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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
Hence the issue for most reviews. The reason for the Note 10.1 IS the S Pen. If you have no use for an active stylus, this is a rather expensive tablet. The S Pen is why people buy it. I cannot imagine taking scientific / med notes w/o an active stylus, I need to be able to hand draw notes and equations.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
The 2014 is a joy to grab and hold (apart from portrait mode, where a right-handed person will press buttons by accident), also within the limits of drawing, movie watching and the few good Apps Android has this is a hell of a device !!!

Nope, the screen and speed are its main attraction, closely followed by the S-pen (for those that use it).

Most of the garbage that is poured here on the forum (and in the reviews) about the Note 10.1 and its lag comes down to the poor state of Android, with its lousy internet browsers (compared to iPad) etc. etc. If you use this device for what it is great at I see its rating close to a 10 out of 10.

If you put an HD-version of Tinker Bell: Secret of the Wings and Monster University on the SD, play those through MX Player (with NeoN-driver) and show it to a 6 year old, or anybody really, they will very much want to hold / own it. It is pure eye candy, plain and simple. Its stereo speakers help somewhat.

The main market for a stylus I see as children and drawing enthousiasts and professionals, all of which the 2014 Note 10.1 covers. For business use and note taking the stylus imo is reasonable at best, though Samsung is pushing this hardest (as it is a big market).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ukbondraider:
The main reason why Android gained any ground is because they were the cheaper option. Poor build quality phones with a very laggy os in the early days.

Samsung still make poor quality phones/tablets but want to be like Apple with pricing. Even with 10gb ram and 1500gb memory this Note should be cheaper because it is a Samsung mobile device.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ajamudc:
Lol. Thanks for the laugh.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ddavtian:
Why then are you spending your time in a poor quality tablet forum?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
Sorry but I have to respectfully disagree. If the new note had somewhat lower resolution super AMOLED display (but still much higher than the original) I still would have forked out $600 plus tax for it. On the other hand I would not pay $600 for it if it didn't have the S Pen and Wacom Digitizer. The original question here was "why the review dings over the price" and I will stick with the assertion that all of the reviews I have read just glance over the active pen.

On a side note lag / jitters are being actively addressed so that ding should go away shortly.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SomeGuyDude:
Yeah, that's why it seems to be reviewed DIRECTLY against the Nexus 10 (since they're kinda similar). They keep saying "well unless you want the S-pen get the Nexus" which is a serious "no sh!t" situation. The reviews seem to be treating it like a tablet that also happens to have a stylus sticking out of it, not a stylus-based tablet. I'm not even a HUGE stylus user but I adore this thing (and I think the screen is significantly better than the N10).

I also notice that a lot of reviewers are weirdly against the build. They rave about the Nexus 10 with its rubber back and its "solid" feel, but that just makes it feel like one of those "one laptop per child" things, like it's a toy. The Note 2014 feels like an expensive briefcase. Yeah it seems fragile, but not even SLIGHTLY cheap. Of all the tablets I've ever messed with, it feels the best in the hands by FAR. I love the faux-leather back.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
Not going to quibble about this, you don't think the S Pen is a main selling point, and that's fine. I agree the screen and processor are both incredible. Here's the question for you though ..... The upcoming Nexus 10 supposedly has the same screen and a Snapdragon 800 guessed at 2.3GHz and will be quite a bit less than the Note 10.1. At that point will you still believe that the main feature of the Note 10.1 is the screen and processor? First out the gate in the Android world does not last long. The nice thing about iPads is there isn't a new / better one coming out every month. :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
I haven't heard much about this new Nexus 10, beside its name. If it manages to match the quality and features of the 2014 Note 10.1 at a much lower price point, with the only thing lacking an S-Pen, then Samsung will be forced to seriously lower its price point of the Note 10.1. If they wouln't do that very few people will be going to buy it, apart from those using it to draw or addicted to anything "high-end" or "Samsung".

Compared to such a device of course the S-Pen will be more distinguishable, but probably not more so than price difference, brand name, marketing campaign etc.

My guess is Samsung will just lower its prices. I also think there will be differences, like possibly a missing micro-sd option or bulky size (like the Nexus 7 has).

I wish you luck with your S-Pen campaign.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
I do suspect the continued non-inclusion of external storage. I'm on no campaign here, I just think the Note line is S Pen centric.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
Oh, the Note line surely is. I was talking about what sets this device apart in the current market in the eyes of the public.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] eborregodvm:
I dropped my nexus 10 in my salt water pool and got destroyed. Bought the previous galaxy note and used for 10 days and returned to best buy because I knew that 2014 was coming out. Then bought GN 2014 at Tiger direct and been using since Oct 3.

I really love this tablet and comparing this to nexus there is no way that I would go back to nexus.

I'm a veterinarian and trying to do my medical records on a tablet, with the nexus 10 was impossible even when I tried several types of stylus.

Nexus is a great tablet for entertainment but the galaxy note is the best tablet for working people.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
Exactly. For someone who uses a tablet for work or University I cannot think of a better tablet. Currently it's the best tablet on the market, but as with everything Android that will change quickly, however this beast will remain tops for students and professionals until its replacement is out.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SomeGuyDude:
Just here to echo the above. I bought this for help with work and honestly can't imagine using anything else. For working with documents it's the best tablet experience out there.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
UPDATE:

Having used LectureNotes for a bit the last two days I now have to agree that the (old and new model) Note 10.1 can be quite useful for taking notes. The approach of LectureNotes is straightforward enough to just open the right notebook and start scribbling. Being used to S-Note and numerous note taking Apps on the iPad, all of which are cumbersome to a various extend, LectureNotes is a breath of fresh air.

Sorry for voicing doubts about the usefulness of the Note 10.1 for students and businessmen. I will edit my previous post. Edit: done.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rushless:
Seems again that Samsung should have offered to models. Some have compelling reasons for the pen function while others will not. Two models with two price points and customer focus would have been a better consumer fit and more sales for Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
You rock. Glad you tried it out! I always agreed with your take on the hardware, it is the best out there. But SPen and Lecture Notes makes this tablet something all others can only dream of.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ettepetje:
Agreed. You might want to take a look at the multitouch topic I created (link) as you could very well suffer from it as a frequent S-Pen user. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
Luckily didn't see the issue with YAMTT. That would drive me nuts.

I think at halftime I am going to root and make this baby my own.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wingdo:
I stand corrected I am able to reproduce this issue, but I cannot on my original Note. Something is obviously wrong with the drivers. I suspect Samsung is trying to get around Androids limit of 10 concurrent touch events.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] lucasgta95:
Anyone can please make for me a flashable zip of the camera and camera 3d from Xperia mini pro???

Is because i flashed other camera mods and its don't worked, then i want go back to normal camera apps, then anyone can plzz do me this favor??? *--*

(Sorry my bad english)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Someguyfromhell:
Which build are you using? Check it from Settings-About Phone. Post the Android version and build number.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] lucasgta95:
Is the firmware .587 Android 4.0.4
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] bejunk:
here i hope there all required apks included, extrcted from stock ICS fw 587.

http://www49.zippyshare.com/v/58083415/file.html
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] lucasgta95:
bejunk, your zip is giving me instalation aborted, any help???
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] KelleyCook:
The official CM 10.2 nightlies for both the Xperia T and Xperia V builds have begun...

Browse to get.cm and choose mint (T) or tsubasa (V).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Anyone tried it yet?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] KelleyCook:
Just loaded it:

Good news: The Echo Bug is gone!

Bad news: WiFi will not grab an IP address.

So its back to tilal's last (9/26) CM build for me. I'll try again in a week or so.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] DS-1:
Xperia T is now officially into CM 10.2 nightlies. Today there's a new release.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zilboris:
What about the speakerphone screech and the blue screen of death?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] looker1:
2Kelley: means that wifi is not working? What build? from 16th of 17th?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Both nightlies have broken Wifi

Edit: There's been a new one. Has anybody tested it? I guess it should be the same with previous ones.

Edit2: Yeah, same **** with previous nightlies
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] ModiYasser:
Still no love for Xperia TX :(
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] efs12:
Nightly 2013-10-20 Wifi still sucks.

Sometimes it connects for a few seconds and drops connection, sometimes you get Authentication failure.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] looker1:
Still none of 4.3 builds have wifi working. Needs to be patient :fingers-crossed:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
You mean 4.3.1

Edit: Just flashed 21/10 release and Free Xperia bootloader icon is replaced with Sony logo.

Wifi still the same
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] casis86:
Going to flash 240 now what i could read out wifi is working there? Gone report later on. What changes to 10.1 except the bugs could u guys find, Anything better on the actual working stuff?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mdc1983uk:
Yep 21st build can confirm still no Wifi and speakerphone still whistles... But they managed to change the boot screen so I guess its all good lol. Starting to lose patience with custom rom's now me. I posted an in depth idea back in August about CM10.1 about this speakerphone problem. About the top mic not being used and phone always using the bottom one which is next to the speaker and 99% sure this is what causes our whistles and echo problems. Nobody has given a reply as to why we can't try this as its what stock rom does - hit speakerphone and the bottom mic is disabled and top one only active. Devs seem more interested in fiddling with mic gains or reducing the speaker volume which is a bit of a cop out. What we really need is to not use the mic thats next to the speaker for speakerphone calls! Its never going to work properly without compromising something else like reducing volume or mic gain so the speaker won't feedback with the mic. Compare it to taking a picture towards a light. You can mess with exposure and white balance to get a picture but its never going to be what it would be if the light was behind you and not shining into the lens. Same for speakerphone. You're not going to be able to have volume up high, mic gain at optimum and the speaker and mic next to each other. It's just logical that the further apart they are the less they will interfere with each other...

