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[Shield General] wrc1010:
Can i use the droidmote free version or need to use the pay version?
[Shield General] nielo360:
Its the free version.

I dont know about a mac version
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
This confuses the hell out of me...You say don't use Splashtop Remote but in the OP you said use Splashtop Remote 2 .... ???? Did Splashtop Remote 2 NOT work originally and we had to use the THD version and with the newer update THD is NOT required?

EDIT: Just FYI on Windows 8.1 I had to right click x360ce.exe and Run As Administrator because it wasn't loading properly. Am I retarded because I can't figure out how to open Splashtop and keep DroidMote operational so I can play a game properly :( It looks like you just copy those files from the X360 emulator to the game you want to play.

Ok...I think it comes down to changing your keyboard to the droidmoteIME but that doesn't seem to help either. >_<

Ah...Finally. There's an option to change default keyboard that you have to do in Settings for some reason...IN ANY CASE it's finally doing something. Now I just need to figure out why the "A" button is bringing up the steam menu and the "Y" button is acting as "B" button and the "X" is acting as the "A"
[Shield General] nielo360:
1) the reason I say dont use splashtop remote is because its laggy and useless for gaming ( many people assume splashtop remote and splashtop THD are the same things, they are not.)

2)I missed this step, in your droid mote app hold the keyboard icon its on the top right, then change input to droidmote.

3) You must then hold the middle icon and connect to the droid mote server running on your pc, click search, connect to the shown ip (makes sure droidmote.bat server is running on your pc as a cmd prompt)

4) Once you see the cmd prompt show connected, you can run x360ce to configure your controls. In x360ce make sure you load logitech rumble pad 2 preset, and click load.

after you have made sure your controls are working properly, save config and close x360ce.

5)place x360ce.ini and xinput3_1.dll on the games exe folder. (note xinput3_1.dll may need to be renamed depending on the game you are playing you can google the correct name for the game. on skyrim you dont need to rename,)

Note: if your having problems loading x360ce in windows 8 (i did) download the newer version of dll's from here and place it with your x360ce.exe

https://code.google.com/p/x360ce/downloads/detail?name=x360ce_lib32_r789_VS2010.zip&can=2&q=

if you have any error such on config not found etc, just go into the x360ce.ini in the same folder and under

options type Version=1
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Funny thing is right before you posted this I said F it and installed THD...WOW...HUGE improvement! Not even sure I needed to buy a new router as it was running the same with the new router as the old one. (Bought an ASUS RT-AC66U new in box for $110) But hey...It's working...

There's still this issue with AC3 though the buttons are weirdly reversed it's not acting like a 360 controller...Need to mess with that more later. Half the fun is figuring all this stuff out :)
[Shield General] Character Zero:
Could you post some tutorials when you get this working? I am avoiding the update because it breaks my mobile GPU streaming. I like the Nvidia interface because, for me, it just works. Something like this seems to be a bit more work but if it works just as well i might bit the bullet and upgrade and stream this way. The one issue is I wondering how it works and how much work it is every time you want to stream something.
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
It would take me forever to write a tutorial. Basically what he said is accurate. I don't understand WHY you need to copy the x360ce files to the game's directory, but you do, and it DOES work! There's some issue specifically with AC3 with button mapping. Not sure what it is, Borderlands 2 works perfect. Here's a YT vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bUM3LUx9Y
[Shield General] nielo360:
actually it only looks like a lot of work, its a very simple process and the benefit is you can stream anything. infact your entire desktop is yours, you dont need steam or gfe or are forced to use nvidia's locked graphics setting. At this point the latest update breaks streaming with compression and artifacts on some if not most games (you can read their forum), Im sure at some point they will reach splashtop thds level of clarity until then this is a better solution.

if the steps I provided in the posts confuse you in any way please let me know and I wil try my best to clarify.
[Shield General] nielo360:
you can try renaming xinput3_1.dll and put all these together in your games exe folder

xinput1_1.dll xinput2_1.dll and xinput9_1_0.dll
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Any way to fix the audio lag? There's a good ~1 sec lag between laptop and Shield
[Shield General] nielo360:
I dint notice audio lag in gaming, I did notice it in some movies. are you on 4.3? 4.2 did have some audio lag. By the way nice vid!! much clearer than mine, can i put it in my original post?

For Ac3: i found this post from a user:

In your games exe folder, go into the X360CE.INI and check the [InputHook] section. Put HookLL=(0/1)and HookCOM=(0/1)to enabled. Which means setting them to 1/1 instead of 0/1
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Thanks, I'll try that. You can go ahead and use mine if you want. I'm surprised it came out so well. If I looked for my tripod for my DSLR I would get a sweet video but too much work :)

And yes I'm running 4.3. Video seems to be near instantaneous but audio has about a second lag. It's only annoying for games I've played that I KNOW should have audio at a specific moment.

On a side note, I just found Chuck's Challenge 3D on the store...WOOT brings back childhood playing Chip's Challenge. I think that game single handedly got me into puzzlers.
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Fix didn't help. In fact, I think it's an issue with AC3 itself. If I delete the xinput file altogether it does the same thing. Also an easier way to configure your games is to copy your x360ce.ini and x360ce.gdb to C:\ProgramData\X360CE

I would recommend downloading the latest x360ce from here: http://code.google.com/p/x360ce/downloads/list

You want 32 or 64bit based on your executable's binary. Most are 32 bit.

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Chalk this up to strange as hell...

If I have the XBOX 360 wireless receiver plugged in an a controller synced when I launch AC3 and select the XBOX controller from the settings menu the controller doesn't work, but the Shield works PERFECT! W...T...F...? If I shut off the controller the Shield continues to function but as soon as you restart AC3 it no longer works unless the controller is synced.

I think what we need is droidmote to use the same hw/ven id's as the 360 controller and basically spoof itself as a controller, then the issue would go away altogether and we wouldn't/shouldn't even need to use x360ce.
[Shield General] nielo360:
Oh good find, im not sure if its zulu99 or x360ce dev who need to modify the hardware id. After you told me about the audio delay I did notice it while playing fps games and on vlc player lol I was so oblivious to it. I still find it very odd that nvidia is having so much trouble with their streamer considering they worked with splastop for the tegra hd streaming.
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Just FYI had a similar issue on another game. Halo 2. :(
[Shield General] nielo360:
try the latest version of splashtop personal, i think they have fixed the streaming and audio lag and the also have extra low latency audio option.
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
So uh...Splashtop Remote Desktop 2 has faster audio but it's still slightly off but the video lag is bad. >_<
[Shield General] nielo360:
You have to use the new splastop personal, its the free one. Splastop remote desktop 2 is the bad one lol and its the old one.
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
There's too many programs...Can you link me on Android marketplace page please
[Shield General] nielo360:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2&hl=en

this one. first try it normally, if u have audio issues there is an advance option for low latency audio. (may cause occasional stutter), make sure you pick 1280x720 as it useually defaults to native screen resolution
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
That's exactly what I said I was using ???
[Shield General] nielo360:
oh.. it seems to be working just as fast as THD for me now. and audio is significantly better, perhaps something in splastops config?

they updated their windows splastop server with nvidia optimizations, but I think you alrady have that updated.

is the stream setting set to 720?
[Shield General] LVNeptune8:
Who knows...Maybe if they officially supported the Shield we would be in a better position :(
[Shield General] pjl101:
Back button with droidremote

Has anyone been able to map the back button properly in x360ce? Any button I try either changes the volume or exits Splashtop as an example.
[Shield General] nielo360:
I havent been using the shield lately but you can click the record button on x360ce and click back on the shield to see if it registers.
[Shield General] sofakng:
Has anybody compared Splashtop THD to the latest nVidia Shield OTA update? Supposedly it now supports 60 FPS streaming but I can't really tell the difference (but I haven't tried using Splashtop ...)
[Shield General] nielo360:
Yes, and its only runs 60fps for people with 120hz monitors, or those playing unreal engine games due to the shields vsync implementation. The quality is terrible and filled with artifacts, the bandwidth is lowered,you can check out their official forum, I would not recommend updating your shield right now if you like streaming your games.
[Shield General] Mahtan Tasadur:
After some messing around with options, I found that the Back button is usually always bound to being Start. So I just mapped the Start Button as Back.

