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[Xperia SP General] Draqula:
Where did you get that info?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
One of the biggsest rules here is:

PROOF PROOF PROOF PROOF EVIDENCE, PICTURES, SCREENSHOT ETC..
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
Well, I don't think we need proof, it's words. Like, you say no KK, proof? Sony said that? Evidence? Pictures? Screenshot? Where is the official words from SONY? How can you sure that we won't get?

I'm not telling that we will get KK neither won't get too. It's just a word. We have right to say anything, just be sure that's it will not affect anyone.

So guys please just calm down. Of course, you can keep your words that WE WON'T, the others will keep their words that WE WILL. I don't think it harm anyone.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
We got 2 months remaining until our product is officially not supported. All we can do is wait. They are still rolling out bugfixes, which means they are working on our phone. There's a chance that we'll get kitkat. And as I said, other Xperia devices got atleast 2 major updates. That way our kitkat will release soon.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
I read rumors about a new "bug-fixing" update of 4.3 jelly bean rolling out soon for our sps (yes, in this very thread), with build number 12.1.A.1.207. If that's true, Sony won't release a kitkat variant for our phones. Just think about it. 4 (four) 4.3 jelly bean versions? Seems like an excuse not to release the newest (so far) version of android in xperia sp. I hope I'm wrong. I want official kitkat so badly. As for the support, it's still on until October, so 3 months remaining, just to mention it.
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
Difference Between Xperia Z Vs Xperia SP

تفاوت اکسپریا Z و SP:

اکسپریا Z:

4.1.2 عالی

4.2.2 عالی

4.3 پایدار و در حد عالی (قابل توجه فقط با 2 تا آپدیت)

4.4.2 خوب (قابل توجه فقط با 2 تا آپدیت)

4.4.4 که تا حداکثر 2 هفته دیگه براش میاد.

5.0 قرار بیاد.

اکسپریا SP:

4.1.2 زباله (با 8 آپدیت زباله یکی پس از دیگری)

4.3 زباله تر (6 آپدیت فعلا در ضمن 2 یا 3 تا شو هم پاک کرد که آبروش نره)

آخرش نفهمیدیم چرا میان رده تولید میکنه.

بیاد رده بالا و رده پایین تولید کنه و خیال همه رو هم راحت کنه:silly:
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
I dont think it matters anymore, this thread is all conjecture and frustration.

We'll know if Sony state we will get it, until then assume we wont and enjoy what you have.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
In other very ot news:

My XSP has gone for some repairs and I now use an HTC One X :P
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Now i upload again this screen shot for my mail last a few month ago.

And this news before DooMLorD has told we will not get KK

I've chat with Software Engineering SW on [Sony Mobile China (i think)]
[Xperia SP General] antoyn:
I feel that we will have android L for sp by cyanogenmod one day, so some time ago i don't care about whether the crap SONY will release kk for sp or not anymore
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
I think we all know that we won't receive kitkat lol this thread is just making false hopes

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
If we dont get official KK it may be a lot harder to get L running on our machine (well for LBL at least). So i'm still hoping for official KK just for the kernel if nothing else.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
What if Xsp gets kk? Sony will become a good company all of a sudden![emoji13]
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
So if I understand all the news at the moment (small summary from all the details)

- Sony Xperia SP is a mid range device with very good hardware that is more than capable to run KitKat

- Sony has pushed a bugged 4.3 update and they are atempting to fix this via small fw fixes (.266/.201/.205/.207?)

- Sony claims that they have no plans whatsoever for this device except QMR releases

Lowend **** devices like Sony Xperia E2 will get KitKat?

You have got to be freaking kidding me?

This device has been bought by a lot of users with the vision of getting KitKat and all over sudden Sony has turned its back....

Why? Why are they so goddamn lame? Why are they not giving answers...

No offence to anyone in contact with Sony via email... But stop it....

The only information they give is we have no plans atm...
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Maybe they are releasing .207 as LAST update, with one "fix" - I don't think it will be rootable with towelroot. So just a kernel update and then... "Buy a new awesome phone, like E2(sarcasm overload :p) to get KitKat, suckers!"
[Xperia SP General] kmiloxdxd:
Maybe Xperia E1 or Xperia M2 is best phone in Hardware.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
not at all..

Xperia SP>M2>E1
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
No, .207 is not the last update. There will be another bug-fixing after .207 lol. Sony makes an update with small bug then release another 4.3 bug fixing update until our support end. That is sony's strategy for us to dont get the kitkat haha
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Not the best. But LATEST and will received an updates. Its lame.. (– ˛ — ٥ )
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Never gonna buy Sony again first xperia ray and now this .. Man fak this sheet.... This might be the only device to be stuck on ""jelly bean""......
[Xperia SP General] antoyn:
With regard to the quality release(QR) as mentioned before in previous replies, i want to ask HOW the kitkat update on xperia E2 can be a QR update? Moveover, i deem that the update schedule should be distributed by SONY at a regular timeframe on time, not being asked by the phone owners again and again. So SONY is really a irresponsible enterprise.
[Xperia SP General] Draqula:
You are right:

SP is going out, no more significant sales.

Later models have just launched, beginning sales.

So there is money to be made by the later models and not by SP. You have to keep the later models attractive by updating them.

You have limited resources for developing new updates as you have to keep the overall costs low.

Being the CEO of Sony Mobile, which way would you push the limited resources? Remember you like your job and want to keep the board from saying you're not making things profitable enough.

If you want to understand big corporations, there is one main principle - "follow the money".

As for the satisfaction of customers who are unhappy with their older devices, that's just too bad. It seems as all of the big manufacturers are more or less screwing them - HTC, Samsung, Sony, not much difference. My last device was HTC Desire and the hunt for the 2.3 was almost as this SP hunt for the 4.4, that thread seemed never-ending. Samsung pulled the 4.4 for SIII and so on.

I'm not saying things are OK but it's just how things are.
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
If you want Faster Updates you should have bought the Nexus 5 which is now upgraded to 4.4.4 and there are some alpha or beta build of android l for it.

It makes me sad tho, the fact my SP is stuck with 4.3 while im eagerly waiting for 4.4 on my Z1c
[Xperia SP General] xdagops:
Try Cm11

You can try Cm11 and who knows perhaps CM12 later.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Galaxy s3 is 2012 phone it got

4.0

4.1.2

4.2.2

4.3

Our sp 2013 phone

4.1.2

4.3

4.4 (deserves)

But if Sony decides to launch new phones in coming months then our slim chances of getting KitKat are over or presumably dead.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Slowly it shows up - the frustration and "No phone from Sony anymore!" sentence. It won't do anything against Sony, maybe their incomes would decrease by 0,00005 %, but they don't care about this.
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
Yes, but I hope, buuuut think that Sony forget about us months ago. Just pushing 'nothing special' updates to end the update cycle.

My first android phone is Xperia X8 (no 2.3 at all when LG Optimus One and some others gets 2.3 really fast) and same story now with Xperia SP.

After X8 I had HTC Sensation (massive but no 4.1) and then One X (so awesome device but broken in terms of battery and storage after a year of using and there no 4.3 or 4.4 for it).

If we need update then answer is - flagships! I used HTC One (M8) for a week and it is the best phone at this moment for me in every term.

---

So, what I want to say... We need to stop complain or spam about the updates here. Only confirmed news and concrete posts or discuss real firmware releases (upcomin' x.207 for example). Don't forget to sign a petetion, spam Sony and HOPE of course.

Thanks.

Sorry for my bad English.

Sent from Russia with love:o
[Xperia SP General] berezker:
They are going to release Z3 in IFA, so it MIGHT decrease the probability of us getting kitkat
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Flagship and midrange?!?
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
The xperia sp is almost a high-end smartphone. It deserves as much care as the flagships and the high-end smartphones.
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Mid range is mid range. There's no such thing as "almost high range".
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Lg l7ii(768mb ram, 1ghz dual core, adreno 203) has worse specs than our sp and it recently got confirmation that it will receive kk in coming months:banghead:

m.gsmarena.com/lg_announces_kitkat_updates_for_older_optimus_models-news-8908.php

Isn't that a lower midrange...
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
Guys enjoy CM 11, stop crying we van have a bugless KitKat even if its not official :)
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Don't forget that with kitkat update we get the kitkat kernel, which will really help the devs. And you'll enjoy cm 12 then ;)
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
You have a point , still hope those magicians will port cm12 :p
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
We still got 2 months remaining until our phone is officially old. We can't lose our hope. We still get updates which means that people at Sony pay attention to the bugs present in 4.3 :P
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I see no bugs in 4.3 now
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Then why is a new firmware. 207 being showed in ptcrb site[emoji53]
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Yeah, but I think you got what I'm trying to say. This device is in the very upper hand of mid-range devices.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
That's an LG phone not a Sony. You could say that about most recent released phone as not all have a good specs as sp but newer firmware. Until Sony confirm it's all nonsense and just moaning about nothing..
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
I hope we get move apps to SD feature in the

.207 update
[Xperia SP General] jenci8888:
I'm waiting for SD move-apps with .207 update...

Finger crossed.
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
.205 has some bug. Sometimes, the screen turns yellowish then black then back to normal. I hope .207 fix this bug and the move to sd feature will be added.
[Xperia SP General] User013:
Upper or lower mid-range it does not matter, we are not flagship, they took our money and now they don't care about us.

Back in december (couple of days before new year) when i bought sp i was like hmmm should i buy sp or xperia z which is 100 euros more expensive? I heard there is new version of android, kit kat, which has better performances and request less ram.

Oh look both phones will receive kitkat.

I don't really need 13MP camera, areno 320 + dual core on 720p will probably have similar performance as adreno 320 + quad core on 1080p, 720p is fine for me. I don't need waterproof phone. Because new version of android request less ram, 1GB will probably be enough. I will buy xperia sp and save some money for something else...

Two months later:

Aaaand my reaction:

Sorry for offtopic i just had to say this...:p

btw i am happy with CM11 on my xperia sp but shame on Sony for lying customers
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
This post made me

That's old as f*ck.... also, all phones get first the 'future update', then comes the 'under investigation' and then 'released' (not for all as u can know xD).... lulz, u fAil dude

Understand, turn on your brains, Sony is not bad, is just a company and works for their profits, no more, u can go to cry and buy a LG/Samsung/Coby phone and they don't care becasue they're still making money.... so stop the drama and wait until final announcement (well... until october, maybe there will be no announcement xD), also, the phone is good right now, what is your (all of u) complain?
[Xperia SP General] codeknight11:
I am not sure if anyone noticed this, but if you check out xperia sp's spec page on gsmarena ( http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-5364.php ), there's a slight change in the OS part. Earlier it used to say 'planned upgrade to 4.4', but now it says 'upgradable to 4.4.4'. I don't know how or why gsmarena decided to change this. But it looks like some reliable tipster tipped them about it.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
autobrightness is not working since forever. some complaints about overheat and battery drain are also around forum.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
and that weird saturated screen for 2-3 seconds
[Xperia SP General] tomgv:
+

VoIP Apps don't work on Android 4.3 ..

205 is not bug free, i hope in 207 will fix some bugs.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
I see.....yeah, that's pretty unfair for us. Sony seems to take care only for flagships and high-end phones (e.g. xperia zl). At least they could put the "under investigation" thing from the very first moment they considered bringing kitkat to our phones. Anyways, I bought my xperia sp because of its performance rather than its firmware support. (Adreno 320 + 720p display can get better fps in gaming than the xperia z combo, just because the g.p.u. doesn't have to push the graphics to a very high resolution [1080p in xperia z's display], so it can perform better in terms of graphics. So, our xperia sp can perform just as good as the xperia z or even higher in the gaming/graphics section).

Anyways, if I want kitkat, I may consider installing cm11, just like you did. Besides, it's available even for locked bootloaders.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Sony just made autobrightness like that. It's not a bug, it's a "feature". I think it's more of a design flaw, but Sony engineers are "very intelligent" and they made it like this. Overheating - hey, it's snapdragon. Great processing power in a small package. So it just produces heat, Sony can't do anything about this(oh, they can enable thermal throttling, and NO ONE wants that). Battery drain is because people can't use their phones correctly and do something like "oh a new app INSTALL oh another one INSTALL oh everything is running in background and drains my battery, oh I'll blame Sony").

Ofc, Sony is a company with a bunch of liars working in it(no other company lies that hard about updates), I'm not protecting them, just saying the truth.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
oh yeah, its not a bug, its only malfunction. now I feel somehow better knowing that. lol
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
yeah, you are right..no battery drain!! :svetius:
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
It's obvious that they will release it along with T and V. They don't want to create another posts on their blog ("Xperia SP 4.3 rolling out", "Xperia T and V 4.3 rolling out"), so they will do it at once in a final wave, and then they can go straight to KitKat news ;)

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
If Sony ever decided to delay this update and delay it for more than a month.

I would probably just sell the phone and get a nexus 5.

Regret getting this phone anyways, wasn't expecting locked down bootloader in the first place.

The only reason I got this in the first place was because of its battery size and a promised 4.3 update by the end of this year.
[Xperia SP General] Riodrian:
My operator (Orange) told me that my update will be available at the end of the January (due to branding). I'm counding on .ftf of new firmware when it will be available ;p

Happy New year everyone!
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
yeah the same i would probably just sell this phone if the update gets delayed too long
[Xperia SP General] ma_ko:
I wouldn't mind delaying the update but only if Sony decided to inform us how long it'll take. Right now we are waiting impatiently when Sony could tell us sth like: it'll be delayed for a week or a month. I would be OK with that. Not knowing the approximate date of the update is problematic.
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
Same here, I've already listed my SP for sale, I just wanted to try the new update before I get rid of the phone, 'cause if they fix everything that needs fixing I might change my mind.. and I'm waiting for the Nexus 5 to be sold in my country..

Anyway, even a trade for a Moto G is a good deal, IMO..
[Xperia SP General] bsuhas:
Guys relax. Get life, enjoy new year eve. Stop running behind this every now and then.

Happy new year.
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
lol, I actually ordered and cancelled a nexus 5 from play store early this month, simply because Play Store "Leaves warehouse in 1 - 2 business days" does not include processing time. And I don't like waiting. Ended up with this ****ty phone that can't even install CM.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Guys this is not the correct place to discuss this and if you dont like this phone get rid of it. We dont need 100 comments saying it

sent from my xperia SP with the best wishes to all :)
[Xperia SP General] KiaTheKing:
Can someone help me here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2592124
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Ya..that's what I am also trying to say..If u don't like the phone just sell it and get your favorite phone..don't post them here again and again..

Happy New Year..!!
[Xperia SP General] Depump:
i think today sony not release 4.3 for sp with some reason (staff out of office 555)

but let it go

enjoy party new year eve better :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] CaptJunior:
I tried relocking the bootloader using flashtool and it said your bootloader cannot be unlocked officially
[Xperia SP General] ma_ko:
;

sorry for the large pic, rollout should be starting shortly :)
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Not visible
[Xperia SP General] megaxp:
-.- Sony zzzzz not release firmware This year

Enviado desde mi C5302 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
maybe they will we just don't know lets just hope for the best!

i hope they realize that in that little poll about best xperia devices our device is leading the poll curshing the xperia Z1 etc.
[Xperia SP General] megaxp:
8:20 am and Sony not released update

Enviado desde mi C5302 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] Dark Passenger:
It will be pretty cool if they trigger roll outs on 31st dec 11:59pm.

you know ring in the new year with 4.3 on xperia sp.

just speculations am anxious for the damn wifi to be fixed. Camera is kind of managable.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Dec 31 , 11:59 PM is OK,But in what time zone..?:laugh::laugh:
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
It's Google Services bug. Look at Nexus, Samsung, etc threads - the issue is everywhere, pnly on Sony threads people are blaming Sony for that.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Battery is very fine using greenify..... Sync is set to Manuel.
[Xperia SP General] cbarai:
Post at this page http://autoomobile.com/news/sony-xperia-handsets-will-get-some-exclusive-android-4-4-4-kitkat-features/1003311/

Says XSP will get 4.4.4

Article is dated 29th June

This in line with vodafone.au blog for SW update says that the Z2 update is just being rolled out.

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5/Vodafone-Blog/Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap-17th-July-2014/ba-p/351265

Which means the XPS update should still be in the works.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Yeahm SP straight to 444 :D and that article - no source, no links to "sony hints". It is one big BS for click bait.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
look, those sites are unofficial which means that whatever you read about XSP and 4.4 isn't based on real announcements..The only thing everybody can do except DoomLord is to wait for an update here http://blogs.sonymobile.com/news/
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-5364.php

Even GSM arena Now says upgradable to 4.4.4..

previously it was 4.4......
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
gsmarena is not official webpage, so basically, it does not matter what their write. and secondly, there was no official 4,4 and neither there is 444 for SP, so probably what they have in mind is CM, not official software. Therefore, in context of official KK for SP, gsmarena is not a source to look up to.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Actually there's no point posting replies mentioning about kk update or not. Coz its been repeated so many times, every single opinion and view have been expressed :P. Just wait for official announcement.
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Lets wait and hope for kk
[Xperia SP General] ongkhel:
i thinks it was a marketing strategy
[Xperia SP General] ParvSharma:
So??

http://www.justaboutphones.com/android-4-4-2-update-sony-xperia-sp-t2-ultra-m2-e1/

What do you say about this guys?? ;)
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I dont think its true
[Xperia SP General] ParvSharma:
They have the screenshot of that official document. Is this fake?
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
This type screenshot is posted bedore also. And moreover we are in mid july and recently a new bugfix update is certified so it is very unlikely to get official kk this month.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
this SS was in few more "news" few months ago, its fake and gay.

DO NOT POST NEWS WITHOUT SOURCES.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Lol dude

Chill, and wait till Sony announces anything
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
For some unknown reason still glad i didnt choose the Xperia L :P
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I sold xperia L for xperia sp
[Xperia SP General] Androidkeeda:
M buying htc E8..... Just fed up with sp... I purchased sp initially and its been more than 1 year still Sony couldn't manage to fix all the bugs... Auto brightness still s*cks..

Listed my phone on olx... Hope i get rid of it soon...
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I use the HTC One X at the moment and I just hate it. HTC is not as good as I thought and the place of the on/off button is just horrible.

I miss my SP :(
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
I think you need some luck with every company. You can buy a phone at the right time and get one version more than expected/"promised" or you can be unlucky like we will (?) with our SP - let's see.
[Xperia SP General] Androidkeeda:
Yeah right bro... Its a tall phone and button placed on top.. But knock-on feature is there...

I was planning to buy lg g2 (compromising with sd card support) but here htc boom sound, dual sim capability, snapdragon 801,sd card support & KNOCK ON features turns towards it...

Personally i dont like htc sense at all... I want features like lg g2 but but but... Actually there is no perfect phone out there... And i got job & my 1st salary so wanna buy flagship device...

I would buy lg g3 but its battery lacks it...
[Xperia SP General] rkumbhar:
dude i have ZR and yes i got 4.4.2 update
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
Yes.. Thats what I said At The Earliest Time In This Thread.. SP Can Handle 4.4 and Sure One Day U People Will Get A Good News.. Lets Hope for Good. Please Don't Ask Any Proof To Me Because Of This Comment...... :p:p:D:D:D
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
+1, same, best decision regarding smartphones taken so far-taking into account the poor Xperia L is stuck on 4.2.2 with no foreseeable future updates.
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I think xperia L is really unlucky even xperia M got 4.3 update
[Xperia SP General] shashank tn:
Guy's m using kitkat 4.4.3 on my Xsp with Cm 11
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
Congratulations ....
[Xperia SP General] monnett:
i hope our sp getting kitkat update:(
[Xperia SP General] donk165:
I really hope this new 207 firmware fixes things. It confuses me how my nexus 7 2012 can run so smooth but only has 1gb of ram, almost the same amount as this phone but this phone really struggles to do the same multitasking, I know the nexus has a quad core but its only @ 1.2ghz vs our 1.7ghz dual core.
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
There Is Some Different Between Stock Android Version (Cyanogenmod, AOSP Style) And Sony's Build. ;)