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[G2 General] marleyinoc:
I think you have that backwards only because small change would probably internally be looked at as easy cred to users whereas larger change is likely going to troop their cost/benefit calculators.

If anyone other than Play Devices gets this right they'll be selling top end devices hand over fist, I would think. But that's only tangibly related to Kit Kat for G2 and quite the dead horse anyway.

This is an awesome phone and if they get updates right I can see myself buying LG from now on. The 4.4, 4.4.1, 4.4.2 cycle makes me think maybe some delay was and always will be justified anyway. I didn't feel that way a couple months ago though :)
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
If small updates for cred would be looked up upon LG would have rushed 4.2 for OG and 4.3 for G2. But now they are working or testing 4.4 for a ton of their phones, and I assume that is because 4.4 is a "larger" version update.
[G2 General] marleyinoc:
True but at least a major update is expected. Seems timing wise this is the perfect time for that. Although the OG does trip up my rational. They're over due something/anything... But is the build similar enough that they'd be delayed for 4.4.2? Yeah, I'm reaching now...

/slips back into shadows
[G2 General] jiteshj:
How can you compare it with S3...

Its way smoother than S4 running any damn version of Android :mad:
[G2 General] Trina9:
Since I've never owned a GS4, and just upgraded from a, GS3, I'll have to take your word for it.
[G2 General] votinh:
Even though I love my G2, but your statement isn't correct.

My G2 with bone-stock still has stuttering issue once in a while.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I think he was just trying to point out that give android version isn't a big deal. But yeah it isn't practical to compare to an s3 because of the major spec difference. Even the s4 has not as good cpu.
[G2 General] Trina9:
It was meant as a response for the comment about 4.4 running smooth then what's in the phone right now. I would love to see 4.3 because there's some apps I can't run compared to my old SG3.
[G2 General] autom8r:
Have we received any recent updates for the d803? Thanks!
[G2 General] muppetmaster916:
I'm guessing that if kit Kat is the last official update we get there's a good chance we'll get ports from whatever builds the g3 gets
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Oh yeah I forgot about that. I knew there were nexus 5 ports to the nexus 4 that worked perfectly fine without much editing done.
[G2 General] hamad138:
I came from a nexus 4 4.4 ART,

So i can withness lag on lg g2
[G2 General] Pyloge:
Dude think about s2 or s3...
[G2 General] muppetmaster916:
Valid point, I had the s3 on vzw, but it's still getting dev love, and got 4.3 official from 4.0.4...anyway just a thought, hopefully we'll see an official update past KK if not a port would be cool...if not then f**k it and get a new phone or run aosp

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Kind of hard to base off of that though, nexus to nexus is a different story, hopefully the g3 is running a snapdragon making it's roms easier to port, and whatever else contributes to easy porting, I'm no dev
[G2 General] Pyloge:
You said we wont receive official updates later kitkat, but i think we will see 5.0. Because LG wants big piece from cake.

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[G2 General] muppetmaster916:
I didn't say that, just saying that IF we didn't get another after KK we'd be alright with ports hopefully.
[G2 General] BackDaws:
Slap cm11 on the g2 if you want to see your phone fly!

Personally I prefer bells a a whistles over speed, I love flashy animations over the bland stock look of android :)

I used to love HTC sense right up to sense 4 but now its cut down and pointless, the distinctive HTC clock and animated weather was the bollocks, I love the lg animated weather in the lock screen but ffs it's buggy and only works if it's sunny or raining lol
[G2 General] muppetmaster916:
Agreed
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Doesn't cm11 have issues current because they don't have official source or something like that? There's random reboots and sod reports a lot. I wouldn't mind running aosp but I still want official source so aosp roms will improve (hopefully)
[G2 General] autom8r:
I think you're totally right. With HTC saying all of their phones will get updates guaranteed for two years, the rest of the industry will have to step up their games too...
[G2 General] realeze:
Pretty sure HTC just promising major updates to their forthcoming flagship devices only, not current flagships and definitely not all of their phones.

We can hope this makes other vendors follow suit but I would doubt it. Do all our cars have 10 year warranties now?
[G2 General] citytrader:
Slap CM11 if you want your phone full of issues, CM11 is pure crap at the moment and is crap even for OPPO N1 and is official for that phone, OPPO has much less battery life with CM compared with stock.
[G2 General] thebehemoth73:
I will never buy a HTC again..I bought a HTC one x in hopes that it would at least get sense 5 and it didn't even get that.
[G2 General] hamad138:
neever buy nvidia chipset, not htc fault , its tegra3 fault
[G2 General] vPro97:
Good news (I hope). Phonearena.com announced that 3 new LG devices will be launched soon, all running kitkat. As I mentioned earlier, I tvivl Google put pressure on OEMs to deliver new phone with the latest software. Anyway, we are now in the middle of Q1 and the kitkat update isn't far away. I hope it will bring new features
[G2 General] prfraczek:
yup from one wall to another :D

- crap audio drivers

- unfortunately email app has stopped etc.

- pick-up when ringing- youu i'm trying but...
[G2 General] bobsie41:
Good point except for the fact that it did get sense 5. ;)

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Not sure if this is good thing. LG appear to be banging out the devices but surely, if they concentrated more effort into their current flagship/s it would be top of the sales tree above Samsung and LG's flagships.

The LG G2 is a beautiful device with sales well behind the HTC one and miles behind the galaxy s4. Something is wrong here. I'm no business genius but it is obvious to me what that is.
[G2 General] BackDaws:
it can't be that bad if they have a milestone version :)
[G2 General] leonardomagno:
Cm11 is the best ROM forma my g2 battery and effect butter is great

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[G2 General] nms247:
And it did get Sense 5
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
http://www.mobilebloom.com/the-verizon-lg-g2-android-receiving-4-4-kitkat-in-march/2243036/

If the Verison model will get it in March...so i think we will get it soon...
[G2 General] 3thman:
I'm using CM11 on my LG G2 and it is completely awesome with no issues perfectly smooth and fantastic battery life. stable more than stock

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I'm using CM11 on my LG G2 and it is completely awesome with no issues perfectly smooth and fantastic battery life. stable more than stock
[G2 General] autom8r:
No HTC promised updates for all flagship phones, including recent ones that already exist.

The G2 is very much an active flagship, so it's not going to be dropped for the next round to be considered...

And you're comparison is flawed. Almost all of these phones cost the same or a very similar amount, not so much with cars. Also, cars have a wide variety of different parts, most of these phones use the same parts. So, your comparison is not a good one.

You'll see, it will happen. Competition is stepping up now that Samsung is in retreat and it looks like they have no magic solution to their declines. LG is looking to snap up large market share from Samsung.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
If that is the case with LG then they need to start looking after their present customers so as to gain customer loyalty rather than banging out new device after new device if they wish to succeed. It would appear at the moment that device support is lagging behind other oem's which, IMO is not the long term way forward.
[G2 General] citytrader:
Yes I know that kind of comments, at the end results that I'm the only one having issues like GPS not working, audio horrible, problems in 3G, etc, etc... no way, I wont install any AOxP anymore, there is nothing better than stock at the moment.

For the people that say battery is excelent in CM, check this link and compare with stock:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-oppo-n1-battery-life-test/

For the people that have a LG G2 DRONE version because their phone "fly", run MobileXPRT UX test benchmark and show me a difference between a custom and my phone stock rom 4.2.2 and custom kernel:

My phone results (pure stock+custom kernel (no UV/OC)): 59 59 53 59 54 (LIST SCROLL, GRID SCROLL, GALLERY SCROLL, BROWSER SCROLL, ZOOM AND PITCH)

For the people that have Kitkat, please run MobileXPRT UX Test to see the difference.
[G2 General] 3thman:
I have had the stock ROM and now I have CM11 and I can tell you battery is much better with CM11

can you tell me how your battery life is with stock and a custom kernel ?
[G2 General] citytrader:
Battery life is something unique for each user, my phone varies between 1 day and 13 hours to 2 days and 1 hour, but depends on my usage: mostly skype calls (3G most of the time), GPS, some whatsapp, web navigation, mixed between 3G and WIFI, some phone calls.

Most issues of stock kernel are solved in custom kernel like the bluetooth problems and taking in consideration that I saw in Loki github that the new Kitkat is not possible to root at the moment, I don think my phone will get Kitkat shortly...

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki/issues/31#issuecomment-32091834
[G2 General] 3thman:
so what custom kernel do you use ?
[G2 General] citytrader:
Dorimanx with default values.
[G2 General] realeze:
No, you're wrong... it is upcoming flagships and NA region only:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1xxjfx/hi_were_the_htc_usa_product_team_amaa/

My comparison is not a good one? The cars carrying the 10 year warranty are all competitively priced within their segment (if not lower priced) and the company was a fringe outlier at the time it started the promotion (much like HTCs position in the industry.

You might be right and all companies may follow suit... but HTC as a whole isn't even on the same page yet...
[G2 General] android404:
When somebody who's not on xda compares phones to buy a new one, do you guys seriously believe that he gives a s*** about which version upgrade those phones will get and when? Forget about it. The average user doesn't know which version he runs at any given time. I can imagine people comparing and thinking "4.4. sounds better than 4.2" but nobody outside xda ever thought to himself "wonder if it will get 4.5 in September or in December...".

I have said this before in this thread: there's a billion android users, maybe a billion and a half, on the other side there's 6 million xda members, half of which don't care about "the next version". Why would any company try to please the 0.3% that feel the need to get kitkat two months earlier, instead of releasing it when it's done? Why do you expect any official updates anyway? How many other products do you own that are "shown some love" by its manufacturers on a regular basis for free?
[G2 General] abdel12345:
It's not free. We paid for the phone. I see ios getting updated to ios7 and everyone cares about that. How can you coating k no one that's not on dad cares about version of android? I work part time at a phone shop and one of the big questions people ask is" does it have the newest software" Or something like that. A lot of people don't care but there are still many who do.

I do agree with your point About being early or whatever. It'd make, more sense to release whenever it's ready. But it should get an update. Ps3 and Xbox 360 also constantly got updates with improvements.
[G2 General] Trina9:
Apple, and I hate them, does have a great way to update phones. IMO, Android is trying but they need to find a way to get the official updates to ALL of the phones with certain specs that can run them without the carriers holding updates. We waited forever for Sprint to push the official ICS update to the EVO 3D when it was running with no issues everywhere else.
[G2 General] chaki-:
Even if HTC brings two years support, that doesn't mean they would recover. They should done that long ago. Now when the others rise from the ashes they will fall like the tower of Babylon :D
[G2 General] robin786:
Just remember this guys, S3 was a flagship phone for Samsung & only received it's update from 4.1 to 4.3 after almost 2 years. LG G2 already has 4.2.2 at release & planned release of KitKat (whatever version that be) at hand.

If I was someone who is into latest OS update, I'd buy Nexus 5 or iPhone, not buy a LG or other manufacturers phone & rant it out like I was outcast coz other phones are getting updates & mine was not.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] abdel12345:
People need to stop song buy a nexus if you want the latest android. Honestly is getting old. The nexus phones just don't match up to other flagships. I had a nexus 5 And the battery was really under powered. The g2 is much better on that And I'd like to have a good phone that gets updated. That's not too much to ask. I don't care how long it takes as long as they get it done in a reasonable time. If kitkat comes by,march I'll be fine with that. It's not necessary right away but it would suck to not get it at all and I'm sure lots of others would agree. Kitkat brings done useful changed especially immersive mode and it'll also help improve aosp roms if we have the official source
[G2 General] prking07:
Fyi, sgs3 came with 4.0, and got updates to 4.1 and 4.3 and it is confirmed for 4.4.
[G2 General] mikkis2k:
Well, KITKAT was released for LG G2 long ago :) It's just the international versions that are slow. So i don't see the problem? And yes a Nexus device is the only way to go, for the latest updates. This is because.. Google themselves are responsible for the updating. While other manufactors have custom UI's and the stuff that they use. Wich takes time, I honestly don't see the problem .. Would be nice to have KIKAT on my D802 Europe Open. But i got all the time in the world. And 4.2.2 is great so far, so i'm fine.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
I agree with you completely.
[G2 General] MazdaGTI:
Is this LG G2 Kitkat thread in G2 forum or somekind overall thread for all models? Links for HTC and Samsung pages don´t mach to this thread. Why the hell needs person, who wants information about G2 Kitkat, read hundreds of post about bull**** what don´t mach to topic?
[G2 General] Fauert:
I too agree , it would be nice to have KITKAT on my D802 Europe Open , but i run with @Cloudyfa "CloudyFlex 1.3" , which is a SUPERB ROM, i can easily stay with that , AND enjoying my LG-G2 ... SUPER FAST , snappy and really gooood batterylife. :good: :highfive:
[G2 General] gm007:
The update will come next week :p
[G2 General] jiteshj:
So are you mother of God?
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
I think kitkat is coming next week wooooohaaaaa...
[G2 General] Phoost:
LG does a very good job in upgrading the G2 flagship.

I bought my F320 some month ago. It starts with a 11 firmware with four different build numbers. Then 20 came with 2 (or 3 ?). No we are at 21 (kitkat 4.4.2). Approximatly one new firmware per month. Great.

By the way. I don't understand the kitkat hype. I'm still on an non kitkat version. With kitkat I have a lot of problems with App's, root, SD card and so one. The old firmware is realy great and I don't miss any kitkat feature.

I'm still waiting 2 or 3 month before I'll try it again.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Why would it be coming next week?
[G2 General] Haseeb123:
Don't think anyone outside the US buys carrier modified devices. Here we buy the I international devices from LG and we should get updates from LG not from any carriers.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
The next week gonna be Barselona MWC and unveiling of G Pro 2, L 40, L70, L90 to the wide crowd. And probably LG will unleash KK for G2 and OG Pro. I hope
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Og Pro is staying on 4.1.2 I thought:confused:
[G2 General] Xenovias:
Impossible

Even L7II will get kitkat
[G2 General] votinh:
You meant the quick update (like the 10q for AT&T version) will come next week?

Let's see.
[G2 General] dondavis007:
My HTC one has gotten 6 updates since I bought it and two major versions I think, so come on LG.

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[G2 General] OrionBG:
Maybe a little off topic but just a thought... The best thing that can happen to us is LG to release a Google Play Edition of the G2. I know that the Nexus 5 is pretty similar but still it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the G2, neither the design.
[G2 General] hamad138:
I swear htc became amazinf regarding updates
[G2 General] shriom_manerker:
that wont happen. g2 is almost similar to nexus 5 (leaving out the ois camera and the mp of it along with the battery capacity). they're very identical . hmmm maybe developing sources could be a bit easier. we could use some sources from n5 ! hmmm..
[G2 General] marleyinoc:
Pretty sure n5 hardware isn't anywhere near as close to g2 as it was on last nexus. Or so I've read a few times. Is funny that I once more didn't get a nexus but swear next time I will... And now they're saying Nexus program may be ending...

Google Play Editions from now on? Maybe so.

Still glad I got this phone. Come on official 4.4.2!!!!

Although I'm on a popular nightly and things are pretty sweet so I may stop following this thread as much. :) just kidding!
[G2 General] chaki-:
I hope that custom roms will be more stable. Simply because i doubt that 4.4 will be battery friendly. Kinda don't understand why always updates with android suck the battery.....
[G2 General] remio33:
Great news ! The SFR French carrier have just said that the KitKat update will arrive the 28 of february so our d802 will get the update the same day or surely before ! During the MWC !
[G2 General] smederevoboy:
news source?
[G2 General] kapybarus:
Man, some aosp custom roms have same screen battery life as stock. It couldn t be worse. But some one from korea could already compare battery lifes.
[G2 General] remio33:
It's a french official SFR carrier site

http://smartphones.sfr.fr/android/lg-g2-vers-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
[G2 General] smederevoboy:
sicabyialso

Nice news :laugh::laugh:
[G2 General] SNaReX:
If this is true, 10 days to go for 4.4.2 which is 28th of February.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Awesome! Then US carriers should get it released by march then since they love to add bloat to everything :p
[G2 General] hamad138:
what about international version? Arre they faster than Carriers?
[G2 General] Arkorium:
If this is true, then it's great news :)

I'm not getting my hopes up though, they've made inaccurate statements about the Kit Kat update before :/

Having been subscribed to them before, I don't trust SFR ^^
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Yeah. International will probably get it At a similar time or before the 28th since that's when the French carrier is releasing it and the International version comes straight from lg I think? But not sure on that
[G2 General] hamad138:
Dam guy who said next week was right omg hahah
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Yeah you're right. I saw a article saying they said it would release earlier ans now they're saying this so I guess we'll have top wait and see
[G2 General] hamad138:
Did u know this or just a guess fron u
[G2 General] Br1ce:
This is a picture taken by the french carrier SFR. After all they might really have it ready for us :)
[G2 General] remio33:
Your right but before it was supposition while this time it's an affirmation !
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I'm really hoping this is it! It won't be too hard to get it working on us carrier versions so we won't have top wait for them. And that picture ads some credibility

I didn't see that tool now. I just checked the article ans noticed at the bottom
[G2 General] hamad138:
Its on official SFR site, so take that as 98% confirmed
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
I told that is coming next week....hahaaaaaaa...

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http://www.androidsas.com/2014/01/lg-g2-kitkat-update-in-testing-phase.html#.UwF1vMI1PT4.twitter

Another news........i guess it is confirmed...
[G2 General] vPro97:
http://smartphones.sfr.fr/android/lg-g2-vers-android-4-4-2-kitkat/

wasn't hard to find. google, guys!
[G2 General] remio33:
Wich news in KitKat ?
[G2 General] vPro97:
nothing major, but this should sum it up:

White icons in statusbar

Immersive mode

ART

(RUMOR): Better camera

(RUMOR): New UI (IDK if this will bring a split-view feature like the G Flex, but I doubt it)

Improved performance

(Even) better battery life.
[G2 General] votinh:
It said Feb 28th.

By the 27th, they pull down and apologize for false alarm.

LOL :D
[G2 General] napsterr:
maybe KNOCK CODE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhTzROvGN-A
[G2 General] Haseeb123:
Which phone is that?
[G2 General] OptimusRs:
Read The Video Title Dude :P

Its LG G PRO 2
[G2 General] Arkorium:
That's what I'm expecting ^^

Back in December SFR promised KitKat, last month same promise and yet here we are…

As much as I'd like to believe them it does contradict what LG_France 's twitter account posted, stating that we'd get our sweet treat in late March.

Then again with the Korean version having KitKat for a few weeks now, what is LG waiting for ?

If they add stuff like Knock Code that would be really nice, I wouldn't mind waiting a little for that :)
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
Koreans beta test the firmwares, thats why they get so many updates,
[G2 General] :
Guys what do you think will we get the knock code in kitkat?:)
[G2 General] hamad138:
No im sure we wont
[G2 General] :
Due the marketing?:(
[G2 General] Arkorium:
That's true, but the Korean soak test for 4.4 was done in december and the official Korean 4.4 firmware seeded around the 1st of this month (or so I heard). Late March is over a month away from that so what's the hold up ? Especially considering that the Korean update didn't seem to bring that much more than just the KitKat improvements, no exciting new feature really :/
[G2 General] hamad138:
ART,TRIMM,Immersive Mode,3rd Party launcher transparent bars, better performance with reduced lags

I think it will polish the G2 even morr
[G2 General] garwynn:
Hallo hallo...

http://device.sprintpcs.com/LG/LS980-SPRINT/latest

:D

(No, source is not out yet so don't go looking for it just yet.)
[G2 General] remio33:
We'll just have a better G2 !
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
We will have better AOSP Roms :D

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] Haseeb123:
What's the difference in KnockOn and Knock code? Don't we already have KnockOn on our G2s?
[G2 General] kapybarus:
I think it is unlocking phone with knocking on the screen. Like some gesture or pin password.
[G2 General] InsanePostman:
the chipset is identical. the screens are not, the camera is not, and battery are not. three big features if you ask me.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
+1
[G2 General] easyguy:
LGG2 getting kitkat is cool and stuff, but it doesn't have what the LG G Pro 2 has. I'm more excited when someone port the LG G Pro 2 rom over to LG G2, like they did with the Flex phone. Hopefully it is possible.

4K recording, 120FPS!!!!! knock code!!!
[G2 General] garyd9:
AT&T (d800) LG G2 kitkat will be released on Feb 29th, 2014 only. :laugh:
[G2 General] vPro97:
dont be so sure about 4k recording and 120 fps. IIRC the camera is not capable of that.
[G2 General] easyguy:
Damn thought it was the software that was restricting it.
[G2 General] votinh:
LOL :D
[G2 General] :
indeed one day, after that youre screwed
[G2 General] Hid3rs:
Doesn't the Note 3 have the same Sony Exmor RS IMX135 sensor? Sammy is indeed capable of 4k recording and 120fps@720p.