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[G2 General] easyguy:
Pandora doesnt work with ART, I dont think Pandora is "exotic".

The updated version of Pandora works with ART.
[G2 General] Higgins12:
Pandora doesn't work here in Germany anyway :) so like i said - personal opinion. For ME

personally

it doesn't matter.
[G2 General] sanke1:
To whoever mentioned to try AOSP based ROMs, every single 4.4 KitKat based rom out there hangs and self reboots.

The earphone music and speaker sound quality on all those (Except Mahdi) ROMs are extremely bad. Hence they are non usable.

KitKat released in November 2013. Now we are Mid January 2014. I firmly believe LG must have had the access to Final 4.4 source code much earlier than November 2013 because they are manufacturing Nexus 5 devices. Heck they even have 4.4 released for Korean variant. So they actually have no excuse to delay 4.4 release to International D802 variants.

Has someone managed to make flashable D802 ROM based on KitKat released for Korean variant?
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
I dont know which device is yours but i dont have a random reboots, Maybe you use wrong recovery for install roms. And stock LG should come in march.
[G2 General] Higgins12:
I certainly can't agree with you. Have you tried them all? Well I did and so far, some indeed randomly do reboot but some don't. From my experience I'm meanwhile pretty happy with those AOSP Roms.

Sorry for getting slightly off topic

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[G2 General] tannor:
Curious why people want 4.4 so bad?

I have 4.4.2 on nexus 7 and if you ask me performance was even slower not much but just a little. On top of that I saw very little difference with features. I don't think average person will care.

I am more cutious about 5.0 but sure no chance will get that.
[G2 General] robogo1982:
I want it for TRIM :)
[G2 General] jose_k:
LG in Italy has official confirmed the update to Android 4.4.2 at the end of March 2014.

LG in Italy also wrote on Facebook that this will be togheter to all others EU contries so this means that people who have LG G2 D802 will see the offical update to Android 4.4.2 at the end of March 2014.

I think this is a great news especially for developers who will have the possibility to release android 4.4.2 rommore stable and efficient than now ! :D

Link (the language is italian because both of them are the official link to the news): http://www.chimerarevo.com/smartphone/lg-g2-android-4-4-2-ufficiale/

http://www.androidiani.com/disposit...oid-4-4-2-per-g2-entro-fine-marzo-2014-196993
[G2 General] player911:
There are apps in the Play Store that add TRIM to your existing pre-4.3 rom.

Also, do we know that LG hasn't included TRIM support on the stock 4.2.2 rom? I think some manufacturers included it pre-4.3.

I'm more curious for Android 5.0 as well, which I THOUGHT my Galaxy Nexus would see. 4.2.2 vs 4.4.2 is very little difference. 4.3 brought the dual notification/quick settings shade which is nice. 4.4 brought a new launcher (which we won't see nor do I use) and white Status bar icons.

And LG has already updated the G2 to 4.4, its just the carrier stuff, right?

Motorola is the only one really updating their devices. Some of the Developer Editions running stock AOSP were updated directly from Google, but G2 was the FIRST to update their phones to 4.4. Some of the Samsung S4's are getting updated, but none of the carrier versions.

So I think LG is doing great. They seem to be hitting their target dates. I think the Korean G2 was updated to 4.4 around Christmas time (Dec 24th) with other variants following.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
I agree. My N10 runs worse on 4.4 than on 4.2 or 4.3 and I cant see any useful extra features. I see nothing on any of the 4.4 AOSP or CM ROMs for the G2 that would make me want to run them instead of a 4.2.2 LG ROM, in fact all I see is instability, lag and no features.
[G2 General] prfraczek:
what I noticed on 4.4, when the phone rings (from standby) there is no sluggish pop-up window. Also 4.4 is more smooth- similar to iPhone, when you browsing, scrolling etc. Otherwise 4.2 is perfect...
[G2 General] :
blame android for being a tedious task for both pros and companies to update on a mass scale.

Only way to solve it is go to a layered architecture, where a simple os install is possible on top of the driver\ hardware layer. Then no device specific things are needed and any updates are easily achievable across the device universe.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
There is no lag as such, just slow animations in the stock LG ROM, even slower than on the iPhone, which is pretty slow. Its not a performance issue, its a deliberate setting. Reduce animation durations and the 'lag' goes away.
[G2 General] prfraczek:
my animation is 0 :)
[G2 General] mhoss48:
That and LG IS slow in their updates. I only want 4.3/4.4 for open gl 3.0

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
That changes nothing, animations are sometimes hardcoded into launchers and apps.

