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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Holy Cow, Sherri. You are like Super Soccer Mom on Steroids! Let me just "stare" at the schedule for a minute...

...ohhhhhhhhh my! :rolleyes:

Gosh, if you stopped by, we couldn't even watch a 15 second Geico commercial, let alone a dinner a a movie. :D

...that is, if you were free to do such things, Ma'am. :cowboy:

Well, maybe you could walk me over to the beach bar and if anybody gives us trouble, one "Popeye Punch" from little Sherri would send the bad guy sailing over the bar rooftop to plop down in the ocean, out past the reef. That would be fun, ...right? :silly:

Where do you get the energy for all of this, Sherri? Chewing coco leaves or a case of Red Bull? LOL! :laugh:

And you still "play phones" too! You are an *amazing* woman, you know that? Thanks for the insight, Sherri. :eek:

Goodnight girl. Sweet dreams if you can rest long enough to have one. I hope so.

-Paul

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Oh cool! Thanks for the side by side picture, Scott. Is that your Razr and your Turbo together? You actually have both phones at the same time? What a luck break for a comparison photo. The Turbo is only a little bigger, which I thought would be a bad thing, but the whole front of it is "all screen". Neat. Does it feel and look like a *much* bigger screen, Scott? It is drooling good nice to look at.

Hmmm, NO ext-sdcard slot. Not good. :(

Trying NOT to get caught up in this 3 week sale/hysteria. Rushing off to buy something because of a time limit can have serious repercussions. But, this for sure is a much better phone. We have to find out from any dev if there is a likelihood that this phone can be rooted and will it take a CyanogenMod rom?

So, if I can come up with $100 in the next 3 weeks and turn in my just replaced and rooted Razr, that is it? I got the new service, no other money, and the bill and service stay the same? This I need to know because I got unlimited everything and I would hate it if Verizon tries to pull a fast one and tell me only with the phone I have now. The never said that so it should not be the case.

Internal sdcard 4-8x larger.

21MP front camera, dual LED flash, and 1080p rear camera.

1.2GHz dual core CPU v.s. 2.7GHz quad core CPU

1Gb RAM v.s. 3GB RAM

5.2" v.s.4.3" screen

So for real. My phone plus a hundred bucks and the bill stays the same and all it would cost is the hundred dollars, yes?

Ugh, I am like WAY broke but for a single C Note, my whole world would change and the plan remains the same, same bill. Oh man, this is a super tease. Tell me that it is true?

...Anybody? :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Decon1:
Not to dampen the day or mood but you all might cruise over to the Turbo forum. Coupla things not right...just sayin'. I wish the LG G3 had better battery reports as my RAZR Maxx has me spoiled. I am not sure that the Droid MAXX still might not be the choice. My brother has one and simply loves the phone...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] matthieu971:
hello I just do the update today and can not find my micsd

would you solutions for I have already removed and reset several times without any answers.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
Well, there we go again.

Lately I've been experiencing bad behavior of CM11 which only seemed to disappear when installing a new version, but after a while the problem returns. I have used all my knowledge so far to isolate the problem but I couldn't find a pattern yet.

It begins with severe lag, apps that don't start but show a black screen for 30 secs and then show up, unresponsive phone even for notification bar, ANR in many apps appearing after 20 secs flinging the screen.

For battery savings I use Greenify and Amplify xposed module (ex Lion Tamer, ex Unbounce). I try to keep them light, however, just activating least significant options to avoid compromising the system. I even not greenify Play Services, despite it's one of the most power hungry pieces.

When the problem starts I try using Trickster to tinker with governors and minfree values. I increased read ahead value (after installation I always bump it up from 128 to 1024), changed to noop, but nothing changes. Changing minfree (I think) worsens the scenario. Lowering or increasing values just seem to do the same: worse. I tried on a CM older build to live without Greenify or xposed, untouched. It seemed to work very well but battery dropped 50% steadily in 3 h of light or no use.

What can I do to further troubleshoot this? What tool can I install to monitor system variables and see what's going on? Something on dmesg? CoolTool?

I'm now on 1024. Stopped upgrade to 1031 after Ohmster's comments about that build.

Thanks in advance.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sherri:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION], I will bet that the Verizon deal forces a new contract, thus getting rid of your unlimited data. They are "waiving" the activation fee, which means you would normally need to pay one. If I walk into Verizon store and pay full price for a phone, I can walk out and not have it activated. Then I can go home, go online, and do my own equipment "swap" online. Won't effect my plan at all, because I already have a smartphone. If I had a "dumb phone" and tried this, it would tell me to choose a data plan. I current have a couple of old smartphones here, out of service. One is my OG Droid, another is my MotoQ. I can go online and swap the service to them any time. My daughters smartphone broke (under warranty), so while we were waiting for new one to arrive, I did this so she could use my old OG Droid. Logged into her Google account and she was good to go.

If I went to buy a phone at discounted prices (which is what this so-called deal is), it would change my plan. People that will take advantage of this are people on Edge plans, or tiered plans...

I will be shocked if I hear differently!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
If you go to VerizonWireless.com and try to upgrade your phone I think you will see that you lose your unlimited data. The monthly cost may change too depending on how much data you think you will need.

Also, keep in mind that Lenovo just bought Motorola. It is totally unclear what that will mean for the future of "Motorola" phones. It could be good, or it could be bad.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] scottgti:
I lost my unlimited data last month, so getting a new 2 year agreement and a $99 Turbo was fine with me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] crackerjack1957:
Unlimited data plan still works, Verizon decided not to throttle, so must have been something you did to loose it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] scottgti:
Our unlimited family plan was in my ex's name. She went to Sprint, Verizon wouldn't let me assume the plan. I broke up with her, so yes I did something to lose it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] crackerjack1957:
Sorry I brought it up, now I kinda feel bad for saying anything about it!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] SimpTheChimp:
Ok, here you go, bud - four screenshots from Disk Usage:

So, as you can see:

\Data is sized at 2362MB and has 317MB free;

\Cache is sized at 295MB and has 278MB free; and

\System is sized at 688MB and has 69MB free.

Again, I don't think system really matters does it? It's the ROM / System area and should only have stuff in it that I flashed (i.e. ROM, and in my case the GApps).

So... I don't see anything that blows my mind, nothing to me looks small enough to cause this insufficient memory problem. However, someone else mentioned that maybe it is a 'special' area that the Play Store downloads packages into - that that area is low on space? If so, is there something I can do to 'flush' this application cache> Perhaps that would help.

Just wonderin....

-Tom
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
You know. It has been mentioned... but I have always been concerned with how little space you have left for your data. Previously, it was something like 272mb - and I immediately suspected that was the culprit. Then someone (cannot recall now) mentioned it was a tad low - exactly what I thought.

OK, so a little over 300m now does 'seem' sufficient (since most apps are not nearly that size), but are you/we really sure? If the phone offers you a few gigs of app storage, doesn't 300mb remaining sound a little low?

I am on stock slot, so not too relevant, but from what I see, I've used "around" 2gb and have around 2gb left.

Just my2cents. ;)

:p --Daniel. :p

Generated on a RAZR Maxx (XT910) using XDA's free mobile app.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Wow, Sherri, you are like a walking encyclopedia! ...not just good looking. :D

You got a heck of a lot going on under the skin, girl. Not only terrific girly stuff, but all things fantastic adult woman, packed tight into one killer female body. Gosh I didn't think they made girls like that anymore. Women like you are clearly out of my league, but it gives me someone to look up to and be friends with. You are "Superwoman, Sherri! :laugh:

I knew it. There is no way Verizon would give me a hot new phone, dirt cheap, new contract, and not take away unlimited data. New phone, new plan, we don't offer unlimited anymore, yeah right. NOT happening.

The guy and wife I was talking to have this Edge Plan and pay dirt cheap money for the phone. What is this "Edge plan" stuff, Sherri? This member pretty much had no choice, he had an XT912 with constant issues and the wife had a different outdated phone. They have this "Edge" stuff and got the twin Turbos really cheap. The dude tells me the phone is nice and works quite well, but no more ad blocking and it does not "feel" like rocket powered compared to a really good build of cm11 when his XT912 was working well. He is beginning to miss root already and there is not a shred of it anywhere in site. Motorola/VZW went over this device with a fine tooth comb to make

sure

there are no glitches in the OS or filesystem that can be exploited to blow the boot-loader diode and grant root access. Historically at least one Motorola programmer left an exploit in the system so that it could be rooted, without his boss' finding out. NOT looking good for root on this Turbo. :(

You are right man, there is no way I could get a new phone without being very careful about how I get it or lose the unlimited from Verizon. I may have to call upon you in the future about this, if you don't mind, Sherri. Keeping your post to remember this. What is this Edge plan stuff, girl? :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
How to install and maintain CM11 for a good running phone

Wow, that is an awful lot of issues for one fellow to deal with. I know exactly what you are going through, Meneldur. "Been there, done that" for almost the entire CM11 build cycle, until about 6-8 weeks ago when I blew the LTE chip in the phone and had to use insurance to get a replacement. Since I now have a clean, "brand new" phone, this time I can do my rom differently and manage it right. Myself and my phone are not "perfect" but I am pretty darned close and a LOT better than before when I was doing what you are doing, trying to "fix the phone" by micromanaging it through various Xposed Modules and system tweaks. I also used to "Let the phone run wild" by installing everything and anything and letting it go, syncing, updating, slowly choking itself to death. I do not have much of this issue anymore. I had to "change the way I use and run the phone". And the way I think about it, what runs and what doesn't.

CM11 build 10/30 was a bad build, I reported it and at least one or more members confirmed BSOD issues. Build 11/01 is quite good so far after 24 hours, BTW.

Alright, so what are you doing wrong and what is it that I am doing right. That is your question, no? :confused:

EDIT:

Since creating and maintaining a good, comprehensive Guide to installing and maintaining cm11 on your phone is a LOT of work and too much for more than one post, I have relocated the Guide to another page where it will be in a post of it's own and constantly kept up to date. Below is the link, please bookmark it and there is a downloadable pdf version of the guild for you to have and keep.

Guide: CM11 Performance and Maintenance on XDA Developers

Thank you! :)

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Casper, don't "guess" please. You could be onto something, but to prove it we need facts, not guesses. When you get a chance, go into recovery, tap Boot Options then Stock Slot. Read the actual partition names, sizes, and amount free, and write the thee items down. Then come back and report them. That would really help a lot. To help others, sometimes we "actually have to work", meaning to get your stock partition sizes, space used, and space free, you actually have to "go look" and post the results.

I do stuff like this a lot and yes it is a PITA, but that is what it takes to sit at The Help Desk. :D

Thank you my Daniel! :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] SimpTheChimp:
Yep, I am on the 11/01 build; but unlike your experience this build has been a disaster! Horribly laggy, 50% or more of the times when turning on the phone results in a black screen (which either never comes back or I have to turn it on and off multiple times), and a few instances where I had to simply hard-boot the phone! (I.E. Hold the power button down till it turns itself off)

Ugh, all I know is that it is driving me nuts - like one of the other guys said, there have been a couple of ROM builds recently that were really stable and never gave a problem - but to me there seems to be more 'bad' ones than good ones.

I see there is an 11/02 out now but looking at the change log - it just didn't seem to be worth it to upgrade to this one - not anything relevent.

Well let me see if I can figure out this thing with the pictures - in any case, though, you got the base numbers. And like you, nothing stood out to me saying 'this is the low memory that is causing the insufficient memory errors'... So I'm kinda stuck too.

-Tom
[Motorola Droid RAZR] scottgti:
I hope you're wrong as well. I don't have unlimited data anymore, so WiFi hotspot doesn't mean much anymore to me. I'm still going to use my RAZR as a remote control for my Chromecast, so I'll be around.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
To be honest, I see absolutely no point in upgrading, trading in your old phone that you paid for, and loosing unlimited data (if you still have it). I will never upgrade unless I can keep my old phone and unlimited. After all, the fun of having an old phone is to be able to do whatever you want with it, root, custom ROMs, themes, ext. So, I guess you all now know this man's opinion.

To all who upgraded to the DROID TURBO, I'm am glad you got a great upgrade, but always remember,

what IDon't DROID DOES.

Thanks,

Bob
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Bob I am so with you on this. Verizon put this worm out there to get everyone's attention and is not giving them a lot of time to think it over. Without a doubt this OS has been gone over with a fine toothed comb to make absolutely sure there is no possible way for and exploit to slip through that would unlock the boot-loader, allow root, and everything that comes after that. Not to mention dump as many unlimited data users they have because this phone at this price will generate a new contract that will void anything you had in the previous contract.

VZW is pretty slick with this new device offer, buy I, for one, am not biting! :eek:

EDIT:

BTW, I really do care about all of the members of this thread. You are all very decent people and individuals I would be pleased to call "friends". So in an effort to assist those who have already taken the Turbo Upgrade, I am posting the XDA Droid Turbo Root Thread for you to subscribe to in the event that a root exploit is ever found.

"Good luck friends. Should you or any of your IM Force be caught or killed, The Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your existence." LOL! :laugh:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
I really took your post as your frequent thorough and helpful articles you have us accustomed to. :)

I'll then restart clean to avoid blaming CM11 of this behavior. What's the newest build you suggest?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] d.casper.b:
Yes, here you go.

On my stock slot, my values are as follows:

System: 770MB (231MB Free)

Data: 3834MB (2019MB Free)

Cache: 708MB (691MB Free)

I don't think this really helps though. Maybe it is still of some value to someone.

I can only really suggest [MENTION=1128585]SimpTheChimp[/MENTION] increases his data partition size (backup, remove some large apps, and try installing other apps). It is not a solution, merely a suggestion. In solving any technical issue, one first needs to sift through all possibilities, so that you are no longer looking in the wrong direction. And I know that sometimes we tend to ignore what's right in front of us. Just because it seems unlikely, doesn't mean it is unlikely.

Generated on a RAZR Maxx (XT910) using XDA's free mobile app.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
The lollipop source code is now in ASOP!!! I can't wait to see Cm12.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Me too bra. It is so hard to imagine. CM11 is not even stable yet and still we look forward to "CM12". Imagine that! :D

Are we being presumptuous? :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
When they switched from 10 to 11 I don't think that 10 was stable... maybe they continued to work on if for a bit after or did they just abandon it. Maybe my memory is bad who knows. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
CM10 was worked on up until February Second 2014, at least that is when the Stable build was released for the RAZR.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
CM12, CyanogenMod, and Android L, AKA "Lollipop"

Nice to meet you, Leet.

Thanks for the PM explaining your handle. LOL, that is pretty neat, I like it! :D

* This post is WAY too long. Shortening to get to the point.

For me it was CM10 stable, CM10.1 stable, CM10.2 stable, then CM11. Because I was so new at romming, I wouldn't touch anything not stable except cm11, because that was the only update game in town. I do not remember dates but I think that [MENTION=5711114]Bobcus Leper[/MENTION] already has that information posted for us. Way to go, Bob!

I heard this from Michael, our developer. This is why you do not see much of him, he is working very hard behind the scenes not only to do the cm11 work, but to make it possible to have it on our Razrs. He did not actually post this as indicated in the quote below, it came in a personal email. BTW: Read the orange URL in the quote below. This is some very interesting stuff from the horse's mouth about CyanogenMod's plans for the CM12 release. Does not look like our OMAP4 devices will be in the initial build release due to the selinux support, the locked bootloader, and the recovery option, but read the quote too, as you can see, we have a dedicated developer determined to make it happen for us. I sure would love to see it happen.

Can you guys *believe* this? To do this, Michael will not only have to keep pace with his cm11 work, but also work on CM12 Android L, and then have to re-write Safe Strap and binary blobs to accommodate this. I wonder if Hashcode is sharing the Safe Strap source code w/him? I cannot even imagine someone so dedicated to even try this without pay, but Stargo is a very determined individual. When he sets out do get something done, rarely, if ever, does he give up. :eek:

I hope we get the Lollipop system for our phones. But not expecting that to be soon. Now I see that [MENTION=5057697]welder73[/MENTION] has made a very interesting post below this one with a link about the new Android L system and it is NOT making me very happy. Sounds like Google is selling out to Big Corporate and will throw the entire rooting, romming, and modding community under the bus. :(

-Paul
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
You are absolutely correct. Not sure why we can't seem to ever get a stable build. My guess is the exact same thing will happen with CM12. We will never get a stable CM11 or CM12. We are forced into being beta testers; seemingly forever. To make matters worse CM doesn't accept bug reports on nightlies, so I'm mystified how they know which issues/features/bugs to focus their development efforts.

Getting just a bit frustrated with the whole situation.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] welder73:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/

Sent from my Razr XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
...oh, wow. I don't know where you found this Welder, but it is a very recent XDA notice and I believe it. Looks like my next "upgrade" is going to be a Nexus, and I have no clue what they are like. Thanks for posting this, it gives me something to look into now. Good looking out! :good:

:( ...oh this really bites, man!

EDIT:

Checked into this and it is not as bad as it sounds. The selinux and encryption really is for user security. Many use the phone for purchases and security has to be tight if one uses the phone as "a credit card". Companies like VZW/Motorola are really anti-root but not everyone is like this. Late, tired, bed. Just wanted to give some good news, my source is solid. 'night!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
[MENTION=5362796]Dwillian[/MENTION] you have been here about as long as I have. I was like you and Meneldur, constantly frustrated with my phone. It

never

ran good for almost 10 months. Black screens, lag, force closed apps, orange icons, and slow as a snail. And I complained a lot like both of you are now. A certain "few" individuals "never have an issue, almost every build is great, and runs smooth and fast, like butta". Baloney! Either they are lying or I really am missing something. The common answer I got was "Go clean", "Go clean" and within a week, after restoring my apps, contacts, modules, and files, my phone would be back in the same boat. I was really missing, "something".

I spent months asking questions to specific people with "the good running phones" about how they run their phones, what they install, what configs they use, what modules they use, and overall, how do they do it? I got a LOT of really good answers, all similar, but quite different. DumbleCore is one guy who really does have a Speedy Gonzales phone and his really does "always work". But his efforts are extraordinary. He strips everything from the phone that is not necessary to "have a phone". All apps and services not required go. NO synch of any kind. NO automatic updates. And he actually modifies the rom zip files in Winzip prior to installing them by removing everything he does not want so it never gets installed. I do not have that sort of skill and patience and called his strategy, "Scorched Earth" because by removing and disabling EVERYTHING, the device has nothing better to do than "be a phone". So I took a mix of all the strategies and came up with the guild I wrote. I really, really do this stuff, all of it, in this order.

Know what? My phone runs great. It is always ready, is as fast as you can expect a Droid Razr can be, no black screens, no more lag, no orange, no issues at all since the 10/16 update, except for 10/30, that was a bad rom. You can do the same thing. I wrote a checklist guide to help Meneldur. He is very experienced and is apparently missing something. Perhaps this checklist will help him find out what he is missing. Or at least give him a procedure to try. I wrote it for total newbies but it will work for anyone. This is what helped me get my phone back on track. You did not ask for help so I cannot give what you do not want. But if you want to look it over, the post is here. Don't take offense at the title nor the "newbie" tone to the guide. You have been here a long time. Hope this helps.

How to install and maintain CM11 for a good running phone

EDIT:

Thanks for the Dwillian Dump procedure. I like it and think it is great for certain situations. I have used it successfully twice and have helped at least one other member with it. Nice tip, thanks buddy!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Bobcus Leper:
Looks like we may never have a "Stable" CM11 ROM.

http://www.gadgtspot.com/2014/10/31/roundtable-cyanogenmod-12-roadmap-leaked-fun-times-ahead/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
Looks like we probably wont get CM12 either.