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[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Soft plastic or wood and sandpaper. make a dummy (wires included) slightly lager then the battery area and sand off the excess until you have a good fit. Measure the size and start searching for a battery that is as close to that size as possible but not larger. Be sure to double check variances in size with the supplier

If you establish a SmartQ Z user group and have enough members, you may be able to get a single sample battery for testing at a bulk price if you tell them what you are trying to do. It also helps to direct them to the group's website as this may be seen as a marketing opportunity for them.

I don't have a Z or otherwise I'd help out more. It does look like a nice companion device though and wish you guys luck.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Doing a mock up is a good idea. I will contact these guys and see what is possible. Will report back.

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Loki, I know you are swamped with Omate, her highness, and life itself...but if you could help with some customization and mods...I am sure I get you a zwatch at no cost. This watch could really use some talent.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
After I release a TWRP flashable version of my current ROM, I'm done deving on the Omate and may not even release that. Anything else I do on it after that will be for personal use.

I don't really customize, I tend to leave that to themers. I kick out the occasional MOD now and again but my main focus is tuned barebones or stock ROMs and let folks customize how the like and support the other devs behind the scenes If you guys get together and are ok with that then sure, snag a free zwatch if you can and I will kick out stuff for folks.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Why are you thinking of not releasing your Omate Rom? Can you discuss your reasoning behind this possibility? I don't think I would be as interested if you stop dev'g for them... Starting to seriously consider cancelling order with Omate.

Supply/demand issues are currently plaguing SmartQ right now...so, it's good that you need time. I imagine that you'll have your watch towards the end of Jan. I'll PM you once I get confirmation that their in stock. Not sure if they'll give a choice for developer units...but JIC, color preference?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
The TWRP version is the same verion that already out but flashable using the new custom recovery.

The constant "you're a fanboy/hater/Omate employee/troll" attacks, credibility of updates/specs, lack of communication, the reversal of the shipping order (pre-orders first, KS backers last), being asked to explain things like CPU governors to the Omate Dev team.........you get the idea.

Not surprised, they had similar issues a few years back with the v5 and 7.

LOL. The KS U.S. versions are not even supposed to start shipping til the end of January.

Color is not an issue so what ever they are willing to part with. JIC? Please explain.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Just in case...

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Whoaaa! Hold on...when did this piece of news hit the datawaves?? Jesus, if that isn't the biggest slap in the face to the backers!!! One piss poor decision after another.

As far as your reasoning...yeah, I get it. You should NOT be the one teaching Omate's team...especially for free.

Did you see the Pebble 2 (steel)? So disappointing. Really thought they were "the little guys" chance to outperform the big OEMs.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
1. 512MB+4GB (2100MHz EU): Ongoing

2. 1GB+8GB (1900MHz US): Beginning of January (FCC will be officially released anytime soon)

3. 1GB+8GB (2100MHz EU): Mid of January

4. 512MB+4GB (1900MHz US): upgraded to 1GB+8GB (1900MHz US): End of January

So by process of elimination (Only Extreme editions came 1/8 configuration and 1/4 was never directly sold but was an optional upgrade to the 512/4) a U.S. October 512/4 with 1GB upgrade (now with free upgrade to 1/8) will be shipped at the end of January. Also have to keep in mind that Le Pen said that preorders were going to be shipped first so that eliminates number 2.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Hope the mods don't get mad but if anyone is interested in buying mine Im thinking of selling it I could do it for 85 shipped from south carolina PayPal of course for my safety and yours
[Other SmartWatches] clarkcool:
hello receive this watch today and make me crazy already

a have few questions hope you can help me

first how can i type the wifi password? no virtual key board?

how can i install apk like omate watch faces couldn t find .apk

and last for the moment gmail notifications doesn't work ? and is it normal bluetooth disconnet all the time?

it start bad:(

by the way never order on pandawill liar very long shipping
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
On smartQme it said black watch is in stock and I have ordered it. Now on EMS tracking the status is "Pending shipment from Merchant/Shipper" since two days. Do you think it means that it was not really in stock?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
AFAIK they only ship on Saturday. I ordered mine on Friday and had it in Canada on Monday.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
1. Install Z-Watch assistant from //www.smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/ on your smartphone and it has a capability to type strings and transfer it to watch via bluetooth (you should bond it, it differs from BT pairing but you can't pass without it).

Or you can pair a regular BT keyboard, it works too.

2. Connect watch to computer.

Press multiple times on Settigs-->About-->Model number and it says "USB debugging is enabled" or so.

Use a regular Android development "adb" tool to push and install your .apk file. If it hasn't ARM-specific assembler libs (most don't have it. or have MIPS variant of it) it will be installed. Exclusion - some Google apps which are delivered in Android phones in system may require certificates which are absent, this watch hasn't Google market (yet? or it is a Chine policy to stop communication with US Google - I don't know).

3. To setup notification you should go to Z-Watch assistant "SYNC" tab and select an appropriate apps which notification Z-Watch assistant can consider for transferring to watch. For exam, I exclude Skype - it is too noise, because it notifies on each connect-disconnect during moving between WiFi and mobile network.

Caveat: You may want to use a latest firmware version (2.5 today) and Z-Watch assistant because Ingenic had problems with maintaining a good connection between watch and smartphone on BT with low power. Now they fixed that and I see the connection is OK and battery live time increases... let's say 50%.

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Yes, it is. They definitely underestimated the interest. Many managers asked me "why I need it, what can I do with it", but they stopped after I show them a notifications on GTalk or stock share price. Phone vibration in pocket may be missed, especially in meeting.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
What I meant was the customizing and optimization of the ROM itself. I really feel that SmartQ's ROM is fairly well developed, but needs streamlining and to be polished up a bit. I'm not big into themes, etc... I would rather have a smooth, stable, and optimized device.

I'm speechless! Not sure how I missed this one....but very disappointing to say the least.

I've said it before, this is the kind of f-ups that will eventually bury Kickstarter and Indie. Just look at the massive decline of wearables funding after pebble failed to deliver up to a year past it's promise date. I read that almost 70% of the Pebble campaign backers that were surveyed would never back a project again. This is completely unfair to all future projects, not to mention the funding websites.

At this point, it'll take a lot to get me to back another project. And it's not due to the tribes and tribulations of bringing tech to market. Actually, I'm still pissed at the misrepresentation of play support...that was simply an out n out LIE. If Samsung, or any OEM, pulled this ****...there would be false advertising lawsuits everywhere.

I'd they're gonna survive, KS and I-gogo MUST initiate some kind of system that verifies the claims of would-be campaigners. I recently found a smartwatch campaign that turned out to be a fraud...and it wasn't until someone from xda contacted them did they bother to verify this guy's product.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'd be up for that.

In regards to the TS, I tried.

Really? What one?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I know you did. I followed most of your posts throughout this debacle. You did your best to remain neutral and continuously did more to calm the backers than TS.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2562232

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Looks like "The Rock" smart watch just got pulled too ...

http://www.crowdsourcing.org/editor...e-rock-smartwatch-after-backer-concerns/29644
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
I read this somewhere. . Of course a comment...

"The Z-Watch also offers an MP3 Player, walking/jogging pedometer and sleep analyzer, worldwide weather and much more — with an O/S update to work with Apple’s iOS available at the end of January. Smart Devices also launches an App store this month, after accepting hundreds of developer applications in November"

I know the first part of this comment is true.. What about the rest?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
All the features you mention are already on the watch.

The OS update is rumored to be in the form of Kitkat and is expected to be released soon...compatibility with iOS supposedly included.

When? depends on their definition of "soon"...
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Whether ios support is added in kitkat upgrade or not, it doesn't bother me. I use android. I wanted to know whether smart devices is going to open its own app store. ..

By the way I got my watch just now. Have upgraded to 2.5 version.

Got to see how it holds up to my expectations.

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I downloaded 2.5 version from here

http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/Support/Downloads/zwatch/

It is only 75.6 mb

Am I missing something?
[Other SmartWatches] kht202:
I happen to speak directly to an employee of Smart Devices this week and this company is showing impressive progress in advancing a strong platform for this watch. Just look how much has been updated and offered since the watches introduction.

Smart Devices is indeed planning for Android 4.4 Kitkat, most likely available in February -- the same goes for expanding with compatibility for Apple iOS devices, also expected to be available in February.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
The 2.5 version update from http://en.smartdevices.com.cn/Support/Downloads/zwatch/ doesn't have Chinese apps like wechat etc..
[Other SmartWatches] mjkall:
Version 2.5

Thanks for the English version 2.5, I downloaded it. It works fine and it´s full without two Chinish apps. But I found that the BT is interrupting all the time. The bestworking BT and weather sync are in the 2.1 version I think. It is quite easy to transport the two APK´s from the 2.1-version and put them to 2.5-version app (must go to the zip file). I advice to use this (debug must be enabled ofcourse, 4 times About > Model number Z1 ) excellant sync program: moborobo.com

The two apps from 2.1-version are IndroidSyncWatch and IndroidWeather.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
just got my smartq watch

just got my smartq watch that i got from a US reseller with firmware 2.0 already installed on. Anyone have an opinion as to whether i should update to 2.5? what will it get me and how do i download it? the watch is pretty cool but i'm not sure i like it better than my qualcomm toq. the tog gives you full email whereas the smartq only give you email subject line. if they include full email in a later update i will definitely keep it, otherwise i might decide to sell it at some point. just a thought.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
It's been 24 hours on 2.5 version bonded to note 2. No disconnection reminders at all. Just once when I deliberately took the watch away from phone:)

I am in love with this watch. I can say it is the best one can get at such a low price. I paid $104 on pandawill.com inclusive of postage. But it took 24 days to reach me after paying. Glad that I didn't have to pay any custom duty here in india. The package was so much damaged that my address could be barely read. Even the watch box was broken but thankfully watch survived the ordeal of its journey from china to germany to india:D

A few known glitches though.

Call log is empty when bonded to note 2.

Lacks a simple calculator.

Lacks a phone dialer.

Cannot initiate calls from contact list on watch.

Mails and social account messages only show the sender name and not the body of the message.

The usb to audio cable provided is very delicate and may not last long.

Watch failed to alert me about few notifications (3 or 4) from different apps.

Hope these will be fixed in future updates. I dont expect much at this price point. Charging cables are available on smart device online store.

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One more. ..

Needs a good voice based assistant.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I'd really like to hear your opinion on the z watch vs the Toq. I'm thinking about buying a Toq, but I don't want two watches and I'm wondering if it's worth the extra $200.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
Install Z-Watch assistant on your smartphone from http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/ and it has option "System update" (after you bond watch to smartphone with Z-Watch assistant help).
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I think that this comparison is going to be more up to personal preference, than feature set.

The Toq has specifications that are hard to beat when it comes to battery life (a major hurdle in this sector). However, if you want to customize...the Toq could be very limited. If customization is important, the Z will be a better choice.

Overall, both of these watches will do the basics...the Toq really shines in the screen/battery tech. Is that worth $200 to you?

You need to take a look at how you're gonna use it and what would stop you from using it. For some, charging a watch everyday is incomprehensible.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
z watch vs toq and some smartq questions

right now i'm leaning toward the toq its a great watch, automatic updates, gets my mail, messages. very thin on the wrist cause the battery is in the clasp and i get a lot of compliments on the design. i think its worth the $. you can get them used but in perfect condition on ebay from time to time. i paid $270 for it.

i dont know much about the smartq dont even know if i have the right software on the phone its version 1.4.8 is there a newer version? also my weather doesnt seem to update and i have firmware 2.0 and dont know where or how to get to 2.5 or if i should even bother updating it
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Yes 1.4.8 is the newest. And to update the watch just bind it (pair it) to the watch then tap the 3 dot menu and chose system update and let it run.

Does the toq display full gmail?
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
toq vs smartq

got the 2.5 update thanks all. weather app stii doesnt update all the time.

With the toq i get my yahoo mail with no problem i dont see why getting gmail should be any different. if you have questions you can give their customer support a call at 855-GET-1-TOQ (855-438-1867) Monday - Friday, 10am-7pm Eastern Time. ive called them a bunch of times and they are really knowledgeable and really nice. i think they can answer any question anyone can have about the toq. Its a dedicated help line just for the toq watch. PS the battery life is AMAZING! i've gone past 7 days without recharging with regular normal daily usage.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
To be honest, I actually really like this watch though. I love it when people ask me "hey, is that the galaxy watch?" And I say "no, this one is customizable and only cost me $99!"

I only wish I could view my gmail. I rally don't want to pay $250+ just for that. I am hoping smartq pushes an update that allows you to read your email from the watch. For me then this watch would be perfect.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
Well, ADB Android tool is your friend. I got Email.apk from NPM701 tablet collection and installed it in watch. Works! Screen small, of course, polling interval need to be adjusted but works and i was able to read e-mails. I suspect that any non-google generic email can work too.

Actually, you can upload apk via BT cable like storage device and use internal file browser to install, I guess.

I didnt try Exchange.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Does anyone have an earlier version that I could try? I've done a few searches but all the .apk's that I find are not genuine.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
help me please with mail!

i upgraded firmware from2.0 to 2.5 yesterday and now i dont get any mail notifications at all. where with 2.0 i was at least getting a notification that i had mail. i have checked off every possible configuration on the z app on the phone and nothing seems to work. what do i do? should i rollback to 2.0 and see if that helps? if so, how do you do that? help is appreciated
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
The English versions of the firmware are turning out to be a bit tricky. I had some issues yesterday as well. Here's what I did to resolve it.

First, unpair watch and phone. Turn off zwatch. Remove the phone utility and reinstall (don't forget to enable accessibility). Turn on watch. Pair and sync. If you're still having issues, go to watch settings and reapply the update.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
just tried all of the above. even reapplied the update. still no mail. WTF do i do now? this watch is not making me happy. seems to be too many kinks. i may just stick with my TOQ. anyone else with any ideas for me. i really need to at least see what mail comes in.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Phone? Rom? Rooted? Other bt devices? Which mail app are u using?
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
no mail

dont know rom phone is HTC one, not rooted, bluetooth jawbone hd, mail app is yahoo mail. like i said everything was working fine until i upgraded from 2.0 to 2.5
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
In yahoo settings, make sure the notification is set to "show in status bar"
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
yahoo mail

it already is set to show in status bar. i'm running out of options :(
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Are you getting notifications from all other apps...except yahoo?

When you removed the Z phone utility...and then reinstalled, did you have to go in to the sync setting and reset all the ticks on the user/system apps
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
Dont forget to switch smartphone OFF-ON after unistall z-watch assistant. There were some BT connection problems in early versions and they tried to solve it in some weird way later.

Version 2.5/1.4.8 seems to be finally fixed but to run correctly i recommend flipping power on smartphone before you reinstall z-watch assistant.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
mail

getting notifications from other apps like accuweather. when i reinstalled z phone utility. do ALL the user/system apps have to be checked off? i only did the ones i wanted to get notifications from, like mail, weather, messages.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
You did it wrong. The ones that you want notifs from are the ones that should have a check. Go to utility, sync settings, Deselect all, then go and select the ones you want.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
thats what i did the ones i want notifications from are the ones that are checked
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Yes, be sure to do user apps first...then click ok....then go back in and do the system section

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Not sure what the situation is. Have you tried removing/reinstall yahoo? I have an HTC ONE as well...and I have had few issues with connections and getting notifs once I upgraded to 2.5. However, once resolved...the watch has never run better. So, don't give up.

I'll download the yahoo app and see if I get the same thing.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
just did all that. uninstalled z app from phone. shut phone off. turned phone on again. reinstalled z app on phone. paired them. went to notificaticions and checked user apps i wanted: accuweather, yahoo mail. then went to system apps, checked off mail. still nothing
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Ok guys. Some troubleshooting and this latest issue has spurred me too share some things I've noticed. First off , think about the way this watch restores ( NAND burn tool) and the resources it's given to do so. Neither are standard. Updating the entire file structure is an intensive process...even for full spec'd devices.

I've run some tests immediately following an update. First, I did a restore and then started the next update immediately. It failed. Then when I tried rebooting, it went into a bootloop. So I tried different, multiple first-boot interruptions. The outcome, although varied, always had an effect on the stability.

I've found that after a restore, the watch continues the upgrade almost 2-3min post boot. So, in short, if you start playing with it right after an update, some things can get corrupted.

Right now, I've got this watch running the best since I got it. I did a restore, and let the watch sit for 5 min. Did a restart. Then did the same following any update. Now, I have yet to get a false disconnect, notifications are prompt, watch is responsive, and I have yet to miss a call or msg.

In conclusion, the saying "good things will come to those who wait"...just may have merit in this case.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Is there any way too transfer files wireless from my phone (note 2) to the z watch. Its a pain to carry around charging cable and search a computer to transfer files from my phone to watch.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Load Airdroid onto your watch. Once you do that you can transfer files via wifi as long as you have a network to connect to.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Thank you. Will try that
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Thank [MENTION=4564365]SumCanadianGuy[/MENTION] he gave me the idea. I hope it works for you.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
nail

so does anyone else have any ideas as to how i can get my yahoo mail back to appear on the phone? now im just getting fed up.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
First off, thank you for that compete explanation, but I do have a question. Is the system framework needed for any Google apps? For example, I don't really want playstore, but I do need Gmail. When I just sideload the apk it wont work. If I do need the framework, where do I get it? Can I just pull it from my phone?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Thanks for the share. Most of us had playstore working in October...read back in this thread. Just rather not give up the resources to run gapps. Now, with SmartQ releasing Kitkat for the watch within the next few weeks...most customization has halted till then. Anyways, sounds like you are enjoying your new toy....cool...this watch continues to impress.