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[Shield General] demer8008:
is there no way to stream only the game? ie keep your controller connected to the pc and just move the video/audio?
[Shield General] insistents:
Is there a way to get limelight working with a usb connected to the computer instead of wifi? I cant manage to.
[Shield General] nk33:
Yes, you have to search the forum for the solution to this. I think you have to change one of the files. I definitely remember the solution being posted. Problem with this forum as usual is that everything is in one post.

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What do you even mean?
[Shield General] insistents:
Im using my nexus 5 with colorcross goggle to get basic virtual reality, im using limelight to stream elite dangerous with side by side 3D tuned ON with 1920x2160 and an headtracking apps, its pretty demanding and i was wondering if i could use USB for video stream to get max performance, theres already an app called trinus gyre that let me stream video over usb, but still even limelight is faster on WIFI.
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
you mean USB tethering via limelight ?

you can try follow the Step 7 of this tutorial : http://cmoar.com/streaming-nvidia-limelight.html
[Shield General] insistents:
I already tried that, but doesnt work, limelight wont detect pc.
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
I believe its because limelight requires an ip address. USB Tethering dont generate one.

Have you tried with a 5GHZ network ?

Keep in mind the most of the lag comes from hardware video decoding.
[Shield General] mrgoochio:
Finally got my nexus 6 and coming back to limelight. Sorry if this is a recent re-post, but is it still better to use an older version of GFE for better latency? Just downloaded limelight for rooted devices off the play store. Should I roll back my GFE on my computer? Currently on the most updated 2.2.2
[Shield General] insistents:
I also tried 5ghz but its the same, and if i move a few meter away from router with 5ghz i literaly loose the connection.

But how can i link my ip adress to limelight for usb?

I also started getting frequent stuttering sine i upgrade to custom android 5.1, anyone else noticed it?
[Shield General] mrgoochio:
Well I didn't downgrade my GFE.. running 2.2.2 and it seems like my latency is <15ms on 720p/60fps so that's quite good considering I'm connecting via LTE. Can't see that much of a difference running 1080p/60fps that would warrant the slowdown so I'm pretty damn happy.

On another note, does anybody know a way to bring up a virtual keyboard while using limelight? Would be nice if I could bring up the android google keyboard when typing in web addresses on my desktop or using it to talk to other people in online games. (currently using a ps4 controller for my inputs)

EDIT: didn't realize you can use 3 finger press to bring up keyboard. Now the problem is that limelight doesn't detect keyboard inputs on google's keyboard. What keyboard can I install that works?

EDIT: Found a bug thats minimal but quite annoying.. When you 3 finger press to bring up keyboard selection, the black NAV bar will not hide itself again unless you back out of your limelight application and resume it, thus blocking a portion of the game screen every time you swap keyboards. IMPORTANT if you need to swap from PS4 controller to keyboard (to type a message) and back to PS4 controller to continue gaming. Probably not too difficult of a fix, but important IMO!
[Shield General] jfp555:
Short review of experiences with Kobo Arc 10hd

Hey guys,

Finally got my Kobo Arc 10hd and got Limelight (rooted version) up and running with it.

Some feedback on the tablet:

http://www.amazon.com/Kobo-Arc-10HD-16-Tablet/dp/B00H8V0K36

At this point, it is the cheapest Tegra 4 device with a good quality and large screen (2560 x 1600 res, 10 inch size), has 2x2 MIMO dual band wifi (just like shield tablet) and has micro HDMI out as well. Which makes this an amazing larger sized version of the shield tablet, which was exactly what i was looking for.

The tablet was supposed to be a premium e-reader that was launched at $400 but flopped and now is available brand new for $180.

The device has its issues (no custom roms, and has been discontinued by kobo so no further updates; stuck at android 4.2 i believe)

Besides that, it does have a nice premium feel to it. The alleged 'color tint' from numerous reviews is a actually setting implemented by kobo to reduce eyestrain while reading for hours and in low light. it can be normalized in 2 taps by changing an option. (display > toggle between sRGB or native)

Battery life is not very impressive. Has tegra 4 so it is better to keep an eye on thermals as well.

Streaming review:

Beautiful experience minus the awkward limelight quirks such as exiting and starting new games. I would strongly recommend simply adding the mstsc.exe services to limelight and running everything through desktop screen mode.

