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[G2 General] Billy Madison:
there wasn't any rollout yet, there's still only buggy beta, and nothing really interesting in 4.4
[G2 General] hamad138:
Is there art? And what about ram usage? Maybe u could provide us wuth infos
[G2 General] Fir3blade:
That makes sense, even if some guys in here are saying the opposite.

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[G2 General] AL_IRAQI:
More Screenshots

LG G2 Android 4.4 upgrade experience

G2 Android 4.4 upgrade will start
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
nope

the same. 800+ smth after hard reset, 1100 after turning all google garbage off

opengl 3 - yes there is. but antutu opengl score is around 1900, when note3 9005 has ~3300 points.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Hiliarious why there is no ART???

I start to hate lg now, then this updates is complet useless
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
either I can't find it. or cause it's still early beta and in release there'll be art. I presume they'll include art not before their stock apps like qremote, qmemo, qtranslate would run flawlessly
[G2 General] Sean473:
ART should be in dev options... Did u check there? It's impossible not to have it!
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Check
[G2 General] :
Yeah its called runtime something. Dalvik is chosen by default. But to be honest,I don't notice a smaller memory footprint, as we'll as apps behaving like its upercharged , what I kinda expected. Art as is now in my opinion is massively overrated.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
Ewwwww...android 4.4. I want android 4.4.2 at this point. Want the latest and greatest baseline of kitkat
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
Then make it! Piece of cake, easy peasy.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Do you have any sources to back this up?
[G2 General] Fir3blade:
Do you have any sources to confirm it?

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[G2 General] OptimusL:
Confirm what? I'm asking if he has any sources to confirm that there isn't a rollout yet.
[G2 General] marfillaster:
As long as art is beta on nexus devices, oem's may skip it as an option. If you've seen the htc release process, google get to say what's on oem ota. So as the network providers.
[G2 General] x714x:
I highly doubt Art isnt gonna be there, its a core of Android now, its meant to replace Dalvik since Oracle is a bunch of turds suing Google over Java patents
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
This and this and this and myself, when I check csmg.lgmobile.com:9002 url for upgrade it says only F320K11K_00.kdz is available for my piece

maybe, just maybe this rollout is only for Korea residents via some operator links, IDK
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Afaik the rollout was only supposed to be for Korea this month.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Well, the difference here "for Korea people" or "for Korean models F320". Bcause phone checks if there's update via the url by it's esn and if url says "latest version is 11K" then rollout is not official yet. the only way to give different version number is use geolocation by IP and then we who live outside of korea and bought F320 will miss updates
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Oh I see what you mean, so the rollout is only for the F320 models and only get it if you're in Korea.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Or maybe I'm wrong too and update is rolled out as stated here BUT my ESN is simply in queue. Then it's good, hope release doesn't have those glitches which beta had
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
I think art is no be release in 4.4 for LG, because some apps like câmera and Quick remoto dont work With art
[G2 General] hamad138:
whats the problem to have it in the developer settings then?, let us the choice what we want to use... nowonder why lg g2 isnt selling well
[G2 General] mhoss48:
The G2 isnt selling well cuz of the similarly spec'd Nexus5 for half the price. Also art is still in beta. And the G2 isnt slow in opening apps, Anw did any one saw the lg GX ? It has the specs of the G Pro but with 4.3

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
for g2 is my better device, i come from gt i9500, and g2 in other level, but i only uses aosp roms, g2 too its my first device more than a day away from charger.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
No, not for that reason, not everyone interested in Nexus firstly. and secondly, in the rest of the world the price is equal.

Maybe LG has bad reputation of some sort or maybe lacks proper advertizing and marketing or maybe the market simply fed up with similar flagships and people lazy to spend + money for what they have already. Nexus is simply not playing on the field of G2, yes on XDA them both considered the similar phones but for outside of XDA nexus is looked upon as geek's toy
[G2 General] prking07:
Nice, never knew a 5.2 inch screen is the same as 5 inch one, or a 3,000mah battery the same as a 2,300mah one, or a 8mp camera the same as a 13mp ois camera, or a 1.3mp front cam the same as a 2.1mp front cam, or having a ir blaster the same as not having one. Funny the new things you learn every day.
[G2 General] bberryhill0:
Despite the snark, that was a useful post.

Swyped from my LG G2 VS980 using Tapatalk Pro
[G2 General] Joeful:
Right, but lower priced phones are what drive Android sales. They were not wrong to say that the N5 overshadowed the LG G2 in terms of price and familiarity.
[G2 General] mockrocker:
They lack the aggressive marketing that Samsung does
[G2 General] Dri94:
This is biggest. Galaxy phones are high end n drive most android sales. They have funny commercials and great marketing. What almost every other android maker lacks
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
And they have aggressive and vocal community, that LG phones sadly but truly lacks
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Some people here are assuming the Nexus is selling well. I think the reality is that its a tiny seller as well. Few phones sell SIM free in large numbers and the Nexus isnt a big on-contract seller.

If the N4 is any measure of N5 sales then its not doing any better than the G2. Remember that when the S4 was launched it outsold the entire run of the N4 to that date in just 4 days.
[G2 General] skimilk44:
And in comes HTC's attempt with Robert Downey Jr.

But I agree, LG's commercials are extremely lack luster. When I brought my phone to a trip in Michigan, nobody knew what it was, and when my finger was covering the LG logo, some even thought it was a samsung
[G2 General] lequocvan:
[stock]f320k,l,s 4.4 cwm stock rom + root

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2590467 :laugh:
[G2 General] mockrocker:
Some rumors going on here:

http://www.androidsas.com/2013/12/international-lg-g2-to-receive-kitkat.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[G2 General] radioguinea:
Hey StarFighter, any update?
[G2 General] slebit:
I really hope that is true!
[G2 General] SNaReX:
I really dont believe that we will see a stable 4.4 until next month. I am really wondering if korean guys have already updated their androids why we cannot see any videos on youtube which would make us jealous at them
[G2 General] Sean473:
Same here!! I really hope so... Would be great new year's present!!!

It's definetly been released although its strange that that it doesn't have ART.... Also not everyone uses Youtube so there might be videos but elsewhere...
[G2 General] Cst79:
It's not strange at all. ART is a "developer option" and belongs on developer phones for the time being. LG doesn't want to deal with half-ready features that make your phone and applications unstable.

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So you would expect people to distinguish between different black rectangles and be able to say who made which ? :)
[G2 General] vPro97:
You, my sir, deserve a medal - for both replies.
[G2 General] Schmiesus:
As much as I don't mind running the Paranoid Android rom I would love to get the offical kitkat release going on this phone.
[G2 General] vPro97:
I don't even know why I am looking forwards to kitkat. - I mean, there's no ART (not a huge problem though), no Dual window (like the LG G Flex) and most of the device will stay the same except for some KitKat based optimisations. But I really want it =/ I guess I'm just greedy, I want the latest and greatest ASAP.
[G2 General] sin-cal:
Some people take this hobby a little too seriously.
[G2 General] propov:
A lot of people here.The forum is fo serious users.but averages are welcome too.So,welcome sin-cal!
[G2 General] chaki-:
????? :laugh:

The water from the Sea doesn't doing you any good ;)
[G2 General] ooohhh2:
Exactly this. What will it improve? The G Flex ROMs are so awesome and contain all features i expected from a future ROM. Immersive Nav bar for selected apps, darker look, Splitview absolutely rocks (even better it opens links automatically in a second window).

I don't even care now about ART, what should it bring, smaller footprint? My phone runs lagfree already, i can't imagine it will run any better.

It's just this lust to have the latest and greatest, lol. But that's Android is all about. It keeps you occupied making everything better, even if the device near 'perfect' already.

I promised myself to not flash anything after getting myself the perfect phone. It just lasted like 2 days. :) So yeah LG, and dear xda devs, bring it on. We, flash junkies need our drugs already.
[G2 General] twigster:
Based on this response, I guess we should be asking when the kit Kat g-flex Rom will be released. Then you get the best of both worlds after the ports happen. I agree that the flex ports are pretty good.

In the end it all comes down to whether you prefer aosp or stock, and there are already some really decent aosp roms available.
[G2 General] mhoss48:
I only want 4.4 for Open GL3.0 which will improve gaming well. Dont know about daily usage.

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] NickRichard:
Lg g2 f320k

Can Anybody why my Lg G2 not have kitkat update yet? It's LG G2 F320K Korean Version . I'm live outside Korea.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
The other guy mentioned previously that those outside Korea with a F320 can't get the update. It seems to be restricted to the Korean region.
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
I don't see the point, really. KitKat will bring at best, negligible increases to the phone. It will 99% look the same, it won't really seem any faster, it won't work much better.

It's an incremental increase, that's it. It's made with some optimizations to make OLDER phones be able to run it, which does not really mean that our NEW phones will see a speed increase.

People get all geeked up about this, and in the end it will come to us in an OTA and most of us will be scratching our heads wondering why were were foaming at the mouths for months to get it. haha

Is it for bragging rights? So we can tell our geek friends, "hey, look what I got"...

I dunno, for me, I need more than that in an upgrade. If the largest noticeable improvement is the "4.4.2" listed under the phone info tab, then I just don't see it as much of an "upgrade"...
[G2 General] SNaReX:
It looks like you haven't been infected by ORD (Obsessive-ROM Updating Disorder)

Check the social group for ORDs. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=652857

You are really lucky... :) I envy you.
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
Well,I used to be, then I came to my senses...

3 years ago, 2 even, custom ROMs were the way to get the phone to work the way it should have out of the box, But no longer.

I have yet to see aq custom ROM that works as well as the stock one.

Most have instability, lockups, missing features, various performance issues, etc... And for what? Just to be able to say, "I have a custom ROM"?

No thanks. If that is the only benefit, I have a better use of my time. The notion of going back and spending countless hours tweaking, installing, fixing, setting up, etc... and then start over when the next new "Shiny" comes out... Screw dat. I need my phone to WORK, and I want to USE it, not fiddle with it endlessly.

So I quit cold turkey. If something really groundbreaking comes out, I might give it a shot. But I stopped drinking the kool aid awhile ago. Unless there is an actual tangible benefit to me, I am content to just wait for something that will provide that...
[G2 General] 20degrees:
Exactly the same as I. All I do now is root.

LG G2
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
Since I restored to stock,. I have not even rooted yet... Have not seen a need/use for it, other than disabling VZW Visual Voicemail, now that I am using Google Voice for that...
[G2 General] 20degrees:
I only rooted for ad blocker

LG G2
[G2 General] yoinker23:
Report: Only 5% of Korean LG G2 owners received KitKat update

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Only-5-of-Korean-LG-G2-owners-received-KitKat-update_id50828
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
Cool, so if it does roll out to everyone in Korea, then figure another 30-60 days for US carriers, and 60-90 days for Verizon...

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Ironically, the fact that people keep flashing every ROM they can get their hands on, says that the ROMs are not what they are cracked up to be, else they would be happy and stick with one. The fact that they have to go from ROM to ROM on a daily basis, suggests that whatever need they hope that the ROM will fulfill, is not being met, and so they keep searching...
[G2 General] amit_sen:
I have to say that the stock base is working absolutely flawlessly.

Root and install g2 xposed module and you don't need to have latest and greatest in g2.

Xposed modules is the biggest game changer for stock rom in my opinion. As it allows each and every options found in aosp roms.

I had DNA earlier and i flashed viperDNA rom on it and never knew a stock rom can have so much customizations without xposed.

That being said iam looking forward to lg 4.4 sources so that aosp development can be done with latest binaries rather with 4.2 sources which is the reason aosp roms are facing few issues.

Just my 2 cents ;)

Wishing everyone HNY2014.

G2 | ⓣⓐⓟⓐⓣⓐⓛⓚ | TF300T
[G2 General] shivkan:
MY only motive going for lg initially was the screen and the battery i knew i would hate the ui , having being with touchwiz(s3) but as it turns out i don care no more and pretty much love the stock experience ,rooted installed viper & am a happy man
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
That makes sense, although one has to wonder... what is there really to customize? I mean, there are free launchers that completely revamp the UI, without root, and without the danger of messing up the phone... You can achieve just about any look you can imagine, easily, for free, and not have to deal with any missing features, screens of death, etc...
[G2 General] mockrocker:
Installed AOSPA and couldn't be any happier. Good thing we have very dedicated devs out there to give us KitKat
[G2 General] skimilk44:
Haha I guess not, I guess also non tech enthusiasts wouldn't be able to tell without really looking at it. No physical home button for me should have told.

Either way, after I told them it was a G2, even then they had never heard of it before
[G2 General] amit_sen:
I like to customize my phone to fullest likw having small navbar size, removing clock from statusbar, colored softkeys to name a few. These thing you cant do with just changing launcher. You will need xposed mods for it. As i said, whether people admit or not without xposed mod most poeple will flock to aosp roms.

If people aren't even rooting your phone as a precaution, then i think xda is not the correct place for them as there are only handfull of threads which does good customizations without root in my opinion.

It all depends what customizations you require.

Different people and different needs ;)

G2 | ⓣⓐⓟⓐⓣⓐⓛⓚ | TF300T
[G2 General] walidhiphop:
Damn.....i love this guy....the truth has been spoken....
[G2 General] deathshead:
Hah this guy ^ truth. The stock,LG optimus UI tweaked seems to be the best.
[G2 General] jonstrong:
I've rooted many phones and tablets, flashed many many dozens of ROMs on my trusty old Galaxy Nexus. I like customization, but also started to find over the past year that I was using a number of the flashier mods less and less, even though ROMs like AOKP an PA offered so many features. Part of my motivation in the past was performance and convenience. It was great to keep refreshing the GNex, squeezing extra performance out of it and find ways to extend battery life (even with the 3000+ mah extended battery I was using).

The G2 feels to me like it's crossed a major threshold. Battery life is pretty incredible -- with the main attribute being that I can use the phone all day, not feel that I have to restrict my choice of activities, and simply not run out of juice before the end of the day -- that's huge. Performance is superb -- it's fluid, fast and I've experienced no lags or delays. LG's add-ins may be more or different than many like, but I'm actually finding the majority of the stock add-ons to be very useful and usable. There are only a handful of native themes available so far, but some of them are great, and it's just a matter of time before some of the clever devs who create for Apex and Nova port their themes to LGHome.

The nav bar / "soft buttons" are, clearly, tweakable. The stock OS gives you a number of choices, and at least one dev has already offered us an installable addition that provides different colored nav bar options -- without requiring root. It's just a matter of time, I believe, before launcher theme devs pick up on this, and we see a number of high quality themes - AND nav bar customizations offered and usable without root.

This is the first time in about 3 years that I haven't felt compelled to root within minutes of activating my phone. I still may -- and I'm browsing XDA every day, as I have for years to see what's new. But the experience with the stock OS, lock screen, home launcher, weather / clock app, and the various extra features (quick memo, slide aside, etc) are all so positive -- and if I'm not mistaken, I'm still seeing a fairly high number of issues in the various ROM and recovery threads suggesting less stability and poorer battery life than you get out of the box with the stock OS. This will change, no doubt, but I guess I've gotten to the point where the whole combination of stock features and experience gives custom ROMs some very stiff competition.

Doesn't mean that folks who feel as I do shouldn't frequent XDA anymore -- I still intend to keep up, may well wind up rooting and trying a custom ROM or mod down the road. Just that the stock G2 has raised the bar - significantly - and mods and customization will really have to be compelling for me to start crack flashing again. For the moment -- really enjoying pure stock (with all the bloat apps that permit it disabled in App Manager -- vast majority succumb to this).
[G2 General] bberryhill0:
Where would I find that?

Swyped from my LG G2 VS980 using Tapatalk 12-31
[G2 General] SquireSCA:
An excellent reply. I have been using custom ROMs on the Droid X, HTC Tbolt, HTC Rezound, EVO 4G, RazR HD and Nexus 7. Seen some really cool things.

But at some point one has to ask oneself... "Do I want to spend my time setting up and tweaking my device, or do I actually want to *USE* it?"

I have seen stock ROMs get better and better. I liked Blur on the RazR HD... Sense has come a loooong way on the latest phones from HTC. Touchwiz is busy, but has a lot of cool things. LG, to be honest, is nice and slick. I have not seen a single ROM that as as fluid and smooth as the stock LG UI. Not a one.

I have also seen ROMs evolve from being stripped down and optimized... simplified... to becoming more complex with more added bells and whistles than any stock ROM.

Maybe I am just getting old(41), but I have been tweaking and nessing with computers and now phones, since the 1980's... During the 90's I was huge into overclocking and tweaking PC's and write one of the first articles on system cooling for Joe at overclockers.com

But over the past few years, I decided it was time to stop messing with the PC and just USE it. So I stopped building them and when I need a new gaming PC I ring up Dell, have them build me a PC with a fat video card and tons of RAM and have them ship it. Take it out, install my games and blow chit up. LOL

I got into phones and learned the same lessons... At the end of the day, I need my phone to stay in touch with friends, family, clients. I need it to do the things that I bought it for... Being able to tweak the tint of the navbar... who cares? What am I, some 14 year old girl that feels the need to accessorize my phone to match my shoes? haha

At some point, the law of diminishing returns kicked in. My time is more valuable than spending 3 hours a day tweaking a stupid phone. I keep reading up on the stuff, but my tweaking time is put on hold until something actually worthwhile comes around. I had KitKat on my N7. It was a whole lot of nothing, IMHO. It brought very little to the table, apart from specs on paper and some slightly revamped icons... Hardly worth the wait and hype.

So I stick to stock for now, and when the OTA's come I will gladly accept them, but I am not gonna lose sleep waiting for them.

AOSP is old hat. It looks dated, doesn't do anything that stock can't do for 99% of the users out there, etc... iOS7 was a nice step forward for their UI. Android really hasn't progressed in that department in a couple years. AOSP looks like it is 3 years old, and the stock skins from LG, Samsung, etc... are the only things keeping Android working and looking fresh and polished...
[G2 General] Dri94:
Good to see you in the g2 community. Your dna roms were great
[G2 General] hydeah:
Maybe if there was any distinguishing factor. Oh wait, there is. Actually it's still a shame LG did not promote G2 enough. That's what he was trying say. People won't confuse an iPhone with Samsung but they will think an LG phone is a Samsung.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 General] vPro97:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Only-5-of-Korean-LG-G2-owners-received-KitKat-update_id50828
[G2 General] jonstrong:
There are a few in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2558300
[G2 General] hamad138:
I think ART is the only usefull.feature on 4.4, if they dont.include it , it will be very bad
[G2 General] jonstrong:
Much as I'd like ART, I'd still rather move to 4.4.x rather than staying on 4.2.2, even if ART isn't available. That said...even if it doesn't show up on day one in developer options for the G2, as it has with 4.4.x on other phones, that doesn't necessarily prove anything. It's conceivable that the Developer Options page won't show the option to change the runtime to ART, but the option may still exist in the ROM itself. If that's the case, it's conceivable that one of the apps that surfaces hidden app activities would allow us to flip the switch and set the runtime to ART.

I'd really like to see this available for us, but won't lose sleep over it in the meantime.
[G2 General] da_reeseboy:
I understand what you mean... I stuck with stock based for a little bit because I preferred how it just worked. 4.4 has brought 2 upgrades that I enjoy tho -

1. voice commands always on with the screen on - I'm always using this while driving - getting directions, making calls, sending texts.

2. tap and pay enabled. I'm on VZW so tap and pay was disabled on stock, but it works on 4.4.
[G2 General] bberryhill0:
ART sounds good:

" When you ask iPhone users how they feel about the look and feel of Android smartphones, they often complain that Android feels laggy, despite the fact that hardware on both phones is top notch. Perceived lag/delay is the result of JIT compilation and it more or less disappears after switching to ART."

http://www.infinum.co/the-capsized-...ntroducing-the-new-android-runtime-in-kit-kat

Swyped from my LG G2 VS980 using Tapatalk 12-31
[G2 General] rquinn19:
And here everytime I pick up an iPhone it feels laggy to me.
[G2 General] Avide:
+1 :rolleyes:
[G2 General] bberryhill0:
Eww.. You pick up iPhones?!?

Swyped from my LG G2 VS980 using Tapatalk 12-31
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Happy New Year guys...

Hope this year brings us quick updates :P

LG G2
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Haha

Edit: do you also post on Android Forums? I think you posted in my thread about that Ringke case?
[G2 General] fantom999:
Surely no one can help with Kit kat for F320L?
[G2 General] vPro97:
It should be coming to you this week or the next as an OTA update according to phonearena.com