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[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
To expand my experience after some trial and error: I have downloaded the Bluetooth Auto Connect app and with some settings tweaking its possible to use it with Moonlight with no or very little input lag which means its working and is playable now! Sometimes it gets 'laggy' for a second or less but its so much better than without the app. So I can confirm: PS4 controller works wirelessly on Nougat (S7 edge) with Bluetooth Auto Connect with right mapping and very little input lag on Moonlight. It should also work with Stream Theater I guess, not tested.

But isnt it possible to build this 'feature' in Moonlight without needing another app for good wireless connection? The NVIDIA Shield got updated to Nougat and it now supports both the Xbox One S controller and the PS4 controller over Bluetooth. Nougat made it possible to use the PS4 controller. Could Moonlight not use the same software from the Shield to support the PS4 controller over Bluetooth without or very litte input lag, atleast on Nougat?
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
I wanted to say thanks for this great app, really made gaming on a smartphone possible (those Play Store games can't compete with real games). The PS4 controller connected wirelessly with Bluetooth and the Bluetooth Auto Connect app even made it possible to play without cords, but I switched back to wired for no input lag which feels better for FPS games.

I wanted to ask if it is possible to hide games from the GameStream libabry? I can hide them in GeForce Experience but they still show up in Moonlight and I guess also on the original Shield because of NVIDIA logic... Could you build a simple option to hide games within Moonlight, for example by long pressing on the game and having a pop-up window saying 'hide this game'? I want a clean list of games which make 'sense' playing them on a controller. I cant play StarCraft 2 with a controller or many other Blizzard games for example. Older games dont even have controller support. I think this 'feature' would be helpful for many people and (without knowing how to write code) I think building such option would be easy enough for experienced programmers like you. I would be glad if you could add this if you have time and feel like making this possible. Thanks. :)
[Shield General] nk33:
This is one of the reasons I stuck with the old version of gfe (2.x). Its annoying that it scans for games automatically and forces them into the list… I dont wanna see all of them

I found even if you hide them on the host they still appear in moonlight… very annoying.
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
Yes its really annoying, this hiding feature would be handy because I dont want to downgrade to GFE 2.x and many people just use the newest software because of auto-update and that is GFE 3.3 now. This simple hide game option is the key 'feature' I am missing and that alone tells me how great Moonlight is. x.
[Shield General] tiamistiam:
Choose Files

Is there any way to config a GeForce Experience host/Moonlight client setup where the mouse/keyboard is not constrained to the screen being streamed?

Right now the mouse cursor basically gets trapped on the screen being streamed, and I can't move it to my second screen. This applies to windowed games and even just streaming the desktop.

Basically, I'd like to be able to use my second screen to browse/do PC stuff while streaming a game to the other -- have a 360 controller, so would prefer that the game screen just ignores my mouse/keyboard.

Worst case, would be okay with being able to mouse over into the game screen as long as it ignores any input unless I actually click inside it.

Any ideas?
[Shield General] xMajorWintersx:
I have the choice of getting the Shield Tablet or a cheap $200 laptop like HP 14-an013nr 14-Inch Notebook. What would be best as a moonlight client, being used over internet? I would prefer a laptop since I could do more things on it, but I want the best moonlight performance. Any help is appreciated!!
[Shield General] nk33:
I have setup vita moonlight on my ps vita and it works 100%.

One thing i would like to do is change the trigger buttons from being the default (LB and RB) to LT and RT. On the site it says i can download an example config.txt file and ammend it and transfer it to the vita, but when I click on the link i get a 404 error message.

Has anyone got an example config.txt file for this or can provide me with a link to it?

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the best choice as a Moonlight client is always the tablet. you can do most things with the tablet you can do withthe laptop now as well with all the apps.

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[Shield General] Feregorn:
Moonlight is out for vita? Wow, that's cool and worth a try later! But what is the best combo to stream games from:

1) Laptop with i7 4950HQ, 16gb ram, Geforce 960m

2) Desktop with AMD FX 6300, 8gb ram, Geforce 750Ti

And is there any info about moonlight performance on amlogic s912 CPUs featured on latest android TV boxes ?
[Shield General] ricflairandy:
has any progress been made on h265 on nvidia shield?.
[Shield General] KimiBST:
Has anyone tried moonlight with the xiaomi mi pad 2 ?
[Shield General] nk33:
Vita needs to be on firmware 3.60. If you have it on anything below that firmware if you upgrade officially it will skip to 3.63 so you need to change the dns server on your network setup so it gets the 3.60 update and then dont upgrade again because 3.63 patches the exploit.

