yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I with you guys on this one too . It's nice to know ya got a msg...but the whole point was to leave the phone in your pocket...not have to check two screens!

I notice that the watch's notifications are not consistent. For example, Tapatalk is all over the place...sometimes all I get is the tap logo...sometimes just the member name...and sometimes I get the all the info seen in the status bar. So...yes...the watch is capable...it's the sync software that is lacking.

I know in the 4.3 release an api was added..."Notification Access". This it's supposed to provide third party apps and hardware access to status bar notifs. If you have 4.3, try enabling that..

Side note: (If you do enable the notification access, I have read that having this and accessibility is not recommended...)
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I'm wondering if when they measure they count the "seams" that kinda fold up along the edges? If that is the case we might be able to squeeze that 600 in there.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Lol...As much as I would love to agree, I think it is highly doubtful. But if even there is a slight chance that it will fit....I'd do the legwork. It's worth it if we can double the capacity vs. a 50% increase.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Is there anything we can "borrow" from this? I'm not a developer, just came across it. http://forums.getpebble.com/discuss...-for-pebble-ultimate-notification-replacement
[Other SmartWatches] leuenbrewco:
Battery Monitor Widget Pro

I noticed the stock Battery % remaining widget seems to lock up, and only way to see current is to remove and re-add it as mghtymse007 has said. For the hell of it, I installed the latest Batter Monitor Widget Pro APK. It uses a little RAM (Currently ~8%ish), but provides a lot more info on useage. There are a few widget choices that will show, you can use a remote keyboard to update the battery capacity number (app comes stock at 1000mAh). When you tap on the widget to see more information/go to settings, there may be a slight bit of text that doesn't fit on the screen, but you should still easily be able to understand. Will report back with findings after I put some time on this app today. Happy New Year you guys!
[Other SmartWatches] v-angel:
notification access?

Where is this notification access? I use note 2 vs 4.3 and I can't find it.

But I solve my problems using both devices tablet talk that give me contacts that I can make calls threw the watch or recall the already. Have anyone test it?
[Other SmartWatches] jimlivingston:
Yes. Can anyone confirm if Endomondo works on this? Also, do these or do they not have GPS. I read that some do and some don't? For those that do not, can you check to see if BT GPS works?

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
The GPS data is fed from the phone to the watch. The watch itself, does not have the GPS hardware. I have tested multiple apps that require GPS...almost all functioned properly...even mapping programs.
[Other SmartWatches] jimlivingston:
Excellent. Thank you. I could live with that, if it will install and run Endomondo natively.

Anyone willing to test it? Please.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I really like the bluetooth disconnect alert, but it notifies me all the time that bluetooth is disconnected even though the watch and the phone are right next to each other.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Mine does that a few times a day too. My phone battery lasts about twice as long now that I'm not turning the screen on everytime I hear a sound.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Yeah, I'm getting the same thing. But it happens more than a few times a day...I would say I get a false alert about 5-10/day. I also noticed that when a true disconnect is triggered...the watch disconnects and connects multiple times before it's stable. I think I like the app bluetooth notify, more than the stock notification system. The app allows for you to customize the vibration alert which helps distinguish between a disconnect and notification. Another interesting app that I found is called bluetooth unlocker. This app unlocks your phone when the bluetooth is connected and locks your phone when the Bluetooth. I found this to be a nice feature so you have to enter your PIN every time

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Can one of you that is running 2.4...go to settings and see if you can get the REMIND options menu open? Mine FCs settings...
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I have only ever used 2.4 and mine always FC.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Mine does as well.
[Other SmartWatches] Xelloss78:
FC happens because the last firmware contains a new option string in the Remind settings but it has no the English translation. Therefore if you change the language to Chinese, the Remind section will open successfully.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Oddly and badly enough after I clicked remind and it FCed about 5 - 10 minutes later the phone started making a hell of a racket. Odd as the phone was on vibrate only, it didn't indicate what made it scream - I can only assume the Remind thing.

Bad as it happened just as my wife got the 10 week old to sleep for a nap and I got the 3 year old down. A rare event indeed for naps to align and big trouble if it had woken them. They stayed asleep though and the phone and watch survived another day...
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Something else slightly annoying I've noticed is that if I turn the watch off for night when I turn it on in the morning it vibrates like crazy as if it's getting all the notifications from when it was off synced to it at once.
[Other SmartWatches] turbo74:
New FW

Hi all, new Firmware is out (V.2.5)!
[Other SmartWatches] santa.phatt:
this watch will support iOS after their 4.4(kitkat) update.which will happen in one weeks time!
[Other SmartWatches] turbo74:
..are you sure there will be an update to 4.4?
[Other SmartWatches] juggamonkey:
2.5 has removed my transparent led clock I liked it's still there just not transparent no more
[Other SmartWatches] cyberlite:
usb debug enable.

Hi all, Just found this out, to set the z-watch into debugging mode enable just go to settings--> about-->model number z1. tap couple of times and thats it... :D
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I'm sure this has been asked before, but since this is my first update, does it update like normal Android or will it remove all my side loaded apps?
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
You need a modern phone which has BT Low Energy support. It seems like mine HTC1 hasn't that problem.

Or switch OFF that notification in 2.5 (or 2.4... in Chinese :)
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I am using a Galaxy Note 3, and others experiencing the same thing are using newer phones as well. It's cool that you can now turn it off, but I like the notifications, just don't want it to tell me bluetooth has been disconnected when it hasn't.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
If you do 2.5 update OTA, it is just incremental update and it is definitely doesn't delete your apps.

If you download it from smartdevices.com.cn/support/download/Z1/ then it is a full update. It may destroy user data, at least in theory, but I doubt it does.

I suspect that if you use then it it will be the next base for restore point by recovery tool.

Don't forget, you need a fully charged battery or connect it to charger/USB to prevent update failure (our Chinese friends forgot to write that it is stop-gap for updates and bothered me too much, I did multiple resets - and destroyed my apps - to pass update).

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Hm-m, can you check that your phone setting has BLE switched on (BT power saving)?
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Power saving mode is not on, is that what you mean? I don't see a power saving option in bluetooth settings.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Installed the OTA kept all my apps which is good. Rearranged all my widgets, easy fix. I had uninstalled the Chinese currents app and we chat. It put them back on and I'm now unable to uninstall them.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
Sorry, my mistake. I will repeat my observation with HTC1.
[Other SmartWatches] cyberlite:
es file explorer

I Installed es file explorer and used it to uninstall those programs.:good:
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I tried 3 different app managers and they don't show up in the list of installed apps
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
You have to remove those apps from the system/app folder BEFORE you update. You can do this by adding .bak to the apk.
[Other SmartWatches] ardaalisahin:
I have bought this smartwatch from pandawill for 94,44$.It will come in stocks next week and my cargo will be shipped next week so.I am really excited about it really deserves its money or not.

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[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
bluetooth headset and smartq

just ordered the smartq z watch from a us reseller should be here tues. question. will my jawbone hd bluetooth headset work while the phone is connected via bluetooth to my htc one at the same time? i had an i'm watch and everytime the bluetooth on the watch connected with the phone it disconnected my headset. didnt do it with my pebble or qualcomm toq. Just wondering if anybody had any issues with the watch and using a bluetooth headset at same time.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
I was able to have my headset, Bose ext speaker and HTC connected without a hitch. Good luck!

Btw: how do you like your Toq?
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
updates

do you have to apply the firmware upgrades one at a time or can you just upgrade to the latest one? if not where can you find the english versions of all the firmware upgrades? ps i love my toq
[Other SmartWatches] v-angel:
Work fine

I use note 2 and the headset samsung HM1200 and HM1500 with no problem at all!i work very nice and I answer even from watch.no issues!
[Other SmartWatches] cyberlite:
I first rooted the watch with kingo android root," you have to put the debugging on", then install ES file app, the goto app manager on the ES file app itself, and uninstall, easy. :silly::good:
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
Hi everyone

I am planning on buying one of these, but I have a few questions. I started reading back but it is a long topic :)

So mostly I would like to use the watch to handle music playing on the phone, check endomondo easier while running and see notifications througout the day without having to turn on the phone.

My question is can all these be done at least to some extent?

What effect would this have on the battery life of my phone, being in constant BT connection? I have an HTC oneX so I don't have BT LE unfortunately.

How long does the battery last on the phone? I've read that some of you complained not even lasting a day, that doesnt sound very good.

Oh and I forgot sleep tracking. Can it be done? I am using Sleep as Android sometimes to wake me up at the right time, it'd be great if I could just use the watch with it.

I've also read that internet access doesn't go through the BT connection to the smartwatch. Does it need its own app on the phone to send the notifications?

thanks in advance, would help alot if these could be cleared up before ordering my watch
[Other SmartWatches] alvanyap:
1. you can handle music on your phone via watch's music widget (which serve only for control your phone's music)

2. sadly now as i know the endomondo is not support for this watch yet

3. you will receive alll the notification you wish which appeared in your phone's pull down menu (and, it's only notification like your phone appear in the pulldown menu)

4. my phone is Xperia S, not much different for me with the BT on all the time

5. if u turn on the auto light option & wifi with constantly message & vibration comes in it will max last for 1 day (in my case)

6. im not sure what's sleep tracking you are talking bout
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
All fine and good, but I didn't have to do that on 2.4. I just uninstalled them. No root, no removing them from the update.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Seems like the Z-Watch Aide app update to v1.4.8 might fix these spurious Bluetooth drop outs:

Update:

1 Adjust assistant upgrade prompt mechanism

2. Fixed some Bluetooth mobile phone connection problems

http://www.smartdevices.com.cn/zh.html
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I'll try it out today and report what I find.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Can someone who can get album art to show up on the music player widget test player pro and see if it works for them? I've tried 3 different music apps on my S3 and none of them send artwork to the watch. Want to know if it's my phone or watch or app or what is at fault. Tried player pro, play music and stock music player.
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
So far no disconnect warnings :)
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I got 3 or 4 today. I wasn't directly beside my phone but was still getting notifications like normal
[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
Weird, I kept my phone in my pocket like I always do, and nothing.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
It doesn't seem to matter...I had the phone in my hand today and got the disconnect. And that's just a few inches! I also am getting the disconnect notif 4-5/day. I updated the phone utility to the latest, but have yet to update to v2.5. Didn't see anything in the changelog that would make me think it's been fixed...thought it was fixed in v2.4...? I have tried apps like Bluetooth Auto Connect...minor improvement. On a good note, I have found that restarting the watch daily greatly improves system performance.
[Other SmartWatches] pox67:
Installed PlayerPro and started a song. Watch had disconnected (see below) so I restarted it and the album art was there straight away.

You are sliding to the left to get to the music player? As there is one from the apps page that plays music from the actual watch.

What phone and OS version are you using?

Might be best to have someone with the same combination test.

Still getting disconnects and also the watch has turned OFF Bluetooth a couple of times today...so much worse!

I am on 1.4.8 for the app and 2.5 for the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Yes I'm using the widget. It shows track info and I can control the phone. Galaxy S3 with 4.3
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
I have been following this thread since it started. I like this watch. I have ordered one from pandawill.com.... its been a month and is still in transit.. never mind, I will get it sooner or later.

I was using sony smart wireless headset pro for one year and it worked flawlessly with my note 2.

but after the 4.3 update, it used to get disconnected frequently from the phone. That issue made me suspect the headset and stop using it.. so I opted switch to this watch.

Actually I stumbled across this thread and this watch while searching for a remedy to this issue.

But after reading many of you complaining about random disconnections I doubt the 4.3 update on samsung galaxy note phones itself. As it happened with my headsets too.

and about album art not being showing up... its the issue with samsung phones... it happens with my car stereo too.
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
After reading through most of the topic:

1 Is it better to order from smartq directly or pandawill? Has anyone ordered to MIddle/Eastern Europe, how much time did it take to get here?

2 Do most of you use the watch with the latest FW or rooted with an earlier (there is no root for the newer ones as I understood)?

3 I've received a response that Endomondo doesn't work. Is it the MIPS or the screen size? Can we get it to work? Any other similar apps that do work?

4 Sleep tracking is the measurement of your sleep cycles by movement. If the alarm sounds when you are in light sleep it is better to wake up. I can see in some review videos there is a built in app for sleep analysis. Anyone tried that? Can it wake you up?

5 Has anyone ordered a bigger battery to try it out?
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
I cant recommend pandawill.com. ... its been a month since I ordered. I opted Hongkong Fedex speed post to be shipped to India. 2 days later they contacted me saying it was not possible to ship through fedex. God knows the reason. I opted deutsche post instead. The difference amount in shipping was refunded to my account. They took a week to pack and 3 more days to ship. I have been tracking for last 20 days and it is still at Frankfurt. I don't know why it went to frankfurt on the way to India. May be it was deutsche post. Today on enquiry they have asked me to wait 29 days.

No idea about smartq site.

But I think shipping to europe will be faster on both if you choose express delivery.
[Other SmartWatches] habibjamil:
I also ordered from Pandawill to Saudi Arabia. Paid by PayPal and the amount was withdrawn immediately. My order is still showing "Processing". I contacted them and was told that it would be available next week.

I just hope so.
[Other SmartWatches] turbo74:
I ordered directly from Smartq, payed with PayPal and chose DHL fast shipping: 3 days form China to Italy...!
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
What can the built in microphone be used for? Can you dictate to google search for example or installing swype+dragon and dictate messages for example?

I'm bummed that the watch sw doesn't work with OK Google at the same time, is that still the case?

I am also hoping to get some answers on the below questions

thanks
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
So far I have not come across any thing on the phone that makes use of the mic. May be people who side loaded additional apps could have found its utility.
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
Do a factory reset on your Note 2. I had a lot of issues with my wireless/bluetooth devices after 4.3 update on Note 2. Everything is working now after factory reset. Make sure to back up everything, and it's still PITA to configure everything back the way it was before. But reset definitely fixed all my wireless accessories problems.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Answers to above:

1. Lately both vendors have been struggling with keeping this watch in stock. I live in US...so I can't comment on shipping personally, but I have read that once shipped, it took 3 days to reach Italy and the UK was 5 days.

2. You can gain root with any update by utilizing geek78's mods.

3. I dont use Endomondo, nor any fitness app. But most apps have issues with the screen size more than any other. Many times, vital parts of the app are unreachable due to the 240x240 resolution. In regards to a fix... I spoke with a couple devs over the holidays...either an app has to be written or Endo has to step up. A rumor has recently popped up that SmartQ is releasing a Kitkat update for the z-watch THIS week...so, we'll see what happens.

4. The sleep app does not have an alarm that I can find....

5. A couple if us here in XDA have thrown around the idea of installing a bigger battery. I am researching a 600mAh that I found...seeing if it will fit in the watch cavity. otherwise, the only battery we have found that will fit for sure, is a 450mAh. Before we can attempt this mod tho, we do need to know what the discharge rate is on the stock battery.
[Other SmartWatches] drmpk:
I did reset. Not once but twice. Its the same. It appears to work for sometime and then the issue starts to surface again.

For that matter, my friend purchased a brand new note 2. We did directly update it ota to 4.3 the latest ml4 in india. After that we did a factory reset and guess what. .. When we tried my headset pro on it, the issue remains.

The problem is present even with my mono bluetooth headset.

This being a thread for smartq z watch lets not dig deep in to sammy's bluetooth bug... or is it android 4.3's bug?????
[Other SmartWatches] ardaalisahin:
I have bought this watch from pandawill and waiting for being shipped.I want ask that how is battery performance of this watch.Is there anyone using it with nexus 4?Anyone using it with android 4.4 operating phone with bluetooth 4?I wonder the battery performance over bluetooth 4.

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[Other SmartWatches] ofsinreno:
I was using mine for a while with my Galaxy Nexus running 4.4 with 0 compatibility issues. Can't speak to battery performance over 4.4 with bt4 though because the GNex doesn't use it.
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
I was talking to dx.com, and they are looking into getting SmartQ Z in stock as well. Not sure when, but I'm checking every day :) They usually get the best pricing and the fastest shipping based on my previous experience dealing with them.
[Other SmartWatches] kernelsegment:
The stock application with unspeakable 4-symbol Chinese name, blue bagel icon and APK name cn.yunzhisheng.assistant.smartdevices.apk is actually voice search app like Siri. Unfortunately, it seems like it understands only Chinese.
[Other SmartWatches] dannycamps:
I ordered mine on December 3rd from FastCardTech.com. The watch was shipped from their warehouse on December 9th and I had it in my hands on December 19th. This was using EMS shipping with expected delay for the holidays. They did guarantee that I would have the watch before Christmas.

For the most part, the experience with them was good. As we got more into December, I would email them every other day looking for status updates and they responded quickly. Some language issues but nothing worse than you would see reading comments on YouTube :laugh:

-DJ
[Other SmartWatches] lambstone:
Has anyone managed to get whatsapp notifications working?
[Other SmartWatches] bpcooper14:
Just got my watch in the mail today. Couple of quick questions. How do we get rid of wechat and the Chinese app? How do we add any apps to the watch? I've lost track after reading through all the different threads and tried to find an answer before I asked. Thanks in advance for any of your help!!!!
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I get notifications from whatsapp but it just tells you who the message is from. Same thing with email and Gmail and kik.

I was looking at that 600mah battery you linked to and it said minimum order of 1,000 units.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
All of those batteries are bulk purchases...however, they will do a small sample order of 5 our less...
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
If we think they will work I'm in. I'll PayPal you the money for one.
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Actually I just got the email back fin then about an hour ago. I opened up the watch to get a solid measure on the cavity. With the headphone jack and sensors, all we have is 26mmx29mm. So that one won't work...what was the measure on the 450?
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
Here is a screenshot. They say they do custom sizes too
[Other SmartWatches] mghtymse007:
Looks like we're gonna have to go custom...I am not sure the 7mm thickness on that one will work. But the custom size could be a good possibility.

Questions to ask vendor:

First off , can they produce an irregular shape battery? If we could jog around that headphone jack, an additional ~75-100mAh could be added.

How many batteries need to be ordered to get a custom size? we could start a bulk buy thread...see what we get...? Setup charge?..

What are the discharge rates on his batteries?

Can you shoot him an email.
[Other SmartWatches] SumCanadianGuy:
I'm a little busy at the moment and will be going to bed shortly. Here is the listing http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=111245726673
[Other SmartWatches] Jamesch:
I think we can work that 30mm lower by removing the insulator.

Anyway I think I would also join in that custom size/shape order if it is possible.

(Well as soon as I get my watch, I have just ordered it this morning from smartq via EMS. I was told DHL always goes through customs, EMS sometimes doesnt, what's your preference? We have a 27% VAT here, which I don't want to pay if I don't have to)

Just brainstorming here, but would it be possible to fill the cavity with some solidifying non-destructive foam and send that to them so they could get the best capacity battery in there?