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[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
The N5 is definitely faster, but not by much, and only noticeably when doing a side by side. Definitely not enough to be a selling point for the N5 over the X. Also, I haven't upgraded my X to 4.4 yet (and don't plan to), but I have read reviews that claim the X is just as fast and in some instances faster than the N5 after being updated. I had the HTC One and the GS4 and the X is definitely faster than both of those. As far as smoothness is concerned, there is no noticeable difference between the X and the N5. When I first got the X I was amazed at how smooth it was, I had never seen Android so fluid before. The N5 doesn't really amaze me any more than the X does in that regard.

As far as the software enhancements are concerned, Motorola really did some magic with the X. They took a dual core and made it out perform faster quad cores, and somehow managed to give it ridiculous battery life in the process. Though I don't use touchless control or assist, active notifications were a game changer for me. My N5 frustrates the crap out of me when I pull it out of my pocket or just pick it up and my notifications don't show up. It may sound like a gimmick to someone who never used it, but active notifications are probably the single greatest feature to be added to android by a hardware manufacturer, ever. Once you have them, it is VERY difficult to lose them.

With your screen preferences the X might be a tough sell, but you never know. I hated amoled displays before getting the X, now they just seem to be the superior technology. I really like how vibrant it is, and seeing as though I spend more time looking at the UI than I do pictures, accuracy is meaningless to me. I want my screen to POP, and the N5 just doesn't do it.
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
Alright, finally got my Moto X unlocked. I have both the N5 and Moto X with me. If anyone would like any comparison shots, benchmarks etc, feel free to ask me.
[Moto X General] robsw:
I agree 100%. I had my N5 for about 3 days before listing it on Amazon and selling it. It was a great phone, but I didn't like the "accurate" colors and the battery life was too low. But, most of all, it was the lack of active notifications. It was too frustrating not to have them. I'll keep my Moto X as my daily driver and use my One if and when I want a big screen.
[Moto X General] athris:
Camera on moto x vs nexus 5 on day time is like inaccurate color vs wash out color image and in the night time n5 is better for sure, however I don't think it is good idea to take picture for both phone in light time anyways. N5 is better but the result is still bad
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Just ordered my Dev Edition GSM Moto X, I remember battery life being terrible for me on 4.2.2 on my old moto x, but im giving it another shot with that sale that happened. I very much so enjoy my nexus 5 and im sure i will miss the wireless charging and 1080p sharpness. Hopefully I can get the 5-6hrs of SOT people are getting in a day that ive seen on the moto x battery thread, where i only see 3.5-4.5ish hours SOT on my N5 (with franco kernel, UV'ed and greenified). I love the LCD for outdoor brightness, but I also love the AMOLED because I use my phone as a nighttime desk clock for when I go to bed so the screens are kind of null for me.
[Moto X General] bricky23:
Psst er um (moto x and htc one have same size screen) just sayin lol :silly:
[Moto X General] radeon962:
Been using my N5 since I picked one up from the initial release but was able to get an X on Monday. Order is still pending though so I have no idea when it will ship.

My screen protectors did ship today so I can look at them and visualize the X until it arrives.

I have no issues with the N5 but am curious to use the X as my phone to do a fair comparison for how I use phones.

One will win...

Note 3 sitting in the background for now as the N5 has been a much better experience. My son will most likely inherit the Note 3 and then it's down to N5 vs X.

Now if only the damn thing would show up.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I had both and I still think the nexus 5 is the better phone. It's display is fantastic on my opinion and the performance is the best on an android phone. I'm actually gonna pick up another moto x this Monday (got my 150$ off coupon) cause I'm excited to customize the phone. Both phones are fantastic though.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
People are saying on android central that they are getting notification of shipment via FedEx delivery manager before getting anything from Motorola. How that works I'm not sure but it's an option to check.

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Personally it's going to Boil down to battery life for me, whichever has the best will probably win. Screen is null to me because LCD has great traits as does samoled.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
I really can't understand how people see differences on these screens.

