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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Puzzlegirl:
I would have thought that would be something to do with the launcher you're using. I don't get that problem using Nova and Cataclysm rom.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] VVV850:
Stock launcher also. Everything is stock, only rooted and waiting a bit longer to jump on franco's kernel like I did on Gnex.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] zephiK:
No but you're using the terminology wrong. It bothers me as well as other users when people say "i bricked my phone" when you didn't brick your phone. Its just in a state where the OS is not booting due to user error.

Its like saying your car is bricked when you're out of gas.. when no thats not the case, all you need to do is get some gas. A bricked car would be a car that cannot be restored back (e.g. getting salt water all over your car due to post-hurricane).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
Again, that was my point.

Thanks for agreeing!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
Franco I think you need to get rid of the thermal-engine.conf file, it seems that kernel throttling is done by this file and kernel temp settings are ignored :(

I tried setting your value to 80°: still throttling heavy without device getting really warm, battery temp was at 35°C.

If I remember correctly there was a similar file on the N4 (thermald?)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Indeed, good catch :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nitrogen618:
What's the default stock kernel throttle? I know these chip can handle about 100C. Did it in my s4.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Savant:
I agree but, I was stating a fact and I use both but, so far art has gave me a better experience and is wonderful with your kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Testraindrop:
There are a few on stock as fast as I have seen:

Starting at 34C battery temp lowering down CPU speed and screen Brightness.

Starting at 60C CPU temp disabling hotplug and offlining cores.

At 115 degrees CPU temp is then complete shutdown.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nitrogen618:
Weird, I came from the S4, which uses the snapdragon 600.

The s4 doesn't use battery temp to throttle.. :eek:

And the S4 does not hotplug cores when getting too hot, only throttles.

These snapdragon 800 can handle 100C, atleast. When I benchmarked the S4, I made the throttle limit 105.

These nexus throttles hard. :crying:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sordna:
Can you use the platform symlink for the boot partition in Pringles instead of hardcoding the partition device? That will make your app more future proof, no?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes, just did it, pushing a new pringles build in little.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] freshiem:
When using trickster I notice that mp decision is on, and that frequency lock is on also...should this be case? I've noticed lately a lot of kernels have built in mp decisioning so thought I'd ask!

Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Update received here! I hope dhl work on Sundays over there ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Batfink33:
Did you get it through the Pringles updater app? No updates on mine.

Sent From My Nexus 5 Powered By Franco Kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
If you're a member of the Beta testing group you will get the update through the play store.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Sometimes a reboot helps and like J said you need to join the Franco beta channel on g+ and then apply to be a tester https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.franco.kernel/join
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Batfink33:
Got it, I thought he was pushing a new kernel but it's the app itself that was being updated. Thanks.

Sent From My Nexus 5 Powered By Franco Kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Here on xda we are all essentially beta testers running unofficial experimental software, so we all beta test an unreleased product (kernel) and before it gets to that state of being fit for the masses you have alpha builds. Franco's app is late alpha state currently :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Go Radio:
Is anybody else noticing some slight lag? It's most noticeable when using the navigation buttons.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DrYnternet:
Yes compared to stock kernel a very little lagg.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Batfink33:
Slightly but give it time, Franco doesn't even have an N5 yet. The stock kernel also sits at a minimum of 1ghz which will eat the battery, Francos has a min of 300mhz.

Sent From My Nexus 5 Powered By Franco Kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bobby janow:
Stock launcher in a group on the desktop. Got an update for FB on another group and the shortcut remained. No big deal here just very interesting and funny to see it happen. I would have sworn you guys were nuts until it happened to me too.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tqpolo:
Whenever I get a phone call it takes a good 5-6 secs after the phone rings before the display turn on. I'm assuming this is because of the deep sleep the kernerl is doing to save battery? Also sometimes the ring would get distorted like it barely has enough power to ring.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
Same for me. Stock launcher, FKU shortcut is in a folder.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abbz123:
1 day 4 hours, nearing 4 hours screen time. LTE at work is 1-2 bars for about 9 hours at home is WI-FI everything on, only things Ive changed, location history off/reporting off, location mode battery saving. Mostly xda app, whats app, hangouts, google+, voice calls 30mins, streaming music on tunein for 30mins, youtube 1hour, reddit sync 1hour.. amazing overall.. ive tried other kernels but this plays best for me with Purity rom/default settings on kernel. Keep up the amazing work Franco. oh.. still 20 percent left!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] VivendaLab:
Hi,

When I underclock the Gpu with fku, sometimes the screen turns black and then its Ok. This black screen durantion is in a slit second. Also happening with someone else?

Sorry my bad english.

Ps: stock with r23 and exposed

Parabéns pelo bom trabalho.

Enviado do meu Nexus 5 através de Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Jephre:
+1 to this, I don't know what he meant by 90+ on target loads since there are a few extra numbers after the initial 90. Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Just type in 90 and you're good to go.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] flex420:
Wohoo 11.1 fku is out. The improvements look great. But i still cant find the set in Boot setting. Eveytime i reboot it does not keep the settings. Anybody can hint me where to find this in 11.1?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Did you not even look at the tutorial or read the description in the app? It's the bookmark looking thing next to each option...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
::jumps out the window::
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Bajo76:
Yesterday i spent a whole day with r23. At the end of the day i had 23% battery left.

Today i went back to r20 and still have 75% after the day.

I mostly use the phone for phone calls through cable headset a little bit music and maybe 10 minutes surfing.

I ll stick with r20 for now.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bornoxt:
It happens to other apps as well.

E.g. FauxClock or FauxSound...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] peeweew:
Hi I have loaded your settings now. Im so excited to get full charged again
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Nice! [MENTION=4788174]Nbsss[/MENTION] and I have both had very good results with these settings. Performance is still liquid smooth, and we are both getting great battery. Just remember to give yourself at least one full charge cycle before reporting results. I'm really interested in getting a large sample group of people using these settings with their usage patterns. I'd like to see how much results vary.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Its written in the changelog of the app, its written in the "Connected" panel in the first message, its written in the Tutorial the first you open the CPU manager and besides... its visible everywhere :'( I don't know what to do anymore, I can't be more explicit :crying:

Did it occur to you that you probably used the device more the first day and/or had a wakelock using your battery? Because there's NO WAY r20 gave you +250% better battery if both were used 100% the same way.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ConMcCRay:
My phone keeps going from 13 to 12 back to 13 back to 12. I'm on stock with r23 nightly just putting that out there
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] omvir:
What is the 13 and 12 referring to -.- clarify please, maybe someone can help you out then.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] G8D:
Likely percent.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ConMcCRay:
Yeah sorry, its percent
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] omvir:
Hmmm. How long has it been going back n forth for? I know my battery does something similar at very low battery percentages. Let's say I'm at 5% remaining after a fair bit of consistent usage and the phone gets hot and I leave it alone for about half hour, I'll gain a a couple percentages. I think its something do with heat. Not sure.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ConMcCRay:
It finally cane down from 12. But it stayed changing for like 45 min
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] rockafellor:
Hey franco do I need to set all settings on boot to have your settings enabled or is it just for custom changes.? Kind regards

Sent from my cataclysmd francofied Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Just custom changes.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
I thought you wanted to do a toast message? As I mentioned earlier when the new layout was introduced in the beta the new icons are not really clear either. But you could send a toast message once the icon is pressed so the user will learn what it means once he pressed it. What do you think?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pkelly517:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] Setting the ZIPs download path in your app, can you link the file browser to search for a directory? If not, can we at least append the /sdcard/ that comes stock? Any change to this value means we have to start typing from /sd... Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nbsss:
See below:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Its tiresome to see toasts all the time when clicking that icon... what more do I need to do besides writting what the button does 3 or 4 times and even having the icon ALWAYS visible? :'(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] prasannathani:
You're awesome, thank you. Just because I'm new to this, but when ppl say FKU, they're referring to the franc kernel app correct?

All the settings mentioned above are applied using that app?

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Its also tiresome to see a "The settings seem not to stick over rebooting"-post on every page.

I've seen toast messages saying "blablabla This message will appear for 3 more times".

Or you retrigger the tutorial once you changed the layout? You could point on the icon and say "check this for set on boot".

I'm just trying to help as you wrote you want feedback on it... yes, I read it ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] z3nith66:
Yes, they're referring to the Franko Kernel Updater. I always read it as FK U so maybe franco's trying to tell us something :laugh:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nbsss:
Yep, set on boot also, glad to have another tester :)

[MENTION=4267798]JNewms[/MENTION]

Next trial im going with CPU temp threshold at 60deg
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DerItaliener:
I'm using those settings since they got posted tuesday, and I wasn't disappointed, got through 3 nights and 3 days (until today after University) with almost 4 hours SOT.

My usage pattern is light/moderate use. Very little gaming (like 10 minutes a day), mostly Whatsapp, E-Mails, Tapatalk, SMS and a few Phonecalls, as well as listening to music and watching some Youtube. Time on 3G and WLAN is about the same.

Moreover I'm using them with lux for auto brightness (lowered a bit but still not at all minimum) and a few tasker tweaks (like switch to 2G if WLAN connection), which could affect the results also slightly.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Franco just sent me a couple more settings to try. Only thing is I gotta do it through ADB. I'm at work right now so I won't be able to apply them until later tonight.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] :
Does it mean those settings will be set to defaults by franco if the tests are fine?

I would like to test it too but I would even more like to understand those settings. This is why I haven't tried them yet. Furthermore which parts will be affected (get worse) by settings those values? If e.g. gaming is not as good, it wouldn't be a problem since I don't use my N5 for gaming.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] sordna:
These icons are not used that frequently that a toast would be annoying. I think it would drastically reduce the posts and questions! Another alternative would be if you could print a column heading at the top of the screen, that says "set in boot" and is always visible even if you scroll down .
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Beremus:
For those who were wondering, I did manage to fix my video recording issue. Someone suggested that the gapps in Cataclysm was THE thing causing conflict. I flashed PA Gapps and the problem is now solved.

Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Langduscher:
Jumped on the bandwagon too :cowboy:

Not noticing any drawbacks so far :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dannstarr:
Im experiencing a strange issue. Firstly i'll say that up until today i remained on the stock rom that shipped with the phone (4.4) rooted, and since kernel r12 came out i had been on that, I never saw a reason to want to update from there.

However, today I went ahead and updated to 4.4.2, stock and then flashed r23.

Now, the only chance I have had to charge my phone has been from a usb on a pc, i plugged it in at around 60% and left it literally for about 5 hours, and in that time i only reached 95%

I then noticed that my cpu temp was high, about 63 deg c, and so i looked at cpu spy, and it seems that throughout the charging time, my cpu gets ramped up to 1958mhz (i have this set as the max allowed)

Has anyone else experienced this? And what could be a cause? I cant be sure it didn't happen before, but I certainly had no reason to go looking before

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When not charging, my phone enters deep sleep just fine
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jdec529:
Got a question for ya Jnewms. The target load for in Franco have a percent then a frequency. What values did u input for that. Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Aerowinder:
I'm not sure if this is a bug with the kernel, or the updater app, or my setup, but r20 and FKU 11 did not have this issue.

Problem: PerAppMode settings never revert.

Reproduction:

For a game I play, I use PerAppMode to underclock the CPU to 652MHz, and the GPU to 320MHz. When I exit the game, and even swipe it from the recent list (can verify it's not running with task manager), the 652MHz sticks. If I change it to 2265MHz, it goes back to 652MHz (multitask out, then back in, or kill and reopen). I attempted to disable PerAppMode in the FKU settings, but this also did not fix it. Reboot seems to be the only way to fix it. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nbsss:
I'm off the charger now at 100%, froze the fku app, rebooted, and applied new values manually, will report back in a few hours
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] riDDimann:
Put the "Set on boot" checkbox into the dialog where you set the value.

Being able to reset to the default value would also be nice.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aNYthing24:
Pretty basic. Stock rooted with Xposed and GravityBox. Running Franco's latest. Nothing special, haha.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] prasannathani:
Apologize in advance if this is a silly question but how do I enter settings like timer_rate, go_high-speed, target_loads, etc. into the FKU app?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Jephre:
Hi prasannathani, you need to click into CPU Manager, then click into governor control! You can change them there.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] prasannathani:
Thank you, oversight on my part. Appreciate your help [MENTION=3121151]Jephre[/MENTION] :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
There's an explanation of some of them if you follow a link in my sig and prepared to read a fair bit following a conversation. Its old from Galaxy nexus, I have received several requests about what all the settings do, I have been meaning to add to my FAQ thread but have been pushed for time due to my own life outside xda.

[MENTION=4267798]JNewms[/MENTION] nice to see you on g+ :) I'm still testing, again my phone has lasted the day without any worries although it was fine on the defaults. At the stores I work at generally there is poor to **** signal inside for 3g and working all over the place at several locations (i go all round my county and to wales) for my job its hard to give results with ideal testing conditions that are similar day to day. Tomorrow I should be home most of the day on WiFi which should atleast allow the most for the most consistancy in terms radio signal
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Forget what you saw here... ?

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Was that you in the Franco post?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jb0ne:
Why is it that when I go into CPU Manager and set Maximum CPU Frequency to 2880mhz, then exit and come back, it's set back to 2265mhz!? I have the checkmark on to the right.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Not sure. You'd have to ask the cpu manager dev.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
No idea, mine works fine, I make a video to prove it if you want. The checkmark is the set on boot.............
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jb0ne:
Oh I believe you. But on my N5 I can set it to 2880mhz, exit out and when I go back in it's set to 1728mhz! I can make a video to prove it ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
That's because it goes thermal throttled... it will get hot very fast even if you don't feel it the cpu sensor is very sensible... most of the times too much, then it goes crazy and throttles to prevent it to go too hot.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Ay, Steve aka The Gingerbread Man, I added you a little while back thinking that was you :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
Ok cool. I'll add you back once I've gotten home from work.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] prasannathani:
Is the FK U app not art compatible? Keeps FC ever since i switched runtimes
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jb0ne:
My temps are hovering around 43-45C; my limit is set to 65C. I'm not running anything else in the background except BettBatteryStats; should I not be able to pick somethin g higher than 1728mhz? And if I'm unable to pick anything higher, will this be the absolute limit or will the kernel/KFU allow it to go higher?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
i had an issue when i flashed a custom ROM where it was giving me incredibly slow charge times and was getting warm to the touch(not as hot as yours though). it was suggested that i factory reset and flash the rom again. this fixed it. maybe revert back to stock kernel and test to see if it's that. if so then you could just redownload and reflash the kernel from within the app. if not, then i suggest doing a factory reset of the stock rom and then testing
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Don't know & don't care. The runtime compiler is in the Developer settings and its meant for developers. All apps are currently made on top of Dalvik and that's what works.

Sure but this sensors are kinda strange. On the N4 and the GN the sensors seem to be more accurate. On this device just opening an app will make the sensor read +10-15ºC in a matter of 1-2 seconds so even though you see 43-45 now as soon as you open a game for example you'll be pretty much throttled, specially using 2,8GHz clocks...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Doctors orders take the weekend off :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jb0ne:
Ah I see, thanks for the explanation. So what would you recommend as the setting for max mhz?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Default settings
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Meowdib:
Yeah. ThermalCF reads 34° and FKU says 44°
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jb0ne:
Roger that I'll just reset and use it like that for a few days. Thanks!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] XtraWho:
In case it hasn't been said enough

Thank you!

Thank you for a great kernel and your hard work mofo!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] malinois16:
It is working for me and I am on Art and Cataclysm Rom. What Rom are you using? Maybe that is the cause? I can assure you it is working perfectly here.

Edit: Also if you are using xposed framework with gravity box could be a problem with art
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
it's working for me with ART on stock rom. it also worked for me on ART on Cataclysm and Purity roms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DanP47:
I think I just experienced this too. I have the CPU max at 1GHz for an app, and after exiting the app it just stays at that freq. All other settings that I changed in the per-app mode seem to have gone back to normal though. I noticed the 'FKU has been granted permission for superuser' message popped up at least 2 or 3 times after I had exited as well.

When I used the app earlier on it seemed to resort back to normal settings afterwards though, so it may be something to do with how the app is exited.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Martin-Doc:
Suggestion for the CPU temp icon in status bar: a triangle with the lightning pictogram in the middle very much resembles an alert icon from other applications / android environment itself. Could it be changed to something less confusing?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ahse0w:
i am using r23 and the fast charge option does not work..

i used trickster mod to toggle but when plug into my laptop, it still shows connected as media device..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
i dont think it's coded yet
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JNewms:
It doesn't work on any version yet. Other things have taken priority.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DoesntPostAThing:
Just treated myself to a Google Play gift card today, and first thing I bought was FKU. With the bulk of my school work done, I look forward to a good 2 weeks of tweaking! (if any is necessary).

Been running r23 for the last few days, and it has been solid as a rock. Good to have my Nexus 5 get a taste of this speed before I have to send it back for an RMA (replacement should arrive on the 24th).