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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmucooper:
I am a manager at a sprint store. The only difference between the play store version and the one from sprint directly is that the play store one doesn't come with a Sim card that is needed to activate the phone on the sprint network. We were advised today that anyone purchasing the phone from the play store should be directed to a sprint service and repair center as they will have the cards needed to identify the device on the sprint network. Hope this helps!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stowellt:
So if I'm going from another LTE Sprint phone to a Nexus 5. Would it be best to use the same sim card or get one at the Sprint store?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmucooper:
My understanding is that it is a special card for the Nexus 5 they will be in stores by 11-8 at the very latest.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafester:
that actually really sucks. I don't want to have to hunt down a sim card just to activate my new phone.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.Mobile:
look what i found.. http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...-sprint-unlimited-data-guarantee-for-life.htm
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafester:
maybe I missed it but what does this have to do with activation?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.Mobile:
well till i seen it from the sprint site i really didnt kno if sprint was gonna have the nex 5.. now i kno... all the other info was here say... not now... that made me happy to see that.. my guess is we get the phone we take it to the sprint store and they activate it.. im not worried anymore.. goodnite guys!! on to the next one 1;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lafester:
gotcha.... I just don't see to many stores actually receiving these on time.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjs2011:
I'm thinking about switching to this from the S4. I'm not eligible for an upgrade. Do you know if Sprint would still let me trade my S4 in? If not, what's the best way to go about this? I'm not big into Craigslist.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmucooper:
Stores will get them just fine.

If you are looking to upgrade check with your local store and see what they can do for you. There is the 1 up program ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] premo15:
I'm in the same boat with my evo lte... I doubt Sprint will let you trade if you're not eligible for an upgrade (or would at least make you renew), so I'm planning to just sell mine after I get the n5. Some people around here have vouched for Swappa and the evo lte is going for a decent price on there so that's probably what I'll do. Looks like you could get close to 400 for a Sprint s4 in good condition

http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-s-4-sprint

Sent from my Evo LTE
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] cagio:
Hello everybody!! I install photo contact version 1.20 (build 17957) to resolv some gprs' problem.. But now i can't associate .mp3 files to my contact!!! (only .wmv, .wm, .wav, .3gp, .mid, .mp4)... Please Help me!!!
[Galaxy Ace II General] Shadowcareful:
Hey guys,

this is a discussion to talk about the newest Android os 4.4 ( Kitkat ).

Why could this version of Android be a big step for our phone?

Because it's made to run on low end devices with 512mb of ram or more ( Ace II has 768mb ).

Android 4.4 Kitkat has also many performance improvements.

Link for all new feature of Android 4.4: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html

and http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/ .
[Galaxy Ace II General] asdfzz:
Eheh better cm11 ^_^
[Galaxy Ace II General] DEMONVoz:
i'm waiting AOSP Android 4.4
[Galaxy Ace II General] tomgv:
Irony, it's made to run on low end devices with 512 ram, but Samsung Nexus won't be updated to 4.4. ( HD display, 1GB Ram, Dual Core)

I hope one day we will get CM10.3 / CM11? by TeamCanjica.
[Galaxy Ace II General] oliverf:
I really hope this comes to the Ace II. I've tried various roms and most work to a good degree but still have problems which I don't care about but my girl wants a phone that just works so an official release would be good but anything that works is nice. Hoping to see some rapid progress on this one, I know their are plenty of excited devs to make it happen
[Galaxy Ace II General] nusko_x:
Who knows, maybe, i hope so. But knowing that our phone can not support properly JB ( maybe samsung developers didnt make it right) it will be difficult to make it work. Maybe our XDA developers will be able to make it for Ace 2. :) i hope soon.
[Galaxy Ace II General] oliverf:
Lots of people seem to think it's coming to the Ace but I think that's optimistic, looks like it wont run it even if it is designed for better performance with less resources. Nothing on the Dev forums about 4.4 at the moment but I've no doubt they'll do it. 'tis a bit early yet ;)
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
CM will be faster than stock 4.4. AOSP will be faster than CM. It's true.
[Galaxy Ace II General] dlsygaco:
some devices wont be supported by official updates because of marketing. They will force u to buy new phones. We have devs to that job on our part :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] asdfzz:
Yeah ofc we can get it only with cm

Btw new launcher ^^
[Galaxy Ace II General] fifo171:
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/HpXkXU98R7q
[Galaxy Ace II General] Simone101:
The paranoid are relased AOSP 4.4 rom for nexus device!!!!

Sorry for my bad english
[Galaxy Ace II General] mercator54:
so fast??? O_O

but well... it doesn't takes much time to build... :D

By the way, Google has published the sourse code of 4.4, so we can try porting... :cowboy:
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
Good news! :thumbup:
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
TeamCanjica's guys are doing some KK repos on github yet. So maybe...

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[Galaxy Ace II General] oliverf:
Seem some posts from Rox talking about 4.4 and where he wants to go with his development. He's for sure looking into it, I'm hoping he gets the CM10.2 rom stable before he moves on. Not everyone wants to flash new builds all the time.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Phial_shoniC:
The KItKat would be great for mod development AND its suitable for low ram device,but i disappointed nexus don't get update....:crying:
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
AOSP wolud be great. Fast as Nexus, minimal features. But it's hard to port.
[Galaxy Ace II General] mercator54:
why hard?..
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
Always it's harder IMO. Porting from Nexus device and compiling for our.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
It is simple to get cm 11 XD all you have to do is to guess combination of 3 letters/numbers on devhost. Good Luck impatient creatures... :P

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] zaryab360:
Hahaha …lol :P [MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION] are u checking our patience level T_T
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
Oh, I think it would be faster to compile it by oneself, following Mr Hudson's script:) AND including the time of preparing compilation environment :)

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[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Oh. I will update readme on device Repo... So everyone can compile it on own. But do not Share or i will get Mad...

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
And how do I do to build it? As I already said somewhere in this thread, I only have 1gb ram and Intel atom CPU :'(

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] fifo171:
Ehm, will we be able to flash the ROM when we build it? I've read somewhere that some devices need new recovery in order to flash Kitkat ROMs.

BTW wasn't this the reason why Janice owners couldn't flash the leaked CM11? You (or someone else from TC) said there was some trick needed if you wanted to flash it. Or it had nothing to do with recovery? :)

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[Galaxy Ace II General] Shadowcareful:
Rox wanted to try combination but could't find the ordner. On which devhost is it?
[Galaxy Ace II General] arhamiq:
C'mon man, share the link :p
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
[MENTION=5162402]Shadowcareful[/MENTION]

Dude, there is only one Dev host...

The file is not public, so only possibility is to find exact link address. Those 3 letters that [MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION] mentioned. Good luck in your search:)

I understand, totally. There was situation on spica scene. One guy worked on sources and other published ROMs and collected the praise... the dev got mad and stops developing

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[Galaxy Ace II General] Sev3rus:
guys.. please be patient.. ;)
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Hey [MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION] , may I ask how you named the file ?
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
I don't think non public dev host files are indexed in google search (or any other) :))
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Can I ask how does one compile sources for android? I believe I have the necessary tools to do so but no experience in actually building and compiling the sources :p
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
I'm not looking in Google, its a special software, which checks all possible URLs on an specified server. At this time it already found 55223 URLs. And there are also some cm-10.2 or 10.1 codina files :)) but still no cm-11+codina :(
[Galaxy Ace II General] fifo171:
LOL, your effort really amazes me. :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] vladyslavfox:
Hacker. Level: God.:D
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Try searching for Gt-I8160 and cm11, could give the result that way
[Galaxy Ace II General] arpit85:
Don't try to find it because u can't. D-h.st has settings which enables uploader to restrict the visibility of/access to file to uploader and the users selected by uploader only and no one else.
[Galaxy Ace II General] zaryab360:
Deleted
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Thanks, I got it and I'm downloading it now
[Galaxy Ace II General] zaryab360:
Really you have a guts :cool:

Try and don't forget to report me :P
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
No, fox said, that if we know the URL, we can download it. So now the only thing is to find the URL... And that's what I'm (or my PC) is doing right now

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Well, Jereksel publicly put it on goo.im, you happened to find it, I'm downloading it, and I'll try it. I'm just eager to use cm11, is there anything wrong with that? I still give credit to TeamCanjica for making it
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Oh.....:good:
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
But this relase is old, maybe new would be better and without too many bugs.
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Well I just tried to flash cm11 and got greeted by a Status-7 error message, saying that "This is for 'codina' devices; this is a 'GT-I8160' " but thats rubbish because thats what it is. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
I deleted file :P

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] arpit85:
May be it needs newer version of CWM recovery to flash.
[Galaxy Ace II General] vladyslavfox:
But people dowload it. They can upload file in web. And they will be share CM11. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Where is leak? If anyone publish it i will stop developing. Think twice before upload...

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
I believe I have the latest available for our phone, cant get any newer, so that isn't the issue :(
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Really? :'(

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
Look at tutorials (plenty of them available) and readme on teamcanjica github that Rox mentioned
[Galaxy Ace II General] vladyslavfox:
Everyone, who already download CM11: DO NOT SHARE!

If Rox find CM11 somewhere, he stop developing!
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Don't worry, I wont share my cm11, I just want to know how to get it working :(

---------- Post added at 07:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 PM ----------

I tried that, but I don't have linux so I don't think that works for me
[Galaxy Ace II General] Shadowcareful:
Rox you can find the leak at jeresksel's goo.im. could you say us if a special recovery is needed to flash 4.4?
[Galaxy Ace II General] asdfzz:
guys please wait...you can't flash jereksel build.
[Galaxy Ace II General] vladyslavfox:
Special recovery not need.
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Why is that? Because I have possibly found the problem, and was about to try it but then I saw this
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
It is flashable -.-

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Yeah, the problem was it only let 'codina' devices flash it, but because mine says its a 'GT-I8160' it didn't work. I have edited some of the code, so now it should work

Update: OK so that worked, but I'm now greeted with "set_metadata_recursive: some changes failed" and another status 7 error. Unless anyone knows how to fix this one, I'm just going to wait till the full release, its too tiring now
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Somewhere in xda I read that in KitKat are some changes wit some binaries (??) ,, so that it would need an other recovery or an new version...

Perhaps we have the same problem and that's because of that rod doesn't share his build at the moment...

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
That is not problem. We alredy fixed problem with old recoveries...

Edit:

In about 45 minutes I will publish new 27/11 Cm 11 build.

You first have to promise me that:

-you won't spam and thread about any bug on cm 11 or write any problem, impression or feedback

-you won't spam my pm about progress and questions like , why my video can't play, why it takes so much to boot, new bootanimation is cool etc.

-you won't make any thread about this cm 11

-this is pre-release so I dont want to hear anything about problems , issues.

-do not ask for ETA of beta release

-only allowed thing is to help in finding SOLUTION for bugs

Not working : OMX and Camera

Issues : download/upload arrows on data connection

Thanks

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] kg2811:
Rox - you are too good for us :D

BIG THANKS
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
I apologise for anything I have said i this thread that may have annoyed you, and I apologise in advance. Thank you for this, considering the only reason you are doing this is because everyone was whining about the wait. You (and the rest of Team Canjica) are the best devs we have had for the Ace 2, and have given our phone a longer lifespan that it should have perhaps had. Thanks again :D
[Galaxy Ace II General] Shadowcareful:
So rox judt tiny question.

Do you think Cm 11 will work on gt-i8160p with changing tee folder? Like on cm 10.1 etc
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
I don't see any reason why not to work..

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] tokict:
hey ... see ....

beside cm 11 files jereksel also publish 'boot.img' maybe we just should install it before install cm files.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
No. That is not needed now because we fixed old recovery flash...

[MENTION=272459]nice[/MENTION] thinking.. That was magical trick xD

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] tokict:
ok rox. thanks for your work.

waiting for cm 11 .......
[Galaxy Ace II General] zaryab360:
Promise <3
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
http://d-h.st/JLG

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] Sev3rus:
thanks Bro :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] zaryab360:
Going to try o_O
[Galaxy Ace II General] The wsx:
I will wait for a while to test it. But I know Rox , jereksel and other devs will make it usable for daily use in a short time.

Stock rom is still on 4.1 but they give us cm 10.1 , 10.2 and now 11
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
Love You Rox ;)
[Galaxy Ace II General] Mihart:
Which gapps should we flash?

This one http://d-h.st/oYG ?
[Galaxy Ace II General] jereksel:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
[Galaxy Ace II General] Adriangbba6:
Why you not create new thread in development section [MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION]?

Sorry for my bad english
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Because this is just pre-release so you Guys can taste kit kat and get diabetes... When i make beta version with only minor bugs i will make thread...

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] padla*:
how to flash it?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
Same question from me, a tried and phone is softbrike?. After installation freeze on Ace II...

I do not have any problem with it I just ask :) Do not go mad Rox
[Galaxy Ace II General] audi0fly:
Same for me :confused: Stuck on Samsung logo
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Here also for almost 15mins.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Then seems that frapeti's commit im native broke whole build... Sorry Guys you have no Luck :/

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
Happens :) thanks for info Rox. Now I can go sleep :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Try using libgui.so from "leak"

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
How if it wont go pass the Samsung logo?

I wipe: data/cache/dalvik > flash zip > reboot > hangs on Samsung logo.

I wipe: data/cache/dalvik > flash zip > wipe again > reboot > hangs on Samsung logo.

I wipe: data/cache/dalvik > format system > flash zip > reboot > Hangs on Samsung logo.

I wipe: data/cache/dalvik > format system > flash zip > wipe again > reboot > hangs on Samsung logo.

Edit:

Also tried to boot without sd-card, but also not working.

Dont know what im doing wrong?

Recovery and download mode both still works fine.

Just won go pass the Samsung logo.

First its very white and after few seconds its become gray, but after that nothing else.

This is not a complain, just to inform you.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
Odin my firend :) or back up 10,2 but I'm not sure if that will work
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Cant use odin, im using ubuntu (no dual boot).

Not really want to install just for 1 little program...

Edit:

Flashing back cm10.2 wont work! (status 7)
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
So if You understand what Rox have on his maind with that leak file, You can still have acces to files by cwm recovery app aromafm its work great, you can download it free on xda

Sory for my english
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
[MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION], hey, i saw 'progress' in bagnzor's cm10/10.1(if you know what i mean) I dont mind a buggy cm11 :D thanks for yiur work(or effort..)
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Have replaced the file from leaked to this one, but still its hangs on Samsung logo.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Alwer:
And what about heimdall ? It should work with ace...
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
going to try that out.

Thanks
[Galaxy Ace II General] audi0fly:
Delete first line in ROM / "META-INF/com/google/android/update-script" - delete all before "mount("ext4", "EMMC", "/dev/block/mmcblk0p3", "/system");"
[Galaxy Ace II General] padla*:
For what wersion of os it is?
[Galaxy Ace II General] audi0fly:
If you get assert error while trying to flash back cm10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] mateuszcom:
Somebody installed this? Some review?

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[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
Cant. Bootloop i think

Sent from my iPhone
[Galaxy Ace II General] pinhead97:
Has anyone got a solution to this yet?
[Galaxy Ace II General] xafra:
[MENTION=4215423]mateuszcom[/MENTION]

Read carefully what I've marked with '#'.

No feedback means also no review, ...

Did you get the picture?
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Think we have to wait for a new build from Rox.

This one is not booting up!

Im currently installing winxp in virtualbox after that im going to restore back to GB of JB (dont know yet).
[Galaxy Ace II General] asdfzz:
like rox already said there was a problem on source so rom will not boot.

wait next build when it will arrive
[Galaxy Ace II General] mojito0:
LOL that "get diabetes" line made my day
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
:D +1

Sent from my iPhone
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Installing winXP on virtualbox taken to long, so i had to try above solution.

And this works out great, thanks!

Finally im back on cm10.2 and stay on cm10.2, untill there is a working version :D
[Galaxy Ace II General] botid:
Is it me or the distinction between Android and Google has just become even more difficult to make with Android 4.4?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
Try replacing libgui in flashable package
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Ok try that later, will report back if it works or not.
[Galaxy Ace II General] crashdjent:
[MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION],

Delete or replacing?

Where to get the file to move?
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
You will find it on the leaked ROM on goo.I'm

I just tried to setup an environment with Linux mint and build cm11 myself, just for fun.... But I gave it up. The netbook is always freezing. Its simply to slow (also there is only software rendering available for GMA 3600 )
[Galaxy Ace II General] pedroleon99:
Can you share the link? Thanks ;)

Inviato dal mio GT-S5301 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
Search in google

'Jereksel goo.im'

Go to folder 'test builds'
[Galaxy Ace II General] vladyslavfox:
Not work
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Some kind of goo.im/devs/jereksel/

Ant there should be an folder called test-build

Credits of course to Team Canjica :)

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2

---------- Post added at 03:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

For me it only gives

Installation aborted (Bad) in CWM

Is there something wrong with re-zipping ? Or the md5?

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
Said before.. Someone got bootloop and couldnt reflash cm10.2 becoz status 7.
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
But we are talking about the one with the other libgui.so

Before it gave aborted because we have a gt-i8160 and not a codina

-Galaxy ace 2 (codina)

-CM10.2
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
And after that massage there is a message with the solution (im back on cm10.2, without odin) ;)
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
If i remember correctly, you use heimdall?

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[Galaxy Ace II General] dlsygaco:
i extracted the 2 files from goo and the one by rox. and then used the one on goo from jersekel with libgui.so in lib and replaced the one in rox's. then made it again as a zip. so maybe. i dont know what to do next. im afraid i would get bootloop since im out of home. Im fine with latest cm10.2 but all these makes me want to lol.
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Heimdall installed yes, but not used it :)

I have used this solution:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47927587&postcount=256

Dont unzip it, you can delete/add stuff within the zip file ;)

Think that the zip file is corrupted now (dont know for sure).
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
If I unzip it, change the file, then rezip it (like in the picture) give it the same name as before then it should be flashable. Or do I have to change something (compression or perhaps something with an md5sum???)

I'm a total noob in this :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Change the files without unzipping it :)

But its pointless to try, as its already tried by other person ;)

So wont work anyway...
[Galaxy Ace II General] nestorojeda:
can any body upload the libgui.so of jereksel?
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
Rox said something about commits (i think) so just wait for a bootable build
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxoL-Mfg9hMfaFl4TllSUVgzQ3M/edit?usp=docslist_api

I hope its OK for rox, if i upload this file :) credits of course to Team Canjica :D
[Galaxy Ace II General] nestorojeda:
It works?
[Galaxy Ace II General] sp1d3rnl:
Nobody can read?

It will NOT work!

Just wait for good release, some people... :confused:
[Galaxy Ace II General] crashdjent:
Does not work
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
Can someone say me where boot.img is stored in a running system?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
/dev/block/mmcblk0p15
[Galaxy Ace II General] S.AMU:
I can't find it, there is only a file called

22:07 mmcblk0p15

its date is shown as 1.january 1970 AMD a size of 0bytes
[Galaxy Ace II General] tokict:
hey [MENTION=4947931]Rox[/MENTION] how if libgui.so I take from cm 11 on s3 mini. will it make different? maybe will booting?