yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Who deleted the carbon Rom column? Cmon why mess things up?
[General Topics] zerosys:
Thats why you cant let access everyone to such a great idea, there are always people who dont care...

Do you have a backup?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Yes I have a backup and there's also a roll back option. That's the main reason it's open anyways. It's back again but with wrong values, will check it later.

Thing is, if I do it alone everyone is complaining it's wrong and outdated but letting others do it results in complaining things are changed or missing. Either way I'm the one to blame at the end :(
[General Topics] zerosys:
Yes thats the problem, i would let others have access too, like you said if you do it alone it would be a lot of work...

But nobody hat the idea to do this before, so in my opinion you did the right thing, if other people mess it up its their fault.

Thumbs up to you!
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Right now it looks like following.

Someone messed up the order of items, especially the date and version of the ROMs. This mess wasn't what I had in mind and I'm not happy about it.

Either someone fixes that until tomorrow or I will take public access back and only allow usera to edit after they asked me for allowance via PM so I have a better overview who changes what. Sorry it had to come this way, it would be really sad if this thing would turn out so badly.
[General Topics] zerosys:
I guess noone will fix this... sad but its like that. I would do it but i am hounest, i would mess up more then help.

But controlled access via PM is a good idea i think. Probably only people who really wanna help would ask for access.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Database is locked to public editing until I bring things back to normal. If someone wants permissions, contact me via PM
[General Topics] SecUpwN:
Why not let 3 or 4 people you know well edit or at least review the stuff before showing it off to the screaming crowd?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Because I never planned to go to broad public with the database. It was only planned to support my video reviews so I won´t have to mention all features and keep the reviews shorter but still informative and for that the status of the database was good enough for me but like it seems it´s nowhere near being good enough for the xda users. I only posted it here because someone asked me to and I thought why not.

Didn´t know people would see it so serious that it isn´t upto date and not complete with all ROMs, it would have otherwise slowly grown review after review.

I don´t know any people who would wanna participate so I´m on my own.

I am sure some people wanna help out since some changes already were made. I hope those users will contact me via pm. I don´t wanna go public anymore since I can´t keep track of who changes what.
[General Topics] nexus7lte:
This is some fantastic work! Thanks for the data. I cant help but wish there was another column just for Xposed Framework mods because I would love to see how many of these ROMs have features that canNOT be found by just adding another module to xposed. I loved a lot of these ROMs in the past but for now im just keeping it stock rooted with plenty of xposed modules until things get better.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
good idea, i think this can be arranged...soon
[General Topics] Hung0702:
I'm glad one clause of one sentence had such a profound effect on you! I've always prided myself on insulting people as indirectly and succinctly as possible. Good thing no one else uses TabUI. Would be a shame to expose people to a UI layout they likely know little about and could benefit from.

I hope your pedestal continues to be truly comfortable!
[General Topics] zerosys:
Maybe you can also add the swipe function ins the notification drop down menu, i dont know how this is called. A lot of roms dont have this, i mean swiping to the right in the notification menu opens quick settings panel menu... me personally dont use roms which removed that.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
You are right that's a rare seen feature but that is no option afaik, either it's there or not. I can take that in as well, no problem. Which roms do still use that, only know of pac just coming in mind
[General Topics] zerosys:
Carbon rom uses it, ProBam uses it too (i used probam a long time, maybe i can make a whole column for it if you want...),

i can test it on revolt, aokp and temasek cm and a couple other soon..
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Awesome, cool

Will make the announcement with all the rules in about 4 hours
[General Topics] zerosys:
Ok i flashed a couple of roms now.

First the roms which do use that feature:

Slim Bean, Liquid Smooth, ProBAM, Carbon, PAC-man and a pretty cool rom called Schizo, but its a german rom so i guess its not relevant...

Roms which dont use it:

AOKP,Revolt,Paranoid Android and i dont tested it but i am pretty sure that CyanogenMod dont use it.

In each cased i flashed newest Version of rom, either Nightly, Weekly or last release.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Wow, great effort, thx.
[General Topics] zerosys:
Also i noticed Carbon rom has Notification Shortcuts ans Notification Behavior, in your database it says no. Breathing SMS can be activated in SMS Settings, your database says no...

And i have to thank you, sry for the offtopic but because of a review about RevoltROM on your TheDroidEffect website in which you said "before revolt rom i used carbon", i tested carbon rom and its great. Till yesterday i used ProBAM rom which was very great but after new update i had immense problems so i needed a new rom and it seems that i found it in Carbon.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Glad I could help. Don't take the database on carbon as right. Back when I tested it it was an early 4.3 build and had lots of stuff still missing.

A lot of stuff has to be updated.

Would be great if there would be a maintainer for every Rom, highly unlikely though
[General Topics] nimrodity:
to all users who want to participate on maintaining and contributing to the database please read Update 3 in the OP
[General Topics] nimrodity:
added that entry, don't know the name either, I am just calling it "swiping notification/quick settings" for now
[General Topics] zerosys:
Awesome.. currently i am using Carbon and it seem like i will use it for a while, if you want i can take the carbon part in the database
[General Topics] nimrodity:
awesome, would be nice. Already have maintainers for pacman and PA now. Also did some additions to the database like a update history and a list of maintainers.

If you want to participate just follow the steps in Update 3 in OP, thanks.

THANKS to everyone contributing, this will make things so much better for everyone :good::good::good:
[General Topics] lordbalmon:
Hi,

I can help you keep up the database. I posses a SGS2 I9100 and mostly run SlimBean. I can help you keep it up to date with that if you require any help. And on another note, thank you for this helpful treat.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
please follow the steps in update 3 in the OP to get permissions
[General Topics] dacorsa:
thanks for all u do...this post is beautiful!!!!!!!
[General Topics] drinfernoo:
This is fantastic, especially for people new to the custom ROM scene. Another thing that would be cool to add would be examples of features. This could be a quick .gif or screenshot of specific features, so that people could see what a feature is if they've never heard of it.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
already on the to-do list just not sure how to integrate the screenshots. But I made at least one video showing off a few features, it´s the feature explained vide.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
The team and I made some nice progress again today...
[General Topics] jrudyk:
How about you add a row for a link to an imgur or Flickr gallery?

Sent from my extra-Carbonated Nexus 4 on XDA Premium 4 mobile. Updates are the best thing in the world.
[General Topics] Px80:
Nice idea! Would like that too.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
The extra row for links is not the problem, I would just preferred a directly visible method but I don't see any better solution either so something like that will have to do it.

So it will be like this, first there will be quick explanations in form of notes on the features and then screenshots could follow but of course this will come later since it takes more time to do all that but it's definitely on the to do list
[General Topics] nimrodity:
UPDATE

-"Using Xposed Framework" added to ROM list due to demand, not completey filled out yet

-a lot of additional groundwork(changes) have been done

-added quick explanation notes to features (not finished yet)

-added explanatory screenshots on to-do list due to demand
[General Topics] drinfernoo:
I was thinking just links on the name of the feature. Either to a video demonstration or a screenshot.

Also, I have no idea how it would be implemented, but device-specific lists would be awesome too.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Update

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- added list of features to OP

- a lot of big and important changes/additions were made today (rearranging the layout, color coding, added new features, explanations for all features etc.) - thx to [MENTION=5001111]vedantgp[/MENTION]
[General Topics] louisjms:
This is being worked on. If you have a look on the gallery sheet, you will find a list of screens from different ROMs. It is being worked on and any screenshots please could be e-mailed to me (e-mail on profile)

Thanks :)
[General Topics] denfokas:
Sad that such table didn't exist when I searched custom ROM for my nexus one. Spent lot of time. Thx for the table
[General Topics] KnightTim:
I can't open this at work... is there anyway that you could host this with something else? (also I get an error when I try to open it on my phone)
[General Topics] torxed:
As per usual any comparisons or detailed information about a rom rarely contains the following information:

* Default apps installed (Is Exchange support installed (and if so, is the SERVICE also uninstalled))

* NFC capabilities (have the driver been modified AND more importantly which driver is used broadcom or mifare compliant chipset)

* WiFi capabilities (again, is the modified driver in use?)
[General Topics] nimrodity:
- not enough demand for the neccessary effort

- that´s more device specific not every device even has yet NFC, we can´t tell how it behaves on every device

- same as above
[General Topics] mtuckman:
Can anyone get into the database? It either times out or gives me an error that too many requests have been made.

View attachment 2342849
[General Topics] nimrodity:
wow, didn´t know something like this could happen. You are right,can´t access it either. Hope it´s just temporary and nothing happened to it. Looks like i have to do regular backups just in case.
[General Topics] skirmisher:
The dreaded Lifehacker effect
[General Topics] drinfernoo:
Same here.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
yeah sorry, seems to be too much access to it, I can´t access it either, only once but then it kicked me off.Hope it will improve tomorrow
[General Topics] svetinha:
same here...
[General Topics] nimrodity:
I already contacted Google, let´s wait and see. if the database is screwed or dead we have a problem.

My last backup is from 18th anbd since then practically everything was hugely changed and improved. I am not sure if I can/want recover all that again since it was a ****load of work of the whole team.

So let´s just hope for the best
[General Topics] jrudyk:
Well, if something goes wrong, your in luck. (not saying that it going wrong is a good thing or anything). I have a backup from the 22nd (today). So if something is broken, I can restore it!

Sent from my extra-Carbonated Nexus 4 on XDA Premium 4 mobile. Updates are the best thing in the world.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Thanks for but I got the change 2h ago to make a backup already.If this keeps happening I think I'll have to think of a more reliable solution to host this for public and still giving us the chance to maintain it in the cloud. Can't believe so many people visit the database but at least better than no one at all ;)
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Oh now I finally get what that is supposed to mean. Didn't even know the site before and just saw the article on G+. That explains it of course. More than 22.000 views already is definitely not that bad. The initial article on my of it didn't even reach 10% of that
[General Topics] chreddy:
I had lots of problems yesterday loading this document as well. Seems like it works now though. At least for me :)
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
you should give access to a picture snapshot of the table, so that guys interested by the content but not editable version can get access.

that would decrease the load on gdocs
[General Topics] nimrodity:
A picture doesn't work since the database has a lot of notes you have to hover over to get additional info also you have to scroll to see the whole thing, a picture just isn't enough.
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
ok,

i just found the thread due to a famous french blogger Korben who linked the doc too, based on the initial post.

so file is down currently..
[General Topics] nimrodity:
I will post a mirror in a few hours when I get the time. And also working to find a more reliable method. This happened due to ding featured on life hacker what caused this crazy high load. This was just totally unexpected
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
the dark side of the glory ^^
[General Topics] nimrodity:
I have a backup but I can´t even make a backup mirror of it due to the server load but you will get one as soon as possible. Is there a good export fromat I could use, then I could offer you the file to download uopdated once a day maybe as excel file xlsx?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Ok, here a 3 mirrors, I hope this works for now. This version is about 11h old but should be fine since we couldn´t really update because of the high load ourself.

Please get back to me if that works...

ok forget that, no chance right now
[General Topics] jrudyk:
Just tried it, tells me I need permission. Sent a request as it told me too.

Sent from my extra-Carbonated Nexus 4 on XDA Premium 4 mobile. Updates are the best thing in the world.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
ok, wanted to ask you if you asked for those. Sorry this try doesn´t work since the server isn´t even able to allow me change permissions, I can access it but other than that everything keeps crashing the server. I have to remove those

PLEASE don´t ask for permissions anymore. Would be nice if this chaos would stop.

If anyone knows a viable solution I am all up for it :crying:

Jeremy, please delete your mirror links, people are getting crazy asking for permission
[General Topics] Juice3250:
You really need to add Liquid Smooth onto this.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
if I find a maintainer for sure, I will review it soon and put it on but if I don´t find a maintainer for it I can´t promise for it to be always up to date.

Also I would have to get finally onto the database myself. Have a lot of stuff to fo like include screenshots and such stuff
[General Topics] Vihru:
i cant open it... too many request.. so where i can find it?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
desperately working on it,hope i get some mirrors on soon...
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Mirror 2

ok guys, try it and hope for the best, it´s a backup of yesterday but there where no real updates anyway. It´s just a temporary solution even if it works but so far, try your luck and tell me if you can get on it. No edit permissions here.
[General Topics] chreddy:
Seems like I was lucky earlier. About 10 minutes after I made my previous post, it didn't work again.

This new mirror works fine here :)
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
i got access too on this one :)

mokee rom is has missing, if you find somebody to add it, it's a nice piece of software
[General Topics] nimrodity:
we will slowly start adding more and more ROMs but before that we still have to improve some basic in layout and add things like a screenshot gallery for the ROM.

I am also planning on doing Screenshots and even videos to explain/show off certain features, what do you guys think, any interest for that ?
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
of course, and i totally agree with you,

this kind of project nearly deserves its own website..^^

i would have there also a selector to tell i own this device, i want this and this feature, then you send to the topic :)
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Sorry can you be a bit more specific, didn't really understand that post correctly
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
sorry,

i was saying that i agree on the fact that you need to enhance to way to share the information.

And i was thinking that you should set-up a website, instead of having this info hidden in an xda topic.

and one of the feature of this website would allow the visitor to select his phone, then click the features he is interested (with explanation/videos)

and the website could recommend some roms, and even give a link of the appropriate topic or rom website

sounds clearer?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
Oh yeah now I got it. Only a few hurdles for that.

First I have no knowledge of creating a website and how to setup such a database there. And even if that would work I have no clue how such a selection based recommendation could be made, same goes for intelligently including those explanation screens/videos.

If someone here offers his help for such a thing I'm open for it but as I said I definitely couldn't ever pull off something like that.

I'm also not sure if it would be viable enough to host such a site for the long term. Yes the demands have been so high the last too days even crashing the server thx to Lifehacker but I don't know if this trend will hold on. But it's still way to early for anything to decide, at least I'll keep it in mind because the idea sounds really interesting
[General Topics] BENETNATH:
ok, i'll follow that also ;)

and i think this tendency will continue, as there is each month a new candidate for the best new rom (sadly, few bring real new features)

for the device i work on, i've already done 7-8 different roms and we had to set-up a matrix with the info needed by the users.. (check it http://goo.gl/buJnFI)
[General Topics] nimrodity:
To everyone.

Do not, i repeat, do not send me a mail asking for permission.

I just got 200+ mails of people asking for it. Im not at my pc and cant give anybody permission and even if i wouldn't. I don't know what happened to public access but as soon as i get up i will give you public access again.

No mails, ever, please
[General Topics] Roastmeat:
Why not include 2 benchmark tests for each?
[General Topics] nimrodity:
2 reasons

1. A benchmark for one device doesn't make much sense, those ROMs are available for a lot of devices and we don't have all the same, so it would just cause confusion mixing benchmarks of different devices.

2. Personally I don't think benchmark have anything to say about real life perfomance. My One X delivers good results if you want to but in real life it's total crap just for example. And Nexus devices are known for lower scrores than other OEMs phones and it's still able to hold up pretty good if not better.
[General Topics] steviemch:
Nice to see the amount of ROM's on the database since it first started.

The Rom features panel on the far left needs to stay static, if I scroll to the right to compare ROM's (e.g Vanir at the very end) I can't see what features I'm actually comparing, just a bunch of ticks and crosses.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
then you are most probably viewing on a mobile device. On a desktop the feature list is static. I can´t change anything here on mobile devices, that´s not up to me.

The feature and ROM list are static, wouldn´t make much sense otherwise, i know.

BTW, Vanir is incomplete, I will try to fill in the blanks since I am reviewing it anyways right now
[General Topics] steviemch:
No, I'm actually viewing on my laptop. The ROM list is indeed static but the feature list isn't (for me at least). The feature list scrolls out of sight when scrolling right.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
just double checked it, it´s static for me. Not sure why yours isn´t.

Also for all my maintainers, no one else mentioned such an issue before
[General Topics] steviemch:
Ah I know what's happened.

When I first opened the database I had a message saying I was viewing in "simple mode" (or words to that effect) because there was a high amount of traffic on the page.

I just shut it down and opened it up again, I seem to be viewing the regular page now and the feature list is now, indeed, static.

Sorry about that!
[General Topics] nimrodity:
I checked the poll and some of you want more informations, could you please give some suggestions what you wanna see.

What won´t come are benchmarks for several reasons. Otherwise I´m open for suggestions
[General Topics] bdr9:
CyanogenMod can take screenshots, activate Airplane Mode and change volume states from the power menu.
[General Topics] nimrodity:
sorry but I have to blow off some steam.

Can't anyone see the big red text that says to follow the steps in this thread to get editing permissions?

I get half dozen requests every day but whenever I tell them to check the thread nothing happens.

I got about 30-40 requests at least but since the first 2 days gave passed no new maintainera had come up.

Either those people never wanted to maintain in the first place and don't even know what to do with the permissions or I don't know.

Maybe they aren't XDA members but even if that's no real hurdle.

Anyways, would have been nice to get some more real maintainer because of my current 11 maintainer only a handful still maintain.

So please don't complain about rare or slow updates or start wondering if the database gets abandoned or closed.

Initially it was planned as a tool to support my reviews but it's way too big to contain it with a handful of people by now.

It's not like the demand seems to be low, because the limit of user at one time is always full and the database down a lot because of that.

OK enough complaining, hope a few people helping to maintain show up, if not, then not :silly:
[General Topics] lkjsoiuew:
Why do I need a google account to see the table?
[General Topics] wognwarren:
Because it's made on Google spreadsheet.
[General Topics] drinfernoo:
If you have an Android phone, and not a Google account, you're missing out. That goes double if you flash, or are thinking about flashing, custom ROMs.
[General Topics] lkjsoiuew:
It's the foremost purpose of flashing custom roms to get as far away from google as possible.
[General Topics] lkjsoiuew:
how about adding "type=view" to the link?
[General Topics] armydog13:
Are you kidding? Please clarify. You're saying that is the foremost purpose for YOU, right? Because that certainly isn't the reason for everyone, and certainly not the majority of people who flash custom ROMs.
[General Topics] drinfernoo:
I couldn't think of anything further from the truth. Custom ROMs automatically get you closer to Google's vision, simply because they are AOSP-based, and not TW, Blur, Sense, etc...

I honestly couldn't imagine the point of a lot of things on my phone without a Google account. YouTube, Keep, Gmail, Google Now, Drive, and many, many others, including third-party games and apps, take advantage of your Google account to sync settings, account information, emails, notes, saved games, etc... Even just Android. It will automatically sync your contacts and apps from Google's servers to your phone after a clean flash, typical of most custom ROM installs. The Play Store requires a Google account. Android Device Manager needs it too.

I think you've been misled by whatever you've read, since Google accounts are incredibly widespread and amazingly useful. That's not to mention the sheer ease of use and possibilities that are opened up by linking one with your Android device.
[General Topics] lkjsoiuew:
Please don't care so much about me. I will not convert to the Gooooogle religion.

You guys, despite being entitled "Senior" here, are obviously much too young for even having heard of Orwell or Huxley. Of course you don't care. It's your dearest toy. :laugh: