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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Teleopta:
Hello All,

Something is wrong with kingo i try to root my sm-n9005 mj7 and during the process it looks like the kingo

try to install some programs named MTKcamera and

Diaggetroot on my phone and my phone block the instalation and react like an antivirus rejecting the instalation

and i dont have on my phone any aplication like antivirus and in the end kingo shows instalation faild WHAT CAN I DO :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mjh68:
Those are the files kingo uses to root your phone. If you don't accept them it will fail. You must not be accepting them and it times out or something.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Teleopta:
i accept all and still fail
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LeftyGR:
Can you provide more information? at what point does it fail?

♢NoteIII♢
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bizack:
One thing that you

HAVE

to make sure for this to work is that you do not have anything in your administrators that could be blocking Kingo from access it need to your device.

Go into Security > Device Administrators > and uncheck/remove/delete/destroy anything that is in there (for the time being)

Once you achieve root then you can go back and reapply permissions for whatever app that seems appropriate for it's usage.

I had this issue rooting a friends phone and he had Knox all up with administrator rights.

Give it a shot and report back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Diocat:
One thing that sends up red flags for me here is that you state that you have a SM-N9005. You have to understand that most of us on this forum have the SM-N900V and the MJ7 it ran on was version VRUBMJ7. There are certain builds of MJ7 that are not Kingo rootable and Kingo knows this. I'm sure there are a few versions of MJ7 that Kingo cannot root, but the one that is asked about a lot (even mistakenly on this forum once) is version XXUDMJ7.

You may want to check your MJ7 version and then check the compatibility list to see if your version is supported or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JiMiHenDriX420:
Thank you for this. Clears up some reservations I had.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Are moderators here now satisfied kingo no longer takes inappropriate info from phones rooted by them? If so why are links still blocked. I would love an answer from a moderator if not too much trouble. Thanks! I don't want my phone cloned somewhere.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LeftyGR:
I think the problem is that it's not open sourced yet.

♢NoteIII♢
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MadFlava:
I didnt think that was a requirement to post here. Theres a lot of stuff that isnt open source thats allowed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
Kingo has responded to our inquiry and state they have removed the IMEI collection during the rooting process. Our security expert has not had a chance to confirm this but Kingo has so far been very open to XDA inquiries. This info was just received this morning so at this time links will be allowed. Thank you all for your patience. If anyone finds otherwise please let a moderator know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
That's great! As long as your security expert is going to check anyway I'll wait until he checks just to be safe. The best part is now I assume there can be help threads as well as links in case something goes wrong or people just have questions. I thought I had lost my chance to root safely since I've accepted the MJE update.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xhunter187:
So for those that are running MJ7 on Verizon, any issues? Most importantly, does it gain us root without tripping Knox?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Kingo works on all vzw software versions without tripping knox.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
I can't wait to hear back from xda website expert exactly what date is still going to kingo when we use their app

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
Thread cleaned

Please keep this thread on topic

Posts just to incite drama are not appropriate on this development website

Take it to social sites

[MENTION=4229988]recDNA[/MENTION] Currently the person who looked at Kingo originally is unavailable with family issues. We are confident enough that Kingo has been forthcoming with every question and request we have made.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
I wasn't trying to churn up drama. I was serious when I said I was waiting until process had been checked before doing it myself. I understand now it won't be checked. Thank you for that information. I just wanted to wait until safety was verified. Thank you for letting me no that will no longer be possible.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asrah:
Well, i hope you realize that the VZW Note 3 is factory unlocked for USA domestic and international GSM usage. This was confirmed by two different tech VZW tech support personnel, as well as various forum posts (on various forums of course) confirming that non VZW sim cards work without the usage of any sort of unlock codes.

You were told a rather blatant bit of misinformation. There is absolutely no need to unlock the VZW Note 3, under any circumstances or for any type of usage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Harleydroid:
He was referring to the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LeftyGR:
This thread has nothing to do with sim unlock. This is all about the kingo workaround for our locked bootloader. And the post you are referring to is about kingo trying to support our devices back in November when the new firmware update came out. I do appreciate your attempt to clarify for us, just letting you know that you may have misunderstood what's being covered.

♢NoteIII♢
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asrah:
I see. Well, i cannot connect to the Kingo site because its being DDOS'd. I will ask a friend of mine if he has had any troubles after using Kingo. I dont think they meant any harm perse, but they do need to work on their PR.

Thank you for clearing up my misunderstanding. I wasnt trying to be condescending to them, just trying to look out for other consumers.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Zhuge_Liang:
Rooted, easy peasy. It was quite astonishing how simple it was compared to rooting my old phone. I suppose just to pacify my paranoia, I reinstalled SuperSU from Play, but whatever. Again, rooting is essentially exploiting a security hole to begin with. Custom ROMs will have to wait, but for now I thoroughly enjoyed freezing 30 utterly useless apps including Knox.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
When you say custom roms will have to wait: Are you referring to you are not ready to flash custom roms or that there is not the ability to flash custom roms for the N3? If the latter is what you are talking about you can flash custom roms using safestrap. Check the link in my SIG for all the info for safestrap and flashing custom roms. If I misunderstood your post, accept my apology.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sonkameja:
any update on xda expert actually inspecting the code because As badly as I want root , I don't want to risk any important data such as credit cards and bank info falling into the hands of some idiot in china ....

many thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Deekayy:
So if it was a American individual that developed the app and people found it malicious, would you now call that person stupid American? Or would you rather feel more at ease if it was a American developer that created this root app? Anyways, I do understand that you and many other people here are still skeptical about how this kingo app works because of the process it goes through to root the phone. I myself have taken the plunge to use the app and it was very easy. Your device, your choice, and you can only blame yourself if something bad does happen in terms of security breach of information. Thus, I'll blame myself if that ever happens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
People please do your research. If you head over to the Verizon N3 threads you will see that all of us used kingo to re root after the MJE update without any issues. It's maddening to see everyone talk about their info being stolen. Has it actually happened to anyone? Besides root de la Vega and vroot, this is our only other option. Even if someone in China created it, just install the US version of SU.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NinjaPerv:
To those still uncomfortable with the Kingo root method....I recently updated my note 3 to the stock mje update so I could flash the latest versions of hyperdrive and beans roms since they r now based on mje. I intended to use kingo to re root my phone but was unable to do so since I use my phones hot spot feature to get online. Kingo requires an Internet connection to complete the root process so that method was not an option for me. I successfully used VROOT to root my phone and had no problems doing so and the program does not require an Internet connection. The program is in Chinese but it's a one click deal and it's pretty obvious from the main screen what you need to click. The only other thing worth mentioning about vroot is that it installs a superuser app that I'm not familiar with. That was easily fixed though by just installing supersu and deleting the one that vroot installs. Other than that the process went without a hitch. One thing to note though....u have to keep an eye on ur phone's screen during the process as u will get 1 or 2 prompts that require u to tap "ok" before u can proceed any further. Anyways just thought I'd share this with everyone since there appear to be many still not comfortable with kingo and again, vroot DOES WORK with the latest mje update. If this info is already known by everyone then I apologize and just ignore me. If anyone needs the program just reply and I'll upload it to Dropbox and share the link. Peace out my ninjas
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
The standing practice is to root using Kingo then immediately installing Chainfire's latest superSU 1.85 which overwrites the Kingo superuser. Delete kingo from pc, run virus scan, enjoy your rooted N3.

The mere act of rooting is exploiting a security vulnerability in a device. If you're going to fear Kingo, you might as well never root, never trust any dev, and enjoy a completely stock device. But the government can monitor it and your carrier can lose your personal info to hackers, 'accidental' sharing of personal information, etc...

Notorious 3

---------- Post added at 07:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:47 AM ----------

Anyone not comfy using Kingo for fear of malicious intent will likely not use Vroot which is entirely written in Chinese.

Vroot is an option for those like you for who Kingo didn't work, but clicking YES to a Chinese statement you can't read is going to freak out the same people who refuse to use Kingo :D

Notorious 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Deekayy:
Agreed.. logic at its best. Scared using kingo? Let's use vroot instead! Sorry, inside rant.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Zhuge_Liang:
I had thought that stuff was still in development so as to not trip Knox or because of limitations imposed by its presence, ditto for recoveries. It's the reason why I haven't even bothered to perform a manual installation of CWM. I got the root I wanted and thought I'd let the dust settle until things were further along.

I'll look into SafeStrap.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
I've been flashing roms weekly since October and haven't tripped knox... both still 0x0

Notorious 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sonkameja:
I found the thread on XDA about installing super user over kingo but let's play devils advocate for one second let's say I'm trying to install malicious software on your phone ... wouldn't I build the software so that even if you installed a different superuser that I would still somehow maintain access of your information
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Az Biker:
ANY developer of ANY app could do likewise... Devil's advocate or not, using ANY method to root is 'in effect' installing malicious software, as is installing ANY mod, ANY theme, ANY kernel ...

I imagine thousands, if not tens of thousands of users have rooted using Kingo (it says it can root any Android) and the only complaint is that their source code is not public: not that hundreds of users have reported information leaks, strange apps self activating, etc...

Notorious 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hsomnus:
To ALL of you who are worried about kingo....guess what? Just DONT root!!!!

Rooting is not for you as any time you root and/or flash a custom rom you are opening yourself up to exploitation and potential retrieval of personal info stored on the device...NUFF SAID!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Big Cam:
I think it's cool that XDA is looking to verify the root method. I went ahead and used it a while and figure if they want a little info from me in return for doing the "almost" impossible, I say they can have it :) Rooted without tripping knox, and it's very painless.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Hey look, worriers are not necessarily xenophobic. We were once told here Kingo WAS unsafe. No it IS safe because (as I understand it) they wrote a letter to xda. It isn't insane to hope someone with the skill to analyze code would verify it. As to deleting it and replacing supersu if they are uploading data it's already been done. I have no reason to believe kingo isn't safe and would have assumed it was except for xda banishing links at one time. I do trust xda based on years of use.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Big Cam:
Where on earth did that come from??????
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Some of the posters' seemed concerned about the fact Kingo is not in USA. My point was I could care less. Android is international. My only concern about Kingo came from some of the initial posts from members of xda warning about data being uploaded. Kingo wrote explaining they no longer do this.

Is there a thread of Kingo users here with discussion and help about using Kingo?

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Big Cam:
There were a few threads but they were locked back when it was a little more questionable. Probably wouldn't hurt to open a new one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Well I've not used Kingo so all I can do is wait and watch if someone does. How does Kingo monetise its "apps" anyway?

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Big Cam:
What do you mean by monetize it's apps? Kingo roots your phone, it isn't a ROM. I've used it and it rooted mine without tripping knox just fine. I'm very pleased with it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
I mean make money. Like an app designer might get paid for including advertising.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Big Cam:
I see what you mean. On their site they say it's free. Not sure if there is a place to donate or what?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
If you go to their main page under the support tab there is a help us link for donations. I found out on their facebook page.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sonkameja:
I say in this day in age where every other major company out there is having millions of customers data stolen almost on a monthly basis that why risk ourselves even further to something that we don't have no true knowledge about when it comes to rooting. as far as I'm concerned I don't trust King as far as I can throw them. I'll wait for Chainfire to do something or some respectable well-known developer I just find it a bit too suspicious to be trusting King
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Snowman:
Has anyone tried this rooting method on the Note 3 N900W8 MJ4 without tripping knox?

Update: Successfully use this rooting method on my Note 3.

Root......yes.

Knox......0x0
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asrah:
I bought my phone off contract. This may or may not apply to people who people who did not buy their VZW N3 at RETAIL PRICE, aka off contract.

I used Kingo Root, it worked flawlessly. I immediately got rid of their SU app, and got the one from the Play Store. Since my phone is not being used on VZW, it wouldnt do them any good to have my IMEI, because the phone will never be used on Verizon. I use prepaid services, on GSM carriers. Only the serial number on the SIM card, means anything. I had the VZW LTE SIM in the phone when i did the root.

As far as any of us know, Kingo uses the IMEI to verify the model of the phone we have, prior to executing the root procedures. That is a very good practice. That process could be made even better, and much less "suspicious," if they would use some other method to identify our device. Is the IMEI the only way?

I appreciate what Kingo has done for owners of a phone that is treated like a borderline misuse of USA Anti Trust laws, by VZW. Lets face it, all we have so far is speculation. Its not fair to condone nor condemn their service. Its a general waste of time to even discuss this, unless someone can (legally) get into the program to see how the info is used.

Just to clarify, theres one reason Verizon is legally allowed to lock down their phones. It is not within the USA governments authority to determine what limitations Verizon puts on the products they make and/or distribute and/or sell.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] geronemo:
I am pretty happy with Stock ROM for now.

I just need to root my phone and want to know if doing it will cover the following:

1) Will I be able to wireless tether?

2) WIll "MW Manager app" from play store work? Titanium BackUp?

3) I am on MJ7, Should I install later Verizon version OTA or just keep MJ7 and root?

4) Knox won't be triggered and my data won't be wiped, right?

Also what do I have to do after rooting with kingo to get rid of their SU, other than install ChainFIre SU from Play store?

Thanks guys :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Harleydroid:
Not sure about wireless tether without running a custom rom. If your on tiered data it is free anyways. But if your still unlimited I'm sure there's something you can do after rooting so big red don't see tethering.

Yes Titanium will work perfect and MW app should work also.

I recommend doing Odin to MJE then root. That way if you wanna run a rom in the future you will be set. All roms are MJE now and you need MJE Kernel and Baseband for optimal performance.

Knox won't be triggered after rooting with Kingo.

The method to get rid of kingo supersu has been flashing chainfires supersu zip in Safestrap. But I heard guys installing it from playstore and then deleting the MTK camera file.

Also your data will not be wiped rooting with Kingo but if you odin to MJE you will wipe everything. So I'm not sure if you could just take the MJE update via ota then do that then root with kingo.

Hope I covered everything for ya.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
I must be daft... I'm on MJE (got the device yesterday) and can't seem to get Kingo to root (probably because I don't ever accept the pushed app for install).

Regardless, I'm not comfortable letting that program dump an app on my device without explanation as to what it does or why it has to be pushed to the device. One of my biggest issues is that even with the response, they haven't acknowledged that the progrem attempts to dump an app on your device; that should be a red flag. If it's to exploit root access, SAY SO, but they explained the exploit process with no mention of these phantom apps.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but part of the reason I have Android is the control, which blindly accepting a pushed app relinquishes.

I sent Kingo an email asking for explaination on MTKCamera, btw.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
For what it's worth I have had Kingo on my phone since day 1 with zero issues related to root. It has been flawless
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I used kingo and titanium backup wouldn't work because it basically said root wasnt fully functional. I ended up being able to run safestrap and flash root but that still didnt work so when i flashed beans rom it finally worked.

Sent From My Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
That's all well and good, and no one is doubting it works, but I have a problem with apps installed, which can't seem to be located afterwards, to get the job done. That's the very definition of malware and if we were referring to pc and Windows, the process would be flagged by most Antivirus software that detects malware.

That said, someone PLEASE prove me wrong and show us all this process is safe and the pushed app is legit. I'd gladly use Kingo right now if someone could do so.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] RomsWell:
Rooting a locked device is by nature a exploit. So im not sure what your looking for. Proof that its safe? Id go by the fact that no one to date has proof that it is maleware. Or go by the 1000s of users that have no complaints. Just be thankful we have a root exploit at all being a vzw customer and all. And any file your looking for is removed by kingo after root is achieved.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
I realize that, and I'm not trying to pick a fight, but you totally disregard the fact an app is pushed to the device and the program developer neglects to address it. You also ASSUME the file is removed... There are reports it can't be found, but no confirmation the Kingo program do removed it.

Also, the nonchalant approach to "no one says there are issues, so there arent" is exactly why botnets exist today. I don't think it's out of line to question software we're putting on our pc and device... Isn't that exactly what you should expect from a Linux/Android user, some sort of understanding of the software? Having root access is lovely, but if I'm turning my device into a sleeping bot or worse, my data on it is secretly pushed to a server in China.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
Couldn't any root exploit of a locked device do that? You either take the chance or you don't. It's a risk no matter how you cut it. Every time we sideload an app or flash a rom we take the same chance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
I suppose they could, but we'd still see the request to install. For all the exploits thus far, the person who discovered it tends to be a programmer and WANTS to explain how he did it (Dan with LG devices is a prime example). The issue isn't the app, it's the unknown need for the app and the developer's lack of recognition of the app. It could be benign and simply necessary to push the exploit... If that's the case, tell us, so WE can decide if it's worth it. This blind acceptance I'm seeing from people is quite odd for the Linux/Android Community.

Btw, this is my 5th Android device and going all the way back to the OG Droid, I've never had to sideload an app to obtain root access.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LaoShanLong:
So as I understand it, this method has an issue with information about your phone being sent to the developers of kingo?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
From reading the email reply, it says xda has people reverse engineering its code. Can anyone tell me who the individuals reverse engineering kingos code are? Just curious who they are and what they found/what their thoughts were.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
They are referring to this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2624892
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] beepea206:
Yea, it pulls you're IMEI and other data like your carrier and number, which they address as being necessary to confirm your phone (or something to that extent). Not the most cogent or believable reply, but they seem benign with what they're doing with the info.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] recDNA:
I wish that were true but I think that ship has sailed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] RedScotch:
all adware is malware. adware opposite of without cost

That would be profit by treating privacy as a commodity; that's always evil. adware is malware.