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[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Basically even with this new Sonymobile post on FB we still don't know if SP will get KitKat.

The only real infos are on these sites:

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/#software-upgrades-2

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-sp/

BTW, how long are we in this situation when no yes or no is given?

You all didn't realize that HALF A YEAR is sufficient for testing new OS? Sony will say it's under investigation until last SP lefts the factory to boost the selling of this phone.

And then Sony will say something like this:

Haha, you won't get KitKat, we aren't producing this phone so we don't care about its users.

You all know about this, but when Sony says: "We won't update your phone, f*ck you users :* Go buy a Z3!", you are all surprised, and then the whining and petition madness starts.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Some guy from Sony already told that we won't get KitKat ....

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/01/sony-rep-says-xperia-sp-not-getting-kitkat/

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Sony will make you wait till October to announce the confirmation that so won't get the KitKat update.:banghead:
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
That was 1st april

.....
[Xperia SP General] jancsessz:
Any news?

XSP get kit kat or no :(?
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
There aren't any news.

And SP won't get KitKat.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Can those who say we won't get KitKat either:

Shut up!

or

Come with Some Proof

It is getting really annoying to see users, RC, RD etc. Saying:

We wont get KitKat and thats it...

Getting really old now!
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Fact: previously no phone with "under investigation" tag got the respective update(typical Sony)
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/1...-2011-xperia-devices-will-not-get-jelly-bean/

This is one of the "under investigation" situations...

The only phones that were under investigation and got the update were Xperia ZR, etc.

I think it was a mistake made by Sony - from the beginning we weren't supposed to get KitKat, and ZL,ZR, etc were supposed to get it, but Sony employee just made a mistake and wrote that we are getting KK and they aren't.

Under investigation means NO in Sony.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
That is happens to those devices does not mean it will happen to the Xperia SP ;)
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Sony was the same during 2011, 2012, 2013 years, do you really expect that's going to change in 2014?
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Should We close the Petition then, 4.4 for xperia sp? :confused:

Please help :confused:
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Yup, you can close it, Sony already know this. and you need to see older device has do same things but nothing happen
[Xperia SP General] Ashu1307:
We should just wait. We already know from the news that Sony has no plans for the 4.4 update.

If we Look at the case of Xperia M, it got 4.3 update which was not planned but it got, it's sibling M dual was launched with 4.2.2, so in first place Xperia M should only be updated to 4.2.2 but it got later the 4.3 skipping 4.2.2 & don't know why the Xperia L is not updated to 4.3 if Xperia M got it, they have almost identical specs.

That's my theory!
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Wait for what? For Sony silently and surprisingly updating SP to KitKat? Good joke, I really liked that, but stop dreaming. :)

I opt for closing this thread. KitKat is a miracle for us, and. 205 is probably the last update for SP. So no need to keep this thread up for spam tsunami.
[Xperia SP General] Ashu1307:
Wait till there is "Under Investigation" tag under kitkat update on XSP support page, when it shows the final and last version then we really should give up.
[Xperia SP General] issawillwin:
i know it's hard to admit that Sony is as capitalist as Samsung.

For me it's going to be the next Moto G. Our SP with CM11LBL can wait untill then.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I cant believe I bought this over moto g last week. ...:banghead:
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
But it's ONE HUNDRED percent sure that we won't get it. Really, under investigation is NO in that thievish company of Sony. We should just face it and close this thread.

And I think you chose the better one. :)

Camera, GPU, screen and battery is better in SP.

Moto G only wins on the CPU category, on others SP is clearly the winner or is at least on par.

If you want KK just flash CM or PA or anything else, no one is holding you back :)
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
People, just shut up..really

In less than a month Sony will post some news..till then shut it..

