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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] samuelrf:
Sorry bro but which is the first kernel? TF18B? havent read that name before

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Mercado_Negro:
TiBu does work on KitKat. In fact, today they released a new version supporting SMS/MMS backup and restore in this new Android version. You probably just read about TiBu not working when ART is used which is true.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Its the newest "unreleased" trinity kernel that I know of.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47571401

Pure Speed X? ~ ViPER4Android ? [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
What Rom did you dirty flash over?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
This actually makes a lot of sense in my mind... would love to see what someone could say to argue with your statement.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] xda_emanuel:
Guys i got i weird thing when i asking a call, the brightness become high even though it is set at minimum. Does anyone got this problem too? And is there some fix?

Edit: Problem also with sensors when i close the incoming call, the screen start lighting and almost crazy
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Martin_Ro:
Hm, no, haven't seen that till now :confused:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Elwood_It:
How about the fact that Titanium Backup doesn't work with ART? And also whatsapp needs some work to function with ART.

ART is still a WIP, and this ROM with Dalvik and the many optimizations doesn't really need ART to be super fast.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
I'll be more explicit.

I would love to see what someone would say to argue with Kel Ghu's statement regarding battery savings and responsiveness with ART.

Nothing about compatibility, simply in terms of battery and responsiveness, I would suppose and agree that it is impossible for interpreted code to compete with compiled code.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Elwood_It:
I'm sorry I misunderstood, of course you are right, iOS and Windows Phone are clear examples of that.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pejakovic1:
Does this ROM combined with franco kernel r194 support OTG? If not, will the new PSK support OTG?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
+1
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] urim225:
guys I'm sorry to ask and maybe it was answered before but will this ROM be updated to KRT16S ? should I wait or flash the latest one from the op ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kalpik:
It's KRT16O right now. The next version (rumored to be out in another couple of days) will be based on KRT16S.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] captaindyson:
I had a similar problem to this a month or so back, the cause of mine was that as a result of having a screen protector and rugged case on my nexus grime and dirt had built up around the sensor area and was obstructing the proximity sensor (and in your case presumably the light intensity sensor too.)

Try giving your phone a good clean with a microfibre cloth and if you have a case or screen protector on your phone then remove them if the cleaning does not help. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ktomov:
Franco's kernel doesn't support OTG. I'm not sure if that will drop on PSK too.

I've tried both Dalvik and ART, and on my usage there was no difference between them in terms of battery life. About the speed, current test builds give me better user experience with Dalvik than with ART. I know that in terms of how ART work and how Dalvik work, ART should be better, but you forget that's in early beta stage, while Dalvik was modified and fine tuned for the last years. You're free to try ART, but Dalvik is recommended with the rom.

Yes it will. The commits are already merged and next build will be KRT16S with many more features. You'll be amazed how much features will drop with v2 ;) Stay tuned!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kalpik:
If I kill myself waiting for v2, I want [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] to be blamed :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] urim225:
Yes it will. The commits are already merged and next build will be KRT16S with many more features. You'll be amazed how much features will drop with v2 ;) Stay tuned![/QUOTE]

OK then I guess I will wait a little more and I wish it will be as snappy as stock with art enabled :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ktomov:
If you are so eager to try it, you can always build it from the github ;)

It's faster than anything I've used so far with Dalvik ;) When next build drop, you'll all forget about ART. Trust me! I'm on last night nightly build for the last 4 hours and it's rocking stable and DAMN fast!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kalpik:
I know! I used to run a buildbot for a couple of ROMs for a couple of devices, but I'm just too swamped these days. No time :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] d1xt1r:
v1 is flawless, I'm sure that v2 will be perfect. :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] urim225:
I'm so excited,can't wait. Thanks for the info man
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ktomov:
I know the feeling bro. I was really busy the weekend and couldn't get my hands on the test releases and today I'm amazed!

You don't know how hard is to resist to post some screenshots teasers :D

But hell, I'll tease you during the time you wait [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] to post his teasers lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
Yes. I can't tell the difference in term of speed and battery efficiency's between ART vs Dalvik. But one thing that obvious is ART slightly disturbing my radio (27-97 hybrid). Well at least on my device.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kel Ghu:
Right? :)

If we talk about the code Dalvik VM has already compiled, maybe it is a bit faster. But compiling on the fly can't contain as many optimization as in a fully compiled code. I believe ART is functionnal, it just misses features and compiling optimizations. Yes, it requires to flash a zip file in order to use Whatsapp (which is not a problem for any of the people here on XDA, right?). And TB still doesn't work, but I am sure it's going to be fixed really quickly. I know it is kind of a "revolution" for developers, because none of them want interpreted code. If you are a coder, you want compiled code for sure! (Honestly, why would the end-user want interpreted code on his phone? Javascript is 20 times slower than C++)

Even in its current state, not having Dalvik to compile on the fly all the time is just enough for me to use ART, because that's huge already! Less optimized code can't drain more battery than compiling it everytime (unless it's really bugged, which can happen, but from what I've seen I can honestly doubt it). Compatibility is the only issue I have encountered so far, but I have not been affected beside whatsapp.

Would I recommend regular user to use ART? No, of course not. But for geeky people like you and battery life fanatics, if everything you need works, then go ART all the way! If you don't think ART is faster, it will be in the future. There's no way around it. When you know how it works, you can't be convinced Dalvik is better.

One thing for sure, stay on PSX.

Latest read about it: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...ormance-wont-blow-away-today-will-get-better/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Once optimizations for Art start coming out I totally agree. For now, as I live in the present, I guarantee you with no reservations you will be missing performance using Art on V2 at least. If Art is your thing you can get the same performance on any Rom. If pure speed is your thing, optimized Dalvik is untouchable. You can certainly have your opinion and express it here freely, but I have mine as well and all development currently is going into making Dalvik faster. For me personally, this is the absolute smoothest, fastest experience Ive ever had with this device....better than any 4.3 Rom Ive tried including any PSX roms in the past. The Moto Dalvik patch does make a very tangible real world difference, much more so then the S4 patch did on 4.3. Battery is stellar as well.....but YMMV and to each their own. Do what makes you happy :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kalpik:
Can't wait for v2 :D

Just a suggestion: add your github to the OP.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
My gits in my sig....and source will be in the OP once PSK is added in V2
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] kalpik:
I know about your signature. Just wanted to mention about OP, in case you missed it :)

Good to know about v2 :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Not really any point posting source for a Rom only....need to with kernels, so I will.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
I can attest to this. I've tested PSX V2 with both ART and Dalvik (not looking at benchmark numbers) as daily drivers , and I can say the real-world performance is noticeable. Not only is V2 just that much more responsive (rediculous), but the MotoX patch and Dalvik optimizations currently in place make a difference in the way the ROM flows. There isn't a TON of battery usage difference as of right now... at least not enough to sell me on ART just yet. Maybe when ART becomes more mainline, sure. But as of right now, PSX V2 is untouchable when it comes to off the chart performance and great battery usage.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] thenessus:
Am I to understand moto x patch will be included in next release?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Qwerty123 \m/:
My body is ready for this.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] derekr44:
A tweaked version, yes. It was in yesterday's nightly.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] LarsPT:
Could you all please STOP saying how awesome V2 is, at least until it's released, please?!

:silly:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Targaeryan:
Will my manta be getting some psx love anytime soon? ;) :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Hello,

I've a problem : I've made a full wipe, flash PSX, Gapps, Addons, and Super SU but the phone says me that I'm not rooted ....

Someone can help me ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Targaeryan:
Is the supersu app there in the app drawer? If not download from the play store and open it and let it install the binaries.. (The normal method. Not twrp/cwm.) Then it'll work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ScouseReaper:
Trickster says my device is unrooted too, any ideas anyone?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hello247:
you tried foraging supersu again?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] :
Yes, she's on appdrawer, but when I launch it, she says that I'm not rooted and she close after this message.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] senthilrameshjv:
A quick teaser of what's coming.. My scores are always 300 points less in both benches.. So be ready to expect the be(a)st.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Targaeryan:
You try flashing supersu again? Also, try uninstalling it and reinstalling from the play store..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] m_harsh:
Oh god... I didn't know there are so many testers... Just knew 4-5 of them:P
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] soumoks:
ya,its like the nexus 5 all over again :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] SteveRiley:
Yep, it's certainly faster than my previous ROM (AOKP 4.2.2). But battery life was noticeably shorter and the phone ran hotter. Even trying to force lower min and max speeds in Trickster didn't help -- MPdecision kept overriding. After I flashed Faux's kernel and made my usual tweaks (intelliplug, eco mode, snake charmer, 100mv undervolt), battery life improved and the phone runs cool.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vicino:
Sorry OP for going a little off-topic.

For everyone, don't use ART. ART runtime wasn't meant to be used by normal android user's for now, it's available only for obtaining early developer and Google partners feedback.

Even Google request everyone to use Dalvik "Dalvik must remain the default runtime or you risk breaking your Android implementations and third-party applications." - source: Google.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Zetok:
Will be v2 undervolted out of the box?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dxxvi:
I wish I knew how. Could any dev do us a big favor by adding in the OP the instruction of how to build it from github? I promise I'll contribute to that instruction once I successfully build psx.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] okanb3:
[MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] Can you please add a build guide for your rom from your source? Btw thanks for your rom. It's my favourite rom since you make it for GNexus. When i uprageded for N4, i came home and flash PSX right away!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
PSK in v2 will be basically identical to PSK in 4.3....except faster.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ktomov:
Maybe when I have a time, will write step by step guide how to build the rom but .. my concerns are that we'll get headaches by that. There are lots of instructions all over the forum and most of the people want to get all the info just like reply to their questions no matter in which thread they post. I assume that if most of you couldn't find the 10 steps to sync and build the rom from the source, we will get the thread flooded with not working build, or problematic builds.

But well ... if there is a demand for a step by step guide, I could write it ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fario78:
Very good job, this rom is the best of all, any idea when v2 will be available? tomorrow I'll have to use the pc to download the rom.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rbanaco:
Hello there ppl! I am on psx v1 all stock! I can't seem to reach others sot times... And i believe these values are not ok... Could someone help?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
Are those app permissions we can access in your rom those android in-build?

see: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-ops-from-color-tiger-and-enhanced-with-root/

Or are they somehow added from cm or something like that.

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] capncybo:
Very fair statement... and I believe you are correct as it would likely lead to many, many more questions.

Myself I would build but see I'm stuck at step one...

Requires a (64bit OS & capable) computer.

Someday I'll buy one and give it a go... but seriously after this PSX version drops most including myself should be very happy with our phones.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Android OS can be high for the first battery cycle while the ROM settles. If you just flashed, wait a day.

If you didn't just flash, a high OS awake time probably means one of the pre installed apps or gapps is acting up. Can you gather some BBS information and post screens?

Though tbh a reboot frequently fixes this sort of thing.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dunni88:
:D That's exactly what I want.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rbanaco:
Hy! Tnks for the feedback! I hadn't bbs installed. I have psx installed for 1week let me do a restart and then i can't post if things still the same. Thanks for the suggestion!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
That's actually one of the more on topic posts ive seen here.

Also CT actually encourages off topic posts as it brings the users together as a community.:good:

The original thread must have been over 1000 pages of off topic rambling, with a good 90% belonging to van and pictures of his pub. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
Also don't use root, custom roms, kernels, recoveries, sell your nexus and buy an iphone. And yes - don't jailbreak it.

How sick this advise is on nexus forums? Leave ART alone!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Kaffeekranz:
That's information addressed at the vendors, not at 'us power-users'.

Of course it breaks a few apps, but if you're okay with that then I don't see a reason not to use it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Cliff1:
So much hype! Dammit are you purposely doing this to me right now?! Lol. Its not my ROM and I want it now!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] converge12:
Best combo of battery and features as far as 4.4 roms out right now...
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pejakovic1:
Damn if this ROM had multiwindows from omni it would be soooo awesome!! :D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Yea....we're only moderately hip right now...Long way to go for awesome yet ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ReMuSeR:
Long live psx :p:p:p

Replied with PSX Rom
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Id have to agree.

If awesome is the equivalent to all the cool kids moshing to smash metal , PSX is the equivalent to your Nan and granddad bopping in the disco to One direction.;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] mhasan90:
So many teasers, can't wait for the actual release
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] vicino:
Sorry if I offend you in my last statement, but the thing you said are unrelated because ART is there only so Google can obtain early feedback from

developer's

and

partner's.

Can I say my opinion here and please her me out, I think Google is preparing for a lot of change in android regarding android-in-Go, Go 2.0 can handles 64-bit much better than 32-bit anyway.

Why Google testing ART?

Future high level optimization (compiler/sea_or)

New file format for DEX bytecode (OAT)

Why not now?

Android is implemented in Java. Pretty much all of Google Play Services is implemented in Java.

That means android can rely less on the fact that graphics and guts of many UI widgets are native code under a thin layer of Java. Android was always a Java OS. So you will not find any different if you switch to ART unless you are doing significant computation in your own app.

The new compiled written in C++ instead of the Dalvik C.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Z4nd4r:
Found a bug and the thread search feature is currently down, so I don't know if it's been reported, yet. When I use Google Voice typing and turn the screen off while the GV keyboard is still up I get a reboot. Happens pretty much every time. I believe this is with the market keyboard installed; not sure if GV typing is tied to that or the native keyboard, though.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
See attachment.:D
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] 0.0:
I got this error when building:

ld: warning: directory not found for option '-Lout/host/darwin-x86/obj/lib'
ld: warning: option -s is obsolete and being ignored
ld: unknown option: -O2
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [out/host/darwin-x86/obj/EXECUTABLES/mkbootfs_intermediates/mkbootfs] Error 1

my .bash_profile is this

export BUILD_MAC_SDK_EXPERIMENTAL=1
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/android-sdk/tools:/usr/local/android-sdk/platform-tools:/usr/local/android-sdk/tools:/usr/local/android-sdk/platform-tools:/usr/local/android-sdk/tools:/usr/local/android-sdk/platform-tools

anyone know how to fix it? thanks :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
...and I ji**ed in my pants... xD :cyclops::D:victory::silly::cool:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rustyjay:
The google voice issues being reported in testing seems to be related to gapps. I was ahving voice issues but now on different gapps and all is good.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Thanks. *puts down Greek yogurt and walks away*. :(

---------- Post added at 07:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 PM ----------

What you gapps are/where you using?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rustyjay:
I was using Banks 11/16 and now on th Pa full gapps 11/19
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
Im still using banks 11/11 with no problems. If it aint broke dont fix it.:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
I am sorry bro. I will try to refund your loss :(

But somehow it's magic... This post is seen straight away.

But noone seems to have seen this one:

xD
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Last minute technical difficulties we need to shore up...getting close though. Id guess Wednesday now....MAYBE tomorrow, definitely not today though. We do right, not quick.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
Me: v2 not out yet, oh ok.

Other people: v2 is so smooth and fast can't wait till it comes out.. Damn so many teasers. My slut is thirsty

I lOVE MY SLUTTY N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sqbo:
I believe in next version will be fixed default browser lags.

Loading of pages is really fast but it still lags.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RevUnix:
rom update?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Ive never seen browser lag in any 4.4 build.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Z4nd4r:
I'm having the issue with the PSX ones linked in the OP; the GApps Standard package. Any others I should try loading up instead? Maybe just the keyboard one?

Another thing I've noticed, though only intermittently: the FFC sometimes takes a blank shot (all white or all black). Not a huge deal, but can be an annoyance.

I've also noticed that this ROM is otherwise awesome and makes me look like a Greek God. Not sure if that's intended, but I like it.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] eminembdg:
This is with just my normal setup. Fsync is on, mpdecision is on. Only thing I did was increase read ahead to 1024.

Amazing
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
We're going to get this sorted out one way or the other, before releasing it. Im actually surprised this wanst noticed or reported till now.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sqbo:
For me it lags. When I click somewherw it freeze for 1-2 seconds.

I made full wipe + format system.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] HewettBR:
I'm using hells core for 4.4 seems to be the most battery friendly and smooth for me. Having almost 0 lag
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] zygis10:
Thanks for awesome rom to the whole psx team. Wanted to thank you before v2 is released ;) The only problem is that when I try to open new incognito tab in browser, it force closes there can be a provlem on my side though. So could someone confirm that? Anyways that is not a problem for me :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] droid_legacy:
yes. well known bug in 4.4. You are not alone ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] dully79:
What people think team PSX is doing:

What they are actually doing:

Oh no wait... ive posted pictures of my mum again:o:(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bobo1337:
I haveproblems with aosp browser too!Some graphic glich when i close it and i can't select any documunet or anything when i whanna share with any share page (2shared,speedyshare) and sometimes it won't open mx player but default one.i hope i am not the only one (btw sry for my bad eng)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Jiia:
I just had a hot-reboot right after I hung up a call. There seems to be tons of errors there, can anyone make sense of it?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Don't know if this was banks gapps mess up but I can't change any camera setting
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] rustyjay:
Don't think so, turns out having fsync off was the culprit of the voice stuff.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] converge12:
Flashing the 4.4 dialer results in errors when I use it...

How can I get the new Google dialer ID feature working? :-|
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Known AOSP issue....add it to the no incognito mode and no history issue as well. I think Google is officially done updating the AOSP browser and all the new Chromium stuff is messing with much of the functionality.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Nope....I lied....its makes it worse but its not even kernel related...:(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Stock kernel on a clean flash?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] bobo1337:
Oh..ok thanks