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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lyka:
thank you.

I tried opie II editing default.txt of opie and replacing zimage with zimage from opie II.

It start, but don't recognise my sim and network. It worked just one time, after that, no longer find a network.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Thats normal. It also happends for me. Seem like the modem needs to cool down or something.

I might not be able to make the cab file today, i have to get HTC Magician up running Qtopia too.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lyka:
Don't worry i've learned how to set the right zimage in default.txt for launching with haret...

but a cab may help someone else :)

thanks for your work.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rapax:
Yes, a cab for Opie II would be greatly appreciated. I've been trying to get it running by editing the 'standard' text file in /Boot_Linux/Opie after using the normal Opie cab, but I'm not sure if I did it correctly (hasn't worked yet).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BoSJo:
I never used the cab file.

Have in startup.txt :

set KERNEL zImage

set CMDLINE "rootdelay=1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=64M fbcon=rotate:1"

boot2

I just make a new directory, copy the files :

haret-20070128.exe

startup.txt

And rename the the corresponding zimage-blablabla to only zimage

Then you dont need to edit the startup.txt at all
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rapax:
Yeah, that's the way I've been doing it. Good to know that it's correct.

Can you tell me which ROM you're using?

My Uni always reboots spontaneously during booting Linux, and I suspect it's the ROMs fault.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BoSJo:
He he, I can't even remember which rom i'm using.

WM is so buggy that i dont even care anymore, only use the device for time tracking SW, thats it.

There are so many other things in life than WM you know :-)

I tested a lot of roms, but i think it was one of Jwrightmcps that i ended up with
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
If it does not crash in wince5, then it's some linux kernel bug.

We also need to enhance the power saving capabilities in linux.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] PReDiToR:
Loaded the Image yesterday and was pleasantly surprised at how polished it was. Phone worked (dropped calls properly and made them, audion was OK).

That was before I showed it to my SO. I rebooted before I showed her it and on the second loading it didn't find the network and ended up going to the phone app and hanging (well, for too long for me to wait ...).

The first time it ran it was marvelous. Vibration (which I don't get on WM5) was evident on ring/SMS, the UI was responsive and the only thing I missed was a CLI, which I looked for for a little while.

Is this the UI that is on the Neo1973? I love it!

* I haven't used OPIE since I first tried Linux-On-Uni.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
No i guess you are using Qtopia/OpieII and that is not the same UI as the FIC-phone uses. Actually u are able to use Qtopia also on the FIC-phone, but the original image for a FICphone is Openmoko (we have that running too, but it's slow comapred to Qtopia).

I just curioues, why is everybody mixixng Opie(1) cab and and the OPIEII/Qtopia image. They are diffrents. The Opie(1) image has older kernel zImage and kernel modules..

You are saying that it didnt find your phoen network second time. This is normal i have just made a hack in the phonelibs and it is not stable, so if Qtopia doesnt find your network just wait a few minutes and then restart qtopia form shell

/etc/init.d/O.P.I.E.II start

and it will fnd your network again.

cr2: Yes i will make a *exe file soon :-) .
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
I can create it, you only need to upload it :)

You should also remove the moko splash from qtopia4/opie2 image,

because it will create a lot of confusion...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stefanb:
hi there, installed the opie2 image. thanks for getting the phone working.

however i dont like the ui. opie ui was way better (a real window manager).

i even dont find any terminal icon. how do i get a terminal ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
opie was more PDA-oriented. opie2 is actually Qtopia4 "phone edition".

It is not ported to qt4.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stefanb:
omg, linux without terminal

thanks anyway
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
ssh over USB or wifi :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
The mokosplash follows the distro so i wouldnt remove it. It is an user option to remove it..

The next Qtopiaimage will be with Angstrom bootsplash. But like i said it can slo be removed. But i think we should have it enabled since it looks good, and that's what people care about.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Like cr2 said Qtopia isent suplied with a console application, but it is suplied in the OPIEII source, so you can get it there (have to compile it though).

Or you can use "screen" and swith between diffrents screen.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Added cab files

Beacuses ofall the requests of cab files i have created cab files for the linux images.

But you will still have to create a linux filesystem on your SD card.

So do as follow:

Create a linux filesystem on your second partition on your sd card and extract the image you want to use.

Then:

Install the cab file and boot linux from the application menu in WIN5/6.

http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Congratulations...

I found some extrange things and perhaps someone can help me:

1) I had a AKU 0.5 version of WM6, and install qtopia. Boots ok. Yesterday i upgrade to an AKU 0.7 WM6, and when i try to boot it restarts to WM. I have time to see le boot process and it fails whe try to remount the root filesystem. I im going to make more tests.

2) When i restart to WM, the keyboard nor touchscreen works. I must restart again to get them working. This happens not only with this version, with the other ones i try too.

Thanks.

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Ah, more info, the sd ext3 partition is ok. I can mount it without problem in a sd reader.

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
More info... i just tried with the ramdisk and all works fine... it boots and can mount the sd card without problem.

Any more tests?

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Now comes the last stage: a cab file for those who use only 1 partition on the

SD card.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Where can i get such rom ?

We may think about doing more "hard" reset on linux reboot.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Exactly in this place http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=325466

I try too with the ramimage and get the same error... no keyb nor touchscreen.

I'm reinstalling linux, and will try again. The last tests show that is a random restart because it fails in diferent points. Also i enable log in haret and get no fails, so is a linux problem.

Corvus
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Ok. Just reinstalled and get same problem. I only try with opieII, maybe will try with gpe, but like before the upgrade of WM linux was ok, its almost sure i will get the same problem with GPE.

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rapax:
Yes, try working a bit longer with ramdisk. I could usually just about run through creating two partitions with fdisk, then when I got to formatting them it would restart. This wasn't due to the formatting, but rather due to the time Linux was running.

Another thing you might want to do is try booting with the openmoko splash screen disabled, and then seeing of you can make out any pattern in where exactly it reboots. For me, it seemed pretty random, but maybe someone with more knowledge will notice a pattern.

Btw, I have installed Ivans WM5 ROM now, and booting into Linux works fine, no more reboots.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
I just try with ramdisk but dont get reboot, maybe no enought time using it.

Using OPIEII i use alt+left to see the boot, and im sure the reboots are random... sometimes when mount root partition, sometimes when loading modules...

I will try with other AKU0.7 roms...

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
No, that is not an option. Because it will cause frustration.

You see, with linux on the second partition you can install linux on the universal without a linux computer. With a vfat partition on first partition you are able to setup the linux system on the second partition using the ramdisk image.

With only one partition you will need a linuxcomputer to set up linux.

With a ext3 on the first partition and vfat on the second or third windows will not notify the vfat partition (AFAIK).

So, until we have a working bootloader this will be the only way doing this.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Same problem here... using Ramdisk and reboots in some time...

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
ok, so it's some linux kernel bug.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Cr2, i dont think so that it is some linux kernel bug. Corvus said that he hasent the same problem with WM5. So it's the latest WM6 images wich cause this.

But i thought, shouldnt Haret shut down windows complete?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] PReDiToR:
Woulld it be possible to have the zImage in the download directory as well as the .CAB file please?

Sorry about the mix up earlier, yes, qtopia 4.

I shall research cross-compiling a terminal for this image as I don't always have SSH available when I'm testing. I do a lot of it in the car.

I would have thought that a terminal/console would be the first thing any Linux distribution would have in it though, kinda shocked it is missing.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
If the linux kernel can't cope with some evil made by wince5SE, then i call

it a bug ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Just made another test. I try using haret 0.5.0. Same result. Boots but reboot several seconds later.

I havent time to try another aku07 version, maybe the problem is only with this cooked version. Anyone can try???

Anyway, i dont know how haret works, but i suppose it shutdown wince and boot linux, but cleans the (ram) memory too? I'ts the only thing i can imagine that remains after wince shutdown.

In the other way, whe linux shutdown, why the keyb dont work, is not supposed that rebooting cleans all?

Thanks.

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
This time it's a problem with wince making too many assumptions about the hardware state.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Ok. I reflash my windows version to a WM6, but AKU 0.5 and linux boots again.

Another question...

I have two sims, one supports gsm and umts networks and the other has only umts. Not only data, they use umts network to voice, but when i use the sim 1 linux find network (gsm i suppose), but when i use sim2 (the umts only) it didnt find (no network message). Any clues?

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] spratelboing:
OPIE image with Openmoko dialer?

Hi. Yesterday I flashed the OPIE image to my Universal (HTC). Unfortunately I can't use the application "Wellenreiter" since my built-in wlan card is not supported yet.

But my question is anotherone though. OPIE doesn't include a phone utility. Somewhere I've read about using the Openmoko Dialer wthin OPIE. Is this possible and if yes, how do I have to install it?

For flashing linux I followed this link:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux

Help is appreciated. Thanx inadvance, tom.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corvus:
Dont use OPIE, use OPIE II. Or GPE. Both have phone applications.

Corvus.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
That's correct, you where able to use openmoko-dialer with Opie(1).

Wellenereiter isent woring with universal, and dont think it ever will. There arent much development with Opie(1) now.

To use openkmoko-dialer with Opie you have to install Xqt2 and of course openmoko-dialer. I ran it for a half year ago, but havent tested recently.

To run it you have to start Xqt2 from termnial, then export your display, snd start openmoko-dialer. All this you have to do from Opie-console.

good luck.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] spratelboing:
ok, first thanx for your answers.

now I downloaded GPE x11 and Openmoko, which are staying together for download. Both of them contain a *.tar.bz2 and a *.cab file. How shall I continue? Do I have to install both images to storage card via Ramdisk and afterwards the cab's to my device (like I've installed OPIE)? Or do I have to install the x11 image first and afterwards the Openmoko dialer via the console within the linux OS? Be kind! I'm not that familiar with this kind of stuff, especially not with linux though. ;)

tom
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Threat it like the other images. It's just that x11 and gpe is the same images. The only differ is that GPE is suplied with pim applciactions and some other, X11 is more base X-image with matchbox on top.

The cab file can be used for both of them i think.

If you have installed x11 or GPE first you will not have to reinstall the cab file, it can be used for both images. Actully if all the images has same kernel version you can use it as a common linux booter.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] spratelboing:
sorry, but I think I'm to stupid:

installed the gpe with openmoko dialer. therefore i needed one .tar.bz2 file and one .cab. while booting both images get loaded. but within gpe I can't find the phone app. how to start it? calling my device from another phone also doesn't work.

I hope you understand my problem. what to do?

by the way, gpe seems to be not as advanced as OPIE. Perhaps I will give OPIE in combination with Openmoko a try over again.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] winterdog:
rndis

Hi having a go with the opie ii image looks sweet

but cant find teninal app(i see there is not one as i look through posts)

try to conect over wifi(cant find wifi conf tool)

try to conect over usb can seem to talk Vista x64 in to running inf file

any ideas how to move on from here

cheers davidk
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zolee1988:
Hi!

First of all sorry to my English, I'm Hungarian.

If I use these image from here:http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/OpenMoko/

will I able to use my Universal in a "normal way"?

For example: will I able to phone (not video-phone), use the builtin BlueeTooth and WLAN, take pictures with both of the cameras. Syncronize with Outlook 2007 (in WinXP) and Evolution (in Ubuntu). Over USB and BT?

Tanks for the answers!

edited: Will the screen rotation work? what about a2dp? If that image not the best, which is the recommeded by you

i see the kernel are over 2.6.21, so will I able to use usb-drives with my Universal (is usb host function in)?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Screen rotation works, but as far as I know only manualy by a command.

Making and receiving calls does work, but I guess it is not stable enough for daylie use. But on the other hand ... it is also not stable enough in WM.

I also guess that SMS does not work and also syncronisation is not working. But I am sure, synchronisation is possible with the right software and spending some time with trying. WLAN should work ... but I don't know if bluetooth is working as aspected.

GoXboxLive ... can you give us a overview, what features are working in your images?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Status OpenMoko:

UMTS works with manual setup

Dialer works

Rotation work (hold one of the buttons and a menu will appear)

Sms does not work

Sound works

Camera doesnt work, and there is no cam app for X

Status Qtopia/OPIEII:

UMTS works with manual setup

Dialer works

Rotation only from the startup script, but the layout suck's in 270 degree mode.

SMS works

Sound doesnt work (stupid qtopia)

Camera doesnt work, but we have an application (cr2 where is the driver?)

Wifi is the same, it's unstable on both. U have to set it up manually though.

My first choice for a Image is Qtopia, because it's more stable and a lot faster. If we just had sound and the cam working it would be complete.

BabelO compiled yesterday a console app for QTopia. I havent managed to test it, but as i have been told it's in early alpha mode. You are not able to see your input, but the output will appear, and thats the most important though.

He is also making a IM application. I will include this when BabelO telles me i can. It shouls support MSN/ICQ/GOOGLE/IRC/JABBER AFAIK.

I have also heard that someone is up to making a webbrowser for it, so i guess we will have a great w

envirement when all comes together.

I'll update the hh.org wiki soon.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zolee1988:
Thanks for the answers! I think I have to wait.

It isn't that I think about " Linux on Universal". When my Uni will not my primary phone I will put Linux on it. I'm a big linux fan and I wanted to show to my classmates in the school, linux is everywhere and ready for daily using.

But the status of the project is cheering.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Omone:
I have the same problem. Can't find terminal.

First of all, i really appreciate the hard work that you're doing with these projects.

I've tried these images (consider this as a little review made by an inexperienced Linux user):

OpieII(Qtopia)-image_v2.6.21

OpenMoko-image with kernel version 2.6.21-hh16

Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070406-htcuniversal.rootfs v2.6.20

1) Is the best I've seen for what regards the appereance, but lacks of a terminal

2) The second one has more features, because thanks of a shell i was able to start wi-fi via acx module and bluetooth via hciattack to the device. The dialer works fine.

3) The Third one was the first I flashed (I haven't seen it with the last kernel yet), it was nice in appearence but I wasn't able to start wifi or bluetooth.

I want to bring Java to these device, and my need is a way to execute an application (a JVM for ARM/XScale) that uses libqte.so and libstdc++.so

but the only way to lanuch it is using the RAMDisk's command line. How is this possible?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Omone:
Is it possible that in Openmoko shell, all the binary files that I try to execute I obtain this error?

Syntax error: word unexpected (excpecting ")")

And, if launched directly (with absolute path), why do I get "Illegal instruction" error?

Thanks in advance
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] alex_time:
Errors

Hi, I am tryng to install GPE, but when I start linux (RAMDISK) for creating partitions on memory card it always reboot, like it has a crash, before that I finish the job. It has never happened in the past when I tried to do the same lots months ago. The only difference is that now I have the latest WM6 rom by Beast & Laurentius, but I don't think that this is the problem, isn't it?!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Yes i have heard that the latest wince rom causes linux to crash.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ftoz:
l

hi all, I have crash too with latest jwright wm6. I see some rom with 21MB flash rom. I have idea of booting linux from this flash rom. But i dont know, where is physicaly located on m-system chip. If i repartion this on ext3, i think, that linux can be there. But for booting i must have some link to this partition from bootloader. Can someone know, which file is run first after bootloader? If i know, which file is run first, i can replace it by haret and that uni will be boot without wm6
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] alex_time:
Any possible solution? Do I have to get back to wm5? Could be a broken memory card? There is a way to check it?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Hi, could someone provide me a link to that wm6 rom so we can download it and test it to make linux work also with that rom?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] alex_time:
Yes, of curse http://vidmes.com//Uni/ROMs/Laurentius26/WM6PROBUSSINESSVC_V3.rar
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] kodovoimeji:
Hi. Yesterday I installed the OpenMoko image (kernel version 2.6.21-hh16) to my Universal (HTC).

Could someone explain me how to start wi-fi via acx module. Thank you!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Hi, pleasse search in this thread before you ask question. I have answered this several times now.

Open the shell and:

:$modprobe acx

You have to setup your accesspoint as DHCP and no wep/wpa. You can use wep but to use it google for wep and linux.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
new openmoko snapshot

Hi goxboxlive,

there is a new snapshot of openmoko for angstrom released.

Please .... make us a new one, if you got any time :`)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Omone:
Please could someone tell me wich version of:

gcc

glibc

binutils

linux kernel (should be v2.6.21)

is present inside Linux images?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cerro79:
No Graphical interface Un HTC 9000

Dear,

I never been able to see the x11 desktop or what else on my qtek 9000. I tried Openmoko OPIE ecc but the initial loading graphical interface, it return in console mode.

Whould you please help me?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gquipster:
Perl?

As a Perl developer one of the biggest pulls for me would be if I can:

Write and test Perl applications on the Exec/Universal

VPN into work over WIFI/3G,

SSH to my development server and work there

Anyone know how much of the above I can do?

G
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lyka:
just wondering if when released, android will be ported to universal...this would be nice...

edit: ops... i'm reading right now that HTC Omni has been used for an Android presentation under the name of HTC Dream.

HTC is part of the development of Android, with the Open Handset Alliance. Do you think htc will ever release "spontaneusly" some kind of kernel for his devices?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
No. They will probably like that you buy a new device :)