yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
hmm... it is no problem to code it at all.

problem is, that i'm quite afraid to do it.

why?

on himalaya, there is separate chip where bootloader and OS are. then there is a DOC chip, where you just reformat two fat partitions and you leave binary partition untouched.

however on Universal we have DOC chip only.

so it is not so safe operation. what if the tool will reformat your bootloader as well?

would you like to test it? ;o)

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hdubli:
Hi All,

Considering the statements of Buzz and the size of Extended ROm...I personaly think that there is no need for merging..instead we can use that 10 MB as an Internal storage to store our data or instal those applications which are reqd to be installed in phone memory...

For Ex..

I hv installed Voice command, SPB PLus,Photo Contacts etc there and put some ringtones in that..
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stanip:
Good idea to install apps that require to be installed in phone memory to the extended rom. What will happen after a hard reset? Those should stay and not required to be reinstalled... Is my understanding correct? Thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tron_Of_Borg:
This is what I'd like to see in the ExtRom.

<Dream_Mode>

A simple command to load whatever I have in a specific Dir on my SD card.

This would use minimal space in the ExtRom where I'd like to put more important things (data) that I would want to save through a hard reset. Like my PIM & Registry. (Remember, I'm a non-programmer so I'm 'dreaming' here. I don't even know if the ExtROM is R/W like the SD.)

This way, after a reset, I don't have to sync to get my PIM and my apps are all installed from the SD. But wait! I don't have to reinstall my apps because I installed them to the SD and the Reg was in the ExtROM!

</Dream_Mode>
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Dubi:
Extended rom unlocker make it simple....

Based on the exchange of information ... It seems that in order to have the Extended rom avaiable - the registry has to be changed. I am not aware of any other requirements .. and I tried the method on several machines (Jasjar, Dopod 900, Qtek version etc.) I tried the method with several versions of OS (Qtek, T-Mobile, I-mate ..) and it worked for me.

While installing the rom it seems that if you want to release the Extended rom and you use the Unlocker exe file, it make it difficult to add it as part of the Initial setup built into the Extened rom. so I bulit a simple cab file which only changes the registery (attahced). After the intial release of the Extened Rom I jsut added it to the Extended rom. from now every time I have to Hard Reset the Extended ROM is Unlocked with the small CAB. It is not sofisticated but I find it very usefull and wanted to share it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
they will stay there after hard reset, but maybe you will be missing some reg entries for those apps...

@ Tron_Of_Borg

i think, that it is doable

@ Dubi

Dubi, similar cab is somewhere at the beginning of this thread.

Basically to load Extended_ROM as visible, you need to start it in Bootphase 2 with MountHidden 0.

Another way would be to write a simple app, which will unmount it and remount with different settings.

Yet another way would be to edit the ROM to mount it visible by default

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmartin:
sorry, to bring up my problem again after the discussion has taken another course.

But renaming the Mountpoint to something after ExtendedRom (like XtendedRom) doesn't change the way outlook works. Outlook still only offers the ExtRom Partition as external memory for saving attachments.

Any ideas why this is happening?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
step by step guide please

Hi Guys seems like every one is having fun and i want in! lol

Iv transferd the unlocker to my xda exec and ran it got the success message so that worked fine,

then as suggested i installed TotalCommander for CE.

Now will someone be kind enough to talk me through delteing the O2 Activ stuff, which folder do I go into, Just need someone to get the ball rolling for me,

thanks guys

N2h
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
@n2h

hi,

I hope, that you've already restarted your device... ok..

so run TC and navigate to:

\extended_rom

you have to type it into address bar.

once you'll write last letter, it will refresh the file window with content of \extended_rom.

look for 'config.txt' file.

reset it's readonly flag.

rename it to 'config.txt.del'.

from now on, when you hard reset, extended rom content will not be installed automatically, coz autorun.exe will not find any config.

you can put your own cabs or exe files to extended rom and create your own config.txt.

you can keep all the original cabs and execute them manually or you can mark them all readwrite and then delete them to get additional 10MB storage space...

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
BUZZ thanks once again mate

il give that a try tommarow

N2h
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] l6cum:
hi N2h

Or you can custom design your own Extended Rom by following my guide on :

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=36350&highlight=

cheers thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tron_Of_Borg:
Buzz, is it possible to reference cabs and exe's on the SD card for auto installation? Is the SD card accessable at this stage of boot after a hard reset?

I'd love to gain the 10Mb by deleting the ExtROM files and just have a config file pointing to my SD card.

Oh, also is there a way of specifying where to install the program also? Such as a registry entry that tells the installer to default to main memory? I ask because I have just a handful of apps that I keep in the main while most are installed to the SD card.

I don't mean to create more work for you...you are just so far ahead that I'm hoping these are simple yes/no for the most part.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
hmm... not quite sure, but it should be possible... i'm not aware of such reg key..

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tron_Of_Borg:
I'm guessing that because they say to install everything that goes on the Today Screen in main memory that the SD card is not accessable this early in the boot process.

But, maybe something in the ExtROM to delay 15 sec or so and then start installing from the SD card is possible.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
@@ l6cum

dude thanks for that,

Iv just been made redundant as Vodafone's closed its call centre here in birmingham and i dont start my other job untill april!! so iv got plenty of time on my hands!! lol 8) :lol:

cheers bud
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jamfitz86:
Does anyone know which Files are NEEDED from the o2 extended rom for all to work well? I'm about to cook up my own ROM and dont want anything not working, as i'll get confused and cry and flash back to the original :(

I found a list http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t69996.html Although it doesnt say which you NEED.

Thanks

JAmes
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] raptor74G:
Buzz,

I'm using dopod 900 and accidentally removed my "Voice Commander" which comes with my device. How can I install back the program?

I've tried ur "[Universal] Extended ROM unlocker", unfortunately I can't find any Ext_ROM folder. I also tried to find it by using Total Commander and GSFinder+ by enabling view>ROM but I haven't got any luck yet. Please help me.

Thank You

:?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
In total commander type "\EXTENDED_ROM" (without the quotes) and this should show you what's in the extended ROM. This has to be typed at the TOP PART where there is a windows (similar to internet explorer's address bar)

Goodluck
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
I cannot even register @ Buzz' site.It sent me a confirmation email stating that i have an active account on your site buzz ,b/ will not let me dl the extended rom.Is that Because i have not been on this site long enough??
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
If you cannot resolve this, tell me which file you need and I will attach it to a message here.

Cheers
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ssn04:
Registration Codes

I have been playing with Buzz's tools (thanks for all your contributions Buzz), and think I understand how to customize the extended ROM of my Jazjar. I am replacing the .cab files contained in the original image with .cab files of programs I want to reload on hard reset. Some of these programs, however, require the entry of registration codes in order to run correctly after install. Has anyone figured out how to automate that process?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
I have been trying to get this extended_rom for a Universal.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
hi southernint3l,

there is a confirmation link in that email.

I hope, you did click that.

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cool_case:
I havenn't upgraded my ROM since unlocking the extended ROM back a few months ago. Looks like there's a pretty decent new ROM coming out fairly soon - worthy of an upgrade.

If you upgrade the ROM, do you lose what you've put in the extended ROM and have to run the hack over again to get the extended ROM space back?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
You can remove ms_.nbf from the ROM upgrade package and it will not reflash your ExtendedROM.

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cool_case:
Uh, just to be clear but perhaps a little thick, are you saying that if you run ROMUpgradeUt.exe in the directory with:

EnterBL.exe

GetDeviceData.exe

nk.nbf

radio_.nbf

RUU.conf

RUU.dll

UI.dll

but with

ms_.nbf removed from the directory,

it will update the ROM and the radio and leave the extended_ROM as it was?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
yes and nothing-ill try again
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
Yes. nk.nbf=OS, radio_.nbf=radio, ms_.nbf=ext_rom....

I think you have to use MAUpgradenoID instead of ROMUpgradeUT if you receive country ID error. It is in the FTP
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cool_case:
Ok, downloaded MaUpgradeUt_NoID.exe. Tried it out to see how it sets up the upgrade with various combinations, such as w/ ms_.nbf, without it, etc. and canceled before actually doing the upgrade. Looks easy enough.

Thanks very much, Jorge!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chtan:
I'm having a problem after executing the unlocker. It changes my storage card to storage card 2 and i have a lot of softwares installed into the storage card and now is not working.

Anyway to revert the changes back. Help and thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chtan:
Ignore my previous post, found the solution.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
Got it now-but i still am confused on the installation process-man i tell you-i get my phone in less than a couple of days and i have gathered alot of information.2 questions well 3 that no one has really ans. directly-

1.do i install the rom as soon as i get the phone?and when the phone is initially booting up what should i do?i have hunted for posts but get diff. methods of this

2.when i get the ext. rom loaded --i set the phone to the begining-just like when you do a factory restore?meaning clearing the computers contents and setting the device to the orig. settings

3.once i save the softwares to ths ext. rom are they there for good??i keep hearing about hard resets and soft resets,can someone clarify these 2 for me please??
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
Answers to your questions (if i understood them right :))

1. It is best to upgrade as soon as you get the phone as whenever you upgrade, it erases all the stuff that you installed including SMS, E-mail, contacts, etc. Now if you are gonna install a DIFFERENT brand of ROM to your phone (QTEK ROM to a JASJAR Phone), then this a different process. this has to be done manually.

