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[Xperia Z1 Accessories] HotKillerZzz:
Try getting the nillkin glass. It has very good oleo phobic coating. I wash my phone and clean it with a cloth every day. Would expect the coating to be gone very soon. But 3 months and the coating still as smooth as ever.

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[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ckchan08:
i am using nilkin glass sp now. i would say it's value for money. but my case, been using it for 2 months and i feel the coating is going off...

right now tempted to change to those which do not have the cutout hole for the proximity sensor. looks nicer. found 2 brand, Crystal Armor and Ultimate Shield. but crystal armor is too expensive to me. so considering to change to Ultimate Shield once the oleophobic coating is all gone on my nilkin glass sp
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] victaaaa:
Oleophobic coating is still good for me, though it has started to wear off.

I'd say that fitment is better than the Nillkin sp and is more scratch resistant
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] HotKillerZzz:
Agreed, the nillkin scratches up quite easily.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Aegethir:
Maybe it's because I keep always a case on my Z1, but my Nilkin doesn't have a scratch after 4 months of use; although the oleophobic coating is pretty much gone, but the glass is easily cleaned with a cloth. I do have another new Nilkin, but I don't feel the need to change it yet.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] seben11:
Thank you for your labor
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Bossk128:
I'm another with a scratched Nilikin. I'm going to replace with another brand. Any stand out favourites?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] angryGTS:
My Nillkin chipped after one day of use other than that not a scratch on it. I just ordered a Skinomi Tech Glass to try out hopefully it lasts but if not it has a lifetime warrantee apparently.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ilos:
take a look here : http://www.thekase.com/EN/p/accesso...protector-for-sony-xperia-z1-transparent.html

i'm using it since 3 months without any scratch

Also for the back i'm using that : http://easyskinz.com/collections/so...arbon-fibre-full-body-wrap-cover-sticker-skin

it's a full skin but i'm only using the back piece :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Bossk128:
Thanks.

It's pretty expensive but if it does the job then that's great.

I have to say though the ASF has caused me far more grief than I would ever have expected. I've never had a scratch on any other phone (Desire, One X) yet the ASF is soft and can scratch, and thus needs a protector. If I buy the Kase one linked above, that will be £45 I've spent on screen protectors. 12% of the cost of the phone!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] iiclocks87:
Back of z1

My question is pretty short and simple: if the original anti shatter films are removed from the back, will the sony, xperia and nfc logos also be removed? I think on the front it will be removed, but i am not sure about the back. Please help
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] emccccc:
as far as I know, only the sony logo will be removed because the NFC and XPERIA logos are actually printed behind the glass, or at least part of the actual glass panel at the back.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] vignesh207:
Hi guys!! This is a very interesting thread! Hats off to OP!!

Anyways, I've been owning an z1 for a few months now. The retailer I purchased from gave me a screen protector free, so my asf is completely safe. But u want a tempered glass protector as the screen protector destroys the premium feel of glass.

The links for nillkin and glass m from the OP doesn't work now. So I'm confused of which will be a best buy right now.

Please suggest some good options!!

Thanks! :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] New Folder:
I'm using Ultimate Shield Tempered Glass 9H

So far no scratches :D
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] weseason:
Installed new Mocolo glass in my Z1 front and back glass protection $27.5 http://glass4m.com/products/mocolo-for-sony-xperia
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] HotKillerZzz:
26USD?! That's damn expensive for mocolo. Could I have a pic of the packaging? The mocolo here is Singapore can be gotten for around SGD10$ and maybe less than that.

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Btw does it affect cases? Since it will add some size to the back
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Ashlander80:
I just received the .2mm Glass-M front and back protectors, and was seriously disappointed when I opened it up. (Ordered from their main site)

1. I was expecting them to not have any cutouts with the exception of the back camera lens, as I saw commented on either this or a different thread. The protectors I received had the proximity sensor cutout in the front, and the back had cutouts for the lens, flash, and a third cutout to the right that doesn't seem to be for anything.

2. The front piece is a different product than the back piece, it even has a completely different peel-away film. It's about 3mm longer then the screen and the back protector, and the corners are much rounder. After some spec checking I've come to the conclusion that the front piece I received is for a Z2, as the Z2 screen is the same width, but 3mm longer from top to bottom, and has more rounded corners as well. It also seems to be a bit thinner than the back piece, so I'm guessing the back piece I received is a .3mm instead of a .2mm, which may explain all the cutouts.

Pretty much a cluster**** all the way around. Only way to contact them is by an auto-forward email through their site as well, so I was unable to send pictures of what I got back to them. I haven't heard anything back yet, but I'll give it a couple days.

Here's pics of the protectors I got, not sure how they differ from what others have received.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Zerousen:
The third cutout on the back piece is for the IR blaster on certain models of the Z1, specifically the l39h. Alot of cases have the cutout as well.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Ashlander80:
Oh, I've never seen any cases with it. I'm guessing it's not on any of the US models and just the Chinese ones?

Its been a few days and I haven't heard anything back yet. I've sent 2 emails since Monday. Has anyone else had any luck contacting them, or have a direct email address or something?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] vignesh207:
Actually it's the Japanese versions.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] user822:
I installed a mocolo one.

Grease isn't too bad on it.

Feels "smooth".

Fit was below average I think, it is a little smaller than the screen.

Did not drop my phone(yet), so can't talk about how good it is at it's main job.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] fer2503:
i bought a glass.tr from Spigen. I installed it 1 month ago. This morning i see a small bubble in top left corner O.o. I don't understand how it is possible!...How i can solve it?...i Can get a substituion from spigen or amazon? (i bought it on amazon from spigen seller) It look like the adehesive get off. i try to press it but it don't go out. Any solution?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] fer2503:
what about it?...It's a good choice?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] fer2503:
what's the better tempered glass? Someone test the spigen glass.tr?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] weseason:
Mocolo glass provide good fingerprints resistant and very smooth touch screen.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jcgechevarria:
Both covers are tempered glass or it's back cover only plastic film??
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] weseason:
I very like this is they both side is glass protector :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] yoorie016:
Hi Guys,

at the very first moment you'd bought the phone, you must buy first a screen protector of your choice, then install it in your Z1.

since i dont like to loose my SONY logo, i buy a tempered glass screen protector and place it in my phone.

:D
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] bluesskid:
Hi, guys.

I am going to buy xperia z ultra.But i found the threats like screen cracks.So how to protect the Screen from Cracks.

Pls reply soon.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] littlespikey:
Just ordered Glass-M.. Can this go directly above the ASF?

Any tips for installing?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ksoze:
I believe there should be no issues with applying over the ASF - although for mine, there are some tiny air bubbles surrounding the Sony Logo. They are very small - you can hardly tell they are there. They could be there because I kept removing the protector to clean...

Avoid dust at all costs. Judging by the installation videos, the Glass-M is smart to include that pink adhesive film. That should go a long way to pick up most, if not all of any dust on the phone. I would get an extra set of hands and leave the film on the phone until the very last minute. One person to handle the Glass-M, another to remove the pink film.

Standard tricks apply - Use a humid washroom after a hot shower. Use scotch tape to lift any particles. Wash your hand to avoid fingerprints. etc.

If you do happen to get dust, either live with it, or start the entire process all over again. I ruined my protector (Nillkin) trying to remove a single dust particle. I don't know how this dust particle got there in the first place - I had left the factory protective film on (not the ASF) until I started the installation.

This time I'll try a Glass-M instead - the Nillkin isn't bad, I just want to try the thinner glass version.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] smallkeung:
1. Clean the screen!!

2. I am not sure yours "Glass-M", but, should be same here, check the video on the bottom of Brando's webpage

http://shop.brando.com/Brando-Works...-Edition-Sony-Xperia-Z1-_p10088c1547d073.html

It is easy to install, it installed automatically. :good:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] dazza7111:
I've emailed Sony UK, bought Z1 second hand no recite, If its not under warranty the ASF is coming off, If it is its stopping on.

Ps how long do these glass protectors last? Was thinking to remove ASF on next one in 6 months or so?

Have Glass-m version.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] sm.vassallo:
Ordered the Glass-M version myself directly from their website, $21.99 USD all in with taxes and delivery. I will be removing the ASF personally.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] noryn:
How Much Border of the Screen left over?

I have applied Nilkiin TGSP (TemperedGlassScreenProtector) and my feel it is to little. Unfortunatly my phone can´t take picture by themselfes. I whould prefere to ad width and height of TGSP to the overview (nice work :good:).

Aswell if someone could measure before applied then post please - thx!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] noobee1:
Thanks Shander

Thanks Shander for this one-stop shop on anything( and a brilliant, well researched post as a first one) and everything on tempered glass protectors. I have nevered looked into those in detail, and this simplified things a lot. much better job than wikipedia :good:. it also lead me to bodson66's thread on Glass-M. So, I have decided on going for that one, if they release a front+back combo that is. Also Glass-M seems to have the best pricing and thickness among all the tempered glass protectors. By the way, is it really corning? Their site says so. Hoping that they release the front+back one for z1 soon, thankfully at a price of around 25$ or less :angel:.

By the way, will a front+back tempered glass protector render the dock dk31 useless. It does come with two different sized fittings, with cover(I am guessing it works with only a normal back case/cover or bumper, none of those double layer tough ones) and without cover ones. Though I still have to get a dock, I will definitely be purchasing it sooner than later, as opening a flap everytime gets annoying. Plus many users reported the dk31 charging the z1 much faster than the conventional charging, at least 30mins of decrease in reaching the 100 % mark.

Btw i just received an email from Glass-M( I too had contacted them, as I was getting impatient). The good news is that they ship to India via airmail for a fee of 5$ and "We are under develop back glass protector for Sony Z1." So, hopefully soon, we have both. Another thing that is bothering me is the absence of a front camera hole/cut out., as [MENTION=5423267]snetwork[/MENTION] said Glass-M has a cut out just for the sensors(light+proximity). For front camera there isnt any. Will that in any way affect the camera quality/performance?

Also- [MENTION=5423267]snetwork[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5542141]littlespikey[/MENTION] are two Glass-M users as of now. Can you please post reviews on that ?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ryan25012003:
Hey guys,

Note that the Nillkin one is not a perfect fit and is easily broken when trying to remove it. Also, it comes with a regular film protector for the back which is a nice touch.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Shander:
Wow! :) These are very kind words. Thanks, man! :D

I was wondering about the same thing, until I've found out about Magnetic Charging Connectors. Like this one for example: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2403846. In my opinion you don't need a whole dock to charge your phone :cool:. The speed of charging depends on the charger unit, so if you want to do this fater, simply buy a stronger one (more mA). I'm not sure however, if it won't decrease the life span of your battery (citation needed).

I've also found this (true wireless charging): http://www.ti.com/tool/bqtesla100lp...=267038b3-26e1-2548-5364-000059707930&247SEM=

Not sure how comercially available is it, but it's certainly interesting :)

Muvit Tempered Glass Protector has a cutout for camera. Although I don't have a phone (nor glass protector), I believe that this second cutout for camera is not necessary. Think of it this way - every cutout impedes the structural integrity of the material it is in. Tempered Glass is no exception. The hole for proximity sensor is a necessity, because the phone would go bonkers otherwise. As a reassurance I can tell you, that these glass protectors have a very high clarity ratio and smoothness, so they should not disturb anything. Also, the front camera is only 2Mpix, so don't expect too much from photos made with it :).

I would be happy to put this information into my opening post, but I need more data. For example how much width (left+right) and height (top+bottom) is missing from the edge of the screen (please be as accurate as you can), when protector is placed exactly where it should be.

As an offtopic: Today I will become an owner of Z1! :D I've already ordered Glass-M couple of days ago. When I receive it, I will give it a full review.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] noobee1:
(citation needed) you pull off a wikipediation there :cool: after a wiki compliment :laugh:

Common, its an Xperia Z1(deserves a finely crafted art piece- though I wont be able to get it right away, since I already spent some on 32GB class 10 SonySR-32UYA microSD card and will have no option but to spend soon on a good screen protector- Card just arrived :D) , and a dock made by Sony for the Z1 would any day be safer and reliable over risking it with a non-Sony higher output device, wont it ?

Wow, again you pull a wiki pro move on me. Thats some promising product, but way beyond my commercially/consumer level of comprehension :o

dude! that is blasphemous talk! you know, I switched from a series of Samsungs, was sick of the horrifyingly bloated software towards S3. Both Galaxy S II and III had great cameras, even the front ones. this blew me over, even my friend on the other side was like WHOHAOHSHDAOH whats this camera you got! it is 2 mp Unreal Level of Clarity. plus I also am a smartphone enthusiast, write reviews[xperia z1] ;) I am mentioning that, so you know, how truthful I am while debunking your understatement of the shockingly marvelous 2mp front shooter.

You keep doing that bro! If time permits I might credit your research on my blog :) with all the data collected so far. will be a useful piece for users.

Congrats on that!! That makes me want to reshare my excitement of finally receiving the Class 10 UHS-I 32 GB Sony SR-32UYA. I am already below 2GB free space on the internal!! :(
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Thraxzzz:
Just get the dock and remove the wire inside it :p that's what I'm doing with my z1,naked with nilkin glass protector

Sent by voldermort's nose
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] noryn:
I have bought this one and works with Niilkin GP...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] shem2409:
Here is my Nillkin Amazing H+ tempered screen review, complete with scratch test and installation instructions on Sony Xperia Z1.

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[Xperia Z1 Accessories] DAddYE:
Can any confirm that really we don't have any glass without both holes (camera and sensor)? I'm asking that because I plan to buy one and remove the Sony screen protector and from previous experiences holes become a dust/scratch magnet
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ksoze:
I don't think it is possible to have anything blocking the proximity sensors - it would cause issues with any phone function that relies on the sensor. i.e. During a phone call if the proximity sensor is blocked, the touchscreen and the display will be deactivated for the duration - to prevent accidental keypresses and to save power. With the sensor blocked, it will immediately turn both off - even when you don't hold the phone up to your ear.

If you're removing the ASF - you shouldn't have any issues with scratching - unless you have lots of sand in your pockets?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] braveally:
So let me get this straight. You don't have to remove the asf for these tempered glass protectors to be effective, but many of you are choosing to do so any way. Is it that annoying or really yield that much benefit? Visuals on a phone are not actually a high priority for me (durability and reliability is to for me), so I'm thinking I should be okay placing it on top of the asf.

Haven't received mine yet, should be here next week. I'm thinking of ordering the glass-m now. I have a skinomi on the way with the phone but think I will be sending it back since seeing this beautifully organized thread.

Thanks for your tips, I plan to read all three related threads now.

Sent from the streets of Oakland, CA using Tapatalk 2.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] dazza7111:
Just put Glass-M on top of ASF it's all good. :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] omnius1:
I had some screen protector rage today. I suck at putting them on. I just destroyed two because as hard as I tried, I got a dust particle under it both times, being very careful. When I tried to lift it to get rid of it, the screen protector adhesion kept getting worse and worse until it was unusable. F this. I knew I hated them (because I suck at them) years ago and now I remember why. I'm taking off the stupid scratchable ASF, F the warranty I'll eat the $700 if I have to. They should've just used gorilla glass...

/rage
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] reventon_703:
Good News: CRYSTAL ARMOR for Xperia Z1

Hey Shander,

I am basically on the same boat as you are, having received my Xperia Z1 2 weeks ago, I still havn't peeled off the stock instruction plastic as I am too afraid to scratch the surfaces of my Z1. I have looked up some tempered glass screen protector reviews and it seems that Armorz is a good candidate. Personally, I am impressed by its oleophobic layer, shock resistance, and the fact that it is still made in U.S. Anyways, I posted on their Taiwan Facebook page and contacted their U.S email to inquire if they are planning to make one for the Z1. It seems though, I am getting contradicting response.

This is directly from the reply I received from the U.S. Armorz:

"Thanks for your interested with Armorz Stealth Extreme R for Sony Xperia Z1.

It is currently out of stock and we will take a note and notify you once it available for purchase.

We do have the back coverage of the Z1 as well, we will send you more information soon."

But earlier this morning, Armorz Taiwan posted a reply on Facebook saying that:

"If Armorz was to release tempered glass protector for the Z1, there would only be front coverage and nothing for the back." (Translated from their response)

However, they did mention earlier that:

They "have received notification from the U.S. that the tempered glass screen protectors will be available by mid-November in Taiwan" though the exact date is not known.

Note that currently on the U.S. Armorz official site, the product is not yet available. I will update you guys if anyone is still interested in Armorz.

Anyways, not willing to give up, I have decided to look up Japanese sites to see if there is any local brand for tempered glass protectors that has back coverage as well. And by chance, I managed to find this:

Reference: [http] weekly.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/177/177956/

Official Site: [http] [www] crystal-armor.com/#!/items/527c6e78236a1e650f000477 (My apologies to Moderators, I have no intention to spam. I appreciate your understanding :))

Now I am not fluent in Japanese, though I believe it is quite obvious from all the English that this brand does in fact have back coverage for the Z1 as well.

A rough attempt to translate from kanji, here are some highlights:

0.33mm thick round tempered glass screen protector

9H Hardness

Fusscode COAT anti-fingerprint, oleophobic layer

Shatter resistance layer

Bubble prevention and silicon self adhesive layer

​

Not sure if there will be cutting for the proximity sensor

Price: 3675 YEN ~= 27.18EURO ~= 38.31CAD

I apologize for my poor translation, any help from native Japanese members would be much appreciated! ;)

Also can anyone confirm, if they have used this brand before, or managed to find confirmation on this, are their products made in Japan?

Many thanks!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] reventon_703:
Update: CRYSTAL ARMOR for Xperia Z1

Update

Correction to some of the facts I mentioned earlier.

Cutting for Proximity Sensor: Yes

Cutting for Camera: Yes

Cutting for Camera LED: No

Price

3675YEN (Front ONLY) ~= 27.18EURO ~= 38.31CAD (Exchange rates as of 17th November 2013, courtesy of Google)

3675YEN (Back ONLY) ~= 27.18EURO ~= 38.31CAD

6300YEN (BOTH Front and Back) ~= 46.61EURO ~= 65.59CAD
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] :
Hi everyone.

I asked Sony for a clear explanation on the ASF and the warranty concerns that we have. I tried looking through but couldn't see if anoyne else got an official reply from them but here's what they told me in an email:

For us as customers the key point is that our Z1 is still protected by the warranty after removing the ASF as long as we don't claim cosmetic or physical damage on the display that we have removed the film from. It might be a nice idea to add this in the OP as this is what their support department told me and it's how they treat the warranty regarding the ASF.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] :
I completely understand and also agree with what you stated. I did however think that it's a good idea to bring out the response I got into public... but you are right, it might be dependent on the country, person working at the support or a number of other reasonings.

I read on another forum (not XDA and not english) about a similar reply and it does make sense that Sony void any warranty regarding the screen after removing the ASF but stick to the warranty in other non ASF or screen related problems. I opted to let my ASF stay on and installed a temporary plastic protector on top of it until I get my tempered one (thanks to your thread!). Above all I really wish that Sony would either bundle a display cover with the device or tell future buyers about the scratch vulnerability within their marketing, packaging or the selling communications of the Z1. I was lucky enough to be an old-time member at XDA and read about these issues beforehand but many others haven't been so lucky.

Edit:

You could perhaps just add a sentence saying that it is most probable that removing the ASF will void the warranty of the display but not the rest of the device and then add a disclaimer about the comment being from a representative of the customer support and not necessarily being 100% applicable in all circumstances or countries.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Thraxzzz:
Waiting for my spigen glas.tr to arrive for the z1,will upload pics soon

Sent by voldermort's nose