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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pcss911:
Thank you very kindly for the quick reply. Just so I'm clear - If I follow the OP, I will end up with Beans ROM, have access to the full storage capacity just as if I had remained stock and never bothered with SS, and Knox remains at 0x0? Will this process also grant me root access, and if so, would it be the "Kingo" method? To clarify, when installing Beans ROM, is it already pre-rooted, and if so, is it MI9 or MJ7, and if MJ7, would the Kingo method have been involved?

Thanks again for taking the time to assist an inexperienced modder.

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I agree with the logic behind getting the DE, but if I understand correctly, it so far does not yet have a fallback position in the form of a stock tar. Also, with regard to retail updates spoiling the party, isn't it simple enough to merely inhibit future updates by freezing a process in TB? Understanding, of course, that I would then be "stuck" at that revision level. That's the approach I took with the S3 I'm still on, which is unlocked and rooted, still at ICS 4.04, and still working great.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
If you end following my guide you will end up having beans rom installed with no partitioning, this is the equivalent of If you had twrp on the recovery partition of an unlocked device for flashing roms. And there is no update trouble, people who clicked update knew well of the consequences. And I'm pretty sure everyone on here knows what to do to stop the notifications via freezing or removing "sdm". But you could still root via kingo, so that's no problem. In my opinion there is no real advantage of the dev edition, you can flash full roms. People can argue you can't flash aosp to the stock, but that totally takes away the "note" experience or aspect. Because all the pen can do on aosp is be a regular pen without airview, actionmemo and stuff. Plus when you flash via twrp on the dev edition it trips knox. But with ss it remains at 0x0.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
So does this remove the safety net we set up at the beginning of setting up ss? Sorry ss is all new to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hctimin:
After doing what OP mentioned, SS does disappear, but I just re-installed it after moving Beans to the stock slot.

Knox was still 0x0 and root was still maintained for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Are you talking about the app or the recovery?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] toddnbrown:
nice writeup, worked flawlessly for me. One question, when sbreen pushes out OTA updates to Hyperdrive, will there be any issues flashing that on top of HD in the stock slot?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hctimin:
The app and Hashcode's SS splash screen disappeared. Wasn't a big deal as I just re-installed it and was back in business.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Mr. Toad:
Do you have to delete the ROM Slot before restoring it to the main slot? I did not delete it and am getting a failure when restoring the ROM. My MD5 Sums are good. I have flashed many roms on unlocked bootloaders. This is my first time using something like SS since my Droid 2 days. Afraid to boot into the main slot now if it is corrupted.

Anyone know if I do boot to that will I still get the SS splash screen?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
I don't know, I would think it would hurt. It may be a bad backup or try rebooting recovery, mounting all of the partitions, deleting the virtual rom slot, and try again . If that doesn't work just try a new backup. And make sure your running the most recent safestrap build.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Mr. Toad:
Yeah, Well like an idiot I answered my own question. You do not get a splash screen when the main ROM slot is bad. Glad I had the ODIN files downloaded already just in case.

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I unbricked with ODIN without wiping. Rooted via Kingo. Installed SS. Flashed the new SuperSU and Found my slots still there. That was good. I will try to flash the stock slot again tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
I had mine setup with the stock ROM (although it was highly debloated and customized) in the stock slot and Beans in ROM slot 1.

I had purchased mine the day it came out so it had the old m9 firmware. At this point, I made a nandroid of both the stock and the Beans setup to my 64 gig card.

The ROM was MUCH too customized (apps deleted etc.) to even attempt to do the OTA update so I downloaded the full mj9 tar image from crack flashers & flashed that with Odin. That obviously left it with no root, so I rooted with Kingo.

I then installed the latest safestrap and reinstalled the TWRP recovery. When I booted into recovery, I had to re-create the ROM 1 slot, so I did that & then restored the Beans nandroid BU to that slot. That setup runs absolutely perfect, I have the new firmware/modem etc. and I still have a virgin copy of the stock mj7 ROM in the stock slot that I could fall back on if anything bad happens.

I thought about deleting the stock slot, but I figured I will leave that intact to accept further firmware updates etc.etc.

I still have over 2 gigs of free space with 97 apps installed so there is no real reason to delete it anyway at the present time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
You can't delete the stock slot. And if you were planning of just running Rom-slot-1 and deleting the stock (impossible). Why don't you just flash over stock so you can utilize all of the storage, and you wanted to delete it. I created a tutorial in general to flash over stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
Yea, I worded that wrong.

I realize you can't delete the stock slot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Mr. Toad:
I tried again. It worked without a problem. I did delete the ROM slot this time. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Deekayy:
So after reading this.. You delete rom-slot1 and restore the backed up rom-slot1 into the stock ROM? Does it overwrite stockrom files or delete prior before restoring onto stock slot?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Yep, if you read the commands while restoring its saying "deleting system, deleting DATA" ect... But to be safe I still wripe all of the partitions except internal storage (that's were my rom and backups are).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Deekayy:
Alright, thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tomsgt:
Heres a video I made on this topic as well please put it the OP if you think it will help

http://youtu.be/S_Fyd2HOOxQ
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
I sent you a pm.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Menardo:
If i have Hyperdrive installed over stock like you showed. If i want to update to the newest Hyperdrive do i just perform the same steps with the updated rom?!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Menardo:
Just wanted to confirm it worked...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kalani91:
when I tried to backup the rom I put in slot 1, it said backup failed " unable to mount internal storage, unable to mount external SD. Do I need to mount them first?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Reboot recovery or try to remount the partitions.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Xanza89:
I just used this method tonight and everything went very smooth, I'm glad I came across this thread. Thanks for posting this!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Np. I just am old fashioned flasher.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] aaa3aaa:
if there's a password before choose for recovery or boot~~that'll be better!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dukins:
Whatever you do, don't delete system lol. Accidentally deleted because Im new to ss, and had to start from scratch (soft brick).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
You can wipe system as long as you restore the backup to the place you wiped.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Epic 4g:
Lets say I have Beans Build 2 in my STOCK ROM slot, to update it to Build 3 I would need to flash Build 3 on ROM slot 1, back it up THEN restore it to the STOCK ROM slot?

I guess I just need to be 100% sure I know what I am doing because I am also a SS noob. How do you update a ROM if it's on the STOCK ROM slot after doing this method on this thread?!?

Thanks to anyone who can help. :good:

P.S. good job on this tutorial, it's GREAT to have FULL access to your 32 GB then the small little nothing you get on ROM slots 1 though 4. :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Yep, you got it :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NoFanboy:
Weird. I backed up my rom slot 1, deleted it and when I'm trying to restore it onto my stock slot, the backup folder won't even show up. I press recover on SS and theres a big black box.. I have the slot backed up to my micro sd and that is checked over up top next to storage. But it's not showing any files or anything..

Could it be because I renamed the backup folders?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tuxdreamerx:
So could I run a custom rom along side the stock rom without affecting the stock rom at all? I use good for enterprise so it will freak out if it detects root but if I could essentially dual boot thatd be awesome.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Enterprise doesn't work with ss. If will fudge up your phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] moot1:
I remember reading somewhere that restoring a slot rom on the stock will cause your phone to brick. Is that not the case?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
That's not the case, but good luck. Your not going to need it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mikeb85:
I am running hyperdrive on stick slot with no other slots in use. if I wanted to flash lets say jellybeans as stock slot do I start the original process all over again?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Yep. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] moot1:
Thanks for the response, I just wanted to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, but doesn't the safestrap site says it will? Again not disagreeing with you, but merely wanting to make sure I understand, before I move forward.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
If you read the past comments and his thread you would get the answer. On top of me already answering your question. And I'm "pretty sure," or I wouldn't post this guide.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mjlewis0102:
Taking the plunge (butt naked). Finger hovering the "Thanks" button!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Resurrecting this thread for new users.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DizzyDre20XX:
Trouble Resotring

Hello,

First thank you for your hard work and research.

I am running SS 3.65 on Droid Bionic. I'm currently on CM11 in slot 1. When i boot into SS and try to restore the back-up into stock slot it will complete data and cache but it will fail on system even after mounting both data and system. what am i missing?

I did:

-Install Rom in Slot 1

-Set it up to my liking

-Reboot

-Back up Slot 1

-Switch to Stock Side

-Wipe Data, Dalvik, Cache, and System on Stock Slot

-Restore Back up from slot 1

-Restore Fails...

Also i know this is a Note 3 forum but i would guess that devices don't matter since this is thru safestrap... or am i wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DizzyDre20XX:
OK so i figured it out.

Turns out my Gapps package was too big to go with the ROM so i was able to successfully restore with a smaller package.

GREAT TUTORIAL, Thanks!!! :D

--Edit--

So after installing and booting CM in stock the splash screen for SS appeared and the hardware keys were still functional... should i be worried and reinstall recovery again like i did in stock?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Playb3yond:
If I remove safestrap after the custom rom is installed to the stock rom slot, will it still boot?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] phillymade:
No reason it shouldn't

Sent from One Bad Ass Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Playb3yond:
I tried this on my RAZR M with CM10 and it wouldn't boot at all. The file system wouldn't mount
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] RomsWell:
Yes it will
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harrytery:
just wanted to bump this to the top...this is too good for people not to see
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DroidUser_Wind:
S3 Compatibility?

Hey Brandon, Thank You So Much for posting this for us Galaxy Users.Worked liked a breeze on my Note 3. I Was Wondering,Would The Same Process Work On My Galaxy S3? I Just Wanna Use Cleanrom and Never Look At That Stock Rom Again.(Even Though I Have It Backed Up,For Safety Purposes)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jinh0o:
This is the first time loading up a ROM on an android device so I apologize in advance if these are questions already answered.

If I restore the ROM(Planning on trying Jasmine) onto the Stock after backing it up on the boot options, this process will erase everything with the Stock ROM? Or do I have to clean the stock using the wipe option.

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gemito138:
1.13.82 is the number of compilation for o2 or for all the htc universal machines?

i have the 1.13.53 of jasjar and 1.04.02 or radio.

Can i upload 1.13.82 of 02, the extended rom of imate 1.13.137 and 1.04.02?

thank you and sorry for my english.
[HTC One X] nancyfromafrica:
Hi I am buying a second hand htc one x the seller says the screen brightness does not change and remains constant which is a bit low on brightness I was wondering if there is a fix of this problem.

May be its a hardware issue if so can it be fixed and how much do you think it will cost. :rolleyes:

I am buying it because he is selling it at half the original price, no warranty, no headphones.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grimmyrippy:
hi guys sorry for this thread, i just want to ask something

in the past few days i had read android police and engadget review about nexus 5 and i notice that they having problem in camera they experiencing a shutter lag specially in low light and no light condition just a flash, is it possible to fix this by software update or is it hardware related?

i planned to buy this phone by december so is it possible to fix it by update?

this phone is powerful that's why i'm hoping that the camera can perform without shutter lag or with at least a milliseconds shutter lag, i don't care for the quality
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJsevol:
Seems software related because there's a zip on the dev side that improves the shutter lag and improves other things as well.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Mine did. Had it in my back pocket (stupid, I know, but I'm used to sticking my devices there), and next thing I knew, I had a bent n5 with backlight bleed galore. Seems this is a common problem with the iPhone, but unfortunately I expect to see more n5 users fall into my boat, as I was even being relatively careful to not put excessive weight on it while sitting (and I only weigh 160lb). Save yourself headaches and break any habits you have of putting things in your rear pockets now. :'(
[Nexus 5 General] 1stx2:
oh man, thats not cool. coming from a note 2 ( thats where i keep mine ) this makes me cringe.
[Nexus 5 General] Mgamerz:
How can you stand sitting on a solid object like that?
[Nexus 5 General] ricecake2000:
I assume wallet in one pocket phone in other. It would actually even you out haha.
[Nexus 5 General] dttn:
I cringe whenever I see someone sitting on their phones.
[Nexus 5 General] egofreak:
Still odd that he bent the phone by sitting on it. Did you butt slam the thing or what? haha
[Nexus 5 General] zephiK:
No idea why someone would put their phone in their back pockets in the first place, to be honest. Seems common sense not to do that.
[Nexus 5 General] Sparx75:
I can't imagine being comfortable having a smartphone on my arse.
[Nexus 5 General] 1stx2:
This. Lol

I'll probably be keeping my n5 in my front pocket since it won't be as big as my note 2.
[Nexus 5 General] NinjaKenZen:
How much do you weigh?

Valid question.
[Nexus 5 General] 3UR0TR45H:
I always keep my phones back there and weigh 280!
[Nexus 5 General] Damian2013:
Soooo stupid to have your phones in your back pocket. I always thought that was dumb.
[Nexus 5 General] alias3800:
w.... tF. People sit on their phones?
[Nexus 5 General] egofreak:
OP said 160. I think hes not telling us about 10-30 pounds:highfive:

Same, but it happens.

again, it happens.

Your everyday carry can get out of hand fast.

5 inch phone, wallet, keys, pen,headphones, knife,flashlight Some of us may carry guns depending on the country, license status , or occupation. You can hit the need for a "man purse/satchel" very quickly. Sometimes your pants have bigger back pockets so that's where it ends up.
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
would like to see pictures to see the result und the weak points of the case
[Nexus 5 General] egofreak:
I would like to see this too!
[Nexus 5 General] Maelik:
Every time I see someone stick their phone in their back pocket, I give them a bewildered look. Then they ask me why I'm looking at them like that, and I reply, "You actually keep your phone in your back pocket? How can you stand that?"

Goodness gracious, that has to be a chore to sit on, and I've seen a many stories where phones have been broken by being sat on.
[Nexus 5 General] nikeman513:
Sounds like a human error OP, not a manufacturing error. Nothing to go creating a thread about. Most of us know sitting on your phone is not very smart....
[Nexus 5 General] can6rxw:
Back in the day, I used to carry my personal Cell Phone on my hip in a case along with my pager for my work and my Palm Pre PDA. I looked like a real Techno Geek for sure. :p These days, I carry my work phone on my hip only. My PDA and my cell are now one and I carry that in my front pocket. Heck...I get nervous when I bend forward to tie my shoes. But...I live in Canada eh? and carry my cell in my jacket pocket or shirt pocket most of the time now. I've very aware of it at all times as I do not want an accident to happen. Putting it in my back pocket and sitting on it makes me twitch just thinking of it! :eek::eek::eek:
[Nexus 5 General] Pard0ned:
Yeah, I never understood the reasoning behind putting a phone in your back pocket. I was always amazed to see someone pull a phone out of their back pocket and see it still turn on.

Something I'd never do though. If needs be I'll just carry a bag, TBH.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Okay people, here's the deal; I play in a band. I was at a gig yesterday evening. The sun was right in our faces and very hot. I switched the n5 to my back pocket so it wouldn't fry in the front pocket. I didn't think to much about it as I've kept my galaxy player there many times. And for those doubting my weight, I actually over estimated, as I'm closer to 155, lolol. I'll put some pictures up soon.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
And trust me, I now know, that is the stupidest thing you can do, and will now always have my phone in either the front or in a belt holster.
[Nexus 5 General] .jond:
Amazing. Do people sit on their laptops or HDTVs to?
[Nexus 5 General] raptir:
[PSA] If you store your phone under the back tire of your car, it may bend or shatter.

C'mon, smartphones are not designed to be sat on. Some may be able to handle it, but they're not designed with that intent.
[Nexus 5 General] onmike:
Same reason most put their wallet in their back pocket. Just feels right. For me, I'm less likely to have change, keys, or anything that would scratch the device in my back pocket so I do put it there from time to time. Probably 5 out of 100 pockets.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Something tells me I'm not the only one here that puts their phone in their back pocket from time to time. Back pockets were made to hold things, after all. And as I said, I recognize that I'll never do it again. Before now, I just didn't know it could damage a phone, as I've seen hundreds of people do it.
[Nexus 5 General] Dan1909:
You never thought that putting a large proportion of your body weight through a device that is in no way designed to sustain those kind of loads could damage it!?

Surely that much should be obviously to absolutely anybody who's ever held a phone!
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Did you even read the OP? I said I was even careful not to put excessive weight on it. Further more, did you read my post several up? There are times when one NEEDS to put their phone in the back pocket. Once it was there, I gave little thought about it while sittting down.
[Nexus 5 General] Dan1909:
Yeah I read those, and it explains why it was in your back pocket, but that wasn't really the point I was making.

I was just shocked that anybody could not realise that sitting on a phone (even if you are not putting your full weight directly on it) when it's trapped in a pocket could damage it! I'm also surprised you didn't notice it was there as soon as you sat down, and removed it from your pocket to avoid this situation.

But at least we all know now, and can hopefully avoid it in future.
[Nexus 5 General] Damian2013:
Fry your phone? You realize the kind of heat that would take? Clearly not.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Do you realize what kind of heat the sun can generate in Arizona? Clearly not. No, it wouldn't fry it, but it could easily get it up to 125 degree temps in jean pockets, which isn't the most comfortable for the wearer.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Maybe it's just me, but if a phone can't withstand being in a back pocket, then it's not going to withstand more than a month of my rather abusive lifestyle. I live on a ranch. Things are gonna get abused. I wanted to love this phone so much, but clearly it's only for pretty little city boys who have nothing better to do than make sure their phone is comfortable and safe inside the front pocket of their dillan skinnys.
[Nexus 5 General] Dan1909:
To be honest, it's surprising that you're expecting any phone to survive that... Regardless of if you live out in the sticks, there's only so much any phone is designed for. Sitting on it should obviously register as a bad idea, even to those farmer types who don't put much thought into it.
[Nexus 5 General] big fancy:
Just put it in your back pocket again but facing the opposite direction and sit on it again. Straighten it right out! :)
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
As I said, I've kept my galaxy player in the back pocket for years without a problem. I've seen hundreds of others do the same with their phones. I try to keep everything in the front, but occasionaly it HAS to go in the back. Millions of people keep their phone in the back, but I don't see millions of phone users complaining about their phones bending, so I think it is reasonable to expect a phone to withstand this
[Nexus 5 General] JCreazy:
I see girls out put phones in their back pockets all the time, I assume it is because it doesn't fit in the front . I have never seen a guy with a phone in his back pocket though.
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
Lolol, thanks for the laugh! The days been going not so great so far. :\

Pics in the OP now, btw.
[Nexus 5 General] TheDudeAbides:
The only time a phone should go in your back pocket is if you're a girl. Now that's sexy!
[Nexus 5 General] tvdang7:
Wtf
[Nexus 5 General] steslatt:
NEW THREAD TITLE "Your phone may not work after you use it in the shower."

I was on my phone to my girlfriend whilst in the shower. After a few minutes it just cut off and would not switch back on. I think maybe the water or soap might have some how damaged it....

You sat on your phone and it broke, what did you expect was going to happen, the phone would recline back and work perfectly!?
[Nexus 5 General] iJimaniac:
With the n5, I jumped ahead from the Samsung gs1 era. I guess I missed something in between where people lowered their quality standards ridiculously low in order to have the thinnest phone. Yes. I do expect a phone to hold up to being sat on, as a phone should fit one's lifestyle, not the other way around.