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[Moto X General] eyc:
I'll try to post a pic of the white face later.

But, that said, I know what you mean. This is the first white face phone I've purchased, and I kind of wish I had gone black for principally two reasons: 1) The contrast between a darker screen and white bezel is somewhat significant (no blending as you said); 2) because the bumper appears to be coated onto the glass, there is a very noticeable gap between where the black screen and white bezel meet in relation to the coated white bumper. The gap is not a lateral gap; it's as if the white bezel is on the underside of the glass, and the white bumper is on the topside of the glass, thus creating a vertical gap. This makes you feel like you aren't right up on the screen, but farther away. (Small gripe, but aesthetically displeasing to me.) Furthermore, there is a very slight offset to my screen (tilted diagonally), which is really exacerbated by the contrast. I would recommend a black face with a colorful back.

I'll add a third reason. As I think someone mentioned (maybe you), there appears to be a 3-4 pixel border of black around the entire screen. So, let's say your screen is showing something very white. There will be a dark black border surrounding the screen, and then a stark white bezel. It doesn't look that good.
[Moto X General] cchderrick:
here is mine. white, royal blue, red accent.
[Moto X General] radeonboy:
I think you have to see the Navy Blue in person to really get a sense of the shade, but here's a pic of my Navy Blue/Yellow/Black Moto X. It's almost dark grey under incandescent light, but still distinctly Navy blue in daylight.
[Moto X General] biggins82786:
Any ladies out there? I was looking at the spearmint, black face, metallic purple accent. Looks like it'd contrast pretty well. I haven't seen the purple accents in any pictures anywhere though. Only on MotoMaker.
[Moto X General] ReadyMadeFire:
The Navy blue is nice. I will be receiving my new moto x tomorrow. I went with the woven black/black/orange. I hope it looks good. Will post some pics soon.
[Moto X General] biggins82786:
Nothing against you Navy Blue users but it doesn't have the pop like the other colors do. With saying that, I like the cement color for some reason.. :rolleyes:
[Moto X General] radeonboy:
I take that as a compliment actually. I aimed for something subtle that wasn't black but still have a bit of flair so dark blue with a yellow accent struck the balance for me.

I have to agree that the cement color looks absolutely cool. I would've went for it but I couldn't find a matching accent.
[Moto X General] Ckryt:
Yup I got mine, but called in to escalate the delivery time. They shipped it overnight priority :)
[Moto X General] ras0787:
Lucky. Can't say I don't hate you a little bit right now. Lol :P
[Moto X General] elpeterson:
Yeah I did the same thing.
[Moto X General] Ckryt:
Got mine with Bamboo & Engraving ... Just ask for them to escalate the shipping :)
[Moto X General] elpeterson:
Also here is my boot ani. Fitting now that it Moto has been sold haha
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
Mine ebony backed X just arrived and I am pretty disappointed. First thing I see when I open the box is a pretty hefty white speck that can not be removed. Its very flat satin finish has no appreciable grain (it feels more like paper), and is quite slippery to hold. In addition to the white speck, there is some marring in the wood around the flash and in the top left.

If or not for the speck, I might have kept it... but I don't see the ebony finish being very durable, and will be much easier to drop than my woven black back. While it is attractive from a distance, whatever the process they're using is not for me.
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
That's why I got bamboo. Is the only real wood option rather than generic wood that's coated with something.
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
Yeah... just couldn't live with a white phone.
[Moto X General] Shoops:
I felt the same way until I saw the bamboo on white and I have to say it is the first white phone I ever liked. I just ordered it today. I may have different feeling once I see it in person but for now it just looks too nice. I still have my black N5 if I don't like the bamboo. Sorry to hear about your ebony. I like the looks of the ebony and walnut with a black front.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Mine shipped... Receiving tomorrow. Ordered walnut, white front and orange accents. Will take side by side pics with my current ebony back one :)
[Moto X General] ctowne:
I want mine to ship
[Moto X General] Konno_Yuuki:
I got bamboo, with an engraving, and I got the shipping notice yesterday. I should be get it tommorow.
[Moto X General] bmt626:
you were absolutely correct i just received my shipping notifications and it should be here tomorrow via fedex overnight yay for XDA being more helpful than moto's call center lol
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
No problem ;) ... Not sure why few of them got 2day, everyone I knew who ordered all had got overnight shipping.

Even the return shipping on couple of them I sent back was also overnight.
[Moto X General] ctowne:
Woot! Mine shipped like 5 minutes after I posted that :thumbup:

Overnight it is
[Moto X General] theremix:
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Walnut back
[Moto X General] justin_k:
If you're real eager sign up for FedEx Delivery Manager (Google it, XDA won't let me post links yet). They show your package much quicker than Motorola updates their system. I found out mine was shipped when I logged in around 2 PM but Motorola didn't update their site or email me until after 10 PM. I also ordered ~5 minutes after I got the code with no engraving. I saw someone with my exact setup that ordered about an hour after me that got theirs shipped on Tuesday so it doesn't seem to matter when you ordered. If they don't ship it soon you could try calling them as some other people did and get it expedited, maybe you'd get it by Saturday.

Has anyone else here had theirs ship FedEx 2Day? I'm wondering if it could be related to the winter weather in the Southeast US. Maybe FedEx isn't offering Overnight service in the SE right now. I don't mind as I'll have mine tomorrow but was just curious.
[Moto X General] detonation:
Bought mine on Tuesday night, got a ship notification about an hour ago, should be here tomorrow! Will post when I get it, though it's not anything that hasn't been posted yet (walnut/black/silver)
[Moto X General] sickorwuut:
I just picked up this color combo :D with the valentines day special and an extra $30 dollars off coupon
[Moto X General] johncorda:
Hello everyone.

I received my Walnut/black/blue accents yesterday. Unfortunately it has to go back. There is some pitting or little scratches on the wood surface. Not sure how to describe it really, but it feels like 7 or 8 little specks of sand throughout the back, not completely smooth by a long shot. I don't think it will show up in pics. I'm also not crazy about the blue accents with this wood finish.

So the other wood back owners - is the back COMPLETELY smooth for you? Being that this is such a new thing - a "wooden" phone, I don't really know what to expect, other than unpredictability in look. Wood is imperfect, but I think it's supposed to be a smooth back.

Then there is the issue that when it IS properly smooth, it seems it will slip out of the hand easily.

To confirm - you folks have determined that the plastic backs (specifically the woven black) does NOT have a texture? How about more grippy?

Either way, if this is just a quality control issue, I'm leaning towards the bamboo/black front. At first I didn't like the white trim, but it looks kinda cool and I have to have a black front. Accents? Orange, silver, or blue. These choices are stressing me out lol.
[Moto X General] eksasol:
The wood backs are smooth and a little slippy. If you want grippy you have to choose regular colors. When you choose colors it will say if a color is "smooth finish" which means it's slippy.

For accent I chose silver since it seems the norm.

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[Moto X General] elpeterson:
The reason I got the Moto X was because my white Nexus 5 was big and slippery. Because this device fits in my hand well the minor slipperyness (nothing compared to the nexus) is not an issue. Also, the wood seems to get warm from my touch easier which gives it grip. The nexus was always cold to the touch and therefore had no grip whatsoever.
[Moto X General] sapalot:
Nice, those are orange accents, right? Could you make a picture from the side, so that we can see all orange accents? Would be much appreciated. :)
[Moto X General] Ajj915:
Weird. I ordered mine on Monday...got the we are building it email on Tuesday...now nothing. Still shows that the estimated deliver being today. I chatted with someone there last night and they said it was completed and should be here either today or tomorrow. Wouldn't I have already gotten a shipping email? I'm eagerly awaiting this phone...ditching my Verizon Note 3 for a T Mobile X.
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
My ebony has one of these specks of "sand" near the bottom. As someone who used to finish hardwood a lot, it is simply some foreign material (dirt/lint/etc) that landed its way onto the phone during the finishing process. It is the hardened finish in the material that makes it feel like a grain of sand.

Normally, what I would do if I had any of this in my final coat, would be to buff it out with a little fine steel wool. But the finish on my ebony seems so thin and easily marred I am not sure I'd like the results.

Again, I am really disappointed how this finish looks and feels up close. My cheap laminate flooring looks and feels more like real wood, and it is way tougher.
[Moto X General] drxikh:
got mine yesterday, walnut, black, and silver. mine is not smooth at all. it has bumps all over the back. they look kind of like air bubbles. now i am debating whether or not i should send it back for a new one. =\
[Moto X General] raiderep:
I would get on a chat with them for an exchange and call if that doesn't work. I have the exact same design and my back is smooth all around and not one bump or blemish. Got a pic for us?
[Moto X General] drxikh:
It's hard to see the bumps right now, but I can definitely feel them. Maybe I'll try later tonight to get a pic. The lighting definitely plays a role.
[Moto X General] eyc:
Guys, it's wood. Its very nature is to have imperfections and uneven texture. Were you expecting it to be as smooth and flawless as a piece of molded plastic or machined metal? I realize that some of the varnishing may have left un-natural bumps, but does it really matter that much? It's not like a screen protector which requires absolute precision.
[Moto X General] raiderep:
Good point, I was hoping a pic might help us help him a bit more.
[Moto X General] @rbiter:
It potentially could matter. A bump or two in the finish might mean nothing and is part of the nature of having a wood finish. The problem is though that finish is there to protect the wood from getting moisture and messing with attenuation.

sent from my sm-9005.
[Moto X General] drxikh:
i wasn't sure if it was supposed to be smooth or not, which is why i commented on johncorda's post.

i am actually chatting with someone from motorola's support and she said she has a walnut back cover and that it's supposed to be smooth. ss attached.
[Moto X General] ctowne:
Take some sandpaper to that gal
[Moto X General] johncorda:
Well some are reporting a completely smooth back on the wood phones... and I personally don't like to feel anything less.

That being said, I suppose I really don't have to worry about that OR slip factor because I'm most likely going to get a clear plastic case when I get my replacement (IMO the imperfections of the first phone are unacceptably bad plus I'm going with different finish/colors).

Now to get Moto to email me a new $30 off code that they keep promising. I bought the phone unlocked for $100 off via the one hour sale recently ($70 off standard promotion plus an additional $30). Time to give them another call...
[Moto X General] detonation:
You won't need a new code for the replacement process. What they'll do is put a hold on your credit card for the price of a new phone, give you a redemption code to order your replacement, then take the hold off your card when they receive your first phone back. Alternatively, you can opt to just send your phone back instead of giving them your CC, and then they'll give you the redemption code when they receive it.
[Moto X General] johncorda:
Okay, they told me to order the new one, and send the other one back within fourteen days. Once they receive the first one they refund it.

As for the $30 code - they told me they are generating it and I should get an email (I just spoke to them). So I'm waiting for the code in my email before I order the replacement, to get the same deal.
[Moto X General] Konno_Yuuki:
I live in Wisconsin and I got 2 day shipping and my Moto X came in today. Speaking of which, here's my bamboo back, black front, and silver accented Moto X.
[Moto X General] enthused91:
Dark wood back, White front

Does anyone have either ebony or walnut with a white front?? I really like those two woods, and also really want a white front, but I'm just not sure of how it will look... doesn't seem like many people veer away from having the front match the sides for some reason, but I'd love to see how that looks...

I've seen pictures of the bamboo with a black front, and the white sides are visually very noticeable (not necessarily a bad thing) but I feel like going from a dark wood to a black side to a white front wouldn't look quite as harsh -- especially more-so with the ebony, but I'm not sure
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
Spoken by someone who never worked with hardwood before (c;

Take a look at a Yamaha piano (or even just a quality pre-finished plank of flooring) when you get a chance to see what can be done with a hardwood finish. Yes, wood has imperfections in appearance, but properly finished (sanded, coated, etc) it should feel as consistent as any other surface. Properly finished it will have a warm glow, a tactile, quality feel, and will withstand the elements. While I can only speak for the ebony, the finish is poorly done, and has none of those characteristics; not to mention the choice of a paper smooth finish (yes, it quite literally feels like paper) offers no tack or texture, and makes it prone to slip from your hand.

We live in an age of many high tech synthetic finishes so we are not handcuffed to the limitations of oil or shellac anymore. I have oak treads on a spiral staircase here, finished with a hard polyurethane (GymSeal). It has had people wearing street shoes running up and down it since 2001 and there is no sign of wear. Plus it has a semi satin finish that offers a good degree of traction to everything except golf spikes.

The 8 square inches of these backs should have a better, more appropriate finish than they do. Possibly the bamboo ones do, but the ebony does not. The feeling I had as soon as I opened the box was... "oh, this was a mistake". Not what I expected at all given the rest of the materials used in this phone.

Sorry to be ranting; just wanted to give the heads up for folks considering this and expecting a quality wood finish they may be used to seeing on cabinets, flooring, and yes... pianos (or other musical instruments for that matter). These could have been so beautiful, but they're just meh.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Yes I do... Will be delivered when I get back home today. Will take pics and upload.
[Moto X General] eyc:
Good points. I'd like to know what you think

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the proper finish, which you didn't really get into despite describing the "feel" issues. Obviously the finish should be aesthetically pleasant, but what about the tactile feel? You said yours has a "paper" feel/finish. How could the tactile feel been made better? What was your expectation in light of your degree of knowledge in woods when you purchased the phone? Should it have been coarse (in a consistent way)? If so, then wouldn't people complain about the look? Clearly, there has to be a balance in texture and appearance. For example, if the phone had the finish of a Yamaha piano, it would be beautiful, but wouldn't it be even more slick than a paper finish?

This is all somewhat of an aside to the original point that there are imperfections, which I believe is hitting on people's concerns with aesthetics more than feel. I agree that the phone should be great, but to expect wood (on a phone) to have the same quality of molded plastic or a Yamaha piano is pretty unreasonable. Can it be done? Sure. But, to have the expectation of perfection on a first-of-its-kind is a bit unfair. Next, people are going to be complaining that the wood is getting dinged and dulled more than plastic.
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
Well... I am not sure (nor is anyone else it seems) what Moto's process is for getting the wood they're using to look like teak, walnut, and ebony... but consider this:

Go into any Guitar Center and look at their cheapo, entry level, Chinese made guitars. Yes, they are thin, cheap veneer with a poly finish, but look and feel a hundred times better than what I received with the Moto X. I was expecting at least that. A thicker, more glossy finish would have provided some grip, and a lot more substantial protection.

A glossier finish provides more surface tension with the oils and moisture in your skin. Unless the piano is waxed or oiled, your fingers (when dragged over it) will stop dead in its tracks due to this surface tension.

Another example... think of carrying around a large plank of thin plywood between your thumb and fingers. One finished in a smooth flat, almost chalky acryllic, and another in a glossy or semi glossy enamel. The first will take much more pressure to keep from slipping, while the second will almost stick to your skin.
[Moto X General] eyc:
Great point. I agree that the glossy finish would be easier to grip. Though, after a certain point of hand sweat or oil, you'd get the opposite effect. I've never owned an iPhone, but I thought people were complaining that the glass was too slick. I also thought my S4 was too slick.
[Moto X General] justin_k:
Well, I guess that disproves my theory. Strange that they only send a few by 2day. Oh well, I got mine earlier today so I'm happy. I've been using it too much to get any pics but I'll try to post a couple later tonight.
[Moto X General] TypoCorrecto:
Ebony Moto X I just got my mom...

http://imgur.com/a/s5WiB
[Moto X General] drxikh:
here's a pic that i took. i tried to point out with arrows where the bumps are. there are a lot more than are visible in the picture.
[Moto X General] Ryno77:
That's really bad. I'd have no hesitation sending that back.
[Moto X General] Solutions Etcetera:
The poly finishes of today are softer than lacquer (and of course glass). Their main advantage is protection, and application ease due to their self leveling nature. The main disadvantage is in refinishing. Oil or lacquer based finishes are very easy to spot repair, where the poly finish needs to be stripped and reapplied.

But the poly stuff wears like iron and is non-porous, so it cleans up well. Sweat and oil are not embedded like they are with oil based finishes. Poly is used on a lot of prefinshed hardwood flooring and, as previously mentioned, entry level musical instruments. A tough, beautiful finish that is non-labor intensive to apply.

Think of it like a very thin, hard TPU case!
[Moto X General] Ckryt:
Eeek! Yeah if mine would've came like that I would've definitely sent it back. Luckily the bamboo seems to look more natural (probably since it is bamboo) then the wood finishes that just got added. Seems like they're pretty overwhelmed with all the wood requests - I had a call to discuss returning a case I got and they send they were heavily impacted this week with Moto X promo/wood requests. Guessing they might be rushing some to meet delivery deadlines.

Hopefully if you get a replacement it'll be on point...
[Moto X General] Ajj915:
I just got my email that my X shipped. Next Day Fed Ex. I did black/walnut/silver. Hope I have no blemishes. The ebony ones on here have me worried.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Ok just got mine which is walnut back and see couple of bumps like yours. I have had the ebony and bamboo back before and didn't have this issue. It's not that bad as yours but can feel the bump. Looks like this is happening with only walnut backs. Anyone else other than walnut have this issue.
[Moto X General] hdebo:
I have the same issue with my walnut back with the bumps. I called and was told to call back Monday to discuss a replacement. I think I will try to swap the walnut for bamboo to fix the issue.
[Moto X General] elpeterson:
Ahahaha, carpe diem! Seize the...carpe!!! Amazing movie.
[Moto X General] Ajj915:
F*me...I hope mine isn't all jacked up. Will post pics tomorrow. I won't hesitate to send back either. I wonder if they got in a hurry with all the wood back orders last week they rushed them.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Yeah I will call as well... Sucks to set up the phone again. Like the walnut back with white color option though, so will ask for the same color combo replacement.
[Moto X General] emery19:
ordered mine tuesday around 11 pm. shipped yesterday afternoon, on my doorstep waiting for me to get home from work at 1130 this afternoon. green, with black front and blue accents. so stoked. replacing my shattered galaxy nexus. will post pics eventually.
[Moto X General] elpeterson:
Could anyone with a Navy & White combo show off a few more pics other than the ones posted?? I'm thinking of ditching my wood-backed phone. Not sold on it unfortunately.
[Moto X General] ctowne:
You gotta post some pics of that! That's a great combo :thumbup:
[Moto X General] Ajj915:
Just got my walnut black version. Back is smooth as can be. I'll post pics later.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Lucky you... Smooth as it can be.
[Moto X General] emery19:
Thanks Chris! now you me and deryck have x's haha

edit: went throughthe whole process of getting photos from my old phone to photobucket and im not allowed to post outside links.. cool. see attached images.

yeah i know the plastic screen thing is still on, leaving it on till me screen protector comes in. just got to decide which one i want. looking at skinomi.
[Moto X General] ddmcs14:
I think your walnut back is the best looking one I've seen.
[Moto X General] tatltael:
Hey guys. Got my walnut back today. The phone feels solid and looks amazing. Much better than the pictures.

I do have a few very tiny irregularities with the smoothness of the back on the top left. They aren't bumps, but more like small depressions and they're almost impossible to see in pictures but I tried capturing it.

I'm not sure if this kind of thing is expected with wood and just adds character, or if I should replace it. Honestly, you can only see them if you hold the phone up to a light at an angle and can only feel them if you run your fingertip over that part. Its very minor and doesn't bother me too much, but then again it isn't perfectly smooth like the rest of the back.

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Here's 3 more pictures in better light that show the problem.
[Moto X General] detonation:
Got my walnut back yesterday. Perfectly smooth with no imperfections. However I can't help but feel a little underwhelmed by it...as someone mentioned above it has a paper/parchment feel to it. If it wasn't advertised as real wood, I could easily think it was just a fake printed wood laminate glued to the back.

Debating just exchanging it for the developer edition now. Or maybe bamboo if doesn't feel as cheaper as the wood finishes.