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[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
Only way to prove this is if someone with kwv 0x1 snapdragon model goes to Samsung with apparent hardware failure and see if they reset it. Without a motherboard change
[Galaxy Note 3 General] phr3ncj:
one guy has done it and he states (with photos) that last line in download mode was changed from A1,B1 etc to A2,B2 etc. we have absolutely to find what those letters and numbers refer to. imho they refer to which set of qfuses is being utilized in that moment and probably those informations stay in the rpmb, like the simple kwv flag on exynos models.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] bakakun028:
I want referring to those posts. Just my quote function didn't work. But I agree, the post about efuses was quite informative.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Shreqg2:
I'm not sure if these letters depends on used set of fuses. I can remember that they have changed for me from 1 to 2 after simple firmware updating. And of course KNOX was still 0x1. Maybe they gave that guy his phone with KNOX 0x0, but also updated FW?

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mahmoud007:
this does not make any sense ??

if we follow this method then the electric value of that fuse should be 0 or null .. which is wrong in our case !

the hex value refere that there is some data is got unlocked or got through the value should be 1 or in hex 0xfffffff as in kernel panic status .

as i say i dont understand much about sql language or anything but i know about data signals and electric signal which in that case logecally just wrong !!

kernel only gives a value if data got through this path
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WormsCH:
A Qfuse with a "not gate" or maybe just a "not in software" i.e. if Qfuse bit is "1" (unburned) = warrenty is still there, then show 0x0 for the warranty void line.

if Qfuse bit is 0 that mean that no more warranty then show 0x1 in warranty void line.

the value 0x0 or 0x1 is a hex value shown by the bootloader, that not mean that's the raw value of Qfuse.

A way to "reset this knox warrenty" is to act how the bootloader read this value or where the bootloader read this value.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
It's not important which exact value the system reads ...

Important is that such a fuse can be written only once but can be read unlimited.

So the system can always check whether or not the fuse has been written and there is no way back.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ghibli3:
If can be usefull i have the same value after my motherboard has been changed (Hard Brick), so i have this line:

RP SWREV: S2, T2, R2, A2, P2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
What android version are you using?

For me it's all the same except I have P0 I'm using stock mk2 btu
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Shreqg2:
Mine is S2 T2 R2 A3 P2 without changing motherboard or anything... it was rising almost every time I was upgrading FW. Now I'm using XEO 4.4.2 ROM (NB3)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] ghibli3:
Stock MK2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tkaragoz:
voided

2 days ago, I've voided my knox too.

I bought that phone to enjoy it.

S**** knox have never ever prevent to install custom roms or mods!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ghibli3:
I think if you needed assistance with samsung and the Knox set to 1, a solution could be voluntarily hard brick your phone.

The assistance does not have time to try to retrieve the phone and replaces motherboard with no problems ...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tkaragoz:
Ok that is a good solution but we have to find a good way to destroy or erase our phone's nand fully.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ghibli3:
My Hard Brick copy all first part of nand from the beginnig including all file *.mbn , so we can also copy all "FF" or "00" but i don't think is necessary

Anyway for me it's possible erase all after HB with Qualcomm QPST
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
Hard bricking completely may be possible but I'm just wondering what if the secure boot sector remains untouched or the fact of qfuses?

If Samsung were to look into this after the amount of hardware returns they would be getting. The secure sector would still hold the information linked to Knox or even if this Qfuse thing is really in our phone they would just look at that?

They might send you a phone with a new board but may state a charge later down the line if they found out it were down to the consumer wanting to make a false claim just to reset Knox.

If your gonna do that might as well insure your phone and hope someone steals it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hey_joe:
I will gladly do that if somebody ask me :D

You don't need to hope for somebody to steal it. Just keep it and claim the warranty.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sliyk:
I have a UK 3 branded note 3 although it is unlocked. How do I find out if it's snapdragon or the other one
[Galaxy Note 3 General] thelostlegend:
Settings > model number

N9005 = snapdragon

N900 = Exynos

Sent from my SM-N900
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Snowman:
Try CPU-Z from play store.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sliyk:
Ah thanks it's a 9005 damn
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Spere:
Just wanted to say this.

Since there have been a lot discussion if Samsung can reset KWV without replacing motherboard or not. Some say they did so - other believe service center changed motherboard to reset KWV. Then there have been talk about marking motherboard somehow before sending to repair so you know if they changed it or not.

Okay then. How hard it is really to mark motherboard? Super easy. Everybody should mark it when sending to warranty repait to see if MB is replaced or not.

I just disassembled my Note 3 to clean proximity sensor. When I hold motherboard in my hand I realized that SIM- / Memorycard "holder" is soldered to motherboard (Isn't it obvious lol?)

So to mark motherboard you don't need to take any else part off than back cover.

See pictures:

Motherboard

Card holder

Edit: Attachment shows what I did.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bungadudu:
Perfect!

I've looked online and indeed a replacement pcb comes with sim slot & card holder soldered.

So next we need someone who knows about services which can reset knox to test this.

Once and for all!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] siriom:
yup

Totally agree with you . I hope when a Note 3 method is found a note 2 reset method will follow.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
me too, i am glad if it would be as soon.as possible, because there kitkat update is comming
[Galaxy Note 3 General] siriom:
You can install 4.4.2 already . just flash it . Personally dont care if the knox counter is 1 , it doesnt stop or help me change my phone ... the only reason people care is cos warranty is void...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
Just wondering all these new devices that get updated to include knox. where is the knox info stored for them? Does it create a new partition with the pit? Or just hidden somewhere in the current system structure?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] siriom:
Just checked . My Note 2 7105 Lte is Exynos.

Lets hope its doable
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
so are you planning to send back your device with KWV 0x1? or is this if anything does go wrong?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Spere:
Just in case (I hope I never have to use any repair services).. and that post was sent as info to anyone who have to use repair service when KWV is 0x1.

Many have sent phone to repair and said that Samsung did reset their KWV back to 0x0 without changing motherboard. But they didn't have any mark on motherboard so they just can't know 100% sure if Samsung really didn't change it fact.

If you have to send phone to repair with Knox 0x1, it takes you a whole 30 seconds to make some mark on motherboard. If you get your phone back with KWV 0x0, you don't need to speculate if they changed MB to reset it or not. Just check your mark. If it's still there, MB was most likely not changed. If it's not there MB was changed for sure :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aaditya9369:
reset knox on note2

hey

can you give tips to reset knox counter on note 2 or old bootloader without knox warranty void status ??

plz
[Galaxy Note 3 General] EnhancerFIN:
Yes, I will send them to you as a PM to avoid getting the 3K$ bounty which this thread is all about.

Is it just me, or does someone else think XDA is invaded by some people who can write but not read?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xTee:
Potato?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ariess.lee:
Has anyone view this video...

forums.androidcentral.com/t-samsung-galaxy-note-3/335709-unrooting-t-note-3-resetting-knox.html

it said that can resetting knox from 0x0 to 0x1....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hey_joe:
Just watched it and you can see the phone he said didn't come with knox actually has it's knox tripped already. No amount of restoring to stock will revert knox back to 0x0, at least for now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonicia:
I didn't see a google docs link or anything to put in money towards the bounty, thought that may be a good idea, but I pledge $20.

I don't really see samsung hardwiring a trip fuse, but I suppose if they're that concerned it would be the way to go. My 2 cents... If they did all that then why not make the trip for root altogether? What is the point in doing any of this?

HTC has been locking things down for awhile now and if those awesome devs can deal with the EVO 3d and the EVO 4G LTE like they did then maybe we should try and get some of them on board? I will look into it actually.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] siriom:
Any news from the 2 people who previously had managed to get this done ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] deeppalei:
Just Look out.

http://worldmobileus.blogspot.in/2013/12/updated-restore-for-mj5-knox-0x0.html

is this link is helpfull ????

need attension :D:D:D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonicia:
One of the guys I got in touch with isn't about having anything to do with Samsung, lol. Will ask the guy who actually got rid of the "tampered" bootloader. Didn't seem to be a huge deal @ the time, but this is probably a wee bit more tough.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] siriom:
What about the dude who posted the movie of the note 3 all open and resetting the bit twice ?

said something about it being stored in the last 128k of the second partition or something?

---------- Post added at 08:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:10 PM ----------

Anyone try this yet?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonicia:
Think that's more of a lead for someone that is capable of cracking it.

This is probably a bad spot to ask, but does everyone's (rooted, custom rom) phone throw up "kernel seandroid is not enforcing" on the boot screen? Figure it's just there bc it's rooted. This is my first Samsung phone since the first Samsung touch screen phone (not android, touch screen software failed on 3 different phones), it was a horrible phone to say the least. This note 3 is really night and day.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pbedard:
Removed Knox all together hehe
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bakakun028:
Yea. Mine says that too. It makes the phone appear as if something is terribly wrong upon boot..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75DKAGNstbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Guys isn't it possible to do this to note 3 firmware?, I mean knox is obviously software and the Same across most of the Samsung devices and the guy claims knox is gone with no knox warranty void messages or counter present and the device works as it should after removing the knox bootloaders repacking and flashing and its rooted ,maybe it is only possible with untripped counters but maybe those who are tripped can get reset at service center and flash a possible cleaned stock rom as in the video and be knox free in the end we all can only hope.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WormsCH:
according to the article:

(who came originaly from xda...)

- No downgrade possible with Note 3 (except the N900W8)

- Note 3 released directly with a knox and secure bootloader, so, no way to flash a knox free bootloader (only for now I hop :/)

We may just hope samsung will leak a magic open bootloader who allow to downgrade and reset knox or someone will make it and sign it with the correct secret key :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pRo_lama:
Look. Android 4.2.2 doesn't has KNOX bootloader. Only 4.3 ROMs and higher. So it's fake. :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sedinix:
I think we should not look for how reset knox but simple how make it shows 0x0 because all of us don't need to have knox 0x0 we just want to try rooted roms etc and have a warranty maybe is a trick that can read knox 0x1 and display 0x0 I think its a solution. Who agree ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Spere:
Ba dum tsss
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pleXx-0:
Actually you are wrong, S4 Mini has KNOX bootloader on 4.2.2. from MJ7 rom...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] latouffe:
Well... Heres a quote from the s4mini knox walkthrough:

"Now before you begin, you need to make sure that you don't already have the KNOX bootloader. A way to test this would be to head into Download mode and see if you have anything that states "KNOX". If you don't, you're all good. If you already have KNOX warranty, you will be stuck with the KNOX flag and you may just ignore this post as you cannot remove it."
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
Its just gotta be possible some way,form or manner I mean if you took the stock rom and ripped out all the knox bootloaders then repack it and flash it, then it should be possible somehow I mean isn't the tattle tale within the knox bootloaders?,and if they're not there when you flash it should be fine especially if your not already tripped and your just flashing a stock rom cleaned of the triggers in the knox bootloaders then it would be knox tattle tale free and you wouldn't trip any counter because there wouldn't be a software based counter anymore after cleaning up the stock rom, JMO guys I was thinking out loud.

:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
Maybe the key is to come up with our own custom PKI CERTIFICATES (Public Key Infrastructure) for the first, second and third bootloader checks and a custom Samsung root of trust certificate for kernels for the final checks and then we could incorporate them into custom roms and kernels, theoretically it would always be KWV 0X0, just an idea.

:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stantemo:
Here's how I see it. The only reason we're interested in reversing Knox trigger is because Samsung is/was being a d*ck against us, their loyal customers, by not clarifing how the hardware warranty is affected if Knox is triggered.

So... What if instead of reversing the counter "we" "just hack” the memory where knox protected data is stored and exposes it. This would force Samsung to accept all Knox triggered devices under warranty since there would be no difference in regular storage and Knox protected storage.

Probably not the easiest thing to do but if Knox can decrypt the data I'll bet my right arm there is a flaw in the security :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Firefishe:
How Did You Remove Knox?

You did? If so, how? I have the N900A and would love to have a way to remove the entire knox subsystem, bootloader and all, and replace them with a stock bootloader with no security restrictions, even if I have to write the code, myself.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WormsCH:
lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BABAK236:
Hi Guys

As you know in previous my post (Reset Warranty BIT for I9500),....i found way and trip for "Reset Warranty BIT 1 for SM-N900"

But same as I9500,only way is Jtaging.(By Me until now)

anyway,...if anyone can "work/make/develop" This Solution,I have all needed info (files/address/data/trick)...so,Please Contact Me via email/ICQ/Sonork/GSM-Housting

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
maybe chainfire can do this job with you
[Galaxy Note 3 General] santij07:
I agree too, you need to communicate with Chainfire to do this work together, join forces.:laugh::good::D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
I also agree please get with [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] :thumbup:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PhotoMaster:
In titanium backup and restore, there is the ability to freeze apps, making the unusable without deleting them. Does anyone know if you can freeze the Knox apps safely or will doing so brick it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
It's not possible it's in the bootloader and physical chips on the phone and titanium cannot touch those.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stantemo:
Yes, doing so doesn't brick.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
Lol there is 2 parts to knox. That is the software security stuff that has nothing to do with knox warranty that is in the bootloader and chips. But in conjunction they are Samsung new total enterprise security suite. In other words you can freeze or delete all the knox software and still have knox warranty stuff still on the phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
Maybe its an NSA back door :eek:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stantemo:
Yes, but PhotoMaster didn't ask for that. He/she asked if freezing Knox apps would render the Note unusable, hence my reply.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bishopandme:
hello guys!

"Jtag/software program or anything at all that involves the users having to make purchases." my question is, what's Jtag pl?

Thx!

B :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
I have them deleted on my phone and I am all good. Until you know be safe and freeze them.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BABAK236:
Hi

How can i find him...? Anyone have any messenger id for he?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mr sharpey:
https://twitter.com/ChainfireXDA
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pRo_lama:
He is very active on Google+. Just search his nick. Or here is his web - http://www.chainfire.eu
[Galaxy Note 3 General] swnt:
Can we start a new thread with the fix that is supposedly working using a jtag?

Just so that information on it is not lost if it does turn out to be useful.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PherChe:
Let me know if I understand. I got a Note 3 N900w8 so it's impossible. I reset knox count because my phone has a snapdragon heart?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
Possible yes but not obtainable yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
So Samsung have just announced Knox 2.0

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/25/...0594&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

It will be interesting to see if those users with Knox triggered devices will update to the new version and whether Samsung allows us to wipe the slate clean....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] newxdabie:
i have reflashed to official rom and wiped counter numero, tomorrow i will take my note 2 back the samsung assistance center to ask for resetting knox counter, i have no invoice with me, i pray it will be no cust and succeed
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TTLayland:
Pledge

I am donating $35

I have some links I would like many of you to read so that you can understand these Qfuses more.

I had to deal with them with my Atrix HD. Honestly I believe our only chance involves finding a way to not trip Knox while also finding an exploit that would allow unsigned kernels etc.

Essentially we need Dan Rosenberg.

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/05/exploiting-samsung-galaxy-s4-secure-boot.html
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Omar04:
I read everything. Interesting stuff.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
On my good old Motorola Defy there is a locked bootloader too but the guys found a way to let boot the original kernel first and to switch to a custom kernel later (2nd boot). But this will not reset a tripped knox bit ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
I'd take the JTAG stuff with a MASSIVE pinch of salt currently... No actual proof it works on the Note 3

Seen that yesterday evening, how long til Samsung push KNOX 2.0 upon us...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TTLayland:
I have Knox 0x0 and honestly for those with 0x1 I believe you are screwed. This is another case of making a choice between warranty and custom.

