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[Xperia SP General] prongsky:
Love my Xperia SP. Sony really made a great phone. And iirc, the great thing about android is that even after a device reaches its EoL, unnofficial support still continues from the community.
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
https://twitter.com/MCsSpawn/status/509980384260804608
[Xperia SP General] TsunaH:
I don't understand ppl who is deceived because Xsp doesn't get KK

4.3 is pretty stable since .205 update

If you want KK there is custom ROM
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
haha, good one :D:good:
[Xperia SP General] ireaper4592:
hopefully people stop whining about silly things now and someone close's this thread
[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
Here is why

http://web.archive.org/web/20140122...bile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-sp/

I, personaly, don't like being lied to and I'm sure others don't, too.

And because, without further official firmwares, community development becomes harder and fades faster. Additionally, there is absolutetly no hardware-related reason for our phone not to get KitKat. This is purely a fiscal decision which forces good hardware to become artificially obsolete and outdated.
[Xperia SP General] yamet:
Exactly. Sony lied to us when selling the phone. We were supposed to get KitKat in other case it's called false advertising. When someone is selling you a car and promisses it's working and than it appears to be broken you can sue them. Why won't we?

What they did was hoax, fraud, call it whatever but they did it just to sell phone and many people bought it because they were reassured it will receie KiKat. False advertising is delinquency and they are aware of that.

Watch their steps:

1) changed KitKat update status from certain to under investigation - not to make people angry, to make them get used to the idea of not receiving KitKat otherwise people would start demanding what they have right to

2) slow updates, to stretch in time

3) finally give some minor still buggy updates for 4.3

And I'm sure there are Sony people around in XDA to do everything not to let us demand KitKat and ensure 4.3 is enough.
[Xperia SP General] doctor_droid:
This behavior is nothing new from sony...its good i bought a nexus rather than a z1....

I still remember sony denied xperia u jb update for a lame reason...it lost my trust then and i dont trust twice...
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
Have fun with your nexus while I'm stuck with sp for about 8-10 months more [emoji17]
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
You should have gotten the Z1! Darn, it got Android 4.4.4 long long ago. Lolol
[Xperia SP General] doctor_droid:
Z1 series has self cracking screen curse...:p i cant risk that ..

Good to see u after long time lee480...;)

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@ Umair42 ..bro..sp is good...adreno 320...krait processor. Ideal screen size...;) and to be frank and i dont like whitish icons on kitkat (dun knw how will i withstand L )
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
I have a white SP,and it matches with the white UI of L themes better,but i like the black variant more. :(

I didnt have a choice when buying my SP,when it comes to colors,but a white phone,and the Android L CM11 PA theme equals FABOLOUS!
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
[MENTION=4923920]doctor_droid[/MENTION]

Yeah this phone is beast when it comes to hardware but software is just not that great especially ram management.I have to reboot once a day and sometimes it lags like hell when ram gets too low.

However i will try cm11 to see how it is
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Well, one of the reasons I bought this phone over others is the kk update, but I don't care anyway, cuz they would have gave us a half broken kk. They didn't even fix the bugs on 4.3 update. I'm currently on paranoid ROM and it is waaaay faster than stock and the thing that I love of stock is the look, nothing more.
[Xperia SP General] raazaonex:
no 4.4

Official Sony site has removed (under investigation) from the update your phone page. Replacing.it.with "latest and final version 4.3 jelly bean.

What a shame.
[Xperia SP General] ash31t:
My phone was pretty stable before .205, since this update it suffers a lot of freezing, i need to reset it too often...

:(

(I hope it will be better with .210)

I don't care about kitkat, i just want a stable sony firmware.
[Xperia SP General] cyapalmpos:
Guess I'll wipe it, rebuild it, and see how long it lasts. No more waiting for updates.
[Xperia SP General] TechnoSparks:
The support page tells us an official news here.
[Xperia SP General] Bruno_Puzoni:
That's it. No stock KitKat for our SP :crying:

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-sp/
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
Why u so old guys? xD
[Xperia SP General] TechnoSparks:
Sorry but i dont get the joke....?
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
I'm not expecting much, I'm just curious... I'm thinking like you. :)
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Maybe they won't even give us 4.3 and will just say this phone is discontinued i'm expecting something like that from sony...

EDIT: yay 700th post lol
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
Yeah, you're right. But you can install any ROM for LB anyway.
[Xperia SP General] Ungewiss:
They are in the middle of an upgrade marathon, let them breathe ;)
[Xperia SP General] qamu74:
My chat UK Support:

"Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...

You have now been connected to an agent.

Ben: Hi Laszlo, thank you for contacting Sony Xperia UK Chat Support. My name is Ben, please could I take your full name and email address?

László Gábor Harkány: László Gábor Harkány

László Gábor Harkány: [MENTION=5499064]gmail.com[/MENTION]

Ben: Thank you for providing me with this information, Please could you confirm which model of phone you have and which network it is on?

László Gábor Harkány: My phone Xperia SP

László Gábor Harkány: Independent

László Gábor Harkány: When you update the Xperia SP

Ben: The 4.3 update is due to roll out very soon, you will get a notification when you can update it ]

László Gábor Harkány: Today is update?

László Gábor Harkány: Or January?

Ben: It should be either today or very early in January

László Gábor Harkány: OK

László Gábor Harkány: THX

Ben: Thank you for using the Sony Xperia UK Chat support, goodbye.

László Gábor Harkány: Happy New Year!

Ben: You too!
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
You cannot.

Bootloader unlock not allowed SP cannot install CM based roms.

And as I said, all custom stock rom are 4.1.2 with minor differences.
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
these agents of sony are so lazy i just spotted this but when you ask them this question they will just copy this from their website

source: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/software/phones/xperia-sp/

that ain't no support!

EDIT: the only agents that actually support you are Ben and some other guy they actually give you usefull information!
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
Believe the Sony is like believing in a drunken friend. It is more than certain that it is a lie.

Who had a Xperia X8/X10 at the time when it was released (Android 1.6) know how time consuming was the update to Android 2.1.

Seek their chairs, because the "Xperia Update Bus" will take a long eternity to come.

EDIT->

http://www.sonymobile.com/br/software/phones/xperia-sp/

Next Version: Android 4.3

2013-12.

The only thing that give me a little hope it to be released today.
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Can a moderator close this thread? It seems just a group of kiddies posting a lot of ****.

If Sony had release it yesterday or today with bugs, everybody would cry: "F*** Sony, there are bugs, bad company, let's burn their house down, I won't invite them to my birthday..." etc. Now Sony need another day or week (PERHAPS to resolve some bugs - nobody knows and will ever know) and everybody grumble: "F*** Sony, they're a late, bad company, let's burn their house down, I won't invite them to my birthday, I'll sell my phone...". Don't you recognize how dumb those statements are? Don't you have other things to do than sitting in front of the phone pressing the reload button in the Update Center? Grow up! There are people on this world who need something to eat...
[Xperia SP General] Ungewiss:
And why exactly are you commenting this?

I don't care if the update arrives today or next week, a little statement from Sony would be nice nevertheless.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Why all the moaning... The update will be here when it's here. Lots of phones released after the sp from other manufacturers will never see this update. After all the moaning then people will update as soon as its available them we will get the "why has nobody discovered root yet... They don't care about us... I'm going on a big screaming tantrum until somebody does what I want when I want". Then we have to go through it all again with 4.4....
[Xperia SP General] ImAnurag:
+1
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
If people want to sell their phones ok it's their choice get rid of it and go buy a phone you like and ok these are rather stupid statements but if sony is resolving some critical bugs the least they could do is tell us on the blog or change the expected date to 2014-.. instead of keeping it at 2013-12 because that date makes us post such statements and dislike sony!
[Xperia SP General] noob_user_:
This is a forum Daniel. People are complaining because they feel cheated and rightly so. There's no need to close this thread. Happy new year anyway guys....
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
Daniel D., I'm not complaining and I'm not a kid. We're discussing, this is a forum and only one thread, cmon. Don't be a kid :p
[Xperia SP General] Androidkeeda:
I m from India and time is 08:30pm still not got any update... Even my friend has xperia z and he didnt got any update or notifications of that.. Sony is so laggy even LG G2 got 4.4 UPDATE today and sony's z1 just got 4.3... Sony is just a name... And this 4.3 update decide where will my xperia sp stay... In my hand or on olx :@
[Xperia SP General] Rubecula:
I don't mind waiting a while longer, but Sony could at least post a message on facebook, twitter, blog, whatever... I have really good experiences with Sony, especially their service! This just is a little unfortunate.

