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[Moto X General] Droyyd:
It's kinda like religious and political views. People will defend it dearly. It's interesting how people's values are reflected in a phone purchase.

I love my moto x, I just wished there was more development for this phone. the Nexus 5 Forums have been up for less than a week but look at how much development has already happened for it. It's been almost over a month now and there's only like 1 or 2 custom roms available on our development thread.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
The difference is out of those three the only one that's worth serious discussion is religion and even there when the yelling and taunting arises it is then that the discussion and communication ceases so no one learns no one respects

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[Moto X General] :
Today's blasphemy:
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
That's a bit offensive

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[Moto X General] :
True but it is true.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
True only to the jaded. I mean speaking of ones beliefs isn't shoving it down people's throats. What I find the most amusing is how the unbelievers shove that down peoples throats. Let's get back on topic. You can pm me if you want to continue

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[Moto X General] emerica243:
Except that its almost twice as much.
[Moto X General] mj0528:
Very offensive!!!
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
Its only 50 more

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[Moto X General] :
Please delete this post. I'm removing mine.
[Moto X General] emerica243:
Hows it only $50 more?

Nexus 5 32GB $399

Moto X 32GB $649 ?

http://www.motorola.com/us/Moto-X-Developer-Edition-GSM-Networks/moto-x-developer-edition.html
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
I'm sorry I thought you sent between the moto versions

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[Moto X General] tjep85:
Glad to see some response from the moto x owners

Out of all android phones out there, the Nexus 5 and moto x are the only ones that I seriously consider.

I don't game much on my phone (or at all), but I do take lots of pictures (of my 2 year old daughter)

It has been a nightmare getting shots of her with my current galaxy nexus, with the slow startup and focusing times.

Tell me, is the camera on moto x as bad as it is on the video?

Or did the camera software update make it much better?

I know the camera on these two devices aren't the best android has to offer,

But having stock experience is more important to me than that.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
The camera is fine after the update. I have also been told other camera updates are coming now that the camera is a stand alone app in the play store

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[Moto X General] emerica243:
I believe AFTER the Moto X gets kitkat, and another camera update, it will be on par with or better then the Nexus 5's current camera. As of right now however, ive come to the conclusion after watching other comparisons, and comparing both my moto x and nexus 5 that the nexus 5 is slightly better but they are seriously neck and neck with each other.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
Yea basically my sentiments

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[Moto X General] DonDizzurp:
The only thing I think the Nexus 5 has over the Moto X is the Snapdragon 800 CPU and maybe, MAYBE the camera. I think the Moto X wins in all other categories.
[Moto X General] tjep85:
Thanks for the replies folks!

Would you who are fortunate enough to have both Moto X and Nexus 5 mind posting a few camera comparisons of the two?

I've asked the folks at pocketnow to post their shots on their website for comparison... but slim chance there.

Think both camera softwares will be updated in the future, but it shouldn't matter much as I'm pretty sure Google's going to continue to improve auto-enhance.

The snapdragon 800 certainly has made Nexus 5 more future-proof.

But as long as Motorola maintains the tight optimization on Moto X during their updates, it'll probably be good enough to last for the next 2 years (until another update is due!)
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
I sent mine back so I can't as all I have is the moto. I will probably not upgrade until next years replacement for the moto x

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[Moto X General] farkam135:
I think the moto X is very strong in the future-proof category, especially with it's TRIM support on roids.
[Moto X General] EternalAndroid:
After lots of thinking I've decided to get the Moto X over the Nexus 5. The battery on the Nexus 5 doesn't look very promising. I love the features of the X "too" much.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
Nice! Welcome you won't regret it !

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[Moto X General] raiderep:
I played with a nexus 5 all day yesterday but I just could not get my moto x out of my mind! My nexus is now on eBay. It was a tough decision for me because they are both very good devices but the moto x won it with size and abilities, and innovation too. I have never been this tortured over two phones before and am very grateful to be blessed with such problems ;)

Go android!
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
To me it was not that hard i liked the Nexus 5 but loved my Moto X the features are just too integrated with me now motorola has a customer for life if they keep this path up!
[Moto X General] sarshadd:
I refrained from getting a Moto X to see what the Nexus5 was about.

