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[Shield General] nk33:
i dont think that will work very well as with those games you have to be precise. with the mouse at least you know what you're hitting when you tap....with a finger you could f**k up your whole ish!
[Shield General] UUK3:
You're right but on a 10inch tablet with Splashtop it works great. It's precise enough and the game (Civilization-V) supports natively touch. But the problem with Splashtop is it only works on windowed games and not on full-screen. And the framerate is very low so the effects are not really cool.
[Shield General] millerajm:
Mouse and menu button functionality

Just curious, in a non-rooted Galaxy S5, is there a way to set up the right click on my bluetooth mouse to work correctly? Right now it simply acts as a back button.

Also, when im in games, the back and menu buttons have different/odd/no behavior depending on the game. To get back to my app list, i have to hit the home button, and then open the limelight app again. I expected the back button would take me back to the app list, but it doesnt, and usually has no effect.

Thanks
[Shield General] alconchelsegovia:
Now, i get the error 522. This its imposible
[Shield General] hunter99507:
I just wanted to point out a new problem that has occurred with limelight with the new version of gfe.

While streaming now my latency changed from 8ms to 9ms with 3ms of hardware decoding. Those extra ms don't really matter but with the new gfe it introduced a studder.

Before new the gfe it worked perfectly with no studder or lag.

My specs are Nvidia shield portable with wired ethernet in console mode. Gigabit ethernet, 780ti and oc 4670k

I know your busy with stuff and I really do appreciate your development on this app. Thanks
[Shield General] cgutman:
Can you explain more about the stutter? How often does it happen? How long does it last when it does happen?

If you downgrade your GFE back to 2.1.3, does it go away?
[Shield General] hunter99507:
So i just went back and tested it. It does NOT stutter on 2.1.3 but it does on 2.1.4

The best way I can describe the stutter is it feels like a fps drop. Its like when your playing a game at 60fps and it drops to 30 suddenly, the back to 60fps. It happens frequenly in injustice (seems to happen when a lot is going on on screen) with 2.1.4 but not 2.1.3. Also to double check during a gamestream i was watching my computer monitor to see if it happened on the computer itself but it did not. So I can diffidently say that the problem is not the computer, not limelight, not 2.1.3 but the issue is with 2.1.4

Also when I am running 2.1.4 my ping is 9ms and 3ms hardware decoding. on 2.1.3 my ping is 8ms and 0ms hardware decoding (I assume it is 0 because it does not show up)

Also I am running newest limelight 3.0-beta1.01
[Shield General] cgutman:
Can you check if it still occurs on this build? https://www.dropbox.com/s/azfjdovvd24j1cg/Limelight-nofec.apk?dl=0

If so, try using official Shield Hub and see if it has the issue too.
[Shield General] hunter99507:
I tried the new APK and it seems like it works better but still stuttering. My decoding went to 10ms and 1ms hardware decoding.

Also i tried nvidia gamestream and its horrible. It starts at 60fps and after 5 seconds seems like to drops to 30fps the whole time and does NOT bounce back to 60fps.
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
hello, i have same issues with S801 and tergra 4 devices.

before (gfe 2.1.3.0, limelight beta 3)

Device: Galaxy S5

Soc: S801

Connection device to router: wireless AC at 833mb

Connection computer to router: ethernet 1000mb

Controler: connected via bluetooth

Resolution: 1080

Fps: 60

Latency: 31ms

Device: TF701

Soc: Tegra 4

Connection device to router: ethernet 1000mb

Connection computer to router: ethernet 1000mb

Controler: connected via bluetooth

Resolution: 1080

Fps: 60

Latency: 1ms

After (gfe 2.1.4.0, limelight beta 3.0.1)

Device: Galaxy S5

Soc: S801

Connection device to router: wireless AC at 833mb

Connection computer to router: ethernet 1000mb

Controler: connected via bluetooth

Resolution: 1080

Fps: 60

Latency: 50 ms

Device: TF701

Soc: Tegra 4

Connection device to router: ethernet 1000mb

Connection computer to router: ethernet 1000mb

Controler: connected via bluetooth

Resolution: 1080

Fps: 60

Latency: 5 ms

perfomance on tf701 are also excelent but with snapdragon latency on previous version is better

