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[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
I've always thought it was interesting that the Nexus 4/5 and Nexus 7 sell at such different price points despite being really similar from a BOM perspective. There's clearly some subsidizing going on with the N7. With the N5, it's not quite as clear due to the higher (but still relatively low) price point.
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
Exactly my point again. If tmobile is buying the N5 directly from LG and charging 450 dollars , without some form of subsidy how does Google sell it for 350 and how do they then make a profit? In the end is the only logical conclusion is that they are subsidizing the hardware and their profit is focused on the proliferation of their Google services not the hardware

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Well then T-Mobile is making a bad business decision by not buying them from the Playstore ;)

>^·^< Sent From Meow LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
Imagine that order lol. Yes May we order 3 million nexus 5 2 million of those black please?

I'm sorry sir we can not handle a wholesale order of that magnitude
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
http://androidandme.com/2013/11/opinions/motorola-is-onto-something-with-the-moto-g/

An indirect commentary on this subject through the moto G. Ps how do you think the Moto G is being sold at such a low price? magic?
[Nexus 5 General] lwfb:
Yes. Of course they are profiting from their services. They are a services company with billions in revenue from their services and the ads that accompany them.

Did you forget that Google isn't a hardware company like Samsung or HTC?

This is nothing new... Do you think Google's stock soared to $1000 a share because of selling Nexus devices? Of course not, it's because their ad volume growth on mobiles have outpaced the cost per click. It's not just Android that's driving this increase (though it certainly helps) but every mobile OS that has access to Google's services, such as YouTube for example.

Google could give these phones away and still profit, the only goal they have is to get a smartphone with their services into as many hands as possible so that they can continue the growth in mobile ads. The Moto G is meant to directly compete with all of the cheap Chinese made smartphones, the advantage being that the Moto G has Play Store support and is Google approved.

Check this out:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE99G17Z20131017?irpc=932

:rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] bbgt2:
If Google wasn't making money there would not be any Nexus products. Motorola is losing money big time $100 million last quarter I believe and yet Google is still in the black. They are all good folks don't worry.
[Nexus 5 General] Zeffir:
Its pretty obvious its subsidized... Its not often you hear of a phone phone getting a bill of materials for more then $200 or so. Lol.
[Nexus 5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's something interesting. If BOM costs and "a little marketing" represent true costs for manufacturers, explain these Q3 2013 margins. Apple's at 33% and Samsung's at 20%. Everyone else is in the toilet. Spoiler alert: the overhead required to get a mobile device out the door and promoted is staggering as this chart shows. And all that overhead is the cost of doing business and has to be distributed over the products produced. If LG's at -3% margin selling devices at far higher prices than what Google's selling devices produced for them by LG is it doesn't take a PhD to realize Google's subsidizing the Nexus-line.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Why quibble about a silly widget? Its user and their metadata are the product, the widgets and services are just infrastructure to facilitate the real sale.
[Nexus 5 General] ApriliaM3:
Let's try and keep things relatively on-topic and civil here please guys.

Resist the urge to get involved in arguments and simply press the report button in future.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Google could sell absolutely no smartphones and actually make more profit. Hardware revenue is like pissing in the ocean.

Motorola Mobile Segment Revenues – Motorola Mobile segment revenues were $1.18 billion, or 8% of consolidated revenues in the third quarter of 2013, compared to $1.78 billion.​

And while Google's revenue (and margin) are up in every other business segment it's down in smartphones and actually dragging down earnings.

Motorola Mobile Segment Operating Loss – Motorola Mobile segment operating loss in the third quarter of 2013 was $248 million, or -21% of Motorola Mobile segment revenues. This compares to segment operating loss of $192 million, or -11% of Motorola Mobile segment revenues in the third quarter of 2012.​

And Motorola h/w sales are probably 10x what Nexus sales are because of their carrier relationships and broader distribution.

Here's their Q3 financial report. Hardware is irrelevant in the greater scheme of things.

http://investor.google.com/earnings/2013/Q3_google_earnings.html

Of all the h/w Google's produced the most significant is/was low-cost Android tablets. It was a segment being ignored or mangled by Android manufacturers and Google's intervention with the N7 changed the entire business dynamic of the tablet segment. And content sales on tablets dwarf that of phones. So the N4/5 are "cute" but the N7's are/were transformational.
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
Sent from my Nexus 5

Thank you this post was very informative
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
In the end it is like I have been saying. Google knows and willing is loosing money on Nexus and now Motorola to further two points. Bringing down the cost of phones so as to get phones in everyone's hands and two then making sure all those phones will have googles services and ads so the real profitability is achieved.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] lwfb:
Yes, exactly right.

Amazon takes a similar approach with their hardware too. You really benefit if you're a Prime subscriber, for example.

It's all about the user data and the subscribers to their services for guys like Google and Amazon.

I say good on them.

All things considered, Google is making a killing off of me... My All Access and Drive subscriptions, my gmail account, and all of my Google search data (and the ads that come with it) is money in their pocket.

Since I'm going to use these services regardless of the Android phone I have, I'd rather have a $400 Nexus 5, a $400 Nexus 10 and a $230 Nexus 7 than the Samsung (or any other manufacturer) equivalents for a much higher price.
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
Perfect summation of this thread!

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] SamReciter:
Okay - but LG presents it this this way:

androidheadlines:lg-explains-nexus-5-costs-450-outside-play-store

And as 100$ aren't that much i always asumed it could be just stuff, stores, service and logistics.

And stupid and cost intensive supplier/seller chains.

Greets...
[Nexus 5 General] AndreaCristiano:
Yes exactly pricing decisions made by Google as underpricing it to get it everywhere to proliferate their software

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alcatrazx:
Giuys

Now this is weird and I tried turning off phone and on again but to no avail. I updated to the latest firmware (over the air) for my Xperia Z and I noticed some weird behaviour ... 1 Google + is now crashing 2 Some times upon pressing the power button the backlight of the display comes on but the mobile does not and I would have to turn it off again and back on to get it on. And now the latest surprise is ..... I CANNOT go past my lock screen . I am inserting the correct pin ,,,, the one I usually use and now I am desperate because I DONT want to lose the data that's in it. I know I can re-flash the mobile and resolve the issue but I have some photos which I really wish to keep as they have emotional value. So I want to avoid the route of doing a hard reset yet.

Thing is after I inserted the pincode and its saying its wrong for a number of times ... I expected the forgot password button to turn up on the lock screen but it is not ... Could anyone kindly explain to m e how to get this forgot password to come up on my numeric lock screen ? Everything is stock and the phone has wifi and 3g set to off ....

Please help !! I don't want to lose what's in my mobile.

Kind Regards

Al
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsyber2000:
Are you able to tap on "emergency call" on the lockscreen? If yes, go ahead and tap it. It should open up the dialpad then type in *#*#7378423#*#* . It should open up the service menu. At the service menu, navigate to "service tests" ---> "NFC" and let the test run. Once the test compleates, go ahead and tap the "home" button. You should see you homescreen.

Hope it helps :)

Regards.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dreiundachzig:
Tried to test it for myself without having problems with my pin lockscreen. But this doesn't work. A window pops up and tells me that this is not an emergency number.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsyber2000:
If that fails as well, i think its better to contact Sony Customer Service and check if they could help but to be honest with you, high chances are there that they will advice you to perform a hard reset. Sorry dude :/
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r1nstang:
Just bought an AT&T Lg G2 and unlocked it for Tmobile/Metropcs use and after setting APN settings I still have no connection at all. Im unable to send a single text, get online or anything. Im sure im doing something simple wrong. Tmobile has 4G in my area so i should get great speeds. Anyone got any ideas?

I've entered APN for both 4G and non 4G
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimtyson:
Did you reboot? Probably did but it already, right?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r1nstang:
yup I've rebooted multiple times. Went into Networks searched networks it found AT&T Tmobile and MetroPCS and a few others. i've tried AT&T tmobile and Tmobile LTE and Metro PCs...all with no luck
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sacrosaint:
I'm afraid that the AT&T D800 does not support AWS/UMTS Bands, which are T-Mobile's main frequencies. I've just pulled this list from Wikipedia:

AT&T - D800

GSM 850/900/1800/1900

UMTS 850/1900/2100

LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/850(5)/700(17)

T-Mobile - D801

GSM 850/900/1800/1900

UMTS 850/1700/1900/2100

LTE 1900(2)/1700(4)/700(17)

Namely, you are missing UMTS band 1700 which manages about 50% of T-Mobile customers' HSPA+ connection. That being said, the fact that you cannot connect to T-Mobile's LTE band 1700 is weird. Also, UMTS band 1900 should also work.

Perhaps you're in an area with ONLY UMTS 1700 which would not work with the AT&T LG G2. Do you know if there's LTE coverage in your area?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r1nstang:
Yes I am in DFW area which is one of the largest LTE areas Tmobile has. I'm unable to get a connection at all. It says phone is for "emergencies only" I cant make calls, text, or use web.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craigbailey1986:
Sounds like the phone is not SIM unlocked. Need to verify it is SIM unlocked. Also where did you buy it. If the phone was bought from a person it could have been reported stolen or lost and blocked from T-Mobile.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r1nstang:
I bought it off Swappa. Ill try the unlock code again but it said it was unlocked. it doesnt come up with any error when i put the new sim card in anymore.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WorldIRC:
You're likely in an area that does not have HSPA 1900 coverage; and since you're AT&T variant doesn't support the band, is showing no service. Locking onto LTE wouldn't help as HSPA is required for voice access.

I created a thread in the Q&A asking for ways to enable the missing AWS band on our AT&T / Canadian variant handsets. It was doable on Samsung and am hoping it can be done on our handsets.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r1nstang:
turns out MetroPCS had to activate it. you cant just stick a sim into a new phone. they have to activate it on your account. $15 later (yeah i know...its BS) but the Lg G2 is up and running and getting 4G speeds
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gadget:
Cannot charge xda executive with car charger ,when connected nothing happens light does not go red and also the connection icon does not show
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] agent003:
make sure you dont have a faulty charger... dont know what you are using but i believe most people use the cigarette lighter to usb converter and then just use the usb cable... also have you tried pressing the on and off swith with the charger plugged in ?

BR
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gadget:
car charger

Hi and thanks for the fast reply mate <yes it is a new charger from o2 .

No i have not tried the on off with the switch ,but would i still be able to charge when i am using tomtom
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] agent003:
Whell....I use the cigarette lighter to usb adapter and usb cable ...at times i have had to quik press the on/off swith and at times plug and unplug the cable to get it to charge ....I used this as a "jump start" method only and no problems after that with using it whillst on charge (even with tomtom)..... other than that you may have a faulty charger or fag lighter to usb adapter (I never seen what a o2 one looks like).

BR
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bluesign2k:
Is the charger one especially for the exec?

I found normal usb chargers for phones like V3 or a GPS charger cant supply enough current to charge an exec.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bryson:
hi, yeah i have had this problem, and so have a few of my clients, seems that not enough juice flows through the non branded versions, unlike from o2's or Brodits cables
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] StevePritchard:
I found that a regular USB cable into a Cigarette Lighter -> USB Socket didn't work until I joined pin 4 to pin 5 on the USB B Mini plug. All of the adapters I had that worked, but only powered (no data, i.e. Brodit and mains adapter) seemed to have pin 4 joined to pin 5 (pin 4 isn't normally connected at all). Once I did that mod it worked fine.

Cheers,

Steve.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ineedtoys:
Orange shops carry a charger intended for HTC manufactured devices (i.e. the SPV C500/M500 range) which works fine. Only £9.99.
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
PAC-man ROM is a combination of the three Super ROMs Available

Paranoid Android + AOKP + Cyanogenmod = PAC-man

This ROM packs all the tweaks from the three super ROMs into one.

Why choose among ROMs, When you have All-in-One !!

Attention!!!

​

This currently only supports GT-I9105P, when Goo.im is back I will port to GT105! Also, these are Developer Builds,

I'm not responsible for bricks of any type, you are chossing to test!​

Features​

* All in One Rom [PA, AOKP and CM]
* PhoneUI, TabletUI, PhabletUI
* Latest Version Nightly Builds
* All Feautures from PA
* Some Features from AOKP
* All Features from CM
* Parts from other interesting Projects
* Basically if there is a cool feature out there and its open source,
then we will try to bring that feature into PAC-man
(insert PAC-man eating a pellet sound here)
* Of course JellyBean 4.3

Changelog​

[B][U]Build 1 - 20131115[/U][/B]
*Initial Release

Working​

- You tell me

Downloads​

[B][COLOR="Blue"]Build 2 - 20131116[/COLOR] >> [URL="http://d-h.st/dKJ"]http://d-h.st/dKJ[/URL][/B]
[COLOR="Blue"]Build 1 - 20131115[/COLOR] >> [URL="http://d-h.st/FFi"]http://d-h.st/FFi[/URL]
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
PACman FAQ​

​

PIE FAQ​

Q. What is PIE?

A. PIE is a new way to interact with your notifications. It provides easy gesture based interaction with all your system information without taking up valuable screen space. PIE is what you see in this image.

Q. How do I access Pie?

A. Swipe your finger from the pie gravity edge (default is the bottom) toward the center of your screen. While keeping your finger on the screen, drag your finger to the desired button and release to click.

Q. My PIE doesn't look like the ones in the screenshots. I don't see the Clock or notifications.

A. Notifications work either through the status bar or PIE. If the status bar is enabled, PIE reverts to just the softkeys. To enable the full PIE experience, enable Expanded Desktop by going to Settings -> System -> Power Menu -> Expanded Desktop (Status bar hidden). Access the power menu and turn Expanded Desktop on.

Q. How do I change PIE colors?

A. Go to Settings -> Hybrid Properties -> Interface and change the Navigation bar color.

Q. Buttons or keyboard rows near the edge of my screen are nonresponsive.

A. PIE's trigger area overlay is covering the edge of your screen. Change either the Trigger Area or Pie Gravity in Settings -> System -> PIE Settings.

Q. I don't like PIE, how do I turn it off?

A. To disable PIE set Trigger Area to None in Settings -> System -> Pie Settings. Remember to disable Expanded Desktop to turn status bar on again.

ROM FAQ​

Q.Do I need to do a full wipe before installing this ROM?

A. Unless coming from a previous version of PACman it is highly recommended to do a full wipe before installing. This includes coming from ParanoidAndroid ROMs.

Q.What do the settings in Hybrid Properties do?

A. ParanoidAndroid has an extensive guide to the settings at this thread: [GUIDE][PARANOIDANDROID] A Complete Compendium on ParanoidPreferences [PA-Settings] Please do not post questions related to PA Settings in this thread, they are not ROM specific and all we'll do is point you to that thread.

Q.How do I turn on the Navigation Bar??

A.To enable the NavBar open Hybrid Properties, swipe the screen to the right to peek through to the menu.

Select Interface, now set your desired NavBar size with the slider.

Q.Something isn't working. What do I do?

A. Report it here

A BIG thank you to IconRunner for putting together the FAQ!! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
reserved #2
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] cinask:
Don't even get through the samsung logo, gets stuck on it :crying: . I'm back to nandroid's cm10.2 backup :D . Sorry, but I'm unable to provide logcat in this situation. Thanks, anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
I will update shortly:good: Your using gt-I9105P right?
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] maelfilk:
Is it only fo 9105p or for both versions?
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Brian_SGW_CM9:
It's mentioned in the op
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] CoolDevelopment:
If you make the sources aviable I will hell getting it booting
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] cinask:
Yes, I'm using I9105P
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] KINGbabasula:
This is just a port. It's obvious it's hard to get it booting. Compiling from source is much simpler

Inviato dal mio GT-I9070 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] cinask:
Flashed new build - same situation - stuck at samsung logo. Ithink CoolDevelopment and KINGbabasula could be really helpfull, if U share Your sources :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] KINGbabasula:
Lol there aren't sources. As i said this is just a port

Inviato dal mio GT-I9070 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
Of course this is a port, doesn't mean I can't get it booting;)
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Maurice5813:
also try flashing doing a full wipe
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] CoolDevelopment:
I got one booting, built from source but RIL doesn't work
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] cinask:
sorry, my mistake

---------- Post added at 10:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 PM ----------

i did a full wipe
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karankshah:
Hey guys,

I'm currently using one of the first ROM's that came out for the M7 - the GEonSense Rom - with (I think) the Bulletproof kernel for underclocking/BLN.

With 4.3's release and the additional S-Off stuff, I figured it might be good to get those going soon as well.

So, my question for you guys is this - which new rom should I flash?

What I'm looking for:

- AOSP lockscreen - why I went with GE on Sense in the first place

- stable - GEonSense has so far been rock-solid, without the random apps FC'ing

- everything working - I use the camera, the IR sensor, the bluetooth, the wifi, what not. I don't need cutting edge performance, but I need the various pieces of hardware working.

It's cool if there's not really anything that checks these boxes, but thanks for reading, and double thanks in advance for a response.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayndog3:
I've had my one for a month and have tried quite a few roms, but my favorite that I recently installed is the ViperOne rom, Its a sense rom. Don't know if it fits your needs, but its a very good rom, alot of customizing built in, check it out.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rossvtaylor:
I've only had my One for about 10 days, so I'm no expert. But I've been here on XDA since 2008 and just came from a DNA, so not too far off the mark. I've been playing with all the One ROMs I can find here and I've been really impressed with, and have settled on, the SinLess ROM for now. I may change, but it's got everything I want (except Zoe, since it's not Sense) and everything it does have works. I know you asked for Sense, so I'm probably not helping much, but I like Sense as well and I find I really like this GE ROM.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wicked Stunts:
i've had my one for a few months now and tested a lot of roms even kitkat ones. however theres always one rom i revert to every single time and that is Android Revolution HD 31.5 with the bulletproof kernal. very, very stable and definitely my favorite rom. no aosp lockscreen but it has sense.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1234d:
Well, Viper one has aosp lockscreen and sense 5.5, so go for it, you'll love the possibilities of what you can do
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] tflogic:
Hey guys,

So before I had my HTC One, I stuck around for about 2 years with my HTC Thunderbolt and that was one of the influencing factors in my choosing an HTC device. However, there is a big difference that in some way, my Thunderbolt has the upper hand on.

On my Thunderbolt, recoveries and backups only took about 5 minutes tops whereas on my HTC One, both functions take about an hour. Is this normal? It took that long when I originally made my first stock backup before root and even now while running the latest versions of both CWR and TWRP.

Is this hour duration normal? How long does it take for you guys?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] USMC retired:
none

Mine takes about 2-3 minutes usually. It would take someone with more knowledge than I to tell you why it's taking so long, but what your experiencing I wouldn't think is normal.

Sorry I can't help more
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] brholt6:
Yea, mine only takes 2-3 minutes as well...maybe 5 tops.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jerseymk2:
Depending on what I'm doing, I flashed back to my pre from back up and that took 5min. But if I need to flash one of my backups of either eclipse ge or vanir. Forget it it takes me an hour or an hour an a half ugh.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sacnotsack:
Depends on how many apps you have installed, call history size, text messages, everything that will write data will increase the size of your backups thus taking longer. From my personal experience using orange backup and Cwm is the fastest, takes about 10–15 minutes and I usually have a lot of apps installed.

Sent from the One and Only
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] tflogic:
For anyone who experiences long restores and backups in the future, here's what I did to bring back times back to "normal":

Factory reset via your current ROM.

Wipe data and cache in recovery.

Format SD Card in recovery.

Reflash ROM.

I probably should have done this as soon as I started experiencing these issues but it's all fixed now! Thanks everyone for letting me know that more than 15 minutes was off.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] tflogic:
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