Speakerphone bug quite winds me up really considering it is phones we are running these custom roms on and a simple issue with a phone function hasn't been resolved since mid August! Its like saying hey long as we have all these features and build from latest android source who cares if a basic phone function doesn't work when I think that should be the priority before adding all other bells and whistles (no pun intended).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Agree 100%
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
OK so because people are so annoyed with this bug I'm going to post a fix to CM gerrit - it's up to the CM team whether they accept it.

I've known a fix for this for ages BTW - it's fixed in my Omni build - I just haven't bothered because of CM's attitude/my commitment to omni.

Plus Kali- et all the CM team have been busy with newer devices.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] immerblind:
that made my evening. laughed loud...hehehe funny you :o

by the way, not using cm here.... hows the bootscreen loking? :D
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] r-l:
i'm putting al my fait in omnirom :good:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] St.Jimmy90:
Tilal you're a saint!!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] casis86:
Nice speach mdc1983uk, i totally agree. Iam again on 235 after trying 241 and cm10.2. Both not much changes or fixes. So in about 2 month nothing happend.

I will try tilals and aokp build tomorrow hope they work on dirt flash.

About cm10.2 wifi was working for 2 min and then it was gone. Havent found much changes in that short test. Also no dirt flash back to 10.1 possible. Had to wipe evrything.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mdc1983uk:
Tilal you are a good guy! I've looked at changes and they look very promising just hope they get reviewed and added quickly so we can test a nightly. I knew there was more to snd_soc_msm than the volumes but I couldn't work out which DEC and ADC numbers to change to what... Is there any way to add these changes to a existing install so we don't have to wait for CM? I know you can edit snd_soc with hexeditor and reboot but it looks like your fix is dependant on other fixes as well? Like do CM have to implement your thermal fix and noise supression before the changed snd_soc will work as you intend? Sorry i'm not too familiar with gerrit and how all these patch sets get reviewed and tested I just try and bring peoples attention to bugs if I can think of a new solution to try.

Cheers, Matt

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Thanks. I apologise that it did go on a bit but people have took it in the way I intended and tilal's fix seems to do a lot more than anyone else's so its a good result for the community. I'm back on FXP240 for now. I tried early build of Omni but it got me stuck in a bootloop for some reason. I had the bubbles boot screen and it just stopped there. When I tried to get back into recovery it wouldn't even do that so I ended up having to fastboot flash a new boot.img then my sdcard0 was corrupt so I had to adb push FXP240 back and it became annoying. Can't wait til the official omni nightly's start and i'll definitely be giving it a good once over. Don't mind the look of PACrom either that has a lot of customisation options if not a little too many. Hopefully Omni will be somewhere between CM and PAC in the end and we'll have a great all rounder to choose from.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
The fixes have been merged into mainline CM so you should see them appear in tomorrow's nightly (today's broke due to a silly error - recovery was changed but the local override file was not).

Bonus: thermal updates have been merged as well! Should make device less warm in general and improve performance under heavy loads.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Thanks a lot!

Wifi will be fixed too?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
I have no idea why wifi is broken and I can't go onto CM atm and it doesn't happen on Omni so no I haven't and can't fix wifi.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mdc1983uk:
Excellent news. If what YcKe says about Wifi works tomorrow when I test then I think I have a new daily 4.3.1 build. Everything else works ok and the Wifi i'm sure will be fixed 100% before long. As long as I can get on it to download nightly's i'm ok as i'm wanting to try Omni when that starts. Also PACrom I hope they pick up tilal's changes as that's another one i'd like to try properly.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] KelleyCook:
I'm at a conference today, so I can't download the Oct23 build, but I have a feeling that the 802.11w reversion in the changelog is going to fix the WiFi IP problem.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] efs12:
WiFi seems to work in Oct23
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Yeah same here!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tas0s:
Battery consumption is the same? Its still draining?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mdc1983uk:
Interesting build today then! Tilal is the man, he's got the top mic working, speakerphone sounds loud and without problems AT LAST!!! Also the audio level is ramped up so I can hear my music and phone ringing when in a noisy place just like stock. Is there seperate mic settings though mate for the speakerphone and in call without speakerphone? Cos I notice now its the top mic thats active when in call but not on speaker... Which is less than ideal as you want the bottom one active when phone is held to your ear for a call, and top one active when its on speaker. I can see someone now complaining that people on the other end can't hear them on a normal call cos they are talking into bottom mic and the top one is active - we could do with it being exactly the same as stock in this respect.

Either way this is a vast improvement over what we've had since August when someone just racked up the volume levels and left it whining. Wifi for me is not fixed either unless I implement Ycke's fix. I get authentication problem and no data flow unless I give the phone a static IP. I guess DHCP is broken somehow. This build is pretty damn stable though and i'll be sticking with it cos at least now I can rig the Wifi and download new nightly's without have to use CWM restore back to 4.3 just to download the most recent.

Cheers

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Not sure yet, i've only been using it a few hours and my battery was nearly dead when I downloaded it. Will unplug charger before I goto bed and see what % I have left in the morning with no usage. Tilal's 4.3 build and FXP240 it used to drain around 15-20% overnight just sitting there doing nothing. But then I don't have Wifi at home so there maybe some syncing and whatnot going on over the mobile network which uses more power than if connected to Wifi.

By the way the thermal policy seems to be spot on. I've charged from 4% upto 56% now in last hour or so and the phone is still COLD but charging just as fast. I turned on portable wifi hotspot to get on here and like the very back where the NFC reader is, its got slightly warm but not roasting like it used to when charging and in use at same time. This is very good for not killing the board/chip/battery in the case so a big thumbs up to that
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mdc1983uk:
OK we may have a problem. What I said yesterday about the bottom mic now not working has been noticed in development thread. It's a valid point, we've reversed the situation that was causing speakerphone issue and made it into a phone call issue. I wouldn't want to see tilal's fix reversed because of this but it needs a bit more work.

What we NEED is bottom mic to function when NOT on speakerphone call so people can hold phone to ear and talk normally. Then top mic to function when speakerphone is ON so it doesn't whine. Noise suppression i'm not even seeing it do much but it was like that on stock as well. In theory its not supposed to do anything on speakerphone just a normal call. The top mic should be picking up background noise and then subtracting that from the voice going into bottom mic before its sent over the network. This means the other party hears more of you and less background noise... in theory. I don't see how it can work correctly if only top mic is working though as that means bottom one would be picking up background noise instead and then we would have real problems as voice would then be suppressed and background noise enhanced.

I see there is a speakerphone tx device along with handset tx device and both had numbers changed as part of tilal's fix. But they don't seem to be what they say they are. I changed handset tx device back to way it was and left speakerphone and it but me back to only bottom mic working again. Is there anyway we can have the best of both worlds cos people aren't going to put up with having to talk with their phone upside down. But then I don't want to go back to low volume levels and no speakerphone. We've got so far now it's nearly right just needs a bit more time.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] efs12:
Appendix to Oct-23 Nightly

WiFi works basically, but not as stable as it should. It looses connection often or does not always automatically connect to a known network.

Handset gets warm, when loading with standard USB-port from laptop. Also screen is warm. It also takes very long to charge with usb-port. If screen is on, while charging with usb-port, it's nearly impossible to charge.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
is "snd_soc_msm_2x" the only file we need to fix the whine problem?

i wanna use it in tilal's cm10.1 build.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] efs12:
it seems that the microphones are invertet during a normal call in oct-23 nightly.

the other persons complain about low sound from my side. if you talk to the speaker on the top, the other person hears you much better.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
How about 25/10?

(I think I will stay with FXP240 untill a better release is out)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] harowa:
I also flashed FXP241, FXP242 and some nightlys (last: cm-10.2-20131024-NIGHTLY-mint). I found some problems with all of them I not have on FXP240. Okay, I phone rarely, but I am often outdoor by car or by bike and use teh mint as tracker and by car as drivers log. I need 3g and gps, at home I need wifi, sometimes hotspoots (outdoor), I can't need wifi problems.

Every time after flashing a new version I am back on FXP240 in short after I see or have problems I never had or have with FXP240.

After flashing FXP240 first time I have had some battery drain, but the drain is gone (not knowing why).

In my opinion, the FXP240 for mint is the most stable and fastest Android system my phone has "seen". There is really no reason for an update, of course I'll flash further releases again ;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Well, i think there are ROMs with significantly better battery life + FXP240 has the speakerphone whine (not that bothers me that much, just saying...). And I think phone's overall speed can get better.

Anyway, I am eagerly waiting for the first official OmniROM.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] grisu59964:
Because of the high battery drain I went back to 10.1.3-RC2 which is the best release to me so far. But I really hope the problems in 10.2 will be fixed soon.

What I realized about CM 10.1 and 10.2 is that the WIFI MAC address is not correct. Does anyone else have the MAC address 30:39:26:9f:ed:2e? When I switch to the stock firmware, it is correct.