Envoyé de mon K00C en utilisant Tapatalk
[Shield General] nk33:
there is an app called Kainy which has been around for a while now. i used to use it before limelight. Try it out as it gives you access to your desktop but for gaming in particular...
[Shield General] Attreyu:
Mouse improvements

Guys, for mouse improvements you could use FreePie - https://github.com/AndersMalmgren/FreePIE

This takes place instead of the classical mouse, by emulating the accelerometer/gyroscope inside the tablet/phone to the mouse movements on the screen - so it basically transforms your device into an airmouse.

It might help.
[Shield General] martyxng:
How is the streaming going for you now that a few new Fire TV firmwares have been released? I was thinking of putting a new video card in my PC solely to stream to Fire TV w/XBOX 360 controller.
[Shield General] georgcmef:
Limelight for PC disconnecting.

Hello, I am wondering if anyone can help me with the problem that I'm having with limelight for PC. Every time that I pair my My laptop to my gaming system I am able to connect for maybe about three minutes and then it disconnects. Both computers are connected by Ethernet cable to my router.

1. I start fresh by deleting the settings in the user folder of the client.

2. Pair with the server.

3. Enter IP for server and connect.

4. The first connection takes a good min to appear on my client computer. Once connected its disconnects within 3-5 min.

5. I try it again and it connects a lot faster but still disconnects within the 3-5 min.
[Shield General] nk33:
Do you mean you get 3-5 mins of actual gaming, or just get steam up?
[Shield General] georgcmef:
Both, it doesn't matter if I just leave steam up or if I try to start a game.
[Shield General] jpsiemer:
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but on the Nexus Player Gamepad, it would be nice if we could somehow remap the Back button to the start button for certain games.
[Shield General] georgcmef:
Ok I figured out my problem. I had steam running as admin. Once a remove that it won't disconnect. But the reason I had it run as admin was to open games in big tv mode that are not steam games that required admin rights. Now I cannot open some of my non steam games while streaming. Any ideas.?
[Shield General] nk33:
Mate turn off user account control then everything runs as admin by default as long as u are logged in as admin user. Then u wont have to tick that box
[Shield General] BenG321:
If you are rooted, you can do this by modifying the appropriate .kl file on your android device (some info here, or Google for more).

You can make the buttons on any controller do anything you want. On my Ouya controller, I made long pressing the Ouya button be "start" and short pressing it to be "select."

Sent from my LG-D850
[Shield General] georgcmef:
It's already off and my account is administrator. Everything would work if steam could run as admin while streaming and not disconnect.
[Shield General] ace182:
Problem with (error code: 522)

I have a surface pro that I setup to be the client machine(remoter machine to play on) and I set up my home desktop to run the server end(its a Core i7 x99 computer with a GTX 780ti 16GB ram) Everything runs fine at home and Ive been now running the remote end of it at my work. Steam runs fine and I can play stuff but two days in a row I ran into a problem and it crashed and then could not reconnect because I then get the error code: 522. Yesterday this was due to a crash and today it was due to my surface going into sleep mode because I stepped away from the table for a few mins. So my conclusion is that if the client pc losses sync with the host abnormally(as opposed to a controlled disconnect) something goobers up. The only way I could get it to work again was to reinstall NVidia drivers and do a clean install option with them. The only problem with this is when Im not home and this happens I can reinstall but I cant then repair my client(because the software only allows local network pairing)

My question then is what can I do to fix this is there a file that maybe gets corrupt that I could keep backed up that I could remotely replace once I do a clean install so I don't have to pair my device at home, and what is maybe causeing this issue when I loose connection. Also is there a way to remote pair the device?

Thanks in advance

John
[Shield General] bunchies:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] Running this on my nexus player :laugh:

any plans to make a dedicated or improve upon limelight for this device?
[Shield General] cgutman:
If you're talking about improving the video latency, please try this build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kx11mff41ikwbv7/Limelight-profile66.apk?dl=0

Please tell me the latency reported in the message displayed after streaming and what resolution and FPS you were using.
[Shield General] flexxoo:
can i install this version on my note 3 or is optimize only for nexus player?
[Shield General] cgutman:
This version will probably crash on non-Intel devices. If the test goes well, I'll release a new beta with the Intel change added.

You can join the beta group (see my OP) and get the new UI if that's what you're after.
[Shield General] flexxoo:
genius man!!! thank you for this!!!!
[Shield General] georgcmef:
Ok so I tried everything on a android phone to see if it would change anything. When I launch the game straight from limelight it works fine but it still disconnects when I try and use steam as administrator. Is there anyway to launch a game directly from the PC version without using steam?
[Shield General] OoSTARTERoO:
audio is not coming out from my android device...(device's speaker is ok)

1. What kind of latency are you having? Input? Video? Audio? All of them? Is the latency constant (video is always behind) or periodic (video sometimes lags behind)?

ㅡI'm having problem with audio latency...

1.1 If you're having video latency, what resolution and frame rate are you using? Have you tried different ones? Have you tried the different decoder options?

ㅡi don't have any kind of video latency but audio latency and i tried all kind of decoder options

2. If you're having audio or video latency, is the audio in sync with the video?

ㅡ i have issue with my audio.. (audio is not coming out from my android device)

3. Describe the connection between your Android/Client PC and the router

ㅡ i connected my phone with dual band router(5ghz, and 801.11ac)

4. Describe the connection between your streaming PC and the router

ㅡ i connected my streaming pc with utp cable

5. If you're streaming to an Android device, what is the model of your device? What SoC is it using?

ㅡi'm using Samsung Galaxy S5 lte-a(it's korean version wich has 2k display), and it's using snapdragon 805

6. If you're streaming to a PC, what are the specs of that PC? Most importantly, what CPU and network card does it have?

ㅡstreaming pc has i3-4130, GTX650ti ,and network card is Realtek RTL8111C

and sorry for my bad english skill (I'm not native english speaker...)
[Shield General] Zereus:
Hello. I'm using limelight on my rk3188 android tv box. 720p 60frames on 30 ms. Its ok for me.

But i have one annoying problem with my ps3 controller. I'm using the sixaxis controller app. The main buttons work fine. But when i press the playstation button in the middle im leaving the app and get right back to the android homescreen.

Is it possible to change the behavior? I want to start the steam overlay like on the pc.

Thanks for this great app =)

Edit:ok, i just found the trick with selcet + start to start the overlay
[Shield General] jfp555:
Some questions...

Hey guys,

Really want to thank the creator(s) of this amazing app. This is exactly what I have always wanted to do.

I just had some further questions.

1. I wished to know if Limelight allows streaming of the PC's desktop similar to in this video, as well as use of bluetooth mouse and keyboard (explanation in description).

Since I am new user and cant post links yet: search for 'Nvidia Gamestream 1080p/60 Over WiFi on Shield Tablet' in youtube by youtube user 'David Nadler'

youtube.com /watch?v=eYrO70kBr0s (remove space)

2. This question may be very technical for this forum, but here goes anyways. How much will this streaming capability of the server be effected by pci express slot bandwidth. I know this is a very odd question, but for reasons too complex to get into here, lets just say I will be using a 970 attached to a laptop by expresscard slot. Which roughly gives around 75% of the total performance of a full PCI 3 or 2 slot.

For the curious: search for 'DIY EGPU' and go to the link: DIY eGPU experiences [version 2.0] - Tech|Inferno Forums that pops up in google

3. A bit of an overlap with my first question, but which would be a good tablet to use if I want to output to a display as well as have bluetooth mouse + keyboard connected to it. I would also like the ability to have a wired xbox 360 controller attached as well.

4. Is the performance of Limelight on windows PC/tablet comparable to that on android tablets (in terms of lag, features)?

I know these are a lot of questions including one which may be overly complex, but I would incredibly appreciate any answers given and if anyone else has any personal experiences to share.

People over on the Tech Inferno forums are also quite excited about having these questions answered because there is a healthy and growing DIY eGPU community over there which would absolutely love this functionality.

