yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
and, if I remember properly, somewhere (on G+ or tweetr ...i could dig it up..) David S. mentioned Moto being delayed but 4-5 wks due to "new, last minute, req's. So technically, it's end of Q3 + 4-5 wks....

...just saying.[emoji13]

This thread starts to remind me so much of an old story where a company -let's call it M- promised to unlock the bl of a certain phone called Defy...

CM7 (at froyo time), CM9 4wks after sources, CM 10.x (~2,5wk after sources), CM11, ...

still going strong [thanks btw to Quarx, Epsilon3, and maniac103 anong others]... but still, no news from M.

[emoji271]

sorry for off-topic digregation.[emoji196]

Go M go!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
With all the problems I'm seeing on msm8960 KK recovery, and on KK CM11, I am very content to wait!!! :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
I'm in the same boat -as you know- but I do sympathize with our friends here on kkbl and can't get out of my head that if we've had gotten that update let's say just a very few months after official KK release, most of those bugs you refer to would have never happened or at least, would be far behind us atm...

:]
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Other than generally staying up to date and perhaps future compatibility is there even any functional advantage to kkbl?

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Yep, JBBL doing just f - i - n - e here.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
advantage: only if they give us "L" which I think is next after KK. I figure there's an ice cube's chance in hades of that happening. :D

The AHD is such a fine fast phone, and CM11Njbbl makes it super. Even going to stock would mean dropping from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 I think.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks, and yes from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 unless something changes. Beginning to worry that the ice cube will win this one.

The AHD languished in the shadow of the commercially more popular Samsung Galaxy S3. When I got my AHD, AT&T was practically giving them away with contracts (which I got out of with a free AHD after exposing some AT&T LTE shenanigans;)) while the S3 was still going for $99 with contract. Going by gut feel here but I think the Verizon moto devices were also more popular than AHD since Verizon did not wait as long as AT&T to offer decent Motos and presented more options.

... point being manufacturer more likely to turn away from a device that is not as widely circulated as others.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
At the risk of another conversation here where I get yelled at... It's been many years since I've had a contract. And after I had the SGS 4G I did not want another Sammy, no matter how popular they were. SGS 4G had terrible reception. Asked for att phone with great reception. Was told AHD. Got one and haven't looked back. Got 2 now. I don't really care if in fact it doesn't get upgraded, though I think it will, but probably well into q4. As it is now, this is a super phone/rom. My only "druther" would be an all band phone like Nexus or something that I could pack anywhere. But still way too expensive used. Okay... back to our regularly scheduled waiting! :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
By all band, I assume you mean being able to use all the bands compatible with our device. It is possible http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/thread-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269

I've got most of the ATT compatible bands set, and will attempt to go for the LTE bands as soon as I get my laptop back from a friend of mine.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
So you're saying my AHD really has radios for things like TMO 4G and LTE, and Verizon, and the European 4G bands????
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
Curious too
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
CDMA bands or whatever it is that Verizon uses will not work. The GSM bands i have unlocked, but seeing as i am here in the US and not abroad, i can't confirm or deny if the European bands actually work. Its a simple process to test if anyone wants to test it out. If anyone wants to try this, hit me up for the steps that are Moto specific in that process.

Sent from my MB886 CM10.2/4.3.1
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
You say you have unlocked att bands, but those already work, including LTE. Have you gotten LTE on TMO. I am very confused by this. Gotta say this sounds a lot like the "free TV" ads on TV that are just selling you a cheap OTA antenna where a simple wire would work much better... Just sayin...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I said GSM, not ATT. I run off of ATT, so i can only confirm that after unlocking bands that were not already unlocked within the GSM spectrum and using that guide to unlock them, device still functioning. ATT uses bands 4 and 17 for LTE. 17 is not unlocked prior to doing this. Having 4 and 17 unlocked is the thing i was referring to planning on doing as soon as i get my laptop back.

Sent from my MB886 CM10.2/4.3.1
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
sorry. What app are you using to see what bands are in use? What do you gain by unlocking 17? Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix HD] reix2x:
Why is the "Off topic conversation" attacking again? you give me hope when i see new posts in the thread, then i come to read you talking about another things, please lets remember why is this thread for.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Good idea. Let's get back on topic (says I who is just as likely to stray off topic as anyone else ;)).

Does anyone have any news about when the update will happen (beyond the mention by AL that there may be a several weeks delay)? Any feedback on the soak tests for other phones in the same family?

We are likely to hear news of this through XDA before other sources but for those watching the clock here is a Motorola forum about the update (no news now, just more waiting):

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e401035d88?page=1.

Also, here is a where you can find the motorola official status (US only), which at present for the AT&T AHD is still: "This device will be upgraded to KitKat (Android 4.4)"

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949/action/auth
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
I can't PM you (it won't let me). Check the thread i posted a link to a page ago to see what app. Idk what gains yet b/c i still don't have my laptop back.

Sent from my MB886 CM10.2/4.3.1
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks again for the info about the extra 5 weeks . It's the only news I've been able to find anywhere (except q3 q3 q3 q3 ad nauseum) and I hope you don't mind if I share it on this Moto forum where some folks are waiting for the official update: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/e401035d88?page=4.

https://forums.motorola.com/comment/811619
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Thanks - I did turn PMing back on... But I probably won't do anything with the info as it sounds way too complex for my tiny brain... You are way ahead of me!!! Sorry for OT.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
2 years ago, A4G users waited patiently for the end of the 3rd quarter. In the end, Motorola makes a stunning move, reversing their decision to update 2 of their flagship devices. It was more backlash on the A4G side of things since it had the unlocked bootloader. Now, we face the same situation, but minus any news of a reversal. Hopefully Moto keeps this up and actually comes through with an officially released update, rather than quietly reversing their decision, causing a massive backlash and leaking a 90% completed build.
[Motorola Atrix HD] joel_sinbad:
Yeah... I remember... "that leak"...

The Atrix 4G and his brother the Photon 4G were the most infamous phones from Moto, I blame the Tegra 2 chip that came with them, even the One X and One+, the Tegra 3 ones, had problems with having no more updates due to the Tegra 3 chip... I'm glad that Motorola now uses Snapdragons on their flagships and no experimenting with others....
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
ah the days of "that leak", "that ROM", "those libs". Those were interesting days. At least before we closed out the yr by kicking down the door and JTAGing it and starting to reverse engineer the kernel for our own usage
[Motorola Atrix HD] progrockguy:
With the Nexus and Lollilop announcement, I have to call it: there will be no KK for the AHD this year, if ever. Right now their resources are fully focused on updating the Gs, Xs and latest DROIDs to 5.0. That's a massive undertaking and, who are we kidding, we're last on their priority list, if we're even there at all.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
Don't forget the Moto Nexus. Just bad timing and reallocation of resources towards new projects kinda did that for us. Since I don't and will never use Verizon, and with Motorola moving towards the physically closed designs on everything but the Verizon Droid devices, the Atrix HD looks like it'll be my last Moto phone for a while. Just last night I had to take my HD apart to reset it as it hard froze on me. I understand why they're doing it, but it's not for me, and that's cool. Until I absolutely need a new phone, I'm going to rock this HD until it just can't chug anymore.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
holding all 3 buttons for 8 seconds didn't do it?
[Motorola Atrix HD] Hassan Aftab:
I suggest to close this thread, we were pranked by motorola. going custom rom tonight.

dissapointed and satisfied to see that big firms do lie.
[Motorola Atrix HD] reix2x:
I'm Starting to feel like you, but well i came from an Atrix 4G, so i'm used to be pranked by motorola.. i don't know why i still buy these phones...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
First off, we don't need Moto for KK and we all know it. I also come from the A4G, so I'm well aware of that history. Until Moto officially pulls the plug on any KK updates, it's too early to start down this road of rebellion and bashing and all this other stuff you guys are starting up with these two posts. The only thing so far you will gain from that update is what? A KKBL. That's it. You can run Moto's KK launcher on our KK. We might be able to ask RHD devs to help port the Moto KKBL to our JBBL, but there are things in the BL that we would need to get it up and running.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Any PlayStore:
MB886 hope kitkat updates. :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
This sounds like a bunch of fussy 6 month olds who think if they insult motorola enough they will get what they want - LOL - 'course these are the folks who will immediately ***** loudly that it doesn't work, or it bricked their phones... again LOL!!!!!!!

Like palmbeach, I came from an A4G. Been running KK 4.4.4 for many many many months. Love my 2 AHDs! Moto is solid with great reception.

Go whine somewhere else!
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
MB886 is Atrix HD, we all know this. And we also know that we are most likely getting 4.4.2 from Moto while CM and the rest of the dev community is on 4.4.4.

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I agree with [MENTION=2945516]KrisM22[/MENTION] Plus, since we already have KK even if its not from Moto, its LP we need to start being concerned with. I mean first off, look at the A4G. It got left officially behind at 2.3.6. Its seen ICS, all 3 JBs, and now KK with just the kernel support they got back in the day. Officially, we're on JB #1 (some on 4.1.1, some on 4.1.2). We've seen JB 2 and 3, and KK without Moto. We're fine ppl, we don't need to be all up in a rage, we haven't officially been dropped. What are we going to do next, be in an uproar b/c we're not getting an official LP from Moto? B/c if thats the case, sell your device, get a new one that will get/come with LP on it, then try to root and get your bootloader unlocked without taking into consideration Chainfire's predictions from I think CM10.1 or 10.2, that just so happen to be coming true about how root is basically dead and the system becomes more locked down than you see it now. Be happy with what we have and relax. The world, including yours, will not go down in an apocalyptic fury just b/c you don't have an official update from Moto to KK. In the meantime, for all you protesters out there still ranting and raving about wanting a Moto update, enjoy the Kool Aid!
[Motorola Atrix HD] progrockguy:
Man, you keep saying "we" and "our" as though us laymen were involved in bringing 4.4 to both KK and JBBL. We did nothing. It's all because of our device CM maintainers, a group that keeps getting smaller unfortunately.

Yeah we have KK running, but it's a hack of JB components (a damn good hack nonetheless imo). "Porting" the KKBL (is that a serious suggestion?) would not improve anything. Official 4.4 will bring updated BL, drivers, radios, kernel, etc. If we still have devs by then, incorporating the update would make KK ROMs even better. For instance, on custom ROMs memory-leaking apps kill Swype and LMT, but they never auto-restart/fix! That never happens on stock.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Out of context argument. Clarification to prevent further issues. The terms "we" or "our", or any term that is designed and used in a way to describe a group of people, refers specifically to users who own/operate the device known as Motorola Atrix HD/Atrix HD/AHD/MB886 users to include any user using said device on a Motorola ROM (stock), any custom ROM prior to Feb 2014 (ROMs generally device specific prior to this), any custom ROM between Feb and 30 Jun 2014 (msm_8960), any custom ROM in July 2014 (moto_msm8960-epinter), and any custom ROM from July until otherwise specified (moto_msm8960_jbbl).

Yes, porting was a serious suggestion, or did we forget this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178137
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
porting...

I am struck by how similar our AHD is to the XT925 (Vz) (also announced but waiting) - difference seems to be LTE freqs, and the 10mhz chan (Vz) vs the 10 and 5mhz chans for ATT. though I suppose someone could take the xt925 stock (when it exists) and port it over... and flash an old radio... Speaking hypothetically, of course... :D

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3671&id2=3811
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Maybe not so hypothetical in a few weeks if the update gets canceled :) As for the raging debate about whether or not it matters:

I've been a Motorola fan since the grey brick walkie-talkies and car radios of the 1980s and have been pleasantly surprised by the quality of their stuff across a range of different items over decades. I was waiting for a nice Moto on AT&T for some time and ended up with the AHD. As a returning loyal consumer I would feel betrayed by Motorola if they canceled the KK update... even though I'd probably just try it on for a bit then go back to custom ROMS anyhow.

"Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)"

as do many of us :)

{EDIT} To your point about similarity. I bet the only reason they are different models at all is because Verizon and or AT&T (and a touch of Motorola) did not want to work out having same phone for both providers.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Verizon may own service marks "droid" and "razr"...
[Motorola Atrix HD] reix2x:
well at this point i rather to be hopeful and not to be negative, but i cant deny that i'm worried about the future of our devices, in this moment of my life i just don't have the time to test releases and that stuff because i need an stable phone, i'm even using a Stock 4.1 from Bell, it works fine but i want to use some apps that needs KK, y have tested some KK releases but the stability isn't good enough, i can't hold 20 or 30 reboots a day, of coarse i don't blame the developers, to me they are doing a great job. So i hope our AHD's get some moto attention earlier than later.
[Motorola Atrix HD] bmatney:
20-30 reboots a day? If that's really the case then its something other than the ROM. Our kk ROMs are as stable as stock for me.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I get zero reboots per day......... :D

unless I'm flashing a new nightly - then it's maybe 2 for that.....
[Motorola Atrix HD] theenlightened1:
I'm running CM11 Snapshot - the latest one for a while and its as good as stock.. no problems and very stable.. having seen Lollipop I no longer want official KK for AHD.. I want Android 5
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Just days away from the source code release :) idk what I'm more anxious for, the LP source code or the new F&F7 trailer lol
[Motorola Atrix HD] Semseddin:
Did anyone contact motorola and ask when Atrix HD eventually gets official 4.4 ? i fear Atrix HD's update promise would end up like it never happened for the Atrix 4g from gingerbread to ics
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Many of us Motorola owners are 'returning users' and had bad prior experiences with Moto not keeping their words on updates for our previous phone(s) ... so news here.

[I ran almost 3 years exclusively on CM7 on a Moto Defy and last I've checked, the CM11 development is still going strong. Quarx is still pulling magic around the device's 512MB ram limitations.]

Although it would be really hard for me to stay on THAT one last CM11 build without having any new nightly builds' goodies to look for, I'd be perfectly OK if whatever my phone currently runs on was all it ever sees as far as OS goes...

Heck, I had the same conviction when jbbl was temporarily stopped being officially nightly built a few months back...

So I'd just say that: why not just stop worrying so much about the next OS (/officiall kkbl) and enjoy your phone as it is now?

The Atrix HD is a neat phone and CM11 serves it very well as it is. Who knows, I might stick with this combo as long as I did with my Defy. And then maybe get a Nexus 6 with CM 14

LOL [emoji1]
[Motorola Atrix HD] Semseddin:
Cm is always an option but stock base for new os release is a whole another story. Personally i dont even own ahd but even the razr i got kitkat update, it is questinable why ahd didnt get it yet.
[Motorola Atrix HD] NikolasV:
i'm worrying because i have a lapdock and now i stuck on holoblur rom.

this is the last rom with lapdock support. people told that RHD on oficial KK supports lapdock very well (as on ICS)
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Good point.

One of the few last unresolved issue in CM11 vs stock and it's a bummer I'm sure.
[Motorola Atrix HD] dbrown89441:
Motorola says Kitkat 4.4.4 is available for Atrix HD

I used Motorola Live Chat twice yesterday...

BOTH reps told me that Kitkat 4.4.4 for the Atrix HD is complete and HAS been released to AT&T.

It is now up to AT&T to release it to us.

Of course, AT&T tells me they are unaware of any software update for the Atrix HD... :/
[Motorola Atrix HD] Hassan Aftab:
well we are stuck like we were children, when we wanted something mom said go ask dad and dad said go ask mom. hahaha

they joking with us.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Did you flash stock and try to update?

EDIT: there's an update out there called

98.5.38.en.US (6.2MB) "enhanced security for AHD"

stuff

verify current system

removing unneeded files

patching system files

patching boot image

stuff

unpack recovery

stuff

undating sbl 1,2,3

then gets stuck on gpt_main0.bin...

EDIT2: apparently it wasn't stuck, it just finished and didn't tell me, so rebooted and android updated all apps

ah but says failed to update. (this is a May 2014 update...

ah2 but

sysver 98.5.38

4.1.1

kern 3.0.42-

9.8.0.9-97_MB886-FW-28

build date Apr 28 2014

so apparently it took...

EDIT3: but root is gone and re-rooting it with myth just put another su pgm in there but still not rooted.

RSDlite fails on "update gpt_main version failed"

help...

Filename: MB886_att-user-4.1.1-9.8.0Q-97_MB886_FFW-20-27-release-keys-ATT-US_BuildA.xml

Creation Date: 08/29/2013 02:40:34

File size: 2404

Sofware Version: MB886_att-user 4.1.1 9.8.0Q-97_MB886_FFW-20 27 release-keysMB886_BP_100740.071.65.04P

For Phone Model: DINARAJB_CFC

help... :crying:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Saw this earlier but did not realize it was so bad. Ouch!

MB886_att-user-4.1.1-9.8.0Q-97_MB886_FFW-20-27-release-keys-ATT-US_BuildA.xml is the same one I've successsfully used, and 98.5.38 is the heartbleed patch, although I got mine via OTA after going stock. There may also be a whole stock installer that includes the Heartbleed patch.

How about using the same stock ROM image flashed via Mythtools 1.3 then getting the patch via OTA, or just try to flash the updated stock ROM if you can find it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Thanks.

I did the update via OTA. It apparently took just fine.

I thought root was bad but just TiBkp is not working so maybe a re-install... Flashify can't get root...

I tried mythtools flash recovery but it didn't.

I tried unlock bootloader but it did nothing.

I tried flash recovery using fastboot and it took. 6044 yay!

I backed up the modded stock and restored 11-04N and booted to it. double yay!

My PBE PICNIC here was not using fastboot to flash recovery... :o

So maybe the only thing I'm missing is the stock that includes that mod in case I have to RSD it. <------------------

tomorrow!
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Whew!

I researched the one file I have which I thought was the stock ROM with the update but found a reference to it bricking someone's phone and skeevydude recommending that it not be used so stay away from it - MB886_niimx-user-4.1.2-9.8.2Q-50_MB886_NII_TA-2-16-release-keys-NII-MX.xml.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Look in the Atrix HD threads, there has been a previous OTA update that did that but could then be rooted with another root method (universal root? - I can't remember now..)
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
At the risk of participating in a conversation that has partially derailed this thread as well as providing information you may already have, have you tried any of the firmwares here, http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=7?
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Thanks all for looking in!!!!!!!

Yeah, whew!!! Thanks for the warning! So I assume you have not RSDlite'ed since you updated to that?

It occurs to me that there is in fact NO stock ROM that includes that update. So I must hope that I never need one! ... RSDlite will prevent any other stock ROM from flashing.

Link is bad...
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
Sorry, try this http://sbf.droid-developers.org and select Atrix HD.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Not recently - I see there is a 98.5.38 US which I am downloading now and will test. Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
No problem. I recently used the 98.5.38 file with the instructions here, http://www.andromods.com/tips-trick...-qinara-stock-original-firmware-fastboot.html, to unroot/restore my AHD and it worked perfectly. Good luck!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
failed on unknown command getvar

I assume I just delete this line

<step operation="getvar" var="max-download-size" />

any others I should delete?

oddly this is not off track as folks wanting KK will probably have to flash it...

EDIT: the answer is just delete that one line (I used open-archive, edit, in 7zip) and it flashed fine and reboots fine.

turn debugging on

root with myth

flash recovery with fastboot

voila.
[Motorola Atrix HD] MrScientist:
That's all you need to delete. Just follow the steps in the link in my latter post.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Huge thanks! didn't see that post until all done - reinvent wheel! But relatively easy ! Thanks!!! :highfive:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I've never RSD-ed and I've only gone back to stock once (well twice as I messed something up and made a second successful pass but as part of the same project). Mythtools 1.3 to flash stock ATT ROM, OTA for heartbleed, then Philz to flash custom ROM. Never played with partitions or radios and never had to go back to stock again.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
So in other words, at the present moment, its not a Motorola issue, but an AT&T issue instead
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, we all have our own routine I guess...

Whenever I decide to clean flash CM, I go all out and fastboot stock + philz, root then CM...

I don't patch stock for hearbleed since CM is patched for it.