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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Shaggy Kobain:
You'll need to Odin the NC2/NC4 firmware in order to get the ROM to flash.

Download that on your pc, extract it, once you are in SafeStrap go to advanced and then download mode and plug in the phone to the pc then open Odin and in the AP slot attach the extracted .tar file. Run it, and you'll be set to flash your ROM of choosing-
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Nurdyboy:
I have that already installed as well but still no cigar:crying:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] christianpeso:
Which ROM are you trying to install?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Nurdyboy:
Iv tried jasmine and beanstow. Hyper Rom as well
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] christianpeso:
Should of clarified a bit more. Specifically which version, as different versions of those ROMS work ONLY with specific kernels.

And when you say it fails, do you get an error message or anything of the sort?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] RomsWell:
Odin the nc2 kernel. Then boot the rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Nurdyboy:
When I try to flash any rom what so ever even restore from backup of stock NC4 I get a faild indtall through safestrap. As for the Roms I tried beand town stock NC4 faild Jasmin 2.4.1 faild so i cant even get far enught to flash the firmwear....iv even tried it before flashing the Rom and still faild flash after flash

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And before anyome asks im flashing the firmwear with odin like requierd and there is no error code on safe strap just faild install
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] gr8nole:
Pull the recovery logs and attach them so we can take a look at why the install fails. Recovery logs are located at /cache/recovery, or you can use the "Copy log to SD card" function of Safestrap. That will copy the current log to external sd, so make sure you try the install again so we can see the error message.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Nurdyboy:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y2l5q2iouc0nx9/recovery.log?dl=0

Ok hear is my recovery log. It wouldent let me upload it directly so i dropbox it for anyone willing to take a look and help figure out whays going on

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Hear is my log hoping you can find what might be wrong.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y2l5q2iouc0nx9/recovery.log?dl=0
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] gr8nole:
In Safestrap, click the Advanced button; then click Settings and UN-CHECK "Zip file signature verification". Then try to flash the rom again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Haints:
Just found this thread and got 3.75 to work!

Which roms are you all using? Looking for something fast for gaming ...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Wilsonb:
[MENTION=4327502]Haints[/MENTION] I personally am using Biggins Rom and can swear by it.. Im hoping for a LollyPop releass soon. Im ready to redo everything and start from scratch,even SafeStrap. I am constantly getting Insufficient space when installing from Google play store. I feel its caused by something I did wrong initially in SafeStrap a while back. To bad SafeStrap project was put on hold... Thats all we had going for us with the looked boot strap
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] keynith:
Go to recovery and wipe your caches. Had the same problem until i did that.

Sent From My Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
So does Safestrap make any sense for Note 3 users whose phones came with 4.4.2 NC4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
Yes it works fine on nc4 but some roms will require the nc2 kernel to boot

NoTe III'd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
So to make sure that I have an accurate view of how SafeStrap works, and its relationship with NC4, let me know if the following are true:

1. When I install SafeStrap, the current factory ROM is preserved as-is, and SafeStrap is simply an application that runs in it. If I don't use the ROM slots, it requires no additional resources, and the phone runs as it always has, except I gain TWRP capabilities to do NANDroid backups and restores.

2. The phone always boots to the factory ROM, but the factory ROM's boot process is redirected by Safestrap to a different location when a ROM slot is activated.

3. When I create a ROM slot, and make it active, I use the TWRP custom recovery on the phone to install the ROM from the SD card, instead of ODIN to install from a PC to the factory location.

4. The ROM slots require ROMs with the NC2 kernel, which is a slightly older version of KitKat.

5. I can delete a ROM slot at any time, which will return the storage allocated when creating the slot.

6. If I want to uninstall SafeStrap, I simply activate the original factory ROM, and uninstall SafeStrap. This will automatically free the storage used by SafeStrap's ROM slots.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
I use SafeStrap only for Recovery so I don't have any experience with ROM switching and I'm still using Android 4.3 (MI9), but I can answer some of your questions. I have not torn apart SafeStrap to examine its guts so all I have are guesses from examining some of the scripts, seeing what other files exist, and reading Hashcode's short comments in this forum.

I'm going to avoid the term "ROM" because it is ambiguous. It means something different to me because I started building and programming computers in '84.

The stock System partition has some files added to it, it is no longer stock. Android boots normally until a certain point in the process where a command has been inserted. At this poing the files on System are used to present the SafeStrap menu.

- If you choose SafeStrap, a modified TWRP recovery program is loaded into a RAM-disk and run. Here you have access to both TWRP's features and SafeStrap control.

- If you choose the other menu option (I rarely use my Verizon device so I can't recall its label) you continue to boot into either the stock configuration (stock System/Data) or the custom configuration you have setup.

Continueing my guess. If you have setup a custom configuration then that System and Data configuration will be mounted on the System and Data partitions instead of the stock System and Data configuration. Files and mount points for each configuration will be added to the device when you first set them up in the modified TWRP recovery. I can't tell you where the custom Systems reside until they are mounted for that custom configuration -- I have not done this.

If you do not create any custom configurations then you will still have the SafeStrap control files on the stock System. This means that the boot is still intercepted to give you the SafeStrap menu and the modified TWRP. None of those leave the system until you use the SafeStrap Android application to uninstall them, which removes all of SafeStrap and TWRP, except for the remaining Android application which you use Android to uninstall.

Whichever configuration is marked as active (stock by default) will be booted into each boot until you go into SafeStrap/TWRP to change it. I think the stock System is mounted each time, this makes everything which is needed by SafeStrap available to it, then a custom System is mounted in its place if that is your active configuration, and stock System is not available.

I think these questions remain for someone with the appropriate experience:

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
In that scenario, I would think you would simply use TWRP and be able to always have the latest version.

Come on Frank, tell us how you really feel. :laugh: These phones have a ROM, but what people talk about here when referring to flashing a ROM is no more flashing ROM than ghosting a system partition to a Winchester drive is. The only difference is it is written to NAND. I use the term ROM only because it is how it is commonly referred to.

That's what I would guess too. The only way I could envision that working is if the kernels in the ROM slots are the same version as the main install, as with Parallels.

That would make sense. I wonder if I then gave back root with SuperSU and uninstalled it, if it would go back to Official, or would I have to clean it off, and ODIN a new factory to it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
If I remember correctly you are planning this for a SM-N900T so that you can bypass some security requirements. SafeStrap was designed for devices with a locked boot-loader -- devices which cannot write to the boot and recovery partitions. I have both the SM-N900T and the SM-N900V so I use SafeStrap on the V for the custom Recovery, which gets run from a RAM-disk instead of from the Recovery partition.

SafeStrap does not permit the use of custom kernels -- only the System and Data components are managed.

The term "ROM", I think, is being used to refer to the System and Data partitions only and does not include boot, recovery, or any other, but whatever it is it is not read-only memory (ROM). I haven't looked at the hardware at all but it seems to me that it must be a non-volatile, random-access memory (NV-RAM). Back in the old days you could upgrade a system by replacing a ROM chip obtained from the manufacturer, and the term "ROM" then began its disassociation with what it really means.

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
No, this is a:

Model number: SM-N900V

Android Version: 4.4.2

Baseband version: N900VVRUCNC4

Kernel Version: 3.4.0 dpi@SWDD5020#1 Mon. April 28 16:42:37 KST 2014

Build number: KOT49H.N900VVRUCNC4

Hardware version: N900V.07

Security Software Version: MDF v1.0 Release 2

Concerning the security requirement aspects, I have that only partially solved. I also haven't gotten call recording to work with Bluetooth.

Only if you have NC2 it says. In an NC4 scenario, it looks like TWRP would be just as good of a choice, maybe better. I wonder about the NANDroid backups in that they only show Data, Cache, and System, while TWRP shows Boot, and all the rest. Perhaps SafeStrap gets them, but I'm not convinced. It's possible SafeStrap only gets what would work in a ROM slot. In that case I'd be better with TWRP and get the entire phone. I'm thinking about switching now.

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
You can't use twrp on a locked bootloader...... only dev edition n3. That's y ss doesn't do boot. Cause u can't! Also u can't use custom kernel only stock nc2 or nc4 again cause it's a locked bootloader.....

NoTe III'd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
That clears it up, now I understand why the confusion. You were mentioning builds I know nothing about (because I've been happy with MI9 and haven't followed the discussions) so I thought maybe Verizon unlocked the boot-loader for us.

There has been a lot of discussion here between people who have a developer edition of Verizon's Note3, and with the developer edition you can write to Boot and Recovery. The rest of us have to use SafeStrap's TWRP.

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
Thank you for contributing that. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the locked bootloader concept. Since it's a computer, and Verizon can update the bootloader via an OTA update, there must be a way to get at it, just like any computer.

That I did know. SafeStrap claims that ROM slots are back if you use the NC2 kernel. Is it possible to flash the KitKat NC2 kernel to the NC4 ROM in the stock position, and then use NC2 kernels in the slots? Leaked NC2 Kernel. There are several other threads where they do an install and flash this kernel.

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
I wish it was that easy. They've spent lots of $ to lock it down. Many have tried. That's why hash made ss. If you flash the nc2 kernel it affects all slots. Once you flash it that's it. Kernel can't be changed via recovery [twrp]. Only odin. And yes the nc2 runs fine on nc4 base in stock slot. Some custom roms require nc2 kernel to boot.

NoTe III'd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] IT_Architect:
That sounds like a Parallels/VPS type system. Then correct me if I'm wrong. To regain the use of SafeStrap's intended purpose one would.

1. Flash the factory area to NC2 using ODIN.

2. Use SS to flash ROMs based on the stock ROM, into the Safe slots, using SafeStrap/TWRP

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jrbxx7:
Ss will work fully with nc4 however all but 2 of the roms require nc2 kernel. it's recommend to run on the stock slot for best battery life ect....

NoTe III'd
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] godrick15:
I updated from 4.3 MJE to 4.4 NC2 (kingo+odin+safestrap). I forgot to create a backup for the Stock Rom Slot (4.4 NC2)....before I started downloading apps and such.

I haven't started flashing new Roms yet, but I have been messing around with root. Is there a way to create a new, clean, backup? So that I could create a new Slot Rom 1?

I was thinking of Wipe on SS? But then I really dont know exactly what to wipe.

Yes, I'm noob. Please help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
If I understand you correctly, you want to create a clean backup of a stock image.

Download to sd card the de-odexed stock rom in the Beans OP (see links in my sig), restart your device, at SAFESTRAP screen hit RECOVERY, after doing 'factory reset' (using slider) in SAFESTRAP recovery, flash the beans stock rom to stock slot. Backup, then add apps /personal settings...

Notorious 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] godrick15:
THANKS!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Protocol 9:
Indeed, the close release date of the two different units seems to have caused a lot of confusion, to be honest I would use safestrap for every device I own if it was written. Who doesn't love having multiple rom slots....:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tw1n5nak35:
I mos def agree. We're better off with out our Juggernaut 3, rooted with custom recovery available. Looks like For note4, root is still not ready and custom recovery. Though, Sbreen has Dropped HyperDrive on tmobile Note Edge :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] the_rooter:
I havent been in this thread for a while, but after hearing hashcode is stopping all updates, and then hearing rumors of another dev taking over. I need to ask. Who (if anyone) took over this project? I heard it was [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION] or [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION].
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jcase:
Who stated it was me, because it certainly is not. This isnt the type of project I work on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] the_rooter:
Thats what I thought to. It was a g+ about a week ago. I will see if I can locate it again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] BeansTown106:
Not me either I have moved on to the aosp side of things for now :/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tw1n5nak35:
I Know your loving your Nexus 6, maybe sometime in the future you might come back to the juggernaut 3 :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] azteka88:
need help!

Hello there before i start i would like to apologize for bad english and i would like to thank all developers who make this happen!

Ok! So i have a problem here, i have a verizon note 3 in 4.4.2 version that i rooted whit towel root apk, after that i have no camera or usb detection i unrooted and restored back to factory settings but no luck so my thought is, can i install safestrap in 4.4.2 NC4 whitout causing bootloop? I have no way to flash NC2 since i lost usb conectivity even in download mode! :( thats weird but true, i just want to get my usb and camera back to work! Thank you any help will be apreciate it!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] the_rooter:
Once u have safestrap installed u also need busy box installed else safestrap will not work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] azteka88:
But is it safe to install in 4.4.2 whit NC4 ? I read before can cause bootlop im afraid i could brick my phone :( that's why im asking to you guys first!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] the_rooter:
Yes its safe. Just follow the steps. I have done it many times. Flashing can cause bootloops. The risk of bricking your device is high. If you do bootloop or mess up just odin back to original, but u will be ok.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] azteka88:
I cannot use odin to flash! When i plug my phone to pc i get unknown device message after rooting thats why i want to flash stock rom also my camera is not working :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] robertmoore208:
Damn time to buy an bigger SD card this maxs out my phone storage with two roms haha, but nonetheless it's a awesome to say the least (^_-)

Thank you

My Note3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] shawnten:
so how do you reboot every time i renoot it takes me back to my stock rom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] robertmoore208:
Are you clicking the return to recovery tab on the bottom left?

My Note3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] boynamedstacy:
You're plugged in I bet
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] shawnten:
Yes I was. Must have missed that. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] polo2883:
From the first post is says " TEST #9: Custom ROM flash on rom-slot: PASS"

Does that mean we can flash roms onto the default primary rom-slot instead of the virtual?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mbh87:
Yup...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TweakerL:
LoL, I feel... silly... after re-flashing about 5-10 times trying to get it to work... XD... Funny thing is that after I read your post I seem to remember having the same thing happen on the Bionic... LoL... Thanks a lot though.

Don't feel bad at all... The first thing I did when I got my first Android phone, the Droid X, was to brick it within 10 minutes of unboxing it.

Anyway, I took the OTA via Kies, because I couldn't OTA from MI9 de la vega. Once on MJ7, I used Kingo, then flashed the SuperSu like other users have mentioned. All has worked fine.

So I accidentally installed the safestrap update on rom-slot1 and installed the recovery from there. Thankfully, everything still works fine. Just figured I'd report.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] yakitori2:
I am thinking about doing this...Can someone please give input on if they think it will be ok.

Jelly Beans rom is my preferred stable rom of choice. After the next release that fixes the double bluetooth and a couple minor stuff I want to use it as my DD in my stock slot. Here is what I plan to do. Let me know what you think.

1. Starting with stock MJ7 rooted / debloated / wanam module etc in stock slot

2. Install SS. Reboot to recovery

3. setup rom slot 1 with JB build. Make a backup of this build after I get it setup how I want it.

4. Reboot into SS again. Make a backup of my Stock rom slot from step 1.

5. Wipe my stock rom slot clean.

6. restore my JB backup from step 3 to the stock rom slot.

7. Reboot into SS again and delete slot 1 (which would be the JB that I backed up)

8. Uninstall SS recovery.

9. Run phone with JB on stock only.

OR...

will removing SS after restoring JB backup to stock slot trip Knox?

Thanks for any help. I know it sounds complicated but basically I want to use Jellybeans rom as my stock DD and remove SS unless I want to run something else. However I will still have a backup of the stock rom on my SDcard if ever needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TweakerL:
Why not just run the JB Rom from rom-slot1?, I mean, why do you have to restore the backup on top of the stock slot?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] bossei:
I'm guessing because he doesn't want to run to ROMs and filling up his space which we all know is limited.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] yakitori2:
Space. The way I see it is why have a full 1.2 + gb system sitting there not being used on the stock slot. I dont really need to have multiple slots because I dont use multiple roms back and forth. At this moment there are 2 rom options to me...JB or HD. Not counting stock deodex or odex. Then there is my stock one that I debloated.

JB runs best for me. Better than stock as long as all the fixes he is including soon are included I plan on making it my primary rom. I dont see the point in running it from a slot with limited space...but rather put it on my stock slot and remove SS so I can boot directly into my rom. I prefer not to have the SS boot option. If I want to use another rom or restore a backup, Ill just install SS recovery again. I keep the app in my app drawer but just uninstall the recovery.

Just personal preference I suppose.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Larry Fortune:
Good golly!! I just realized what safestrap does for us!

Good golly!! I just realized what safestrap does for us!

I've got stock in stock slot.

I've got Hyperdrive in Slot-1.

I've got Beans Jellybean in Slot-2.

I can play with them all separately. Setting them up with different apks. Using restores. Backing up apks differently.

Wow, and they ALL work separately!!

How far we've come since the Note 1???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] lmike6453:
You forgot one thing. What do you do when randomly you can't boot to your 1 main ROM without SS?

Odin back to stock? What if a simple cache/dalvik cache, or nandroid restore, would have fixed the booting issue, or if you are traveling/outdoors away from a PC and want your phone to work?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TJF2012:
Thanks for the SS.. Never used SS before but I think I'm liking it better than a bootloader unlock so far. Thank You Donation Confirmation number: 51D70817NG997845M.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] parcou:
Per the upgrade instructions how can one boot into stock to do the upgrade if I have no stock. I followed the "How to install roms on over stock rom" so I deleted the partition for stock rom per instructions...

I am little afraid to experiment so what steps I take to update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] yakitori2:
for a rom built using an OTA base designed to run on this phone and the stock kernel. I dont see stability as an issue, or else yes..Id agree with you. Its a risk Id take given a roms stability after running it in SS slot for a while...once stability is proven...no worry on my part about not booting properly. Yes...if it wouldnt boot, Id try to boot into download mode and ODIN back to stock. If Im away from a computer then Im without a phone for a while. No big deal. I can afford to miss a few calls or texts. The same would have to be done if I couldnt get a stock image to boot never having used SS before anyway. Ive had a warranty replacement issue on a Gnex before and verizon couldnt send me the replacement for 2 days. I didnt have a phone for 2 days. Its a phone...not herion. lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] lmike6453:
I hear ya. I'm often away from home for long periods of time so

No computer and no phone make LMike go crazy!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mjh68:
I am assuming you would have to flash either deoxed or odexed version of the stock rom Beans has uploaded or else Odin back to stock J7. Accidentally, quoted the wrong message lol. This was in response to Parcou.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] tw1n5nak35:
Pledge & payment for SS. $100 to hashcode0f@gmail.com Payment Sent Transaction ID # 6V626983NR103822Y

Thank you Hashcode for safestrap on my Juggernot3 and on my bionic last year. :D

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