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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jazjaz92:
Thanks for your help I followed the method you linked me to and it worked a treat :)

Thank you it sounds like Sony is a little more dev friendly than I thought :D now I have root I'm looking forward to being able to back up my ta and flash twrp or Cwm. And most of all install v4a ofcourse :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chacho_2me:
howdid you have root?

one question...if vroot is really a bad thing...can i just use it just to:

1.get root

2. back up TA

3.get recovery

4.install the this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=

this way.my root app will not be vroot?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Link doesn't work. Yes, you can get root, back up your TA, get recovery aaand I don't know what that link does, so I don't know. But you can install SuperSU and remove the root app from vRoot. Keep in mind that it's not the vRoot root app that's suspicious but the desktop app.

Still, we have no idea at this point so you can either root and live with it or you can wait it out and see what the investigation brings up.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jazjaz92:
I used the vroot method. Nothing is confirmed and for me I felt it was worth the risk
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] YrrchSebor:
Does anyone have a TWRP or CWM recovery image that can be flashed and booted on. 257? Or do you have to flash the CWM kernel, flash any zips you want, then reflash the .257 kernel in order to boot up and run? Is the recovery always tied to the kernel on this device? A lotta questions, i know :)

Sent from my C6802 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chacho_2me:
soory why link was broken

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2495875

so we cn get root and change SU with chainfire from market?

hmmm.maybe we could get root via vroot while internet is down.and after getting root..uninstall said desktop app? hahaha..possible?

i searched for all threads.which of them is the one that we would wait regarding if vroot is safe or not? the thread telling vroot as malware?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Yeah, you can use SuperSU instead. It looks like Kingo has updated their app now and removed the IMEI "collector", so I would rather use Kingo than vRoot.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] batchelor7:
On the Kingo website the C6833 is not listed as on of the compatible devices, is this an issue?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
You can't root .257 yet, so you'll have to downgrade to 532 or earlier first.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] batchelor7:
just got my device friday, came with .532. As a rule of thumb i never upgrade till i see whats going on. looks like i'm good to go, thanks bro.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chacho_2me:
even without root..we can still flash the old 532 fw just to gain access to root right?

and then what? maybe use OTA Root Keeper to keep root?

good for you bro...i just bought my phone and my lil sister tinkered it and was updated..waahahahahaha
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jankko:
Are there any comparison reviews between LTE and Wifi versions of Note 10.1 2014 edition to be found somewhere? I'd like to see some good benchmarks and also hear about the lag difference between the two models.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] DeBoX:
As far as I know there are no direct comparisons of the two units, simply because they are as good as identical,save for the SoC ( CPU + GPU)

Wifi = the Exynos 5420 Octa core

LTE = Snapdragon 800

Performance wise there are some tiny differences, in short the snapdragon is a faster GPU while the Exynos a slightly faster CPU

In reality the differences are marginal

When it comes to lag, the problem seems to be software related and not so much hardware related. I've tested both , and a personal opinion is that the snapdragon is a tad faster in menu browsing etc,

I personally own the LTE version , well I needed LTE

Note the difference in Soc is more noticable when it comes to the mod and development community. Mods come out quicker on the snapdrag, simply becouse it has much broader support in the comunity, while Exynos is more locked and found primarily on Samsung devices

You can search around the forum for snapdragon vs Exynos questions , or google it for that mater, tons of threads etc with benchmarks and so on

You can also go here http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-exynos-version-benchmark-results-are-in/ and check out their comparison between the two models of the Note 3 ( in essence a note 10.1 in smaller scale) . it's primarely a benchmark overview but it will give you a clue on the synthetic performance numbers.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jankko:
Ok, thanks for the reply. Even though the performance possibly is not very far between the two processors, kind of stupid of Samsung to release two tablets with completely different hardware under the same name.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ap27:
To add, its possible that the LTE version will see more Dev activity, mainly because of its similarity to the Note 3 LTE models worldwide. Until recently, the LTE version had a root method that didn't trip the Knox modifier that voids warranty. It was taken off temporarily as the latest software update for the LTE model appears to have some changes. The Exynos model cannot be rooted without tripping the Knox fuse at the moment.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AndroidSmitty:
Does anybody know if we will get the update to kitkat 4.4? I never rooted this phone because i'm not able so i hope they will update, i got the 4.3 ota and i hope somebody will figure out how to get the bootloader unlocked and s-off.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
Don't see why not. Probably in about 3-4 months though. That's the bad part of not having a nexus phone and being on Verizon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshm.1219:
it will be longer than that if i had to guess. Samsung just put out 4.3 TW. So we have to wait for them to update TW to 4.4, which they will probably debut with the s5 in April like they did with 4.3 & the N3, 4.2 & our phone, 4.1.2 & the N2, etc. Then we have to wait about another month for them to push it out to the s4, then wait for Verizon to put it out for our phone.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thechamp007:
Hi,

This might not be specific to N7 2013

but after kitkat update flash player sems to be broken, I am unable to see in browser flash video.

I am using Flash player v 11.1.115.69 and latest version of firefox beta.

Is anyone else facing the same issue, any workarounds ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] neugenusis:
I think it doesn't work because of 4.4. I can't get it to work on my N5 and others from N5 forum can't also. I think I'll keep my N7 at 4.3 until there's a work around.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bracketologist:
I have the same issue. I've tried using different browsers (Dolphin, Boat, and Firefox) but no luck. From what I've read in the N5 forum, they are having the same issue, so it looks like it could be due to Kitkat.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thechamp007:
very frustating indeed :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GSLEON3:
Man... Argggggghhhh...... Google changed the web engine to Chromium. This is device wide & unless someone builds a custom app (browser) that uses the older AOSP web engine (& that is packaged with it), device side rendering is impossible. Server side rendering only for now, PERIOD.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Drag0nXP:
In Puffin browser flash video works great

I have N7(2012) KitKat and Adobe Flash Player 11.1.115.81
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] temuri:
Hmm. What's so special about Puffin? There's half a dozen of browsers claiming Flash support, but only Puffin works in 4.4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kp.nikhil:
puffin has integrated flash u don't need to install Flash separately

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] neugenusis:
Puffin is a cloud browser. It uses server-side rendering and streams it to your phone. In this method, the quality is quite poor due to low frame rates and artifacts in the video. I have Puffin paid version.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] temuri:
ok, so then in whose hands is the destiny of Flash under KitKat 4.4? Is it Google/custom ROM developers? Adobe?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GSLEON3:
You can uninstall Flash you know. Puffin is server-side rendering, which is why it is not true HD on videos. As I mentioned above, unless an updated webkit is developed, there will be no device-side rendering due to the Chromium webkit.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] BigDig:
Are there any good HTML 5 websites that you guys know for live TV and sports streaming? No flash is a big bummer!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] puma99dk|:
u can install Adobe Flash Player 11.1 but it won't run i Firefox and Chrome don't support it so i dunno which bowser u wanna use.

Link for Flash Player: Adobe_Flash_Player_11.1.apk

EDIT:

Flash works with the "Dolpin browser" on KitKat but it's just laggy as hell, it wasn't in Firefox with Jelly Bean :(

so i hope there will come a fix for Firefox so flash will work under Kitty Kat.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] fozzie:
Probably better to use the actual Adobe site for getting the flash apk - http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html

The last one (ever) is 11.1.115.81 - http://download.macromedia.com/pub...oid/11.1.115.81/install_flash_player_ics.apk

Edit: corrected version.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RR215:
From Adobe's site "On September 10th 2013, Adobe released Flash Player 11.1.111.73 for Android 2.x and 3.x and 11.1.115.81 for Android 4.0.x in keeping with statements made in our publicly available Flash Roadmap. This is the final update release of Flash Player for the Android operating system. "
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] fozzie:
Yeah, my bad; reading & typing on the move. That's actually what I've got installed. I'll update my post.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] roytse:
Has anyone tried the latest version of flash on Kit Kat? Any of the browser would allow flash to run on Kit Kat? I rally want to make sure I'm able to run flash before updating my nexus 7 to Kit Kat, because I'm mainly using the tablet for class and there's lecture videos that comes only in flash version. If I can't run flash, I'm not updating..
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Lolento:
No, so far no browser running on Kit Kat can run the flash player plugin.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] marszalek1:
Photon browser opening flash on kit kat - but I can't open full screen mode when i watching something - i don't have a permission to open full screen mode.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] _never_mind_:
That also seems to me like a server side/streaming browser..
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] duncanhertz:
HELP!

I haven't been around here in a while... pretty content with my devices until now. I updated my 2012 N7 WiFi to KitKat (KRT16S) and I absolutely hate it. I was on OTA 4.3 (JWR66Y) running Firefox with Phony on Firefox Desktop and Adblock and it was dreamy. I WANT IT BACK! My miniputer now feels like an oversized phone and HTML5 streaming just sucks IMO. Is there an easy way to uninstall the updates and revert back to 4.3? Is the image still on my device? If not, I'll guess l need to know the easiest way to learn how to flash an old ROM. I know you guys are the experts, please point me in the right direction. This sucks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mtva24:
I had the same problem on my 2012 n7. My solution?? I picked up a windows 8.1 tab lol. Flash works great!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] vburkhol:
Puffin flash support

After trying everything that had worked before 4.4 and getting nowhere, I tried Puffin with the $1.99 flash support and it is working on my nexus 10.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RR215:
I am thinking of going that route as well. The new Dell Venue Pro and Lenovo Miix 8 inch tabs running full Win 8.1 non RT at about $300 is highly inviting! Also the Nokia 2020 due out in Jan/Feb of 2014 may be even a better go-to device if it is even better than the Nokia 2520 as rumored.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mtva24:
Yup, I got the venue pro on Friday. Its waaaayyyyy better than the nexus. No more sideloading flash and trying 100 different browsers and no more mobile sites!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sensboston:
Hey, all of you, please stop crying! :mad:

Just revert back to 4.3 and wait until developers will fix AOSP + flash - it's a very simple solution.

Or buy and enjoy your Windoze tablets and leave Abdroid forums forever!

P.S. It's a neverending story: noobs are starting their "hate speeches" after each major update...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sensboston:
Revert back to 4.3 and stop crying! Or you've never heard about the Google stopped Flash support? Is it something new for you?! Buy a "Shmindows" tablet and forget about Android...

P.S. If you did something stupid, blame yourself first but not a Google, or third-party developers... Nobody (NOBODY!) promised you to have an AOSP browser and flash plugin on the newest Android releases! If you want to have ones: be patient, read the xda for the topic news and do not upgrade until you understand what are you doing...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] garryknight:
I didn't want to upgrade to KitKat because I like to watch flash videos on the BBC news site. But I also wanted to upgrade to make sure I had the latest-and-greatest with security fixes, etc. So I bit the bullet and upgraded, thinking I could wait until I get home and watch the vids on my PC.

Sure enough, after upgrading, trying to watch the videos in Dolphin got the message, "You need to install the Flash Player to play this content". In desktop mode, that is. I switched to mobile mode and had no problem watching them. I also find that I have no problem watching them using Firefox. This is with the Flash 11.1 apk installed.

However, if I go to the regular Adobe "see if Flash is working" page, I don't see the animation. But do I care? :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] duncanhertz:
I understand that even Adobe stopped supporting their own product for Android, but there are a lot of sites that have not converted to html5. I'm not hating on Android in general. In fact, I've preffered the OS since I upgraded from my HTC Touch Pro way back. The ability to customize is a main reason I don't own Apple devices. But, I digress. The switch to Chromium web engine with the KitKat update is not something I was expecting, as the other OTAs have not affected the functionality of my device. You are right though, I should have read up on the upgrade before gleefully clicking update, but I didn't. I usually don't consider receiving an OTA "doing something stupid." From what I've read though, Chromium web engine will not allow anything but server side rendering which is laggy and unreliable. I hope the xda folks will find a workaround besides server side rendering, but I'm not sure if it's possible. And besides, from this thread, you can see that I'm not the only person who was caught off guard by the update. Those who know, is there an easy way to revert back to JWR66Y? Is it even possible that we will be able to sideload Flash .apk ever again?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kywildcat:
Pathetic move for Google to block flash player, I would have not upgraded had i known otherwise. But I saw 0 post on android forums warning me that flash player would not work on 4.4, 0. What an epic fail for Google, windows tablets are now the only tablets that support flash. So I'm currently looking into options on downgrading back to 4.2.2 or 4.3. Which is somewhat a joke since I have never done either of them. Apple fan boys must be jumping for joy over this, as it was the one thing that android tablets had that they didn't.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sensboston:
What are you talking about??? Adobe stopped flash player for mobile platforms development 2 years ago (sic!), not a Google! Read the official adobe blog http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html first (or google "adobe stop developing flash for mobile")...

If you don't follow the industry news, it's your fault, not a Google's. So, RTFM first than blame! :laugh:

P.S. There is a special thread for all of you who wants a flash player and never read the news :) Roll back to 4.3 and relax...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kywildcat:
Do you work for Google ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kywildcat:
And yes I do read the news, and currently looking into this option http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] subhumanderelict:
I think this is the reality of the situation: Flash is on the way out, however, there are still MANY sites that have not converted to HTML 5 yet. Will they still convert even if people try accessing them on devices like these with crippled support (assuming they want to continue being relevant)? Of course!

Yes, the amount of web browsing done by mobile devices is skyrocketing, but it still represents a minority in terms of web access. Then, you have to take into account the fact that the people with the know-how to even attempt any kind of work-arounds like we’re discussing here represent an even smaller fraction within that minority. Basically, our attempts at clinging onto Flash support will not be enough to affect any kind of change within the industry.

I think it will be years, if ever, before some websites react to these moves to kill Flash support if it just happens on iOS and Android. Given the fact that the majority of browsing is still being done on actual computers, I feel that is where this movement should have been spearheaded (Apple kind of already made a half-assed attempt). You don’t take down a tree by chipping away at a branch; you should go for the trunk.

That being said, I will wait for some kind of non-server-side-type of Flash support before upgrading to 4.4. Devices of this screen size and resolution should render the page as it was intended. I (and others, apparently) still access enough sites to where this kind of move was premature.

Frankly, I don’t care what “should” or “should not” be, I just want the site to load.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sensboston:
Great! You see how easy it is? ;) Roll back to 4.3 (but don't forget to backup all your user settings first), enjoy and just wait for the flash + AOSP browser support for the KitKat. Actually, there is nothing so special in 4.4 except "latest and greatest" (but sometime latest doesn't really mean greatest :) )
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kywildcat:
KitKat performs great, just bummed that they didn't give us an option to use flash. That is all

First generation Nexus 7 was a lagfest on 4.2 and 4.3, lag is gone on KItKat. But who knows it might return soon, as it did return shortly after update on 4.2 and 4.3
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sensboston:
Hmm... Looks like you are start reading news but the very specific news only :o What "performs great" (comparing with latest 4.3), could you provide any example? KitKat provides (mostly) just an UI changes and improvements (but someone may call it impairments). Other changes are not significant; some customers has bad experience with KitKat (try to read all forums!)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] supahdaniel:
Try using the firefox browser. Renders everything great for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sverfaillie:
Up to now nobody ever complained about the 'strategic' decision of Adobe & Google to stop flash development.

The latest binaries 11.1 ( made available about one year ago) worked flawless if installed manually.

Although not on the market, and not installed by default, there was a workaround....

Some basic googling and you had clear instructions on how to do it.

As stated by subhumanderelict, it will indeed take years before all Flash is gone.

In mean time websites using flash are not accessible for us....

Crazy.

I am wondering whether there is a way to address this with the product responsibles at Google.

Does Google have formal contact channels ( complaints, customer care, pm) so we can individually or collectively address this issue ?

It strikes me that Google keeps on adding new ( useful/useless ) features in the race to have the ultimate mobile os, but forgets to implement what people really want.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lapocompris:
Is there a way to address this issue with the website responsibles ? Tell them to convert their website to HTML5...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] subhumanderelict:
Here’s the question: can all current Flash content be converted to HTML 5? If not, we’re going to lose a lot of content with the move.

Also, what about people who own sites with Flash content but contracted out its design? They paid someone to put it together for them and maybe even paid a third person host it. Outside of resolving errors on the page, I don’t see much communication between any of them. I doubt a lot of these owners are tech-savvy enough to know what’s going on with Flash vs. HTML 5. This person is just going to wonder why their page views are dropping…
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GSLEON3:
Nah, if they are only wondering why there hits are dropping & not trying to figure out why, they won't be in business long anyway. This is what happens when you low bid your marketing (which a website is a huge part of, if you ask me), instead of hiring in-house or contracting for maintenance & updates, they pay some unseen person in another country on whatever was the absolute cheapest deal they could find. It's just like the heater in your house; if you don't service it & it dies, you can't very well blame the guy that installed it when the house was built ten years ago, no, you have to service it, change the filters, replace contactors & relays.

You can definitely make noise & it will work if enough people are complaining. It worked for Amazon, when they killed mobile support by enabling more stringent DRM controls, which effectively killed unofficial Android support. Amazon ended up modifying the DRM & Adobe pushed an update because of all the complaints. The sad thing is that while Amazon still uses flash for Android, they HOST Netflix on AWS, who uses HTML5.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] fozzie:
I'd like to see a screenshot of this working...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] purofusoni:
Flash roadmap

It seems in the Adobe Flash roadmap, they still don't intend to discontinue Flash for desktop. This will create to a gap between desktop and mobile, because the developer still have support and update for desktop. In my opinion, Adobe is not seriously discontinue their flash support. If they do, they should kill the support to all platform to make the developer at least notify the issue. So in this roadmap, Adobe killing target is mobile users that access desktop flash. So what they want to say are: You are not allowed to use flash on tablet for teaching, use desktop instead. You are not allowed use flash for tablet gaming, use desktop instead....

NOTE: You can see Adobe Flash roadmap here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] nigelhealy:
oh well

I decided to go back to 4.3 for this reason. I stream BBC HD through a proxy and the Android app doesn't do HD on tablet. The benefits of 4.4 weren't detectable enough for me to wait for a fix for Flashplayer on 4.4.

If Flash were to remain broke, I can live with it as the native Android non-flash apps are this last couple of months getting really rather good.

I do hate the native Youtube app, it makes me watch commercials, Firefox, Flash, Adblock doesn't.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JJEgan:
Its finished Steve Jobs killed it .

Destiny is probably in the hands of the web sites . The quicker they move away from flash the less of a problem it becomes .

Browser builders may find a work around but according to Dolphin some APIs are no longer in 4.4 . Can devs find a work around/ hack .

Puffin Paid for browser works as it loads flash via its server .