yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] deani77:
On stock kernel or custom kernel?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Sure, on PSX it runs a bit worse then the optimized dalvik.

I'd recommend using dalvik for both better performance and less headaches.

Pure Speed X? ~ ViPER4Android ? [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
No better than the highly optimized Dalvik...and Dalvik has no app issues. Art will be very impressive one the optimizations for it start pouring out....Ill be all over them.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Lap823:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47591420
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Austin Ag06:
I've been here for quite awhile I just don't post much. I follow the thread ever day though!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
That's gonna be fun to watch grow into its full potential. :)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] at4r1:
We're still here, silently flashing away. Thanks for the hard work.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
Just found out this thread. Thanks for your effort CT.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Wow, we have regulars I dont even know.....the silent majority I hope ;) Vangelis is gone now though so you guys can come out.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hypemanisus:
Hi I'm I the only one who don't have the camera app? Using pa full gapps?

I LOVE MY SLUTTY N4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] estallings15:
This ROM is amazing. Thank you so much! It runs like a scalded ape.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
The Rom doesnt come with a camera.....never has. Its in the GApps package. Why I recommend Banks's, its what we designed special for this Rom and its needs.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sound.wav:
You can use the standard gapps from op you'll have camera and most Google apps. Or there is a separate zip you can flash for just the camera. Same place, look in the gapps link in the op
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] grzesiek1945:
Hi, nice rom, Very Quick and stable, it is possible to add torch on lockscreen? :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Devin Cuthbertson:
O BTW op, there is a Google dialer zip that deletes the aosp dialer and still works great
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] at4r1:
Haha, so no more meme's huh?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Go to security and enable lockscreen widgets.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lzy23:
Are there nav ring targets?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] hartleyshc:
Congratulations [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION] you now have another huge thread to monitor. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DemosZevasa:
I'm the one who searches and never ask questions, but am a regular :P

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
Link please?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] coontag:
Ok I mentioned it before but I've had 3 reboots today on bone stock settings from a full clean wipe. Anyone have similar experience?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] JaylanPHNX:
I think I had one. I wasn't watching the phone, but I came back to it with the trickster set on boot notification displayed.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] slAsh_wInd:
Just switch to Art, the lag when tap recent app when use some app reduce but still appear sometime. And I think it noticeable faster, smoother than dalvik, all app are compatible, except timely.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
Obviously different apps will behave different using dalvik vs ART. I think Kel Ghu is just asking for examples to test himself. Not questioning each of your "personal experiences". The more facts/data helps all of us make better decisions. I have used art & dalvik and I don't see big difference yet between the two. (Big differences however from early dalvik code). When apps are built for art then we will see greater improvements.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] pyr0sphere:
Using ART on v2 and stock kernel. Everything seems faster to me :/

I suggest everyone at least try ART once instead of just assuming dalvik is faster bc that's what's going around in the thread.

No need to bash Kel Ghu
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
While I appreciate your attempt at mediation, the fact is that Dalvik has been HIGHLY optimized as opposed to ART which has yet to be properly utilized by any apps or system services.

My "personal experiences" as you sardonically state, lead me to use Dalvik over ART. I'm not in any way arguing that ART doesn't have promise. I've used it on several other roms, as well as PSX, and it is my "personal experience" that Dalvik has been an overall better experience FOR ME.

If someone else has a different experience, then that's absolutely wonderful, welcome to reality, where people have subjective experiences. I don't need to prove to or convince anyone else that my experience is correct, because it's MINE.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
This is completely right.

Use and decide for yourself don't take my own ( or anyone else's ) word for what will work best for you.

There is no doubt in my mind dalvik is best for me.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
Didn't sardonically state anything nor was there anything directed towards you. Sorry to hear you are oversensitive about about what other people post on forums. Only point I was trying to make is this argument reminds me of the days Windows 98 was being replaced by Windows XP. Initially legacy programs ran better on the older version of windows. As software developers incorporated new code it was obvious that Windows XP was better. It took some time, but software got better because it wasn't build on a lousy foundation (DOS). Dalvik was built so android could quickly adopt all the new hardware coming out. But going forward ART will most likely supplant Dalvik. But Dalvik remains most peoples choice because it runs legacy apps now. Optimized Dalvik and ART both seem on Par. I am sure for some people ART will run their apps better. For others, Dalvik is the best choice. Earlier poster just asked for some examples to test for himself. As far as I am concerned this is an argument not worth pursuing.....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] v3rk:
It's not just what's going around the thread, it's also what's recommended by the developer.

It's probably just placebo effect. Remember when people used to say you should clear battery stats for better battery life, and it turned out to be inconsequential and useless?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctakah27:
can't get swift key keyboard to work on v2... FCs
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
First, how silly of me to consider your use of "personal experiences" to be sardonic and directed at me.. Next time I won't contextualize what you post at all. That should prevent any sort of misunderstanding, no? (yes, that was sarcasm).

Edit: just to be perfectly clear, you're not even a face to me, you couldn't POSSIBLY hurt my feelings. But I appreciate your apology, all the same ;)

Second, this was never an argument, it was a discussion. It was the snide comment about propaganda from said original poster that turned this ugly. We were merely expressing that there is no way to give examples for personal preference. Again, there are benchmarks for Dalvik, if he wants to run some benches on ART, that's really the only direct comparison that can be provided.

Yes, ART will supplant Dalvik, there's no question or disagreement about that. But, as of this moment, right now, it hasn't had the work put into it to supplant Dalvik for my usage.

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SwiftKey working fine here. Try wiping app data and/or reinstalling?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tim4828:
I am not sure if it is only me having this GPS problem. I have did a full wipe and flashed to PSX v2 with stock kernel. Now my GPS is not working.

Are you guys facing the same issue?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ferrocene:
It's not. I've used cwm 6.0.3.6 for awhile with no problem on any ROM. Dunno what they changed in newer versions.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Might as well post this again...

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctakah27:
Weird. Did a complete phone data wipe, clean-reflashed the rom and used PA gapps instead of banks like the first time swift failed, and still the same. Been using swift since it came out on many rooms..
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Maybe try the Uninstall, reboot, and reinstall? Or get a logcat for further investigation? First report I've seen, so it seems isolated.

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GPS is fine here too, it did take a while to lock for me, but it did eventually. What radio are you using?

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Correct, it is not required. Only recommended because it has proven to work with the fewest issues. If what you're using works, no need to switch.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] jonathan413:
love your psk kernel on overstock..very fast and fluid.:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
I used that phrase generically to make the point and to insinuate Kel Ghu was making a legitimate request. His post did not come across to me as snide or ugly. You seem to

egotistical

with your posts. If you want to get in a flame war I suggest we take it offline for the better of the community. I would be more than happy to bicker any points you want to make in a PM. I can easily hold my own in a lopsided flame match! /end sarcasm :p
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] NoLunchBox_:
If you use ART, that's good for you. Keep using it, no one is saying not to use it.

Dalvik was optimized and is very fast just as the dev made it to be.

In the end, you can use w.e your heart desires, both at great.

Just stop clogging the thread with useless crap and focus on helping each other out :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] c_86:
Anyone else having issues with their folders not opening properly. See attached.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Maybe you should re-read the past few pages? Going by context, you didn't use it generically. And again, going by context, his comment was sarcastic, which could very easily be considered snide.

That being said, I'm willing to accept that I may have misread the context, it's not unheard of. If you think this is a flame war, perhaps you misread the context of my replies as well.

I would be more than willing to continue this conversation (read: not argument) in private if that's what you desire.

I'd like to reiterate that this was never about who is right or wrong; Personal experiences having been mentioned at least 4 times, I would hope that was made clear.

I just gotta nitpick one last thing.. If your entire reply was supposed to be read as sarcasm, then that would imply you're completely unwilling to pursue this conversation in private. This essential disconnect in the understanding of verbal cues could be the linchpin to this whole catastrophe of a discussion.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] coontag:
::Yawn::

Really guys?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tim4828:
GPS is fine here too, it did take a while to lock for me, but it did eventually. What radio are you using?

I am using the hybrid, W97C33O97. Could this be the issue?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
The verbal cue was to take it offline....did I miss a beat...?

Point made....
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Hmm, hate to keep being that guy with no issues, but it's fine here. Does it persist after a reboot? I'm using Nova as my main launcher right now, so this is a fresh instance of Google launcher in the screenshot.

Could try switching launchers and switching back :/
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Naw I wouldn't think so. That's what I'm using also. I assume location settings are set up how you want them already?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
One more post on ART I'm activating this threads self destruct sequence...you've been warned.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] arcticrobot:
Yet every single time art is mentioned few individuals have to come up with how great optimized dalvik is and how faster it seems in their PERSONAL use. Instead of encouraging user to try both runtimes on his own they are all advising(even though not being asked for) to use dalvik. It is almost religious. If you feel entitled to provide advise to other users please be so kind to support it with scientific comparison.

All this said, in regular day to day use art is as fast as optimized dalvik and provides better battery life.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Damn it, kinda wish CT would pop in and bash some heads around.

This has to be the worst few pages in PSX history.

Also almost everyone has said "try it and see" so you are making a moot point.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] qbanways:
outgoing MMS

What's up guys. Ever since I updated to the 11/27 version I cannot send MMS; I can received them though. When I updated I also flashed the Franco kernel. Was wondering if anyone is having same issue?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] singlebyte:
Two things I can think of:

Your APN & possibly MMS Proxy is not configured correctly.

(one more thing...Possible Radio issue)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
REALLY? That's a bit dramatic.. V1 release was pretty brutal.. If it's that bad, report the posts and they'll just get removed.

What app are you using for mms? Hangouts was giving a lot of people issues with mms previously, myself included.

Haven't seen it reported yet, to answer your question.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
you are right I was being a bit dramatic.

(Also you will never see me report any post ever)

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] svnhvn:
Geez guys.. Come on. You want to use ART then use it. You want to use Dalvik then use it. No need to be like this, just enjoy V2, with PSK (or whatever kernel of your choose) and either Dalvik or ART.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
I sincerely apologize
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sky0165:
After 1 day with v2 my screen started to blink.

Does it have something with profiles from franco.Kernel updater ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tim4828:
It is fixed now. I just flashed LTEhybrid33-54-84. Thanks guys :)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
Well now, I'll have to keep that radio handy. Thanks for the follow-up.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RealiZms:
Hey everyone. I'm downloading the latest build now!

Can anyone share their thoughts on the battery life of this ROM in comparison to the stock ROM?

Just curious if I can expect less or more.

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] DontPushButtons:
What profiles do you have set up?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] EspElement:
Agreed with most folks here. ART is soooo fast. Standard PSK. Apps load so much faster. I'm impressed even more!!!
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Rohit02:
For sure you can expect more than stock..

You would be amazed with hell lot of features this ROM is insanely fast,stable and with PSK the battery is awesome.. Testing it currently. :good:

You can give a try to different kernel also.. i will be testing later. ;)
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lalo20:
For me toó using semaphore. Recntly I flashed franco and i dont have blinks yet.

enviado desde nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] RealiZms:
Cool thanks bro!

I usually like to use the kernel that comes with the ROM for a while. It makes it easier to evaluate and test a ROM if you're using the kernel that came with it. And from what I'm reading new kernels can cause problems:good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nileshgr:
Yes, just enabled it seeing lot of posts about it.

Won't say dalvik is slow either, but considerable difference

for me

.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
In sick of this entire thread and frankly the brand of users XDA has now..... I'm not losing another moments sleep over this crap. I'm done reading page after page of nitpicking, how this would be perfect if, user caused issues, and other ridiculousness. I'm certain I never solicited advice and opinion. This is a personal project I/we decided to share publicly...... I must say I'm sad I did. Reading this stuff day after day absolutely sucks all joy out of doing this.

Somewhere along the line it became assumed that developers desire a never ending barrage of things the end user of a free product would like changed, doesn't like, or has some minute thing "wrong". There is no development talk going on here.

I can't read anymore posts that contain things like... I love this ROM , but....

Take it as it comes our use something different. In not sure why people think I get anything from the more people use this. This is not a budding career or some other money making endeavor.

I tried to take a day off answering the endless supply of questions on a holiday only to open page after page of absolute nitpicking nonsense. I really don't like the direction these forums are going, and apart from the couple dozen very helpful people on here, the users either.

This was not my vision for creating this or opening this thread. This was a core group of close "friends" before.... We bs'd , hung out, talked about all sorts of stuff.... It was nice. Then thousands of people start using it and the whole vibe is gone.....

All this has managed to accomplish is to almost guarantee that v2 will be the final public XDA release. It truly saddens me that it would ever come to this. This is the result of unsolicited popularity.... It just kills the joy in doing this. I really, truly don't care if 5 or 5000 people like or use this. We build what we like for us. This isn't some commercial product we're trying to market.....

I have no more to say about this...

Thanks to all who have been helpful.... I'm certain you will still benefit from anything we choose to create in the future.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Tak3r07:
I cant switch to ART.. if i set runtime to ART the device asks for a reboot, i say yes.. then at reboot the apps are load and then dalvik is still active. Anyone knows a solution?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] boyj600:
I have this same issue with mms. I've tried sending from stock messaging, hangouts and contacts+. Weird thing is I can send mms to some of my contacts successfully and then others it refuses. Currently I'm on the 97 radio using Metro PCS. Clean flashed the rom the and used the SuperSU 1.69 update zip. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nileshgr:
So filtering out geeks by letting them build off directly the repository, eh? Don't do this.

I knew this day would come because thread was too forgiving on OT.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] sub1287:
Sorry but its actually the lack of OT that's ****ing this place up.

All the on topic stuff is complete ****.

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
OT has zero to do with any of this. There are plenty of other Roms out there.

If my post had the impression this was to do with the Art v Dalvik debate, it didn't. It has to do with the 100 posts I read before it..... That was just the straw

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] nileshgr:
Guess I was wrong. Anyway, if you plan to kill further public releases, your wish.. it's your rom. Like you said, there are many roms.

I came here because I'm a minimalist when it comes to software on phone or PC.

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In case I was responsible for any of the stupidity which had the tiniest share in this decision, I apologize.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ak:
I've tried many roms, but we have to admit this is the most stable, fast and personalized.

Thanks devs. :good:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
Not at all... This was inevitable. I'm not a fame whore and am not built for this scene. I like to build fun, new things for myself and people who truly enjoy it and aren't just passing by

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[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] lilmeanz:
Smooth rom no issues thanks great work
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] tedr108:
You and your friends have been more patient than most would/could be. Total respect for you all on my end.

Even if you shut it all down (and I would not blame you), I will likely be a happy and grateful user of PSX 4.4 v2 on my N4 for the rest of its useful life. :) For my usage and tastes, this is simply a great rom. A very high percentage of PSX users feel the same, I'm sure.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] fajarlazuarding:
Hello guys, I'm sorry if this not the right place to ask, but is the radio vers has relations with wifi ?

Because starting from stock 4.4 till i use this awesome rom, my wifi keep loosing connection after some time it connected, i mean it become orange/chocolate coloured. But it will going well again after turn off/on wifi, but loosing connection again after some time :(

Thanks for the help
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] smoka206:
All good things must come to an end. You ain't wrong though these forums are full of lazy entitled people. I would be disappointed if you stopped sharing your work, but at the same time I understand your frustration.

I never understood how asking a question that has been asked is faster than searching for it. I think we should have a flame button like the thanks button.

Much respect for your work, it is much appreciated. You do this for free and more than that you use your free time to come here and answer questions for ungrateful peons.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ak:
yes wifi is correlated to radio.
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ginobili1:
It truly is a sad day indeed. If PSX v2 is the last, then I'm really saddened. This has been by far the most optimized ROM that I've ever used. All features built with quality in mind, not quantity; like so many other ROMs out there. I really hope that you guys continue to develop this awesome piece. I know that what you guys do, you do it out of passion and fun, so there's no point if these things are lost anyway.

Anyhoo, Gluck for all your future endeavours. Awesome ROM. And you'll always find a user in me, whatever and whenever you develop. ?
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] NoLunchBox_:
There should be a private XDA forum made that is only invite only.

Maybe that would even things out lol
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] D33PO:
totally understand your decision. lol, in a weird way, this reminds me of the kurt cobain story: he played the music he and his friends loved, got f-ing popular, changed into some bubblegum pop idol, groupies all around him ... and then he blew his head of.

good luck OP! :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] Vangelis13:
This is the worst thread deterioration I've seen in my couple of years in here. Such a shame that things have to come to this Chad. You deserve better than having your nerves & cojones busted like this. No hobby should return such emotions; you're meant to be doing this to relax.

I thought I'd never say such a thing but you should probably close it. The point has been lost.. :(
[Nexus 4 Original Android Development] ctfrommn:
There will be a private forum, just not here. Were not done developing by any stretch.... Just with an active thread here.

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