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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Loureiro:
Google did support Galaxy Nexus for 18 months, It's a EOL product now.

If I would like to have Kitkat officially? hell yes.

I'm in position to demand Google to release KitKat to Galaxy Nexus? No, they just fullfilled what they claimed, 18 months of support.

Being sad for not having this release is reasonable, but being angry and make all this noise for not having it, please lol.

I Would be angry with my Nexus 4 for not having fullscreen wallpaper. Google restricted that to Nexus 5. I Would like to know which hardware limitation has nexus 4 for not having that great feature.

This is pretty simple. You want kitkat by google, buy a newer nexus. Don't expect Google to "babysit" you as longer as you want

I'll stick with my Maguro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Shubhamqweasd:
we just installed the new launcher from nexus 5 images , and 'ok google' , and full screen wallpapers works already , only a software thing :D, come to nexus 4 forum for app links :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kinderko1000:
Lol :D everybody doesnt have money for New Phone every year
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Loureiro:
Glad to hear that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brunobliss:
Sign the petition !

GNex users, here's the petition you NEED to sign:

http://www.change.org/petitions/google-update-the-galaxy-nexus-with-android-4-4-kitkat#

MAke it sticky, make it on the first post, MAKE IT HAPPEN !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
When people say 18 months of updates they must mean 18 months of bug patches, gnex only got 1 major update an that was jellybean from ice cream sandwich, Also I'm not happy with 4.3 as its still buggy, my gnex constantly notifies me of bug reports daily on stock 4.3.Google could have at least finished off the gnex with an update that's stable an bug free before abandoning us.The nexus 5 looks like garbage in my opinion, I'm seriously liking the iPhone 5S, I don't think anything comes close or beats the iPhone 5s in benchmarks an looks that's currently out there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alpha-niner64:
I'm glad it's a vocal minority that's kicking up a storm over what was a logical conclusion to the phone. Plus, the phone still feels snappy and still is a very productive device. No doubt(like the Nexus S), that this phone won't be going away from the development circuit any time soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shencez:
So sad with the fact that there will be no updates for the galaxy nexus to android 4.4 kitkat. But I guess we only have developers to rely on for the upcoming updates. Will have more support for these developers in the future.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tshelby73:
My 2 cents. If support stops developers move on to devices with support. I found this out quick with Motorola devices.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] misterk267:
I think that's a bit different, since we have an unlocked bootloader and Motos typically don't. But still, I see your point.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tshelby73:
Another thought. I'm on Verizon which hasn't got 4.3 yet and even though it's been ported from gsm version nobody can get the radios to work completely right cause the correct ones for the version are not available and make a deal breaker if always losing signal. It still has to work as a phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] longkas:
Google, you hurt my heart :mad:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] refthemc:
Apophis 4.3.1 AOKP builds have been handling data well lately. Still sucks that Verizon has yet to give us the official update though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
That won't do a damn thing. I don't know why you guys have to make a Change.org thing for everything as if enough signatures make things magically happen. That's now how the real world works and its time to grow up.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
True but OEM often times have a lot of features that stock Google. Also one thing I like about the OEM phones is the option to flash aosp/stock ROMs. Even still really wish Samsung was quicker with updates. Hell I would be happy with what Miui does which is weekly updates. They don't get upgraded android but they fix bugs and add features. In any case I am running touchwiz 4.3 ROM on my note. Hopefully will see kit kat in less than a year.

I am running kit kat 4.4. on my note 2000
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shriom_manerker:
another reason of not getting the update could be the reason of shutdown of TI company , the one that manufactured the chipset :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
It may die but the my touch 4g and nexus s still spitting out roms

I am running kit kat 4.4. on my note 2000
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johrie:
Even my good old Desire Z lived long enough to see 4.2.2 :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] R2DeeTard:
Yes, I'm the blind one. 2 year old tech is old tech, any way you look at it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
What's the linux kernel version on 4.4? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] _Drifter_:
3.4.x if I'm not mistaken.

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6 more months and the Nexus 4 is ''outdated''... you real think that 18 months of support is enought with the hardware nowadays? This is the problem, 18 months of support is ridiculous, even MS support 36 months their Windows Phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Google can stick its kitkat up its a$$ lol.

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I should have listened to my iPhone buddies.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
They have 4.3 on the galaxy s phones, which are 4+ years old. You really think we won't see 4.4 on the gnex?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] camlee:
Can anybody enlighten me (and others) as to the technical hurdles preventing 4.4 for the GN? I'm thinking for both Google and for the ROM community. Is it because TI's not in the smartphone SoC business anymore so can't/won't release new drivers or binaries? Could this mean that there was nothing Google could have done unless TI stepped volunteered to go beyond their initial contract if it had expired or something. Does this mean that any Kit-Kat ROMs we see for the GN will be using an older version of the Kernel? Or maybe just the stable ROMS will be using the older version of the Kernel?

If anybody has links to resources that explain some of this, that would be cool too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AndyGnex:
I've been on XDA long enough to know that the devs here can do everything google can, and even better than google at some things. So here i lay waiting for a customised version of 4.4 for Gnex. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackrobin:
Google is not updating the gnex as it contains the TI -OMAP processor. Since TI is out of mobile business i dont think they'll support the device for upgrades. Will have to wait and watch as to who will supply the binaries to the devs for development of custom roms
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Utkarsh-ezzo:
In the mean time enjoy this..

Nexus 5 home and apps
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] afraaa:
U know guys what all this anger come from ( as owner of g nexus and im not angry ) BECAUSE GOOGLE TOLD DEVICE WITH LOW RAM WILL RUN KIT KAT DO TO IMPROVEMENT .

If google didnt say such thing . no one will excpect as before with nexus s . for company like gogole that make miles away different than the others this is not going to bear . its obvious of google didnt said that . there was not such a demand

But as a owner of this beautiful tough ( really armoured body ) device guyss .. When developeres let xda comrades down ?

Answer is obvious and then a little bit w8 will bring us more that just google brought to kit kat !!!! ? Why i said that ? Yeah transparent idea ( when u had this trans .. Navbar on your nexus via custom rom ? Years ago

When u had full screen capability ? 7 month ago with expandable .. Even now we have able to hide navbar and status via tons of cyanogen ans AOSP . i paid lot of money back to the time for this device but its worth . it .

I have swipe button already on my g nexus with UDN application . then dont mind brothers .. Not even a bit:laugh:

We already have more than google

GOD of development bless these developers brother . we count on you:highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vekhez:
But where they are coming from, is that the Nexus line of phones is generally not the greatest specd line of phones, like the Nexus S was single core, and dual core phones were avaliable then, 1GB RAM phones were avaliable, it has 512, things like that. They are saying, that if we are going to have to RELY on Cyanongen Mod after 18 months we might as well just buy a Galaxy S4 and install CM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I can see why people are upset about this, but think about it: The phone's two years old, compared to other flagship devices the GNex had a great run. Hardware doesn't last forever, we should be glad it lasted as long as it did. But even if it did get the upgrade, I'd imagine the same people complaining about not getting it would be complaining about how poorly it runs on the old hardware.

I would be disappointed, but the Nexus 5 is coming to Sprint, so I could care less. I didn't use the 2 year upgrade that I've been eligible for since May just for this. $199 out the door is a decent price, and the deal will be even sweeter once I sell my mint Toroplus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] inorde:
My rage is gone and I realise this is something we knew would happen someday. I just hoped 4.4 was still going to hit the GNex.

Looking at the Nexus S and even older devices this was to be expected, even though for the Nexus S there was the limitation in hardware I think isn't a problem for the Galaxy Nexus.

Still a disappointment, even so because better memory management was a big improvement for me, my Launcher seems to be thrown out of the cached processes way too often. Since this is a kernel thing we'll probable won't ever see that on the GNex, unless we have a developer with godlike skills.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] josteink:
All the custom ROMs out there are based on the AOSP source.... Which wont be there for Gnex for Android 4.4.

Which means KitKat support for Gnex will be as "good" (or bad) as for regular carrier-phones. There's no guarantee it's going to be good at all.

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I Google can't engineer a solution for a product they've sold and which they are bound to support, I would honestly be surprised to see XDA devs landing a solution free.

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] HolzwurmMarkus:
This sucks....unbelievable

I am not native English so I postet my loooong and biiig disappointment in German Forum, but I am sure all points like Security, Fragmentation etc. are in the thread already :fingers-crossed:

Signed Online Petition - CHECK

Posted on Facebook - CHECK

Send Mail to Google - CHECK

Postet my dissapointment in GOOGLE Forum - CHECK

Postet in Android Forums - CHECK
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Hello,

I'm currently downloading AOSP 4.3 build, and i want to include 4.4 launcher ; bootanimation, google now intergration etc.

It's good for wait on CM11 :)

Are you guys intrested in it?

Thanks,

Rinse
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Google abandoned gnex too early so they will just do it with every future nexus, the whole reason to own a nexus means absolutely nothing anymore, you can bet non nexus phones like S4 an xperia Z ect will get official kitkat eventually but not the gnex.If you think it OK to just stay put on 4.3 for another year or more I think you will have lots of app updates or new apps that will only be available an compatable to devices running 4.4 + versions of android till eventually your gnex is worthless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Maybe some devs are willing to help porting Firefox OS for those who don't wanna use Android anymore. Google makes Android more and more closed source and I'm sure there are more people than me who wan't a fully open system.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1805282

I hope that Ubuntu Touch will still be available for our Nexus because even without Android 4.4 custom roms we could use this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
More and more closed source?

