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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thunderblaster88:
But most people that will actually take the chance of unlocking the bootloader or root will most likely know how to fix it if it bricks, and if they left it unlocked it would make it easier to fix our self without haven to call those aceholes when we can't have a custom recovery and no way of doing a flash fix. I do understand their point but most likely anyone who would need to call customer service is someone that hasn't and wouldn't try root. If they did they would probably seek help on here before they called Verizon also.

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BTW I'm following your 4.4.4 thread waiting to see if you found root. Any update on that? I just 3 days ago had to flash a stock tar because I myself was messing with system files and messed up my jasmine rom 6.1 I've had and could no longer get it to respond once booted up, reset would fix it..this is also why unlocked bootloaders would have helped, they have in my past with many other phone I've had
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Waterickson:
Years ago, about 2003, I had an HTC 8025. I called AT&T because my WiFi wouldn't work from the gitgo... They referred me to XDA. When I got on the site I couldn't believe that they sent me here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sonkameja:
there other options in the market, Samsung isn't the only option out there and really how many of us actually use the damn stylus pen.

I'm making it a point not to buy Samsung phones ever again , or from Verizon.

As long as I live.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kloun:
i`m in!

Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Nickchapstick:
How'd the petition work out?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] FrostyOrDie:
Signed

beamed from transporter room 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] flascrnwrtr:
At least he's trying. What a rude, dumba$$ and useless comment.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] moemoney12:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeamonsterZ24:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] 666syco:
Singed.

there is hope for anything even if I hope Verizon stops trying to get us from the back. I paid to much to give up I hate stock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] P2o8wer:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] daavy:
signed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Amen
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
When i had my asus tf300t we (on xda) had a petition for the bootloader unlock and it worked.

Given it's a different company, it's always worth a try.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Come on guys 11 more signatures and Verizon will see this and reach a milestone! Copy the petition link and tweet it to Verizon. We will win!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
That's awesome! Share your story with others and get the word out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I sure am! Ill pass the petition around the house.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Use this url when tweeting to Verizon, it's a shortened link due to twitters word limit. http://goo.gl/NkQDha it's not like an ad.fly link. I generated it via Google and it goes Strait to the page.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Come on guys!! 2 more until 100 sigs, just imagine in a week if we keep sharing this? Many devices bootloader has been unlocked due to community outbreak! Lets go! :highfive:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rsohne:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cinsity:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
Signed probably need thousands to even be looked at though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
wow

113 sigs ! congrats dude , whats your next goal ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
I'm going to add more people to the email list. Every Time you guys sign the petition an email gets sent to

Unfortunately only about 20 were sent because I didn't implement this feature until about the 100th sig. :(

And

I need more contacts to add, so if you want to add someone (verizon and samsung related) to the emailing list please print in this format for me to add asap.

Name:

Office, title or organization:

Email:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Milly7:
I think we all should tweet the link to Verizon as well. At least if we flood them it will get some attention.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Use this link so the url doesn't take the whole message, http://goo.gl/NkQDha. :cowboy:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] snwbrdr852:
No offense, cause it sounds like English is not your first language...

But the fact that it's not even written in proper English is going to make it look like a complete joke to these big shots you're sending it to.

If you want to be taken seriously, it needs to sound professional.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Sorry, I have yet to fix the grammatical errors. If you want to p.m. me a revised version then I for-sure consider it. I'm busy doing other stuff. And who are these "big shots" you're referring to? These just get forwarded to the Customer support I'm guessing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kingkongsmith:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] flascrnwrtr:
Tweeted link
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Just spammed those 2 email addresses a $#!! Load with the petition! If anyone gets bored I'd do the same thing! You never know! It might work!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] agentxavier:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MrUnionFan:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pimpmaneaton:
Signed. DAMN you Verizon set our devices free!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] razvu:
Signed this as well...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] matt0720:
signed. I doubt it'll accomplish anything but at least we are trying something.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rufflez2010:
I signed even though I'm probably going to return the device in the morning. I miss the note 2 for many more reasons that I like this phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
Signed! Great thread. Great idea.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] highcee:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] b00mb00mchuck:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cdmoore74:
Just to play devils advocate isn't this the reason for Google play editions? Verizon/Samsung will make you pay full retail for a device that very few can afford just to shut people up. This is why Samsung lost me as a customer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bern612:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] opc3000:
Signed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
not to be a buzz kill but they could care less about a petition to unlock bootloaders. that is why they offer the developer phones for all of us that want an unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] deathshead:
Took the words right outta my mouth.

Hows that Droid X petition going?

HAH
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] flascrnwrtr:
Why do you guys feel the need to piss on other people's ideas. Do you get off on it? If you don't agree with it, just move on and stop spewing the negative rhetoric.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] deathshead:
Not trying to piss in anyones corn flakes here, But Its because its a proven waste of time, perhaps if you coordinated a "Hand Across America"

or a Jerry Lewis telethon, buying primetime television airtime such as Ross Perot did in his

1992 presidential campaign, then perhaps that would get the point across.

But if you honestly think that Verizon will see 1 out of 900 petitions about customers complaining will actually

make anything happen then you are delusional.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] flascrnwrtr:
My point was... If you don't agree with it or you don't think it will work, why post at all. Just to rial people up? Is it hurting anything to let them try? Is the bootloader more locked down, if it doesn't work?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] deathshead:
Its called a sense of humor. If your so bent on an unlocked bootloader

then why not look into a nexus device or wait for a developer edition?

You have a better chance of of Jesus knocking on your door to use the bathroom than

Verizon putting out a statement proclaiming "all Note 3 bootloaders shall be unlockable!"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Let's stop this here before it gets out of hand.

Thank you.

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
this ^

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what they cant have a discussion????
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
It does make an impact. Even if the position doesn't work at least they will know we won't bend down and get fudged by Verizon. They get an email to their corporate office everyone someone signs. Many devices bootloader had been in unlocked even a few Verizon devices after 3,000 or so people. Times have changed, and there is no doubt in my mind if we get 3,000+ supporters, they would comply. Now the reason the mod stopped this conversation because it's counterproductive. If you guys want to debate take it to the p.m. If you feel that strong.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] chrootz:
FYI, One of my friend bought full retail price note 3 (keep his grandfathered unlimited data account) from Verizon corp store and he asked wondering his new note 3 is or is not unlock boot loader.

The Verizon said his note 3 is unlock boot loader and I double checked his SELinux status show "Permissive". My fiancee's note 3 is on under 2 yrs contract showed "Enforcing" on SELinux status.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Look, up to this point I've been generous allowing this thread to remain open. Petitions are not what xda is about. Discussion about development is fine, discussion about "these things never work" are not. This type of discussion tends to escalate quickly. Next time there is a problem I probably won't be so lenient. Also, if you intend to question a moderators actions, do it by PM. Open forum is not the place to do so. Ever. Or we will be having an entirely different discussion.

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I dont disagree i posted above i dont think it will work just wanting to hear what the guy i quoted had to say about it though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] icurunnin:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] the_kwa:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Milly7:
Don't mean to go off topic, but what does the permissive mean in terms of achieving an unlocked bootloader? I am under 2 yrs contract but my SELinux status is permissive as well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] drew8631:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
Hey Brandon. Can you post a link to this thread in my thread. Hopefully it will help the cause
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nnnnr14:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I bought one on contract for $209 and mine says the same thing permissive, it means nothing at this point and designgears and crew are aware
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Signed... tell Verizon to smoke more weed and stop walking around with a broom stick up there A$s:thumbup::D:cool:

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BA0714:
Singed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
What we should do is have a bunch of us tell Verizon if they don't unlock the bootloader or let us swap our locked Note 3 for a developer edition were all gonna sell our note 3's for $650+ pay the $350 to cancel our contract and go to T-Mobile and buy a Note 3 from them and start a new contract with T-Mobile! This will show Verizon that we really care about an unlocked boot loader and such! Also it will give T-Mobile more customers fed up with Verizon and because of the big switch and more money they get it could lead to more cell towers from T-Mobile so there service would get better too! Its kind of a win win situation if a lot of people followed! Just speaking my mind! Trying to keep development for android going!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
This device is part of VZW enterprise portfolio, so they will not unlock the device for the sake of a few thousand rom fans. Also, the cost of people messing their devices up when romming and using customer support, etc is too much money down the drain.

That said, Verizon should at least have a way to unlock devices for people that choose to sign and void their warranty for those that purchase at full price. That way, VZW does not have to dwell on support costs for people that do mess their devices up and rommers will be happy. Not sure what could be done for people with subbed contract devices.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] joeyac02:
Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
That's actually very logical, I like that.

Offer us a way to unlock the bootloader in exchange for a voided warranty.

Of course it's asinine it has come to that. And manufactured defects (Sammy power/volume buttons anyone? ) would end up costing a pretty little deductible, assuming we're all insuring our beast in some fashion, instead of being replaced for free under the warranty.

Either way, at this juncture I'd be willing to take that trade. I kept my unlimited and managed to make money AND get the Note 3, after selling my beautiful unlocked, Note 2. So selling the N3 and waiting for a DE doesn't appeal to me, and I do really enjoy this phone over any other phone I've ever used.

All that off topic junk said, I'm glad people are still signing this petition. It doesn't matter 1 iota all the people who say this is for naught. This is our voice. We have few ways to get it out. But whether they listen to us and change their stance or not is not the point (though it's what we're aiming for of course), it's the fact that we're using it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ContractorDude:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pheany:
signed myself.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] johnminator:
I cant afford a Dev Edition should i just get a nexus 5?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Most likely there won't be a Nexus 5 for Verizon. Verizon kinda pulled the plug as far as I've heard. But there is a chance, last year the lte chip was almost useless. It was disabled by default because it didn't have a 4glte antenna built into the device. But I'm pretty sure they will include a full functioning lte device this year. So there is a chance it can come to Verizon. But you can always get a gsm carrier. And if you upgrade the to the Verizon note 3. Just get the subsidized price of it, then sell it for 700$ and use that to buy the dev. Edition. That's what I'm going to do...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] JayToTheMo:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] azrowdydog:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Supposedly kitkat 4.4 reactivates the LTE in the nexus 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
Doubtful it will support Verizon's LTE band.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Very doubtful. More likely at&t.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Skip Richmond:
signed

Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] johnminator:
Gonna just by the nexus 5 straight up bro its just 345 not as bad as going thru all the other trouble. Plus im on my moms plan and dont want to freak her out. lmbo
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] boomerams4l:
Signed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] FckingAllen:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] goldy253:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ThePwnageKidney:
i will never do this. i value reliability and coverage more than roms. if i really wanted it that badly, i would find an unlocked Google edition Note 3 and use it on verizon than do anything with T mobile.

i get hundreds of people every week asking me to fix their phones on T mobile and since BBY doesnt service T mobile, i can only tell them to switch.

Please note that this is based on location. Arizona + T mobile = poor service *currently*
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] johnminator:
Well has anybody been trying to unlock the bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TJF2012:
How about you read first? Stop trolling

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Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Not anymore. This is off topic. Please revert from questions in this thread to keep it clean.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexxxmackie:
Happily signed!

Happily signed!:laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TJF2012:
Come on people lets keep this going!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] streetracer8605:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hilfey:
signed. Was sad to see that there weren't a lot more signatures on this already.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
Signed as well. Dont even have a verizon Note 3 ( got the T mobile version with bootloader unlocked) But i cannot stand this locked bootloader thingy. Im using AT&T and thank God the T mobile version supports AT&T's LTE network otherwise ill be in the same boat as you guys.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexxxmackie:
6k views and the petition isnt complete. Cmon ppl. It takes 2 minutes if that. SIGN ITTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
You guys know what would kick up speed is email writers for cnet and engadget and xda to do a story about unlocked bootloaders and to petition against them. We would pick up dust so fast, and believe me... Verizon would get the message.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
And include a link for our petition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmboulware:
Signed!

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Just like HTC did...make people sign up for the unlock codes so you are volunteering to void your warranty and putting yourself on the grid. Those of us who are experienced with flashing won't care because we aren't likely to do something stupid and brick the phone.

JB
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] stkman32:
Signed...I hope it works. This sucks not being able to ROM this gorgeous device!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] speedoguy:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I understand what you're trying to do but your going about it the wrong way. Instead of creating a petition to unlock the bootloader, you should create a petition/boycott against Samsung and have people sign up not to buy Samsung phones going forward. Regardless if people are being honest or not, that will get much further and faster with Samsung!!!! Think about it, right now Samsung/ Verizon is like oh another bootloader petition hahaha, but if Samsung see a boycott petition against Samsung products, they will have to do something because world of mouth spreads fast and Samsung can't afford to lose business. Think about it.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
It's not Samsung, it's never been Samsung. It's all Verizon 100%. Some people don't have a choice to switch carriers due to their coverage. Like me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
. It has nothing to do with Samsung, Verizon forces Sammy to lock the bootloader if they want thier products on VZW's network. T-mobile and Sprint N3's are unlocked.

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Same here...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dragonfly1113:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zombieplanalpha:
I'm an advocate for these petitions, I am just getting disillusioned by Verizon. Looks like hashcode has safe strap all but done and working. Beta already out. I am sure ROM development is right around the corner. Might loose a little space on internal SD with safe strap partitioning but I would rather lose a few GB of storage and run custom roms than just have root access. If you haven't already I would consider dropping hashcode a few bucks if you're in the position to do so. I for one am greatful

Edit

Damn auto correct misspelled hashcode I fixed it. Hope no one was really confused for a minute

I've got more jelly beans than Jelly Belly. On my S3, Note 2 and my S4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Oops... wrong thread. delete
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Bump
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zombieplanalpha:
No need for bumb. Root and then safe strap. There are instructions to overwrite the factory ROM so there is no wasted space on internal storage. If you want custom kernel buy the development edition.

The Snozberries taste like snozberries...but my Note 3 doesn't taste like JellyBeans.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Hahhha, I can bump if I want. But even though its low in sigs, they need to get the message. When kitkat comes and sets the selinux to enforcing, were screwed. I'm not a big kernel fan, but it would be nice to just have twrp on recovery. But beggars can't be choosers. And that tut. was mine lol, the irony. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
At this point it doesn't make sense for Verizon to go through unlocking the bootloader when there's the Developer edition (granted Samsung actually gets more in stock). The only screwup they or Samsung did was neither providing Developer recovery files nor allowing the Developer edition to be recognizable by Kies.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Dont knock [MENTION=3982842]Brandonrz[/MENTION] for trying guys! If no one tries, then they keep doing this!

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
We voted with with our wallets, they don't care about anything else.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zombieplanalpha:
That's some truth right there

The Snozberries taste like snozberries...but my Note 3 doesn't taste like JellyBeans.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Not true. Many other times petitions have availed some results. I've said before, we petitioned to asus for the tf300t bootloader and it worked.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rogerwalker22:
Signed, just rooted and have Beans Rom
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
Asus didn't have a service provider telling them what to do. Apple's and oranges.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I guess. Im just saying its been done before regardless of what it is.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
Yes, this exact same thing has been done for every device on Verizon with a locked bootloader. I've signed about 10 of em.

For the "screw you man, its worked before!" people - let me know the last Verizon device that it worked for. Verizon fights this HARD in federal court on a regular basis, you think they'll just unlock it for people just because a petition was sent? That would have been a waste of millions of dollars fighting it in court........:rolleyes:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
It's better than doing nothing :/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bullet15963:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] stoneyb245:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] amebiasis:
New FCC chairman pushing for more rights for users to have bootloader unlocked

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=20902373&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fxdaforums.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D47509894
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Chillout2010:
Signed

Sent from my SM-N900V
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jeckel51:
Of course I will sign this. Strength in numbers, no matter the size of the Army

My Note3 is locked but my XDm45 is loaded.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Thats for cellphone unlocking for gsm phones be able to use any carrier. 2 different things, I wish more people cared about bootloader unlocking on cellphones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] andrewjt19:
Signed

TappEd from my Note II

Check out my website for encouragement....

www.projectintercession.blogspot.com[/QUOTE]
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Nickchapstick:
Signed

P.S. Poor grammar in the tittle haha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
How so and which one. Thanks for signing :)