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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rawhide85:
Get the latest drivers through Kies, use the same USB 2.0 port as when you install the drivers. Also, be sure not to use USB 3.0.

Sent from my SM-N900A using Knoxraid KK 5.1 by [MENTION=4701028]drakeymcmb[/MENTION]
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ResistanceIsFutile:
I have to start over just lost my last reply post cause the battery's low in this wireless keyboard. (dang it)

Okay thank you for some help here...

I reinstalled Kies3 Sunday and during the process took a update and now noticed a lit bit different UI and have Kies Lite also

and it installed Codecs for media play back.

Now I understand to use THIS same USB 2.0 port when running with Kingo. (right?)

To insure I will Google my PC brand and my updated motherboard to find out exact locations of 2.0 Versa 3.0 locations.

Your mention of "'Also, be sure not to use USB 3.0"' = (cable?) or (port?) I think port.

If it's the cable I can add a 2.0 USB male to female I have to the Phone's OEM cable to complete the link to PC.

[- information here please -] is the Note 3 OEM cable a USB 3.0 cable? AND doing as above (male to female 2.0) will this

make the connection 2.0 just from the stand point of Phone to PC curious for future OR being that they have backward compatibly

just forget about that method altogether ?

Then I really don't understand where the Phone screen needs to be when running Kingo. (download in Odin UI) or home screen of

Phone it self? Tried both ways in past attempts. The little logic I have is telling the Phone's home screen (like to be able to see and

access the phone listed in the PC menu of drives listed.)

Very sorry for all the question here and making you to type more than often required to answer a simple question.

I've seen lots of your other post and reply's and know yours words are gold.

Once again thank you for answering me.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mary_mac:
It worked!!!! Yeayy! Thanks! :D
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kendellrt:
For some reason I cannot get this to work for me. It just says that it failed every time. I tried it with 1.8 and it worked, so I decided to see if unroot worked. It did. Then I installed 1.2 and no I get the error. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with it now.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] gramig:
So I'm using 1.18 Kingo. I unrooted to install the Kit Kat OTA update. It failed the OTA. Tried to reroot 4.3 with Kingo and now if fails everytime with a NTSupport message. Any ideas or help? Never mind. Unchecking validate fixed the problem.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Like the post above, are people not able to receive the OTA 4.4.2 update successfully because they have once rooted using the Kingo Root method?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jpcdeux:
Taking a look in the 442 discussion thread this oddly is what everyone's talking about. Including THIS reply which seems to answer your question spot on...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Thanks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] shane1981:
Just tried the update here in memphis tn and fails at 27% tried everything metioned by others and nothing worked gonna unroot and give it a shot . Ill let yall know what happens.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Well, it seems it doesn't work if you have been rooted. I'm currently not rooted, however I did root once using the Kingo root method to extract an app file. I then quickly unrooted.

Unfortunately, I'm now one of the 27%tiers who can't seem to update.

I've been reading of stories in the last 7 hours of people who were rooted, and the phone updated just fine, however it's not for the majority of us.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] spinedoc:
Does this work with an unrooted note 3 on 4.4.2?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] shane1981:
Will not update. But after 3 differant trys at rooting and un rooting uninstalling an reinstalling i got fed up and uninstalled everything that had to do with root i turned the phone off and the custom screen was gone and it just said samsung galaxy note 3 i though ok whst did i do but all that being said i wasnt gonna wait for the update to download so i just rerooted and now im going to see if someone here figures it out.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] GoremanX:
I amunable to remove the "Custom" from device status in settings. I've tried everything imaginable, but no matter what I do, after I reboot into a factory reset phone, the device status invariably changes back to "Custom". I never flashed any ROMs or uninstalled any AT&T bloatware. I never even froze any of it. I only rooted to use Titanium Backup, GMD S-pen control and FS Trim.

I tried unrooting with Kingo Root and with SuperSU. I tried using Triangle Away immediately before unrooting. I tried restoring the region lock. Everything and anything. In the last 12 hours, I've rooted/unrooted at least a dozen times and tried all kinds of different combinations. Nothing works.

As a result, I am unable to install the 4.4.2 update. It just fails at 27% like everyone else.

Kingo Root is the devil and must be killed.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] YrrchSebor:
nevermind. i misread
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyLG123:
Must be a bad OTA update. I was rooted with kingo 1.18 and had safestrap installed. Backed up my stock rom then had a custom rom on slot 1 and a custom rom on stock slot. All I did was delete slot one and wiped stock slot then restored stock rom which was already NB4. Then uninstalled safestrap then only used Superus to undo root. Still had custom listed but the update to 4.4.2 took.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tsow:
When i tried to root my note 3 mj7 with kingo 1.1.8 i have this message..

Is it knox safe?can kingo flash by odin custom rom?

All the best..
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] txoid:
Updated but not rooted

I update to 442 while being rooted via Kingo. I had no problems updating . . . but now I can't root via Kingo. I've tried 118 and 121. No luck :(
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jasonstackhouse:
yeah no one has exploited root for the offical update yet, give it by sunday, the same thing happened when jellybean came out for the i717 it was rooted within days, the devs come out of the wood work for stuff like this
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] greg elmassian:
82482243

Same thing happened to me, unrooted via kingo, got the ota, downloaded it, rebooted and the install failed at 27%

did factory reset, same results.

loaded odin and knox is at 0x0

so went to AT&T.... I figured the bootloader was changed or something...

They tired the ota, same results, then they reflashed 4.3 via usb .... then went online and forced the pre-update over the air, then forced the kitkat over the air, and it worked... this ota update did not show progress except that there was a notification message that it was doing it... this update was larger than the "normal" ota file... finally got it.....

this was done at the AT&T repair center... funny the guy told me he knew when people had rooted their phone, but I think that was based on the knox counter and the baseband version... both of which were correct on my phone after the kingo unroot..

hopes this helps some of you... (anxiously waiting on kingo update, I feel like I am in jail with my unrooted phone)

Greg
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hiliner4life:
Kingo on 4.4.2

Has anyone tried this on the N900A with 4.4.2 update from ATT

If so With Any Luck ?

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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
You talking about the Kingo root method? If so, I believe it will not work. Actually, I'm to afraid/chicken to try it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jreed3786:
Nope. Doesn't work. I tried it three different times.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
Yes how dare Kingo do exactly as requested and allow you do what you need to with your phone.

It totally isn't at&t and Samsung's fault for acting like these are their phones and we're just renting them.

BTW I am seeing posts that people that never used Kingo or even rooted their phones having the same problem.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] GoremanX:
Bah, get off your high horse and keep your philosophical crap out of this thread. I'm entirely justified in *****ing about the root cause of my problem if I feel like it. Kingo did it in my case. Other people had different causes for their problem.

I got my issue fixed anyways. Went to a Samsung experience shop and had the rep there flash a clean NB4 on my phone. After that the kitkat update went without a hitch.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
I got mine to flash 4.4.2 by unrooting and OTA.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] GoremanX:
Hurray! You win the prize! I'm so happy for you.

I wish that had worked for me, but it didn't.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
Honestly me too new friend.

I figure this might be our last. OS on the note3 so you are free to do anything.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] txtech89:
So If our phones updated to 4.4.2 have we lost the ability to root for now?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] BR7fan:
Unfortunately, yes
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
I hate to be pessimistic, but my gut instincts is telling me until more and more phones get on KK, the geniuses at Kingo will not prioritize an update.

We might be stuck/prisoned without root for some time.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] smokestack76:
Looks to be a good thing. Too many people complaining and running to AT&T and BB to fix what they did. Apps like kingo make it too easy for people. Then you end up with way too

Many n00bs rooting just because they want to or heard its the cool thing to do. I know i hope the root method stays complicated. Keeps the number of pointless threads cut down ?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] The Basilisk:
Although I do agree with the number of threads being ridiculous, kingo has nothing to do with it. It was the mj5 revert that is causing most issues and it is no simple task to downgrade. People should do their research before rooting and definitely do their own searching for solutions before simply opening threads for problems that are solvable, there is no reason to bash someone for being a 'noob' We were all new to this at one time or another. Some very smart people were stuck when this update rolled out
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] smokestack76:
I didnt bash. And i had only rooted with kingo. Installing Xposed causes issues as well as rooting. The ones all stock the issues were from frozen system apps. Once you go threw and see the files that changed it becomes clear. In my case the system apps i deleted had to be replaced. As well as the xbin and csc files changed during rooting. Then i updated.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
I hope you're wrong, I need access to titanium backup for my IMs, phone numbers and other app data. My newly kk phone s pretty much worthless right now.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jpcdeux:
You have an Android with NOTHING backed up to Google?! :confused:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
Thought I had a full backup so didn't worry about it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] sonicthoughts:
The true culprit is AT&T - how dare they villainize people who want to take advantage of their own phone. Could you imagine if Comcast didn't let you use administrator on a Windows system??? All of these problems relate to AT&T playing cat and mouse with paying customers.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] The Basilisk:
Heres the thing, unless you bought your phone at full retail price, it is not completely yours. Most people get there device at a highly subsidized price and that's why they make you sign a 2 year commitment. If you get the phone through the early upgrade program that's even worse because you're walking out the door with only paying the taxes on the phone. Either way the phone is still theirs till the contract is up. now if you bought your phone at full retail or if you fulfilled your contact I agree we should have full rights to do whatever we wish to our devices. Like I said the majority of us get our devices subsidized and we can't expect at&t or whoever to not want to protect their two thirds investment. I'm just sayin. Now the immense pile of bloat they shove down or throat...that's a different story
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
I would agree if as you say, at&t unlocked at the end of contract but that would extend the life of the phone with unbloated roms and at&t wouldn't like that it or T-Mobile allowed it to be unlocked They sell a supposedly unlocked bootloader for 700 but still people can't root it kk.

And how is it not my phone even if it is at discount, if I leave early, I have to pay the difference, if I am financing a car, I can still change the radio, it is still my car.

No, this is them mandating their rules and penalizing everyone for a few's abuses. Root allows me to backup and restore and right now I can't restore my data and really use my phone.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] 440bro:
There's other non root software that will let you backup and restore. You just choose one that requires root. So backup/restore isn't a valid argument for root access.

I agree with you fully though that it should be "our" phone since we would have to pay early termination fees. The car financing analogy is a good one!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] SpikeyPsyche:
I paid full retail for my phone, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
It is a valid argument if you were using titanium backup and had the factory reset to get kk to install. But will go with Helium.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] The Basilisk:
If you pay full retail you should...Like I said. and there is no chance you're gonna brick your car if you change your radio. I just don't understand why people are so against capitalism. There is alternatives to getting a Samsung/at&t locked phone. It'd be interesting to know how many man hours are spent by at&t and Samsung employees helping out people that soft brick 'their' phone. Or in this case can't update because of what they did to 'their' phone. I don't like it either, but like I said, there is alternative. And whether we admit it or not, there is validity in there motives
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Droid2drummer:
I might as well b I ugh on contract. I can't find any reason other than savings to pay full cash like I did. I figured I could kick Knox counter up to 1,000000000. Just for record sake. I don't care. I own it. Not even on att. Anyone know of a way???? I might just start testing like old days. This is multi branded. I'll hunt every port till I find the right path.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] V DidDy 210:
only reason I rooted was to place fakegps in the system app folder. This phone is so good that I haven't felt the urge to unlock and write a rom for like before. But kitkat changed the system app folder from system/app to system/priv-app and now I can't move the apk ggrrrrrrrrr

I really wanna watch baseball
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] typedink:
I just rooted using this method, very nice. I didn't like messing with Odin much like I did with my S3, so this was a nice change of pace. After reading up on some things as I've not had this phone long so wasn't too familiar or caught up on Note 3 news, I see that we cannot install customer recoveries like I did with my S3, and previous android phones?

Also, now that I've rooted, there is no way then to flash or update to KitKat? I'm currently one 4.3.

Thanks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Right now, there is no current way to root the OTA release of KitKat. I would recommend to enjoy your rooted Note3, and wait until there is a method to root the OTA Kitkat, then update. The reason, many many individuals jumped on the bandwagon to update, and lost root. Now, we are STUCK and patiently waiting for a root method. Some are even trying (without success) to roll back the OTA update to what they had previously, however the OTA update KitKat somehow efusesed the already locked bootloader so there is NO WAY to roll back the OTA update.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ldontcook:
Is there a way to not update.. When KitKat update came out last week there was a option to cancel the update. Now everytime I'm on the WiFi the updater runs in the background and trying to update. I do not want to lose root nor do I want lose tethering.. Any help would be greatful. I have yet to run safestrap. Seems like the only way I can avoid the update is to run another ROM. I wouldn't mind but safe strap is limited to 4gigs per slot(correct me if I'm wrong cuz I'll run a new ROM right away)

Thanks

Chef
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jerrycoffman45:
you can freeze the att update apk with titanium backup or root app delete
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] typedink:
Ok, thanks! I just wanted to update to KK for the possible tap use of Google Wallet, currently everything else is ok with what I am running.

I was going to ask about this too, so once I install Titanium where do we find the att update apk to freeze it? Can I do this with the free version?

Thanks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jerrycoffman45:
no but you can delete it with the free version you can freeze it with the app, root app delete both apps bring up a list of system apps
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] typedink:
So I want to freeze or delete the one that says AT&T Software Update right?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Firstly, I'm with you and about a thousand others who thought the new OTA update to 4.4.2 would FINELY allow for Google wallet tap-to-pay feature to operate. Friend, I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but it still doesn't work. I know, I know, the system says it's 4.4.2, however STILL the desired tap-to-pay feature doesn't work.

Secondly, I do know Titanium Backup does freeze apps, however I always used the paid version. I don't remember if the free version does.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jerrycoffman45:
Yes and I also froze fw update too
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jpcdeux:
FOTA as well. It'll fail anyway since you're rooted even if it downloaded it
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ldontcook:
Thanks you jerry
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nerdrum:
I have USB debug enabled in dev settings, allow unknown sources and verify apps from usb disabled but i'm not getting a debug icon in my taskbar? Super confused by this. not getting a permissions request when its plugged in either. any suggestions?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kangi26:
I got my new N3 (running NB4)Wed, and have read like a crazy man for the past 2 weeks or so on rooting, SafeStrap etc and chose to Root trying Kingo. So for my experience, since I was on NB4, I got the DL for Kingo 1.1.18, Thanks raduque! During the install, I did see the request to install that Chinese software, and I declined it. Each and every time, I declined it, the Root failed. So after trying 8 times or so, I figured I would try it with accepting the add-on software, lo and behold Root was successful.

I also found that I was having issues installing a couple apps, so I went to the playstore and installed BusyBox, and updated SU, Now everything seems to be working perfectly
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Kamiex:
I got all excited when I saw a new version of Kingo. 1.2.2, but, it breaks my heart to report, still can't root OTA 4.4
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] valcomp:
Kingo Rooting and Phone Info apps

If you have successful rooting thru Kingo, then use Phone Info apps by vndnguyen. There is field "Know Warranty Void" and should indicate 0x0, meaning Knox counter is not set.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] smokestack76:
Busybox is a must! ?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kangi26:
Sure is!!

A bit off topic:

I'm coming to realize, that the stock ROM's(as bloated as they can be) tend to be the most solid. It's really now, for me, just being able to root, and toss a new theme here or there.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] smokestack76:
I went stock OTA. I use this as my phone lol. Still play with my other devices. Until i get bored with it and mod on ?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kangi26:
Ditto, that's why I haven't sold my SIII ;)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nccu_eagles:
I mainly root now simply to block ads....
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
I just checked the kingoapp.com site, and as of yesterday they put up a newer version of Kingo. Has anyone confirmed that it's updated to support our NC2 N900A devices?

Can we now achieve root through Kingo?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
Noticed that too and tried but the server kept timing out.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raduque:
"Failed!

NotSupport"
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
You broke my ♥!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raduque:
Like I keep havin' to tell the ladies - It just wasn't meant to be. :p
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Kamiex:
The new update came out on the 4th. I tried as soon as I could, but yeah, not supported, but then version 1.2.1 couldn't root NB4, so even though I'm disappointed, I'm not really surprised.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyLG123:
This was reported from a member on XDA ( FoneWatcher) ( I contacted the kingoapp website asking about an update that would root 4.4.2 devices and they answered this: The known root methods for 4.4 firmware,are all via flashing custom recovery, which requires a lot manual operations and involves huge risks.

So, basically, we are not supporting it. As to if we will, I have consulted our R&D team on this issue, they said and I quote, there is no timeline on this, we will but we don't know when...)

---------- Post added at 01:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:48 AM ----------

You need to use 1.18 version of Kingo.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
Tried 1.1.8,doesn't work on 4,2,2
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raduque:
He means for NB4.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Honeybadger:
I don't understand then. NB4 was just jb, right?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
Custom recoveries = tripping the KNOX flag. GEESUS! I guess we're SOL for now, and who knows when?!?!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] LanceM:
Some of us don't care about the Knox counter, give us root.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lawalty:
I literally have 2 phones in one. My job uses the KNOX environment on my phone. It's in my contract. I must be extremely careful not to trip the KNOX flag. If it happens, I'm back to using my PC, even for viewing simple emails.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] graydiggy:
I am at the point of not caring about the knox counter. I want a Custom Recovery and unlocked bootloaders. If that is the consequence, oh well.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jerrycoffman45:
same here
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] graydiggy:
Also... In the last couple day, we lost our only "developer" because he wanted to be a greedy douche. There are no updated ROMs, there is hardly any traffic now that he is gone, there is nothing left. I will hold out a bit longer, but soon I will be switching to either the T-Mobile version or the International LTE version.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] c-prodigo:
The problem is nor the t-mobile or international version have the same radio bands that at&t requiere....
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] graydiggy:
The International LTE version should. They may need to be unlocked/activated.

There was something similar with the S4.