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[One (M8) General] rustyxj6:
I'm half wondering just how old everyone around here is. Back when I was growing up in my teens and early 20s i would have paid a couple of thousand dollars for an HTC One.

I've had over 50 phones pass my hand except for he Iphone but I have messed with them. I really don't see any difference with the HTC One camera. I had Droid 3 and an Amaze at the same time and the pictures look fine. I actually think they look better compared to the Droid line and no just the Droid 3 but the razr the Razr m and others that I've owned. Most of them the camera was a bit weak with some blue tints going on.

Again I don't know how old everyone around here is but my first digital camera was a Canon with 4 megapixels. Paid a couple of hundred dollars for this leading edge technology years ago. Yea I was exited about it back then I thought I had one of the best cameras ever. I took lots of pics with that camera and the pictures look great. I still have most of them pics and they look pretty good.

I never use the zoom feature in any phone because it has never look right. Even on regular cameras the digital zoom just looks bad.

I paid a few hundred dollars for a dedicated camera with a big lens that you can zoom in and out and take HD movies. I look at the lens of my camera and the ones on my HTC One and other cell phones and I know that the laws of physics can't be broken no matter how many pixels they claim to have in a small lens.

The HTC One is a great phone probably the best I've ever owned. My main gripe is the no microSD card slot, non removable battery.
[One (M8) General] theotrman:
This is only a leak, not a release. I don't want S800 anyway. It's a hot chip.. S805 will bring a 2nd Gen to the S800 series. Like the Sarge says better SOC, Krait, 4K, Adreno yadda, yadda..

Just test drove a N5 and it's extremely quick, but camera isn't great and lowlight with the ONE Trumps the N5. I couldn't even get through a day without giving it a juice bump.:-$

Took it back and saved my upgrade for the 8.

I wouldn't be surprised if HTC tests a different brand CPU all together.
[One (M8) General] filmaker:
Lol I have 2 solutions for everyone.

Either

1. Buy an iPhone

2. Switch to T-Mobile, and buy a Google Edition GS4. (Great camera, expandable storage, removable battery and no touchwiz)

No but really, I owned the HTC and Nexus 5. The camera on both of them sucks. But then again, I'm used to my DSLR so my standards are pretty high. However, I think having a good quality camera on the phone is important because some of the best photos are captured in the moment and I'm not always carrying my DSLR with me every day of my life.
[One (M8) General] bhavi_jp:
Agreed. But this is an HTC One forum. So fanboys will always flame you if you say anything bad about HTC one. I bought the phone for its sleek look (single major factor). If anyone else comes up with a better looking device (except Apple/windows phones), I will be switching to them but until then I'll have to stick with this crap camera.
[One (M8) General] Psycho_Crusher:
The m8 will really have another 4up?
[One (M8) General] Riff76:
LMFAO

What's up Kao
[One (M8) General] sgt. slaughter:
No need to make public assumptions here... Kao wasn't using the xda premium app when he last left anyway...

Pm or use the report button on these things.
[One (M8) General] rank78:
Maybe I missed the post, but ha anyone offered a practical solution? I always wanted a Nexus for the fast updates but for one reason or another they weren't an option (not on Sprint, inferior camera, unimpressive Samsung model a couple years ago). I will never buy an iPhone, I have sworn off Samsung since the Instinct and touchwiz and plastic body has kept me away, the Lumia is a Windows phone so screw that.... so what is the messiah phone you guys are implying we ignore due to being 'fanboys'? Hell I couldn't even get the Dev or Google Play versions due to Sprint. The G Flex will be coming to Sprint but besides a few feature shortcomings it will cost $1,000.

If anyone can offer an option for a top tier device with an exceptional camera so we don't have to 'accept' this one, please do so. If you are willing to pay the difference for me to change to a more expensive carrier pm me for a PayPal transfer.
[One (M8) General] BMP7777:
Would you believe that I had the chance to get an N5 this last weekend and went with the blue ONE instead? What kind of psycho am I? Seriously, I do think a better camera is needed, but it just isn't as big a deal to me as it apparently is to some of you. I like this phone, and think I'll stick with it until something truly better comes along. And I mean REALLY better; not just what the fanboys and corporate types say is better. I doubt the M8 will shock with new features. The next big thing will probably be a friggin Sammy. Those mugs put out a new device about every month now......my old lady just got the GS 4 and she loves it. B****.....JK :laugh:
[One (M8) General] Red5:
Thread cleaned.

