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[Shield General] Tanner_Brake:
Gamestream screen opens, but nothing happens.

I haven't added any custom links, just using the GFE ones. When I open a game, it eventually pushes me to the Gamestream screen, and then nothing happens. I have left it alone for up to a half hour after the streaming starts. I have tried the included Steam link along with some games from other launchers.

I am using the Nexus 7 2013 on rooted Lollipop, with the newest Limelight rooted beta.

I am using 2 gtx 970's and have tried both sli and single gpu. I am on the newest GFE with the newest drivers. My games are on a secondary drive while steam itself is on the boot drive.
[Shield General] nk33:
Squash the beef guys! Forget about it
[Shield General] scaravella:
Having issues with streaming above 720P and 30FPS

Hello All,

I am having some issues with getting better streaming than 720P and 30FPS. I feel I have a very nice setup and it should be able to handle the max easily. My guess is my hardware is correct and maybe I need to tweak some settings to get it better. I have the following setup below. Can someone please help me figure out why I cant run better streaming. Even at 720P at 30FPS it stutters once and a while. I have tried this on 2 tablets and my Samsung S4 phone and they all do it so my guess is its not the tablets. When I try the 1080P @ 60FPS it gives me a message of lost packets. I would really like to have a smooth experience at better settings. Any help would be great. I was debating if maybe I lowered the settings of my game if that may help? I am playing Dragon Age Inquisition on Ultra. Maybe that takes to much out of my Graphics card and it cant then push 1080P to my tablet? (not sure if this is a real issue or if its all network related)

PC:

i5 4690K 3.5GHZ Processor

8GB RAM

Nvidia 760 Graphics Card

Hooked up via Ethernet cat6 cable

Router:

Netgear R6300 capable of up to 1300Mb/s

my internet is via Comcast and it runs at 50Mb/s Down and 10Mb/s Up

I have gone in and opened up the ports that are recommended

I stream to my Tablet:

Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2

Using Limelight Game Streaming

Wireless to 5.0GHZ from router
[Shield General] John6670:
Good question. I have a weaker set up with a 660m and an i73630qm. Even IF I hook my laptop to my apple airport extreme router (latest one) via ethernet, i can't seem to get 720p60fps. only 720p30fps or lower quality with LL when streaming onto the Shield Tablet.

with Shield Gamestream I get 60, but with frame drops. Awfully weird since the laptop can handle stable60fps for the games i've tried.
[Shield General] androidyeah:
Hello,

first of all thanks to cgutman for making this awesome application.

I have some weird problems while using limelight on my FireTV. So basically everything is working fine, but I have this weird delay. I'm sitting in my living room, having an eye on my computer where the game is running. It's very smooth and the controls from my FireTV (FireTV Controller) are coming in instantly and the movement is very good with the eyes on my computer. However, on my TV where the FireTV is running, I have a short delay, like I'd guess 100-150ms? It feels laggy and in fast pace games where the timing of some buttons are required, it's hard to get them right.

I tried Software Encoder and Hardware Encoder in all resolutions and frames per second. None of it changes anything. Both devices are connected directly to the router on GB-Lan

I'm running the game on a AMD FX 8520 and a GeForce GTX660 OC. But as I already said, the game is running smooth on my computer.

Is this issue related to the hardware limitations of the FireTV?

Thanks in advance
[Shield General] cgutman:
Is this a Fire TV or a Fire TV Stick? What version of Limelight and GFE are you using?
[Shield General] androidyeah:
Normal FTV and GFE 2..1.4 and limelight 3.0 (also tried the firetv stick test build you made a few days ago with no luck.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Try downgrading to GFE 2.1.3. I have a link to instructions in the first post.
[Shield General] androidyeah:
Oh I have that. Sorry for the typo..
[Shield General] nk33:
Any way to change from grid view to list view in Limelight list of games and/or pcs? I find grid view incredibly annoying

Thanks in advance
[Shield General] cgutman:
What does the latency message say after you finish streaming? Is your TV in game mode? My TV adds ~100 ms of delay if it's not.

Not currently, besides downgrading to 2.9.0.1. I'll put on my list of things to add.
[Shield General] androidyeah:
In Software Encoder it says a few ms. Between 2-5ms usually. With Hardware Encoder it's about 50ms. However, the delay/lag doesn't feel much different between Software and Hardware Encoder. TV is in gaming mode and doesn't seem to affect anything. I also tried it on 2 different Televisions with the same outcome.
[Shield General] Milardo:
Hi John6670,

Let me try to help, can you post a screenshot of your geforce experience-gamestream settings? Also, i am getting the same issue with the steam logged in another computer message. I didn't have this issue before. Are you gamestreaming locally or over the internet? Are you using 64 bit win os? What version of gfe and graphics driver are you using and what version of limelight are you using? Do you have a tablet or phone other than shield based that you can try with limelight? Also for your 30 fps problem, how did you determine that's its only running at 30 fps? This is when choosing like 720 60fps in limelight, you still get 30 fps? Also, i don't know, but have you tried adding mstsc.exe from either system32 or syswow64 for remote desktop? I found i could use nearly every application from my pc that way on my tablet.
[Shield General] bluegizmo83:
Not sure what you did to improve the latency with limelight, but I love it!! I've been using limelight for a long time now and my average latency playing on a Nexus 5 with a Moga Pro gamepad over a Netgear R6250 AC router with these setting ( 720p@60 and 10Mbps) has always been around 45ms, which I thought was pretty good. But after the recent updates, using those same settings, I'm now averaging 10ms!
[Shield General] nk33:
I appreciate that mate. Keep up the good work!! It is remarkable how well this app works!
[Shield General] nk33:
Whenever i first click to connect to my pc using the limelight for pc app, it tells me "The Application Is Minimised. Resume it on the pc manually...".

I then have to go into the other pc using splashtop desktop, bring it to the forefront, close splashtop then redo the connection with Limelight pc and it works.

I have tried ticking big screen mode and unticking it - this happens with both on the first time of opening.

is there anyway of getting Limelight to automatically bring Steam to the forefront?

thanks in advance
[Shield General] John6670:
Sure

http://i.imgur.com/OIYmIj4.png

http://i.imgur.com/ktvEJ5x.png

Any other part regarding Geforce that you want me to try out?

Glad I'm not the only one, lol. Yeah it's weird. Could it be steam? Or GFE related on our end?

Locally

My Laptop originally came with Windows 8, 64 bit. Though I recently upgraded to 8.1. I. So yeah, it's 8.1 64bit.

I'm assuming you might want to know my network set up as well. So i'll tell you

Apple Airport Extreme Router in Garage. 2.4 and 5GHz enabled

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-AirPort...7102011&sr=8-1&keywords=apple+airport+extreme

TP link powerline adapters. Two of them to help get ethernet connection in my room(one in garage, one in my room)

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-PA...=1417102066&sr=8-1&keywords=tp+link+powerline

WDn750 Router. 5GHz enabled, and set as an acccess point. This router is connected to my laptop via ethernet

http://www.amazon.com/N750-Dual-Rou...ie=UTF8&qid=1417102141&sr=8-1&keywords=wdn750

I'll tell you GFE's i've used

2.1.4=Broken for me. In terms of streaming(when I attempt to stream, it crashes)

2.1.3 Stable

2.1.2 Stable

Drivers I've used:

344.75

344.60

344.48

344.11

Version of Limelight? The latest one on the google play store, and the one before that. So basically the one that recently shows the Box arts, and the one prior to that(that didn't show it)

Yeah. I have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I tried limelight on there, and strangely have the same problem.

Honestly, what i said probably isn't fully accurate. From visuals alone and judgement, it doesn't seem like the gameplay is at 60fps on the tablet. I've mostly tried out emulators though. Even in Big Picture, the menu didn't feel as smooth, compared to official streaming

Still, so that I can give you a more accurate answer, any good FPS counter apps? with gamestreaming i knew i got framedrops when putting the cap to 60fps, as Nvidia has that built in FPS counter you can use. While with LL it's harder to know if it's locked FPS for me, or if I get some framedrops.

I can show a video comparison if you wish. Where i show the gameplay from the laptop(which is 60fps for the PCSX2 or dolphin games i try) and Limelight.

I've tried this before. I've noticed that when doing this, games in general seem locked to 30fps. Whether its on LL or Gamestreaming. Infact, there are other threads about this.. Seems when you add games or apps onto GFE it's locked at 30fps, unless it's a full PC game

Do you have this same issue? Or notice the same thing? Where you may personally get a smoother experience when going into big picture, compared to remote desktop or adding onto GFE(assuming it's not a PC game)

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-fps-when-running-straight-from-gfe/?offset=1

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...rced-to-30fps-changing-settings-dont-help-/1/

I like both streamers. Seems like if I find out what the issue is, both will be near flawless for me.
[Shield General] hunter99507:
I have a question about controller issues. While using six axis with PS3 controller the controller does not seem responsive to the controls using limelight. I have went back and forth between gamestream and limelight the the controller seems responsive in gamestream but not limelight. It is not lag or latency, i believe it just doesn't feel as responsive.

I dont think its a bug i think it just feels different.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: After playing for a while, trying out different games and using a ds4 and ds3 it seems like the controller sensitivity is too high. It seems fine between the control stick being in the middle and half way, but after it goes from halfway to the edge it is way to sensitive. It makes games hard to play when you cannot control where you are aiming.

Is there a way to fix this? Thanks
[Shield General] justmpm:
Hi Everyone,

I did a little thread cleaning to remove most of the discussion about spamming this thread, demanding help, entitlements, etc. That is really Off Topic and shouldn't be here. If you see something you think shouldn't belong here then please report it and the moderators will come and investigate it. Sometimes even politely trying to adjust some one's attitude can really backfire.

Thanks!
[Shield General] alconchelsegovia:
I get the error 552, someone can help me?
[Shield General] John6670:
Well, since talking to a Nvidia Rep, I managed to get it working. Odd

Basically South Park is an officially supported title for Geforce experience. She suggested I add it to Geforce experience and optimize it. After doing so, i checked the PC games list on my shield, and saw that it didn't replace "steam". Decided to add games onto the "gamestream" section on GFE, and restart both my laptop+shield

after doing so, more games appeared, and they didn't replace the Steam Icon.

And of course, it shows on LL as well.
[Shield General] cgutman:
You're testing on 3.0.1? We're not doing any joystick fixups on 3.x, but we did some on 2.x that caused the joysticks to feel weird to me.

When do you get the error? What version of GFE are you running on your PC? What are your system specs? Can you screenshot the error?

Nice! Glad that you figured it out.
[Shield General] Milardo:
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply,

i was going to suggest adding games to the either the games and/or gamestream section glad you found your answer to that.

The issue with steam being logged into another computer has cleared for me now. Just to mention i do have steam beta updates and update frequently as well and have the latest software for limelight, gfe, and drivers.

wasn't able to find an fps meter for android except "fps meter for android" but it's disappeared from play store and then there is a paid app called gamebench.

I tried using evga precision but that only seems to measure what's playing on my pc and the nvidia fps meter disappears when using limelight.

I really have to say i didn't notice whether or not games were smoother in steam app or adding games without using steam.

I chose 720p 60fps and got different latency then when using 720p 30fps in limelight though.

Ive joined the limelight beta group and using 3.0.1 root version, gfe 2.1.4.1 and nvidia drivers 344.75 you can get 2.1.4.1 from installing 344.75 driver.

using desktop computer with a gtx 680 on wind 7 x64

Does your laptop have dedicated gpu-gtx 660m or optimus?

Have you tried to a higher refresh rate than 60hz on your integrated lcd? Dont know if that will work for your fps issue but you can try it.

I noticed on your screenshot-gfe it says 59 hz?
[Shield General] alconchelsegovia:
GFE 2.4.1.0, Nexus 5, i7 3770k and GTX 970. The error appears when i try to pair the PC.
[Shield General] rdubs628:
Help with Packet Loss

I was hoping I could get some help debugging my latency issues being caused by packet loss.

1. What kind of latency are you having? Input? Video? Audio? All of them? Is the latency constant (video is always behind) or periodic (video sometimes lags behind)?

All. From what I can tell, it occurs because there is too high of packet loss causing A/V frames to be skipped.

1.1 If you're having video latency, what resolution and frame rate are you using? Have you tried different ones? Have you tried the different decoder options?

Currently using 720p30fps and 1Mbps bitrate. I've tried other bitrates and it doesn't seem to change anything.

2. If you're having audio or video latency, is the audio in sync with the video?

Yes, they just both skip at the same time.

3. Describe the connection between your Android/Client PC and the router

For testing purposes I've turned on WiFi hotspot on my PC. My Nexus 5 is directly connected. This has definitely reduced latency, but not packet loss.

4. Describe the connection between your streaming PC and the router

N/A

5. If you're streaming to an Android device, what is the model of your device? What SoC is it using?

It is a Nexus 5 with a Snapdragon 800

6. If you're streaming to a PC, what are the specs of that PC? Most importantly, what CPU and network card does it have?

The PC is a core i7 3770k and gtx670 sli. This may be the biggest issue: I'm using an asus ac56 usb adapter. Would the streaming be affected by the fact that I am using a usb wifi adapter and not a pci-e? My setup is unable to be directly to the router via ethernet, but since my router is not factoring in currently that shouldn't matter right?

Hopefully someone out there has a better answer than me at the moment. :)

Ninja Edit: I am on GFE 2.1.4 and driver version 344.75
[Shield General] jps743231@gmail.com:
I have been having problems with my resolution when playing gta 4 on my pc after streaming with limelight. My graphics for gta 4 are at 640x480. I cannot figure out how to revert this resolution back to regular. I guess it thinks i am still streaming off of a small device.

P.S. Gta 4 is running off of steam.

if you have the answer to this problem please email me:

jps743231@gmail.com
[Shield General] cgutman:
Can you see if this is any better? I'm mapping the square analog sticks to circular ones that XInput expects. This build won't behave well with properly circular analog sticks like Xbox controllers, but I'll fix that before releasing.

EDIT: Fixed build link

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8h66cbm96sli53/limelight-square2.apk?dl=0
[Shield General] retardbatman:
Morning!

Last night & decided to give Limelight a try over 4G, and partially got it working. I know GameStream has been said to work decently over WAN, but I didn't find any solid info regarding Limelight during my (relatively quick) search last night.

I did get it up and running for a while, it occasionally drops the connection initially, but when it's fired up & video has been streaming for ~30 secs I didn't see any more random drops. Unfortunately at this point I noticed that there's up to what feels like a 5 second delay in the video stream. It's perfectly smooth, just very delayed. It works perfectly via WiFi at home, so I just figured I'd ask if you have any tips to speed things up.

Also, I was wondering if there's any more info about using other than English keyboard layouts? It gets a little bit confusing using a Swedish one with an English layout.

I made a post a while back about this but forgot to mention that I was on android, and I think my answer to your question about it disappeared in the rest of the posts.

I'm using a Nexus 7 2013 LTE, CPU overclocked to 1814Mhz, running Paranoid Android & Franco Kernel, both most recent releases. My 4G runs at ~60/30Mbps.

Host computer consist of a 2500k @ 5Ghz, SLI 670's @ ~1200Mhz/Stock memory speeds, 8GB HyperX Fury 1866Mhz & a SSD. Running Windows 7 x64, GFE 2.1.3.0 and 340.43 Drivers.

Thanks in advance & keep up the great work!
[Shield General] hunter99507:
So i tested out left 4 dead 2 and dead space 3 for about an hour. It diffidently feels better but something still feels off. Also it was kinda hard to get a complete impression because of the square analog stick.

Also after thinking into it, it might be how the controller behaves. So for example lets say i hold the aiming stick to the right, then i want to stop aiming so i let go of the stick. That split second from the time the stick is all the way to the right and comes back to the center of the controller may be the issue. So maybe its a deadzone issue? Or it maybe a sensitivity issue.

I dont know anything technical about controllers I just know how they should feel. These are just ideas although im not sure if they are right.

Thank you for your help in this.
[Shield General] miniding:
I don't know why but thé stream works now!! But now thé vidéo is as my vidéo card got troubles...

Any idea why it works now and why I can't read or see anything?

I try 720p 30 or 60 fps... Both szme result
[Shield General] KyleSforza:
Not working with GT650

This doesn't work with GT650M? :/
[Shield General] miniding:
I don't know what of thèse have made it run finally on my Xperia T3 but if it May help devs... Here are thé things I made...

I set to hardware décoder (I tried it when it didn't work...)

I used to have 2 monitor connected to my graph card and now I put the secondary one on the integrated Gpu of my i5

Everything works fine with those!!

Thanks for everybody's help.

Good job and keep up!!
[Shield General] dingochutney:
Sorry if my searching has missed a post that answers this, but is there anything in future developments that's going to align the root and non-root versions for mouse support? Or is non-root stuck with the screen bounds issue? I have a Fire TV which is unrootable (well, mine is) and the mouse is usable with this limitation (certainly Minecraft, which I what I tested), but obviously, in a perfect world I'd take the better solution!

Cheers in advance folks, and once again thanks for a tremendous app, easily my favourite on Android.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Nvidia does say that LTE/WAN streaming works, but even Shield owners have issues with the native app. I can look at tweaking some QoS stuff to try to get priority, but the issue here is bufferbloat on the various routers and switches that the packets pass through on the Internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufferbloat

Can you explain more? You said it felt better but "it was kinda hard to get a complete impression because of the square analog stick." What do you mean by that?

Can you see if either of these versions help?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/oypru5wrgefa2nm/limelight-nobatching.apk?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uu9jcl246zfsltw/limelight-nohistory.apk?dl=0

Unfortunately not. I've tried on and off getting it to work but haven't had much luck recently. The hardware supports it; it's purely a software limitation by Nvidia.
[Shield General] hunter99507:
Ok I tried both versions and i believe that the "limelight-nohistory.apk" apk fixes the issue.

What i ment before is it is hard to test these because anytime you move the control stick diagonally it slows down. The up down left right functions properly but the diagonal doesnt. So for me it was hard to judge on that those 2 axis alone. But im almost positive that the nohistory apk feels perfect (Other than the diagonal issue from which i understand is a dpad thing)

Anyway if it is somehow possible to change the analog sticks to that it would be perfect.

Thank you for your time and help
[Shield General] cgutman:
OK, thanks for your help testing. I've tweaked the logic some more.

Can you try these 2 builds now and tell me which one you like better?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3x5491eirleog2/limelight-nohistory2.apk?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/in2w2tsq9l26789/limelight-nosquare.apk?dl=0
[Shield General] hunter99507:
I tried both and the nohistory2 apk is perfect! I played roughly 45 minutes of left 4 dead and dead space 3 and works perfectly. Thank you so much
[Shield General] cgutman:
Thanks again, here's one more. This should automatically determine whether an analog stick is square or circular and properly scale the square ones. If everything works as expected, it shouldn't be distinguishable from nohistory2.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2wnerxy8ejetezq/limelight-dynamic.apk?dl=0
[Shield General] hunter99507:
Ok i gave it another 30 minutes with the new build. the controls seem great but there is a small area on the thumbstick (top left, top right, bottom left, and bottom right) where the control speed slows wayyy down. It feels like the first build you had me try except the area is much smaller.

I hope I described it well. But as far as the sensitivity and movement in the game i think thats fixed, its just that small area in the corner where it slows way down.
[Shield General] BlueVista:
Excuse me if this is off topic but is it possible to use limelight with a GeForce GT 620?
[Shield General] sadamwibowo:
There are two questions from me.

1. Is that possible if i stream using WiFi without internet connection?

2. I'm using ipega 9025 bluetooth controller. Where do i have to connect it? To my phone or my PC?
[Shield General] miniding:
Question 1. I don't think it's à problem not to habe internet... Why it should be?

Question 2. For my expérience, would say on thé device you'll have with you to play...

Just trying to help...
[Shield General] bseos:
Not working for me. I can see the menu and i can move the cursor around but clicking on any of the buttons doesn't do anything.

I tried restarting both PC and phone after install.

Graphics Card: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 760

NVIDIA GeForce Experience Version: 2.1.4.0

GeForce Game Ready Driver: 344.75 WHQL

Phone: Nexus 5

Android Version: Lollipop 5.0 (Build: LRX210)

Limelight Game STreaming Version: 3.0.1 (November 25, 2014)

Screen Recording:

[YOUTUBE]mbLgRRO_Doo[/YOUTUBE]
[Shield General] bseos:
My bad. Turns out I had a joystick plugged in. Was causing issues with the input.
[Shield General] cgutman:
OK, it seems that GFE might be doing the square -> circle conversion on its own instead. Try this build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hburb3qf2e10grp/limelight-controller.apk?dl=0

Nope, you need a GTX-series card 600 or higher for GameStream (and Limelight) to work.
[Shield General] nk33:
Erm 650 or higher u mean
[Shield General] rdubs628:
USB WiFi Adapter

Does anyone know if a usb wifi adapter would cause heavy packet loss? My setup is great except every few seconds games will become unresponsive and I get a packet loss warning. For testing I've connected directly to my computer (bypassing the router) and the issue persists. I can't find anything else wrong with my setup.