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[Epic 4G Android Development] iamchocho:
I agree completely. The arguments "its not that bad" and "you get used to it" is complete and utter BS and makes me want to kidney punch anyone who says it. In reality what they mean is that they were willing to just accept what the manufacturers tell them they want because they don't want to think for themselves. "Oh, look! SHINY.... who needs a keyboard anyway!" iPhone users are the worst example of these kind of people.

Out of curiosity which BT keyboard did you use with the S4?

I went to the photon Q after the epic and it was good while it worked however it just recently started having issues with the battery just before my 1 year warranty was up, and Motorola support has been worthless in trying to repair it. So now they are either sending me a moto x as a replacement (which I will sell) or some sort of refund. Either way I have decided to go to the n5, should be here tomorrow, I was thinking of trying to adapt one of the S4 BT keyboards to work with it. In the meantime I have been back on my Epic and am still amazed at how well this phone works now with CM11 on it given how old it is.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TPMJB:
All the BT slider keyboards for the S4 are the same, regardless of color. They have different "brands" but that's it. Key layout is the same. 1000 newtons of force to push down a key is the same.

So there's an outbound call bug on the current version of the nightlies? I don't need MMS currently, but I do need the ability to use the phone like a phone.

Yeah, I agree with Bob. Thanks to all the devs for not abandoning this phone! I don't think other phones get nearly the amount of work we get!
[Epic 4G Android Development] mbellot:
2-26 Nightly seems to have fixed my BT power issues.

MAP still isn't working, but at least I can use the phone hands-free in my car again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Good to hear. I seen a bunch of updates to BT in the changelog. How about MMS settings? Does it still crash?
[Epic 4G Android Development] DCRocks:
Looking to do a full wipe of my Epic and reload CM11

I dont use BT or 4G

The Camera, WiFi and MMS are important features for me

What build would I be best advised to use for my rebuild?

I have been using an older build from Jan, and it was working fine, but I am starting to get issue creep due to flashing several different builds overtop and such, and am looking to just start clean again.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mbellot:
If you mean through the dialer, yes it still crashes after entering your MSL.

Easy to work around, you use voice dialer and say "OPEN A P N".

I delete all the existing APNs and then create one new one with the Boost settings, just don't forget to "activate" it (tap the radio button and make sure it turns "on").
[Epic 4G Android Development] TPMJB:
Hrm, I did a full wipe (system and factory reset) and it seems to work fine so far. Only thing I've noticed wrong right now was if I go to "settings" in the messaging app, it crashes every time. I'm on the 2/27/2014 nightly.

Edit: Gps seems to work, and from CM 10.1->CM11, the odd issue where I had to have GPS off when I started CoPilot or the program wouldn't lock my position, seems to be fixed. Not sure if that was fixed in CM10.2 or what, but it's fixed.

I have yet to check to see if the bluetooth issue is fixed with my OBD2 reader. I had a workaround, but I'm curious if it's fixed altogether.

Edit2: Checked bluetooth. More broken than CM10.1. Headset works, but using my "CBT" OBD2 reader does not. Originally, if I had paired my bluetooth headset and then tried the reader, it would connect and save it. Now it doesn't work. It will try to pair to it, ask the password, then fail to pair while saying my password was incorrect. I used both "1234" and "0000".

Not really a dealbreaker, but annoying.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Any chance of you peeking at the issue with MMS/Messaging crash when you attempt to go into Settings? Its been out here for a couple of weeks without any dev commenting or correcting. I apologize for the direct and public ask, but you are the superhero in this group. :angel: The 0227 nightly apparently has the issue.

Thank you (again) for all you do for us!
[Epic 4G Android Development] bbelos:
Well, I just installed 2/27 nightly to check, but I don't get a crash when entering messenging settings. Maybe try clearing the data? I don't know if that would clear the actual text database so consider a backup if you're worried about losing them.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Thank you for trying it out. I was going by what TPMJB reported just above as he said he did a clean install and had the same as me on earlier builds. I will put in the 0227 nightly over the weekend and let you know with a data clear if i get the crash.

