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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Dead Thread

Wow, I have kept this tab open in my browser for over a week and there is not a single post, question, comments, or anything. This thread really is totally dead. Time to close my browser on this and let it go. I will get email notification if there are any posts so if a newbie needs help setting up cm11, I will reply. The rest of you guys, I really will miss.

Time to close out this browser window. No sense in keeping it open any longer. Take care guys, miss all of you! :cowboy:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
Bye bye Ohmster. Hopefully just for right now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] welder73:
Flash some LP rom,then we can continue to hang out ;)

Sent from my Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] (or anyone else here)

Do you know if Cyanogenmod will stay booted without a SIM card installed in the phone? I know stock VZW will actually power the phone off if it does not detect a SIM card installed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=3315635]neoramasay[/MENTION], I really don't know because this is not something I ever had to attempt. I imagine it would install and work, at least the rom and everything that goes with it. Of course the dialer and phone will not work, but I think the rom will. It does not hurt anything to try it out and see, you risk nothing if you make a safe strap backup and then try to install it without sim card. Even if it fails, you would not risk much since you have a working backup that you can restore. If you do this, be a good fellow and let us know if it works so we can answer this question with certainty if it comes up again.

Final Answer: I don't know for certain but it seems plausible that it can and will install and work. You have little to lose so I would give it a try. Go for it! :D

EDIT:

Oh hey, I didn't quite get the full idea of what your question was, [MENTION=3315635]neoramasay[/MENTION]. You are asking will a Razr phone boot and operate without a SIM card installed. I am pretty certain that it will run but you are asking so you must really need the information. I can test that for you right now. I will power down my Razr XT912, remove the SIM Card, then turn it on and see what happens, is that good for you? Besides, I have not rebooted in many, many weeks so it is good to clean out the memory with a reboot from time to time. Let's try it my friend!

Okay, I am powered down now. SIM card removed, now, let's power it up and see what happens...

...red M comes up. Safe Strap boot screen appears. Hmmm, phone is totally dark, oh, here is my boot logo animation! So far, so good. Seems to be taking a long time. Oh, desktop is up, "Searching for Service" displayed instead of "Verizon Wireless". Yes, full desktop, signal icon totally blank. Dialer shows "Mobile network not available". Google search not working. What about GPS? First trying only the satellite tester, not real maps since no network data is available. GPS does not work at all, without network contact, no GPS signal available, showing zero satellites present. Cancelling GPS testing. Simple games and apps that do not require network such as Solitaire is working. The rom works fine without a SIM card. The only consequence of not having a SIM card present is that the phone cannot "be a phone" anymore, nor can it utilize any apps that require network contact.

So the answer to your question, "Will Cyanogenmod will stay booted without a SIM card installed in the phone?", is YES. The CyanogenMod rom works quite well without a SIM card in the phone. Does this help you answer your question my friend? :D

Ack! I put the SIM card back upside down so I have nothing at all and removing it is difficult because it will not "pop back out" when inserted incorrectly. I was able to pop it out with the tip of a knife blade and inserted it with the gold contacts up this time and rebooted. Phone totally restored. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sd_shadow:
I don't have a XT912, but I have used my XT907, XT894, and XT908 on WiFi no sim, and they have never powered off.

Stock, CM11, Cm12 and other roms
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
I'm still watching this thread and waiting for first snapshot build of CM12.1 for testing. I'm here and alive... :cool:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Very comforting news, Mr. Chen. Very comforting. Thank you!

EDIT:

I think that waiting for a 12.1 snapshot is a pretty good idea. Although I didn't particularly like the snapshots of cm11, it does earmark a point of some stability. That might be a good time to begin to play more with LP and take it more seriously. Mr. Chen, you have a very level headed point of view on the matter. Admirable. Thanks buddy! :cool:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]

Yes, indeed that does answer the question I was asking! That means I can pull the SIM on my RAZR and play with other uses for it once I get it running smoothly. Awesome! Also means I'll still be around here then. I'm hoping if I can get it running smoothly enough, I'll make it a gaming device for my son (who's 4 now), so he's not always asking to "play Birds on [my] phone!"

In terms of Windows 10 - I have signed up to get my update (I will also be looking up the directions for making install media with an ISO download). I have done some initial research on Windows 10, and there are some things that concern me (mainly the social-WiFi-share that it has) that I will be disabling until further research on it is done. I have not used WMC, so the removal of that doesn't really hinder my normal usage. My concern is gaming, which DX12 seems to be a massive improvement over DX11 on Win7 (some initial benchmarks were... impressive in how much faster and efficient DX12 is). Compared to Win 8/8.1 the "Metro UI" elements have been toned WAY down and are very customizable (this would be the "tiles in the start menu") - you can have as much or as little as you want showing there as tiles, it seems. Once I actually get my official notice my install is ready, I will report back with post-install impressions on things.

Edit:

Know this: Where there is a will, there will be a way. It may involve lots of hoops, but there will always be a way. MS would be foolish to completely abandon the way PCs have been run for years now, or they'll loose business markets where normal PC using isn't going to change for a lot longer than home use.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] welder73:
About Windows 10 dual boot,you don't have to do anything!

I made a new partition just to try it and now every time when I restart my laptop I have the option to choose which system I want to use ;)

[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION],check your PM :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Great Mileage on the 6/26 Snapshot

I tell you what, the mileage and performance on this 06/29 snapshot is stellar. Almost 6 weeks later, this rom is purring right along. I did get a couple of tiny quirks today, the dialer home screen should display favorites and last call. Today, it didn't, just a white screen with history and dial pad available. Strange. My CPU Frequency in status bar did not update either. I did experience quite a few Google updates and an Xposed module update so I rebooted. The phone came back quite fine, although I did have to reboot it twice to get the Xposed module working properly again. I use GravityBox to color the date and time in status bar and when I reboot, I get the day of week repeated up to 3 times and need to use the "Restart UI" button in ExThemer module to reset this. Why this happens, I think that the Xposed module for Gravity box is doing a late update on the status bar items and it repeats before settling down. This is hardly an issue because a tap on Restart UI will clean this right up until you reboot again.

But nothing was dysfunctional, phone always works, and certainly drives home the point that cm11 really is finished. This thread has kind of stalled, nothing to discuss since the rom is finished, so for any new folks looking to install, get your final CM11 roms at CM Downloads for snapshots.

Spyder XT912 Here:

http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=spyder&type=snapshot

UMTS_Spyder XT912 Here:

http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=umts_spyder&type=snapshot

This CM11 ride was really nice, took a little over a year and the fruit of that effort made the Razr worth keeping. Pac-Rom, AOKP, and Liquid Smooth are also reported to work quite well. I guess that about wraps it up. :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xperia-alvis:
Flashing to stock ICS?

The last CM11 snapshot works pretty well on my brother's XT910.

But it's a bit laggy recently, and I think that flashing it to the stock slot might help.

However... I'm from Taiwan, and the last OTA is ICS 4.0.4.

I've read the online guide made by [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] , and the first step is "Flashing stock JB ROM".

Is it necessary to do?:confused:

P.S. I'm on safestrap 3.65 now.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=5163791]xperia-alvis[/MENTION] no, you do not have to flash JB on stock again. That step is only to make sure you have a rooted rom on stock. Step 2 is to install the latest Safe Strap. Since you have the rooted rom, you might want to update Safe Strap. At the top of the guide is a link for it. You might not even need the latest Safe Strap but now is as good a time as any to update it. If you do this you have to download the SS 3.75 apk, boot to stock, use the Safe Stap app to remove the current recovery environment, uninstall the SS app, reinstall the new SS app, activate recovery again, and you now have your Safe Strap updated. Next you have your last chance to make any backups before the factory reset. From here, Jump to step 3 and continue. Skip the JB install as you are way past that point. Hope this helps. Ask if you got questions. :good:

NOTE: Don't overlook anything such as having the cm11 final snapshot and gapps available to install after factory reset. You can place them on your extsdcard and be able to get at them from safe strap.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xperia-alvis:
Thank you for the kind reply! Now CM11 is running as the stock ROM.:victory:

It's really awesome to have people like you here to make this community better.:good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Wow that's good news. I really should go back and clarify the instructions when I get a chance, it was a lot of writing and one never knows how it will come out until people really start using it. Thanks for the kind words, :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Crimson88:
Hey guys I have experienced something weird as far as I can remember using CM. I use gStrings to tune my guitar but there are some times that it just doesn't register any sound; a similar thing happens when using WhatsApp calls, I can hear the person but they can't hear me. A soft reboot fixes the issue for a while but I do not know what causes it. Has this happened to anyone? My phone is a RAZR XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Ah, there was a sound bug in cm11, the source code for the audio driver is proprietary and the developer had to make do with an audio wrapper to make the old binary code work. At that time, we would get sound dropouts that ended up being triggered by "Okay Google". Turning that off in /Settings/ Language & Input/Google Voice Typing/Settings/Ok Google Detection/ put a stop to that. I am not 100% sure this is the same thing since you appear to be losing your microphone. Another member had issues with his mic dropping out, with a very strong light, magnifying glass, and small pin, he was able to clean a rather large clump of packed dirt out of his mic hole in the very front, bottom of the phone face. These two items are worth checking. Also check your microphone with your app tray/Sound Recorder to make sure it really is accepting audio. Try this before it happens and then after to see if there is any difference and come back with your results. :silly:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Crimson88:
Thanks for the reply man, I'm sure it is not a hardware issue because as I said, after soft rebooting the mic works again. Funny thing now that you mentioned it; the recording app records only silence BUT if I make a call it works as intended. By the way, I didn't find the Google Voice settings, only thing under Language & input is Speech/Text-to-speech/Pico TTS
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Crimson88:
Thanks for your time [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]. Here are my current specs:

Model number

XT910

Cyanogen version

11-20150405-UNOFFICIAL-umts_spyder

I do have debloated stock Jellybean ROM installed in the stock slot and my CM ROM is installed in slot 2 I think. The problem doesn't exist in the stock ROM, that's why I know it's related to CM and similar ROMs (Same issue with LiquidSmooth). It's kind of a weird bug because it's persistent, it doesn't matter if I do a dirty or clean install, I find it eventually. I was curious if anyone else was experiencing it.

I kinda want to give PAC-ROM a try since I read good things about it in this thread, maybe that will fix it! lol
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=5267893]Crimson88[/MENTION],

Oh I see. I don't have an XT910 but we do have Welder73 and Mr. Chen who do have these phones and are very good helpers. But they can help only if they are familiar with the issue. I have never heard of it and tried to think of what I would do. The point is you *do* have at least one or more other roms to run and try your guitar app and voice recorder. If your mic works with these other roms, then the phone is okay. What is messing up cm11? I don't know, never saw it before. But you got the word out there, let's see if anyone else had the issue or not. Good luck my friend. :)

Interesting that you see this same bug in Liquid Smooth. That tells us it must be a rom or kernel related issue. Not something you could fix if that were the case. I don't have an answer but would love to know what it is my friend. :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
Hi, I've never encountered such issue before. Sometimes speaker didn't work but change settings to "silence" and back can fix it. Did you tried latest snapshot of XT910? You can find link from CM's download page.

cm-11-20150626-SNAPSHOT-XNG3CAO1L9-umts_spyder.zip
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
How nice to see you Mr. Chen! Thank you so much for showing up. I hoped that you or Welder could shed some light on this umts spider device. Oh there is a nice download link to the proper file need by Crimson88. Very nice Mr. Chen. Very nice. :D

[MENTION=5267893]Crimson88[/MENTION], Mr. Chen has the same phone that you do and is not having these problems with this build. It would be a good idea to try it if you haven't already.

Well there you go, [MENTION=5267893]Crimson88[/MENTION]. This is the latest and best rom for your phone, give it a shot unless you already are. Thank you Mr. Chen. :cowboy:

Off Topic: We just installed Windows 10 from the 10240 ISO file to my nephew's laptop. Wow, now *this* is really nice! Better than Windows 8, very fast, and it does have the built in voice commander, Cortana. The voice commander is just like OK Google but this one is built into the OS and works a LOT better. I am clearing out room on my hard drives to install it myself. Really nice, guys, especially when you do not have to give up your current system just to try and use it. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
Off Topic: [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION], when you upgraded to Windows 10, did you download the Insider 10240 .ISO, or did you use the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool to create a installation media? Or, did you use the tool to upgrade? I have one tip. You can not clean install Windows 10 unless you first do an in place upgrade. You must do an in place upgrade either in the GWX.exe (Get Windows 10 App in your taskbar) or through the upgrade option in the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool. The reason I stress this, is because if you clean install right away, you will not be activated by Microsoft. You must then downgrade to either Windows 8.1 or 7, and then do an in place upgrade to get you Windows 10 product key linked to your hardware. After you do an in place upgrade, you can then clean install. Just make sure to hit all the "skip" buttons when the setup process asks for your product key.

Sorry for the long off topic post. I just want all XDA members to have a smooth Windows 10 upgrade process.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
What say [MENTION=5711114]Bobcus Leper[/MENTION]!

Ah, we used the 10240 iso file to make an install flash drive with Rufus 2.2. Since Windows 10 is free for an entire year upon release date, activation is not such a big deal. There is a free toolkit you can download to take care of that issue, very easy, quickly, and once done, it is done. I actually tried to use the published activation keys and instructions, but MS must have blocked them off, OR, their key server is overloaded. So, the OS is free anyway, I got my reservation for the free OS and used my own method to get it online. Either way you get the exact same results, i.e.: installed Windows 10 for free, but it was a LOT less hassle this way. ;)

MS is not making money on the sale of Windows 10. The "give it away for free" deal is a business plan to get *everyone* to install it, then they make their money on the back end with ads, pay for this, and pay for that. Any good rooter and rommer is used to spam, ads, and bloat, so we *know* exactly how to deal with stuff like that. :D

But, good looking out, Bobcus. You did the right thing! :good:

Update:

There are issues with Windows 10, the OS is so new that most of the software we have will not run on it, and some hardware cannot work due to no drivers available for it. This is new, "too new" to switch over seamlessly, it seems.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
Hi all, looks like the "stagefright" fix is coming into AOSP/CM source tree. Could anyone can help to confirm or build it for our XT910/XT912? Or CM will do? :fingers-crossed:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
What can you tell us about this stage fright Mr. Chen? Symptoms, what does it affect? How do you know if you have it? Links or URLs would be good. Thank you, Mr. Chen. :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
Stagefright has already been fixed in CM12.1 nightlies. But you probably are talking about CM11. ;)

Here is a link with detailed information about the Stagefright exploit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bigbenaugust:
I asked about this a page or two ago and was told that CM11 was finished/done/over on the XT912 and there would not be any more releases.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bigbenaugust:
Also, sorry , I finally caught up with the thread and might actually go give Textra a try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
There are no more builds scheduled or in the works. Mr. Chen was only asking if anyone heard of a stagefright bug fix for the Razr. And SFAIK, the answer is still "No".
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
AFAIK, according to post#996 in this thread and followed posts, looks like stagefright fix has been pushed into CM11's source tree or can be easily patched. Maybe [MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION] can help to confirmed it and maybe another unofficial build based on latest snapshot? Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=3313632]ChungHung.Chen[/MENTION] Michael hangs out in the Droid 4 thread as that is the phone he has. It might be a really good idea to post this question over in his thread and then relay the information back here if you get a reply. I think this is his thread, but could be mistaken. [MENTION=2662249]sShadowSs[/MENTION] would probably know. Shadow, is this the thread where you find [MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION] usually hanging out? Thanks. :good:

[ROM][4.4.4][AOSP][{Un,}Official] CM11.0 (KitKat) by stargo
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
Hi all, according to CM's blog @ 2015/08/13, new build which including stagefright fix will be released upon CM11 and above. Could anyone help to confirm if our spyder/umts_spyder will get this build or not?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Wow! Really doesn't seem like anyone knows. Or they're just keeping quiet like everyone else [emoji39] .

Sent from my Motorola RAZR Maxx (XT910)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
It's now official. Android 6.0 Marshmallow is now here! Check it out!

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2015/08/m-developer-preview-3-final-sdk.html
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
I can see it now.... the new easter egg is an ASCII thrown marshmallow.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
So, I was reading through the TWRP changelog here: https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html and saw an interesting entry in the newest version of a "resize2fs" command - since SafeStrap is based off of TWRP, my wonder would be if this command could be leveraged in SafeStrap to change/overwrite the "unused" partitions on a Razr, thus giving access to more of the total space in the Razrs? Just a thought.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
That sure sounds good [MENTION=3315635]neoramasay[/MENTION] but I doubt we will get to see it. We use Safe Strap, written by Hashcode, but he already gave up on Safe Strap and, is to the best of my knowledge, not providing updates anymore. Safe Strap uses TWRP, but until someone integrates the latest release into Safe Strap, we are SOL, I'm afraid. I did look at the download page for the new improved TWRP referenced in your post and there is no download for Motorola Droid phones. So sad. :(

Michael did upgrade Safe Strap for us once to make it usable on Android L, but unless he does it again, not looking good my friend.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
[MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION], maybe you could look into this? You are the best dev for OMAP-4 after all!:thumbup::D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
FYI: I do use TWRP on my Samsung tablet and TWRP does not have "rom slots", just the current rom. Totally not acceptable for a Razr were we get slots in Safe Strap to install more than one rom. :p

Once you get used to those rom slots, they are hard to give up. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sd_shadow:
i dont think this would work with the Motorola's locked bootloader.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Precisely. That is why Hashcode made Safe Strap for phones like ours. At least, so far as I have heard, Shadow. He did a good job, wish he didn't like "totally retire". Too bad, really. :(

Good call Shadow, I forgot that point. :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xperia-alvis:
Offline charging?

Yesterday, I tried to charge my phone after turning it off.

The battery icon wasn't centered. Strange.

Then after a while, I booted it up.

It took much longer to boot, like when you just flashed a ROM.

Then the tragedy came. My phone is totally reset. The whole /data is wiped.

I've tried safestrap 3.75 and 3.65, but both of them have this issue.

Maybe it's because that I install CM11 on stock slot? Is it a known issue? Thanks!:highfive:

P.S. I used to keep the stock slot stock, and used other slots.

I remember that offline charging was working at that time.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
TWRP is not SafeStrap. TWRP is a regular old recovery just like CWM, or the stock recovery that comes on all Android devices. Custom recoveries allow zip verification bypassing, allowing the user to flash whatever zip he, she, or it wants. Custom recoveries usually have nice features that the stock recovery doesn't have. SafeStrap is built upon the TWRP recovery. SafeStrap allows phones with locked bootloaders to hijack the boot process, allowing certain phones to boot an AOSP custom kernel [KLTEVZW (the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5) for example is a phone that has SafeStrap recovery, but can only boot stock, Samsung kernels, it just doesn't have the dev community like the OMAP-4 devices do], or to boot into a virtual " ROM slot" (note that the virtual slots take up the same amount of space as the size you give them within SafeStrap). So, theoretically, it would be possible to update the SafeStrap recovery to be built on top of the latest version of TWRP. It would probably take loads of time though. In a dying RAZR user base, even though it would be awesome to have the latest version of TWRP for SafeStrap, it probably would not be worth the effort for such a small user base.