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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Lmao hahhahahah. Looks like the moto x is a beast, many ppl love that phone. It's decided, I'll sell my nexus 5 as soon as it arrives. I'm way too spoiled by G2 battery life.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] plasticmoz:
I got hold of a N5 today too, much like Metal I'm coming from a Moto X and I hate to say it with the exception of the KitKat changes which will come to the X anyway so I'll call that a wash I agree with him on nearly all counts.

The form factor and the battery life are the two biggest things for me. The X just feels so incredible in hand it's spoiling all these larger phones, at least for me. The speaker on the N5 is also far, far worse than the X and thus far the battery life isn't close though it's still on a first charge so I'll wait and see. Going to use it for a day or two and see how it holds up with regular use.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] austriak:
Why not just return it? I've been watching ebay out of curiosity and some people are paying more but when you factor in ebay and PayPal fees, they are losing money.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] digweed4me:
I like nothing about g2 except battery life. I love my nexus it's a perfect phone pure aosp roms and kernel and new dialer is sick. 4.4 is out of this world perfect phone
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Yeah man, the Moto X is hands down the best phone I've ever owned. And I have had every flagship Android device on Sprint and quite a few on AT&T. The X is the only phone that I have had no desire to flash a custom ROM on. Just made a few mods with GravityBox and it is perfect. Definitely NOT getting rid of it for the N5. I'll probably still keep the N5 just because, but the X will remain my primary phone until the X2 comes out.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
I'll sell it locally on craigslist.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Only way to do it! I sell all my old devices on Craigslist. It's a godsend.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Yep. And I live in the DC area and craigslist is pretty busy here so hopefully it shouldn't be too hard. I won't even unbox it to see how it look. I might get a moto x as a secondary device, way too many great feedback for me to over look it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paddington:
Can't speak to battery life yet, but...

Nexus 5 looks better.

Nexus 5 feels much sturdier.

I can see why some people (especially females) might find the N5 too big, but to me, the N5 fits better in my hand. I'm convinced it is the increased bezel at the bottom that makes it easier to use the navigation buttons when holding it.

Nexus 5 screen looks so much better than the cartoony, over-saturated AMOLED screen of the Moto X.

Nexus 5 is smoother, less laggy, more buttery all around.

Nexus 5 camera is much better, even after the Moto X update.

Nexus 5 has KitKat now; with Motorola's track record, there is no telling when the Moto X will get the 4.4 update. GNex was released with ICS 4.0, while the Moto RAZR was released as "ICS upgradeable." It took what, nine months?

The only things that the Moto X wins in are...

Active Notifications is a pretty great feature. It needed improvement (more interaction than open or dismiss), but it is better than just an LED indicator.

Shake twice for camera. I enjoyed that.

Unless the Nexus 5 battery is just horrendous--i.e. 2.5 hours of screen-on time, like the GNex--it is clearly the superior device. I would take the Nexus 5 hands down at an even price. The facts that the Nexus 5 is much cheaper, it is unlocked on AT&T, and it will have much more development makes it seem like a silly question to even consider the Moto X. Maybe if I had kid hands?

tl; dr: Nexus 5 wins by a long shot.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaelFaroe:
I am currently debating between these two phones. I really like the active notifications feature I have heard about on the Moto X, but not sure if that alone would justify the price difference to me. I am fine with the battery life on my N4, so if the N5 battery is similar it won't matter to me that the Moto X is better in that regard. I like the performance I have seen from the N5, but from what I understand the Moto X is silky smooth even with a weaker processor.

I am most curious though how the wake-by-voice / touchless controls compares between the two. Can anybody who has used both compare those at all? Are they the same? Is the Moto X slightly better (if so, how)? Is the Nexus 5 slightly better (again if so, how)?

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devilicus:
Wow....I also have both devices, and you've summed up my thoughts perfectly. I do like the Nexus 5 and plan on using both phones regularly, but the screen being washed out irritates me, especially since the Nexus 4 had the same well known problem. Battery life also is on par with yours; I had an HTC One as well and the battery was also nothing to write home about. Maybe its just 1080p phones in general.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DssTrainer:
Nexus 5 (and all other 4.4 android phones) will need to be powered on before they can start listening.

Moto X is the ONLY phone that allows you to do it while the screen is off.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paddington:
The Nexus 5 is smoother. This isn't even close. The Moto X can get laggy. I've only had the Nexus 5 for 24 hours, but it has shown zero signs of lag. The Moto X showed signs within the first ten minutes.

That being said, the Moto X's always-on listening is vastly overrated. For one, the "Okay, Google Now" command screws up all the time. More often than not, the "Now" part shows up as part of the command being issued when the speech is converted to text. So, for example, when I say "Okay, Google Now. Call John." instead of calling John, it does a Google search for "Now call John." I'd say the Moto X has a 15-20% accuracy when speaking to it from the off position. Remember the commercial where they say "Okay Google Now, play [insert track name]?" Give it a shot. I tried 15-20 times, and it never worked. On top of all of this inaccuracy, there is a several second delay between issuing the command and the phone actually recognizing the speech and processing. The real killer is that it is supposed to be trained to your voice, but it obviously lacks the technology to really do so. Therefore, the voice commands that can be issued with a secure lock screen are very limited. If you have a secure lock screen, this feature is useless.

With the Nexus 5, yes, the phone does have to be on to issue a command, but it works. So far, my Nexus 5 has always recognized my command first try. It converts my speech to text more accurately than I thought possible. Coming from the Moto X, I noticed a huge difference here, and I was very pleasantly surprised.

So, sure, the always-listening function on the Moto X would be cool, but it simply doesn't work within any acceptable range of accuracy. I would much rather turn on my phone and have it register my command first try than have to issue the command three times only to give up and do the task manually.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
You are officially the first person (out of hundreds that I've interacted with, mind you) who has made any claims about the Moto X being laggy. I have had mine since launch day and haven't experienced any lag or slowdown whatsoever.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paddington:
I owned the phone for about six weeks, and it was laggy. It was like a Blackberry; I had to restart it every few days.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
You must have had a defective device. The Moto X is the smoothest device I have ever owned, and is every bit as smooth and lag free as the N5. I can go a week without rebooting and have zero issues.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raftysworld:
Actually, I also had quite a bit of lag on my Moto X... at least enough that it was noticeably worse than the Nexus 5 I've had since yesterday. Still deciding which one to keep, but leaning HEAVILY towards Nexus 5 at this point.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Don't know what to tell ya. I ditched an HTC One and a GS4 for the X and it was the best decision I'd made in a while. I'm sitting here with my X and N5 side by side and the X is every bit as smooth as the N5 and there is no noticeable difference in speed. Not once have I experienced lag or slowdown on it. What model Moto X do you have and what carrier?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raftysworld:
I have the T-Mobile version purchased direct from Motorola.

In any case, I completely agree with you that ditching the One and GS4 for the X was a great choice. The X is just all around so much better of a device... I made the same transition. I just think I'm about to switch to the Nexus 5... both are very solid options though.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
The N5 is definitely a great phone, I just don't think it's any better than the X. I got my N5 yesterday, played around with it all day, and still decided to take my X with me for the day today. Tomorrow I am going to force myself to use the N5 instead to see if I can grow to like it some more.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paddington:
My device was not defective. The Nexus 5 is better.

I miss active notifications, but that feature is not worth having a craptastic AMOLED screen that's no better than my Galaxy Nexus was. The only feature I wish I could carry over is the shake twice for camera.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moldovanos:
Looks like you guys have not heard of Dynamic notifications from Play store?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
I dunno man, if I handed you my Moto X I'd bet quite a bit of money that you couldn't point out any lag. I've been with Android since the very beginning so I am well acquainted with lag and laggy devices. My Moto X isn't one of them. As far as the screen goes, I prefer the X's screen by a wide margin but can totally understand why you would like the N5's better. I actually hated amoled screens up until I got the Moto X.

At any rate, I'm not gonna try and convince you that the Moto X is the better device as it is just a matter of opinion. You like the N5 better, and I totally respect that. It's a great device and I'm glad that you're enjoying it. Cheers bud!
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
I was lucky enough to get my Nexus 5 earlier today. Here are my first impressions. Please share yours!

My first thought was, when compared to my Nexus 4, is that the Nexus 5 is really light! Almost too light in my opinion.

The screen is beautiful. Its crisp and big. While the bezels are small, its not LG G2 small. Which disappointed me a bit. I'm pinning for an actual "edge to edge" display.

The soft rubber grip and slightly contoured back makes the phone feel better in the hand than my Nexus 4 did. Holding the phone almost feels like holding the Droid DNA a bit. But smaller.

The touch screen is a lot more sensitive than the Nexus 4. And the xda app likes to crash under kit Kat :-/

I'm annoyed at the IMEI sticker on the back. I feel like its going to peel away in a few days.

It doesn't torque in your hands like a cheap Samsung galaxy S3/S4. The build quality feels great. Almost like an HTC phone.

I would much rather have a metal band around the outside instead of rubberized plastic, but that's just me.

The Nexus 5 fits nicely on the Nexus 4 charging orb. When placing it on the orb, the bottom of the Nexus 5 rests on the countertop. No random phone slide offs like the Nexus 4,

Kit Kat is FAST! The keyboard is great. Probably due a lot to a much more responsive screen.

Most apps are working fine...but xda app crashes a lot. I suppose that's to be expected.

The battery life seems okay. I always am placing my phone on a charger, so I can't say I'm that great of a judge of battery life.

LTE performance with T-Mobile is the same between Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. I'm planning on switching back to sprint tomorrow....I had sprint for a few years. I went from the Evo LTE to the Nexus 4 on T-Mobile.

The camera...I'm a bit unimpressed so far. I was expecting a fast burst style. Like I had on my Evo LTE. Trying to take pictures of a 19 month old is tricky. I had a bunch of blurred photos.

Those are my day 1 impressions. What's everyone else's?
[Nexus 5 General] Cozmo85:
The imei sticker is supposed to be removed.
[Nexus 5 General] difyel:
sounds about good , my only concern is the battery life , there are many threads about this with some contradictory info .
[Nexus 5 General] Carver1:
It's all different because everyone uses their phone differently. You can't judge how good your battery life will be based off of how someone else uses their phone. Wait for yours to come in and try it out.. it's the only way to figure it out for yourself :good:
[Nexus 5 General] ohhdavid:
Honestly, I am pretty disappointed :( Perhaps it is just my unit but the bottom left corner, where the phone rests naturally in my palm, is rather sharp and already I stopped playing with it because my hand got uncomfortable. Furthermore, I am really really missing the plastic buttons on the Nexus 4. They were smooth, soft and comfortable to rest my fingers on. These ceramic buttons have very sharp edges and the volume button, which I tend to rest my fingers on, feels really uncomfortable to me like it is going to cut my finger. These words are way too harsh but not inaccurate. Am I alone on this?

How? It seems pretty well stuck on there.. I don't want to start scratching at it to get it off only to find it wasn't supposed to be removed and leaves a nasty residue or even worse scratches the plastic.
[Nexus 5 General] iDoc21:
Good to know about the camera. I have an 18 month and I was worried about the photo quality. Aosp ROMs always had blurry pics while TW camera on my Note 3 manages to get great shots with motion. I haven't taken my N5 out of the box yet, as I have someone wanting to trade me an LG G2 for it. This just confirms that I'm going to do that trade!
[Nexus 5 General] A.VOID:
I had a couple app issues too. Taptu borked when I first installed and I had to reboot the phone.

It will take a few weeks for developers to get their app 4.4 compatible
[Nexus 5 General] redoctober357:
I feel a little disappointed. I went from a Nexus 4 to this and I guess I'm having trouble seeing past the amazing that the jump from a GNEX to a Nexus 4 was. I like the bigger screen and the overall lightness. Battery is to be determine. I might be imagining this, but I feel the speakers on the Nexus 4 are much better. The back speaker is much louder and clear and the front is much clearer as well. Anyone else feel this way? Maybe I haven't spent enough time with the Nexus 5 to fully appreciate everything and maybe the introduction of custom roms will help.
[Nexus 5 General] elementaldragon:
Yea... but from what a lot of people are saying, the G2's camera isn't all rainbows and unicorns, either.
[Nexus 5 General] Monk4Life:
It may not be kit kat causing the crashes. XDA for me lately has been crashing all the time. It seems like some posts I can't click on with out it crashing while others work just fine. Just an FYI. And this is with a S4 running CM10.2

Thanks for the review.
[Nexus 5 General] twoeleven99:
xda has been crashing on my s4 recently
[Nexus 5 General] augie7107:
My HTC One also, just since yesterday.
[Nexus 5 General] ianmere:
Please could you do a simple Touchscreen+Audio Latency test? So many reviews appearing around the web but none have tested Latency. Apparently the touchscreen on the Nexus 5 is pretty good so I hope it performs well.

For the people interested in the Nexus 5 for realtime music creation this is info we desperately need.

Anyway here is how to do a simple test:

Install a musical app, either drumming or keyboard.

Install a sound recording app,

Start recording audio and give the screen a good tap in the musical app, this way both the "tap" and resulting drum or keyboard sound will get recorded.

Open that saved .wav up in audacity then zoom in and observe the visual audio waveforms then measure the distance between the TAP and the sound actually playing using the timeline.

On my devices I was getting around 175ms if the particular music app used the "Sound Pool" class or 250+ if using "Audio Track" I'm running android 4.2. Anything under 100ms would start to be useful anything under 50ms would be amazing given googles track record in this area.
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
I did this...not sure if I did it correctly. I've uploaded a pic and the .wav file for you to look at. I'm not this granular about the sound/feedback! The .png pic file is a zoom in of the tap and the actual music playing.

Attached the .png of audacity (picked it best I could) and the .wav file in a .zip file (stupid xda attachment restrictions!)
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
For camera, I'd go Sony Xperia Z / Sony Xperia Z1 (mini) or HTC One.

My wife is still using an HTC Evo 4G LTE (HTC One X version for Sprint) and the pictures are really good off of that phone. She gets great pics of our 19 month old with that phone.

I don't know that LG G2 camera would beat any of the three phones i mentioned above.
[Nexus 5 General] nexicon:
Lol you sure it wasn't me?! We're both in the same city and i've been hitting people up. Who knows
[Nexus 5 General] ianmere:
Thanks so much!!, that has provided us with some very good info, your test was perfect, I could clearly hear and see the TAP's and the resulting notes. All you had to do it zoom in audacity to see the waveforms and make the measurements.

I also had a audio file from a Xperia Z1, so I put them head to head:

The results of total latency (Touchscreen+Audio) :

Xperia Z1 android 4.3 180ms

Nexus 5 android 4.4 102ms

One question, what application did you use? There are two popular ways to playback sound, one is OpenSL ES audio, another is SoundPool,

for OpenSL ES audio you can use the app called "Music Synthesizer for Android" it is made my someone working at Google they have made all the optimizations to playback sound as fast as possible, or you could try my app haha: "Tablet Drums" at the moment I'm using "SoundPool" I will swap to OpenSL ES audio too if the results are better.

Anyway thanks very much the results are good enough to persuade me to purchase a nexus 5 too.
[Nexus 5 General] cipsaz:
Just got the phone today and the experience is not good so far... Came from the N4 and I do think this is a let down.

1. The back sticker? Seriously, Google?

2. The icons are so big. Maybe its normal for all 5" inch phones, but looks not normal to me. They look stretched.

3. What was the fuzz about the KitKat? Was that really needed? All I see is a few updated apps.

4. The display looks bad. Worse viewing angles than on the N4 and blacks as well. Everything looks washed out on it.

5. I purchased the OEM bumper and that's a total Google ripoff. Feels more like a $19.99 product, but definitely not the $34.99. The phone looks good in hand, but once you put it into a bumper it kills it. Makes the phone bulky as hell.

6. The speaker. It does the job, but it goes through the whole phone.

7. I don't care about the spec, the N5 basically brings nothing on the table except for the LTE support that was needed. Glad Google didn't hold the event, otherwise would have been a disaster.
[Nexus 5 General] ethantarheels123:
For all those experiencing bad screen compared to nexus 4, the nexus 5 screen is uncalibrated, or calibrated poorly. Faux said that kernel rgb control should be possible, so it shouldn't be much longer until we get better picture. BTW, I think the actual LCD panel inside of this is very similar, if not the same, as the G2. Its just the calibration and software saturation LG implemented on the G2 to make it look like that.
[Nexus 5 General] TobiS87:
1. What's wrong with that sticker? Do you guys leave it on the phone? :D Just peel it off!

2. Use a custom launcher.

3. When you just see "a few updated apps" then you didn't really use KitKat yet.

4. Perhaps I am lucky but my display is great. I don't check viewing angles... who looks on his phone from the side. Other than that I really like the colours.

7. If you don't care about specs then why did you get the N5 anyways?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 10 mit Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 5 General] muyoso:
On my Nexus 5, the display is definitely too warm. I can tell that it is a very good display, but whites should never have a reddish hue to them at max brightness.

The speaker is a disappointment in that its mono and not very loud.

Overall I really like the phone, but again I have only handled mine for maybe 20 minutes so far.
[Nexus 5 General] cipsaz:
I got the N5 for the whole experience and not for the specs.
[Nexus 5 General] TonyTurboII:
Do you have the 16 or 32gb model?
[Nexus 5 General] Jaxidian:
Just to add a few more observations:

1. My touchscreen seems a little too sensitive.

2. Screen is gorgeous! I'm a fan of it!

3. Google experience launcher won't be replacing Nova anytime soon.

4. The white back is NOT non-slip. It's quite slippery. :(

5. Go download Moves for the pedometer. Most people forgot about this!

6. Most refreshed apps are nice.

7. The Qi charging area seems to be much larger than the N4 had. It's easier to position on chargers.
[Nexus 5 General] cdd543:
Good point about the white back. I noticed that as well. It doesn't feel like satin to me(the way the black was described). It feels like slick plastic.
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
Just a generic app called "sound recorder"
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
Black 32gb model.

I'm not selling it lol! I like Sprint's network in my area over T-Mobile and AT&T. I'm really glad I can go back to sprint!
[Nexus 5 General] Jaxidian:
Yeah, it's just a matte hard plastic. There's nothing soft or silky about it. I'm actually kinda disappointed about it.
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
I'm glad I opted for the black model. I almost went with the white one.

I think the screen is amazing. I don't know how/why most are complaining about it.

Qi charging area is much better IMO over nexus 4. I was worried it would end up being in a stupid place that would make the Nexus 5 not compatible with the Nexus 4 orb. I've got three of them. I'd be pissed.

The only other launcher I've used is trebuchet with CM. Not a big fan of Nova launcher.
[Nexus 5 General] patass:
My only real problem is that if you hold the phone horizontal for movies or games your left hand blocks the headphone jack and your right hand blocks the speaker. Lose lose, dunno what's up with that.
[Nexus 5 General] fcng:
It was better..

redoctober,

I feel that after the update to 4.3 the N4 speaker volume cranked up a few notches. It is quite loud and clear. The earpiece volume had always been loud and clear. I don't have the N5 yet but will demo it at brick and mortar stores to compare the performance of the speaker soon.
[Sony Xperia ZL] alitunay:
Hi there,

Long time wather and lurker first time poster. I have a c6502 that is stuck at rebooting into flash mode. I can get it back to fastboot mode but when ever the phone reboots in gets back into flash mode. I tried flashing all kinds of ftf's to get back to booting into system but no availl. The main reson of doing so was the phone would reboot once it was unplugged from the power source. I tried to virginize the phone but did not make any difference. I am using flashtool 09.13. I also tried flashing different kernels (doomlord kernel) via fastboot command but it did not make any difference also. Is my phone dead? Any help would be appreciated.
[Sony Xperia ZL] martin132014:
Try using Sony update center...restore it that way...
[Sony Xperia ZL] alitunay:
Thank you for your quick response but it is giving me the " your software is modified and I don't give a crap" error. Any other ideas?
[Sony Xperia ZL] alitunay:
Quick update, I was able to get the sony update work after re-locking the bootloader via flashtool but even after going through a full update the phone keeps restarting to flash mode. Desperate.
[RAZR i Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matthaues:
What do you guys think about these apps. They really work or are just waste?