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[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
Quick Help!!!! plz

I am about to install the ROM but wandering whats the meaning/process "preload" in the installation procedure.

Plz can someone help soon!!!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Its the same buddy :)

Use Layers App to install layers

Preload is place that ROM devs can add app and it will be installed when the ROM boot up and please remove OP Quote
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] gp545:
Well, if you're using TWRP recovery there's an option in advance wiping system called, wipe preload..

If using Philz or standard ClockworkMod recovery, just wipe, system, data and cache.. That's fair enough..

By the way, edit out that first post quote part from your post and never quote any first post of any thread, it makes a mobile user hard to scroll all the way through..
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
Thanks!!!!

I will do it the next time.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AndresSanzH:
Where are all the layers/overlays? ? I can't find them
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] RoCorral:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3073939

[Layers / Overlay / RRO]Dark Settings 5.0 TW [Multi Color][22 Layers][6/4]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3025183

[11/4] SystemUI Layers 5.0 TW [S6 Layer]
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] colvinpeter:
great rom.

Great Rom, Stable, Fast as Expected. Using your rom for long now.

i have a request, can you include features like 1. Sidekey panel, 2. toolbox, 3. Ultra Power Saving Mode etc. in your next update? if included then it is greatly appreciated.

Thank You.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] RoCorral:
Please don't quote the first post....thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] shiruuu.samad:
Wow this rom is great for everthing except gaming.Every game i try FC or get stuck if i get a notification or pull down notification bar to check time.Clean flash with latest bootloader and modem v15.Anyfix?Tried cleaning data of game no use

Keep calm.Coz IPL 8 belongs to KKR
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
First of all don't quote OP

1 & 2 Already included

3. I'll check it later

Which Game ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] shiruuu.samad:
Prison life RPG

Stick cricket

Real steel

Six guns

Note:clash of clan ,blek have no issue and these games are NOT restored from Tb

Keep calm.Coz IPL 8 belongs to KKR
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] behcet98:
nice rom, tnx.

Have ntfs support?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] milton.bain:
[MENTION=4648515]AL_IRAQI[/MENTION] :

1. You said that you would upload the app for fixing my drama shot issue...However I couldn't find any.

2. My battery life had improved dramatically after flashing stock system ui. I noticed that stock system ui don't have 3 minit battery. I think 3 minit battery might be draining battery.

-sent from India with love!

(GT i9500™, Prism Bane v15)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
1.check removed apps folder

2.3Minit mod doesn't use any battery life

I'll check it later

I don't think so , it needs custom kernel
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] shiruuu.samad:
I cant find stock sysem ui with centre clock in removed apps.Link?

Keep calm.Coz IPL 8 belongs to KKR
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Tamir_Hazut:
can someone please upload an OB8 SMemo
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] invincible authority:
Guys this is the UPSM mod for PBB V15.

Just flash the zip file via recovery. Remember there won't be any UPSM toggle on the status bar.

For enabling UPSM you need to first select the apps via "UPSM Manager" app and then enable UPSM via "UPSM" app. Each time you enable an app via "UPSM Manager" you need to clear the data of "EmergencyManagerService" and "EmergencyProvider" from settings>application manager>All and reboot !!

DOWNLOAD : http://pc.cd/oee

Happy Flashing !!
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Thanks buddy , but you've added two system folders ,Use This Zip

http://pc.cd/oee
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] invincible authority:
Ohh damn.. thanks :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] usernaem:
So, I've left my phone on for some time and I wanted to ask about something I noticed. I'll link the pictures I took as to not spam the thread.

Here are the general stats. It lasted quite a while, which makes me doubt if there is a problem or not: http://i.imgur.com/7y59SN6.png

(What a lazy phone, it slept for two days and a half! Wish I could do the same.)

However, in the graphs section I see this: http://i.imgur.com/45LdAIC.png

It seems to be a mess of wakelocks, even though I didn't use the phone that much. The parts where it seems that there aren't that many wakelocks are when I slept, I think. I haven't gone outside with the phone at any point in that graph, so there wasn't a lot of movement or changes in light or anything that could be related to that.

Here's a screenshot of a graph (different timeframe than the last one) with a 6 hours span, given that the last one spans two and a half days and it could be because of that that we see such a clutter in the graph: http://i.imgur.com/3douEId.png

They are still pretty frequent.

What's strange is that I don't have anything strange in the wakelock section of BetterBatteryStats: http://i.imgur.com/OxUbkXY.png http://i.imgur.com/fM8wFJk.png

But I have this in the alarms section and I don't know if it's normal or not: http://i.imgur.com/JwfpdsF.png

Does this happen to any of you? Is it normal or should I investigate further? Could it be a cause of battery drain?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] rohanchrome:
Cannot use print option from Chrome. It just greys out. Any solution?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Orangley:
Battery drains so fast lost %15 in 5 min. Any fix or should i buy new battery?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] sway8966:
All the lollipop phones have battery drain problem in first two or three days after install. Wait and see for a week before you go and buy the new battery.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
For me its perfect but Google Player Services has many Alarms click on it

And check with services use the highest alarms and disable it with Disable Service app only if you don't use this service, for example Heart Rate

And from App Ops in Settings Disable auto run for it

Download Print plugin from play store then add printer it should works fine

Use BetterBatteryState to see which app drain the battery
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Osmodiar:
great rom, really fast, stable and small size

Thanks PRISM team. Amazing rom. I love the small install and the option to add missing apps.

I didn't find issues for the moment. Just a few error messages from gapps but they seem to be gone after services update and alarm widget is not displaying data ok. But other than that perfect. :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
Couple of queries here!!!

I am planning to move to this ROM from Aurora Note 4 port 5.01 v7, as the there is no Svoice drive in that and the shareit app doesn't seem to work.

Please can u confirm that this ROM has Svoice drive and Shareit (3rd party) working on it.

Thanks,

Mobfest
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Osmodiar:
Hi Mobfest, I did not installed Svoice and Shareit. But you can check app packages AL_IRAQUI posted. I'm sure Svoice is there to flash from recovery. I personally only added Email, SFinder and Quick Connect.

Regarding Shareit, I don't see any reason for this app to not work.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Rixwan786:
same problem i am getting

my imei num ave been changed

it isn't null but this is not as same on hndst back

if u get a solutuin then tell me
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] shiruuu.samad:
Restore your EFS backup[emoji6]

Keep calm.Coz IPL 8 belongs to KKR
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Y3dx:
Fix Charging Effect

in SecSettings.apk

I convert .wbp to .png

in SystemUI.apk

I Added Charging Effect (.smali &.png)

Download and flash via CWM

https://mega.co.nz/#!w0JVCaxa!_EQXAv0-eUmiDPT7sfvUsiDU0MFa8lH_UI6KfuuQl9E
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Orangley:
System and system ui drains a lot like %88
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
No S Voice!!!

I installed the rom but can't see any Svoice app. Please help me get it.

I use almost everyday for driving. I also want My files.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] NonXtreme:
I can't enable any service in accessibility setting. I need it for nova launcher. Is this a bug? Any fix?

Thank!
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Rixwan786:
i din't have any EFS backup now what to do
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] zozoz13:
You can found it in this Link
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] gio_b:
Rom has efs backup itself read #1 just found it with root browser from playstore.

Storage/sdcard0/efs_Backup and restore in /

Giovanni.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Osmodiar:
It doesn't seem to be a problem of this rom or nova launcher. I can see there are many posts related to this issue after searching on google. Most of them say that it's related to Android 5.0.1. Others mentioned removing Lux (don't know this) fixed the issue.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Mir Asif:
Black theme v4 graphic issues in contacts and log screen.

