[Motorola Droid RAZR] Ohmster:
Casper! How nice to see you again my friend. It is so darned quiet in here that I really miss the flurry of activity. ...you are installing the "Full Package"? Wow, what then, you uninstall stuff like Google Earth that you will never use on a Razr and eat so much space? Nice to hear from you again, Daniel. :)

[MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION] is right, TKruzze was providing "0 Day Gapps". Zero Day is a pretty significant term online, it means the most up to date, just released software. But on a Razr phone, or any phone really, 0 day isn't really important. The phone is online 24/7 and Play Store has "Auto Update" checked by default, IIRC. So, the idea is to get a set of Google Apps on your phone that you like, want, and need. Great thing are the various size packages available. Once gapps are installed, they "go to work", checking and updating your app collection.

So in real life, how important really, is it to have the very most up to date Google App installed on your phone at the time you flash the zip?

Everything is going to immediately begin to update as soon as you boot to system and connect to your carrier. Unless, like me, you turn off automatic updates and do it manually, on your own time schedule, like at bedtime on the charger. Even with auto-update turned off, you will be getting status bar notices that "Google+ update available", "Titanium Backup update available". Tapping any one of these messages takes you right to the Play Store, My Apps. Right there you see the list of apps that need updating. You can update one or two, or tap "Update All". If the list is medium to considerable, I do it overnight. Tapping Play Store icon, menu, My Apps gives you the same list.

[MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION] made both a nice convenience for rooted Android owners and a never ending headache of a job for himself, having to constantly troll the Google servers to get the most up to date apps, then package them into the nice multiple size package sets such as nano, micro, mini, full, etc. What was the big one called, "Kitchen Sink"? LOL! :laugh: Not to mention finding servers to host all of these pa-gapps and his hosting list was "extensive". Pulling the plug shut down ½ the Internet for gapps! A lot of people are annoyed that he pulled the plug instead of leaving them up for a while, no longer maintained. That probably would have caused more problems as Android L matures, phones get more powerful, and apps are forever gobbling more system resources.

I am curious, why are we getting gapps packs from individual developers anyway and not from Google itself? How come Google does not release gapps packs or if they do, where are they? Is it because they do not openly support rooted phones and take for granted your phone comes with gapps already on the blur rom that came with the phone?

I often have trouble getting to sleep and post late, [MENTION=1472623]d.casper.b[/MENTION] so I did not notice immediately that one of the links was a year old. But really, even that package would work fine, but you would have a heck of a lot of updating to do at reboot time. I wish there were cataloged sets of gapps from each month available for the past few years. Very new and up to date apps are not always a good thing. I have at least two apps that I *never* update. RoboForm Password Manager and Go SMS Pro. The new RoboForm just does not work and Go SMS Pro v6 stinks, everyone hates it. Several versions of Maps were actually NOT better than the ones before it. Features were removed, etc.

I am not a "Know It All" so I do not have all the answers. But these are great discussion points and everyone is invited to participate. When a lot of people put their heads and experience together, we get the best results. Besides, I would love to see some active discussion in here. I miss all you guys. ;)

When I get time and am bored, I will backup my wonderful 11/07 install and then "Dwillian Dump" to the same rom with a generic gapps package to see how it works out. I swear, [MENTION=5362796]Dwillian[/MENTION] will always be a hero in my heart for that fantastic method of wiping system on a manual update because it allows you to do almost anything you want and keep your system settinigs and data. The infamous "Dwillian Dump" is a fabulous procedure. Thank you Dwillian! :D

I do want to push cm11 to stock and after 2 months of nothing, it is looking more and more like what we have is what we got so far as cm11 goes. Ending cm11 development also put Tonyt. out of business, he cannot pump out new AOKP roms for Kit Kat anymore without new cm11 builds. So, it looks like "It is what it is" and I might have to get off my lazy butt and

push my trusty 11/07 cm11 rom to stock

. I swear,

I have run this rom for months and never had a rom fault.

Any issues were always app related. Gosh, I haven't backed up this rom for a month because it runs so good, no need to reboot it. I am doing it now, especially with all of the recent updates.

Thank goodness for [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] who is making his pa-gapps collection available online. I just went to have another look at it and man, this guy went ALL OUT with 4 pages of links to various collections! I just looked at his parent page, sd_shadow's [Collection] of Links: /Alt site, and man, the guy has 30 pages of links to just about all things Android! I had to bookmark his downloads and now will explore them. Shadow is a deadly serious contributor.

We really owe sd_shadow a debt of gratitude.

:highfive:

What this thread needs and what I need to update the online Guide is a reliable source or working gapps to use when installing CM11. Those who find and use a new source for gapps that works well is encouraged to please post the URL and any information they find relevant. Thanks! :good: