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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] d0ge01:
Fancy and faux

Now our 4.4 ( and N4 and another phone in this earth except N5 ) use same kernel than 4.3 with different ramdisk and some fix

Wipe data / factory reset : don't erase anything from internal memory

Flash factory image will erase anything

format data ( TWRP ) will erase data and internal memory :)

[MENTION=4790322]kufikugel[/MENTION] : http://omapzoom.org/?p=device/ti/pr...it;h=ad17249821001789f159a5d5c542302e5f38cd2e

[MENTION=2838735]aosp[/MENTION] has found updated 4.4 binary for our platform, There is more to reality than Google POV
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alfiedk:
Hey. I am not getting gsm signal. ? Network not ready try again later.

I from Denmark
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikodr:
Well that kernel is not stock and is special modded,if he tries to use any other kernel with ramdisk from 4.3 it will bootloop.My advice is to use fancy,faux like you said or mpokang 1080,or rather wait,we have news that ti and imgtec released updated binaries for the gpu,so we could have proper 4.4 kernel for gnex :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] d0ge01:
Of course it bootloop :D

I Know, i can't wait for 3.4 kernel and gpu 4.4 support
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inselstaat:
Hello, I am also on this ROM with 1080p kernel and pa gapps.

For me, there are also black areas in the email app.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Quinny899:
Normal. It's a known issue and is being worked on
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rakpere:
Noticed that CPU usage tends to hang @ 50% even with recent apps empty and force killed all running apps. Running 1080p kernel. Anyone else having this issue. Measured CPU usage with Trickster Mod Kernel Settings

EDIT:

Issue might have come from High Performance Audio checked on. Testing without it.

Sent from Galaxy Nexus running SlimKAT Alpha (Mpokang kernel)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Edward Stanbury:
Common issue if you don't clean flash kernel with the ROM at the same time :) if ya look in the kernel thread in the first post its in the FAQs
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rakpere:
Without High Performance Audio usage is just fine, seemed that it was the reason. Always flashing kernel at the same time as rom

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Edward Stanbury:
Ahh I see haha all good :) both seem to produce the same issue ah well
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Rakpere:
Just incase reflashed all :)

Sent from Galaxy Nexus running SlimKAT Alpha (Mpokang kernel)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DJxSpeedy:
thx at all that anwered my questions ;) and big thx at our SlimKAT dev for bringing us kitkat to our loved SGN ;)

i have it running now and be happy ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vekhez:
Was having some battery problems, and I was thinking of going back to 4.3. My phone would not enter deep sleep while I was at school, I fixed it by changing the hispeed_freq to the lowest 384000. Seemed to fix my problems.. This was only on Mpokang kernel though, because on ASKP I have no problems (yes, ASKP Cosmo works).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gaby4430:
The ROM is stable but two major problems .

1= Graphical Glitches (Black Squares)

2= Phablet Mode ? Is there a normal phone mode ?

3= New phone icon ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Omar1c:
The last two are both DIY

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gaby4430:
What is DIY ? I'm French ...

EDIT : OK . Do it yourself . No setting for phone mode ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rockingwing:
DIY = do it yourself.

change build.prop for dpi (320 is default gnex value)

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rubikqj:
DIY=Do it yourself

It means that the last two are either caused by you or easily fixed. The first one is the real problem, although with the latest news we seem to have some hope!

P. S. But please, don't clutter the thread with these posts, there is Google in France as well. The answer to your question is easily found with a simple search.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flip360:
The new drivers for 4.4 gives the GNex a chance Google didnt want to.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daniil1410:
You can edit the dpi in build.prop. And as I understand from reading this thread there are still random reboots, so that is another major problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kostas1601:
Hey guys, is noone else having random reboot issues anymore?... I flashed yesterday and my phone was rebooting like crazy...it rebooted randomly about 4-5 times in an hour while I was doing things... Am I missing something? I wiped full, cache, system etc, flashed slim, flashed gapps...and rebooted...

thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cbstryker:
Any word of getting this going?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47151583&postcount=282
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Omar1c:
Its in the build.prop I will look in it to see where its located and I will tell you the code to change it back or get root and look for a DPI changed app in the play store and for the dialer icon I can simply upload a themed icon version but its just an icon...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikodr:
Most probably the developers of roms are taking a look at the files,these are updated binaries that could fix the gfx problems and other glitches of the rom.However it is not a one minute job to create a new kernel,so we will have to wait.

AOSP user that is a respected among the xda posted this :) i assume pretty soon 4.4 will be without errors
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daniil1410:
I guess what we all want is a dev to step up and say "Yes, it is possible to make this thing working. You just have to wait." or "No, this is just random spam.".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ScardracS:
You need to expect all slimrom's stuff

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikodr:
I think it's possible ti and imgtec posted the files,and if you visit here http://omapzoom.org/?p=device/ti/proprietary-open.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/d-jb-mr2.0-release you will see that it has all that is needed to have a proper kernel 3.4 for galaxy nexus.

But i assume developers have to speak up first.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Tribes11:
Is there any feature from Slimbean already added to it?

At least the Volume to control music when screen is off is present?

I mean, I really need this feature as it's the feature I mostly use everyday while on bus, so I don't need to take out to phone to skip songs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] d0ge01:
# git cherry-pick e98d0743d6ae079441a69be80224f9f096a4a7b0
# git cherry-pick f59b2e14bff2036264067a5e8ef494801528e4da
# git cherry-pick 8137028adad92178573b3448f833e1f0338c20db
# git cherry-pick d14d009262c4e6f6c3bc0fe389f1fc8b559ee35c
# make tuna_defconfig
# time make -j15

real	0m15.034s
user	0m0.000s
sys	0m13.003s

You are right, there's less than minute :D

[Sarcasm]

Anyway i really hope this new driver will fix at least reboots, graphicals glitches is not big issues :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Omar1c:
+1 on that music changer mod any guide on how to add it manually?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brankoni33:
Please help me how change DPI to 320 with fx editor.Trying more times but cannot.Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InvaderPastulio:
Just a thank you to devs and all contributors :good:

Running 20131104-1937 and is more stable than prev, no serious issues other than some power drain, seems to be the phone (never make calls other than IP), hard to tell till BBS works with 4.4 and some reboots once in a while - I'm impressed so far.

I'd like to help in whatever way possible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] miseusegau:
with a file manager like root explorer go to system / build.prob and open as a text editor, change the dpi as you want, I suggest to 300

★sent by zio★
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
I want a new build!! I don't want a new build!!.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] newtonfb:
Anyway to get miracast feature built in? Its in all other nexus models?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dirtygoldfish:
And I want a Nexus 5. Maybe if you put a few more exclamation marks you'll get what you want.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hasnol143:
You're my favorite person of the day
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Omar1c:
Awesome comment

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rockingwing:
i want that everyone becomes patient and gives the devs some time!!!!!! (and maybe give them some money for a beer or two)

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Omar1c:
Yes listen to that guy don't ask for new builds they don't have to give you new builds they do it because they want to share there efforts

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youStolemylaptop:
There was a few posts back about replacing 4.4 browser with 4.3 browser and the black boxes will go away. Well I tried it, and it FC's when I open the app. Did anyone else seem to get it working? I'm stumped. Since I use Instagram, Reddit Is Fun, I can't click on any links because they cause a black box. Just posting this to see if anyone got the browser working?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] designori:
actually that doesn't work for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] playenball:
Did you check that the permissions were set correctly on the 4.3 browser apk?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youStolemylaptop:
Yeah, I made sure that I set the permissions. And a couple post back someone uploaded a flashable zip with the 4.3 apk inside it and I flashed it. It still FC's after that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] doomed151:
Have you tried clearing data for the Browser?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youStolemylaptop:
Just tried it. Still nothing. :|
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
You can also try Chrome Beta with this new option:

Chrome Beta includes simpler tab switcher for low-memory phones
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youStolemylaptop:
Is there a way to implement that inside instagram, reddit etc?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gkilah:
If you want a new build, compile yourself otherwise let maintener to release a new build when he think its ready for release.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
To be honest. No idea.... :(

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bradg24:
Could it be that those apps not updated for 4.4 kk yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] youStolemylaptop:
It could be but then Reddit Is Fun is just linking me to imgur webpages. The rest of the app works fine, its just when I click on those webpages there's a big ass black box that stops me from viewing the picture. So the imgur links are related to the browser. Not the app itself. (That's what I'm assuming)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] electro`:
im assuming that this has been posted, still posting it though

http://rootzwiki.com/news/little-nexus-updated-gpu-binaries-found-galaxy-nexus/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrcooter:
So turning fastcharge on doesn't disable dynamic fsync? How do you disable it then? I'm not seeing that option to disable in franco kernel app?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] visaac:
Hi guys,

I am noob to android development. However I am a software engineer well versed in C and Unix.

And i would like to see if i can contribute something to our device.

Is there a link where i can find details on

1. Where to get source code

2. How to set up development environment

3. Any testing environment if possible

4. How to build

Also, would i have to learn any other technologies to be good at android ROM development.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kufikugel:
hey guys

new build is up

small changelog see second post OP

still fighting with surfaceflinger and GPU and GLES 2.0

have fun and report back
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tobiascuypers:
New build absolutely flys! I love it. Can't wait for more to come! Thanks! No reboots and grateful for the Clock customizations!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imam.krismanto:
Great.. please coming,.. Do you already read first post?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ScardracS:
[MENTION=4790322]kufikugel[/MENTION] i'm setting up my computer for build that rom for galaxy nexus so you'll able to build that rom for other devices (if you haven't only maguro)... Could I help you or no?

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
This is a good place to start:

http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html

Feel free to come to our forum (http://forum.slimroms.net/) when you're ready to compile Slim :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imam.krismanto:
hi [MENTION=4790322]kufikugel[/MENTION], how about this news?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47151583&postcount=282
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] paarthdesai:
hehe...everything is legit ;) :D and as you can see with almost 70 user apps installed ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
First, guys please keep in mind that we're most likely are from a different time zone than you are.

We're both from GMT +1, in addition even we have to sleep.

When you combine the two, it can happen that we disappear for a few hours, so please don't spam

the board with the same question over and over again.

Once every 24h is enough.

Second, yes we've seen it, however don't get too excited, those drivers are not really new and it's not clear if they

will be useful at all. We'll try them anyway of course.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akhi24nick:
can some one please put up a mirror of the latest version??

Thanks u :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kufikugel:
some guys asked for building from source. As neb mentioned we have one thread in our forum

http://forum.slimroms.net/topic/61-building-slim-from-source/

good place to see what is needed as well a good place to ask....btw a general hint for all our forum is not bad ;) A good place to centralize all stuff and especially slim stuff

on another note...for kitkat init command you find here

https://github.com/SlimRoms/platform_manifest/tree/kk4.4

currently buildable for 4.4 directly from source is maguro, toro, toroplus, mako, manta, grouper, tilapia, flo, deb and later today hammerhead as well

for all other devices we have in our gerrit 100 of commits right now...but they need more testing.

And of course every contributing help is more then welcome.....as well see 2nd post we have an irc dev channel ;)

cheers

PS. direct building help I do not need...for that I have jenkins and several buildserves our team owns :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nemolivier:
Thank's for the new build. Run smooth here.

I've just notice that the sounds are still the one from JB :) New sounds are great !

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vergaril:
Sorry guys,

when there will be a stable version?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 91franz:
I would like to try this rom but I have twrp.. To change to cwm is it enough to simply flash it with the root kit tool?

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thloe:
have a noob question: i was always on twrp now on cwm. pls how can i make a full wipe? is this wipe data/factory reset AND in advanced wipe davlik cache? i dont find wipe format as in twrp. thanks for answer!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vergaril:
:(

question inappropriate? excuse!

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tb5...:
no the question is very appropriate...

it's so appropriate that it's asked too often, and usually... yields no answers.

just visit the thread daily till you see an update in the op.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dirtygoldfish:
Whenever I do a clean install it involves selecting wipe data/factory reset, and then going into mounts and storage and formatting /system as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
Not possible to say.

I guess so but I never use toolkits.

Factory reset already wipes cache and dalvik.

But you have to go to "mounts and storage" and mount there /system and then format it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lolobabes:
latest build has greatly improved over the the previous ones, gps locks very fast but I am really depressed I still cant make ingress lock its gps! Has anyone having this issue as well? ty
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
Anyone still have random reboots?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dario2106:
2 days I have no reboot

2000mha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bunnycool:
nopeee...

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yup/// download frm this link..and simply flash http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1757146

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why a nexus 4 on galaxy nexus thread!!!! :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fuske:
yes.. i had!

Now i've installed mpokang 1080 kernel so will await results with this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vekhez:
Nope.. But I have had to force 2.. generally when 'heavy' multitasking (being in one app, quickly switching to another, pulling down the notification bar, and switching to my music app). And one when I opened the play store. But these were all on the previous build. (Slim-maguro-4.4.alpha.1-UNOFFICIAL-20131104-1937)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
I flashed mpokang 1080 and bigmem, bootloop.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vbauer86:
how do i change the dpi to normal?

sorry
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
Crtl + alt + del
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barbac666:
In the buildprop, set 360, apply and save, reboot, done.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
320 ^^

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vbauer86:
wheres the option for that?

sorry im kinda new to this
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] carlinho77:
360 ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] barbac666:
Ohhhh, 320 sorry......

depuis mon pHoNe

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Root explorer or other.

depuis mon pHoNe
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
Get a root explorer app, go to system --> build.prop --> change "ro.sf.lcd_density=245" to 320.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] unmystic:
I fixed it a while ago, restoring to first origunal ics, then running an app named fuxckdocomo and then upgrading... Check my other previous posta :) hope it helps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ScardracS:
Ok, I'll build it myself :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ubas90:
Hi guys!

Just a little information. I have read on this italian sitehttp://www.tuttoandroid.net/development/galaxy-nexus-aggiornamento-file-binari-gpu-154649/ That TI release the new binary for gpu of our GN. This wonna say that all problem could be resolved in easy way? ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johrie:
Maybe
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ursus777:
Go back a few sites in this thread an read the posts concerning your question.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stavros3006:
Just go into Developer Options in the Settings menu and at the bottom check Don't keep activities. It's working wonders. Haven't had a reboot for almost 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] navyanup:
Hope dev see this post about linaro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQK1hT9iTk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] naskox:
Hey guys. another noob question, I know how to do a dirty flash, however I will ask again. (Nonsense :D) I am running the 4th Nov. version, with the latests Gapps, everything OK, now with today's build what should I do just flash the rom?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qwertzboy:
Yes. Seems to be more with the last build.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
I honesly dont care :D.

Im glad im running 4.4 with the Emoji keyboard lol. Good job dev. Good job! <3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gautam_nexus:
i am not able to find the emoji's on the keyboard...is there a setting that i missed? i used PA gapps to flash
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] definator:
Little feedback again of the 11/2 build.

Uptime 20h with 1h sot, not a single reboot and71% battery left

Great rom!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
Hmm no. its standard..

I downloaded this ZIP and flashed it too. I got dictionary for swedish lang too.

http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23203820527945350
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gautam_nexus:
Thanks mate...will flash it right away :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dharmabm:
finally decided to give it a try - fully stock with no changes, data only restored from TB, nova launcher, no reboots (only 3 hours now), immediate gps lock. am having the display issues but rotating screen sorta makes it useable but stock browser is useless (known issue), chrome working ok. my only question is, OP says slimcenter and TRDS is included but i can't find it, and only interface option is status bar - am i missing smth obvious?

great work guys, at this rate i may not go back to 4.3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elinho:
You are welcome :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
The op is just the standard template.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bunnycool:
just flash the new build over your old biuld..wipe cache..done!!!!:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] remi_g:
Thank you for the link. Now I can send SMS using the Danish dictionary :victory:

I have been using the room for 4 hours now and beside the orientation glitch, everything is working smooth so far.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] imam.krismanto:
ART runtime compiler running well without gapps, something wrong with gapps?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Jesco-:
you need a odex gapps (source : tested one myself)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] L-ViZ:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-binaries-breath-life-two-year-old-phone.html

is this relevant for kitkat? xD

anyways, sounds good :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] daniil1410:
Can you post a link to the odex gapps that worked for you?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kostas1601:
Guys Im getting way too many random reboots...I've flashed the latest build and I'm running mpokang 1080p kernel...am I missing something?..

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zamzameir:
Someone,plis I need the systemui.apk in the rom.Thank you :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tw1st3d83:
92 pages, so little useful information, including this one ... I do not understand why people spamming the same questions and why it's so hard to read a few pages or use the search ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gautam_nexus:
ODEX Gapps http://d-h.st/users/jfdsmabalot/?fld_id=27561#files
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dudeman1996:
Ingress is working fine for me, GPS locked on instantly. Try deleting the app and reinstalling it?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] K1kk1:
Support the devs and use the stock kernel that comes with the rom so the developers can do something about it, the mpokang 1080p isnt their concern , I run the stock and only thing I have is the black bars, screen glitching and today i only got one reboot and tyst was under heavy load. This rom is soo smooth and good for an alpha...Keep the good work up!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
Please people, use the stock slim kernel and gapps in order to help improve this rom.

If you are going to use non-stock odex gapps to try ART it's seems perfect for me as long as it's to improve stuff here.

But if you are going to use non-stock kernel/gapps just to complain here about bugs... it will be all a mess.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bunnycool:
try to use it in stock rom!!! no reboots here on stock..since first nightly...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Bubble-be:
My only FCs so far are to do with calling App Op.

My example :

1. restrict Titanium in some way to have the Privacy Guard notification

2. select the mentioned notification

3. Settings FC and Titanium is killed in the background

I can access Privacy Guard normally through Settings.

Running Slim-maguro-4.4.alpha.1-UNOFFICIAL-20131106-0339 (edited framework for 36dpi navbar) & Slim_AIO_gapps.4.4.alpha.1 on 300dpi.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AayBedi:
I'm so sorry if it's a repost, good news for g nex users :3

Updated GPU binaries, new life found for the Galaxy Nexus

http://rootzwiki.com/news/little-nexus-updated-gpu-binaries-found-galaxy-nexus/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smjrifle:
Has anyone figured out what to do with GoogleNow not appearing for some people

It does not exist in Settings (In Launcher choose launcher settings and enable Google Now. )
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] navyanup:
how to edit navbar framework ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nebucatnetzer:
Repost is way underestimated, I think I've seen that now ca. 20 times. ;)

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Can you download it trough the play store?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] osm0sis:
AND made an official statement about it. ;) It is truly getting ridiculous in here, and maybe we should call in mod help if people can't follow your simple guidelines.

:good: