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[Galaxy Note 3 General] sturmavik:
I found a way and here's the proof. Where's my money *****ez? I'm going to Dizneyland!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Dral29:
We got an Einstein over here... lol

Alphys Carbuccia

Sammy "The Note" 3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrate:
Omg... LOL

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] wEs.C:
hahaha ... this is awesome dude...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kevinrocksman:
-_- wow, ya no instead of everyone being negative and joking around how about we be serious and actually try to figure this out. I mean come on everyone said this cant be done and that cant be done but until you have tried every area you won't truthfully know until then. Until there is 100% proof saying that this does damage the hardware in some way that can't be repaired in some way shape or form how about we stop with the negativity. I know mods (who are literally on speed dial) and I won't be afraid to call upon them in times of hostility or negativity.

Anyways good idea, i have no money at this time but I'd probably donate when I did. Also for some reason I have this feeling samsung probably didn't implement a way to damage hardware because that would mean they would have to go through all the trouble to disassemble, unsolder then resolder a new chip in there to replace the "damaged" one so why would they want to do that? They would lose money in the long run.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
Troublesome signature :crying::crying::crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sonorus:
It's not quite as hopeless as you seem to think.

The bootloader contains odin mode, obviously. Any simple utilities for flashing the phones are going to be based on that, you could make odin-mode act like it's accepting a flash, but it actually keeps the same bootloader. (hence the 0x0 hack). They would then have to take it to emergency-flash-mode to flash the bootloader, but again, this might be modifiable to act like it accepts a flash, but actually does not. We've got a cat-and-mouse game going at this point - it's not economical for sammy to check anymore.

Catch is, again, you have to deal with secureboot. It makes it infeasible for the common non-jtagger. Not to mention it would probably require in-house knowledge of the samsung bootchain.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mano1982:
You need to improve your photoshop-abilities, man :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] neoKushan:
Nothing is impossible given enough resources, but none of what you're saying will really help much as soon as Samsung catches wind of it. All they have to do is flash a kind-of "debug" mode with bright pink screens everywhere and if suddenly one screen remains black, they'll know and the jig will be up. The cat-and-mouse strategy isn't going to work there, especially as Samsung just has to monitor this forum and we've given the game away.

Again, I've said this before but our best avenue is to force Samsung to actually provide warranty repairs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sIpInWiT mYdRoId:
Not trying to sound like a know it all, & this might of already been said. This whole Knox thing has to be able to be reversed back to 0x0. The reason being. Samsung has to be expecting to receive 1000s of these phones back that have the counter at 0x1. They have to have some type of way to reset the counter back to 0x0 otherwise where are all the refurbished phones going to come from. What would they do with a perfectly good working phone, well perfectly good to them, that they can easily fix if it has the counter set to 0x1. I doubt they are just going to trash the thing instead of just fixing it then setting the counter back to 0x0 & sending it out as a refurb. & the reason i say all this is because i don't know about everyone else but when i have an issue with my phone t-mobile always sends me a new or refurbished phone before i even send my phone back to them. & im sure there are many people out there willing to bullcrap T-Mobile about the condition their phone is in to get the refurbed or new phone from them before they send theirs in hoping that t-mobile will bypass looking at the Knox counter and getting a 160 dollar charge on their next bill for it being tripped. So what will be done with these phones when T-Mobile or Samsung gets them? there will be 1000's of them & thats why i have the thought that their has to be some type of way to reset the counter. Even if it has to do with changing something on the board that's is holding the knox counter in it, then were all just going to have to up our rooting & flashing game to the next level & learn how to replace whatever holds this knox counter in it on our hardware & just evolve to a new way of doing things. Hope everyone kinda gets what im saying.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Neog2:
Hmm

So I have access to official Samsung Flashing hardware and software but nothing to flash yet to see if their official flashing hardware and software triggers the counter.

I got my note 3's day one. Verizon and Sprint versions no contract no insurance.

Now I don't know if what I have access to is the same stuff they use in house but it is official and I have seen bricked phones recovered on these machines. Not bricked Note 3's but I have seen Note 2's original Notes, and Galaxy S3's unbricked.

