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[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
V4A has a new update:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48235205

It seems the jury is still out on whether it works with Android 4.4.1

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I've been using the Kernel that comes with Tempest so I'm wondering if any Tempest users switch to an alternate Kernel and why.

I'm interested in general comments but also specifics such as:

Which alternate Kernel are you using with Tempest?

What are the must have features that the alternate Kernel provides?

Does it work well with ART as well as Dalvik?

How is its overall stability?

Are you sacrificing stability for specific features and if so which features?

Is it a better performer and if so what settings do you use?

If you tweak the Kernel settings are you doing so with an app (name the app)?

How is battery life (general impressions or even better stats)?

Thanks
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
No OmniROM projects have a 4.4.1 branch, so I'll update our V4A while I'm working on Tempest today.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2558177

Saw this today. Still trying to figure out why mine doesn't work.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Interesting and it may save you some effort.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Or help me figure out wtf isn't working with mine :D I may just use that instead. I'll test it later w/ the new build. I seem to have broke my local gits and repo's... Again.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Spoken like a true developer "If it ain't broke you haven't tweaked it enough" ;)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
To tell the whole truth, I've been a bit lax lately, been relaxing due to work stuff and needing some time off, but I have still been researching/coming up with ideas.

Now that my brief break is over, its back to work. Well, not work, but hobby, since I don't consider things I enjoy to be "work", per se. Well, more of labor. I don't consider it to be labor. But that's getting into philosophy there.

Already fixed my breakages. :p
[Nexus 10 Android Development] sttovo:
Lax? You do more with Android ROM development before 9AM than most of us do in a year :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] bruce7373:
Great work! I have Omni on my N4 and was hoping to find a version for N10. Also real nice that V4A is included. I was surprised to find XHiFi though. How does that work? I didn't think they could coexist. Do they use different drivers?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Curses to using the computer I'm building on to respond. lol It keeps clicking teh wrong things.

They can co-exist. FX affects system-wide audio. XHiFi affects playback of compressed audio (Play Music, Apollo, etc.). I've had them both for as long as I can remember.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
[MENTION=4672837]dibblebill[/MENTION]

I just committed https://gerrit.omnirom.org/#/c/3418/

So if you want volume wake then cherry pick this one also

And If you want to mess with TWRP then try this one:

https://gerrit.omnirom.org/#/c/3421/
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Thanks. I'll consider both. I got an error right now after fixing a stupid one on Grouper. A new error.

"device out of space". Might be time to ask for a new hard drive this Christmas. Hoping for 1TB. My current build drive is only 80GB...

So I'm working on this build. I'll be testing a addons.d fix with it, hopefully.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] harvey186:
Thanks for that ROM. I have installed it on my Nexus 10 and it works fine. And I love the split screen feature.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
8th December

-OmniROM updated to 4.4.1

-Transparent navbars and stuff (finally)

-Did not update V4A, did and should have fixed addons.d

-Various Omni updates in Settings

-Repatched latest MultiWindow cherrypicks

After testing, THIS GApps package does everything mine would've. I'm recommending this after testing it on my device, and not going to bother doing one myself until necessary. I'd like to get m yGrouper build working (and I've got a 1TB HDD incoming for Christmas so I'll be expanding Tempest then ;) ).

EDIT: I dirty flashed from the 1205 build and it works fine for me, using the new GApps package I linked. Additionally... Holy HELL is the transparency GORGEOUS.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Cwm reporting syntax error and won't flash. I'll re download and try again.

Edit... Same thing. Syntax error, aroma config line 251 column 13.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Just a little confused, is V4A working on the Tempest 4.4.1 release? If yes are you using the latest V4A version or the one that was included with the Tempest 1205 build?

Thanks
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Dreammaster:
same here Syntax Error in line 251 Col 13 .....Status 1 Installation aborted... using CWM 6.0.4.5
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Same issue with the latest TWRP.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Same as 1205.

I broke the AROMA script. I will fix it and reupload as soon as possible. Shows me for fixing a script issue before uploading and not checking it :p

Sent from my Nexus 10

EDIT: The fix is uploading. I'll post when its done.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
Nightlies are coming.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
I tried the one you just posted and got the same result. :(
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
The one that just uploaded a few minutes ago? It should be a new file now.

