yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] walpurgisnacht30:
Hmmm not sure but everything works fine here ??

Can't give you any screenshot regarding battery life and sot, just flashed unofficial PA with halo then restore my official PA nandroid a minute ago. Rom issue perhaps? ??
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gravedigger76:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

On 4.4.3 stockish ROM elemental .45 or .44 wake gestures do not wake up the screen on N5.

I feel feedback on screen so its registering just not waking up screen. On same kernel going to original swipe to wake wakes up screen no issues. All settings are correct (15). In the app everything is configured to start actions. And like I said when I swipe I feel vibration feedback just screen does not wake up.

Any ideas?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] miguepereira77:
I also experienced some battery drain, it started with 4.4.3 for me ( clean stock img installation + Xposed + modules), but I don't think it's kernel related... It's something with play services, or WiFi in my case, I solved it wiping cache and dalvik in recovery...

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Lancez:
I don't see any problems with .45, it's as good as .44 if it's not better.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] magnamentis:
dito :)

same for cm11 latest nightly, ElemantalX .45, Xposed, etc., more config info is in the signature

by the way this procedure repeats every other number of pages because some still didn't read and come to the conclusion that it's 99.9% not the kernel, and

how to search and map out culprits. it can be quite some work, sometimes takes days to find the evil doers and thus blaming roms and kernels is much easier of course.

since i have quite a few popular devices and reading through all the appropriate threads, they are full full full of such posts with issues and so-called bugs which i and most

others have never seen. i can say that except the re-known bluetooth issue i've had no issues on all devices, be it cataclysm from day 1 or cm11 for the last few months etc.

and never ever with this kernel. only time when i had a battery hog on my n7100 i found out that the culprit was the powerboost when i started the engine of my GTR1400, thus

it was a flaw in the bikes powercontrol for the powerplug which got a little shock upon start and therefore the charging process of the phone went dead for security reasons probably. just to say

because it took me 3 months to find out by excluding one possibility after the other, without ever posting like it's the kernel (agni) or the rom (CM11).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] letmedanz:
Hah.. that's a little 'lucky' mishap then.. if you got the N5 ;)

things are great, this part of town is awesome hehe

welcome!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
.45 has some issues with battery draining. I had maximum 6 hours SOT on .44 and less than 5 on .45.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
That's actually pretty good SOT either way. What ROM are you running? lol
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Change log for 45 from 44

Changes:

-Wake_timeout: revert to old method

-Reduce flicker on screen on

-update installer

u guys talking about 44 is better on battery unless [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] left something out of the changelog ITS THE SAME KERNEL unless u use wake features ( I do and noticed battery is better)

Make sure Google services isn't your issue and your bbox is current

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U can get that SOT with any ROM u just need take control of your phone and dim the screen
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Stock 4.4.3 with ElementalX, updated graphic drivers, M8 dalvik and bionic, automatic brightness, greenifyed a lot of downloaded apps.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Since those drivers are for 4.4.2 KOT49H wouldn't it be downgraded grafic drivers ;P

I'm sure they work great just screwing around ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Dark-Black-71:
As far as I know they did not update them in 4.4.3. :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
YA seems like everything that worked with 4.4.2 works with 4.4.3 .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ReMuSeR:
Guys what rom is best comboo with this amazing kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hooliganx:
it's a personal choice.

for me, SlimRom.

I decided don't change my device because this amazing combo!

Slim is best Rom for my daily use. nothing compare.

Elemental X for me it's a great kernel. solid, fluid, fast, stable...

well... :D :thumbup:

that's it! perfect combo!

N5*SlimKat.5.0.(4.4.2)*El-X.045

*ART*TWRP.2.7.0*0.13
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] neFAST:
Never heard of that. Where do I find them?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
They caused ME more issues than there worth and personally I would wait till they said 4.4.3 but here u go, http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/gpu-drivers-nexus-5-compatible-android-t2629123
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
What timeout do you guys use for s2w? Im testing it for first time...

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I use Default 15 min and power key toggle . I only have the feature turned on while texting or emailing back and forth in conversation, doing it this way ive found no noticed battery loss
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
But with Power key i need an app that turn on screen when receive a notification?

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
IM not sure what u mean .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
For example if im talking in Whatsapp and press the power button...when receive another message cant use s2w...

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Yep exactly unless WhatsApp turns on screen . I use sweep to sleep or double tap to sleep (Gbox ) to shut down screen till conversation is over , then I hit power to shut feature off till next conversation text ... . that's only time I use the feature
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hepi_hape:
What rom you use
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Literally any ROM. I think every ROM is represented by users of elementalX. If that's an exaggeration it's not too far off.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] d1n0x:
Well, there you have it. Don't set the brightness to automatic. It's way too bright and aggressive on the N5 and drains battery A LOT quicker than setting it manually.

Also, why do you use these patches and drivers? The phone is fast enough as is and the patches are not even for our device.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Dark-Black-71:
I don't know, they do the job for me. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hepi_hape:
Soory elemental very suck my battery..

Even i just typing / chat, cpu get locked 1.4GHz, its very not need so fast like that. :(

Be need disable touch boost
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eak1080:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

I was having some SOD's if you could call them that on PS1 and PS2, if you look at the commit message there is similar findings, PS3 has been rock solid so far.

Overall device performance is noticeably faster (no placebo BS).

It is nicer in benchmarks.

The flickering/lagging on the display at certain times and in certain apps is gone. Its buttery just like stock is.

I may try a merge against your source tonight/tomorrow but i agree it might get messy (but the benefits are totally worth it)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobby janow:
Rats! I've been seeing that too. I don't know what it is because it flashes so quickly but it does happen. I thought it was so app that didn't close properly but I started closing recents and it still happened. Not a lot and not bothersome but it does happen. The quality of this kernel and battery life I'm getting more than makes up for a few errant video dyscrasia but perhaps Flar2 can find out what it is on some of our devices if it's kernel related. It might be app related but the only way to check is if we go bone stock and see if it happens. Otherwise too many variables.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] LeoRex:
Stuff like that is almost always, at least partially, kernel related. There might be an app contributing, but the core problem is something pissing off the kernel.

Shame... I've had so many problems with my favorite ROM lately... Kernels, reboots, that I was forced to go ROM-hunting for a stable ROM... Reminds me of when I had my sIII and the kk builds first came out... Which is not a good thing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
100% Stock and gbox have been issue free for months and months I don't miss costom Roms or fishing for stable ones ( there all broken if u compare to stock ) I will never use a costom ROM agn . JMO . if u haven't tried u should :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] LeoRex:
Oh, I have, from time to time. And xposed modules bridge most, not all, of the gap. To be honest, there's a stock room sitting in there, ready to go if needed. But I'd rather go with the ROM with the features baked in, if I can.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I used to be like that but there's just to much chaos with all these ROMs nowadays .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jlevy73:
0.45 has been excellent Flar. battery life is best I've had in a long time. Only change I made is using deadline instead of row and read ahead to 512. Thanks for the great kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pcphobic:
[MENTION=4981636]LeoRex[/MENTION]

Give Carbon ROM a try. I have been using it for awhile now... very stable. Plus it has Delta Updates which is awesome.

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[MENTION=5132409]ReMuSeR[/MENTION]

I am using Carbon ROM. It has been stable. Best part is that it has Delta Updates.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cerberusiscute:
Freaking great kernel! The only reason I left this one for Furnace is because furnace has bi-directional s2w. Buuuuuuutttttt... That is now on this kernel too! Definitely saying with you [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hooliganx:
Oi mates...

have a serious problem with battery drain in El-X.45...

see in the pic... ;)

never ends! 3:45 SOT and 50% left... 16h unplugged....

haha! thanks [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] :thumbup:

SlimRom and El-X are the reason I don't give up my Nexus 5.

thanks!

N5*SlimKat.5.0.(4.4.2)*El-X.045

*ART*TWRP.2.7.0*0.13
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] shadowdevil:
+1 Give Carbon a try i am also skeptic about nightly releases but Carbon is different in all ways its stable and offers great customization..!

Agreed that xposed will offer the same but integration of all the features to a ROM is unique..!

Cheers :highfive:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] oo0:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], is it possible to make timeout for 2wake functions toggle on the beginning and the end of certain period.

i. e. turn Off at 10pm and enable it at 7am.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bariz143:
I got awesome battery life and performance is one of a kind. I beat the z2 and s5 on 3dmark. Keep up the good work
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
I know I shouldn't be griping about this, but ...

Is anyone else having a lot of battery drain with wake gestures on? I'm used to getting at least 5 hours SOT, but with wake gestures enabled, I'm lucky to crack 3 hours. I have Greenify enabled to hibernate most apps, including Facebook, Airdroid, Google Maps, Google Search, and others.

I was expecting more battery drain with wake gestures enabled. But not this much, though. My screen on time's been knocked down to almost half. Is anyone else experiencing this?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jaibar:
I'm with 0.45 over stock 4.4.3 and can't notice difference vs. 0.44.

I installed with everything default in AROMA, but enabled all the sweep2wake stuff, including the wake gestures xposed module.

When I turn on the screen after long time, I check with wakelock detector how the device behaved, and usually I get anything between 85%-95% deep sleep, usually Google Play Services the one thing that stands out disturbing deep sleep (which I don't mind so much)- quite the same as I had with 0.44 and stock kernel@4.4.2 as well.

I don't think I can say I see any substantial difference, even though I'm using the sweep2wake thing, which supposedly drains more battery.

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If you set a timeout range, then if I understand correctly, it will stop itself anyway. So even if you don't use the power button which immediately turns it off- it will only run for additional amount of time supposedly consuming more battery.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BabboDemonio:
It happened to me as well on 0.44 and 0.43 stock rom.. But I don't know, it seemed completely random
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mataempat:
I;m on CM11 with 0.45 with everything at default. With elementalX governor I', seeing choppy graphic in Quadrant benchmark (I know it's a mute point with all the cheating but still). However, when reinstalling the kernel with governor set to ondemand, the graphic is buttery smooth. Any idea why?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Ondemand is a more aggressive governor than elementalX. It's more eager to jump to max CPU.

Not saying what you experience should happen, just hypothesizing why it would happen.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] olivierg13:
Weird battery drain, have you installed anything between your update and this?

I updated yesterday and got an amazing battery life, as on 0.44 (90% after 4 hours, 20% screen for example).

Cheers,

Olivier
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] CRIME INC.:
Pretty sure he's just joking. Read his post, and notice the wink emoji.

sent from my "Rasta" HAMMERHEAD
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] olivierg13:
Hummmm indeed ^^

I missed the irony in this post ^^
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Wow, a lot of complaints lately.

All I can say is everything works great for me on stock and CM, battery life is excellent, performance is good. I've never had graphical glitches or lag or severe battery drain or any problems at all.

Could it be that some of the custom ROMs are screwed up after the update? Or perhaps people are adding too many tweaks?

Second, many times I release a kernel with only one or two minor changes (like 0.45) and people start talking about huge differences in battery life. This just goes to show how much non-kernel stuff influences battery life. Really, the only kernel thing that makes a dramatic difference in battery life is the governor. For my usage, the elementalx governor is as battery friendly as you can get without compromising performance. The rest is all trying to get that last 1% improvement.

I really think the battery life stuff has gotten out of hand on XDA. There are tons of people flipping nonstop between kernels and ROMs, using them for a few hours and making judgements about battery life. You really need to test for a few days and the tests need to be under the same conditions. If you have a routine workday like me, that's probably best, but there are all kinds of things that can happen to make comparisons invalid.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
People like to make simple, surface level conclusions about things. That way they don't have to work or think too hard. Welcome to XDA. You should see the official 4.4.3 thread. Full of people who can't fathom the concept of isolating variables before deciding X caused Y.

But still, this thread is pretty cool ?.

Thanks for all your hard work flar2, and for your patience.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BabboDemonio:
Speaking for me I "complain" only because I wanna help you making your kernel even better than now with my feedback.. Thanks for your work flar..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Garfields 2X:
I never had better batterylife with my nexus after installing the kernel for 4.4.3! Huge thanks to flar! i get 4-5h screen on time easily.. :victory:

(on stock rom and express kernel installation)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Also after installing this kernel I broke up with my gf, installed another one and we are together again.. :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hooliganx:
yeah man... Im joking about some posts back...

this kernel is great! no problems, no drain, no lags... nothing to complain!

if someone have problems, search in your usage, investigate your device, and will find some stuffs that can cause problems.

I found Google Play Service issues, and some apps that drain too much. update this apps, greenify others (for test), make a CLEAN install... and only flash mods if you know what you doing ;)

ps... thanks [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] :thumbup:

N5*SlimKat.5.0.(4.4.2)*El-X.045

*ART*TWRP.2.7.0*0.13
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Recl@imer:
Update.

Guys\Girls,

I'm on .43. Do I simply install .45 over .43? or do i need to re-flash my rom and then install .45?

Thanks and sorry if this was asked already.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] olivierg13:
Google Play Service issues ? With a specific configuration ? Or is it something which touches everyone ? ^^

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Simply flash .45 over .43.

No problem,

Cheers,

Olivier
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BabboDemonio:
Flash the version with aroma installer over your kernel, no need to re flash rom
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobby janow:
It's obviously not kernel related but there are some major issues with the 4.4.3 release. It's all over the place, not only on XDA, that major battery and wifi issues have popped up. Unfortunately, you and ElementalX are in the middle and easy to blame. That being said, maybe it's time to bounce off stock ROM and head over to a CM build. I'm not seeing major issues on any of those although I've not been looking much as when I actually flash. So if there are any CM suggestions out there, rather than tie up this thread, please just send a PM as to what you're running with this kernel and having no issues. I'm all ears at this point, I'm not thrilled with stock 4.4.3 at all.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Recl@imer:
Thanks mate.

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Thanks. Will do.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
It's funny I always run ElementalX or just the plain stock kernel. I've never had performance issues with ElementalX, always runs great.

But I have to agree with you with regards to Android 4.4.3. I either run the factory image, a clean built plain jane stock AOSP build, Rastakat or Purity. And no matter what ROM I run, or whether I run ElementalX or stock kernel my battery just isn't the same as in Android 4.4.2. I have just accepted it already. It's not kernel related at all. Google Play Services is consistently on the top or one of the top apps in my list for battery drain and I don't have any new apps installed than I did prior to 4.4.3.

I am sure 4.4.3 fixed some underlying bugs etc, but it has not played well with my phones battery life that's for sure.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flar2:
Maybe try the 4.4.2 radio?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I would recommend running 100% stock or stock and this kernel for a few days-week so u can c what 4.4.3 is sposed to feel like , all these people saying 4.4.3 sucks and is full of bugs I've seen are on custom Roms ( there ROM sucks and there to "loyal" to admit ) or like flar2 said they install every damn hack out there and ..... , 4.4.3 is great ! its faster ,battery is a Lil better , the new radio finally gave me green in battery stats :D . I use it with xposed and Gbox and don't have any issues at all . I also have 4 other devices in my household that 4.4.3 stock runs great on .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] MrCatalyst:
When people say it's full of bugs and that the battery is worse, they have the reasons for saying such... EVERYONE has noticed the battery life is worse on 4.4.3, compared to 4.4.2 - even Moto series. We're not "too loyal" to admit the truth, when we're speaking the truth already, about 4.4.3, and it DOES happen on stock as well.

Also, 4.4.3 failed to fix some bugs and created some new ones, yes. The camera one still occurs for some (was meant to be fixed), the battery life could also be due to a bug in the code.

Glad you don't have any issues, but you don't speak for everyone. And you can't speak for everyone else, when it's not you experiencing these issues.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Have u cleared Google play services and framework ? I have got in the habit of clearing those once in a while , and it will stay under 4%
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
I have cleared google play services but not framework. Maybe I should give that a go if it continues. Which it probably will. Just flashed a new ROM today so I will see how that goes first and if it persists I will give that a try. Thanks. :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Actually this thread is full of guys that said they get better batter now ..but

I have 2 N5's . an HTC m7 and 8 GPE . both n7's . a N4 . and a G2 all running 4.4.3 "AOSP" . without issues . probably just coincidence .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chochiwpg:
That's another option as well. Since moving over to 4.4.3 I have only used the new radio. That might be something I should consider. Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
I . if u just flashed a new ROM and kernel now a good time to clear those just reboot right after .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
you mean clear app data of those too?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] BrandoHD:
These types of comments cause discussions to go the wrong way, it's best to stay away from making general comments like these when your sample size is probably close to one

ROMs and kernels aside, everyone has different setups and usage patterns that can see "battery life" stray one way or the other, and I'm not even going to get into the other factors like cell signal and whatnot, that being said, if people find battery life bad, some critical analysis is needed, and Android has these tools available, making posts like "it's worse on this kernel or rom or Android version" isn't really achieving anything worthwhile, this kernel developer will surely look into it if he is provided with substantiated evidence that something is wrong
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] C3C076:
[MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

Just to support your previous post.

I have zero issues with stability , battery life and performance running stock rom with elementalx .45, plus gravitybox and wake gestures.

Great job as always.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] drawde40599:
Ya , just go to settings/Apps . Google services--- clear data , Google framework --- clear data , one of them sends u to another screen scroll to bottom hit clear . reboot after . after it boots go to settings/location and make sure its set how u want because it resets to default .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Thanks mate
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chubby65:
I've been using purity rom 4.4.3 with elemental and not noticed any difference in battery over bobcatrom 4.4.2 with elemental

No worse no better just the same smoothness throughout
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hepi_hape:
wow, slimkat....

i think is just radio in 443 is suck, franco said it... check their thread

im revert to 442 radio with 443 rom + elX. hope this solved my battery drain [emoji1]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] fxdil:
He was joking mate.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
Excellent results and no problems here! Best kernel

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