Guys, try to stay on topic without resorting to trolling and flaming others. Thanks.
[One (M8) General] rank78:
UK judge spilled the beans on HTC One 2

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/12/04/htc_next_flagship_mobe/
[One (M8) General] RayTrue04:
It will have S800. What is wrong with HTC? LG and Samsung will be rocking the S805 pooping all over HTC come 2014. It's like they're trying to delete themselves off the market, what is wrong with them? Lol
[One (M8) General] Riff76:
Yup I can't defend them in this case. The camera in those phones will blow away the HTC cams that is for sure.
[One (M8) General] RayTrue04:
That's exactly how I feel, I mean if you're going with an older processor instead of the newer one then why should I expect a better camera? So far the leaked out specs are aiming to be real..
[One (M8) General] rank78:
If they are more concerned with rushing something out matching these unconfirmed specs, possibly less than a year after the One and while offering the Mini/Max/Play Ed./Dev Ed in the meantime, then I'll be passing on their BS. Not interested in Samsung so hopefully LG has something worth considering otherwise I don't see any options for some time.
[One (M8) General] JoeNeckbone:
Agreed.... M8? More like M7.1
[One (M8) General] Psycho_Crusher:
With this news... I may go back to Samsung if s5 is worth it. I was really looking forward to trying m8. Hopefully specs are wrong.

Sent from my Nexus 7 2013
[One (M8) General] flex360:
lets hope they ditch that 4mp camera. it would be funny if they decide to use this ultra pixel gimmick again
[One (M8) General] flex360:
bu bu bu bu but....... lol
[One (M8) General] JoeNeckbone:
Lol, yeah.... It was hilarious the first time around.... Maybe we'll get orange/green tint to freshen it up.
[One (M8) General] Riff76:
Let's hope they don't ditch it so you can get your N5
[One (M8) General] SuperiorEVOlution18:
What it's starting to feel like. Sad, they seemed to make big strides with the M7 too...
[One (M8) General] JoeNeckbone:
Even the .1 is generous.... M7S is more like it.
[One (M8) General] BMP7777:
M7c is probably how it'll go. I gotta say, the ultrapixel thing was pretty clever; pretty b******* too. Did I get flamed a couple pages back? Must have missed it. Love to see everyone being so cordial to each other. I dig the avatar Joe; one of the best gangster pictures EVER. Surely someone will disagree with that too. Flame away! :angel:
[One (M8) General] JoeNeckbone:
Yeah, it was only up for an hour or so.... Ignorant verbal diarrhea...I wish I would have missed it also.
[One (M8) General] BMP7777:
Huh. Didn't know I rubbed anyone THAT wrong. You know what? GOOD.:victory:
[One (M8) General] lreillyi:
As long as they shield the camera sensor a bit better I'd be happy with it. The only thing that kills this phone for me is the red/purple tint to low light pictures. I'm happy with my One for a while though, waiting out the next gen processors. Maybe a good quad core x86 android phone lol
[One (M8) General] Lancerz:
Just send your phone to HTC and have them fix the camera, its completely free and it gets rid of the red/purple tint in low light. My camera is flawless in low light now!
[One (M8) General] silentstrand:
I'll reserve my judgement and opinions until final specs are released. I have no major issues with the M7 as it sits now. The camera on mine is decent. I mean, smart phones were never really meant to handle low light situations like an SLR-D or even an SLR. While an SLR usually has 40mm lense or bigger sometimes allows more light to be gathered and amplified at the time of the picture, the M7's being a fraction of that can only gather a fraction of that light as well. So, really to me the quality of pictures it takes with a lense of that size and the software enhancements it makes, is a pretty solid camera.
[One (M8) General] rank78:
How long did they have it, and how many days to send back? I sent mine off today and it should get there Monday the 9th, unfortunately I don't see getting it before I leave the morning of the 19th when I go on vacation for almost 3 weeks.
[One (M8) General] flex360:
oh im getting the N5 alright

just waiting for my co worker to buy this phone in a couple weeks

dont worry you wont see me anymore lol
[One (M8) General] THADDIUS25:
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/new-samsung-sm-g900s-spotted-on-gfxbench-is-it-galaxy-s5-4-12-2013/

