yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] jcase:
ok?

This has nothing to do with him unlocking it, as it wasn't unlocked. Loki is a bootloader vulnerability that allows booting unsigned images, but it does not unlock the bootloader. The bootloader remains locked, it merely bypasses signature verification of the images
[Moto X General] mademan420:
To add on to what [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] said, that vulnerability has been patched leaving anybody who has taken either of the last 2 firmware updates totally locked down. It was the main reason I got rid of mine.
[Moto X General] skulldreamz:
There is no possible way to unlock ATT bootloader. It lyes within Motorola to give the last ok

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It would have already been done

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After you type fastboot oem unlock I get a successful message but upon reboot of bootloader it's still locked. Maybe I should try letting it boot all the way up after and then check but it's very doubtful. BTW I'm donating a brand new black in the box HTC one 32gb to whoever unlocks it if possible
[Moto X General] BaconDrips:
Motorola bootloaders are notoriously difficult to unlock. They have security contracts with the US govt.
[Moto X General] skulldreamz:
Haha yeah I hear that. That's why I just ordered my nexus 5!!!
[Moto X General] ninjaclipse:
Please remove my Pledge of $50 from the bounty.

As I am giving to Jcase for his work on rooting 4.4.

I don't see Bl unlock happening for a while. And quite happy just having root with stock 4.4. As most of the tweaks I installed CM for, I can get through gravity box.

Thanks
[Moto X General] hippstar1981:
Please remove my 20$ pledge, I sold the phone..ty
[Moto X General] infinit22:
Does anyone actually think the boot loader will ever be unlocked?
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
Has any Motorola bootloader been unlocked?
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Maybe they'll eventually let us unlock them officially
[Moto X General] infinit22:
I'm talking about a dev being able to unlock it, not through Motorola.
[Moto X General] nhizzat:
Does the Xoom count?
[Moto X General] sfetaz:
I still don't understand specifically what is so different from motorola over other device makers. Especially since in the moto x case we have a dev edition of the phone that can be Unlocked, why can't that be used to create an exploit for locked devices? What does Motorola do that is so extremely effective at locking the device down while almost every other security method in existence in any sense (not just smartphones) has been hacked/cracked? Even the Verizon Samsung S3 which at first people said would be difficult to unlock one day out of the blue got a super easy unlock method. I ask this partly because it amazes me how so many security methods in our world seemingly get hacked with ease yet motorola has found some way to do it that has been so solid.
[Moto X General] Rebel908:
First off:

Galaxy S3 on Verizon got leaked pre-release software. Incredibly lucky, considering that the S4 is stuck now too for non original stock software. Someone probably got fired over that.

The reason that the Dev edition doesn't do us any good is probably along the same lines for the S4.

The fact is: OEMs are getting smarter with how to lock software. And increasingly it is going to take secure information to unlock devices that aren't allowed to unlock. And thus people will be putting there jobs on the line. A measly 1200 dollars isn't going to get someone enticed to sink there opportunities in the tech business.
[Moto X General] Coop9:
As Rebel908 said, the S3 being unlocked was an extremely lucky event. Someone leaked an unsecure bootloader that could be flashed to the device. If I recall correctly, up to that point everyone was banging their heads against the walls... people were debating the feasibility of using a distributed client to discover the key.

The dev edition won't help because you have to ask Motorola for your key to unlock the bootloader. There is not an unsecure bootloader.

I assume there is a possible key for every phone out there. It appears the unlock key is a 20 character alpha numeric string. If you were able to try a billion possible keys a second, you could exhaust that keyset in approximately 425 trillion years. There's a 50% chance you could hit that in only 212 trillion years, 25% chance you could hit it in 106 trillion years. Probably the most positive statistic is that if you started at the formation of the earth there is about a .001% chance that you would have found it by today. I'd play the lottery instead, statistically you'll win it several times before you find the key :)

I'm guessing the most feasible way to unlock the MotoX's bootloader is for someone to leak something which would allow this. Alternatively you could petition the carriers to allow unlocking of the bootloaders.

The good news is that the bootloader is actually rather easy to unlock by purchasing an unlockable MotoX. If you're worried about a subsidy, you can get a subsidized device, sell it, and buy an unlocked device.

Bootloaders across the board are getting harder to exploit. It is going to become more difficult to obtain root on devices. When people buy a locked device and expect someone to come up with an unlock for it, it's becoming increasingly unrealistic, especially when there are options to buy an unlocked version in the first place.

And when you buy an unlocked device, you're actually telling the manufacturers and carriers that there is a demand for this, without which, no one will be releasing unlockable devices in the future.
[Moto X General] sfetaz:
Thanks for the good explanation.
[Moto X General] bitz_dv:
RAZR m and RAZR HD have both been unlocked by Dan Rosenburg. Unfortunately I believe he said they were the last moto devices he would exploit.
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
Thanks I forgot about those.
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
Bought a DE on sale, so I'm withdrawing from the bounty pool
[Moto X General] anirudh412:
Statistic porn!

You sir, win the internet for the awesome explanation.
[Moto X General] caioketo:
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but why all this if you can go and unlock in motorolas web site?

I got mine phone yesterday, and went to the site, and its unlocked, i know it void the warranty, but every unlock will void (i think).

Just want to understand what is the problem in here.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
That unlock only works for certain phones. The AT&T and Version version of the Moto X (Non Dev) can't be unlocked that way
[Moto X General] caioketo:
Ohh, I see, any idea why motorola did this with this specifics phones?

Maybe, getting the string that uses to generate the unlock code, for a lot of devices, we can get something to generate the key for yours
[Moto X General] The Race To Die:
Because Verizon and AT&T don't want them unlocked
[Moto X General] Coop9:
See my post above for why this isn't even worth considering.
[Moto X General] evil.orange.peel:
Didn't see a bootloader dev thread

Wouldn't it be possible to use this same method with a different vulnerability to unlock without a code?

http[colon]//blog[dot]azimuthsecurity[dot]com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html

I may be out of line posting this without at least 10 post's but i was hoping i could contribute for once.
[Moto X General] jac0b:
I'll throw down $50 :D
[Moto X General] daoist:
Sure it would!

...Now go find the vulnerability :)
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
You know maybe if we got enough people to post there unlock codes with their boot loader key we could figure out some common instances to help figure out the algorithm used.

It might also be like Sony way. Sony requires you to post your MEID number so i think that it uses something similar to that.

If someone that has a unlock bootloader could copy there bootloader key and the unlock key and MEID number that might be a start to decoding the algorithm used to produce the unlock key. If they don't feel comfortable about posting it publicly they can PM me and I will look into it.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
That wouldn't work because nobody has the unlock code for these phones. Unless its the same algorithm as the Dev version
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
There is a algorithm that is used to produce a unlock code. The algorithm is the same for every phone, except the bootloader key has a bit in it that determines what the provider it is for. The website can tell by the key if it is for verizon, sprint, tmobile, ect. The request for the key will be declined if it is for verizon and att. Now tmobile and sprint and some other carries are allowed to unlock the phones using that service. If you look at the bootloader keys and the unlock keys you might be able to figure out the algorithm used to produce the unlock keys and then use that algorithm to figure out the unlock key for your bootloader.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
In that case it would work. I have one from a US Cellular RAZR M that I unlocked. Would that help?
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
it wouldn't hurt to look at it, but i think having a unlocked Moto X would be more appropriate. But feel free to PM me with your bootloader key and unlock key and MEID number. MEID number because Motorola uses it to void your warranty so it is probably used to generate the key.

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this is what the website looks for to see if your phone is eligible

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/euf/rightnow/optimized/1387572383/pages/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b.js
[Moto X General] crazysoccerman:
Edit: I hereby delete this post.
[Moto X General] Coop9:
Yeah, there is an algorithm. You aren't going to be able to figure it out based on a couple billion keys, let alone a few hundred from the members here. There's a private key that Moto has, using that and the MEID they generate the unlock code, your bootloader has the public key and verifies the unlock code. Without that private key you are SOL. They are not doing a simple transform on your MEID into an unlock code.

I'm not sure what more can be said, it should be clear to anyone with a basic understanding of math that it's a futile effort to try to reverse engineer the unlock codes.
[Moto X General] Vivjen:
Adding $100 more
[Moto X General] Varking:
Add $50 more.
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
Okay been thinking about this for a while,

what if you change your IMEI number to a unlockable device number, change your device Id to a unlockable device and see what happens? the rest that is used is the bootloader hash and I already checked and it does not prevent the unlock program.

Only way to give this is a try would be get a IMEI number from a unlockable phone and the UID as well. Have a rooted Verizon phone, change the device UID and the IMEI number to the unlocked device and then Fastboot oem get_unlock_data and test it on the motorola unlock site. if anyone wants to give it a try let me know.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
I think changing your device IMEI is highly illegal and would mess with your service. Don't carriers use the IMEI to identify which phone it is?
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
if you are changing it for just a few minutes and then changing it back i don't think youll have a problem.

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Only way to give this is a try would be get a IMEI number from a unlockable phone and the UID as well. Have a rooted Verizon phone, change the device UID and the IMEI number to the unlocked device and then Fastboot oem get_unlock_data and test it on the motorola unlock site. if anyone wants to give it a try let me know.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Just curious, but how would you change the IMEI and UID anyway?
[Moto X General] Legacystar:
Think you can use radiocom or tools like that to change it.
[Moto X General] blackhand1001:
I have a verizon Moto X dev edition. If theres anything you guys want me to dump from it, etc. let me know.
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
/wet blanket

discussing changing IMEI is a great way to get this thread closed guys.

XDA doesn't allow such discussions.
[Moto X General] Coop9:
Yes. It's illegal to do even for a little bit. But further, this would not end up working to unlock the boot loader.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
I didn't think so. The bootloader probably stores its own values for that stuff. And if you could change those values it wouldn't be very secure
[Moto X General] :
Yep. What good is encrypting the bootloader if it validates against a modifiable value?
[Moto X General] cocchiararo:
Since 1 u$s = 6.6 ar$ + 35%... I pledge $2

It is at least something xD

Edit: i have to withdraw now that my bl is unlocked

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
I pledge $15.
[Moto X General] digital_cha0s:
Like any other Motorola phone I get with a locked BL (thx VZW) I'll do with out drinking at least 30 bucks worth of liquor so I hear by pledge 40 for the MotoX ت
[Moto X General] nhizzat:
I pledge $0 because I highly doubt this will ever happen
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Way to be a party pooper :P
[Moto X General] cocchiararo:
Then you should pledge $99999 xD

Moto X X1058 - Tapatalk
[Moto X General] frenchie007:
I took the liberty of updating the bounty status. Hopefully I didn't forget anyone or make any mistakes! Here it is.

old thread/what's in Op's post:

herzzreh +50

murso74 +20

rmead01 +10

denimjunkie82 +20

matt99017d +50

spyz88 +30

grimez +75

basedboii +20

sonicHeart +20

fatboydc +35

housry23 +50

bajasur +20

chefdav12118 +25

ruskiyab +30

pudgewack +10

pilot123 +20

rask40 +25

bmour +25

droidxethan +20

Prof_Farnsw0rth +20

mkinney 88 +20

gamingforfact +25

theraffman +20

cc16177 +25

bhundeven +75

hansmrtn +5

cshort0982 +50

In this thread:

page 1

mandrsn1 +25

mohlsen8 +20

emerica +25

page 2

daemontus +15

1ManWolfePack +20

holyevilcow +20

ryokokoro +75

page 3

tuespazio +20

freak4dell +20

page 4

StephenMilone +10

redneck_666 +50

dsimages +20

page 5

n1ckr0th +20

natezire71 +20

skulldreamz +20

Jposton +10

digitaloutsider +25

page 6

sorullo_xgrx +10

apewall +20

soopervoo +10

TheDave1022 +10

MaddHatt3r +10

page 10

jac0b +50

page 11

Vivjen +100

Varking +50

page 12

cocchiararo +2

DroidOnRoids +15

digital_cha0s +40

total=1527
[Moto X General] SomeoneE1se:
+ another $20 provided it also works on the Droid Maxx
[Moto X General] jasoraso:
In for $20
[Moto X General] Dragon31337:
I've already posted here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=49501286

But will participate here.

Count in my $25 if boot-loader unlock work on Droid Maxx.
[Moto X General] NJGSII:
$20 no matter if I have the phone or not.

That doesn't mean I'm getting rid my phone because of not being able to unlock. As you can see from my sig, I have an addic....sincere fascination of mobile devices. :D
[Moto X General] Ezekial:
$20 from me
[Moto X General] Dragon31337:
Please update the first post and thread titile. We are far beyond of posted amount.

We should attract talented people. =)
[Moto X General] ambient711:
$20 from me
[Moto X General] The Race To Die:
50 here
[Moto X General] kicker22004:
anyway we can add the poor old Republic Wireless version? it's rooted and has safestrap also?
[Moto X General] dlscott1111:
$20 from me
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
IMO, There needs to be a Kickstarter campaign, you guys need something to generate press. I can almost guarantee you could entice someone at Moto to leak something for 50k-60k (or even start a developer race). The legality of it all is pretty grey, but with the moves Motorola has been making lately, I'm pretty sure they have at least 1 disgruntled employee.
[Moto X General] cocchiararo:
But kickstarter can't be used as a bounty, can it?

Tapatalk - Moto X XT1058
[Moto X General] jcase:
No leak is going to help you on this.

No it can't
[Moto X General] digital_cha0s:
Damn the luck
[Moto X General] jwthompson:
If this isn't a troll...it looks like someone could be cashing in the money in the bank.. https://plus.google.com/108504253507350757415/posts/2aJKKwoNZwK https://plus.google.com/114258837182292126366/posts/gZpQr8VLcMU

Sent from my xt1060vzwDE
[Moto X General] :
Give me the bounty. I've got a great workaround....in the end you'll easily have root and an unlocked boot loader.

I'll trust I'll get paid and just tell you. ;)

Sell it.....buy a phone that can be unlocked. Sim unlock it....and win. :)

Couldn't resist. Sorry. Don't ever buy a phone again that can't be unlocked. Ever. :)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

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P.s. my bank account number for the money is 5.

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
Not sure about this. Says he won't share it. Seems wonky.

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] mattlgroff:
Source
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
People should not joke about such things. It plays with my emotions. Lol

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
Agreed, we should troll his page hard for being such a douscher. Should've known it was too good to be true with his (incorrect) fastboot image he posted.
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
[MENTION=4370056]mattlgroff[/MENTION] are you working on this??

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] mattlgroff:
No.
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
Man, that was the quickest response in history.

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.

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Okay then, what's the worst that could happen if someone was going to try a method already released. Hard brick? Or it just wouldn't work?

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Go for it:D
[Moto X General] stillthisguy:
If/when this is released, I will give it a go.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
That's a really big if. By same here
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
I don't see it happening. No one has even said they're working on it.

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] Schaweet:
Yeah not trying to be a downer or a jerk, but this just isn't going to happen folks.

Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
I wouldn't get too down about this guys, the devs on the Atrix 2 did some great things with KEXEC (the process of unloading kernels after boot and loading a custom one). Also BMM is an awesome multiboot manager. Personally I would like to see it ported to every major device.

In fact, I would highly suggest someone with a locked BL use his tool (it pulls system info that he needs to build the recovery for).

http://dl.projectlense.com/download.php?file=bmm/com.projectlense.bootmenu.getinfo.apk

Here is the link to the GP store app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.projectlense.bootmenu.manager
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
It looks like support has be discontinued. Website link goes no where.

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
Works for me.

Sent from Xposed Moto X 4.4
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
Whaaaaaaaaaat!?

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.

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When clicking the upper link I get a "no data received" page.

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] stillthisguy:
Think they meant the link works for them.
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
I get that, but it doesn't work for me and the play store app gave an error after install

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] stillthisguy:
Link doesn't work for me either. The PS app says it has been discontinued.
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
Ha! I knew I wasn't crazy. Lol

slapped the sh*t out of my X

if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
[Moto X General] mkinney88:
is it possible if you have the moto x blankflash files to modify the bootloader_single.bin to unlock the bootloader at the install process?
[Moto X General] Max725:
I believe this is the change since the OP was updated. Even if bootloader unlock is not likely, the thread might as well be kept accurate. It is, after all, the first result in a Google search of "Verizon Moto X bootloader unlock" (without quotes) and the fifth result without "Verizon", and the total sum from the thread title is prominently displayed on the results page.

$15 daemontus
$10 holyevilcow (additional)
$25 ryokokoro (additional)
$10 tuespazio
($50) wera750
$20 freak4dell
$25 geekability (additional)
$10 StephanMilone
$50 redneck_666
$20 dsimaged
$20 n1ckr0th
$20 natezire71
$20 skulldreamz
$10 Jposton
$25 digitaloutsider
$10 sorullo_xgrx
$20 apewall
$10 soopervoo
$10 TheDave1022
$10 MaddHatt3r
($50) ninjaclipse
($20) hippstar1981
$50 jac0b
$100 Vivjen
$50 Varking
$2 cocchiararo
$15 DroidOnRoids
$40 digital_cha0s
$20 SomeoneE1se (must also work on Droid Maxx)
$20 jasoraso
$25 Dragon31337 (must also work on Droid Maxx)
$20 NJGSII
$20 Ezekial
$20 ambient711
$50 The Race To Die
$20 dlscott1111
$20 Max725 (if the OP is updated)

$692 Net change

$1872 Total
[Moto X General] General Crespin:
$10
[Moto X General] Dragon31337:
Make me $100 instead of $25, it still should also work om MAXX as I stated before =)
[Moto X General] bisbers:
$25
[Moto X General] weldawadyathink:
I cannot say from experience, but it seems the Chinese have successfully unlocked the Verizon bootloader (not sure about ATT). Somebody said that it works in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234

Chinese seller page:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.61.r70vRg&id=37333625825
[Moto X General] NightThyme:
I am not trying to encourage nor discourage anyone who wants to do this, but this is not some dev who has cracked the Moto X bootloader. Read here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50663163&postcount=17

In my line of work, I would lose my career if I were caught buying one of those codes. YMMV.
[Moto X General] weldawadyathink:
I have not bought a code, and I am not yet sure whether I will or not, but what this means if nothing else is that there are no blown fuses or whatnot, the only prevention against unlocking Verizon and ATT models is that the website does not give codes for these models.
[Moto X General] NightThyme:
Good point so all you need to do to crack the Moto X locked bootloader is trick the bootloader into thinking it received a valid code. You don't actually need the code.

Again, I am neither attempting to discourage nor encourage anyone. Just speaking for myself. I work in somewhat of a stuffy field and my clients would ditch me in a heartbeat if I were caught doing that. I am sure most people who post here aren't similarly situated.
[Moto X General] gbrewman:
Add another $25 dollars for the bounty from me.
[Moto X General] vtmike:
It works.
[Moto X General] :
And the proper thing to do is send them this bounty. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X General] vtmike:
Not sure. They are charging $40 for each phone so their making money.

Not to mention the sellers seem to be middle men and not the ones that obtained the codes.
[Moto X General] :
Sounds like a renege to me. LOL. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....