Actually their slogan (make.believe) is quite good, because they made us believe the update was coming this month. However I think the people responsible are now probably partying, so I'll wait a while longer.
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
First thing to do before buying a smartphone: Search. Compare to other smartphones, see the advantage of each to buy one you will NOT regret it. If you're not happy with the Xperia SP because their updates are time consuming, so buy the competitor: Google Nexus 4. Simple Android with updates on time.

Why I bought the Xperia SP? Because I love the led notifications, like much of his design, and he being a dual-core smartphone is better than the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 (Quad-core phones) in terms of performance, it's amazing.

Here in Brazil, I paid $ 503.84 on my Xperia SP. The Nexus 4 cost $ 377.88 and Galaxy S3 costs $ 587.82. (Values ​​already calculated in dollars)

I made a good deal buying the Xperia SP.
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
A little unfortunate? You don't know Sony man. Sony will always be one step behind in the Android market. They keep doing the same mistakes... since the beginning.
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
I think that all sony employees are now with their famillies to celebrate 2014 and they have the right to do so! If that's the case we will probably get it early in january
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
You are late in the party [emoji1]
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Nothing this thread's name should change to -no kitkat for xperia sp confirmed-
[Xperia SP General] tomzzi:
I am using Sony phones for 10-15 years... Xperia SP is my current phone from Sony and also LAST phone from this company.

No kitkat (but in time i bought phone they "promised" future version kitkat) and they even did not fix all bugs with latest update.

Phone sometimes "hangs" while charging and i cant turn on screen. I need to do hard reset.

And few more bugs... Bad ram management and so on.

My last phone from this company and i will absolutely not recommend any Sony phone to people i know.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
I guess they will release KK as they promised.
[Xperia SP General] Hamidreza2010:
No.they wont do this at all

Be sure
[Xperia SP General] TheHunk_2:
i used this phone for 2 months after i knew that sony has put the phone under investigation about KK ,i've sold it and got xperia z1.

i'm on 4.4.4 KK now its not that awesome guys really forget KK, and yeah Xperia sp is a montser at hardware and sony knows that so he dose that with the software thing so that you do the same as i did geting a flagship device. (UGLY TRUTH):mad:
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
Stop whining. The decision has been made. The promise has been broken. Few won't buy Sony again because of this, some will say so but will buy a Sony again anyway. After a few more months most will probably switch to a newer model, regardless if SP receives KK or not. And KK is available as a custom ROM even for locked BL.
[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
I have 3 old phones: HTC wildfire S Gingerbread 2.3, Samsung Ancora Gingerbread 2.3 and IPhone 4. I guess a few months from now (or maybe weeks), another mid range phone will be added to my archive. Leason? Midrange phones usually gets left behind. So better buy a high end.

But hey! Its not all bad, all 3 are still working just fine. And it reminds me how smart phones evolved :)
[Xperia SP General] niaboc79:
This thread is the most hilarious of XDA!

Damn, I am really wondering what you all are doing here on XDA...
[Xperia SP General] SpaceCaker:
Well they are all waiting for Official unmoddified kitkat stock roms.

And nope they dont want unofficial firmware :p

#lil_bit_sarcasm
[Xperia SP General] MixoMaxoViper:
[MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION]

Will you update your rom for XSP anymore???
[Xperia SP General] feromgar:
Some people here don't like/trust custom rooms. I know because I'm like that.

People should stop whining about updates or other people whining and let this thread die.
[Xperia SP General] ireaper4592:
:good::laugh::highfive:
[Xperia SP General] sanaka:
No unfortunately he don't want...
[Xperia SP General] esrd43:
I've been watching this thread for a while and it is indeed a let down from Sony. People got so optimistic, even me, but getting 4.4 had low chances from my perspective.

The fact that they planned the upgrade to 4.4 but then canceled, and so many people bought the device with that in mind, should at least make Sony apologise in some way but maybe they feel ashamed and hope we move on without making it too official.

I wouldn't go as far as saying I'll never buy Sony phones again,because I like the design and software, but I'll have in mind that even though flagships cost alot of money, they do get software support. Maybe buy flagships like 1 year after they came out so they don't cost as much, like I got my XSP around 35% cheaper in 2014.

I guess I'll stick with official 4.3 since I don't like customs that much. Right now maybe it isn't the best Android experience, but it's more than decent.
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Yeah I completely agree with you.

"The lesson here is that if you buy an entry-to-mid-range handset from Sony, do not expect lengthy support." - Xperia Blog.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
My guess is that only water proof phones from 2013 get kk ?.
[Xperia SP General] Pandemic:
+1

Because [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION]

Can't support his entire life the old Xperia's like S/SP etc, he need to move forward like we all do and not backwards !

Send From MoonWalker Revolution [Beta Version]
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Guys just unlock your BL and then flash cm11. I can't describe how good it has become over the last few days. Smooth as fuk. and more than 400mb free ram
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
who are you, his secretary? talking in his name :D and btw, he already stated about updating ROM to 207. lol
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
It is really funny and lame to see that users, Recognised Contributors and now a Recognised Developer is making fun of this news and rumors thread.

Only because we are complaing due to the fact that Sony is being a - male thing -....

I bet my Xperia SP on it that when Sony promised Android L or perhaps even M to the Z series and eventually comes with EOL (after a lame period of fake investigation) those users are acting, reacting, being mad just like us.

So I strongly advice those idiots to shut up ;)
[Xperia SP General] Treboeth:
Not everyone can upload their bootloader though.

This is my first and probably last Sony device, I bought on the understanding Kk would be on the Spot.

Not that I use stock Roms but the developers need new releases to work with.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Z/ZL/ZR will be eol with 4.4.4 afair. idk about the never Zs tho
[Xperia SP General] ParvSharma:
End of life - xperia sp

Here you go guys!

Its official!

Sony recently declared “end-of-life” status to four devices – the Xperia L, M, SP and C.

:crying:

http://androidcommunity.com/sony-declares-end-of-life-for-a-number-of-xperia-devices-20140912/
[Xperia SP General] miki.cis:
Maybe the last and littlest piece of chance? http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/09/1...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+XperiaBlog+(Xperia+Blog)
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Xperia M is just over a year old so it has to get this update-although why they certified it after stating Eol beats me. Doubt there will be anything for the SP, the L might see an update but the chances are very slim.

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Your a fairly late to see the news, it came out days ago.
[Xperia SP General] alexmolhi:
xperia Z port

Its possible that we can port the firmware of the xperia Z in 4.4.4 to the SP? or its a madness?...:p
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Nope. They will never do it to a flagship series.

Point is: Whether Samsung, HTC or Sony, you want Android upgrades, pls get a flagship. Some kids here already declared that their next phone won't be a Sony. While I don't give a hoot about the lack of maturity declaration, please take note that HTC neither upgrades their Desire series too frequently.

Good luck, kids.
[Xperia SP General] azri269:
I've been waiting 4.4 kitat on xperia sp. Since sony already announced the EOL of xperia sp I flashed CM11 on my xperia sp with locked bootloader.

So far I'm happy with it. Much smoother than the 4.3 .207 rom. + more rams!
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Instead of whining I thank Sony for making this wonderful smartphone. It didn't get kk but there is a perfect cm11 ROM which is the almost perfectly and completely stable.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
I guess nobody tried that. That might just work!:good::highfive:
[Xperia SP General] Gamer R:
For those who have a similar idea like this ^

YES ! , You can port Sony 4.4.4 firmware to Xperia SP, taking CM11 as a base and a kernel which supports CM11 and has a stock like (i.e.. Sony firmware) Ramdisk.

You cannot port Stock 4.4.4 to Stock 4.3.

We already have Sony flavoured CM11 ROMS in our forum.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Dont like the Holo Theme on cm then use this stock SONY theme .

http://xdaforums.com/android/themes/cm11-xperia-kitkat-theme-xperia-t2867462
[Xperia SP General] TechnoSparks:
I like Holo White but my God finally a proper thread to a proper theme. Thanks bro I have been searching like crazy in Google but all I get is the old Xperia theme!
[Xperia SP General] neerajhh73:
Hello Guys,

Disappointed by knowing that final version of Xperia SP is 4.3

Is there any ROM out there which can handle high end games as well as daily uses smoothly?
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
You can find it on xda. It's very good site for roms and mods.

PS :- search please
[Xperia SP General] fritsprive:
Sorry to be a bit off topic, but I believe that is a mandatory thing in this thread :D but so many has been said about CM11 that it is almost perfect etcetera.

So, what doesn´t work with our SP with CM11 installed? I have tried to search but cannot find specific info for our SP to make up my mind and install it or not.
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Currently everything works
[Xperia SP General] leet95:
Well Radio program isnt included by default, but there is a way to get radio on cm11 aswell and ofcourse U don't get sony apps. And battery life isnt as good as on stock rom, but everything else overweighs the battery fact for me. (themes, rom integrated stuff, etc...)
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Battery is better than stock.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Let's make another thread for that. But not here
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
But the experience is like... pirate xD, I don't know how to describe it, but is not good, sometimes took CM and put a sony skin that doesn't fit, giving a half-sony experience and a mutilated CM experience.... others just punt sony appearence giving similar results

There are no good Sony-CM11 ROM right now (and I think never will be, just sony gives sony roms, wich is the point to get a sony phone), and actually CM11 is better if you don't miss good sony apps working at full...
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
have u even tried PA rom?
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
what about second mic?
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
the 2nd mic works on official cm11...:D
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
I was talking just for the sony experience in "Sony UI-like ROMs", Paranoid doesn't have that, but yes I tried and actually is a very good rom except for rear mic (but I know is a pain in the ass that thing xD) or at least last time I saw it
[Xperia SP General] lucasgta95:
If they don't release kit kat in this year, I will shoot a missil on them :mad:
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Then shoot the missile cause KitKat ain't coming
[Xperia SP General] prongsky:
Hows the camera in cm11 for both sp and L?
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
then they wont release KK for sure.. He's giving them some time to fix the mess. :D
[Xperia SP General] tomxii:
Ya wasnt really expecting that XSP wont get KK in the end... it really is a shame, it is a good phone... :mad:
[Xperia SP General] jangid:
how to do backup apps + data ?

hey as we try different try regular .. but what is the best way to backup ( users apps + data ) that can be stored on any rom ..

like i was on "mr steve build 1" i do a nandroid backup of data via twrp .. and i tried to restore that data backup on furrydaus v6 but i got a bootloop

i want to know a way to

- backup user apps + data (it can be cwm .twrp ,or a zip type )

-and that backup can be flashed in recovery

- and work on rom 4.3 and 4.4 too
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Titanium backup. Apps can be backed up into update.zip or TB files to backup with app itself.
[Xperia SP General] jangid:
Then that update.zip will work on any rom?? On Xperia sp jb and kk??

curiosity makes me feel alive ?
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Actually I havent tried personaly this feature, but I guess this suppose to work.
[Xperia SP General] jangid:
What you do for backup apps and data??

curiosity makes me feel alive ?
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Titanium backup, but not the .zip, regular backup,

I guess I will test .zip update feature very soon.

Btw, TB has an option to extract data from nandroid backup.
[Xperia SP General] User013:
[MENTION=4451545]le grande magnetto[/MENTION] i copied image link from your signature i hope it is ok with you?

Is it just me or game performance is much much worse in cm11 than on stock rom? I thinking about going back to stock .205.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
haha, its ok for sure ;)
[Xperia SP General] Bruno_Puzoni:
I use Helium but it doesn't have the option to restore in recovery or anything, is just in the app.

It backups app + data.
[Xperia SP General] lucasgta95:
How is the camera on cm11 guys????

And gaming performance???

Sound is better than stock???

Image and video quality too???