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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
To administration.

I dont belevie it who get donation for knox 0x0 for N3. His write and sciensc it on another device who get new boot loader block and no who hlget from production we.

He editer post 4 times after i write sugest what work....... its not fair. But its us decision donating post from another (time zone with bug). I was write long description how to. And he was cut all to two answer. With second acc. Good. I edit next post 3 times and stil heve later date than he. Also he editing post in my time over 1 hour ago. My last edit was 17 +1 east europe.

Next he developed all with new kernell its from 4.3 jb next version also we buy stock mj1 with 4.3 first edit kernel (no libs lte....)

Than this method worked an some device because new version note 3 have nevest kernell.

If you want overwrite kernell to old than you must delete all certifiked too unlock all enable freature and install full new stock firmware. With software, modem, kernel and boot and csc.... that i mean it really hard to find. And we have answer why some people have 0x1 and back with first stock 0x0 its not motherboard its only some chips included and install firmware stock to run first time kernel with knoxmode in only Note 3.... why some receivd it? Because he give it repair into hardware and back first soft because maybe it broke with new soft.... and you update self all with security cert....

However its realluly easy i dont belevie it because i was only read 2 days docu
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Beefvvl:
Arymanik are you using google translate or some translator?

For the life of me I can't even understand 99% of what you wrote in here. :eek:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
I am confused! Did Arymanik figure it out? I habe been trying to decipher what he has been saying, but I am lost!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Beefvvl:
Forrealz man. Even his editing notes I can't decipher lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
It seems like he is saying he figured it out and posted it and someone else is trying to take credit. Like you though I can't figure out which way is up lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chrisrotolo:
What I deciphered from that garbled wall-0-text, was he mentioned force shutting down all apps and system, possibly unmount partiions, then one by one delete 7 certificates which are checked by the bootloader for kn0x and/or secure boot.

hope this helps someone...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
Man, nobody understands what you say!

Organize your post better, be more concise.

You can even write in polish & I'm sure someone will translate it better.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
Person who is upper than you some go to forward xd

Dont forget connect device to chartger or any usb.

Sorry i forgot.

you must check off Validation ADB/ADT.

Application to this action without root.

Com.samsung.helppluginc download from sam apps

Instal on debug select program and unckedk another safe from sam...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
Ok, then we need somebody to test this.

Sooner the better so the man could get his money!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chkenwing:
As someone said in this thread "What is made by man, can be broken by man".

Heck, I remember iOS6 not being able to be jailbreaked but someone out of nowhere (pod2g) managed to find a way.

Unfortunately, I doubt they had the eFuse to worry about. Damn, I just had a thought, imagine if Apple did incorporate eFuse into their phones.

Anyway, it's becoming a pain in the butt, and it looks like there isn't really interest anymore into finding a solution for this problem and if there is, it's going reaaaally slow. I can wait though, I have 11 months left on my warranty anyway.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
I went ahead and sent a PM to Chainfire to see if he will take a look at the procedure described.....

Geeve
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Chainfire:
I'm not sure if these are anything but random words thrown together to make the impression of sentences, tbh ... :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
LOL, yeaa it is a mess! but is there is no validity here? That I think is the question :) Not second guessing you by any means, but shouldn't there be an attempt to try to understand what he is actually saying?

Geeve
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EddieN:
Are you sure you aren't dismissing him a little too fast? Sure, his English is craptastic, but do you have an explanation as to why you think his wall of text is nonsense? I think it's pretty obvious, even from the boken sentence structure, that the guy is trying to say something and that it isn't just random words written to make it look like sentences.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything but an explanation, even if short, would be nice :)

By the way he mentioned working with FreeBSD in Poland, so maybe he is Polish? I know Polish so maybe he could rewrite what he wants to say and I could translate it to the best of my ability.

EDIT: I just sent Arymanik a Polish PM asking him to retype his message so I can translate it. I'm waiting for his reply.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
Any way you could PM him and ask if he would retype it to you in Polish? I would hate to have the answer right here and people just dismiss it because of a language barrier....

Geeve
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EddieN:
Did a ninjaedit but you posted before me :) I edited my post above saying i PM'ed him
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Chainfire:
I'm not dismissing him - I'm just saying I have no idea whatsoever what he's trying to say.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EddieN:
Okay! Sorry for the misunderstanding :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
any progress new? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EddieN:
He hasn't replied to my PM yet. I keep checking regularly!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] djnoicatse:
It's looks like you may have found a solution, I'm not knocking you or anything but no one here understands what you're trying to say. I'd suggest you PM someone here on XDA with in Polish that way we can understand . Are there any Polish speaking individuals here that can PM [MENTION=5655319]Arymanik[/MENTION] and translate so we can better understand .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] allotrios:
I think he is saying that if you reinstall the bootloader kn0x goes back to 0.

But I may be wrong.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] geeve420:
It's more that there is some sort of certificates that need to be removed. But in order to that you need to stop everything dismantle the partitions and then start over with a fresh complete install. That's what I got anyway. We are waiting for him/her to reply to a PM from a Polish speaking member. Then we will know more :)

Geeve
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sajoo:
He did not test it. Probably no.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] djnoicatse:
According to his post I'd say yes....BUT it also looks like it's for the S4.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mahmoud007:
Knox

i did not test it .. but if it does not worked out ... this only mean ..

either that there is another physical memory where does SeLinux and Knox stand !!

or eFuse theory "unlikely".

Or my Rom was stupidly understand by me :P

But i think the Rom will work Just fine !! its the original Rom 4.2.2 i just added sbl1.mbn for 4.2.2 android witch was missing in the official rom
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Omar04:
That is for the Galaxy S4 not the Note 3.

Scribbled from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk PRO

ELITE TESTER
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
Sorry.

I will be in home at 6am. And answer in polish. Sorry for my english.

I dont know why my system is custom with jb4.3 and oryginal kernell...

But knox kernel is 0x0.

Bootload qualcom is open.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] picrthis:
Is it my eyes?? it sure looks like it shows 0x1
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vigz:
Yeah, the KNOX Warranty Void is 0x1. I have no idea what the KNOX Kernel Lock does though. That's always been 0x0 for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JLow0214:
Well it does say secureboot is disabled and isnt that what we really want

Edit: just checked out my odin screen and i dont have the secure boot line

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] OmarManLover:
never beat Samsung

oh God!!!

you still discuss that subject??!!!

I told you before that is no way to reset or beat the knox

not for note3 or S4

keep calm and give up

again Samsung Wins
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
me too, but where says kernel is still 0x0
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pete4k:
Yeah, try polish, we have difficult time understanding you and we have members that can translate.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
I dont know what i do before. Now secure boot show me eneable CSB. It was second time when i do "none".

Whatever... wait for me pm in polish :P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pete4k:
You can PM me, I hope I can translate and I'll be online for another 2-3 hrs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] LordKoga:
Arymanik are you saying you manged to return KNOX to 0X0 or did you downgrade a KNOX 0X0 device from 4.3 to 4.2.2?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
so it means there has chance for note 2 and s3?

if i were you i wont be so sure...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
From the picture he posted it seems like he's got all the counters tripped.

False alarm.. :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mahmoud007:
will unlocking bootloader allows us to have fully root access ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lilstevie:
The bootloader is already "unlocked" the only problem is it trips the knox bit which says warranty void, and prevents you from using knox.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JLow0214:
Bootloader is unlocked????? As in custom recovery and aosp roms unlocked????

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
Yea, the bootloader is unlocked, you can do whatever you want. Was locked just for Verizon, Att.

Let's try to keep this thread lite and on the subject:bounty for resetting knox.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JLow0214:
Oh vzw phone here :(

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
You should try safestrap - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2441441
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JLow0214:
I did, didnt like it, aosp fan here. So went back to stock mk2 with root still hoping for unlocked boot. Sorry to clog up the thread

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Chainfire:
Somewhere in some of the latest firmwares is a kernel protection option, if you turn that on, you can't flash different kernels, and the kernel lock goes to 0x1.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OmarManLover:
yea may be note2 and s3

old devices never have eFuse
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gazeddy:
Have you personlly broke the soc down to find that. Not used before doesnt mean they arent there lying dormant waiting to be woke up
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pete4k:
Do we know for 100% sure Knox uses e-fuses, or we just suspect it does? How about older phones like my GS3, which never had Knox until latest 4.3 update? It doesn't matter for me anymore since phone is out of warranty but still could help us figure it out.

Does anybody know where physically the e-fuses are? Are they inside SOC, on separate IC, or where? In old days, all you had to do to unlock additional CPU frequencies, is to cut or short some pins on CPU.

In a sense the guy was right, if we wipe the phone clean and load some older firmware without Knox the problem should be solved.

And how about the guy who claimed his GN3 had Knox tripped and Samsung clear it? Was that BS? There must be some people who have friends working at service centers, so we should at least know what's possible.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] laurorual:
what happened with that post? I was about to test it :(

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mahmoud007:
do you have GT-I9505 ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] laurorual:
yup. look at my signature

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mahmoud007:
tell me what happens after you flash it

if it flashed fine root with kingoapp and use triangle away and reset counter then upgrade device .. and check counter
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kirk87:
If I have my knoz counter in 0x1 and I was reset the flash counter and disabled the super user, I can update my device from OTA way????

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] yahyoh:
probably its not efuse , its just a counter stored some where in the eMMC and its protected and encrypted ( i think )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
Documentation of KNOX

Secure System ---> CSB(CUSTOMIZE SECURE BOOT) WITH(+) ARM TRUST ZONE integrated with TIMA (Samsung Infrastructure) WITH (+) SE FOR ANDROID ( (Secure enchacements// kernel ver.) SE For Android - SE FOR A.

IF all was check next PBL Start DBL and SBL with cryptographing CLP

Than load rom or backup ron fron FLASH MEM

In PBL we have another Bootloader.

ABOOT -

can open csb (odin)

Recovery e3

And start kernel or recover... yes. No rom but recover kernell.

How to enter too aboot in PBL to rec?

I dont know.

we must have first kernell+ acces to PBL in AM7 proc it was in board rom. Samsung servicec have for this specialy hardware xd.

another way is get us fingerprint key to encode.

Too identificate your device hardware using IMEI number.

Location of first connect too samsung MDM

and key...

All is encrypt in FIPS 140-2 cert with 128bit

if you want some more information when knox its set 0x1 check logs in

/data/misc/audit/audit.log and old audit.dd

some more information:

Enforcing

SEPF_SM_N9005_4.3_0016 its changed from 0012 when rooting and set flag.

(In sys files we can found all old libs and configs)

But how too compilate it? I dont know.

Remeber Software are instaled in EEPROM not in DBL.

Kernell

3.4.0-2019540 (my its on first bootloader, its the oldest kernell)

Android system show me bootloader MK3... with modem MJ7.

all SWREV i can back to 2/2/2/2/2

Maybe i help.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cocokasper:
$20 in the pot...

add me in for $20 if someone claims this.. HMU = cocokasper@gmail.com to collect.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sangalaviral:
Do tell us the results.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gnubian:
I'm guessing it didn't work or he would have replied :/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] laurorual:
sadly i can only test it when i come back from vacation, so i didn't test it yet :(

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] RuggedHunter:
Has anything come of Arymanik's posts yet??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sokrboot:
Confusion. And the misperception that this will help anyone on a Verizon phone because it will NOT.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RuggedHunter:
Bummer... Safe to assume the same is true for ATT then too I suppose. It was interesting to read a fresh idea tho... wish some useful info could've been added to the pool of knowledge here...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EddieN:
I sent him a PM some pages back asking him to retype his posts to me in Polish so I could translate it to English for you guys, but I have yet to receive his polish PM.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I think everyone got too excited. He said he had knox kernel 0x0 not know warranty void.

To me the user has misunderstood what we're trying to restore.

Yes you can have system set to custom and still have Knox 0x1 that's not the issue people having. It's to go back from knox warranty void. And yet no one managed to do so (only note ii) since they were able to restore old bootloader. But it seems like that method has changed /never been active on s4 and note 3

[I'm helping to tell developers how they can protect their app from being pirated and how they can protect it, in that way you can consider to not worry about your app being patched. too many developers have a bad protection.]
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RuggedHunter:
Oh wow... I wonder what happened...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Arymanik:
Its a question.

Boot in Odin showing:

Custom and custom...

But Android info i have this...

SEPF was back to 0012.

But still flag is 0x0
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Cundis:
Just a thought. On my S3 i9305 i got the 4.3 update and it installed knox. My mum's S3 i9300 also got the 4.3 update but no knox. Can it be the i9305 has got the e-fuses pre installed and the i9300 doesn't?

Some more thoughts: Didn't she get knox because she has the exynos chip, and my i9305 has the qualcomm chip? And the qualcomm has the e-fuses built in?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gazeddy:
Yep the qualcomm chipset has efuses. Unsure on exynos
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TroozersRouge:
I'm going to assume that he doesn't have anything as he has repeatedly ignored the offer to reply in his native language
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
[MENTION=5655319]Arymanik[/MENTION]

Można odpowiedzieć w języku polskim? Mamy problemy ze zrozumieniem języka angielskiego. Będziemy mieć ktoś przetłumaczyć.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] perissatto:
Translated :

Can you answer in Polish? We have problems understanding the English language. We will have someone to translate.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] allenjthomsen:
I just had a thought occur to me about this am going to rip apart stock 4.3 files and look into something that a friend of mine who works at samsung told me will post results later

---------- Post added at 12:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 PM ----------

And also why dont att people make a flashable bootloader from tmobile files so they can have an unlocked bootloader also or am i missing something in that thought process

---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 PM ----------

I can translate what hes saying in broken english better if you guys want
[Galaxy Note 3 General] shayind4:
Will Kitkat update reset knox flag from 0x1 to 0x0? Bootloader should be updated, and rom is official. If not, then Samsung is surely taking us for a ride (till someone hacks the Knox).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] slow_one:
I believe that after Knox is on 0x1 you can not upgrade to new stock rom, "not eligible" with tripped Knox. :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
C++ is easier to learn than Polish :p

I do speak German well though :)

Had to to give my grandparents a call to get a translation, and even then, they aren't fluent anymore.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] allenjthomsen:
And i think i have a solution or a way to way kill this ****.

Ok some information on this.

1. this **** linux license its free and cant be warranty void if we have root. Of course if service centers check that is why our devices are broken, But if its hardware issue not root and its not firmware were are we left.

Right to development

Next is my way to defeat it but it dont have a computer

We know these bull s*** files were saved in booting secure partition (info samsung under download /help issue. not help but seccond in samsung.

This is what ive managed to rewrite and understand from Arymaniks post so far

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If u odin stock rom there should be no issue upgrading to 4.4.2 at least to my knowledge
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrate:
WTF... I'm going to download the hole ROM and will try flashing it using Mobile ODIN - no matter what if updating via OTA doesn't work.

And if even this won't work, Ill try using PC ODIN.

I don't care about this ****ing KNOX flag anymore, since it's almost tripped.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] allenjthomsen:
Will not work using mobile odin because the bootloader contains files to make the system run i am currently ripping apart the bootloader to find out what files are missing so i can add them to a rom to make it flashable

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But remember if u flash stock 4.4.2 using odin u cant revert to 4.3 anymore
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrate:
WTF is Samsung wrong with... I knew that there was no way to revert from 4.3 to 4.2.2 like on the S4. But now for the Note 3 which came with 4.3 there shall be no reverting possible from 4.4.2? :eek:

I'm more and more thinking of skipping Samsung devices for a very long time... It's almost 5 years in a row for now. But if they are still going their "no backwards compatibility" way, I gonna change my mind and search for another company with much more user-friendly possibilities.

As a side note: I don't think Samsung will ever release an unlocked KNOX bootloader since - and if thats true - if KNOX is a security product of cooperation with the NSA, then it would be kind of dumb to do it. Because you could break any KNOX featured and secured device that are or proven as highly "secure" / "secured" for a company's sensible documents.

So the only possible way to break KNOX and the bootloader would be by hacking it. I think there's no other possible way to get around it.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mnasledov:
Trust Zone?

OK, so I have been watching this KNOX discussion and others on the sideline, not really commenting much because frankly I don't know that much about it. I've avoided this evilness on my Samsung devices and as a result won't buy Samsung after this.

But something right in the above quoted portion of the post totally lit up something in my head: "Trust Zone"

Having written the MD5 firmware updater for T999 (TMO S3), I'm familiar with the tz.mbn (Trust Zone firmware blob) file slightly. I don't know much about its contents but I do update it in my MD5 firmware updater script.

MJC adds Knox support for S3, so I kind of refused to make an MJC updater script. It's trivial to make and left as an intelligence test for those who really want to do it.

Have people looked at the tz.mbn blobs to see if there's anything to them? Pardon me if this has already been discussed.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
My attention is focused on TZ now. I've discovered (PLEASE don't do this, I just hard-bricked my phone last night) that you can flash ANY signed image to ANY partition. AKA we can flash over TZ. I would test it, but unfortunately I accidentally flashed over RPM and SBL1 (READ:DUMB.) I've been combing through quite a bit, and it looks like TZ is the start of the verification. However, TrustZone also verifies the modem FW/SW image too. When my replacement device comes, I will let you guys know more.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] slow_one:
Very good info, keeping the hopes up!:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
How it is now? already found where is the key to reset knox counter? i never thought it is so hard like that, because i ve heard that restting is something like a simple script updater said by p4j1 ...

start thinking to use trangle away for resetting custum counter and restore stock rom with kies and take to samsung center :s i am afraid if there has really no solution for reset the counter...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mnasledov:
Interesting! Here's documentation I found on ARM TrustZone: http://www.ti.com/lit/wp/spry228/spry228.pdf

Hope it helps.