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[Xperia Z1 General] eggman89:
Is it better or comparable to LG G2 ?

The reason I'm asking is because LG G2 has something called HiFi sound.

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Is it better or comparable to LG G2 ?

The reason I'm asking is because LG G2 has something called HiFi sound.
[Xperia Z1 General] shahzaib.khan:
Xperia z1 have the best sound i m using xperia Z1 but only after u root it n flaah the sound increase mod.

But if u want the beatest sound quality and also output. Htc one is on top of the list
[Xperia Z1 General] MohammadAG:
The built in speaker won't do wonders. For headphones it's quite good, it's not as good as the Wolfson chip in the S4, but it's only a step or two less in terms of quality.

In my experience, most of the people that heard how it sounds didn't make out the difference in headphone quality, but everyone I've shown the device to criticized the built in speaker.

Anyway, I only use that for ringtones and notifications, for music I use a pair of AKGs. Haven't tried my FiiO E7 yet.
[Xperia Z1 General] RHBH:
I live in Brazil, and when the subject is electronics device, Unfortunately this country is awful, because not all companies bring their products to here, and the few that come, have a HUGE import tax.

HTC doesn't sell products in Brazil.

Some examples:

Xperia Z1 here costs $1090.

PS4 here costs $1826.

Xbox One costs $1050.

Iphone 5 costs $1370.

Our government tax imported products more than 100% to protect an almost inexistent national industry.

A "Gol" (Most sold car in Brazil), made in Brazil costs here $14620, the same car, made in Brazil but exported to Mexico is sold at Mexico for: $6870.

I just can't understand this corrupt governement and business thieves, this country have so much potential but the politians and business mans just sucks.

Ps: 1 BRL = 0,45685 USD (10/25/2013).

Ps 2: Brazil minimum wage = $310 per month.
[Xperia Z1 General] TheCraig:
Wow.. that's why the country isn't developing, its economy is about as big as the UK right now but it could be up there in 3rd with the US and China.
[Xperia Z1 General] GPKrzychuXxX:
Wolfson without mods isn't good. Only with mods make Phone one of the best. Xperia Z1 play better then. S4(octa) and s3 without mods.

If you want the best sound with mods. Buy Wolfson. Phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] krabappel2548:
I'll bring acid soon :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Jimvest:
Speaker volume is at least as loud as Xperia s If you turn xloud on =)
[Xperia Z1 General] GPKrzychuXxX:
Give us more dynamic range

You edit. Only alsa Or drivers?

Before Z1 I was had galaxy s3 and AC!D mode little changes. When AndiP changes driver implementation. I hear mega change.
[Xperia Z1 General] RHBH:
Thanks for your feedback guys, I'll just wait till black friday to see if I can get a good price on Z1.

Z1 isn't released here in Brazil yet (release date: 11/6/13), so I don't mind waiting.

Also, I have a small question.

Xperia Z1 in Brazil is a EUROPE version variant, in Europe the model is C6903, in Brazil the model is C6943, they have support for the same 3G/4G frequencies, but the Brazilian version have Digital TV (Brazilian Digital TV Standard is the same from the Japanese, so it's not a problem to Sony give us Digital TV since the Japanese version have it too :D

Personally I would prefer that they give 32GB of storage too! Such a big mess:

Global version: 16GB, no DTV, no IR. (C6902, C6903, C6906).

Japanese version: 32GB, DTV and IR. (don't know the model number)

Brazil version: 16GB, DTV but no IR. (C6943, same frequencies of C6903).

My question is: If I install some rom here from XDA, I won't have problems with 3G/4G because the frequencies here are supported by both C6903 and C6906 (3G = 2100 and 4G = 2600), but will I have problems with DTV?
[Xperia Z1 General] danw_oz:
Xperia Z and Z1 sound quality real good, best I have used in a phone. The only problem I have had was with the Z issues skipping during play. I have now installed purexaudio. The only thing I don't like so far with the Z1 is no equaliser in the walkman app.
[Xperia Z1 General] For_itembine:
The audio jack needs an extra 2 - 3 bar volume increase. Some podcasts are hard to hear, some youtube vids also.

the htc one is ridiculously loud. I think the htc one xl has the best dac. S3 + loud sound mod was great also
[Xperia Z1 General] ahomad:
if you go to my thread about tips to improve Z1. I have few tips to try to get louder voice without any MODs. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.

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There is equalizer in the Walkman app in sounds enhancements section
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
I don't know if you have noticed but if you tick dynamic normalizer the volume gets almost twice as loud.

For me the normal sound volume is fine though.
[Xperia Z1 General] danw_oz:
Thanks very much,not sure why Sony buried that so deep this time, and why I was so stupid not to find it :eek:
[Xperia Z1 General] 30Seconds:
I find the music playback quality on this phone to be better than the Wolfson equipped S3 or Note II that I had used previously. There is a little bit more in the way of dynamics on this phone and great playback clarity. I leave EQ and Clearaudio off as it just adds noise.

One curious thing is that I found the headphone volume will go a bit louder using the Walkman app than Poweramp etc.

This is one of the few Android phones that rivals the IPhone as a PMP and I am happy with mine for that reason.
[Xperia Z1 General] Cockerel Chin:
Another shout for the great sound quality on the Xperia Z1. Obviously sound quality is somewhat objective, but the stats on http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987p7.php show a very clear sound with an extremely flat frequency response.

There have been a few people complaining that the Z1 uses the Qualcomm processor's on-board sound chip instead of a dedicated sound chip like a Wolfson, but in reality the quality is very similar. I spend a lot of money on audio equipment and this is a very good sounding phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] shahzaib.khan:
Im jus waiting for acid mod
[Xperia Z1 General] N77NS:
hi

whether there is a problem with video sound?

this is my video, listen to the sound in the quiet room

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPfpnQzowtM
[Xperia Z1 General] omnius1:
The loudspeaker I'd basically rate as average, but the headphone quality I'm extremely pleased with. Very crisp, and excellent volume, which is great because that's my main concern with audio
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
Does Z1 have one or two speakers? I can see two holes behind the speaker grill but only the right one is playing. I'm pretty sure that it has only one speaker, but that second hole confuses me so I want to be sure that my unit don't miss the second speaker. Btw. if there is a hole, why didn't they put the second speaker in there?

Talking about sound quality: first impressions on headphones weren't good. The sound was boomy, with too much bass and I just couldn't adjust it in sound enhacements. Then I installed PowerAMP, far the best player on ANY platform and phone and it was much better. I turned off all Sony sound enhacements (except Dynamic Normalizer which does a great job, since I have lot's of tracks which are quieter and now they sound the same like all others) and adjusted the eq in PowerAMP and the quality is good. I'm angry because I can't skip tracks by long-pressing volume rocker without root and taking out this big phone from my pocket just to skip a track makes no sense. And second, they choosed the worst possible position to put the volume keys on headphone cable. Why so high!?? Now I look like a jerk when I walk down the street trying to reach the buttons next to my ear. And it's hard to reach it and I always press the wrong button.

The speaker has a nice sound (lot more bass than my X10) but I find it pretty quiet. And I noticed one thing: when I reach the half of the volume, it's almost on max. Turning the volume up further than 50% and the sound loses bass. And at 100%, sometimes I can hear some distortions. 100% is only a little louder than 50% and sometimes I have a feeling that there is some kind of a limiter. On the start of a song it is loud, but when the bass starts punching (I listen to house/trance), like all other gets quieter a little.
[Xperia Z1 General] omnius1:
Not that excited about the speakers but I get fantastic quality from headphones on this phone

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] ashouhdy:
I use the LG hbs730 double stereo aptx bluetooth headset and the sound is awesome so awesome that u wont believe. I too also ise Poweramp.

P.S i didnt get headphones with my phone!
[Xperia Z1 General] TheKnux:
I'm pretty sure that the hole that you don't see anything in is where the microphone is. If you look at an iPhone 5 or 5S, one speaker grille is bigger than the other. The bigger one being the speaker, the smaller one being the microphone. Correct me if wrong, but that's what I think.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
Right, I forgot about the microphone :D Btw. I thought that iPhones have two speakers as well :D
[Xperia Z1 General] Haleem98:
Hey there mate.

The Z1's speaker quality isn't realty excellent in my opinion. I mean, it's good but the speaker isn't loud enough. When using the headphones that you receive when purchasing the phone, it's good quality. However I'm not a fan on the headphones, simply because they don't fit in my ear properly, and if they do, then I have to wiggle them in and they are very uncomfterble.
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
Why don't you try another flange?

I think stock earphones from Sony are really comfortable with the right size of earplugs.

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I found those stock headphones weird as well. I have this ones. I already put the smallest flange on it and now it's fine, but still I think that there is a high pressure in my ears which something can be annoying and the noise reduction is strong. This is good when traveling for example in a bus, but while walking on the street I can hear my own footsteps and even without the music playing, I can barely hear the traffic.

The other thing is that small remote on the worst place ever. First, it does not serve well on that place because I look weird on the street while trying to reach that thing and guessing the buttons by the touch. It would be a lot better if it was somewhere down, so you can see it while having the headphones. And this cable is weird as well. The cool thing is that it can't get entangled but it's pretty uncomfortable to use on the street while walking. That remote usually finishes on my face and it's pulling the headphone out of my ear.

And for sound quality, yes those headphones sounds nice. But I still didn't find the ideal audio settings. With only Clear Audio + turned on, the sound is nice but too much highs (treble). Without Clear Audio, the sound is somehow muffled. So I'm combining PowerAMP's EQ with Clear Audio. That Sony's system-wide EQ is not so good. The first lower frequency is 400 Hz!? And I love to adjust those frequencies from 30 - 100 Hz. The PowerAMP's EQ is much better for that. Furthermore, I was using the Dynamic Normalizer because it was doing miracles with some of quiet songs I had. But, I noticed that in songs, when for example only one instrument is playing or only melody/vocal, it is quiet and then when the beat comes, I have to turn the volume down for one step because it gets too loud. I think that this weird sound is because of Dynamic Normalizer so I turned it off and now the volume is noticeably lower.

Talking about speaker, it's doing a good job for a waterproof phone. It's not too loud, but if we're planing to listen to music from phone, we can buy a bluetooth speaker or something. And for calls, it's more than enough; I don't want all the people on the street to hear my phone ringing. But the thing that I noticed is: the speaker sounds the best somewhere on 50-60% volume. Up to that point it gets louder on every press. But above that, it doesn't get really louder but it distorts the sound. The mids and highs gets a little bit louder but the bass starts to sound weird. It's probably some limiter for protection or something.
[Xperia Z1 General] Haleem98:
340

Hmmm, thanks. I'll try that some time. I thought they were all the same size, just urmm... new ones so if the old one gets dirty then you can use them :)

-Haleem
[Xperia Z1 General] RHBH:
I'm using Sony MDR-XB90EX with my Z1... Nice sound guys... In a near future I'll install a Sound Mod.
[Xperia Z1 General] bahathir:
Hi,

I don't care much about sound quality. I enjoying sound if it sound correct to my ears... :)

My sound preferences : Clear and precision. Main genre are podcasts and lectures.

1) Builtin speakers.

No bad, enough to wake me up in the morning. Wish a bit louder.

2) Stock headset

Not bad at all. IF we can get good fit, isolation is getting better and bass will extended. Sound range for voice is good. Short of treble energy and extension. :)

3) Sony XBA-C10, cheap single Balanced Armature IEMs.

Nice vioice reproduction. Warm and well balanced sound, with a little rolled off treble.

4) Unique Melody Mage, Custom Quad Balanced Armature IEMs.

This CIEMs are treble ecenntric IEMs. Treble is well extended without any harshness.

5) Z1 -OTG-> -mini USB cable-> iBasso D10 (Cobra) DAC/headphone amp -> IEMs (USB Audio mode)

This is the best way to enjoy audio from any digital source :). D10 is my reference DAC/amp for my IEMs, and compared to Z1 headphone output, Z1 has lesser treble energy and dynamic, most probably due to limited audio output.

Conclusion, Z1 auido output is natural, no or less coloring in sound signature. For podcasts and lectures listening, it is more than enough. It support USB Audio via OTG, is the best feature for higher listening experience. BTW, previously, I like Motorola RAZR (XT910) sound, which IMHO have little bit more impact and dynamic compared to Z1.

Note: I did the test WITHOUT ANY sound effects or EQs.

Thank you.
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
I recommend two earphones/headphones with higher sensibility and acceptable impedance!

1 - AKG K420p (over the ear)

2 - AKG K324p (in ear monitor)

The K420p is very comfortable and the sound is amazingly good.

The bass is clear and warm with cristal clear highs and soft mids!

A jewel with the price of a piece of bread!

The K324p is an in ear monitor with excellent noise isolation and comfortable flanges.

The sound is warmer and the bass is noticeable strong!

It have nice mids and good highs.

Indicated to people who prefer eletronic music,rap,hip hop,reggae.

Will be the perfect match with our Z1!

Give a try!

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] qbic2:
Resampling in Z1 (to 48khz) is killing sound quality... (I'm using high grade headphones), a lot of aliasing.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I tried today my Z1 with ELE EL-D01 DAC and I got better sound and much louder output, amazing sound on stock headphones as well as on my Sennheiser RS-160 and on my Hi-Fi. And I bought that DAC for 16$ on eBay, it's great. It works out of the box, just plug in usb otg and play.
[Xperia Z1 General] vegetaleb:
Anyone tried Viper4android?

This app can boost volume of speaker and earphones.

After installing it you can play with max db output.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
[Xperia Z1 General] jlevy73:
Not yet but I have it installed on my n5 and sound quality is still far superior on the z1 (and I mean far superior).
[Xperia Z1 General] tthaz777:
I've been using Sony DR-BTN200M NFC Bluetooth On-Ear Headphones. Music sound quality is great. You can buy it for $99 with free tax + free shipping at Sonic Electronix

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item...luetooth-On-Ear-Headphones-Headset-Black.html
[Xperia Z1 General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
I have an issue with the sound quality.

And it's exactly the same issue as I had on the Z.

Certain tracks - for example Equinoxe Pt.5 - suffer a volume increase/decrease at certain, repeatable, places.

This only occurs if I use ClearAudio or Equalizer in the Walkman app - Surround Sound effect doesn't seem to create the problem.

If I use Poweramp the problem disappears - unless I enable ClearAudio via the FX setting.

Use of the EQ in Poweramp works without the problem - unlike the EQ in Walkman app.

As I say, I first noticed this on my Z (playing a flac encoded Foo Fighters track) - and was disappointed to find the same problem with my Z1.

I can only assume it's a form of software induced clipping - as lowering the volume (to unusable levels) seems to make the problem disappear - though it's hard to hear at that level!

Now using my AKG K550's with a Fiio X3 - which is certainly a downgrade in style, appearance, display, power, and library functions and operation.

However - this combination (audio -wise) blows the Z1 away!

Maybe a NWZ-F886 in the Xmas sales will restore my faith - or even a ZX1!
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I'm not very satisfied by the quality as well. First of all, the sound levels are too low. I like to listen to music very loud and with Z1 I can get only a decent loudness with original headphones. On my Sennheiser RS-160 the levels are a lot lower than on my laptop as well.

And I think that I noticed the same problems like you: sometimes, when there's only a vocal or one instrument playing in a song, it's quiet but when the beat comes or all other instruments, it gets louder and I have to turn it down a little bit. And sometimes I can hear a little distortion. With such low levels on output, distortion shouldn't be heard!

But you can't compare Fiio or any other decent mp3 player with a phone. I have a 7 years old Philips mp3 player, which is slowly dying, and I'm running Rockbox custom firmware on it. The audio quality and the volume level is impossible to compare with any phone I've owned so far. Such a crystal clear sound, with great sound room, dynamics and range and it goes so loud that my ears start to hurt. And even on high volumes it doesn't distort the sound.

The same is with PowerAMP; it's the best player ever and there's no other player which could be at least as good as poweramp. Sony's EQ is decent and a nice try but not even close to power amp. But when listening through internal speaker, Clear Audio does a better job than poweramp's eq because when I try to achieve the same level of bass through poweramp's eq as with clear audio, the sound is distorted. This Sony's equalizer is very weird to me. In Sorround I have to turn on Studio because when it's turned off, the sound is terrible and muffled.

I didn't have this problems on my X10i. I was running a custom kernel and ROM, with PowerAMP and the sound was enough loud and with some adjusting in PowerAMP's eq, the quality was great.
[Xperia Z1 General] brapicoco:
Sound level on my z1 is high and I always adjust it to a lower one.. try turning on the dynamic normalizer. Sound is very low when i turn that off.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
Funny thing is that the sound gets almost twice as loud when I turn on the dynamic normalizer while listening through internal phone speaker but on my Sennheiser RS-160 there is almost no difference. Furthermore: I got the best sound quality when I turned all Sony's things off (including Clear Audio, Dynamic Normalizer, Sorround and everything other that affects the sound through headphone jack) and used only PowerAMP's EQ. The sound is not so quiet, actually the levels are enough for normal or a little louder listening. But sometimes I just want to have some more juice, when I really want to crank the sh*t out of my ears and there's no juice left. My laptop is louder, and my own mp3 player had the same thing like Z1; it was quiet with stock firmware. When I put custom Rockbox firmware it was loud as hell. So it must be some software limitation.

By turning everything from Sony off and adjusting the PowerAMP EQ, I got some pretty quality sound on my RS-160 :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] zegun:
idk what settings you guys use in the Walkman app or what headphones you use

but as someone who use this Z1 everyday to listen to music (techno, dubstep, rock, pop, jazz, j-rock, j-pop) with no additional settings except ClearBass at +2, i'm always satisfied with the sound quality Z1 has

i can describe it as flat, with a bit thick mids -- and so far the only players that beats Z1 in my taste is the Astell & Kern AK100 and AK120, and Altmann Terra

sure Z1 doesnt really have crystal clear clarity, huge staging, and outstanding separation like dedicated DAPs have, this is a goddamn smartphone -- not an iPod

i've listened to HTC One, SGS4, and LG G2 .. compared to Z1, the only one that comes close to Z1 in terms of sound quality and characters is only the G2 in my opinion

SGS4 has great clarity thanks to the Wolfson chip it has inside, but it feels like looking at a beatiful and clean white wall -- sounds clean but nothing special, i dont think they tuned the Wolfson to perform even better

HTC One? too much bass...... Beats are crap and will always be a crap, i missed the original old HTC Sensation

i've always listened to my musics directly through the 3.5mm earphone jack when on the go, and sometimes hook it up to a Topping D2 or Fiio E10 through OTG depends on my mood swing :P

and about volume, please check your eaphone/headphone's impedance rate and sensitivity.. higher impedance + lower sensitivity = low volume / requires higher output gain

i use UE900 and FitEar ToGo!334 with 80% .flac, 10% .wav, and 10% LAME mp3 files
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I actually think that there's too much settings that confuses us :D I don't use Walkman app, it's bad compared to PowerAMP, and the PowerAMP's EQ is way better. I managed to get a pretty nice sound on my Sennheiser RS-160 with the settings from the image in attachment. And with stock headphones I use Clear Audio+ and Dynamic Normalizer, they're doing some decent job.

I think that those thick mids you mentioned are bothering me. I like a thin sound, with precise bass and more highs. For example, I like to turn up those frequencies around 50 Hz to get this strong kick. And Clear Bass does turn up all the bass frequencies. With Clear Bass I get that wroom sound and I want only to hear the kick itself, kicking precisely (somewhere around 40-60 Hz). But with PowerAMP there is another problem: if I turn up the bass, I got distorsions so I have to turn down the preamp volume and the sound then gets even quieter.

All in all, the quality is very good and the volume is not so low but it could be higher. And I forgot to mention my music: dance, trance, house, uk top 40 hits, commercial music, sometimes a little bit of rock.
[Xperia Z1 General] zegun:
Mine? All flat.. Except for the clearbass, just to give it a little hump

I did say a little bit thick, doesnt mean it is thick

Plus im using UE900 and TG334 which both have lush mids

Try using Etymotic ER4 or HF2 if you like it thin, Sennheisers are never thin except the HD800 lol.. Because sennie wants it tuned mostly for the mainstream crowds, so their products can be easily accepted by people.

HiFiMan earphones are also a good choice if you dont like thick mids.

I dont like to play with equalizers, i depend purely by the earphone performance

Dont misjudge me, i still dont like to play the EQs even with a more cost friendly ear/headphones..
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
Damn placebo! It seems that I had difficulties with sound in the beginning and then placebo took it's tax, resulting in me blaming the poor Z1. Now I tried, using the same headphones and the same song, changing from my laptop to my Z1 and guess what!? I got the same sound! Exactly the same! With new settings in Sony's EQ. I turned off PowerAMP's EQ and use this settings (in attachment):