yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR i General] chuckiebronco:
Geesh people... please remind the NDA, you must have read the consequences of breaking it... :angel:
[RAZR i General] k4tfish:
I'd say yes, there is some hope now :)
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
This is my last day with Razr I - I've bought Nexus 5. I still think that it is great phone, but it doesn't have enough juice to power fluid android experience.

As for update to 4.4 - I'm still waiting because I will give to my wife Razr I, but 10 months for update - It's crazy.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
I'm thinking about switching to the nexus 5 too. My razr has just become too slow... I'm waiting for the release of the nexus 6 first though
[RAZR i General] DrLamok:
My last couple of days with RAZRi too...

I was thinking for a long time what other phone will suit me.. as I simply refuse to use anything bigger than RAZRi...

Choice was either Samsung S4 Mini or Motorola Droid Mini... finally gone for Droid Mini... It should land in my pocket in the couple of days and RAZRi will go to my wife's pocket.

Seb
[RAZR i General] paulle:
for the update reason I believe I will switch for an experia z1compact (good cyanogenmod support, same size as the razr i and getting cheaper here, in the moment you can get it here for 299€). Will wait a lttle bit more, maybe the price will lower more in the next month.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
We are 2. Waiting the releases in September, to choose which smartphone I'll buy. Some rumors says the Nexus 6 is coming from Motorola...
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
$eptember, still @ jb, t-thanks moto.

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[RAZR i General] MrEnderkiller:
Yes, it could even be called Nexus X according to some rumors. But I'll go for the OnePlus One.
[RAZR i General] bracima:
Kit Kat whit Bluetooth 4.0 ?

https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/QLI_viewQDL.cfm?qid=23705
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
LOL, is it possible? :) good news if yes

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[RAZR i General] caslubas:
I'm tired of waiting, and probably change my smartphone brand! disappointed with motorola.

4.4 If not arrive this month, buy one sony.

Bye motorola.
[RAZR i General] St4mi:
No, it does not say Bluetooth v4.0.

If you compare it to the ICS based firmware every bluetooth feature is the same.

Stami
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) is a subset of bluetooth v4.0, and it appears in that table, also at the end : "Specification Name 4.0" I don't know if we are going to get the full bt4.0 stack, but that BLE seems to be one of the most important features, anyway, we still don't get **** until they release the ****ing update.
[RAZR i General] bracima:
I can see in the table:

Specification Name	4.0
[RAZR i General] St4mi:
Yes, it seems the only thing supported is the 4.0 LE feature, but for me it would have been the 3.0 HS (Bluetooth high speed). :eek:

Stami
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Just bought a month old nexus 5. The razr i goes to the highest bidder, with or without kitkat...
[RAZR i General] francois64:
That's why i've tried to warn all of you getting tired of waiting for a "future" update...

I've unfortunately experienced the same episode ...waiting for an update for the Atrix; update canceled by Motorola at the end .

Now i have a LG G2 mini...
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
It has nothing to due with the KitKat update. I bought a faster phone cause the razr i was getting too slow for me. Especially with all the updates for apps like Chrome. I don't have the patience anymore for keyboards to appear and pages to load...

Again, nothing to due with the upcoming android update...
[RAZR i General] bughunt3r:
If it has nothing to do with the upcoming update, why do you post it in this thread?!

This thread is only for update news.

You want a faster phone? go get it.

I don't need a faster phone.

I don't need KitKat.

KRT and Omars roms are awsome[emoji106] they already have all the pro's of kitkat...But it would still be nice if we get it [emoji1]

Because cyanogenmod :D
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Go to my posts one year ago when I switched to iPhone. Still one of the best things I've ever done and one year later, especially after seeing the state of this thread, I still have zero regrets! I'm not trying to gloat, I'm just saying anything android is just endless disappointment and frustration. It is still a broken model.
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
Please not YOUR story again! :)

This is XDA! Please leave this thread for Android AND Infos about Motorola 4.4

Back to Topic please! Or start a new thread for Razri refugees...
[RAZR i General] xtr3m3:
As I mentioned earlier in this thread.. My phone does everything I need it to do. Everyone has different needs and some of us here are happy with what we have. The fact that we might get Kit Kat is a bonus, but I won't cry myself to sleep if Motorola doesn't deliver.
[RAZR i General] caslubas:
I'm happy with with razr i and android, but I'm extremely disappointed with motorola, update as promised and postponed twice already!

Promises must be fulfilled, I did not ask, Motorola promised to upgrade the device, and it's still selling, therefore, must meet its obligation.

I'm almost buying a new phone, i wanted to spend the razr for my daughter, but now with 4.4, September'll wait if update does not, abandon this brand.
[RAZR i General] godoy.rafa:
Again, nobody cares about what you did with your Razr or what phone you have bought.

Please, only post here if you have news about KitKat for XT890.

Thanks.
[RAZR i General] sxxorp:
4.4.2 Beta

One of my forum mates wrote that he has the 4.4.2 Beta on his Razr i, (he is participating in the Motorola-program as I can recall, also mentioned here before).

I'm waiting for confirmation, first impressions.
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
We know that it could be so, but it is not allowed to talk about (NDA restrictions!)

So, pssst! ;)
[RAZR i General] sxxorp:
Sorry, but after the many months of confirmation of the update, then delay, after delay, after delay, many are afraid of cancellation... I feel more appropriate to give little sign of hope to the desperate 'masses' :D
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Tell him to not be a ***** and leak the rom already for **** sake.
[RAZR i General] DrLamok:
So much for the NDA... Somebody just posted this on Youtube hour ago..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcx4PiBM8A
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
sure, *someone* well, nda are meant to be broken, blink blink.
[RAZR i General] godoy.rafa:
Found this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npcx4PiBM8A
[RAZR i General] AGISCI:
Lol, I was watching the video, in most of it he blurred his name, then there is one scene where his name is shown.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
And now its a private video.
[RAZR i General] BirneKlub9:
Lol yes
[RAZR i General] bracima:
Now deleted.
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
Watched the video. I'm sorry for this comment, in advance, but something really intrigues me. Is the fascination with 4.4 about anything more than bragging rights? I understand them, sure. It's nice to feel you're up with the pack. I've got a rooted Xperia Z as my second phone which is running 4.4.2. I don't game, for sure, but my Razr i, rooted and unlocked, can do everything the Xperia can, boots faster and doesn't run noticeably slower. And it's got over 300 apps installed. Xposed too, with half a dozen modules. Some valued apps like folder mount and MS Exchange services to make the phone more efficient actually work on the Razr i but not on the Sony. The noticeable limitations of the RAZri seem to me to be its hardware, so I can understand those people who change phones. I keep the Razr i on the original 4.0.4 firmware too, because I want to keep fm functionality. This struck me when I looked at the video, I thought it looks worse and seems slower than my original firmware. Sure I can change the look and feel of the Xperia more, but it seriously eats up battery so much more quickly, that the screen is off most of the time. I can improve the camera and sound of the Razr i with apps. There aren't the mods but that seems more to do with the unusual Intel processor. And one blank screen looks much like another, as far as I can see. For me the phone is what it does, and the Razr i does things as well, and some better. And it sits well in the hand, or pocket, as a mobile phone rather than the uncomfortable size of the Sony. I suppose I'm missing some point, but I can't work out what. If it's "security" then all the security apps work on the Razr i - I can see that 4.4 has more out of the box, but the effort in bringing the Razr i up to scratch is surely part of the fun of using your brain (which is what it's for, after all)? I don't get the show-off gimmicks on the Razr i, which for me at least is a blessing, not a curse. :confused:
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
Now we can all be 100% sure that the update is coming :)

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/38f9a0a5aa?commentId=802853#802853
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
i think it was sure for months...

and nothing new in your link, or did i miss something?
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
Well few folks were still thinking that the update wont come in the end...

The comment already got removed from the Moto forum since its breaking the Moto forum rules and I don't want to directly quote the guy so I'm just summarizing what he wrote:

He got the beta last night, let it update overnight and now his phone is stuck in recovery.
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
ah ok, thx.

and nobody knows what this user has done previously to his phone (unlocked BL, root, custom roms, etc ;)

the removed yt video shows a running KK... i think they really will release KK in the next days - weeks.

but i think I will not update to KK. My Ri is running perfectly and is highly customized (root, flash, cam, xposed, gravity box, PIE controll, launcher, apps + services). It fits perfectly in my need of usage. i dont want to lose anything from that, just to get a few KK-features...

i would update if there are some bigger improvements like: FM Radio, Wifi-Direct / Miracast, USB-OTG, Unbricking-Tools etc.

and what are the great big innovations in KK we get on the Razri?

direct printing? ART? less memory consumption?

please give me a reason to update :)
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
We will get wi-di or something like that (the miracast equivalent of Intel) and probably wi-fi direct too, ram consumption its a great plus too.

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[RAZR i General] Hazou:
He had a unlocked bootloader ;) could be seen when he booted his phone. So i assume he is someone from xda, also because he uses an english version of the firmware. en.GB. and i think he would go for full stock so he lives somewhere in Europe. But who knows. Bound by NDA or whatever :P If i would get it, you wouldn't have noticed it xD
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
Yeah I think I also won't update. I got a locked BL with twerkmymoto and I'm sure I'd need to unlock my BL to still have root with KK, JB with root > KK without root :D

And with xposed I pretty much have finetuned it to the ideal way, the only thing I'm missing is to show the next calendar events on the lockscreen.
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
wi-di (wireless display) would be a super plus! then i would update immediately :fingers-crossed:

are you sure about that?
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Absolutly, a 50% sure.

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[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
:laugh: thats good! absolutly a 50/50

but really can be... its a intel thingy...
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
I've just found another Youtube video with the new Android on our Razr i and seems to work. You can even see the build number. I don't know if it's allowed to post this video here or to tell the build number...
[RAZR i General] pablog_86:
let's see... :eek:

http://youtu.be/eiqoKRUd_GU

it seems to be real, but not sure. there's no translucent navbar and no gradient status bar.
[RAZR i General] gadzio:
It's the same video as before.
[RAZR i General] xtr3m3:
Found this on David Schuster's Google+ page.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Based intel.
[RAZR i General] gadzio:
"[...]If that all goes well we should be able to enter carrier labs in a couple weeks"

I was wondering how long this carrier lab could last and I found this :

Ok, this was about ICS I know but I really hope they speed up the carrier lab cycle... coz if the update will go to carriers in couple of weeks and it could last one to three months... Q3 would be finished for a while before we could even expect to get a SOAK test... :rolleyes:

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (and I hope I am).

Source : droid-life
[RAZR i General] bracima:
If we have a carrier-free phone what is the ETA for the Kit Kat update?:confused:
[RAZR i General] AGISCI:
No such thing. There is a carrier. Look at system version on your phone. That is your carrier.
[RAZR i General] bracima:
I hope the EN.eu beta works fine and we can get it soon
[RAZR i General] gadzio:
I guess what he meant was for the retail version. No idea if the retail version will get the update faster than the carrier versions.
[RAZR i General] pajo985:
retail versions do get updates faster...

even moto said that in new moto x presentation, where they stated that phones from motomaker (retail version) get updates much quicker than for exmple att or verizon versions..
[RAZR i General] Burn02:
That not always the case, for the previous upgrade, in france here, SFR Was the first to release the rom. We should wait something like 1 week to have it on retail phone.
[RAZR i General] Zavage:
Motorola will release the kitkat update in the beginning of october. i guess at the end of the first week in oct, everyone should have become the update.

source: facebook page of motorola germany
[RAZR i General] godoy.rafa:
Liebe RAZR HD- und RAZR i-Besitzer, wir freuen uns folgende Neuigkeit mit euch zu teilen: Ihr werdet euer lang erwartetes Update Anfang Oktober erhalten, beginnend mit dem Update für RAZR HD und bald danach für alle RAZR i-Benutzer. Sobald sie ausgerollt werden, werden wir es auf dieser Seite verkünden, also schaut immer mal wieder vorbei! Vielen Dank für eure Geduld! Euer Motorola-Team

Translated to english:

Love RAZR HD and i RAZR owners, we are pleased to inform us the following news with you: You will receive your long awaited update in early October, starting with the update for RAZR HD and soon after that for all i RAZR users. Once they are rolled out, we will announce it on this page, so check back from time to time over again! Thank you for your patience! Your Motorola team
[RAZR i General] leonelsr:
I just can't understand why we don't have a dump of one of those updated devices yet???

It seems obvious that those are real. Those must be the "select countries" David is talking about. Let's go after someone with the rom!

---------- Post added at 08:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 PM ----------

It seems quite simple for me. Optimization, latest drivers, battery life, "smoothiness", not having to reboot my device every couple days (or hours sometimes). I may be wrong, but my Samsung Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) is really "snapier" with either "almost stock" 4.4 or with CM11 than with any 4.2 out there. It runs for weeks straight with just some quick recharges. But ok, that is a Samsung device, this is a Moto one, let's see.

But with 4.4 it really should be easier to port CM for our device, since there are already a couple of x86 based devices officially running CM11.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
I don't know, maybe they don't have the balls, maybe they are really afraid of breaking the nda, lets just wait. I really miss the defy days, we got leaks before the programmers of motorola could even finish compiling the damn rom.
[RAZR i General] leonelsr:
Yeah :( I had 3 Defys. I REALLY miss those days. (And every now and then I think about buying a new Defy).
[RAZR i General] eismaus:
Or maybe they just didn't now how to.. :confused:
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...1295-how-get-ota-download-location-share.html
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
Or even easier by adb pull /cache/
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
I've got it today. I won't say anything about it and risk it. You all should just grow some balls and learn to be patient!
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Can you at least say something about the speeds? Have they improved or are they the same?
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
It feels like the speed has improved, especially in the menus. Ingame speed is also better.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Ram usage without greenify?
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
I haven't looked at that and won't. Just wait until you get it. All I can say is, the update is worth it!
[RAZR i General] Biohead:
Just a quick tip... it's a publicly accessible forum. You might want to remove links to your personal details (facebook page) as even mentioning you have it is against NDA, not that Moto will likely come after you.
[RAZR i General] raol.xh:
he is just a troll.stop begging him.
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
From a legal standpoint I don't even know if an online signed NDA, without any signature would even count as a legal document in front of a judge...
[RAZR i General] pstub:
I wouldn't want to find out the hard way...
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Basically every internet-based service provider or software provider base their legal protection on the "accept" on a terms and conditions page ^^
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
Frankly I'd rather Moto do their testing properly before the general release. If they didn't we'd be complaining. Sadly we can't always just have what we want like snapping our fingers. I'd like them to restore FM and introduce OTG functionality into the kernel, but it isn't going to happen. For both practical and commercial reasons. They're not at my beck and call.
[RAZR i General] khaledm_92:
I just hope they remove the stutter that the circle widget causes on the stock launcher. In fact I hope any of the testers could move on this feedback.
[RAZR i General] Agustinb14:
Why would you apply for a beta test and don't test stuff?
[RAZR i General] rodrigoauditore:
I think he is lying all together, but he means he won't tell us. He is testing for Motorola
[RAZR i General] leonelsr:
BTW I don't think implementing OTG would be software-only...
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Because I don't have time to test things specifically. I just use my phone as I would use it normaly. On the 4.4.2 beta, they have preinstalled two apps which collected specific data. One app monitors the system and uploads logs if another apps crash or behave out of order. The second app monitors the power management, like battary status, cpu and temps.

The system runs good, but there are some bugs. If you put your headphones in, you can hear a hissing sound, no matter the volume or the music. Also if you put your headphones in, there is no headphone symbol in the status bar. Furthermore the mobile data jumps randomly from 3G to H and H+. And Wifi seems a little bit weaker. But that could be because of the activated power saving mode. Also the immersive mode doesn't deactivate sometimes after I close a game.

The kernel version is 3.0.34+

The build date is 02.09.2014

And I got it this monday. :D

So the ROM is quite good right now but needs a little bit of work.

I won't make any dumps! :angel:

P.S.: All known root methods from 4.1.2 doesn't work on 4.4.2 :crying:
[RAZR i General] qubbey:
lol ?

Does the time on the clock also randomly increases about a minute every minute?
[RAZR i General] diogo.sena:
unlocked bootloader always works for root..
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Are you trying to be funny or something ? You know what I mean! With 4.1.2 if I stayed at the same place, the mobile data connection stayed stable on H+ for example. But right now it jumps randomly.

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EDIT: ROOT works now. Had to use TWRP to flash SuperSu. Didn't work with CWM.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
What about the battery, I know this is beta testing, and may have some bugs about this, but is there any noticeable improvement, or is all the same?
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Battery is quite the same. The biggest improvement is the speed...Not comparable with a Nexus but there is less stuttering in menus and ingame.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
How about Google Chrome browser? That's one app that has become soooo slow for me.
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
As I said, everything is faster overall.

Btw the app FasterGPS which fixes the GPS location doesn't work. I granted root and the app itself is starting but when I choose the country and it should have flashed the GPS fix, the app crashes.
[RAZR i General] Burn02:
The kernel version is 3.0.34+

Bad news! :crying:

This goold be a problem for custom rom. :(

Not it's not true, on idle the data could down to 3G in order to improve battery life and to free the line. (for the operator).

But it should not do that if you are doing some download or data things. But in idle it's normal.
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Maybe it goes down in idle and maybe it did in 4.1.2 but what I notice is that it also happens when I download something or use the web.
[RAZR i General] khaledm_92:
Are the quick settings menu and the stock lockscreen still there in 4.4 ? Does the circles widget still cause a stutter when navigating?

Thanks
[RAZR i General] bughunt3r:
Could you run a antutu benchmark? And what about ART? I dont what you to test it but if it can be activated.
[RAZR i General] Csacsifiu:
Hi, Thank you for your answers. I have 1 question:

Is HANGOUTS video working?

For the Razr i 4.1.2 Google removed it from playstore.
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Quick settings and stock lockscreen are there. Didn't use circle widget because I installed the google now launcher immediately :p

ART can be activated but you will get a lot of app crashs. Like, there is an error popping up, saying that Google+ doesn't work anymore all the time.

Gonna do the benchmark...

EDIT:

Here..

Don't be irritated by the design. I modified the navbar and the status bar through xposed.

Couldn't find Hangouts video in the playstore. Only the normal Hangouts which is also integrated in 4.4
[RAZR i General] abscentscent:
Does the update include the power saving mode of the moto g? also, do you notice an increase (or decrease) of the quality when taking pictures? Or is it the same?

Thank you
[RAZR i General] bughunt3r:
[emoji15] that is a very very very good score!

The stock Jelly bean just had around 15k.... With the 20.09. Omar kernel I got a 16k benchmark score which is already very good [emoji47]

Main improvement is the 3D graphic and the database I/O

.... Now i really want that update [emoji28]
[RAZR i General] Csacsifiu:
Sorry i forgot to write "calling", Hangouts video calling. In 4.1.2 Hangouts crashes when i try to make video call.
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
No, there is no power saving mode.

The image quality seems a little bit better. Just a tiny bit. But could be my imagination :silly: Also there is no stuttering while moving the camera.

No, sorry. Can't find any options in Hangouts to make a video call. Just text and normal call.
[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
[MENTION=5142414]xNeo92x[/MENTION]

Can u please have a look if there is something like "screen mirroring" or "wireless display" working?

thx
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
Nope, couldn't find anything like that.

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[RAZR i General] 5m00v3:
Oh, that's too bad... Should be an extra menu-point in settings like in other KK-releases... :(

Maybe in Display-Settings?

Thank you anyway!
[RAZR i General] xNeo92x:
No, nothing like that.

What I noticed these days, is that the battery drain is higher. I went to work at 7:30 and my battery is now at 68%

And I didn't much with my phone. Just checked email and eBay. With Jelly Bean I would have about 80% right now.

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[RAZR i General] :
I tested it and it works fine.
[RAZR i General] j0n1th4n:
I'd like to know if the removed the native VoIP option, again. I'm really missing it :crying:

I don't think they left it, but maybe.... :D
[RAZR i General] khaledm_92:
I don't want to bother you with specifics. What I'd like to know is only whether there is any aesthetic change that comes with the update. Does it resemble the nexus 5 launcher for example (clear status bar, etc?)

Thanks again for keeping us updated