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[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
Ugh.. Geez. At least they could give us an easy way to turn it off. To me it's more like a novelty feature. Like "ohhhh look at my phone! It turns off like an old TV from the early 90's" My Nexus 7 doesn't do that... Most phones don't do that. It's a little silly. We should be able to just turn it off. But I'm sure once we get Xposed working on 4.4 it won't matter anymore... Gosh I love XDA...
[Nexus 4 General] rlorange:
Aww don't knock the CRT off its Androids trademark :)
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
I did not know this... I shall Google it...
[Nexus 4 General] maverickronny:
U can simply turn it off in developer options animations , dint u know
[Nexus 4 General] onetik:
I love it and hope they don't get rid of it.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324077704578358420185789616

very interesting article
[Nexus 4 General] jutezak:
Let's just hope that it takes time because there are thinsg to fix on a low (driver) level... stuff like the sensor batching or the audio decoding through DSP... or improving sound quality for recording...

One can only hope... but it would make sense to have matching driver support if possible for a new OS version - and that can take time testing and otherwise.

As I say - let's hope...
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Fear:
any news of ART fix for whatsapp?
[Nexus 4 General] deani77:
Dev only need N4 binaries made available by Google. After that only God's knows what dev will do to custom ROM...
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
That's odd. I don't see that in my developer options. I've never seen it. I even tried the thing where you turn down or off animations and it turn it off. It doesn't. It's OK though. Someone will disable it via either Xposed or custom rom.
[Nexus 4 General] b1337:
that's because he's wrong....
[Nexus 4 General] memphian:
What is this "no enhanced gel"?
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Google Experience Launcher
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
The Google Experience Launcher is a gimmick in my opinion. With the new enhancements every other launcher can look like it (without the annoying GoogleNow page on the left).

What is interesting to me is the enhancements the new binaries will bring, because SurfaceFlinger now supports OpenGL ES 2.0 which will drastically improve the UI's responsiveness (not that it is slow now on our phones, but more performance is always better).
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
The new launcher, com.Google.gel, or "Google Experience Launcher"
[Nexus 4 General] maverickronny:
in developer options there are 3 animation settings, i turn off all 3, and when rebooted this crt tv thing is gone, I dont know if this has happened to only me, but I certainly am not wrong mate

update : just googled, it works for all, u need a reboot though
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
I personally like the Google Now page, its useful for me since I always Google search.
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Orly?
[Nexus 4 General] timbohobbs:
Turn window animations off, reboot, easy:)
[Nexus 4 General] 00Justas:
How to disable google search crashes/reboots?

Does always listening feature drains a lot of battery?

Im using cm 11 (08.11 build)
[Nexus 4 General] b1337:
turning off all animations just to disable one, that seems logical
[Nexus 4 General] timbohobbs:
Well, that's what I do. Makes it feel faster all round, each to their own though
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Change language, search, change back.

And no.
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
I got bored and scoured both android.com and developers.android.com for the differences between the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 running Android 4.4. By my guess, this is what we can expect for the Nexus 4 OTA.

Nexus 4:

Fullscreen album/movie art on lockscreen

Fullscreen Immersion

Faster Multitasking

Android 4.4 dialer

Smart Caller ID

Hangouts SMS + MMS

Emoji Everywhere

Cloud Print built-in

File Managing

Bluetooth MAP support

Chrome web view

Closed Captioning

Redesigned Downloads app

Home Screen Switching

Redesigned Email app

GPU Acceleration

Nexus 5:

Everything from the Nexus 4 list plus:

Transparent Notification and Navigation Bar (maybe)

HDR+

Low-power audio playback

Touchscreen Improvements

Sensor Batching

Step detector and counter

Audio Tunneling to DSP

W-Fi CERTIFIED Miracast

Google Experience Launcher (includes "Ok Google" on home screens and swiping to the left for Google Now)

I’m not sure if transparent navigation/notification bars are exclusive or not to the Nexus 5 because Android.com claims it is:

While developer.android.com doesn’t mention this at all:

To be honest, it feels like the Nexus 4 is getting changes to what the user sees while most of the behind the scenes improvements (audio tunnelling, sensor batching, and low-power audio playback for example) are specific to the Nexus 5.

