yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
unofficial releases were launched before most people even got dev editions fyi. Further,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2481048

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2484762

http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/1...-now-available-gsm-unlocked-bootloaders-only/

and I'm sure a simple google search would produce plenty of things you might want to try. But having as much dev as we have already had is pretty good to men considering the type of phone, how new it is, and how late all of the software and builds got released.

agreed completely. Why would you expect a brand new phone with brand new chipset would magically get great roms. people have to learn what is going on just how the OP is learning that things come with time.
[Moto X General] RorixRebel:
not like i miss the dev on this phone, i mean it's pretty much aosp

what else were you expecting?

most roms out there are aosp based
[Moto X General] DonDizzurp:
Yea I figure as long as we have root, the stock ROM should be good enough with Motorola's tweaks.
[Moto X General] ranick01:
I've read a thread similar to this on all of my phones from the OG galaxy S (captivate). I would say give it some time, heck the dev edition only came out a few weeks ago.
[Moto X General] icase81:
The fact that its impossible to unlock the bootloader on the major carriers is another bottleneck as well. If/when theres a bootloader unlock, the development will come.
[Moto X General] mwedemeier11:
Are roms even necessary though? I've always been a terrible crack flasher, but this rom with xposed and gravity box it's pretty much cyanogen. I'm super happy with stock for the first time ever
[Moto X General] joshnichols189:
The chipset is hardly anything new.. "X8" is just a marketing term.
[Moto X General] gamingforfact:
I enjoy not flashing roms all the time. I can finally personalize this phone and keep it that way. The only thing I miss is the cm themes.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
oh so people have made roms for other phones with similar chipsets? I didn't know other similar phones existed. Learn something new everyday. Wonder why dev's didn't just create all the things the moto x can do themselves if those phones already had the ability...
[Moto X General] mwedemeier11:
Check out the xposed theme engine
[Moto X General] MajorTankz:
The Moto X uses a Qualcomm S4 Pro SoC. It was never anything special. Motorola just markets the additional processors as a whole to make the concept easier to understand. Development would be similar to any other new phone.

Porting popular ROMs while retaining the functionality of Active Notifications and Touchless Control may/may not be whole different ball game though.
[Moto X General] nerdwaller:
The X is impressive for a standard carrier device, but nothing will beat a Nexus. I would say The X is, by far, the closest to stock you'll find (again, outside a nexus).

The Moto bloat is slipped in almost unnoticeably and the junk apps are easy to deal with (I actually find some of the 'bloat' well done, such as moto assist - though I still prefer tasker). Happiest off the shelf device I've had since the ogDroid, but hoping to get an N5 for real Dev stuff.
[Moto X General] icase81:
They call it an S4 pro but its really a dual core SnapDragon 600. Its the the same CPU cores just 2 instead of 4 and still has the same quad core GPU.
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
I'm good with stock. And that says a lot about how good this phone is.
[Moto X General] mj0528:
Can you tell a big difference in battery without greenify and autostart?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
check this out. first, one of the Moto processors does a lot of the accelrometer and other features that the phone uses not just for the new cool moto stuff but also for the camera and stabilization. then this quote as well seems like it may make things more difficult (if you wanted an optimized rom)

“We’ve done additional optimizations … such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we’ve changed the file system. It’s full hardware-software integration to deliver best-in-class performance.” – Iqbal Arshad, Senior Vice President of Engineering, Motorola

I don't know about all of this really but the "marketing hype" was reported more or less when no one really knew what was going on with the processors, not after the release (from what I have seen while searching at least).

source:

http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/14/motorola-x8-2
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
No. I get excellent battery life without them
[Moto X General] mj0528:
on the fence about leaving the root zone, I keep getting burned using safe strap and its started to bug me how much time I spend restoring things just so i can do it all over again.

This will will probably mark a new era of devless phones. As other manufacturers start following suit, more phones will get less dev treatment. It maybe a new day for users to start using their phones instead of countless hours of tweaking trying to find better battery and faster performance.
[Moto X General] thedosbox:
Yep, the anandtech review talked about the F2FS filesystem and how it helps performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/9
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
If you don't want to have to do all of the getting burned with SS then just wait. That's what I do because I don't have time personally to help out Hashcode with debugging the early builds. I have just waited a few weeks or a month at times and then used his SS with absolutely no problems. Only time I have had to deal with restoring stuff and wasting time is when a new version he releases is not compatible with an older version backups. Not sure this has happened in a while but I have been using SS for a few years now. Or a couple. Can't remember. It has been flawless in later stages. I think it is pretty stable now if you follow all the steps correctly. But I'm still waiting a couple more weeks.
[Moto X General] mj0528:
will do, thanks!
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
So I'm guessing that means there is some sort of learning curve when creating optimized roms. Maybe in the future as other carriers perhaps move to do something similar the dev community will know how to work with the new set up better and release things more often. I wouldn't be surprised to see Google start using some of Moto's research or optimization techniques since they paid for it lol (even though they claim to be separate but I bet that has to do with giving them special treatment with new OSs which would tick off other carriers and cause problems. that doesn't mean they can't integrate certain technology with them). I also think google would love to make a strong dev community with these new phones because that overlaps their nexus market with normal consumers. This could be the reason that Vzw and ATT released dev phones which they haven't really done in the recent past all that much if at all.

