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[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
No, it's just that not everyone needs a phone with top specs, they are people who don't need 2 GB of RAM -.-

I bet this E1 with 512 mb of ram will receive KitKat faster than SP ^^

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Bah E1 that rubbish phone, the weaker phones always get the better updates. Xperia L got 4.2.2, heck even the Moto G and X were promised an official 4.4 update. Even my V got a leaked 4.3 update faster than SP

Why can't they provide an update for a phone waaaay stronger than those.

EDIT: Yeah doomlord was first to post, but xperia v got it first. considering the fact that it is way older than sp.

Now I am having temptations to but the Z1 compact. Imagine that quad core 2.2's speed powrering a display even smaller than the SP's. Hell, the SP is already blazing fast for me I wonder how fast the z1 compact would be
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Wrong, DoomLord posted the leaked 4.3 for the SP at first.
[Xperia SP General] dontknow773:
Sony does not care how is the performance of phone, but how many pieces of each device were sold ;) if you sold for example 1M pcs of E1 and only 2K pcs of SP, which would you support more?

Odoslané z C5303 pomocou Tapatalku
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
That Implication would be practical and of course I would support the E1 since the sales is an important asset of a business but of course XSP has a good spec- to - price ratio and giving it the update it truly deserves would boost sales
[Xperia SP General] Draqula:
Moto is owned by Google, so it's almost Nexus territory, that's why G and X are probably getting more than other phones in same class/age.
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
*sigh* Google, Sony should release the ftf for those countries who receive updates late
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
Just got this from twitter

"Gradual roll out" ... don't know what it meant...

Gradually rolling out? / Will roll out eventually?

MOD EDIT: Picture with sensitive information removed
[Xperia SP General] jishneo:
Gradual Roll Out ?? Seriously?? .... they should better be corrected instead it should be Gradual TROLL Out!! :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] Rubecula:
Yeah gradually means that the update won't be available for everyone at the same time. It doesn't mean they already started the roll-out.
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
Lol, I love that tweet, it actually says nothing haha. All I wish for is that the Xperia Z1 Compact indeed has a way better screen then the XSP :D

They have the same screen resolution... So that thing about the screen well it doesn't make sense ;)
[Xperia SP General] Aravinth_sm:
guys like I said earlier, you won't find the update anytime soon, only option left is, to wait indefinitely or you can sell off your device and buy any other Mobile(definitely not Sony).
[Xperia SP General] megaxp:
Sony fake trollface
[Xperia SP General] heavyhms:
Do you think that the other manufacturers release updates always on time and they are always free of bugs? You are deluded

Just wait: will be relased When Done!
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
Chances are big I will buy another Sony phone! Z1 Compact :)

But only after it dropped at least 100€-150€ in price hehe and if the screen is a lot better. My Xiaomi M2S just tears down the XSP screen when talking about quality (and it is way better in direct sunlight).

Only reason Im curious for the update is because of there might be an official release of CM10.2? (And of course this thread is funny to read sometimes)
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
I'm actually having a hard time trying to sell mine, at least for the right price.. people looking for a new device for ~200€ are not dumb and choose the moto g instead, like I would.. a brand new phone with the latest android version and decent specs, there's no reason for buying an outdated secondhand and buggy xperia sp. I thought it would be easier with the new update, bugs fixed, new version, etc.. but sony doesn't even let me do that, clingy MFs
[Xperia SP General] SKA67:
However, Samsung's best works

Now they are ready to provide 4.4

And we 're still thinking 4.3
[Xperia SP General] sss2sssss:
I'll still wait for the SP's 4.3 update even it's late, since I feel like the 4.3 and 4.4 are not big different in my Nexus 7 2nd gen.
[Xperia SP General] GtrCraft:
Samsung only updates flagships, sony updates even low end and mid end phones. It just takes some more time sometimes
[Xperia SP General] zakkkkk:
They're updating s4 mini to 4.4 and that's a mid range device.
[Xperia SP General] GtrCraft:
They said that the S3 mini will get 4.2.2, still didn't got it
[Xperia SP General] SKA67:
Friends

Our news and information for better :D

Support from Sony

Sony 's support is really much 20 years ago
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
Already started????

