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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION], I just took another look at your first screenshot and yes, yours is the same as mine, as far as from app, but you have the voice model options and the from any screen option. Clearly, your setup has more options and it looks like the OK Google hands free option is still there.

If you get a minute free, can you try turning on the OK Google from any screen and see if you can then say "OK Google" out loud to the phone and if the mic comes up. Ask a simple question like "What time is it in New York" and you should get an answer. That would prove your voice search still works. Turn it off afterwards if you do not use it to save battery. Thnx!

Get some sleep my friend. :)

EDIT:

Actually, I did tap the Google app bar on any desktop and from that point, Google Voice works perfectly. I did ask it what time is it in Cape Town and got the answer, 1:15 AM. Wow, you really *do* have to go to bed! I also tried one of the more advanced options, "Remind me to buy cigarettes" and was prompted as to when or where. I said "5 minutes" and the reminder was saved. It does seem to work, although in 5 minutes, I failed to get any notification to buy cigarettes. I checked reminders and mine was still there. I will try some more things like this for research and see what happens. Having Google Voice activate only when I tap the search bar on any desktop is a good feature. I do not have to turn on OK Google and it works the same, does not double the idle frequency of my phone, and is fully responsive when I tap the bar. I even get back speech dialog from the phone. "Not having the choice" to activate OK Google detection bothers me a bit, more than not having it because I do not want it. This is really puzzling and something new and fresh to investigate.

Anyone else with OK Google detection is invited to comment. Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Hi [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]

I did do a short test last night and OK Google did work without using the search-bar widget (in fact, I currently don't have the widget on my desktop). It seemed to work even though I didn't enable it in Nova Launcher's settings (odd, but not too concerned). I'll test a bit during the day.

If you have Chrome on your PC and a mic, then I'm not wrong to assume you've tried out saying "OK Google" to your browser? I have Chrome installed, even though I actually use Opera as my default browser. But I guess with Google getting so personal with me, one more Google product could surely not hurt.

Not too long ago I discovered the hotword detection in Chrome. Not too shabby! I can't remember if I had to enable it in settings or not - so it might not work straight out-of-the-box. Perhaps you even need to enable Google Now (can't quite remember). For some reason it impressed me more than speaking to my phone did.

I have a Logitech C920 webcam which I practically only actually use for the built-in mic (like for gaming and TeamSpeak). Little did I know it would become so useful.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
What say [MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION]!

Yeah, I got a mic and Chrome. You know I got a rig man, we are gamers! I never tried this in Chrome and took a look, the OK Google you are talking about is in Settings, Search, Say "Ok Google" in a new tab and google.com. Gosh, it works really well and is exactly like the Android version, except the Android version of Voice does make a cute beep sound and talks back to you. This one does not, but the results are the same. I could probably get it to speak back with accessibility options, under advanced. Yeah you can download HQ US Female speech. Oh man, this is only the voice, you still need a TTS engine to make it work! Dragon has one. Oh man, this is a hassle. It only reads text you type in a box. Forget it. I cannot make a Droid out of a PC.

Hey the OK Google does work quite well in Chrome, thanks for the tip!

OK so your OK Google detection works from any screen and without tapping on the app. You have it enabled to do this? You "just talk" and say out loud "OK Google" and the mic activates, phone beeps, and takes your speech input? If so, then yours does work. Not mine, unless I use the app and tap it once. And it used to work fine, only problem is that Voice just was not what it is cracked up to be, I gave up on it. Hmmm...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
My "OK Google" seems to work as it always has. I will report back if in fact this isn't actually the case. But it is quite baffling that you no longer have it. Very strange.

Oh, and actually, I don't know why but just yesterday I did an "OK Google" in Chrome on my PC (oh, I was showing my brother who just bought a new laptop). I searched his name, and although I have no clue who this person was that Google found, Google did tell me a thing or two out loud in case I couldn't read - and I've not configured anything myself in this regard.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Krauzaa:
[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION], [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] you have soft keys on. Does you turn off hardware key? If yes, how?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Krauzaa:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] oh, i thought you turn off hardware back, home and menu keys, and turn on softkeys to use only softkeys. Thats my point. But i concluded after you latest post, you hadn't disabled front hardkeys.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] welder73:
Why would anyone do that when we already have hardware keys,to shrink the screen? :p

No thanks,I love those keys ;)

Sent from my Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Oh yes, I actually enabled the nav bar kind of for the cursor control arrows when typing, also it's nice to quickly access your recents (not that holding in home key is a problem). But I haven't disabled any keys.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
Actually, yes, you should disable the hardware keys when you enable the navbar (the navbar does not duplicate the hardware keys, the navbar is software designed to be a virtual navigation system) . It makes for a smoother experience. It is improbable for the navbar to fail, because it relies on this piece of code in your build.prop qemu.hw.mainkeys=0.

