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[Nexus 5 General] ranasrule:
how can the dialog boxes be made smaller ? is that also related to systemui or android system apk ? also what is the default dpi on Nexus 5 stock ?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No, systemui is just notification / status bar and navbar / pie.

If you want pop ups too, its provably best to try build.prop to set an overall dpi then if you want systemui even smaller, set that later.

I usually set build.prop at 400 but slim has opened my eyes to 370. Give 370 a try, its nice IMHO.

Stock is 480
[Nexus 5 General] ranasrule:
thanks for all your help bud
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No worries. Please let us know how you get on.
[Nexus 5 General] Spectrum75:
I think 400 its ok for me, but ill keep playing around for a while

with some different values.
[Nexus 5 General] vin4yak:
Me too.. 400 is my sweet spot! :highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] eodchn:
480 it is.. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] ldubs:
Hey all I recently did a clean flash of latest version of mahdi ROM and now my LCD density changes won't take. I've tried updating build.prop in root explorer, ROM toolbox and play store apps. The change saves in the bp file but when I reboot the screen density stays the same. Anyone know how to fix?

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[Nexus 5 General] Kenneth196:
What density do you guys set to allow 3 icons on each side of the bottom center button (the one that brings up a list of all of your apps)? I've tried several between 340 and 400 but so far I can only fit 2 icons on each side
[Nexus 5 General] outofthisworld:
Try the xposed module XGELS, you can't automatically add more icons to the dock bar by reducing the LCD density
[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
Odd. 340 should do it. I used to run 340 with three dock icons on each side. I'm on 320 right now with three on each side
[Nexus 5 General] Kenneth196:
Thanks! I'll try both. I'll also give the Xgels module a shot as outofthisworld stated
[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
Worth a shot, but you definitely don't need an extra module for it.
[Nexus 5 General] Kenneth196:
Thanks again for the help. I just tried both 320 and 340 and both worked as you stated! I coulda swore I tried 340 but maybe not. I think I'm gonna stick with 340. Seems like the perfect size for the icons. Not too big, not too small. Plenty of space. Thanks so much for the help
[Nexus 5 General] gd6noob:
380 on stock launcher...
[Nexus 5 General] thfreedumb:
445 ftw. I don't like squinting when I use a 5 inch screen, haha.
[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
445 makes me feel like I'm using one of those push button phones for the elderly with the huge buttons
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
Use paid version of nova launcher. Nothing to do with density of pixels. WTF would someone want to make the screen worse? 441 or whatever is just fine. You can adjust the size of all icons with it, number of rows up and across

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[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
Look

Tried to add above but kept wheel spinning. You can choose small icons as well to have space around them

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[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
Some don't want to run a different launcher. I've paid for nova and haven't bothered installing it on my nexus. No reason for it if you don't want any of the flashy extras. All my phones get a dpi change as soon as I get them. I feel like they're all set up for blind people. I have this beautiful screen, I'd rather use the space wisely
[Nexus 5 General] Simonna:
For me 420 Dpi is perfect ^^
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
Don't you loose the definition? The sharpness? As for space nova let's you shrink icons. As the pic shows you can have 7 ori 8 or 9 in the dock. I totally agree on the quality of the display but it's got that by the pixel density. If you lower it you'd start getting jagged curves and circles. Going to try it as I've an ap on xposed that does it. So does JR tools.

I'll eat my words if I find any pluses

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[Nexus 5 General] vin4yak:
Whattttt??? Actually. by lowering the pixel density the Sharpness increases... I'm on 370 and I'm loving it! We can have so much real estate on a single screen now..

I've set Icon Size to 130% in Nova Launcher and this setup feels perfect to me... That being said, it's purely subjective choice and will differ from person to person :cyclops:
[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
I think you're confused on dpi
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No. Changing the dpi doesn't change the resolution. The UI is still 1080. When you change the dpi, you're just making the interface proportionally smaller within the same resolution.

Its not the same as setting a lower screen resolution on

your computer where everything gets bigger and jagged
[Nexus 5 General] dead0:
i was under the impression with dpi, the resolution doesnt change but quality of images will be reduced ie when viewing photos, wallpapers etc
[Nexus 5 General] crzycrkr:
Perfectly explained

nope
[Nexus 5 General] MrObvious:
That threw me too.
[Nexus 5 General] psp9000333:
300, the one right before you go into tablet territory. looking great for me and really demonstrates pixel density of the 1080p panel.

