yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
basically we are waiting for the rigorous testing of the framework done by many carriers and the manufacturer itself , though the testing of Sony is already done , it will most probably be testing again after carrier testing just slightly to be sure
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
I don't believe in that vodafone blog crap, yesterday we saw a rollout with several fw changes (according to the changelog) one day after the certification, no way they had time to sent it to vodafone AU, test and release it.. As I said before, I'm pretty sure Sony can release a fw whenever they want to, after the certification and their tests are completed.

edit: I mean, I get that vodafone AU might be testing the fw right now, but it's for themselves, they might be testing the modified carrier fw with the bloatware already.. and sony is waiting just because they want to, so the lag between the carrier and unlocked devices is not that big..
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
did that rollout require a big change like from 4.1.2 to 4.3 ;) ???

u gotta understand , this is not just some small update

if anything is messed up on the first release of this for carriers, it will be a problem

for the update to be a minor one , sony can just release will carriers if they have a problem they can stay with the previous one, as happens with many carriers
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
OnTpic: maybe u need sign another petition, so tomorrow when we have a new tweet about update u can say that was because of petition lol

Really OnTopic: 'early feb' actually sounds like at least the first two weeks, so Sony can just make long as he wants until feb 14.... what a shame... anyway, I'll still wait, SP is a great phone, and n update is no reason to get rid of a phone....
[Xperia SP General] Ungewiss:
Don't forget that not only the carriers need to verify the update.

First one appears to be Sony itself ;D

then ptcrb, then google, then the carriers (if the phone is branded).

Maybe there are some additional steps because of each countries own institution for certifying wireless devices.
[Xperia SP General] kingofmb:
If update not rolled out within 7 days after ptcrb certification, thats means firmware has been failed in testing by carrier, and next version will be provided to ptcrb for certification after 10 to 12 days. finger crossed for Monday guys.
[Xperia SP General] Sadman Khan:
Next Wednesday. Because it was certified on a Wednesday. If it doesn't arrive by thursday, i'll settle with the leaked 4.3
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
same what i expect...btw sony every time make suprise
[Xperia SP General] weedpuff:
Well this doesnt make any sense. XZ firmware cerfitief on 29th, released a day later? ***** please this is some bull**** prioritzing from Sony. And what if i bought my phone an a shop without carrier? Still waiing for bloatware?
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Why don't people listen... The change from our firmware to 4.3 is MAJOR the updates to the others is MINOR. Carriers do not need to verify every minor update that is put forward. Do you think they would spend money and time on verifying a change of font or wallpaper or an app. They are only interested that the major functions will work and your phone works with their network for phone calls,txt, sms, internet and maybe email. They are not interested in minor updates after that because that's all they will be and shouldn't effect the phone from being a phone. They verify the major updates so they can support the phone and firmware. If you install a non approved firmware then they won't support it and your warranty might be effected also. That is the reason for the major update verification. if Sony release it and all phones get screwed they don't get left with the hassle of people phoning them for replacements or moaning because it's not approved. That's why it's checked before release.
[Xperia SP General] smogf:
Jeez. Its saturday. Lets go drink!!! :D
[Xperia SP General] TsunaH:
Being drunk the day when 4.3 will be released is better \o

Sent from me
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
Any happy news from anywhere? lets hope it will happen on MONDAY................................................
[Xperia SP General] Depump:
i think may be Wednesday
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
The most used words in the thread

"hope","pray","think","guess"

:D:D
[Xperia SP General] kimikim0:
Hope So, Cross Finger :D
[Xperia SP General] smogf:
I said it once again. People. W8. And meantime ..... use your life :P

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[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Just a quick question guys.

Will we be able to update with PC Companion while running windows 8 /8.1?
[Xperia SP General] adfad666:
Happy news? This afternoon I was walking on a frozen lake with my gf, we heard some cracking so quickly got off the lake before the ice collapsed.

So you can be happy I survived to play with Android 4.3 kernel sources when they arrive...
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
Atleast somebody understood what I said...

U have been given a new life, u must live it properly, do not waste ur life, not everybody gets a second chance

^ haha :D it sounded more funny in my mind tho with a sad deep voice XD
[Xperia SP General] dontknow773:
I can imagine :D i might sound like some wise sensei (-_-)

Odoslané z C5303 pomocou Tapatalku
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
you're so hot, you can melt ice :D lol :D
[Xperia SP General] Kianush:
I have one question

can we update our phone to keep apps and games?

I have many apps n I really don wanna install them all over and there are settings and save games it would take me at least a month to have my phone like it was!!!!
[Xperia SP General] Danny_f55:
Yes, why not??

last time i update my phone i was using w8, but now i've the 8.1 and cant see a reason not to work
[Xperia SP General] dontknow773:
I think OTA update keeps your private data (games, even scores and saves, phoe numbers, settings, music, and other thinks) ;)

EDIT: and also the PCC should.... or am i wrong? :confused:
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
The last pc companion update has some compatibility issues with some machines running windows 8.1..

Btw, que coincidência também sou de Viseu. :silly:
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Once 4.3 is released, I hope they make a working Root and Recovery for it :D

and of course ROMs would arise
[Xperia SP General] Kianush:
first things first!

jus let them release it n then we'll talk about rooting it!
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
it's faster for developers to root a new firmware, than sony to release it :D
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
usually OTA updates do not wipe user data

repair option wipes user data

it will give u a warning if it wipes data
[Xperia SP General] Danny_f55:
Mine works no problem

Mesmo que coincidência :D
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
offtopic

one thing

from yesterday onwards my PCC shows like this (PFA). It wont detect my mobile, it detects as some smart phone and also only two options available xperia transfer and contacts). what can i do? is this only happens to me or everyone? i reconnect it several times. still the problem persist. pls reply urgent... sorry if it the off topic.....

Edit: i'm using windows Xp
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
we should believe our developers' ablities.:P
[Xperia SP General] mosesmick:
Wow this has everything
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Did you reboot your PC?

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] lukaskonvica:
My pc companion sometimes says I have C5302 but I have C5303
[Xperia SP General] mosesmick:
Exit companion then restart it
[Xperia SP General] jenci8888:
I sell my Xperia Mini Pro, and now i bought Xperia SP!

And im waiting 4.3 and 4.4 too...

Btw..everytime force close/game crash when started race in asphalt 8 (sry little off topic) i hope fix RAM managnet :)
[Xperia SP General] dontknow773:
I have had this problem too. TrY to restart your phone :) it worked with mine

Odoslané z C5303 pomocou Tapatalku
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
Problem solved,,,,

just uninstall every thing including drivers... and reinstall from web...now prob solved:laugh:
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
So quite...
[Xperia SP General] damin26:
you know what they say: before the storm, everything seems to be so quiet! ;)
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
the silence before the storm
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
Monday..........

Expect something.. because everytimne sony make wonders on that day. Like firmware releases...................
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
Waiting for a storm is better at least we have forecast and tons of info where its heading and when its going to land..
[Xperia SP General] alone_in_dark:
SONY Update.....
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
haha XD

but a storm is dangerous XD
[Xperia SP General] sourabhp:
If sony is taking so much time releasing 4.3, would they release 4.4 KK for SP? :cyclops::confused::rolleyes:
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
Today's the day?
[Xperia SP General] aursta:
Forget it:D
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
We have to forget about kitkat. :) .
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
4.4 kitkat??????

i cant wait for 100 years for that update................................ lol :)
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
PTCRB goes orange. What could it mean? Neverending saga again and again :)
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
KK? can we eat it?:P
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
No its blue in INDIA..................
[Xperia SP General] Kianush:
what does it mean if it's blue or orange???
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Orange indicates changes at that time but here in Holland the letters etc are blue.

And perhaps an idea to stop looking to PTCRB? I mean we know we will get the update in the upcomming week.
[Xperia SP General] Alex.D76:
in the past a new FW version was certified when the letters changed to orange before the version was released... But there are a lot of explanation in that thread what the colors mean...
[Xperia SP General] adfad666:
But what if it turns green? Or purple?

I watched this film last night, it was great. Perhaps you guys should too while we wait

[YOUTUBE]gvGyS5j9aFY[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia SP General] meshramjatin:
im observing PTCRB from morning, first it was Orange but after some time i reload the page and it turns to Blue in India..:confused::confused::confused::fingers-crossed:
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
I am waiting till 3 PM. If we won't receive it until that time, then we will propably not get it in this week and new version will be certified (testing again failed).

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] kwasiborek:
Guys that update is some kind of life changing event or something ? Because i am trying to understand posts : " oh oh is it today" , "one week more ? Noooooo " etc. :-o
[Xperia SP General] Ungewiss:
As has been said before: the colors have *nothing* to do with coming changes or something like that.

It's orange if you visit the device page from the ptcrb devices list and it's blue if you open the link directly/reload.
[Xperia SP General] Sadman Khan:
The certification came on a wednesday

So wait until wednesday. If it takes longer than that , another certification will be on the way
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
thanks for help me and macmol..:good:
[Xperia SP General] zolaisugly:
Lol. Guess who just got ricked rolled....:sly:
[Xperia SP General] JetArmstrong:
For me its orange for both ways.
[Xperia SP General] Ungewiss:
Then clear your cache. Maybe even clear the cookies. I have both disabled and for me (and some other guys) the color is only dependent on the way you open that website.

Edit: this is reproducible every single time I try it. ;)
[Xperia SP General] User013:
Xperia SP will get Jelly Bean 4.3 and of course KitKat 4.4 in future ... right? Sony needs to keep its promise. KitKat 4.4 update was one of the main reasons why i bought this phone.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
A normal person does not buy a phone because of updates..
[Xperia SP General] kt82:
And you define what is normal?

I guess normal person doesn't care about the reasons why someone buy a phone!
[Xperia SP General] asanmaca8:
This post should de renamed to "Whinings about Jelly Bean 4.3"

Enviat des del meu C5303 usant Tapatalk
[Xperia SP General] User013:
Then you can call me "abnormal" person if you want. I had several phones to choose between and i picked xperia sp. If you have phone with GB, ICS, JB, and one with KK, go with the latest version i think it's a pretty normal way of thinking.

[MENTION=5287318]stian3ddd[/MENTION]

It is always about the money. We gave them our money, now it is time for them to do their part of the deal.

[MENTION=1922478]asanmaca8[/MENTION]

Don't forget to add "...and KitKat 4.4"
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Having the latest android version is nice yes. But 4.1.2 and 4.3.x are both Jelly bean..

This thread is getting more and more off topic about when the update arrives and what will happen if Sony does not release the update anytime soon.

It is ridiculous
[Xperia SP General] User013:
Off topic kinda but it is not that bad, it is discussion about updates, news, also users opinions. I don't understand why people complain that much about this thread. If it is just news then someone go make new thread lock it and post information about updates, when new ones are available just edit old ones. Then people won't be able to go off topic, complain, whining, post memes...
[Xperia SP General] @non4:
I find 4.1.2 to be good enough (apart from the ram bug) I have found this on other phones too, further updates causing instability in apps/games that used to work fine. Sometimes a handful of features isn't worth the bother, I would happily use gingerbread as long as its fast and stable

Sent while my supervisor wasn't looking
[Xperia SP General] User013:
I agree with you, i don't really need google+, google now integration and all stuff that comes with newer versions, but newer version also mean faster and more stable phone, at least it should be like that.
[Xperia SP General] SammyXNA:
I don't think ima buy a sony midrange phone again
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
Chances are big my next device will be another Sony :D I gave the SP away to my younger brother, he is very content with it running Cyanogen :D

I'm happy with my Xiaomi M2S which will receive KitKat in march :victory:

Don't worry, be happy, because every little thing, is gonna be alright.

There are enough people who would sell this phone immediatly because that would equal the money they'd make working one whole year :eek:
[Xperia SP General] yo-meister:
How hasnt this thread been locked.

Perspective people...perspective.

However, I cant wait for my life and my phone performance to magically change with this holy update.
[Xperia SP General] ZakooZ:
Well.. let's just hope you don't have to wait until Mai because of delays
[Xperia SP General] adfad666:
Dude, seriously, quit with the whining about off topic already. If you want to be a forum moderator, apply for the position.

It's quite obvious the Xperia SP forum needs a place for people to vent their frustrations about such a long delay in receiving the Android 4.3. I personally check this thread because it gives me a laugh, I try to guess whether people are actually serious or not.

This one thread is much more desirable than the 50 or so other threads that would need to be created for all of the separate 'off topic' discussions that happen.

on topic to this side topic: Android version (or at least promise of) is second only to developer friendliness from the manufacturer in how *I* choose a device, as well as how I recommend to others. That's even if I know the person is never going to unlock the device and install a custom ROM, the purchase is still supporting the 'good' manufacturer.

And there are significant differences between Jellybean 4.1 and 4.3, (there's a reason why certain devices never got more than CyanogenMod 10) just check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
^ agree

This thread is too damn hilarious sometimes XD

Especially the whining XD
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
Dear Moderator,

Please I beg you... Don't ever ever close this thread. Since I bought my phone 3 weeks ago, there was no single day that I missed following this thread. People here are so kind and funny ;) This is the best thread in the whole XDA ever!!!

P.S. Can you please kick-out those who complain that we are off topic :D
[Xperia SP General] JetArmstrong:
News about 4.4,check it out : http://motoringcrunch.com/news/sony-xperia-android-kitkat-features-list/1005652/
[Xperia SP General] Bares:
+ 1000 :D

Regards
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
hahaha...you make me to laugh :laugh:

Information on this website like not truth..Xperia SP confirmed get 4.4 but not like t,tx, and v

yup, just talking about news but not get any news...:p
[Xperia SP General] alphaz1:
aww, my post was removed because it was deemed unsuitable for minors. i was merely pointing out his (hilarious) spelling error :p
[Xperia SP General] abhishekcal:
Yea this is actually the only thread that i check regularly.

Haters stop whining
[Xperia SP General] ArunThazhathuveetil:
May be our update will come on 6th. Atleast we can expect it before 10th Feb. I heard that they had some bugs in camera, ram management and battery. i dnt know it is true or not. I got the news from the Sony retail outlet here. They said, the update will arrive before 10th FEB, update is waiting for approval (they dnt know actually what type of approval) waiting for the miracle
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Wow, chill dude. It is funny how this thread has become over time but it is also ridiculous. I mean really 100+ pages of whining and complaining.. It is funny yes but also quite pointless but hey I will shut up now. Since logic is missing here sometimes:silly:
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
LOL.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Need MoARRRR JELLeee BEeeNZZ... 4.1 NOT ENUFFFF
[Xperia SP General] maiap:
4.3 update in the house!

Guys,

Great news!

I will post a review in the next 12 months. Promise! Make. Believe. 2015-02.

Please stay tune in this thread.

Sony Fake.Unbelievable

laugh::laugh:
[Xperia SP General] CallMeVentus:
ITT: Theories
[Xperia SP General] sanzNya:
So we'll get 4.3 next year? D**n you son.. (– ˛ — ٥ ) ..
[Xperia SP General] ashrafkh:
Damn Sony

It seems we will wait for 2020, with false promises from Sony

Sony 'I love you too, but **** you
[Xperia SP General] OsGhaly:
Could anyone give a link or an update concerning the firmware testing process at Vodafone Australia
[Xperia SP General] pabjimlop:
Still in the last week

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5/Vodafone-Blog/bg-p/Vodafone-Blog/label-name/software update
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
This isn't called a discussion for nothing but, I really think complaining here would not help at all.

I mean Sony Releases it when they want to so yeah
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Vodafone will update blog on 6 February, and I guess tomorrow will get update 4.3 :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
I had a chat with a reliable source from inside Sony earlier today. He confirmed that they are listening to our concerns and that they are closely monitoring user comments regarding the most awaited update. He also mentioned about a list of certain xperia sp units that will NOT be receiving the ota update. Unfortunately he was very reserved in disclosing the information why these particular units wont receive the update.

After some lengthy conversation and lots of strategic approach to gather information, I later found out that the reason being is that these units are owned by XDA members who keeps on whining bad words about Sony. :D

Peace! ;) Just for laugh people :P
[Xperia SP General] @non4:
Here are the solutions to those who can't wait:

Unlocked bootloader: Flash the leak

Locked bootloader: CRY!

:D

Sent while my supervisor wasn't looking
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
So I just talked with someone in sony's chat support and they guaranteed me that the 4.3 update was already out but not in my country/operator, and when I said I would show the conversation to everyone in forums and blogs he sent me sony's legal page :laugh:

Now I'm sure, sony's chat support is a joke.
[Xperia SP General] Kote1:
Screenshot?
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
Sorry, I accidentally closed the chat before I took a screenshot, but after that the person I was talking to sent me an email with sony's legal page link and where you can see the conversation ID number and his name. If you want that I can send it to you by PM. But FYI it's not in english.
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
haha sony chat support has always been a joked

never once has it given me a helpful answer
[Xperia SP General] Deathless93:
Yea, very funny, island monkey.
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
Island monkey? What does that mean? Explain yourself please.
[Xperia SP General] Deathless93:
Its a derogatory term for a British person.
[Xperia SP General] stickedy:
It would better to not translate some phrases - beacuse it's just awkward...
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
Still trusting... :D
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
Your wrong it means this expressing a low opinion or negative criticism of something.... Nothing about somebody who's British,

My bad you was mentioning about the island monkey bit, only just saw that,

And another thing this thread is getting out of hand now, everybody is just spamming the thing with utter rubbish and no news about the upcoming update,

Can admins kindly close this thread? Until the update is actually out
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
Don't enter this thread if you don't like it, just wait for a notification on your phone.But stop complaining about a thread on the general section..nobody really need your opinion so just stop it.
[Xperia SP General] Cloud1989:
Who said i was complaining about an update?... I don't recall saying I did, I was stating a fact like many other of the users have said about this thread as its been spammed by mardy drama queens who are crying over an update what hasn't come out yet, the thread is getting out of hand, and needs closing for the time been

And another thing don't tell me what to do :)

Kkthxbai
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I didn't say you complained about the update either.You complained about the thread that gets out of topic.And yeah I agree that it's just an update and people should stop crying about the delay, but since it's a thread on the general section and the update isn't out yet, people can say whatever they want, xda is a forum, not a court. :)
[Xperia SP General] Robin>Hood:
Well I learned something about Germans and their names for our friendly neigbours, the Brits :P

Did you know that by telling somebody not to tell you what to do you're telling him what to do? Seems contradictionary to me haha.

It's better for all the people whining about the update to do it here than make a mess of the whole forum :) And hey, the Sony devs need something to laugh at in their lunchbreak don't you think?:victory:
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
Chill out people;) its comming soon
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
If only we knew wat 'SOON' meant:(:-oO:)
[Xperia SP General] omidlolo:
Soon : Nov

Sooon: 1st Sep

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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon: last day in 2013

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon : 1st day of 2014

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon: 2nd day of 2014

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Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . . (* 1000000 of o) + n: 2099

And we're still waiting. :mad:
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
after the update has been released,how many days will it takes our great developers to make a ftf file?:)
[Xperia SP General] Sahaab:
ftf file can be made within 5 minutes
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
Sounds great.:P
[Xperia SP General] omidlolo:
LOL

:D:laugh:
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
Don't believe in that twitter account, a week ago they also said we would get 4.3 in January.. they probably know as much as we do about the updates.

Let's face it, if sony doesn't release .266 today or tomorrow I guess there's no need to keep waiting for the update to come out soon, because it has been rejected and there's another fw awaiting certification.. at least we have this thread to keep us entertained. :D
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
:angel: