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[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
A ja mislio da su kod nas cene visoke. Jeste da su prodavnice mutne kao močvara, ali ima poštenijih izuzetaka. XSP je sada ≈ €180 simfree i pozdraviš se sa garancijom.

And I thought the prices in Serbia are high. XSP is around 180 euros for a simfree unit, but with highly questionable warranty. The paradox is even if you do buy at a local authorizer seller's with greater markup or thru the carrier, you can usually kiss the warranty good-bye, too.
[Xperia SP General] Araib93:
I got mine @ 232$, C5303 without contract (we don't have those in my country) and also no sim lock :D
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
Stop Off Topic Guys.. This is not a mobile showroom.. For selling and buying phones.. Keep the thread on topic..
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
And that comes from the biggest wanker of XDA... A major applause for you mate.. :good:
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Thanks for the info, this almost certainly means that the Xperia SP will not receive KitKat. It's a shame really, I have been greatly let down by Sony :( , if you get any good news please update us.

Btw where does it show only the current version? The UK/global site shows KitKat under investigation. Link?

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He's the only one here who knows insiders, up till now his statements have been correct, e.g. the 205 update. Don't swear at him, atleast he's giving us info.
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
This my shock you but: THE WHOLE THREAD IS OFFTOPIC!!! :eek:
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
Haa haa yea. I know it.. Just told. That's all..
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Reason :@

Sony really have no excuse for not updating the Xperia SP, they probably will keep it under investigation till October and then change it to 4.3 final version near EoL. Sony really is a chutiya company. :-S

Looks like I'll be going to Motorola a lot sooner than I thought, unfortunately I won't be able to trust Sony enough to continue my Xperia portfolio ownership (sig).
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
The logic and real purpose of this thread has left when we got the news of the 4.3 update... But hey we dont care
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Conclusions for people looking to buy Sony phones.

Buy

Zx,- Version for latest android updates.

M,Sx,T,.... For one android update .

E,V,P.... For one or no android updates.
[Xperia SP General] Saim Polani:
Same Problem

After a detailed discussion with one of the Viber's representative i got the following reply:

Sergey M. replied:

Hello Saim,

Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention. We are currently investigating the matter.

I will contact you should we need further information to correct the issue.

Best regards,

Sergey

Viber Support Team

I'm using Viber Desktop! Get it here!
[Xperia SP General] JetArmstrong:
It seems .207 is not brand specific anymore.Look my attached print screen
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
its time to see what will be changes on official sony xperia sp software update page... :)
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Some people have reported nothing, as far as I am aware Australia was the first to receive the generic version but no changes were reported and the bugs from .205 firmware were still present.
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
that's sad...but maybe we recive an information about next update ;)and i must ask you...does BE2 works in album on the .207 update..? on .205 for me works only with movies and videos...
[Xperia SP General] chewlohseng:
Given my brief day of use, issues are still present on the 207 build. However, it seems that RAM management problem is getting worse. Random reboots early in the morning when I left it in idle mode for 6 hours. Pretty disappointing especially when 205 is more stable.

This reminds me of 12.1.A.0.266 and .256 builds, which 256 is more stable than 266.
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
BE2 was fixed since .205 update O_o

and stability was better since .201.... remember make a fresh flash when update O_o
[Xperia SP General] sanaka:
4.4.4 released for 2013 z series!!any news for our sp?!
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
I just took a look on the 4.4.4 roll out. It seems that only the xperia tablet z got it according to xperiablog. Neither the xperia z, zl nor the zr (still) got it. Don't get any hopes fellas...
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
they will. SP on the other hand.. :D
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
They won't update sp, don't get your hopes high guys.. and z, zr and zl will get it, confirmed on sony twitter that the rollout will start
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
stop it, there are alotta guys with delusions and they got mad whenever someone says something like that. :D
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
That's the problem, ppl should hope for kit kat but also be realistic, why do you think sony won't say a thing? do you think they are preparing us a surprise? xD the answer is obvious
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
yup. btw, they had already said smth - KK future version and now its under investigation (whatever it means):D
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
I hate to say it but I don't think we'll get KitKat anymore, we are a month away from EoL and with the .207 update quietly seeding out I just don't see it coming. If we're lucky they'll give us a change list for the .207 update and give us a decent excuse regarding why we didn't get KitKat. Or they'll silently kill the device off. :(
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Bootloader unlock and Cyanogenmod or bye bye SP and get an other one :)
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
There is cm11 for locked bootloader,so there might be a chance of us getting cm12(if it will be cm12) on locked bootloaders.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I dont care anymore.. This phone has bugs, this community has bugs and the firmware has bugs. Sony Xperia SP is bugged :silly:

In aprox 8/9 months I can switch phones and I dont think I get a Sony again.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Im buying a newer sony mid-ranger in 12 months.No more last year phones for me,even if they are on discounts.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
official KK would improve CM too.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Painfully true :P
[Xperia SP General] 47un:
Yeah...and the reason will be screen resolution and ram probably...:confused:

Connoisseur's Words
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Nope. Sony has never blamed 1GB RAM as a reason for not upgrading, only 512MB.

In fact, recently, Sony did not give a reason why they end support (Xperia T, etc). So stop this annoying repetition of "screen resolution and RAM". It's like a little kid singing Barney the Dinosaur multiple times, repeatedly.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
so what about THE reason? like you will appeal it and SONY decide to over rule they original decision not to make KK for SP? :D
[Xperia SP General] gocegoce:
SP EOL

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-sp/
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Finally. End all the suspense. Get ready to witness a bunch a rowdy kids marching here.
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
Wow, that was... expected.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
This is a really bad news. Specially for LBL custom roms in future.

But hey, at least MODs can close this god forsaken thread now.

Or maybe not ;p
[Xperia SP General] Fat_boy555:
Not surprising.. Nvr really had much faith in Sony.. Coming from the Xperia 2011 line, I'm knew deep down that Sony wouldn't give this update.. Unlocking bootloader is the best choice now.. And there's no lack of options for kit Kat roms regardless of UBL or LBL.. PA, PAC by [MENTION=4350492]neXus PRIME[/MENTION] has shown how well the community can cope without Sony. The only thing left to hope would be the release of drivers/sources which would help development of Kitkat roms and maybe help us get a fully working Android L Rom when it's released..
[Xperia SP General] Patrol619:
Middle finger from Sony as standard :) They could update it but they don't want to. All they want is that we throw our phones away and buy their new Z3 series, which is not gonna happen at least from me :)
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
I really hoped we would get kk but that was expected from sony.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Well ****... I now know why i started to hate android...

Suddenly a lot of bootloaders started to unlock xD
[Xperia SP General] 47un:
Chill bro! I was being sarcastic :P But for a while, they were saying that they will give kk, and then it became under -investigation.. It fooled a lot of customers...anywho...next step is boot loader unlock then :D

Connoisseur's Words
[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
I'm gonna use the phone untill it turns to dust. Then I'm gonna buy a non-Sony device. That will pretty much be the only mandatory requirement with the next purchase. Bye, Sony, for good, hope you don't make it.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
What is the reason from Sony then?

Is it because of the 18 month support? If so the Xperia Z should also not recieving any more updates..

Is it because of the Z3 line that has been introduced? Most likely because no support for the older ones means more people will buy the new ones for support.

Sony better come with a good damn reason....
[Xperia SP General] hussein1:
لعنت بر سونی

دیگه این تاپیک چرت و پرت رو جمع کنید.:crying:
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
so I guess investigation is finally over. :D
[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
Doesn't really matter. They can crumb up any pullship "reason" they want, we will scream it's not a legitimate reason, but nothing will change. Only thing that'll hurt Sony and perhaps alter their policies/ethics is not to buy any of their devices. When the company feels the sales dropping, the top management will have to change something.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Well no more Sony for me.. One buggy update and call it EOL.. Samsung can do this 10 times better.. (even the S3 has a ported kitkat)

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That is true but it is really lame to keep users in confusion for months after releasing a ****ty update and now saying EOL...
[Xperia SP General] Daniel D.:
So it's the end.
[Xperia SP General] Th3B1ff:
Well F@#K
[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
Be considerate, they needed time to investigate their bank accounts for the money that KK lie would bring them thru SP sales. :mad:

Just don't buy another of their devices and you'll be paying them back (pun intended). I hope everyone will follow this advice.
[Xperia SP General] sanaka:
Really bad!

Next phone:sammy
[Xperia SP General] 47un:
They just want us to dump this gorgeous device coz of the outdated, buggy OS and buy their Z3 ..

Connoisseur's Words
[Xperia SP General] odie70:
Throw Sony with sh!t!!
[Xperia SP General] mohsen8:
R.I.P sp:angel:
[Xperia SP General] alexmolhi:
D.E.P.

well...:crying:...if sony give us a 4.3 estable....or everybody to unlock the bootloader!

keep calm and CM11s...
[Xperia SP General] UsernameWasTaken:
Perhaps the thread should be locked? Sony's stand on KK for XSP is a public knowlegde now and there isn't anything left for us to discuss or report.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Go with official mokee instead. :good:
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
By now on i will NEVER buy a sony phone, not because they dont update sp, but because the lie for months, when i decided to buy this, they told that kk guaranteed so kk was one of my reasons to buy sp. Samsung is a lot better. A lot of abilities and goodies, open bootloader, pre-installed recovery, easy android development, better update cycle at least for good phones.
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
I think sony made a mistake to release such a good mid phone in 2013, this phone could be classified as something as "low high end" phone, since their 2014 mid range phones are way worse than sp they can't just give kk to sp because that would bring up confusion as why is a 2013 mid range phone way better than their 2014, ppl would want SP and sony doesn't want to sell sp anymore, anyways, They just don't care about sp anymore , S3 story is a different story, probably millions? of ppl with S3, samsung couldn't just ignore it , sp? sp is famous, but not that much ppl have it right now, they can just ignore us and announce end of support, they aren't forced to give us a reason, they can just do it. It's sad but that's how it is..

Anyways, enjoy CM11 , no need to unlock bootloader, can just use cm11 from steve or pac / pa from nexus, i personally find cm11 from steve to be more stable than official cm11 (cm11 kernel kinda buggy sometimes) ..
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
S3 is completely different, its from 2012 not 2013. Anyway s3 got i think 2 or 3 big updates from ics to 4.3. But sp just one big update. Samsung is a lot better, i forgot in my previous post: more powerful speakers, better headphones, amoled display vs tft lcd with low viewing angle, better camera however sony is one of biggest camera makares of world.
[Xperia SP General] noahvt:
well that sucks... i'm not buying a new device because of an update (actually though i have this device for almost a year now so i might get a new phone soon)

it's also sad to know that we might never get a fully function android L build :/ it doesn't really have to be sony to blame here... qualcomm could've ditched support for the s4 pro (very unlikely)

anyway if i ever buy a new device, how will i ever find a phone with a adreno 320 and lte for a similar price to the sp lol

at least i hope sony comes up with a good reason for this eol
[Xperia SP General] caesar13th:
Stop praising another phone here. Just buy S3 already goddmmit!

With this news came out, my SP's screen get worse. The inner screen is dirty and it can't vibrate anymore. Maybe i should save more money to buy a new phone :(

In a meantime i'll unlock bootloader and messing up with this phone!
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Because Galaxy S3 is a flagship and Xperia SP is not!!
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Sony support

Bull**** support from Sony, atleast we don't have to stress over anymore updates. Might as well use the phone till early next year then switch to another manufacturer. They ended support for the Xperia M as well, it's only been like 13 months since release. :-S
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
You get stress over updates? You might need physiological treatment.
[Xperia SP General] Silver Wx:
Now we know sony is a liar, no more comment needed.
[Xperia SP General] Steph310:
Welcome all in CM11 users group! ;)
[Xperia SP General] tomgv:
Thank you Sony . This is my first and last phone from Sony. Update 4.3 is crap and lagging.
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
Hate to say told you so... :p

Too many people were living in a dream world.

Realistic people have known better for months.
[Xperia SP General] krump_lee:
well finally i hope the world most silliest thread can be closed

little advice, install CW on locked bootloader too !!
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Man,I had a feeling that this would happen,but I didnt want to belive in it...

I regret choosing this phone over the s4 mini...who cares for a 720 dpi screen if it is 1 cm inside of the phone,while samsungs 480 dpi feels like heaven -.-

Fool me once,SONY,shame on you.But fool me twice,shame on me.

The next phone I will buy is an LG or an HTC.
[Xperia SP General] velnens123:
That's enough of Sony phones! Never gonna buy Sony phones again!
[Xperia SP General] yamet:
Stay strong together!

I was thinking what about if we make class lawsuit? When we were buing this phone we were promissed to receive KitKat.

It was part of the deal when we bought it and Sony was promissing it to every buyer explicitly. Why don't we sue them? There are so many people all over the world that bought this phone because of assurance Xperia SP will receive KitKat.

We should not give up and make them think twice before bluntly lie just to make sales go up.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Uhm I dont think that a lawsuit will give us KitKat.

Just one reason: Google has the rule of 18 month support and in october this 18 month rules comes to a stop.. So they can't be sued over a promise...
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
So you signed up just to post this...? :eek: C'mon guy, stop dreaming.

Just move on... Some of you are just acting childish right now!
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
True,but not buying their products is a punishment that punchs their budget more.
[Xperia SP General] yamet:
18 month rule is one thing. Making promises when selling good is another. They can stop supporting after 18 months but in this time they were supposed to release KitKat as they assured us. They didn't fulfill their contract.

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It's your unmature attitude to give up even if you have your right to something.
[Xperia SP General] pranavthombare:
He's got a point man.
[Xperia SP General] RoXzAn:
I think its time to close this thread as there might be no further news on kk [emoji24]
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Or any updates.. for that matter.
[Xperia SP General] Furrydaus:
I am really concerned as of where this thread is going because of a few reasons. I'm going to get a moderator to look at this. For those of you who think that you're gonna get away with what you say, you're not.

Heres the reasons why;

1) XDA will be hit with the law if anyone here starts a lawsuit against Sony

2) Immaturity of the people in this thread

3) people not being patient

4) The amount of people talking about unrealistic topics

5) Thread is not staying true to its main subject at hand

The mods will be doing something about the thread and I'll be letting them handle this thread further.

Regards,

Furrydaus
[Xperia SP General] igor_anta:
The only problem with closing the thread (I support that btw) is that countless new ones will pop up with complaints, insane lawsuit ideas, petitions and so on.

I went through the same thing on the Xperia Play, even got a test beta for ICS and in the end the phone was the only one of the 2011 line that didn't get the update. And I completely agree with Sony's decision to do that, there were valid reasons.

And while the SP is by all means powerful enough to take on AOSP KK I doubt the same could be said of Sony's own KK. It's bloated, feature rich and has a ton of junk that will just slow the phone to a halt, so since we have CM11, PA and PAC for LBL I don't see the major issue here.

You can't sue a company based on a promise, not even in the USA probably :) So this is it, just let it go and learn to live with what you have. And it's been said before and I'll say it again: If you get a phone is for the software updates get a Nexus (or Moto), other than that you'll just be disappointed.

Cheers and peace out.
[Xperia SP General] malinda86:
No kk for xperia sp :(

Latest & final version

Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)

2014-02
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
What are you going to tell your legal representative, 'my smartphone manufacturer failed to deliver an update they promised'. If so, I'm afraid you'll be laughed at. Furthermore the money invested in such a case would be better off used elsewhere, maybe a flagship phone. I'm not against you but such an idea is no use in the real world.

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I like your comment, "Fool me once,SONY,shame on you.But fool me twice,shame on me." Unfortunately I have been fooled by Sony before multiple times. :-S
[Xperia SP General] Bares:
R.I.P SONY !!!

I don't think if someone trying to express their disappointment because he/she was fooled by THIS GHOST are childish.

And go away from this ghost is a smart move though.

Getting some money by cheating peoples isn't good though.

BTW, I'm happy with my SP, it's cheap but good enought for my last Sony's phone :cool:

Regards
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
No one can read those scratches. Please use English.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
Like you would care. ;)
[Xperia SP General] MH-Droid:
I can :D he said close this thread because all that jazz..
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Well there is one small detail we all (including me) seem to forget.

The Sony Xperia SP is a great device. Yes it has issues, yes we are mad and sad and angry and other things because we won't get KitKat but should that ruin our experience with it? NO! We have a lot of ROMS that provide a variaty of looks and function. Perhaps not all are stable but still we have a community!

I do regret sometimes that I bought it because of the annoying bugs but when I see someone walking around with a HTC One or Samsung Galaxy S4 I realise I have a real piece of art in my hands.

The LED bar, the frame, the hardware in it :) It is amazing!

I do have issues with the way Sony has handled this device and I don't have any respect for those idiots but still I do love my Xperia. :)

I know I have said otherwise but still, there is a small place in my heart that loves the Xperia SP...

Look at her isn't the pretty :silly:

[IMG="No this is not me holding her :P"]http://media.gizmodo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Sony-Xperia-SP-Review-hands-on.jpg[/IMG]

Altho we are mad and very sad now. That feeling will go away after some time.. Just don't read XperiaBlog.. It only makes us (and me) mad.....

:angel:
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
mjraider, it's pretty and beautiful, but lol, nothing compares to my white sp , it's so white and sexy and omfg .... :$$$$$ I'd bang it all day (i kinda do...) , my gf also has a SP so our sp's are a couple and they make alot of love together :)
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Ssssshh... You make her jealous.. And we all know how jealous women are ;)
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
Well depends on the womans :p But yes mine is quite jealous :) just curious, is that your sp or google image? and do you have a screen protector?
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Google image :angel:
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
Lol you just cheated on your sp wtf o.o
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
I dont have any good camera to take a picture of my lovely SP :angel:
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
Np xD , anyways, on topic, ppl shouldn't be sad, we should be the opposite, we should be even more positive, help developers with roms, actively work with them (in developing or bugs or testing) with whatever help we can get and just make our SP the best phone we can make out of it, we don't need sony, our developers do their job way better, and.. even worse, for free.

I would be sad for seeing developers going away from SP

Sony going away? whatever, it was useless anyways with their broken promisses
[Xperia SP General] Steph310:
I read comments here that I do not understand ...

I never want to Sony ,

The SP is buggy,...

Last 4.3 works fine for me, and we have the best 4.3 rom here!

No 4.4? No problem, official CM11 exists and has greatly improved ;)

I love my SP and I thank Sony to conceived this really nice phone!
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
Hey. I really love the fact that your ROM is without Bloatware and Zipaligned.

Can you please make a version of the same ROM but with stock Theme please? :silly:

I would greatly appreciated.
[Xperia SP General] wiidbzxt:
I sold my SP in order to get a Moto X almost two months ago and I don't regret it at all. The extra gig of RAM feels great and Motorola feautres are actually useful. It's only problem is that you need to unlock your BL in order to root. The only Sony phone I might buy someday are the compact series, apart from that, no more Sony from me. If you REALLY can't deal with your SP anymore, I recomend you to the same as I did. Here in Mexico you can easily find the Moto X new for little less than a Xperia SP.
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
Moto X is still ~250€ while Xperia SP is 150€ in Europe, so it's not an option. But yes, Moto X is great device, you did the right thing.
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
You will do the right thing too if you bought the Xperia Z series. Again, the outdated Xperia Z is still being updated to Android 4.4.4! The extra GB of RAM in Xperia Z feels great and Sony Z features are actually useful. I will continue buying Sony phones as like Samsung, HTC, phone Android updates are guaranteed for flagships.