yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fascinate Android Development] AaronCompNetSys:
Now we may find out the real world benefits of Google's "low memory optimizations". Combined with ART some day, the Fassy might have a third wind.

Thanks Unjust!
[Fascinate Android Development] BDogg718:
This wont be the only 4.4 fassy ROM hopefully....;)
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Yes that is true. :) but for now it is lol. But vanir is coming soon. This will be considered stable when sdcard works because it is preventing camera , gallery , and google apps from working . Other than that it's stable and smooth other than the browsers graphical glitches and data which we know isn't working again just like 4.3
[Fascinate Android Development] awskier08:
would be fun to see what it could do
[Fascinate Android Development] jkok:
oh! for 4.3 lol thats a different dtory, i thought u meant this rom :P to do that ui need to view activities, the easier way to do that is with an app i use called quickshortcutmaker https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sika524.android.quickshortcut

or if u used Xposed framework and XBlast u can use the new Gestures (unless u have a rom that has it like Dirty unicorns latest 4.3 rom), without needing the app mentioned above,

and u can set an activities shortcut (using either of them) to

advanced settings>Display settings

=)
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
It was there though the path to control backlight is incorrect as well as the option to disable them

Depends on the rom. I can't change it back as I will have official support soon
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
Glad to see that Rom Konverter works for 4.4. Thank you guys for all of your hard work
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
i did mean for this ROM lol .. my most recent OS was 4.3, i'm running official 4.2.2 cm10.1 right now

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yesssssss i told you you should be the cm maintainer for this thing... sounds like you are going to be lol
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Jt isn't on cm team anymore Idk what happened. I am waiting on the guy to email me back.

A user emailed him

http://i.imgur.com/yUnuDil.png

Hope he doesn't mind me sharing . :)

I talked to this guy before and that's when he told me jt was doing 4.3 and jt did. Now I guess jt is done I can move in.
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
jt never really did 4.3.. i know he did a bringup on github (i wasn't sure what half of the code meant lol) but i never saw an official cm10.2 build on the servers. i even looked through jenkins and nope, nothing.

and he was working on the samsung galaxy express last i saw his activity here...

he's still listed as the device maintainer on the wiki, but there hasn't been any builds

but who's Jef Oliver? is he jt?
[Fascinate Android Development] scelera:
Yessir.. Is there a zip to flash?
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Lol , he is cm maintainer and developer recruiter I think. I have talked to him before though. Jt did do 4.3 he didn't add it to nightlies though.

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_fascinatemtd/commits/cm-10.2

Still I had 4.3 with the exact same stuff. The trick is aries-common uses the exact same things. Just we have one sdcard and we aren't gsm that's about it. I use my own source because I like to add different things that cm wouldn't allow.
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
No , I will just build the complete rom. A zip would be easier. I don't have good manual skills
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
just shot jt an email...

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i know that this is old drama, but you guys might want to look at this: http://www.landofdroid.com/2013/more-on-whats-going-on-at-cyanogenmod/

some guy wrote an article about the licensing inconsistencies, resistance to patch issues with certain devices and tagging them as "stable," etc. and then cyanogen responded to him with such eloquent swear words and accusing the guy of "stalking" him...

and entropy got really pissed a few months back: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45199969&postcount=1046

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45202776&postcount=1048

i'm not really sure what side to pick on, but all of this is pretty ridiculous imo.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkok:
lol i saw that when it was first posted, and now reading it again today, there were words added/changed in the reply emails XD, there wasnt THAT MANY cursing in the replies first posted on that page lol, remember HTML can be changed, without proper email logs(from email providers, and/or legit cached copies), u never know if that was the full conversation, or even what was said lol, im not picking sides either since i dont know the full conversation, but those email conversation "snippets", were more one sided if u read it through, one is more professional to benefit the sender, as the replier made it look like "a modern caveman" so to speak, u cant always judge it by what u see, and clearly from the XDA posts u shared that person saw what was on that webpage and reacted as-that of what was seen on-the-scene, not "in-the-real" as u could put it, cause ive met on a vacation some people at a make-shift dev-con and acually met some people from cyanogenmod from when it was still CM7-beta they even made a makeshift port for my old lg-vortex =), sure time may have changed, but u still cant pick sides and/or as the more commonly known as "dont believe everything u see on the internet", cause remember if its not recorded as un-edited (or recorded-raw) as video/audio or some sort of legit-cached-copy or original feed, its hard to say whats true, and whats not =S, like all the photos u see on images.google.com or even ~90% of models pictures u see on modeling websites+ads, some things get biased, some are real, some are just misunderstood-and-reinterpereted; but i can see what people would get mad over tbh lol
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
true, but tl;dr. also, nice skepticism. you're right, but... you're still a skeptic :p

oh you had that phone too, eh?

that thing was a hellhole.. and no dev support either, cm7 and the unofficial cm9 were buggy as hell on my phone
[Fascinate Android Development] jkok:
XD that dev that put the CM7 on mine was like 3 months before the other DEV made it for it on that site, mine worked perfectly, all-sensors lol

im not trying to brag dont get me wrong, but i sent that guy who was developing CM7 on that site the zip he used on mine, and a system.img i pulled and still hasnt implemented ANY of it, since its "not from source" XD so users could have had fully working CM7 if hes just use the zip i gave him lol as for CM9, i personally didnt like it, i used AOKP, and used some of the .so lib files from my CM7 to fix the sensors, i know thats risky, but somehow it worked :S, i dont have the phoen or zip anymore so it cant help much now XD
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
my phone went in the pool... i was running the LightningC rom at the time
[Fascinate Android Development] Lgrootnoob:
[MENTION=4911249]Unjustified Dev[/MENTION]

Would this work on the mesmerize or do I need to use rom konverter or something?
[Fascinate Android Development] Payton95:
Yes, Use Rom Konverter
[Fascinate Android Development] Lgrootnoob:
Sorry for taking up your time but I have another question: :D

I'm guessing that this also uses the mtd partition layout?
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Every rom but stock used mtd partition.
[Fascinate Android Development] swapnilss:
I'm running the 12/6 build since yesterday and have noticed that it takes some 3-5 seconds for the display to come up whenever I receive a call. I've set the phone to 200-1200 interactive. Also the browser fc's sometimes. Other than that it's pretty much stable.
[Fascinate Android Development] ObeyTheNoob:
I also noticed the delay for the incoming call to display. Other thn that for me its pretty much stable :)
[Fascinate Android Development] kb8no:
Same here. Starting my 4th day on this 12/06 ROM. Had one data drop fixed with airplane trick. This is better than any 4.3 ROM.
[Fascinate Android Development] ObeyTheNoob:
Agreed! :thumbup:
[Fascinate Android Development] hhp_211:
I can try to help with that udev, just get w/me in hangouts. We'll try to get these guys an update zip
[Fascinate Android Development] kb8no:
I know we have only had a fully functional 4.4 for 4 days and I know I am a dreamer and I love you guys, but any way to get fast charge injected into the kernel? Fast charge is the first enhancement I want after a ROM is stable.
[Fascinate Android Development] hutchjim:
hi

i was wondering if you could get the browser to work a little better it doesnt focus very good thanks for all you guys have done very good
[Fascinate Android Development] ChannerT:
Try dolphin mini, works like a charm
[Fascinate Android Development] AaronCompNetSys:
Agreed. Dolphin is the only browser that I think is lightweight enough for the Fassy. I also use Opera Mini, it offloads some of the RAM and CPU requirements to their servers.

I replace as many apps as possible on the Fassy with lightweight counterparts, such as Gallery replaced with QuickPic and Miui Camera. Any process that keeps an active task running gets Greenified/Disabled/Uninstalled or replaced with one that properly exits and goes into "cached" status. Use Tasker or Xposed mods to replace as many functions as possible that you would normally run an app for.
[Fascinate Android Development] scelera:
Personally I go for performance and have found UC Browser to be above all of them. I like the fact that I can turn off the rich content and load just the html. They call it speed mode or something like that and of course some websites get really ugly, but overall I do most of my browsing in speed mode cause it's just so quick.
[Fascinate Android Development] lightningdude:
I was using UC Browser, but since I made the jump to CM11, websites wouldn't show up right. The home screen worked fine, but when I went to load up a page, I didn't actually get a page, just the background image. Have you used it successfully on CM11?
[Fascinate Android Development] razredge:
The 4.4 kernel zip link doesn't work for me. Does anyone have an alt link?
[Fascinate Android Development] kb8no:
Try the link again. Works here.

I'm getting regular data drops. A few a day. No way to know other than data not working. Airplane mode trick always fixes it but annoying.
[Fascinate Android Development] razredge:
Ok sorry it works. It was Malwarebytes making the site look down.
[Fascinate Android Development] hutchjim:
hi

i have noticed that my text goes to people twice and one of them are all fd up and dont make any sence they say.....i wish udev could put the data fix in cyanogenmod source so it would be easieer for people like me to clone and compile my own rom.i have tried to cherry pick checkout everything i think i just dont know how to do...i just wish that you could thank you..........
[Fascinate Android Development] kb8no:
No having that problem. Using Hangouts though.
[Fascinate Android Development] swapnilss:
Me neither.. I'm using stock messaging app not hangout. Has anyone tried out latest pa ROM. How is it? I'm waiting for omni rom though. Till then I'm happy with cm11.
[Fascinate Android Development] kb8no:
No, no. I'm using hangouts. It works fine. I can't say how the native messaging app works but you say it screws up so try hangouts.
[Fascinate Android Development] jkok:
PA atm has less features of CM11 and nothing of the official PA feature list of the 4.2.2 version since its fairly new to 4.4.* family line, the only noticable things are data is fixed (thanks to [MENTION=4911249]Unjustified Dev[/MENTION] 's patch they used) =), and their kernel, but it doesnt have hybrid, halo, or any PA-Known features (yet) but their lightbulb(torch) app, but it has the following things that CM11 doenst have atm from latest CM11 build released:

-App Ops settings shortcut in settings menu

-immerse settings(checkbox option) in original KK 4.4.* location (unless CM11's expanded desktop option takes over it, then thats different of course)

-some(not all) of the original Galaxy S advanced settings still in its APK, and not spread around the roms's settings.

-of course PA's Lightbulb app, kernel, (some)code snippets, etc

-stock 4.4 calculator (not Cyanogenmods (better) calculator)

and maybee more that i havent noticed anyways, but it is still fairly new for 4.4.* family so there will be more added features as time comes, but i am also waiting for the omni rom, sounds good if it gets fully up+running (and everything works), and maybee untill something new comes along it could be unjustified dev's main project (im just thinking-in-text here, but the Omni-rom project can be really usefull for ALL users, as it mixes stuff from literally ALL customs roms that have been submitted, from CM, PA, AOKP, (some also from mixed viarities like P-A-C Man, i doubt little-if-any MIUI, but ive seen some gerrit from other roms i havent heard of (at least from devices i use anyways), so it might be the future overall android custom rom, we might never know untill it happens, or something better comes :P
[Fascinate Android Development] ztotherad:
okay guys, I'm back on my fassy for the time being. lost my note 2 unfortunately. so boys, catch me up on the amazing work UDev and BDog has done lately
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
this seems fine. PA 4.4 is out too if you're interested, but at the moment it's not PA, it seems like a pure AOSP ROM due to 4.4's new stuff breaking hybrid mode, etc.

i've been too busy to flash anything and i'm still running cm10.1 lol
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
4.4.2 is coming soon, please hold :) thank bdogg for compiling for me.
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
I keep getting a pop up at the bottom of my screen all day that says "no APN specified on the device". Sometimes it happens after I take a picture, sometimes it happens an hour after I flash this ROM and sometimes it happens 3 days after I flash this ROM. Any help is appreciated. MMS,SMS are working fine
[Fascinate Android Development] hhp_211:
Yep i figured i'd give pa a run too,,, I have not yet tried this cm11,,, pa is plain right now but very fast,,,

I've installed xposed and gravitybox plus a few others... That has enabled a bunch of the missing features ... I'll see how it goes over the next day or so.

I will say stock keyboard has no swipe functions available.

I still love kii keyboard.

Then i hope to put new cm 4.4.2 on :D
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
On me and bdogg unreleased build we have devil. Cleaned up device things. It runs faster. Also swype works. I added lib to device tree . it copies to lib on build. It could be faster but we all want the clear ui. Setting ro.config.lowram to true should speed it up. Status bar will be black and no OK Google
[Fascinate Android Development] ztotherad:
ooo. I can't wait to run pure kit kat aosp. I'm just a slight excited lol. Thanks btw.
[Fascinate Android Development] scelera:
I actually haven't yet. Haven't had a need for the browser yet. I'll try it out and get back to you.

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I've been using the stock messaging app cause I couldn't get hangouts to send MMS. Stock one works as expected, nothing fancy but functional.

On another note, I think the whole post about messaging sending 2 txts was supposed to be a haha funny..... [MENTION=4786088]hutchjim[/MENTION] said "sence they say.....i wish udev could put the data fix in cyanogenmod source...." and so on. Trying to poke [MENTION=4911249]Unjustified Dev[/MENTION] about syncing his data fix so other people can make use of it (and give credit where credit is due of course).
[Fascinate Android Development] hutchjim:
hi

well of course i would give him credit if i was going to build it for other peeps.im not i just like to compile my own rom for personal use lol i didnt mean anything...lol
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
I don't really care about transparency as much as speed.. Do what you want but I want speed more than the pretty transparency stuff
[Fascinate Android Development] scelera:
+1
[Fascinate Android Development] lightningdude:
If I understood correctly, the choice is up to each user. That is, if you make ro.config.lowram=true in the build.prop, it'll be faster, with black status bar and no hotword detection at home screen. If you make ro.config.lowram=false, or leave it the same as is suggested by the previous post, it'll still have the transparency and OK Google. Correct [MENTION=4911249]Unjustified Dev[/MENTION]?
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Yes , personally I am leaving it as is because I like it and some people like this feature. I will make a zip to to change the build.prop for those who don't want to do it manually. just go to terminal and type su then setprop ro.config.lowram=true should work
[Fascinate Android Development] ObeyTheNoob:
Just did it, it worked:thumbup:

What if i wanted to go back to default/normal ?
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
same thing just put =false
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
Any advice on this issue?
[Fascinate Android Development] Shipyaad:
Can't reach Google etc

UD,

First off, this ROM is unbelievable - way better than the old CM 10 nightly I was using

Second, I'm occasionally getting a "Cannot reach Google" message when I'm messing around with voice search. My signal bars are white, I'm only getting the orange signal bars in the pull-down menu occasionally. Sometimes I can reach the google servers, sometimes not, it seems random. Going in an out of Airplane mode doesn't seem to do the trick; deleting my Google account and clearing data/cache/dalvik and reinstalling didn't seem to change it either - the connection to Google is really sporadic even though I'm on a good 3g connection. Doesn't particularly matter for me since I'm used to typing in whatever it is i'm looking for, but I thought you might like to know.

Thanks for your work on this thing, I can't believe I'm running Android 4.4/CM11 on my old Fassy!
[Fascinate Android Development] hhp_211:
in the same related information from THIS PAGE

I'm curious to know if anyone can shed some light on this subject below

jit code cache size

google has not been much help at all, nor has an xda search

In readong this it sounds like it might be feasible to test settings like

600,000; 700,000; 800,000

I kust not sure if you would express it in the literal form

dalvik.vm.jit.codecachesize=600000

or a shortened form

dalvik.vm.jit.codecachesize=600

I tried with the 1st setting lastnight, but I was also fooling with other settings and got into an unrecoverable bootloop :o

so till I get some more time I thought I'd ask you guys

Quote::

Disable JIT

System-wide JIT memory usage is dependent on the number of applications running and the code footprint of those applications. The JIT establishes a maximum translated code cache size and touches the pages within it as needed. JIT costs somewhere between 3M and 6M across a typical running system.

The large apps tend to max out the code cache fairly quickly (which by default has been 1M). On average, JIT cache usage runs somewhere between 100K and 200K bytes per app. Reducing the max size of the cache can help somewhat with memory usage, but if set too low will send the JIT into a thrashing mode. For the really low-memory devices, we recommend the JIT be disabled entirely.

This can be achieved by adding the following line to the product makefile:

PRODUCT_PROPERTY_OVERRIDES += dalvik.vm.jit.codecachesize=0

End Quote::
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
we already disable it way before 4.4 .
[Fascinate Android Development] wws12:
Hey Unjustifed, great work first of all!

Secondly, any news on that new build with 4.4.2, speed improvements, etc? I'm getting a relative this phone for Christmas and want her to have the best 4.4/KitKat experience possible. Not rushing you by any means, just wanted an update on the current status of the build.

Thanks,

wws12
[Fascinate Android Development] hhp_211:
Total stab in the dark... Have you checked and set this ?

Wireless and networks,,, more,,, mobile networks,,, preferred network type = 3G
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
Yea, thats the first thing I tried. I wonder if it has something to do with rom konverter
[Fascinate Android Development] scelera:
Oh I wasn't saying that you weren't going to. That just seems to be a big thing around here (I mean XDA in general) is the overall need for constant reminders that these devs put a ton of work into these Roms and it's awesome that they are willing to share their successes with others and that we should thank them every chance we get.

I was more trying to point out the fact that there indeed wasn't anything wrong with your messaging app and it was meant to be funny. I know I laughed.

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Yup, didn't work for me. I set it using the steps above, even did a reboot. Still had transparency and the key word detection running.
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
yeah i have the same issue

maybe the command doesn't work in PA idk
[Fascinate Android Development] ocs111:
Cspire

I have Cspire; I have attempted to load on my Cspire Showcase. I keep getting an error message "cannot access system & cannot access data". Now I have the newer recovery so I cannot reload previous rom, basically I am stuck.

Any guideance would be greatly appreciated.

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What was the fix, I cannot get KK to load; I have flashed kernel and get to twrp. Cannot flash rom, now I am stuck at twrp recovery.
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
Have you tried flashing CWM while in TWRP? I had this same problem before. I keep getting an APN error on my Showcase and wanted to go back to JB. I was basically stuck in TWRP and had to odin to stock and reflash to get back to JB. I tried to put CWM for CM7 on my phone with odin and when I booted back into recovery, CWM couldn't mount anything. The only thing I didn't try was flashing CWM while in TWRP
[Fascinate Android Development] ocs111:
Thanks for the reply, how did you end up getting it loaded on yours?? I am assuming you are using showcase..
[Fascinate Android Development] ztotherad:
i second this! im running THS 14 (ics) just because i cant get kk or 4.3 running without getting these errors as the person i quoted
[Fascinate Android Development] guyincog:
It should be ro.config.low_ram=true (or false)

Reference: http://source.android.com/devices/low-ram.html
[Fascinate Android Development] Unjustified Dev:
Odin to stock. Flash cwm4 fix for cm7 then install a 4.2 ROM. Then flash the kernel from op. Then wipe .... Flash 4.4.
[Fascinate Android Development] J:
I was running into same issues. Odin back, cwm fix, a 4.2 ROM, kernel, wipe everything and flash 4.4. Worked for me.
[Fascinate Android Development] ocs111:
Thanks, I went through those steps. I was able to flash the rom; when I tried to flash the gapps I received an error. RIght now I rebooted and the cyanogenmod arrow is going around. I think I am getting close!
[Fascinate Android Development] ztotherad:
dammit, really? Now I need to go download a 4.2 rom, lol. Thanks bro! Greatly appreciated!
[Fascinate Android Development] skepticmisfit:
i recommend using cm10.1 for this process because... why not

also it seems to do everything automatically from the blue CWM so that's why i like it

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i posted this in the PA thread but figured i should mention it here:

that last part may vary on this ROM, so take the "not breaking GEL" part with a grain of salt
[Fascinate Android Development] Sippi4x4man:
Is there a way to enable low ram without taking the transparency away?