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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zepfloyd:
Philly has had band 4 VZ LTE for a little while now, it's worked at least ever since the GS4 had it unlocked a few weeks ago anyway, however unlike NYC at 20 it only seems to be 10Mhz channel here. Best I can seem to do on it is 26/18 on the Note 3. It certainly works best outdoors where I can easily get a fully signal of it, even without forcing it. Inside my office it drops to -110 on automatic so it hangs on which is nice, but speeds drop to about 5-6M...still better than B13 during the day around here :shudder:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ssmaster:
This is smack in the middle of the corner of wall street and broad street right outside of the stock exchange. I didn't even need to force band 4 it connected automatically.

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My view while taking this speedtest

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My view while taking this speed test

And this is what happens when I get kicked down to band 13 half a block away on Wall Street.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hsj1906:
Has anyone seen any AWS activity in the Washington, DC/Northern Virginia area?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
Getting Band 4 here.This is in McDonough,Georgia. About 30-40 minutes south of Atlanta
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Good to hear that AWS has been live in Philly for a while!

What's weird about Philly is that Verizon decided to deploy on B block which is 10Mhz wide, but they also hold the license for C block which is adjacent and is 5Mhz wide. They could've deployed 15Mhz channels, but they decided not to. Weird. Maybe they're keeping it vacant for trading purposes, etc... Who knows.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Something is definitely wrong with your ServiceMode screenshot.

The EARFCN value of 2050 corresponds to center frequency of 2120Mhz which is the center of a 20Mhz wide A+B blocks. Your screenshot only shows BW of only 10Mhz.

Could you restart your phone and take another ServiceMode screenshot? Should say 20Mhz under BW.

-Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kampana:
Thanks for this thread OP!

I am on stock MJ7 unrooted. I tried dialing the 3 numbers on the first page, but none of them worked. I ended up downloading ServiceMode from Google Play, but I'm not sure how to read it. I see "Network Type LTE:14", does this have anything to do with band 4 LTE?

Thanks again
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] changt34x:
Got as best as I could to the tower in Philly and here is what I got. Not the best but not bad considering we are 10Mhz. I took the screenshot after, but during the test I had better signal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
Looks like the same thing. I restarted the phone and took another screen grab. Ran some more speed tests and speed seemed to have dropped down a bit. After the restart starts at 3:54pm
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] siciliano777:
I get in the 40's and 50's Mbps on band 13 right down the road from my house...and I'm in the boonies in northeast PA. Must be right by a tower or something...?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Definitely not bad considering that B13 seems to struggle. Have you tried a different server in speedtest.net app?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
This is extremely weird, because there are multiple reports from ATL and the suburbs (Hiram) with the same EARFCN 2050, and 20Mhz bandwidth!

It's right in the center of 20Mhz at 2120Mhz frequency (just like here in NYC, Chi, etc), and unless they're working on your cell site in particular, and not using the bottom part of A block and top part of B block, there is no way why you shouldn't be attaching to 20Mhz FDD LTE Verizon's network! Did you try testing in another area of ATL?

Here is a report from another (iPhone 5S) user in ATL:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...th-Remote-Radio-Units?p=15266145#post15266145
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] changt34x:
I just blew threw 1GB running Speed tests (putting that unlimited to work) on the 6 closest servers and doing some minor changes in my location, but all the other servers would only max out at 20-26mbps down. Upload speeds were better on other servers (10-20mbps sometimes). I think its amazing Philly doesn't have a speed test.net server considering how big of a city it is.

My B4 drops signal really easily, but I'm quite impressed at how smooth the transition is from B13 to B4. Granted B4 is only strong at one street corner on the entire campus, when walking down the street I saw it switch back and forth 3 times and none of the times did it get stuck like the GNex or TBolt switching Evdo to LTE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ssmaster:
I just got B4 in New Jersey. This was at Exchange Place in Jersey City. Doesn't compare to what I saw in NYC but it is something.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
That's very interesting, it could also be the backhaul service to the cell sites, as sometimes wireless carriers like to under-provision that fiber service until they absolutely have to pay for more bandwidth to serve the cells on their sites. For instance in NYC we have 20Mhz Band 4 LTE, capable of 150Mbps, but I've been able to only push up to ~80Mbps on and unloaded site during off-peak hours, which tells me that either Verizon didn't provision enough backhaul service to support 150Mbps here, or they're rate limiting me on purpose lol...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Also by looking at the signal readings on your ServiceMode screenshot, you're just about to drop that connection haha :o
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kampana:
Sorry guys, wanted to bump this because it got buried really quick. Not surprising, given the content in this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
LTE:14 is a generic Android report on network status. Doesn't have much to do with ServiceMode, which is built into Samsung's TouchWiz framework, and allows you to directly interact with the RIL.

You need to get the other codes in that app to work. If you read the posts earlier in this thread, you should be able to get it to work. You may have to be rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] changt34x:
I don't believe you can do this unrooted. You have to have root to enable the service menu by changing the file in /efs/carrier/ to ON and then getting access.

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I believe that may be the case too, I guess we will find out in a few weeks/months once density and hopefully more backhaul comes.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ssmaster:
This is on the border of Hoboken And Jersey City NJ. I get better speeds here on band 13. I lost this band 4 signal two blocks West.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
For sure! They already have all the fiber running into their sites, and GIgE fiber cards, but the backhaul service most likely needs to be remotely re-provisioned for more capacity. If you think about it, their Band13 is 10Mhz, which translates to 73.6Mbps peak throughput, and it's constantly utilized or loaded. Assuming they are paying for 100Mbps fiber service to their site, that really leaves just about 25Mbps for Band 4.

Of course it doesn't really scale that linear, there is network QoS and Scheduling that come into play, but they really need at least 150Mbps per sector to support fully both LTE airlinks, otherwise they're losing spectral efficiency.

In many cases they're running three sectors per cell site, which requires 3x the capacity, etc...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Read one of my earlier posts describing how to read and understand ServiceMode signal strength/quality: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47534485&postcount=10
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Quick speed test connected to band 4, inside a hotel just outside of Chicago's midway airport.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] lisek99:
This is from a corner of 31st and 8th Ave in Manhattan but when I did a speed test I was only getting like 25 down and 15 up I didn't take a screenshot of that because there was no point
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] anewday:
Nice thread.

I always use Towerstream, they give the best download and upload speeds.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Clifton is decent as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
50mb down, 30mb up on band 4 here in nyc! Woohoo!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] siciliano777:
Anyone know the max for band 13? I've gotten an average of around 50 Mbps right down the road from my house, and I'm in the mountains in the middle of PA...kinda perplexing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
73.6Mbps Down

27.6Mbps Up
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] siciliano777:
Even that is honestly INSANE IMO. Now I can see why unlimited data plans are slowly disappearing...at speeds like that I have no idea how networks would handle the throughput.

Just to put this into perspective...my cable company charges

$125 a MONTH

for 50 Mbps down/ 5 Mbps up. lol that's JUST for the internet. Cable/PPV/DVR/etc are all a lot extra $$$.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
my band 4 experience

so i was driving by nyc today and i gave this thing a test. First and foremost, I am really grateful to every one here who managed to help us unlock yet another potential of our phone. Second here are some of my thoughts :

I had the luxury of testing full reception 4G on band 13 and 4 and to my surprise, my speeds dropped ( within a very short distance ) form 50 mb/sec * which is sadly what i used to get with my thunderbolt , when 4G first came out * to 12 !! . It really made me wonder about the future of verizon's 2 year old 4G. I know they are building it faster than everyone else, but its also aging faster than every one else's . This is also after ending unlimited and convincing masses of people into dropping their grandfather plan. I cant seem to see how 2 gigs / month / customer deteriorated their network so fast.

What I also fail to understand it is this , and maybe someone can help me out here: when all these companies started they said it was unrealistic to offer text and minutes unlimited because of finite resources, how come every single company now offers unlimited both: how did the resources become infinite when it comes to voice and texts , but not when it comes to data : or is it another excuse to capitalize on the most valuable commodity of todays age ?

The great news is : i did have solid 4G from long island Ny to Easton PA. not once did m phone switch to 3g.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Great to see that you're enjoying Band 4! Congrats!

Few things to note... Verizon's Band 13 LTE is actually about 3 years old. Was launched in December 2010. The issue here is not only data saturation, but signaling and the sheer amount of devices on the Airlink. For each B13 capable LTE device, Verizon's LTE scheduler has to allocate x amount of resource blocks which is shared. So the more users consistently connected to the LTE network, the less resources allocated to you...

As far as talk/text, back in a day that used to be preferred form of communication, and user devices really weren't capable of using too much data, so the network infrastructure didn't really need a very significant upgrade on the backhaul end.

Todays LTE networks are all IP based, and they're here to address insane demand for data, which is where carriers try to cash in. It all costs them, and they're all trying to make as high margins as possible.

Hope this helps.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] waleed300:
Guys, I've tried everything that's mentioned here to get into service mode, I edited hidden menu with root browser to ON, restarted the phone a couple of times, tried the apps, which are not available on 4.3 jb yet. Every combination of numbers I've dialed has just made a phone call. Can someone help me
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] siciliano777:
Two things to note:

1. make sure you're using the STOCK dialer.

2. It's easy to overlook the first character * ..I did when I first tried it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Qualcomm today announced a brand new Category 6 smartphone cellular modem which will fully support Verizon's LTE-Advanced deployment, focusing on technique called Carrier Aggregation, allowing Verizon to aggregate their entire LTE spectrum (10Mhz of Band 13 + 20Mhz of Band 4) into a single fat pipe, spitting out peak speeds of 225Mbps on the downlink.

This solution will hit the market in Q1 of 2014. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7531/qualcomm-announces-fourth-gen-cat-6-lte-modem-mdm9x35
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hctimin:
I was envious of everyone's AWS LTE speeds, and thought that it hasn't rolled out here yet.

Randomly checked while having dinner at a restaurant to see Band 4.

I was giddy like a little school girl and went straight to the SpeedTest app. Was not disappointed!!! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
What's your market?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Also, if stop by your existing known Verizon's cell tower, look for a smaller antenna with a larger box attached at the back of it! Those are Remote Radio Heads attached to AWS Band 4 capable panel!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
My signal is still showing Band 4 with 10MHz. Any special reason for that and why I am not getting the 20MHz? Down here in Metro Atlanta, McDonough,GA.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Have you tried moving away from your serving cell site and trying a different area yet? I'm guessing your cell site is being worked on.

I'm getting consistent reports from Atlanta metro with that same Earfcn_dl of 2050, and BW of 20Mhz.

Speed tests from your area are also hitting 96Mbps.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
I have not I work around dupont circle at a retail verizon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hctimin:
Orange County, CA
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Ah, you guys are 15Mhz AWS market, which means download peak speeds are at 112Mbps. Enjoy!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I'm going to Atlanta for a car tomorrow I have band 4 ready and lte set to automatic anything else I need to do??

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hctimin:
I look forward to posting that screen shot when I find that area,...:victory:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Now my clock isn't updating wow what kind of issue is this

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] changt34x:
Found the sweet spot for Philly B4 this morning.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
For 10Mhz that's solid! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
In Atlanta buying car and here are the speeds omg

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JSkilnyk:
I got my Note 3 on the 15th and have gotten these speeds from day one. Live/work in the Greenwood area just south of Indianapolis. Phone is not rooted and Im not able to get into service menus. I just thought I would lost my speeds. Will be trying to get into menus whem I get time.

Sent from my N900V stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
At Atlanta airport . wow!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Wow man I was there yesterday and I was blown away I want this in Cincinnati haha

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] silow:
Minneapolis
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
You are pretty much maxing out 50Mbps upload!!! Congrats!! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Harleydroid:
Guys are there any ways to find out if and when aws is available in your city? My speeds are flippin terrible. I get like 6mbps down on 4g in my city at my house.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] docnok63:
Even though it's about #30 on the list, I can't find a spot in Memphis, TN where band 4 is turned on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tw1n5nak35:
Thank you for the info. I was able to enable service mode, then enable vzw band 4 and finally choose lte pref band 4 :D Unfortunately Band 4 is not available in my area yet in Chicago :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Band 4 is definitely live in parts of Chicago. Check the busy areas first!

Have reports off of the i90 and Addison exit. It's a 20Mhz market.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...Results-POST-EM-HERE!?p=15255545#post15255545
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kampana:
FYI, AWS is not available in downtown San Francisco. I enabled Band 4 and was at pretty much the heart of the financial district (Clay and Sansom, near the Transamerican building), still shows Band 13 on the *#0011# screen. I tried it again in Chinatown, still no joy. I verified using speedtest app, 1.38 down and .46 up.

One would assume that downtown SF would be one of the first places VZW would deploy AWS...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
It is. There are numerous reports from SF as well. Check out different parts of town, and force Band 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kampana:
I did force Band 4, thank you for this thread BTW.

I'm saying that although it's been enabled in San Francisco, it has not been enabled in the financial district. If it has been enabled in the FiDi, it's only in a very small area, given that the FiDi is only half a square mile in area. I'll check the other side of downtown this afternoon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
You're very welcome, keep us posted! SF Verizon AWS market is capable of 112Mbps!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] saint365:
Yes. Even though my city is about 25-50 mbps but here in chicago ohare airport shows over 80 mbps!

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Maybe not your city but band 4 is available in Chicago :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rogerwalker22:
I'm right outside of Tampa fl. I've checked several times. Still no band 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kampana:
Yesterday I walked from the Transamerican building to Montgomery and Market. At every block I would stop and check which band I was on, it never went to Band 4.

Not sure what the deal is, I force Band 4 but I'm not getting AWS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harrychimp:
I got this while at the FedEx office in the Little Tokyo area of Downtown LA.

The speed test was nothing spectacular. But good to know there's a Band 4 signal available.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tw1n5nak35:
Buffalo Grove huh? I'm about 20 minutes south east of you. These are the place I tried. Band 4 does not work in : Melrose Park, Elmhurst, Niles, Skokie, Morton Grove, Des Plaines and Park Ridge, but it's good to see that @ Ohare is blazing fast speed and I'll do more testing :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] detr0yt:
So I enabled b4 and forced it under preferred LTE then my 4G sign disappears. ... And has a circle with a slash in it... I'm assuming that means it's not a available? 15 miles north east of Detroit.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] razvu:
Florida Keys, not too bad.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Looks like Verizon is expanding AWS into the outer boroughs of New York City. This is Astoria, Queens, non-Note 3 device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] docnok63:
The 0011 and the main screen codes work, but I can not get 2263 to work to force band 4. Is there another method?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] skunkle88:
Thank you for this thread! I switched my note 3 from Verizon to T-Mobile and enabling band 4 allowed me to get lte. $30 a month is a no brainer!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tw1n5nak35:
LTE AWS confirmed @ ohare airport and woodfield mall schaumburg :D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Hyperdrive Juggernote3 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JSkilnyk:
Full Size

Not sure if this is why I get solid signal where I live. Hell I don't even know if its a cell tower. But, since i've been with Verizon i've never had any issues.

Tower is owned by Crown Castle.

Latitude / Longitude: 39.578611 / -86.115556
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] docnok63:
It's no longer on the Play Store, but I like this Cell Tower Locater app that I've been using for a couple years. It ties in with Google Maps quite well. It will tell you if it's a Verizon tower.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JSkilnyk:
Wow, great app. Thanks.

According to the app the tower in the picture is not Verizons. Now I just need to figure out who is using the tower. Its been bugging since I moved here a few years ago. lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
what should this show me?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] anewday:
Why doesn't the S4 service menu show the Cell Identity and Cell ID like on the iphone? What is TAC?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jack584:
That app is false. I know exactly where the Verizon tower in my area is, and it puts it at a different location. It puts the location of the tower right at the school in my area, which is incorrect, there would never be antennas put up at the school because the parents would go crazy about cancer fears. They had a T-Mobile tower blocked because the proposed location was within 1500 ft from the school.

Tomorrow I'll test it out with a couple other towers that I know the location of to verify.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Just gonna spam you guys with an old speed test I did on my Old Bionic... May I present to you WUT?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Ya that's clearly errored test. Maximum possible upstream on LTE PHY layer is 50Mbps. But thanks for spam...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] docnok63:
LOL!

The app shows which tower you are currently connected to and throws it on a terrain map. As most carriers have cross-tower license agreements, the one you're currently connected to might not be owned by Verizon. There's no way that at 71KB app has its own database of towers across the globe that it's running off of, so it's pulling the information straight from the tower.

There might be several towers right on top of the school so students and faculty alike can make calls in an emergency. Use Google Maps to try and see if it shows up on satellite. Look at my attached pic for an example. I was eating at BK on the corner of Main and Gloster streets in Tupelo, MS once. I had a damn good connection and I wondered where the tower was. I fired up the app and, sure enough, it was right across the street.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JSkilnyk:
I recently got into the tech behind cell phones. So I started reading about upcoming LTE stuff. I'm constantly going "How do they think up this stuff." Like until the other day I didn't know that incoming and outgoing data are on 2 different frequencies.

However, I would like to test downtown Indy soon. I'll post some shots when I get there.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] scribbles395:
Suburb of Chicago.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jack584:
Tried it again and it put the location of a tower I know the location of in a big empty field. Drove by it and there was nothing there. Stood on top of the underground exuopment box of another tower and it put the location smack in the middle of a big housing development. I guess they could have had a femtocell but it was half a mile away from where I was, way out of femtocell range.

I guess it doesn't work good in my area.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tw1n5nak35:
Nicely done. I wanted to ask is it a north, west or south chicago suburb? I was only able to achieve that LTE AWS speed near schamburg @ the Texas de Brazil restaurant and Ohare airport. Very nice speeds nonetheless. I hope chicago land gets better coverage as we move forward :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zepfloyd:
Funny enough poking around today in Philly, found....15Mhz now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] milan03:
Hehe I knew something was wrong with only 10Mhz in Philly :)

Great to see it, congrats! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Rootuser3.0:
Alsip Illinois
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] changt34x:
New AWS site live in Philly today, also 15MHz. Unfortunately something is really wrong with regular B13, and this just has to come on the day the workplace internet is down.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bigillz:
Just activated AWS, downtown Bellevue, WA. Formerly so congested on LTE it was almost totally unusable.