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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Dumped CM11 02/02 - CM12 next Update

The 02/02 CM11 rom appears to be the last one in the line. It is a BAD ROM. Use the 01/26 CM11 ROM as your Final and Reliable CM11 Daily Driver ROM.

Well, today was a busy day. I have like 4 different people calling at once for PC repair, scanner, websites, and laptop. I cannot miss a single call! I need maps, GPS, Navigation, and calls. Music would be nice.

And what happens? CM11, Build 02/02 dies on me. I try to use streaming music and it sputters like crazy. No time for this, got to maps. Self rebooting phone! Now Navigation and tap and wait, black screen. I give up and restore CM11 02/26. A good, trusty, 100% reliable rom.

I got a LOT of red flags installing build 02/02 and today, it was FAR from a speedy, reliable device. I didn't have time to back it up and what for? It stinks! So I am back to running 02/02.

The changelog page is wiped out, "Device may have been transitioned to CM12 nightlies.". No more CM11 builds it looks like. Download Page shows next download is CM12 02/02. ...what happened to the M13 Snapshot? Unlucky #13 perhaps?

I can't be sure but it looks like we have hit the end of the CM11 road. Pick your best running rom and be done with it. For me, it is the 01/26 Nightly. It's a good one, it's a keeper, and it looks like, it is the end of the line. For me that's okay, 01/26 is the best CM11 rom I have ever run and I cannot find anything broken or bad about it.

End Testing CM11 02/02 Prematurely.

Method: OTA FAILED to reboot. Rebooted manually and update script took over. Updating Apps count dead wrong.

Apps Tested: Not a single app seemed to run properly and nothing at all ran smoothly without a hitch.

Testing Period: Not even one day.

Results: NEGATIVE - Bad Rom!

Summary: LOTS of red flags duing the update. The cmupdater failed to reboot to update. Manual reboot initiated the update script. Updating Apps count totally inaccurate. Next day Maps caused a self-reboot. Streaming Music stuttering. Extreme lag on some apps. This rom is anything BUT stable and reliable. I am staying on 01/26.

Suggestion: If this really is the end of the line for CM11, Use the 01/26 release as your Daily Driver and 100% reliable and FINAL CM11 rom! cm-11-20150126-NIGHTLY-spyder.zip Grab it quick! These servers do not retain older builds for very long!

Future: Uncertain. Only update available is CM12 and it is not compatible with CM11. It is also Experimental Alpha software. I will move 01/26 to stock and free up Safe Strap slot 1 and use it to test CM12. But I am in no hurry. After a day like today where I nearly missed appointments and did miss a phone call over a bad rom build 02/02, I will keep what I have for a while and make it stock if this is the end of the line for CM11. It was a fun ride and ALL OF YOU are such NICE People! :D

I am not looking forward to moving to the CM12 thread as my last experience there was less than hospitable and I do not look forward to joining that thread. :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
CyanogenMod hasn't given up on CM11 M13, it might just take a little longer for the CM Team to get a 100% stable CM11 "M13" on all compatible devices, due to the fact that they are busy with CM12.

Oh, and about Oggie7797, don't worry about him, he I are buds here on XDA. Also, your posts are very useful to review from time to time to check which CM11 builds are good or bad. Thanks for all your dedication to the XDA threads.:)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
Good value data. Thanks, pal.

So, as in other threads devs are calling KitKat's time of death and moving on to Lollipop CM. I'm afraid our good old RAZRs could be overwhelmed by the new Android, but it's just a feeling. Noted the last "Ohmster's choice" build, and will stick to that. My wife's RAZR is running 0101 now. Going OK, just Whatsapp not doing its notifications until she launches the app. But if I have to downgrade I know where to go.

Did any of you tested CM12 on the RAZR?

Mnldr @ D855AR
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
it seems that no more cm11 updates will come.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Yeah, there probably will be a final snapshot for cm11. There has to be *some* kind of semi-grand exit for cm11. It is a very, very good rom.

