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[Xperia Z General] smash_07:
I don't think like that. The S4 Pro is a higly capable chipset, it's a less powerful Snapdragon 800 as it is based on Krait chips. Besides. the GPU used on both S4 Pro and 600 is the same Adreno 320. Qualcomm just decided to launch this Snapdragon 600 and 800 to look more futuristic but these are in reality enhanced S4 Pros. Google decided to put this very same S4 Pro on their Nexus 7 2013 released after our Xperia Z so that shows how realiable is this hardware and how capable it can be for the future.

Now related to the firmware. Has anyone noticed that the option in the SMS app for Cost Reduction has been removed? Now everytime I write a message with a special character it warns me that i'm limited do 70 characters instead of the 160. There used to be the option to convert the messages with special characters all automatically. Here in Portugal almost every word has a special character and I end up with limited space for typing. Does anyone know a way around rather than installing a third party app?
[Xperia Z General] NFSC31:
Everyday i checked update avaibility ant now when i open site i dont see version of curent update http://fuas.sonymobile.com/fuas/ser...mat=delta,image&channel=cable&cdfId=1270-7296 only this <updateAvailableResponse xmlns="http://uas.sonyericsson.com/UpdateAvailableResponse">

<releaseList/>

</updateAvailableResponse>

What do you think that means? Maybe update will be arriving shortly.. I hope so.. My region is CE3 - 1270-7296
[Xperia Z General] ilam82:
I have the same problem 1270-7937
[Xperia Z General] NFSC31:
I have a good felling :laugh::fingers-crossed: I heard phone get update a hour after this.. maybe we get update today.. i hope so..
[Xperia Z General] fieskmask:
Installed my 4.3 today, visually it looks good, the UI seems a bit more tweeked and feels nice.

Unbranded, Sweden.
[Xperia Z General] slim207rc:
There has been for locked bootloaders from.the very beginning! Look for NUTS root on 10.4.B.0.569

Im using that from day 1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565850
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
Yeah, but this isn't a root method. It's a custom ROM. There is a difference between root and custom rom ;)

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[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Downgrading to 4.2.2, rooting, and updating to 4.3 with any prerooted rom seems as valid rooting method as any other else. Remember that, at first, to root the previous. 67 firmware we had to downgrade the kernel, root, and upgrade, this time it is almost the same.
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
I don't agree. That means I can root my phones firmware with a custom ROM and that doesn't make sense for me. Also you don't root your phone with Cynogenmod. You "replace" just the actually ROM with a customized ROM :)

No, because here we/NUT/who ever just add the Recovery and Root to the ROM which we flash. There is no downgrading or something like with the .67 firmware.

I'm not afraid to learn something new, but this doesn't make sense for me right now.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
These are STOCK roms with root binaries and recovery added, they have nothing to do with other custom roms with added or removed things. If there were an exploit to root your stock 4.3 straight away, then you would end up having just the same as [NUT]'s zip in your phone.

I didn't understand anything you wrote in the second answer, but anyway, this things are not made for scared or picky people, every time Sony fixes past root exploits things are getting more difficult, we don't even know if there will be any exploit found in any 4.3 release, so better don´t root, less hassle for the rest of the forum.
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
Yeah, basically a stock based custom ROM.

I don't think so. Newbies will ask again and again how to become root. So no matter if anyone finds an exploit and give us the chance to root, they will always ask. :P

what exactly you don't understand? I give myself a lot of trouble to learn the language and it would be fine if you can say me what I did wrong in this sentence. How I wrote: I am not afraid to learn something. :) :victory:
[Xperia Z General] DrOreo:
4.3 NA on C6602.

Pros:

1. UI more fluid overall

2. Settings are better categorized

3. Multiple small apps can be opened and notification for them

4. More consistent battery life

5. Slight heat reduction

6. Lockscreen no longer shows time on notification and on lockscreen widget (more of a weird quirk with 4.2.2 IMO)

7. Better Camera UI

Cons:

1. To many accidental swipes on the right opens up search panel on app screen (left handed user here, not an issue for right handed users I wager)

2. rounded corners on UI that changes to square corners when you open other apps, notification, etc. (again a weird quirk of 4.3 I guess)

3. removed small widget browser (had to find APK here)

4. removed officesuite

The update has me impressed. Still room for improvement though!
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
I have OfficeSuite Pro, but removing it is very strange actually.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
No, it was the; "No, because here we/NUT/who ever just add the Recovery and Root to the ROM which we flash. There is no downgrading or something like with the .67 firmware."

But it is not necessary a language problem, maybe i don't get what you are trying to say, as to flash [NUT]'s rom (or any other in .zip format), if you don't have root in the first place, you have to downgrade to any exploitable firmware, root, and finally flash/update again.
[Xperia Z General] TitchyPenguin:
List of variants that have 4.3

Is there a list anywhere on here of variants/regions that have had the update yet?

Sorry if this is an inappropriate place to ask/obvious.
[Xperia Z General] Zaim2012:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2315914
[Xperia Z General] slim207rc:
Nope, it's the the official fw, just rooted and deodexed, take a closer look! :D
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
Ahh, now I see what you exactly mean.

Yeah but if you flash a pre-rooted ROM, you do not root. You "just flash a ROM".

I hope you understand what I wanna say. I think both views are more or less correct :D

[MENTION=4771194]slim207rc[/MENTION] If it is rooted, why we can't root the public version of 4.3 with doomlords method or something? NUT just added root and recovery, he has never rooted directly the ROM. How I said it's basically a stock based custom ROM. You don't flash for example CM to get root, that doesn't make sense :D

However. I have a question: For what is the option wireless transfer(I hope I translate it right) in Display settings? Something like Miracast?
[Xperia Z General] meechieballer:
hope tmobile dont play no games and release the update for the xperia z 6606
[Xperia Z General] boomer_jmoore:
Im waiting on the same thing. Don't want to flash a generic rom and lose my wi-fi calling lol
[Xperia Z General] latiyf:
2013 going to end in next hours but still sony didnt update my regions (( MENA Arabic (b) Generic MEA 1270-7937 10.3.1.A.2.67 R5B )) device xperia Z with 4.3

ar u happy sony :eek: are u happy that i will start my year 2014 with old 4.2 virson ???!! :crying::crying::crying::crying:

thanks for all the customer care u giving and now thinking to shift to another device soon ,, not sony 4 sure
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48883040&postcount=370
[Xperia Z General] Jambu95:
then just flash a 4.3 stock rom, that's why you're on xda, for this reason, flash roms and at least make some contribution to everyone, not asite for complaining
[Xperia Z General] coldsweat:
This is what I've never understood about the die-hards who hold out for their exact region/carrier updates in order to preserve some "pure breed" lineage of their phone dynasty. Why on earth would you be here if it wasn't to bypass the restrictions of your carrier?

You don't get to walk into the room that holds the solution to your problem and continue to ***** and moan. lmao :silly:
[Xperia Z General] Djocker:
Now I get update for Generic HK.... :cool:

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z C6603
[Xperia Z General] boomer_jmoore:
This is a question to all the people who have received the 4.3 update. Are your micro SD cards still getting randomly ejected/removed? This is annoying since I have a 64GB card in my phone and use it as my mp3 player. I have yet to receive the update for T-Mobile and wondered about this.
[Xperia Z General] huzi7868:
i had the same problem in my lenovo yoga tab its a problem with sd card i moved to pny sd card not had that problem since
[Xperia Z General] boomer_jmoore:
Yo Huzi would you recommend this then?
[Xperia Z General] huzi7868:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SDU32G10A..._Computing_FlashDrives_SM&hash=item4acbb0aa88

this is what i use
[Xperia Z General] boomer_jmoore:
I definitely need 64gb lol I'm a music head. But I'll get the one I posted above. Thanks for the brand recommendation. I've been using only SanDisk in my Android phones for the past few years.
[Xperia Z General] boomer_jmoore:
My phone randomly just ejects my SanDisk 64GB class 10. Very annoying. I play music in my store from my phone and I play albums that will never be available for stream so it sucks for it to just randomly hear the music abruptly stop. I'm more of a fan of having the music on hand so streaming is not an option for me and I love the Walkman app.
[Xperia Z General] ralphel:
hi guys

may I know if any one using a rooted 4.2.2 device with adaway app?

I know after updating to 4.3 we will lose root

but will the host file be re-build/overwritten as well?

thanks

edit:

oh btw I'm not planning to unlock my bootloader to root

I'm willing to wait for new rooting methods if the host file does get re-build/ overwritten during the 4.3 update
[Xperia Z General] Djocker:
Sony Select not working after update...

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z C6603
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
It works for me.

Sent from my white Xperia™Z
[Xperia Z General] galaxyvn:
Generic UK just get update to 4.3 via PC Companion. :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] huzi7868:
+1 UK
[Xperia Z General] huzi7868:
i cant seem to find move to sd in the app section on 4.3 ?
[Xperia Z General] osama.iq:
Hello xperianz ;) hop u all doing fine ^_^

i have a tiny question :(

c6602 MEA version didn't get the 4.3 and it seems like Sony rolling the update mostly for c6603 handsets in all regions !!! any news about 6602 ?

:highfive: thnx
[Xperia Z General] coolrad007:
hello guys does anybody knows wen is the update for 4.3 in UAE?
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Soon
[Xperia Z General] coolrad007:
can u tell me the date r week?
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
No

Sent from my white Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Release date is 30th February.
[Xperia Z General] Djocker:
Any news for Kit Kat???

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z C6603
[Xperia Z General] yankees45us:
I can't wait for kitkat on xperia. I no longer have mine but my wife still has hers. The cool thing about kitkat would be the better battery life and the ability to use Google wallet tap and pay without being blocked by tmobile. Already tested it on my kitkat rom on my Note 2 and it works perfectly.
[Xperia Z General] coolrad007:
r u joking? there is no 30th February
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yes. I have test version and it is great.

Yes, and on that date is release for your region.
[Xperia Z General] BobKatz:
Please ignore dvd777 he is trying to make fun of you because you’ve asked a bit of a silly question.

Rather than politely pointing out that no one here has any more or less information than you have regarding the release of any type of update, we’re all here waiting just like you.

These pages are for devs to share the files and builds therefore asking when 4.3 for UAE is coming out is just filling the site with SPAM but dvd777 is also not a developer so his responses can also be considered SPAM as they have absolutely no productive use.
[Xperia Z General] coolrad007:
thanx buddy for your messsage
[Xperia Z General] Apithanos:
haha

30 februar dont exists!!! stop trolling hahaha
[Xperia Z General] huzi7868:
stop asking too much about update just wait or else buy another phone
[Xperia Z General] amielDH:
Can you guys that has updated to 4.3 if you can use the volume button as a camera shutter button after the update? Im planning to buy a Z. Thanks!
[Xperia Z General] SmallsXD:
yes
[Xperia Z General] Moesappel:
Anyone in The Netherlands recreived the 4.3 update? I'm still waiting..
[Xperia Z General] pizzabroodje:
I'm still waiting too... generic rom..
[Xperia Z General] Djocker:
Now waiting for Kit Kat... ;)

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z C6603
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
No luck for Poland either.
[Xperia Z General] Moesappel:
I hope we will get 4.3 this week c:

Germany got 4.3 today?
[Xperia Z General] TeeJayEss:
I've updated to this now, but my camera seems stuck at the 16:9 3920 × 2204 resolution - I can't find how to switch it back to the 13MP 4:3 format... anyone else had this? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but after searching, all my searches brought up LOADS, so I couldn't find anything relevant
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Enter camera -> manual mode -> three dots menu -> resolution. And that's it ;)
[Xperia Z General] TeeJayEss:
OMG, so you have to be in manual mode to specify the resolution of your photo?? In Superior Auto you can't?

Wow.
[Xperia Z General] vovik ukr:
nice
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
I guess so... l always use manual mode, so l didn't bother with superior. Now l looked and it is like that. No changing resolution in superior mode. *Sigh...*
[Xperia Z General] NetSkill:
Superior / manual no matter what u use camera is **** in 4.3

Odoslané z Xperia Z pomocou Tapatalku
[Xperia Z General] yan_busaking:
It has not been released in Singapore yet. Hmm... Waiting...
[Xperia Z General] jerryhou85:
It went live in Singapore yesterday and I just updated it.
[Xperia Z General] Mike Austin:
This morning, 4.3 just appeared as a download in the UK. I upgraded, but I find that the drop down menu (Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS etc) does not properly distinguish between off and on. There is hardly any difference in colour. Any work-arounds?
[Xperia Z General] Raider0001:
Just received the 4.3 update - T-Mobile Poland :victory:
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
That's f... mad, the Generic still didn't get one.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Try clean reflash with SUS. It helped me with battery drain.
[Xperia Z General] Mike Austin:
Did you have the same problem, which was cured by SUS reflash?
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yep, I don't have battery drain of 35% over night, anymore.
[Xperia Z General] Mike Austin:
OK, so you did not have the same problem as me (the indistinguishable on/off symbols in the drop-down menu), so I will park that one for the moment.

Regarding overnight power drain, that has happened to me three times in the six months I have had this phone - on different ROMs (but all official downloads). It is quite unpredictable. It seems to be "Android OS" that uses the battery most. I have found that switching off and on cures it - until the next time, which may be a couple of months away.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Try changing the theme through Settings -> Personalisation. That changes the accent colours and may force the toggles to show up properly.

If not, a reflash of the rom may be necessary. You can do this with Flashtool with no loss of data.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yes, android OS is most powerful consumer. How did you switch it off?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I think he meant he switched the phone off....
[Xperia Z General] Mike Austin:
Yes, I think I did as well;) I don't think it would be possible to switch off Android OS.

---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:07 AM ----------

Bingo! It seems they have changed the themes a bit. I had "Vintage" (to suit my age), but have now switched to "Xperia".
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
oh, that's it :) I meant if there is some process that drains battery, connected to Android OS. I know that you cannot switch of OS :D
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
So it's an app. Or a process or Stamina Mode Bug.

I still didn't receive 4.3 but I have Z for 11 months and that drain never happened to me.
[Xperia Z General] krmiwad93:
4.3 for region MENA Arabic?

Does anyone know when 4.3 comes out for Xperia Z, region MENA Arabic?

Thank you!
[Xperia Z General] DaRk MaDnEsS:
nope not yet

http://scavenger.ch/sonyupdate/?model=C6602&custId=1270-7937

watch this if the frimware become 569 then 4.3 is released for arab
[Xperia Z General] Sayha:
i never select sony. 4.3 update has not come yet. i trusted sony but sony didnt answer e-mails. Never Sony !
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Then instead of griping here, flash one of the many generic 569 FTFs that are available here.

If you don't want to do that, why are you even a member of a community devoted to modifying your phone?
[Xperia Z General] Sayha:
i bought my phone one week ago. Warranty has not expired yet
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Then I suggest you return it.

Firstly you could easily have checked if 4.3 was released before purchasing it and secondly, if you're complaining after a week then you'll be raging when Sony sometimes take 6 weeks after initial release to update some regions.

Finally, FYI, flashing a generic firmware will not affect your warranty, but you would know that if you looked around here before posting complaining about something that nobody here has any control over.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
It's not even hard to flash a generic firmware. Simply download any generic firmware for.569, and use the guide on flashing .ftf's thread to do it.

THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS YOUR FRIEND. Here, hardly anyone ever waits for the 'official' update. The tools used are so easy to use.
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
I just don't like smaller RAM.

Now I have frequent homescreen redraws after heavy browsing.

Embarassing.

Other than that it's a joy to use.

Ah and those black screens on Chrome but once you navigate it goes away.
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
No redraws here. All fine.

Maybe it helps if you keep xperia home in memory with "app settings"? With 4.2.2 it helped me but now with 4.3 I do not need it.

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[Xperia Z General] doministry:
On 4.2.2 Z had like 800 - 900Mb free RAM.

Now it's max 550MB, so it is an answer.

I hate when Sony does it with every phone.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Why do you think that you need nearly 50% of your device's total RAM to be free and therefore wasted? The more frequently used apps loaded into RAM, the better. 550MB free is more than enough for the proper operation of your device.

