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[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I think the APN for text messaging is T-mobile but I'm not really sure - I might have been bouncing messages off AT&T. Will check next time in stock. In any event, I was able to apply the heartbleed OTA when it came out, and I'm now getting the normal up to date/no update needed message. Don't know if the larger update would be delivered differently but think that even after AT&T signs off, it gets delivered through Motorola's mechanism [EDIT - and not necessarily through AT&T's data networks although how does that work? - unless there is that much of an infrastructure overlap and between AT&T and T-mo or the update can go from it's source through any data connection]. That said, for good measure next time I'll check via device manager.

[EDIT2]

Back in stock, indeed using T-mo's fast APN (have also used old one in the past). Motorola device manager also says nothing doing. I think these are the same prompts I got during the JB4.1.1 update when I was still on AT&T. Are these the same messages you've seen when you've checked?

Motorola Device Manager

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Native stock Android update check

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One other thing. I'm checking for updates from a a restored backup of rooted stock jb. This should not affect the detection of updates but I would have to re flash unrooted stock (and stock recovery?) before applying the update.... which I'll do once I know there is a way to re-root stock KK.
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
AT&T is the reason?

Reading on the Motorola forums that KitKat was released for our devices to AT&T and that they are the ones holding this up.

Likely they are not releasing the ROM so we buy new phones or extend our contract with them on a new phone...

I use ST for my provider on this former AT&T phone, hopefully someone with an AT&T account will pester them enough to get some answers, or some tech ready to make a switch to leak it out to us.. :p

They weren't the only GSM provider that used this phone were they, if not, was this given to other providers as well?

Thanks for looking for the update, it is appreciated...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I was on AT&T but purchased a provider unlock code and switched to T-mobile who have the same network type and may even share infrastructure with AT&T.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
finally, there is no update KK?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Does any of us actually have Motorola accredidations on their resume and stated that we will not get KK or are you starting up a rumor that goes against Moto's upgrade page?

Do not state or ask a question that implies that the KK update has been cancelled unless you have some kind of proof. Otherwise this is fear monguling (or however you spell that) and just creating false rumors.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
no update yet - see my post 387. I will check weekly and post here. I have native stock 98.5.38 available to do the test both with Motorola Device Manager, and OTA via settings/about phone/update .
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
You got the first half right. Mongering. :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Good point about rumor spreading although I think Any PlayStore was just questioning sobitthen's post, and through a language barrier at that.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
That was understood and taken care of with my answer, but perhaps we should spend a couple of pages discussing it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Was addressing palmbeach and just trying to get any playstore off hook for merely asking a question about whether another post was declaring no update.:)

BTW, as you are on AT&T, do you get the same update prompts that I get through T-mo (posted a page or two back)?
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
apparently we will spend a few pages. I do not have the exact phrasing and/or spacing in front of me and will not for another week when I check again. I do not have idetic memory and if I did I do not have a port for downloading said image. Is all this super high precision and attempt at finding a hole between quarks truly necessary? or just an obfuscation.

I am done with all this.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Would you be willing to receive a PM?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Lmao, this is becoming one of the longest debates i've seen. Gotta love the content of that post
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Well, I wouldn't call a reasonable request to know if the update messages are the same under AT&T and T-mobile an obfuscation but that was a well written flame, and I do need be better at staying on topic, so....

still curious to know if the update messages under AT&T are the same as those under T-mobile:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57185457&postcount=396
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Sorry. My english is bad. Maybe I was wrong spelling

I really want to know Atrix HD will finally get KK?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Motorola's website still has the Atrix HD listed to get KitKat and we have not heard any news so we are all just waiting and hoping.... and checking for the update as often as we each can. If the update is released or if it is canceled there will be a lot of talk about it in this XDA thread so stay tuned here. If there is a change in status it wont be kept a secret :)

Also you can check the general status of the update here:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/action/auth

Select AT&T then Atrix HD and you can see the update has not been canceled.

You can also check to see if Motorola has released updated firmware here:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_detail/a_id/89776/p/30,6720,8558

Thanks to other XDA members for providing these links and posting them at various points in this thread.

[EDIT] Just clarifying that the firmware is not available for download through Motorola's website but that is where you can view the update history and see the file names.
[Motorola Atrix HD] define1:
is there anyone know where to get 98.5.38.MB886.ATT.en.US sbf file ? i want reflash my atrix hd back to stock but i think the website sbf.droid-developers goes down. anyone has alternative/mirror link much appreciate

sorry for my english :p :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] pelia0:
2118

motofirmware.com/files/category/31-qinara/
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
No (KK) update is out/available. 12/5/2014

checked with ATT MB886 Atrix HD using

Motorola Device Manager on Win7pro PC (with USB connection), and

on phone in stock 98.5.38 : Settings / About Phone / System Updates (over my own wifi)

I will probably check once a week.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks a bunch for the pics. Nice to know I can update through T-Mo. I'll try to interleave my check-ins with yours.

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Noticing that many of the download links for our aging AHD firmware were disappearing I went on a big hunt yesterday and found only this http://mobilesupportall.blogspot.com/2014/07/motorola-atrix-hd-mb886-latest-flash.html, but the one you found has been updated more recenltly and may be better maintained. Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
of the 2 methods, Moto Dev Mgr might be the more reliable for TMO

yes, I found quinara. Don't know if either is maintained or how they would get the info.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Good points both. Will check with MDM as well as native to phone. As to firmware DL sites, "more recently posted" would have been a better description than "maintained". Thanks! When I saw some of the old links disappearing I started archiving as many as I can. I bet a lot of us have similar archives. Also, it would not surprise me someone here got the file and shared it before appears on one of those sites. :)

[Edit] No update today by native updater or MDM. Funny thing about using ART in CM is that it takes so long convert and restore from TBU that the extra step of restoring stock for a quick update peek takes relatively little extra time.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Guys lets just all do a boycott against att. I will ever get att service as long i live
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
a) why? what's up???

b) only ATT and TMO do the subway tunnels here. ATT has better service for me.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Provider unlocked and gone to T-mobile here, although outside population center AT&T has wider coverage. Are you by any chance missing text and voice mail with good signal or just get bad signal?
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/EiWDVJ2LE17

:( Do not perform as promised. "Motorolo" not play nice

I will not buy any equipment from Motorola

deception -> Loss of prestige for users
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Why believe someone who admits "I do not have the slightest idea" before believing the official word on Motorola's website? Ignore that stuff. The official status is still that we will get the update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Oh ok, so you want to think that this is like the ICS fiasco that Moto had with the A4G and stir up a slamming campaign against them WHEN SEVERAL USERS INCLUDING MYSELF HAVE INVESTIGATED THIS TOPIC AND FOUND IT TO BE A CARRIER ISSUE, NOT A MOTO ISSUE. WAIT FOR YOUR CARRIER TO RELEASE THE UPDATE OTHERWISE 1. GO TO CUSTOM ROMS. OR 2. GO SPEND MONEY ON A NEWER DEVICE THAT WILL HAVE BASICALLY THE SAME THING YOU HAVE NOW, PLUS OR MINUS A FEATURE HERE AND THERE.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
That would be nice to get a official KK but honestly, I don't really care for official KK if someone manage to get 5.0 running on JB kernel. :p

When I had Atrix 4G I was hoping for Android 4.0 soo bad but that never happened. (I know that's because of Tergra 2 and blablabla) but still.. I'm not going to hope to get something from Motorola (Or in this case - At&t) for an older device ever again. lol
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
LP will probably happen for us in cm12 format, just be patient, i don't even think official nightlies have been released yet.

4.0 did happen for A4G (leaked version). We're now on KK there.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Guys Motorola have nothing to do with our update. Blame AT&T for it as Motorola already gave them the freaking update already a month ago.

So b!tch slap Att for it and Not Moto.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
Exactly. How are they going to sell more phones when people are happy with their current phone? We've all boarded the ruse cruise.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Recovery restored back to stock. No update yet.
[Motorola Atrix HD] artem250:
Watch this topic for a long time . Ukraine and Russia are also waiting for an update on the КК. If guilty ATT then where leakage from Motorola?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Leaks are not always guaranteed
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Initial contact with ATT via email seems to agree with what is being said recently. This is an ATT issue, not a Moto issue.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Yeah i assume they figuring out how to bloat the update with their crap if...... we get the update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
Honestly, I've never bought this argument. AT&T is not in the business of selling phones. They are in the business of charging high contract costs, for as long as possible. The way they do that is getting us to pay monthly fees to subsidize the cost of the phone, even WELL AFTER THE PHONE HAS BEEN PAID OFF. T-Mobile is the notable exception to this rule, but AT&T & Verizon will happily continue taking the same monthly cost from you forever. Your monthly cost doesn't go down when the phone has been paid off.

So therefore, I'd say AT&T would be happy keeping me as a customer forever on my old phone. At this point, it's almost all profit.

(sorry for off-topic post, but that's all we have at this point)
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Actually, I'm rather inclined to agree with this. Phones don't actually cost that much to manufacture. So companies make huge profit letting you have the phone for little or no cost to you, IF they can lock you into an expensive contract for 2 years. <-- That's where they make their bucks. The "free" phone is just the bait!

Also sorry for ot... ;)
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
This is more what I was going for. They sell new phones attached to their nasty longterm contracts. The new phones at "rock bottom" prices are what draw people in. Older phones like ours don't sell new contracts.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
BREAKING NEWS

NEW UPDATE RECIEVED FROM ATT REGARDING THIS UPDATE. PLEASE READ.

This msg was just sent to me from ATT customer care.

"Sorry for the delay, I was reaching out to some people I know in the testing department. They finally replied to me and said that they are still testing the kitkat and it might not come out not because of the bugs but because they are not sure if lollipop will get pushed out or not once they know if it will get lollipop they will either green light the kitkat or they will skip it and go with lollipop. Sorry I do not have any dates because the details change weekly."

Update - Motorola has been informed of ATT's latest position on the update. No official comment on this matter at this time.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
Ha! So there's a (probably slim) chance this beast is going to get Lollipop???
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Well they should read this thread because if I don't see an update for the atrix hd i will never ever including my family and few friends will change providers as Tmobile. So same for many many people will feel like after knowing moto already did they part.

So by the end of the day i will always be loyal to moto and att depending on this decision.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Can that email address you've received can be replied to?

Maybe we could all replied to it...

I'd tell them to at least give us kk boot and devtree images in whatever state they got them from moto and we'd call it a day... for now at least...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'd be in.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Thanks for the info, but I don't get it... If they already have KK, why not push it and then push Lollipop later?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
The representative that I was emailing was reminded of the ICS-Atrix 4G fallout and was told by me in an unofficial capacity (we never made me or anyone else our official spokesperson :p ) that not providing an update at all would cause quite a bit of damge for Motorola, which in turn would cause damage for ATT. The rep is actually monitoring this situation himself for personal reasons, his son has this device. So yes, ATT customer service can piss us off from time to time, but they can also be like us, patiently waiting for an update everyone is eager to see.

But essentially, at the end of the day, it comes down to this:

1. Motorola and ATT both approve of proposed/tested Kitkat build.

2. Motorola says no Lollipop per their initial public statement on devices to be updated to Lollipop.

3. ATT to release KitKat if Motorola gives a final no to Lollipop.

4. If Motorola says yes to Lollipop, then we can expect that treat instead of KitKat.

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The email can definitely be replied to. You would think i would have gone to ATT's website to get things moving. I went to their fb page and got the customer care email from there. After sending an email from one email address, getting no answers or acknoledgement, i voiced concern on their wall. At that point they gave me a ref # to put in my subject line and they said shoot them an email and they will see what they can do.

Note - I did the initial email with no ref # from one email address, and the email with ref # from another. I did have reps responding to both email addresses, both confirming through the way they worded their msg or by actual confirmation, that this update is real, not just a "oh yeah, its something we're working on" thing. Email with ref # got me the info i provided yesterday.

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That's what i'm thinking too. Only thing i can come ul with is its probably a cost effective thing. Like they do have to put in all those hrs to test, will the device still be hot in a few months, other business things idk about, etc. But i can ask the rep i was emailing.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
We have to wait how long? Maybe Motorolo renege? :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Until Motorola tells ATT that they will not release LP, as stated above
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
I do not need LP, I just hope KKBL.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Motorola says no LP, then we will get KK. Motorola says yes LP, then no KK and straight to LP. I have already stated this last wk when i reported the update.

KK is already possible via CM11. Ok, yes, we do not have the KKBL, but that does not hinder the device. Look at the Motorola Defy. It has the Gingerbread bootloader (GBBL) (2.3) and its running stable KK via CM11 with a CM12 in development (not yet released).

You say you don't need LP, but there is no further development on previous releases. CM11/KK is about to end development. LP is the future.

At the end of this device's life, you will either have a KKBL or a LPBL, just relax and be patient. Or email Motorola and get them to make an official decision and release that decision to ATT. There's only so much I can do from a military leadership course at the moment.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Thank you .. have provided information.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
Try to wait. :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] artem250:
Where is our gift for the new year ?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I'd like to know what gift and who promised what for the new yr. B/c i never reported on a christmas or new years update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
You would be the only source of such information because...? :) Yes, yes, I know you have provided helpful information and that is appreciated however; as someone else reminded me, and rightfully so, this thread should be for meaningful news about updates rather than all this policing of the minutia of people's statements. There just does not need to be a counter-statement to every wish that the update might happen soon or question about it's course, as that only doubles the amount of what is essentially spam.
[Motorola Atrix HD] artem250:
This was an appeal to a higher power ... to the gods Motorola.

Something about the custom Roms 5.0? I agree to all ))) Sorry for my english
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZangMo:
here is Andriod Lollipop http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3477700786 unofficial CM12

thank for mijuu
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
[MENTION=4710612]ZangMo[/MENTION]

Interesting. Thanks for posting. How is it? Is it stable?

Currently I'm downloading it, as soon as I will get it I'll make a mirror since speed is about 20kb/s.

Edit: Looks like it will take at least a few hours
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
Finally!! I got file out of that web site. :p

I haven't tested it yet but here are mirrors:

|MIRROR 1[US]|MIRROR 2[RU]|

MD5: 8DF35F86803862DF446C40603A40A086

Oops, sorry for the double post
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, I'll cancel my mirror upload. Just installed it looks nice. Some of the defaults are different and the settings are in different places. Spends a lot of time on boot logo, which may bee an ART thing, so don't be alarmed as long ass the animation is spinning.
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
I Have seen this ROM on ''906268147.lofter.com'', isn't a themed kk? :confused:

i say this, bcuz i have seen a ''android L for msm8960_jbbl'' on that site, but only is a PAC ROM RC3, with L theme, haha

btw, im downloading it, ill give it a try~ Thanks for share this link to us :good:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I was also wondering if it was merely themed KK but it does report its self as Android version 5.0.1 and shows the Lollipop Easter egg. On the other hand, the updater is tracking CM11 nightlies so... very nice theming job and back I go to CM11 12/24 knowing it was too good to be true but still feeling a bit faked out.

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Thank you. Also, this may be worth a thread of it's own. There will be a good bit of conversation about it which might take over this thread which is still for the official KK update that will bring us the KKBL.
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
u already tried it? if yes, give us an ss!~ :victory:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
This seems to be just and older CM 11 nightly dressed up as Lollipop and falsely reporting it's self as Lollipop in the system information. If that is not the case why is it tracking CM11 nightlies? On the flip side. I did not see a run-time toggle in Developer options which would be an indication of Lollipop. In any event, although this is fun to play with it is no way towards the the intended direction of this thread and should have it's own - where it is clearly stated what it is. I can test it again in a few days but have already gone back to my daily.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
Quick warning:

Do not turn screen brightness all the way down. Screen is black. lol I guess I have to reflash because of this. lol
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
well, if is a dressed up kk, it's a simply a superb job, well, themes aren't fully ''L'' But, i have readed that post, and says ''the bug is the updates are CM11'', haha

camera works, sound works, wifi works, but, i can't see the mobile network options, that proccess crashes.

i can't install the 4.4.4 gapps, ill try with the L Gapps.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
How about the transitions, do they look like the new material language.

Double quick settings?

Battery Estimates?

Screen Pinning?

The little things help.

Overall this Rom looks strange but cool.

Not flashing yet but staying tuned.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mm166:
I really think this might be a genuine lollipop. I agree, everything looks too good and I just tried lollipop gapps and they are working! I think this alone might be proof that this is genuine but I may be wrong.
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
Android L isn't fully ART Now?

that's why we can't see the run-time toggle~ hehe

or tell me if i was so outdated about android~
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'll buy that if the updater is it's own glitch. I tested gappless but good point there. Again: but for how nice a thing this is to play with, it will create enough dialog to overwhelm this thread and probably should be moved to it's own. I'd be glad to create one but don't want to appear to be stealing other's credit.

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Yes. That was exactly my point. "I did not see a run-time toggle in Developer options which would be an indication of Lollipop"
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
yup, this ROM has the transitions, has the easter egg, has the quick settings...
[Motorola Atrix HD] ZeroAlee:
here are some SS, From my loved Atrix HD~ :victory:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
So we don't hijack this thread any further please take the exiting Lollipop stuff here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2984530

Thanks :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
Deleted

Reason: Moved
[Motorola Atrix HD] artem250:
Anything about 4,4?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
CM11 nightlies until more info from ATT is recieved.
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
The Motorola Upgrade site (https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949#gs=) still says we are getting KK but when is anyone's guess.. especially now that they are busy with pushing out Lollipop..
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
If you refer (they) to moto then you wrong. Motorola been done with our updates for good months already and passed it to AT&T. So here the ones to ***** at it is freaking att. One more reason they proved wrong to customers and same reason i cancel their service and moved to T-Mobile.