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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] The-Chief:
To answer your question, I have always left the stock slot STOCK rooted. There is no custom ROM there... that's what the ROM slots are for. I have re-installed Safestrap several times to no avail. Looks like I have no choice but to Odin back and start this from absolute scratch.

For those of us who are frazzled in the head, what is NC2? EDIT: Never mind, figured that out...

EDIT 2: I think I've figured out my issues. I was really jumping the gun by trying to put Safestrap 3.72 on the old stock 4.3 OS. That was causing me major headaches. So I removed SS 3.72 and re-installed SS 3.65, installed Recovery and it WORKED! Now on to AZ Biker's instructions, which specify a CUSTOM 4.3 ROM in the stock slot (something to which I have always been opposed). Hyperdrive 7 is now up and running in the stock slot. I will proceed with his process very carefully and patiently. TY to all, I look forward to a successful resolution here :)

EDIT 3: Okay AZ Biker, I followed your instructions to the letter and got all the way to ODIN and flashing the NC2 .tar file. Here's the deal: it doesn't boot up. It will show the boot screen and DIE. I do a battery pull, power on and same thing. I went back into Download mode and re-Odin'd the .tar file. Same thing. This phone will NOT boot up. I am open to any suggestions at this point, folks. :(

EDIT 4: I'm going back to MJ7 and starting all over again, re-rooting, re-ROMing and essentially starting the whole thing over. Signs of life FINALLY
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
It's like digging a hole in sand -- the sand keeps sliding back into the hole.

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] The-Chief:
QFT!

Now it doesn't want to root! I tell ya: had I known that flashing Hyperdrive 8 KitKat was going to require THIS, I would have stayed right where I was until the Note 4 comes out :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Hyro864:
Going from 4.3 to 4.4 is fairly simple. Before you do anything, have the 4.4 ROM and ss 3.72 apk on your SD Card. Then, Inside safe strap 3.65, you have to activate the stock slot. Make sure you wipe the other slots. Wipe the stock slot also. Flash the 4.4 ROM if your choice in the stock slot. When that is finished, within safestrap, reboot into download mode. Connect phone to PC and using ODIN, flash the nc2 file. Once the phone reboots,it will load the 4.4 ROM that you flashed. After it boots, Use a file manager and install SS 3.72. At this time, only the stock slot is supported. Hope this helps you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] The-Chief:
It helps tremendously, Hyro! I've been rooting and ROMming since the OG Droid in 2009 but this thing is turning into a BOOGER! I already have the 4.4 ROM (Hyperdrive 8) and both SS versions (3.65 and 3.72) on the SD card. As SOON as I can get this stinkin' thing rooted again, I intend to:

Install Busybox and SS 3.65

Install Recovery, wipe stock slot

Install Hyperdrive 8 (4.4 ROM) in the stock slot

Reboot into Download Mode

Odin the NC2 file

Reboot System

Install SS 3.72 over 3.65

Is that it? :)

Thanks again!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Hyro864:
After rooting,

I didn't install busybox. Agree root, I installed SS 3.65 and rebooted phone. Then i selected recovery from the ss splash screen, wiped the stock slot and continued to 4.4 from there.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jmc2543:
That is correct. Just be sure to wipe ALL slots, only the stock slot should have anything on it. 3.72 doesn't work correctly with other slots besides stock slot
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] The-Chief:
Thanks to all of you for your help! The onus is now on me to successfully root the phone again. I will begin attempting that first thing in the morning, as my Darling Bride has been in bed horribly sick all day and just got up. Gotta take care of her.

When it rains, it pours I tell ya :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
Do we need to have a sd card to user the ss for kk?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Harleydroid:
No. I'm using ss 3.72 on the leaked rooted deodexed build on internal storage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mwshows:
And all this stuff is why you are having problems. You aren't doing anything correctly, and you definitely aren't following the instructions correctly to get onto KK nc2.

You need to go back and re-read everything. You're leaving things that shouldn't be left, installing things in places they can't be, and then you're getting frazzled because it doesn't work.

It's a very down to earth, simple process.

1. Odin you phone to MJE

2. ROOT with Kingo

3. Install Safestrap 3.65

4. Open Safestrap and install recovery (Make Sure to check 'unknown sources' in security settings).

5. Boot into Safestrap and do a full wipe.

6. Install NC2 on STOCK slot only, NO other slots are supported at this time

7. After this, reboot DIRECTLY into download mode from Safestrap.

8. In download mode, odin the KK firmware.

9. Reboot, and setup phone

10. Install Safestrap 3.72,then open app and hit install recovery.

Done! If you're doing ANYTHING else, leaving stock slots and installing on other slots, and this and that or whatever else, it won't work. That's it.

EDIT: Also, please check MD5 on your downloads of the NC2 zip and the firmware you flash in Odin. Make sure they check out before you do anything, then put them on your SD card.

EDIT 2: I hope this post doesn't come off condescending or harsh to you. If so that isn't my intention. I just think you're majorly confused on how the process works. I hope you get it working!

Sent From The Darkside of My N3

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Almost nothing in your steps here is correct. Again, this is why you are having problems. Please refer to above post and follow it, and you will succeed!

Sent From The Darkside of My N3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] The-Chief:
Not condescending at all, MWShows. I want all the help I can get. So once I've got the NC2 flashed and KK Odin'd over, at what point can I install Hyperdrive 8 KK? Is that step 11 then, after SS 3.72 is installed and Recovery is re-flashed? Thanks again!

EDIT: SUCCESS! Got it! Thanks to all. Now in SS 3.72 Recovery, backing up NC2 before I flash Hyperdrive 8. I do appreciate everyone's help and guidance. You guys are fantastic!

:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mwshows:
Awesome!! Don't get discouraged if Safestrap gives you problems on doing a backup. I have seen people report that back ups are also being stubborn on occasion. Again, glad you got everything working!

And to answer your earlier question, now you can install Hyperdrive! Remember, ONLY stock slot is supported at this time, so that is where you need to install it. Do a wipe in Safestrap again, then install away!

Sent From The Darkside of My N3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bilichjl:
Ugh...

Ok so I tried to boot into recovery using the 4 way boot menu and now i'm stuck in a boot loop where my Note tries to boot into recovery but can't. Just keeps showing splash screen, blue words saying recovery booting, black screen...and then repeat.

Is all hope lost? I just want to odin back to MJE and start over, but can't get to the download menu.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
Pull battery. Reboot in download mode with the three buttons. When in download mode hit cancel to reboot.

TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bilichjl:
Thanks...I tried the three finger salute but was using volume up instead of volume down...forgot i could boot directly into download mode
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
No problem it should reboot to ss out of download mode.... u shouldn't have to start over. I read about a dozen post of people doing the same thing.lol

TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] meansixx:
Got my replacement note 3 in and it had kitkat already installed. Will this work to root or have to wait...thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] milski65:
Unfortunately you'll have to wait.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
You get a sympathy thanks from me, that's a bummer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] recDNA:
I am in safestrap 3.65 with Hyperdrive 7 installed in slot 1. I went into download mode to make sure knox counter is 0x0. It is. My concern is when in downloader it said "downloading do not power off". I pulled the battery and was able to reboot into h7. Does this mean I accidentally downloaded part of the ota? If so where is it stored so I can delete it?

Sent from my Hyperdriven Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mwshows:
You're just fine. That warning is there for when you are connected to a computer via USB and Odin'ing firmware. You don't want to unplug in the middle of that! But just entering and exiting download mode won't hurt anything.

Sent From The Darkside of My N3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
I recently rooted and installed safestrap 3.65... how do you make it recognized the 64 gb sd card?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] griffis:
Yes, happened to me. I tried installing other Roms, odin back and reflashing kk, etc, finally discovered my sd needed reformatting.

To check, remove your sd card and try to make backup to internal sd.

If it works, be sure to copy all data from extSD before reformatting it. Could copy contents to computer, and/or copy contents to internal sd using root-explorer, then after reformatting extSD, move contents back. Worked for me.

Sent from my Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Inkedadrenaline:
Sounds like you need to format it... Recognizes my Samsung 64gb just fine
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
I noticed that the app to sd card only moves mb of the whole app to the sd.... what I wanted was to the whole app on the sd card Mount it then run it from the extended sd.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Xerrus:
So after installing NC2 everything was going perfectly. Today I decided maybe I want to install a different kitkat-based ROM so I installed safe strap from my SD card (the newest beta FOR 4.4), pressed install recovery (went fine) and then clicked reboot into recovery.

Well, it didn't reboot so I held down power and rebooted into recovery manually.

NOW, I see the samsung splash screen and I see the words "booting into recovery" in blue in the upper left and then the screen goes dark and reboots to the same thing over and over. It's stuck in a boot loop.

Any advice for a quick fix that DOESNT involve wiping my device right off the bat?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denpth:
Boot into download mode. Batt pull, insert battery, power on holding volume down and home hard keys. Odin .pit file and the NC4 recovery after to stop that from happening again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Xerrus:
[RECOVERY LOCKED/MJ7,MJE,NC2] Safestrap Recovery v3.72 [2014-04-22 KK BETA]

So no need to completely flash the NC2 Odin file again too? Just the .pit file and that'll solve my partitioning issues?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] airmaxx23:
Try booting into download mode then hit cancel and reboot, it may work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] denpth:
Yes that will solve it for sure. But you can try just getting it to boot into download and then canceling it. Theoretically that should work because it does not have the reboot recovery command in the boot sequence. However I had the same issue and the .pit worked. Be sure to flash the NC4 recovery/modem. You get to keep the kernel module enabled firmware and get the better modem and the boot loop fix.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Xerrus:
Where were you 8 hours ago!? lol. Amazingly something that simple did the trick. You're a rock star.

This is good. I think I'll flash the new firmware since i have everything already in front of me any way! Thank you for your input!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] airmaxx23:
I'm glad it worked, it can be nerve racking when something like that happens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jolly_roger_hook:
I know it says you cant use rom slots on the 3.72 kk but I have been able to install roms to slots 1 and 2 as well as the stock now the slots do change from permissive to enforcing but it does not affect your knox or the permisive on your stock slot is there any harm to me using the slots if they work
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Not so much that you CAN'T use Rom Slots on 3.72, but that it is NOT SUPPORTED should you have an issue :D

Just some clarity for us OCD bean counters :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] barrackOBAMA:
So can any one say they are on ROM slot 1 and running flawlessly???

May have to try myself!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
SS splash screen when plugging in charger

I noticed something happening the last few nights when I plug in the power cord:

The last few nights after pow the phone off, and plugging in the charger, I get a pixilated SafeStrap slpash screen (Recovery on left Continue on

right), neither option is selectable, and it goes away after a few seconds: anyone have any idea WHAT this is about?

Running BajaRom 12 (KK 4.4) in SS 3.72 on stock slot, not a ton of mods, and nothing new in the last several days to match up with this issue.

No other issues, no noticeable effects from this, just curious more than anything :D

Thanks in advance!

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I've seen maybe a half dozen users say they're running a cust rom in a slot other than stock slot. Some say they have minor issues, some say they have no issues.

To be 100% honest, I have no desire to run multiple roms ATM so stock slot is fine for me :p I say you should back up you current set up, try flashing something in slots 1 or 2, if it works, great, if not, restore :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] airmaxx23:
I think the trick to get the other slots working us to create them while your still in 4.3. Once you're on 4.4 the slots can't be created.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jolly_roger_hook:
Oh alright thanks for the clarity

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Besides tje permisve being wnforcing I have roms running on slot 1 and 2 flawlessly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] barrackOBAMA:
I tried slot one and two.

Both were acting up.

Wouldn't let me wipe data.

And when I went to install roms it said it couldn't Mount system.

Oh well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
* looks around the room* waits .....and waits....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ncdub:
Mine has done that since 3.72. I always cut my phone off at night and plug it in. It'll show the regular charging icon then an almost all white, pixelated safe strap screen with the charging screen kinda mixed in as well. I just hit the home button and it goes away. No issues from it at all. Just seems like a graphics glitch of some sort.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Exactly what I do. Just curious if anyone else had this going on or if I was special :silly:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] krishaun27:
I see things still looking herky jerky on KK and SS 3.72, think I'll hang out on JB with everything still working flawlessly on SS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] :
No major issues with KK NC2 leak with NC4 Recovery and Modem and SS 3.72 here. Running like a champ and now just waiting for the ROM slot availability. Can't wait to see what other Roms will come out for 4.4.2

Galaxy Note 3 Jasmine 1.1.1 Xposed

Galaxy Gear Stock

Suck It Nerds!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kdizzleh85:
No issues here on kit Kat. I charge without those issues. Weird deal. I'll update if things change. So far so good
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] recDNA:
In Safestrap 3.63 (running stock rooted in rom slot with SDM frozen) how do I clear just the cache and the dalvik? I see the option "wipe" but I only want to wipe the cache and dalvik, not the rom. Sorry but I am used to cwm and I've never used TWRP. I don't want to click on Wipe just to find I've wiped everything. Thanks for your patience. I know this is a real noob question and I've searched and many people speck of clearing cache but nobody mentions exactly how (that I could find).

Thanks so much for your help!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] milski65:
Been awhile since I've been on that. Is there an advanced button? If so hit that and it might bring you to select exactly what you want to wipe.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dogbots159:
Same issue here

I have almost the same issue with all rom slots. It will let me wipe data, but will not let me mount /system no matter what I try. I'm on 4.4 with the 3.72 safestrap. I'm going to keep looking and trying. Someone let me know if you have any ideas please! :cyclops:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] :
Rom slots not available yet. This is a know issue and I'm sure its being worked on now. Only option is to back up and flash on Stock slot for now.

Galaxy Note 3 Jasmine 1.1.1 Xposed

Galaxy Gear Stock

Suck It Nerds!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dogbots159:
Thanks for the reply. I must have gotten really lucky! As a last ditch effort, I completely formatted and re flashed the whole phone with NC2 using Odin. After setting everything up I again loaded the latest SS recovery. On ROM slot 1, I installed the latest (as of 5-29-14) hyper drive ROM. After a few resets everything appears to be working perfectly! Hope it stays that way...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] shannonppp:
V3.72 not working after installing

I guess I ran into these two issues listed in the "Known Issues" section:

[v3.72] Sometimes the installation doesn't work correctly. If you don't see the splashscreen after a rebooting. Install Safestrap again. (DEBUGGING THIS AS I GET TIME) --> I don't see the splashscreen after a rebooting and I've tried installing Safestrap multiple times.

[v3.72] "Reboot Recovery" doesn't work in the APK --> Nothing happened when click "Reboot Recovery"

So now after flash the stock Deodexed N900VVRUCNC2 ROM, I was not able to install SafeStrap and flash the BajaROM I want to use. Can you please advice or should I just wait for these bugs to be fixed?

Thanks for all your excellent work! I used v3.65 before and loved it.

Update: I was able to make it work after re-install it for another two times. Don't know why it was not working before.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BigMcGuire:
Yep, this worked for me! My dad got a Note 3 and the biggest problem I had was after NC4 --- it would go from Samsung Note 3 (unlock symbol) and straight into BajaRom without a recovery option.

I had to reinstall recovery 3 times inside of the SS app (reinstalling the SS app did nothing) for it to work.

Thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kdizzleh85:
3.65 issue

My safe strap is installed but not active. It had been working 100% until I had to restore. Now after installing and reinstalling it still will not become active. I can still flash etc but I just wanted to see if anyone has a fix for peace of mind. Thanks again
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
I don't think it will show active or enabled unless ur on a custom slot... I've never seen active on mine and have only used the stock slot

TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] kdizzleh85:
Thanks bro. That must be it because prior I used custom slot on 4.3. I am back on KK now so I better get over it!

I'm trying to get the goodness coming. Busy as hell with school. Finals is almost here TG
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Gunthermic:
The only problem I have had with SS so far, is the clock is off, so it can't backup with time included in the BackUp name and be correct. That is the only problem I have run accross.

And since B10, the countdown timers at the Splash screen no longer counts down. Stays at 10 secs.

[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] great job... Thing of beauty...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
How do I properly judge the size Imake a rom slot?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] xdadevnube:
My understanding is that kexec could be implemented into the SS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
Hashcode says it's unlikely
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ronaldheld:
Hash, is there a way to have the clock display the correct time in SS?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GTvert90:
Can we not making the data partition bigger then 4gb? When I made a backup my data partition was over 5...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dadsterflip:
Hey hash. Quick question. On HTC one they have that dual boot ROM but still able to keep apps and data on both ROMs that you reboot to(I can't remember the name). Is that possible on safestrap? Create ROM 1 but share the data or apps that's stored on stock ROM? Unless it requires a full BL unlock.

Modaco switch. Was the name of the app.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mbh87:
I think thats a TWRP bug, I cant remember the last time I used TWRP and the clock and date were actually right.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dadsterflip:
Yea I'd like to know this too if it was possible. I'd really like to make my custom ROM as my main.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Bsmith0731:
I can never get the safestrap recovery to show up without doing a battery pull. And even then it always boots to the stock rom slot. Am I doing something wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] GTvert90:
Right after the Samsung galaxy note 3 splash screen there should be another screen and that's up for 5-10 sec asking if you want to boot to recovery (safestrap) or boot normal
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] boynamedstacy:
Are you plugged in?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Bsmith0731:
Disregard. I had it plugged in.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] boynamedstacy:
:P No worries.... I know someone who may have had the same problem once ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
...anyone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dadsterflip:
ROM slot maxes at 4gig. When I installed mine. I just set everything to max.

You'll have like 3 gig ish for storage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] keynith:
Dual boot roms require certain kernals, so no. You'd need a dev edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Brandonrz:
You don't need to install it on a virtual slot if size is an issue.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] gerg004:
Quick question, now that we have HD ROM to flash, and more to come :) ; can I just flash that ROM right to ROM-Slot-1 ? Or should I restore my initial nandroid backup to the 1st slot (on the left). I'm asking because that's part of the directions in the video from RootJunky.

It confuses me a bit since technically you have that Stock-Rom slot on the right, isn't loading a nandroid to ROM-Slot-1 kind of redundant? Plus its taking up a now precious 3 gb's (or whatever it happens to be). This is my first go around with Safestrap so I'm really just trying to understand. So any insight on this is much appreciated. Whether its a necessary step or more of another safety net.

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] forgiventhief:
confused

Reading through the thread, I see warnings about an exploit when rooting. If I am still on M19 and want to root, what is my safest option? After rooting, I'll install safestrap.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
No prob made me wonder at first also. Lol. Nice. Looking 4ward to it.

TaPpEd from my XpOsEd 4.4.2 NIII
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] chefb:
Just wondering does anyone miss having the ability to load multiple roms