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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
WEEEELL me and this other guy(not gonna name him just in case) are working on this and WERE VERY CLOSE.

May take a few days since he hit a brickwall. BUT WERE CLOSE. ;)

KEEP IN MIND THO. ME AND HIM CANT SHARE HOW IT'S DONE. You can probably guess why.

EDIT: If your on verizon and need your MSL Code, tell them to find it through your MEID. DONT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER FROM SPRINT. I obtained it through Sprint Chat.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] speedfreak228:
can you at least post a pic of the phone with it working on the verizon network?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
Dude I said we're close lol.

At least believe we are close. The whole process needs to be done before I can even bother to try.

Were doing research ATM. Researching info that is difficult to find if you know what I mean. ;)

If anyone know anything a PM is HIGHLY appriciated.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Can't wait to hear what the latest is. As soon as Verizon makes the band 4 more available, we should be on to something.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
Any Updates on your progress?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
No :(

I'm gonna work on it tomorrow.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johmama:
I've been following this thread for quite some time and this is relevant to my interests so I just have to ask: If you should actually get this to work, are you going to share with us how? You've been pretty tight-lipped about how you're going about it so far. Right here, for instance:

I'm simply asking. I would hate to continue following this thread, someone actually achieve the goal of the thread, then that person just say "Got it to work! But I can't say how, sorry. Sucks to be you guys, I suppose. Welp, cya later."
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
No I'm pretty sure u'd all pm me and ask.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markdapimp:
Nexus 5 will work on Verizon on some markets because it has the one LTE band verizon has in some markets but its useless because its data only calls and MMS run through the legacy 1x network
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
But sprint and Verizon use the same bands. It's a matter of changing a few things to allow to be allowed on Verizon's network.

In theory call, text, data and anything else should work.

If anyone wants to help me and think they can be helpful then please PM me.

---------- Post added at 11:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 AM ----------

It detects it so it must work.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
I ordered a T-Mobile Sim Card online. If that gets here before I accomplish this, then I'll be giving up soon.

I am working on it right now and I MIGHT get this new idea to work. But I doubt it. We'll see.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigshotrob22:
Just get the G2 and problem solved. IMHO the g2 blows the n5 out of the water. Plus you won't have any issues activating on Verizon ;). I sold my N5 and haven't looked back. Good Luck guys.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
Not interested in paying full price for a G2 or get a contract and lose my unlimited.

So no.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m52 power!:
Nice try.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigshotrob22:
G2's are just as cheap as the N5's now. Look at swappa. Sell the N5 and buy a G2. Im just saying. It would be nice to get this on VZW but how long you think that would be? even if it is possible.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weirddan455:
I actually did try this just to see if it worked but no go. I had Verizon on my old Galaxy Nexus and simply tried moving the SIM card to my Nexus 5. I remember it was able to pick up my phone number in Settings > About Phone > Status so it could obviously read the SIM but it wouldn't give me any service. No bars, no signal, no data, no voice, nothing. Wasn't really expecting it to work but just thought I'd share my experience for those interested. I just ported my Verizon number over to Straight Talk (which I'm now using on my Nexus 5) so I won't be able to try this again seeing as how my service is disconnected on my Verizon Galaxy Nexus.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
Anything?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
Trying hard. I'm very close to giving up. T-Mo Sim Card will be here any day now. Should've been here 4 days ago.

If you know anyone who can help please tell them to PM me. I have different ideas and possible solutions.

One being the NVM Folder being restricted using QPST. I think I can un restrict it with QXDM. But I'm sure I can't. In the NVM folder lies the $SYS.ESN.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xVehemencityx:
I'm definitely following this post, even though I'm definitely switching to t-mobile. I'm still interested to see if you get it working.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
I actually have a T-Mobile sim card. I'm gonna try one more time this weekend but I'm sure I won't get it working.

If anyone really wants this, your assistance would be great. Otherwise I'm pretty much done. After this weekend is over.

Sent from my Ñ£×Ú$ 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johmama:
How can I help? I don't have a Verizon SIM but might be willing to buy one for the sake of testing (can you even do that with them? I think they only give them out during activation...), I'm fairly knowledgeable with the phone, not so strong on radio edits, but want to get this working just because. Anything I can do?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boogila2:
Id try to help, I have a verizon sim but thats about it. I'm pretty good with this sort of stuff. What could I do to help
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] voodoodaddy:
Looks like this idea is pretty well dead. Sad, I was hoping someone could figure it out.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLP7:
I had a HTC Rezound with Verizon until my N5 arrived today... I cut my SIM down to the right size and put it in my N5 and it couldn't find a network or connect.

HOWEVER... I switched to 2G then back to LTE and it immediately connected to Verizon and the data works perfectly. I can't make calls or send SMS (I assume because CDMA isn't working) but the LTE connection is great, so definitely give that a go if you're stuck on VZW at the moment.

I'm going to switch to T-Mo as soon as I can get on that $30/mo for unlimited data and texting deal, but the current situation is very workable with Google Voice.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Not to accuse you or anything, but could you upload a picture (not a screenshot...an actual photograph) of About Phone > Status screen? Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheAtheistOtaku:
pics or it didnt happen
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Yup. This is gonna be good.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLP7:
I created the account to reply to this thread, so I can't post external URLs yet, but if you go to the imgur anxMS1Y.png (or a mod wants to edit my post to add the link?) that's a screenshot I just took.

As you can see, it says there's no phone service because calls can't be made, but I uploaded the image and am posting this on the phone with wifi turned off, so data definitely works - even on the dodgy reception I get at my friend's house.

Edit: I forgot to mention, the phone arrived this afternoon and I immediately put CM11 on it, so that may affect it, but I don't really want to flash back to stock just to test when everything works as is...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Link: http://i.imgur.com/anxMS1Y.png

Nice! I have no way of trying what you did to see if it works or not, but hopefully this will help some people.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLP7:
Thanks for that.

Please let me know if you want me to test anything or post any different screenshots... if it's of any use, I had the latest stock firmware, I flashed TWRP, then the latest CM11 nightly with gapps, and accidentally discovered the network switching thing when I switched to 2G in Mobile Networks to see if I could find Verizon when 4G didn't work. Obviously that had no effect, so I switched back to 4G and notifications immediately started flooding in!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Well you would have to ask the people that have been working on this for months. :p

I don't even have a Verizon sim card to test it with. I'm thinking it's a CM11 thing, but again, I could be wrong.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheAtheistOtaku:
Nice, this leads me to believe that verizon is in the process of allowing nexus 5s on their network. Either that or this is a fluke and verizon customers are still screwed when it comes to nexus phones. hopefully its the former
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLP7:
I'd be very surprised if that were the case, but this is a SIM card (and contract) that I've been on for over 2 years, so it's unlikely to be anything specific to my account.

The only unusual thing that I can link this to is the CM11 thing, but I honestly have no idea. I've been lurking on XDA for years and an Android user back to the G2 (I got my N1 on launch day!) but only just joined today because it was so weird that I got it working by accident within hours of the phone arriving when so many people have been trying for months :\

Sidenote: Once or twice when I've left wifi, the LTE hasn't automatically reconnected, but switching to 2G and back seems to work every time.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dragn4rce:
If you want sms and call pm me. I might make it work by making some changes on CDMA workshop. Might not work but who knows.

Sent from my Ñ£×Ú$ 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomLP7:
I flashed back to stock (and rooted) to test, and it definitely no longer works. I tried forcing the phone into CDMA using phone tools, and it switches straight back to GSM, so there definitely appears to be something about CM11 (RIL?) that is more flexible than the stock ROM, which I assume has been designed to prevent connecting to Verizon.

It's possible that different areas have different results depending on whether you can connect to AWS or something, but all I know is what works here in Houston. I didn't test as thoroughly with the phone tools on CM11, so I'll flash back soon (so I'll at least have LTE) and then see if I can enable CDMA and let you know the results.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolguy71261:
hmm lets see if anyone can get this working.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Still no
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolguy71261:
i know it can be done, the international version has band 13.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
If you know it can be done, how come no one in the world has managed to do it?

Can't be done!

Edit > No Nexus 5 have band 13
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolguy71261:
http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/gobi/rf-solutions/rf-transceivers

The nexus 5 has that chip, so does the g2 so i don't see why a radio flash wouldn't work provided that it is modified.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Actually we have the WRT1605L not the WRT1625L but that's not relevant anyway. The bands are applied at the factory and as yet there is no way to change them with software. Whether the bands are hardware configured or firmware, we don't know. Qualcomm hasn't published documentation and no one has managed to work it out or change any bands.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meballard:
Read through the thread, that has already been tried, along with a lot of other things.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolguy71261:
I know the bands are disabled couldn't there be a way to enable the bands?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meballard:
As I said, read through the thread first. There's is a LOT of information in this thread that you clearly haven't read yet.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johio360:
Oh my god this thread is one big loop of ....oh no cant be done....then people say sure it can it has access to band 13.......lets go guys lets get some new ideas goin on.....i read the first 28 pages then just skipped to the last page cuz its all the same stuff
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
...and it still is. Your post changes nothing!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raibyn:
Verizon won't even let the phone on their network at all from what I understand. The IMEI has to be in their database. Otherwise, no dice.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
Is it possible to replace the IMEI number in the Nexus 5 with a phone on Verizon?

Plus who knows when a teardown of the phone is done and like the Nexus 4, where they found Band 4 AWS LTE, they find band 13 on the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeepdroid31:
guess i should have checked here before i ordered one seeing as how im on verizon. Ohh well good thing im not on contract no more.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
that certainly would be interesting. i think with adb/fastboot you can write the imei number. maybe i can just take it from one of my old verizon phones.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Interesting...I never thought of this..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
Is it possible with adb?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
edit: apparently changing IMEI numbers is illegal and we're not supposed to be talking about it here, so i'm deleting this post.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GreenMunky:
Hoping against hope... I'm stuck with VZW until next October.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] progrockguy:
I don't understand Verizon "power" users.

You guys are in an abusive relationship. Everyone is telling you to leave the bastard, but you just keep taking it in all orifices and making excuses about how the speed is sooo good. "Maybe next year we'll get the Nexus and faster updates, who knows. Maybe they'll add my N5 MEID for being such a loyal customer."

You really think Verizon is going to change its ways for YOU? Don't be delusional. Things are not going to get better. We know about the bruises you've been hiding. Next it'll be a broken bone. "Oh, I slipped on the stairs," you might say, but we'll know the truth. We all know the eventual outcome :/ So get out now while you still have your life.

EDIT: Aww no thanks for the attempt at being witty? Anyway, my point is that if you're on Verizon, you can't complain about locked bootloaders and not having the Nexus. That's Verizon Policy 101.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
While I would jump ship to T-mobile, I have a good monthly price on Verizon and I have unlimited data. Also I tend to travel and Verizon gives me the best coverage.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
that would be true if verizon didn't have such a great network.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] equake:
I thought nexus 7 lte users were able to activate the device provided the use a sim already active.

My 2 cents
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
https://twitter.com/autoprime4G/status/396024590222495744

If only band 4 covered as much as band 13, I'm still hesitant to try it though
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCreazy:
BTW changing your IMEI is highly illegal and is a felony. Plus, you aren't supposed to talk about it here.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
oh lol whoops.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
I wasn't aware, never mind, apologies all around
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
edit
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MWisBest:
I also thought it was illegal for Verizon to put any restrictions on access to their LTE band 13 due to the terms of them buying that spectrum, but they've somewhat gotten away with it on the Nexus 7. Sometimes breaking the law is justified, and it's not like the FCC is going to come knocking on your door. I myself use WiFi channels 12 and 13 in the USA, which is technically legal when the transmit power isn't too high (mine is OK), but no WiFi device I know of allows setting channels 12 and 13 without changing the regulatory domain, which is illegal, however it's certainly justified. And before anybody points out to me that channels 1, 6, and 11 are the standard non-overlapping channels that should be used, nobody in the range of my signal is using channel 11 and I'm using a 40MHz channel width so if I wasn't on channel 13 it would end up overlapping more with channel 6.

Sorry, tad off-topic, but still. Personally, I can't just jump ship from Verizon and switch to anybody else, Verizon has the best coverage in my area and I'm on my dad's plan (I do contribute towards the bill though, but not as much as it would be if I had my own plan), and my dad is a semi-truck driver so he's all around the country and nobody has the coverage Verizon has that's necessary for his job. Not to mention that Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile have basically no coverage where I live, and there's more than 10,000 people where I live, so I find that ridiculous. Not one person where I live is dumb enough to have anybody but Verizon or the main local carrier, and that carrier has a roaming agreement with Verizon so it's basically the same network.

I have faith that we will have a Nexus or Nexus-like device on Verizon in the future, and my Galaxy Nexus is still kicking along just fine. I will point out however that they aren't going to listen to the demands of a community like us, Verizon has no trouble with regular people leaving. There are plenty of people with large business accounts there totaling over $30,000 a month that will make up for it.

One thing I am interested in however is if the local cell carrier would allow for the Nexus 5. My mom has a plan with them, and they let her use her own phone from her previous carrier, something unheard of with CDMA carriers. Really their customer service is amazing, so considering that I don't doubt they'd figure a way out to do it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geebdroid:
I wouldn't worry about the IMEI being the problem.

The IMEI isn't going to be your problem. It will automatically update the servers when you swap the SIM card. the problem will be getting the phone to register the verizon towers and correcting the authentication information for that connection. PRLs and such.

I want to hear if anyone tries this. Google obviously won't say anything about it working, like they did with the nexus 4 and t mobiles LTE.

The kicker is that Sprint does a lot of roaming on verizon towers, and the phone has CDMA on the right bands. the LTE is actually the biggest question mark here.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
I'll tell you why I stay with verizon...they have the best coverage and the fastest data and I have never experienced a drop call like I did with AT&T. Secondly and more importantly, I have unlimited data and pay $24.99 a month for that. You just cant beat that considering I use 8-12GB a month and I havent been throttled yet. Verizon is a slam dunk....just wish the N5 was supported.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4554464]johio360[/MENTION] Thanks for bumping an old thread that really should be buried and burned.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
wont work on verizon, period. no matter how much time and effort you put into it, you will get 0 in return. theres a reason Verizon will not work on a nexus 5, because google does not want it to, since Verizon messed up with the galaxy nexus, and pretty much told google to piss off.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thor1k:
ST ATT LTE BYOP here
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johio360:
Is that it? Is this done?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
yup.

if you local verizon service has volte now(since verizon just started rolling it out), you can try to connect and make a phone call. but i dont think thatll work either, since the nexus 5 doesnt support volte.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geebdroid:
This would be another way to play with the ideas in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2886059

[GUIDE] Add all GSM and LTE bands to your phone

But it would make me nervous...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] equake:
Just a thought, Maybe the LG G2 modems will work for the phone since its similar. If so then its good to go on all bands.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
here's hoping somebody will make it work.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dewhashish:
Does the radio have the LTE band 13 built into it with an antenna? Id like to see someone unlock it like they did with band 4 LTE on the Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
Nexus 5 North America version doesn't have LTE band 13
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWhiteChallenger:
There may be a work around for this as soon as I can locate the 4g dummy ESN if someone on Verizon buys a n5 I can pm u the info a we can find out if it works
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiredout46:
i bought the n5 and i'm on verizon. let's see if we can make some people happy.

the google play page says mine will ship by the 8th though, so it'll be a while.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheWhiteChallenger:
Cool hopefully I can find what I need by then. There is a dummy ESN that is easily available but there is another one that is specifically 4g and that one is harder to find IMA gonna try and locate it or talk someone in tech support to give it to me.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
I'll holler when I get mine as well.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] J.Guido85:
Same here, But i won't be seeing mine for another 2 weeks according to shipping.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bunklung:
Verizon didn't authorize the Nexus 7, but the device worked for people who SIM swapped. New activations did not process.

The big question (for me at least) would be if Band 4 (LTE AWS) will work on a SIM swap.

The trouble would be finding/living-in an area that has this band active.

The bonus of the Nexus 5 would be if Band 13 was in the chipset, but just not activated. I find it hard to believe this is a special custom chip just for the Nexus 5. I assume it's a generic chip that supports more bands than meet the eye/spec sheet. We need a big tear down and some XDA snooping. XDA GO!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr_w:
Agreed on band 4...they are currently expanding as we speek. I think itll be a few months before this capability is widespread.

I follow [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION]4G hes has some intersting things to say about the whole bit. Im scheduled to get the 5 this thursday, I'll let you guys know how it works out. The question for me is whether or not to go prepaid if it doesnt work. Right now I have Unlimited data (grandfathered) on an S4 for $24 a month.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] McMalakai:
Deleted because everything I asked has been mentioned above.

Basically:

1. Does changing the IMEI get us anything? ( I Read the Mobile Device Theft Deterrence Act of 2012, which was written to make tampering with IMEI on stolen phones illegal. I'm suggesting taking my IMEI from my old phone and moving it to my new phone, neither of which is stolen, bother of which are mine. I'm sure at some point this will get to the courts and well see just what the extent of this new law will be )

2. Can we verify that the radio chipset used in the nexus V explicitly doesn't support band 13, or is it just a firmware block?

3. Even w/o IMEI hack or Radio hack, has anyone just tried using a SIM from a working vzw device?

Thanks for those of you willing to experiment.

As for the whole battered-spouse syndrome with VZW, it comes down to coverage for me. So I guess i'm in an abusive relationship with the only woman left on the planet.... as soon as another one shows up in my territory, i'll dump the abusive *****.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
Changing the IMEID is illegal. The antennae to support Verizon's bands might not be there. Give it a rest. I'm on Verizon because I get unlimited data on 4 phones for $215 including taxes and insurance. Why would I leave? I'll just get a phone I can live with. The N5 is not coming to VZW, get over it.