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[Shield General] Motawa88:
the ps3 controller(sixaxis app) doesnt work with non steam games right?
[Shield General] nex7er:
What does it take to run this at 1080p60? I'm pushing Limelight with SLI 780s and a GN3. Using Sixaxis wirelessly gets me a bit of input lag despite running 5GHz AC1300 (meaning bluetooths 2.4Ghz frequency shouldn't be interferring nor should it be getting interferred). Despite this, 1080p60 seems to be quite blocky and choppy. Wouldn't it be good if people could select their own bitrate? :)

Loving 720p60, though.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Try reinstalling GFE or your GeForce drivers.

Controller support should work with any game that supports XInput.

The hardware of your PC doesn't matter (within reason) for determining the streaming settings, other than your network hardware. It's pretty hard to find a device that will decode 1080p60 at the encoding settings that Nvidia uses on their end. Even modern SoCs like those in the GS4 and HTC One can't do it. Pretty much the only decoder that I've found can do it well is on Tegra 3 and 4. Many devices are rated for 1080p60 decoding but they can't handle high profile CABAC encoding at the speed required to display 1080p60 in real-time.

Bitrate selections would be nice, but it's more complex than it seems to add support for it. Right now the main development focus is on fixing latency issues, improving image quality, and recovering from packet loss more gracefully.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
but a Exynos 4412 Quad 1.6-2ghz with mali 400 gpu can handle 720p at 60 fps, right?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Yeah, most devices can handle that. Although some devices have more hardware decoder latency than others. I found that Tegra's decoder has the least latency with Snapdragon's decoder having maybe another 5-10 ms additional latency. I haven't tested Exynos.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
Thank younfor your answers.

I am looking forward to future updates.
[Shield General] ZenInsight:
I hear people talking about issue with 1080p 30 vs 60 frames streaming. Does this mean that 720p at 60fps has no issues?
[Shield General] cgutman:
I'm not sure about "no issues," but it works very well for many people.
[Shield General] diegof18:
Hi, when are you planning to have a new build? i really want to try osx in full screen and with gamepad support.

i read that a fix had been commited a few days ago!!! i dont know how to build an app sadly. may be you could post a small tutorial on how to build too.

thnx
[Shield General] cgutman:
The next version of Limelight (Android and PC) will be released very soon (hopefully today). Android is pretty much ready to go, but PC has a bug or two that need to be squashed before release.

EDIT: We tried to get a release out yesterday, but we ran into more bugs than expected in the PC version. We fixed many of them but there's still more work to do. We're going to make another push on bug fixing today to try to fix the remaining bugs. I'd rather wait to release until it's ready than put out a buggy version.
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
First of all, thank you so much for creating and supporting this incredibly useful piece of software!

I'm on Linux, and controller support seems to be zilch, same goes for fullscreen and modifying the streaming resolution/framerate. Is the next patch going to show Linux some love as well?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Yes, we're doing Linux testing too. What distro are you running?
[Shield General] patopt:
Im waiting the new version. Thank you for all.
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
Ubuntu 13.10 x64
[Shield General] cgutman:
So there are some known issues with full-screen Java apps and Unity which cause problems on Ubuntu, but everything else should work. What controller were you trying to use? Did you map it first? What happened when you tried to change resolutions/frame rates?
[Shield General] spivey76:
Just some feedback for you -

I've been testing on Lubuntu 13.10 and everything seems to work (32bit *nix). The only issue that might be of interest to you is the terminal constantly prints "failedtodecode" I think. It's been a few days since I last tried.

My only other issue has to do with getting a sixaxis to properly work with the linux drivers (QTSixA). For some reason in TF2 the analog sticks aren't working right. They map fine, but if either axis on either stick is pushed to far, it starts to reverse direction (if I try and look up it will to a certain point, then starts to look down).
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
I feel really stupid, I must have missed something. I see no drop-down menus or config files anywhere. I have successfully gotten games streaming with audio, but my wireless Xbox 360 controller, used with a Microsoft Wireless Gaming Receiver, doesn't work at all. I didn't mess around with mapping it to keys since keyboard input was not working either. I had to disable my laptop's screen in order to get it to stream to my TV. Both computers are connected to a router using the ethernet wiring in my apartment. Here's a screenshot from when I was controlling it from my desktop after renaming those rxinput.dll's:

It changed my desktop's resolution to 720p, so I'll assume that's what it was streaming at.
[Shield General] spivey76:
I did the same thing when I first tried this, the controller would not work at all. When you first run Limelight, on the window where it has the "Host" and "Pair" buttons, click on "Options" (where "File" would be on a MS Window). There are the controller and preference options. It took me 30 minutes to figure that out.
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
Now I have confirmation that I am an idiot. Thank you so much for your help, messed around with it for like an hour and assumed "options" was referring to the host name.
[Shield General] cgutman:
The keyboard issue should be fixed in the next release. It's very random when it stops working but I think we've fixed it.

The next release will show a dialog box the first time it starts telling you how to map the gamepad if you're on OS X or Linux. Windows has a default mapping since the XInput API already normalizes our input to a 360 controller.
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
Good news! Got all the mappings working, had to invert the Y axis of both joysticks in order for them to work normally, and played Crysis and Just Cause 2 for about an hour without ever leaving my couch. 720p @30fps seemed to be the best quality my 100% wired setup would support, but I couldn't get 720p to go fullscreen (1080p would) so I played with the Unity side and top bar. It is very playable for me right now, this is great!

Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit
[Shield General] cgutman:
The axis inversion issue is fixed in the next release too. When you map the controller, you'll map specific directions of each axis, so the inversion is handled automatically. The quality has been significantly improved in the next release too. You should be able to push 720p60 easy and 1080p30 or 1080p60 depending on how powerful your client PC is (since PC doesn't use hardware accelerated decoding yet).

If you think what you have is playable, you should be really happy with what's coming out soon.
[Shield General] spivey76:
Like I said I bumbled around for awhile before I found that.

Sounds good. Maybe this will solve the issues I'm having with the SixAxis.
[Shield General] MaxyDad:
Looking forward to that, so I am. Thx for all the hard work!

Maxy
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
Sounds great! I've got a liquid-cooled 4770k and a 670 FTW dual-core Ivy Bridge i5, can't wait to see the improvements.

EDIT: Misunderstood 'client' as PC hosting the game.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
does skype work over limelight?
[Shield General] errorcore:
can i stream from my lenovo y500 TO nexus 7 2013.

I have a lenovo y500 laptop without optimus.

Can i stream using limelight to my nexus 7 2013?

I know that there are no streaming option for mobile keplers, but I read the thread that some users are able to stream to their laptop.

Can someone point me in the right direction on where to start?

Thank you and hope to get answers ! :) cheers
[Shield General] JaredIsNinja:
From everything I've heard, no. It's worth a try though. The only one I can think of it possibly working with is the 780m because it's a desktop 770 with lower frequencies.
[Shield General] errorcore:
regarding streaming from laptop to nexus 7

I have read this thread , 2 guys with sli 650m and 750m seems To have get it working , with a shield though . I'm using a nexus 7 but cannot go into the right direction to start.

Can you point me out . all help would be appreciated

Replied with nexus 7
[Shield General] death_entry:
Hi all, just wanted to say thanks for the amazing app!

I'm using it on the following gear

Nvidia GTX 760

LG G2 (Snapgradon 800)

Samsung Gamepad (Makes it like having a sheild ;p)

Haven't tried my SteelSeries gamepad yet

5gz AC Wireless

The game is really fluid but I get frequent drop outs which make it impossible to really play, if this was fixed then it would be amazing!!!!!

Darksiders II works really well with a gamepad

I'm getting my computer upgraded to Haswell etc next week so it might improve the drop outs not sure, but I do get them a bit when playing Darksiders using OnLive...

I have reverted back my version of Nvidia GE so I can try out the external connection on it eventually....

It's definitely a step up from using Splashtop Gamepad alot easier to launch games etc...

If anyone has any questions let me know :D
[Shield General] sammaj:
No Audio on Pi Version

Firstly a big thank you to the developers, limelight-pi is the perfect addition to my lounge and I've been able to stream in 720 at 60fps very smoothly with use of the xbox controller and it is very playable. Well except for the missing audio!

I'm aware many have had issues with the audio and I've followed all the advise I've seen posted by others on how to get it working but no avail thus far. Thing is that from the console I can play wav files and the audio comes through fine which leads me to believe it is an issue with limelight. When I launch limelight and it boots into Steam Big Picture my TV displays a small popup box declaring 'Unsupported Audio' or something along those lines. I've loaded libopus0 and bcm2835 and alsa.

If anyone had other suggestions for getting audio to work over HDMI with the pi version that would be great, or a fix in the next version.

Again thanks to the developers, if the audio gets fixed I'll probably find myself using this daily!
[Shield General] cgutman:
It might just be that you're using a phone. Phones have much smaller antennas than tablets or laptops, so they're more sensitive to being moved around. You usually don't notice it, because it's not often that you need very consistent network connectivity. Other streaming video apps have a buffer that prevents short network drop outs from causing the video to stop, but we can't do that since it would introduce delay that would make the game unplayable.

It might help to move closer to your router. If your computer is connected wirelessly, that could cause issues too. It may also help to connect on 2.4 GHz. 5 GHz is very sensitive to obstructions and distance. Even though it may be theoretically slower on 2.4 GHz, consistency is better than raw performance here.

You said you had similar issues with OnLive. Did you have issues with Splashtop too?
[Shield General] death_entry:
I do get the same slowdowns with Onlive quite frequently, where as limelight pauses the streaming for several seconds... Splashtop doesn't actually slowdown or freeze from what I remember but it's too slow to actually use. But I will try using 2.4ghz tonight... I'm assuming then Sheild has better antennas then? I might give the app a go on my galaxy tab and see if a tablet has better luck..

Tbh my computer is a little messed up atm so I'm gonna retest everything once I've upgraded everything this week as that might help a lot :)
[Shield General] Motawa88:
is there any way to use this with a radeon/ati/amd card?
[Shield General] gutlessVADER:
No, it utilizes Nvidia's proprietary technology to capture and stream the content.
[Shield General] death_entry:
[MENTION=4289241]Motawa88[/MENTION] try out Splashtop Gamepad....

Ok I tried got the upgrades in my computer running now have 16gb Ram and i7 4770k :D this has literally doubled my framerates in bioshock :D

I have tried the limelight app and still have quite a few probs however the Splashtop is diff story...

5ghz performs alot faster than 2.4ghz by switching to that it makes the different between a bit laggy to *almost* indecipherable...

Can stream 1080p almost perfectly, I'm having a fairly hard time trying to really find the framerate drops, haven't tried to stream in 720p

This is streaming Bioshock when running on my computer at 125fps....

Limelight constantly reports AV loss and just suggests lowering the stream quality (not sure how you do that), but the splashtop performance does show how well limelight could work... don't forget im not using a Tegra device but I am using the THD version of gamepad...

Anyway thought id post my findings :)
[Shield General] cgutman:
By "lower stream quality" it means to lower the resolution or frame rate. Try 720p60 or 720p30.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
When is thnext update? Last one is almost 2 months ago.
[Shield General] MaxyDad:
The most recent update to the android client is in post 401, released 20 Feb.

Maxy
[Shield General] diegof18:
android client from 401 works a lot better on my nexus 7 2012 i using but still get some shutter, is this common or its there some hardware that works perfectly with limelight?

just curious! i think this is an awesome app!!!
[Shield General] nivanov:
If you are using Nexus 7 in 720p 30fps, then the stutter is most likely due to network latency, rather than hardware. Try using a USB ethernet controller for your nexus and see if stutter disappears.
[Shield General] diegof18:
ill try to get one, in the mean time any recommendation on how to reduce network latency? i bought a new dlink 868l 1750ac router just for this!

and hope to get it working on wifi! thanks
[Shield General] cgutman:
The problem with the Nexus 7 2012 is that it doesn't have dual-band WiFi so you're at the mercy of 2.4 GHz performance and interference. You might try manually changing your router's 2.4 GHz channel to one that isn't occupied (or is less occupied). You can grab "WiFi Analyzer" for Android to help figure out which channel is best.
[Shield General] spivey76:
I believe they are asking about the PC client. I'm waiting on that as well. Heck if I knew how I'd build it from github tonight.
[Shield General] MaxyDad:
Oh, I see. My bad - thx.

Maxy
[Shield General] Motawa88:
I want to connect my note 2 with limelight to my pc that acts as an hotspot (shares ethernet internet over wifi) but i cant connect with limelight... is there a workaround?
[Shield General] cgutman:
What happens when you try to connect?
[Shield General] Motawa88:
Works pretty gold now in my Galaxy note 2. Only Problem, ther is a big lag Evers 15-20 seconds and 1080p crashes the app.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Can you get logs of Limelight crashing in 1080p? Also logs of it lagging if you can too.

Use ADB logcat or the CatLog app. PM them to me if you get them.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
Those apps are not working.

It crashes on the Galaxy S2 too with 1080p. Does the device have to have a 1080p screen?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Does it happen with 1080p60 or just 1080p30? The device doesn't have to have a 1080p screen.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
Both
[Shield General] cgutman:
Try following this tutorial to get logs: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1798316
[Shield General] Motawa88:
I am afraid I don't have time for this. Like I said it crashes on the s2 and note 2. Maybe it will be fixed randomly on next update.
[Shield General] diegof18:
Any news on a release date of the next alpha? i saw the pre release for android and want to try a new alpa for pc :D
[Shield General] Motawa88:
can you make the rumble/force feedback work with the ps3 controller?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Unfortunately, Nvidia's protocol doesn't support this. The SHIELD doesn't have a rumble motor so they didn't include it in the protocol as far as we know.
[Shield General] cgutman:
New Official Release for PC and Android

The new version is finally here for Android and PC.

The APKs for Android have been attached to the first post. The PC release is available on the GitHub releases link in the first post.

Tell us how it works for you after you give it a try.
[Shield General] diegof18:
Thanks a lot!!! pc version is working great on my macbook retina, i have no connection errors of any type although i have some video pixelate may be i need some faster processor, works better with 720p 30fps im using a 450mbps 5ghz connection with a real optimised 868l dlink with ddwrt so i dont think its a connection problem.

in my nexus 7 2012 y works better without pixelation, though i have some connection issues cant work around them 65mbps seem to be to slow even for 720p 30fps. wish i could change its wifi chip!

thanks for this great app!!!!
[Shield General] Motawa88:
still crashing on 1080p
[Shield General] cgutman:
1080p works on all of my devices. You're going to have to get me a log if you want any hope of this getting fixed.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
Just sent you the log.
[Shield General] metheos:
No audio on Ouya

Hi there, I installed limelight on my Ouya today and the video playback is very smooth and the games are running like a dream!

However, I have no audio output from the ouya!

System Specs:

Windows 8

AMD 990FX Chipset with Realtek audio

GeForce 780 graphics card

Suggestions?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Usually audio issues are on the PC-side. You could try Limelight PC and see if the problem occurs there too.

If it is a PC issues, you could try reinstalling your Nvidia drivers.
[Shield General] spartango:
What're the blockers on getting the openGL and mDNS support (PC) into the next release? Anything I can help with?
[Shield General] metheos:
Thanks for the tip, I did a fresh install of the latest drivers and the audio is working now!

This is great!
[Shield General] cgutman:
Sorry for the delay giving you feedback on your pull requests. Most of them are 90%, but just need a bit more work before they're pulled in.
[Shield General] spartango:
No worries, they were done pretty quickly and dirtily (1 weekend), but let me know if there's anything I can do to help out.
[Shield General] MalaBouM:
Hi, i ve got some lags every 15seconds. My computer is connected to an wifi ac routeur with a gigabyte ethernet and my slartphone lg g2 is connected to the router with wifi ac at 5 ghz. I use a moga pro, is it bluetooth interferance ? Any one have an idea ? Thanks

Envoyé de mon LG-D802 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Shield General] cgutman:
Try downgrading your display drivers to 332.21. This is a known issue with recent drivers.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Play Store Publication

We've published the latest version of Limelight (slightly tweaked with new icon from XDA: MalaBouM) on the Google Play Store. I'd recommend that everyone reinstall the Play Store version for automatic updates and crash log uploading. New APKs will continue to be posted here.

Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limelight
[Shield General] TrekHackz:
Great! Trying it now!
[Shield General] SimoxTav:
Small OT: What about a contest for the Limelight icon on the Play Store? :D
[Shield General] cgutman:
One of the XDA users already contributed an icon. I'm going to stick with that for the near term.
[Shield General] tallnerd1985:
This would be a great addition to XBMC in the future
[Shield General] Motawa88:
not working anymore. failed to video stream or controller detection
[Shield General] Stickman89:
Yup can also confirm this, although sporadically it will stream yet extremely slowly [MENTION=349163]EvEn[/MENTION] at lowest Setting 720p 30FPS. DesireHD just can't cut the awesomeness of LimeLight in software decoder (lacking HW decoder). No issue with Kainy on this device that being said.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Sometimes this happens. It's an issue with GFE which gets finicky if your device appears not to be on the same subnet as the PC.

You're testing on a Desire HD?
[Shield General] diegof18:
I get a lag issue, not av loss but more like some frame skip, the video never cuts but its start to go in little slow jumps, not sure if i made my self clear. video never cuts but it seems to goes in slow motion.

this happens in my macbook with 5ghz [MENTION=1034050]450[/MENTION]mbps that experience no av loss at all and in my nexus 7 that have av loss but also plays really slow for a couple of second some times just like the macbook.

do someone experience this?

thanks
[Shield General] spartango:
Pull requests for PC mDNS, openGL, and App Chooser support updated! I believe the major issues are resolved.
[Shield General] death_entry:
Oooo official support for remote external access coming! apparently need 5mb upload...

http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/25/nvidia-shield-gets-temporary-price-drop-soon-to-support-remote/
[Shield General] Motawa88:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...evamped-gamepad-mapper-and-more-on-april-2nd/

will this mean gamestream anywhere for limelight too?
[Shield General] SimoxTav:
Official BT keyboard and mouse support too! This is becoming really interesting! :D
[Shield General] Motawa88:
i am still getting connection error btw. it worked beforce google play.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Sometimes this slowness happens even on the Shield itself with the official streaming app. I'm not sure if it's a PC-related problem or network-related.

Be careful assuming that your PC has no AV loss. Right now the PC doesn't display warnings about AV loss, so it's possible that it's happening but you just don't know about it.

Yup, I want to do some OpenGL tweaking because I think there's some extra performance we could squeeze out of it. We're going to ship a new PC version in the next few weeks, so we'll pull your changes in then.

It should, assuming Nvidia doesn't make some changes to their protocol in an attempt to break Limelight (I wouldn't put it past them).

I just pushed a new version of Limelight Android (2.1) with keyboard support and improved mouse support. It's on GitHub right now and should be live on the Play Store in a few hours.

If you've rebooted your PC and it still doesn't work, you could try clean installing the 332.21 drivers to see if that fixes it.
[Shield General] spartango:
Sweet. I'm sure there's room for improvement and happy to look into it/dig out the profiler if that's helpful. Unfortunately, I don't have any Wintel integrated graphics systems to test on, though, and those seem to be the problem.
[Shield General] diegof18:
its there a work arround to anable full screen on mac? i know you disabled cause it brokes the controller but i think its still work if you are Using a wired/wireless controller connected to the GFE PC instead of the streaming device?

thanks
[Shield General] Attreyu:
¨Hardware compatibility is expanding to gaming notebooks, though they'll need to be both high-end and recent, since it only works with GTX 600M, 700M, and 800M mobile GPUs.¨

Does this mean we will be able to finally run Limelight while connected to our laptops ? :D
[Shield General] cgutman:
It should be possible if you launch it from the terminal.

Try a command like this: java -jar limelight-osx64.jar -host <PC IP address> -fs

As long as they haven't done anything to the protocol that breaks Limelight, it should work. We'll see on the 2nd I guess ;)
[Shield General] Attreyu:
In that case, the only thing missing from Limelight, in my case, would be using the integrated gyro in the majority of phones as a mouse, for FPS games :D Kainy has it implemented, and I understand that it´s not difficult to implement, nor bandwith hungry.
[Shield General] Motawa88:
are you saying i could play battlefield 4 on my transformer prime with its keyboard + mouse?

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ETA for ios release?