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[Nexus 4 General] spezi77:
For me it was also SOD. I never had it on kk. However, some people believe that SOD comes from a defect battery and that SOD is more likely to occur on lp than on kk.

Sent from my nexus™4 ?
[Nexus 4 General] baraks:
i've never had the sod on lp.... but my n4 is heating quite fast on lp.... and the battery life is not the greatest...

i think that i will revert to kk today at least until android M will be released....

any recommendations for custom rom? or should i flash stock?
[Nexus 4 General] spezi77:
Slimkat definitely.

Sent from my nexus™4 ?
[Nexus 4 General] baraks:
why not stock rom with custom kernel (e.g. franco/faux123) ?
[Nexus 4 General] spezi77:
Sounds also nice. You asked for custom rom in the first place.. :D

Sent from my nexus™4 ?
[Nexus 4 General] chudek:
Information about weeks for available update means OTA or Factory Images?
[Nexus 4 General] 4NDR345:
Both
[Nexus 4 General] yoto111:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/3...-aosp-now-nexus-5-factory-images-later-today/

F**k this sh*t
[Nexus 4 General] yellman:
Me hope that OTA, finall official release. Factory Images first in process, so it means sooner than OTA for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
Last year Google started releasing factory images and source on AOSP the day the Nexus 4 was released. I don't think we'll be waiting too long. I can see people who use OTAs needing to wait a couple of weeks though.
[Nexus 4 General] sacramento458:
Hey guys quick question my n4 is rooted and running cm10.1.3. I never bothered to upgrade to 4.3 some my radio and kernel are stock 4.2.2. Is it better to get the ota update and be up on things or flash stock kernel and radio whenever there pull from factory image 4.4?
[Nexus 4 General] yellman:
Bad news,...ok I have to shut my mouth again..for a few weeks....damn it
[Nexus 4 General] max4wdc:
wtf ?!

i posted replay :

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/android-building/JVLaFRoJxFk
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
Nexus 4 won't get updates in 6 months...

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/...exus-will-not-be-upgraded-android-4-4-kit-kat
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
This is how it's always been historically. I really hope we get an N4 factory image today!! I want that new hangouts apk so I can start getting free VOIP :)
[Nexus 4 General] thejordan:
false.
[Nexus 4 General] max4wdc:
7 months left for updates and maybe i'm Good BYE to GOOGLE product !>
[Nexus 4 General] ceejay83:
how? i've never heard of that 18 month update window, but the verge confirmed it with google...
[Nexus 4 General] AntiBillOS:
Does Google realy can kidd Nexus 4 users with update of Android 4.4? If they do this fuc-kin thing the best way for people be buying iOS/WP device!

I undestend that even galaxy nexus get Android 4.4 custom build from source, but if google kidd people - it begin sucks!
[Nexus 4 General] SetPT:
If it takes a few weeks to release factory image, part of the sense of having a Nexus dies with 4.4.

Where is the "day one updates"?

Shame on you google...
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
We should trust devs much more than google.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
but that was when the Nexus 4 was the new flagship for Google. Nexus 5 is the new phone in town, and they will have priority for it :(
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
Is anyone else using Auto Refresh Plus on about a 5 minute cycle for the Google Developers page? :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] snapdesign:
after one week of researching...too many hours of waiting and reading rumors about kit kat...i'm dissapointed...i didn't buy nexus 4 to wait „a few weeks“ for updates...i don't like whats happening to google...f**k nexus 5...i like my mako and i want my 4.4 update:mad:
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
I honestly don't understand people being surprised hearing google only updates devices for 18 months....My NS got 4.1.1 as its final factory image late last year, and it's a year older than the GN....the N1's final update was a year prior to that, as well. Why would this be any different? Honestly, if you're upset your nexus is only updated for 18 months I don't recommend buying any manufacturer flagships or mid/low-end devices, for that matter. You're lucky if you get 12 months of updates from a galaxy s device!! My Xperia X10 got less than a year's updates! This is how the android ecosystem works. Be glad you all have discovered XDA developers, because you'll get an extra year's updates at minimum thanks to the great hard working devs in our community.

If you don't like how it works you know what your option is, but I STRONGLY recommend against that ;)
[Nexus 4 General] THE_KINGDOM:
NEXUS devices are in a different category all together. They are SUPPOSED to get updates rolled out directly from Google right away.

My guess is that it will roll out OTA within 24-48h
[Nexus 4 General] NissanskylineN1:
The nexus 4 was on sale until 2 months ago. I expect it to be up to date 18 months from the date it sold out forever.
[Nexus 4 General] ssvijay:
Well i guess people here have already started thinking about the alternative options ....

But hey I do understand your view on how the Android ECO system works but isnt it just against the fragmentation issue that 4.4 was supposed to resolve

Stopping a support because your hardware doesnt support it is one reason but lets look at Nexus as a Developer device and not a consumer device. I know i can go ahead and use the SDK and emulator to test my Apps but the sole purpose of updating my apps to latest version will be lost if Google expects me to get a device every 18 months to stay ahead in the race.
[Nexus 4 General] killman2659:
The N4 is my first Nexus device and i can honestly say, i am very disappointed. Google could have waited until everything was ready for the 4/7/10 but instead they say available soon. Basically they are hoping a lot of people will just jump to the 5 to get 4.4 right away. What happened to instant updates?!?!
[Nexus 4 General] R4INS:
Could care less about the OTA and factory image. Are they giving us everything we need in terms of source code to get the Dev work started? I got the Gnex/N4 for the custom ROM support and Dev community.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
I don't remember about 4.2 factory images, but Galaxy Nexus (takju) got OTA on the 13th of November -> the day when Nexus 4 was released.

PS. International Galaxy S2 (i9100) was relased in may 2011, got JB 4.1.2 in January 2013. 20 months of samsung's support doesn't sound that bad as for non-nexus device.
[Nexus 4 General] jokkir:
Not necessarily. Nexus device updates are handled by Google directly and that usually means as fast as possible updates but not necessarily day one updates. You don't like it? Get a Galaxy device and wait for years/months for an update. And that's only if you're lucky.

So stop being so entitled and just wait.
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/kitkat-release

https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako-kernel/+/kitkat-release

This are the sources???
[Nexus 4 General] Acuity:
Last year the Samsung Galaxy Nexus got the 4.2 factory image exactly 7 days after the Nexus 4 was released. I think we'll be waiting a bit. :p
[Nexus 4 General] eiriklf:
So HTC are promising update for the One GPe within two weeks, I think it's not unreasonable to expect that the N4 should have the update before that.

Hoping to get some actual info soon, right now it's anywhere from tonight to in two weeks time.

:( Seems like a reasonable theory, 4.3 seemed to have been ready for a long time when it was released, so it might be optimistic to expect a similarly quick rollout,
[Nexus 4 General] MrKaupo:
Not true, they don't care nexus5 sales, in fact they will be sold out in few hours today or 10/11.The problem they didn't have time for coding... This is the reason.
[Nexus 4 General] mbwelch:
Here's the thing -- the Nexus 4 WILL BE the first phone updated to 4.4. Just because its update isn't ready the day the Nexus 5 goes on sale doesn't mean anything. Nexus devices will always be the first updated. No matter what device you switch to, it will not get updates any faster than a Nexus, if it gets updates at all.
[Nexus 4 General] bttfpromo:
Is it done uploading, googlesource.com says this
[Nexus 4 General] runderekrun:
Says who?
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
Look guys. Don't fret. It's mostly just that idea of the magical *update* in your mind. It's really not that bigga deal. I learned a hard lesson as this was my first phone I could a get REAL OTA on. Coming from 4.2 > 4.3. Turned out the differences were minimal in the end. And looking at this new version I really don't see anything that makes me wanna throw out all my mods and hard work I've done to set this phone up like I like it to run out and start flashing like a guy in a trench coat... Sure there's a couple things but in the end it's hardly anything I can not accomplish with an Exposed module or a mod or custom ROM. So don't worry. It's gonna be OK. Your much more concerned about the chase than the final prize. In the end without new hardware to support it it's not much to look at. Let's enjoy what we have and be patient. I learned that after I had to completely reset my entire phone after I got in a rush and botched the flashing of 4.3 also half my apps weren't set up to support it and it was a MESS! ....just saying. Enjoy! :beer:
[Nexus 4 General] AntiBillOS:
One fail is there! Google kidd Nexus S users because they can easy update it to 4.2, but not do this. Even not update to 4.1.2! Also now they want kidd Galaxy Nexus (not so bad coz its old) and Nexus 7 (2012) (be verry stupid thing!
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Oh calm down and stop being so dramatic. It has not.. When you get 4.4 you will be one of the 5% in the world running the newest operating system

