yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vimto25:
Is there a app for a counter of unread messages etc.. As my old devices used to say a number on the icon but this phone/software doesn't. Great 4.4 SMS app BTW works a treat
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ix3u:
I spoke too soon saying that a reboot fixed it... After the reboot I could send MMS, but can't receive anything actually... Any myself a text and an MMS from my wife's phone and nothing came through. Kinda disappointed its not working for me :-\ I REALLY don't want to use hangouts, so am using textra atm, but would much rather be able to just use a stock, no frills kind of messaging. Anyone else getting this to work with sprint? All I've done so far is the cf-auto to root.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Blinkenn:
Wondering why the smiley faces arent the little android face with this MMS.apk, they are just plain text whereas on jellybean I saw little android faces. I see all the emoji I can use but when I pick from the text ones they come over as text.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehsam:
CM10 sms?

is it possible to use the sms app from CM10 (or 11 if it's been put up on the github yet?). That seems to have some great features. I tried installing the cm10 one earlier but didn't have any luck. I'm not sure if it's a compatibility problem or potentially a permissions issue.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahfunaki:
Another fan of Textra. Have tried tons of other options and it's hands down the best...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] huggy_02:
anybody read this yet?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2398767
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigant262:
Use 8sms, exactly like CM messaging app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thinkleft.eightyeightsms.mms&hl=en
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wvcadle:
Do you use TiBu? If so, could you try to backup your messages and see if TiBu can restore them?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3Shirts:
I gave Hangouts a go but it's just not cutting it for me.

I am using Textra and it seems pretty great so far. I'll keep 8sms in mind if I go off Textra as I liked the basic SMS app from CM10.2 on my Nexus4.

Great thread
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdviper:
Started using Textra but it doesn't support the stock emoji on android. The emoji button doesn't show up as it would on hangouts for the stock keyboard.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ubigred:
ChompSms ftw!

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeimygirl:
HandcentSMS is my favorite. But I love to customize. I like pop up screens for quick reply and you can have the notification light be different colors for different people. I've used it since the G1. No issues.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robsw:
Still getting the annoying double sent texts with Handcent, but not with Textra. Had never tried Textra before and it seems to do about 95% of what I want, including the ability to customize the notification light. I kind of miss the ability to call the person from the texting app like you can with Handcent.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jeimygirl:
So I noticed the double message too on handcent. I asked the other side and they don't get them double but I got tired of it.

I'm trying out the 88sms now. I use light flow for notification colors per sender. I'm surprisingly enjoying the minimalistic look of it. And it allows a reply from the toast notification or a pop up. Oh and call feature directly from the message too.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Qbancelli:
^This.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dougshell:
I use "my calculator" for my more private messages. It intercepts messages from contacts of my choosing. Is there any way to do this on kitkat .
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b1g1an:
I've moved onto 8sms now, looks exactly the same as the aosp, so nice and stock, but the killer is the pop ups that include reply etc. It didn't pick up the apn properly but easily copied from the settings.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
8SMS is like the one from CyanogenMod. It works well, but I wish it had a few more features. There's nothing like GoSMS out there. Everything else seems bloated.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KidTech:
I just installed Textra and was wondering how can I have it where the number of text message shows up by the icon. Like the iphone or windows phone it shows the number of text messages you have in the icon. Does textra do this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kelvs:
Any SMS app with a homescreen widget ? I want to be able to quickly see and reply from my homescreen
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jejere:
Thx you for this APK, but can you put a black theme? Thx you
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viny2cool:
+1 this. Its really nice simple cm app. I used it on my s4

Sent from my Touchpad
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] craiigman:
Using textra, other than the logo, so far I like it a lot. Wish you could change logos with a custom launcher. But I like quick reply when you press on the notification and has some nice customize features.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KidTech:
Anyone?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesusfreakjacob:
works awesome! I needed a simple messaging app that worked with dashclock and this does the job!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Forrest80:
I tried 8sms and it looks exactly like old 4.3 stock. Very happy about that.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dahlem:
I'm using this as well:

Originally Posted by teapea View Post

Just uploaded the 4.4 ASOP MMS.apk

Allows me to select it as default and works OK for SMS - not tried MMS.

http://rapidshare.com/share/B9A76F0C...79AAD97D5D07FA

Edit: MMS works perfectly too.

Then installed Glowfly for then popup reply . . .
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hcut2k4:
I had been using Textra but saw this thread and download 8sms. Textra wasn't bad, but 8sms is exactly what I was looking for.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phishfi:
8sms is basically the cm SMS app... I love sliding messaging pro though!!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lawalty:
Those of you waiting for SMS unread counts to be shown on the sms icon. It seems Google has not included this feature in KitKat. As soon as SMS Unread Counts widgets get updated to 4.4, you can use that. But, until then, your SOL!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alissa7:
For those having the double text issue using Handcent, try uninstalling the Emoji addon for it. This solved the problem for me!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] F4M0U569:
Are any of you guys using chomps? Every time I send a text it FCs
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hotllama:
We're nine pages in and no one has mentioned hello. I had tried every app mentioned so far and I stuck with hello. It was simple and smooth. It struck all the right notes with me and I love it (even though I'm giving hangouts a chance right now)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
Not updated. Developers expect it to be out by Tuesday
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tebower:
It used to use stock messaging for my standard messages and GoSMSPro to manage my private messages with its private box feature. Basically in 4.4 I have realized that since only one application can listen for messages anymore, I'm just stuck using one application for everything. So GoSMSPro must be used for everything. I don't like it for standard messages, but I can't have my inbox being filled with things I don't want others to see. It also offers local backup, which I use.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ptr_hamilton:
Go for 8sms,never tried it before but it's great. Dark theme too ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HTCore:
Nevermind.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steezc:
Just gave 8sms a try since the hangout could be a little messy and of course the MMS issue. Everything on 8sms works great as what a stock should. Until Google gets all the hangout stuff together then im sure everybody will be back on it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ketjr81:
I just started 8sms today as well. I wasn't a fan of hangouts, I don't use anything besides sms anyways.

It's just an enhanced stock messenger but not a crazy amount of features like some other sms apps.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loanroller:
Thank you for this. Exactly what I wanted. MMS and SMS work great.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Schumi 01:
Thanks, but unfortunately for myself, MMS isn't working, just hanging there saying sending.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pseudoware:
Sounds like an issue w/your APN settings.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patmannyc:
I really want to use 8sms but MMS messages won't auto-retrieve and I can't figure out how to get it to work. I use MMS group messaging all day
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s_special:
I'm looking for a messenger that does the following..

-SMS/MMS (group chat)

-popup quick reply

-emoji support

All those requirements were met with CM with the stock messenger. I just wish hangouts offered popup reply and I would be happy!

Any thoughts?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thefoss:
Try a standalone app like SMS POPUP. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.everythingandroid.smspopup&hl=en

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Does Hangouts send SMS over data/wifi or over cellular? Looking for something to compensate for T-Mobile Wifi Calling. Ideas?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s_special:
Ty so much! I've been looking but never saw that. Love the XDA community!

After playing with it, I found a similar popup app that handles hangouts better!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nlucas.popupnotificationslite
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffvb9:
+1

Love this SMS. Just tried it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cell30:
I was using this, but it's not working on 4.4. It's just a basic sms/mms app with Google Voice integration. I've been looking for an alternative.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ubigred:
ChompSms

Invi = best looking sms app bar none!

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hotllama:
Glad someone likes it!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ketjr81:
I started using the app today. In the update description it says auto retrieve doesn't work with KitKat right now.

You just have to push the download button until they get that worked out.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wmoore:
I'm still using my N4 while waiting for delivery of my N5.

I've been using Contacts+ for ages as a dialler / contacts / SMS replacement. It also integrates with Facebook, Google+, LinkedIn and others for a unified source of all contacts. I've actually started using Hangouts for SMS just to give it a shot but haven't ruled out going back to Contacts+ at this stage.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Schumi 01:
Thank you, will have a look at them. Same thing happens with hangouts when i try to send a picture.

EDIT, Settings were wrong, thank you. all working now
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickj2010:
Is there a way to backup texts from hangouts to use in another SMS app?

I've tried SMS backup & restore but that didn't work as it wouldn't backup any of the SMS in hangouts.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmelan:
any update to this one?

MMS messages with both text and pictures do not show up, work fine on hangouts
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deanwray:
I'm creating an sms app that currently works on kitkat, does not have mms support yet (as it was originally intended to be totally standalone and for the UK where mms just costs way too much) but planning to add soon.. going to be opening the theme engine which is all dynamic and adding a theme editor shortly, it's open beta on play store but latest builds are available if you join the g+ beta group... just thought I'd mention it... it's a bit different and not using the typical 95% cyanogen or aosp code like others seem to... but feel free to try and drop feedback in the group or xda thread, info in my sig
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreaCristiano:
That apk worked awesome!!

Sent from my Nexus 5

---------- Post added at 07:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 PM ----------

I only had two gripes with hangouts the unorganized contacts and the inability to save a MMS

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regulusv7:
If you want to save a picture from mms you have to click on the picture once which will take you to another screen then hit the menu button on the top right and click save
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreaCristiano:
Yes in the SMS all but in hangouts that doesn't work

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regulusv7:
I am using only Hangouts. Just tap on the picture and it will enlarge, then tap it agin to bring up the menu options and hit the 3 dots on the top right, try it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreaCristiano:
I see!

Sent from my Nexus 5

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In the end the biggest annoyance I have with hangouts is the disorganized contacts. I will not SMS any if my Google + contacts. There needs to be separation until then the SMS app will stay

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] namurt:
+1 for sliding messaging pro. i just installed the theme engine add-on for it, too. it's too bad the add-on isn't included with the main app purchase, but then again, it allowed me to get sliding messaging to perfectly match the theme i'm using.

i really think sliding messaging is the future. it hits perfectly on all of the latest android design principles.

gonna have to take a look at this hello, though. i'm intrigued. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
I tried restoring my messages via TiBu (like i used to do all the time on my N4 with 4.2 and 4.3) but it didn't work with the AOSP sms app on the N5, not sure why, TiBu says its restored messages but open the app and nothing is there

Could anyone else shed some light on TiBu and restoring sms's in KitKat?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnzoFr83:
8sms is a very good sms app !
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cyberz22:
Textra is pretty sweet
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adio01:
Sliding Messaging Pro is nice, but I can't receive MMS on sprint using it. Tried emailing the Dev's and they didn't have a fix or know of one really. Messed with the MMS APN settings for a while but I eventually gave up. I would advise testing MMS on it before you buy the app.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_matto:
TiBu needs to be able to select itself as the "Default Messaging App" in order to restore messages (analogous to SMS Backup and Restore, which does a great job restoring SMS but does NOT restore MMS). Add to that fact that TiBu crashes with ART (instead of Dalvik), and I am led to believe that TiBu needs a major update for KitKat.

For now, I used SMS Backup and Restore (for SMS) and SaveMMS (for pics in MMS). I also set aside in safe place the call logs and message data stored by TiBu. An imperfect workaround, but it works for me.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regulusv7:
If you clear data on hangouts and restore sms from Phone/Messaging storage you can use Hangouts without signing in to your gmail.

You have to restore data from Phone/Messaging Storage in Titanium Backup if you want both Sms and MMS.

1.Clear Data on Hangouts

2.Restore Phone/Messgaing Storage in Titanium Backup

3.Reboot

This has worked for me many times so far.

Titanium Backup doesn't need to be default messgaing app, you only need to restore Phone/Messaging Storage.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tcat007:
I use Google Voice for texting. I do have 8SMS on my N5 in case I need to send MMS, but I doubt I ever will. Use mostly email. 8SMS dark theme is nice compared to no options in GV, so I may start using it. It does appear to send via GV as long as you put your GV number in the settings.

edit: I now see it went through my cell number (although displays my GV#). I guess I need cell radio off to have it go through GV.... or maybe 8SMS only goes thru cell. Back to Google Voice.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnzoFr83:
Go SMS Pro is too slow...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0IsanderI0:
Textra for sure! It's simple, a little customisable but nothing crazy, cool settings like pop-ups and expandabke notifications.. Best texting app out there
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
Ok I'll give that a try (previously backing up and restoring "Messages (SMS & MMS)" XML file in TiBu worked like a charm so I was attempting to do the same with KitKat

I just did a test of your method and it worked, thanks bud :good:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] busbeepbeep:
I started using "Hello" today and I like it. Nice interface.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] namurt:
i agree. hello has a lot of potential. it still feels a little too "bare bones" for me to use it as a daily driver, but once the dev team adds in a few more features, i could see this being my long-term sms/mms app. the look-n-feel of conversations is my biggest gripe at the moment. it's just a little too bland. i really like the look of the hangouts ui or maybe even a google now card-like ui.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deanwray:
this is not because I have a competing app, but you should read the t&c of "hello" and take note of some of the things in there. I think most people ignore them, and sometimes you shouldn't :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] busbeepbeep:
cliff notes? I can;t find them and naturally didn't read it upon installing
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medhinou:
easy sms

Try Easy SMS, quite clear and easy :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vil-2:
I'm looking for a simple SMS app, the closer to the stock app, the better. The only tweak I need is reverted colors, I'd like a black background and some Holo colors. 8SMS is fine but the dark theme is not so cool...

ANy ideas?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
Look on page 3...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vil-2:
Thank you, I'm actually already using the stock SMS app but it is white. Back on my GNex I had some themed stock SMS apps but I can't find such themes for the N5.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medhinou:
8sms is awesome thx !
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cuzz1369:
I emailed the dev and they said they would look into it. Its too annoying for me to use. Using mysms now. Works good.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medhinou:
you're right, Handcent is better !
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wyrman:
Looked at the playstore and didnt see 8SMS
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sakana:
Handcent too

I love it
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidKills:
I personally love Textra. Its light, simple, fast, and looks good.

w/ emoji add-on, (although we already have that :D )

Also the latest update allows for you to set it as a defaukt sms ( 4.4 support)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stone_phalanges:
Will any of these apps sync to the web and allow you to send/receive texts via a tablet and on a desktop computer?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dahlem:
Mighty Text

You can download Mighty Text from the play store and "link" it your Google account and get your texts on your tablet Mighty Text web interface and if your install the chrome extension for it and you are running Chrome desktop notifications and and answer from your desktop!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thinkleft.eightyeightsms.mms
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wyrman:
How do I get it on my phone. God I'm old
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
Um.... you hit the "Install" button :eek:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ubigred:
Disa combines sms, Facebook and Whatsapp messages into one chat :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GldRush98:
I've switch to 8sms. It's pretty sweet.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
Give Textra or ChompSMS a try.

ChompSMS has been updated.. beta http://t.co/VnXyBh4Q5T
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dirk:
Thanks to everyone who mentioned Textra. I was so sick of how fugly the AOSP messaging app is i had to try something! Turns out that Textra is exactly what i was looking for. It's simple but with just enough U.I customisation options that it can be tailored to suit different tastes. Personally i like the default setup!

I don't know why the AOSP app is so bland. It looks like it belongs in Windows Mobile from the 6.5 era. No thought has gone into it at all. Even the Touchwiz equivalent had a customisable background and bubbles!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KLoNe1:
I'm using the latest Handcent. The Sense 5 skin is quite beautiful.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
if i were u i would hide your friend's number
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evo_Shift:
I like 8sms. I like that it has a popup like iI used to use with handcent. I stopped using handcent because Lightflow doesn't work with it if the popup setting is enabled, at least not for me. I would randomly not get messages. 8sms seems supported even with the popup enabled.

Hopefully they get the auto retrieve MMS figured out soon. Waiting for them to download on Sprint is annoying. 8sms can supposedly do MMS over wifi though. I have not tried it yet.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] impruv:
The one I"m using right now it is hello. One of the best UI's i've seen and compatible with 4.4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DerItaliener:
I also used to use 8sms until now, but "hello" looks really promising!

I'll give it a try over the weekend :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anthonyly:
Is there one with nice customization like how samsung sms app you can customize it to your taste :3
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fosser2:
Yep as mentioned before I am using:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thinkleft.eightyeightsms.mms
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pard0ned:
8sms is pretty damn good. Thanks to this thread for recommending it. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deanwray:
when mine is done I think it will be the most visually customizable app on the planet... no joke!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UberGoat:
I started using Textra when I got my Nexus 5 and I am really happy with it. It has everything I need. It's simple and has all the customization I could ask for.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
it is good but mms auto-retrieve is not working yet
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] walie:
mySMS, lets me reply to texts from my computer and iPad and everything syncs up
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damianchito:
I tried Textra and I really like the UI and all the customization you can make but I see that there is no draft, is that right?

On the other hand, I tried 8sms as well and it's pretty nice, but still prefer the how it looks on Textra, but the search functionality and that handles drafts is also nice. I'm in the middle of a dilema at the moment.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolbreeze0688:
Go sms pro or sliding messaging pro?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BKPhil:
Still experimenting, but here's my 2 cents.

If you want lots of options and skinning and additional functionality (I don't): Hancent or Go SMS

If you just want the basis, and a clean interface: 8SMS, Textra, or chomp SMS

Right now I'm on 8SMS. Allegedly it's a slightly modded version of the stock AOSP KitKat 4.4 messenger. Nice and clean and basic.

But to be honest I'm not a big fan of the way it's thread view looks - both Chomp and Textra show the individual messages in threads using classic 'bubbles', which I think prefer.

Overall I think Chomp is my favorite in terms of look and layout, but for now my MMS threads trigger "Unfortunately... has stopped" errors.