yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
our power is out and ive got 9% left on my phone...so unless we get power soon, i will have to postpone review.

but here is what i have so far;

1. display is very nice, bright and density. in sunlight, the display is bright enough to see. that being said, it does not compare to trans-reflective in direct sunlight. however, the touch sensitivity is so much better that sony. the ui also is quite nice.

2. all functions work well so far on ics 4.0, jb (all versions). tested with HTC desire, vivid, one x and one. samsung s3 and s4.

ok down to 3% thats it for now...i guess...unless pg&e kicks some ass.
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Have ordered through hotmid.com buy how do I track it as only PayPal Receipt no is available
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
hmm shame, was waiting for your review before i order, hope power is restored soon

(and not just for the review, ofcourse)
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
thanks for the review!

too bad it doesn't support gmail, i guess no whatsapp either?

don't you need a driver to be able to access it through adb?

edit: by the way, the 'reviews' on youtube kinda suck, either there is just music, or someone speaking poor english and i'd really like to see someone go through all functionality of the watch
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Ok...at work right now...sec issue...will do tonight. Adb is NOT working as of yet. The watch connects, but not as usb storage...only as a media player. BUT it is the ext_sd partition.

One of the functions i forgot to mention, is widget support. There r three widgets you can choose from, including tiled quick settings, calendar agenda widget and gofit. Youll see in the vid. Any devs wanna help with this
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Looking great I may receive it, order is placed but tracking number received

Request all Dev to workout a bit at this watch

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Uploading 11min vid now...

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Ok, here ya go. I dont have much time so u will do a follow up on call/sms/app notifications tomorrow. I will also be doing a side by side with the sw2.

https://db.tt/vW5dMePA

I tried to optimize without losing the quality. Lmk if it doesnt stream well.

BTW: i do have 1k contacts, looking into why it shows only half are present.
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Just wanted to confirm can we read email from watch ... ........ Any possibility to start a call directly from watch....... A bit excited but unfortunately I have very limited knowledge about Android request all Dev to pls look into this product can any one create a separate section for this watch and apologies for all the things I am new and trying to accommodate....

Thanks once again
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
just got my SGmail tracking number
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Me too

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Can we find way to root this device....... As no play store is available how to install apps

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] gripapc:
hello

I want the clock someone could tell me if exidte any chance that the clock can be put in Spanish???
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
very nice video, exactly what i needed to make my decision, so thanks for that :)

2 questions:

-i see you can select apps and system apps for notifications, gmail isnt in that list?

-the watch has a 'search for devices' under bluetooth, can you connect a headset and then listen to the mp3's on the watch? not that i would use it, i think, my Butterfly s can handle this very well, but it's nice if it's possible

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oh and what's the quickest way to get one? i'm in Europe

thanks :)
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Since you are new... Let me give you a big tip. BE SURE to read entire thread before asking questions.Your questions were answered in my review and video. Senior's and mods will have a conniption if you don't. I can see why, these reviews, mods, Roms, testing, etc take a lot of time... so be sensitive to that.

*****Which reminds me, please hit "thanks" button if i helped you.*****

You cannot read emails from watch. Only a notification is delivered. However, that being said, I have pushed around with some different apps... for example, I dl'd the yahoo mail app... activated it in the z-watch utility. Now I get, subject and sender. More tinkering req.

And no, so far, I have not found any way to dial or evoke a call from watch.
[Other SmartWatches] das7771:
Ya, I just did the same thing. Pandawill responded to my email and told me they do not know when it will be instock. So I ordered from the other site and they show the black model is in stock.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Tried to get SDK... don't have English yet. So we're on our own on this one.

No, English and french are the only languages available outside of Asia

Gmail is in list, only notify arrives. Yes, it is an mp3 player...connects via wired/wireless headset. Not sure about vender in Europe.
[Other SmartWatches] das7771:
mghtymse007,

Can you give us an idea of what the battery is like. Does is seem like it will make it through a full day at least, with average use?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I got almost 48hrs with x-heavy use. Btw, dropbox has suspended traffic...moving.
[Other SmartWatches] das7771:
That's pretty awsome, thanks for the info. This watch is sounding better and better. Hopefully mine ships soon.
[Other SmartWatches] wile.e.coyote:
Hehe, yeah amazing hey, I love online shopping here :)

It cost ¥699.00 (RMB - Chinese Renminbi) & delivery is Freeeeeeeee. LOL.
[Other SmartWatches] m_gliga:
Damn, I cannot buy it.

Anyone aware of another solution ?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Buy it thru ur phone. Install. Pull apk via adb
[Other SmartWatches] m_gliga:
That's what I wanted to try...

On the phone it is not even showing in Play Store.

On computer it says not available for your country, take a closer look of the attached image...

I will try to bypass it somehow...
[Other SmartWatches] pashka79:
2.4 version

Software Description:

Update log:

Add new dial.

New anti-lost reminder functions and setting options.

Correction digital dial time sometimes do not refresh problem.

Correction power plug-and sometimes not refresh problem.

Under certain circumstances calls to remind amendment does not display the name issue.

http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/FirmWare/201310/24-18809.html

New anti-lost reminder functions and setting options. it's good
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Hahaha...I had a feeling they were going to do that...have to say, smartQ is really on top of these updates and function adds.Maybe their watch will start gathering some steam...like to see the little guys gettin a piece of the action too.
[Other SmartWatches] rave75:
Does anyone have problem charging the watch. Now no matter how long I charge the indicator is always 55% full only.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Remove the widget ...then re-add it. This latest updater should fix that.
[Other SmartWatches] rave75:
Thanks. I will try that out. I can see you a real great fan of the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Nah, not really. Just a fan of technology. I like this watch cuz it works. Or I should say, it's workable. I have had fun tinkering with it.

This watch was just a time killer while I wait for the Omate....arg...and wait.
[Other SmartWatches] pashka79:
for me too
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Updated to 2.4 and I can't seem to find the anti lost stuff
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I set my phone down and walked away and it automatically notified me that bluetooth was disconnected. I'd bet that's what they're referring to.
[Other SmartWatches] v-angel:
Please tell me why i cant sync the call log?and how can i install the play store?or find some apps?
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Yep, mine did the same and surprised me.

We got some new watch faces as well.

For a few releases now I can't seem to sync quick SMS replies. Does that function still work for other people?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Same here. Not sure what the issue is...but it seems to sync if you remove the zwatch from the bt list and reconnect.
[Other SmartWatches] rave75:
Still no luck. Its still stuck at 54%. My Battery now last only half the time compared to the past. Tried different charger also same. Maybe need to RMA.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Somehow the phone is able to send update files directly to the watch through the phone app, is there any way to enable this for other files as well? Otherwise, if I understand correctly I have to side load a browser onto the watch and a keyboard to use wifi file Explorer.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Not sure if anyone else has noticed/tried but you can get the AndroidPIT apk installed and it pulls the free apps from the play store and even allows for updating. It also breaks the categories into apps for your device. Everything important seems to fit on screen and if you've got a keyboard app you're good to go.

Side note, SoundHound works like a charm on the watch. Just go into settings and tick the use classic checkbox:good:
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Did you do anything special to get album art pushed? Mine is just a black screen?
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Nope, it just worked. For both google Play Music and PowerAmp.

Which app are you using to play music?
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
Ok... updated ro 2.4 but now want to make custom version of it

What stock apk should I remove and what apps do you recommend I push to the update zip
[Other SmartWatches] mjkall:
zWatch apps and SMS message troubles.

AndroidPIT is fine, thanks. I have used my android 2.3.x Motorola Razr to download apps and then with APKoptic made a copy apk and transfered to ZWatch. I used first this PcSuite: 91.pandaapp.com/pcsuite/ (also have a market Moborobo).

But nowadays I use Airdroid wifi transfer.

Because i use so old android 2.3.6 in my phone, i stopped upgrading to 2.1. In my phone is the ZWatch sync v1.0. Everything is quite OK, but SMS was troublesome. But now works excellant with Ninja SMS from Google Play. There popups a floating window when SMS is coming. Screenshot ://kuvaton.com/k/Y5Kr.png (ad the http to see the picture)
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
My main player is Player Pro, but I tried it with Play Music and the Samsung stock player too. All push track info but none album art.
[Other SmartWatches] alvanyap:
i use with xperia stock walkman app and the album art is there :)
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I don't know what I'm doing wrong then:confused:

Next question, in the advanced wifi options on a normal Android phone you can set the wifi to be off during sleep, since there is no menu button anywhere does anyone know if it is possible somehow to set this?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
When the screen's off, the WiFi automatically goes into a power save mode.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
So theoretically I can leave the wifi on and it will only be "on" when the screen is on?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
No, this is a low power state and is not off. When the screen is off, the connection is no longer live...but the Wi-Fi is still on and is drawing power.

I found that adding a Wi-Fi widget helps in managing the wireless consumption. You'll need one that gives you the current status. I find a decent one, it's by Rounded Labs . DL from play or from ftp.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Thanks, I'll check it out. I have the 1mobile appstore alongside AndroidPIT and I'm able to find most of what I want/need on the watch. Do you have any ideas why my album art isn't getting pushed? I am on a Galaxy S3 stock with latest update
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Have had a few people that have Sammy products and issues with syncing. Problems with call log, sms, gallery, etc. Not sure what the problem is ...sorry.
[Other SmartWatches] alvanyap:
i think its due to sammy customized their contact & sms apps
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I use mysms so the contacts and sms don't bother me. Just wish album art would show. It would be so cool!
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Did you guys have to do anything to get your PC to recognize your watch? I still cannot get my Window's 8 machine to connect. It makes the connection sound but nothing shows up. It worked for a couple days with my Windows Vista PC but then all of a sudden it stopped showing up on that one too. Did you have to download any SDK or something? I just don't get it...
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Is your USB debugging on or off?

SmartQ has yet to release a stable driver for win8. So far, the most compatible machine to use is a win7 32bit.

On the vista system, try removing the driver from the system...restart...and try again.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I tried with USB debugging on and off, no difference. It still doesn't work on my Vista system after uninstalling the drivers. Hopefully they put out a Windows 8 driver soon. It's REALLY difficult to add apps.

Btw, how do you uninstall an app after you've installed it?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I installed AirDroid and it has an app manager but I'm thinking any app manager that fits on screen will work
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Airdroid worked perfectly.

Another question though- to anyone who has installed GMAIL on their watch, which gmail apk did you install and does anyone have the file I can download?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I know whatsapp had been discussed before and I did read the entire thread but it's getting pretty big now to sift through. When I get a notification from whatsapp, email, Gmail, kik, etc. It just gives me a blank notification with the app icon. Is there any way to get some text along with it? I get contact name with whatsapp but that's it. I still have to get my phone out and see if it was important.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I just push mine through one of the holes in the band. I charge mine with a USB connector cable plugged into my phone while my phone is on the wireless charger or on my tablet the same way
[Other SmartWatches] newton123:
I have been told that Gmail is way to big for the watch to function. Apparently you need to go back to a very early version.
[Other SmartWatches] rjh1:
Can anyone that has this watch tell me if it vibrates when the phone or messages/emails comes in.

Thanks

Rick
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Yes it does, as long as you are bluetooth range. Even if your phone is in silent watch will still vibrate.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Following another forum I realized something. I couldn't understand why the "OK Google" feature on my phone would work sometimes and then without explanation would stop working. I knew it had something to do with my settings but I finally narrowed it down- when I activate Settings-->Device-->Accessibility-->Z Watch Sync the OK Google feature deactivates. When I disable the Z Watch Sync the feature reactivates. I have tested it again and again.

My question is this, do we need to have the Z Watch Sync activated in order to use the watch?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
[MENTION=2146170]ofsinreno[/MENTION] wow, good call bro! I was going nuts trying to figure out why that feature was down on my N5...thanks!

If you disable the z-watch in accessibility, it will basically stop all notifications from user apps, msg'g and email. I was able to still get calendar, call log and call notifs. So, it will reduce the watch's functionality by more than 50%. Not worth it for just the vGS function...in my opinion... all search features are unaffected otherwise.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
My wife was sitting across from me at dinner last night and asked why my way watch wasn't on. I explained the motion that activates the screen and showed her how it worked to which she replied "So no one else is allowed to know what time it is?" So today just for arguments sake I am leaving the display on all day on the lowest brightness setting to see how it affects the battery life. I will leave bluetooth on and try to leave wifi off and report back.

UPDATE: 6 hours of screen on wifi off bluetooth on and I got the 14% battery warning. I'm guessing it would only make it maybe 7 hours which isn't enough for a full day at work. If we could just get a higher capacity battery in there we would be set. Does anyone know the measurements of the battery? I would be willing to try and hunt down a higher MaH battery that would fit in the housing and install it.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
For those who are interested I opened up the watch today. The battery doesn't plug in but the wires are long enough to cut off and wire in a new one without having to solder directly on the board. The battery measures one inch tall by about an inch and a quarter across. There were no markings on the visible side and I didn't peel it off the back. I attached a photo of the insides.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I read on a different forum that the battery cavity is large enough to replace stock with a bigger battery. I remember mentions of the possibility a 450mAh, but the thread never completed or posted findings...does it seem to you like there is room for an increased capacity cell such as this?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Here is anther pic. It's actually only a 280 mAh. I held it tight to the bottom of the case. Looks to be a few extra mm.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Huh, looks like there's space...not only vertically, but horizontally as well. If you can get some dimensions, in mm, of the cavity...I'll see what I can find.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
OK, I'm just about to go to bed, but I'll get some measurements with a caliper tomorrow
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
According to your estimates, I found a 400mah w/charge protection on eBay that would work...depending on the thickness. I am guessing the max battery thickness at 6mm. So...it just may be possible.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Do you have a link or Item number? If it's cheap I'll spring for it and text fit it and if it fits try it out. 400 is definitely better than 280
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Item# 231088897728, $8.88
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
OK, I see the same seller has a 1,000 and 1,200 also that aren't much bigger. I'll try to get exact measurements tomorrow. Might as well cram the biggest one in there we can. I seriously have to go to bed now. Work in 5 hours.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
These guys have a lot of little lithium batteries used in hobbies:

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/index.asp

I mentioned way back in this thread I would take a look but Christmas and kids got in the way.
[Other SmartWatches] alvanyap:
according to my measurement its appx 3.1cm x 2.5cm x 0.5cm
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Battery right, not the cavity?
[Other SmartWatches] alvanyap:
size of the original battery :)
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Great...thanks! That's good news...

Curious tho...why would SmartQ not take advantage of this space and wire in a more substantial battery? Especially since the biggest complaint on wearables is the lack of a decent power pack...

I can't think of many...but, what could the reason this space is left empty? I can see that the sensors near the top of the watch need to be free to move...but other than that...?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
The cavity measures 33mm across by 28.8mm high with a 6mm depth including both the space in the cavity and watch back. Item number 111245726673 on eBay was a close as I could find with the highest capacity I could find in just searching very quickly. It is a 450 MaH. It is 1 mm thicker but being that is it narrower it will clear the higher part of the board which is the button that is 1mm. Feel free to prove me wrong and find one a bit higher MaH.
[Other SmartWatches] m_gliga:
I guess this works over WiFi ...

Do we have any chance to get data connection over bluetooth ? Without some cumbersome apps?
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
$99.

Probably did whatever they could to put out a decent device under $100.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Have yet to find an app or mod that will feed data thru the bt.

In regards to battery life...I was able to squeeze out 8.5hrs with BT-on, WiFi-on, screen-75%, sleep-10secs, and autolight-off. i would consider it to be a low to med notification

If we can get a 450+ battery to fit in there, shut off the BT, and prioritize the sync apps...I think we can get thru an entire day without worry.

However, I would prefer if we could tether the data and maximize batt life to 2-3 days...in a perfect world, of course.

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Our course, cost is always one of the largest factors in any product. But in this case, it's a battery...not a Mediatek vs Qualcomm cost analysis. The bulk cost difference between a 280mah and 450mah is so minimal, it doesn't make sense. Why would a company assign resources and go thru the expense of developing a low voltage device, only to save .50¢/unit?

Not saying I don't agree with you...I do. I just want to make sure we're not missing something and end up turning my watch into a stone(nickname for a bricked pebble).

Which reminds me: Does anyone know or can find out what the discharge rate is on the stock 280mah battery?
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
No I agree too, the cost is minimal, it would have been nice to have a larger battery.

It's interesting though how everyone uses the watch differently. For example- I don't use wifi at all, like ever. But without bluetooth the watch would be pointless to me. Whereas it sounds like a lot of you use wifi more than bluetooth...
[Other SmartWatches] romeroro:
is there any way to install Endomondo? Thanks a greeting
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Yes over wifi. I tethered mine to my phone via wifi but this was bad for battery life on both phone and watch
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I'm getting only mildly annoyed by lack of useful information that gets sent along with a notification. For instance I use the Detroit Red Wings app that gives notifications when a goal is scored by either team and at key time points in the game. These notifications give details in my notification tray on my S3 but on the watch it just gives the app name. Is there anything that can be done? Is this a limitation of the watch or phone? Same thing happens with kik and whatsapp to name a few off the top of my head.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
looked around a bit...the 450mAh seems to be the highest we can go...theres one battery I found that could be a real winner... if theres a way to squeeze it in...of all the batteries I saw, this was the smallest, highest capacity i could find. A 600mAh that measures 35x30x6...SO CLOSE

http://hondark-battery.en.alibaba.c..._GPS_lithium_polymer_battery_3_7V_600mAh.html

Oh, I did also find a 550mAh that measures 6x29x31,,,but i dont think it has a pcb...sent inquiry...will update
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I agree. I receive about 30 emails a day from two different Gmail accounts and it would be so great to see more info when they arrive.

This watch has so much potential if they bring us more features, like a way to customize vibration based on the app the notification comes from, or maybe a watch face similar to the digital one but rather than weather on the bottom of the screen it could scroll ticker-style the last few notifications that came in.

In the end I'm really happy, and hopeful...