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[G Pad 8.3 General] xuanphucn:
hi. I just ordered this tablet. I know there is a google edition version. is there a google edition rom for our tablet?
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
CM, Mahdi, AOKP, Carbon, PA, etc etc.. I really don't see the hype about stock AOSP
[G Pad 8.3 General] xuanphucn:
i like the pure ge stock rom not cm and other custom rom tho :). sorry if im off topic
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
Why?
[G Pad 8.3 General] xuanphucn:
it is my preference:o
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
But I mean what does it offer that custom AOSP based ROMs don't offer?
[G Pad 8.3 General] ASW1:
If you really really really want GPE, just "because", then just buy the GPE version.
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
As much as you are correct in some cases, its not always true, very easy to say what others should do without knowing the reasons...

e.g. I wanted to get LG GPE but could not as its not sold in UK by any authorised retailer...so...yeah... don't generalise...

..peace...;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
Care to explain to me what benefits you get from GPE vs using a custom ROM?

I fail to see everyone's fascination with AOSP when every single AOSP-based custom ROM is better in every way.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ASW1:
My guess is that a lot of people think that custom ROM's come with their own/another skin, like the LG skin or samsung, but different.

This is NOT the case, for example if you flash Mahdi it is NOT like there is some thick Mahdi sauce over the system everywhere.

In fact, it's pretty invisible, the only thing that you get is extra functionality that you can use if you want to, but you can also ignore it and never use those options.

But believe me, you probably will want to use some of those options, and then you will see you have something better in your hands than the GPE version.

The only reason for wanting a GPE in my eyes is if you find the process of rooting and flashing too intimidating, or if you just can't be bothered with the extra effort. Those reasons are fair enough.

Wanting the GPE because you think that is the only way to get a pure android system without some ugly skin, is not a good reason.
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
Exactly this. Although being on XDA, rooting and flashing shouldn't intimidate you. Embrace it.
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
..for me I was looking for a stock google android experience as I generally dislike skins, plus dont want to have to tinker with my device just to get the latest rom/os version, plus normally everything works as usual..
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
CM, Mahdi, PA, Slim, Carbon, AOKP, etc.. Nome of these are skinned and all of them have added features and functionality that I guarantee you wouldn't be able to live without once you give it a try. This is XDA dude.. You came here to tweak and tinker.
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
Yes..I work as a developer..tinkering as you put it, is my job, but there is always a limit and that my friend varies at a personal level.
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
I agree but XDA would be almost useless if all you're using is a stock ROM and waiting for OTA updates.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ASW1:
As said, no need to get a GPE for that

Those are perfectly good reasons for wanting a GPE.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zarrick19:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Conf...-3-Starts-Rolling-Out-in-Q2-2014-430631.shtml
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
LOL with the nexus 8 coming in july with 4.5...
[G Pad 8.3 General] stevessvt:
Well, it could be worse. I had a 2012 Note 10.1 that I sold to get the G-Pad, they are still rocking 4.1.2 on that.
[G Pad 8.3 General] matt1500:
These threads make me laugh you guys are way off track. Its supposed to be about information on receiving the official ota update from LG to 4.4 KitKat. Who cares about GPE and which custom ROMs are better. Have we got any reliable info on when we will get the update.

Haha always feel good after a rant.
[G Pad 8.3 General] xuanphucn:
thanks. returning the tablet now lol
[G Pad 8.3 General] uprightbass360:
There is no hammered down date, but from what can be found on the internet we will be getting the v500 update late june (via lg Italia on facebook if you wanna look em up). So until then if you are wanting a better, more battery friendly, less bloated, less "features" (which in my opinion is a good thing), streamlined experience then get one of the custom compiled 4.4.2 builds in the dev sections.
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
Hmm... I already mentioned it in my earlier post(in short) which I will give the long verison below...

- the level of tinkering you want to do varies, e.g. not everything needs a custom rom

or some may just want to root and not need another rom

- besides a GPE edition FOR ME would have meant no custom roms for a long time

Also tinkering does not only mean custom rom, it can mean rooting, using apps which are available otherwise, putting varuous mods etc, I would call al this tinkering.
[G Pad 8.3 General] DonDizzurp:
Let me ask you this.. what choice do you have?

You can

1. complain on XDA that you want an AOSP ROM or a GPE available for your country

2. build your own AOSP ROM from source

3. flash one of the many AOSP-based ROMs already available

Why is it that so many of you think option 1 is the best solution?
[G Pad 8.3 General] android404:
I will steal this "argument" and use it on xda whenever i can.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
In reality.. It's already too late.. :cool:

If both the G2 and G-Pad were on 4.2.2 which they were.. The G-Pad should have been *Ready and in Waiting* for Carrier(s) Approval on the G2.. I could understand T-Mobile, ATT, Verizon and Sprint not being on the same page with their brand testing and injection of Carrier Apps working with 100% compatibility & stability on 4.4.2.. Cell Phones need more time.. But this device we have is a *Universal Wi-Fi Tablet* :cool: and in theory this device's 4.4.2 should have been baked some time ago...wait ( did they not already make a 4.4.2 based 8.3" G-Pad called the GPE..)

I fear.. LG MAY NOT release 4.4.2 for the standard G-Pad.. You have a Google Play Edition with your name on it available for purchase if that's what the consumer wants.. Expansion of Vendors to CARRY & PROMOTE the G-Pad 8.3 are not even an afterthought.. LG feels BestBuy & Newegg are enough in it's biggest market.. they could care less about pushing our tablet at least here in the U.S.A... The arrival of the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and the pending arrival of the Nexus-8 already force the G-Pad to take a backseat.. I fear LG is holding the course they set in 2011. :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] matt1500:
In reality.. It's already too late.. :cool:

If both the G2 and G-Pad were on 4.2.2 which they were.. The G-Pad should have been *Ready and in Waiting* for Carrier(s) Approval on the G2.. I could understand T-Mobile, ATT, Verizon and Sprint not being on the same page with their brand testing and injection of Carrier Apps working with 100% compatibility & stability on 4.4.2.. Cell Phones need more time.. But this device we have is a *Universal Wi-Fi Tablet* :cool: and in theory this device's 4.4.2 should have been baked some time ago...wait ( did they not already make a 4.4.2 based 8.3" G-Pad called the GPE..)

I fear.. LG MAY NOT release 4.4.2 for the standard G-Pad.. You have a Google Play Edition with your name on it available for purchase if that's what the consumer wants.. Expansion of Vendors to CARRY & PROMOTE the G-Pad 8.3 are not even an afterthought.. LG feels BestBuy & Newegg are enough in it's biggest market.. they could care less about pushing our tablet at least here in the U.S.A... The arrival of the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 and the pending arrival of the Nexus-8 already force the G-Pad to take a backseat.. I fear LG is holding the course they set in 2011. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Sorry dude but your argument makes no sense. The G pad GPE is from Google all lg did is supply the tablet. However this thread is about lg updating their own software to 4.4.2. The two tablets are unrelated to each other.

Added to that other GPE devices are running KitKat on their manufacturer versions so we just have to be patient. Everyone goes nuts at the manufacture when really we just have to be patient.
[G Pad 8.3 General] opti1:
Do we have any knowledgeable or educated guesses about whether or not an upgrade to Kit Kat will break the write to SD card function on the LG 500 version of the G Pad? Or if LG's file manager will still work?

Or, asked another way, if and when offered the OTA update should I hold off until we find out if it breaks write to SD card?

Thanks!
[G Pad 8.3 General] woody1:
Personally, I would wait to update until you find out what's up with the OTA release. The potential problems outweigh the benefits.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
Eh... Sorry Dude..

If I were "Arguing" you would know it.. :cool:

I'm stating my "Opinion" that's about it.. If LG was waiting for the G2 to pass verification with the carrier's so 4.4.2 could be rolled out, well.. that's already taken place.. and G2 owners have been receiving their 4.4.2 updates. If the G-Pad were going to get it, why not roll it out at the same time (give or take a week or two..) as the G2?

I just feel like putting my opinion out there concerning 4.4.2.. just like you are in telling everyone to "Stop Blaming LG! and just be patient"

The Mahdi-ROM's February revision runs EXCELLENT for me and will prop my 8.3 up until a final resting place is determined.. Enjoy the official 4.4.2 if it actually gets rolled out.. :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] abadan:
how can i install official kitkat?

so , does it available??

