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[Xperia Z1 General] zegun:
No one should blame you when talking about sounds :D

It's all about preference and placebo effect usually takes place..

But i had to disagree to some people who said "Z1 has a tinny sound" because Z1 is basically warm and flat, and no matter whoever people i talked to and tested the Z1, all of them agreed with me saying Z1 has a lush mids, even a tinny sounded ER4 sounds a bit lush with Z1.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I agree with you, mids are lush and the sound isn't tinny, not at all. I like tinnier sound and you can see what I've done with my EQ to get it :laugh: So definitely is not tinny. It's warm. And somewhere I've seen a link to some tests with conclusion that Z1 has a very flat response.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
ClearAudio on?
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
No. I use Clear Audio only with internal speaker and sometimes with stock headphones. But at home with my RS-160 I love to use the EQ (whether it is in PowerAMP or Sony's EQ).

You don't know what placebo is? Everything that depends on user's preferences can be subjected to placebo effect.
[Xperia Z1 General] ssuukk:
You're doing wrong! ;) I'm using 500 USD IEMs, and still they benefit from equalizer, of course not just simple equalizer set to some values that look good and sound fun, but to values that were choosen by calibrator. Each device, headphone pair, inner ear, brain have different response curves. If you like flat response in music, try XenoAmp headphone calibrator. :D
[Xperia Z1 General] zegun:
Oh dear, so i am wrong to listen to my device with flat EQ? So it's wrong of me to own both a $450 and a $1400 iem? So it's wrong of me to enjoy them at stock?

Id rather waste some more money making silver dragon cables for my ue or buy the fitear 000 cable to gain pure hardware performance rather than tweaking equalizers

But id take note that ive been wrong at how i dont like equalizers...

Thank you, dear sire
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
You can't say to him that he is doing it wrong. Every man has unique taste in sound as well as in music. If he likes flat, flat is the best for him. I like to boost bass and highs, so this is the best for me. I usually receive a lot of words that I'm doing it wrong and that flat is the way to go, but if I don't like it, why would I listen to something I don't like?

PS. your player seems interesting, maybe I'll give it a try but I still think that PowerAMP is unbeatable. I tried lots of android players, and I still didn't found any player that has at least the same amount of features like PowerAMP. Furthermore, in every player that I tried, some feature that I need was missing, Only PowerAMP has it all. For example, Sony's Walkman is missing folder browsing (without that I can't live because all my music is organized into folders and subfolders), second is that even with playlists I can't create subplaylists and a good hierarchy is very important when you have 30+GB of music on your phone. Third are Android's minimal lock-screen controls, which are lacking off swipe to skip option. Sometimes I have to change tracks without looking at my phone and this is impossible with android screen-lock controls, while PowerAMP's screen lock widget has all that options. And the fourth is a very good organisation, great queue, lots of options for repeat and shuffle etc. For example on a party: I usually listen to songs organised into folders. But when we're at a party, I took the best songs from all folders and I create a party-playlist and I put it on shuffle and repeat that playlist. And then, I friend wants me to play a song for him. I simply search for that song (with search option) and queue it. So the next song is that song and after it finishes, the playlist continues. PowerAMP is the best :)
[Xperia Z1 General] ssuukk:
That's why I've added the ";)" there. But then he wrote:

And I realised, I shouldn't have...
[Xperia Z1 General] pham077:
Hi Everyone

Just updated to 4.3 and seem to still have a sound 'ceiling' which I only just noticed a week ago, probably after the latest walkman update lol

When I listen to my music loud, and the range goes high it seems to get dumbed down and ruins the music and I have no idea what is actually doing it! Stopped using walkman and used poweramp and I am still getting the same thing.

I dont think I described it very well so apologies for that, but has anyone else noticed this?

Thanks
[Xperia Z1 General] zegun:
What headphone or earphone are you using mate?
[Xperia Z1 General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
Same hear :)

I noticed the same thing on the Z and now the Z1 - and it was prior to the 4.3 update.