If you're getting regular launcher redraws, then something is wrong that is nothing to do with how Sony have set the memory management in 4.3, as I have never had a launcher redraw on this device on any firmware version. Maybe an app with a memory leak?
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
Yeah, but I had really much redraws with 4.2.2 and if your information is correctly(800-900MB), why I had redraws? :S

770MB now like you see on the picture(I do not use the booster, just downloaded it now to see how much RAM I have left). Maybe it helps if you flash the firmware again or deleting bloatware?

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[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Absolutely not. You need RAM to operate.

The more free you have the better - you need resources.

That is a myth that you don't need more RAM to operate.

Maybe you just don't use the phone that heavily.

Heavy browsing and multitasking is heavy...

On 4.2.2 redraws were occasional, rare. Now with the new OS

they are much more frequent. It's because of RAM.

The usage I perform is identical.

No unknown apps.

I observe it on EVERY Sony phone to date.

Once they make a cruical update RAM goes down, device is more and more smooth (like now, it works like charm) but smaller RAM occasionally redraws the homescreen. Especially with heavy browsing with Chrome.

Maybe Chrome itself is problematic? I can say Opera is, I quit using it for now.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
A Linux based system never, ever needs 50% of total available RAM to be free. Especially on newer devices such as ours that have large amounts of available RAM to begin with. What is the point of having these resources available if they're not going to be used?

The 25% you have free now is more than enough for new apps to be loaded into RAM without an older unused cached process being cleared.
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
I get your point of course. But my experience says the opposite, totally opposite.

This amount of free RAM is not enough OR some apps are badly written. Chrome? As I said I had the same with Xperia S for instance. Maybe it's Sony's fault.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
But what do you want that free ram for? To enable new apps that you open to load without having to kill something else?

Great, but once that happens, it isn't free any more and you're under the magic number of free ram that you want to see, which will mean that a cached process would have to be killed to increase the amount of free ram.

If you're a heavy multitasker, you want the apps you're using to remain in ram, not be constantly killed to maintain a meaningless number. :D
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Still I know what you mean but obviously that doesn't work this way.

Maybe it should but it never does.

And what you say means I could have 20MB left and that would bw fine but that's nonsense.

I want RAM to operate NEW heavy processes. 400 MB is too little.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
You still don't get it. To maintain a high amount of free ram, cached processes would have to be regularly killed.

Why not keep as many cached processes as possible until they need to be killed for a new one? That would actually help with multitasking.

Your need see a high amount of free ram would actually cause more launcher redraws/slow start up of apps as processes are more likely to be kicked out of ram to maintain a meaningless number in lieu of a possible need for ram for an app that may or may not be opened in future.

Go and read up on Linux/Android ram management and you will see that what I'm telling you is correct. :)
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Than I see you don't get it.

The truth is that 4.3 probably eats much more RAM than previous 4.2.2.

Or Sony customization is actually heavy, I don't know.

In the previous FW there were no slow starts neither redraws, now THEY ARE.

So it speaks for itself.

And of course you're right, that's why I say - Z has a bit too little RAM to behave like you desribe it PLUS

have a good margin to operate all the multitasking and heavy browsing.

It happens anyway after Chrome heavy usage, and not always.

Other than that phone is almost silky smooth so I like it in most of the occasions.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Like I already said, I never had a launcher redraw ever since I had the phone on 4.1.

I actually am what you would call a heavy user as well, with usually 500-650MB of free RAM available when I actually bother to look if I'm in the app manager for another reason.

You need to start looking at the apps you have installed for memory leaks, as previously installed apps may not behave properly under 4.3.
[Xperia Z General] Okluzhion:
I don't know how you're getting these withdraws, but I'm not experiencing that. Using Nova Launcher as a home replacement, heavily multitasking (switching from games to skype, browser, small apps, etc.) with about 440MB RAM available. I really don't understand why you're having these problems.

Sent from my eXposed C6603
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Chrome. Mainly. After heavy browising. Once a day maybe twice.

As I say, It's on EVERY Sony phone.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Every Sony phone, except mine and above posters phone, it seems. :D
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
It's about the way you use it, 100%.

And I meant on every Sony/SonyEricsson phone I've used so far, and there have been many of them.