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[Nexus 5 General] Globespy:
I've posted this same thing in a couple of other threads......but worth putting here before people start f@cking up their phones pulling them apart etc.

Try holding down the power button and the volume buttons and shake your phone....same rattle right?

It's the camera lens and is the same on both of my N4's that are sitting here.

It's not the buttons, at least I doubt for the majority of users. The OP might be the minority.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Mine was clearly coming from the power button, and others have said the same. If I held down the power button and shook the phone, no rattle. I got one phone and it did this so I took it back, and the replacement did it too, then they got the demo phone out the cabinet and that did it too. I assume this is not just me that has this problem. But yes, before anyone even attempts doing what I have then hold down the buttons first and see if you still get the rattle, if you do then what I have done and will make a video of tomorrow will not help you.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
And it wasn't just a case of shaking the phone. If I tapped the screen anywhere in the top half, even lightly, you could hear the rattle. Others have said this too. This is a wholly different noise to camera lens rattle, which I can now hear if I put the phone to my ear and shake it, but that is insignificant. Anyone who has this problem will understand.
[Nexus 5 General] teh_g:
I just live with the rattle. I only hear it if I shake the phone next to my ear...
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
This rattle could be heard at arms length whilst tapping the screen.
[Nexus 5 General] prawnguevara:
OP got some big balls!!
[Nexus 5 General] Globespy:
No worries. Thanks for the follow up - despite not likely needing to do what you have done, still the geek in me is interested in seeing you dismantle the phone! ;)
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Shall I upload the video as a separate thread, or edit the first post in this one to add the video?
[Nexus 5 General] mattforchi:
I think you could just add it to the first post! Btw, thanks a lot for making the video, you're awesome!
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
No problem. It's 11:30pm here and I'm about to go to bed. I'll sort it out in the morning so the video should be up within 12 hours.
[Nexus 5 General] Kristi-Tech:
Same here :confused: :(
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
Yeah I know what you're taking about. I used my friends 5s and it makes an annoying sound every time you tap something on the top half of the screen.

I'm awaiting your video. I'm getting mine tomorrow and I'm 99% sure it'll have this problem.
[Nexus 5 General] lynksss:
Is possible to open de phone without special tool?

The spigen case maintains the button in position? you tested in your phone?

like nexus-5-case-neo-hybrid ??
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
You can use your finger nail to open it. And as I said earlier in this thread, I have a case but it did nothing but muffle the sound, plus I like the feel of the phone and don't want to have to keep it wrapped up simply to hide a noise that shouldn't be there.

Anyhow, I've just finished making the video of what I did, it's currently uploading to YouTube, says it's going to take a couple hours. The joys of amazing internet speed in the UK.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Can you see the vibration motor when you pop the back off? Or is it buried lower?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
It's attached to the back plate for some odd reason, you can see it in the video.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Thanks. Wondering how easy its going to be to replace it.
[Nexus 5 General] lynksss:
i wait for your video, I'm afraid to grate the cover when removed with my nails

Thanks a lot :)
[Nexus 5 General] noobdeagle:
Ifixit has a full teardown of the nexus 5 up. looks very friendly to replace things.
[Nexus 5 General] Nburnes:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Video is in the first post one page 1, YouTube says it's processing
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
It's online now. As it says in the description, you may want to turn the volume down after hearing the initial rattle and turn it back up at the end to see that it's gone as the phone I recorded it on was up near my face and you can just hear my breathing throughout the video.
[Nexus 5 General] envizion58:
hmmm i hear a light rattle when i shake mines too but i think its coming from the camera. i shook the phone while holding the power button and i still hear a light rattle. its pretty soft though, definitely can't hear it unless in completely silent room.
[Nexus 5 General] knox07:
not trying to be a show off here, but much to my joy my white 16gb arrived yesterday with ZERO rattling with the power button. first thing i did after unboxing was give it a firm little shake lol. maybe i got lucky?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Now I've fixed the power button I can hear a very quiet rattle if I shake it and hold the phone close to my ear, but that is ok and doesn't bother me. This power button issue really pis*ed me off, it made it sound like a child's toy.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
same here no rattling issue..what a relief
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Somone had mentioned on one of the threads here that the white one seems to have more firm buttons than the black. Don't know if that was just an isolated thing. I'm happy for you though :) Hopefully not many people have the problem I did, but at least it's not difficult to sort out if they do. As I said before, I took my first one back to the shop because of the rattle, then the new one did it, so the Carphone Warehouse staff took their demo phone out and that did it too. Maybe there was just a batch of them that have the issue? The gap between the switch and the power button that was causing the rattle was very small, so small in fact that you can't just slide the paper in there but have to remove the logic board. Somewhere down the line someone got some measurements wrong by about half a mm it would seem.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Thanks, I'll replace it down the road then when the vibration motors hit ebay. With my screen being issue free and minimal light bleed I do not want to take the chance of returning simply due to poor vibration.

Has anyone attempted to take the back off and reglue the vibration motor? According to ifixit it isn't glued down the strongest.
[Nexus 5 General] Phantom_11:
also got my 16gb white today. The first thing I did was to check couple issues reported before. For me, no dead pixels, though there are two tiny dirt under the glass, but I probably will live with it since not a big issue. My power button rattles a little, but does seem better compared to the one in the video. Gotta say, very helpful video, dude.
[Nexus 5 General] NovaSlim:
Mine only rattles if I shake it violently around my ear, too small of a issue to send it back for warranty for me.
[Nexus 5 General] daddioj:
http://www.spigen.com/brands/google/nexus-5/nexus-5-case-slim-armor.html
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Thanks :D

I did the whole process once already to sort it out and after mentioning it to people it seemed they had the problem too and wanted to see how to fix it, so I did the thing over again and filmed it. Glad your rattle is bearable, and I hope not many people have to do what I did. My screen is perfect though, my speaker is fine, I had no issues with the phone other than that. If I kept getting replacements I may have ended up getting something worse. For all the threads on defects though, I think this phone is great and I'm not at all regretting selling my S4 to buy it.
[Nexus 5 General] chronichemp:
my power button doesnt make any noise!
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
You got a white or black one, and where did you get it?
[Nexus 5 General] lynksss:
Fixed!!!! thanks :)
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
You had the same problem? If so, glad I could help :angel:
[Nexus 5 General] thegtfusion:
damn, i need to take the whole phone apart :eek:, probably worth it. will checck it out later :D

thanks for the video mate :D
[Nexus 5 General] Stevemeister:
Well I have the rattling sound too but its not that bad. Maybe I will use your method later when it gets annoying.

Btw, the vibrator part makes a very weird sound. Never heard that strange sound on a other phone. Anybody else got that issue or am I the only one. You van hear it very clearly on the top of the back.
[Nexus 5 General] sjroberts98:
I don't have the rattle problem, but a self-induced problem that will probably necessitate taking the phone apart (I got a nano to micro SIM adapter stuck in the phone; was trying it out before putting my nano SIM in from my Moto X and the tray is stuck inside the phone).

Question about re-assembly: it looks like you just pressed the contacts back into place, is that because they were still sticky with a bit of glue, or are they actually tiny connectors that can be taken off and re-attached?

I'm pretty nervous about cracking open my new N5 (actually more worried about getting it back together correctly), but since I made the problem myself I can't really send it back to Google for a replacement.

Thanks for the video. The ifixit teardown pics are good, but your video shows the re-assembly as well.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
They are sockets buddy, you can take them off and put them back on to your hearts content.
[Nexus 5 General] sjroberts98:
Awesome, thank you, really appreciate it. Now I just have to wait for my ifixit toolkit to arrive from Amazon tomorrow...maybe two Amazon's can make a right.

Then of course I'll go get a real micro SIM from #$%* AT&T.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
A few people have said that. I guess it could be something to do with the motor being attached to the flimsy back rather than the solid frame. I may try removing mine from the back and gluing it into it's spot on the actual phone, see if that makes it feel more firm when vibrating (I don't suggest others do that as it'll probably invalidate the warranty)
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Yes, I can confirm that removing it from the back and fixing it to the phone itself makes the vibrating feel much more firm and direct. In the photos the first one is the back of the phone and where the motor used to sit (on double sided tape) and the next photo is where I have glued it in place to the phone itself.

I really don't recommend anyone do this though as that'll probably be your warranty out the window, whereas sorting the power button out like I did can be undone for claim purposes.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Good idea :good: :highfive:

I'll explore this later. Might try to stick it to the phone without glue initially to test before biting the bullet and doing it permanently. I'm still considering waiting to buy a new motor down the line.

edit: I take it there are no cables attached to the motor? I can't watch videos in work.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
You can peel off (I used tweezers) the double sided tape from the back of the phone. I threw it away, but I guess you could use it to stick the motor to the phone itself instead of super glue and then see if it makes the weird noise go away?
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
What kind of glue did you use btw?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
This one
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Thanks, you should make your own topic for the vibrating motor "fix" as well. Seen a lot of people on XDA complaining about vibration issues.
[Nexus 5 General] Stevemeister:
Great! Thanks for the tip. Im going to do that for sure. And I don't worry about warranty because I've got a special phone ensurance which always gives me free repairs and a new phone by damage so no worries ;).
[Nexus 5 General] trsix:
umm

I think I'll avoid sitting around tapping on my phone.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Good for you.

This rattle though could be heard just through normal use, i.e with the phone in one hand and pressing things on the screen with the other.
[Nexus 5 General] AlienSr1:
Does your fix get rid of the rc-car like sound the vibration motor does when typing?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7q6j7iviigfmxt0/VIBRATION Nexus5.m4a
[Nexus 5 General] onthecouchagain:
That rattle would drive me nuts. And it seems to betray what would otherwise be excellent build quality.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
That sounds like a dying motor buddy. The noise mine made was more muffled and it felt kind of spongy if you know what I mean, like it was connected to something soft rather than the direct feel you should get if for instance you're typing with key tap vibrations on. If you don't want to RMA it I would suggest waiting a couple weeks until motors appear on eBay and swapping it yourself, it would only take a couple of minutes.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
It is a great device, it was a shame that I had to do this but at the end of the day, it did only cost £300 and so I won't complain. Now it's sorted I couldn't be happier :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] Lownita:
Just made a quick video to demonstrate the rattle: http://youtu.be/7R4xncTGLaU
[Nexus 5 General] AlienSr1:
Thanks for the answer!

Seems like a lot of people do have the same problem as I do (this is not my sound file, but mine sounds exactly the same)

I'll probably go and get a new one tomorrow, swiss retailers do have a lot of devices in stock :).
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
[MENTION=5525439]deansaunders[/MENTION] what did you use to get the vibrating motor out of it's housing?
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
Removing the back of this phone is just no harder than a Samsung phone. No screws even required to replace the battery. That might come in handy later on for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Richieboy67:
Super glue---

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Just carefully dug it out with a tiny flat head screwdriver mate. It's a sealed metal lump so can take being levered out.
[Nexus 5 General] flex420:
took the phone out of the box, everything was perfectly fine, after 3 or 4 hours of NORMAL usage .... it started, seems something is broken inside i guess? cant explain myself why it was perfectly fine in the first place....
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
What's the problem?
[Nexus 5 General] Lownita:
I guess he means the rattle. I would say EVERY phone does it after a while. The button has to settle down or so.
[Nexus 5 General] Nbsss:
great job, mine rattles but not nearly as much as yours, im slapping on a case though so it doesn;t bother me - glad to know there's an easy fix!

I wonder if we can replace the vibration motor with something more powerful?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
The motor and connection both look very similar to that on and iphone 4S. I expect I've got one around somewhere so I'll have a look later and see if I'm right.
[Nexus 5 General] Nbsss:
Please do!!! :D
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Well, just tried it. The 4S motor does fit in the hole well (you have to stretch the contact springs out a bit), however the motor feels extremely feeble, like there's not enough current going to it. I have Swiftkey and went into the settings for haptic feedback, turn it up between 0 and half way and it makes a kind of useless wiggle, turn it up past that and it doesn't vibrate at all :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] Nbsss:
Awww...thanks for trying though! I've given you 8 thanks for your efforts ;)

franco kernel has a setting to turn up the vibration to 100%, i think the default is 60% - would that help the 4s motor or does it feel hopeless?
[Nexus 5 General] aohus:
lol that 'rattle' from the camera is the OIS feature.

People don't seem to realize that OIS is a hardware feature.

the lens moves around to compensate for the shakiness.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Agreed. Mine still has a very slight rattle when I put it close to my ear and shake it, but that is acceptable.
[Nexus 5 General] Absolut`:
Delete sry.
[Nexus 5 General] Nbsss:
You're a legend

There are two rattles - one is the camera which is normal, then there is the power button rattle - which is a nuisance. There are some videos that show this
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
In the video I put on how to fix it you can hear the power button rattle.You can hear it clearly through normal use just by pressing anything in the top half of the screen. It soon becomes extremely annoying.
[Nexus 5 General] TecQuality:
There's a question, with the genuine case button still rattles?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
You mean the genuine bumper case from Google Play?
[Nexus 5 General] Multisaft7:
I don't have the rattle issue, that the n5 makes sound by shking or tapping on the screen BUT my power button is a bit shaky and the pressure point isn't optimal.

Can i fix with a little piece of paper the little shaky and pressure point?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
My button was very wobbly, you could practically rock it from side to side. It's a lot firmer now and although it still has a very small amount of movement, it doesn't shake like it did and that infuriating rattle has gone. If yours doesn't rattle but has a lot of movement in it then I would expect doing what I did will help you as it removes the space behind the button, thereby not giving it much room to wiggle.
[Nexus 5 General] Multisaft7:
A list with successes users, which did the fix would be n1 or of users which the fix doesnt works or damaged the phone
[Nexus 5 General] TecQuality:
Yes
[Nexus 5 General] Multisaft7:
Is there any clue or somehting which someone can see that i opended my phone?

Did you use paper or other material to fill the gap to the powerbutton?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
No, there's no sort of warranty seal inside the phone. If you watch the video you can see what paper I used.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
Instead of messing around with the vibration motor myself I just took it back to CPW for a replacement. Just got home, opened replacement and this time it feels like the motor is on it's deathbed. Hardly any feedback at all, just a little whimper. Whilst waiting for the OS update to download I went into the keyboard settings and bumped the haptic to 100ms. It's probably weaker at 100ms than my old phone was at default :eek:

Instead of a loud motor I now have one that hardly makes any noise, or vibration.
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
That's why I decided I was better off sorting it myself, lol. If I had taken another one back then I was playing the game of Nexus Roulette.
[Nexus 5 General] thegtfusion:
im gonna order a a bumper from google play.. it will keep the button in place :P , i dont have the balls to open up my brand new phone :eek:

you just opened it up as a can of beans ( [MENTION=4333423]ciprianruse[/MENTION] his words :D )... you are a legend!!
[Nexus 5 General] Nbsss:
Install 'vibrate tester' and play around with it for a while - the motor may just need to warm up or whatever, that partially fixed mine - Franco did the rest :)
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
I'll do it myself this time around but I'll just wait for motors to pop up online. It doesn't look like the connections should ever be an issue as in your pictures it all looks a tight fit. Must just be pretty cheaply made motors, some stronger than others at lower currents.
[Nexus 5 General] Audioboxer:
hey [MENTION=5525439]deansaunders[/MENTION] I think I asked earlier but you might of missed it, how did you pry the vibrating motor out without damaging it/the plastic? It's stuck down quite well.

I'm also guessing you used a tiny bit of glue?
[Nexus 5 General] deansaunders:
Thought I replied to that, sorry. I said I carefully dug it out with a very small flat headed screwdriver. If need be then get a hair drier and heat the area up, that'll help.
[Nexus 5 General] Lownita:
Is this rattle also present on white phones? Read that they are not affected by this?! Think it is not true though.
[Nexus 5 General] Multisaft7:
i've got the white version. i have no heavy rattle like in the video but my button was shaky...now with the fix it is awesome ;)