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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dougdirt:
Wow, that is one glum post. Why even take the time to make that post if that's how you feel?

By the way, if you educate yourself at all, there really is no "possible disaster".
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hashcode:
You are 100% wrong. The leak for KK is especially exciting for VZW Note 3 users as it is still SElinux permissive AND allows for kernel modules to be loaded. I would avoid the official OTA to KK like the plague. But as for jumping onto the KK leak.. it might be the single most exciting thing to have happened to stock ROMs in recent history.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Well stated, as usual, [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION]

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rainabba:
There are also those out there who know how to root, make a backup with TB then update and restore mitigating all the risks that you're concerned about.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pltctytc:
blah blah blah

perhaps

i have been kingo rooted and tit b/up and have been flashing my own for years with cdmaws, odin, and dfs

verizon loves to lock down even more with every android update sometimes just not worth the time

no one needs a KK update

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yea i trust verizon and leaks 100%
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
While I appreciate your point of view, this really isn't the place for it. This is my firmware mirror, guide & technical Q&A thread in the development section. I'd love to help with any issue you run into in regards to those areas, otherwise there's a wide open general section for you to post opinions, etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rainabba:
It's virtually impossible to lose data or brick a phone anymore if you can follow directions and KK is worth the upgrade to anyone that knows anything about Android, Java VMs and performance OR that wants to be updated so they can do things like run the latest software.

As for your attempt at starting a pissing match; let's just say that I'd drown you and if you knew how to use Google, you'd already know that (try googling "rainabba android" or "rainabba alldroid").

If you think you know so well, go start a blog and tell the world what a little genius you are but there's no point in spewing your opinion as if it was fact or even relevant. It's noise and so is this reply which is why it will be my last on the subject. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pltctytc:
thank god who asked you anyway?

i already installed kk

best you get some anger management asap

and take the bullets out of your gun b4 someone gets hurt
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] weaverinva:
Is there a firmware flashable for MJE? There is one that contains only radio, bootloader and firmware for nc2 but what if I want to revert to an MJE custom rom? Do I have to use the full MJE rom? That will wipe my internal /data/media.

Any help for a down convert would be appreciated. Probably has been covered before.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Unfortunately, flashing the stock mje tar is the only way to go back to 4.3. Sorry, no shortcut.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
i just rooted and installed ss. can i install a custom rom like hyperdrive first instead of installing the stock rooted nc2 then flash firmware afterwards
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
I'm assuming you are on MJE currently & just rooted your 4.3 build and installed Safestrap 3.65? If so, then I'd recommend flashing the NC2 rooted leak build linked in my OP first, reboot to download mode from safestrap (without booting up after flashing NC2) and once in download mode, odin the firmware tar linked in the OP. The firmware tar is a one time thing.

Once you reboot after flashing the NC2 followed by odining the firmware, you just need to install the Kitkat version of Safestrap, v.3.72 and then you can flash whatever 4.4 rom you'd like. No firmware needed after that one going from 4.3 to 4.4.

I understand what you're hoping to do - just insert the Hyperdrive rom in the install procedure in place of the stock rooted nc2 leak - and that could work, but I haven't personally tried it so I can't recommend it. Also, when you think about the time you're adding to flash the stock build, install safestrap and install whatever other rom you'd like, it's really not worth risking. Ya know?

Let me know if you need any other help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
makes sense, do u have another mirror for the nc2 leak. it's been 3 hrs now and i think it just froze
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Unfortunately, no, that's my only mirror of it. I've had good reports on the download speed and it's been downloaded about 150 times now so I'm pretty sure the mirror is working. Might just be a slow moment for the server or your internet connection. You could always try Beans thread where it's hosted and see if it's any faster.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
i flashed the 3.72 recovery after flashing the lean nc2, rebooted and flashed the other rom i had, but now i'm in a bootloop
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Had you already flashed the nc2 & odined the KitKat firmware? 3.72 is only compatible with android 4.4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
i did that
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Ok, try powering off (with battery pull) then 3 button entering download mode (Power, Home & Volume Down) - then instead of pressing volume up to enter download mode, hit volume down and it should boot you back into the operating system. Once here, confirm that you're on android 4.4 by going to menu > settings > about phone. If you are on 4.4 (which means you successfully flashed the NC2 rom, check the "baseband" and make sure it ends in NC2 as well.

If those two things line up then you should be able to try removing and reinstalling safestrap 3.72. From there, first thing I'd do is make a backup in safestrap. It may give you trouble, if it doesn't complete the first time, reboot and try to backup again. Remember safestrap for kitkat is still in beta. Once you have a backup of the stock nc2 then go ahead and try flashing whatever other 4.4 rom you'd like via the instructions in that rom's OP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
i tried hitting down to reboot, but it still won't boot into the os. when i was in the os i did confirm i was on nc2, but didn't check the baseband for the same.

i tried reflashing the firmware and still nogo
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Well, if that trick to try to get it to boot doesn't work there's really only one recourse - actually enter download mode and odin the stock MJE tar, root it and install safestrap 3.65. From there you can carefully follow the instructions in the OP to go to NC2 again and you should land safely on Kit Kat.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ucpro:
i don't understand what i did wrong. i flash roms on my siii all the time. i rooted mje, installed 3.65 safestrap. installed the nc2 leak, installed firmware, let nc2 load and confirmed that i was on nc2 4.4.2, installed the 3.72 recovery, and the new rom i had.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
I'm not sure either, did you do a full wipe (data, cache & dalvic) before flashing both the NC2 & your subsequent 4.4 rom? That is a necessary step before each rom is flashed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chefb:
hey guys & gals

I've had my note since Verizon been selling it, and never rooted cuz to me the phone was fine as is and was rootable.

here is my question... what will our options be moving forward? for example when the next operating system comes out how will we install it if we are running a unofficial leaked version? will this leak leave us handicapped , or in a position of advantage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Well, the NC4 build is currently rolling out to Verizon Note 3 devices via OTA but there's no known root exploit for it currently. We have a leaked build that is nearly identical, NC2, that is rooted and has no bootloader increment so you can go back and forth from 4.3 to 4.4. This is a very special build - it's linked in the OP with instructions on how to get to that build. If you're looking to upgrade, I'd highly recommend taking that route as if you were to take the OTA there's no guarantee that or subsequent builds would ever have a root exploit found.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chefb:
so basically this is the end of the line for the note3...the s5 is not rooted? and they totally locked down the galaxy line?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chefb:
Ok....but really tell me how you feel....lol badass response!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tenyrnote:
I am on Beans' NC2 leaked and would like to flash the NC4 radio (modem). I am away from my laptop and have some time to kill at the moment. Is is possible to DL the modem and flash without Odin, and more importantly is the NC4 radio compatible with what I have on my device currently?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Unfortunately, safestrap cannot flash modems or kernels - one of the main downfalls of our locked bootloader. So, you'd need a computer to use Odin. Yes, nc4's modem is compatible.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tenyrnote:
So I DL the NC4 zip and unzipped the TAR file and opened Odin 3.9, Where do I place the file in the Odin screen? and then do I just hit start? Its been a while.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
I believe it's the cp slot

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mjh68:
Ap slot[emoji6]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
That may be, I'm on vacation away from a computer so I can't check. Thanks if I was wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
AP slot. Did it about a week ago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] eXtreme Burrito!:
I flashed the NC4 modem and I feel like I'm getting noticably worse service than I did on NC2.

I'm in the library at school and have gotten some frequent "Don't have service to send text message" notices where I never got them with NC2.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Very possible, modems are going to respond differently for each device & area. You can try out any of the others listed in the OP - find the one that gives you the best results & stick with it

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
Got that message a few times since switching to either NC2 or NC4 modem. Just flashed back to MJE as I never used to get that message at spots I normally frequent.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] eXtreme Burrito!:
Are you only running the MJE modem? Or did you go back to MJE as a whole?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LeftyGR:
Not speaking for him, but probably the modem. Remember. . . Every phone is a snowflake. What works well for one may not for another. Try what is available and see what works best for you!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
Yes, just the modem. Running latest HyperDrive which is based on the T Mobile kit kat release.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] PapaDocta:
could someone please upload the NC4 OTA file ... i have been searching for it all over the web with no luck finding it...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] weaverinva:
I went to the NC2 build properly and was running Hyperdrive with SS 3.72 beta. But then I decided I wanted to go back to MJE to run a more stable rom Eclipse. Perhaps I messed up but what I did was to go to download mode and odin the MJE full rom from the OP. I forgot to deinstall safe strap. Is that a problem?

Seems to have come up okay but when I try Kingo root it says unsupported but I had used it before.

Any comments on the steps for this process greatly appreciated!! Did I need to deinstall safe strap? Nothing is tripped. All looks normal.

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Okay; never mind. My computer must have been busy or something with the timing. I re odin'd back to MJE and ran Kingo 1.1.2. It worked perfectly. It seemed that with Kingo 1.1.8, it didn't work the first time and then it would not root 3 times after that first attempt.

All is well now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
You did everything correctly - by using odin to flash the MJE tar you overwrote the safestrap anyway so no need to uninstall. You've probably run into the problem lots have had with the latest version of Kingo not working - I have an older version that works great, just rooted MJE myself after coming back from KK about a week ago. Download from here: http://d-h.st/mW2

Ah, I see you figured out the new version problem - glad you got it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] weaverinva:
I bet it was that I was using 1.1.8 Kingo. The 1.1.2 seems to do the trick.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thejron:
Man this nc4 modem has been a total bust for me. Dropped 4G constantly along with slow speeds
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] weaverinva:
No gps after going back to mje

Sorry my Android app was acting up.

Okay, so I have a problem with GPS after flashing back to MJE from nc2 running hyper drive 8. I have odin'd twice and tried Eclipse, MJE, and hyper drive 7. The gps does not see any satellites on any of them. I am worried gps will not work until I go back to an nc2 based rom.

Anyone have any ideas?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ShaunWinSC:
Is there a rooted version of MJE to flash back to from NC2?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Hey man, didn't see your post until now. If you Odin'd MJE from NC2 you should have the MJE firmware and baseband back in place & that set has always had decent GPS for me and many others. I'd recommend downloading this app from the play store GPS TEST - if it still shows no satellites when you're outdoors then hit menu > settings and tap "clear AGPS" then tap "Update AGPS." Hopefully that should help.

No, MJE can't be pre-rooted by the wizardry beans accomplished with NC2 - you'll have to use Kingo and an old version. You can get it from my dev host here: http://d-h.st/mW2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] moejoe88:
Don't know if anyone here has seen my post in the troubleshooting section, but I'm on MJE hyperdrive and am getting horrible 4G LTE coverage. Does anyone think flashing some of the other modems or builds would help? I also have an S4 and running a speedtest at the same time with both phones, the S4 gets over double the DL speed. I really like the Note and would hate to get rid of it, but somethings got to give! Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Highly recommend flashing other modems. They work differently for every device & area - I've heard good things about NC2 & NC4 but I use MJE. All the files are linked in the OP. Download and unzip (if necessary) then place the modem tar file in the AP slot - leave all the settings like they are and plug your phone in once in download mode, click start and you're good.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] moejoe88:
Thanks for getting back to me so quick. I'll give it a shot this weekend. Fingers crossed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] weaverinva:
Thank you. I have that app on my phone already. Silly me, I needed to be outdoors in the clear sky. It works and tracks fine outside.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ZackFearheart:
I tried going to the NC2 ROM, coming from Hyper Drive... I got the files downloaded, wiped dalvik, data caches per instructions... Flashed the ROM, Went good... Booted into ODIN mode, ODIN on my pc recognized my Phone, tried putting the file in the PDA section (Haven't used ODIN in a very long time, and couldn't find the "instructions below" part) and it said failed. Couldn't write or something. I noticed in ODIN mode it says Write protection - Enabled

How do I fix this?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Couldn't see anything wrong with your procedure there. I'd download a newer version of Odin though - it's linked in the OP. On my version you put the firmware tar in the "ap" slot. I think that is the pda slot on older Odin but I'm not sure. I'd recommend downloading my updated Odin that has the newer slot names & then following this video to be sure: How to install KitKat Android 4.4.2 on the Verizo…: http://youtu.be/KibHLs0l9hs

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BigMcGuire:
Is there any disadvantage to NOT using NC2/NC4? I get much better reception and speed with MJE where I live. NC2 is the worst, NC4 is livable but still not anywhere near MJE.

Since we're GSM (LTE) we don't need to worry about NC2 and NC4 having a better PRL list, right? That was the CMDA past, right?

I noticed that the NC2 modem is 72mb and MJE is 50mb... that's a big difference.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Nope, no disadvantage I'm aware of, I am using mje too for the same reason. Wouldn't stress it.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jhenderson019:
Best route to new KK ROMs from MJ7?

It's been several months since I've done any ROMing, and wanted to know the best route to get to the newer KK ROMs from rooted stock MJ7. I am running SafeStrap 3.71.

Do I have to Odin to MJE first? Or flash straight to a KK ROM? Anything else I need to consider?

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Instructions are in the OP under "How to upgrade to the leaked 4.4.2 kitkat build". You should be good to do it on 3.71 safestrap even though I recommend the more stable 3.65 version. Files needed are also near the top of the OP. Nothing really new lately to consider before getting started. Enjoy & let me know if you need anymore help.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GameChanger:
I can't seem to get the NC4 modem to work. It fails everytime in SS 3.72. I am currently on HD8 with NC2.

Any ideas?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
HD8? I'm not familiar with what you're talking about there.

Also, you must use Odin to flash the modems, unzip it and put the tar file in the AP slot of Odin. We can't flash modems in safestrap because of our locked bootloader.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GameChanger:
Thanks. Thats my problem... I am trying through SS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rezokrazy22:
Hello, I'm on NC2 firmware on BajaRom. My phone has been acting up lately and i would like to give myself a clean start. Would I have to go all the way back to MJE or is the a way to just go back to NC2? If you help please give steps, don't have to be too detailed I just didn't think I'd ever have to do this so i never really looked upon the process.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
No, not necessary at all to return to 4.3 MJE. Just boot into safestrap and do a data, cache & dalvic cache wipe (this is that wipe that is queued up for you when entering the wipe menu of SS). If you reboot at this point you'd be in a stock Baja rom. You could also flash whatever other rom you'd like in the same safestrap session.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] vick1377:
Guys sorry if it's been asked. It's been a while I took the ota and upgraded. I'm still on mje rooted running beans rom kit kat themed. I remember having to reroot before when I tool the ota. I would have to do the same again before taking ota for 4.4.2 leaked. I would loose root and have to reroot right or no:).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
No, thanks to [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION]'s amazing work we have a stock rooted 4.4.2 build that is pre-rooted. You won't need Kingo, Vroot or towel root to get onto kitkat and retain root. The instructions & files needed to do this are at the top of the OP of this thread, always a good idea to read there first. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] vick1377:
Cool. I want to keep my root though and safe strap so I can have multiple slots lol for diff roms. Let me go through the steps. It's been months I have been on this forum :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
You'll still have root by following the instructions in the OP but, just so you know, the kitkat version of safestrap doesn't have full support for slots yet. It's very stable though overall and has some bug fixes since jellybean version, like correct date and time info on backups. :good:

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] vick1377:
Oh ok. Will try soon before this weekend or tonight if I get spare time. The multiple slots feature with safestral is the god:). Having an option to keep multiple roms in diff slots is pretty neat especially keeping one slot just with stock so you can take ota updates if needed not thay I will ever need.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
Sorry if this has been answered, but will kingo root my note 3 on the NC4 ota without issue?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
No, you'll need towel root for NC2 or NC4. Google it, you'll find it easily. It's a literal one-click.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
Okay, thanks! Once I am rooted using that, how easy is it to install a custom recovery? I'm not new to rooting, just new to verizon and all this Knox and locked bootloader stuff. I appreciate your help!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Recovery is actually very easy as well. We have safestrap recovery thanks to [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] - he just said in his thread that he'll be pushing another update very soon so watch for that here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2517610

He has clear instructions in the OP, it's actually an app you install that installs the recovery for you, pretty nifty!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
Also, what ROM are you running?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
I've bounced between many. As of late I've been running Baja & Eclipse. Eclipse is an AOSP / Touchwiz merge with a lot of actual AOSP code and pure google apps, such as the new dialer, mms, etc. Baja is a heavily themed TW rom with a ton of features/mods built in - it's a very active and mellow thread with great guys. [MENTION=4854133]bajasur[/MENTION] is an awesome guy personally & he and his collaborators have put together a great TW rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
I was looking into Baja ROM, but was unsure if I could install it being on NC4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Right, that's a good question. I'd recommend asking in the ROM threads to give the actual Developers a crack at that one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
I did. They don't respond as quickly as you lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
:D Let me see what I can stir up for ya'
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
Appreciate all your help!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
I've got a direct line to the Baja Rom Dev (told ya' he's a good cat ;) ) - he said you can but you need to downgrade your kernel to NC2. Simple as booting to download mode and flashing the file found in [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION]'s thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2787627 -- You want the "NC2 KERNEL DOWNLOAD" file. You may have to unzip it after downloading, it should be a tar file. I haven't done this myself but it's pretty basic stuff. This will allow you to run NC2 based roms. Enjoy!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] orangemonster:
Will it be a .tar.md5 file? Or just .tar
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DutchDogg54:
Since I haven't done it myself I'm not sure. Probably tar.md5 but either would work.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Nidisa:
Unable to download NC2 tar .zip files

Title says it all. All links in the OP of this thread and Bean's thread to download the NC2 file are shot...for me. "Unknown network failure" every time. I can download any other file from the same sites, but not the NC2 file.

Any help from anyone?? I'm looking for the odexed file.

TIA for any help getting that file so I can get to KITKAT!!