yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
Do not install

At this point I have every reason to believe there is a huge threat with rooting this way. The su binary starts a listening server and remains connected:

unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5629 3127/su /dev/com.mgyun.shua.su.daemon/server

unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 11730 3118/.suv

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root@jfltevzw:/dev # ls -la

ls -la

---------- root root 0 1970-03-11 22:45 .coldboot_done

drwx--x--x system system 1970-03-11 22:45 .secure_storage

-rw-r--r-- root root 66560 1970-03-11 22:45 __properties__

crw-rw-r-- system radio 10, 25 1970-03-11 22:45 alarm

crw-rw---- adb adb 10, 30 1970-03-11 22:45 android_adb

crw-rw-rw- root root 10, 21 1970-03-11 22:45 ashmem

crw------- nfc nfc 10, 34 1970-03-11 22:45 bcm2079x

crw-rw-rw- root root 10, 22 1970-03-11 22:45 binder

drwxr-xr-x root root 2013-11-04 13:26 block

crw------- bluetooth bluetooth 10, 224 1970-03-11 22:45 btlock

drwxr-xr-x root root 1970-03-11 22:45 bus

crw------- root root 10, 28 1970-03-11 22:45 ccid_bulk

crw------- root root 10, 29 1970-03-11 22:45 ccid_ctrl

drwxrwx--- u0_a247 u0_a247 2013-11-04 13:26 com.mgyun.shua.su

drwxr-xr-x root root 2013-11-04 13:43 com.mgyun.shua.su.daemon

crw------- root root 5, 1 1970-03-11 22:45 console

In all fairness that could be an update daemon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kdogg78:
if we uninstall the Chinese SU app is the phone clean.. or do i need a full wipe?

Also my PC appears to RUN OK. looking for any malware but don't see any.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
That's not a listening network server, it's a local RPC daemon. That may be how the su program talks to the new SuperSU program.

What do you see if you try

$ netstat -an | grep LISTEN

That will show you any existing network listeners that anyone could connect to.

$ netstat -an | grep ESTAB

will show you established connections.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
Already did that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
You hashed every file in /system and subdirectories prior to using vroot, then checked that no new files and no altered files were found afterwards?

If so, that's very good info. If you didn't do what I said then it's not useful info.

Can you also verify that rooting did not trip the Knox Warranty Void counter?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
You hashed every file in /system and subdirectories prior to using vroot, then checked that no new files and no altered files were found afterwards?. - Yes I did - It does add new files (obviously) but does not alter any pre-existing files. It adds the SU binaries to a few places, the superuser app, and the daemon.

Can you also verify that rooting did not trip the Knox Warranty Void counter? - It did not - It does, however; show "custom". Ive been thinking about putting safe strap on it, but haven't had time yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Merdinh:
Hello im sorry, its just the root of your storage on the phone and not the actual root of the system. Just connect your phone to your computer and transfer the files over to phone and not sdcard.

Also with titanium backup you can just completely delete the knox apps you wont really need those later on.

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No problem, glad it worked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TemporalShadows:
I meant stealing information like credit card numbers, etc.

That's excellent! I was actually hoping to do that, saves me the trouble. What daemon are you referring to though, I thought it would only be su + SuperUser app?

Edit: Somehow I initially missed the page of this thread where you spoke of your earlier tests (my bad), thanks for doing all of that analysis. I noticed you mentioned the daemon there too, but not an idea as to what it does. Any idea?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cromler:
Galaxy S4 i545 VRUEMJ7 doesn't take code like *#06#

Galaxy S4 SCH-I545 VRUEMJ7 doesn't except codes like *#06#. Instead of showing the IMEI it's just showing it as a text. Could anyone help to fix it. The phone is build in China. Thanks a lot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ch.ch1:
Still no root yet?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
+1

I know it is still technically up in the air but I decided to go ahead and pull the trigger and Googled VRoot.

Found a link and wondered if it was the real deal or not..

Especially when the poster has this at the end of his post:

"then click on Root during root phone will be restart

note:after root superuser will be display in English language not in chines

more shocking news on the way"

:eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] antwong45157:
safestrap doesn't work yet on 4.3 as far as i know, right?. hashcode has it working on the note 3 so I'm sure its only amount of time.

can't wait for hyperdrive 4.3 rom
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Just out of curiosity, is anyone still actively working on a "safe" root method?

If so, I'll just wait.

Everything will probably change if 4.4 comes out for the S4 anyway.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
Basically, think of a deamon, as somewhat of a service. Thats something pretty popular in 4.3. Its not that weird. In fact, SuperSU seems to run as a daemon in 4.3 as well.

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What on earth are you talking about?

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This is as safe as its going to get.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Well it's not safe if we can't get a good link to the Vroot file. I'm not sure I can trust the one I found.

So should we just PM each other the link then?

If so could someone send it to me?

I haven't decided yet if I'll do it right now or not but would like to know where to get it.

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tricorder12:
Agreed... Please send the best we got my way, especially if we are sure no one is going after root on 4.3 s4 now. --MW

Edit - lol my first post after almost three years after joining. Hi guys!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tukasz:
Anyone can PM with link? I would like to try vRoot, because i want to delete Verizon apps from phone. Because i live in europe :<
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jhogan11:
search for rageroms
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
I sent all three of you the VRoot that I used and have tested.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ch.ch1:
[/COLOR]

What on earth are you talking about?

Is there a root for 4.3/MJ7 Build? Not Vroot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
I would really appreciate a link too ?? My Norton goes nuts when I go near it anywhere...:eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rslu2:
The names the same???

Complete noob here - been lurking since I jumped from ME7 to MI. Found this site to be a great source of info. I did root MJ7 using vroot based on discussion here. Is there any reason to believe the vroot program is based on this?

Off Github site: What is vroot?

Have you ever wished you had clean Linux environments of the different versions of your Debian or Ubuntu distribution that you can create quickly and then blow it away just as easily without having to resort to building a virtual machine? A chroot is the way to go! vroot is a set of scripts that helps you conveniently create, manage and use a chroot.

This project was inspired by the yroot utility at Yahoo, so you (former) Yahoos may find this familiar

Just checking.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TemporalShadows:
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I know what a daemon is, I just didn't realize that SuperSU behaves as one. I was thinking that the daemon you mentioned might be a process lurking in the background doing who-knows-what.

What matters in terms of takeaway, though, seems to be: remove the files vroot adds and install known-good su/SuperSU binaries and you're golden (at least on the phone side).

Would you mind sharing a full list of those files it adds, just for peace of mind? I plan on doing this to my phone and want to be sure I nuke all of them and I'm not sure if the previous posts regarding removal included everything.

Thanks again for doing all this work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] super_f:
I would be very thankfull for a link as well!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] spc_hicks09:
Mod Edit: links to vRoot or Kingo are currently not allowed on XDA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
VRoot is root for 4.3 MJ7... If you're asking if there is anything but VRoot, then no, there is not.

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Mod Edit: links to vRoot or Kingo are currently not allowed on XDA. .

Glad to see someone thats not afraid to post it...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tukasz:
Thank you again who sent me a link ! It works perfectly. Now I am happy :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
ewww...now I feel all dirty....and rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tada10:
Norton goes nuts at everything. Try Nod32.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Menardo:
For everyone that has used vroot, has anyone had anything "suspicious" happen with any of their personal info?! credit cards, etc , etc?! I personally haven't but just wanted everyone else's input...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] spc_hicks09:
Nada
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
everything seems good so far had some trouble and had to run vroot a couple times but all seems normal now I hope chinese hackers arent stealing my life !:angel:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
That's completely unrelated.

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Thanks, that's good info. I f we don't see a better root soon I may have to try vroot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] charliepan69:
Hey All.... I have been vrooted for about a week now, I removed the Chinese superuser right away, and have SuperSu installed. I wasn't that worried because I don't do any kind of banking on my phone, and my feeling about the IMEI farming possibility is that if they are doing something like that, it's so they can use legit IMEIs on counterfeit production or something like that. The only people who could potentially get burned would be those buying counterfeit handsets.

But today I did notice some suspicious behavior.. could be nothing... every once in a while I will use chrome to log into my bank website to check balance. When I attempted that today, I got a Chrome "malware ahead" msg. saying the certificate could not be validated and someone could be trying to log my info. I didn't proceed. Is it possible they inserted something in the browsers? maybe messed with the hosts file or something?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] keith843:
Ive been having the certificate error since i was on ME7, just put a lock on your phone amd it will ask you if you want to install the certs, i had to do that for 3 diff sites
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Probably the same thing required by foxfi is my guess.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] keith843:
I will say this tho. When im not rooted, my phone reboots several times per day since ive been on mj7. After i rooted it with vroot, never reboots.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
My stock MJ7 has NEVER rebooted without me causing it.

Howver, this is completely inconsistent with the prior assertions that NOTHING is changed on your phone other than the superuser program.

If vroot only adds superuser and su/daemonsu, then it won't change whatever caused your phone to periodically reboot.

If vroot DID fix your flaky phone, then it's changing other stuff to keep it up so you can join the botnet or whatever else vroot does. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Lol.

Did you perhaps have a root required app installed from before you updated and now that your rooted it "fixed"the problem. . Who knows.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Thanks for everything!

Hey every1!

Thx for all of the good information, I think Im ready to try it on mine. Can sum1 plz send me the root tool that I need?

Thx!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] J-Rock28:
There is a link to the root method and files on the previous page, post #202. Good luck!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] LilTechPrincess:
Here we go...

Ill send a link shortly
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] super_f:
Would it be usefull to run some kind of antivirus (AVG Mobile, Norton, Avast etc) to look up for any malware after the vroot just to be sure that nothing comes up?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
It is truly the "end of days" coming when we have to direct off-site here at XDA like a big secret in order to root our phones. :laugh::cyclops:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] super_f:
I suppose that as soon as this method is verified from some reliable devs then it will become public to everyone!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Hey folks,

Looks like we finally have a response from Kingoroot's support team and you guys will probably be very surprised and pleased with the responce. :good:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2522602
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Mod Edit: links to vRoot or Kingo are currently not allowed on XDA. .

When downloading the link (chrome) on my pc, it is suspected as malicious lol. I really am not scared of ruining my phone because I have zero deductible insurance, but I am worried about personal info.

Is it possible for me to get a Kingo link then? I've got the vroot method right here in front of me thanks to another link posted, but if you feel that Kingo is a bit more safe, then I definitely would not mind trying that way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] McDaddyTree:
It also seems they've updated their rooting software...has anyone checked to see if it's approved since it's update? I'd like to use this method as it doesn't trip Knox and I'd like to stay away from that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] spc_hicks09:
Well that's a low blow.....

I might not be on the same level as some more popular devs but you do have a dev, right here, saying it's fine. Also, it is public. This method (vroot) has been verified by several people now.

It alters NO preexisting files.

It contains NO extra apks that it installs.

It contains NO viruses.

Confirmed by multiple people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Hey! I trusted you! Based on what you and droidhaxxor said I rooted mine and have been totally happy. It seems like some people worry 2 much.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] reybie:
It looks like I'll be waiting for a while. I just can't bring myself to use vroot, One day it might wake up and turn into a zombie S4 :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
I also used vroot successfully so thank you for testing this and making sure it doesnt alter anything on your phone or pc:laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
The only problem I'm having is the lack of the root_de_la_vega folder on my device storage. It's just not there. I'm confirmed as having root access by root checker, but I don't want the chinese superuser.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
You need to put it there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
make sure you put the individual files from root de la vega in the root of your internal memory not the whole folder or on your sd card:o
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwendt79:
You have to download the root_de_la_vega folder and put it on you internal memory card yourself
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Okay, the problems I'm having (using the rageroms link posted) is that it won't let me remount.

When I type mount -o rw,remount /system it says "mount: Permission denied

What do? Sorry for the novice level here, I'm what you would call a casual modder :/

Oh nevermind! I didn't realize you had to gain superuser access with terminal emulator! Everything is fine, SuperSU is on my app drawer, and I'm attempting a binary update now! I'm jumping for joy!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
i had the same issue I just had to rerun the vroot program a couple times until I had su# in terminal emulator:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Did you have any issues updating the binary for SuperSU? My installation fails every time with the chinese super user frozen and defrosted. Make sure not to reboot when the chinese superuser is frozen haha. I lost root privileges that way and had to use vroot again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Root

Thats because root_de_la_vega isnt part of the Chinese tool. Its something u do seperate of the root. I found a link to it somewhere earlier in this thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Well, I got everything working, SuperSU is in my app drawer, but when I try to update the binary on SuperSU, it fails every time. Did you have any problems like this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Defrosted? Do not do that. Keep it frozen

*edit this is not correct. see my post further down

Freezing the chinese SU is not part of the instructions at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
I did not. Sowwy! :( It worked the first time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Just follow this exactly and you will be good to go.

I actually don't see that you freeze the Chinese SU at all. *edit It does on line 6 say to freeze it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Do you think that the DL link not having a folder named root_de_la_vega could have anything to do with it?

The zip just came with root_de_la_vega.sh and a folder named root_files. I did everything as it said in the terminal emulator. The chinese superuser is frozen. Still can't update. I'm going to try to do the process over again but if not I don't even know what I'm gonna do.

Just saw that. When I rebooted, the correct SuperSU logo was at the top of the permission request! Does that mean I'm successfully rooted with SuperSU?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
See the post above yours.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] devanryan14:
worked for me! and its my first time rooting ever and i have a question. i downloaded supersu and when i open it it asks me to update the binary. I then click continue and then click normal. After it finishes it says "installation failed! please reboot and try again". i've done this numerous times and still it wont work!!!!!!!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rslu2:
Didi you read all of step 6???
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Ah good catch. thanks I forgot about that.

Now SynysterX do NOT unfreeze it next time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
I followed your procedure, and it worked, to my knowledge. When I tried to use TB on a reboot, the right SuperSU logo was at the top of the permission request. Does that mean I'm using the correct SuperSU?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
Should be. Did it update the binaries when you launch it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SynysterX:
Well, it didn't prompt me to. I could use the full app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] atharwaqas:
22 Pages Last Night...

So last night i went through all the 22 pages of this Thread and finally decided to give VROOT a try this morning. Did it with all the instructions as posted in this Thread. Amazing the process of rooting went in pretty smooth and without any issue.

Even updated the Super User as well and all worked fine from there. :cowboy:

The only thing I have got out from all of this argument b.w the two sides is the method being sketchy or not. Well if you think its sketchy leave it, but if you have the guts give it a try, for so many people it worked.

But there is another side to all of this and that is reputation and a being monopolistic. See guys there are just tons of people out there who are developing these root methods. XDA has been the longest runner of bring out these methods and has build a trustworthy name for itself. But there will be other people rising as well. They might not be too known or something, but it really doesnt mean they can only make shady tools.

All i am saying here is to see the others with an open mind. Finally its all up to you to try it or not, its your choice.

Hopefully this argument can now end and someone can reverse engineer the vroot and build a more reliable product in future, since the KitKat is just around the corner.

Cheers, and thanks a lot to all who took the leap of faith and put up all those methods out there. You guys are crazy and in very amazing way.. kudos...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aapje1299:
Still not working. Once rebooted there is no SU visible in the app drawer, and whenever I request SU rights it just waits forever and nothing happens. Like the new superuser app is also frozen or something.

But if this app has the same name should it not be automatically frozen? And since the new supersu did not grant permission to titanium backup yet you can never run it ???

I will try with supersu instead.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
In step 8 and 9 the old SU app is removed.

In step 11 I believe the new SU is installed provide you copied the file and folder into your Phone directory and NOT into your Card directory.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tada10:
I have been using Vroot for 3 weeks now and my bank is still untouched leaving my 2 dollars untouched.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aapje1299:
SuperSu ain't working either. Dump of my shell:

And yes I did freeze superuser within titanium backup. My phones boots and superuser is gone. And when I try to get superuser rights this happens:

And it hangs forever.

What the heck is going on? I can regain root with vRoot everytime that's not an issue. There is a su present:

But there is no dialog screen anywhere to confirm root righs for any app whatsoever.

Edit: Just tried de-freezing superuser just before reboot. But that results in a not responding chinese superuser the next reboot.

Ofcourse the normal SU doesn't work either. Tried running the su binary updater with freezing the chinese superuser.

What on earth am I missing here?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
In my system I still show superuser frozen and I have SuperSU in my app drawer that is taking care of all of my root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aapje1299:
No such luck here I'm afraid. SuperSU is nowhere to be found.

Edit: It works now :highfive:

I tried manually installing supersu from the play store, and in the play store it said disabled. So I enabled it and ran the shell commands. And now it works! Not sure how supersu got disabled, I didn't even know you could disable apps in the play store :confused:

Thanks everyone!

Btw: can you uninstall the chinese superuser completly afterwards or should I keep it frozen till the end of time? :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwhistler:
Two dollars? Um...maybe that's why your account remains untouched. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tydye:
cd/mnt/sdcard/: not found

Why doesn't my Terminal Emulator not find cd/mnt/sdcard/: ?

Could someone show me what the terminal's responses should be after each command is entered? (Obviously, the instructions do a very poor job elaborating each step)

My status on this root method is that I think everything went fine. (except for the terminal emulator command cd/mnt/sdcard/) and I think i had the root_de_la_vega.sh file do its thing, but the SuperSU binaries won't update.

BTW this is my first post! Hello Everyone!

EDIT: Also, where SPECIFICALLY does the de la vega files go? can someone say the specific directory just so I am sure. Clarity is always appreciated when rooting.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] atharwaqas:
Space

You are not putting in a space after cd ... this is what it looks from the command you have put up here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Lawless:
You need a space between the cd and the /

ninja'd
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tydye:
Thanks Atharwaqas and -Lawless!

My bad on that. They terminal reads that command just fine now.

However, now when I run the root_de_la_vega.sh script, I get a bunch of text with pretty much every line saying "directory not found" at the end of it. is the script supposed to do this? what am I supposed to see when this script runs successfully?

SuperSU is still not updating....