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[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VikasG09:
Hello friends...I just bought my Xperia z1 yesterday. I have updated it to 2.257 , with normal usage of 10-15 mins continuously the temp rises to around 33-35 and when i use Camera for around 5-10 mins even, temp rise to around 40 degree and with a game like subway surfers the temp rises to 42-43 degree ... 43 was the highest i saw so far...

Is this ok with this phone ? Or should i go to service center ?

I am using the premium cover i got with the phone, with that on I don't really feel the hotness in my hands but just want to be sure that this is normal heat up with this phone and my phone is not bad..

Also, when the phone is at 43 degree, should i stop using it and allow it to cool ? or should i keep playing the games , use the camera and all...

Any application that can help reduce the heating ? and any better camera app u can suggest ?

Also, please don't suggest to root..I do not want to void the warranty but after 1 year I will definitely root the phone and use custom roms then...
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VikasG09:
81 views and no reply yet ? :(
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lashton:
what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?

If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device

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what's the ambient temperature, its its under say 18 then yes i would be worried about that temp, if you ambient is say 25 then maybe not as much of an issue, check the back is the back cover (secured by tape) separating?

If its hot to the touch I would RMA that device
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VikasG09:
Ambient temp is around 25 only...the back cover just realized is separating from the top end camera side only.

I heard from some friend that If i go to the customer service regarding this heat , they will only say that it is normal as there is no warning message being popped in the phone about overheating.

And at sonymobile.com every one is saying that this is a normal heat up in z1 and on high gaming this temp will even rise to 50+ and there is still no issue except that the battery will drain faster on such temperature. I don't really understand why such heat up is being considered as normal in this phone...I mean it is heating , i can feel it..there can be some h/w issue arise in future coz of this
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirrtydog:
The explication for the high temperatures, i think, is because the phone is sealed (water proof and all) and the heat can't be very well dispersed in this case. That's why, on Z, many users complained that their phones overheated so much that the adhesive would loosen up (from the back cover) compromising the sealing proof of the device.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crusnikmachine:
This is not always true. Most phones usually do not use any kind of air cooling. There are no fans or even any channels for air to move through in any phone im familiar with. Some phones (GS4 i think?) now have a water loop to transfer heat to the case more effectively, but they pretty much all just use the case to cool down.

When i first got my Z1 i had charged it to full then began using it right away while it was still warm from charging. After about an hour of running every benchmark i could find i started to use the camera on its max setting for maybe 20min before it said something like "temperature is too high, closing camera" (i didnt check the temp but i was a bit warm lol..). I was plugged in for all this usage so i was putting out near maximum heat.

I wouldn't actually be worried about the phone temp, i think this is just the reality of having this beast of a quad core with the standard (very little) heat dissipation. That said i know the CPU/GPU can handle 60-70C no problem, but i would prefer to keep the battery temp below 50C if possible.. Edit: actually the battery health indicator was reading "overheat" and i was at 39C° according to battery temp. I was playing an online game for about 35min.

It would be cool to have a battery discharge widget to show you how much more power is used when all cores and GPU are running, i think some people would be surprised.

The phone should stay cooler if its not plugged in during usage, i think. Also, i'I've never gotten the phone that hot since and im not trying to keep it cool at all.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
I use Current Widget it works fine and has a log to file function:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget

The phone easily draws over 2 Amps during 3DMark, I guess maximum peak current will be around 3 Amps for some scenarios.That is a lot! Current Widget detected a battery voltage if 4,11V which means a power output of around 8 to 10W peak.

This is on the border of what can be passively cooled in this form factor. Actually it's a marvel of engineering to squeeze so much computing power into a smartphone. And you are right, there is no active air cooling in phones, I have never heard of water Cooling in a handset either, do you have a source? Sounds interesting but I can't believe it ;)

I totally agree on the rest if your post though! Don't worry about heat, the device was meant to get hot, this big 3000mAh battery is there for a reason too. I don't know why so many people get crazy over this, Sony does usually know what they are doing and if they think a high temperature limit is fine, it is.

By the way: In the Nexus 5/ Z1 comparison thread the reviewer stated that the N5 got hotter than his Z1. All modern Smartphones do get hot, it is the tradeoff needed for high performance.

Edit: This topic has also been discussed here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2467743

Edit 2: You were right! NEC does use a ultrathin 0,6mm waterfilled heatpipe!

www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Top-...eat-pipe-inside-new-smartphone-models_id44174

I stand corrected! ^^
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crusnikmachine:
Wow 3 amps i wasn't expecting, but that discharge rate would be required to kill it in an hour. Still nuts, they have defiantly pushed the limits of passive cooling here which disappointed me a bit because this will effect the maximum overclock. I don't know what i need the OC for yet, but thankfully i can just drop this phone in some ice water and it should do over 3Ghz no? My mytough4G went from 1Ghz to 2Ghz so we can expect a 100% overclock here too right? :P (I don't think the battery could even draw power fast enough..)

And water cooled phones amirite? I was really excited at the water cooled phones, but its not a big deal yet. That NEC probably barely runs cooler, and our Z1 would destroy that cooling setup anyways.. Its almost like they need to increase the size of the new devices to dissipate more heat. Although I'm still a fan of microscopic black hole cooling. Yep, a small singularity should do just fine.

So for now, its ice water and a PS3/BT controller lol.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
I really liked the black hole part :D

Yes just filling the heatpipes with water is no real water cooling, but it's nice to see some innovation. I'd rather like to see vapour chamber heatpipes like on modern graphics cards though, but without any heat sink that would useless too.

You are also right with your more size for better cooling theory, it's no wonder that Snapdragon 800 SoCs are just used in 5" and above devices. That's why I am so impressed with the Xperia Z1f (aka Z1 mini). If I am correctly informed it uses the same SoC as the big Z1 in a 4,3" chassis. That's an amazing feat and the first time a mini variant will be as fast as the big one (unlike S4 mini and One mini). But it will get throttled a lot more than our big Z1s I guess.

Edit: When going for some serious overclocks I would advise you to turn down display brightness completely, that should give you some 0,3 to 0,5 Amps of extra current ;)
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirrtydog:
I understand your POV but as long as it is affecting my phone, it's integrity and one of the main features for which i bought it with a premium price and a safety measure has to kick in in order to stay everything "ok" like "temperature is too high, closing camera", I'm not so sure about giving it a pass so easily.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crusnikmachine:
However if you leave your device in the sun (car dash or w.e) it can get much hotter then it would from normal operation and when you try to wake the device it will usually immediately power down saying "high temp" or something. This is often the only way you would see this message imo. Pretty much all androids do this, so it really isn't specific to the Z1. An apple device would do the same thing etc.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirrtydog:
Absolutely, no arguing.

But I don't agree when this happens while I'm playing a game, while (maybe) other apps are running in the background (multitasking), while wifi or 3g on, with more than 50% brightness level (not to mention maybe plugged to a power supply also to keep the battery from draining). In this particular case, on my old HTC One X, the overheating issue caused 2 burns on my phone's display (but that's another story) and i have them ever since.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
So have you actually experienced any shut downs or warnings because of heat? Or do you just want to make sure that there's no problem?

I have been playing a lot if games and used the camera, so far everything seems stable, I have had no problems yet.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m666p:
Mine reached 60 yesterday while playing dead trigger 2 but the CPU still scaled up to 2.15 so I guess the phone can take up to 65/70 degrees but my hands can't...
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crusnikmachine:
Yea im with you.. At least you can dip this phone in water to cool it down xD
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M-Dawg:
60 degrees celsius? Wow mine was doing 45 degrees while playing dead trigger 2 and I thaught I had a faulty handset ;)
[LG Optimus 3D] Budzin:
Hello

Can anyone check if you connect your P920 to a TV with the use of HDMI cable (on Android 4.0.4 ICS XBSA v8 with Ac!d Audio for example), and then insert headphones - does the audio and image split? I mean - the video goes through the HDMI cable to TV, but audio goes through the headphones instead?

If the audio and image would be splitted and working, then I think it would be possible to have working HDMI out with sound and also a working Wiimote controller, so it would be possible to use P920 as a gaming console on a TV.

I can't check this by myself at the moment, because I downgraded to GB so I can have working HDMI sound. Unfortunately, now the Wiimote Controller doesn't work anymore.
[LG Optimus 3D] troopii:
Im on pure stock rooted v30b. Have no problems with hdmi and sound. Also the wiimote works.
[LG Optimus 3D] Budzin:
I also tried stock ICS, but had no HDMI sound. On GB sound is fine. I have a Samsung TV. Could You check the headphone audio on stock ICS while HDMI is plugged?
[LG Optimus 3D] troopii:
I have no sound on headphone while hdmi is connected. I have a lg tv and this works also on my metz tv.
[LG Optimus 3D] Budzin:
Thanks for checking this out.

Actually I figured out that I wasn't on official stock ICS, but on stock ICS ported from SU760. Today I flashed stock official non-ported ICS for P920 and now I can say, that HDMI sound and Wiimotes are working.
[LG Optimus 3D] tang097:
ERM. That's not the solution. Actually HDMI works for GB on all TVs but for select Samsung TVs and ICS it doesn't work. My 50 Samsung doesn't work while my Samsung smart TV does.
[LG Optimus 3D] troopii:
For his question , the solutions is that there is no headset sound output while hdmi connected.

Try to update your 50 Samsung to latest firmware. if that not works try to use a different hdmi cabel. the phone has 1.4 hdmi also called high speed hdmi.

if you have pluged the phone to hdmi and you use external sound (like spdif output) ,try to changed the sound output of the tv to the internal speakers. also hit the vol up button more time when connected.

if that not works i would sell that tv and buy a new one :P

gl

maybe this works for your samsung tv :

Samsung displays:

[LIST]
[*]Power down the display via remote.
[*] Go into manufactures settings (press in sequence: Info, Menu, Mute, Power - From the Remote)
[*] Scroll down to '10 Adjust' and hit OK (Will differ on various models)
[*] Scroll down to 'HDMI' and hit OK (Will differ on various models)
[*] Scroll down to 'Clock Control' and change from 'On' to 'Off' with Left, Right arrows.
[*] Press 'Menu' to return to previous menu and save settings (Can be indicated by '??????' on the menu on some displays.
[*] Power Down
[*] Power Up
[/LIST]

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[LG Optimus 3D] Budzin:
In my case:

On every GB sound works fine

On XBSA ICS and Darkroom ICS - no sound

Official Stock ICS - I got sound, but I have to reconnect the cable a few times, because the sound is very distorted. After a few reconnects, the sound is fine.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Hi Guys,

I have bundled DSP Manager and Apollo. It also includes the libs for DSP Manager. It removes MusicFX.apk.

USE V1 for roms older then 4.4!

Working:

Apollo - Themes

DSP Manager - all settings

Not working:

You tell me !

Flash instructions:

Download Zip

Place on SD card

Boot to recovery

Install ZIP file

Reboot

Enjoy!

Let me know if you like it and hit thanks !

Changelog:

V2.1:

Separated DSP Manager and Apollo.

V2:

Second release! - DSP+Apollo_N4_Tomvs16_v2.zip

Updated Apollo from CM11

Updated DSP Manager from CM11

Updated libs from CM11

V1:

First release! - DSP+Apollo_Tomvs16.zip

Apollo from CM10.2

DSP Manger from CM10.2

Libs from CM10.2

Credits:

Cyanogenmod - for providing Apollo, DSP Manager and libs.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Leong428:
Works just fine on Rastakat. Me and my ears thank you ;)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] mjybarr:
Finally! I now get some great sound out of my N4 running GNOME'S latest ROM and ak119 kk kernel!
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] sidnoit22:
Working great on Gnome's ROM with AK 119 Kernel. :) :victory:
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] saint_cow:
Is it just me or is everyone else having issues with the the artist art? Mine won't update any of them.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Try to delete cache and rescan media library.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] luckydude:
does it work on stock factory image ?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Sblast:
Does this work with 4.3.1?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] vagg:
Works with Cataclysm Kitkat.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] sidnoit22:
Yes it should be. Just make a nandroid backup and try it. and let us know..
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Yes it does. But you will have to have a custom recovery.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Yes it does. This only replaces the audio libs and adds Apollo and DSP Manager. There isn't much changed in audio libs from 4.3 to 4.4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] luckydude:
can you upload to another miror ?? i cant download idm says request timed out !
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] mjh60:
Thanks!

Thanks!!! This definitely fixed my DSP.... The thing is, I don't use Apollo, would it be possible to package a flashable zip with DSP only? Either way thanks again!
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] ph37rd:
I will second this. Better, louder sound for anything (games, alarms, etc). Like mjh, I don't use Apollo, or other music players for that matter, but being able to hear the rest of the sound this beast can make would be a God-send.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Will try to make something tonight. Stay tuned!
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] azdavef:
Nice. Thanx

I don't use Apollo either, but having DSP makes all of the difference, so it doesn't matter. It also works on my Nexus 7 2013 with Kit Kat.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] jeflisboa:
Can I use root explorer to change the files? Because my N4 is rooted but I did not install custom recovery.

I use stock ROM.

Enviado de meu Nexus 4 usando o Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] vr5411:
I'm also rooted and with stock recovery.

Yes, you can do it manually.

If I can suggest a faster way in case android sdk is already set-up.

Just copy zip on phone.

Then issue a command:

adb reboot-bootloader

wait until in bootloader, then temporarily boot cwm recovery (or any other of your choice)

fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-mako.img

Now, instal zip file and reboot.

Note: recovery must be where fastboot program is before issuing command.

On Mac OS X, it should go like this:

096-87-17:platform-tools vr5411$ ./adb reboot-bootloader
096-87-17:platform-tools vr5411$ ./fastboot -c "lge.kcal=0|0|0|x" boot recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.5-mako.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.476s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.022s]
finished. total time: 0.498s
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] mjh60:
Thanks! Just saw the DSP only
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] joemcua:
Felt no difference when using PowerAmp. Works in Apollo & Play Music but a bit buggy, stops responding/ error force closes whenever I exit/pause/skip tracks from any of the working music app.. The volume changes at times too, tolerable but can be irritating at times.

But in a nutshell, I liked what you've done here keep up the good work. :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] vr5411:
I'm on stock 4.4 S-release and Play Music is working fine. exit/pause/skip tracks from app and notification tray and lock screen are working fine.

Not a single FC.

Are you on stock ROM?

Anyone else having problem?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] joemcua:
Yes. Im running stock 4.4 ~ I used the Version 2 of the first page, the one bundled with Apollo.

:)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
I also do not have any problems.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Lazy Rich:
Confirmed working on Purity 4.4. Thanks!

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] adamn44:
will this work on my galaxy s3 running cm11?

will this work on my galaxy s3 running cm11?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] madonasari:
Thanks guys, its awesome
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
I'm not sure, I need to look into that.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] nandcep:
Hi Tom,

Is there any effect if I change the updater script on your zip? I want the DSP without remove the Original Music FX (I want a multiple music effect on my Nexus) :D
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] __JOhnny:
Working on stock 4.4?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Mihnea1996:
Works like a charm ;)

Trimis de pe Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
No, go ahead. You will need to remove the line that says: something like rm /app/musicfx.apk

It should just work, but I'm not sure.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Daiskei:
Hey guys, anyone know of a flashable DSP manager for the N5?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Only DSP or with Apollo ?

Because I can make one without Apollo.

Edit: Made one on the go. It only includes DSP Manager. It will still remove MusicFX.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Daiskei:
Freaking awesome man! Thanks a ton.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] apatal:
Been actually looking for just this zip. Thanks for sharing. Somehow, my MusicFX app wasn't removed after flashing the DSP only zip. No biggie though. I just freezed it using TB so avoid conflicts with DSP. That should be fine right? :)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] gamerxxxn:
I can't flash the 4.4.1 OTA on my stock 4.4 due to the modifications done in the libs. Any way to revert so i can flash OTA and then again flash this mod ?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
I will see if I can make a reversible zip. I do not have a lot of time lately, so please wait patiently.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] untarded:
The equalizer menu item in Apollo doesn't doesn't start DSP Manager. Should it? I seem to remember this working in CM10.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] spadez2727:
Will this work on 4.4.1?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Yea, it should.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Don't know about this.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] gamerxxxn:
Is there a way to extract the stock libs from the factory image ? I have it downloaded but i can't figure it out
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Dawid5283007:
Hey, this DSP work great with Apollo, but not work with for example: YouTube. Any ideas how repair it to work with yt too? I have actually android 4.4.1 on SGS2. Thanks for answers :)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] ssbnasa:
working and flying in Purity KK 4.4.1! :D
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Mihnea1996:
Go to Settings>Sounds>Music Effects and check DSP. It should work.

Trimis de pe Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] joseN4:
im using Viper4Android ... do u guys think this is better ?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] DaBigFreak:
Hi there!

I used OmniROM on my Nexus4 for a long time, with Omni I got DSP Manger 2, its awesome better than 1.0!

As you can see in screenshots, there is a frequency choosable, where the center bass boost is set, this option realy makes the difference when plugged to earphones or plugged to stereo sound system!

What Ive done is, I tool v2 zip file, compared it with OmniROM's files, copied the Omni files into the v2 zip, let it overwrite. Then I flashed. I get the new app ui, but NOTHING is working. I copied all the files BEING FOUND in Omni, that were in your zip by name, but seems I forgot or dont understand something.

This is my attempt to overwrite your zip with the files from Omni: View attachment DSPManagerV2.zip
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Rohit02:
Viper4Android is the BEST!!! No match.. :good:

No offence.. try it and you will agree too. :p
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] DaBigFreak:
And what about that center bass option? Is that available in Viper?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Dawid5283007:
I'll checked it and DSP is selected, but still work only with Apollo, or Walkman (music player from Z1). I'm not know what's going on :/
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
I don't like Viper4Android because I think it has too many options. That's why I prefer DSP Manager. Nonetheless, Viper4Android is great.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] vikas_toad:
File Type: zip	DSP+Apollo_Tomvs16.zip - [Click for QR Code] (1.82 MB, 895 views)

File Type: zip	DSP+Apollo_N4_Tomvs16_v2.zip - [Click for QR Code] (1.96 MB, 909 views)

File Type: zip	DSP_ONLY_N4_Tomvs16.zip - [Click for QR Code] (658.3 KB, 759 views)

i jus want the dsp manager for n4

which package exactly do i download? the last one??(DSP_ONLY_N4_Tomvs16.zip)

is that dsp from cm11 or the other two package contain the cm11 dsp?
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] Rohit02:
flash this file - File Type: zip	DSP_ONLY_N4_Tomvs16.zip - [Click for QR Code] (658.3 KB, 759 views)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] MrToastedAndroid:
Works brilliantly on rastakat 4.4.2 and stock kernel.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tsatomas:
Thank you. V2 working well on my sgs with omni Mackay 4.4.2:)
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] DaBigFreak:
Sad, but still not the new CM11 DSP Manager v2 :(

Realy looking for it, because its ways more simple than Viper! Viper is like ParanoidAndroid compared to CM. I dont need the whole package!
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] AsadXperia:
Sony Xperia Go Cyanogenmod 11 4.4.2 Kitkat

Works for few minutes then dsp manager is not responding , please help!:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
Well, this is probably because you have an Xperia Go and not an Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] tomvs16:
I will look into that. Maybe I have some time this week.
[Nexus 4 Themes and Apps] lilchicano:
I know its also possible to take the dsp manager apk, and replace it after installation in the /system/app folder, then you change the permissions to what they were with the old one and it could work.

but from my retesting, the newest version causes FCs, you gotta get one like 2 weeks old off of nightlies and they should work. well atleast it did for me.

running CNA, and pulled it off of the omni nightlies.