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[G2 General] vPro97:
G2 mini will be unveiled at MWC but the G Pro 2 will be unveiled tomorrow. As far as I heard, Google is starting to put pressure on OEMs to release their newest devices with the latest version of android!
[G2 General] Robisgnarly:
the fact that this phone has been out this long, and doesn't have Kit Kat, is pretty disappointing. I figured being their flagship, plus with LG having done the N5 this should have seen the Kat already.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Well they have it in Korea If that counts for anything
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Its ATT Verizon T-Mobile etc lagging on 4.4.2...not LG. That's why I chose the F320L for LTE-A and external SD. Plus LG updates this phone first. I've had kitkat for almost 2 months.
[G2 General] robin786:
Good then, they might reveal the Kit Kat update dates + eligible models at MWC. For sure, G2 will get an update. Wooho!

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] russells.android:
any feedback about the battery life? is it worth not waiting for the official rom for this? tia.
[G2 General] djsat03:
16h 55m/3hr on screen time. This one was on build 2/5 with paek kernel v.5.2
[G2 General] masteril:
wow bad...i have full day and 6 hr screen on stock 4.2.2.
[G2 General] Br1ce:
How do this have anything to do with the official KK release for G2 ? You just can't compare stock battery life with AOSP battery life, what's more PA is still on BETA stage so this is a non-sense.
[G2 General] skr_xd:
Just got another minor apps update on my 32gb 802 AME version. Size was around 25mb.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Do you notice anything different?
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Only very few other phones, most of which have been out even longer, have KK. As for the whole N5 argument, its bogus. LG have very little to do with the software on the N5. They provide essential drivers to Google, for their hardware, who do everything else themselves. All LG do is load it onto the phone when its manufactured. They have NOTHING to do with KK, and dont really have any 'special access' to it.
[G2 General] skr_xd:
Nothing. No changelog on update page. Just mentioned application update. No visual changes noticed.
[G2 General] nic85:
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[G2 General] stevessvt:
The Sprint Galaxy S4 gets KK today. If LG wants to compete with Samsung they need to better their upgrade timeline (Which itself, Samusng, isnt known for having timely updates in the first place)
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
The S4 is FAR older than the G2 and it is just another S4, it doesnt count as a 'new' device getting KK.

This notion that Samsung isnt very fast at updates is false, Carriers arent very fast, but when I had my unbranded SIM free S2 and S3 I got updates pretty quickly.

I really wish people would stop crying about a few week and an update that will actually change very little. Ive said it about a dozen times on here, KK changes VERY little, pretty much any change you notice will be because of LGs changes to its apps, not because of KK.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
[YOUTUBE]EJcLpdB70WQ[/YOUTUBE]

Go buy SGS4
[G2 General] stevessvt:
I fail to see the age of the phone has anything to do with anything. Google didnt drop KK to Samsung earlier because the S4 is older.....they all got it at the same time. And by that logic the Optimus G should have KK by now.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
I don't quite get you're reasoning, 'The S4 is FAR older than the G2' what's that supposed to prove with regards to updates. Also, LG couldn't be bothered to implement 4.3 which, for a premium device, is IMO, a disgrace. That being said, surely, the only way to redeem themselves from this laziness would be to be first in line with the 4.4 update. (Please don't tell me the Korean version has it).

Whenever our kitkat finally arrives, it will mean that it has taken LG 6+ months to give there flagship device ONE android upgrade.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Nonono lg gets the software 6 months before the actual release, it is an agreement launched since jelly bean
[G2 General] ericsmissingteeth:
wow someone stole my 4.4 video and re-posted it and mislabeled it as 4.4.2
[G2 General] votinh:
Are they getting KK today? Or WILL they be getting it today?

I haven't seen any site indicate that Sprint owners are OFFICIALLY getting KK, maybe too early? Let's wait until the end of the day and see.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
I didnt originally raise the issue of device age, its was just my response.

You still seem to be missing my point, Android base OS updates at this present time in Android development are trivial to a devices like the G2, or the S4 or HTC One for that matter. The base OS adds very little, if anything to the experience. As I said KK will mean very little to us because the LG additions are where the value is, 4.3 had little meaning as well, it would have added very little.

