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[General Accessories] javip:
i hope us early buyers get some kind of discount or possible straight replacement for this untested case.

months of delaying release and we have a 'rugged' case that has way to much lateral movement of the phone.

the plastic itself is very brittle and weak. i have an otterbox next to me and the quality in the inner casing is definitely different.

please let us know how much longer we have to wait for a revised edition that actually does what it promises.

we all love to mod and tinker with things but this is a product that we should not have to mod and tinker with to get what we waited and paid for.

on a side note i love the 9300 battery and continue to use it with the regular TPU case that came with it.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I asked them about the discounts but the reply was not clear. I think it was a NO for discounts though. I tried to explain some of us live overseas and have trouble returning old cases to exchange for revised ones, but I don't think they understood me.
[General Accessories] javip:
to me that just screams bad business. this case clearly not tested at all. any person working quality control would never have signed off on this for production.
[General Accessories] forsaken82:
my case handled one fall... about 3 feet to my carpeted office floor. the front snap in piece of the case is now cracked and unusable. i had already had to get a new battery door due to mine being cracked. im very underwhelmed after months of waiting. my otterbox modded case is going back on.

:mad:
[General Accessories] C00lBeanz:
Can't wait to receive my Note 2 extended battery and Zero lemon ZeroShock case next monday!! :D (Shipping takes a really long time to ship to Canada for some reason) :confused:
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Maybe someone can get through to them. Perhaps vectron who seems to have good relation to them and seems to be able to communicate more efficiently. Vectron, could you ask them about the time frame for revised version and plee that us first customers get discounts for buying new ones?

This is scary. I think we really do need a revised version soon...this is the big delicate Note 2 we are talking about, not some petite resisliant oldtimer mobile phone.
[General Accessories] gshadow325:
ECHO hello hello hello,

Is no one getting the echo except me?

OMG its driving me nuts. I am reverting back to NAKED and sliding it into my front pocket until i can figure this out!
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
If this is your only issue, why don't you have it exchanged (if you are from US)? Nobody else seems to have it, you might have just got a faulty case. Of course, with a new one you may have cracks, missaligned screen protector and phone rattling around...
[General Accessories] gshadow325:
Good idea, they just sent me a replacement case for the broken clip. I'll try that. But someone else had to have this issue too!
[General Accessories] forsaken82:
well they are sending me another face plate to replace the broken one on mine. im now at 2 of the 4 pieces have had to be replaces in less than 2 weeks....

as far as your echo goes, check your mic holes when the case is on. mine had the echo and the bottom hole was halfway covered. a small piece of tape inside the case to push the phone back a bit fixed it. also if your using the zerolemon battery try taking the battery plate off if your using it.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I suppose if people gave them feedback on their Facebook page they could be more interested in improving it...
[General Accessories] Hälftebyte:
This has done it for me. Thanks for posting this. With the extra costs and shipping time (inconvenience) I have to deal with, to first buy the case and get replacements when necessary, I am not going to buy until it's revised. The case is obviously too brittle and clearly not as durable as the otterbox.
[General Accessories] tonylee000:
Yes but them having to keep paying postage to replace items as well as the loss in faulty items has got to smart a little for them. I've had a dodgy charger and a dodgy case now. The battery however is awesome and hasn't been a problem. I'm in the UK too so that not cheap postage.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
If I think about it, it would be stupid not to fix the cases. The idea is good and noone else makes these cases in the world. Others make extended batteries but don't offer competent protection. So I think it is in their best interest to fix them.

But I also think they would be wise to keep their current customers informed and offer them some kind of compensation for buying their product and assessing it. Yes, even in the form of discounts. What is the point of keeping your customers frustrated?
[General Accessories] Brad.S.:
Pictures of the black/teal
[General Accessories] planetbeen:
That black and teal is gorgeous! I need it!

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[General Accessories] Hälftebyte:
Nice... hope we see some more live photos of the colors
[General Accessories] dukenukems:
Just received my zerolemon from amazon through ontrac.Gonna let the battery charge over night.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Don't you own it?

Gah, it has now been 15 days since my order and I haven't received the teal and purple one yet. I am not looking forward to it very much anymore though because I don't know if I dare trusting my phone with it. Gah... I seriously hate this situation. Ordered 3 cases so far, one came broken, the other 2 is taking forever to arrive and on top of it they are not protective enough and Zerolemon in not responding to anyone about time frame of revised version nor acknowledging a suggestion they should DO something for us first customers. I am seriously frustrated.
[General Accessories] planetbeen:
I have the all black one. If I had realized the black and teal would come that soon I would have waited. I will probably order the black and teal and just have 2 I guess. ...

I have some points available from a survey site and I can get myself a $25 Amazon gift card so that's pretty much free!

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[General Accessories] drnihili:
Personally, I'm waiting for a revision and a black/yellow combo.
[General Accessories] C00lBeanz:
Ugh i think my battery is stuck in Canadian customs for some reason, it's been there for 5 and a half days, usually takes me 2-3 days. This is gonna be a looooong wait. :(
[General Accessories] Jay Rock:
I bumped into this thread while searching for a review of the case for the Galaxy S3 on Google to see if I was the only one that had a few problems with the thickness of the case. I know the holster is there for a reason but it's a pain to carry it in the pockets.
[General Accessories] Brad.S.:
:laugh: :laugh:

Now imagine having a Note 2 with 9300mAh and the rugged case!! I definitely have a dedicated pocket for mine :silly:

-- I have yet to use the holster :highfive:

Anyways, I got the black/teal S3 case for my gf and she hates it (Just loves the fact that we have matching cases :o ). The shell caused her screen protector to bend upward when clipped together, its too hard for her to pull down the notification drawer, and upon putting it on the phone it seems like its warped so that it is crooked :confused:

- Also very annoying is the way that they made the inserts on the side that keep it held in the holster. I have no idea why there is three, and it seems to only fit face out :confused: You'd think that they would make those side inserts in the exact middle so that the clip on the holster can grab it correctly.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Received my teal and purple case. Tried on the teal with stock battery, there is no movement and screen protector is better than Otterboxes, that has to be said. There is the volume button issue and if course, the case does seem fragile as it has been discussed.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I removed the foam and inserted Hyperion battery. This battery is somewhat thinner than Mugen. The case closed completely with the battery door and there is no movement. Btw, to remove the glue and remnants of foam, use nail polish remover. Easy.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I had to remove the screen protector, it was still annoying. Now there is movement.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Sigh, I have the echo too. I tried increasing the hole with hot wire, increased it a lot but no change. Anyone gor any ideas?
[General Accessories] Brad.S.:
I gave up and returned my black/Teal.

Take a picture in low light with flash as well. My case would make the corners of the picture black like it had a filter.

The echo on mine was remedied by taking off the TPU, but that is hardly a practical fix.

Will you please try a couple calls without the TPU?
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Yeah, you are right, it is the tpu.
[General Accessories] yayo685:
The camera issue on these cases was something that I had worried about. A shame though becase it would have been cool ti have all that battery life.
[General Accessories] Jay Rock:
You can still get the battery life, without the rugged protection though.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
Yeah and who cares about drop protection right? (Wrong).

By the way, this thread is sadly empty, Note 3 people made over 300 comments on ZL's page in a very short amount of time but we are neither contributing here properly nor or ZL's page. I don't think a revision is coming if you guys won't be expressing interest.
[General Accessories] vectron:
I was under impression Zerolemon guys trying to keep all the changes consistent between S3/S4/N2/N3. N3 section of the forum gets more visibility because its a new device and everybody jumps in looking for accessories. N2 section doesn't get as much attention because its an old device.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
So as a business, what is the point of making a revised version for an old device? I am just worried we will miss out.
[General Accessories] ultra78721:
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Have you guys found a remedy to this problem?

The volume on mine has to be pressed hard as well
[General Accessories] Brad.S.:
Slide a piece of ductape or paper in between the TPU and the button. It may take a few tries to get the thickness and position correct but you could make it feel just like using the phone without a case.

Side note: Mine is currently in the mail for return/refund. I hope they come out with another iteration soon, there aren'y many options when it comes to covering the 9300mAh battery in a nice case.
[General Accessories] tonylee000:
Hey guys, I dont know if this has been discussed or even flagged, but thought id share.

I had layered up some black tape to the case sat on the phone without movement, so the phone was snug. Since remiving this mod the phone doesnt reboot anywhere near as much. Su the phone isnt as snug and dont get why its an issue but it was causing random reboots, particular when I chucked the phone on the bed etc. Ive also downgraded from 4.3 back to 4.1 to solve other reboots. Sammys rushed this update out a bit quick imo just for gear xmas sales.

I emailed about the pressure marks on the innershell and how it started pulling apart when removing the outer tpu case, they sent me a whole replacement! The new case isnt exactly the same, the tpu outer case has a better finnish to it, (or it could just be the finnish had worn off the original, it was a day1 case i had) but still no inbuilt screen protector despite rami suggesting they have now. Also ive noticed the adverts have changed from 'this initial release does not have the inbuilt screen protector' to '2 layer protection' so looks like theyve dropped the screen protector all together
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I received the screen protector ones. Not very good screen protectors either.
[General Accessories] xperiaforme:
I mean don't get me wrong guys, at least we have a case for extended battery and even the screen protector is better than Otterbox's so these guys are on good route.
[General Accessories] javip:
no they are not. they are far from "on a good route" they had months of delaying this case to come out with such a shotty product. i feel almost robbed of the money i spent on this toy plastic case. everything from having to remove the foam to get it to fit the extended battery, adding tape to eliminate echo to having to 'jam' the volume buttons with padding so they would work correctly; and still have to much movement in your phone.

no they are not a on a good route at all. all i can say is they have a good battery. that's it. there is nothing good about the rugged case at all.
[General Accessories] planetbeen:
I don't get it. I haven't had any problems with the rugged case besides the volume button. No echo that anyone has told me about and I don't have any idea what the "shifting" issue is.

I didn't use the battery cover (the one you are not even supposed to use with the extended battery) and nothing seems loose.

Do I just not shake and squeeze my phone enough? Hmmm

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[General Accessories] tonylee000:
Your not suposed to remove the foam from the battery cover, its their for the standard battery and isnt used at alm with the zl battery. Never had any echo you speak of. No problem with the volume buttons - have you actually fitted it properly? The phone isnt as snug as id like tbf and once I fitted a mid to make it snug it resluted in reboots and has been fine since I remived the mod and the amount the phone 'moves' really isnt a problem. Overall this is a GREAT case but it unfortunately IS expensive.
[General Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
Just received my black/red case this morning and ran it all day without any issues whatsoever. I fully expected problems and a possible return after reading reviews but for whatever reason mine is solid. No echo, no movement of the device in the case. First thing I did was remove the screen protector. So far very very happy. I have been running the extended battery and OtterBox mod since it was first posted and I'm liking this solution much better. I don't even have any issues with the volume up/down or power buttons, all work perfect.
[General Accessories] rabbiporkchop:
I bought the rugged case and the 9300 battery and put it all together and everything works just fine. I would highly recommend this combination to anyone that needs it. I will be getting rid of my Otterbox case because this solution works much better.
[General Accessories] Siege630:
Do you have any issues with echoing in the phone?
[General Accessories] rabbiporkchop:
I do not have any of those issues.
[General Accessories] Siege630:
Just got the rugged case.

I'm not sure if there's a use for it, personally, it's rather bulky compared to the standard tpu case.

I didn't hear any complaints about echoing, I did realize that the volume up button was a bit harder to press, while volume down was much more sensitive.
[General Accessories] PrettyJAE.swag:
Just wanna ask if you can remove the screen protector on the case? Thanks!
[General Accessories] Minglesny:
Case

Yes, you can remove it if you push it forward but once you do that, you will not be able to put it back since the glue will not stick like it was a new. I have it on, it is very responsive.

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I do have issues with echoing, I have discovered it is provoked by the TPU case, once I remove it, the echo disappears according to the people on the other line, but if I put the speaker on, then the people do not hear echo, very weird. The TPU case looks like it's got everything covered and not blocking anything, will investigate more.
[General Accessories] Evofusion:
Bump

I got the echoing too. Not only that but this case makes the microphones very sensitive, making it sound like you're crumpling paper in front of the mic when the case is moving (like from one hand to the other, or setting the phone down on the table)

Don't know... Kinda disappointed to be honest. If anyone finds a solution to these problems please post!
[General Accessories] gshadow325:
Solution for me was, email seller on Amazon and get a return label and they sent a replacement out
[General Accessories] Athos008:
Man, what a case! In some occasions it's a must!
[General Accessories] gshadow325:
Yah when you are beating something with it lol.
[General Accessories] Athos008:
LOL!
[General Accessories] PrettyJAE.swag:
Can you please make a review on Youtube for this? Please please please. Thanks!
[General Accessories] Kuchar09:
Has anyone had any issues where the person on the other end said you sounded muffled? I'm not having any issues with echoing just everyone says I sound muffled. They say it isn't bad but defiantly different from without the case. My mic holes look clear and not covered at all so I'm not really sure what to do. If I remove the TPU case they say I sound normal.

I also noticed that my volume up and power button are extremely hard to press while the volume down can be pressed extremely easy and on accident many times. And when the volume up finally works it almost acts as I'm pressing up and down together. I think I read someone said to use tape but idk if that will fix my volume up issue, almost like it isn't lining up..

But anyways this is a black/black case with a screen protector it that matters at all. I'm debating on possibly returning it for a newer batch or something by getting a different color like teal/black. I just got my battery and case yesterday and installed my NFC chip and wireless charging coil (pic below) and am very pleased so far minus this case. I had zerolemon on my Nexus and know they will do whatever it takes to make the customer happy and doubt this case will be any different.

Thanks for any help you guys can give me!!!
[General Accessories] Siege630:
Got the rugged case a while back, but I only used it for a couple hours before deciding that it was something I didn't like.

When I was using it, I made a few phone calls and nobody noted any echoing issues, but I did recognize that the volume up button was extremely hard to press, while the opposite was for the volume down.

In comparison to the TPU case, no problems at all. Volume buttons work fine, as well as no echo sounds.
[General Accessories] fireishott:
Just got the shipping label to send back my mint and black case....bummer, everyone I called complained of echo and all the buttons a pain to press.. If I take off the tpu case all the echoes are reported to go away

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I did a nfc mod like u did and works great.. how about charging times with the wireless charging I have been considering this route...may I ask what parts you used
[General Accessories] Kuchar09:
I emailed Zerolemon and they are sending me new cases. Surprisingly my white TPU case doesn't even fit correctly as seen in the picture below. The side will not stay covering the phone even without the charging coil in there. Ignore my shattered glass, I have to replace the glass this weekend..... again. Hence why I bought a rugged case this time lol/

Honestly I don't have any charging times yet since I'm still on my 2nd drain cycle for the battery. I can tell you that it charges at .632 Amps and still want to try and get it up to the full 1 Amp that my charger and coil are capable off. With a stock battery I could easily charge the battery from dead to full overnight so I would think I should be able to charge from full from around 60% hopefully with the zerolemon. I will be able to tell you for sure once I finish the 5-6 charge cycles.

Here are the parts, I use the Panasonic charger on my night stand and absolutely love it!!!! If I remember correctly I believe both chargers were charging at the same amperage according to my phone app. Max Wireless Charging Current

Coil

Panasonic Qi Charger

Lerway Qi Charger
[General Accessories] fireishott:
So I received my replacement case and it still had an echo....rather than waiting again and possibly I decided to make some mods on the case to see if it helped ...I took my solder iron and ran it through the mic hole from the inside out on the tour and on the plastic then took a razor to clean it up...I still need to do some more cleaning but all complaints of the echo are gone
[General Accessories] Mac of York:
Yeah, they offered to replace mine but I've noticed it's not all the time so I figured it wasn't worth dealing with. Keep us updated if it keeps working!
[General Accessories] fireishott:
Well I was told that there is now an echo..but it is faint I am at a loss....I seen in some otter thread for that people where complaining of the same thing and taking out the built in screen protector fixed this issue...but that was just some old post on the otterbox Facebook
[General Accessories] Mac of York:
I don't have the screen protector on.
[General Accessories] adoe:
In case of hearing echo...

Just apply a thin layer of tape at the inside on the microphone hole (on the phone bottom) and the echo will be gone forever. Tested it with my two phones.
[General Accessories] Mac of York:
I don't get it -- can you explain it in-depth for us slowpokes?
[General Accessories] fireishott:
I will try this tomorrow morning and report back has anyone complained of not hearing you ?

Update: Tried it no go....no one could hear me...so that trick lasted a whole 2 mins glad it is working for you...Could you post pics on what you have done?
[General Accessories] adoe:
The problem

Well, the idea with the tape works for me, a bit. I had to speak very loud so the other one can hear me. I think the problem is that the outer shell material is too hard. When you apply it en you rub it with your finger making a phone call at the place of the speaker, you will hear on the other phone very loud rubbing. When remove of the outer shell the sound will fall off. So I think the outer shell will "conduct" the noise from the speaker to the microphone. I have taken every measure. Bigger hole mic in casing inner/outer, total isolation in the inner cover using foam. Nothing helps. For me... bye bye zerolemon. Trashcan.

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Well, i did one final solution and it worked. Although my voice is not very clear on the other side it is hearable. I put a little bit of foam between the mic and the inner shell, between the phone and the inner shell. Then put the outer shell on and test it. Hope it works for you.
[General Accessories] adoe:
pictures

added pictures
[General Accessories] fireishott:
What kind of foam is that? Did you cut a sponge and is that on the inside of the hard case or is it between the tpu and hard case
[General Accessories] adoe:
both sides of the inner shell. see my pictures. you still hear a echo but far far away.
[General Accessories] fireishott:
Cool I will try that later. ..I don't think there is any way to completely eliminate the echo. .. This case is a total piece of ****
[General Accessories] smart_ask:
Echo fix

I had echo with my case. I worked trying to silence around the bottom mic hole with no luck but for me the problem was the second mic at the top of the phone. I used some peel and stick furniture feet felt and cut them to the thickness and size I wanted and stuck a small piece to the inside of the top cover to cover the mic hole extending almost completely to the ear phone cutout then took a small nail heated and melted a hole for the upper mic through the felt. It sounds like it does without the cover. Hope it works for you'll if you try it. Nice case ...... now.

Well it came back ... Now I have filled all the back plastic case with bits of shipping foam (rubbery kind) ... so far no echo but not going to say fixed yet. I have had three calls with no echo but who knows.