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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sjknight413:
I have been too.

The kernel itself is excellent but the battery life has never been that great for me. I think it's down to the elementalX governor maybe needing tweaking or mpdecision replaced with a custom solution as if you check your CPU time in state stats the majority of, and I mean nearly all, screen on time is dominated by 1267mhz due to touchboosting. 300mhz is barely used which is worrying.

For comparison, on Franco or hybrid 300mhz is used the most by a large margin for me with 1190mhz second and 2265mhz about half of the total 1190mhz time. This is all with roughly the same usage, I'll consistently get about an hour extra screen on time on both these kernels over elementalx.

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
I guess it depends on how you use your phone. For my usage, EX beats the others while maintaining smoothness. I could make the battery last longer, but it's designed for balance. It's meant to last a day and be enjoyable to use. For me, battery life is only one consideration, not the primary goal.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Jax Teller:
And that's why we love ElementalX kernel, because it will never sacrifice performance for battery.?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] NoobieExtraordinare:
Fair enough. But the point I'm making is that on 5.01 the battery life is far worse than on 4.4. My usage hasn't really changed. I could easily get 5 hours of onscreen time on 4.4. Barely break 3.5 now. Rate of drain is higher per hour as reported by battery monitor.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chazall1:


I switched from franco to test Ex. I am experiencing the same issues with battery life. Battery showing Hours 4 left instead of 28 hours with light use.

---------- Post added at 07:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 PM ----------

I am going to let everything settle in a day or two. I have installed the Ex apk, and I have set the kernel into Powersave Mode. My battery life seems to show improvement.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
What kernel did you flash before ElementalX?

If you flashed ElementalX over Franco that would mix the ramdisk customization of the two kernels.

It's tricky flashing a custom kernel that uses the anykernel installation method on a ROM that already includes a custom kernel since in addition to the ramdisk mods there can be scripts and kernel objects installed that may not be deleted by the installation of the new kernel. Some kernels rename or delete mpdecision and/or thermald which can significantly affect battery life and performance if the new kernel doesn't reverse that or assume those functions.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] crian:
Does ex 2.05 support the new battery led function in the ex app?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BirchBarlow:
Why not just install 2.05?

Did you flash ElementalX over Franco? If so, it's guaranteed that you'll have issues. You need to flash the stock kernel before flashing ElementalX.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
No, gboost is part of elementalx governor, it's only possible to enable it when using elementalx governor. It's a bit awkward fitting it in, I have to rethink the way the installer is organized.

That was probably just some isolated thing from flashing different stuff.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
If we switch on the temperature throttle which area will be affected on the performance. Have anyone tried it yet. How is it doing.

Nexus 5, Cataclysm, ElementalX 0.18
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anthonyp326:
This is what I get when I'm using it..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
I guess my phone is cool without switching it on getting good battery too. Performance is something I don't want to loss. Thanks for the info.

Nexus 5, Cataclysm, ElementalX 0.18
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anthonyp326:
Performance is great..no lag ..but I don't play games.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
Nice to hear that. I am not a much gamer too but I run ondemand/ondemand .performance and battery life has been very consistent for my use. Same on 0.18 so far. Gone keep this settings unless I find something not right. Thanks [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] ?

Nexus 5, Cataclysm, ElementalX 0.18
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anthonyp326:
What r u getting for battery life..as u can see I don't use WiFi much mainly LTE.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jlevy73:
For battery life, I find this thread to be very useful. Might be a good read.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1433309
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AhmedFaiz:
Getting consistent sot of 5± hrs on 3g 70% and WiFi 30% mostly. Performance is really smooth through out the system.

Nexus 5, Cataclysm, ElementalX 0.18
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] letmedanz:
Thanks for the link.. informative..

Have run out of 'thanks' for the day :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jlevy73:
Gaming will be most affected. Once the temp reaches a pre-defined number, the CPU down clocks to lower the temperature. The advantage is a cooler device the disadvantage is FPS drops when playing games like Asphalt 8 or RR3, etc.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anthonyp326:
Playing RR3 with no lag.. So far so good
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jlevy73:
Try beach buggy blitz if you have that game installed. That one is notorious for FPS drops. Will try it later, and report back myself.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EagleEye92:
Using 18. Before I went to sleep had 19% battery After about 10 hours sleep still 19! :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] CyberScopes:
This kernel is awesome, but a question, is there a way to have voltage control for all cpu frequencies in the future? Sorry if this question has already been answered.

