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[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
Since the release of GPE Devices, people thought that things would change. I am not sure that the devices sold like hotcakes, but I do know some people did buy them. With their release also came the possibility to fully convert your Sense-based HTC One to a fully stock GPE stock android device. Thanks to [MENTION=3537886]graffixnyc[/MENTION] for his thread. Please ask there for questions on how to do that.

Since the other GPE threads got closed down, I'd like to know who has a GPE device/or converted and maybe why you are running with the device or converted? This thread is also open to speculation, theories, and off topic thoughts in anticipation of 4.4 OTA.

While I don't encourage flaming, and google-bashing. I do want this specific thread to be to throw out those ideas about what you think google's plan for GPE devices is and how this will change now that Moto is getting some limelight?

I am currently running a Tmobile USA branded HTC one that I have s-off and fully converted to GPE when 4.4 was announced with the n5. I am still waiting patiently for the OTA and just curious as to why Google is holding on to it when Moto X is getting theirs and has no issues, as well as N4 and other nexus devices.
[One (M7) General] PikkonX:
Same story for me. T-Mobile converted to GPe to give KitKat a try since my Nexus 4 screen is broken. At this point I'm expecting the Developer Edition to be on 4.4 before the GPe so I'll probably be converting back to Dev Edition next week.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
I've read a few people are going that same route also. While it sounds tempting, I'd rather just keep waiting. I have little time anymore to keep switching back and forth. If it does get delayed past January (seems crazy it would) , I may think about it.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] clsA:
To me converting a Sense version 5 or 5.5 to GPE is taking 2 steps backwards. You have in essence turned a Porsche into a VW. I have a HP Touchpad that runs Cyanogen 10.2 and it's just plain and ugly, functional yes but with the stock launcher it's just too plain. My Wife has an HTC First that has the Facebook Home shut off so it's plain android and again it's functional but nothing special. I've had my One since Release and theirs just no way I would give up all the features that HTC has put into the Sense Experience (minus the AT&T Bloat :eek: ) I have run CleanRom, ARHD, and now InsertCoin and this is by far the Greatest Phone I have ever owned. Rock On HTC !!
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
That's why I love this phone so much. I loved sensed 5 when I got it. I converted then I changed back because I missed the features. Once Tmobile finally rolled out the 4.3 update I realized that it didn't make a difference. I had the power to get what I wanted out of the phone . so I fully converted when I saw htc had released their update schedule. In hindsight I could have waited until it was officially out. I guess I got duped by the 15 day delivery period. Still htc has some balls these days trying to climb to the top.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] clay21:
I converted to GPE a couple of days ago but i'm now back on sense. I used to be one of those who flashed aosp roms as soon as i got a new phone but the table has turned.... The Htc One with sense 5 is awesome. Everything is super smooth out of the box and i mean phone and software :D I will convert to DE next week for the sense kit kat update :) A big :good: to HTC for the work they done on Sense 5...keep it up.
[One (M7) General] eradicator006:
As soon as I got my SaskTel (BM__01) phone I converted it to GPE and haven't looked back since. I found sense too dull looking. I'm currently on the latest 4.3 with the google experience launcher and it's perfect.

Originally my plan was to run CM 10.2 but I never got around to installing it. I've been following development for a long time and it seems to be going down the same road as the galaxy s2 did. Little annoying problems that will never be fixed.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
So no one here has been running a real gpe phone?

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] hjjfffaa:
I have a 'real' GPE phone, but I converted to Dev Edition because this phone was awful for me with AOSP.
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
I have been rocking GPE for a couple weeks because I thought the 4.4 OTA was about to drop and wanted to try it. I will convert back to Dev Edition in an instant if 4.4 drops for it though.
[One (M7) General] juanshop:
I am not able to run a ge Rom... It messes up my lte no matter if I flash firmwares or anything. (Tmo btw) on stock firmware I get excellent reception as if I flash ge &firmware I get barely a line of reception and I'm stuck with almost edge speeds until it decides to go down to hspa+ so for me until I find out why, I'm stuck with sense. I did run a ge Rom for a day and besides the network problems, is awesome, I love it.
[One (M7) General] Prosafe:
Though GE was good the out of box sound experience was bad compared to Sense.

And since it seams to take time untill Google pushes KitKat i switched back to Sense.

HTC One | Viper 3.1
[One (M7) General] tacotino:
Can an at&t be converted the developers edition?
[One (M7) General] mitchst2:
I converted mainly for the fast updates (f ewe Google BTW). My plan was to run stock as long as they pushed them out then consider a custom ROM once those dried up.

I've been running gpe about 2 months and love it. Not really missing sense asides camera which for me isn't a deal breaker anyway.

I run a custom launcher and use Tasker to make functional tweaks. Happy with what I've got at the moment but Google are dulling the experience at the moment.

Anyone got a link to a DE conversion thread? If HTC land 4.4 on DE before GPE it may become an option.

BTW HTC make that happen and make Google look like real clowns. Plus you can stick your Motto X.
[One (M7) General] Roadrunner100:
Running a stock 'real' unmolested One GPE and very happy.

I previously had a work supplied One, with Sense. While I do not dislike Sense, I find little use for most of it's features.
[One (M7) General] paul_viado:
i'm running a real GPE one and proud of it. patiently waiting for kitkat as well. did it bother me the ota isnt pushed out yet?? yes but to say the least im happy its still gunna get the update..i for one would rather wait a few to have a good solid build rather than a buggy one..reguardless of what htc did or say..im just happy its getting updated. remember "nexus like" experience this isnt a nexus so of course its gunna lag behind with updates..

truth be told i mainly purchased this device for 2 reasons STOCK ANDROID and REMARKABLE HTC BUILD QUALITY.

evryone can get mad at google or htc and whine about it but thats not going to help push it out faster..also i've been noticing a handful of people dropping this phone real or converted just because the moto x has kitkat..and moviing on to that.

i came from a nexus 4 and honestly this phone runs circles around the nexus perfect size weight build quality and stock android.
[One (M7) General] iKarido:
" [MENTION=494185]LlabTooFeR[/MENTION] One Google Edition will get 4.4 update based on latest build KRT16S"

This might be the reason why 4.4 isn't out yet.
[One (M7) General] mitchst2:
Update back in HTC's hands then? If it is they are keeping that quiet.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
That's great. I was wondering if that was the reason. I'm liking the comments on here and I wonder what the future for gpe will hold. Seems like moto x came back from the grave.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
I'm still using a real GPe. I bought this after selling my att HTC One before the conversion process was made so available.

Liked sense, but didn't need it. Prefer the stock android experience and quick update without flashing. Although that seems to be a problem this time around.
[One (M7) General] Arjen_Arg:
I have a "real" GPE and I like it a lot. Bought on july, no gaps, 1 stuck pixel (noticed it last week) and not so bad tint issue. I'm waiting for the 4.4 GPE OTA, then I will try sense based on 4.4 when it comes out.
[One (M7) General] dipdewdog:
I converted my AT&T One to GPe. Loving it, and eagerly awaiting the update to 4.4... hopefully this doesn't add too much of an additional delay.

http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...4-kitkat-update-based-on-latest-krt16s-build/
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
Well I don't know what it entails to have to use a new build . since HTC gave Google their finished product with krt160 does Google only have to apply the changes made to krt16s without having to have HTC rebuild the whole ROM again and resubmit to Google? I don't have that kind of experience with this kind of stuff. Any expert advice would be great.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] daverup:
I bought mine as AT&T, converted immediately to GPE, s-off, and updated firmware.

The hardware is what I was after, and I prefer non-Sense UI.
[One (M7) General] dipdewdog:
I'm not sure how it works. I know the OTA from KRT16O to KRT16S was only 1.4 MB for the N7, so there's not that much that changed. Hopefully it didn't affect any HTC-specific drivers or the kernel.
[One (M7) General] DennisBold:
It takes more than 2/3GB of source to build a less than 60MB Chromium. 1.4MB may not look like a huge change, but, well, I'll leave you to think bout that.
[One (M7) General] MattDoza:
Still running GPe conversion since the release of 4.3 . No plans of reverting back to sense or anything else.
[One (M7) General] VR1:
Converted to GPE. The design language of Sense is very inconsistent. For example, in 4.3 the power icon is awful, as well as the quik toggle settings, and other menus. GPE feels much better.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Had converted to GPE but got bored (I'm a flashaholic) and went back to sort of stock H3G.... Well H3G 3.62.771.2 firmware, GPE hboot and Maximus Sense ROM lol... For some reason GPE was terrible signal and mobile data speeds with three UK. Couldn't get HSPA+ at all no matter what I tried.... Anyone know how it could be achieved or is it something that can't be done with GPE? I read somewhere it doesn't support high speeds of most UK carriers.... Also why doesn't OK Google work in the UK lol... If you chose US it does.... Google doesn't like us or something lol

Anyway so I loved the GPE and stock software. Didn't like the data speeds (which if there's a fix for I'd be chuffed) and really missed the sense camera.... Which is a big 'YEY' point for me with the one.... Didn't miss Vid Highlights as the 5.5 update has killed that anyway and Google photos highlights and auto-awesome is better IMO. I also prefer Google photos effects and such too.... Literally just the camera with GIF functionality (zoe) continuous shooting and generally very nice performance that I missed... ( if anyone has a fix for that too then I would 'LOVE' to know it. If I could have stock android with sense camera I would be a pig in **** lol)
[One (M7) General] Chrisdroid:
I converted my One to the GPE rom as soon as i got it. I just don't like the aesthetics of Sense
[One (M7) General] magero:
converted in the night today and now waiting for the Update.... omg, it takes so long....

But in sleep mode the device take to much battery.......
[One (M7) General] Pseud0logik:
Converted my AT&T One to GPE shortly after I bought it but not before first trying Cleanrom and CM10.1. Cleanrom was much better than stock but I really don't care for Sense at all. CM10.1 at the time was buggy and unstable. I've always preferred the AOSP Android design language over Sense or Touchwiz and have ran CM versions 7-10.1 on my last 3 phones. I'm completely happy with the GPe ROM on this phone and don't plan on flashing anything else unless HTC stops updating it.
[One (M7) General] LuffyPSP:
The longest I can stay with GPe and AOSP roms are one day at most. After that I am back on Sense. But I kept a nandroid of stock odexed GPe rom just for the Kit Kat update.

I ran CM and AOSP in all of my previous phones but not with this HTC One. So yeah, January is fine by me for 4.4 Sense.
[One (M7) General] :
Converted to GPE a while back because I though kitkat would be released that weekend, but google is delaying the update and I didn't very much like AOSP anyway. At this point the dev edition will have Kit kat before the GPE.
[One (M7) General] CiDhed:
I've been rocking gpe since it dropped. I love it. So clean. I've always ran CM or other aosp builds before this phone.

I'm actually going to switch my dad over to it when kk drops. He keeps hitting Zoe when trying to take pictures and has trouble finding stuff on sense. His first smart phone was a lg with pretty close to aosp gingerbread on it.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
So you chaps don't miss Sense camera then? Just out of interest do you use a camera app in replacement or happy enough with stock GPE cam?

I think KitKat camera should be pretty nice as stock but not too sure. Mainly the signal/data issue for me so if anyone knows how to get fast speeds in UK specifically with HSPA+ Three UK I'd greatly appreciate it. :)
[One (M7) General] Roadrunner100:
The GPE camera SW is decent, I can't see the difference between my Sense exposures vs GPE exposures. Sense has more camera functionality.

However

, it looks like I have the pink/purple syndrome, which is reportedly a HW issue, and in the process of back and forth e-mails to either get an RMA or repair from GooglePlayStore.
[One (M7) General] tiny4579:
That is because the gpe firmware only supports the att bands being built on the att variant of the phone. The T-Mobile network supports a couple more network bands for its network which are lacking in gpe. You can go with AOSP if you need the gpe feel and keep your data reliability but it is buggier.
[One (M7) General] josteink:
Same here, except unbranded device.

Sense isn't for me ☺
[One (M7) General] mitchst2:
Have you tried this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2540807

Works for me.

Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Hey thanks for the link. Yes have tried this and annoyingly the settings didn't stick. I even added some changed to the build.prop but they didn't make a difference either. It's weird. I'm sense I get up to 28 meg down on 3g and on GPE I was only getting at most 8 meg so it's a big difference. I'm sure there's a way round it but to be fair I'm thinking I might as well just use custom ROMs to get what I want out of the phone lol
[One (M7) General] panoulil:
I'm using an HTC One converted to GE and have been since the GE conversion was first available. I couldn't stand Sense 5, in particular Blinkfeed. I found even with a custom launcher Blinkfeed would always rear it's ugly head from time to time. Even with the ability to remove Blinkfeed with 5.5 I can't see myself going back but who knows, might try flashing for the hell of it. I really like stock android and like having the ability to truly change whatever I want without HTC crap showing up all the time.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
The camera difference for me between aosp and sense is negligible since I never used Zoe's. The send camera takes pictures just as fast . I'd say the sense camera focuses a lot faster but it also depends on the lighting and if my daughter doesn't stop moving. Even with both moving shots are about the same. In don't ever tweak the settings and just use it as a point and shoot. I think I've used the FFC a few times since I got it 6 months ago.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] bnordman:
I never liked Sense at all so I converted to GPe. The phone is running stable, all functions work flawlessly and I don't have all the bloatware of other ROMs.

now waiting for 4.4 which I already have on my Nexus 7...
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
One main reason I converted was sense didn't allow for more lock screen widgets . I give props for sense being faster than it was before. Like sense 4+. If they do something different with sense in 6 or later.

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] daverdfw:
I tried Sense for a day or 2, have been running GPe or CM10.2 ever since, not sure what people say you miss by leaving Sense. Seems to run fine for me.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
I was able to successfully update using stock recovery method. Haven't fully dived in to check out what's changed but maybe I'll get a break at work. Do we not get the same kitkat lock screen others have?

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] daverdfw:
I just updated as well to 4.4, no we do not get the Google-now enabled lock screen, thats for the nexus 5 only. I just Nova anyway which is better and looks the same.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
I'm okay with that. Its just the aesthetics I like . have we always been able to hold home button for Google now on lock screen ?

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] magero:
Is 4.4 rollout yet?
[One (M7) General] mitchst2:
Yes. At the 1% stage so you'd need to be very lucky. In still waiting.

Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
I got it straight away after converting. Not sure about it tbh, without the extra features you'd get owning a Nexus it seems barely any different to 4.3 to me. No HDR+ no GoogleHome by default. No OK Google in UK. Also why HTC doesn't add a power saver feature in when surely they could being not 'true' Google I'll never know.....

---------- Post added at 07:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 PM ----------

Maybe it'll have to be dev edition in a week or so instead....
[One (M7) General] magero:
Why my statusbarbis not transparent?
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
Are you guys running stock gpe radiol? I am using Tmobile USA network here in Oregon. Haven't changed radios. I do get LTE just fine but was wondering if any of you are running any Tmobile specific radios ? Any negative side effects?

sent from my gpe HTC one
[One (M7) General] bwhinnen:
I'm still running a converted GPe device. There is no real reason behind it other than I wanted to, and I am not missing anything by doing so. I did install the GEL alongside 4.3 and 4.4 to give me that Nexus 5 feel. I did run Nova for a while, but I like the Google Now integration with GEL better than the additional little gestures that Nova gave me.

I think it is personal preference and what you need out of the handset that drives whether you stay with an AOSP based or Sense based version (regardless of the ROM used).

So from me a +1 for GPe.
[One (M7) General] Armeniandave:
Just updated to 4.4. So far I'm really liking it over sense.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
The radio won't make a difference I don't think if you look in build prop its held at hsdpa 14 so I changed it to 24 and enabled fast dormancy as my carrier has it. Seemed to help.

Sent by homing Dragon......
[One (M7) General] mitchello:
You can get this by changing the voice language to English US if you want it.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
I know this is possible but why would I do this when I'm English, US Google doesn't understand my proper pronunciation so its pointless.

Sent by homing Dragon......
[One (M7) General] mitchello:
Can't say I've had any issues with my Australian accent when I've set it to Us English.

And why would you? Because you were lamenting the lack of "Ok Google" on UK English. It's an easy workaround some aren't aware of.
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
The OK Google feature even picks up my half-assed Swedish accent, though I try to make it sound as American as possible.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Well I've had issues with it thinking I'm saying words I'm not due to the accent issue.... I know a lot of other countries speak in American English so it's probably a good work around for them but not for me. Especially being a Southern England guy as I have a more English than most accent....
[One (M7) General] truwa:
The new dialer, GEL and "ok google" in 4.4 kitkat are the main reasons for me to switch to GPE (ARHD 6.0). I came from a very fast ARHD 40.3 rom and not going back.

Kit Kat dialer and contacts are much better than sense versions (sense dialer sucks in comparison). I have added sense ringtones and sounds to GPE.

For sense applications and xposed module, I have used the substitues below:

Gallery -> Quickpic... (gallery is better)

Music -> PlayerPro... (playerPro is better)

TV remote -> Smart Remote ... (Smart Remote is much better)

Car -> Car Home Ultra... (Car Home Ultra is much better)

Sense camera -> Stock camera... (Sense camera is much better)

FM Radio -> Spirit UL... (FM Radio is much better)

Sense 5 Toolbox -> GravityBox... (GravityBox offers more customization options)

With Bulletproof kernel, 4.4.2 based ARHD 6 GPE rom is very fast, stable and offers very good battery time. (ARHD 40.3 with the same kernel is also fast, stable and offers good battery time).

What am I missing most from Sense rom is Zoe. But the new dialer makes up for it. If camera and picture quality is essential for you than you should stay with sense, otherwise there is no reason for not switching to GPE imo.
[One (M7) General] RossLH:
Well remove me from the ranks. After the newest update failed and wiped everything on my phone (including the internal SD), I'm done with GPE. Just not worth it anymore, when Paranoid Android and CM11 are underway...at least I know those will flash properly.
[One (M7) General] zimilaci:
I onky miss the sense music player and for some reason I hear the beats effect slightly different in the gpe...
[One (M7) General] mitchello:
I've noticed the same thing, sounds a bit different.

Main thing I miss is the Sense camera. The HTC One camera is rarely "great" in normal circumstances, but on the GPE ROM it's terrible.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
That's what makes me switch back and forth is the sense camera. Although I'm ready to convert back to gpe again.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
+1 Agreed... I want to love GPE and for the most part I really do, it's just the camera that lets it down IMO... Well not even the camera so much as the features (or lack there of). I love the built in sequence shots, gifs and slow-motion video it brings.... There's nothing else out there on the market like it from what I can see. Unless anyone knows any different of course.
[One (M7) General] GoyoNeuff:
What do you mean ?
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
HTC Camera brings epic camera features you wont find with any other third party app, You can get all the features, just not with the same app.... Like Zoe, which is essentially just a GIF creator, sequence shot, Slow motion video recording, then all the added editing features the gallery brings and also ZeroEditing for the Video Highlights... All three apps go hand in hand and provide so much more than anything else you can find out there.... At least from the hunting I've done anyway... I mean I use VSCO Cam which is a wicked app but only gives great single shots, nothing more....
[One (M7) General] GoyoNeuff:
Can we just get it to a GPE plus a good Camera app?

:P
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Best option ATM is Eragon ROM, Stripped right back and offers Sense camera and such still but with AOSP goodies...
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
I went back to gpe 4.2.2 I also sideloaded the gel launcher. Not rooted either. I pilled out my dslr and will use that for important pictures. This ones good for point and click.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
It's such a good phone with either sense of GPE. Love vanilla Android, wish I owned two 'One's' so I could have both all the time lol
[One (M7) General] GoyoNeuff:
This might sound stupid so forgive me if I am committing heresy here: Is is possible to do a dual boot in our phones (or any phone for that matter), similar to Windows/Linux/OS X /Unix in computers ?

That would be a solution for you horsestatic !

Cheers.
[One (M7) General] monkeypaws:
Google modaco switch. You can dual boot gpe or sense.
[One (M7) General] gakzilla:
On my silver One, I converted it over to ARHD 4.4.2 GE. It's freaking awesome. Just got myself a blue One and plan to do the same.
[One (M7) General] mitchst2:
From the looks of it modaco switch isn't managed very well. I'd love to see someone on here attempt the same.

Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus