[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
OMG! See? Now THAT is power to burn! Good looking out, [MENTION=5711114]Bobcus Leper[/MENTION]! After your earlier post about what not to get and what I should get, I knew you would come up with something good, and, I did keep that post!

[MENTION=5711114]Bobcus Leper[/MENTION] This Moto-XPure Edition comes with Android™ 5.1.1, Lollipop installed. So does that mean the device does not use Dalvik? What are we dealing with for Lollipop 5.1.1? Runtime is now ART? So that means NO Xposed modules? Maybe we don't need them? I do know for sure that really powerful PCs are not so severely hampered by browser hijackers and minor PUPs and viruses. The infection has to be really bad before you even notice it, unless you are getting ad popups or false browser replies. I never used ART runtime before so this I need to bone up on. Is there any STABLE CM rom suitable for Lollipop? If you or anyone else knows, that is. Thanks. :)

The Razr is a dammed good phone. It had power, memory, and some good storage space when it came out. I still remember gazing at that spiraling galaxy wallpaper in my hands at the Verizon store and I was sold. But FF a couple of years and it is like trying to push a mule through a molasses field. Then Kit Kat came along and like, Wow, *real*, tangible speed came right back. But the apps kept updating, kept demanding more and more memory and CPU power, many of these apps refused to ever quit or go to sleep. If Google would have stopped or at least paused for a year or two with Kit Kat, we still might have really good phones. But NO, here comes Lollipop and before it is really finished, we are at Marshmallow now and if you think that Marshmallow is going to run on a Razr with any degree of usability, I got some prime swampland to sell you. ;)

Since I could never afford the Pure, I figured that the S5 was a "better" phone. Not what I want, but at least a better phone. Then I think it was Bob who said, "Dude, you are buying an older phone, you will have the same problem with the S5 as you have now and it won't take that long to show up". Well, screw that. Since I can rarely every buy a new phone, in for a penny, in for a pound. Find a way to get "The Really Good Phone" and everyone agrees, that would be the Moto-X Pure Edition. Actually, [MENTION=6309629]dtiger1138[/MENTION] is the one to get me hooked on it because that is what he wants. I never heard of it, I know a LOT about MY phones because I intend to root them and possibly destroy them, so for sure I will learn all I can about the phone I own before I dare try rooting or anything else with it. But I am not so keen on new models, that is why I ask you guys for help.

Hey, can I put Safe Strap on this Pure phone? I really like and want to make backups for the phone, especially when I get to romming it. I hope there is a good, stable Marshmallow CM rom but somehow, I doubt it. Maybe root it and use Titanium Backup to de-bloat the phone and remove the ads. That might be good enough for now.

Thanks for egging me on. The more I thought about it, the more convinced I became that I had to somehow go "all in" on this phone because it will probably have to last me at least 3 years or more. Pulling a rabbit out of a hat was the hard part. :D

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[MENTION=4519260]TStarGermany[/MENTION] if you are planning to root that Turbo, don't buy it! I just learned first hand at Verizon and as Bobcus Leper correctly pointed out, you cannot get rootable phones from Verizon anymore and even AT&T is now using the Knox Security set that is built into the phones. Since they are built in to the hardware level, the only thing you will accomplish if you try to root is get a black screen that you cannot fix. I ran back and forth to the Verizon store 3 times the same night, checking the rootability on each really good phone and every one of them has the Knox Security built in. I think that Knox is only for Samsung right now, but starting with the Turo, Verizon is not kidding around with rooted phones anymore, they are stomping them out, with a purpose.

I do not see the point, root users pay their bills same as anyone else. Many manufacturers could care less if you root the phone, all that means is they get more customers who want to buy their phones. But when a huge company like Verizon, say Motorola's biggest customer insists that the phones cannot be rooted, they must comply or lose their biggest customer. Very sad. If I cannot root my phone, I don't want it, and in my zeal for a new smartphone, I almost took home a new phone from Verizon twice. Thank God I had the sense to run home each time to check for root. NONE of the phones could be rooted. If you could root a Samsung phone, you could not use Samsung Pay. Big loss, huh? :rolleyes:

They want to build security into the phones for stupid stuff like "Samsung Pay" in an effort to gain some of that Apple Pay or Pay Pal money. Not going to happen, just how many "pay" services do we need? These commercials that go on and on with so many ways to pay your bill. Click here, call there, autobill, autopay, they have more ways to pay than Carter has pills. Now if they would spend the same effort on how we can NOT pay, I would be a happy man! :laugh: