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[RAZR i General] bracima:
I hope to get Kit Kat before the new Nexus or Moto x+1 get released.
[RAZR i General] RafaelOliveira:
It's kind of a miracle the Razr I get KK, it'll be impossible the Android 5L come to us. Only for the newest devices, like the Moto X+1.
[RAZR i General] FarGuddu:
My Razr i XT890 came from the UK. I don't know, if I get an update here in Pakistan. Fingers crossed!
[RAZR i General] qubbey:
When kitkat is released, it should be no problem to download it here on xda somewhere and flash it yourself.

If every user could say whatever he/she wants, then he/she would be allowed to say rude things, too.

Edit:

Childish logic or not, that's what you said [MENTION=5206325]antkalaitzakis96[/MENTION].

But fortunately that's not the case, because xda has forum rules that prohibit every user from saying whatever he/she wants, but instead stick to a nice and friendly tone.

"Don't use fullquotes, instead only quote the specific part you are referring to" would be a good rule, too. ;)
[RAZR i General] antkalaitzakis96:
childish logic..

It's a matter of respect..if you can't respect someone's opinion then you are not a part of xda or world either ;)

and stay on topic
[RAZR i General] Furydrone:
It's great that xt890 is getting Kitkat, but they could have just told us that update will be before 2015. It would have been much less disappointing than finding out about constant dealys. Having in mind evcerything in this topic, I won't be surprised if we are to get it in Q4.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Constant delays? Just one so far... And it's still Q3
[RAZR i General] naddel81:
will The update on 4.4 delete my apps and root? How To prevent that?
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
It will probably delete apps but if you setup a Google account they should be downloaded back automatically although the data like settings, game progress will be lost. Check if those apps have a backup function. You'll lose root too. I don't know if there is already a tool to regain root or if one has to be created. You probably want to wait a little while when the update arrives to see the reviews of others.
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Just use titanium backup ;)
[RAZR i General] naddel81:
OK, Thanks. So I have to root it first, right?

---------- Post added at 11:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 PM ----------

Otherwise I wont get my backup into 4.4 again.
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
It's taking a lot of more time than I thought it would take.

I'm thinking already about switching to LG G2, NEXUS 5 or 1+1. Now I'm thinking about phone that will receive fast update to Android L.

It's a pity that we don't have leaked test version of 4.4 - maybe we could build from that.
[RAZR i General] dog121:
You can guarantee that the moto G/E moto x + x1 will see android L first.....
[RAZR i General] naddel81:
I did backup all my stuff with titanium backup to SD card. I am really curious if there is going to be a root for the new 4.4 update as well. because without root they can keep their 4.4 update to themselves.
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Well..i think the Moto G its not as good for replacement of Razr I.....maybe the Moto X??, cause me brother has the moto g and yes it has all the stuff of kitkat and that, but the performance for me, feel slowly, idk, just my opinion :)
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
I got my hands on a G and the performance I'd say is about the same, if not a little better on multi tasking. That camera is there only thing keeping me from switching
[RAZR i General] totex71:
Good for you! :good:

You get the almost same experience in terms of performance.

Minus: sd card slot, and maby more poor battery life. I don't think anybody cares about you decided to throw money at something not even worth the upgrade.

wasn't this thread supposed to be about news for the kitkat update only, and not for you all to whine because you can't wait.
[RAZR i General] Fede79:
Watch out if u have a custom recovery and do OTA update.
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
And if I went back from a custom ROM with root to the EU stock without root using rsd lite, do you think OTA will be safe ?
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Obviously
[RAZR i General] xtr3m3:
Here's another update.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Nothing we didn't already know
[RAZR i General] Chamelleon:
Except this that if they already deal with SSL fix for XT907 there is small change that we not gonna wait for it for next few months.
[RAZR i General] naddel81:
Custome recovery? I have only a Titanium backup that I want to reinstall after The 4.4 update. Unfortunately we need root first.
[RAZR i General] _sgo:
Still!? Q3 just started about 3 days ago...
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Yes, but its 3 months long :D
[RAZR i General] Danish78:
Why don't they call it 4.4.4 instead of 4.4.2 if they are applying all the patches from 4.4.4?
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Who said they applied all the patches?
[RAZR i General] Danish78:
David has written in a comment that they would be releasing 4.4.2 for Razr I in this quarter with the security patches applied.

Besides they are doing the same thing for Razr m as well I think.

Check the previous page and last comment with the picture. It's at the bottom of the picture.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
I know what he said. The was a security vulnerability that got patched in 4.4.4 and he had to wait for the announcement/release before they could include the patch in the version he is working on for us. Nowhere does it say patches, just 1 patch. You want our version number of 4.4.2 to be changed because they included 1 patch?
[RAZR i General] Danish78:
Take another look mate it says "patches". Would have been less cumbersome if you had actually read the post I referred to.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
"Sorry for the delay in giving an update on the RAZR i upgrades but I had to wait unit Google announced KitKat 4.4.4 today (I am bound by a NDA). A significant security vulnerability was discovered by OpenSSL (https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140605.txt) and is fixed in KitKat 4.4.4. We had to wait until the security patch became available for 4.4.2. Consequently, all of our upgrades that were in carrier labs worldwide had to be respun, tested and resubmitted again. We still expect to get the RAZR i 4.4.2 upgrades (with the security issue fixed) out in the Q3."

Tell me, where do you see 'patches' ?
[RAZR i General] Danish78:
I think you don't understand English that well or you are trolling.

I referred you to post #560. Read the attached picture. It says patches everywhere.

Secondly, There isn't just one security patch in 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 combined. Just because the guy said patch because he was referring to the heartbleed bug only, does not mean that there is only one security bug fixed in the patch.

If you can't understand it, then don't start an argument for no reason and let someone else answer the question. This thread is for kitkat Razr I updates not one-to-one arguments.

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And one more thing FYI, patch or patches more or less means the same thing since one patch can consist of several bug fixes and one newer patch can contain all the previous patches.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
That post does say patches twice (as opposed to 'all over'), and once for the Razr I. Again, just because one or even several (even though that's not implied anywhere) security patches got included doesn't mean they might as well call it 4.4.4 there's more than just security patches that are being applied in android updates. I understand it fine, it seems you don't though...
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
As far as I know they only include the 'security' patches from 4.4.4 in 4.4.2. We haven't heard of any other bugs fixes and improvements they will implement from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. Also some minor visual updates like the dialer and personal app is not confirmed to be included.

But the differences between those two versions will be slim.

But that is my 2 cents.

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[RAZR i General] raf.lozano:
So, semantics....

*and flies away* [emoji28]
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Does anyone received invitation to test new version before 4.4 goes live ? I thought that in that way we could attain new ROM faster.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
I believe there are some people who volunteered for the soak test. I don't think they are allowed to upload the rom though, and you probably wouldn't want it either since it could be unstable
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Is anyone running stock rom? Custom roms won't detect updates.
[RAZR i General] omiez:
So what's happening is the beta out for test?
[RAZR i General] caiotmoraes:
I cannot answer for sure, but I dont believe so. I've been on the soak test program and have answered a few questionaries, everytime there's an update we usually receive an email telling us about it. Any way, tonight Im going back to stock and will see if the systems recognize a update.

Or the beta is already out and I've not been selected. :(
[RAZR i General] anerik:
Yeah, they updated their software support page and now the razr i at least says "future plans coming soon" so that's gotta be something, just hope it isn't a 4.1.2 bugfix xD, razr d1 and d3 says the same and those 2 were promised to go at least up to jb 4.2.2, so i think that's good news for us. The question is when
[RAZR i General] ReeSilva:
To me, since the Kitkat release the support page says "Future plans coming soon"
[RAZR i General] tb110188:
Folks, i have a great news, i received confirmation via chat that our devices will receive the Android 4.4...

I asked: I'd like to know what are the plans for the Motorola XT890 (our devices), if Motorola will update or gonna abandon it's users in the actual android version wich is 4.1.2...

Motorola answered: Thiago, Motorola will update your device for the Android version 4.4...

She was direct and the anser comes in really no time. I asked if this is for sure and they told me yes but no time for the arrival, can be this year or the next... =^.^=
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
Well, that sounds really awesome, if she can be believed. But I very much think so!

Let's quitely celeberate till it is stated on the update page! :)
[RAZR i General] bracima:
Yeah!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I want it soon!!!
[RAZR i General] pstub:
This just made me a very happy camper! Although I'm sure I'll be camping for quite some time before I see the update available on my phone though... My pessimistic expectations are that we won't see them before next year, hopefully during Q1. I truly hope that I'm wrong though, would be a very nice Christmas-present for my beloved phone!!!
[RAZR i General] Beackman:
I have made contact with motorola's support and they confirmed to me the razr i will have the android 4.4, but, without date.....
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Great news, KitKat was just released so couple months of delay is quite normal in android world. :thumbup:

Great news it means our phone will not die, and hope maybe even some day we'll get CV cyanogenmod :)
[RAZR i General] bracima:
How do you contact Motorola?
[RAZR i General] dj_mol3y_x8:
Don't want to be the party pooper but I've just Spoke to moto both in live chat and there call Center 0870 901 0555

In live chat they tried to tell me the ment 4.0.4 and 4.4 was a mistake!

And when I spoke to there call centre they said no planes to update the RAZR I

all the best

Moley

if you like my work or I helped you hit the thanks button

From my RAZR I running stock 4.1.2
[RAZR i General] Beackman:
Its via online support on motorola Brasil website.... but i forget to take the SS :eek:
[RAZR i General] bracima:
Ok, thanks.

I send message to Motorola UK. Now waiting the response
[RAZR i General] dj_mol3y_x8:
I did that and UK said to my they ment 4.0.4 so I called them and they said there are no planes to update the RAZR I

UK contact 0870 901 0555

all the best

Moley

if you like my work or I helped you hit the thanks button

From my RAZR I running stock 4.1.2
[RAZR i General] dagoban:
I contacted the German support and they said they don't have any information about it and they can only refer to the web check.

I guess we'll just have to wait.

But a future plans coming soon is promising!
[RAZR i General] Beackman:
So, why motorola Brasil says that they will update to 4.4 Kit Kat???? that's no make sense.
[RAZR i General] purplet:
It makes perfect sense. Moto Support is totally unqualified, uninformed and mm moto itself doesn't give a **** (think about it, its a simple yes or no question with no reason not to state the decision on the website.

If they still have to decide it that's even worse because then they'd truly suck)
[RAZR i General] dj_mol3y_x8:
I don't know my screen shot of them telling me they ment 4.0.4 is on page 5 of this thread

all the best

Moley

if you like my work or I helped you hit the thanks button

From my RAZR I running stock 4.1.2
[RAZR i General] iharcha:
I've contacted motorola service (latam) and here is what they said. --> They confirm that they are trying some software changes but they still don't know wich version of android will be working...

cheers!
[RAZR i General] yostyle:
i've also asked to the all facebook pages, and only the official one (don't know if american or brazilian) answered saying the same thing "we don't know nothing about it, stay tuned" .... LOL

i hope that the 13th of this month, together with the global launch of moto g, they're going to say their decision about razr updates
[RAZR i General] bracima:
I dont expect any news on the event, but may be changes in the web about the updates calendar.
[RAZR i General] ColdKiller93:
I think, if there is any update you'll read it here for sure. Our update is still aimed for Q3. I wish they just were faster pushing the update through the labs but i think we'll just have to wait a little more.
[RAZR i General] caiotmoraes:
I meant the beta test, not the official release, as for now nothing news by OTA. =/
[RAZR i General] francois64:
To be patient ... this reminds me another "Motorola" story, when Atrix owners were asked to wait for an update ( Jelly B) and at the end, Motorola after months of postponing decided to give up ...

I expect to be wrong !
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
My guess is that we will receive KitKat ... but I am afraid that I personally won't have Razr I than.

I'm thinking about switching to LG G2 or Xiaomi Mi3 or Nexus 5 or 1+1.
[RAZR i General] omiez:
My Razr i is waiting but i switched also to N5.
[RAZR i General] purplet:
I will switch if my razr i breaks, vor if the battery gets bad.

Right now it does all that I need but the delay sucks.

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[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
We on track to start entering carrier labs for their validation the beginning of next month﻿.

Which means, end of september....

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[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Do you know that our just guessing ?
[RAZR i General] bracima:
By Mark, forum manager from Motorola.com
[RAZR i General] nicop91:
Aaah if you registered your device on Motorola's website of your country, don't go to the US website !

It turned the "RAZR I" in my stuff into a "RAZR" which is not the same phone at all !

My IMEI is now attached to this wrong phone model, their support cannot delete it and neither can I !

I guess I won't be part of the test then... :(
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
The "end of september" part Is just my guessing, the other was taken from David g+
[RAZR i General] pirast:
Zzzz taking incredibly long
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Still two months left. Who knows, it may come even later
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
omg two years and three phones later, and a completely different operating system, and I still check this forum. Unbelievable. The android update model isn't broken, it never existed in the first place. Aren't like all android phones from 2.2 up to 4.4 wide open to a huge security flaw now? And even if the RAZRi gets updated, what happens when the next flaw is found? Hopeless.
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Please, get out of here.

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[RAZR i General] vimesUK:
Yeah I know what you mean.

Every so often I wonder the same and just pop in to check on its status. One day it might be time to charge up my Razr phone again to update it. In the meantime I'll carry on using my Nexus 5.
[RAZR i General] mervluk:
Whatever floats your boat. But not all of us, especially RAZRi users, cry for our dinner from mummy Google. We're happy making our own dinner.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Lol like iPhones are so safe. There are vulnerabilities found in all major softwares all the time. Finding them and publishing it is what actually makes it safer...
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
No, finding, publishing AND MAKING AND INSTALLING PATCHES ! I didn't receive ant update security or not throughout my usage of RAZR I.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Not every and each Android device receives all the latest updates. I assume this was common knowledge but apparently some people don't understand or accept that. Some phones are less known or less popular and Google can't develop updates for every device out here. Most of the time the updates are available but the manufacturer (samsung, motorola, htc) won't push it through cause they don't feel like working on another version where they have to put their own customizations through. They rather wait for major updates and push them to their latest line of products instead. Google can't be blamed for this. And just because your (2 yr old) device isn't receiving updates doesn't mean it's suddenly extremely vulnerable for attacks and malware. If you use your brain that should be enough.
[RAZR i General] xtr3m3:
There are a lot of people that upgrade their phone every few months, or even every year. There are some of us that are quite happy with what we have. The phone makes calls, sends SMS, takes pictures and it can download most apps from the Play Store. I'm looking forward to KitKat, and planning on keeping this phone until it dies or explodes.

Also, the security flaws will be patched, check out posts by David Schuster on Google+.

Sent from my XT890
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
Ya but I got tired of buying new hardware and retiring perfectly good older hardware (sometimes only a few months old) just to get software patches. That $tuff started to add up! It was like that old "pay now or pay later" thing. I switched to pay now. The Nexus model seems better but unfortunately the hardware, especially the microphone, isn't very good. I got the RAZRi in the first place because of the good microphone, but had to retire it because of a Bluetooth bug that made it unusable in my new car.
[RAZR i General] Moto1987:
security patches are coming from Google play services in the future! when play services is updated from the store you have the latest security patches if there are some new found.

Google it! it was in the tech news a couple weeks back.
[RAZR i General] iolinux333:
This is good news if true. Will this work on my Motorola Defy? That's a great phone too but Motorola never updated it past 2.2. It was still being made when the iPhone 4s was being made. The 4s is scheduled to continue to receive the latest OS through the end of 2015.
[RAZR i General] Moto1987:
i don't know but why not? you can look what version of play services you have and than you can look what version is available (not over play store)
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
That's not entirely true i think. The heartbeat security problem was found in openssl. And openssl is a stand alone library that others are using. So google play services can't correct the mistake. It's need a whole new library to get it sorted out. And those will not be updated through play store in the near future. But maybe for newer phones, google is now trying to use there own ssl format (aldo based on openssl), it will work.
[RAZR i General] Luca2903:
almost seelling phone

Waiter a lot for 4.4, now i'm saying goodbye to the phone :D
[RAZR i General] PedroPauloKAL:
cyanogenmod 11 razr i

Hey guys,someone can explain how install new cyanogenmod 11 4.4 kitkat in razr i?:laugh::laugh:

Sorry my english :(:laugh::laugh:
[RAZR i General] ddalex:
chcomfo sphink

CM11 is not yet ported to Razr I. There are several people working on it though, but proprietary binaries make this a difficult task.

Probably we must wait for the motorola update to have 4.4.
[RAZR i General] niksy+:
Honestly, I look at my XT925 and at my brother's XT890 and I want his goddamn phone... The RAZR i is a(n almost) perfect smartphone, in my opinion.

You could also switch to CM11, if you want the latest :) It's not an official ROM, but I don't care... It's still impressive and works great (considering DEFY's) hardware. Even the 3.0 kernel builds are great.

Funny how the old rugged Moto is still holding on... Quarx might even come out with Android L for it once the code is out. I always considered the xt890 to be the only real successor to the DEFY(+) but it seems it never reached its popularity :(
[RAZR i General] spongeboov:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2843748
[RAZR i General] DinizZ:
4.4.2

Does anyone have new news?
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
There are still some delays. Target is still Q3 (ends 30 September). So it could be next week, but can take up to December (or more...) if it really doesn't go to plan.
[RAZR i General] purplet:
Maybe one of the two people working in it got sick and that's why there is a delay

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[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Or maybe his pet hamster got run over by a steamroller? If we're gonna speculate...
[RAZR i General] BirneKlub9:
Hahaha???
[RAZR i General] YaPeL:
Their codemonkeys run out of bananas, thats what happened.
[RAZR i General] MrEnderkiller:
More seriously, I tried to contact the French support of Motorola and they said that they "have no information on whether the KitKat Android version will be released or not", not sure if they're badly informed or we're all f*cked.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
Meh prolly some intern who doesn't know. David at Motorola is who you want to ask about kitkat for razr i
[RAZR i General] igorkode:
how do you root phone when it was kit kat, if someone asked, and this is already an old phone, and we'll all change our phone
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
Or follow the official Motorola forums ;) they are working on it. They are not yet at beta testing the firmware.

Verstuurd van mijn GT-P5110
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
You have a link?
[RAZR i General] kamutka:
It's ridicules. KitKat has been released year ago and Motorola proves again it can't keep their promises or deadlines.

Does anyone remember how they fuc...up upgrade of original Atrix 4G to ICE?

Surely this company is last I would trust in their statements or promises. Even if they manage to bring KitKat to Razr I it won't change much general perception of Motorola who doesn't much care about customers.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
I don't believe they've ever promised kitkat for the razr i, so relax. They did promise an update to jelly bean and they kept their promise. As for deadlines, well Q3 isn't over yet.
[RAZR i General] Hazou:
yep:

The motorola forums

And sometimes the one from David Schuster

As what f3bruary said, they never have given us a deadline. They said as soon as it is done it will be released and they hope to get it out in Q3 this year. But no promises. The only promise we got was that we will get an upgrade!
[RAZR i General] francois64:
+1 I agree remembering my old Atrix ...

Maybe Kitkat will be released when Android L wil be too !
[RAZR i General] JKDaniels:
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[RAZR i General] Merinorus:
I don't think you should write this :p
[RAZR i General] balthor80:
The same, I got the survey ;)
[RAZR i General] omiez:
I got the survive but unfortunately I sold my R i.
[RAZR i General] f3bruary:
What the hell happened here? ^^^
[RAZR i General] yostyle:
Motorola has finally started the last step before releasing KK! :highfive:

Hope you guys selected at MFN will stress your phone like never before :good:
[RAZR i General] pohlipit:
Is there really any indication that there will ever be an official 4.4 release for the Ri? I guess that it's at end of life already.