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[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Remember, after the update, we need to check first:

*If actual root can work

*Make a system copy and libs, (for begin development)

*check if the bootloader changue, or the recovery, the versions of kernel

All of us can push up the development :D

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[RAZR i General] Hazou:
Would be very Nice, but read the terms first. Maybe you aren't allowed to do this. But what would the do about that :P
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Ajja yeaa....what would they do about that xD

An inocent leak for us, for waiting alot :P

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
well they could ban you from the testing program, or start legal actions if they want (they wont).

by the way does anybody has the guideme.apk or something like that from the retail br rom? I don't want to flash a sbf just for one app :p
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Thats correct, well i didnt suscribe to the testing program, cause i cant go back to stock for now, but i know no one gonna make a leak and everything gonna be fine (sarcasm)

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Well, no 4.4.3 for us for now
[RAZR i General] patoberli:
Is 4.4.3 even out as source code? But even if we don't get it, maybe they patch a few of the fixed bugs between 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
I guess that they will release the 4.4.3 for us, but later. It's a small update, supposed to only fix some bugs. Probably will be an update of ~80MB from .2 to .3!
[RAZR i General] TheShortOfIt:
Well the good point is, that we should see the update soon if the development is already that far :)
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
Update will hit moto HD and M very soon!

source: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-and-m-to-receive-kitkat-in-a-few-more-weeks/
[RAZR i General] Csacsifiu:
Wrong thread. This is Razr i section. The both phone have Qualcomm chipset. We have intel x86 chipset. Very different.
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Nop, its correct. They bpth are the 2012 Droid line, also for us, so, if they update its near, also for us :)

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[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
Maybe I'm wrong, but do you remember that Razr's I, HD and M were launched almost together? I guess we might receive the 4.4 at the same time that HD and M. Maybe a little bit later. In the previous months, David Schuster said they were working on the 4.4 for the Razr I, but didn't mention the HD and M. That's what I said, I think these 3 Razr's will receive together!
[RAZR i General] raol.xh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykGIH1AEUHY

hope they will launch our update too...
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
I hope the development for our phone begin to increase with kitkat update :/... I really want to see a paranoid rom build for the phone, or a pac rom....or cyanogen....or whatever T.T jajajaj, so much exciting :)

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[RAZR i General] radekt_cz:
So in 4 days we should get the update, otherwise :mad: :)
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
Here in Brazil, Motorola has just announced that the Razr's D1 and D3 (smaller brothers from the Razr I), will receive the KK till June. So, that's what I thought, Motorola will release the updates for Razr I, HD, M, D1 and D3 almost together... or together. And I really hope that this happen ASAP.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
June? Damn 8 months later.

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[RAZR i General] billah420:
Looks like we'll be seeing kit kat on the RAZR I soon.

According to motorola's support page, the moto g is in the process of kit kat roll out so i assume, once all the moto g have been updated, kk should start getting rolled out on the razr i.

Fingers crossed......
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
I'm curious if will we get ART RUNTIME. Maybe someone can ask ?

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[RAZR i General] radekt_cz:
Do you think, KK will include Czech language? I am asking because previous versions, ICS, JB were without Czech.
[RAZR i General] Lucki_X:
You can be sure, that it will be without Czech language.

May be, if somebody will be able to make Cyanogenmod.

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[RAZR i General] ryansmith1995:
Any news?
[RAZR i General] rickozx:
Yes everybody is running kit kat and it's great, but we don't tell here it's top secret ! :rolleyes:
[RAZR i General] omiez:
A friend of mine contacted Motorola via chat because his phone died and asked if kk is coming and when. They answered that end of June it will be released.
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
Yes because that's the end of Q2, the estimated quarter which has already been confirmed by David on G+.
[RAZR i General] omiez:
Can you link G+ of David?
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster

Discussions of the RAZR I are on different posts.
[RAZR i General] radekt_cz:
From G+:

"RAZR i is making good progress and is going into the final testing phase which precedes the carrier lab testing cycles. I will give you guys an update when we are close to entering some of the carrier labs. Thanks for being patient.... ﻿"
[RAZR i General] purplet:
So suddenly there is frequent updates? I'm starting to like moto again.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
Frequent updates... that's really good. This really makes my mind, if it's worth it to buy a Samsung in my next smartphone, because it was/is a reference in Android updates!
[RAZR i General] hotwill:
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[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Is it soak testing yet?
[RAZR i General] Shinobu-Kenji:
tonight i was surffing in the motorola's home source and i read some interesting:

sourceforge.net/projects/razr-i.motorola

cp hardware/intel/linux-2.6/arch/x86/configs/i386_mfld_moto_defconfig $PWD/out/target/product/smi/kernel_build/.config && /home/gopi/bin/make -C hardware/intel/linux-2.6 O=$PWD/out/target/product/smi/kernel_build ARCH=i386 CROSS_COMPILE=$PWD/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/i686-android-linux-4.4.3/bin/i686-android-linux- defoldconfig

can be this an error o maybe we keep the hope on with 4.4.3?
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
haha, would be nice, but that's the compiler toolchain version, not the actual android version or we would have android version 4.8 by now ;)

The only way to know if android 4.4 would be getting close and u would look only at this line, the "linux-2.6" needs to change to "linux-3.X"
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
I really hope that Motorola bring us the 4.4.3. The version 4.4.2 has a lot of bugs reported by users, as Wifi signal drop, drop in 3G signal, and some other issues. The .3 corrected all this issues.
[RAZR i General] ICuaI:
It will be definitely 4.4.2

https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/8a12jqd9Jna
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Well, no Q2....early Q3. We have to wait only a bit more..

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[RAZR i General] purplet:
All I can sincerely hope is that if they delay it that far that they fix the .2 bugs and give us a stable base
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
[OTA Captured] KitKat Soak Test Now Live for the Droid RAZR HD!

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/ota-captured-kitkat-soak-test-now-live-for-the-droid-razr-hd/

Here comes our turn!
[RAZR i General] DrLamok:
David Schuster: We plan to upgrade RAZR i to KitKat as stated on our support pages and are actively working on it. We had some challenges getting support from our chipset vendor but are now on the right track. We hope to get it out to you guys by early Q3.﻿
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Im sure some will be pissed about this but the fact that they kept working on our device regardless of the issues its quite remarkable, the guys at samsung decided to leave behind the s3 and the s3 mini, devices that were as old as our razr, and even more expensive, so kudos for them

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[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Exactly
[RAZR i General] PatricioJP:
Perdón, no entiendo lo del "Q3"

Sorry, do not understand what the "Q3" :confused:
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
3rd quarter of this year.

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[RAZR i General] francois64:
From June to end of September. capito ?
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Huh? It was supposed to be Q2 I thought?!?
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
That was apparently for the razr m and hd, not the 'I' (xt890). No one really asked they just assumed is was for the razr i too. But yesterday someone did ask and got a reply saying we'll get it in q3
[RAZR i General] wedgess:
Lets please keep all OT out of this thread and stay on topic which is Motorola 4.4. Thanks

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[RAZR i General] neandertaler19:
Well, as the post by David Schuster on G+ said, they had problems getting support from Intel, but they seemed to have managed that now. I think we should just be glad to be getting any support at all.

And I guess if there is a 4.4.2 build from Motorola, a 4.4.3 from the community won't be far.
[RAZR i General] yostyle:
afraid...

I was reading over the net the comments of who already had the update on RAZR m, and hd. They say shorter battery life, longer time to charge, instable WiFi an network or even not working, ad other minor bugs... I know that with major updates often is needed a factory reset, but damn, all this problems? I hope our update will be better! What do u think guys? I'm afraid...:eek:
[RAZR i General] BoredDude:
Don't worry, the stock may seem stable, but it actually has a lot of glitches and problems, however we have marvelous devs and rom makers like hazou and omar avelar, Omar's rom is so much better than the original stock, and even thought this update will cause a lot of problems, we can hope that motorola fixes them or maybe here in xda, don't worry.

Besides, this update opens the door to cyanogen mod, and other roms, maybe paranoid android or omnirom, it's a really positive thing and i can't wait for it to arrive.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
But I really hope they solve this problems before releasing. That's the reason why I'd like they upgrade the Razr I to 4.4.3 as soon as possible. A friend of mine, which has a Moto G 4.4.2, reported the same problems with wifi...
[RAZR i General] THE-E:
Remember that the RAZR i has different hardware and therefore is mostly independent from other developments. The glitches and bugs may occur in the firmware of some models, but may have different result on our device.

greets

THE-E
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
I had to go back to my RAZRi for a week while my iPhone 5 was in for the power button recall. There were a few things I liked about android and missed and was happy to have again, like global sound EQ, but what I really did not like at all was the LAG (!!). It made me just give up in frustration several times and wish I had my iphone back. I guess with years of android devices I just never knew what a lag-less experience felt like. Now lag makes me so frustrated! I hope that Moto does whatever they can to reduce lag in 4.4.
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
I dont have any lag on the Razr i since i have custom roms ._., maybe soome random fc's but no lag

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[RAZR i General] quincyquinn:
I don't have any lag with my RAZR i maybe you're holding yours wrong are you sure your not holding it upside down or backwards or something, the glass bit with the images has to face you and make sure for the home button icon is at the bottom of the glass screen? You did turn it on first because this would cause lag as well.
[RAZR i General] rodrigoauditore:
That was so uncalled for. I notice lag every now and then too, but I wouldnt call the whole experience laggy
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
Yea. I don't know about you but my whole family has iphones and they always complain about lag
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
I don't see any link with 4.4 upgrade anymore. Can we go back to the subject, and wait since no one has any news ?

If it seems totally logical to you comparing a 150€ phone with a 700€ phone, I suggest you do that somewhere else :)

Personally the simple fact that you do this comparison makes me really happy with my choice :)
[RAZR i General] leonelsr:
I recently concluded that Wifi in Brazil usually sucks. At school (A Federal University) all my devices' wifi connections works flawlessly, everything is beautiful. PC, Android Tablet, Android Phone...

At home, shops, cafés it always sucks. I rarely get 5 bars, the connection is always laggy (it can be FAST, but always with a lot of latency).

Turns out that at school we have a bunch of Motorola AP-7131N Dual Band Tri-Radio 6-Antenna high end wireless access points.

A quick search revealed its price: US$ 1126,00 on Newegg, a little more on Amazon. On eBay you can find it for as little as US$ 750,00

While at home, at least here in Brazil, everybody has a US$ 25,00 D-Link DIR300, or at top its sucessor DIR-600 which is crap. My DIR-615 (which costs around US$ 40,00, but when I bought I paid more than R$ 200,00 =~ US$ 100,00) starts to lose performance with 8 clients connected. The box says it's limited to 16 clients, where it just doesn't work anymore.

Some Access Points from the ISPs are a little better. The one that GVT uses is very good, even though it's single-radio single-band single-internal-antenna, it's better than the D-Link DIR-615.

SOME devices get along well with crap Access Points. My ex's iPhone always had bars in every room of my home, for example. On the other hand, it already happened the opposite in bars and restaurants: my Razr i could get signal, but her iPhone couldn't. I *guess* its just a matter of LUCK.

BTW, Wifi is the only thing that works better on stock than on Omar's ROM for me :(. Everything else is better on Omar's ;~~

(again, sorry for the possibly not-so-good English)
[RAZR i General] raol.xh:
really? i dare you to get from morning to evening with 35% battery remaining with your lagless iphone(3g always on).there is nothing your iphone can do that my razr i can't.to optimize the razr i just keep the stock rom,rooted,remove blootware and grenify all the apps you don't use...i dnt use custom roms anymore.stock is the best for me.
[RAZR i General] purplet:
Comparing to the new iphone 5s my dad got at work there is lag. Its all about your point of view, in two years of time the 5s will feel laggy.

That RAZR gets stuck because of only 1gb of ram there is times it takes like 4to5 seconds to load the browser or sometime the home screen. Its.smooth otherwise, more so with custom kernel but the iOS always was and still is superior on smoothness and once u got there u will notice a difference.

Greenify and stock over chrome helps, though.
[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
That's Why we wait for kitkat here. To get rid off the last few lags ;)

Should have brought us back on topic...

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[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/06/04/motorola-rolling-out-android-4-4-3/

Do you think razr I will get 4.4.3 too? I think yes
[RAZR i General] bracima:
I don't think so.

We will get 4.4.2 2 years before the launch of the Razr I, to much time fore another update.
[RAZR i General] patoberli:
The chance for 4.4.3 is very slim. The next release will be 4.4.2, confirmed by a Motorola guy. I don't think we will receive another update after that one.
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
For PR reason its possible, drivers are the same, only small changes not too much effort for Motorola :)
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Doubt it.

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[RAZR i General] neandertaler19:
Drivers might be the same, but you still need to test the new build and that usually takes up quite some time and additionally you have to get providers to approve.

If I remember right, David Schuster only said, they are working on 4.4.2 now to stay on schedule. But I don't think we will recieve 4.4.3 after that.
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
We can build CM based on 4.4.2. I don't think 4.4.3 will be any visible difference over 4.4.2.

In

Most important question for me is do we get ART and will it improve performance? Chrome lagging is main reason for me to think about changing phone.

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[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
We might get ART, but it still is experimental on kitkat.

Don't change Phone but Browser. Dolphin running excellent ever since...

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[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
yeah chrome has become slow since a year of updates or so. I applied some tricks to speed it up though. Try the following: in settings>privacy, disable Navigation error suggestions and also disable Search and URL suggestions. Also add a bookmark to about:blank and add it to you desktop and use it to start chrome instead of the default icon.

This all makes it pretty usable again.
[RAZR i General] alexcisse10:
Yeah

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And the 4.4.3 ?
[RAZR i General] sky0165:
There's no reason for 4.4.3 on RAZR i since it was a bugfix for Nexus devices and new app dialer.
[RAZR i General] KREAT0R:
Do not go crazy, if you upgrade to thank.
[RAZR i General] xianuro:
And what makes you say there will be a CM? It's been stablished time and time again that the problem is NOT the lack of stock firmware/updates, the problem lies in the fact that there are no official sources and/or drivers to work with.

There are specific threads for some of topics that have been discussed lately, can we please stay on topic here? :good:
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Hey all,

Do you know if this upgrade to kit kat will allow us to use miracast on our RAZR I ?

I cannot understand if this is just a software issue and if it is a standard feature in kit Kat... But it appears not to be in our jelly bean and cannot find any app to add support... Looks like the OS needs an extra something:(
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
It has been confirmed that we won't have it due to intel supporting another standar, sorry m8.

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[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
So even we don't have WiDi we can't have Miracast or Chromecast??
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Arf... Thanks for the answer ! So you know what is this "other standard" supported by Intel ?

If only a standard could be... standard...
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
I suppose he meant WiDi.
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Re-arf, so this update will not allow us to mirror our android on a TV I guess :(
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Yeah widi for us.

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[RAZR i General] :
Anyone know if we gonna have ART compilation? From kitkat?

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
I asked several times but got no answer, imho its hard, seeing how only qualcomm devices got it, (exynos got 4.4 but no art)

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[RAZR i General] neandertaler19:
Of course we (will) have Chromcast. It already works now since it is not dependent on the chipset...
[RAZR i General] purplet:
I am using Chromecast too and it really works well, upnp works(always) too with no problems .using bubble upnp there is nothing that the phone cannot stream.

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[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Except the whole screen of the phone... Right ?
[RAZR i General] Hip Hop:
yes, to make such transmission would require the unit had hdmi support, the chromecast serves to transmit media files.
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Any news? I cant see the G+ of David Schuter anymore i dont know why :/

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Lots of questions about the status of razr i... no answers yet...
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
What part of the last message concerning the razr i is unclear?
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
If Moto actually follows through and gives us the RAZR i KitKat update, I'll probably get an X+1 (if it has an SD slot) or the new MotoG. Otherwise I guess I'll just stick with iPhone for now.
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
Sorry for ot but one more word about Your iPhone and some little panda gonna die. If You love it so much just stick with it and stop glorifying it so much.
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
Latest KitKat news from David on G+
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
So september? Damn....

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[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Q3 starts in July. But it could very well arrive in August or even September.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
It wasn't very clear to me. So, how is it gonna be: we'll receive the 4.4.2, and after, during Q3, they'll release the updates (.3 and .4) OR we'll receive directly the 4.4.4, but we'll receive that later than we expected?
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
We will receive 4.4.2 with some security patches from new versions. That's it.
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
Sigh. At least we got an update on the situation.
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
I asked David what is the average time for lab testing, this was his reply:

If the original update before this security patch delay was originally estimated for a early Q3 (July) release, so I would put my bets on for a September release now.
[RAZR i General] omiez:
Things happens but it is taking long times really. I understand that security is good excuse but i am thinking about to jump on a N device.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
September... When Moto X+1, Samsung Note 4, Nexus 6 and iPhone 6 are gonna be released! Oh God...
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
I come back here every once and a while to see if it might be worth plugging in my formerly beloved RAZR i - to no avail. Incredible to realize that NINE months ago when I switched to iPhone we were still wondering when/if we would ever get kitkat update. My iPhone has received five updates in that time and is now solid beyond belief and will be updated regularly for at least the next three years. The Android update model is broken.
[RAZR i General] totex71:
Please, take you're icrap and shove it up somewhere so freaking far we wont hear a word from you here again about you're **** phone. Thanks!
[RAZR i General] arman68:
No need to be rude. I use both android and iOS devices, and although I prefer android by far, iolinux333 is right: the state of android upgrades is deplorable. I have owned many android devices; all of them without exception had the problems that there were far behind the official latest version of android, and became obsolete far too soon due to manufacturers not wanting to update them. Funnily for all of this, they always use the excuse that the it's the carrier fault due to all the testing required...
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
Yeah sure, if you have no problems with overpriced hardware and peripherals, also restrictive OS and censored store content, also unsocial company behavior and let's not forget non fixable devices that allows no recycling of any hardware parts or what so ever,

Yes sure, great update model, very nice
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
your*

and stop being rude..xda is a forum and every user can say whatever he wants..if you don't like what someone says then just ignore him..I would be happy owning an iphone too you know.
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
Ok, ok someone likes iOS, other one Android but it's not compare thread but KK for XT890 so stick with it.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
True, the state of Android upgrades is awful, but is getting better, the Atrix didn't get any update past the initial one, while we are going to get 4.4 (thats 4 mayor android versions, or 2 if you take into account the fact that our device was on an older version when released), not only that, but now there are more choices besides the nexus (moto x, moto g, and GPE editions phones) also Android one phones (announced today) also we got more updates from the playstore (chrome, youtube, hangouts, home drawer, Music player (does someone remember the one we got last year? awful) google play, google now, android device manager, calendar, maps, etc etc).
[RAZR i General] pirast:
Maybe they can just wait and directly ship Lollypop. Looks amazing :) :)
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
No Android L for us.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
I'd appreciate kitkat nonetheless. So many popular phones not even getting this, do we should be grateful.
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
I agree. I'll defiantly enjoy KitKat and its improvements until the end of this year when I will switch to an L Release device.