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[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
For the record, I believe if you are using Mythtools to flash (which is what I always do), you don't need to mess with the "getvar" lines, as it handles that all for you.

I've flashed that latest XML using Mythtools, with all the latest stock patches, numerous times without issues.

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Thanks. And I found your post on AT&T's forum.

Hint: We should all go here and vote "Me Too":

https://forums.att.com/t5/Android/Motorola-Atrix-HD-MB886-update-to-Kitkat-4-4-4/m-p/4150974
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
done...
[Motorola Atrix HD] TheDickster:
Ditto.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
unfortunately that's a peer to peer forum. in other words, no att techies...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
True dat. With AT&T it might be more productive to push ones way up the corporate communication ladder rather than the tech ladder by contacting their corporate resolutions department (or whatever they call it these days). One way to do this is to file a Better Business Bureau complaint, although that might be an extreme action to take just to get info about KK update (I took this path to flush out big problems with their falsely advertised LTE service).
[Motorola Atrix HD] lgmayka:
The advantage of KitKat was supposed to be better daily battery life. Now that my 2-year-old Atrix HD doesn't hold a charge very long anymore--and doesn't have a replaceable battery!--and KitKat will not come to it until pigs fly, I have made a switch of phone and manufacturer.

The LG G2 is indeed a neat phone. The Atrix HD is not (anymore).
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Doesn't have a replaceable battery? That's why a lot of us have replaced our batteries with the RHD battery. The battery is replaceable if you make an attempt to replace it with the proper tool (T5 screwdriver). Kitkat has come to the AHD, even if its not an official Moto release, before the pigs have flown. Congrats on spending money on a new phone just to have that official feel to it, its not like the older devices past their EOL are able to run newer a OS (Moto Defy (2010) runs KK, soon to be LP). The LG G2 is just a Verizon phone with a bigger screen, no SD Card slot, msm8974, and still on Kitkat. Kitkat? Didn't I just say the AHD was on Kitkat? Oh, I did. You didn't really gain much at all. Maybe a better contract with Verizon instead of ATT, but that's all.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Bah on contracts! :D

I have an EB40 battery sitting idle in my parts box - don't need it.

I am watching just how much fun they are having up on the xt926 thread.

Go Motorola!!! Love my AHDs!
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Btw, just spoke to an in store rep at a corporate store. ATT has been 4 months behind other carriers with the KK update. No ETA, but if it got released by Moto to ATT, there should be no reason it shouldn't get pushed out.
[Motorola Atrix HD] alexche77:
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This gave me some hope.
[Motorola Atrix HD] robobub:
Ahh they need to hurry up! Potentially F2FS needs the newer KBBL.
[Motorola Atrix HD] dbrown89441:
Okay, so now someone is lying... :/

I guess one year of waiting has finally gotten to me...

I Live Chatted with Motorola once again.

This time I was told (by the same guy, "Edgar"!!) that there IS NO KitKat upgrade for the Atrix HD. What?!!

I pointed out that it's been listed on their site for at least a year as being upgraded to KitKat... and still is. He couldn't explain that.

I asked why I was told last week that that KitKat 4.4.4 for Atrix HD was complete and that AT&T needed to release it to Atrix HD owners. He couldn't explain that, either.

We went back and forth and then he told me, "I am sorry. Anyhow, updates for Operating System is released batches by batches. Your phone will receive any updates once it is available."

Rather confused, I asked, "So, is the phone going to receive KitKat, or not?"

His response: "I can not answer that."

HUH?!?!?

I pressed for an explanation. He got snotty. Whatever.

I then called Motorola's Customer Service line at 800-734-5870.

This guy tells me that Atrix HD was never slated for the KitKat upgrade!!

He went on and on with his diplomatic BS, too. At least, he wasn't rude.

My suspicion is that AT&T has decided not to release it to us... You know, to sell us new phones. They don't make enough money already... (My next phone will not have an AT&T logo on it!)

Motorola is doing their best to back-track on their promise, saying it is all a mistake.

Those two conversations were like being in the Twilight Zone...
[Motorola Atrix HD] cooljeremy84:
If someone is going to buy a new cellphone or already bought it because their disappointed with Motorola ; its their choice to do it. Not all people want to change the battery using screwdrivers. Every time someone express their choice to change the cellphone you start to try to censor their opinion. If you have a not official kK fine, if you changed the battery by yourself fine. But not all people have same opinion like you and they don't have to do the thinks that you did. Its a shame that we can't share a opinion in this forum because people like you don't like it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I only have control over my budget, no one else's. 2 screws is all that needs losened up to replace. Moto did do us wrong by giving us smaller battery (no one knows why but we have fixed that on our own). Censorship of opinions is not what i am doing, although it is amusing that me pointing out valid facts (what i am doing) is being interpreted in a way that makes me North Korea. There is a difference between censorship/being upset and pointing out valid facts. Their decisions don't affect my bills, my income, my job, or my personal device. I have no reason to get upset.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
I bet someone changes car when the engine oil turns bad...

Just saying..

(since I was quoted and saw nothing that was worth of a reply on there...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'd prefer to keep some spare parts and cans of oil around ;). In fact planning to get second AHD for that reason - especially if CM develops Lollipop for it.

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Typical for AT&T. Your best bet is to get to their engineer level of support (if that is still possible ) and see if you luck out and get someone who knows what is going on, or to contact their corporate resolutions department (Office of President I think is what they call it) and press them for answers.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Update from Moto chat

Convo 1

Rep confirms Kitkat

*wifi disconnected* (gotta hate when that happens

Convo 2

Rep asks if I have Jellybean or Kitkat 4.4.2

Rep: "according to the system you do have the latest Jelly Bean upgrade it should be or it will be upgraded to KitKat (Android 4.4), however there is no release date on this usually how it works is that the updates are send randomly in 15 or 20 serial numbers at the time by the service provider , so my best suggestion if you have tried all and still nothing will be to get a hold of ATT"

as a matter of fact let me show you how we determine that go to https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949 and then scroll down and select the carrier , once you choose the carrier you will find your device, once you find your device you select it and tells you the update you should have , from there it will take you here https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_detail/a_id/89776/p/30,6720,8558 and there you will see in a chart the latest one you have the 98.5.38.MB886.ATT.en.US you hit on view and then will take to this site were it gives all details for the one you currently have https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/99457 , so if we are here we can only wait for the carrier to release a update for us since they are made Over the Air by them like i mention are randomly made.

Me: I'm guessing when you asked if I had Kitkat 4.4.2, that's the one that's slated to be released?

Rep: you should be rolled over to either 4.4.1 or 4.4.2. Depends on ATT

In conclusion, Its a wait for ATT thing. Thank you to those of you whom have criticized me lately for putting forth valid points in the wait for an official Moto based Kitkat, and to all those whom gave up hope and bashed me for telling you all to be patient.

Next stop, ATT customer service!
[Motorola Atrix HD] cooljeremy84:
Good luck in your wait!:thumbup: meanwhile next stop, T-Mobile and get my note 4 with my next paycheck
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
LOL good luck with TMO... btdt. never again. Read their support forums. especially billing.
[Motorola Atrix HD] cooljeremy84:
Already did. $20 less than att ( my wife has it) plus unlimited lte velocity here in Puerto Rico. :p
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Sooo... Any news about this?
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I chatted with motorola just now and after being told there was none, I sent them the link showing it and was told

"I was checking the case and yes sorry for that, but eventually your phone is going to get the kitkat version , we don't have a date yet but I would recommend you stay tune in the same web page and then when you see the article you can try download by Over the Air and if not please call us and we are more than happy to help you with this"

So who knows - probably some techie somewhere in the maze! :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for contacting Moto. I would contact AT&T as well and press to higher tech level but do not have access to their support structure since I've switched to T-Mo. Their responses as reported by you and others are very typical first level of support flailing for an answer they don't have and then and agreeing with the customer as support's uninformed statements are proven false and extra information which they cannot refute is provided. No fault of the first level support staff - they just do not know the answers and get caught in those contradictions trying to please the customer and follow a template. Even if and after such an update starts to roll out it is unlikely that customer support will know until support requests related to the upgrade come in... and it will be folks like us who inform them "btw you've started to roll out KK to AHD".

All that said: I popped into my nandroid backup of stock yesterday* and there was no available update. I'm assuming that I would get this OTA the same way I received the heartblead OTA even though I'm on T-MoI, although I wonder if going back to a nandroid of stock is enough or if I should flash stock completely fresh and then look for the update.

*BTW - While in stock I was able to replicate that GMaps GPS prompt issue! :eek:

[Edit] Contacted AT&T and was ultimately forwarded into the phone void and disconnected. Contacted Motorola and was told that update might be in a few days but think that was just another well meaning but uninformed platitude.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Yeah, they said that before, let's hope that AT&T finally releases it. I really really want to try 5.0 :laugh:

Thanks for the info, man!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
my problem with the idea that att has it is that it is listed on a motorola site.

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_detail/a_id/89776/p/30,6720,8558

down about 10".

I will not spend time trying to beat up on corporate att as I'm sure they don't know any more than their techies do.

