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[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
If you mention me, it doesn't matter if I'm subscribed to the thread or not.

i've never had to install Busybox separately to install Safestrap, normally the root utility will do that as part of rooting.

Are you using same safestrap version as before? file name?

I suspect that Busybox is incompatible with safestrap or safestrap is incomplete, or you need to factory reset.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Ahh, thanks so much for responding bud.

I used the firmware "4.1.2 -VRZ_XT894_9.8.2O-72_VZW-18-8_CFC.xml.zip" from your thread here

I rooted with RAZR BLADE as instructed by this website which said there was some kind of update for the firmware that I used. I did see your post to use SafeRoot, but that didn't do anything for me either, so I went back to RAZR BLADE.

The versions of SafeStrap that I've used came from Hash Code's website under the Droid 4 row and this thread by Hash Code. Right now I have 3.75 installed, but I did try 3.73 and 3.65 and 3.5.

I've also done a boot into Recovery (the Android Recovery where you hold the Volume Rocker) and I did a data and cache reset and tried to reinstall the Safestrap and stuff.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Yes, but did you verify md5 checksum, and there are 3 different mirrors...

razr blade is fine, there is a newer update (98.72.18-9) I have not seen FXZ/RSD lIte file for it, but any of the 98.72.18XX versions will work, if file is complete, correct RSD lite version is used, official Moto drivers are installed, and nothing else goes wrong...

some of the older safestrap versions are not compatible with newer ones... Please Post Filenames... verify md5 checksums

https://sites.google.com/site/sdshadowscollection/home/hash-checksums
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
I did not MD5 the firmware. I have my netbook here with me at work which is going amazingly slow, so I will try to get that checked before I leave in an hour (otherwise I will be home at 8pm EST and be able to continue on my actual computer, so hopefully you'll still be around!)

I have RSD Lite 5.7 and the Motorola Device Utility thing for drivers.

I downloaded an app called Busy Box Installer to see what version I have and it says the following information:

Right now, I have Safestrap 3.75, so that should be compatible with things, right? It is the newest Safestrap as far as I knew.

UPDATE: I just did an MD5 on the firmware and confirmed that it is the correct version, matching the hash EE0C8151934B5893F58E58DAEA90E1B3.

And because you asked before, all of my Safestrap files are named "Safestrap-Maserati-3.73.apk" or 3.75.apk
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Yes, but there has been issues trying to install newer safestraps over older, if the older version was not uninstalled correctly.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, so should I re-SBF or is there something else I should do?

If this is becoming too much for you to post about whether in this thread, I can direct you to a thread I made about it or if you want to chat, I can send you my gmail or something too
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
I would factory reset, flash cdma_maserati_9.8.2O-72_VZW-18-2_1ff.xml.zip, factory reset

root with saferoot http://xdaforums.com/droid-4/development/root-droid-4-xt894-jellybean-saferoot-t2816462

use the busybox included with saferoot.

reinstall Safestrap-maserati-v3.75.apk
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, downloading that new firmware now. I will try to flash it to the phone while I am on the train home.

Busybox is automatically installed as part of the root process with Saferoot, right? I don't have to do anything extra (outside of the first step saying Y if I recall), right?

I got Saferoot from that XDA post that you send in the link.

And I will install that version of Safestrap, 3.75 again.

hope you can hang around to help me out in two hours when I get home. One day is long enough without a phone!
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Update from the road: I managed to flash the firmware. I rooted with SafeRoot fine and BusyBox installed with SafeRoot. I have not run any apps to check if both are in fact installed, but the processes claimed to install successfully.

Safestrap is still having the same issue somehow though. It gets to 60/100 and hangs

Thoughts?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
My guess is that part of the old safestrap is surviving the flashing and factory reset.

Are you getting superuser allow/deny popup?

usb debugging is checked?

Do you know the version of safestrap that was working? if so retry that version
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
How could anything survive an SBF? I thought that's like wiping the slate clean.

I don't actually remember which version of Safestrap that I used until a day ago. Maybe 3.73? I took 3.75 from the first page of this thread where stargo recommended that's what people use. I do get the initial SU pop up when I first start Safestrap. Nothing after I press Install Recovery though, not sure if I am supposed to though. It seems to go so seamless in all of the Youtube videos showing Safestrap...

USB debugging is definitely checked because you have to do that in order to get the phone to be able to root.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
there are no SBFs for Droid 4, motorola stop using SBFs several devices ago. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39762822&postcount=16

That's the idea, but flashing isn't perfect. It's possible the flash is failing at some point, but not throwing an error.

maybe try the Safestrap-debug.apk

or try flashing with the [SCRIPT] DROID 4 Utility XT894 Jellybean -- Windows + Mac + Linux (All In One!) - Video

and could try installing old safestrap with the utility, if that works we can work on upgrading if needed .
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Hahahaha, I had no idea about that. I really was using that improperly, so sorry about the confusion.

Okay, that could be possible I suppose. I would just be surprised with the number of flashes I've done and consistency of the issue.

Am I trying the debug.apk after I uninstall the 3.75 apk? Or do I reflash the firmware and then try the debug in place of the 3.75 or any of the alternatives?

Do I try the debug before I use the DROID 4 Utility bat?

UPDATE: I did an uninstall of the Safestrap (3.75) that was on the phone and installed the debug version. I noticed that has a 3.75 in the bottom left too, like the other version. Not sure if that is supposed to be there or means anything, just noting it. That also hangs at 60%. I'll try a reboot just to be sure, but I got the same results, same SuperSU prompt and then just a hanging progress bar...
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
no worries

we are in unknown territory, and I'm suggesting things that may work.

Your droid 4 may have a hardware failure of some kind.

try the Safestrap-debug.apk

then then the utility

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also please avoid editing your post to add info,

use the edit option to correct spelling, grammer...

I don't get notifications of edits
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Damn, that's disconcerting to hear.

What kind of hardware failure do you think this could be indicative of? I rarely drop the thing and I take good care of my belongings, but I did notice that (aside from the Reddit is Fun issue that started this snowball on Sunday) after it slipped off my desk, that's when I first really started having the very weird issues. The lagging went away after a while, but that was before I dropped it. I have Asurion insurance :-\ And I'm not sure how good they are, but I know it would suck to have to mail them a phone and be phoneless for a while, and hope that they would fix or replace whatever is wrong here...

Okay, since the debug didn't work as a replacement for the 3.75, should I reflash that firmware you suggested a few posts back and try rooting and using the debug as my Safestrap?

And if I need to use the Utility, which options should I choose? Should I wipe in it or anything else?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
try flashing with the utility, use the flash with wipe option, then try installing the safestrap app with the utility
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Flashed with the utility, but at the end, it just said that it was going to reboot and press enter to exit. I am still on the Fastboot screen, and I noticed at the top, the first line reads:

Does that mean anything of significance? I can try and power it off to boot it back up if you think that's all good.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
hardware can fail at any time, and the Droid 4 is getting old, guessing it's a flash memory failure, it may be temporary

another thing that could be tried is wiping system with moto-fastboot.exe

try

moto-fastboot erase system

reflash with utility, RSD Lite or moto-fastboot.exe

or wipe everything

moto-fastboot erase boot
moto-fastboot erase system
moto-fastboot erase cache
moto-fastboot erase userdata
moto-fastboot erase webtop
moto-fastboot erase preinstall
moto-fastboot reboot
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, I will attempt this now.

Also, does the Recipe Failure on the AP Fastboot screen mean anything? It never rebooted itself after the Utility did it's thing.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
(Recipe Failure) is unusual, only seen one other Droid 4 user post that and was fixed with

Use RSDLite 6.6 (or newer) with the following settings:

Flash options: Restart after flexing and TI Blank flash

Use image files and delete files on exit

Can't remember, did you say Windows 7, 8? win 7 prefered

usb 2.0, 3? usb 2.0 prefered
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Verizon isn't going to do anything for you. Rooting voids the warranty
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
I know, but if I say that there's a memory failure and it needs to be fixed, they can't tell if it's been rooted if I flash a new firmware to it. If they are easy enough to just hand me a new phone (which I know they probably won't especially for a model so outdated), then I'm in a better position. Or if I have to send it to Asurion who can repair those kinds of things, then I guess that's just as good too.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Warranty was only one year anyways.
[Motorola Droid 4] Ohmster:
Small question Stargo

Please excuse me folks. Michael pays more attention to this group because this is the model phone he has. I would like to ask him a polite question, the answer I expect is a polite"no" but it does no harm to ask. Thank you for your patience. :)

[MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION] since CM11 development for OMAP4 is officially dead and any and ALL new builds we get are from you, can I ask a small favor/question? I expect a polite "no" but no harm in asking.

I love to do my updates OTA. Since gapps and apps are already installed and up to date, it makes sense for the OTA installer script to wipe system, cache, and dalvik, install the zip, and reboot. Previously we would go to:

Settings/About Phone/CyanogenMod Updates

and tap to download the list of available roms to download them, then tap the "door" icon to install what is already downloaded. I still use this method with your UNOFFICIAL builds, but I must place the rom file in /sdcard/cmupdater manually. Now all we see in CM Updates are CM12, which we could never update OTA style so this makes no sense at all.

Is it possible?

Would you be interested in or might want to?

Or get in a lot of trouble with CyanogenMod if you were to include in /Settings/About Phone/CyanogenMod Updates, an Update URL setting so that we could enter our own URL to cm11 updates, currently the following URL:

http://droid.cs.fau.de/cm-11.0/unofficial/

Then instead of seeing "cm-12.1" as OTA updates on a cm11 phone, we would see your UNOFFICIAL updates which are in high demand and are really the only thing/place we have to get updates anymore.

Micheal, if this is difficult,

don't do it.

If it might get CM pissed off at you for doing this,

don't do it.

If you have a bad feeling about this,

don't do it.

And if you don't feel like doing it, then of course,

don't do it

my friend.

...but it sure would be useful. That CyanogenMod Updates section is about as useful as boobs on a porcupine. Even if you could get your hands on them, you for sure would not do it because it would be much too painful to be fun! :laugh:

If you look at my screenshot, the ONLY useful or working updates are the ones I put there myself. The yellow roms populated by CyanogenMod are all CM12, "which cannot be installed or updated to via OTA" from cm11. Pretty gosh darned useless now. Maybe we could use that space for a game of Asteroids perhaps? ;)

Thanks for the new roms, Micheal. On behalf of myself and all of the members of the [ROM][4.4.4][CDMA/GSM] Official CM11 Nightlies (Updated 3/23/15) by ktimque thread, we do all thank you, very, very much! :good:
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
I pay for the monthly insurance, so I don't know what that gets me, but I imagine it must be something.

Is there any other option that I have other than Safestrap for Recovery in order to get a custom ROM on this phone?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
See BMM in the index
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, so I found this thread about BMM for the Droid 4 with a link to com.projectlense.bootmenu.manager in the Play Store, but that looks like it's been taken down.

So is there a version out there that I should look for? Is it a viable option if I can track down the apk or is there more to know about it?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Try requesting in that thread.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Well, I did get an apk copy of BMM and installed it and booted into the Recovery. No idea why Safestrap wouldn't take on my phone when this worked on the first try...

Anyway, I have BMM v0.3.4 &CWM v6.0.1.6.

I am having trouble installing the zip for this ROM though. I followed the instructions in this video on BMM (one of the few in English out there), and I chose System 2. I keep getting:

"E: Error in /int/cm-11-20150426-UNOFFICIAL-maserati.zip

(Status 6)"

Anyone out there have any ideas or experience with this? Are these ROMS compatible with BMM as a ZIP?
[Motorola Droid 4] viper2035:
Hi I tried the Version from 26-04-15 on my droid 4. I need Bluetooth 4.0 BLE to connect my Casio G-Shock GB5600B but it doesn't work. I can find the watch but connecting doesn't work. Is BLE broken in this build? Which one can I try? Thanks for help

EDIT: I got it worked. sorry
[Motorola Droid 4] Puppymang:
you may not want to send it back to them if youve been tampering with the system until you manage to flash the stock firmware completely

i think they just send you something they consider "equal value" and the droid 4 has been discontinued for a while they may not have any left now but dont take my word for it
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
So I was able to get the ROM installed on System 1 with BMM. I searched this thread and resolved the Status 6 issue that I was encountering by using [MENTION=5003013]Mentor.37[/MENTION] 's updater-script found here.

I don't know if I'm beyond your area of expertise, but I could use some help nailing down the final issues.

My ROM is lagging still, pretty badly. I installed it on System 2 at first and it is still there, so would it help me to wipe that out? Does anyone know how I would go about that? I seem to only be able to Activate the partition, not destroy.

I see under About Phone that my Memory is 839 MB. Is that correct? Did I not partition the System properly?

Anyone who sees this with any BMM experience or knowledge, please contact me or reply here!
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Yes, that is why in the index I have a link to [Patch] Patch to change Boot Manager Menu partitions layout for System_2 by Mentor.37

Ram memory or storage memory?

Probably is correct, as it cannot be changed.

System 2 uses

/preinstall (~ 600mb) for /system

/webtop (~ 1,4gb) for /data

Ram and caches are same as stock slot
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, must have missed that. Found it on my own though, so I guess it worked out. The GApps was a tough one though because it just came with the basics.

I was referring to what I assume is the RAM memory that's the info located under Settings > About Phone. I was wondering if that amount had been compromised in some way.

So what you're saying about System 2 I found on [MENTION=5003013]Mentor.37[/MENTION] 's webpage. Does that mean there is more memory and system space allocated on System 2 than on System 1? Should I install the ROM on a Virtual slot (which I guess would be 3, 4, 5, or 6?)?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
don't know which gapps version you used, if mentor.37's yes it's just the bare bones, but everything else should be available in playstore

not by BMM

No system one(stock) is larger

Virtual slots are only available with safestrap, mentor.37 has modified 3.75 to also use system 2(Webtop/Preinstall) link is in the index.

Can't think of any reason that would work, when stargo's 3.75 does not.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, then I guess it's fine just to let it update on its own.

In BMM, there are actually 6 slots. As far as I had understood, System 1 was Stock, System 2 was Webtop, and System 3-6 were virtual ones. My interpretation could be wrong, but I was just checking that one of those virtual ones were not better places for the ROM.

So now I guess my biggest issue is figuring out why it is so slow. Are there any performance things I should check and make sure the ROM is running properly? There's no way it could have been switched to ART as opposed to Dalvik, right? (Not sure if that's actually a thing, but I'm just shooting out ideas to see if there's anything you can think of).
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Stock Rom is

System size: 636MB Formatted

Data size: 3078MB Formatted

There several other Gapps options, but because the System 2's system partition is small, if the Gapps package is too big install will fail

I use the PA Pico or Micro for the system 2 roms links in my Gapps list
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, well I did wipe the System 2 of data and cache. for a brief moment, after I switched from Trebuchet to Google Now launcher, my phone sped up to normal speed, but then I rebooted and it went back to lagging speed.

I can't use the regular GApps as far as I understand because they can't be flashed in BMM, right?

Another problem is that my Google Contacts will not sync to my phone for some reason. My Google Play Store apps all show up in my account and I'm logged in fine, but I have nothing under People and my Google Account is added under Settings.
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Ohmster has written

Guide: CM11 Performance and Maintenance on XDA Developers

it's written for the razr xt912, but there is so little difference from the Droid 4, settings sould be the same
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Just updating because I feel that I need to share, but something's ****ed up here...

The ROM I had going on my D4 was running amazingly slow like I mentioned. The battery life was shot, just awful. I'd get maybe an hour of SOT.

I went on eBay and located a brand new D4 and just tried to root that. First thing I noticed was that when RAZR Blade went to root the phone and reboot it as part of the process, the new phone, like my old one, would not reboot on its own. I had to hold the Power button to get it to turn off and reboot. Is there any chance this could be related to why my other phone had issues? Maybe the root process wasn't completing in some fraction of a way?

This thing still has the plastic screen protectors on it. There's no way that should experience the same issue.

Then, when it did root, I installed Safestrap. I used v3.73, should work no problem. I go in and try to install recovery.

IT HANGS AT 60/100.

How does a new phone, completely different device, have the same issue as my old one?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Bad safestrap download?
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
I'm using the one from Hashcode's website. There's only one option for Maserati, no?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
[MENTION=3457922]stargo[/MENTION] has released a updated safestrap (v3.75 - Jan 2015)

Cm12 requires safestrap v3.75 (or newer)

Safestrap-XXXXX-v3.75.apk (31-Jan-2015 )

Download the version for your device

Droid 4 = maserati, Razr XT912 = spyder, Razr XT910 = umts_spyder, Bionic = targa

[Video] How to install Safestrap 3.75 and Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on the Motorola Droid Bionic, Droid 4 and Droid Razr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yMYUXV8FmI

if you have a XT912 or XT894, There is a Modified Safestrap 3.75 for unused partitions (/preinstall & /webtop) by Mentor.37

XT894: http://xdaforums.com/droid-4/development/wip-safestrap-3-75-unused-partitions-t3023932

XT912: http://xdaforums.com/droid-razr/development/recovery-safestrap-3-75-unused-t3032675

Note: Mentor.37 has removed the Safestrap splash screen, so you must select reboot to recovery from rom or Boot to safestrap from Stock Boot Mode Selection Menu

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Could be that your virus protection is removing part of safestrap, without notification.

Haven't seen anyone with any issue with safestrap, but happens with root tools often.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Do SD cards in the phone ever present an issue in this process?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Not that i know of...
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Okay, well here's what just happened. Might be a case study for Android...

I have this 8GB Micro SD Card that I got from TigerDirect in one of those Free After Rebate deals. I've been using it in my Droid 4 since I got it. Never bothered to move the 16GB Sandisk one that came with my OG Droid from my Droid 3 to the Droid 4 when I upgraded...

Anyway. I went to download Safestrap directly to the phone because maybe somehow Malwarebytes or AVG Free, my only antivirus, was corrupting Safestrap. I downloaded 3.72 because on Hashcode's Safestrap download page here, it says 3.72. I assume that's just the product of an old website, but I'm trying anything here. I install and run and get stuck at 60/100. ****.

I restarted the phone for some reason, I forget why, and when it was booting up, I saw the familiar face of that Safestrap Zombie... I have no idea why, but it hung on the phone and then I was able to boot into Safestrap Recovery.

Now, the issue was that I needed to get the SD Card, which I had taken out of the phone earlier, back into the phone. I powered down and inserted the card, but this time, on reboot, after hitting Boot into Recovery, the screen was just black with the backlight. I slid the card out and the phone proceeded into Recovery...

I know with PCs that sometimes peripherals will cause an issue with booting, but I never experienced this with cell phones.

I don't know if this is all a coincidence, but I am currently having trouble getting my ROM and PA GApps onto the SD Card. I can't mount the thing in Recovery and my Sandisk one is having problems too. Currently running a defrag and System Error Check to see if anything changes.

I am very curious, once I get some time this week, that if I try to wipe my original D4 and use Safestrap without the SD Card whether or not that will function.

Has any of what I said here touched on any known issues?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
Use the internal storage
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
One step ahead of you.

I'm just very confused how the SD Card could have caused all of this hell. Do you think I should invest in a new one? Does this happen sometimes?
[Motorola Droid 4] sd_shadow:
They don't last forever.

You reformatted?

Could try reformatting using different file systems.

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Flash memory may not have moving parts, but it's still hardware, and hardware fails eventually.
[Motorola Droid 4] joefuf:
Haven't reformatted yet. There's still data on the card that I want to grab. Might get the phone set up tonight and begin a file transfer and see what migrates by the morning. I might as well buy one since I technically got this one for free, but I will try a reformat first.

What filesystems are compatible with Droids for the SD Card? I remember reading something in this thread about exFAT and someone having issues. Any formatting guides?
[Motorola Droid 4] Puppymang:
id say go with fat32 if your sd cards are 8/16gb