Don't talk bull****

Btw

Syncing kk sources right now

May you guys will get it today
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ashtrix:
Fragmentation still exists and plagues the android ecosystem , the older SGS didn't had an update for the 4.0.4 but it runs 4.3 unofficial....:rolleyes: !!

And the iOS7/ iOS 6 runs on 1GB/512MB of RAM, dunno what these google engineers are up to, we didn't even get the updates for WiFI and HD issues either. Maybe the pressure from the higher-up's for the profits !

F*CK this BullSh** :mad: !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
every kid crying here? seriously..

no other android manufacturer support a phone for 2 years

galaxy s2 (same hardware or better than the gnex) stopped at 4.1!!!!

..s3 still on 4.2 and probably will only get 4.3

s4 getting 4.3 now

what are you talking about??? please look around..the galaxy nexus receviced more updates than every other phone..

nexus are the best..2 years of update for free are enough..seriously..you can survive without updates or buy a new phone..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pgptheoriginal:
All the values the Android project was founded on seem having gone during these years. The decision of dropping the support for the GNexus underlines how the success of Android, and by extension the Nexus brand, made Google lose the attention on what customers think.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Sure. Google Now is closed source, the new music player etc..

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ntrolling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/

No, seriously look at the AOSP apps and then at the proprietary apps. And, which one is better?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lawk:
False. Texas instruments did not "shutdown". They don't make OMAP chips anymore.

But this is really no excuse, a multi billion dollar company could come up with a solution. I think Google just refuses to update the Gnex because it is no longer being produced and doesn't bring in any money.

They have chosen profit over customer relationship.

I hope the community will come up with a good ROM. :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] King p1n:
No AOSP roms as of yet it seems.

I've seen Nexus 4 has one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
Really?

I have here the music player sources

https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Music/+/android-4.4_r1

Google now was never open source
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zacomaco:
Exactly.

Software

makes a nexus devices NOT hardware. This was the case when the Gnex was released. Google is not honouring this.

*Even now, I feel neglecting software support makes the purchase of an N5 now consist of trade-offs that outweigh the aggresive pricing strategy/spec races. The new nexus is not differentiating from Xiaomi or Oppo phones. Just trying to beat them at their own game... Major lost opportunity & let-down (the latter hurts the most)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LordRaydenMK:
There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Well the beauty of Android is that even if Google doesn't support the phone, there is a community of developers who will.

We just have to wait a little bit and there will be a custom rom waiting for us.

EDIT:

I bought my GNex on Augist 2012 (less then 18 months ago) do I get KitKat? I'm confused now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] parisstc:
This sucks for gnex owners

nexus S was supported for longer period if Im not mistaken

So we go custom rom way from now on..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Google Play Music is closed source and it's the successor of "Music".

Google Now was open source and it was called "Search" in Android Froyo. Since then the AOSP Google Search app has not received any new features.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ashtrix:
+ 1 :good: , the tagline of 4.4 says "Budget phones performance" but what about the in-house Nexus from google, it's loosing the edge here. So does it happen again with the so powerful N4/N5's eventually. The original linux can run on any machine but except this special corporate-profitable linux flavor "android" is different.

Google sucks really :mad: !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
Websearch has nothing to do with Google Now.

About music:

Why should Google release sources for Google Play Music?

Then everyone could modify the sources and get free music.

That's for our own security.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Roymam:
Gnex has a better hardware than galaxy s2, for example - it runs 720p resolution while s2 is 800x480.

You can't compare galaxy s2 or any other phone with a nexus device - the manufacturers of those devices changes the android source completely with their own TouchWiz crap and many system apps.

A nexus devices runs pure android version with google apps - it is only a work of few days for google engineers to make android compatible with any nexus device.

The whole point of a nexus device is to not be limited by this 18 months update window that other manufacturers also provides. 18 MONTHS IS JUST NOT ENOUGH! when the nexus s stopped getting updates they didn't say that it passed its 18 months period - they just it isn't compatible because of its hardware.

Even if Google decided to leave gnex behind they should at least release an update to 4.3 that will include all of the new apps (launcher, camera, gallery, etc) so gnex users won't have to go all of this trouble by themselves. (btw - those apps already available to download and install on gnex thanks to the developers community)

This is an financial decision - google just wants to sell more nexus 5's.

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This is the most ridiculous argue I ever heared - the security of music purchases is done at the server side not at the app itself!

And Google Now is an update of Google Search - it even called Google Search in the app list and has the same package name!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
How you can know that?

Do you have the source code?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] trauquen:
google really really sucks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ashtrix:
Yep 100% it's based on profits :rolleyes: !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
you mistaken

again, the galaxy nexus is the phone that received more uptades than others

all kids here..i leave here..i bougth gnex exactly 2 yearsa ago, and enjoyed a lot..kitkat or not, i will buy nexus 5 in next weeks, and i will enjoy again 2 years updates which no other android manufacturer can guarante.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Roymam:
I'm a software engineer and this is how engineers implementing security. reverse engineering an app is very simple and if the music app implemented its security on the client side, this will extremely easy to hack it and to download all of the music for free.

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I love those arrogant people calls us kids. can't you understand that its not a matter of money and not a matter of our ability to get a new phone? it's a matter of a treatment for customers. you got used to a low standard of not updating your software and you see the gnex as the master of all devices.

many of us bought the gnex last year and didn't enjoy this long period as you. many users have just bought a nexus 4 this summer and kitkat will probably be the last update for them. do you find it reasonable???

you can go and start counting down - you have a guarantee of 18 MONTHS of updates NOT TWO YEARS - the last gnex update was on July - about 20 months after it was announced.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] parisstc:
who said that we didn't enjoy the gnex , or that we are not still enjoying it?

FYI you got your gnex 2 years ago but I got it 1 month before nexus 4 was released and that means only 1 year for me, and I didnt get it before the new phone was out.

You will argue that it was my choice to buy it when I did but how would the people who bought nexus4 a month ago feel if next year their phones will be dropped out of the official support? Happy?

I dont think so.

Gnex is still powerful enough in hardware, most current middle range phones from other hardware vendors have similar or lower performance specs, It is a real pitty to not receive official support but we will not be throwing them in the trash can either or spend too much on discussing it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lery3510:
So at meantime it wud be a trouble to choose a properest one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
next time when you buy a phone, firm a contract that say that you will always get updates

i didn't firm any contract, so i don't feel to be treated bad
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yavuzone:
No KitKat 4.4

Everybody can sure that, there is an unfair situation about this release, I tell you why:

The main reason for costumers buying a nexus phone is update support. In this perspective you can categorized smartphones as "nexus phones" and "other anroid phones".

If I decided to buy an android phone I have many options. I can choose to buy a HTC or SAMSUNG or MOTOROLA or many many other product of smartphone manufacturers, in similar hardware and software specification.

But If I choose to buy a nexus phone or upgrade to my nexus phone, google give me only one option.

I am a Galaxy Nexus user, I have buy it in January 2012, the next nexus phone was LG Nexus 4. Because of bad multimedia specification, bad screen, very bad camera (and mostly because of it's a LG phone) I don't want to buy nexus 4. Now I be stuck in a nexus phone with no update support.

Sorry but I'm not accepting any excuses of google for this and if google not change this update support policy, I dont see any rational reason to buy a new nexus phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] craigacgomez:
Yes, it's sad that the Galaxy Nexus is not going to get the Android 4.4 update, but:

1. It got 3 major Android version updates (4.0 -> 4.3). If you are complaining about iPhone updates, that's more than what the iPhone 4/4S has received (iOS5 --> 7). If you say Android 4.2 --> 4.3 wasn't a super big update, it still got at least 2 major updates.

2. The TI OMAP4 chipset is no longer supported outside specific requests and I don't think Google or Samsung would go through the extra lengths to get this support for a 2 year old device. Perhaps if it had a better support chipset, we might have received the update. Neither do I see Google creating workarounds in the Android code to support old drivers. No TI OMAP4 based phones or tablets are going to get Android 4.4.

3. Custom ROMs will quite likely be available soon. Some awesome dev(s) will quite likely code the workarounds needed to get the older drivers working with Android 4.4
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foghelmut:
Google is treating us GSM Galaxy Nexus owners like mere VZW Galaxy Nexus owners, and that sucks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Oh it has a lot to do with Google Now. Google Now is the successor of Websearch and Websearch is discontinued because people should use those closed source Google apps so Google has more control over Android. Have you read the Arstechnica article? Exactly my opinion.

And why have they stopped working on the AOSP Music app?

The next one is SMS/MMS <-> Hangouts. Hangouts has now SMS integration so they will stop working on SMS/MMS in the future and force people to use Hangouts.

[...]
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] staud:
What workaround are you speaking of? Tasker? Or a real/better fix? My GNex has had the Wifi issue since 4.3 release. Although I've kinda got used to it during the last months I would be happy to get a working wifi auto reconnection back :rolleyes:

Sorry for being off topic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
Well according to Google politics Nexus 4 end of life is in 6 months.....

It was released 12 months ago...

I think 18 months is bull**** for a Nexus.

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus