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[Dell Venue] jayjr1105:
The debacle for me is this is one of the very few 8" (android) tablets and its well under $200. Any other LG or Samsung 8" is close to $300 and I feel 7" is just too small after using this Dell, otherwise I would have bought a nexus 7. So it's either spend $100 more and have root almost instantly or buy this tablet, save a ton of cash and hope/pray for root eventually. Again I'm going to be patient with this one. It's still a nice pure android tablet.

Keep up the good work for those attempting to root.
[Dell Venue] 3dupunk:
My nexus is definitely to small for me now. Without a doubt the screen on my nexus looks better but my venue 8, that inch makes a Hell of a difference!
[Dell Venue] arclight25:
I agree. I wish I was smart enough to help the process, but I am not, just a tinkerer and that is about it. All I can do is cheer from the sidelines and wait the really smart people here to work their magic :)

Transformer TF701t / XDA Premium HD
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Finally jailbreak for 7xxx was out this morning. iPad mini jailbroken. Xbmc installed. I love Xbmc. With dell Venue 8 xbmc has problem with it. 4.2.2 worked great. Then 4.3 problem.
[Dell Venue] N2PC Tech:
Wanted to know if the enabling developer option would have been a problem. You have to click build version seven times to enable it!
[Dell Venue] cellphone89:
For those experiencing problems with XBMC (green screen) all you have to do is go to

System>Video>Playback> uncheck "allow hardware acelleration (Media Codec)"

*make sure you select advance settings level*

Solution explained at the xbmc forums.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank those working on the root. best of luck!

has anyone got news from the devs yet?
[Dell Venue] deltatux:
That's default behaviour since Android 4.2. Not a problem at all.

deltatux
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Yeah I had to reset factory in order for it to work. Its all good!!

Can't believe no one succeed rooting this device!!! Must be a new record!!

Merry Christmas to you all!
[Dell Venue] darklordofthesith:
I bought the dell venue 7 for my son for Christmas and am trying to get the 4.3 update. No dice. I have the venue 8 and received it. Was that update pushed to the 7 also? Or just the 8? Any info would be appreciated.
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Anyone uses HBOGo on this venue 8. I keep getting could not play comtents. I emailed support they keep saying uninstall app, reboot and update the latest and reinstall app. Still no go!!
[Dell Venue] phlyphish:
Yes. The 4.3 update is available for the Venue 7. I got it a few days ago. Don't know if it was just timing or what but I had to have it check for updates, then it became available.
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
I own a Venue 8 and i'm still waiting for my 4.3 update. Maybe they don't release for all of us at the same time... Update comes by batch! Must be same thing for your Venue 7
[Dell Venue] castnorth:
I just logged in to HBOGO and got all the way to the video opening screen before the "connecting" link changed to cannot connect. I also went into settings and allowed 3g connect just in case but still no go. So I logged out and tried to watch a video preview open to all and the video still wouldn't show. Seems like a good topic to bring over to the Dell forums. Edit. Running 4.3

Sent from my Venue 8 3830
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Same here. It sucks!
[Dell Venue] stang48317:
Still no 4.3 update being pushed to my Venue 7...
[Dell Venue] detechto:
Same for me, but I know someone who has gotten the 4.3 update pushed to their Venue 7, so it's almost certainly just a matter of time for us.

The Venue 7/8 is an attempt by Dell at getting back into the Android tablet market, after failing with the Streak. They are most likely rolling it out slowly, because if there are any major bugs, they don't want it affecting everyone who has gotten a Venue. They want to be able to fix the bugs before most people even get the update.

This is all speculation, of course.

Edit: My apologies, I thought this was the update thread. I'll pay closer attention in the future.
[Dell Venue] deansouth8:
Is this the root thread or the 4.3 update thread?

The Chinese root method "VRoot" appears to install a superuser app in /system/app/Superuser.apk. Do not do this! I do not have root access. This did NOT work. This will not work for you. I should not have done this. :)

I also noticed a busybox located somewhere like /Dev/tmp/ sorry I don't remember. Was when I was foolin around with adb. I also don't know if that was part of any normal rooting process, the folder it was in was locked down pretty tight but busybox file allowed full r/w access.

I find this a point of interest. I am very curious how this Superuser.apk was installed to that location. If the apk was installed as a system app like that there is bound to be something to it. I can't read the vroot scripts or find a detailed log I can't tell what they got going on there. Could just a something dumb or easy if we find an error or uncover the method. I'm even more curious how to remove the apk.

It also installed some Google Chinese input that also survives wipes.

Any advice on on getting rid of the apk would be HOT! Its surviving the factory wipes in settings and can't delete. I also don't see any lower level way of wiping the tablet. I have somewhat limited experience but get by.

Hope my experience helps the cause and gives hope. Wish there were a more organized place for the threads on the specific Venue.

Sent from my Venue 8 3830
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Anyone wants to buy my dell venue 8 its only a month old. Not use much becuz of no root available. :)
[Dell Venue] hellios1:
Thats interesting. If you have superuser.apk and busybox injected you need only su binary to get root acces. Or maybe you have it but in wrong place or with wrong properties. Try to search su in system folder, probably in system/xbin.

About removing superuser.apk. Maybe im wrong but without root you can remove it only with flashing official rom with system partition format. Factory reset das not affect system partition.
[Dell Venue] xdajunkman:
This is interesting...Are you on 4.3, or still on 4.2.2? If you have stuff inserted into the /system partition, then the rooting program did gain elevated privileges at some point to get it there. Check for the su binary as described above, and let us know. This might be a general root method that will work on our device, but they are putting the binary in the wrong spot. Perhaps someone will figure out the exploit that this program uses and be able to put out a more open source solution than this program. There are some concerns that this method installs other, unwanted stuff on your device that tries to access a Chinese server for unknown reasons.
[Dell Venue] deansouth8:
Thanks. I'll keep tinkering. Hard to deal with between the wife and baby. Really wish I could see the vroot script.

The xda android app seems incomplete on this device. I can only view the last page. Sorry if I offended anyone. It keeps crashing if I look at previous pages but not sure. Never used the app before.
[Dell Venue] darklordofthesith:
I have the 4.3 update on my venue 8, but my son's venue 7 does not. I keep checking, but nothing is being pushed. Kind of strange.
[HTC One X] alper.s:
Here is a kitkat theme for APEX Launcher

download Version 1.0
[HTC One X] DiluTe:
Does it work for Nova or could you make the theme work for Nova?
[HTC One X] alper.s:
Icons and wallpaper work with nova

Sent via HTC One X!
[HTC One X] DiluTe:
Great! Gonna try it, looks great, thnx!
[HTC One X] Gunman84:
Oh finally a kikat theme with real kitkat icons, unlike the other themes on Play store. Thanks :)
[HTC One X] alper.s:
Grab the new update from the store

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.szp.kitkat

Sent via HTC One X!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
Interesting read about the HTC One.

http://www.colbybrownphotography.com/gear-review-a-photographers-take-on-the-htc-one/
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Dark Jedi:
He talks about it takes great low light pictures but he doesbt show one lol
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] dottat:
This camera works so much better in the newer jb4.3 sense roms. I can finally take a close up. So much of the magic of this camera is what the software does with it.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
I agree. It seems much better.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Morpheus991:
Thanks for the read, as a photographer I'm still on the fence after reading it though. I already knew all about the sensors etc. If they had just found a way to maybe use a larger lens and squeeze in a 6 or 8mp sensor I'd have gotten the One a long time ago.

And just to help contribute to some digital photography knowledge: a 6mp camera translates into about an 8x10 print without having any loss in photo quality.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Zwitterion:
As a photographer, I'm surprised that a phone camera would be a breaking point for your purchase. There is currently no phone on the market that is of enough quality to reliably provide pictures for anything other than social media and email transfer.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Morpheus991:
Well I wouldn't use my phone camera for a job, I'm not saying that all. Maybe it's more the perfectionist in me than the photographer? I've been pretty happy with my Rezounds macro capability and I like having a little wiggle room for cropping. I'm not sure if I can upload a full res example, but maybe that's for the best. It might be seen as bragging or potentially argumentative and that's not my intention. It's also the lack of microSD memory card, and non-removable battery stuff, you know. I'm probably getting one pretty soon anyway though. My phone has started acting up. I'm just one of those people, indecisive and hesitant for the most part (nothing to be proud of).
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] josh995:
I use a high end DSLR for most pictures I take, but when I want a quick picture of something, I don't find the HTC One camera experience enjoyable at all. I don't enjoy the process of using the camera, and I generally don't enjoy the end result.

Maybe I'm just spoiled because I have an amazing DSLR, but personally, I have found the camera to be the weakest part of the HTC One.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
Out of curiosity, what do you find unenjoyable about the experience of using the camera?

I think it's safe to say that many of us use DSLR's for our most important pictures and I doubt anyone expects the camera of the phone to be either a replacement for a DSLR or nearly as good. I use my One mostly for pics and videos of my kids when it's the only camera I have on me. As long as the pics are clear and natural looking, I'm pretty happy. The most disappointing aspect of the camera to me is actually the camcorder. I agree the camera is the weakest aspect of the HTC One, but with such a great device otherwise, this doesn't mean I think the camera is bad by any means.

On another note, I'm surprised by the users who have said 4.3 has offered no improvement in camera performance. My pictures look much better since updating.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] josh995:
I agree with using the One when it's the only camera I have, same here. However, I don't know what it is, but I just find myself not even bothering taking pictures with my phone anymore since I've gotten the one. I was using an iPhone 5 for almost a year before the One (alongside a GS3), and I wouldn't hesitate to whip out my phone and take a quick picture. But since I've gotten the One, a lot of times I think "Hey! I should take a picture!" then I just... don't feel like it. I can't pinpoint it exactly. I take probably 1/10th the amount of pictures with my phone than I used to. And I LOVE photography.

I feel that such an amazing phone should have an equally amazing camera, but for me, it leaves something to be desired. :(
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
This is a really interesting point and I think I somewhat agree. While owning an iPhone 4s, I snapped pictures all the time. Many of these were of my newborn in good lighting so image quality was generally very good. When I decided to go back to Android, I decided camera quality, ease of camera use, and likelihood of camera use were all very important considerations. I bought the HTC One EVO on Sprint and right away realized the camera wouldn't cut it. The image quality and experience left me inclined to leave the phone in my pocket rather than catch a moment on camera. I returned it and bought a GS3, the camera on which I loved and used all the time, both confidently and happily. I switched to VZW and got the S4. Maybe I'm crazy, but the S4 camera left me disappointed more often than not and again I felt less inclined to take pictures. I sold it and bought the One. I don't use the camera as often as I used the S3, and I'm not sure why though many things are different now. Maybe most significant of those differences is the fact that my once newborn is now a very active toddler who is very difficult to capture on camera in general. However, and despite this, I generally don't have as much confidence/likelihood of use of the camera on the One as I did with the S3 and iP4s.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Morpheus991:
Not trying to hijack the thread, I just wanted to share my experience and a possible reason for the hesitance peopleare having with using their cameras.

So....I really really wanted to want the One. Stayed up watching YouTube reviews last night and finally thought "ok, I'm sold." I even went into a Verizon store today and messed with one for 30-40 min just to make sure...I wasn't feeling it, I wish I did. I think they tried to make the camera more user friendly and simplistic so the general public and iPhone users might be willing to give it a chance. I think it backfired. I kept thinking "Am I in video mode or photo..ok, zoe on/off got it. How do I...why can't I...where are my options? Is that all I can adjust?" I know there are 3rd party apps that are great and roms etc. I just feel like I'm able to do things on my stock Rezound without having to jump through so many hoops. I think the One's version of sense is more limiting than I prefer. I like my options. Some of you Mac users might understand what I mean: I have snow leopard and I refuse to use lion, mountain lion, or even the new free Mavericks.

I love the One's screen, form factor, the way the memory is basically just one partition (the Rezound has it split up into 3, it's very frustrating), speakers and how snappy and fast it is.

This is just my opinion, I hope it doesn't rub anyone the wrong way. I know how taboo it is to not like the newer sense versions, almost blasphemy! Don't chew my head off! ;) :thumbup:
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] andybones:
hey I think about how Sense 2.1 would run on the HTC One all the time, lol

Sense has changed in many ways for the better, and some for the worse.

Sense 5 is a great leap from 3.5/3.6 and 4.0+ IMHO, but I do miss 2.1

That was my favorite up until now. Sense 5.5 brings some amazing battery life.

I personally like.. NEVER use my camera, so to me a camera is the last thing I need working.

For someone with kids though, and wants to document things, or travels, I'd imagine it's the first thing on the list.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and yours is just that, yours.

What would you like to see? It won't do much of anything but I can make a new post on HTC Elevate about suggestions to change.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Morpheus991:
Oh cool, I actually just joined elevate about a week ago...I still haven't really taken the time to figure out how it works and what I can actually contribute but this seems like a whole other thread. Maybe you can pm me some tips if you get a chance, no pressure though. From what I've seen so far it doesn't seem like there's much to do on there but I haven't really looked into it to much. Thanks
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mjwford1:
Like 4.3 camera too

I honestly don't remember too much about the Sense 5.0 camera because shortly after I got my One I had it rooted and running CM 10.2. I run a used car lot so I'm constantly taking pictures of inventory for the various websites I post to. I have found the camera in HDR mode on CM to be fantastic. I had a 10MP regular 'point and shoot' camera that I retired because the photos from the One turn out so well. My guess is that people just have different expectations of what a CELL PHONE camera should produce. But if I was able to retire my regular camera, the One camera can't be that bad.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] zeropally:
One suggestion for those that want a better camera is camera awesome. Its only a few bucks and gives you control over iso shutter speed and the like. Takes photos as good as sense. No Zoe but still a great app
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ouch1976:
By far the best cell phone camera I have ever used.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jessbowring:
My s3 was best phone camera. My ONE is pink, so much pink :( and focus is hit or miss. I'm on the fence between waiting for an update or sending it back to htc to fix. I use to take pictures daily, now it's just a frustrating disappointment. :(
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
I'm getting my phone back from HTC today. I'll let you know the results later today.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jessbowring:
Great thanks!! I would post pics of my ones photos but don't know how to via mobile lol
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Sheldor1967:
So,how did it go?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] dogmaticvox:
I don't think I could go back to the CM style camera. Now that I've started using ZOE I feel it's a HUGE advantage if used right.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
Sorry, I forgot to respond. The purple/pink tinting is definitely completely gone. However, my pictures now look especially warm, almost as if they have a subtle yellow hue. Honestly, I've found the pics on my Note 2 are more pleasing overall and that is the phone I'm now using most of the time.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Sheldor1967:
Bummer...I find that particularly annoying. It would seem that HTC is not going to survive. They will linger and continue to put out phones, but getting the Camera exactly right on the One would have gone a long way towards saving them in their quest to compete with Apple and Sammy. If Apple comes out with a 4.7 inch phone, I may have to consider jumping over. My wifes 5S has an amazing camera...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] josh995:
Yup, I have to say I've been reaching for my fiances iPhone 5S when I want to take a picture. Which is all the time. I just find the pictures to come out better and I like the iPhone camera app better too. I can snap 1 quick pic with the 5S or I could take 10 pics with the One trying to get a good picture.

Real huge bummer. The One is such an awesome phone in every factor other than one of the most important...the camera.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
Yeah, it sucks. The pictures that come out good, come out great. I've never had so many people comment on the great quality of the good pics. Unfortunately those pics seem few and far between. The 5s camera is nice, but I'm really not fond of iOS, even on a five inch screen. If I were yo buy a phone purely for the camera, I'd likely get the Nokia 1020. I'm happy with my note 2 and after playing with the N3 I was impressed as well.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Sheldor1967:
Isn't Nokia a Windows phone? I would rather jailbreak an IPhone... The Shame is that I love HTC and I would prefer to stay with them. The One is a phenomenal phone, which makes the camera issues all that more glaring...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
It is, I liked windows phone when I used it a couple years ago, I'm sure it's only gotten better. Honestly WP or iOS, I'd rather carry a dedicated point and shoot than a phone I didn't want. Fortunately there are plenty of android phones with good cameras so I won't have to resort to that. I feel you about the One, the phone would be nearly perfect and by far the best on the market IMO if it had a top notch camera.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xbrianx619:
Love the camera on this phone. Ultrapixels! :D
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] undagullu:
I'm in love with the camera on this phone. I got quite a scare when i headed over to /r/htcone and all they could say was "purple tint, purple tint purple tint"
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Sheldor1967:
I have a good dslr, so I am not dependent on my One for every shot. But, as they say, the best camera is the one that you have with you...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Wittmeyer:
I love HTC and I would prefer to stay with them. The One is a phenomenal phone, which makes the camera issues all that more glaring...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
I too have a nice dslr but I don't take it with me everywhere I go. Even when at home if I want to capture something in the moment with one of my kids, I don't have time to go to another room to get the dslr because by the time I get back, the moment may have passed. My phone is always on me, so its important to have a good camera so in those quick moments, I can still capture a quality pic.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] josh995:
This. I love my dslr. But I don't have it on standby, ready to go 24/7. And like I mentioned a while back, I end up usually not even taking the picture with my One because I know I'm just going to be disappointed with the results. :-/
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mlin:
So, the yellow tinting may have been the screen in general and possibly a result of drying adhesive applied when reassembling the phone. I say that because now the pics look much better both on Sense and AOSP. I'm going to switch back to my One for awhile to see if my general impression has changed when using the device and camera regularly.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] akguthal:
Good read. Thanks for sharing!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jessbowring:
I'm a bit nervous about having my baby torn apart, but gonna send my phone out to get repaired. Maybe I'll have it back in time for decent holiday pictures!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] aer0zer0:
I just downloaded an app called camera fv-5 it is an amazing, ING camera app, more options than stock, and I find it a lot better than stock, except no zone but I can live. Highly recommended over the stock camera
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] bschram:
This is a picture of a gray background in low light. I get this streaking and purple in anything with less than ideal light. Anyone know if this can be fixed, or if it is a defect in the phone?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] wireroid:
This is literally common sense... if you see something like that happening with your camera, you should know to send it to HTC for repair.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] bschram:
Unfortunately, it was purchased on eBay. Guess I'll have to try to get a receipt or something so I can try to send it in. Thanks
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
HTC One has been out only a few months on Verizon. They should warranty repair it no problem.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Morpheus991:
This isn't full resolution, but still, you get the point. Same photo cropped with amazing detail...I'm waiting for the next round of HTC phones (shot with my Rezound's stock app just for comparing it with my dad's iPhone out of curiosity).
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ivanov13:
I thought going from Rezound to One would be upgrade (talking about camera only), but I was WRONG! Rezound has much better camera! I'm not even talking about HDR photos on the Rezound. HTC one's camera is just garbage!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sockaplaya14:
I don't think the One's camera is at all bad...but I was expecting it to be better. Only low-light lived up to they hype I read, and I really like the wider angle. But most of us spent a few hundred on this phone, I don't think it would have changed the price much for a little better camera. Then it would stand alone above the rest
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Dark Jedi:
Always found the one camera being better then on my rezound. Sure the low light issue is aggervating but I hardly take low light pics. Sure we could use a better camera but what they have so far is quite good. Plus I have a dslr camera for when I want those nice shots so I guess it's not much of an issue with me on camera phones.

It comes doan to personal preference.