edit: just saw this new SS rom in dev section for the update.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2484908
[Moto X General] lensgrabber:
I was a flashaholic before getting this phone but to be honest the only thing I am missing is the tap-to-pay with Google Wallet. Everything else gives me no reason to flash any other rom. Bluetooth trusted devices, Skip, "Okay Google Now," the speakerphone, battery life, it's all awesome out of the box. The only thing I haven't found very useful so far is the shake for camera. I'm trying to use it but have mixed success and often just launch the app manually. I'm still gonna buy the Nexus 5 so I can flash nightlies every day. :silly:
[Moto X General] FSXv13:
I had the Gnex and I mainly flashed for better battery, smoothness, LED notification light options, and quicksettings expansion.

On this phone, all I need is quicksettings expansion. It's just too good as is. Maybe PIE as well. That's all I need.
[Moto X General] cc16177:
Yep. The main things I want to change are just quick settings, Android keyboard themes, and the overall theme. I've gotten so sick of the standard Android "blue" over the years I would love a black and white theme or one of Sonnys themes.
[Moto X General] mau006:
I love the shake to launch camera. It's really handy since I have a toddler. If only Verizon would release the damn update for it.. Hence why I'm hanging about XDA :)
[Moto X General] jntdroid:
You have no idea how much I resonate with that comment... lol. Coming from the S4, I'm really hoping this update makes the camera at least workable with my kiddos. The camera is the sole reason I ditched the X initially - it's an awesome device otherwise, almost "perfect" in the Android world.
[Moto X General] thedosbox:
I find it just as easy to swipe the lock screen rightwards into the camera.
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Exactly, I'm not upset about the lack of Dev support, Because frankly, this phones doesn't really need it. It's damn near perfect out of the box, I used to spend hours a week tweaking and optimizing trying to get what the moto x gives me as stock. The only thing I kind of miss is the expandable toggles, but I use widget switches to supplement and at this point, I don't even miss the expandable toggles from my s3.

I would love to see what the Dev community could do with this phone, but not having Dev is in no way making me regret my purchase, it has actually free'd up a lot of time that I use to waste flashing on my previous phones.
[Moto X General] dano1282:
Update is coming :)
[Moto X General] ruben8448:
So far I love the stock rom on this phone. More development would be great but I am happy with my phone the way it is. I still need it rooted and unlocked so I can update it earlier (since I am with Verizon), but stock rocks.
[Moto X General] skiwong20:
Get aokp for unlocked bootloaders on...it is now on aokp.co
[Moto X General] icase81:
Rumor has it that the update for Vz also includes turning on the AWS LTE bands, and thats why its taking longer to test/etc.
[Moto X General] Turb0wned:
Roms are dead to me now. I got away from roms finally. I did it for years, android is much better than it ever was and I don't have to worry about bugs anymore with stock. I haven't even wanted to root my DE Moto X.
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
most devices in teh past year IMO have been fine stock, my issue is when 4.4 comes out and even further than that i like to be able to have the option of upgrading as time goes on, we know the carriers wont look out for us.
[Moto X General] ryokokoro:
It looks pretty good as is, I'll admit that, but I can't help but feel like it would be great to see if developers continue and come up with things to add more or different functionality to features it already has. Like making the phone respond differently to the motoskip, or adding more features to the active notifications like the dynamic notifications app does.
[Moto X General] dlongb13:
First phone I have ever had dating back to blackberry's that I haven't rooted. Don't want an AOSP ROM because I don't want to lose active notifications and always listening features. Can't wait for 4.4 and a slight theme change though, that's the only thing I would change about this phone. Like someone else said, I'm getting pretty bored with the the blue and black theme in JB.
[Moto X General] mau006:
Yep. I am getting signed up with the Motorola Developer Feedback thing so I can do the "soak tests". At least then I'll be getting updates a little earlier than the average Big Red vicitimcustomer. Tempting to unlock and do it myself with a ROM, but I got so spoiled with the ease of flashing on Nexus that doing so on the non-dev Moto X just seems like a huge pain. Though mad props to jcase and all the others hard at work on that. Wish I could help, but I am a web dev with pretty weak Java skills. Hopefully will be doing more Android apps at work and will slowly become more useful to this community.

This 'stock' experience has reminded me how awesomely customizable Android is out of the box. I have a couple Aviate Launcher http://getaviate.com invites if anyone wants to shoot me an email. Weird thing for Aviate is it seems like it would be better for the kind of non-geeks who wouldn't think to install a custom launcher, but I guess that's a puzzle for their marketing team. I'm just giving it a whirl to see how intelligent this ex-googler project is.
[Moto X General] Serious_Beans:
If you want a lot of development for a phone just get a Nexus. Motorola phones never had a lot of development. I'm picking up a N5 just to mess with because I don't want to wait months to see Kit Kat lol.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
Well we have 3 customs ROMs now ,pa,cm10.2 and AOKP. So I guess development is on its way to us now, patience my co moto x owners
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
on another thread people who are friends with and know moto employees say they are skipping 4.3 to move to kit kat immediately and are already releasing beta builds to certain people. They say Moto x should be getting Kit kat very shortly after initial release.
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
It saddens Punit Soni too https://plus.google.com/111499908439497508351/posts/7vmqxjMub6U
[Moto X General] mj0528:
DEV is dead on non-dev moto x

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But stock runs great from all aspects! This phone is setting a new presedence!!
[Moto X General] tgmtzmx:
Only thing I need is root, and would love to have AOKP's ribbons.

Other than that I love the phone as is.
[Moto X Q&A] aerismel:
I have a motorola MB860 phone and after a repair both frontal and back cameras don't work.

When I touch the camera button the camera app opens but the screen is black. If I touch the shutter button it looks like the picture is taken, but it doesn't save the picture. The flash doesn't work. And frontal camera is the same thing. Only a black screen. The camera app doesn't force close or anything. It opens normally, but cameras don't work.

I tried updating the software of the phone and still the same issue with both cameras.

Do you know if it is a hardware problem? Speakers, microphone, and volume keys work fine. I know they are connected to the flex cable of the front and back camera. So what does that mean?

I just need to know if I need to change the parts or maybe there is something else I can try to fix it. And what are the symptoms of a camera that doesn't work? Should the camera app force close or should it do what I mentioned before? Show a black screen?

Thank you
[Moto X Q&A] matt99017d:
WRONG forum bud.
[Moto X Q&A] aerismel:
I know, I'm sorry but there is no forum for the Motorola Atrix.
[Moto X Q&A] matt99017d:
This should be it.

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=994
[Moto X Q&A] aerismel:
Thank you for pointing me to that. Is there a way to move the post to that forum? Or I need to create the post again in that forum?
[Moto X Q&A] matt99017d:
you cant move it.

but you can copy and paste it so you dont have to type it all over again.
[Moto X Q&A] aerismel:
Thank you for your help =) I'll do that. and sorry again.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
http://getaviate.com/mobile.html
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Are we just suppose to install it without knowing what is does, the link just takes you to a install page.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Watch the video on that page
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Its in beta now. The install button takes you to the play store link
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qu4nd:
Looks promising... I've registered for the list...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
I don't think it will replace nova launcher but its different, I rely on nova with my uccw & zooper widget layouts an all the customization an tweaks, this launcher is very basic for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
I have 4 invites left if anyone wants one. All I need is an email address
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rjshrjndrn:
Rajesh.0.office@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shaunrickaby1981:
Shaunrickaby1981@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] odi032:
odi032@gmail.com :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Invite sent
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
1haumann1@gmail.com :p

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
I knew I was saving this last invite for a reason lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
very interesting launcher :thumbup:

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Yeah, not as customizable as most ,but an interesting concept
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Daniel 07:
If someone has a spare invite, toss it here! <3

danielcavallari07@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eng_saad:
Deleted...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
Invite sent ;)

swyped from my maguro

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But customizable enough to get a nice homescreen :D

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Gorgeous setup:thumbup::sly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Here's mine
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TheZunken:
Looks interesting, if someone have a spare invite i would like to try it out :)

ajohansson.93@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thenewguy821:
Interested in trying this. If anyone has an invite, that would be great.

Cjmclemore2003@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slouchnight:
It very interesting. Nice concept from the launcher. Have anyone want to spare

slouchnight@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
Invites sent

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thenewguy821:
Thanks 1haumann.

It is quite different, which I usually don't stick with, but this one seems pretty nice. Will stick with it for a bit...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] veskusc:
If anyone can invite me veskuscript@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 1haumann1:
Last one sent

swyped from my maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Deejayadhd:
could anyone else spare an invite? looks interesting..

deejayadhd@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jags_the1:
So you saying nova is more advanced since you spend hours on setting up your uccw and what not to set it up and aviate which provides accurate information and layouts according to location and time is too basic?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ottoeriksson:
Is possible to use this with PA with dpi changed?

Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus med Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ThePhantom97:
I was curious about that myself and am willing to give it a try if anyone can spare another invite.

thephantom9779@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
could somebody toss me invite on this email:

tom.mikulcic@gmail.com

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Aviate is just a launcher with a google now theme for your homescreen, I can use a google now theme on nova with zooper widget or if I'm lazy just use themer beta to do the same thing, an no it doesn't take hours to setup uccw or zooper themes or layouts when you can just get one of many premade from playstore an apply it without building it from scratch yourself while still being on nova or apex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] grh35:
Anyone has spare invite code? This launcher looks very interesting ;)

reha141@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krialix:
I am willing to try it. Could someone send me spare invite code? :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ayaad:
Can anyone send me an invite please....

ayaad24@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kendoggt3:
Ken.ahern@live.com

Cheers bro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jon9314:
Invite please

Jon9314@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vlasis_myr:
Invite please. vlasismiriagos@gmail.com

Στάλθηκε από το Galaxy Nexus μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] savoca:
She looked pretty lonely. Why use Do Not Disturb if nobody even contacts you? :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] rick85:
Looks good. I give them a Chance.

Please invite

burnerritter@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] neerajvd:
Beautiful setup. :good:

What softkeys are you using?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ghosty7:
Looks very interesting.

Please invite...

bakopoulosgeorge@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Dattack:
Can i get an invite?

dattanhoang@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] teraxul:
Teraxul@gmail.com please :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tabaarok:
Please...

tabaarokhidayat@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] flatzki:
Flatzki@googlemail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaseall23:
vaseall23@yahoo.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sirichais:
Tosirichai@gmail.com, waiting to try. Please.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] skraam:
Please send me an invite to krisjanis.arajs@gmail.com

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tzadikiel:
Invite please...

tzadikiel26@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Jimlarck:
Would love an invite. :) my email is jimlarck@gmail.com

sent from my Jelly Bam'd Android
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DowneyJM:
Disregard
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Afwasmassi:
Invite please

Nielsmasdorp@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
How's the battery drain an data usage with this launcher, I assume it updates constantly with location changes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nism240sx:
Looks nice if anyone has an invite please.

nism240sx@gmail.com

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tristan202:
tristan202@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vndkmr97:
Invite Me

vndkmr97@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kdog350:
Battery life using this launcher is absolutely terrible for me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] masona48:
Masona48@gmail.com if anyone has any invites left please
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Do NOT send me an invite..

I mean it....

If I see one invite in my in box at cujo6801@gmail.com

I will be so pissed off at who ever sent that invite to me at

cujo6801@gmail.com

I will follow you around to every post you make...

And well let's just say you will be regretting the day you sent that invite to me at

cujo6801@gmail.com

You've been warned...

sent from the DOG pound
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alfel:
inktognito@gmail.com if someone can send me an invite please. I am looking forward to this launcher ! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
For those wanting a code just enter a random 5 digit number starting with 8 until it activates aviate launcher, worked for me after 2nd try.I now have 5 invites to giveaway.

First 5 emails posted after this will get my invites

whos lduberti@gmail.com lol, my invites say thanks from him when I send them out.

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Some codes start with A then 4 numeric digits now also
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vndkmr97:
Invite me please vndkmr97@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eng_saad:
Invite me please

saadshammari@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Invite sent

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Invite sent
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] wallacefc:
I'll take an invite code if there's still one available.

Nws2002tii@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] masona48:
Masona48@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] blackrobin:
Can some invite me plz. My id is crazyguycool@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
Invite sent
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
Can somebody send me invite on tom.mikulcic@gmail.com please
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] johnny crapple:
I got invited already thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] acix:
Anyone else with spare invites? Mikemacbth@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] UstesGreenridge:
Can someone spare an invite? ustes.greenridge@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Gonox:
< SOLVED >

I would appreciate if a good person give me an invite also :highfive: -----> aurash.matthew@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fux0r99:
I'm all out of invites but do what I did just keep entering a 5 digit number in sign in till it cracks a code, only took me 2 tries to do it, you can keep entering invalid codes till you get one that works, there's no limit on how many times you can enter a wrong code so it won't block you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaystikh:
Can somebody send me invite on vaystikh@gmail.com please?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iLeopard:
Gonna jump on the badwagon, if anyone has a spare invite please invite me.

imacleopard2010@gmail.com
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] itslels:
Heh...using a random 5 digit number starting with 8 worked on my first try! My roommate then downloaded the app to try, and it already had a code entered for him!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vaystikh:
Work perfect!

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lowrider32119:
Anyone have a code? Please.. This looks interesting!