SEND BY XPERIA HONAMI
[G Pad 8.3 General] extremex93:
If you read 1 post above your post you can see that it will probably release in Q2.

Off topic

Anyone else have problem with Mahdi-rom recents menu? It is quite buggy sometimes :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] Sean09:
Asking lg for an update and will change the op once received.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
In a word NO.

When properly installed, Mahdi is the only ROM that has 100% functionality.. 3/2 is the best Mahdi-ROM yet..

Maybe time for a system wipe and a fresh install.. :cool:

If it helps you,

I ALWAYS do a clean FULL WIPE install.. NEVER Dirty Flash.. It's like using your bath towel again for a 2nd time... :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] extremex93:
That is the wierd thing, I didn't dirty flash it was clean. However I reflashed and did a clean install and now it seems alot better.

I also noticed that if you switch GPS settings from energy saving to high accuracy the gps will break xD
[G Pad 8.3 General] Sean09:
Added an ETA update. Narrowed down from the original "2014" to "Q2 2014". Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later. They also did not acknowledge any potential to convert the v500 into the v510.
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
I thought XDA was so flash-a-holics could get their fix via nighties...
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
Let me clear up your confusion ,

1. No I am not complaining, just merely expressing my views which I think is a big part of XDA.

* *Now I understand that for some (including you) anyone who does not necessarily agree with your views seems like they are complaining,

* but actually most of them are not (including me).

* So in short, just because I chose to add my views DOES NOT mean I am complaining.

* Different people have different views and just because they are different than yours , you cannot start assuming things as you did in

* this case.

2. I have done some cooking in my time, but dont see why is it relevant to this topic, besides I never asked you what I should do.

* *so thanks but no thanks for this piece of unsolicited advise.

3. That is not same as stock GPE and I(and many others) have already covered the reasons why ample times before.

In short,

don't make assumptions,

don't generalise,

& never try and portray that everything you think is good, is good for everyone.

---------- Post added at 09:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:56 AM ----------

Atleast its on its way, based on my ex co-worker, the GPE conversion is not very straightforward due to the new policy reasons. He was explaining further but by then I had already downed 5 beers/shots.:rolleyes:

I hope they update the UI a bit in the next update.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
GUI is surprisingly good but removing recent/multitask button was really stupid idea.
[G Pad 8.3 General] VancouverOaf:
If you hold long on the centre home button, you get the task manager and switching ability like the recent button. Not the same but similar workflow.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
I know that but that's not as quick as just press a button. Fanny is that they support 8 different combination for front screen buttons but none with recent button :D
[G Pad 8.3 General] ptrsnshane:
With G2 Xposed module there is an option to add a recents key.
[G Pad 8.3 General] android404:
May I assume that you're talking about something else then a leaked stock kitkat which I haven't heard of?
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
I was commenting previous post about Google play and stock rom (still JB). Sorry if I gave false hope about leaked KK.
[G Pad 8.3 General] stupid_one:
Which g2 exposed module are you referring to? I can't seem to find any g2 specific modules when I search using the exposed app.

Help please!
[G Pad 8.3 General] ptrsnshane:
Search G2 Xposed in the playstore created by Brendon Sled.
[G Pad 8.3 General] uzumakisoeoaksan:
Why G Pad lates in getting update?

LG G Pro Gets official 4.4 in Korea.

Here is the link.

http://www.gsmarena.com/korean_lg_optimus_g_pro_gets_android_44_kitkat_update-news-8095.php
[G Pad 8.3 General] burgeke:
Link doesn't appear to be related to the G Pad. ??
[G Pad 8.3 General] Aeras76:
G PAD 4.4.2 V18A *.tot file

https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=Y3nGK2YBpjMGRPB1/rQLvZS4IT92kT/wC59x1BRnStA=

How to unpack

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2600575
[G Pad 8.3 General] Jikul:
What's that?

