yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Arju:
they're supposed to be white in android 4.4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...nd-only-shows-connectivity-in-quick-settings/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
Also there supposed to be no network activity up and down arrows. So I guess its PSX mod that they are still here.

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Looks like KRT16S didn't change modem and boot loader.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yes, we added them back....I cant function not knowing if my data is working. 16S is very very minor change. Radio and bootloader basically only change for version changes like 4.3 to 4.4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
Hmm... since the google developer said the arrows actually have a noticeable negative impact on performance, aren't you willing to at least try it for a week or two to see if you can get used to it? :angel:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Thanks for adding them back in... And is the latest radio newer than 0.97 ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rustyjay:
Merge caused an issue, sorting it out as we speak.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
With all do respect, don't you think he and the rest of the PSX team already tested and concluded the arrows benefits outweigh the negatives?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
There is zero chance drawing tiny arrows (even 100/sec) is taxing our CPU/GPU....I have no idea why thats the story Googles giving us, but Im not buying it. And no where did they state there was a noticeable impact on anything, they simply said they were removed for performance reasons as having to redraw the icons costs CPU/GPU cycles. Im saying I dont buy it....maybe on some low end crapphone, but not this one.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 26.2man:
When I flashed this rom of came with the .84 radio. Everything seems to be functioning OK. Should I be flashing .97?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
I would love to see test results. :)

CT, not implying that you have to change anything, but data working or not is pretty visible by regular usage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
If it were I wouldnt have changed it....there are many times my data stalls and I cant tell whats going on. We are adding the network traffic indicators so the arrows can be removed or made configurable......and not sure what youre implying with "Id like to see the test results" any one can feel free and build themselves if they want things different.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rustyjay:
Chads, gotta see it ha. That ocd kicking in.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
Well... that's more or less semantics... if the guy is saying they took it out for performance reasons, for me that means that (they think) there is a noticeable impact :p If there's not a noticeable impact, there aren't any performance reasons! :p

But fair enough! If you want it in, in it stays! My comment was just meant to be a "slight" tongue-in-cheek provocation... as this ROM's purpose is meant to be performance above all else ^_^
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yea, fair enough.....Im not really in the mood for provocation right now though, sorry.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
ROMs never contain the radio unless you are doing a factory or OTA update... 0.84 works, 0.97 is newer they typically try to improve things but sometimes regressions can occur (heck they removed LTE).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Like I mentioned before, I'm pretty sure that decision was made because of kitkats goal to run on low end devices.

The minimal impact might be greater on a 1.0ghz single core device with a crappy GPU (think the N1 with adreno 200). On our 1.5 quad core, the impact is negligible. In fact I'm sure if we put it to some sort of test, we wouldn't even notice.

Running any widget would be more taxing. ANY widget, even a static one.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 26.2man:
So did you flash .97? And if so besides no LTE how was it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
It is just someone said you guys were testing those arrows before making a decision and I found it funny. I would definitely try to build when I educate myself on it. Will create virtual environment for this purpose.

Good to know arrows will be toggleable. All in all, arrows are absolutely no issue.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] azsl1326:
Is there an option / setting to always show the menu button? I don't see one, but wanted to check.

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
I heard they are working on a fully customizable navbar, so... in short... not yet :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
If something isnt listed in the changelog it isnt in the build....all changes are listed.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] matt.adid78:
Great ROM recommended, I try this yesterday but now I on odex Krt16s :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Please explain to me how... Deciding to Re-implement a former feature (the arrows) that Google development deliberately removed (due to questionable performance issues). Testing these changes & finding no significant performance issues... is Funny ?!?!

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Grrrrrrr8
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
There is no need to be snappy, m8. I assumed that no performance testing and comparison has been done while retrofitting this feature in.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Fair enough... but how exactly do you suggest they go about testing?

-A benchmark utility

-A download/upload speed test

With the arrows included & removed... I really doubt you will see a change in the numbers, but maybe I'm wrong.

Did you see a few pages back someone posted a quadrant score of nearly 11K (It was overclocked to 1.7#) but heck with a phone as capable as the N4... the indicator arrows should not really affect performance.

