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[Nexus 5 General] Ken C:
Call this a general curiosity type question ?. How much do y'all think these benchmark scores relate to actual real life usages? I've applied the optimizations haven't run any tests, but the phone does seem faster. And I could swear with the flash disabled the camera takes pics allot faster than before. I running a stock N5 with exposed tweaks.
[Nexus 5 General] v3rk:
You will feel a difference vs the stock libraries, but among the different optimized libraries differences will only be found in benchmarks.
[Nexus 5 General] simonarturo:
Take a look at the right side of the screen. Where it says "Most thanked in this thread". #1 is the post with the G3 files
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53538968

I get 41k. Benchmark properly, and take it to the benchmark thread.

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OP hasn't posted anything in a while.. :silly:
[Nexus 5 General] hepi_hape:
Yep.. I findimg G3 bionic until last page not on OP :/

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Sory silly question. Is all compatible CM rom only with any kernel ?

Last ask,

What defferent old oneplus dalvick with newer one ? Is just update / totaly deffernt
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Not exactly sure what you're trying to ask.
[Nexus 5 General] Ken C:
Probably what I'm curious about. Wether any of these are kernel or rom specific?

At least that's what part of it sounds like to me except I think he's mentioning cm as the specific rom.

Or I could be totally off and he wants to know if he can have fries ? instead of the coleslaw ?
[Nexus 5 General] Haidary.T:
Use old dalvik because the newer ones are causing bigger incompatibility issues. The kernels do not influence whether these work or not. No, they do not all work with CM. That's about all I understood xD
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Which Dalvik works on which ROM and why

Kernel is unrelated.

Certain ROMs have certain commits which stop some Dalvik libs from booting. E.g. "speed up boot on multicore devices" commit stops some AOSP Dalvik from working (usually only full/partial CAF ROMs have this anyways).

Any Dalvik derived from a CAF based ROM (OnePlus One, CM) will only work on a CAF ROM (regardless if full CAF or hybrid AOSP+CAF), such as Mahdi (partial), CM (full)

Any Dalvik that comes from an AOSP base (such as Z2, M8, MotoX, and regardless of any OEM skins) will work on any AOSP/stock based ROM such as stock ROM, Rastakat, ParanoidAndroid, Cataclysm, etc

LG G3 Dalvik is weird and doesn't boot on anything we know of so far.

Bionic should work on any ROM regardless and there hasn't been a single incompatibility with them as far as we know (only on KK, may have issues with "L", I don't care for it at this point and neither should you)

Of course, it's more complicated than this, but this is the general, simplified trend, and it seems to have been consistent so far.

Edit: Regarding CM11 Themes and Paranoid Android

Edit2: Carbon moved to a 100% CAF/CM base rather than being hybrid AOSP+CAF, so I had to modify my example. Doesn't change what works on it since they were already using CM11's Dalvik anyways.
[Nexus 5 General] Ken C:
@ Lethargy thank you, very informative response, greatly appreciated
[Nexus 5 General] gustavo4520:
What is the best dalvik/bionic for stock 4.4.4?
[Nexus 5 General] Haidary.T:
Z2 dalvik + LG G3 bionic.
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
For those claiming that the LG G3 bionic is in the OP, would you care to share the link!
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
It isn't in the OP, its in one of my previous posts. Search for it or look back a few posts, I don't want to constantly have to link it and it's not that hard to find if you tried.

No one has claimed that its in the OP either.
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
No drama, thanks for the heads up BUT wouldn't it be sensible to have it in OP with the rest??

Cheers
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
I'm not the OP, and the actual OP hasn't posted anything in two weeks
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
For those looking for the LG G3 dalvik/bionic, here you go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53538968 ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Its been linked every other page lol
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
Oh well, now we have another link ;)

Is it safe to flash the G3 bionic straight over the top of the G2 bionic? Or is it safer to revert first?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Doesn't matter but wipe cache + Dalvik
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
Sorry I meant over the top of Z2 bionic, lol...
[Nexus 5 General] Edge330:
This thing doesnt work on ART?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Dalvik obviously doesn't if you're using ART. Bionic still will.
[Nexus 5 General] Ken C:
All I did was search Lethargy's name and it showed up
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
and here's your trophie [emoji471] ;)
[Nexus 5 General] MidnightDevil:
What's the difference between flashing just bionic? Do I need to flash dalvik as well?
[Nexus 5 General] Ofthecats:
Read the original post
[Nexus 5 General] gustavo4520:
Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] gustavo4520:
Better
[Nexus 5 General] Edge330:
Guys what you think is better, ART or Z2 dalvik?
[Nexus 5 General] David Guite:
Will it make any difference if i forgot to wipe cache/dalvik??
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
BEST ;) (Z2 DALVIK/G3 BIONIC) STOCK ROM + FRANCO KERNEL R55
[Nexus 5 General] David Guite:
I flashed z2 dalvik+g3 bionic yesterday but i forgot to wipe cache/dalvik and was using the phone as usual. Recently i found out that i must wipe cache/dalvik so i go to my recovery and reflashed the dalvik and bionic and wipe cache/dalvik.So, will i gain anything from the dalvik/bionic?? Or should i flash the stock one and redo it again??
[Nexus 5 General] occtec:
All good, just let it be, let it be ;)
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
you NEVER have to wipe dalvik or cache. and when you flash a ROM, it automatically wipes dalvik and cache. but for these patches, you do not ever have to wipe.

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trinity kernel/lichtis rastakat, z2 bionic, at 2419mhz.. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Brushstroke:
This made no discernable difference at all. Running stock 4.4.4 with ElementalX kernel and Xposed.
[Nexus 5 General] Ken C:
? lol....
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Don't post benchmark results here, there's a separate thread for that. You're not scoring that high, so no need to show everyone here lol ;)
[Nexus 5 General] whoamigriffiths:
Yeah, that simms22 needs to try harder too :P
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] likes to show off :silly:

Enough of the off topic lol.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
na, it wasn't about showing off, at least not how you think. I felt like the person who I quoted was showing off a little to the person he quoted, so I intervened. while I do show off on occasion, I always follow my showing off by explaining/teaching others how to get to the point I got. I never show off just to show off, unless I'm in a group of friends just having some fun, then I might tease a little :)
[Nexus 5 General] der_sascha:
what sould i flashe when i am on latest AOSPAL (Paranoid SaberDroid) ?
[Nexus 5 General] Rxpert:
Likely none, or you'll lose part of your linaro optimizations
[Nexus 5 General] SimoRunde:
What Dalvik library I can use with AOKP?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
"Linaro" is useless.

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Trial and error
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
mostly, yes. but not always. sometimes it has its benefits.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
How's battery life on that?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Battery life is almost the same in any ROM and/or kernel. I find it extremely silly when people claim one will give significantly better battery life than another. Also you're posting a question that is irrelevant to the thread.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
apologies mate, didn't realise this was a thread with no tolerance for slight OT :)
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
[MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] is right. kernel doesn't make a difference. what makes a difference is how you use your phone, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much the quality of your phone/data connection.

anyways, since i am who i am, you asked a question and you will get an answer. with the way that I use my phone, and how i have it set up(everything on but WiFi & NFC, manual brightness..), I get about 4.5-5.5h screen on time :)
[Nexus 5 General] Rxpert:
Kernel can absolutely make a difference.

Obviously use does as well... but if use is the same (as it would be for any one person on their normal day to day schedule) kernel has a very noticeable impact.
[Nexus 5 General] nldxda:
Just flashed these both..

Phone seems overall smoother, don't think its placebo and haven't run into problems yet..

Franco r55, stock 4.4.4 xposed, jun 24 GPU drivers
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
funny. I get the exact same battery life out of any kernel ive tried, with the same use, with the same setup, with the same signal quality.. no mater what, I get between 4.5 and 5.5h sot. kernel can make a difference, sure. but a tiny bit. lowering your screen brightness will make a greater impact.
[Nexus 5 General] der_sascha:
ok i was testing some on AOSPAL but i get everytime bootlogo and than nothing happens so

not workin an PA bases ROM
[Nexus 5 General] chainsuk:
Lighten up for gods sakes you gonna tell us you never made a mistake.......:mad:
[Nexus 5 General] SimoRunde:
no Dalvik library works with AOKP ROM :(
[Nexus 5 General] Rxpert:
Obviously lowering screen brightness is going to give you more battery life... I wasn't arguing against that.