Still not sure what's going on with the translucent UI but, to be honest, I don't think 4.4 will mean much for Nexus 4 owners and will feel just like Jelly Bean with a (not so new) look.

Sources:

http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
Kinda sux you have to turn off all your animations to get rid of a goofy TV off animation.. It's fine really. Not that big a deal...
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
The transparency can be requested by any app, so if the third-party launchers get updated to include this request command, then we will get the transparent status bar and softkey bar as well.
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Sensor batching IS NOT exclusive. We need to wait until Google publish the new binaries though, because its a driver feature.

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Miracast and Touchscreen Improvements are also non exclusive. The launcher and Google Now integration can be done via the current launcher we use.
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
That must be what Kevin Barry meant when he was talking about Nova Launcher and transparent bars:

Transparent system bars will not be available to all devices.

The system bars are drawn by the SystemUI component, not the launcher. KitKat introduces an API for apps such as Nova Launcher to request that the SystemUI draw these with only a light gradient background. Not all KitKat devices will support this functionality for performance reasons, and Nova will be unable to force it. Also older Android versions are unaware of this new API in KitKat and thus will not get transparent system bars. The exception is that some devices, such as the TouchWiz SGS4, had transparent system bars implemented by the manufacturer skin, and Nova is able to make use of their private APIs for this.

https://plus.google.com/109670429793951665860/posts/4BwdcKy5T2b

At least we'll get transparency elsewhere. Just I still feel like this is even less of an upgrade than 4.3 was to 4.2 in terms of the Nexus 4, 7, and 10.

According to developer.android.com, it is exclusive to the Nexus 5. That entire list is compiled straight from android.com and developer.android.com. The part about sensor batching being exclusive came from developer.android.com so if you don't like it, sorry. :v
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
I think the transparent bits will come to the N4
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
I hope so. With what little we're actually getting, it'd be nice to have a new UI for the next year I'll have this phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Cor-master:
We're getting the transparent bars, only device that isn't is the nexus 10. I really don't get these so called performance issues when my nexus 7 (grouper) could run transparent bars in paranoid android just fine, and by no means is grouper quick
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
I saw the post on that, but I think that comment by the Google devs meant that the feature itself wouldn't be available on the Nexus 10, not just that it wouldn't be used by the default launcher.

As I said, Google themselves is being vague about it. Maybe it's on Android.com that it's Nexus 5 only because it's not used by the Nexus 4 and 7 4.4 launcher BUT it's in the developer.android.com page because it IS available for all (except the 10).

Another thing I'm wondering...if Nexus 5 has Launcher2, what does Launcher3 actually look like? I've been told it's like GEL but without Google Experience.

This is on the developer.android.com page. Look at the Nexus 7 (razor)...maybe that's what 4.4 will look like on the 4, 7, and 10?
[Nexus 4 General] Cor-master:
Yeah it's my understanding is an api. I've heard the new aosp launcher is just like the GEL without gnow integration, doesn't matter much to me because I won't use stock either way, action launcher ftw! The Dev for it already has the transparency support added in too for when we do finally get kit Kat.

Lol so much mystery surrounding it. Seriously funny though how mad people are getting over the fact GEL is a nexus 5 exclusive.... It's like is it really that inconvenient to drag up from home? What the moto x does owns everything, but the GELs take on it is a far cry from motos always on always listening search integration
[Nexus 4 General] ThermoPhysical:
So it's like GEL just with no Google Now?

Google should make a G+ post explaining ALL of this, hah.

I mean the GEL launcher thing I don't care much about. I'm just wanting some battery improvements and whatnot.
[Nexus 4 General] DarkMagician6:
Wouldn't it be pathetic if google would make certain kitkat features Nexus 5 only?

