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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] DFStormbringer:
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Thats honestly EXACTLY what this is.. and if you do your research youll find out that ALOT of phones and especially larger tablets have this "feature" built in..

basically if you dont move your finger.. and keep it same spot for around 30 seconds.. the device assumes its a "stuck key" and responds accordingly by disconecting the signal and ignoring it for a set ammount of time.

while this does wonders for a lagging app or some other inadvertant bug causing the touch to hang up ont he screen.. when gaming and you NEED it to remain.. the shut off becomes an unbelievable annoyance.

i remember reading about this issue in other forums but i cant for the life of me remember where.. but if i recall.. [no promises].. under the systems developers settings there was mention of a setting to turn off long press resets.. or a section that dealth with how the device reacts to long press behaviors.

being im still trying to save up for my SM-p600.. as i cant find any reference in the USA that the 64gb models even exsist.. someone else will have to check on thier tablets to see if theres anything in the systems setings to fix such.

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please ignore the "quote" section of my "last" post.. it seems im having large issues with this xda app at the moment.. not only is it copyingthe wrong quotes.. but its not letting me edit my own replies to remedy the issue... sincere appologies.

the quote INTENDED is the one listed below it.. and has been properly copied above...

sadly as all can see thats not the quote that auto pasted and in my rush i failed to notice the error

further attempts at clicking the proer reply.. and quoting from it has in EVERY regards copied the post prior to it.. forcing me to now have to click the post BELOW the oen i want to highlight and properly select it... how annoying >.>
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ettepetje:
I mention both in the opening post as from what I could see they produce the exact same issue afterwards. It could still be that with the "stuck finger" situation there are 2 separate issues occurring at the same time, or around the same time.

On the 2014 Note 10.1 using Android 4.3 there is no option to switch the "stuck finger" phenomenon off in the "System Developers" settings, or at least there is no option recognizable as such.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] DFStormbringer:
Im not 100% on your assumption...

while indeed both have thier similarities.. i know for a fact that the 30 second issue is "intended software coding".. and thus CAN be remedied through an update.. or for those that root.. a personal hotfix.... perhaps the issue can be brought enmasse to samsung to give us the option to turn such off.. a "game mode" setting perhaps.

the issue with the ghosting over multi though.. is NOT so simple and not likly a software issue.

i say this because my Kocaso M870.. first had to be RMAed.. BOTH being cheap china knockoffs.. have a disasterous level of durability and construction.. so much that the case creaks and moves in your hands new out the box.. and from first powering up.. this "ghost touch" issue was prevailent on a minor issue.. to where it was easily repeatable on both tablets but usualy only happened when the tablet was on a flat surface lying down.

as the tablets aged the case continued to fall apart and become more free moving.. and the tablets ghosting went from flat surfaces only to holding it in portriate mode as well.

my current second one is now so bad that it now ghosts 90% of the time in any orientation.

further observations of the months of owning both tablets is my "cheap" tablet stand. a V-shaped clawfoot style device that when opene has 2 rubber prongs that wrap under the device and hold the tablet from the front with the rubber feet pressing agsintthe screen as the tablets weight keep the device in place....

the issue wiht this is that while IN the device.. interacting wiht the touch screen not only shoots ghosting to 100% every time.. it changed the pattern of the ghosting from randong.. to always rapid firing on the same horizontal line as the fingers placement.

from a side angle you cold clearly see due to the light of the surrounding environment that the pressure points of the clawfoot design was putting so much pressure on the screens surface it was deforming the screens glass.

this deformation was clearly having a HUGE impact in the internal hardware, the tightness of the overall case itself.. and thus an adverse effect on the touch sensitive film placed beneath the glass.

is this the case with the 50% fail rate of the SGN10.1'14? cant fairly say.. but in other threads alot of users are using the comon china bluetooth keyboard case combo which also uses the same 2 pressure point onthe screen system.. deforming the shape of the tablet.

and the 50% fail rate is also another clue.. for if it was a software issue.. it would be 100%.. so IMO the evidence is overwhelming that the multi touch and ghosting issue.. is most likly hardware related.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ettepetje:
As has been described before by many people in this topic the issues mentioned in the opening post start only after keeping your hand or finger(s) on the screen for a while. Multitouch works fine without doing that. The issues seem to be identical in both cases (hand/ finger) on my unit, with an impact far outwaying the "is it a deliberate 'stuck key' algorithm?" question.

Also, in my experience pressure on the case or screen doesn't influence the issues. I have mine laying around unencumbered 99% of the time and use a thick comfortably-fitting woolen Belkin iPad sleeve during transport, so no chance on (pressure) damage either. Furthermore my 2014 Note 10.1 doesn't creak and is solid enough to not seem overly cheap. I bought mine literaly on day one, early October, and it has been having the exact same multitouch issue since I discovered this 'defect' 4 and a half months ago.

There could very well be a hardware issue at the heart of these multitouch problems only I have not yet found a single clue to point in that direction.

On a hunch I tried to create the multitouch issues while keeping 3 fingers steadfast on the screen and waited for 20 seconds. The touches had not yet disappeared in the multitouch testing app when I removed my fingers. In case of capacitance build up caused by my hand and/ or fingers you would think that the three fingers combined would cause issues much quicker than the one finger. It didn't: I had no issues after holding 3 fingers on the screen for 20 seconds. Seeing that placing part of your hand on the screen causes issues in about 5 seconds these latest findings would seem to further undermine the capacitance (bad grounding) theory.

Edit: I added the "noisy touch-detection" video mentioned by hpblze to the opening post.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] haterbait:
More details

While messing with this some more I noticed that for my screen to start shaking, I must first actually make some sort of movement, be it scrolling or zooming. I can usually place 1 or 2 fingers on the screen without causing zooming or scrolling and have the screen remain still. However, after making any slight movement and stopping with fingers still on the screen, the shaking starts. It's much worse with 2 fingers. Also, because the spen seems to cause the tablet to ignore other touchscreen inputs when it is in proximity to the screen, placing it on the screen WHILE the screen is shaking makes it stop. Makes sense, but just some things I noticed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] alpha_330:
hi to youmc

in game solution specially MC4 when problem starts to eratic reaction i lock the screen and unlock again problem gone

but problem came back randomly

but this issue kills me in gaming like MC4 or FIFA14
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] RussellEstridge25:
So tell me this, anyone can reply. Does the multi touch issue bug you enough to return your tablet, sell your tablet or just deal with it even if KitKat won't fix it. Cause I know it won't.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] haterbait:
Trying to return it now

Yeah, because it's never going to be fixed, I'm attempting to return it. A service center said nothing was wrong with it so I'm having difficulty proving my case to Samsung. I wonder how many videos of myself reproducing the problem they'll need... Anyway, for me, because there are people with the same tablet as me who apparently aren't having this problem, I don't want it anymore. Also, there are many other options out there that would give me the functionality I need without the nuisance. To bad too, because I like pretty much everything else. I'm quite picky with devices like this though. It needs to perform to my expectations or it needs to be gone. Not that my expectations are unrealistically high, but something like this that interferes with my usage is intolerable to me, particularly when it's an expensive device. After returning this tablet, though, I may end up buying it again as long as I can test it in the store before purchase. I may also look at the 12 inch version. Don't worry Samsung, you won't lose the sale! (maybe) Until my personal situation is resolved, I'll be sure to update here with any news regarding this hardware/software problem.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] alpha_330:
i disagree with u this problem too similar issue on Asus Nexus 7 2012 ((some device have multitouch issue)) can find this story on google

but google and asus solved their issue with software update

but samsung too lazy for update disterbuting for this table look at the latest updates :

1.P601-17d 20h ago latest update

2.p600-38d 14h ago latest update

this table too laggy and samsung developers too lazy but ill be waiting for 4.4 update .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] bergwitza:
Well, that's cute, but haterbait is right.. let me remind you that the original (non-white) galaxy note 10.1 still has these issues and no software update did anything to fix them yet. Therefore it's never going to be fixed seems like a good guess to me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jaytee23:
It just seems like there is no way to bring this to the attention of anybody at Samsung who cares. The low level people seem to be oblivious to the issue, even when it is described perfectly and is easy to reproduce. This appears to me to be a problem with Samsung as a whole. It's as if they just don't give a **** or at least the people and processes they have in place to collect issues are disconnected enough so that the issues are not making it to the decision makers and staff who can actually fix this stuff.

I know I may get some flak for this, but this is a serious question. Does anyone here speak and write Korean? It just seems to me like the only way to get attention for this is to bring this issue to a Korean Samsung forum and make noise there. Or contact Samsung Korea directly.

I'll tell you what, if this doesn't get fixed, this 2014 Note 10.1 will be the last Samsung Android device I purchase. I will not accept that a $500/$600 device I purchased has a major flaw like this and that it will not be fixed. This is completely unacceptable.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Duly.noted:
My 12.2 does not exhibit this behaviour
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
Good idea , I think someone should post this in the Korean forum . I mean this thing shivers even when you pinch to zoom .. And a bug in the most basic function should be fixed . I heard Nexus 7 too had the same issue and Google frantically tried to push an update to lessen the shaking issue .. Samsung do something !!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jaytee23:
The major issue I'm referring to is the 24-second single area touch then touchscreen freakout/reset behavior. There are many games that are unplayable because of that. Frankly, I don't really consider the icon shake to be major or even an issue.

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What behavior specifically? Did you try holding an icon for 24~30 seconds to see if it drops on it's own? (as described in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49946391&postcount=61) If not, please try it and report back. It only takes a minute to try it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Duly.noted:
Any of it. I tried recreating it with all the described methods and am not encountering any of the single touch dropping shaking or anything else people are describing. I never even got a shaking icon.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jaytee23:
Thanks for doing that. It's encouraging news since the tablets are similar and theoretically, we 10.1 users are probably getting an update derived from your rom.

Speaking of rom, what is the firmware version on the 12.2?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] haterbait:
More bad news from Samsung

After going back and forth a bit with customer service regarding the screen "jittering" while holding fingers on it, I emailed the office of the president who asked me for more info. I sent multiple videos of myself reproducing the problem. Here's the response I got today:

Thank you for sending the additional information.*

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The videos and your experiences with the unit have been reviewed by Samsung products specialists and based that information available it appears the unit is working within manufacture specifications as confirmed by the recent repair diagnosis.* The ‘jitter’ experience appears to be the slight vibration of the hand being reflected in the screen movement.*

*

If you would like to have the unit reviewed once again under the warranty, I would be happy to arrange it.* Respectfully, Samsung will not be honoring your request for an exchange or buyback at this time.

*

Thank you.

*

Tracy F. | Office of the President

Corporate:* 85 Challenger Road, 7th Floor l Ridgefield Park, NJ 07660

(:*888-480-5675*(Press 7 during greeting then ext. 10676)* |*6:*973-529-0347*|tracyf@sea.samsung.com

Needless to say, I'm disappointed. I'm still sending it in again, not sure why, but maybe some smart repair tech will find something or turn down the sensitivity, if that is indeed the problem. As you can see, I included the contact information for the person who I talked to If anyone else wants to attempt a repair or complain. I'm thinking about creating a new thread with my entire time-line of events including each email response I've received throughout it in hopes that other people considering buying this tablet will have an idea of what type of customer support awaits them if they run into any issues which Samsung considers to not actually exist. So I suppose for now, officially, the screen shaking is within manufacturer specifications. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Great job Sammy! I'll keep updating, although I really have no hope at this point.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
Sad :(

Ok Sammy does not want to see it as an issue , fine .. but I am sure some one on XDA can make a fix for this issue , or even a workaround .

I heard that things related to the touchscreen are in the Kernel . Can some brilliant guy/gal look into this .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Duly.noted:
I'm on the Thailand rom. to be honest never saw the issue on my 10.1 either.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] bergwitza:
Thats exactly what they told me when I sent in my original 10.1 for the third time.

Do yourself a giant favour, return the device, forget about this and move on. There is no way you can make them care about this. Too few people are affected and even the ones that are don't notice because they are occasional users. Accept the fact that there is no decent tablet with an active digitizer. And no, I don't trust the "i'm not affected" reports completely.. this whole thing looks very systemic to me, maybe your tablet isn't affected yet but who says all these issues won't kick in a year from now?

Either Sony makes their 13" E-Ink device affordable or Apple adds a real pen to their iPads. Until then: there is no decent tablet with an active digitizer ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
Issue has been fixed

There is a new post on XDA which mentions that the shaking issue , has been fixed in a new Official Samsung Rom

Check out the link here -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2682101

It looks like a Korean Rom looking at the text

I am now hoping that this comes to us !!

And In my country there is no return policy unless its a damaged item , so have to hang on to it ! But I think it will be fixed
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] inSight01:
Yes. I have noticed that when typing fast it would not detect key touches which was a bit annoying. Have to type a little slowly. I'm sure an update will fix this issue though.

But what's up with the device randomly stopping detecting screen touches yet physical keys still work. This a bug? Have to reboot the device before it detects screen touches again.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Duly.noted:
Excuse me? This is a spectacular tablet both the 10.1 and 12.2

You just called all of us that dont have the issue liars essentially.

In what case during average use does anyone even notice this issue? Touching the screen in one place without moving for 30 seconds? Are you freaking kidding me? Only one guy noticed this and brought it to everybody elses attention. Op has brought shame and ruin upon us by bringing up a stupid problem. During regular use even if you have this issue you shouldn't ever see it!! People had to try multiple times with touch screen tracking apps just to create the issue!! Now to be fair a link was posted to a Korean rom not showing the issue as well. As far as tablets go this is the best device in the entire market. Hands down no exceptions it is king. If you dont like it get out of the forum and get your *!# into an apple store to pickup an ipad. You're bashing on a great product using the pretense that the ipad with pen or sony's product would be what? Flawless? You are nothing but a troll.

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Also samsung does a great job with updates for their flagships. Even the note 2 and s3 are slated for kitkat. Who else besides apple is updating devices that old? Oh thats right nobody!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] poplectic:
The hardware or software that doesn't have some little quirks in it doesn't exist and never will. I do think though, that a "bug" that requires me to download an app to recreate that "bug" isn't really a bug in my book.

Sent from my alphanumeric pager
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
The issue is prominent in daily usage .

For our tablets with the issue , just keeping the finger pressed on the screen for even few seconds while even scrolling , the screen shakes .Also the touch isnt registering properly at times , it taps elsewhere .

The screen shakes more rapidly when pinching to zooming too .

The nexus 7 had the exact same issue that was fixed in an firmware update.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] bergwitza:
You should work on your manners and maybe temper too.

No. I said that the issue seems systemic to me (we're talking two generations here) and that it wouldn't surprise me if seemingly unaffected devices would start showing symptoms later.

Right, now define regular use. I bought the device in order to replace all the paperwork that I had to generate every week during classes and for exercises. My regular use looks like this: Pen in the right hand, palm on the right side of the screen.. for hours.

Next, imagine how much writing sucks if the zoom suddenly starts acting crazy and you don't have a clue why. Also, imagine how long it takes to figure out what the hell is going on. And finally, imagine the frustration after shadowboxing your local store for 4 (!) months because they and their samsung certified technicians don't have a damn clue what your problem is even though a lengthy demonstration of the problem can be found in the video you made just for them.

My post was nonbinding advice to haterbait (and others). It's cool if one pursues such bugs until they're all squashed but you might find yourself with a time consuming hobby instead of a tool.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ettepetje:
Please refrain from this type of posting in this topic. Sometimes people may act a bit emotional here, understandable if you buy an expensive device that you discover to have issues and the manufacturer simply ignores you. If you don't have multitouch issues then please move on, unless you have something constructive to say.

Also, as you can read in the opening post: the original, less common multitouch issue IS a true nuisance for anyone using an S-Pen or for anyone that uses on-screen controls during gaming. While only a few dozen people so far have reported suffering this more severe version, many more devices will be affected.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] alpha_330:
P600 users please check this firmware from sammobile and say ur feedbak issue solved or not

i cant test this firmware becuase my tablet is p601

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26749
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
I have a P601 device and I flashed the following files in Odin over my current stock rom to fix the multitouch issue

first the boot.tar and then the recovery.tar

link

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q12j5o1hmq7txxm/Ts7mma_Ndw

But do note that after the flash , your wifi and 3g will stop working

as of now there is a fix for the wifi but the 3g is still not working

the wifi fix for now is here , search for the user starsky at the bottom he has mentioned the remedy - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2682101&page=2
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] haterbait:
So...

So did doing that fix the multitouch issues previously described in this thread? Namely, the screen shaking while holding 2 fingers and the sporadic movement seen when using a multitouch screen testing app. I'm still all stock and still trying to possibly return my tablet, so I don't wanna mess with my warranty, but if Samsung has addressed this problem in an update, I'd be quite stoked. My gf with an iPad would no longer be able to claim superiority when I attempt to brag about all the stuff this tablet does that hers doesn't. "At least my screen doesn't shake like someone with Parkinson's programmed it."
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] RussellEstridge25:
Yes and yes. In the general section the OP explains exactly what we did and it's fixed for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] hpblze:
Its fixed about 80 percent .. it now happens very very rarely to barely noticeable levels.

I am happy .. and returning the tablet is no option as I will terribly miss the multi window and s pen features that are not found in other tablets ..