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[Nexus 5 General] psp9000333:
here's a screenshot.

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[Nexus 5 General] vin4yak:
Whaattttttt :o Well, I really have to squint when I change the dpi below 330...i guess it's just my poor eyesight to be blamed lol...

-Flowed from an IceCold Hammerhead!
[Nexus 5 General] kxnzxmori:
439 works for me. :good:
[Nexus 5 General] WarRaven:
I've gone back to a boring to you guys 460.

WR

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[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Not at all.

dpi (dots per inch) only really changes user interface elements (assets) like buttons, text, icons etc. Wallpapers remain the same. Gallery images remain the same, although obviously the gallery elements themselves (buttons, menus etc) will be smaller if you lower dpi.

Because the elements are still at the same resolution, there is no degradation of quality at all. We're not changing the display resolution so the element is still displaying at 1080. Don't forget also that images in Android are also designed to scale (patch9).

A 10" tablet with a 1080 resolution and a 5" phone with a 1080 resolution, they have the same amount of pixels so obviously the ppi (PIXELS per inch) of the tablet is half of that of the phone. The pixels are literally twice the size on the tablet

Often with bigger screens, you are expected to be viewing from further away (32" TV for example) so all elements could remain the same size without looking strange. You're further away so everything looks smaller to you (ergo everything looks proportionally the same).

On this 10" tablet example though, the icons would look twice the size as the icons on the phone because there are the same amount of pixels as the 5" screen (means pixels are actually twice the size) and you are not increasing your viewing distance so you can not rely on proportion control through distance.

So if everything is twice the size of the phone, there is no increase in screen real estate - which actually makes having a tablet pointless. So Android allows the LCD density to be tuned so the icons can be made smaller (to look the same size as the phone) and therefore increasing the real estate. Lowering the dpi in android to meet the ppi of the screen reduces the size of the elements.

This is an old article but maybe it helps explain: (Obviously the numbers are outdated)

http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/android-tablet-usage-tips-tricks/9444-lcd-density-explained.html
[Nexus 5 General] neverborn:
A little help? Does anyone know which DPI to set so that Pocket renders in tablet UI?

Much obliged.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
No idea, but if you're not using ART, you can change teh layout of an app without changing the DPI with xposed module "app settings"
[Nexus 5 General] neverborn:
That's indeed what I'm using, to no avail.

I've gotten used to Tablet UI as I was using it extensively on my (previous) Xperia Z Ultra..
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Maybe then, pocket removed the tablet layout from their app.
[Nexus 5 General] MrObvious:
I believe 320 is the magic number you're looking for.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Every app is different. Are you sure pocket is 320?
[Nexus 5 General] Dropple:
Looks awesome on 400
[Nexus 5 General] Old-school:
Running 279 here (right below the tablet cutoff of 280) with large fonts. Good eyesight is one of the few things I happen to be blessed with haha...

Looks like a mini Nexus 7
[Nexus 5 General] jitin02:
L00ks good with Huge fonts :P .
[Nexus 5 General] :
Did anyone manage to get Tablet UI on the settings page?
[Nexus 5 General] ibmiz:
I like using 425. Much better than 480
[Nexus 5 General] firegate22:
380 here, I think everyone has his own taste, but stock 480 is ... ;)
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
I've set up Nova icons to 130% so I'm lowering the pixel density?! Looks great to me I've an app that allows per app pixel density. Going to play with it.

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[Nexus 5 General] pbr2:
Although I know what you guys mean when you say "tablet mode" and "tablet UI", it's just going to cause confusion. What you are talking about is dual-pane layout.

Google ended Tablet UI, and it's not coming back. It was when the status bar was combined with the navbar at the bottom of the screen (nav to the right), and the notification drawer was swiped open from the bottom. There are still diehard fans of that setup, who won't let it go, and keep whining that PA or someone should recreate it, etc. Be careful not to get those guys excited and then break their hearts. [emoji7][emoji31]

After all, dual-pane layout has always been there (for most apps) if you have the appropriate display settings, and ”tablet mode" is/was something else entirely.

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[Nexus 5 General] giarcs:
I have always used 370 but today tried 400 ... I liked it)

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[Nexus 5 General] pbr2:
Something unexpected: I kept reducing trying to find the trigger for dual-pane in Settings, and although that didn't happen, at some point my home screen became rotatable. Weird. I'm using the unaltered Google Now Launcher on the latest ParanoidAndroid Beta. I've been missing the landscaped home screen, but not enough to stay at 269.

Not sure if I'll find a custom dpi that I like better than stock. I'm still playing around.

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[Nexus 5 General] k3mik4l:
Running 360 right now and liking it a lot, was on 400 but even that looked a tad to big I think I've found my sweet spot.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Using 900 here. Just kidding.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Anyway to change the Google keyboard DPI?

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[Nexus 5 General] Darkrift:
Holy #*(^, I feel like I just got a new phone. I changed this a little on my old G1 and I might have on my N4, but on the N5, this was a DRAMATIC change. I set it at 445 and it *seemed* different, but you couldnt really tell 100%. I decided to change it to 300 after reading this thread, and WOW!! I am finally happy with the screen on this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Techimplant:
People I lowered my DPI to 420 but it ruined the app drawer in "Google Now" launcher ..it became too cluttered.. any other ideas so that I can lower the DPI without ruining the app drawer..

BTW I don't wanna change my launcher ..thanks

EDIT: In just changed it to 445 and I think this is perfect ..hasn't ruined my launcher either..

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[Nexus 5 General] :
I've been using my phone at 360 and have gotten quite used to it over the past couple weeks.

Then a couple days ago I reset my phone to factory settings and flashed a new ROM.

I kid you not, people, I almost died. Those big icons, the big letters, the absolute waste of screen estate. The horror.
[Nexus 5 General] CitizenLee:
Haha, so true. Stock icons are like postage stamps. Make the N5 look like a kids phone. I use 360 too, coming from 240 on the Note 2.
[Nexus 5 General] BATZ DA LOCC:
420 is awesome
[Nexus 5 General] anndrius:
vov tried 300 and it's ridiculously small can't imagine using this, 420 is really good size for me, thanks to this thread :)
[Nexus 5 General] dmillerzx:
Still rockin' 439

Is 439 still the magic DPI where there isn't anything broken? (i.e. cut off notifications). I'm looking for something perhaps a bit lower but with the compatibility of 439.

So far I've been very happy with 439 vs 480!!

Lots of good info in this thread!
[Nexus 5 General] nht269:
Could you share your profile color?
[Nexus 5 General] mike.r.olson:
340 for me. I like to take advantage of this beautiful 1080p screen. :)
[Nexus 5 General] xanaxdroid:
361 or 370

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[Nexus 5 General] psp9000333:
I use 300, for better screen estate and overall it looks easier on the eye due to smaller icons.

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[Nexus 5 General] ssro:
340dpi
[Nexus 5 General] anndrius:
how do you guys read text so small in 300 dpi? i tried 380 dpi and it's very hard to read sometimes.
[Nexus 5 General] Laggalot:
you get used to it! im on 390

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[Nexus 5 General] Khant:
how did you get the custom buttons. looks nice
[Nexus 5 General] ssro:
I use Elix-R rom
[Nexus 5 General] klin1344:
445 looks pretty nice...that is the true PPI of our screen I believe.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Used to use 445 and jumped straight to 320.

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[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
That may be but Android dpi and ppi are not the same thing so there is no benefit in matching them to the Same value.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
I use 325. No issues and looks great. Mahdi ROM.
[Nexus 5 General] gd6noob:
400dpi and feels great... anything lower and my fat fingers just dont agree...:victory:
[Nexus 5 General] Highway 55:
445 also does some goofy things with the notification tray. Emails or any other expandable notification always seem to stay halfway expanded.

I like 425 because it seems to be the smallest you can get while still retaining the 4x6 app drawer.
[Nexus 5 General] DUCU 2000:
i use 440.
[Nexus 5 General] hummer010:
Me too. It seems about right to me.
[Nexus 5 General] BATZ DA LOCC:
361 so pimp

Validus W/ peek+uberSM+OKJ+GREENIFY ?AWESOMENESS? N5?
[Nexus 5 General] hikarugo:
425 here
[Nexus 5 General] Dekalog der Elemente:
Changed density to 400, think i can get used to this

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[Nexus 5 General] five40:
I used to run at 400 but switched to 380 recently
[Nexus 5 General] Dekalog der Elemente:
The font is quite small at 400, think it could get to small for my eyes on a lower DPI

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[Nexus 5 General] rootSU:
Was using 400dpi, now on 360, loving it.. :)
[Nexus 5 General] Akr706:
Been using 400 from few days. Now 480 looks much weird, those big big icons. :p
[Nexus 5 General] wim69:
Just switched from 370 (Omni) to 400, just a little better for my eyes...
[Nexus 5 General] CitizenLee:
I've posted in this thread before but here's some screenshots...

This is 360dpi with homescreen and app drawer icons set to 65% in Xposed GEL Settings.

I must have good eyes :D
[Nexus 5 General] charesa39:
Anybody having issues with app compatibility on the Play Store after changing DPI? I have mine set to 439, and when I go to "My Apps" in the Play Store on my N5, there are apps that are missing. If I go to a PC and find that app there, it says it's incompatible with my N5. I know it's DPI related because I was running stock for a while after a factory reset, and everything was there. I tried the Xposed Framework module ALL APPS IN PLAY STORE, which I thought had fixed the issue after wiping cache and data in the Play Store app because I immediately got some updates (including the Amazon app that was previously not showing up). However, this morning, I noticed the Amazon app is gone again. In ALL APPS IN PLAY STORE module, I left the default density value of 240. Anybody have success with this module? If so, what density are you using to report to the Play Store?
[Nexus 5 General] Flakito97:
480 DPI in the module. that's stock DPI.
[Nexus 5 General] charesa39:
Okay. Thanks. I tried 480, but I swear it didn't work even after clearing the app data for the Play Store. 240 did work, but obviously stopped working this morning. Maybe it was just a fluke last night. I'll change it to 480 and see if it sticks this time.
[Nexus 5 General] Flakito97:
yup also reboot
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
300

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[Nexus 5 General] Akr706:
I am on 376 from weeks. But it also has notification collapse issue like 445 and maps issue. Anyone figured out any dpi nearer to 376 to fix the notification collapse issue ? Just like 439 fixed the notification collapse issue of 445.
[Nexus 5 General] shri_chanakya:
Anyone facing issue searching for hangout apps in market after changing the lcd density other than 480? Any idea how to fix it?
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
Could you give an example of one of these apps? I'm using 320 dpi but I'm ignorant about what apps these might be.
[Nexus 5 General] shri_chanakya:
I was referring to Google hangout.
[Nexus 5 General] kilowatt95:
Running on 380 here...no issues.

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[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
Okay. You said apps (as in plural). I thought you were referring to apps that are complementary to Hangouts.

I have no problem seeing Hangouts in the Market at 320 dpi. Try one of the standard dpi settings (160, 240, 320, 480).
[Nexus 5 General] mart006:
im at 240 with galaxy xcover 2
[Nexus 5 General] x10man:
Anyone got more than five rows on the app launcher? I'm currently at 240 DPI and still at 5
[Nexus 5 General] calbrs:
I wasn't able to find hangouts in the app store for a few days and i'm running 450 on mine. And when I did manage to find hangouts, it said that it is not compatible. Yesterday it found it and updated to the latest version of hangouts. So I think it was google and not the phone with the problem.
[Nexus 5 General] ronnienyc:
What's wrong with the current Nova?
[Nexus 5 General] umesswitme:
No transparency same with apex unfortunately.
[Nexus 5 General] ahfunaki:
^^^ this
[Nexus 5 General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
Usually I do around 320-340 or so, but thats on my HTC One. Due to the software buttons on the nexus 5 I'll probably increase it a bit just so they aren't really small. Maybe 370-400. Of course when PA 4.0 is out I'll be rocking probably 400 for the system and then do per app how I like it.
[Nexus 5 General] umesswitme:
I can't wait for PA hopefullyj they manage to squeeze tablet mode back in. And I have to agree that 400 DPI after using it is pretty awesome.
[Nexus 5 General] britoso:
I'm using 380. No issues and I got an additional row and column in the launcher. (5x5)
[Nexus 5 General] elpeterson:
Can someone post their stock build.prop. Made a change to 400, the copied the original back and suddenly it won't boot. Want to make sure I didn't change anything else.
[Nexus 5 General] grim00:
Agreed. I've come from a Note 1 where the screen width was very generous (esp with its dpi tweaked) so had to something to grab back some real estate on this new baby.
[Nexus 5 General] Haemoglobin196:
I have found the same issue. Very frustrating know of any fix? I noticed the keyboard size at 360 is different to 359 or 361. Seems to be propotioned better with extra buttons. I am using swift key and the swift key option has its own dedicated key.
[Nexus 5 General] m3lover1:
Unfortunately tablet ui is confirmed to be not coming back
[Nexus 5 General] DevShaft:
Haven't found a fix yet. I guess we need the source for the new Google Search app, which is essentially the launcher. However Google Search is closed source. Maybe hacking the APK will do, but do not want to put the effort in.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
400 seems a good fit for me

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[Nexus 5 General] davwman:
What DPI has the least negative effect?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
480

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[Nexus 5 General] fallingd0wn:
360
[Nexus 5 General] davwman:
Let me rephrase my question. Besides stock dpi, what DPI would allow the nexus 5 to function as it would stock? Notifications, apps, keyboard etc, etc.
[Nexus 5 General] expertzero1:
i've been using 360 for about a day. I love it.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Most seem to work fine as far as I can tell. Its possibly mainly games that could be affected.

I suspect the further you get from stock, the more chance of something not working but all other devices have lower dpi so play apps shouldn't be an issue.

Googles android apps seem to scale well.

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[Nexus 5 General] davwman:
Running 360 as mentioned and so far so good. Holy screen real estate!
[Nexus 5 General] the7thson:
He guys, I'm running 360 dpi, it seems perfect for my needs.

Question: is there a way to change the nav bar at the bottom so the buttons are spaced a bit closer to each other? Right now the they are too far apart and the Menu button that I inserted is too close to Recents - see attached.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 5 General] PeteT:
Duplicate post, sorry
[Nexus 5 General] PeteT:
Yes I have 6, use 420
[Nexus 5 General] chainsuk:
Using 320 here no problems whatsoever i prefer icons small get more in single screen but thats just my prefrence.....:laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] :
Anyone changed the DPI in lollipop?
[Nexus 5 General] mldiroff:
I wish. I just don't feel like going through rooting right now, even if it feels like I'm looking through a magnifying glass lol
[Nexus 5 General] :
Here mine at 320
[Nexus 5 General] toxicpaulution:
What did you use to change it? Ice tried almost every app and file manager -.-
[Nexus 5 General] pepdavies:
I use BuildProp Editor. Works great
[Nexus 5 General] vin4yak:
Use Root explorer. Mount system as rw, edit build.prop. Works flawlessly! [emoji3]

-Sent from a Lollipop'd Hammerhead!
[Nexus 5 General] toxicpaulution:
I finally found a file explorer that allows me to change it and actually holds for L after 8 tries. Now I need to change my clock and my navigation bar buttons and I'd actually be content with this rom :p
[Nexus 5 General] noolis:
Density 320 and everything small
[Nexus 5 General] benleonheart:
nvm
[Nexus 5 General] stankyou:
Might as well contribute.

444 is my sweet spot. Doesn't crop the notifications like 445 does.
[Nexus 5 General] italia0101:
420 looks great on the latest Android Lollipop preview
[Nexus 5 General] TheROMGuy:
That's what I'm using. I think it looks good the status bar is just a tad small.
[Nexus 5 General] ngtongwu:
just got my nexus 5 with android lollipop via OTA. rooted using SuperSU and tried to change LCD Density using Solid Explorer. but stuck at a blank screen on restart. does anyone experiences the same issue?
[Nexus 5 General] Primokorn:
Nope. What did you modify? And how?
[Nexus 5 General] ngtongwu:
i edited the build.prop using solid explorer editor :confused:
[Nexus 5 General] Strategikqc:
I've noticed when i modify a system files with texte editor when i save its just save a blank file.

Maybe save your build.prop just erase everything.

Your can make a zip with a build.prop from any rom or stock rom zip and flash it.
[Nexus 5 General] albert_htc:
Android L @ 420

Very happy with it.
[Nexus 5 General] hi5rich:
Best for me on Android Lollipop is 424
[Nexus 5 General] kimroskas:
Why 424? Any particular reason?
[Nexus 5 General] hi5rich:
I think everything just looks like its right and perfect! But try it for yourself and tell me how you like it.
[Nexus 5 General] NuclearBastard:
439 since Jelly Bean.

Seemed back then it was one of the dpi settings that didn't break any app / Play store, plus it's not ridiculously small like other people I've seen here ;) just the right size.
[Nexus 5 General] ast00:
I use plain 400. I don't know why people use 424 or 439. It's (99.99999%) the same as 420 and 440.