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[Droid RAZR M General] Tommino84:
In the end yesterday while driving home, M started downloading OTA :D

As a happy kid I decided to try install it even if I'm unlocked+rooted+custom recovery

Obviously it failed :D and worse of all, it started looping because when entering the system, in 5 minutes it tried to restart and update again.

Had to SBF to JB and take the OTA from vanilla :)

I haven't anyway tried to root again and install twrp, I'll do it in the we, together with restoring all apps :)

one thing only I regret Agenda Widget does not work with KK and the developer seems vanished..
[Droid RAZR M General] razor411:
Does anyone know if I can flash this on my xt905? I flashed stock JB trough RSDLite and if I hit update it says "currently not available" What the hell does that mean?
[Droid RAZR M General] thewraith420:
Not yet anyway.... I haven't given up on finding a way yet
[Droid RAZR M General] TheForceUnleashed:
Probably server overload. The KK OTA has been hunted for A LOT. I have 183.46.10 (KK) and I still check mine (for Verizon 4.4.3 or something) and it does the same thing.
[Droid RAZR M General] Tommino84:
Settings will crash if checkin available disk space

odd :-/
[Droid RAZR M General] wankelrx8:
GSM?

I am on 4.1.2, 98.15.66, locked, rooted, and running GSM on T-Mobile. I used the Radiocomm edit to make GSM work. Then I uninstalled some bloatware after rooting. My phone runs pretty well as long as I don't install too many apps. I think I also disabled the update checker because I wanted to be able to unlock the boot loader one day, but never did.

If I go back to stock 4.1.2, then take the KK update, will I lose my GSM? If so, would I be able to just do the Radiocomm edit again?
[Droid RAZR M General] mrkhigh:
If you update you will lose root and not be able to change radios. You need to unlock the boot loader at least I would think so you could flash su to gain root to make radio changes. Fwiw I have done none of this but that's my understanding.
[Droid RAZR M General] kgtgv4:
Did this work?

Did this work? I find myself in the same predicament.
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
Moto servers!

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/moto-x-stock-wont-update-yesterday-t2754576
[Droid RAZR M General] AKShotgun:
Everything is back now and my update worked like a charm. On the phone last night moto insisted it wasnt their servers. I have no idea why?
[Droid RAZR M General] Leraeniesh:
So I popped my sim back into the XT907 for the weekend, and heres what I've noticed (when compared to 4.1.2).

Higher temps - previously, my XT907 hovered around 85F-100F, but with 4.4.2, I've noticed it drift toward 110F with 5+ minutes of active use.

Worse battery life - On 4.1.2 I averaged around 20% after 16 hours moderate use. With 4.4.2, I'm averaging around 5% in the same span.

Lesser LTE coverage - This may be something with my area, but I can usually get 2-3 bars of LTE in the Livingston County area on 4.1.2 (I've noticed the XT907 accel in this category). While on 4.4.2, I could not get any LTE coverage in the same area, and could only find it within more populated areas.

Slower performance - I'll always be amazed by how quick the XT907 was on 4.1.2, beating out devices with similar specs in the same price category. With 4.4.2, I've noticed frame drops, stutters, and random reboots be a common occurrence over the last few days of usage.

Overall, I'm satisfied with 4.4.2, but I still prefer the overall usability with 4.1.2.
[Droid RAZR M General] For_itembine:
i have the international version

before it was saying 'update not available, please try again

now its saying 'upto date' :( where is teh kitkat
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
I am not surprised.
[Droid RAZR M General] megaghostgamer:
I don't know about the performance being worse, my phone runs better but I did set it to run ART, but for the rest of the issues you have, I have occured as well except random reboots. My razr m isn't my daily so I lay it on my desk with WiFi on and it used to go to 6-7 days sitting and it now hits 3-5. I did set location to battery save and that didn't seem to impact it that much. Service I can't honestly say as I swapped to my incredible 4g LTE. My temps did ride way faster as well which makes a phone irritable to hold in my opinion.

Sent from my Droid Incredible 4G LTE
[Droid RAZR M General] MunchNBeaver:
I have had the Razr M about 10 months. I have been checking on the System Update for Kit Kat. This morning I checked and I got an update for 98.30.1 about 12.8 mb. I download, install, it reboots, shows the droid and blue bar, halfway it stops and shows the red exclamation mark and starts over, boots, and says update failed.stem

My first question is, do i need this update to get kit kat?

my second is why is this failing to update?

