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[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
Poweramp is more cpu heavy because of the inbuilt equaliser settings it has. It does more sound processing than gpm resulting in more battery use. With a good pair of earphones you'll notice Poweramp is much better across the range than gpm.
[Nexus 5 General] muyoso:
I agree Poweramp does sound better, but the takeaway for me was how little battery life was used by GPM. Was stunned.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
Have you messed around with EQ settings on play music? If not try messing around with it and see what the difference is in terms of drain. I'd expect the drain to increase because of the additional sound processing.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
Yeah I know. I didn't actually say anything about average battery time haha. Had to re-read my post to make sure. Of course average battery will be different for everyone. Also, I had high accuracy on for half of the day. The drain wasn't huge, but neither was the functionality of always leaving it on. I will leave it off.
[Nexus 5 General] :
No no....I was talking generally. :)

I guess my point to you directly was you seem to be getting decent times with it on....and I'd just leave it if its how you like it. Just don't chase after better times.... Cause you're doing pretty good with that set up already!! ;)
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Help guys? Kangakat 3.3 and Franco r48
[Nexus 5 General] :
You need to post screens from a long charge, not 24 minutes worth of stats. ;)

Gsam resets on a reboot.

Try a good full discharge and try again. :)

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One complete wild guess....you have terrible WiFi and radio signal. Check Wakelocks. It could be one or both of them killing your battery.
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Okay will do. Quick question does Locale use a lot of battery while running in the background? Thanks :)
[Nexus 5 General] :
It can for sure. Depends what apps are accessing it. The more apps using, the more battery drain.

I keep it off. And toggle it only when I use it..then off. But that's just me....many want it on. :)
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Haha no, I meant locale as in the app (it's like tasker, but I like it better).
[Nexus 5 General] :
Ah. But it accesses location? Then definitely it'll take a bit of juice. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Nope. I set it to use time settings (ex. 7:30-2:20 turn WiFi off) instead of location.
[Nexus 5 General] :
K...what was the question? Lol
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Do apps like these (taskers etc.) drain more battery than they conserve if I'm only using it to turn WiFi on and off on time intervals (I usually forget if I do it manually lol).
[Nexus 5 General] :
If its only a few times, I doubt it.

Apps like juice defender that do it a lot.....yes. Unless your a very light user. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
I think I'll use it for a day or two and report back with my mileage :)
[Nexus 5 General] xela-yuki6:
Currently getting some pretty poor battery life on my new N5, stock unrooted. I've got BetterBatteryStats installed so what's the best way for me to post data to be analysed? Any help would be appreciated.
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
My phone shut down before I could get screenshots on Gsam. And when I rebooted only these we left, so they'll have to do. I'm on Kangakat 3.3, Franco r48, auto-brightness, and GB's smart radio with 2g on screenoff.
[Nexus 5 General] psp9000333:
elementalX, SOKP, airplane mode, elementalX governor, no overclock/ under clock, slight undervolt, no greenify.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Nothing unusual there. But yeah...the stock battery screen shows nothing very useful.

Android system is fine.

I see no issue here. But again those screens don't say much unfortunately.

If you have a lot of services running...I'd say that's normal battery times really. Depends what you do with your phone too.
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
A few weeks ago I was getting a good 4 1/2 hrs screentime. And now I barely get 3 1/2. Does the battery degrade that fast?

Tomorrow I'll post some proper battery stats :D
[Nexus 5 General] jd1639:
It's not the battery. It's how you're using it or something using it
[Nexus 5 General] TheCybertronian:
[MENTION=4858937]jd1639[/MENTION] you know it could be the battery, it's just unlikely lol.
[Nexus 5 General] jd1639:
Ok, it's highly unlikely that it's the battery, lol
[Nexus 5 General] :
Hard to say. It could be an app you installed. Or a bad update on an app. A chance in radio signal strength.