Perhaps the Google developers have been spending some time recently Party'n with Mayor Rob Ford?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Guys please just let this go or take it off line....there are more important debates then signal arrows. Theyre in for a reason and will remain in for now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] P00t:
Ct makes the rom and he decides what he wants to do with his rom. Just sayin.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] playabigfoot:
So managed to read to the end of the topic and want to thank ctfrommn & Co for the awesome ROM. Been on the psx train since v6 and love the speed and stability. Just wondering is it hard to make a vanilla build without any customization but only the speed improvements? I'm a minimalistic guy and want to use xposed and gravitybox for the center clock because the built in seems a little bit to the right. Hope the dev doesn't make it private because of the ppl who don't read and search and thanks again for the awesome ROM
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
When Xposed comes along for 4.4, you can still use PSX with the mods (like I usually do). Just leave the clock setting at default and set it with Xposed/GravityBox.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Yusei:
Those arrows let us know if we are getting internet, it's a good thing not bad :s
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
I wasn't suggesting any testing. On the contrary, I said that(most likely) no performance testing has been done while implementing this little feature and rightfully so.

I am really thinking right now should I blame my ESL or lack of comprehension by others for this disconnect. No one is requesting or demanding removal of those arrows in this thread. It was assumed that arrows are Roms feature and confirmed by op. That's it. I will stop mentioning them from now on, please pm if you wanna take this conversation further
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] playabigfoot:
I taught that xposed only works with stock and not modded stuff because the qs tiles didn't work with in 4.3
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Could we do it....sure....will we, doubtful. As far as the other...XDA is becoming more and more intolerable, the users not the site. Seems every thread, even those that strive for peace, helpfulness, and a layed back atmosphere are descending into a black hole of gimme gimme mentality and the absolute inability to do or learn anything for themselves. This isnt some random social media site, this is intended to contain educated users who are interested in developing or development. I refuse to sit and read page after page of utter nonsense. I gain absolutely nothing from posting this here, I dont make this Rom so 10,000 people can use it and I have some famous Rom. This is simply our vision for Android and we make it the way we like it. Nothing frustrated me more than always looking for a Rom that had all the features I wanted and none of the crap I didnt, so I learned how to make my own. This is how and why were here, to share our vision, but not at the cost of a constant barrage of useless lazy posts.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
I will attempt to build absolutely minimalistic ROM with no customizations whatsoever. I need a lot to learn though and finish my multiple work projects. Will learn from the best by sticking to psx.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] midreestaj:
.97 radio in my usage is good and pretty much like .84 except one thing though, but that might also be a kit kat related room for improvement. And that is Android Battery Usage shows Voice Call sucking battery more than screen and anything else. Today my 1 h 20 min talk time took more battery than my 2 hours SOT
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] B@je:
Dude!!! Even on xda? You're making us Torontonians feel even more ****ty
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] motoman992:
Awesome rom, i couldnt find any lags except in lockscreen when u pull down the status bar but i heard that it is like that in every 4.4 rom. Cant wait for next release :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
Certain things do and don't work. You just have to try it out to find out what does. On 4.3, I used Xposed for Unicon (icon theming) and the nav/status bar transparencies in GravityBox. They worked just fine.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Sorry, I was just trying to lighten the mood... the conversation seemed to be heading in the wrong direction.

That man is a real peice of work though, scary.

All the Best.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bossmaine:
My 3rd KitKat ROM and so far the best...Big thanks for this...

Any chance of getting:

1. immersion mode in power menu

2. ring targets

3. menu button(both sides) in nav bar,

4. any widget on lockscreen...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] B@je:
No worries man I'm not mad, I'm just surprised that that even on my go to tech site I have to hear about the fat **** and yes you're right he lost all support that he had before
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smoka206:
Well said, if you stopped building for the public I would understand. Half the fun is learning something new.

I can't stand the entitled people out there who are so stupid they come here or to anyone who will listen. I see the same people in Google+. I have chosen to ignore and block these people. They can search Google or XDA for an answer. I don't ask many questions because they have been answered already.

Your work is very much appreciated, I like your ROM because it works and works well. Its definitely my #1 choice. I am big fan of Purity and Raskat as well.

Much praise for your hard work and patience.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] scott62185:
There's a feature request page. I think they want you to put your requests in there.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Good morning/afternoon/evening folks, hope your well. :)

Well said ct.:good:

Your like me, in that i create things for personal use and share with the possibility of adding user requested features through kindness. But that's not enough around here anymore. It seems to me as android evolves, the Iphone sheeple migrate across and bring the Apple attitude with them. :(

Maybe that was because qs toggles were in 4.3, i never tried. Did you try gravitybox prior to the toggles being included?

The native version could have taken a higher priority over gravitybox qs toggles.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
At least the guy is pretty harmless unlike our mayor, who just got 28 years in prison. Guess where I am from :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] soumoks:
Why do you guys want every feature in every rom possible? there exist no dearth of roms for the nexus and development would simply cease if every rom had every feature, instead of demanding for a couple of features, learn how to implement them on your own, the code is open source. If you can't do that find a Rom with All the features you want, If you can't do that as well, use psx without any demands.. You're not paying these devs so what enables you to demand from them? In my view psx has the right mixture of features and speed, read the op, speed takes priority and not every feature found on xda. The op has made it very clear that some features such as halo or pie will never make it into the rom, there must be a reason behind it. Think over the features you demand and if you demand one use the spreadsheet linked in the op and don't clutter the entire thread,

I am sorry if anyone was insulted in my statements but I've never seen ct this upset.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bossmaine:
:eek: yeah I completely missed that..thanks
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] B@je:
Just cross the river
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vog31:
Guys thanks for this great rom! Any link for moto Optimization?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Search last few pages you'll surely get it
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PedroBustamonte:
I'm actually trying to learn to build Android on my own but I have problems setting up a Linux system...

I'm just not able to install the sun-java6-jdk. Is it mandatory to install exactly this package? Just asking... ;)

sent from my toaster
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
This one is flashable now. Fixed the script manually. I take no credit or responsibility if you break something.. But I have used it a few times with no problems.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xkh7nne0vapy5o6/motoX_4.4_qcoptimized.zip
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
FYI...Im only using the Dalvik portion....our Bionic is faster than the Moto X one. It gives like 20+% better scores. I hit like 9300 and 22k on stock kernel with it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Well that would make sense. I'll have to make a new one. Though it will all be moot once the new build rolls out..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yea...if you only keep

system/bin/dexopt

system/lib/libdvm.so

system/lib/libqc-opt.so

Thats the Dalvik portion
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Noted, thanks! 7zip is my goto for zip editing when I've got a personal pc handy. But you know any way to edit a zip and keep the signature intact on a device? Any special file explorers that do it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
I wouldnt even mess with it on the device....I open the Rom and the patch in 7zip and move the files manually and reflash.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Zarchiver and zipsigner, both from the play store.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2&hl

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchiver&hl
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Lol, yeah, best practices and all that, I'm just impatient ;).
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] senthilrameshjv:
Neither did i.. He is the coolest dev I've seen and answers to you and helps you out all the time.. I usually spend my time only in psx thread.. But after this 4.4 thread opened i don't read it at all.. Even now, i skipped the first hundred pages.. Hope it doesn't continue further like this..

CT, waiting for your PSK magic.. For some reason i find KK battery draining.. After 4.3,i could see immediate improvement in battery than 4.2 but now my kk is worse than 4.2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install oracle-java6-installer

Try that (Ubuntu 64 bit). That should give you JDK 6.

Make sure you get JDK 6 and not 7
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Odd, I get great battery on stock kernel...same as 4.3 4-4.5 SOT with 18-24 hours uptime.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] soumoks:
About the battery part, I found that Google search was causing huge wakelocks, disabled Google now as it's not of much use in India anyway, the wakelocks have vanished and am getting better battery life than 4.3 :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DemosZevasa:
SuperSU Updated

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Perfect, Thank you
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctakah27:
So, do I need to re-download and re-install gapps regularly, or is it ok to install them once and just keep updating them through the playstore?

Also, can somebody please give me a link to the latest AK kernel for AOSP... thx
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KarloHD:
V1 Download link please :sly:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
No probs mate, your welcome.

Hey ct, i thought you were a recognized dev??!!:confused::eek:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
Anytime you flash the ROM, you need to flash the GAPPS package as well (and SuperSU). If you do a dirty flash (without wiping), your market-installed apps will still be intact.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Click on kitkat folder in download folder

Magic!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
It could be just placebo effect, but I see battery time is better with ART vs dalvik. Performance feels same so far. Again, this observation is not scientifically proven and could be bs. I will keep switching back and forth between optimized dalvik, when it drops for psx and art and find some better ways to compare them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mumaster20:
I just tried to use the MotoX patch and it wont boot :(

Only stays at the psX screen and wont boot.

I grabbed the v1 zip from the rom, and manually replaced these files om my pc in the rom .zip with the files from the MotoX .zip:

system/bin/dexopt

system/lib/libdvm.so

system/lib/libqc-opt.so

[MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] am i doing something wrong? Because it just flashed just flawless.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] PedroBustamonte:
Thanks.

I'm already using that repository but I'm not sure which command I used. (I think it was install sun-java6-jdk)

I'll try later when I'm at my computer again.

sent from my toaster
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KarloHD:
Does not work when I click on it.

:what:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Your not meant to tell them. That way when they finally discover it they feel a sense of achievement.:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Thats one of the benefits of Art....its real.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Click on the word kitkat... Rofl:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctakah27:
What's this talk about dalvik patches and optimization?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] n2d551:
Man this thread flies. Great job once again guys. This thread needs it's own google search engine!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] samuelrf:
24:38h of battery with 5 and a half of screen...with stock and ART, never had a better battery life, so imagine when Google polish it and the Chad add his magic, but for now we can only dream...?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctakah27:
It has a search engine... Top right, where it says 'search this thread'
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] KarloHD:
I am ashamed, well no one sees me.:sly::eek::banghead:

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
:laugh:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] playabigfoot:
I'm really sorry if I sounded rude or demanding, it wasn't my attention. It was just a taught :) still love your ROM and keep up the good work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zedaale:
Are you using hangouts for SMS? If we use it for texting, messages will be saved in the account we choose, right? We wouldn't have to backup messages?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
That depends on what you allow Google to backup. Also if you swipe a conversation it will be archived.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
I haven't seen this ability in hangouts, which frustrates me. I can only recover SMS from the messaging app, not from hangouts. Maybe I'm missing something...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
I keep archiving by accident. I swipe the screen to go back and it ends up archived.:mad:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
Well if that's the case, it sure makes an easy backdoor to saving SMS.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zedaale:
That was what I was wondering... ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
I never save my sms so its a redundant and slightly annoying feature for me. While im thinking about it im going to rummage through the apk and see about disabling it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] patstock11:
Anybody having problems with betterbatterystats?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Togno85:
Op? In the home page no go

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Bonvaz:
Immersive mode is there yet?

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
The download link is under downloads in the OP (Original Post)....It say Rom, click the link and it will open the page. This may or may not work if youre using the XDA app....open in the browser or on a PC.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zetok:
Differences between gapps core vs standard?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
yes but not many apps use it, it does work in any app it used to block the taskbar
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] endrekok:
The new battery indicator so nice around the lock circle! :) I just love it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
I only flash on weekends.:)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
I've been running this since 4.4 test #1 and haven't had any WiFi issues.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] spider623:
it's sunday in the moon xD
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] baza14:
I hate the way status bar flashes when I open an app with a white background. I know it's on all KK ROMs I've tried but is it fixable anyhow?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
Only happens to me when Google apps open. (G+, Hangouts, Calendar, etc) I bet it's a "feature".
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zetok:
no1?

Also, what is the google dialer addon?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
I cannot be bothered to flash and restore my apps and prefs, too much of a ball ache.

Yes, revert back to a black status bar. I intend to make an Xposed module to do it unless the boys add to the features.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
I doubt core one has gel... Detailed info available in banks thread under games n app..

CT mentioned about Google dialer 2 pages back
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rempty:
Antutu benchmark results for all the benchmarkholics
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sujith1994:
so about the launcher does it lags?