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[G2 General] ZigZagJoe:
At the size those have been re-sized to and rather heavily compressed, no, it really wouldn't make much of a difference when trying to exactly replicate those shots with a DSLR. If comparing originals, it'd be a crapshoot in favor of the DSLR, but we aren't.

However, your post (#25) stated that you were unhappy with the phone's ability to capture moving objects, not image quality. None of those look like the subject was moving rapidly, unless your kid was actually headbanging at the time... so not really sure what this post was supposed to accomplish aside from more venting.
[G2 General] Bigralphn:
I am confused. First, cute baby. Second, I am confused. What phone for you take those with?...

Never mind. I see you said they were a year and a half ago
[G2 General] Jishnu Sur™:
This is offensive dude! All I see you doing is fight fight and fight. Here we are to help, not fight among ourselves.

OT: The kid is supercute! :)))))
[G2 General] kennonk:
I am assuming you are all running stocked based G2 Roms I am curious as to the quality (or lack of) on the pictures on Cyanogenmod based roms. On previous phones I've owned the picture quality has always suffered a little using the AOSP drivers but the speed was always a lot better.

Also on the note3 the stock camera is terribly slow, but if you disable post picture image processing it speeds way up with only a tiny bit of loss of picture quality. Does the G2 camera have an option like that? Just curious as my g2 is arriving in a couple days.
[G2 General] Bigralphn:
For the first time ever, I have not rooted this phone. I have yet to find a reason.
[G2 General] doronbh:
When saying I would be better off with less MPs and have higher shutter speed, I said it after starting I had the HTC One which has less MPs but a blazing fast shutter.

Again, I don't expect performance like a DSLR, but I do expect to point and shoot...
[G2 General] woof123:
Then i was right as it seems,you are trying to get an 60fps video in low light or indoors...Yes its to be expected,every G2 will react this way so yours is not faulty..Also i think that people are expecting way to much for this tiny camera lens...
[G2 General] j0ff:
So you've had a nexus 5? I just sold mine and bought a g2 as the camera is even slower on the nexus 5

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In the past 10 months I've had nexus 4, one x, one s, an old desire hd, nexus 5 and then the g2

The one s was the fastest shutter speed (the nexus 4 the worst...)
[G2 General] centro714:
Yea, I've also been experiencing blurry photos unless the subject is stationary.

Another strange issue I've noticed is uploading images to eBay. With my s2, images are Crystal clear, but blurred with the g2 (although actual image is clear).
[G2 General] ZigZagJoe:
What exactly do you mean when you say blazing fast shutter? Is it:

a) Fast time from button press to picture taken

b) Fast actual shutter speed (shorter exposure), less motion blur

if a, when you press the shutter button, is the G2 taking a while to focus then taking picture or is the phone sitting and doing nothing (is not focusing) for a few seconds before it takes the picture?
[G2 General] j0ff:
Just tested my g2 with my wife's aged htc one x. The one x is easily taking the better low light action shots at the expense of a far more grainy shot. I'd happily trade picture quality for less blurring. The HTC obviously has a far higher iso.

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And the issue (for me at least) with the n5 was shutter lag, that's significantly better on the g2. I was finding that my kids had walked off by the time the photo had been taken...
[G2 General] stevessvt:
Curious, is the blurring while moving because of you being stationary and the subject moving, or the subject stationary and you moving?
[G2 General] browncurry:
I completely understand where you are coming from. I had a Lumia 920 through work last year, and man, that thing could really take an amazing picture. I haven't tested the 1020 yet, but I have yet to use a phone with a better camera than the 920!
[G2 General] cristy7610:
If we compare the s4 camera and lg g2 ,what camera is the best...I ask this because my htc one is in service with hardware problems and I want to buy G2 32Gb.I just want to know if this lg camera take better shots in compare with s4.
[G2 General] Bigralphn:
OK, first, this is getting a little heated, so I was thinking to state I am not slamming anyone here with this. All the biggies praised this camera when reviewing the phone. I think it was DROID life that actually even praised it for motion shots. So may e it would serve all of to find out how they did it? Did they not really test if properly?
[G2 General] browncurry:
How about any comparisons between the stock LG G2 camera software and the mods that are floating around here? I'd love to hear/see some of the differences!
[G2 General] tizonly1:
So expecting my brand new LG G2 to be on par with my Galaxy S2 from 2011 is expecting way too much?

I didn't even ask for it to be on par with my old GS3...

It's hilarious how people become such fierce apologists for companies when they buy phones.
[G2 General] sdsubball23:
Have you guys been using the camera properly? I figure if the OIS really works with quick pictures, then there must be a certain method to do it that isn't too much of a hassle. Some people here haven't been having problems, are they doing something different?
[G2 General] twist:
Can you take burst shots on the g2 like the evo 4g? I love that feature and will miss it if it doesn't support it.
[G2 General] colbyfink:
Burst mode is the only way I get lucky enough to get a still shot of my 7 month old.
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
Thanks guys. I think she's cute too! That's why a good phone camera is important.

It's what we have on is at all times.

That's all we're doing is venting. This thread isn't fixing anything.

I posted photos to show an SLR isn't necessary to lug around to get photos.

There's no disputing the G2 has problems but saying "carry a SLR if tog want good photos" isn't the truth.
[G2 General] woof123:
If you expect to shoot in 60fps on a tiny lens/phone in every situation then you cant!!!Is that hard to understand?No one said that Lg doesnt need to improove the software.But yes you expecting way to much out of the tiny lens and you will be dissapointed for sure.Its not a DSLR even with that you will not be able to shoot 60fps in every situation.In the end if it doesnt suit you,you can just sell it and buy one that will.What is more hilarious is the unrealistic expectations that people have.
[G2 General] tizonly1:
iPhone 5s can shoot 120 fps in the same kinds of situations in which the LG G2 is cranking out a whopping 15 fps.

That is simply unacceptable.

And again.. I'm not expert, by any means, but could you explain to me why I can get 24fps when I ask for 30, but when I ask for 60 fps, I get 15 fps? In the exact same lighting..

Nobody is talking about shooting in pitch black. Indoors, in a well-lit room, a 2013 flagship device should perform much better than this. If the phone can't actually shoot at 60fps, in any environment other than high noon, cloudless days, the functionality shouldn't be advertised.

Again, my Galaxy S2 was capable of steady 30fps rates, indoors, with zero issue. My brand new LG G2 is pushing out 15 fps.

Unless you work for LG, I don't get what you're getting out of backing up performance this bad (and even if you did work for LG, it'd still make no sense to vouch for performance this bad).
[G2 General] Bigralphn:
Nothing on but the TV. Sorry, my kids are all grown so no cutie shots.

Oh, and not trying to prove anything. It is obvious she wasn't moving. Lol
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
Changing to 800 iso does help. I'm also on some Indian f320(?) camera. [MENTION=3276852]Bigralphn[/MENTION] the photos are pretty good, mine in low light typically look like they're 16bit
[G2 General] Bigralphn:
As I think was mentioned prior, flaah is real low light is really only good from 3 to 4 feet on any phone. Beyond that you will get blur and grain. The flash is just to small. I do not claim to be a good photographer but I know lighting as in addition to being an audio engineer when I was younger I also had stage and TV lighting classes as before I got married the plan was to work in the movie or TV industry. Unless you are going for some weird effect you want light even also. If you drop an f-stop in your frame it can ruin a still.

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Oops. Sorry for quoting myself. It was supposed to be an edit
[G2 General] SKyRocKeting727:
IMO, the HTC One has the fastest camera which I loved. The G2 seems to have trouble focusing sometimes...and when snapping shots, it tends to be a little slower than other phones. I agree, it is software and LG needs to address a fix in an update. They tout their camera capabilities in the commercial and people ask me how well the camera is...I don't lie, I say it's not good. It can and SHOULD be better.