Here's to hoping we get a solution like the Motorola Defy or Galaxy S4. Something that can bypass knox and let us load our own software without setting off the 0x1 flag. If that's not possible then I don't mind tripping Knox if it means unlocked bootloader.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
0x1 is not the choice between 'warranty' of the hardware or nothing. The warranty bit only warrants that the knox container hasn't been tampered with. If any service center refuses to fix the handset within the devices warranty period for that then you would be wise to approach whatever consumer watchdog entity your government runs. Knox warranty bit != phone warranty.

WTF is with the image verification, I can barely understand one in 10.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DON AMIGO:
why not the famous devs join forces to defeat this knox ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrate:
This morning in the german news, a Samsung representative from the MWC in Barcelona said that the Galaxy S5 includes a fingerprint sensor within the home button and that the data of this sensor will not be uploaded to any server or cloud. Instead this data will be locally stored on the device.

Now my personal guess is that this data will be stored in a secured KNOX container. But what will happen if you root the Galaxy S5? Maybe KWV 0x1 and lose KNOX possibilities like it is the case on the Note 3? Maybe we then lose the fingerprint feature of the Galaxy S5? Hell this is a nightmare...

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] ariess.lee:
Mega 6.3 i9200 with knox

I have galaxy mega 6.3 i9200 with 4.1.2, and i update to official 4.2.2 with wifi and now it has knox waranty.... OMG :crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mulletmeister:
I seem to recall reading about the 'warranty' issues. In Europe we get a 2 year warranty. Now correct me if I'm wrong but if it can be proved that the fault is with the 'hardware' then the warranty has to be applied. This can, apparently, be proven by removing the custom rom, reflashing stock, and if the offending fault is still there, then it is deemed a 'hardware' fault and not by tampering with the operating system. Samsungs warranty leaflet states "The warranty is not applicable in causes other than defects in material, design and workmanship". It does go on about failure due to third party software not approved.....etc... Surely the software line would mean the playstore apps?? Talking of software, how many reports are there of Kies tripping the knox to 0x1??

There is a whole can of worms here, and I will NEVER buy another Samsung product.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hamad138:
the new Knox have double Sandbox,

HAVE FUN FOR CRACKING THAT :good::good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
This might be a stupid question but has anyone tried the dialer code for a full factory reset *2767*3855# ? not the plain factory reset wich is *#7780# but the full factory reset *2767*3855# , I have not since I'm still KWV 0X0 and was just wondering, again it may be a stupid question but you never know it may be something simply over looked because the best way to hide something is in plain sight we could only hope :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] santij07:
This is a waste of time, we have about 4 months or more and there is not a real solution to reset Knox, by this time was to have a solution but I doubt that it can already do something, Chainfire are quiet, nobody says anything just speculation, and don't say nothing about the jtag box that's not what we wanted, the only I can say is that Sammy won the battle. :(:crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] motohip:
Holy crap, the bounty! Am I going to have a problem trading in my phone with the JUMP program because of the Knox count?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
HTC One Max disables the fingerprint scanner if you unlock the Bootloader or root IIRC - So I assume Samsung will probably implement a similar feature no doubt.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] akdenizx:
I pledge 10$ here!

It seems like impossible but will be waiting.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] 2ronakkothari:
Hahahahah! that's great.. but then samsung will find out that culprit and fire him. They will then issue another software update fixing it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WormsCH:
[MENTION=225651]op[/MENTION] You missed some pledge. Be carfule.

I'm adding 30$.

N9005 MJ7 Unrooted :(

knox 0x0.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
He recently said he was going on vacation for a month. I am sure he will update the op when he gets back.