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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
I do tend to empty recents. Does that kill the app though? Android System seems to think it's still running plus I still get SU popups.

I'll be honest, no idea what you mean. The only things I've done in FKU are lower the max freq to 1.5. The per-app mode simply bumps me up to 2.3 max freq. I've edited no other values.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yiwsg:
That's making me LMAO. The joy of Cm. Hahaha..

Anyways, what app you guys using to monitor the GPU frequency update?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
franco has said numerous times to not kill the FKU app

vibration definitely has an affect on battery life. at least when compared to audio. it's one of those 'you'll only save yourself 1% or 2% of the battery' cases, unless you have your phone vibrating all the time. but it is more of a drain than an audio type alert
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
As said... it doesn't seem to be killed.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kazan18:
I have been tying to install this kernal for weeks but didn't have the time so this morning i found few hrs install it and its great i even have bought the app for the extra features (even to support the developer) but just now i noted that the notification LED isnt working i just would like to know if its just a bug for now or something wrong in my nexus.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abdel12345:
I think the led has to do with the rom your on.

Please press the thanks button if I help you.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
you just said you empty recents. . .are you going to change your mind and say you dont remove FKU from the recents now?

as franco has said, as i have said, as multiple people in this thread has said. dont remove FKU from the recents list. i dont care if you think 'it doesn't seem to be killed' dont do it. franco has said it causes issues. dont do it. should i say dont do it again?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kazan18:
im still on the stock rom (just unlocked , rooted and now this kernal) and it was working fine till yesturday for sure.

thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
Calm down you self-righteous arse.

You keep changing your position. Clearing recents =/= killing the app. You've warned against one now you're warning against the other. Which one is it?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
killing recents = killing the app. it has been like that in android for a while, derpity derp

if you read the thread instead of being lazy, you would already know this. franco specifically says dont remove it from recents. word for word. but i guess you want to be lazy, and it shows
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
And yet apps that are cleared continue to run...

EDIT: this is all besides the point and petty. Franco still pops up with SU requests when I close per-app apps, presumably to revery my max freq to the desired state. My question remains: why does this cause a reboot on 31 and not the previous iterations?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
My LED works perfect. Its not a kernel issue. Are you using an app to control it like Light Flow?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thats not it. The PerAppModes have a service, and when you clear the app from recents the service is killed.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kazan18:
no im not but i did try to use it after i found that the LED isnt working...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
So surely if that service isn't running either my GHz aren't bumped up or they aren't bumped down. Why would exiting an app crash the phone (again exclusively on r31).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
You obviously are having issues and are not really listing to the dev. Can you recreate the crashing, or is it random? Do you have a log after it crashes every time to help the dev figure out what happened, or are you just wanting him to speculate?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
As I've said it happens every time I close one of my apps that I've deemed 'demanding'. I've already produced a kmsg.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
Then my suggestion to you, is to either go back to r30 or whatever version you liked before, or maybe try a different kernel. Nobody else seems to be having this issue but you.

Again, just a suggestion since you dont seem to be happy with r31.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mikebeatrice:
I'm actually having an issue on r31 that seems to be related to the guy who charges with the phone off (just because it's during charging).

When I flash r31 and then plug in to charge, it just keeps indicating that it's charging for a split second and then acts as if it's unplugged again for a split second, etc, etc.

As soon as I flash back to r30 the problem is gone.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] yiwsg:
Well dude, replicate the problem again, clear fku from recents, crash your phone and upload your log. Show us the log and we tell you why it's crash for no reason.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
I don't know why you're all so hostile. I was trying to report what could have been a bug to help with the development of the kernel.

It's entirely possible that my device has settled a bit after all those reboots. I'll keep testing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Langduscher:
It's gotten nice n cosy in here :cowboy:

Btw can anyone explain why my N5 derps when I use settings per app and clear FKU from recents?

Also, why does color control not work & when will tap2wake be implemented?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrisch91:
R31 works good so far. Smooth and no reboots.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tuilalnvinh:
bug when charging with the phone off

I mean that I powered off my device, plugged the AC adapter to charge it, then (after 5-10 MINUTES) it turn off completely that I can't screen on to view the charging indicator. The issue is gone when i reflashed back to the kernel r30.

There's a guy reporting a same issue at page #1145
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Alfonso87:
Never say tap2wake when franco is around..he could get mad, couse he said more than 20 times he won't ever add that feature...You have been warned!! :p

Color control hasn't been implemented yet, you can use faux color control app. The issue about per-app models is known but still unsolved..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
He was joking... :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
He's joking, granted it's hard to tell
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Langduscher:
Thanks for the laugh eheh

At least you stayed calm and tried to help :good: hit the thanksbutton for that :)

Now let's get back on topic

Anyone profiting of Jmnews' + Sbsss' settings I shared earlier?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
im wondering the same thing! i will set my settings to on boot, but i will check them 2 seconds after i restart the phone and my settings aren't what i set them at. i even waited as long as 5 seconds once, and still no settings were changed :eek: :cyclops:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Langduscher:
But you DO see AC charging when USB fast charge is enebled, right?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] imablackhat:
I just used fast charge. And it said usb not ac. And it charged quick. Cataclysm ROM. Latest Franco r31. Is it supposed to say ac?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
i added a couple things you quoted to my custom settings and am testing the results now. I can post mine later after work

---------- Post added at 12:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ----------

man, you sure called that!

Franco has the patience of a saint
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] thesebastian:
For now I'm using 57C CPU temp throttle. It gives me a good maximum temp while playing a "frying pan game" like PvZ 2.

The avg temp is Lower or equal than stock kernel.

(The ambient temp here is 28C-35C. But assume a 30°C ambient temp for this comparison).

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Decode37:
I tested fast charge by connected my phone to my computer and my phone said it was connected by usb when my computer couldnt read my phone so i'm assuming it works
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aLNG:
Auto brightness?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Langduscher:
Inside, no (10-20%), outside yes
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] r.suchil2:
If I set all the settings in fku on boot and I clear recent apps, does that affect the fku app even if its not opened?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
If its not opened what do you think? Why are you even clearing recents on boot if after you reboot you have no apps saved in the background? #f***logic
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] big_adventure:
It won't change your kernel and CPU settings (they stay set once set, since they are effectively written to a file), but it will ABSOLUTELY stop per-app mode from working at all (since this requires the FKU service to change the active settings when entering or exiting the configured app).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] r.suchil2:
Damn..I wasn't asking if I close recents right after my phone boots. I was just asking if its set on boot and I close recent apps once Ive opened apps it harms anything. My question was answered so thanks anyways
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I'm sorry, I don't really understand the question anyway. Best advice I can give you: just don't worry about your phone, use your apps normally and have fun.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] I also got a random reboot while trying to edit a post here in the xda android app.

Sent you a zipped up log via gmail.

Just making sure you saw it.

No UV, no OC. Under clocked to 1574 or whatever and GPU under clocked.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
This is the radio checkbox that you have to check in order to make an account here. Its how we get around from spambots making accounts. :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Exostenza:
Well it's time for me to chime in with the usual. Running r31 on stock 4.4.2, - 50mv uv and 675 at 300mhz. No reboots, no fku issues what so ever. I've never had to clear fku as everything just runs perfectly. I don't know what other people are doing as I've literally never had a problem with fku and the kernel.

Running like a champ.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mendozaram:
This is how is going with r31. First Cycle.

Nexus 5

Slimkat 4.4.2
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
I didn't receive any e-mail. Best is always pastie.org and post the link here.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sordna:
No, you don't see anything different in my experience. Best way to verify fast charge is by looking at the current. CurrentWidget is an excellent way to see the current both when charging and when discharging.

Fast charge gives me almost double the amperage. Make sure to unplug the phone when toggling fast charge, and plug it back in so a fresh USB negotiation takes place.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] thfreedumb:
Would it be possible to like stick an icon in the notification area to allow the per-app modes to stay active without having to worry about it being in the recents? Or did KitKat remove that functionality?

Otherwise, kernel has been running great! :thumbs up:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
franco has said before that he does not want to to do this, it looks tacky
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mikebeatrice:
After messing around a bit, I've discovered that enabling fast charge solves the issue. To clarify, I'm using a wall charger for this...When fast charge is disabled, I can't charge my phone on r31. I have not tried the same two scenarios plugged into a pc. r30 does not have this issue
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] thfreedumb:
I can certainly see that and respect his wishes.

Maybe have it like how the kernel temperature is...able to be turned on and off in the app settings. I have also seen it hidden from the status bar but only viewable when notifications are expanded. Otherwise, i'd be fine dropping the topic as the app already does more that i could hope for.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] paradoxiumwind:
Thanks. I'm using ROM Toolbox Pro to change the clock, even when I do "apply on boot", the values are reset - using Cataclysm rom. As far as I can see there's no way to modify the clock in Cataclysm, any idea how to get it to stick?

And at 1.7ghz is that going to be smooth as butter performance for all apps just like stock? I don't plan on playing games or anything.

Edit: Also, dumb noob question, but I assume I don't need to wipe or do anything when flashing the new kernel nightlies? I can just flash them and continue using my custom ROM? (In this case, Cataclysm).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
yup, just flash away. if you're using the FKU app it will reboot your device and when it starts back up you'll be using the kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] paradoxiumwind:
I don't know what app you're talking about, but I just flash the zip in the TWRP recovery.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bknightt:
Bought the paid version of FKU today and OMG, thank you for providing us with this.

Also, throttled the CPU at 1036ghz for playing games and they run just as smooth with less to no heat.

Obrigado Franco!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aavvaallooss:
FKU=Franco Kernel Updater. The official app to update and configure. Buy a beer to developer, please!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] big_adventure:
Honestly, there is almost nothing you can do to the phone at even 1.7ghz that will slow it down. It's just too powerful. There MIGHT be a couple of games where it matters (though I've not seen them) and benchmarks will be worse, but that's about it.

I ran at 1.7ghz for several weeks, and did back-and-forth tests with stock speed and underclocked speed. In all that time, I never noticed a significant difference in battery life between 1.7 and 2.2. Looking at the CPU states, I saw, in order:

1.7Ghz:

Deep Sleep: 75-85%

300Mhz:10-15%

1497Mhz: 4-5%

1728Mhz: 3-5%

with 1-3 percent split between a couple of other values.

2.2Ghz:

Deep Sleep: 75-85%

300Mhz: 13-18%

1497Mhz: 3-5%

2265Mhz: 1.5-2.5%

with 1-3 percent split between other values.

Basically, it clock higher, but seems to spend a fair amount less time there. I noticed no real difference in consumption. If anything, it was better with the higher clock available for me, BUT, as a disclaimer, I use per-app modes for all games to limit them to 1.2 or 1.4ghz.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Franco serious question:

Can you explain "slimbus: initial overclocking of slimbus" a bit more?

From the Git I got it has something to do with the audio... is it the audio chip itself?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Franco, do you have any ability to mess with the auto brightness sensor? It seems with stock kernel and your kernel, that sometimes the auto brightness sensor flashes 30,000 brightness for a reading or two even indoors. I'm not saying it's your fault or anything, but would this be something you can look into fixing, or is the kernel not responsible at all for this?

Complaints here:

http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/yGpATb4XnNU/oHMKQ2PlKfAJ

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2537978
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] paradoxiumwind:
Thanks for this post. I guess I'll just leave it as stock. What else can I do to increase battery life? was quite disappointed it didn't last the whole day today, and due to the internal battery, I couldn't carry spares as I did with my Galaxy Ace and just swap them when one ran out.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
sure you can, they're called 'power banks' and can be used to power a whole bunch of devices instead of just one. they come in all sizes too, from as big as your phone(with the ability to recharge your device to full times) and all the way to smaller ones the size of a lipstick container(the ability to recharge your device once)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] big_adventure:
There are a few basic steps to take that generally yield much longer battery life:

1. Disable Location Reporting and Location History - this is Settings -> Location -> Google Location Reporting. This allegedly makes Google Now perform worse, but I didn't notice any real difference when I still used Google Now.

2. If you aren't going to use it a lot, disable Google Now. It's very hungry, especially if you are frequently in bad signal areas.

3. Get BetterBatteryStats, and learn to use it. Make sure your phone is deep-sleeping most of the time you are not actively using it. If not, find out what is wakelocking it.

3a. Ice things you don't use at all. I don't use Google Music, Movies, Books, etc., so those apps are frozen on my phone. Titanium Backup is great for this, though you can also do it yourself by simply renaming the APKs in question.

3b. Control unwanted wakelocks, if you can't ice the apps causing them - the AppOps X application works pretty well for this, as it will let you control specific wakelocks for specific applications.

4. If you notice some really odd consumption going on, check the Running Apps list as well as BBS to figure out what is doing it. There are two apps which, once I start them on my phone, I have to manually kill in the Running Apps list to stop their wakelocks (Uber and Zombie Road Trip). I deleted Zombie Road Trip, but I use Uber all the time, so I need it. I just know that, after using it, I need to go into the apps list and manually force stop it. Swiping it out from Recents will NOT kill it on my phone.

5. This goes back to 4 - there are apps that might need to be killed manually, and there are apps that will do this for you: Greenify, for example, lets you configure your phone to automatically kill/hibernate apps that aren't specifically active. Be careful with that, though, as you can actually spend MORE battery if the app is forced to constantly load and unload, then you would just leaving it running.

In general, these phones spend so little time at top frequencies that you're not going to gain much by underclocking. And you might lose some, since the race-to-sleep applies to a bunch more subsystems than just the CPU - dropping the CPU back to 300 or deep sleep also drops memory frequency, GPU frequency, radio voltage and frequency, etc.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Bill Gamble:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32998083
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I realize that, but even with Lux, there can still be flashes of 30000 lux. It seems to be a bug on the light sensor side. I prefer not to have another app running, and since I run CM I can already have custom brightness curves... however the 30,000 bug still exists.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] luisvilla1993:
quick question: I have USB fast charge enabled, but my nexus still shows up on my pc and I'm able to access my files. If I understand correctly, my device shouldn't show up on my pc if fast charge is enabled?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
It will act the same way as before, but it will charge faster now. Thats all.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] luisvilla1993:
then my pc must have some pretty weak usb ports.. its been sitting at 13% for like 5 mins.. maybe because im using the phone, but all im doing is texting
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] uNb0rN1:
im new on nexus,i tryd any kernel and room but i cant see kernel settings in my room.itryd kernels on stock rom too.maybe im too noob on this device.tell me where exactely in settings should be of how to activate kernel settings(oc/and other custom settingss)thx
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aavvaallooss:
I think that you need an App to do that:

Franco Kernel Updater

Trickster MOD Kernel

...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] uNb0rN1:
where can i find it?does other kernels have 2?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]

no problems here, but I was taking a log for other app and I saw lot of touch boost errors

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c16m0ko0dxhg4h3/2014-01-07-21-57-41.txt
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
Just had a random reboot. No obvious cause as far as I can tell. Phone was just sitting in front of me, screen off,l and I noticed the boot screen.

http://pastebin.com/FvSQ0KA1

Any ideas?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aavvaallooss:
Play Store
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Don't worry about that.

The device failed to suspend for some reason then it crashed after iterating for a while. What were you doing before screening off?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] reeco:
Don't know if this has already been said. But congratulations on the 1,000,000 views :)

If only they were £€$ aye Franco!

:)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
Nothing remarkable. I was either on my home screen, email or chrome with FB chat head over the top (unsure if minimised or maximised).

It wasn't really being used much as I was on my laptop.

Edit: also Tapped Out may have been running. It's an app I use greenify on if that matters.

Edit2: happened again. Near the end of the kmsg I'm seeing 'devices failed to suspend' so presumably the same issue.

This time had Chrome, Tapped Out and Candy Crush (don't judge) was the active app. Again with FB chat head visible and screen off.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Pizzarrone:
Hi to everyone i've just installed the r31, i've done a charge until 100 ℅ with the phone off. When I went to see the progress of the charge the screen remained black and so i've unplugged it from the charger and tried to power on... The phone didn't give me any signals, to turn it on I had to press the power button for about 15-20 second. The battery was from 100% to 92%. Have someone had this problem? Any suggestions?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
This is the same error I got.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cobyman7035:
Not bad... 2hrs SOT. 28% used up

R31 using Ti2 gov settings

Via my NeXus 5 on Tapatalk⁴
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
You will find the thread in my signature helpful
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrisch91:
Is it normal that the pcrecognizes the n5 as media deviece, using fast charge?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
Here's the tail end of my last_kmsg [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION].

http://pastie.org/8612055

I was in the XDA app editing a post and then the phone restarted.

Like I said, no UV, no OC. I do underclock to 1574 for the CPU and 200 for the GPU. All other settings stock.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] imablackhat:
Usb fast charge is set to 1.5amp? But stock charger is 1.2amp. What's stock kernel allow phone max to pull for amperage on any charger?

What's safe?.. Cuz I have a 2.4amp charger I use got phone and qi charger sometimes

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Fast charge is for charging off a USB port, not Wall power... And your device only draws as much as it is capable of, not necessarily what your wall adapter can provide....

So, again, fast charging is for when you're plugged into your computer, charging from it, rather than an adapter plugged not the wall...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
anandtech said the n5 is restricted to 1.5 max input. it will not take anymore(some AC wall adapter chargers are 2.0). so you dont have to worry about your 2.4amp charger damaging it