Im running it stock. system version 98.16.3.xt907.verizon.en.us

baseband sm_bp_101032.020.32.78p
[Droid RAZR M General] lem22:
There is no international version of the XT907. So, either you have the US (Verizon) version, then there are a lot of instructions here regarding the update process, or you have a different model (XT902, XT905 etc.) without an official KitKat update atm.

At least not for updating with RSD Lite and the XML file. But I believe yes for OTA.

OTAs are very sensitive. There are too many reasons for failing. You could have been rooted or deleted some stock apps or installed some odd stuff etc.
[Droid RAZR M General] MunchNBeaver:
At least not for updating with RSD Lite and the XML file. But I believe yes for OTA.

OTAs are very sensitive. There are too many reasons for failing. You could have been rooted or deleted some stock apps or installed some odd stuff etc.[/QUOTE

i was rooted at one time. i removed the root. and i have did a factory restore. i went into recovery and did it that way.

also, how can i add kit kat through another way???

thanks
[Droid RAZR M General] lem22:
Another way would be through RSD Lite.

You'll need RSD Lite and the zip file from here.

Then you just need to flash it to your phone. Something like this:

You can also find a more detailed manual here (PDF).
[Droid RAZR M General] MunchNBeaver:
Thank you. did all of that, installed kit kat. now the rsd still says in process, but phone is on and nothing is happening. I'm thinking about just unplugging it. keeps saying reboot, and it did reboot and install.
[Droid RAZR M General] wankelrx8:
After reading this, I think I'll stay on my rooted, carrier unlocked, 4.1.2 RAZR M. It's my daily, so I figure, why fix something that ain't broke?
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
I was thinking of staying on 4.1.2 until I discovered that audio worked out over USB OTG and that transparent nav bar was now available. I have a headphone amp that uses the cable, and I hate the burn in that the nav bar gets. I also had jitters ALL the time.

But I can see why a lot of people might stay on 4.1.2.
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
Also, I can't wait for a slim ROM or something without the bloat. I froze everything I do t need, would would love to go leaner. Still loving 4.4.2 :)
[Droid RAZR M General] Jersey846:
Glad to see somebody else talking about roms!
[Droid RAZR M General] Nick_73:
RAZR M got the official update yesterday
[Droid RAZR M General] Odboreas:
Guys, is there a root for 4.4 KitKat officially. Is that possible?

98.16.3 installed with root now, phone is locked.

I need to install 98.30.1 through RSD (Restore to stock factory firmware and unroot it)

After get OTA update. Right?

But here the main issue - root, I need to fix settings.db (via sqlite editor) - because it is the features of our local operator.

Is it possible to edit the database without root?
[Droid RAZR M General] Klen2:
There isn't root for locked devices

Odesláno z mého XT907 pomocí Tapatalk
[Droid RAZR M General] Odboreas:
I look through this post and discover that my version 9.8.1Q-78-1

Taking into i understand that prorably i can unlock my device, to save root using this, right?
[Droid RAZR M General] Klen2:
I think that the last unlockable is 9.8.1Q-66-1, but maybe i'm wrong, i'm not sure

Odesláno z mého XT907 pomocí Tapatalk
[Droid RAZR M General] MxPhenom 216:
Anyone know if taking an OTA update with an unlocked bootloader can cause issues with the update? As in getting stuck in a boot loop?
[Droid RAZR M General] Klen2:
Yes, it can. If you aren't 100% stock it will fail to install. And even if you are, it could fail (it's described here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52579253&postcount=138

Better way is to RSD:

http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=8
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
I just hope they don't take too long. The upgrade will be well appreciated.
[Droid RAZR M General] sloosecannon:
Not exactly. It's not possible to relock that we know of. It's very possible they could modify the bootloader to ignore that Qfuse. Or do some other shenanigans to make it relock. I'm sure it's possible though
[Droid RAZR M General] Specter597:
Pessimistic Proctology

Way to be a buzz-kill reasonably well thought out person.

Now my glass is half empty.

You're probably right.

::sigh::

But they'd have to be able to modify our bootloader without borking the DEV edition 905. Wouldn't that be more trouble than its worth?
[Droid RAZR M General] sloosecannon:
Lol yeah that was a bit of a buzz kill wasn't it?

Seeing as we've had 2 updates and they haven't done anything about that, I'm cautiously optimistic. As always though, if I do an update on stock, I wait for people to rip it apart and figure out if I would do anything unfortunate like re-locking the bootloader.

And about the Dev edition - it wouldn't really matter... Legit Dev edition users could probably just redo an OEM unlock via their site after the update. Inconvenient, yes, but do you think VZW cares about that?
[Droid RAZR M General] b0uncyfr0:
What is all this im reading of the Droid M not re-locking? I thought if i had been BL unlocked already and installed any of the recent updates, i would be BL locked again and permanently this time.

4.4 is sweet, but we dont even have 4.2, so how is going to roll out? Straight to 4.4, i dont think so. If this happens itll be in while.
[Droid RAZR M General] ATTACK:
They don't re-lock bootloaders through OTA updates. They only prevent lock bootloaders from using the unlock exploit.

Why not? It doesn't matter what android version you have. You could update to any version, hence flashing custom ROM's.
[Droid RAZR M General] motoroid7:
[MENTION=4427492]ATTACK[/MENTION] is correct. It's more logical for them to skip 4.2 and 4.3 and go straight to 4.4. They wouldn't waste time updating to an older version of Android when they've already said that it will be updated to 4.4.
[Droid RAZR M General] radorix:
Great to hear even though mine has an unlocked boot loader the rest of my family (4 additional phones) are all stock non rooted and they will appreciate some of the newer features. That and I'm sure our ROM devs will love some newer drivers
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
Yeah, being unlocked myself I am looking forward to customs without screen tearing and lag issues once devs appropriate the new kernel.

Or heck, a stock de-bloated would be great too!
[Droid RAZR M General] For_itembine:
Duh. I use 4.2 launcher apk... But you lose the circles widget and transparent navigation bar on the homescreen

The launcher and google chrome = laggy reviews
[Droid RAZR M General] zombolt:
Thanks for trying to be positive about it. How can an awesome device be so lame I don't get it
[Droid RAZR M General] AKShotgun:
Do you think we are going to get active display with this update? Are device is super amoled.
[Droid RAZR M General] Leraeniesh:
I doubt it. Moto is keeping it to X8 devices.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
Well see what magic the devs can work though.

There is an app on the market, DynamicNotifications, which does this in a simplified/not as good looking way as well. At least on mine the icon is a bit jagged.
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
I do recommend that everyone on an unlocked consumer device wait whenever this update hits. Not only could they find a way to bypass the unlock, but for all we know there could be a way for them to see a consumer device unlocked and just lock the whole thing.

Personally, I'll be waiting for a nice dev to give us a stock rom based on 4.4 that is verified safe. Let someone with expertise look under the hood before we all jump on the bus.
[Droid RAZR M General] Jersey846:
Regardless of what anyone says I'm waiting for a CM or AOKP of 4.4, so I'm good any way you slice it.
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
This is for both Dev and regular edition right?

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And I went back to stock just for this. I forgot just how much I like stock.
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
The update page says it is getting 4.4 on both the consumer and Dev editions, yes.
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Thanks. I just wish we knew when. Anybody have an idea?
[Droid RAZR M General] passsha:
early-2014 I hope
[Droid RAZR M General] slogar25:
Well I might be overly optimistic but they are already through most carriers for the moto x. I would think the new ultra line will be next...so we might see it before the end of the year. The fact that they announced the update tells me we are just waiting our turn
[Droid RAZR M General] netizenmt:
So, I was thinking about all this, and it would seem to me that if it were so easy to relock the bootloader once it's been locked, why wouldn't Motorola have done it before this? A fuse is a piece of hardware. If it's blown, you can't just tell the hardware to pretend it isn't. From a logical point of view, I think it is safe to assume that unlocked bootloaders will remain unlocked, just as it's safe to assume that locked bootloaders can no longer be unlocked by the previous exploit.

A second thought occurred to me: If the QFuse is an actual hardware item, could a talented electronics person physically open up an M and blow that fuse? And would that then allow the bootloader to be unlocked? Not for the faint of heart, to be sure.

