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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
I quote myself to tell that today i have the problem again (after a day of use)...i will revert to the r50 and i will let you know if there is again [MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] can it be that there is a problem with the new GPU Patches?

Oh and it is just me or the kernel is now less battery friendly? It seems that with the same use (and of course same wakelocks etc) if i use the phone the battery drains faster...maybe is just me!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EPayne123:
Same here, never had any SoD either except for on 50 and 51 both. . . Both Interactive and On Demand, Row only, ART only, Stock ROM only, UV 0 and 50mV(Tested Both), using AdAware with their own host file(No Mods Done To It Myself). Unable to pull anything at the moment.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Irvysan:
Same here also, 49 is rock solid
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EPayne123:
Also seemed to happen instantly EVERY time I lost signal for a moment while walking into a walk-in refrigerator and freezer.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Any of you use xposed? I'm on stock/art/latest with no sod issues recently..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EPayne123:
Sorry, will update my initial post with the description with that information also. Thanks for reminding me of that. Btw, no. . . ART here.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Yes i do...but i haven't any SOD...maybe for battery life it is just me (i achieve 3 Hours of screen but some times in the past i reached the 4) i have only the impression that when i use the phone (wifi or mobile data) the battery drains faster respect the past...and the issue of "landscape lags" is really strange...i'm trying the r50 and i will see if there are the lags! However for both the issues i don't think that Xposed is the problem...it doesn't affect battery life or anything and i have the framework from the first day with my phone and i use FK from r30 i think (also FK from the first day with Nexus 5)...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Irvysan:
I'm using xposed, any particular module that may be interfering? I'm not using anything that adjusts CPU/voltage. Even on stock settings I have SOD, even after just a couple of mins.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Doesn't mean an xposed mod isn't suddenly starting problems... Try removing modules one at a time and see if the issue clears up..

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Sods aren't just voltage related... I believe it was myfluxi who came in thread a day or so ago and listed a couple kernel events that can lead to Sods, I'm just curious is any of your xposed mods (I don't know which, I'm on art, so no xposed possible for me) may be triggering those events... Try removing the mods one at a time and see if that helps any. (or remove them all and see)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Ok thanks! For now i will see if with the r50 there are the "landscape lags"...for battery life well i definitely exclude Xposed because the wakelock are ever the same and also because i use only Gravity Box and i use only "essential functions" like battery percentage, shortcuts in lockscreen etc...nothing that i think can affect battery life!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Anything that makes use of CPU can affect battery life....

And since you seem to be the only one with "landscape lag" it must be some setup on you're phone that you're using and the rest of us aren't... (could be just your custom mix of settings).. My suggestion (as always, to roll out other mods, tweaks, and tunes) clean flash back to your room, install franco's kernel, and see if the problem persists... If not, add your mods back one at a time until the problem returns.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I'm not sure there was any GPU patches included, how ever I do know the tunables were changed and it makes scrolling smoother and the GPU act a little more aggressively but shouldn't hurt battery much if at all. I have never experienced landscape lag and iv used the newer GPU settings long before they were made defaults. I run stock with art, no xposed or any **** like that. I think a lot of 'bugs' are from people messing with things they don't understand how it works but use things like xposed for additional functions. Before reporting bugs check to see if it works on stock rom with xposed **** turned off, then try turning modules on till you find your culprit.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] defffizz:
im amazed at how smooth 51 is. lately i avoided franco kernel because it felt less snappy than the stock kernel, but now its on pair. thanks:)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
game size doesn't control how hot your phone gets, only cpu usage... and many games are bad for maxing the cpu freq and holding it there (which is why many of us use PAM's for gaming, limit the max cpu speed for the game)

install a cpu monitor and check what cpu freqs the game is making use of... then use a pam to limit the game and test the lowest max you can use without interfering with game play... (most games I've tested run fine, with no noticeable difference in play at 1ghz, rather than the 2.26ghz max of the cpu)

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steps for filing bug report...

step one

find steps to reproduce issues consistently...

step two

make sure it's not the other tweaks, tunes, or mods on your phone causing the problem easiest way to remove them all, clean flash your rom, then reinstall franco's kernel)

step three

check if the clean flash fixed the problem, if fixed issue was NOT directly kernel related, reinstall your mods one at a time until your issue returns... that mod is the likely culprit causing the problem... decide which is more important, using that mod, or using franco's kernel.

if issue was Not fixed, then likely a kernel bug... post bug report here.

:P
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
First of all thanks for your answer! I repeat again that probably for battery it is just me.. I'm not accusing the kernel! And there are some changes on the gpu like you can see on the changelog ("faster gpu response time on input events " ).. Also I'm not accusing completely the kernel because I need to test the old version (the r50) to see if the problems with the lags can be kernel related.. If there are problems also with this version well I will know that there is a problem in my userspace.. And please don't call s**t the things that all of you don't use.. Android is beautiful also for the great customization.. This is disrespect not against me at least but against who created this thing (in our case Xposed)... And however thanks for telling me that I'm one that doesn't understand what I do.. I use Android since two years and well I think that I learnt something.. However don't worry!

Inviato dal mio fantastico Nexus 5 con Franco's kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
he's not exactly calling all the xposed mods excrement, but rather just using the term **** at a catch all, rather than listing every potential tweak/tune/mod...

perhaps it's just a North American thing... we tend to use "all that ****" and "**** like that" to group things, whether they're good or not.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Well probably you're right.. However I think that there are a lot of ways to tell what you think... The spirit of my post wasn't against the ***t /everyone has its opinions) but that if there is a problem all the users are stupid because they wrote in the thread of the kernel... Of course I wrote because I can't reproduce the problem and I told also that I'm testing if there is the problem with the latest version... And some of you attacked immediately Xposed :)

Inviato dal mio fantastico Nexus 5 con Franco's kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
no, we're not attacking xposed, we're suggesting that because of the way xposed works, it's likely to cause interference, and xposed has been known in the past to cause issues...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
And I know.. In fact I told (when you answered to me the first time) that if the problem will appear also with r50 well probably I made something wrong! For now with old version there isn't the "landscape lag".. Just saying :)

Inviato dal mio fantastico Nexus 5 con Franco's kernel
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
so you're not willing to try 50/51 without your xposed mods (and any other mods you've made) to see if those 2 kernels work without your landscape lag?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I'm not trying to attack you or xposed, I used to use it in the past. I meant **** as a word for stuff, something got lost in translation so sorry if I offended you. I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence saying you saying you don't know how xposed works. Most people will click a button and something happens. Most people won't know how you get from pressing a button and the code required to make your cool feature actually happen. The customisation through android is one of the best things about it and its cool to have loads of options to suit all.

Back to helping your issue. The change log which says faster GPU response time has been changed by altering the tunables for the timers. It was 50/25 and now its 25/15. Meaning the response time is halved as the timer checking for events has been halved.

So if we can narrow down to easily reproducible situations where you get your landscape lag I'll try to help. Can you tell me exactly in which apps with as much info as you can? Maybe your just getting thermal throttling while playing a game?

Again sorry if I offended you!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Of course i will try...but before disabled Xposed (that unfortunately i need :) ) i'm trying the r50 because i noticed the issue with r51...maybe is something strange and this is something to do only with my phone...i know that all Nexus 5 aren't the same!

Mate you didn't offend me...i think only that in this thread some times there are generic answers and that some people think that the users are all stupid, i think that some times we need to see what the user want to tell...i know that there are some stupid people that write only "kernel doesn't work" "stock kernel is better" (i read you're great FAQ thread ;) )...but like you can see i write post where i try to explain my problems! I don't want to be a stupid user (and i'm not i think!)

However for my issue with the lags...unfortunately is totally random...for example i had the issue last night and then the reboot fixed then it appears again in the afternoon while i used my phone.

The problem is only in landscape and in every app of the phone (Whatsapp, Tapatalk, Gallery etc) also for this i thought that it isn't an userspace problem but can be that i'm wrong! I don't play a lot of game (maybe before going to bed) also for this i would exclude thermal throttle!

For now with r50 i haven't any issue but the version is on my phone only from couple hours then i can't tell that the problem is resolved!

And thanks...i haven't anything against you sorry if my post was "aggressive"
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Why do you "need" xposed? and you're not permanently removing it, you're just running some tests... All you need to do is disable all the mods to see if that cleared any issues.. then turn xposed back on and add your tweaks one at a time, checking for the lag each time.