Nobody know if Sony will release it or not..we don't know..If 4.3 is the last firmware for SP, start crying..if not then celebrate somehow..but till we have official news, don't say anything else. ;)
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
BEST: prepare wipes* [emoji106]

* handkerchiefs [emoji80]
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
i am wiping and restoring data every day :) cm11, paranoid nexus, vanir.........................................................i tried everything......and now i am on stock and waiting good news... :)
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
Just make sure you are working in SONY before you can say 100%. Just wait. We can't know exactly. You can keep this despair for yourself and let everybody hopes, it does nothing wrong when hoping.
[Xperia SP General] Draqula:
My suggestion is to keep this thread:

- Sony has not yet given a final verdict (even if we can guess it by 90% certainty)

- There are many users who are going to ask about 4.4 anyway, so better keep it in this one thread than have multiple new junk-threads
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Lol

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/01/sony-rep-says-xperia-sp-not-getting-kitkat/
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
it was posted on first april

2ndly if it is like that .... then sony should have updated their website..,

3rdly stop posting obsolete stuff...
[Xperia SP General] aoshika:
ok so after the upgrade to .205 im having an issue with the screen. so it fades black for like 1-2 seconds and lags then it goes back to normal. plus ive got greenish smudge on the top of the screen :( is it only me?
[Xperia SP General] Fat_boy555:
No its not only u.. I and a few other users have experienced it too.. And no on road acryually doing a fix or workaround..
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/1...-0-473-and-xperia-t2-ultra-dual-19-1-c-0-116/

xperia t2 ultra will get KK soon, and our devices still under investigation..
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
We have kk (cm11) :cool:
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I think it would be lame that the Xperia SP would get an EOL state after the 4.3 update.. By the looks it appears to be the little brother of the ZL (compare both phones and tell me otherwise) but hardware we have a very powerfull GPU (same as the xperia Z) and a very decent CPU.

The M2 for example has 1 GB ram so that is NOT an excuse from Sony to not give kitkat.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
yup,that's right..
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Xperia ZL's brother? In your dreams. Xperia Z and ZL are the exact some phone internally but differs in the exterior shell. Xperia ZL is a high range phone unlike Xperia SP.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I mean by looks..... ;) Also the hardware is not poor or bad..
[Xperia SP General] aoshika:
*sigh* what about the greenish smudge on top of the screen?
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I checked the vodafone's blog and it's says "Testing complete. Awaiting rollout details." for SP

I checked UpdateChecker and Vodafone AU already has .205

Is it a new release? What do you think?
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Give the links.

Because on vodafone blog I only see this, and there is an info that Android 4.3 is in testing.

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...-Update-Weekly-Wrap-3rd-July-2014/ba-p/348711
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...Update-Weekly-Wrap-10th-July-2014/ba-p/350095 here you are
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Thanks, for some reason it doesn't show up for me on their blog...

Anyway, I think it's just another bugfix release.
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
I don't know whats problem but i dont have this problem but my brothers sp has this strange issue..
[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
I guess its new update but still 4.3, that is what writes there, probably some little bug fix. Now I am disappointed, hoped its 4.4 when I saw your post...
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
It could be a new update but I doubt it, even if so it may be a test firmware. I just don't see Sony releasing an update to the .205 firmware so soon, it's only been just over a month, they normally make us wait at least 2 months.

On the other hand it could be an actual update to 4.3, 4.4 was recently certified for the T2 Ultra so whilst that gets 4.4 they may release an update for us to keep our mouths shut then leave us on the 4.3. It happened to the Xperia S, when 4.3 was announced for the newer phones they released an ota update for the keyboard app to quieten the Xperia S users.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Edit whoops

My bad.. Some wrong intell xD :(

Sorry
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
I was completely confused about your previous post:D i thought that sony have been changed when see these devices names in the link:D hahaaa.. But it was for 2013 November..
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I know. I was visiting an other website with this news but this is from november 2013 :P
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
The Vodafone update is 4.3..

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP, eXistenZ ultra 4.0.0
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/1...d-xperia-m2-receives-bluetooth-certification/
[Xperia SP General] lvints:
I think a positioning of Sony about KitKat for our SP is closer.
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Vice versa.
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
Hope so
[Xperia SP General] greek_assassin:
Can't agree more ;)

IF I HELPED YOU PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
In my opinion I really think it deserves KitKat I mean its not even nearing the "End of Support" Period since it was just released 2013 March

I mean they prioritize more expensive phones...my Z1 C is already 4.4.4 as of now
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Take a look at it.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/558921/20140711/sony-xperia-sp-t-tx-v-android.htm
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
More bad news...for my SP atleast...
[Xperia SP General] J0kker:
After a sad story with my atrix 4g, then with this xperia so, just bought a moto g LTE. Sp is a better phone but camera quality is somehow the same. I like IPS screen of moto g, updates and as I own an archos gamepad 2 for games, I think I won't miss this xperia sp. I will miss the xperia community though, devs made such a great work with locked bootloader. Hope you guys get k.k update from Sony. Xperia SP owners diserve it
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
What happend to your sp?
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
Remember: if kitkat won't arrive the phone keep working

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP, eXistenZ ultra 4.0.0
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Yeah, that's what I don't understand... People are saying: if this phone does not get kitkat I'll do ...!

Come on people just be happy with your phone and don't flame/troll this thread and if you want to sell your phone because it sucks for you then not everyone needs to know it!
[Xperia SP General] feromgar:
Some people bought this phone because they believed that Sony would deliver Kit Kat to it. I know is hard to believe but it's just what it is.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
that's me..bought it on January when kitkat was a future release
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I bought. This last week....
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
QFT!!!
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
About the fourth time they have rehashed the same story.. They know nothing more than us and everything they said in that article they have said over and over again but no new news. Anything to get people to the website
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
I also bought this on december when it was 100% sure that we receive kitkat but i'm not complaining.. If kitkat arrive it will be awesome if don't arrive then we will have a functionally android 4.3 phone with awesome specs.

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP, eXistenZ ultra 4.0.0
[Xperia SP General] maxis123:
sounds great if true .. lets hope a bit more and see what comes out of all this ;O)

motoringcrunch dot com/news/exclusive-features-for-sony-xperia-android-4-4-kitkat-update/10019929
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Official Kitkat would be great but just remember we have some amazing devs working on LB and UBL versions of KitKat so everyone can enjoy it. Sony Apps on the whole are available for non Sony ROM's (just search XDA) so you dont lose alot on the long run. Keep an FTF of stock handy if you ever need a warranty repair and away you go.
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
Kit Kat Xperia SP

I think any time comes, Kit Kat Xperia SP Phones.
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Given the information we have, most likely XSP would not be getting the KitKat update

Sony Prioritizes the "classier" devices..

I mean atm im just waiting for the 4.4.4 update for my Z1 c while my XSP is stuck on the .205 FW
[Xperia SP General] codeknight11:
GUYS, guys, guys, CHILL!

We shouldnt forget that Google recently dropped 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 updates all of a sudden. Even my dad's galaxy note 2 (which is already on 4.4.2) hasn't received 4.4.4 update yet. Also, it takes time to merge the latest update, test them (most essential part - nobody wants a half baked software update that screws things up instead of fixing them), once the update is complete it also needs to pass google's cts certification etc. etc. which takes time.

Until sony announces anything, we really should stop whining and hope for the best :)
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Why hope when you have 4.3 existencez Rom for sp!
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
Because we'll have 4.4 eXistenZ :P

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP, eXistenZ ultra 4.0.0
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
Not Get eXistenZ Unlimite 5.0

Xperia SP Not Get KitKat and Not Get eXistenZ Unlimite 5.0:crying::crying::crying:

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I'm not bothered Because Android 5.0(CM12) is Better Sony Official ROM :laugh::eek::p
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
When Kitkat arrives what it'll bring

Max .. A change in the Android version from 4.3 to 4.4

:P

and these people will go mad
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
If we ever get kitkat: people will be asking for android L like a week later lol
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
maybe this thread need to deleted if our device don't get KK :p
[Xperia SP General] feromgar:
No, please don't delete this thread. It's hilarious how many people break English while posting here. It's like most of then don't even read whatever they type.

Now on topic. We should wait until we had actual news and stop speculating about rumors or "if's."
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Does anyone have friends over at Sony's????
[Xperia SP General] Depump:
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=23022

12.1.A.1.207 Jul 14, 2014

fix bug ???
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Yes another bugfixing update
[Xperia SP General] abbas_2010:
Sony excuse for dismissing the Kit Kat:D
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
that's a good thing...we'll have at least a good and stable android 4.3 :) and that's ok with me...kitkat would be very nice of course :D
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
New build appear for exchange kitkat 4.4.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
The chances of getting official KitKat from Sony are decreasing by the minute.

It is a shame acutally that this mid/high end device (we have pretty good hardware) is not getting KitKat.

We can blame not only Sony but also Qualcomm because not updating the CPU drivers for KitKat is also a reason for not updating...
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Isn't the Moto X the same processor as the Xperia SP? And that's running KitKat isnt it?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Correct:

MotoX

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php

SP

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-5364.php

So if Sony does not update our device they can not blame it on unsupported hardware or whatever ;)
[Xperia SP General] Emma22288:
Will be shame if we don't get kitkat :/
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
They will find another lame excuse for not giving kitkat.But I hooe we get it
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Moto X has 2 gigs of RAM.

So, if someone from Sony is reading this, please make an excuse about RAM and not the screen resolution as you have in habit - too low screen res is pretty boring excuse. :p

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Btw, just noticed how the people who hated other people that were saying "we won't get KitKat", now are saying the same exact thing.

Hypocrites...
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Sony sucks in software department!
[Xperia SP General] Bruno_Puzoni:
Hahah, 2 or 3 years ago Motorola also sucked in the software. That MotoBLUR tho :eek:

I really hope that Sony brings 4.4 to us...
[Xperia SP General] juliomb179:
Making a prediction based on the release dates of the previous versions, this patch could be released on July 31 or August 1
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I had an xperia ray and this now....... Same case as before from Sony.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
As far as I know, Sony left 2011 xperias with a not-so-functionable and buggy 4.0 update. It's just the same story with our sps. They'll release another "bug-fixing" update (which isn't really necessary, since the 12.1.A.2.205 build is quite stable and non-buggy as far as I know) as an excuse so they won't release the much wanted kitkat. Ah well....
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Dont forget that KitKat has been optimized to work on 512 mb RAM..

This also means clean plain android. If Sony is like Samsung and wants to add 300 gb of Bloatware then it is time from Google to forbid crapware on Android.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Don't forget that apart from running the OS, we are running Sony stuff. KitKat optimizations mean nothing with OEM skins on top. Look at Xperia Z - it runs like crap on KK with all these optimizations.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Yeah that may be but this does not mean that every update or every firmware has this issue. I believe it has been solved in one or two updates...

Also the Skin is near plain Android and not like TW or Sense from Samsung and HTC
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
b*ll****s...check Xperia E1...SONY MOBILE! it has 512mb ram but guess what..it will get(if not already) kitkat!
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:


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Sony purposely made kk crap on z so people can move on to their latest flagships.
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
Sony, like any company, has to keep costs low to stay competitive and that includes developing your next phone that you want to buy at the lowest price possible.

They will not provide a firmware upgrade if there aren't good reasons to do so. The 4.3 firmware works well, 4.4 does not offer major benefits, and a firmware upgrade in addition to the R&D costs also brings risks. If Sony releases a seriously broken 4.4 firmware that makes phones unusable, it costs them lots of money.

Where I work, we make similar decisions quite frequently. Yes, individual customers will always complain, but the reasonable majority will understand these decisions.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I agree with you but...

1)they should keep the 18 months support

2)the SP should not had the kitkat update as "future version" but as "under investigation"
[Xperia SP General] kmiloxdxd:
Compare Xperia SP with Xperia E1

Xperia E1............................................................................. Xperia SP

800 x 480 pixels ............................................................................. 1280x720 pixels

1.2 GHz Qualcomm MSM8210 dual-core ............................................................................. 1.7 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4

3 MP.............................................................................. 8 MP

512MB...................................................... 1GB

Update to Kitkat supported..................................................................................... Update to Kitkat under investigation

$310 ......................................................................................................... $150

Why Sony didnt update Xperia SP, is not by hardware
[Xperia SP General] Emma22288:
Jeee. This fu.cks me up too...
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
the hell is that ****

Also, u forgot the most important thing

Xperia E1: Released: 2014, March

Xperia SP: Released: 2013, April

Sony Mobile is a company (with a 6 month cycle, btw), stop crying and learn about real life and money (?) stupid ppl making petitions to ask sony release update, when Sony is still making money with newer phones.... they don't care about that things, so move on please (?)

Also, the real ppl interested in 4.4 release should be developers, not just kids like 90% posts here, XSP is a good handset right now there are a lot of ROMs (for both LB & UB) if u need something beyond "sony's android"

For last, sony right now says nothing about KK.... so... no, there's no yes, there's no no...
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Take a look at this, I know it's old but if T2 ultra is getting its kitkat on July maybe there is chance to get a kk upgrade for our xsp

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/05...ia-z-xperia-zl-xperia-zr-and-xperia-tablet-z/

And like Xperia t which got 2 major upgrades from ics, we'll get one more upgrade and that is kitkat.
[Xperia SP General] alexmolhi:
gsm arena news

In GSM arena in the page of specifications, they update the page and says "Android OS, v4.1 (Jelly Bean), upgradable to v4.4.4 (KitKat)"
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
yeah sure, gsm arena will soon release the kernel sources after KK update.:p
[Xperia SP General] Emma22288:
Yes. Upgradable.. But it doesn't meen that we will get it..
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
July news

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/07...android-4-4-kitkat-rolls-for-xperia-t2-ultra/

Next up, it’s Xperia E1 and Xperia M2 (& M2 dual variants respectively) – we’ll be back with more information soon.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Next up xperia SP...... BUT WAIT our 18 month software support has just ended
[Xperia SP General] Tomoms:
On another non-english forum an user said that he was chatting with the Xperia customer care and the guy from Sony told him that we won't get kitkat :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
That was in April. This thread should have been closed in April.
[Xperia SP General] Tomoms:
No, I'm talking about another guy who chatted with some sony employee yesterday...
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
SONY Make.Tricks

Xperia SP Not Get KitKat.:mad::mad::crying:

SONY Make.Tricks​

:mad:
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Sony

Make.Believe(Sell.Deceive)
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Good one
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
Xperia T2 Get KitKat in 4 day

Xperia T2 Get KitKat in 4 day:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/16/xperia-t2-ultra-android-4-4-2-kitkat-update-now-rolling/

Xperia SP wait for KitkAT 1 yars.

SONY:Not Get Xperia SP KitKat

Xperia SP Benchmarks:24000

Xperia T2 Benchmarks:20000

?????:mad::mad::mad:
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
T2 is a lot newer than SP. I'm certain that we won't get official KitKat and I'm not sad either because we have CM11.
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
1. Support means fixing bugs, not necessarily updating to the newest version.

2. true
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=huashan

CM development is getting fast
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Sony you're the real MVP... If you release kk
[Xperia SP General] kmiloxdxd:
I tell you the updates:

- Xperia T2 Ultra rolling out in July

-Xperia M2 July

-Xperia E1 July-August

-Xperia SP July-October

Xperia SP gonna be updated to kitkat , i promise you

NOW ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SAYS THAT XPERIA SP IS NOT GETTING KITKAT: SHUTUP DONT POST THESE THINGS