yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
I avg around a 1 days use of normal usage wifi off ..bt on.. medium amount notifications..I did get let it standby with everything off for two days and it only went down 5%

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Are u on 1.8 or 2.0 ? I noticed yesteria said on TR tgat 1.8 had way better battrry life I was just curious
[Other SmartWatches] puppysong:
Wow, great. thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
Just got mine. FW1.5

what version to update? 2.0?
[Other SmartWatches] phantastic_:
ok but this is due to an hardware limit? or with an appropriate app i can measure more little increments?!?
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
Mine is W1 as well, .. mayiandjay must have had an earlier version because I ordered it after seeing his review

Also, I received an English manual and small plastic screw to cover up the 3.5mm jack when not in use, .. my guess is the Z1 is the Chinese version, W1 is international, doubt there are deep hardware changes though.
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
I've just received mine. W1 model. FW. 1.5

Can I update to 2.0 directly or do I have to update to intermediate firmwares first?
[Other SmartWatches] geek78:
Finaly I have mine ! A Z1 model. Will try to post tomorrow a custom rom rooted (root part is done :D ), don't have the time today :(

This is a good watch for the price, but to be honest I prefer my Gear :p
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
No...each update needs to be applied separately.

If you really wanted to get accurate times...I am sure there's an app....I just don't think you would want to use this particular watch for precision

timing.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
NERD POWER +1
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
It's so cheap, I'll make my own opinion once it arrives.
[Other SmartWatches] leapcad:
Can someone who actually receives the watch confirm that it will NOT dial the phone. I read somewhere that it will only receive notification and not dial out.

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
cancelled on pandawill and re ordered from smartqme
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
i had the SmartQ5 :)

does this watch have a microphone?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Yes it does

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I am confirmed to receive mine today. I will write some reviews/thoughts on the device over the next few days.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
i'm thinking on making this the "main" smartq z thread... all in favor?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Sure... Excellent...Do it.

FYI: I know this is currently the ONLY US dealer with these in stock(black): tabletsprint.com.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
do they know the difference between a "1" and a "3"???

This remains on their website as of today...

As previously noted in this thread, it's 4.1JB and not 4.3. Will have the watch within the next few hours. Will post pix and quick review tonight.

Anyone have specific things you want me to try or questions, just post them here?
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
I would ask you to try and see if hebrew works with it.

As for it being 4.1 and not 4.3... as long as it works
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I am going to try to sideload a list of things, including GP. So I'll be happy to try it for you.
[Other SmartWatches] shammc:
I ordered mine a couple of days ago from smartq but not had an email of shipping yet even though it showed in stock black colour.

do they send a postage confirmation or should I just wait for it to arrive.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
That means it hasn't shipped yet...I played this game with three of these Asian sites, before I landed on Tablet Sprint.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Z1/HTC One X

So far, pretty darn good. Connects easily, syncs contacts, calendar, SMS, weather, etc with no issue. I'm sorry Sony, this screen wipes the floor with yours.

Important function note: in order to enter text directly into watch, ie: wireless passkey, an remote keyboard has been built into the utility menu.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Any way possible we can get a video review or written review with pics anytime soon ?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Coming up.... Stand by
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Cool deal thanks
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Anything in particular you need to see?
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Can u sideload apps is my biggest question
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
OK...FYI... this CPU is MIPS. Some type of conversion will be necessary before a side load can be done.

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Current mips apps. Here's a start for us: mipsdroid.com

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Anyone come across a driver for this? I see on SD's website that it supports win7/8 only, but no where to DL...

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Anyone come across a driver for this? I see on SD's website that it supports win7/8 only, but no where to DL...
[Other SmartWatches] phantastic_:
sure but i don't want a professional accurate precision but only a normal one. almost milliseconds to say ;) but it's important that there is not such hardware limitations
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
Unfortunately sync has stopped

On the question: "Can I update to 2.0 directly or do I have to update to intermediate firmwares first?"

Ok, I guess, you need to have the watch in order to understand the upgrade process.

The updates are partial updates and not full FW replacements. So an incremental update is a must.

Connecting the watch through BT to my phone guided me through every single firmware upgrade until I reached 2.0. (1.5 -> 1.6 -> 1.7 -> 1.8 -> 1.9 -> 2.0)

1.9 took a bit longer to install & reboot ->2 + 2 min. (not upload).

After updating to 1.9 the watch felt a bit less responsive.

After upgrading to 2.0 the responsiveness was back.

Upgrade went very smooth. Now searching why no contacts en calendar events are synced.

I keep getting the error message: "Unfortunately sync has stopped." No contacts, no calendar items.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Enable watch in accessibility
[Other SmartWatches] timtop:
Digital clock problem:

Does anyone have any problem with their digital watch face not refreshing?

I was away on biz and kept my zwatch plugged in for three days. When I come back, I notice all the digital watch faces did not refresh, both the time, date and day of week remained as three days ago. This also affect the day of week and date of the analog watch face (but not the time, strangely). I did not wifi or BT on.

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Zwatch-compatible apps:

You should look at this thread on the Motorola Motoactv:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2343322

Reason - both the Motoactv and Zwatch have 240 x 240 screen resolution. I find that many apps run on the zwatch, but either the layout is screwed up (eg. no showing a lot of the screen including buttons), or it does not display at all.

From the Motoactv working app list, I found that:

(1) calculator from CM7 (download from HERE) - looks and works perfectly

(2) Stopwatch & Timer (only stopwatch function works, to the closest 0.1 second. Display works properly on the screen. Timer does not work) - you can find this from Google Play store.

(3) Color Note sort-of works - vibration reminder alert works (no popup reminder message). The biggest problem is that sticky note widget does not work, but you can run the main app in order to read and write notes.

(4) S2 Calendar widget - the scrollable calendar widget works. You don't have to go to the app drawer to run Calendar app in order to see monthly calendar. This app looks prettier as well.

(5) On-screen keyboard:

flit keyboard (thank you das7771) from Google Play store

In order to change keyboard from default (using Z-assistant on your smart phone) to the new KB (or vice versa), you need this:

Quick Keyboard Switch from Google Play store

You can change what KB you want to use, but more importantly, you can bring up "Set up input method" which cannot be accessed from the Zwatch menu. You must check-mark this keyboard before you can use it.

(6) Appinstaller - there are two apps with the same name, I use the one by Gregory House. This helps you uninstall apps without using ADB. Most of the time it removes the app drawer icon as well - if they persist, just reboot the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I have about 20 or so apps that I have tested and are functional. As mentioned, some of the apps have screen limitation issues... But are functional. Let me know if you want to take a look.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Im interested let u know lol maybe we should start a new thread with compatible apps
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Good idea!! This thread is getting a bit big.. You wanna start it...????
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
You go ahead if you have your list ready I got.about 5 good ones im gonna look for more and then ill post on your thread
[Other SmartWatches] timtop:
nothing here
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Awaiting for custom rom good job buddy.....
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
Connect through ADB

Installed google drivers

Connected watch (it's in debug mode)

ADB devices.... Nothing found

Can someone post a guide how it's exactly done. So I can try sideloading some apps that you've posted as working.

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] emprize:
will this get whatsapp and facebook messager notification from my phone?
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Once we have a custom rom.with.root then we will be able to bluetooth tether (which is low power) any notifications that can work over a data connection over to our watch
[Other SmartWatches] emprize:
good, hope someone gonna develop it,

oh, anyone developing actually?
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Geek78 is already rooted he mentioned a custom rom he would drop on us.tommrow so.let us.all cross our fingers but if.not...no.rush lol
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
Conditional call forwarding active

When I make a call the message "Conditional call forwarding active" appears on my watch. then several empty messages.

Can someone explain this behavior?
[Other SmartWatches] shammc:
Thought I would post here as I don't want to clog up the apps thread.

But can someone post a how to guide for complete noobs/dummys on how to install apps on this watch.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
well... a problem

while i know the rom has hebrew fonts, it doesn't show hebrew in sms or calander... how can i fix it?
[Other SmartWatches] zsha:
some tips and a a couple queries

Had my zwatch a couple days now and found this forum really useful. I have one issue I am hoping someone can help me with and will try and help the other noobs out a little bit.

My issue:

I get SMS and Phone notifications ok; and weather updates work but no Email notifications at all. Watch is paired to Galaxy Note3 with V2.0 stock firmware on the smartwatch. All other functions seem to work ok.

Anyone else having email notification problems and know how to resolve please.

Secondary query ...anyone worked out how to make proximity work ..ie. I thought the watch was supposed to alert when the phone goes out of range ?

Tips for other noobs:

Sideloading/firmware upgrade:

For me the the simplest way to sideload apps was to install the recovery tool setup program on a windows 7 32 bit machine and then the watch just shows up as media device and you can drag and drop apks into the sdcard. For some reason this doesnt work on other os combinations e.g. windows vista doesnt like the driver in the setup.

This works for me cos I am using V2.0 firmware on the watch and that has a filemanager app pre-installed on the watch and so very simple to navigate to the directory and clicking on the apk to initiate the install.

This same method can be used to upgrade the firmware ..just copy the update.zip file (unpacked) to the root of the sdcard and then go to firmware upgrade option under settings.

Apparently MIPS compliant android apps are what we need for this watch ...and there are some here. Havent tried any yet ..

http://www.mipsdroid.com/category/apps/

Initiating (but not making calls):

The Contacts app seems to be a red-herring ..you cannot do anything with the contacts in there except view them. So I guess its a reference/lookup tool only on the app. To initiate a call one must go to the messages app; pick a message and then the phone icon will appear. clicking this phone icon should launch the phone call. I had limited success initially but a fresh V2.0 install rather than an incremental update from v1.8 seemed to make this feature work eventually. (obviously its a shame that we cant use the watch mic to hold the conversation or ..actually have a speaker built into the watch itself).

Will try to share more as I learn more ..so hope that helps someone.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
as for my last hebrew problem

a fix might be to use dejavu fonts from http://sourceforge.net/projects/dejavu/files/

rename it to "DroidSansFallback.tft" and repack a rom with it... will wait for the new custom rom (hope it will be up today)
[Other SmartWatches] pashka79:
I take a fonts from 4.1 regular rom and i has hebrew
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Make sure the z-watch accessibility is on in settings. Also make sure you have the proper notification settings in the watch utility.., the last option in the utility is where you can customize which app's notifications get sent to the watch.

No, not yet. Supposedly coming via an update... Soon, I hope!!!!! One feature I am REALLY missing from my sw2.

Found these apps to cause more issues then their worth.. Most apps work when directly DL'd from Play.... without the need for MIPS conversion.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Btw: I have small selection of apps that I have tested and do work on the watch. The list of apps is located in a separate thread under "Other Watches" here on XDA.
[Other SmartWatches] zsha:
Many Thanks mghtymse007 ! I did get your apps.

I resisted doing that accessibility option from the sync tool cos it seems to turn off many of my Note3 services e.g. the pen and stuff. So you probably have the right answer for me except that...

... you will see from the other forum (geek78s new rom) that I seem to have bricked watch at present...I cant get it back into restore mode and it just keeps buzzing (4 buzzes pause then 2 buzzes then repeat). So maybe a while before I get to try these apps and notifications :(

Anyone know how to get a buzzing z-watch back into restore mode ? :eek:

Okay ...so I finally got it restored after a hour so of pressing the restore mode buttons over and over again (for 10ish seconds). So at least that restore tool works well ! ;)

Update: Added english language user guide for the watch
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
and yet, not hebrew... any other option?
[Other SmartWatches] pashka79:
I don not know I change one font file and add 2 in to update zip everything work with hebrew
[Other SmartWatches] geek78:
There is a new official update, the 2.1.

If someone want to try, here is a custom rom :

- based on 2.1

- rooted

- file manager and sleepings stats deleted

- AOSP browser and calculator added

- Fx File manager and Fx root add on from Nextapp added

- Flit keyboard from Locnet added

- Quick keyboard switcher from Appaholics added

- Very light gapps package added (no more email client)

[HOW-TO]

1-Flash the watch with the restore tool from https://hotfile.com/dl/255788947/abfedd9/z1_restore_tool.zip.html (yes, i know, it will format the watch and you will loose everything... but it is needed)

2-Copy this http://www.multiupload.nl/TNB1INGIWU to the root of the /Sdcard of your watch and rename it as update.zip

3-Start the flash from the watch

4-After the boot you can delete the 2 chinese apps with App Uninstaller

[Remember]

if you apply an update (OTA or full update) you will loose root, gapps ....

[Issues/Advices]

The screen is so small that you can't see all the options of superuser when an app ask for root rights. So, you will have to go to Superuser and change setting to "allways answer yes" before installing and starting for the 1st time a new app which needs root, after what, off course, you can go back to superuser and change again settings

You can't apply my rom without flashing with the restore tool before ! Even if you are yet running my rom ! Sorry but i don't have time to change this ...

I suggest you to install Ultimate Dynamic Navbar from Playstore (better than PIE)

If it is OK I will post it on the other thread
[Other SmartWatches] puppysong:
wow, great.
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
What did you add?
[Other SmartWatches] pashka79:
I add this 3 files in the font directory at the update.zip after that everything work ok with hebrew
[Other SmartWatches] geek78:
if someone want to buy one, mine, bought from smartq directly 2 weeks ago, can be shipped with express shippment in europe for 99$ / 74€ :D
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
I found interesting but before the 2.1 update if I had the screen at full brightness it would show.tiny horizontal lines across black colors displayed.on the screen ..I assumed this was the screen resolution. But after the 2.1 update on full brightness those lines are gone and the screen looks a little bit sharper..thought I was crazy so I z1 burn.tool back to 1.8 and the lines were back ..flashed to 2.1 ..lines gone lol I dont know.can anyone confirm or is it.just me ?
[Other SmartWatches] raul_sbd:
2.1 update

Is it a official update the 2.1 firmware? where i could have the link to the official update online?

Regards
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Well I flashed geek78 custom rom which has been.updated to 2.1 but the official link is http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/FirmWare/201310/24-18806.html
[Other SmartWatches] hun_gery:
Hi, I am interested to buy your watch.

Is it good enough for Xmas present? (i mean no scratches, no chips, excellent overall condition etc.)

Please PM me the details.

Thank you very much,

Gery
[Other SmartWatches] iakovl:
http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
So..... You see watch..... Want watch...order watch... Get watch... Root watch.... Now, you're selling watch?? Did you learn or see something you didn't like?? What is the reason for selling so quick?
[Other SmartWatches] geek78:
I have the Gear and, even if it is not the same price, it is not the same world :D The Gear, except for the Wifi, is much much much ... much better :eek:
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I guess that now it's been rooted and custom roms are starting to show up... The 320x320 is truly amazing. I had the gear for about a week when it first came out,, it's limitations and price tag were too much to stomach... So I decided on the Omate instead
[Other SmartWatches] zsha:
This worked really well for me ..now I have root on my zwatch ..THX !
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Man I wish we could get Bluetooth tethering working for this watch I would love it...I'm considering selling mine and adding a little cash to get me a galaxy gear..its looking pretty tempting but I really don't wanna go no where I like this watch a lot for the price
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
hold off the galaxy gear, you might change your phone in the near future and it i will become useless (since it only works with select Samsung devices) ... also, I am pretty sure a lot of cool smartwatches will come in the beginning of 2014, so stick with the zwatch for now
[Other SmartWatches] zsha:
[Feature Request]

Since geek78's the new 2.1 firmware Im actually find this watch more useful ...but have a query/feature request.

Any one know when initiating a phone call from the watch then how to cause the phone start in "speakerphone" mode rather than normal mode ?

thx in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] demonhater:
I was able to get bluetooth pan tethering to work using this app-

bluetooth pan for root

It doesn't seem to work with all apps...ie doesn't download apps in Play and gmail doesn't work.

Browsing works and calendar seems to sync. I'll do further testing later.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
I tried that but mine would never connect ..what steps made successful for you
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Will geek78's custom rom allow me to receive Gmail notifications on my watch?
[Other SmartWatches] demonhater:
I installed the rooted update

paired watch with my phone

installed bluetooth pan for root from playstore on watch

set superuser to automatically allow all apps

started bluetooth tethering on my phone

started bluetooth pan for root on watch

chose phone

hit connect

turned off wifi on watch

started browser on watch to see if working

Have you tried tethering another device to your phone to make sure bluetooth tethering from your phone is working?
[Other SmartWatches] vaccdroid:
I should (hopefully) be getting my watch soon. Curious. Is the blurtooth not working for the official version of this watch OR are we just talking abou the rooted ones. I am not planning on rooting the watch. I just want the watch to tell me the time , weather, calendar updates and notification of text, email and calls.. These are not working in the official firmware on the watch (which is 2.1 I believe.) . Again sometimes hard to understand what is going on in the thread with alot of rooting and such. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Thanks bud I changed my note 2 ROM everything is gravy
[Other SmartWatches] arpitruia:
Not able to connect phone after rooting......... Any it's just stuck on please waiting............. Pls help..... Music player no sound output in earphones..........
[Other SmartWatches] Artimis:
For those interested in an alternative to Bluetooth tethering for web browsing, try installing Screen Share from the market. It should allow browsing from the watch via the phones connection.

I know it works with the Motoactv and Galaxy Gear so I'm curious if it works with this device as well.

I agree, 2014 will be a good year for smart watches. I'm excited to see what they come out with. However now that the Galaxy Gear is rooted with custom ROMs, people have been getting it to work just fine with non-galaxy phones.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
I agree that 2014 will see lots of smart watches come to market, hopefully smart other devices as well.

I just ordered a Z Watch to see if I like the form factor. Never been a fan of wearing watches so this is the cheapest entry point with decent functionality. I really need a way of getting notifications, I keep missing calls! At the moment a smart watch seems like the best solution.

Smart Q are releasing quick updates which is a good sign and from this thread there is a lot of interest and information on the Z Watch.

I have also ordered an Asus Padfone Infinity 2. My hope is to keep it in tablet format most of the time and use the Z Watch for notifications.
[Other SmartWatches] standef:
Had mine for a couple of weeks and it works great. Haven't rooted it. An App store for it is coming in a week. Read all the posts here.. they address most of the issues with the watch. Medium usage with notifications and I get just about a day before I have to recharge it.. wish that part were better.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
I read through the thread start to finish before purchasing. The only issue I have will be the battery life. I can't see myself using it too much, just want the notifications.

If there was a vibrating wrist band for smartphone notifications that would probably suit me.

I was wanting to get a Qualcomm TOQ but without knowing how I will like wearing a watch again it was a bit of an expensive gamble!
[Other SmartWatches] standef:
I have seen a wrist band type watch on ebay that does just the notifications.. but the z-watch is expandible and the price is reasonable for what it does. Let's see what further rooting and other apps take it...