yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
No, I'll never had that problem with the popup thing my self, that was new to me.

Update

I had it now with a new image i built. I was qt multithread image, no idea if that has something to do with it. And also the TS didnt work since the popup message same up, but itwas only to hit ctrl+alt+delete and it jumped vack to the shell. Then i started it again with '/etc/init.d/opie start' and the TS worked as it should when i calibrated it.

Nxt time i tried the same image (fresh one) i let the .opiestorage.cf be in my ext3 partition, and i got rid of the popup and the TS worked as it should.

The modules messages should not happend, If it asks for hh2 modules, you are probably using a zImage based on the hh2 CVS? Use the new one either in /boot directory in your Opie-image (named zImage-2.6.16), or the one in the sd-mmc folder (named zImage) is based on hh3, use that one.

There should not be a problem to use "rm", but add an "f" so it also forces the delete. Like 'rm -rf *' ( r=recursive, f=force). It's also a good idea to do a "sync" after deleting, adding and extracting to a sd/mmc card.

I have just uploaded (again) the zImage fron the hh3 CVS just to be sure that the zImage is based on the hh3 cvs source.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] davidchow:
Corrupted 2.6.12 opie/gpe images on web

The gpe/opie bzip2 files under the link http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/sd-mmc/2.6.12/ doesn't work . When attempt to run bzip2 , it tells you the files are corrupted and requires bzip2recover. Running bzip2recover has no use. I suspect it has a problem during upload .

p.s. I downloaded the 2.6.16 files and then can be untar properly though . However, they didn't work for my Universal, still trouble shooting. Will talk about it in separate message.

David
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] madkat:
Found the same with 2.6.12 files
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Hmm, these are not on the Universal's keyboard.

Fn-Mail-Backspace ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
I know, i'll try to fix them, but i think mine local files are broke to. I'l'look for some working ones.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Mail-Internett-Del
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
I think it should be Fn-Sym-Del (if it will work)

Mail and Internet already have some meaning.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Mail= [ctrl]; Inet = [Alt] ; [del/backspace] =[del/backspace]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pasztorl:
Somebody have a keyboard layout for this device in a picture for example?

If not I should create a new one, and we are discuss it.

I not found the '|' (pipe) for example.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UniversalKeyboard
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] davidchow:
Universal Linux 2.6.16 Opie test results and comment

I finally got the 2.6.16 opie working on my Universal (O2 XDA Exec) . I was using a simplified chinese version WM 5.0 originally.

As I am an experienced Linux PDA user, I owned Sharp Zaurus 5500, 5600, and C1000, ran Qtopid, Cacko, OpenZaurus, and GPE . The current opie port to the Universal is really a fork from the opie about the Sharp Zaurus C-series . In fact, I think it is good. Becaue opie has a large user base and has existed for a long time.

What I think about the current "Linux on Universal" work is rough, but good to see it can already up-and-running, and even IR bluetooth, and wi-fi working . however, there are many things we should do. We should put the branch into the official OPIE development work (create a feed at http://opie.handhelds.org) .

Some easy todos

- Map universal keybroad keys properly . Add virtual ctrl and alt key maps . Cannot do escape, maybe use the hangup key to do so.

- Enable the hot key for wireless configurations, need to write a simple interface and redirect to the desired settings_app

- sound is not working (driver problem?)

- battery charing is not working for me, battery status is not showing anything

- Volume control applet need to hook up with volume up/down key

- USB storage emulation support (can copy from Zaurus feed and cacko rom)

- Keyboard LED auto detection, or on/off swich by hook up the light hotkey

Other todos may depends on other componetns

- Get webcam software or camera software (depends on camera driver)

- Fnid a phone interface software, or write up one (depends on the phone hw driver availability)

- Repartition the internal flash, boot Linux se JFFS directly

Other comments

My first installation of OPIE doesn't work, the touch screen didn't work. Cannot get through the calibration process. I then reformat the SD Card, and untar again for GPE. Same issue, but GPE can work without a pointer/TS . I then get back to 2.6.12 and findout the files on the website are corrupted. Then I install 2.6.16 OPIE again, then it alll worked (include TS). After a reboot, it still work. I suspect there are some HW status condition bugs in the TS driver. But I cannot do battery charge, LED lights after plug USB .

Hope these comment helps the project. I am happy to get around with this project. And I am experienced Linux user/developer . Hope to hear feedbacks from you guys.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] madkat:
Thanks :-)

I think all of what you have listed are "known issues" and are on the to-do list. Currently this Linux is in a very much try-out phase - the long-term plan is to have a "one-click" installation process with minimal reliance on the console on the device and a minimal learning curve to make it as attractive as possible to existing Universal owners instead of being nothing more than a "geek toy". But that's a long way yet, and although it has come on in leaps and bounds over the past few months, the to-do list is being tackled one item at a time, sometimes with large amounts of experimentation and learning required to make things work properly.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] adamdon89:
Hi,

I've not tried Linux on my universal yet, bit I've got a couple of questions to people that have tried it and the fantastic people that are developing this:

How fast does it run, faster than WM5?

Will this ever be simple and easy to install for users that have little or no experience with Linux?(The tutorials still look like Japaneses to me)

When(if ever) do you guys think this will be able to be used as a phone?

And finally I ask as a big gamer, How well does/will it play games? Does Linux suffer from the same keyboard driver problem as WM5?(not responding to multiple key presses)

Thanks

-Adam Don
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
I still have the working 2.6.12 version if anybody needs them
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Yes thank you, could you just upload them at xda ftp, then i can upload them again to gnulinux.biz.

Just let me know when you have uploaded them otherwise it will be deleted after a day or something.

PM me when you have uploaded it.

Thnaks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Hi Madkat.

Someone has allready made a auto install tool. Could you take a look at it, and try it to fit to the Universal??

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Re: Universal Linux 2.6.16 Opie test results and comment

I dont know if you have seen this, but i have answered you in the new thread you started. but let's keep the discussion in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=56097
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] madkat:
I think that on the whole the two cannot be compared, simply because of the differences in the way the operating systems work. Any given piece of code will run at the same speed, but depending on how the code accesses the features of the device, and depending on how the OS supports those features, parts of a program may or may not run faster in Linux. Of course for the most part there won't even be a WM5 equivalent of a program, let alone a port.

Yes, as keeps being explained this Linux is in a very much trial phase while the important major stuff gets sorted out. It could be argued that by keeping the target audience small right now, less time will be spent trying to support inexperienced users and more time will be spent making it better. Eventually it should be as simple as running an installer on your PC, and Linux should be about as intuitive to a new user as Windows on a PC.

I can't personally comment on that, but I know there are people working on it,.

I doubt it will run HalfLife 1. Personally I've invested in a second hand GameBoy Micro to satisfy my mobile gaming needs, for now.

I think this is a "debounce" feature in the WM5 driver, since there is no hardware debounce on the keyboard. When running Linux I find a single keypress can sometimes create two key events. This may well be a tuneable parameter in Linux - and I think it's set far too high in the case of WM5.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] madkat:
I'd love to, but as I say I've lost the use of my test Uni :cry: and I don't really want to obliterate my current config! :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] adamdon89:
Thanks for the reply madkat :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] davidchow:
Re: Universal Linux 2.6.16 Opie test results and comment

I've seen that reply and is happy to continue discussion on this thread. Thanks.

On the other hand, I've seen someone did some work on the GPE about a phone software. Since there are major difference between GPE and OPIE development (different windowing API), I do think in a situation of limited resources, we should only focus on one side first. Keeping in mind that we should write platform independent software.

Did anyone did any research work about which side has most of the resources to build a complete workable phone?

My personal feeling and comment

- GPE is GTK compatible . Has more potential on porting existing Linux apps to such environment.

- OPIE is more Qtopia like . Qt-based and more optimized for mobile environment . May need more work to port existing apps from Linux, but UI runs better on mobile devices.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] DaanMDA:
The GSM of the h63xx phone is already working with gomunicator:

http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH6315

Is it possible to use the phone software for our phone too? as they are controlling the phone via AT commands and the control port for the Universal can already be initialized this shouldn't be a big problem i think
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
I think this is a bit of wishful thinking. They got a few limited functions working, but it's far from being usable as a phone.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pospani:
Hi everybody,

I am running 2.6.12 kernel + GPE, and my universal is really fast.

Tried opie but not compareable with gpe.

Does anybody know how to keep the speed when powercable is unplugged?

And if someone is interested i compiled a kernel with smbfs support,

universal is running Samba as server and client.

Need a better filebrowser for Gpe environment does someone know?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
The speed is 520MHz when you unplug the cable. You just need to have the cable in when starting haret.

do:

The .16 kernel has smbfs as a module, have no idea why the .12 hasent. But it's just to choose it as a module before compiling.

gpe-filemanager.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
with the "cpufreq" module, but i'm not sure it is available

for the 2.6.12 kernel. Backporting it will be a big waste of time.

Compile it as a module and load when necessary.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pasztorl:
Has anybody tried this? It works?

cr2:

1. at /proc/cpuinfo in the BogoMIPS field shows the frequency.

It is a bug, or...?

2. When I overclock the cpu (e.g.:cpuscalar) to 624Mhz the Windows freeze after a 5-10 second. If I overclock and boot linux, I see the overclocked frequency at /proc/cpuinfo. The system works stablility is OK at this frequency.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
On some computers it is twice the frequency. And it

is a feature.

The kernel itself does not touch the "speed" settings,

unless you use the cpufreq module.

Read the cpufreq docs.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] mullin:
can i write GUI application on linux?

hi,

what kind of programming languges (e.g python, c, java) are supported after installing the linux on it? of course, i would like to have the UI controls?

i'm thinking of a zaurus or this one?

thanks!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] madkat:
All languages are supported if you can find a compiler for (or interpreter compiled for) ARM/XScale. In the development of commercial software, we usually write the code on the PC then compile it (on the PC) for the device before transferring it onto the device to run/debug.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Logxen:
I just tried 2.6.16 on my Qtek 9000, and with a clean install I get the no touch screen problem. I tried both the GPE and Opie images, no touch screen with either. I'm working on Opie atm, and I have no /etc/pointercal file. Maybe if I had a generic one of some sort it would get the touchscreen to init and I could then tell it to calibrate, but I'm stuck on the first-boot calibration screen with no ts. Is there any other info I could provide to help track this one down?

I haven't started troubleshooting this yet, but I also get the wlan0 timeouts that someone else mentioned while in the text portion of the boot.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
Logxen,

no squeezing in here! Join the queue! ;-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Logxen:
Update: I just finished downloading the 2.6.12 opie, and the touch screen worked. I then tried taking the /etc/pointercal it made and giving it to 2.6.16 opie ... no go. 2.6.12 opie seems to be working for me though.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Thoose of you who haveing problems with the touchscreen with the .16 kernel, are you booting in landscape or portrait mode?

I dont have this problem my self, so it's kind of hard figureing out what causing this probem.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
landscape
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
i c , that's the same as i do.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] BoSJo:
Could it be wrong Zimage ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pisiiki:
Problems Partitioning my 4GB card

Hi guys, first of all I want to say that I apreciate a lot the effort you are doing on porting linux to this kind of devices. Said that I want to ask you if it is possible to partition the memory card with the current Ramdisk version. Everytime I try to follow the instructions I got some problems or the SDD linux then doesn't see what I did. I think it is because you updated only the version of the SDD linux but not the Ramdisk one.

I really want to test it on my XDA but unfortunately I just have a 4gb card.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fty:
Same problem here: I am struggling to install linux for months but it is impossible to format the 4GB card in the current state
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
The current linux images has support for 4GB now. Have both of you tried lately?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fty:
I have tried 1 week ago.

I am not really concerned with the linux kernel at the moment since I think our problem is on the formatting of the card itself (before any installation then). Perhaps the kernel is supporting 4GB, but not the ramdisk, so we cannot format the card, and we cannot proceed to the installation to test the kernel itself.

Besides, if you look at the files in the ramdisk folder, you'll see that they have not been updated for ages, so I doubt there has been much changes lately.

Thanks,

florenzo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pasztorl:
After O2 rom upgrade the kernel boots on my jasjar too. ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] milanvot:
Even more strange is after the first synchronization after the hard reset (with ActiveSync) the kernel stopped booting :-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
This could be a Active Sync Problem. It's not a secret that Active Sync is doing strange things, when it's running. If however the connection to the WinPC fais, you can do a soft reset, because Active Sync is doing crabby things in the backgrund. Killing this Process does not help.

And this is only one stange thing in Active Sync on WM5.0
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Thanks, maybe i will try this over the next days.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] milanvot:
Re: pxafb.

As I can see you made a big progress with pxafb device. I'm up and running your latest kernel, using pxafb driver and I have a nice looking fullscreen pxafb console. I only increased font size to 8x16, compiled in the pxafb command line options and made pixelclock run faster :-)

Thank you!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Re: pxafb.

The kernel i have been using was only showing at the half screen. Where can i get the latest kernel? i know this is a place to go http://jornada820.sourceforge.net/files/uni/ , but theses are the kernel who only shows the half screen.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Re: pxafb.

Ok, am I right ....

You are using the same Kernel as before ... but you did some modifications on the Kernel Kommand Line??

What is your new and updated cmd line?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] milanvot:
Re: pxafb.

No, I have compiled the latest kernel from CVS maintained by cr2 and enabled pxa framebuffer instead of vsfb (very Simple FB). I didn't expect to have it working but to my surprise it did :-) So it means cr2 has solved the problem with DMA. But we have to ask him...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
I have just flashed my JasJar with the QTEK rom but i changed the radio with 1.08.

I tried the Harret kernel and it booted as normal.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Re: pxafb.

Can you upload the new Kernel and your current startup.txt?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] milanvot:
Re: pxafb.

You may grab the files here.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Ok Thanks,

now we have Fullscreen, but the smal penguin is not visible on startup.

Thanks for the new Files.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] milanvot:
I put a new zImage with penguin included :-) Check the page I linked before...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Thanks :`)

Just installing a Gentoo Linux in a vmware environment ....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
I knew that what i was doing is right, but did not test the final result :)

The driver needs some minor cleanups:

pxa2xx-fb pxa2xx-fb: machine LCCR0 setting contains illegal bits: 00000001
pxa2xx-fb pxa2xx-fb: machine LCCR3 setting contains illegal bits: 00300000

and the correct power on/off, backlight on/off gpio sequences.

I have copied over the touchscreen driver from hx4700, modified it a bit, but it does not want to deliver

interrupts for some reason.

The SSP speed setting should be tested too.

If somebody can write a wince program (no gui),

that opens the sound port, makes a beep, closes the sound port, repeat it 1000 times, it will be very

useful for debugging the sound.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: pxafb.

The pxafb will allocate the complete memory buffer

in DRAM, and the PXA270 SRAM is left unused.

It may be slower, but definitely much less pain than

a custom FB driver.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: pxafb.

Get the latest CVS. Touchscreen is working now, but

the calibration can be improved.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
One question if I may. I have gotten as far as the familiar login prompt. However, I cannot get the Belcarra driver to run on my W2K machine (error code 10). Is it correct that I could also use the infrared console to communicate with the device? Do I need to change the startup.txt for that?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] EyeOfTheStorm:
Maybe you should ask under "Development and Hacking". I think there are more wince developers.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pasztorl:
mmcblk

Is there any restrictions about the sd card size?

I tested following card sizes:

512 - OK

1024 - OK

2046 - The card seen, but has I/O error on any read or write attempt.

4096 - Not tested yet.

The driver not regognises media change I think. If I reload the driver it regognises

the new card. (sometimes the module can't unloaded, only reboot solves the problem)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Yes thats right, i havent updated the ramdisk zImage. So the MMC/SD driver is still the one wich only supports up to 1 GB. I'll take a look at it, and upload a new zImage if it works.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
RAMDISK SUPPORT FOR SD/MMC X>1GB

I have uploaded a new ramdisk image with support for sd/MMC card over 1GB.

I havent tried to install or format anything with it, just tried to run it from my universal with a 2GB sd card.

The image complaines about some PCMCIA missing module, but thats because it is an old BA image ported to the Universal. Just forget about it, it wouldnt affect anything.

So guys and girls with a SD/MMC card over 1GB try it out and let me know the result.

Login as user: root and use the password: rootme

http://gnulinux.biz/files/Universal/ramdisk/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fty:
Thank you very much for this.

Unfortunately, I am abroad this week, so I cannot connect my phone, and I need to do that to have a try, But I'll do that on monday next week, and will definitely give you feedback, unless someone else have the time to try before.

The work of the people here is really appreciated.

Florenzo.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] adamdon89:
Quick Question...

Hey guys... Ok,

<STRIKE>So I decided to try it out, I got to the end of creating the vfat and Linux partition on the SD card and I only had 3.79MB(or something) free on my 64MB SD- not enough room for the 19.4MB of SD-MMC files, Before I waste any more time: Can I do this on a 64MB SD card?(I don't want to lose the files on my 4GB card)</STRIKE>

Edit:WAIT... I think I've got it working.

Edit2:NO... It was loading opie from the SD card, but it got stuck on this line:

"/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" Any help?

Thanks,

-Adam
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Re: Quick Question...

If you have formated partitions with the zImage in the ramdisk folder you should switch and use the one in sd-mmc/"kernel version".

Those zImages are diffrents becuase of ramdisk and root on SD.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sint2006:
is this kernel support arabic language
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] epascal:
Wifi driver

Hello,

I'm using the latest 2.6.16 opie image to test my wifi connection to a Freebox V4 (wifi modem from a french provider) in WEP and I'm still having big stability problems I can connect but after 5 minutes or less the connection is lost, so I can't download any package. I have to reset the driver rmmod, modprobe to reenable the connection. Does anyone have the same problem?

Thank you for your help, I like very much the latest version, since the calibration issues solved it even more precise than windows calibration.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fty:
Hello all,

Just to confirm that the new ramdisk and kernel are handeling the 4GB card perfectly (mine is A-Data). I tried the 2.16 kernel with opie and everything seems fine apart from the usual problems, things which are not yet working, etc...).

I was very impressed by the responsivity of the os (no doubt WM5 is really crap, but I fought the hardware was also rather slow). I am very pleased to be able to run it in the end. Thanks for all.

floenzo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] goxboxlive:
Good that it works.

There hasent been any progress lately with the linux porting. Cr2 is on vacation i guess, and i havent had any chance to build any new images because of my computer got fu**ed up during moving, and also my internet connection where lost last week and havent got it back yet.

So i guess in a month or two new improvements will come (let's hope for that).