EDIT: Found the issue. Re-uploading again XP Sorry about that
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Downloading the one you uploaded at 605. Will report back.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] stiggy2012:
Latest upload is working great, including the translucent bars. I dirty flashed over the 05.12 build, and had to reinstall gapps (slimcat) afterwards. All seems to be running great now though, there even looks to be some improvements in multiwindow! :good:
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Working awesome! Flashed over 12/1.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Yes flash great but I just found out that MX Player does not accept android 4.4.1, reporting incompatible version. Just have to watch Net fix until that's fixed:'(
[Nexus 10 Android Development] cdsbj6508:
I can't find the SU zip.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Don't need one. Just say "yes" during installation

Sent from my Nexus 10

Edit: Craziness. Multiwindow lets me Youtube whilst working
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
Just for the record. Manta OmniRom nightlies have arrived ;) see http://dl.omnirom.org/manta
[Nexus 10 Android Development] _Raziel666:
Thanks to everyone that made nightlies a possibility! :D

Edit: seems translucent status/navigation bar isn't enabled on official nightlies! :(
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Anyone aware of any difference between this and the official nighties? Right now I can't think of a reason to switch. ?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] _Raziel666:
[MENTION=4672837]dibblebill[/MENTION]: I can't possibly know what changes you've made to the OmniROM source code in your releases, but would you be kind enough to merge them on the official nightlies as well?

Today's (first) nightly doesn't have the translucent navigation/status bar for example. Thanks in advance! :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
I'll try. As for differences, just the stuff in the bullet points.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
If I have YouTube up in multi window, it pauses while working i. The second window.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Yeeeeah, I realized that this morning myself. Premature nerdgasm.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
Be aware that changes in the common repositories, such as the framework repositories, have to be device independent. These changes have to work on all the supported devices.

The fact that the first nightly does not support the translucent navigation/statusbar is because it is disabled on the framework overlay. And i guess it was done for a reason.

It should be tested. I will see if I can make a build soon to test it out.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
It's already "true" in the device-independent framework. People here have been reporting no performance loss with it enabled- I haven't seen any issues, I'll give it a few days of testing before attempting to make sure I don't have a time bomb on my hands.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
I know. This global setting is overruled in the device overlay by Google I think (I did not change that overlay setting).
[Nexus 10 Android Development] stiggy2012:
I too was worried that performance would suffer with translucency enabled, with the logic being Google must have disabled this on the N10 for good reason.

However I've put a good 2-3 hours use on my tablet since the latest update (and ~14 hours standby time) and I haven't noticed any slow down of the GEL launcher at all. :good:
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Try an alternate YouTube app call Viral I am typing this post in one window while the other is playing a Youtube video.

I originally used this app because it has a play in background feature but recently I'm having issues with the stock YouTube app. Inexplicably videos stopping part way through with no way to continue playback. Viral has no such issues.

I am using the free version but may buy it now, in respect for the developers. The background play feature is great for music but I use it for tech podcasts.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] ikenvape:
Hey bill, in no way this is a complaint, it's just for a heads up. The standby time was putting on a beating. 8 min screen time and a random reboot. Here is all BBS is showing me.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
How do you mean? Is it rebooting 8 minutes into going into standby?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] ashwin1234:
Does this ROM have customisable quick settings tiles? like the ability to change what tiles and number and what not.

Thanks
[Nexus 10 Android Development] MeteoricYCX:
I'm not with the latest build, and it didn't have the feature in the build I'm currently on. But you can use Xposed and gravity box to achieve this feature.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
Interesting as I was going to looking into Xposed and Gravity box but thought I read it was targetted at root stock and/or AOSP. So good to know, thanks.

Just re- checked the Gravity box 4.4 XDA link and read "DO NOT USE WITH CUSTOM ROMS LIKE CM,AOSPA,ROOTBOX,AOKP,SLIM, OMNI AND THEIR OTHER CLONES... IT MAKES NO SENSE AND CAN CAUSE CONFLICTS AND UNEXPECTED BEHAVIOUR" with OMNI directly named.

Probably give it a try anyway after a nandroid backup.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] scanno:
Translucency now enabled by default (upstream).
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
I'm shooting you a PM with a question re: translucency on the N10 scanno.

I see 4.4.2 is out. I'm working on a treat that 3DSammy gave me the idea for. I think you guys will like this. It involves the install process.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] ikenvape:
Sorry, I'm still familiarizing with htc's keyboard. Its not great with punctuation and I was up late.

Basically it was just bad battery drain on standby, a reboot when taking a screenshot, and another when browsing on chrome. I was running the gapps you solely test on, but other than that. I haven't done anything different from the standard routine of use.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Odd. Can you get me the last_kmsg so I can try to see what is causing the reboots?

Did you come from another nightly? If so, which one?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Works great here.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Next build may be ready tonight, if I understand my edify scripts properly and this works... I think you guys will like what 3DSammy got me into ;)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] ikenvape:
Absolutely, just give me time to flashback, from what I noticed, when idling with Wi-Fi off, the standby was a dream.. I'll hang back for your probable build to see if the issue is irrelevant.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
10th December

-Slimmed down the AROMA script and files by removing what I felt were excess themes

-AROMA should now give you the option to save your install settings and languages, potentially cutting out 3+ taps of your install process

-Synced all Omni sources

-Resynced the MultiWindow patches

-Cleaned up some install issues

-Moved some scripts from Omni itself to the AROMA installer (they still install by default)

-Finally got the daggon md5 files working...

I forgot a changelog in the zip file itself, but I don't feel like cancelling my upload NOW to fix it. It'll be in the next one.

Pre-post edit: AROMA does NOT currently remember its settings. Investigation into this is ongoing. I've also noticed some peculiarities about Launcher3/GEL that I haven't had the opportunity to further test. I do seem to have lost my home page and such, though. If anybody else has any strange Launcher3/GEL occurences, please let me know.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] fredryk:
How stable is this ROM? I need something that works but the multi window is very, very appealing to me.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
The ROM is very stable. The multi window function will get there in time.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] R3Map:
Backup & Restore

Does anyone else have the issue when doing a factory wipe on tempest, that the apps and settings don't restore once you have entered your gmail and password? Is this a googlebackuptransport.apk issue?

When I go to settings, Backup & Reset, the backup account is grayed out and it says "Backing up to debug-only private cache"

I am using the latest Tempest ROM and Famigo's GAPPS
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
I have not seen that behavior. I'll try to test it on mine this afternoon.

Found this post on the topic:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1542115&page=32

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28677-rom-jdx-v152-09052013-jb-43aosp-its-all-about-the-butter/page-1705
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
I second what newellj79 wrote. Tempest has been my daily-driver ROM for several weeks and reliable enough that I advertise the fact in my XDA signature (see below). You should also read the comments on OMNI's future features which will naturally be incorporated in this ROM in the fullness of time.

The future OMNI "multi-workspace" feature has me drooling (even over split-view), as I'm a huge fan of multi-workspaces on my Linux desktop. It would come in very handy when doing development and testing let alone many other scenarios.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] R3Map:
I tried the rootzwiki method and it still won't work, I do however see that I am not the only one experiencing this:

http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/4-4-omni-find-5.7113/page-48 :eek:

I have infected sabermod CM11 running on my S2, using the GApps he recommends and backuptransport works 100% on CM11. I tried the same GApps from Infected OP on this ROM and still won't restore.

Seems to be an Omni issue?

It's not a train smash as I use Titanium and make PLENTY nandroids
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
The last few updates HAVE done loads for MultiWindow, that being said.

I think I know where the AROMA persistance issue lies, so I may try to fix it tonight.

Did manually installing that backup service help you out?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] bruce7373:
You'll have trouble with Xposed/GB and Omni (at least there is on N4) wrt Quick Settings tiles. Just take a peek at the GB thread. And, believe me, those guys are sick of hearing about it, lol.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] MeteoricYCX:
I'm currently using it without trouble. What is the trouble you are talking about?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] bruce7373:
Don't know about this ROM, but with the official Omni on N4 any manipulation of the default tiles and layout messes them up after reboot and/or update (blank tiles, 0% battery). This necessitates disabling GB, clearing data, re-enabling (with reboots in between), and starting from scratch again. If you can live without Wi-Fi, data, location & battery tiles, the other features are still worth it, imo.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] cien12:
Does Xposed Framework works now with enabled ART Runtime?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] R3Map:
Nope

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No, I have tried a number of methods as follows:

1st method:

1. Factory reset

2. format /system

3. install latest tempest omni 4.4

4. install Famigo's latest GApps

5. go through account setup

no go

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2nd method:

1. removed googletransportbackup.apk from Famigo's GApps

2. Factory reset, format /system, install tempest omni 4.4, install Famigo's GApps (without the backup apk)

3. go through account setup

4. manually install googletransportbackup.apk, reboot

no go

____________________________________________________________________________________________

3 method:

1. Factory reset

2. format /system

3. install latest tempest omni 4.4

4. install latest core GApps from infected_ CM11 (https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ralbb57843g9g/4.4.1) as the backuptransport works with these Gapps on CM11

5. go through account setup

no go

____________________________________________________________________________________________

Funny thing is, if I dirty flash the latest omnirom from http://dl.omnirom.org/manta/ (on method 1 with Famigo's GApps) over tempest 4.4, after reboot a notification comes up asking me to select an account to backup to, and the backup & restore works.

Any ideas?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
None, as of yet. I've been at work and unable to properly research.

Curious. What happens if you do the opposite? Come from Omni, dirty flash to Tempest using method 1?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] shaker2k:
Ot here. Bill your pretty much one of my favorite developers, maintainers, cooks etc. Do you have any plans on getting a nexus 5?

Would love to run your Omni on the 10 and 5!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Right now, wiht my finances, only if I get a really good deal. I have 2-3 things on my to-do list that are waiting for better financial days. As well as my Galaxy Victory treats me, no need to replace it.

Now, I intend to release a Grouper/Tilapia build, and perhaps one for the Hammerhead once some issues for it are worked out, once I get my new hard drive in a couple weeks. Right now, I literally cannot build for more than one device. Attempting a Grouper build left me with 200.6kb of HDD space left :D

Working out some script errors atm, folks, that were pointed out to me.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] 3DSammy:
UPDATE: The issue described below is NOT Tempest ROM related. It was caused by using a USB Ethernet adapter while still having WiFi enabled. Turning WiFi off resolved the video playback issue.

Are there any Netflix users running this ROM?

I ask as since the 4.4.1 upgrade I've seen random video glitches when watching Netflix (latest version from Playstore). I've subscribed to Netflix for a little over two months and run it while back on Purity 4.3.1 ROM and now 4.4.1 Tempest, but started seeing random playback glitches with NetFlix.

I don't think this is an issue with Tempest and am more inclined to think this is a 4.4.1/Netflix issue. The glitches are infrequent and far enough apart that Netflix is still watchable. Previously, outside of the occassional buffering delay, Netlix was an almost perfect experience on my Nexus 10. Certainly better than YouTube.

YouTube video playback with Viral does not have said glitches. MX Player is currently D.O.A (incompatible) with 4.4.1 so I can't cross reference with that video player.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen the same issue and could confirm it is 4.4.(1 or 2) related.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] bruce7373:
I'm curious, is anyone having trouble connecting to G+? I can't with Omni on my N4. I'm just wondering if it's device specific (don't have this ROM installed at the moment).
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Nope, opens for me.

Expect a changelog before midnight, EST...
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
11th December

-Installer persistence sort of works now. It saves the prop files. Restoring them is something I'll have working in the next release.

-Latest Omni sources

-Corrected some errors in the install script, hopefully avoid errors with addons.d

-Post-mortem changelong in zip file :p
[Nexus 10 Android Development] R3Map:
Just finished loading omni and then dirty flashing tempest; when installing omni from scratch with Famigo's GApps everything works fine i.e. the backup & reset. When I dirty flash tempest over omni and reflash famigo's the backup & reset breaks again. Really odd, it's as if googlebackuptransport.apk lib is not talking to the framework allowing the user to select a backup account.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] x3nophobia:
Hi, I would like to try your ROMs, coming from pa 3.99. Is tb working while restoring app data on your ROM?thanks
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Targaeryan:
Hey! Are you gonna attempt compiling with sabermod toolchain or linaro for added butterness? :p just asking :angel:

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Yes it is.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Has been for me.

I've considered it. I, personally, have never noticed differences in stability or performance while using the linaro-based apps. Never tried the sabermod ones.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Targaeryan:
Sabermods supposedly smoother and better than linaro. I'm using a ROM on my n4 compiled with sm toolchain and its definitely buttery that's for sure.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] SkiRacer2144:
Lockscreen widget size

Hello, Excellent ROM. I feel like my Nexus 10 flys now. I came from AOKP Buttered Manta and had a lock screen question. When I was on AOKP, my lock screen seemed much larger. I was able to see my Dashclock in its entirety. Now since installing OmiRom, My dashclock widget scrolls, and the pattern unlock smaller as well. Is there any way to make the lock screen widgets larger? I read a few posts that it might have to do with the DPI, but nothing specific to this rom.

Thanks!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
I'll look into a DPI adjustment, but per-app DPI is a nightmare w/ some of Omni's features.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] SkiRacer2144:
Thanks! Other than that, your rom rocks!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Is anyone aware of a way to have the notification light come on even when the screen is on?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Lightflow, maybe

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Android Development] ComRaider:
Excelent ROM, waiting for 4.4.2 ??
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Can't get it to work right. I love the custom led color for notification that this ROM has built in. Its almost a must for me in ROM choice. I just wish it could be set to still come on when the screen is on. I've tried light flow and it doesn't display the custom color, it just blinks white. Thanks though. This ROM rocks.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Leoisright:
KOT49E is 4.4.2.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
Strange. I'm using Lightflow right now :S This is worth investigating.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
I'll take another look right now. I assume u don't have any custom colors enabled in omni natively then...
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
No, I also use its custom per-app sound function. I have never had luck with in-ROM light settings. So I don't use it.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] newellj79:
Do you have root mode or direct mode checked in light flow settings?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dibblebill:
I am NOT using Direct mode, I AM using Root mode, and I have it enabled for notification access in Security settings.

EDIT: Also working on a fix for that whole "Tempest remembers your install settings" thing, so if you hit 'yes' on the 1211 build, don't delete that Tempest directory it made ;)