I'll go check stock, but the fact that it's not listed on the above site tells me it's not out. EDIT: no update at this time...

I'd love to be wrong on all this! :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I see what you mean but would still not be surprised to see the update start to roll out (if at all) before the website is modified, although I trust Moto more than AT&T in that regard.
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
You know me. I'll laugh them right off of here lol.

Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] Blackest Pain:
You and me both lmao
[Motorola Atrix HD] Durteedee:
I would only laugh if they weren't happy with motoblur 4.4

Sent from Moto Atrix HD Maxx Probam edition
[Motorola Atrix HD] EcHoFiiVe:
Ya know me I'll do the same thing lol
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
As an owner of 9 forums currently and have owned over 30 forums and 200 blogs and websites I can take side of the owner of this forum that im most certain he will agreed with me that these types of comments disgrace anyone. Why will you guys make fun of someone that is just trying their options on hand. All of you felt STUPID at many points in you noob forum and testing careers. But will never accepted as you guys seen to be f******* perfect and the first excuse will be "ohhh i have google my problems and questions even when google didnt existed." Lames, If you guys which respect from noobs then show respect to them. Ohhh i almost forgot that those noobs are the ones that gratitude the developers work and even are the ones that send you a donation after doing something nice to their likes. This F***** ego sh!t of im better and noobs are STUPID needs to stop. I have never seen this happening in other forums like Samsung and HTC forums i also participate. This is just a disgrace to a community board that in first place was made for the purpose of helping and working as a group.

If you guys really wants to point out not to upgrade from an update coming from the manufacturers or providers then make a thread and ask for sticky it and advise that if they dont follow advices you guys will laught.

Cmon, noobies at most dont flash a rom to be an flashoholic they just flash to have a better phone then what they had from factory. Doesnt mean that will spend day in and out like most of us do reading every dawn post...

And yes true is that im no one but my developing and hacking came from other hobbies and trustme in donations alone i had a living until got served. But that is a different story.

I had always thought that helping always get its rewards but cmon laughing and making fun of other for somthing they are not expertise you think it will get you there? Can we all just get alone and just be helpful? If not then forums is just not for you
[Motorola Atrix HD] deeje00:
Sorry mom. Didn't realize everyone was being so serious..

Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Nahh man, this been happening in atrix forum for quite a while and truely sucks if you ask me. I have asked before and you skeevy and others have helped me on a good way and i appreciate it but making fun for what others do i think is sarcastic.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Byakko Custom:
tl:dr version

"Play nice and don't mock the ones who updated from the upcoming OTA. Noobs want new stuff too, and will most likely update through that method. This is disgraceful to the community and you should feel bad. Helping has its rewards and mocking doesn't. Either help out or get out."

or something like that... I also had the urge to quote that...

I was going to jump on the whole, "laugh at the noobs who updated" bandwagon, but then I remembered the pains of when I updated to the 4.1 OTA...

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[Motorola Atrix HD] Blackest Pain:
Trust me. I'm not someone who takes anything to serious. (I'm only a junior in highschool lol) I wouldn't ever really laugh someone out of here. I'm just barely past the "noob" title. I'm definitely not a dev but I'd definitely try my best to point someone asking for help in the right direction.

Being on the varsity football team for the last two yrs. I just saw this as a joking rite of passage or sonething. Same as being forced to get water or whatever.... This was (in my opinion) meant as a joke. Although... Skeevydude does give plenty of warning about stupid questions lol. Sorry if I offended anyone...
[Motorola Atrix HD] gabo_e30:
That is exactly what I did. Nexus 4 screen is not as beautiful as my atrix HD screen. I saw a friends atrix the other day and boy is that screen beautiful...

Got a 32gb SD card and a eb40. And now plus Kit Kat its gonna be awesome.

My nexus 4 still hasn't gotten the OTA for Kit Kat... Very dissapointed
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Damn, didn't think an off-hand comment would start an ethics towards noobs discussion.

//the filter is why I manually blur my cuss words ya fuc*ers :p
[Motorola Atrix HD] Byakko Custom:
It's the internet; anything can start from an off-hand comment.

To be honest though, it ended much faster than I thought.

Just goes to show how much of a close-knit community these forums are.

On a related note, you think there's the off chance that our bootloaders won't be locked by the update?

Just what if the update won't affect the bootloader... That'd be great.

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[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
I'd be very surprised if it left us unlocked or with the ability to unlock on the website...basing this on what Moto's done in the past and the RAZR HD's last update. I'm just gonna assume that it'll lock us down and play it safe -- it's just stupid to assume otherwise.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Durteedee:
I have to agree even though Motorola has become"dev friendly" I just wonder how far that spreads
[Motorola Atrix HD] viera_ritz:
I find the concept of Kit Kat on the Atrix absolutely amazing. As a guy who very much did enjoy the stock experience of the Atrix from when I first got it, I probably wouldn't mind trying it out. If it locks my bootloader again well hell, it sucks but I know everyone on this forum will come to my aid and in time find another unlock method. Is there a chance it could be horrible? yes, do I really care? Nope. That being said I'm more than happy to be a guinea pig when it comes to ROMs and other such fun stuff.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
No...Just no. If we become locked down, nobody will come to your aid and find a new bootloader unlock method. See the latest RAZR HD JB update -- nobody has come to their aid. Dan, the dude who unlocked us in the first place, has moved on to other things and likely won't be coming back to reunlock us. We were only able to be unlocked because this was Motorola's first go on this platform and didn't have everything locked down 100% -- that just isn't the case these days (you'd see the X/Ultra having unlock methods if this was the case).

What'll happen is eventually someone will figure out how to root the damn thing again, Hashcode will update SafeStrap, and you'll be stuck using SSR and stock based roms. 6-7 months down the line when we're all running KK4.5 you'll wish you had a little patience.

The only thing we can do is hope that Moto has changed their bootloader unlock policies. With the G being a fully unlocked phone from the get go, there's always the chance that they could rethink some things and unlock us with the KK update, but that's very doubtful and just wishful thinking.
[Motorola Atrix HD] clockcycle:
The Mexicans are coming!

So wondering will the MX get updated as well? I am assuming yea, since it's hardware not carrier dependent? I'm guessing it will.

So who's getting it first MX retail or AT&T?

XDA ofc noob! ah ok, looking forward to it.

Hopefully stock. Clean like MX would be nice. (I enjoy 4.1.2MX lots)

I guess I'll flash some 4.4 to see what's coming.

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Is it not a blown fuse?

And on that note, my bootloader unlocked using djrbliss method had that warning screen, until I flashed full MX retail. Now it just boots with the Motorola logo like nothing happened, although it still shows bootloader unlocked
[Motorola Atrix HD] viera_ritz:
well then if root is all we can get that's perfectly fine. I just have more faith in you guys then to just give up because a new version comes out and the bootloader re-locks itself. I've done fine with stock before I can do it again. Who knows maybe Moto will throw us a bone and keep the bootloader unlocked.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Dont risk it. You will regret if it gets locked so much you will sale your phone if you like to try different things
[Motorola Atrix HD] viera_ritz:
I do like to try new ROMs but at the same time since I got the bootloader unlock and root I've been using HoloBlur which in it's own way is stock. I've not tried anything other than that because it's been so stable for me. Now if someone makes say a HoloBlur style KitKat ROM that would be epic. I'll wait because I'm patient and I'll hope for massively awesome KitKat ROMs.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I did check on stock - it's not out yet...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Did not miss that point :) I also hit stock today to work out some kinks in Motorola Device Manager* and that got me pondering the "official" update mechnisim. Even though the update has to go through AT&T before being released it seems that it would have to go back through Motorola at some point in order to be delivered through the Motorola Device Manager. I wonder if the OTA is thusly managed by motorola rather than AT&T. On the stock build there is a motorola device adminstrator app and and Moto support can see what is going on with the phone remotely even without that.

*A lateral rabbit hole has been that Avast antivirus has been detecting Motorola Device Manager installation components as a virus - Seems to be false positive (same installer files I've used before).
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
" On the stock build there is a motorola device adminstrator app and and Moto support can see what is going on with the phone remotely even without that.

"

which means one should be on stock when calling or chatting with moto. he did ask me my phone number.. I was on CM11.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Yes, if Moto support is taking a remote look into the phone. I don't know how they would see details without their services on it. This is sort of what I was exploring with The Motorola Device Manager which, for CM, does not communicate properly between the phone and Motorola and just keeps spinning rather than report update status... although the USB connection between PC and phone is OK. Back in stock (and after another USB driver cleanup) Motorola Device Manager worked fine.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Hopefully it will come soon.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
-checked in stock using Moto Dev Mgr - no update...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I'm on CM11, but is it saying device is up to date? Or something else?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Yes the prompt is something like Your device is up to date.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Thank [MENTION=2945516]KrisM22[/MENTION] for checking.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I'll check every week or more often and report here.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Thanks, man!
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Thanks.

Hopefully soon get KK.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Popped into stock (to see how stock prevents clear notifications button from removing new voicemail notifications) and checked for update via OTA. None yet.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Is your APN TMO or ATT? Might you have to use Moto Devg Mgr?