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[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
no, actually, I just realized I didn't.

Now when I try (Myth is the only way I know)(option 5) it gets stuck after saying it's going to root the phone - but it's already rooted.

[MENTION=1907864]Technofreak[/MENTION] said he had to use a different computer (I just got a 2nd AHD) so I just tried uninstalling the drivers and will try to re-install...

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No it just hangs with

how can I bypass root and just unlock the bootloader?
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
As I said try a different PC and try again. I did all that and the only solution for me was the new PC. It have to do something with the adb fastboot not responding. The PC will recognize the phone but not the adb fastboot driver.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
but what proc were you using? Myth?

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Thanks for all your patience and I'll be hitting a bunch of thanks buttons over the next few days (I'm only allowed 8/day)

My alternate, a laptop, zipped through the options without affecting the phone. But then I caught that USB Debugging was unchecked, checked it, and on the orig mainframe did it. So......

I made 2 errors:

I had not double checked that USB debugging was on.

I had not unlocked the bootloader.

My new home is the rearmost outhouse way out back.

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and I'll double thank [MENTION=5119654]IronTechmonkey[/MENTION] for proofing 9-7-14 jbbl. I'll use that to proof the "new" phone. EDIT: and it's (9-7) rock solid and fast!!!
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
ok i am runing cm jb_bl from 8-10-2014 should i upgrade to the latest nighlty are there any more improvements?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960_jbbl/
[Motorola Atrix HD] devilsking:
Yep :) new nightly is quite good and smooth. Go ahead.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Testifying to what devilsking said. I've been bumping to the latest nightly at least once a week (now on 9/7/14).

Since shortly before the epinter jbbl builds became available on the CM website these have been extremely solid (also with that nice quiet processor state that you would expect for an idle state but don't get out of the combo ROMS).

If you are feeling cautious you could wait until the CM M10 release next week but these nightlys are indeed quite polished and stable.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
yeah - latest nightly once every week or 2 is what I seem to do. They seem to get faster. I find them all very solid. I don't get crashes.

EDIT: do they really do any more testing on a "M" or snapshot.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
All the testing is done by you and other users; that's why they're called user debug builds.

This is only my bet (don't take my words for granted) but there has never been anything more stable about 'stable builds'; just a name they've picked at the time. Same as snapshot or M releases.... A week prior to them, they probably check at all the feedbacks, look at the pending commits and probably avoid the ones that are more susceptible of causing issues, then they stamp it. This is barely a way for them to get a (monthly now) reference point (build) and some sort of eas(ier) quality control. If each and everyone would report back issues daily on nightly, imagine the "this was/will/might be fix in the following nightly".... It's easier to say: know issue for Mx version, try latest nightly or wait for next M build...

Ok, all that above doesn't sound to convincing to me or very clear; I need more coffee.... But I hope you get my point somehow... :o

Btw I'm really glad they stopped using the 'stable' tag though.... :thumbup:

/AL
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
That was my guess. I figure the nightlies are as good as the monthlies - plus I don't have to wait a month to flash a new one!!! I do try to keep an eye on the 925/926 thread in case anything real bad comes along, but haven't seen anything that would impact jbbl folk.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Hence the barrage of commits getting tossed around in the week or so before an M release; As stable features are being solidified and others are being scrapped. Have watched a few things go through the pipe like that including center status bar clock, left right typing cursor arrows in navbar. Also seen a few new recent additions removed in the past few days. Maybe not officially tested but certainly polished by the feedback.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Talking of new additions, here's a ss I just took to illustrate one the recent changes brought to the way contacts are managed which I would have preferred left unchanged...

I messed up with dns and other stuff recently and had to go back to nandroid of August 21 nightly when -like I suspected and mentioned before- realised that my Skype contacts were now showing beside the other tabs EVEN IF I'm not logged in to Skype [not even loaded in background process].

So unless I'm wrong and did not set up, flash the rom (cleanly), wait long enough for contacts to merge properly or whatever with recent nightly builds (and please prove me wrong here :D), those Skype tabs do not appear in such conditions on any nightly past Aug 23 rd....

If any of you (on a recent nightly clean flash) could verify and report on that; I'd greatly appreciate. Just open up your dialer, press "All contacts" btn and then long press the avatar of a contact having both phone and Skype accnt details **that you would have "joined" previously**: [login to Skype, go back to dialer and long press a contact, menu/edit, menu/join, choose your skype contact and click done. Log out Skype then go back to check].

I've tried it numerous times on 4 nightly builds past Aug 24th and always got no such tabs if NOT logged in AND two contacts lines: (one for phone/email + 1 for Skype - not respecting the joined contacts) otherwise.

Not a big deal really, but it just feels weird to have contacts entries appearing and disappearing from the 'all contacts' and People app depending on if I'm last logged-in to Skype or not.... :(

/AL
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Running 9/7/14 nightly - clean flashed but significantly built upon. I think my setup precludes an accurate replication of the scenario, particularly joined contacts, but I tested and noticed that a Skype contacts category only appears in the People app when Skype is logged in. This sort of makes sense because multiple Skype accounts could be used so the contacts for the presently logged in account is added the native address books. That said, even when logged in to Skype I did not see any of the individual Skype contacts in the People app, nor did I see anything Skype related following your path through the dialer.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, thanks for checking it out; it seems to confirm what Ive experienced.

At first, I a going to reply ah yes multi-users (cm) and multi-Skype accounts makes senses but thinking about it, every user can add multiple accounts to sync in settings. I've never tried to add 2 Skype accounts, but I imagine it should work....

Well, for that part, you have to make sure that Skype is present and set in CM Accounts settings.

But I guess you should have done that already. Really strange that you see no Skype contacts in People app; not even merged into either?

Anyhow, I still believe that all that works better on August 21st nightly than on lastest builds...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I wasn't even considering multiple CM users. Just multiple potential Skype log-ins used in the same droid Skype installation, but CM users is another factor. Also, I've also never added the Skype account through the Settings menu; just by logging in to the Skype App (as far as I can remember).

Nope not present. Found that even in Settings where I would expect to see Skype accounts along with Google accounts, no Skype item appears unless I'm logged into Skype then that one Skype account shows up. It should be noted that this Skype installation was not created in Settings (as described above), was restored from TBU rather than installed from Playstore, and I disable all forms of auto-syncing and cross-App sharing. Don't know if those are complicating factors but it's still odd to see accounts be created and removed so willy nilly at the Settings level.

I don't doubt it considering how many recent commits involved the address books and dialer. Will keep an eye out for this next week when I jump to my next nightly or M10. May even restore an old backup along the way for comparison.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Oupsy Oooouups!!

I knew I was having a caffeine deficiency earlier on when first posting about this...

Silly me, I did not verify Skype's settings after restoring the nand backup.... Turns out Skype's contacts and account are shown only when I'm signed in only also.

I did not uncheck the default "Sign in automatically" and neither have I checked the option for Skype's Status statusbar notification... So I had no clue that Skype was ON all that time. So as far as contacts goes; I was constantly logged in; even if I later turned off data and wifi...

My turn to go live in the woods for a while...:(

But, the contacts joining still does work better I believe. At least, no extra contacts added in People; just more info displayed within the "joined" contact....
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Anybody know a good CPU setting? Mine is at 384-15400...Any suggestions?
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
This blog post by CM should explain what the Milestone releases are. In short: they lag a little behind the Nightlies, and are intended to focus on bug fixes and avoid "experimental features" that find their way into recent Nightlies. But as AL said, they don't do any more testing. That's done by you.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Hey! I think it's great that you 2 got together and solved a problem. I don't skype on the phone so it was beyond me. Kudos!!! :highfive:

very nice sleuthing [MENTION=5119654]IronTechmonkey[/MENTION] !
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Forehead slap. I also forgot about the Skype status radio button. So the context sensitive appearance of Skype accounts may be by design, and Skype's propensity for auto-loging in along with the ability to hide notification can indeed create a rabbit hole for testing.

This may be a bit lateral but is another indication of the inter-connectivity of the various account types in Settings: I keep Skype and native Email app frozen by TBU. If I defrost Skype to use it and fail to also defrost the native Email app I will get an Exchange Services FC when attempting to log-in to or sign out of Skype, although Skype seems to run OK twixt those 2 events. I've seen this before with other things that touch account management at the Settings level.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
9/12/14 nightly is up. Thanks to niksy+ for letting us know. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55411387&postcount=4211
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
cm-11-20140912-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl

pa_gapps-modular-micro-4.4.4-20140901-signed

Philz Touch 6.19.3

Atrix HD/MB886

Same old same old - which is a good thing these days. Looking good: Wifi, gps, mobile data, LTE, sensors, dialer, ART, themed based boot animation, charge while powered off

One oddity (to no apparent functional detriment): When I connect the powered off phone to charger, the battery icon is sometimes blue and other times green. Usually starts blue then turns green after phone is disconnected from then reconnected to charger.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, technically, we did not solve a problem since realizing my mistake about Skype's settings destroyed my hopes of seeing CM's People app and contacts to permanently displaying my Skype contacts info (as opposed to only when logged in). But that being said, at least I will no longer hope for this and move on to M10 next week with more peace of mind ;).

Well, from this it seems like Skype needs the email app for push notification somehow.... Oh well, let's see how things will evolve with contacts management, like we both mentioned, there's been a lot of commits in this regards lately so the good news is that it's been looked at. Hopefully, something good will come out of it eventually...

After all, this is basic phone functionality; I just wish that this is given priority by cm11 devs because it is quite a painful process to do multiple-source contacts clean up and merging.

But anyhow, I'm not ranting here and I'm very appreciative of CM11.

Cheers,

/AL
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Thanks - this is good because you are doing a much better proofing than I was of a new ROM. Yeah, I remember seeing a blue one but didn't think about it at the time - maybe it's battery level dependent? Damn these builds are good!!!

I was able to resurrect the SIM holder on the old AHD, sorta, so now I have a good usable spare phone. Nice!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
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[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, I just got sent this one by PM... So I'll just cut and paste it here with my reply included [I suggest to read it through..]:
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Thanks Al - I just deleted that request a few seconds ago as I realized that simply getting a good contacts backup app would do me. I am slowly disconnecting from google and that's where my contacts were.

why/how PM?????
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Trying to wrap my mind around this one. Are you sure it could not have been some sync thing that removed/changed contacts after the new app touched them and perhaps changed some flag about their sync status?

I've never lost contacts when falling back to a nandroid backup no matter the prior condition of the phone. The only time I’ve lost contacts have been instances where autosync messes up my attempts to achieve cloud-less-ness like so:

My contacts live in MS Outlook from where they are synced to phone via MyPhoneExplorer (by wifi or usb) at initial configuration and thereafter. On the phone they reside in the address book for the primary google account but are never synced on-line. To achieve this: during the initial configuration I disable background data, go on-line, create google accounts, enable/disable autosync, in a particular order that prevents any contacts or calendar items from syncing to cloud.

Getting to the point: A couple of times when playing with settings I allowed google to sync the empty on-line address book over my phone's contacts. If I had not caught it the synchronization/deletion would have spread to Outlook on the computer (although I do have a backup of that). For some reason, perhaps an irrational denial about the fallibility of nandroid backups, I think yours is a sync issue. (not counting the limitations about including Skype contacts)

In any event, on Androids, that area where the contacts are stored is a messy place which is no surprise considering how many different ways there are to access it and different ways people like to use it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Thanks for your reply on this,

I felt the exact same way about this and could barely believe it. So I bit the bullet and nandroid restored again.... 2 times that is...

And yes, my allegation was wrong again. I'd better get used to that wood shack...

The contacts are all there after restoring but if you set the Gmail Contacts and People's details to sync, then it sync from the cloud to the phone and removes stuff you might have extra on the phone.... So that's what most likely happen earlier and what royally stinks.

So now my contacts are fine with that 3rd restoration today :banghead: but how will I be able to turn on contacts and people details synching again without risking loosing anything???

I guess that I might eventually also walk away from the default contacts management and chose Outlook or another dedicated app. Again, it's just to bad that something that is a basic PHONE functionality is so unreliable/not user friendly.

Anyhow thanks for your reply again.

I'll now go do some theming of the dialer and wait patiently for m10 release before messing with contacts again...

Cheers

/AL
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Yep. Contacts - I've done many a nandroid restore and never noticed any change to contacts, but I was always synced to my gmail. No more! So while you may be repasting in the wood house, I find this all interesting and educational.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
cm-11-20140914-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl

pa_gapps-modular-micro-4.4.4-20140901-signed

Philz Touch 6.19.3

Atrix HD/MB886

Looking good in short tests, Wifi, gps, mobile data, LTE, sensors, ART, themed based boot animation, charge while powered off.

One anomalous ripple in the Matrix, as it were: After configuration and build out nearly done and looking good through multiple reboots, upon one particular power up the screen had no touch sensitivity. The system was running and I could change the volume and invoke the power menu with the hardware buttons but I could not interact with the screen. Also, force reboot by holding power button for 10-20 seconds was not working. I Had to use Mythtools 1.3 Quick reboot Options: A. Reboot normally. Other than that it is running well.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
That's very wierd... Thanks for the heads up and a way out!!!
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
Thanks for the warning. Just clean flashed this morning, and no issues so far. We shall see.
[Motorola Atrix HD] maur1c10:
i tried to flash this file cm-11-20140914-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl on the atrix hd but it got stuck on the unlocked bootloader warning, is this for another phone or do i need something special to flash it (atrix hd with unlocked bootloader android 4.1.2)
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Well, I remember (recently.. ~10days ago) reading a commit stating: disable reboot after holding the power button for 7 seconds -or something along those lines anyway... I thought at the time that it is just a temporary thing or just something unrelated to what you've described here so I haven't check its specifics....

I dearly hope that this not related and the functionality was not removed frm cm11...[emoji33]

It saved me a few times with unresponsive screens (not specifically related to cm, but apps that jammed or some of my tests that turn sour...). I've never used myth tools and I don't want to have to use a PC for rebooting my phone￼. This will surely be one the first thing I try when I clean flash M10 in the next fews days hopefuly...

Other than that, latest commits on camera and people reporting about it not working on RazrHD.... But we have different hardware I believe... So that is working fine for you guys here?

Cheers,

/AL
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
That is the correct file. Not sure if you skipped a step or not, or what ROM you're coming from. How did you flash it? Which recovery?

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Camera works fine for me. I believe the users having the most issues were on KKBL.

Just flashed 9/14 this morning. So far, everything works fine.
[Motorola Atrix HD] maur1c10:
i was on stock rom from at&t, and flashed using philz recovery first did a wipe data/factory reset then installed the rom and finally gapps
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
Try again, but this time format "/system" while in recovery before flashing the ROM.
[Motorola Atrix HD] kabaldan:
Yes, the reboot when power button was held for 7+ s has been intentionally removed. It was too easy to accidentally keep the power button pressed while the phone was in pocket. However, holding power + volume down for 10s should force reboot, so the functionality is still there.

(btw., the 7s power reboot has been also removed by Motorola in the official Moto KitKat update)

The camera in KK bl builds is fixed by now.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for reminding about that commit for the power button. I tested some more and found that the functionality of hardware forced reboot is still present but has been changed to a 2-button thing. If you press and hold power button AND either volume button the phone will reboot. Oddly, if I use power button/volume up there is a bit of a lag (a couple of seconds) after I release the buttons and before the phone starts to reboot but if I use power button/volume down the phone reboots without waiting for you to release the buttons (of course after taking a screenshot LOL). In either case the rapid series of short vibration pulses that indicated the impending reboot no longer occurs but that may have gone away some time ago.

Whew!

[QUOTE='[] AL [] Other than that, latest commits on camera and people reporting about it not working on RazrHD.... But we have different hardware I believe... So that is working fine for you guys here?[/QUOTE]

Ya, I think this is one of those areas (like wifi and gps) where MB886 is having less issues that other phones sharing the msm8960 ROM. Camera working here.

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Thanks for the info! Hardware forced reboot also works with power button/volume up but with an odd bit of lag.
[Motorola Atrix HD] maur1c10:
ok did that but now its stuck on the morotola logo :S (about 10 min), do i have to format or mount anything else?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
The initial incident occurred when I interacted with the screen at a point during startup when Tasker starts to run and various widgets including tasker and clock widgets get refreshed - which is something I do all the time and never had problem with before.

Even with no touch response, the system was still running, responding to power button long press to bring up power menu, and properly connecting to PC via usb and invoking usb debugging mode. Forehead slap: While the phone was connected by usb I should have tested to see if MyPhoneExplorer's remote control was working. I suspect it would have and I could have done some investigating as to cause. If this happens again will try that.

Could have been local to my phone, but if not I wonder if it might relate to the new high sensitivity mode functionality that is being kicked around. Curious to know if anybody else has ever experience this same loss of touch response without apparent mechanical issue and with system otherwise running normally.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
cm-11-20140915-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl seems good.

Dirty flashed (with cache and dalvik clear before and after) on top of:

cm-11-20140914-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl

pa_gapps-modular-micro-4.4.4-20140901-signed

Philz Touch 6.19.3, Atrix HD/MB886

I dirty flashed just because I’ve never done so before and wanted to observe differences in behavior and result. Saves an hour or so of reconfiguring - reinstalling - restoring but introduces uncertainty about root cause of any glitches that may occur (duh). Also had to fiddle to get SuperSU and Better Battery Stats sorted out. In the interest of more viable testing results and general fastidiousness I’ll go back to clean flashing.

In any event 9/15/14 nightly looking good.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
did you boot it up and then hold power+volup+voldn for 8 secs to see if it powers off? (that works fine in 9-7, but thought I'd ask...)edit - booting as we speak... :D edit2 yes it does.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Works in clean flashed 9/14/14 and dirty flashed 9/15/14. In both cases:

- power/vol down causes reboot when you hit a certain # of seconds even if you are still holding the buttons.

- pow/vol up causes rboot after # of seconds AND you have released released the buttons, and then after a 2 second lag.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
so what's the difference between that and holding all 3 down for 8 secs?

gad this thing is fast!
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
In the case of forced reboot we've gone from having to just press and hold power button to having to hold power and vol-up or vol-down; which was an intentional change to avoid accidental restarts.

As for pressing all three: I used to think I had to hold all three to get into recovery but just tested and found that power + vol-up gets me to recovery (power + vol-down goes to fastboot mode).