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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shoe-jitsu:
yeah stuck with verizon on a gnex as well... still waiting for 4.3 :(
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Hey guys, devs have started making kitkat Roms for you. I imagine by now you're all out of warranty anyway so just wait for those to get perfected and flash them. You have nexuses, easiest phones to install custom Roms on in the industry. Yeah it sucks Google cut it off, but hey your going to get your update after all, maybe not the way you planned, but when it's all said and done, they'll be just as nice, if not better anyway!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yackovsky:
what's saving money? what's having a job? what's sim unlocked phone?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kustaa:
Sorry, this is not personal to anybody...but stop the crap guys, get over it. Its a 2 years old phone, and in the way tech goes on nowdays? Its an old phone. Its about consuming, market, does that sound to you?

Lets focus on devs work. Period.

Enviado desde mi Galaxy Nexus mediante Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
"Made of money" If you honestly can't afford 200 or 300 bucks every 2 years you have a more serious problem... You may want to get a better job before you worry about a phone. I actually agree with the 18 month rule. It's not like Apple isn't doing the same thing to a point. The 2 year old Iphone 4s runs like donkey **** on ios 7 to the point that you pretty much have to upgrade. I'm shocked that we got 4.3 to be honest as just about every carrier has introduced the quicker upgrade cycles.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
I could care less that there is no kitkat for the gnex! That phone sucked! It was almost the worst phone I ever purchased. Junk parts, poor design, horrible battery life, crap camera, why would google support it? Their like me and everyone else, dump that phone and move on. And what is this "can't afford a phone nonsense?" If you're on a subsidized contract, you are buying a new phone, albeit not up front. R.I.P Galaxy Nexus... :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
Spoken like a true dickhead.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
How is that being a dickhead? Companies should spend millions just so a small percentage can be happy. Of people who buy nexus phones most still aren't on a two hear old phone they are techies. If you mean the money comment even minimum wage jobs you should be able to come up with that. The truth hurts I suppose lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kenshin33:
Ti OMAP wifi driver?

doesn't the GN use a broadcom chip (bcm4330 WIFI/BLUETOOTH), the only thing that is closed is the firmware, the rest is in the kernel tree.

wihci is the same as the one found in the glaxy S4 (cm kernel tree for jf devices is 3.4.0).

even so if it is a ti one, would be the same as the one on the panda board :

here take a look : they have omap kernels up to 3.8

http://omapzoom.org/?p=kernel/omap.git;a=tags
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
Someone who doesn't want to spend a few hundred dollars on marginal differences does not have a problem. I don't have issues with innovations or upgrades, I have issues with people assuming something is wrong with someone else if they don't want to use their hard earned money on a new phone. I myself will be spending over $700 on a new phone because I have unlimited data.

Those of us on Verizon can't get subsidized pricing OR nexus devices. Does that mean something is wrong with us? If your answer is yes, you're a dickhead.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
Well actually, subsidized pricing is all you're going to get on verizon cuz the nexus 5 sure isnt going there...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
I am on Verizon. Far from "marginal differences" BTW. I'm coming from an HTC one I had to sell and the difference is night and day. You can keep unlimited using a program like edge. You break up the payments using month to month cycle. Its hidden deep in Verizon menus. I did it to get my one. Its not edge but you do end up paying off the device in small payments and still get to keep unlimited look it up. Couple of us who got the HTC one day one did it. Its cheaper overall really.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wade_county:
I found this interesting on the latest Android Central Podcast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmkYuIL7_8&feature=share&t=38m38s
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
No, you can't. Every rep I've talked to says you go to a Max program and lose unlimited if you switch to EDGE.

I'm familiar with the dPP but stores keep telling me I'm not eligible and keep trying to get me to go to EDGE.

That STILL doesn't solve the no Nexus issue, I'm afraid. :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
... Okay im lying then.. Dude whatever no point in arguing with you I know how I got my HTC one... If you want a nexus don't be on Verizon anybody could have told you that...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DizturbedOne:
Who cares how old my device is and how new the one I'm using now is... I bought a Nexus to get support. My old Nexus S 4G got android in Gingerbread, ICS, and Jellybean flavors... It would still be getting used if it wasn't bricked. The GNex has better specs than many iPhone users put up with. What a shame
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
I think you and I are having totally different conversations.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
If you bought a nexus for support you should have bought one that was not at the end of the update length. How is 18 months hard to understand? That's more than enough. They are releasing nexus devices yearly now. Upgrade yearly or deal with 18 month updates. Quit crying.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Considering it was impossible to even get a nexus 4 at launch till 6 months after its initial release for most your really only getting 12 months of updates with the N4.Unless your preordered the N5 an get it straight away you may as well skip that too if your hoping for 18 months of updates.I bet the nexus 4 won't get android 5 , only the nexus 5 & the future nexus 6 will get android 5 an so on.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
Yeah, you could probably get it on a 2 year contract a year from now for $50 lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
Even if that was the case it's still acceptable. If they release once a year. But you are forgetting that they supported the gnex for longer than 18 months. So they may do the same with the 4 and 5. Either way the phone is over two years old I don't see how people can be upset it's not getting the latest update Lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
I understand. It's getting 4.3, they should be grateful. At least Google is throwing them a bone...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
You can't even get the nexus 5 yet in my country in retail stores , you can only order it off the google playstore an its sold out , so if I eventually do get one well there goes my 18 months of updates already depending on the wait which could take months lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
And you probably will only get one update with Motorola, Samsung or HTC... take your pick...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maxdimaz:
i hope i can running with 4.4 using Gnex :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
Well you can always get a Samsung device that gets released on older firmware then gets one update period. When you think like that that 18 month window seems a Lil better huh? I'm from America so I ordered the 5 the first day. Gnex is just pretty much dead. Its been dead I just wanted to hold on until the 5. It made it but it's a very slow device now. Pick up a new nexus 7 or a nexus 4 and play around a minute. You will see how outdated it is and why Google didn't bother.

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By the way I'd be more than happy to order and sell and send people nexus 4 or 5 to their country for cost of phone and shipping if anyone wants to go that route that can't get it until later this year. That would suck. If I was in a country like that if be trying to do that too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
I really don't get why people are so harsh here. Why is it so hard to admit the 18 month policy is bull****? Look I'll be the first to admit, I couldn't stand using hardware that old. But telling someone to drop $350-$400 on a nexus 5, in this economy? I'm sorry but your out of line. Let everyone vent their frustration, if you don't like it, don't post. It's not rocket science.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
No one is telling them they have to drop $350-$400 on a nexus 5, but they should have seen the writing on the wall a year ago when it comes to the gnex. They have gotten their moneys worth, anything else is gravy... Time to upgrade folks...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RevengeFNF:
Apple releases a new iphone every yeas. iPhone 4 was released 3 years ago and was updated to iOS 7.

So, Apple can do it, but Google can't?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mssam:
valid point...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Yeah the iPhone 4 is older than the nexus S... just sayin

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Except the fact the Galaxy nexus literally came out just months before the nexus 4 on Google play... Look I said it before and I'll say it again if your got a sprint or Verizon model, it's a carrier phone, you should know what to expect, I don't feel sorry for ya. But the play store owners got screwed here.

And if it's truly a driver issue with TI, Google should address it. Give everyone a heads up, let them know hey we're sorry but we can't get the drivers because TI are a bunch of ******* and too scared to compete inspite of the fact they were very successful.

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Seriously though one day TI is going to regret getting out of this market. Guess their happy with graphing calculators
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fivefour:
Your correct, Broadcom Wi-Fi chipset. Good catch. If you research broadcom and their inability to provide proper documentation for their drivers and the overly complex code they create you will understand what I meant. It's been months since I worked on a GNex kernel but I have delved into Broadcom code on MIPS based routers quite a bit in the past and it is a nightmare to even have a rudimentary understanding of how it works (to most of us anyway).

I will check out your link but I have to assume the binary firmware blob will be incompatible with an entirely different kernel tree (full revision 3.4.y over subversion 3.0.y).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
As much as I love newer faster phones, I hate how disposable mobile technology is. If I actually think about how much phones/tablets are responsible for frivolous ewaste I may never want to upgrade(out of mind out is site) I mean what would happen if phones copied video game consoles. 1 product for 5+years many updates. Sure make upgrades in design but keep the core the same. I think that would be a more environmentally responsible model. Sure the note 3 might piss all over the gnex but let's face it if Google continued to optimize and improve the ui could be significantly better device than it is now currently
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
So many whiny ass cry babies here. Gsm model owners did not get screwed. The phone came out in 2011 were pushing 2014. Quit crying. Everyone here seems to have that liberal mentality that they are owed something. And then the idiot who says Apple does it why not Google boo hoo.. Apple put half baked ios7 slow and buggy as crap on the 4. Google didn't screw you. They gave you longer than 18 months. Upgrade or deal with it. Quit crying girls. The hardware is slow and dated. Why did people even expect to get the ota? Never seen this many cry babies in a forum. Get a job so you can afford a modern phone if you want a fast stable device with latest update. Wow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kenshin33:
that's only the TI stuff, graphics (PowerVR) and camera (Ducati), the broadcom stuff isn't there (gps and wifi firmware). may old binaries will work, if not the S4 has the exat same chip and is on newer kernel, it's binary blobs should work!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
Yeah this economy is booming right now, no one is taking jobs that are beneath their qualifications, all students are made of money, and no one has families. I for one think phones get dated way too fast. Call me liberal but the thought of all the used phones sitting in an African dump I am not cool with. Never mind all the resources it takes to build the damn things. Speaking of being "owed "something why not have an option to buy an os once a phone is past a certain. If Apple is pushing updates for a phone older than the gnex why wouldn't they try and compete.

Besides your *****ing about people *****ing is no better
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
They don't have to compete Lol. If the phone was meant to run the OS it would. Period. Quit crying about the economy. 349 for a new nexus is not expensive. Or deal with the phone you have and the os it runs. Crying will do nothing and they don't care about petitions Lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Savagehax just because you never worked for anything in your life an have parents who can't say no to you don't brag.There's things in life I rather spend my money on than a brand new nexus every year,its not about being poor.Google are only dropping support because they want to keep selling new devices to new customers as well as past nexus customers ect, if everyone hung onto their dated nexus phones google would actually have to pull a miracle out of its azz for people to be impressed enough to wany to buy or upgrade if they were still receiving updates anyway.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
For a lot of people $400 is a lot of money. I don't see why that is hard to comprehend. Really makes me question if you truly know the value of a buck. More and more Americans live below the poverty level. Never mind the fact that in many countries the nexus is $500+ have a few kids and tell me $400 is not a lot of money
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
If google want you to upgrade every year good for them but I just flash a custom kitkat rom as save myself $400 lol, more than one way to skin a kat.The nexus 5 is just lg G2 without the better camera an without the larger battery or screen with official updates.If lg G2 had kitkat no one would even consider the nexus 5 as its only selling point is kitkat an its cheaper price over the lg g2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
First off I'm a grown ass man. My parents don't buy me ****. I work my ass off and went school for years. You don't know me at all. Second. There are things you would rather spend your money on fine. But don't cry because Google is not supporting your device any longer. You sound childish. They updated the phone for a long time. Why should they have to cater to special little you? Don't want to upgrade phones? Don't. But why all the crying from people. I knew the phone was coming out months ago. As you should have to. Could have but 25 or 50 a week back. Instead you want to keep the outdated device and cry and moan that Google is picking on you or something. The phone came out years ago. Updates are over. It lags. Not a power house anymore. You can say I'm an asshole or whatever but truth is at least I'm not a grown ass man upset because my outdated phone is not getting the latest update. Grow up guys.

Sent from my outdated Galaxy Nexus until my new shiny nexus 5 comes.

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This is not correct. People buy nexus devices for several other reasons. It's similar to the lg g2 because the new nexus is based off that flagship device. Duhhhhh. You are so smart. The nexus is a cheaper better looking phone with more developer support coming. I'm sure you will get the nexus 5 sooner or later. Until then ride the gnex out.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] McDuffSmith:
Okay...

1: the galaxy nexus is still a powerhouse. I have mine overclocked to 1.6ghz and its faster than every touchwiz or sense device I encounter.

2: we didn't get allot of updates. we only got 4. when I got my device I was under the impression that I would get full support for the life of the device. my device is still running WELL and I'm no longer getting updates.

3: times are hard. allot of people, myself included, don't have that extra $25-$50 per week to put away. congrats on working your ass off and going to school. I work my ass off too. I still cant put $50 a week away. BILLS AND RENT COME FIRST.

I will never understand why people on this forum and other Dev. forums are always so arrogant and rude.

maybe you could enlighten me on that, eh?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
The gsm galaxy nexus came out late April of 2012 in the states, get your facts straight! 2011 my ass.

And I agree that mobile tech is too disposable. I guess it's the downside to technology advancing so quickly. Good news is the difference between the nexus 4 and 5 is far less than the difference between the gnex and the 4 so it seems to be slowing down. That and hardware is exceeding software and kit Kat looks to make hardware even less important with better memory management.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
1. Not a power house. Not faster than s3 s4 note 2 HTC one etc

2. that is a great amount of updates. A lot of other devices get one update. The gnex is now 2 phones behind new device. The CPU is closed source and I'm sure Google also got tired of trying to get GPU drivers worked out as well.

3. Sorry you and other people didn't have it to put back and order the 5 but that don't make it any less silly people are crying about the lack of an update on an outdated phone.

On a side note it's not being arrogant or rude it's just common sense. If Google could push the update they would. Or even if they didn't because they wanted people to upgrade you still have the option for a 4.

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Not so much. The nexus 5 CPU is at least twice as fast as the nexus 4. The screen resolution is better. Lte support. Far less? No. I think your decision in that may be based on they both have a quad core CPU and 2 gigs of ram. But that CPU is at least twice as fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] madd0g:
Good luck getting updates there past the 18 months mark.

Breaking news: no vendor updates phones longer that 18-24 months OR even less.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] McDuffSmith:
stop being a fan boy. "I went to school, got a job and im better than you". grow up. you seriously have nothing better to do than pick on people? NICE!

go back to work and stop ripping on us.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] josteink:
My galaxy s1 received two major android updates, while my galaxy nexus received only one

That's impossibly poor for a nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Maybe so but both will be looong outdated before you can tell a real world difference between the 800 and pro. The n4 is still fast, and 1080p screen resolutions are pointless on phones 5 inches and smaller. The human eye can only see 300ppi, the nexus 4 is 318. LTE? I actually had an LTE phone before my n4, really don't miss it. Sure, getting 60mbps is great for showing off speed test scores to your friends, but I usually get around 12mbps on my hspa+ now, for mobile web browsing there isn't much difference. And downloading stuff for me anyway doesn't really matter since I'm on at&t anyway and have a stupid 3gb cap.

You don't have to tell me the snapdragon 800 is faster. I'm a PC guy. I'm currently rocking a 3 year old phenom II x6 and just because it has 6 cores, doesn't mean it can hold a candle to Intel's modern haswell based dual cores. But it's still plenty of power to get the job done, battlefield is running great, whose complaining?

Same with the snapdragon 800 vs pro. The 800 is really about twice as fast all around, but the s4 is still getting the job done and is android going to be any faster? Probably not. Android was pretty much maxed out after the s4 dual core, and PPI was maxed out with the 4 too.

I'd still recommend the 5 over the 4 to gnex users because obviously it's going to get updated longer, it's available from Google while the only way you're going to get the 4 now is used off eBay, and it fixes all the quirks people had with the 4. Just saying in terms of real world usage, the difference is far less
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savagehax:
I'm not saying the 4 won't get the job done. And for the most part you are right you won't tell a huge real world difference. But it certainly is a faster chip. I think the 5 will be a great phone regardless. But I think if people can find a good deal on a 4 from eBay or cl or swappa they should grab it. But being upset that this phone is not getting the update is absurd.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Well I do have to say this. It's a nexus. It's practically designed for custom Roms. I knew when I got my 4 that there might be a chance that I would hold onto it longer than Google was willing to support it, but also knew it would be community supported. The kitkat Roms have already begun and it's still very early... So early that the only actual device with an official 4.4 build is the nexus 5. So why doesn't everyone just unlock and root now and keep an eye on the development forum instead of complaining about it?

I mean to me yeah I see their point and it is a raw deal but still they can do something about it without buying a new phone
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Darkwatch321:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Galaxy-Nexus-Android-44-kitkat-petition/217287285112334

I made a Facebook page for Galaxy Nexus owners to get Android 4.4 kitkat! Share it Guys! Lets make a statement to Google!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Just curious do you plan on getting the nexus 5 an if so don't expect to get the next major android os or any new features but maybe a few kitkat updates with some extra stock wallpapers an bug fixes, just saying, wish you all the best, by the way there's already some octacore devices with 3gb ram planned for early next year, hope the n5 doesn't becomes next years paperweight once the galaxy S5 an other next gen devices hit the market in 2014.Hey at the end of the day the only reason we need nexus devices is so we can port their software updates to the non nexus superior devices, all the best with your purchase.I'm rocking slimkat 4.4 on my gnex an I didn't even have to drop $400 or lineup to get it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
Your opinion, after the gnex dropped support for a device that could easily support it is crap. In reality the gnex only got one worthy upgrade. 4.1,4.2,4.3 are all Jellybean and nothing really too exciting. Why not hold the nexus to a higher standard? All is said and done and nothing we say is likely going change that. So in a sense it's pointless

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I know one thing for sure is that Ubuntu phone is looking more and more like a perfect replacement for Android
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Just waiting CM 11 or Custom Rom...Sad
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Google never 180's on decisions, so your all best just to find another way at this point. I mean out of nowhere they killed reader, and I can tell you there were allot more reader users then gnex users. We were all pissed raised all kinds of hell and in the end, Google killed it anyway and we all discovered feedly, which is better than reader ever was anyway. So sometimes you just got to find another way.