I've found that using any digital processing - i.e. the equalizer, sound effect or, most importantly, Clearaudio, results in exactly what you're saying.

The only way around it I've found is to use another player (Poweramp for me) and disable all Sony audio enhancements - apart from dynamic normaliser - and then use PA's equaliser.

It's obvious that it's not the Walkman app per se - but the Sony sound effects that cause this.

I think, though I don't know - that's it's either a particularly poor implementation of a software volume limiter (perhaps in line with EU regulations?) or some kind of anti - clipping?

Whatever it is - it's rendered my Z1 pointless as a music player - so I now use a Fiio X3 +AKG K550's.

Rather defeats the object of an all - in - one device.

Though I am glad that somebody else has noticed this.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
I noticed that limiter too and sometimes it's going on my nerves and as I already said, the volume has the linear increase up to 50-60 % and after that it increases very very slowly, probably triggering the limiter.

I hope that this limiter can be removed by rooting the device.
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
The volume limiter reminds me the old thing with .wbxml audio drivers on Sony Ericsson phones...

It's something about that "law" to protect our ears :eek: ...

Some audio modders know what to do to disable hearing protection but don't share the right value to make changes.

I would really like to do this mod for audiophiles like us but i need the code to disable that f*cking hearing protection.

:(
[Xperia Z1 General] :
In some way I understand the point of that law... but the way Sony has implemented it is absolutely horrible.
[Xperia Z1 General] pham077:
Thanks guys - confirms it wasn't just me! haha

It is definitely annoying and I really do hate it because I love it when my music goes to the high range!

[MENTION=4724800]zegun[/MENTION] I am using ue900s and xbas

[MENTION=351396]gandalf[/MENTION] I'll try disable any sound effects i have on and hope it changes lol, thanks for the tip

I hope there will be more custom roms soon which allows us more flexibility with the control of the dac, really is a shame to have any phone with disappointing sound quality :(
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
Found the hearing protection thing in snd_soc_msm_Taiko and snd_soc_msm_Taiko_1x !

Will do some tests and share here if works.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
I was really surprised to find out that my Z1 has better sound quality than my laptop, comparing it to my ipod touch 4 however, its really hard to tell but it seems like with the ipod I can hear more background instruments, the difference is really small though. On the bright side I have an equalizer on the Z1 and can change the sounds to match my likings.

Btw I'm always using ClearAudio + poweramp.
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
Oooohaaa!!

Worked :D !!!

Man,this thing almost blow my ears but now it's fine tuned!

It's moderated,don't wait for extreme volumes or any kind of effect with a superlative name.

Just turned off the hearing protection for headphones and changed a lil bit the volume.

Tested on:

- Sony MDR XB30EX (105dB)

- Sony MDR EX85V (105dB)

- AKG K420 (126dB)

- AKG K321 (121dB)

- AKG K414p (125dB)

- Koss The Plug (112dB)

- Westone UM2 (119dB)

- Audio Technica ATH-CK7 (104dB)

- Sony default earphones (105dB).

(yeah,i love headphones)

Warning!!!

It's NOT a flashable zip!

You'll need to move it using Root Explorer to system/etc/snd_soc_msm and DON'T FORGET to give the right permissions!

Enjoy!
[Xperia Z1 General] hieupham7485:
sound is better on 4.3

compare to 4.2.2, i think sound on Z1 is better on 4.3. I often using walkman with my Yuin headphone and i feel it is more clear and bright than on 4.2.2.

p/s: sorry for my poor English :(
[Xperia Z1 General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
For the uninitiated - the correct permissions are....?
[Xperia Z1 General] qbic2:
Is resampling fixed in 4.3?
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
This way.

Sent from my Honami
[Xperia Z1 General] Ambroos:
The volume changes you sometimes hear are Clear Bass. Instead of just bumping up the bass frequencies it actually slightly lowers the volume of other frequencies when there's a lot of bass. With the right earphones you don't hear the variations but on speakers or large headphones it's very audible.

I've used Clear Bass with good IEMs for over five years now and you get used to it. It's a great way to gain the deep bassy feeling without losing any clarity in the mods and highs or by blasting away your ears. I use it at +4 on my Z1, +1 on Walkmans.
[Xperia Z1 General] krenogin:
Thanks for the mod! I'm a major audiophile, and when I made the switch from an iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1, it was the first thing I noticed. I use the headphone jack for my car stereo and it is god awful when it cuts the audio out. I just installed the mod and hopefully it was done correctly. I'm very new to android but I'm catching on fast. iOS just sucks in comparison. I'll leave a message later today when I commute home. (Fingers crossed!)
[Xperia Z1 General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
Tried the mod.

What it seems to do is completely disable ALL Sony sound enhancements.

So no ClearAudio, Dynamic Normaliser, Equalizer etc.

So the deviation in sound is gone - but this can be achieved by simply turning them off without the mod?

Rooted, removed original files, pasted new files, applied correct permissions and rebooted.

Maybe I've done it wrong - and if I have then apologies to the OP - and any advise would be appreciated.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
But this is just ridiculous! The volume level is pretty low, I don't believe that the DAC's amplifier itself has such a week output, so it must be limited by software. In that case, why the hell are they lowering other frequencies to gain bass!?!? They could just increase the bass without overpowering the amplifier and getting distortions, because it's already limited. For example, let's say that software limits the signal to 70% so it uses only 70% of amplifier power. By increasing the bass it can get up to 100% without distortions.

In case that the amplifier is weak, I don't have anything else to say than that Sony is using some low quality cheap DAC's.

So I think that limiting volume level and then using the trick which lowers all other frequencies to gain bass instead increasing the bass frequencies is a double fail.

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] krenogin:
Just tested what you said with the same outcome. I find this preferable in a sense. Is it possible to add on a playstore EQ?
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
You did something wrong...

I've tested many times before post it here.

Tested again and everything are working fine.

Can you explain/show where you put these files?

Sent from my Honami

Edit:

Found it!

It's the "disable" sequence in the code that resets and make any changes unusable in a second try.

(This is why it worked fine when i change the files,reboot and go to Walkman)

It's simple to fix,will post again when i come back from gym.
[Xperia Z1 General] Ambroos:
Well no. It's a gentler approach that works well if you ask me. Increasing bass levels would cause you to hit the maximum volume and you'll get clipping which sounds horrible (distortion). Want a better explanation? http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=441973&postcount=2

I'm sure there's some reasoning behind it. It's made specifically for in-ear earbuds and doesn't sound good with other stuff. Sony's sound engineers really know what they're doing.

On the volume limit, of course there is one. It used to be for Europe only but pretty much all brands started applying it everywhere. The Z1 at highest volume should really be quite loud with almost all earbuds and most headphones.
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
You didn't get my point, did you? I'm into these stuff and I know something about DACs and amplifiers but I'm not a native english speaker so I don't know how to express myself. It's true, if you push the bass to high ti will distort the sound and it will go into clipping. BUT, as we said, the volume is already limited, which means that pushing the volume rocker to the maximum doesn't actually send the maximum signal to amplifier, but a limited one. So, it's possible to increase bass a little without distortiong the sound. By letting the volume at the same level and increasing only bass will lead to getting maximum signal. Furthermore, if we push the bass to hard and it starts distorting the sound, we can easily lower the main volume a little bit. It would be much better if we can choose what we want.

For example, on my X10 I had a custom ROM where all the protections and limiters were removed. So I was able to use the DAC and amplifier in it's full power. If I increased the bass and the volume to the maximum, it was distorted but it was very loud. So I was able to increase the bass and just decrease the volume to get clean sound. When I decreased the bass, I could increase the volume. The sound was much better without all those limiters because it was normal, clean and natural.

An hour ago I was listetning to some old Eurodance and Dance music, I turned on Clear Audio + and Dynamic Normalizer and I pushed the volume to the maximum. I was able to hear some volume drops when the bass kicked. It was barely noticeable but enough to catch my attention.

So I wanted to say that if we remove all those limiters, we would be able to get the same volume with increased bass without volume drops. I will do a painting to better explain what I want to say.

EDIT: here is the picture: http://i.imgur.com/XAOcvHk.jpg So the left graphs show the sound without enhacements, and right ones show with increased bass. The top dashed red line represents the maximum input level without distorsions. The bottom blue dashed line shows limited level. So, the first row shows how I believe it currently is. So the volume is already limited below maximum possible level and why is there a need to lower the volume even more? On the second row it shows that by increasing the bass we're going above the limit line but we're still below the maximum line.

PS. the drawing is very imprecise, because the corners of the graph are rectangular :D which is so wrong. Furthermore, after the corner, it's linear (I did this in paint :P) which is also very imprecise (assuming ideal conditions) but I think you'll now get my point.
[Xperia Z1 General] taranfx:
Well I've tried Nexus 5, Note 3 (International) and Xperia Z1, I'm pretty sure, in terms of soundstage you cannot beat Z1 (provided no enhancements are switched on). I use Z1 with my overhead headphones ATH-M50 and sound is outstanding. They are pretty loud as long as Bass is at zero, raising it drops the volume below acceptable levels. I have onlyDynamic normalizer switched on (to have good volumes) and everything else (equalizer, clear blah) OFF on stock unmodified ROM.
[Xperia Z1 General] krenogin:
After using this mod in my car, I can definitely say this has overall improved the dynamics as though its just pure sound going through. As many people have mentioned when you turn the volume up past a certain point it basically raises the treble level and keeps the bass at a constant. This for me was unacceptable as I use my headphone jack for my cars AUX port.

My old iphone 4s did not do that, but the windows phone I had before it does the same as the Z1. Don't get me wrong its good for headphones but I don't want a virtual nanny saying I play headphones too loud, lets adjust the EQ and ruin music.

Thanks so much for the mod. All I need now is a good EQ as it disabled the useless sony one.
[Xperia Z1 General] Luhccas-X10:
Tried exhaustively but with no success...

If you change any value it will disable Sony sound enhancement.

The modification will work only for third part apps.

So,for Poweramp users or another player the modification will work but for Walkman users don't. :(

Sent from my Honami
[Xperia Z1 General] thegios:
Hi guys, sorry but have been erading the whole thread and one very simple thing is still not clear to me: how can I simply increase headphone volume?

I am using play music, as I have a subscription...

Thanks
[Xperia Z1 General] Zerousen:
You could try this mod.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2302748
[Xperia Z1 General] ssuukk:
It's rather obvious - if you set your volume to hardware maximum, and then set any frequency of the equalizer to a positive value THERE WILL BE CLIPPING. There are 2 solutions:

1) subtract highest positive gain value from all equalizer frequencies (i.e. if your equalizer is +2, +3, 0, +1, change it to: -1, 0, -3, -2)

2) use XenoAmp and tick "Volume guard" option that will automatically reduce maximum volume by the amount of highest positive equalizer frequency volume. :D

Buy a FiiO!
[Xperia Z1 General] xplod2841:
If you use Sony's integrated equalizer, that is done automatically. Try to set clear bass to the maximum and the loudness will drop a lot, but there will be no clipping.
[Xperia Z1 General] qinyanggl:
Was hoping it can utilize some Sony walkman DSP...
[Xperia Z1 General] krabappel2548:
AC!D mod is coming soon, almost finished but my Z1 is in for repair
[Xperia Z1 General] Vanarian:
Sound wise this phone does provide an excellent quality and a rich listening experience.

It is actually an upgrade over an IPhone 5, though Apple builds is products with Cirrus Logic chips. It also leaves Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2 in the dust.

Awesome phone for music on the go. I can't compare to Galaxy S4 but the last listening I had from one was not unforgettable so... It might not have been so good.
[Xperia Z1 General] :
I second this. The only thing I would like is slightly higher volume with earphones but the quality outweighs all my previous smartphones and my old trusted N95.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
Hey guys, just some things I've been curious about lately. I just updated to MI1 and rooted it. Is there any way to download safestrap and install custom ROMS such as CM 10.1? Can maybe give me the link to a YouTube video showing me how to flash roms with safestrap? Someone please confirm (or deny) affirmatively whether or not I can flash specifically CM and if not, what about any other ROM? I would probably prefer the stock 4.3 ROM over anything
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
you can not use cm roms or any 4.3 has to be 4.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
But 10.1 is 4.2.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt1733:
You can only use stock kernel with safe strap and cm has there own kernel so it won't work
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
What about AOKP or the stock 4.3 ROM?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] syoungblood95:
TW only. Stock kernel only.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
Are there any AOSP based ROMS that allow use of the stock kernel? If not, are there plans to show custom kernels in SS?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshm.1219:
It is impossible for an AOSP rom to be based on the stock kernel. There is a list of safestrap compatible roms in the general section, I would suggest Eclipse as it has AOSP styling.

Kexec support is being worked on which will enable custom kernels, but its going to take a long time.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
Wow, I only like AOSP based ROMS. Is there any way at all to flash CM or AOKP onto my rooted S4?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] riker147:
Not if you have ME7 or MI1.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
Why is it that I could flash with MDK and not with newer versions? Something with kernels?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
That's because the bootloader in the S4 is locked, and will not boot an unsigned recovery (i.e. an official one from Samsung.)

There's a bug in the MDK bootloader that allows bypassing that check, which allows a custom recovery to be installed and booted.

That custom recovery then allows you to install whatever ROM you like.

Releases after MDK have that bug fixed so there's no way to use a custom recovery. Safestrap allows you to start a custom recovery by using the standard kernel to get Safestrap loaded and started up. Since it's not running on the bare metal of the phone, Safestrap can't overwrite the bootloader or kernel, so you can only use ROMs that work with the standard kernel.

Eventually, if kexec gets working, Safestrap will be able to host nonstandard kernels, making many more ROMs possible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
That is sweet because I really want to try CM or AOKP. I will probably like AOKP better but who knows. Can I expect this update allowing for custom kernels soon?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
Who knows? That's why I said "if kexec gets going". If the devs can't figure out how to boot a custom kernel, Touchwiz-based ROMs are it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheScarySnail:
Oh okay. Thanks a lot though hopefully kexec does get going cause I'm not a big fan at all of touchwhkz
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] riaz321:
Have anybody tried phonealarm. If so what is the difference and which is better other than the price.

I want to decide which to purchase. Please help

Thanks,

Riaz
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spadeace9:
The only thing I miss about my iPhone is the ability to control my music through my car in-dash. I have read that USB audio streaming has been enabled in jellybean, but I have yet to see it work in my car. Is it the LG G2 it self? When I used to connect my Nexus 4 it detected it as a usb device but no audio, but the G2 doesn't even get detected...just charges the phone. And yes I have tried switching between the usb modes in PC connections tab.

any suggestions or apps?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dynamikd:
Safe to assume that you do not have BT capabilities in your car?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spadeace9:
Sounds better through USB plus it charges my phone.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spadeace9:
And no bt for music, only calls :(
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vivebatu:
You need to be rooted

Try multi-mount sdcard from playstore
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spadeace9:
did not work :(

yes I am rooted.
[HTC One X] nagel:
Hi, there was a ROM that retains Sense camera but everything else looks like Pure Andriod. I've looked and searched but can't seem to find it now. Does anyone know where to download that ROM now?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] newuser99:
I'm running into an issue where the phone does not power back on once it have been powered off automatically due to low battery.

Even after the phone is hooked up to charge, it doesn't power back on. Screen remains black, no battery charging status icon and holding the power button doesn't turn it back on. Keep in mind, its hooked up and charging.

The only fix is to remove and reinsert the battery. Once I've done that, I'm able to power the phone back on.

Any idea why I'm running into this issue? Anyone know how to remedy this? :confused:

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] newuser99:
I managed to fix this by flashing another ROM. I'm not sure if this is a known issue but this happened on two of my devices when using Cyanogenmod 10.0.