[Motorola Droid RAZR] SimpTheChimp:
So... here's the latest scoop: I went to 10/30 also (haven't had your problems yet, Ohmster, but after your report I am expecting them any time!) :oAnyway, once again today I tried to update some of my apps (from Play Store reporting I have updates) only to find I got the famous 'Insufficient memory' message. Now, understand, I pack a -lot- of apps on my phone - when updating CM this morning after clearing the cache, CM reported it was 'optimizing' 190 apps I believe. Some of those, of course, may have been system apps; but the idea is that I do carry around quite a few apps (just in case I ever need them). But I NEVER get close to

running

all those apps at the same time - I don't think the phone could handle that anyway.

Now the interesting part - my wife has a Bionic which ALSO has CM 11 on it - for the first time she got the same message about insufficient memory when she tried to update one of her apps! And she runs light, she doesn't have anything near the amount of apps I run!

As far as 'memory' goes - I look at it this way: That 1GB you were talking about - to me - is RAM memory that is used for RUNNING apps. I don't think that is what the problem is here. Then there is the memory that is used to STORE apps - kinda like storing them on the hard drive in a regular computer. I'm not sure, but I believe that this is where the problem is occurring - how or why I don't know.

Looking at that, I bring up SafeStrap, and view the slot storage map. There's INTERNAL memory - which, unless I am mistaken, is where the system part of the ROM goes. That to me is unavailable - that is what gets flashed when you flash the ROM. When I flashed the ROM I selected a size of 800MB (I think 700MB is the default for this so I did increase it a bit). Then, in our case (using SafeStrap), I selected a data partition size of 2500MB, which I figured was a way good amount of storage space (even for 190 apps - most apps are pretty small). If I am right, this is where apps are stored (like a hard drive on a PC). Finally I used the cache size default of 300MB (I didn't think increasing this would help at all). On top of this I have an actual SD card which now has 6455MB free.

So 2500MB would seem to me to be more than sufficient even for 190 apps. Bringing up System Info, it shows that I have: Internal Memory 322.65MB free (which should be more than enough to handle the 24+ MB of the Facebook app, which in my case was the one giving me the memory error); SDCard = 4225MB free; and ExtSDCard = 6455MB free. RAM was reported to be 27% free (227MB). So again, I would think that nothing showing should give me any problem with installing a 24MB app. (Reinstalling, actually).

Which is why I think there is SOMETHING else going on in theses ROMs, especially CM. I don't know what it is, but I don't think it is relating to any of the memory places we have been talking about. Maybe there is some memory table or something somewhere that is overflowing? (In the early 16 bit days of Windows this was a common issue - people would to me 'Why am I running out of memory when I have 2GB of RAM' - which was a lot in that day. Turns out it wasn't memory that they were running out of, but rather memory in an internal list/table/structure that couldn't handle the load - which is why we are at 32 and 64 bit now!) So are we running into something like that with CM? Or is it a bogus message caused by some bug? That's the question - I don't know myself. All I know is that it is mighty aggravating! :mad:

BTW, the only way I could get the updated Facebook to install was to uninstall a couple of apps - the Facebook installed normally. Again, this seems mighty strange since it looks like I have plenty of memory/storage space available.

Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on how you look at it) it may be a moot issue for my and my wife - our phones are getting really old; not only is the dual processor just not cutting it for some of the apps we want to run, but the battery life is not that great either. So we are planning in the next few weeks to go ahead and upgrade to the new Verizon plans (I will hate to lose my unlimited data, but oh well!) and get new phones - and I will probably do what the other guy did and go with the Droid Turbo - that battery is massive and awesome! So my time with CM is probably very short now... but it's been a fun ride!

Anyway, now I am equaling you in long posts!!;) But that is what I am seeing so far, so hopefully this will help someone figure out what is going on (unless I really do have to set up a 4GB SafeStrap slot to run my phone in!!)

-Tom (SimpTheChimp)