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[Shield General] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
I was using 5 ghz Wifi on both my Computer and Forge PC, and was getting roughly 8-13ms of latency? I think I could manage it sometime though. My internet connection isn't all that great however and I had some latency issues on Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare, but that was playing multiplayer. My upload speed might be 3 megabits.

Single Player games were actually rather easy to use, like Brutal Legend and even better, the Serval Controller was pre-mapped and ready to go no problem on both games.
[Shield General] NapalmDawn:
Have you used any other streaming device to compare it to like a set top box? I have a google TV that I have yet to root and hook up and I am SUPER interested in that shield streamer that will be coming out.
[Shield General] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
I can't say that I have. I had a nexus player but I had returned it for the Forge as the Forge was the same price, same device, but better specs. if you are referring to the Shield Android Tv console, you wouldnt have any use for this app as Nvidia streaming will be built in already (i believe)
[Shield General] Shadyfurball:
Love this app!

Is there a version or way to have onscreen buttons? I don't always have a controller handy and I know it's not ideal to play that way but it's better than nothing!

Thanks
[Shield General] hunter99507:
Did you have any studdering while playing? Also what are your limelight settings? 1080p, 60fps, 100 Mbit connection? Also what controllers were you using.
[Shield General] jnbb13:
Finally managed to get Moonlight streaming at 1080/60fps at 100Mbps and although it looks fantastic at a slight distance from the screen using it as part of an HMD for 3D VR there is one hugely noticeable issue, which I'm guessing is just native to Nvidias gamestream itself. Every time I move (for example streaming Skyrim to my LG G3) parts of the image blur slightly as if it's predicting the decoding for it. Once I stop moving a few milliseconds later everything returns to perfect clarity again. Is there anything at all that I can do to get around this issue? Or is this just how game streaming works in general? I was under the impression the decoding should be taking place between the image streaming & showing on screen, hence the latency of the decoding? Or is that not the case and there is no way around this? I have tried every resolution combination in Moonlight and everything from 10mbps up to the full 100 and although I have no packet loss showing or network error messages at all I still get this issue. Anyway huge thanks for all the work on Moonlight, is the only streaming solution that comes any where near close to enjoyable.
[Shield General] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
720p 60 FPS, with Internet and Network streaming. I've set up Force Hardware decoding. There was a bit of stuttering, but that's because my network is probably ****. 3mbps up, 40-ish down. Computer and Razer Forge both on the 5g Wifi network. There's much more lag though when you just have network streaming and no internet streaming.

As my Forge has Ethernet capabilities built in, I'll try that out when I get a chance.
[Shield General] nk33:
Does anyone have the link for the latest?/best apk which has the game pad on screen option? This is usuefull when I dont have my pad with me.

Thanks
[Shield General] NapalmDawn:
True. I have a shield and the shield tablet it's still nice to see a comparison between all choices to make the best decision. I think the Forge comes in slightly cheaper than the shield box but I haven't compared the specs.
[Shield General] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
I can save you the time. The Shield Console will have the Tegra X+1 processor along with 3GB of ram, and include one of those Shield Controllers.

Processor	NVIDIA® Tegra® X1 processor

256-core Maxwell™ GPU with 3GB RAM

Video Features	4K Ultra HD ready

4K playback at 60 FPS (VP9, H265, H264)

4K capture at 30 FPS (H264, H265)

Audio	7.1 and 5.1 surround sound pass through over HDMI

High-resolution audio playback up to 24-bit/192 kHz over HDMI and USB

High-resolution audio up-sample to 24-bit/192 kHz over USB

Storage	16 GB (Note: portion of storage occupied by system software)

Wireless	802.11ac 2x2 MIMO 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi

Bluetooth 4.1/BLE

Interfaces	Gigabit Ethernet

HDMI 2.0

Two USB 3.0 (Type A)

Micro-USB 2.0

MicroSD slot

IR Receiver (compatible with Logitech Harmony)

Weight and Size	Weight: 23 oz / 654 g

Height: 5.1 in / 130 mm

Width: 8.3 in / 210 mm

Depth: 1.0 in / 25 mm

Operating System	Android TV™, Google Cast™ Ready

And retails for $199. If you're in it for 4K, go for the Shield. If you want a cheap(er) option, go for the Razer Forge. But right now neither have Netflix capabilities.
[Shield General] nk33:
Damn who cares about netflix capabilities? Wack kodi on with genesis and u dont need Netflix lol!

anyone got an answer to my question? Link to apk with onscreen controller? Thanks!
[Shield General] Rotock:
I hope i can post my problem here.

