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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
It's because we are using Angstrom as distro and it doesnt support Opie. Angstrom requires 2 people in their team to add Opie as a supported GUI env. For now there is only one maintainer but that's not enough. So in the Angstrom repos there are no Opie libs, opie appz and so. If it a single one here and there is then it's there just because some other apps needs it.

This is fixed now, but i havent uploaded any new images yet. I am waiting for better support in gsmd first.

I thought it where included. I'll take a look at it with my next image.

welcome
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Umts/gprs Up

FYI:

We did some tests today with the modem, and we found out that UMTS/GPRS is working. :-)

One step closer to the goal :-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] marthynovak:
I am very afraid to get this linux to my Universal,Is it secure?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] marthynovak:
sorry,bug on my computer.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Very good news .... looking forward to see new roms :`)

Thanks for all your work in this project
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] LxAxKxI:
MMC problem

Hi all ,

I try to install linux on my JasJar , but i have mmc card and i get error unknown mmc version 4 , is any solution for this ?

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
hi.

I have no idea, i have never tried with mmc card before, only SD.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] CWKJ:
I am going to ask a very off topic question about Linux. Please ignore if you do not like it.

I have never used Linux before but heard of a lot of good things about it.

If I want to install Linux on PC (not PPC), any recommendation?

Any hardware limitation in term of PC MicroProcessors?

Is duo OS switchable possible, example M$ and Linux?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Since you ask so polite i'll answer you :-) . And yes there are several other linux pc/mac forums wich is better to ask.

It's never to late :-)

Good, you should. Well it depends what GUI envirement you want. There are two userfriendly envirements, Gnome (Looks like MAC OS) and KDE (more MS windows look).

Ubuntu, Kubunt, fedora, SUSE (or what it's named now) is a good start. It's a debian based distro.

Ubunutu uses Gnome as GUI and Kubuntu use KDE as GUI (you can run both KDE and Gnome on both of them but you have to install it then),

www.kubuntu.org or www.ubuntu.com fedoraproject.org www.suse.org (?)

ubuntuforums is a great forum to read about HOWTO. Good luck.

dont think so, dont remember. Read at the distribuition web site you choose to check it out.

Yes, you can run both linux and windows on your computer, even more :-). You get a choice at boot wich one to start.

good luck, please do nor use this thread about this, this thread is meant for linux on handhelds.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] CWKJ:
Ok. Thanks.

After I am successful with my PC, my Uni will be next? :D

Come on, must encourage more users.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ferret-Simpson:
AHAHAHAHAH! YEEEEEEEEEEEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know that SDIO can't be done, right? People have been trying for years. There's also some legal restriction.

Still, you're on the home run now!! All that's left of critical hardware support is the flash and phone. How are they coming? :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
http://source.mvista.com/~dsingleton/sdio

Only the asic3 SDHC driver is missing, all its registers are documented.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
The flash is not completed, and needs to get more info about it. But the phone is working. But we still need a phone applocation. Openmoko-dialer is still buggy and secfaults while running.

There are someone woring on a phone app for OpieII, and i'll cretae a image when it is useable.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ferret-Simpson:
OH MY GODS. O.O
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ferret-Simpson:
Thats good news! :)

Just thought of an interesting Q:

The GPRS and UMTS Data connections work now. What about video calls and UMTS voice calls? Is the how-to on that public knowledge, as is the code lists for GSM phone calling? That's going to need major incorporation into whatever dialing program is built, and from an early stage of development.

I assume Gommunicator is fairly dead? I've not seen an update on it in a year.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
I think H.264 codec is used for the data, but don't know the details.

See also:

http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia2.2/html/phonelibrary.html

Below is the expected AT command communication between Qtopia
and the modem for successful outgoing and incoming video calls.

Outgoing:
AT+CBST=134,1,0
OK
ATD<number>
OK
CONNECT 64000
<video data follows>

Incoming:
+CRING: ASYNC
ATA
CONNECT 64000
<video data follows>
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rusha:
Good to see this project is still going strong.

I've just tried the latest (as far as I can see) here: http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/ and, unfortunately, my touch screen on the Universal doesn't work with any of them.

Is there anything I can do to find out why this isn't working? Is it likely to be my rom versions etc. or is this an issue with builds themselves?

Any advice appreciated.

Russ
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rusha:
As a quick follow up: hard resetting the device cured the issue.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
The touchscreen won't work if you have the wifi (Wireless Networking) enabled in Windows at the time you boot into linux. The bug is documented at: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalBugs
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rusha:
Oh I see. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm not sure how I missed that!

Does booting up without wifi enabled thus prevent wifi from working within Linux?

Russ
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
Personally (using the images available at the moment (ie 2.6.20-hh4)) I have never gotten wifi to work.

I have managed to tell it to "Activate Wifi", but the applet tends to die after that...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
How to get wifi working, doesnt mather wich image you are using

Open console or terminal

modprobe acx

If you have dhcp enabled in your AP it should automaticly connect to your AP.

If it doesnt connect you can also after modprobe acx do :

ifup wlan0

To stop wifi just do:

ifdown wlan0 && modprobe -r acx

PS. the wifi applet in GPE/x11 doesnt work at the momen.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ferret-Simpson:
So you just send the control info to the USB phone instead of the serial phone. I guess that makes sense.

I think it's about time I had a go at booting linux - It looks to be better supported on here now than on my (Originally linux based) Zaurus Poodle.

Phone contract runs out on the 21st of August. At which point I'll probably have a spare handset (A HTC Universal. . . hehehe) to play with.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lucagraph:
[help]no kernel works on my htc Universal

Hi everybody,

i'm new to this forum. I'm trying to install linux on my Universal: Ramdisk works well, but the other kernel version of opie, gpe, openmoko bootloader (the bzImage into .cab file) go on saying "kernel panic - not syncing: attempt to kill init". This with kernel 2.6.12, 2.6.16, and current.

Some row before it says:

mmc0: problem switching card into high-speed mode!

Could my sd too big (2GB)?

I don't know what else to do...the partitions are ok..

some help?

(sorry for my english

Bye

Luca
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BigDamHero:
Hi,

I'm still getting frequent drop outs on WiFi even after limiting it to 1M. It'll work for some time but if i transfer a lot of data i have to kill it and bring it back up before it works again.

Is anyone else having this problem..or is it on my end?

thanks

Lewis
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
No thats the same as I. I guess everyone has that problem. The acx is unstable. I dont know if it is only on universal, or if it also affect other devices suplied with acx100.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Francois TABURET:
Re: WiFi Pb

I have been using linux on Universal for several months and and i am facing the WiFi/acx instability from the beginning.

- No problem when throughput is "low": i can keep a ssh session with the htc running for several days. Browsing the web is also OK, even viewing a small mpeg video (5MB) is OK.

- Transferring a large file over ssh with scp always triggers the problem, but i found a way to recover and to prevent the session to be closed:

When the problem occurs, i just open the network configuration applet, enter the Wlan0 configuration form and press OK, just as if i modified something in the configuration (but i didn't).

Then the transfer usually recovers after a few seconds.

This way i have been able to copy large files (like ipkg files) from/to my HTC Universal over WiFi and I have an opened ssh session with my HTC/Universal which has been running for several weeks.

Of course an acx driver fix would be better..... I never got enough time to look at it, may be this summer if nobody fixes it before.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BigDamHero:
Yes!, exactly the same here

I'll have to give this a try - its ipkg files that are the main problem. I can kill the wifi (modprobe-r acx) and then bring it back up again, but the session won't resume.

If that works it'll be a great help. thanks!

Lewis
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bushako:
Can anyone give me an insight on linux

hi...i just have a few questions before i can start using linux on my Device

1) Is it possible to run both linux and wm6.0 OS on my device without eliminating either one of them?

2) How many different linux rom are there( if it is a rom image) and which one is the most preffered one and having the least bugs in it?

3) If i do install the linux how will my device be able to communicate with my PC runnning on windows xp( do you require a program similar to active sync)?

4) whats the advantage of linux over the Win CE?

I would search the answers but i wouldnt know where to start and this is completely new to me, any help will greatly be appreciated...:)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
1) Yes. You use WM to boot linux from your SD card. If you reset the device (ie just a soft reset) then your back in WM. Then you can boot into linux (if you want).... etc

2) The linux ROMs are pretty different from each other, but its more personal choice then stability and bugs. AFAIK the different 'ROMs' are just different window managers for the same kernel\core apps

3) Again, AFAIK, it cannot. I do know that OPIE can interface with Linux (multisync has a plugin), but I'm not sure if Windows can... I'd say no

4) At the moment, nothing. The linux for the Universal is an Alpha, that is, it is not designed for everyday use and is still _very_ buggy. For instance (in the current Kernel version available):

Phone can barely make calls, but really can't recieve them

You can only activate wifi if your comfortable with using a Command Line (its not many commands - but a GUI lover may find it intimidating)

SD cards are not hot-swappable (and may not be for a while, seeing as Linux is booting off them...)