What exactly do you expect KK to bring? More stability? Didnt work for nexus devices, quite the reverse actually. More speed? Didnt work for the N10. More features? What features would that be??

LG have updated the G2, mine shipped with 10a and the newest version for it is 10f. I dont really care about the OS version, its not important.

If you are all expecting big changes with the KK update you are all in for a big disappointment.
[G2 General] marsisabar:
I moved on to Mahdi ROM released on 2/11 with dr87 kernel. I'm getting about 28 hours with 4 hour screen time. I have GPS on, WiFi, LTE, Sync, High Brightness, played games. I was getting 24 hours on stock. LGs bloatware and their own framework do use up battery in the background.

This ROM is running much smoother and more stable than the PA beta5 release a few days ago.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
Well I do care about the operating system. I choose to have android and I choose to have a flagship device. This is my first LG device most of my others being HTC with a very brief flirtation with a Samsung :o

In choosing android and in choosing to aquire a flagship device I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that all oem's would strive to keep the os up to date. This has definitely been the case recently with other companies but not, it would seem, with LG. I think that the G2 is a beautiful device but it does not seem to have the market share that such a device should merit. Why? Somebody tell me. I believe I know why though.

As for the benefits of having the latest android version, as I have said, I have chosen android and wish to be involved in all stages of it's evolution good or bad. I do root but at the moment, I prefare to stay stock as I utilise skygo which will not work with root.

My main gripe with the G2 is the fact that it has a beautiful 5.2 inch screen which unfortunately cannot be utilised to it's full across the board due to the relatively large on screen buttons. Google are endeavouring to address this but if LG has decided not to follow google's lead then it would perhaps be a good idea on their part to address this themselves with some fairly basic coding.

Android 4.3 and 4.4 may not on the face of it appear to bring much to the table but, under the hood this is not the case. I for one, want these changes and would expect LG to support this device if they have any interest in me supporting them as a company. I suspect I'm not alone with this reasoning judging by the sales figures.

.....and no, I don't wish to have a nexus.
[G2 General] monkboy24:
The kit Kat update will come when it's ready too. Just sit back and wait or flash a custom Rom. Nothing said in this thread is going to make the update come faster lol
[G2 General] abdel12345:
No one thinks it'll make it come faster (I think). We're just discussing which is the whole point of it and pass on news we see about it.
[G2 General] babygetoboy:
Where can someone find houstonns pa build ?
[G2 General] LenAsh:
Unbelievable question...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
[G2 General] votinh:
and still, majority of posts here are talking about custom ROMs or off-topic or whining about Sammy, HTC, Sony update quicker than LG.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Lol and what is this you just posted? Whining about off topic? :p (I know there's lots of off topic but just saying not much we can do)

It's gonna happen the best thing is to ignore it and move on because as people can see here no matter how many tones it's said people usually don't read they just post without,looking so it won't make a difference

Now i saw that Sprint has released kitkat for st. Hopefully g2 follows soon and maybe the order the manufacturers release in can foreshadow the order of the g2 release. I'm really hoping verizon doesn't take too long. After my terrible verizon experience with the xperia play (they released an update that broke sync and never fixed if) I hope that something like that won't happen with the g2
[G2 General] chaki-:
I don't think we will see some tremendous change in KK. I hope that they will give us code knock on though....or another LG specific goodies :)
[G2 General] votinh:
Which Sprint gets KK? You meant SGS4?

I was asking "are they getting or will they be getting?" It's just posts claiming they will release the source on 2/13, nothing official.

I don't think Sprint SGS4 owners get any update from Sprint yet. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I saw on Google plus that Sprint has begun to air out the s4 update. A cotton sources posted this including android authority.
[G2 General] IamPro:
Any chance of someone porting the Korean 4.4.2 Stock build to other G2s?
[G2 General] prfraczek:
Good, that S5 is coming with kitkat. Good bye LG :)
[G2 General] abdel12345:
The g pro 2 is coming with kitkat too. But that might be too big. Is way too big for my liking. Also google is pushing oems to have newest android on newer phones on release so other new phones should have it too.
[G2 General] Foscot:
To be fair, a spokesman from LG Denmark has already said that they will "of course" be bringing 4.4 to G2.
[G2 General] noppoer2:
But the big question is when will 4.4 come?
[G2 General] Xenovias:
So, you should make new petition

This petition is useless because G Series 100% get kitkat and maybe L series II too, the problem is when?.

Make new petition to force LG release kitkat at least in january
[G2 General] Foscot:
He said sometime early next year. See here for the Google Translated version of the Danish article. In the video he doesn't say anything about late this year, so I wouldn't be holding my breath all December :laugh:
[G2 General] :
They can keep their kitkat update. 4.4 is the actual end of flash. I'll stick with 4.2.2 and enjoy my streaming. ;)

Sent from my cellular telephone
[G2 General] Foscot:
Flash hasn't officially worked on Android since 4.1
[G2 General] :
I realize it was officially unsupported when JB came out..... But....

It works up to 4.3...maybe with a trick or two, but it works. Tho for me, it's only worked stable on 4.2.2. With dolphin. That's my experience anyway. ;)

Sent from my cellular telephone
[G2 General] Foscot:
It should still work with Dolphin, as far as I've heard
[G2 General] :
I can't say for sure... Haven't used it, but word on the street is 4.4 has killed flash. Only something like Puffin works... Which doesn't need a flash apk. But I've tried Puffin, and personally find it horrible. Lol

Sent from my cellular telephone
[G2 General] butthurtlocker:
I've been using the recently released PA 4 for the G2 and it's cool that it's running stock Kit kat and all but I honestly didnt notice much of a difference at all in speed or smoothness compared to LG Stock Rom , android 4.2.2. Plus you get all those "useful" features haha.
[G2 General] goran60:
I read what people write, and I think very few people understand the point. I would not be too smart right but if someone wants 4.4 then this can easily be achieved with some of the Kustom ROMs and get all the benefits of a Kit Kat. but I think there needs to talk about formal update from manufacturers who only really safe and recovering our devices.

The question now is when will it happen?
[G2 General] sublimejosh2000:
I remember the days when I had a Atrix and couldn't barley get a CM7 port with a working camera... I mean actually taking ANY picture at ALL. Couldn't do much of anything useful when it dropped in unofficial nightlies. Your Kit Kat PA4 port is honestly the beat Alpha I have ever tried. I would not even call the thing Alpha by the old Atrix standards... You are communicating fine as far as I'm concerned. When people have useful logs or ideas, you are responsive even when you could easily be busy doing things... Like... Well, life!! I got a donation coming your way. Anyone who has anything crass to say about you is living in a dream world where XDA is a land of entitlement... Thank you for doing what you are doing. *RANT OVER*
[G2 General] Higgins12:
LG Germany on Twitter said 4.4 will be available at the End of first Quarter 2014 :confused:

https://twitter.com/LGBlog/status/405003841872998400

Typical LG update cycle .... laaaaateeeeee
[G2 General] realeze:
Late compared to which manufacturer?
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Samsung and HTC

LG G2
[G2 General] SomethingWild88:
End of first quarter 2014? Are we talking fiscal or calendar? I've never rooted, only Jailbroke, but I'm seriously considering it if it's going to take this long for 4.4. That's completely atrocious.
[G2 General] realeze:
GPE phones? A better marker would be Note 3 or HTC One Max...
[G2 General] eggman89:
S4 and Note 3 are getting Kitkat in Jan.

So it HTC one.

You want links?

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_to_get_kitkat_in_january-news-7237.php

http://bgr.com/2013/11/20/htc-one-kitkat-january-release/

Both of them are have released way earlier than LG G2.

And S4 is already on 4.3, and we are in 4.2.2 still.

What other phone is getting Kitkat at the end of 2014 Q1? 1 and a half month old S3.

TBH, for sure G2 Kitkat would come a couple of months after the promised date (if you can call that a promise anyway) .
[G2 General] lch920619x:
Guys just have a look at this and stop moaning about some nonsense rumor.

Korean version internal beta is out for download on Chinese forum now. International OTA won't be far.
[G2 General] jiteshj:
That's what i meant and not GPe

LG G2

---------- Post added at 02:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------

1.5 years not months LOL. Even Moto G getting it :(

LG G2
[G2 General] SQ9KFX:
Everybody waiting impatiently for Kit Kat :)

ROM in nexus 5 and CM is boring.
[G2 General] autom8r:
NO NO no no no, you're absolutely wrong. Free RAM is just that, free. It's not doing ANYTHING AT ALL, free RAM isn't what's affecting your phone's performance.

You state that when you have tons of free RAM the phone flies. Well, I think this is highly subjective, and you're also missing the reason WHY DOES YOUR PHONE HAVE TONS OF FREE RAM? The answer is because you're running less programs, and this in turn is what is speeding up your phone, not the free RAM. Free RAM isn't doing anything. It's highly unlikely that the apps you're running need more RAM than the system is providing.
[G2 General] kolembo:
I no longer believe this. My 'subjective experience' over many, many phones, running many, many scenarios is that without free RAM any phone sucks.

Once I got this, my 'subjective experience' has been nothing but crisp, fluid androiding.

That's the one I pick.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I feel the same but the other guy does have a point as well. Your phone is smooth because there is extra ram so it can use as much as it needs while phones with less ram need to close apps to open others so the phone starts to lag or slow. So the extra ram is good imo though I'm not sure if this is correct it's what I understood. Either way I like to think more ram=better since you can open more apps and multi task more before system starts closing some to free space.
[G2 General] autom8r:
Wait, I think you missed my point.

Free RAM is a consequence of having less apps open. The only way to free RAM is to have less programs/apps open (or of course open more efficient versions of the programs/apps running, is that really available though?). So, the speed you're feeling isn't from the RAM, it's because there's less apps open.

Free RAM is the cause of closing apps, which in turn speeds up your phone. These apps could be running background services, and this uses CPU time, you can only process so much each time the CPU ticks and this means other apps have to get in line, this is the slowness you feel. Now I know most things on the UI thread should be quite quick, as all non-visible apps should only be running on background threads, however, taken at a high level, more apps = more resources both CPU and memory and more potentials for the CPU to be the bottleneck of the entire operation.

Android treats memory much more strictly than CPU operations. If an app is encroaching on the maximum memory, depending on it's perceived importance, it will be nuked from memory in a heartbeat if the OS so desires. The CPU however is much more liberal, the CPU will allow queues to form and will deal with them in an orderly fashion. Memory is unforgiving, you never know if your app is going to be terminated and as such you must always be prepared for your app to reload entirely.

Closed Apps > Increase Free RAM > Phone feels faster. Free RAM is not the cause, it's the effect. Get my point?
[G2 General] kolembo:
Ah.

On every Android phone I've used, the more free RAM indicated, the slicker my experience has been. The closer to the max free RAM indicated, the stickier the experience gets.

Android software design notwithstanding, the two variables that have changed are the processor speed and the amount of RAM provided, regardless of the number of Apps running on the machine.

I'm an old man. Every Android I use, every ROM I flash ends up with exactly the same number of Apps which are used, over a period of time, in exactly the same way.

Always, the more free RAM I am able to count on, the smoother my experience. Simple. Like that.

All the discussions I've had on this will explain to me the various relational controls Android 'manages' between CPU/RAM/AppsRunning-Background-Closed-Restarted, and now Dalvik/ART.

Give me a smooth Android experience no matter what I'm doing with my device and I'm happy.

These days I make sure from the outset, that I have a speedy Processor and bags of RAM to play with.

I suddenly find that I'm not having to look up posts on lag. Which works for me.

All else remains in my humble experience, a continued mismatch in Conversation between those who write the software, those who design the hardware and the experience delivered to the user.

Its not the users use of the machine that matters. Its whether the machine can accomodate and provide.

I don't mean to replicate that discussion here, like I said, I've seen it since Cupcake so I'll stop here.

Thanks for the explanations - this is my opinion.
[G2 General] 0331:
I have a Verizon Samsung S3. we had the same the thread about waiting forever and a day on OTA's. It was Verizon who was always really late on OTA's, not the manufacturer.

