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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] willgare:
Best settings other than default?

Hi, Can anyone post their best/current settings using r14 and the FKU?

i.e UV etc and system settings, location etc, for best battery life?

Many thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jumparound246:
Yup, got that problem with stock rom and r13, too. Video streaming didn't work well.

Didn't test r14 yet.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chad_Petree:
I don't know if it has been reported but I'm having a lot of issues trying to play FLAC music files with the screen off, the tracks skip quite often! :crying:

I'm using r14
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] timbck2:
Press and hold the option you want to set on boot and you'll get a pop-up menu with the option to do so. Took me a while to find it too.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] squeeish:
I'm extremely noob but looking at your kmsg, there seems to be a number of WiFi errors. Did your TB bring over any WiFi tinkering settings from your old phone?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] timbck2:
Quick question... Does a custom kernel like this one prevent OTAs from being installed, even if I downloaded a recovery-flashable zip of the OTA? I know having a custom recovery prevents OTAs from downloading, but I just wondered if I can still install the OTA zip. Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sidhaarthm:
Yes - indeed TiB did! I remember restoring WiFi settings and old SSIDs. However, I seem to recall that the issue also occurred even when I was on 3G. But on the plus side - I haven't faced any reboots since the last kmsg I posted on this forum. Few hours and going good - getting all notifications and occasional use. Last night (on home WiFi) it was quite bad - restarting almost every other minute.

PS* I did a restore of all data that I had made on the other Nexus 5 - so shouldn't be an issue with app compatibility and I did app+data restore only for user apps, not any of the system apps. Only system data I restored was for user dictionary and Email/Exchange Services.

Thanks for your contribution nonetheless! Perhaps Franco the man can shine some light on this?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I restored my wifi networks / password through TB without issue so i dought its that.

Check my FAQ thread in my sig

[MENTION=1607642]sidhaarthm[/MENTION] maybe its time to start afresh. Reflash stock rom and perform factory reset wipe caches. Believe it not but sometimes its easier to start over than spend longer working out issues which seem mysterious
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sidhaarthm:
Oh well - :(:( Yeah, agree with you. If the issue persists - then I will just flash stock KRT16M and start afresh. Will take me a long time to get everything back up - but then there's a weekend ahead :rolleyes: Any further insight is still welcome as I am at work for another 6-7 hours :eek:

EDIT: I am now kind of scared to use TiB - any ideas on what I should/shouldn't restore? I've seen some updates come through, but last night it got stuck on restoring Google Drive and stayed there for about 25mins!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Restore regular apps but never restore system apps or their data, that usually causes issues
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] daisun:
Hi guys is it possible to edit the kernel img before flashing via fastboot? I want to use the stock vibration strength but I need to stay unrooted for work purposes ie. I can't edit the files from the phone after flashing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Michaels1980:
Personally I only use TB to restore a bare minimum of apps, just the ones that would take too long to setup fresh.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
Sure. The kernel is open source. You can make your desired changes and then build an img.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] FuMMoD:
What app? I'm using player pro and no issues here.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
What I tend to do is use datasync https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quintstoffers.DataSync off the play store. Back up any app data that I I know I'm going to want. Go through your my apps on play store and delete any old ones you don't want or use anymore. When you factory reset the play store will download and install the apps in that page if you allow back up and restore your account. So then you have fresh clean install and then use datasync to restore your data. Datasync is a service which uses cloud storage so you don't gave to worry about local storage space as titanium back ups for everything uses several hundred megabytes. If you go back to stock I'd suggest fastbooting it if you have a PC with it set up / tool kit for easy mode
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mrimage:
I download touch control but how do i make sound boost stick?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PhantomGamers:
I made a build of r14 with sweep2wake and doubletap2wake merged but I'm not sure if I should post it here... It's not really enough for its own thread but it's not an official feature/build by franco either...

Thoughts?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bokoy:
Sure not here, it's not from franco.

Post it in android development, one user did like you with flo (franco+touch control) ans did it's own thread.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PhantomGamers:
Yeah I suppose that's the best bet.

Thread here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2538441
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EdgA#1:
Huh ?

First, this is a nexus 5 kernel ?

And compatible with all aosp roms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nubreed000:
from the first post in this thread:

"Currently does not work with recent CyanogenMod nightlies or any rom has uses CM sources as a base because they made underlying changes that are now incompatible with Kernels that don't follow their path."
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EdgA#1:
Cm is not aosp!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Hatshipuh:
Indeed. Which means it's compatible with every ROM that doesn't have CM as base, as your quoted passage says.

Carbon is CM based, that's why this kernel isn't compatible. Basically look out for ROMs that have AOSP or "Non CAF" in the title. (Except Carbon which sill has AOSP in the title though they are not (anymore). )

Tap-a-talked from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nubreed000:
Sorry, I meant to say "What ROMs are compatible with this kernel"....

And I always thought Carbon was a CM based ROM. But the thread title for Carbon says [ROM][AOSP]....so I guess that means I can go ahead and use Franco with Carbon?

Ah, Thank you for the clarification :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DesertVelo:
Carbon for Nexus 5 is no longer AOSP - it is now CM based starting Aug 28. Unfortunately it will not run Franco without patches. There is an unofficial build of Carbon that works great (no patches) at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2855948. Use vipermod dsp manager to take care of any volume issues. Franco codes a very good kernel to manage battery life and Carbon is a good ROM for our device.

Sent from the singletrack...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Juzman:
I was running PA. Now running SlimKat weekly with Franco kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] 5FOOTER:
Use stock ROM

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] LRC1710:
Well I was very into tinkering back in the day with my nexus 4, but since I got the 5 last year I stopped and used it stock, no root etc, but hey I'm on vacation I was bored and I decided to start tinkering, I'm running latest PA and flashed the latest Franco kernel, but my phone is getting crazy hot I don't know why, I play a lot of clash of clans but that's not a heavy game and I used to play for hours without it getting this hot, I haven't changed any settings in the FKU app I'm using it just as it comes, but this is worrying me, any ideas on how to fix this?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Set a per app mode for clash to underclock the cpu, odds are it's holding the cores at max anyways...

Try using 1.5 ghz in the Pam.

Franco uses a different thermal throttle system than stock, doesn't limit the freq as heavily or as quickly... So the phone runs at higher freqs and holds more heat...

Two ways to fix are using a lower thermal limit in fku or setting a Pam for the apps that get too warm like I suggested earlier.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] cubalibre832910:
Very good job franciscofranco! [emoji41]

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] LeJolly:
Completely off-topic: Franco changed his profile picture!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] odavans:
OMG :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kilowatt95:
Best times I've got yet!! 1 hour plus on LTE the rest on wifi. Great work Franco :)

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Roger.T:
Try Mahdi. For me the best combo with Franco..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Roger.T:
Try Mahdi. For me the best and most stable combo with Franco Kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bcote311:
try out slim. best rom, period
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] zephiK:
Thats like asking what is the best car?

Person 1 will reply back with the car they're currently using

Person 2 will reply back with the car they're using.

There is no best ROM.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] akash3656:
AOSP based ROMs are compatible. A non exhaustive list of ROMs which are compatible are: stock, rastakat PA, omni (maybe), Mahdi, slimkat.

Almost everything that is based on CM is not compatible.

Welcome and have fun with the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pierrebe:
Omni for sure. That's my case. Omnirom + Franco kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Juzman:
I ran PA for about a month, tried Omni and have now settled on SlimKat.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nubreed000:
Good call!! That's the one that I downloaded the other day and will flash later on this week. One question though: Does it have theme support a'la CM/Carbon? Themes have always been one of my main reasons to flash custom ROMs.

Yup! Hence why I didn't ask for a specific best ROM and just asked who's using what ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chill145:
Why aren't you asking these questions in either the general forum (in regards to which rom people are using) or the actual rom thread you downloaded it from
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheLastSidekick:
What I've noticed are that some kernels take an approach in regards to performance, battery life, or stability.

You have amazing powerful, albeit battery eating kernels like Trinity more for the powerful user.

And you have balanced kernels, with performance and battery (Franco, Purity)

Note : not bashing or preferring any other kernel or developer over another. Simply stating that each kernel likely has a different function and it's user base uses their phone differently. I'm much more of a FK guy though, have been ever since the grouper 2012 builds. I feel as if FK targets the general population and Franco and encapsulates the idea of causal phone users, and power users. Flash it right away and it's ready to go for the average user. But if you're advanced go ahead and tweak it for more performance.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] snives:
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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] snives:
That is useful because most games are not designed with your battery in mind, so they will max out your device at any settings. Reducing the max to stop it from running away is a work around, but underclocking itself assuming all optimal code and optimal states would negatively impact battery. That is only theoretical though because free apps have been built to care about draining your battery. In the world of perfectly coded apps and OSes we could actually save battery by overclocking properly.

Undervolting technically saves battery when done properly (generally an almost immeasurable amount), but any excess and you eat up even more battery in error recovery. It's pretty much only worth using to reduce heat.

Vomers tweaks aren't magic, he has done the same tweaks we can all do with FKU and scripts then packs his personal favorite values for those that don't know what they are doing to optimize their own device.

Generally speaking... Reduce wake locks, lower brightness, disable "auto" services, reduce screen on time, disable any unused hardware, improve connectivity, and 'fix' poorly coded apps by constricting them.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] diddly3000:
Why buy a quad core phone to sit on a duel core to save battery? Sod that, MORE POWER ?????
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Let me guess, you're also the type who has the accelerator floored right up to the point you lock the brakes to stop for the red light.... When the light has been red for the last 30 seconds.. Just because the power is there, doesn't mean you have to constantly abuse it...

Meanwhile, when you floored the accelerator when the last night turned green, I was trawling along, below the posted speed limit, knowing that the next light was red. By the time I get to the intersection, I've caught back up to you, light turns green, I haven't touched the brakes, and continue along at the speed I know will get me through the next green light... And watch you hammer the accelerator again... Only to lock the brakes for the next red light...

So, which driving style burns more fuel? Assume we are in identical cars...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ltdrev:
If you can get your hands on a Porsche would you go 200mph all the time ?

:sly:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Yes, he probably would... Until he had to lock the brakes for the red light... Then right back up to 200 when the light turns green...

He'd probably also be complaining about the price of gas, the cruddy gas mileage he gets, and how often he has to replace his brakes and tyres
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] diddly3000:
Bahahaha what the hell are you on. All I'm saying is I like all 4 cores running cos I own a quad core phone. I like its performance. If I was worried about battery maybe I'd put it in duel core mode.

You read WAAAAY too much into my post man.

Nobody talking about cars on this forum lol.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vtec_:
Strange analogy lol as going 200mph is illegal + does not help you accomplish much in practical terms. A faster phone means I can put my phone down 30 seconds quicker than if I had under clocked it etc, productivity raised across the board. Accelerating quicker to the lights does not save you any time.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
I know that, but it is an analogy everyone can understand..

That was kind of my point... And depending on the states and race conditions inside apps and other inputs, using a faster cpu freq doesn't accomplish the task any quicker... The trick is to find the lowest cpu freq setting that doesn't impede performance (I. E. The speed that gets you to the next red light as it turns green) and no slower... Rather than having your cpu ramp up to max, only to have to wait on an interrupt or other program aspect and have to idle down and wait...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] diddly3000:
Why are people talking about cars when I said I like all 4 cores on????? What's wrong with people in forums these days. You give an opinion but because it's not what others agree with they feel the need to go on a rampage with silly explanation as to why they are right and your opinion is irrelevant. Unbelievable.

Chill, go have a beer or go fishing or whatever it is that gets you relaxed.

I said I like 4 cores on because it gives better performance. But because of this I'm a lunatic mad man who drives his car in a wreckless and dangerous manner???

Give me a break. Think its time for bed, can't be arguing with these sorts.

Ignore and move on
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
I never said you were a reckless driver... I implied that you suffer from the same "performance is all" mentality that most of the Western world does...

We are talking about cars as an analogy for how different philosophies affect battery life vs performance...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ltdrev:
Since conversation is going there here's my new proposed infomercial for FKU:

- middle age geek : I was depressed lonely and without love but my sister told me about that thing: FKU performance mode!!!

3014mhz is quite useful I can play goat simulator and fry my phone all day long thanks to FKU ! ... And it goes on with more real life examples!

Super great ? No?

Burnin'up all four core and doin' quandran scorezzzz babey!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mythenmetz:
Is the battery and race to idle question really answered? All I can read from kind of scientific articles is no.

But everyone is telling how to get the best battery life because with your own measures you thinks your get better battery life. There are some clear things (like wakelocks), but I don't see the one and only answer if it comes to battery questions beside personal opinions and personal measures.

If there is a ONE answer (and I mean really answered, not by your personal measures) let me know, because last thing I know is that there are still some things unanswered, as you can see on the governor development). Maybe I just get this whole thing wrong, I'm just wondering why people know the answer on questions which never been answered in scientific ways.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ltdrev:
Who (people) and what (answer) can you be more specific?

No irony...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Okay.. Let's me see if I can answer this to your satisfaction...

No, the race to idle question has not, and can not be definitively answered... There are too many variables involved.

It's the same situation as governors, too many variables to control to answer that any one is better than any other... Some perform better under certain conditions, and worse under others... There is always that trade off...

With race to idle, program code quality, system load, system interruptions (wakelocks, interrupts, etc) all have their effects on the scenario.

Logically, the highest cpu freq that finished the task without having to wait on other threads is the most "efficient" (and depending on the other threads, this freq may change though the execution of the app) now, there is really no way to measure or control the cpu freq based on this logic, as it requires predictions of other threads.

Race to idle is most effective during sleep States of the device. As deep sleep is the lowest power state available.... Idle (300 mhz) isn't all that much lower power wise than max freq (2.5ghz)

800mV vs 1070 mV stock on my OnePlus One (the device in my hands right now that I can check)

So, no, there is no definitive answer, and there likely never will be...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SubyWill:
I'm not sure if it's the Kernel, but I have a strange problem where I can only receive and send an MMS if I have WiFi turned off. If I have WiFi turned on, I can't send or receive any MMS. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a solution?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] zephiK:
You should really read on what a kernel does, kernel has absolutely nothing to do with MMS or anything of that sort. Its a ROM problem.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SubyWill:
I wasn't blaming the Kernel. Wonky things happen on rooted and modified phones. I was just asking if anyone that happens to use this kernel has encountered this problem.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Kimbaroth:
Hello there, is this Kernel Working with the latest ParanoidAndroid beta (4.6 b1) and MultiRom???

The last time I tried this Kernel (like 3 months ago) this made my N5 impossible to boot and I had to install a stock rom and stratr from ground 0.

My last device was a Nexus 4 and this was my main Kernel (im using Elemental X ATM on my N5) and I wanna go back to this awesome Kernel.

Thanks in advance!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] 5FOOTER:
I would read the op fully I'm sure it answers your questions.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Kimbaroth:
I don't know if AOSPA uses the CM sources in order to compile the rom, thats why i'm asking. D=
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
This isn't the thread to ask which ROMs this works with. Instead, when in doubt, go to the ROM's thread and search if it's AOSP or CAF based. Franco is compatible with AOSP ROMs.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SpasilliumNexus:
That's what creating nandroids are for. Yes this kernel works with AOSPA. AOSPA isn't based on CM and never has been. Searching would've also given you the answer.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Actually, PA used to be based on CM. They didn't switch to AOSP based until Android 4.2
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AA1973:
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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Markmaster:
I remember, that for Nexus 4 was developers, who make Franco's kernels work with CyanogenMod. What about them on the Nexus 5? I am very excited with franco.Kernel but I love CyanogenMod too! I use stock with franco.Kernel long time but realize that I need something bigger. And now I am with ElementalX. But want franco.Kernel. Any chance?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.Colombo:
No, PA is aosp based
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Hatshipuh:
Did you actually read the text you quoted?

Besides you could argue CM is based on AOSP and it wouldn't be wrong, would it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] simonarturo:
They use different development trees, so as of this moment, pa is not based on cm. Do they share features? Yes. But that is a completely different thing.

Honestly, a short read of the first post would have answered this question.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Just read the first post... Where in it does it say whether aospa is cm based or not?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] paulkono:
IMHO, Greenify should be advertised in the FAQ of kernel threads.

Auto-hibernating the browser and other apps which I didn't need running in the background brought my phone to nearly 2 days of idle + light usage.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
And why should it be in the kernel op? Has absolutely nothing to do with the kernel....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] paulkono:
Kernel FAQ*. My mistake :o As a tip for battery usage since that seems to be the main bench factor in kernel releases and using Greenify would eliminate unwanted wakelocks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Once again... Has nothing to do with the kernel, so why should it be in the faq?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RussianBear:
Random question. Is n5 still Franco's default device?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
No, he's playing with an iPhone 6 these days...

And he gave his gf the 6+, but now she's confused because it's only 5.5"....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] RussianBear:
Pewp...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] simonarturo:
It specifically says it only works with aosp based Roms. Which means it doesn't work on Caf roms. Ergo, no CM.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Go back and reread the question... The question wasn't "does this kernel work on cm" the question was "is aospa cm-based"
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] simonarturo:
Which was asked on the context of whether it would work on it or not.

It is the same as when a person asks "is the window open? It is chilly in here". The answer to that question is either yes/no but what the person really wants is that someone closes the window. Context is everything.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
True, but your answer didn't address the actual issue either then... He was asking if a specific rom was cm based to know whether this kernel would work... You never addressed that implied questioned there...