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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Thanks for the nice words.

The 05/14 build had been on the phone almost a full day an night. I have NO issues with it. Many testers here are pushing the limits, trying to create force closure scenarios and report back the results. This is VERY helpful to the developers. Thank you.

I did my update "Average Joe" style, as any consumer would reasonably have to do to give average users, your wives, kids, and yourself, and idea of just how the phone works normally. No tweak, custom kernel, or any tampering with the system. So for me, I was on a stable but with signal problems April build, 04/19, right before theme engine and Easter. Update was done through Setting menu, About Phone, CyanogenMod Updates. I picked the latest one available, 05/14. The file downloaded and I tapped the door icon to install. Everything went smooth, the phone rebooted, I tapped xposed installer to activate the framework and rebooted. The phone works quite well, GPS, bluetooth, WifFi, and of course, phone calls. I called myself while screen was black and it did what it should, lit up, showed the incoming call, answered, hung up, all is well.

A full day and night later, the phone and everything about it works quite well. I would say this is a keeper. Are there any problems at all? Oh I am sure if I dig hard enough, I could find something wrong. The video camera pause dot is 2mm in size, impossible to tap dead on with finger, so a paused video recording would almost certainly crash when you try to release pause, miss that very tiny do by a hair, and there goes the entire recording.

That really needs to be fixed. Just make the pause release bigger or something.

Can I "make this thing crash"? I suppose, but then again, you could try real hard to blow the engine in your car if you want and probably will do it. I am not trying to crash it,

I am trying to use it and live with it.

The phone had not locked up, black screen, or crashed once in almost 24 hours.

I think this build is pretty good and will try the next update after finishing testing this one and backing it up. :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
I can average about 20-25% on minimum brightness for a hour.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
I am now on 05/14 and have it for about 24 hours. Has not crashed or locked up once. My memory floats at around 120, when making a call. I also have about 250 apps installed. Internal space is at a premium. So far this build is working very well for me.

I think there is a misconception about the term "Dirty Flash". It somehow implies that the user is somehow "doing something wrong or bad". When we had original Verizon or other Razr phones and you had a system update available, you taped the update, downloaded and installed it. Nobody ever called that a "dirty flash", it was simply a system update. CyanogenMod gave us the very same tool in cm11, an OTA updater. It contains all the necessary scripts to wipe the old system, preserve data, and update the system. There is nothing "dirty" about it. It is simply a system update. Granted, we are using nightly builds so not every one of them will be an improvement, but the way you update with OTA is not dirty.

Omegadrive is a senior member and certainly knows his way around phones and updates. What I think he was trying to say is that he did not install the build "clean", as in totally wiping the existing system and starting over from scratch. He actually did a completely clean install of M6, from scratch, but the snapshot itself had inherent problems that we all learned about a couple of days later, confirmed by stargo, our developer.

Have a system installed, download another one, simply flash it and not wipe anything, now THAT is dirty and you can expect problems. But calling an OTA update a dirty flash I do not believe is accurate, it is simply a tool provided to make updating simple, and, it works quite well. I am only saying this because a lot of newbies are now reading this thread and are using as their bible. It would be a shame to give them the impression that if they dare to use the built in updater that they are somehow doing something wrong. Personally, I prefer the OTA update because it is simple and it works. Now installing a custom kernel like JBX means I would have to do that update manually, for ordinary phone users, the built in update works quite well. You do not have to be afraid of it, but be smart, if you have a good working system, do a Safe Strap backup first, in case the update you install turns out to be a bad build. Then reverting to what you had before becomes a simple process. :good:

I think we are getting a LOT closer to a pretty stable build, Omegadrive. If you remember, the beginning of the month builds were so bad you could not even depend on your phone. Don't you think?

NOTE:

If you have a bad system to begin with, an OTA update may not be able to fix it. In such cases where the system becomes so corrupt, or is patched and tweaked so much, even a "System Update" may not be able to fix it. In which case, one would have to do a clean install, meaning wiping the rom slot, recreating it, flashing cm11 and gapps, and starting all over. :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
I did a clean install (into newly created ROM slot2 using SafeStrap 3.72) of CM 5/13 nightly and 5/13 PA Stock GApps. I did need to boost system partition to 800 MB to get stock GApps to fit.

When I reboot SS said it was optimizing 156 apps. Not sure about memory usage. Will run another test and report back.

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx (XT912).

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Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx (XT912).

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Omegadrive:
I only use stock slot, don't have enough free space on SD card to make a second slot, also when rom is optimizing apps I have 233, so yeah, is a lot ?

If I have time this weekend I will do a clean install of whatever latest nightly is available and will try to replicate the crash with minimal apps installed and see what happens, if it doesn't crash after a few tests then restore the rest of my apps and test again and if it crashes will upload the logs.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
Hmm...The XT910 has the same amount of internal memory as my device the XT912 (i.e. 16GB). So, I speculate that you have a lot of media (photos, videos, music, movies) stored on yours.

Is there any chance you can free up 3.1GB on the internal sd storage (not internal memory)? That is all you should need to create a custom ROM slot (with 800MB system, 2GB data, and 300GB cache partitions).

This would let you run some tests with a pristine install and still have your stock ROM slot to fall back on (which is stored in internal memory rather than the internal SD storage BTW) if necessary.

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx (XT912).

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
P.S. If you flash the Paranoid Android stock or full GApps it will load all the Google Apps into the system partition (assuming it is large enough). This will leave more room in the data partition for your other apps.

You can check partition sizes and free space by clicking on your ROM slot in SafeStrap (works for both stock and custom ROM slots). Whenever I come close to maxing out the usable space on a partition I seem to have more problems. That is why I started increasing the system partition size to 800 MB and you may need a larger data partition to hold all your apps. Unfortunately, I don't think you can increase partition sizes for the stock slot. So it may be worth making space for a custom ROM slot if you have nearly maxed out the system and/or data partitions.

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx (XT912).

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I've been on 5/14 for about 30 hours now and no real issues. I am getting orange bars that haven't gone away for over an hour. Seemed to happen when I took my car in for service this afternoon. I drove about 10 miles from home and used Google maps which made my phone get quite warm BTW. Not sure if it got warm due to screen being on for about 20 minutes (unlikely since I've been using my phone for more than an hour while I wait for my car and it's not warm now) or if Google Maps is causing a problem (seems likely).

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx (XT912).

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Mr-Glass:
Been away on the XT926 updates - need to give the XT912 a little love since it is still on a mid-April nightly.. Looks like the latest nightlies have been pretty good from what I skimmed through - any to stay away from?, probably will just grab the latest unless it is horrible.. I use the XT912 at work and home on wifi with google voice for all calls, so really wifi working is an absolute must.. (its been fine for awhile) Thanks for any input..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
05/14 working well for me. Except, I couldn't end two calls from my side since flashing over a day ago.

Nothing new...but apps on SD is a very old problem. Apps that install to SD vanish it seems.. have they not managed to sort this out yet?

Just out of curiosity, anyone else experiencing slow write speed to SD card via PC? It could also be the same with the internal memory, but I'm not sure now. It's the same on mass storage mode and MTP. I have a 16gb SanDisk SDHC Ultra. What could I do here?

Planning to eventually use stock rom slot because I really don't have much space... But I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Try using Airdroid. Transfers using WiFi instead of USB if you have a wireless network (great for home). I find transfer rates much faster when not limited by USB

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stargo:
The issues are not yet fixed, but (at least parts of) the cause are identified. I have built test-images from the current code-base with this and the related revert in the skia-library. These builds can be found here and should not have the SystemUI issue: http://131.188.40.106/cm-11.0/test/

Thanks :)

Please try it with the test-build and see if you can force the crash again.

This shouldn't cause the issue for our phones, unless you modified the ramdisk-image (which I'm pretty sure you did not). And if you did the phone would not work at all.

You then rebooted to end them? Or did the other side hand up and the phone continued to work afterwards?

They don't for me, this should be fixed since mid-january IIRC.

Cheers,

Michael
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Thanks Michael.

Regarding the calls: The other side hung up. But phone functioned normally thereafter. Didn't reboot. Happened only twice so far, Cleared cache etc again, just to be sure. Will keep an eye on it.

SD apps: Hmm, wonder what's up with my setup then..? XDA free app disappeared like 2 or 3 times, reinstalled and it came back. Moved app to phone. Think it'll be fine now.

Think I will consider a clean install sometime too..never a bad idea.

Appreciate your work!! Thank you.

Besides little glitches popping up from time to time, the phone's performance is many times better than stock (and I'm sure all will agree).

Thank you!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stargo:
And now I look again and it seems the real cause was found and a fix committed to the repository: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/64114/

Should be in the next official nightly :)

Hmm, that's strange. What happened exactly? Did the screen not turn on or did the phone not respond to hangup-requests?

Hmm, strange. I just verified that I still have the apps I moved to the sd-card. They are still installed.

Thanks :)

Cheers,

Michael
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Yeah that's true. These phones have an internal 16Gb SD card. Now I don't know exactly why, but when I look at Internal Storage, I only see 8Gb in use. Where did the other half go? I am not exactly sure, I think that part is roped off for the phone system and files and cannot be used for storage. At least, it has always been this way on this phone, even when brand new and unmodified. See screenshots.

Still, even with 8Gb of internal SD Card storage, I can use my stock rom slot for Matt's Utility Jellybean Stock Verizon blur rom, rooted. And then I can delete slot one, recreate it, and bump up the partition sizes a little bit to allow for all the apps. That works pretty good for me. Also, if you can afford it, buy a bigger Ext SD Card. Amazon has a SanDisk 64Gb card for about $40. That was the best $40 I ever spent as it allows me to save music, backups, videos, and photos to my large external card and does not impinge on the space available on the internal card.

Hope this help. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Hmm, that's strange. What happened exactly? Did the screen not turn on or did the phone not respond to hangup-requests

Everything was looking fine. Just no response on hitting "end call". Perhaps it was just something random..as no one else experienced it.

Seems to be fine now though. Don't think you need worry about it. Maybe phone was very low on memory or something, think I did have a game running when it occurred. (Robot Unicorn Attack 2)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
I don't know who you are answering about this, but I had Airdroid in the past and it was a top notch system and file manager. It had so many useful features that I was both impressed with how well it works and what it does, and a bit overwhelmed with what to do with it. Now my WiFi speed transferring files with ES File Explorer are nothing to write home about, 5' or less from the Comcast Wireless Router. So, I am going to install Airdroid again and try that out.

Jake, you are a veritable cornucopia of valuable tips, hints, and help for these phones. One simply cannot thank you enough. But I will try. Thanks buddy! ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
*PSA* Safestrap version 3.73 has been released for both XT910 and XT912

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tydiamond11:
Now that I have a new stable phone I will be using my Droid RAZR to test roms. I am going to restore it back to stock and then root and but cm back on with out jbx for now and see how battery works
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Mr-Glass:
Are you sure you are going to have time with that nice new shiny GS5? ;) seriously though - congrats!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tydiamond11:
Thanks yeah the Verizon gs5 does not have root yet lol

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Omegadrive:
OMG! I love you ?

Installed test build 4 hours ago and have been treating it like an unwanted step child since then, NOT A SINGLE CRASH OR PROBLEM (so far). ?

Many thanks, now I have a fully functional phone (not for long thou as I plan to keep installing nightlies, is in my blood, lol)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
How's this holding up? I want to switch back (for the billionth time) because I'm having issues with WiFi on Resurrection Rom.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Oh I am so on this! We all depend on Safe Strap, cm11 is constantly changing, and we need the latest version to keep up with it. So your PSA is right on time my friend:

Safestrap version 3.73 has been released for both XT910 and XT912

By the way, where are you finding this 3.7.3 for spyder razr phones. The Hash of Codes site lists downloads for spyder, which is what we have, and you click Razr, then Safe Strap, and the highest version I can find is Safestrap-Spyder-3.72.apk. Link is to download page, NOT the file so you all can see what is available. Have you installed 3.72 or really found a 3.73 somewhere? If so, where? Can you provide a link please?

By the way, I remember reading somewhere that Safe Strap apk should ALWAYS be flashed from your stock rom in your stock slot. NOT your current rom such as cm11 running in a standard numbered rom slot. I forget where I read this, and I ignored it, and I remember having problems because of it. I had to go back to recovery, boot to stock, install the apk from there, and then reboot to cm11. I forget the reason for this, but just a fair warning, I did read this in more than once place, I ignored it, and I had problems because of it. But it may not * always* give you a problem. Follow the advice if you wish, but you have been told. I am rebooting to stock Jellybean blur (Matt's Utility, a stock Motorola Jellybean rom for XT912 ONLY, with bloatware removed and rooted.) to install this apk. (I do so miss that 4G icon you get in the stock rom when you really are on 4G.)

I will admit I hate booting to stock rom because I go for long periods between booting it, thus Google wants to update 20 or more applications and begins. Usually I let it proceed, but it is a never ending game of updating. I will let it stay in stock all night, there are over 40 Google updates going on, grrrrrrrrr! :(

Heads Up:

Never install 250 or more apps in stock. Rebooting to stock for whatever reason means Google will immediately begin to update 30 apps and then request your permission, one app at a time, to update the rest (20 more?) due to changed permission. This is utter madness. I am going to strip out stock to bare essentials, gapps, and the few apps I cannot live without and just strip it down, bare bones for this reason. I will gain a LOT of internal SD Card space by doing this too. ...sigh.

Thank you very much my friend. You are one of the most important assets we have here on XDA so far as cm11 and razr phones are concerned. Good looking out! :cyclops:

UPDATE:

Our fine Senior Member, [MENTION=5459763]Noe![/MENTION] has found and posted the correct link to the 3.73 file on crackflasher. Apparently it is not "official" on the hash of codes developer website. I did install 3.72 and it works nicely, but if you want 3.73, go with Noe! :laugh:

http://hosting.crackflasher.com/get...0f/spyder/safestrap/Safestrap-Spyder-3.73.apk

Thanks Noe! :victory:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
Hey Ohmster, that link doesn't link to the apk download. This one does.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dshulman:
I've noticed the last few nightlies have taken a few rings for the screen to come up and show the Answer Call functionality. I don't have today's and will probably do a clean install soon to rule that out. I also have run out of memory and had a black screen causing me to have to reboot. I love the speed and don't really care if I get orange bars (which I still see on 5/15) since I use touchdown for just work email. However not having a solid phone is frustrating.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] morr22066:
Test build

I had been having multiple UI crashes every day, usually when pulling down the status bar to check a notification or use the toggles. The biggest problem was of I had been in Facebook or another memory hog app. I did also get an occasional crash when trying to wake the phone.

I downloaded and installed the test build and have been running it all afternoon and all night and putting it through everything I can think of. I have opened and run every app on my phone and tried to get it to crash, I pulled down the notification bar and used toggles as apps were opening and closing. I switched back and forth between apps while playing music and having downloads going in the background, etc.

I did not have a single UI crash at all, not one in about 10 hours of use and abuse, not even while using navigation. The phone did lag a little but I consider that normal.

This test build is running so well that I may skip the nightly updates for a while and wait for these fixes to be added.

Great job on this test build. This is the best that CM11 has run for me in a long time.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Well well what do you know, who would have guessed but my dearest friend Noe!?

Well no wonder I could not find it at hash of codes, it is on crackflasher. Good looking out, Noe! Now I can download and get on with it. Many thanks! :highfive:

Thanks. LOL! :laugh:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dshulman:
Just downloaded the new 5-17 nightly with the fix. Giving it a try and will reply with any issues.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dshulman:
Opened Facebook and a bunch of other apps, played Star Wars for an hour, made phone calls with different scenarios that caused problems before (keyboard open and closed) and everything was very responsive. Good so far.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
Hi, did you download Stargo's build or the official one from the CM website?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
Not to nitpick, Ohmster, but some of your statements may be confusing to beginners...

Firstly, Matt's Utility does not install a debloated or modified ROM, it installs a Motorola/VZW release image, the same as a Verizon OTA, including all of the original included apps.

Matt's Utility includes a tool to then root the newly installed ROM, it does not come pre-rooted.

Finally, all OEM release ROMs already include what we call gapps. Developers of AOSP-based ROMs (like CM), do not distribute the apps within their release. (I believe because the Google apps are not fully open source, although I could be wrong).

Otherwise, excellent advice for those of us who have to use the stock slot as an emergency spare while "on the road" (or crack flashing :)).

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Very good reporting, dshulman. That is exactly the thing we need around here, diligent testers and reporters. Give details such as method of update, from Settings menu or a wipe and clean install from scratch. Note any problems encountered, and most important, do a followup post in a day to report anything broken. This gives others the information they need to update their phones when they cannot chance a bad build for themselves, the wife, or the kids.

Great work, fellow. Thanks! :good:

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Updated from 05/14 last night to Michael's test build. Manual install went well with a cache and dalvik wipe prior to flashing the update itself, manually. While watching the Terminal Window in Safe Strap 3.72, I noticed that the install itself did indeed wipe the cache and dalvik prior to flashing. File used on my XT912, cm-11-20140516-UNOFFICIAL-spyder.zip.

Install went incredibly well, phone works quite well, signal bars are strong and NOT orange. Haven't had time to put the phone through it's paces but will do this later and report any issues. So far, NONE FOUND. GPS, phone, camera, maps all working very well. Micheal asked for a test and report so I will give it. Plus, this is a really nice rom, best one this month so far, I think. Will follow-up later. Cheers! :cowboy:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dshulman:
I downloaded it from the CM website.

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To add, I decided not to do a clean install this morning after seeing that the memory fix was in the latest build. I've installed about four nightlies that way.