yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] southern87:
My question about the frequency is..

UTMS 1700 or LTE band 4 for att isn't used in all markets. It's provides extra bandwidth. Secondly according to att product site for moto x and basically every other site Band 4 is supported for LTE anyways on att moto x.

The 700 block b is the main LTE freq for reference.

T-Mobile uses utms 1700 for LTE and 3g at while it rolls out lte on that freq.

So you are not gaining a frequency.

What app did you use that's says what freq you are on?
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Stoked for bricked kernel:D
[Moto X General] tocirah1:
I realize this seems kind of silly, but how long are the unlock codes? And could I just write a script to keep trying codes until I get the correct combination? Or would my phone eventually lock me out.

Edit: Nevermind, it's a 20-digit hex string. That would take forever to search.
[Moto X General] jaredtritsch:
Count me in for USD $30
[Moto X General] theascended:
Didn't make it with the Chinese contact, but I'll dedicate the $40 I would have spent here.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
BTW, the option of buying the Bootloader Unlock Code from the Chinese site or middleman appears to have dried up as of March 29 or 30. There initially was no contact from the seller in a few days, and rumors he got caught/fired/worse.

As of April 1 & 2, some people who paid via pay pal but didn't receive their code are reportedly getting their money refunded with a note from merchant saying "Services Closed"

So its back to the regular PLEDGE/BOUNTY discussions...
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
I'll pledge $40 for a verizon bootloader unlock for my moto X
[Moto X General] SwaDiddy:
Chinaman

Hey. Is the chinaman really finished since Match 29th? That's the exact day I ordered my phone and a day ago received it and sent him $40 before reading here from someone that he might have disappeared?
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Read the thread -> http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651 (last 40 or so posts should give you enough)
[Moto X General] SwaDiddy:
FML!!! This blowwwwwsssss I need the bootloader unlocked. I just bought thedamn phone. Verizon I hate you so much. I'm leaving after 22yrs of this crap with you. It's not worth it anymore.
[Moto X General] :
As has been suggested by others....sell your near new phone privately and put the money towards the dev edition. Done. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] JoeDroid:
Why not just return the phone to moto and buy the dev edition???
[Moto X General] SwaDiddy:
I got it through an upgrade on contract for $50. The developer is $450 full price.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Dude, relax.

Sorry, but if you really *NEED* the bootloader unlocked, then you shouldn't buy a phone from Verizon. Because other than a Developer Edition (or possibly Google Play Edition) android phone, you can never guarantee the boot loader will get unlocked.

It was pure "luck" that someone inside Moto got access the unlock codes for the stock devices and started selling them (and stupidity and risky on that person's part considering what could happen if caught and fired, and if they could be prosecuted. If charges get filed, how will that impact his future? Who in the tech world would hire someone like that now?). It was only a matter of time before Moto found out what was going on, and took actions to stop it. It wasn't going to last forever... and I always assumed that anyone who unlocked this way, would likely be stuck if they needed a replacement X in the future (like warranty, buy another due to non-warranty defect)...

The X having PwnMyMoto/RockMyMoto/SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo for 4.2.2-4.4 to root and disable write protection, but getting plugged by the 4.4.2 update, is no different than the Galaxy S4 having Loki initially but it getting plugged by a later firmware update. And so on..

As phone makers and Google focus more on security and privacy, its going to get harder and harder to unlock and root Android phones without the carrier and/or phone maker's cooperation (i.e. Developer Edition devices).

---------- Post added at 11:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:20 AM ----------

Sounds to me like PRICE was more important than guaranteed ability to unlock the bootloader without voiding the warranty.

Right now you have to weigh your options... Keep the locked X you paid $50 for. Try and sell it to reach the ~$450(plus tax?) it would cost to get a Developer Edition X for Verizon. Return your X, and save your money till you can afford the Developer Edition X. Or investigate what other phones can be easily unlocked, return your X, and buy the other phone which might be unlockable.

Suggested reading -> [DEAL] How to Get a FREE Verizon Moto X Dev Ed if You Have an Upgrade Available

Oh, and while you look at other phones that might be unlockable or rootable.. Don't forget to see how "future proof" their unlocking/rooting methods are. Will they work on future roms, bootloaders, hboot, etc? (like will future updates break root/unlocking? or will it still be usable?). That is one thing the Developer Edition X provides... it can be unlocked no matter what ROM, Bootloader, upgrade, etc gets put on the phone.

That is why so many are pledging in this bounty thread to find a way to unlock the bootloader on the Non-Dev Edition X. Its unfortunate, that a way hasn't been found.
[Moto X General] bigv5150:
I don't want to be a downer but you guys are delusional if you think anyone is going to unlock this boot loader. At least before end of life the moto x 2 will be out in what 5 months. People are going to be moving on from the x. Not saying it will never happen but I don't see it before this phone is obsolete. If you didn't take advantage of the China method your beat if it doesn't come back.
[Moto X General] :
I'd be sure to get an unlockable phone in the future is all. A few more bucks for a dev edition, or go to another carrier, or buy a compatible phone from another carrier and sim unlock it, buy used if on a budget.

Or if all else fails....get a different phone...that can be unlocked. Nexus are cheap.

Either way you go, if rooting and what not is any priority ....do not get a phone you can't unlock and hope hacks will be created....cause they might not be, or might not last.

Just my 2 cents. ;)

Oh....or get the locked phone on contract, sell it immediately UNOPENED and get an unlockable phone with a bit of extra cash. As already mentioned. :)

Sent from my N5, Moto X, N7, Gtab3 or S2....
[Moto X General] bigv5150:
Yeah I'm going that route use my upgrade get an iPhone and sell it immediately. Then buy a dev phone. I will never have another locked boot loader again. I got lucky with my maxx and being able to unlock it.
[Moto X General] wturner859:
Looks like [MENTION=4689871]DroidModder[/MENTION]X is about to be $1180 richer...

[MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC: Awesome work on the motox boot loader unlock [MENTION=4689871]DroidModder[/MENTION]X

https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/460158335786835968
[Moto X General] :
Well, what's he waiting for.....collect the bounty!!! ;)

Gratz to you locked fellows.....if its true and if its shared. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Wait, we have a way to unlock the boot loader now??? REALLY???
[Moto X General] wturner859:
This is very fresh news... It isn't public yet.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Any idea when it will be released? I can't wait!!! :D
[Moto X General] wturner859:
That single tweet from jcase is all the info there is at the moment.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Hmm OK. Still can't wait. Its going to kill me :P
[Moto X General] mh0520:
I'm pretty sure it's a joke. Read jcase's conversation with droidmodderx on Twitter right before he posted that.

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 PM ----------

https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/460158201288089600
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Dang :/
[Moto X General] mh0520:
Yeah, sorry. I was disappointed too. :/
[Moto X General] NWKENT:
Please do not post anything that is not factual..don't you see..those people love toying with emotions..speak of it when something is factual, otherwise you feed their high horse..

Sent from my 4.3_14.14.14

(Unlocked) XT1028 Moto G

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X General] wturner859:
The thing is... It was friggin jcase... If you can't trust him on the subject, you can't trust anyone.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
It was kind of a **** move on jcase's part...
[Moto X General] Tomyk89:
Apparently you can unlock the VZW non dev version now?

http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/topic/2752-newsmoto-x-unlock-verizon-consumer-moto-x-bootloader/
[Moto X General] :
Did you read the comments? Its done. No more.

Betting he was just being a middleman for the method we all knew about. They both ended the same time.

Sorry. :(

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] nrune:
I'll pledge $10.
[Moto X General] fk2106:
I came across this post a couple days ago. After playing around a little, I figured out how the boot loader key is generated.

Obviously, the split is at every '#' sign.

A000002xxxxxxxxx#5441383831303957565A00585431303238000000#B5029136D1CFE74A1C1FDDB92711440EE3BF9EEE#878C51020F0000000000000000000000

The first piece: A000002Cxxxxxxxxx is the MEID/Serial Number

The second piece: 5441383831303957565A00585xxxx03238000000 is unknown for now... may be unused

The third piece: B5029136D1CFE74A1C1FXXXX2711440EE3BF9EEE is the hash code

The last piece: 878XXX020F0000000000000000000000 is the phone UID or PUID

for some people whose MEID is of the form xAxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

The actual esn are the characters in the (0, 3, 2, 5, 4, 7, 6, 9, 8, 11, 10, 13, 12, 15, 14)th positions

for some people whose MEID starts with 99 or 98, omit the last 2 digits.

(Don't ask me how I know this ;) )

Lastly, it's almost or nearly impossible to figure out how to get the reversed code from these numbers
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
The unknown one might be the result of the other numbers being put through an algorithm and is what's used to authenticate the unlock code. Just a guess though
[Moto X General] fk2106:
Cracking the code will require a lot of example from the other moto g's, or a brute force like mentioned above. Or just a good dev that can erase and modify partitions.
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
It's probably the same for all Motorola phones so it doesn't necessarily need to be Moto X/G's. But as also mentioned above, it would take a VERY long time to crack it and even longer to brute force it. Like, hundreds of years. Not gonna happen. But rewriting partitions could work, I think. I don't know anything about that kind of programming so it might not be possible :/
[Moto X General] rippedmonkey:
How does this pledge thing work? I want to pledge but unsure how it will work. Do I need to pay immediately?
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
No. You just say how much you're willing to pledge and if someone comes out with a method, its announced on this thread and you send the money directly to the person who came out with it. DO NOT send it to anyone unless they found an exploit of some kind.
[Moto X General] rippedmonkey:
Okay, for the moment I want to pledge 50. If it even ever comes out it will probably be more.
[Moto X General] smirky:
Please someone find a way
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
(Probably) not gonna happen :(
[Moto X General] beefamato:
Does this likely mean that, in the future, the only way to have consistent full root access via the unlocked bootloader will be to purchase Developer Editions? Or is it just that people have moved on from the Moto X?

I would have gotten the DE this time, but the Verizon DE lacks one of the LTE bands that the maker version has.
[Moto X General] Vintage144:
most people with android phones have absolutely no knowledge of what they got, so basically they are Iphone and Winphone users , relatively small audience of people who want to mess with there phones (like us) , just how it is, Id say Motorola is still selling millions of these phones , but giving up acces isnt something will do , many carriers dont want this and most phone companies just dont care anyway
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
The general consensus here and in the bounty thread for the similarly locked down VZW 2013 Droid lineup is that yeah, in the future, the only way you're going to get an unlocked bootloader is by buying a DE, at least on Verizon. That being said, Verizon is the one screwing us over here, not Moto, as Motorola gives access to unlock codes for phones running with other carriers through its website, and doesn't give out the codes for non-DE Verizon phones at Verizon's behest. Blegh.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Yes. And this is true of not just Moto, but Samsung and other vendors as well. As they focus more on security, and android becomes more mature, finding and exploiting vulnerabilities to gain root and disable write protection will prove more and more difficult. Buying a DE is the only sure fire way if you want root and disable write protection.

As for the VZW Developer Edition lacking LTE bands... That is not true. The Verizon DE XT1060 is exactly the same hardware and rom wise as the Verizon Retail and Moto Maker XT1060. And they use the same SBF (Rom and Radio).

The only differences... DE only comes as black face, woven white back, silver accents (camera ring and buttons), 32gig, says Developer Edition on back, you can get the boot loader unlock code from Moto, and unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty. Where as the Retail Verizon X comes as black front, woven black back with silver accents, or white front, woven white back with silver accents, and 16 or 32gig memory. Moto Maker can be 16 or 32gig and front, back and accents can be customized. Retail and Moto Maker Verizon X can't get boot loader unlock code from Moto.

Could you have possibly been confused how the GSM Developer Edition XT1053 has AWS HSPA but lacks 2 LTE bands when compared to the ATT XT1058? And maybe thought that meant the VZW Dev Edition was different than its retail counterparts?

Incidentally, the GSM Developer Edition XT1053 is exactly the same as the "GSM Unlocked (comes with T-Mobile sim)" Moto Maker X which is also an XT1053 and these two use the exact same rom as well. But yes, the GSM Dev Edition XT1053 does support different bands than the Verizon Developer Edition XT1060.
[Moto X General] beefamato:
I had read that somewhere. I wish I could find it all on the same site for comparison, but here are 2 sites that list different bands for the devices:

Verizon site for regular Moto X reads LTE B13/4 700/1700

Motorola site for Verizon DE reads only 750 MHz (B13)

If Motorola's site is accurate about the Verizon DE, then it's missing band 4 (1700MHz). It's a bit frustrating if they are the same b/c I def would have bought the DE if they are.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
The specs listed on Moto's web site were posted when the X first came out, and had the initial 4.2.2 ROM and have not been updated since.