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If the s5 has the snapdragon 805 I'm pretty sure the m8 will have one to!!
[One (M8) General] Lancerz:
It was less than a week turn around, sent it off on the 19th they got it on the 20th and on the 22nd it was fixed and back on the way to me.
[One (M8) General] rank78:
Oh man that would be awesome.
[One (M8) General] WookieFan:
I'm new to this device, so I'm trying to catch up a bit on why so much negativity on the ultrapixel camera. The pictures are sharp and Zoe does a good job of highlighting them. The software is obviously awesome, almost always getting the right exposure, so I have to assume the people who hate ultrapixel are running AOKP or CM?

FYI, I'm an actual SLR photographer, and I can assure you that putting a high MP camera in a smartphone is useless. Megapixels mean nothing unless you have a good lens to bring in the light. Smartphone lenses simply aren't capable of that.

So, go ahead, let Samsung fool you into paying more for a completely useless feature.

If the M8 has ultrapixel, that's because it's known technology that works, as long as you run Sense. I don't see anything wrong with that.
[One (M8) General] ED2O9:
You might want to do a bit more research before you start singing the praises of the One's camera. The first one I received had serious focus issues. I tested three other phones in Sprint stores, and found that two were at least as bad as mine if not worse, but opted to try a replacement. The new one was better but I still noticed that the edges of the photos were pretty blurry in certain shots (before you ask, the lens was perfectly clean). There are numerous threads about people who are experiencing the same thing, as well as the whole issue with red or purple tinting in low light conditions. Not everyone has these problems, but enough to make me think that HTC has serious quality control issues with the ultra-pixel camera. Beyond the occasional focus problem, I noticed that the exposure latitude was pretty poor. I took side by side shots with and One and my wife's 8MP Evo LTE. You can see for yourself that under identical situations, highlighted areas are blown out on the One, but not the Evo. Granted, the One takes nice shots in low-light conditions where other phones fail miserably, but overall I think it falls short of the superior image quality that HTC claimed.

BTW - While I agree that more MPs don't make for a better picture, it does come it handy when you want to crop an image since none of these devices have an actual optical zoom.
[One (M8) General] bhavi_jp:
yeah. ok jeff. A self proclaimed SLR photographer defending this ultrapixel BS.
[One (M8) General] ED2O9:
Wow... somebody took my comment a little bit personally. For the record, I've been a big fan of HTC products and was really hoping that the One would help level the playing field. While it has some great features (beautiful build quality, forward facing speakers, etc). I don't feel that the camera is one of them. The reason I even responded to this thread is because I was hoping that the One's successor would address some of the problems I've experienced , but based on the early reports that isn't the case. I'm glad you are so pleased with your phone, but just because yours is flawless and the multitude of people you've spoken to have had no problems doesn't mean that they don't exist. Feel free to tell these people that there's nothing wrong with their camera:

http://www.htcforums.com/one/12755-htc-one-camera-doent-focus-constantly-blurry.html

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2288668

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/805498

And that's just a sample of people with the focus issue.

Finally, cropping a picture isn't "extensive post-processing". It's one of the most basic editing features that's built into most image viewing apps. My teenage daughter and I use it frequently and I hardly consider us to be fringe, hard-core camera phone photographers. Since the One has such a wide-angle lens, cropping is even more common. Again... just because it's not something that you've experienced, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
[One (M8) General] JoeNeckbone:
Regardless of the quality of the camera (I won't get into the purple/pink tint or zooming isssues that I personally have with mine), using one that is already a year old in a sector where the bar is raised every few months doesn't make sense....to me at least....To each their own......
[One (M8) General] ThePhoneGeek:
So I am not a photographer but having spent twenty years in this industry and tested and used many of the phones released in the US since 2005 I will say that I am not happy with the quality of the photos the One takes and my family owns 4 of them.

In my opinion the main things I would like to see different to make me buy an M8 would be:

1) Better camera, ultrapixel, mega pixel, whatever but the quality needs to be much better.

2) MicroSD slot, sorry but in the age of media, movies, etc you can never have enough storage.

3) Wireless charging, for me and the way I use a device having this would be a big help and let me overlook a smallish battery.

Not at all professing to be the complete expert but as an exec in this industry for several years and a power user of sorts this is what it would take to get me to buy the next One.

MG