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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
I'm sorry, I think I need to bow out. To my understanding safestrap was based off of TWRP, but was not exactly the same. So I don't understand how you are running TWRP on top of safestrap?

If you're just running safestrap, I don't think you can completely wipe the stock slot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] moin786:
Yes i am running Safestrap which is based off of TWRP...

So u mean to say i cant use format data option in Safestrap?

I usually do Factory Date Reset...then go to Advance Wipe and wipe all partitions...

but when i go in Format Data...It says Failed...so i thought i must be doing wrong somewhere...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
A 'normal' wipe is just using slider which wipes cache, dalvik, data, and system. In the ADVANCED option you have micro sd card and data. If just using the slider wipes normal data but not internal sd card, possibly the data option in ADVANCED wipes internal data? No sense in ADVANCED data wipe performing the same function as the basic slider...

Otherwise I'd remove ext sd card and go to android recovery do a factory reset, flash mje tar in odin, start from scratch.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] moin786:
Hi, yes you are correct...but when i got to Format Data section and type yes...why it says Format failed...throws those errors...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Unfortunately I've not used the Format Data function. So I can't say for sure. Have you tried checking data in ADVANCED? Does that wipe internal sd card? Try YES in all caps in Format Data...

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] moin786:
Seems like its a known issue in Safestrap and Hashcode is currently working on it...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jawonder:
I see on twitter where Adam Outler may have broken through the Bootloader :http://goo.gl/fb/5QUWY
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Jurassitol:
Sweet news
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] moin786:
Nice News...finally we can flash custom Kernels...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TheLoonyRebel:
Just want to correct you on several things here:

1 - Adam Outler simply took an screencap posted by ryanbg in this thread here.

In fact here's a link to the very post made by ryanbg with said image.

2 - The "Qualcomm Secureboot" set to "None" isn't bringing us any closer to unlocking the bootloader sadly according to jcase.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] hsomnus:
Outler himself stated as much but that he is working on it. And, although it doesn't unlock the bootloader it does get us a step closer and is proof that someone is still working toward that end!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] TheLoonyRebel:
Very true. Sorry if I sounded mean earlier but I just wanted to clarify in my previous post on things since there's been some misconceptions that the bootloader is already unlocked after that picture got posted. I am excited on this bringing us closer to that however. :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] hsomnus:
Not a problem. You are correct...it has created a lot of confusion. Sadly that confusion has taken what should be fairly good news and made it seem more of a downer. Im still excited that people of their caliber are still interested in kicking verizon's and Samsung's asses on this device!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
LOL, that is the tiniest picture ever, regardless, if it's getting closer, that is good news.

Although, I really like safestrap, it will kind of be sad if it's no longer needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mjolden81:
Ok so for update apk of safestrap I go back into my stock slot , open ss apk uninstall recorery, unintall ss apk, install new ss apk, install recovery then boot back into slot to do I need to back up my second slot for this
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Jurassitol:
No need to uninstall the ss apk once recovery is removed and no need to backup other slots. Everything else looks to be in good order. Backups are nice to have but it's your phone and you decide if you NEED a backup.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mjolden81:
Ok I just installed newest ss but everytime I go into xposed wanam exposed I get custom settings crashed help plz
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
Backups are taking much longer

I am running 3.70 Safestrap - no problems.

Yesterday I moved from a 32gb card to a 64gb card. Everything seems pretty smooth, but I notice that Safestrap backups now take double or triple the amount of time. From roughly 7 minutes to over 30 minutes.

Not a big problem, but I am wondering if I'm doing something wrong. I am only backing up the data and system (no cache) and am not using any compression. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,

B
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
Which format is on the 64GB card?

Frank

SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
I believe it is FAT32? Does it need to be converted to ex-fat? I've been rooting and romming for quite awhile, but I've never ventured into 64bb territory, so any information would be very much appreciated.

I was also thinking perhaps I should re-install Safestrap. But not sure.

If it helps, I've got nothing on the card that can't be deleted.

Thanks,

Barbara
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Known issue. Get into wanam by clicking on xposed, framework, modules, wanam

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---------- Post added at 02:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:22 PM ----------

I'm pretty sure this is what SS 3.71 covers. Ex-fat for 64gb sdcard. ..

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] christianpeso:
Experienced this yesterday. Running 3.71 and did a Nandroid. Took much longer than before when I was on 3.65. Dont have any hard numbers, but I am 100% sure it took longer. The amount of data was the same, about 3GB. Same MicroSD card formatted in exFat and the same data already on the card. It took longer by about 10 minutes or so. Just an estimate.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jr_718:
I think it's just external sdcard takes longer..had experienced a backup that took 20mins.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Hashcode:
Yes, there is a current bug in Safestrap which brings up this error.

But also, there is an issue here.. if you Format Data as it's intending, then it would formal the entire internal storage + data partition. And that means all your rom-slots, and anything on the internal "sdcard". I'm not sure this is what you want, is it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
You should find out for sure which format it has.

- SS 3.70 does not have exfat support so if it is exfat then something very wrong might be happening.

- If you want to store very large ROMs on the card then it should be formatted in exfat (Windows), ext3, or ext4 (Linux).

- Linux can be made to handle exfat.

- If the card is exfat, or if you change it to exfat, then you need to replace SS 3.70 with SS 3.71.

- If you are using a version of Windows that will offer to format it in exfat then that is your best choice. For portability, this might also be your best choice for Linux.

ADDED

Regarding the backup times, I don't know. It might be that the larger filesystem is to blame, or it might be because FAT32 is very inefficient with such a large card, or it might be that you bought a lower quality card with a much lower transfer rate. There is a great difference in transfer rates on some of these cards.

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mwebb34:
I know this is a stupid question and it shouldnt go here but....how do i uninstall safestrap v3.70? Im wanting v3.65 back on my device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
Others have done that. When you uninstall any version it leaves your device as if you had never installed it. Really, only Hashcode can say that for sure, but that is the normal thing for "uninstall". Just don't forget to have the SafeStrap application do it's internal uninstall first, then use Android to uninstall the SafeStrap application, then install 3.65.

Frank

SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] mwebb34:
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] my sandisk 32gb is formated to fat32 will 3.71 work ok or do i need to reformat to exfat?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
I believe SS 3.71 addresses the EX fat for the 64 GB ext sdcard (due to it's immense size) and that is the primary change from 3.70 to 3.71. What changed from 3.65 to 3.70 that is borking some folks stuff on some roms when running some apps is above my pay grade and knowledge level :D

I'm sure I'll be corrected if the above is incorrect as there is a TON of experience and knowledge in this thread!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] gatorhater73:
Sorry if this has been addressed, but the thread is 618 pages and counting and a search doesn't really narrow it down. I'm new to SS and the Note 3, running MJE and SS 3.65. Went through the install process without an issue, created rom-slot 1 using the default partition sizes and installed my ROM. Did not touch slots 2-4. Now my available storage seems all whacked out. In root explorer I'm showing 19+GB of available storage n my internal drive (which should be correct) but my Storage from the setting menu is showing less than 1GB available, with 30+GB in "Miscellaneous Files."

Any input please? Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Imadroider:
Hmm my browser shows the thread as being at 62 pages so far. Anyway, if you install in any of the numbered rom slots you'll get that. If you want your storage reading true you need to install to the stock rom slot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
618 comments maybe :silly:

Yes, if you are booting to Rom Slots 1-4, the INTERNAL MEMORY reported in SETTINGS>Storage will be inaccurate due to the multiple slots being activated.

If you want/need accurate storage readings, you have to be running from the Stock Rom Slot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] gatorhater73:
That is what I figured but I hadn't seen anything to that effect in the material I'd read about Safestrap.

And yes, I did mean 618 posts, not pages, thank you for seeing through my mistake and answering the question!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
No worries, it's all good. I knew what you meant, that's why I put out the silly eyes :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ilpleasu:
A Few Things To Consider When Using Multiple Rom Slots:

Don't know if this will help or not but I followed this...where it talks about "A Few Things To Consider When Using Multiple Rom Slots:"

***NOTE: When rebooting your device, you have to option to CONTINUE to your current ROM, or enter RECOVERY (Safestrap) after several seconds CONTINUE is the default action. If you are booting to your STOCK Slot you will see SAFESTRAP DISABLED this is NORMAL. When booting to slots 1-4 you will see SAFESTRAP ENABLED***

CREATING VIRTUAL ROMS SLOTS

1. Reboot phone

2. Click Recovery Button when SS splash screen pops up

3. Click one of the rom slots [1-4] then click the Create ROM button [I left default values to test out the ROM. People say that its fine for most, but adjust date portion of partition if you use lots of apps]

4. Once the ROM slot has been created, browse back into the previously created slot.

5. Click Activate

6. Then click Install

7. Browse to whatever ROM .zip you download

8. Done

How To Flash Daily Driver Into Stock Rom Slot

1. Back up Stock Slot to sdcard

2. Restore back up Stock Rom to open ROM slot 1-4 (optional)

3. Boot from restored slot to ensure functionality (optional)

4. Wipe Stock Slot (no dev support for dirt flashes)

5. Flash/Restore Rom to Stock Slot

6. Delete un-used ROM slots 1-4 (you can only delete a ROM from the slot, the empty slot remains)

7. Boot into Rom on Stock slot

8. Enjoy.

A Few Things To Consider When Using Multiple Rom Slots:

You can flash roms in slots 1-4 and stock slot. Activate whichever slot you'd like to boot from the next time, and your specific rom to upgrade, test, whatever comes up at boot. Ready to switch back to another rom, activate THAT rom slot, reboot to your next rom...

Realize each rom slot has a max limit for data partition and system partition. If you are an app intensive user or like seeing an accurate reading of your internal and ext storage, I'd reco putting your daily driver on the stock slot (backup stock rom, keep on sdcard, flash daily driver in stock slot)...

If you like running multiple roms (skip step5 above), when you activate a rom on slots 1-4, your int and ext memory will NOT read accurately, and you will be limited on how much storage you have on each slot.

Flashing your DD on the stock slot gives you access to ALL the int and ext memory, and ALL memory is properly reported. :rolleyes:

By the way, I'm using SS 3.65 on CR 1.5 SM-N900V Flawless....

Hope that this will help...........
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Jurassitol:
+1 great explanation
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
Thank you for your time in responding to my questions. I've done some more research, and here's what I am finding. After the unsuccessful experience with FAT card, I tried using 64gb that is formatted exFAT. And I have experienced the same thing, which is long, long backup times. And there seems to be a pattern -- the more I backup, the longer the backup takes. For instance, the first backup with a newly formatted 64gb card takes about 500 seconds. The next backup (same size of file) then takes about 950, the next is about 1700, all way up to 3000 seconds. Which makes this system un-workable for me.

However, the 64gb card was just a luxury so I could play with more backups. I've decided to return to my old 32gb card, which is just fine. It allows me to quickly backup before testing new items....... well, you all know how that works!

I will look forward to reading other folks' experiences with a larger card - I'm sure I will learn something.

B
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
That's really well written! Where'd you find fantastic instructions like those? :p :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] DutchDogg54:
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery :angel:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
See if you get the same on your PC, but I don't think this is related to SafeStrap.

Frank

SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ilpleasu:
By the way cheap sd cards just don't get it! I found out the hard way... plus I did my share of reading.

After readingfrom so many different forums, I always copy the info to the hard drive on my home pc then revert back to it as needed.

This is the sd card that I use: SanDisk Extreme Plus 64 GB microSDHC Class 10 UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter 80MB/s (SDSDQX-064G-U46A)

SanDisk.....it is soooooooo fast trust me. ..

Oh I will try to find the site where this information came from. .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
I was just messin with you, no need to find the link, I think I have it :D it's ALL good man! Life's short, live it, share the knowledge, and carry a rooted N3!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ilpleasu:
Lol lol lollol 4 sho....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
Thanks for suggestion. I did my research before purchasing the 64gb card. Wasn't looking for cheap - based on feedback from these forums I chose the Samsung brand. But think I will return it and try the SanDisk Extreme. Can't hurt.

B
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ilpleasu:
After having bad luck with other sd cards in previous high end Android phones, I only purchase the SanDisk Extreme with 80MB/s or better..

Just my choice. ...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
I wasn't thinking it was a flaw with Safestrap, but I was thinking there might be some type of setting or special procedure to use when swapping out cards.

Thanks again,

Barb
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Jurassitol:
I use the same SanDisk extreme plus 64gb, backups are blazing. Best card I've had in a phone yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Atrix2destroyer:
Cant install any ROM

I used Safestrap on wiht my S4 running 4.3 with the newer version meant for it (3.7.1) and i was able to install a ROM at first installation. I went in today and tried to install a couple of GPE roms and it didnt work. It would just kind of bootloop, and no i dont have encryption enabled. I wiped the ROM slot then created a new one and then tried to install Wicked 9.1 and it did the same thing even though that was a ROM that worked before. Any ideas?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
I ordered one from Amazon - should arrive later today. Can't wait to try it out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Since it's easy enough, uninstall 3.71 ("uninstall recovery" within SS), then uninstall SS app like any app, install SS 3.65 (stable) install app like any other app, grant su permission, open app "install recovery", then try and flash the rom again. Easy troubleshooting to verifiy if it is version of SS causing problems.. Make sure you verify all SS versions and procedures are GOOD to run on S4... and SS 3.71 update is EXFAT support fix for 64gb sdcard
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] nabour:
Thanks, guys for the information on sd cards. I got my SanDisk Extreme from Amazon today and it works beautifully. No problems whatsoever with backups. Happy camper.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] ilpleasu:
Very wise decision, good luck my friend..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
Is it possible to change the size of a ROM slot? I gave ROM slot one way more space than it would ever need with the intention of only using one custom ROM at a time because that's all I've ever known. Now I want to run two since I can, I'd like to basically start over and make ROM slot 1 not so huge.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
4 gb is max for rom slot partitions, system is usually good at default size, increase data partition to 4 gb max.

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
That's just it, I DO want to run 2 ROM's now, and I like keeping the stock ROM stock. It gives me that warm fuzzy feeling.

That's for the suggestion though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Yeah I saw that after I posted and changed it... you're fast :D

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] hipporun:
Help

Hey I really need help. I have att note 3 and I was flashing a new ROM so I did advanced wipe and wiped system. But accidently, Instead of installing rom zip right away, i rebooted system. So now im stuck on samsung note 3 screen and cant get system to boot or get to safestrap. Please help me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Jurassitol:
Odin is your friend.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Check out the ODIN link in my sig. Step by step instructions to get you up and running again :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] echodeluxe:
can i only flash supported roms or wil cyanogenmod work?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] DutchDogg54:
No aosp on retail version because of our locked bootloader... It doesn't allow flashing kernels. Cyanogen is currently only for the dev edition.

Sent courtesy of my Note 3 & XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] FAL_Fan:
Rom slot size

Is there a way to increase the rom slot size beyond it's current capacity? I only have stock and rom slot 1 active and do not want any others, so can I modify it to allow a larger partition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] DutchDogg54:
No way currently. Hashcode said earlier in the thread he could possibly expand it but there was a reason he wasn't going to do it now.

Sent courtesy of my Note 3 & XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] FAL_Fan:
Thank you Dutch! I didn't see that, I hope he changes it soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] jayhammy:
This is what I did: I backed up my stock ROM in safestrap. Then, wiped stock ROM and installed Beans ROM. That way, space is only limited to what you have on your device. I'd check the board for more info.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Joe92T:
Im sorry if this has been asked before, but its not very clear - Will this work with the MJE OTA As well or only the earlier versions? I just rooted 10 minutes ago with Kingo on the MJE build, looking to get safestrap
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] highdro:
Yes it works. I would recommend using the stable version. The beta versions cause weird stuff to happen for some people.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Yep, works fantastic with MJE... unless you have a 64gb ext sdcard, I'd recommend installng 3.65 (last stable version)... I have a safestrap 'how to' in the Note 3 link in my sig... everything you'll need :)

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] sean09232:
I have a ?. I purchased used note 3 on swappa already rooted with safe strap but the previous owner flashed hyper drive in the stock rom slot and I made a backup of it not knowing it was the stock slot. I'm just wondering if restoring the backup or having a rom flashed in Stock slot is going to be an issue
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Booting to a rom in Stock slot allows your available storage to be accurately displayed. Run any rom you want in stock slot, (keep/get stock rom and mje tar file, put on ext sdcard just in case)... I have a tutorial on safestrap and flashing to stock slot in my sig. Welcome to the GN3!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Frank Westlake:
Hashcode is pretty busy, do you think we should suggest that he add MJE to the thread's title, or just tell people if they ask?

Frank

SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Both would probably be the most effective route. If he has time he'll update title/OP... if he doesn't we'll help hold down the fort :D I'll PM him...

Update: PM sent

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Hashcode:
OP title updated to include MJE :) Thanks [MENTION=5545307]Frank Westlake[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4670411]az_biker[/MENTION].
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
Is there a way to delete a ROM slot?? To free up internal storage space? Or rather decrease the size of a ROM slot that is currently being used?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Only thing you can do is delete the rom(s) from the slot(s). Unactivated slots remain, but theoretically use no storage until activated.

You can reduce the size of the system and/or data partitions to free up space, but remember if booting from slots 1-4 your reported available storage will be incorrect.

For max available storage, flash daily driver to stock slot, backup/delete all other roms...

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Big Cam:
OK, then when I re-activate it can I choose a smaller size? I went overboard the first time around and maxed out most fields. Thinking I'd only be using the one slot as a daily driver.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] Az Biker:
Yeah, when activating slot, prior to flashing rom, reduce system and data partitions in slot to be flashed. IIRC, system needs about 1 gb and data depends on number of apps.

Try min data 1.5 gb...

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Android Development] dougdirt:
Looking for some guidance. For some reason I can no longer restore my backups. It says restore complete after only about a minute. Then when I reboot system it goes to the setup wizard of that rom I was trying to restore. Like I'm flashing it all over again. Of course I wipe the slot before trying to restore. Anyone else ever see this?