This is working for me on Borderlands 2 as I type this.
[Shield General] nielo360:
thats cool thank!
[Shield General] sjh93173:
Does droidmote needs root?

hi ppl, just asking a basic question, do i need to root my shield to be able to use Droidmote to stream from my laptop?? following the instruction to install splashtop / droidmote server / client is ok for me, but rooting the Shield may be too much for me to handle.
[Shield General] rsandoz:
Where can I download the "Windows" version of the droidmote server. All I can find is the Android server (playstore for $2.58). In their forums it says there is a version 2.16 in the download section (videomap.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3&start=10), but I can't seem to find this download section.

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Also, how do I run Skyrim in fullscreen from Splashtop? Did I download the right windows-side version? At first I tried (Splashtop_Personal_Win_v2.4.5.0.exe) but that didn't work, plus it wanted an account. Then I tried (Splashtop_Streamer_WIN_v2.5.0.1.EXE) and that worked somewhat. I tried to run Skyrim in fullscreen, but it errored out - said it can't run in fullscreen, then it worked in windowed mode, but I couldn't size it right.
[Shield General] raufemann:
You cant...

Splashtop don't support direct access so the best thing you can try is run the game in windowed borderless, Skyrim don't have this option so you can try a application called fullscreenizer with windowed mode.
[Shield General] rsandoz:
I actually got it working.

support-remote.splashtop.com/entries/21074486-I-want-to-be-able-to-run-Skyrim-with-THD-in-Full-Screen-mode

support-remote.splashtop.com/entries/21098048-no-question-just-giving-your-dev-the-answer?

Tried a bunch of stuff from there, but I believe SLI diablement or rebooting did the trick. Not sure which. But now, I only see the game, but when the PC goes back to Windows, the stream to Shield is just black screen with mouse pointer. I am shaking up the bag of marbles, but will eventually have them sorted out.

Plus I found all the buts I needed from my previous question. Had to register on their website in order to see all the dl links.
[Shield General] raufemann:
...

You can get full screen working because SLI setups don't have the Intel iGPU, in your setup disabling SLI give direct access to one dGPU and Splashtop don't mess with internal app display output registers like multi-monitors or video outputs, in Optimus setups the Intel iGPU is the bad guy, this **** is good just to battery for all other things it's a pain in the ass.
[Shield General] deadheaddraven:
need help

OK guys any chace of some help with this ! i got a shiled for xmas but streaming with GFE is balls ! this seems great ! got the streaming with splashtop thd working fine ! got the control working fine on the config tool - but not getting it working in game !

i know you have to put those files in the game folders but i have no idea where to put them ! most if not all of my games are on steam and i dont know where the install files are !

plz plz help - my wife spent alot of money on this for me and she and i will be gutted if i carnt use it for streaming (bloody GFE)

thanks for any help guys
[Shield General] nielo360:
Hi, you need to put the files in the games .exe location folder also the x_input dll might need to be renamed dependinng on the game your trying to run. To find your exe folder simply right click your games shortcut and open file location.

For steam goto steam folder steamapps common inside you will find your game folders
[Shield General] jcatfour:
Nvidia shield issues

So I'm not getting help anywhere else, so I figured I'd come here. I am having all kinds of issues with my Nvidia shield and x360ce. First of all, the droidmote client on my phone CANNOT be closed once I open it. I've tried force stopping it, task killers, the works; only restarting my device works thus far. Secondly, I can get the controller to connect to the server, and windows recognizes the gamepad (I tested it out in control panel), however, whenever my computer is restarted, I have to uninstall and reinstall the drivers in order for it to work again. Anywho, the real issue thus far is x360ce. It appeas as if the program doesn't recognize the controller at all, and I can't find help ANYWHERE. I've been working on this thing all day, and I am literally going crazy. Please help me!!!

P.S. I am running Windows 8 x64
[Shield General] nielo360:
Im running on Win 8 64 and its worked fine So far.

a. which controller are you using? If native shield controller then once ur controller worked fine with X360ce then you shudnt need to worry since you can copy x360.ini and x input dll to your game folder.

Do you mean u tested it on the windows controller control panel or x360ce panel? It only needs to be configured once in the x360ce panel and then you are good to go since you wont need to use x360ce again.

Also make sure your default input method is droidmote. So when your running your game or app its using the driodmote controller method for input.

b.if the issue is with x360ce you should try the 64 bit version or try running in admin mode
[Shield General] jcatfour:
I've gone ahead and installed win 7 now. I've finally gotten x360ce to recognize my controller, however, is this normal? The controller is still greyed out, and the little "light" indicator is red instead of green. I can record my controls into the configuration, but the picture doesn't do anything when I move the controls around.
[Shield General] sjh93173:
i am waiting for my shield to arrive now. As a laptop owner, i too have been reading this guide for advice to stream from my laptop. Haven't try this yet but I too would appreciate if the creator can addresss some of the issues raised by John 6670 coz i have windows 8 64 bit installed too. Cheers

and Happy new year ppl~
[Shield General] nielo360:
[MENTION=218682]john[/MENTION]

sorry for the confusion its actually a very simple procedure and your laptopl with optimus and spalshtop will stream much better than nvidia gpu based streamer as it simply slower and full of artifacts.

1. Splastop server is just the streamer you download to your pc and run, you can get it from splashtop site.

2. Windows 7 and windows 8 have diffrent methods of deactivating driver signaturen, which is why there are two set of instructions.

3. I think you misunderstood one step you need two simply copy those two lines and enter them in your cmd prompt and you are done for win 7. You can also simply type them.

3. The reason you need to install from driver folder is because you use admin mode cmd to run the install.bat file example

If i extract the driver folder to

c:\droid-mote-win-drivers\x64

I would run cmd as admin and type

c:\droid-mote-win-driver\x64\install.bat

And you should be done

4. You goto the server folder droid-mote-win server to run the droidmote.bat file. Dont worry about password stuff skip all that, it was for an older verison

hope this helps
[Shield General] nielo360:
You have missed one step, please load logitech rumble pad 2 preset and then try connecteing your controller. If it is greyed out means you controller is not connected, also make sure droidmote server on ur pc is running. Remember you only need x360ce to configure your keys, once done you wont need it agian as you can simply copy the x360.ini and xinput dll to any game exe folder.
[Shield General] John6670:
Alright, I think i'm starting to understand a bit more

Splashtop is just the streaming part

Droidmote is basically giving you button controls, right? As in, using your buttons for whatever your streaming? So even if I didn't use droidmote, i could still use another third party app when in splashtop, correct?

And speaking on the splashtop part.I got it to work, but cam across another issue. It's very slow. Going into apps onto desktop, playing games , etc. My router is downstairs in the garage, while i'm upstairs...so

If I found a way to hook up my ethernet cord or w/e from the router downstairs, and plugged it into my laptop, would I likely be able to stream much better from my lappy onto the nvidia shield?
[Shield General] nielo360:
Ethernet hooked to the pc and modem is a must, along with 5ghz wireless N
[Shield General] Character Zero:
I had been holding off doing this since I was using the old Laptop GPU hack. But then things got all messed up and I updated. Did all of this and after some issue with Droidmote and getting the x360ce set up I was good to go. I just played some Metal Gear Rising and it looked amazing. So I have a couple of questions:

1) What is the best way to kill the Splashtop THD client on the Shield when done?

2) How do you start up droidmote. I know typing on the command line but wanted to see how people are using it in practice. Make a bat file with a link on the desktop. Connect to Slpashtop then click on the bat file on the shield and then connect with the Droidmote client?
[Shield General] nielo360:
1)i just kill splashtop by using back till, i get disconnect also, use the task killer on the the shield

2)just click on the included bat file , or let it run on start up with splashtop server.
[Shield General] Character Zero:
I also noticed I can't use my 360 controller with the x360ce files in the folder. I have to delete them if I want to play on my TV with the 360 controller.
[Shield General] deadheaddraven:
Little Tweaking needed

Ok so i got it all working - thanks guys this forum was very helpful

the only thing is i find that the thumb sticks are not sensitive enough ! its playable but for example when i am playing state of decay ! all is well until i need to use my gun ! when aiming slight movement does not register then when i move my thumb more its too much and i over shoot my target !

i am probably not explaining this very well ! i have tried adjusting the anti dead zone but its hasn't helped

so its making any game with a gun in it (that alot) a pain to play

any one else finding this ?

any tips ?

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Also any help on getting the pad working on Batman Arkham Asylum would be great :)
[Shield General] nielo360:
Hi this could be an issue with Shield's Natvie Dead zone or X360ce not properly registering your adjusted dead zone, have you had this issue with your 360 controller or third party controller hooked up to your shield?
[Shield General] nielo360:
In case anyone is interested in streaming from a laptop without a router Iv posted a psp stream performance video/guide,

please use the video thread if you have questions on this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2612699
[Shield General] sjh93173:
Hi neilo360, finally got my Shield with me and has been trying to get splashtop and droidmote to work. I followed the instruction video posted on youtube to install the droidmote win driver and server. I got the shield to be connected to my laptop via droidmote in server . However, when i open the x360 emulator fie ( x360ce) -. the little controller 1 box remains grey and not green . What is your suggestion? i restarted the pc and droidmote few times , no luck so far.

also, Splashtop THD is still the preferred streaming app isit now or splashtop personal 2 is just as good?
[Shield General] nielo360:
they are both equally good methods as of now, splastop personal has some extra settings such as sound latency.

some things I can think of are:

You must be updated to android 4.3 to use droidmote properly

1. are you sure the drivers were installed properly?

2. Have you tried using the other versions of x360ce 64bit / 32bit

3. Driver signature been disabled?

4. Run x360ce in admin mode

5. Make sure droidmote is your default input method

6.In x360ce there is a HID tab when you push buttons do you see any responses?

7,Make sure you have loaded logitech rumble pad 2 preset.

8.perhaps dual booting a diffrent version of windows might help
[Shield General] nexcat:
hello;

this solution is great thank you for that.

but i am not able to map back (select) button. and this is really important, for example; in tomb raider we need back button to see map, but it is not possible or i didnt find the solution. and also in this game and the most of the games they are using all the xbox controller buttons but because of back button unmappable we are always one button missing in games.

is there any solution for this ? anyway to map back button or volume button. or disable that shield big button and map it whatever we want ?

hope you understand.

thanks again.

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using splashtop keyboard shortcuts (ESC) is usefull. bind start to back button and use esc to enter game main menu. wish there is hardware button solution.
[Shield General] nielo360:
there is a method to do this, I think its posted by the droidmote creator on this thread i will look for it (edit: map Start Button as Back)., and there is another way to edit system key input however i would not recommend you do this as it can definitely brick your device unless you are an advanced user.
[Shield General] nexcat:
yeah i figured out that also..

it is ok now. with splastop keyboard esc key for settings and start button for back menu etc.

thanks.
[Shield General] sjh93173:
hi nielo360, thanks for your suggestion!! i finally got Shield to work!! Think probably was the versions error-> tried x360ce 32 bits from another website and managed to get the connection. But now another new question, when i tried to launch Metro from steam-> it just can't open unless i set it in windowed mode -> so how do i get the game to launch? i can play spleunky and tomb raider ok.
[Shield General] nielo360:
The trick to metro is to edit the .ini file and lauch it in window mode then just use fullscreenizer to make the game full screen thats how i do it.