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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fj@xda:
I am wondering if M919 can use the same modem！:confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] kendoka15:
Anyone try yet to root the new firmware with CF-Autoroot?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] wazedn:
Problems with the update (?)

I have been reading online about various issues plaguing the Galaxy S4 from upgrading to android 4.3. Some of the links that I have visited:

Samsung Galaxy S4 Users Experiencing Problems After Updating to Android 4.3 (Geeky Gadgets)

Android 4.3 update causing issues for Galaxy S4 owners too (Neowin)

(Sorry I cannot post links yet; please search these titles on Google)

Are any of you experiencing some of the issues discussed in the links (e.g. battery drain, inconsistent Wi-Fi, etc.)

I have received the notification but did not upgrade yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] speed4134:
root can be granted using cfautoroot via odin. Tried it and it works.

link to cfautoroot files

http://download.chainfire.eu/328/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-jfltetmo-jfltetmo-sghm919.zip

used method described here ( but as mentionned above, downloaded m919 file instead of 9505 files mentionned in tutorial !)

http://techbeasts.com/2013/11/10/ro...axy-s4-gt-i9500gt-i9505-on-android-4-3-guide/

p.s, My videotron m919V was on a custom ROM, so I could not get the official update.

1) downloaded the new firmware from sammobile

2)installed new official firmware via Odin

....set up everything

3) rooted phone with cf via Odin

4) Now enjoying 4.3 with full root privilege

easy !

---------- Post added at 07:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 PM ----------

root can be granted using cfautoroot via odin. Tried it and it works.

link to cfautoroot files

http://download.chainfire.eu/328/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-jfltetmo-jfltetmo-sghm919.zip

used method described here ( but as mentionned above, downloaded m919 file instead of 9505 files mentionned in tutorial !)

http://techbeasts.com/2013/11/10/ro...axy-s4-gt-i9500gt-i9505-on-android-4-3-guide/

p.s, My videotron m919V was on a custom ROM, so I could not get the official update.

1) downloaded the new firmware from sammobile

2)installed new official firmware via Odin

....set up everything

3) rooted phone with cf via Odin

4) Now enjoying 4.3 with full root privilege

easy !
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] stevenca:
I am grabbing the new firmware now as well from sammobile.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] interaser:
Will I lose my waranty without flashing custom room or custom recovery if I just root my S4 SGH-M919V?

Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omnifarious:
Looks like I'll be downloading this for the modem. Thanks for the heads up about sammobile.

Stupid question but do you have WiFi calling?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xsf04:
I didnt noticed any issues with 4.3 upgrade beside loosing the mobile on/off button in samsung pull down menu which pisses me off a bit, it has been replaced by reader mode, WTF. Good move Samsung, I will remember it...

Samsung knox seems partially installed, few of its processes are running aint sure if it's totally functional. Its bloatware to my opinion, should be optional, another thing ill remember Samsung...

Sent from my SGH-M919V
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] wazedn:
I don't think it has wi-fi calling. I think its just the stock firmware slightly modified with a custom modem for WIND Mobile and other stuff, like changing the 3G into a 4G icon, etc. Wi-fi calling was never included with the WIND Mobile Galaxy S4. I don't see why they would add it now without some big announcement.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omnifarious:
Thank you and sorry, I'm not familiar with that carrier. I saw M919*** and figured it could have been a t-mobile company. My mistake!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] wazedn:
Poorer battery life (?)

I just recently updated to Stock Android 4.3 M919VVLUEMK5 on my WIND Mobile Galaxy S4 (SGH-M919V) and I have noticed that the battery life is significantly poorer than when I had both Stock Android 4.2.2 M919VVLUAMG1 and Rooted Android 4.2.2 M919VVLUAMG1.

I am wondering whether or not it was just me that was experiencing this issue.

Screenshots for battery drain.

View attachment 2418964

View attachment 2418965

I was using Flipboard and listening to music at the same time.

On the plus side, the phone charges ridiculously fast.

Edit: New screenshot showing battery charging:

View attachment 2418994

Edit 2: Battery drain while idle is fixed by temporarily restarting the ohone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] crishna:
when you boot up your device, does it shows somewhere that your device was tempred with !? to keep waranty availlable for videotron in case of a problem ? i just need/want root, without unlocking anything else...

best regards.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] itzik_man:
In download mode...

Once you root 4.3 (with Knox), your flash counter goes to "Knox warranty valid 0x1" and that's it (you are out of warranty, with no possibility (up to date) of reversing the status.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] ArioK13:
I used triangle away with 4.3 M919 T-Mobile Jelly Bean rooted and it reset the counter to 0. Stay with official kernel and rom. You can always flash back to official, rooted, Triangle away then full unroot.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] crishna:
that includes knox !?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xsf04:
No, once you root 4.3 knox fs fingerprint is tripped. Flash memory region where flag reside might be protected who knows. Warranty scare is for fools.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dubardo:
Can someone please post the M919VVLUEMK5 baseband. Can't find 'em anywhere
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Android_Monsters:
You get it from here: http://www.androidayos.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-odin-stock-firmware/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dubardo:
Sorry I meant the MODEM .bin file
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadj:
i confirm, flashing

modem.bin

4.2.2 to the 4.3 is possible and secured , i had used it to unlock s4 with z3x yesterday (change the security file)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadj:
just decompress your stock with winrar or 7zip
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharkoparko:
Is a file for iGO navigation available for NEXUS 5?

Nexus 4 file won't start on Nexus 5 as resolution is not supported
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geemaan:
find and try the kits for S4/One.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] georgije:
its not working, i tryed and i get error

User interface resolution 1080x1701 is not supported igo primo
[HTC Tornado] silicuda:
Looking for Tornado Accessorie (see through case/cover)

Where could I buy it from? I tried doing a search online, no luck.

Thanks in advance
[HTC Tornado] muppet_65:
for cool cases try here:

http://www.boxwave.com/products/flexiskin/flexiskin-qtek-8300_718.htm

http://www.boxwave.com/products/flexiskin/flexiskin-i-mate-sp4m_731.htm

I got this case for sp5m (not a 100% match but works just fine). Their Sp3i case is an exact glove of sp3i - excellent case!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Smancho:
Im currently on Stock for Galaxy s3 Int, 4.1.2, and can't say that i like it one bit.

But i own an Galaxy gear and have made it work with 1.2 Gear manager (No notification)..

Kinda miss my CM Rom from Cyanogenmod..

What Rom are you guys on and still have everything working?

Anyone on Galaxy s3 ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
Just wondering how many of you out there have KNOX 0x1, and why?
[Galaxy S 4 General] younus_malik:
here comes the 1st unfortunate one
[Galaxy S 4 General] morfredus:
I, be cause i hâve rooted my S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jmldsilva:
Me too i use cm10.2
[Galaxy S 4 General] .TanTien:
Let's say I'm still on old bootloader and I won't update it, ever.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
I'm rooted so I could use Odin Mobile, flash 4.3, keeping old bootloader, stay rooted and KNOX 0x0.

But I'm still trying to figure out if it's possible to use custom recovery like CWM or TWRP without triggering KNOX :confused:

Alternatively some other way to make NanDroid backups ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] kuljit55:
I dont, luckily on old bootloader, running stock 4.2.2 with root only, im planning to wait till official 4.4 kitkat releases :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] mattiadj:
Sadly I'm here...

From universe with my gs4 snapdragon powered!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nokip:
Old bootloader and intend to keep it like that
[Galaxy S 4 General] aboutmarkanthony:
0x1 before, but now 0x0

my s4 is 0x1 before, but now 0x0 on knox, but i returned it for warranty purposes (WIFI problem), and guess what!

new main board means new bootloader, mean my knox vwarranty void reverted back to 0x0. :)

Here in the Philippines, 0x1 is still under warranty. :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
Good for you :good:

Have heard people talking about flashing wrong firmware by purpose in order to get device (or main board) replaced.

But hopefully some smart dev find another solution down the road :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] yarpiin:
I have Knox 0x1 and Phone still within warranty peroid.

But dont care low custom Roms too much ...:p
[Galaxy S 4 General] dratsablive:
Don't have Knox, I have the Google Play edition and bootloader is unlocked.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rando81:
0x1 and dont really care :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] garfield_cz:
I wanted original rooted rom, now I have it with bonus KNOX 0x1 on top of it ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] gsmyth:
Still 0x0 here with 4.2.2. bootloader on GoldenEye custom 4.3, had very briefly entertained the idea of going fully official with no root/custom anything, but installed GoldenEye 4.3 ROM and its too good to leave. Would mainly miss being able to remove the extra bloat/use an adblocker and a few other things, but overall just like a lighter, slighly tweaked, stock based ROM. Interesting to see quite a few with 0x1.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
Yes ... Interesting to see so many with 0x1 and quite a lot considering 0x1 (including my self).
[Galaxy S 4 General] YOSEFE:
Thought you had a solution or action plan?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
I have a solution and an action plan :laugh:

My solution is to f*** Samsung and my plan is to do this by triggering KNOX 0x1.

I accept playing around flashing custom firmware is my own decision and if something goes wrong I will pay for repair.

But if something

not related to flashing

get defective (let say screen or button), and Samsung Service center tells me that I lost warranty because of KNOX 0x1. Then I might have to make a bad firmware flash, play dumb and get me a new main board paid by Samsung!

I can't accept not being able to make a NanDroid backup and I have a need of controlling misbehaving apps by freezing or removing even if this requires root (Samsung bloatware included).
[Galaxy S 4 General] JCobra72:
I got knox 0x1 and don't really care about warrant void I have other options for replacement
[Galaxy S 4 General] Schabadaba:
On German Forum (handy-faq.de) 2 users report, that they have after flashing the new firmware (NAD) again KNOX 0x0...

someone can confirm this?
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Link?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jorgemiguel4:
I this he's talking about this: http://translate.google.com/transla...fnad_jb_4_4_2_leak_oxx_1t_28_01_2014_a-5.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Wow!

Interesting...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jay794:
Does it even make a difference? Nobody other than Samsung are likely to even know what Knox is when you sell your phone second hand
[Galaxy S 4 General] timberwolf60:
Samsung was so proud of knox and can't be reset. The only thing was Don't care about knox else get other brand of phone you like. I more enjoying my Z1 then using S3lte, I9505 and i9506 before. If you really like Samsung phone then don't root it.

Send from my C6903 using TapatalkPro

my Sg device: Z1 rooted136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.92 dualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 2.9.6. Samsung S2 standby for Z1 when Z1 no power.
[Galaxy S 4 General] LioCraft:
I got it too ... and don't care either.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mureren:
Some who know what Samsung's opinion on implementing KNOX in bootloader, own strange to be good for? What is the purpose of getting KNOX in?
[Galaxy S 4 General] timberwolf60:
Samsung knox was designed for superb security on their phone so they can sell to government and corporate, especially they aim to sell to US militaries to control the unmanned plan to kill terrorist. Even NSA also can't hacked their knoxed phone. We are a very small group and Samsung doesn't bother. Now I more enjoying Z1 with upto ip58, so never worrying rain, and battery was more lasting than S4 and S4 advance I used before.

Send from my C6903 using TapatalkPro

my Sg device: Z1 rooted136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.94 dualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 2.9.7. Samsung S2 standby for Z1 when Z1 no power.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mureren:
Knox may well not make the phone more secure than it was before? Knox is just a nuisance and annoyance to us, we will and must fight Among other Samsung miseries :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Sorry*:
Hi there,

where can I find it out?
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeverusSnape:
I´ve still on 0x0 and on Android 4.3 with Root (KingoAndroidRoot).

Regards
[Galaxy S 4 General] timberwolf60:
Please also give more details like rom and kingo root version. Thank

Send from my C6903 using TapatalkPro

my SG device: Z1 rooted 136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.117 xzdualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 3.0.2 [JB]

Samsung S2 in sleeping mode.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeverusSnape:
I used the actual Version of Kingo Android Root, from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2473747

My ROM is I9505XXUEMKE

Regards
[Galaxy S 4 General] timberwolf60:
Good, I already forgot the Samsung phone and more enjoying Z1. I gave away i9505 knox 0x1 to my son and sold away i9506 with S$200 lost within a month. Than my boss gave me an sealed N3 as a birthday gift, let my boss known that I exchanged it with Sony Z1, no knox issue and I can upgraded/downgraded firmware as I wishes.

Send from my C6903 using TapatalkPro

my SG device: Z1 rooted 136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.120 xzdualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 3.0.2 [JB]

Samsung S2 in sleeping mode.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Annunneo:
Only difference is I just finished the tutorial then immediately flashed the gpe ROM now I'm on mokee.
[Galaxy S 4 General] STi MAN:
How do I check?
[Galaxy S 4 General] chudy_85:
[MENTION=301318]stiman[/MENTION]

How check??? You realy don't know

Shoot down you phone and go to download mode and you see

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9505 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Not necessary anymore

There's an app on play store that can check your status

nop
[Galaxy S 4 General] STi MAN:
Yeh it doesn't tell me in Download mode
[Galaxy S 4 General] tbillings_100:
I have 0x1 because I'm a flashing freak!! lol. I have an E330s S4 and I boot between rooted stock 4.4.2 firmware and CM 11 via nandroids.

Regards.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kosidroid:
after having the sgs4 for about 9 months a friend (non-smartphone user since then) bought a nexus and started flashing whatever can be flashed. he didnt stop talking about and after worrying a bit about warranty or not i decided to start flashing also... well, thats why i am here - knox-0x1-ed :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] MattBooth:
I'm on the MGA bootloader, and will never update.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
CM 11 when stable or Google Edition might be the way to get KitKat without changing bootloader and trigger KNOX 0x1? That would probably mean good by to Samsung firmwares, but I think I can live with that :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] leoniedelt:
Me cos I don't give a toss. Plus, flashaholic.
[Galaxy S 4 General] MattBooth:
When I unboxed this phone a month and a bit ago, it was already on the MGA, non KNOX firmware. 1 hour later it had the GPE ROM on there and I have not looked back.

Now running GPE 4.4 :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] wiwibrown:
me too.
[Galaxy S 4 General] wichniar:
Knox 0X1 It pisses me off that status.
[Galaxy S 4 General] emilcioran99:
0x1 and don't care.

Love my phone and TW.

Didn't like knox s....t.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kai604:
0x1 because of root.
[Galaxy S 4 General] soulstorm:
0x0 new bootloader no root

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] Extended181:
i f***ked knox today

i decides to root and get custom recovery and now i dont care about knox 0x1 :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
LOL :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Ali.Asgari2006:
i9500

hi

i use pre-root 4.2.2 rom (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317105)

update to 4.3 with my phone .

now knox 0x0 and work perfectly with root phone .

sorry for my bad english
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
Good :)

But to my knowledge you wan't be able to flash custom recovery without getting KNOX 0x1 :rolleyes:

Annoying not being able to make a NanDroid backup :mad:
[Galaxy S 4 General] AdrienC:
+1 Root de la vega. I guess that because I booted twice with the root files on the sdcard.

Regret so much for accepting the OTA right after I purchased it.

But now I don't care.I'll sue them if I have hardware issues as digitizer and such.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hoggles:
Peeps need to start thinking about a very important fact, that will affect many of us who bought the S4 close to release.

I believe Sammy's limited warranty is only 1 year... So come May & June... tripping the KNOX flag won't matter one bit :victory:
[Galaxy S 4 General] ashwin988:
You are exactly right. My warranty is over in May next year. For me is either I suffer right now with the stock bloated firmware or I root and enjoy my phone. I chose root and I have Knox 0x1. Really don't care lol
[Galaxy S 4 General] Adnan73:
I bought the phone for making my ROMs and stuff, I do not care Knox
[Galaxy S 4 General] paulo.braga:
Weird. I never used custon rom, never rooted and I got knox 0x1

My phone came with 4.2.2 ZTO and i put 4.3 BTU and then installed 4.3 ZTO.

Only original samsung firmware that i download from sammobile.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
There seems to be some kind of agreement that EU customers do have HW warrenty despite of any changes to SW (Root, KNOX 0x1, custom firmware etc.). Over the next few months this will be put to the test and we will know for sure! :good:

Maybe some kind of list over countries and there respective warrenty policy regarding KNOX 0x1 would be nice?

Anyway ... I still miss some kind of response from Samsung themselves!
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
knox 0x1

knox 0x1, thats the way i roll.

i have changed hardware parts myself on my previous two phones,

and thanks to XDA the chances of bricking your phone is minimal if you are not mentally unable to read of course.

"Reading threads makes you high" ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Ryanrioz:
yeah... Same as Malaysia due to the charger port damaged :p

send my signature phone to xda via G.Chromes:good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] eSSeMM:
I had my phone repaired twice in the UK and both times KNOX was reset to 0x0

First time the phone was dead, second time WiFi would not enable.

Phone is currently 0x1.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] csec:
On old bootloader but I don't care about knox, I will trip the flag if I feel the need and if there was a way to reset it, I'd surely reset and then trip it again. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] ench18:
Here in the Philippines, i've noticed that if you've tripped Knox by any way like putting a custom recovery on a stock TW or by rooting and get 0x1 it don't matter. You still get your warranty's worth. LOL. I don't care about the Knox thingy. It's just an irritating thing on our S4's.

Edit - But if you brick your S4... that's a whole different story :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] body150165:
I understand that KNOX has benefits in certain situations. But I think I will not experience those situations.

So, I just flashed TWRP and dont care if I have 0x1

Actually, the way Samsung handles communication and the recent KNOX, benchmark-cheating and local lock issues motivate me to choose a different brand next year. It might be Motorola, Sony or Huawei.

nevertheless. I am fine with my i9500 by now
[Galaxy S 4 General] btmz:
since Mega-roms are nuked, i have 0x1...but i dont care
[Galaxy S 4 General] darknes4o:
That moment when you don't have knox bootloader :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Houndcatcher:
0x0 here still...for now ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] DannyDrama:
Stand by for dumb question! What are the chances of getting a 4.2 S4 if I order one today? I'm guessing zero but you never know!
[Galaxy S 4 General] LuigiBull23:
Old bootloader just because I've been on AOSP and too lazy to go back to TW. So even if I did update, KNOX really isn't a BIG deal...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
It IS a big deal as long as some people loose HW warranty due to KNOX 0x1 :eek:

As it is now, there is no clear statement from Samsung.

Different service centers give different answers even in countries where we should be protected by law!
[Galaxy S 4 General] LuigiBull23:
Well I was actually referring to myself but nonetheless, this is true from a general perspective.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rejanmanis:
yes i do,

since i live in Indonesia, and i bought I9505 in The US,

There is no way i will go back to US only for RMA my S4 :D:D

only I9500 officially available here in my country.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Knox warranty void 0x0

Root Status Achieved

Samsunb Binary yes

Knox Kernel Lock 0x0

System Modified NO

I guess it's a win win!

and i have some slight modifications and Knox Works! :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 General] chudy_85:
Do you reset knox warranty void??? Maybe you only root and Knox it's no change.

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9505 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy S 4 General] deimuel:
There is an app that will root your device but KNOX warranty will not be voided
[Galaxy S 4 General] akadxda:
My Knox also 0x1

(I activate it because I do my Rоms and mods)

but it does not matter My phone is dead after flash no download mod, no recovery mod, not even vibrate - Service
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I've found some interesting things here according to knox

Deleting apps not accorded to knox will give you Knox 0x0

Resetting Knox with titanium backup will keep you Knox 0x0

but you'll get FC in Knox (after whipe just reboot and it will download knox pox all over again :cool:

This is a win!

oh and yeah i've got root!
[Galaxy S 4 General] tonyd371:
It's this working on the US version
[Galaxy S 4 General] Indha Lezzio:
And i have to suppose u have a custom recovery... if so i think we are several people waiting for the light!!!!!!! :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] akadxda:
These are your experiments?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
+1

Exactly my words ... no custom anything :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Nope still stock there to :p but it seems like deleting anything not Knox related will end up in 0x0

Since many people claims freezing Knox or anything similar will get you 0x1 however only wipe it won't do it.

I'm more or less trying to figure out if what will affect the Knox loader and what won't. so far it's good sign but I want to see what someone wrote is true if the part that was tested will revert Knox. if I was able to dump all Parkinson's (not all that is in a tar) but those whose already writte. seems like there's an efuse and you can hex it. I'm going to investigate in that one because it was told that if modify the kernel so it won't check for signature it might work however it's not only the kernel that needs to be hacked. and I'm sure that the person who wrote that was getting it wrong. What I understood it's the bootloader that checks the signature of the kernel. And he was talking about modifying the kernel but to prevent the efuse for being used. that's is a good to go thing but then Knox will still remain 0x1 (I assume) but only temporary if not another fuse is used. but modifying the bootloader to prevent the signature check or always return true might do the trick. if that doesn't work well have to dig deeper to find the key (and that my friend will be a pain)!

[True Friendship doesn't exist]
[Galaxy S 4 General] aapje1299:
I can confirm that deleting anything knox related does not trigger the knox warranty bit.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
Might be true, but on newer firmwares bootloader and kernel is part of KNOX and if you sneeze or cough you might get KNOX 0x1 :D

Installing custom recovery for sure will :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] btmz:
With the old DeLaVega and Mega roms for me to!