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[Nexus 5 General] uh60james:
Check your wifi settings for scanning always available. That apparently actually means always scanning, I unchecked mine and the battery stats actually show when I'm disconnected from wifi now.
[Nexus 5 General] aakashji:
How much time does the battery take to charge?

I had samsung galaxy s which has 1500mah. So when i charge my phone it charges upto 65 from 10 in an hour or so. I dont want to overcharge my phone.
[Nexus 5 General] dazz87:
Nexus is a beast when it comes to charging.....1% every 1 minutes.
[Nexus 5 General] aakashji:
WOW!

I might have to set alarm sooner in the morning.
[Nexus 5 General] stuart0001:
Why? You can't overcharge the phone. When its full it'll just trickle charge to keep it full.
[Nexus 5 General] lalec:
Trickle charging to keep it full unnecessarily consumes some of the battery's finite number of charge cycles before the negative ion suffers mechanical stress failure and the battery fails.
[Nexus 5 General] tvdang7:
Lol.... let me charge my phone when I go to sleep and then set an alarm for like 2 hours to unplug my phone. That's how you should charge your phone duh.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Lol
[Nexus 5 General] stuart0001:
I'd love to read the source documenting this effect.

Personally I value a full nights sleep far above the unlikely event of having to replace my battery a few days earlier.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Yes. Or your ions will die!!
[Nexus 5 General] stuart0001:
Besides, the battery stops charging when full anyway. If you look at stats with battery monitor widget app it shows 0ma once full.
[Nexus 5 General] sbrown23:
Exactly. Lithium-ion doesn't trickle, it stops. Though it may do a top-off charge once it discharges a bit if you leave it on the charger.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
[Nexus 5 General] Loconinja:
Over the last few days I have been getting abysmal battery life from my N5. 5 or 6 hours with medium usage.

It's currently at 28% after being unplugged 4h 48m ago. Screen usage is top, at 28%, but details show that the screen has only been on for 1h 22m.
[Nexus 5 General] Rufufu:
I am always surprise with others battery life. I had the same feeling with my gnex.

With my N5, I think I can't achieve at least 4 hrs screen on time, even without playing.

For exemple, today, I have 80% battery left, with 6h24 since I unplugged the phone, with only 40 minutes of screen on. I have just read some news on play magazines, and read comics with perfect viewer. I set autobrightness ON as I didn't see any battery life improvement as setting it to OFF, and screen consuption is displayed at 30%. I'm on HSPA, no LTE and no WIFI.

Battery drain seems good when the screen is off, but I think I cannot achieve 5hrs of screen on.

How do you guys manage to achieves these screen on times ?!

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Also, do you think HSPA consume more battery than LTE?
[Nexus 5 General] PunchTheLion:
In theory does it make a difference to the battery if the apps are darker? Like say if I switch my apps to have a black background and or night theme?
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
People always boast about how great their screen time is. But keep their mouth shut when it is sucks. It is like a game to some, posting incredible screen shot of their SOT.

I was on gnex too before moving to other device. It was incredibly frustrating when your device is down to 20% by 4pm. Trying to Conserve that last bit of battery.

Nexus 5 seems to be an OK device battery wise. My be because of Kit Kat. Good but not great.

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If it were amoled I think it will help. Burn being Lcd, I don't think it makes a different what background you use.
[Nexus 5 General] Rufufu:
I agree with you, I am fine with my battery life, and for now I have never feel any lack of battery at the end of the day. But I suppose I am a kind of jealous when I see people achieving 6hr SOT.
[Nexus 5 General] lalec:
The article you mentioned validated my point. To quote: "Li-ion does not need to be fully charged, as is the case with lead acid, nor is it desirable to do so. In fact, it is better not to fully charge, because high voltages stresses the battery" which is the point I tried to make. I was answering the first post from my phone and used the term "trickle" because that was the term used by the guy I was answering. It doesn't matter to me whether it is a trickle charge or a top-off charge. There are many kinds of batteries and many kinds of chargers. Different chargers have different methods of balancing charge in multiple cells. The most recent research breakthroughs which promise to extend life of lithium ion batteries have been specifically about applying a self-healing coating to the part that expands and contracts the most during charging cycles (i.e., to reduce mechanical stress). Just because some people have phones and batteries that last a long time no matter how they use them doesn't mean everyone else does. I can leave my old Nokia (Symbian OS) phone on the charger all night and it is so well designed the battery is still good today even though the phone is more than 5 years old and that is exactly how I used it when it was my daily driver. My office laptop battery is still at least 80% as good as it was when it was brand-new 3 years ago even though it spends much of its time in a docking station. I can't say the same about all of rechargeable devices though. I've experienced six battery failures on 3 different personal laptops in 5 years. I've also seen battery failures on iPods and iPhones that spent a lot of time on the charger. Obviously, charging methods do matter at least in some cases. If you happen to have a well-designed charging system then congratulations. I for one will only buy a phone which has an easily replaceable battery and will be careful about how I use it. What you do is your choice.
[Nexus 5 General] tangosierra_:
I've read about this in one of the threads but can't find it now - does anyone experience irregular battery discharge? While browsing the web I can have 2% of my battery drain in like 2 minutes and the next few % goes down really slowly. + the last 20% of my battery seems to drain much faster than the rest although I see nothing abnormal in settings.

Also my on screen time decreased from 5h to 3.5h for no obvious reason. I might have to install BBS though, weird thing is that my setup has remained 95% similar throughout.
[Nexus 5 General] blankoi:
Some thing offtopic. May I ask If I can use a Samsung charger to charge my nexus 5? Cuz my work doesn't allow USB charger, so I have to use my Samsung charger instead. The charger output of Samsung is 0.7amps whereas the output of the stock is 1.2amps.
[Nexus 5 General] hotleadsingerguy:
Incorrect. It's not as if there are 5,000 total cycles and every time the battery hits 100% it's considered a cycle, no matter if it charged from 2% or 95%. It's total recharge, so charging it 50 times from 98% is about equivalent to charging it once from dead.

Then again, lithium ion batteries maintain their best life when they're kept in the 80%-85% range, so charging it whenever you can will make the battery last longer. I plug in my phones whenever I can and after a free years when I sell them they still maintain 98% life.
[Nexus 5 General] Soldier 2.0:
Yes buddy, you can. I use my nexus 7 charger which is 2amps
[Nexus 5 General] deziking:
Make sure to clear data for Google play service I did that and drastic change! But it will reset ur home Screen.
[Nexus 5 General] prawnguevara:
Constantly draining and full charging lithium ion batteries creates the one thing ion batteries hate - heat. Charge wisely.
[Nexus 5 General] GzC:
Nexus 5 is powered by lithium polymer battery, not lithium ion battery.
[Nexus 5 General] tvdang7:
Has anyone heard of disable cacheupdateservice in google play? someone on G+ did it and he said he saw a decent upgrade. Going to try it now.
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
Just read this page. Apple uses easy to understand English, that's why I'm linking to their site.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/
[Nexus 5 General] hotleadsingerguy:
You realize that's *exactly* what I said, right? Charging it once from 0% to 100% or 50 times from 98% to 100% is the same -- 1 cycle.

The other point was that Lithium Ion batteries maintain their best battery life when they're kept around 80% total charge.
[Nexus 5 General] crislevin:
Lol, why don't you check your reference again?

Plus, Li ion and Li polymer are same battery technology with layer putting multiple cells together. Battery maintenance is the same.

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It is still being held at high voltage, 4.2v, which is not good for it.

And it's not several days more life, battery doubles with each 0.1 lower voltage you can keep it at.
[Nexus 5 General] :
My Another silly debate. 99.999 percent of people plug their phone in and leave it overnight or until it's 100 percent. I've owned 4 smart phones and never had a battery fail.

You want to set your alarm to unplug it at night or only charge to 80 percent... Great! Have fun.

Can this ridiculous debate be closed??? Lol

Sent from my cellular telephone

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Oh... And drills. Lithium batteries. You put your dead battery on the charger and take it off when the light says full. The manufacturers dropped the ball on that too???

Sent from my cellular telephone
[Nexus 5 General] Wutang200:
Fully charged my N5 to 100% on 26/11/2013 roughly about 20:30 and it's still got 50% remaining!

This is with my WiFi and sync on almost all day every day including bed time. Just general usage such as texting, emailing, streaming music to my car via bluetooth, etc. Although I have my screen brightness on the lowest setting almost all the time. Light data use when I'm not at home where I'll turn my data on and then turn it off when I'm done. NFC is always on too but is a pointless feature to me as I never ever use it.

I'm using completely stock Android unrooted.

SOT is 1h 30m so far.

Phone has been on for 1d 10h 41m.

Very impressed so far.
[Nexus 5 General] Crazy32:
Sounds good for me. i will get my N5 at christmas :) so i hope i can use the n5 for more than one day with normal use. normal use for me is some texting with wahtsapp, reading some news and hear music.
[Nexus 5 General] akash3656:
If you said something to that effect, then it is my bad. Guess I shouldn't be reading too much xda before I sleep.

Btw, is there any app there on Android that can determine how many charge cycles we have reached?

I know a jailbroken iOS device can show the stats with a special app. Apple laptops show it somewhere inside System Information.
[Nexus 5 General] dannstarr:
i was looking at this too, but the connector from the battery to the main board, or i should say the lead, comes out of the wrong side of the battery... not sure if the actual connector may be different too, so IF it were possible, it would be very difficult
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Yes, I know what it says. But Google reportedly told several news organizations yesterday the real reason was the TI issue.
[Nexus 5 General] MattSkeet:
Who you are going to believe?? A gadget blog that will do anything for a click or actual company that supports the device.

To me explanation on google webpage is absolutely ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. Why google would not put that TI is no longer supporting this CPU i have no idea. It upsets more people to say sorry we just cant be arsed to support your phone rather than blaming other company. Hope you know what I mean
[Nexus 5 General] Lewythefly:
The battery in the g2 is also stepped and a lot bigger so would not fit inside the n5 chassis
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/...exus-will-not-be-upgraded-android-4-4-kit-kat

The two statements don't contradict each other. However, I don't think Google wanted to bash TI on their official support site. Yes, it is outside the window but there was little motivation to take on the project to upgrade the GN given they would get zero support from the chipset manufacturer (which means no official drivers).
[Nexus 5 General] schewie:
Me too

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] Whyzor:
GNex wont' get 4.4 because of out support 18 month window. No engineering resources to work on phones 2 yrs older when they're busy fixing bugs & support newer devices. It's how technology business works. It probably can still work via CyanogenMod who updates their source code to latest AOSP Android 4.4. As for Android 4.4 being low memory hog capable of running on 512 MB, this is for new OEM designed hardware that uses Android 4.4 from the start, not old released hardware, that still takes people resources to debug & port the code to work on it.
[Nexus 5 General] Alfonso87:
Can we pls remain in topic? thank you
[Nexus 5 General] tim440:
Me three.
[Nexus 5 General] MattSkeet:
Really iVerge??
[Nexus 5 General] MaxCarnage:
The Nexus 5 will be a battery miser thanks to new Qualcomm tech

http://gigaom.com/2013/11/01/the-ne...eed&utm_campaign=Feed:+OmMalik+(GigaOM:+Tech)
[Nexus 5 General] lalec:
Resolution is much better than the yphone 5s and has triple the number of screen pixels. The yphone does have a better camera though if you are one of those types who thinks the phone's camera is its most important feature.
[Nexus 5 General] shr33kant:
I got some battery screen shots for you all ^_^. First I started by charging the device up to full and started the test: This is including a bit of connecting the phone to the PC to transfer a few things, unlock bootloader, root the device, downloading all my apps, setting up everything, some voice calls and a bit of NFS:Most Wanted to drain the rest. All sync was on, Google now was on, location reporting was on.

Colour me impressed because I didn't think it would last this long at all.

Going to attach them in a minute once I attach the USB :D

Edit: Screenshots taken at about 9%
[Nexus 5 General] Lucke:
i'm used to getting about 23-26 hours on a charge for my N4, so the increased battery size plus 4.4 optimization should certainly lead to even longer times for me... so i'm not at all concerned about battery life :D

that is pretty impressive...
[Nexus 5 General] Fille84:
Not that impressive if you ask me. 3hrs screen on time?
[Nexus 5 General] Tung_meister:
Mine has just hit 9% with 2h 40m screen time, during which I've had navigation on, installed over 100 apps, browsed the net and done some intensive gaming (dead trigger 2 etc). I'm very impressed, I never expected anywhere near as good battery life as this!
[Nexus 5 General] shr33kant:
If you consider how bad my signal was for majority of the day as well it's even more impressive... Google have done something truly magical with this one. I think all my previous concerns regarding battery have been dashed to say the least. OT: this phone cooled down REALLY fast after I stopped gaming.

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You fail to realise that things other than screen on time affect battery. For example voice calls. Any moron can put their phone on lowest brightness and get high sot while performing a non processor intensive task.
[Nexus 5 General] jarjar124:
The fact that he was playing games is impressive. Much better than the n4
[Nexus 5 General] the1onewolf:
I think alot of the Nexus 4's issue was with the early build of 4.2 wakelocking the crap out of the device and of course the perennial google currents.
[Nexus 5 General] jasonlu1992:
Absolutely, and I have another galaxy s4, so I don't really care about camera. Plus nexus 5 has OIS, witch iphone doesn't have.
[Nexus 5 General] jasonlu1992:
wow, that's impressive! And thanks for the screen shot
[Nexus 5 General] ashkan_mc:
This battery life is amazing. 1:45 voice call plus location on plus very bad signal reception plus gaming and with all these you have more than 3 hours SOT.

If all these happen to N4, you would be lucky to have 2 hours SOT.
[Nexus 5 General] supersain08:
This was on wifi.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I was hoping to see a minimum of 4-5 hours on screen time after hearing how efficient the new processors are. I really hope these first showings do not represent the norm. I am getting tired of only 3 hours on screen times....Don't preach battery efficiency and give us the same benchmarks time and time again.
[Nexus 5 General] trincisor:
Thanks for the screen shots.

Would you mind taking some without game usage.

The adreno 330 is very power hungry compared to the rest of the soc . probably because it is the first generation and they haven't optimized for power. Better drivers in the future might help.

This is probably one phone where u would not enable force GPU, the CPU is powerful enough and the GPU is a battery drain.
[Nexus 5 General] shadowcore:
Yes, because efficient processors are going to increase ON SCREEN time, on a FULL HD phone with 5 coll diagonal.

The only thing that increases on screen time is bigger batteries or low backlight brightness and heat generation.
[Nexus 5 General] oupavoc:
Did anyone read this article :)

http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-5...101/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
[Nexus 5 General] elementaldragon:
If you're referring to the guy who just posted the screenshots, you also have to go back and read just how much he was doing.

"This is including a bit of connecting the phone to the PC to transfer a few things, unlock bootloader, root the device, downloading all my apps, setting up everything, some voice calls and a bit of NFS:Most Wanted to drain the rest. All sync was on, Google now was on, location reporting was on."

It wasn't like he just sat there browsing the web or playing music to drain the battery. He basically spent the whole time setting the phone up to his liking, AND installing all his apps, AND gaming a bit, AND talking to people.

As for the whole thing about whether it's because the phone was past the 18-month support window, or if it's because of TI no longer being in the mobile chipset game, it's probably more to do with the latter. The 18-month support window statement is probably made simply because i don't think a lot of non-techy people would understand what it meant if their site said "The Galaxy Nexus will not receive the update to Android 4.4 KitKat due to Texas Instruments no longer being able to provide support for the CPU in the phone"
[Nexus 5 General] jamesindc:
The battery life is going to be horrible. What a waste...
[Nexus 5 General] KrazyAttack:
0/10
[Nexus 5 General] Warrimonk:
If the battery life is at least 90% as good as the HTC One, I think it will be good enough. I definitely think this is doable thanks to envelope tracking radios and the audio DSP.
[Nexus 5 General] ethantarheels123:
let's hope that when devs get to work on this device, the kernels they cook will boost battery (which hopefully they should as they almost always have on other devices).
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgenapper:
Based on the teardown, and the leaked service manual for the Nexus 5, would it be easy to replace the battery on this phone once it starts to go bad?
[Nexus 5 General] Soldier 2.0:
Link please?
[Nexus 5 General] mdandashly:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CF4Z6UI/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

mistake on my end, its 4000 mah
[Nexus 5 General] aohus:
from what I read it's best to charge the phone normally and not via Quickcharge mode.

i'm quite impressed he got 3 and a half hours of on screen time with basically terrible signal in the background. yes he had wifi enabled, but his signal was weak except for a small portion of his day, on top of the taxing activities he did to setup the phone.

i also don't game much so I can probably see this phone getting 4+ hours of on screen time. If that's the case, this phone is a keeper for me.
[Nexus 5 General] tvdang7:
I want 3 hours ST on LTE and I'll be happy.
[Nexus 5 General] L1lyksd@ddy:
Have no fear, Mr. Franco is already in the house!
[Nexus 5 General] Emama:
I am waiting to see a real battery test report from gsmarena or Anandtech
[Nexus 5 General] shr33kant:
New Day - New Test ^_^.

I'm also curious as to what the websites like Anandtech and gsmarena come up with. The random test I did wasn't particularly scientific in it's approach; I just used the device as I normally would after opening a shiny new Nexus ^_^. I'll start the test again today at 8am GMT and we'll see how it goes.

Today's test will include some more normal usage like phone calls, use of google docs, listening to music through the loudspeaker (about 2 hours) and some other random usage from the Mrs. since her's has been ordered from Carphone Warehouse and I decided to just get mine from the store yesterday (ha ha, who's laughing now); so possibly gaming and stuff because she's upgrading from a Galaxy SII and is likely to be in shock and awe at the performance of the N5.

If there's some charge left before bed time I will try to drain the phone using Dead Trigger or NFS: Most Wanted and post some screenshots again.

I'll also post the details page of the items significant battery usage as before with the voice calls etc,.

I'm going to be leaving the phone on Auto-Brightness, All syncs on, Google Now on and the same location settings as yesterday, and the Rom is fully stock, rooted with busy box.

See you all later :).

Edit: All calls will be made through a bluetooth headset.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Mine so far and at 53 percent. Should hit 6 hours hopefully.
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
Brightness ?
[Nexus 5 General] :
Auto brightness
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
Can u compare your previous phone battery life whit this one.. ?
[Nexus 5 General] G1_enthusiast:
can someone do one without wifi? jsut use network all day, I dont think any test with wifi is truly correct since, wifi means u just sitting home most of the time not using as much power as network mode. a phone should last you all day on network mode.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I had a G2.. I use constantly until ive lost 10% and then note down the screen on time. The G2 did just under a hour something like 58 minutes screen on. This was 35 minutes in that time if that makes sense. Expected as the G2 has gram and 3000 battery. Battery on this so far is better than my old s4 and HTC One. Can only improve as this is the first charge.

Will post my final results soon when I kill it off.
[Nexus 5 General] italia0101:
Sounds cool, will that be included in the next ota ya think?
[Nexus 5 General] dannstarr:
It wont be in an update, its something the phone already has
[Nexus 5 General] italia0101:
Oh sweet, it's early. Brain not in gear yet :P
[Nexus 5 General] jasonlu1992:
Sorry, haven't got device yet
[Nexus 5 General] Fille84:
How long does it take to fully charge? It really sucks if it has horrible battery life and then it takes like 4hrs to charge.
[Nexus 5 General] Michealtbh:
So far so good, been on wifi with light forum and reddit browsing all morning
[Nexus 5 General] :
21% left and check my screen time and on time and crap signal. I'd say battery life is fine. On WiFi and first full charge.
[Nexus 5 General] jarjar124:
This is with Google Now on? How about sync? If it is, I'm pleased :)
[Nexus 5 General] :
Yes on and sync. Location background turned off though.
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
Thank for the screen. That is about an hour shy of my G2. Impressive!

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] :
Past 5 hours screen time.
[Nexus 5 General] Shudder123:
Looks very promising. Even better then my s4 running slimbean with custom kernel and a bigger battery. Gonna keep my eyes on this device!
[Nexus 5 General] G1_enthusiast:
wuh?
[Nexus 5 General] fkloznica:
Probably the lowest brightness 90% time,because you are at home and whit auto settings.. ?
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
Yes please, could somebody answer this? the G2 charges really fast! is it the same with the Nexus 5? :confused:
[Nexus 5 General] :
Auto brightness and no it's been up and down. Battery life is fine on this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Enddo:
this is not in the N5