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[Nexus 5 General] androidfish:
Working in a software company, I can imagine how this goes...

"Who wants to work on auto-awesome." - "Yay!"

"Who wants to work on photo-sphere." - "Yay!"

"Who wants to optimize the shutter lag." - "..."

Also, your lunch looks much nicer than my work canteen pizza :p
[Nexus 5 General] sureyoucan:
The same here, very surprised by picture quality in low light using HDR+ (for landscape mainly)... I mean im sure there are better cameras but for a phone im impressed

But i've a weird problem don't know if software or hardware but the camera app stay black screen when opened from the lock screen. it happened many times, i had to put my pin code kill the app and launch again to get the camera app working again.

Anyone got the same issue?
[Nexus 5 General] Stories:
As a result, it's turned my shots into unfocused poo :(

At least the shutterlag and slow focus should be fixable, though. I hope.

I'm not expecting Note 3-level of camera, but it'd be nice if we could have say... 70% of the Note 3's camera performance.
[Nexus 5 General] mobilehavoc:
Here's one I took and then used Snapseed. The hw is quite capable. https://plus.google.com/101858146614640675194/posts/1jwmHP58BUk
[Nexus 5 General] FunkyMagic-UK:
I'm finding the camera very usable with good results.

However, try using video mode and pinch to zoom. Does this cause Camera to freeze for seconds for others, either recovering eventually or crashing out?
[Nexus 5 General] blazeoc:
haha, I am about as unbiased as they come. I have all apple everything including an iPhone 5, macbook pro, apple tv's, Droid Maxx and now Nexus 5. I have no brand loyalty at all. Let me make myself clear to you, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE CAMERA OR THE QUALITY OF THE IMAGES THAT COME FROM IT.

I hope that is clears things up for you. And by the way, everything I said is my own opinion. I never said you didn't have issues, I said I wasn't having issues. As for the iVerge, that is pretty common knowledge.
[Nexus 5 General] Apolyxon:
Since you have those items, why don't you compare the camera shutter lag to those other phones?

You can always say that for you it's not a problem - and that might very well be as you say, but you'll never be able to deny that there might be people that want to capture "that moment" and with that lag it's just infeasible.

If your camera does not have any worse lag than say the iPhone 5s, please make a video so we can see for ourselves.
[Nexus 5 General] blazeoc:
I have no problem capturing the moment, but I am also a photographer as well so I have learned to anticipate.

Again, I don't need to make video's or prove to you, I have said FOR ME, I have ZERO issues with the camera. It is fine by me.
[Nexus 5 General] caribouxda:
Definitely needs to be fixed.
[Nexus 5 General] bloodrain954:
The shutter lag is insane for a phone with these specs. I used Camera FX and it's much better, but all the images come out very dark.
[Nexus 5 General] Apolyxon:
Look this thread is about issues with the Nexus 5's camera. What good are you doing when you tell people "It's not that bad guys! You just have to anticipate the 1-2 seconds lag, I learned it too!"

It's just ignorant to tell people there is no issue with the camera at all, because you yourself can work around the lag issue. You do see that this might annoy people, especially normal users?
[Nexus 5 General] blazeoc:
Look I never said it's not that bad guys, I am not saying there is no issue with the camera. If you read my statements over which I suggest you do, I said I, as in ME ONLY, was not having any issues with the camera. I never said it was not that bad, or you have to anticipate.

I said I have learned to do it when needed. I don't have lag issues.

What you need to focus your attention on is the fact that I am saying I in all my posts. I never said anyone else was wrong or not allowed to have their opinion.

Anyways I am done arguing this with you, I have stated what I feel is my opinion on the phone regarding the camera. Sorry that upsets you so much that I don't agree with you.
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
Hmmmm I don't agree, The Verge does love Apple but they criticize them too... they said IOS & was stale, they hate the IOS 7 icons, and on their Kit Kat review they said "KitKat is simply a stunningly good operating system that feels every bit as up-to-date and modern as iOS 7, if not more so" , they love the Nexus 7 just as much as the new ipad mini retina so don't try to discredit them so easily

The camera was plenty fast, but maybe that was the reason why the photos were so damn awful? maybe google tried to find a balance between speed and quality and they decided to sacrifice speed?
[Nexus 5 General] cyburke:
i love android devices - have owned and rooted many - and got my N5 yesterday in the mail.. so far i've been saddened by the camera quality (or lack thereof) along with the not-so-eye-popping screen.

if you look at the specs for the iSight camera on the iPhone you can notice right away some glaring features which are missing from the setup on the N5.. no burst mode, no slow motion videos, no dynamic lighting adjustments during panos, and of course - no dual flash on the hardware side.

completely understand that this is a phone with an entirely different price point, but i'm just surprised that after all google has learned that the camera would not have been a tremendously huge focus for them - on the hardware side of things.

features like "auto awesome" on G+ are really cool, but that's all post processing **** done by google servers.

$.02 / soapbox
[Nexus 5 General] ChrisM75:
The camera is a little slow but for me the main issue is that images seem to be rather dark. Im sure they will improve it with time, cameras seem to be the one thing that benefits from software changes over the life of a phone, indeed the HTC One camera is now unrecognisable from how it was at launch.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
I initially thought the Verge was showing bias, but after using the phone for a few days now, I have to agree that the camera does have some issues.

It can be very slow to focus. It can also fail to focus at all, as it hunts and gets it totally wrong.

The flash is exceptionally bright and saves the day a lot of the time in low light, but if you use the native camera software then chances are you're going to be disappointed, or at the very least have to keep trying over and over to get a great shot (and if that's of people, they'll a) be annoyed and b) not have a very good impression of the phone!).

But, as I bought Camera 360 for other Android phones, I thought I'd give it a try... and, boy, what a difference. Of course, it can still get the focus wrong every now and then, but the results you can get now are stunning. I'm looking at some photos and thinking that, on occasion, it's up there with a Lumia 925 or Xperia Z.

Turn off the flash and you suddenly see the sensor is pretty awesome in low-light too.

In fact, everything changes and I'd really recommend people give the app a try (I presume there's a trial version still) before writing off the camera.. although it will just make you hope even more that Google does something soon. Much as I like Camera 360 for all the things it can do, I find it unnecessarily complicated for simple point-and-shoot scenarios.
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
The camera can take nice pictures, but it's slow to open, slow to take the pictures, slow or sometimes almost impossible to get it to focus :/ , it's ridiculous, the pictures do turn out better using HDR+ that was a nice surprise, on the down side, the camera (unsurprisingly) takes longer to take the pictures while using HDR+ :crying:

I took this picture today (using HDR+) it looks nice but it took me quite a few tries, the camera was refusing to focus :/
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
The shutter lag on the camera is terrible and I hope Google fixes it soon. If you are trying to take a picture of anything that has the ability to move, i.e kids, you will never capture the moment unless they are pretending to be a statue.

Some people like to take pictures of more then just flowers and buildings.

As far as people complaing about focusing issue, you might already know this but if you do not, if you click on the screen what you want to focus on it will lock in pretty quick. Waiting for it to decide on it's own often leads to wasting to much time.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Try another camera app, like Camera360. I'm certain you can get better photos before Google fixes it.
[Nexus 5 General] onmike:
No slow autofocus for you or lag after you take pics?
[Nexus 5 General] phillipm:
Am I the only one who doesn't have problems with focus? Seems fast to me.
[Nexus 5 General] bobalias:
I agree with the consensus that the amount of shutter lag present is completely unacceptable. It's not a fraction of a second, it's a full 1-2 seconds or worse, on occasion. That by itself would be bad enough, but what's worse is that much of the time it doesn't seem to find the correct focus point either. This is particularly true for closer subjects or darker settings. The images simply aren't focused properly, though they're close. I'm not expecting DSLR levels of tack sharpness here, but I at least expect the edges of things on a table in front of me to not be blurry.

What makes me hopeful is that this *should* all be fixable in software. The camera actually takes very respectable shots outside during the day when it can get the focus right, and the brightness levels in night/indoor shots are worlds better and far less noisy than my previous Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
still seems to take long. I tried Camera Zoom fx which looks to take a quicker picture but looks like there is a lighting issue they need to fix for 4.4. I think i will give that one a try again when they update.

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Then you do not have anything to compare it to.
[Nexus 5 General] miczk:
Did Nexus 4 allow people to take shots in 16:9 resolution?

4:3 makes me angry since every display has widescreen...
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
Nop, 4:3 too , it stills puzzles me to this day :eek: i want 16:9 too :crying:
[Nexus 5 General] ravage485:
Stop that, you are making me hungry
[Nexus 5 General] cyburke:
i preface by saying that i love Google / Android etc - but the camera on this phone is a JOKE.

now sure there might be an update coming along to help things out, but this camera really is sub-par in comparison to some of the other top dogs out there. i live in Los Angeles and so most everyone has an iPhone. i've stayed away for YEARS and i keep hoping that an Android device will come along that really wows me in comparison.

the iPhone 5S takes pretty fantastic pictures and you really don't have to *think* about anything in order to get those great shots. i went hiking last night with my new N5 and my girl with her iPhone 5 - not even the updated 5S.

we were hiking up a little mountain and the view of the setting sun was gorgeous. multiple colors in the sky - the sun was already set but still red and awesome colors abound...

both cameras were focused towards the horizon and it was immediately apparent that the iPhone 5 was taking better pictures - easily. i switched to HDR+ and snapped a couple - slightly better, but still not the same. so then i switched to "sunset" mode - didn't really help.

all the while my girl changes nothing and just snaps away happily.

it is CRAZY that the N5 from Google would get released without even stepping into the ring to compete.
[Nexus 5 General] RussianBear:
It's also impossible (at least so far) to use this phone as a car cam. The footage is shaky throughout. Granted I do have a sub and it might hit a little, but N4 never had this issue. The camera can't focus for s.
[Nexus 5 General] kaywalker23:
That's just you. My nexus 5 camera takes better quality pics than an iphone 5s. I have compared it in person. The autofocus and capture speed is slower, but the quality and colors are better. Also try the camera 360 app. It takes slightly better pictures but you shouldn't really need it. It has tons of other effects though.
[Nexus 5 General] spovat:
can you post them here to show us the discrepancy you're referring to?
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
After using this device since Monday I can say the camera lag is really the one big issue with this device. Hopefully Google can fix this through a software update otherwise the camera on this phone really is a failure no matter how good a picture it takes of flowers.

I already stopped trying to take pictures of my kid with the N5 because you can't, well unless he is sleeping.
[Nexus 5 General] Monk4Life:
Just like the majority of everyone else here this camera is a huge joke. One of the worse cameras I have seen on a high end phone lately. It is better than my N4 but I guess I got spoiled with my S4 with cm10 and HTC One.

The s4 blows this camera out of the water in night, daytime and shots of my kids running around. I am so disappointed and I have always been a huge Nexus fan from the beginning. This is probably going to be the first phone of mine that I will actually return.

Can this phone take some good shots.........yes, but they are few and far between where as my S4 is really consistent. Don't bash me for stating the obvious. If you do think the camera in this phone is great then you have NOT used some of the latest high end phones that have been coming out this last year as almost all of them have better cameras.

This review pretty mush sums up exactly how I feel about this phone.

http://www.zdnet.com/nexus-5-is-nic...still-my-favorite-smartphone-ever-7000022825/
[Nexus 5 General] samagon:
Shutter lag is bad. Holding the shutter then releasing should result in an immediate photo, but it results in the phone deciding what taking your finger off the screen means... Oh yeah, this means I need to take a photo! Meanwhile, the ois is awesome.

Quality, once the phone decides to take the picture is good enough for a phone, just mho though.
[Nexus 5 General] L1lyksd@ddy:
I just came from the HTC One X and this camera is complete junk. I can't even believe how bad. I LOVE this phone but this is unacceptable!!
[Nexus 5 General] cyburke:
this is pretty much accurate.

i tried taking pictures of a group of girls last night in a back patio lit with a fire, candles, and other ambient lighting. it was definitely not too dark to take good pictures.

with flash off the N5 just could not focus on anything and every picture was blurry. OIS - where is it?

my friend has the 5S and took 3 or 4 pictures in a row with no flash. boom, boom, boom. most all fantastic shots.

kaywalker above who says the N5 takes better shots than the 5S - there is no way that is possible. it just isn't.

perhaps if both phones are setup in a lightroom, on top of a tripod, and the subject wasn't moving - maybe in some situations there the color or whatever could be better - but we don't use our phones like that. the point is to whip it out, snap some cool stuff - and quickly - and continue on with your life and the camera shouldn't be a distraction to those efforts.
[Nexus 5 General] adityats2020:
Hey can you post some comparison shots. I am really curious as to what the difference can be like with 3rd party camera apps.
[Nexus 5 General] kaywalker23:
If you don't believe me watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp6clWG-b5c

Again, me and many others have had no problems with the camera. Maybe you have a defective unit?

But seeing your other posts on the forum, it seems like you have your heart set on the iphone 5s. So why are you torturing yourself? return the device already.
[Nexus 5 General] adityats2020:
If you are comparing phones, it would really help to share some pictures. Thanks you.
[Nexus 5 General] ehsangolpesar12:
Hi.

My impression is if you used a high end Galaxy phones before, you would be disappointed with N5 camera. Even my old Note II is much faster in capturing. I am going to return the N5. But if they solved the issue by an update, I am definitely inline to order a new N5.
[Nexus 5 General] Tzfardaya:
camera

Well, My n5 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't be certain what I think about the shutter lag...

but... I'm pretty sure it won't bother me... only thing I use a phone camera for is the odd info shot where I don't care how many seconds it will take, the waybill, information board, or whatever isn't going anywhere...

For any other type of photography, I pull out an actual camera... nothing beats the ability to swap lenses for different situations... Wide angle, telephoto, fast glass, slow glass...

I'm not saying that phone cameras can't take good pictures, I'm just saying i don't rely on them for photography... (at best I use them for snapshots)

Just my thoughts, ymmv
[Nexus 5 General] elementaldragon:
I believe you fail to comprehend what exactly OIS is. It's there to help try to negate blurry photos caused by your hands moving while holding the device. OIS doesn't do a damn thing about the objects IN the picture moving. Need a shorter exposure to cut down on blurriness caused by moving objects.
[Nexus 5 General] cyburke:
i know what OIS is.. i didn't talk above about a scene where subjects were moving - i talked about the inability to quickly snap pictures in a darker type setting with candles, etc all which made the N5 go nuts. the iphone 5s took multiple pictures - instantly - and without issue.

this is simply unacceptable for a new device released directly by google.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Here are some photos I took last night in London.

View attachment 2379176 View attachment 2379177 View attachment 2379178

As there's no way (even with Camera360, which I used here) to adjust the shutter speed, it's true that you can't really hope to capture things that are moving - and that IS a problem if you're taking photos of people (especially children, like my 20 month old son!) - but you can see the level of detail the sensor can take in, and the stabilisation working in HDR mode to keep the scenery looking sharp when taking multiple shots.

With the right tweaks, I think the Nexus 5 could be a serious player in the imaging stakes, and that certainly needs to include a better way to focus and being able to detect or select manually shutter speeds/modes.

EDIT: Here are the originals, as I noticed that the images have been somewhat ruined by the forum software heavily compressing them!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/llq51mqbtpomsrr/2013-11-07 18.29.40.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ph4pzigfc51kix/2013-11-07 18.28.13.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cic2w1s57mwddmp/2013-11-07 18.27.13.jpg

And an additional indoor shot (low-light, no flash): https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9hw8gnlvyxjkzy/2013-11-07 19.17.13.jpg
[Nexus 5 General] patriotaus:
So I just took about 20 photos. Every single one of them focused in less than a second. The majority felt instant, maybe 2 or 3 took half a second when i quickly moved the phone and didn't give the phone a change to preempt.

Maybe you guys are holding it wrong... /s
[Nexus 5 General] parmend:
I'm surprised no ones brought up the flash . it leaves every pic yellow ,that's the only prob I'm having .other than that this phones a beast ! I really like the low light ability of this camera .
[Nexus 5 General] 2fastkuztoms:
here 2 pics i took using the stock mod v1.1 camera. There edited on the gallery editor.

Watches

Nexus Box
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Not talking about quality or anything but I can snap about 5 pictures on the HTC One in the time it takes the N5 to snap 1 and I am not talking about a burst shot either.
[Nexus 5 General] BoneXDA:
If shutter control is unavailable, set up higher ISO for shorter shutter, go maximum. Can't say which app works with ISO control on KitKat, but besides Camera 360 you may try:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slide.cameraZoom

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.lgCamera

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neaststudios.procapture.free

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.worldiety.athentech.perfectlyclear

Awesome pictures BTW! :good:
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
The ISO control in Camera360 isn't available on the N5. It might need an update to enable.

I will have to look at other apps too. I think the sensor looks like it could be as good as, say, the Lumia 920 or 925, given the right software.
[Nexus 5 General] iboj007:
I also thought this was overblown until I tried taking pics of a dog indoors. Shutter lag is absolutely unacceptable at this point and makes the phone camera basically unusable for indoor shots where the subject may be moving even a little.
[Nexus 5 General] Lockeskidney:
i'm not aware of any 3rd party camera app that is fully functioning right now
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
Maybe they're waiting for Google to release the update ? Supposedly tomorrow Google will push an update for Google now and for the camera , but I'm skeptical after all of the disappointments we had with all the supposed release dates for the nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] schleppy:
The camera performance in my Nexus 5 is terrible. It has only gotten a focus lock a handful of times, and even then the photos were very blurry. Indoors the camera simply won't focus at all.

It's really disappointing because the phone is phenomenal in all other respects. I really hope Google fixes this soon.
[Nexus 5 General] Dirk:
I would have a listen to what Brian Klug said here about the camera preview problem on the N5. It could be a good indication of what the software fix might be!
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Where is the rumor about a camera update coming tomorrow from?
[Nexus 5 General] beezar:
Seems like the Nexus is having the same exact issues with the camera as the LG G2, the phone that it is based on. I was going to get the G2 until many people complained about the same things as you guys are complaining about the Nexus: very slow shutter speed especially in lower lighting conditions leading to very blurry shots when there are moving objects, very slow auto-focus, poor video frame rates, etc.

This is really is a deal-killer, as many people use their phones to take pictures of moving objects (such as kids). It seems to work well for this purpose only in very bright conditions (read: outdoors on a sunny day only), but for all other conditions, blurriness ensues.

LG and Google really need to get this fixed, though we'll see how quickly. The G2 has been out coming up on 2 months, and no signs of a fix yet.
[Nexus 5 General] schleppy:
I'm guessing the slow fix for the G2 has to do with Verizon's love for delaying absolutely everything related to Android.
[Nexus 5 General] timtlm:
Holding the shutter button will allow you to lock focus before releasing to take a picture.

I agree with everyone here about the shutter lag and the slow / incorrect focusing issues. I hope Google will have a software fix soon.

Overall, I believe the AOSP camera needs a UI overhaul. The widescreen display with full screen capture is just stupid. I realize there are people that like widescreen photos, but I prefer to use the whole sensor without cropping. So, there should be an option for widescreen/fullscreen, and the preview should match the capture format.
[Nexus 5 General] The-Nazgul:
I agree, blurry pictures happen way too many times compared to the N4
[Nexus 5 General] krylon360:
I took these on Sunday with my N5.

The more I zoomed; the blurrier it got.
[Nexus 5 General] spamlucal:
you don't say
[Nexus 5 General] krylon360:
I know right; who'd a thought? :-p