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[Nexus 5 General] SamReciter:
Oh i will - the N5 still needs some improvements for camera and battery life. And i also don't wanna miss full control in ES file explorer.
[Nexus 5 General] pr4wn3r:
Rooted mine for stuff like titanium backup! its still stock. But i think i'll flash CM 11 sometime not too very soon =)
[Nexus 5 General] noobdeagle:
Rooted for adaway, as long as the boot image and recovery is stock OTA updates still work. i see no reason not to unlock bootloaders as soon as you receive your devices to avoid data loss later.
[Nexus 5 General] therobotking:
I root because its the only way to install adfree from the f-droid repo. It also allows me to use more features in apps like betterbatterystats and I can flash kernels easily using Franco's app.
[Nexus 5 General] Dragooon123:
I've rooted mostly for helium, otherwise its stock
[Nexus 5 General] Guzanni:
Yeah, I feel the same thing. I'm waiting till all things become a bit more stable for kitkat, but as OP says, the N5 feels pretty complete out of the box. Yet, I miss some things that I used on my rooted N4, which was stock with some Xposed modules.
[Nexus 5 General] SprigganMaster:
I'm not root right now but there are 2 features I'm missing :

1- better DPI (everything is so huge!)

2- Block stupid pub by changing hosts file

I will probably root it later just for these 2...
[Nexus 5 General] gee2012:
Rooting a Nexus is almost manadatory, it is a developer phone by nature ;)
[Nexus 5 General] es0tericcha0s:
...nevermind.
[Nexus 5 General] PhilipTD:
For some people, messing around with phones is a hobby.
[Nexus 5 General] iamelton:
rooting is the first thing i try to do when i get a new mobile phone..

there should not be the need to root..

having root access should be a built-in feature in android.. when i buy a mobile phone, i do not just want to be a "user" of it.. i want to be the "owner"..
[Nexus 5 General] es0tericcha0s:
It seems like some of you are a little confused by what constitutes condescension. Literally nothing I said was either A) unsubstantiated (you CAN improve all of those - I didn't say it happened magically) nor B) condescending, unlike the comments about "Oh, I'm too busy to bother with all that because I'm in adult now" attitude. The irony is strong there. I have a wife, own a business, have a couple pets, etc etc. I rely on my phone for business, as it is my business. You realize that all the issues you mentioned happen on stock roms too? Can there be more issues with custom stuff? Sure. But no software is ever perfect, I don't care who makes it. It's not that the more things you add to android things WILL go wrong, as that is just ridiculous and a complete fallacy. But does the POTENTIAL for things to go wrong increase the more you add things to it. Sure. Anyway, pretend I'm condescending if that's what makes you happy, but it does not fit here, and my track record of being a helpful and friendly XDA member should speak to that.
[Nexus 5 General] raulg15:
I haven't rooted my nexus 5 and I dont plan on it.

I just came from a galaxy s4 and the whole rooting and flashing roms became annoying. I was becoming an addict to flashing. I wanted to try every single rom. Staying up late switching roms and loading all my stuff back onto it. But I ended up going back to stock galaxy s4 because I was switching it since I had an upgrade with the jump program on T mobile.

On the nexus 5 there is no need to flash roms to me. I can do everything I want with Nova launcher and power toggles.

I only see rooting and flashing roms useful for phones like the Galaxy S4 if you want to get rid of touchwiz and get on stock android. But phones like the moto x and nexus 5 are basically stock so really no need to flash. But thats just my preference.
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
No, you very much don't understand condescension, nor do you understand irony (or even what unsubstantiated), because you're engaging in both. I don't care how helpful you've been before, stop talking down to people. It makes for a ****ty community. Your analogy can't be proved because it doesn't make any applicable sense, hence your claims that ignorance is bliss and "corvette....gas pedal" are unsubstantiated.

I didn't say the stock ROM was perfect. I said it provides 100% stability. I don't need to get into a ****-measuring contest with you, because I know all it would take is 15-20 minutes with any ROM you show me and I can find something that is wrong with it that is not wrong with the stock ROM. Again, that doesn't mean that I'm hating on the developers. I feel the need to italicize this since you did not read my last post correctly, Ergo, the stock ROM provides stability and consistency which custom ROMs usually do no.

Allow me to forcefully spoon-feed it down your throat; YOUR decision to customize the hell out of your ROM does not place your phone experience above anyone else's. By saying ignorance is bliss, by saying you'll eventually get bored, you're basically telling us "my way is right, clearly you're too stupid or scared or uneducated to utilize my way".

There is a huge difference in what I am saying and what you are saying. I am not talking down to anyone, I even told you I miss doing exactly what you do (again, something you missed from my post). The truth is that there will be a point where you will stop tinkering with your phone. That's not condescension, that's fact. It happens to everyone on XDA, it just hits some of us sooner than others. It may take years for you, it may take months, but eventually, you'll settle down with your phone. I was sharing that experience because I've gone through it as have many people here.

The fact that you took that statement as a personal attack only further goes to show that in addition to being condescending, you're now being incredibly insecure. I even clearly said "not that I mean to imply you are not an adult", and I also clearly said "I'm not mocking you". But it's easier to ignore that and continue to stand on your pedestal, I suppose.

I'm not attacking you as an XDA member. I took issue with your post due to questionable wording that made it seem like people who don't use their phones the way you do are letting it go to waste. That sort of mentality is irritating in the Android community. No one is wasting anything, nor is anyone getting "less of their phone" by not flashing it the way you do.

If you can't process that, and you still want to be as defensive as possible, that is your prerogative. But as long as you continue to insinuate things like the idea that running a stock ROM is like driving a Corvette and never pushing the gas all the way down, I will continue to provide counter points as to why that is flat-out untrue.

Actually, forget it, I've spent way too much time trying to explain it. I'll take my leave of this thread.
[Nexus 5 General] es0tericcha0s:
I've never talked down to anyone here, and have not seen any proof to the contrary. My point was to let the person I was responding to that rooting is not all doom and gloom. You say my analogy doesn't make sense. I disagree. I honestly don't care for your reasons as to why you think that is flat out untrue. The phone has potential to improve in almost every respect. Period. Whether you have the time, the patience, knowledge, or even care enough to try and improve it, is up to you. Sometimes when you fix or improve one thing, it can break another. But sometimes it just makes everything better. "Basically you're telling us...blah blah blah" No, I was not basically saying that. You assumed that because you don't like "that attitude" Sorry to hear that, but that's not what happened here. I'm pretty sure I know what I meant more than you do.

Also, the idea that the stock rom is 100% stable is laughable. 2 seconds of browsing ANY phone forum will quickly tell you otherwise. Not saying a custom one will be better, but that's software for you. That's just how it goes.

But anyway, this has gotten off topic and I tire of you trying to tell me what I am thinking. Let's move on.
[Nexus 5 General] Ober/Hydra:
I agree... there's no need to make a fuss. Let's move on.
[Nexus 5 General] stuart0001:
I was considering keeping unroofed but then I realised there's one functionality I could not live without. That is Cerberus anti theft. Without root there's no way to have such functionality that will survive a factory reset and allow as extensive tracking etc.
[Nexus 5 General] mjs2011:
I had to unroot and relock due to having to use my phone for work now. Should be interesting.

I've always been a flashwhore. I still really like this phone but when the time comes for a new phone I'll know longer base my decision on which is the easiest to root and flash roms. At the end of this year I'll be in the market for something new and I'll explore all options, even the iPhone 6 now that I will no longer be able to root.
[Nexus 5 General] RobLudo:
Nexus 5 is my first Nexus.

When i bought it i thought to avoid customization for a while, because having a brand new phone would have been enough.

Besides the fact i thought that in case of modding the only way was a custom rom, and these rome are initially experimentally and not so stable.

Then i discovered the Xposed Framework and Franco Kernel... needless to say, I did not wait another day to do it!
[Nexus 5 General] worldwidepmp:
My first Nexus as well. I rooted it after 2 weeks and tried one custom ROM before going back to stock. For the first I can completely say I'm content with stock.
[Nexus 5 General] ofteno:
I did it on day 1
[Nexus 5 General] tien113:
I rooted N5 next day after I received it. Cos a lot of apps need root.
[Nexus 5 General] Teenight:
No root,no android:P
[Nexus 5 General] chubby65:
It's even better rooted :D

Within an hour getting it home rooted bootloader unlock custom recovery kernel rom patches and couldn't be happier
[Nexus 5 General] mjs2011:
I had to unroot about a week ago because I now use my phone for work. I gotta say, I don't really miss it all that much.
[Nexus 5 General] farsight73:
I had downloaded all the necessary rooting files and roms, and ready in my PC even before I go out to buy the Nexus 5.

It's my first Nexus and I unlocked it after got the phone first fully charged at home. Never look back since then..
[Nexus 5 General] ummduh:
Yup. Have an app that requires root. And I've become almost dependent on certain features of custom roms that using stock Android seems almost barbaric.
[Nexus 5 General] FunDionysus:
Please do not discourage your pig from rooting. But if it becomes an addiction its time to schedule an intervention.
[Nexus 5 General] x111:
Do you still unlock/root your nexus?

I even do not understand why Google did not make root available, unlock bootloader, and normal recovery from the box.

Why I should every time do it by myself.

p.s. Google, yours default launcher is sucks. Also gmail, mail, hangouts, google+, and sunc apps are sucks too, every time need to delete it.
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
It's because it's a security issue. Your phone is open to the world by allowing root and unlocking the bootloader. Not everyone in the general masses wants to , knows, needs, or cares about root. Xda members are the minority.
[Nexus 5 General] xTKWizard:
RE: Do you still unlock/root your nexus

I would root my nexus, however I just want info if you can turn it off and hide it afterwards temporarily because one of the apps I use frequently refuses to open with it on.
[Nexus 5 General] whitedragonz83:
If you are rooted and rooted you can lock/unlock via an app and maintain root. There might be issues between flashing new ROMS/Kernels/OTA, but you can always unlock prior to the flash.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker
[Nexus 5 General] xTKWizard:
Hi, this is not what I meant.

What I mean is, can I temporarily unroot my phone to be able to open the app: eg. Open SuperSU and turn it off.

That is what I currently do on my SGS2 to be able to open the application.

If you were wondering about the app, its Love Live School Idol Festival (ラブライブ スクールアイドルフェスティバル)
[Nexus 5 General] Liskrig:
I feel the same way! I tried rooting last night, remembered all the ADB commands from memory, then flashed a couple different ROMs, and promptly restored my backup. There is just so much more attention to detail in the Nexus 5 this time, that I don't feel other ROMs can offer the same. No offense to the developers, but stock 4.4.2 is just better for my day-to-day needs.
[Nexus 5 General] jelle2503:
Used to flash each day like a junkie. Now refrain to rooted stock rom with Xposed framework. Xposed is such a blessing.

For users that wanna hide root, try RootCloak module from Xposed repository :) give Xposed a whirl it has many great modules which allow customisation and nifty features, like XPrivacy.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 5 General] MitchRapp:
Used to unlock bootloader and root all my devices, but can't do it on my phone anymore (work-related policy).

I've tried many ROMs, and the best ones so far have been the "clean" ones. Cyanogen is horrible... feels way more bloated than a cheap Sony or Samsung device.
[Nexus 5 General] tien113:
I always root my phone, use stock ROM and xposed.
[Nexus 5 General] Shanda1:
Well, I will be sticking to the stock ROM, but I still root/custom recovery to use performance tweaks and franco's kernel. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] third son:
I have rooted and flashed ROMs in the past to avoid the annoyances that come with bloatware....The Nexus 5 has been a nice change for me. I will keep it stock for now...everything works great.
[Nexus 5 General] mjs2011:
I feel your pain. Same here with work. Got a promotion and now I need to use my phone for work. The nice thing is that my work pays for my plan now so I'll take a free plan even if it means I can't root anymore.
[Nexus 5 General] Elite_Deforce:
Unless someone is offering me 3-day battery life, I see no reason to root this wonderful device. I also like my 2-year warranty (Visa perks).
[Nexus 5 General] mistahseller:
How would they know/ why would it matter?

Sent from The Deathstar

---------- Post added at 01:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------

I only rooted for the little things. But I agree that it is amazing by itself.

Sent from The Deathstar
[Nexus 5 General] mjs2011:
I work for a financial institution, so if somehow my phone was compromised, many customers could be at risk.
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
Just got this device two days ago. Came from the HTC one. While I've rooted all my devices since the g1, only the HTC one and this device I've kept root free. It offers everything I need without having to go through the hassle of doing so.
[Nexus 5 General] gee2012:
To each his own, if you`re happy with stock that`s fine and the device works great on it. Nobody should feel obligated to root or tinker, do that what makes you feel comfortable no matter what others may say ;)
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
I agree. I have apps I've bought that are root only but I'm not obligated to use them. What actually brought me to xda full time was when I bought the Samsung vibrant (sgs1). Touchwiz was in its infancy and I hated the bloat. Those were tines when you had to root to get anything good like quick toggles, etc. And also getting the latest update to gingerbread when phones were getting left behind. It seems times have changed a lot and most phones cone with useful features out of the box, or there is always an app to help out.
[Nexus 5 General] fcisco13:
Duh!!! Its a nexus, why else would i buy one.

I rooted it before i booted into stock.

Whatchu talking bout willis!
[Nexus 5 General] HUNTERANGEL121:
I rooted as soon as I opened the box.... :p
[Nexus 5 General] _jordan_:
My n5 is unrooted, but i rooted and flashed my hackbook today.

No longer running the stock ROM :)
[Nexus 5 General] ballmead:
I finally gave in and rooted my phone and added Cwm recovery. I suppose it was only a matter of time.

I stayed with the stock ROM though, as it runs flawlessly.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Ltdrev:
I bought every nexus devices exactly for that purpose including this one , I got a free Xperia ZL with my carrier plan and sold it right away ... The bootloader wasn't unlockable
[Nexus 5 General] Bruce Lee:
I have to update my status. I found out kind of late that some nexus ROMS have HDR+ in the camera app and that sold me. To have a better battery ROM and faster performance with a good camera.... why not do it.
[Nexus 5 General] bushako:
Most important reasons I rooted mine was coz of titanium backup, greenify and xposed, most essential apps.
[Nexus 5 General] Lith808:
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[Nexus 5 General] Simonna:
Yes, 'cause of some apps that are requiring root access and for custom roms (because they have more features than the stock one) :)
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Yep because I can't live without root :p
[Nexus 5 General] Docarut:
Just stopping by and reading this thread since my phone is arriving today. I find your comment refreshing and have to agree. I have gone the unlock/root route with many devices. I find myself always checking for the newest version of whatever ROM I am on and obsessing over flashing the latest. I will just enjoy this phone as it is. Thanks for your insightful post.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
For such a busy, relied upon adult, you sure typed quite the book for complete strangers to read in a meaningless thread in the big scheme of life.

What you say in your rant is true to an extent... But that's just it.... An extent.

Your phone wasn't stable out of the box. That's why Android 4.4 has came and gone, as well as 4.4.1. There were camera issues as well as other minor bugs.

As far as rooting and flashing ROMs... I go back and forth between two ROMs for this device. Mahdi and Slim. Both ROMs are jam packed full of useful Android features. Both ROMs are just as stable as the stock ROM. Literally. But they have more features.

So if you spend $350 for a stable, reliable phone, and You see someone else with the exact same phone but can do a lot more while still being reliable, why wouldn't you.

I've NEVER had a dropped call, a call/text that didn't come through, an alarm that never went off, an email that never came, an appointment never be saved, any random reboots or anything.

So just because you feel hacking phones is for college kids and adults/kids with no responsibilities, doesn't mean your smugness makes you any better. I'm a 29 year old man, married with 3 kids and a 6 figure salary. I pay more in taxes than some people on this site make in a year. I use Rooted devices, custom ROMs, custom recoveries, and sometimes custom kernels. I also get all of my adult life handled and am as reliable as they come.

Now my rant is over
[Nexus 5 General] lolcopter:
my phone is stock unrooted because I too strive for stability and consistency when it comes to my phone. I can't be bothered to chase after the latest and greatest roms on a device I rely on daily, nor can I be bothered to constantly have to verify and re-register the device for banking outlets and other services like 2 factor authentication.

THAT BEING SAID, I tinker with my Nexus 7 tablet constantly because I do not rely on it for anything of actual importance. goofed up on a flash? oh well, that's a tomorrow problem. I love android and I love customizing and tinkering with electronics, but my phone works so well out of box and I'm glad android is at a point where that is the great experience. it's come a long ways from the days where you HAD to hack your galaxy s1 just to get the damn gps to work
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
Thank you for demonstrating the exact sort of response I described in my post. You know, the "I've used X and Y and it's all great for me" response.

The ultimate point was to counter this stupid elitist attitude (much like the one you're taking on now) that by choosing not to reflash your phone, you are somehow wasting money or not "getting the most" out of your phone.

I have an alternate (and realistic explanation) as to why I don't mess with my phone nearly as much as people like you do, and for some reason (possibly insecurity) you took it as some sort of epic mortal offense.

I can't say you "rant" is also "true to an extent", because the only thing you've done is brag about unrelated things and make completely nonsensical arguments ("if you saw....then why wouldn't you?"). If you needed that off your chest, well done for you.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Lol nobody was offended. Bottom line is you're categorizing people that hack their phone as unreliable college kids basically on the sole knowledge that you flashed bunk, broken ROMs in the past. When in reality, a lot of us are reliable, functional, and model citizens that manage to make it through life just fine. Because you don't tinker with your device is your own loss. If you don't, you're not necessarily wasting your money, but you're most certainly not maximizing it's full potential by any means. There are stable ROMs that do come with nice features that are useful and don't break anything. Cyanogenmod was the ROM example you gave. I was letting you know that most ROMs for this phone aren't broken like cm. That's all. Enjoy your stock device
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
There you go again; your stuck-up arrogance shows the way you talk down to people who don't use their phones the way you do and the irony of that is clearly (and hilariously) lost upon you.

You just don't get it. It is not my "loss". It is a different way of doing things compared to you. However, unlike you, I am not elevating myself on some sort of pedestal, nor am I talking down to you like a child. I didn't say that people who flash ROMs are people who don't need to be responsible adults. You inferred that through your own ridiculous bias.

"Maximizing the full potential of your device" means different things to different people. But, as I said before, it's a phase of XDA that I went through and I imagine you're still in it. (I'm not being condescending when I say that, but realizing that fact would be inconvenient for you, of course).

And by the way, I did not say that I am unrooted stock with no changes. I'm rooted with Xposed and GravityBox. But you know, reading, and stuff. I imagine the words are very tiny when you're reading them from so high up.
[Nexus 5 General] jd1639:
Guys, stop the arguing. Some like to flash everything they can. It's a hobby. That's ok. Others are perfectly happy with it bare bones stock. Some are in between. Its all ok. Just enjoy your phone the way you like it. One is not better or worse than the other.
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
And this was the only point I was trying to make.

There's not much more to be gained by staying subscribed to this thread, so I'll let anyone else who wants to continue keep doing so in peace.
[Nexus 5 General] Sander M:
The Nexus 5 is my first Android which isn't rooted within weeks. The only reason I rooted my previous phones was at first the basic stuff like taking screenshots and flashing an as close to vanilla Android rom as possible because I dis-like manufacturer skins. But Nexus where hard to purchase over here, or insanely overpriced.

Now that root ain't necessary anymore for the most basic stuff, and the Nexus 5 was easily available in my country I no longer need root and I am a happy stock user :)

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] an0ther:
I bought the nexus 5 because of the ease of unlocking boot loader. I unlocked bootloader, rooted, custom recovery on first boot.
[Nexus 5 General] Tunderpimp:
I rooted and did the whole nine yards, because I like to Bluetooth tethering a ps3 controller to my phone for games
[Nexus 5 General] handy5876:
Stock for me. I sacrificed most of my time and satisfied all my urges to root and ROM with my last device -> HTC Desire. Any case I require stock for my Dev efforts.

BTW stop peering much into the phone. It brings on short vision quickly :)