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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jfran:
Re: hi

He would soon have RIM and Seven (and possibly individual network operators) after him, as it would represent a direct threat to their market share ;(

rgds

Jim
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Mudstuffin:
Brilliant app Geoff - keep up the good work :D

Would it be possible to add a view button to the notify message to take you straight to the default messaging app (perhaps customizable in the vsgmail control?)

Cheers

Si
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Minor update, only for those with working outgoing email; now the To: and From: fields in the outgoing email should be set correctly.

In response to other queries:

1) WM5: Yes, it is very high on my list of priorities, but there are two main obstacles:

a) I have no WM5 phone. This means that I can only do testing in the emulator which might or might not limit how much I can do. I had a phone on order but then cancelled it and am now waiting for the o2 xda atom.

b) WM5 introduced the concept of 'signed' and 'unsigned' executables. Unsigned executables are rather limited in what they are allowed to do with the phone, and a few bits of the vgsmail client code will not run in 'unprivileged' mode; so therefore I have to work out how to get the code signed. I haven't looked into that, but I'm concerned that it might be a rather complicated (and expensive) procedure. Thanks Microsoft.

2) My employment status: I run http://www.visualgeometrysolutions.com and so schedule my own time :). However, I do plan on making vgsmail commercial at some point, with the hopes of paying for the time I have spent. But don't worry, we're not talking enormous amounts of money...

3) Sending email: the current state of the outgoing email is slightly flakey and will be improved significantly very soon. The main restriction is that your SMTP server must support 'LOGIN PLAIN' authentication and the userid/password combinations must be the same for your IMAP and SMTP servers. So if you are unable to send email with vgsmail, this is probably the reason.

4) GPRS reconnect. I've had a number of requests to have vgsmail automatically force the phone to connect via GPRS if the connection isn't already present. I like this suggestion and I will do it ASAP. However in the meantime, I suggest installing "Stay Connected" from http://www.slipstreamsolutions.co.uk on trial; it works just great and I have another 7 days left on my trial by which time I hope to have implemented this myself.

5) "View button". I'll look into that; I'm not exactly sure what messages to send to tmail.exe to get it to display a particular message but it might be possible...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
Dr Geoff

I guess this is how PocketZenPhone commercialized as well. So I volunteer as beta-tester :-) and wait what the future will bring us.

Cheers, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] lambretta:
Geoff - did you get my PM

Sent it to you a day or so ago?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
lambretta:

Can you confirm that you are still experiencing hangs with the 10/12/2005 version.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Yet another release.

After recommending "Stay Connected" yesterday it started crashing on me on a regular basis. So I have now got rid of it entirely and the vgsmail client will automatically create a GPRS connection if the phone isn't already connected to the network (via ActiveSync, bluetooth or wireless).

I have also fixed a bug which was draining the battery when the phone was in 'flight mode'. The client should now completely sleep in this mode and not cause any battery drain at all.

I'm particularly interested in hearing about the stability of the current batch of releases as this is something I promised I would look at. As far as I know, the current release is pretty stable; I have been running the same instance of the client for the last day or so without any trouble at all. I would also like to hear of anyone running vgsmail on anything other than a Magician so that I can start to provide support for other phones (although still no WM5).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] lambretta:
VGSmail on BA

Hi Geoff.

New build seems to run great - doesn't hang and will alert me of a new message when using GPRS with the BA turned off! WOW!

An interesting thing I have found now is when you try and create a new VGS mail account. My intial trials were with a my fastmail account but for various reasons I wanted to change over to my everyday IMAp email account.

I first delted the old VGSmaill account in messaging, I then deleted the client and then the transport. I re-installed everything and created a new mail account with different incoming and outgoing server addresses but for some reason, regardless of what I have in these fields it still populates the inbox with the old fastmail account emails, its as if these fastmail server details are hard stored somewhere.

I guess a hard reset could fix it but would rather not - is there another fix?

Chers

M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Re: VGSmail on BA

lambretta:

Installing the transport should clear all registry keys. So do the following:

1) shutdown the vgsmail control panel;

2) delete all vgsmail profiles in outlook;

3) uninstall the transport

4) install the transport using the most recent release from the website

5) create the account you want (only one) in outlook.

If that doesn't work, there is something strange with your device. You could try getting a registry editor and removing the entire tree under

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/VGS

And if that doesn't work, I'm very confused and suggest a warm reset, buying a new phone or ...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
Geoff,

This new auto-connect feature is a bit too persistent, it keeps crashing my AS connection. Must say that my home pc hasn't got an internet connection & at work I'm not allowed to connect through my pc to the internet.

Uncheckin 'online' does solve the problem, but other constantly online apps. are missing this feature so maybe you can take a look at it.

Cheers, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
oltp:

Try today's new version. It should fix your problem.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
YES does works great, no disconnect of AS anymore & connect immediately after unplugging usb.

Thanks again, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
mail.ru

hi! I`ve monitored this topic & now can say, after trying. my account is on russian free mail.ru supports imap. does anybody know work this stuff with mail.ru or not? after authenticated connection lost always. what it could be?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
rustoss:

Please send me a log file. Either PM or pccbugs@vgsmail.com.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
sent
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gthoele:
SSL connection possible?

Hello,

Can SSL support be added? I am willing to send chocolate and a post card to the programmer for doing it...

(My installation does work nicely on an other non-SSL server, so i suspect there's nothing wrong on my side)

(How do you go about setting it up: I just clicked "options" instead of "Finish" on the screen where you enter the mail servers. Then you get the option of activating SSL)

(I imported the necessary certificate for SSL to work. It works for the "IMAP" account type)

I snooped into the network connection (using "Ethereal" on a desktop computer with activesync passthrough) and what happens is it does a nameserver query for the IP adress of my mailserver which succeeds, and tries to set up a connection to the mailserver on port 143 which fails, which is the port for non-ssl imap. So i decided it is missing some code to really do SSL, to port 993.

Even using an "Stunnel" on my desktop doesn't work (Stunnel is a special proxy software to allow non-SSL software to connect to SSL services):

Microsoft is so unbelievably dumb that, when you enter an IP Adress "192.168.131.102" as your mailserver (that's the adress of my desktop computer which the stunnel is running on), it asks the nameserver for what IP adress that IP adress translates for. (! Stupidity alarm!)

Every other software i've ever met knows how to deal with IP adresses directly, even a stupid Symbian mobile phone.

Well, can SSL be added?

Thanks

Gunnar
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
geoffreycross

, the same bug. what else? may be can`t work with this service(mail.ru), by the way, when i open prog from lower tray, see something then tap ok to today screen, the keyboard button stay on screen....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
stop..... just rerun prosses & everythig good. I`ve got new mail.

good job.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
notification

Geoffrey,

i wonder in this beta i can check only one account , how can i get sound notification? & there is no body of a message or it should be so, when i see vgs message, then i need check mailbox?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] micaman:
Hi Geoffrey,

I'm probably missing something obvious here but when I try to send an email the VGS account I created is not listed in the Account dropdown menu.

Anyone?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
Sounds can be set as usual for messeages via settings -> sounds&notifications.

The message will be downloaded completely when you set this in the account options on creating the account.

Regards, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
& to remade account what i need to? uninstall client & make account?

and may be bug-when charging, stuff says "you use activesyns"
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
Nope just delete the account & create it again, no need to deinstall (you can combine it ofcourse Geoff will probably have a new release tomorrow anyway). It works I did it too.

cheers, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
oltp

, thanx. I did it like you explain, but not working, i did uninstall it & install again & also not working. He gave me exe may be problem in it?!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] oltp:
Strange it works for me, having this setup for more than a week now. I'm running today's client, send an errorlog to Geoff maybe he can find something in it.

I did notice that first the headers arrive 2K and after that it's getting the rest of the body. This is a feature of the windows mail app when selecting get full message.

Regards, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
geoffreycross , i remake account again & it work. There is the same problem with windows-1251 like it was with russian gay before.

In a subject istead russian letters i have

=?windows-1251?Q?=D2=E5=EC=EE=F7=EA=E0?=
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] micaman:
Does anyone know why my vgsmail account is not listed when I try to send an email? I would love to see this work.

Thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
geoffreycross, one more may be bug, after soft reset vgs stay on the screen without minimize & also often don`t call connection. In this my case i rerun program sometimes several times. & a question is... What do you think about priority of start up,by MEMMAID i can change a position in start up or down. When i check defaults, vgs had first position, i tryed to put it in lowest after poutlook & nothing positive! Or also how about the time delay of starting up(in regedit where it could be?) i think it may bring some positive stuff??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Hi, apologies for the delay in responding to all the requests; I've been off-the-air doing other things for the last 24 hours.

1) SSL: This is on my to-do list, but it will probably be a few weeks before it hits the top.

2) 2k initial download of messages: Currently the client will download the first 1000 bytes of a message, completely ignoring whatever setting you put in the profile settings. This will obviously be fixed at some point in the future. Outlook then reports this as 2k for some reason (I think it includes things like the subject line and recipients, and then rounds up). To download the rest of the message, click on 'Mark for Download' in outlook.

3) =?windows-1251?Q?=D2=E5=EC=EE=F7=EA=E0?=: My support for multi-charsets is a bit limited at the moment. I'll flag this to be fixed.

4) Sound: I am currently using the default 'New Email' notification. You can change this under Settings -> Sounds and Notifications.

5) Start-up maximised: I have noticed this and will fix it. It's not high priority though.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Minor release on website.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
Is it latest release by date 12.12.05 ???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
there is no quantity of messsages on pop up....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
The notifications now imitate the default notifications given by pocket outlook normally:

- If you have 1 new email message you get a popup which says

<title>New e-mail message.</title>

<body>From: Someone</body>

- If you have 2+ new email messages you get a popup which says

<title>New e-mail messages.</title>

<body>You have 4 new e-mail messages.</body>
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Windows Mobile 5 users:

Please can a volunteer install the attached .dll into /windows on their phone and then run the .exe. This should get the vgsmail transport registered with Pocket Outlook, although I have no idea what will happen after that as I have no way of testing the transport (the emulator seems to be slightly broken).

WARNING: Do this at your own risk...

[edit: attachment removed as I have found a bug and am fixing it]

[edit:

Ok, I have now fixed the 'crashing' bug. HOWEVER the problem is not solved as there appears to be some kind of wierd difference between the MAPI implementation on pre-WM5 and WM5. Now I don't have an immediately fix, but if you really want to try out vgsmail using WM5 here is what you must do:

1) install the attached transport into /windows

2) run the attached .exe to register the transport

3) get yourself a registry editor and add the following keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VGS\Profiles\YOURPROFILENAME\IncomingServer = imap.yourdomain.com

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\VGS\Profiles\YOURPROFILENAME\OutgoingServer = smtp.yourdomain.com

making the obvious substitutions for YOURPROFILENAME, imap.yourdomain.com and smtp.yourdomain.com.

Then you can try installing the latest release of the client from http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ .]
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Duan:
I will give it a shot...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Don't. It will crash. I have a fix but need another 30 minutes to test it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] misterb101:
available on htc wizard (windows mobile 5) ?

Hi, I tried setting up the tool on my qtek 9100 running windows mobile 5

when I tried setting up the account the tool stopped working. At the end I had to hard reset my device to get it to work again. Does anybody else experience problems like this? I would love to use the program but I don't think it works in windows mobile 5.

Does anyone run it in windows mobile 5?

Cheers,

Rob
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] misterb101:
sorry guys

Sorry, I didn's see geoffrey was already working on this!

Good work Geoffrey!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Duan:
Ok I will hang tight... I will give it a shot when you have the fix...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Sorry... no idea what you're refering to.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Dandie:
edit: sorry, wrong thread :oops:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
I catch 1 email at once & during about 2 hour nothnig catched although mailbox has 6 new letters already!?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
& mailbox has many folders like inbox, outbox etc. & also it has folder "doubtful" , so those six letters are in doubtful folder & just catched 7th letter dropped to inbox....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
rustoss:

Send me a log
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
I can`t find it.....ooohh it was switched off, i switch it on, think it need a time to fill the log. May be tommorow morning?. now is 1.05am
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] micaman:
ok. i did a hard reset as per geoffrey's suggestion and I am now able to send mail... Thank you for this prgram Geoffrey...I can finally toss out my p.o.s. blackberry for good!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rocketrobot:
Hi

I am not having much luck with my O2 MINI-S on WM2005 (HTC Wizard). Can't seen to set up pocket outlook with the new vgsmail when I get to stage:

h) Finally you will be returned to main screen. Here you should click on the ‘connect’ button in order to synchronize these settings with the client.

It asks me if I trust the following dll.......

Then it just hangs. By the way I have to register the dll everytime I soft-reset. Do you want a log or something?

Can't wait to get this working, thanks for your efforts!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] testdebug:
wm2005

hi. i hope to get this to work on wm2005 as well. i want to try it but since wm2005 user report that it crash. i am now waiting for another release. hope that the author will release it shortly as i am waiting it now with my pda in hand. i am using the pre-wm2005 with certtificate chech removed. dunno if this make it easier to run?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] testdebug:
wm2005

still waiting...........
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] tdaubign:
More than 35Ko/hour

@geoffreycross : first of all, great job with your products, it s exactly what i m looking for !

However i ve got a problem with the amout of data send and received towards the network.I test it during all the night and i saw with spb GPRS monitor that i m using 35Ko/hour !!!! vgsmail log said that i spent only 5Kbts during all the night !

After observing the log file, i saw that the client can't stop connecting and disconnecting the imap server every hour (or a bit less).

For your information, i m using fastmail as imap server.

Can you explain me the difference pleaze ?

Thanx a lot !!!!

Tom
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] cseilern:
@tdaubign

i have come across the same thing - spb reporting much higher consumption than vgsmail. it seems though that whenever i connect the activesync usb cable, around 50-150k of data would be consumed (how and where, I just dont know!0.

@geofferycross

GREAT app! very useful. Some issues did come up:

1/ I cannot send (using smtp server on hosted exchange imap) - mail just gets stuck in outbox and log just stops at "sending messages", followed by a dropped connection).

2/ i cannot get my head around settings for how much vgs actually downloads (just headers, 2k, etc...) and I dont understand how to make it always get the last two week's entire emails without attchement.

3/ Folders: I cannot create/manage/set defaults on folders. I dont know if this is a vgs thing or an ISP thing, but it is a real hassle because it means that spam is not ending up in Junk Mail, but in my Inbox.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
done...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
tdaubign:

There are a number of reasons for the difference between vgsmail and SPB.

1) vgsmail only counts the bytes at the IMAP protocol level and so the IP and TCP headers are not counted;

2) other network messages such as TCP synchronisation packets are not counted;

3) things like DNS are not counted by vgsmail;

4) any other programs you have running will obviously not be counted by the vgsmail counters.

Basically, the counters in vgsmail are just a basic indication of how much traffic was sent at the 'mail' protocol level.

In general, if you paying so much per kB that it really worries you I would not recommend using vgsmail or any other 'push' email service.

Now why it is disconnected and reconnecting is another question and I'd like to see a log.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
cseilern:

1) Read this forum. There are some limitations on sending at the moment.

2) Read this forum. Many of the settings are not respected by vgsmail at the moment.

3) I have no idea what you're after, but I'm pretty sure it is not something which could be set by vgsmail.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
ALL:

Please don't report bugs without sending a log file to ppcbugs@vgsmail.com as there is very little I can do. And please paste a copy of your bug report into the email too so that I can match up bugs with logs.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] cseilern:
@geoffreycross

I have read the forum and i am aware that there are _some_ limitations on both setting and smtp sending, i just dont know what those limitations are.

I guess my question is: "what are the sending limitations?" and "what settings do you presently ignore?"

Thanks again for the great app!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
Sending is only working if your SMTP server requires authentication and if your login details are the same for your SMTP and IMAP servers and if your SMTP server supports the 'LOGIN PLAIN' extension.

All 'settings' are presently ignored.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rocketrobot:
Bit confused

My problem as stated above didn't prouce a log file as I am unable to set up mail account yet. I think my post was a bit out of date as I didn't see your update, saying not to bother trying the 2005 version.

Cheers.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] testdebug:
wm2005

ya. i also waiting to test the wm2005 version, waiting fromn yesterday :) hope to see a new release for wm2005 for us to test
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] testdebug:
hi

hi. Any update on the wm2005? i cannot wait and tested it on wm2005c and the inbox is unusable. hard seset again!!!. hope a new relese will fix it. thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
testdebug:

Please don't post repeatedly. I will post here when there is an update. This is also a Magician group and so WM5 is not relevant here; if you want to start a thread elsewhere feel free to do so and point me to it.

I published a transport on this forum a few days ago and one person reported problems; if that really doesn't work then my WM5 development will have to wait until I get an actual device (which will not be until Jan) as I am not seeing the problem in the emulator.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] misterb101:
Hey Geoffrey,

Since I've got a new wm5 phone I don't mind testing it. I just thought the last news from you was that it does crash and you were working on a fix. Did I miss that fix? and did that fix solve the problem in your emulator at least?

Cheers (and again good work)

Rob Boerman
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] cseilern:
@geoffreycross

apologies, for i have no wm5 problem, but i did discover a problem between vgs client and bluetooth (am i the only one?). it seems that if you swicth on bt when vgs is up and running, you get an "please switch off flight mode first" error. a soft reset, followed by a shutdown of the client, followed by swicthing on bt and all is well again. maybe the gprs keepalive mechanism is messing with the bt/gprs/gsm radio status (just a thought... i'm a complete development newbie...)?

also: pls let us know when you can specifiy independent imap and smtp server authentication credentials. my imap provider (1&1) seems to have a dodgy smtp track record.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
cseilern:

I am pretty sure that the problem is not with vgsmail directly. I am able to use BT fine on my phone and it seems very unlikely that anything vgsmail would do could actually cause a full reset.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] tdaubign:
ROM

I ve got the same pb that cseilern and i m pretty sure that it is a problem of ROM.

Which version of ROMs do you have geoffroy ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] geoffreycross:
My ROM versions:

ROM: 1.12.00 WWE

Radio: 1.12.10

Ext: 1.12.128 WWE

I think I saw some kind of BT patch on the i-mate website a while ago, but I didn't bother with it.