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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ikeny:
I have both iPad and iPad mini, and Nexus 7. I love N7's file system and ability to use OTG for file transfer. But there are a few things good about the iPads.

- Screen size, portrait mode on iPads is more useful for web browsing, document reading. Too narrow in 16:9 format. I wanted to use landscape more on N7, but the home button bar (and keyboard) is taking up to much space for landscape to be effective.

- Stability. Random reboot is non existent in iOS.

- Apple store support. You can have free, in-person, Apple store support.

- Easy backup and restore of EVERYTHING, to computer and cloud.

- Greater selection of accessories, and availability of parts from after markets.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zwuncki:
And what about Samsung? Officially being charged for paying people to badmouth products of other companies like HTC in many forums.

I don't think any company is innocent but Samsung without a doubt isn't less evil than Apple. To me and many others Samsung is even less likable than apple.

And I too think that iOS apps are much more built for apple tablets than android apps are for android tablets. Android apps, most of the time, look like giant cellphone apps. iOS universal apps are looking like made for tablet mode most of the time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] godutch:
Just as an individual has many ways to make money, like there are other which will blatantly rob and some which try to cheat or use (whichever way you chose to call it) for their own benefit and those that could do the previous two things but instead chose to work hard and provide goods and/or services the people want. Like people can chose, so can companies, Apple choses the second option, whilst it might be legal it is still immoral.

Most tech companies use patents defensively and only use them when attacked, but not so Apple. Apple doesn't like it when people chose products on their own merits, except Apple products and choses to use the legal system to ban their competition. To me they are truly evil

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Well they can bad mouth all they want but they never tried to ban other companies products (except for Apple of course in retalition)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
You know how many patent cases are filed every month ? apple as the biggest fattest kid in the block just gets more coverage , there are enough patent cases between other major companies you just don't hear about, just because there aren't as high profile as apple.. so get out of the "Apple evil babble" .

Did you already forgot Motorola's patents vs Apple in Germany ? after Motorola filed the suit apple counter suit them .. and there are the Nokia vs HTC ,and many more .

Apple is just one of the companies that do so .. sadly you only see what you wan't to see .. every big corporation is looking for money and no more , they don't care about making the best phone, they care about selling the most phones, and making it better will of course help with this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
I've used Apple for decades but stop buying them when they resorted to killing competition and consumer choice. Back then there was none of the patent trolling that Apple engages in and as a consumer you had the freedom of buying Apple, Commodore, Atari, etc. As an informed consumer I appreciate freedom of choice, competition that spurs innovation and that keeps prices sane so I don't get the stupidity of Apple-only pumpers. You can say I share Steve Wozniak's view. He's the original co-founder of Apple but is open minded and isn't afraid to call POS when they are. Apple's recent iPads and iPhones are overhyped overpriced mediocre POS running an OS designed for children. Take for example A7 which was rushed and flawed gimmicky 64-bit that is suffering from blue screen of death. They only had one A7 device and can't even do basic QA on their own handful of apps. Even worse is it's still 1GB DRAM and suffers from closed background apps switching just between two from my experience. Been there, outgrew the Apple tricycle and don't want them to restrict my buying choices.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] msavic6:
You have so much hate, its almost as if the company personally slapped you in the face.

Sure, the iPhone is a garbage phone in comparison to android smartphones but the tablets seem to be much closer in relation.

I have owned an android tablet for the past 2 and a half years and am tempted to see what all the hype is about in regards to the iPad. You can't deny that the new iPad Air set the bar high in regards to form factor and weight plus the premium build.

Apple manages to sell 170 million iPads which are obviously over priced yet most android tablets which are cheaper and arguably a better value haven't sold nearly as well over the years.

When I bought my Motorola Xoom, I fully expected android tablets to be dominating by this time, but that hasn't exactly happened, sure they are selling well but that is because of the Amazon tabs and Google's Nexus 7 which are selling for really cheap.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kaftoy:
After getting burned with my NEXUS 7 2013 (unusable due to screen problems), I will for sure try the new Mini with retina display. It cannot be worst than the Nexus.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
One post iTroll since 12/2012? Enjoy your blue screen of death. At least the Asus touch issue is fixable by restoring ts10 firmware and there are other choices from Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. What choices are there besides Apple? None. Might as well move to a communist country where you don't have the freedom of choice.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kaftoy:
That's true. Probably I am too frustrated now because I don't usually get burned with gadgets. I love Android and it's ecosystem, but the screen problems are just infuriating. And the ts10 or 20 or 30 fixes don't work on all devices.

Btw, I am not a troll, just express a real opinion. If next week I return the nexus, I will wait for the Mini 2. This is what I will do even if you agree or not with me. And to be a troll I should have said something like "apple rulz" or "android sux" which I did not. I just said I will give it a try.

I have not posted ever on the account because I didn't need to. I created this account in 2012 when I got my first Android device (LG Optimus Black) and I use it to read the forums on that section. Sorry you think of me that way.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
You can't call A7 a POS, it gives the performance of Snapdragon 800 clocked almost twice as high and has half the cores.. and the software is really a subjective thing.. WHO CARES if you think it "designed for children" , other people might think it Design for everyone.. or are you implying that Android is for "grown up people" and iOS is for 10 year old kids because you said so ? because let me tell you something.. with your kind of language one would think you are the "kid" ..

Also, their isn't any proof yet that the new iPad's have 1GB of LDDR3 like the iPhone 5s , and their is a chance that they have 2GB , when the first iPad was announced it came with A4 and 256MB of Ram, then the iPhone 4 was announced with 512MB of Ram , so even if its the same chip it can contain different memory configuration .. but to be honest i am sure iOS can live with 1GB , compared to android. My nexus has 700MB used memory even when all apps are closed so it does need the 2GB headroom , iOS needs it much less.

BTW , back to the A7 , its not the 64bit , its the fact that it based on ARM's newest architecture - ARMv8 , its the first device to use it as the reference ARM cortex cores based on this architecture aren't ready yet for mass production , its architecture is more advanced and efficient, the 64bit support is of course a bonus .. and unlike what most people thinks it has more benefits aside form the more than 3.25GB RAM support .

Samsung is at least half a year from announcing a working Exynos 6 model based on ARMv8 , and they can't do any thing about it .. also the reason apple rushed this architecture is so all the A7 based devices will be future proof so it will be able to support this devices when ARMv7 is no longer supported by the OS and apps.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
About as convincing as someone complaining about rights violation and then wanting to move to North Korea. Btw, how's Apple weekend pay?

Oh and enjoy the screen inaccuracy along with the blue screen of death.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/tests-show-iphone-5s-and-5c-touchscreens-are-inaccurate/

http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/11...g-blue-screen-of-death-error-with-iwork-apps/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
More apple bashing pls ?

Its not like anyone really cares about iPhone's in Android forum like XDA "made for adults" , if you want to bash apple with other Samsung 15 year old sheep's please find another forum...

This is a Thread about a comparison with the iPad Mini 2 , hardware , software , ecosystem , not if you like or dislike apple for no apparent reason .
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kaftoy:
I don't really get the nerd rage against me. I hope it stops here, mi7chy. Don't be a child. I don't need to convince you of anything. One more reply addressed to me calling me Apple fanboy and I take it personally. If you can't go past my post count, it's your problem.

The topic is Nexus 7 vs iPadMini2. Take it or leave it, man.

btw, I have attached a pix with my nexus 7, i do own one and don't just bull**** it for no reason.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
We should open a camera suggestion thread, your current one sux too :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
iTroll, this is a Nexus 7 (2013) forum and not for iTrolls to spread lies. No need to get emotional when I show facts that iDevices aren't perfect either.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
The only thing your contributed to this thread is bashing the A7 , a chip many engineers work on , many millions were spend .. then you "contributed" your so called opinion about iOS (which is more of a bs story then opinion) .. the only facts you showed were the touchscreen bugs which talked about the iPhone's ..

As i said, if you only wan't to troll apple hate go to the comment section of Engadget , a place when apple bashing is possible on every article, even on car ones .....
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kaftoy:
I didn't get emotional. Don't reflect on me the way you actually feel. I stated I will try the Mini 2 and you started raging against me. I said I don't own any apple device (I do own 3 android devices, 2 mine, 1 my wife's) and you started nerding about some iproducts screens of death. You are the emo dude here.

Just don't address me anymore, PLEASE. Let the mods "kill" me if they think I am trolling on a topic of "X vs. Y". The nature of such a topic itself is very subjective.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] godutch:
I think that when one product is made by an amoral company(asus/google) and one by in immoral company(apple), it's an important consideration.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
But then again , who made you decide who's immoral and who amoral ? As i see it every big corporation - Key word is corporation has one goal, make money .. its not like Asus is perfect .. and its not like google hasn't been sued infinite amount of times ...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
More iTroll lies. Google promote healthy competition by partnering with other companies like Samsung, Asus, LG, Marvell, etc. Apple try to kill competition Samsung, Google, HTC, Motorola, etc. and even non-competition like Polish supermarket http://a.pl.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/apl-apple-grocery-store_n_1873264.html

Even if Apple fix the blue screen of death A7 POS the company is still a POS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
Google and apple are very different company's , google has no chance in maintaining market share by its own when it comes to android , and even if they could , they are software company .. apple is the complete opposite , it is a hardware + software company , when you make your own hardware its normal not to partner with any one.. at the end you wan't your hardware to sell and not others.. google doesn't care if you most of the market is by samsung or HTC or Motorola or whatever , they only care about how much android devices will be there , so they could be available to as much customers that will use google ecosystem , and of course with that they more people will see ads that google provide = more money to google..

so as you see ,just like apple , in the end it comes to money , nothing else...

Btw , it amazing how i try to talk to you in a civilized way, while you call me "iTroll" all over .. and to that i will tell you LoL .. i personaly own a Nexus 7 2013 32GB , Atrix 2 , my mom had the original Xoom , then i recommended her to buy a Note 10.1 which she currently owns , most of my family has android phones ... iTroll i am not.. yes i had an iPhone 4 that i bought few month after the launch , and i liked it , but times changed and as android became better i switched without a problem . So don't call every one that isn't an Apple hater "iTroll" you just look like an idiot .. which i think you actually are - no offense .
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kaftoy:
Nexus 7 produced 2 years in a row with ASUS while Nexus 4 is going to be LG again. So this pretty much make your argument about healthy competition null. Google makes money.

This is what I don't understand about some people today, especially the younger ones. The fanboysm when it comes to private companies. I could never ever be one. I owned both Intel and AMD and bought the one I thought it's best for me then, I did the same with AMD vs Nvidia (owned several board from each) and I will not hesitate to try an Apple product only based on philosophical ****. I am long gone believing in **** like "don't be evil" or "think different".
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
LOL You haven't made one post since 12/2012 and already you have 5 in about one hour in an iTroll ripe thread.

No one is stopping you from using an Apple POS. Even encouraged you to do so here.

Seriously, go enjoy it instead of iTrolling and spreading lies in a Nexus 7 (2013) forum. We don't go trolling in Apple forums when iPOS have issues.

Btw, current Nexus 10 is Samsung but next Nexus 10 is Asus so you're wrong again. Don't forget to collect your Apple bonus check. :laugh:

Now that the iTrolls are lured out and known there's no need to go back and forth. ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] iamezio:
I really like how respectful you are to the other members of XDA .. and to be honest i really hope you will get banned , XDA isn't a place for ignorant kids who just want to bash appe, maybe instead of writing nonsense all over this thread point out reason in favor of the Nexus 7 , and just bs about apple and whats not ..

As i said , being open to the market options , and seeing iOS as a competitive option for the customers isn't being "iTroll" its being smart, you call him fanboy and what not ever when he clearly point out he has only android devices , and still you call him "iTroll" just because you can't stand the fact that he isn't agreeing with you ? that's plain stupid .

seriously , grow up .. i really can't imagine what wrong apple did to you so you bash them all over this android forum .. you was wrong , you are wrong then Samsung sheep's , they at least troll on the different blogs and news sites , not on XDA like you .. THIS FORUM IS FOR GOWN UPS , NOT SOME IGNORANT KID THAT IS PROBABLY BEING BEATEN AT SCHOOL , AND DON'T KNOW ANY THING ABOUT RESPECT .
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zwuncki:
So every one here who isn't only using google products is an iTroll?

Sry but to me you're the only troll here (and you haven't even called me an iTroll yet).

There are people in each forum who are noncommited, who are open to everything and use products from different companies. This is an iPad Mini retina vs Nexus 7 thread and the only thing you are doing is off topic bashing. Do you even own an iPad Mini Retina or plan to own one? Clearly not.

Can people here plz just post about what this thread is about. iPad Retina vs Nexus?

I know apple fanboys are totally closed minded, didn't know google fanboys are that extreme too ^^
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] msavic6:
Anybody owned an android tablet and switched to an iPad? Im wondering if there is an actual noticeable difference in tablet apps.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 145ty:
Yeah there is as far as tablet optimized apps go. The thing with Android is an app is an app, you buy it and it scales across each device. Some do have optimizations for apps as well. Android has more interesting apps though, emulators, torrent/nzb downloaders etc.,

The tablet app issue is and can only improve, also there are rumors of Google starting to push tablet optimized apps and will have its own section in the store by end of November.

(I've owned an Transformer Prime, iPad 3 and 4, Nexus 7 (2012) and Surface RT and now a Nexus 7 (2013)) and will say for me Android has the better app selection barring ''tablet'' apps. Windows RT apps were pretty bad overall and miles behind Android/iOS, but even then all three have the main apps people use.

My only complaint about the Nexus 7 is I do find the screen a tad too small. I'd love a 7.5-8'' Nexus device.

As far as Nexus 7 vs iPad Mini 2, both will be great. Price point wise the Nexus 7 obviously beats the iPad Mini 2 because it is almost double the price. Personally I was waiting for the iPad Mini 2...then the price was announced. They should have went for $299 Retina with A6 processor, $399 Retina with A7, $499 iPad Air and scrapped the iPad 2. They need to change the $100 upgrades as well for more space, that's too steep. But as long as people keep buying them, they will keep doing this. (Die hard apple fan of a friend bought two iPhone 5S 64gb off contract unlocked...)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Divine_Madcat:
Well, this is going nowhere fast, so i am going to kill this here.

I want to remind EVERYONE here, that respect between user is UTMOST priority, and that such flaming is not tolerated. If you have a problem with that, please choose another forum to be disrespectful on.
[General Questions and Answers] kdridi:
I've compiled and flashed my SGS4 with the sources from: https://github.com/AOSP-S4/aosp_manifest

Found from: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397511

The compilation was successful but i get stuck on the boot logo (/data /cache /dalvik wiped using cwm).

adb logcat shows some service startup problems with mediaserver like :

I tried to disable the media service and dependencies in the ramdisk init.rc just to see if the remaining still work without success

I got some

Any advices?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] tanw42:
So my TMobile HTC got the update on Monday as well. The only thing I did was unlock the bootloader, rooted the phone (which gave me ClockwordMod Recovery), and that was it. Once I did the OTA update, it rebooted to ClockwordMod Recovery and said installation aborted. What can I do about this to get 4.1.3? Thanks.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] z0phi3l:
Revert to stock, you can't update a rooted or unlocked device
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] WoodenDiamond71:
Well I like to flash custom roms on my S3, but re-downloading all of my apps over and over again is annoying i was wondering if there is a way to download them all at once so i dont have to go through this process. Thanks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Whiplashh:
You could just do a backup with Titanium backup, Mybackup, or app backup & restore.

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Sprint Galaxy S3

Stock - Whiplashh Rom - MIUI - Wicked Sensations

Hit that "Thanks" Button if I helped you!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] WoodenDiamond71:
Yea i tried out titanium backup yesterday when flashing CM10.2 and it worked pretty good. Thanks!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] montecarlo5:
there are also options when setting phone up after fresh flash for google play to save your data and apps and also re-install them by itself. its in the choices after you login to your google account. just read the screens. granted it wont restore your progress in any of your apps, but will install automagically :D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] WoodenDiamond71:
Thank you for the tip :good::good::good::good::good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Romokos:
With Knox and the snapdragon version coming out. What are the realistic chances of getting quality custom ROMs for our awesome tablets.

thoughts?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ckelly33:
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Crazypinoy:
The Note 10.1 2014 only comes with a Snapdragon 800 as far as I know...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] cspradlin:
The currently released version (WiFi) of the GN10.1 2014 has an octa-core Exynos5. NOT the new Snapdragon. Considering just how much coverage went into the big.LITTLE architecture, an the various enquiries and wariness on the parts of reviewers about the Exynos Chip as compared to the Snapdragon, just how many people DIDN'T know about it?

I mean, it's a MAJOR decision maker/breaker for some people!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] allan1313:
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SomeGuyDude:
I have seen nothing suggest there's a Snapdragon version coming out.

That said, can someone tell me why that would halt development?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] allan1313:
AFAIK Samsung does not release any source code for exynos stuff while Qualcomm does release code for the snapdragon processors. But I could be mistaken.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Romokos:
Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.

The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).

The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] zepfan221:
Unfortunately, I don't think the price is going to help :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] graffixnyc:
Honestly, The Note is the only one of my devices where I never got rid of TW. Not that I like it, I hate it and will theme it out so it's not so ugly, use a different launcher etc.. but the TW features on the note is what I buy the note for. Especially how deeply integrated the S-pen features are. Sure there are other note taking apps out there (lecture notes.. etc) but I always preferred s-note, and now on the 2014 model even more so, s-note is a lot better now. I think using an AOSP based rom on this type of device is kinda a waste but that's just my opinion. I usually will theme it out to look as much as stock android as I can.. All my other devices I'm constantly flashing stuff on. My old note 10.1 has been running the same rom for about a year. haha
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] californiarailroader:
Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ckelly33:
You are right.

As far as the OP goes, I don't think there is any word that a snapdragon version is coming out, is there?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] MartiCode:
As far as I know, Wifi-only versions (P600) get Exynos while 3G (P603) et 4G (P605) have Snapdragon S800.

I have a 4G version and it clearly has a S800 in it.

Now looking forward to get root and remove most of Samsung bloatware...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] californiarailroader:
NM, delete this.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] john10101:
According to this Engadget review

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-2014-edition/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Mr_Armageddon:
I wouldn't worry too much....

The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.