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[Nexus 5 General] sohell:
I'm curious :angel: What speeds were you expecting?

Here is what Three are advertising - http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting?site=d

(I'm actually not that impressed by the 4G speeds that Three are advertising)

3G = 3.2 Mbps

HSPA+ = 6 Mbps

DC-HSDPA = 12Mbps

4g (LTE) = 14 Mbps

I just ran a quick test and got just under 8Mbps with Three, in London.

Oh, and does anyone know if the Nexus 5 supports LTE-Advanced? The LG G2 does, so I am hoping that the Nexus 5 does as well.
[Nexus 5 General] Deeco7:
Hopefully.

Well from the looks of it you are not getting the advertised speed that the N5 is capable of. Anyways, if you read my first post you would find that I am getting the speeds, but ONLY on 'Speed test' apps, otherwise data download hangs on apps.
[Nexus 5 General] TonyHoyle:
They're being conservative, which makes sense - I've had >14Mbps on HSDPA.

There's only so much data capacity at the towers - even if it's capable of LTE if you only have a couple of hundred Mbps feeding it it won't take long before the number of clients drags it down to sucky speeds.
[Nexus 5 General] hurry54:
I transferred to 3 a week before, but I found that it performs really bad in speed test, I'm in Liverpool.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Go to Amazon, type "orzly Nexus 5". You'll find one big ass case.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Three was always more honest than the other networks, which probably counted against them (they advertised 2.8Mbps when it was actually 3.6 etc) as people would sign with a network claiming the higher speed.

In recent years, people are now realising that the max figures are often impossible to achieve and going for more real world figures. All the 4G operators so far seem to be downplaying it, but I expect they have their reasons - and must hope to surprise people that get higher speeds, than anger those who get lower speeds.

I get 15-25Mbps on Three (and have peaked at 27Mbps a few times) so I am obviously hopeful of beating that with 4G, but I wouldn't be too upset if it's around the same but available in more places - currently I can travel around and have speeds fall to 5-10Mbps. When Three uses its 800MHz spectrum, I also hope to get even better signal when indoors, which will be another bonus.

Plus if Three is announcing free roaming in the USA next month (and some other places), there really won't be any reason to even look at another network!

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What do you get with the Ookla Speedtest app, which seems to be the main one to use - as it is quite dynamic and usually gives more accurate and 'real world' results?
[Nexus 5 General] hurry54:
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What do you get with the Ookla Speedtest app, which seems to be the main one to use - as it is quite dynamic and usually gives more accurate and 'real world' results?[/QUOTE]

Here's my new tests, however I can't even upload data to liverpool server, it showed communication issue therefore it's only two results here. First one is London and second one is Manchester.
[Nexus 5 General] SqueakyWizard:
My HSDPA is very erratic with 3. I was getting around 11Mbps at work and 1 mile away I'm getting 2Mbps. Can you get 4G with 3 yet?
[Nexus 5 General] Quinny899:
I think 3 4g comes soon
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
4G is due in December. I'm surprised they haven't given an actual date yet, as it might boost sales of phones and SIM only deals in stores before Christmas.

Some are guessing the 3rd (because of the 3 - it launched on 03/03/03 and other things happened on the third) or maybe the 4th because it's 4G. I just hope it's soon!
[Nexus 5 General] SqueakyWizard:
Just plugged my charger in and it started making a hissing and crackling sound... :confused:

Unplugged it and it carried on getting higher pitched :eek:

Looks like I'll be calling Google at lunch.
[Nexus 5 General] hsktommox:
I also will be ordering mine as soon as i can
[Nexus 5 General] starmile:
I ordered 32GB black on the 11 Nov., but it is still PENDING. Is it normal? Should I wait a bit more? Nothing happen on my bank account yet. :confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
It should tell you an estimated dispatch from warehouse date on your orders screen. I know the black was showing 3 - 4 weeks when I ordered a couple of weeks ago so would be normal. They'll email you when it's on its way with a tracking number.
[Nexus 5 General] bocorcorain:
I ordered a 32GB on the 10th and is still at Pending.

I received my order confirmation email.

Says it will ship on 12/11/2013.

Doubt you have anything to worry about.
[Nexus 5 General] spinal2k:
Cases went on sale today ... No black color though...
[Nexus 5 General] chistery:
I don't know how Google can justify £11 to post a cover.
[Nexus 5 General] prawnguevara:
It's a joke. That's why I didn't buy nexus from play store.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
I did. Simply for their exchange policy. Well worth 11 quid. However, I'd never pay the price they are asking for covers nor would I pay ridiculous £11 for shipping it.
[Nexus 5 General] dn*:
On my SGS3, I got HSDPA+ with my Tesco Mobile pay-monthly SIM but with the N5, I'm only getting standard HSDPA (well, a H up top, no H+).