Enviado do meu LG-V500 através de Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
Seems to be 4.4.2

# begin build properties

# autogenerated by buildinfo.sh

ro.build.id=KOT49I.V50018a

ro.build.display.id=KOT49I.V50018a

ro.build.version.incremental=.1391593956

ro.build.version.sdk=19

ro.build.version.codename=REL

ro.build.version.release=4.4.2

ro.build.date=Wed Feb 5 18:58:33 KST 2014

ro.build.date.utc=1391594313

ro.build.type=user

ro.build.user=anna0514.cho

ro.build.host=vegita193

ro.build.tags=release-keys

ro.product.model=LG-V500

ro.product.brand=lge

ro.product.name=awifi_open_cis

ro.product.device=awifi

ro.product.board=AWIFI

ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a

ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi

ro.product.manufacturer=LGE

ro.product.locale.language=en

ro.product.locale.region=GB

ro.wifi.channels=11

ro.board.platform=msm8960

# ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device

ro.build.product=awifi

# Do not try to parse ro.build.description or .fingerprint

ro.build.description=awifi_open_cis-user 4.4.2 KOT49I.V50018a .1391593956 release-keys

ro.build.fingerprint=lge/awifi_open_cis/awifi:4.4.2/KOT49I.V50018a/.1391593956:user/release-keys

ro.build.characteristics=tablet

# end build properties
[G Pad 8.3 General] genge:
Do you have flash that?
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
Yes you have to flash the tot file. You can break it apart with the tool linked to.

Seems to work. Haven't had time to look for any bugs yet, but I'd say it's the first taste of KitKat.
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
[MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION] can you use what you learned from the G2 KK update and get us a rom that will work with a custom recovery?

Looks sweet, were you able to keep root?

EDIT not keep but were you able to root
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
Is sd card writable with any applications?

Unbelievable, still menu button instead of recent.
[G Pad 8.3 General] freezenook:
Please make guide "How to flash it".
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
I was able to root with the original Gpad root. However looking through the aboot with hexeditor it looks like this aboot was been patched against loki exploit. Therefore no recovery.

External SD card still has write issues.

I could make a tutorial for the way I did it but I don't think anyone wants to be updating aboot just yet. Think it would be safer for those that tinker to pull the partitions and make a flashable. It's late for now, I'm not sure I'm even reading the hex right but I think it's cross writing addresses from aboot and kernel/ramdisk so to patch loki.
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
It appears to be just like the G2. The devs found a way once the kernel source was released to keep a custom recovery and update. We probably have to wait. Have you tried going back to 4.2.2? That's what G2 users were able to do when they wanted to get a custom recovery going again. I do think twrp may need to be upgraded in order to flash lg kk Roms.

Thanks for the update. If you are able to go back to stock I may try it out and just restore once a exploit/rom is made.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
Can you explain sd card write issue further? I suppose it's about "feature" introduced with kk, that app can only write into its own folder on sd card. What breaks many apps functionality. File explorer as the best example.

Looks like that Android from 4.4 version became crippled without root or custom rom.
[G Pad 8.3 General] testadeferro:
That's Google fault with security paranoia. The ad card in 4.4.2 is able to read only. In order to be write/read you must to use xposed or something similar to get a work around. Cheers.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
I know that, that's way I wrote "Android from 4.4 version became crippled without root or custom rom."

Which means for most users! For some, because they don't know how or afraid to root, etc. For others, because root is not available for their devices.

For me one of the biggest reason to buy G Pad instead of Nexus is ability to use sd card. I thought that LG will be smart enough to remove this paranoid feature.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
I have a busy day planned today but will get back at it this evening or tomorrow.

The root is only temporary for ADB which is all I need for now, but it's gone after each reboot, also to use it with apps(ES file for example) I have to manually run su --daemon over ADB. Since this is KitKat I assume I need to run the daemon at boot which I need to figure out.

For the SDcard write I just tried to use ES to rename a file, and tried to copy something across USB. I assume that could be cleared up with modding permission for sdcard_r.

I also want to try going back to 4.2.2. I don't see a tot file for that though, need to find out whats in the kdz.

Have any specific links to the G2 stuff, I would guess it's close to the same. I can search but if you have anything useful please share.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
Thanks for keeping us updated.

What's your overall impression of kk? Worth it to update and get problems you mentioned?
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
It's hard to comment, in fact I may be the worst person to evaluate since I didn't use stock 4.2.2 much, went straight to CM11. It's smooth, and flashy at least I didn't notice a slow down from CM11. Haven't tried ART. I don't like the menu button instead of recent though. I suppose one could get use to the swipe aside of whatever they call it. I only played around for maybe an hour, before I started looking closer at aboot and that took the rest of the night.

