yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] Toxickill:
I know how to find hidden files and folders :D and yeah i checked the direct path first... Its not tere or anywhere on the install.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
Ok, I was able to get Win8.1 upgrade 1 (leak) working, and using dism from this leak I can extract install.esd for Win8.1RT upgrade. (it has index 4 btw, 1 and 3 are WinPE and 2nd is Windows without any apps - only about 800MB). And indeed there's no such folder there... But i have a theory about it and I'll check it later today.

About my screwed Office - after restoring HKCR\Installer from "clean" 8.0, and resetting office user settings, it's working again.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
Ok, so my question is - do you have this files under 8.0? And if not, what device are you using?

I copied msocache, uninstalled office using SetupController from common files, then installed using files from this problem without problem - I was even asked about directory that I want to install Office, and which components (word, excel, etc) I want to install.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] Toxickill:
I dont have an 8.0 install because im working on a 8.1 jailbreak... Im using the surface.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
I upgraded my XPS10 to RT8.1 and yep, there's no MSOCache directory. And that's weird, as from what I found, this directory can't be moved or removed since Office 2007. It gets created when some Office path is installed (eg during language pack installation) but as soon as it's done it's removed.

So it seems that MS did some customization on 8.1 to reduce disk space usage, and because of that I'm out of ideas again.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] jimmielin:
My idea is to mount the recovery image and see if we can find MSOCache there, but I don't have a tool to mount .wim images right now (can't do it on RT I think?)

diskpart
select disk 0
select partition 5
assign

Should show the Recovery partition, \RecoveryImage\install.wim should be the one we want. Could anyone take a look at it on their shipped-with-8.1 Surface (RT or 2) and see if we can extract Office from it?
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
In upgrade image this folder does not exist. Wim files from ARM are not supported by x86 tools directly, you must copy some .net assembly files (afair) from RT to be able to extract Wim.

.esd (upgrade is shipped in this form, also some full 8.1 images, so recovery may also be in this format) is handled only by dism from recent 8.1 upgrade 1 leaks.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] GoodDayToDie:
Pretty sure 7-Zip can open WIMs (works on jailbroken RT 8.0, not sure if there's an option on RT 8.1).
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] netham45:
mkdir c:\mnt
dism /mount-image /mountdir:c:\mnt /imagefile:<wim> /index:1

Built into Windows. I've mounted 8.0 WIMs on x86, haven't tried 8.1. I have mounted 8.1 WIMs on an 8.1 install, though, so it should work.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
So maybe something changed, I was unable to do this about half of year ago with my XPS10 .wim, and had to work according to this: http://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28819

Anyway, still - at least in decrypted .esd upgrade from Windows Store there's no such directory and it's removed from hard drive on upgrade. AFAIR on PC if this dir is deleted it's recreated as soon as there exist other packaging source (someone can confirm that?) so something changed in RT version of Office.

Or maybe those files are hidden somewhere else.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
So my latest, and I think last research - as it seems that 8.1 jailbreak will be released soon, I think that it will be waste of time to investigate this more.

On my 8.0 XPS10 .wim there's MSOcache folder, that holds all files needed to reinstall Office RT. On Surface 2 RT 8.1 image there's no such folder.

On Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\OFFICE15\Office Setup Controller they are interesting directories. Interesting, as after comparing some files with MSOcache from 8.0 there's everything needed to install Office here, just without installation files.

And here are my findings:

8.1 has different name and product code for Office. For 8.0 it's HomeStudentPreWW, in 8.1 HomeStudentPlsWW. It changes also after upgrade from 8.0.

In setup controller subfolder, called HOMESTUDENTPLS there's a nice Setup.xml file that explains everything about files we need, just look at this quote:

<LocalCache DownloadCode="{91150000-00DA-0000-2000-0000000FF1CE}" SkuComponentDirectory="HomeStudentPls.WW">
<File Id="HomeStudentPlsWW.xml" MD5="AEE1DD804A68B01F6F84A81ADC14EA4B" Size="0" RelativeCachePath="HomeStudentPlsWW.xml" RelativeSourcePath="HomeStudentPlsWW.xml"/>
<File Id="HomeStudentPlsWW.msi" MD5="920B622561840FE12E50DF5D8C372775" Size="20877312" RelativeCachePath="HomeStudentPlsWW.msi" RelativeSourcePath="HomeStudentPlsWW.msi"/>
<File Id="HomePlWW.cab" MD5="6CD026FA57F4D442715F663362C44A80" Size="234903165" RelativeCachePath="HomePlWW.cab" RelativeSourcePath="HomePlWW.cab"/>
<File Id="setup.exe" MD5="D8280EC7EB541E0EB6BC0406D7AE932E" Size="231904" RelativeCachePath="setup.exe" RelativeSourcePath="..\setup.exe"/>
<File Id="setup.dll" MD5="7ACC69DB8E811E299C380EA4293C8348" Size="2441088" RelativeCachePath="setup.dll" RelativeSourcePath="..\setup.dll"/>
<File Id="osetup.dll" MD5="07277DD7E50780D2B2D41F822AFB6A2B" Size="9258840" RelativeCachePath="osetup.dll" RelativeSourcePath="osetup.dll"/>
<File Id="ose.exe" MD5="66E3D1E0C60085E492F27E1063C82116" Size="158384" RelativeCachePath="ose.exe" RelativeSourcePath="ose.exe"/>
<File Id="pkeyconfig-office.xrm-ms" MD5="4C268789235A8ADDFF4D852B4C79CF50" Size="481663" RelativeCachePath="pkeyconfig-office.xrm-ms" RelativeSourcePath="pkeyconfig-office.xrm-ms"/>
<File Id="Setup.xml" MD5="" Size="" RelativeCachePath="Setup.xml" RelativeSourcePath="Setup.xml"/>
</LocalCache>

Everything's here, without three files. HomeStudentPlsWW.msi, HomePlWW.cab and setup.dll. First one is in Surface 2 RT image Windows\Installer\17f4a.msi, I can't find 2nd one - and it's the cab that contains all installation files. Also, this procedure of finding missing files should be *propably* repeated for all setup controller subdirs that contains setup.xml. We have even sizes and MD5 of every file, but that seems to help in nothing. Google just don't find any of them.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] Toxickill:
If you could find the link you could download it... "http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/1/1718CCC4-6315-4D8E-9543-8E28A4E18C4C/dxwebsetup.exe" thats an example download link for MS look at the long id and here is the one you found "DownloadCode="{91150000-00DA-0000-2000-0000000FF1CE}" just would have to do some digging to find the url...

Good Luck.
[Windows RT Development and Hacking] kitor:
Sorry, but those two keys has only common format. Microsoft uses this format everywhere, clsids, productids, etc. 91150000-00DA-0000-2000-0000000FF1CE - you see "0FF1CE" at the end? it just OFFICE. Sadly, while all office related files has this at the end, no office download on MS pages leads to something similar, all those IDs in URLs looks completely random.

And as Office is deployed by manufacturer, or maybe even in base image by MS itself, I don't see any reason why they should keep those files publicly accessible online.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tittysprinklez:
hi all

like many others iv put my nexus 7 into the dash of my car. i was wondering if there is an app or way for my nexus to turn itself off when i turn the car off. iv figured out how to make the device turn on when power is restored to the device but still not sure how to turn the device off.

also would anyone know why when the nexus turns on, it immediately mutes itself? it is connected via 3.5mm jack 100% of the time and tasker opens up power amp but other then that i don't know what might be causing it. any help is appreciated on both issues

cheers

tittysprinklez

:confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] =jon=:
If you have tasker installed, create a state which is dependant on battery power - as an exit task tell the tablet to wait for 10 seconds, then call the misc->reboot action with type shutdown to turn the tablet off. The wait 10 seconds it to prevent it powering off when you are cranking the car...

If you just want to turn the screen off, not power the whole tablet down, there's a tasker action Display->System Lock which will turn the screen off..

You could also use tasker to change the system volume for you if you needed as a workaround...

*edit* - BTW - the tasker reboot options don't gracefully reboot / shutdown, so if you have apps running, there's a chance that you may lose data. To do a 'graceful' reboot / shutdown, you are better off using the secure setting plugin...
[Nexus 10 General] Android.Addiction:
My first thought... what did they do to the settings menu?! It almost seems like the Nexus 10 OTA is really a phone-optimized version. It lacks the dual-pane view that we had in 4.3.
[Nexus 10 General] MeteoricYCX:
What about ART? Does it exist in nexus 10 OTA?
[Nexus 10 General] cheekystew:
Nope
[Nexus 10 General] Android.Addiction:
"Select Runtime" is not available under Developer Options on my Nexus 10 with KitKat, so answer is no I guess.
[Nexus 10 General] vittogn:
Very bad and strange.

How are Google apps (e.g. gmail) behaving? Tablet or phone mode?

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 10 General] VivaErBetis:
Gmail and the new email app uses tablet mode.
[Nexus 10 General] timfimjim:
The keyboard doesn't have the tab button!
[Nexus 10 General] dodsonhaycattle:
This is so sad. I bought the Xoom on launch day and although it had many bugs it has an amazing desktop ui and got better with time! I bought the Nexus 10 not long after launch and its doing the opposite, getting worse as it ages. If tablet ui is going to become more phone like I'm going to try a Nexus 7..........or an IPad..........
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
I might try an lg tablet in the future like g pad or the one after it. It looks amazing but a little expensive. I'm sure if enough people ask for it Google will fix this mess. They could send out a small update to change it back to tablet mode and add in whatevers missing. But it seems to me they were just focusing on the nexus 5 and just rushing the other devices
[Nexus 10 General] mark manning:
My first impression is besides the fact animations are a little bit smoother I'm left pondering if I flashed an update or if I flashed a white notification bar theme
[Nexus 10 General] bimmerboii:
I just manually updated mine.. been playing around with it and it seems to handle multitasking a bit better. Less app refresh. Also less homescreen redraws.

Oh, and I still prefer the old bootup screen. This new one looks cartoonish
[Nexus 10 General] Warren_Orange:
Is the battery any better?
[Nexus 10 General] Habarug:
I think it's a bit early to judge the battery...

Just flashed the new update. The settings are silly and there should have been transparency and ART, but it's okay, i guess
[Nexus 10 General] styckx:
Just had a hard reboot while ironically enough, loading the factory image page in Chrome..

So it begins....

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] Theory:
The history log on battery monitor widget pro reports the tablet as drawing quite a bit more power when in screen off standby compared to 4.3. It used to be less than -10mA. Now, it can be up to -300mA, but slowly declining after that to -81mA. I'm not sure if it's really drawing that much more power, or there's something about the way the data is collected that is skewing the results. I'm not noticing a significant difference in the power draw as reported on battery monitor widget pro for screen on usage though.
[Nexus 10 General] zolah:
Sound's like I might be keeping 4.3 then...
[Nexus 10 General] ...mARiO³:
I've noticed better colors.

Or maybe just a better behave of the light sensor (I'm pretty sure about that... finally!)

Less homescreen redraws, I used to hate that thing.

No hard reboots so far, but it's only half a day...

And yes, new settings layout really sucks, I hope Google fix that soon.
[Nexus 10 General] rkirmeier:
Some disappointing reports here and the lack of transparent navbar and not ART piss me off. I'm a big Google fan and love Android but must say Android updates/releases have become a bit boring. It's seems innovation in Android has slowed to a crawl. I sure hope it's just temporary with all the changes in the Android team and they get back on track soon...
[Nexus 10 General] BackDaws:
This update is a joke, this KitKat was a money making scam.
[Nexus 10 General] vittogn:
I can leave without art (a beta stuff for app devs) all the other missing parts are crazy. Isn't this the b....dy Google flagship tablet? :thumbdown:
[Nexus 10 General] XxLordxX:
Hi,

I even modded mine to get the Tegra 4 effects, working fine here ;).

~Lord

"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)

Sent from my KitKat Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] Jhonb:
I am having a slow day at work and decided to read all the posts in this thread.

I for one, am very happy with the upgrade. It made my device seem like it got a faster processor.

No more lag's and temporary freezes. I love it.
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
Games play great on mine with no issues but after getting used to my nexus 5 the devices ui of the nexus 10 just feels kinda slow like pulling down the status bar. It's still pretty good though
[Nexus 10 General] oldblue910:
That's too be expected. The Nexus 10 is pushing a lot more pixels than the N5.
[Nexus 10 General] marthal:
ART ?

