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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pandemic187:
This is currently happening to me, although it works on a new install of my current ROM. This makes me wonder if a Play Services update (or similar service) killed it intentionally. I'm going to let everything update after a new install, while it's working, and see if it dies.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgl888:
I'm seeing the same thing. It works if I update to hangouts.... ugh
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pandemic187:
So now I guess our next step is to figure out what service is killing Talk and revert that as well. Because as I said this works on a new install of my ROM that was built before whatever was pushed.

I don't have a problem with you updating an app - but if you're going to force me to use the updated version, don't strip it of the features that made it great! Looks like Google has officially gone astray from their old slogan of "Don't be evil."
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mgl888:
What phone/version are you using?

---------- Post added at 03:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 AM ----------

I found the culprit. It's Google Play services, which was updated Nov 5.

Uninstalling the update gives me gtalk connection back, but maps doesn't like it.

Looks like we need to find the apk before the update and prevent it from autoupdating
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Royz1911:
I can confirm that uninstalling the Google Play Services updates allows Talk to work fine again (Nexus 4). Also that some functions like "improved location" in Maps are asking for this update back.

What I don't really get is that I never enable auto-updates, only pick them manually, and that Talk suddenly stopped working last night. Even though the last Google play services update i did was at least a few weeks ago...sleeper feature? Or is Google Play Services updated anyway in the background? I'm not sure that finding the version prior to the one published on Nov 6th will fix the issue, at least without any drawback...

Google and its f*cked up Hangouts are really pissing me off. Forced updates, forced apps, I'm starting to feel like I'm dealing with Apple here.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pandemic187:
Nexus 4. Sorry, thought you would have seen that in my sig. Version 4.2.2-573038 of the app.

Agreed. I don't mind even mind the update though. The reason there is forcing involved is because Google removed Talk's most important features and expects us to just deal with it. If things keep going this way, my next phone may very well be an iPhone or a Windows phone. I can't support a company that forces its customers to use featureless junk. Google needs to realize that while it still has the largest chunk of the market, there are two other major players, and they are not invincible by any means.

I'm using imo.im, at least for the time being.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rspaulo:
Same here, I´ve noticed that Google Play Services update is the bad guy. The Hangouts (crap) works after the update. I removed the Google play services updates and gtalk worked again bit now the triangle with the exclamation about google play services keeps anoying me.

I´ve noticed on GPS (google play services) update, theere are two new permission requests and one of them is turn on/off network...

I´m sticking with gtalk and the triangle error :)

Sorry for my english, is not my native language.

Update: After disabling google+ notifications, the triangle on status bar has gone :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jethro1138:
Ugh. Kit Kat came with this all pre-loaded. I did install the Talk APK but yeah, it can't login. Not sure what I can force-downgrade to get it to work without breaking stuff too badly. Anyone have any ideas?

I really, really can't stand Hangouts. It's not an IM program.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Royz1911:
On my Nexus 4, reverting Google play services allows me to use Talk again, but I noticed I am now unable to send mails with the Gmail app. I can receive just fine, but no way to send...anyone having this too (with the factory version of gplay services)?

Also the network icon constantly gets grayed out. It seems to be working fine... Strange though.

I update the gplay services again, no Gmail is too much to ask for me.

I'll use another messenger while waiting for a new gplay services update to come out. Or maybe waiting to get an previous apk that keeps the overall functions working just fine.

I remember when I would proudly feel satisfied with having chosen Google and Android over the rest. Hm not so much today. Wouldn't really quit android, but damn I hate seeing it weakened by those socially-networked-marketing-alterations.

If anyone has a decent backup for gplay services that allows talk AND the rest to work fine, I'll be interested! Gotta say I have the previous version (the one right before the Nov 5th update) in a nandroid bkp, and somehow Talk doesn't work anymore with it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RFE:
First off, I have suffered from the same issue but found a solution. Secondly everyone should be aware that it depends on the Android version you are currently running if the Google Play Services can be downgraded without an issue. The best version that works with talk, maps & gmail is 4.0.31... if anyone needs a copy let me know! -RFE
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bfspider:
I can confirm this issue... It is rather frustrating that I now have to use hangouts.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrkimi84:
you can try Google Hangout ong CHPLAY!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orl.on.dow:
Talk seems to be working again since the latest Play Services update. At least it does on my phone (LG G2).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jethro1138:
Still not working for me. No idea if we'll even get that update on Kit Kat. What version do you see?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orl.on.dow:
4.0.33
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jethro1138:
Darn, same version here, but gtalk still won't login ): Might be a kitkat thing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ms.journie:
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 and the S4. On my S2 Google Talk works and on my S4 it doesn't. The both have the updated version of Google Play Service. So as for me that's not the solution.

I'm still trying to figure out a way for Talk to work on my S4.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astralbee:
Hangouts has grown on me. It was a bit bulky at first, but the UI is the same as Gmail and the new email app for 4.4 so I've gotten used to it. Plus now it can handle SMS messaging too its essential.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jethro1138:
It just doesn't do what I want it to do. I don't want all my contacts mixed in the same basket. IM contacts, email contacts, gmail contacts and phone/SMS contacts are NOT the same pool and I don't want them to be in the same pool. I want to be able to logout of IM and have people in the IM pool NOT BE ABLE TO CONTACT ME, for example - and right now I don't even have that anymore even if I never ever use Hangouts (which I don't). People can IM me when I'm offline and it goes to gmail and sits there for a week or two until I open gmail.

Again, I have no problem with Hangouts as The Big Social Integrator, but they should've left Talk out there for those of us who do not WANT it all integrated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astralbee:
Well you are just as entitled to express your opinion as I am, but I have to admit when you quote me and then SHOUT it did feel like you thought I'd coded the bloody thing. I'll let you off though. ;)

I would like to add though that I personally would like to see Android continue to develop and grow. I don't want to see it turn into iOS where users don't have any choices, but the open platform does attract those of us who like doing some things manually and don't want everything to be integrated or synchronise against our will, and I've come to realise we do occasionally need dragging into the modern age. SMS text messaging seems to be on its way out - I get something ridiculous like 3000 text messages a month with my phone contract but I hardly use SMS to communicate with most of my contacts any more, it's all 'WhatsApp' or Hangouts. Since I integrated my SMS messaging into Hangouts I've discovered more of my contacts use Hangouts than I had previously realised and as such I find it more convenient to use Hangouts to message them using my data allowance. I can see a future where SMS goes and then it isn't a bunch of different messaging protocols "all in the same basket", it's just messages and it is what it is.

I think Google needed to do this, or somebody else would - Apple, Tizan, whatever - and lots of people would think how cool that was and go lock themself into a 24 month contact on a non-android device.

In Google I trust. Well, most of the time.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jethro1138:
I definitely did not mean to shout - I was just too lazy to use italics! Please consider my caps to be emphasis and not yelling (:

First, I totally agree with you about SMS. I have no used SMS in years. So I definitely don't need it integrated into my IM program! Again, my biggest problem with Hangouts is the integration of everything into the same app. I don't want that. There's a reason I had multiple apps in the past - I want them separate.

Second problem - I want to be able to be offline or away and have my friends know this. I want them to know "hey he's offline, we cannot send him an IM right now." And if people have nothing but IM to contact me with, it's like that for a reason! I also want them to be able to see "well he's logged into IM but it might take him a while to reply."

Third - I'd like to see that same status for them! If I run Hangouts right now, it doesn't really tell me. There's no "away" and it's telling me people are online whom I know for a fact are nowhere near their computer/mobile device.

Oh! And fourth - friggin privacy. With Talk I could tell it "Ok, don't ever log anything. ever." With hangouts, I have to go to each individual one and set that. There's no default way to do that! And since I don't use a Hangouts client (old talk clients still work on the desktop) everythinggets automatically logged and I have no way to disable that!

Now, another thing I want to mention is that this is hardly Google's first attempt to "drag us into the modern age" and tell us we're communicating all wrong. They tried that before with Google Wave. And let me just say, my friend, that Wave was brilliant. It was a fantastic idea and I wish it had caught on. But it died horribly and Google abandoned it... except that it seems that now they are turning Talk/Hangouts into it.

Here's the thing - Wave was basically a modern way to do email, and collaborative communication. It had some IM elements, naturally, but it was basically a non-linear collaborative communication service. Which is not what IM is.

Right now, my phone - which is a brand-new Nexus 5 - does not have Hangouts on it. I deleted it and replaced it with the old Talk... which, as the topic of this thread indicates, no longer works. Frankly, I'm happier not having anything than using Hangouts.
[HTC Sensation] MrJukeHardbane:
I recently flashed MIUI latest release 3.11.1. The issue came up when I connected my device with my office wifi. Whenever i connect my device with office wifi my phone gets stuck with a wierd kind of bootloop. The MIUI bootanimation appears and then the lock screen and it continue doing so. The phone become usable for 3-4 seconds and the it reboots again. If i switch off my wifi within that usable 3-4 seconds then it becomes normal. Wifi ia working good with my home and friends place. Its only just office network which causes bootloop. Office wifi is also working good on previous versions of MIUI. So far i tried flashing other versions of sultan kernel but the issue still remains. I am S-Off with 1.27.1111 hboot and 3.33 firmware. Any help would be appreciated.
[HTC Sensation] HTCZ715E:
try my solution:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2368501

download miuiandroid_pyramid_3.11.1_telephony-common.jar, rename to telephony-common.jar and replace original in /sistem/framework...
[HTC Sensation] MrJukeHardbane:
Thanks man. I replaced the file and let you know if it solved the bootanimation-lockscreen bootloop with office WiFi or not. Thanks for the help anyways.
[HTC Sensation] MrJukeHardbane:
Didn't worked
[Nokia Lumia 1020] n7slc:
Anybody tried to add the charging coil to the factory housing? I remember seeing a mod for the 925 to add it, just wondering it there's one for the 1020. I'd love to be able to use some different cases and keep the wireless charging.
[Nokia Lumia 1020] xxsashixx:
You can take out the coil and put it in a case
[Nokia Lumia 1020] neoxkid:
Did you try it?
[Nokia Lumia 1020] xxsashixx:
yes i did, it worked perfectly
[Nokia Lumia 1020] neoxkid:
can you post picturs? what case are you useing with the coil? did you use glu?
[Nokia Lumia 1020] xxsashixx:
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1020/238336-otterbox-wireless-charging-mod.html

This can be done with any case really..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hippeastrummy:
Hi folks,

many roms has been tried out FXP era + latest 4.3.1 rom

logcat always show when turning on NFC

11-06 10:42:39.521: W/NFC-LLC(2380): LLC length mis-match

I am using NFC for checking up my travelling card remaining value.

Thanks

Hippeastrummy
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Critical Detox:
Could someone pull the apk for me? I don't need Call of duty elite i need the "call of duty" app at this link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.activision.callofduty.mobile the reason I'm asking is because it claims to be incompatible with my device. Thanks in advance.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidfearless:
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/

use this to download the apk from google play, then install it on your phone
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shino82:
Here you are...

https://db.tt/lrvTGOMi
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Critical Detox:
Thank you both for your assistance, Greatly appreciated!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sjroberts98:
I'll start with that fact that I know I did this to myself.

With that out of the way, I need some help. I'm coming from a Moto X (that I was planning on keeping as well), so I bought a nano to micro sim adapter from Amazon.

With my new N5 unboxed and ready to go, I went ahead and tried just the adapter in the micro SIM tray to make sure it fit well. Turns out it goes in, but does not come out, or at least not without the nano SIM installed.

Now I have a shiny new N5 with the SIM tray stuck in the device, but my nano SIM isn't in it. When I insert the SIM ejection tool the tray pops out about 1/8", and I can get my finger nails on it and pull, but it will not come out any further.

I've tried slipping a piece of paper in while it is partially ejected to see if I can get it past a particular stuck point, but I don't really know what part is stuck.

I really don't want to tear open my brand new phone, any other ideas?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grneyez:
Try this it's a video for a iphone, but it may work in your case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMcMkEJAIU
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eneka:
worst come to worst you can pop off the back... http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016

I'm guessing the adapter just isn't sitting flush, maybe try using a business car of paper that's sturdier?

Also try jiggling it up and down light, that how i got the sim tray out of an iPhone that was also stuck because of these damn adapters.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sjroberts98:
Thanks, I'll try it with a little less force. I tried the first reply as well, with a piece of clear thin plastic, but no luck. I can get the plastic pretty far into the tray area, but can't get it to slide out at all. I guess this is one part of the phone they manufactured with really tight tolerances.

I already ordered the ifixit tool kit from Amazon..not sure if two Amazon's make a right, but it is probably the only answer.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoang51:
So I was in this same position. I was going from Apple iPhone 5 to Google Nexus 5 back and forth. I didn't want to lose my nano to micro SIM adapter, so I put it in the Nexus 5's SIM tray and then into the Nexus 5. Lesson learned: Do not ever stick in an empty SIM adapter (micro-SIM for Nexus 5) into the tray. It will get stuck by the recess portion of the SIM adapter due to the spring terminals inside the phone that makes electrical contact with the metallic portions of the SIM. If you don't know what I mean, take a look at your SIM card and you'll see about three lines that travel across the metallic portions of the SIM. I did not need to open up the Nexus 5 to remove my stuck tray.

It turns out that if you still have the Nexus 5 screen protection film that comes with the new phone that you pull off of the LCD screen side, it is stiff enough to create a ramp for the metallic spring terminals to remove the stuck tray with the adapter in it. Cut across the width of the Nexus 5 screen protection film. Measure such that the width of the film to be about the width of the SIM's metallic width.

Here's a photo of what I'm talking about:

Note the Nexus 5 screen protection film, the Nexus 5 SIM tray in its normal position with the micro SIM adapter card recess portion pointing downwards, the nano SIM, and a piece of folded V shape plastic film cut out.

Pop out the SIM tray from the Nexus 5. It'll probably go out just enough that you can slip in a plastic film. What you do is you bend the cut plastic film in half to create a V shape and you jam in the bent V portion into the bottom side of the SIM tray opening if the Nexus 5 LCD screen is facing you. This is because that's where the SIM card's metallic parts face. You want to use the plastic film at the bent portion, not the two ends of the plastic film to be inserted into the SIM tray so that you can create a ramp to allow the spring terminals inside the phone to slide up and out of the recess of the micro SIM adapter (empty portion of where the SIM would normally go). You are trying to insert the plastic film where the SIM card normally goes into the recess portion of the micro SIM adapter. Make sure that the plastic film goes about more than the length of the SIM card or about the length of tray going into the phone. At that point, while pushing the plastic film into the tray, you will need to wiggle and pull the SIM tray out. I hope you have some finger nails, as that would help.

Watch this YouTube and it's basically what you're suppose to be doing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCMcMkEJAIU

Good luck. I know I wasted a lot of time removing mine and finally got mine out. Hope this helps someone else out.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaronkalb:
I was in the EXACT same scenario tonight and just wanted to say thanks. It took about 10 minutes, but I got the tray and the adapter out without breaking anything. Thanks again!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yenupuri:
Thank you hoang51 :good::good::good:

It worked and helped me get my nexus 5 tray out.

Remember guys, if you have your tray stuck, try this method (mentioned by hoang51) and be patient. It works!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ivarson_swe:
You saved My N5 too, worked like a sharm
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt68000:
I'm curious if the pins come up from the bottom of the phone or down from the top. To put it another way, do I slot in the plastic on the top of the sim card tray or the bottom? I assume the bottom but I'm having a bit of trouble getting this to work.

On the positive side, I had some difficulty finding plastic that would fit in there. Paper was, of course, too flimsy. It appears that cutting a rectangle out of an aluminum soda can seems to fit quite well and retain its shape as I fumble around with this.

Thanks for the ideas!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Corbu:
Thank you for the idea, it worked for me too.

One piece of advice for those who are struggling > try to use the piece of plastic unfolded. I found the V shaped folded plastic too thick to properly go inside, as soon as I unfolded it it worked like a charm.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dinc4g:
For the record, You need to slide the shim between the bottom of the tray and the phone. Like where the Pins would contact the sim card.

Wasted about 90 min sliding the shim in the topside.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howard bamber:
When it's fixed put some duct tape on the underside of the converter. Trim to size. It stopped my pins. You can put a blank cut piece of plastic in the cutout, the duct tape holding it. Just swap the blank for the sim.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ref1ux:
Many many thanks to everyone who posted help and advice in this thread especially http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=3827427

Got my sim tray out after about 20 mins of wiggling. Thought i was doing it wrong but got there in the end. Phew! Was very worried id broken a £350 phone!

Just for the record..... DO NOT PUT EMPTY SIM ADAPTORS IN THE NEXUS 5! :good:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vlawrence0324:
After about an hour of jiggling and wiggling, i finally got it out using my galaxy note 3's screen film. Many thanks i thought my N5 is over.

Hurra!!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Docarut:
Love it when a story has a happy ending. Great example of a helping hand saving many in trouble.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t1.8matt:
What a freaking nightmare. Tore the whole phone apart and couldn't figure how to get the tray out until I came across this thread. Thanks [MENTION=3827427]hoang51[/MENTION], you saved my arse.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwhinnery:
I joined this forum just so I could say thank you for this. I thought I was well and truly humped until I read the trick about folding the plastic film and inserting it into the bottom side of the tray. Popped out after about a minute of fiddling. Big ups sir!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottjb:
Thank you. This worked for me too.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ichisan76:
Thanks a bunch saved my Red Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] distortedloop:
A 0.15 mm feeler gauge, such as this one from AutoZone or Pep Boys is PERFECT for this task. I slid it in on the non-screen-side of the sim tray, pulled on the tray and out it came, instantly, first attempt, no wiggling or playing with it required. The feeler gauges I have are exactly the same width as a mini SIM.

Sadly, I didn't think of this trick a few years ago when I did the same stupid thing with my CR-48 Chromebook's SIM and destroyed the pins forcing the sim adapter out. :(
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loxdp:
Thank you so much for posting this fix. So other people place empty SIM-adapters back in the tray for safe-keeping, too. Who would have thunk it? :)

It took about 15mins of wiggling for me. A couple of things I took from this:

1. Don't fold the plastic (the "v-shape" thing) - a single sheet will be stiff enough and thin enough to allow the tray to eventually slide out easier.

2. There's a video from droid life that shows the procedure specifically on a Nexus 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2MfD-b2UY#t=131

3. It helps to look at this tear-down first, so you know what you're dealing with inside the device (step no. 10 from the top shows the SIM-card holder): https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016

4. I also tried the feeler gauges (.10 and .20 mm), but it felt like it might damage the pins. Got lucky with the strip of plastic eventually.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A4X7Dude:
This one worked for me, I also had an adapter stuck. I didn't have the protector film but I had a hard thin plastic from a micro usb package leftover. I initially tried with a thin pin, as in the youtube video which didn't work out. I jiggled the plastic a lot.

Unfortunately for me it took about half an hour to get it unstuck and now the tray looks like a prostitute's **** but at least it works.