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[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
This is 'the' drama http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51377395 what's the point of open another thread just to say the same? here in this forum no Sony related.... the same for the petition, I remember ppl asking for an update for a SE phone and sony gave their update, but was a big one petition, not like this (like the poll thread, what voters have? 100? 150? thats nothing for Sony), I said the same in that thread...

I know we costumers can make difference, but not like this, that's what I'm trying to say

As a note, Z has future version, then under investigation and now says next version for 4.4, there's more reasons to think 4.4 will arrive for SP, and still get all this negativity...
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Yeah.. I get your point. However, it shows many are concerned about this.. person who started that thread might not have seen this thread?? Who knows..

The consumer who paid for the device can react in many ways. We can't stop it. Anyone can express their views here regarding the topic of this thread I suppose.. we'll wait and see what happens..
[Xperia SP General] aursta:
As always here.. Blah blah.. Nothing new
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
Yes you are right.. I can do NOTHING. But at least i can use other brands like Samsung instead of sony by now on.

And i think there are a lot of people who will do like this.. This is the reason making sony weaker and weaker..

This story has been repeated many times.. For xperia x10 2.3.3 for Xperia play.. For xperia t and tx and now for xperia sp.. A little time later for zr and zl and blah blah..
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Something to think about before going to kitkat..

http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/20/before-upgrading-to-kitkat-be-wary-of-sd-card-restrictions/

Google becoming Apple?? lol
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
Did you read why before posting these posts?
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
So do you believe that their "security" claim is the prime reason for that limitation? I don't.. that's why the LOL part ;)

I posted this here because, SP users who badly want kitkat have an issue to resolve/take precaution before jumping to it..
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
so what? you can change it with root.
[Xperia SP General] feromgar:
This a case of "informed purchase" you don't buy electronic devices for what they "could do" you buy them for what they "can do."

If you base your decision on a "it could" you will most likely be upset when that "could" doesn't happen.

For the record we don't know if we will get kitkat or not, overreacting about something that is not clear yet is kinda moronic and annoying.
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
It's the security problem with the OS. We are using rooted phone and we don't care, but Google is a commercial company, they have to care about the OS for normal users including the security. If Google is something likes Cyanogen Inc, it's the whole difference. It's just like someone goes to your house and they can watch and use everything without ask your permission, even your wife, do you agree?
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Of course you can, if a method to root future stock kitkat for SP is found. It's better to know this limitation if someone goes ahead with OTA stock update..

---------- Post added at 11:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 PM ----------

Many working apps might break/functions crippled..

*third party file managers won't write to sd (goodbye total commander!),

*other media/gallery apps can't move around files in sd,

*pic editors can't save files anywhere on sd,

*office apps can't save modified files anywhere on sd,

*highlighted/modified pdf's cannot be saved there,

*ftp/samba servers (accessing phone files via wifi in laptop/pc) cannot write files to sd,

*cannot copy files to sd from a network/from my pc/laptop via wifi through third party apps,

*map apps/tomtom cannot save map data to sd (unless app updated to have its "own" folder),

*even asphalt8, in my case (downloaded via Sony Select) downloaded the data files straight to external sd, making it an issue unless app updated to circumvent the problem..

..etc.

Only 5GB available internal storage in SP makes life quite difficult for me with this new limitation.

---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43 PM ----------

Well.. I don't have anything comparable to a wife in my phone "house" LOL:D. I don't think it's a good idea to keep my important stuff in SD card.. unless encrypted.

According to those articles, the limitation is for writing into sd, not reading. So third party apps can see your things there, but can't write. Also, this limitation is in external sd card, not in internal emulated "sdcard" (if I understood correctly). What's the big security advantage in not allowing third party apps to write everywhere in external sd, but letting them write anywhere in internal sdcard?? (Of course, unless secured by permissions of the file system).

Eg: If some crappy banking app is creating a folder in external sd card (where FAT file systems don't have permission restrictions), is it fair to break functionality of many apps to give "security" to that folder?? Google does brilliant things, but makes life difficult also!

For me, this limitation is bad news! (Hence, I posted it in this 'kitkat news' thread). If you think that change is good for you, it's ok with me.:cool:
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
And if you root, all your apprehensions are GONE.

The kitkat limitations will have easy work around with an xposed module even
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
The root method will be the same as android 4.3, downgrade and rom flashing
[Xperia SP General] Depump:
Bad news

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...pdate-Weekly-Wrap-27th-March-2014/ba-p/326681

MR cancelled by Sony. Awaiting new software for testing.
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
Well, I have no idea on what Google is doing. It's security problem for the OS and they are doing right for normal user. But I'm using a rooted phone so I don't care about the limit cause there is some way to remove that restriction.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
I already mention about that on my previous post...

Sony will be certified new firmware soon...;)
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
And we have to wait until april for bug fixes..
[Xperia SP General] Cawts:
April is next week ;)
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
The Sony Xperia SP Facebook Page got this picture.

Now, I dont want to state anything but this seems a tiny bit logical.
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
Is he a sony representative?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Dunno, the users on that Facebook Page are asking the same..
[Xperia SP General] vite74:
Am i the only one quite happy with this phone? I like the 4.3 firmare, more than 4.1.2... i just want BE2 working back... But for my use i don't see all the bugs that probably many people see..

It is just a consideration..

Cheers
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Not only you ;) I am happy with it too :)

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[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
UK has not received the update so I'm still on 4.1 but have no complaints about the phone. Funny thing is I have most of the bugs people are moaning about as being new. I have the flickering screen bug, the speaker turning on when answering (although I think that's a design as it does it when away from ear for a few seconds but ok if I put it to my ear within 2 seconds of answering) also have the illumination thing with calls people keep saying is a bug and over 50% volume my led beat lights are solid. But overall still very happy with phone
[Xperia SP General] Bazilli:
So much bugs in every firmware and still no official fix from Sony. This is total BS imo. Samsung has mutch bugs too, but at least they get fixed in time..
[Xperia SP General] zincir:
This advice was given to me for the same problem of the speaker turning on when receiving calls both normally and with skype: Deinstall chrome updates. For some reason there lies the problem. Weird but try it and see for yourself.
[Xperia SP General] @non4:
For me it just remembers. If speaker was on when last call ended it will be on for current call

Sent while my supervisor wasn't looking
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
New firmware 12.1.A.2.209 has certified today...

April Fool :p
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I realy hate april fools day...
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
That's why Muslim forbidden to celebrate this fool...o

yup, same with me..i really hate too
[Xperia SP General] leandroprez26:
I really hate too........

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[Xperia SP General] alone_in_dark:
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Making everybody full and then posting "muslim disallowed" is useless bro... If u r celebrating it and posting these words... what are the importance of these words then...?? :eek:
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
lol....i typing error again....done edit
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
guyz does anyone have a bootloop problem with 4.3???

i seem to get a bootloop problem from time to time, it fixes when i take sim out and memory card out

even when these are out, pressing power button causes crash

does anybody else get this same problem??
[Xperia SP General] Ashu1307:
May be due to applying New themes which are available in play store

After applying theme, pressing power button to lock the screen results in bootloop :(

Hope new update will resolve the issue
[Xperia SP General] Siddhesh:
No never had this kind of problem
[Xperia SP General] casouzaj:
I'm running dipesh1502's Ultimate PureXSP v1.04 ROM, which is 4.3 based. I recall having experienced this behavior once, right after I decided to turn my SD card to NTFS. As v1.04 got sluggish as soon as I ran the Paragon app, I reverted back to v1.01. Then I got bootloops and had to remove my SD card in order to have my phone booted again . I installed v1.04 again with the card in, now letting Paragon run automatically only. I just have to mount my SD card in storage settings after I notice that Paragon has been launched, after each and every boot. All fine thus far.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/01/sony-rep-says-xperia-sp-not-getting-kitkat/

Bad news about 4.4 but still hoping
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Just read back my old post

:(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51229192&postcount=3610
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Another April 1st joke?? :P

Officially still "under investigation". So, let them "investigate" (whatever it means!!) and wait for official news. We'll see whether Sony is a big liar or not!
[Xperia SP General] dev neo:
sign petiton for kitkat

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-SP/4-4-KITKAT-UPDATE-FOR-XPERIA-SP-petition/td-p/609359

this is link for signing petition fort sony xperia sp to get kitkat .more 638 needed..post your reason & reviews there to get our amazing sp a kitkat update.share link,too :) sorryif i 've spammed here.

sorry for bad english.
[Xperia SP General] stian3ddd:
Guys !!!!!!!!!!

Look at that ! http://www.sonymobile.com/pl/software/phones/xperia-sp/

Wersja systemu Android: Google Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)

Najnowsze dostępne oprogramowanie: 12.1.A.1.201

Rozpoczęła się premiera: 2014-04-02

In my country !
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
I know it says that new firmware is rolling out.

But please follow the rules.:P
[Xperia SP General] corwin_x007:
Woo hoo, can't wait till I get home and try it. Anyone know what is fixed in this release?

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[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
For now only sony knows:D
[Xperia SP General] krump_lee:
ooppps what a surprise, but i do not change my awsome cm10.2 with locked BL
[Xperia SP General] st3ch:
UK update..naaah we can wait....
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
Since we received the 4.3 bug fixing update, maybe it is the right time to wait for the kitkat ;)

By the way, thank you sony for fixing some bugs. We, all the sp users, hoping for another big update. We want to taste kitkat. :)
[Xperia SP General] hapss:
Xperia SP get Kit Kat, its almost official now.

Translate:

Q: Is that true that Xperia SP wont get Kit Kat?

A: No, its get Kit Kat :)
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
Maybe, but I think all regional Sony Mobile knows only one thing - nothing. They just looking official site for news. Just IMHO, guys. Let's wait for official statement.
[Xperia SP General] Gamer R:
If you remember, when Android 4.3 got delayed , Sony didn't update their Xperia SP product page. It used to show Next Version Android 4.3 01-2014 (Something like that)
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
12.1.A.1.201

Speeeeeddddyyyyy.

No more FC on high end games. Graphic performance is way so much better.

Never been this happy and satisfied with my Xsp!

Sony dwserves a BIG THANK YOU for the latest update. ;)
[Xperia SP General] damin26:
C5303_12.1.A.1.201_Generic GR (GREEK ftf)

Hey guyz!!

I made a STOCK GREEK UNBRANDED ftf file and I am posting the torrent file here. Please seed! :victory:
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Agree with you sir.. ths update is so great... wayy better than before.. i hope itsnt stop here (i mean. We'll get kitkat anytime soon)...
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Yep everything working smooth

Battery shouldnt disappoint
[Xperia SP General] jancsessz:
12.1.A.1.201_kernel_Only.ftf

https://mega.co.nz/#!IlhElbCJ!eye_OhMHxOnro3R3aasRWWkIroLcq4HpEomxI7YCdU0
[Xperia SP General] MagicMagicD:
Update distribution for the Xperia SP based on the customisation numbers known to Xperia Checker as of 2014-04-03:

By Android version:

Jelly Bean 4.1: 28%

Jelly Bean 4.3: 72%

By Sony update version:

12.0.A.1.257: 1%

12.0.A.2.254: 27%

12.1.A.0.266: 42%

12.1.A.1.201: 30%

So there's still a decent proportion of XSP's restricted to 4.1 (mine included) through official channels. Shame really as we're now over a month on from the start of the 4.3 rollout. With that said, it's anyone with a Mobistar BE branded phone I feel the most sorry for as they are still stuck using the oldest of the still available 4.1 firmwares, 12.0.A.1.257.
[Xperia SP General] kteruya:
Hi,

I've made the update via PCC but i'm still getting 201 update center notification. Anyone else with the same problem?

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[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Same here. And when i apply that update and reboot. It say error...
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
same here
[Xperia SP General] kteruya:
Guys,

Got a solution!

Settings => Apps => All => Update Center => Force Stop => Clear Data

Hooray!!!
[Xperia SP General] danlat1415:
The Sony Xperia UK website says KIT KAT is currently under construction for the Xperia SP.

See bottom of page where is lists: launch version, current version and future version

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-sp/

Looks promising!!
[Xperia SP General] lukaskonvica:
Nope there is under investigation
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
It's under investigation my friend
[Xperia SP General] danlat1415:
Sorry, my mistake.

Still better than saying no future updates.
[Xperia SP General] ZakooZ:
It used to say "next version" and then they changed it to "under investigation" so no, it doesn't look promising
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
or you want this happen on our devices...:p

LINK
[Xperia SP General] TsunaH:
So after all kitkat will be released on ours xsp?

Sent from me
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
best trolling ever :p
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
Nope, it was just a joke.
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
is that real? the link is real???
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
nope, it's modified
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Yup...I make this for only jokes...I know..you all guys want kitkat right...
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Of course he used Photoshop and the Inspect Elements option in Goole Chrome -_-

Besides according to a Sony Representative SP is not getting KitKat as said in Xperia Blog so just buy Z1c like Im doing
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
yeah, buy sony again and complain in xperia z1c forum :p
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
I've got a feeling that my next phone will be a Nexus. Should have bought Nexus 4 instead of the SP in the first place.
[Xperia SP General] KiaTheKing:
Nexus 4 is too old buy xperia z or nexus 5.For example im bored of xsp and i will wait 15 days more to nexus 5 come to my country after that i will buy it.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
my next phone won't be an android, I am fed up with android, ios is far more stable and the UI of all apps is much better, plus the good quality of the iphone and the support of apple even after 2-3-4 years.
[Xperia SP General] PAINfájdalom:
apple make software update only for 4 phones. for example SONY made 4.4 for Z1-2, Ultra, Compact, Z, ZL, ZR, and will make for Xperia T2 Ultra, Xperia E1 and Xperia M2. and if we are lucky, we get 4.4, there are 10 phones. so which is better? :rolleyes:
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
we all know the quality of software Sony makes..even xperia Z1c 4.4 firmware had sound bugs, let's not talk about the bugs .266 had and the bugs .201 still has
[Xperia SP General] xEaGLeNeC:
I had a nexus 4 running kitkat 4.4.2. It may be older than SP, but it sure felt faster. I could multitask a lot more there and don't feel any lag at all. But the nexus 4 has a lot of problems too (sleep of death, lack of external storage, ****ty battery).
[Xperia SP General] PAINfájdalom:
and iPhone 4 has lagg by the iOS 7
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
it's because iphone 4 can't handle ios 7 as newer iphones ..if iphone 4 was a sony's product it wouldn't get any updates beyond ios 6 :p
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
how can i switch off my phone with the OFF BUTTON at the back of the phone? or may be, rebooting the phone is it's only function.
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
This is why I'm getting Z1c... If you want the updates you gotta have cash

iOs sucks for me it's for guys who don't want to exploit their phone's potential and besides what am I going to do with a weak processor
[Xperia SP General] snookermeaw:
Press it for 8 sec.
[Xperia SP General] shadelpurple:
Thanks sony!!! Sony UK announces KitKat for SP!!!
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
Sure about it??? A link out there??
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
1st April is gone bro :cowboy:
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
F***k april folks xD you made.me suffering for a moment
[Xperia SP General] freedom74:
Some fools last longer than just one day :)
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
Dont get stuck with that stupid laggy 4.3 stock rom, go install Existenz guys, my Sp has never been smoother :victory:
[Xperia SP General] heikoell:
My so is still on 4.1.2 and I don't get any updates?can someone help?
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
yup.... PureXPERIence Sirius and existenz are the best two roms for me!!! good look and best performance...:)
[Xperia SP General] HerrDeacon:
I'm still waiting on the 201 update but was totally fed up with the extreme lag caused by 266, it was unbearable. The simplest tasks took forever. So I did a factory reset today and then removed/disabled all the unwanted stock apps and what a difference. Its back to the snappy phone it was when I bought it, happy again.
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Reply from Sony Xperia support about kitkat "under investigation":

[With regards to your query, on Software update. kindly note that "under investigation" mentioned in sony software update page are referring to the investigation period where our development team are testing the full compatibility of a new android version with existing devices.

The page will be updated accordingly when the development team finished testing and decide whether to launch new updates or to remove the "under investigation" sign altogether.]

:rolleyes:

Screenshot:
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Why do people keep adding Sony the same question and posting the results all of which are the same. There is no news here. It has been the same answer for weeks. WAIT AND SEE.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Like Joker said in Dark Knight:

We are all dogs chasing a car... we wudnt know what to do when we catch it.

Except that we are dogs, n 4.4 is the car.

If that car turns out to be ****, what then?
[Xperia SP General] niaboc79:
Because people like to talk for nothing...

All this thread is useless! Nobody knows nothing, the guys from Sony supports doesn't have any concrete informations, they are just reading things like us on Sony websites but they don't have any contacts with Sony dev.

Also the same for carriers, what they claims on their support site is only speculation.

Here's the reality, each phone have his particular team of dev. The updates are not delayed or things like that due to other Xperia. Each phone is a separate entity.

The Xperia SP and the Xperia Z are sharing the same devs according to me due to many similarities in the code.

The SP will have KitKat for sure because it need less specs than JB 4.3 and they have all requested drivers.

Now just wait because developing take a lot of time ;)

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[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
A word from a dev and we are satisfied:):P;)
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
[MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION]

yup, that's true...

i have already members with sony developers team...

developers from sony still no confirmation for xperia will get or not...

just need wait...

:laugh:
[Xperia SP General] shprakash:
i really don't understand, Wen Xperia M2 getting 4.4 then y SP cant..

M2 has lower spec then SP...

jus a processor differs that's it (M2 has Quad Core & SP has Dual core).

adreno for M2 is 305 but SP has lot better then tat adreno 320...

feel sad......:(
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Guys, why are you wasting time discussing and speculating over something I posted? Sony update policy is clear. "They are testing the new build on our device, so wait for it. If we don't get the update, we can't officially do anything about it!" ;) Nothing more to discuss IMO.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
I wasn't discussing it. i was pointing out that your post gives no news that we don't already know. There are at least one of these posts per day and it doesn't matter what they say the final outcome is we will have to wait until its official. These posts along with the petition posts are doing nothing more than clogging up the boards with nothing more than trivial information that means nothing and they should be banned.
[Xperia SP General] silveraero:
The most important thing IS there is NO OFFICIAL WORD of SONY about we won't get. So why do you guys just yell like child that we won't get and so feel sad, disappointed. Remember, there are some guys in SONY say yes, some say no. So, just wait official word from SONY instead believe in those guys.
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
If already know it, why speculation all this long? It's a statement of someone representing Sony, clarifying the update status. If you think it means nothing, over someone's speculative opinion, you may report the post to get it banned. I'm sorry that you couldn't understand that it also says you to WAIT while the new build is being tested, to decide whether to release it or not!
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Lol. You people crack me up. I'm not speculating anything. UK still didn't have 4.3 so 4.4 is miles away and I don't care if I get it or not. I'm just fed up logging in and seeing the same statement from 50 different sources all saying either yes we are getting our no we are not. Why can't people just wait for official statement. Why feel the need to email someone asking them what's happening when all they do is tell you exactly what has been on the Sony site for the past month. Why do we need constant posts telling us what we already know. The last post clarified NOTHING and tomorrow there will be another clarifying NOTHING and then on Thursday another petition well be launched to get 4.4 when a decent 4.3 won't even be fully rolled out. That's what I'm saying. Why not stop the constant we are/ are not getting kit Kat debate and posts until there is an official statement from Sony.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Maybe its why they call us humans.

We are stupid by nature, even though many wont accept. ;p ;p ;p