Oh, I got over my ire at the CM12 thread pretty fast. There are a lot of nice members there who stood up against the vocal few, with their pitchforks, torches, and buckets of hot tar. There are a few who think they *own* the thread and because they use phones on the board, want to make it into a "twitter based forum". 165 character limit. Not going to happen. Some of us, many of us, sit at the help desk every day, answer the same questions over and over. Writeup procedures, instructions, provide links, and write guides. I would like to see one of those "He Man Women Haters Club" guys even *try* to write a useful utility or guide of any kind. The thread is not private and never will be. I made it a point NOT to single out [MENTION=5660618]Oggie7797[/MENTION] and grant him a pass. He was pretty nice, actually.

Of course, reading and writing long posts is too tedious for a phone. A tiny screen with a Saltine Cracker sized virtual keyboard to peck at. Cannot easily copy and paste URLs on a phone so it is not expected from Tapatalk users because it makes sense. But to attack helpful members that do take the time is just shameful.

You are alright, Bob. The majority of the thread are really decent, helpful people. And I am really glad they stood up for what is right. That goes to show that not even a very motivated few can hijack a thread at XDA for their own private club. It just doesn't work. I will be seeing you there in a few weeks or so. Just want to let cm11 play out because that will be my stock, daily driver. Then I can have fun with CM12 at home, when I am not working and 100% dependent on my phone.

Thanks for the heads up and the support, man. ;) :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
I've upgrade to 20150202 from 20150126 last night. Before upgrade I've tested what [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] said about the reboot problem. There must be something wrong about "reboot to recovery" option in 0126 version (normal "reboot" works). This bug about "reboot to recovery" may be the root cause and I have to reset APM+(xposed) in 0202 version to get it work again. Now "reboot to recovery" is normal in my XT910 w/ 0202 version.

A very quick review of 20150202 version, there are some strange behavior but can be corrected. Apps count is wrong during first boot optimization but will be right if you wipe cache/dalvik-cache and reboot again. Tested HDMI and output is normal without errors. Other apps still need to be tested in next few days. I'm not a heavy user so may not tested all apps. If any test object please let me know, I'll see what I can do. Thanks.

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Bug of "reboot to recovery" is in 0126 version and be fixed in 0202. Try to uninstall APM+ -> reboot -> reinstall APM+ -> reboot and active in xposed -> reboot again and set APM+ menu for reboot. APM+ works well in my XT910 with 0202 version. Does "reboot to recovery" is still failed in your XT912 and 0202 version?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
Flashed cm12 0202.

According to me working well as compare to previous cm12 roms.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Hmmm, yeah I wish that my APM Reboot to Recovery would work, but I am not using APM+, I am using APM because I like the pretty colors you get in the reboot options. I don't think that the plain APM is still available to install. Only have it in Titanium Backup.

I had no choice but to restore my 01//26 backup, Mr. Chen. Today was a very unusual day, I had 3 clients calling for computer work and that is very rare. I could not chance losing a call, client, being late, or not finding the location w/out Maps and Navigation. I had not backed up 02/02 so I lost it.

I really get "the Heebie-jeebies" when the App Count is way off like this and a reboot is necessary to fix. Of course I did do the reboot and wipe dalvik and cache and this "fixed it", But next day w/streaming music stuttering, it meant another reboot was necessary. This is clearly off to a bad start and I could not risk losing anything today, for me a restore was worth hundreds of dollars, I could not risk "playing around with cm11" on a day like this and just had to restore backup while fixing a home network problem.

Will I try it again? I don't know, what is the benefit of this update? None that I can see or tell, and a lot to risk if it does not prove to be "equal or better than the rom it replaces". So far, it is not meeting that criteria. I am going to wait and see how you make out before I try this again. If you find annoyances, bugs, or issues, then I know for sure not to bother with it. Thank you Mr. Chen.

On a humorous note, look at my screenshot and tell me what is wrong with this picture? *HINT* - Just how badly do you think I will mess up my phone if I dare install the very top update in CyanogenMod Updates? :p

Nice job [MENTION=3313632]ChungHung.Chen[/MENTION]! :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
Cm12 0202 is getting several auto reboots.

:(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=6293373]Haidersaleem[/MENTION] you understand we do cm11 in here, right? This is the Official CM11 thread and that is the only kind of build you can update to, if you have cm11 installed. I was joking when I showed the screenshot with the next update for cm11 as "cm-12-20150202-NIGHTLY". You did not "update" to that if you are running CM11, did you?