Is this normal? Or should I get the +?

I'm going to be moving networks (possibly to EE) so it may be moot, but I thought I'd ask in here.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Exactly the same, Google's exchange policy is brilliant along with their customer service that I've experienced having had to RMA the device. It's also the cheapest including shipping so would not have looked elsewhere after paying over the odds for my N4 from O2 last year however I got a free TV so only real reason I did it ;)

Definitely wouldn't pay their prices for cases as doubt they're worth the cost let alone the additional shipping which is more than the phone.

You'll be getting HSDPA+ it's just that Nexus devices have never included the H+ signal status icon was the same with my N4, strange but true.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Lol, I got the TV as well. £420 for TV and N4 is a nice deal ;)
[Nexus 5 General] kipperash:
That N4 O2 deal was AMAZING! I was rather hoping for something similar with the N5 this year, but nada :/

Not that I care though, because my N5 has shipped today and I'm like an overexcited child!
[Nexus 5 General] alzakx:
Quick question, does the Nexus 5 sold by O2 comes unlocked?

Can you use it with any other carrier?

Is it the D821 model?

Thanks.
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
Why would you want to pay £200 more than what you can get it off google for ? Just interested :)
[Nexus 5 General] alzakx:
It's just that a friend bought one from o2 and he wants to switch carrier.

Do you know if it comes unlocked? I had a online chat with a O2 rep and he told me that you had to take the N5 to customer service to have it unlocked.

I don't quite understand this.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Was certainly a cracking deal and was going to sell my N4 on for £200 but decided to just give it to my mum if she can manage to work out how to use it lol. If not will be putting it on the old gumtree and seeing what it goes for.

I did have a brief look to see if they could justify their huge margin but they obviously learned from the last one and knew it'd be popular anyway.

When I got my N4 from them it wasn't locked so I'd doubt the N5 is as it's a Google phone I wouldn't be surprised if they're not allowed to lock it.
[Nexus 5 General] deanwray:
tell your friend to call O2 and tell them that "your going abroad on business for a few weeks in [insert country here that O2 do not supply international calls for] and you are buying a local sim, will it work?" if the answer is no it wont, ask them to get you an unlock code :)
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
Anyone have a guesstimate on wait time for 16GB black?
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
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[Nexus 5 General] Michealtbh:
All Nexus devices are unlocked
[Nexus 5 General] Deeco7:
Bad move my friend, I wouldn't advise you to move to EE. Their service has become poor and is a bloody rip off.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Three are the only ones not to charge extra or have a special tariff for lte

Although its only 14mb/s. 3 limit everything. Its dc-hspa is 12 (out of maximum 42), hspa is 6 (out of maximum 21)

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[Nexus 5 General] :
I purchased mine release date, got it 2 days after. Not been disappointed with it yet, got it from Google Play.
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Wrong info my friend. For 3uk dc-hspa it's not unusual to hit 22 and more mbps. They just provide more realistic average speeds, that's all.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Ha ha. Well that wrong info is ripped straight from the three uk website, so not sure what that says. You're saying they "down play"?

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[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Three doesn't limit at all. It just shows an average speed most users can expect to get. My highest speed on DC-HSPA is 27Mbps, which is faster than both Three and EE state as being available on 4G!

Yet on EE, I can get speeds of 50Mbps (and hope I'll get similar on Three when it launches LTE).

It's a shame that Three's honesty is actually making it seem slower when it's by far the best 3G network in the UK.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Its just odd then that their 6mbps HSPA+ is what I get. Slower than O2.

However I don't care so much as its much better value for money

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[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
They don't downplay, they just give an average. As do most of the carriers afaik. And speeds you are seeing depend on your location and density of population using that mast/s. I get about 6-8 where i live. Other places less, others more. Even lowest speed (apart from when faulty) is enough for streaming anything. No complaints so far.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Great. This is good news indeed. I was disappointed by what I thought was their advertised speeds. Still waiting for dc here

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[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
Whereabouts are you?

Their network quality has gone down in London over the last few weeks, with huge ping and "slow" (1mbps) speeds. I'm patiently sitting through it as I have a hunch that this is due to works on 4g rollout. Hopefully....
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
I'm up in West Yorkshire. Bronte country. But speeds were the same when I lived in Leeds.

Speeds aren't bad. Just thought that the speeds they said weren't a good match for the technology.

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[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Not really, as that's why it's an average.

But, that said, slower than O2 is quite an achievement! I can only imagine you're just a lot closer to an O2 site, or not in a congested area.

O2 on 3G is awful in my experience (but very very good on 4G).
[Nexus 5 General] Nathanation:
I think it depends on the area and also the type of data deal, my contract O2 speeds were good, then switched to giffgaff on payandgo and although they still use O2s network I think O2 customers are prioritized, I averaged at 0.02mbs (grr)

Now I'm on Three and its pretty decent where I am (12mbs) and patiently waiting for a free upgrade to 4g....
[Nexus 5 General] Deeco7:
Just curious...does anyone's icon show 'H+' on Three? Mine is always on 'H'.

Also, if someone could share their Three APN that will improve my connection, I'd appreciate thanks.
[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
I'm pretty sure it's the same as the N4 where it never showed H+ even when on H+ as the icon wasn't being used. The only way to previously get it showing on my N4 was with a custom ROM as they added the icon back in. I'm sure custom ROM's or mods will do the same again on the N5. Just to make sure that it is working on H+ go into settings, about phone and status and will show you whether it's HSPA or + but obviously you have to be in an area you expect it.

As for the network discussion I was on Tesco which uses O2 and then moved to Three which turned out to be awful in my area as inside buildings coverage was zero so I've moved to GiffGaff due to being another MVNO of O2. Thankfully normal service has resumed and have signal everywhere again :)

I hope when 4G launches Three do improve their network and ability to cover inside as I'll then move back due to their good offer unless GiffGaff decide to do something useful with 4G which they've yet to announce.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Correct. No H+ icon in use

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[Nexus 5 General] DHTC:
Just got my sim through from three and ran a quick test inside and its topped out at 28mbps. Really impressed with this as my t mobile topped out at 21mbps.

I'm in Birmingham by the way.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Three really is amazing isn't it (not everywhere of course, but more people boast of really good speeds than really bad speeds).

Another benefit for me is that I get a much faster upload speed too.. 2.5-3.5Mbps, which is also 3-4 times faster than my ADSL line.

Three is downplaying 4G a bit, probably on account of it not being available to that many people for some time, saying that with its amazing 3G speeds a lot of people won't really notice a massive improvement, but one thing 4G definitely will improve is the upload speed. There's a good chance that people will go up to nearer 10Mbps, and that makes a huge difference for things like uploading videos to YouTube.

As of this morning, 23 days in to my billing cycle, I've topped 80GB! What's even more amazing is that I'll be able to go mental even when I'm in Sweden for Christmas next month and pay not a penny more!
[Nexus 5 General] Cactus42:
Went from O2 to Three because of their horrible tariff's. Found Three to be faster all round, except for when I'm up in the wilds of Chesterfield...
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
My o2 speeds were good in Leeds but they changed tariff on me. I moved to three and have never looked back!

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[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Been on three for a few weeks now, usually get around 6mb which is fine for me, its faster than orange for me.

Main thing is unlimited. So far used nearly 3gig, three times more than allowed on my orange tariff I was paying £41.

Looking forward to 4g live in greater London so shouldn't be long now I hope
[Nexus 5 General] 2Pints:
Been witt

h three for a while now, the poor signal indoors problem is largely down to the frequencies that three have to use for 3G services, most fo the time im un affected, and when im out of an area with reception its usually somewhere remote where mobile reception is patchy all round.

As for speed, three (3G) Vs Plusnet (ADSL2+) using OOkla speedtest, on phone and on a PC

Three:

Ping 110ms

Download: 6.41Mbps

Upload 2.29Mbps

Plusnet

Ping: 12ms

Down 11.6Mbps

Up: 0.91Mbps
[Nexus 5 General] DHTC:
Tried another location where I'm usually at most days and it only hit 2mbps. Its not shocking as where I usually am the signal is low in general on any network I've tried. Hopefully the 4g upgrade will boost the signal, if not at least I'm only on a 1 month contract.

But yeah for £18 a month its great. All the mins, txts and data I need along with being able to use allowances in some places abroad and tethering. With a free 4g bump.

When I called T mobile for my pac the best they could offer me was the standard new customer ee tariff of 500 mins, unlimited txts, 500mb data, no tethering for £16 per month on a 24month contract.

The guy at T mobile even said that its an amazing offer.
[Nexus 5 General] scouser_75:
Guys who are using 3G as apposed to 4G - when you go into Network and set the phone to a 3G signal, does the phone store this setting?

On mine, when I go back into Network there is no setting stored ie. There are no blue dots next to 2g, 3g or 4g. But if I set it to 4g it remembers and stores it.
[Nexus 5 General] darh:
Hi guys just popping by to say hi, got the n5 on release day via carphone warehouse I've had nexus devices since the Gnex had the N4 too loving the nexus five I have a feeling I've been very lucky I've heard people say about little bugs here and there but I have no issues. I'm running ART since day one with no issues although with the device being so fast, its hard to tell a difference lol anyway look forward to chatting in the near future.

