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[Nexus 5 General] Zandeer:
I think their only point was, if you start having comparison threads, where does it end?

But I like reading threads like this, cause I am also in teh 2 year upgrade club. I am coming from the HTC Sensation, very similar specs to the GNex, and I am loving life on the 5.

I also think that is the big split, on Nexus 5 performance on this forum. Some people are comparing it to a 2 month old phone, for their perception. While others are comparing it to a 2+ year old phone. I can imagine if I had the G2 or S4 and bought the Nexus 5, I wouldn't be nearly as impressed as I am coming from a dual core 768 MB of Ram phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Blown 89:
Thanks for the comparison! I'm coming from a Gnex as well. The N5 is sitting in my desk drawer right now, I hope to sneak out at lunch and get a sim card for it. My biggest concern is the screen. I love the GN's screen and I'm not sure I'm ready for a screen where the blacks aren't black. I loved the GN, it's a great phone. We'll see tonight how I feel about the switch.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
You serious about the GNEX screen or you trolling?
[Nexus 5 General] rokfor2000:
The point is that Mr. Big Shot doesn't have GNex and doesn't care if anyone else will find it useful, but has to say something anyway. I believe that's called trolling. It was useless spam in context of this thread. It's not for him to decide if the thread is worth it or not (once again well done OP and BIG Thanks!).

There was number of threads comparing it to N4 and G2 but non to GNex. If you ask me this one is more useful than comparison to N4 (locked in 2 year contract as well). Other people read it. G2 vs Nexus5 on the other hand makes sense as it help you choose the right phone for you now.

Other comparison threads mention bad/quiet speaker on Nexus5. It made me worried because Gnex was really quiet. But this one say that it's way better than GNex which gives me a reference point and I know I can live with it
[Nexus 5 General] Blown 89:
Nope. Loved the screen.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
If you loved the GNEX screen then you might be disappointed in the N5 screen. I thought the GNEX screen was terrible and the N5 screen looks amazing. You might think the total opposite then. Lol
[Nexus 5 General] crimson12:
I also went from a gnex to the nexus 5. Remember the breath of fresh air that 4.3 brought to the gnex? Imagine that, but instead of a breath of air, someone has strapped a mask with pure oxygen to your face. It's euphoric. The gnex is still fast, but those little things like home screen redraws and the gps doing its own thing are gone. I didn't think I would be so blown over by how much better it is. It really is a gorgeous phone. If you want any comparison pictures or something, let me know.
[Nexus 5 General] Blown 89:
That's exactly what happened. My N5 is powered up next to me and neither the viewing angles nor the blacks are good. My apps are still downloading from the Play Store so I haven't had much time with the phone but the screen definitely jumped out at me as not being spectacular.
[Nexus 5 General] jonnyg1097:
I was in the same boat as you when I got my nexus 5 today and I agree with everything you said.
[Nexus 5 General] SplitCold:
I still have my galaxy nexus but my N5 is gonna be here today!!
[Nexus 5 General] licht77:
OK this is really strange. Got both here (Gnex is 2 years old) and "my" N5 display is clearly: brighter, better black, no washed out whites and got better angles. In one sentence: just better in all attributes. Maybe on monday I can post a picture of both.

So either my GNex was a "monday device" (but i was always confident with it) or there are different versions or qualities of the N5 out.

PS: Updated the first post

PPS: Thanks for those not trolling :)
[Nexus 5 General] divinewisdom:
Gnex to N5 here as well.

I miss the default messaging app on the Gnex. Hangout and Google trying to integrate everything takes a bit getting use to.

the N5 is a big step up from the Gnex though. People complain the speakers were bad, they never heard the Gnex's speaker.

haha
[Nexus 5 General] TiltedAz:
Wow it's nice and fast! It feels naked without a case, back plate is a bit slippery for my taste. Otherwise very nice upgrade over the GNex.

My wife will be jealous - we'll see if it's enough for her to dump her unlimited data VZN contract.
[Nexus 5 General] licht77:
Interesting: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2520056
[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
I know that most people liked or still like the GNEX, but it has been the crappiest Android phone I ever owned. Screen was garbage. Build was garbage. Every 3rd app in the background got killed because of memory issues and so on. The S2 was a way better phone during that time although it had a lower resolution screen.

Anyway the N5 is 10x better in every aspect!
[Nexus 5 General] dandwhelan:
I owned a gnex and have made the move to nexus 5. Tbh the gnex is still a good phone considering its 2years old
[Nexus 5 General] britoso:
Same here, 1 3 5

This phone is amazing but the gnex is no slouch either.

Biggest pluses are the Camera , CPU , Screen and Battery.
[Nexus 5 General] blackhand1001:
I noticed it as well on my friends nexus 5. Its a shame they didn't use a panel as good as the one in the 2013 nexus 7. I would rather have 323 ppi with that contrast and view angles then 440ppi with poor contrast and underwhelming view angles. The difference between the two is huge.
[Nexus 5 General] TiltedAz:
I can see complaining about television monitor viewing angles as everyone can't sit directly in front of the screen but users of smartphones normally have their hands controlling the view angle. Seems like a silly argument to complain about something you have instant control over.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it was a design feature optimizing brightness while maintaining low power consumption or reduced environmental light disturbance.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
I would like to see those pictures because there is no way the N5 can have better blacks than an AMOLED display. AMOLED literally has perfect blacks, it emits no light. The best you could do is as good as that, and for an LCD that seems really unlikely.

Anyway, thanks for the thread, I was looking for perspectives from fellow GN owners.
[Nexus 5 General] davy917:
OP, I'm not sure how you can have better black than... Black. Gnex has AMOLED aka black = no light.
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
I own a Galaxy Nexus (primary phone currently) and an S2 for a short time I can tell you one thing straight. The blacks on the Galaxy Nexus are pathetic. The backlit is still on. The S2 had a very dim backlit with blacks, but the Galaxy Nexus was bright even when displaying blacks. Yea at its time it was still beating phones with LCD in blacks but I'm not surprised if today's LCDs outshine the rubbish AMOLED panel on the Galaxy Nexus.

I call the panel on the Galaxy Nexus rubbish because it was a panel lottery. A lot of people were getting panels with purple tint with low brightness, vertical lines with MEDIUM (not low) brightness, uneven color across the screen. I even had friends with Galaxy Note 1 that had the same problems.

I replaced my screen 2 times and now its a decent panel that still is too strong with greens. Thank God we can fine tune the colors but the interface for changing colors is also semi broken when you reduce the greens.

Another aspect to remember is that AMOLED deteriorate pretty quick. I had a friend who used an S2, after using it a year, he had nice vertical lines all over his screen when displaying whites. Today, his display is an eyesore to look at.

I saw a friend's stock Nexus 4 and yes the screen was undersaturated beside my Galaxy Nexus, but at least I saw whites and grays (Quick Settings) didn't have that awful shade of green all over. I know I can never stand another AMOLED garbage display.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
I don't think you understand what an AMOLED display is. The S2 did not have a "very dim backlight" because AMOLED screens have no backlight. The individual pixels emit light, and black pixels are literally turned off. It's impossible for an AMOLED screen to display anything but perfect blacks. The other colors might be calibrated poorly on older AMOLED panels, but black is always black.
[Nexus 5 General] Cleanskinned:
I bought my Gnex from the Play store a couple months before it was replaced by the N4. Mine has perfect blacks and great color reproduction. I wonder if this is a newer revision that has an improved screen. I haven't tried an N5 yet, but the Gnex is still a competent smartphone.

And licht77, thank you for this relevant thread. :)
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
I'm pretty sure you never had the phone graphic driver/brightness controller derped (faux SOD issues) on you like 4.2 /4.2.1 did on my Galaxy Nexus. The screen would "light up" and remain black, a faint LCD like backlit can be seen and dark black spots appear in a dark room. The dark spots are another unrelated AMOLED issue. But whatever the case I would like to say is they have their own "backlit" and pixels DO NOT really shut off totally.

Its widely reported by the way. I can find more links, but I think 3 would suffice.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNexus...e_galaxy_nexus_has_an_amoled_screen_why_does/

http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/qpfmSd0cxKU

http://forums.wpcentral.com/samsung...xels-not-turn-them-off-believed-try-test.html

The black dot issue is also widely reported to by the way across many other devices too:

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=black+spots+amoled+dark+room&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

I got fooled once thinking AMOLEDs are awesome but have widely inaccurate whites. Today, after owning a phone with AMOLED, I'm sold to never buy an AMOLED phone ever again until major changes are made.
[Nexus 5 General] licht77:
Hi! Sounds reasonable and i am kinda disappointed by the comparison images i just added in the first post. Without going into psychology i am sure what i saw - maybe the testimage on the other day was not real black but dark grey, different light conditions - i cant tell. :)

But in reality i think the g5 image is much better than the gnex what i cannot proof with those images unfortunately. :)
[Nexus 5 General] zenrage:
I wanted to put in my 2 cents on this comparison as well. :) I had a GNex for the past 16 mo. It was a solid phone and it lasted without a case. It was limited on memory so I was forced to pick and chosoe which apps I wanted running. This became a big annoyance, especially when apps would crash due to memory issues. I bought the Samsung extended battery and have lived off of that. It has barely been enough to get by for me. Usually charge overnight, but more recently I've needed to charge during the day too. Frustrating. I also had lots of lag, like LOTS.

The new N5 I have is great. It can now run every single app I want without limitation. I still have 900MB memory free. :) The performance is great - websites load without delay. So much more responsive. No lag, unless I'm installing 50 apps. ;) But my biggest con is the battery life - it seems no better than my GNex. Since the battery is only slighly larger it shouldn't be too surprising, but I am still forced to charge during the day. I just used the phone mountain biking with 2 GPS apps, and they drained it from 85% down to 15% in ~6 hours. I don't think it would have been as bad on my GNex. Even recently I recall being pleasantly surprised at how much battery was used on my GNex for this.

So for folks who have a device and are having battery life troubles, consider the size of your current battery and calculate it out linearly IMO to determine the impact of switching to this phone. (everything else being equal - LTE, apps, etc). This device provides no magical "Battery Life Got Better" feature.

Due to this I will be following things to see if anyone provides an extended battery and case cover. It will be worth it for me. And yes, it is totally technically possible for someone to build. Not cheap, but worth it.
[Nexus 5 General] Molitro:
I only have to turn on my GNex and go to a dark room to corroborate this.

The GNex does NOT turn off backlight on blacks. It was pretty noticeable, actually, coming from an SGS2.

The viewing angles are better than the N5, but that's pretty much it. Blacks are a bit worse in the IPS panel, but since they weren't turned-off-pixel blacks in the GNex, the change is not particularly traumatic.

And then we have all the problems the GNex panels had (paper effect, purple tint, banding...). I got lucky and had a pretty decent panel in my GNex, and still it was a bit sad to look at in some conditions.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
Sorry you've had so many issues. That really sucks. All I know is that my S4's display is basically perfect and I'm genuinely going to miss it when my N5 comes. I've compared it to high-end LCD screens and it absolutely holds its own. It's the best AMOLED display I've ever used. They've improved a ton since the Gnex days.
[Nexus 5 General] nesx87:
As i understand people had mixed experienced with battery.. I have gnex at 1700 mah sumth like that.the n5 is 2300.. I assume s800 is more power hungry than TI processor in gnex? Also bigger screen.. Damn i want to switch but battery in gnex is crap
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
That's good to hear. But I find the S4 to be too saturated (played with it at a shop) for my taste. And they should have improved on the miserable state of 1st gen HD AMOLED problems by now haha. My 2nd replacement screen isn't too bad actually. But still very badly calibrated from the factory.

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I think its gonna be better. I hardly manage to get 4hr screen on time with full WiFi on the Gnex. People are getting 3-4 hr screen on time easily with a mix of 3G/4G and WiFi on the N5.
[Nexus 5 General] samagon:
I too switched from the gnex to the n5. Got the gnex when it released for way too much, but at the time it was worth it IMO.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who went from n1 to gnex, the n5 is that much better than the gnex than the gnex was better than the n1. huge improvement. Biggest changes are speakers (earpiece and external), crispness of the display, and the coating on the back of the phone.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
4hrs of screen on time?? Do you have an extended battery? 2hrs is about the best I get on my GN, and from what I've read that seems to be the norm.
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
You dont have any idea how amoled works. I also have an N5 and a GNex here, when on the GNex there is a black area it is totally black, even on maximum brightness. Do I really have to make a picture in a dark room compared to the N5??

E.g. on the Bootscreen there is nothing alight apart the "google" logo or the Jellybean bootlogo. The rest of the display looks like it is OFF.

There is nothing to talk about it is EXACTLY as I describe. (same on every Galaxy S (since S1). I had many AMOLED Phones in my hands (every S series from Samsung) and this is normal AMOLED behavior if you see a lightning in a black area you maybe look at a grey area or have a problem with your eyes
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
I have made a pic with my cam,

Left: Galaxy Nexus (100% Brightness)

Right: Nexus 5 (100% Brightness)

Screen: Google search "Black jpg" first picture result on both.

The black parts on the GNex screens are exactly like "OFF" you can not see ANY lightning = pixels are off @ the moment (how else should Red Green and Blue Subpixels show Black without backlight (or is there a new "black subpixel" we didn't know about)??? There is NO OTHER POSSIBILITY so excuse but your talking bull****.

The Gnex has the most best blacks you can get because pixels are off.

Unfortunately my cam cannot focus at the dark room so the pic is a bit blurry. I also can make a Google bootlogo comparison then you can see the differens even better because you dont have the bright white areas at bottom and top of the screens.

Edit: I would love to have an amoled on the N5 or a 3LCD like in the HTC One but so far the N5 display is also OK for me. I wait for color calibration capable kernels to adjust it a bit.
[Nexus 5 General] alpha-niner64:
As a current Gnex user. I can never get over the fact that newer phones don't have removable battery. Also, the battery life isn't much better than the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 4 wasn't much better than the Gnex. But at least with the Gnex: I have a USB Battery Cradle such that I can swap any time to get full-life. I've played extensively with the Note 3 and the performance difference isn't as huge a deal as the OP is making it out to be.

But the GPS difference is definitely noticeable. Qualcomm seems to know something the rest of the market doesn't regarding to GPS tech. Even better than the Exynos SoCs IMO.
[Nexus 5 General] Saturn1217:
Can anyone comment on the relative sizes of the phones. I know I can look up the dimensions any time I want but I haven't had a chance to find a Nexus 5 in store to compare. The GNex is an ok size for me. I have never tried anything bigger and I'm worried the Nexus 5 would be too big. Anyone with experience upgrading care to comment on the in hand feel and one-handed usage for the Nexus 5?

Thanks!

PS I find this thread immensely relevant and was really glad to find it. I really don't understand this "there are too many threads" attitude. Why are you on this forum if you don't want to read new threads?!
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
I loved my Gnex, it is really a great phone and has enough performance for a "dialy usage" BUT compared to the Nexus 5 it is slow as f*ck! Compared to the Nexus5 it is like it would be the a cheap china clone phone with 600mhz cpu. Worlds apart

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I also feared that it might be to big since the Gnex was really the maximum size I wanted to use. I have now the N5 for a week and the size is also perfect so far. It is smaller as my Gnex with Diztronic TPU case (which is also really slim). I am still waiting for the delivery of my N5 cases and with them it will get a little bigger but I hope and think it still will be ok.
[Nexus 5 General] ez12a:
Also another gnex to nexus 5 owner.

Much better in virtually all aspects (cant think of any in which the gnex is superior at the moment).

pentile vs. the IPS in the nexus 5 is night and day. Though the AMOLED is known for high saturation (some think too high).

if i really had to nit pick:

-lack of removable battery? meh, i never carried spares on my person with the gnex
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
Here some size comparison.

the wide is about the same when I holding it. I cant make a difference.

About the battery: For me the N5 is verryy good. I also never carried a second battery or batterypack with me and the N5 battery-time is like double compared to my 2 year old Gnex with first battery
[Nexus 5 General] f1ip:
It's only about 2.4mm longer and 1.3mm wider than the Gnex.

It fits just a little more snug in the same PDAIR holster that I use for the Gnex. At least I dont need to buy a new one.

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GNEX: 135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm

Nexus 5: 137.9 x 69.2 x 8.6 mm

I dont have large hands, feels about the same.
[Nexus 5 General] kyacrash:
Here's a video comparing all Nexus phones, pretty cool. GNex still holds it's own. personally I loved mine, I did have an SIII in between my Gnex and N5, but only because I got it for free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHOmKY09EK4
[Nexus 5 General] justis s:
For me the biggest benefit from my gnex has got to be the battery. I was lucky to get 3 hours screen on time and had to charge it constantly at work and in class, now I can get 5-6 hours screen on out of this beautiful device... the aesthetics help quite a bit, too. I used to be a huge fan of OMAP, but I'm starting to like qualcomm. Definitely more tools available for these processors too, which is nice!
[Nexus 5 General] MisterEff:
That is why I don't advise using quick root tools. I find that learning how to root and use your phone with adb helps greatly when something inevitably gets messed up. It only takes a couple commands on the nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] wouwousoft:
And that's exactly how I restores my phone after which I rooted manually! It was really easy :)
[Nexus 5 General] Molitro:
I know perfectly fine how an amoled should work.

I'll see if I can take a picture of what we're talking about tomorrow.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] samagon:
The phone is a good size... BUT... From bottom left corner on the gnex to the power button is 4.5". From bottom left corner to the power button on the n5 is 5.25".

3/4" doesn't sound like too much, but this may make the button inaccessible for 1 handed use by people who hold the phone in their left hand (me being one).
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
Okay 3-4 hours on full wifi at home great signal. If I'm outdoors, with average signal no wifi full 3G it goes all the way down to 1.5-2.5 hour screen on time. On stock battery on Galaxy Nexus

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Yeap I suppose I got issues with my eyes. Like people have said before, you must be in a totally dark room to even see it.
[Nexus 5 General] Molitro:
The N5 camera doens't capture it. I'm gonna try with a compact i have, but i doubt it'll capture enough light to show it without a farily large exposure time.

Let me tell you anyway, that once I turn on the phone and get the google and bootlogo screens, is absolutely obvious that the whole panel lights up. Of course it is not so much light as an LCD IPS, but it is there, and it is clear.

We're not making this up, the blacks aren't turned-off-blacks.

Edit: Well my compact has decided that since I have used it so little lately doesn't want to turn on any more, so... Can't even try to take a picture of it.

But there is no doubt. Go to a dark room, turn on the GNex. You'll see perfectly fine when the screen is on or off just by looking at a black part of the google or bootlogo screens.

It so clearly there... The google screen shows up and the blacks become a litle lighted, then it goes off and the screen turns off again, then the bootlogo comes and the blacks become backlighted again.

That you're saying, fireproofrev, that this doens't happen can only mean, either there are different panels with different behaviours, or you haven't actually paid attention to it, or you're just trying to deny the obvious based on how an amoled SHOULD work.

It isn't easy to show in a picture because the light is very dim (so your picture doens't tell me anything, of course an LCD is gonna have way brighter blacks, and if your amoled did in fact light up, it's easy it wouldn't show). But the lighting is clearly there to see.
[Nexus 5 General] MordyT:
About amoled and blacks.... The fact is the pixels turn off when displaying black. The backlight may still be on (that seems to vary), the pixel is off (which gives a better black and some battery saving). Look it up online, there is no need to argue it here.