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[Motorola Droid RAZR] jeff_roey:
Battery was $27.85 at Newegg. You can find it HERE. It's a perfect fit. Still wanting to cycle it a few times before providing an assessment of performance. Went to bed last night fully charged, woke up this morning, checked batt stats and saw a drain of 1.8%/hour which is in-line with what I would've expected. I need a couple more days and full discharges before determining if it was worth it.

Honestly, taking the back cover off and replacing the battery wasn't as much of a PITA as I expected. I shreaded my bezel and knowing what I know now, I'm not sure it needs to come off first like all of the videos instruct you to do. Don't know if the results would've been different but the screw below it is really for the sub frame and not the cover. It looks as if you might be able to lift the cover and bezel off together or at the very least, lift the cover off and have better access to "nurse" the bezel off and better preserve it.

I've attached a few more pix and also added some to this thread. I scratched my head more about removing the sub frame than any other piece. The lesson learned is the wedge point for the sub-frame was actually much closer to the screen than I initially thought. In other words it was thicker than I expected so I found myself digging in when trying to pry it off against itself instead of where I should've been. Look at the sub-frame in the 2095 pic.

Like mentioned elsewhere, the battery was stuck like Kragle (if you haven't seen The Lego Movie like 100 times like I have w my kids, you won't get that ref). I used a thin metal scale (ruler) to gently and slowly pry it free. And of course, the battery terminals sit under an extension of the sub-frame that's unique to the XT912. The configuration is slightly different on the 910 and about 99 percent of the removal info on the web shows the 910 sub-frame. The 2089 pic shows the 'terminal cover' so-to-speak unique to the 912 - it's the shiny part of the plastic above the 3 empty screw holes in the pic.

I was initially worried about the notch - something else unique to this sub-frame but there was no interference with the battery whatsoever. if there were, its just molded plastic so it could've been cut back but no need to do so.

Got me WRT the pic and thumbnails in the post. I just click on the paperclip in the reply panel and attach the pic. The rest is PFM :o

Edit: Added the 2089 pic I referred to above that shows the unique characteristic of the 912 sub-frame/bezel. Sorry for leaving that off originally.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] krestian:
Thank you for the report. Is this batt only for the MAXX or will it fit inside the regular RaZR case as well?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jeff_roey:
Not 100 percent sure. I did size it up to my stock battery and even measured the thickness with a caliper. Overall profile had exactly the same footprint (length and width) as my stock battery. The thickness of the new battery measured 0.175 inches thick. It was actually a little thinner than my slightly puffy stock EB40. I think the standard RAZR comes w an EB20. I don't know exactly how thick that is.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] archie1988:
Regular razr comes with eb20 battery. If you want to put battery of razr maxx (eb40), you have yo buy new back battery cover and (recomended) razr's maxx battery bazel. [emoji6]

There is a thread about converting RAZR to RAZR MAXX
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
ok s would this battery and video not work ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMG8uvlG6Yc takedown

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2680mAh-Ext..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item417ee2cd47

Just wondering.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
[MENTION=3302486]Decon1[/MENTION] mentioned that MMS was working on the 8/21 LS, so I thought I would give it a try and see if the camcorder worked there too...

One big bust! MMS stuck on sending forever, even after toggling airplane mode and rechecking network settings. Camcorder looks/acts identical to cm, still won't pick up audio unless you shout!

Thanks to serendipity, I saw some more interesting data while booting back to cm... Battery levels.

LiquidSmooth on slot one= 50%

SafeStrap= 35%

CM11 8/20=34%

I DID run Battery Calibration from the market (the one by NéMa) on cm earlier today... Is it that simple? Anyone else seeing vast differences between ROMs/SafeStrap?

And am I really the only one seeing an unusable camcorder? I feel like I dropped a stone down a big hole and never heard it hit. On here, I mean...

-Brian

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] googlesstepchild:
Slot 1 - CM11 20140820 68%

Slot 2 - CM11 M9 99%

Stock - Stock JB 100%

SS 99%

Slot 1 is my daily driver and is accurate, its been off the charger all day.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jeff_roey:
I'm on 8/20 and video recorder seems to be working fine for me. Can't say I've ever had a problem with video recorder with any nightly.

I have never gotten agreement between battery levels reported by the CM 11 ROM, the Stock ROM, and SS. Most times SS will report 99% or something completely erroneous.

My current battery stats are making me laugh. So, new 4000 MaH battery. I've been trying to run my phone as dead as I can before recharging it and I'm patiently waiting for my phone to die . . . it just doesn't want to. Look at the pix. Saw a steady decline for 14+ hours. Nothing unusual happening and after about 14 hours my battery level was at 1%. Works out to be an average of about 7% per hour - a little high but a new cell could explain that.

The thing is that was a over 7 hours ago. I've been sitting at 1 percent for over 7 hours and I'm interested to see how long it'll be until the thing dies. I guess a battery calibration is due eventually :)

There is a cliff in the pix but that's actually when I backed out of the ROM and installed 8/20 from SS. Forgot about it for about 20 mins or so before rebooting the phone and I think that's what I'm seeing there.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] googlesstepchild:
jeff_roey - don't ever let your battery drain completely. I did and mine died. Had to make a factory cable in order to bring it back to life. What a learning experience that was. Don't believe any of the crap about calibrating the battery by letting it drain completely. The best method to achieve good calibration and also prolong the life of the battery is to turn the phone off while charging. This helps reduce the amount of heat while charging. It's heat that causes the battery to die sooner.

Cheers
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jeff_roey:
[MENTION=1807728]brkahughes[/MENTION]: Does your camera problem persist after you clear the app data? I remember reading something about camera problems going away after clearing its data in settings > apps. Curious, does the problem persist with another camera like Google Camera from the market?

BTW: over 15 hours on 1% battery. :laugh: I'm going to push my luck to the 16 hour mark and then recharge. regardless of what the meter says, that'll make it over 31 hours on this single charge.

EDIT: Phone finally shutdown today at 2:42 pm. That made it 35 hours from full charge to empty (~2.8%/HR discharge rate). Of that 35 hours, my battery meter reported 1% for the last 18.5 hours of it. Curious if anyone else has run their device to shutdown recently and how long they sat at 1%.

Oh, and I just need to remind myself why I'm positing all of this battery stuff here and not in a general battery thread: because a lot of this discussion came out of us questioning whether the big cliffs we were seeing in battery consumption were failing cells or CM11 software calibration-type issues. I'm thinking it's a little bit of both.

8.20 Nightly and stock kernel with XPosed installed for Ex-Themer[KK] and XBlast Tools.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] my2cents:
8/23/14 Report

I was having some sleeping issues with 8/20, but so far I have not seen any issues with 8/23. I haven't test the video camera yet, but things seem pretty smooth. It's nice that the Verizon APN is now fixed too! Thanks CM team! :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Thanks for the report. The changelog on 08/23 is kind of big. Sometimes that means trouble, sometimes not. Great job on letting us in on the initial test, 2¢! :good:

EDIT:

Oh hey, this APN thing has been such a problem for so long that I don't even know what to tell people anymore. Can you give us an update in a couple of day on how that is working, 2¢? You are the perfect test subject as you have had this issue, like, forever. Thanks buddy!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] LordGarth:
My Razr finally bit the dust after much abuse by me (fully working except screen is blank after a 6 foot drop from the top of my fridge to a tile floor). I've been holding out for the iphone 6 and unfortunately timing being what it is, Murphy struck at the most inopportune time. I did find a refurb Razr Maxx on ebay and with this rom is so close to being perfected pared with excellent support form people like Ohmster, it was a no-brainer to just order that one and perhaps I'll be good until the iphone 7 or Android macaroon comes out!

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I wonder if the community would benefit from an outstanding issues sticky on CM11 for XT912. I know the devs don't want bug reports for nightlies but it would be great to see currently resolved and outstanding issues solely for the benefit of us end users.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
6" drop? Ouch! That's pretty bad, dude. :(

iPhone? Really? That means you become an Apple Head or Jail Break the phone and then, I have no clue what pot of gold awaits you. Get something good like the new Galaxy or the "macaroni thing" you want. ;)

...unless, you are a Mac user. In that case, go for the iPhone, cannot help you much there buddy.

We sometimes get bugs fixed though a developer that we know personally, But you know, cm11 is a "Full Fledged OS" with all the bells and whistles. It is not "Slim CM" or anything like that. Still in development, not a single stable release as of yet, nor would I expect it so soon. You see the change logs? 8/23 is huge! And that is typical. We will get there, sooner or later. Then maybe the devs can trim off some of the fat and make this thing a little more lean and mean. You get the opportunity to be an early user and have what most other people do not. I do not believe you get much of that for an iPhone but I could be mistaken. Jobs has locked down "All things Apple" pretty good.

Thanks for the compliments. A new Razr from the net should be cheap enough to hold you over. And who knows, maybe we will get a stable release in the upcoming months. Maybe not right away, but we sure are on a fast track! :D

ATTN Brian Huges:

Hey, I cannot find app data or the apk for the cm11 camera. But, if you have Titanium Backup installed, you are in luck. From there, you can wipe your data if you wish to try that. You can uninstall it too if you want. I have a TiBu backup from it, app & data, for you on my Dropbox. Import it from inside of TiBu menu, install app only if you want to try reinstalling it. Worth a shot, here ya go:

CM11 Camera v2.0.002 Titanium Backup File

Read other post about the camera, Bri. TTYL, my chicken pot pie is calling my name! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
Dang i was excited for a minute........

Installed the 8/23 nightly i am running cm on my stock slot after install and restoring all my apps i tried mms . it sent and received really fast i was like awesome. Then i rebooted and tried again . Now i haven't got the no apn error but its been sending for 15 minutes so i deleted that message disconnected from wifi to make sure it was using lte and sent another one at 9:02 my time if it ever sends ill update this post. if it hasn't sent by the time i get out of church ill wipe dalvik and cache and try again that always fixed it on the past releases.

edit: ok so i couldn't wait after 15 minutes more no go so i rebooted wiped dalvik and cache and started back up sent right away just like the first time and i expect it will till i reboot again.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] my2cents:
Two questions. Are you using the stock messaging app? If so, have you tried clearing the app data? You will lose messages if you do that, but it might help.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
I installed 08/23 last night and it took me a reboot or two for the new OS to "settle down" a bit and become usable. After that, it worked really well. Snappy, fast, nice. But for me, the real test is what happens the next morning after coming off charge. Phone woke right up, made a phone call, all good. Picked it up 20 minutes later and I cannot get the screen to light up again. Rebooting. I will use it today and if good, keep using it.

These reports might sound like old news sometimes, but we do have developers peeking in here. They may not have time to address every post, but they do gather information about the current state of the builds from us, that makes this stuff important. I have black screen problems a lot, so this is not news to me. But it does give the devs some kind of feedback as to what is going on with us, the "GP". (General Population using it.)

Phone rebooted and seems nice again. Snappy and fast. Lights right right up. ...wish it would stay that way. :(
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
yeah used stock app and ......

Yeah i used stock app and hangouts cleared data for both still loose mms after reboot. I dont get the no apn error message anymore it just sends for ever. when it works it sends mms really fast thats how i know if after 10-15 seconds its not sent then it aint going. wiping dalvik and cache is only way to fix it . I tried the reset to default in the apn list and all none of those work for me but good news is when i wipe dalvik and cache it works until i reboot again so just clearing dalvik and cache on every reboot and all is good.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] my2cents:
Man, I am running out of ideas...

What is your preferred network set as? I use CDMA+LTE/EVDO

What is your CDMA subscription set as? I use RUIM/SIM

Are you in a good service area? I know when I am in a bad service area i have problems sending MMS.

Have you tried wiping Android Secure from recovery too? If not, you might give that a try.

If none of that works, you might need to flash stock JB and try again. Maybe there is something wrong with your radio file or something??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
OK just changed to ruin/sim let me reboot and try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
I use GO SMS Pro for all my text messages and have yet to experience a problem with it. The free one, not the pay one. Been using it for years because I like the features. Just sent and received several text messages so I know it is working. Not sure if it will help you, just reporting what I see. :p
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
My2cents woooohoooo that did it subscription change worked sent MMS rebooted 3 times sent one every time all good thanks so much.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Go to /Settings/Mobile Networks/Access Point Names, tap 3 dot menu, Reset to default and see if that does anything. Please report. Thanks. :good:

EDIT:

Stargo is back from a month long workshop and have a lot of messages to reply to with him. So APN still an issue, black screen and sluggish for me. Anyone else? Will be replying tonight. Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
Maybe nobody else sees this, but I have gone clean, new slots, new stock flash: stock jellybean camcorder picks up all kinds of audio, room noise, everything, you can practically whisper

; CM camcorder with me standing eight feet in front of the phone - you can't make out my voice it's so quiet. And before you think I'm just soft spoken, I've done my share of sidewalk and tent preaching! Never needed an amplifier yet...

Try recording on both then play them back, you should see what I mean. I have seen this on two different phones: one phone on 6/23 and one on 8/20. I've also seen the problem on Axxion ROM, which is cm-based.

-Brian

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drewski_1:
on Carbon i see the soft volume on the Google Camera Video (PA GApps add-on), though it works fine on my tablets with CM11 & Carbon.

doesn't seem to be a general CM issue so maybe some kind of Razr driver thing?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
That's what I'm talking about my friend, and you are confirming my worst fears... The dreaded MOTOROLA BLOB! I fear it is a hardware driver thing, either a level problem or not using the right mic when recording. And I'm afraid the problem is buried in the closed binary code, just like the audio prompt over Bluetooth was: Stargo, oh Staaargooo! He was the man to find a fix for that with his audio wrapper, I only hope he can do it again!

Welcome back [MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION], we've missed you!

-Brian

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!

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And why is it my lot to find these virtually unnoticed, irksome little bugs??!

-Brian

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iamteachme:
changing to ruin/sim ........

changing to ruin/sim fixed it permanent bro i didnt have to do the reset to defaults.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Awesome! :D

I had to go back and thank 2¢ for that tidbit of information. So it worked for you and you are all set? This is good news as this question comes up all the time. Thanks for the feedback teachme! :highfive:

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Yah know, I am really trying to help out here and it is frustrating. :silly:

I did post a test video in a previous post using the cm11 camera on my Razr phone. Seemed okay, not "so very low" audio, but okay to me. Now this stuff about different devices so I did another test video on my CM11 Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet. Same setup, same test. Me shooting a 30 second test clip with audio from the TV station on desktop PC monitor #2. It did sound a bit "softer" on the phone. Not "horrible lower", just a bit softer.

So, what I really want is a VU meter comparison. Lacking a professional VU Meter audio tester, I improvised. I loaded both video files, same scene, same setup, into Sony Sound Forge 10 audio editor. Sound Forge is really an audio editor, not a video editor, but it will extract the audio with an amplitude waveform below a time graph of the video in picture format. The results are quite startling. I did not really have to test any further, the screenshot should show all you need to see.

In this screenshot, the top waveform is the Droid Razr Maxx video camera.

The bottom waveform is the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. Notice the amplitude of the waveforms.

The Samsung is clearly almost twice the amplitude of the Razr phone camera.

Samsung CM11 build 08/23 is roughly about -5dB

Razr Phone CM11 build 08/23 is is roughly -2 to -3 dB, higher in audio channel #2 by about 1dB

This is hardly a proven scientific test but it does backup what I hear. Samsung camera records audio almost twice as loud. 3dB in any direction is "twice the volume you hear". So the Razr is not quite ½ as loud, but is pretty close.

Although the video file formats differ slightly, mp4 on the Razr and 3gp on the Samsung, the codecs used are the same. Video Codec: MPEG-4 Audio Codec: AAC

Phone does 1080p, Tablet does 720p. Codecs used are the same.

[IMG="cm11 camera audio comparisons"]http://home.comcast.net/~theohmster/image/CM11_VideoRecorderVU.jpg[/IMG]

Since drewski made the comment it can be different on the same cm11 rom on different devices, this is something I can test. Confirmed. Can't help you with it, but

Confirmed

. :silly:

EDIT:

Attaching image file in case you cannot see this well on your screen.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
Thank you [MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION] for the "audiophile" approach with the waveform levels.... That's what I'm referring to, believe me, shooting "wild sound", especially outdoors, that's enough to put your audio way down in the mud!

And does anyone else think it strange that one stereo channel would be lower than the other when the phone is recording monaural through one microphone? Definitely looks like something is rotten in the binary interface routines.

-Brian

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] rgerrans:
I think I may have finally fixed the lag / slow wakeup on mine. After I almost bricked my phone last week I had to go back to Matt's Utility and start from scratch with a clean install. Since then everything has been running nice and smooth. Been on 8/20 for the last four days with minimal lag and slow wakeups and much better battery life - though was mostly on wifi so can't 100% compare to my normal usage. It's a time sink but if you haven't done a clean install in a while it may be time....[Though standard disclaimer of no promises that it will help.....]

Still running into orange signals and seems even worse since the latest apn update...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Oh man, this is exactly what I was thinking and a good way to fix the phone, hopefully. But, like you said, a lot of work. I think I will try a fresh install (When I get the time which could be never.) and then not load it up with anything in the way of apps and modules, right away. Just use it as a "phone" and check performance. If it runs good, smooth, and fast, then make a backup (Of course!) and slowly add my things, one at a time, and try it out. When it begins to bog down, STOP and take it back out!

This is a very helpful post to me, rgerrans. I have been thinking about this for several weeks, just did not want to "try it" before I know it will work. Same like the guys changing batteries. They did what they believed would work, and who would doubt it? Laptop batteries last about 2 years and then are worth nothing. Why not the phone? They are the same kind of battery. Although it gave them new batteries, it did not solve the cm11 eats batteries problem. I am sure thankful that * somebody* did it, just glad it was not me to find out. Ripping open a Razr phone is NOT for the faint of heart. Especially with your fingernails! LOL! :laugh:

Good looking out, I appreciate the tip! Thanks. :good:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] morr22066:
XT912 CDMA Spyder / RAZR

I'm on the 8-24-14 nightly and the system settings are force closing. I tried reflashing, clearing cache, dalvic, secure and fixing permissions but I'm still having the problem. I then downloaded the 8-24-14 PAC ROM and it is also having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem ?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
No, that is why a lot of us wait for someone else to install and post a build report. I am still on 08/23 and was thinking of taking the update. I would have if no one else did. 08/23 is giving me more black screen issues than the rom before it so I decided to stick with it a while.

What build did you update from? I always make backups so I can revert in case a rom is bad. Do you have any recent Safe Strap backups, Morr?

Wow, I have way too many backups. Time to delete about 12Gb of them right now. Changelog on 08/24 is not that big, does not look that scary.

Since I have a backup, I will flash it and see how bad. But, my phone is not running too well, bogged down and black screen issues. Been too long since I have gone fresh, and I always make the mistake of restoring everything I had before even trying it out. That is not good. Next time I will go light and test each app before adding more. Thus, my results may not be as good as someone with a clean phone. (OMG, I just utterly dread the idea of starting over, but it really is the right idea to do so.)

I am flashing it now, OTA.

EDIT:

Just flashed 08/24 and this really is not too bad at all. Very little in the changelog to warrant suspicion, however, the one before it, 08/23 was a BIG update and they do lend trouble sometimes. 08/23 was rough, it took 2 reboots just to get the system stable and useable again. Now I have worse black screens on 08/23, but I have a very bogged down phone anyway. I really don't know how well a rom is until the next day anyway. Did you come from 08/23, morr?