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[Ornate TrueSmart] acid123:
If your baseband isn't working,

Could this be cause of the device being rooted,

Try another sim,

Just pick up a sd card today so will set of mass storage works,

I'm using a data sim in my one...
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I am doubting its that as I factory reset it and it still doesnt work, I am going to try what you said tho.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Tried my other sim on a different network still no go :/
[Ornate TrueSmart] iraqigeek:
Does it still not appear in USB? Does it have a recovery? If there's any way to flash it, try re-flashing the SimValley factory images.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
It fails to find/install drivers on usb or says it doesnt know what I plugged in and yes it has a recovery

I would not reccomend this device to anyone tho its faulty crap in my experience and now im worried about if my omate I pre ordered is going to be as bad since the 414.GO is a rebrand of their prototype
[Ornate TrueSmart] Neuer_User:
Gonna get a AW.420 in the next days. Have two weeks to check it thoroughly. Will report when I have it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] acid123:
It's the USB cable that's messed up as even with a sd card it doesn't show up anymore as mass storage
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
i have it!

i have buy from www.orologicellulari.it ... 249 €

Root:

install USB DEBUG https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.tennkia.apr

install Drivers http://www.mediafire.com/download/22n1q034nb36fxd/MTK65XX_Driver.rar

connect smartwatch to PC

download and unzipp http://www.mediafire.com/download/a95gy0o8j4z0r6k/MTK6589_root_Tool_From_Geekbuying_motochopper.rar (password: geekbuying.com)

run the run.bat inside the tool

reboot!

for my device is right!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Could have swapped out motochopper for Framaroot. I also suggest MTKTools as well. I'm deving on the TS Engineering model (AW-414), EC309 (AX-2 Comet) and the TS Dev Edition (when I get it). It's still early and many things need to be fixed on all three but as this are my first MediaTek devices I'm learning their quirks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] squeenix:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION]

Do you know whether it may be possible to get Omate's TrueSmart ROM (or any Custom ROM) onto the EC309?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The TS ROM cannot be directly installed as the core HW is different. I'm working on a tuned stock EC309 ROM right now but there are some power profile issues that are going to take some time to fix and on device edits are painful with the tiny screen.
[Ornate TrueSmart] squeenix:
Hey, but that sounds great! I'd love to test your tuned ROM later. :)

Frankly, I was hoping that somebody would make a Custom ROM that is based on Android 4.2 or higher, though. I imagine that would increase the very poor battery life quite a bit. :D
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
My AW-414 has been shipped this morning, i should receive it tomorrow :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] iraqigeek:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION],

How many voltage/current readouts do you need to calculate power consumption to create a power profile? Is there any way to help automate the process? Would something like this help? If it does, I could write a small Windows application that would basically log readings in various file formats (including excel) if it with the process.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Forget about smartwatch, did you see on gabotronics an oscilloscope watch?!? http://www.gabotronics.com/oscilloscopes/oscilloscope-watch.htm - now, that is cool!!!
[Ornate TrueSmart] iraqigeek:
Yep, the kickstarter ended a few days ago. Its more of an amateur/hobbyist toy than anything serious. I've had his Xprotolab for for almost 3 years now, and while its useful for breadboarding, thats about the extent of its usefulness.

I've had a small talk with Anzziani on both Hackaday and his KS campaign regarding upgrading the XMegas used in pretty much all his products to a STM32F3-series micro, as those little bad boys sport 5MSPS ADCs, and those ADCs can be interleaved on the same input channel for a combined sampling rate of around 17MSPS, but cited development time and packaging size as reasons for not switching.

$99 for a 2MSPS oscilloscope "watch" toy is steep given its limited sampling speed (2MSPS) and buffer depth. But the Xprotolab Plain at $20 a pop is a whole other proposition, especially with its USB connectivity.

Gabriel was nice enough to publish his circuits, including the analog front-end he's using for those, so whipping similar functionality using an arduino or your choice of dev-board isn't that hard, especially if its for the purpose of voltage/power monitoring across various inputs where you don't need high sampling rates.
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
i have raceved my symvalley/omate today!

is a good device!!!
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
I just got the AW-414, here are some unboxing pics:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/101149847908870195450/posts/T2SP5sLf2ML
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
I can't connect to google+ or hangouts.

It says "unable to connect to server" (well something like this as it's in french)

Google play is connected and works well.

Somebody has an idea how to solve this ?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I need to replace my multimeter anyway so it's not a big deal. The one I ordered has a peak reading so it makes it easier.
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
i'm in the middle of the back up with Mtk tools. (with the help of Lokifish Marz)

it took a while to go through, there were no scatter files created: i found out that MT6572 is not supported in MTKDroidtools. I had to modify the ini file to make it work.

I didn't have to root the watch; it already was by default !
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I wonder if your 414's will randomly go faulty like mine did, also is the firmware/launcher nasty and glitchy on any of yours?
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
i have flashed it with omate firmware. it's running fine. The only big pbm so far is play store doens't work.
[Ornate TrueSmart] squeenix:
How did you do that? Where did you get the Omate FW?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Don't worry about it for now. It was done to help him get his 414 up and running again as there is no 414 firmware available. Once everything is nailed down I will post guides as merging all the similar devices onto the same firmware will help with development and allow for an improved end user experience.
[Ornate TrueSmart] skyworxx:
Has anyone managed to get BT Tethering working?

This is my topmost priority right now, since the watch is useless without internet (and having an extra sim card just for the watch is expensive).
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Video of my faulty 414.Go

So here is a crappy rush Job video of my 414 before I took it to the post office.

my future review videos will be much better quality and have sound, i just made this to give people the general idea. kinda sucks that I lost the clips I'd made of it glitching and adding multiple icons per app and a few other glitches tho, but i still showed a few good reasons why not to get it on the video well imo anyway.

[YOUTUBE]RqZcS-OSItw[/YOUTUBE]
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
Just from the video I get the impression you had a frustrating time with it!
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
yeah its was worst android device i've ever owned due to its crappy default apps/launcher and firmware and lack of quality,

also according to my Google account I've had 16 android devices so far over the years O.o
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
That's another of the issues I had, I think its because of the devices DPI.
[Ornate TrueSmart] t0kgrumps:
Hey, could someone who already have the aw-414 tell me is it worth it to get this simvalley aw-414 now, wait for the omate truesmart to ship to my country, or wait even longer for the Neptune pine? Thinking of selling off my one x+ and moving to the next generation of smartphones.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
DO NOT buy a 414 they are horrible I know I had one also look at my video of it I would reccomend the pine if you dont mind its size. I am going to save up for one.
[Ornate TrueSmart] t0kgrumps:
OK. But do you know when is it going to be released or shipped? BTW on the aw-414 is it even possible for me to make calls on it? I already have the nexus 7 2013 so no need for high specs.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
If you mean the pine they said january I think. On the 414 it should make calls. But dont get one.
[Ornate TrueSmart] t0kgrumps:
OK.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Hmm the replacment is not the newer model its another 414.Go but it did come in a retail box and had everything with it and a usb dock instead of that horrible connector thingy... I also noticed the firmware and model number in the device info do NOT say omate anymore. They say what it is instead so hopefully some of the nasty bugs are fixed in it. The box says my one is a Deutsche Version tho so the manual is in german like he told me it would be. Shame I dont know german :/
[Ornate TrueSmart] milanvot:
I got the 414 today and to mu surprise I have to say it's pretty nice device! Google Play works, Google maps works. And it's fast. The only problem I've experienced is I can't use G+ and G hangout. It says 'can't connect to server'...
[Ornate TrueSmart] iraqigeek:
How is the WiFi and BT reception on the new one? How strong is the signal and how far can it get from your home router/AP or a BT device like speakers or a headset compared to your phone?
[Ornate TrueSmart] cyrilp:
Hi, my opinion is quite the opposite! I love my aw-414!!!

I have flashed it with omate firmware (it is very easy to do) and now the watch is just GREAT!

Have a look at my google+ page, I have posted a lot of feedback!

Cyril

Envoyé de mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk

---------- Post added at 09:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:27 PM ----------

To choice to make Google+ and hangouts work :

1. Best choice is installing omate firmware.

2. Uninstall play store and Google play service to install up to date version. (you will have to root first as they are installed as system apps)

Envoyé de mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Ornate TrueSmart] milanvot:
Where can I get the omate firmware? I've checked omate forums but I can't find anything...
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Not sure yet only just got home when I uploaded the. Photo so not had time to test the new one yet. I can do my propper review I was going to do before now tho well as long as this one is all working ok.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I always root my devices as long as someone provides a way to do it and instructions.
[Ornate TrueSmart] t0kgrumps:
I don't know why but its becoming more confusing for me to understand. There's the simvalley mobile aw-414 smartwatch and there's the omate truesmart, so you can actually flash the firmware from the true smart into the sing alley aw-414?
[Ornate TrueSmart] iraqigeek:
The two, and probably half a dozen others that will surface over the next few months are essentially the same watch designed and manufactured by Umeox. The others are just rebadging and reselling it with a few modifications and/or customizations.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Bluetooth tethering on the 414 is totaly useless it wont let me connect my watch to my s4 zoom's 3g or my 2013 nexus 7 to the 414's 3g. Which makes the watch pretty useless and the batery life is a joke if you use the built in 3g on the 414 :/

Actualy it does pair them but if I try connect to the data it errors.

That and the firmware and launcher still have some crappy limitations.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I think the internal memory is faulty on my replacment 414 because it wont let me download files from the internet it errors and says no sd card and if I try factory reset and select sd card too it says sd card removed. I didnt have that issue with my other one and I never put an external sd card in that one...

Does anyone know if flashing the omate firmware to it is safe and if its stable? And if it will fix any of the issues I am having?

im getting pretty sick of this terrible poduct and all its faults x.x
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Yes, talk to Loki. Before you do, can you do some tests with Bluetooth and WiFi range?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Which bits were you saying yes to also I can do bluetooth but not accurate WiFi due to where the routers are in our house. What's the best way to contact Loki?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Here or G+. You can flash Omate's firmware.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Were? And is it stable?
[Ornate TrueSmart] singsong:
I have a 414 too....where is an Omate firmware?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Is yours faulty and or bad firmware?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
See Loki's thread.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Enberg:
Got my Simvalley 414 a couple of days ago and I am really pleased with it. Battery life is ok for me, after about 12 hour on 3g with moderate use (about one Whatsapp message per hour, autosync on, one or two short phone calls) I've been getting between 25-45% battery left. Feels quite snappy. The screen is too small for some apps to be useful but that was to be expected.

I'm on stock firmware 20131028.161813
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
12 hours on 3g I don't know what watch your using mine doesn't last half that with 3g on o.o

Also you will be happy with it until you find out how bad its firmware and built in launcher are. I've had 2 now and their both crap due to those things and the 2g/3g went faulty on the first one I got so it wasn't useable as a stand alone or a phone and that only took it 3-4 weeks to break, the battery seems to be better on this one tho it lasts over night if I leave WiFi on all the time and mostly only check notifications etc
[Ornate TrueSmart] Enberg:
Maybe my watch was the only one they actually sent to quality control?

Are you charging it with the crappy included USB charger?I Connected the docking thing to a 2A USB charger, only thing that I modified
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I think you will probberly damage the battery charging it so fast with a 2a charger also mine gets nealy too hot to touch when charging and I'm only using a 850ma charger, the dock for charging is horrible and renders the watch unuseable wial charging and is a stupid shape you have to put it upside down on desk witch also renders the fact the screen is visible wial in the dock a pointless thing.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Enberg:
Maybe I'm pushing my luck with the 2A but I have had several bad experiences with Chinese chargers, the last one started burning and ruined the battery of my wife's phone. The watch does not feel hot when I disconnect it but I'll switch to a high quality 1A to be safe. Thanks for the heads up.

Yes the shape of the charger is bad and not being able to use the watch while changing ridiculous.

The launcher is not good either. Took some tries to get swiping right to left for menu and left to right for back to work. Would be nice to have hardware buttons for that.

Will try Lokifish rom when I have more time on my hands,have you tried it?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I've not tried his ROM yet no and it gets extremely hot if you use it wial charging (in the dock) so hot the back case changed color, I hope nothing got damaged :/ it wouldn't have supprised me if it had burst into flames luckly it didn't tho, and no I'm not being OTT it DID get that hot. It even started lagging and being odd. Which was worring.

All that with the CPU optimised to run better then stock too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
I ordered mine! (Luckily I like alpha and beta testing stuff). Did anyone get a tracking number from Pearl when it was dispatched? I got a dispatch mail but no tracking number.. and no reply when I asked for one.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
I must say I'm quite disappointed with the service so far. When I was ordering I had an email replied to within about 10 minutes. But now I'm having no response for a simple tracking number after nearly a couple of days and several emails later.

I don't understand how I can use sites like dealextreme and fasttech who keep you updated and provide tracking numbers as soon as it's dispatched, but an EU company can't reach this standard. Very sad, and I think I'll be looking elsewhere in the future.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
S

I have to say this device is crap and both the ones ive had have gone faulty and the second one even over heated so bad that paint came off the back and the internal sd card (non apps partition) is missing.

And as ive said before the 2g/3g went unuseable on the first one I had. And they have the worst firmware and launcher ive ever used on an android device.

That being said if it all worked propperly it would have been a nice device.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
It is sad, I was aware of this after reading your comments but didn't mind taking the risk as I was expecting to do some 'tweaking' and my first task was going to be installing Loki's mods. But right now I'm anxious of even receiving it. I know it may seem fussy, but I can't for the life of me see how a company cannot even provide a tracking number. We do it here at work, every other company I use does this. Even the Chinese companies some people worry about.

The worst thing is the lack of response, when previously they managed to reply near instantly. I wouldn't mind so much if they said 'it hasn't been sent yet' (contrary to the email I received) or 'For administrative reasons we cannot get the tracking number' (though this would be ridiculous) - but to ignore me now they have my money is appalling.

Can I ask how long it took for you to receive yours?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Next day both times but I bought mine off ebay and originally got it at least a month before it was officialy out.

At this point im worried that the truesmart extreme editon 1gb 8gb I preordered could be as crap as it is a mod of the same device right?
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Hopefully not, I'm eagerly awaiting the TS. Hopefully the hardware revisions and refined ROM will prevent these issues.

Luckily I don't mind being a paid beta tester, but I just get irritated when what I consider to be basic customer service is not followed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Yeah I hope so too. I also pre ordered the A.I Watch they say that has a 1.3ghz quadcore CPU and a Mali400 GPU and a 800mahh battery

Tho most people seem to think their a scam but imo at this point it doesnt look any less trust worthy then omate since omate used aready made device as their prototype too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Awesome quality (sarcasm) thats the external damage on my 414.go after it got neally too hot to touch wail charging. The charging plug I was using was less then 1A

On another note it seems the battery in the first one I got was a dud as the one in this lasted all day on 2g/3g if I didnt use it much.

I think thats impressive for its size.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
That's awful. Does it not regulate the charging current? I think I'll stick with a 500ma output which should charge it in a little over an hour. Assuming it arrives of course.
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Well it's arrived. But it says available internal memory is only 1.27gb??? Is that correct even after system files?

And the touchscreen doesn't seem very sensitive...

EDIT:

Yes just watched a review video on YouTube and it's normal..
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I think Its meant to have 2, one for system, apps etc and one for internal SD for downloads, camera etc, my first one had both my second one only showed one and errored if I tried save anything from online and wouldnt use the camera were as I didnt have to put a external sd card in my first one it just worked.

Also notice how the firmware is missing features and the launcher is horrible glitchy crap.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I dont know but I use a charger thats less then 1A I was shocked when someone said they were using a 2A charger id think theyed be lucky if that didnt damage it.

I wouldnt reccomend this device to anyone tho as ive had 2 in very short time and they both went faulty.

I am seriously thinking of making a video to warn people how crap it is.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gramosmart:
I received my 414.go three days ago (from Germay to Spain 8 days, but they shipped the first day, with tracking number), and I'm very happy with it. No bugs at all. It's better than I could imagine. When I charge it there are no warming at all. I do reccomend it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] astaroth82:
I've also ordered one to Spain and I'm waiting for it with anxiety. It's supoused to be delivered between today or tomorrow so it took only 7-8 days since I ordered it in dec-2.

I've been reading all the posts about the clock, and followed CyrilP and Loki, but still don't have anything clear at all. I will try to post a mini review once I get the watch and play with it.

My idea is to use it primarily as a sport/fitness running watch, but I also want good performance, so I would like to flash the Omate firmware to give it a try.

Tell you more once I get it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gramosmart:
Watch is delivered by "Correos" so you never knows what can happens. As I said I'm very happy with watch. It's like a medium, medium-high quality smartphone, only limited by its size. But works in the same good performance. 95% apps that I have installed works fine, no problem at all, and good visibility at day light. So there are no surprises. If watch works as you like I didn't flash any firmware.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Could someone please upload me the system settings apk as I somehow axidently erased it when I was removing some system apps I didnt want and it screwed up when trying to restore that app
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Yea, I can do it later if someone else doesn't first.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Thanks that will be a big help as without it I can not acess system settings at all x.x

Oh also which folder will I need to put it in?
[Ornate TrueSmart] arovaris:
Hello whats name of default aw-414 launcher? How i can buy one? They dont ships worldwide?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Don't get one their crap I've had 2 and no end of issues.
[Ornate TrueSmart] skyworxx:
yepp, do not buy. I know that there are some people who really like their 414.go, but overall it seems to be a flawed, cheap product. Rather save your 200€ and wait for a better watch.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I couldn't agree more I've had 17 android devices over the years according to my Google account and this watch is the worst of all those. As I've said before I've had 2 of this watch and no end of issues.
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
my 414 work fine!!!
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Your one of the lucky few then, me and at least one other person have had 2 that both went or were faulty from the start and some others have bad ones too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] arovaris:
Aliexpress!

Look: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/wris...-2-android-system-smart-watch/1533037405.html.

Really it is a bad watch?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
yes read all this thread also seems I got scammed mine cost me £260 :/ I did somehow get mine a month before it was released tho...
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
My 414 arrived yesterday (purchased it last Friday)... I'm waiting for my Omate TrueSmart (which I should've gotten in October, but it gets delayed, and gets delayed and get...), so I thought let's buy a Pearl to cover for the remaining weeks :P

It's pretty nice, everything works great, except for the mobile data connection...

For some reason I can't use mobile data... I can make phone calls, but I can't get on the internet, I've searched through every single setting in the watch, compared it to my Padfone, tried 2 different SIM cards (2 different networks), but nothing, it won't connect to my mobile data network (not even 2G)...

Anyone seen this issue?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Welcome to my world. God to see you posting here.

Have you double checked the APN and checked to see if Data connection is turned on?

(You could always convert it to a TS Early prototype :angel:)
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I was about to suggest just that.

Do me a favor, dial *#*#4636#*#* and the radio debug menu should pop up.

You should be able to see if it's enabled or not.