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[Nexus 5 General] TurkzZ:
done it manually in the end, not as hard as i thought it be.

http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/12/manually-update-nexus-5-android-4-1-kitkat/

perfect guide, updated from MacBook
[Nexus 5 General] nexusguy74:
I think I'll try this when I finish work.
[Nexus 5 General] nexusguy74:
I tried updating from computer but no luck has anyone had the ota yet in U.K.
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
no, it will arrive! If you feel like you need the OTA asap, then you would need to clear the framework cache and all that, cause the google services framework maintains a cache that will only update on cycles
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
NO - DO NOT clear the framework - it doesn't help, and it only messes up up other Google services...

http://www.talkandroid.com/185088-g...houldnt-clear-google-services-framework-data/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/

Though this was common knowledge by now.. Please do not advise things unless you have a source!!
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
I think I actually read it here on xda somewhere.... but I think those links you have there are a bit, erm, not all that correct... or rather overkill.

not really what I would call, messing up, since as a developer who uses google play frameworks/services I have to do that sometimes to clear settings/tokens, i personally think the "factory reset" is absolute rubbish lol. If that were at all the case on the 10 devices I test on I would be screaming at google to replace their secure device/user database, as would others..

Edit:

Actually thinking about this, I can think of a few reasons that google would say something like this, rather than saying, "please dont do it as it creates another record our database for the same device"... and I can imagine that if millions of people did it, that would be very frustrating :)

Edit edit:

Huh thinking about it more, if developers use GCM id's and such as immutable/static then it could affect some apps, but then clearing data on those apps would/should fix...at worst re-install.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
I kind of see what you are saying, but I think its wrong to say that the links I included were "not..correct". For sure, there will be some benefit to Google if we all stopped clearing the frameworks ;) Here are the direct quotes, although I am sure that you have already read them.

Reddit 1

Reddit 2

The advice comes straight from a Google engineer - who himself says that the best way to update quickly is via ADB. Clearing the frameworks at worse causes some apps to misbehave and at best does absolutely nothing. Clearing the frameworks does not help get an OTA faster...

No offence, but if I have to trust someone on the internet, it'll be the guy from Google...

Be interesting to read the xda link you mention, though.
[Nexus 5 General] nexusguy74:
I tried framework trick no luck and phone didn't get messed up I guess I'll just wait a few more days and see if it comes thanks for the tips.
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
Was not aware it made no difference to OTA updates, like I said I just remember it being mentioned as a possibility.. with mixed results, will try and find link.. But as I said, I do know that 99% of the time there should be no issue in doing so, but also no point unless you're a developer if what you say is true about OTA updates. I know 100% that clearing play store/services cache allows updates of apps quicker (based on whatever the cycle of checking is) cause I do that lots for that very reason :)

Personally I would never rush to get an OTA update unless there were some serious bug that was preventing normal usage !

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If you are that desperate why does adb sideload not work ?

Edit : FYI : I just tried it "just cause curious" and it worked fine, although curious why this update patches the radio!!! hmmm
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
ADB sideload only fails if your phone is modified.

Radio patching could be for any number of things. Most likely for the camera changes.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Has anyone received their 4G software update from Three yet?
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
What is it?

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[Nexus 5 General] EddyOS:
It'll be an APN update, has to be on anything other than Three-branded handsets

And no, I haven't had it yet!
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
If it's just an APN, then surely anyone could get started? We'd just need the APN details, and we'd be off. I think something has to be switched on at Three for each account (during the staggered roll-out, anyway).

More info -- http://blog.three.co.uk/2013/12/04/4g-is-rolling-out-on-three/
[Nexus 5 General] EddyOS:
Correct, but the change phone-side will only be an APN as there is no Three software on the Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
OK.. so.. do any of us know aniPhone user so that we can pinch their APN details? AFAIK, its only iPhone users that have had 4G switched on... happy to be corrected though :cowboy:
[Nexus 5 General] Biohead:
It's a select trial at the minute. Just under 3000 users who are registered in the trial areas. It's a bit dubious of Three calling it a launch when only certain people can get it at the minute, but it should be enabled for everyone in the next few months. It's also not just iPhone owners, but anyone with a 4G handset.

Although the trialists have been issued a new sim in order to gain access to the 4G network - this won't be the case when 4G gets launched for everyone. Still calling this a Dec 2013 launch seems a bit naughty by Three though.
[Nexus 5 General] big_b0sss:
need some help. im on three ultimate 500 plan therefore i am not allowed for tethering. although i don't plan to use it regularly but sometimes i really need it. so far I've tried few tethering apps from play store but no success. so would anyone be able to suggest me an app that would bypass the restriction. one app though i tried let me tether Internet with my Android tablet but not with my laptop.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
The restriction is against your terms and conditions. Although I think charging for it is really poor, circumventing it is questionable morally.

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[Nexus 5 General] 2Pints:
As far as i know three use something called deep packet inspection to detect if your tethering or not, if your on the one plan which allows tethering at certain times your speeds/ping etc will be worse while tethering this from what i understand is to stop people using it as a full time internet connection, if your not on the one plan you should get/or might get a message on screen, if you can sign up for 12 months you can get the one plan for £15 sim only, otherwise you may be better off looking elsewhere.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
That's weird.. I am not on any One or unlimited data package, but I tether to a tablet all the time. Never to a laptop, though, so I wonder if that makes the difference?

BTW - not using an app for tethering, just what is already built in to stock Android
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Yes, I know someone on the 12.90 sim only and he can tether, then another on the same plan cannot. Perhaps it's a time of sign up thing.

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[Nexus 5 General] big_b0sss:
i know it's against terms and conditions but im already on a 24months contract £34/m :(. i saw somewhere that Cynogenmod has an app for tethering
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Just got 4.4.2 update
[Nexus 5 General] sumo75:
OTA?
[Nexus 5 General] jonyid:
Not even got 4.1.1 yet I thought Google were good for updates. Part of the reason I moved from HTC
[Nexus 5 General] sumo75:
Got to love Google,sitting here wanting to get the update for my nexus 5 and my nexus 7 gets the 4.4.2 update.ironic!
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Yeah ota, perhaps some extra fixes from 4.4.1
[Nexus 5 General] Deeco7:
Here are the necessary OTA links (Always follow AP):

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...re-are-the-ota-zip-links-for-manual-updating/
[Nexus 5 General] poplectic:
And there's the 4.4.2 update for my nexus 5. Very very happy with the camera performance now.
[Nexus 5 General] jonyid:
At least it appears to be hitting UK devices now. Hoping to wake up to either one or two updates
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
So, it looks like the UK is skipping 4.4.1 and going straight to 4.4.2

Nice :good:
[Nexus 5 General] jwsg:
4.4.2 received
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
I'm still waiting in the UK and checked status in settings which says I'm up to date :( hopefully it'll come through later.
[Nexus 5 General] SmilerOnline:
//Edit

Decided to manually update anyway sorry for the useless post...
[Nexus 5 General] Scarygore:
Following on from the discussions regarding the three network, I just phoned an adviser to lift my roaming bar. As she did that for me, she mentioned, unprompted, that 4G would be available before the end of December for all customers. I wouldn't normally believe a word the advisers say as they usually just tell you what you want to hear, or say they don't know anything.... but if she hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't even have asked.
[Nexus 5 General] nexusguy74:
Just got my ota update 4.4.2 I guess U.K are getting it finally.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Seems like a gradual release so they must be pushing it in batches rather than everyone getting it at once. I'm still waiting but I'm patient enough.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
I still haven't recieved 4.4.2 (or 4.4.1) on any of my Nexus (4,5, or 7)!!

Waiting patiently :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Be patient, got 4.4.2 last night. Cam speed much better
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
I haven't received an ota update ever. Since 2.1

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[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Time to upgrade from 3110.....
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Just a thought - will I have to remove root, TWRP or Gravity Box before I get my 4.4.2 OTA?

First time with a Nexus, so not sure what would stop an OTA coming through to me.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Root never used to affect my N4 from getting OTA's and still doesn't as got the 4.4 update while rooted stock on it. Not 100% sure but think custom recoveries do stop it but don't take my word for it as gospel ;)
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Custom recoveries don't flash it automatically, you have to go into it and flash update manually, like any zip.
[Nexus 5 General] Dirk:
Fully stock 4.4, just got the 4.4.2 OTA this evening. Everything seems to be working fine so far. I don't use the camera so i guess i'm not benefiting much from the update! :p
[Nexus 5 General] albert_htc:
All our nexus devices have updated except my nexus 5!

Typical..

Sent from my Nexus 7 (2013) KitKat 4.4.2
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
I had a 3210

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[Nexus 5 General] BigD18t:
i manually pushed the 4.4.2 update, and get random Bug report notifications in the bar, not sure why or what it's for, i get no FC's for any apps.
[Nexus 5 General] elspanish88:
Hey man good to see you over here too, i remember you from the S3 general chat forum... They still talking llama lube over there? Lol

I used to get that all the time... It vibrates just before saying "bug report captured" if you turn off dev tools until you need them they'll stop... They did for me anyway
[Nexus 5 General] aneesh99:
I'm in the process of RMA'ing my device because it refuses to connect to my network (T-Mobile) but I noticed when I was taking a peek at the antenna, it says model number D820. Isn't that for North America? :confused:
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Hi there.....

Yep, every now and again ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
It is, but that wouldn't affect it working on T-Mobile. It only affects LTE bands.

It's also possible that that all say that inside.
[Nexus 5 General] aneesh99:
Yeah, probably so. Anyway, RMA'd for faulty antenna, Play Store says the new one is shipping on the 29/11. Ah well!
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
Googles P&P is god awful. 10.99 to ship the wireless charger? no thanks Google. I would love one but nah
[Nexus 5 General] bash156:
Has anyone else 4g signal dropped on 4.4.2
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Are you showing off?? You might *just* be in the minority

Some of us don't have 4g yet or 4.4.2 !!!
[Nexus 5 General] bash156:
Apologies I was being serious on 4.4 the signal was always really good I sideboard the update and now it's dropped

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Sideloaded lol
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Lol, it's cool, I am just bitter that 4.4.2 or 4G still hasnt reached me. Nothing personal :highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] bash156:
No worries mate I just got impatient
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Well got to my parents and picked up my old Nexus 4 which I've given her and the update was sat there waiting!!! She now says she has a better phone then me haha bless her. Annoying seeing it on the N4 first but at least it's on one of the phones now.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Reached n4 and n7 '13 in my household now. Not on n7' 12 as she's on custom rom.
[Nexus 5 General] duke_stix:
4.4.2 update happening as we speak :)
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
It might be that the signal is the same but the bars have been tweaked.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Good Lord... Earnt my money trying to update to 4.4.2!

Had to uninstall GravityBox and Xposed... Had to uninstall the modified framework... Then sideload 4.4.2... The re-root the thing. Then had to fix permissions, re-install the framework, and finally got GravityBox working again on 4.4.2

That was hard work...:eek:
[Nexus 5 General] BigD18t:
Ok, will try that.
[Nexus 5 General] t0p8uzz:
Suffering similar signal issues, was fine before 4.4.1 ... considering flashing the radio from 4.4 back on it's that bad now!
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Bad as in lower bars or bad as in you drop calls?
[Nexus 5 General] D33KK:
I work for Three, we are told the rollout of 4g will not be finished this year (completely depending on where you live)

For me in Edinburgh, it should be out by roughly March
[Nexus 5 General] matt_not_andrew:
I've just bit the bullet and ordered the N5 from the Play store. The wife will be getting my Galaxy S3 as she has been getting rather frustrated with her HTC Desire S's slow speed and naff camera. I'm not expecting the N5 to beat the S3's camera, which always served me well, but am looking forward to finally having a stock android phone. I will miss the rather larger extended battery I currently have ony S3 (4400mhA) but then I have a job where if I'm not at desk I'm in the car so hopefully battery life won't be too much of an issue.
[Nexus 5 General] Ensifolk:
Guys please where can I buy Spigen Screen protector in London ? ( My brother has to buy it himself from a STORE since he's coming in 2 days ! Doubt we can get the delivery online haha )
[Nexus 5 General] t0p8uzz:
1 Less bar in general, but its the time it takes to obtain the bars ... putting my phone in a known signal spot now takes 45-60 secs to get signal where as before it was always less than 5 sec
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
Thing with bars is they are pretty meaningless
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Meaning to gain more bars or to establish a connection after you drop it?
[Nexus 5 General] sumo75:
Great place to pick up birds though!
[Nexus 5 General] Scarygore:
I live in Manchester, maybe three will start their 4G service here a little earlier.

Sent from my Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] Ensifolk:
Anyone ? So urgent plz :(
[Nexus 5 General] irononreverse:
Amazon with first class or next day delivery should get it to you either tomorrow or Monday if you order today.

Don't think many stores stock proper screen protectors
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Has anyone here been selected for 3s 4g "launch"?
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
I wonder if they're sworn to secrecy as part of the trial. While I know only 2800 people can use it, I'd have expected at least some of them to be bragging about it, posting speed test results etc.
[Nexus 5 General] usaff22:
Ordered a white 16GB N5 off Google Play yesterday. Anyone know how long it took theirs? It said it would ship in 1-2 business days. I tried to cancel the order to instead buy a black one, but it said that my order was being prepared for shipping and could not be cancelled. Hoping it comes before the 23rd, when I will be flying overseas.
[Nexus 5 General] Tricky103:
Joining you guys with a n5 within the next couple of days, just ordered the 32gb white..

Selling the s4, HTC one and iPhone 4s on ebay as I decided to stick with stock android :)

Dam it I shipped it to my old post code :/
[Nexus 5 General] usaff22:
You should be able to cancel it on the Play Store unless they've already started preparing the package for shipping, in which it should say so. In that case, you should call Google - if the current owners of the house accept delivery, you might be charged. They might be able to cancel the delivery before it's too late lol
[Nexus 5 General] craig1965:
So what's a 16 gig nexus 5 worth to anybody any ideas of a benchmark price secondhand
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
in perfect condition and unboxed you would get the google play price I would think!
[Nexus 5 General] scouser_75:
Don't s'pose anyone knows if CarphoneWarehouse will eventually sell the 32GB version???
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
If they ever did, I am pretty certain it'll be more than the Play store price.
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
Posted this question in the RMA thread, but thought I would get a UK perspective since things work a bit different across the pond....

To the folks who RMA'd their device, did you receive an order (and/or shipping) confirmation after making the RMA purchase? I purchased my RMA, but on the status page for the order, it says "Closed". Is that normal?

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] xspyda:
Anyone purchased the Black 32gb in the last few days and had it shipped faster than the 'dispatched from warehouse 2-3 weeks' it's currently showing in the Play store?

Returned my first, want to order again but 2-3 weeks is a long time. Tempted to just go 16gb this time and save £40 for the quicker shipping. Might even get for Christmas!
[Nexus 5 General] Tricky103:
:) the address was correct I just typed my old post code, the good guys at parcel force got me the phone with no delays.. I am now the proud owner of the nexus 5 32gb in white.. Always wanted a nexus phone and my first impressions are really good. It is really fast everything is instant. Coming from using the S4 as my main phone it is nice to have stock android without any issues. Also since the release of the galaxy nexus I really wanted a phone without any buttons (soft or hard) on the front.
[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
Has anyone switched from Dalvik to ART?

My Nexus 4 has been running ART ever since 4.2.2, and battery life and performance has been amazing - like the battery has been extended..

..Unfortunately, I havent been able to try ART on my Nexus 5, since GravityBox is not yet compatible (unless I have missed an update), has anyone else experienced life with ART enabled on theor N5?
[Nexus 5 General] usaff22:
Congratulations! It's an amazing phone. I've always wanted a phone with on screen buttons too.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
When I RMA'd mine I received an email with a link to place the order for the replacement. I then got an order confirmation email as I did for my first and the order status said a shipping estimate again the same as the original. It ended up arriving the next day from putting in my RMA so was very impressed by the service. Maybe the closed message is just to show they've dealt with it and it might be updated after. I'm sure you'll still get your device but if in doubt give them a ring.
[Nexus 5 General] EddyOS:
I wiped my phone and set it up from scratch on ART and it all seems fine with the apps I use. Too early to tell how battery life is yet, though
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
I tried art and didn't feel the benefits everyone is screaming about, of anything, it was more sluggish sometimes. Reverted to good old dalvik. I was told that motox dalvik is worth it but just can't be bothered. Still running stock, not even rooted.
[Nexus 5 General] richard.tufty:
Quick shipping at the moment!

Yes! I ordered one on the 13th Dec and it still said 2-3 weeks before it leaves the warehouse, it was delivered on the 16th Dec. That was with the regular £9.95 shipping, not the quicker option.
[Nexus 5 General] x10man:
Just me that wonders why the LG QuickCover case costs more to ship than the phone itself?

Same delivery Speed, and the packaging was literally a parcel force jiffy bag. Royal mail logic at its finest...

Anyone else bought the case? How you liking it? I got a black one for my 32GB black N5

X10man
[Nexus 5 General] nexusguy74:
I'm running art phone seems faster and all apps working been on it for a week.
[Nexus 5 General] xspyda:
Wasn't aware there was a quicker option. You'd think at £9.95 it should be damn quick anyway!

Thanks. Was tempted to order last night to guarantee delivery in time for Xmas but didn't in the end. Guess it's one for the New Year now :-/
[Nexus 5 General] richard.tufty:
It's quite possible that there isn't a faster option, however I seem to remember having to choose an option of some sort on checkout, but I can't remember exactly what it was, I have slept since then!

I am in the USA at the moment, I have to wait until Christmas Eve to play with my Nexus :(
[Nexus 5 General] xspyda:
Harsh, not long to go now though.

Sill haven't ordered yet so won't see mine 'til way into the new year if it's any consolation? :)
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
Hey, has anyone ordered yesterday/today and had shipping confirmation? I understand it won't arrive before Christmas (cut off was noon 19th Dec), but I was hoping to get it before the New Year...
[Nexus 5 General] paddylaz:
Google play store uk now saying both colours in stock and 1-2 business day delivery.....
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
Not the black 32GB which is the one I bought.
[Nexus 5 General] karlj38:
I ordered a 32GB Black N5 on the 16th. Google said, it ""would be dispatched BY 29th".. Has been shipped today :D so excited to finally upgrade from my old HTC Desire S. It has served me well but is getting old now. Going from a single core 1GHz to a quad core 2+GHz is going to be fun..
[Nexus 5 General] danlocke123:
I'll be getting mine on Wednesday :D

Does anyone know where to buy a Meenova otg card reader in the UK?

I have an otg cable which works fine with flash drives on my S2, but isn't a particularly elegant solution for temporary extra storage...

EDIT: this is what I'm talking about btw- I understand I can order from them from Hong Kong, but was hoping to find a UK retailer
[Nexus 5 General] Michealtbh:
You can get knock off Meenovas really cheap from China

2014 New Android robot Micro usb to USB OTG adapter for Samsung Galaxy S2/S3/S4 connect to U flash/mouse/keyboard

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2013...r-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S2-S3-S4/1495185048.html

(from AliExpress Android)
[Nexus 5 General] gadgetgaz:
I ordered a white 32GB model from the Google playstore at 10pm on Saturday 21st. The order system stated a despatch date of 25th December! By tea time Sunday 22nd I had an "order despatched" email with a Parcel Force tracking number. it arrived today!

Can't believe the efficiency of that. Well done Google.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Mine was the same when I ordered and when I then needed to RMA, I called, they emailed me the order link and the next day I had my new device. I think when they've got stock they're super efficient like in our cases.
[Nexus 5 General] big_b0sss:
anybody know about any good Boxing day deals for gadgets or mobile phones or even laptops?