Where did this "day one update" thing come from anyway? It's PROMPT updates.. Two weeks (or less) after a flagship phone drops is pretty prompt..
[Nexus 4 General] MrKaupo:
People can go crazy if s4/HTC one stock versions get 4.4 before nexus4, I doubt it will happen.
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-4.4_r1
[Nexus 4 General] SetPT:
The question is, when will devs have everything they need to build a 4.4 costum rom for mako?
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
You've been misinformed!! Yes, they come from Google, and yes, they come to the flagship device immediately....but Nexus 4 is no longer a flagship device. We've been pushed to the back burner by Nexus 5....don't like that? Buy a Nexus 5. That's exactly what Google wants you to do ;)

So it's Google's fault you bought a year old device? Maybe you should have pulled the trigger faster or waited patiently for THIS YEAR'S model. This wouldn't be an issue then.

I'm sorry, but you're being far too dramatic about this. Two weeks' wait is not fragmentation lol My sister's mid range LG is still on 4.1.1.....THAT is fragmentation. And google intends to solve that by building firmware capable of running on devices with 512mb ram and below. That means in theory her low end LG device could have 4.4....granted, LG wouldn't ever think about updating a low end device to the newest firmware, but that isn't google's fault, and that's the whole point. Old devices running old firmware will now only be the fault of those in control of the individual devices themselves....the manufacturer. You can't blame Google anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] ckret:
the binaries for 4.4 will be missing and we wont have full gapps without them being extracted off the n5 images
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Some Google Rants.

1. Gnex support? still capable hardware, and since 4.4 was focused on low hardware requirements, why not through in the Nexus S too?

2. Factory images? They haven't even uploaded the Nexus 5 images, and I know compiling and uploading takes a while but sheesh...

3. Nexus 4 missing out on a lot? C'mon at least the transparent UI features? (I know this isn't a confirmed loss but still..)

4. No HDR+ Support. Good ol'Apple approach. dead simple features exclusive to the latest stuff..

5. OTA will take weeks to roll out, heck I don't even think 4.3 has finished rolling out yet...
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
So without binaries for the N4, we're ****ed, basically...

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] AntiBillOS:
I have but my PC is verry slow and also he havo no see new proprietaries (vendor/lge/mako) for 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Is KitKat such a drastic change that the older binaries may not work?
[Nexus 4 General] NissanskylineN1:
Doesn't matter. Google asked for an amount, and I fulfilled it.
[Nexus 4 General] R4INS:
Non nexus devices have been kept alive and up to date with the old binaries. So we aren't boned. Sometimes it causes complications with the old ones and requires some hacking. Sometimes performance takes a hit too. But they can be swapped out and built again when the newest ones drop.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
yeah...the entire system is built for devices with limited ram and other hardware resources. My guess is it's as big of a change as 4.0-4.1, and 4.1-4.2
[Nexus 4 General] jokkir:
Yeap. And in this case, we don't even have to worry much because the 4.4 update will come out in no time.
[Nexus 4 General] ssvijay:
Sorry sir, i think you got me wrong, i was referring to support dropped for GN.

As an app developer I am sure I can manage to update my app with the new sdk and try it out in Emulator but still I am forced to get a *Developer*device every alternate year

I was not majorly concerned about Nexus 4 Update.

I owned a GN and i was waiting for a week to get the update , so i know this isn't something new.
[Nexus 4 General] badboy47:
meanwhile from KitKat: KitKat, also known as Android 4.4, will reportedly include support for low-end devices that don’t have fast processors or a wealth of system memory, Typically, low-end Android phone makers have used older versions of the operating system to deal with hardware constraints, which has led to significant fragmentation among Android devices.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
but by looking at older devices, as some have mentioned, older binaries are able to work? like my old myTouch 4G has 4.3 and can still run it
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
the binaries are hacked to oblivion in those cases. imo, there's not much point in attempting this since we know for a fact our update will probably come before, if not shortly after, 4.3 binaries are hacked to run on 4.4. i personally would be pretty pissed off if I did all that work for something that only was necessary for a week because the official binaries get released....or imagine if you're 95% done and the binaries are released??? talk about nerd rage lol ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
HTC have started that the GPe One will get 4.4 in 15 days, I doubt they'll beat Google
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
There is a first time for everything ;)

But yeah, I agree. Google will release it before the GPe One. The Sense version will get it within 90 days. nice!

And Moto is going to 4.4. Samsung will get it too........in 2014, perhaps early 2015. who knows :p
[Nexus 4 General] ssvijay:
There are various factors that determines the usage of old binaries , if my understanding is right, Kernel version is one

Different kernel version means mostly the binaries have to be recreated

Most older device either use Binaries of Nexus with similar chip - to get working ROM - but htese cant be fully fucntional

So just the source may not help.

That being said if the kernel details and source are available then devs definitely have a chance of getting a fully functional AOSP before Google drops a Factory image or OTA
[Nexus 4 General] SamS1989:
does it mean anything for us ?!
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
its the aosp source still without an update kernel source...still dont know if its compatible without the binaries....

this isn't the aosp source?
[Nexus 4 General] 4NDR345:
is someone going to build a 4.4 aosp version ??
[Nexus 4 General] jokkir:
Yes but there are missing binaries and most likely won't work 100%
[Nexus 4 General] dcunited08:
Yes, once all the source is uploaded...
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
Damn...and im afraid to publish binaries they will have the same problem as with n7???
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Just read Android Central... There is an article about our phone being the first to receive Kit Kat and very soon.
[Nexus 4 General] merfsiu:
Where is the free calls through hangouts using my gv number like ois got weeks ago. With all of the hangouts and g+ hype I was expecting this. I ported my number to gv and switched to the $30 plan a week ago in anticipation. Grrrrrr
[Nexus 4 General] patstock11:
Am I hearing right that our N4 will not be getting the transparent bars? If so why the hell not?
[Nexus 4 General] spelaben:
Could anyone already figure out if the Nexus 5 will use a 3.8 or 3.10 linux kernel?
[Nexus 4 General] GeknGekn:
Firstly, Google has said that they will support devices up to 18 month from RELEASE. Then it doesn't matter if you bought the phone today or a year ago, still the same device. Secondly, WTF are you guys talking about? KitKat will arrive to the N4, period. When? Probably on Saturday, if you look at the upload flow there are a lot of specific mako thingys showing up ex: kernel related. Why Saturday? Well simply because you will have the necessary source to build from, whereas ota you will have to ask the green giant, OTA release will happened first when it runs as it should on our device. If it's really important for people to get the latest yesterday start learning what it is you are really getting, it ain't a lamp it's beautiful code that is annoyingly complicated . Grow a mustache and support the fight against testicle cancer instead :)
[Nexus 4 General] nurderbvb:
Link?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] jcmaddox1:
Anybody else notice the different play store..? It has a Drawer now like most Gapps.
[Nexus 4 General] Lupin The Third:
All things come to him who waits - provided he knows what he is waiting for!

And here we are waiting for a miserable number to be added to our "about phone"... a tiny 0.1 (+4.3).

Blah...
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Link...its all over the place, Look it up
[Nexus 4 General] Androidsims:
That was released like 2 weeks ago.
[Nexus 4 General] jokkir:
I don't really understand it either. I understand about other stuff because of the new Snapdragon 800 on the Nexus 5 but this Launcher should be able to do it on any device.

Yeah, it's old. Android Police had the update a few weeks ago but some people are only getting it now
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Man, it would be nice if they could at least give us the Hangouts update to play with while they troll us along with 4.4
[Nexus 4 General] tarroyo:
So who's gonna be the first to put together a 4.4 Kit Kat rom now that the AOSP sources have been pushed out?
[Nexus 4 General] nurderbvb:
All i see is 'in the next weeks'. There is no 'nexus 4 at first' or 'very soon'.

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[Nexus 4 General] murdah204:
The Hangouts update requires 4.4......
[Nexus 4 General] bpear96:
It works with 4.0+
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Doesn't matter who does it first, it's not going to matter. With the old binaries it's not going to perform up to specs. My guess is with the old binaries the new SurfaceFlinger version won't be included. The new version finally uses OpenGL ES 2.0 which should significantly speed up the Interface. That's dead & gone for now with old binaries. Just my guess.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
No. Transparent bars are N5 exclusive.
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
My biggest worry is that T-Mobile will try to push the update to my phone and it won't stick due to my exposed framework mods and then my data usage will go through the roof like with 4.3... I'm not concerned about getting 4.4 really...
[Nexus 4 General] flakmunkey:
I'm actually happy to hear that, that's the one 4.4 feature I was not too happy about. The status bar is fine but something about the look of the transparent navbar (especially when against a white background) just doesnt look right to me
[Nexus 4 General] DarkRyoushii:
Now that it's officially released does it mean that Cyanogenmod users (and other ROM users) are going to rip through their data while their phone downloads the update repeatedly but fails to install it? Same as what happened with 4.3's update. I'm out of the loop and wondering if I should jump back on factory image to avoid this again.
[Nexus 4 General] mymeatb18:
So flash the factory image when available
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Wait, what!? Why would it be an exclusive? It's in the framework and only software related. I don't see any hardware that is needed to support this feature. If custom ROMs can have it, so can stock, especially for the n4

We shall see when we get it though...

sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] californicated:
Source?

If it's true I'm done with Google. I'm fine if features can't be ported because of hardware support. But copying a feature from custom roms and making it N5 only? That's not right.
[Nexus 4 General] illr:
Just flash a 4.4 ROM that has this feature when available lol not that serious
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/

Note the asterisk next to full-screen wallpapers with preview, that signifies currently only available on Nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Guys.. Do yourself a favor.. Stop believing everything anyone posts in here and what 4.4 will do on our Nexus 4.. Until you have the phone in your hand running 4.4 you're foaming at the mouth and rage quitting over unconfirmed guessing by people reading way too much into an entirely different devices feature list..

Go to bread...
[Nexus 4 General] vickpick:
Guys, the transparent bars are going to be on Nexus 4. The star refers to the wallpaper preview part.
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
Low-power audio playback

Android 4.4 on Nexus 5 lets you listen to music for longer - up to 60 hours of audio playback.*

Touchscreen improvements

Improved software and Nexus 5’s new hardware mean Android responds to your touch faster and more accurately than ever before.*

*Currently only available on Nexus 5

Only those two are n5 exclusive!!
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
I wonder how many here were complaining when their Nexus 4 came with Photosphere and the Galaxy Nexus didn't...
[Nexus 4 General] SoCaljunglist:
I'm pretty sure that's in relation to the previewing aspect.
[Nexus 4 General] ste71m:
False

Check api docs there's a new theme translucid holo or something like that in API 19

Inviato dal mio ME301T con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 General] showstopper1:
If I still have to wait for kitkat for my mako in the meantime I will get a nexus5 and will burn it into ashes !!
[Nexus 4 General] Rempty:
Added Tags Andorid 4.4_r1 maybe the image is comming soon

https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+refs
[Nexus 4 General] jarjar124:
within a few weeks. Most likely next week. If lucky, this weekend. However I'm sure Google wants the Nexus 5 to be the first device with KitKat, so most likely next week or weekend. :)

For the nav bar, it wouldn't be exclusive as that is HDR+, Ok google now at homescreen,etc. No mention of the clear navigation bar being exclusive. However, some devices will have it disabled

https://android.googlesource.com/device/samsung/manta/+/65ddbc2cc5f310a442ba92d319390edacea92cea
[Nexus 4 General] patstock11:
Thank you. Kinda the way I took it too
[Nexus 4 General] memi_pt:
Oh google! I hear that... I mean It seems that they publish aosp version so may be some co have it even sooner than us!!! is it true?
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
<!-- Translucent status & navigation bars perform poorly on this device -->

On nexus 10???all custom roms has it and its performing poorly??
[Nexus 4 General] BungleMX:
I won´t update until clear status and navbar are available :mad:
[Nexus 4 General] Marcb:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-4.4_r1

https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako-kernel/+/android-4.4_r1

looks like all the sources are out... right?
[Nexus 4 General] psycho693:
How do I compile from only those sources sorry I'm new and trying to learn
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
No binaries yet...