Every sensate comparison says that the PPI is imperceptible (and it really is above 300). Is it the size? Or the washed colors on N5?
[Moto X General] robstunner:
No, you CAN notice the sharpness it's just not that alarming.
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
The difference is quite noticeable. And its not just the resolution. I dont know how to put it, but the display on the N5 feels more 'high end' and 'premium' than the one on the X. But everything else, X FTW
[Moto X General] robstunner:
That's correct accept for bedside alarm clock mode, the moto x and really any samoled screen beats LCD hands down because of the single pixel thing. Using my nexus 5 as above lights up the room pretty good with the very grayish Blacks. Where the amoled is just a lightly colored time and the rest of the screen off.

TLDR: nexus for outside brightness, moto for inside dimness.
[Moto X General] dokukinoko:
Colors. The Moro X's AMOLED has blazingly saturated colors. The Nexus LCD screens are NOT so much washed out; they are accurate and look close to the colors produced on my EIZO FlexScan PC monitor...

I'll repeat this analogy that someone else posted: the Moto X is the showroom TV you see in the big box stores with vivid settings cranked up high. Colors pop. The Nexus is the more dialed down and realistic looking screen.
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
Nexus is definitely more accurate in regards to color saturation, but it has meh viewing angles. Tilt it towards any corner and it washes out. So both screens have their issues. Overall, the Nexus screen is better, but AMOLED is necessary on the X to keep active display / notifications from using a crap ton of battery, so it's worth it. That is one of the coolest features of the X. It would be nice if Moto gave us several display color presets to choose from like Samsung does with the Galaxy line though.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
Ok, colors we all know the same answer long time ago. The LED x LCD isn't a new fight and these arguments remains the same.

Forget about colors. Its a matter o preference, not "better x worse".

What I really want to know is about the sharpness... because in every review I see no comments about this difference, just comments about the colors, deep black and white.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
It that's the case then the Moto X is what is best for you, it has excellent battery life. But in my opinion the Nexus 5 display is so much better.

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The difference is very noticeable, have you seen both sides by side? PPI imperceptible is not true, there's definitely a difference in sharpness between both panels and I think It's obvious.
[Moto X General] SupaSwag:
I don't get why people compare 1080p to 720p screens side by side. You're bound to notice a difference but in real life you're not going to be using both at the same time. I came from the LG G2's gorgeous display and don't miss it one bit. Would I love to have a 1080p screen on this device? Sure, but the 720p is already pretty sharp given its high ppi and battery friendly.

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
You're right but the topic is whether there's a difference between 720 p and 1080p. There is.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I disagree completely. I feel the horrible black levels and awkward viewing angles of the N5's screen make it seem ridiculously cheap and low end. On the flipside, the Moto X's awesome colors and pitch black make it seem extremely high quality. Though I'm used to it now, I really hate the N5's screen. It's probably the worst screen on any smartphone I've owned in a very long time. Worse even than the GS4 Active's LCD panel which wasn't very good either.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] robstunner:
While I agree the viewing angles certainly degrade the premium feel, calling it such a bad screen is a stretch. Colors and PPI are wonderful and brightness is very high.
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
Pretty strong reaction there :laugh:

I think at this point we can conclude that its just a matter of personal preference as far as screen tech is concerned.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I just feel it's obvious that the screen is one of the things LG cheaped out on to keep the cost low. If it had better viewing angles and better black levels, it could be superb. But my two complaints about it are so in your face, that it makes me really dislike it.

Haha well I'm mad at it. The screen hinders what would otherwise be an incredible smartphone experience. But I agree, everyone has their preferences!
[Moto X General] robstunner:
I've never seen an LCD screen with better black levels.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
HTC One X, HTC One, LG G2... I'd even venture to say that the GS4 Active had better black levels.
[Moto X General] 19Interpol:
The G2 probably had the best black levels I've seen on an LCD. My friend has the Nexus 5 and the blacks don't look all that good. Could be some calibration error but that was my observation from using it for a bit.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Your right, but they all still fall way short in comparison to a amoled
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
After 18 months with my Galaxy Nexus, I used my new N5 as my bedside clock last night, and I was shocked this morning to wake up (before sunrise) and see only a dim, solid white screen - I couldn't read the time at all. I was concerned that something had happened to the phone, but it was just the viewing angle that made it look that way. Getting a more on-axis view made it all okay.

I've had my N5 for less than 48 hours. Like many, I was torn between the N5 and Moto X, and the Cyber Monday fiasco with Motorola pushed me to the N5. But by noon (ET) I was able to order my Dev Ed X, and it will arrive later today. I know the only way I'll be able to decide between the two (if I can) will be with first hand experience.

Considering the outdoor visibility issues I had with my Galaxy Nexus (and that it was my first AMOLED display), I was concerned about the AMOLED display on the X. Many hours of reading later, I know that Super AMOLED is intended to address this issue. While a few reviews and specs posted on 3rd party sites indicate that the X has a Super AMOLED screen, most say that it's AMOLED. Even Motorola's site says that it's AMOLED. Is AMOLED being used as a collective or generic term to describe the display type, or is it truly an AMOLED (like the Galaxt Nexus) display?

I've been looking forward to comparing them side-by-side outdoors, but it's been mostly overcast here this week, so I'm hoping the weather clears up soon, though it's not expected to.

Thanks to all who posted in this thread. I don't know that you've made my decision any easier, but I at least feel like I'm going into the comparison with a more informed perspective.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
There will be no comparison, N5 outdoors will destroy the Moto X in outdoor visibility. The only screen out there right now (that ive personally used) thats AMOLED and great outdoors is the Note 3.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
This is not what the review tell us... :o
[Moto X General] lstrike:
Nokia 808 outdoor visibility is amoled with their clear black tech. It literally smashes every phone outdoor visibility I've had. Not that many would carry it unless you really need the absolute best camera on a phone ever created and could live with Symbian...err and low resolution display, terrible browser lack of apps and support... Anyhow outdoor visibility on an AMOLED! Lol...
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Ah yes Nokia I forgot about those. Your right, but that is, no one else

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What kind of screen on time peer day do you get with moto x on 4.4?
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I had sold my moto x 2 days before the roll out of kitkat so i cant say.

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Whats up man, did you order a custom moto x? If yes which flavor?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Sup bud! Not yet... I really want to pull the trigger on a black front, white back, blue accent one, but I need to watch my spending at the moment. I'm about to either drop $1500 on snow tires for my challenger or a little more for a beater pickup truck for the winter. Still gonna try and get a discount code on Monday though. If I get one, odds are I'll be ordering the phone. My spending habits are horrible. You still rocking the N5? I just ordered the TYLT VU Qi charging stand, should be here any day now. Have you seen that thing yet? I've never been so excited for a charger before lol.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Nice man, my guess is if you get a code youll definitely get the phone ;) . I sold the Nexus 5, i absolutely love the phone a lot but i got excited about getting a moto x moto maker discounted ( the first one that i had was all white and i really wanted a custom one so im fulfilling that unfinished business). Got a black front, crimson back with yellow accents. VEry excited to see that!

I havent seen that particular QI charger, i did buy a Nokia DT-900 but that thing sucked so bad that i pretty much never used it. Im gonna check out the one you're talking about. I think QI chargers should have magnets built in them like the official nexus QI charger.

Edit: Damn that QI Charger is NICE! It makes a lot of sense too cause the phone can rest up and you can use it easy.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, I've warmed up to the Nexus a lot (still prefer the X though). Been using the X at work, N5 at home. Still don't like the screen but I'm used to it now, but I love the phone's speed and screen size. Plus, I just set up a quicksettings toggle that instantly hides the navbar and gives me pie controls so I can game in full screen and that makes a world of a difference. I was looking for a decent Qi charger and when I stumbled upon that I HAD to have it. Can't wait to get it.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I guess the nexus display is really a matter of taste. Many dislike yet many like it. But the speed of that thing is embraced by everyone, really a smooth and fast phone. Im excited to enjoy the battery of the X again as well as the active display and the touchless controls ( i had started using it for sports result, weather and other stuff and its really cool). Looking forward to the next galaxy and HTC device as well as the X2 and G3 later nexzt year :highfive:
[Moto X General] gliz5714:
Let me know how it goes. I got the MotoX on contract yesterday, but I am not sold on it yet... I am going to go through the weekend and part of next week to see how the batter shakes out. It feels super solid, but not sure if I can deny the raw power of the N5...

When you have one, you want the other...
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, the display is definitely a polarizing topic. I can see how some people may like it, but coming from an HTC One X and an HTC One, it is VERY hard to call the N5's display anything but mediocre. There are FAR better LCD's out there. But, my eyes do adjust to it after a while and as long as I use a brighter colored wallpaper (I generally like dark ones), its shortcomings aren't that noticeable. And giving credit where it's due, when gaming or browsing the web the screen does look pretty nice. I just REALLY like the deep black and saturated colors of the Moto X's screen, so it's like one extreme to the other.

As far as upcoming phones are concerned, unless Samsung pulls some magic and ditches their cheap plastic builds, and HTC goes with a bigger screen or smaller footprint for the One's successor, the Moto X2 is the only phone I am interested in. The X is my first Motorola smartphone, and it made me a Moto customer for life.
[Moto X General] MaKTaiL:
THIS!
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I am blessed to have had Motorola phones in the past. The X is the phone I've been waiting for and yet more than I could have dreamed of. I can't wait to be back home

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
Cannot wait to see what Motorola does for the X2. I hope they dont take the "lets make phones for sasquatches" route. Thinner, lighter and wireless charging please!
[Moto X General] gliz5714:
So I am itching for a bit larger of a screen than what is on my X... Would you all suggest just getting the Nexus 7 (2013) for at home usage? I almost want to flip my X for the Nexus 5, but with all the hassle of switching phones (I am locked into a carrier), I am not sure it will be worth it.

I have been basically reading this thread seeing how everyone loves the device...
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
What do you plan to do on your tablet? If its gaming and reading, I would say the iPad Mini Retina. If its watching movies, the Nexus 2013
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
After getting my X yesterday and updating to Android 4.4, I was disturbed to find that Google Cloud Print was missing from the Print settings on the device. In preparing for my comparison between the Nexus 5 and Moto X, my thinking was that the X would have all the stock features of the Nexus, except for GEL, which has been reported sufficiently. But now I'm faced with this. What other stock Kit Kat features is Moto X missing?
[Moto X General] gliz5714:
Browsing the web (reddit, espn, etc), some movies/music, some gaming (nothing intensive at this point), and soon a chromecast remote device. Trying to keep the price point low, so that's why I am somewhat favoring the Nexus. the Mini is a nice tablet, just don't want to pay 300+ for something that I only use every once in awhile.
[Moto X General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Hey bro, you are moving to the Moto X now? I'm still on my Note 3 but I got a $150 code the other day and am considering at least trying a Moto X. What do you think?

Which carrier are you on?
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
You can install it from the Play Store. The important thing is that it has the printing framework and print services list in Settings.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Hey whats up buddy, Yes i am. I love the nexus 5 but im someone who constantly switches phones, i cant help it :silly:

I got a $ 150 code as well and ordered an AT&T custom moto x yesterday morning, they are assembling it now. I did have a moto x before, all white but i always wanted a custom one thats why im getting this one.

I think you would like it. Aside from the display and camera, its a fantastic phone. Some like the display but coming from a 1080P panel it definitely is a step down in my opinion ( and youre coming from arguably the best Amoled display ever). Otherwise performance is top notch, battery life is great, speaker is great, active notification is really cool, gesture to launch the camera is intuitive, touchless control is awesome and the fact that you can customize the phone is the icing on the cake. Go for it!
[Moto X General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Nice man! Yeah I might grab one and either make it my daily driver or just use it as a backup phone. Or just sell it if I really don't want it.

Which carrier are you on? I'm on at&t but heard theirs is locked down?
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Im also on AT&T, yeah theirs has a locked bootloader but some have root. In all honesty this phone does not need a custom rom, it already is perfect out of the box. Just the display for me is kinda of a let down. But id love root for TB and other stuff like Xposed framework .
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
I can install Google Cloud Print from the Play Store, but that's not the same as having it baked in like it is on the Nexus 5 - it still doesn't appear under Printing in Settings.

Additionally, Search Nearby Places in the dialer - a feature that appears on the Nexus 5 - is missing on the Moto X.

I feel like the Moto X OTA update is something less than Kit Kat, and I'm wondering what else is missing that I haven't noticed yet, or may never notice if it has no visible component.

Is anyone else bothered by the absence of these features in what's claimed to be Kit Kat?
[Moto X General] ReggieTee:
I have a code and am considering also. I have an S4. I went to play with the Moto X today and honestly, the screen isn't too different from my 1080p S4. Probably because Samsung uses an HD amoled display also. I have to go look at again. My biggest issue right now is the size compared to my 5-inch S4. The Moto X looks like a bigger iPhone. It feels great in the hand considering I don't have large hands but I've gotten used to the 5-inch phone. I also don't like that KitKat's immersive mode is not all over. I went to a website on the Moto X and my S4 and hate how the onscreen keys still take up a bit of the screen. It made it look so small compared to my S4. I'm considering the N5 and the Moto X. Everything else about the Moto X I like, except for the fact that i'm on Sprint and KitKat hasn't rolled out to it yet.
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
FYI - for anyone interested in getting Google Cloud Print in the printing services section of settings, I extracted the APK from the Nexus 5 I'm looking at. You can download it here. It can be installed like any other app, no root required. Strangely enough, this newer version doesn't support duplex printing, while the older version (available in the Play Store) does.
[Moto X General] jimmiet:
This worked like a charm and makes the new Gmail update SO much better, thank you!
[Moto X General] alpha-niner64:
"Super AMOLED" is Samsung's AMOLED screen, copyrighted. You'd be right about how the word AMOLED is throw around as a general term. Samsung supplies the screens for the Moto X so the Moto X's screen is already receiving Samsung's take on the AMOLED tech based on the Note 2. Why Motorola doesn't make that a selling point: who knows.
[Moto X General] aimfire72:
Just got my Moto X a few days ago and overall, prefer the Nexus 5. Active Notifications are cool, but otherwise, the phone feels like a compromise. I find the N5 is easier to use with one hand because of the thinness of it, despite being a larger phone. Can definitely type much faster on the N5 too. I'm also one of those that likes the screen on the N5 better too.

I like haptic feedback, but the motor on the Moto X just feels "disgusting" to me, lol.

I think I'm gonna send back the Moto. Just can't see myself reaching for the Moto over the N5 when they're both on the table.
[Moto X General] emerica243:
I went all out and got the Nexus 5 as well. Ive had over 20 different phones, 3 of them being nexus devices. And ill honestly say the X is the first one ive felt deeply in love with. I really dont need the nexus 5 im just used to grabbing flag ship devices.

Whats the swaying me back and forth between both devices below.

Moto X

Active Notifications

Speaker loudness and quality

Display quality and contrast

Feel and build quality if phone

Nexus 5

Power and speed

Larger screen

Fully unlocked in everyway

Honestly if KitKat for the X comes out and it fixes the wifi icon spacing and gets rid of the ATT carrier text i may send it back.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
The GSM Dev has none of those issues :beer:

MOTO X GSM DEV