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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I imagine the difference is negligible but for me I see it as wastage.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
There wasn't any battery difference when i tried this while back ... But I don't play games really either

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Surprized no N6 talk in here . I got one, anyone else ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PainfulLover:
That's because this is nexus 5 thread, not 6.

Captain Obvious is in ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Oh I no were i am ;) thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
Obviously you are in the US because Google (or Motorola?) have forgotten the rest of the world exists [emoji35]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ya I am. I seen that , its bull**** the way there doing it this year , no dates for everyone else ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
Sod all really. Some places *might* let you pre-order by the 18th or maybe 23rd but they could be making things up because no one really knows. It's as bad as the Moto 360 release over here, which makes me think Motorola have no idea what they're doing. You must have a charmed life - you always seem to get an early release of a new device [emoji4]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jumparound246:
They reported that only a handful of people were able to pre order...guess you're the only one here [emoji4]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I think I'm just Lucky , + it helps that I run my own shop .I don't have anyone to tell me get off my phone when I'm checking playstore like a crack head ;P . I think your right about moto , that makes complete sense .

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Ya It wasn't up long at all i no that , I got mine confirmed , went over to tell another guy it was up and it was already sold out . I think they were gone within 3-4 min at most
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gpvecchi:
Sorry, but gboost on=performance or battery?

MPdecison off for me gives performance and battery...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Gboost on "performance". Mpdecision on "performance"

Gboost off "battery".. Mpdecision off "battery"
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gpvecchi:
Sorry, but why performance mode turn MPdecision off?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I do not understand your question
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Still on the fence. Not available in Canada yet, but I heard it will be $750 + shipping and 13% tax. I wish I could buy it in US dollars, but I'd have to pay the government when it comes over the border anyway.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ya it seems Huge! Im going to give it a try for a week , if i dont like it I won't have any problem selling it for what I paid . have you considered a carrier "branded" one ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
Have a friend drive it up from the US. With the currency exchange your still looking at 726 canadian for the 32GB model. You won't end up saving a huge amount but at least enough for a few good beers.:cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
I can never get a subsidized phone, it would mean giving up my super cheap phone plan.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
Deal!!! As long as I get a couple beers out of those savings.

Never been to Canada before so I'm down for a road trip :D

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
It's only about a 7 hour drive from Philly. Hell you could even bring the man a cheese steak or three. I would do it but I'm in Cali so it's just a little out of my way.:cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
I've already done the drive to Cali a couple times, it isn't that far out of the way...

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mo976:
Hey flar2, I just noticed 1.13 is available for download, not to be a PITA but is there a change log available. Thank you!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gpvecchi:
You said MPdecision off=battery, but Ex app has the "Performance" option that turns off MPdecision...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
MPDecision uses battery because when you touch the phone, it sets the MIN frequency to 1267MHz or something. This makes the phone smoother / faster when you touch the screen but also since 1267MHz uses more power than 300MHz, it is obviously using more battery.

IF you are referring to the "Performance" governor, this makes the CPU always run at MAX frequency. If your Max frequency is 2265MHz, what use is having MPDecision boosting CPU to 1267MHz?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Smackeroni:
Where can I disable MPDesicion? Havent seen it during installation. or have I overseen something?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
In the Elemental EX app
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hellsgod:
Its not mpdecision that controls the touch boost. Its a combination of the mpdecision binary and power.msm8974.so. Its a bad idea to deactivate mpdecision go get rid of the touchboost, because you've all 4 cores online constantly when you turn off mpdecision. Just rename power.msm8974.so in /system/lib/hw/ to get rid off the touch boost, but not the core management.

hells
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] techinv:
Been running 1.13 since last night. Responsiveness is definitely a couple of ticks better than 1.12 on my device. Very pleased, as usual.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I turn off mpdecision and delete the PowerHAL as previously mentioned. So no need to do both?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hellsgod:
I wasn't sure if you turn off mpdecision to get rid of the touchboost, because that wouldn't be a good way. But if you don't care about core management its another story ;)

What I still not got is the fact, that you post that as a battery profile. I did some tests in the past and it didn't save any battery to have all 4 cores online all the time. It was not much worse than with core management, but it didn't save anything either. I know in theory every onlining /offlining of a core cost some battery, but with my usage it was a little worse with all cores online.

hells
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] styago:
Hey everyone, I have been reading for many weeks now and I have lost it somewhere where the L-preview appeared. So, can I use this L-preview with for instance Mahdi 2.9 rom? Or is it just usable with L-preview roms? Thanx so much!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jayplusone:
Only for L roms.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] xda890:
Installed v2.0 the other day on my L preview but I have one problem... When I use adb shell and tries to go to /sdcard, I get "Permission denied". Is this specific to EX kernel? By design or? I don't think I had that problem using the other custom L kernel (don't remember from which one, but the one that was not chainfire... :) )
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gverma1:
Am on Android L LPX13D rooted with permissive kernel, elemental x flashed on top and pie patcher flashed. My idle battery drain is 2.2%/hour as compared to about 1%/hour on KitKat. At night my mobile data is always on but not connected as Wi-Fi is always connected, GPS off, Bluetooth off, NFC off.

Are others getting similar results?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] atishey23:
does this kernel have ppp driver support?

I'm asking coz I have to do this- http://xdaforums.com/android/general/how-to-connect-internet-modem-to-t2867388?styleid=19

and if it doesn't have this support then where I can find this?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
All I said was touchboost (via mpdecision) uses more battery - which it does. Significantly in my case

If you delete powerhal, you cannot enable MPdecision. Cores still go offline.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hellsgod:
I don't like qualcomms mpdecision anyway. You simply cannot tune anything to make it better, like reduce the touch boost duration/frequency, change the threshold for onlining and offlining cores or whatsoever... :)

hells
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I do this also, once deleting powerhal. I dont want any touchboost, gboost etc. I set my up thresholds at 99
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dies_zabulus:
My Nexus interrupts call when the time limit is reached, to disable dt2w. I place 3 minutes after that phone call interrupts after 3 minutes when the display was off.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] giosaxda:
Changelog for 1.12 please
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SWTR:
I think flar2 is sleeping now.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
Developers don't sleep, its just mental coding with our eyes closed

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
1.13 is available at elementalx site. Am i the first one to observe this :o
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SWTR:
No. :b
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
I managed to sleep from 2am to 7am, and very busy at work since then.

Here is 1.13, the last release for KitKat. The only change is reverting the f2fs backports. That's why I wasn't too quick to post here, as it only affects a small number of users.

Another Lollipop update will come soon, I haven't had a chance to investigate the security situation fully. I want to do some experiments.

It will be ready for Nov 3rd for sure.

Download:

ElementalX-N5-1.13 (all versions)

Changes:

-revert F2FS backports
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
Fixed it for you :p

You got more then me though :(

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
Does that mean this version doesn't support F2FS? I downloaded this time just to test f2fs for the first time :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
No, it means that it has the older version of F2FS that doesn't cause problems.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ramjet73:
Is f2fs worth the bother in your opinion?

I'm running the 2.0 L kernel and your new tweaking app with the [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] B17 ROM and very happy with that combination, but will give f2fs a try if you think it's worth the time and effort.

And what's a good f2fs compatible kernel to flash yours over?

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
I've come to the conclusion that it is a headache since it isn't widely adopted yet

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] giosaxda:
I'm on 1.11 now shall I update to 1.13?

Did it revert update in 1.11 or 1.12?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
The f2fs update was in v1.12 I think.

You should do the update if you use doubletap2wake or sweep2wake and have the ElementalX app and have it set to automatically enable powersave mode on low battery.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
No idea, I've never tried it. I keep my devices pretty close to stock. I need a stable and predictable base for development.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
Don't worry, I'm all about breaking things, just ask [MENTION=647113]hellsgod[/MENTION] :p

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hellsgod:
Hahaha, good one :p

hells
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] stankyou:
Not sure if placebo but did the stock "slightly cooler color" got tweaked? It seems cooler to me or I've been on my laptop for far too long.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Hehe[emoji12]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pspuser007:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]:

Could you please update the changelogs post?

Thank you :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] notbrodie:
v1.13 seems to have fixed the issue with f2fs and sensors. thanks, flar2!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] donnabelmartie:
Really, really hoping for the continuous development for the nexus 5 from this amazing dev! Never used any kernel on my n5 but this one only. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gverma1:
I post this (above) and tonight I got 0.3%/hour overnight. :confused:

The only thing I did before putting the phone down was to swipe out all the recent tasks.

Good for now, I guess.:good:

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I don't think flar2 is stopping support for N5. He just said that 1.13 would be the last kernel for KitKat. His newer releases will be for Lollipop now.

However, if he buys an N6, then it could be a different story altogether which I don't want to delve into.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
All the kernel devs are saying final kk versions cause they are getting ready for L

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cavedano8:
Anyone have problem with elementalx's installation?

My configuration: b17(sykopompos) + hells.

My steps: Reboot in recovery (CWM), flash sykopompos kernel, flash superSU, normal reboot, reboot in recovery and flash elementalx

but..

is blocked in Aroma welcome page and with pressing "next" nothing happen

thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] uylmz:
I am very happy to support this project. Thank you [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] and all others who support ElementalX.

With [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION], [MENTION=3332811]faux123[/MENTION] and AOSP Kernel (all up the date) i always have random reboots and freezes. The only thing i imagine is bigger catlog files can cause these reboots, lags, freezes, because i believe when it gets bigger and bigger by the error message "PowerHAL( ): touch_boost: failed to send: No such file or directory" , it freezes system, this is my theory and i don't want to direct you on wrong way because there isn't anything extraordinary thing i suspect except this one. The only way how i can handle this error message and random reboots was enabling boost feature of governors, if there is any. But at this point, one of the CPU's core stay always active so this isn't a brilliant solution. In elementalx i don't need to boost anything.

On my phone, nexus 5 with same applications installed, same settings and with all defaults values of kernels untouched (governor, i/o, minfree etc..) there are no reboots with only ElementalX the others all cause this reboot. So it is obvious that the cause is about kernel "not governors, not i/os, hotplugs, not applications etc..) because i also played with settings a lot and tried every governor of [MENTION=3332811]faux123[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] with their own applications. Also i use several kernel tweakers like free-paid kernel tweakers, on boot kernel tweakers like elementalx, of course without a success. My question is what is kernel line of this error? What is your guess? Why this happens with others except ElementalX? What is the secret formula?

I support [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] and ElementalX and surely i am going to continue to support it with also buying elementalx application even i have lots of paid kernel applications.

Thank you [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] and others, you may see me here more than enough. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mrro82:
Try reflashing the rom then elemental.

Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
And this is good. Lollipop is in my eyes the best that Google ever done. I am really surprised how good Lollipop is :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] techinv:
+100 on this!! I upgrade without any worry and the quality just keeps getting better!! Flar, please stay with this.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yanleites:
Try to flash stock kernel, then this one.

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Try to flash stock kernel, then this one.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cavedano8:
I flash this https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655048458, then normal reboot, then reboot in recovery and flash elemental. right?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yanleites:
I usually do it with "http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/" - Nexus Root Toolkit v1.9.3
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Ne need to reboot
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cavedano8:
aroma is stuck on the welcome page and is not possible press "Next"
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobloadmire:
I saw 1.13 was released but the app is still saying 1.12 is the latest for me. Anyone know what's up?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] magnamentis:
something is up

same here, i have 1.13 installed but the app says 1.12 is last and did not update

further the app says there is an update and then it downloads 1.12 albeit i have 1.13 installed

as soon as i update the app from the playstore it will not reopen again, says app cannot be opened, when i go back to

the last version of the app via nandroid and/or via extracted apk all works well.

once the app was working (newest) until i wanted to reboot, after reboot the settings were set ( cooler colors proof that visibly ) but the

latest app version would not open, albeit it was open before i performed the nandroid.

a bit weird, i'm working on it all day already but was waiting until someone else has at least one of the issues ( showing 1.12 as latest )

so not to cause an issue which might be on my side. in the meantime i'm sure it's not because i nandroided back many times and

started the process again and whenever i install the latest app it would not open, latest after first reboot. by the way it does not FC (unfort. quit )

nono... it says the app cannot be opened

i'm still trying to make it work, going back right now to 25th october nandroid and go from there, let's see :)

EDIT1: just updated the app on the 25th october nandroid, same thing "Couldn't launch app, please contact us with error information" (that's the exact phrase )

EDIT2: screen shot shows what is installed, what is shown as latest and that albeit the real latest is installed and the false latest would be older it still says there

is an update. of course i downloaded that update and indeed it downloads version 1.12 instead of 1.13 (real latest) weird
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
The upload for the CM/CAF version must have failed, I'll try again tonight. I have a very bad internet connection and uploading new kernels is always an ordeal. If ever the latest version is not showing in the app, it's a problem with me uploading the new version, the app simply reads the contents of a file on my server to find the latest version.

As for the second problem of opening the app, I'm not sure what they could be. I've never seen a message like that. Uninstall it and install from the playstore.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
CM/CAF 1.13 should be there now, I uploaded it from my phone.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] magnamentis:
Edits 3 + 4 + 5

@

thanks for taking care :)

i did that uninstall/re-install several times, same result.

the good part is: as to problem with versions, installed cm11 stock without EX, deleted app data and every file i found manually, uninstalled EX and installed second last version from extracted APK, started the app and downloaded pseudo latest version 1.12, flashed rom + kernel like always and all was well up to that point. then i checked for updates and "BINGO" there was 1.13 ( perhaps you could upload in the mean time or it was something else ) however i was able to flash rom+kernel again with version 1.13 and all works well.

next step after writing this will be ( currently making a nandroid of the last working state again ) to update the app again from playstore.

i'll keep you current (soon) about how it went. if the message pops up again i'll try to produce proof and logs so to narrow things further down, otherwise it will be over :) ( solved )

EDIT4: Not solved Screenshot attached

- one shot shows that app showing the correct versions, available as well as installed so that got settled

- one shot shows the app version after updating from playstore

- one shot shows the errormessage when trying to open the app after it got updated from playstore

EDIT5: it's quite some time that i performed a format>wipe>all from scratch clean install so before hunting ghosts here ( must be userspace otherwise more people would have this ) i will gonna perform a long overdue super cleany and let you know how it went afterwords. so i propose just standby and wait for results before wasting time unnecessarily :) wish me luck
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] fkloznica:
I see that nexus 6 is rocking kernel version 3.10.. What about nexus 5 ? :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Elluel:
What does 3.10 mean to you?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
It means it has a higher number then mine so I must have it!!!!

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] magnamentis:
update

[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

update on the matter ( as short as possible haha... you know me )

a) clean installed, formatted everything, went from scratch all works perfectly well like before

b) a little heads up on the matter ( what it was )

after i got everything back running as it should i could not resist to nand back to faulty version to see what could have been the cause.

in short. the app was open while it was updated from the playstore, which alone usually doesn't cause any issues, but in this case, as the logs showed me, the shortcut was broken. what i mean here is the specific shortcut in "swapps" which is an app drawer on my left from where i usually open some level 2 apps, while level 1 apps are on the desktob and level 3 apps in the drawer of the launcher. for leve 4 apps i'm using a shortcut to app manager in rom toolbox pro so that's how things are structured.

to make it easier to understand i attached a screenshot with the config and the shortcut which was broken at random ( typical hickup, not possible to reproduce )
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chriskoups:
Hello... i am using elementalx -2.00 and i have a question about cpu frequencies.

i am trying to set the frequencies from files not any programme... does anyone know what file i have to check?

i check etc/elementalx.config but that one have only standard settings...

i would like to set minimum cpu freq in 300mhz...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
LMAO.

My wife is 5'9 and ways 125 pounds.

Your wife is 5'9 and ways 185 pounds.

Sometimes you don't always want the higher number.

Or maybe you do.:rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sykopompos:
I never said I wanted to keep it, just have it

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobloadmire:
Thanks. Quick note, your change log on the app is also a few versions behind.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] notbrodie:
the minimum cpu freq is already 300. the only place you should be messing with cpu freqs is the installer, when you set the maximum.

whatever program you are using to check the cpu freq is wrong. use something like system monitor and you will see that after a couple seconds without touching the screen, the min freq drops back to 300.

this has been discussed ad nauseum.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] uylmz:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

Also it happens when i pause and resume tracks . I have some really bad recorded podcasts, i need to listen those podcasts, power amp helps me to clear the sound a lot with also headphone gain and some EQ settings. If i use headphone to listen those podcasts poweramp drops to 1 if i don't use it drops the 2. At the end it doenst stay steady even if i set gain lock with 1.13.

What app you use to control sound? I use tricster's sound control but also heard this happens with faux sound control, i guess viper4android is discontinued, right?