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[Nexus 5 General] equake:
Barely, It does support Band 4 LTE and CDMA. VZW operates mostly on Band 13 LTE and just lit up Band 4.

The modem itself should support all bands because the baseband is the same in the Note 3, LG G2 etc. It should support Cat 4 LTE but the spec list does not necessarily list that.
[Nexus 5 General] wiredout46:
what makes you think this?
[Nexus 5 General] hlaalu:
How? Call to activate the phone and pretend it's the Galaxy Nexus? lol

hmmmm actually I wonder....
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
It's called wishful thinking. In this case there is no chance it will work on Verizon.
[Nexus 5 General] tech_head:
Yep.

I have four phones, all with insurance, unlimited data, unlimited text and sharing 1400 minutes.

Bill after all taxes and fees is $215. :good:

As long as my bill is this cheap with Verizon how can I leave???? :confused:

I'm held hostage by Verizon..... :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] DertyDOH:
I have the Moto X on Verizon and I bought a Nexus 5. I'll try TMO and AT&T both on the month to month option to see which I get better service with. If it's comparable to Verizon at all I'll port my number over
[Nexus 5 General] Smokuevo:
Someone test it on Verizon. I was going to order one to test as in theory it should work. Thank you
[Nexus 5 General] Carbon_Rink:
If it works i will buy one and sell my S4
[Nexus 5 General] sibaroochi:
LG Nexus 5 No Contract Options

Check out http://bit.ly/tmobile_nexus5_comparison . It gives you good no-contract options for the Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] barondebxl:
Exactly. Verizon doesn't deserve the nexus 5, they will screw it up like they did with the Gnexus. Verizon customers, come join the gsm world!
[Nexus 5 General] lolcopter:
it won't work you guys

even if it did, verizon will likely blacklist unauthorized phones
[Nexus 5 General] Smokuevo:
With T-Mobile I'll have no service... I'll never join att
[Nexus 5 General] lowandbehold:
Wow..T-mobile family plan with 4 lines unlimited everything is $100...
[Nexus 5 General] tech_head:
But it's not unlimited 4g. You get throttled after 500MB. For fully unlimited it's $180 for 4 phones. No insurance and taxes in that number.
[Nexus 5 General] Itchiee:
Dont cry youll get your umteenth "Droid" (So effing confusing at this point) to make up for this.....
[Nexus 5 General] W00fah:
Big Red doesn't deserve an awesome phone like the N5. They'd most likely screw with updates and hold them off for too long. I actually bought the phone on Sprint on a new contract for a crazy 50 dollars. It's actually 99 dollars but it has the 50 dollars mail in rebate. Sure Sprints network is pewp at the moment but I have faith in them coming back. Their triband thing they got coming seems pretty awesome.
[Nexus 5 General] bbedward:
They already do this. Actually I think their phones have to be registered uniquely, so not blacklisted just not authorized.
[Nexus 5 General] drew_grant:
Ironic that Verizon is pretty much biting the hand that fed them. If not for Google, their Droid line wouldn't even exist.
[Nexus 5 General] milan03:
The device's IMEI has to be "whitelisted" or authorized in Verizon's system.

I've tried this with my T-Mo GS4, popping in Verizon SIM card, forcing LTE Only Band 4 on my phone for data only. Doesn't work. It definitely needs backend provisioning.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Guys, stop acting like a beaten spouse and leave the abuser!

If you use less then 7GB a month then having unlimited is not doing anything for you. Go to Aio Wireless for $70 a month with 7GB and unlimited talk and text. Get a Nexus and get your phone geek on!
[Nexus 5 General] equake:
Band 4 is limited and Voice is provisioned on CDMA so it does you no use to use a TMo phone.

I don't the baseband on T-mo S4 even supports CDMA unlike the Nexus 5 baseband which supports all bands.
[Nexus 5 General] MaxCarnage:
Verizon sucks.
[Nexus 5 General] milan03:
Yeah, that's why I'm forcing the T-Mo S4 to LTE Only mode essentially using it as a data only device.

