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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Alright, so that is two out of three questions answered. My own battery report is attached, System Settings, Battery. Nice graph to look at. Hmmm, voice calls 43%, Android OS 12%, and Screen only 11%. That almost does support your claim but much of this time, the screen has not been lit, it blacks out for calls so time on phone talking does not make screen time. Your quotes of screen v.s. Android consumption is similar to mine. 11% screen, 12% OS. Slightly higher. Maybe you did not have your screen on as much.

Bear in mind, these percentages are for what "has used the battery so far", NOT for the total battery power available for a full charge. Otherwise your phone would be dead in 5 hours at the rates shown by your report.

I got 74% left on my battery, have used the phone quite a bit this morning with medical calls and Comcast technical calls (Still cannot receive home calls almost 3 months after opening the phone account.). So I was on the phone "A LOT" during those 4 hours. Unless I really "heavy hit" the voice calls, this battery will last until bedtime. 3 more hours on call time and I will be looking for a car charger well before bedtime. I do not expect to use that much more time, although it is unlimited. Calls consume a LOT of power to broadcast to cell towers, opposed to a slight ping to local towers when not making calls. Also we get constant pings and update through phone data.

My phone will last until I go to bed, midnight let's say, which is close to ten hours away. How many hours, or "what time off charger until what time by the time the phone is 5% or dead"? The phone itself will last for days, calls and lit screen will make it discharge a LOT faster. This is by past experience, I have not actually "timed" Android on CM11 to see how long a dark phone will take to die. Also based upon the fact that everything else is the same.

For me, "Normal" is the phone to last all day until bedtime, unless I talk 4 hours or more per day, OR if I install something really cool and cannot stop playing with it, thus keeping the screen on most of the day. That is the bad thing about a Razr. At least with the Droid X, I could carry another battery if I had a LOT of talking to do. So car charger is next best thing. This goes back to the Droix X and has nothing to do with CM11. Are you comparing this to an iPhone? Because I cannot tell you anything about Apple products other than I do not like them.

So, in conclusion, are you getting all day on one battery and if not, are you talking 4 or more hours per day?

That is what I consider "Normal" for this XT912. Anyone care to dispute and if so, are you using battery saving measures, if so, what kind?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Steven87:
[MENTION=4245858]Ohmster[/MENTION]: What xposed modules do you use to improve battery and performance ??
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dwillian:
Looks like the code has been cracked for providing HDMI output capability to CM11 for OMAP devices like our Droid Razrs. Yay!!!

This is one feature that I have missed since moving to non-JellyBean based Roms like CM11. I'm hoping this won't be too difficult to include in one of the upcoming nightlies.

See https://plus.google.com/104392970202116059854/posts/BquPVbnxHyr
[Motorola Droid RAZR] snowcraig:
Yep, that is why I asked here. I just want something stable for the wife's phone, and given that I am already running CM on my Nexus, I was wondering if M4 was fairly stable for those who have used it here.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Well, you were right. M4 might be stable, but will for sure lack the improvements we all come to love and depend on. It was just announced that HDMI will work. So you can plug your phone into your Hi Def TV and enjoy it. We have improvements in SMS messages. This stuff you will not get in M4. Anybody here might try it for a day or two, but they will not stick with it. Miss out on too much that way. If wifey does not need advanced features, I would venture to say yes. M4 was barely mentioned in this thread for that reason. I don't think it will crash and burn, try it. Or go stock, that WILL be stable. Best wishes! :fingers-crossed:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
I stand corrected.

I just went into it with Semilakd, stated the battery life on CM11 is same or near same as stock, pretty much. It is now 7:45 PM. At 2:14 I posted my battery stats at 74% after 4 hours use. Now I am below 20%, just a sliver on the battery icon. I won't make the night without a brief charge. Thank goodness that this phone charges pretty quickly.

I don't know how to say things in few words, I do beg your pardon, folks.

I will not go so far as to say that "Android consumes a lot of battery." This is an Android phone, always was. Up to Kit Kat, any Android phone would slow down so bad in two years to "require an expensive update or new contract". This phone cost $600 retail and it still costs that much, not kidding! Kit Kat seems to be using more battery than Jellybean, ICS, Gingerbread, or anything previous. But the payoff is very significant, this phone has an entire new life, fast as greased lightning. The aggressive memory management alone solves all the previous OS version slowdowns. "Kit Kat saves $600 Phone", is it worth a slightly higher battery drain? Uh, yah.

No one is taking into account that this is still a "NIGHTLY" build. When it becomes Stable, then Release Candidate, and finally Release, this issue may already be addressed.

Yes, I am finding myself plugging into a charger before I lay me down to sleep often. Is this a very big deal now? I would not say so. Battery drain may be as much as 25% more right now, but this can be worked out in later builds, posting about it helps spread the word. And there are tweaking methods I am not bothering to employ, due to the constant updating of nightly builds.

Hey if I am wrong, I will admit it. But this slight increase in battery drain I would not exactly call a "deal breaker". Not yet by a long shot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
Anyone on 3/16 and their camera app force close right upon opening?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
I had that same problem when doing a clean install. I ended up installing 3/14 and dirty flashing 3/16 over it right away. That fixed the camera force closing issue, and it fixed the video recording issue that was present.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
3/17 fixes the video/camera problems

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
Does 3/17 allow the enabling of the Navigation Bar?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Good man. Love these reports! Hey Jake, what do you use JBX for? I like it, it is a very good kernel, but another layer of complexity for me right now. The only reason to use it is to trick out your phone. That is cool. I don't need lots of details, but what do you like about and use in the JBX kernel?

OC? Battery saver? Custom CPU settings? Any particular governor that you use and like? Trickster is almost useless w/out JBX, so what do you like and use it for? Just looking for experienced person's tips. I like the 1300 MHz OC and battery friend. You? Give us some tips please! :D
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
jake, do you dirty flash or do you do a clean flash every single time?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
Yeah, I am wondering this as well. Stock kernel works fine for me, I suppose? I'm not really a "power" user so to speak (customizing how much power the CPU uses, etc.), so knowing the benefits would be nice to know.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
anyone try 3/18 yet? if so, hows it running?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] my2cents:
I dirty flashed over 3/17. I haven't noticed any problems that aren't normal. Like Verizon app issues and HDMI. i guess HDMI is coming very soon! i would say go for it.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
just dirrrrrty flashed 3/18 myself!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Gosh I hate that word "Dirty Flash" for an OTA update. OTAs are meant to be updates. They contain scripts that do all of the cache wiping for you and the install is legitimate. Verizon does not call it's updates "Dirty Flashes" and we shouldn't either. The CM11 devs really outdid themselves on this new Kit Kat OS. The incorporated OTA updates directly into the ROM because they work. True, we are on the bleeding edge and some OTAs just will not cut it. Take 03/13 for example. Trashed the phone, had to wipe and reinstall something else.

This has nothing to do with Chinkster. If you have a rom on the phone and you *know* you have to wipe and install fresh, ignore it, and flash anyway. THAT is a dirty flash. Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't. But folks, do not get it in your head that an OTA update is a "Dirty Flash". It isn't. It is what you are supposed to do. The failure rate for OTA updates on an unstable but very well developed rom with OTA built in is for sure higher than a Release rom. But that is part of the game. You play bleeding edge, you get cut, ...sometimes.

Chinkster did not say or do anything wrong. But the proper question is "Did you do an update or do a clean install". Nothing "dirty" about it. Dirty is flashing is flashing anyway over something you know has to or should go first.

...just a correction of speech. When you say "dirty flash", that in no way means did an OTA update. Rock on folks. You all make this a very friendly and terrific place to be! :victory:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
I like JBX for the 1300 oc and extra tweaks through aroma. Very solid for me.

I use ktoonservative and VR which is the fastest scheduler IMO. I use all tweaks in the aroma installer and it works great.

I dirty flash always with just cache wipes and permission fixes in between. Only clean flash is when I jump release paths (very rare) or when android version jumps (periodically)

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
This is my battery consumption on 0315 and JBX. Too many apps?

I'll try 0318 tomorrow

Meneldur @ XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
for those that don't use the JBX kernal and only use whatever comes on the nightly, do you feel that the phone lags sometimes? like sometimes it takes a second or a few to register your swipes on your homescreen or opening an app?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Noe!:
Yes, the phone does lag on me sometimes.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Yes. This has always been an issue with Android since brand new. It gets worse as apps update and glom more memory. CM11 is the first release of Android to kick that memory management issue square in the pants, successfully. You think you have lags now, think back to Jellybean or ICS. Phone was practically useless in the 2nd year. Successfully install CM11 and the wait is usually minor and *nothing* like previous versions.

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I like it too for the same reasons. That 1300 OC is awesome and only in use when necessary. Dam, I miss it already. But those governor names like ktoonservative and VR are not the LEAST bit intuitive. You read a manual on that terminology or something?

Can't thank you twice for the same post formally, but both are very much for real. Thank you!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Nah not sure with the naming. Just tested them all and found that to be the most stable and quick combo. Though I did want to correct something you said earlier. You said you like JBX for OC and battery friend and unfortunately this is a misnomer as when Battery friend is enabled you cannot OC. It only allows one or the other. :cool:

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Mickyvai:
On 3/18 camera force closes everytime I try to engage the video recording

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] sonicshaman:
Same
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Aximander:
As far as dirty vs clean install or flash....

If it isn't a clean install then it is a dirty install. Stock OTAs are dirty by that terminology. Doesn't mean it is bad or wrong. Since the term is used widely in this manner we can't just change it for this forum. Others that come from other forums or threads would get confused.

I understand what Ohm is saying but we didn't invent the term.

On governors...

I am pretty sure there is a link on the first post for jbx that leads to descriptions of them. It isn't all that helpful but it is a start.

I also think that the dev said the ones done by the flash are the best overall for battery and responsiveness (konservative and vr I think) . Change them only if you want more of one over the other.

Phone lag..

CM is better than stock. Kitkat seems to do much better with memory management. Kitkat won't be coming to our razr via Verizon or Motorola.

Even my wife asked me to "hack" her droid 4 since it took forever to do anything on it. That's got to be bad if she does that :P

Sent by my Razr, from the mothership

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video FC for me as well :(

Sent by my Razr, from the mothership
[Motorola Droid RAZR] jmsmeltzer2000:
On 3/18...... FC camera issue also
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Aximander:
Btw my camera works.... Video doesn't

Sent by my Razr, from the mothership
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
I can confirm the camera bug on 3-18 flashing 3-19 now I will let you know if I have any problems.

EDIT: 3-19 fixes the video recording issue with the camera. BTW I used CyanDelta to update my rom OTA.

Verizon app still needs the fix that I posted on the CM forums http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/89718-iccid-unknown/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GTiceman:
3/19 via dirty flash over 3/17 for me

Stable so far but Hangouts seems to still be missing group mms
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
Mine seems to have it although I haven't tried it. The option group mms is selected under options.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Mickyvai:
I confirm that the video recording works very well on 3/19.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] kundalus:
Unable to get gsm data on xt912. Anyone has got solution to this....?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GTiceman:
Under Settings then SMS you see the group option in 3/19? Mine isn't there and I deleted and reinstalled
[Motorola Droid RAZR] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
what version of Gapps are you using?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GTiceman:
Can't find my file. I am downloading the newest mini modular version now.

Still no luck
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chinkster:
Anyone else on 3/19 still have problems with the orange bars?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Aximander:
Not yet, but it's only been an hour so far :)

Sent by my Razr, from the mothership
[Motorola Droid RAZR] zero66:
Looks like HDMI for omap in next nightly
[Motorola Droid RAZR] GTiceman:
So i have Group MMS in the stock app but not Hangouts

pa_gapps-modular-mini-4.4.2-20140316-signed.zip is what I am on
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
You are right, it is either or, cannot have both at the same time. But Trickster without JBX really does not amount to much. It is just those crazy governor names. Like, who the heck knows what they mean?

The OC is awesome, but, as others have pointed out, this rom is eating probably 25% more battery. That is not a deal breaker, the trade off is worth it. Besides, stuff like battery life get addressed later on. But OC and JBX would probably glue me to a charger. Dam, it is so sweet, too!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
With my maxx overclock on JBX I get about 18hrs. Does me just fine.

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Hey, that's pretty good! Do you like, actually "talk" on the thing? Hours, approximately. 2? 4? 6 or more? Could be my phone is old, batteries do not last forever and this battery is not exactly replaceable. I got a hairline crack on the digitizer face and insurance. When I get the extra C note, I will swap it out.

Don't make sense, you get 18 hours and I get 8 or 10. Other than I talk more or my battery is old. :confused:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Batteries do age. I also disable GPS and WiFi when I am not using them. Mostly text not usually more then 1 hour call but I surf web and use fb and YouTube all the time. I also calibrate after very flash. Might be placebo but seems to work for me.

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Ahhhhh! So you *are* taking battery preservation measures! This is what I was trying to tell the others in my ususal "way too long" post. Anything that requires broadcast power consumes a LOT of battery power. Now yesterday, I logged over 4 hours voice time. I am not simply acting as an antenna, picking up signals broadcast to me, now I am the broadcaster and I need the "watts of power" to broadcast that conversation. BIG battery user. Text is little more than a ping, it is so short as to consume little power. Data reception like You Tube and Netflix also require little power, other than to light the screen, because you are receiving, not broadcasting.

(Jake, I am not telling this for your sake, I am sure you are aware of this. But for others, still trying to figure out what takes so much battery power.)

Same thing I said before, GPS and WiFi, both must broadcast to get their job done. By the way, it is now 9:41 PM and I am at 76% battery, I only talked for about 40 minutes tops, probably less than 30. Actually, GPS is a receiver, not a broadcaster. However, you *are* now running another highly amplified antenna circuit, but nothing like broadcasting.

Us having these public conversations I think is helpful. Remember when I asked what you like and use jbx for? There were a bunch of "me too" questions that followed. Hah! You did get me though, I did not make it clear that OC and battery friend could NOT be used at the same time. :laugh:

Just FYI, I am a lifelong electronic tech. I understand component level everything. Watts, voltage, resistance, ohms, amps, watts, power. Graduated 3.9 in '82 so I do have a background in electronics, just not Android OS, although it is a stripped down version of Linux. Linux and Android are cool because unlike Apple and Microsoft, anyone can dig into the guts of it and make it do anything they want, providing they have the experience. CM could never do this with a Windows or iPhone.

I really do like talking to you man. Take care. :good:

* All you folks with the battery questions, I hope that you are paying attention! :victory:

Update:

12:33 AM, next day. Battery level 70%. Total talk time w/Bluetooth headset, less than one hour, no WiFi.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Always here and willing to help! :D

DROID RAZR MAXX CM 11 JBX KERNEL
[Motorola Droid RAZR] soundgirl101:
:good::cool::highfive: Our devs are the best!! dtrail1's latest (experimental) JBX provides HDMI output, working on CM11 03/19!! CM11 nightlies changelog shows some potential HDMI support as well!! Woohoo!! :cool::highfive:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JakeDHS07:
Yes tomorrow's nightly will include ROM side HDMI support. Use that in companion with newest JBX that supports HDMI for best results. Very exciting. We now have all stock features from my understanding working on the newest android version with much cm features and tweaks integrated already. Only gets smoother from here ladies and gentlemen. :)

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] brkahughes:
Ohmster;

Than you for helping to clear up some of the battery consumption questions for the less technically minded. The only things I might add are that using WiFi whenever available saves an enormous amount, since even the "passive" apps like YouTube use a large amount of data, and the reception of data over the cellular network involves a large amount of two way communication, thus necessitating transmitting from the phone. On the same note, even when you think you are doing nothing, your phone is in constant communication with a cell tower: (phone: hello, who can hear me? Tower(s): I hear you. Am I the strongest signal you hear? Phone: Oh, there you are, I pick you.; etc. etc.) This is why your battery will die faster in a poor cell area, even when you're not talking... It has to shout louder to be heard by the nearest tower.

Sent from my continually born again RAZR MAXX!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vasanthtt:
same with me
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sonicshaman:
Arrgh, phone constantly lost service with latest. Would come back very briefly with reboot. Tried to go back a day, now camera fc.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Meneldur:
Waiting for 0319 and HDMI breakthrough, yesterday 0318 consumed 22%/hr only with sync active. I follow this thread's advise and others regarding battery life: Greenify, turn off GPS, WiFi and sync when not used, almost zero talk time, only Whatsapp, Twitter, some Facebook.

Still can't lower consumption to one digit and sustain it. Right now it's at ~10%.

Last night reflashed radio to Canadian's Roger, which gave me better battery life than stock radio firmware on AOKP. But it didn't improve. I partly blame crappy mobile service (remember I live on the always struggling Argentina), but there may be something more.

Ohmster, glad to read you. I'm an Electronics Tech too, graduated from high school on 1994.

Meneldur @ XT910
[Motorola Droid RAZR] vanwho:
I have been away from CM11 for a while now due to all of the issues everyone is having with camera and battery life. I have been on LiquidSmooth 0311 build since it came out. It must have a different kernel or something, because I get great battery life. Even with wifi on all day, it goes into deep sleep, and barely touches the battery. Not trying to pull anyone away from CM, just stating what I have going on vs CM. I have no issues with anything right now on that build. Strong signal that does not drop, camera works, great battery life. It goes along with all of the conversations on here that the kernel means everything to battery life. It may cause other issues changing the kernel though.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Markos96:
For just being a test build, it is REALLY good. No problems with data, camera, SD card, anything really. Running very smooth and nice. Thanks a lot!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DRIPSTER1:
Verizon is the proverbial pain in the butt
[Motorola Droid RAZR] anticor248:
With JBX 4.4 kernel, Everything is working fine, And I ınstalled xperia Z1 theme made it awsome :) I just ınstalled first 4.4 JBX kernel on slot 2 and after İnstall rom and Gapps :)

YOu can download xperiaZ1theme from here : http://www75.zippyshare.com/v/42095992/file.html

Screenshot with xperia Z1 theme
[Motorola Droid RAZR] fujcru:
ddmclw, you can try my suggestion. I have a Verizon CDMA XT912 and have not had any trouble with MMS. I think I also have a stronger connection due to my modification. Basically, I have merged the stock APN's with that from CM11. It's hard to be absolutely certain that this is working as I think it is since the APN settings are locked out, but when I use this merged APN file on other ROM's, it always grabs my merged APN which is basically the APN settings as they were provided by Verizon so it should be the best settings.

First, boot into your stock ROM and see what APN you are connecting to. In particular, pay attention to the mcc and mnc. If your phone is like mine, the mcc is 311 and the mnc is 480. If your APN is different from mine, you'll have to manually merge your Stock APN's with the ones from CM11. However, if your APN is the same as mine, you can just grab my merged file.

Assuming your APN was the same as mine, you can follow these instructions to get the new APN's on your phone and working.

Grab my merged file: apns-conf.xml

Replace the APN file in CM11. It's located at: \system\etc\apns-conf.xml

Edit the build.prop file: \system\build.prop

Replace ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=310004 with ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric=311480

You should now be able to dirty flash your modified ROM and reflash gapps, do the cache and davlik cache wipes, and hopefully your phone will reboot being able to send and receive MMS.

Good luck!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dtrail1:
I found my new preferred launcher! Never seen another launcher which is that customizable. It's called "Themer" (BETA)

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] anticor248:
Looks cool. I had tryed ıt before but it is so complicate :) and now I can try again :good: