but what about the chinese app left behind (as per screenshot)? And nothing to worry about with the MKTcamera app warning?

Again, thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
That's the one I used. Didn't get any Chinese version installed. And you should be on 1.94. Flash ss 3.71. Don't know about the camera warning either. You didn't try vroot first?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam Sung:
No. This is my first root on this phone. The icons in the screenshot are as found after the install. Millerma1 in post #344 states a similar icon (he describes a 'backwards' p). He uninstalled his (I assume without incident, but he hasn't posted further info). I ran a nandroid, so I guess I could uninstall it and see.

I installed the latest stable version of SS - v3.65
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milski65:
Seen a couple people post issues with 3.71. I haven't had any. You should be fine uninstalling. Especially with back up. Have you googled the camera issue? I've seen no posts on it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam Sung:
Actually, I just froze it via Titanium. That should allow time to see if any harm done or functionality missing.

As far as the camera issue, no I haven't googled it. It struck me as a bit odd. I haven't found an app by that name in the app list or titanium app list. At any rate, I doubt I have a virus or malware, as I'm careful with my downloads and installs, and I can't imagine that the kingo version posted by yank is a problem, given that there were no other complaints. I guess it's a wait and see kind of situation.

Again, thanks the thread and the help. It was indeed an easy root. I've already frozen all the verizon crap that couldn't be disabled with stock/non-root. After I've installed all of my root apps, I'll be a happy camper. I've had this phone for over a month, but just haven't had time to do my homework to root it. This thread made it pretty much a no-brainer. :)

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And after googling, here's an xda thread on it. Looks iffy, but I haven't finished the thread yet:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2518829
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rjacosta:
Build 10 of baja rocks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] millerma1:
I ended up just uninstalling it from my phone with no issue. As far as the mtk camera app...... I was really skeptical, I read several threads. I found a post from a great developer, Beans, saying it was part of the code. With the advice from biker, I just did it. I've had no issue. This thread has been a life saver. We take a risk every time we root. This one is no different.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam Sung:
There's a thread here on xda that discusses it as well. Like those in the thread, I could find no trace of Mtk Camera. And, as mentioned earlier, I froze the "P" app with Titanium and have noticed no issues. I've kind of been waiting to make too many changes because KitKat was supposed be released by vrz last month and I didn't want to do it all again. But from what I've been hearing about further limits imposed by the vrz version, I may take a pass on kitkat anyway.

Indeed, the help here is greatly appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
Vroot is a little more upfront about the apps like mtk camera. It appears the 'app' is part of the back door into the exploit. Of course, had Kingo just said so and not led us all to believe it was malware, paranoid geeks like me wouldn't be ranting about it. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] almahix:
I had to re-root my phone yesterday after getting it back from Samsung repair. Even with the old Kingo it coudn't root. I gave up after several unsuccessful attempts and used Vroot. I accepted the mtk camera msg but no such app is installed after root. It may be something used in the rooting process that is deleted after rooting. Regardless, I am happily rooted and safestrapped. Thanks again to those who made this all possible despite Verizon's silly locked bootloaders.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Xirix12:
Ah gotcha. Well I am sticking with the potentially dangerous SuperSU.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
My knox was 0x0 before, after and well into a dozen reflashes... No worries...

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Not to sound like a nag; but as easy as it is to flash reputable superSU, why tske any risk leaving the unknown Kingo version hanging around? Just something to think about ;)

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] anewday:
Is it possible to get OTA updates once it's rooted and safe strap is installed? I'm planning to leave it stock rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] G8orDroid:
As a test, the last time I used Kingo, I didn't install SS, but I did reinstall SuperSU using the option in settings to reinstall from Google Play. I believe that this method is as effective as flashing the zip with no need to install Safestrap recovery if you are only after root privileges.

I do agree that until the Kingo app is properly vetted, that it makes sense to be safe.

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Unless you disable the SDM.apk the phone will still download OTA updates. Whether or not it will install would have a lot to do with what modifications you make to the phone besides rooting. If root is all you do, it is likely (not definite) the update would install and most probably take your root access in the process.

If you make significant modifications to the system (ie. freeze or remove apps) the OTA will fail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] anewday:
That is good to know. I thought it was mandatory to install SS. I just wanted to root solely to enable the Service Menu and enable AWS Band 4. Could I simply just install SuperSU from the play store instead of flashing the zip?

This should be clarified in the OP. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Good call, OP updated
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gnexdude:
Az Thanks for this tutorial I followed it with success. One question though, do I need to back up my stock image or is that already done? Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Backing up stock rom is not necessary but recommended. I kept the stock rom on my SD card, but only keep my current rom in the stock slot with all other rom slots uncreated/empty/not activated.

This way I have access to ALL my internal and sdcard memory rather thsn splitting it up between multiple rom slots. If you like switching between multiple roms, SafeStrap allows the ability to do just that.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GreenGoblin227:
I currently did all the steps above and running beans rom.

When I am in my stock rom it shows that I have 20gb of storage left (Internally)

When I load up the beans rom, It claims i have 568mb left.

Is there a way that I can keep my backup on my storage card and run Beans as my default? I am sure this was talked about, but i am only used to casual root. Beans is my favorite rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Did you perfom these steps?

How to change your primary Stock ROM:

I did this and I show 20gb internal and 19gb sdcard...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GreenGoblin227:
I went back and read all the steps again. I performed back ups of my stock rom my to sd, confirmed it worked in an open room slot.

Made 3 copies to my laptop, drop bock and my so card.

Made a copy of my beans rom

Then wiped the device in ss. After restored my beans rom.

Running only beans now

Love this site. Was tempted to get the developer's edition but this works for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
Glad it worked out for you! Don't forget to hit THANKS! :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bkfarrell:
Does the Kingo method wipe the phone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
No, Kingo just gives the user ROOT privileges. You won't lose your stock ROM until you flash a custom rom OVER the STOCK slot. But if you want to keep the STOCK rom, you just create a Rom Slot 2 and flash your custom rom there, keeping both your stock rom in the STOCK slot, and having your custom rom in Rom Slot 2.. You must first ACTIVATE the Rom Slot for the rom you want to boot to, THEN rebbot...

Follow the instructions on the Safe Strap XDA forum OP, and you'll be fine!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] anewday:
I just wanted to report that it took me 2 times with the Kingo app to root the phone. I finally enabled AWS band 4. :cyclops:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] iDontMissMyiPhone:
No interference with Knox at all...when I went into SuperSU yesterday, it said "Knox is detected on this device, would you like to attempt to disable Knox?" I tapped yes and it said Knox was disabled successfully.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Turgur:
Thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chrisbass:
I'm curious...do you know how it disabled Knox?