Backup is my middle name. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] TPMJB:
I had it happen to me on a fresh install after erasing system and doing a factory reset. You do a dirty flash maybe?
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Using the Feb28 nightly, I did a dirty, then a clean install. Both crashed MMS Settings. I did however allow Play to install other apps like Google Voice. I will try again right out of the box before any other apps get loaded. Maybe there is an app compatibility issue. More later...
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
No joy on the feb28 build. I did both dirty using cmupdator and clean, with and without gapps. On the clean, i also formatted data/system/cache partitions. I also did not let google restore my apps in the event of clash. Most definitely broke. Dont know how you were able to use without issue.

Is there extra logging i can enable for you?

Might there be something stored in NVR like the APN area that is not allowing a change to the simple settings?
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elixis:
Any word on the outgoing phone call issue?
[Epic 4G Android Development] bbelos:
Nah, it crashes for me too with clean data. I haven't done a clean install for a long time, so I'm assuming something has changed with the mms app that's breaking on a clean install. But my current mms data must go back before the breakage, so mine is still working. Who knows. I'll see what I can find out.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
I am sorry but I did not test general call behavior on the feb28 image before restoring my cwm backup of the jan25 nightly...which has been solid for me.

Got about 30 minutes to try it yourself? Boot into recovery and make a backup, then reboot normally. Use the cmupdator to download and install the nightly of your choice. This is a dirty install but you can check it out real quick. If you dont like it, reboot to recovery and restore your backup. Give it one more reboot for kicks.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TPMJB:
I don't know of any outgoing call issue. I called my friend yesterday with the 2/27 build and it seemed to work fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mbellot:
There was an issue a week or two back where you had two way audio for incoming calls but any outgoing calls only had incoming audio (the person you called couldn't hear you but you could hear them).

It happened to me at least twice on the 2/14 nightly, but I haven't noticed anything specific since updating to 2/26 nightly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] TPMJB:
Yeah, it wasn't an issue for me. Only "issue" I've had was that it's a bit slow on loading some apps that were fine on CM 10.1. That and being unable to change my text notification sounds to a different sound than my regular sound for notifications
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Interesting as my first upgrade was a dirty just using cmupdater with no wipes.

Anyway thanks for finding and looking at it.
[Epic 4G Android Development] dfrhodes:
I have a theory about the one-way audio problem. I've been traveling for the past month or so and have used nightlies in 4 cities now. I've experienced the issue randomly in all of them. In one case, a friend with an S3 was able to call right next to me, so I know its not a sprint network issue.

however, i have noticed in my battery stats that I get all yellow for mobile net signal while on the road. now that i'm home I get less green than i used to. Could it could be the radio power levels have been tweaked and we are experiencing the classic 'CDMA near-far' issue?? I've used the cellviz app but i don't have a good baseline RSSI to compare against

I think i'll try reverting to 10.1 and see if anything changes.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mpannen:
I am using a clean install of 3/1/1014 nightly and I haven't experienced and call audio problems yet, whereas with earlier builds I did have lots of problems.

Any ideas why my downloads from the play store always barf out at about 80 percent? First time happening to me, but I installed CM11 on a gs4 and was getting that same issue. ???
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
I have found that some will hang waiting on permission approval. Just select the stuck download in your notification area and it should prompt you or continue. Assuming you have free storage.
[Epic 4G Android Development] rootsamurai:
Does anyone know where the mtd partition sizes are set within the CM11 install zip? I have poked around a bit in the shell scripts but don't see where the mtd partitions are resized.
[Epic 4G Android Development] didhiy:
it's hardcoded in kernel (boot.img), need to compile a kernel if wanna use different partition size

afaik, there's a part in updater script that check the partition size too. it will force to reformat whole partition if it found older partition size
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
Hmmm...well to be on the safe side I'm sticking with the 1/25th Nightly. Works wonderfully for me, inbound and outbound calls and everything. :good:
[Epic 4G Android Development] rootsamurai:
That explains a lot. I saw the conditional to check for the partition size, but was confused. It flashes boot.img and reboots if the partition size doesn't match. Now I understand why. Thanks!
[Epic 4G Android Development] dfrhodes:
Okay, i've been running on 10.1.3 for a day an half now. and as expected - my CDMA/EVDO signal strength readings are way better - -65dBm vs -90dBm in the same location. My mobile signal graphs in battery stats have also gong back to almost all green. I was getting one-way audio with cm11 nightly 0301, but none so far on 10.

also, i hate to say it - but on jb navigation is way snappier and things load quicker. I like KK, but hell I'm back to having 140MB+ rom space free, mms, wimax, 2 way voicecalls..hmmmm
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Maybe so, as 10.1.3 is a mature and stable release. Cm11 nightlies are not there yet, but is also where all development resources are going. There isnt an 11 stable yet for the epic. 10.1.3 has no further development, and if i recall, has numerous bluetooth issues that are fixed in kk.

Not sure about reception as this is driven by the radio driver which is independent of the os.

If it works for you, then all is good. When kk is stable, we will see you back. :)
[Epic 4G Android Development] inameiname:
Regarding link2sd and sd-ext use in CM11 and epicmtd

I am curious if anyone on this thread knows of any news on if and/or when link2sd and using sd-ext (via a 2nd partition on an SD card) might be possible through ClockworkMod on our Epic 4G. I read a little while ago CM11 hasn't fixed this issue yet, but is supposedly going to. Of course, being an older phone, and knowing most phones don't need a 2nd partition as they have large enough internal memories, I'm worried this feature may never come to pass.

Anyway, as I have link2sd and sd-ext use working on an even older phone which lets me add much more apps to it, I am hoping this might someday be also possible on my Epic 4G.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
There were a few posts a couple of months ago on either this thread or the 10.1 thread by someone that had it running. I dont remember who or what may have been the issue or question. Search and you might find something. I dont think it will be an integrated solution either for the reasons you listed. But i thought they had it running.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mbellot:
Stuff littered through this thread, but this seems to be the most informative IMHO.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Snoshrk:
I currently use Link2SD on my Epic4G with the latest CM11 nighlty and an ext4 partition. Works great. I followed the guide here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2285221 But just the Link2sd part.

I couldn't get the foldermount part to work (tho I didn't play with it too much)

Sno
[Epic 4G Android Development] inameiname:
Ah, I see. I don't remember it from the 10.1 thread, but back then I wasn't using Link2SD.

Technically, what I have discovered is that I can install and use Link2SD without trouble in CM11 for epicmtd. But when I try to make a nandroid backup and restore of my whole phone using ClockworkMod, it fails to include any data (in the backup) from my 2nd partition, sd-ext.

I was actually able to find a problem that can actually backup data from an 'sd-ext' drive, an apk called OnlineBackup or something like that, which backups from within the operating system, but upon trying to restore using ClockworkMod and then trying to load the OS, it freezes upon trying to boot.

Anyway, I will look more into this. Thanks.

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Hmmm, thanks for the link. I recall seeing that post, but at the time never used Link2SD to know how beneficial it could actually be. Anyway, I will look further into that. Definitely a bit of a workaround to get it to work through ClockworkMod, but maybe possible.

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Thanks. I have tried all of what was mentioned there in the Link2SD part. However, I only used a Fat32 2nd partition. I wonder if I were to try an ext4 partition like you did, maybe it would work. From that article it sounded like they had the opposite issue, ext4 wasn't working, but a Fat32 one was.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Snoshrk:
Hmmm, From what I remember the Fat32 was the fallback if the ROM didn't support the other "better" partition formats.... What are you using to partiton the SD card?

