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[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
cm-11-20150101-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl looking good in quick view, although still having the timer countdown glitch.

Also, and perhaps a bit OT but relating to CM’s support for external devices (which does impress). I was pleasantly surprised to see how many devices could be connected by OTG cable and threw a few curve-balls at the device and CM. Some of this may already be known but I hope there is something new in it.

- USB Mouse: Works fine. An adorable little mouse cursor appears. Mouse clicks act like finger presses. Seem pointless (as opposed to pointer-less:)) unless mirroring phone to larger screen.

- Standard USB keyboard: Works great and IMO is a more valuable addition than the mouse. OS understands more key functions than native droid keyboard.

- Wireless Keyboard/mouse/transmitter works fine. Both mouse and keyboard work.

- G4 Mac desktop USB keyboard. Works but Num-lock is an adventure.

- Xbox Wireless USB controller: Provides minimal enter, back, left, right, up, down function but when disconnecting froze phone require hardware key combo to force reboot.

- Alienware Playstation 2 type USB controller. Even more limited than the previous one; this one only seemed to have enter, left, right, up, down. No apparent back function

- Gigaware low budget USB webcam: Did not work. No apparent effect on phone.

- 8GB USB thumb drive and a couple of dual slot card readers: Works great and also detectable by Philz allowing backup/restore to USB drives.

- External, independently powered Sata platter based drive did not work. I had read a post implying that this would work but would have been surprised if it did.The USB connection on external SATA drives is a big part of power management. For some, even if power is connected the drive does not even start to spin until the USB cable is connected and I don't think the phone can handle that part.

It was nice to see how much of that stuff worked but now I'm curious about power consumption and looking for an inline USB power meter and an OTG cable that allows charging :).

[EDIT 1/5/15, 7:15pm EST/DST Doubling back with a bit of power rating information for the devices tested, ranked from least to most consumption.

- Bluetooth keyboard; 3V, 50mA, device independently powered by batteries.

- Wireless transmitter for mouse/keyboard; 5V, 55mA, device independently powered by batteries.

- Xbox Wireless USB controller transmitter, specs unknown, device independently powered by batteries.

- USB Mouse; 5V, 100mA, device powered by USB connection.

- Standard USB keyboard; 5V, 100mA, device powered by USB connection.

- Alienware Playstation 2 type USB controller; 5V, 100mA, device powered by USB connection.

- G4 Mac desktop USB keyboard 5V, 200mA (contains 2 port USB hub), device powered by USB connection.

This reveals the obvious; that bluetooth is a good bet as it consumes the least power, the device is powered by batteries, and you don't have to use the already overused micro USB port.]
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
[MENTION=5119654]IronTechmonkey[/MENTION] can you please test the hdmi functionality in the latest nightly does the hdmi output work it will be great thanks
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
My initial question on this is it sounds like you use hdmi, is there a reason why you can't try it out on your own to get your answer? Not trying to be a d*ck, jw, thats all

Yes, hdmi does work.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Such an ask without even thanking for the post responded to. Tsk tsk ;)

Consider how many items I tested. If I had a micro to standard HDMI cable or more importantly an external device capable of receiving HDMI I would have tested and reported. That said, I do plan to test this in a few days. Thanks to palmbeach05 for confirming.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I got a Micro HDMI male to HDMI female adapter and had a chance to test in the 1/1/15 MSM8960 JBBL nightly . It did not work although the phone and TV were clearly talking through the cable when connected:

- Phone media sound mutes.

- Phone goes into forced landscape mode for all screens including desktop regardless of native and launcher based rotation settings.

- TV screen input type displays HDMI for a few seconds before fading (an indication that TV has seen an HDMI device).

- When cable is disconnected a flash of colored squares on the TV indicates a change of state at the TV, the phone goes back to portrait mode and resumes playing sound.

From what I've read this may still be a limitation of CM but there is also a lesser possibility that this is due to limitations of the TV. The only reports of successful HDMI connections I've seen for the Atrix HD are in stock but I did not have long enough access to the test rig to try stock and eliminate TV and cabling as potential issues. Will do that next chance I get.

[EDIT] Tested in stock on the same gear and HDMI worked great. Phone went into landscape as described above and the TV picked up the image of the desktop fine with minimal cropping of the side edges - possibly correctable at the TV. Media audio plays to TV through HDMI connection with no additional configuration required at TV or phone. Not sure what (if anything) is missing from CM in regards to to fully negotiating the connection and sending the video/audio.

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While researching this I found references to it working or not working as CM evolved. I'm preparing to test in stock to make sure it was not an issue with cables or TV but meanwhile, do you know when that report of success is from and if it was in CM11?
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
well thanks for clearing that out i had bought and micro hdmi to hdmi converter looks like not going to buy an hdmi cable thanks
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Yes, it was CM11, I was actually on the same one you were testing on, the 1 Jan build.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for confirming that! Was it in Dalvik or ART? I run ART so maybe this is an ART thing (thoughts of an old glitch come to mind; where charging with phone powered off caused spontaneous reversion to Dalvik). Will test same 1/1/15 nightly under Dalvik next chance I get.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Yeah i was on Dalvik
[Motorola Atrix HD] ssuds:
Yes, that's a 3.5" floppy in a USB floppy drive. Everything works fine. Talk about fantastic OTG support :p
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
That is reassuring. Will have a chance to test in Dalvik in few days. Tx.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
ART v Dalvik, HDMI-Micro out fail

Now that the nightlies are really weeklies I’ve been through msm9060 jbbl 1/19/15 and 1/25/19 builds which have both been OK. A couple of things about ART and HDMI-Micro out.

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ART v Dalvik

For 6 months I've been running exclusively in ART but just went back to Dalvik (as part of testing HDMI-Micro out) and have some observations.

In ART, as expected, the graphic experience was smoother and app opening was quicker, and battery life under my usage pattern was a bit better. Back in Dalvik, although graphics experience is not as smooth and apps take longer to open, there are 2 other aspects of being on Dalvik that almost made the hitchy feel and slower speed worth something:

1) If you frequently flash ROMs and have many apps to install or back up; ART adds a huge time overhead to certain tasks – up to many additional hours depending on what you are doing, particularly during:

- ROM install with recovery/reinstallation of user stuff.

- TiBU backups and restores.

- Recovery based ROM restorations, particularly if Cache/Dalvik are cleared.

- Installing Apps

2) Also (and not necessarily ROM related); Google Sheets and Docs behave poorly in ART with crashes and stalls at app open. I would expect that the nature of the gapps package used and other factors matter to this, but Sheets and Docs have behaved better in Dalvik for me

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HDMI-Micro out fail

HDMI-mico out still Not Working in anything but stock JB. CM and other KK builds not working including the following:

- CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/1/15 nighlty in ART.

- CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/19/15 nighlty in Dalvik (converted to Dalvik from ART)

- CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/25/15 nighlty in Dalvik having never been in ART

- Clean flash of Validus msm8960 jbbl Lollipop (no gapps)

- Clean flash of CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/19/15 nighlty in Dalvik (no gapps)

- CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/25/15 nighlty in Dalvik having never been in ART (restored)

In all of the cases listed above when HDMI cable was connected between phone and TV; Phone screen goes to landscape, media stream muted at phone speaker, and TV flashes as if about to receive signal but no video or audio on TV.

I cant think of a reason why the TV would be able to receive properly from stock JB but not any of the other builds on the same device. In the interest of thoroughness I have to test on a different TV. Beyond that I don’t know.
[Motorola Atrix HD] jwhite5840:
Anyone have any experience with newer nightlies? I've read this entire thread and conversation seems to really have slowed down since the new year. :)

I've started out with the M12 snapshot and have had relatively good luck with that, but was considering jumping to nightlies. Have attempted to review the CM11 changelog for MSM8960_JBBL but it only goes back to 2015-01-03.

http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960_jbbl/

So no really good way I can locate to review all changes since my M12 snapshot.

Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Commits had really slowed down for several weeks but picked up a little when the weekly released started. Supposedly there may be an M13 as well. In any event I've been on 1/1/15, 1/19/15 and am now running the most recent which is 1/25/15. All have been fine.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
So all in all, dalvik is better..based on your running of it anyways..? I've noticed battery is a tad bit better. I'm still unsure which to run..but thx for the input.
[Motorola Atrix HD] jwhite5840:
Were there any particular fixes you found useful between M12 and the current nightly?

The only issue I am having other than the occasional odd gremlin is that the backlight on the soft buttons (back, home, recent) doesn't seem to be adjustable. It's just on 100% all the time unless the screen is off (obviously). This is annoying when using a theme such as HoloGlass which makes the soft button bar transparent - it's always brighter than any other region on the screen.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
There have been changes to the way profiles are created and managed but I don't use Profiles and only know this from check-ins with the change-log.

Quick Settings Tile GPS now called Location with option to configure toggle-able location states (similar to existing settings for sound, network modes, and display timeout). That's all I can remember although there were certainly other things.

I don't know that I understand this one. I never change the navbar or back-light settings (and the back-light setting only pertains to keyboard) and do occasionally use hologlass. The navbar buttons are of same intensity when I use Hologlass or default Holo. The native Expanded desktop settings work as expected to hide nav bar as do a handfull of apps that automatically hide navbar.

