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[Nexus 5 General] NaterTots:
I activated my 32gb N5 today with the Sim sprint overnighted to me. Did it from home. No big deal. To punch the imei in on their website I just left the last digit off. Worked fine.

Plus no activation fee. :)
[Nexus 5 General] RedWingsFan:
Did you have to use Sprint Chat or were you able to activate on your own online?
[Nexus 5 General] cephaus:
Still waiting for my nexus 5 to be shipped by sprint
[Nexus 5 General] NaterTots:
I started online, and after it accepted the imei and the sim card number, it told me to chat with a rep or go to a store. Instead I called sprint and did it with their automated service over the phone. No problems.
[Nexus 5 General] RedWingsFan:
So when I get the SIM, do I install it before activating? Or leave it out of the phone?
[Nexus 5 General] NaterTots:
I put it in. Turned on the phone and after the phone call I restarted it so it would provision on it's own. I think I restarted it twice. Then for fun I updated profile and prl in mobile networks. Been working great all afternoon. It took about 5 minutes for it to have a solid connection and keep it.
[Nexus 5 General] Gonik:
So, the past few days there has been quite a fuss on the internet about the latest “Pure Android” phone by Google, LG’s Nexus 5.

Well, is it? I’ll put it simpler;

Are you sure that the Nexus devices are, indeed, pure Android?

By “pure Android”, we mean AOSP. And by AOSP we mean the Open Source Project that you can learn more from here.

It’s quite a read. But I’ll simplify it for you. If you download the Android SDK, inside you’ll find the Eclipse IDE, a tool targeted to Android developers. From inside the IDE, you can initialize an Android Virtual Device running truly pure Android.

So in our case, I fired up the AVD and booted to a stock 4.4 environment. Let’s observe closely the menu and compare it side by side with the one from Nexus 5.

See the differences? Oh look...

there is the AOSP browser which Google replaced with Chrome in their Nexus series.

Also you can find the Messaging app, which was replaced by Hangouts,

AOSP Calendar, was replaced by Google’s Calendar,

Music which was replaced by Google Play Music,

Google Search, replaced the Search, and

…last but not least, the Gallery. The gallery app in Nexus is miles, nay tens of miles away from the Gallery app in AOSP Android.

Also, bundled with Nexus 5 you’ll find;

Google Earth

Google Maps

Google+

Google Drive

Google Play Movies/Books/Magazines

Wallet

QuickOffice

YouTube

Also, introduced with the 4.4 version there is also a brand new and different launcher called Google Search launcher which is always “OK Google”-hearing you.

AOSP 4.4 launcher vs. Nexus 5 Google Search launcher

Starting to get the hint? It’s close to, but nowhere near at, the bundled software the other manufacturers are putting into their phones. Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony you-name-them. All of them provide custom Android experiences, with almost the same way.

The too bundle custom launchers (which off course are not similar to the classic Android Launcher), custom SMS app, custom Music App, Social-Networking apps, Custom Camera/Gallery etc.

Just do a quick search online (and then some). You’ll find hundreds articles referring to the Nexus devices as “Pure Android experience”.

The correct term is that they [the Nexus devices] are “Pure Google experience” and in my humble opinion there should an option to be able to use the stock apps, like Browser and Music which are way more resource-friendly compared to their Google equivalents.
[Nexus 5 General] ethantarheels123:
is it possible for you to pull the browser apk from true aosp? It would be my guess that it would be far better in performance over chrome.
[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
Google is taking back Android!

Good for them....
[Nexus 5 General] MaxCarnage:
The pure Google experience then. That's what I'm after. Love 4.4 so far.
[Nexus 5 General] italia0101:
Seriously ?
[Nexus 5 General] Luxferro:
What you have there is an emulator, which doesn't include Google's proprietary apps. Not everything that comes on a nexus phone is opensourced. It's always been this way.
[Nexus 5 General] MrBelter:
Thing is if you bought any other phone you would get all that plus all their crap as well, like it or not all that Google stuff is now core apps.
[Nexus 5 General] NovaSlim:
Pure Google experience is good enough for me. Only wish they do something about the Camera viewfinder fiasco(16:9 view finder for a 4:3 Camera), either give us a 16:9 Camera or a 4:3 view finder.
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
You forget that Google started the whole Android thing and they are the co founders of AOSP.

Nexus series allows you installing custom system-apps or even roms from the official AOSP builds without any problems or "hacking/jailbreaking".

Google has started this whole "gapps" thing a long time ago and it is normal, they also want to do their business and sell their services. It is free to you to use them.

IMO still the best Android option so far.

I love my galaxy nexus (coming from a HD2 with ICS) and the freedom I have with and tomorrow my N5 will arrive :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] crachel:
Google has had a proprietary branch of Android for as long as I can remember, this is nothing new with the Nexus 5. I can remember building AOSP for the Nexus S and noticing very similar differences you mention here including missing dictionary, etc... Developers have even mentioned submitting patches to AOSP only to have them refused by Google because they had already been applied on the in-house branch

Android has also always had proprietary drivers and other various bits, so there was never a pure "open" Android experience. Many long running 'open' platforms also have closed or proprietary bits
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Could you possibly pull the stock MMS.apk and odex for me? I HATE hangouts.
[Nexus 5 General] Gonik:
Exactly my point...

Can't argue with that... Off course is the best Android option so far.

I am well aware about the proprietary Google Apps... I don't argue with you. I am just commenting on MANY articles/blog posts/reviews online that declare the Nexus series as pure android... Which in my opinion is "pretty close"... but not "pure".
[Nexus 5 General] the1onewolf:
NSS comes to mind.

Android is a commercial product.

AOSP isn't.

Why do you think rom developers have to jump through so many hoops sometimes when they release a custom rom.
[Nexus 5 General] kgptzac:
So I guess only a phone can be called a pure Android experience is to release with nothing installed, with an instruction on how to download and flash AOSP? :p
[Nexus 5 General] fireproofrev:
Not to forget, there is no Play Store in the "pure Android" experience without google and IMO the Play store is a main point for something i call Android experience. :cowboy:
[Nexus 5 General] Ajfink:
...this thread exists? Anyone here knows Google includes proprietary apps as a part of a Nexus device.

Did you know the modems aren't open source? Did you know GOOGLE NOW KNOWS A LOT ABOUT YOU!!!1!??!!1!

Real talk, though, I'm going to install the standard messaging app. Hangouts blows for SMS.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] george241312:
This is how it should be ! Look at what apple did with the notification bar they took it right out of android because of open source. And you can install the original browser with root.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Would you mind posting it here please?
[Nexus 5 General] rg1003:
I think the point is that the Nexus program is a pure Google experience not a pure Android experience and it seems that many of you are happy with that.

For now that is pretty good because most of the Google apps add value over the stock Android apps (although so far I do prefer the stock browser) but how will you feel if ads start popping up in the Gmail app or the phone app when you search for a contact, etc. I hope I am wrong but I really am afraid we are getting close to that.

Also when the carriers bundle apps we did not ask for and cannot remove without rooting we call it bloatware.So why isn't Google Earth, Google Maps, Google+, Google Drive, Google Play Movies/Books/Magazines, Wallet, QuickOffice and YouTube bloatware?

I enjoy the Google experience but I went with the Nexus program becasue I wanted freedom to do what I please with the device I purchased. I also want the availability/unavailability of an OS upgrade to be a technical decision not a marketing decision. The N5/Nexus program still gives me that but now that Android is dominant Google is doing what it can to take it back; and with each OS release Google edges a little closer to looking like the carriers.
[Nexus 5 General] Ajfink:
I will when I get home. You might want to just get TextSecure or 8sms from the Play Store - they're both AOSP-based with some tweaks (TS is all about encrypting your local texts, 8sms is a mix of AOSP-standard, CM specials and extras).

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Thanks man (out of thanks for the day). I'll check those out in the meantime.
[Nexus 5 General] Ajfink:
This is sadly accurate. Google is making more and more core functionality part of their walled garden. I'm not necessarily a fan.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] cas8180:
I think the term "pure" means something different to the general public than it does to developers. There definition of pure simpley means not skinned.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
LOL, what? Are you saying that Apple used the AOSP code for their notification bar in iOS?
[Nexus 5 General] hotleadsingerguy:
Ya...the Nexus isn't "pure AOSP", and it never has been. Nexus devices have always come with the Google Apps bundle, which include all of the things you mentioned (Chrome was recently added...I think 2 years ago).
[Nexus 5 General] george241312:
They did-int use the code but they copied the general function of it.

I remember when apple sued various manufactures just because other phones were rectangular...
[Nexus 5 General] lqrt:
When you compare to Touchwiz/Sense and what not. The nexus is by far a very pure android experience.. :victory:
[Nexus 5 General] HughesNet:
Nexus has always been the pure Google experience not pure "Android" experience. You don't seem to understand the difference between AOSP and googles build our the history of CM OP.
[Nexus 5 General] Old-school:
This article explains it really well:ArsTechnica Basically google is trying to make some money off android by making it closed source. At first I was pretty pissed, but if it means more and more manufacturers basically have to offer the same experience (close to stock) it does not really bother me. I assume developers are getting mad though.
[Nexus 5 General] gee one:
I think the Ars Technica article spells it out pretty clearly- the walls are slowly and quietly being built around the open ecosystem. I can't blame Google- they are just doing what they do. My N5 is schedule to arrive tomorrow. I think I will enjoy the phone, but I'm hoping that Ubuntu will offer something that will set the standard for open source on phones.
[Nexus 5 General] msponsler:
I believe you are missing the point of the Nexus devices. The Nexus device is a developer device. It's a snapshot of Google's rendition of Android from the Android source tree (AOSP)

The beauty of the Nexus line is that you can easily take the AOSP, compile it, and throw it on your device.
[Nexus 5 General] ragnarokx:
Call it what you want. This phone is straight from Google, the way they intended Android to be.
[Nexus 5 General] cutterjohn:
Sorry homer, pure Android is what Google releases. PERIOD. You don't like it, fine, but as far as the OS goes what goes on the nexus devices straight from Google builds is by DE FACTO PURE. You MAY NOT like it, but tough titties, live with cyanogen as they attempt to adapt and will fork farther and farther away now.

ATM I'm completely happy wit the stock "pure" android builds. Cyanogen, et. al. offer me nothing other than nowadays less and less as they're admittedly forced to fork away from the pure experience...

...or IOW I don't know WTF you're trying to do other than maybe yer a RMS acolyte, itard, or even worse the incredibly extremely rare M$ fantard(and yes they seem to have some, not sure why, but...)
[Nexus 5 General] jhawkins002:
Ok, so quick time out folks.

I think the real point here was that the launcher itself now seems to be forked, which is not what many folks are used to seeing - even given the well-established Google/AOSP environment differences.

The launcher has until this point been part of the 'infrastructure' of Android and not a Google-ized proprietary app per-se. Given some of the special sauce thats starting to be fed into the launcher with 4.4, however, this does not surprise me.

Another note; there are many in the tech press that point to indicators in the codebase that the launcher app as we currently think of it is now bound more to the Google search app available through the Play store - and that the new 4.4 launcher may well soon be available through Play to most or all Android denizens.

Just food for thought...
[Nexus 5 General] cutterjohn:
No, it's not. It's some psycho who thinks that OMFG I can't get EXACTLY the Google build, so therefore it's somehow not "pure"?! WTF?! the mofo is insanely deranged as cyanogen != "pure" android, Google == pure Android. Extremist freetards need to get agrip IMNHO.
[Nexus 5 General] Faiz Malkani:
What Pure Android isn't: An Android environment that is 100% source build, without Google's added apps and services

What Pure Android is: The building blocks that make up an OS and are in tune with Google's design, such as buttons, seek bars, etc.

As highlighted above, pure Android doesn't mean you're getting a basic Android build without any modifications or additions. It does not mean that you're getting a build that runs on the emulator. This thread is missing the very point of Pure Android. According to the Design Guidelines, Pure Android is the building blocks of the system. The buttons, color accents, sliders, switches, seek bars, etc. It is the small bits of design that come together in perfect harmony and form a beautiful ecosystem.

This is the difference between Pure Android others. As shown, the "purity" is in the elements

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[Nexus 5 General] Phazmos:
More a question of laziness than craziness.

Takes about 2 minutes to disable all the Google stuff ya don't want. Then you have aosp, or at least pretty darn close.

There it's a difference between what comes off aosp and Google servers, and that's all the Google services integration, which is proprietary code, and a big reason people use android.

All this side, you can always build your own pure aosp rom, or use 1 of the many aosp build that I'm sure will be out. After all, this is a nexus, we can do what we want with it, and easily. As easy as app info/disable. Only takes me 2 minutes to disable most all the Google supplied crud.
[Nexus 5 General] jakdillard:
LMFAO

Wrong Info bud........
[Nexus 5 General] aohus:
i remember in a recent podcast someone on Android Central said 'The Nexus is the Touchwiz we actually like,' which is true.
[Nexus 5 General] kaywalker23:
I'd be quite happy with the google experience.
[Nexus 5 General] finalhit:
Spelling errors courtesy of my phone
[Nexus 5 General] lqrt:
Google making it more close platform is to minimize android fragmentation...
[Nexus 5 General] gee one:
Any one remember the definition of open... it was something like

Google is moving parts of Android and making them closed. It's not necessarily a bad trade, but it's probably a trade that most developers don't want to make. It takes us down the dark path...
[Nexus 5 General] finalhit:
What part of aosp is no longer open But was before?

Spelling errors courtesy of my phone
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
No part of AOSP is no longer open, AOSP is my definition the open parts of Android. But there are plenty of apps developed by Google which used to be entirely open but no longer are. It's a bit sad to see for many of us who found the open nature of Android to be a major selling point.
[Nexus 5 General] lowandbehold:
But that is not necessarily a bad thing. The closed source stuff is still available for free, and most of it is on the Play Store. No one has mentioned a HUGE benefit of going this route. Take for instance the Moto X camera. It sucked hard when the device first shipped (software issues). Instead of waiting for a Carrier update, Google updated it in the Play Store. Little things like that are huge for people that don't have the luxury of owning a Nexus device and receiving timely updates.
[Nexus 5 General] RedBlueGreen:
My view on pure is what Google wants us to see. If they add, remove or change something I still consider it pure because android = Google after all.
[Nexus 5 General] andQlimax:
infact, nexus line is "pure google" NOT "pure android"

:D
[Nexus 5 General] duckied:
For the price of the nexus 5 or nexus 4, Google is trying to give you the whole Google experience. They probably don't make much off the phone. They pretty much trying to sell you their softwares. So when i can I'll try to use Google apps/softwares. But not chrome lol I just don't like it as much yet.
[Nexus 5 General] am84496:
After all, Nexus is a Google phone. :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] GSLEON3:
Google has been pretty good about keeping some of the most popular apps open. Even those that are closed, most of them have huge prtions of their code open either as part of an open api, or as an engine for developers to apply to other apps. Besides, who here is going to use 100% AOSP? Come on, you are at XDA. You ae going to skin something, add apps you prefer over core apps, flash a rom, add Halo, Peek, something.... Nobody is at XDA to use 100% AOSP everything.... A wallpaper, a different ringtonee... You are going to mod or change something...

Personally, I don't care if Google integrates SMS/text into hangouts. Good, that will inspire developers to fill holes, which gives us more options & inspires more creativity. At any rate, this is the FIRST Nexus phone that I will be using as a daily driver. It is the first device that I felt comfortably will meet my needs & wants. I doubt it will stay stock for longer than a week, since I am sure PA will be good to go shortly. I for one am tired of HTC & Samsung with their horrible update policies in the US of A. The added function of Sense or TW no longer outweighs Googles base offering for me, not with the level of apps out their.
[Nexus 5 General] abdel12345:
I honestly don't care if its pure android or not. You still get updates right away and an awesome phone at a cheaper price. Google owns android anyways so technically they can say whatever they want is pure android. If they bloated it with Google apps they can still say what they want. (This is based of my limited knowledge so it might sound stupid to someone that knows more than me but its how I see it at the moment)
[Nexus 5 General] aindow:
Any chance someone could pull the sound recorder for me please? Thanks. Rik.
[Nexus 5 General] krispyfriez:
Android IS Google's operating system...
[Nexus 5 General] MarkGbe:
is this thread serious? lol Android = google. Pure android phone = pure google phone

someone must have been bored..
[Nexus 5 General] timtlm:
Agree this is kinda silly, and confusing for a lot of people. Pure AOSP wouldn't have the play store or any google apps, similar to installing CM without installing gapps. In AOSP everything is open source. All the google apps like the play store are not open source. Google's nexus line is as close to core AOSP android as you get. Obviously it has a few custom elements to give it a google look to match the background with all of their google app icons, but it is very minimal. The main point is that the nexus line is the first to receive updates to android. However, even that is a slight misnomer because only the brand new device gets it first, and the rest of the line like the Nexus 7 2nd gen will wait a few weeks for 4.4. It will be interesting to see how long for the first gen Nexus 7, Nexus 4, Google Edition S4, Google Edition HTC One. The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus are no longer supported. Google only guarantees support for 18 months.

https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3468085
[Nexus 5 General] MordyT:
I'm sorry to do this, but this post is inaccurate so much, I had to say something. Google did not start android, they are not the co founders, they bought it from another company.

As for nexus series, you still have to unlock them to install anything custom. Your term of jailbreak applies here as well.... Just really easy to do on a nexus. And the jailbreak term is a bad term in general.

As for gapps, or Google apps, if you add those to asop then yes, you have a closer nexus experience.

Wrong.

Pure android does not equal pure Google.

The point of this thread is correct. Pure Android is not found on a Nexus. A pure Google experience is. Just like a pure HTC experience is found on a HTC one and a pure Samsung experience is on a SGS4.

It is however easy to get pure Android on a Nexus device, somewhat less easy on other devices. However most people do not want a pure android experience. Don't forget Google Play is a Google app.
[Nexus 5 General] MarkGbe:
well the point is that the OP words this thread like google is pulling the wool over peoples eyes.. which they're not, making this thread useless.

No one cares about aosp vs what comes stock on a nexus device.

Those who want stock aosp can build it themselves. Everyone should know what they're getting when they buy a Nexus device.
[Nexus 5 General] lawalty:
HA! You mean, every carrier restricted phone that I ever owned, I could download/install/uninstall Google Maps, Google Drive, etc. etv. YET I need ROOT privileges to uninstall these apps from the Nexus 5? I need to do the same to my new Nexus 5 as I did a carrier restricted phone for their 'bloatware' apps by deactivating them, instead of uninstalling them?

I agree.
[Nexus 5 General] kayone73:
Its just a dumb troll post, he wanted to get a pointless discussion going lol
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
I can't believe how pedantic the OP is being here. Maybe the point he's making is valid in principle, but it's also totally irrelevant. It's a Google device that comes from Google; therefore, it's a pure Google experience device.

There are probably about 8 people on earth who truly care that the Nexus 5 is not a pure AOSP device rather than a Google experience device (which, as others have pointed out, would break with Nexus tradition and offer less value to the consumer), and anyone who actually expected it to be a straight-up AOSP phone is missing the forest for the trees.
[Nexus 5 General] gee one:
I understand the difference between aosp and google/nexus. Google and the gapps package add a lot of value and functionality to the phone. I'm more concerned where the aosp/google divide will lead. Conceivably, at some point, all the best things about android will be under google's control and not in the open source repo. What if you wanted to update the google now search to not look into your contacts, what if you wanted to change the way sms are handled. We are trading openess for proprietary features. Again, google offers a lot of value, but to paraphrase the dude from Nokia, it's short sighted like the boy who wets his pants for warmth in the winter.

sent while running with scissors
[Nexus 5 General] Ajfink:
http://rapidshare.com/share/B9A76F0C553E0D4B4579AAD97D5D07FA

Edit - Someone else uploaded this and I installed it and can confirm you can set it as the default SMS app and that MMS works.
[Nexus 5 General] pfmiller:
This is not a benefit of closed source, there's no reason why Google can't update apps that are fully open and available in AOSP from the Play Store the same as it does with its proprietary apps. I could be mistaken, but I think the Music app was still fully open when Google first started updating it between OS updates.