yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
The main reason I want 4.4 buggy or not is we then get a proper kitkat Kernel to work with for LBL roms which means more compatibility and possibly future android versions.

Would be nice if it was a decent version though, and 4.3 both versions so far are awfully buggy and slow.
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
U know buggy kit kat is better than nothing, developers can fix bugs and tweak rom remove bloatwares and a good kitkat with high performance will be available for us.. But without that we just have one choice, cm11 wich is very good but sony kitkat with sony apps and features is sth else,
[Xperia SP General] MixoMaxoViper:
[MENTION=5386274]Looser99[/MENTION]

I want kitkat,buggy or not niaboc79 and others fix this or anyone make a rooted 4.4 and we install few mods for bugs
[Xperia SP General] SeñorWu:
I'm using SlimKat now and I couldn't be happier. But I hope they release 4.4 for SP, because the current ports of Sony apps don't work at 100%. And seriously, however good Poweramp might be, there's nothing like Walkman with clear audio + for me. So buggy or not.. I need it too.
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
For you maybe. Please check this thread and other forums to see that a lot of users have problems even with the Last update (it's my case, even with reflashing 2 times, wipe, soft and hard reset...)
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Guys remember that you'll see more complains on a forum then compliments.

I mean it is easier to complain and report bugs ;)
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
and i want to know, does this thread just only to post complains about xperia sp?:confused:
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
I don't complain about bugs. in facts I don't have bugs on the last 4.3, but lags and freezes. And the multitasking is horrible. It's the same for a lot of users and even big retailers like matériel.net complain about a lot of customers ' return. it's a fact so I won't let some people say that 4.3 is nearly perfect Just because it works FOR THEM:)
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
New firmware has ceritified

has we expected 12.1.A.1.205 will release for xperia sp

:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Xperia SP General] lvints:
Good news. Do you think this would be the last firmware version before a KitKat(if released)?
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Maybe :D
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Don't say like that :eek:;):p

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@Levered gives proper news.Thanks bro for updating us. We can rely on your info:)
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Why there is not .201? And what was time difference between 192 certification and release?
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Lol .192 was never released.they directly released .201 without certification.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
can you explain in more details.
[Xperia SP General] korenisko:
Finally , didn't knew it?
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
They had certified the .192 firmware first.we kept waiting for it and it never appeared..then the .201 rollout started though it was not certified at ptcrb.
[Xperia SP General] henry_acevedo:
What About Kit Kat 4.4?

So this Means that Kit Kat will not come? and just an Update to use 4.3 C'mon sony Kit Kat use less Ram will make Our Device Super Fast... Please Sony Kit Kat
[Xperia SP General] JetArmstrong:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/23/new-bug-fix-xperia-sp-update-12-1-a-1-205-certified/

.205 Certified

:p
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
MIUI Developer ROMs 4.5.9, 4.5.16 and 4.5.23 are based off Android 4.4.2 Kit Kat, you're right. But what most of us want the Xperia experience, not the MIUI experience on a Sony device.

Also, MIUI is so heavily skinned, even after using a few weeks I'm still not making at least 50% of the capabilities.

FYI: My previous device is also Xperia SP (C5303 LTE)

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Please don't ask about Kit Kat update now, wait for the 12.1.A.1.205 to be rolled out first. They still have so many devices waiting for the update, give them some time can't you?

If you really want Kit Kat now, go for XperiaZe.
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Well looking around this post gives some hope :thumbup:

https://m.facebook.com/sonyaze/phot...88665151468/450924445011222/?type=1&source=46
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
July if this news are true :)
[Xperia SP General] arifkpi:
Is it really a official page of Sony???
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
Official Sony Azerbaijan it seems. The post says "Xperia SP üçün android 4.4 (kitkat) yenilənməsi iyul ayına planlaşdırılır" or in English "Android 4.4 (kitkat) for Xperia SP upgrade is scheduled for July"
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
I doubt it's an official FB page. It has 366 likes (wtf :laugh:) and it is not certified by FB as an official page (no blue checkmark). Even Lithuanias SONY FB has over 12k likes. And I am not even talking about picture in that post which looks ridiculous.
[Xperia SP General] arifkpi:
Absolutely :D
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
Oh yeah. I agree. Even Sony Estonia has 13k :P
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Take a look at this.
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Please don't post any "news" from ****ty smartphone pages etc. Read what our insiders write here and wait.
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
Screenshot is from this website

