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[General Topics] MT27i:
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But, ART didn't support all of the apps.

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[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Absolutely - TB has been working since about week 3 of the rollout of 4.4! I use it all the time running ART ;) hmm wait, perhaps that's just on the devices I use s2/s4, possibly other devices not working, it would be interesting to know. What device do you use and have you tried?
[General Topics] FlanjeUK:
Well I only have 1 device, my s4 and it runs fine here, had issues with Slims built in SU but flashing SuperSU fixed it and now it's faster than ever :P

Sent from my 9505GTi
[General Topics] tynelittles:
ART on GNEX

ART is working perfectly on CM11 nightly for Gnex. Opera is the only App having problems loading
[General Topics] aioan:
I use it on nexus 5. No noticeable speed improvement here but as said before this is a very fast device anyway.

I think the battery last longer but I will have to do a good test to verify.
[General Topics] predateur1:
I am using Titanium Backup without any issue's at the moment, I did have problems with it but after flashing Alucard's Kernel and SuperSU 1.86 my phone has never been faster.
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Latest supersu is 1.93 - you may want to consider updating ;)

http://download.chainfire.eu/382/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
[General Topics] Kenobz:
Anybody still using ART???
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Absolutely - it's a bit like crack for your android, one hit and it's very difficult to go back, I swapped back to dalvik for a while and used xposed but discovered on returning to ART performance was noticeably improved.

So yes - still using ART, I suspect I'm not alone ;)
[General Topics] FlanjeUK:
Definitely still using ART here, pretty much the same set up as Jim, same reasons... it really is much faster & smoother than dalvik ;)

Sent from my 9505GTi
[General Topics] tynelittles:
ART on GNEX

Yes im using it and Opera Mini still gives me problems and besides that its flawless on my Galaxy Nexus. Speed has increased and battery has improved with time
[General Topics] Technical:
I really did not experience any difference. Cons: ART has a much slower built up time after flashing a ROM though, uses more space in the disk, does not allow the use of XPosed modules.
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
I saw an xposed module I really wanted to use so have (for the time being) gone back to dalvik vm - I do notice a slight decrease in performance but can't say whether this is due to xposed framework or dalvik rather than ART - I will for sure test further and feed back here.
[General Topics] AnaIysiS:
ART will support Xposed?
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Rather xposed does not support ART ATM :eek:
[General Topics] sonicviking:
Actually ART or Xposed is a question. If Xposed supports ART, I will use it asap.

Sent from my LG-D802 taptalk
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Sorry, outrageous I was not clear enough for you - xposed will not work on ART - it actually has a fail safe which switches back to dalvik if you try to run it on ART!
[General Topics] ==vj==:
ART is simply great on Moto G. Even though its called experimental, from my experience its more stable than Dalvik. Not just it improved overall smoothness and opening of apps, it also solved few minor conflict sort of bugs alike while 2G/3G switching mainly. Battery backup is nearly the same on both but still ART seems better overall having tried numerous kernels and roms and checked dalvik-art on them :)

I have a query, Some devices running kitkat do not have ART runtime switch option in developer options. Devices alike LG K240L. In such whether a build.prop edit of choosing the runtime engine to libart.so enable ART on that device..?
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Good question, unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to answer but I'm sure some will here in the community.

I do know that both s4 and s5 running stock 4.4 do not have option to switch to ART at this time, I don't know if that has been overcome in modified stock 4.4 in these devices??
[General Topics] ==vj==:
Thank you :) I had come across a thread in HTC One development HERE its about creating a option in Settings list for switching to ART. But i was wondering for something lazy and simpler like a build.prop edit :p as there is a line there about choosing runtime. Anyway thank you for answering mate :good:
[General Topics] Bannix:
As long as xposed doesn't support ART, dalvik's my best friend ;)
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
This may be of interest to any (like me) waiting for xposed supporting ART ;)

'As is the case with all major development projects, Xposed has grown quite a bit in the past couple of years since its inception. It’s evolved to retain compatibility with newer OS builds, and will even be reworked to be compatible with the alternate ART runtime in the not too distant future.'
[General Topics] kadoc01:
everything is very green but art without hesitation:confused:
[General Topics] ChristianLetti:
My Nexus 5 with ART seems alot smoother :)
[General Topics] andre0005:
I also have the feeling that my Find7a is a bit faster running art. Also batterylife got a little bump. Could be placebo though.
[General Topics] sachin.parmar100:
I too feel that my phone feels a lot smoother and snappier than it was on dalvik while i don't notice any major battery life improvement.
[General Topics] livein:
On which android verse can i get art ?
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
4.4.x onwards ;)
[General Topics] suhasdutta:
art is better
[General Topics] mtwx:
No big difference. With much apps opened art is even slower
[General Topics] Octanium91:
ART better. But if device support ART.
[General Topics] leomd333:
I have been running ART since KK came out, i have noticed a slight increase in speed with app opening times and general enviroment speed. But it has a few small issues, one is the fact that app install time is nearly doubled another is that when wiping cache and Dalvik cache, it takes ages for the cache to optimise again on boot.
[General Topics] rushless:
How much additional net internal storage space is needed for ART compared to Davlvik?
[General Topics] galaxys:
ART on 4.4.4 is very smooth & fast for me...
[General Topics] axljohn:
While high-end phones don't (and won't) have much problems regarding performance irregardless of ART or Dalvik, I think it's the mid- to low-end phones that's getting a slight performance boost on ART. Apps open faster but at the cost of 0.10% app data increase, which is the only downside. :( Still, it's a great thing how Android evolved through the years and Google is really making a good job. :good:

Can't wait for L :D
[General Topics] ireydn:
I think for today, Dalvik is better, because ART can't support all application today. Maybe next generation of Android can be better use ART, because ART more fast.
[General Topics] axljohn:
just like the dawn of ics, apps may not be compatible at first.. but give them some time, material will be in and holo will be next to gingerdeath
[General Topics] kycity:
same here :laugh:
[General Topics] PetBel:
No problems on my old HTC Sensation with ART. Looks like its a bit faster and battery life is a bit better.
[General Topics] wonsky21:
Ok, so my experiences with art are not good so far. Everytime I tried to switch to ART with all my apps already installed ended up with countless fc's, no matter what I did. I tried everything. You read in SlimSaberKat thread about my adventures :)

Now i tried something different... I managed full wipe, flashed only rom and gapps, and switched to ART - no problems. Then I restored some of my apps (only, without data) and reboot, no problems. Now I'm in the middle of restoring rest of my apps (with data), I'm restoring 10-15 apps, and reboot, next 10-15, and reboot. So far so good.
[General Topics] teonagode:
The same thing that i did, ART rocks :D

Sent from my Nexus 5 running AICP 5.0
[General Topics] East2West:
ART Beta

I've was glad to see ART available to use on my Moto X but ultimately stayed with Davlik as most customizations like the Xposed module did not work. ART did seem to provide a performance and battery life boost though. I have not heard any other news on it since. Are they still planning to release it with the next Android release?
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Quote from XDA news here

BREAKING: Next Major Version of Android to Finally Remove Dalvik and Set ART as Default!

POSTED JUNE 19, 2014 AT 3:30 AM BY WILL VERDUZCO

Ever since we first saw ART appear alongside the release of Android 4.4 KitKat, we all knew that it would eventually replace the aging and relatively inefficient Dalvik runtime compiler. Well folks, the time is now upon us, as commits made late last night to the AOSP master branch show Dalvik getting the axe and ART being set as the default.

The changes in question are in the form of merged commits 98553 and 98618. The former is responsible for the removal of Dalvik from the AOSP master branch, and the latter switches the default runtime compiler to ART.

The changes in their full glory can be seen below:

Dalvik is dead, long live Dalvik! DO NOT MERGE

croot

cd libcore

repo start dalvik-is-dead-long-live-dalvik .

repo sync -c .

git rm -r libdvm

git add JavaLibrary.mk (after removing libdvm references, adding explict core-libart references)

git add Docs.mk (after replacing references to libdvm with libart)

git add benchmarks/Android.mk (after adding explict core-libart references)

git add Android.mk (after removing dalvik-host target)

git commit -a -m ‘Dalvik is dead, long live Dalvik! DO NOT MERGE’

Switch from core to core-libart

Well folks, the merges speak for themselves. Dalvik is dead, long live Dalvik! And judging from how workable ART has become over the past several months, Dalvik probably won’t be missed—at least not after XDA Senior Recognized Developer rovo89 releases an ART-compatible build Xposed Framework.

