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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
I think most of us get the point. It was a total hypothetical on my end when I first posted it so I haven't bothered to respond. If google decides to close it they can and will. It won't happen though. Lot's of stuff they incorporate into their newer versions has been created by the community. I swear they rely on Devs from XDA and other places as an unpaid staff. Like interns who don't even realize they are interning. All they'll do with CM is laugh and watch them cut off their nose to spite their face.:cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Laggalot:
And this again just proves that cngnm is not a threat because the only market it could be interesting, google couldnt influence to begin with XD I disguised them since they started using CAF.... no more flash everything coupled with everything and stupid "can i flash this on this and that rom" on each page......
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Man, I really wish we had [MENTION=4790322]kufikugel[/MENTION], for these merges!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JaylanPHNX:
Yes, Kufi's and Jubakuba's absences have been keenly felt by all. You and Dan and others have done an admirable job, but it's like Privates and Corporals who have had to step in to fill the roles of Sergeants and Lieutenants who've been lost in battle. A heroic effort is being made, but the loss of talent and experience hurts the overall force. I do thank you guys for stepping up and doing your best, learning and growing to meet the challenge.

From my SlimTab Pro 8.4
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
According to Robbie's profile, now all we need to do is teach him to golf :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Andromendous:
So are we still able to build at home? I have been trying to download slim's source for the past few days, but i keep getting fetch errors. I thought git was back up and running?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
Git was never down. Just gerrit. What errors are you getting? I sync all the time without issues.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chikimonke:
Hey all, just a quick semi-related issue. The primary SlimLP maintainer for the 1+1, [MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] , has managed to drop his phone, breaking the screen and the digitizer. If you've been enjoying Slim on any of your devices and have always meant to donate one of these days, now would be a great time to throw a couple $ Robbie's way. Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
I already mentioned in the hangout we have. Wouldn't want Robbie to fall back to having to use his ancient N5. So pony up people. Seriously, even a buck will help him out. He has done a ton for Slim in the past few months. As the song goes, I got five on it.

[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] Ooopss, guess I listened to the song twice. Thanks for everything you've been doing man.:cool:

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] VictorLapin:
[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] 8KV502099J9627546 ?

Tapatalked from Slim Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] endomatic:
[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] 3AX30051H7611340Y

Hope this helps!

Best
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Andromendous:
Well i had to redownload the whole source, and it only gets a few hundred MB before it says something like "sync cancelled due to fetch errors" i think it might just be my Internet
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Thanks guys! Y'all are awesome, and it is appreciated! Trying to port QS to LP 5.1 and I will release a HH build. Hopefully tonight!!! I will try to send you three a test build!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
Try running this:

repo sync -f

-f is force. That will keep DLing the rest of the projects if one fails.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] NovaSlim:
Asking this question on the Slim Builder Collective thread and people who are trying to do the same thing as you will give you an answer.

[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] Let me join in the "donate for test build" fun : 254856596X693041K
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Thanks Nova!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
Hehehehehe. I might have my own done by then. Your Git is a fun place to snoop around.:cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] matesc:
[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION]: 98V37185KT3202056

:)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Jay bandwagooooooooon!

[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] some more for you - more than well deserved :) Please don't send me a testbuild, I'm too busy with work to test now. This is just me showing appreciation.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chitown021:
I'll throw a few bones your way once I get home, only if you promise to give me a concrete ETA for the next update....

Totally kidding! That's the least I could do for all of the enjoyment the XDA community has given me on my various phones over the past few years,
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] NeoXP:
There you go [MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION]

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No need to through me a testbuild, just keep up the good work and many thanks for your hard work.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chitown021:
Here you go. 0JE97420LM331481H
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] wangdaning:
I am not missing anything. Google spends money on developing android, but the key points of the upgrades are often generated by non google workers (or non developers compiling data of errors). If they were to close source that means close off everyone who contributes to their development for free, meaning they would have to pay for it. No free bug reports, no free fixes, no free anything, unless they want to take development of others and charge people for it (apple cough cough). The idea of open source means something when it comes to android, and google cannot change that. Google is a hallway, android is the house. To say android belongs to google is like saying linux belongs to someone. That is my point, not saying the situation is good or bad either way.

Also, I always thought of Robbie as a 5 star General :mad:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
I think they can restrict who has access to it though without making it closed. When Sammy pissed off goog with their whole Tizen deal, google threatened just that. I don't think Google's so much a hallway as a gatekeeper.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bisco:
[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] Thank you for your hard work! keep it up!

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] india86:
[MENTION=4911350]RobbieL811[/MENTION] Thanks for your contribution to Slim Team.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] akaHardison:
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Sorry,that is too few.I only have few dollars in my credit card.[emoji27]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] likonvampire:
sLIM changes

Xda has just posted an article about Slim changes :

Link to new gerrit : https://review.slimroms.eu/#/q/statuspen

Link to the post : http://www.xda-developers.com/slimro...n-the-horizon/
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] VictorLapin:
And if you open http://slimroms.eu you will see that unfinished material redesign ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] docck:
Slightly don't understand about new Gerrit. Just now we can see only few commits for m8. Is it mean that old Gerrit will be finished and old commits will move to this brand new? And what's wrong with old Gerrit?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JaylanPHNX:
Oh, that's VERY nice!

From my SlimTab Pro 8.4
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
http://www.xda-developers.com/slimroms-updates-on-the-horizon/
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Huh, small world :) Hey [MENTION=3877985]prbassplayer[/MENTION] I was just looking at ^^ and noticed where you live. Me and the wife will be in your neighborhood in another week. Any reccommendations for sights to see/things to do? :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] luisangel89:
Nice picture [MENTION=5047159]Tylog[/MENTION]! Nice to see you back too. ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
And I've got a fresh folder to repo init into just for you guys. Who is doing all the work on Github over the past 12 hours or so? Thanks will be coming their way.:cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] wangdaning:
I see the point, but google has to be careful. Like I said, they restrict android goes elsewhere. It does not belong to them. I am still thinking about if google is best to maintain it. I am not arguing , just questioning.

They would need to close off their version of android before they can close source.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
What? That's like saying iOS doesn't belong to Apple. Google owns the rights to AOSP. Period. Just because they license it as an open source project does not mean it's not theirs.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Natakranta:
Nice trick with the avatar. It took me a second to realise who is posing :)

The Answer to The Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything is: CLEAN FLASH.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Heya [MENTION=5047159]Tylog[/MENTION] hope all is going well :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] wangdaning:
Ironic to say google owns android open source project (to say it clearly, because they open source it therefore it is not theirs). If they owned it devs might as well quit working for google for free. Why work on slimlp if it is owned by google anyway? I don't feel that google owns android, they might own their development of android, but not android itself. They would have to pull the plug on AOSP and that would be the bullet in their head. I don't see google doing this, as they know.

I am sure we all have our own ideas about this, so again I am not trying to fight or flame, just sharing my thoughts.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
:) Google bought Android Inc. which created and owned Android...so google bought Android.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] theesotericone:
Someone knows his history.:laugh:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
Remember, we don't get paid for thinking ;)

Google releases android source code under open source licenses (and propietary software, developed by google)

Google has owned android since August 17th 2005

These are facts, not "thoughts"

I also take it your not a linux user, so you wouldn't know how this works.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
:) Sorry, wasn't trying to be short in my answer, but that's what happened in the past. I don't think they ever would close it off either. Android hovers right around being on 80% of all handsets worldwide. That is a HUGE pool of advertising opportunity for google, so as [MENTION=4850735]wangdaning[/MENTION] said, they'd be shooting themselves in the head. All that being said, I don't see CM ever being a true threat to Android, they're in the same boat as Microsoft without a 10th of the resources and look how far Microsoft got. Micro came into a crowded field and threw all the money and effort at it they had and I think they're around a 3% market share. They also still have pretty limited app dev interaction compare to Android and iOS. Now take a FAR smaller company with far less resources and talent. Realistically, where are they going to get. CM is unique from Micro in that it is more home grown and already has a fan base, but I don't think that's going to be enough...my thoughts :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
Google cannot close the source code to Android.

They could fork the code and never contribute another line. However, the code available today in AOSP will always be available.

Kernel code must always be released to the public.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] NoSpamDan:
Didn't see this answered in a quick scan...

Github had been under DDOS attack off and on for the last several days. Bandwidth compromised...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] wangdaning:
Android inc

I am a linux user and that is why I am pushing at this. Maybe I am wrong, and I am willing to let that go. If I started a company to state ownership of linux, boom, it would be done. I don't think cm can do better, but I also do not see google as all knowing. This is my crime.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
Linux is a kernel, not an operating system, android uses linux (kernel), I will refrain from this discussion, not worth my time.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobby janow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

First line:

Linux (pronounced Listeni/ˈlɪnəks/ LIN-uks[4][5] or, less frequently, /ˈlaɪnəks/ LYN-uks[5][6]) is a Unix-like and mostly POSIX-compliant[7] computer operating system assembled under the model of free and open-source software development and distribution.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jesamyn:
"Linux is a kernel" versus "Linux is an OS" is a debate that's been going on for...well, WAY longer than the 8 years that I've been using it. It is, in my opinion, a largely academic debate as far as usage goes.

I think a good way to look at the question of whether Google owns and could close source Android is to take a look at the history of OpenOffice. Sun made the code for StarOffice open source, creating OpenOffice. They continued sponsoring development. Eventually Sun was acquired by Oracle, and many contributors/developers left off working on OpenOffice. They forked the code into LibreOffice, which has virtually replaced OpenOffice among Linux distros and users. Meanwhile, Oracle stopped development on OpenOffice. Later the OpenOffice code was given to Apache. It's still open source, but Apache "owns" it. They could take it down tomorrow.

In the same way, Google does in fact "own" the Android source. They could halt development if they wanted, but we'd still be free to work from the code base.

I would pay to see Linus Torvalds' reaction to someone saying they owned Linux. ;) He still manages the kernel development, and he's quite...interesting.

~ sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Fingerliciously interesting one might say :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Fastrite:
This always makes me smile ;) [/URL]Linus Torvalds - Nvidia F_ck You!: https://youtu.be/IVpOyKCNZYw [/URL]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Not that I'm not guilty myself for participating, but this thread takes OT to a whole other level.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Android_Mailson:
SlimLP supports the RRO?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] infatality:
Long long ago.. [emoji10]

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
You can believe that page if you like, I will take Linus's word on it over that page, and you can find the quotes on the web, I am at work, so if you don't find a link, I will post a few when I get home.

Linux is the kernel, That's what Linus wrote and that's what the kernel developers continue to call it and work on today. It controls the hardware.

An operating system is something that includes a kernel plus quite a few lower-level "applications" to allow you as a user to do useful stuff with your computer such as a file manager, a control panel , look at porn, etc.

Back in 1996 (yes, been using linux that long and unix before that) we had some (this is still happening today) argue that the name is GNU/Linux GNU is all the software/apps working along side the kernel, and Linux the kernel itself.

GNU's basic components include the GCC , glibc, coreutils, bash shell and gnome desktop environment.

I guess anyone under 50 nowadays will call it anything they want :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vivekbalan:
Guys, please stop the OT.

Last few pages are only filled with off topic discussion which many slim users never cares. Please start a separate thread if you want and discuss there.

It becomes very irritating to navigate through many pages of off topics to find any slim related news.

Thanks for understanding.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] effraie:
Just another word on the owning debate :

Google actually own Android, the trademark, and the copyright on most of the code. This is a fact.

But by using the word own, most people will think 'do what ever you want with', which is wrong with open source licences.

Licenses are legal contracts, and they give legal rights to users.

Everything in AOSP is free software, and will remain free software, whatever Google want : the licences guarantee that. AOSP can't be closed sourced, by design.

As most of AOSP come with Apache licence, Google may stop licencing NEW code as open source. But everything that is open source now will be in the future.

Some parts of AOSP is GPL licensed : Google can't close it, or modify it in a closed way in the future, as the licence does not allow it.

Some other licence are also involved, and details of what Google can do with the code vary, but you may just know that everything that is free software now will remain, ever, and significant part of code can't be developed further in a closed way.

So, I'm confident to say that Google doesn't own Android, the way most people understand the word own.

Besides that, i strongly believe that Google control Android, and won't change their way of licencing it : they already develop key pieces of it closed source, like gapps, google services... And those pieces of software are actually what make the difference between AOSP and an usable operating system for average people. (some of) you and me can use AOSP whitout gapps (and other) Google closed additions, but average people will not, cause quite everything a smartphone is useful for rely on gapps (or other similar piece of software, but gapps are BY FAR the only widespread and easy to use solution available).

If any other player try to build an alternative solution, as CM seems to be, Google major footprint on the Web is IMHO a (very) better way to assure they keep the lead than (trying to) close source AOSP. Not even mentioning trademark law on the name Android and many other way to hardening the job to competitors.

Sorry for that long speech, I hope my (not native) English is good enough to be understood
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
:) This thread has always been an ot and on topic mix for as long as it has existed. Kufi, juba, tylog and all the rest of the guys have always liked it that way. I know for sure kufi said more than once it made it feel more like a home and gave a good vibe to the thread that he liked. I'm sure the rest of the team feel the same or the thread would have been cleaned by now. That being said, if there's an issue you or anybody else has, by all means ignore the ot posts and go ahead and post any questions or problems you may be having. For now, it's just small talk until Tylog or one of the others comes back in and makes an announcement of some sort ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Andromendous:
The Code: Story of Linux documentary (MULTiSUB): https://youtu.be/XMm0HsmOTFI
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jesamyn:
At least we didn't ask for an ETA. ;)

~ sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] docck:
You can ask or you can don't ask but it will not be faster then it will :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jesamyn:
Oh, I know. It'll be ready when it's ready, and I'm a-ok with that. :) The team does awesome work, and I'm more than happy to wait while they do it.

~ sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
I would rather have OT than the same question every other post by people who are to lazy to read, search, and be spoon-fed when the question they asked is answered at least a billion times, now that is irritating.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Lol, that IS kind of irritating, fortunately that hasn't happened in awile. Hope all are having a good day. It's a good day to be inside here. For you non-imperial standard guys :) it's -6 C with 56 kph winds here. :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Sure, the combination of OT and Slim Topic always work's fine here and there was never a problem with it sol long it's not to much OT and friendly. Life is to short to get excited about everything and doing everything always strictly by the book.

I know very well what I'm talking.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Tylog! Hope all is going well with business and family...and slim :) And that's always kind of the view I take too. Why get excited about little stuff, except I think I've got too many years left to let small things that won't matter or even be remembered in 6 months get to me ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Hey [MENTION=5047159]Tylog[/MENTION], not accepting PM's again or is my browser being goofy? Just kind of had an unrelated question :o
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
Yeah, not so much on this thread, other threads are terrible, it just stopped snowing here and the sun is out, it's actually a heat wave here 30 F
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Mikulec:
For you imperials its written like this: -6°C and 56km/h :D:angel:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Lol :) Yeah I was too lazy to be bothered with trying to find the degree sign on my computer :p ...and don't worry, this particualar imperial will be like this starting Monday :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Mikulec:
Do you even work? I do have a feeling that you are on holiday all the time. I am so jealous.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Lol, yes I work :) When I can kill people with my thoughts I tend to get the time off I want. Just believe in the Force ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
He works hard for the government to send that $1800/month check
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ( V ):
Finally, page 3333 :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Gregorypac:
Gerrit

Hi to all

https://review.slimroms.eu/#/q/status:open

New link , I'm not asking ETA, will be that today will build more new Official?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DroidIt!:
Ha :) I was in the Army for 11 years and went to war. You'd think I'd get something. Well I got a VA home loan, but other than that I got a coffee mug [emoji19] [emoji16]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Fastrite:
How many wars before you get a teapot? [emoji5]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] efan3719:
Generally there will be a post about an incoming build or you could check the Merged tab on the Gerrit and look for something that says something like "bump for weekly" that usually means anything merged up to that point will be in the next build and likely be available soon. But since there's been non of that I'd think it'd be safe to assume that there's no build this week. They've been working like crazy though.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pavik62:
Why do you like war? Except in America is not God? Killing people is bad!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] piperx:
Where does he say he likes war ?

Sent from my Nexus 5 xda-dev app