Someone said already started :confused:

someone said wait for the update :confused:

I dnt want the leaked rom...its eats ram and battery, but thanks DooMLoRD

i still wait for the official 4.3 update.

pls update if rollout started...I Think its already started somewhere around the world.....

If anything good happens, pls post in this thread.

waiting for the good news.... :angel::angel::angel:
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
It didnt start anywhere if it had sony would have updated its blogs as far as chat support is considered they dont know anything about the release... To be precise they are not support they are just people who answer we dont know or confuse us by giving mixed and different answers. I lost hope in them.
[Xperia SP General] User013:
I don't care if i have to wait, if they think update is not yet ready for release it is ok, fix it i will wait. Xperia SP is not flagship phone but it is still 2013 device with powerful dual core processor and adreno 320 same GPU like in flagship devices. We will probably get update with 2012 devices. I think xperia sp should have higher priority than 2012 devices. We should get updates at the same time like Xperia Z or at least before 2012 devices. If they don't pay much attention now on our devices now, who know how gonna be with next updates, maybe we get them maybe not, maybe they will be on time maybe three months late. What do you think about this?
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
I kind of disagree with you.. a flagship device will always be a flagship, doesn't matter when it was released, as long as the SOC is supported I think it should be updated as soon as possible, or at least at the same time of the latest high-mid range devices. On the same thought I think our Xperia SP should be updated (4.4) before the next soon to be released mid, low-mid and low devices, like the E1 or the T2.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Confirmed: Update still delayed on our devices
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Guys can I create a petition online to provide us with info regarding ETA but I need your support so I am gonna take this move only if you guys support me. So tell me guys will u support me??
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
You can but I doubt it will help...
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Lets give it shot I will create a common petition for our device as well as T,TX,V so that we will have more supporters
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
A petition won't help one bit, when has Sony ever listened to its customers? None what's so ever, Sony are just bothered about the ££££££ they make nothing more,

I'm even thinking now that Sony won't ever release this update for our phones
[Xperia SP General] tomzzi:
Source?
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Lets be positive lets give it a try.. Who knows maybe before we even reach our goal the update will be released.. But lets try the petition thing also..
[Xperia SP General] tomzzi:
I am afraid of that too.

I will sell phone this week. I am tired of waiting. Delay after delay...
[Xperia SP General] wiidbzxt:
Actually you're wrong, the only time that a petition worked on Sony was when people made a giant petition for X10 to get Gingerbread, and it pretty much worked.

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Guys, seriously relax, you'll just get the thread closed due to spam. :/
[Xperia SP General] flow1:
Ok for petition!!!
[Xperia SP General] Rasik199:
At this rate I'm afraid we won't get 4.4 kitkat any hopes of that should be scraped now :thumbdown:
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Guys I created the petition please extend your support whether you guys think it will succeed or not we can give it a try.

https://www.change.org/petitions/so...-release-of-4-3-for-xperia-sp-t-tx-v-models-2

There is the link please do extend your support and sign we need a minimum of 100 supporters and also spread the word.

We have to get lots of attention those who have contacts to blogs please inform them so that we can have a wider reach.:good::highfive::):cowboy:;)
[Xperia SP General] GtrCraft:
Isn't it a bit too much too to sell your phone because your update got delayed?

I doubt that Sony will cancel the update with a developer edition already leaked
[Xperia SP General] dh.harald:
Why? I sold HTC Desire HD too ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
csá honfitárs!!!:good:
[Xperia SP General] GtrCraft:
It's HTC duhhh. But this one isn't cancelled just delayed
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Should I create a separate thread regarding this petition because the post is vanishing with the replies...
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
Hi

The petition was put as a signature:good:
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
I think your signature didn't change but no worries :) I created another thread regarding this issue. So we just have to spread the news the link to the thread is:- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2610675 :good:. Thank you for extending your support :D
[Xperia SP General] the_helix:
Make a separate thread and ask the mods to sticky it. I have already signed the petition.
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
Yes, I signed the petition and support you!
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Thank you for that advice I didn't think of it in the first place and again thank you for extending your support.

