yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 General] shriom_manerker:
regarding the camera, so most of youll have complained with the slow focusing. lets first of all state that the camera is excellent in GOOD light conditions ! it only goes kaboom in low light situations. yes true the focusing in low light takes ages and the WORST part is (if u have your flash on that is) , even if you're focused before presing the shutter key, (you press the key) and for some weird ass reason itll turn on the flash as if its a TORCH, refocus AGAIN , and then fire the flash again ! thats some confusing algorithm applied by lg ! i mean why refocus with flash if your already focused :| seems like they're bad at if-else statements :p (yes i know its more complicated than that ) but this can be easily rectified by an update, i hope they do that. meanwhile, is the camera module open source ? i'd like to play with it if it is
[G2 General] BrandonShea:
you have a korean g2?
[G2 General] vPro97:
Each one to his own. Stop arguing like kids. If everyone had the same taste, there wouldn't be thousands of options and the world would be a boring place.
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Camera is still the same....for me its good enough.
[G2 General] hamad138:
How is the performance compared to the older version?

Can u try ART? Remember if u turn ART on , power off ur device for 30seconds after restart
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Nope I won't try ART...its smooth and does everything I need it to do already without a single hiccup.

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It runs and feels identical to the Nexus 5. The camera for me...has not changed at all. It still takes time to focus taking bad lighting shots. Option to use ART. The only real difference is that it is twice as responsive to swipes than 4.4...and apps like XDA Premium run like butter.
[G2 General] dondavis007:
What's the version number of your camera, should be in settings, app etc? Thanks

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[G2 General] youngpic48:
4.6.12
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Low level lighting shot with flash.

LG did an excellent job with 4.4.2

Exactly as smooth as any Nexus device and I have them all.
[G2 General] hamad138:
How would u compare it to 4.2.2?

Also i suggest u to try out ART, it wont break ur device and if u dont like it u can switch back to dalvik.

ART also makes scrolling much smoother+apps will start faster :)
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Its 1000 times better than 4.2.2. Until all apps support ART I will leave it as is. I'm loving my G2 even more now. Was gonna use the N5 as a daily driver (because it was smoother)...but it doesn't have the storage or camera as the G2.
[G2 General] monkboy24:
Or the battery. Every since I got my g2 and put stock 4.4.2 on it my n5 is just sitting as my spare lol
[G2 General] votinh:
On previous post, you said "smoother and less bugs". What kind of bug have you encountered?

On the above post, you said "1000 time better than 4.2.2". So was the JB 4.2.2 so bad and too many bugs?

Confusing!
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Confused cause i thought you understood that I upgraded from 4.4.....4.4.2 is smoother than 4.4...4.4.2 is 1000 times better than 4.2.2. On 4.4 Chrome used to have black blocks when I switched tabs. Certain apps closed with no animation. Just a slight hang then bam!

4.2.2 was decent but not responsive like 4.4...bugs like apps crashing... Choppiness on scrolling etc.

Even Nova was choppy when swiping or the app drawer animation would lag.

Update: 4.4.2. Even when Hangouts is set as the default SMS app...if I go into contacts and tap the SMS icon it will use the LG SMS app. Didn't do that on 4.4. Also when on the recent tab the app icon on certain apps wouldn't show up. Sometimes when I clear all apps and close the recent apps it would do an animation of my last used app.
[G2 General] citytrader:
Two bugs in 4.2.2, delayed notifications to save battery and bad management of bluetooth devices, it has problems with some apps.
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
It's kernel bug, not ROM bug.
[G2 General] citytrader:
Correct, but is the kernel that comes with 4.2.2
[G2 General] Hesam.:
fix bug network on the call ???

sorry for bad my engilish
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
And you can change kernel and still have 4.2.2.
[G2 General] votinh:
Got it,

Didn't know that you were on 4.4.

I haven't gotten the feel of KK yet so I really don't know how much "better" it will be. To me 4.2.2 is already so smooth and I never have a single FC.

I hate using Hangouts though.

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Don't know what you meant by "bad management of bluetooth devices".

What's wrong with it? I've been using it since day one and haven't seen any problem or maybe it's there but I don't know???

Also no delay notification that I'm aware of.
[G2 General] citytrader:
The delay in the notification is a problem known, it takes more and less 1 minute to the notification to arrive when the phone is in deep sleep with wifi, changing the kernel solves the issue...

Bluetooth is another issue, for example connect the bluetooth headset and hear poweramp for example, after that close poweramp and open skype and place a call, you will hear on the bluetooth headset that skype is calling but as soon as the other party answer the call, the sound is routed to the speaker, changing the kernel solves the issue.
[G2 General] monkboy24:
I'm surprised that no dev have pulled the ota yet
[G2 General] abdel12345:
To update on verizon do I have to be using a verizon sim? I'm using lycamobile abs it grays out checking fir updates and doesn't let me click on it
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
I'm saying whenever the LG 4.4 update comes out.

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It's tough for people like att users who have a locked bootloader.

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Wait a sec, I thought this was XDA. My mistake.

If the majority of xda users run stock and don't root then what is the point of this site. That wasn't the idea, when the site was created, I don't think. You guys should honestly maybe find a different site.

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[G2 General] dondavis007:
It's not like you could swap and stay untouched stock, so for most people it's a bug that comes with the phone :)

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[G2 General] Enter The Nexus:
It just came out like yesterday. Give devs a break, and I doubt they have Korean G2s to pull the update from.
[G2 General] Deni_NS:
Well we are here on xda and our devices aren't touchless :cyclops:
[G2 General] OrionBG:
Guys, several days ago I upgraded my secondary phone (a Dual SIM Jiayu G3) with the Motorola Moto G (Dual SIM). Two days ago Motorola began seeding the 4.4.2 to the Moto G Dual SIM and now my Moto G is faster then my G2 :( I have changed the virtual machine to ART and the phone is so fluid... I really hope that the G2 Update will at least get close to what I see on the Moto G. The difference is staggering, especially when you compare the hardware specs of the two devices!
[G2 General] joanjgm:
Any news on ota KitKat?
[G2 General] vPro97:
Orion if you read a few posts above, you would have your answer regarding the smoothness of the G2 running 4.4.2 ;)
[G2 General] rbudiharso:
OTA 4.4.2 arrived in Korea..

According to this http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G2-gets-Android-4.4.2-in-Korea-along-with-support-for-ART_id52289, LG G2 OTA 4.4.2 already rolling in Korea...
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Yes there are a couple people who have confirmed it here already as will I think a page or two back
[G2 General] votinh:
Hmmm, what kind of notification you're talking about? mail? gmail? sms? I don't experience any of those.

By saying "changing kernel", what kernel r u talking about? custom kernel on stock ROM?

R u on custom ROM or bone-stock LG ROM?

About the bluetooth, again, I don't have any issue you described, currently using Plantronics M50 and Plantronics 233.
[G2 General] citytrader:
The delay is mostly with whatsapp or gtalk, with sms I don't because I don't use it, to solve this issue you should use custom kernel, about bluetooth, it happens with any device including the issue that doesn't recognizes the bluetooth volume control. I'm on stock rom on D802SEA
[G2 General] eths83600:
Sorry, I guess I've enter the wrong topic, I thought it was about Kit Kat.

Wait... what! ?
[G2 General] taheromar:
The problem is that most of the off topic replies are those complaining about off topic replies... mind blown..
[G2 General] votinh:
I'm also using Whatsapp daily, never seen any of those issues.

As mentioned above, with both Plantronics headsets, I have no problem whatsoever.

Anyway, I'm on AT&T bone-stock.

Let's see if KK does have any slight improvement on my end or it's the same as 4.2.2
[G2 General] clapper66:
Well seeing the Korean g2 has kitkat I hope it helps with the development of aosp kitkat Roms. Hopefully fixing some of the small bugs that are annoying.
[G2 General] ricecake2000:
Maybe since Samsung is starting to roll out 4.4.2 here in the state's LG will hop on the bandwagon and beat them so they can say they updated faster than Samsung. ?

I hope verizon doesn't keep the blue toggles and battery. I would not be so meh about it if it was blue and black toggles but the grey annoys me and I feel grey and white might not look so bad.
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Grey and white is definitely better than grey and blue I reckon. I wish they used the same grey in the notification bar and toggles as the one in the settings
[G2 General] hamad138:
Maybe users from korea can make a video and post a short summary of kitkat 4.4.2
[G2 General] Cst79:
LG will launch KitKat for G2 in the same day that Samsung will unveil the Galaxy S5 in order to offset some of the S5 buzz.

