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[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Possibility for kitkat?

I was reading on this site about the kitkat on xperia z because my friend has this phone, he has just upgraded to 4.3 and he's thinking of upgrading to kitkat: http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/29/xperia-z-owners-how-are-you-finding-kitkat/

If you search a little bit on the comments, you'll see that the kitkat roll for the z and zl started from specific countries. For example, users in India, Germany, Malaysia and some other countries didn't have the update from the very first moment of the roll-out, whereas America, Vietnam for a kick-off did. So, according to the e-mail Th3B1ff reccieved, our phone might get official 4.4 after all, but for a start, it might be available for specific countries, like in the case of the xperia z. Just think about it.....
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Lol, you release it in one country

We flash the ftf

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Btw, the .207 update isn't available for everyone, I heard that only carrier xsp got it
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
lol, it was always like that..every release it's a phase roll-out, meaning that some countries will get the update first and then as time pass more countries will get the update too.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Yeah, but as you said, you can flash the ftf file.
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
It's not coming guys, don't get your hopes too high :D Sony from Africa are big trolls,if u ask them about L they'll tell you it's coming to sp huehuehue xD
[Xperia SP General] Th3B1ff:
I have asked them again and clarified that it's the Xperia SP. Still not sure if it's true.......we'll just have to wait and see.

Here's a screen of the e-mail I received today.
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
I sent also a email their answer :"we don't have info ecc."

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I swear if aint true then this is the biggest troll ever.....
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I hope they will make some announcement regarding xperia sp when they release KK for M2.
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
Same here. Some of my thoughts:

KitKat for T2 Ultra and T2 Ultra Dual certified at 10 July. 16 July - software released.

KitKat for E1 Dual certified at 25 July, for E1 at 28 July. 8 August - software released.

KitKat for M2 and M2 Dual certified at 8 August. So, approximate release date is... 15 or 18 August? With little mathematics - 17 August.
[Xperia SP General] Bruno_Puzoni:
Yes, August 18-20. At least we hope so :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
We all hope this ?

Finger crossed ✌

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] raditzava:
We waited miracle from Sony !!! :)
[Xperia SP General] nrg_52:
I want to believe in miracle too, but i know it's a consumer society.:) By the way i'm happy with my sp after my xsola;)
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
Funny how people are still waiting for the release of KK by Sony when there have been custom KK roms around for months now. For both locked and unlocked bootloader.

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm just being realistic.

Don't get your hopes up too high. The SP is an "old" mid-range device.

Sony is no longer interested in updating this phone. It's simple business logic...
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Read previous posts.... They confirmed kitkat for sp by mail but we don't know if it's true......
[Xperia SP General] Th3B1ff:
I know but...

Yes it's true that there are many stable KK ROMs floating about on this site. BUT, many still have non-working functions such as:

Rear mic disabled until proper fix is found

No stamina mode and insane battery drain

Stock camera is unattractive

Included features which have to be disable to avoid FC and bootloop

Stock Android appearance (I much prefer Sony's take on Android)

Yes, some of you will say "But performance is better on these ROMs!", I don't care.

IMO the issues with these ROMs will only be resolved when Sony informs us about KK for SP.

Just my 2c.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
1. Rear mic was fixed not a long time ago, in a form of test build, but the definitive fix was found.

2. Yes, there is no stamina mode, but the battery drain is only present when using interactive governor, because that governor is perfomance-oriented.

3. For example, I hate Sony camera and all its "all teh features that you won't ever use, but you get it because we are Sony!". Google Camera has basic functionality, and takes better shots(colors, sharpness, etc.) than crappy Sony one.

4. What features? Everything is fully working on PAC, PA, CM, etc. No need to disable anything to have a fully working, stable ROM.

5. Okay, it's your opinion, some people love the look of AOSP, and some people love the look of Sony UI.

EDIT: Forget about point 1., it's still not fixed.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
On the Xperia SPs page,it is said that KK is under investigation.

And we have 2 e-mails which confirm the SP getting KK this year.

Odds are in favour of the KK update,you have no standing ground,and no real material to be so "realistic"

And on all SONY devices,there are "realistic ones",saying how there is no point of updating a good phone,which has a lot of potential,even tho there is a bigger possibility of suceeding than "realistic" failing.

Stop being "realistic",try hoping for something.If we dont get KK(I highly doubt that),there still are the devs who will do anything they can to give us as much as they can from sonys 4.4.
[Xperia SP General] Th3B1ff:
Yeah I know many bugs were fixed recently and that we all have our own preferences when it comes to the camera and appearance. The intention wasn't to slag anyone off. The point I was simply trying to make was that people are free to choose whether or not they want to use a ROM. Some people prefer only using official firmware and others, like myself, have tried many many ROMs.

:good:
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Nope still nothing..
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
I hope that picture wasn't another lie...
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
What picture?
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
This one was posted on the xperia blog: http://postimg.org/image/j6lk36wxl/
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
In this screenshot, that guy was suddenly talking about the Xperia L - it is not clear what update was meant. And even if it is the Xperia SP, the rep simply may be wrong. There is no update yet.

Neither Twitter nor Google search has any hit when you search for the expected firmware version number.
[Xperia SP General] xHundek:
Here is the First part of conversation postimg.org/image/6ki6plqe5/
[Xperia SP General] saif1012:
I guess it's for xperia l

Don't say thanks, hit thanks! :)
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
What are you expecting from Sony? Don't expect much. With Xperia X10i was worse.
[Xperia SP General] xHundek:
I just want good smartphone. Is it too much?

Sent from my C5303
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
install cm10.1 and be happy
[Xperia SP General] kingofmb:
Its Xperia SP ;)

postimg org/ image / fl8txhqb1
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
I have locked bootloader :(
[Xperia SP General] e1i@zzz:
News has been neglected to be true

Source:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-SP/Xperia-SP-update-availability/td-p/471259/page/5
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
so, install existenz and be happy.
[Xperia SP General] pm2lp:
Worse than this is impossible, 8 months without a single major update, with 3 newer Android versions available. The x10 was updated from Donut to gingerbread. Plus, we have a firmware bugged as hell and sony keeps ignoring us.

This is what $ony is doing:
[Xperia SP General] permanent27:
this is der last conversation from xperia blog site.
[Xperia SP General] Wytosandroid:
https://twitter.com/prakharpandit79/status/417950506238365696

Look here guysss :DD
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
It would be nice if we had some proof :)
[Xperia SP General] Wytosandroid:
I'll try to contact him ;D
[Xperia SP General] e1i@zzz:
Have my doubts.

usually india is one of the latest country recieving the update

also, the post says "5 hours ago" while 10 min ago all of the sony supporter said, no date has been specified yet.

on top of that, vodafone also got a delay compaired to the unbranded...

makes me doubting that post
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
It's there for half a year, so means absolutely nothing, they abandoned the SP already.

2 e-mails from Sony Africa. Great proof. We can get the real answer from main Sony department.

The realistic ones are saying the truth. And there is bigger possibility of failing, than succeeding in getting the update.

It's not like the phone doesn't deserve to get the update, but look at the whole situation from Sony perspective. Is upgrading an old phone to KK is worth it? The under investigation tag means that Sony is checking if they will make money when they update SP.

No, some people won't be some sort of crazy dreamers that will be disappointed after Sony announces, that there won't be any update for SP. Better face it right here, right now rather than dream and be even more disappointed with Sony.
[Xperia SP General] Th3B1ff:
Still gonna hope for KK update.
[Xperia SP General] SpaceCaker:
Anyone else got the Walkman Update yesterday? It introduced folders and some bug fixes
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
Yes i got it

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Yes i got it
[Xperia SP General] SpaceCaker:
So we actually cannot say that they didnt update xD :D:p

They updated something
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Why dont we wait untill they release kk for M2 before taking it for granted thet we r nt going to get kk[emoji53]
[Xperia SP General] wedgess:
Wow... that escalated quickly! Enough of the petty argument over a simple post. If you have problems with a post report it, move on and a member of the moderation team will take care of it. People don't want to see your personal differences cluttering a thread. I'd rather not have to return here for the same reasons in future.

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[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Any non branded phones that got the .207 update? It has been a while now and I haven't seen it....

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] ferri555:
I need Kitkat
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
It looks like .207 will stay for T-Mobile (and related?) branded phones... SP support page was no updated with .207 and it's been two weeks (or more?) w/o new markets/areas/customization numbers with .207 available...

Also, I have to say, Sony updates are rolling too slow, I have a XE1, and there's no new markets with 4.4 update since the day was released (last friday) O_o

Up post, go to kill urself (?)... now srsly, stop that nonsense post pl0x
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
and my thread also cleaned too..LOL:eek:
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
The new firmware was released for specific carriers. Probably we won't see a generic version of it. As some users started here, it doesn't have any differences from the 12.1.A.1.205 version, so I think you have nothing new to see there.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Now, all flagship 2014 have get kitkat...

but still wait for 2013 flagship...;)

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/15/xperia-m2-android-kitkat-update-now-rolling
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
2013 Sony flagships got the update a looong time ago.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Hahaha...Yup, Xperia Z series get this...now our turn...but 40% chances we get that..i think
[Xperia SP General] greek_assassin:
Interesting my Xperia L just got official update sketch 4.2
[Xperia SP General] MixoMaxoViper:
Maybe 50%?
[Xperia SP General] raditzava:
We have been left with xperia M2 now has a roll-out :(
[Xperia SP General] greek_assassin:
Sketch new app this morning
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
this is one worthless app.
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
We should wait until Sony provides an official software blog post, maybe later today or next week. All hope is not yet lost. :)
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I think it is a funny application haha.. :P
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Yeah, if by funny you mean trying it for the first time, fooling around a bit and never using again.
[Xperia SP General] Bares:
I really don't mind if Sony included it on their upcoming KK for SP by next month.... :p
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
kk for sp? wont happen, sony's too busy updating sketch and walkman..
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
And here comes the bloody tourist to spoil it all..

It would be nice if you can just shut it untill we hear official news? And this is to all of you guys :angel:

We don't need depressing answers or comments in this depressing thread ;)

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Well said........just wait for official news.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Straight to the point mate XD

I agree to that too. Just tell us something informative, you'll be thanked for it too!
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
what do you mean by tourist?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Le Tomb Raider Legend Quote ;)

It was not intended to be mean or offencive ;)

~~ Regards
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
oh god of sarcasm, thank you for everything :D
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
XD
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
I will commit suicide if we don't get 4.4 and Sony will be blamed for it. :'(

Just joking. :D

I reckon if it comes it will come along with the M2 4.4 roll out blog post.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
liar. and btw, its forum, ppl do come here to read
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Guys,

Just a small warning before any moderator comes here and bans all the annoying trollers.

Just stop it :) It is of no use to either mess with this thread, spread lies or fake news. Like I said in my previous post:

Just Shut it untill we have official news!

Good day!

~~ Regards
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
M2 received kitkat.. Maybe The next are us.. Waiting news from sony..

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/08...itkat-rolls-for-xperia-m2-and-xperia-m2-dual/

still no news about SP...really SONY? REALLY....?
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
Wait for a week or so

We waited for months man, we can wait more...
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Ok......now we need a very good developer to port that new kitkat from the m2 to our sps..
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Or just make the latest PAC or pa ROMs to look like stock...
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Theres a few Xperia themes for CM11 theme engine if you want stock look plus you can download most Sony apps from the play store and XDA. But the modded ROMs are not stock so Sony official kitkat would still be very nice to have

a) as a fallback

b) the kernel and blobs would help make the LBL roms better driverwise and may help to make LBL L a (still slim) possibility depending on how much gets changed.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
You can do that. There's a thread with instructions on how to make an a.o.s.p. kitkat rom look like a stock xperia one, with the xperia framework and all such stuff. Here's the link of the annoucement: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/transform-rom-to-xperia/
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Important!

Guys, Sony have posted the official 4.4 roll out for the M2, nothing mentioned about the Xperia SP. Looks like we won't get it. :(

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/08...itkat-rolls-for-xperia-m2-and-xperia-m2-dual/
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Nobody wants it :p
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
speak for yourself
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
It's not the real port, it just gives a Sony look, not the Sony features. Btw, I think that porting Xperia Z 4.4.2 stock ROM is possible - Sony just takes XZ stock firmware and makes minor changes to support XSP, so it won't be super hard.

Everyone wants it.

For example, I completely don't care about Sony updated features(aka unwanted crap and bloatware), I only want new kernel and blobs.
[Xperia SP General] zaryab:
Have patience
[Xperia SP General] juitz88:
Dang! I'm losing hope!

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ SP
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Hm,hmmmm,hmmmmmm.

The s4 mini has more touchwiz crap and bloatware than the SP does with timescape,and yet it has the 4.4 update.I highly doubt that the 0.5 gb of RAM difference is the judgemental rock,as the sp has better gpu,and practically the same processor.Kit-Kat was made to SUPPORT THE WEAKER PHONES,and this phone is everything but weak.My hatred towards SONY,since the Xperia Mini,is starting to return...
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
It's to do with the processor/SoC, like whether qualcomm have provided the support for this processor. RAM and the other hardware isn't an issue here. I hope qualcomm have provided the support but I have doubts.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Still, that requires a developer/developer team that knows what he's doing, because as far as I know, the official kitkat in xperia z has a bunch of problems...
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Moto X has the same SoC, and it was updated to 4.4.4, so I don't have any doubts about this.
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
Hope this is possible. I hope the move to sd card features can be ported to xsp
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
lol guys, always talking about qualcomm drivers and stuff, everyone here is forgetting that xperia sp = moto x, exactly same soc, just moto x has 2gb ram
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Wow, I genuinely didn't know that. That gives Sony no reason not to give us KitKat regarding hardware.
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
Seriously think you that sony won't release kitkat because "hardware"? Lol

They won't release it because no one would buy m2 and we will keep using this phone instead of changing. Obviosuly if sony won't release kk i won't buy another device. I won't play the sony's joke lol

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
History says that most of the phones got 2 major updates, I think even we will get a second major update for kitkat.
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
Ok the sony website has been updated with m2 "last version android 4.4"

The next are us and t tx v owners ✌

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] classicalpunk:
Even if I'd change my phone it surely won't be for a M2 (Newer doesn't mean better, especially in this case)
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Yeah, the hardware thing is just an excuse, they always use it. On a side note they just announced the M2 Aqua, just the M2 waterproofed.

Although the chances of us getting KitKat are slim you never know. ;)
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
Just hoping that they give us kk we have almost 2 months left before 18 month life cycle overs
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
Im still on my opinion.. We will get a buggy and sluggish kk and never will update again.. Its only my opinion..
[Xperia SP General] classicalpunk:
Unless it's so long because they want the last update for sp to be not as funked up as the first 4.3 one
[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
That would be if they are working on kitkat, which is ok, but there is no info about that, nobody confirmed officially that they are working on kitkat for SP or that they have plan for it. I dont think that somebody here would mind if they give it to us later, after that 18 months, especially if it would be a decent update, with no major bugs.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
Now i know what he mean..
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
You pasted your name. After hi.

That's irresponsible.

Or are you a secret agent???
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
nope...:D

because it's my real name, so i edit to my username...:p
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
What do you mean by : "Now i know what he means" ?
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
I already contact with sony developers workers..

i just ask question for xperia sp about Kitkat, so they dont know any plans..i think they know but hide from me to know
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
There are 2 probably things (maybe speculations)

-They didnt do anything and they're waiting 2 months and "18 months blabla"

-They are really working on the update, maybe since june - july but they're not sure if it can work well or not and they prefere to release a stable kk but a bit late

I hope the second lol

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
Why would you think they care about giving us a stable kk? They don't, specially to a mid range from last year which is way better than their new mid range from this year lololol
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
No KitKat for SP, because... It's not waterprof! Buy M2
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
Yes its not waterproof so can not handle kitkat :D hahaaa
[Xperia SP General] afraaa:
I'm not talkimg from my belly . thia phone will get kk but it can't be laggy ! .

If you jelly bean is not smooth make sure kk will be . and if u are already on amooth ui kk have not any chance to being laggy since sony has learn their lesson on smooth ui .

Hey guys i know that pissed off . i know when my g nexus didnt get it . but from specification it will get it . mark my word here . i've been watching schedule updates since 2010

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Looke here h t t p:// w w w.justaboutphones.com/android-4-4-2-update-sony-xperia-sp-t2-ultra-m2-e1/

There is picture of sony'schedule official chart. and sp is in buttom of list

Since m2 and then now e1 gets update . u will see update in month or two :) .

Dont be disappointed , hope is the only thing make us move
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
by author on

16 june, 2014
[Xperia SP General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
I'll bet SP wouldn't get 4.4.2 but it will get 4.4.4 same as The Z, ZL and ZR.. ( just a hope )

Sent from my C6502 using Instagram
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
but i bet sony will make suprise soon :D
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Meh,I think i will sell the SP to my friend and buy the m2...People here make me sick with their "realism" .
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Well, people, if Sony releases kk would you still be happy about it? Will you jump to the sky and scream: "Thank you Sony, you updated our phone a year after OS release, you are so good and fast when it comes to updates, thank you very much for buggy, laggy update"?

Because I'm not even going to wait for that update. Customers should have something like honour. If Sony failed with software update, well, let's tell them about that and don't be super happy because gracious Sony updated the phone after a long time of waiting.

And btw, someone said that maybe they want to make a decent update?

Decent update? Sony once released ICS which was based on 2.6 kernel. Every other device got 3.0 kernel with that update. Just a small example how Sony tricks their customers. So maybe I believe in KK from Sony, but I don't believe in decent, smooth, bugless KK from Sony.
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
I don't agree

Does the phone work well with last fw? Yes

Sony did her job

If and only if they want to update, they will do. If you want update pick a nexus without any software and utility only for say "i have 4.4.4!". I think is better have 4.3 bugless with lots of features by sony like smart social camera, stamina ecc. Than a 4.4.4 without nothing this is my point of view, im on eXistenZ since june and i would stay here forever.

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
buy other brands if you believe they could provide latest updates for you:laugh:
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Not for everyone - RAM management is still awful for some people, there is a bug with screen dimming on load, also there are lots of small bugs hidden throughout the system(unistalling bar bug, etc, etc). Also there is a GPS bug (idk if. 207 fixed it, but. 207 is just a carrier update - not everyone will get it).

Yes, IF they want to update.

I wanted to buy Sony, I bought Sony. I didn't even think about buying a Nexus, but it wasn't a subject of my previous post.

Also if we are getting KK, we will still get Sony features in it. So I don't know what's the point of comparing 4.4.4 clean update with 4.3 Sony update.

Hmm, they still can do it faster than Sony - proof? HTC One Mini, which is in the same class as XSP(mid-range).