Sent from my GN5 [D821]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] -Loom-:
I use this kernel mainly because of the Double-Tap-to-Wake function.

However, it's not very realiable. While Sweep-to Wake works every time, Touble-Tap works only sometimes, like every third try or so.

Strangely, if I quickly tap three times, it works all the time. It's like the first tap isn't recognized every now and then.

This happens with other kernel and Touch-Control aswell, so it's doesn't seem limited to this kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tom540:
Just use trickster mod, or another kernel control app
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ItzMar:
Same here,

I appreciate the attempt to refine the dt2w function. But it isnt as reliable as earlier itterations.

Can it be reverted back to the old version for the moment?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] -Loom-:
I had these problems before the last modification aswell. It never seems to work 100% reliable.

Well, for the moment I can live with the triple-tap ...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
I find exactly the opposite, it works too easily and the screen would come on just from picking it up.

How are you tapping the screen? You have to do it with one finger ( or thumb) and both taps have to be in the same spot. If your hand is touching some other part of the screen, or the touches are not close enough together, it will be canceled.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
Ideally, you should "fastboot flash" the boot.img from the zip file for whatever ROM is installed, so that any changes to the ramdisk that the ROM developer might have made are retained. But that won't work if the ROM's default boot.img already contains ramdisk changes for another custom kernel so in that case the stock boot.img from the Google factory image is the next best thing and any ramdisk changes the ROM developer made will be lost.

Where did you get an .apk for the ElementalX app?

AFAIK the app is only available from the Play Store and there's no free version on XDA like some other apps.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] darn5566:
Hello everyone! Just asking is there any way to disable backup file of elementalX? It creates itself every time I reboot. Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
U have heard about that google search huh?

Via my NeXus™ 7FHD on XDA Premium app
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sjknight413:
Oh yes of course! Everybody's usage is different and I was by no means bashing your kernel or deterring anyone from using it, just reporting results. The smoothness you get from EX is currently unbeatable :)

So you pirated it?

I think everybody here would appreciate it if you left this thread and never, ever returned.

What an immoral thing to do after somebody has poured hours into both app and kernel, what's worse is that you not only pirated the app but you came here and told the dev himself that you did.

You moron.

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vickyjusme:
Pirating apps is bad for the developers. I am sure you have tried the app now. I think it is a valid contribution you can make by purchasing the app and supporting the developer who is the creator of the app and this amazing kernel. It is worth it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Well, let's not let the thread get ugly. Could be the original guy mis-spoke...coby though should definitely be reported. Let's leave it at that eh? ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nednednerb:
Flash stock kernel.

Most apps or kernels use files in their operation. In fact, I don't know any that don't? Would you rather this file be in your system partition? How would you use the back up file then? If you don't want to use the file, does it bother you?

It COULD go into a folder on the internal storage and then you'd not lose it when you reflash your ROM..or see the file in your SD folder. Because you obviously see lots of folders randomly named, but you want to "clean up" the root folder? Um? That would be a neurosis. I would suggest get over it because this is the way Android works. Files and folders get put on the SD almost always according the developer, unless it's a download location......

CAN YOU create a tasker or other schedule profile to delete the sd file 2 minutes after boot? (I'm not sure, I'm really asking).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] peikojose:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] Hi, I have been using your apps since it was on beta (excellent BTW), but I want to know if it is possible that you check the compability with all the popular kernels ( I suposse for N5 and N6) (Franco,code blue,hells,uber,etc). I know the main objective of your app is controlling your kernel but the ability of managing another kernel is a plus. Sometimes I am testing battery drain, performance between kernels and it is a pain having to install and uninstall each app for each kernel. Just for example, testing with uber I cannot change the temp threshold.

I don't mean to be rude, it is just a humble suggestion, I am thinking in your app.

Best regards.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Yes, don't pirate the app. I have code that can track and detect pirated installs, but I have not included it out of respect for people's privacy, even if they are pirating. If I hear more about pirating, I might add code to get anonymous info about the extent of pirating. I could also get non-anonymous info if I wanted to. Or nuke pirated installs. Actually, since the app has root, I could nuke the whole phone. I'm joking, I would never do that. But the people who crack apps might do something like that, or make you part of a bot net or something. Regardless of piracy, I just want to make it clear that you are really taking a huge risk using a cracked app that has root privileges on a device with tons of your personal information.

It's mostly compatible with other kernels. I'm going to add a bit more stuff in the coming weeks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AA1973:
+1 for remote wipe in such a case ? ?

/JK

Bought your app some time ago and enjoying it ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Wow.. Just becuz I said google means I'm a pirate.. Ok watever lol.. I don't even? Have elementalx app I flash using twrp

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] rhamej:
Ya, not sure where they got that from. It didn't even cross my mind that you meant to Google a pirated app. I just assumed you meant, "Do a search for it.

MOD EDIT: No use of swear words please
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Not directed at you personally [MENTION=4916017]cobyman7035[/MENTION]

I have no idea if the app has really been cracked or not, but a few people sent me PMs saying there is a patched apk floating around. It's inevitable that everything will be cracked at some point. More of a warning to everyone about the risks, in case it is true.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
I'm not sure what your point was in suggesting a Google search if you didn't mean to look for a cracked apk since information about the ElementalX app is readily available via the link for the kernel download but it seems you have the benefit of the doubt, at least from some users, for the time being.

I purchased the app when it was still in beta and wouldn't even consider taking the risks involved in using pirated software and anyone who does should not be active on XDA since that's an insult to all the developers that share their work here.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
Except he was responding to my post asking another user where he found an apk since I already know how to find it in the Play Store and specifically mentioned that AFAIK there is no free version available. :rolleyes:

You don't need to use Google to search for apps that are in the Play Store.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Well, I think we've done this line of conversation to death...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nicolae-Daniel:
Sorry about the off topic question. [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] amazing work,amazing! where do you find the time man? :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Lancez:
I've seen pirated/cracked EX app floating around some foreign forums. It was nice of you that you haven't added tracking/detection code yet. But we're not worried about your code (at least me), coz if you wanted to do something you could've done it already! lol. I think it's better to add code to your next update and start protecting yourself. It's your hard earned $$$ we are talking about after all!

I can provide you the link of cracked EX app if you want to take a look of it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
On the bus to and from work, and at night while I should be sleeping.

I can't spend a lot of time worrying about pirates. They're always going to be out there and I don't want to add code that unintentionally causes trouble for legit users.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Well, luckily some of us actually want to reward you for your time and effort, so you have that!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sherlock5545:
Yup, don't worry too much. There are also many people who appreciate your amazing work and help you out by buying the app. I personally didn't need it, but still bought it to support you. Now I'm loving the app for the additional versatility to the kernel. Keep it up ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chazall1:
Got everything figured out. I should have flashing the stock boot.img file from the 5.01 factory image via fastboot after flashing the Cataclysm ROM and before flashing this kernel. That reset the ramdisk to the stock defaults.

Yes I Purchased the ElementalX apk from the play store. Beer and flashing sometimes have bad outcomes. LOL So far I am running very smooth and bat life is great.

Thanks for your assistance.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BirchBarlow:
If I were you and I found out people were pirating my app, the pirate users would be visited by a couple burly gentlemen with baseball bats and let's just say they'd have quite a hefty vig to pay if they wanted to keep their kneecaps :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] till22:
Since we're already talking about the topic, could you (or anyone else, for that matter) tell me the options I have to buy the app? I do not have a credit card and can't buy Google credit in the stores since I live in Argentina. Is it possible to do it some other way?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
You can buy a Google Play gift card with BitCoin here. The BitCoin can be purchased with a direct debit from a checking account and the code received is for the US version of the Play Store. You can find more info here.

There are probably other sites on the web that offer similar services but that's the first one I found.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
I was just playing AC Black Flag and stopped to check up on XDA a bit. Funny that I checked this thread first.

[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] Don't sweat it much man. 99% of us here value your work and where more than happy to pony up some cash for it. For what it's worth I'm going back to Black Flag now(a legal copy btw) and I'll kill some pirates just for you.:laugh::cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
If nothing else [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] is now sure that his app is being pirated given that someone offered to give him the link to the download for the hacked version. Everyone who has spoken out against pirating of the ElementalX app has done it in the spirit of XDA which is to respect and support the developers that share their stuff here. And for those users reading this thread, whether actively participating or lurking, it may have made them a little more aware of the problems with pirating apps for both the users that do it and the developers.

IMO the posts on the last three pages discussed a real problem, not speculation about something that might happen in the future, and that might be worth something to [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] but he's the only one that can judge that. And the expressions of support mixed in would be welcomed by any developer.

Did we miss something important as a result of that discussion? And why is wanting the developer of this kernel, and a great app to manage it, to get what he rightly deserves off topic?

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] akenis:
I'm still getting weird changes to kernel settings after low battery mode is entered. Many times my vibrate does not go back to where I had it. Today I noticed my CPU was set at the reduced frequency still, cooler colors was enabled and so was dimmer screen. (On Aroma install, I use default CPU and have disabled the later two since LP).

I just cleared settings from advanced menu and did a fresh Aroma install. I assume this will rewrite the config file (the one we used to edit manually) to my preferred values. I also updated my BB.

Question: does the kernel app modify that config file or make changes some other way? Why are my initial options not restored?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] till22:
Thanks :)

Since it's talking so much about being "US Play Store", can I use this in Argentina? My prices are shown in arg. pesos (our valuta). Or do I just use a US proxy?

EDIT: Nevermind, I'll have to check these instructions later on http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/10/redeem-google-play-store-gift-card-outside-usa/
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] honda kos:
Does elemental x kernel app support profiles, like synapse?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] frog67:
When this kernel support automount USB OTG stick ?

Regards
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SWTR:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] Can you please support CM 12 CAF builds?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tmihai20:
I can't stand this fantastic screen off battery usage!!! I've hold off any modifications to my Nexus 5 with 5.0.1 until last night, when I flashed TWRP 2.8.3.0, I rooted it and flashed ElementalX 2.05. Whenever I would hit the 30% battery level, I would think to plug it in so I won't be in a situation where I need my phone and I can't use it because battery is low. [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] has done a good job, I used Franco's kernel on KitKat until now :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] walpurgisnacht30:
It's already there, if it's not working you can simply use StickMount.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] frog67:
Without Stickmount [emoji1]

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] walpurgisnacht30:
Idk, but it's still working for me without StickMount in stock rom or Cataclysm
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Use ES File Manger. the USB option appears in local sidepane appears there.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] frog67:
I use cataclysm and not mount USB stick

Regards
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Delete the cp command at the end of /etc/init.d/99elementalx.sh

Sorry that other guy was swearing at you for trying to help.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Please use the suggestions that were given. The kernel can read these drives, but it's up to userspace to mount them. I have no control over that.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] frog67:
Suggestione to use stickmount ?

My problem is not create USB device
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Yes, stickmount will create it
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] edgardurao:
I've been experienced extreme lag on my nexus 5 with 5.0.1 with latest elementalx kernel. System seems not to free memory, with 1gb to 1,5gb memory not being freed. I reverted to stock kernel and seems the problem disappear since then. Anyone with these problems?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tmihai20:
I don't think it's kernel related. I didn't have the memory leak issue on 5.0, but I experienced it on 5.0.1. It's a bug that happens from time to time and the kernel is not to blame. By rebooting your Nexus you made it disappear. You need to let the phone settle down for a while after flashing ElementalX, I experienced some lag after the first boot, it is normal.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] 1970mueller:
I noticed bad battery drain, and switched my version of gapps. Super battery seems to be back now :) Worth a try, if you are having issues out there....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tmihai20:
I am on stock 5.0.1, I can't change gapps (I don't want to do this anyway). It seems function better now, battery drain is low, as it should be.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bleuxeon:
Don't you think that giving us your "version" of gapps could help?...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
I flashed this kernel now for the 4th time (1st N4 was bad for me, 2nd & 3rd on N5 too) and I'd like to say thaaannkkk you for the great performance and the very loooonng battery life it provides!!

Keep up the good work. Appreciate it a lot ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] wedgess:
Thread cleaned of earlier todays ' carry on. Swearing is not and will not be tolerated on XDA.

Thread cleaned
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
That's fixed in 5.02 . but that's not a ElementalX kernel issue, its a coincidence it went away for you with stock kernel, give it a "second" and it'll come back
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SWTR:
Hmm, with stock Kernel on CM12 I don't have the RAM issue.. After 28h with Elemntalx I only have 300mb free RAM
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I don't think a kernel can cause this . cm is 5.01 or 5.02 . its a known issue with 5.01
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] edgardurao:
The truth is happen a lot of times, and after a reboot and a day it was on the same exaggerated memory consumption.

Notice that I had using elemental since the 5.0.1 has released.

I flashed stock and now with three days no problem detected.

Its just info to feed this info. If some other people experience the same maybe its a bug.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Memory management is completely stock on this kernel. Memory usage is dependent on system and apps anyways, an app or service with a memory leak can eat up your ram.