I flashed the black theme v4 and this has made music player, file manager and other apps looks gorgeous on the amoled screen. .. But there is a problem in contacts and logs screen where the tabs are not viewable.. . This can be seen in the screen shots you uploaded as well.. It makes it look odd. Again i wanted contacts screen to be stock themed, is there anyway i can do that...

One more problem i found is that after i flashed black theme v4, clock application started force closing every time i restart my device.. . I've to force stop and clear the data to make is work again. .. This happens every time i restart the device...
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] NonXtreme:
Thx for reply

I don't have lux or any similar app installed though and I can press the ok button just fine (see the pic) but it will stay off (Whereas the button is unpressable in LUX case.)

Also in my previous rom, which is aurora note4 port v7 don't have the problem but it's android 5.0.2.

So my conclusion is that this is touchwiz android 5.0.1 bug or it's this rom bug.

Anyway, does anyone have the same problem trying to enable accessibility service like me? Thx
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] MOMOthammavong:
Are there anyway for me to Change menu key to Recent Apps keys? tried searching for others threads but it's not really well explained so I cant make it work
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Koeties:
"Android System" is draining my battery

OK, I'm going to try the "Lightweight Kernel" to see if it helps. Will post updates.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] MonkeyDoBusiness:
Hey! Flash this https://app.box.com/s/2z3bzeu72n1z2fxtpgjdkf4cdjheezp6 in any recovery

And use this guide for S5 Dialer: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58435426&postcount=117 (NO need to rename the files. Just replace it with any root explorer and set permissions to rw-r-r).

Reboot.

Hit thanks if I helped! :D

---------- Post added at 06:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:27 PM ----------

This drained my battery even more. And it also made the phone laggy and the camera was basically unusable. Switched back to stock kernel that came with this ROM. I get 3hrs of SOT now. LWK gave me 1.5hrs. Prism Kernel 2.5hrs.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Koeties:
OK, thank you for this info.

I'll switch back to stock ROM kernel then. Do I need to reflash the ROM to do that or is there a separate stock kernel flashable zip somewhere?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Kr1tikalMas:
Looks awesome, thanks for your work AI!

Flashing from 4.2.2, rooted, Perseus etc, do I need to go through some specific moethod? Saw this thread and am wondering whether it's applicable to me before I flash?

Happy festive season Prism People!
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
you only need to wipe data from recovery :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Kr1tikalMas:
Thanks man!! Very excited to try this. Just gotta sort out lunch for the family first :D:D
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] nickboy360:
And also do a internal sd wipe or u will be stuck on boot loop
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Or simply make wipe for new rom with philz recovery
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Kr1tikalMas:
Working great so far!!! :D So neat, so little bloat.

Looking for a nice email app though - but can only find old versions of blacked out gmail.

Great work AI, been looking for a plain, light rom for the 9500 for a while and this fits the bill great. The only thing that isn't outstanding, is that with settings menus etc, as it's been blacked out with no dividers between options, it doesn't read as easily - not a major issue though, I'm still very happy.

Thanks again!
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Thorvic777:
So what i did not understand???

Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Buddy I only need modded systemui
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Thorvic777:
Ok modded with what?? With that battery??

Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Modded with og battery mod
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Thorvic777:
U mean just battery icons?? But wich ones??? Or u mean the 1% battery mod?

Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] kenn7:
[MENTION=4648515]AL_IRAQI[/MENTION] [MENTION=5248098]Thorvic777[/MENTION]

It's fine, have found an xposed module to change the batt icon..

thx guyss...

Anw, when using voice notes on BBM, i can't hear any sound from the voice notes.. can u please tell me which apk to push in system/app in order to make it work?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mw86:
I'll try my BBM, I'll see if it's the same situation.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] nickboy360:
There no problem with bbm.. voice notes works fine for me.

---------- Post added at 10:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 PM ----------

It works fine for me . Try re installing bbm previous version and then update it
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] kenn7:
if u don't mind, would u please provide any link for the prev version?

my titanium has backed up the latest version and i don't have the prev version anymore :(
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] nickboy360:
Sure i will.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mw86:
Yeah just confirmed my voice note function worked just now on BBM as well.

---------- Post added at 12:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:05 PM ----------

Maybe just force stop on BBM, clear data and uninstall. Reboot so remaining files are gone and reinstall right from market?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] kenn7:
thx guys...

or perhaps this is due to me deleted some apks from system/app?

and my apology, my thx limit has passed so can't give thx to both of u :(
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mw86:
Maybe not sure.

Let me post some info. Here is all I messed with on latest. Not for users to assume safe as I use English only and may effect other languages should you follow my exact list. So this is more for you to know what I removed and still have BBM working.

APK's removed or converted to user apps

***************

google play music

calculator

clock 3

es file explorer

google search 1.0

google search 2.88

lightning browser

street view

textra

task manager

tags

Samsung keyboard

search applications provider

photo editor

market feedback agent

gallery

com google Android voice search

com Android browser provider

kit Kat launcher

Picasa Uploader

video player

manage accessibility

safety assistance

choko cooky

jazz

rosemary

torch

Files Removed

************

/system/fonts/Chococooky.ttf

/system/fonts/Cooljazz.ttf

/system/fonts/Rosemary.ttf

/system/fonts/GS45_Arab_AndroidOS.ttf

/system/fonts/DroidSansArmenian.ttf

/system/fonts/DroidSansEthiopic-Regular.ttf

/system/fonts/DroidSansHebrew-Bold.ttf

/system/fonts/DroidSansHebrew-Regular.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungThai.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungTelugu.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungTamil.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungSinhala.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungPunjabi.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungOriya.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungMalayalam.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungKoreanBrowser.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungKoreanBrowser-Bold.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungKorean.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungKorean-Bold.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungKannada.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungGujarathi.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungDevanagari.ttf

/system/fonts/SamsungBengali.ttf

/system/media/audio/ui/Undock.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Ticktac.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Springtime_memories.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Serene_morning.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Sea_breeze.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Daybreak.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Dawn_chorus.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Alarm_Morning_flower.ogg

/system/media/audio/alarms/Alarm_Day_by_day.ogg

/system/media/audio/notifications/S_Whistle.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_att_noti.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_att_noti1.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_att_noti2.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_att_noti3.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_beep1.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_alert.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_beep2.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_beep3.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_beep4.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_beep5.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_noti.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_noti1.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_noti2.ogg

/system/media/audio/ui/Pen_det_noti3.ogg

Updates integrated into Rom via Titanium Backup

***********************

updated google play services

updated google playstore

From there I have used DE-samsungizer script for few leftovers like boot sound.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2507931

[CWM][SCRIPT][4.2.2/4.3] DE-SAMSUNGNIZER Script V4.1 - Clean all unneded Samsung Crap

Then one last batch AL Iraqi had.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] nickboy360:
www.devfiles.co/download/Ggeh4uyc/BBM_1.0.2.83.apk
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Mods For TouchWiz Launcher

Here
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] MOMOthammavong:
Hey man, Don't you have any official 3Dots Menu mod on your OP?

I think many users need this!:mad:;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Arjoni:
[MENTION=4648515]AL_IRAQI[/MENTION] i have a problem with WIFI. It doesn't show any wifi when it scans. I can only connect to networks that i have manually configured. I have tried both modems but with no luck.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] aang741:
maybe, you have used ops app and deactivated the permission of location in settings app?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] b.a.e.m:
tethering doesn't seems to work.. not sure if it's a rom problem or my device.

anyone know the solution to this. im using version 14.6 btw.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Visakh Ramaswami:
Urgent help required

hi guys.

i rooted my s4 i9500 using twrp 2.8 yesterday and installed pbb v15.

since it didnt boot up, i installed the bootloader and modem given in 2nd post.

the rom did boot up, but now i dont have network.

it shows all the carriers in the network menu, but i seem to be unable to connect to a network.

this is my only phone.

any help would be appreciated..
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AndresSanzH:
Try restoring a efs backup
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Koeties:
OK, so flashing the ROM again didn't do anything to help with the "Android System" process eating battery life. I'm stuck with that process consuming 7% battery life per hour!! Any ideas what I can try?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Visakh Ramaswami:
when i checked, the service code showed imei certi failed.

i bought this phone 2nd hand and it was an unlocked phone.

my imei is still intact-the same as in the back of the phone.

and i can even search carriers and select them.

but it is not registering on any network.

please help.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] LeandritoG:
Does this rom have One Hand Operation feature?

---------- Post added at 04:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:01 AM ----------

Unfortunatelly you need a box now... Maybe the Cert used in your phone is from other IMEI and when you choose the rom, the IMEI CERT goes to Fail.

Have a way to "fix" it in a not very good way for calls and internet, but not for SMS.

You just need to downgrade your modem for DDUAMDK and then always that you restart your phone digit it:

1° *#0011# -> Back -> 8-1-5-5 -> END

2° *#0011# -> Back -> 8-7-3-[1-2] -> END

I hope I have helped you.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Arjoni:
yeah that was the issue. thanks a lot :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
Audio in stock music player cracking!!!!

Hi I have been using this ROM from over 3 days now, I must say it's a very good modification to Samsung stock, doesn't slow down.

But today when I am using this for listening to music in the stock music player a songs 320 KBPS is cracking through stock earphones at Volume level 7. I am music lover and believe that Galaxy S4 is a very potent music player, this cracking noise disturbs me.

Please can somebody suggest a fix?

Thanks,

Mobfest
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] rgshah3:
[MENTION=4648515]AL_IRAQI[/MENTION] XXUHOC5 is available! Could you update the rom and provide a link to the latest modem?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
I know that , i won't update the ROM I'm waiting Russian base and i won't download the ROM only to extract the modem :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Koeties:
"Android System" is draining my battery

So after no improvement and no success in finding why this is draining battery, I finally reverted to a factory reset. :crying:

So far so good, although I'm not loving having to set up my phone from scratch again.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Siberian Tiger:
Here you go ,modem from XXUHOC5 :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] zozoz13:
Is it still OA7 modem version? Or newer? Can anyone confirm

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Asha60:
Yes it's the same modem OA7. This modem from (XXUHOC5) i use now since 2 weeks.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] Arjoni:
Does anyone have any idea how to add more apps to multiwindow? On magma rom there are all apps on multiwindow by default. How can i do that on prism?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] sksarfaraz:
thats not fair

your answer is so rude
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
Thanks buddy

OC5 for Israel contain newer modem

I don't see anything rude about it :)

I'll ask about it
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] shiruuu.samad:
Ask about it soon .And I think there is nothing rude in that too[emoji9] [emoji4]
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] andreskafe:
And the bootloader? [emoji16]

And if Samsung dont release a new update to Russia? [emoji17]
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] mobfest:
Plz Help!!

Is the new modem answer to my query

Thanks,

Mobfest
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] abukad:
Regarding Post #3

As salaam ualaikum

You mentioned to install the modem and bootloader, is it necessary to download the modem or must i download it if i have a problem with the modem after installing?
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] zozoz13:
How do you know? Are you download the firmware? If yes can you upload it for me :)

It's not a must. Flash it if you have problem with your current modem version.
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] AL_IRAQI:
i didn't download it ?, someone posted screenshot with software information.

Baseband version OC1
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] zozoz13:
Ahh alright..:eek:
[Galaxy S 4 i9500 Android Development] codybank_789:
Im getting this annoying Powermanagerservice_wakelocks and l2_hsic. Any ideas how to get rid of them ? :confused: