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[G2 General] Cst79:
Yes, there is the proof that the sensor modul is Sony IMX 135.

However, I don't see all the 4K fuss right now. 2 years from now it will make sense, but right now the bit rates of the Full HD are so low with smartphones that the Full HD recordings are quite low quality. A better Full HD would be more valuable than 4K right now. And you don't shoot special life moments with a smartphone...:)

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Does anyone know, does the Korean KitKat official firmware improve the low-light camera capabilities of the LG G2 ? This is my biggest hope for the KitKat, to improve the low-light abilities of the camera. I don't mind more noise and more detail ! Right now it's a mess with a lot of noise reduction and not much detail left.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
So, is OIS a Sony IMX 135 module feature? Then why is it not activated in Note 3?

No. And how would it? Name a phew phones which record video in FullHD in low light better than G2. Examples from youtube are welcome
[G2 General] owhbaem:
I recently update my father's note 3 to kitkat, there are so many problem occured, majorly s-view not functioning with 3rd party casing, and lagging,+ some people get random reboot, i dont mind if we get little bit late, but make sure there are not such that problem.
[G2 General] darknessmessiah:
did you hard reseted? I highly recommend that... Those updates are not like our PC's... That's the first thing I'll do after updating my G2 to kitkat (when it arrives)
[G2 General] 1Jonathan1:
I disagree, LG told that 4k recording was not included at the moment but there is a possibility that it will be added in the next major version (can't find source but will post it as soon as I find it). They did not feel the need to add it because of the lack of 4K televisions but due to several 4k television announcements (also by LG) it is possible. Futhermore in the Korean Kitkat release there are drivers for 4k decoding and encoding. So in my opinion there is a very high possibility that we will get 4K recording in the following months.

and people PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. LG announced that they will release a lg g2 pro so no g3 yet. This device is most-likely the D830 which is just a bigger LG G2 with more RAM and it is running Kitkat. This is probably the reason for the delay, since I believe that they will release an almost identical version of the software of the LG G2 pro to the LG G2
[G2 General] krichek:
Here is one of the few documents I can find straight from Sony on the sensor in the G2 http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/#r=s To me it looks like it is capable of 1080p@60fps max.
[G2 General] platiNa:
It is however capable of 90fps 720p, which i would really like. My friend has an iPhone 5s with slow motion capability and im quite jealous of that!
[G2 General] eseregin:
The proof Is in your phone, look into /system/vendor/lib

File name libchromatix_imx135_snapshot.so will tell what the sensor module is :)

And yes, same in Galaxy S4 9500 (9505 uses different)

Note 3 uses different sensor as well
[G2 General] 1Jonathan1:
The galaxy note 3 supports 4k and the sensor used in the note 3 is a IMX135 therefore the LG G2 is almost certainly capable of 4k recording. Source indicating that the note has a IMX135 http://www.chipworks.com/en/technical-competitive-analysis/resources/blog/inside-the-galaxy-note-3/
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] :
So now that KitKat is rolling out in Saudi Arabia, when do you guys think we will have a port to other devices, such as ATT, Verizon, Sprint, etc?
[G2 General] robogo1982:
That article is 3 days old, yet nobody here said they got it.

A bit odd to me.
[G2 General] baileyjr:
Nice device "assuming" you want a 6" device. Having had a Note 2 and a 6.4" Xperia Z Ultra I can tell you bigger isn't always better. 5.2" is right on the border of phablet territory. Its pretty much an ideal size, for me anyway... I really like what LG is doing with tiny bezels etc... Be nice to see what they could do with a 5.35-5.4" device in the same format at the G2. Note 2 screen width in portrait is a very nice size but the device footprint itself is just to big.
[G2 General] Perilla_:
ATT, Verizon, Sprint, etc??

International first lol
[G2 General] beezar:
The Korean kit kat supposedly does not change the camera at all. However, in an article linked earlier in this thread, the kit kat that's going to be released to the rest of us will be different than the Korean version and will have an improved camera, whatever that means.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
They done it already, see http://xdaforums.com/optimus-g-pro. But 76mm wide, meh, for me it's already too big, unmanageable. 71mm width of G2 is on the verge of manageability with one hand, for me bigger is worse
[G2 General] baileyjr:
Yeah I've seen the Optimus G Pro, but its just that bit too big. I'll like to see something in the middle between the 5.2" and 5.5" range. Even then I'd have to physically use it for a few days to see if it was more suitable to me than the G2, I suspect not. The G2 size is just small enough that I consider it a phone. Anything bigger i would consider a phablet, and that is not the experience I'm looking for now.
[G2 General] taheromar:
This..

Please...please... please... stop referring to the LG Saudi Arabia Tweet... THEY APOLOGIZED... ITS INCORRECT!
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2614507 G3 will probably fit in that range with 5,25" AH-IPS WQHD 2560x1440 matrix and maybe they can manage 2 fit it in 73mm wide smart. If LG won't sell LGMobile to Lenovo, of course :p

If G3 will be 5,5" than it's more likely 75mm @ best. Well again it's OT here
[G2 General] baileyjr:
I don't think I'd even contemplate changing for a 5.25" display. I think we are reaching a tripping point in hight end smartphones where hardware is becoming less important. The S800 is pleanty fast enough and WQHD would be overkill on this size screen. Its still interesting to watch where it goes but I've no concerns buying a G2 today as its perfect for my needs. :)
[G2 General] linasg:
stay on topic please: LG G2 and KitKat...
[G2 General] jiteshj:
10% posts are on topic, 10% posts are objected to be on topic and 80% off topic stuff
[G2 General] JEEVADON92:
Is it good to root or to wait for official update
[G2 General] Cst79:
Well...it's not coming :)
[G2 General] owhbaem:
Root your device please. Use gflex rom. You will be satisfied with several add-on features
[G2 General] Br1ce:
Winter will be there in GoT before KK on our G2s :)

Seriously, we're using one of the best device and LG made really good job with the current OS version. Why wouldn't they with KK ? Let's just wait a couple of months, I'm sure we won't be disappointed !
[G2 General] Ganga10:
Any one have a Info about liquidsmooth 4.4. Desperately Waiting for things rom.
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
Please if some of moderators would be kind to lock this thread. People are tired of reporting.
[G2 General] Joeful:
So, don't report. If the off-topic conversation bothers you, you're free to leave. It will inevitably be closed by moderators, if deemed off-topic.

Also... it's a forum. xD
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
It bothers all. I mean for people who want to talk about kitkat for G2. Not for Sammy fans, not HTC fans, not Sony fans.

If deemed off-topic? You are probably blind. Here is almost all OT, well except some posts and there are 5% of that.
[G2 General] Joeful:
Really? I just scrolled right past it, then got ready for work. *shrugs*
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Google Inc. :D

LG G2
[G2 General] eggman89:
I didn't mean I want KitKat right now. Like other OEMs, getting it till Jan is acceptable. But the silence by LG is what is worrying me.

Samsung, Sony , Moto and HTC has announced their plan. LG is the only one who is silent on this topic.
[G2 General] realeze:
Honestly, there is no real incentive for LG to devote resources to getting software updates out quickly. They compete on price and aren't overly concerned with brand loyalty.
[G2 General] eastmesawhat:
Been running gummy for 2 days no issues over here. Except it doesn't have much customization. But the rom was built for stability and performance, to be as close to stock as possible.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
That is a huge pile of horse crap. LG knows that they are behind the 8 ball in terms of smartphone brand loyalty. I strongly feel that the G2 is going to be the first phone to help with that turnaround focus not only making good hardware but provide adequate Android software update support. You don't know how LG devotes its resources at the company. It will get it and I am sure that LG is working on a stock 4.4 ROM for all G2 variants. Just be patient. It takes time to implement this stuff and go through the necessary process of internal testing between LG and wireless carrier.
[G2 General] realeze:
Sorry I wasn't trying to rag on LG. Just pointing out that unlike established brands like Google, Apple, and Samsung, LG does not have the same user base or brand loyalty to justify large software maintenance costs for older devices. I bought the phone with this in mind. People should not buy an LG phone expecting timely software upgrades. While I don't know how LG devotes their resources, I have a pretty good idea how they will. It isn't personal, it is just business.

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How are Bluetooth stability and battery life doing on gummy? Haven't had the opportunity to flash it yet...
[G2 General] phatmanxxl:
LG has definitely upped their game over the past year, they also plegged 4.4 updates to their flagship phones, if they keep up this momentum then i can see them easily overtaking Samsungs spotlight. They have the advertising campaign right all they need now is the carrier stores to have them Center stage.
[G2 General] kuksenko:
I don't think we will get an official 4.4 update anytime soon. These darn layers that companies put trying to make things better only make it worse. there is a rom for 4.4 but i got to warn you it is still in alpha mode... but here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=2502789
[G2 General] montrealguy:
Where did you get this information? To my knowledge, the only confirmation was given by a French carrier and they subsequently retracted their statements.
[G2 General] patman920:
Auto Awesome

With an updated 4.4 rom will you be able to access googles Auto Awesome feature?
[G2 General] Jank4AU:
And you obviously didn't have the Optimus G did you...? This will probably get 4.4 and then be left to die.

Just like the LGOG and N4 were sister phones, so are G2 & N5. Google isn't going to let LG put out a superior handset to theirs with the same OS anytime soon. Except for 4.4 and Gorilla Glass 3, the G2 is a decidedly better handset.
[G2 General] kcharng:
If devs with limited resources but geared with tireless hardwork can release alpha, beta version of 4.4, just imagine what a billions dollars company with source codes should be able to do on their own products.

We sees how Sony fails when it comes to updates and look at them now. Like it or not getting on time updates has risen to be pretty high on consumer satisfaction checklist.
[G2 General] Jank4AU:
I think that's what many of us fail to realize. Of all the phones sold, those of us who choose to mod and unlock our handsets make up a paltry fraction. I don't think they are terribly worried about it in order to keep our small numbers happy.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
I don't claim that LG in the past has been the best in software update department. In fact they are one of the worst offenders besides Motorola. I get that. However what I am trying to say is that I feel that LG has hit a home run with the LG G2 and you can tell that LG is treating the LG G2 differently with a more buffed up marketing campaign and just overall more buzz and positive reviews by consumers and tech blogs. I actually see LG G2 commercials trying to market this product. I think LG realizes this that they have a home run in the hands and is going to do what it takes to retain customer support and build some customer loyalty. This is why I think LG will treat the LG G2 differently and provide it timely Android software updates especially if it even wants to think about selling a LG G3 or even a LG G Pro 2 phablet in 2014 and get people to buy it. Smartphone enthusiasts are watching with a close eye this upcoming year to see if LG has finally turned the page and will provide timely Android updates. If that happens I expect even more folks to jump on board with the LG G3 and LG G Pro 2 phablet. I still think that LG will eventually update the LG Optimus G and LG Optimus G Pro phones to Android 4.4 since that is what Google wants even legacy devices to have as their baseline.

You mentioned the lack of support on the Optimus G which honestly how many people were even aware of the LG Optimus G phone's existence especially when it was only sold on 2 US carriers (AT&T and Sprint)? AT&T is notorious for having the most iPhone users of all the US major carriers so of course sales were low and Sprint doesn't have enough subscribers to make a dent in sales. Its no wonder that the LG Optimus G didn't get as much love as they should have. There was very little to no marketing campaign by LG to market the Optimus G and only people sort of heard about the Optimus G since it was the model used to make the Nexus 4. Even the Nexus 4 was a limited phone sold in the US due to it not supporting the majority of the US LTE bands. My point is you can't look at what happened with the LG Optimus G and expect a repeat of that on the LG G2. For one thing, the LG G2 is now sold on all 4 major US carriers and had superb reviews. More and more folks are picking up the LG G2 every stinkin day.
[G2 General] gemstocks:
My Nexus 7 LTE is running KK 4.4, I don't feel it makes much difference from 4.3.1, and several tweaked apps such as the dialer and native MM are no longer working.

I had been using SG3 and upgraded it to CM AOSP KK 4.4 as well, but the phone's glass, LCD, and digitizer were damaged after I dropped it last week. I then decided to get a Nexus 5, unfortunately it won't be shipped until Dec 15th, I need it now. After did my research, I found many ranked G2 better than Note 3, it has similar hardware spec as Nexus 5 of course.

Luckily I found a brand new G2 from a store here selling for $425, got it yesterday, rooted the phone last night, flashed it with different ROMs. Now I flashed back to the stock ROM since I like the UI and lockscreen with alerts, of course also like the knock knock feature as well.

Overall, very happy with this phone with the stock ROM and without KK.
[G2 General] Jank4AU:
I'm running a vanilla 4.4 PA4.0 right now and I can confirm there is a noticeable improvement in battery life. There are a few weird things google did that really take getting used to, (no more menu button, replaced by recents key???) but it's growing on me.

[MENTION=522381]ericdabbs[/MENTION] - In Alabama where I live we had just as much advertising for the Optimus G as we see now for the G2. Probably because the SE is huge for AT&T. I actually still think it's one of the top handset out for being a year old. However, the G2 just probably won't get more than 2 updates IMO so don't hold your breath. But even then they won't release source code for it right away or all the drivers, making custom ROM dev more difficult.

Many people argue with me that you shouldn't buy a phone for its potential or what it can do, you should buy it just for what it does out of the box. I run stock for a week to get the feel, then pick a custom ROM and go. Houston will probably keep us two steps ahead of LG anyway. ;) It's a great handset and LG has a winner. They can't keep it in the stores here. I hope you guys enjoy yours. My point I'd that I'm not sitting around waiting for LG to provide updates.

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[G2 General] jiteshj:
Maybe u can sign the petition and be on 4.2.2 if we ever get an update

LG G2
[G2 General] Jank4AU:
Why, I'm already on KitKat 4.4...come on in, the water's fine! :P
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
It just sounds like a Nexus device suits your needs better since it seems like you keep using your device well beyond the 2 year contract. To me as long as it does provide the 2 major updates in the next 2 years I own this device, I am fine with it. Since I am on Sprint, it is not like I wasn't aware of the Nexus 5 and don't have the opportunity to pick that up. I just think the G2 is an overall better device than the Nexus 5. Only time will tell if LG has finally turned the page on its approach on providing updates to its flagship phones.

Lets not forget that Samsung was not always the android software saint as it is today. If you owned any Samsung phone in 2010/2011, they were notorious for having signal issues and lack of Android software support. In 2012 Samsung turned the page and has not looked back. It is now the best OEM for software updates. I think LG can get there as well since they are fierce rivals to Samsung but the upper management at LG needs to realize that Android software support is one of the key factors in repeat customers.
[G2 General] Coertmans:
Running Android 4.4 (kitkat) for a day of 2 an only got 1 word for it "WOW" !!!

And this is just in AlphA stage .!! Everything works so far.... Didn't found 1 bug for so far.....
[G2 General] knitler:
It doesn't bother me. Apparently I'm not part of "all".
[G2 General] MarkyG82:
The origin of this thread was to collate all the KK talk as we were getting so many new threads daily. The 'official' in the title states the thread is official, not the subject.

If this was closed it would happen all over again. Please keep it open at least until we have widespread KK release.
[G2 General] alex xander:
I thing people can make there own choices, if you don't want to be part of this thread then leave.
[G2 General] geonahta:
Read the first post of the Thread.
[G2 General] xxBrun0xx:
Honestly, I'm not sure why you all want official kit kat. It'd be cool to say we have the latest and greatest, but this phone is already incredibly good. I dare you to try to use an official 4.4 HTC one or s4 after using this for as long as you have. You're going to be very disappointed. This phone is the Holy grail of hardware, which lets it run basically anything smoothly. Kit Kat might be slightly smoother and slightly better on your battery, but is anyone complaining about stock performance? Can anyone kill their battery in a day without being on their phone for 8 hours straight? We've got the best phone money can buy, just appreciate it for what it is and if we get an update, that's great. But if we don't, we still have the best phone money can buy.

Short version: quit *****ing
[G2 General] baileyjr:
I agree to a point, but it would be nice to feel some love from LG for their customers. Personally I don't care if the update doesn't come until March, as long as it comes.
[G2 General] geoff5093:
I just hope they don't give us KK and then leave it at that, as I'm sure there will be bugs that hopefully we get fixed.
[G2 General] votinh:
I just want to see how people react after installing KK. :)

I'm sure there is ton of people who eager to put KK on their device then after that, they turn back and bash the new firmware.

Fun to see.
[G2 General] mockrocker:
Its not about *****ing about KK update. We're all concerned how LG will deliver their updates. This is a flagship phone so we should expect the best treatment with regards to update.
[G2 General] gm007:
Did you buy a phone for the updates? Lol get a nexus...
[G2 General] baileyjr:
I think its fair to expect at least one or two updates when buying a flagship device. I'm not overly concerned about when it comes though, as long as it does.
[G2 General] votinh:
We already have at least one update and I do believe KK will eventually come to our device.

There are still people whining about not getting next OS (the one after KK) though.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
We haven't had 4.3 yet. This seems to be forgotten by all.
[G2 General] Dearborn1977:
Doesn't matter, they'll skip to KK. The galaxy s3 went from 4.1.2 to 4.3. They don't have to go in order.

LG G2 VS980 / 12B Stock Rooted / G2 Xposed+G2 TweaksBox
[G2 General] RayTrue04:
That's Samsung though. We're lucky if we see 4.3 on this device. When buying an LG you buy it for hardware not software updates. I own an LG Optimus G and now a G2 so I know better about expecting updates.
[G2 General] baileyjr:
Well it gives me hope that they have already released 4.4 for the Korean G2
[G2 General] votinh:
This device released in Sept '13, shipped with 4.2.2.

You want to see it gets JB 4.3 or you want to see KK 4.4 on it?

JB 4.3 is history and I don't think anyone in this forum would want to see 4.3 update. We want 4.4.

If you don't think it will ever get 4.4 then it is your thought.

I do believe it will get 4.4, now or 2 months later, I don't care. 4.2.2 has been fantastic.
[G2 General] Xenovias:
I own L7 4X OG G Pro before

And i know better, this device will get at least 1 major update
[G2 General] bobsie41:
Whatever. At the end of the day, at the moment, this is LG's flagship device.

I have just come from the HTC one (died) and I love the hardware here but come on, make an effort LG, bit laggy sometimes and please let us utilise this lovely 5.2 inch screen to it's full.

Samsung cleans up with inferior devices so perhaps there might be a lesson here for LG to learn.

At the end of the day, excellent hardware, with beautiful screen but definitely needs some love and effort. I don't care if it's KitKat or you work on improving 4.2.2 but please LG don't miss out on the opportunity to make this the best device out there by being lazy.

Surely it makes sense from a business perspective?

PS How old is the S3 now?
[G2 General] player911:
They're not releasing 4.3, they're releasing 4.4 and it's already out officially, just not globally. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. There's physical proof that LG has already made 4.4 for the G2. Its in the carriers hands now.
[G2 General] thebehemoth73:
In my opinion I believe Lg had reasons to release it on 4.2 and not 4.3 ...and im sure they are skipping 4.3 all together so they don't count it as a official upgrade from good based on Google's 3 lifetime major software upgrades for the phone..
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Yeah it gets a bit annoying but people are just impatient.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
My device is free from carrier added bloatware so where is my diktat update?

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If they're skipping 4.3 then surely it would make good business sense to push 4.4 as a matter of urgency?

Why is everybody making excuses on LG's behalf?

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[G2 General] :
they should use newest sources, as they contain security fixes... 4.4.2

problem is android is build in a way that security fixes arent send by carriers in patches, its done on a whole rom level. Android is flawed in that sense.
[G2 General] eseregin:
It's not about it in whole thing.

HTC one had KitKat, sgs4 has, note 3 has, even raritet Motorola RAZR Max!

Lg the last one who does not care to be in leaders.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
LG HAS released the kitkat update, just not globally yet. The update is coming, I don't know went some of you can't seem to comprehend that, you're being impatient. If you want updates straight away get a Nexus.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Its already feb, i want lg to release now, they had enough time
[G2 General] LenAsh:
Tell LG then... pointless whining here.

Not sure what you expect the update to give you. Or why you are having problems with the existing version.

Suspect you will be disappointed by how little will "change". On the Moto G we have the KK update was a minor bump, and nothing to write home about at all. Some things are worse.
[G2 General] eths83600:
I have the international version 902, I live in Taiwan and Judy got the 4.4 update!