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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nhshah7:
Is this normal battery usage?

Here's another post about battery life. I was hoping some of you guys could help me out. I just got a N5 last month after getting fed up with my HTC One X failing to live up to what I needed it to do haha (usually have 70 or so apps installed, including tasker and greenify to silence obnoxious apps). I was on Mahdi just before this, but wanted to try out slimkat and see if I could get any better battery life out of it and word on the street is that it's smooth as a baby's behind [true so far!].

So I'm not sure if what I'm getting is typical battery drain. Most people say they can get up to 4h screen on time, but I'm not sure I'd be able to make it past 3-3.5 hours, but I'm more concerned really about my standby battery drain. I attached some screenshots of my battery life to this post. At the time of writing this, I'm at 24% battery life, 10h 18m 14s battery, screen is at 41% and 2h26m of screen on time.

A little about my setup, I minimally installed only the absolutely essential apps I need on a clean flash last night. I installed slimkat 8 with the latest 282 slim full gapps. No custom kernel or other kernel modifications. I'm syncing one gmail account (basically everything but google+ is syncing within the account from chrome to people details, etc). I have one exchange email account syncing every 1 hour.

Installed apps: Nova launcher (ftw), google calendar/camera/hangouts, sleep as android, textra, wallet, whatsapp, chrome, drive, google+, instagram, landrule, snapchat, uptodate and epocrates (medical apps), google authenticator, es file explorer, goggles, titanium backup, iheartradio, NPR news, pandora, play music, youtube and waze.

I have google now enabled and location settings enabled on default settings. Screen brightness is on auto. I was also listening to music in the car for maybe a total of 30 minutes today as well in the morning and on my drive home. Oh, I was also on vibrate for most of the day.

Currently running services: settings, whatsapp, google play music, com.qualcomm.qcrilmsgtunnel, google play services x2-3 at any time, google+ and google keyboard. Ram usage usually between 750s-900 mb.

Service is pretty good at work (we have towers in the building I work in) and I'm usually using my phone for web browsing, emails, texts, whatsapp, occasional snapchats and maybe 20 mins of phone calls today.

Like I mentioned, my main concern is standby battery life. I would imagine it to be a little flatter, but it seems to be draining pretty consistently even with my screen off. I would REALLY appreciate any and all suggestions or help, or even just advice on if this is considered normal battery life consistent with what you have all been getting. (I also know battery life takes some time with new kernels and installs to settle out properly, so if I just need to suck it up and give it a few days, I'll post an update after the weekend lol)

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
The most effective way to have better battery is to reduce the max cpu. It is not a good approach but nexus 5 is not good at battery part. I will change my phone when Nexus 6 is out
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
No-one can say if normal or not. For a fair comparison someone would have to have your device, in your environment, and use it exactly the same way you do. Folks posting battery life is really pointless. All it does is clog threads. You can only compare one setup to another setup - on your device - with your usage - in your environment.

The question should be - is x better than y - and only you can answer that.

That said - slim ranks right up there in batter life, and performance. I can say that with my particulars compared to other roms - with my particulars.

Follow?

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Mmmmm ..... I wouldn't say it's not good on battery.

Again, with my particulars, I get about 1hr sot/10% battery drain.

I'd say that's damn good.

Oh, probably biggest battery drain is screen. Keeping it only as bright as needed is a huge help. Crippling the cpu won't help as much as keeping screen brightness to a minimum.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nhshah7:
Yeah, I follow. I've been around long enough to know that to be true, but being relatively new to this device I figured I would get some feedback and get an idea of if my worrying about my battery drain is futile or not. I understand your setup is different from mine, but I am wondering how my setup differs from yours (ie if you run more apps/services and still get better battery life). Not trying to clog the thread, just trying to get a better understanding.

Thanks for the input :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
My particulars

On Wi-Fi, cell signal averages about 2 bars, more 1 than 3

5 email accounts sync every 15 min, 1 weather app syncs every hour

Minimal calls and texts

No Google now. Google+, or any other social apps

Indoors most of the time, so screen can be considered dim - I call it retina friendly

About 70 apps installed, but that means nothing - number of apps isn't as important as what those apps do, especially in the background.

Gps is always on, but nothing use it

Mostly surfing and light gaming, as in low cpu/gpu games.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] coolek33:
Seems like I'm not using my phone properly :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
What language is that on your phone...gazunteit? ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] treehugger38294:
Is it just me or are ROMs with the CM11 theme engine slower than other ROMs? SlimKat seems so much zippier than ROMs like Mahdi and CM11.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] coolek33:
It's hard to learn language. Harder then Chinese ;) Polish hehe.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Once you try Slim it's away with the rest,

you cannot avoid staying with the best.

You can try other roms to see if they cope,

but you will soon come back to Slim dope.

Resistance is futile no matter what,

even the community is so very hot.

You have just erred and seen the right way,

by trying a rom with themes from yesterday.

You saw how it failed by slowing you down,

just stay with the best - wear the Slim-gown.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] armaki:
I agree!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] indian84:
That's a nice poetry mate...

Slim always rocks...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bunnycool:
this is actually true..m using paranoid(theme engine and hover) right now,,but frankly its nowhere near slim..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] docck:
It was not hard at all for native Ukrainian :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] briand.mooreg:
Brand new to SlimKat, love it with my Nexus 5!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Hi All,

I am going to update my system from 7.9 to 8. The instructions indicate I need to wipe system and reflash the zip file and gapps. Does this mean I need to go through welcome screen again? Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hooliganx:
if you wipe data, yes

n5sk8.0.robbie09.17artgapps292

codeblue.r376rd1.16v4atwrp2.7.1.0

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doubts about Slim? click here:

http://slimroms.net/index.php/faqandmanual
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kantjer:
Make a backup and try dirty flashing first. Works 99% of the time.

Sent from my OnePlus One
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Hi All,

I have upgraded from 7.9 to 8 by following instructions but the google store has no response. The rest apps are ok. Do you know why?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tetakpatak:
Wipe: system, cache, dalvik cache

Flash: rom, slim gapps

That should keep all your settings without welcome screen ;)

IDK what you now really did, so I can't answer your question.

tetakpatalked from P5110
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
I have done exactly. I will do it again.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Welcome to the Dark Side of the Force [emoji12]

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] hooliganx:
wipe cache and data from app in settings/applications/all

n5sk8.0.robbie09.17artgapps292

codeblue.r376rd1.16v4atwrp2.7.1.0

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doubts about Slim? click here:

http://slimroms.net/index.php/faqandmanual
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dankoman:
like mx player. doesn't help when you're TRYING to turn DOWN the volume on that porno and you end up turning it UP instead :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Tried but failed. Anyway, did ckean install. All good now
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dankoman:
this is precisely why the decision was made to not include it yet. we don't want something that's going to bog down performance of your device.

as always, functionality/performance is drastically more important than appearance.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] coolek33:
Because you're cheater ;) our languages are not hard for us. We live close each other.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
But I bet your porn is watching vids on how to decompile apk's and black out apps so it's not necessarily such a big deal [emoji14]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dankoman:
oh yeah, that's the good stuff :D

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i'll post this here again (though if you clean flashed, then your problem is already fixed :D):
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
This didn't work out for me. Whenever I removed my Google account I was getting systemui force close. Before that it was constantly asking for play services to be installed and promoting for a google account.

I somehow fixed my issue by wipe and flash followed by data restore oddly.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Anyone is using franco or elmentalx kernel with slim? Just tell me your petsonal experience or I should stick with the default kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Just do what you want. We won't tell you what you should do, beyond telling you to try for yourself.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Ok rootsu.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Just a basic ballpark opinion in no particular oder: the slim provided kernel has worked for me, so did faux, and so does bricked. I haven't tried Franco, code blue, or elemental x so I can't comment on those, but I've seen good reports about those 3 as well....so like RootSu said, yep, you just gotta try them and see what works best for your usage ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I think its important to say they'll all work.equally well for "your" usage with tweaking governor settings. I think its best to choose based on features then tweak to performance or battery as desired.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Learning by doing.

Flash, test, make your own choice. I can't understand this permanent asking. No one can say what is the Best, we all have a different view of one like that, of which kernel is better to ask the other. I've never come up with the idea. Only if you can test it for yourself to form an objective opinion.

So again, learning by doing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yaatzek:
Guys I'm trying to make a quick settings toggle for changing preferred network mode using CoS but it doesn't work. It's just doesn't change anything no matter what value I input. I remember that some time ago there were some problems with making it work, but I can't find this discussion.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
I think it's just more are there any really bad one's to avoid. [emoji16] At least that's why I personally think people ask anyways....and good afternoon Mr Tylog ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
[emoji111] [emoji4]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
My answer to someone recently was

They're all the best, read the threads. They are always the best ..... to someone.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] island3r:
Is there a specific reason why you want to use CoS for that? AFAIK there is network mode tile anyway.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dankoman:
move along, nothing to see here
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Missing a comma before "then" is actually a punctuation error. As I've mentioned before, I don't particularly have any hang ups on grammar or punctuation, especially as I dont pay much attention myself. Not sure why people think the opposite?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Negative Daniel son. Then should be than! I will keep you in check! ???

And dang this thread still moves 90 to nothing!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Nope. It is better to choose a kernel based on your features, THEN tweak said kernel to your battery or performance requirement :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Ah!!! You are right!!! I bow to thee & apologize. Lol. Made myself look like the idiot as usual lol.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Potatoes/tomatoes ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dankoman:
<-- quietly rescinds comment and walks away with tail between legs. i read it wrong :o
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] proyatzu:
This is pretty amazing to me! Glad to see good results periodcly finally!!

~ 5h SO 30% 3g data 70% WiFi, always sync always whatsapping/facebook

20min gaming and like 1h30m YouTube videos, some browsing too

Slim8.0 letmedanz build and elemental x 1.09

No uc no uv
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Clearly because I didn't form my sentence correctly :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abysstheking:
I am currently on liquidsmooth and wish to switch to slimkat..i want to know if the nightlies are good for daily usage or should i go for the latest stable build? I travel a lot so a buggy nightly is the last thing i want..thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Nightlies are generally pretty dang stable man. I wouldn't worry about it much. Flash the nightly.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yaatzek:
I want to make a tile which will have only 2 options 2g and auto lte.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DigitalUnderground:
Running official stable 8.0 on my Hammerhead and [MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION]'s 8.0 on my Deb... Both running great.

Thanks guys
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
New build coming for deb.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] island3r:
Hm you are correct, the chamber doesn't seem to have a toggle for 4g. Maybe someone else can shed some light on this?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bonedriven:
Update from last stable 7.0 to 8.0

Wipe dalvi cache and cache,

Install 8.0, and gapps mini

Now it keeps popping that "google play service is needed" but Play store can't open. All google apps don't work??
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] adl:
Go back to recovery, wipe system as well, reflash everything. This should help.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Read [MENTION=1277872]dankoman[/MENTION]'s post 3 pages back
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abysstheking:
i flashed this rom...had liquidsmooth previously and it scored around 42k in antutu, but slimkat scores only 32k..why is that?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Please, flash liquid again and enjoy your benchmarks. Sorry man but

Benchmarks say nothing, nothing, nothing and nothing.

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ciribaski:
There is a toggle in quick settings named LTE.

Hope this help
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Benchmarks are so unnecessary.Delete the app. Important is the rom speed and not any benchmark score
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bonedriven:
Tried this. But I only have google play store, and service framework, not play service.

Removed account and reboot and cleared cache.

When I add my google account back, it says can't connect to google and ask me to try later.

BTW, if it happens to 8.0 update why don't you add it to update change instruction?

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Tried this. But I only have google play store, and service framework, not play service.

Removed account and reboot and cleared cache.

When I add my google account back, it says can't connect to google and ask me to try later.

BTW, if it happens to 8.0 update why don't you add it to update change instruction?

---------- Post added at 09:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:52 PM ----------

Tried this. But I only have google play store, and service framework, not play service.

Removed account and reboot and cleared cache.

When I add my google account back, it says can't connect to google and ask me to try later.

BTW, if it happens to 8.0 update why don't you add it to update change instruction?

---------- Post added at 09:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------

Tried this. But I only have google play store, and service framework, not play service.

Removed account and reboot and cleared cache.

When I add my google account back, it says can't connect to google and ask me to try later.

BTW, if it happens to 8.0 update why don't you add it to update change instruction?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Try flashing uber kernel, that's what liquid use.

Also, and I don't think many understand benchmarks, but a benchmark won't tell anything about how "good" a rom is. It will tell what hardware can do, and that's mostly kernel related.

Fwiw - I pull about 42k in previous version of antutu, and I run slim, hoppers build that is.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bonedriven:
Good. I tried to do this again.

Clear dalvi cache and system and cache

Now when I reboot it says I have no OS installed. And said I need to install superSU?

Now I have only a google logo on my phone forever.

How do I reboot to recovery now?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
The ROM goes in /system so if you wipe it, the ROM is gone. Pretty obvious.

Recovery is volume down + power. Basic stuff
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bonedriven:
OK. Reflashed the ROM.

I still can't add a google account. Said it has problem connecting to google.

I am so regret I upgrade to 8.0

7.0 was flawless and I didn't know why I wanted to upgrade.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Try a wipe then a flash fresh then a custom restore of data only. Sounds odd, but only thing that worked for me.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Make sure system is mounted before formatting it, then try again.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bonedriven:
How does one custom backup/restore so I won't need to start install stuff all over again?

Hi, what do you mean mount system? Do I need to mount it manually? I just clear cache then flash +reboot.

The only problem now is "couldn't connect to google servers" when adding my account.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Yes, I had the issue then I have to do a clean installation.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Depends what recovery you're using. Look through the options. I believe only official CWM doesn't have the option. Hope you're not one of those 6 people who use that.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Who's Deborah? Never seen her in the thread before ?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
From what I understand, folks are saying basically, leave your data partition alone, but wipe the system partition, where the os resides, and wipe cache partition.

I'm saying to mount system partition, then format it.

If you're not touching your data partition, yes, you have to mount it manually.

Look around in your recovery for the option. And if using twrp, make sure you unmount system partition before flashing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] briand.mooreg:
OK, I installed SlimKat and maybe I shouldn't have. I have no reason now to flash all the time! Everything just works! Thanks for the great ROM!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
She's my little mistress.

Love the little girl.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Hey now, I still use it. It's never failed me in the years I've used it.

Cwm and slim - lean and mean - just the way I like it!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Let's see if he is 1 of the other 5 then :p

Recovery is one place where we shouldn't skimp on options, functions and settings. He certainly couldn't fix the issue how i did with cwm
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
I'm of the opposite opinion. Too many options, especially in the hands of the inexperienced, can be a problem.

In cwm, you can restore a single partition from a bu. I haven't done it myself, I'm a clean flasher, but the option is there.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
You can? Then I stand corrected.

But yes, I 100% disagree with you. More ways to recover = better than fewer ways to recover.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] choosetobelieve:
Hi, I often use the google account to testore my apps after I flash a new rom. If I need to restore from titanium back up. Do you skip the step of signing into gmail or you stop the installation in play store manually before restoring from titanium back up. Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I don't use play to backup or restore my apps. I boot into android, sign in with my Google account, download titanium and pro key then restore my user apps
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
That's the way i go too.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
And you may, absolutely nothing wrong with that!

But maybe you can help me better understand. I take it you use twrp? The only thing I noticed different in twrp was a file manager. Outside of that, it's same functions. Granted I only used it a few times - what was I missing?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I don't use TWRP so I can't really answer. I know it allows you to use your device encrypted. That can be useful. ADB sideload
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
That's in cwm too. What do you use - Philz? That only caused me problems, which is just what I don't want to see in a recovery.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Yep. Used philz for 2 years. Never had an issue. Official CWM I've had do all Sorts of sh*t to stuff
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] asim0:
So I wish I had read that before going from 7.0 to 8.0, because now of course I have play store issues; I now tried those steps, except I don't even see the play services app (the other 2 are there); is it included in the full gapps?

Still did those 3 steps with no luck

Any hope to solve this or should I do a clean flash? I have a twrp backup so might as well go back to 7 for now, not much time for a TiBa/cleanflash/redo settings right now... I have 300 apps or so
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
Clean flash is best.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
I used to get all sorts of errors trying to flash with Phil when no problem with cwm.

Another - funny how that goes sometimes!

And my apologies for all the ot - my curiosity gets the best of me every now and then
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] danarama:
I would recommend you try it on the nexus 5 but the project is pretty much dead now.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
That should have been done prior to the first post for help in your upgrade.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] asim0:
EDIT: I manually installed the Play services apk (v5.0.89), and it fixed it (it seems); Anyway I haven't clean flashed for ages so I will if I see any issue

Absolutely, thanks for the reminder