But....the battery didn't degrade. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
I didn't think so. I haven't installed any new apps except locale (which when the Gsam screen was there said it only had 0.1% on my app battery usage which was 68.7% of my total battery usage so I don't think that's the problem) a bad update is more likely idk. We'll see tomorrow when I report back with definitive data and screenshots :D

On a side note, what have you guys found to be the best keneral/battery combo for battery life? Would love to hear your input, and might even try it out myself :good:
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
In addition to what others mentioned, it really does depend on what you do. For example, last weekend I was streaming a few movies and at the end of the day my up time was 17 hours with 6 hours of screentime. However, when I don't stream videos my screen time is closer to 2.5-3 hours.
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Very true. I usually do the same tasks throughout my day, but I guess my schedule could have varied.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
A part of me wants to do a test to see how long the battery would last if all you did was constantly wake the phone, and put it to sleep over and over. It would just be interesting to see how quickly it would die compared to having the screen on the entire time.
[Nexus 5 General] :
It would also be interesting to see how long the power button lasts.
[Nexus 5 General] A-FrenZy:
One night, 1℅
[Nexus 5 General] digweed4me:
Liquid smooth + liquid stock kernel with all the Francos kernel features

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[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
I have used nexus 5 and i would say its big disappointment in battey department after using lg g2 and moto G..moto G gave me 7 hour screen on time on WiFi and here are my first result of nexus 5 in auto brightness and WiFi
[Nexus 5 General] cougzzz:
Which ROM and kernel? And r u greenifying apps?
[Nexus 5 General] A-FrenZy:
PA ROM

Franco r48 default setting

Greenify line and Facebook etc.

GPS off

Google now on

WiFi on

I just realized last night. Trickster mod will change kernel's setting. I used to install it and I got 4℅ battery drain/night but the last night I didn't install it and got 1℅ drained.
[Nexus 5 General] :
You're in a thread now with tonnes of tips to save battery. ;)

However.... I'm going to guess you have location on, sync on, android device manager options enabled, social apps, make phone calls....auto brightness....etc. In which case your battery time is about where it should be. No issues.

Comparing it to another phone with a bigger battery and/or older specs (like the screen) is really not fair. :)

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In fact, you compared it to 2 phones that have about the best battery lives of any androids. :)
[Nexus 5 General] Hwaiting:
Ever since Google turned on Google Play Music in Canada this week, my battery has been shot. Easily double the consumption but under the battery setting it doesn't reflect any apps in particular using the battery heavily. Something is using it though because I can feel my phone getting warm in my pocket. Anyone else in Canada experiencing something similar?
[Nexus 5 General] aeoveu:
My battery has been shot and I don't even have Google Play Music officially in my country...

I'm not sure whether it was the recent introduction of 3G in our country, or the Play Services update, or what... But NLP wakelocks are still there, ready to share a bed with me. And I don't like that.
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
No location and sync was off..you may be right but i was actually surprise how moto manage such a great battery life when running almost same software as nexus 5 and batteey capacity is not more..infact when you set brightness to 30 percent on moto G it seem more bright and vibrant than nexus 5 when its brightness level set at 60 or 70 ℅..strange..xperia phones z/z1 has as much terrible battery as nexus phones..it actually ruin such stock and clean software experience
[Nexus 5 General] A-FrenZy:
Two nights passed
[Nexus 5 General] Spiritreader:
So, after having GSam Battery Monitor installed, I noticed heavy battery drain.

Losing about 10-15% per night now.

I have not installed any other apps or changed my usage behavior.

After two days I restarted the phone, disabled location services and Google Now and let the phone be over night.

Another 9% of battery gone. As always I was in airplane/offline mode at night with Wi-Fi on, so change of carrier could not have been the issue.

It may be coincidence or incompatiblitiy with other apps, but after 4 days of noticeable battery life change I'm really sceptic towards this software.

I've unistalled it and will see if that fixed the problem.

Greetings

Spiritreader
[Nexus 5 General] ercxar:
It's my second battery cycle! But I thought to share it with you guys.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Gsam has been on every device I've owned. Its never drained battery.

I never could get better than 0.8 percent or even 1 percent per hour drain on the moto x. With or without gsam. My N5 has gsam and gets 0.3 percent drain per hour.

Look through gsam carefully....if you have an issue, even if it is gsam, it should show up.

Anyway, without screen shots...no one here can do anything but guess trying to help. ;)

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Seems at least 0.5 percent per hour is easily attainable on the N5.
[Nexus 5 General] murfi:
my experience: if i dont use the phone, the battery will last for like forever.

but as soon as i use it, even just moderately, the battery will drain like hell. it will make it through an 8 hour work day for me but needs to be charged after that. my nexus s had a better battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] JustCallMeSensei:
I noticed the battery drains differently every day,one day it can last for a whole day and sometimes it can only last for 7~ hours. I use my phone regulary every day.
[Nexus 5 General] jd1639:
It's most likely due the variability of your cell signal strength
[Nexus 5 General] :
Anyone can get times like this. Takes a bit of setup....sacrificing some conveniences and using toggles instead....

Tho gamers, big phone talkers and guys that insist on leaving all those conveniences on....cut these times in half and that's your normal times on average. ;)

Gotta set priorities. Battery life, or features. Can't always have both.
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
Damn you KJ and your unrealistic battery life! [/sarcasm] :)

I'm still not pulling those kind of times on mine (~4hr SOT @ 30% after a 15-16hr day off charger before bed), then again, I haven't left well enough alone. I'm always doing something. Flashing new nightlies mostly. lol
[Nexus 5 General] :
If you have 4 hours of sot and 30% left....then you could probably get to 6 hours by 1% left. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
Yeah, I'm more than happy with my battery life. Kind of OT, but do you Tasker? I've made all sorts of profiles to help my battery life (while maintaining as many features as I can from Android services), I love it.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Nah, I used to...I paid for it. But I just find doing 2 or 3 clicks and I can toggle anything. I run very lean. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
Yeah funny, I paid for it awhile ago, but I didn't understand it. Now I understand a little, just how ridiculously capable it is, and now I can't shut up about it. I've been ranting to my friends about how cool it is for the past month or so. Lol.
[Nexus 5 General] luke_:
I actually think the stock battery does a decent job, but then again i plug it in every night before bed.
[Nexus 5 General] omvir:
- PA 4.3 beta3.

- Purified kernel r123.

- (-)75 UV.

- No GPS.

- mostly WiFi

- Mix of auto/10% brightness.

- Maybe 1 hour of Poweramp via Bluetooth.

- 1 hour of videos on YouTube.

- Quite a few syncing/background apps, shown in pictures below.
[Nexus 5 General] limzm:
Wow @ my awakeness lol.

Well I know what's causing it but force stopping that app will prevent notifications which I need and would of course render the app rather useless.

Sometimes such situation makes me wonder does iOS even have wakelocks.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Whatever works for you is all that matters.

You may be the first person ever to say gsam hurt their battery life tho. Almost everyone on XDA uses it, or BBS or wakelock detector...or something and rarely, if ever do you hear complaints that these apps hurt battery.

If it is no good for you, then don't use it. ;)

But anyone seeking help on here will need gsam or its equivalent installed to track down their battery issues...otherwise everyone trying to help will just be throwing guesses at them. And I doubt their issue will get solved.

Not bragging, at all, but I get 0.3 percent drain overnight. Over 24 hours per charge easy, with 6 hours screen time.....with gsam, CPU spy and wakelock detector all running. :)
[Nexus 5 General] Spiritreader:
Well, I never said that the app should not be used. I just hinted that it's maybe causing extra drain for certain device configurations and removing it after other battery drain issues have been solved may help.

And as you've said, since its benefits (which weren't about optimization anymore, because I'm done with that, at least for now with my unrooted phone) caused issues with my phone's battery life just in my case I got rid of it

It may be the case for some people, even if they are the minority, where the circumstances are similar to mine.

I guess your device is optimized really well and functions great together with all the stuff you've installed.

So, it's alright to be proud, your battery life is amazing after all. :)

If I take another look at my screenshots, I'd say I'm getting around 0.2% to 0.4% of drain per idle hour, depending on what I've running, and I tried to keep background services at a minimum.

Greetings and thanks for your continous replies,

I think you're doing a great job helping people to sort out their battery life problems :)

Spiritreader
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
Anyone know if the new google play services update reduces the drain from location? Ever since updated the new google search app whenever I'm not home, it keeps the device awake for a long period of time. Yesterday for example, when I was at home my battery only went down about 2% in 4 hours (using the phone a little bit, which was really impressive). However, after after leaving my house google play services was keeping the phone awake. My battery was still pretty decent, but at the end of the day at 46%, 16% was taken by google play services and it was first on the stock battery list. Also, partial wake locks show 54% taken by google play services (screen shot was taken a bit earlier, before it got down to 46% so it was most likely higher by that time). I probably should have uploaded the log though, which I'll do today if I experience the same thing.

Just some info, location was set to battery saver the whole time and I did not use navigation at all. I opened up the maps app a few times just to look up a place but it was no where near for an hour and a half. Also, I noticed the wake locks even before I used the maps app. I'm still on google play services 4.3.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Seems pretty normal for a phone with location services on.

Device only is the most battery friendly setting tho....not battery saver. Go figure. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
I've always used battery saver, and this only started occuring ever since the new google search update. I think it has to do with the parking location feature. I was just wondering if people with a similar setup were experiencing the same drain on the newer version of google framework.
[Nexus 5 General] kingston73:
I had been using bbs to check on battery usage but it suddenly stopped working, it keeps telling me I don't have root. Any of you see this before?

Overall after one week with the nexus I'm a little disappointed, using the same apps and rom as I had on my s3 I'm not getting anywhere near the life I used to get. Any suggestions on the next best app the diagnose bad battery life?
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
What rom? Also Superuser or SuperSU?
[Nexus 5 General] jd1639:
Try uninstalling and then reinstalling bbs. Another good app is gsam.
[Nexus 5 General] Donnie Sins:
Another good cycle from my opinion. Google Now turned off, GPS on device only, wifi or 4G on (reception isn't always good, but it's still faster than 3G with full reception and battery life is the same), sync on for calendar, Gmail and contacts. All stock. Will try to root it soon and have a look if it makes any difference with apps like Greenify and LBE Security or something like that.

Sent from the Matrix
[Nexus 5 General] erisboxx:
What kernel do y'all think is the most battery friendly?
[Nexus 5 General] :
Okay guys. Just want to warn people of a dangerous app infecting phones with extensive wakelocks. SoundCloud. For some reason I decided to leave my phone on all day in my bag during school. My school time is 6 hours altogether, plus the time walking there. Anyway I ended up with 90% left at the end of the school day (from a full charge in the morning). I checked up on what was going on in between that time period and here's the results...

Soundcloud the number one battery hog on the list...

Notice the 'Awake' bar?

Awake for 4 and a half hours non-stop.

King of the Wakelocks

It wasn't using any data because 4G and WiFi were off all of the time.

I'm using CM11 & stock Kernel most recent snapshot if that matters...
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
It was probably searching for a connection the whole time. Force stop it next time you go in Airplane mode or you can try using the app Greenify.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I use greenify regularly. I have a shortcut to greenify all open apps at one on my home. When I do that, it greenifies it but the problem continues...
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
Its a glitch of some sort, I've seen it with other apps. Something about the way you close it creates a wakelock.
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
Been doing some testing on battery life and the effect of greenifying Google Apps/services. De-greenified Google play services and services framework, look at how my battery usage has changed. Android OS is much much lower on the list replaced by Android system as a top offender. 40 minutes SOT.

Also have a look at the number of wake-ups I'm getting now. Google Search was previously causing 100's of wakeups Google Play Services was greenified (Google Search is still greenified). Now Tasker tops the list, but thats to be expected with the number of profiles I'm running.

Sent from Carbon'd N5
[Nexus 5 General] :
I have not ever greenified any services. It could cause lag when they're needed. Break other services (like those Wakelocks for Google search trying to reach play services). And it would definitely eat battery if the services are always having to start up.

For me, I only enable or disable services in options. Or freeze them completely if I never use them. But I'd never greenify them. ;)

But your tests discovered this already. Good work! That's what android is all about. Playing, testing and fixing. ?

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Play services is fairly essential to many things.....for sure it should be left alone. Obviously Google framework too. :)
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
I just thought it was some interesting data, I'll let people extrapolate their own conclusions from it. I agree messing with Google services probably isn't a good idea.
[Nexus 5 General] darkghost568:
Finally, some proper battery stats :D

Franco kernel r48

Kangakat 3.3

Auto brightness

Smart Radio (via GB )

Greenify most apps
[Nexus 5 General] unsivil_audio:
That's decent to you? I can't imagine killing my phone in 10hrs with only 2hrs SOT.

Sent from Carbon'd N5
[Nexus 5 General] daddioj:
Impressive Considering How Long I Talked On it. And Used On Screen. Ran It To 0 Then popped It On Charger. Imagine if it has 3000MA :crying:
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
Sorry mate, what is the benefit of having a smartphone if I have to shut all push services down?

Shall we go back by 15 years when it was common to send SMS to say: hey my friend, you have an email, go and read it!

Inviato dal mio GT-I9300 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] Brounmoney:
Mine is not looking good. If anyone has any suggestions that would be awesome.
[Nexus 5 General] jonathan3579:
I'm about to wrap up my first 24 hours with the phone. I got the phone with just shy of 80% and I've been trying to see how much I can squeeze out of it. I'm sitting at 18% as I type this. It's neither a great nor a terrible start, I'd say.

Edit: Ugh, I don't know if it can be seen or not because the app isn't loading my pictures but my phone currently has

19 hrs 6 min on the clock with 2 hr 31 min screen time.
[Nexus 5 General] compchick813:
Unfortunately I'm not using Daydream.

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The device manager for remote wipe? Haven't set it up yet for my N5 unless it's enabled by default somewhere.
[Nexus 5 General] jonathan3579:
You do realize NFC takes up next to no battery, right? I hate to say it but your tips are almost as bad as recommending a task killer.
[Nexus 5 General] biggiestuff:
On auto-backup for G+ make sure you set it to wifi only AND only while charging. In the past I've had issues where G+ gets stuck trying to upload pictures and will keep trying causing your phone to stay awake. I couldn't find Google Currents so I guess it's gone now. I set my location to battery saving as well.
[Nexus 5 General] Waltsch:
Google Play services seems to drain my battery. I know I can turn off location services and google now etc buh want to keep using it. I've already rebooted my phone without success. What can be the cause and fix without disabling all the services? Android os also seems to keep my phone awake...

I can't post links in my post since i'm new... but now @55% 9h45m active of which 1h screen time 17%(low brightness) and Google play services @15%; os @ 10%; system 9%...
[Nexus 5 General] .jond:
What's the benefit of having a smartphone if it's not powered on because the battery is dead?

Thing is, when are you not on wifi? While driving? While it sits in the locker room at the gym?

Do you really need to 3G syncing your email while you're driving or working out?

I bet I can get over 24 hours doing this. When I'm off wifi, I click 1 button and everything syncs.

More than worth the tradeoff IMO.

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[Nexus 5 General] UCLAKoolman:
Using greenify and green battery, here's my usage so far today:

http://i.imgur.com/ZIlFMMn.png

http://i.imgur.com/Z9VW4om.png

The small gap in my usage was when I rebooted my phone while troubleshooting hangouts this morning, but you get the idea.

Auto-brightness, wifi and bluetooth on, GPS off, good LTE reception.

I'm on track for 5.5 hours screen time and 14.5 total time on battery. Good enough for me.
[Nexus 5 General] ericshmerick:
Disabling every smartphone function = just get a flip phone.

We shouldn't have to shut everything down to use this phone all day.
[Nexus 5 General] UCLAKoolman:
Who's shutting everything down? I'm using all of Google's services, use GPS when I need it, Wifi, LTE, Bluetooth, etc and still get 4+ hours of screen time and a whole work-day of usage.

Edit: I see the posts now recommending shutting off a bunch of useful services. Unnecessary IMO unless you're in an emergency situation and need to extend battery life as much as possible.