The exploit is so easy to do as well, you just go to a website using the vita browser and it installs it. There is an offline one as well.

Once the exploit is installed you can ftp any vita game, or homebrew(like moonlight) to it and install it. It also has psp, ps1, snes, sega emulators

As for your question about the specs, you need to read up and compare the processing powers of the processors and mainly the cards. Whichever one has a more powerful card should be the winner.
[Shield General] xrintintin:
Virtual Monitor Android Fork

Wanted to point out this guys fork. Tested and obviously needs some TLC to nail but wow, the app works pretty well even in this shape. Would be a game changer if this could somehow be merged! Maybe assess the feasibility? Thanks.

Reddit: https://goo.gl/awVOfi

github fork: https://goo.gl/26dEPr
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
There are micro stutters with Moonlight on the Galaxy S7 (edge), atleast the Exynos variant. This is 100% Moonlight->S7 related and not network or GFE something else.

See: https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-android/issues/349

I hope this gets fixed very soon. Thanks.
[Shield General] Milardo:
Hi all, i am using shield tv and moonlight app non root with a keyboard and mouse attached and using mstsc.exe for remote desktop. Problem is, i cannot find a way to quit moonlight application? ctrl shift alt q doesnt work at all? no buttons on shield tv controller work either to quit? I dont know how to quit the remote desktop.
[Shield General] nk33:
If you are launching RDP through moonlight all you have to do is click on it and quit. Simple
[Shield General] Milardo:
Hi click on what? all i have is the my desktop shown on the tv?
[Shield General] nk33:
If you press the home button to take you out of moonlight, when you go back to moonlight it wont take you straight in, when you click on the pc, you can either resume or quit, choose quit. Job done
[Shield General] Milardo:
right however im not sure which button is home button on my shield tv controller. do you happen to know?
[Shield General] nk33:
Mate u have a keyboard, just alt+tab out of it, try a few things till you hit the right thing mate. U will figure it out
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
Anyone with the S7 / S7 edge and think they are getting not a smooth stream with Moonlight, I made some tests with other devices and found out the S7 has problems with Moonlight or vice versa. Look here.

And for those who also think they have problems with frame rate etc. - check out GameBench! With GameBench you can display the FPS on your phone and see if you get constant 60FPS or not. Please post your results here or on github.
[Shield General] Claudino3:
Moonlight Raspberry pi 2 -1080 audio but screen freeze

Hello and sorry for my poor english.

GTX 970, raspberry pi 2.

Moonlight work well on default conf (720p 60FPS), but when i try to stream on 1080p i can hear only audio and see 1 Frame every 10-15 seconds.

My PC have 1920x1080 resolution, but my TV 1360x768 60Hz.

I tried 1080 on 30FPS, but problem persists.

Thank you in advance.
[Shield General] Reechings:
Wow just found the moonlight software and am blown away at all the options it opens up! I am simply using it right now to stream games from my desktop rig which has a 6700k and GTX 970 to my aging Alienware M17x r4. Playing Witcher 3 at ultra settings on my laptop is wicked and now I don't even have to bother with upgrading it.

One problem I am running into is that when I try to run any Origin based games it instantly crashes the Origin client on my desktop. For reference sake I am using the Chrome client version on my laptop and sorry if I'm only supposed to be talking about Android version here.
[Shield General] Claudino3:
Are you using raspberry 2 or 3?

Do you run moonlight at 720p or 1080p?
[Shield General] Reechings:
Using moonlight chrome extension on my laptop running Windows 10. 1080p 60fps. Works perfect for Witcher 3 which doesn't use Origin but any Origin game, the Origin client crashes on my host PC.
[Shield General] nk33:
The origin game I have is fifa 17 and that works 100% for me. When does it crash? Do you see origin open then it crashes?
[Shield General] Reechings:
Interesting. As soon as I launch the game a message comes up on my host PC saying Origin client has stopped working.
[Shield General] nk33:
i say un ininstall origin, reboot, install latest origin, reboot, then try again
[Shield General] Reechings:
If I uninstall Origin am I going to have to reinstall all installed Origin games?
[Shield General] nk33:
Obviously not.
[Shield General] Reechings:
Sorry for my ignorance, it's just that the games are installed in an origin folder on my hard drive so I wanted to double check.
[Shield General] nk33:
one more thing to check. Have you got any Razer products/software installed?

found this thread here - people with the same issue:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/895900/origin-crash-when-i-launch-gamestream/?offset=12
[Shield General] Reechings:
Don't have any RAZR products but that thread had a few good ideas I'll try. Thanks
[Shield General] Reechings:
Damn tried reinstalling origin and also running as administrator and updated GeForce drivers and origin client still crashes. Also disabled all overlays etc and no dice.
[Shield General] ricflairandy:
Im installing a hardwired connection this weekend. **** the powerline adapters. Its just not playable.
[Shield General] nk33:
I have full ethernet round whole house. Works sweet

Also works well on 5ghz wifi and over 4g.
[Shield General] ricflairandy:
To get 5ghz id need about 4 access points, powerlines are terrible really. Good for a purpose but not reliable enough really.
[Shield General] nk33:
I have 4 access points
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
Moonlight was originally an Android app but somehow the iOS version is much better than the Android version. Even playing on an iPhone 4S with WiFi 2.4GHz it is smooth but playing with other Android devices with 2.4GHz its not. With 5GHz its better (Android) but now there are micro stutter problems on newer devices (mostly with Marshmallow and Nougat). Why do the devs not say that there are problems and that they are aware of them and will have a look how to fix them? I know this is a free app made by people who work on this in their free time and dont earn anything with it and I appreciate this and I want to like Moonlight but it isnt possible to enjoy this on my S7 edge (Exynos variant; Nougat), it is full of micro stutters. I could play it but like I said it isnt 'enjoyable' compared to the smooth 60fps I get with older devices. It isnt a network/latency problem since I made my tests with USB tethering in offline mode and still full of micro stutters while the other devices also operate smooth wirelessly with WiFi. Moonlight needs an update to fix this issue for devices with newer hardware and/or with Marshmallow and Nougat. Most people dont know anything about micro stutters, they just look at the frames and see 'oh I have 60fps, it must be smooth' but it isnt about the framerates but the frametimes, these are important. Thats why most people may not complain because they dont know better. Just look here, many have this problem:

Microstutter Problem - Testing and Results

Nothing but stuttering on Android. Mostly perfectly smooth on iOS.

micro stuttering Moonlight Game Streaming

Microstuttering with "poor network connection" on Android

Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (Android) - Streaming not optimal

If anyone could use GameBench on devices with newer hardware (2014+) and Marshmallow or Nougat and post their results here I would be really happy.

YouTube version of the tutorial how to use GameBench

Text version of the tutorial how to use GameBench

This is how the framerate looks like on the S7 edge:
[Shield General] Ghengis042:
I find myself unexpectedly phone shopping this weekend. Is there any particular set of features that I should be looking for that would make a device well-suited for running Moonlight smoothly?
[Shield General] xamindar:
If I try to stream using moonlight with the host machine's monitor turned off or disconnected, I get a black screen with audio on the stream client. I tried moonlight 8 months ago and it had this bug. Sad to see that it is still an issue today. I guess everyone is streaming with their monitors still connected and turned on? Am I the only person who needs to have his monitor disconnected when he is streaming?
[Shield General] nk33:
my host is connected to my tv with HDMI cable, but my tv is off all the time and i can still stream.

must be an issue with your setup.
[Shield General] xamindar:
Thanks for the response and info. I guess I'll keep looking around for a solution. Maybe it's a Windows 7 issue.
[Shield General] Ghengis042:
This depends on your TV and/or video card. You need something like this dongle (I don't know if this specific one is any good, just looking for an example) to trick your video card into thinking there's an active monitor.
[Shield General] xamindar:
You may be right. Honestly, this should not depend on your TV/Monitor AT ALL. You are streaming to another device. They should not have made any requirement regarding the hosts monitor at all.
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
Edited: Sorry, what I wrote in this post is irrelevant now.
[Shield General] nk33:
100% no requirement for a monitor to be connected to use gamestream
[Shield General] KylarBStern:
Hi, I did a quick search trough the thread and found no info on my issue. I'm using the latest chrome app to stream to a older laptop in my bedroom. I've got a xbox 360 value wireless receiver(unofficial) with 2 official xbox 360 controllers connected. We're able to play rocket league etc and any other game recognized as a streamable game with both pads, but when trying out dolphin/cemu only 1 controller seems to be recognized, is there any way to trick it into seeing both controllers ?
[Shield General] myfinalheaven:
Does anyone else get the issue of the missing SHIELD tab?

I've followed the FAQ and checking for incompatible applications etc , reinstalled GFE and GPU drivers all rebooted a ton of times, it just does not appear.

Do I have to have a shield associated to my nvidia account for it to appear?

Any ideas?
[Shield General] nk33:
You have to have a compatable card to stream to shield
[Shield General] myfinalheaven:
I have a gtx1080, it says Game Stream ready on the right hand side of the settings panel..
[Shield General] eliott94260:
Hi

I think it's a strange question but anyone have lag on shield k1 ? I buy one because I think it's the best device to use gamestreaming but by my experience with it I have doubt

So anyone can share his experience about this device?

Thanks
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
See what I wrote here. I think Moonlight has problems with Android 6.0 and newer. What Android version do you have on your Shield tablet? Someone else with the Shield tablet has also micro stutters (if this is what you mean). The devs really need to look at this. High end hardware has micro stutters while low end cheap old devices are running smooth. Doesn't make any sense...
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
So I received my Razer Forge TV. It had Android 5.1.1 on it. I installed Moonlight and started playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Remastered. It had no micro stutters on WiFi 5GHz. But the response time from the controller / keyboard+mouse was not instant, it had a litte bit of input lag. Then unfortunately it auto-updated to Android 6.0.1 while I was playing CoD with Moonlight..... so I couldn't make any GameBench tests to prove that their was no micro stutters but input lag. Now its on Android 6.0.1. What I noticed immediately is that the response times (input lag) is so much better BUT now it has micro stutters again. And audio delay. Somehow exactly the same as my S7 edge (Exynos) on Android 7.0 Nougat. THIS IS 100% ANDROID 6.0 MARSHMALLOW AND NEWER RELATED, CONFIRMED! Every single Android 6.0+ device has micro stutters! Nothing network, latency or something else related. The only thing which may be network related is the audio delay BUT on Android 5.1.1 there was no audio delay. Why it may be network related? Because when I used USB tethering on my S7 edge (this means no WiFi, instant perfect connection between PC and device with USB) there was no audio delay but micro stutters where still visible. So please devs FIX THIS ISSUE.

Edit:

Android 4.4.2 (ASUS tablet) / Android 5.1.1 (Razer Forge TV)

+smooth video playback

-noticeable input lag

-minimal audio delay (on WiFi)

Android 6.0.1 (Razer Forge TV) / Android 7.0 (Samsung Galaxy S7 edge)

+no input lag

-micro stutters

-minimal audio delay (on WiFi)

Edit 2: Android in general has minimal audio delay problems on WiFi. Gaming with WiFi 2.4GHz works better (not perfect) on Android 4.4.2 (ASUS tablet) than Android 7.0 (Samsung Galaxy S7 edge).
[Shield General] nk33:
I used to use galaxy s6 edge with a moga controller (android 6.0.1). Worked 100% smooth when connected to the access point directly connected to the host pc on 5ghz. If i used one of my other 5ghz access points which was connected to the main switch, i would get stutter and lag.

I am please to say that discovering moonlight for the ps vita has saved me. It is smooth and no input lag, even though its wifi is limited to 2.4ghz only.
[Shield General] JasonS7notG5:
Could you please, if you have some free time, use GameBench on your Galaxy S6 (do you have Android 6.0+ on it?). I know this will take some time to setup but it is not really difficult to do this and you dont need root which could damage hardware or your warranty. You need to download the app from the Play Store, turn on Developer Options so you can tick the USB debugging box and then connect it to the PC and start GameBench PC software. Once you done this you can disconnect it from the PC and now you do not need to make these steps anymore (only if you reboot your phone). If you want to test your device without any network or latency related stuff (so pure hardware, nothing which can disturb the performance) connect your phone with your PC and turn on USB tethering in your phone settings.

Anyone who has micro stutters or not smooth playback and who want this to be fixed use GameBench and post your results here. If you dont do this the devs will not know what the problem is etc. I told them it is Android 6.0+ but when only a minority reports this they think it is a fault by us and not by them (which is wrong, Moonlight needs to be updated/fixed, nothing on our site).
[Shield General] eliott94260:
It's a silly indication but I understand this today

When you're outside (without your local wifi) the video bitrate scale on your home connection upload speed thus if you set a higher bitrate than your upload speed its lag

As simple as that
[Shield General] T_R_I_G_G_E_R_E_D:
Amd equivalent for raspberry pi

I want to run moonlight embedded on my raspberry pi, but i have an AMD card. is there any way of getting this to work with an AMD card, and if not, is there a raspberry pi compatible alternative? thanks :fingers-crossed::D
[Shield General] Reechings:
Looks like I figured out my issue. Sonic Suite 2 (bundled Asus software that came with my Maximus VIII Hero Mobo) was causing Origin to crash. Exited the program from my taskbar and moonlight launched the game fine.
[Shield General] MrPhilo:
Anyone know how to fix the icons not loading up on Moonlight for games on Steam like CS GO, Total War etc? It just does the circle animation and the box is blank, it doesn't effect anything but my OCD is kicking in :P, tried refreshing Nvidia Experience game search etc, doesn't work, wipe data from moonlight same problem

EDIT: Issue fixed, didn't think of searching 'Icon' on the search thing would come up with something
[Shield General] be_vigilant:
Windows 10 GTX 1070 steaming to Chrome on ubuntu 16.10 does not work with hardware assist decoding even though I have the intel mesa drivers installed. Setting the ignore blacklist flag also does not work. Looking forward to you guys ditching chrome and moving onto something else that works in ubuntu.
[Shield General] TacoLoco:
Is it possible to run the game in Background? As I use the PC for Satelite TV, I want to have the possibility to run DVB Viewer on top and stream a Game in the background.. Thanks and best regards!
[Shield General] nk33:
in short....no
[Shield General] SawyerOO7:
In long. You will need Aster Multiseat Software to archive that. Works fine with moonlight, steam inhome or even local play. Its not hard to figure out as the software is very user friendly.
[Shield General] nk33:
Good shout. Never knew this was possible. Looks good!
[Shield General] SawyerOO7:
I use that on a daily basis, kind of computer sharing deal. I usually watch movies at home when my friend is playing my games from his own house over either moonlight or Steaminhome+VPN. There are some bugs where the Nvidia card must be the card assigned to Desktop 1 or else the Nvidia drivers dont load. But that has nothing to do with moonlight.
[Shield General] MrPhilo:
Where do I add port if I have two modem? Like i'm using Virgin Media Superhub 3.0 connected to a better modem Asus, PC ethernet is connected to Asus
[Shield General] nk33:
You have that the wrong way round. The virgin superhub is now your modem, the asus is your router.

You need to make sure that the superhub is in "modem only" mode and then it will allow all traffic through. You then need to forward the necessary ports on your asus.
[Shield General] bodhisattvah:
After a lot of digging and experimentation, I have finally identified a bug. It appears that both the Android and Chrome versions of this app conflate the left and right CTRL keys, and maybe a bunch of others as well (mostly modifier keys like shift and ALT).

Is this the best place to report this, or should I file a bug somewhere else?
[Shield General] diablos222:
Yesterday I updated my Windows 10 PC to Creators Update and moonlight stopped working. It isnt working on both Android phone and PS Vita. I got Firewall disabled and already tried reinstalling GFE. The Game Streaming function is enabled in the settings. Anyone got any solutions?
[Shield General] eliott94260:
attention, after win 10 creator update gfe 2.4 doesnt work anymore ,you must use gfe 3