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[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
i have an iphone 5 and the screen is phenomenal, im just more of an android guy, this issue is not present on my htc one and it has a beautiful display, how can someone just conform to a ****ty display, (blows my mind)

edit: "is that how you judge people"??? I don't quite get your question bud, how is that relevant..
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
well said bro.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
The screen is gorgeous on the N5. So many people are just looking from something to complain about. It is a 5" screen and for how most of us will be viewing it, it is looks freakin great.

Unless you are throwing a naked picture of a chick on your phone and laying it flat down next to you in bed and want to view her from a side angle why else would you care how it looks at an angle like that?

Top of the line LED TV's that are thousands of dollars have the same off viewing angle issues and people get over it so I don't see what the issue is with the N5 screen for $400.

Damn, I just turned my phone face down and I couldn't even see the screen! That's it, it's going back.
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
lol i get your point, but i show videos to friends and family daily, plus ive never seen a high end led tv with that kind of viewing angle, my led surely doesnt have that issue.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
It is the most known thing about LED technology and even the new OLED technology has this issue. It is not as noticeable in stores but when you get it home it is pretty extreme. Viewing angles are one of the major talked about things when deciding to purchase a plasma or LED TV. Plasma's offer wide viewing angles while LED do not. This is a technology fact and not just my opinion by the way.
[Nexus 5 General] fineazbro:
Nice viewing angle , I mean seriously you people need to stop with that viewing angle sh**, that's not helping google...349 for unlocked top of the line hardware and yall still complaining..sheezus
[Nexus 5 General] FILLY86:
A Technology fact? Well.. my friends htc one for example doesnt suffer from this issue and its an IPS too! Im afraid we just get what we paid for. And since the Display is probably the most expensive part of a phone: Cheap price, cheap display...
[Nexus 5 General] Simba501:
Viewing angles are much more relevant for televisions.

I did not even notice that my HTC One has good viewing angles until literally yesterday (when reading about the N5). It's just not a practical issue on a mobile device.
[Nexus 5 General] oyeeeeeeee:
Oh Man I Have Nexus 4 And Its Screen Also Has Same Issue I Was Going To Get Nexus 5 But Not Now Sorry Google ....
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Yup, totally agree but wanted to stress the fact that price doesn't necassarily mean anything. I have a Samsung $2,700 USD TV that washes out from the side.

I am also wondering if they used different panels in the N5 because my screen looks great and for any way I can think of viewing it, it does not wash out.

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You really should apologize to yourself and not Google because the N5 screen is in another class then the N4.
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
arceeIpe BAILEY

Based on nexus 5 kernel sources there are 2different types of displays,one from LG and the other from JapanDisplay similar to Xperia Z and Z1
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I would not be surprised if this was true because like I said, my screen looks great from all angles and next to the HTC One my wife owns I no way feel like she has an inferior screen.
[Nexus 5 General] shadowcore:
Ah yes, the eternal IPS, LED,TFT,TN, OLED talk.

LED refers to the backlight, IPS for image visualization. IPS, just like TN, is a technology for LCD,LED panels.

TVs use both TN and IPS, but under different names, such as MVA,ASV and so on.

IPS is better than TN because of the viewing angles and deeper blacks. It deeply boggles me, what type of panel they used to produce bad viewing angles as they are the strength of IPS panels. See, sony uses a TN panel for its Xperia Z series, except the ultra. THeir colors, viewing angles and so on suck.

And to make it clear for you, viewing angles on a TV do NOT compare to that of a phone. A TV does not compare to a phone. MVA,ASV,AH-IPS,H-IPS and so on are all IPS tech, but they all have their details, which companies keep secret.

To compare a TV with a phone, is comparing a bike with a car.

For the N5, they use HD-IPS, LGs propietary IPS technology. Funny thing is, I have an LG phone that has "HD"IPS and do not have bad viewing angles. And as for the viewing angles argument in phones. It depends, You obviously cant hold your phone 90 perpendicular to your eyes, and that little difference will make they display look worse in TN displays.

I dont think viewing from the side is an issue. Its not bad and nobody uses the phone from the side as seen in the videos.
[Nexus 5 General] matthewr87:
Which version of the phone do you have?
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
How can you tell?
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
nsidiys oscillatory

Just try for a sec shifting it diagonally.

Nexus 4 had the same problem
[Nexus 5 General] shadowcore:
Green tint? Or whites turning black and blacks turning white? If its the former, its an ips display and vice versa.
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
More of the yellowish,white side.It definitely is an ips display,but i'm not sure if they use some type low quality glue between the glass and lcd or it is their cheapest display they can put on
[Nexus 5 General] ryude:
If they used a low quality fusing technique, this can introduce poor viewing angles/colors/etc.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I am not seeing any issues. My screen looks really good. Maybe the room lighting and screen brightness is also playing a role in it?
[Nexus 5 General] matthewr87:
Sorry I mean the colour and/or size. I was just thinking that they put one type of panel in one "type" of N5. Maybe not.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Oh, I have the blk 32gb.
[Nexus 5 General] Jockson:
Just a small correction. MVA and ASV are not IPS tech. They're *VA tech, similar to PVA, S-PVA etc which have different strengths and weaknesses compared to IPS.

Viewing angles are more important than many people think IMO. You don't always have the phone right in front of you. When the phone is on my desk and I receive a notification, it is always at an angle. It's still usable, sure, but it looks ugly and feels cheap. More importantly, bad viewing angles can cause a pseudo-3D effect if your eyes are close enough to the screen. The Nexus 5 screen doesn't look anywhere near as bad as say Sony XZ, but still it has to be said the viewing angles are not great.
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
I dont have yet the nexus 5,but i had the nexus 4.and based on my experience with it isnt that frustrating but knowing it is there it bothers sometime
[Nexus 5 General] Jiyeon90:
Do you have the Z/Z1 and the Nexus 5?

Could you post any comparison pics on the screen? I'm really curious to see how they stand against each other
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Okay, so when I put a black screen on my phone and held the phone at eye level, then angled it to view from the corner the black washed out.

Why the heck will I ever need to view my phone at such an extreme angle? In the past 15 years I have been using mobile phones I cannot recall once when I was is a situation that i needed to view it like that.

Someone please help me out here. I need to know if I should return my N5 and get something else that has better eye level corner viewing angles.

Folks let's get real. I am no fanboy and if something stinks I will be the first to say it but this is the furthest thing from an issue. There is absolutley nothing worng with this screen unless there are different versions out there and I just have the better one. Also screen brightness might play a role in this. I have it set to auto.
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
Nothing to worry about,just to know if it has this issue.The panel is big,bright,beautiful everything you want to have in a smartphone display,not something like an amoled that after a year of use it washes out
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
No viewing angle problems with mine.
[Nexus 5 General] Cinner:
Could anybody with good viewing angles please post pictures so those of us with bad viewing angles can see what a good display is supposed to look like? My viewing angles are exactly the same as the OP, from a diagonal point of view the screen turns white. I know it's not the end of the world to have poor viewing angles, but if I can trade my N5 for an N5 with a clearly superior screen, why not?
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
Paranoidandroid is gonna fix that so not a worry at all.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
No one is going to post a picture of their phone at eye level with it angled like that because we do not care what the screen looks like at that angle.

There is no situation where you would be using the phone like that. Would you like a picture of the screen in a situation where you would actually be using it?
[Nexus 5 General] Ricz100:
I have a black 32gb.

I literally have no problem with viewing angles, doesnt fade out or anything.
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
I have a solution for viewing angles. Well two to be exact: galaxy round and lg flex. ;)
[Nexus 5 General] DrYnternet:
I second that. For me the whole discussion is over^^
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
Exactly. Whoever i see video reviews that talk about viewing angles I just ask why you would care or even look at your phone like that.
[Nexus 5 General] DroidIt!:
Ok, first off in the video you can clearly see a reflection on a bright light source in the screen. Must be a VERY bright light source as at a couple angles there not very far into the video you can almost see the bulb itself reflected on the screen. Secondly the paint on the wall is a bright color which will further reflect that bright light source. To me this would almost be akin to looking at your phone on a bright sunny day. Anybody EVER had a smartphone that they didn't have trouble seeing the screen at some point while out on a bright sunny day? Thirdly, what was the screen brightness set at exactly in this well lit environment? Too many questions and not enough answers.
[Nexus 5 General] erniev:
Yes, but did you see the second video in the thread? The one with the oppo find 5 versus the Nexus 5? they're side by side and you can definitely tell that one screen is better than the other
[Nexus 5 General] nyyankees3511:
one thing we need to find out is if there actually is two different manufacturers making the screens as someone earlier suggested. I highly doubt it but if there are then it would explain why some say they have fine viewing angles etc.
[Nexus 5 General] ryude:
Just compared my Xperia Z to my Nexus 5. It's not even a comparison, the Nexus 5 has far better viewing angles. This isn't amoled so don't expect 180 degree viewing angles.
[Nexus 5 General] DroidIt!:
Yes but the oppo was used in a pitch black room, that big of an environmental difference makes this a useless comparison. Take your nexus 5 and in the brightest room of your house (or if it's sunny outside) turn your screen up to full brightness and make a video. Keep it at the same screen brightness and close yourself in a closet and make a video. You'll probably get pretty close to the same results as the two videos as above with the same phone filmed 5 minutes apart. :)
[Nexus 5 General] erniev:
I guess we're just not understanding each other. Both phones were in the same dark room together, at the same time. And I'm assuming they had the same brightness. The point is that, in this case, HIS nexus 5 had far worse viewing angles than his oppo find 5. Either way I'm getting the nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] matthewr87:
How do the viewing angles look when viewing the following website:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

FYI I test all my displays using the different modules on that site.

White balance:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php

Black level:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php
[Nexus 5 General] ChrisM75:
If it doesn't bother you, it doesn't, but it does bother some people. The videos here don't actually do the effect justice, you don't have to be that far off axis to see it, indeed I find myself having to adjust my grip so that I cant see it. Its so pronounced that if the phone is close to you the entire screen cannot be all at the right angle so the edges will start to fade. In order for the whole screen to be 'perfect' the phone needs to be about 18 inches away from your face.Thats not really acceptable.

I will say the effect isnt so noticeable in sunlight, and the screen is actually quite good in strong light. Part of the problem is that the backlight is badly calibrated and too strong in low light, the blacks and colours also need a calibrating much better than they are.

The claim you dont use your phone off axis is bogus, you do at times without realising. Dont tell people to get over it, some people find it very annoying. Dont say expensive LED TVs do it, because I hate them for that very reason, so I buy plasmas.
[Nexus 5 General] textus:
Dudes, aren't you gonna ask this guy or find out what he is saying? It seems that the problem is not with viewing at 180 degrees or some wierd angle. Just merely diagonal viewing. And we all have different values placed on diagonal viewing; some can't care less while others find it important.

The question now is after reading this entire thread there is at least more than a handful of people who claim good viewing angles and while some might disagree, it is likely the case that these ppl have screens that do not wash out diagonally since it would otherwise be pretty darn obvious (try looking at your phone right now from where it is without lifting it up, its likely to be diagonal, at least my is)

So not withstanding any denials of these reports, can we get some facts now other than the generic overview theories on IPS? Compare one N5 screen to another and lets start figuring this out, or at least concretely debunk any myths. If you are not really into viewing angles or even interested in having a phone without an inferior screen (if it is true that N5 screens do differ), then probably this thread is not for you cause you shouldn't even care about the title in the first place.

As a start, I suggest anyone reporting their phone screen conditions state where it is bought from and if you have information to what kernel it is.
[Nexus 5 General] ChrisM75:
No its not, just because you dont know bad when you see it it doesnt mean its not. Even without the viewing angle issues the colours are off and the blacks are poor. In daylight its not that noticeable, but in indoor light and in low light its obvious.
[Nexus 5 General] matthewr87:
How does the N5 screen compare to other phones using the links I posted above? That should allow us to make a more educated comparison.
[Nexus 5 General] kdotent:
i was talking about this viewing angle

it is a photo taken by xda user Cinner
[Nexus 5 General] King Shady:
wow that does not look normal lol
[Nexus 5 General] J_Dutch:
Seriously I received my nexus today and all of this talk about the screen and viewing angles... I don't get it at all! Really all the negative people must have a faulty device or something!

[MENTION=600147]THE[/MENTION] people that are waiting for the device to arrive... Don't let yourself being fooled by this. Only the negative sh*t will come to a forum. I am one very happy user! Coming from a one x, the best 720p screen period.
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
Bro it blows my mind how some people are completely ok with that. ive seen Chinese phones with better viewing angles.
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
People are OK with it because that's not how you use a phone. The only time you'll see the phone like that is if your going out of the way to get it to look like that.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Here is a video I just made for you crazies. lol

HTC One and Nexus 5. What this shows is that the N5 looks great at any possible angle you would actually use the device. The only time it really washes out is at the corner at eye level which you can't even see the screen anyway so who cares!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suV8zuPjpho
[Nexus 5 General] miHah:
last time i've seen display like that was on HTC Desire HD.

Coming from HTC One, HTC One and iPhone 5s I can tell you that N5 has great viewing angles.

32gb black here

What if this viewing angle problem only occurs at 16gig model?
[Nexus 5 General] Funkym0nkey:
That white tinge happening from corner view is common to all LG phones. That is how LG IPS mobile displays have been for past 2 years. Even with G2. this holds true for all of them. And it is known fact.

Do your research beforehand. It is a weakness. A small one. Nowhere near as bad as xperia z and z1.

From my Optimus G Pro, In your face!
[Nexus 5 General] shortbushemi:
I honestly can't tell a difference. Happy as hell with this phone so far
[Nexus 5 General] bgaccord:
My viewing angle is great
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
my phone just arrived, cant wait to get home and unbox it, hoping my screen is bad.
[Nexus 5 General] King Shady:
Well it appears this viewing angle problem is only on some of the Nexi. It looked pretty severe in that one photo last page. I'm sick of Amoled's colors and I can't wait to return to LCD
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
im finding it hard to see this as an upgrade from the htc one... ill be home in a few hours to do some testing.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
No, it's not. A rom can't do anything for an issue that is inherently hardware-based. Custom roms are nice but they can't solve every problem.
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
The kernel I meant.
[Nexus 5 General] xXghostXx313:
There is nothing wrong with the screen whatsoever. It gorgeous in all angles
[Nexus 5 General] King Shady:
the one and the g2 are neck and neck for best screens imo, hopefully the nexus 5 is around that quality
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
A kernel can't improve your viewing angles any more than it can give you more ram. Kernels can fix color balance issues but they can do precisely squat for viewing angles.
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
It did for the nexus 4.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
My wife has the One and I got the 5. Both screens look great. It would not be the deciding factor of which I would choose. It would not even play into the equation.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
You're confusing color balance/saturation with viewing angles. Color balance and saturation can be calibrated with software to an extent. Viewing angles are an inherent physical property of the display. You can't tweak viewing angles with software any more than you can turn a 720p display into a 1080p display with software.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
That is just your opinion.

/sarcasm
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
I believe that improving the colors of the display also improves the viewing angles since the colors are less washed out with the improvement.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
This is clearly becoming an "agree to disagree" situation :)
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
Its not a big deal, we're discussing as far as im concerned.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I think you are both wrong.
[Nexus 5 General] King Shady:
glad to hear! thanks for the feedback!
[Nexus 5 General] J.Guido85:
The screen is fine, you people always have find something to complain about. I've own the S4, HTC one and I have a Note 3 as my work phone and it may not be as good as the Those remember there Amoled, they are meant to look over saturated. I like the natural look of the N5.

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Agreed
[Nexus 5 General] pdubzzle:
A little off subject, but I'm eating some sweet potato waffle chip, and they are delicious!!!
[Nexus 5 General] Phazmos:
Mmmmm sweet tater waffle chips

And nothing wrong with the screen on my 5. It is gorgeous, from all angles. Also like how the back of the phone is a smidge larger than the front. Makes for a comfortable grip. All in all, such a deal.
[Nexus 5 General] Cinner:
You mean your screen looks exactly like the one in this video? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47162525&postcount=61
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
You're right, people complaining for something the big bother LG G2's display suffers from too. It only happens in diagonal, come on people.

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[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
gotta love the music haha so dramatic, the screen is fine aslong as you look straight at it lol now the speakers are the ****tiest thing in the world.
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
Music fits fine whilst showing those washed out viewing angles lol. Agreed, the speaker (there's just one, the other side is a mic) is the weakest point the this overall fantastic phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
HTC One is not amoled, its Super LCD 3
[Nexus 5 General] HRodMusic:
im getting used to the bad angles, just matter of adjusting when you come from an htc one, i just wish it had a better speaker, i mean even the moto x out shines it. =(
[Nexus 5 General] mobilehavoc:
Who are these people that put have to have 180 degrees viewing angles? Aliens? Mine is perfect but I'm a human and I only need about 20 degrees off center in normal use. If I can't see it when its flat that's great because I would never do that in the first place. Grow up people.
[Nexus 5 General] Phazmos:
Exactly. One must question the common sense in looking at a display practically on edge. Maybe they just don't know that you're supposed to look at a display straight on. They are obviously holding it wrong.
[Nexus 5 General] grudas:
those who say that they have perfect viewing angles.. PLEASE post pictures :) and those who say it doesn't matter well.. news to you not everyone uses the phone the same way you do! :)
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
You can replace the picture of the N5 with the LG G2 and the results would be the same... If you care about it, then buy an amoled display, period.
[Nexus 5 General] Dungeon47:
This is exactly my experience and it's really only noticeable in the dark.
[Nexus 5 General] ppcpirate:
comparing the nexus 5 display to the evo lte, the blacks are not as good on the nexus 5 and off angle viewing washes out the display pretty quickly especially when viewing dark scenes. off angle viewing would typically comes into play when you leave the phone on the desk and want a quick glance at it so it is somewhat important. then again, you can look at this a privacy filter.:p
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
It is not, that you "need" this flat angels BUT, yesterday and also today at work, the phone is laying down on the table left next to me. In this possition I am looking exactly from corners display with an flat angle on it and I see the extreme bright colors. This is the only case when it annoys me. Also when you are showing a photo or video to some people you will notice the bad angles (no body will look exactly from the side, everybody, especially when standing on the feet, will look from left/right upper corner because they are standing left/right next to you so they will have exactly the poor viewing angles)

I agree that it is not noticable in "normal" usage BUT you will notice it in many special situations (during a normal week). I can live with that but the HTC ONE display is top notch compared to the N5, IMO the only diplay that can compete with AMOLED (before I used a galaxy nexus with custom calibrated screen and I loved it)
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
This picture is not even represented correctly because it shows the device face down and you looking from above. If you look about the device and spin it 360 degress it will look axactly the same at every angle.

What the picture should look like is the device laying flat on a table with you at eye level where you could barely see the screen anyway, then showing the good and bad spots. I would have done a mock up of the correct picture but then people might laugh at me and say who the heck would ever look at their phone like that. lol