Side note: I love the way Holloglass looks, particularity on my minimalist and mostly black wallpaper but I don't use it regularly because of lag opening app panels that invoke it, and the processing overhead necessary to render transparency in general.

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Actually, battery better in ART and I still prefer ART for it's noticeable smoothness.

That said, the experience back in Dalvik has convinced me to revise my testing and build workflows so all of the installing and tweaking is done in Dalvik where it is fast, and then convert to ART afterwards. I used to convert to ART early in the process and do all my testing in ART - good for testing things in ART but s-l-o-w.
[Motorola Atrix HD] jwhite5840:
Turns out that this behavior only occurs when I am using "night mode" - an app which lowers the screen brightness below the minimum for use in a very dark room. Looks like it's actually an issue where the app does not lower the navbar (thanks for the corrected terminology) brightness in the same manner as it lowers the main panel brightness. Definitely not a CM issue.

Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] Aingaran:
Wifi disconnects and reconnects

Everything is fine with this rom, but my wifi disconnects and reconnects automatically in seconds.. anyone else have this issue?
[Motorola Atrix HD] jwhite5840:
No, I have had very stable wifi connections. Significantly better than stock, actually. Only oddity is that in the battery stats display the wifi "bar" is always solid, regardless of whether I have wifi enabled or not. Doesn't seem to matter. Currently on M12.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Oh, cool I thought you didn't like transparent themes and black/dark bgs.

Check your PM inbox, I've sent something to play with yesterday.

[emoji4]

That last statement of yours above sounded a bit like a Google rhetoric to me[emoji12].

I have no way to prove the opposite, but it's all lawyers over layers; for sure a static black screen is easier to draw, but scrolling text over it or over the desktop wallpaper (transparent themed app) shouldn't be so much much more system demanding I'd imagine...

But again, I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong here.

Cheers.

A
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Au contraire. I prefer black backgrounds for the lower power consumption and less noticeable stutter of graphics motion in GUI. When a black object moves across another black object, existing graphic stutter may not even be noticeable even though present. I also like transparency except for the resource overhead…about which I might admittedly be a bit unyielding.

Saw it. Will throw some fastidious granular testing at it in a couple of days (during days off from work) and follow up by PM. Thanks!

Ha! If I sound like a Google shill, that is incidental to my minimalist and absolutist inclinations. Rendering an object in motion over another stationary object must use more resource that rendering only one object at a time on top of all others. If more processor or memory is used to achieve this I don’t mind as long as there is no impact on human-device interaction. In the case of Hologlass the resource hit seems to occur when initially opening items that invoke it (Settings, People, other apps that defer to the system graphics) and that is NG by me...although I sure do like that look with my wallpaper.

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[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
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thanks

no stress on testing g no need extensive feefback

Enjoy
[Motorola Atrix HD] mrroks:
dude you are using M12 as you said , pls tell me how do you import and export contacts from & to sim card ? cause contacts and other 3rd parties apps gave me error like no contacts or no SIM .. :( ?
[Motorola Atrix HD] jwhite5840:
Sorry, I have not tried that. I am synching my contacts with my Google account and don't have anything on my SIM. Hope you figure it out!
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Sim contacts importing has been an issue for the longest time on cm 11. There's a commit somewhere on xda pertaining to this dilemma. I have never been able to import contacts from sim card in this type if ROM. Syncing from Google is a diff matter. That always worked for me.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mrroks:
Ive read somewhere , CM using dual sim sources for compiling which is causing the issue , ive managed to import from storage but exporting to SIM is still the Problem :(
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Yes. From storage works fine. It is just the Sim aspects of it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
Can anyone recommend me the best stable nightly with all the other tweaks of CM11 for our phone?
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I'm running 2-3. All good here
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
How is the M12 snapshot? I'm going for it. Is it fine or should i go for the latest nightly?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
M12 is outdated, latest nightly is up to date
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
MMS tied to camera issues?

Currently using the Feb 01 nightly, updating from previous nightly I was forced to 'hard' reboot my phone, down+power I believe is what it took, as it would hang entering recovery upon shutdown,,,

I've had traumatic brain injury so hope this is coherent, much editing to write what I can..

-On this nightly, MMS still does not work for me using ST, no send nor receive, ST played around with some settings on their end and at AT&Ts end and it worked for almost a day, have had that issue for many months now, reverted to a Micro GAPPs package and stock messenger, but with last nightly I ended up with 2 messenger, 2 camera apps, had to delete one of each in attempt to resolve issue with uploading photos, to see if HangOuts was the cause since it requires its own APN settings inside of the app, no luck.

-The camera app will fail to capture an image without warning, I use my phone for work in the field and take pictures of equipment for certain buyers in the middle of repairs to insure them the techs are doing what they ask, anal ik, but when I return home hoping to upload images some are missing out of the sequence I took them in without any warning or abrupt shutdown of app while in use.

-Wondering since MMS is tied to images and the camera app is having issues that the 2 are not related somehow?

Other apps such as FB will open and close from desktop, run in background and require a reboot to work properly again, at least can reboot with this nightly.

I know focus has moved towards the 5.0 variants and hope we aren't thought of as legacy devices and left to ponder buying new equipment to continue testing upon.. I have a car dock for every vehicle and a deskdock in every room for this phone...

There was more to report but my mind is wandering...

Or else these 1,627 APNs this build loaded onto my phone are causing some issues. only 4 are seen under networks though, using SQL Lite to edit my APN and found all the others...

If I reboot my phone the MMS message will send upon reboot, but I cannot send another.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
I'm on 3rd feb nightly.

My earpiece jack in the phone is not working at all. Anyone experiencing the same. I believe its a software issue probably and i'm right now too lazy to flash another rom to confirm it. Anyone?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'm running the 2/1 nightly which has no such problem playing audio through headphone jack for phone or media and there was only one commit adding a recovery option between the the 2/1 and 2/3 nighties. It is unlikely that this is a problem with the ROM but to be sure... don't be lazy. Test and report ;)
[Motorola Atrix HD] Outlaw92:
I knew somehow it wouldn't be a software issue but just posted here to know if someone is experiencing the same before moving on towards the hardware side of the phone. Apparently I just had to clean my jack inside out to clear out the dirt settled inside and it works flawlessly now.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
I don't know, but you're saying that you've had issues with Mms for months, that you haven't figured them out earlier and that you're still flashing nightly builds on top and still using that phone for work!?!

Dang, you like to tale risks which are potentially very costly...

You think that all that above make sense? Sorry, I don't.

Suggestion: flash back to stock and add one app at the time making sure everything works 100% before moving on.

Then once you're confident about the fact that all your installed apps work all fine, Nandroid backup, backup your apps' data and everything else, wipe everything and clean flash CM11-M12 and start app by app again making regular backups along the way. Never flash a new nightly over without a fully working backup...

Nothing I wrote here is new - sorry. But I'm not sure what kind of magic answer you've expected either...

- - -

I've (dirty) flashed Feb 3rd nightly yesterday (which I have no problem in doing - otherwise why would CM include an updater in the rom?) after being on Dec 23 since then.

Everything seemed fine until I realized that I had no longer power menu options for expanded desktop and advanced reboot.

I've tried clearing cache/dalvik, reflashing nightly, readjust developers options and a few reboots and still no luck.

I ended up REAL dirty flashing BACK to Dec 23: a big no-no —i know-, but since there has been almost nothing really major committed in between and the fact that I was just ready to nand backup when I realized those issues and had JUST deleted my previous nand... [stupid me].

Anyhow, that seemed to have worked and cured the issues... But before I clean flash again later or with the next nightly, anybody else experienced something similar with Feb 3rd build??
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
cm-11-20150209-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl (with pa_gapps-modular-nano-4.4.4-20150208-signed) on AHD/MB886 looking good in brief tests of major points:

Phone

Wifi

BT

Mobile Data

LTE

Bluetooth

GPS

Media play

Charge while powered off

A minor oddity, perhaps due to some cleanup in the ROM during the past few weekly/nightlies:

Some icons that have persisted across many ROM installations have been changed and stay changed if I reinstall the app or restore it from TiBU.

eg:

- Icon for Stock Moto Camera icon (brown camera icon) has been replaced by same silver camera icon used for CM stock camera.

- Old document shortcuts now turned into a stock droid icon

Also; Digging into the Google Docs/Sheets dreadfulness in ART. Even without the apps running if you Sync Google Docs/Sheets/Drive from Settings they stall so the issue seems to be occurring at authentication rather than at the manual running of the apps by the user… and therein lies a partial workaround.

Opening the apps when there is no data connection seems to work better. After a moment the app will report refresh failed and show the content as last updated; then you can connect and sync manually. In fact, I don’t remember seeing that message in the past and think it’s appearance coincides with these problems as well as what seems to be a new requirement to have background data enabled in order to synch even if you sync manually.

Still odd to me that this does not occur in Dalvik. Have not had a chance to test on Lollipop (ART by default)

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They were/are present in my clean flashed 2/1, and now 2/9.

I reckon that would be called ytrid flashing.