yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgenapper:
[MENTION=2747028]Dredyouall[/MENTION]

I can't explain calibration test images, but I think of the iPhone 4/4S and 5/5S/5C screens as having, perhaps, the best color calibration of any smartphone on the market. You're saying that you can't see any difference in the image colour accuracy between both devices? Would you mind going on Google on both devices and searching for 'sunflowers', then pick the same image on both device and compare them, or maybe even better, give us screenshots of both device screens - I know everyone's monitor is different, but we could probably see any difference between the images (favoring the iPhone).
[Nexus 5 General] Dredyouall:
I loaded up a few test images yesterday, and today some pretty sunflowers to add to those. The two are strikingly similar with the iPhone just a tiny bit more saturated (although that was unnoticable until the sunflowers which were a tiny bit paler on the N5. Viewing angles are both superb, can't see any notable difference there.

These photo's were taken with my nexus 4, so obviously they'll be pretty lacking in any detail or colour accuracy, but it may give you an idea of how similar these displays are:
[Nexus 5 General] mickey4mice:
Dang it! I was hoping the screen is at least comparable to HTC One. I can't stand looking at two screens where one is gorgeous and the other significantly worse. Oh well, if N5 screen does ends up being such a disappointment after I got mine this week, I will just return it.

---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 PM ----------

N5 is a bit washed, and iPhone has much better Green.
[Nexus 5 General] paddylaz:
I know I thanked you earlier for putting those up but thanks again dreydyouall.

SO much more useful than hearing 100 different opinions on it and not knowing who to listen to.

Yeah the iPhone is EVER so slightly more saturated, but then I think apple wanted it to be a TINY bit over-saturated from rgb standards. Looks like maybe Google actually got it right this time with an (almost) perfectly calibrated screen!

Problem of course is so many people don't even know what calibrated colours really look like. Most of the people I know who have an s4 for example put the display mode onto 'standard' or 'movie' and they don't realise that even these 'paler' modes are STILL over-saturated.

I found this video on youtube if anyone's interested. He sounds like he knows his stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzM3qAQxMg
[Nexus 5 General] Dredyouall:
Well, when I powered mine on it was a bit of a shock to the retinas certainly, especially coming from my grossly oversaturated dark hard to read nexus 4 (that's with custom gamma settings). But after an hour or so I adjusted to the lighter palate and honestly, I love this screen. It's SO sharp and bright and just, lovely. I can totally see where people are coming from with this, but that says more about the state of screen calibration in android phones then it does about this phones screen.
[Nexus 5 General] jmelan:
i would agree. in the sunflower photo, the iphone looks oversaturated and artificial with the detail lost in the petals of the flower on the lower right, but there are still too many variables to really make a good comparison. i am very happy if that represents the n5 display well.

the real photo for comparison - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Sunflowers.jpg

i am looking at this with a calibrated hp zr24w ips (argyllCMS and dispcalGUI) and, at least here, the n5 pic looks way closer than the iphone to the original
[Nexus 5 General] caribouxda:
I was doing some research in the nexus 4 forum and they had pure blacks after some developer called franco implemented that option in his kernel. Also ips screens do not have pure blacks like in amoled because they are not oversaturated but at least you get pure whites which in amoled you can hardly get.

---------- Post added at 01:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:51 AM ----------

You sound like a troll to me. This phone is not cheap. Just google is not making 400$ profit like samsung and other manufacturers make. It costs only $200 to make the galaxy s4. You will call it cheap phone? Also best buy will sell this for 799$. Do you have a source to prove screen on this phone is cheap? It results to me it is the same exact one as in lg g2 with the only difference that colors are natural.
[Nexus 5 General] bmoreboy02:
Bestbuy is not selling this phine for $799 lol
[Nexus 5 General] paddylaz:
One thing about the nexus 4 (that might be partly the reason suspicions are high about the n5 screen quality) is that the screen calibration got altered half-way through it's product cycle. Earlier ones had 'warmer' screens and were more muted. This was improved/re-calibrated.

There's an article somewhere doing the rounds about that but am off to bed now so can't be arsed to find it.
[Nexus 5 General] defffizz:
People in here are so convinced that nexus phones have bad display, and iphones have amazing display, and nothing can change their mind. Have you ever tried comparing n4 screen with stock calibration with any properly calibrated monitor? There isn't much of a difference. Load some nice custom presets (which fix banding), it looks even better. Now, with n5, you get perfect, sharpest, brightest ips display, and you already know it sucks (most of you didn't even see the phone). Problem is that people are very used to samsung amoleds.
[Nexus 5 General] sluma:
Here is another take on the nexus 5, although no scientific tests we run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElzM3qAQxMg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
People like a processed look in general! Kinda like photography....the jpeg always looks better than the raw even though the raw in the closest representation to what the sensor sees and the jpeg is processed!

Same reason why Panasonic is ditching plasma cause consumers are buying LED LCD instead cause they think it is a better picture!
[Nexus 5 General] nap007:
I must remind you all that what you see here also very depending on your display you currently use, and frankly most pc/laptop monitors are also terribly calibrated, I've tweaked my monitor to get it close to the 6500K color temp and I don't see any washed out n5 screen from that dredyouall's pics, in fact for me the iphone is the one slightly over saturated, IMO.
[Nexus 5 General] 1stx2:
As long as the blacks aren't deep purple like they were on my 3 returned galaxy nexus's, idc. That was pathetic.
[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
The screen on the GNEX was garbage in general. I owned 2 and no matter how much I tweaked them, I could never get them to look the same!
[Nexus 5 General] chakra:
My nexus 5 isn't here yet, but I think it looks fine compared to my g2. Now to be honest I have not actually seen the nexus yet. But my tests show conclusively that the screen is comparable to the g2. :)
[Nexus 5 General] lostnuke:
That's ridiculous. But I don't think it's Google.
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgenapper:
Thank you! I'm not a photo expert, but the sunflower images are the ones I always go to when comparing the screens of different devices because we humans can see many different shades of green, and the yellow petals are a nice contrast against the leaves.

Judging from the sunflower photos, I think that the Nexus 5 image is slightly more natural looking and less saturated, while the iPhone image may look amazing per se, but when put side by side with the Nexus 5 it becomes apparent that the greens are a bit more saturated (vivid) and the yellows are brighter. This does not mean that the Nexus 5 color accuracy is lacking, it just means that it is calibrated to be more accurate by a small amount.

As for the other pic at the top, it is easy to see why people might think that the Nexus 5 is more washed out because people tend to prefer more vivid and colors that pop on the screen, whereas I have developed a slighter preference for more natural colors.

tl;dr based on the pics, I think both screens are gorgeous and the difference is not enough to make me want to change anything on the Nexus 5. This opinion might change when I actually have my device in hand and I'm playing with it, but for now I think that there is no concern if the screen quality is like this.

---------- Post added at 12:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 AM ----------

Yeah, I understand that, but what I'm really after is seeing the difference between the Nexus 5 and the iPhone 5's color saturation levels, which you can discern from these images regardless of monitor calibration and the quality of the Nexus 4's camera.

As a side note, I love how you can see about 1/4" more of the picture on either side of the Nexus 5 compared to the iPhone 5, and that 'Retina' display marketing aside, the 445ppi of the Nexus 5 is noticeable even in these pictures. I've actually compared a similar pic on my GS4A (441ppi, I think) against that of an iPhone 5S and once you see the difference in sharpness even at normal viewing distances, you just can't unsee it...
[Nexus 5 General] proxuser:
nothing to compare, nexus 5 has great screen. when you compare nexus 4 and optimus g then you right, but nexus 5 screen is good enough for that price.
[Nexus 5 General] caribouxda:
That is what leaked documents say. Read the news.
[Nexus 5 General] DammitCubs:
It's either two things:

1) just like optimus G -- the Nexus 4 underclocked the CPU due thermal limits -- same could be happening here.

2) The version is 4.4 vs 4.3 -- there could be issues with optimization.

Everything needs to be normalized before comparing.
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
No they dont. They're selling it for $449. The $800 was just a placeholder like they always do.
[Nexus 5 General] shlk7:
SS

Hi !! Thanks for the pictures. I'm wondering though, if you take a screen shot of the pictures from the respective phones would it be a better comparison of the colors? Again I'm not really sure, but is it possible the n4 might be having an effect based on it's calibration?

Here's the same picture from a HTC one (screenshot) :)
[Nexus 5 General] drew_grant:
The HTC One is probably the most balanced of screen saturation. IMO it displays the most realistic when compared to over saturated Samsung screens. The question I have is this: is the N5 screen better than the 4? Not going to lie, I HATED the N4 screen because of how washed out the colors were.
[Nexus 5 General] ChrisM75:
And here with go with the 'troll' comments again. I forgot that when you buy a phone you have to worship it like a god on XDA otherwise you are a troll.

The S4 does not cost $200 to make, its nearer $300 and that figure only covers the parts, not the construction, marketing, distribution and all the other costs. There are so many lies and misunderstandings passed around over this issue.
[Nexus 5 General] rest0ck:
Just to make this clear : the Default n4 settings are not calibrated while almost every samsung screen is oversaturated.

N4 = washed out. And i really hope they fixed that on the n5 because i hate it :s

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 5 General] Emama:
I wanna see the comparison between N4 and N5
[Nexus 5 General] agormog:
Screenshots offer absolutely no representation of the display, as it is not used to create them.
[Nexus 5 General] dazed1:
So many noobs in this thread lol.

You may pray to god, Google is not following the retarded trend with over saturation ~ 5000K instead of 6500-7000K, they offer the only products which look colder, instead of warm-crap-oversaturation. Colder (normal ~6500K colors) > over saturated any day, they make everything look alot more realistic.

I laugh in the face of LG, they put IPS on their G2 to make it ovesaturated like Amoled, what a retarded decision, downgrading to Amoled like colors, with the most superior display type :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] lopri:
The screen looks bad if that is what I am going to see when mine arrives. White is pinkish and black is grey.. Forget iPhones - I don't care about those. Judging purely by a couple of Youtube videos, the N5's screen isn't even as good as that of the S4 and the One, let alone the G2 and the Note 3.
[Nexus 5 General] dazed1:
Yea, you can tell from the videos better then the ones uploading them, and praise the display. Great logic :good:
[Nexus 5 General] shlk7:
Oh OK!

Thanks for clarifying! :good:
[Nexus 5 General] Jiyeon90:
Well apparently people love the g2 screen so I doubt that was a dumb decision by lg
[Nexus 5 General] paddylaz:
No you're right........ all the dumbness was gathered up instead, pumped full of steroids, given sombreros and injected into that god awful UI.
[Nexus 5 General] Jockson:
Color temperature is not the same as color saturation! You can have a cold, oversaturated display and vice versa.

N4 had a good native panel contrast for an LCD, although the screen was a bit too reflective making perceived contrast not so great. This is my main worry about the N5 screen. It looks even worse in that regard and no amount of calibration can fix that.
[Nexus 5 General] sluflyer06:
I am work right now so i'm on some sh*tty Dell mid range monitors but they're still calibrated to D65 at 120nits with a spectrometer and color is as good as it can be on these thigns and the N5 screen looks good from here, will have to check when I get home on a fully calibrated and verified monitor.

You guys are way too worrysome, there really aren't any bad screens anymore on high end phones.
[Nexus 5 General] Vertron:
Very impressed with my N5 screen. Blacks look good to me. Nice colours, doesn't look washed out at all.
[Nexus 5 General] jmelan:
just put all of my phones side by side and attempted to take a pic but failed miserably - brightness really messes with the pics. here you go anyway

In comparison to my calibrated ZR24W, for the purposes of color accuracy with the sunflower pic:

N5>iphone 4>S4>>S3 (none of the phones got the yellow quite right but the green on the n5 was perfect)

i do not have a iphone 5 or 5s to compare to (4 is the last apple product i buy).

but really happy with the screen on the n5!!!!!
[Nexus 5 General] Savitar:
Data on screen comparison

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47544319#post47544319

Here is some Data on the screens. Have fun.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hrashdan:
hello,

i have a Xperia u JB and i am trying to connect it to my windows 8 x64 computer but it won't

when i connect it , in device manager i see st25i with yellow mark next to it, and i can't find any driver

while in fast-boot the same but with different name"

i tried installing the driver from flashtools drivers but it fails

i tried these methods from this fourm but it failed "most of the comments stated that it failed because its x64 not x32

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2170114

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36603439

on this one i successfully disable driver signature enforcement but when i install the driver from flash tool it says "DPInst.exe does not execute on ÿour operating system "

please help i have been trying for days

thanks
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nagarjuna93:
the second method u followed must work try again to disable driver signature enforcement and install the drivers if it shows the same error

try referring this page http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff544842(v=vs.85).aspx

it explains about "Driver Package Installer (DPInst)".
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kopter36:
What mode do you want to connect your phone? Mtp, fastboot or flash? If mtp mode its easy.. Just go to device manager and expand the usb controller you will see 1 or more "usb composite devices" listed there.. Just uninstalled every driver as that name and while you're doing it make sure your phone connected to pc in the beginning.. After uninstall succesfull just refresh device manager and it will automatically install a new driver.. Hope it help.. :)

If it still cant recognized just reboot your pc with phone still connected to pc..
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hrashdan:
i cant conecct my phone using any mode, tried what you said for mtp, deleted all usb composite devices "visable and hidden" and all mtp devices, rebooted my pc but still no luck :S

thanks for help
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hrashdan:
still same message :S

thanks for help
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] ChikeD:
Have you followed flashtool instructions for windows 8?
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] kopter36:
Woah really? Im using freshly-installed Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit on laptop and i didn't even installed ANY drivers yet (not even Flashtool) and my phone easily recognized although i had to do the step above sometimes. And i tried it using both USB2.0 and 3.0 and it always worked. A bad pc usb slot/data cable/phone micro usb slot maybe? :confused:
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hrashdan:
yes i did, but when i install the drivers from the flashtool drivers it says "DPInst.exe does not execute on ÿour operating system "

is there is any other way to install drivers other than flashtool?

thanks

the phone and the cable works perfectly on other computers (win7 , vista) but not here on win 8

and the usb slots are fine :confused
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] nosmaster:
Please try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2511958
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] hrashdan:
says windows can't find drivers for your device although i manually selected it :rolleyes:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
Hi,

Is it possible to upgrade radio rom and leave other parts untouched?

I have trouble with 01.01.10 radio, GPRS gets stuck often. I want to flash 01.04.10.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] x_jane:
I'm to, please :cry:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Button:
I've already tried 1.9.10 radio from norwegian ROM, - it was useless... I still can't start GPRS without SR :( .

What can we do with MTS... :?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] x_jane:
With norwegian ROM? Soft reset? Fu... MTS! :evil:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
I'm not sure it's MTS' fault. My previous Qtek 9090 with the newest radio rom worked fine.

I was told that 01.04.10 has no such problem so I want to try it but cannot find a way.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Button:
Vishni: Sure it's not MTS fault, but why I have no problem with other two: Beeline and Megafon :roll: ?

Russian ROM has 1.4.10 radio. If you want it I can upload ntrw dump, but it is 128 Mb...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
Hm-m... I have Russian ROM too but radio is 01.01.10.

1. What is the OS rom version in your Russian ROM? 1.3.9.4 RUS?

2. 1.4.10 radio has GPRS trouble too using MTS, hasn't it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ssn04:
I have a Jasjar, which was running:

ROM version 1.13.53 WWE

Radio version 1.03.01

ExtROM version 1.13.137 WWE

I ran the radio-only upgrade, which errored the first time but ran without problem the second time. After a soft reset, I now have:

ROM version 1.13.53 WWE

Radio version 1.04.02

ExtROM version 1.13.137 WWE

All my settings/hacks were retained and no information was lost. The radio appears to be stable.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ssn04:
Sorry - wrong forum
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] garywizard:
My Wizard has no problem at all.

With radio rom 01.12.10
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] arnonrgo:
Where did you got the updated ROM from ?

Arnon
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] garywizard:
i bought my wizard last week and the rom version is already the latest one.

i didnt update the rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Button:
Hi ssn04!

Can You post your radio-only upgrade, please.

Tnx.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
I visited Russian qtek forum and I've found the problem is on Wizard+MTS network, radio version doesn't matter.

To repeat the problem just make a call, after that you cannot download any byte until SR.

I hope 01.12.10 would help...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vladsm:
Ïðîøèëñÿ. Íåò, ïîõîæå, ÷òî íå ïîìîãàåò :(

Òàê ÷òî æä¸ì äàëüøå, ïîêà ÌÒÑ íàñòðîèò-òàêè ñâî¸ æåëåçî...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
I've tried. 01.12.10 didn't help :cry:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rkorzuch:
I don't think your problem is the radio but the OS. I was having GPRS issues until I upgrade the OS to 1.6.7.1 Rom. Since then I have not had any issues.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
What kind of issue you were having? I cannot download anything via GPRS connection after any voice call untill softreset.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rkorzuch:
The GPRS issue I was having was the GPRS Icon would show that it was connected but it wouldn't move any data. I had to shutdown the GPRS connection by holding the "End" button and restablish the connection. I haven't had that problem since I updated the OS Rom. However I have only had the new Rom installed for a day.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] awojtas:
gprs issue

I am having the exact same issue with GPRS.

No data is transferred until you hold the red hangup button, then reconnect.

i-mate K-JAM

ROM 1.1.9.3

Radio 01.01.10

Network: Vodafone NZ

Seems to happen randomly and typically in Internet Explorer - just sits there saying "Locating..." but never goes to opening the page.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
Unfortunately, my issue is different. I have to make soft reset, restablishing of connection doesn't fix problem.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vishny:
I've just tested OS ROM 1.6.7.1 with radio ROM 1.12.10, my GPRS issue still remains :(
[HTC EVO 3D] Qron:
I've recently noticed that Facebook for HTC app stopped working. I really liked it cause it was convenient way to synchronize Facebook calendar with the one from HTC. Do you know any other way to do that?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medoooooo:
Hi dev i have a req i want a numeric row on google keyboard for aosp or cm like the the tw original keyboard this is important to me

Plz if anyone can help

And i don't want to use market keyboards because they don't match the original keyboard layout
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medoooooo:
Hi guys everyone in favour of this pls write so dev can see that i am not the only one interested
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medoooooo:
No replays
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medoooooo:
lol i made it check it out

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2657791
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geordie 34:
I currently have a s4 thinking about getting a n5 on a 4g contract how do they compare are they any good had lgs before with disastrous consequences
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geordie 34:
Does anyone reply on this thread
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marco Munoz:
Is your S4 a Google Play Edition? Why do you want the Nexus 5?

If you want the N5 for Android 4.4 I would wait for the update to come for your S4.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamel_tza:
My first piece of advice is get it from google and not your carrier if possible. Google sells it cheaper than any carrier I've seen. Secondly, Since you have the s4 you might want to wait. Essentially the only things being upgraded for you (objectively speaking) is the Processor chip and OIS for the camera. Everything else is either equal or lesser. In your case, I would only suggest upgrading if updates are of importance for you. If they aren't wait for the next big smartphone release.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geordie 34:
My son is going to use my s4 I have found a 4g contract deal that comes with a n7 free cheaper than my s4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pert_S:
I would say go for it if it's a good deal.

Since your son will be using the S4 then you would need a phone and the N5 will be a good but not amazing upgrade hardware wise, though software wise imo is far superior to TW.