Much thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
[Shield General] cgutman:
1. Bluetooth mouse and keyboard are supported in both root and non-root versions. Without root, the bluetooth/external mouse support isn't really great, because we can't put it in relative mode so it's limited to the bounds of the screen and the Android cursor shows up too. If you're serious about using an external mouse, I'd suggest using the root version.

2. The PCIE traffic will be pretty low. The video stream itself has a bitrate of 10-30 Mbps typically (although it's configurable). That's really very little compared to other traffic on the bus.

3. I think people have had success with the Nexus 9, although I haven't tried one myself. Qualcomm Snapdragon devices have higher latency (especially after GFE 2.1.4). I've got a Nexus 7 2013 and HTC One M8 and games are playable on them, although now there's an additional 30 ms of latency after GFE 2.1.4 (affecting some non-Tegra devices). I'm going to see what I can do about the extra latency but it may be that nothing can really be done for now.

4. This one depends on your machine and the streaming settings you choose. PC tends to do very well at < 10ms latency until it starts being unable to keep up then latency rockets to > 100 ms. For 720p30, PC tends to have better latency than most Android devices. I think Windows can comfortably handle 720p60 and 1080p30, but OS X struggles at 60 FPS because our rendering method takes longer. 1080p60 requires a higher performance computer, although not a top of the line machine. A current or last-gen Core i3 should be able to handle it. These are just my experiences though, YMMV.

Regarding features, PC definitely lags Android. The PC version always launches Steam Big-Picture rather than allowing launching games directly. PC also lacks the ability to automatically quit games and to use Wake-On-LAN.
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
gamepad with 64bits games

Hello is there a solution to play a 64bits game with gamepad like moga pro or xbox360 controller ?
[Shield General] rovgo:
I've finally got around to upgrading my previously crappy home LAN with a decent wireless ac router, and can now finally enjoy game streaming as well! Thanks for this!

Just one thing, even though it works very decently now, there is still a bit more latency than I hoped there would be. Upon exiting I usually get something around 60 ms average client side latency, with 55 ms hardware decoder latency. Does this mean that from the 60 ms, 55 ms of latency is due to the hardware decoding? If that is the case that seems to be rather high, or am I reading this wrong?

I'm using an Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact as a client device.
[Shield General] reborb:
Thanks to the developers for the great work! :good: (when donate button!?)

I would like to play Pro Evolution Soccer 2015 via Streaming, but the controller doesn't work...

It just doesn't respond to any button / direction. I have tried two bluetooth controllers.

In the config there are two input methods (Direct Input & XInput)

Direct Input: In windows Works with any controller

XInput: In windows it's supposed to work only with xbox 360 controller (mine doesn't work on w8)

I have tried some more games and they work perfectly: gauntlet, portal...

Is there anything more I can try?

Thanks in advance! :o
[Shield General] nk33:
I am having the same issue with far cry… anyone got ideas?

All my other recent games work fine… Cod Advanced, Assassins creed unity etc
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
Same issue with far cry but the last patch (1.02) add gfe support... If someone can tell us if that works with 1.02...

Envoyé de mon SM-G900F en utilisant Tapatalk
[Shield General] the_mentor:
Thank you for this amazing application.

In my old galaxy s3 everything works flawlessly but on my new oneplus one running CM11 with the snapdragon 801 processor. I am getting a very high hardware latency.

I've tried to set the decoder to force hardware with no success.

Any ideas how to address this issue?

Edit: I forgot to mention I use 720p-30fps and 1mb bitrate
[Shield General] nk33:
Installed patch, gamepad still not working
[Shield General] cgutman:
GFE 2.1.4 and increased video latency

In addition to making the change causing the SSL handshake failure in GFE 2.1.4, Nvidia also made a subtle change to H264 encoding parameters that is causing higher latency. H264 was designed to support fast parallel encoding and decoding. One of the ways it does this is via slices. A slice is a region of the screen that can be decoded (or encoded) independently of other slices. On versions of GFE before 2.1.4, the frame was sent with multiple slices. Slices could be decoded in parallel on the device's video decoding hardware. This translated into less video latency because the hardware was able to spread the load and each slice was a small portion of the full picture. With GFE 2.1.4, they're no longer using multiple slices per frame. This means any parallel capabilities that decoders have cannot be utilized, resulting in higher video latency. Not all decoders rely on slices to be performant, but many do.

If the additional latency is a problem, you can downgrade to GFE 2.1.3 (without downgrading your drivers too):

1) Uninstall "NVIDIA GeForce Experience" in the Add/Remove Programs control panel applet

2) Reboot your machine (important!)

3) Install using the old GFE 2.1.3 installer from here

4) Reboot your machine again to be safe

5) Optional: You can turn off auto-checking for new GFE versions by opening GFE, going to Preferences -> Updates, and unchecking the "GeForce Experience" checkbox

So far the list of known affected devices:

Qualcomm-based devices (at least through Snapdragon 801)

Known unaffected devices:

Tegra 3, 4, K1

Intel Atom (Moorefield)

Samsung Exynos 5

Broadcom

Hopefully this addresses many of the recent posts about increased latency.
[Shield General] kill_dano:
ANyway to open the steam menu in game with a moga power pro?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Start + Select should work. Last time I checked, it only worked if you launched the game from Big Picture though.
[Shield General] kill_dano:
yeah, not working for me.
[Shield General] kill_dano:
Just wanted to add my data to the collection: Galaxy S5 on netgear nighthawk router: 40ms lag on GFE 2.14 and 30ms lag on GFE 2.13
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
hi, try to disable totaly 2.4ghz band of your router. power on bluetooth AFTER wifi on your smartphone and you're havent any lags

Envoyé de mon K00C en utilisant Tapatalk
[Shield General] kill_dano:
My 2.4ghz is disabled. aint nobody got time for that
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
This is just a hint , now keep your lags and fend for yourself

Envoyé de mon K00C en utilisant Tapatalk
[Shield General] Gonik:
I'd like to add something... My Nexus 7 is working with limelight (although with no sound), but my Ouya still displays this error. [MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] any news on this?
[Shield General] cgutman:
You'll need to sideload the latest APK on your Ouya. They haven't yet approved the version that fixes the handshake issue.

APKs are here:

https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-android/releases
[Shield General] nk33:
so why is it that we have to use 5ghz wifi and cant use 2.4ghz?

If i use 2.4ghz, even when right next to the access point, and lan speed is at least 50mb, i still get lag and distortion?

it doesn't make any sense...is interference from other networks so bad that even though you are getting 50mb, you can't set limelight to use 10mb and have a decent gaming session..?
[Shield General] rovgo:
Just dropping in to say that downgrading GFE from 2.1.4 to 2.1.3 as described earlier definitely helped reducing the latency issues I had on my Z3 tablet. I went from about 60ms to 25ms (with 22ms hardware decoder latency). Not perfect yet, but it'll do :D
[Shield General] death_entry:
Put the hub into modem mode and use an AC router, tbh I cba to buy a whole new one just to try it out :p
[Shield General] nk33:
Sorry mate, who's your answer intended for?
[Shield General] scaravella:
New to everything PC!

Hello All,

I am new to PC gaming and built my own pretty nice PC with a friends help. I have an Asus tf300 tablet that I run limelight off and it works decent. My issue is the controllers. I have a Nyko Playpad Pro but the buttons don't seem to work correct. For example on Bioshock it plays the voice recordings that you pickup throughout the game every time I backup! The controller settings are set to do this off the D Pad but do it off the left stick as well! This gets very annoying, and ruins the experience having this noise going off ALL THE TIME! Being the only fix I know, I decided to just use the wireless Xbox 360 remote I have hooked up to my pc while about 15 feet from my pc in a different room. This way the controls all work like they should. The issue I am having now is that randomly the controller stops responding. I was playing Batman last night and the controller wouldn't shut off or anything, and still showed being connect, but all the buttons just stopped responding. I had to pull out the battery back and put it back in every time. It would then work again for about 20 min and then stop randomly. What could be causing this?

Also, is there a way for me to get the Nyko Playpad to work like it should? How do I get the buttons to do what I want, and now what every they want. I tried to change the controller layout on the games menu but that didn't fix it.

Thanks in advance!