yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
In the beginning, I thought the same thing. I figured there had to be a reason for this extra space... so, these are the questions I proposed to the custom battery vendors. First, there's no airflow in a system this small...so overheating is not an issue. Second, open your phone (if u can)...you'll see the battery is molded exact to the available space.

After reviewing the watch specs with them, they estimate SmartQ is paying ~$1-$2 per battery....if they were to go to a custom battery....it would be closer to $8-$10. On paper, for a device that costs less than $50 to manufacture...spending +20-25% of that on a battery doesn't make sense (again, on paper... most likely using smart phone market figures and analysis). Smart watches are not phones...and most likely will require a different ROI once the market begins to form and we understand the consumer/wearable relationship a little better. Unfortunately, new power pack technology and innovation requires a rigorous and lengthy safety pre-production period prior to mass distribution. This is a HUGE issue facing wearables and IMO, could be a major factor in it's success or failure.... batteries can no longer be the afterthought.

Simply put....currently the biggest consumer complaint about wearables is lack of batt life. This, in turn, should be the OEMs biggest hurdle.
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
It works for me, installed it from play store.

My problem is that it doesn't show my location, shouldn't it get it from the phone?

In location settings it says location determined by wifi, but at location services Google location is disabled and I can't change it. It might need some google services apk?

In Maps it tells me to enable a my location source in system settings
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
It seems like that. Quickinstaller doesn't see them. I have installed ES file explorer and its app manager doesn't see them either.

So how do I even disable them

Has anyone used the preinstalled Cofit app, Basically it is apedometer. What's odd is that it says I have taken 2500 steps today and altogether (I have just started it), but for the weekly steps it says 460, what's with that?
[Other SmartWatches] sam013:
need original with brand smart watches

hi I need help I want to purchase a big quantity of the smart mobile watches of android 2.2 and 4.0 like the z1 and s5 any idea about those ?!! I have bought some from china but its a copy it didn't work on our sim network rules don't allow it must be original brand how can I find such things and original plz if any one have an answer let me know and u can always email me at samakl50@hotmail.com to guide me more about the originality of the android products so I understand it thx﻿
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
To disable the apps, use a third party app manager, one that recognizes even system apps. Locate the apps you want to "remove" and touch one of them. It should take you to the app settings. From there you can choose disable. Then you will no longer see those apps in your app "drawer", even after a reboot.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Why would you like to have gmaps on watch?!?!?!

But i dont know whether small gapps is sufficient to run maps on this THIS tiny watch.

/system/framework/com.google.android.maps.jar is present in the update.zip which i have posted. but that seems to be not sufficient to run maps.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Its tricky to scroll on watch with fingers. ES explorer definitely sees those system apps which you can disable. I have done so. have a look at the following picture, a snapshot from my phone. the space shown under black arrow is tiny tiny tiny window on watch. may be a mm high. carefully scroll in that tiny window to hit system apps. you will get to disable what you want to.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Thank you, that really helped.

I did so many nonsense things on my watch, just this could have helped. But unfortunately i had missed your reply.
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
Thanks, I found that I have to change category to Sysapps.

Is there any way to get to the settings of ES explorer? It seems to have an option to browse over bluetooth?
[Other SmartWatches] Gandalf-LoJ:
I've just received one of these and after updating to v3 those chinese apps were annoying me. Easy to remove them completely as I've just done it. These are the steps I took. HOWEVER: As with all these things, you do so at your own risk!

Open update.zip with winrar or another app that allows browsing of archive files.

Browse to system\app

delete com.tencent.mm.apk (WeChat app)

and delete cn.yunzhisheng.assistant.smartdevices.apk (That's the circle on the first page with chinese chars)

Save zip, copy to watch and update firmware. Once the watch boots the apps will still be there, but then do a factory reset, wiping everything and after that reboot they will be gone.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
com.google.android.maps.jar (+other stuff from your update like permissions) is enough to rum gmaps, it shows maps.

Location doesn't work.
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
Good news everyone!

If you were looking for a good toggle widget here is one:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.elixir.widget

You can fore example place 3x3 toggles/shortcuts etc on one page, even battery stuff if you want. Custom brightness and timeout modes even
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
That is an exact problem with 3.0

On 2.5 anything works fine, so I restored back 1.8, no I asm going again to 2.5 via updates.
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
yeah and BT keyboards don't work either

I really hope they fix these

BTW you can get to otherwise unreachable system settings with Elixir like Apps, Battery etc

Another thing: Did anyone use the watch underwater? Someone in another topic said it has to be returned because some watervapor got through the jack hole
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Had anyone tried the BT tethering option added in v3.0?
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
I mentioned about it the day 3.0 was released. It tethers. But it doesn't get Internet.
[Other SmartWatches] rjh1:
Does anyone know where to buy a longer charge cable? I would like one that is 10ft (3m) long

Rick
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
just get a usb extender

Where does everyone stand with Gmail now? I only get the sender's name along with the notif. Is there any way to get the subject as well at least?

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I am thinking about going back to 2.5 as well. What would I miss from 3.0, what is not in 2.5?

ANd why not just download the official english 2.5 update.zip and run fw update?
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
I dont know about miss, I spent too small time on 3.0

But putting 2.5 update.zip doesnt work, it doesnt do this kind of downgrade.

I used restore tool first, it through me back to 1.8 and z-watch tool suggested me upgrade directly to 2.5, skipping all version in a middle. It worked, I am now again on 2.5 with old z-watch tool in smartphone.
[Other SmartWatches] besworks:
Awesome! This is exactly what I was looking for. Good find! :good:
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
Can you describe how to revert back to 1.8? I've done these things with phones but it was a while ago.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
i've also decided to stay at 2.5 until they come out with a eng version of 3.0 that has more than a few minor changes to it and Kit Kat is more proven. As mghtymse007 said to me "if it aint broke, why fix it" 2.5 works just fine.
[Other SmartWatches] rjh1:
Thanks but I already have a extender cable. I want a second cable and I want it long so why buy 2 cables when I could just buy 1????

Rick
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
Install on your Windows host an utility

http://west.homelinux.net/npm701/setup-restory-tool.exe

and run it. It will say that to do and reflash your Z1 with 1.8

(Take in mind the broken English name of tool and use it as is - it is Chinese)
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Hotmid after dhl shipping would cost me about 125 I may go that route thanks for your reply
[Other SmartWatches] vaccdroid:
I see you can't get gmail on the watch but can u get alerts that u have a email and also if you sync it to calendar and weather can it get your Google calendar sync on phone and the weather you have synced on phone. I assume no on weather since I am reading only 4 cities. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
That's was v1.5. Now they have the states too. Have not checked to see what our how many have been added, but CA has now sf, SD LA, and San Jose. You can add GO weather... Works coverage on that one, but will have to run app. There is a widget, but it looks funny and off center.

As far as gmail, I do have aqua installed. Works only when connected to Wi-Fi. Which is interesting because the yahoo mail app syncs thru BT.

Bottom line, we are only in the first few weeks of discovery on this device. So far, this watch is more than capable to do more than what is stock. Personally, I am shocked at the rate this tech is advancing. A flagship smartphone 1.5 yrs old carries the same specs. At least on paper.... Impressive.

BTW. Successfully have made, received, answered, rejected, and conversed thru the watch via Groove IP... now I know what the Omate feels like...lol
[Other SmartWatches] vaccdroid:
Thanks. I am debating this watch and as soon as it can get Gmail and New Jersey weather I may buy it. Reviews seem great and at $99 could be a steal.

The app that goes on the phone is not in the app store and needs to be downloaded and side loaded on the phone ? Just checking .
[Other SmartWatches] demonhater:
Like mghtymse007 has already shared, you download the app to your phone using the barcode in the manual and the app pairs the phone to your watch. The app also has the settings for what you sync and allows you to send text from the phone to the watch. One of the new updates included a lot if not most US cities. I'm in Lawrence, KS and it was included.

I'm with mghtymse007 on how impressed I am with this watch...especially for such an early version. Smartq is updating the software super regularly and we haven't even seen what the real hackers are going to accomplish once they get their hands on it. Smartq has already added a file browser and a widget to control the media on your phone...and that was just in the last couple of days. Hopefully this watch will get into the hands of some developers real soon.

I got mine from smartqme.com for 125 bucks which included express shipping. It was here from Hong Kong in 3 days.
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
Just ordered one from smartqme dhl shipping 126 bucks ...super excited

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Also how is nova launcher on this thing? I know u said it had widget support ...is it functional this way?.....maybe u can upload a short clip demonstrating it ..also don't u think pie controls would work great instead of the side back button
[Other SmartWatches] demonhater:
I got Google accounts to work. Gmail, Play Store, Google Now with voice search, Calendar, etc is all working. All I did was copy the google apps from the latest gapps for 4.1 to system/app in the update.zip and did a firmare upgrade. After the watch rebooted, I opened Play and it asked me to sign in. After that, I noticed some of the apps were crashing so I updated them in Play and they all worked. I'll post links for the gapps apks and my own update.zip if you want to try it. Disclaimer: I'm not a developer by any means. I just know enough to be dangerous Ha! So if you decide to...use at your own risk. That said, it definitely worked for me.

As far as PIE, that's really cool! I'd never come across it before. It works great on the watch. I set it to the bottom with a narrow touch area. It also had a sync option under settings which is where I figured out that there was an accounts settings on the watch. I was able to adjust my Google account and Twitter to set it to sync etc.

Nova is cool and I may use it, but I kind of like the simplicity of the built in launcher on such a small screen. It allows widgets too. I'll try to find time this weekend to post a vid about the watch.

Now to figure out Youtube.

gapps apks

update zip
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
wow, very nice

can Gmail on the watch gets its mail through its connection with your phone?

I don't always have WiFi...
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Good job!! You best me to it, as i just did the same thing. Still crashing a bit. One big addition that i found very useful, due to no way to kill tasks, is watchdog. Good program for monitoring your resources.

So far, no. Only works when Wi-Fi is enabled. But, I do have the watch paired with a phone that is not cell connected... Only wlan. So I can't comment on that. [MENTION=220053]Demon[/MENTION], you had any luck with BT sync on the Google apps?

Nova is interesting for sure, but the small screen prevents too much from working properly. IMHO, the watch launcher is the way to go. Any widgets included with a program do show up and are functional. With this launcher, the widgets are solely located to the left of the clock face.
[Other SmartWatches] shammc:
Hi folks

I can't wait to get my hands on this whilst I wait for Omate to get their act together and send me my watch on time.

a big question I have is I ordered from smartq on 1st Nov and I got conformation of dhl tracking number on the 4th.

but every time I check on dhl website the number comes back as not found.is this normal ? When should I receive my watch .

ps I'm in the UK

So far, no. Only works when Wi-Fi is enabled. But, I do have the watch paired with a phone that is not cell connected... Only wlan. So I can't comment on that. [MENTION=220053]Demon[/MENTION], you had any luck with BT sync on the Google apps?

Nova is interesting for sure, but the small screen prevents too much from working properly. IMHO, the watch launcher is the way to go. Any widgets included with a program do show up and are functional. With this launcher, the widgets are solely located to the left of the clock face.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
When a package is sent from China, due to our restricted access to their infrastructure, packages sent will not show up in tracking systems until they reach a hub outside Asia.

Be patient... I know your excited... But look at what really awaits... Neck pain, no sleep, mini-bricks, heavy praying...I could go on...

But Ya know ...when your successful at getting something to work, no better feeling!!!
[Other SmartWatches] johnny_profitt:
emulators

Hey I was wondering if someone could test some game emulators on this. I am mostly interested in gba.

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
Have you tried tracking it using the HK site not the global site?

http://www.dhl.com.hk/en/express/tracking.html

super excited about this watch, i was aiming at getting the sony sm2, but apparently a lot of people are complaining, so I will get this toy and play with it till a real solid smart watch comes out (iWatch or Google Nexus Gem)
[Other SmartWatches] Artimis:
I just bought a Motoactv to hold me over until something from google was announced and now I find this........doh.

Interested to know if tablet talk works with this.

Also what is the CoFit app like?
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Haven't tired TT. But the cofit app is decent. Nothing like some of the Nike and Moto apps, but it does the basics. BUT... both the fit and sleep apps eat the battery...
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
The silver one is gorgeous !! only red, blue, and black were in the store though, and only black was in stock

the blue is more like violate, if it was deep dark blue I would have gone for it

I have also seen some old news about them releasing a new watch named smartQ W1, .. I wonder if this is it but they have changed the name or a new one is coming in few days lol

http://liliputing.com/2013/09/smart-devices-w1-smartwatch-coming-month.html

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=497530

http://thedroidguy.com/2013/09/smart-devices-w1-smartwatch-arriving-month/
[Other SmartWatches] demonhater:
I assume the best we'll get as far as bluetooth syncing to gapps is to figure out bluetooth tethering. It'd use less battery than wifi but I'm not sure how much less. I've been looking for an app that might trick the watch into showing more advance bluetooth settings. The bluetooth stack in the watch may not allow tethering presently. There appears to be some limitations with it...I can send a file from the watch to phone using bluetooth, but not the other way around. I also think getting root might instantly allow some more options. When I try to do certain things such as 'menu' with Pie it says that root is required.

mghtymse007 have you tried rooting with oneclick or android root unlock?

It hasn't worked for me. It says the drivers aren't installed and it won't let me install the generic google adb drivers.

I haven't tried the gba emulator or tablet talk yet... but I will. TT looks really interesting....will report back.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I have not tried yet....as I have yet to figure out how to get into the boot loader. One I know I can recover from a mini-brick, then I will go deeper.

There a couple of apps that supposedly can route traffic to what/where you want... just haven't had the time to check real would use b4 i install.

Have not tried TT. Tried a couple of different emulators... Btw did you see the post on how to enable/disable USB debugging?
[Other SmartWatches] Deadbeef:
Watch to be smartphone companion or more?

I have a feeling that a lot of people want a smartwatch to be a smartphone replacement.

Maybe that is why most smartwatches fail to meet the expectations.

In this thread I just saw a question if there are gameboy emulators available for this watch?

For me that smartwatch needs to inform me of the important events on my phone, and enable me to perform the most frequent actions from my wrist.

These action are : Looking up contacts, making/accepting calls, reading emails and other messages, voice activated commands/text input. These and the standard watch functions like time, stopwatch, timer and alarm are all I need.

And a beautiful selectable clockface is the cherry on the pie.

How do you think about this?

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And for the disapointed fans that could only get a black edition of this watch; how about this watchband?

http://www.ebay.nl/itm/22mm-Black-R...?pt=US_Watch_Bands&hash=item565d943f6f&_uhb=1
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
Nice watchband

I do not expect a smartwatch to replace my phone, why would i watch youtube on a 1.5/1.6 inch screen if i have a phone with 5 inch screen? (or on my tablet's 10.1 inch), same goes for webbrowsing, reading news/mail/twitter, etc.

What i expect from a smartwatch (top 5 are must have):

-at least 4-5 days of battery life, charging each day is not an option

-a lot of choice in watch faces, being able to design them myself would be the ultimate, all of them should show time+date, extra info like weather would be nice (like min/max temp for the day)

-thin, 8mm should be the max

-selectable screen timeout if the screen is backlit (on the SW2 it's too short)

-show important mail/whatsapp/twitter/facebook notifications (from people i find important)

-battery low alert (on phone, not that my Butterfly s has run out of juice lately)

-silence my phone when the watch is connected, normal sound profile when not

-answer/handle/dismiss calls would be nice, dismiss call with auto whatsapp would be ideal (also see below)

-"forgot phone" alert and "find phone" function

-nice to have: voice commands, using google now

-this one won't be possible for quite some time: payments through nfc

About answering calls, before i ordered my current watch, the Smartwatch 2, i pledged for 2 other watches on kickstarter/indiegogo, namely the Kreyos Meteor and the HOT Watch.

I lost my patience waiting for those two, so i got the sw2, but am very disappointed, mainly by the choice in watch faces, but also by the lack of support (so far) by Sony

How the HOT Watch handles calls seems ideal to me, so i'm still looking forward to that watch, will have to see how it performs in other areas.

The Z-watch does a lot of these things, but of course not all, i don't really expect to find the perfect smartwatch.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
In the spirit of sharing...I was bored today and decided to try out the v3.0 update...and now DO I wish I DIDN'T!! Nothing but problems since...stay on 2.5 for the time being
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Can you please elaborate on the problems you are facing with 3.0. There are no changes from 2.5 to 3.0. At the same time there are no new issues that have propped up with 3.0. Only issue being, you can't uninstall Chinese apps as they have been pushed add system app. But they can be disabled.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
First of all, I put a lot of time into finding a solution that would get rid of the Asian, health and sleep apps with zero luck. Quite frustrating. But once I was quit and attempted a straight (no mod) restore/update, this is what I experienced:

1) watch lock ups prior to boot animation after applying 3.0 update.

2) screen/panel transitions slow and choppy

3) zero notifications

4) random bt disconnects (not due to distance)

5) Utility 1.4.9 FCs

6) contacts/call log not syncing

7) apps don't load as quick as in 2.5

I was able to get most of the above fixed and is now, at least, functioning. The watch is still slower and less responsive than with e2.5. I noticed that 3.0 does requires less resources to run...which should make it faster...

On a good note, with updates rolling out consistently, it won't be long before SmartQ or maybe a dev optimizes this ROM.

But for now, the risk outweighs the benefit...IMO
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
Sorry to tell you. I don't have any of the issues you have mentioned. All I did was reflash using restore tool. Put in the update.zip (I am using stock3.0 with gapps) and upgraded and performed a factory reset. Disabled chinese apps with es file explorer. On the phone side uninstalled 1.4.8, rebooted phone and installed 1.4.9 and bound with the watch. It's working just fine.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
I know two - location framework doesn't work and BT keyboard can be connected now but doesn't work either.

I didn't have time to explore more, returned back to 2.5 too fast.
[Other SmartWatches] techgeek191:
Hey guys. No better place to put this but I am selling my z watch. Black. Great condition. 2.5 w/ Google play. I will sell it for 86 dollars. Pm Me for details. Will only use PayPal for my protection and yours. Thanks guys.
[Other SmartWatches] timtop:
You can only use 2nd generation ipod shuffle cable as a replacment for the zwatch cable - only the second generation cable can charge

and

sync data.

The longest cable that I can find being sold on ebay is 2 ft long (search "ipod shuffle cable 2nd gen (or gen 2)"):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2FT-USB-CABLE-SYNC-CHARGER-CORD-for-IPOD-SHUFFLE-1ST-2ND-GEN-/400642261251?pt=US_Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item5d4823c103

As jamesch said, you can also buy a "USB extender cable" (google "USB A male to USB A female cable") to stretch the length of the short charge sync cable.
[Other SmartWatches] mjkall:
Thanks! Works fine. My SQZ became slower and slower. Changed the SmartLancher and did not work anymore. Very important to upgrade 1.8>1.9>2 etc.
[Other SmartWatches] mjkall:
Actually qyite easy to delete the Asian, health and sleep apps. Use Winrar: First ofcourse transport the update.zip to the clipboard of the PC. The Winrar cannot made changes in the SmartQ-Z, When everything is OK, transport the update.zip back to the watch, Use File and Commands on the topline and ADD under , when You add apps to the update.zip. I underlined the apps that I deleted. I took the Watchwidget and "borrowed" to earlier version, I actually use 2.1. The Z1BurnTool is fine, my SQZ became so slow after trying dozens of apps. They maybe left something that made it slower and slower.