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[Nexus 10 General] Victoryengineer:
If you don't mind I've got a question regarding updating to 4.4. My Nexus 10 will arrive anytime today so it's bone stock and all I want is for it to work as advertised. I don't need to have the latest of anything and prefer to tweak and mod my laptop only.

1) Given what I want out of the N10 (some gaming and a Skype type program) should I stay with stock with 4.2 or 4.3(not sure what it ships with), or should I get 4.4 with updates.

Basically, given my limited needs is there any compelling reason for me to get Kit Kat? Thanks.
[Nexus 10 General] jlvlawrence:
You might as well install 4.4. Its in no way worse than the 4.3. Seems to run fine for me.
[Nexus 10 General] Victoryengineer:
I think I will to the 4.4 updates. I just noticed the Nexus 10 (classic) still ships with 4.2.

I was just a bit leery that I wouldn't have time to get the most current updates for 4.4 as I ship out in a few days. Since I don't want to be stuck with 4.2 while away from any connectivity I think updating right away will be the way to go.
[Nexus 10 General] abdel12345:
I tries sideloading update and applying it normally and niether worked. The only nonstock thing is that i have philz touch recovery. IO also didnt wipe dalvik and cache. Could that have been the problem?
[Nexus 10 General] tgrgrd00:
I have sideloaded both 4.4 updates. You need to use the stock recovery, that is your problem imo. Didn't wipe anything on either update and so far so good.
[Nexus 10 General] springy:
KTR16S was to fix a critical bug if your device was encrypted

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-bug-in-full-disk-encryption-explains-hotfix/
[Nexus 10 General] PaintDrinkingPete:
I didn't have any issues at all using TWRP. It was even easier than using stock recovery because I didn't have to "sideload" and was able to install directly the file downloaded to my device. I recommend *ALWAYS* wiping cache and dalvik when flashing *ANYTHING* in recovery, so it may be worth it to try that. I'm not familiar with Philz touch recovery, so I can't speak to whether that may have been an issue or not.

If you're having issues you may want to try reverting to stock recovery. Also, have you installed any mods that may cause the update to fail? If you're not 100% stock, it's highly possible the update failed the validation check and failed for that reason.
[Nexus 10 General] cosimoss:
Arrived here in London, UK:
[Nexus 10 General] thegrantonstarcause:
I've had issues with it failing using TWRP. I've uninstalled busybox. Do I need to unroot and remove custom hosts file from adaway too?
[Nexus 10 General] mastaofdacat:
Got it last night in Houston Texas
[HTC One X] pj2288:
I have tried many different variants of 4.3, such as CM nightlies, PA, but without fail the camera either force closes on trying to take a picture with either camera. Same goes if the gallery is disabled and a 3rd party app is used.

I have found some mention of this in the CM nightlies thread, and that said wiping the cache from recovery would solve the issue but it has not. I've tried clearing the app data from settings/apps and the recovery method mentioned, but the camera inevitably mucks up. This is what's keeping me from using a 4.3-based ROM.

Is it just me has issues with the front camera (mainly, sometimes back camera) on 4.3? I'm currently on CM 10.1.3 stable, but I could re-flash a 4.3 ROM if logcats are required.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
I'm just curious if anyone is going to try putting their Verizon Sim card in the phone to test it. Think I might.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lolcopter:
it won't

at least not LTE, so worthless
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Band 4 man, band 4.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucky_strike33:
What's band 4?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Band 4 is an LTE band on the Nexus 5. Verizon just opened that band up.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucky_strike33:
Thank you for the explanation. Someone in another post called Google and they said it's not compatible.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Of course google is going to say that. They cant legally say they support Verizons network. They could also deny supporting AT&T at this point but it just may work.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucky_strike33:
I'm gonna wait to buy it and see if others report that it does work.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kregstrong:
Yea but it wouldn't be able to make voice calls correct? Doesn't have the right cdma
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ItsAaronR:
Here are the networks it says it supports:

2G/3G/4G LTE

North America:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19

LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41

Rest of World:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8

LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20

http://www.google.com/nexus/5/

Under tech specs
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] busab:
Woah wait! Where is the 2100 MHz for tmobile?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ajfink:
WCDMA band 1 is 2100Mhz.

Pump your breaks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
It won't work on Verizon.

The IMEID still needs to be in Verizon to make a voice call.

Although technically, the CDMA would work, it's not in the database.

Forget it, not on Verizon.

Move along, nothing to see here.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Thanks for your input. I'll be the first to post if it does in fact work.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] equake:
Let us know or else time to go prepaid.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raibyn:
Good luck. It will make a lot of members happy if it does indeed work. I doubt it will, though. Silly Verizon - :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Can the Nexus 5 be use with straight talk?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raibyn:
Yes, that should not be a problem at all. It should even get LTE.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evolishesh:
Thanks.. I will leave Verizon in heart beat if it works..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tvtodd:
Is it possible to enable LTE band 13 (in addition to the VZW supported AWS band 4 already there) and then make calls over data using an app like GrooveIP? I could care less about cdma voice.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
They do. They use that information to show phone type on the MyVerizon screens when you login.

If the IMEID is not in their list of devices you will not get service.

How many times are people going to ignore the fact that Verizon has a database and if the IMEID is not in their database you can't use the phone to make calls. It will never register with the network unless they want it to and they don't.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
They do, but at the same time the don't IMEID numbers. If that's the only thing standing in the way, there is a fix for that as well. Again I say let's stop arguing about it and some one just try it and see what happens. We won't fully know until some one tries.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
g2 modem

Getting back on track, where is the G2 radio, and how do you push it to the N5?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
G2 Modem

Has Anyone tried flashing the G2 Modem yet?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoot15638:
my heart is already broken. gonna sell my Nexus 5 tomorrow, and just updated my Gnex to Kit Kat. Found out my contract is not up for another 5 weeks anyways.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taikyosan:
I come back to the thread to see two whole pages added... of nothing. lol. I think everyone is waiting for a "(person) have tried flashing radio and it didnt work" post. I can see this issue not dying till someone has tried it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
We are still waiting for the recommended modem/radios and steps on how to test it.

---------- Post added at 02:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:19 AM ----------

To flash a g2 modem would you do the following:

Install driver http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2513339

download g2 modem, unzip to find modem.img

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2451426

flash like on http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/05/how-to-flash-nexus-5-factory-images/

fastboot reboot-bootloader

fastboot flash radio modem.img

fastboot reboot-bootloader

Are those the right steps? The nexus 5 radio is 42 mb and the G2 is 64mb.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
Here's what I did and my results:

C:\ADT\sdk\platform-tools>adb reboot bootloader

C:\ADT\sdk\platform-tools>fastboot oem unlock

...

OKAY [ 34.685s]

finished. total time: 34.685s

C:\ADT\sdk\platform-tools>fastboot flash radio modem.img

sending 'radio' (65536 KB)...

OKAY [ 2.231s]

writing 'radio'...

OKAY [ 4.402s]

finished. total time: 6.633s

Unlocking my bootloader erased everything on my phone. The phone rebooted and it appeared like there wasn't a radio at all. I searched for network operators and there was nothing. I will try and reflash it back to factory and see what happens.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
These are just my assumptions. I take no responsibility if things go wrong.

To unlock try

Fastboot OEM unlock
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Yeah sorry dude, when you unlock your boot loader it erases everything. Try WiFi just for s and g's. I'm wondering if it is just completely incompatible or partially.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
What if you change up the radio by going to the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*, phone information, LTE/CDMA auto prl

Maybe you need to add a Verizon prl
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Just in case.. n5 modems.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2514095
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vtwinbmx:
Here are the links to flashable modems.

Flash in recovery

the vs980 is the verizon G2

http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G2/G2_modems

If it doesn't work here is the Nexus 5 modems to return to stock

http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/Nexus_5/Modems

This is not my work, here is the original thread that I found to provide this information

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2514095

you can thank autoprime for putting these together.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWhiteChallenger:
First, your very rude. Second, by your logic, I don't know what I'm talking about, because you don't understand.

OK. Whatever. So if this is the type of ignorance displayed here, I won't help.

My offer to provide the verzion 4g test ESN is officially rescinded.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricecake2000:
Might look fishy if there are a bunch of test esn's showing up lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
I just tested the WiFi and it does work. So it's not completely incompatible.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
[MENTION=1608922]ardiross[/MENTION] , did you try changing the radio bands as I mentioned above one at a time and searching for carriers? Some might not work which is fine.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
I tried that and no luck. Doesn't see anything. The other thing I noticed is when inserting a SIM the phone doesn't acknowledge it. The popup doesn't come up requesting to restart the device.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Letitride:
Just a fair warning, plenty of newbies here willing to do anything to try to get it work on CDMA - and we're heard it before. Just a matter of time before someone will hard brick theirs and regret it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
It should ask you right away. Is the Sim in right? Contacts facing down, notch top right , assuming phone in front of you screen up like your looking at it. Try cleaning the contacts too.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
It is inserted correctly. You can only put it in the correct. Same result on VZW and TMO SIMs. Also when you try to do a manual band selection the list is empty. Isn't looking good. Someone is going to have to tear into both radio images and see what they can find.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
For anyone that is testing this out and needs to revert to factory below are the steps: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/05/how-to-flash-nexus-5-factory-images/

---------- Post added at 01:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:20 PM ----------

Thanks for testing. Which modem file did you flash?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
Your welcome. Someone had to set up to the plate and try it. I used VS98011A. I just flashed back and my phone is now connecting properly again. Now when I go into Select radio band I get Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped. I didn't try it before I flashed it to see if it worked. Does it work for everyone else or did I corrupt something?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raibyn:
I'm surprised this is still going. What is the goal here? Get Verizon LTE data working on the N5? That would be the only thing that might work. CDMA and voice will simply not work, period. Verizon will not authenticate a device that is not in it's database.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fafafooey:
I try to point that out and I'm called a troll.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meballard:
There may well be ways around that, but even data working would be a step in the right direction.

Just stating it's impossible doesn't actually help anyone, at all, since with technology, that is extremely rarely actually true.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zcmack:
i wouldn't call you a troll, but you're being counter-intuitive. this site is called xda developers for a reason. coming into a thread to offer up your be-all end-all opinion is pointless. let the thread go on for hundreds of pages without any results, it shouldn't bother you. nobody is forcing you to play.

when faced with a problem, people should try to solve it. even if the end result is the phone only working on one limited-deployment band, that is still progress.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johmama:
This. A million times. I probably wouldn't even use my Nexus 5 on Verizon, but I am subscribed to this thread because I want to see if it's possible. This is XDA, I, along with everyone, should be striving to do things "out of the realm of possibility." If this should ever get up and going, I will be happy just because Verizon can go *expletive* themselves. Heck, maybe I would try to use it on Verizon, who knows? If this never goes anywhere, it would be interesting know exactly why and what needed to change to get it working. Again, this is XDA.

To the people that keep saying this is impossible because Verizon won't allow the Nexus 5 on their network: yeah, you're probably right. But what's wrong with trying? Why not try it? What if you get lucky and fake them out and get them to activate it? Maybe even get someone to accidentally add the Nexus 5 to their database. Highly unlikely of course; the people that add those numbers are back-end people that have zero customer interaction, but still. Think of all of the different possibilities that could happen. The hardware is there, we just need the software and politics to line up.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardiross:
Well said!!!! This is the reason I actually tried to flash my radio.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
There is a vs98010b (10 something, I think b is the letter) modem on the modems link from xda lg g2 forumn. I wonder if that would work better.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hotleadsingerguy:
That's exactly the reason why you think it was a good phone. The Galaxy Nexus was *terrible*. The signal quality was extremely poor, the LTE radio was beyond finicky, the battery life was sub-par, the feel of the phone was sub-par, and the screen had issues.

If you'd owned more than the one phone you'd arguably agree with me. I've owned 20+ smartphones and it ranked near the bottom of all of them. Verizon gave me a free Razr Maxx after a few months because of all of the issues (and I had it replaced 3 times before that happened).
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] floofer:
I think that the GNex was one of the better phones I used. I primarily used Droid phones before it and the GNex definitely beat all of those in my book. I thought the feel of it, screen and performance were above par for the time it came out (and still above a lot of phones today too). I guess it really boils down to personal preference.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] butterflysmasher:
So I flashed the g2 radio and while all the other networks still show up, I can't get verizon come in. I tried adding the APN manually using settings from my s3 but no dice. Going to keep trying my darndest.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
What radio filename did you flash and what band is it set for ( *#*#4636#*#* )
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raibyn:
I completely agree with that. I think we disagree on the problem and resolution, though. To me, the problem is not the Nexus 5, it is Verizon. The answer is not to mess with the N5, but to ditch Verizon. If enough people do that, eventually Verizon will have to change their ways. If a dozen or so people here on these forums figure out a way to somehow get the N5 to work, in some manner, on Verizon's network, then good for them. However, by doing that instead of leaving Verizon for another carrier, they have let Verizon get away with their horrible, evil, anti-consumer policies and Verizon will never change. I just absolutely loathe Verizon for many different reasons and will always advise people to leave them first chance they get.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
While that would be nice it is hard pressed to find another carrier with the same coverage and also for those locked in contract. Let's focus the discussion on ideas how to get this to work (which is why I went to look on xda first).
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWGP:
I actually happen to agree with your assessment... unfortunately, the organization that pays for my phone line does not. If I can get the N5 working on VZW, I have one phone, for free, that I like. If I have to go to T-Mo - which I would personally prefer - then I'm paying an extra line of service out of pocket AND I have to carry two cell phones around!

So yes, VZW is reprehensible and awful as a company - but there are legitimate reasons to hope the n5 can be made to work on their network. If those reasons don't apply to you - great! Enjoy your other carrier! I wish I could join you! Please, though - don't begrudge those few of us our tiny sliver of hope.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoot15638:
THIS IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM Andre3823423 over at google product forums.......

"Here's what we know to date. IF you put a Verizon SIM card in the Google Nexus 5 it won't connect to the +Verizon Wireless network.

No Surprise, Right?

With a little tweaking, as seen in the +Keyan X video, you can get the device to recognize the VZW network. Intriguing

The device will not grab a signal on the network after this change, but for good reason. The device can't authenticate and resister on the network due to a lack of proper APN settings. Here's where we can begin speculating!

You can modify the APN settings to just about anything you wantEXCEPT numbers reserved for Big Red's network.

Let me explain. If you go into APN settings and modify the Name to "Verizon" you can save it. If you continue to edit the APN to VZWINTERNET, you can still save it. You can even add the MMS proxy to the appropriate vtext.com address and save it.

Now, go down to MCC and change it from 310 to 311 and hit save. What happens? The APN setting magically disappears??? Do the same with 008. Set it to 480 and save . . . magically disappears again!!

Coincidence? I don't thinks so, but you can derive your own conclusion from what we know.

We know that the past relationship between Google and Verizon has been strained. Most specifically over the the Verizon Galaxy Nexus bloat and update disaster. This may have or may not have caused Google to boycott CDMA carriers with the Nexus 4.

The non-certification of the N7 tablet on the VZW network may have added to the slap in the face, especially with the announcement of Verizon's new $249 Ellipsis Tablet.

We do know that Google and Verizon have been in talks and a soft announcement has been made regarding a project brewing for a potential Q1-Q2 2014 release time frame.

My take on this would be that Google, in good faith, is purposefully blocking the N5 from accessing the Verizon network in exchange for an official opportunity to partner on something together, ultimately repairing relationships and rebuilding a burned bridge.

The Nexus 5 can connect to one band of Verizon's LTE network for adata only connection. I would like to prove this to you; however, due to the disappearing APN settings, this proof is not possible . . . YET . So the inability to to save a VZW MCC or MNC should be proof enough for now.

So we can't save settings for Big Red access, Google and VZW are working together on a project of some nature . . . I say Verizon Branded Nexus 5 .

My opinion is there is no other reason for them to be working together otherwise. So, what does this all really mean? Nothing. Something. Everything. I'd say all eyes need to be following FCC submissions over the next couple of months. "
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] butterflysmasher:
flashed the 'LGVS980_11A_RADIO' modem.img and when I went to check the band, the phone process would sit there (seemingly) indefinitely trying to load the list. I flashed back to the stock modem and now checking the band is making phone force close.

I still wonder if I found a correct verizon tower if connecting would do anything with the g2 modem.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jack584:
Thanks for posting that.

Hmm. Maybe the solution is to somehow remove whatever is causing the Verizon APN settings to disappear from the Nexus 5.

Could a custom ROM that does not include this "feature" of removing the Verizon APN settings be created and flashed to the phone, allowing the Verizon APN settings to be entered?

If somebody was able to do that, and get this G2 modem working on the Nexus 5, thus enabling band 13 support, we would have a fully working Verizon Nexus 5...then the last hurdle is to get Verizon to activate it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codemastermm:
That's my hope - potentially pushing the APN settings via a manual edit or modified APN settings panel?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
Well then someone who knows how to do that should post instructions for the nexus 5 owners here so that they can test it
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakesemaj:
APN info at http://www.4gtricks.com/2013/03/verizon-4g-apn-settings.html

Verizone 4G Lte APN Settings for Android phone( Galaxy S4, HTC One, Sony xperia, etc)

Follow The Steps >

1-Open the Settings

2-Select Wireless & networks

3-Select Mobile Networks

4-Select Access Point Names.

5-Tap the three dots at the bottom right and select New APN

Enter The Following information

Name	Verizon

APN	internet or vzwinternet

Proxy	blank

Port	blank

Username	blank

Password	blank

Server	leave it blank

MMSC	http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms

MMS Proxy

MMS Port	80

MCC	310

MNC	012

Authentication type	not set

APN Type	internet + mms
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
Doesn't doing that not work though? I thought people were saying you can't edit the APN Settings on the device and put in verizon settins. I was talking about a way to somehow push them to the device or get a modified APN Settings panel in order to allow it to put in the settings you've specified
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] codemastermm:
My thought would be editing or pushing a manually edited file (/system/etc/apns-conf.xml apparently)

However, I'm not sure if that file can be edited manually as it might be signed.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] babybacon:
I will also point out that we should probably be flashing samsung note 3 radios instead of LG G2 radios. since the note 3 has the EXACT same radio. where as the g2 has only a similar radio (the n5 is a newer revision)