Even if the navbar did fail, you could always reboot and manually edit the hard keys file again to enable the hard keys after a reboot. Or, you could delete qemu.hw.mainkeys=0, paste it in the build.prop again, and after a reboot you would be good to go. See, there is always a way out with software. ;)

Edit: The whole point of custom ROMs if the freedom of preference. Sorry, [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION].
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
I know what you're saying, but why go to the effort of disabling? Just use the navigation bar exclusively.. ;). To be honest, I use either or though. I don't have a hard recents button but I can long-press the home key, so I just use whatever feels right at the time. In other words, I use the two differently, so in a sense I gain some extra customization.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
"It is improbable for the navbar to fail"

The nav bar is virtual buttons on the screen. If something makes the screen go black, then the nav bar is not there anymore. But the front button will always be there, this is the point.

One can do anything they want with their own phones, dude. People buy cars, break out the windows, saw off the roof, and make custom hot rods all the time. Can you do it? Sure. Have I done it? No. Krauzaa asked if *I* did this to my own phone and my honest answer is no. But anyone can "do anything they want to do", with their own phones, it goes without saying. :p

The point of a long press on the back key was to escape a misbehaving app *without* having to reboot, i.e.: Traveling in car, using nav, a music apps hangs, do not want to reboot or I might pass destination before I can get nav back up and running. That is just one example of how I use my own phone and is a true story. It happened about twice when we were trying different roms. :D

Edit:

It's all good, [MENTION=5711114]Bobcus Leper[/MENTION]. No one is "right all the time". Not me, not you, not anybody. But as a group, with many contributing members, we do pretty good for ourselves. ;) :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Does Chrome start by itself?

[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION]

Since we were talking about Chrome on the PC and you were telling me how it is very much like the Android version of Voice, I tried it out. I had to enable it in the Settings for PC Chrome, under Search. I then set my default mic and raised the mixer level for Chrome. Yes, it is exactly like Google Voice. Chrome does listen and answer to the OK Google prompt. The beep occurs, the program listens and returns results, speaking them quite clearly. But since enabling all of this talking Chrome, something rather unusual is happening on my PC....

I mostly use Firefox since I do like the plugins for it, especially AdBlock which Google does not support. While using Firefox, for no apparent reason, Chrome just "launched itself" and was standing by. I thought this might be a virus or something, but Chrome did not seem to have any agenda. I closed the browser and went on with my business. But since then, Chrome seems to launch itself at any given moment. I am not at the computer overnight and when I wake up, there is Chrome on the screen, just "waiting". While watching the TV card, Chrome self launches again. I really don't quite understand this. Have you had any incidents where Chrome launches itself? Mind you, Firefox is set as the default browser so I do not think it can be a launch default browser issue, it only seems to affect Chrome. It sort of creeps me out a bit. Has anything like this happened to you? :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]

I don't use Chrome as my default either (this is where Opera comes in). I have never seen it launch itself. The only thing I've ever seen is the bell icon in the taskbar - I believe this is something to do with Google Now. But the browser itself stays put. Very very odd. And if you revert your settings - like disable the voice activation? Unless you have enabled something else in the settings. Not at my PC right now, so can't see what the settings are.

But I didn't actually do much. I think I just enabled it and/or selected my mic (but since I only have one, perhaps I didn't need to select my mic - can't quite recall). But that was about all I did, I didn't do anything noteworthy.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION] Wow, thanks for answering so quick. No, I haven't reverted settings or done any scans, yet. One thing I often do is to use a free programs like Autoruns to scan my startup programs and trim them down a bit. This is like msconfig, but way more powerful. I know that Google starts up a LOT of stuff upon login and not all of it is necessary. You can disable startup programs permanently or temporarily with Autoruns. There is a startup program for Chrome listed that I had disabled previously and now that startup link is back. That is probably what is causing it. I think by enabling Chrome all over again, that it put the startup link back. I am going to delete the older registry link and put the new one on Hold again to see if it comes back. If it does, then I will disable the OK Google detection because I do not really want to burn horsepower for a computer that is always listening on the chance I might give it a Chrome command.

Casper I don't have a bell in the taskbar. What happens when you mouseover the icon? Most of the taskbar icons will ID themselves with a mouseover. If not, a right click, if nothing else, then clicking or double clicking the icon to see what it does. What does this bell ID itself as? Or is it gone now?

If you never used Autoruns (Free Microsoft program) then you would be surprised at how much stuff is set to run at login. Thanks for the quick reply, I will keep you updated. ;)

Good looking out man.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]

The bell icon I think is when you have notifications or Google Now cards. So if you haven't enabled Google Now (I don't remember when our where I did this), then you most likely won't see that icon. It barely shows up for me. Although, since I don't need Google Now on my PC, I should actually disable it. I think I just wanted to see it on PC - but the novelty has worn off. I do like the "OK Google" in Chrome though because it is super responsive on the PC. So I'm happy to leave it enabled for that odd occasion.

Let me know if you come right. I'll check out Autoruns.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION] oh yeah that's right. Google does use a bell for notifications! I am going to try to leave Chrome setup for voice because it *does* work extremely well on a PC. I just do not want the overhead of too many startup programs that essentially do nothing for me, they just run to update themselves and the product services. Adobe is particularly guilty of this with all of it's software. Quicktime does this, a lot of things "junk up" the startup programs but you do not see this without using msconfig or better yet, Autoruns. Okay, I have the startup link disabled for Chrome, I will reboot and see if it stops haunting me. Thanks! :good:

P.S.

No, I didn't enable any sort of Google Now on the PC. I did do this on the 2 android devices, but not the PC. Explains why I do not have a bell. There is simply too much software that "wants to run all the time", buddy up with you and *always* run to give you notifications, updates, speed up launching it's own software. I imagine if every program did this? I would have no RAM left at all. This rig has 16 Gb of DDR3 RAM so I do not notice this stuff unless I dig for it. I want Google when I use it, just not running several processes at all times, even when not in use.

EDIT:

After rebooting with the disabled Chrome startup link, I rechecked Autoruns and the Chrome startup link is gone. Screenshot of Autoruns attached. However, there are several more Google startup links for updates and sync. This is a small window of Autoruns, ususally I run it full screen so that I can see everything. I also use it on the Everything Tab to find dead registry links, they will be colored in yellow and have the note, "file missing" so this process can never run. I then cleanup the registry by deleting all dead, yellow links. Chrome still works, although it took several seconds to display the "OK Google" prompt. The startup registry link for Chrome has not reappeared. Hope this helps. :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
CM11 I am satisfied

Well, it appears we have come all the way to the end of the line with CM11 rom for Razr phones. I still get updates for it on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, 10.1, but so far as the phone goes, the June 26th snapshot is it. Funny, all the other snapshots have names. This one has a really unfriendly name, cm-11-20150626-SNAPSHOT-XNG3CAO1L8-spyder.zip (XT912). Where they get that, I don't know. But for a finished product, this is pretty darned good. I have been running it since release and have no complaints, other than aging hardware.

Very Special Thanks to [MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION] for hanging in there and continuing development even after it was seemingly "abandoned" by CyanogenMod. Michael pressed on and did the updates on his own and released them, unofficially, by way of his university server. After 4 much improved updates, all of his work was merged into the final build for the MC11 tree. Thank you Michael for not dumping cm11, even after taking on the build responsibilities for cm12.

Do I have issues? Sure, but none that I can attribute to a faulty rom. It seems to be just the result of an underpowered phone for a new rom. Occasionally apps hang and there is lag. The worst is when an app will hang at a black screen and take a long time to load, or I get tired of waiting and kill it with a long press to the back key. (Enable this in Developer Options) I never really have to reboot it to make it work again, but I do it once in a while just to clean out the cache. I do some light multitasking with this phone and although it is no "Speedy Gonzales", it does all of the things I want at the same time. This is good! :good:

Overall I am quite pleased with this final cm11 build and have no real complaints. I think the phone is pushed as hard as it can go, although the reports on cm12.x are quite promising. These OMAP4 devices really lack all of the hardware necessary for a true Lollipop rom, but, the final cm12 might end up being pretty good. Since this is my only working phone, I don't experiment with cm12 as I cannot afford beta issues.

For a 2nd rom I really need time to do it and tweak it up. I want to install PAC-ROM because of all the good reports on it. Although, the desire to try CM12 is pretty strong. I can really only run 2 roms on this phone with comfort. Anymore roms then 2 will seriously press me for sdcard space and I end up with a compromised rom due to card space.

I am going to give CM11 final snapshot a thumbs up and would really love to hear any other comments on the rom and if you like it or dislike it, if so, why? I had a lot of fun in this thread and learned a real lot from each and every member to post. I am going to miss you guys. :good:

Thoughts, comments, and experience with cm11 is welcome. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jhb04jhb04:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION], I've never formally introduced myself to you but I have followed your posts and enjoyed your informative reviews on the CM11 nightlies . I considered myself a CM loyalist but CM11's development seemed to suffer at the end, and I felt that they moved too quickly on CM12 before developing a reliable CM11 rom. Like you, I needed a rom that was good as a daily driver. I sincerely appreciate stargo's commitment to making CM available for us XT912 user's. He worked so hard and as a community we owe him our gratitude. In the end, I believe it was tonyt's AOKP 4.4.4 that proved to the most stable and reliable. No glitches, no black screens or lag, it simply works well. As of right now, Liquidsmooth has the best rom for Lollipop. The 070715 build has been my daily driver. The rom has kernal audiutor built in, and my Low Memory Killer (LMK) settings were recommended by [MENTION=5057697]welder73[/MENTION]. In addition, I used Paget96's L Speed 2.3 mod. This setup has allowed me to use 12.1 as a daily driver with none of the issues that I am experiencing with the latest CM roms. I hate to leave CM but even with the final CM11 snapshot and latest CM12.1 nightlies, I still experience lagging apps, latency in dialer response, and the infamous black screens. I'm not sure how Liquidsmooth was able to overcome these issues but it has. I still haven't written off CM, I still follow the CM11 and 12.1 forums and will flash the latest nightly occasionally to see how things are coming along. I definitely appreciate you and others such as yourself who have been very helpful.

It'll be interesting how Android M will play out. I am cautiously optimistic about Android M and our XT910/12. I think we will have a working version of it but as our phones get older, it may take more time and modification to make it work. Awhile ago, I bought a used Samsung Galaxy S4 for a real good price. I really enjoyed having a phone with 2GBs of RAM! And even though Touchwiz gets a bad rap. I was very impressed on how stable and fast it was running on 5.0.1. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way that many S4 models were known to have antennae and bluetooth connectivity issues. So I'll need to tear it down and fix it. But until then my XT912 continues to serve me well.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TheHarbinger:
My CM11 Experience

Since I've loaded the 6/26 build I've seen no major issues. THings run smoothly for the most part. I have a couple of apps that lag but they're not critical and I may try some substitutes. I still can't figure out why the Google voice app was working on last November's build (the last one I'd loaded before 6/26) in ROM slot 1, but requires a tap to start it with 6/26 loaded in stock. Perhaps Google changed the app when it was updated, perhaps something else is off. But other than that no major issues.

Ohmster, you said you didn't want to run multiple ROMs due to SD card space. I have a 16GB external in my XT912 and was thinking of doubling that to 32GB. The prices are cheap enough these days. Had you considered that? Oh, and if I decided to do that, what would be the best way to copy my old card's contents to the new one?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
[MENTION=2591917]TheHarbinger[/MENTION],

The trouble is, the external SD Card space cannot be used to load and run ROMs. Only the internal (non-replaceable) SD Card can be used. On the internal SD Card on the xt912, it is also further sub-divided into partitions set forth by Moto themselves, some of these partitions are inaccessible by standard means.

In my times i had found, and was looking in setting up, a modified SafeStrap version that makes these other partitions available (particularly /preinstall and /webtop, webtop bring the big one), which would essentially allow many more ROMs to be loaded while not taking up space on the standard system partition. It's based off of SS 3.75 last i saw.

Forum thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/droid-razr/development/recovery-safestrap-3-75-unused-t3032675
[Motorola Droid RAZR] draltus:
Bmm system 1 and 2 are working. But ohter slots are cause a lot of problems. Like mount storages, camera etc.

XT910 cihazımdan Tapatalk ile gönderildi
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jacek607:
wi-fi not working

hello

I have installed it on slot-2. I can't connect to wi-fi. I tried to find my wi-fi mac address in settings, but it says it's unavailable :confused:

How to fix that?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DumbleCore:
open terminal emulator and type

su -> enter

wifical.sh -> enter

then toggle airplane mode or reboot

dunno if works on 4.4 but worked on other versions,worth a try! :P
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nandeh:
Safestrap 3.63 Slot 1 everything is working fine, but camera ask to insert SDcard to work, even with that is inserted and detected by others apps like Gallery...

All other stuff is working almost perfect to be a recent version.

Enviado desde mi XT910 mediante Tapatalk
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tydiamond11:
Well It was all fine I just could not stay on it all the time because of my stuff being on slot 1 with cm10.1.3
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kenosis:
I had same problem. After formatting Storage, it is ok now. I can use camera and gallery now

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Superuser denied although there is superuser in settings. I think this rom has no root yet.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DumbleCore:
is it possible to activate it in settings,developer options???

under roor acces it should be possible to enable
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ktimque:
Definitely rooted, i'm pretty sure superuser is built in.

how did you format storage/did it erase anything?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Antiapplekid:
I have sort of a noob question I have been wondering this for a while is there a way to get the motoblur keyboard on a custom rom
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kenosis:
I did Full Wipe and Installed again. Now, superuser is working :)

For formatting storage, i used BMM and formatted "int"
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DRIPSTER1:
I installed it to slot two. I went into titanium backup it says my sd card is not mounted, and it tells me to tick off usb debugging, but there is no developers option area to tick usb debugging off at! What am I missing?:confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Enter the about menu in settings scroll down to build number and tap until the pop up says your now a developer. Then developer options will be available.

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 10.2 JBX Kernel