Or, do you really have cm12 installed and are just telling us what it is like? :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
I'm running both.

Cm11 on stock slot and cm12 on slot-1.

Cm11 is way much smoother.

Sorry for disturbance. [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]

:) ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sd_shadow:
cm11 has had over a year development cm12 is very new

cm12 should be installed with safestrap 3.75, on a new slot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
No disturbance at all my friend. I wasn't sure what you were running. I really thought you installed the cm12 update over cm11 and *that* would be a disaster!

Well, cm11 should be smoother. It is a finished product and took over a year to develop and refine as [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] pointed out. This is about it for cm11. Maybe another snapshot, hard to tell since it is gone from the changelog and download page. What I like about cm11, beside being a terrific rom, is that it is finished, everything works, you can use it every day, and never expect something to go wrong or not work. Right now I run cm11 01/26, the 02/02 build of cm11 was too buggy and I got caught on a very busy workday with phone issues. I could not have that and restored my 01/26 dependable backup.

Having something fail or crash when you are at home, playing or experimenting, is an annoyance. But if you are out, driving to appointments, working and taking calls, using GPS, and this stuff fails, you lose work, you lose money, you miss important appointments and phone calls. That is why I do not run cm12 yet. I must have something 100% dependable at all times and stock Jellybean is so old that I don't really like it anymore. Even though I did use methods in the Guide to tune it up pretty good. For Jellybean, mine really works pretty good, but who wants Jellybean anymore? :p

Once I pick my final/FINAL version of cm11, I will take out stock Jellybean and put cm11 on it. Then I can use slot 1 to play with cm12 and I am dying to see all of these neat new tricks and features. But when I go out during the day or after I am done "playing", I boot right back to stock cm11 so that I know the phone and everything on it *always* works. ;)

It sounds like you have the best of both worlds going on, [MENTION=6293373]Haidersaleem[/MENTION]. Good job buddy! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dwh2o13:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION].. updated to 1-26 nightly. Thanks so much for your spot on review once again man. This build is lightning fast.

One question: as I have read and experienced, "reboot into recovery" is a no go. After reading I'm not sure... Is there a fix for this on the xt912?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] neoramasay:
I'm sure that if CM does indeed drop an CM11 M13 Build this would be corrected - otherwise a prior nightly with everything (including this) working would become a hot commodity around here!

I'm hesitant to put in 01/26 now cause of this - i'm lazy and like my auto-reboot to recovery so I don't have to think about it when it's booting up.. :p I was gonna put 1/26 in on stock but I think i'll hold out to see how this pans out before I do that.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dwh2o13:
Yeah, I have to say I've gotten really comfortable with this feature myself and would most definitely miss it in an otherwise seemingly great build
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
You know, that is a feature I really miss. I use the Xposed APM+ Module (Advanced Power Menu) to give me the reboot into recovery option and it always worked great! But now it is broken and I mentioned it to Mr. Chen. [MENTION=3313632]ChungHung.Chen[/MENTION] discovered a way to get it working again in his post #7305. He had to reset it (Wipe data I think) but he did restore it. I have the older APM without the plus and like the colored icons better. I did not reset mine but it can be made to work again. Go read his post and maybe he can give us a bit more detail.

I just got my replacement 64GB SDCard back and am not fixing up the phone nice again, so fixing the Reboot to Recovery is probably what I will do next. Give it a try, that module will work if you reset it. Read Mr. Chen's comments above and below my gray comment box in his post to learn how to fix it. ;)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
yupe,i'm enjoying both roms.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] peanek:
Hello,

I am having some issues after flashing CM11 on new slot on SafeStra 3.75 . My network does not recognize my sim card, it is not active. On stock rom it works. Is there any way to change this ?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sd_shadow:
verify md5?

reinstall
[Motorola Droid RAZR] peanek:
Yes, checked 2 different CM11 from http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=spyder&type=nightly and hothing has changed, there is no network coverage at all..

I have Baseband version - CDMA_U_04_10_00R is this could be reaseon ? Or is it ok ?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
If you have a XT912, It looks like you need a replacement phone because there isn't any LTE xxxxxxx after CDMA_U_04_10_00R. I believe this happened to [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION].
[Motorola Droid RAZR] peanek:
Goshhhhh... I am so stupid guys...

I tried to install SPYDER CM11 on XT910, that is why it lags and there was no network coverage :D :D

Sorry, I did not know I was dowloading wrong ROM - just UMTS_SPYDER needed :)

Network works fine, and phone works fast on CM11 - but network coverage is weaker that on other phones - on HSDPA and WIFI. ( for example on my DEFY and NOKIA 1320 work way way better) Is this normal on XT910 ?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sd_shadow:
at least you figured it out
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Krauzaa:
Guys, as we know nightly from 26.01 is fastest and most reliable. But i have some problems with battery when wifi is on. There is any nightly build good as 26.01 nightly but with better battery life?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
Not at all.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Krauzaa:
Sooo, which is better?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
Its happened to me too :laugh: tonight installed spyder 26/01 nightly on my xt910 (didn't noticed the file name hehe, it was almost midnight)

Then i remembered your post :fingers-crossed:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
According to me both same
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Krauzaa:
I think you don't understand me :p I asked which build had better battery life and same speed like 26.01 nightly.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
I think u didn't understand.

I was saying that both the 0126 and 0202 updates are same in performance and battery life.

But now perfect answer: u should try 0202 build. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Gus194:
Does anyone have a mirror to the 01/26 build? I get an error when I try to download it from the CyanogenMod site.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
Test report of CM11-nightly-20150202-umts_spyder

<< Basic Info >>

XT910 (umts_spyder) / CM11-20150202 / PA-GApps Micro 20150125 / From CM11-150126->150202 by CyanDelta

Note: PA-GApps was flashed manually.

<< Report >>

Tested Period : 3 days

Tested Item : Phone call / Bluetooth / SMS / Camera / Mobile data / WiFi / GPS / HDMI / MX Player / YouTube / Light Games(Paper Toss) / Stream Video / etc.

Tested Result : Good, same performance with 01/26 version. Test for Bluetooth connection with a GARMIN nuvi car navigator. Works well and address book / call history synced. Because of [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]'s review there are some issues during the upgrade process, but I only encountered "apps count mismatch" and corrected by manually wipe cache/dalvik-cache and reboot again. "Reboot to recovery" option from APM+(xposed) can't work in 01/26 and has been fixed in 02/02 version. You may need to uninstall / reinstall APM+ to make it work again after you upgrade 02/02 version. No self-reboot, HDMI works, streaming video by Viral Popup in data (360P) and WiFi network (720P) , all tests pass. Because of our XT910/XT912 has been merged into CM12 official nightly builds, no more CM11-nightly will be available unless M13 is out. In my opinion, all nighty builds in Jan. 2015 for umts_spyder(XT910) are all good, only 01/26 has "reboot to recovery" bug in changelog. I will stay in 2015/02/02-nightly for a while and may start next test when first CM12 M-build is out. I will keep watching the thread and if any help needed I'll see what I can do. Thanks.

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Which device do you have? Spyder(XT912) or umts_spyder(XT910)? I have umts_spyder-0126 but I can't upload it until tonight.

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Do you use nightly-20150126, right? There is a bug about "reboot to recovery" in this version and should have been fixed in 20150202 version. But you may need to uninstall / reinstall APM+(xposed) to make it works again. "Reboot to recovery" is back to normal now in my XT910 with 20150202 nightly.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Gus194:
[MENTION=3313632]ChungHung.Chen[/MENTION] The umts_spyder version, it would be great if you could upload it :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dwh2o13:
I'll have to give 20150202 a spin. Thank Mr Chen
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
Hi all.

After upgrading my XT910 to 0126 Whatsapp stopped receiving push messages, only working when launched. I've read it may be a gapps problem at the push service so I should try reinstalling gapps and doing a cache wipe. I already erased Whatsapp and reinstalled it again to no avail.

Just wondering if anyone had a similar problem.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
Nope, all fine here even when hibernated with greenify.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ChungHung.Chen:
Deleted, sorry for wrong quote... XD

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Hi, here they are (@Mega space):

cm-11-20150126-NIGHTLY-umts_spyder.zip

cm-11-20150126-NIGHTLY-umts_spyder.zip.md5

cm-11-20150202-NIGHTLY-umts_spyder.zip

cm-11-20150202-NIGHTLY-umts_spyder.zip.md5
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Gus194:
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
I found something weird after installing cm11 to stock slot of my umts_spyer (doesn't matter what build i use from January ) :

When the phone is turned on and i connect it to the charger, if you press power button one time it should show you the percentage of charging - in my case i need to hold the power button 10-15 seconds to make this action. (even status icon of charging is not centered its closer to right side of the screen)

Next, you know that from this screen you can press and hold the power button to turn it on while charging, but in my case the phone even not recognizing my action he just switching the screen of like if leave it alone.

Even without charging its taking 10-15 second to hold the button to turn it on.

Using safestrap 3.7x and the new one 3.75 same thing. When stock jb was there, all was fine. :rolleyes:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
Use safestrap 3.75 and flash 0126 build or 0202.

Nightly spyder.

U have xt910 or xt912?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
i have xt910 and using ss 3.75 (umts_spyder i wrote it in the begining :rolleyes:) and tried 0126 build and earlier but its all the same.

same problem
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Haidersaleem:
u did dirty flash or clean flash?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
Every time clean.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtiger1138:
I have my new sd card, and have been planning on updating CM11 for the first time. I know I need to make sure the app count is the same when I do this, but where does it tell me how many apps I have in the first place? I've searched around a bit on the phone, but haven't found it yet.

Thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ducadim:
Wipe cache and dalvik cache in recovery in now working CM11 then reboot - and you'll see how much apps updating

from XT910 or XT925
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=5765486]Ducadim[/MENTION] is right, [MENTION=6309629]dtiger1138[/MENTION]. Android or cm11 does not really give you an app count. You will see this whenever you update or if you go to Safe Strap and wipe Dalvik, then when you reboot, you get a screen that says "Android is Updating Apps 12 out of 212". You will see this every time you update or wipe dalvik cache and will get an idea of how many apps you have. Mine is about 212 So if I see that number when rebooting, I am confident that the app count is correct. When a rom update gets this wrong, it is

very wrong

. Now it might say "Android is Updating Apps 12 out of 103" and you know from experience that you have *way* more apps than that.

A bad app count doesn't necessarily mean that the rom is bad, but it is a red flag. After booting to a bad app count and letting the phone settle for a couple of minutes, reboot, wipe cache and dalvik in Safe Strrap/Wipe/Advanced and you will see the updating screen again, if it is correct this time, the rom may be okay. But because of this red flag, you really have to keep an eye on this rom for a while.

If the next day, the rom is lagging, streaming music is stuttering, or apps take to long to launch, reboot the phone and this will often restore it and make it work good again. However, if you have to reboot the phone more than once a day or every day, the rom is no good, go back to something that works. You should not have to reboot the phone or wipe cache and dalvik constantly to make the rom work.

I had these issues when testing 02/02 in cm11 and because I had a busy workday, I could not afford to miss calls, have lag, Maps and GPS not working or taking forever to load, so I dumped it after one day. Normally I would have tested it for a couple of days, but that day, I did not have that luxury. Mr. Chen did do a thorough test of 02/02 for umts_spyder (XT910" and he found that after rebooting the phone a few times, it seemed to work well and he gave it a good review.

[MENTION=3313632]ChungHung.Chen[/MENTION] also noted that for those using the APM+ (Advanced Power Menu) Xposed Module, the "Reboot to recovery" option does not work anymore. But he did manage to restore it in 02/02 by clearing data, uninstalling, rebooting, activating the module, and setting up the preferences again. I tried it on 01/26 and could not get the APM module to work at all for reboot to recovery.

CM11 02/02 might be a good rom, but it is certainly not as smooth to install and get running initially as the 01/26 build. I will wait to see what comes next and if it installs and runs nicely, I will use it on my phone. I do miss the Reboot to Recovery that the APM Xposed Module offers. :(