yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 General] kennypow3rs:
Damn so they ship this phone with 4.2, don't give us 4.3, give users 4.4 and take away core 4.4 features lol. LG is a joke..

After I left my HTC one I thought LG would be the company that would change my opinion about carrier and manufacturer skins/devices. Seems to me one can ONLY and SHOULD get a device directly from Google from now on.
[G2 General] realeze:
You are angry because 4.4 doesn't turn your LG G2 into a beefed-up Nexus 5?
[G2 General] lfmmoura:
Google is your friend... ;)

http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/

Wife's phone has never even been rooted, let alone flashed with a different ROM. It's already received TWO Kitkat ROM updates. The latest happened earlier this week. The only devices waiting are the carrier-specific ones, which according to this status page are likely waiting for the carriers to pack their load of crap in the ROMs.

I wish LG had a similar page with status information. It'd be quite handy. HTC surely learned their lessons from their Nexus times. Samsung seems to have taken a few clues as well.

Right now, one would have hoped LG would have done the same, considering this is their second Nexus device.
[G2 General] emprize:
just curious how would it be? while plenty of AOSP 4.4 kitkat rom available now.

Or u mean it is hard for LG but easy for unofficial developer?
[G2 General] Redshark976:
Dude, what sources do you have?

1.) ART is still in the LG STOCK 4.4 ROM.. , you just have to enable DEV settings bij tapping software build in the setting tab..

2.) 4.4 core = less RAM , seems weird if that wouldn't be better with the G2 + the fact that play services consume less battery in 4.4

3.) Camera-software is still the same in 4.4 that's right, be I've read that it has beter ISO values en it takes faster PICS.
[G2 General] jiteshj:
FYI, it doesn’t have ART

LG G2
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
They aren't bug free. Lots of features missing, lg had to make sure all theirs work as perfect as possible. Then they have to test them and get it accepted by Google and other stuff so they can have Google apps and push updates.
[G2 General] NaveenKumarXDA:
Atleast signing & sharing Petition will not harm anyone. Please do it.

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/lg-release-official-android-updates-for-flagship-devices
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
very good work of houstonn
[G2 General] kcharng:
If this happens to be true, I sware this will be my last LG device outside of nexus.
[G2 General] citytrader:
Me too and will never buy an LG product, I dont even like the LG support, they put people without acknowledge and when you ask about the update they dont know, at the moment I will keep my phone as long as other companies release a phone with the same battery life.

The phone is great but the clear problem of LG is the management, incompetent people, that's all.

I think is a very good idea to sign the petition
[G2 General] Norside:
So this means that offical 4.4 is on the way?
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Official 4.4? LOL

LG G2
[G2 General] xdafoundingmember:
I heard that it's coming around nevuary
[G2 General] :
I saw it somewhere on Houstonn's post about SlimBean. Don't remember where exactly, but look in the forum post on SlimBean, Carbon, etc.

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Is this still in internal testing? When can we expect this to be out?
[G2 General] nickelfault:
Houstonn compiled PA with 4.4. Here's the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502789. Working beautifully on my d803.
[G2 General] -JFK-:
I can't see it.

Edit : got it : http://downloads.codefi.re/houstonn/me/test/
[G2 General] SuperSport:
Houstonn's 4.4 is AWESOME on the G2! Best of all worlds, Hardware, Software, Battery, etc... It's just Plain KitKit, exactly like I like it.
[G2 General] takethecake:
I just flashed the Gummy 4.4 build tonight (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2535326). Pretty sweet. It still has some bugs (gps & bluetooth are iffy, taking video, youtube are problematic), but I'm having a tough time convincing myself to go back to CM 10.2
[G2 General] Gnarfsan:
I haven't had much luck with AOSP based ROMs on my Samsung phones. But for whatever reason, they seem a lot better on this one. I use PAC as my daily driver and I'm not missing anything at all.
[G2 General] vwbest16:
LG G2 will get Android Kitkat 4.4 100%

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-lg-g2/336813-g2-kitkat-info-techradar.html

I hope to start LG upgrade firmware until the end of Q1 2014.
[G2 General] Dr.Molestratus:
Egg man, they never updated the G. But the question is; when the update is NOT just an update, ex 4.2, to 4.2.2,but a "new version of the Android OS"

I do think they will update.
[G2 General] eggman89:
Just a random guy saying it. Nothing official about it,
[G2 General] Cola-Wodka:
LG Austria says that the update will come Q1/Q2 2014:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/lg-e...-auf-android-44-kitkat-timing/702344753118171
[G2 General] Kiwi_Dude:
It also states that LG reserves the right not to update the phone if they choose not to. Believe me, I've had my fair share of disappointments over the years with the likes of HTC and Nokia not updating their devices. I do hope we get the official 4.4 update, but if it's not to be you have two choices...

1) Keep the phone on the latest software it has (or root).

2) Get rid of the phone!
[G2 General] Norside:
I think this is one of the last chances for lg to show that they can update their phones, at least for me. If they don't update g2 to 4.4 then this is my last Lg phone (its my first lg phone btw) .
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Well, the page says only what I said. That kitkat for HTC one only available for selected devices ONLY in USA. It still isn't available for customers from other parts of the world, there's still no kitkat for chinese, poland, french or german buyers of HTC One. So then we can easily presume that HTC One still haven't been updated to kitkat

USA buyer of DevEd or Google Ed or Unlocked edition are minority of HTC buyers

Show me WHERE they http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48904244&postcount=644

Or stop posting BS
[G2 General] Redshark976:
Seems strange I was on u korean forum last week and they could choose runtime then art or Dalvik

Verstuurd vanaf mijn LG-D802 met Tapatalk
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
What version of firmware they running? Maybe they already got root access and turned ART on through root means? IDK
[G2 General] tacosrdelicioso:
Yeah folks I highly doubt Samsung or htc phones will have art baked in their 4.4 ota's.
[G2 General] realeze:
I love it. Self pwnage.
[G2 General] cruiser:
ART is a part of Kikat ! You better inform yourself before posting such untrue things !

http://www.zpsjbbs.com/thread-6172-1-1.html
[G2 General] G1_enthusiast:
...well you shoulda have done your studies, LG never update their software, this issue been going on since G2X

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ART is not a proprietary software, its embedded into 4.4 so your wrong.
[G2 General] j0ff:
Can a mod delete the last 5 pages please?
[G2 General] kennypow3rs:
I never had an LG phone lol. Lesson learned...
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
That os because i always use aosp rom, but i prefer 4.2.2 LG stock rom than 4.4 touchwiz
[G2 General] Hid3rs:
Whether ART is in LG's KitKat or not, there's definitely NO runtime selection.

Proof:

He scrolls all the way down, you can see it yourself.

I believe the linked picture above is from the early test/beta/whatever version.

Why would LG 'take it out', no idea.
[G2 General] gm007:
Art is a waste of time till now,its in beta stage,so why people are asking about it ?just because they listen a new word in android world!!!
[G2 General] nrage23:
People never understand Android. It runs better the more ram it uses.
[G2 General] rafaelsartori:
RAM exists to be filled. just that.
[G2 General] emprize:
why dont u go cm section and ask them why so many people keep flash cm in every version? its at nighty stage
[G2 General] robogo1982:
I believe the proper term is "an investment for the future", not "waste of time".
[G2 General] kolembo:


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I've heard this mantra over and over and over. It's designer wank as far as I'm concerned. They love to think that but it simply isn't true. Clogged up RAM clogs up the phone. That is the experience. Simple. I've never had an Android that's happy running without free RAM and I am suddenly extremely happy with the performance of all these phones that have spare RAM in buckets. Go figure. The amount of time I wasted trundling along behind advice on Androids superb RAM handling...sigh. No. It does not translate to the experience.
[G2 General] alexcreto:
The more people try it, the more pressure there is for more compatible apps
[G2 General] jiteshj:
2 min silence for those who think ART is present in official Kitkat for G2

LG G2
[G2 General] gm007:
I meant people are wasting the time asking about Art since it's not ready.
[G2 General] bobsie41:
'Unused ram is wasted ram.'

-I have often seen this quoted, which may be true however, with free ram, the device runs fine...with not enough ram, the device chokes..end of.

This is fact even though I suspect the complexities of this are way beyond me :D

On a side note. Looking forward to receiving my new G2 this morning to replace my HTC one which has given up the ghost. :o

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After trying this briefly on my HTC one running stock GE rom it seems to be very promising. It will be a big step forward for android in the future IMO.
[G2 General] dukat0s:
Lg with worst updates in history.did.it again ;) note 3 taking ota 4.4.2 worldwide when we.stuck on 2012 4.2.2 firmware great ;)
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Stop, please stop posting this screen. This is from early alpha and PROBABLY from developer's ROM, which only Chinese programmers working for LG have access to. Stock G2 Kitkat doesn't have ART as of now. It't maybe hidden internally but w/o root no one can access it
[G2 General] bobsie41:
Yes it most probably will be included but hidden.

HTC hid it in the one kitkat update as have Samsung in the note 3 update which has just started rolling out. At this stage it wouldn't serve any useful purpose for LG to include this until it is employed across the board by all (most?) of the larger companies.

I suspect that, at some stage, google will give the green light and then we will all have it at pretty much the same time.
[G2 General] Perilla_:
Yes, but they want moar ram free. It's free!

Ram is something you know you have, let the os use it, it know how to use it. Free ram is useless.
[G2 General] Fraxon:
A OS that uses less ram is always better. More ram to be used for other stuff, better multitasking.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn LG-D802 met Tapatalk
[G2 General] Perilla_:
But usually people want mooar free ram with 200+ apps installed, and a task killer is his 'friend'.
[G2 General] youngpic48:
No ART in 4.4 and RAM management is worse on my G2. Where did you see the select runtime at? Taking pictures is still slow. Battery drains a bit faster now too.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Yes. And permanent network location http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2551846 is the source of higher power demands of Kitkat. So those who waiting eager for Kitkat better buy some powerbanks beforehand
[G2 General] 3ryce:
I'm gonna be happy when they release it. I just came from a Sprint siii and did not like how the update changed the boot loader and carp. So far this g2 on Verizion is awesome! I'm excited for the update. Hopefully it won't lock down the phones like the 4.3 update did for Samsung.
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Korean G2 has smaller battery and i hope that this might have a smaller effect on D802

LG G2
[G2 General] zathus:
The last 10 pages forgot to read the op lol..

Sooo much speculation.

Fact. The official kit Kat Rom will come when LG wants it to. Getting angry over this fact is like yelling at the rain because you don't like rain. You either get out of the rain till it stops or endure and except it.

If you don't like how LG is running there show. Get a different phone!

If you bought a g2 expecting super fast updates then you are a fool. Especially if your state side...
[G2 General] mhoss48:
And the ballon D'or goes to you. Really true

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] dscsayers:
Bluetooth MAP?

Can anyone confirm Bluetooth MAP being present on the Korean variant of 4.4? It was my understanding that was going to be there... But I haven't heard or read anything.
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
Note 3 Already get Official 4.4.2 in Poland

And we still waiting 4.4 -__-
[G2 General] kennypow3rs:
I've never had an LG phone in my life so I had no idea but Samsung and HTC have taught me valuable lessons about carrier updates and how slow they are. My next phone will just be a nexus. I'm not quite sure I ended up with this G2 lol. I sold my one for its terrible pink camera and found this device on swappa. I wasn't sure what I wanted but I like this phone. Screw carriers and manufacturers I'm on Paranoid Android. Problem solved for me...
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
The problem with buying a Nexus instead is that although you get an updated OS, you wont notice because little actually changes in reality. Seriously, the difference between 4.1 and 4.4 is minimal to say the least. There are virtually no significant features that have been added that thw owner of an OEM phone would care about, and frankly there are extras bugs. You also have to put up with cheap build, poor QC, a poor buying experience (if getting from Google Play), and no guarantee you will get an updates after 2 years anyway (see the Galaxy Nexus).
[G2 General] Sean473:
Just get a custom ROM... Best of both worlds :P
[G2 General] Winudert:
Everything is good. Same story was nearly two years ago with my LG Optimus 4X HD (LG flagship then). In any case, then Tegra 3 was awful thing, not Android version, which is still 4.1.2. Right now I decided to buy not a Nexus 5, but G2, because G2 have great display, great camera, I really like rear buttons idea. And G2 have same Snapdragon 800 CPU, as Nexus 5. And G2 will get official KitKat, just let this year begin. And one more thing. Tell me a feature guys from KitKat you can't live without (I can't find one in my Nexus 7 Gen2)?
[G2 General] geonahta:
Working smart Bt4, as advertised.
[G2 General] youngpic48:
I doubt it... Permanent location like on my Nexus 4 is enabled. When I look at my GPS icon on the N4 it is half highlighted. Its always on now.

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Immersive mode for Play Books and Gallery.
[G2 General] goodmamba:
KitKat for Videotron Canada?

I just took a look at the official lg firmwares and it look like the Videotron Canada bond Lg G2 has already got KitKat.

Is it true?

17 - AVC/VIDEOTRON(CANADA) - V11B - LGD801 - 1.73 GiB - 93 - Online

source: http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=36
[G2 General] abo_mara7:
LG Saudi Arabia said:

"Good news for G2 owners in Saudi Arabia. You can upgrade your phone's OS by the end of January 2014."

https://twitter.com/LGMobileSaudi/status/422733605849149442
[G2 General] Scorbion:
That's great!!
[G2 General] Perilla_:
What's their model?

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 mediante Tapatalk
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
D802
[G2 General] Perilla_:
Nice... thank you!

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 mediante Tapatalk
[G2 General] Fabof94:
Oh great news. Any other country confirmed this information?

Envoyé de mon LG-D802 en utilisant Tapatalk
[G2 General] Alleks1802:
Could i flash this in my d802 in germany ?
[G2 General] dukat0s:
No ofc.canada boot img and kernel is diffrent
[G2 General] Fabof94:
A French Article

http://www.phonandroid.com/des-videos-de-android-4-4-kitkat-sur-le-lg-g2-en-coree.html
[G2 General] OrionBG:
This is Not 4.4! The 4.4 Update will V20
[G2 General] Joeful:
https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...CAEYAA&usg=AFQjCNFU0ibAy1dBElGkXO4EtkQtUbSSVg

Sent from my VS980 4G
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Why did u post this, the same guy ericsmissingteeth posted here about his video about a week ago

LG G2
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
Damn it seems that the update is just around the corner....it is just a matter of time till we see it......i am so excited ...
[G2 General] Joeful:
Well, one reason could be that I don't remember each and every post in this thread. The other could be that I'm genuinely excited. Divert your question elsewhere. <3

Sent from my VS980 4G
[G2 General] compumasta:
From the looks of it, LG came to play. If LG gets this out in countries that don't have to deal with US carrier BS within a couple of weeks of Sammy, then they do appear interested in finally competing on Sammy's level. This would be a vast improvement for LG, especially if it turns out that LG's took a couple more weeks, but had less bugs.
[G2 General] :
lol did you see the lagg on opening the book, the notepad, dialer, all non internet requiring apps, scrolling settings. No thanks if this is stock kitkat on lgg2

I will stay custom. lol
[G2 General] LeVvE:
I will be trying this when its released. Must be around the corner now! :)
[G2 General] Joeful:
I doubt that after rooting and optimising, there will be lag. He could also be running other tasks.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[G2 General] Sean473:
Or they were too lazy to change to 4.4.2 when they started with 4.4...
[G2 General] p2cactus:
Just like every US carrier. I have had phones from all major manufactures. If you want timely updates go Apple. Otherwise stop bashing the manufactures. It is the carriers at fault.

Sent from my Sprint LG G2.
[G2 General] dukat0s:
G2

RoFL ofc its 4.4 look korean Version they all got V11(4.4KK) :)
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
The Korean version is 20F atm, 20A was first official KitKat release, just like LG has always done their version numbers.
[G2 General] dukat0s:
G2

didnt know that.thanks for the info.
[G2 General] 1Jonathan1:
20H is the newest version, seems like they are heavily optimising since a lot of updated versions came out in just a few weeks. Maybe that is the cause for the late kitkat arrival on our phones?
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Ugh when I saw this post I was disappointed but didn't know the video was recorded with an app. Now if he used a camera when recording and you actually saw lag, then you would have a point. But when someone uses a screen recorder app take it with a grain of salt because it never appears as fast as the actual phone.
[G2 General] Hypercaine:
That could very well be the case. It would be cool if they release 4.4.2 straight, so they could be ironing bugs.

Btw, this is 4 hours old, and gsmarena is a credible source always.

http://www.gsmarena.com/its_officia...itkat_rollout_starts_this_month-news-7566.php
[G2 General] Life Engineer:
This is caused by the screen capturing/recording app and not the phone itself is laggy!
[G2 General] Sean473:
Yeah its bollocks... Went to LG Saudi page and they've just tweeted that they got it wrong... Supposedly the end Jan date was for the roll out of the L II series Knock Knock feature update...
[G2 General] Hypercaine:
Damn it. In any case, patience is the key. I guess.
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Lol then this is the second time they are sh*tting us

LG G2
[G2 General] sanke1:
Lol in the meantime, I am enjoying buggy, self rebooting CM 11 based ROMs.
[G2 General] Zoide_:
Try the AOSP-based ROMs, they are very stable.
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
+1 :D
[G2 General] xgman:
Seems to me that LG really doesn't care about updating the G2 one way or the other and some of the carriers even less so.
[G2 General] jmill75:
Seriously, 4.4 just came out in November...jeesh, relax
[G2 General] xgman:
yes I know, but the list of odd ball older phone that gets this already is growing. The G2 just seems so static. And don't get me wrong, I don't expect KK to be much different that what we have now, but I'm just saying that it "seems" to me that the model is on the back burner for this.
[G2 General] goodmamba:
Root for the international (D802) kitkat firmware.

Hi, I know that it is too early to guess, but will it be possible to get root for the kitkat firmware using the actual method?

The question is (simplified) does the Korean kitkat firmware got rooted?
[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
Hi

Yes root available for 4.4

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48709232
[G2 General] mhoss48:
Again software server couldnt be reached

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Whats the use even searching for an update?

LG G2
[G2 General] Stizzo89:
LG G2 ARM

Just a question:

What about ARM?

I've seen some screenshot where ART can be choose (1) and other screenshot where ART & Dalvik choose is missing (2).

(1): http://www.tuttoandroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/090658fpbfzpzbi9cxuovc.png

(2): a discussion here on xda but i can't find the thread, i'm in a jungle :p
[G2 General] roor1337:
like when you try to pick up a call and instead of answering it, the phone decides now is the time to shutdown? Very annoying bug with with rare random reboots with AOSP ROMs still. PAEK helps, as I was on the fence about flashing back to 4.2.2 and just using xposed.
[G2 General] Zoide_:
I guess you should let the developer know so he can look into it. I've been using Mahdi ROM on my D800 and have never seen that happen.

But this is somewhat OT, so let's get back to discussing the official (stock) 4.4 ROM.
[G2 General] wwewwf96:
"In an answer to an impatient user on Facebook, LG Italy said that the 4.4 KitKat update for the G2 is scheduled to arrive by the end of March.

Earlier today, LG Saudi Arabia tweeted to inform fans that the G2 would get Android 4.4 KitKat at the end of January. However, the tweet has been pulled - which likely means the update won’t be ready this month after all. " Source: Phonearena

Fail.
[G2 General] hamad138:
I dont know but korea already had 5 updates on their kitkat, and 4.4.2 isnt implented yet.

So long way to go
[G2 General] Cristi_10:
I think that is why they are called LG:Lie Good

but who cares,we got amazing devs here and we need to thanks them for bringing us the best roms ;)
[G2 General] l2phile:
https://twitter.com/LGMobileSaudi/statuses/423434906488672256

LG Mobile SaudiVerified account ‏@LGMobileSaudi

We apologize for the previous wrong tweet regarding G2 Kit Kat upgrade schedule,the date was for upgrading the KnockOn feature to Lii series
[G2 General] Blueberry211:
LG updates?

Idk man. I had htc phones for a while now. But I just loved the LG G2. This is the first LG phone I have had since like, 2010ish. Are they usually slow with their updates?

Btw, idk if it helps any but im on the LG G2 at T-mobile

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Guys. We have the best damn smartphone out there. And its only going to be so much better with kitkat. I feel like its gonna take a while but it should be well worth the wait
[G2 General] Jishnu Sur™:
They are slow. But they updated 3 year old phone to ICS which runs pretty decent considering it had 360MB ram. Guys the Kitkat came out only in november and all manufacturers are still in test builds process. I have always seen, lg comes late with the updates but they are of good quality unlike samsung or htc. I have nexus 5 and I wonder why you guys crave for kitkat? ART cannot be used for 90% of the apps for your info. The stock ROM in G2 is the best ROM i have seen from ages which is almost bugless.
[G2 General] Higgins12:
I couldn't care less about the LG KitKat update meanwhile. Was waiting for it and been excited when it comes but meanwhile AOSP ROM's are advancing anf getting more stable by the day. So i can patiently until the Day when LG gets the software updated to 4.4.2 right now as it seems they'll only update to 4.4. Even 4.4.x includes Mainly Nexus fixes there are still fixes for general Android in it. Why they deliver only 4.4 might stay LG's secret.

I don't know what exotic Apps you're running but i use ART on a AOSP ROm since quiet a while now and with 160 Apps installed there isn't a single one which won't run with ART