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[Shield General] sofakng:
Is this the right place to discuss the iOS version?

The Android version is 100% smooth and perfect, but the iOS version stutters quite a bit even on my iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air 2. I'm willing to help with logs or anything else that might be needed to help...
[Shield General] nk33:
It almost never stutters for me as long as I am using ethernet or 5ghz network.
[Shield General] linkandzelda:
I have the same problem, running Nexus 5. 3 finger tap brings up the keyboard, but it appears that touching any of the keys results in sending touch input to the game and not to the keyboard overlay. I can see the keyboard keys do not show as selected when selecting them, so I'm unable to send any keyboard input.
[Shield General] Hobbes2099:
As a personal experience, I'm loving Limelight. I'm enjoying Divinity at a comfortable pace.

Divinity is a keyboard-intense game. Press-and-hold Control for some things, press-and-hold Alt for others.

I have Teamviewer installed and running simultaneously on my phone for this.

Could 3-fingers keyboard have an additional mode for these type of key presses?

Just too clarify; I'm running Limelight on a tablet and simultaneously Teamviewer on my phone. Both pointing to the same PC. Pressing the Alt key on Teamviewer's virtual keyboard (see embedded picture) will register on my PC and the game will react accordingly.
[Shield General] liveoles:
Your device is processing the A/V data too slowly.

How powerful should the android device be in order for a smooth and artifact-free stream? I attempted to use limelight on an android TV box and the specifications (at least what it says) are:

Dual core ARM Cortex-A9

CPU: Dual-Core 1.5 GHz

GPU: Dual-Core 400 MHz

1 GB ram

It is running Android 4.2 with a custom TV box UI, if useful.

At every settings (from the lowest to the highest) it has a consistent low fps (~5 or so) and there are artifacts everywhere. Then the message in the title keeps popping up.:(:(

Any helps would be greatly appreciated :)

P.S. I tried forcing hardware acceleration but it just says failed to initialize the video something.

P..P.S I tried it on my phone and it works flawlessly btw :)
[Shield General] farplaner:
I have the exact same issue. The keyboard comes up but I can't actually type on it.

Edit: it only happens with Google Keyboard. The AOSP keyboard doesn't have this problem.
[Shield General] linkandzelda:
How can I get the AOSP keyboard on my devices non-root, 5.0.1?
[Shield General] Roland_:
Color correction

Hi there,

i have one very technical question:

I own a Lenovo Yoga 2 Tablet which is powered by an Intel Atom BayTrail Processor. Limelight works really good on this device including 1080p@60. The only problem is the somehow high brightness (maybe too high gamma) on the decoded frames. This problem only exists with hardware decoding, software decoding produces a perfect color and brightness representation.

Is it possible to correct this with changing how media codec decodes the stream? I already set up a working build environment on my computer and tried to change "videoFormat.setInteger(MediaFormat.KEY_COLOR_FORMAT, #)", but this doesn't seem to change anything.

Any advice highly appreciated
[Shield General] farplaner:
My OnePlus One came with AOSP keyboard. Not sure how to get it without it built in.
[Shield General] DJXSFly:
Range Extender

So I have my gaming PC downstairs. I have a Netgear 7000 upstairs in the living room and a EX6100 plugged into the rig downstairs. I do have the firewall settings turned off and a static ip for the rig. I tried connecting the the range extender and the router with my lgg3 with limelight but wasn't able to connect. I've even opened the ports even though nvidia says my router already has them open. Is the range extender my problem or did I miss something.
[Shield General] nk33:
When you run limelight can limelight see the pc? If so what error do u get when u try and pair?
[Shield General] Phoenixfox:
2 Wireless Controllers

So I finally had the time to try again the shield (portable) with 2 wireless controllers.

If I press the button on the wireless controllers before pressing anything on the shield, both controllers work (the shield built-in controller is ignroed), but both controllers control Player 1 in games (eg. SFIV).

I have already confirmed that Multiple Controller support is checked in the options.

I'm using two standard MS Xbox 360 controllers connected to the wireless receiver.

I can play with both players if I use the built-in controller + 1 of the wireless controllers.

(TLDR: Both xbox wireless controllers are detected as the same controller)
[Shield General] cgutman:
Sounds like they didn't implement MediaCodec H264 decoders. Do you have the name of the device?

Are other video players affected by this too? Seems likely that Lenovo could fix it with updated firmware. I'm not doing anything special when rendering w.r.t gamma or anything that seems likely to cause this issue.

Strange. Can you get the Xbox controllers to show as separate controllers with Shield Hub or some controller test apps? Maybe the Shield isn't exposing separate input devices for the different controllers.
[Shield General] liveoles:
It's a tv box from a Chinese manufacturer, and it's called the LeTV C1S TV Box. Since its from china it doesn't have much documentations in english i presume.

So what can i do to fix this problem or is it a firmware issue that must be addressed by the manufacturer? Thanks a lot again
[Shield General] rishabh63:
How can we find out the decoding latency and support ?

can you list the latency and support for following chips ?

Mediatek Mt6732/ Mt6752 or any other mediatek based device

vs

Snapdragon 410

vs

Snapdragon 615

thanks
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
No I've still have not got it to work and no one has offered any help with it.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Is this happening when trying to start all games (directly from Limelight) or just some? Which ones have you tried? Also which GFE version are you running now?

I'm going to put together a wiki like Limelight-Embedded has for people to report these issues so they don't get lost in the posts.
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
It happens with everything, they're all being launched from limelight. I've tried Steam, League of Legends, and Just Cause 2. I'm on GFE version 2.2.2.0.
[Shield General] cgutman:
OK, this build should output enough debug info for me to see if there's anything I can do on my end.

Debug build: https://www.dropbox.com/s/n20hct9wlubjhdx/limelight-httpdebug.apk?dl=0

Please collect a logcat log from the device when trying to start streaming and post it here. Logcat instructions: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
Here is the logcat, I hope this is the correct info you wanted.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Nothing looks wrong in the Android logs. There are a bunch of logs and settings stored in C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation. Can you ZIP all the stuff in that folder and PM me a link? I'm thinking it's a GFE problem.
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
Here you go. Thank you for helping.
[Shield General] n00b865:
This app is the most amazingest app ever (pc games on handheld? Never thought it would be possible).

So currently im using a Linksys E2000 router, and I plan on using Limelight after I get a GTX 960 in 2 months time. The only issue im facing is currently I dont have an nvidia card, so I cant test the app and I have no idea how it will perform with my current router. I did some searching around, but couldn't find anything relevant.

Has anyone from over here had any experience with a Linksys E2000 and Limelight? Im just looking to stream at 720p60 from a distance of 5-10 feet, and am hoping that I'd be able to do so without any lag using my current router. Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated.
[Shield General] Tolax:
cgutman - just wanted to thank you for all your hard work on this. Running via an Amazon Fire TV - currently playing Dragon Age with a controller from the couch.

It's Pretty damm close to perfect. :) You should set up a donate button. If not for you then at least for a charity you like.

Thanks again

Tolax
[Shield General] jpeich:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION]:

Again thanks for this fantastic work. I have tested limelight through some devices and I have encountered perfection on Xiaomi MIPAD (perfect image, sound and 5ms lag). I also tried a tegra 4 zte funbox but results where not so brilliant and there was an issue with sound that sounds garbled. I just tested on bay trail minix z64 and whereas it has an incredible low lag (2ms!!!!) the sound sounds garbled as in the tegra 4 funbox. How could I trace this error with sound? Mipad tegra k1 sounds wonderfully

-thanks

Regards
[Shield General] cgutman:
See if this build fixes the garbled sound: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c8bhr54ptz29y9u/limelight-audiotest.apk?dl=0
[Shield General] jpeich:
Audio test

Thanks [MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION],

I have tested your build but I have not detected any difference with previous situation. I have tested a bit more and it seems that it´s a matter of bitrate. [MENTION=3621271]720p[/MENTION]60 the sound makes less hiccups. Whereas [MENTION=921577]1080P[/MENTION]60 on both devices video doesnt suffer , but audio does and glitches a lot. No message toast appears about A/V processing or Network loss.

Testing is done via ethernet on both devices.

I am attaching an audio sample from SSMB intro. Tested inside steam and outside steam.

Thanks for your interest,

Regards
[Shield General] ofb:
I have not looked to see what version of windows you are on but this is what I ran into a while back while trying to stream from Server 2012 R2. Here is my post on what I did to fix it, maybe it will work for you. Please let me know if this helps or not.
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
Thank you, I will try your guide. I'm on Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit just FYI.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Adding to that, a couple things show up in the logs you posted that seem like potential issues:

#9(E)[2015-02-18 19:51:16,887]{00000BB8}<TcpServiceSciThr> Failed to create SCI connection on event port:47987

This makes it seem like something is listening on TCP port 47987 already (or blocking Nvstreamsvc.exe from doing so). When I looked on my machine, I saw a connection from localhost to 47987 which indicates that it's probably used for communication between NVIDIA services on the machine. If it's used for FBC (Frame Buffer Capture), it might be related to the error below.

If you run "netstat -ano -p tcp" in cmd, it will dump all active and listening TCP connections on your machine and the processes that are using them. Search the output for 47987 and see if it's there when you're not trying to stream.

#1(E)[2015-02-18 19:50:17,072]{00000280}<FbcFrameProvider> Can't instantiate FBC: Another FBC instance is already capturing on this adapter.

This makes it sound like something else is using FBC. Trying opening GFE, clicking on the ShadowPlay icon in the corner, then make sure it's switched off.
[Shield General] jfp555:
Thank you for pointing that out. Doesn't the xiaomi mipad cost around as much as a nvidia shield tablet?

Anyways, I was wondering, what is the cheapest tablet (not phone) for gamestreaming from the Tier 1 devices that also has dual band wifi?

I was going to go for the Kobo Arc 10hd but just today realized that it only has a/b/g/n and no 'ac'.
[Shield General] LadyBrecky:
So turning off shadowplay fixed it, why is it broken with shadowplay on? It used to work just fine for me with it on.
[Shield General] jpeich:
I do think that cheapest Tablet for that with wifi ac is xiaomi mipad.then nvidia shield Tablet.
[Shield General] Kekskruemeltorte:
Is the shield controller supported if I play on the shield tablet ?

Don't want to spent 60€ for a non working controller :/

Thx & Greetings
[Shield General] Roland_:
Non English Layout Keyboard

Is it possible to get a correct keyboard layout on non-english keyboards (e.g. German)? My german layout keyboard is working perfect in Android but mapping under limelight is screwed.
[Shield General] nivanov:
In the latest PC release of limelight, it seems that I can't use both mouse buttons at the same time. For instance, while holding the right mouse button to aim, left mouse button should shoot, but instead it just leaves the aim mode. In other words, when one button is already pressed, pressing the second button cancels out both buttons.
[Shield General] dragonpiper:
Ipad Streaming

I tried using this on my Ipad 2. The router i have is a Wrt54g2. On wifi, no matter what settings i used the fps on the tablet seamed less than 30fps even though i was getting 100+ on pc. Also over internet it was like watching 5 second corrupted pictures. Is there anyway to improve performance ? Is the more optimization to be had in the software ? How much better would it perform on say an iphone 5 or 6 ?

Also i was also thinking about collocating my extra desktop or renting a gpu server. Do you know if rending a grid server would allow gamestream ?

Thanks for working on this app. It is amazing progress in the right direction for gaming :D
[Shield General] hunter99507:
I got a question and I was wondering if someone could help me. What i want to do is hook 2 ps4 controllers up to the shield using six axis and then use them with limelight. The problem is both of the controllers register as controller #1, not #1 and #2. Does anyone know how I could fix this? I do have android gamepad checked in six axis.

Thanks
[Shield General] demer8008:
Fire Tv

On Fire Tv Wired connection Limelight.

im getting about 55-60 ms. (720p 60fps) Is there anything to help that?

it feels like abit to slow to actually play comfortably
[Shield General] Tolax:
Review the first post - you can see that 50 ms is standard for the AFTV. Only thing you can do (without changing hardware) is make sure you are using GFE 2.1.3. Again the first post is your friend - review the post 'Video latency increases with GFE 2.1.4 and current Qualcomm devices'

Tolax
[Shield General] demer8008:
yes, i read that.

anyhow... got 4ms with force software decode. but only 5mbps bitrate.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Yes, the Shield controller will work with the Shield Tablet and Limelight.

Yeah, this is a common problem. I think it will require some changes to Limelight.

This is fixed in the latest code but a fixed build hasn't been released yet. It will be released soon.

Your WRT54G2 is only a 802.11g router. For better streaming, you should really have a dual-band 802.11n or 802.11ac router. There's no guarantees that it will solve your stuttering problem but it should help. If you've got your desktop connected over wireless, you should try connection over Ethernet instead.

Check that you're running GFE 2.2.2 or 2.2.3 on your PC. If you are, try this build and post a logcat log of you starting the stream and pressing buttons on both controllers.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tbvemxnpq7vpjx3/limelight-ds4test.apk?dl=0
[Shield General] ProfessorDazzle:
I can't figure out why I'm not getting sound. I've tried a few games (from the launcher and from Big Picture) and only Fez will output sound on my phone/tablet. I've done a decent amount of searching, so if this was addressed before I could not find it.
[Shield General] dragonpiper:
Problems fixed

So after modifying my router i was able to get it to work with pretty much no lag. I guess you don't need a 5Ghz router after all.

An Absolute must for the program to cleanly end the sessions so your not stuck in a situation where another device is stuck having a stream open even though it is closed. There should be a settable time that if the app is not active it closes the nividia session cleanly. This is a problem i have on ios. there is also the problem of it creating inf duplicates of computers.

Also is it possible to connect to nividia's grid servers which are free until April ? Is it as simple as using there ip ?
[Shield General] Kekskruemeltorte:
Hi,

shield controller with shield tablet and the newest limelight version has a slightly bigger analog stick deadzone, compared to the default shield hub streaming.

Is it possible to change this deadzone for limelight.

Thx & Greetings
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
But there is no option to split/double the image to we watch properly on gear vr or another vr headset

i mean this :

http://i.imgur.com/HzDJSRY.png

and there is anyway to add 1440p resolution ? since its the native resolution of Note 4

with this two, would be perfect :)
[Shield General] beeryhayan:
Hey guys im new here.. i started using gamestream a few weeks back and after countless hours of fidling here is what i found:

Ge force expirience 2.1.3 doesn't work with gtx 960 (doesnt recognoze the card) so with a galaxy s5 my latency is quite high

Games that are not recognized by geforce experience will not scale properly from 1080p (PC) to 720p (device)

when you encounter errors in streaming like crashing, not able to atop streaming, or when you accidentally press alt tab on your pc... chances are your device will not be able to detect your pc anymore... i have been able to remedy this by reinstalling ge force experience everytime.. does anyone know any faster way to correct this? Thanks!
[Shield General] dragonpiper:
Usually killing nvstreamer.exe works for me. Also i stopped trying to launch games first and just connect to windows with limelight and launch the game myself.
[Shield General] beeryhayan:
Does anybody know how to troubleshoot this? Any command i have to run specifically? Any test i need to make to identify the issue?
[Shield General] jpeich:
New nvidia Shield

Yesterday, Nvidia presented the X1 microconsole Shield.

This will be the definitive streaming device!!

Launching in May.
[Shield General] beeryhayan:
I watched the live gdc event.. i can't remember any mention of streaming from an nvidia pc..
[Shield General] nk33:
of course it does - thats the whole point. it will be like having a shield that you can take anywhere and stream your games to any tv/monitor..
[Shield General] beeryhayan:
It mentioned streaming from grid.. but not from one of you own pcs.. i may be wrong... but even if it did... isnt that the use of shield portable already?
[Shield General] jpeich:
The point of this (even if nvidia hub is not able to do streaming from PC, which sounds strange) is that Limelight will be able for sure and will take advance of the amazin Lo-latency HW of X1 chip. In combination with 1 gigabit ethernet, network latency will be the lowest ever got as it wont necessary use wifi.

What´s your opinion [MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION]? Are you excited about this device?

Regards

Gamespot confirms local streaming:

Like previous Shield devices, the new Shield allows you to stream games from your Nvidia GeForce-powered PC to your device or a TV.
[Shield General] Artasdmc:
Hey people, a question if I may.

Can I make LimeLight to run on my ZTE-Blade or Galaxy S1 plus?

They're both rooted and are running custom kernes + cm11 If i remember correctly.

The .apk installer just fails to install limelight.
[Shield General] nk33:
What is the error you get?
[Shield General] Artasdmc:
I got the latest version from Github, I installed it without any errors now but when I try to stream the app stops working. (Unfortunately, Limelight(Root) has stopped working). Everything on my pc initializes, gamestream window appears, game launches but the app just crashes.

It might be because my phone is old and may lack some features, I'm using ZTE-Blade (gen2) with custom CM 10 rom with android 4.1.2.
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
I think this is the problem too.

your phone is from 2010 dude :(
[Shield General] dragonpiper:
Grid Servers

Can this connect to grid servers ?
[Shield General] sysclan:
Add support for pen as the n8000

It can function as a cintiq with photoshop and other app .

Add a editor screen buttons to simulate inputs.

Be willing to pay for it .
[Shield General] D-Tronic:
This may be a stupid question but how did you get the pad to work with Limelight as a 360 controller? When I pair it via the Ipega Game Center app and test it all of the buttons and inputs work properly but none are recognized via Limelight. I can get Limelight to recognize it by using the "Bitgames IME" but the joysticks and other buttons don't work properly.

It seems like everyone else using this controller has no issues getting it to work.

EDIT: I'm using a Nexus 6 with stock firmware.
[Shield General] death_entry:
Try using tincore to map your Gamepad to whatever buttons you're after.. Does the game ur playing actually support, joy pads? Otherwise you'll need pinnacle mapper on ur computer too
[Shield General] NapalmDawn:
No.

---------- Post added at 03:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

" It streams games over the company's "Netflix for gaming" platform known as GRID; it streams games from your local PC; it powers Twitch streaming at the same time of said streamed content; heck, it powers games like Crysis 3 locally, running on Android."

http://www.engadget.com/2015/03/03/nvidia-shield-2015-hands-on/
[Shield General] tudobem:
Using mouse with Limelight

Great program all...quick question though....

The games I mainly play (mmos) use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse paired with the shield tablet. When I try to play these steam mmos thru limelight, I get two mouse pointers and the only way i can control the game mouse pointer is to hold the left mouse button down and drag the game pointer around. Any ideas why this is occurring and how I can correct this issue? Thanks.
[Shield General] PhilTargaryen:
Black Screen when streaming from Windows 8 PC to Android Fix

This scenario was using a Verizon LG G3 and a custom Windows 8.1 machine.

I hope this helps someone. I was pulling my hair out when I couldn't stream from my windows 8 PC remotely. I would try it at home and it would work both on my local network, and on my cell phones data network. I assumed all would be well connecting remotely. Then I would be at work during lunch and I would get nothing but a black screen after a successful RTSP handshake.

It was the Windows 8 Metro screen. If you leave the windows 8 metro screen up and try to stream, your remote device gets nothing but a black screen. Leave your home pc on the desktop and this issue will stop.
[Shield General] nk33:
install classic shell and it gives you a windows 7 start menu and disables metro screen on startup. The option to use it is still there but you only use it when you want it. Job done
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
Is there anything we can do reduce Hardware decoding latency ?

custom kernel, CPU/GPU overclock, change from Dalvik to ART ? upgrade to lollipop, anything ?

By the way, im getting 22 - 26 ms at 1080p60 on Note 4 (kitkat)
[Shield General] Splendor Bean:
problem with windows 10 and new driver of nvidia

i have used limelight for a time, with my LTE2 phone, windows 7 pro.

and it had been stable at about 55ms (720p60)

but i've just update my windows to the newest version : windows 10, and along with it is the newest driver of nvidia (349.65 - made for windows 10)

all of my pc game's performance are better now, running more stable with at least 5-10fps higher.

but my limelight, unfortunately, got worse ...

the video latency is about 80-90ms now, even i have configured it to the lowest settings : 720p30, 1mb bitrates !

i have tried to re-install both gfe and limelight, restart the devices, even factory reset my phone and tried some earlier version of limelight. but it didn't work.

can anyone help me ...
[Shield General] jpeich:
I am afraid that there is a limit on Qualcomm devices because of the HW decoding process and how GFE encodes nowadays. Only tegra devices can meet the below 10ms barrier.

Regards
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
actually, my note is the N910C, so it uses exynos chipset :D
[Shield General] dingochutney:
My Nexus 10 is Exynos too, that explains why it's much faster at decoding than my Fire TV (12ms vs 50ms).

Edit: Anyone know if any of the upcoming Android TV boxes are Exynos/Tegra? Just checked and the Razer Forge is a Snapdragon :( I know the Shield console is a Tegra X1 but that thing will be about £200, not really appealing.