Checked Company of Heroes 2 by attaching a USB mouse and keyboard connected to USB hub which connected to an OTG cable.

Assassins creed black flag also plays great (with x360 wired controller attached through usb OTG)

However, one important issue, whilst streaming over wifi (dual band router, netgear r6300v2, its nvidia approved), I get

avg client side latency of 20 ms

hardware decoder 17 ms

with 1080p/60fps selected

Arent these high for a tegra 4 device? I'm genuinely puzzled why this is happening. Any suggestions?

Also, I would like to have mouse/keyboard AND controller attached to this tablet simultaneously. what are my options? I have a wired usb controller for the xbox 360 at this point and a wired mouse and keyboard.

Pc specs:

i7 4790

16gb ram

msi gaming 970

win 8.1

Thank you devs and everyone else on this thread. I fount this a very friendly and cooperative community.
[Shield General] jpeich:
Regarding the figures of HW decoding lag of the Kobo it is completely aligned with my experience with TEGRA 4. My ZTE funbox is also 17ms.
[Shield General] RandomRanger:
Android Studio Build Failed

This post was originally made to ask why I was getting the error: ndk-build command failed. However I discovered the issue was because I was using Android Studio and did not have NDK installed. Sorry about that
[Shield General] cgutman:
17 ms is just over 1 frame. It's completely typical even for the best devices. Because of VSync and triple buffering from Project Butter, that extra frame of latency is there regardless of how fast the decoder is. I'm trying to figure a way around it.
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
sys/module/DC/parameters/no_vsync

Change from 0 to 1.

This disables VSync

Cameron, can you add 2k and 4k resolutions to the app ?

i added 2k myself, since my phone is an Note 4, but everytime you update i have to change it on Android studio :D

[IMG="2k"]http://i.imgur.com/CgycKno.png[/IMG]
[Shield General] jpeich:
That would be incredible! 4k! But has the encoder from GFE the ability to encode at such a high rate?

Does the V-SYNC help on the lag issue?

Thanks
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
I don't see why not.

Apparently, this project butter function delays the screen composition to avoid screen tearing but at cost of higher latency :(
[Shield General] jpeich:
I mean, we have control over the client app (limelight) but we don´t have complete control of server part (GFE) even although we can send some parameters: fps and resolution. That is why I think 1440p and 4k depends on GFE server only...
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
But there is no such settings on GFE. The client is who decide the resolution/fps.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Check out my wip_resolution_preferences branch. The reason I never merged it is because last time I tried it, GFE seemed to never set a resolution larger than the resolution of the physical screen. You'd get a 1440p stream, but it would just be scaled up 1080p if you've got a 1080p panel. It's very confusing behavior and I could never verify that GFE did things correctly.
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
What you mean by physical screen, the server or client screen ?

Cause i have a note 4, his native resolution is 2560x1440.

if you mean the pc monitor screen, we can easily hack through regedit.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Good News about Qualcomm Decoder Latency

I found by luck that the SDP attributes on the new GFE beta 2.4.0.9 allow the client to adjust video slicing parameters. I've released a new build that enables slicing on GFE 2.4 to reduce latency of Qualcomm devices (hopefully back to 2.1.3 levels). It will also improve the latency on the Fire TV as it's also a Qualcomm device.

The build is rolling out on Play Store, waiting for review on Amazon store, and up on GitHub now.

Remember, you MUST have GFE beta updates turned on and be running GFE 2.4.0.9 or higher with Limelight v3.1.4.

You can enable beta updates for GFE on the Preferences tab in the General pane.
[Shield General] mrgoochio:
Streaming over LTE with my nexus 6 on Verizon:

1080p/60fps

17ms hardware decoding latency. If I go to 720p/60fps or 1080p/30fps its even smoother :)
[Shield General] klauss_z:
I have connection problems. I use Java client for Mac OS X, it successfully pairs with my Geforce PC. But when I press Start Stream, I get a message "Geforce Experience 2.1.1 is required", though I have the newest version of Geforce Experience installed, 2.2.2.0. Please help :(

UPDATE: problem solved, just forgot to turn off Windows firewall at my host PC.
[Shield General] razingstorm:
Ever since updating to Limelight's latest version on the Play Store, I cannot launch any game stream. I receive GFE error 521, and nothing happens on the host PC (you can see the streamer service daemons running though). My GEForce Experience version is 2.2.2. Updating to the 2.4.0.9 beta did not solve this, so I rolled back to 2.2.2. Driver is the Game Ready 347.88. This really sucks, I use this a lot...guess I better stop auto-updating Limelight.
[Shield General] cgutman:
Do you know which version you were running before it updated? I haven't made any changes that are likely to cause that error recently.