Finally - I've been fooling around with the AOSP version of Kitkat, and I have to say, even in these early stages, it's pretty close to a daily driver. I've had the best luck with DHacker's version and I'm really interested in seeing what the devs will do with it from here. The Razr M is -not- dead, no matter what anyone says, and it is truly a flexible, powerful device.
[Droid RAZR M General] levizx:
Keep the good news coming Motorola!
[Droid RAZR M General] kiba99:
Yosh!!!

I can't wait.

But unlocked bootloader can ?
[Droid RAZR M General] SARM1084:
I think it was me who sparked this bootloader discussion back in post 3. But, until now (your post) I think I had a total misunderstanding of the unlocked bootloader / OTA relationship.

See, my interpretation of how the bootloader exploit worked was that

1. Had to be on 4.1.2 and not have taken the OTA (from a few months back).

2. Once unlocked we (end users or Dev community) would not be able to relock it.

3. Moto came out with an OTA after the exploit was discovered, and that OTA in essence blocked the exploit and relocked unlocked ones.

4. So now my phone has an unlocked bootloader, but if I take the latest OTA, Moto had figured out how to relock it perminently.

This was my understanding. But what most of you are saying, sounds as if, now that I have an unlocked bootloader I should be able to flash back to stock, and take any outstanding OTAs without fear of losing the unlock status. Is that correct?

Sorry for being long winded. But I have to say this is a fun topic. Thanks. :)
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
I think u misunderstood. Unlocked bootloader will remain unlocked. It's root access that is being disabled by the update. Once you take the update you will lose root if you don't back it up with voodoo, because you can't take the update with a rooted phone. It has to be stock.
[Droid RAZR M General] Murph28:
I took the update with a rooted phone. Lost root restored with voodoo.
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
Oh OK. I know I couldn't take this recent (98.30.1) update and I was only rooted. No custom rom. The only way I could it was to return to stock. May it depends on the method of root you use. If files get changed or removed and the update is looking for that specific file, update will fail. Thanks for that input Murph28.

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I didn't remove any stock system apps either. But I think we're getting off topic or maybe not. I speaking on the kit-kat update :p
[Droid RAZR M General] randomxlr907:
Will the update effect the phone if it is gsm unlocked does anyone know?:confused:
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
So I'm thinking of putting my RAZR m on straight talk instead of Verizon. Would I still get the update?
[Droid RAZR M General] camdecoster:
I think so. My wife has been using hers on Simple Mobile and she got notified of the latest update. It downloaded and installed without issue.

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The seem edit you made to unlock the GSM radios might get reset. This has happened to me for the last two updates. I had to go back and perform the edit again to unlock GSM.
[Droid RAZR M General] Brucifer5150:
4.4 is very nice on these devices I've tried both the ASOP (Dhaker) and the unoffical CM11 builds I'm running the CM11 and other then youtube not working I am very happy with it. On the ASOP build youtube works but MMS is broken and Bluetooth audio has some issues. As I use MMS and Bluetooth audio all the time and rarely if ever use youtube the choice was easy for me. That being said I can not wait for the official Motorola 4.4 so the devs will have a fresh build to work from. That is if I don't break down and get a LG G2 before then that thing is sexy. :D
[Droid RAZR M General] Germanese:
Gosh they 3 post after yours are even more confusing.

Yes, As thought once your boot-loader was unlocked with the Blown fuse exploit, you should be able to take the 4.1.2 OTA.

The OTA in question is the 4.4 that will come out. It is uncertain if they ever figured a way to re-lock with new Firmware.
[Droid RAZR M General] markdapimp:
When though? and how long will it take verizon to release it

*looks at galaxy s3 sitting on desk*
[Droid RAZR M General] sloosecannon:
Judging by moto's recent behavior, it can't be too long. The VZW X got 4.4 before some nexus devices did for example...
[Droid RAZR M General] Coronado is dead:
Yeah, we are living in crazy times lol.

From the Moto X 4.4 announcement to 4.4 being rolled out was only 3 weeks.
[Droid RAZR M General] whbisondtr:
I just got this phone for my daughter, and she wants me to root it, but wondering if i should wait until after the 4.4 update. I dont want to have to unroot then re-root, if thats the case.

RedBear's Evo 3D
[Droid RAZR M General] SARM1084:
My guess is that it all depends. For instance, there are root exploits on the market now for 4.1.2 (I'm assuming that's what your phone is on). But after the OTA to 4.4 there might not be one for a while. If you do root now, you could use Voodoo Root Keep. It try to keep your phone rooted after the 4.4 OTA (no promises).

I would do it, simply because regardless if you lose root your recovery will remain (it you install one). And you could make a backup of your current stock ROM too.

That's my 2¢. Hope it helps. :)
[Droid RAZR M General] whbisondtr:
Yeah shes on the 4.1.2. So she'll be able to update if shes rooted? Sorry for the questions, my phone has never had an update since ive had it so new to this part. Appreciate the help

RedBear's Evo 3D
[Droid RAZR M General] SARM1084:
I'm no expert by any means, but I'm certain root doesn't interfere with OTA updates. In order to get the update, one would have to be on the stock ROM. Oh and if you do lose root, a custom ROM can be installed (from recovery) that would have root access built in.

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There are already a few 4.4 custom ROMs for thus phone out there. But you would have to be Boot loader unlocked.
[Droid RAZR M General] whbisondtr:
Ok cool, she dont want me to put a rom on it lol, but good to know on the OTA's. Appreciate your time :beer:

RedBear's Evo 3D
[Droid RAZR M General] levizx:
yet moto g is set for a janurary update. razr m got no date so far.
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Is it possible to unlock this phone as gsm?
[Droid RAZR M General] St.Noigel:
It`s "world phone" and it works well with GMS carrier! ;)
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
I know that this isn't relevant to the thread but I have the cdma Verizon xt907 Razr M. How would I change it to gsm?
[Droid RAZR M General] pbanj:
there is a thread showing how in the help section
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Thanks. I'll check it out.
[Droid RAZR M General] chelsea_fc:
Well, all the latest moto is on kitkat now, its our turn to get it, iam currently on the CM11 and love it but there is some hiccups and lag, cant wait to get official and update kernel...
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
It can't get here quick enough. I'm ready!
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Cm 11 is great on this phone. Runs very smooth. I have it unlocked gsm on Red Pocket, an ATT MVNO. Everything works great except for having to edit the build.prop after every nightly update flash. If you're impatient like me, give it a try.
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
Not unlocked or rooted after the update.
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Was the update released?
[Droid RAZR M General] td030981:
Not the kit-kat undate

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The new build and radio
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Then what update are you taking about?

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Not unlocked as in gsm or boot loader?
[Droid RAZR M General] FirePsych:
What build.prop changes are you making?

Only changes I make are renaming MPdecision to .bak

Cuts down on BSOD a lot!

Also using msm-dcsv governor. Battery life is great.
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/how-and-patch-fully-enable-gsm-verizon-cdma-phones-android

There is a list on this site. Not all of the edits apply to this phone though.
[Droid RAZR M General] St.Noigel:
OFFTOP? :eek:

If you want to have GSM on Razr M - use this
[Droid RAZR M General] jhorton014:
Already have gsm on the phone. The issue is that it's very buggy and you can't send text messages when using cyanogenmod. But editing the build.prop fixes this.
[Droid RAZR M General] St.Noigel:
I can send messages with any AOSP ROM, using this fix! )) ;)
[Droid RAZR M General] openwheelracing:
Bump, I am waiting patiently for any news regarding official KitKat for RazrM
[Droid RAZR M General] ezknives:
Does project cupcake work on 4.1.2?
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
Is that similar to cheesecake?
[Droid RAZR M General] ezknives:
Lol ...yea it is cheesecake... My daughter was asking for a cup cake while I was typing it....
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
Let us know if you start hunting for the next build on the moto servers! & where it app is?
[Droid RAZR M General] ezknives:
I'll probably flash back to complete stock tonight and try it ... I should still have the apk on my d4 if not I'm sure google will find me a copy
[Droid RAZR M General] megaghostgamer:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samcripp.pca&hl=en <--- project cheesecake app via playstore
[Droid RAZR M General] aviwdoowks:
Ok!

Lets hunting!

If I understand the process, need to be on the latest ota/build (...94 or...1), virgin system . Does it still have the input/field bug?
[Droid RAZR M General] megaghostgamer:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1829884 is the thread with instructions but it hasn't been updated in a while and the latest device to be added was the RAZR I so I don't know if it'd work for us.