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[Android Head-Units] np27np27:
Yes you can reflow with an oven but I have not tried. I did my board with a heat gun as you can target the important areas.

My unit has been working perfectly for more than a month now and I had the exact same problem as you.

Use the search to find my post with the fix to the problem ;)

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I have had the same problem as you and fixed it very easily with a home reflow. It's reasonably easy to do and my unit works fine now ;)

And it's more likely that the code chip is the part to blame, it deals with the sound channels. If the car was at fault the unit would not even boot.

I still disagree with all you who think this is a software fault. It looks very like a hardware only problem to me. I agree with you that the unit overheating is the cause, but this can't be blamed on the Android software :rolleyes:

It would be interesting to know where in the world people are having the problem. My bet is it is hot countries :cool:
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
The problem is 100% hardware.Now i know for sure.But please, don;t advice someone to reflow his board if is a noob in this problem.A good reflow, that will work good a long time it must be make with special tools that have a good control of temperature used.Otherwise you have great chances to damage forever the board and CPU..If you check the CPU specifications, you will see that the CPU manage the sources switching.Is not the code chip.ANdroid 4.03 is more CPU hungry this is the problem that will finally overheat the CPU more than Win CE. A CPU without cooling always ends like this.
[Android Head-Units] scrheeder:
Music on USB Flash

Could anyone assist me. I would like to understand how the S150 reads deals with music on a USB Flash.

It seems it needs to be FAT32?

Music also needs to be in a folder called music?

When they in folder inside Music you cannot play all music randomly? Only a folder (Album) randomly?
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Thank you. After reading through a lot of pages, I found the info I needed.

Few other questions though:

Should I update the MCU or can I leave the current version when installing WinCE (is it even possible not to update the MCU)? Does it matter which version of the MCU is installed?

Should anything not be working properly, can I go back to Android 2.3? I have a separate sd card with Android for my device?

Is it in WinCE still possible to use the steering wheel buttons, meaning can I learn the device the function of the buttons, just as in Android?

Thanks for your answers.
[Android Head-Units] schraub:
Okay i think i will try the reflowing with headgun. And if i fry i will buy a new board. :crying:

Whats the right distance between the gun an the board?

Does it make a difference if i buy a new one which is made for the s150 ... Is it even possible to connect it with my s100?
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Music should be in a folder called Music.

You can shuffle al your music, not just one album. It depends on how you search to a song; if you search a song through a album or artist, the player only plays the songs from the album or artist. When you select a song in the list with all your songs on the USB or sd card, you can play all songs randomly. At least, so does it work on my device.
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
You can buy the s150 board and load android 2.3, 4.03 or wince, i did it on my c001 unit but...

I never liked android 2.34 it crash too often for my taste.

I had the same sound problem just after 6 months and for this i switched back to wince now.

So you will be not safe anyway if you want to run 4.03.
[Android Head-Units] mitsucats:
Hello

I have my unit since marts and so far I have no problem with the sound or anything else. Only the bugs in the software. I have around 1 hour drive to and from work everyday and nothing.

I am using android 4.03 i would also like to try wince but there is no good navigation software
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
IGO Primo the best
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I usually flash the MCU included in the rom. There is some info about the diverences in the MCU's in this thread. But I cant tell you exactly what they are. I myself use the 1.6.9 version with the included MCU. If you don't like Wince you can go back to Android. You just need a fused sd with the Android rom. The inatructions for this are also on KoTix's blogspot.

Steeringwheel controls and Canbus related stuff also works on WinCE.
[Android Head-Units] schraub:
Okay so every board have the same size and will fit in my S100 C246?

Do you know how much it will cost?
[Android Head-Units] stief:
Hey KoTix

Thanx for the new skinpack. I was using the russian version, but good to finally have the icons on the main screen fixed.

The Ntrogen skin also looks good.

But there is one small problem with the skin (at least with my uit) The tools menu doesn't show any icons. The screen is empty, but when I touch the place where the Icon should be it works. Zo the menu itself works but the Icons are not showing.

I even tried clean firmware install and applied your skin without my own modifications but the result is the same.