You can try older versions from the GitHub page. I'd recommend trying v3.1.2 then v3.1.3 to see if either works. https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-android/releases
[Shield General] klauss_z:
Remote gamestream to desktop

Is there any way to stream with Limelight to a remote Windows/Mac computer? Like on android devices? I found it can be done with VPN L2TP, but this is way too complicated.
[Shield General] GnatGoSplat:
Yes, see the "PC port binaries" link on the OP.
[Shield General] klauss_z:
Yes, I downloaded Windows client and paired to Geforce Experience through the same network. But when I change network I can't connect again, the client app doesn't remember the host. What should I do?
[Shield General] ice2kewl:
General tips...

Hey guys, I've been trawling this thread looking for bits of info I can use to generally make my experience better. Currently I see 40-47ms hardware latency at 1080p60 compression. I'm positioned about 2/3 meters away from my router. I'm trying to reduce that as I use limelight for wireless VR gaming via the Trinus Gyre app.

I have a Note 3. I've just ordered an Asus RT-AC66U router to replace my current ISP provided router. I expect this to improve latency times (maybe not only due to the faster wireless speed but also due to the PC being hooked to a gigabit ethernet port?). Would this also resolve the 1 second stutter that I get every now and then? Or is that due to a Note 3 hardware limitation? Guess I'll find out truly when I receive and try the new router.

Going forward, which 5/5.5 inch smartphone would provide even less latency? Which processor should provide the best possible experience? Anyone tried the new Galaxy S6?

Thanks!

PS. Many thanks to the limelight devs for continued support.
[Shield General] cgutman:
If your Note 3 is Qualcomm-based, make sure you've upgraded to GFE 2.4.x. Nvidia just released GFE 2.4.1 to all non-beta users today. Beta 2.4.0.9 will also work.
[Shield General] razingstorm:
Fixed my streaming problem after reloading the PC for another reason. Limelight was fine, apologies for the false alarm...poor timing of other issues apparently.
[Shield General] packie11:
Android client - keep aspect ratio

Hi, I'm using Limelight Android client to stream old game. It works almost perfect, the only problem is with resolution and scaling. Game works in 640x480, and tablet scales it to stretched full-screen (17:10 I believe). Is it possible for Android client to scale stream while keeping aspect ratio? If it can't be configured, I don't mind changing something in client's code if it's something easy.
[Shield General] mrgoochio:
For some reason, running Rust (steam game) on my computer completely locks out any inputs in limelight. Can't use touchscreen for mouse or my PS4 controller to control anything. Any ideas guys?
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
you can use this : https://github.com/6f70/limelight-android/commit/6b6774cf0490ecfa5f1ee97957dd9793f137196e
[Shield General] gabewolf:
GFE 2.4 update

I have not updated to GFE 2.4, so I cannot confirm this myself. But, it seems to me, with the new requirement for an nvidia account, that this would break limelight streaming. Can anyone else confirm?
[Shield General] cgutman:
Despite Nvidia's claims, you can still use PIN-based pairing on GFE 2.4.1 so Limelight works fine. Even Shield Hub still supports it, although it's fairly well hidden.
[Shield General] eliott94260:
on screen controls update

any news about on screen control update? the last version by hopel33s is difficult to push trigger , i hope a limelight release with movable on screen buttons !:)
[Shield General] the_mentor:
Now that google opened chromeos apps for everyone is there a chance to see limelight for chromeos?

http://www.chromestory.com/2015/03/...-developers-everyone-can-port-their-apps-now/
[Shield General] packie11:
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!

By the way, is it possible to do right mouse button click on touch controls? Or use android screen keyboard for input?
[Shield General] Zacharybinx34:
Everything works great, except I see a black mouse cursor that overlaps the white cursor behind it. It's weird, and I think it's not hiding the android cursor.

Any clues?
[Shield General] OpenBlade:
well, for that I do not have the answer :(
[Shield General] cgutman:
A 3 finger tap should bring up the keyboard. There's a known bug where the key presses aren't recognized for some users. A 2 finger tap acts like right click.

You have to use the rooted version, Limelight for Rooted Devices. Apps are unable to fully capture mouse input without root.
[Shield General] Stickman89:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] - Question and observation. Is the Limelight PC version scheduled for an update anytime soon? Curious is all, I'd like to follow it's progress. I've noticed continuous git-hub commits in-between the last, published.

At present streams seem to be particularly resource demanding (as outlined), is there anything different 'Steam streaming' is doing? Since it seems to alleviate the need for a 'higher perf CPU' aside other resources in order to stream comfortably, whilst still retaining play-ability.

Don't mean any controversy by mentioning the above, more hoping to improve and or encourage investigation on other people's implementations to aid development.
[Shield General] tallnerd1985:
Cgutman - can you take a look at this on the canary channel of Chrome browser with ARC Welder? I loaded the apk in it and the app launched successfully and was able to pair to my PC but the game list didn't load
[Shield General] cgutman:
Limelight PC has had some serious work done on it recently, but I don't think it's stable enough for release yet. I'll see if I can get something out this weekend.

The reason Steam uses less CPU is because using hardware accelerated decoding and a faster rendering method. Limelight isn't currently using hardware decoding on PCs because it requires much more platform-specific code. I honestly haven't invested much time into making it better because I see Steam's streaming as a successor to Limelight for streaming to PCs. Right now there's a resource issue since I'm the only one maintaining Limelight Android, PC, and both common libraries. I'm putting the most time into the Android client and the Java common library (for limelight-embedded) since those have the most users by a large margin.

There's talk of a Google Summer of Code project to add GameStream support to Kodi using limelight-common-c. If that is successful, Kodi will probably be the preferred client for PCs and Limelight-PC will be discontinued.

There was a division by zero bug in the app list code because ARC runs in such a low DPI setting.

Here's a build that should run:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k13lofwf4368fyj/limelight-arc.apk?dl=0

Caveats:

1. Hardware decoding does work, but it can be incredibly high latency (> 150 ms). On Windows, it's high latency at all settings. On Mac and Chrome OS, it's playable on 720p30 and 1080p30. I haven't tested Linux but it will probably perform like Mac and Chrome OS.

2. No gamepad support. I filed a bug on Chromium for this.

3. Mouse has similar issues as non-root Limelight Android (2 cursors, hitting edges of screen)

All these amount to it not being really usable in ARC right now, but you're free to play with it if you want. I was pretty stoked when I ran it on a friend's 2012 Exynos 5-based Samsung Chromebook and streamed 720p30 very well. There's potential but ARC isn't really ready yet. When gamepad is supported, it might be worth publishing.
[Shield General] Haints:
Thanks for the awesome work on this! Full PC games in 3D on my phone ... never thought I'd see the day.

Question: is it possible to listen to audio through my PC rather than my phone?
[Shield General] wiresquire:
Unable to pair on Android

New user that's just installed the latest Android Limelight for rooted devices from Google Play and latest Nvidia GFE 2.4.1.21 on Win81 64 bit with all drivers/OS up to date. I've checked all the pre-reqs and everything is OK.

When I load up limelight with GFE on, the android device in the app lights up with a little green light. When I touch it, I am asked to enter a PIN on the PC. But no prompt box comes up on the PC. And then it says "Timed out" in the android app :(

I've tried this while logged into my nvidia account in GFE and also when logged out.

I've tried/checked :

*Yes i'm on the same network

*tried with windows firewall off and on

*Local and local+internet streaming

*rebooted phone & pc multiple times

*http://127.0.0.1:47989/serverinfo?uniqueid=1234 outputs some xml. I only paid attention to the 200/OK

*https://127.0.0.1:47984/serverinfo?uniqueid=1234 outputs a 404 file not found message (not in xml).

How can I get this paired?
[Shield General] eliott94260:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] - Question about the next update, : are you work about on screen controls implentation ? it will be great if limelight have this feature like kinoconsole or kainy, i hope you include this on the next releases and i hope on screen buttons will be movable :)

your app is awesome, less latency great video quality ,working great over 4g : a pc on the go :)
[Shield General] nmarrufo:
Yes, there is a setting in the app to "Play audio on PC"

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I am having the same problem. I am running Windows 10 Tech preview build 10049 and my nexus 6 recognizes the pc and starts pairing process says to enter pin but then pc shows nothing. When I tried Limelight in the past I never had this problem. Any ideas? Same build of GFE as well.
[Shield General] tallnerd1985:
[MENTION=2844433]cgutman[/MENTION] with ARC, is the high latency due to the display rendering or network bridging in the QEMU environment?
[Shield General] Hobbes2099:
I've had the mentioned problem for the past few months.

What I have noticed, is that the GFE tray icon disappears after I restart my PC. When the tray icon stops appearing, coincides when the PIN overlay stops appearing as well.

I have two accounts on my PC. Tray icon stops appearing when I switch account as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling GFE has worked for me in the past.

I thinks it's completely GFE related, and not originated by Limelight.
[Shield General] Phoenix227:
What kind of streaming performance could I expect on say the new cherry trail atom powered Surface 3 (non pro)?

Based on what I've read in this thread it sounds like a lost cause. Right?
[Shield General] wiresquire:
Brilliant! It seems to be the lack of the tray icon that causes the problem.

You can re-enable it by going into the Nvidia Control Panel and from the menu select Desktop/Show Notification Tray Icon.

Once the tray icon was there, I didn't need to log in to GEFOrce at all. I could connect from Limelight, the PIN prompt showed up and everything seems to be running.

Thanks for the tip! :D
[Shield General] Hobbes2099:
Quick question; I've updated GFE to 2.4.1.21. As stated previously in this thread, I can't find the UI setting to set pairing through PIN.

Could someone please provide step by step instructions on how to get the PIN to pair new devices?

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I'm glad I could be of help.

Now I need yours.

I'm looking for the setting you mention, but I can't find a way to toggle on (or off) the Tray Icon.

Could you help me find the setting?
[Shield General] Hobbes2099:
OK, last post for tonight. Seems option was right in front of me. Now my problem persists.

I've installed the non-root Limelight on my Z3TC. When the app tries to pair with GFE 2.4.1.21 on my PC, I get a "pair failed" toast on my tablet almost immediately.

Even with the Tray Icon activated again, I'm not getting the PIN pop up.

Any recommendations?
[Shield General] dingochutney:
Whenever I get this issue I usually uninstall/reinstall GFE (clean install). Worth a pop!
[Shield General] Hobbes2099:
Things are getting frustrating...

I've uninstalled and reinstalled v2.4.1.21 and I still can't pair new devices...

The tablet is not getting instant pairing failures, but the PIN pop up won't appear on my PC.
[Shield General] kill_dano:
Hey I just wanted to report my issues:

#1 - Limelight working solid as f--k.

#2- My latency has taken a nose dive. -- IDK who to thank for this but it's like 7-15ms depending on my resolution. It used to be like in the 30s.

#3- Also there used to be an intermittent stutter problem that happened every like 60 seconds or so-- I'd have mad frame skips for 2-3 seconds and then smooth again. That SH^%'s gone!

TMO GS5 on a touchjiz loli rom

Only BS I still deal with is my Moga's deadzone which plenty of other apps also have (but oddly plenty also don't, like mupen64) But I'm getting a MAdcatz lynx 9 (or a lynx 3 idk if I care about $$)
[Shield General] the absolute tester:
i dont know how it work

hello i have download limelight for pc and i jailbroke my ipad with the latest ios 8.0 with appsync and install limelight on ipad too lates 0.9.0 ipa so when i open in my pc the limelight and after i open on ipad too i dont know what i must to do the limelight on pc appear only with option for resolution etc and 2 buttons host and pair how then can i pair them ?
[Shield General] Akis.Jeff:
I think i know the problem for pairing~

As below shows that now they pair using nvidia account~ so i think thats the problem we cannot pair~

i will try see the 2.4 beta see if its work or not~ ~

Question: can someone provide me the gfe 2.4beta? can't found it hahaha

GeForce Experience 2.4.1 Release Highlights

GeForce Experience now keeps itself always up to date

New way to pair your PC and SHIELD using NVIDIA accounts

Remote GameStream now works without manual router configuration

Bug fixes
[Shield General] Cyberwizard:
Hello!

Had no problem using Limelight for one year now and suddenly thanks to the new Log-in crap by NVIDIA I cannot stream online, over the network is perfectly fine, but when going online it stopped working, PCs are not visible.

Is this only happening to me?

Using beta app on android with latest GeForce exp.