yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Xadaa: thanks for your comments!

The phone close feature is by design - if you want to unload the phone to save memory, you have to "reload" the phone afterwards. To do this, launch the phone app manually or use my program VJTogglePhone.

However, this only happens when you use the command line -phclose (shortcut name "VJOkButt Phone Close")

I don't recommend this version. In normal use, most of us who want to emulate the red button should use the version "VJOkButt Phone" (command line -phone), which simulates "phone" usage of the red button, and only minimises the phone when you press Ok/Close.

Tell me if that solves your problem.

Pocket Me: I think I understand.

SmartDialing: I will try to add this as a special command line option.

Press n Hold: I had already understood your concern about the double tap/hold concern. As I said, if I do double tap, I'll make the delay quite short. As I said, my fingers are fast, so I'll use a short delay.

Personally I'm too stupid to use double tap and hold actions. I forget what does what. So I'll use hold and only use double tap if I can find a good use for it :)

Nitrogen: I had already put in support for xbar 3 (I think it was 3, that was what I downloaded from the website). I think for now if you use VJOkButt while xbar is on screen, it should hide xbar and ok/close the window underneath. This had been requested earlier or on another forum. It should also do the same for Wisbar and skip WDA.

It may be wise for me to make a registry setting at some point in the future for people to add their own overrides I guess, but overrides aren't straight forward. Eg xbar isn't just overridden, but integrated in code so the two work together. You can add VJOkButt to xbar and use it from there. It's not just a case of ignoring xbar.

I digress: Nitrogen - if VJOkButt is not doing what it should with your version, please email me and attach a copy of your version of xbar and I'll investigate it. Please describe the problem!

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
So am I. Actually, I meant "press n hold" and "double press". :lol:

Thanks for your patience! (Sorry about my lengthy post, I was afraid nobody can understand my English).

Is there any chance to donate to VJOkButt not using Paypal? My country is not listed by Paypal. I'm glad to donate to it.

Hope to see your updated version soon. Thanks again, vijay555!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] buzz_lightyear:
Hey Vijay,

i'm desperately waiting for The Day, when you'll finally release the whole WM shell replacement...

:o))

buzz
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
buzz_lightyear: why wait for me? We all thought you'd done that years ago! :)

To tell you the truth, I'm working on a kind of replacement (or extended) shell - in my head. Much of my little programs are ideas to go into something bigger. But loooong way off. But there are thousands of guys on this board with better skills then me. I'd rather sit in the corner and quietly do my thing, waiting for them... you're a role model for a lot of us little fish :wink: How was the holiday? Are you filled with renewed creative energy?!

Pocket Me: :oops:

Of course, anyone can donate anything to anything they want for my stuff. You can paypal me obviously, or I guess you can use credit card payments through paypal. If that doesn't help, I suppose you can email me and suggest another way!

All:

VJOkButt should be kept lean and mean. But if you have any ideas, in keeping with this ideal, as to how to improve it, suggest and I'll see what I can do.

To do is a close all option, and possibly some kind of task switcher. Pocket Me's suggestion of a jump to today screen is desirable - I suppose if I can make a task switcher, I can implement it there.

V

PS: for those who can't donate, "massaging" my google ads on my webpage from time to time helps pay for my hosting. I'm working on redesigning my webpage when I get a free moment (very few of those!) but hopefully I'll improve RSS and some other new stuff, so it all helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oltp:
Hi V,

Works great this one, now moving on to the next step: AE ButtonPlus to assign it to the appropriate button.

Thanks again, M
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, I'm busy in the office again, working till 11pm every night this week, so not much coding happening... have to implement a few new things very shortly.

Re AEBUttonPlus, red button works great, but I find my record key, which I normally assign to SmallMenu, to now be very unstable, sometimes works, sometimes not. Anyone else found this? If it's a big problem, I'll implement my own key override perhaps.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
I prefer the key mapping intergrated into VJOkButt. Personally, I only need remap the red phone key so it's great if only one program tobe installed for that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
I used AEBUttonPlus to map VJOkButt phone to the red button. When I have my GPRS on, and in the messaging program (default), I press the red button, the phone page is turned on. Pressing it again, disconnect the GPRS. Only then, pressing another time will shut down the messaging program.

Any way to make it simpler?

Also, can there be a option to exclude certain programs from shutting down such as Phone Contacts Pro.

Regards

Ryan
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Pls read the above posts of mine in this page, ebliss. It's same as the case of pressing the Red button to cancel a phone call while the phone app is not activated. We're hope vijay555 release his next updated soon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Xadaa:
Feedback:

I use AEButton to reprogram the red button into single click and double click, where single is OKButt -phone, and double is OKButt -min

Now I had a little problem where I didnt hangup the phone when I thought I did. Here is what happen

It takes 1 click to hangup the phone, and 1 more click to close the phone app. But if I press those 2 click too quickly it becomes a doule click which minimize the phone app instead... It happen to me today, my frd was on the other line, and I thought I hangup but in turn it was just minimized, so she heard everything I said afterward

ANYWAYS, basicly what I would love OKButt to have is a Press & Hold feature so that we can click once to hangup/close, and Press & Hold to minimize. It makes perfect sense to me :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
ebliss: this is something I wanted to check, whether my code is hanging up grprs data calls. It shouldn't, but I added the TAPI code after a very long and blurry weekend of reading and hair pulling. I never use GPRS data so I need to check the code again. Sounds like it's detecting and disconnecting data, which it shouldn't. Actually, that might be a problem, because with the original red key we can press+hold to disconnect data calls. I haven't thought about implementing that in VJOKButt. What do you guys think? Necessary? Won't it conflict with other press+hold features (below...)

Also, regarding Pocket Me's point, I did a minor update to remove the "feature" where it switches to the phone if you're in a call. I don't think we need that, although I find it useful, because if you have the old habit of pressing the red button and thinking you've hung up the call, but actually you've just closed the current app, you might end up leaving your phone in a call for ages. Not clever. Particuarly for me, since I don't have the normal start bar so can't tell when the phone is active.

I will think about adding this type of feature. As you might have noticed, I'm not a GUI man, but I'll see if I can make it possible. Longer term though, will take some time to knock together.

Pocket Me - your point about closing the SmartDialler. I tried doing some work on this yesterday, but it's hard to identify the SmartDialler. I'll continue looking though. It got too late yesterday... had to work late and start early today :(

Integrating red button mapping: is possible, but as with AEButtonPlus, I would have to make a resident program to intercept the keypress. It's not merely a case of building it into VJOkButt, I'd have to make VJOkButt resident and loaded all the time, and that's why I'd rather use AEButtonPlus - it works and is tested and I'd just be redoing what's already been done... For now it's not something I'd like to do, lots of new code for this for marginal benefit IMHO, but I'll be playing with the idea anyway for some other hacks, so it might happen at some point in the future.

Xadaa: sounds like your friend heard something she shouldn't have done.. What were you saying? :wink:

Couldn't you just use AEButtonPlus, change your config from double click to hold, and achieve what you asked for? I don't see how I would be adding anything you can't already do..perhaps you need to clarify it to me. I had a late night and am not thinking clearly today!

Press+hold and possibly double click was going to be used for some simple task management or close all type features. I don't really want to overcomplicate VJOKButt, it was only meant to be a simple ok simulator. I would rather have a popup task manager on press+hold, I think it's more valuable then just minimising an app. What do you guys think?

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, minor "update" to version 0.55.

BTW, you should uninstall all previous version before installing this one.

VJOKButt v0.55

This version is half the size, and basically removes a "feature" where the app would jump to the phone if you're in a call but not in the phone app. This is inconsistent. To jump to the phone, press the green button. Don't forget to hang up the call when you're done...

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
This new version works well for me. Does not disconnect the GPRS anymore. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Good stuff :)

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oltp:
Hi V,

Very nice again, noticed one flaw though. When I install it someplace else than default the links still contain a reference to '\program files\vj555....' instead of actual location. Changed them manually ;-)

M
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Yep, that's unfortunately the way it had to be done. The Cab maker doesn't allow me to make shortcuts with a command line (like -about) so I have to make the shortcuts before hand and install them manually. But that means they're "hard coded" to point to my default install path.

It's only 20k, why worry? There's not really much I can do about it I'm afraid, unless someone knows another way to make the shortcuts in the cab?

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oltp:
Stupid thing is I use a reg.hack to choose the install location & when I pick main & that's IS different from default it installs to '\my documents\vjokbutt.' instead of 'program files' & then your vj path. As I'm able to change it manually it's no big point. Maybe I'll look for a method to change the cab to get it working, if so I'll let you know.

One question, since assigning 'phone close' option to red button double click I seem to loose my phone service even when I press the green button :-( I'm trying to pinpoint it cause only soft-reset solves it, flight mode doesn't make any $¢£ùë#+% difference. Funny enough gprs still works.

M
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pentium6:
Hi V,

first let me congratulate you for your fine, fast and effective little apps.

You can expext donation pretty soon.

I've got my T-Mobile Vario (HTC Wizard) two weeks ago, BTW a fine device for one handed use if you got VJKeyPress assigned to the left

softkey to bring up the start menu ;-)

All I was missing was a usefull handling of "tapping" the ok/close button by a hardware key, and indeed using the red phone button

makes most sense and comfort. - So, thanks very much for VJOKButt.exe !!!! -

While everybody is asking for more gimmicks in your prog I like your way keeping an app small and let other apps do the rest, e.g. a

taskmanager without an exclusion list makes no sense.

So I face the following scenario on my device:

1. I need a taskmanager to handle closing of apps when I tap the ok/close button with the stylus (InClose Mobile works perfect on the

wizard, is brandnew and designed for WM5 and it's free.)

2. Though I like to keep my memory clean, there are apps I want to stay in background (e.g. Pocket Informant) which is handled by the

taskmanager using its exclusion list.

3. Using VJOKButt handles TAPI in a correct manner but either closes EVERY app or minimizes EVERY app depending on used parameter.

So this leads me to two questions.

1. Can you tell me which keycode to use with VJKeyPress to fire the OK/CLOSE event (though I think I get in trouble with TAPI this

way, I will give it a try)?

2. Can I have another commandline parameter like VJOKButt.exe "-handle TAPI and just fire the event without doing anything else" (this

will let my taskmanger handle the closing and minimizing beaviour again and should not affect the size of your app too much)?

BTW, the only prog to handle red button assignment correctly on a wizard seems to be PQz.exe. I never got AEButtonPlus working on a

wizard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Vijay555:

VJOkButt v0.55 works well. The combination of VJOkButt and AEButton is very smooth. However, there is a small trouble.

I can not cancel a phone call during the GPRS connection is ON: Connected to GPRS then making a phone call or receiving an incoming call, press the Red phone = nothing happen. :(

It's not a big trouble for me because I rarely connect GPRS but...

Regarding to Smart Dialing, the solution is very simple. You can check the name of current active app window first to make the decision. If it's "PHONE" you only need execute the default action of Red button.

I read some post here mentioned about an exclude list for VJOkButt. I think it's very useful, actually. There are some programs we always do not want real close them. (e.g: shutdown tmail.exe can cause double SMS sending -> this issue is discovered in PocketPlus...). Will you think about that: a definition of exclude list is put into VJOkButt like a string parameter (separate by a special character)???

By the way, I don't think the shortcuts in CAB install file is necessary. Executing VJOkButt without parameters will display About window (-about is unnecessary also in this case).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, updated to version 0.6.

I've re-added the phone jump option to force VJOkButt to jump to the phone if you're in a call, because otherwise I forget to hangup.

Added -justclick to merely emulate clicking the existing OK button in the top right, for those who want compatibility with other task managers.

On my website. More updates coming soon.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Yeah, -justclick is good idea. I'm using Spb PocketPlus so I'd like it except it does not work at all. Add -justclick and nothing happens. And it does not hangup the phone anymore with or without -justclick. :cry:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Pocket Me: I added justclick as an override, to just click the okbutton. But the guy that requested the feature on my forum pointed out he wanted the -phone function as you pointed out, so I'll reorder the code to make them work together. Hopefully tonight.

Spb PocketPlus: hmm. I was worried about this. I'll recode justclick, but right now it clicks at (relative to a QVGA screen) (x,y) = (310,1) to approximately hit the ok button.

The y value may be too small for PocketPlus - ie if pocketplus has an OK button that doesn't start at 1 pixel from the top of the screen, then I'll miss the ok button (the standard OK button starts at 0 pixels from the top). I use 1 because it's compatible with VJToggleToday, but no one uses VJToggleToday except me, so I'll break compatibility and fix it for you...

V

PS if you need the old version back, it's here
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
I've just found that the 0.6 and 0.55 does not hangup the phone anymore while we're not in the phone. Pls re-check that. Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Sorry, here's 0.5

http://www.vijay555.com/vj/Releases/VJOkButt/VJOKButt0.5.cab

I had re-inserted code for phonejump to versions > 0.5 because again, with VJToggleToday, I can't see if I'm in a call or not. phonejump was for my own use. Unforunately I've left my phone at home, so I can't check it right now. I'll investigate why it's not hanging up.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tintoy:
I don't get it - whats the difference between this app and assigning a button to <OK/Close> in the button settings menu?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
tintoy: my thoughts exactly. VJOkButt with -justclick will do just that as far as I know, it'll click the ok button in the top right.

However, justclick was written for a request by someone on my forum. I have no use for it, but as Pocket says, it's useful if you use some other task manager like wisbar/PocketPlus, and are to lazy to click the ok button.

However, VJOkButt is normally used to close apps, remove them from memory, instead of minimising them like the normal ok button.

It can also be used to hangup phone calls, so it can then be used to replace the red hangup button, so it's a task closer when you're not in a call, but when you're in a call, it's a hangup button.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
I've tried to fix v0.6. Please test on my webpage. Thanks muchly!

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Sorry V, -phone in 0.61 beta still does not work properly.

Execute VJOkButt with:

1) -phone OR -phone -justclick: during an incoming call (the notification window is activated) -> the notification window is deactivated but the phone call is not hang up absolutely.

2) -phone -min: nothing happens during an incoming call.

:( :( :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
I tried out 0.62 beta. It is closing my GPRS connection again when I am in the messaging program and I use -phone

Regards

Ryan
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
ebliss. there's a version 0.63 on my website, v0.62 has a stupid bug in it. It won't fix that GPRS problem though. I'll look into it. A few others mentioned the GPRS bug earlier, but I'm sure I fixed it... I'm almost certain I'm not touching GPRS at all... but if you're sure, PM me and I'll continue hammering on.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Hi V,

I've tried beta 0.63 and this is the test result:

Execute VJOkButt with -phone -min: work well, no error.

-phone -justclick: did hang up a phone call, but during an incoming call (not in the phone app), VJOkButt hang up it and also take me to the phone app at the same time (note: I did not use -phjump parameter). And something's wrong at that time with the phone app, the Ok/Close button disappears.

V, pls understand that point: I'm using my PPC to do something, e.g: installing some software... and suddenly I have an incoming call from a man I hate, I reject this call by VJOkButt and I dont want to jump to the phone app at all, just reject the phone call, that's all.

I dont understand your purpose of -phjump parameter: we can see who is calling in the notification window so jumping to the phone for what?

The default behaviour of system is not jumping to anywhere, just accept or ignore the phone call.

By the way, V, pls add the default action of red button for the phone app as my above posts. It's very useful and necessary and it's not take your time so much.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Pocket Me, thanks for your comments, I'll look into it.

phjump is necessary for me, because I don't use the normal start bar.

So I can't tell if I've hung up properly, unless I use phjump to jump to the phone.

I'll look into the bug...

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
Pressing the red button short cut to -phone terminates the GPRS connection. Confirmed with 0.63. When in a call, and I go to Today page, pressing the red button will terminate a call without going to the phone page.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
While having an incoming call during GPRS connection is alive, VJOkButt -phone does not work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
Hi,

I reverted back to 0.55 and noticed that if I am at other programs, the red button will close the programs. If I am at the Phone page, the red button closes the GPRS first before the Phone page.

Regards

Ryan
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, I'm sorry for the really slow updates on this, busy on VJSihaya.

I don't use GPRS so it's difficult for me to test, but I don't see why it's raising issues. Have to check my TAPI media type stuff. Will get around to updates and fixing Pocket Me's queries. Nearly managed to find an easy way to get rid of the intellidialler (at least on WM2003).

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Pocket Me:
Waiting...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] FOSA:
RE

Hi vijay555

I'm a very simple person. I use the VJOKButt on the very 1st post (without all the bells and whistles) for some time now and it was functioning ok when I noticed something strange the last few days

When I close the phone application I can see the color pie spinning CONTINUOUSLY WITHOUT STOPPING. The only way to stop the spinning color pie is to tap and open another program.

Do you think you can improve on the 1st VJOKButt?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
:) I'll look into it. Frankly, I've been using 0.63 with no problems at all, which is what puzzles me.

When I'm using GPRS and start a call, GPRS automatically disconnects anyway. I can't see why it's hanging up GPRS, I'm using LINEMEDIAMODE_INTERACTIVEVOICE.

I use -phjump mode due to selfimposed handicaps, and again, works perfectly well for me.

I'll do a bit more work on the Intellidialer thing (it's not particularly straight forward due to the way the window is inserted into the phone dialer).

I'll try to come back to this prog this weekend.

V
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ebliss:
Hi,

My GPRS is still on when I am at a call. And I notice the -phone ends the GPRS first and pressing it again will terminate the call.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
ebliss: hmm, that's odd. My GPRS must be set to disable itself or something, it breaks off as soon as I make a call. I'll recode the GPRS/TAPI stuff as soon as I can see what's wrong with it...

V