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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] elite-fusion:
Yes, I definitely understand that, but I am using a TMobile sim card, logged into Tmobile towers, using Tmobile 4G LTE network, but the hardware/firmware is Verizon, so that is why I am asking if it is doable to get this working? Perhaps if flashing a rom or something?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jason4962:
Could it be a hardware issue? Tmobile special band which does noy jave in the verizon phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] elite-fusion:
I don tknow, thats why im asking you guys lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Skipjacks:
Your best bet is to call T Mobile tech support and ask them. You've got a really obsscure question that probably has to deal with the frequencies the 2 devices communicate on that no one here has probably ever dealt with. T Mobile is going to be the quickest way to get this answer.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] elesbb:
The T-Mobile cel-fi operates at the 1700MHz aws frequencies. According to this thread they are not enabled by default on the Verizon galaxy s4. So that's why it's not picking up the signal from the cel-fi.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] laurent.gil:
Cel-Fi RS1 vs RS2

Guys,

I work for Cel-Fi - it looks like you are correct.

The RS2 Cel-Fi (the latest one) will boost 2 bands: 1.9GHz (aka PCS, Band 2) + AWS

BUT the older RS1 (we dont sell it anymore) will only boost AWS and not Band 2...

Check here for details on the Bands 2 and 4, and here for definitions of the bands...

It looks like the S4 gets 1900 band 2 (specs S4 for T-Mobile UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE)

Let us know which Cel-Fi you have...

Regards,

Laurent
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] elesbb:
I have the RS1 (older one) got it for 90 bucks on ebay :)

Works great!

And since you work for Cel-Fi, does the RS2 model boost the LTE signal for T-Mobile or not? From what i am reading, it does not.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] utsc:
Sorry for my ignorance but how is the Verizon Galaxy S4 able to connect to T Mobile let alone LTE? Is Verizon S4 a pentaband phone? I think my knowledge is outdated but I was under the impression that Verizon uses CDMA
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] serio22:
They do, it switches to global mode (GSM) when you insert a non-verizon sim.. Most CDMA smartphones have this capability nowadays, which they did not before.. Verizon is the only carrier I know that does not lock the gsm radio on their phones, I think Sprint's phones are sim locked
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] egren58:
I'll sell the new cell-fi
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] morrow:
Hi guys,

I am currently using the orange spv m500, I upgraded radio rom to 1.13 and the last orange update for the 1.12 rom.

What will happen if I choose a rom from another operator (e.g. tmob)? How do I get the setttings from my current provider back (GPRS, MMS) ? (only settings! not interested in all the programs, I will reinstall all necessary software manually; it's still windows :? )

Will there be any software installed from the rom of another operator? if so, will this prevent to set my orange settings back?

Thanks!

By the way, why are there barely any custom orange roms?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] oltp:
No problem at all, just backup your current rom. Flash with the new rom, prevent ext-rom from starting or go directly for BIG Storage & apply the setting cabs for gprs etc.

Cheers, M

Ps. Dutch how to's are available.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] morrow:
which cabs from external storage

great, big storage it probably is! Hoping the new rom will also work with the extended bluetooth stack from this forum.

besides that, it gives me the opportunity to get rid of the horrible fonix voice dailing app.....completely useless with a long contact list....

fonix voice dail: "would you like to update your contacts?" NO! "please speak more clearly"...NOOOOOOO! (....people in the bus staring at you.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: )

anyway, does anyone know which cabs from the external storage are absolutely necessary for orange?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] oltp:
The one thing you really need is the Orange network settings. Get a copy of WinCE CabManager (>10 trial executions) to view what's inside your Orange cabfiles. Usually the name says it all. Then after an upgrade you can easily decide what to load & what not.

Besides on BIG Storage a hard-reset its all it takes to get rid of an unwanted Orange program. So make a list of things you wanna keep, execute the ext-rom cabs on look what it gives you. Gambled wrong? Hard-reset & start again, doesn't take so much time as long as you don't install other third-party apps during this process.

Cheers, M
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] dimshik100dev:
Hi,

i'm trying to add a new panel, but the option is disabled.

currently i have 5 panels.

is there a way to add more than 5 ?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] DNarsingh:
That is the stock max amount of panels. The Sense 5 Toolbox Xposed Module can let you change it to 7:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44650768&postcount=2
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] dimshik100dev:
thank You :)
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] yossio:
You can always install a new launcher.

Tell me if you want some launchers recommendations :)
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] dimshik100dev:
yes please :)
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] yossio:
In my opinion Nova Launcher is the cleanest and the best one

If you want some more eye-candy, then next launcher is recommended

Are you lookning for something fast or more beautiful animated launcher?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] dimshik100dev:
i'am looking for something fast actually ...

are there some others that you recommend beside those ?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] dimshik100dev:
and please add some links if you can.

thank you very much.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc276:
I really like the phone and think the screen is fine in most areas...but it's very yellow. The whites aren't really whites and, compared to my HTC One, the difference is striking. Yes, I know the One has an extremely cold screen while the Nexus has a warm screen, but there has to be a happy medium here, right? I think this is clearly just a calibration problem that can be fixed with a software tweak, so does anyone have any ideas? It's literally the only thing I'm not happy about.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Maybe it can be adjusted for in software, but I don't believe this is just a calibration issue. I also don't think it's color temp, precisely, because that should be either bluish cold or reddish warm, not urine yellow (sorry, best way to describe it). I've seen this on many devices over the last few years, from ASUS Transformers to iPads to the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. The only device I've bought where I didn't have at least one with a yellow screen was my Nexus 4, and I'm pretty sure I was just lucky the first time out--plenty of people complained about this on their Nexus 4s.

I think it's some kind of manufacturing variability, with the intended design specs (and software calibration) to have truer whites and deeper colors (washed out UI colors go along with the yellow tint). Personally, I can't accept it--the problem also shows itself as a lack of contrast in UI elements, such as the browser address bar against the background gray, or text fields in Hangouts. On the yellowish displays, there's almost no contrast, and so the fields can actually be hard to make out sometimes.

Thing is, if you never have two devices to hold side-by-side, then you may never notice the issue. You'll just think that colors are washed out, because that's more obvious by itself than the off-color whites.

I went through four iPad 3s before getting one with true whites, and more Nexus 7s and Nexus 10s than I'll admit to. I just hate it, personally, and honestly the Nexus 5 hasn't been so great so far that I'll go through the same number to get one that's acceptable. I have a replacement on its way (my audio output is also a bit distorted), and if that one's the same then I might give up on this year's Nexus and get an LG G2 instead.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc276:
Interesting. Yesterday I was actually angry and posted the phone on Swappa. Today I've been much nicer toward the subject. But if it's really due to the manufacturing process, I might just swap it for a Moto X. Either way, I'm not sure. I still need to decide.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tremblingwater:
Best thing would be to wait for the dev's and see what they come up with. They did great with the N4, so I'm hoping it'll be the same on the N5. I do think the display is incredibly warm. Having it side by side with my N4 is striking.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrBelter:
A warm white balance is yellowish not red. At low levels my N5 is massively warm next to my N4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Yes, thanks, you're right--color temp does go through yellow as it gets warmer before getting to red. So, thanks for the correction.

That said, it's not a _consistent_ thing, or at least hasn't been in the past with other devices. I have a Nexus 10, for example, that is much colder (with white whites, not blueish, so I'm calling it right in the middle) than many others that I tried out side-by-side. It also seems to get better with given devices as the manufacturing process goes on--for example, it was a problem early in the lifecycle of the iPad 3 but then became consistently over time (if forum complaints about it can be taken as evidence).

So, personally, I think that it's simply very difficult to make consistent LCD panels with these resolutions and at these price points. Perhaps someone like LG does a better job of quality control in making their higher-priced G2 than they do screens for their Nexus 5; I haven't read about this being a problem with the LG G2's screen, which I think is similar technology.

Anyways, it definitely makes an impact on the quality of the experience. I might be much more sensitive to it than others, and some people might actually prefer their screen warmer--although I wonder if they would if they hold it next to a screen that has truer whites. Really, the difference in contrast is what's most striking, to me at least.

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Oh, and, I think you're right about the brightness levels as well-it does seem to get a touch better when the screen is brighter.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
this also happened with the iphone 5s..it was fixed a few weeks later..our phones have only just been made and the glue takes on average 2 to 3 weeks to dry completely and then become transparent..relax
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Here's a really good article discussing what's going on here: http://www.eizo.com/global/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/

Look at about 3/4 down the page, they have examples that demonstrate what we're seeing quite nicely. Not only are whites more yellow, but to my eyes colors wash out the warmer the display.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
This guy is right. Give it a week and it will get better. Not perfect, but it won't be as yellow.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same as the glue issue. That's typically only on parts of the screen, and I've seen this too many times on other devices where out of the box one is terribly warmer than another and it never resolves.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
You're right , when it's a glue problem usually there's just spots, not a solid yellow tone over the screen, so what can we do? try to exchange the phone, are there nexus 5 with colder screen or are they all so yellow? :(

I had a galaxy nexus with a terribly yellow screen, let me tell it NEVER got better , even after months of use :crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
This video shows the difference between the N4 and N5. Wait until it gets to the browser speed comparison, you can see the screen is yellower on the N5 and the UI contrast is less. Note that the apparent difference on mine is much greater, so either this is variation or the video mutes the difference.

http://fullyc.com/watch-speed-test-every-google-nexus-phone-see-wonders-nexus-5/
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
other n4 had it and later was fixed..i remember when i had it on mine
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
You mean with new batches of the phone? :(
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Fixed by Google or by a custom ROM?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
both
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc276:
Probably not. I don't think anything is wrong with the screens of our phones. They're just calibrated wrong by Google or LG.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EdZ:
Comparing my Nexus 5 by eye to my calibrated (sRGB, 6500k white point) monitor, the Nexus 5 has a very slight blue push. The Nexus 4, however, is INCREDIBLY blue. Like 9300k blue. If you're used to the Nexus 4, the Nexus 5 will look yellow, but it's the Nexus 4 that is out of whack in this case.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caribouxda:
Return it. No yellows here.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
Could you post pictures comparing it to other phones ? Your laptop maybe ? ;)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ethantarheels123:
I'm starting to think that those who think that the screen on the N5 is yellow is just accustomed to a screen with a really cold white point (almost all phones are, including the HTC One). That being said, I do still think the N5 needs proper calibration, but it's not far off from 6300k.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
Please compare it to a phone which in your opinion has accurate colors and you will see that were not exaggerating ?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] namartlu:
Would the OP please put [Q] and ? in the title? Kind of misleading. :(
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cliffspab:
Side by side with my colleague's N5, mine had a far more urine tinted screen. His was fine.

So there is definitely variation in the displays

Waiting for my replacement. Will update.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ethantarheels123:
well I compared it first hand to an HTC One, which is why I made that example, and the temperature is only slightly warmer. Considering the One's screen is slightly cooler than neutral, maybe the N5's is slightly warmer than neutral. Again, there might be variation in N5's screens so what I am seeing may not be what you are seeing.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
Someone posted over at the Google Support group that he received 16GB and 32GB units, one for himself and one for his wife. Her 32GB unit has the yellowish tint, his 16GB version does not. Thus, we have verification in at least this one case that there's screen variation: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/XmRTZ9IyBl0/qUvDt6h--_UJ

So, here's another question: if you have the yellow tint, is yours a 16GB or a 32GB unit? It might just be coincidence that her 32GB and my 32GB N5s both have the yellow tint, or it might not be.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
I think you might be onto something :eek: mine is the 32 gb version (white) and it DEFINITELY has the yellow tint :crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loganno:
Guys i have a Nexus 5 white 32gb, with yellow tint screen. With a custom kernel is able to improve the display?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Synyster06Gates:
I've got a white 32gb and my display is beautiful. Looks like perfect white to me... Unlike the S3s which had a noticeable tint and way too much contrast/saturation
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intothevoid:
That would be me who posted that. And I will post pics tonight when I go home. Another friend of mine has a white 32gb and that has no yellow tint. I thought this was limited to the black versions but considering that some white versions have the same issue than that it's more wide spread.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
So far, I'm most encouraged that it's possible to get a good screen. If there was no variation, I'd probably have to give up in the N5 and try something like the LG G2.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intothevoid:
Side by Side

I don't know if you can tell the difference but it's there. I already submitted an RMA for it. The 32GB is the one with the issue.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
You're kidding.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shilent:
I do not see a difference.

Here is my Black 32GB next to my Nexus 4. I already ordered a replacement. If I see a difference with the replacement, I'll post another side by side pic.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dnalevelc:
Damn that is quite yellow. I have a 32GB and I have a nice white screen.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cliffspab:
Yep, that's pretty much how mine looks
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avus_m3:
Now that is a difference unlike the prior example which is pretty nit picking.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
holy smokes..here is mine..the first days it was kinda yellowish but it is fading away
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cheater912:
Does the screen seemed washed out because I'm used to my AMOLED Galaxy S4?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vincent Law:
I find it hilarious that people think an RMA is going to fix color calibration.

Folks, the screen's not yellow. It's warm. A good color calibrated display SHOULD be warm. Many phones and low quality (TN panel) computer screens are calibrated towards an extremely blue white point.

This may "look" more white, but here's the problem. You know where else you see those ultra-blue whites? Those big old flourescent lights. Yes, that's right, you're demanding that your phone look more like the sickly blue-white that offices have been infected with for decades.

The reason warm temperature colors are preferred for color accuracy is because that's how most of us see light. The sun, being the most significant producer of light on earth, is not a blue-white. It's a yellow-orange white. By aiming at a warmer color temperature, photos and movies will look much more like the real world. It's also easier and less straining on the eyes.

Finally, the reason it may seem to "fade" is simply perception. As you get used to the screen looking warmer than you're accustomed to, it'll perceptibly seem less warm, even if it's not. Trying to compare from memory is frankly the most unscientific and unreliable method of comparing anything. Your brain simply doesn't retain detail like that. The only way to appropriately measure it is to use a color meter. No, photos won't cut it, your camera must also make choices on color temperature and it can get it very wrong.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cliffspab:
But different N5's have significantly different levels of "warmth"
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chad_Petree:
Mine looks exactly like the phone on the left , it's annoying but after seeing this picture, I think I'm gonna keep it, the one on the right is unnaceptable :eek:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eep2378:
Finally, someone makes a good factual point. Thank you for this. That's why displays are calibrated to 6500K(natural color of daylight) :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Synyster06Gates:
So many complaints about something that isn't even an issue...

Left to right here is my comparison of the Nexus 5, LG Optimus F6, then an Iphone 4s,
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Synyster06Gates:
Huh? Even looking at my computer and back at the N5, the colors are just about the same. It's clearly gray on white. More than enough contrast. Only at extreme angles do I see a change.

Surely you don't think that the address bar is supposed to be a dark gray? As for as showing all the address bars, that would be useless. One phone on Chrome, one on Explorer, and one on Safari.

ONE more thing to edit in. If you look at the search options you can see both on the N5 and partially on the F6. The N5 has more contrast against the white background of the google page. You can barely see the difference between the two on the F6.

For the hell of it, here's my laptop that, while has more of a cool blue white than the N5, the contrast is about the same.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ptscon:
You can't compare devices unless you have one that you know is right as a reference. By right I mean it has been measured by an external tool and not by your eyes/personal interpretation of what is white.

My N5 looks "yellower" than my S4, yet it's whiter than my sRGB NEC monitor.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vincent Law:
Based on what? If you're looking at photos, you can't make that comparison. Cameras can completely alter the color temperature of what they photograph. You can literally take two photos of the same device in slightly different lighting and the device will look extremely blue, and then extremely yellow.

Okay? Of course bad panels exist. If you literally can't read text because the whole screen is off color (this usually happens because one of the leads to the panel is damaged), that's completely different issue. We're talking about the Nexus 5 being warmer than other devices here.

Honestly I have absolutely no problems with the contrast here, even looking at screenshots of the device on my calibrated monitor at a warm temperature. If your eyes have trouble discerning the difference between text with such a little difference as a color temperature change, then you should look into accessibility options like high contrast modes.

There is zero evidence that there is actually a lot of variability here. That's the real issue in this thread. People are making completely anecdotal claims to color which is insane. You literally cannot know if your phone is warmer/cooler than someone else's without a color meter. Taking a photo/video, describing the color, that's useless. I could take photos of my phone right now that makes it look GREEN if I wanted, just by putting the photo frame in different lighting conditions. Cameras are worse than eyes in this regard. They have to guess at the color temperature, and even a $1000 DSLR can vary wildly if left to its own devices.

I'm more willing to believe that it's perception, since that's more based in evidence, instead of the completely unprovable situation you suggest.

Some reviewers are more familiar with color theory and understand how color temperature works. Or they use warmer devices/color calibrated monitors in their work. Generally, any reviewer with any sort of photography experience (read: a lot of them) understands color theory and thus won't claim a display looks washed out when it's not.

Meanwhile, the average person just compares it to their old 9300K white point phone and goes "WOW, THIS WHITE IS SO YELLOW NOW". It's not yellow, it's warmer. There's no such thing as a pure white to our eyes.

Moving to a cooler temperature doesn't make a display less washed out, by the way. This is important! All you're doing is moving the goalposts around. You gain range in some areas, but you lose it in the exact same ratio elsewhere. Not to mention it makes people's faces look like they're pale and sick, which is why the cooler temperature isn't preferable in the first place (it's not what your eyes see in real life).
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wynand32:
By the way, I have to say: if the screens were all calibrated to 6500K, then there would be no variability. The problem is, there's wide variation, and I challenge anyone to say for certain that the yellowish screens are the ones that are correctly calibrated.