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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
I swear i would be completely and utterly content using my n3 until the note 5 release next Octoberish. I love my phone. But i have a unique situation presenting itself to me right now that i may not be able to pass up, and it is greatly contributing to my decision of upgrading to a new phone. That is: i have a totally mint Verizon N3 being used by my son, and a great Verizon N2 with many extras, both of which im planning to sell. I will pass my TMo N3 to my son, and i should have at least $350 to 400 to apply to my new phone. That is truly my biggest motivation for purchasing a new phone. As for it being a N4 i just love the Note series quite a bit more than any other and i just can't see myself passing up the oprotunity to own a brand new deliciously black metaled (is that a word?) N4 running Tweaked N4Beta, unlocking it with my thumb's fingerprint, revealing Android L burning rubber at 3300000mhz in a bucket of water. LoL

Greatly appreciate your complement and it goes both ways my friend.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Ok, I'm gonna support [MENTION=5108383]sshafranko[/MENTION] here with a VERY similar scenario.

I would NEEEVER buy the Note 4. I have TWO Note 2's already fully owned and a Note 3 (still oweing $383 left) in my arsenal.

However, with Samsung's $200 trade-in promotion from any OLD qualifying cell phone (which I confirmed I already have with the Samsung Blaze phone).....PLUS....my Chase Freedom credit card rewards cash-back already sitting at $317, that's already $517 in free money right there that would go towards the Note 4 while I can keep my Note 3 (if I wanted).

So...THEERREE....is MY dilemma.

Or!!....JUMP the Note 3 to the Note 4 and still shave off $517 right off the bat, and THEN get the Nexus 6.

So, yeah......my dilemma is huge because $517 in free cash is HUGE in-&-of-itself. Note 4 is pretty close to N3, but....now that EDGE phone is one where you can say that you are one of a very few select people in the world to actually have one (since Sammy will produce a limited quantity of those). At least with that phone you can say that you have a device that possesses a feature that stands out. Have you seen that video of Street Fighter being played and the life power bars were on the Edge screen? Nice. Anyway, Edge would be my "unique" wow-factor desire, but the Sammy $200 trade-in promo does not apply to it and the promo ends in less than 7 days (for a whopping $200). =( You see?? Dilemmas.

So [MENTION=5108383]sshafranko[/MENTION], don't feel bad. I totally get you, bro!

[MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION], what are your thoughts? Please speak. And don't be too short.

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Or, another way I can spend my $317 is to wait for the newer, future Note tablet series. I've never owned a tablet ever and I want one, especially with a S-Pen. The newer Note tabs would be on par with then Galaxy S screens or even with UHD screens. So, yeah....dilemmas-dilemmas-dilemmas.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Or, another way I can spend my $317 is to wait for the newer, future Note tablet series. I've never owned a tablet ever and I want one, especially with a S-Pen. The newer Note tabs would be on par with then Galaxy S screens or even with UHD screens. So, yeah....dilemmas-dilemmas-dilemmas.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jazzmachine:
Feel free to share your thoughts! I just opened and glanced at the linked article near the top re: future-proof-ness, but from that, it does NOT look like they came to the same conclusion as the author of the article that i linked....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
If i could work it to where i could keep my N3 i would get the Nexus X 100%....i already have a tab.....but if i were in your shoes i think i would go for the tab. ..you got me thinking now. .. maybe there is a way i could keep my n3 hmm. Glad you posted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
[MENTION=5108383]sshafranko[/MENTION],

No prob.

But.....you'd actually do that?

So, Verizon N2 & N3, sell for $350-$400, use that money to get N4, pass down your T-Mobile N3 to your son. That was one option you were compelled to take.

But if you could KEEP your Note 3 after all in favor of having a Nexus X (6) alongside your Note 3, you would prefer that route?? What changed all of a sudden for ya, if I may kindly ask?

My dilemma is still an extra $517 in free cash toward the Note 4. But then I'd be more leaning towards wanting the Edge since it's a limited edition device (admitted my Samsung themselves). And then, but again, I would want to hold on to my $317 cash-rewards cash for a 1st-time-EVER purchase of a tablet (of any kind), which seems more logical since a tablet is the last type of device I do not own.

And THEN, I've never owned a Nexus development phone and want one, badly...

You already said the tablet should be the way I should go. Hmmmmm.....

I'm interested in what changed your mind about your phone dilemma and what that brain of yours is cooking in the kitchen. lol

Keep in mind that Samsung is giving away $200.

Let me mess with your head some more.......