[Source: AOSP Code Review (Changes 98553 and 98618)]

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[General Topics] teonagode:
Yes ART will be the default java virtual machine emulator in Android L.

Sent from my Nexus 5 running AICP 5.0
[General Topics] kantjer:
Switched to ART a week ago and the only drawback is the longer initial boot but apart from that it's performing great.

Boot time is better (except initial boot after converting and after ROM flash), apps open faster and battery life is improved.
[General Topics] little_lerroyy:
Im using SultanXDA's 4.4.4 rom for the sensation XE and it is fantastic. The ART runtime really is a great improvement. However i feel when the phone has been on for a while it seems to perform quite sluggish. I feel this is due to the low system RAM it has. I think if your device has a decent 1GB or more RAM, ART will be really nice.

However I've managed to install an ap called "Auto Memory Manager" When set to mild or aggressive, it seems to improve and almost remove the sluggishness i find from ART on low memory devices over a period of time.
[General Topics] Alex87pa:
Placebo effect for me, i prefer optimized dalvik and xposed
[General Topics] wonsky21:
All I can say that there's no way back for me. After few days on ART I can clearly see my battery life improved, all seems to be faster (apps open faster) etc. Now I'm eaiting for Xposed to be compatible with ART and I'm good. ART FTW :)

GT-I9505 | SlimSaberKat 4.4.4 jflte by kantjer
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Yeah same for me - rovo89 has said that once new L is released he will start working on making it compatible but until then he won't bother because Google is continually changing the android framework and it is to much work to make compatible with kk only to have to recode everything again for L
[General Topics] wonsky21:
Yeah, I read it too, rovo89's statement was even posted on XDA portal main page... So I'm waiting patiently and hope [MENTION=3306843]kantjer[/MENTION] will find workaround for some neat modules I (we) used :)

GT-I9505 | SlimSaberKat 4.4.4 jflte by kantjer
[General Topics] andreilp34:
i prefer art :good:
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
I think he already is ;)
[General Topics] AgungMantab:
Some day yesterday I tried using the "ART" on MTK device that I have, the Lenovo S860 (kitkat 4.4.2, official). experience:

The battery feels more durable than the previous default when I use "Dalvik".

Open the application is very fast and does not lag in its animation.

If there is a notification comes in, a normal tone of voice (sometimes earlier sound

was low at the time "Dalvik")

Time to display web pages noticeably faster. (using wifi and bandwidth as well as the same position)

note : I did not change the previous build.prop. I changed the build.prop just to "bootanimation off"

My question:

Whether the notification sound influence on the use of "ART" ?

Whether the "ART" optimize network ?

I do not quite understand the influence on the sound notification and connection when using the "ART"

sorry for my english :)
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
not sure I ever noticed any change in notification sound but not saying that couldn't be so. The premise of ART is to compile app code into something much more near native to Android and thus make loading of apps more effiicient meaning faster opening because the code is already compiled rather than JIT leading to possibly less power consumption.

More will be revealed in new Android L when Dalvik will be dead and ART default and ready for release in prime time -

'DALVIK IS DEAD - LONG LIVE DALVIK' ;)
[General Topics] ron9:
Only downside with ART is the time consuming compiling after installing rom. ???
[General Topics] AgungMantab:
thanks for the explanation.

ART is proven to make the battery on my mobile so long lasting endless, very different than the use of Dalvik.

ART is the best :good:
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Omg yes. I had to stop flashing nightlies every morning.
[General Topics] galaxys:
It is slow on the first boot after flashing! I usually go out to diner and its done when we return! :D
[General Topics] FrancoNote:
For me ART is more speed but is experimental phase .. Don't 100% Stable
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Really? Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'Don't 100% stable' ?
[General Topics] FrancoNote:
I have several reboot to launch app on ART, not you ? : Confus:
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Nope - I would suggest that is ROM/kernel related depending on hard or soft reboots. We have been using ART long time no such issues ever reported, probably a coincidence that you get reboots now, but one way to be sure is to go back to dalvik and see if you get the same behavior.
[General Topics] FrancoNote:
I go bah to dalvik and i don't have a reboot, but i using cyanogenmod (official) on my note 2
[General Topics] Radigen:
Sir, athough ART has become more stable over the years and is recently getting "TRENDY" among developers, I have discovered some "minor" incompatibilities with the ART system. For now, some Apks have a trouble of being installed if they cannot be directly translated into ART bytecode. What i mean by this is that Dalvik is much relative to Java in terms of that translation. However, after testing countless times on my devices and knowing that ART is indeed much more efficient and faster, the applications that have trouble getting installed had a maximum target SDK in their Manifest.XML file lower than Android 4.4.2.

I wish to confirm this, if my individual research has proven wrong, I will try to make solutions to make ART a mandatory compiled code system in the Android platform.
[General Topics] Jsilver73:
Ah, that, I think that is better described as certain apks incompatibility with ART rather than ART instability ;) and those apks had better catch up else they will be history on the release of L as dalvik is no more and ART is default :cowboy:
[General Topics] Radigen:
Yes, exactly, I have just confirmed by coincidence just now. Indeed if app developers have not increased their target SDK version by the time Android L's final build is completed they're just gonna have a hard time marketing apps into the Google Playstore. By what I have I seen Android improve upon in such a short period of time, it is unthinkable that it will upgrade faster than what we expect the normal cycle of technological advancement to be completed in such a short period of time.
[General Topics] carlbreen:
Does CM11 on I9100 already use ART and beginning at what date, if so?
[General Topics] HzMeister:
seenerebvess

So, I tried art on the stock moto g rom and everything seemed to run fine(and fast) aside from an app or two launching slowly. But when trying it on several custom roms an essential background process would always crash rendering the phone unusable. I can't wait for android L to come out. Making art the default runtime will force it to become great. It's still in it's infancy so it seems that it's not really any better than an optimized custom rom in speed and fluidity at this point.
[General Topics] JokerK:
I used to try ART on One M8 with Viper One 2.2.0 and I notice definitely lag from time to time, also when i wipe Dalvik Cache and after reboot tine for update applications is much more its around for 300 apps ART- 6-8 min DALVIK- 1-2 min. So on this stage i will stay with dalvik.
[General Topics] master66:
I have shifted fron dalvik to art on my LG pad 8.0 and have noticed that art is less demanding on tablet resources
[General Topics] Rayman96:
Because ART precompiles apps and dalvik does not, so it is faster at this point.

<facepalm>
[General Topics] dreamwave:
Why did we not have a precompiling solution before? Why is art the first? Jit is cool but i dont see why they didnt move to a more practical solution that completely compiled them and saved that in cache.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] aladdin2101:
Hi everybody,

Here you can post your experience about the slippy grip of your mobile (especially N7100), and how you've got rid of it; either with using special casing or without using any casing.

Thanks for your participation.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vantt1:
I didn't. The Note 2 needs to be slippery for me so it can slip into my pocket.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] aladdin2101:
I tried to use casing, but itmakes mobile looks bigger, also I removed the chrome from the bezel thinking it will help, although it looks more fun to me but still very slippery. I'm searching here and there, the only reasonable solution is to replace the battery cover with one like Note3 battery cover, but it's not available in markets in my country, I have to go through ebay or amazon :mad:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Optimistic Pessimist:
If you're willing to try; you could spray it with Plasti-Dip http://www.plastidip.com/

It will give your phone a rubbery/grippy feel, but is easily removed if needed.

You could either spray the battery cover with it, or also spray the bezel as well for ultimate grip.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
I use an Imak Cowboy shell case; it has a really nice/grippy texture and adds very little bulk to the phone. You can pick them up for $10 on eBay.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] aladdin2101:
Could you share some photos?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cpm:
I find the Ringke Slim case adds a nice level of grip, or rather adds a non slippery surface that's grippy enough. It still slips effortlessly in and out of my pocket. Also it really doesn't add any bulk at all. Try a search and I'm sure you'll see some photos.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Braneless:
Sure. I'm loving this case: it's nice and grippy, fits snug, and looks pretty good. Not bad for $10 shipped.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] its_ja10:
took your advice. put plasti-dip on the back cover and its freaking amazing. no more slippery note 2.

i had ordered the 'leather' back cover but that didn't provide any grip. plasti dip is amazing.

thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] aladdin2101:
You're right .. it looks very nice.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] aladdin2101:
I'll try to get that .. I hope to find it easily. Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] gretschpr:
mind sharing how you removed the chrome? and sharing photos to see how it looks? thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Optimistic Pessimist:
Scotch Brite scouring pad might do it.

I recall people using that method to give a 'matte' appearance to the GS2 plastic bezel.
[Moto X Q&A] marioman94:
I got my Moto X recently and I hear a step down in audio quality from the original Droid Razr or any of my other devices. Music sounds heavily smeared and bass and treble sound quite off. Am I the only one to notice this? I'm not really sure what dac chip it uses, but its certainly not the same wolfson (or ericsson?) in the Razr and not even up to par with Realtek on my desktop. It even has a lot of hiss! :crying: This concerns me a lot because I use my phone to listen to music away from home.

I keep the audio effects off and own a fairly high-end pair of headphones. I've compared audio across 3 headphones and the result is the same.
[Moto X Q&A] i.Design:
You should get it replaced. My sound is clear and I get great performance out of the speaker. Almost all comments I've seen are extremely positive regarding the speaker performance. Sounds like you have a defective speaker.
[Moto X Q&A] alpha-niner64:
According to the iFixit page: it's using the Qualcomm WCD9310 codec and passes through the TI TMS320C55. I don't know what that fully means, but if my Gnex is anything to go by: TI isn't bad at their DSP work. What sucks right now is that Faux123's app FauxSound doesn't support the WCD9310 officially so it'll be up to kernel devs to facilitate that.

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola+Moto+X+Teardown/16867
[Moto X Q&A] marioman94:
Honestly it doesn't sound defective but it sounds cheap. I don't expect most people to hear it, but I am a bit of an audiophile. I was also wondering if anyone has used portable dacs with their phones or which dacs are confirmed to work with android. This sounds like a good solution to me and an opportunity to get better audio on my computer as well.
[Moto X Q&A] c19932:
I listened to my friends moto x hip hop music with Sennheiser ie8 and it sounded OK. At least the bass was deep enough. Not much help here but just wanna tell you that I feel your pain. I had the Nexus 5 and the bass was terrible imo and not low enough. Immediately sold it for a htc one instead.
[Moto X Q&A] dicarli:
My Moto X sound looks incredible, at least for me coming from an S3. A tip is to use the built-in audio config that is seen on Settings > Sound > Sound effects, check if it helps
[Moto X Q&A] mandrsn1:
I have had no audio issues with my Moto X at all. No audio "hiss" at all like what OP is experiencing.

I haven't taken the time to try my Moto X with any of my DACs.
[Moto X Q&A] jonnythan:
I think it might be somehow defective. I get zero hiss.
[Moto X Q&A] ApriliaM3:
Let's get back to the topic here guys and cease with the bickering :)
[Moto X Q&A] dicarli:
I thought you were talking about the speaker aswell. Tried with the headphone today and I wasn't very impressed either. Although I'm out of headphones and I had to try with the one that came with it, which seems very poor.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geosnipe:
For the Verizon LG G2 which recovery agent is best? I have always used CWM but on this device it made me boot loop and force a hard reset. After restoring the device to stock and spending a few hours I was able to LOKI and TWRP, followed up by GooManager and things work great now! Anyhow I was just wanting to know what others have been experiencing..?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ericdabbs:
CWM is so yesterday!! TWRP is so much better since it is touch based.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steamer86:
CWM is touch. It also fixes wipe bug and has OTG mount. I use CWM. Don't flash it worth RomManager.... I've used both ADB and flashify to push it successfully. I won't use RomManager after horrible experiences with some other LG phones.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pbedard:
Cwm