Luckily I don't use the tools menu very often :D
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Uhm... what model you have? and which skin are you using?
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I have the C074 and using skin4
[Android Head-Units] louwoort:
skin pack missing icons

Hi guys,

I have the same problem here. (C230 Mitsubishi Outlander)

I don't know if this is te problem, but looking in the MainIcon.xml file, the first button is pointing to:

<uppath>\S100UI\主界面\Buttons\BT-toolsOff.png</uppath>

<dnpath>\S100UI\主界面\Buttons\BT-toolsDN.png</dnpath>

<selpath>\S100UI\主界面\Buttons\BT-toolsON.png</selpath>

In the Buttons folder however the BT-toolsOff.png is missing and so are other "Off" png's .

Also i found dat S100GUIEditor is not happy with the "Font=0011" in the <Text> section.

It shows no icons at all, but I dont know what KOTIX is using for development. Maybe S100GUIeditor is to old for the new firmware?

But when removing the Font part (like in older skins) it works again (if you add a BT-toolsOff.png).

<Text>

<name LocX="200" LocY="3" width="200" height="33" StringID="20100" Format="DT_SINGLELINE|DT_CENTER|DT_VCENTER" Font="0011"/>

</Text>

Grtz,

Louwoort.
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Are we talking about the tools button in main menu screen or the buttons in the tools screen?
[Android Head-Units] stief:
Butons in the Tools menu.

Just noticed the settings menu is also empty. I'm getting a black screen
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Wierd... Everything work here... Uhm..
[Android Head-Units] schraub:
Hi again,

i could bring my device back to life. I used the oven method to reflow my board.

I dont know how long it will take til the board is broken again but here is the description if someone want to try the same method:

1. To prepare your board, do the same steps user np27np27 explained on page 340. -> Protect all unnessesary parts with aluminium foil

2. Heat up you oven to 210 degree Celsius - i used the mode with head form up and above (dont know the english word for that) but maybe the fan mode also works

3. put some aluminium foil on your baking tray. Then use some aluminium foil to make 4 small balls (around 3 cm size) and put your board on it.

4. If the oven is heated up, put the tray in it.

5. Wait 8-10 minuies, then turn the oven off and open the oven door. Do NOT move the board or the tray.

6. Wait around 45 minutes - let it cool down

Finish

[MENTION=1597906]np27np27[/MENTION]: thank you for the detailed tutorial and the pictures:)
[Android Head-Units] stief:
Just did a reflash of my Unit and the same results
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
I probably uploaded a bad file... I'll check it when i get home
[Android Head-Units] np27np27:
Excellent :D

Others take note, two confirmed ways to fix the sound problems.

Can the OP please add my post with the heat gun fix and this post with the oven fix to the opening post?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
The only thing i noticed is that the new firmware have these new files:

ToolButton_AVT.xml

ToolIcon_AVT.xml

ToolIcon_AVT_C307.xml

and for settings:

SetupIcon_AVT.xml

SetupIcon_AVT_C201.xml

SetupIcon_DYT.xml

SetupIcon_DYT_C201.xml

GPSPathShow_comm_C307.xml

Could you please try to add them in the skin4 proper folders and tell me if you see something?

tnx :)
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I'll try tomorrow and let you know
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I copied them to de correct subfolders in skin4 and upated and aplied skin4. But no change.

Dind't have time to invesitgate more. I'll try some more tomorrow
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
In the italian kia forum some guys have installed skin4 without issues on c074.

Don't know what else to think, just check that alla the xml files like toolsicon1.xml and toolsicon2.xml are present.

Better if you can compare the files with original skin.
[Android Head-Units] Balu2910:
Seat Ibiza

Hi, i'm new here and I just wondered if here's somebody, driving a seat ibiza 6J with the S100 or the S150 device.

In addition to that I have some several questions:

Should I take the S100 or the S150 device for my Seat Ibiza ?

What about the Canbus- Does it show for example a message when i open a door?

Voice commands - Is it possible to call sb. or text sb. via voice ?

How's the music quality ?

Can i install Navigon on the S100 ?

Does both devices have TMC ?

Does screen mirroring work with my Galaxy S5?(on the S100 / S150)

Best regards Lukas

P.S. Where is the best place to buy the radios?
[Android Head-Units] 1mdl:
http://www.carnaviplayer.com/android-os-navigation-radio-player-for-nissan-all-series-p-1027
[Android Head-Units] cybertix:
Hi Balu2910,

I have a Winca S100 for Seat Ibiza 6J.

Should I take the S100 or the S150 device for my Seat Ibiza ?

-> No matter since you can convert a S100 to Android (like me). By the way, Winca officially released an Android 4 version for Seat Ibiza :)

What about the Canbus- Does it show for example a message when i open a door?

-> The Canbus is used for steering wheel control, ignition key detection and to show a message when you open a door.

Voice commands - Is it possible to call sb. or text sb. via voice ?

-> I don't know, I can check...

How's the music quality ?

-> Rather satisfactory ! There are many settings to improve audio quality.

Can i install Navigon on the S100 ?

-> I think you can use Navigon. I use Igo on Android.

Does screen mirroring work with my Galaxy S5?(on the S100 / S150)

-> I don't know.
[Android Head-Units] mitsucats:
The s100/s150 have not the TMC, to use that you need to be online to internet all the time
[Android Head-Units] DSGVW:
Debating on switching my S150 to WinCE. I know it's possible as per this thread, but any real user reviews that have made this switch? I'm getting tired of Android, it's slow and it won't auto-play my music upon starting the car (aftermarket app) and I hate the stock android music player. I tend to not use the android functions of it at all and wondering if WinCE will be snappier/faster and more user friendly.

Can anyone give me advise for or against doing this?

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Some people are experiencing hardware faults like no audio from android, this is due to overheating of the cpu caused by android.

I'm experiencing this too and this is my main reason because i don't want to replace another cpu board.

Beside this, wince is faster in booting, recognizing usb sticks and mostly all other things but more than anything else... it never crash!

In newest wince firmware Winca have added the function to store the radio stations by rds name instead of frequency numbers.

A russian guy have reworked the audio player Nitrogen making it perfectly integrated with the unit, even the swc controls work.

All the android apps are nice but most of them are unusefull on a car unit, most are just phone centrated.

So I'm stopped right now with android and restarted working on my skins :)

Ciao :)
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Back to WinCE

Hi,

At the moment I am installing WinCE, but for more than 10 minutes it says "Now update NK, please wait several minutes". How long is several minutes? Can I shut the device down and try again?

Bootimage has been updated, so does the logo.

Thanks.

Edit:

It seems like Android is running, because when I turn the volume, the Android bar at the top appears. Also, I hear a hiss from the speakers, which goes away when I press mute.

Is the update going well or is something wrong?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
To be safe wait 20 minutes total flash time.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Hmm, I have now waited for almost 30 minutes, but still the same message unfortunately. Any other tips? I used the 1.6.9.18 Firmware from the C149 and used the 2nd version from the UpdateXML programm to set it to my device C016-1

Edit:

I just stopped the installation and looked what would happen if I started the device. At first I see the VW-logo, but soon after that, the screen has gray-white stripes on the sides, the VW logo still sort of visible.

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Installation went the second time a lot better and faster. I reformatted the sd card and after that the installation went fine.

Only question I now have is, where is the RDS and AF? I don't see anything in the radio of this, only the current frequency and buttons the scroll between the stored frequencies. I have to select a frequency on the scale, there are no buttons to go from one frequency to another. Is this normal for the default skin or is something else wrong?

Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] elektrikal:
Wher did you find the wince 1.6.9 version ??
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Page 363, post #3622.

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Hey Kotix,

How did you fix your device with the white screen? I put my sd card with Android in the device, but so far, no luck and still a white screen. Thank you.
[Android Head-Units] elektrikal:
Thanks I foud it
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
I thought you had wince running fine...

I had the white screen because i flashed a bad firmware found on russian forum, this is the correct one that i suppose you have used , right?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e3t8qm8g5oy988x/C149 1.6.9.18 F00N S00E.rar?dl=0

To fix the white screen problem i beleive is not necessary to go back to android, but just flash the right fw disabling the touchscreen calibration in update.xml.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
I did, but there was no RDS info and that was the whole point for me to try WinCE.

I used this version indeed. Will try again now. I should mention that I was able to reinstall Android, because I saw the update screen at the end saying to remove the sd card, but at restart, again a white screen. Does this unfortunately mean I bricked my device? My reverse camera also is not showing, again white screen.

EDIT:

It works! I thought to just try again a normal startup and the VW logo came on and then Android started. So for now, everything is back as it was.

But, referring back to the RDS. How does it come there is no RDS? I thought the radio would look something like this:

[IMG="Radio with RDS"]http://www.navaudio.nl/product_images/uploaded_images/digitale-radio.jpg[/IMG]
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Means to me that you have probably flashed a wrong mcu..

did you flash your original android firmware and now you have white screen?

Anyway rds in wince can be enable in setupdatexml.exe setting it to "open" or in "General Settings" -> device settings (can't remember the right name) the one protected with password 1234.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
See my previous post, it has been solved. Thank you.

Anything about the RDS (see previous post)?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
rds in wince can be enable in setupdatexml.exe setting it to "open" or in "General Settings" -> device settings (can't remember the right name) the one protected with password 1234.

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Here is a small update of the nitrogen skin:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu6c5xocnuohuiy/skin4.sk2?dl=0
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Duhh, sorry, I should have seen that.

But is it possible to give the radio the same looks as this:

[IMG="Radio S100"]http://www.navaudio.nl/product_images/uploaded_images/digitale-radio.jpg[/IMG]
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
we canot see the picture
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
That is exactly what you normally have in wince.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Oh, it didn't look like that by me. Perhaps still the wrong firmware or MCU?
[Android Head-Units] Balu2910:
Hi kotix, is it possible to integrate Google now or any other voice command program to the s100?
[Android Head-Units] stief:
What did it look like?

Maybe you where in list mode?
[Android Head-Units] DJorgio:
Does WincE support FLAC? If it does i might go back.
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
With Nitrogen player you have FLAC playback
[Android Head-Units] amg80:
Agree that is the standard radio

whats yours look like?
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Not like that. See the attachment.

Perhaps I did have the wrong firmware, because also the mediaplayer didn't list my songs and when I tried iGo, the iGo-screen came and went every time I touched the screen.

But according to the png-files in the firmware, I now should have the right one (meaning the files for the radio). Will try somewhere next week, don't have the time right now to fiddle around a lot if something goes wrong this time again.

And is it with this FW possible to store the radio frequencies under the RDS name instead of the frequency itself and will the AF work?
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I think you just need to scan for the stations again. You should see RDS names then.

If you select list en select a stored frequency it should change in the RDS name.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Well, the problem was the only way to select a frequency was to carefully put my finger at the slider to place it on the desired frequency. There were no buttons to scroll to the next good frequency, as you can see in the attachment of my previous post.
[Android Head-Units] stief:
I see a prev. and next button in de picture. Ast would scan for stations I think. And you have list.
[Android Head-Units] lonnebol:
Nope, these buttons were to go the next or previous stored station in the list.
[Android Head-Units] mam66:
Dear All, I have just bought a S-150 device with Android 4.0.3 for Renault / Dacia (I157 model).

Have anyone the same model ? Is it possibile to install WinCE or Kotix firmware on this device ?

I have also those sw problems:

a) Google Market show a server error when downloding or upgrading apps (error DF-SA-01). Now I installed Aptoide and I bypassed the problem

b) Radio works well but stations were stored with frequency name instead of RDS name

c) Rear Camera works well if I call the Video Recorder app and select "camera" as video source but don't start automatically when i put the reverse gear

Anyone has some advices for me ?

Best regards

Maurizio
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
AST-press short and it begin to search and store every available stations

The arrows have 2 functions:

1.Press short jump to net station memorised

2,Press long start search for the next station

RDS-press short and enter in RDS stations menu
[Android Head-Units] cybertix:
Hi All,

Finally, I got the official Android firmware for Seat Ibiza 6J, but when I try to flash my S100, I got this :

Finding update package...

Opening update package...

Verifying update package...

E: signature verification failed

Do you know what's wrong ?

Thanks for your help !
[Android Head-Units] nunomangas:
Hi All

Someone knows this firmware? www.navisson.es

It seems that is based on s100.

The units have the same hardware.

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Hi

Can someone post igo primo for s100?

Thank you
[Android Head-Units] amg80:
Exactly that is how it works. press for a longer period and it will move to the next station (in frequency)

with the new firmware it saves the rds name in the list option.

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I think it is kind of skin created by a company but it has the same issues as the s100 system. The radio function may be faster a bit faster in the sense of looking for radio stations than the S100 but thats all
[Android Head-Units] 1mdl:
http://forum.mobilism.org/viewforum.php?f=653
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
That is the "MyDean" skin for S100, you need the mydean firmware for it (5.7.1.4)
[Android Head-Units] np27np27:
What is the mydean firmware? Is it for s100/s150? Do you have a link?
[Android Head-Units] kokos1405:
Help please!

I tried to go back from android 4.03 (kotix 2.4) to wince.

The process started ok flashed MCU(I hear the beeps) but when i removed the SD card the screen went from the known White to black.

The radio music play but i have black screen. When i turn on the car lights i can see some of the screen with the white stripes.

It seems like a bad Mcu Flash.

But when i try to flash again WINCE or Android i can't cause it seems to ignore the gps slot. It seems to boot strait to the radio.

How can i force it to boot from the GPS Slot?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
When it flash mcu you should see the mcu app running with the dots on bottom of the screen increasing and at the end it will ask you to remove the card.

Are you fusing the sdcard correctly with sdboot or sdflasher and with the right bootloaders?
[Android Head-Units] kokos1405:
Ok fixed! I replaced the Mcu files of the firmware provided here with my original unit mcu and forced the update by pressing Src & reset. so now everything seem ok!

I then installed the skin manager and the second skin and I believe I do not see some letters-words!, as already mentioned here by another member!

Is that ok?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
A new skin pack is uploading....
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
where, where?? :D
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Here is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rw2rdy7q7dd9plr/S100 Skinpack 26.10.2014.rar?dl=0

This is the changelog:

26.10.2014

- Fixed Nitrogen launch as extra app

- Moved audio player and nitrogen playlist button to match radio list position

- Better radio keyboard

- Some skinmanager fixes

- Added names to Skinmanager and Nitrogen icons in extra app

- maybe other things, i din't remember....

Extentially now you can have nitrogen as extra app, as default player or both at the same time.

If you already have skinmanager installed , please go in skintool and select "Install/Update Extras...." so you'll have latest version installed too.

Enjoy for now and please report bugs if you find them :)
[Android Head-Units] costinradu:
Well done Kotix!

I looking forward for a black/red skin or black/white.One that will not be so bright at night.I think black/red or black/white have the best contrast for a car multimedia unit.

Keep up the good work Kotix.We all thank you for your work!
[Android Head-Units] mitsucats:
Hello

I have few question and i am also thinking to go back to Wince because it is not so stabil anymore and since Sygic have make a new update

the software dont work so good anymore and quit evry 5-15 minuten.

Now to the question.

What software is there for Navi other than Igo . ?

And what do i need to do to go back from android 4.03
[Android Head-Units] junior2001:
Radio page for ford fiesta

Hello Kotix! could you modify the attached file (ford fiesta radio page) to get it more similar to your skin? it s only one png file file but i don t know how to do. I would really appreciate your help! thank you

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/109854247/radiofiesta.zip
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Please take a screenshot of that screen because i have no idea how it looks like when it's running.
[Android Head-Units] junior2001:
it looks like this. My unit doesn't have am fm receiver so it uses the original car one. It's only a fronted that reads the preset number and frequency by original car stereo (fiesta) and shows it on screen