I can provide pictures of the software and we can attempt some flashes once some updates.

Not sure if I outside files are accepted though from my understanding and I don't know how true this is just yet files are not stored locally but are downloaded as needed from a central server in preparation for flashing. I'll find out about that tidbit tomorrow.

I don't own the machine nor do I work for Samsung I just have access periodically so hopefully some of these questions can be answered. With the bit of access I have.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] valix2fr:
cool

Hello. You'd be a great person if you could get a picture of the software and if you can give us some information about Their technique. Thank you to you.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dehaani:
That's my inclination too.

I would suspect a single e-fuse would be too crude a measure. It would make far more sense to tie the stock bootloader to flag knox after the first e-fuse trips. If the device needs refurbished, then flash a new bootloader that will only flag Knox after the second e-fuse trips and so on.

I'd also bet if this is the case, it still wouldn't be anywhere near as simple as flashing a bootloader. I'd bet there's some cryptographic verification involved in reinstating Knox warranty.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
I have the MJ3 Bootloader installed. My flag 0x1.

I made a Bootloader-MJ3-N9005.tar.md5 whit this files:

aboot.mbn

rpm.mbn

sbl1.mbn

sdi.mbn

tz.mbn

Flashed by Odin 3.09 well. My flag continue 0x1.

If we look on attach, this bootloader flashed must be only the Secondary One Secure Boot, and the flag must be fused on Hardware Primary Bootloader.

What You think?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrate:
What I think?: find an exploit in bootloader to trick the KNOX thing (trigger). But that won't be easy at all. Hardware hackers may be required for that. Team #f0f - addicted to game consoles - may could do that. But that's just speculation.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] alexpowermetal:
After rooting with towelroot knox : 0x0, status: Official. But if you install Xposed framework it'll change your status to custum. Somebody reported by us-installing Xposed your status will go back to official.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jvidia:
Too confusing .... does it work on international model or not? Anyone tried?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Spere:
Does what work on what international model?

This thread is for bounty to reset KNOX flag. So far if I'm right, it can be done only on some exynos based models(?)

If you are talking about root, this ain't right thread to talk about it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] armanderli:
Care To look...Please

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] colliderz:
Knox was 0. Stock rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mmaxx:
Worked on my SM-N9005. Android version 4.4.2 Kernel 3.4.0-636608!!!

KNOX 0x0

towelroot v2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aopvet:
Hey guys stop meshing up the thread with this rooting method. It is totally different from reverting the knox flag back to 0x0.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] poyda69:
If upgrading/ downgrading a ROM (boot loader) trips the Knox how do Samsung do it when you send your phone in for repair?

When i sent my S4 in for repair it came back with a "Newer" ROM and Boot loader!!!!!!

There must be a way not to trip it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FlanjeUK:
You can UPGRADE without tripping it, you just can't downgrade...

EDIT: Using Odin and a STOCK ROM ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] poyda69:
<br />

You can UPGRADE without tripping it, you just can't downgrade...<br/>

So I can update my NE1 stock rom with a custom NE4 rom?

I think I know what the answer will be but I have to ask to confirm.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aopvet:
You can upgrade your stock with a newer stock one through odin.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Freeddi:
Can you give me please a Link with Files?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FlanjeUK:
http://towelroot.com
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Freeddi:
Thanks but i mean to reset knox Counter to 0x0 i have 0x1
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ramsenn:
Is there any develoeprs who is breaking the code to reset knox? or have the time stopped?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Freeddi:
What for a Time you mean?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xinfinityoO:
can people stop talking about freaking ROOT on this thread... its is about RESETING KNOX.. go make a thread about ROOT and talk in that
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zaid.khot3112:
Successful !!

Everyone , a senior member named RuchRha has successfully made back knox to 0x0 and also downgraded from kitkat to jellybean but only FOR EXYNOS devices. Please check the link which i am providing .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2642207&page=8
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pRo_lama:
Everybody knows that Exynos can be reseted.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] terrord8158:
Any method to do so, please? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] u1988:
So any way to Reset KNOX counter to 0x0 ?

Are we close / far away ? :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] My1xT:
dont ask just wait, asking wont make it come sooner...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Did anyone find out how to reset KNOX on Exynos for Note 2? Perhaps, a change in the code to modify the bootloader.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Daved+:
Changing the code is the problem because of the signatures so it can't be done so far and btw this thread is about Note 3.

Sent from my SM-N900T
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Ah, so you are saying if signatures changes the KNOX flag will remain at 0x1 because it detects changes in the bootloader and firmwares flashed. Interesting. I recently wanted to return to STOCK 4.1.2 official after updating to 4.3 and that tripped my flag.

I was also contemplating the idea to get my phone fixed to because I thought tripping the flag does physical damage to my phone. I am reading for all models, but seeing it being reset for the Note 3 reassures me somewhat. Still I will wait someone to find a solution for the N7100. There is still the Qualcomm version left it seems.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pRo_lama:
In this thread you can find tutorial how to reset KNOX on N900. ;) Because this is Note 3 thread, not Note 2. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] terrord8158:
Agreed, this is indeed a Note 3 thread.. Though we have one single common enemy: SAMSUNG KNOX. I am just looking for signs of hope. ANYWHERE! :)

---------- Post added at 08:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:43 AM ----------

by the way, here's some enlighting and promessing piece of info for both NOTE II and NOTE III and other Galaxy models:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f672/regarding-knox-s4-1775213/

I am a noob, totally; i don't understand Devs gibberish. Would some kind Dev make a Tutorial out of it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Daved+:
It pretty much says (about the GS4) that, because of the way this info is stored, you can wipe or replace the eMMC chip on the Exynos models to get rid of the knox flag (and downgrade the BL as well) but you cannot clear the knox flag on the Snapdragon models (you can only downgrade the BL). That's not good news for the ones waiting for a knox reset on the Snapdragon models :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] terrord8158:
Indeed, I am sorry to hear that about Snapdragons. I thought they were better than Exynos in ever aspect! But placing/Activating an eFuse was a fishy move from Samsung. It tought me to never trust any future update!!

Now, when you say wipe the eMMC, how can one achieve such a maneuver?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bl!GhT:
More than half a year later we are still on Guessimating solutions with no progress. Samsung did pack a punch this time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Daved+:
Well, you can say Snapdragon is better than Exynos security side because they cannot be reseted :rolleyes:

To wipe the eMMC:

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f67...bit-0-solution-inside-first-ih-world-1776265/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
True, but there is a question ethics. Do you think it is correct to implement security for the sake of taking away the rights of its users (aka root)? Imho, no, because security is meant to protect users from harm by not taking the rights away from the users in the first place. Android was built from Linux and Linux as all knows, stands for freedom.

Anywho, I did a little reading. To sum up, Exynos devices uses a software implementation to store the KNOX flag in a secured area in emmc (RPMB) and can be rewritten if given proper access (SHA256 algorithm key).

Snapdragon use BOTH hardware (Qfuse) and software (emmc location) to verify the KNOX flag. But once the Qfuse is blown, forever stays and software can be used to verify it once again that it is 0x1. The only way to get it to 0x0 is (mobo replacement or) by masking it with software but will return if set software is erased. This is bad news.

I have one with an Exynos CPU, and want to try wiping the emmc but in order to do that I need a special Jtag correct? I don't have one of those...:eek:

The one you posted works for only S4?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lst24:
A little OT about security reasons. But in sud Korea and other esynox countries security is not important?

Why only other countries should have their rights limited by an hardware system?

I think that ALL functions and the GUI in a software should be free modifiable by user settings eventually protected by password or other more secure methods.

For my opinion that should be the really Open Source Smartphone/tablet.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] terrord8158:
My question is: Would it be possible to use just USB to wipe eMMC for the Note 2 and Note 3?

You see, I am total noob in the field; when you talk JTAGS, it scares the s@#t out of me :D

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pRo_lama:
NO, it's not possible via USB.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Ist24, you are right. Imo, KNOX does nothing to really help the system, as far as I can see. Increase RAM usage, system slow down, I thought it even deletes the Supersu program I had installed without my permission once. I can see Samsung's point in trying to protect its devices from being tampered with, but preventing downgrades of official ROM because of better usability/ forced upgrades? Too much, begone KNOX! Back to the matter at hand...

I see your point. I am in the same situation. Why should you take a fully functioning device apart just to reset the KNOX flag, right? Unfortunately, there is no way to wipe the emmc without JTAG as you need direct communication with the chip. But! In theory there is a way to reset the KNOX flag without using JTAG. Again I will be speaking on Exynos models, as Qfuse leaves a scar on Snapdragon devices and is a long-shot to solve if at all, so for those of you with such devices ending with 05, keep that flag 0x0 at all costs! Bear with me and please do correct me if I am wrong as I am also learning.

Look back at RuchRha's solution (I really want to know how this is done), all that is required is "sboot.bin" and "param.bin" flashed through USB to reset the flag. Why? My speculation tells me sboot.bin contains the key. It contains the correct hexadecimal signatures accepted to allow rewriting of RPMB, and therefore the KNOX flag. Code can be injected into sboot to rewrite the flag but signatures somehow must not change. This is something I think the intelligent developers here can do. (Dump, analyze and exploit sboot) Signatures are different for all Exynos devices S3, S4, Note 3. Now we only have the note 3 fix.

But with this I think we can attempt to reset flags and even unlock bootloaders across all devices. Users who are looking to reset the flag, I do not encourage to update further ie. to 4.4.2 as the KNOX version is also increased and algorithms change. I must plead developers to attempt to fix Note 2 and S4 as well, and revert them to versions of former glory. For this I will be eternally grateful. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] terrord8158:
Great news Su77. Now what we need sboot.bin and param.bin for Note 2 GT-N7100 to unlock the BL, reset flag, and DOWNGRADE back to JB 4.1.2

I really wanna see my phone happy again :(

But hey, I love Exynos! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
I think you misunderstand. Downgrading on a locked bootloader will re-trip KNOX flag even when fixed, I think lol. If you don't care for KNOX being 0x1, I think it is quite easy to do. Sorry this is getting OT so I will speak downgrading in relation to the KNOX flag in general devices. This is still a Note 3 thread. ;) To downgrade to say... 4.1.2 I tested:

DO NOT TRY THIS, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED this is only testing...

1.) Flash custom recovery by PC Odin (CWM or TWRP) <-- THIS WILL VOID KNOX 0x1 if not already.

2.) Use Dr.Ketan's tool (courtesy of Dr.Ketan) to allow root and purge KNOX.

3.) Backup efs

4.) Supersu can now be installed along with Mobile Odin to allow privileged access.

5.) Flash ROM (say 4.1.2) with Mobile Odin

6.) Restore efs <-- Discovered that is incorrect, instead, need to restore modem. (Seldom, need to restore efs)

7.) Clean up flash count with Triangle Away.

You will get a familiar interface back and working. I think this version did improve battery life and the phone appeared less sluggish than 4.3. Strangely, Mobile Odin works because I think with root access it can ignore the locked KNOX bootloader, and downgrade anyway. However, interestingly the KNOX bootloader will recognize old ROM (dispite being official) as Custom ROM and will disable system upgrades from Samsung I suspected. Returning to 4.3 is easy and can be flashed directly by PC Odin as the KNOX bootloader ALLOWS this.

So, my main goal here is not to reset the KNOX flag per se (as a head start), but get help unlocking the KNOX bootloader for smoother operation like the older BLs. This is what XDA is known for.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Daved+:
[MENTION=5916854]Sudo77[/MENTION], any ideas on flashing a new rom on an older bootloader on the note3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
I don't fully understand your question. (I can't help you much as I dont have a note 3, but may get one in the future to test). Are you going to flash custom rom or stock? .The bootloader on the Note 3 ships with 4.3 so it can't be that old. Hmm, according to your signature, you have Note 3 from T-mobile which is SM9005... Snapdragon alert, I wouldn't touch your bootloader with a quill feather lol.

As I stated, the Knox BL will reject anything that doesnt have a correct key for matching its signatures. Old official roms, custom roms, custom recovery, JTAG access(?) and even if it is flash-able without "Unsupported Version" error, will trip Knox. The risks are stated, now, if you still decide to flash or already have 0x1, continue; procedures still extremely risky. You can't just flash roms simply with Odin like the good old days regardless of Knox flag:

Paste link section at the end of .com (I cant post links yet, postcount too low)

1.) You need to find a way to root (safely if Knox is un-tripped)

2.) Always backup efs partition for IMEI which may not get rebuilt because of KNOX (big problems if corrupt or lost)

3.) You can flash roms using Mobile Odin. It is how you flash within a locked bootloader. New version for KitKat is out. Read here: "showthread.php?t=2583199"

(The older your BL the less secure it is, so I suspect it is better) Edit: I see you talk of upgrades, I think still disabled, new ROM is still foreign to BL but I haven't tried.

4.) You can return to Official Rom by directly flashing it with PC Odin (accepted). Although Beware! Some people report if you mix model or CSC Knox trips. (Safest way is using Kies Recovery)

For me, I am going to use a similar method to revert my note 2 to 4.1.2 and disregard KNOX. Not like, the KNOX container will ever work on that version anyway. This is good enough for me, my research rest here.

Finally:

Might I suggest you get a Nexus as your next phone if you like flashing? I hear they are bootloader friendly. Knox is Samsung's future so its not going to be the free-st device on the Market. This issue is like the freaking Windows 8 Secureboot, doesnt allow you to downgrade willingly. KitKat also has SD permission restrictions which dont allow apps to write on SD card. As you can see technology is loosing its freedom more and more everyday. For a person who loves technology and see it trend this way, this is very disheartening. Our hopes lies in the developers.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] My1xT:
nexus have problems of their own, like no microSD and fixed battery...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Yes, strengths of Samsung. But in life you can't have it all. Decide wisely. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] My1xT:
Well when you can use kingo on Droid 4.3 MJ3, and stay knox-0, then I'll choose that gladly, coz xposed rocks

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Skander1998:
Just a small update guys, part of Knox is being implemented in Android L. Yes stock android will now have part of Knox as stated by a deal between Google and Samsung.

Hooray.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] My1xT:
Let's see it positive, when it's a part of L, then more ppl will move towards checking knox out, which on the other hand means that there's a higher probability of it to be lifted, if it's possible

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Interesting, I still prefer a device with NO locked BL permanently. Why go through so much trouble.

You must be joking, and not a moment too soon. lol What did I tell you? Now all Android versions will be affected. Woe is me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lwg45714:
I wasn't aware the Atrixs bootloader couldn't be unlocked? Mine is certainly unlocked and there is a tool to unlock all versions that I am aware of, a one click one at that. Enlighten me..

I don't even own a Samsung, just happened to stumble across this while searching. Wow so much for open source huh? I was actually a fan of samsung until I heard of this knox nonsense. Ill'd be so mad to have such a nice phone and it be locked down.

Put me down for $10 to help the cause. Who knows I may get one IF this issue is solved, notice the BIG IF there. lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RuggedHunter:
Whether you own a Samsung today or not, it looks like you will be affected one way or another in the future...

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/06/25...egrate-knox-into-androids-next-major-release/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Don't think it has to be difficult to solve, if its not for the heavy encryption surrounding the bootloader. I learned there are some useful features of KNOX, such as active directory management (SSO) and data protection within the container. However, some data is collected uh-oh. :eek:

If you want to learn more, have a look at this video, quite interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WokfeVqozy8

Location of KNOX flag lies here (Page 4):

http://www.slideshare.net/linaroorg/intro-to-emmc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mirkocon995:
Still do not know anything to reset this counter knox?