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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nontrivial:
QTopia Problem

I installed the QTopia image over the weekend but for whatever reason the pointer/screen is not working. I can sort of use it using just the keyboard but it is mostly unusable. When I boot back in to WM5 everything is fine. Am I missing something? Is this a common problem? Should I reinstall? I don't mind wiping the phone if I have to.

James
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] datathief:
Debian on the HTC Universal

I've been hard at work for the last couple of weeks, and I now have Debian GNU/Linux running on my Uni - including command-line tools for sending and receiving SMS, making and receiving calls, and connecting via GPRS/UMTS.

My Linux-running Uni is now my primary phone.

See here for progress so far.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] romanrm:
Let me be the first to say, simply,

OMG. :)

I will definitely be trying this out, Debian is my favourite desktop distro. Having a real Debian install on the Uni is the ideal solution for me. Thank you very much.

I have found some good instructions on installind armel port of Debian onto an ARM device here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Cagnulein:
OMFG You're a ****ing genius!

/me have to buy a new SD
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Thats great news, keep up the good work. I tested debian once on my Uni, but that was the regular arm version. It ran without any problmes (no phone support) but i think it where to slow.

I guess this new embedded version runs faster. When i get time i will test it out.

Keep us up 2 date about your progress and maybe we should make a binary install image out of it when it's ready for users.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] aes512:
Is anyone ever going to fix the acx driver issue for the Universal? Running Linux on the Uni is somewhat of a pointless idea for many, if it cannot work as a server or to run other essential wireless based apps.

Without a truly working wifi driver Linux on the Universal is really no better than WM :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fgarpe:
Debian on Universal

This is a great notice, I'm a Debian user and I think that I can contribute creating user interfaces for console aplications like phone, volume control, etc. Please hurry up with the image.

Thank you very much
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kcabbie:
Updated my phone to 4.3 today and afterwards I got a notification about security. While viewing the details of the agreement I see that it is to enable automatic updating. I do not want this as I do not want another update. I plan on rooting this s4 as soon as one is available. Unfortunately I am having to type in my account pin every time I unlock my phone. Any way around this?

Thanks for any help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Crawshayi:
You should have done some reading before updating... for one thing there already is a method to keep root if going to 4.3 and the Knox security "features" are pretty well known right now. There is also a security popup bug that Samsung is aware of and it's just something you have to deal with until it's patched. Since you are already on 4.3 there is a method to root but not everyone is convinced it's safe to use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kcabbie:
Thanks for the reply! I am aware I should have done some research. I previously had a thunderbolt that was rooted. Only so that I could use wifi tether. I use roughly 40gb a month via my wifi.. needless to say It is needed! This update blocked free wifi teather so now i will be rooting.

I will wait until It is proven safe.. or atleast thought to be by the majority of users. Thanks again.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] DustinKimble:
So before finding out about this I have already rooted with it and now all of the xda admins are advising not to use this. After a good bit of reading I guess this app has sent www.wmshua.com my imei. It uses their exploit and their patches and makes it seem like they made a root method. This is a deceptive app and I wish I would have never used it. The lest this app developer could have done was change the layout of the program and download all the patches and hosted them himself. Not I fear some conglomerate in China has my imei and will use it at a later date to do a worldwide hack or something. I understand there is no going back so I'll just uninstall the app and hope nothing bad comes from this....
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Agent:
Designgears seems to endorse it on his de la vega thread so I would think it's ok.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] eagle0042:
I think that post was before it was questioned that Kingo could contain malware.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] DustinKimble:
Yea it was. Someone needs to dissect the program, see what info is collected, what is downloaded, and what's transfered to the phone and all that dissected. I don't have hardly any knowledge on how to do this but I'm about to attempt this. I wish I had a whole day and a couple adderall I could dedicate to digging into this.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] agustincordoba:
I'm in no special hurry to root my 9005, so I can happily wait for the next version. Hopefully somebody more knowledgeable than I can take that *.exe apart and so what load it carries, if any.

In any case caution is a virtue...

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
The reason manufacturers and carriers do not like rooting is the security issues. It has nothing to do with them trying to prevent tethering or modifications. With that said any root method not developed and hosted on XDA by a known developer should be used with extreme caution. Exploits are not required to have source posted and it takes a great deal of time and effort to reverse them to see what they do.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] seano666:
I would encourage everyone to make their own decisions on this. I'm keeping my Kingo root, as I contacted them and was satisfied with the response I received. I like open source as much as the next guy, but not every piece of software can be open source. That doesn't mean that the application is malware.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
The world's espionage leader right now seems to be the US, not China. AT&T users in particular should consider the most recent apying revelation: NYT:cia-is-said-to-pay-att-for-call-data
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
So what exactly could they do with said information? There's nothing extra running on our phones after using it to root. Plus its not like they didn't actually supply us with a simple root method. I could understand the concern if it didn't work
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] defectiveleader:
I have to agree with you. I'm not even remotely worried about it. The program works.

It scares people on here, so maybe not host it on XDA, but Kingo has their own site.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
I understand the fear. Its also interesting that they have a root method for many devices. So maybe they have a reason to not be so open. Maybe they've found the mother of exploits and they don't want it to be closed.

Or with all this talk about how they want to keep root free but pay their devs means they are going to use this super exploit to lock devices and charge people to unlock them in order to use it. Idk I'll wait a day or 2 and see what comes of this whether that's a good idea or not idk. Time will tell. Either way I've got designgears' one click stock on my PC just in case.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] funfordds:
If you wanted to be safe, couldn't you just disconnect from the Internet while you root and then reconnect after? Or does it require an active Internet connect to root?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] drwario:
Tried that no go
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
This is weird now. Im rooted with kingo and now I dont know if its safe. Im thinking now of unrooting
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Just went back to stock. But still afraid of the imei stuff
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Zwarx:
Well theres nothing extra running on the phone with Kingo. People are way to paranoid
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
As far as can be seen the information is grabbed and sent during the rooting process which is why it will not work without an active internet connection. Kingo is working on a revision to remove the data collection.

Also note thread cleaned

Profanity is NOT acceptable on this site...ever!

FNM
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] khaytsus:
You can't unscrew a girl.. Whatever is done, is done. Now you just have to root again... :rolleyes:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] refinition:
Wait, so if i've rooted using kingo..is it safe to stay rooted with their exploit or do i have to wipe + reset?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
Just wondering: how did you establish that?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Zwarx:
You can explore the processes on the phone with root. I've rooted with both design gears and kingo. Nothing is different
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rippley05:
Does Kingo root require a factory reset?

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ledierck:
No, it doesn't.

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] sreadesjr:
Just wondering sense XDA was worried about the IMEI being sent to kingo and kingo now removed that from happening in there 1.1.2 version. Which I asked on FB if they had remove the program from doing this now and the answer was yes it no longer sends out your IMEI to them. Can anyone confirm this is true on XDA?? Cause seems like people trust XDA and also want to trust in this new root by Kingo which also seem to be trying to be trust worthy. Just trying to find out if it's accepted by XDA yet so others will be at ease.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Removing it now doesn't remove the rightful suspicion of what they did earlier.

Who knows what they added instead?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Ragnar:
There is no question to whether it's legit or it works. There has been nothing said to suggest that the integrity of the Kingo developers is in question.

What XDA is concerned with is the fact that your devices Serial number and IMEI numbers are collected during the root process. This is something which is not necessary at all in order to achieve root. They also use free servers in China in order to minimize cost to themselves.

That is the concern. The reason you have seen back and forth on the subject is that it takes time for developers to reverse engineer the process to see exactly what it does.

So XDA at this time has taken a position that links to the Kingo or vRoot methods will not be posted on XDA. You are free to use Google and search it out and use any method you want. You aware of the risks just like any other mod you do your device.

Kingo has said they are correcting this and will be coming out with an app which will be self sustained and connection to their servers will not be necessary. They say it will be 2.0

Until such happens we will not be allowing the links, but you can discuss it all you want.

To be accusing the Kingo developers of doing underhanded things is just wrong and total made up speculation. XDA has to take the communities safety as priority #1.

Just look at this way would you take a screen shot of your devices status screen posting all your IMEI and personal information on a public forum on a site of developers and hackers?

It's always better to error on the side of safety.

EFM

Have a great day!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] sreadesjr:
edfunkycold

thank you for responding and giving a great response on why and what's what. i do understand the risks on all root methods and understand what happen from the start was wrong by them. which made it shady and at least there trying to clean up there act and hopefully they prove that all data collected on rooters that was collected has been deleted. i also know xda's priority #1 is safety and I trust in this site as do others that's is why I asked on here to start with. I was just unclear on somethings and believe u cleared them up for me and I'm sure others. I hope everyone keeps up the great work here and didn't mean to offend anyone or the site in original post at all. If I did I'm truly sorry.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] axtn95:
Pretty much. They basically confirmed they were doing it. Closed source exploit with mandatory internet connection required...is fishy, to say the least.

Also, anyone know if the data is collected after rooting or before hand, like when installing drivers.

The reason i ask is i downloaded and installed the application on my pc just to see the format, connected my already rooted N4 and just gave me an unroot option (i didnt click or use anything). I'm wondering if my imei is in some chinese guys laptop by now...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
How did you unroot your device? used the Unroot button from Kingo root?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
No. I flashed via odin stock firmware
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
Ok. Just don't know if the unroot button from kingo root works :)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] LuckyColdJohnson:
It did for me.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Guess we now have a million sleeper cell zombie phones waiting to be a activated upon the next cyber warfare.

And also Millions of walking recording spy beacons to pickup trade secrets and other sensitive information to be sold to the highest bidder. Lol

And also valid IMEI for phones that have been black listed.

:D
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Yeah thanks for creeping me out more. I unrooted and until now everything's working well.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bfleischman:
odin Stock Firmware

Can someone post a link to the stock Firmware.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Wow, it's amazing. Looks like Bruce Wayne was behind Kingo afterall : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6cv0KsTTfY

But At least we know we're in the good hands of Morgan Freeman.

---------- Post added at 03:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:48 PM ----------

OUCH!!!!!!

Now it looks like you and your grouppie are caught in between a rock and a hard place. How embarrassing lol :D

Or perhaps, it's a little suspicious that you tried to persuade the community so confidently of the safety of Kingo app, isn't it? :laugh:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
I saw mtkcamera pop up when I was rooting after the new ota. It showed up in the verify apps thing and that was it. Haven't see it since.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Lucky me im still in guarranty with at&t. Going to get a replacement phone tomorrow.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Now THAT is paranoia! Although if something crazy happens I'll eat my words lol
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
I paid for a new phone and got a refurbished one. I think it was a good excuse. Now im free of all the china issue lol
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Missed that part.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Is fine. They managed my case quickly. Got a perfectly new unit with a sealed box
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
How do you know what the refurbished one went through ?

I wonder if Samsung generates a new IMEI before re releasing the refurbished phones.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
As soon that it came to mail I noticed the box wasn't sealed. Then when I got the phone out saw a little dent plus it didn't had all the factory stickers. And after reading about the kingo root I decided to use that as an excuse to get a new phone with a new serial and imei.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
They let you get a completely new phone just because you asked for one?

Don't these phone companies usually have firm policies (beyond the sales reps power) on what phones are provided for exchanges?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
I was in the 14 days period of exchange the device if any problems occurs. Went back to stock and told them I wanted a new device
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Yes, if your still within your refund period you can ask for a new device or.... a refund.

Good thing you found out fast
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
What caught my attention is that the employee didn't even turn on the device to see if it was rooted or not.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
This may come as a shock to most of the folks here at XDA but most cell phone sale reps aren't exactly XDA developers.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Sales reps don't care. As long as they keep their commission. I traded in an amp at guitar center the other day and they didn't even check to see if it worked. Didn't plug it in. Didn't turn it on. The guy hardly even looked at it before handing me my cash. All he really did was look st the model/serial number and that was it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Same here. She just looked that the serial and imei of the phone was the same as the box and thats it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ToastyD:
Has anyone found the file location of the MTKcamera thing that installed during the root process? I can't seem to find it anywhere...can't freeze on tibu or anything.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Wonder if it's like stuxnet, and is sophisticated enough mutate and hide from detection until called.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] agustincordoba:
Quite likely. Inspired by some government project, I expect. Now what I don't know is what I can use to safely and easily root my 9005; I was lucky in that I didn't get around to trying Kingo the other week because I just didn't have the time. This has saved me a lot of hassle, obviously, but I still need to be root.

I'll search the threads to see what everyone else is doing (apart from returning imei-duplicated devices to manufacturer).

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
If your note 3 is snapdragon, See if this helps:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2522858
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] agustincordoba:
Thanks. Will do. Looks good to me. :)

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rippley05:
I'm not ready to call it Shady, but the longer it takes to come out with a version that removes the stuff in question...the more I feel like they are just trying to disguise it rather than remove it. I'm glad I held off.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
I thought they already updated it?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] agustincordoba:
I'd rather expect to see an official announcement, maybe in this thread even, by mods, to the effect that the new version is around and has been or is being checked. Or is the ban on posting the links on XDA permanent?

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
I think xda would rather cover their asses than post something in the long run lol
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] LuckyColdJohnson:
Yes Kingo was updated and there is another update on the way. We can also use this root method on the new firmware.

TO each is own
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
So would you let a convicted murderer back in to your house after she promises to not bring her knife this time?

Gullible Much?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] agustincordoba:
Surely what has happened here cannot be equal to a murder! And I find it interesting that the murderer has been cast as a female...

In any case, to my understanding it has not been shown that there was, on the part of Kingo, any ignoble intention to harvest IMEI and serial numbers. It seems rather that a vulnerability was put to good use in order to root the devices.

Has there been any announcement by Kingo?

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Not just IMEI was collected. There are a bunch of apk installed after root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rippley05:
XDA already commented on it in one of the kingroot threads. A mod explained it, said there was a new version of the root software coming that would be called 2.0. That's apparently the version that will eliminate the shady findings. What else will they add tho? Why is it taking so long to remove something that doesn't need to be there in order to root the phone?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
fixed it for you.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bfleischman:
can you provide a list of the APK's you are finding installed after the root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Try google
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
There's a thread somwhere I'm the xperia z1 thread I believe. One of them is mtkcamera I saw it pop up In the Google verify thingy when i re rooted after the ota. I don't know if it actually installed because I can't find it even with Titanium Backup nor can I find whatever the other apk was. Others say they can and they just delete it. For all we know these apks could somehow in some crazy way be part of this exploit but i doubt it. I honestly think if this was such a big deal and everyone is so concerned about each other on here that SOMEONE would have picked the process apart by now to figure out what is going on.

Edit: just found out that the mtkcamera apk actually IS part of the exploit.

Edit 2: the other is diaggetroot. Also part of the exploit.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mrkhigh:
Why do you assume the murderer to be female? Women troubles my friend?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Of course that would be the obvious claim from the developers. But has the code been confirmed by independent sources to do NOTHING ELSE?

Why do you assume women can only be in the kitchen?

Gender equality my friend.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Diaggetroot has been around for a year. It was part of the exploit for the HTC j butterfly.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
So if we delete those files, the root function may not work?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
It will work. They are just what is needed to get rrot in the first place.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
Can't find those files on my phone (i'm using root explorer search).
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Exactly. I'm under the impression they are removed after rthe exploit has taken place. Some people still have them some don't. I think its a matter of the one click not doing its job 100% and not removing them occasionally. Check with Titanium backup but they are probably not on your phone any longer.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
Does that mean i'm safe with malware? Hopefully :)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
Unless if your are ok that the root method grabs your imei and serial number and send it to China
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
The problem was mostly that they saved your phones Imei and didn't disclose that nor disclose the exploit or source for the exploit. That made everyone worry. I can't say whether you or I are safe as I have no clue. I'm not too worried myself. It's all up to you to decide if your comfortable knowing that there always a potential issue waiting to pop up.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] blackj30:
Well, i'm done already. Can't go back now. Let's see what happens next then.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Exactly. Nobody has died from it yet so who cares lol
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] theorioles33:
Hahahaha! Right!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] manny18pr:
In my case with the note 3 the only need of root I have is backing up apps with titanium and adaway
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pham818:
Kingo responded to this

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...739.1073741828.564687793603624&type=1&theater
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rippley05:
So nobody has found anything running since using kingo? My phone will not sleep at all since rooting with it. Died today less than 12 hours with only 50 minutes screen on time. It's terrible

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
Use Wake lock detector to check what is keeping your phone awake