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[Motorola Photon 4G] ericdabbs:
If your friend just kept it stock the whole time, chances are that it is 2.3.5 which means you cannot flash to CM 10.1. But either way you need to contact Sprint so that they can update the MEID of your friends device to be tied to your account. You can do this over the phone but to me the bigger concern is whether you can flash it or not. At this point, the Photon 4G is at end of life support. Personally I am so sick of Gingerbread and I can't wait until my LG G2 comes hopefully by the end of this week or early next week so I can get some triband LTE and ditch Wimax forever.
[Motorola Photon 4G] br0adband:
Are you asking if you can use it with some other provider? If that's the question, the answer is yes by flashing the Japanese (KDDI) radio it will unlock the GSM capability then it can be used with AT&T/T-Mobile/etc, any carrier that uses a SIM card. No need to keep using Sprint with the Photon, basically, there are options available.

As for using something newer like Jelly Bean or even Kit Kat, I doubt we'll see any more development than has already been done over the past 2+ years now. The Photon is a nice device for its time but, it's long past its prime. If you can get another one for $25 I'd say go for it since you already know the limitations of owning one as long as the replacement one is in good condition, etc.

If you like the Photon, stick with it, if not spend the money towards something more current.
[Motorola Photon 4G] stonesaber:
Th3Bill is back and is gonna try to get 4.3 and 4.4 working on our Photons. So it's not quite dead yet!
[Motorola Photon 4G] br0adband:
Yah, I know, and it's capable to a degree especially Kit Kat which should run well on lower spec devices. Thing is, people need to realize when Google says "lower spec devices" they mean BRAND NEW lower spec devices which are way more powerful than lower spec devices that are 2+ years old so... ;)

While the Photon certainly has some life left in it, the (still) locked bootloader for most people is still going to be too problematic to do anything serious with the device unfortunately. I just had a chance to get one in great shape earlier for $50 and passed on it, I'm not interested in doing this whole older hardware thing anymore.

I had a Galaxy S4 Active recently and ended up selling it, it's the best smartphone I've ever owned (of over 40 in the past decade or so) and now I'm missing it something fierce. :p
[Motorola Photon 4G] ronj75:
out of curiosity since the photon has been gone for a while and not produced. if i was to do the insurance replacement for $100 what phone would i get back?

would they send me a used/refurbed photon back? or upgrade me to a different phone?

I've heard of people doing insurance claims and they get a choice of phones to pick from (not a top of the line though).

What would you suggest i say at the sprint store to find out if theres a different phone option?
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Maybe a bit early but I am sure others must wonder the same thing:

We have android 4.3 based roms (despite 4.3 has not been released for our phone). - Personally I am super appreciative of this and think this demonstrate the coolness of android community development!

Now with Kit Kat released and looking super intersting (in particular the promise of a lower memory foot-print, and other highly valuable core functions) the obvious question is: Will there also be development for Kit Kat based ROMs for our phone? E.g. a CM base that others can build upon as is the case now with 4.3.

Having owned my razr HD +1 year now I still think it is a great phone! The bundled (stock) software is not perfect but the hardware (build quality + battery in particular) is super nice. Flashed with a well build custom ROM I really like my phone, even compared to friends newer models (samsung etc.).
[RAZR HD General] canux001:
I'll go out on a limb and say yes. Motorola just announced that the RAZR HD Dev edition will be receiving 4.4 KitKat in the near future.
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Excellent! :)
[RAZR HD General] cabagekiller:
Link to that quote?
[RAZR HD General] techhexium:
Most likely from Motorola's OS Upgrade website that tells you their update plans for their devices at motorola.com/os, but that got changed to "This device is currently running Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)

Future plan coming soon."

Most definitely it was a typo.
[RAZR HD General] SnakeHaveYou:
Here's the link
[RAZR HD General] aaki_rocker:
the difference between the dev edition and the global razr hd is just the bootloader. (correct me if i'm wrong here)

so the phones with unlocked bootloader could be able to install 4.4 from dev edition razr hd which would be awesome ! :D
[RAZR HD General] Tuckycv:
According to that link, the RAZR HD, will NOT have a kit kat update. Bummer, if that the case that would be enough reason for me to never buy another Motorola Phone, if not 4.4 at least we deserve a 4.3 official update. sigh.
[RAZR HD General] giovannipaquier:
I'm from Brazil and it is confirmed, the RAZR HD (XT925) will receive the KitKat 4.4 update, soon. There is the chat:

sorry, MORNING and THANK YOU. i was hurry. XD
[RAZR HD General] Tuckycv:
I hope is true, now that Kitkat is officially out, we'll get more accurate info. That info makes me happy too :)

Edit.- Ok i tried the same chat trick, trough motorola México, and the response is that engineers are testing to determine whether the Razr HD would get and update or not. In this update I don't think it would depend on carrier, I mean it would at the point to whether I get it (X carrier) and my cousin don't (Y Carrier) well, I guess will have to wait. After all the hype google put into it and motorola now being a google company, one would think they will be more open about updates and such.
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Its cool that you do some research on this. Thanks. Hopefully we end up getting Kit Kat!

As for the engineering testing: Somehow I think it would be a little for embarresing for Motorola if their 'about 1 year old product' would turn out "obsolete" for a upgrade that is supposed to run on only 512mb phones etc.
[RAZR HD General] kenrw7:
It may be factor that the XT925/XT926/XT905/XT907 may not get update as they are not Motorola X8 Mobile Computing System phones which Moto X, Droid HD, Droid Maxx and Droid mini are.
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Agreed. But I still think it smells mostly like a 'business decision'.

Point being: If they don't update to 4.4. some people may be tempted to buy a new phone to get the newest (eg. a nexus 5 or motorola) = Cash win for Google (and maybe Motorola also).

On the other hand: Customers (myself included) will get a little pissed if they almost completely neglect updating their fairly recent top-line products (Razr HD). = Next time many will be looking elsewhere when out shopping a new phone to manufacturs that don't ditch support quite as quickly.

I like motorola's phone, but I for one will be thinking hard about buying one again if they ditch this upgrade. I don't they will though! I am optimistic and think we will get Kit Kat.
[RAZR HD General] Tuckycv:
I'm up for renewal late this month, I can get a new Razr HD for free + a Razr D3(maybe for my kid) But, if in this time frame, we don't get the official word about update, not necessarily the update itself, but at least the promise of the update, I will move to another brand. The nexus 5 price seems very appealing.
[RAZR HD General] lngwca:
4.4

Pay attention to the PA forums. there a guy CJ360 who has been putting Paranoid out with 4.3 daily driver. i assume he would jump on this and get us 4.4 goodness
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
No kitkat =no more Motorola

Phuk data isht
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
Don't count on that l!ar Pun!t Son! ...

Exactly the same hollow phrases were spoken over and over again one year ago.

Atrix users had been told "stay tuned for our upgrade plans" over months (round January 2012 it appeared that Atrix might eventually get ICS-Update).

Until november, when it finally changed to "Atrix will remain on Gingerbread".

SO: Don't expect too much. Be happy with what you have, the RazrHD (stock or CM10.X) already has a fine pool of roms to chose from and it is a great device - even with "only" Android 4.1.
[RAZR HD General] xknobi:
Very nice Moto, don't give update to older model, instead push some fix for bootloader unlocking. dirty dirty...
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Not that it is any excuse on Motorola behalf at all! But I think, what they don't tell us is that they are fairly dependent on Qualcomm (making drivers for the chipset, while they want to sell their new chipsets) + maybe the carriers (Verizon). I think Both Qualcomm and Verizon make big big bucks even if they have less contact with customers and are less know in generally. As for qualcomm they may becomming a bit like Intel that has much power even if they just "supply" to other manufactures.

If they (Motorola) don't deliver. We (the costumers) should keep complaining. Threating to take our business elsewhere rather than just buy a new "update" phone and keep the system alive with with manufactures(+ their suppliers) having no incentive to support their products.
[RAZR HD General] bgumble:
here are some news:

these screenshots are from the motorola site,

this one was posted in this forum

and this one I did today

let's speculate for the next months, until we do NOT get any update :mad:
[RAZR HD General] idless:
The first one (concerning developer ed) was surely a typo or too early info release (we can hope). It was very quickly changed.

What worries me is that I am not sure any other phones (from other manufacturers) with our Qualcomm chipset is planned for 4.4.

I suspect we (and maybe even moto) are in the mercy of Qualcomm to provide the drivers compatible with KK to manufacturers.

Maybe they have some agreement that they must support new updates for a while or something or no.. we can only speculate.

If they do not have an agreement or moto some leverage to strong-arm Qualcomm we are probably screwed. I can imagine Qualcomm would much prefer to sell some fancy new chipset rather than fund development into chipset they no longer sell. Oh and let moto and other manufactures get the flak for not delivering to end customers (us).

... all pure speculation of cause!!
[RAZR HD General] kenrw7:
You maybe right, wikipedia has these phones listed with MSM8960 not many of which are planned KK and few have 4.2 update

Asus Transformer Pad Infinity (3G/4G version),

BlackBerry Z10,

HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE, HTC Evo 4G LTE, HTC One X (North America), HTC One XL, HTC Windows Phone 8X,

LG Mach,

Motorola Atrix HD, Motorola Droid Razr M, Motorola Droid Razr HD, Motorola Razr HD, Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD,

Nokia Lumia 820, Nokia Lumia 920, Nokia Lumia 925, Nokia Lumia 1020,

Panasonic Eluga Power,

Samsung Galaxy S III (select versions),

Sharp Aquos Phone sv (SH-10D), Sharp Aquos Phone Zeta (SH-09D),

Sony Xperia GX, Sony Xperia TL, Sony Xperia SX, Sony Xperia V,

Toshiba Regza Phone (T-02D),

ZTE Grand Era LTE, ZTE Grand X LTE, ZTE V96,

Huawei Ascend P1 LTE

Whereas Motorola Droid Ultra, Motorola Droid Maxx, Motorola Droid Mini, Moto X have X8 chipset with MSM8960DT cpu
[RAZR HD General] Tuckycv:
After the hype is getting down, I'm seeing more and more info pointing to not getting a 4.4 update. I would at least expect to be upgrade it to 4.3 I can't conceive a top model as the XT925 (it was high end device at its time) to be obsolete and forgotten at 13 months. I would settle with 4.3 and bee done with it, it doesn't mean I don't want a 4.4. upgrade, but seeing the info I don't hope for much anymore. One thing would be for sure though, this would be my last motorola device.
[RAZR HD General] AdamMarkTodd:
4.4 for dev endition

I expect when the dev edition comes out, it will be for the xt926 only. Hopefully somebody can properly adapt it for the xt925 without a bunch of goofy build.prop edit.
[RAZR HD General] djuniah:
The source for CM11 was posted last night. I've got a build running now...we'll see what happens...
[RAZR HD General] idless:
For Razr HD? That is great news!! It would be super cool with a kit kat based CM for our phone! :good::good:
[RAZR HD General] djuniah:
Yup, for the 926, however the build keeps failing for various reasons. I'm trying to work my away through them, but no promises.
[RAZR HD General] aaki_rocker:
4.4 rom for t-mobile MOTO X has already leak so i guess with not much difference in the hardware, xt925/6 should get 4.4 soon or later maybe :p

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2445955
[RAZR HD General] skeevydude:
We already do, just the radio doesn't work yet. DHacker's the man.

I was running 4.4 AOSP on the AHD last night. Runs great other than the not able to make calls part.
[RAZR HD General] aaki_rocker:
excellent ! :D

any chance you could share that rom !

could it directly work on the razr hd xt925 ?
[RAZR HD General] skeevydude:
DHacker hasn't uploaded anything for this platform yet (that I'm aware of), so I'm not. You can easily compile it yourself if you know how.

I only compiled and installed so I could provide a logcat of the AHD to help out.
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Nothing short of awesome news!! I'm quite impressed by the persistence and abilities of developers for our phone. Community development rules!

From what I read KitKat seems quite interesting. More so than the last couple of updates I think. Better ram-usage, the possibility of ART replacing dalvik and other faily fundamental performance related changes.
[RAZR HD General] kenrw7:
Sony have announced that the Xperia V is to get 4.3 and that has the same cpu and Adreno graphics and probably the same chipset. So if Sony can do Motorola can, or can a dev compile the Sony fw when available?
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
MOTOROLA responds...sorta

Punit Soni, a Moto VP, opened a conversation in google plus

go to google plus (im new) and

+PunitSoni/posts/LAKKMnEE6CQ

basically its still in future plans

reasons to go from jelly bean to kit kat:

ART

trim

memory management

music played only in the ti/broadcom chip instead of cpu, more battery time

and the host of features that were added on 4.2, 4.3 ,and 4.4 but the ones above will remove all lag and stutters for me...
[RAZR HD General] idless:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2517931

This is probarbly the thread to follow.
[RAZR HD General] trdrjeff:
Been running the NEXESQUE Rom for a couple of days and it's real smooth, enough to quite my lust for a Moto X or Nexus5. I imagine a 4.4 would be even better.
[RAZR HD General] di3zelherbert:
I've successfully flashed my XT925 with DHacker's AOSP 4.4 rom with CWM recovery 6.0.4.4. Was my first first time actually rooting and unlocking the boot loader on an android phone and I'm surprised it was this easy.

Only problems I've come across is that switching to the video camera crashes the camera app. But as of now, everything i use on a regular basis on my phone I've tested for the past day (wifi, phone calls work, Skype works, Facebook voice works, bluetooth works connecting to my pebble smart watch & to my laptop, texting and mms works).

May try Carbon 4.3 though just to have the video camera working again.
[RAZR HD General] fascinateguy:
started playing with the cm11, its very smooth and fast but there's video issues...
[RAZR HD General] idless:
The news is out!

https://motorola-global-portal.cust...m93NFNpTUZsIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoib3dRUmlNRmwifQ..

http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-adds-six-more-phones-android-44-update-list
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Good news, good share

Now, when is the update :)
[RAZR HD General] ajape:
Happy Days! :D:D:D

Motorola Confirms Android 4.4 Kit Kat Updates for DROID RAZR HD, MAXX HD, and RAZR M
[RAZR HD General] kenrw7:
No mention of Razr HD and Razr HD maxx upgrade to KK, only the DE

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_prepares_android_44_kitkat_updates_for_10_smartphones-news-7226.php

quote

Motorola's latest Moto X and its Developer's Edition will be getting Android 4.4 KitKat everywhere. Verizon's Moto X update rollout has already begun, while the other carriers will be getting it very soon.

Somewhat surprisingly, the dated Motorola Electrify M for US Cellular and ATRIX HD for AT&T will be getting Android 4.4 KitKat as well. Oddly enough though the ATRIX HD Developer's Edition won't get the same treatment and will remain stuck on Jelly Bean.

Verizon's DROID Ultra, DROID Maxx, DROID Mini, DROID RAZR HD, DROID RAZR Maxx HD, and DROID RAZR M will be all getting Android 4.4 KitKat. Now this is some great news to all Motorola users on Verizon contracts.

More good news for Developer edition owners - the RAZR HD and RAZR M Developer editions will both be receiving KitKat down the road.

Motorola UK XT925 still has

MOTOROLA RAZR HD

This device is currently running Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean)

Future plan coming soon.

and XT910

MOTOROLA RAZR MAXX

This device will remain on Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)

XT890

MOTOROLA RAZR i

This device is currently running Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean)

Future plan coming soon.
[RAZR HD General] ajape:
:rolleyes: The Canadian Page ALREADY has the the XT925 listed as receiving KitKat:

Besides, even if that were NOT the case, a rom for the XT926 is exactly the same as one for the XT925 other than the GSM/CDMA radio, which would take all of... what, 6 minutes to change? No, We´re ALL of us getting KitKat, start celebrating already! :cowboy:

(Image Credit for Sumanji)
[RAZR HD General] deeje00:
Definitely says both versions in your post..

Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
[RAZR HD General] kcuongh:
Does This firmware run with ART ?
[RAZR HD General] ikesik:
I gotta say, for those interested, go check out epinter's CM 11 builds. I have been using it for a couple of days and have been very impressed. At this point, I do not expect to be returning to a lesser android.
[RAZR HD General] s_u_n:
Will that work for those with locked bootloaders?

If not, then that leaves out perhaps 50% of the Razr HD users, I believe. For all of them anything higher than 4.1.2 was a dream. Now, Moto might just fulfill that dream.

Keep your promise this time, Moto!
[RAZR HD General] MaNiAc_4LIFE:
Fully agree its SO SMOOTH I have had soooo many ROMs and this is BY FAR my favorite

SENT FROM MY RAZR MAXX HD RUNNING CM11KITKAT!
[RAZR HD General] mrf582:
The BIGGEST issue I've had with anything not stock kernel is the signal strength. Not just the display but actual signal dropping out in certain areas where I don't get that drop with the stock kernel.
[RAZR HD General] MaNiAc_4LIFE:
I dont have service so i wouldnt be able to say anything about that​

:laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] JackHanAnLG:
You heard it right!

http://androidspin.com/2013/10/31/android-4-4-uploaded-aosp/

I hope the devs can get a flashable rom going quite soon, I dont care if the whole thing doesnt work I just wanna try it out, probably the same with most of you, no? :D

God, im excited, what about you guys?