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/new-stabil...p-expected-fix-flickering-screen-issue-600954
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
it refers to the "leaked sony document" that was fake
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
How do you know it s fake ?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
1: Poor layout

2: Xperia T already got the 4.3 update at the same time as the SP got it

;)
[Xperia SP General] Dashing_97:
i don't understand

i don't understand that what is lacking in Xperia SP compared to Xperia M2 which is getting the 4.4 kitkat update! :/ SP is much more powerful and also has 1 gb ram like M2 then why does sony have to think too much before updating! i really don't like CM or other custom roms on a device like Xperia SP as they are ugly even after themeing! and they make the score so bad in antutu :/ i want officcial android 4.4.2 for my phone.
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Just wait..i have a gut feeling that we get the KK too..all we need is to wait
[Xperia SP General] Dashing_97:
Yups, hope so really!
[Xperia SP General] claudio917:
I don't give a f... about antutu... Have you ever tried the speed and the ram management of the SP with cm11 or other custom roms? It is just amazing, and gaming is better too... If you think that the Nexus 5 gets something like 25k points on antutu and Xperia SP with stock rom gets 22-23k you should realize that those points doesn't make no sense... I don't think the official kitkat will come, but if those guys of the fxp team or some other devs can increase CM11 battery life, which is the only thing that lacks, it would be simply fantastic! :)
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Hope you're right.....we'll see about it next month though....
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
Gaming isn't better on CM it's much worse u.u
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
It is better on cm! And for better battery life install cm11 for locked bootloader
[Xperia SP General] v9d4.amir:
I want stock 4.4.2 for XSP Sony ???:eek:
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Or at least sony could fix autobightness. Did someone managed to get it working on stock/stock based ROM? I did not however on CM 11 it works perfect.
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Use an app for it.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
i agree too
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Works for miui too:(
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
haha, is that philosophy of a sony too? :D

That's what I'm talking about. So simple yet so unachievable. :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Until Sony will fix it (IF they will), use an app. I didn't expect to explain that to you.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
in first my experience to use this device before i sold my xperia L

auto brightness dont work on this device...so bad..

:(
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
I don't even care about auto brightness! I always keep the brightness @ 100% :p
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
never use your phone in dark or at night?

Howeve its not about that what some ppl use or not. It is about that there is such option (just like in any other smartphone) and it is not working thus it is clearly a software/firmware bug.
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Yeah that's true... I'm thinking about selling my phone as I would like to have a phone that works out of the box without having to install custom rom's and kernels to make the phone work as it was designed to
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Weird that everyone is complaining. @up like the xz is perfect? With random broken screens and backplate that is comming of..

Sent because I pressed enter
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
I changed my mind already :p was on stock ROM for a while and now I never want to use it again xD using cm11 now and it's better but still: if Sony doesn't give us 4.4 the should at least give us a stable 4.3 update with all nasty bugs fixed
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
lol....
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
no my friend I've tried it, its much worse, better framerate on stock based (really heavy games) that's my taste, maybe I'll try as you said CM for LBL and see

yes, its laggy, much worse than stock based believe me!
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
The good thing with the lbl version is that you can use doomkernel/Williams kernel
[Xperia SP General] Silver Wx:
A kernel for CM11 UB here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2764939;

Thank to pectOra !
[Xperia SP General] claudio917:
Well I don't e play a lot of games but I hate that with both Existenz and ultimate pure xsp (stock based roms) Real Racing 3 keeps crashing and with CM11 it was smooth (and not to mention 4.4 immersive mode which is a big plus). I mean it is a shame that a phone with such a Soc and adreno 320 can't handle those games.. Dunno if it's because of Sony's kernel and its stupid ram management...
[Xperia SP General] poran123:
even I dont understand why our phone cant handling all those games.. gpu is also good..
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
Should I make a video showing both ROMS so that you can see gaming is better on stock? It does not crash bro
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
ram is problem in our device...everything else is good...:cyclops:
[Xperia SP General] claudio917:
I'm just telling you my experience, i'm having problems with both roms with RR3, I keep using greenify for Facebook, Google+ and other stuff and i've got a decent quantity of free ram. Had problems with both stock and doomkernel. I haven't used stock rom in the last two months so I don't know if the problem exists even there but Existenz and ultimatepure should be very similar to stock!! I'm not the only one with these problems..
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
1. CM doesn't have QCOM optimized Dalvik, so it will be slower than stock in some operations. You can flash optimized Dalvik from Nexus 4 thread (google it, I'm to lazy to give links lol). This fixes that problem and makes gaming better.

2. GPU drivers are from 4.2 in CM11, if I remember correctly. You can flash N4 drivers from 4.3, it will give a small boost in performance.

3. I really don't know why, but when you type

wm size 720x1280

(or any other resolution), there is a noticable performance boost. I'm still trying to figure out, why.

BTW, with that GTA SA runs better on CM(maxed out).

I could make a tutorial in boosting CM performance if someone needs it.:cowboy:
[Xperia SP General] lanluckez:
It'll be great MrSteve555. Thank your for such precious information. Did you get noticeable improvements with it?

If you open a threaD (:D), we'll see us there.

edit: thread not threat hehe.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Yeah, I've got really nice improvements in gaming and overall system performance. Also I've opened a thread with CM performance fixes on Polish android forum, and it was confirmed working:good:.
[Xperia SP General] poran123:
make a thread here too... I want to use
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Done!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53003991#post53003991
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
You know what I mean

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/29/xperia-z-owners-how-are-you-finding-kitkat/

:cool:
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Ha, seems like first KK for Z is not a success. :(
[Xperia SP General] lvints:
So, these are bad news?
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
Sort of, but on positive note it's not Sony's fault, but Google's. Even though Sony Mobile may fix it with another update.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
this is not first KK...maybe third KK for Z..

Just like Xperia SP...now is third 4.3 but still bugs not fixes and lagging
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
wow, even worse then.That makes me kinda do not want KK on SP.
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
Then don't bother complaining KitKat isn't available on the Xperia SP anymore! Lolz.
[Xperia SP General] Looser99:
So it seems like Sony needs atleast 2 or 3 bug fix updates to make a firmware stable. My question is, even if we get the kitkat update, will sony provide us with atleast 2 bug fix updates or will we end up with a buggy kitkat firmware ? I have this feeling that the kitkat update will be the last ever firmware update for Xperia Sp... I am gonna wait until Sony gives a proper stable version of kitkat. 4.3 is working good enough for me. Now lets wait and see which fixes are coming with .205 update :confused:
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
thats exactly what I thought after reading that article! :laugh: there are so many complaints about sony not delivering KK for SP when it is total failure (from what I have read) even for Z.
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
If Sony Mobile releases the Kit Kat update, they would update further to iron out the bugs and most likely not provide Android 4.5/5.0 update, since the 18 month window would be over starting end-October 2014. Problem is will they provide the 4.4 update or not...

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I'm not surprised the Xperia Z 4.4.2 update has a lot of bugs. Typical Sony, get the update available first, then fix the problems reported with FW update. It may sound bad, but actually at least they do add features while updating, unlike some manufacturers (cough - both SK players) which only brings the Android version up and nothing new to the table...
[Xperia SP General] Tatsuya94:
Is it safe to say that at the current state of thing we shouldnt update the phone to 4.3? As I might get an sp phone soon and im a bit worried about what Ive heard so far :/

Actually is it really that mandatory to use 4.3 instead of 4.1? (I mean for games and such)
[Xperia SP General] Cool Breaker:
4.3 is more advanced has open gl for gaming that's why
[Xperia SP General] Tatsuya94:
I understand that, its just that I feel uneasy to update the phone to a buggy and sluggish version of android

Are these issues there for everyone or for certain phones only? Right now it feels like a gamble trying to decide whether or not to take the risk

Hope you dont mind me asking if you have updated yours to 4.3 and if yes, is ot working smoothly?
[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
I have a lot of lags, force close, restarts, so I am not happy, a 4.1 is a more stable, WiFi turns on and off randomly, so I dont know what to say, If you can wait for more stable version of fw wait, 4.3 is more fancy because of new themes and ui, talking about full stock, phone 6 months old, and can heat a lot on 4.3. I thinks its same on all stock XSP. But some bugs are fixed, I can play music and surf, no lock bug, and things like that, but so laggy. Hope you will make a right decision, good luck.
[Xperia SP General] Lajbymester:
Don't update it, you will regret it. I used it twice, each time I've ended up in downgrading to 4.1 after one day of struggling with it. There are a lot of lags and also when you install an app or uninstall it, the phone freezes for about half a minute or even one minute, and also the SystemUI crashes (statusbar and navbar disappears) often while it's uninstalling or installing an app... Many times when I pressed the power button the phone woke up after 5 seconds. Sometimes I felt like it was even slower than my Xperia X8... Better wait for the new 4.3 update, hopefully it will be more stable and as fast as 4.1.
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
EXACTLY. I couldn't explain better.
[Xperia SP General] Looser99:
I am more then happy with my 4.3 update. I mean it still has a few minor bugs like bravia engine not working, screen flickering issue and ram management issue but my 4.3 is more fast, fluid and beautiful then 4.1 ever was. Gaming performance increased in 4.3, no wifi bug, new xperia themes and new smooth fluid user interface. Multitasking is way better then 4.1 rom. Though i have to restart my phone sometimes when ram runs low(likely because of the ram management issue) but its nothing major. I mean restarting only takes about a minute, right? Plus its the most beautiful firmware Sony has ever made imo. Shame that kitkat will ruin some of this beauty like lockscreen and non-transparent status bar. Anyways, the point is, i will recommend that you update your firmware to 4.3 but only after the upcoming .205 update is available. Note that while some users are reporting sluggish performance, lagging, force closing, restarting etc problems, some other users are not facing these problems. Maybe its a regional firmware bug or something like that, i don't know so update your phone at your own risk. Oh and don't forget to do a fresh update via SUS and after the update, clear your internal storage completely and do a factory reset from backup and restore menu in settings to be oversure. Not clearing internal storage after a major software update can cause some problems like sluggish performance, quick battery drain, overheating and other glitches in apps like albums, movies and walkman player etc. One of my friend was facing the same issues after updating his phone (Xperia Z1) to kitkat using SUS. I took his phone, cleared his internal storage, done a factory reset and voila ! His phone was normal and fast again. Not completely normal, i mean there still was sound bug and some other bugs but it was a firmware bug of which Sony pushed a fix later. Sorry for the very long post but i had to speak my mind :)
[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
Yes, I agree with you, forgot to mention that, also when I press power button the phone woke up after couple of minutes with vibration, which can be annoying or It shuts down, not just when installing/uninstalling, also when browsing with Boat browser.
[Xperia SP General] radheck:
I have 4.4.2 slim cat and is amazig what it works. Fluid faster safe . i coudnt be more happy.

Enviado desde mi C5303 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
one thing i missed frm KK is immersive mode. Its beautifull feature. We can do the same with gravity box. But you know guys. Its TOTALLY diffrent ''feels'' imho...

Still hope xsp will get kitkat. Even with bug. Coz here. In xda. We always have ways to fix any kind of ''bug''...

Just hope the best...
[Xperia SP General] igorass91:
I'm preffer 4.3. First of all you must root and remove all bloatware, then push old files of Bravia Engine from 4.1.2 and use some of tweaks for RAM management. You will see a little improve of performance.

Wysłane z mojego C5303 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
Thank god I never had any of those problems on stock 4.3
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
yeah, those are odd bugs...i haven't them too ...
[Xperia SP General] Tatsuya94:
Thanks for your reply, I think I may wait till they push the next update, just to be on the safe side ^^
[Xperia SP General] oneofthedudes:
I think firmwares belonging to some regions are facing problems and others aren't, can those who seem to be satisfied with their 4.3 tell which region their phone belongs to ?
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
my is central europe 1 :D
[Xperia SP General] Tatsuya94:
Hmm.you might say something with this, didn thought much about it though...
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
I was using CE as well and didn't have any issues whatsoever.
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
I use CE1, and have the freezes and lags problems.
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
hmm thats odd...i don't have those issues but i have one that nobody has...i loose multitasking when i connect my phone on charger :mad:

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did you try sus repair??? [MENTION=5757773]ben_linux[/MENTION]

edit: uh wrong quote :D [MENTION=4572810]pakatsui[/MENTION]
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
Yes I tried everything from starting with 4.1 ( which works correctly) to update on 4.3 via OTA, then Flash tool, then repair with SUS.... I must say that it became better than the previous OTA update I did, but still have lags and freezes. ( But no bugs for me )
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
i don't know, maybe those issues are device depending...too many peoples have too many different issues or bugs...i think this occurs only for our device, the famous XPERIA SP :D
[Xperia SP General] Lajbymester:
The first install was this one for me. Second time I searched for the CE version, but couldn't find it anywhere on the internet, so I downloaded a greek generic prerooted one, from here. Both had the same bugs... I think those bugs I've described don't happen on all devices, like the screen flickering bug... I didn't have it.
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
did you find ce version...if not i will give you a link :) and than try
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
Is your link the same as mine ? (12.1.1.201 Customized CE1 1272-3352_R1B ) ?

If not, I would like your link too please, I will retry for the 5th time :D
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
i don't see any link in your post...i have this one from updatechecker https://mega.co.nz/#!hY1giZQA!pZgKuHvYFMWSsorVkyLmlLYz-eqPKKJQwx_KMXYIyMs

but i have my own ftf but i have never uploaded thing...if you tell me which way is fastets to upload i'll do that for you and everyone who need this CE 1 which works good for me :)
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
Sorry for my English, I 'm French, so have no skills in languages by nature lol.

I will really appreciate if you can upload your own ftf. I'm ready for all the solutions I can find. You can upload with google drive and share with the people you want. This is the way I shared the rom of my previous device, Huawei G740 for a guy on XDA :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
ok, i will do that and i will post link here :) ok google drive, firs upload is coming :cool:
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
Thanks a lot :good:
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
this is gonna take a bit...my upload speed is very bad :mad:
[Xperia SP General] ben_linux:
I just tried this one. Was a bit laggy, so I decided to repair it with SUS, and it's even worse lol. WTF Sony did, seriously :silly:
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Don't listen to all the moaning. The only way is to try it yourself you can always revert back to 4.1 if you want. Personally my. 4.1 was terrible and had the flickering bug, constant redraws and no 4G support, after updating my device is smoother, faster and no redraws. The fact 4G and wireless work flawless is brilliant and no flickering bug or any sign of all the other mentioned one on here. I used the generic. Schwiez version and no problems at all. Brilliant stock firmware in my opinion
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
ok, try this and than sus repair... i am using it right now and its very good...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxiYk1_wO3D2NGV2ZFQwVmRSRFE/edit?usp=sharing
[Xperia SP General] kaushal9119:
I am using generic Indian version....completely satisfied. But before you flash this firmware be aware that this firmware is for 5302 so 4G wont work with it.
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I am not able to.understand why sus repair is required. These ftf are also created using the files of sus right!!!

Sent from my Huashan