Cooking, somewhere near you
[Nexus 5 General] Kid_droid:
I'm really 50/50 on the 3 network. I thought I would sign up for 12 months today but been reading sorts of horror stories about signal. Mine next best option option is tesco mobile. I don't want to send more than 18 pound ideally on simonly deals.

I'm with 02 at the moment. I'm in London at the moment. My mother is on 3 but doesn't know much about data and monitoring signal so that's not helpful haha I might do a speed test on her galaxy s2 though.

I might get on the one plan monthly deal for 3 unlimited data. Apparently my current usage on 02 is usually around 2GB.

There is also an option with tesco mobile. £17.50 with a 4G and 4G.

Did someone mention 02 4G is better is better their 3G?. Might that be the same case on Tesco 4G.
[Nexus 5 General] faultytowersdude:
Cool I'm in Leeds too looks like three will be where I'm heading
[Nexus 5 General] LBTaylor1984:
TBH theres a bit of hate towards EE, BUT from my perspective you're getting what you pay for. My friend had O2 4G and I have EE. Now he can get 10-25 mbps, which isn't bad however I've maxed out at 89 mbps, with regular 80+ mbps. Thats as fast as fibre optic in my area, and a damn site quicker than anything i've heard others getting around me on yodaphone, o2 and three.

Now if you have a 10-20gb allowance you cannot chew through that without some serious download speeds, which by my estimation isn't possible on the others. Maybe i'm wrong, but I've been with EE for 9 months i've had no problems and the customer service is always efficient and well spoken.

In contrast Three is a nightmare where I am, the customer service was so bad regarding ending a contract my friend had to take them to court. anyways thats a different story
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Given Three share the sites with EE, you shouldn't have any major difference to when comparing the two.

Customer service is an entirely different story. O2 regularly win awards for their customer service, but I'd not consider having the slowest data speeds (as regularly shown by the likes of RootMetrics) being acceptable just for a better service when, touch wood, most people have very little need to contact customer service these days. You can do nearly everything online, by email or even Twitter now.
[Nexus 5 General] 8bitplus:
In Leeds also. Three speed and coverage is very good here.
[Nexus 5 General] LBTaylor1984:
I understand your point, but didn't someone already say that Three is limited, I think while Orange loan there masts to Three, and I guess EE aswell for LTE I do not believe it's equally shared either, otherwise one, it wouldn't be limited, and two EE just couldn't charge as much as they do.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Firstly, Three and T-Mobile started sharing their network many years ago. Orange came to the party late, as part of the creation of EE (merging Orange and T-Mobile). So Orange is the new kid on the block here! Vodafone and O2 now have a similar deal, so as you'll see - the roll out of 4G is pretty much identical on both.

But, the sites are shared, not the backend - which obviously makes a real difference in what speeds you might get. If that's congested, then you'll see that sometimes you get great speeds but at other times it falls markedly. Some legacy fill-in sites are still 2G only, and on these you won't find Three - so this can still put Three at a disadvantage (i.e. the others will let you fall back to 2G, which is fine for calls/texts, and Three will go no signal).

I've noticed huge improvements on EE over the last year on 3G. Data speeds with DC-HSPA up there with Three (as in 20Mbps or more) but I still get the odd time where I've got H+ on screen but there's no data. Pings fail and only a reboot (or sometimes a flight mode toggle) will fix. I don't remember a time I've had to do that on Three..

Anyway, to conclude, the network sharing is only for the sites. It isn't sharing capacity or spectrum. The fact that EE is charging more for 4G while it can does not mean it will be given a greater share of capacity over Three. That's all down to the spectrum each operator has a licence for.
[Nexus 5 General] EddyOS:
Mine should be here Monday. Ordered today with a 'leaves warehouse by 11th December' and got my shipping email 10 minutes ago! Gone for a white 32GB one with the grey bumper. Was tempted to go for the black one and get one of the OEM white backs off eBay to swap it out so it would have the matte sides and black speaker grill but it's too much hassle! :D

Time to sell the One...
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Enter the Nexus!

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[Nexus 5 General] AvRS:
Good choice as I've got the same :D

I went for one of these i-Blason cases and it's brilliant. I got the last in the selection of colours as was an actual TPU clear case and not the hybrid one as didn't like my similar Spigen hybrid but can certainly say this was worth the £8 inc delivery from i-Blason and shows off the white back perfectly. I was supposed to get pics for someone else but never got round to it so if I do I'll post them up.

Welcome back to the Nexus family as I'm sure it was you that was around in the Nexus 4 discussions but then opted to go for the One, either that or I remember you from another phone discussion lol :good: