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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ANTHONY81L:
i started with the htc evo(original) , then galaxy s2, s3 , then the htc one .. traded that for an s4 and kinda got bored of android for a while so i found someone on craigslist with a great condition iphone 5 and traded him my s4 .. i liked it. than i got the iphone 5s the 1st week it dropped and i gotta tell you i really liked it alot . i been running ios 7 since the first developers beta all the way to 7.1 the latest and i jailbroke it and customized the hell out of it and even tho its considered blasphemy around here the truth is it was a great device. smooth , extremely fluent , best build quality phone ive ever owned , best reception ive ever had on a phone. loved the imessage/sms app . i traded it for a mint condition note 3 bc i missed my samsung after a while and i missed the size but in all honesty the 8mp on the 5s took better, clearer pictures and video than my note does with its 13mp shooter. not saying your an iphone hater im just speaking in general but i find it so stupid when people say screw iphone or screw android. its not like they work for them . they arent part of your crew, they dont even know those people exist. most people that say screw another phone probably havent even used one or played with one before. why be loyal to technology? if someone makes a great product and its right for you than you should get it. if iphones were around the 5inch mark and came with something like an s-pen i dont know if i would stick with android or not. sorry for the long reply just thinking and writing lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
Valid points. Build quality is Samsung's largest shortcoming, and apple's strongest point, so it makes sense that build quality alone creates converts.

I disagree with you on the camera comment. 4k video? Are you kidding lol.

And Apple is releasing a 5.5" phablet with a pen this fall. But my phone is 5.7". That has true multitasking.

I don't think I could ever convert for those reasons alone. And the amoled screen. Because when it comes to build quality, I put a case on all of my devices so it's not something that I'm exposed to on a daily basis.

If you were thinking about the apple phablet, don't forget about the note 4 this fall as well. It's going to have at the minimum, a 2k screen, possibly 64 bit architecture (With enough RAM to make it useful...cough iphone 5s), along with a 16mp iso cell camera, industry-leading GPU/CPU and hopefully yet another step up in build quality.

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I just don't like much about Apple. How they allowed that patent to disable your phone and it's camera (see: Protest? ). Social media is our voice. Because newsleaders are controlled by someone not themselves. But I did find joy when I read that Samsung paid one lawsuit that Apple had won in pennies. Dump trucks full of pennies :D maybe they'll make a copper-colored iphone...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Guardsix:
Back on Topic - When is KitKat Coming?

I would just like to update my Note 3, so when is Verizon going to deliver an OTA so I can do that?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
No one knows. Because Verizon enjoys being known as the slowest to release updates. Impressive!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] toolskater:
Its supposedly out for ATT today so we are getting closer
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Silenus21:
Yeah we are getting closer because we are last.

How sad are we.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
I always thought it took Verizon forever because they had the most adware to tie in and prevent people from uninstalling, features to turn off and disable, insane data compression routines to program in so call quality was crap but didn't stress their networks, and upload limits while on LTE to enforce.

? :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nviz22:
Does VZW have the most bloat? I gave my dad my VZW Note 3 for his AT&T one and I made the right move since I got 4.4 first, no offense to you all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] platinumrims:
On a side note.... I want the note 4... Surely it will come with kitkat -__-

-this just in, Verizon to release the note 4 jellybean -__- lol I'm done
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sbergman27:
In Google's time-space continuum, Kit Kat is ancient. GN4 will probably come with Kit Kat +1 or Kit Kat + 2. Can't have people getting too used to a release version without changing everything on them for reasons which are less than clear.

I know engineers. They *love* to change things.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] brianburen:
All the Verizon community sites are down. Hmm could they be uploading the kit kat releae?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] polo2883:
And like always Verizon will be the last to get 4.4. AT&T is getting now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ronaldheld:
What is OS expect to be by the release of the N4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xHoLyx:
Most likely with 4.5 code-named Lion Bar or Lolipop, but it's just speculation.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I don't think it would shut down the whole webiste. Unless I'm unaware things happened like that now a days

Sent From My Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] emtownsend:
So, if I paid off my Edge contract on my Note 3, would Verizon be required to unlock my bootloader under that nebulous law that says carriers must unlock phones? Maybe then KitKat would be available to me! :rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SirBindy:
You're misunderstanding what unlocking means in that situation.

They would NOT unlock the bootloader. The law you're referring to requires them to CARRIER unlock the phone. The Note 3 is carrier unlocked by default, anyway. You can use it on any carrier that uses the same bands. You'll gain nothing for paying off your Edge contract early.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] emtownsend:
Rats!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sloanster:
That is correct...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tada10:
So glad its not here yet. I don't want to break all my freedom with 4.3. ?

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] K20Z1:
So the sprint Galaxy Note 3 got another KitKat update today adding wifi calling. Awesome Verizon. I think what it must be is that they are really adding some serious stuff here, wifi calling, hd voice, a fix for the wifi unstable notification, a fix for 3rd party accessories, a fix for the SD card issue, a fix for laggy wake locks, a fix for every other possible bug known to man and of course adding that lovely bloatware. But it's OK because they test things so rigorously, it's going to be a perfect build! Can't wait, I know it'll be perfect! Why else would it take soooooooo long to get this KitKat update out right? :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
WIFI CALLING?!?!?!?!?!? I WANT!!!!!!! :( Verizon is doing everything it can to make sure I leave.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] lmike6453:
Those particular bugs are probably not carrier specific, so I would think that...

a) Verizon's development and Q&A teams suck, and they need to figure out the bugs that have obviously already been figured out by Sprint + others

b) They're holding back the update because something Verizon specific isn't working, like maybe crappy My Verizon app(s)

All possible scenarios that I can think of points toward me dumping Verizon for ATT
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MrCapcom:
Envy you guys who can say oh ill just leave verizon smh my Note 3 is my work phone so ill be forever on Verizon smh
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] fletch33:
i could leave whenever as i never go under contract BUT i wont. it would have to get really ugly before i did. as much as they can irritate me i have used T-Mob, Sprint, and ATT, on trial basis and they just dont get the coverage that Verizon offers when i travel in the US. there is a lot to complain about with them but in the end its about calls and data connection and all my friends on other providers complain about those things and drop calls when talking to me and so its Verizon i stick with.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MrCapcom:
I actually feel like it was better when I was on Tmobile with my Note 3 than with Verizon Note 3. Speeds were faster only thing I noticed different with Verizon is that I can get signal under ground when on the Train but other than that I don't notice the blazing speeds like when I had them maybe 2 years ago. Maybe more users vs TMobile but Tmobile LTE seemed faster
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] fletch33:
in the Mid-West (Ohio/Ky area) i can not travel between major cities or even go to their outer areas without dropping to 3G and often E when i use TMob. i have to assume its not like this everywhere but in my area TMob is only good for people who stay in town.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ronaldheld:
I speculate that the time between kit kat coming to the N3 and the release of the N4 will not be too long.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
Yep. I drove to Iowa for vacation last summer. I had LTE all the way to my grandpa's farm in north eastern Iowa from CA. 4 bars of LTE in farmland Iowa. Just insane. Helps me stomach the fact that I'm paying quite a bit more than most people for my cellular plan....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shiftr182:
Well, my wifes Verizon G2 is running Kitkat now..... while Im still waiting
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Janker5050:
WTF Verizon......talk about dragging your feet.....I could see them the update being denied because it broke some of Verizon ad or bloatware....My friend works for Verizon testing devices and software before it comes out....He tests it for about a month the submits a report and detailed write up...He has seen many updates and actual phones be denied and sent back due to verizon features not working properly. .He has not heard anything come down the pipelines yet on the note 3 update...but it doesn't mean it isn't there ....

Sent from my VZW Note3..ha..ha..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KachowPow:
This is an insult, the HTC One Max is getting KitKat before we are,,, check this out, wtf!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Southern_mind:
I personally don't understand why it's taking so long to release the update to the note 3 or the s4. When i think all other carrier versions have it already. Wondering if it's Verizon or Samsung holding off on it until after the S5 is available.

Sent from my VZW Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xSyKo:
I don't see how the biggest carrier for the US could neglect such a flagship device like this. We should have been one of the first to get kitkat- I really miss my s3 now....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shiftr182:
I'm jumping ship and going to the Verizon lg g2. I want a device that can be unlocked, flash aosp, kernels, etc, and 4.4 ota has been leaked for it. I think I'm done with Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cigarman29:
Maybe because Verizon thinks because there service is "better" they dont have to concern themselves with after sales support :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
This is the rumor I'm hearing around the intranets. I guess we have to wait for S5 release. Some genius thought that made sense.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Borderpatrol1987:
Of course, cause if they make us wait forever, well buy a new phone on their edge program and they make more money.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Southern_mind:
The dumb HTC One Max just got an official kit kat. And it came out months after. Come on Verizon you strait up suck. Times like this and the bootloader is when i wish t-mobile had a decent network. I can't make a call from my house in Charlotte NC if using T-Mobile.

Sent from my VZW Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jamor414:
ew I had t-mobile in college and it was a nightmare
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rjacosta:
I sort of don't mind Verizon delaying kit kat update as long as bugs are minimal when it does release!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] speedfreak228:
This should piss some off lol. Even this crap phone has kit Kat

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-ace-style-366002/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
I wonder if KitKat is taking so long on this phone because it has an SD Card? This is my first phone with an SD Card since many many many years. I use FolderMount to offload about 6-10GB of static data to the SD Card - gigs of pics, Economist magazines, 4GB of Google Play books, and gigs of Google cached music.

I'm reading that it just takes a simple hack to open the SD card up again on 4.4.2. But losing SD card access won't kill me. I have 23GB of free space on internal memory. Just makes no sense not to use the 64GB SD card imo. :)

Seeing how many problems my Nexus 7 had with 4.4 - I'm glad they're waiting. 4.4.2 is still kinda buggy and nowhere near the battery life of 4.3 (on my Nexus 7). My Moto X was ruined by 4.4 (bluetooth volume went to max no matter what you did, battery life was cut in half, etc...).

I just read this today - what do you guys think of this?

http://www.thewestsidestory.net/2014/04/04/samsung-galaxy-s4-note-3-get-android-kitkat-4-4-3-update/

So we might just get 4.4.3?

Edit: Meanwhile, I'm in no rush - happily running Eclipse Rom. Never thought I'd be this happy rooted...

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I had T-Mobile in high school (99-2003) and yes... those of us with Verizon know we're getting raped... but at least we're getting something while being raped (better than average reception, network speed, etc...) which is why we stick with Verizon - for now.

lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] P2o8wer:
I jumped ship to the HTC one m8 and it's unlocked and s off already. With a permanent root. This phone is smaller in size but the build quality alone is worth the switch of the daily driver.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Southern_mind:
Thoughts on the camera?

Sent from my VZW Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] FrostyOrDie:
I have made the switch to the m8 as well. Because of the bootloader mainly. Not huge fan of touchwiz so thought I'd try sense again. Definitely some cool features on this. Camera is probly better on the note 3 thought. And I miss the size of note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TheLoonyRebel:
Honestly if the delay on getting Kit Kat is due to waiting for 4.4.3 then I am perfectly fine with that. I can wait a bit longer. No rush.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
I just wish build quality and removable battery could coincide on one device. Note 4??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] K20Z1:
I bet this whole delay is on Verizon wanting to release the Galaxy S5 first, allow others to be out for awhile and then release a 4.4.2 update for the Note 3. I doubt they are going to be nice enough to make us wait and then give us an updated KitKat 4.4.3. I would imagine that there will be a day one update for the Galaxy S5 tomorrow, that Verizon has put to the front instead of the Note 3, then they will probably push an update a few days later for the Note and then the S5 will probably be the first Samsung phone on Verizon to get the 4.4.3 update in a few months. Then maybe Verizon could be the first to push it for the Note 3 on all carriers. Probably not, but it never hurts to wish.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Slovedon:
Verizon Note 3? Which ROM?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tpike:
Very logical...from what my corporate rep and local store are telling me, preorders are slow on the s5. Kind of sad they feel the need to give away a free phone with the purchase of the latest and greatest phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Harleydroid:
Oh wow that's really old man.

Here's Eclipse rom. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=49673452

Tapped via my Blacked out Eclipsed Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Less ram. Nothing special added. I see no reason to go from GS4 or N3 to Gs5. N3 was huge upgrade. This isn't. Now if you really want them to sell offer an option to unlock the bootloader at your own risk!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
Now there's an idea...

The main difference that stands out to me in the Snapdragon 801 SoC is the reduced power draw and new power management chip. You should see moderately better battery life. That's about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Doesn't my note 3 have a bigger battery?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
Yup, by 400MAh. It balances out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
So the Droid DNA is getting 4.4.2. lol. I swear my next phone is going to be a Nexus phone. I shouldn't have to root my phone to make it usable and remove adware on a device I buy. Sucks cuz Verizon has the best reception where I live.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rogerwalker22:
I swear to jeebus! I just made the switch from Sprint to Verizon about a year ago. Went from The DNA to the Note 3 when it was released and I have never in my life seen it take so damn long to get an update! I too wish that Verizon didn't rule all when it comes to service.... SMDH!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] slowz3r:
Any way to get tap to pay working
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
Verizon note 2, s4 and s3 have kitkat now. Wtf
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Jweimn:
The Verizon s4 had tap to pay included in its update so who knows we may get it in the update
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nlghtcrawler:
Quick question, is their any benefits to waiting for the latest OTA or should I go ahead and jump ship rooting installing safestrap and reading a ton of information to install 4.4.2?

Would it be possible to go back to complete stock to take OTA's ever again?

Currently I'm on stock 4.3 and unrooted since my first note 3 went **** & I had to send that one back. I'm just cautious to void my warrenty if I'm not able to get back to stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
I was under the impression that Google only wanted tap to pay working on kitkat
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Jweimn:
Yea they do. The Verizon s4 got the kitkat update
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sh0cka33:
I believe the answer is yes. There wouldn't be countless discussions about how to NOT trip the Knox counter if they hadn't planned to go back to stock at some point.

You should root it and install kitkat yourself. You will be getting the same experience minus all the bloat (that runs in the background) which is most certainly going to hamper the increase in speed we will see from kitkats robust software engineering.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chewwy420:
Where did you see that the Verizon S3 got KK??? Cause that is incorrect!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nlghtcrawler:
So after a TON of reading and relearning this whole process again, I haven't been flashing ROM's since my old OG note1

Just wanted to say thanks to XDA for the great tutorials and information everyone has posted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
I was in the same boat but what I did was root, install safestrap 3.65 (stable) and installed hyperdrive in slot 1. I also downloaded the deodex leak and firmware but I'm waiting a while to install it. When safestrap is able to create safe working slots in kitkat I may switch... But I may not. Clearly there are things to be gained by kitkat but also things to lose. None are major but mje works perfectly for me so at this point I see no reason to change. I did want to root before the official update because I waited in my moto razr maxx hd and after its jb update no new root method was ever found.

Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Borderpatrol1987:
See this post as to why it doesn't work.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52210306
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nlghtcrawler:
Bluetooth on 4.4.2

So the main reason I was wanting this update so much was in 4.3 I was having a lot of Bluetooth issues. First off being my Beats Studio Wireless headphones would randomly disconnect if I would change the track on the lockscreen or if I used the poweramp widget to change tracks. The only way around this was to use androids Built-in music player, which kinda sucked.

Also I was having issues with Chevy's Mylink system in my 2013 Camaro 1LT. With 4.3 I was having serious metadata issues where track info wouldn't always be updated when the track was changed from the phone or the cars steering wheel buttons. Also the track time (on the car's screen) wouldn't update with the track, it would could to only count to 3 then back to 0:00 / x:xx

So I've been on 4.4.2 for about a day and so far these issues were fixed and are working great. Very happy with this update thanks everyone your guys's help
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] aldouse:
How's the GPS lock for you? I'm hearing the GPS lock is still faster on 4.3 vs 4.4.2?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] K20Z1:
Yea so far just the S4 has KitKat. However, today the S3 on Verizon got an update build nc1 to roam on Telus. The Sprint S3 should be getting the KitKat update soon. It was posted on Samsung open resource website the other day. The Note 2 got KitKat in France, Verizon prolly won't push until August or something close to that if it follows the Verizon Note 3 schedule.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] fletch33:
ditto. i didnt realize all the features i didnt have in my truck until 4.4.2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] slowz3r:
Can we root right from 4.4.2 yet or are we still needing to go to the downgrade method?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Harleydroid:
Yes the only way to get root on 4.4.2 is currently having root on 4.3 and flashing the 4.4.2 build in JB Safestrap and flashing the firmware in odin.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nlghtcrawler:
I don't know if this has been mentioned before but I've noticed that WiFi has been running with 100% on-time I was wondering if their is a fix for this?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
Settings --> Wifi --> Menu ---> Advanced --> "Always allow scanning"

Uncheck that if you want WiFi to turn off when you have it off.

Google has this feature on so they can use location services for known WiFi hotspots (even if you don't connect to them) while you're traveling.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nlghtcrawler:
Thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thedon781978:
note 3 kitkat issue

so i switched to kitkat almost immediately. I stuck with the original rom by beans and it worked great for a few hours. then it starts to lag, phone gets hot and battery drains. its fixable with a restart or battery pull but i have to do this every day. so i flashed hyperdrive rom hoping this would help. same issue. then i switched to biggins ROM and still same issues. has anybody else had this problem? or does anyone know of an app that may be causing this? I have some time off from work soon and i may try to start over and just add an app a day until i figure out what is causing this problem. any ideas or help would be much appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] fletch33:
i know what you are talking about and on NC4 Stock Root Jasmine 1.1.1 i have not had those issues at all. he is about to release 2.0 and it should only get better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thedon781978:
Thank you. I was starting to think that I'm the only one having these issues. I've been a little nervous about making the switch to nc4 because I read somewhere that you cannot go back to jelly bean.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] imperialrobert:
root note 3

I'm sorry for asking this question, I'm kinda new to this and can't find any way of rooting this phone. Can someone tell me how to root the Verizon note 3 that has all ready been updated to kick at 4.4.2 ? I have t-mobile and can't use 4g lte without root. Please help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] donc113:
At this time, there is no way to root a stock 4.4.2 phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thedon781978:
made the switch to nc4

And my phone works so much better. not sure what was affecting my note 3 on nc2 but i've been going for 24 hours now and i haven't had to restart and not having any lag. the jasmine ROM seems to work well although limited but still allows you to go back to nc2 or mje.