I have had good luck with Easus Partition manager and MiniTool Partition Wizard (in win7)

Sno
[Epic 4G Android Development] didhiy:
iirc, ext2sd ever supported only in froyo cwm

I ask about it earlier in dcrocks cwm thread, seems ext2sd dropped to allow kexec for temporary boot to stock rom

...and seems ext2sd code removed completely in newer cwm source (kitkat)

cmiiw
[Epic 4G Android Development] spartasr:
I just use Titanium Backup to move large apps from the internal memory to the SD, worked fine so far:)
[Epic 4G Android Development] inameiname:
I use Gparted on a Linux Machine. I find it the best for me. Again, I will re-partition to ext4 and see if that fixes things. To note, after it finishes with backing up my system, successfully, including the sd-ext part (using OnlineBackup), when it finishes restoring via ClockWorkMod I notice the 2nd Fat32 partition has nothing on it. Hopefully changing it to ext4 will make ClockWorkMod actually restore the files properly.

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I see. That is sort of what I discovered too. Though this is Link2SD, but I'm sure it's similar.

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Titanium works to move apps from Internal to SD, but the point of Link2SD is to move much more of the apps from Internal to SD. By linking apps to Internal but actually being on SD, it enables a lot more to actually be on the SD. For example, with the 50+ apps I have on my Epic 4G, even when I use Titanium Backup to copy all 50+ to my SD, I still have about 250mb being taken up by those apps on my Internal memory. When I use Link2SD, It is only about 120mb.

Edit: I reformatted the 2nd partition into ext4 using GParted instead of Fat32, and no luck. Same issues as before.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
I installed the 0308 nightly, and the issue is still there :crying:

Something I didn't realize before (because I always reverted) was that if you use SMS Backup Restore to get back all your texts (like I do), you cant go back into Messaging/MMS to make it the default messaging app > thus dead messaging altogether. Even tried TBU app+data restore.

I installed Handcent as workaround which properly took ownership.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
First of all, is the outbound call issue still there on the most current nightly? :confused:

Second, as to the underlined...that is 100% correct. So what I did when I was trying out new nightlies for size, so to speak, was:

1. Use TBU to restore SMS Backup Restore.

2. Restore SMS (I have no MMS so I never have to worry about that).

2b. (optional) Update SMS Backup Restore at the Play Store. It seems to get fairly frequent updates, so usually when I restore it, I get a notification that I need to update it. If you get no notification, skip 2b.

2c. (optional) Backup SMS Backup Restore so you'll have the newest version of it. If you didn't have to update SMS Backup Restore, skip this step too.

3. Go to Manage Apps > Downloaded, find SMSBackup Restore in the list,

and DELETE IT

. This will force the phone to find another SMS/MMS app to use instead, namely the native app.

Now, I don't use SMS Backup Restore very frequently (hence 2b and 2c in my list of steps), there's no point since I don't change daily drivers regularely. If I'm going to change drivers (like when I was trying nightlies), I'd simply upload it, save my SMS to it, save the app to TBU, then go to town (recovery, wipe, flash, reboot). In my case I was wiping everything since I was trying to use original flavor Trebuchet. You may be able to get away with dirty flashing it, though.

But, what you could do is follow my list of steps, then simply re-upload SMS Backup Restore. It only gives that warning when you are *restoring* SMS, if you're *saving* SMS, you can do that daily or as often as you like without you having to change messaging apps.
[Epic 4G Android Development] mpannen:
I tried the 3/8/14 nightly and I had call audio on my phone, the first call I made on a clean install went just fine.

No data connection however. WIFI is fine.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Where to begin...

I just flashed it, so I will let you know if I have any call issues as soon as I make a few calls. FYI: First test call was fine.

On the other thing...MMS, SMS, and Messaging are all the same thing in the default ROM running under com.android.mms (look at Messaging in Apps). MMS and SMS are two different types of message formats used by the 'Messaging' app.

SMS B&R install by itself, either through TBU restore or PlayStore, will not change the default action of Messaging, so installing and immediately deleting will not do anything. I did however try to make SMS B&R the default app, then delete it, but Messaging still would not grab an incoming text so I can change the default back to it. Installing Handcent worked, and is a full SMS/MMS app.

For now, I will continue to run as I have a lot of space (~90MB) after pushing everything to the SD in TBU, deleting some things in the ROM, and merging in the updates to the ROM (except Google Play services which borks everything). :fingers-crossed:

My reply above was to give bbelos some additional information on the issue since he was able to replicate it, and I'm the one who first reported it. I know he is busy and will get a fix when he can, but I am not going to whine about it...even if it takes months. I have a viable workaround for now and was sharing that with the group in case someone else wanted to do the same.
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
Yeah, I know the difference, its just *I* have no MMS. I was simply repeating what I do when I run into that problem. Speaking of which...

Unless there's something I don't know about in the March nightlies and beyond, that has not been my experience. I get the warning from SMS Backup and Restore when I am restoring my SMS, but immediately afterwards I delete it, which does, in fact, at least on my end, "change the default action of Messaging". Like clockwork, without issues. Or else I would have asked how to fix it in this very thread. If its not for you to the point you have to use another app altogether, not sure what to tell you. If it doesnt matter and you're satisfied with Handcent, cool. :good:
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Say it aint so....

Confirmed.

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Sorry, I missed the part of doing a restore. Yes, you have to take ownership of the MMS action before a restore. My bad, but I did try to delete it today, and Messaging said not enabled or some BS like that.

But in confirming the no data issue above, I find that in 'settings > wireless & networks > more', you can select your default SMS app.

See? Some good does come from bad afterall.

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Can anyone tell me the latest nightly where data DOES work?

Bill
[Epic 4G Android Development] Effsi:
I don't think I've had data myself since 0305 builds on up. Haven't tried the most recent. 0304 should be fine if I am not mistaken.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elixis:
Same here with the data. I figured my phone bugged out, so I ODIN'd back to stock then applied it from scratch, now I have just gone back to my backup from before all of that. The data bug stays in tact.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elixis:
The data bug is in this one. Does anyone have 03/03, or 03/02?
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
Confirmed no data on 0304.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Effsi:
You are correct, I completely dropped the ball on that. I am using the 0303 nightly rom, the kernel I am using is listed as Mar 4 which is what I based my last post on. Sorry about that! I don't even know if I tried out the 0304 build now, but for sure 0305 and the later ones I did and they weren't going with data.
[Epic 4G Android Development] selivanow:
No data on the 0309 nightly either. What's more, if I flash back to the 0301 nightly I get stuck in a reboot loop. I end up having to restore back to my 0115 backup. I have had the most luck with outbound calls with the 0301 (except for the 0115 unofficial I have been using) but still nothing close to 100%.

As a side note, I developed a new issue running the 0115 unofficial (and the 0125 official) builds. if someone calls me it rings 3 times and goes to VM. on my end I get a com.andriod.phone has stopped message. I'm going to try a factory reset and reload the 0125.

I would really hate to go back to 10.1, the RAM usage was horrible.
[Epic 4G Android Development] BillyBob3:
I have not seen this in 0125.

Also staying with cm11 until April with the release of the S5. Probably still on the 0125 nightly. Lol
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
Quick question, but everyone who is having problems with data, is this after flashing the Alternate Carrier fix?

I don't know which service everyone is on, but I'm with Cricket, and I make it a habit to flash three things after a clean install, the ROM, the gapps, and the fix. If I don't flash the fix, I don't get data nor wifi, no matter which ROM I'm on.

Just curious. If this problem is still present after flashing the fix, well, thank goodness for the 1/25 nightly.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elixis:
Mike,

No this does not have anything to do with the alternate carrier fix. This is just from applying the regular zip update.

Does anyone have a link to the 1/25 nightly? This outgoing-call bug/data bug is driving me crazy

Thanks in advance!
[Epic 4G Android Development] RodimusConvoy:
...and you are flashing the carrier fix after flashing the update, and still getting no data, right? I would at least try it before deciding it won't work, but hey, I'm not one with the issue.

BillyBob3 was nice enough to upload it a few weeks ago, and still seems active. Its what I'm on now.
[Epic 4G Android Development] Elixis:
Much appreciated!