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Thank you qamu74. :D
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
I congratulate the organizing idea of ​​the petition ;)
[Xperia SP General] Siddhesh:
Signed the petition and shared to some users
[Xperia SP General] panjgoori:
I dont think so petitions will make a change. But still i will sign it. Hope Sony will release update soon or i will also sell my XSP and will buy BB Z10. Sony please release it quick.
[Xperia SP General] niaboc79:
When will this useless thread will be closed?

Seriously !

And you will do the same things until each new updates ?

Envoyé de mon C5303 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
Spoke to another agent today called Hayley from the UK support, according to her the xperia sp wasn't even given a release date, she said the android 4.3 from December 31st was only for the xperia z range..... I said to her why does the xperia sp update page state 31/12/13 for Android 4.3, she said there was no date there to show lol...... They don't know nothing at the contact support centre
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
Niaboc you probably have another device that has got the update, but to some ppl, they bought this phone only for getting the sony 4.3 and 4.4 update ( like me )

Tho I am willing to wait as I have grown to like this phone a lot and is significantly better than my 2011 device
[Xperia SP General] niaboc79:
JB 4.3 is nearly the same as previous ones ;)

Also you can already use leaked if your bootloader is unlocked ;)

Envoyé de mon C5303 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
that is my problem, bootloader isn't unlocked, i wud have loved to try it :( and i cant unlock it

both of my phones bootloader dont unlock

2011 device was unlockable but wudnt unlock

and this one is not unlockable, even after me unlocking the sim card :( , i thought unlocking sim wud turn the bootloader unlockable to yes XD

ya i was disappointed that is nearly the same as previous ones , but it will have openGLES 3.0 , which i want XD, they changed 4.1 and 4.2 a lot i guess just in a hurry they did not change 4.3 as much :(

but im hoping 4.4 will have a lot of change as 4.4 is what im mainly looking for , but 4.4 is sure to take time atm
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
My phone just gave me an update notification. New version available: 12.A.0.2.254 - that is the version I have been running for months and I never got such a notification. What is that? Some kind of joke? Or are they already preparing for the update?
[Xperia SP General] peterruzs:
...

:confused:

http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=23021
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
Latest update has been removed it seems :-/

Guess they probably found another bug in the new update

It was recently removed from xperia T as well :-/
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
They will never release an update if they will keep noticing bugs and keep fixing them all over and over again ;/ Why can't they release 4.3 as it is right now, and then fixing bugs if there are some?

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
People... Two things.

And if you're not that kind of person (which I do not expect because of the way people express themselve here...) then:

Just wait and zip it... or you will scare the mouse ^^
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
well that is bcuz more ppl will complain if they release a bug full update , so if it is a bug, i recommend we shud just wait and hope for the best
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
Well, the PC Companion now also wants to update my phone.

Here is what I have installed, what the phone tells me and what PC Companion tells me. Sadly I can't update (Windows 7 required, I have 8.1) but I will install this on my wife's computer and retry.
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
hey bro are u sure u are on 2.254 kernel?

connect ur phone to flashtool and check

maybe u went to previous kernel to root and forgot to update or something?

or did u edit build.prop?
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
I did not mod the phone yet - carrier-supplied phone, locked BL, still on warranty. All I did was root. PC Companion in Win7 wants to install an update as well, but I first need to charge my phone (less than 50%). Stay tuned... very exciting ;) But somehow I expect that at the end, there will be a huge disappointment.
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Nobody knows, and I bet even Sony doesn't ;)
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Dlna is about sensor. Am i ryt?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
No sharing media via Lan network home if im nog mistaken
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Ups. Am wrong. :D. So. Its mean it'll be comes to ptcrb very soon?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Dunno, lets hope so :)
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Yup ptcrb is the next if it is certified by ptcrb den dats it we get our update... :D;):cool::thumbup:
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
I thnk our friends on PTCRB working on it now. So we can get release date very soon..
[Xperia SP General] the_helix:
4.3 update for Z1 & Z Ultra released

I guess we are still at least a week away from the updates. Sony just released 4.3 update for Z1 & Z Ultra.

Link from Sony Mobile website

I guess Z, ZL & ZR will be next. After that only SP's 4.3 update will be released.
[Xperia SP General] aniket_:
I think Sony should release updates for the SP first or along with the rest considering it did not get the 4.2 update.
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
Agree with you sir..
[Xperia SP General] Ben Ling:
You forgot Xperia Tablet Z, T, TX & V.
[Xperia SP General] saurabh808:
improvements

i hope it removes all d bloatware n reduce ram consumption
[Xperia SP General] Rasik199:
A better cam is more than enough
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
A better cam and a better wifi:(
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Guys, do you think we will receive the same 4.3 as Z1/ZU/Z and ZL? I mean, the same new white-ish UI, new downloadable themes, new media apps, new camera apps?? Because if not, I will be very dissapointed. Sony owes us something, right? They skipped 4.2.2 for SP, so..

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
Most probably not, I wouldn't expect alot in the latest firmware
[Xperia SP General] dverbame:
at least hope... they solve ... wifi problem ( or maybe better camera )

and ... for god.. release one update .. with out tooo many many problems :(
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
I would love to see at least one leaked screenshot of 4.3 on SP...

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
Well yea i hope they do fix the poor WiFi issue, and also make it possible to move app to sd,
[Xperia SP General] raziel123:
4.3 Update

Sony needs to fix the following issues,

* Lockscreen Bug (lockscreen doesn't come on sometimes, you have to hit the power button twice)

* Improve Ram Management

* Improve Camera quality & performance

Hopefully we'll get improved GPU performance as well ...

just have to wait and see ...

regards
[Xperia SP General] GtrCraft:
Because of you I will still think about buying this phone (I almost wasn't because well you know)
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
this is 2.254 update thats for sure

and since u rooted, it shud probably be the kernel not being 2.254 as u need to flash previous kernel to root
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
You are probably right. The only question is: why did it never show any update notification before? After all, I have rooted it 3 months ago and did not change anything since then.
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
Ya for me I have notices that pc companion usually doesnt give notification for the update but sometimes does

But ur update center shud have gave?

Check ur kernel version in flashtool
[Xperia SP General] DerGraeflicheGraf:
The PTCRB deleted the last build (the one you find in this forum) from their webpage.
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
The kernel version can be seen on the screenshot: 3.4.0-perf-g1285c6c-01149-g40c437a, build date: Aug 14 17:10:55 2013

Well, soon my phone will be charged and I can try the update. Then we will know for sure.
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
Already posted on previous page

Thats the same one I have
[Xperia SP General] DerGraeflicheGraf:
Didn't see it. Sorry.
[Xperia SP General] claudio917:
Damn i've got a lot of respect for Sony developers and for those who are working to deliver these updates but Sony is messin up big here... Now who knows when a new firmware will be certified and then it's gonna take another week to start the rollout... Today I've read that Xperia Z1 is rumored to receive 4.4 in the first half of february, maybe it's a B/S, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they apologize and give up on 4.3 to give us kitkat in a while...
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
Update completed. Build number and kernel version/date exactly the same before and after. But phone un-rooted now. Thanks Sony! What a waste of time!
[Xperia SP General] rogermontane:
Hi! I think is better to keep this thread open, because a lot of people are excited about the update, and in this thread you have all the useless posts. If this thread will be closed, it will be a lot of new useless threads open everyday about the update and more posts about this in other development threads. That's my opinion, is better to have all this type of post here, and not in all the SP forum... Have a good day / night.
[Xperia SP General] stickedy:
Because people want a buf free firmware or at least a firmware with no serious bugs! Just have a look at the mess Samsung made several times when releasing new firmware with serious bugs which leaves people with non-functioning devices. That's exactly the way it shouldn't be! And it's better that Sony waits with the release untill the firmware is really ready for the release.

Sadly software development isn't so easy. You don't really know how long it will take and in what problems you run into before you start it, especially if some serious bugs appear.

So, we know that Sony works on the update and they will surely release it when it's ready.
[Xperia SP General] jnocomski:
I dunno what's the big deal here, the XSP is a great phone even in 4.1. The only gripe that I have with it is the RAM management. My XZU and XZ is in 4.3 and honestly it's not that different. Other than the camera features and the new themes and white settings, it's still the same banana. I even lost the navbar and status bar's semi transparency which I like.

Oh and my brother's S3 still haven't gotten it's 4.3 update from Samsung which just resumed this last Dec after being suspended for further testing. So I guess, Sony is just alright with how they are rolling their updates.
[Xperia SP General] Siddhesh:
U should have flashed 254 kernel only
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
The purpose of this thread has changed over time.

At first it was more like; What are the rumors, when can we expect the update, what will the changes be etc..

However now it is more like a complain thread. Altho it does make sense because the update has been delayed without any news or updates about when we can expect it. It starting to get out of hand.

For me the petition is one of the pointless things we can do now. I mean it is only 15 january.

Also a word of advice; stop looking at PC Companion, Stop pressing the Refresh or update button on your phone and please stop looking on PTCRB...

Enjoy your phone and life :)
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
Lol thanks for the support...It was pointless yesterday when I created but now its sort of like a real petition people are signing and they support me and others towards what we all think as consumers have the right to ask...
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
It is still pointless, perhaps I am the only one here but we are not death yet.... So we have plenty of time to wait for the update :P
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
No you have company there are people who think this petition is pointless so don't worry:)... And yea we are not there yet but we honestly didn't think we will get 800 signatures in 18 hrs.. So l think we will be there soon ... :)
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
I wonder what's taking that update so long. I don't know why but CyanogenMod

releases updates a lot faster

and a fact to consider is, they're not even being paid

Sony on the other hand, promises us an update (4.3) by December and still no update as of now.. I am certain most here are angry not because they want 4.3 badly but because they were already expecting the new update by December
[Xperia SP General] spix123:
It's not great on 4.1 for me. I can't stand the battery problems, its just stupid how it can suddenly start draining 4x faster in standby for no reason. Android 4.1 is outdated and buggy.
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
it's not the 4.1 bug its the apps you downloaded thats causing the battery drain
[Xperia SP General] Aadi:
No actually its a bug I uninstalled all the battery draining apps like chat applications task managers etc still its draining....
[Xperia SP General] Sadman Khan:
Yeah it's true but battery life is definitely better on 4.3. Noticeably better. The leaked version is very much usable but we would obviously appreciate a bug less official release. But Sony is just delaying and delaying without telling why.

OT: Anyway which anime is your pic from?
[Xperia SP General] ma_ko:
Do you guys have any idea why they deleted the lastest certification? They could certificate new version instead if that one was buggy...

[MENTION=4472066]Sadman Khan[/MENTION]

his avatar is probably from Oregairu :P
[Xperia SP General] Alex.D76:
Try to disable google's location service (settings -> location services) and then disable google search in Apps. That does the trick for me. I have with moderate using about 6 to 7 days left with stamina mod on.
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
My battery life is fine on the current rom, Its just the WiFi what's my problem, can't even play games etc without it cutting off
[Xperia SP General] stickedy:
The cartification is needed for carriers to be sure that the phone with that firmware works fine on their mobile network. Perhaps an major issue was found after certification, e.g. that it caused trouble in the mobile network, perhaps only in some, so the certification was removed so that this firmware won't get in the wild. It was most likely not done or asked by Sony but by PTCRB itself perhaps because of a complaint of a mobile carrier.