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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
I was checking the specs for the Note 4 and then I noticed that the speaker has been moved to the back of the phone.

NOOOPE! I'm gonna pass on it. It's something about the Note 3 I really appreciated; having a speaker at the bottom is far better than on the back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yeah, that's silly to put it on the back again.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
and no ip67 certification
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yeah, idk bout you guys, but it seems like just a very slightly improved version of what I already have to me [emoji53]

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
I for one do not plan on dropping my phone in the toilet so I should be ok there!

But dang! I've only had the pleasure to play with dwitherall's nf4 goodness for about 5 days. Can't I enjoy it for a little while longer before being tempted by another phone!

However...

If, for general use the camera is really better, and a 64GB version is available, significantly better screen (without sacrificing battery life), a little more pep, and nicer construction (aluminum frame) I might go for it. Also, the frame on my GN3 does have a crack in it ($250 to fix) so it might be time to upgrade. Atleast hardware wise... Well, it won't be available till October so there is still some time to find out more about the GN4 and enjoy Tweaked

One thing I do not like is the Edge. I'd rather have a side launcher that does all the things found on the Edge's edge. Plus the asymmetry of the design in portrait would drive me nuts.

EDIT: Well, I'm having second thoughts about the Edge. Could be a useful feature. Although it would be nice if it was symmetrical
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Seems like a minimal jump for Sammy. I'm all for better video but I'm not going to notice the difference between 4k and 1080 when 1080 is what is being put out now; blu-ray.

The edge is interesting, and i agree that they should move the notification bar or launcher over there.

Meh, tweaked note 3 is just fine with me.

BOOM, shalakalaka
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
I was looking in the Note 4 threads and I was surprised to see that many folks, when asked whether it was worth upgrading, said that they were unhappy with the speaker placement (although one person said the sound is better if it placed on back - better bass - don't know if that is true) and that it was not water resistant (I thought [MENTION=909915]deeznutz[/MENTION] was kidding when he mentioned that!). Some others said that the upgrade was marginal. I'm still on the fence on this but till I actually check one out I can't say for sure. I'm a big fan of the Note series and have never regretted bumping up to the next model. My guess is that it will be super smooth with a superior feel, performance and solid build even when compared to Note 3. Of course the other very important factor is what support its going to get. I guess time will tell!

EDIT: It is only going to get worse... Too many neat options to choose from. Besides the Galaxy Edge, Nexus X is looking good!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
The water resistance is okay, but I have lost a bit of faith in Sammy for only including it with the S5. I’m a Note user and don’t want to feel as though I’m considered 2nd to the a smaller device.

The speaker on the back is just dumb! Why step backwards?!?!

I agree with them in the Note 4 forum, it seems like a marginal upgrade. If it was water resistance and had the speaker at the bottom I’d be all for upgrading. Meh, I’ll save my pennies for something else.

IF, big if, the Nexus X has expandable memory it will be under serious consideration. It's the main reason I've never considered one. After purchasing a 64 Gig card...no slot, no buy.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
The metal frame, faster processor, and qhd display are big improvements for the n4. But are they enough to bump me off my n3? Idk.... I think for me a lot will have to do with whether or not talented developers like dwitherell also work with it.

The Nexus X rumors are also very appealing to me as well. A 5.9 display 805 processor, 3gig of ram and the rumored 64gig of storage running pure aosp just might do it for me if they come true. Ahh, we'll just have to wait and see I guess.

I'm curious to see what [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] has to say on the subject.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dwitherell:
I feel the same about the n4 as I did about the n3 when I had the n2. I'm curious what how the nexus stuff will shake out... I wouldn't mind an n4 don't get me wrong, but it didn't grab me to the point where I have single-minded focus on obtaining it or anything.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Agreed, I'm not driven to desire one.

BOOM, shalakalaka
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Well, the Nexus X is beginning to sound quite "desirable"! Android L out of the box, Presumably with ART operational, 5.9 inch screen about $600. All this is to be verified but if true, a Tweaked Nexus X doesn't sound too bad to me. Altough if memory is not expandable it would be doa for rmany.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
That's why 64gig on board sounds good

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Well, when I installed Tweaked NF4 I decided to clean up my files. Now I'm down to 77GB! Anyways, the good news is that there will be lots of nice devices coming out in the next few months!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] vibrantliker:
They definitely pulled an S5 with the Note 4. Really disappointing. I had an opportunity to jump (T-mobile) 2 X so I left my Note 3 in July for the LG G3 to try out something different with the intent to jump to the Note 4 when it comes out. Not crazy about LG G3 so I was pumped for the Note 4 but now I'm not. Maybe the edge but really not wowed for some reason.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
I bet there will be some great options coming. The HTC stylus looked promising until it turned out not to compete with the Note 4's specs.

Alas, I'll love my Note 3 a bit longer.

That sucks on the LG G3, Vibrantliker. I looks awesome, but I’ve read that it wasn’t what it was built up to be.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yeah, I have both the n3 and g3. G3 is ok out of the box but kinda boring otherwise.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] vibrantliker:
I was with Samsung since the Vibrant then SII,SIII,Note 2,Note3. Note 3 was the best but just wanted to see what something else was like. To me, Lg G3 is no big deal at all, screen dim compared to Samsung. I don't care if their displays are over saturated, they look better. Lg G3 is more laggy than I expected and battery is a day less than what I was getting on Note 3. I got my son an M8 when I got my Lg G3 and that is soo smooth.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yeah, my wife's phone. It's got enough customizations stock that she's happy. But development sucks and it's kinda a pita to root. But it does lag and on art she was getting freezes requiring battery pulls. I just put it back on dalvic to see if that helps. This is on stock unrooted btw.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] vibrantliker:
Your wife has the G3 ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Well, I got it to check it out. But gave it to her because it doesn't even come close to my n3.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mgbotoe:
We all know it comes close :) mines all kind of sexy but of course will be sexier with tweak :) /troll
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] BACARDILIMON:
Thanks guys. Way to mess up my x mas present for my self.

AWESOME G3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] vibrantliker:
I'm probably still gonna go back to the Note 4 though. Wondering about others, heard New Nexus will be 5.9 in size?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
Not sure what im going to do either now. Not very happy with the N4, definitely missing the WOW factor foe me to go out and grab it. Honestly i may sound like a gay groupie right now, but since im not set on yhe Note4 im going to follow Dwith on this one. After having Tweaked on every phone ive owned in the past 5 years? i dont think i can go without it at this point. So whatever phone you decide to go with Dwith I will get a donation going for your copy and we'll go from there i guess. So may be a good idea to wait for all the badboys to come out before making a decision, but im gonna be a gay groupie on this one and get wahatever D gets.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Looks like there may be 2 sizes?

http://bgr.com/2014/09/03/motorola-nexus-x-specs/

Not a gay groupie Sasha...total fan boy! Could be worse:

at least we know he won't be going to the iPhone 6!

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Sir, I went private with [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] and told him the same thing....man to man. I said, "Whatever you do, I'll do. EXCEPT....if you DO get the Note 4,which I do not want, then I'll reconsider." I don't want to reveal his business and personal choices, that's his place to disclose, but he shared with me where he might (emphasize on 'might') be leaning towards and I would like to see it go that way, if things seem enticing enough to actually jump the gun.

So for all you who are iffy on the Note 4, I'm with you due to Dwitherell having stolen the thunder from Note 4 with having implemented some of the Note 4's software tweaks (pun definitely intended) already into TweakedN3 3.5. For that I might as well just keep rolling with N3. It's plenty sufficient. Now, about that Nexus X!!! Like someone said, No Slot, No Buy. But if slot, and if Dwitherell considers it, now we're talkin'.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Sent that article to msion yesterday.

Not sure on the sizes but it looks promising.

COM'ON EXPANDABLE MEMORY!!!

Can we rot the iPhone 6 and install tweaked ROM on it??? No???

Then i say GOOD DAY!

Sash, we're all cramming into the same boat. I'd be willing to take careful consideration of a device Dwitherwell is fond of.

BOOM, shalakalaka
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Namolas:
I don't see any mention of an external memory slot and based on the Nexus 4 & 5 there likely won't be, correct? I don't really care how good everything else sounds if there is no expandable storage its a big hell no from me, otherwise I'd love to pick up a Nexus. I have a 64GB card in my HTC One Max and a 128GB card in my Note 4 and there is no going back after having a 160GB Galaxy Note 3.... :D

And I agree with everybody else here. The announcement of the Note 4 kinda left a dry taste in my mouth. I mean it looks like a great device for somebody that doesn't already have a Note 3 but its not near enticing enough to pony up $800 to leave the Note 3....know I'm sayin'? :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Just curious: if the rumors of an on board storage of 64gig come true, would that be enough to make up for the lack of an sd card slot? I have the same concerns about getting screwed by a lack of storage capacity since having the issue with my gnex. Not all of us love the cloud. But for me I think 64 on board would be a tipping factor and probably adequate. Especially if all the other factors (read: dwitherell!) fell into place.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Not expecting the SD slot but hoping as they KNOW we want it there. Plus, Motorola is building it so you never know.

Got a 64G card in my Note 3 so it's a definit "no" if there's not SD slot.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
I don't trust the cloud. I already have to deal with poperotzi trying to get nude photos of me as it is. ;)

The cost of the 64 MIGHT sway me if it's a low number but I doubt it will be.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Lol.....IT-based experimentations, etc. I don't do porn, I just married my 7-year long gorgeous girlfriend (now wife) who more than supercedes even myself in the porn-esque department. Little firecracker she is, so my SD card is consumed by more useful things. Lololol...

64gb external plus 32gb internal is no longer enough for me. But I certainly sure do a lot of video stuff.

If Nexus X continues the $300/$350'ish pricepoint, I have no choice but to add it to my current collection (no T-Mobile Jumping.....I want my Note 3). The X is 99.9999999% like the Galaxy Note 4 specs in EVERY way, minus the hardware stylus and minus the software bloatware including cool S-Pen stuff. Which, by the way, with the confirmed 5.9 inch screen, I'm sure my finger will do fine utilizing SPen-like apps, anyhow.

I, for the first time ever, am actually wanting a Nexus device of any kind.

I definitely need the Sony Xperia Z3, so being married gives me the upperhand cuz, yesterday, I was like, "Honey, I think you need an upgrade from the Note 2 that you have. How about a Sony Xperia Z3?" She was all over that. Little does she know....I'll be playing with it. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
I currently use a 64GB sd card too. Total space used on my N3 is 77GB. A lot of the space is used up because I have stored 2 different linux distributions and I've backed up a couple different roms and so forth so space disappears pretty fast for me.

I think you bring up an important point about changing device brand. You have to consider what features you take for granted that you may lose. For example, along with the spen I also like having the floating resizable windows capability, On the otherhand, because Nexus X is more cutting edge it may be a bit more fun to play with. Then again, if it is changing too quickly that can be a headache too. I do like the 5.9 screen and was disappointed Samsung didn't bump up the size on the N4. Anyways, too early to tell for me...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Haha...See, you're a great example as to how some people really truly get creative with their devices and genuinely do need larger storage capacities. When someone tells me they need more storage because of their games or pictures/videos, then there has to be a balance of local storage versus archival storage (transferring your stuff to some SSD external harddrive or backing up to Blu-ray, etc). But Distros and OS'es and stuff on your phone....that's a good reason to increase your storage and stick with a phone that supports an SD slot as your primary phone while having a 'developers' phone to experience cutting edge stuff.

Two phones is not in everyone's budget, that is - 'newer' phones. Meaning, don't get a Note 4 AND a Nexus X. Stay with your Note 3 or 2, keep as primary, and then get NX. By now people on a N3 should be halfway done paying it. They should ask for only money at Christmas as a gift to you and pay off the N3 when income tax comes around, which by then your balance should be very small.

Right now I have a N2 (Tweaked and fully purchased), N3 (Tweaked and still paying), I want my wife to get the Z3 (she's got a N2)and I want to get the NX. My Chase Freedom credit card has already given me hundreds of dollars of free cash back just sitting there since Chase awarded me the card back in June, so essentially I can get the NX for nearly free or pay off my N3 right now, and have only one monthly payment (being the NX).

I asked [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] to please oh please consider the NX, if it comes in 64gb. Ultimately, I am in no rush, nor actually need, a new phone at all at this point, so if Dw says no this season, I'm especially alright with that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
Maybe google will make a 128 gig. One can dream lol

Sent from my bad ass Kryon infused TWEAKED..Note 3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Consider the following thread about the Note 2 and 3

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2447512&page=1

Sound familiar?

When I went from Note 2 to Note 3 I never looked back...

Can't say history will repeat itself this time but I do look forward to checking out all the neat toys out there!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Pshshshshsh, i was stoked for the Note 3.

BOOM, shalakalaka
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
I do remember those days. However, I'm an amazing and accurate judge of character with a great deal of discernment and I can honestly say that at least with the Note 3 (having already been an owner of the N2 at that moment) I could immediately tell that I needed to have it. I could distinguish actual enhancements that warranted another $700 expense and I was right.

However, I can't say the same about the Note 4. Not for another $700 plus dollars. And I still have the Note 2 along with the 3. I say "another full price" cuz I keep the phones. I don't sell or Jump from my older ones.

And then some of the features that the Note 4 is touting and gloating about.. [MENTION=516593]dwi[/MENTION]therwell already inserted into Tweaked 3.5. So NOW I have even less to identify as a gotta-have-it feature for the Note 4.

At that point, then what remains as to all that I can see that we can debate or try to justify is how far along did the camera improvement come along and, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, I'd rather spend the whole $700 on a dedicated DSLR banging camera.

I'm sure I won't get the N4. As my God says in the Bible....let my Yes be Yes and my No be No. If I commit to a decision, I'm pretty good about not wavering.

T-Mobile Note 2's maximum internal storage and RAM where 16gb/2gb with a 5.5 screen. At least we can say that U.S. T-Mobile Note 3 upgraded all 3 of those components. Samsung disrespected us enough to not have considered that same path for Note 4. Even if you don't need it. It's the common practice and courtesy to give a little bump at LEAST in the internal storage and RAM. (I saw "Android Authority" on YouTube say 4gb of RAM and 64gb internal, is this true???)

64gb Nexus X with a whopping 5.9" screen....I'm sold. And I'll still keep my Note 3.

Love u guys.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Well, perhaps a possible solution would be for dwitherell to round up some of Santa's worker elves to help him spread the joy of tweaked to many devices. Do elves know much about xmls and smali?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Tunasty:
I was lookin forward to Note 4 so bad but when I saw the speakers are on the back and no more USB 3.0, it changed my mind. I'm curious how 2.0 will charge faster than 3.0... And all of sudden Samsung doesn't care about transferring data speed that 3.0 gives? Other companies have been moving their speakers towards front but Samsung is going backwards lol

-Tunasty
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jazzmachine:
I've never understood A) Why phones are still sold with the same internal storage options that they have been for years, particularly given the negligible cost of increasing storage capacity beyond the flash module itself, and the crazy price difference between a specific model with different storage amounts, and particularly B) The rationalization behind the disappearance of micro sd slots. It just seems completely ass-backwards from both a business AND "strongly desired by consumers" perspective.

Limited local storage equals a hard limit of apps that users can install (buy) from the Play store. So app sales (which equal profit obviously for devs, but more relevantly for

Google

) so selling as many apps as possible is clearly beneficial for Google, and likely the user, as they are allowed the opportunity to install / try more apps which could very possibly improve their experience with the device as well as the Android platform itself. So of all the parties that this effects, the one for whom it's in any way beneficial is... ?

Additionally, the justification that "cloud storage" is an appropriate replacement for local storage is simply asinine. Fortunately I don't even need to bother with a supported explanation here, as it's incredibly obvious. Anyone "official" making this claim (i.e. company rep) is well aware that it's a lie, assuming that they understand technology at a basic level (i.e. not just some marketing-bot).

Re: The Note 4, the term "lateral-grade" seems accurate. Almost a guaranteed downgrade out of the box vs. my beloved Note 3 running Tweaked 3.5. Very eager to see phones released next year with Snapdragon 810s and Tegra K1 Denvers!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Bataga:
I forgot so I turned on my Skyline to see what the back speaker sounded like. Lawl.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Saw this in the Note 4 threads. Anybody speak Italian?

http://youtu.be/eEsNHe1TZRE?t=4m39s
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yeah, I dont like the asymmetrical look of the edge and I'm wondering what they did that requires more room at the bottom and a back speaker.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cuezaireekaa:
It's beautiful but I have a feeling we're gonna see some exciting stuff soon.

Plus I enjoy my note 3 too much still.

I want more time with her before we part. Hell, I've barely used scrapbook LOL

A solid coupla builds of tw, aosp, and miui roms in here and on my SD card, are all good in my book.

Plus, I still haven't had that day I needed my spare battery 8)

Passing on this one.

I do wish our phone had that ois goin on tho
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] foreverloco:
Gimme an edge to pull myself up pls......

I've been so looking forward to the note 4 and then got smacked in the face with a Note 3s.......

Hoping the 5.9 nexus with 64 gigs of memory rumors come true cause Sammy don fuked up...

Instead of dividing their time on 2 phones, they should have been focusing on a slaughter house......
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
I'm in the same mind set as you. Samsung took all us XDA folks and gave us a swift kick in the balls. Hopefully nexus x with 64 gigs happens

Sent from my bad ass Kryon infused TWEAKED..Note 3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] foreverloco:
I've had only 3 android phone and thought the note series was the way to go, but Sammy dropped the soap.

Couldn't they at least not move the speaker?....

At least the edge might be something different to play with

But the rumor of a 5.9 nexus makes me tingly all over.... If it's only 5.2 with 32 memory then like every other nexus can go suck it.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Agreed!!

There's also the prospect of other phablet phones, the HTC stylus for example. I know it's not great but it's a start. Hopefully other phone makers pick-up the soap Sammy dropped.

BOOM, shalakalaka
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Well, for you ihaters, one of the best things that could happen is the 5.5 iphone. Competition is good. Only means that Samsung must try harder next time!

Don't know if this phone will work in US but it looks interesting...

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_mate7-6543.php

So many valid points of view... If I was a developer and wanted to be on the cutting edge of software I would definately go with a 64GB Nexus X, as GN4 will have to wait awhile to get Android L (just my guess). Also 5.9 inch screen is very cool. But if you like to use spen and multiwindows or floating wndows option, I would go with Note 4 or stick with Note 3 (with Tweaked on board of course!). If you like the outdoor life, steam rooms or are a fish I would go with the S5 or this

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/04/CAT-s50-rugged-smartphone/#continued
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Or the Sony Xperia Z3 rated at IP 65/68 (not the usual 67).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
Not a fan of Sony's bezel. I want me screen and less bezel.

BOOM, shalakalaka