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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Peerke82:
same gap issue

I have had this same issue with all of my new notes :eek: Returned it 3 times and now even with the 4th one I can look straight into the inside of the tablet through the gap which is between the screen and the bezel...pfff. I give up and try to live with it. Only thing I am worried about is that dust will get behind the glass because of this gap.

Anyone knows if this can happen, or is the space between the glass and the display sealed for dust to enter?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
I don't know, I think Samsung is just as bad, and sometimes worse than other manufacturers when it comes to QC. Unfortunately, yes - the first thing I do is check for defects because of the limited return/exchange period. And if it's a new or hot device, you wanna be quick if stores have low stock. For the record, I've returned 2 Note 10's so far for dead pixels. #3 seems to be ok so far, but need to examine it a bit more.

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Yeah, I'm also a bit surprised to see no book covers at, or shortly after launch. I don't know what's going on with Samsung this year - same stuff going on with Note 3 phone. Hardly any Samsung branded accessories out there even after several weeks after launch. I can only imagine how much money their losing out on due to people buying the cheapo cases on eBay, etc. Accessories are usually big profit items, surprised it hasn't been more of a priority for Samsung. On the other hand, guess we should just be happy that we're getting anything (cough, Nexus tablets) maybe someday.

Since you mentioned Fry's, funny story about an exchange I did there today. When I showed the CS rep the dead pixels on the screen, she told me "Oh, I think it's supposed to be like that". Lol! I just kind of gave her a look and told her "no... it's not". After the exchange, she took the one I returned and stuck an "open box item, reduced price" sticker on it. Why bother sending it back to Samsung as a defective item when you can just put it back on the shelf? Ugh. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
I feel exactly the opposite, that the Note 3 has way better build quality and feel to it, lol. I like the Note 10, but honestly, a little disappointed with the build quality... I dunno, there is a certain cheapness to it.

- Back feels plasticy, not as nice grip as Note 3

- Plastic silver bevel is just ugly and looks exactly like silver plastic. Look closely around the edges - I have a few rough spots and some little nicks and pits on it. Does not feel smooth all the way around.

- The glass bevel on the top center and bottom center (near the USB port) is not completely flat, there is a slight hump to it. If you run your finger across it, you will feel it. It's very subtle. Just seems kind of half-assed, I don't think it's a defect though.

- The back creaks. Mostly the top half on mine.

Other than that, the screen is bright and beautiful, looks amazing.

I had a Nexus 10, build quality was also questionable on that. Had the infamous yellow light bleed issues. Creaked along the back. The right speaker used to short out and go silent, would have to give it a whack to get it going again.

Also had the Sony Xperia Z tablet, the waterproof one. Build quality was superb. Speaker placement was awful though, they were on the bottom corners and would become muffled simply by holding it. Also, Sony uses those weird shatter proof films on the screen which gives it a slight yellow cast.

So I don't know... I do like the Note 10, but not in love with it. I don't believe the perfect 10" Android tablet has yet been built. Although I hate iOS, the build quality on iPads blows everything else away. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
Probably the main 5 things I like about my Note 3:

- The beautiful screen (uses a lot of battery though).

- It uses close to zero battery with screen off, 3G/Wifi on.

- The back looks and feels better.

- Speaker, though sounding poor is now seldomly obstructed because of placement.

- The many options included by Samsung through its Touchwiz interface (greatly prefer it to AOSP).

...and not too much else, at least compared to the Note 2.

I don't know what you compare the build quality of the new Note 10.1 to, but to me it seems you want it built like a (heavy, vulnerable) iPad. I own both, both new, (white) iPad in a cool Decoded leather cover, the (white) Note still without one because of Samsung. Both are a joy to handle and hold for what they do best.

I really don't see your nit-picking as anything real or even noticable, unless your unit is different / defective. The plastic edges on the 2014 Note 10.1 I hardly notice, and I am super glad by the weight they save. On the Note 3 those same edges (more prominent) give me a sense of imbalance and a nightmarish feeling if ever I should drop it on stone/concrete. The latter is far more easier to happen with a phone, since you carry it around and use it at many more places as you would a tablet. I imagine endless finicking with my nails to get rid of blemishes if ever the Note 3 fell on such a surface.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] nebsif:
My note is perfect (made in vietnam, SPM-600).

Got compliments on my note's looks as well as never heard any one complain about GS3/GS4 plastics IRL.

I'd be happy if the silver band was true aluminium, but the fact its plastic doesnt bother me at allll, and the back feels nice 2 (imo).

Anyway so happy I ordered this, had to do a freaking wire transfer to freaking tiger direct (to ship to Israel), once I root it and get more apps compatible with pen window i'll have a windows like experience plus a ton more intuitive and touch friendly UI (minus real deal photoshop and eclipse/visual studio :P)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
Grrrr, just noticed my right speaker is loose too. Seems pretty common... It's not that bad, but obviously shouldn't be like that. I don't know... I wouldn't say the build quality is at 100% on these things. As I said before, I like the tablet, but don't love it
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] red321red321:
Lol mine is loose too. Just bought this a few days ago. Damn samsung piece of crap.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] tenderidol:
For a device that costs this much, these are little extreme. Previous generation of Note 10.1 had quite a bit of QC issues (I had to return 3 of them), and I'm not looking forward to the same ordeal with the 2014 when it's time to buy it. Let's hope that the second -or third- batch will be problem-free (although, knowing Samsung, this is just wishful thinking of course).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
Yeah, mine has some wiggle, but not falling off or rattling (yet, lol). If it gets any worse, I'll use a little super glue. I have a perfect screen, not worth risking a return. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] red321red321:
Same here. First tablet I got had a yellowing screen with severe discoloration at the bottom near the buttons. It's amazing how large the variation is between different tablets.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
I gotta go back and exchange mine out again. All along the thin plastic rim, where it meets the glass, is scratched up and pitted. It's so rough, it feels like sandpaper in some spots. I tried to ignore it for awhile, but it's driving me nuts, I can feel it every time I pick up the tablet. It's also visible to the eye, you can see it. I compared to the display models and the rim is perfectly smooth on those.

I've already returned two due to dead pixels, on #3 now and it has the loose speaker as well. I will be exchanging for #4... If that one also has problems, I might be tempted to give up on this thing. :mad:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
Well, I gave up. Exchanged for a 32gb iPad Air today. Yeah, yeah I know the limitations of iOS, lol. But I need a 10" tablet now and can't wait to see what happens with Nexus 10. I have both the Note 3 and the Gear... for the money, the Note 10 was just not up to par, for me. Oh well... maybe 2015 edition? ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BooBoo_el_Locco:
The grill from my note is loose too
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] red321red321:
How are the styluses and pdf annotation. I might exchange too if I can find a good stylus
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aimfire72:
Well, about a year ago I had an iPad 3 and used an app called PDF Pen to initial and sign a lot of real estate and legal documents. Safe to say it can be used for serious stuff, lol. The stylus I had used was a Wacom Bamboo which was just "ok". There are about 100 different iPad styli out there, you'd probably be able to find a decent one to suit your needs.

The thing I will miss the most about the Note 10 is the ability to run two apps side by side and the SD card slot. But in the end, after 3 bad ones, could not justify spending $600 on a premium tablet with the various build quality issues that I experienced. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] californiarailroader:
Since most without any issues will not post on here, or any site, we really have no way of knowing exactly how widespread or common issues are. We on XDA are a TINY fraction of the world's population. Mine is awesome, and a lot of others on here seem to be happy with theirs as well. Their have been some pretty big complaints on the new iOS, so it's not perfect, and the iPad Air has only been out a couple of days, so we'll have to wait for issues. Check the Apple forums, there are as many, and sometimes more issues with their devices as the Android or Microsoft products. I'm sorry some have had issues, but we can't really make a judgement call, for the reasons I listed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] mi7chy:
I remember the iPhone 5 had yellow screen issue when it was released.

http://www.cultofmac.com/192299/does-your-iphone-5-screen-seem-yellow-dont-worry-overmuch/

With that said they can't pay me to go back to using iPhones and iPads. My Note 3 Snapdragon 800 is significantly better all-around than iPhone 5s with A7 in real world performance, pen, usability, multitasking, display, etc. and the experience will mirror over to the larger Note 10.1 or 12.2 Snapdragon 800 vs iPad Air A7. And, with Android 4.4 Kit Kat rolling out with native code optimization it will be even better. iOS 7, on the other hand, is just catching up with Android 4.1.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-review-996p6.php
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] bluetoothless:
All my neighboring (12+)Best Buys are out of stock and it was listed as back ordered when attempting "ship to store/store pick-up" option yesterday. Now it says "unavailable" for ordering or any other option???? Maybe Best Buy got tired of all returns also, or is waiting for updated batch???? Hmmm? Samsung/BB kiosk manager says they get small shipments every Tuesday and Thursday morning.

¢ via NOTE 3
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] whpgab:
Hi!

I have a strange problem, when tab is in sleep mode and I grab it with one hand on the right side where the spen is, it turns on, and says I removed the pen. Sometimes it happens randomly when I touch the right side. I turn off everything which is related to spen.

Disable pen detection is on.

Pointer is off.

Direct pen input is off.

Pen detachment options is none

Pen attach/detach sound is off

Is it a failure or is it normal?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] skygunner27:
For what it's worth, I have a perfect unit.........

but it took 3 exchanges(Note 10.1 2014), a return(Note 10.1 2014), an iPad Air purchase and a final Note 10.1 2014........to get the perfect unit. I still own the iPad air, but it pales in comparison to what can be done on the Note 10.1 2014.