Nexus devices are supposed to show stock Android, not a device specific Android. :/
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Google really aren't helping themselves by promising extremely lower RAM consumption then not updating the Gnex. I know TI can't provide OMAP SoC binaries but if Baldwinguy77 can shove KitKat into it, they should be embarrassed.
[Nexus 4 General] Setting.Out:
Not to mention the nexus s had it only a few days after release, and it works fine..
[Nexus 4 General] andr0id_xda:
They say kitkat run well with low specs devices but nexus 10 can't handle it's transparent bars...
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Exactly! heck even the original Nexus One had 512mb of RAM and a 1GHz Snapdragon Scorpion, if the devs really tried hard enough, there would be ports for that thing available within a month

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Complete BS. The Nexus 10 is FAR more powerful than the Nexus 7 2 and the Nexus 4, it's about 5000+ in Antutu.
[Nexus 4 General] andr0id_xda:
Infact ,that't the point.it should handle very well
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Antutu lol
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
It's the same in any benchmark, GPU or CPU test. in every day performance you can't notice it since Android isn't all that hardware intensive (Don't start a war in the comments, iTrolls)
[Nexus 4 General] acejavelin:
lol... month?!?! They have a booting, alpha version already. https://plus.google.com/u/0/102710594547223731659/posts
[Nexus 4 General] andr0id_xda:
Maybe quadrant :D
[Nexus 4 General] ernestnwanu:
It'd be outrageous if the Google Play Edition devices get it before us lol.

Hell, even a simultaneous update would be lame.

Not because of the wait, but because it was a HTC announcement. Like the Nexus 4 got adopted haha.

Oh well, can't imagine not being on Kitkat by this time next week.

It's just that my obvious Nexus 6(?) purchase isn't as obvious anymore.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
The chipsets found in N4 and N7(2013) are more powerful than the Exynos 5250 with dual-core Cortex processor that N10 sports. But it is true that the GPU found in N10 (Mali-T604) smokes Adreno 320. Whatever the case, this device should be powerful enough to handle a bit of transparency, but it doesn't matter, since we're not in N10 forum here.
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
I don't mind the n5 specific features which are due to hardware dependency

And is it so hard to apk sideload the launcher until it gets full release?!

And waiting a week or two is no big deal, hardly a reason to jump to another manufacturer or phone which will get updates far slower, if at all, plus crippled custom Roms (been there done that)

The whining here is hilarious, I bought nexus for pure Google with great performance and no bloat for a bargain price
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
If a feature is hardware dependent then yeah, eg always listening, low power / tunneling audio

Launcher is different but I'm running it fine on 4.3
[Nexus 4 General] toews:
I currently have my Nexus 4 running Stock 4.3 (JWR66Y) ROM while rooted and have my bootloader unlocked. The only modification I have made to my phone is flashed the LTE enabler and have CWM recovery flashed also.

What steps do I need to take when KK comes out? Do I need to remove my root? Will my data be lost?
[Nexus 4 General] ToledoG28:
As long as i know kk will never come to your phone so dont wait for it. Do some research and you will find it. However i'd been using the nexus 5 port 4.4 and works just beautiful. It is nexus 5 stock rom so if you want to keep stock you dont even have to flash the LTE stuff againg. Just find the network settings and you wil see an LTE option there. It is not the same android version so i can suggest to do a clean install. Backup your data. There is ton of ways to do it. I did not restore any data. If you really waNt to know if a rom works, start from the beginning. This is just my opinion. People can saY hundred of different opinions so make sure to do your own test and try it.
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
I'm pretty sure the LTE enabler changes several system files and maybe a little something about your build.prop so you might just wanna research it but I'm fairly sure an OTA won't stick. There is an OTA help desk thread in here under Nexus 4. Just Google it..
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Has anyone found navbar mods? The default size is driving me insane and interferes with the drastic layout I use, and did I mention how annoyingly intrusive it is?

Sent with Virtue
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I doubt anyone has made one yet. People are probably still focusing their efforts on finishing stuff for 4.3.
[Nexus 4 General] Gallardo994:
Use a custom ROM. 4.4 doesn't have such settings tho
[Nexus 4 General] ernestnwanu:
November 13th is my guess. Isn't that when the N4 came out last year? Also, supposedly there's a Google Search update coming on that day so that's my guess.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
unrooted and stuck my stock recovery and kernel...waiting patiently now for the OTA.as much as i like rooting and flashing custom roms if i can not use some of my apps then it is pointless..i know i trolled a few times here but here is the truth. do i want the update. Yes i do. Do i care when i get it? Not really as there is far more to life to worry about than an update. Will it be great to get it soon though. Yes but it is not the end of the world. Does Google owe us anything for this..Nope
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
i reverted back to 4.3.1 id had enough of KK with apps not working like you i will wait patiently for the OTA update
[Nexus 4 General] -Zeppelin-:
I like the Vanilla Look & Feel but Stock isn't just for me anymore.

So I'll just wait for the source and Purity to get updated. Will happen next week and a few days is really not that long ;)
[Nexus 4 General] onetik:
Personally I feel stock is overrated. It comes with far fewer features than TouchWiz/Sony Launcher etc. Most of the custom ROMs focus on brining these features found standard on other devices to the Nexus stock experience. Also, you can make pretty much any device look stock with just a simple launcher, but you can't do that to the Nexus 4 without rooting/installing roms.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
Even though my favorite combination is rooted stock (+stock launcher) + franco kernel (for colors) I must agree with you. OEM-skinned firmwares come with more customization features than stock vanilla (out of the box).
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
They've added a file explorer into Google Drive, but it's hard to find
[Nexus 4 General] Lt.Win:
I miss the flip to mute on my HTC. Real convenient stuff. I also wish I had some of those nifty motions where you could mute, pause, etc. (I'm not talking about the gimmicky ones, I mean the real useful ones).

The file explorer, MASS STORAGE = SD CARD and the Notification buttons to toggle (no switching sides and where the button is only a shortcut to the actual setting which is lame) from CM and Touchwiz... Sigh. I really wanted some improvements in terms of features in KitKat, but no, Google doesn't plan on changing. But I do... I'll probably switch over to a Samsung or Sony with a very good Developer Support (CM / AOKP / Carbon / Something Else) when this phone goes.

Dissapoint.
[Nexus 4 General] Burnerman_X:
Mass Storage = storage in FAT fs = 4gb file limit...

It's better for Android being 100% ext4 fs, but Windows + Mass Storage in ext4 = not work.

It's funny because MTP + Linux = not work too (it's hard to make it works), in this case mass storage is better.
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
Is it good? I've been away from custom roms for a while. Read about it but never tried it.
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
I like it a lot. it has all the normal stuff, like custom settings tiles e.t.c, but the things I like are the DarkCarbon setting, which turns the UI completely dark, and the fact you can adjust the transparency and icon colours in the notification bar and navbar
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Indeed there were, however early pictures showed the Nexus 5 was identifying itself as a Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
True, they did that to avoid much leakage, but what kind of company would create a factory image for their new device, release it along with the device, and ONLY THEN begin work on the new firmware for older devices? *cough*OEMs*cough*
[Nexus 4 General] m0fizor:
Did any of you think that 4.4 KitKat is just a "beta" for Android 5.0 Lettuce Soup?

I think about they introduced ART for developers to accommodate with it and then release the full version of it. ART can represent a major change from 4.x to 5.0 and that's why Kit Kat is 4.4 and not 5.0.

And maybe, with 5.0 they will probably change the interface.:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
ART will become the standard runtime in 4.5 or 5.0, whichever is next. ART has no disadvantages to dalvik apart from the fact some older apps are incompatible with it, which can be solved with updates. the advantage of it is unlike dalvik, the top half of the screen doesn't get rendered any slower than the bottom, making it appear much smoother. ART, fsTRIM, low RAM commits among the rest are Google's take on android's lag.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxyfitankit:
Google

https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3507867?hl=en#

Guys here's the link use it and fill the Google kitkat page with all complains let them know whom they are messing... We all made them let them know the power of peoples
[Nexus 4 General] aloarayacr:
Some people at Android Forums are saying that Kit Kat might be roll out form N4, 13th of November, N4 Anniversary
[Nexus 4 General] Assis Brandão:
Will be coming out tomorrow?
[Nexus 4 General] galaxyfitankit:
Is it 4.3 or 4.4 bro on which version you're...I guess you still on 4.2 ... coz it's still jellybean not kitkat..
[Nexus 4 General] Assis Brandão:
Did not read the message?

Download 4.3 via Wifi only until November 10th
[Nexus 4 General] sherbibv:
I think that is saying that the download(4.3 version) will be done until 10th of November. Or at least that's what i think
[Nexus 4 General] fredbileu:
The screenshot is in Portuguese. Most people won't be able to understand it. :p

Yes. The update from 4.2 to 4.3 will only be available untill today (10th November) according to the screenshot.
[Nexus 4 General] AnotherBill:
It is odd that they put a time frame on that but looking at past updates shows that it has been saying it that way for months, just with a different 'till...' date. I saw one screenshot that said 'until Aug 3'.
[Nexus 4 General] hazzamon:
No, it means that after the 10th November you will be able to download the update over a 3G connection too.
[Nexus 4 General] Assis Brandão:
Accurate, may indicate that the next day from the 10 will be 4.4

Enviado de meu Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
It means nothing. We had similar situation before with 4.2.2 OTA.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Well, i'm not mad about the missing features like the GEL or the always listening feature of GoogleNow... it's just that the waiting is kind of unusual for a Nexus device, that's all.

I heard that there were similar problems with the first N7, Qualcomm throwing a hissy fit about releasing their proprietary binaries, but that kind of passed me by since I got mine after that happened.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
The way I always feel right before an update is antsy and excited, always checking for it, but unless my phone was limitedby being on older firmware (janky before jelly bean, no multitasking before ios4 etc) it isn't a big deal to wait....

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Sent by my right hand, on a rare occasion when it is not otherwise engaged.

{Nexus ⁴ stock unrooted 4.3 with Kii Keyboard.}
[Nexus 4 General] soupmagnet:
1206

<-- That's the number of posts that have been deleted from this thread since it was created, and that's not counting posts that have been edited or overlooked (Has anyone noticed that's more than the number posts that still remain?). The number of users in this thread who have been arguing, trolling, complaining, or veering off topic is downright staggering. Even more disturbing though, is the fact that since the last time I cleaned this thread, no more than 2 reports have been sent to the moderators to have it addressed, when it could have easily warranted hundreds more.

So, from this point moving forward, this thread is to remain

on topic

...period. Discussion in this thread is restricted to, as per the OP, the discussion of "tips, tricks, bugs, quirks, guides, feedback, opinions, impressions etc." for the 4.4 (KitKat) version of Android, in regards to the Google Nexus 4 phone. There will be no more arguing, trolling, discussion about other phones/devices, Google's business practices, or.....wait for it.....when the next update will be released.

That's right. There will be no more discussion about when Android 4.4 will be released to this or any other device until it is

actually released

. I'm sorry to have to say it, but there are too many users here that clearly cannot handle the responsibility of such a discussion and it cannot be allowed to continue any further.

And since the last message I posted here was apparently overlooked by so many people, I will leave this thread closed and "stickied" to the top of this forum for the next day or so to give everyone a chance to read it this time. After such time it will be reopened. In the meantime, please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the "Message from the moderators" thread posted at the top of this forum. Anyone not found to be adhering the to rules/guidelines outlined there or in this post, will be addressed accordingly.

Thank you

to all of those who, despite the deluge of nonsense that was poisoning this thread, continued to try and keep the discussion going in the right direction. Your efforts are very much appreciated. :good:

Best regards to you all,

soupmagnet
[Nexus 4 General] soupmagnet:
Thread reopened.

I trust this is the end of the nonsense now?
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Ok guys as the Forum mod as said. Lets knock off the BS. You all should know me and know I have a zero BS policy. So If I com back in here and the mods warnings have not been followed you all know what comes next.
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
Good news for those who want it, the GEL looks to be coming to the N4. Whether now or in the future, who knows, but I think it's coming.
[Nexus 4 General] rohit3221:
Considering Google Now is now available to all JB devices, and GEL being a part of Google Now, does that mean we will also get GEL officially from google now (I know we can always install the apk)