~ Jack
[Galaxy S III General] Robin2:
I'm not that excited. I think it's great for this device's development, but I personally prefer the battery life and stability that the stock rom gives us. The official 4.3 will suffice for me until I upgrade to a different phone.
[Galaxy S III General] dkionline:
At the moment we need Mali blobbs for 4.3...4.4 will come later, maybe summer 14.
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
Like that's going to happen...
[Galaxy S III General] MrSonicB00m:
I found the device to be more stable using Cyanogenmod. I also get better battery life. But when 4.3 comes out I will probably go back to stock.
[Galaxy S III General] JackHanAnLG:
I agree, stock seems to give better battery life and i will also go to 4.3 but for a while... i might revert back

the only thing i didnt like about touchwiz was that it just lagged all the time
[Galaxy S III General] Ausboy 2011:
4.4 may still come to the s3 it can run on devices with 512 mb ram so hopefully something happens here :)

Sent from my dominationed S4
[Galaxy S III General] hwjrmrm:
we can wait for AOSP rom..maybe soon...
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
In terms of battery life: CM 10.1.3>Stock>CM 10.2
[Galaxy S III General] supreethms:
Not for me. 10.2 > 10.1.x

(Only on slimbean.. dont know why.. i miss halo though)
[Galaxy S III General] aaki_rocker:
samsung most probably wont officially update the s3 to 4.4 because by the time 4.4 is out for samsung devices, s3 will be out of the 18 months update window provided by samsung.

the hardware wont be at fault over here though.

we may be ditched just like galaxy nexus is ditched for 4.4 kitkat.

not letting you guys down, just telling a possibility.

peace.. :)
[Galaxy S III General] hakd:
"Sedan tidigare har en Samsung-representant bekräftat att fjolårets Galaxy S3 och Note 2 ska uppdateras till Android 4.4."

Several Swedish sites confirms that Samsung will roll out 4.4 to S3, btw i cant link it but Google it
[Galaxy S III General] Angerlust:
I've got this feeling also. I think I will stay on 4.3, though 4.4 might just make it even better.
[Galaxy S III General] Scarface1991:
I don't care about TouchWiz

Right now CM10.2 works really well (no thanks to Samsung) and I hope the devs will do the same with 4.4
[Galaxy S III General] Soryuu:
I believe it was said before that Knox would be coming to the S3 in the form of Android 4.4 (as well as the Note 2)...
[Galaxy S III General] nonyhaha:
You read it wrong. it will be coming in the form of android 4.3 update. :)
[Galaxy S III General] cheese458:
how do you revert back from cm10.2 to stock when 4.3 comes out?
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
?? touchwiz? who said anything about touchwiz?

he's talking about the binary blobs of the mali driver. CM needs that too, for smooth animations and the like.

That's the reason why CM 10.2 has laggy animations and CM 10.1.3 doesn't. Same reason for Omni.

We have 4.2 blobs, but not for 4.3.
[Galaxy S III General] carlitosoe:
Exynos

So.. I'm sure the community will release a 4.4 ROM sooner or later but depending on the community rather than Samsung i think that a broad community is necessary to get good results. I was used to a great developer community delivering great ROMs and options for my Samsung Captivate but now i see that somewhat diminished in i9300 because of the Exynos code being closed to devs. Camera being faulty, animations being laggy, etc.

I'm wondering that maybe its time to move from my gs3 to some other device with a Snapdragon maybe and an active dev community. I'm not a dev but I really enjoy their work. Which device do you think its currently one that promises good dev activity? Am I right to think snapdragon is a better choice? In that case, could a, say ATT GS4 with Snapdragon, be a better option?

Thank you!
[Galaxy S III General] danarama:
Nexus 5, i9505 or xperia z1

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[Galaxy S III General] aliw32619:
Nexus 5 for sure
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
Go ask in the correct section or do some research.
[Galaxy S III General] Kickasskev:
Nexus 5 for me I think, although I do like the note 3.

Decisions decisions
[Galaxy S III General] carlitosoe:
I asked in here since we are all expecting 4.4 and hoping that sharing my inconveniences with other owners of GS3 would have a similar perspective of what I perceive.

I also asked after getting in to more than a hand full of other devices developer forums and looked for how many roms they have and their popularity.

So where would that correct section be?
[Galaxy S III General] JackHanAnLG:
Make a nandroid backup of your rom, see if you like 4.3 touchwiz, if not, root it or flash an older version of android via odin, get CWM and then restore that backup ;)
[Galaxy S III General] seabass950:
When might CM start working on 4.4 for i9300? I know they sort of just started on 4.3
[Galaxy S III General] aasimkhan30:
Anywyas xplodwild has started omni 4.4

For i9300
[Galaxy S III General] bornlivedie:
They stated that they were working on 4.4 yesterday (1st of November).
[Galaxy S III General] cheese458:
thanks, but how do you get 4.3 touchwiz in the first place?