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[Moto X General] Confidentuno:
Yes they pulled it from being applied to phones. It only works on accessories now
[Moto X General] dannypp:
Wait, so does the TMobile motomaker Moto X not come sim-unlocked? If it doesn't, can one just call up TMobile and get it unlocked?

I got one for my mom so she can use it on AT&T off contract. Will it get AT&T LTE? I thought that AT&T LTE will work on this phone since it is supposed to be the same as the GSM Dev exactly, except for logo, etc.
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
It's SIM unlocked out of the box.
[Moto X General] dannypp:
Rhiannon, did you try it with another SIM yourself?
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
No but I can at work tomorrow. Why have you tried?
[Moto X General] dannypp:
No, I haven't, but I just received 2 new TMobile motomaker Moto X's and want to confirm before opening them.

One is for my mom who will use it on AT&T off contract, the other is for me which will be used on Tmobile and in South America where I spend many months of the year.

But I will open them tomorrow I guess and know for sure. Seems that Motorola does allow for returns with no fees, even opened unless I am mistaken.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
I tried with an att sim to test and no issues. It is unlocked out of the box as it should be.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Using two T-Mobile Moto Maker Xs on ATT right now. Work perfectly.

Sent from my XT1053
[Moto X General] dannypp:
And I assume you are getting LTE on ATT with no problem right?
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
How many confirmations do you need? You even started another thread in q&a. It works already!
[Moto X General] dannypp:
Nobody specifically said that it was getting LTE on AT&T. That's all I was trying to confirm.

Chill out.
[Moto X General] Rhiannon224:
It has the same bands, the only difference is more bands for T Mobile version.

I am chill.
[Moto X General] dannypp:
Good to hear :)
[Moto X General] methodz:
Do people still use "LOL"? Haha
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
Does anyone know if they do soak test for T-Mobile or push the update without the test. Saw posts for ATT soak, hopefully we get the kitkat update this week :)
[Moto X General] mavericktc:
Can someone explain this to me?

I live in Sweden and I will order a t-mobile version when the wooden backs gets released.

I have a friend who lives in the states so I will send the phone to him and he will send it to me.

Is it possible for me to pay the phone with my mastercard or visa or MUST the credit card come from the states?

//Per (new on the forum:good:)
[Moto X General] rok503:
You MUST use the credit/debit card released from the states. (AE card might work, but I'm not sure.)

Maybe you can get some help from your friend.

And beware if you got a dash"-" in the name on card. Just leave it to be space.

Good Luck !
[Moto X General] mavericktc:
Interesting, wonder why. My friend doesn't live there permanently so I don't think he's got a American credit card.

I can try with my MC (if no one knows anything for sure).

About the wooden backs, anyone know when they are coming?
[Moto X General] mavericktc:
So I tried to use my credit cards by ordering a skip. Got several error messages so I tried with another credit card and the same result on that one.

Sometimes the foreign characters in my last name can send me some errors and therefor I tried again.

Nothing worked....

I then went to my internetbank to check if they draw some money and yes, they did. 340 dollars are now in pending charges.

What the hell is wrong with motorolas website and who shall I contact (calling is way to expensive)? I posted on motorolas forum.

This is way OT, sorry for that.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aburmali:
:( how to unlock md2 compact 2 (s110) many thanx
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] brykins:
Is the MDA Compact II the same as the Qtek S110? Looking at the two, they seem different to me:

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatche...phones_ews_overview&menuid=ctl_phones_details <- this is the MDA Compact II and states it has Windows Mobile 5.

http://www.qtek.nu/europe/products/s110.aspx <- this is the Qtek S110 and states that it has Windows Mobile 2003 SE.

Two different beasts? Two different unlocks? I am having my MDA Compact II delivered tomorrow morning and would love to be able to unlock it to put my O2 sim in until the number is ported.....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aburmali:
mda compact II t- mobile

Thank you for your help.My one is T mobile operating system is WM5.if you find the unlock program please let me know.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Were not getting our sweet new software:'( *update I emailed lg why and this was they're answer*
[AT&T LG Optimus G] canisofwar:
You can always do it yourself
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Yea but I find it sad that a phone that's still competing in the smartphone world is being pushed to the side
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
So much for 18 months of support. Guess we where lucky to even get 4.1 out of LG
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Looks that way:/ lg always pushes they're"unpopular"phones a side
[AT&T LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
Should be happy that the e970 is pretty much identical to the Nexus 4. We already have kitkat... so it does not really matter. Hell, we were one of the first devices to get 4.4
[AT&T LG Optimus G] REDFOCZ:
Even though that's the case LG is dropping support for a phone that is less than a year old.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
While this may be true, it is still speculation.

The proper question should have been if the OG will be getting 4.2, 4.3, or any update. They just said no to 4.4, which is like 3 version above their last update. I do not know of many (if any) devices that have skipped 3 updates to the latest and greatest.

I'm just stoked that this device has got updated at all. Was not cool spending a truck load of $$$ on 3 of the 1st dual core phones, Motorola Atrix 4g..... that device received ZERO updates.

I learned the hard way to never again buy a phone with the hopes of getting OTA updates. Will either buy a Nexus device, or like I did with the OG... research phones that have the same hardware as a Nexus device.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
But you still loose lte.. Its a HUGE step from 3g

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mopo01:
While we may have kit kat it would have been nice to have a LG stock version also
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Exactly I could easily flash a kitkat ROM but I want a stock stable version you know?

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] blenkows:
For me, it's not even about wanting 4.4 since the major ROMs will all have it within the next few months. It's more about the fact that LG completely ****ed OG users with their godawful updates. I mean, we basically JUST got 4.1 after waiting how long? And then they go ahead and stop development after that? That just pisses me off. While I can easily flash a 4.4 ROM, it's more about principal for me.

LG can make a good device. They were calling the LGOG the "new and improved LG" and trying to restore LG's name with this device. Then they do this for their "flagship" device? That is seriously messed up. I am never going to get another LG-supported device again.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
It was released with outdated software so it wouldn't take the spotlight away from N4. Secondly, if LG were to supply an update AT&T would file it in the trash.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
I would love a stock version of the latest greatest OS and I'm not disagreeing with any of you on that, but we all have to be realistic about it. It is a pretty well known fact that many and most major corporation are only concerned about profit. The mobile phone business is a extremely competitive business. Releasing the newest OS every time it rolls out costs money for development as they need more developers to maintain every device. Also that would increase the amount of time a person will hold onto a phone, which leads to less phones being sold. They also know that a huge percentage of buyers are going to buy a new damn phone every 6 months just so they can have the latest and greatest. So you will have better odds of winning the lottery, then these companies changing their update policies anytime soon.

It does not matter which company you get a phone from, LG, Motorola, Samsung.... they will all screw you with updates. Samsung may be slightly better with updates, but you still get screwed on updates. My friend has the S4, he has it bone stock and is still on 4.2. It was just confirmed for that device that they will not be getting 4.4 anytime soon. The S4 will get 4.3 soon.... but it will be months before they get 4.4 and it could even be longer then that.

It is what it is. Us consumers are going to get screwed regardless. BUT.... we have the power to be smart consumers. Which is why we are all here at this forum. We are taking the power into our own hands and increasing the life expectancy for our devices on our own.

So there really is nothing to be unhappy about. If you are smart about which phone to buy, you have nothing to worry about. We are all here to help and learn from each other to make our device better then these corporations hand them out to us. The power of this community puts a smile on my face every time. We have control over our (phones) destiny, not them. I would rather rely on the power of the people then rely on the power of some corporation that does not give a **** about you.

lol /end rant :highfive:
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
All you have to say it were trapped by corporations and were stuck here probably forever because they don't care about the consumers they care about the money they get if the consumers give it to them they already got what they wanted now they're like **** it we have our money

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] autosurgeon:
How does complaining about it help? I mean I understand where you guys are coming from but I buy devices that have awesome hardware and enjoy pushing them to their potential myself and of course with the help of our awesome devs.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Well yea but isn't it great to go back to stock and just chill without worrying about anything crashing or screwing up?

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Sub-Negro:
Well geez LG thanks for nothing this is what I absolutely hate abut Android phone compared to the Iphones. They typically get years of support unless you buy a Nexus device you could be ****ed.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] MiZrY:
Some people can only see the negative in things, and fail to see the positive that far outweighs the negative.

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So much hate.... :eek:

Why do you even have an android then?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Its not androids problem.!$ its lg androids waaayyyy better then apple you can't compare man

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] cyraxx84:
You know what, as i bought my G i knew this and its not a big deal for me. I just wanted a good and powerfull device and this is what i get with my OG. And for a great Software there's XDA.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] liltennisdudexx:
If lg keeps this up and doesn't release update for the optimus g, I swear I will never buy anything lg again. So much for putting trust in them, just to be screwed all over again
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
If you go to LG firmware download page you will see that only one phone was ever updated more than one full OS. It went from donut to froyo, or eclair to gingerbread.

---------- Post added at 08:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 AM ----------

https://www.lg.com/global/support/o...tegoryId=CAT00000001&osCategoryId=CAT00000002
[AT&T LG Optimus G] atifsh:
Well he said kikat so there's some hope for you. :) :P
[AT&T LG Optimus G] charleswesde:
Give me a break..... Couldn't resist, too easy.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Zunex95:
My father has a Samsung Galaxy S3 and just received the 4.3 update via OTA. By the way I agree with you. There's only one thing however. Sure, we can make even 4.4 and hell, even 5.0 happen but I had to admit that LG created a very fluid, smooth, stable stock experience. I'm only using CM 10.2 with neighborhacker's kernel, because of that faux sound support combined with dps manager. Alongside with the volume rocker music controls. The last one is working on stock so thats out. AFAIK Kitkat has volume rocker music controls built in.

Also camera performance is better on CM in my opinion. I'm expecting 4.3 update from LG. OpenGL ES 3.0 would be nice. So I can be up to date with my little gaming console :)
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Something all the whiners in this thread need to step back a think how few E970's were sold and how quickly it got discounted and EOL'd. It doesn't make a lick of sense to expend resources on a phone hardly anyone bought. The galaxy series is enormously popular, and that's why they get updates. Trying to compare those sales numbers with lgog is so retarded that if I actually thought about it seriously then my head would explode.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mopo01:
The way I see it is the"whiners"just want a updated (4.3, 4.4) stock. If some devs (I don't have the skills :( wish I did) would port the g2 stock for instance they wouldn't be whining. :cool:
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
Ports suck ass compared to built from source. Folks need that drilled into their heads with a 1" diamond drill bit.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] blenkows:
As I said before, I couldn't care less about stock. Even if the OG somehow did manage to get stock 4.4, I wouldn't run it. I'd stick with an AOSP ROM. Hell I'm still on 4.2. Like I said, its about principal for me.

____

Sent from my LG Original Gangsta
[AT&T LG Optimus G] carnes:
Another option is wait for nexus 4 get the update of kit-kat and apply de convertion.. do all the fixes (sd card/gps/buttons/etc/) compatible with kit-kat ...
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Ah who cares anymore right? I'd just get bored of stock and leave to go to slim bean anyways

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Update LGS new answer is that the carrier hasn't released any details about it which means there's still hope!

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] dandrumheller:
Nah. Just LG passing the buck so you hate on your carrier instead of LG. There won't be any more updates for US LGOGs.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
That's what I thought at first too

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] dbshane:
I'm feeling good using the stock 4.1.2, also I don't see too many improvements since 4.1, so I guess I don't need 4.3 or 4.4 that much
[AT&T LG Optimus G] streetsmart999:
The biggest drawback in non stock Roms is lack of good camera.... Nothing beats stock camera on this phone.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Well I'm running g the slimrom and I think my cams better then stock

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] streetsmart999:
Isn't stock Google cam in it? I will try though. Thanks
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Nope its custom

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] streetsmart999:
Honest Question? are you sure its not AOSP Camera? Cos most the AOSP roms come with AOSP camera except for Focal, i don't see Slim having any new camera... I might be wrong here, can you tell me what camera do they use?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
No cause when I had the beanstalk ROM it had a terrible aosp can now I'm on slim it has a different look to it and takes amazing pics

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] kufusoto:
This right here is the reason I have up my G and got the note 3
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
But that doesn't make sense I'm capturing images better then my Buddy's s4 and my other friends note 3 hell I even compared them to a cannon with 21 mp and it still beat it

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] streetsmart999:
yes this phone outperforms S4 any given time and condition. my cousin has S4 and he was disappointed when we compared the pictures with LGOG..
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Bloodember:
When I bought this phone I knew LG's reputation with updates, I was amazed we even got one update. It would have been nice to get another since the phone is only a year old, but that's LG for you.

This is the reason I have switched to a custom ROM.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] cooltobe:
wont the e975 be getting kitkat ? wont it's stock be patched up to work with this one ?

still dont have one yet ,stumbled between e975 and e970 (sd slot :silly: )
[AT&T LG Optimus G] dnd61:
Never buy any LG products again!
[AT&T LG Optimus G] aznracer62:
This phone cannot outperform a dslr. It has a good camera but I would not choose it over a dslr. If your phone takes better pics than your Canon, you should probably get that fixed.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] DeathmonkeyGTX:
He could just be an incompetent photographer that doesn't have the slightest inkling as to the operation of his camera.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
For one that's rude as **** two your ignorant and three yes it could if you could look at the understanding that just because the fact that something says it has (for example the Nokia 1020 or whatever it is) 41 mp um I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have 41 because if it did it would have to be almost 5 times bigger then it is so before you come into this forum and say some ignorant ass **** that doesn't involve you then shut the **** up and go somewhere else we aren't looking for pessimistic people to comment here were in a discussion about the phone we all love so be gone troll

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
And who gives two ****s about a camera were talking about kitkat not a smartphone camera

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] aznracer62:
Ok you obviously don't understand photography. I know it's not about the megapixels but you're comparing a phone to a dslr. It's about sensor size. The reason why the Nokia gets so much praise is because its sensor. It's a combination of multiple standard phone camera sensors. I could set my Canon's megapixel size to 1 megapixel and it will beat this phone. Again, it's the sensor size not megapixel. I love this phone don't get me wrong but now matter how many optimizations this phone gets regarding its camera, it is physically unable to out perform a dslr.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Thanks for explaining it better and the cannon I tried had a blurry pic thank you for explaining it instead of saying "you don't know what your talking about*

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Sub-Negro:
Can we please get back to LG sucking for not giving us 4.4?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] mr turtle droid:
Well you have to think though they already have some other phones they're working on and are probably busy

Sent From My Liberated E970
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Bloodember:
That's really not an excuse to not update a phone that is just one year old, Google asked that all phones get updates for 18 months, and hardly any manufactures does that. LG is one of the biggest culprits, their phones rarely get even one update. They seem not to care for their customers, and only sales. I personally like many LG phones, its just their track record on updates that has ruined my view of them. I will probably switch to a Nexus. The Nexus 5 might be made by LG, but is updated by Google, so I know I'll get my updates, 18 months anyway.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] gregdolley:
That's sucks, but I pretty much expected as much. Carriers are now not supporting new releases once the phone is over six to nine months old. It doesn't do them any good. They want you to buy their newest phones to get the newer software.

Screw them, I will just install whatever CM version becomes the port for KitKat. I'm very tempted to try to do the port myself if no one beats me to it.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] brionbey:
After LG dropped the ball on me with G2x, I swore I'd never get another LG phone.

Glad that I took a chance on e970. Best Android I've had.

Not worried that LG is pretty much dropping support for it in soon.

It will be doing us a favor.

Anybody know when CM will be pushing an update?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] optimusv45:
CM 10.2 ? RC's been out for a few days already.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] gregdolley:
RC1 was just released around the 27th of Nov (a few days ago). I'm running it on my main phone, and also running my own build of cm 10.2 using the latest codebase up to 12/1 @ about 2am on my other e970. Both of them run fine. I update my main phone with the nightlies every few days (after I test that they work OK on my "backup" e970). RC1 is fine for a daily driver. My only complaint is the well known "NFC" bug, where you can't turn off NFC, but there's a fix for that somewhere on the forum which I flashed a while back, and it's been working ever since.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] samuazcona:
if lg dont want to update our optimus g there is not a problem, if nexus 4 have updates we have updates, i just finish to build a new rom with new kernel based on stock nexus 4 kitkat kernel a pure nexus kernel and a pure nexus rom, i will update it in a few hours, that is a example of the power of this device more than a lg is a nexus device
[AT&T LG Optimus G] aedren:
Why all the hate on LG?

Yes, I'm disappointed they won't be supporting the phone with more upgrades. But the fact is they've provided an amazing phone at a very competetive price. Google didn't choose them to build Nexus 4 or Nexus 5 randomly. The Googs chose them because the build quality is good, the aesthetics of the build are good, and the hardware is hard to beat.

And that's just the thing: LG isn't a software company. They're a hardware company and that's what they focus on. It's pretty easy to root and unlock these phones (No S-ON bull**** like other manufacturers.) and very hard to brick them.

I love that LG makes the Nexus 4, and I'm even happier that I don't have a Nexus 4. The OG is N4 plus: plus SD card slot, plus LTE, plus... I get the goodies from N4 without sacrificing.

I will definitely buy another LG phone in the future, but like now I will be managing my expectations on the software

PS: At least the support rep is being honest. Compare that to places like AT&T where they stone wall and give no information at all.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] Rishi.:
I agree with your opinions.

Despite of not being a top notch software company , it still has provided a very well optimized UI on it's LGOG. I never found it laggy , unlike my previous smartphones.

I am really happy that I bought LGOG instead of N4 , since it has several advantages over N4.

And I am not unhappy with LG not releasing updates so quickly , because as long as there are good devs. at XDA , we can always rest assured of having a good ecosystem of custom roms and kernels for LGOG , because it shares it's brethren with Holy Nexus.

I can recall my previous experience with Tegra 2 based Moto Atrix 4g. Moto denied updating the phone to 4.x , although it had promised it earlier. Being stuck with 4.0.x and not getting 4.1.x or higher is okay , but if you are stuck on 2.3.x , it's bad.way too bad :(

Anyhow , the damn good community of M.Atrix 4g(olympus) , alongwith its developers ,like , kristenap , emmerson-pinter , mmountouri , contributed a lot . Getting a working 3.x kernel was damn hard task , but still a workable kernel was developed and varities of 4.x rom popped up.

Long live teh dev. community.

Peace.:)