When you have a perfect model, this really is a great device.

The only issue I have is viewing YouTube videos at home on my Asus RT-AC68R router in 5ghz AC. At work I have no such issues on the company router.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] TranquilityBlue:
Shame the build quality on this tablet seems to be so variable. I was fortunate enough to get an issue-free tablet and I think it represents a good step forward for Samsung's overall build aesthetics. I wish the S4 had the textured back as well, although I rarely use it without a case so I suppose that's a moot point.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kmroth20:
I had that same problem. I exchanged it for a new one. This problem has been posted on many of the forums.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] whpgab:
Yes, I found it. Is the new one is better?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
I have seen another person not getting good streaming speed on 5ghz.

Is the office 5ghz also?

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Can you tell us what case is on your G-Note 2014 photo??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] skygunner27:
hmmmm.....

Now that I think about it, no it is not.

What's strange is that I am about 12 feet away from my personal Asus router and have been using it in 5 gigahertz the whole entire morning without issue. Once I get about 40 feet away on five gigahertz the Internet starts to lag out even with full signal strength...or I may receive a authentication error.

Every new 10.1 2014 Edition that I've had has the same issue.

I have the official Samsung Book cover.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] deathshead:
Just got our black 32gb from newegg on wednesday.

no tax and I got it in under 48hrs no build issues at all here, unlike my nexus 10 which took 4 replacements to get a good one. My old man however, who is in his mid 60s whos tablet this really belongs too was NOT happy it was made in Vietnam. He really wanted to send it back and reorder hoping for a South Korean made unit.

wheres yours all made in?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] silverbladef:
Why was your old man unhappy about the tablet being made in Vietnam?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] golfinggino:
i have no issues with build quality or lag - this is the first android device i have not rooted and installed a custom rom / kernel within the first hours of owning it ( due to the fact that there is no custom roms lol ) but it is very fast with a great screen with good battery life which is all the things i look for in a tablet so no complaints here will stick with this tablet for the time being and always looking for something better - i was going to return this tablet to the store i bought i from and buy a used p601 for $100 cheaper then what i paid but with no custom roms available i think i will just stick with stock with waranty for now
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SomeGuyDude:
IMO this is the best built tablet on the market. And I've tried them all. Every iPad, every Nexus, the Surface line, everything. Not even close.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] silverbladef:
Ok now you're just exaggerating.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] bc195902:
How likely when you buy something new and realise that is defective already. Here I am. The note 10.1 2014 I got have a yellowish screen. And creaking back cover.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SomeGuyDude:
Nope. It's why I went with the Note instead of something else. I could have just as easily picked up another tablet, but this one felt the best in my hands, to me anyway.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] deathshead:
Hes a bit "Old School" I guess you could say, LOL.

You know, the war, communists.. etc.. not likes its any better or worse than China.

Plus the fact that Vietnam isnt exactly known for high tech manufacturing compared with

Japan, South Korea and China. But I must say the tablet is very well made I dont have any issues.

I will say this however,that plastic chrome ring is BULLSH*T!

I already put a big dent in it turning around and whacking the door frame in the house.

Good thing it will have a moko case on it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kmroth20:
I'm still waiting to get the new one. I'll let you know.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SousukeUK:
Oh this is interesting.

My Note 3 on 5 GHz also gives me slow connection error (even disconnection) when I go just 12 feet away from router with two door between us.

My router is Asus RT-56NU.

Maybe it's a Samsung and Asus rivalry issue.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
Will test on my Asus RT-AC68 router, as I own both Note's.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
Actually I have also experienced that intermittent WiFi issue. I figured it's because of my junk router, but now I'm not so sure. I'm on a D Link DGL 4500, and it's a complete piece of trash when it comes to WiFi. Anyway, once in a while, I would be browsing and trying to load a new site or look for something on the play store, then I would get the no connection error. I would retry and it would reload successfully.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Got my tablet about an hour ago and just noticed the left speaker grill makes a little noise when you tap it, it doesn't bother me since its nowt major but it's shouldn't be happening on a top of the range tablet. Other than that it seems very nicely built.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] 30Seconds:
I've noticed there is some slight screen lift on mine on the top near where the camera is. I'm not certain if it was there when I first got it so I am keeping a close watch on it.

Another interesting thing I have noticed is that when I am holding the tablet if I put my index fingers straight up along the side so as to be covering the speakers the Wi FI drops a couple of bars.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Mitsjke:
I have a creaky screen (left) too. Also a loose IR-Blaster and the right speaker is loose too.

Went to MediaMarkt Germany to claim my warranty

MediaMarkt sent my Note to Samsung Germany.

Unfortunately, I got him back today with the news that Samsung doesn't see this as a defect and could do nothing for me and I just have to accept the bad build quality.

I'm really furious about how Samsung treated me after buying a tablet of 500 euros (672 dollar!) that shows these defect within two weeks.

Fortunately MediaMarkt Germany was prepared to give in under courtesy my money back.

After how Samsung treated me; I'll never buy a Samsung device again! While I was really satisfied with my older S2 and my current S4. But the way the handle these claims in unacceptable.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] AM Radio:
picked up one today at Best Buy, i'm assuming it's the latest batch. (is there a way to determine manufacture date?) Canada, white, wi-fi.

- no creaks anywhere on screen or back

- frame and screen is uniform: no bent frames or anything out of the sort

- no bumps on the back

- left speaker grille solid; right speaker grille has The Slightest bit of give (like 0.05mm) but only when very deliberately pressed with some effort along the bottom half. i wouldn't have noticed unless i was looking for it. otherwise solid and definitely not loose.

- unit makes no noise indicating anything loose when shaken

- IR blaster rock solid

looks like Sammy ironed out all the kinks in the 2014 batches.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] STELIOSFAN:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo

Install this. You will be able to see all info. Manufacture date, where it was built etc etc
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] AM Radio:
great app for info. is this app just for phones? the app description doesn't list the SM-P600. because this is interesting:

It looks like your phone is NOT a genuine one.

It looks like your phone is a refurbished one.

It looks like the firmware has been modified.

WARNING: Your phone does not have Manufacturing Date information.

WARNING: Your phone does not have Hardware Revision information.

WARNING: Your phone does not have Baseband version.

WARNING: Invalid IMEI number.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] STELIOSFAN:
Already installed it on my sm-p605 and I have all the info (none of the warnings above)

Installed it on a friends sm-p600 (with kit kat via odin) and has all the info except the man.date (but none of the warnings above)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] AM Radio:
for the warnings to come up, i had to go into the "refurbishment check"

it was able to tell me my manufacture date via serial number. but being the wi-fi version, it wouldn't have an IMEI.

but otherwise, it's telling me i have a fake, refurbished Note with modified firmware. for all three categories to pop up, go figure.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] STELIOSFAN:
Yeap, you're right. In the wi-fi (non rooted, flashed KK via odin) I get the same warnings.

In the LTE everything is good.

So I guess this program checks for official "out of the box" FW and cellular.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] elsamuraiguapo:
I also started to get a loose speaker grill, except mine is on the left. The right one is still nice and tight. And they were originally both tightly in there for the first few months I had this tablet (bought it back in Nov). Other than that no other flaws. And really the loose speaker grill is not that big of a deal. I don't care as long as is doesn't fall out.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] :
Creaky and bezel loose

Hello. I got the 605 and i noticed it has started to creak alot and i also noticed that the bezel has loosened from the glass around the sd and sim slots. I can even get my nail between the glass and bezel. Other than that all is okay with my tablet.

So what do you all think, should i return it for a replacement? Its rooted and i run darkmans stockyrom. Will they honor the warranty? Its after all only a physical defect, not a root related issue.

Or should i just go on and dont care.? Based on what others wrote, I might be lucky that this is the only fault i got on my note.

Never samsung again! 750€ for this quality isnt okay!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Get it exchanged unless out of return date then get it sent to samsung to fix. No your not lucky as having bezel and screen issues is major...its the major part of the tablet, having loose speaker grills in minor but having glass coming apart is something thats shouldnt be overlooked as it could easily get worse and most importantly it weakens the whole tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] :
Noticed now that its the same at other places. I can fit my thumbnail between the chrome bezel and glas at the micro usb port, at the volume button and at the micro sd & sim slots, the last one being the most aparent. Everywhere else the bezel is tightly fastened to the glas. Can anyone verify that this is normal or something i should get checked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Tanner1447:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a Zip to flash and have this animation?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lilhectord:
Would also like this!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] @rbiter:
Me three.

Sent from my SM900T.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] aooga:
This would be awesome.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] elyranon:
BUMP, anyone?

Would also like this one

Please and Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] 01010001:
It's an option in GravityBox (Xposed Module). No one has been able to reliably get it to work when turning it on (due to lockscreen issues I think), but it works fine when turning the phone off.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jazzmachine:
This is built into Tweaked ROM (TSM Parts in Settings) and works flawlessly. On my Note 8 I have it working via the XBlast xposed module (with Civato's KK ROM), but don't use that module on the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] hackhound:
I cannot get the icon to show up in s-note for the handwriting recognition. It works in other apps like in the URL field of the browser. What am I missing?

Thanks,

Hackhound
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kjhud:
Where is it not working for you and through what app?