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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] WatsonDue:
Thanks for coming back flar2. I'll buy the new app as soon as it will hit the Play Store.:good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] FuMMoD:
It's moments like these that really make me proud to be a part of this community. [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] I'll continue buying your apps as fast as you churn them out regardless of my needing them or not. [MENTION=5008415]C3C076[/MENTION] Good looking out ???
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Hey [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], you've been quoted enough here :) But glad to hear you've decided to continue development. On the slightly selfish side I was worried because I literally had no idea what kernel app combo I would use if you decided to discontinue your kernel/app development. The bigger part of me is happy knowing that you decided to take it in stride and continue with your efforts . I'm sure as is the same with many other's, I have treid A LOT of kernels and apps over the years and your's definitely hits the sweet spot, not just on the N5, but also on the N6 and N7. I think that's a testament to the quality of your work and the time and thought you've put into both.

On a different note, would it still be better to try to resubmit a new app through the goog appeals process? I mean would it be better to still try to get that first decision reversed? Thinking about it, if you let that first strike stand without trying to get it reversed again then you still have the one strike against you. Would it be better to try for a re-appeal first after your redesigned app is ready and then if that falls through for whatever reason then publish it as new? Just some thoughts. Either way, glad you are continuing to develop...and the wife is at least sometimes right :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] rhamej:
If all else fails, publish it in the amazon store. Either way, I'll buy it again if I have too.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Traxex_:
I'm already waiting to buy your app again too :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nunoleite46:
Good to have you back. I'll buy the new application again. thank you for become my Nexus an incredible phone.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Wh1t3Rose:
No. Just no. So [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] is already losing revenue because his app was taken off the store. And he will continue to lose revenue simply because his app will not be on the biggest app store on Android for a while. Then you want the app at a reduced price? Seriously?

Cough up $2.50 like most people can or use a different app. I don't think $2.50 is unreasonable. Many people donate that amount with nothing in return
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mrro82:
I'll buy it again for sure. Glad you're sticking with it flar. My phone wouldn't be the same without your awesome kernel on it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ieatnoobs:
You know what [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] you're app was one of the very first apps that I felt was really worth the money. I bought it before and will buy it again no questions asked. You're part of the very few devs here who is actively supporting users and I am more than happy to support a dev such as yourself.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Hey [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] :) Just read an article that you might be interested in. Sounds like you could possibly integrate this technique into helping your app spread http://www.talkandroid.com/245441-a...Android+-+Android+News,+Rumours,+and+Updates)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] rigattoni:
There is no question for me to buy your great app again...

So please keep on with your great work on this app. I appreciate the great help and advocacy from all over the world in this thread. :good: :highfive:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SpasilliumNexus:
Add me to the list of people who would wouldn't hesitate to buy the app again.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lparcshinoda:
I'm sorry [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] but I really don't think that I should buy again an app to which I have already paid. In the past I've done donations for apps that was totally renewed without charging the people with a new license (Nova Launcher is one of the latest) so I think that this behavior is pretty unfair and disrespectful for your users.

It's not that you don't deserve more money, but in this way we are constrained to give you more. Definitively don't like this. I'll ask for a REFUND when the new apk will be online.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] #sharath:
You don't have to buy again, existing license will work.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lparcshinoda:
that's not what he said
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Edo 91:
Probably you don't understand that i have already bought the flar2's app instead of using other kernel manager beacause i like his kernel and i want to support him, simply i don't understand why i have to buy an app that i have already bought 2.xx euro ( i don't remember ) for an app that i have already bought, seriously?

i understand that was not flar2 fault but nor mine, if i want i will donate in future :good:

i don't understand as you, i hope so...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sherlock5545:
He said the current app will continue working as normal for those who really bought it before. The new app will have new features and a fresh design, and for that you need to buy it.

I suppose this means the current app is EOL, so no more updates.

And by the way, you can't blame it on [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], Google took another unexpected action regardless of the author's compliance with their new regulations. You should be pissed at them. You'd have done the same in his shoes.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lparcshinoda:
It's not a new app, it's a major upgrade of an existing app that I already payed. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Edo 91:
Oh sure sounds me perfect, I bought the app since it was beta, now you are telling me that the app won't be no more on Google play, at end of life and I need to buy the new only for the fresh design? What if it gets suspended for a second time? I should buy it for the third? It's complete nonsense... I'll accept buy it at a discount price for a limited period for the "fresh design" because I know it's not his fault, but buy it again no. I don't have nothing on flar2 but the reasoning it's pointless
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lparcshinoda:
Google didn't delete the whole code of the app, [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] still owns his work and what we payed for. The upgrade that he is working on is part of what we already payed. I understand that getting the app removed from playstore is sh!t and it's not flar2's fault, but the decision of letting old users buy again the license is, indeed, his choice and (in my opinion) fault. That's my point
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sherlock5545:
It was your choice to buy an app that, you know yourself, does all the things Google doesn't support directly. Yes, any app with root is at Google's mercy. What if tomorrow, Google adds regulations to rid the Play Store of root apps? All superuser level apps you bought would be inaccessible. You would lose your money too. And it's your fault, because you knowingly bought apps that are unstable inside a store at someone else's mercy. Next time, don't buy and use free alternatives that won't cause you losses.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lparcshinoda:
So it's our fault. Good, we'll think twice before buying apps like the one [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] developed. Or like the ones that the whole XDA community is developing and is giving away for money. So this community should close, because it's just our fault :D

I'm sorry but your statement is very stupid and I think you are just scrambling here.

We have said too much, and I think that before being in serious offtopic and hard flaming, we should leave comments and decisions to [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] alone. I've fairly explained my reasons and what I think of this matter.

Anyway I really like and appreciate flar2's work - the kernel and the app.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ben36:
I remember.... Back in the day... This was a kernel thread...

Sent via tapatalk from my cataclysm'd Lollipooop Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sherlock5545:
You simply don't want to get it, so let's leave it at that. What I said is that this type of apps are on the edge of a thin line. It's your choice to risk it. No one forced you to buy anything.

It just means you have no right to complain when something like this happens. There is, so far, no way to honour a free version through the Play Store for those who bought it before the removal. But you can still use it as is for now.

As I said already, I have no problem at paying another couple of bucks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Edo 91:
I do not share your thoughts and are taking me inevitably in one direction, why should I pay for the second time for an app that is against the Google policies?

Google damaged him but I'm indirectly damaged by this situation

The way I think he could meet the needs of the user but as I see you all are willing to buy it again, lucky you!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] miesa:
I'd gladly buy the new app as a show of support. We're with you man. Thanks for contributing to the community all this while.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] prabhu_91:
Some thoughts

I live in a country where dollar to local currency conversion rate is pretty high, hence the app was priced on expensive side. Nevertheless, being a engg(electronics) student, i saved up my money...got a debit card with international access...then set up entropay to buy paid apps in play store.

The first thing i did was to purchase [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] app. Just because it was the easiest way for me to donate him. If I can do that, why not everybody else. JFYI my monthly allowance is Rupees 1500, and flar's app was Rupees 300 here.

You bought a 300$ device and can't cough up 2.5$ twice. Great :good:

It's sad to read some negative responses on flar2's decision.

My only request to [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] is to release the next build( whenever you do) without any custom toolchain..just simple gcc4.7/4.8, beacuse i remember you said sometime ago that you didn't notice any diff by using gcc on internal build.

Cheers :o
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] andip71:
I have to say, Google really pissed me off around one year ago when they without any pre-warning took my app out of the play store.

They were not even telling me why this time, so I had to find out myself it was due to the Stericson root framework which I used. Google virus scanners did consider that to be malicious.

But the worst was, I asked them two times about the reasons. And two times they responded with a standard email threatining me they will close down my complete account if I do not shut up (which means I would have lost hundreds of Euros I paid for apps).

I replaced the framework by my own finally, and this passed then security checks of 54 virus scanning engines.

But Google was not willing to put the app on again.

That was the final reason why I decided to:

market my app myself and put an auto-update mechanism in

replace my donation app system with a email/code pair concept

keep the donation apps in the store (where one out of three has been killed again by Google a few months ago without any conclusive reasons) and make them just an enabler to receive the keys

By doing that, I am now completely disconnected from Google. If one day they ban all my apps without valid reason, I will just laugh about them.

It is absolutely not acceptable behaviour by big G. At least they earn 30% of every payment done on play store. And for what? For nothing!

I decided to not support them anymore. And now I get donations via paypal from users, Google does not earn a single cent with me anymore.

Finally I have to say, it complicated my life for a few months (and still does slightly as I need to create the keys myself after checking all is valid), but it was worth it.

F***k Google (sorry, had to say that).

Andi
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nmlssit:
+1

[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] do that too!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] HoochieCoo:
The entire app concept is broken. Under both Googles and Apples system a user buys an app once and it's good for life on every device they have. It doesn't matter if the dev spends the next year busting hump to add features... They will only ever receive that initial purchase price.

The dev of Action Launcher just releases a new app for major version changes which requires users to buy again.

In this case, what do you really expect flar to do? Start giving it away for free? He can give out a certain number for free.

I will gladly pay again. Over the life of my 2 Nexus devices I've received far more value from flars work than he got from the few dollars I gave him. Considering the amount of time he's put in it is highly likely he is making far less than he would doing contract work.

The app you bought will continue to work. That is very likely the best he can do. You could be thankful that for a very small price he's made your device more awesome than what LG and Google provided for a lot more (for which you will eventually have to cough up a lot more for the next version).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Edo 91:
This is not the point, it's my money and I spend it like I want, with 2.5€ I prefer take a beer with my friends not buying practically the same app with material design. But already said I'm the only that is against his decision, the problem is mine ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JonesL:
What really pisses me off too, is the fact Google can just pull the app and the end user gets sod all.

Money gone, app gone.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] darkbook4008:
Any suggest to save Battery Life?

Hi guys, I have a Nexus 5 with Android Lollipop 5.1 and I am configuring the kernel parameters (ElementalX-N5-2.11) to save Battery life

These are my kernel parameters, I'll appreciate any suggestion. Thanks :)

Voltage: 725 min Undervolted

CPU Max Freq: 1497Mhz

CPU Min Freq: 300Mhz

CPU Max Freq Screen off: 422Mhz

DT2W/S2W: Disabled

CPU Governor: Conservative

CPU Governor parms:

down_threshold: 40

sampling_rate: 200000

up_threshold: 95

freq_step: 10

sampling_down_factor: 1

GPU Governor: Ondemand

GPU Max Freq: 200Mhz

GPU Min Freq: 200Mhz

GPU Aceleration: true

I/O Scheduler: fiops

readahead: 256

fsync: Enabled

Enable exFat

WiFi scan: 120
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] t3al:
Looks good IMO.

I would personally undervolt the CPU to something like 1900MHz cause otherwise would be too slow
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hanschke:
do you know that you dont need the app for the kernel? The app is a way to donate for his work! do you get the kernel and dont see his work and dont have to pay for it. I hate such people with the I dont want to pay for good work :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JonesL:
If you value battery over basic performance then yes, other wise enjoy the horrid lag

If you have the devs, app set the powersave to 1.7ghz use elementalx also powersave turns off two cores, leave the GPU at least at 320-389

Leave ROW on at least 512kb (since ROW is best for responsiveness), disable fsync, exFat is only if you use a USB stick or something via OTG.

Turn off mobile data, GPS and sync.

Oh leave the screen off freq to at least 900mhz(is it 960? I forget) otherwise you'll be getting a lot of horrid noise if you listen to music with the screen off, since the CPU is too slow

Then turn off powersave when you want maximum performance
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] magnamentis:
speechless albeit your point of view might be a valid free opinion of yours, we're free with our opinions after all, to post this here at this time when it's not even sure that it will be necessary to repurchase which was never his goal and most probably will not be necessary, let me just once more look into the abyss of human egocentric and non-sensitive behavior. entities without soul are not restricted to legal entities obviously. "shake head"

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THIS !!!! didn't even know the whole story but the more we know the more it's clear that that's the way to go. +1 :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Soulfly3:
Quick Opinion here...

Has [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]'s app been worth more than than what you paid for it?

I am going to go out on a limb and say 100x yes. The ability to control your phone the way he has allowed is worth tenfold what you paid, and you know it.

If faced w the decision to pay again, or go without was on the table, what would you choose?

Point is, the situation is very sticky as you can evidently see. The amount of work he puts in each and every day is worth infinitely more than the few dollars you spent.

Personally, I can't even fathom complaining about the situation. Maybe it's my upbringing, or just having a heart... but use some common sense ya'll/
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Lancez:
You can go and have a nice beer with your friends and still use EX kernel with/without his kernel app. It's your decision and I respect that. It was not his intention in the first place, so we all have to deal with it.

Let's just leave it like that, any more arguments will be meaningless and disrespectful to the dev.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ben36:
I'm sorry, this is now a complain about Google thread about possibilities that haven't even happened and probably never will. I think you're in the wrong place for kernel support

Sent via tapatalk from my cataclysm'd Lollipooop Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Woody:
Ok folks. The time has come to get this thread back on track and about the kernel and its uses, parameters and such. We all know that Google is the top of the pyramid and that we all work hard for our monies. If you don't want to spend more money, then don't. If you do, then please do. But we can't let it get to the point of flaming each other over this. It has gone too far at this point and we've had some reports about a few posts in the last 24 hours.

** So from this point, unless [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] has some sort of update to the situation, please keep this thread on-topic and about Elemental Kernel and not the apk (unless you are asking for the copy that he is giving out). **

Hate to get all Mod up in here, but the time has come. Be civil to each other or we are no better than the Big G and Big Red (Oh yes I did!!) taking our totalitarian egos out on each other.

Thread Cleaned
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] roboots21:
I have also been using 3.0 for quite some time. I haven't had a single issue with it so I saw no need to reinstall 2.11.

:)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
I'm using 3.0 as well since it was released. No issues.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Version 3 has some unknown problem, I wouldn't use it.

I think something got screwed up when i was trying to merge hundreds of patches to a clean base. Somewhere there is a line or two of code that is not right.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Just a little clean up. Please try to stay on topic and follow Woody's suggestions above.

Thank you
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
:) Well, so hey flar, your 2.11 kernel has run splendidly with every ROM I have run so far, same as your other kernels for the other devices. Are you planning on changing what can be done with your kernel with the new app release? I guess I'm just interested on your thoughts for the general direction you plan to go. ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
I'm gonna keep doing the same thing I've been doing.

I'll just keep fine tuning and improving whatever I can.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] and313:
Cant wait for 3.0. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sky66high:
Keep Your Calm

And

Carry On!

Thanks for a great kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] CJCord:
I couldnt find an answer to this: Is this Kernel (or will it it be) compatible with hammerheadcaf 12.1 CM builds? (searching for another caf kernel since neobuddy quit) The only refference in the downloadsection is an old version for kitkat.

thanks in advance and have a nice day

CJC
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] LiamAtkins90:
I think it is, I have never tested CM and EX together though, but on the download page it say CM or Stock so I'm guessing it is supported.... Back-up first in case you get stuck at bllt. Just back-up boot... Instead of the whole system :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Primokorn:
You can flash this kernel on CM nightlies for HAMMERHEAD but not for HAMMERHEADCAF
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] procitysam:
I tried using this kernel last night and I couldn't get past my boot animation. I went through the Aroma installer and set some things and finished that, it began to boot, but it never got past the boot animation. When I did this I re-flashed AICP, the second latest build, and everything was fine according to TWRP. Not sure if I did something wrong, does anyone know what else I could try?

Sent from my Nexus 5 on AICP nightlies
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Primokorn:
AICP is based on CAF, isn't it? Did you dirty flash your rom before flashing ElementalX? (if you already had another custom kernel)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] procitysam:
They have hammerhead and hammerheadcaf, I'm using hammerhead builds. I did dirty flash the update (I was updating at the same time) but that failed and **** happened so I had to clean flash. I booted it with stock kernel (CM's kernel with a few changes I believe) then flashed EX, and it didn't boot. I also tried flashing EX before booting the stock kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 5 on AICP nightlies
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] graffix31:
I dont use multi rom anymore since running cataclysm who needs it. 3.0 has been awesome. Thanks for your work. i will def be rebuying the app. least i can do.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Blueblob:
FYI : my app has been removed from my app list (google uninstalls it !)

It's not complain (I don't use it), be sure to have a backup (like Dev said)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Rhydu:
Is there any way I can get Kernel app? I've never used it so I can't install from backup
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Traxex_:
Not at the moment. I'm sure flar2 will figure out a way to offer the app again really, really soon.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EdvinFiku:
Not for now, no at least unless uve purchased it

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You mean flar2 right ? Cuz atlantis is on cataclysm :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Traxex_:
Ah yeah sure sorry [emoji14]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] coffeecore:
Hey guys,

I'm new here, what is the difference between the ''express'' and ''non-express'' version?

:angel:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] #sharath:
non-express version has an aroma installer, you can choose different options while installing.

express version gets installed with default options.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] senisiroycs:
The difference is you can configure the kernel on the aroma installer on "non-express" version the "express" version using default value when flashing on the recovery. :angel:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aavvaallooss:
FAQ #3 in the OP
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Both of these can be changed on the fly so this can easily be checked, and I just did. The color tweak is unaffected by the backlight option.

You can navigate to these sysfs entries and enable/disable:

/sys/module/mdss_dsi/parameters/color_preset

/sys/module/lm3630_bl/parameters/backlight_dimmer

You have to turn the screen on and off for the color tweak to change.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anthonyp326:
They show 1 for colors and N for dimmer