yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Head-Units] tarzansg:
My 2 cents comments. We all know trying to find something in this tread is getting more painful due to the fact that its growing in pages very rapidly, now we are like 190 pages? However, growing in pages is not the problem, its meant to be this way, where people provide comments, feedback in forum, its suppose to grow, and objectives are met, thats the purpose of having any other forums on the internet.

The other forums i saw are design in such a way where a sigle topic are breakdown into different sub-topic or specific subject relating to the same unit/product. I dont see that here, everyone talk about their own topic everywhere anywhere in the same thread. That where the problem arises. Just for any example, a new member who joined may just be interested in knowing a 3G dongle for example, He may need to read thru the entire thread just to find the answer, eventually he may be knowledgeable in other area but find nothing relating to the 3G dongle. In will be really nice, if we have topic breakdowns, but all related to AN21-U. So people just go to specific topic to comment/learn/contribute in the specific area they are interested in. I know say is much easier than doing, other than that, this forum is wonderful, tons of tons of useful information where one can gain from each other.
[Android Head-Units] fcortes626:
No need to read the whole thread. There is a search feature located at the left where it says "Search this thread". some people are too lazy to use it and ask a question that has been answered before many times.:victory:
[Android Head-Units] guano30:
for some its easy to use the search for other not.....

imagine there are many non native english speakers around here?

and if you are not that much into those technical things like MCU or else how can you know what you have to search?

For somebody who is into this Material its just a pice of cake to find what he is searching for.......

Example

Some told me about shell to use on this Unit to do things..... read out information or else.

I am pretty sure for somebody who is into this material its easy to know that you first need to install busybox.....

But i am honest, i didnt know that!

On the other site there is always a risk to brick this Unit coz not possible to access bootloader or even a CM recovery........

And tarzansg is right........

Why that 190 Pages of mixed Problems and Topics?

The Wiki is a very good Idea!

So please dont mind that much if somebody like me asks here maybe in your eyes stupid questions....

its not purpose all the time

didnt we all started at doing a new thing?

or we all born knowing all?
[Android Head-Units] TOMMYX2:
the app tray is only on the right side.:(.the icons on the right side of the dock I have omitted

With the sizes you need to test yourself as a widget I use Car Widget Pro
[Android Head-Units] guano30:
Now i can give you an Update about the Mic, hopefully nobody did before me.

But I used Search and didnt find anybody else trying what i did. ;)

So i disconected the internal Mic by cuting off the wires.

I bought an amp to boost the Mic connection on the back.

But

Nothing really happend with that connection. Even the Booster dont take affect like i wish.

So i come to the Point that the Mic Plug on the back is more Fake than real......

So i did something different.

Now i solder my Parrot Mic at the original Internal Connectors and hey...... it worked well :)

So for those Guys who have Problems with low noise Mic.

Solution is to connect a better Mic to the Connectors inside the Unit.

Cheers
[Android Head-Units] kschumake83:
Scallio,

Thank you for the great post, all though the people who need to read it won't, because it is too long. I have gotten so annoyed with xda lately, all it has become is a place for people to come and annoy developers or put down their extremely time consuming and MFING FREE work. I use tapatalk a lot and yes the search feature does suck but at least read the 1st post and last 10 pages, 9 out of 10 chances your answer will be there or at least a better understanding of what you are working on.

On to my main reason for opening my mouth, I don't know if you want to put it in the wiki or not, and I did post it quite a few pages ago, but xposed works great for play music to SD. Also when music is stored on the SD play music does not have any issues like not playing the next song. This was the main deal breaker for me and I am so glad this works. Thanks again to the person who brought this up, can't remember the name and once again I'm using tapatalk so search sucks and I don't want to lose my 15 minutes of typing.

+1 to thanking donaldta, he has helped me out more than he knows. His posts are always informative and he answers questions way too quickly
[Android Head-Units] guano30:
lol ok guys!

I stop Posting here.....

I think it depends on your Nationality....... Happy greetings to MR NSA Obama....

You dont have girls or wives you can play with?

If you annoyed by questions who some users make here why not ignoring it?

Instead you crying a river that nobody hits the search button.....

If somebody dont even know, that MCU is the part to search how can he type those fuc.... letters into search?

But you both are great.........feeded with tons of spoons of wiseness

I apologize to you all and i crawl back in the non brainful hole i come out of....

Hope it dont get boring to you if nobody asks that stupid questions here so you can explode to tell them they too stupid to use the search button!

hope you happy now!

so long......
[Android Head-Units] Drakey83:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UGD0fV45g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Android Head-Units] omarko:
hi guys, I received my unit :

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331089665694?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

and it works beautifully.

The only question I had is, the front USB plug, when I put a USB stick in it (using provided short cable adapter) , it says preparing external storage message but when I am in Music or Videos and select USB, nothing comes up. My songs and videos on micro SD card come up ok under SD, but nothing comes up under USB.

any ideas how to fix this ?

thanks
[Android Head-Units] BJHiltbrand:
I haven't messed around too much with the USB port, jump drives, etc., but are your media files at root level on the jump drive? When I've plugged a jump drive in, all my media was displayed fine, but it was all at root level. Not sure if it makes a difference, just a thought.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Ok, Not what I ment at all, and while you were mentioned, I'm sorry if you think it's all about you, it's been ongoing and part of the reason why this is so long and hard to search. Not about you at all.

Just trying to give suggestions on ways to learn and be part of a great community...

Doesn't make me happy or un-happy if you leave...

Unfortunately true... Or read a little and interpret it however they want

Yes, on with it.... Thanks!

That is a great subject for the wiki, and certaintly one of the ones that will get a page or chapter in a page sooner than later and this is exactly the feedback I was looking for.

I did have thoughts on the whole music to SD and there has been more than one suggestion. Some potentially better than others as they would take care of not only music to SD but also to HD and not just music, maps and other things... Some seem to me like they might cause other problems (eg mounting SD card after boot) sym links other apps....

Not having a unit to try those on all I can rely on is feedback, I just haven't really come to a conclusion as to what should go on the wiki.

I suspected that and glad you're confirming it...

I spent a lot of time cross-eyed following mic connector traces to an (on my board unpopulated) resistor pad that then went on to the microphone). First thing on that post the traces go through a resistor. That's got to make a difference I guess.

Soldering at the pads would be my choice too.

[MENTION=1915855]KID52[/MENTION] You sir are a pioneer, and should definitely not let any of it bother you to the point of abbandoning us,

You have took the risk and got this when nobody knew anything about it and look at us now :D

So is [MENTION=546466]Drakey83[/MENTION] with the up and coming WD8801... Looking forward to see how that one is.

I absolutely think the FAQs should get to the wiki, In fact I think it should be it's own subpage and an empty one has been created since the beginning... One thing to consider starting to use in the wiki is the "discussion" tab where we can talk about things we could put on the page, maybe store drafts, ideas and list topics that are not quite ready to publish.

For example in the FAQs page, the "Discussion" tab can contain a bunch of un-answered questions.

Time is becoming a bit more scarece for me lately, as I've been on the road more, but I'll be chomping at it little by little. As I said, I think next will be and MCU explained type thing...
[Android Head-Units] omarko:
thanks, havent tried root drive as there are 200 videos and I have them categorised. Putting all files in one place in the root area would be one big mess.

my sd card has many directories and it works well, I thought it would be the same with the usb stick.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Have you tried a folder "Music" or "music" in the root?
[Android Head-Units] omarko:
no I have not, will try now.

still, why does it NOT matter with the SD card what folders you have and how they are setup then ? Is it some different read method or something ?
[Android Head-Units] csphelps76:
kenwood android based in dash multimedia is way better...even rootable
[Android Head-Units] omarko:
it worked ! thank you ! strange that USB has to be setup this way ! thanks again !
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Ok, that's random...

What unit are you talking about? the Kenwood DNN990HD?

Do you care to expand on the random statement. maybe with a link or reference to a unit/thread with root instructions...

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:o

That tells me that videos will need to be under "Movies" ?? Do you mind verifying?

Also Capital "M"usic and capital "M"ovies? (or is it "Video") And do caps matter?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] BJHiltbrand:
Yep, it is better, just not worth 3 times the price, IMO.
[Android Head-Units] tarzansg:
KID52 - your work on the 1st page is definitely the best, no question about that, those MCU version, system version, WIKI page, FAQ, and the video are indeed very well organized, In fact that the page that lead me to my purchase. I would say this forum is great, many people here is great. The only reason for my posting is to focus on the structure of the tread, as when i reading a series of of posting of a topic i am interested in, and suddenly came another post there are un-related to the post, and the topic got switched to different direction, that the frustration part. No negative intention and i hope this tread will continue as long and its only you and all other passionate contributors that can keep this forum alive and maintain it as long as possible. I am looking forward to people to share about having custom Rom, upgrading version from Jelly beam to Kit KAt and so on.. i come back and at time i see some new user posting about some question i had before and gotten the answer, it will only take me 2 or 3 min to reply and end of the day. the user will be happy, because that the similar situation i had before.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Jeeeeeshhh, now you're cracking me up!!!

That's like going to the Samsung Galaxy S3 forum and saying

"Hey the HTC phone they have is way better and you can install Cyanogen on it!"
[Android Head-Units] tarzansg:
hey quano30, you don't need to take it to seriously, just note that there are many more good and nice people in there to share their postings, comments. I am very much interested in the mic findings that you have. please share some pics...
[Android Head-Units] BJHiltbrand:
Haha. Don't get me wrong, the reason I got this unit was precisely for the fact that I could have the functionality of a name brand unit at a fraction of the price. Plus, I think the community that has come into existence in support of this unit is great. It allows us to iron out the bugs and make the unit the way it should be. :D
[Android Head-Units] tarzansg:
Are you saying that you dont use the external 3.5mm mic jack? So the problem really is the external 3.5mm mic jack? As my external Clarion mic is connected to that and i am having the low volume issue. So i should be looking at connecting the external mic to internal mic? so that would need me to cut away the 3.5mm male connector and connect it to the internal mic?
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
LOL, my point was, at least tell me which HTC phone you're talking about :)

You can connect a female connector through the back plate, you would want to solder to the pads inside the unit after disconnecting the internal mic. Or as some suggest, cut the wires and connect to those so you don't have to solder to tiny wires...

Pictures and more microphone talk in the AN-21 U Hardware specs/hacks
[Android Head-Units] tarzansg:
Thanks sciallo, your response is always so quick ! That means that the external mic female jack that comes out from the harness is really crap ! No wonder at time i find using the internal mic is much louder than the external mic. I know you and most of others here does not have the external mic from the harness so its nothing to loose anyway. Now i might have a good reason to open up the unit to fix the mic, and at the same time i will try to find the 2 USB female back question that you have ask sometime back.
[Android Head-Units] donaldta:
:laugh: You guys just got trolled. This is like the random poster that comes into these threads and says, "What's the point? I can get all of this by mounting a tablet in my car." Don't feed the trolls.

Besides, if you ever seen the video on the Kenwood unit, it is filled with nothing but garbage bloatware. It wouldn't even be worth it at 1/4 the price. I would compare its functionality to the non-Android/WinCE units from China. It may have better audio fidelity but the actual Android functionality is severely lacking. Without being able to install Android Packages from ANY source, I wouldn't even be as bold to claim it is running Android at all. Hell, they could have mimicked the UI without even using the actual OS.
[Android Head-Units] BJHiltbrand:
Tutorials

Hey [MENTION=3081576]sciallo[/MENTION],

I read your frustration post and felt guilty. So, I posted a couple things in the tutorial section of the wiki. Please let me know if they work and if I need to change anything. Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Well, it's quick if I'm here :)

As I said, you can see more in depth pictures and discussion on the subject in the hardware thread, On units without it, there is simply missing components, but I can see at least one resistor in series on each trace of the mic line out to the back. That would make it quieter...

PLEASE if you open it take some pictures as you go, I'd love to see the differences, that would be awesome.

Maybe let's keep the hardware crap in the hardware thread so as to not annoy people that think they're coming to an android software hacking thread for this unit and are never going to care about opening their unit.

Yeah, I just thought the randomness and form was really funny, but also, I did wanna know about this rootable kenwood... 'cause as it stands the Kenwood DNN990HD is far from rootable and locked down into "WYSIWYG and nothing more ever"-land and I wouldn't spend $200 on it....

:good: That's awesome! thanks!
[Android Head-Units] goraax:
Anyone know if it's possible for doubletwist to play songs off of my external usb hard drive? I can access the music through the default music player and ES file explorer, but I wanna use doubletwist as my main music player.

If that's not possible, what's a good alternative player? I'm after a music player that can access the usb hard drive and that has a search function. I tried rocket player so far, it just seems really buggy (search doesn't work, has to search for music files every time it opens).
[Android Head-Units] donaldta:
Have you checked if double-twist allows you to customize the search location of your music? Many third-party apps do, some don't. If it doesn't then you can always use Folder Mount to mount the directory that you keep your music on the USB drive onto /mnt/sdcard/Music directory. This allows most third-party apps to be able to play them.
[Android Head-Units] goraax:
Yea I tried that app, set the source directory as /mnt/usb/mnt1 and target as /mnt/sdcard/music , still doesn't show up in Doubletwist. Also, after setting up that folder pair in the Folder Mount app, I'd assume that there should be links to the source files in /mnt/sdcard/music, when I check there via ES File Explorer, there are no files at all (the music folder is empty normally).
[Android Head-Units] typos1:
For what its worth, I ve been looking at buying an Android headunit for a year, I found this unit & thread before Christmas and read the lot, it was 100+ pages at the time and took hours and hours.

Searching the thread and wikis help, but if youre seriously interested you just gotta take the time to read the whole thread. I think this unit may be "the one" but still not made the decision to buy . . .yet !

By the way, veletron, you can get cheap usb infra red extenders from ebay, they work great, you stick the receiver bit somewhere where it will receive signals well and stick the transmitter bit over the receiver on the device you want to use it on. This should overcome any inadequacies of the AN-21 U's IR receiver, but it wont look very good. Still, you could get round this by removing the built in IR receiver from the faceplate and hiding somewhere with the transmitter from the usb extender stuck on it, or go the whole hog and cut the AN 21's receiver off and join the wires to the usb extender, as people have with a better mic.

Has anyone located the RAM module yet and does anyone know what the max RAM capacity is ?
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
Could you define "crud" :) what did you get rid of? I don't remember there being too much crap...

This was just discussed in tha past 3 pages... the mic connector that goes through the harness goes through some resistors and leaves the crappy built in mic. there has been reports of better sensitivity replacing internal mic with an external female plug (or mic). Picture here

See this post, it applies to many more apps (and especially paid apps that require play store verification)

RAM is 1 GB it's onboard, no module, it's soldered on the android board. You can see pics on the hardware thread the RAM chips are below the ARM cpu (below if you were reading the chip's writing, to the left in the picture)
[Android Head-Units] Drakey83:
If you are still waiting to buy a HU I would keep your eyes open for what people find out about the "WD8801" 2DIN Android 4.04 Car Head Unit with Quad-Core 1.7GHz before you buy anything, the thread for it is here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2618348. [MENTION=5702785]nE0sIghT[/MENTION] just posted an unboxing video and a first impression video of it in action over in that thread, they are both very interesting but you might have to brush up on your Russian.
[Android Head-Units] donaldta:
I believe that you're using the folder mount backwards and would require you to get the pro version to work that way. It would also be counter-productive since it would mount the empty /mnt/sdcard/music directory over the /mnt/usb/mnt1 directory. Instead, the source directory should be /mnt/sdcard/Music (notice the capital M since that's one of the default directories used by Android's media scanner AND unlike Windows the underlying Linux OS that Android runs on is case sensitive) and the destination directory would then be /mnt/usb/mnt1 directory.

I know what you're thinking, it says "Source: Folder to move data from" and "Destination: Folder to move data to". However, that is referring to the process of copying the files if any exists in the Source folder to the Destination folder. The idea is that the app will copy the any existing files from the source directory to the destination BEFORE it uses a bind mount to overlay the destination folder on top of the source.

The only other thing I can think of is to make sure the push-pin icon is green.
[Android Head-Units] typos1:
Yeah, I know about that one, it seems great, with 2 provisos:

a) Its only Android 4.0.4

b) Its got a Samsh*t Exynos processor, theyre known for overheating, I had a phone with the same processor and it kept overheating to the point that the screen was rendered unsusable cos the excess heat caused the screen connector to degrade. Numerous Samsh*t Galaxy devices have had overheating problems, to the extent that the Euro S4 doesnt even use a Samsh*t processor anymore (uses a Qualcom Krait now - why would a company buy in a processor when they make their own ? !). This may or may not prove a problem on this unit.

Plus the way things are going, I see myself never actually buying one cos theres always something better about to come out ! - this seemed the one, not happy with the way the MCU works (I know it needs one, but why cant Android have full control over it ? !), but was still gonna go with it, then more face plates became available, so waited a bit for one I was 100% happy with, now better units are on the horizon. I wasnt happy with 800Mhz processors and 512mb of RAM that seemed to prevail at the end of 2012, then this time last year I became aware of 1Ghz/1Gb units, but didnt have the funds, then I did have the funds but those units disappeared and all I could find were the 800Mhz/512 ones. Then I came across this AN-21U -1GB RAM and 1 Ghz dual core, great I thought. But now I ve got a quad core/2 Gb RAM phone, the specs dont look so good anymore, especially considering that the 1Ghz(single core)/1Gb RAM Android tv box I have is very slow and dim witted and that seemed a great spec just last year (mind you it only scores 2000 on Antutu, so it might just not be a very good board/processor design). On top of that I keep wondering about the tablet option again, something I rejected last year as too complex and time consuming, but looks a bit more attractive now as so many decent Chinese phablets/tablets are available with really good specs (2Gb RAM, Gorillla glass, quad core, even some Mediatek Octa core ones). So this is why part of me thinks I m never actually going to get one !

But, TBH, this is the most likely one I will buy, once I get the funds.

I asked what the max RAM capacity was, NOT "how much RAM does it have ?" !!

I read the hardware thread a few days ago. I ve seen all the specs on the (chip) manufacturer's website, but not seen a mention of the max RAM capacity, either on the website or in that thread. Did I miss it ?

I know its soldered to the board - you rarely get a removable RAM or processors unless its a laptop or pc.

But if it could take more RAM and there was room, or a bigger RAM module of the correct specs was available, I was thinking about the possibilty of an upgrade.
[Android Head-Units] sciallo:
I see your point but I'm hoping the fact it's in a big airy box rather than packed into a phone right next to a battery makes a big difference. I'm curious to know if the unit comes with a fan (I think the ad stated "optional") and would like to know if the CPU is facing up or down (like it is in the AN-21) if up, you could even add a heat-sink if heat is indeed a problem.

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I really don't see an upgrade being possible at all... did you look at the pics? I guess it's hard to see dimensions, but let me assure you, just soldering to pads is hard enough and they look big in the pictures... I don't see swapping chips on that board without damage...

Maybe with hot air system, but that would still be challenging...

...And I honestly am not sure it really needs more ram...