EDIT: Here is the aboot if anyone else wants to examine it/give it to djrbliss etc. It was late maybe I am wrong.

Aboot base 88EFFFD8

Sig check 88F119D0

Boot linux 88F0D1A8

http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/aboot.bin
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
In short not so worth it. At least new lilbs and kernel.

If you still have it flashed, could you check is gamma corrected?
[G Pad 8.3 General] azcamm27:
Has anyone else flashed this is it possible to return to 4.2.2 to regain root.
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
Doesnt matter if gamma is corrected (uncorrected its at 2.4 instead of 2.2, so who cares). Crap shadow detail and washed out whites are from bad contrast settings. Look at a 0-255 level chart, reguardless of gamma fix, you wont see much below 8 or above 245. Gamma problems will make it a little non linear going from 0-255, but contrast adjustments are what will allow us to see 0-255. I bet no one would even care about gamma if we could get that going.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
OK, whatever needs to be corrected, is it corrected?
[G Pad 8.3 General] ydkyz:
only care about the gamma issue.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
How do you want me to check gamma/contrast? I never put much effort behind this previously.

Looking at a 0-255 chart I can see everything pretty well. Most telling of an improvement personally is playing Game of Thrones in Mxplayer. It has a ton of dark scenes that I couldn't see anything before and it's pretty clear. Very subjective but it seems no just better but vastly better.

Permission fix for external SD worked fine.

No progress on returning to 4.2.2. Couldn't get mobile support tool installed(B2C) on the laptop and kids having a huge sleep over for spring break so the other 4 computers are in use. Also all the KDZ extractors don't seem to work with these gpad ones.

Didn't even get in to permanent root.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
Good news that LD fixed display. How did you fix external sd card issue?
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
I don't know if external works with apps, probably have to use a directory bind tool/symlink for that. But you can write by giving gid media_rw permission to write external storage.

So I reverted to v50010A, installed TWRP so you CAN go back to 4.2.2. I just used the LG support tool and entered V500, and serial number and it downloaded the kdz. I couldn't get any of the other methods to work with the KDZ's out there available for download to use in the R&D tool, and everything I used to extract the KDZ failed. I grabbed the KDZ the Support Tool downloaded, and when the tool extracted it I grabbed the DZ and dll as well. I didn't try but the DZ might be usable in LG flash tool, it passed the bin/CRC check anyway. After it restored it was stuck in a bootloop but using the power+vol-, release power, all 3 it then entered factory reset and then it booted fine.

I'm not so sure about the gamma stuff now. While on 4.2.2 I looked at the same chart and videos and it doesn't seem as different as I thought. Going back to 4.4.2 to work on getting super user permanent.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Zeljko1234:
Thanks for answers. For me is good enough to make sd card r/w to access files, using file explorer or any other apps. No need to move app to sd card.

To change media_rw permission device must be rooted, I suppose? What you cannot accomplish permanently for now.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
You can do it with temporary root. Start su --daemon via ADB. Put ES file explorer in Root Explorer mode and remount system RW. Edit platform.xml in /system/etc/permissions. That's a permanent change so it survives reboot without root.

I'm sure permanent root won't be that difficult to obtain.
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
Have you tried kingo? The other guys in the other thread said it will root for you. If you have trouble the first time reboot and try again.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
I saw that it was working great, and for the Verizon too. Thank you.

I have issues with how they handled "the great controversy", I don't think it's malware or info collector just don't like the transparency. Petty of me I know, but I won't use it.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Impromark:
For the Lay-Persons amongst us (or just me), is the .TOT the "official" KK release, or a close enough build thereto, that has been leaked out?

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
Build.prop says release-keys so we assume it's "close enough"

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51297354&postcount=129
[G Pad 8.3 General] Impromark:
Thanks! I'm not about to flash this, but it's good to hear that it's inching closer to a proper release...

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 General] alakiha:
Are we going to have knock on-code on LG G pad also?
[G Pad 8.3 General] jonapunk:
We already do..... Or at least I do
[G Pad 8.3 General] alakiha:
Do we? I know we have knock-on and off but by knock on code I meant :