---------- Post added at 05:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 PM ----------

HTC havent updated the Sense One to 4.4, Samsung havent updated the TW S4 to 4.4, so really LG is only slower than Moto.
[G2 General] prfraczek:
sorry im not getting. U told me: 'Reduce animation durations and the 'lag' goes away' and now telling that animation is coded into the launcher. sorry??
[G2 General] :
yeah but we are at a point where it isnt possible with the millions of variants to keep updated. with current android architecture it is just not possible.

like Scott would say: "I cant do it captain, I dunt have the powerrrrr"

even for pro developers, the amount with burned out symptoms is increasing and ridiculious as their spending significant amount of free time getting the newest update to work. Its ridiculious. In a sense Androids success will be its demise if they dont do something about it.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Could you share a link to d/l V20H for F320K? cause mine says V20F is latest

You may look on the real KitKat F320 V20A footage here:

[YOUTUBE]OxqDpQ0QNHY[/YOUTUBE]

Lags? Anyone?
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Well its a possibility I didnt say it was the reason, it could also be the kernel, and it does work for some animations, but not all. It seems to depend on which software version you are running. I noticed it on 10a, but not on 10b and on and not with a custom kernel. My launcher and scrolling is perfectly smooth and fast on 4.2.2
[G2 General] mhoss48:
The htc IS updated to 4.4

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
No it isnt. The GPE version is, the Sense version is only updated if you have certain versions and even then not all have. My old unit, which is an unlocked international unit is still on 4.3, its not rooted or otherwise modded. I know 2 other people with them and they haven't had the update either.
[G2 General] vPro97:
Where do you see lags? Just saw the whole video and I can tell there are some occasional framedrops from the camera (since you can see the movement of his finger is also "choppy".
[G2 General] bender_007:
So, he suffers from a phenomen also known as the laggy fingers ;)
[G2 General] jbarros26:
I certainly lose something here! Why everyone is freaking out with 4.4 release? I have 4.2.2 from branded carrier, it's pretty smooth, no lags at all battery it's freaking good! So I think it's real necessary an update right now, just because others have? I don't think so, seems to me some guy's here are like virgin wait for the first act!!!!! Christ!

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[G2 General] jmill75:
You may look on the real KitKat F320 V20A footage here:

[YOUTUBE]OxqDpQ0QNHY[/YOUTUBE]

Lags? Anyone?[/QUOTE]

Not sure of the lag you are seeing. Didnt really notice any myself.
[G2 General] robogo1982:
I don't think you understand what it's about. It's the same reason why we all bought our phones - we want the latest and best, we want to have the latest and greatest of the technology. If LG's engineers do their job properly, there is no reason to believe 4.4 won't be at least as good as 4.2.2 is.

No need to become hostile.
[G2 General] tripjnj:
What are the thoughts on Google Wallet tap to pay working once 4.4 rolls out (Verizon)? I just got my G2 last week as an upgrade from my Galaxy Nexus and tap to pay is probably the biggest thing I'm missing from the Nexus. Not that I would go back. The G2 is awesome with battery life that blows my mind. Just a shame that it's 2 years later and I have to give up some functionality that I've been using almost daily.
[G2 General] jbarros26:
I'm sorry if I'm rude, but I don't see the truth need of receive now the 4.4, I prefer wait a while and have something good to have now something full of bugs just that! It's mine opinion, nothing more! Once again i'm truly sorry if I'm rude!

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[G2 General] schale01:
Android 4.4 provides support for Host-based Card Emulation which is present in the new Google Wallet app. In short yes it should work without any issue.
[G2 General] robogo1982:
You are not rude, I agree with you 100%. I too would rather like a delayed, but solid and stable product. :)
[G2 General] thephatness:
Not only that but what if LG gets wiped out by a meteor strike tomorrow? They better build a backup headquarters near the south pole because, what am I, someone who's happy with what I got at any given time? Silly LG. I mean, get it together. How is "Life's Good" if all that's left there is a smoldering crater?
[G2 General] badtz82:
Ask

Does any one can update in front page. What update on kitkat. I hope add qtheater.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
+1 :D
[G2 General] hamad138:
Some korean people mind post a short review on kitkat g2, hoe it performance
[G2 General] Haseeb123:
Get cyanogenmod and enjoy Google wallet
[G2 General] GaYoung28:
G2 owners in Saudi Arabia are getting everyone’s favorite candy and we guess other countries in the region will follow shortly.http://drippler.com/lg/g2#!1212310
[G2 General] bobsie41:
Is this site credible?? It sounds to me like they have just latched onto a misinformed tweet that was made yesterday and made the rest up. ;)
[G2 General] vPro97:
I suppose this is based on the tweet from LGMobileSaudi who said that 4.4 would be rolling out later this month. I have a mate in Saudi Arabia who owns the phone and he hasn't got it yet.
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Sir, i think you would post that this was a hoax 2-3 days from now

LG G2
[G2 General] GalaxySIIII:
guys i haven't updated this .. b4 I need to know 100% if am not gonna like kitkat how do i go back to original LG ROM ?

Thnx
[G2 General] 1Jonathan1:
This can be regarded as NOT credible since they use phonearena as source which uses the LG mobile Saudi page as a reference. The posted message was interpreted wrong (partly due to google translate) and therefore LG tweeted: "We apologize for the previous wrong tweet regarding G2 Kit Kat upgrade schedule,the date was for upgrading the KnockOn feature to Lii series"

So will we get Kitkat this month? probably not. If you do not believe me, everything above stated is based on information from

http://drippler.com/lg/g2#!1212310 which leads to

http://www.gsmarena.com/its_officia...itkat_rollout_starts_this_month-news-7566.php refers to

https://twitter.com/LGMobileSaudi states that information was wrong
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
LGMobileSaudi said later the update will be available in the next two months :D :D

God bless AOSP roms :)
[G2 General] 1Jonathan1:
So they stick to their end march deadline for pushing the kitkat update out unfortunately...
[G2 General] goodmamba:
I just wish it will be 4.4.2 and not 4.4. No matter if March or tomorrow.
[G2 General] DAJORDAN:
Yeah, going straight to current version would be sweet - G2 due that!!
[G2 General] letschky:
In Europe comes the Update end of March,Typical Lg
[G2 General] robin786:
This thread seems pointless since the only most of the G2s have not gotten the KitKat update yet apart from the Korean ones.

I'd rather wait for a stabler ROM and one that brings big changes (5.0 perhaps)
[G2 General] GreenTuxer:
All these custom roms don't have the double tap to turn screen on, do they? What else is lost from the official rom? Thanks
[G2 General] Hazard17:
Cyanogenmod 11 and PA have included knock of & knock on ;).

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[G2 General] GreenTuxer:
Really? That makes me wanna try a custom rom. I had cm11 in my gnex and loved it.
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
I already has this feature in nameless ROM
[G2 General] TaRsY:
SlimKat also has it. ;)

I hope the kitkat kernel source for our variants will solve all the issues we have now in AOSP roms.

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[G2 General] Winudert:
I still don't see many convincing differences apart 4.2.x and 4.4.x, so I will wait for full bug-free KitKat from LG.
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
Only have real diference in custom Roms, touchwiz no have art too.
[G2 General] goran60:
I'm trying to figure out a bunch ABBREVIATIONS but it goes hard. I'd keep for only one and I would ask if anyone knows tell me, what does the abbreviation "SEA" in software versions
[G2 General] vPro97:
South Eastern Asia probably?
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Everything is smoother and faster. RAM management worse...battery drains a bit faster...Camera the same...No ART runtime...transparent notification and nav bar with any launcher. LTE better. Call quality great. Phone way better.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
This is really what bugs me in kitkat! Cell standby and bluetooth just eat up battery. Needless to say that I don't even use bluetooth. And you can't even turn location services off, they (NSA) just monitor your tracking all the time. 20-30% of battery goes to location services, but it disguised as "Cell standby"

Cell standby in G2 on 4.2.2 is like ~5%
[G2 General] vPro97:
How long screen on time?

I see the issue with bluetooth but android system and Android os are no longer the biggest culprits with regards to battery drain. Did you disable knock on?
[G2 General] geonahta:
Can you disable location services via app ops in kitkat?
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Yes, knock on disabled, I don't use it. And yes, android os or android system are not main power hogs any more. Screen on for my F320 with 2610 mah is about 5hrs till 5% battery, thats 2 days usage.

No. I disabled them always in ICS and JB, on KK I cannot. Maybe with root but that's a whole different story. U can even flash a custom ROM with root

People are seeking way http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2551846 already for NLP battery usage problem
[G2 General] hamad138:
Go google settings and deactivate location manager
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
You mean there? It took me to default Android Location settings which I turned long ago.

The "Disable" button of location service is greyed so I can't totally disable it. switched off for now, will look whether it will start or not and if it will help to prolong battery and lessen "Cell standby" demand
[G2 General] hamad138:
Yea click force stop

Maybe u can make a video of kitkat
[G2 General] vPro97:
Thanks for posting it here ;)
[G2 General] xPsycho:
from facebook LG G2

"Android 4.4 KitKat almost set to release for LG G2 in many countries.

Testing Android 4.4 (KitKat) for LG Optimus G and LG G Pro"
[G2 General] hamad138:
Link Pls
[G2 General] xPsycho:
i cant send links for now :D

"To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!"

here is screanshot
[G2 General] hamad138:
Great, lets hope they release a bug free version
[G2 General] Hid3rs:
I doubt that page is official.

They post things like this "So howz ur #LGG2 Experience till date ? Vote at GsmArena and please show us ur ♥" - doesn't seem professional to me.
[G2 General] Sean473:
Yup it's not official.. I wouldn't believe the phonearena article... They're hardly reliable..
[G2 General] Joeful:
Of course a fan site isn't official. Though, they are CREDIBLE.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[G2 General] MazdaGTI:
Why in official 4.4 thread are lot post where developers invite to install custom rom? Lets talk here only about stock official LG kitkat.
[G2 General] haris182:
Can anyone from Korea make a system dump of Android 4.4 Kitkat? It would be a great source to build custom ROMs.
[G2 General] Dri94:
This was done a month ago
[G2 General] rinxas:
In other news, KK is rolling out to the Note 3. And I'm still sitting here, waiting.

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[G2 General] dukat0s:
lol

KK rolout a week or more ago for note3 they allready take the source from samsung too :) LG powaH give us 4.4 not even 4.4.2 in two and a half months from now :)
[G2 General] NODO-GT:
Some early rumors suggested that with 4.4 update they would bring 2160p (4k UHD) video recording.

So is it true in the builds that are available now?
[G2 General] jiteshj:
No 4k recording for us
[G2 General] bender_007:
and older statement

http://www.stuff.tv/android/lg-g2/review

We asked LG about 4K recording (which the Snapdragon 800 CPU supports) and were told that it could be possible with a future firmware upgrade like Android 4.4 KitKat. With so few 4K sets in living rooms though, not to mention the storage space issues such large files will cause, LG doesn't feel that lack of 4K recording at launch is a pressing issue.
[G2 General] ckyy:
For people like me with the 16GB version 4K would be absurd anyway.

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[G2 General] hamad138:
Just a quick note

S3 will get kitkat also at the end of 1st quarter
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Possibly the last update for both the devices *crying*
[G2 General] Hid3rs:
I'd choose 720p@120fps instead of 4k recording. But if LG included (they did not) all these cool features in this update, how could they sell the G3?...

The only reason I'm waiting for this update is that so devs will probably be able to build more stable ROMs.
[G2 General] citytrader:
Till today, I was not convinced about KK custom rom, but this changed, I really recommend to install Mahdi ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2590700

Is the first ROM that solves two big issues for my use:

- Bluetooth: works flawlessly with Skype (with stock not) and the volume buttons are recognized for my Sony SBH20 (very recommended)

- Whatsapp push notifications, they are realtime, amazing, with stock they had a delay of more than 1 minute, shame on you LG with your bad developers.

Scroll is far superior with this ROM with Wheatley governor

I'm recommending this by my own, I have no relationship with any developer.

Here is the bench result:
[G2 General] bender_007:
Yup.. Offtopic since hsn't nothing to do with LG kitkat but look my posts in benchmark :), dr87's rom :)
[G2 General] Kefakum:
Bring more offtopic please!

Skickat från LG G2
[G2 General] votinh:
What is it that you guys looking for in the KK? Any significant feature or improvement over the old or current version?

I've seen so many people eager to get to the new FW then cry out loud and ask to go back to the previous one.

It's not too long ago when we were on ICS, JB butter project was a loud noise and now what? what do we call thing that smoother than butter?

Personally, I think there was big leap from Froyo to GB but honestly from ICS to JB, I don't see much (per my usage).

I have the Kindle Fire, switching from ICS to JB 4 to JB 4.2 to KK 4.4.2, I personally do NOT see any improvement in term of performance, in fact, the latter version drains more battery than the previous one. Anyone uses Sammy SGS2 knows GB gives best battery life.

So, I could care less (will someone will jump on me saying "couldn't care less"????) if this one get KK tomorrow or next year.
[G2 General] Dri94:
It'll make for better custom roms. I never use stock but that's my main reason for wanting upgrades
[G2 General] goran60:
My only hope for 4.4 is to fix BUG on the network. Otherwise we ALL IN 4.2.2 like. I do not want changed either INTERFACE or anything. It's like made ​​for me. I hope it will find a solution for the bug on Network.

MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS SOLUTION?
[G2 General] hamad138:
1) TRIM for keeping ur device fast without needed to reboot

2)Transparency for nova and other launchers

3)Immersive Mode

4)Less Ram usage, my ram is easily full

5)More Smoothness, the LG g2 lags sometime,
[G2 General] mannequin:
umm i don't experience any issues / can reproduce all the features stated above running rooted stock.
[G2 General] citytrader:
In my experience with custom KK, I will answer you from my point of view

1) I had stock and have the device ever with the same speed, so dont know how TRIM do the difference here.

2) k

3) k, need the app to support that

4) I'm not agree, in custom KK compared with stock is more and less the same, in the mean 800-900MB

5) I did not experience lag in my D802SEA, the difference is that custom KK is much smoother.

For the other side, I dont expect much from LG, they have develocrapers that do pure crap, only that.

From my point of view, I have this huge difference for my use:

1) No bug under bluetooth, try to use Skype with bluetooth or some voip without problems on stock, you will experience big headaches.

2) Real time push notifications, with stock 4.2.2 I experienced delays of more than 1 minute

3) Huge increment in WIFI transfer, for example with stock I got not more than 9Mbytes/sec in a file transfer, with custom KK I'm getting more than 25MBytes/s (433mbps) very impressive, practically I dont need to connect the cable anymore.

The downside, sometimes with custom rom I can not connect with wifi, I have to reboot the phone, but I prefer this bug than the others.
[G2 General] therethere:
i'm not sure if i'm right, but i have a pebble and the G2. And i need 4.3+ android on G2 to dismiss notifications on G2 via pebble.

So that's the main reason why i want the update fast.

And the pedometer, i know kikat supports pedometer via hardware (without gps), hope LG do that right.
[G2 General] dondavis007:
Just bought a nexus 5 and boy, it's running in cirkels around my g2 underclocked to 1,5. I want this on my G2. I want an updated camera, no shutterlag and a focus that's quick. The 4.4.2 has fixed those things in Nexus so my hope is that LG does the same the next update.

Most of all I want the 4.4 from LG because it will probably be the first and last update the phone ever gets...

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[G2 General] ChrisM75:
4.4.2 wont fix anything in the G2, LGs own improvements might. 4.4.2 is the entire software the Nexus has, the G2 runs the base OS with LG mods, it is those that will improve things like the camera.
[G2 General] peeps67:
VirginRom - Wish we could get it for the G2

On my S4 I ran the VirginRom 4.4 and it was by far the most stable rom out there. No issue or FC's. I wish he would make this rom for the G2.:D
[G2 General] maniekok1:
This is my first and last LG phone. HTC Samsung to update. LG G2 is extra but czeba care about the customer, which will give the G3 and G2 4.4.2 on ?. I hope that someone from LG reads this, I'm not alone with this position regarding the approach to the customer.

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[G2 General] citytrader:
I dont understand what you have written...
[G2 General] kvaka22:
he himself does not understand what he wanted to say ,troll
[G2 General] darkrival:
I think he's saying that HTC and Samsung phones are up to date with kitkat but G2 is taking extra time. They don't care about their customers and will give G3 the updated kitkat 4.4.2 over G2....

I can understand the need for LG to keep churning out these phones to compete with HTC and Samsung but they should also compete with them when it comes to software upgrades. Otherwise no one is buying their phones in the future.
[G2 General] Kreuger:
Am I the only one who doesn't care to have Kit Kat? There's absolutely nothing worth having in it, IMO. It's like "I gotta have it cause it's the newest!"
[G2 General] Fir3blade:
+1

We are at least 2 ;)

Via LG G2
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
Install asop ROM and be happy
[G2 General] dondavis007:
They hopefully will update,the question is when. We're talking bout LG people, the have track record of not delivering to maintain: ) Hopefully I'm wrong but I also got burned of LG before.

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