Band 4 is available in NYC as I've been connecting to it for a month on Verizon's iPhone 5s.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...th-Remote-Radio-Units?p=15253268#post15253268
[Nexus 5 General] cipsaz:
I've no idea what is this thread about. The N5 doesn't support Verizon and there is nothing else to talk about. Verizon has its own destiny. They are too much of a boss, thanks to consumers for that.
[Nexus 5 General] kirdroid:
As usual Verizon sucks and they are only interested in phones stamped with ugly Verizon logo and bloat.
[Nexus 5 General] .jond:
I think the big 3's days are numbered.

They used to be the only ones with good coverage.

As soon as people realize everyone has decent coverage, they either have to lower their prices(drastically) or die off.
[Nexus 5 General] Hand76:
Well this very well may be my last week with Verizon. Waiting for my new phone to get here after the weekend and make a change...But the downside is.

I get a work discount.

Already have my account and auto pay set up.

Have unlimited data.

Best reception of any carrier at my job.

So I am giving up a lot for a stock android Nexus 5 experience.
[Nexus 5 General] eksasol:
I highly disagree with the title of this thread. This phone is capable of running on Verizon frequencies (not band 13 lte, but Verizon is introducing band 4), its up to Verizon to support it and they don't want to, its not Google fault.

North America (D820) model:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19

LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
[Nexus 5 General] ragnarok_:
It's about time we are moving away from the 2 year contract bs. But anyone that wants the nexus will not be worried about subsidy contracts, and should be on a prepaid plan :)
[Nexus 5 General] maconsultant:
EXACTLY.! Can't happen soon enough.. Then I'd love to see the cable providers follow..

Sent from another Nexus..

7 LTE...
[Nexus 5 General] cdmoore74:
I'm on my way to ending my long relationship with Verizon. I lost my unlimited package when I updated to the Note 2 so there's nothing left to keep my line with those pricks. I have a family plan with 4 lines and one ends on 12/15. I still have to keep my other 3 lines till next year but I will drop my data plan from 10gig to 1gig (my wife does not use much), and I have a dumb phone and home connect. I save $90 ($40 from the line and $50 from the data drop). I'm going to jump on T-Mobiles $30 plan so at the end of the day I'm saving about $60 per month.

Verizon is fine if you want reliable service and if your ok with bloated locked down software. This is why Verizon will not listen to people like us; we're the minority. And they have no interested in a $349 off contract phone that hangs/beats phones costing twice as much with a unlocked bootloader. The only option is to pack up and leave.
[Nexus 5 General] kirdroid:
Exactly it's not that google doesn't want to sell this phone for Verizon but the other way round. Verizon doesn't want to carry the phone because they can't mess around with it like the way they do. Remember iPhone they were so adamant and Steve Jobs used to say F*** off to them. Finally they had no other option and had to carry iPhone.

If you really are pissed then leave the most useless carrier in the world. (Yeah they got coverage bull****....choose what you want, freedom or coverage which by the way is pretty decent from other carriers as well)
[Nexus 5 General] jack584:
Then why does my Nexus 7 LTE work on Verizon with my Galaxy Nexus's SIM? It's not "whitelisted".

I refuse to believe anything about the Nexus 5 even having limited Verizon support until somebody actually tests it.

And remember somebody could figure out a way to get band 13 working on it too. Somebody got LTE working on the Nexus 4 after all.
[Nexus 5 General] supercakefish:
I thought Verizon was pretty much universally hated by Americans? That's the impression I get from the interwebs.
[Nexus 5 General] jack584:
Yes but they have the best overall coverage and the largest 4G LTE network I'm the United States. That's how they can get away with all the crap they pull.

I have them, and the coverage is great, but would switch to T-Mobile in a heartbeat if they were able to build a tower close to my house. They had one approved and everything but the fing concerned parents had it appealed because it was too close to the school.

So I'm stuck with their BS until T-Mobile finds an alternate location for the tower that they were going to build.
[Nexus 5 General] lafester:
Nexus 7 isn't a phone.
[Nexus 5 General] dragonboydbboy:
Does anybody have any experience "carrier flashing" as detailed in the thread linked below? Anybody think this or something similar would work?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2265384
[Nexus 5 General] lqaddict:
T-mo offers a corporate discount on their monthly plans, check with your employer and T-Mobile. Prepaid/PAYG plans are not eligible for a corporate discount, but $30/mo is kinda hard to beat anyway.
[Nexus 5 General] hlaalu:
There's so many smart dudes on here. I've always wondered if there is simply a way to change my N5's serial, meid and all that stuff to match my Verizon gnex. How would Verizon know the difference without physically seeing the device?
[Nexus 5 General] SymbioticGenius:
I've had my T-Mobile prepaid SIM for over a week now. I'm gonna test with my Nexus when it arrives and if it works for me and my family I'm getting rid of Verizon. Right now three unlimited lines and a basic phone costs me 279 a month. On T-Mobile it would be about 130 with Taxes and fees. Not including the 8 percent I get off from work. If T-Mobile has a similar discount even better. Plus when I go overseas I will have 2G which is good enough for GPS and google translate. Also I'm pretty sure that if AT&T has coverage T-Mobile is allowed to roam there since AT&T reneged on their deal.
[Nexus 5 General] Visa Declined:
T-Mobile's prepaid doesn't have access to as many towers as what actual T-Mobile customers get to use. I thought T-Mobile sucked in my area, but when I went into the store, they told me if I switched to their un-carrier plan I would get a better signal in many places. They were right.
[Nexus 5 General] RayLancer:
That's the first time I ever heard of that one...

EDIT: Well I guess that makes sense. You can't roam on pre-paid, but on post-paid you can roam on AT&T towers.
[Nexus 5 General] Zandeer:
You should check with whoever you are going to, and see if you get a discount there too.

I know my company provides discounts to all 4 major carriers.
[Nexus 5 General] Visa Declined:
I drove from California to Oklahoma at the begining of last year with T-Mobiles prepaid, and didn't have data probably 80% of the trip. Last September, I made the trip again being on the un-carrier plan and my phone worked great.
[Nexus 5 General] RayLancer:
Yea. At first I got confused with your original post. I kept thinking T-Mobile post-paid had their own T-Mobile towers dedicated to them. You were probably roaming on AT&T towers. That's one of the key differences between pre-paid and post-paid plans. Roaming.
[Nexus 5 General] SymbioticGenius:
Yeah, you're probably right. Data is data I don't care how I get it nowadays and at least we don't pay for roaming like years ago
[Nexus 5 General] Paddington:
This thread is funny. Everyone knew there was no Verizon support. If you had to call customer service for this, I'm surprised you were capable of finding this message board. If you bought a Nexus 5 thinking it would work on Verizon, it means you did absolutely no research, and not only do I not feel bad for you, I'm actually laughing at you right now.

This guy is the funniest. He looks like he knows what he's talking about, but he doesn't. Verizon's band 4 is barely active, and Verizon doesn't have voice (or SMS, I think) over LTE. That is handled by their CDMA network. So why would Verizon provide support for a phone that could only be used as a media device in like 1% of the country on its network? That would be a nightmare for their CS reps.
[Nexus 5 General] BravoMotorola:
Verizon is an awful company. What they are trying to do to the web at the moment is beyond disgusting. I desperately want that evil corporation to fail. Oh, and same with paypal/ebay while I'm at it. F*ck you paypal!
[Nexus 5 General] lafester:
Verizon would work just fine for voice and 3g as they use the same bands as sprint. Problem is there is no way they are going to activate the phone on their network.
[Nexus 5 General] eksasol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon_Wireless#Radio_Frequency_Summary

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_5_white_32gb
[Nexus 5 General] type_2:
For those of you who are leaving or have left Verizon for T-Mobile, how's the experience so far?
[Nexus 5 General] mssam:
Pretty d*mn good! I haven't looked back. There are certain spots where cell service or data service is spotty, but that is true with every carrier (I know, I've had them all). Never have a problem with getting a signal and in the areas I live LTE is every where. Heck, even the gsm download speeds are decent. Tbh, Verizon's data service is better, but I don't notice that I'm not on Verizon's "oh, so much better network." In fact, there are places where I get a better data signal with T-mobile than I ever did with Verizon. On my way to work for example, so it matters a lot. Plus, T-mobile is giving data away for free! I get 2.5gb for hotpot for free! Doesn't really matter cuz the Devs hook us up ;) ,but still it's a nice perk. Phone bill is cheaper all around. Unlimited everything. No contract, they had the jump program first, they have basically the same phones Verizon has, bootloaders are unlocked, the reasons to be with T-mobile just keep stacking up. The only way I would use Verizon is if someone else was paying the bill. Yes...it would appear that all of the cool kids are on T-mobile right now...
[Nexus 5 General] type_2:
Has anybody traveled internationally now that T-Mobile has announced free international texting and data roaming? Heavily considering moving 4 lines from Verizon to T-Mobile.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I would try T-Mobile first before committing. I have been through Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, Straight Talk (AT&T MVNO) & Aio Wireless (AT&T MVNO). Currently I am using Aio Wireless which uses AT&T's network and it has actually been better then Verizon in my area. T-Mobile was just not good at all. There were a lot of dead spots and I got rid of them after 3 days. Sprint even performs better which my wife is currently on and I have been with them for 15 years in the past.

I really wanted T-Mobile to work for me but coming from Verizon there was no way it was going to. Any pre-paid using AT&T's networks definitley work and don't make me think for a second of returning to Verizon. I am all about the Nexus devices and I just needed a good carrier for it to work on.

T-Mobile has been good to many people though so it might be worth a try depending on where you live. There LTE Speeds are pretty good as well when you have it.
[Nexus 5 General] :
People wanting to leave Verizon but are afraid because they area worried about coverage and data speeds should really try att or an att mvno like aio, net10 or straight talk. I was with Verizon for 9 years. Left about 2 years ago, att has just about the same coverage for me and their lte and/or hspa+ is a hell of a lot faster in my area than Verizon.

Sent from my SGH-I747
[Nexus 5 General] el6006:
The only reason I still use Verizon is because their network and Sprint's networks are the only ones that work IN MY HOUSE. AT&T and T-Mo will not work IN MY HOUSE. I have to drive about a quarter mile up the road and then the GSM signal is just enough to make a call. Out of Verizon and Sprint, Verizon has better coverage IN MY HOUSE. I have however chosen not to deal directly with Verizon and instead choose to use MVNO Page Plus. This allows me to have access to Verizon's coverage and pay only $30/month and still get everything I need.

Currently I have a Sprint Galaxy S3 flashed to Page Plus. Yes, its 3G only, I don't get to use LTE on it, but I'm on Wifi most of the time anyways so it doesn't bother me. I do hope that somehow, someone will be able to get the N5 working on Verizon's CDMA network. If not, then I'll probably sell it and keep my current Sprint GS3 on Page Plus.

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See this is what gives me hope that the N5 will work with Page Plus. I wish it would be as easy as gettting the Iphone 5 from Straight Talk on Page Plus. All it requires is dialing *22890 to program it once you have created a new account or added to MEID to an existing line. I just tried it out a couple of weeks ago. Even used their online chat to ESN change from my current Sprint GS3 to the iphone 5's MEID and after going through their little script about phones not guaranteed to work yadda yadda yadda, they went ahead and changed them from me. If only the N5 would be so easy. Guess I'll find out next week when I try to get it activated on Page Plus CDMA. :o
[Nexus 5 General] Blocoholi:
Is it so hard in the us to switch carriers? Or is verizon the only one with acceptable coverage?
[Nexus 5 General] :
It's depends on where one lives. Some only have Verizon as a choice. But most of the time other services are just as good but they fall for Verizon's marketing and "think" they have no other choice.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
THIS. Brainwashed by marketing...almost into a competitive us vs. them when in reality all the services suck, some just suck less...some a LOT less.
[Nexus 5 General] kevintstephens:
I'm buying myself out of my contract with Verizon at the end of this month so that I can switch to Sprint for some N5 love!
[Nexus 5 General] cgulliver:
I did this but went to ATT. Also tried Straight Talk and T-Mo. ATT no contract was the best in the end. If your gonna switch may as well go GSM.
[Nexus 5 General] aohus:
I just cannot WAIT until Google gets into the carrier business. Then they will have full vertical integration of their products: software (Android), hardware (Motorola), and carrier (Sprint?)

I've been doing a lot of research into Google's next move and from what it looks, it's a damn certainty in my eyes that Google will eventually outright buy a carrier, or get into the MVNO business.

Heck, I'm under the impression Apple, and Amazon will follow suit. Have their own walled ecosystems tied to a phone. All of these tech companies could potentially license clearwire spectrum from Softbank/Sprint.

It's possible...
[Nexus 5 General] aiiee:
It's coverage, dl speed and the unlimited data thing. I use between 6-7 gb/mo, that's not easy to come by. Still, their not carrying the Nexus 5 is making me re-evaluate.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Aio Wireless, 7gb a month for $70 total. They do limit LTE speeds to 8mbps but what do you need to do that requires more speed then that?
[Nexus 5 General] aiiee:
$70 for minutes , SMS, and data? hmmm. 8mbps should be fine as long as it handles video streaming for 1080p. Thanks, I'll look into it.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Unlimited talk and text.
[Nexus 5 General] Yakuzahi:
+ Drop calls all over in NY tristate area.
[Nexus 5 General] dragonboydbboy:
OK, one last Verizon question: if I was to have the phone activated on Verizon CDMA by a third party, say best buy or something, and activate it as an LG d2 or galaxy nexus or something, think that might make it work for voice, text, and 3g? (I know LTE will not work)
[Nexus 5 General] tech_head:
Won't work. The MEID is not in the database. They will not be able to activate. VZW knows phone type by MEID.
[Nexus 5 General] hotleadsingerguy:
Hrm...maybe larger text will help...

YOU CANNOT ACTIVATE THIS PHONE ON VERIZON. AT ALL. THEY WON'T ACTIVATE IT, MEANING YOU CANNOT USE IT.

Is that better?
[Nexus 5 General] bgaccord:
Is there another at&t mvno that gives at least 5gbp of data of lte at full speed and price like $70 a month?
[Nexus 5 General] :
What's with no one even considering AT&T? I'll admit they're not perfect but in my area, I get really fast LTE speeds and I have the old non-share plans.
[Nexus 5 General] hlaalu:
Can't speak for everyone, but I think a lot of us have been with Verizon because we don't want to lose our unlimited $30 data plans. I put the unlimited data to good use and need a similar plan when I switch carriers.

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Hey I asked this question a few pages back and not sure of the legality of this, but what if I, for example, change the meid on my N5 to match my gnex, and then just keep my gnex turned off and out of site. How would Verizon know the difference without actually seeing the phone? I've honestly spent hours searching for this answer out of pure curiosity and can only find stuff about flashing Verizon phones to use with other carriers.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I can agree that 30 bucks for unlimited is awesome, but when I think about it, I really never go over my monthly 3 gigs, heck, I sometimes find myself looking for ways to use my extra data left over 1-2 days before my cycle restarts, though I know that's not the case for many other people.

Still after seeing how badly Big Red handled the Galaxy Nexus, even though I don't have Verizon, I'm kind of glad the Nexus 5 doesn't fully support them, because if it were offered through Verizon, I feel like more carriers would want future Nexus phones to come with a contract with them, and pick that bad style of handling OTAs and pushing them really late and blah blah blah they would ruin the experience of a Nexus device.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Not that I know of. You can check out AT&Ts Go Phone but I think it well be more and offer less. Let's put it this way. Aio throttles HSPA+ to 4mbs and that is the best speed you can get with the N4 on Aio and there has not been any circumstance that something wouldn't run because of speed.

Because you can go with a pre-paid plan on an MVNO that uses AT&Ts network without being in a contract or paying a higher price.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Never had a dropped call in Cali...there have been times I couldn't even connect..but that's different.
[Nexus 5 General] el6006:
For some of us it really does come down to coverage. Trust me. For me anyways. The day I can sit in my living room recliner and make a call on GSM carrier I'll look into switching. Living in a somewhat low spot sure doesn't help but Verizon let's me make and receive calls where as att and tmo don't. I don't use tons of data or have to have LTE to use my XDA app. I just want to be able to make a call from the comfort on my recliner. Step it up GSM.
[Nexus 5 General] Yakuzahi:
I agree with you that they're getting better and better, but they're lacking coverage in many areas on Long Island and parts of NJ. I make many Internaional calls, and when I drop one and the phone says "no service", it's not worth it for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Raibyn:
Folks, Verizon is the least customer centric corporation in America. They continually look for ways to screw over their customers. Yet some of you keep going back for more! I don't get it. I absolutely loathe that company. I have found AT&T GoPhone a very good alternative. Their $60 a month smartphone plan gives you 2GB of unthrottled LTE and unlimited talk and text. You can get additional data at $10 a GB. You can almost always purchase discounted refills for $54 instead of the $60. That's $54 total, no taxes and fees will be tacked on. I recommend giving them a try. Forget Verizon!