How did you get ART on your N10?! I'm running 4.4.2, build KOT49H, kernel 3.4.39-g5b5c8df and runtime in Dev doesn't show up. Would be very interested in learning how -

---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 PM ----------

I updated to 4.4.2 on N10, build KOT49H, kernel 3.4.39-g5b5c8df, used Wugs kit, unlocked and rooted successfully with TWRP, SuperSu as well. I trying to find out how some are getting ART - I'm not able to get "runtime" to show up in Dev -
[Nexus 10 General] oldblue910:
It's impossible. ART doesn't support Exynos processors.
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
You need to flash a custom ROM. Stock didn't have it
[Nexus 10 General] oldblue910:
That makes no sense. As far as I know, ART is not supported on any processors other than Qualcomm chips. You can't just magically make ART work on any device. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if you have an ART option on the Nexus 10, I'd be highly skeptical of it doing anything useful.
[Nexus 10 General] marthal:
hmmmmmm

I have completely read the blog, start to present, and respect your experience and insights, Blue. abdel12345: your thoughts and insights ? Anyone with success using a ROM, and if Blue is correct - Qualcomm chips - then how is it done? It's "up the flagpole" - anyone else want to salute?
[Nexus 10 General] 3DSammy:
The comments about ART not working on a Nexus 10 is completely wrong. Get a custom ROM and a Gapps package that best supports ART. I am running Tempest ROM (OMNI based) and you change to ART in:

Settings->Developer options->Select Runtime

You need to enable yourself as a developer before the "Developer options" settings menu item will appear. Settings->About tablet and click on "Build number" rapidly many times until you see a notification that you are now a developer.

Read the custom ROM thread looking for ART comments and advice on the best ART compatible Gapps package. There are several ART supporting 4.4.2 custom ROMs that you can find in the developer sections of the N10 forum.
[Nexus 10 General] mark.m.moran:
OK mate....so can you tell me what you did to mod it to allow this?

Thanks,

M
[Nexus 10 General] XxLordxX:
Hey,

The difference is not THAT big, however you can see some difference. Anyway here's how to do this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2496256

~Lord

"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)

Sent from my Monster KitKated S4
[Nexus 10 General] locovaca:
Source? The analysis I read said that ART wasn't on the N10 builds because they ran out of space for it on the system partitions, and you can't just magically repartition the flash on a stock device without losing data.

There's nothing special about the Exynos vs a Qualcomm when it comes to running ARM instructions.
[Nexus 10 General] mark.m.moran:
And is it playable mate??
[Nexus 10 General] XxLordxX:
Hi,

It's playable, a little less smooth as just high, but still playable. Try it ;), to restore is just going into the game settings and changing again.

~Lord

"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)

Sent from my Monster KitKated S4
[Nexus 10 General] oldblue910:
OK that's interesting. Do you engender where you read that? Perhaps I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Certainly won't be the last.
[Nexus 10 General] locovaca:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62375

http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus7/comments/1qy4pw/psa_lack_of_art_on_44_for_2012_nexus_7_may_be_due/

For reference the nexus 10 only has 8 megs free in /system which is only 643 megabytes
[Nexus 10 General] marthal:
kudos

I appreciate your insights and advice. xda is an excellent repository, but sometimes a data provider's expertise is exaggerated, and we end up reading fluff. Again - thank you.
[Nexus 10 General] oldblue910:
Yeah I think I stand corrected on this one. Thanks for the heads up, guys.
[Nexus 10 General] KiwiBird97:
Multi panel settings

Here is the settings menu on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition when I upgraded it to KitKat. Compare the two photos.
[Nexus 10 General] XxLordxX:
Hi,

Cyanogenmod 11 offers the dual pane settings menu just like it was before the KitKat update ;). You may want to check it ;).

~Lord

"All I ever needed was a little piece of hope" - World of Fantasy (Helloween)

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Nexus 10 General] ValleyFly:
As does Purity Rom... Its dual pain also and still sporting the stock kernel
[Nexus 10 General] gc84245:
I've been running kit kat from day one, but I got fed up with VPN/Wifi issues, so I downgraded to 4.3. Much better now. I can't think of a single thing that I miss from kit kat.
[Nexus 10 General] lordnihilusmd:
Nexus 10 KitKat Performance

Well , KitKat runs very very bad comparing to 4.3. It has a lot of bugs like random reboots/laging (especially when you connect the table to a monitor), apps crash a lot - google chrome the most. Can someone sugest a good custom rom ?
[Nexus 10 General] XxLordxX:
Hi,

I'm running CM11 and am pretty happy with it! But there's nothing better than downloading each one and checking which one you really like ;).

~Lord

"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)

Sent from my KitKat Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 General] lordnihilusmd:
CM11

I installed CM11 latest Nightly available now(21-05-2014). Runs better on HDMI than stock but still i haven't verified everything. I hope they will release a stable build soon but anyway probably this nightly is still better than this buggy stock and also it has some additional cool features , thanks for suggestion.
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
I think they might have optimized battery because mine actually charges while I'm using it now with the stock charger. I only tried while reading a book on aldiko reader and while doing some basic browsing and other simple stuff
[Nexus 10 General] Gordon01:
Totally disappointed with your opinions.

I'm decided to stay with 4.3.

Why google is now making so buggy things?
[Nexus 10 General] SeaFractor:
That will be the last time we provide you our opinions :p

Sorry, I know you mean about KitKat 4.4

Personally, I like it a lot compared to 4.3 so far. It's the additional features I thought was coming that impacted my impression.

But after working with the tablet for two days with 4.4, I can definitely state that the battery feature is working much better. I've also used the print functionality (used to be separate "cloud print" application, so it's not really new) and find it works well.

Graphics seem to have a few point bumps in testing and it just feels a little smoother. Possibly due to the optimized memory footprint.

Suspect that several of the "new" features will be Nexus 5 only, but I hope they trickle down to the N10 in a future update.
[Nexus 10 General] Fidelator:
Curious, I just updated the Google search app, I had previously installed the N5 launcher on my N10 and it had some layout issues, after today's update everything seems to be in the right place on my tablet, perhaps google really is planning to release the launcher to the play store.
[Nexus 10 General] thenbt:
i might be missing something but in the settings under devices section there is home option to change the launcher, anyone else encounter this problem?
[Nexus 10 General] ...mARiO³:
I've noticed the same thing. But there are some graphic glitches on some wigets, like "Play - My Library", maybe due to the same reason for which the transparent bars are disabled on N10.
[Nexus 10 General] TheBigX:
You shouldn't think that.

Just a bug maybe?!

Sometimes, even the best are making some errors.
[Nexus 10 General] styckx:
Memory management so far is like night and day compared to 4.3.. It's actually not being an RAM whore and releasing it correctly..

I had about 10 apps sitting in my recents menu.. I had about 200MB RAM free. (Which is fine considering how much I had open) I swiped them all away and it shot up to 850MB free and then settled out at 776MB of free RAM with nothing open. This was unheard of on 4.3.. I would have not a single thing open on 4.3 and have like 210MB of free RAM left sometimes.
[Nexus 10 General] Skandranen:
Aside from the settings menu, so far I really like 4.4 it's way fast, and smooth, love the new keyboard so far haven't found a real problem, and battery life seems to be about par to 4.3, but time will tell there so far so good though :thumbup:
[Nexus 10 General] mdt017:
First impressions...

Originally sideboard the update on stock or locked setup and it was laggy

Reset device and lag was gone

Downloaded complete 4.4 stock image and flashed each partition (maybe pointless but I did it anyway)

Rooted the device

Gel with proper search apk and framework apk for transparent bars works okay but not butter smooth

Now using Nova beta and it is smooth

Overall though there really isn't enough change for the N10 to definitely notice improvements

Maybe it's better on Ram but I'm not feeling the benefits

As ppl pointed out the settings menu format was a let down of inefficiency

So overall... Not impressed. Hoping CM 11 can bring all the same features the Nexus 5 has and a smooth running GEL option in gapps
[Nexus 10 General] hololight:
To those having issues: are you really that surprised our tablet is getting blown off? The successor is rumored to be out in a week... Sadly I think the Google we used to know from just a few years ago is gone.
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
Hopefully this isnt true and theyll release some small upsate to help things. They already updated google search so yhat gel works on tablets ans its worling nicely for me. Maybe theyll releasw a small update for n10 soon like 4.4.1 or something. Anyways the tablet still runs great for me but itd be nice to have a refresh and lifen things up.

Sent from my LG-P970g
[Nexus 10 General] SeaFractor:
From the same trusted sources that let us down before.

Not saying there won't be an eventual N10 2, but that any media hype is highly suspect.
[Nexus 10 General] Victoryengineer:
Bummer

The initial reports are a bit discouraging for me to say the least. I just ordered my Nexus 10 and had planned on updating to Kit Kat.

I think it will be in my best interest, at least for now, to stay with 4.3. Does the Nexus 10 update to this automatically or will I be able to keep 4.3?