2. I don't quite understand the question. Doing a hard reset (__ + __ + Reset Hole) will:

2.1. Erase all contents of phone except OS, Ext_ROM, Radio

2.2. Install OS stuff (like registry, themes, etc)

2.3. Install Extended ROM

3. Regarding Extended_ROM, these contain personal customizations for the phone. These contents are installed INTO the phone during hard resets (unless ou bypass the ext_rom install). The contents of the Extended_ROM can be modified/cooked into whatever you like as what it should contain is STUFF TO INSTALL AFTER A HARD RESET. as a hard reset restores to factory WM5 status
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
Well this does answer my questions...to a point-I will be installing the JASJAR rom to my phone,unless it is wiser to install the Qtek?and how many things are allowed to be stored in ER?Can you install files as well?or only Exe files??

And another question that i asked someone that was not clear---can you use the wifi on the universal,without a sim card?connect to the internet via-your router?and what is the cut off for time being spent on your universal?what is a good meduan to use on the phone before saying--i have been using this a little too long now
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
From my observations from the different ROM's, the ExtendedROM partition is around 10MB in size. Then, here you can store ANYTHING but you might have to Unlock/Unhide it so it will be in the choice of where to install stuff. You can install the QTEK or IMATE, whichever you want but the advice is bypass extendedROM customizations.

You can use the universal without a SIM card. wether it's wifi , you will be able to use the PDA part of the phone.

Regarding cut-off, i don't know what you mean. In my case I am more conscious of runnign up a bill that if my battery lasts as I charge it every night and doing this has never caused it to die on me.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
Running up a bill?meaning electricity correct??because what i understand is that you can connect to the internet via a wireless router and not get charged for using the online time directly to your device-only incur current internet charges stemming from your isp. :lol: .Last question and a VERY imortant one.How do you know if the video camera for using with the phone works?is there a way to test it?although video conf. is not supported in the united states.pda mode:meaning i can use the functionality of getting online and surfing the net and that sort of thing correct?if so im good!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
Sorry, i thought how long can u use the PDA in general (Surfing/Phone/SMS/etc)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
well last question since you have been the only one to answer any of my questions.

1. For those in the US, how do you know if your video conference cam works if there is no way make video conf. calls here in the us?

Is there a program that will let you know that your video conf. camera works?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
If all you want to know is if the internal VGA camera works, just open the camera and there is an icon in the upper left corner, looks like a webcam and a head. Just click on this and it will switch to the internal camera.

If you meant how to test video conferencing itself (not the camera), i cannot help you
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
yes -you answered my question to a tee!!first one.The video conf. can wait.i just want to make sure that the cam works!Can you take pictures with this cam as well?I asked in another part of this forum about a program being made so that the cam works for yahoo messenger,msn or aim
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
Yes, all you have to do is run the CAM app then press the icon i told you about...

Caution: this mode is for VAIN PEOPLE (self-portrait) hehehe

You can search Microsoft Portrait. I believe they are developing a version for the universal
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cktlcmd:
How come I still can't see the Extended ROM using Total Commander after running Buzz Application from the 1st post?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
You don't need the app, just type "\EXTENDED_ROM" without quotes in the address bar :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cktlcmd:
Hey THANKS A LOT!!!!!! Wheeeewwww! I was reading the entire thread twice now. I missed that short reply from the fist post.

Thanks to BUZZ too!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cktlcmd:
Now I understand why Buzz does not care about the Ext ROM. After copying the Ext ROM to my computer. I decided to perform a hard reset and see what happens. What I got was a clean Universal without anything on it. It was twice as fast as it was before (I was using the Corporate mode-0506). I did notice some important stuff missing such as:

SIM Manager and the phone can't read the numbers stored in the SIM anymore.

Do you guys know which among the files in the Ext ROM puts back the SIM Manager and some phone recognition of the numbers?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stevep:
Extended ROM unlocker...(do I get more space)

Sorry guys and gals, thi si a really obvious question about using the ROM Unlocker. Unfortunately, I can't find any obvious answers :lol:

I installed the above and because I'm running short of space, moved the largest cab file (the 6 meg one) onto my storage card

When I rebooted, I couldn't convince myself that I've gained any extra space!!! If I look under 'Memory'...the figures look roughly the same as they were before I move the cab file.

Latest: When I rebooted and looked in the extended ROM..the 6 meg file was back in there, even though I know I moved it to the storage card...Is that normal ie does it auto recover it if you delete it? Spooky huh!

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
that is what i would like to know.Because i will receive mine soon.Their is a delay,b/ i still would like to know why soooo many people says its not working or it does not make much of a difference...

Regards
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] zohaer21:
sorry guys but this extended unlocker doesnt work with the new imate rom
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] eagle 1:
it worked for me...ran the cab file for unlocker, reset, Ran unlock, reset, then Deleted the operator cabs, Skype, anti virus, backgammon, etc and copied in my operator setting, registry setting changes, a few other cabs like disable certs and security, etc...hard reset all works great...

Don't forget to read the threads about creating your own extended rom!

Seems to work just like before....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] AB2010:
Tried it but it did not work

I previously installed the new ROM (Version 13068_130153_10900) and tried to unlock the Extended Rom. But it did not work. First of all, I installed the unlock-cab file. Then I ran the Unlock file. Afterwards I changed the registry as explained. Then I did a soft reset. No success. Although the Extended Rom is visible with Total Commander. I was able to delete all files in the Extended Rom but I am not able to install new programs in the Extended Rom. Any ideas? Cheers.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
how do you create your own ext.rom??
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] buzz_lightyear:
hi,

uni_extendedROM_unlock.exe does work with ANY ROM.

please note, that there are three things to be aware of.

1. extROM is locked/unlocked

2. extROM is hidden/visible

3. files in ER are readonly/readwrite

( slash = or)

do I have to explain it more?

buzz
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] lbendlin:
we've been through this so many times... You need to wait for the device to commit the changes. If you do a soft reset immediately all the changes are lost.

Run the unlocker, hit ok on it twice, switch the device off with the power button, wait ten seconds, and only then do a soft reset.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stevep:
Re: Extended ROM unlocker...(do I get more space)

UPDATE Sunday, March 5, 2006

I think I've sorted this one. I used Resco File Explorer to delete the file. But Resco has an undelete feature - I guess therefore it really just HIDES the file when you delete it. If use the default file explorer and delete it - it stays deleted! :D

However, I would like to know why I don't see any extra space. My 'Storage' figure says 1.51 meg free whilst Program memory says just 3.48

I thought that by removing the 6 meg file in extended ROM, *ONE* of these figures would increase. Anyone help me out here?

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
You are right my friend!There is software for people here in the United States or anyone with pocket PC,handheld PC,and Smartphone-this version of Microsoft Portrait is v2.3 will work with webcaming on yahoo,msn,and aim!

Link is here:

http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Jorgee:
Re: Extended ROM unlocker...(do I get more space)

The extended rom stays on its own 10MB partition so even if you delete everything, you will not get anything back as in the Memory Icon, the PROGRAMS is the free space of the 64MB RAM (separate memory) and the STORAGE is what is free from the ROM partition.

You can however install programs to the extended ROM if it has enough free space so what you do is uninstall some programs then install them again and when asked where to store (Device, Storage Card) there should be a third option which is the extendedROM. that is if you unhid the partition.

This is the only way I see how you can use the space you free when you delete stuff in the extended rom

Goodluck
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] stevep:
Extended ROM

Thanks Jorge...that's made it very clear for me
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
Re: Extended ROM unlocker...(do I get more space)

Total commander just did it for me!Lucky for me that i did not get the BS on my I-mate i ordered from

http://www.dweiniger.com/index.shtml

and my phone did not come with all the bs that most people get!hey thanks-now all i need to know is when i get ready to store stuff there what do i need to do??
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] southernint3l:
Well i found out by soft resetting during the installation process of the skype,anti-virus etc.cool im over that because i couldnt be bothered.3 questions if anyone has answers to them.

1.I unlocked the EXT.ROM(or so it says so)and when i click to see all the information it doesnt give me a ext. rom version.What did i do wrong??

2.Where would these files be located or called?file ext name that is.

2.Where can i get some nice themes for the phone @? :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] v4victory:
We need a SIM unlocker Not a ROM unlocker

We Need a SIM unlocker for MDA pro not a ROM shiyt you stupid Buzz lightyear cut and paste genius (Buzz lightyear cut and paste these technics from modaco and other xda development sites)

biggest challange for Buzz to unlock MDA pro which he can never do
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] mwang:
Re: We need a SIM unlocker Not a ROM unlocker

Why biggest challange for buzz ? why not you ? and you are smart than buzz ? why not you make sim unlocker for us ? I think you need to changed " We need a SIM unlocker Not a ROM unlocker " to " I need a SIM unlocker and a ROM unlocker , Please Buzz make it happen to me " :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vbJoe:
I got to a point where I checked for new posts everyday.. Then I left it for a week to come back and all of the sudden the site has been infected by a virus, I looked it up on the mcafee site and thought I’d post the details to make users aware:

Virus Name: v4victory

Symptoms: bull$hit in enormous quantities spreads through existing topics creating nonsense posts sometimes creating random topics also containing bull$hit.

Solution: Throw down a well after cutting off bollocks.

Volunteers ?

P.S

Buzz you rule, ignore the virus.