My opinion, of course :)
[G2 General] abdel12345:
+1 though there is one on YouTube it didn't show much
[G2 General] hamad138:
Also would be nice if youtube hd videos still lag on 4.4
[G2 General] android404:
Yeah, that would be awesome! ;)
[G2 General] Ltilt2:
No it wouldn't.
[G2 General] paysen:
My next device wont be an LG. Really, they are so slow. Cant believe this.
[G2 General] marcus7775:
Hi everyone i have a question i found this on miui.com and can we use those rom's on d802 international version ??

http://www.miui.com/thread-1614517-1-1.html
[G2 General] H0schi:
wrong thread, dude
[G2 General] marcus7775:
thanks :)
[G2 General] michmeister:
Not to mention they're are zero 4.4 kit Kat roms listed for this phone.
[G2 General] marsisabar:
Loving ParanoidAndroid on LG-G2 D803 (Rogers)

I finally decided to stop waiting for an official LG kitkat rom and just root and flash my LG G2 and I could not be happier.

ROM : ParanoidAndroid 4.4.2 BETA4 (release 02/07 and 02/09)

I'm still testing battery, I know that takes some time to settle.

However, everything else is amazing. It really does feel great going back to stock after a custom UI like LG's. I was using Nova Launcher anyway but still there are other LG quirks I disliked.

I am also REALLY liking the "immersive" mode in this ROM. You can autohide the softkeys, the notification bar, or both. It helps alot with games to have true fullscreen and not accidentally hit the home button.

I did get the LG camera APK because it works better with the hardware and has more tweaking options (also I hear that it captures better quality pics but I have yet to test that).

Bluetooth works, GPS works, knock on works, knock off works, camera works, LTE works, Wifi works. I don't know why this ROM is still in Beta.
[G2 General] michmeister:
Nice,but you didn't bother to mention what Rom you are talking about.
[G2 General] Haesslich:
He said it in the title - ParanoidAndroid for the G2 on a D803.
[G2 General] michmeister:
Weird that didn't come out in my dad app. They're was no title
[G2 General] Jmelendez1:
I don't see a title neither
[G2 General] JMM2009:
For anyone needing to do downgrade there 4.4 ota to shipped rom i have cut and pasted aguide in the general section
[G2 General] robin786:
Why is it for Kit Kat roms, the status bar icons are switched to grey rather than the manufacturers' original colours?

I've seen this in Samsung phones & now in G2 Korean version.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] Android The Greek:
Google required it for 4.4 that all manufacturers use white icons

IT helps with transparent status bars
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I kind of got attached to the blue of the g2... but I said the same to the white when I had the nexus 5 lol. I'm sure it won't be too hard to modanyways
[G2 General] russells.android:
Does the update have immersive mode?
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Yup on apps that support it.

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No difference from 4.2.2, just smoother with transparent notification and nav on Nova Apex etc. Just watch a video of the Nexus 5...looks and feels exactly the same. Lol
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Thats what i want + Trim + Art + White icons + immersive mode...

I think this much is enough for a change :)
[G2 General] Phoost:
Checked the new 4.4 Rom for 10min and removed it.

QuickPic told "Goggle doesn't allow Apps to write to external SD card" when I'm tried to move pictures to SD.

No, thanks, this restriction is b...

(Is there any XPosed module or whatever for a workaround ?)
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Check this tread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2616502

It's new Google's restriction upon "free open-source" Android
[G2 General] exec99:
So this kitkat update everyone is waiting for removes support for usb otg storage? Great... :/
[G2 General] OptimusL:
What? How is that the case when the Nexus 5 works with usb otg?
[G2 General] jiteshj:
This happening only for devices that have external sd. .. No problems for non korean
[G2 General] baileyjr:
Its part of Android 4.4.2 I had a fix for me Xperia Z Ultra, can't remember exactly what it was but I think you had to edit a file in the filesystem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help but just to let you know there is a fix available if you look around.

edit try this fix http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
[G2 General] monkboy24:
There is no write protection problems with kk guys. Just wait for the update to roll around and see. And otg is just fine to
[G2 General] youngpic48:
In 4.4.2 you can write to SD again.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Youngpic can u test youtube hd videos if it still lags
[G2 General] levizx:
Every FLAGSHIP has it, unless you want to compare G2 with $100 prepaid phones.
[G2 General] mannequin:
never did i have "lags" with any video on this phone, leave away YouTube ones. i'm not even quite sure if people in this thread are using the same phone. stock rom here and i don't experience anything that's mentioned in this thread regarding the stock rom but sure, all the stories of how KK magically fixes everything is a good laugh.
[G2 General] marsisabar:
I never saw any video lag either. Not on the stock ROM or even custom ROMs.
[G2 General] geonahta:
I haven't checked the s4 forum since I sold mine. I decided to read a bit. S4 doesn't have 4.4. There is a leak that the community has managed to stabilise. That is not official support. They are only now releasing it officially, guess where, in Korea. Lg released it in Korea a month or so.
[G2 General] votinh:
I thought SKorean had 4.4 last year and they do have 4.4.2 NOW.

What else do you expect? Android 5.0? or you meant the U.S. variant of G2?

None of Verizon SGS4 has 4.4 left alone 4.4.2
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Xperia Z1 has kit kat?
[G2 General] carbon12:
Indeed... I'll take KK when it comes, but I'm really in no hurry.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Nope, you can't
[G2 General] ericsmissingteeth:
update on using art: gta san andreas is running buggy. i switched back to dalvik and it ran fine but android was a little bit slow. switched it back to art. san andreas will have to wait
[G2 General] jiteshj:
Slower than 4.2.2?
[G2 General] ericsmissingteeth:
dalvik runs slower but you can play gta san andreas

art is faster but san andreas isn't working

both are 4.4.2

i can't remember how fast 4.2.2 was exactly but i'd say it was the same speed as 4.4.2 with dalvik
[G2 General] hamad138:
Eric is art faster than dalvik for u?

And since u first disliked art, whats now ur opinion now?
[G2 General] naturecannon:
With the N7 2013 we have the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries which is faster than ART and no issues with apps (xposed) and games! Oh, and less storage space usage.

With my lack of knowledge in this area, wonder if we can get the same for the KK LG G2 :confused::
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Most OEM phones already have them, they only really speed up Nexus devices which don't have them. To keep costs down Google dont license them from Qualcomm.
[G2 General] exec99:
So what's the truth? Some of you say yes you can, while others say you can't.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
It worked on my nexus 5 stock 4.4.2 it should work on the g2 as well.
[G2 General] ericsmissingteeth:
like i said, i like art but some problems with apps. san andreas and the new ssx (awesome game) to name two i have had problems with

but it is enough faster that i'm keeping it despite the problems
[G2 General] hamad138:
Im asking because.u said art laggs a bit
[G2 General] youngpic48:
I have LTE so it doesn't lag...on my WiFi it depends cause its finicky.

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Yup you can. I do. I use Quikpic to transfer photos,PNG icons and videos to my external SD... Isn't that writing to it?
[G2 General] bender_007:
according to https://twitter.com/LG_G2

---@_NattochDag_ Camera glitch fix included in 4.4.2 :)

---How many of you are eagerly waiting for #KitKat ? Stay tuned its coming sooon!
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
I would say the difference is negligible. I only noticed that now on ART QRemote fires faster, in like 1 sec, on Dalvik it started so slow, like 3 secs to wait. And octane benchmarks got a little bump as I checked http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50202848&postcount=48

But GPU now give less in benches cause CPU stays way cooler, throttles earlier than before

I tried now and I can prove that Quikpic can't write to SD card and even goes with warning "Since 4.4 Google doesn't allow to write to SD card"

I tried to copy some pics from one folder on SD to another folder
[G2 General] vPro97:
Can't you disable thermal throttling and thus let it go hotter?
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
I can't, my cpu overheats and I got a bootloop because of that. Probably there's not enough trermal compound above my CPU
[G2 General] vPro97:
So that's an issue you had with 4.2.2 as well?
[G2 General] exec99:
What about other file editors? Have you tried copying other files to external sd?
[G2 General] MazdaGTI:
Can someone comment this?
[G2 General] mannequin:
is it too early to say if Google Wallet will work on US variants with KK? if i'm not mistaken, Samsung's 4.4 update still blocks it for US.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
I had it on 4.2.2 and on 4.4.2 I even didn't try to disable thermal daemon. I think it will bootloop. Some G2 have poor heat dissipation I presume, and some have very good
[G2 General] hamad138:
Do u have 4.4.2 on ur device?
[G2 General] player911:
I like the EXTREME IMMERSION mode using Xposed and how it changes the bars based on the apps title bar. I don't know why Google doesn't just do this by default? Stock Immersion mode would be a downgrade.

Supposedly from what I've heard, KitKat is already at the carrier level in the US. Verizon has really been cranking updates out ahead of the other carriers. I'm actually quite surprised this round.
[G2 General] Robisgnarly:
Edit above ;)
[G2 General] Bobaroo:
Was US 4.4 even released on the S4 yet?

I know that google wallet works on Moto X and HTC One with 4.4 on Verizon.
[G2 General] robin786:
Can you put up some screenshot? Sounds cool the way you describe it.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] WheresTrent:
FYI – this isn't a verified Twitter account and looks very suspect.
[G2 General] mannequin:
the information regarding them blocking Google Wallet again comes from the "beta" builds.
[G2 General] felipondrioxcl:
What do you think guys? G2 International will have 4.4 or 4.4.2?
[G2 General] citytrader:
Its confirmed it will get 4.4.1.27 :laugh:
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Probably 4.4. I saw earlier in the thread someone posted saying that lg wool release 4.4 not 4.4.2 because 4.4.2 was just fixes for nexus 5. I'm not sure if that's true though and I'd still rather have the latest update
[G2 General] wargreymon89:
I would bet 4.4.2 since that's what the lab rats have, I mean Koreans.
[G2 General] abdel12345:
I hope that we get latest version. I didn't kite Koreans already got it. Lucky:p
[G2 General] abdel12345:
Any verizon users that are using tmobile getting this issue? It doesn't let me check New updates. It's grayed out on check New.
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Choose "copy to" instead of "move to" and select an external SD folder. That's "writing" to sd. Your lying if you say that you can't.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
That's what I got. See for yourself if I'm lying or not

And I chose "Copy to..."
[G2 General] 6ril1:
Hi, what's your ROM please ? STOCK 4.4.2 ?

Impossible to write to usb OTG too ?
[G2 General] youngpic48:
What model G2 are you using? Are you on 4.4.2? Cause I just copied photos to SD 5 minutes ago. You on stock or custom? Makes no sense. Your G2 might be a China copy. Lol

How do you post videos on here? Send me your email and I'll send you a video of me copying useless photos to SD.
[G2 General] AntiCommon:
Any ETA on 4.4 release for D800?

sooner that releases the sooner aeon rom can get an update to 4.4 :)
[G2 General] youngpic48:
Here's the video of "writing to external SD"
[G2 General] OptimusL:
Korean users also got 4.4.2 for their phones so I doubt the rest of us will only get 4.4
[G2 General] dibo1979:
LG G2 K.K update

I am from Poland and i get information that we will have K.K update for LG g2 second half of March from our international provider.:laugh:
[G2 General] youngpic48:
You can also use the stock LG File Manager to create folders and transfer files to external SD
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Yeah, stock works fine, I never said that stock programs can't use SDcard in Kitkat. It's market apps that now can't use it since KK

Says "Sign in to continue to Google Drive" and I won't have any Google accounts ever

Didn't you see http://thedaywefightback.org/ banner on xda yesterday?

Strange, it was bootlooping on 4.2.2, but now on KK I can boot with throttling off. And only some benches like geekbench and antutu makes phone restart saying something for a blink in a white window

And now I've got sub 500ms result in Sunspider javascript benchmark, ART + no throttling makes wonders
[G2 General] youngpic48:
You said you could not copy files to SD. You said "no you can't" now your telling me you can't use 3rd party apps. SMDH...I use Quickpic to copy and paste photos or videos. What's your email bruh cause you must need proof or your using a fake China phone with KK 4.4.2....I'll email you a video. The NSA can read my boring emails all they want...or SMS or my location.
[G2 General] hamad138:
Youngpic can u make a video.of kitkat? On 4.4 u can choose an a app to do it
[G2 General] Alleks1802:
Is there already an official release date for the international D802?
[G2 General] Dedzdedz:
End of March i think so

Dedz LG-d802 Stock Rooted
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
I can't copy files

on SD card by wireless transfer

. I can't copy

by third party apps

. Only can with stock FM.

For example, I used to use Android TotalCommander to swap files between external and internal storage, with 2 windows open. With stock file manager it's too cumbersome, I can't have 2 folders in 2 parts of screen

I believe you, maybe you have 320L and it has tweaked by LG ROM. But mine is F320K V21D from KTelecom, and my SD is RO for 3rd party apps
[G2 General] votinh:
Try Xplorer yet?
[G2 General] felipondrioxcl:
G2 mini will be unveiling tomorrow, maybe we have the update after the that. G2 mini maybe have 4.4