I would like to get the streaming lag'less work on my phone. Its a leagoo lead 1 with 11n wlan and 720p screen.

I have noticed for a few days what my wireless station was old. 54mbps 11g.

With this i have delays on 720p with 20mbps on Moonlight/limelight,but no hang and stucks.

I bought a new router TP-Link TL-WDR4300 (spec:5ghz 450mps 11a/n - 2,4ghz 300mbps b/g/n).

I have noticed that my leagoo lead 1 can only use 11n 2,4ghz 1X1, so i got only 59-69mps, in the same room, on empty channels.

But this router gives me 4x more wlan speed than before.

With this new setup it hang and stucks a lot.

Dows anyone have an idea why. Is there more to be aware of ?

(the old router is off, the new router is on 2,4ghz 11n only and 40mhz channel width)
[Shield General] nk33:
What gamepad are you using?
[Shield General] Rotock:
Speedlink Torid wireless gamepad. Do you think it affect with the new router ?

With the old router i have only a delay but with the new router i have strong hangs lags and stucks. And i use on both times the same gamepad.
[Shield General] nk33:
Mate if its bluetooth wireless then 100%. U need to either use 5ghz wireless network or change the pad to an xbox360 one with a wirless receiver. Use an otg cable for usb. No interference at all
[Shield General] Rotock:
thanks for the answer. but i allready aware of this. And it is a 08/15 Hid device wireless, no bloototh, but this must also in 2,4ghz range.

I have testet both router with the gamepad in my hands and with the nano reciver in the pc. The phone lies 30-40cm infront of me.

But the main problem is that the better/newer router, that give my phone better wlan speed, stucks and hang in Moonlight on 720p30fps 20mbps

With the older router ON, the moonlight have only a deley. the delay is becouse i have only 20mbits wlan speedwith the old one i think.

Thats is why i bought a new router, but it make the thinks ever more worse, unfortunately. :(

I wish my super fast and smooth android, that i now have new, the Leagoo lead 1 (119€ 2015) would can use the 5ghz. but thats i get for china cheap trash. And i know it to late :(
[Shield General] nk33:
Ok I'm with you now.

Have you tried different channels on the router? Download wifi analyser app and take a look of your router is on same channel as others in your 'hood
[Shield General] Rotock:
I have testet channel 10 and channel 6.

channel 6 was aslo configurated on my old router but this give no improvment.

I have not both, the old and the new wlan, on.And I am living on land. the most channels are empty at 2,4ghz here)

I have testet the wlan strenght and speed with the wifi analyser app,too.

I test the other things today afternoon. i have also not tested it with an another phone.

My mom have a simlar spec phone. i test it today with it.

.

But its a mystery. Why is a newer router worse for my phone. Can it be the 40mhz channel width or the 11n standard. The old router only supported 11g.
[Shield General] mypasswordishunter2:
Completely new to limelight/moonlight/gamestream - trying to stream to a note 4, Have a somewhat consistently re-creatable bug. It would seem that any time any application uses audio in any manner, moonlight disconnects with "The connection was terminated" - are there any audio fixes? I can stream fine if there's no audio running (IE the batman arkham city launcher - responds fast too even with mouse movement) but the second the game itself launches (and audio presumably starts), I immediately disconnect. Has anyone else seen this/know what to do? I've gone through the usual steps of uninstalling and reinstalling drivers a few times, disabling onboard audio, etc. Hell I'm not even sure it's the audio itself to be honest - I just know that playing music in the background for instance wont even start so it sure seems like it.
[Shield General] Rotock:
OK I give up to getting Gamestreaming working with my current setup. Wlan is a Bit**.

I found out that our AVM FRITZ!Box 7270 allready can 2,4ghz 300mbps and 5ghz ...... :( ....... so i testet with it too.

Old Router : TL-WR340GD with 11bg and 54mps

New Router: TL-WDR4300 Dual-Band Router - 2,4ghz 11bgn 300mbps - 5ghz 11an 450mbps

Fritzbox from ISP: AVM FRITZ!Box 7270 - 2,4ghz 11bgn 300mbps - 5ghz 11an ???mbps

Test Android Devices:

--- Phones ---

Leagoo Lead 1: 11bgn 2,4ghz MIMO-1X1 buytime-2.2015 latency-74ms

MySAGA M1: 11bgn 2,4ghz MIMO-1X1 buytime-12.2014 latency-41ms (mom's)

--- Tablets ---

Odys Neo 10: 11bgn 2,4ghz MIMO-1X1 buytime-10.2014 latency-22-(54)ms (its a ****y tablet. unstable and slow)

Moonlight/limelight allways in 720p30fps 20mbps mode.

On the new router i have setup 2,4ghz 11n only and 40mhz channel width. And i use empty channels. I am on land and here are all empty.

With the old router all devices have a little delay. I think wlan speed + hardware latency

With the new router the leagoo lead 1 i have terrible hangs and stucks. The mysaga m1 have after some time and in some positions hangs and stuckt but not allways

With the fritzbox all devices have some times very little stucks and hangs, but simlar delay as the old router. here are 2 walls between box and my phones.

I think my only option is to get 5ghz in use. but this require me to get a 5ghz androoid device.

have someone al list for useful android device that are not to expenisve ?

And gives there a list of thinks what i must know for gamestreaming , routers , devices and wlan. I don't find usefull thinks on the web/google for moonlight/limelight.
[Shield General] Speeko:
My setup is capable of streaming at 1080p60fps but will occasionally stutter quite badly. Maybe once every few minutes the screen pauses for about a second before catching back up.

Looking for some help to stop this from happening. My setup:

Server:

Win10, GTX 780, 16GB RAM, 3.2ghz i7

Client:

Nexus 5 32GB - Android 5.1 'Cataclysm' ROM

Router:

ASUS RT-N66U with 'Tomato' firmware

5ghz wireless

Anyone with similar hardware have anything to share?
[Shield General] nk33:
Have you tried rebooting everything and seeing if that sorts it:

routers

Switches

Access points

Device

PC
[Shield General] hunter99507:
After spending hours upon hours testing limelight I believe the shuddering issue has to do with limelight or gamestream.

I had the perfect set up and it still shuddered.

Host

4670k oc

Evga 980

Wired ethernet.

Client

Shield portable in console mode

Limelight 1080p, 60fps, 100mbit streaming.

Shield portable oc

Also gigabit "wired ethernet" to shield portable.

8ms decoding.

This is all under perfect conditions. The stream worked perfectly except for the studder once every 2 minutes or so.

The studder exists even if I choose 10mb of bandwidth instead of 100mb

Not sure if it is a limelight or gamestream issue but I wish it work perfectly.
[Shield General] Speeko:
Yep, just tried this last night. Sat less than 2 metres from the router and I was still getting stutters playing Batman: Arkham Origins.
[Shield General] Haints:
Any Way to Keep Limelight from Stretching the Image to Fullscreen?

I've tried fixing this on the PC end, but I don't think that is where the issue is. I'm using Moonlight with my DIY VR setup, and I just can't stop Moonlight from taking a narrow, letterboxed image and stretching it to fill my phone's screen, which screws up the image ratio. On my PC monitor it looks correct, with black bars top and bottom, but Moonlight gets rid of them. Checking or unchecking Moonlight's "fullscreen" box makes absolutely no difference ...

Any ideas, anyone? Has anyone managed to do this?
[Shield General] Sgt.JimmyRustles:
Note: I'm going to upload a video hopefully this weekend, about the Forge TV Game Streaming quality.
[Shield General] saiotek:
my system:

i3 2120, GTX 760, 8GB, Fritzbox 7490

Mobile

S4 mini and Xperia Z1 works without problems (5Ghz and Bluetooth on)

Tablet

Nexus 7 2012

works great (but only with bluetooth off / 2,4Ghz / 65 mbps)

Kindle Fire HD7 (1.5Ghz Dual Core)

doesn't work, stutters every 5 sec

tried 2,4Ghz and 5Ghz, disabled Wifi options
[Shield General] eliott94260:
Warning ! Geforce expérience driver for Windows 10

Dont update geforce expérience withering latest version called Windows 10 driver

Im on win 10 technical preview and i update geforce expérience and boom streaming option has completely disappear on geforce expérience

I think the old system has replaced by login system

On previous there are both identification system but on the latest there are only login system

Then on Last gfe version gamestream for moonlight is dead :(
[Shield General] nk33:
I thought that too but if you reboot and then re-pair it all works
[Shield General] cgutman:
What GFE versions are you using?
[Shield General] eliott94260:
I install an update on gfe called "gfe windows 10 drivers" on this version gamestream tab was gone but its minor problem because i uninstall gfe and download the version on nvidia site and gamestream tab reappear

You Just dont update for version called Windows 10 drivers when gfe ask that
[Shield General] nk33:
Mate just uninstall it and install the version before it if its not working for you
[Shield General] cgutman:
Please check in GFE preferences and tell me the version number. It should be something like 2.4.3.21 or something.
[Shield General] eliott94260:
2.4.3.22 but in fact windows 10 driver is a graphic driver and not gfe driver but since this version of my gaphic card driver, at each boot gamestream tab disappear : i must uninstall gfe and reinstall that
[Shield General] gomson:
First I want to say thanks a lot for your Moonlight app, awesome stuff.

My phone is Galaxy S6 (2560x1440) and I normally usb tether it to my PC when playing. Trnus VR is used for tracking and Tridef3D for 3D stuff.

Pc Specs:

I7-4960X, 780ti kingpin SLI

32Gb ram

256 SSD as main drive

Now when I'm playing, the playback is smooth and I meant silky smooth no matter what resolution I choose (even 3840x2160), as long as my PC can handle it Moonlight

will stream it. There's no lag, no latency, nada...

However the problem is the sharpness of the image, it looks kind of blurry. What I see on my monitor screen looks sharper and clearer than

what I see on my phone screen. But if use just Trinus VR for streaming, the image is proper sharp, I see exactly what I see on my monitor but

I'm getting lots of stuttering and frame skipping with Trinus.

I've set the display setting on Moonlight app (android) to 1080x60fps, the bandwith is at 100mpbs but when I check my usb network

utilization, it's only maxed out at around 8% of the 425mbps speed. Please note that I've disable wifi, unplugged the network cable, put the phone on flight mode,

essentially this is a straight usb connection and no wifi or anything sneaking in to mess anything up.

So I was wondering, is there any way to increase the image sharpness or increase the resolution setting on the app or maybe increasing the

bandwith on the app.

Please help, all I need is a sharper image and I'm golden. :cool:

Thanks again
[Shield General] nk33:
Have you told gfe to optimize settings? If you have left it ticked it will change things. Also turn up the bandwidth in the moonlight app
[Shield General] nk33:


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I am also confused about one more thing… why in gods name would u want to usb tether a game to your device when surely if you are sitting there at your pc you may as well play it on the pc for best performance right? …. The whole point in this app is to give you the advantage of playing from somewhere else in the house or world…. or am I missing something?
[Shield General] gomson:
Yes, I've turned up the bandwidth in the Moonlight app and also asked GFE to optimize. Even with the bandwidth at 100mbps, the network usage on the usb is no more than 8%,

not sure if that's normal.

VR baby, VR...

You might as well asked why are some people using Oculus or Gear VR :D
[Shield General] nk33:
Ok, get ya
[Shield General] Link_of_Hyrule:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] I just started play Phantasy Star Online 2 with Moonlight with my new MadCatz C.T.R.L. R Bluetooth Controller it seems to work really well however for some reason back, start, and the analog stick middle buttons don't seem to be working at all. Has anyone else encountered an issue with those buttons not working with Moonlight? Maybe you can give a manual configuration tool to ensure that the buttons are correctly mapped since not all controllers are the same. However as far as I'm aware these buttons work just fine in other apps on my Nexus Player. Also the mouse doesn't seem to be working either in Moonlight both my controller and droidmote have mouse support with an on screen cursor. EDIT: Hmm after playing another game (Dust: Elysium) that game seems to be working fine with all the controls. However still can't seem to get the mouse one to work I have root enabled for the app and everything.
[Shield General] staknhalo:
Using the latest Nvidia drivers (352.86), the latest GFE (2.4.3.22) and the latest version of Moonlight (3.1.6) - I get an error when trying to launch Steam/the stream.

Everything was working fine with the previous driver and same GFE and Moonlight version.

Edit: After a GFE update today, all is well :)
[Shield General] cybertronixx:
No Video but Sound on my Hummingboard

Hi,

i tryed to use limelight and it works till the point when i start the Limelight Userinterface. But when i start the stream i only hear sound on my Hummingboard but no video, only the comandline.

I'm using Debian Wheezy Igor Pečovnik.
[Shield General] nk33:
whats the max screen res on your device?
[Shield General] cybertronixx:
On my Computer and my TV i have FullHD 1920x1080.

The Streaming Userinterface starts on my PC, thought it would start on the Hummingboard.
[Shield General] nk33:
it will run on both but sound will only come out of the hummingboard. What is the max resolution your hummingboard supports?
[Shield General] cybertronixx:
Hummingboard supports FullHD too.
[Shield General] nk33:
Ok, so 1080… ?

What have you set the resolution to in the app?
[Shield General] AgentMcMuffin:
Can't seem to stream my pc games over the Internet anymore? Did it before but now it's not working. I've tried enabling all the requires ports through the router and the firewall, upnp, dmz mode, turn off firewall completely, nothing seems to work. It's weird because I used to be able to but now I just get the "UNABLE TO CONNECT TO SPECIFIED PC. MAKE SURE YOU OPEN THE PORTS." On moonlight app. Can someone help me? I am using a galaxy s5 and a pc with perfectly capable components (like I said I've done it before with the same computer and same phone. Just suddenly can't do it anymore) thanks.
[Shield General] xumasso:
No sound..

Hi.

First I really want to thanks the developers for this great app. I use it a lot and until today I have not found problems. However todas I was trying to play The Witcher 3 but there was no sound coming through... It plays the introduction sounds but the ingame sound does not come out. Any ideal why?

Thanks again guys for the great work! This program rocks!!!
[Shield General] MusikMonk:
That doesn't seem to be specific to Moonlight, I saw this on NVIDIA's forums:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/833584/shield-tablet/witcher-3-gamestream/
[Shield General] AgentMcMuffin:
I was having this problem too. It's specific to Witcher 3. They're gonna have to patch it.
[Shield General] Phoenixfox:
They are aware of the issue and they are working on a fix.

Meanwhile the only workaround is to load your Witcher 3 savegame and then disable the sound device that you are using by default in your PC (START > Sound control panel > Right click device > Disable).

I have tested this and even if it's not ideal, it does work.

(Tip: If you can't alt+tab out of the game using Moonlight you can use something like Teamviewer to do the steps above).
[Shield General] GTMoogle:
compiling ffmpeg to debug a fork of Moonlight?

Hey, I have a fork of Moonlight (need to make it an actual github fork still) that's misbehaving on the latest android OS, lollipop.

The hardware video decoders are only producing black video on lollipop, and the software decoder crashes after an INVALIDDATA error. Since it looks like there's no hope for the hardware, I need to debug into ffmpeg in order to figure out exactly where everything broke down.

Moonlight has .so files for ffmpeg - where did they come from?

If it's not a project I can build myself, any recommendations or warnings about other android ffmpeg projects to use?

Thanks.

My project: github.com/GTMoogle/StreamTheater

my HW decoder woes if anyone cares: stackoverflow.com/questions/30405018/android-video-decoder-not-drawing-to-gles-surface-on-lollipop-only
[Shield General] cgutman:
IIRC, I built on Ubuntu 14.04 last time. You'll definitely need some sort of Linux install.

The libraries are based on the ffmpeg 2.2 release versions, so you'll need that series build (latest at this time is 2.2.15).

Then you'll need to patch the ffmpeg's configure script: https://github.com/cine-io/android-ffmpeg-with-rtmp/blob/master/patches/ffmpeg-configure.patch

Set the NDK environment variable to the path to the NDK installation.

Finally, run the build script from the ffmpeg directory: nv_avc_dec/ffmpeg/build_android.sh

That should work. It's a real pain to compile.
[Shield General] nk33:
Now we getting too nerdy up in this place!
[Shield General] shazbot:
Can't seem to connect to my PC with GFE anymore. On my Android phone the moonlight app can't connect, and neither can my laptop using the 64 bit moonlight app. I've opened all my ports and nothing is behind a firewall..

Error I get is "Connection refused: connect" on PC. My GFE says "You are logged in and ready to stream. Go to SHIELD Hub on your SHIELD device to stream games from this PC."

Any ideas?
[Shield General] nk33:
Have you tried forgetting all devices and re pairing?
[Shield General] shazbot:
How do I do that? Is it in GFE?
[Shield General] nk33:
Yes:… it says "forget devices"
[Shield General] shazbot:
Alright well it must not have any devices saved or something, because that doesn't appear anywhere in GFE.

Edit: Figured it out! The NVidia streaming service (services.msc) was disabled for some reason. Enabled it and now I have GameStream under the GFE preferences.
[Shield General] nk33:
Ok.. Well sometimes when u upgrade gfe it doesnt properly. I find its best to uninstall, reboot, then install the new version fresh
[Shield General] cybertronixx:
Yes i try to use everywhere 1080 but i also tryed to start the app in 720 but nothin happens. I get only sound when i set -audo hw:1
[Shield General] nk33:
And the display u have it connected to supports hd?
[Shield General] cybertronixx:
Yes all devices I use support full HD 1920x1080
[Shield General] Krowen:
Connection problem

I have another problem. Moonlight can see my PC, connect to it properly, but when im trying to start any game, only thing I can see is a message "The connection was terminated".

Any ideas?

I have unlocked all ports.

My tablet is Lenovo 8. Rooted.