Its already assumed people on a development forum are taking basic battery saving steps if they are looking for more battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
the CPU governors employed by various kernel devs can play a good part in battery consumption too

they try and get the best balance of smoothness, performance and battery efficiency
[Nexus 5 General] hepi_hape:
How about CM base rom ??

Im still using motoX since it was a big moven long time ago
[Nexus 5 General] Haidary.T:
OnePlus One dalvik and Z2/G3 Bionic.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
OK, I'll ask you this, considering that you believe in magic pills for battery life.. which nexus 5 kernel IS the "magic pill"? I mean if kernels improve battery, which kernel is it that will give you magic battery life, not considering how you set up your phone, or the signal quality in your area?

as far as I've seen, even with the kernels that still get a massive amount of development nearly every day, I still get about 5h sot on Trinity kernel, which sees nearly no development, without any effort to increase my battery life. yes, no effort. which is the same as these kernels that see much development, that include code to save battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] YogSothoth:
So there's no way to get any of this working on PA?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Apparently so
[Nexus 5 General] Horoscope:
can some post the link for the G3 bionic ?

I dont see it in the OP
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
OP hasn't posted anything for 3 weeks

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53538968&postcount=1979

Not sure how many times I've had to link it..

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Forgot to reply, but it isn't my thread; I don't mind OT here and there (or everywhere in certain threads ;)), I believe the OP (who hasn't posted in the past 3 weeks, almost a month) doesn't want the thread to stray off, and some moderators had to clean the thread a few times. Main reason most don't want OT is because most people who clicked on the thread clicked it because of the topic, not to read OT posts. Again, personally I don't have anything against it, I am for it, but this isn't my thread with my rules.
[Nexus 5 General] whoamigriffiths:
Oi, stop going OT!! :P
[Nexus 5 General] concaopp:
I'm a nexus 4 user and I'm using CM11 M8. Will flashing g3 bionic and z2 dalvik cause Boot loop on my device?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Worse case scenario is a non-boot, then you just boot back into recovery and restore backup/flash stock or working ones. It isn't the end of the world.. :/
[Nexus 5 General] concaopp:
Got it. But [MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] said in n4 TF kernel thread that he had very high antutu score with Rastakat and these patches
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Again, just flash it and try it yourself. You'll hardly get any answers on if it'll boot on a Nexus 4 ROM because this is the Nexus 5 forum.

See this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53887816

Since CM is a CAF based ROM the Z2's Dalvik is really unlikely to work, so you'll have to use the one from the OnePlus One. If that doesn't work either then just stay with the stock Dalvik, although it should work. Bionic always works regardless so use the one from the LG G3.
[Nexus 5 General] tmorterlaing:
It would seem there's no real reason to use this patch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnkOvtuo_YY&feature=em-uploademail

Unless you feel like adding yet more patches to your phone, "for the lols" as they say....
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
Optimised dalvik won't improve I/O speed, that's why it's the same on loading apps. It will only improve Java/dalvik execution.. Quadrant is most likely a pure java app hence the speed difference.

Don't know why people think it will improve every programming language, and some how improve I/O, gpu, memory speed, CPU speed.. everything... It will just improve dalvik/Java execution.

With antutu @90% of the improvement comes from the bionic optimised libraries from the patch, the improved dalvik score only account for a hundred or so points in the total score.
[Nexus 5 General] toprock23:
So even with this patch ART will still give u a smoother experience?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No.

ART replaces Dalvik, so tasks using Dalvik are improved.

This mod replaces Dalvik (with Optimised dalvik), so tasks using Dalvik are improved.
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
I dunno. Is there a video that shows side by side comparison? I don't think it will do anything for apps and games that are not written in Java, once there running, but might make a difference in what's going on in the background in the OS. Because the OS itself is running Java as far as I understand it.

It might be that ART has less overheads than dalvik, freeing up more resources for other apps, again I'm not sure how it all works.

Edit.. it's all very interesting though.
[Nexus 5 General] koolbrader:
Just wondering though, can I still receive OTA with this mod? If not, can I download the OTA.zip and flash it?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Dont apply OTA to modified systems. Root only is the maximum modification you should have.

if you want the latest updates, flash full roms to clear the modifications. Rooted stock odex or deodexed

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[Nexus 5 General] net.cat:
Now that this mod is operative. what may happened if I flash this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526039

May I lose the boost?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Nothing
[Nexus 5 General] Jephre:
Hey guys, just adding my two cents here.

I noticed a significant decrease in battery life using this mod.

I'm currently using Stock ROM, Franco r14, UC 1.7ghz, UV - 75mhz across the board.

Is my device losing battery life because it's rebuilding Dalvik? I've only done 1 cycle with this.

Previously I was using Franco's r14, and I was getting 1.5hrs SOT, 11 hours total running on battery with 58% left to spare. With this mod, I had 2hrs SOT, 8 hrs total running on battery with only 30% left to spare.

On a side note, how do I tell if this mod is fully removed? I advanced restored my system partition and automatically rebuilt dalvik afterward. Despite having made my last nandroid several weeks ago, after rebooting my device, my homescreen configuration was the exact same as what i had earlier this morning. Is that how advanced restore works?
[Nexus 5 General] razholio:
sounds like it. your homescreen config is stored in /data, so if you just restored /system, then you wouldn't touch the homescreen config. I would speculate that this behavior is the whole point of providing a selective restore.
[Nexus 5 General] hd2009:
stock, odex, franco, -50 mV, camera mod, battery mod.

everything is working fine.

quadrant 18xxx antutu 35xxx
[Nexus 5 General] Dahnark:
What is the battery mod?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] hd2009:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526039
[Nexus 5 General] Malvarose:
This mod doesn't do anything for me..Quadrant even went down.

Using stable Cataclysm ROM, faux kernel mainline, better camera mod.
[Nexus 5 General] Lownita:
I think this might make my phone stutter a bit occasionally. Gonna investigate.

Tapatalked from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] TheLastSidekick:
I think this should definitely be mandatory in all ROMs until Google issues a fix for certain things.

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[Nexus 5 General] george241312:
Wow. Nice :)

And yes I only bought my phone for benchmarks. Whats the point in buying a phone that can't compete with others?
[Nexus 5 General] moliverac8:
Will this work in other Qualcomm based phones?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] concaopp:
Thank you so much!

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Sir I want to confirm that g3 bionic works. I feel a little increase in performance. Thanks very much
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
cm is CAF based, while almost all these dalviks are not. so almost all won't work on cm or cm based ROMs. there are specific dalviks to flash for cm though, but z2 won't boot cm. the bionics should be fine though.
[Nexus 5 General] concaopp:
I rarely use Cm ROMs, so switching to ART is good or not. I need an advice
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
I really stopped using cm years ago, except an occasional flash to test a kernel. now, I do enjoy art, but use dalvik more often(with z2). but how cm will be on art, I have no idea. sorry :(

anyways, with my n4, I'm using the L port at the moment. it runs really well :)
[Nexus 5 General] jphilippon:
I apologize for my absence. I really appreciate you keeping the thread on topic and helping out (no matter how many times the same questions come up...) I'm here now but running L.
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
Why does this patches mess with installation of CM themes? Tried several roms (CM, Purity+, pac-man) and i'm only able to install it without dalvik patches!
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Works fine for me.
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
But you are using your own rom right?

EDIT: it gives me "error 400" when installing from play store. "App not installed" with apk
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
In 220 pages no one has brought it up lol

Not sure, just revert temporarily when installing then?
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
Brought what? The fact that you are using your rom? Your sign says that but you could be using other one ;)

What themes are you using?

Revert wont work, don't know what's happening...it's related with this patches because i tried a lot of combinations of roms/patches and all of them gave me this error...
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
that's not an issue with any of the patches, as you are the first and only one that's reported it. I bet its an issue with user space, something that you are using or doing. are you using xposed?

google error 400, find out what it is.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
I meant brought up that kind of issue, I don't think anyone else has had it.

Read simms22's post above
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
They most certainly are not related. I test pretty much every single ROM here except the bare stock ones. I flash the G3 bionic and OnePlus One dalvik on every ROM I try. Never have an issue with themes. I use materiaL and HoloGlass mostly. Error from play store is on Googles end, or play services issues on yours. He's saying in the entire thread no one has brought up any issues of these causing failed installs from the play store lol.

I can 100% verify it isn't these patches. I've tested them all on about every single ROM and never had that issue even a single time.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
how to fix error 400 http://ahwee321.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-fix-play-store-download-error.html?m=1
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
Nope, clean install, just rom with dalvik flashed ;)

(Ofc i searched a lot in xda and google before posting this issue)

Going to flash CM11 + OnePlus One patches, i'll report back ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Try moving your theme.apk to sdcard then open Terminal Emulator

su

cd sdcard

pm install theme.apk

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Most errors you can find the reason for, but this one I got long ago I still haven't figured out, only way I fixed it was a full wipe xD

Error -401 (yes negative)

lol
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
Tried that yesterday, didn't solve the problem...

Yes, i got -400, negavite error lol

Terminal gives me: Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INVALID_URI]
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
My old error was -401 which has no known solution

Yours does.

http://stackoverflow.com/a/17769803
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
But i got these errors with ALL themes i try to install, through playstore or manually...=\

Depending on theme, it gives me 401 or 400...lol
[Nexus 5 General] Haidary.T:
You have to replace /system/bin/installd from your original ROM. That's what worked for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Mine was long ago before I flashed these lol.

Because I got -401 before I ever flashed these, and no one else has reported such a problem in 200+ pages, I really doubt it's these libs causing your errors. I don't see why it would only stop themes from working either.
[Nexus 5 General] IcipherPT:
Ok guys, i think i found the problem at least with CM11...

I was flashing the original OnePlus One dalvik patch which was always giving me this error -400, with "Oneplus One - Dalvik: (mahdi/slimkat)" got things solved, i think its because it doens't mess with installd :)

[MENTION=5006508]Haidary.T[/MENTION] i tried to restore the file but playstore gave me this error: "insufficient storage available" and thanks for the tip btw ;)

Going to "understand" Purity+ now lol
[Nexus 5 General] reaper000:
Well, with all due respect, I would disagree. I do think it's these dalvik libs causing the theme installation issues.

Consider this:

Flashing z2 Dalvik onto regular Purity is fine.

Flashing z2 Dalvik onto Purity Plus (Purity with the new CM theme engine) causes the aforementioned installation errors with themes.

Conclusion: z2 Dalvik is incompatible with CM theming in Purity Plus.

Note:

Flashing CMv2 Dalvik (which works fine for the theme engine - equipped AOSP-based Mahdi Rom) onto Purity Plus results in a bootloop.

Again, Lethargy probably knows way more than I do, but there appears to be a valid argument for a causal relationship here between the theme issue and dalvik libs
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
the relationship, as we all know from the beginning, is that these patches, unless cm specific, aren't compatible with anything cm.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Purity being an AOSP ROM (can't boot CAF Dalviks), then Purity Plus having the CM theme engine (CM is fully CAF based) is bound to cause issues (unless the dev added some CAF stuff, but then the Z2 Dalvik won't boot). You don't have the issue on Mahdi, because Mahdi is partially CAF if I remember correctly. That's also the reason flashing CM11_Final boots up on Mahdi and not Purity Plus.

You also didn't rule it out being the Z2 Dalvik specifically because you didn't mention trying any other Dalvik that boots on AOSP ROMs such as the ones taken from the MotoX and HTC One M8.

[MENTION=5316648]IcipherPT[/MENTION] also said he had the issue on a bunch of ROMs, not just a specific one.