My N5 was delivered yesterday, and it's great at being a smart phone, but the Moto X, with Active Display and true Touch-less Control can be much more than just a smart phone.

I just purchased the Moto X Dev Edition (To avoid carrier BS, branding in the Notification area, gap between WiFi and Signal, etc...) but the price really killed me.

I'm going to pay with both simultaneously to see which one I like using more, because my return periods will overlap. Although I already have a feeling it'll be the Moto X.

Shame because I REALLY want to love the Nexus, but I just don't. Maybe I'll spoil myself and keep both, just cause.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
If I could have i would have but in the end i only like the 5 but love the X
[Moto X General] designgears:
Good review, however, I couldn't keep the Moto X very long. The battery was not nearly as good as it was claimed to be in my experience. The somewhat smaller battery in the Nexus 5 is concerning, but I have yet to run it thru the paces.

The wife ended up with the Moto X, and she doesn't use her phone nearly as much as I do during the day. Surprisingly she had trouble getting thru a day at school on a single charge, then it got dropped and shattered... hmmm... wonder if she did that on purpose... haha, well, now she has the S4 and loves it.

Ok, getting back to releasing 4.4 for the AT&T Moto X :)
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Really? What kind if usage was she getting? Before root, I routinely made it through an entire day with 3-4 hours sot, 18hours off charger, WiFi, BT, NFC etc enabled. The only time I ever need to charge, while I'm not sleeping, is if I use hours of navigation or play battery sucking games.

To bad it didn't work out for either of you, it really is a good phone... From the initial reports, if you didn't like the moto x for battery, then you won't like the n5, the verge (don't like them to be honest) did a review and the battery tests was pretty darn poor, 3-4hours life vs the moto x's 7.

Anyways, thanks for that att leak... Wrestling with myself on whether to flash, I'm so damn tempted, but without a way to revert or root, I think I may stand by... Vital, life altering decisions will need to be made. =P
[Moto X General] xpc21:
I always says for people who asks me about Moto X,the phone wasnt built to have high and hard specs but happened that others phone isnt much better at all. You see Moto X compared to the new Nexus 5,for me is respectfull. I think that Nexus line should have more techs, nothing like Moto X innovation but not only pointing to system experience, we have QI charging now,i think Google and Nexus partner could and should do more than that, off course you will have Galaxies,HTC one phones with this high end features but Nexus is the pope of Android,should receive a more high features. But continue talking about Moto X,i still say,this guy is the first sun! Of course the next one will be more graduated but i really dont care,i just love Moto X the way is built and wont change it in nothing.
[Moto X General] AnMotass:
All of you just make me drool while i still have to wait 1 month 9 days, 14 hours, 25 minutes and 32 seconds for my Moto X... ):

Somebody willing to teach me about Moto X handling about rooting, changing roms, etc.? I come from samsung devices...
[Moto X General] showstopper03:
I owned the MX and bought three nexus 5.I just typed this on my moto x :) took me a week to admit what I knew the second I used the nexus 5. I just like the moto x more. This is not me bashing the nexus. just my personal preference.

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Buy Dev or T-Mobile version if you want to do custom roms
[Moto X General] DonDizzurp:
You know what I'm looking forward to? Motorola designing the next Nexus device and using their ergonomics research when creating it. The Moto X feels TOO good in the hand. No phone has ever been this comfortable to hold.
[Moto X General] magicriggs:
I came from the Moto X and after using the Nexus 5 for several days ... I jumped back to my moto X. 3 things I couldn't stand with the N5 are battery, speaker and one hand use. Glad to say I'm back on my X and happy.
[Moto X General] got_killed:
EDIT: Removed quote. Sorry, I realized how huge that was.

Wow, I really needed this post. I've been on the fence between the G2, N5, and Moto X for a week. I actually have a N5 right now with me. It has the yellowish tint so it's defective. It's okay, but that's all. I thought I would be tinkering with my device constantly like I did during my EVO, S2, and GNEX days. But, to be quite honest, I'm tired of it, now. I don't really want to go through the trouble of updating ROMS, erasing my memory, reinstalling apps, etc. It's so time consuming and well, I have a life now, heh.

I thought I'd want the G2 because it's like a N5, but better. And well, it is. But I want to a Sprint store with one on display, and I know I wasn't the only one, but that skin is insanely ugly so I was wondering if I'd want that, but I don't I love the simplistic stock Android look. I drive my car a lot and people call me while on my way home and things like touchless controls and assist are very attractive to me. Kitkat is quite lovely, really, but things like battery life and all of defects are really a turn-off. Plus, I know that the Moto X is skipping 4.3 for 4.4 so I'm excited for that. I've found many Moto X's in my area on Craigslist for CHEAPER than what I've paid for my N5 at as low as 300$ in mint! The community here seems so much smaller compared to the Nexus 5's but I really don't mind. You all seem to be good folk! Looking forward to be heading this route =)
[Moto X General] tweston1:
Same here. I'm sick of tinkering. I had the Note III and G2, and I was messing with them so much that the wife was starting to get pissed. I looked at all the apps I downloaded and realized that a many of them were used to replace the stock TouchWiz and G2 launchers. It's like I had to change everything because stock TW and G2 were horrible for me. Finally, with the Nexus 5, I found that I didn't need to change anything, except the hardware! :eek:

Like you said, Kit Kat is great, I can never go back to any manufacturer skin, ever, but the battery and defects make me wonder what else LG/Google had to skimp on to release this device at that price. Dead pixels or not, the screen isn't very good when compared to the Moto X or G2 or Note III. Not even close.

I am hoping for some really great improvements in 4.4 since Motorola has the inside track on 4.4 via Google. I'm wondering if they've been working on 4.4 for a while now since they've had direct access to the source code.

I love gadgets, and I get excited about the latest and greatest tech, but I'd sooner give up crazy specs for a more useful feature set, and for a no muss no fuss experience. I think the Moto X is going to be the best phone for me. My Moto X will be here next week and, for a few days, I'll have the Nexus 5 and Moto X side-by-side. I'll run some tests, take some notes, and probably write a summary or make a video. I'll have the wife and in-law give me their impressions as well. Non tech enthusiasts should be able to give completely unbiased opinions. I'm excited.
[Moto X General] SanDiegoSteve:
I'm also joining the Moto X club. I just ordered the GSM Dev Edition.

After much weighing of the pros and cons between the X and Nexus 5, the battery life reviews on the N5 and the price drop on the T-Mobile/Dev Edition X sealed the deal. My current phone is also a Motorola that is eligible for the upgrade $100 rebate. So, that makes the X only $50 more than the N5 for me, and from everything I'm reading from you guys, it sounds like it's worth that extra $50. :)

Excited to get me new toy. :)
[Moto X General] tweston1:
Score! Niiicce! :good::good::good::good:
[Moto X General] doubleatheman:
Thanks for posting that link op. Somehow I missed that video in my subscriptions.
[Moto X General] goducks3620:
You all are really selling me on the X vs N5. My old LG Marquee (running CTMOD) needs replacement, and I went to the Sprint store yesterday to check both out. The N5 is a huge screen--it looks like a tablet almost--but I can imagine the battery draining fast with that, and that's a big gripe of my current phone. And it's too big for my pockets, seriously. The X is about the same size as my Marquee (held them up next to each other) but with a much bigger screen. I don't play games on my phone so I don't imagine I need the N5 processor. The X just looks like a better fit for me. Plus I can get it customized starting tomorrow if rumors of Moto Maker are true.
[Moto X General] hurry54:
Nexus 5's battery life is awful, my N5 lost 11% battery life during my sleep, and after 8h 25m using, now it only has 39% left... Screen time on 2h 10m.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
For those still on the fence- I have had the N5 now for a week and I'm already tired of it. Haven't used it in over 2 days. All it has done is make me appreciate the Moto X that much more. The X has a sense of refinement that is without parallel in the current android world. The N5 just seems like a reference slab designed to show off the hardware, not meant for anyone but engineers and developers, certainly not consumers. It feels completely unfinished to me. And the screen is just plain terrible compared to the X's. There really is no comparison between the two devices. Even the S800 doesn't give the N5 any type of advantage. The difference in speed is negligible. Stick with the Moto X, because MetalHead says so.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
I think that this guy:

[YOUTUBE]xpYXEm-ZKDA[/YOUTUBE]

SHOULD have read this thread before...
[Moto X General] got_killed:
Can't wait to get my Moto X. Got one for 290 off contract. Makes it even better knowing that I got it cheaper than my off contract Nexus 5. Like above, I am pretty bored of this phone
[Moto X General] jerseykirby:
Torn

So I'm due for an upgrade and I am so torn between the Moto X, the Note 3, and I know this is blasphemy around here but the iPhone 5S. So many options!!! I wish I can have them all haha.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
iPhone 5S is a great phone with specs that bother those "conservatives" on "higher is better"...

Undisputed camera, great set, terrible OS, premium design...
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Really like that? Damn man you gonna make me buy the moto x.... My favorite thing about the N5 is kitkat hands down.
[Moto X General] dinnydindin:
Wow where did you get that
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Gonna watch this now. That may help me with the decision!
[Moto X General] got_killed:
It's not the unlocked version, though. But, I did not use my upgrade. I found it on eBay. It's a mint condition Sprint model and I ended up winning the bid @ $290.01. I have been seeing more and more people selling their Moto X brand new and unsealed at $300.
[Moto X General] dinnydindin:
Oh that's for sprint. Nice deal. Too bad the att ones are still going for $350+
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
KitKat has a couple cool features (the dialer being one of them...though I hate the look of it), but I will take 4.2 on the Moto X over 4.4 on the N5 any day of the week. If the Moto X never receives another update for as long as I own it I will still choose it over the N5.
[Moto X General] tweston1:
I owned the Note 3 for about a month. All around, it's a great device.

Things I really liked:

S-Pen: I thought this really added some nice features to the overall experience. I used the stylus all the time. That is probably the only reason to get a Note 3 unless you just want the fastest giant screened phone available. I started drawing a lot because of S-Note. It's a really great app. The S-Pen is the only thing I really really really miss about the Note 3.

Screen: Nice. Typical Amoled. I'm a sucker for over-saturation.

Removable Battery/SD card: Convenient

Camera: Not bad. About as good as can be expected from a smartphone if you don't include Nokia's offerings.

Battery: HUGE capacity lasted me ALL DAY, and I consider my usage of the device to be moderate to heavy. Candy Crush all day, YouTube, Netflix... I couldn't kill it. I did get it down to 15% once, but very nice battery life. No screen on times for you, unfortunately.

Things I did NOT like:

TouchWiz: Still not as fluid as Vanilla. That's was annoying for me. I'm really anal about laggy performance, and a phone like this shouldn't have any. If it were to have Vanilla Android on it it would be a) way faster and b) pointless because you'd lose the S-Pen features. Overall, the OS is a little slow when compared to stock Android as evidenced by little things like the keyboard sliding in, delay in wake and sleep when pressing the power button, and others I just can't remember. Janky is the word I've heard used before.

WiFi issues: They still haven't fixed them yet, and many people are having problems.

S-Voice: I guess XDA doesn't have a turd icon.

Speaker phone: See S-Voice.

Plastic pretending to be things it isn't: The faux leather isn't bad, but that shiny metal (plastic) band is hideous, IMO.

Stock notification sounds: Made me puke on several occasions. I was asked if I was bulimic at one point.

Overall, I liked the phone, but I just can't live with TouchWiz, MotoBlur (rip), LGWiz (unnamed), Sense(less, but better than the others). Besides that, the phone is just too big. I liked having the extra screen space, but I couldn't comfortable fit it into a pocket, and that's just not going to work out for me. I would take the Nexus 5 over the Note III, and I'd certainly take the Moto X over the Note 3.
[Moto X General] sleepyguy007:
I couldn't make it through the review. His voice was just killing me.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I never tried the moto x but I would prefer staying on kitkat than being stuck on 4.2.2. I never liked stock android but kitkat has changed my mind.

Also the locked boot loader for the ATT version is terrible.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
What need does one have for an unlocked bootloader when the stock ROM is nigh perfect? Never have I had a phone before that I had absolutely ZERO desire to flash a ROM on. Root + Xposed is all the Moto X needs to be perfect.

And as far as 4.4 goes, it really isn't some amazing new update like people are making it out to be. Again, it's got some cool new features but IMO they made it downright ugly by ditching Holo for the new white + pastel look. There is nothing on 4.4 that I yearn for when using my Moto X. I don't care about being on the bleeding edge of software updates. Give me a great phone with great software with great features that works out of the box and I'm happy. I'm not one of those guys that freaks out when it takes a couple months to receive an update. In fact, updates kinda scare me. I don't know what kind of bugs they are going to introduce or if they are going to screw with my battery life, etc... The Moto X doesn't need an update. To 4.anything. I keep saying it, but if it never receives another update, I will still be a very happy camper.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I respect your opinion. But i personally much prefer the new look in 4.4, it looks super clean. If the NExus 5 had a better speaker i wouldnt even consider the moto x. Battery life is acceptable for me and the phone is lightning fast. But i like the shape of the moto x and i love trying new phones.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
And I respect yours as well, everybody has their own tastes. The N5 definitely is lightning fast, and gaming on it is amazing. If the Moto X wasn't around, the N5 would most certainly be my phone of choice, I just really, really love the X.

I don't get what all the fuss is over the N5's speaker. I think it sounds just fine for its purpose. Mine doesn't distort at all at full volume, and it gets plenty loud. My only complaint about the speaker is its placement. My palm/finger always covers it when I'm playing games in landscape. It's really annoying.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Edit: The speaker sound is good but its just too low. Other than that I absolutely love the Nexus 5 and I have now decided that I'll stick with it.
[Moto X General] caanda45:
Interesting thread, got my N5 2 days ago....traded it today for a laptop...good trade, I did very well, ended up with the HP Folio-9470M.....but the real point of this post is the Moto X.... I bought last nite and unlocked it.

IMHO it is a superior phone as compared to the N5, right size, nice screen (the MX). Specs are meh as far as I am concerned the MX is great except if you play games, I do not so it does not matter to me. The real killer aspect of this phone is the touch-less aspect of the os, and the notifications is a real cool feature to. The speaker on the N5 sucked, the off axis screen of the N5 was very washed out.....Still to early as I really just got it going, first impressions are that I made a good decision to dump my N5.....

Just reading about rooting, not sure if I will, so far I do not see a need to root but maybe anyone can give me reasons to root and rom this phone....pretty darn happy so far!!!!!
[Moto X General] lensgrabber:
I've been using Viper4android on the N5 trying to make it sound as good as the X through headphones. I just can't do it. The X sounds better every.single.song.
[Moto X General] planoman:
Anytime you compare two devices, both have pluses and minuses.

I too, like several features of both devices. I say if you can you should get both. The Moto is sweet, but I like the updates from my Nexus devices so I want both. I have heard many say the Moto X will receive timely updates but that remains to be seen.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
And to be fair to the nexus 5, once development takes off its gonna be even more amazing. There are already ROMs like cataclysm and kernels by Franco and Faux.
[Moto X General] jedah:
I was about 99% sold on the Moto X b/c of the compact size, features, and battery life. However w/ the all the hype w/ the release and b/c I wasn't certain when Motomaker was coming, I had a knee jerk reaction and quickly bought the 32GB N5 before it sold out w/ the thought I'd just return it if I didn't like it.

Now that I have the N5 in hand (received it last night), I find myself being seduced by the beautiful screen, buttery smooth performance, and the build (pleasant soft touch back and the super light weight somewhat makes the larger device easier to handle).

And b/c I'm a cheap b__rd, the price talks to me too (I'm on T-Mo so I have to buy off contract anyway). Maybe I'm blown away b/c I'm coming from a SGS2 and my bar is relatively low. But, now I find it very difficult to decide between these two awesome devices.