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[Xperia SP General] MagicMagicD:
According to Xperia Update Checker .201 is now available for T-Mobile UK branded phones. Not sure if it has any significance as far as the rest of the UK's customisations go but we can hope...
[Xperia SP General] Steph310:
Most important is a good rom!

Remember some phones worked better with JB than KK...

Now, I really love my SP with last eXistenZ rom (waiting black edition update) and Xperia M camera mod V2 :good:

Sent from my Xperia SP eXistenZ Black Edition
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
To tell you the truth I'm really past caring now. I flashed another region Rom but too hit and miss and three wouldn't help me because our want official so went back to 4.1.2. Really only need the phone for 4g because I tether with it so as long as I get that then I'm not bothered.
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
Others are speculating..

If you don't care whether you get it or not, you can simply ignore "what you already know", rather than CLOGGING UP the forum with your 'opinion'/'how you feel' posts. (Remember..? your COMPLAINT was that!). LOL.

Well.. It clarified for me the official stance ("under investigation" ) of Sony. They WON'T answer when/whether kitkat will come, since the new build is being tested. (It's not a ".. yes we are getting our no we are not.." kind of statement as you understood). If you already knew it, why don't you help others who are still asking/speculating/petitioning, rather than doing self appointed thread-police work here?
[Xperia SP General] Looser99:
So why provide an update which the phone can't handle ? It's so not like Apple ! Apple is all about smoothness and compatibility, right ? My gf's iphone 4s lags like hell when playing subway surfers. Even Sony Xperia U handles that game smoothly. And it's only 13k in my country whereas iphone 4s is still 40K !!! Sounds like a ****ty joke, huh ? :eek:
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I never had lag problem with iPhones, except iPhone 4..

Actually by keeping the price high you can sell it in a higher price than you could sell an android device, and then you can buy a newer model with less money or you could buy a high-end android device.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
So that post clarified it to you more than all the posts that state the same and also the official web page. Well maybe for the benefit of our slower members we need the posts to be duplicated in order for some to finally understand the position that has been told to others 4 weeks previous.

Just for your info under investigation states that Sony is testing and will advise after all testing is done wether the sp will get it or not. This is info posted on this thread around 5 Times and also other threads in the forum so hopefully the combined 10+ posts will clarify the situation for you and you won't need another person to email them just to ask the same question over and over as well as part the same answer over and over. All I was starting was that telling us kit Kat is under investigation is OLD news. A bit like New firmware version 4.1.2 just released is OLD news no need to keep posting about it IMO.
[Xperia SP General] mrhnet:
I know that. That's what I posted. If you already knew it, why get annoyed? There are others who don't know this are still asking when/whether we'll get it? Posting correct info is better than posting endless speculation burying the correct info deep in the forum. There's nothing more to discuss about this.
[Xperia SP General] Cawts:
Ok has anyone else experienced bad lag with the latest UK update?

---------- Post added at 04:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ----------

The battery life seems to suck too.
[Xperia SP General] MagicMagicD:
The latest Generic UK update is still 12.0.A.2.254 (JB 4.1) according to Xperia Update Checker. Only Vodafone and T-mobile have a 4.3 update in the UK and of those, only T-mobile has the latest release 12.1.A.1.201, Vodafone is still showing the buggy .266 update.

Which carrier are you with?
[Xperia SP General] Cawts:
Am with Orange / T-Mobile, got the 201 update this morning, really not impressed, lots of added junk, lots of lag and appears to half battery life.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Did you do all the usual clearing of caches and try a repair??
[Xperia SP General] Cawts:
Sure did. :(
[Xperia SP General] MagicMagicD:
Did you try a reset using SUS?

I'd be surprised if T-mob managed to bork what for most seems to be a good update just by adding their bloatware...
[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
Should I update to new version? I already have lags, force close down, and black screen, i cant lose a lot? Except my battery life is same as before and i read somewhere it now worse than before? Thank you
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Are you on the 266 build? If so update... the .201 is better :) (my opinion)
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
i'm contacting sony now let's see what they say

EDIT: this is what they say about it: View attachment 2483830
[Xperia SP General] CaptJunior:
how will i update to 4.3 with unlocked bootloader ?
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
You will get .ftf files soon here on xda once the update is released.you can flash it with flashtool
[Xperia SP General] CaptJunior:
but will the update come before the end of 2013 ? and i tried to relock my bootloader one time and it said your bootloader cannot be unlocked officially after i already unlocked it
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
this is my response from sony chat suppport everyone: View attachment 2483833
[Xperia SP General] saif1012:
Please post a clearer picture!
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
how is it not clear enough?? just press the image to make it larger man atleast on a PC

EDIT that's weird for everyone the image isn't clear enough :/ wait a sec i'll upload it to google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxO67ahQXmynaHFPZVI1MElyRnc/edit?usp=sharing

i hope that's better
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Not visible on tapatalk.

Better you tell us what sony support told;)

Worked.downloaded the pic
[Xperia SP General] saif1012:
It's given the rollout has started! :D
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Xperia T and V got their updates certified on PTCRB.. So according to the update pattern, 4.3 for SP should roll out already... But it doesn't ;/

Xperia SP@Tapatalk 2
[Xperia SP General] wiidbzxt:
Xperia T and V got 4.3 certification. http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/3...-0-276/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

EDIT: Beat me to it for seconds. Anyways, there's the link in case someone want to read more.

And guys, relax, you're sticking and being disappointed due to speculation of a software release date.
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
They said that rollout of updates for models, that haven't had an update yet, has started, so we can have the update any time soon.
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
If the rollout has started,how come no1 has received it yet?
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
maybe the server is not working properly or they are just trolling us...
[Xperia SP General] pakatsui:
Another opportunity is that the servers are still on high load from the Xperia L update, so they had to delay the SP update a bit.
[Xperia SP General] wiidbzxt:
I honestly think they just gave you a quick reply, since all they might know is that the release was supposed to start on December.
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
yeah there's a big chance that happend of course they don't want there server to completly die
[Xperia SP General] ZakooZ:
Giving a low end device get priority on updates over a higher end 2013 device still running 4.1 #justsonythings
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
It would be nice if Sony gave us some more information. The only things we know:

- The update comes this month

- The last build has been certified 23/12/13 (a week ago)

At the moment it is 31 december in some places (in about 4 hours also here in Holland too) so if Sony provides the update tomorrow it will be a last minute one :silly:

Thats it. Altho it is still not 31 december 23:59 pm it is not fair from Sony to provide the update last minute.

But who am I to talk about it.
[Xperia SP General] vieose:
It's not about device specs, its more about marketing.

Flagships first, than high end spec devices, than that device with the most users if the spec is high enough and at least other devices.

We are probably the other devices.

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[Xperia SP General] NestorC:
Yes, i forgot to say it, i am on 266 :)

Thank you, I will back up it now :)
[Xperia SP General] xiangli:
My region is iran c5302, may I flash Indian version? Will cause any problems?
[Xperia SP General] kaushal9119:
Yeah sure you can....it wont cause any problems.
[Xperia SP General] binniebin:
I bought Moto G, then unlocked Bootloader, root + faux kernel and device is much faster than my SP on last existenz. Xperia got better GPU but whole UI response and multitasking is much better on Moto! Bye bye Sony after month of using horrible slow IO

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[Xperia SP General] klacenas:
Always enjoyed reading this thread. A variety of human characters are being displayed whether it's a couple of direct to the point phrases or a lenghty but sometimes pointless pharagraps. And here's my take regarding this topic. People was yelling about 4.3, while some waited patiently. Then Sony delivered what they promised. Now people are yelling for Kk, while some are again patiently waiting... AND I THINK SONY WILL AGAIN DELIVER...
[Xperia SP General] Charlles M:
Waiting Kit Kat
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
You are right because we are humans and we need more everytime even everything looks great
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Check Xperia Blog, Sony Announced that

SP won't be receiving the much awaited Kitkat Update

., they probably just forgot to update the site.

Get yer' pockets ready to buy an new phone
[Xperia SP General] pec0ra:
Seeing your message people at Sony must be celebrating ! It worked ! They won't release kitkat just for people to buy new phones and people are so dumb and well manipulated by our capitalism that they will !

The best part is that not only Sony does this, all big manufacturers do this. So no person now changing to htc or Samsung is a problem because at the same time someone is switching to Sony because htc, Samsung or another didn't release an update.
[Xperia SP General] PhonerX:
Stop spreading this nonsense. There is no official statement from Sony and they have not announced anything. All we have is a word from some guy in France on 1st April.
[Xperia SP General] ongkhel:
Agreed! Even though we don't get kitkat update it's ok for me. as long i use my phone as i want and fix some minor bugs. It doesn't mean SP won't get kitkat update you need to buy a new one or latest phone??? That's %$*(!# :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] juliomb179:
Xperia Blog, is not an official site from Sony.

It is better to wait for a response from official sites
[Xperia SP General] Rui Oliveira 21:
Yes, we should wait, but with a 6month flagship cycle I wouldn't expect good news, and saying this I'm really sad, Xperia SP is a really good device, and I like it almost as much as my Z1,:rolleyes:
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Who buys a new phone because there is no official 4.4 update these days? Why did ya join XDA then? go install a custom rom and enjoy.

EDIT: you do realize that the blog post is made on april 1st and that it might be a joke?
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
Try to install newest firmware, when you can't unlock your bootloader -_-

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[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
Not the newest firmware but there are a number of stable cm 4.3 roms out there for LBL and they are probably working on 4.4
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
Like I said, I'm not saying XSP won't be receiving Kitkat but it is highly probable it won't recieve it

besides when you buy a Sony Phone always have cash ready...they always update the flagships if you don't agree to that get a Nexus Device....or buy a Sony Flagship phone
[Xperia SP General] quetzalcoatl2435:
...or, you know, enjoy using your phone and stop worrying about updates that might/might not come...
[Xperia SP General] binniebin:
There are two roms from same devs without any update for 3 weeks, as they use stock kernel, they can got same bugs like on other stock based roms like freezing touch response and other known issues.

Can't tell that 4.4 release will be bugless, as. 201 isn't much better.

This device got nice SoC but multitasking doesnt work good, is a matter of used memory chips.

Now switched to that on my signature and works great!

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[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
at least it's better than nothing! xD
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Moto G is a nice device except on one part:

- No SD..... :|
[Xperia SP General] @non4:
Yeah, I bought my sp recently and it was this or moto g. I've tried them and they're nice, but as a game hoarder no SD was a deal breaker

Sent while my supervisor wasn't looking
[Xperia SP General] Revontheus:
When I said a "Google Device" I did not mean the cheap Moto G...I was thinking of the Nexus 5 :/ well what sucks with Google Devices is battery life ( 2300mAh ) and it has no SD Card slot so you're forced to buy the 32 GB variant which costs somewhat more expensive
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
What does red colour mean on ptcrb website???? When.i saw it yesterday it was blue now its red???
[Xperia SP General] ohmygel:
Can you post the link?
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
From PM Sony Xperia Dev team :(

Bad news guys
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Without official news from Sony via blog etc. I should take this news a bit less dramatic...

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[Xperia SP General] Levered:
this from internal source...if you dont believe..up to you...

btw this very bad news...
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Well it has been said only to you.. I honestly dont believe everything via Sony mail and support

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[Xperia SP General] Levered:
{UPDATES}

---------- Post added at 09:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 AM ----------

Yup same what you think dont believe sony support

but i want to say this from Project Manager SW SONY MOBILES

i have already contact with sony mobile development...like kernel architecture, sw manager etc

---------- Post added at 09:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------

Updates: Sony dont have any plans for xperia sp for now...but KK to xperia sp still under investigation

Thank you
[Xperia SP General] smogf:
SP will not recieve KK update.

After releasing 4.3 status of 4.4 turn to _Under Investigation_ which means - You can forget'bout that fools.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
You can think yourself
[Xperia SP General] Rui Oliveira 21:
I dont think it'll get kit kat also.

Xperia Sp could be awsome, if it had kk
[Xperia SP General] Androidkeeda:
Yeah.... Even samsumg s3 is getting kitkat in the end of may as it was 2 years old and still Samsung supports that product... And here SP couldn't get support even till its 1st anniversary

Akash B)
[Xperia SP General] st3ch:
there are many devices still on 4.1..can't imagine having KK without rooting and unlocking
[Xperia SP General] mick232:
I agree - "under investigation" is just a way to avoid a firm statement and prevent a ****storm, but the decision has been made. That is how it works, folks.
[Xperia SP General] *-MaCK-*:
FXP 315 CM 11.0 works fine on my SP. KK it is! :laugh:
[Xperia SP General] binniebin:
I have locked bootloader and it's unlockable so there's no taste of 4.4

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[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
you meant NOT unlockable. Just like mine :silly::silly:
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
So much bad ... :C

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[Xperia SP General] Draqula:
SIII was top of the line device, SP is just midrange.
[Xperia SP General] donk165:
Does anyone have any news on the 4.3 update for UK users? We didn't get 266, probably because it was too buggy, but 201 has been out for a while now, and according to Xperia update checker, we are still on 254.

I'm getting poor performance on existenz and I want to go to full stock but really wish we had an official 4.3 version for generic/customised UK
[Xperia SP General] vite74:
Flash the Central Europe 1, it's almost debloated and works great..

It's just a suggestion..

Cheers.
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Apparently Tmobile/Orange/EE have it now but still no generic UK. If you dont like existenz performance prepare for the awfulness that is stock 4.3 .201. Try the CH version if you want to see how bad it is.

Perhaps you should try the CM10.2 for LBL as thats great performance.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
I used the generic Schweiz rom and apart from having to use the settings from the 3 UK page for the APN settings to get 4g it is an absolute dream. Not experienced any lag at all. I have all the same apps I had on. 4.1.2 and have a bit more free ram. My 4G works great and I no longer have flickering bug I had on. 4.1.2 and have not experienced any of the bugs others talk about.
[Xperia SP General] fsyh95:
no bugs in 192?
[Xperia SP General] otana_uk:
I agree with sco0ter on this one. I was also on generic UK - I got frustrated with waiting and flashed the CH Swiss stock rom from this forum - and my phone is now super smooth, with no lag or flickering bugs, etc. 4.3 is a lot nicer than 4.1.2.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
UK generic version is out now.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
is 4.3 lag free and smooth?

LOL guys, it looks like you don't know how a smooth phone looks like
[Xperia SP General] sp4ubw:
Hahahaha :) nice joke :)
[Xperia SP General] xEaGLeNeC:
hell no. stick with 4.1.2 for the best lag free perfomance.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Maybe you broke your phone but the 4.3 is definitely better than crap constant redrawing 4.1.2. Just because some here can't get it to work correctly doesn't mean we all have problems. Hell I've even had people tell me the flickering bug is hardware only and no software update will fix it when it did for me. Maybe different batches\models of phones have different sourced components therefore different problems but this update is better than. 4.1.2 for my UK version phone and I have it loaded with the exact same apps as was on 4.1.2 and its excellent and no redraws or flickering big at all
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
Actually both firmwares suck balls, 4.1 because of bad ram managment and wifi problems and 4.3 because of lag lag lag lag lag..Screen flickering wasn't a bug in 4.1 but it's a bug in some 4.3 stock roms like the greek one, I am totally sure it's not a hardware problem.Maybe it lags because we may have more apps than you do, and trust me I have the same apps i had on my previous phone but I didn't ever got any UI lag(!)..maybe when sony release a lag free firmware you'll see how it is a lag-free experience.
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
I had really bad screen flickering on 4.1 also crap lock screen bug. 4.1 would lag badly when home screen button was pressed until it did the redraw thing all things that have disappeared with the update and now I also get 4G. Another Thing 4.1 couldn't do
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I didn't have any flickering problem on 4.1..but I have on 4.3..hardware problem? I don't think so..

I had 4G on both firmwares :p
[Xperia SP General] autentiknolep:
Obviusly 4.1.2 was good at least for me I had good Ram management only some redraws but wifi signal sucked, on 4.3 I'm very happy its Ram is great! At least for me ñ.ñ I had lag-free phones before too and believe me this is lag free too now I'm quite happy and flickering bug? Hahaha I've never had it.before,.not.even now, I can have it only if I want, and I want just for increasing benchmark results at least what I do is adding to build.prop this line: 'debug.egl.swapinterval=0' it really flickered screen sometimes but increased a lot benchmarking :3

Seriusly Im happy with my SPlendid low-cost SuperSmartPhone
[Xperia SP General] antoyn:
If you need fluency, fast app launching speed,then go for cm11 then activate ART runtime
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Is it still under investigation?
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
Why don't you look yourself? Don't be lazy.
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
It will be forever under investigation...

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[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
There was no 4G access with 4.1 three UK constantly told me I would have to update to get it. The option was not even available to choose even using the service code and switching on from in there did nothing after upgrade it connected straight away. It was a member on another thread "did update fix flickering bug" that said it was hardware and not fixable
[Xperia SP General] MagicMagicD:
Doesn't look like it is, although all the other UK customisations now have it...
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
Downloaded it last night and flashed through Pcc which is now working fine on. Windows 8.1 woohoo
[Xperia SP General] otana_uk:
Just because your phone is laggy coz of whatever crap you've put on it - doesn't mean others have the same problem. I'm a developer and know exactly what a laggy UI is. .201 in my SP is not laggy. full stop.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Just to second your opinion. I have also used many flagship phones of my friends... Xperia sp on 201 is not laggy...

Know the limitations of Android. The lags many people complain here about are present on note 3, s4, z1c, and g2 as well. Sp doesn't have any thing extra ordinary to complain about.

Apart from neXus n motos, I don't think others are 100% stutter free. Plus, I haven't used them.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Why dont you look and say. Don't be lazy.
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
People like you will be spoon feed all day long. I don't support this.
[Xperia SP General] headache59:
+1

I have seen a couple of his posts recently in this forum, just waiting to be spoon fed...

Really a surprise, coming from an old member with a lot of posts and thank-meter...
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
1

You cant look at it in two ways.
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
alright, forget all the "crap" but tell me, after a ftf flashing or sus reinstall why first setup lags? you press the next button and you have to wait for 5 seconds until it moves..do you think that that's a smooth firmware?
[Xperia SP General] Rui Oliveira 21:
I experience the same thing and Ive tried everything.....:crying:
[Xperia SP General] niaboc79:
Why don't you do some searching...

Here's how android work after a fresh install:

- At first boot the Dalvik Cache is created, so it take time.

- Then when the phone has boot the Cache of system app is also created.

- Then when you are entering your google account information, the phone scan all apps to checked their version and start the updating.

- Also at first boot, the media scanner is reading all your images, mp3, ... More you have more time it takes.

All of this is done in the same time and consume resources.

Even an octo core, 64bits, 6Ghz with 18G of ram smartphone would do the same...
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I know how android works on the first boot but with 4.1 the first setup wasn't laggy..why?
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Do a fresh 4.1 it will do the same.... Plus 4.1 does not have protect butter n trim n many other features ....don't compare window xp with 7.

Try to understand.... Initial boot is initial.

After that, 4.3 works as smooth as anything out there if you are sensible user. Otherwise stay on whatever suits you, personal tastes....
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
What you mean by two ways? That's funny since I don't see the opposite ideas said by [MENTION=5738349]headache59[/MENTION]!

Also, being a senior member and is thanked by many, I don't see why you are doing this. You're on the level of XDA-Developers Noob because of this! :eek:
[Xperia SP General] sco0ter:
I experienced this flashing the. Swiss ftf with flashtool but no such lag when I flashed the UK version with Pcc last night. Maybe this is more to do with the tool than the firmware
[Xperia SP General] antkalaitzakis96:
I think UK firmwares are the best..4.1 UK ftf and no lag at first boot..do you have any 4.3 generic UK ftf?