....here's another option I read online. Sell your Verizon N2 & N3 and get the $350-$400 you could get for them. THEN aquire another phone, old phone, from a friend for free or purchased on eBay or Craigslist for at MOST $50 and use THAT phone to trade-in to T-Mobile where Samsung would STILL give you up to $200. So say you bought an older Samsung phone like the Samsung Exhibit (one that my Mom had) or a Samsung Blaze (one that my step-son had and was quoted to me to be worth $10 at T-Mobile).....then you take the Blaze, T-Mo prints a trade-in receipt stating that the Blaze is worth $10, Samsung cuts you a check for $190 to match $200, then you take that $190 check, trade in the Blaze for $10, take your Verizon $400 sale from having sold the Verizon N2 and N3 and now you are capable of:

$190+$10+$400=$600 to spend on a phone, or equally divide $600 towards two phones: one phone being the cheaper Nexus (since they're known for pricing their phones dirt cheap) and a Note 4. Put $300 down on a Note 4 (then your Note 4 monthly installments would be much cheaper) and then put down the other $300 down on a Vanilla Android developer's phone (Nexus and almost fully paid for) to be on the latest cutting edge all the time.

Take your time and let this marinate for a good moment, buddy-ole-pal. Lol

Or, take $600, feed the homeless and feel good all life long. =)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
Lol, your funny, i donno man...i started talking about this to clear up some confusion hovering in my brain and now i feel more confused than ever lol... that is a very good point but would leave my son without a phone if i sell n3, n2 and get myself the n4 and Nexus. Im like you never owned a Nex but want this one really bad.

I think you can only use the $200 trade in deal if you pre order, and can't use jump with it. I also have 3 working Samsung Charges and a working BlackBerry and a Motorola Droid.

I got a lot to think about and i have to decide quickly. I think the preorder deal is up in the next couple days if im not mistaken. Also i have no idea what i could get for the N2 and N3 i just threw 350 400 as a guess. Maybe more? Going to look that up now and maybe throw up an ad on Craigs and Ebay....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jazzmachine:
Soooo... how's your reception? :laugh:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
When I proposed the N4 and Nexus, I meant you and your son having a shot at both, paper/rock/scissors who gets which one. You both come out winning, you get to tinker with both at some point, etc.

If the $200 Sammy does NOT apply to Pre-Order/Jump, then deal is off. However, I think you CAN Jump cuz it's a fact that no one would have paid off their Note 3 entirely in a year's time - and this takes into account that most people are on the EIP still for the N3. I mean....I still have $383 left on the N3. If Sammy wants to entice me to get the N4 and not lose my business, why put a restriction on the process? That action would only serve to make me HAVE to look at other options. Why would I go to a store today, plunk down some cash to pay off my remaining $383 on the N3 (assuming that JUMP wouldn't be honored), and THEN trade-in a phone for a lesser $200 trade-in value to be applied towards the N4? I'm still $183 in the hole with that process. So hopefully they'll honor the JUMP, and also allow you to participate in the $200 trade-in promotion. I'll have to ask and investigate. This will let you sell your phones ($400 is VERY reasonable), add everything up to $600 in expendable cash, you get the N4 and Nexus and both u and ur son can walk away feeling mighty high and good (rightfully so) with the Nexus having a considerable lesser balance then the N4.

If you're like me and you got the N4 on T-Mobile's EIP and paid only the monthly minimum, then your balance should still be quite high, like mine.

If I assume that, you'd give your son the N3 (per the original plan) and still have that crazy balance of nearly $400. Better to have the N4 with a balance of 'slightly' over $400 and you're on the cutting edge.

Lol.....somehow I think you have this all figured out, anyhow, and it's just a matter of where is [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] gonna go. He keeps stalling on telling where I should put my pre-order in. I'm getting too antsy, man. Haha......

(or, a future tablet would negate all talks of cell phones for me at the moment. =))
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Another interesting read

http://bgr.com/2014/10/10/samsung-android-touch-wiz-ui/

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Namolas:
So I have been following this thread for several weeks. I've also been considering the Note 4 myself. I've got the LG G2, HTC One Max, Galaxy Note 3, OnePlus One. I could sell off a few devices and get a Note 4 without too much trouble but I'm just not sure its worth it yet. I'm sure the Note 4 is going to be an amazing device but the Note 3 is no slouch itself and won't be anytime soon.

My Note 3 really kicks ass with so many options having an unlocked bootloader. It's ooooo much nicer than the AT&T and Verizon Note 3's I've had in the past. In fact I wouldn't mind waiting it out a little while until development gets ramped up a bit for the GN4. Few weeks, months even. Its certainly no punishment to keep rocking the badass Note 3 in the meantime, but running stock Touchwiz for a while on the Note 4 would be brutal.

If somebody didn't have a Note at all I would say the $750 price tag for a Note 4 is absolutely worth it. But the advancements from the Note 3 to the Note 4 aren't as mind blowing as the upgrade used to be. So In my mind the real question is are the differences between the Note 3 and the Note 4 worth $750? (or $500 or $400 or whatever you guys are planning on spending)

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Wow....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Aside from the commentary, I didn't care for how it looked. Pretty fugly in that drawing.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Agreed. The drawing looked too busy. I'm interested in the Android L Material Design, actually. Why can't Samsung sort of copy that? It looks classy

Well, 3rd party launchers, here we come (and Tweaked, of course).

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I'd be spending just over $250 or so.

The OIS (Optical Image Stabilization) is pretty well designed and does wonders. It's one thing to draw conclusions from having watched YouTube videos and reading articles, it's another thing to actually have played with the phone for a while, which I did (half hour or so). Now, having OIS in the Nexus makes the Nexus more appealing.

I'm hoping [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] does not force me to get a N4 and even then I may hold out. But, the Edge, after watching Street Fighter on it utilizing the 'edge', was a winner for me, too.

Then, 6" Nexus with vanilla Android Material Design glory.

This season really sucks. Too many choices, and with Sony Xperia Z3x that I want to get early next year....sheesh.

Anyway.....I'm gonna bury my face in my pillow and weep just a tad little bit.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
How come I can no longer upload screenshots anymore in Tapatalk? File size limit is 256KB. This was never an issue before.

::UPDATE::

I restored an older version of Tapatalk (version 4.8.3) from Titanium Backup and I can upload screenshots again. Even the upload message prompt looks different. It appears Tapatalk v.4.9.4 crippled this feature to file sizes being limited to 256KB. Anyone else catch this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] BACARDILIMON:
My issue was like urs but it was XDA. I stopped using Tapatalk thinking it was them.

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Nope.....for me it was Tapatalk, NEWEST version that introduced the new Image-upload file size limitation. This was confirmed to me by another user.

I reverted to a previous version from earlier in September and I can now experience Image-uploads as I did before, without restrictions.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zonly1:
I clicked on the plus, then the camera icon and then gallery, grabbed the screenshot...Are you doing something different?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Holy cow. How did you do that? And, what "camera icon"? Version 4.9.4 - I hear (from others as well) has put a file size restriction. So when I take screenshots, just as normally as you would take a screenshot, the image file size is apparently larger that 256KB. Could you please verify the file size of your screenshot there that you just uploaded, the one showing the Tapatalk version, please?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
With all the new devices you own, i have a strange feeling that a note 4 is inevitably coming to you in the near future?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Namolas:
Oh there's no doubt about it. If I could walk into a store and buy one right now, we wouldn't be having this conversation because I'd be driving.... Haha!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zonly1:
Here is the camera icon. As do as I pressed the plus...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
Cant wait for the Nexus announcement and reveling today?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Ditto! Btw, others complaining abut ART on Note 4 threads. Some articles about Nexus X claim, to their surprise, that memory will be expandable. We shall see! (Maybe around 1pm to 2 pm ET)

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...s-9-quietly-today-no-big-event-in-tow_id61743
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
That would be beautiful
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
YES! http://www.tmonews.com/2014/10/t-mobile-and-google-partner-to-launch-nexus-6-guess/

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64 on board storage and 12 bands.

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I want a Tweaked AOSP on a Nexus 6!

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http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/15/6982145/nexus-6-announced-google-specs-availability

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This one has some prices. Smh @ $800.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/15/g...tm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
I want Tweaked AOSP so bad, too!!!!!! Nexus phone, Nexus Tablet.....I don't care! [MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] MajorTom_:
Forbes reports that the price will be starting at around $649.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/10/15/motorola-nexus-6-everything-you-need-to-know/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sshafranko:
Kal i agree with pretty much everything you say. I think it's going to be a bit tough for Nexus to compete with the high end priced market which they just entered. Honestly today, i told Dwith earlier, i decided on the N4. Two things made me come to this conclusion and keep in mind im dying to own aNexus and feel that true Aosp.

1. Spen, multitasking, removable battery, ext sd, etc...

2. The Note 4 is approximately 1mm narrower than the Note 3. This is a plus in my book. The 6 seems to be on par with the Note 2 width. No wifi calling on nex until 2015 ota.That is a big minus in my book.

After going through the links TD posted i started to doubt myself a bit. ...whew

But here's how I'm looking at it...

Tweaked note 4 with Locos theme is as close as you'll probably get to Aosp on Touch Wiz and off you want to get closer than that you can flash Cyanogen when it comes out and at least you have the option of going back to the feature rich TW base of desired.

So let's cut the crrap and pick up those N4's so we can gettem Tweaked Asap.

For those of you who are interested in the next couple days i will be sending my 100 as promised to the Tweaked Note4 fund. I'll shoot you all a pm to remind you in a day or two. It would be awesome if we could all get together and do this for Dwith. From personal experience i can say i am very happy i donated to the Note 3 fund. Keep this in mind when your posting logs of an awesome rom that completely transforms your phone for Dwith to look at, and all the insane hours that dude spends rebasing for the updates.

Ohh and lets not forget Tweaked L!! WHAAAT

Come on boys and girlslet's get this dude a phone ASaP
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
I also read that the starting price for 32GB is $650. This is a problem for me. Every phone upgrade for me has to have an "increase" in some key areas: Camera, storage and RAM. Why would I go from a 32GB to another 32GB? Since Nexus 6 I presume would not have a external card slot, I committed to only getting the N6 if it would come in a 64GB option. And now that it does, they wanna charge HOW much for 64GB?! For that price I might as well eat the forbidden fruit (you know what I mean).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] MajorTom_:
I've read elsewhere that the 64gb version will cost up $699. Close to $800 after taxes i believe.

I too would only be willing to go for 64gb version since memory is not expandable but it's a lot to pay.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Yes, too much for me. At THAT price, too much. You might as well go for the S-Pen to justify that number. Because at least you'd get a 128GB card in the slot. Yeah, so Xperia Z3 it is.

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So my boy, a manager at T-Mobile, texted me and said T-Mobile won't be carrying the 64GB variant. Definitely I'm out of this race.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
Stoopid at least the one thru the. Play store version will work...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ttabbal:
Tmonews updated to agree with Kal-El7's friend. 32GB only, $650. I think it's lame that they even make 32GB flagship phones right now. Seriously? Even the N4 fails there. At these price levels, I at least want the option to add more storage if I need it.

With an SD slot, it would be a contender, but without? No thanks. Too expensive to be crippled like that. No multiwindow, non-removable battery... So I guess I'm out on the Nexus. N4 maybe, depends on what devs come up with. So far, I'm not that excited about it. It's a firm maybe...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mscion:
Gee. This is still a tough one for me. I really like the size of the screen on the Nexus 6 and the fact that it comes with material L out of the box. Lack of microSD is a bummer. Could probably live with 64GB but it would be tight. I have 78GB currently used up on Note 3. Too bad there isn't an option in TSM to change screen size from 5.7 to 5.96. It does about everything else! Noticed the ad for Nexus 6 in play store says that ART can quadruple performance of some apps. Btw. I read that the developer wanum will not work on compatibility of wanum module with Note 4 even if he was given one. Too much of a commitment... Think I'm gonna wait till I see the Nexus 6 up close and see how things are shaking out before I make a decision.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Well, that burst my Nexus bubble! :crying: TMO jump is my gateway, and 32gig ain't gonna cut it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
This is true. Nexus 6 from Play Store is said to be the version that's compatible with "Wi-Fi Unleashed", meaning Wi-Fi Calling, 30,000 in the air usage with in-flight GoGo service, etc.

But a NoGo for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
John say there WILL be a 64 gig Nex6

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ttabbal:
Well that's interesting... I guess I'll hold judgement till the order pages are live. I'm not in any hurry. I like the fast charge thing, but the N4 has similar tech. Pity that there can't be a zerolemon for the Nexus though. I've gotten used to having more power than I can possibly use in a day at my fingertips. And I know I'm weird, but I like the phone thicker and heavier if I'm getting something out of it.

I also dig the idea of wireless charging, but it doesn't work with a FlyGrip, that's a deal breaker for me.

If they had done a RAM boost, that would make it a must buy. But that probably needs 64bit and it seems like Qualcom wasn't ready to ship them in quantity.

Ahhhh... First world problems. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
Interesting, but what I think my buddy (manager at T-Mo) was telling me was that they won't carry them IN-store. May not be eligible for JUMP, but who knows. That's an interesting screenshot. Still, no SDcard (which I thought we would get), no removable battery, etc....$700 is steep for it being of the Nexus legacy of being "affordable".
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ttabbal:
To be fair, the affordable bit was just the past couple models. Galaxy Nexus ran about $600 at launch. So I don't really think that the price is totally out of line. I do think it's a tough sell against the N4 though. I think I'll just keep flip-flopping for a while. If I get good at it, I can run for president! :)

If Tmobile sells it direct, even online only, I expect they will allow jump users to get it. They do allow online jump upgrades now, so it would make sense.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
Yes, and apparently even can do a pre-order jump online as well from what I've heard from people who are already receiving their Note 4s.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Kal-El7:
I keep telling people what Kal-El is waiting for, no one wants to listen....

Here's what I'm waiting for.... Sony actually and literally vowed for a "every-6-month flagship release" (or so). This shows they were serious. From Z2, then Z3 four months later, now Z3(x) when the Z3 hasn't even been out yet. So either January, February or March I WILL have THIS phone. I'm done talking about it. lolol

[MENTION=4041997]dwitherell[/MENTION] Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tdgillihan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffbVw1BrUDk&feature=youtu.be

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] BACARDILIMON:
I definitely don't need it. No SD card no phone

NOTE 4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Bruce lee roy:
Kal - i hope 6 months is enough time for quality testing and development?