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[G2 General] katamari201:
The phone is afraid of high ISO and noise and uses the ois as a crutch, making the shutter speed super slow to increase light. The blur that results, however, is far worse than any noise. It also makes the night videos slideshow like no other. If you can hold your hand very steady, night shots come out good and bright, if the autofocus behaves properly that is. The two biggest things that need to be fixed are the terrible autofocus (tap to focus is bad as well and is too stupid to focus on a face even if I tap directly on it) and LGs aversion to using high ISO or fast shutter speeds. Their noise reduction is also way too aggressive. It's the complete opposite approach from samsung and apple. The viewfinder is always fast on those phones. They don't have ois and dont give a crap about noise. Their images are also way way better in consistency. If you cant do ois right, dont do it at all.
[G2 General] alias3800:
HTC One photos only look good on the HTC One screen. OMG the lack of detail, the purple haze at night over photos. Oh man..

Ignorance in bliss with that camera.
[G2 General] Zoide_:
Are the camera issues mentioned in this thread fixed by the camera apps on the AOKP/ParanoidAndroid/CyanogenMod ROMs?

Or is there no fix for the LG G2 camera? I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 and I've been thinking of buying an LG G2 (giving the S4 to my wife), but all of this camera stuff is really scaring me away.

Thanks
[G2 General] leomd333:
Man there genuinley is nothing wrong with the camera, i use the aosp camera.
[G2 General] mm79k:
I strongly disagree
[G2 General] leomd333:
It may be rubbish with the stock camera app. For me its fine with the camera app from carbon rom.
[G2 General] phatmanxxl:
The G2 has a great camera, just the stock camera app blows.

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[G2 General] alias3800:
LMFAO

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Yeah that's what it is. If you turn down the exposure on the camera, the viewfinder FPS picks back up and the shot fires off quicker. The hardware is just trying to let in too much light and trying to eliminate too much noise.

But man.. Reading through some of the posts in this thread would lead you to believe that the camera is an unsalvageable piece of garbage. Far from it.
[G2 General] sdsubball23:
Does the camera snap faster and does it have a faster shutter speed with the different camera app?
[G2 General] nanoy009:
i think mine is deffective

The camera is just unusable. Crap. I cant even take a good picture a still image. My viewfinder even moves just like when u tap a still water. Its weird. It even creates a double effect. Ill post a pic and u can see the moon dopple effect.
[G2 General] nanoy009:
Heres another link to the video i have uploaded taken from my g2. Besides from the unstable autofocus the viewfinder is also unstable. I have never experienced such issue on my previous devices.

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=kelvin%20danes&sm=3
[G2 General] Incep:
YES, the viewfinder has a very low FPS, does it look bad? It definitely does. And YES this calls for a different use than Apple's 'snap and go' approach with low details but low blur. If you have a still motive indoors at night it's great, my roomate has an S4 and it didn't stand a chance, it just looked like it was pitch black. If you use the updated version of the LG camera combined with Jinshu Sur's camera tweaks, it's turning into a pleasure to use.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
There is no lack of detail, the detail is better actually. Low MP doesnt equal low detail. The One focuses better and has better colour and contrast balance, this results in better pictures and more detail, if you get it wrong, which the g2 does more often than not, details wash out in bright areas or get crushed in dark ones. Get the focus wrong and all the MP in the worlds wont help you, you just end up with a large file.

With the HTC at high crop levels you end up with pixelation, with the G2 you end up with rounded blobs. Is that really better? Its not when the blobs are all one colour because the exposure and balance is so far wrong.

The purple haze on the HTC One at night is not universal, mine doesnt have it at all, and takes brilliant pictures in low light that the G2 simply returns as jet black.

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Dont read the reviews, read the HTC One pictures thread, its images are better than anything ive seen posted in this section. If yours isnt producing the results you see there I call user error or a bad unit.

Ive attached 2 pictures, the first is the HTC One the second the N5. Now tell me, which has the better colour and contrast balance? Its not the N5. The N5 image is soft, warm and dark, the saturation is too high. There is more detail in the dark areas and the light ones in the HTC shot and the building are far too pink in the N5 shot. The HTC shot is far nearer to the reality. I get similar results with the G2 as i did on the N5.
[G2 General] jayochs:
I used the camera indoors to take pics of the dogs last night.. dear god its horrible. takes a good 5 seconds to take a picture with flash on whereas the gs4 takes 1. this camera is God awful it really is.. and I'm sorry but anyone who's saying jishnus mod does anything, it hardly does. it doesn't speed up focus, shutter speed, or low fps on the viewfinder. all it really does is has less compression for the images and better sharpness.. but none of that matters whatsoever when the firmware in the phone sucks.
[G2 General] :
So true! And LG's camera commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVwctdMUyWA) is downright misleading and fraudulent.
[G2 General] woof123:
Used it in what mode exactly?Tell me that you arent using AI,mode are you?
[G2 General] alpha beta gaga:
so why haven't you returned your g2 for a refund if it upsets you so much? surely if the shutter speed was so important to you, it would have been the first thing you would have road tested.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
You have to have faith that these things will be fixed. The S4 was a laggy mess at launch, the HTC One camera was rubbish, but both have been fixed. This phone is much younger than those, updates should come. If not then yes, it will be my last LG.
[G2 General] RayTrue04:
If I'm not mistaken the LG Optimus G's 13mp camera had similar issues and users once had the same faith you had. LG never released any software to fix things up, developers had to start creating their own mods to atleast make it somewhat decent. I wouldn't have too much hope if I were you in regards to the cam.
[G2 General] screenager:
for the people complaining it is too slow:

try holding down volume down and it will take a shot right away, and continue until you let got. it even will adjust focus between pictures.

another thing thats ver good: in low light, where many other cameras fail, this camera takes very bright pictures. because of the ois the exposure time can be a longer -> brighter picture. longer exposure leads to the low fps in the viewfinder. so get over it. this doesnt mean the camera is slow.

unfortunatly the "denoiser" is working overtime, so when you zoom in on pictures i feel they seem more blurry than they could be. i like a little bit grain.

still the lighting is captured very good, with a tendencie to over-expose but you can always make it darker.

so i hope someone will reduce the denoising! otherwise iam very satisfied.
[G2 General] jayochs:
you mean IA? as in, intelligent auto? no I never use that. I use standard mode and mess with settings because no matter what, it takes way too damn long to take a picture. NOTHING helps. not even sport mode. and his camera mod does nothing in terms of lower light focus speed with a flash on.
[G2 General] woof123:
Well i find it weird mine is focusing in a second even at night.So how come yours takes so long?
[G2 General] velato2006:
I believe the G2 camera is one of the best you can find in a smartphone, no doubt. It's the software settings that LG set which makes it looks crappy. LG didnt set the correct settings for low light usage, thus causing the lag and low fps. You guys should give the xxdabbeb mod a try, it fixes the low light slow frame rate issues..
[G2 General] thaimeobeo1410:
remember : low light - camera slow too ! if your G2' camera slow everytime, may be your G2 have a problem
[G2 General] :
Hi,

Maybe take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2548974...

:)
[G2 General] :
Hi,

:eek::confused:, I said nothing concerning this mod nor I compared this mod to yours or even said this one is better, or use your work or... I just provided a link if that help...

Weird behavior from you..., plus you want to close your thread :confused::eek:

:)

EDIT: ok, understood ;)
[G2 General] mannequin:
there's s new LG camera apk somewhere? the closed thread is confusing.
[G2 General] :
Hi,

Hum... Two posts above yours...: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2548974.

:)
[G2 General] mannequin:
that's not a "new LG apk". just a mod that altered the other mod as i understand it.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
I think its actually the new camera, but further slightly modded. The question was whether the mods do anything. Its certainly much faster.
[G2 General] Chad_Petree:
Interesting, seems like the G2 camera shares the same issue with the nexus 5 , it takes waaaay too much time to take a picture, but at least the G2 is able to focus :cowboy:
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
The point is, is the mod using the new Camera or not? If it is its fine, if not where is this new camera because no one is linking to it, just mentioning it!
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
Ok, I'm starting to wonder. Who mentioned exposure?

My tweaks on the DNA was to lower *exposure*, increase contrast and lower saturation.

Going into SuperCamera settings I found it has extra settings, UCam does as well. My G2 tweaks are to *lower exposure*, increase contrast, and increase saturation. Photos came out much better even indoors. Could exposure be the key?

I'm now trying out PA so SuperCamera no longer works but the ASOP camera on HDR is doing better than stock LG.
[G2 General] phyba:
I'm noticing on my wife's phone that it takes great pictures in the day time but at night it's pretty bad. What I mean is that the camera has a hard time focusing because the flash doesn't come on until you hit the shutter button. On my note 3, when you touch the screen to focus at night, the flash comes on so the camera can see what it's focusing on. On her g2, you can tap the screen but the flash doesn't come on, so how does the g2 know what to focus on if the scene is dark? It comes on after I hit the shutter button but by the time it tries to focus, it snaps the picture and all of her night shots are blurry. Is this normal? She came from a galaxy s3 which did the same thing as my note which makes sense but the g2 we are having issues
[G2 General] jayochs:
exactly. samsung phones are the only ones that get this right, it seems. in the thread for xdabebb's new camera mod, we brought this idea up, and he said he'd look into adding it if it's able to be added. would make night time photos so much better.
[G2 General] phyba:
Yea I see that as a no brainer. The g2 struggles at night because of that. I couldn't get one good pic out of 20 we took. She wants to take the phone back but I'm trying to find a work around because it's a great phone in all other aspects
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
HTC have now implemented that in the Ones camera. It does make a huge difference. With 'A Better Camera' from the Store you can use the flash in torch mode to allow the camera to focus, but its not ideal.
[G2 General] Sean473:
Supposedly the below trick helps to reduce general UI lag and camera lagg.. Can someone here give it a shot?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2479892
[G2 General] lunargecko:
I don't really think that doing this is safe or desired... if it is what I think it is, this lets your processor run a lot warmer than it should, ultimately resulting in a warmer phone and worse battery life.

On a side note, I've been running the CM10.2 nightlies (which are very stable at this point, especially in comparison to CM11) and the camera viewfinder and low light shots with and without flash are much quicker than LG's stock camera. One thing that I can't tell is if OIS is working or not, but it's not a big deal to me because the shots are still around the same quality as stock, just quicker to achieve.

edit: OIS works in CM, and should in any custom ROM.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Actually its the opposite. It throttles your CPU properly after turning it on.
[G2 General] lunargecko:
Reading through the thread, my impression is that the setting simply turns CPU throttling off on the software level, resulting in generally greater performance and heat. Some have even reported that their phones rebooted under high loads (e.g. games, benchmarks), which I'm not exactly sure constitutes "proper" CPU throttling.

YMMV, I personally never messed with the setting.
[G2 General] g2guy:
s4 to g2

I had a s4 and recently came to g2 cause it was cheap and has the newest processor. Stumbled on this thread and read up til 9 pages.

I agree the g2 canera is horrible at night shots. Daylight shots doesnt matter because in bright conditions all cameras are good. Hope its not a hardware issue... Lower sensor smaller aperture and can be fixed through software.

Comparing the two i can get maybe 5/8 decent shots of my son crawling in the living room with decent lighting. Whereas with the g2 i cant get any...or if i do manage to get some, all detail is lost. He looks like some pudgy face monster.

Has anyone used the aosp camera? How does it compare?

I don't use any speciall feature of the stock camera.

Lg needs to give a manual mode or allow the user to pkay with shutter speeds. Even in sports mode where shutter would be prioritized it still lags.
[G2 General] :
Hi,

I think you misread then... :rolleyes:

Turn ON "High Temperature Property OFF" does not desactivate the thermal throttling at all, this increases a litlle the CPU temperature limit before thermal throttling but in any case there is always the thermal throttling.

There is no hard reboots with this setting turned ON.

It's with "Thermal Daemon Mitigation OFF" set to ON that there is hard reboots during games/benchs. But here also there is always thermal trottling but I don't know why there is hard reboots.

Turn ON "High Temperature Property OFF" will not give you a device with 20°C higher, the CPU temp limit before the thermal throttling is at 70°C (about 60°C without this setting set to ON if I remember right) after (at) this temperature the thermal throttling begin.

And in any case there is always an ultimate thermal protection: at 110°C the CPU shutdown.

:)
[G2 General] lunargecko:
20°C might be on the very low side (that's colder than my house lol), but I've noticed this phone does run a lot cooler than phones I've had in the past (OG Droid, Droid RAZR) and they seemed to operate fine at warmer temperatures, albeit at the cost of holding a hot phone.

Do you know if custom ROMs that are not based on stock (like CM) have similar strict stock temperature throttling, or do they ramp up the temperature a bit more by default?
[G2 General] :
Hi,

There was a typo, this is not what I meant :D, corrected :)

I don't know about thermal throttling on CM, sorry. In any case you can take a look in /system/etc and open a file named thermald.conf (or something like this) to see wich CPU temps/CPU freqs are inside.

I guess it's almost the same thing.
[G2 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thread Cleaned, and that will be enough....of the back and forth. If there is an issue, it was resolved already. And questions regarding that, take it to the PM's. Vice cluttering up the threads...Thank You.
[G2 General] martindar:
yes it is using the 3.4.1 latest lg camera app and its a whole world better
[G2 General] mgraz506:
I haven't thought it was that slow. Then again, I've been using googles camera app

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[G2 General] horr1blek1tten:
I just use camera awesome stock camera sucks. Even tried the n5 camera
[G2 General] doctorxerxes:
The 3.4.1 update is considerably better. At least the viewfinder doesn't move at a snails pace.
[G2 General] R3Z3N:
Agreed. The LG update fixes most of the issues that was offered as a flash by another member here.
[G2 General] darksideauto:
This on cm 10.2 stable. No mods. No flash. Pitch black room except the nexus 7 playing a video. I'm totally content with this.
[G2 General] vipergrm:
Wow thats a really excellent photo. I've just got my G2 replaced because the camera is terrible. About 90% of the photos I take are out of focus. I've only just started using the replacement and the camera is much the same. Getting this really annoying haze for some reason. The last phone was the same. Any ideas what it is?
[G2 General] jigwashere:
Did you remove the protective plastic covering the lens? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but it could happen.
[G2 General] vipergrm:
Hi, yes I did check that too. No, that is not at all a stupid question as often the obious is overlooked so thank you :good:

I've actually rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM and the problem has gone away so I'm certain it is software related. Just waiting on MIUI ROM becoming available and then I'll be really happy :D
[G2 General] carbon12:
Some samples taken with my T-mobile G2... a little blur with Tae Kwan Do and me tapping away on the LCD to trigger the shutter... still acceptable to me knowing the lighting and action conditions.:good:
[G2 General] carbon12:
Indoor pool...

Picture of my TV because Optimus Prime is AWESOME.

Motorcycle show...
[G2 General] Galaxanarian:
Gs2

Completely agree. And the G2's autofocus is amazing compared to my old Galaxy S2.
[G2 General] ChrisFSU:
My camera was fast as can be before I took the latest Sprint update. I could hit the shutter 5 times a second and it would take great pictures. Now after this update, I'm lucky to get one picture every 10 seconds.
[G2 General] smederevoboy:
4.4

Correct slowest camera on Kit Kat update?

Thank you
[Moto X Q&A] skatewiz722:
hey, I have a quick question for you guys. I have two accounts set up on my gmail. For notifications I put the hangouts message sound for both accounts. Its really weird but after a day or two I noticed not hearing any sound when I get an email. I go into settings and under sound it gives me a random number. for example under sound it would say "3650". I switch them both back to the hangouts message sound. Then after another day or two it goes back to silent and gives another random number under sound. does anyone know whats wrong? has anyone ever had this happened?
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
must be something wrong with the hangouts app. have you tried assigning a different sound? one that was included with the device?
[Moto X Q&A] skatewiz722:
why would the hangouts app have anything to do with it? im just using the sound. I have not tried any other sound though.
[Moto X Q&A] jayboyyyy:
its possible the hangouts sound is being sent to the phone from the play store so it could be getting changed because of the hangouts app being in control of the sound you are selecting. he was just saying that might be an option so you might try changing it to another sound to see if it continues. if it doesn't then something must be happening with hangouts. it might make sense that google changes the hangouts sound on its end and then "ports" it to the phone so they could change the hangouts sound whenever it wants.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] random155:
How is everyone unlocking their One since it's been blocked on the dev site. I've been out of the root game for a few phones.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dekarperboer:
Have you tried this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2470340

Or else maybe some info in this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2313145

Goodluck!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] O2mini_noob:
Already 2 weeks into my O2 mini and I'm looking for a 4Gb card. I have a 2Gb card but have already loaded in a Lexipedia (concise Wikipedia), some video files, mp3s, and about 500MB reserved for photos, internet radio recording, offline web pages, and voice + phone call recording. Need more space for my VCD series so I can watch on the train.

Apparently, one store in Australia clearly stated on their website that any 2Gb High Speed cards 133X 150X will not work with the O2 Mini...yes, there are some users on this board who have got 150X cards running fine on their Magician but is not the norm.

Pretty much the Sandisk Ultra II and SanDisk normal SD card of 2G works fine on the Magician. So I'm looking for 4Gb cards that are around 60X or lower.

Checked on ebay and practically everyone's selling the Transcend and/or Adata 150X 4Gb SD cards which I doubt will work on the Magician. So hopefully in the coming months, if not sooner, Sandisk will make a normal 4Gb SD card.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kneeslasher:
There was a thread on the the accessories section a while back. Basically, if you want a sure bet, try the 4GB AData MMC (the green one, not the pink SD). A user reported that these definitely work. There are a ton selling on eBay as we speak for ~£120 inc p&p.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Icefeldt:
I second that.

Running a normal Sandisk 2GB without Problems!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] O2mini_noob:
Unfortunately all the 4Gb's on ebay seem to be the high capacity 150X ones (pink ones). That's why hopeful that they will release the green 60X ones
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gadgetman901:
The 4GB Sandisk works with the Jam, but it doesn't work correctly with normal readers for the desktop that are out on the market right now. Sure, you can put movies and large files on the 4GB, but try putting a ton of photos and smaller files, such as map data. I found that the Sandisk 4GB version fails after a while, time and time again. My 2 GB Sandisk works flawlessly. Fortunately for me, my retailer off eBay has refunded my payment and I am sending his card back.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] O2mini_noob:
Hi gadgetman901,

Very curious as to how you managed to get your hands on a Sandisk 4Gb when there is no info about it on the Sandisk official website. Tried to search on ebay for it but the only 4Gb cards that showed up was an Ultra II that looks exactly like a Sandisk but is not a Sandisk brand.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-NEW-4GB-U...yZ103409QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gadgetman901:
It was on eBay a few weeks ago. The reseller does not have them listed on eBay right now. I called Sandisk when I first got it, and was having trouble formatting it with my laptop and desktop. They said that it was a counterfeit, but the reseller told me that he got them from Asia where they just were released. Regardless, the 4 GB showed up on my PPC and Desktop as 3.78 GB FAT32; however after copying my files from my 2GB to the 4GB, it pooped out every time. There was something definitely wrong with this card. I got my money back so I am still in the market for a 4 GB. Does the card you listed work with the Jam and Window XP computers??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] O2mini_noob:
No I haven't got any 4Gb cards. I would probably agree that the card you bought was counterfeit. Which probably is good news..when Sandisk release their 4Gb card, it should work on our Magicians
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] udibd:
gentlemen, the 4GB is for sure a fake, please be carefull when someone offers you such cards. they are at most 512M if you are lucky and the ID on the SD is set for 4GB sundisk etc. this is also true for flash disks (disk on key) where in every market in china you can find 8GB sony - which are actually 128/256. Be carefull.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] O2mini_noob:
Counterfeit Sandisk 4Gb looks so real

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=103409&item=7574128504

You won't know unless you checked Sandisk's website and contact them whether this is the real article or not. If not for this forum, I'll probably be buying that one.