Sent from my G2
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
There's another mode I played with tonight. The oddly named "Time Catch Shot". It works somewhat like Zoe. It takes photos before, and after?, clicking the shutter and allows you to pick the best.
[G2 General] :
best way to speed up is touch screen where you want focus on and shoot when image is clear.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] andre2p:
My G2 has the slowest camera I have had since my Droid Bionic 3 years ago. It is dreadful.
[G2 General] cristy7610:
I have also HTC ONE and I can tell you that LG G2 is way better.The only think I regret is boom sound from HTC.Now my HTC is in service because hardware problems with the microphone and battery,a big problem with this model.

In the night it was imposible to take a photo with htc one,but with lg g2 I can do this,so stop telling me about how good is the camera from ONE.
[G2 General] robfactory:
Moving pictures
[G2 General] SKyRocKeting727:
Results may differ between users. I found the camera snapshot speed to be quicker on the One, I never said that the photos were better. It focused a lot faster than my G2. Microphone and battery I had ZERO problems with on the One. Just because your had hardware issues doesn't mean it applies to all models. I was clearly stating my opinion. Although the G2 camera is good, It ain't Great!

Sent from my G2
[G2 General] centro714:
Wow, that looks good.

Did you use any custom settings or just auto?
[G2 General] centro714:
Daylight shots seem to work well:
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
Daylight shots are fine. It's when you get indoors under less than ideal conditions it goes to dump.
[G2 General] cristy7610:
if you put this two camera in low light conditions I am sure 100% that lg will take better shots over htc one.I always used htc phones but the camera and batery life was terrible.the only good thing about htc one is boom sound and the aluminium case.That's all.
[G2 General] robfactory:
I used the Time Catch Shot mode

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That's not true. I owned the HTC ONe and it ruled under low light conditions. WAY better than the LG since it didn't over process the low light pictures like LG does.

The LG might shine in many areas, but it doesn't hold a candle to the HTC in low light surroundings.
[G2 General] Incep:
I think most of the grievances in this thread can be accredited to a horribly slow viewfinder in low light conditions.

Compared to the S4, the G2 camera app felt extremly sluggish, way past what's acceptable. I immediately noticed it the first time I launched the app. But if you've tried the updated app now circulating on this forum, that update improved it a lot.

I'm definitely underwhelmed by the OIS, I need to hold the camera pretty still for it to take a picture in low light conditions, I wouldn't have noticed that it even had that function hadn't it said so on the box.

The actual time it takes to snap a picture in normal mode is pretty acceptable though, it's just that (at least for me) the UX is pretty stale. It breaks the fluidity of the process of taking a picture, something AOSP and iOS does in a great way.

With that said, a side by side comparison of the N4, S4 and G2 blows both of the former ones out of the water :)
[G2 General] cristy7610:
I have a problem with video sound quality..when I played a video recorded the sound is intrerupted ,and the quality is not so good.Is normal this or is just my phone
[G2 General] dsh23:
I've found the camera on my D802T to be very fast indeed.
[G2 General] cristy7610:
so you don't have frezing sound on video?
[G2 General] dsh23:
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No not in the small test clips I've shot so far, but I don't shoot a lot of video and my use has not been extensive.

When you say the sound freezes, I assume you mean the video keeps on playing yet the audio is missing. Can you describe the nature of the audio you're capturing? e.g. intermittent noise in otherwise quiet environment.
[G2 General] cristy7610:
exactly..I have intermitent noise in quiet enviorment...the video is playing but the sound freez.You can try to take a video shot in your house and after that listen with your headsets.If you have this problem you will notice imedietly.

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I found video sample on youtube with the same issue..outside the sound have no problem but inside(0:27 sec) the problem is evident.I think that this problem is general on this lg g2 but for others is not so evident issue.I belive this is a software problem...I repeat that this problem is more evident in silence enveiroment.

Here is the video sample : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzOHUSYkios[/URL]
[G2 General] dondavis007:
The only problem is indoor and bad lightening. The phone camera is worst than useless in those conditions. Good light great phone in bad light, a joke. This can be fixed with firmware, LG has a bit of a reputation when it comes to firmwares I'm sad to say...

If they fix the camera this phone is great, nowadays I'll bring my One when I think it gonna be some photos.

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
Instead of posting let's all send an email to LG telling them how disappointed we are with the camera and whatever the implications are. Whether we won't recommend to friends or whether well buy mute LG products.

Let's get it to an official channel where it makes some difference.
[G2 General] brucipher:
Sent them an email yesterday saying just that...
[G2 General] katamari201:
I was testing out the LG G2 at the AT&T store and also noticed how slow it was to capture picturers. I was just taking pics of the plaques and stuff around the store and it usually came out blurry took several seconds to snap. My Note 2, which I sold and was hoping to upgrade to an LG G2, took faster shots. My iPad 2 and now iPad Air have near instant shots. Tap the shutter button. SNAP. No slowdowns in dim light. It's just as fast and smooth.

People who make excuses for the LG G2 by saying it is a cellphone are dumb and suffer from the typical cognitive dissonance and feigned ignorance. An iPhone takes photos instantly and most are good shots. It has the word PHONE in the name. Why can't the LG G2 do the same?

Now I wish Apple would make a dedicated camera-phone. Fast and reliable auto mode, because life doesn't stand still for you to adjust manual settings.

I frequently just use video on phones with slow capture and grab a screenshot later. Better than nothing. What else is there on Android? Is the S4 and Z1 significantly faster then the G2 at picture capture?

What I hate about most reviews and photo comparisons is they just stick something on a tripod and compare some photos and its not at all useful for the average person who is looking for point-and-shoot performance. It's been done well on other phones and standards have already been set, so if something with a snapdragon 800 and OIS can't meet or exceed the standard, it should very well be criticized.
[G2 General] SupaSwag:
Really disappointed too...and my shots were outside during the day :( The panorama setting results in out of focus, blurry images. HDR could be better too. My S4 took way better pics and that thing doesn't even have OIS. I was really surprised by the panorama performance though. I kept my hands steady while moving to the side and they still turned out like crap. Still a great device but camera performance seriously needs an overhaul.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I haven't checked in with my former community for a little bit until tonight. And boy are there a lot of apologists here lol. I'm not sure what you get out of it. I'm not loyal to any company anymore (cell phones or otherwise) and I don't accept things that make me unhappy.

With that being said, life is too short and I will dump something I'm not satisfied with and move on to something that I enjoy better if I feel that it's necessary. And I will say that the G2 camera was a major factor when I dumped it for the Note 3. There were a few other factors too that I won't go into here.

Anyhow, the attached photo was taken with my G2 while I had it at a concert. It was one example of many of how disappointing the camera was to me. Blown out and poor quality. My gf took the same photo (which I don't have with me to attach) with her S4 and it came out much better.

And video was just a terrible experience with terrible results in most situations. Always focusing and audio issues.

It's also really funny how people dismiss the issues as "it's a cell phone". I've had probably over 10 different cell phones in the past couple years and the G2 ranked down near the bottom for worst overall camera experience for me.

I hope LG fixes this for you guys if it's not an embedded hardware problem. Good luck guys!
[G2 General] woof123:
How can it be a hardware problem,both share the same sensor.Except that N3 has no OIS.LG need to improove on the softare side,but they need to completely change the way they do denoise or tone it down by alot.Even with flash in low light the faces will look blurry cause the denoise is way to aggresive.
[G2 General] 19Interpol:
Best camera experience I've ever had with a smartphone has been with both an iPhone 5 and Lumia 928. The G2 camera is surely not in my top 5. Oh well thankfully I don't rely too much on smartphone cameras.
[G2 General] rsjet:
The reason on eBay the pictures are blurry while the S2 wasn't is because of eBay's scaling. eBay's site is scaling the much larger 13 mpixel pics of the G2 down and is doing a poor job of it, while the S2 only took 8 mpixel pictures. Much smaller and easier to scale.

If you want the pics to not be blurred on eBay, try taking your pictures at a smaller resolution with your G2 (like 8 mpixels instead of 13).
[G2 General] bova80:
not sure if I saw mention of it, but the other thing with this camera is how in certain lighting it makes the pictures seem like they are painted if you zoom in after the picture was taken.
[G2 General] Geezer000:
That is normal for any camera with no optical zoom. All you are doing is digitally zooming which is just a form of cropping the picture digitally to show you a closer view. If the lighting is low the ISO jumps and that causes "noise" in the picture. EVERY camera with digital zoom does this......
[G2 General] bova80:
but there are even times where pictures look painted in certain lighting without zooming.
[G2 General] Geezer000:
If you use a high Iso it will do that. You will notice it more in lower light and dark subjects especially with a phone camera
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
I know exactly what's he's talking about. my wife returned her first G2 because we thought it was a defect.

Photos often look like a watercolor painting just taking a photo making no changes to the settings and without zooming.

They say it's because of over aggressive noise processing.
[G2 General] 19Interpol:
Yup the G2 does a lot of over processing on some shots. There was another thread where someone had pictures of their kid posted and it looked like some watercolor painting. LG needs to do something with their software to fix that. Otherwise it's an excellent camera.
[G2 General] albsat:
Could another camera app solve this issue?
[G2 General] Geezer000:
I've tried all of them. It's a firmware issue.
[G2 General] centro714:
That's what I thought and actually tried taking and uploading lower res photos but still same blurred images.
[G2 General] fr4nk1yn:
There's some chicanery going on as well. I was playing with phone taking photos of the sunset in different modes. Looking on the computer by wireless storage one of the photos had the horrible banding in one area of the photo from over processing but on the phone the same photo looks normal.
[G2 General] beezar:
So, has Jishnu Sur's camera mod in the dev section helped this particular issue much? That is, the slow shutter speed and blurry pictures with moving objects especially in a dark setting
[G2 General] g1user101:
Photos will look bad in low lighting or artificial lighting. If your outside the phone takes pretty great pics :)
[G2 General] hurja:
For me this camera is good enough when there is abundance of light and I'm shooting statues but for all other situations it's frustrating pos. But I'm stuck with it for now. In all honesty tho it takes pretty good shots of well lit statues.

Otherwise a superb phone.
[G2 General] RayTrue04:
This thread just ruined the phone as an option for my sisters next phone. She wanted the original LGOG but that one too had camera issues. Seem LG is stepping their game up phone wise but could still use some help in the photo department.
[G2 General] znc62511:
Don't let this thread keep you from buying a G2. The only phone with a good shutter speed for a phone is the HTC one and its camera does not really compare in my opinion. I've owned both and the n5 and sgs3 not 4. Note 2 not 3. A G2 rooted is amazing.
[G2 General] ChrisM75:
Im not too impressed with the G2 camera so far, the focus is slow, the shutter laggy and the screen 'viewfinder' seems really slow as well, on my HTC One it was virtually real time, on my G2 its quite a bit behind.

I also find the output of the HTC One camera to be better. I find it very odd how reviews and users get such wildly variable results from the HTC One, for me it blows away any other camera phone ive used. Low light pictures are great, detail is better than the N5 despite half the pixels, colours are better, overall balance is better.
[G2 General] hasenbein1966:
Did someone here have a Galaxy S2 before?

How does the G2 camera compare to the S2 camera in

- shutter speed

- focusing speed

- low-light picture quality?

Would it be a "camera downgrade" if I swapped my S2 with a G2?
[G2 General] RayTrue04:
Not really the thread but the fact that the LG Optimus G also sucked on the camera department. The focusing was horrible on it and it would always struggle. They need better camera software, twice in a roll with a faulty camera is not a good look.
[G2 General] mm79k:
I gave up and sold the phone.

The phone is great and I love it in every way. The camera on the other hand is frustrating. this is the worst camera experience I have ever had in a smart phone, and I have owned countless of them.

I hope an update from LG will solve this issue for you guys.
[G2 General] phyba:
Just got my wife this phone and in low light toe shutter speed is absolutely hideous. It dips to like, 3fps in the viewfinder and then takes forever to snap a pic. I really can't see this not being a software issue? "