I will be getting my LG G2 from vzw tomorrow. I wanted to dump Verizon but the service is unmatched in my area. What version of Android is the G2 on now? I'm not all that impressed with 4.3 on the S3, and they skipped right over 4.2
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
More free RAM just means less is actually running, its the number of running apps and the CPU cycles they take up that really governs the speed of your phone. If the G2 had the same running apps but 10GB of RAM it wouldn't really be much faster than it is with 2GB.

The reason phones like the Note 3 have 3GB is that they have so many background services and apps running that they need more, otherwise user apps would force the closure of system apps.

Its desirable to have more free RAM because it means less apps are running and the CPU is doing less. However the apps you run most are best left running so that they open faster, so blanket clearing of RAM isnt such a good idea, unless your phone is starting to lag.
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
"Less ram or more ram" you are off topic guys...stay on topic please...thank you.
[G2 General] BackDaws:
Yawn
[G2 General] OFFdaHOOK:
Hi community, Im from argentina and I have a lg G2 d806, witch is the same as the d802 for what i know, the problem is that i can get data working on PA 4.0 13/2, I´ll like if someone can tell me whats going on because on OmniROM my data works just fine. Thank you!
[G2 General] votinh:
Advice one: Go into that specific ROM and ask. They probably provide more correct answers.

Advice two: This thread is for OFFICIAL KK, nothing to do with custom ROM.

You ask in the right forum, you get much higher chance to get the answer.
[G2 General] illumi241:
[MENTION=4162570]votinh[/MENTION] This thread is not for LG Official Kitkat, it is the official Kitkat thread for all speculations to Kitkat. This includes custom ROMs not only the LG Stock ROM.

Just read the first post, there is nothing specific concerning the LG ROM.

But now back to topic. ;)

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[G2 General] abdel12345:
So once official kitkat comes out most roms will become more stable? I just want kitkat for that because despite what people say I've seen since issues with custom kitkat roms so I'm staying stock until official comes. I'd rather not have random reboots no matter how little it happens or random sod's. The roms are great and I know they're free but I hope they can be polished to become better once official kitkat is available.

Also will The g2 get boot loader unlock at all? I feel like it'd make things easier
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Actually it's kind of implied that it should only concern the official release.
[G2 General] Tinchoska:
Hoping kk came on March... I want it so much

Enviado desde mi LG-D806 mediante Tapatalk
[G2 General] muppetmaster916:
Actually it's been stated multiple times that the "official" in the title is referring to the fact that this is the correct and official place to talk about kit Kat, not that it's only for discussing the official build, however I feel that it should be mainly about the official build
[G2 General] votinh:
No argument.

If custom ROMs and off-topic talks allowed and not clean up by Mod, then I guess it is for everything then :)

Happy discussion.
[G2 General] superbonto:
and now we're officially straying. the free ram talk and the officiality of official of the thread title.

i just wish that before the g2 mini release, the international big g2 will have their official 4.4 (hopefully 4.4.2) rom.
[G2 General] motters.scott:
Lg.UK still not budging on their q1 prediction for KitKat. They replied to my tweet directly too them with the same drab info they have given everyone else!! Bored of it now
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Yes hopefully. Once they move focus to newer devices then they'll forget about the g2. I feel like now after kitkat it's going to be the first and last update the g2 gets officially:(

I was hoping for at least kitkat and one more but now I'll just be happy with kitkat. (And no I don't want to buy a nexus. I had a nexus 5 before getting The g2 and I like the g2 much more just because of the awesome battery)
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
Think it depends on how big next update is, if its as small change as 4.3 I think that wont come. But if its something big like 5.0 with lots of changes etc I think it would come right away (after G3).
[G2 General] kapybarus:
I have knew what to expect from LG when i bought phone. It was at least KK update. If it will come in two months I am ok with it. If LG piss me I ll be ok with it too, but next time I will buy phone from other company.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Im happy, just want smoother performance
[G2 General] Trina9:
This phone runs smoother then my GS3 on 4.3!