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[RAZR i General] cupioscire:
I was also thinking about a moto G, but the camera is only a 5MP one and 16GB storage is so much (for me at least).

So I was searching for a other device matching my expectations but I don't like Samsungs plastic phones with touchwiz or Sonys phones. It was quite a dilemma, the RAZR I stucks more and more and no alternative for me here on Germany.

That's why I decided to buy a moto X Dev edition via eBay. And I have to say, god damn that's a ****ing awesome phone.

Motorola Moto X DE XT1053
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
My fault, didn't know there was already a thread on that.
[RAZR i General] Random Username:
Why give up so easily? I love my RAZR i and wouldn't trade it in for a Moto G or even X :)
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
For me it's a matter of stability, my I has been giving me weird cell signal issues lately... Hoping an lte device fixes that
[RAZR i General] Sizzers:
Giving up was a bit tongue in cheek but I was - and still am - pretty annoyed and p***** off that Motorola just haven't been able to come to a decision on this, particularly with Dennis Woodfield's proclomations that their future focus is going to be on getting updates out faster.

In saying that the 890 was something of an experiment with an Intel chip which in my opinion Motorola may have done something with but not now Google have taken them over. I normally change my phone every 18-24 months (SIM free) and I've had my 890 for nearly a year now, but I just couldn't resist giving the G a go for the price!

Performance and functionality wise I prefer it and IMO it's better, although whether the former is due to JB 4.3 over 4.1.2 and/or the quad core chip - albeit "only" at 1.2Ghz - I don't know, but the G is most definitely now my main phone until my next one!
[RAZR i General] tb110188:
Moto X Dev Edition... nice, i'm changing mine with a Nexus 4, just waiting it to arrive here at home and my Razr i will be with my GF then...
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Can you give a comparison of the outgoing call quality between the two phones? Which sounds more clear to the person at the other end? The reason I have an xt890 and an iphone 5s is because they are the best for the other person to understand me that I have found. I'd love to know how the G (and the X) compare.
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Omg stop right now. Topic is about 4.4 for our phone, not comparison of phones. I want read here only news about it nothing more :/

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[RAZR i General] TemplarWithin:
I got my hopes up when i saw so much activity in this thread. I guess there is nothing left but to continue waiting.
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Well phone comparison is kind of relevant because as time goes on it looks less and less likely that we're going to get an update so the question is "now what? " For me part of the answer was to get an iphone 5s which is an incredible device and will be updated immediately for years, but I'd still like to keep up with android and I have two different lines so I'm trying to figure out what to do . Maybe I'll just get another iphone to replace the xt890 and be done with the BS that android has become with the lack of update ability issue that has plagued all of my perfectly good, but nevertheless orphaned devices. I thought that android would be cheaper than ios but it's actually turned out to be a LOT MORE EXPENSIVE because instead of just updating software I'm constantly buying new hardware. I have EIGHT freaking android devices now three by Motorola and only my nexus 7 is up to date. I'm fed up.
[RAZR i General] Random Username:
Still, this is not the right thread. Please direct your anger towards something else. And if you want the quickest update, get a Nexus...
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
Yep, so much anger in this thread. If your phone is a piece of electronic jewellery, then the XT890 is not, and never has been, the right phone. That was apparent to me over a year ago, since it was first available. Calls and data: I have never had any problem with either. I've stayed on 4.0.4 (to keep FM) - admittedly with bootloader unlocked and rooted, and taking judicious advantage of the available apps, my phone still feels right up to date and bears comparison with my Xperia Z. The only limitation is the hardware. Looking good with the latest gear costs money, it always has. Is it better - well beauty as always is in the eye of the beholder, and is a superficial thing. I've no idea whether Moto will roll-out Kitkat to this phone, and nobody else does, either. But it's not a priority, and there's no reason why it should be. I think it's darned good as a mid-market smartphone, and whether the firmware gets updated is (except for bragging rights) almost irrelevant.
[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
+1

Got the Ri for a Year now and can say that it is Rock solid and the Most stable smartphone ever owned. The Performance is still more than up to date, paired with tremendous Battery life.

The right Form factor and advanced look and feel on top, it

makes the perfect Match for me - still!

So, no need for any physical Phone update for me, whether kitkat comes or not.

I myself have not given up hope yet, so Please btt & no more Phone comparison Spam in this Thread!

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[RAZR i General] osstis:
Well said!
[RAZR i General] gadzio:
Motorola UK 14 January event invite

As the Razr I was launched in London, maybe they will announce something about a potential update during this "moto x" event :fingers-crossed:
[RAZR i General] Notarzt23:
I guess we still have to wait and see. I would also appreciate the moto x to be available in Europe for a compelling price point.
[RAZR i General] ICuaI:
I would prefer the droid mini. It looks much nicer then moto x or g
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
Droid Mini is really nice but 16GB internal memory in Droid Mini vs 64GB SD + 8GB internal memory in RAZRi...
[RAZR i General] sxxorp:
Please, stop being off-topic!

I'd like to see a 'fresh comment'-sign here, when relevant info related to the Razr i software upgrade arrives. I don't want to jump in just to see that there's only some irrelevant subjective chatter goes on. It has its own topic. Thanks!
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
please, stay on-topic..there is another post to compare phones.
[RAZR i General] Slegin:
I think KIT KAT will not make difference for Razr I.
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
Today is the UK motorola event..let's hope motorola will remember it's international razr.
[RAZR i General] bracima:
I hope to get good news.
[RAZR i General] kamutka:
I won't be surprised if they decide not to roll out 4.4 to Razr I. I'm one of those who was promised and fooled by this greedy company when buying Atrix 4G -this phone had been promised update to ICS and got cancellation note in just few days before deadline.

I have been also very badly treated by Motorola customer service in Europe thus I can't say good word about this company. Went through very long and annoying RMA process with them. Took me nearly 6 months to resolve issue with dead Atrix. In the end I got Razr I that I'm stuck with.

The same story may happen to Razr I... Actually I will never get anything from Motorola again even if they dump their prices...
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
motorola is now owned by Google and it doesn't have the same policy as before.Moto X received android 4.4 before nexus.whatsmore google wants to expand the android 4.4 update to a wide range of phones, that's why it's capable for low-range phones..I still think we have hopes but it's more than 2 months without any announcement..
[RAZR i General] dog121:
If anyone isn't aware the latest news from moto is that the Motorola X will be available for the UK as of the 1st February and Europe too depending on which carrier ect...
[RAZR i General] ColdKiller93:
The UK is part of Europe... lol.

Just had to mention it, don't be angry :laugh:

Motorola seems to be quiet uninterested in the Razr I. They still advertise the Razr I as their "Fullscreen Phone" (at least in Germany) but I think on their priority list of brining updates to their handsets the Razr I seems to be far at the bottom.

I called someone of the German Support today and he told me he was not allowed to tell me anything about an update. He just mentioned I should have a look on their website from time to time.

Maybe MWC will be the place for new announcements...
[RAZR i General] dog121:
You're right there the moto website say something coming soon ....check back bla...bla..bla. I really did think moto would pull their finger out now their part of Google I've never owned anything but moto phones all the phones I by are moto and the only reason is quality they just know how to build a phone not like that cheap plastic **** by HTC or SAMSUNG...
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
If Moto do update the RAZRi to 4.4 it'd be handy for me if they also took the opportunity to reinstate the FM functionality removed in JB. Any other firmware improvements people would like to see e.g. camera?
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
There is only ONE feature that I really want: ART, new runtime. Nowadays you can personalize quite a lot in android without system updates or custom kernels so the only thing I want from RAZR I is better performance. Only ART can change this ,especially if Intel could add something to the table, Intel is really good at making good, optimized compilers - read: ART for x86.
[RAZR i General] centavar:
The software update section of the Motorola UK site is listing the update status for the Ri as "This device is currently running Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean) Future plan coming soon."

For example, the status for the original RAZR (XT910) is "This device will remain on Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)"

So I'd say it's pretty sure that there will be an update, it's only a matter of time. I'd say somewhere around March.
[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
I hope you are right, but Future Plan can also say no update...

Pretty diplomatic and nothing saying Phrase.

The site is saying that like forever, btw. Look at Post #2 in this Thread...

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[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
No, as I know Motorola nothing is sure. I was Atrix 4G user too before Ri and after what they did with clients I can tell You, they can f*** clients as they wants.
[RAZR i General] kamutka:
I'm in the same boat being screwed by Motorola with Atrix 4 fail and having Razr i at the moment.

The fact that Motorola is owned by Google means nothing for us. When they cancelled Atrix updated they have been Google owned already.

Razr I is currently old and niche product that Motorola would probably like to forget but as long as it's in retail chain they will be giving hope by saying 'Future plan coming soon'. Once it's out of the market they will update it by 'This device will remain on Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)'.

Motorola is a big fail. Nothing will make me buy from them again. There are better made, priced and supported phones on the market.
[RAZR i General] eseregin:
What phone for example?

Still, guys, Motorola RAZR I even now runing pretty fast, solid sound, solid body, compact size - this Is good Phone! Even for 4.3 screen # even now - the best. :)
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
my phone got stolen yesterday..so no 4.4 for me for sure :p Good luck guys..next phone will be sony xperia sp
[RAZR i General] tedeha:
Funny guay;)
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
One poster on the UK Moto forums is saying that the UK CS have confirmed in chat there is to be no 4.4 update for the RAZRi, for "technical, licence and distribution" reasons. Reading between the lines: it's not commercially worthwhile, since all could be overcome with money. Regrettable, but understandable; Google are not a charity and bought Moto with an eye to the future, not the past. (And for their stock of patents, rather than their phones). As with other earlier Motos, I assume they would upgrade if it could have been done cheaply enough (or for the massive US customer base).
[RAZR i General] osstis:
Hopefully you are wrong but even with no update I still love my RAZR I and will keep it for next 12 months or until similar smartphone (same dimension + case quality with higher spec) will be released. I hate big screen phones, even Moto G is great with its price but still too big and not so body premium feeling.
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
I agree entirely. My "other" phone is a Sony Xperia Z - great for use at home instead of the PC, and lovely for modding. But as a mobile phone - for use out and about, with smartphone capability, I take my RAZRi every time; it's comfortable, sturdy, reliable, discreet and good for everything (and doesn't eat the battery alive); and I don't feel like a prat with a brick when using it. But customer convenience doesn't feature on the accountants' balance sheets.
[RAZR i General] Notarzt23:
That is very well said. I in fact will trade my RAZR I tomorrow for a Sony Xperia ZL. I am wondering about how it will be with such a big phone. If I don't like it, I will see myself thinking about going back to a RAZRi/ moto g/ xperia Z1compact or moto x(depending on the price!)
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
There is still hope until on motorola website is written "Future plan coming soon". I believe motorola is responsible producer. China clone our phone get 4.2 at least, so i dont see any reason why motorola cant do update for Razr I. Otherwise i will think motorola dont care about his clients.
[RAZR i General] osstis:
Last few days I cannot check updates from settings. Got a message as on screen shot. Anyone found the same issue?
[RAZR i General] bracima:
Not for me. I get the "your device is up to date"
[RAZR i General] osstis:
I've read something related to my problem on RAZR forum and people had same message from Motorola server couple weeks before JB update has been released. Would somebody in UK check updates to confirm this?
[RAZR i General] karnevals_jeck:
Dont get the message, my phone is "up to date" - Germany.
[RAZR i General] osstis:
Thanks, nevermind. Got issue to connect Moto server via my WiFi, when I am on 3g it says device is up to date.
[RAZR i General] francois64:
The same result here ( France) .

I don't know why it works only while connected on 3G !
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
Just wondering. . . Those people who try modified roms seem to get some unexpected results, which appear to be the result of slight differences in the firmware between individual phones. If Moto have encountered the same problem they wouldn't roll out an unreliable update because of the CS issues it'd generate. They'd never tell us though. That'd be an admission.
[RAZR i General] Gucci1986:
Intel Thread to Medfield

h*tp://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/topic/500784

Feel free to Disscous ;D
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
Sorry, but i find nothing to discuss. Absolutely zero information in the link about 4.4
[RAZR i General] DrLamok:
Let's just forget about Kitkat...

Google is selling Motorola to Lenovo... Let's just forget about any updates

http://gizmodo.com/google-is-selling-motorola-to-lenovo-1511898199
[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
Hope they wipe out the whole brand's Name.

R.I.P. Moto....

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[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
You see a dead company. You recognize Motorola. It was killed by lenovo ! :'(

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Levorola: uprate to kitkat? why you want uprate to 4.3? it doesn't offer anything over 4.2, so here, keep your 4.1 uprate :angel:.
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
That news is ****ing shocking, I love RAZ I but it's time to leave Motorola boat and even maybe android.
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
That's business. It's a chess game. The RAZR i was stillborn. Still a good phone, though.
[RAZR i General] Random Username:
OK, I think I'm gonna switch to the Xperia Z1 Compact when it comes out... I'm sick of waiting :(

I will miss the Kevlar back, the frugal Atom processor and the AMOLED screen, though.
[RAZR i General] rickozx:
Lenovo buying Motorola doesn't change a thing about the update you all seem to be furiously waiting for.

First the transaction is not done, could take 6 months, a year. And when it will be done, that will not change the strategic calendar of Motorola before another year or two.

If there's an update coming for the razr i it's already in the works, maybe close to finish. Or they have nothing en route at all.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
This, now, lets put this thread to sleep unitl further news.
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Bull****. Lenovo buying Motorola - that changes everything for us. Now we have ZERO chances for update. Motorola under Google logo was doing THE RIGHT THING. Motorola under Lenovo will be doing android phones with custom skin, apps and no updates. No one beside Google ever cared about updates, lenovo is no different.

btw. Last Motorola phone Moto G was the only cheap phone that I could recommends to my family or friends. Now I can recommend only Windows Phone.

Personally for me this one thing changes everything - there is now no single Android phone with good performance and small screen (aka RazrI) that is guaranteed to receive Android updates. Hell, there is only maybe five or six phones on the market that will receive Android updates. Five from five thousand devices with Android - it's ****ing ridiculous. It's almost like no choice. Compared to this Apple or Microsoft phones are in better position.
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
I might wait a bit for that update. Motorola will all be under Google for a while, we still have a very slim chance. Definitely not getting a Motorola next time around though, maybe not even android. The fragmentation is getting on my nerves.
[RAZR i General] purplet:
Android is selling via price instead of quality. The phone are alright, what Google itself does is nice but to be fair, Apple does a better job on software to make it great on the hardware which would be the oems job.

I had a lot of bad experience with companies but Motorola is the worst by far. Not telling if there will be an update is purely fail. Giving only one update is fail. I won't recommend getting the moto g to anybody even though it's a great hardware the Motorola leftover donkeys will fail at the little software they have to adjust.
[RAZR i General] Cps1:
Trust me, LG is not better, I had the LG Optimus 2X, never received an update we at least got 4.2.2 that was a milestone for me. I guess Apple/HTC/Samsung are the only brands which are interested in updates of their devices..
[RAZR i General] purplet:
I agree, u forgot Google though, the nexus phones will get updates too.

I didn't intend to even mention LG.

My point is that Apple even though being human with flaws and restricted software it really does what it should do very well while android can only sell being less expensive with oversized anything from screen size to hardware. It's a shame that company like Motorola add incompetent devs, bad, lying to the face support with a minimum info and update strategy.
[RAZR i General] mirott:
this have to be good

i just read the news about a final relase 4.4.2 from android-x86 project fully functional!
[RAZR i General] onesixone:
Where did you read that?

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[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
then you can provide a link where you read?! guess not :)
[RAZR i General] mirott:
x86

chill guys i cant post the link cause this is a new account loose my old one, but you can go check the android x86 project page to see it for your self. they provide a fully booteable iso algo comes with a gui for dual boot with windows & linux

anyway my point is, this is a PC PROJECT but if they manage to make it work on x86 (amd & intel) processor we can take something of that code to make it work on our RAZR I 's
[RAZR i General] xianuro:
Yes well, on PCs, we got access to all the necessary drivers/software for every hardware component, which makes it a lot easier. Besides, PCs don't make calls, do they? Add sensors, data, gps, etc... and you get a hell of a headache...
[RAZR i General] dog121:
Can you give us a link to that cheees
[RAZR i General] totex71:
cant... keep up... with the stupidity in this thread right now...
[RAZR i General] Burn02:
You are talking about that?

http://www.android-x86.org

Like always and always, it does not mean that it will works on the razr i!

It just mean that it exist an X86 version of android! But it does not mean that it include all that is neaded for the razr i, like driver etc, a lot of modification have been made by motorola!

There is a lot of time that it exist rom x86 on android 4.1 and 4.2 and we do not find a way to totally port a rom for the razr i! THe sound part is ALWAYS a problem for the moment on the razr i.

Is it just so complicated to understand that?

THe goald to android X86 is :"Android-x86 Project - Run Android on Your PC"! So it just mean that it will run on some X86 computer.

So perhaps some things could be use full, but in fact the current problem is sound with the razr i, and as the razr i is different then the other x86 phone/tablet because motorola as made change, i doupt that something could be help full inside... And it does not bring any information!

This thread was here to know if there is news from motorola not to dream on some realase when it just talk about "x86 and android".
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
David Schuster is the guy working on the updates for the motorola devices, like our Hazou but hired by motorola.

now, please, can a mod close this thread until further info? the last 10 pages where about useless crap and offtopic.
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
Thanks for that information, Google+ cut a load of text off that comment while translating though.

The original untranslated comment was:
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Definitely must read:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014...ndroid-phones/

This exploit pretty much ruins the RAZRi until further notice. I'm on ios now, but still wish I could use some of my old android devices. Except for my nexus 7 I'm keeping all my old android devices shut down.
[RAZR i General] pirast:
****, can't they just leave the modifications away and deliver a pure Android as an Update? That'd be great.
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
If something bad happens with that exploit there is going to be a massive series of class action suits against all the manufacturers that locked the phones down so we cannot even provide our own security updates. They WILL lose too. Even a first year law student can tell you that.
[RAZR i General] Burn02:
Thank's for this report! I expet that it will not be aborded.

But well it's the first good point from a lot of time with the work of hazou too.
[RAZR i General] dankerk:
Good to know they're working on an update. :good:
[RAZR i General] lucasarran:
Newest comment from David Schuster:
[RAZR i General] Aleeexzr:
I hope to have an update
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
This is pretty good news. I'm pretty sure now that we will all receive it which is awesome, especially the resource optimizations it brings. Just what the Razr I needs ....
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
For y'all haters

MOTOROLA RAZR i

This device will be upgraded to KitKat (Android 4.4.2)

Do you have the latest Motorola software? Find out.

Its official.
[RAZR i General] dj_mol3y_x8:
Yep about time.
[RAZR i General] Aleeexzr:
That great news, we should celebrate with a yearning to expect haha
[RAZR i General] dj_mol3y_x8:
But fair play to moto as look at this post I made on page 21 so not all info from the chat team is rubbish :just saying:
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
This info make my day :D.

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[RAZR i General] cslaviero:
Must say, this "update about the update" came after a post from David Schuster on Google Plus, when answering a guy about an official position about Razr i update ( http://goo.gl/TrJHjD ) (error: too many about's on one sentence :) )
[RAZR i General] espaciosalter20:
Wow! This was unexpected! An almost Two years old device, getting kitkat and also, with an "experimental" processor... And I was very upset about lenovo buying moto...

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[RAZR i General] bongofred:
Stop the presses! This is great news!

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[RAZR i General] bracima:
I want kit-kat now!!!!!