If the lag still persists without the xposed then I would suggest a full reflash of your phone. I know franco has said he never reflashes his rom, but i don't think he plays around with other tweaks and tunes like we do... first thing I do when I encounter any persistent issue (across several kernel versions) is clean flash my rom, and that has always cleared up any lingering issues outside of actual kernel derps (which franco readily admits to and fixes quickly)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] UpSpin:
I also use the Xposed App with Gravity Box, Play Store Fixes and Android Tuner modules and don't experience such issues. However, because Gravity Box is such a huge and massive module with lots of diferent deeply integrated features, it's possible that you use some (e.g. Pie which I don't use) which might cause those lags in landscape mode because of improper calculations once rotated.

Still, as I said in an earlier post, I experienced a SoD in r50 and r51 each. But I can't reproduce it, nor know which caused it. So it was a very rare event. Thus it's something completely different to your issue most probably.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] slpnglionhrt:
Delete.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Yes i know...however the main problem is that i can't reproduce the issue...however i "need" Xposed for stupid things i admit...i use gravity box for battery percentage and lockscreen shortcut and also quick settings in notification bar, nothing that is too complex but is something that i want because i want to stay with stock rom, oh and also for apps ops..i have no other modules...however there is the problem also with r50...but with the r51 the apps were impossible to use in landscape while with r50 after some seconds i can use the apps without problems! And it isn't a placebo it's a complete different behaviour...at this time what can be? I will try to disable Xposed but what can be the problem? Is really strange!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
I have no idea what all the issue could be, all I can do is try to reduce the variables involved.. by eliminating or controlling all the potential causes...

I know it's an extreme suggestion, but try a clean flash of your rom with only franco's kernel and see if your issue still exists.

Take a nandroid backup first, and copy it off your phone, that way if the clean flash doesn't fix the problem you can just restore the backup and be back where you are now.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Ok thanks...first i will try to disable Xposed then i will try a clean flash...but at this point i don't think that is the kernel then i can skip this...thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
perhaps, but I'd still try the clean flash, might fix the problem anyways, rom rot may have set in... :p (errors from continual tweaks, mods, removals, adds, etc, etc, etc)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] UpSpin:
In FKU you can open the System Monitor which gives you a list of the running apps which you can sort by their CPU consumption.

View this list while in portrait mode, no app should consume >1%. Then rotate your phone to landscape mode, does any app consume some CPU over a longer period suddenly?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
I think his lag is due more to system glitches than apps behaving badly...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
[MENTION=2866716]UpSpin[/MENTION] thanks for the tip! I never explore that part of FKU! However if i made what you told to me i noticed that there are 3 apps that are around the 12 % of CPU...one is Android OS, one is Storage Settings and the other is FKU that i think is normal!

However i tried to put the phone in landscape mode with the CPU Monitor and i noticed that the all CPU went online at the MAX speed...i think that [MENTION=4860519]Tzfardaya[/MENTION] is right...there is a glitch in my System! I want to get rid of this without clean flash..but if i need to flash do you have an advice for the rom? At this point i won't flash stock rom! But i will study and i will see if there are other problems!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Stock rom isn't the cause of the problem, I use stock with art...

All I can think is some Bit Rot set in, and a full clean flash should fix the issues...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
Well of course i know that stock isn't the cause...if i need to clean flash i want to try something new :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
PA seems highly recommended...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] UpSpin:
At least it's obvious that something is wrong on your end now :)

As a last suggestion, try the app Android Tuner Free in which you can get a more thorough list of running apps/services/... in its Task Manager (make sure to show kernel apps, too). But the reason for your issues can be anything. Maybe you have some faulty file on your smartphone which causes 'Storage settings' to malfunction or you use a strange app/widget which runs in the background constantly. Or something is totally broken. But I think that's outside of the topic of this thread and you better try to do some google search or a full wipe.

I can't recommend you any other ROM, because I only use the stock ROM. I see no reason to try some experimental stuff if I can get with Stock and Xposed more than I would get with most third party ROMs.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
For now i disabled two modules on Xposed (that i found in the log that they generate errors) and the situation seems stable! I will wait and let you know!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Well, I thought it was obviously something wrong on his end from the get go.. :p

Hence my trying to get him to reflash his rom, that's usually a good way to clear out most of the cobwebs.. ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] justibasa:
Reboot on carbon and r51. Phone was just sitting. Wasn't doing anything with it at the time. Not undervoltimg at all. Running at 1497 max 300 min. Using all gingerbread man's setting otherwise. Here's the log. http://pastebin.com/EAMXWkzW
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Apparently your phone was either spinning too slowly, or too quickly... rpm_err.....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Bobtehblob:
I agree that 95% of the time a fresh install will solve your issues but It is good to at least find the root of the problem. That way when you are on a fresh install you aren't just going to just reproduce all the issues you previously had!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Which is why I have said numerous times to install your mods/tweaks/tunes back one at a time to see which one may be the culprit...

The fresh install is to determine if the mods are the issue, or if it is an actual kernel issue...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
I ran into a reboot on r51 while searching on Google Now, but not a problem. Bothers me, but I switch Roms so much it's ridiculous.

Just nice to be back on franco.Kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] occtec:
I've been using xposed and am on stock rom. Have been using Franco kernel for a while and not yet experienced one SOD especially from r47-r51 only thing i noticed is slight battery drain on r51
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
this post will be useful when you post a log
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
Excuse me? I don't get what you're trying to say exactly. Can't tell if you're trying to be smart or not.

Are you saying posting more on the forums in general, or just here?

When life and school pops up, you don't get time for much. I mostly just scan over now.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aloayzab88:
Any one know how to solve the FKU issue with no saving setting? Clear data helps?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
typo for 'log'. my mistake
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
My mistake as well. :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ilaf0106:
Does this work on purity rom I keep getting boot loop
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] xFuGiToiDx:
What kernel are you coming from? Your gonna have to dirty flash the ROM and then flash Franco kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ilaf0106:
Ok cool thanks I was coming from elementalx. I liked it but with the latest kernel it kept heating up and draining faster.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mikebeatrice:
Which modules did you disable?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrisch91:
Since r50 battery seems worse for me
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] incognico:
Is there any information on when the Sleep of Death issue will be fixed? It happens on encrypted devices. r32 is the last functional kernel which has no issues. SOD has been introduced with r33 and is still present. I am stuck on r32. It is a bit sad to see development continue while this annoying bug has not been fixed yet :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] shr33kant:
I have been using r51 since it came out with no issues whatsoever. However I did clean flash my rom and then the kernel and the only change I make to the kernel I make with FKU is to change input boost time to 1s and no undervolting (went from stock rom/elementalx to slim rom/franco).

I wonder how many people having problems are using twrp? I think it's the only thing not being asked in the thread for people having problems.

I personally found that twrp was very unstable on my phone.

On this device I found the most stable recovery is cwm - I recommend that you try this (v6.0.4.5 touch).
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gravityy:
i'm using this from r33 and no SoD until now... :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] incognico:
On stock ROM?

It is possible that it only happens on encrypted devices running stock ROM.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Problem is that Franco doesn't run encrypted, and you haven't been posting any logs... So how is he supposed to be able to fix the encryption sods?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] incognico:
Because it's a known issue and thousands of people experience it. Enough people complained.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Not encrypted.... And since it hasn't been fixed for you, PROVIDE LOGS...

Doesn't matter if it's a known issue or not...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] SedyBenoitPeace:
I had two modules that i didn't use...one was Immerse Me and the other something about Swiftkey...but however i think that i need to flash again the rom...my phone has something strange! :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Technecium:
It's not hard to see that crypto changed between r32 and r33, just extract the defconfigs.

Logs won't do anything at this point. It's not a 'bug'. If it is going to be fixed it is solely on Franco to make the decision to switch back.

Because I happen to be in the staging branch a lot recently I gathered up this info...

What happens next is up to Franco or one of the thousands who are affected by it. :P
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] shr33kant:
No I don't use encryption on my phone as its for personal use.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] MakDroid:
No complaining or anything like that but had just 1 SOD today with r51 and Mahdi. This thing has happened just twice or thrice since I started using Franco kernel 2 months ago.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
No logs?

Without logs it's just a complaint...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Technecium:
Stop complaining Tzfardaya. :P
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
Exactly....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] MakDroid:
If it would have been a complaint, I would have definitely attached the logs. I don't mind 'very rare' SODs when I get awesome battery life and amazing gaming peroformance on the same kernel. I just wanted to tell people continously asking here whether SODs are gone or not that yeah, they still exist in r51. No offence Franco!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tzfardaya:
But the point is, why bother mentioning them if you're not going to provide logs to help solve them? "oh, they're still here, better say it, but I can't be arsed to provide logs that may help prevent them in future versions"....

Ergo, nothing more than a complaint that they are still here...