Plus these bugs

4.5) Why will Linux be better? Because:

Its Open-Source (ie Completely free and the developers\maintainers have access to the code - allowing them to fix bugs)

It will have a repository of useful, Open Source, programs (which may be small, but will certainly grow)

Its Linux :P

(I'd put more into the list of good things, but I'm a little sleep deprived - so I'm sure GoxBoxLive (or another Linux fanatic) can give you more reasons...)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bushako:
Hey Tehpenguin

Thanks alot for the insight...i love the fact that its possible to run both the OS...and also that you mentioned its an open source...a very good advantage over the WInCE...considering that i think im going to start installing it when i get back home hehe..cant wait.:) ...and thanks again...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Timeshell:
Flash to Linux ROM

Since the device is flashable, any comments on how far the work has gone into flashing it with a Linux ROM, so that, for example, the SD card can be swappable or just to have more usuable memory.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bushako:
hey tehpenguin

I did exactly as the instruction of booting linux on my universal

except i get stuck in the 1st few procedure wer you have to type the login as root and paa as rootme

Heres how it is, ii install the Ramdisk.cab file and run it from the program folder on the Phone memory not SD. after the linux gets booted a black screen appears and some process going on and in the end it asks me to type in Familiar LOGIN and i typed in root and then it asks for password but whhen i type nothing appears...can you help me out...i really dnt knw what to do here. your help will be appreciated...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
Thats just Linux....

You know how, in Windows, when you type your password little *'s or circles appear instead of what you are typing? Well, in Linux, they replace what you are typing with spaces (ie " ") - thats whay you don't see it being typed in.

Just type in "rootme" then press enter

(Man that felt weird - in Australia "root" has sexual connotations - so saying "root me" to someone....)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] DaVince:
Hey.. I got friends coming over from AU.. I'll try that "root me" thing on 'em hahaha :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bushako:
hey thanks again mate..anyways il try that out but before i do, i got another question..i noted down the process at the end after i had booted linux and before the Familiar login appeared and id like to know what this all about

Starting portmap daemon.

Starting PCMCIA services:touch: /var/run/pcmcia-scheme: No such file or directory

Module directory/lib/modules/2.6.12-hh2-xda0-un0/pcmcia not found.

Familiar login: root

Password:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
We dont have PCMCIA on Universal, but the Ramdisk image is an old blueangel image wich is suplied with PCMCIA, so that's why it asks for it. But it doesnt mather, since we dont have it it wouldnt use it. And since the ramdisk image is just for creating the linux filesystem we just use the old blueangel one instead of making a new one (But just so you know, it's a lot easier and faster to make the filesystem using a linux computer rather than the Universal. Just use a Linux Live cd.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] bushako:
ahm..ive downloaded several of the linux kernels and so far the only one was working and the rest of them such as the openmoko,gpe and arnstrong when i boot them up they get stuck half way through loading. i have carried out the intructions exactly...for the reference im using a 2gb dane elec SD card and i have partioned it and made a 1.3gb for vfat and the rest for linux(ext3 filesystem)...im not sure if thats enough storage for the linux...any help will be appreciated:)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Gpe, Gpephone, x11 and Openmoko use some time to boot linux for the first time. The Kernel zImage for the diffrents images are equal.

The reason they use so long time for the first boot is because they updating some mime types and it exports some gnome-vfs plugins.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] linuxhat:
Installing Linux on Universal - Help!

Hello everyone,

I have the following problem:

I'm trying to install linux on Jasjar (Universal) and I'm following this tutorial:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalHowtoInstallLinux

After the log-in part, and after doing the following:

fdisk /dev/mmc/blk0/disc

I got the following error message:

Unable to open /dev/mmc/blk0/disc

I've tried to format the card as suggested by "bushako" but I got the same error.

Any ideas?

Thanks ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] afbcamaro:
Great Work!!

Quick questions..

Does the openmoko image run natively or over opie?

The images on the site say hh4 but current development is up to h12, any differences?

Do you guys have a location where I can get the current bleeding edge editions that you are working on? A temp or upload folder?

Thank you for your time, and guys this is truly most excellent work! I will be getting a Neo1973 as soon as it comes out and saw your current development work and that it is functional on the Universal so I just bought one... Again thank you all for your efforts, truly the work of geniuses.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
There is no openmoko image running over opie or any other gui env. The Openmoko image is a standalone image wich let you run Openmoko on your universal.

There is a Opie(1)-image i have added openmoko dialer too, but that runs with help from Xqt2.

AFAIR the latest images i made for download is 2.6.20-hh4. Today kernel 2.6.21-hh13 exist, there has been a lot of changes in the kernel tree but not much for HTC Universal. I will make new images soon, but hasent gone far yet. As matter of fact theuniversal kernel doesnt compile now after som changes in the kernel tree, so cr2 has to fix that before i upload some new images. I think he will be away for over a month now, so i wouldnt be able to make new images before he is back.

No

I have actually also made a Openmoko-image with Openmoko as distribution. I think i will use Opnemoko distributions for Openmoko and Angstrom for the rest of them.

Have also made a Opie image with Openmoko as distribution but i couldent see any effort with it.

I'll post when i have made some new ones. I think the next image i will upload is a O.P.I.E-II image. And maybe with a working phone application.

ps. i also orderd a FIC phone, dont know why because most of the hardware isent as good as on Universal, but what heck, i can try getting O.P.I.E-II on it :-) ..
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
thanks goxboxlive

Thanks for your work. I can't wait to get my fingers on the openmoko distribution image, you where telling about in your last post.

Regarding the FIC Neo phone, I guess the hardware is not as bad for the realy small price full documented hardware. I also read something about new hardware revisions or new phones from FIC in the near future for the openmoko project. It seems, the next hardware releases will be richer in there feature list :`)

But for now, I am watching the progress of HTC on building the Omni device as direct replacement of Universal ... for me this would be a better choice then Athena.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] afbcamaro:
Does the openmoko image run natively or over opie?

HAHAHA I just realised what I said. LOL

I mean to say something else.

The Fic phone will be out on October with the consumer grade revision. Will include a 400mhz samsung GPS, WIFI, Bluetooth 2.0, graphic acceleration :-).. so everything except a camera.... Inside information :-) Ill let you know when it will be available exactly
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
This device naming scheme was used by 'devfs' and is not used

for quite some time. The wiki page should be corrected.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
+5 :D :D :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
I think it is the ramdisk image that he has the problem with, and that image includes kernel and modules form the .12-xanadux tree.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
And how does it relate to the comparable HTC hardware ?

wifi over the SPI channel does not sound like a high-performance solution ;-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
ok, but seems that a replacement image is wanted by many other people too.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
I dont see the need of it. I just cant see that a new ramdisk image will help people with sd cards that isent accepted by Linux. This images is just for making linux filesystem on the cards. Actually the easiest way and fastest way to do this is to boot a computer with a linux live cd and make the filesystem.

There are still some SD cards that doesnt work with recent kernel, i dont know wich cards but i have heard people reported back that their SD card isent working.

Didnt you have the same problem with one of your cards?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Hi.

There arent that much diffrents, actually the Openmoko distribution is older than the Angstrom, it's actually based on Angstrom. And you wouldnt get the Openmoko bootsplash, it's not included. I have no idea why.

Yes absolutely, it will include WIFI and it will have a faster cpu (400MHz). But they say that it will hit the massmarket in September, but i dont belive it will. So thats why i bought this pre release phone.

I c, i have no idea wich phone that is, there has been so many HTC phones now that i have lost the overview of it.

I let you know when i have a openmoko image finished. It's building now, but i have to test it before uploading it.

It wil not be uploaded to gnulinux.biz, i will only upload it to our new hosting place, www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa .
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
New updated images added

Some new and updated images added

Following images has been updated/added

OPIE with kernel 2.6.21-hh14

x11/GPE with kernel 2.6.21-hh14

and i have added a new image wich requires a little preparation before starting it. Read the README file in the download folder.

O.P.I.E-II with kernel 2.6.21-hh14

Remember, this might break your device running this images, i am not responsable if something breaks. I just do this for fun, and i dont see the point of not sharing this.

*** USE AT YOUR OWN RISC ***

The images is uploaded to www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa

have fun :-)

ps. no cab installer this time, i just do that with images wich have major updates.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
You've uploaded the images, but the links in the 'Universal' section still point to the old ROMs on the old site
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] maxstegi:
Look here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Try refershing the cache in your browser . As i wrote, not all images are updated, only x11/GPE - OPIE and O.P.I.E-II
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Yes, Opie is fast, that's why i still make the Opie images.

Also try out O.P.I.E-II is also fast (it's a little slow at the beginning, but speeds up after a minutte or two, it builds it's database)

I cant see that i have the sam problem, mine is after calibration moving over to the log in screen.

The htcuniversal_defconfig is a little outdated now, and misses some power management stuff, so i am not using that one.

The htcuniversal_static_defconfig have i never used. I just tried it once and my kernel wouldnt boot with it so i made a conbination of hx4700_ststic_defconfig and htcuniversal_defconfig.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
The images appear to have bugs:

I tried to get wireless working by typing:

modprobe acx

But it came back with:

FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.20-hh4/modules.dep: No such file or directory

I suspect that a config file was left unchanged...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Seems like you are using the old kernel zImage. Did you replace the old one with the new one i uploaded together with the GUI images.

You just cant use the old 2.6.20-hh4 kernel zImage together with 2.6.21-hh14 modules. That's why i am allways upload a kernel zImage together with an GUI image (opie/x11 and so).

Just rename the http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/ht...-hh14+cvs20070728-htcuniversal-20070728183956 to zImage and edit your startup.txt and set zImage instead of zImage-2.6.20-hh4 or whatever you have in it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] TehPenguin:
Thanks - that worked great

I was wondering what the zImage was for....

(ps. Is there a wiki entry I could read up on?)