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[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
OK, Guys. You still don't get it.

Here is what I'm saying.

1. Our device is released in March, 2013

2. KitKat is released 31.Oct.2013

3. Google has 18 months "Up to date" policy and contracts with the OEMs.

SO! The only thing that we care is if Andorid L ships within those 18 months, and will it be based on 3.10 Kernel.

Quotes just for people who are still confused:

"18 months. That's how long future hardware will be in the support cycle (at least, anyway), so you'll "soon" be able to count on your next Android device receiving all applicable updates for 1.5 years after purchase."

"Devices may not receive the latest version of Android if they fall outside of the update window, traditionally around 18 months after a device release."

If you still don't understand then please go read the Android Open Source FAQ and please stop posting stuped comments just to troll eachother.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
why dont some 1 just port 4.4 kitkat rom from z1 or z2?

it is not a big deal
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
First because Z1 and Z2 have completely different CPU and GPU than Xperia SP. :silly:

Second, cause it's not that easy, else Sony will be porting every ROM to every device ever as long as it's called "Xperia". ;)

You need both devices to have similar Hardware (board) in order to port something "easy", like Motorola Atrix and Morotola Photon for example.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Well if the s5 rom was completely ported to the s3,there might be a way to do the same with the z and the sp
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Xperia Z 4.4.2 can be ported. Sony does that, there were confirmed cases of Z leftovers in SP firmware ;)
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
I'm next time please try to Read→Think→Understand→Write. Else we're just creating unneeded spam.

Ofcourse there is a way, but it won't be "easy", as MrSteve suggested.

Would be easier to compile new CM11 ROM from the scratch, than porting stock Z ROM. But we already have few.

Plus there will be bugs alot of bugs for sure.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Lollipops everywhere!

Yes, reply deleted :)
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
Sorry, it was ironshadow2 , not you. My bad.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Roses are red,violets are red,everything is red! xD

It's a coverup for a deleted reply,noone must know! >:D
[Xperia SP General] Furrydaus:
Please abide by forum rules and remember to show basic courtesy towards other members. You can be banned for saying things like that on the forums. If youve anymore concerns please take it to private message.

Regards,

Furrydaus
[Xperia SP General] Bares:
Really sorry to hear that.

What happened? is't completely dead (hardware failure) or just hard/soft break?.

Will try to help if that is non hardware related issue.

BTW, give a try for sony's service center, and goodluck :angel:

Yeah, and don't forget ASPIRIN too, as a bonus.

Regards
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
btw, service center s**k on my place...i think hardware problem..:(
[Xperia SP General] Remlas:
Mby,... Battery drained out? XD

I had similar issue, just charched phone a little, went to flashtool and flashed stock kernenl. Then phone started charging and my XSP back to me :angel:

I know, offtopic...
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
There is a ROM called real z2 experience. Did any one try it?
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Yes,but it has the audio bug,as it is based on the older CM11 build,and music stutter unless you remove SoundEnchantment.apk(may be that we simply need to take the new one from walkman 4.4 port)
[Xperia SP General] caesar13th:
new 4.4.4 certified for older xperia z series.

this is the last hope for Xperia SP.
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Yeah, we either get it alongside the Xperia Z or its over. Hopefully there is an announcement soon, maybe by end of this week. :|

Fingers crossed.
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
What has Z to do with sp? lol..
[Xperia SP General] greek_assassin:
Both released 2013??

IF I HELPED YOU PRESS THE THANKS BUTTON
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
I bought this phone because I say on xperia sp page that it will get 4.4, shame on Sony if this didn't give us that update.
[Xperia SP General] bruno_gui:
Well, there is hope.. Xperia Z was launched in January 2013 and ours on March :angel::angel:
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
the proof? that guy haves a Xperia Z.

Just wake up to reality people. Xperia SP will be NOT UPDATED this year.

stop spamming talking bul*sh**
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Leave me alone

Says this thread:P
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
This is a mid range phone. We are not priority for $ony.

Sad but True.

They don't care if sp is not on the news. It's a discontinued phone. For Z1 they did everthing and published all kind of news to show they are a great company, that care about updates and customers.
[Xperia SP General] tyw7:
Sony themselves say updates will be pushed out in December.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-sp/
[Xperia SP General] e1i@zzz:
Thanks, I assumed that.

Fed up waiting. sp won´t get the update that year. lost 4$ to my mate who made me betting against him :good:

have a blast tonight guys. with outdated phones anyway :cyclops:
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
Old news man :p
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
Fake promise. Not the first time.
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
just stay in this thread complaining will not help at all. What I recommend to you? do the root, back up the TA partition after that, unlock the bootloader and install custom ROM.

Who can not unlock the bootloader, install another rom that works in LB.

Sony. Lie.Believe.
[Xperia SP General] dipesh1502:
Fake.believe
[Xperia SP General] noob_user_:
Sony you might be making false promises. But this is my last Sony phone I promise....
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
My phone is not outdated. I just installed the CM10.1 and surely, is much better than using the Stock ROM. Everything works, it is fast and fluid, that's what matters.
[Xperia SP General] dghostpt:
I'm not complaining. I have existenz rom but would be better to have 4.3 existenz Rom :p devs stopped because they are waiting for this release. Sony anounced it for this year, so... Blame sony. They don't deliver on time, they are not good enough.
[Xperia SP General] asish2006:
I think we will get the updates with the next batch of phones.. I.e xperia v, t e.t.c

Fingers crossed for this at least :p
[Xperia SP General] Wytosandroid:
Sorry

Sorry to have posted false hopes, bros, I was so taken by the happiness that I didn't controll enough, sorry :(
[Xperia SP General] dimenfer:
Just giving up, maybe first week o January
[Xperia SP General] Deathless93:
I knew that..

Damn sony!!
[Xperia SP General] Salo-S:
I can bet that everything we see in 4.3 we've all seen in other Xperia's. Will not get any new in performance or in the interface. Only Android 4.3 and nothing else.

I can't understand why so much expectation for something we've already seen how it is and how it works on Xperia Z (and some honami-based ROM's aka existenZ).
[Xperia SP General] permanent27:
am germany Pc Companion Update Serwer not available
[Xperia SP General] comscier:
I guess most people here won't be so frustrated if the carrier's SP bootloader weren't locked down in the first place.

A lot of us are stuck in 4.1.2. This is worst than my Samsung Galaxy Note 1. That old junk is already running CM11 (4.4.2)

*Sony chose to give carriers the option to lock down bootloader.

The more I think about it, the more I dislike Sony.

This is my first and last Sony phone.

Have a nice day.
[Xperia SP General] Wytosandroid:
For example for the better optimization for the camera, wif, etc... but especially for 4.3 kernel source, and the developers will can start to make a decente kernel for CM based rom.
[Xperia SP General] ShinOrochiX:
Xperia Z & SP

Apparently the firmware the SP gets is ported from the Xperia Z by Sony, so 4.4.4 is still a possibility.

As far as I am aware this is the final month of support for the Xperia Z, whilst for us its end of October. So we still have a chance, *if they wanted to* Sony could release KitKat and give a further bug fix by the end of October.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Guys, should I trust Sony and go back to stock tft , relock my bootloader and wait for 4.4 update?
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
No you should flash cm11 for lbl and on top of that install pure performance X mod then install gapps and then factory reset then bounce y'all....
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
2 words for you

Fly-on Mod

And btw,which one of those are you using?Gold,Zeno?
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
The normal one v1.4
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Link pls,Gold edition is popping out on every search xD
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I didn't really like the fly on mod maybe because of work in progress and I have tried it but this one seems a lot better.

Here you go

all credits to jeeko
[Xperia SP General] D-SHEL:
No xD
[Xperia SP General] xAD3r1ty:
And ? Z is a flagship, sp is a mid range that no one cares about
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Sp is a Mini variant of the Z(basically),same for the S4 and S4 Mini.
[Xperia SP General] lee480:
Total nonsense. Xperia Z mini version in the Xperia ZR. Xperia ZR is not in the same league as in Xperia SP. High end spec and mid range spec. Stop getting your hopes too high, people.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
you probably meant to say "believe", not "trust" since sony no longer are promising anything for SP.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
That wud be stupid bro.

As u are already bootloader unlocked, just enjoy custom roms, and when 4.4 comes, just flash ftf then... dont wait forever, coz 4.4 might really take a long long time. Or maybe indeed never.
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Some guys here said that the 4.4.4. is confirmed for the xperia z. If this is true, then we might have a hope for our very own xperia sp.
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
Yes. 4.4.4 is confirmed for Xperia Z and its Certified already.. Will launch soon..

Hope SP will get a bug free 4.4+ .. Lets hope the best..

From My Xperia Z With XDA App
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
A website called

smartphonetechie.com

Was the first one to tell about the .4.4.4 for z and they also say that sp will get kk

And they even replied to me .. so wait till September_October
[Xperia SP General] laurent329:
yes, it' s maybe a good news for xperia sp owner"s

the news is here : http://smartphonetechie.com/sony-xperia-sp-4-4-update/
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
The news is also on xperiablog. There's also a leaked screenshot. Check it out: http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/2...eenshot-confirms-android-4-4-4-is-on-the-way/

If we don't get kitkat now, we'll never get it. I'm serious.
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
It is not hard to edit the Build.Prop and change some numbers ;)

Untill Sony comes with official news we should not assume anything ;)

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] Gamer R:
hahaha....

Dafuq.... ?

Source
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
GSMArena first changed it into 4.3,then back to 4.4 only on that page.I have a good feeling about this. :D
[Xperia SP General] User013:
Yeah there is probably a guy from Sony who is testing kitkat on his xperia sp and in the free time he is writing articles for GSM Arena, he is giving us a hint?

I hate when i see on xperia blog in comments when we mention xperia sp there is always some guy ''OMG!, stop whining, get a life, OMG''.

When most of us bought xperia sp there was a kitkat as future version so we are not whining we just want what we paid for. The guy who wrote article probably thinks the same or he just made typing mistake we will see.
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
/offtopic

Actually, is really annoying when someone (a user called XperiaSP btw) start spamming all their entries with that, looks like a child and give all XSP users bad reputation so... I'm in favor with those "OMG get a life" xD

just wait for official announcement, is so hard?

btw, in any place says u're buying software updates when bought a phone, and let me ask you, what is the reason for you to want 4.4?
[Xperia SP General] blackloaders:
kernel source, it will help development for lbl phone :D
[Xperia SP General] QBerto:
EXACTLY xD

if you're a developer can be necesary get 4.4, if not, why then?

4.4 is not so good in Sony phones (I mean not as could be) because sony is not using ART, the other good thing are visual changes, that can be made with mods and etc, what else? if 4.4 is released, I can be almost sure the sames bugs will persist (poor camera, poor wifi, auto birghtness useless) and maybe, just maybe we can get apps to SD...
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Android kk is easy way to get l.
[Xperia SP General] Furrydaus:
Sony has quite a number of xperia sp devs that moved in both this and last year. Some you might not have heard and some such as jerpelea have joined them. Chances of getting the 4.4 update is high. No need to be so anxious of things. It will come sooner or later and if it doesnt, you can always upgrade to android 4.4 with the wide variety of roms available (like mine ;P)
[Xperia SP General] User013:
I am used to poor wifi and not working auto brightness on stock firmware, i had same troubles with my old xperia arc s. It is just xperia thing they probably wont fix it even if we get kitkat.

I heard that xperia Z got app to sd card with kitkat update and that is absolutely necessary for us we have only 5.4 GB to install apps. Some camera software tweaks would be nice. Sometimew it feels like this phone has 512MB of ram not 1GB so fix for that would be also nice.

Other than that i am happy with current software on our phones, if they fix all this things in JB update that is ok we don't need kitkat but still kitkat use less ram and it is better overall as i heard so it would be better solution.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Exactly my old Samsung galaxy s2 multitasks better than this...... go compare your antutu benchmarks in memory management with this.
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
I agree with you. In my Xperia Z official KK 4.4.2 running fine but in multitasking its very very poor. Some times u will feel to throw ur mobile to dust bin. Already all bloatwares are removed ..

Some days ago i just tried one CM 11 4.4.4 Rom in ma Z. Seriously the multitasking is flying. Awsom speed. But honesty i don't like the interface of the CM. Any way waiting for a bug free 4.4.4 for my XZ..
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Google needs to maintain software for devices at a price which I'm willing to pay.

But that will never happen.

There are plenty of themes on play store for cm11 which are better than Sony's.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Cm11 themes feels like having cheap phone, nothing good looking as stock look.
[Xperia SP General] Rajeev:
Actually now u can get Z2 framework with Theme engine ported for CM 11 with plenty of Awsom themes. Even Sony themes also ported..
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
There is a diffrence between demanding an update and wanting an update. I WANT an update but I see a lot of users here DEMANDING the update.

The next update round is the Z family (XZ, XZR? XZ1 etc..) and perhaps the Xperia SP comes next.

But untill then can you guys all stop now? There has been no official news since the last .207 update and all the comments here are about either:

- Any webpage that has Android KitKat and Xperia SP in one sentence

- Any screenshot with a picture of the Xperia SP and the numbers 4.4.x next to it

- CyanogenMod 11...

Just stop guys..

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] krokanic:
Cheap looking but super fast...:P ;)
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
I dont notice lag on stock based roms neither.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
where is it ported, and can I use it on PA?
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Install a lot of apps then you ll notice.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Install Greenify ans Seeder and you wont
[Xperia SP General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Guys, one thing you will be missed on CM..

No sony camera and CM camera is Sucks for me..

Sent from my C6502 using Instagram
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
The camera snaps same quallity,but bravia engine enchances it.I am using RepeXpersiS,and realised that,as it has the cm camera,and bravia engine
[Xperia SP General] Silver Wx:
Use CM11s camera ;)
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Yes, Sony camera is grat - with slow UI, screwed up algorithms for taking photos and A TON of unnecessary add-ons that isn't used by anyone.

I'm totally missing it in CM. Totally.
[Xperia SP General] paulux2:
The photos with aosp roms are very worse than stock.. Specially in low light

Inviato da Sony Xperia SP
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Idk about that, for me the colors are much more vibrant, the photos are also a little bit sharper and overall look more pleasing to eye.

Btw, it's funny how the thread about KK transformed into "AOSP vs Sony ROM".
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Aosp KK vs SONY JB.
[Xperia SP General] umair42:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/31/sony-ends-support-for-the-xperia-e-and-e-dual/
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
The rumors are that the Xperia L gets an EOL next and after that we might hear something for our device...

(see also the comments of the above given link)

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
yeah, those fx with dinosaurs.. amazing feature.
[Xperia SP General] Gamer R:
My predictions for EOL

Xperia L - Android 4.2.2

Xperia SP - Android 4.3

Xperia Z series - Android 4.4.4

Xperia Z1 & Z1c - Android L

Now if not official Android 4.4, then maybe AoSp sources for Xperia Sp (like released for Xperia L) would be nice.
[Xperia SP General] le grande magnetto:
more than enough for me.
[Xperia SP General] Levered:
I hope xperia sp will get KK soon, btw i buy another device after my xperia sp has broken.

Thanks for all has support me for my works.

I will back to Sony soon :)
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
They should release z2 lite or something.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
I am currently trying to make my friend buy the m2.my eyes really became picky after i got the sp,so much that the m2s screen dpi looks horrible.however,the phone has the body,and the specs that arent that bad.He is into SONY too,he likes when its all premium,but doesnt want to pay too much.The m2 can be found almost at the same pric as the sp.but I do not regret buying the SP u,u
[Xperia SP General] TechnoSparks:
Actually if anyone noticed the SP is using a reinforced glass. Expect some long-term usage due to this feature (unless water came in or brick becomes one of the phone's friends) :D
[Xperia SP General] oscarstl:
Bad News?

Hi, on this MOVISTAR ES page, the operator Technician says he has asked to sony, but Sony says Xperia SP will no receivera android kitkat.

http://comunidad.movistar.es/t5/Sof...Actualización-4-4-para-xperia-Sp/td-p/2049877

Sorry for my english, this page is in spanish

Traduction:

BOY: I would like to know Hola if Movistar already knows something on the update of the SP to the version 4.4. Searching for the web, I found a link that he was saying that in July this wonderful smartphone was going to receive this update and in sight that the own company and the operadora of shift have to put hand to the above-mentioned update to implement his absurd applications that do not cost for anything, so the above mentioned thing I suppose that Movistar already will know anything, thank you for a response!!!

MOVISTAR:Hi bemoro, good days and bienvenid to the Community: I see in the web of the manufacturer that the version 4.4 for the Xperia SP still is not available not at least for the free terminals. I consult the forecast of update for Movistar's terminals and comment on you. Salu2,

MOVISTAR:Hi again bemoro:After consulting it, the manufacturer comments to us that finally this terminal, Xperia SP, will not have update to the version 4.4 (kit kat Regards,

Only I want to contribute something royal
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
You may never know.As we even asked the SONY support,one time they said that we will get 4.4,and other time they negated it.We must wait and see.If the update is comming,and I belive that it will,it will arrive before October.
[Xperia SP General] oscarstl:
I hope that the update was coming, only I want to contribute something royal and I was thinking that a company of communications had a better access to communications with sony that a normal citizen.

Thank you for your reply, regards
[Xperia SP General] |>/\nte:
Just don't ask mobile phone carriers. They'll probably tell you false information. Even sony support themselves won't tell us the exact answer. I think the best thing we can do is wait for something....
[Xperia SP General] theshrink89:
Didn't know where to post this question, so I will ask here... Is there a stock or stock based 4.3 on which Viber is working normally? Wanna go back to stock for a while but can't live without Viber... :o Thanks in advance! :D
[Xperia SP General] gbil:
So latest info I have from my contacts at Sony is that - as said before - no KitKat is planned for SP. Now this should be 99% accurate.

By the way, have you seen that since a few days ago Sony support pages do not give info anymore on previous or planned releases, just the current release. I wonder why.....
[Xperia SP General] johmkel:
I believe Sony will now only run series of phone every year

The Z's for high end

M's for mid range and

E's for entry level

T's for phablet

All updates so far are focused on these series only

I believe no more to expect for our SP

Definitely we'll end with the same fate with V and TX
[Xperia SP General] mrjraider:
Proof or it did not happen..

I can also say:

"According to my contacts at Sony we get KitKat on november 2014"

(NO THIS IS NOT NEWS)

Without proof it does not mean a bloody thing!!!

So F... off.... :silly:

~~Regards
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
I hope devs find a way to port the stock 4.4,just like with the 4.4.2 from the s5 to the s3.

But I still belive that the SP will get 4.4.

If not,we do have the RepeXpersiS ROM.
[Xperia SP General] gbil:
You are one heck of a fanboy mate. I will not bother with the "proof" thing but next time do your research and then hit your "I don't like it so I'll be rude" button.

See ya in another forum guys.
[Xperia SP General] ramcool789:
Couldn't Resist...
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Sad but it will turn to reality after October.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Well if you saw posts that said

"A contact of mine said that we will not get KK" and then "A contact of mine said that we will get KK" over and over again,you would surely act the simmilar way.if you want to be a news man,you have to attach an article proving that you arent just making it up.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Gbil is known for real news.

Also, [MENTION=2784807]DooMLoRD[/MENTION] said that Sony has no plans of KK for XSP, so we have 2 same signs of not getting KK.

Now the only thing that's left is to guess the excuse for not updating :p

My guess is they will say screen resolution/memory(RAM or internal).
[Xperia SP General] ireaper4592:
just download 4.4 roms and stop all the whining ahhhhhhhh
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Sony will say that our phone cant handle kk with Sony's bloatware.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Xperia sp better than all other xperia phones except z series
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
In my country a brand new Xperia SP costs more than a brand new Xperia Z.

Xperia SP-485 $

Xperia Z-415 $

Funny,don`t you think? xD
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Well, I live in Jordan, but my dad lives in UAE and I asked him to send me one from their and it cost me 285$.
[Xperia SP General] eSu.Matix:
WHAT?

I bought my Xperia SP for 149€ which is 193$, 1 month ago and now you can get is as low as 139€. And that's without being carrier locked or bootloader locked or contracts or anything.
[Xperia SP General] Jeik:
Dont belive me?

http://www.tele2.hr/privatni-korisnici/mobiteli/sony-xperia-z-black/d382/?typid=1#txt

http://www.tele2.hr/privatni-korisnici/mobiteli/sony-xperia-sp/d405/?typid=1#txt

This is the lowest(best) price of brand new phones in my country.

Convert HRK to USD and you get 485$

I payed 150$ for the sim locked,4g variant,with warranty,off contract.I consider myself lucky xD

It does have the bootloader locked,and cant be unlocked unless i sim-unlock it too.

But as long as i have CM11 for LBL,eXistenZ and RepeXpersiS,i am fine :D