Band 4 (AWS) was added in the Android 4.4 update for the XT1060. It applied to both the Dev Edition and Retail/MotoMaker.

I can assure you, the Dev Edition and Retail/Motomaker support the exact same bands (if they are on the same firmware version).

On my VZW Dev Ed X I got LTE Band 13 before the 4.4 update. Since 4.4, I get band 4. How do I know this? When I put my T-mobile SIM in my VZW X before 4.4, I got HSPA as my fastest connection. With 4.4 and 4.4.2, I get LTE with my T-Mobile SIM since T-Mobile supports Band 4 LTE.
[Moto X General] beefamato:
Thanks for the info!
[Moto X General] rippedmonkey:
I want to up my pledge to 100.
[Moto X General] thebestiam:
For what
[Moto X General] rippedmonkey:
To the bounty to unlock the bootloader. I still have hope.
[Moto X General] :
100 plus selling your phone would pay for a dev edition. ;)
[Moto X General] jamesc760:
But that's not his point. Not everyone's out for himself, you know. It's bigger than money. It's the principle of the thing, damn it!
[Moto X General] chiefnoah:
Everyone here benefits if someone gets a method and offering a bounty encourages people to try
[Moto X General] :
Guys, I understand! Believe me. But someone desperate enough to pledge $100.....just wanted to point out he could use his current phone and that 100 and get an X he can unlock.

Now, if he's not in a panic, and just wants to give......then kudos for sure. ;)
[Moto X General] frankrocks:
I guess since the chinaman can't get some 2013 codes, i'll just have to add to this. count me in for $20. I have some hope, until my nexus 5 gets back to me.
[Moto X General] thelogman:
Couldn't get a code from middleman count me in for 30$
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
Disregard my pledge... got mine unlocked through the chinese middle man
[Moto X General] Wraith91:
I'll chip in $25. I'd love to see a bootloader unlock so I can finally root and wirelessly tether my phone. I want to put my unlimited data to good use!
[Moto X General] crashtheface:
anyone got the most recent link for the china middle man site?

looking to purchase a code today
[Moto X General] NWKENT:
Go to this thread >> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2751177

Sent from my 4.3_14.14.14

(Unlocked) XT1028 Moto G

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X General] :
This might be relevant:

http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/2cusuq/dan_rosenberg_unlocks_moto_x_bootloader

Has anyone actually seen him do it from the presentation?
[Moto X General] popcornmeat:
God bless dan
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
yea, could always pick up a sgs4/note 3. i heard some of att's htc devices can be unlocked provided you buy them exactly at launch and use em.
[Moto X General] mandrsn1:
I am contemplating trying the bootloader unlock from the Atrix HD on this phone.
[Moto X General] 1ManWolfePack:
Please report back and let us know how you unbricked it.
[Moto X General] jimmydafish:
That will not work for you at all, there is no need to try, worst case your soft brick, best case the phone won't let you wreck it.
[Moto X General] doobie711:
I told a friend of mine that has an Atrix that I tried that. He had this look like I was the stupidest person that ever lived.
[Moto X General] tuespazio:
I'm in with $10

:svetius:
[Moto X General] wera750:
Take me off of this list

Sent from my pwned Moto X
[Moto X General] freak4dell:
Add me for $20.
[Moto X General] mj0528:
Please take me off
[Moto X General] darkphoenix2x5:
This thread hasn't been updated in a while. Any progress?
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
May not be related, but there's a tweet out there noting there's magic in the air for our Moto X's - I upped my ante to $100
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
Could u share the tweet pls? Or from how is coming?
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
Like I said, this may not be related, but anyone who follows this topic should follow [MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
Thanks, i follow Jcase thats how i catch rockmymoto, he is a genius hopefully "the magic" is related to bootloader
[Moto X General] StephenMilone:
I'll throw in $10...wasn't that impressed with the nexus 5 to make me switch to tmobile. so i'll be getting a verizon moto x.

fan of jcase from my thunderbolt days too =)
[Moto X General] redneck_666:
Put me in for $50.
[Moto X General] dsimages:
So I was at the strip club last night and thought to myself, " How about I not slide this $20 in that thong and slide it to the Dev that unlocks this bootloader...".

So ya, throw me down for $20.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] wturner859:
Guess it wasn't that magical.
[Moto X General] aFancyTickler:
Anyone found out anything new ? or if a bootloader unlock is being worked on ?
[Moto X General] chinkster:
isn't the AT&T and VERIZON MOTO X part of the motorola bootloader unlock program? i was doing some research to make sure that the moto x bootloader can be unlocked before i buy it and ran across this:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/action/auth
[Moto X General] mcgrathpatj:
Oh Dios Mio

Carrier unlocked. Not bootloader unlocked.
[Moto X General] mar5hal:
Probably wouldn't be a thread offering over a grand if it were so simple ;)
[Moto X General] chinkster:
got it thanks guys
[Moto X General] n1ckr0th:
put me down for $20. AT$T is driving me crazy with these restrictions.
[Moto X General] natezire71:
Edit: I'm removing my bounty. I ended up switch to Safestrap months ago--so, this exploit isn't needed for me any further.
[Moto X General] sic0048:
If you buy the Developer Edition, then you can unlock the bootloader (even if you buy the Verizon Developer Edition). This bounty is being offered to anyone that can unlock the standard version of the phone.

The Verizon Developer Edition is down to $549 which is only $100 more than the Verizon off contract price. Not too bad IMHO. Probably worth the $100 bucks if you like to tinker with your phone.
[Moto X General] theraffman:
If they offered moto market for the Dev edition then I would buy it in a heart beat... But I'd rather have a custom moto than an unlocked bl. I don't see the necessity of an unlocked bl with the moto x... This phone is unlike many others, it doesn't require much to be done to be perfect, just root, exposed firmware and motoxsposed/gravity box.

Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] skulldreamz:
Put me down for $20
[Moto X General] Jposton:
Put me in 10. But I believe it will never happen. :crying:
[Moto X General] digitaloutsider:
Put me down for $25 in the hopes that if there is ever a Moto X unlock that it works on the XT1080/XT1080M as well.
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
Put me down for $10

Got MIUIFIED?
[Moto X General] apewall:
Adding $20 to the bounty list.
[Moto X General] soopervoo:
put me down for $10 for Verizon unlock on 4.4
[Moto X General] TheDave1022:
I'm in for $10 for verizon unlock
[Moto X General] aaronuser:
Damn, over $1k now. That's has to be worth some ones time to figure it out.
[Moto X General] TheDave1022:
The post hasnt been updated since the 24th/25th. I think it's around 1500 now
[Moto X General] aaronuser:
Post is updated often..he just hasn't changed the manually imputed date in a while
[Moto X General] freak4dell:
I don't think it's been updated in a while. I pledged some time ago, and my pledge isn't on the list.
[Moto X General] MaddHatt3r:
I can throw $10 at this.
[Moto X General] :
To most people with a reasonable full-time job, $1k is actually not a lot of money compared to the amount of time likely necessary to spend probing around, seeking a vulnerability.

I just poked around and it looks like the average developer is making ~$60k. A thousand bucks represents less than a week's pay. So they would have to research/investigate/test/package/troubleshoot an exploit in 40 hours to make it worth what their average hour is worth. And that's for an average salary, so people living in bigger metro areas are probably getting paid more, experienced developers are getting paid more, etc.

And that's with the (big) assumption that 100% of the pledges get paid.

Not that it couldn't be worth someone's time, just observing that a thousand dollars doesn't actually buy you a whole lot of a working professional's time.
[Moto X General] wildchild048:
Has anyone contacted Dan Rosenberg for help he is the master of bootloaders.
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
He has retired from this business

Tapatalking Moto X on AT&T
[Moto X General] sfetaz:
Can anyone explain to me why motorola phones have been so difficult to unlock the bootloader? All on verizon I have had a Droid X, a HTC Thunderbolt, the Samsung S3 and now Moto X and only Motorola phones seem to not get the bootloader unlocked. What does Motorola do differently from the other phone makers?
[Moto X General] wildchild048:
He has just unlocked the s4 recently.
[Moto X General] jcase:
S4 has not been unlocked

Sent from my HTC Two
[Moto X General] wildchild048:
https://mobile.twitter.com/djrbliss/status/336500002316771328?screen_name=djrbliss