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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] josteink:
Not to nitpick but that is one major update (Jelly bean) and 2 minor updates.

Just because Google changed its versioning schema compared to Eclar/Froyo/Jellybean/Honeycomb, doesn't change the fact that the Galaxy Nexus has received poorer support than most flagship consumer-devices.

That's just not acceptable. One major update? For a Nexus? That's an insult.

So what about OMAP no longer being supported by one of Google's subcontractors? That's not my problem, now is it? Why should that cascade onto me? If that's going to be Google's attitude to this whole mess, how can you trust anything you buy from them in the future?

When Microsoft finds one of their investments going bad, they dont tell their customers worldwide that "sorry guys, you're screwed". They take the cost, they fix it, customer get what they paid for.

In short, Google just killed the most fundamental part about the Nexus program: Guaranteed software updates.

How's that not for a complete breach of trust?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I moved on to the G2 already... BUT I agree that I feel scammed out of some good updates. ICS was short lived and JB was announced within months with little to no changes. Personally I think JB was released so fast because of the Apple Lawsuits that Google had to change a few things in a hurry. But we really didn't see anything spectacular. Typically a Nexus should see a whole 4.x > 5.x

4.1

4.1.2

4.2

4.2.2

4.3

4.3.1

4.4

All kind of minor updates. There is no reason why GNex should be bumped off. I was really hoping to see Android 5.0 on it. Every update was a disappointment. Mostly just bug fixes. 4.2 brought in a few new features but nothing show stopping.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
If the fact that you don't get at least one more major update doesn't concern or annoy you then you are a fool.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] liveMike:
sometimes I just wish I was clueless like my wife and happy with the iphone 4s that she has. its an iphone and it does what she needs. its updated with all the other devices. that all she knows and cares about - no stress about phones ever since she got her iphone. it always works, she has no idea what a bug even is. Google i swear you are pushing me to iphone one day at a time. 1.5 years of support is total bs. no 4.3 and on? My gnex is running 4.3.1 right now and its super fast with no lag. These newer phones (2 yrs old+) have a much different lifespan than say the OG droid did. The RAM in the gnex and processor are more than capable of running any OS put out today.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johrie:
Instead of complaining about no KitKat for our beloved Gnex. Has anyone tried slapping a N4 port together for this phone?

I did a quick port since i didn't have much time on my hands and it didn't boot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shriom_manerker:
porting a rom is just a fake top layer ! 4.4 goodies start underneath ! there are a lot more under the hood changes compared to its visual changes.i was excited to see lower ram usage but google broke my heart :\ oh well lets see what the devs have to offer :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] im the doctor:
i was going to buy a nexus7.. kk i'll go for an iPad

and i'll delete Google as start page, https://startpage.com/ will be fine, no more marketing on my searches.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mangeek:
Here's why...

So... At the heart of the Galaxy Nexus is a SoC from Texas Instruments that TI basically abandoned. The 3.0.x kernel that runs on the GNex was customized for the SoC by a group of people who are No Longer Around. For all intents and purposes, the Galaxy Nexus is stuck on Kernel 3.0.x forever. KitKat's big advantages come from the newest kernels having smaller footprints and better ways to handle memory.

Google uses Linux so that they don't have to be kernel hackers. They piggyback Android on the Linux Kernel to save themselves the trouble.

It's true that someone might be able to get KitKat working on the 3.0.x kernel from 4.3, but a lot of the advantages of KitKat won't be there, it would basically be KitKat's appearance but at Jelly Bean's performance.

The only solution I see for this is for someone REALLY experienced to tear-into the special 3.0.x OMAP kernel and start porting the changes into whatever kernel KitKat uses. That's a Big Job. I don't think CyanogenMod is going to accept a kernel that's so far off the beaten path.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fivefour:
I'm a kernel developer and I will tell you their is no way the Ti OMAP WiFi driver will ever be ported to a 3.4 kernel. It is much too complicated and undocumented, thus we will never see a fully functional 3.4.y kernel on the Galaxy Nexus.

I think this is a mild slap in the face from Google but I would truly rather stick to a 4.3 or even a 4.2 based ROM than have a hacked up half-baked 4.4 ROM on our beloved Nexus.

It's time for me to face the hard truth that my preferred device has reached EOL status, I must now either accept the Galaxy Nexus in it's current form or choose to move on to greener pastures. Their will be 4.4 ROMS but they will never truly be 4.4 (no radios or kernel), the best you will get is back ported kernel features with a hacky 4.4 top layer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] im the doctor:
this makes sense, but i'm still disappointed with Google. How they are supposed to fix fragmentation if Gnex is stuck on a lower version ?

I saw too much "4.4. will support 512... solve fragmentation, the peace in the world, etc..." Now i'm disappointed. This is just crappy marketing.

At least Apple does it better.

Google is supposed to support his nexus series, from wiki:

So who said "let's use that SoC!" ? Google, is its fault.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
I think if anyone has stayed from the path it's Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] foghelmut:
If Google themselves said this kernal situation is all screwed up, then I'd be okay with it.

But they said they're doing an 18 month lifecycle on their products. So screw them. I'm getting a smaller phone with a nice camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] naturalblue:
exactly this! most gnex users aren't just regular consumers, they would have understood the situation given further explanation, but to say something like "oh, we aren't doing anything because it's past 18 months" is just a slap in the face. lost a lot of respect for google on this one.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] senseamp:
So does that mean that since Google sells Nexus devices for a year after launch, and supports them for 18 months after launch, they only guarantee support for as little as six months from when you buy one? That's not the impression I had about the Nexus device support, but I guess I was wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fivefour:
Obviously Google would have had a contract with TI, that contract likely ended after either 18 or 24 months. This contract wouldn't have began at the Galaxy Nexus launch, it would have began after the SoC hardware was finalized, months prior to the launch event. Google isn't going to pay TI again to support a two year old device, they want us to upgrade. I really don't see how anyone can expect Google to resolve this, I hate it as much as anyone and am certainly not saying give up. I just don't understand the expectation is all.

What Google could do is waive some of the Nexus 5 cost to existing Galaxy Nexus owners who purchased the device after a certain date, this isn't perfect but could go along way in public relations and future Nexus sales.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Zepius:
that is the worst idea ever and will never happen.

you purchased the phone when you wanted to/could afford to, the timeline of update support was known because of the nexus S.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sagara.sandaru:
Is it possible to make a 4.4 build for GNex if there was a 3.4 kerne???? Because dveloper of the Golden Kernel was working with a 3.4 kernel and he is gonna make a 3.10 kernel too

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Golden kernel's developer is already working on 3.4 kernel How is that??? Is it possible to make a 4.4 build if he could finish the 3.4 kernel?

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Is it possible to make a 4.4 build for GNex if there was a 3.4 kerne???? Because dveloper of the Golden Kernel was working with a 3.4 kernel and he is gonna make a 3.10 kernel too
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sarun_biotech:
Owners of one the most developer friendly devices ever made; on a site called xda"developers" are *****ing about google not providing "official" stock updates anymore.. ;-p

And people threatening to ditch nexus phones and moving to other flagships : good luck with your official updates from your manufacturers after 2 years..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
I already have a build compiled from sources

update binary is not working with our current recovery (tested on TWRP)

after modifying all update scripts, stuck at google bootlogo and logcat says Open GLS error
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AbhishekS:
Good to see someone trying. All the best. Eagerly waiting for a 4.4 ROM.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
don't worry got it booting ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
Here we go

I am the first guy with galaxy nexus running kitkat :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] knepe:
Cool :) What is working?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] yashade2001:
Galaxy Nexus has OMAP4 and omap4 supports 4.4 system. That means there is no hardware problem. Google just wants our money.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thegtfusion:
nice! when will you release it :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sesme:
Kit kat on gnex with stock kernel 4.3 on spanish forum:

http://www.htcmania.com/showpost.php?p=10923034&postcount=14
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Grarak:
Almost everything except bluetooth, wifi, sensors

I will try to fix bluetooth and wifi

sensors won't get fix now because google changed some stuff and I cannot compile sensors from source anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fivefour:
I purchased the phone well knowing about EOL almost two years ago, what I was saying was about those who purchased twelve +- months ago.

worst idea ever...lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RedDeadDorito:
I'm just sad that even if we do get custom 4.4 ROMs, we won't get the "Under the hood" updates that are the most important (better RAM usage, etc.)

The phone's lag disappoints me sometimes.

Then again, Google could've at least tried working on a version for our kernels to get it as close to the real 4.4 as possible. Kind of like how the old iphones have some missing features but have iOS 7 (most are for the camera right?) nonetheless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] retro83:
When I bought my Nexus, the Nexus S was still getting updates so how exactly was I supposed to know? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fodi97:
Looks nice :P any ETA? Can't we use 4.3 binaries?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Google just do a deal with one of the many phone manufacturers an throw out a cheap nexus phone to snag buyers who are easily impressed by a new phone with latest android software then abandons it after 18 months, win win for both google an manufacturer an stuff what the consumer wants longterm, at least apple are upfront an charge more for their phone but always deliver quality an update older devices as much as they can.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] samagon:
Apples and oranges.

You buy Microsoft os. You don't buy android, you buy hardware and get the os for free.

I'm surprised so many are shocked by this, like it's some new thing. My nexus one got updates for about 18 months, I expected the same 18 months of updates for the gnex and got it. I'll expect 18 months out of my nexus 5 that I should have in my pocket soon.

My friends that had the g1 got a similar experience, the nexus s is an anomaly if it got more updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nexusaurus:
Congrats. You are polluting the environment with your consumerist approach about smartphones and gadgets. All the debris goes to 3rd world countries.

Besides few people have the privilege of buying phone each 1 and a half years.In this economic recession, the world is at crisis and many people losing their jobs are just happy with their "old" devices with 18 months old, which, happen to not be update, even they are capable of handling updated OS.

You must be very proud of yourself.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] astarman:
the fragmentation wont be that bad since they havent sold the gnex for so long.

its so hard to buy a new galaxy nexus !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] samagon:
Lol.

This doesn't seem to address the fact that Google has only by exception updated devices after 18 months.

Anyway, you should be happy I'm supporting a consumerist economy, rather than just stashing my cash in a bank. Maybe my good fortune and spending will help revive the economy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kuronosan:
Consumerism is actually unhealthy for the economy.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
18 month cycle is gone. In all realty most have moved on especially with the new upgrade plans with the carriers. I know the only reason I'm here is because I had to sell my lead phone.

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That depends on other factors indirectly.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lchiu7:
I bought my GN about March last year. I have had it rooted my of the time but that's about all I've done.

About a month ago I got really tired of the lag, even though I was running Lagfix and Trim regularly and decided to factory reset it. I could have done a Nandroid backup or Titanium backup but didn't have enough room in the phone for the backups. Anyway with most apps in the store and anything I sideloaded able to be restored from my PC, I only had to backup SMS, save pictures and then reset.

It was like and day. The phone is like new again. That does beg the question, why do Android phones slow down so much after a period of time whereas from my experience with others, iPhones don't seem to do that? My wife's S3 is also beginning to lag which means a factory reset for her too but that will be easier. And it is a query, not the start of a war!

Anyway back OT I am disappointed by the lack of 4.4 for the GN but then I have been on 4.2.2 for a while, even though 4.3 is waiting there to be installed since I have heard bad things about 4.3 for the GN (WiFi reconnect and video glitches) and I don't want to root the phone again.

I guess I will be either keeping my GN for a while longer unless there is something I really have to get in 4,4 or I want to go LTE, whereupon my son gets my GN and I upgrade :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Thanks google you just made my decision even easier to switch to iPhone 5S.I knew google would do this that's why I been waiting patiently for almost a year tossing up the idea whether to buy another android phone again after the gnex or go iPhone.I knew gnex wouldn't get android 5 but to skip 4.4 as well just sealed the deal for me.Just a quick question to google why would I put my money into another nexus or upgrade to one when all you have to offer is 18 months of updates from the day it launches.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Roymam:
If a single developer does this in two days:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2507846

Imagine what Google could do within a week. Where are all those guys that claims that this is the TI processor issue?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cor-master:
Honestly I'm kind of sick of the TI theory myself. Has google said that's the issue? Nope they said it's 18 months old. Did they have a driver issue with the Nexus S? nope it was 18 months old. Did they have a driver issue with Nexus One? Nope it was a 18 months old. So everyone claiming the Galaxy Nexus was cut off from life support due to TI exiting the business, you're all taking blind stabs in the dark and speculating. History says they are sticking to a tradition started with the Nexus One right wrong or ugly. It's one I knid of disagree with, but if they wanted an update, they could get one one way or another.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jonpaterson:
All,

I am sure that some of you have seen this - but this is why the sylus gets loose.

That is not good!

I guess it could be re-enforced pretty easily - but beyond the tech says that it was difficult to ge the cover off, so until we can get some shots of the inside of the case I am going to wait to attempt this :-)

Sending it for repair is not going to help either - this is obviously a design fault. Anyone got picture of a stripped unit?

http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6298030&postcount=27
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ccsnet:
I've not had a big prob although I am trying not to remove it as much because I heard about this. I have how ever noticed that when I take my phone out of the case it does catch the pen.

May be either take it out or have a 2nd pend to use instead is a better option ?

Terran
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tony12140:
I recently updated my Rooted GS4 to 4.3

I started by downloading the sofftware then when i went to install it, it brought me to Clockwork recovery saying that what i was trying to install was unknown or something but i knew it was the firmware so i accepted it. It all went through installing and was booting up but stayed at the Yellow Sprint screen. for a long time

I read multiple forums looking for what to do, i reset it first by taking out the battery(over 5 times), then i tried it without the sim or sd in. Nothing. I tried wiping the data and cache from CWR still yellow screen. i am about to try restoring it to the stock rom (currently downloading it) but before i wanted to come here for help on how to do it or anything else i can possibily do.

Please help. :confused: :crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
How do I get other applications into the Pen Window that shows up so I can select other applications to put into their own windows? There arevery few Windows availablefor this... Right now I cannot put most of my apps into their own windows...

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeromepearce:
A quick search in the 'Apps' forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2469767&highlight=pen+window

Needs Root, however.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
There must be another way. Why is root required, specifically?

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeromepearce:
If you read the thread, you will see that certain files need to be updated:
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
Thanks.... Drats I don't want to root

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MiniDolan:
I've cracked the screen on my One. I was just wondering if there were any instructions on how to replace the digitier floating around the interwebs. Can't seem to find any.

If anybody knows the method, please let me know.

Thanks in advance.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spencer311:
I just did the same thing... Makes me sick. I can't find anything either. Its all one x and one s.
[HTC EVO 3D] brandonhun:
Any hope for someone porting over KitKat to our device?
[HTC EVO 3D] Yndi:
i guess the same people which care about porting 4.3 to the evo will go on and port it, somehow.

if they are at the same pace as for 4.3, in less then a month there should be usable ROMS.
[HTC EVO 3D] 72andrew72:
really looking forward to kitkat from our devs :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
I had to flash back ICS on my Evo3D today. So slow and disappointing...
[HTC EVO 3D] photonxda:
WHY ?
[HTC EVO 3D] thebryceee:
I'd like to see how 4.4 works on older hardware. I still have my evo 3D and it'll be interesting to mess with it on there.
[HTC EVO 3D] vladyslavfox:
KitKat looks very nice. I'll be waiting AOSP 4.4 for SGA2
[HTC EVO 3D] Lothaen:
APNs got messed up and it couldn't find a signal at all
[HTC EVO 3D] Soldat0815:
SlimRoms are working on SlimKat for the GNex.
[MENTION=2941594]johnnyslt[/MENTION]

can you port this to the evo?
[HTC EVO 3D] flashallthetime:
There isn't a lot of difference between jb and kitkat, I flashed a kitkat ROM on my moto today, its all minor updates and most of the apps from kitkat work on jb anyways. I hate the stick launcher, who wants Google search bar on every screen, not me. Overall speed was exactly the same as jb .

Sent on my Moto X
[HTC EVO 3D] CleronFX:
i think kitkat will be on the Evo 3d :)
[HTC EVO 3D] Arbelzapf:
Did you give ART a try?
[HTC EVO 3D] brihuthogg:
I have flashed johnnyslt's 4.4 cm 11 and it runs great battery seems good no lagging smooth as....

only minor problem with mms and stock browser is black screen but chrome and firefox run great, its a great rom for how early it is i didn't expect a kitkat till after xmas:D
[HTC EVO 3D] fazly:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526391 unoffical
[HTC EVO 3D] radditz145:
CDMA?

I see gsm has 4.4 , but is anyone working on a port for the cdma version?
[HTC EVO 3D] VIRGIN KLM:
A bit offtopic but I couldn't hold off saying it, when do people make questions about CDMA devices and their support (generaly) I'm always like, Why the hell people buy CDMA devices? Why? Why do people give in into carriers locking them by buying something that looks like a phone but it's actualy a lock between their hands, their rights, their pocket and their carrier which grants them to violate you in many ways? They really don't understand that paying nothing or little for a device that actually costs something else in the unlocked GSM version comes with a catch and first of all it means that you don't actualy own the device? When is this USA CDMA Carrier ballooney going to explode? People don't get that what they have in their hands is not a phone, it's an instrument that carriers will use against you, ah, and on top of that, since you haven't paid for it, ofcourse you don't own it.
[HTC EVO 3D] Kippui:
Some people have TERRIBLE tmobile coverage but can't afford ATT? Where do you go? -> Sprint MNVO or Virgin/Boost mobile. Can afford ATT but dont want tmobile budget network? You go to Verizon. It would be nice if our governments forced ALL carriers to not tie simcards to specific phones but that isn't the case. We can't really do anything about that unless everyone in the US does a boycott or something(which is unlikely). I mean most of us here probably KNOW the downsides to CDMA but we have don't want to inconvenience our self with worse coverage/increased price for our specific needs/budget just to have a phone that takes a stupid sim card LOL. I mean its not that serious in the scheme of things to be worried about...
[HTC EVO 3D] hossman:
I own mine. Paid $150 over a year ago.

I pay $25 a month for a phone, with WiMAX coverage btw.

I don't see it getting a whole lot better.

When I don't want to use this phone anymore I will sell it, or throw it in a draw....I feel I have definitely gotten what I paid for and then some....
[HTC EVO 3D] VIRGIN KLM:
It's easy, this is what I would do. If I really HAD to go on a CDMA network, I would never buy a phone that the carrier would even have the interest to use it as it does against me, so I'd get a cheap feature phone, and grab a smarthphone on a GSM network that offers nice prices and pay for it cash. I don't think it's really such a big deal that people make it over there, been in the US and in different states and I had anything else than bad reception. If you show that you don't like something a company does they will eventualy be forced to change it, and I don't really see you losing really anything at all. The first thing is also NOT to give in to that idea-balloney that just because a company has a premium device for a funny price or for free with a X year contract thinking after that you actualy own the device. Oh dear, no, you don't, that's the catch, these companies are not stupids.
[HTC EVO 3D] raymondllr:
sure！ But I‘m waiting for 4.4 sense。