yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Misterjunky:
re: i9500

Unfortunately there is no Wicked rom for the i9500 international Galaxy S4.

But there will be a custom Wicked rom for the new Samsung Galaxy Note 3 later on today here in xda for the Tmobile people.

If you want to flash an excellent full featured custom rom for your i9500 give Omega v14.1 custom rom a try.

Here is the link for the Omega custom rom for the i9500 Galaxy S4 phone: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2232887
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] shlomicthailand:
thanks for the info.

maybe you can explain why after restart the s voice is not working but if i reinstall it - it works just fine .(i described above)

i'm very curious to know why

thanks again
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] risidoro:
Hi all,

XDA Atom official specs here.

PRO:

- 416MHz Intel Bulverde CPU

- 128 MB storage, 64 RAM

- WM 5.0

- 262K colors

- WiFi 802.11b

- EDGE

- Radio FM

- Bluetooth 1.2 with: headset, hands-free, object push, serial port, dial-up network, advanced audio distribution (A2DP), Audio/Video Remote Control (AVRCP)

- 2.0 MPixel Camera with led flash

- stereo speaker

CONS:

- 2.7 inches screen (magician is 2.8 )

- miniSD slot !!!

It seems a good successor for our magician, ways better than MDA Compact II; miniSD slot however it's a great disadvantage!

Bye
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gogol:
What is the biggest size of mini-SD ? 512 MB ? 1024 MB ?

Which one will you buy ? ATOM or WIZARD ? and WHY ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Matterhorn:
I won't buy a Wizard, too fat, too slow, and I don't need a wobbly keyboard.

I may buy the Atom because small size is 75% of what I'm looking for in a PPC phone. The Atom appears to be the smallest device with the most screen real estate possible. Eventually future models will get even thinner. I'll wait for a few reviews before taking the plunge. Meanwhile my Jam works just fine.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kneeslasher:
416MHz? The same as the Magician? Does this mean ROM compatibility?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] risidoro:
My old Pentium II at school had a 400MHz CPU too but i don't think it was ROM-compatible with our magician!!!

But we can cross our fingers... ;)

Bye bye,

Isidoro
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] arg0:
CPU is the same (Intel PXA272 416MHz) but since the manufacturing company is different (Quanta instead of HTC), I doubt that the rest of the hardware is the same. Different hardware => different drivers => different ROMs :'(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] skagen:
According to mobile-review.com, the camera is not 2.0 Megapixel at all. It is the exact same old crapola camera with "software enhancement"/interpolation/whatever.

Other than that, the specs look good. Hopefully its a decent one.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] uccoffee:
http://www.mrpalm.com/getcontent3_ppc.php?tid=380

Lots of photos of the Atom here~~

the articles is in thai thou....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
The specifications say that it is a 2 MP CMOS Camera. The CMOS implies that it is not software interpolation. However, as has been said may times, 2MP guarantees size but not quality!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] skagen:
CMOS refers to a type of sensor - its nothing to do with the size of it (megapixels). The digital camera world is notorious for including these misleading "interpolation" specs as the specs of the lens, then explaining it in fine print elsewhere.

If this model features the same camera/lens as is found in the Wizard, then its a 1.3MP camera. Read here:

If its clearly known that this in the Atom is an entire different lens fromw hat is found in the sister models, that's one thing - okay. But given that these are all essentially mix-and-match models, built on the same generation, of the same platform, honestly I wouldn't hold your breath on that.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] zohaer21:
cmos is the camera ppc and nokia etc phones use (cause it uses less power) teh digital cameras have ccd (or something like this )lenses

the ccd camera of 1.3 megs resolution is better than cmos 1.3 camera

so dont hold your breath for the cmos 1.3 camera on the ATOM
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] arg0:
To see some pics taken with the atom, go here:

http://www.mrpalm.com/getcontent3_ppc.php?tid=380&p=2

and click on the links: there are 6 photos of phones and cameras, taken with the atom.

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0009.jpg

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0007.jpg

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0008.jpg

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0010.jpg

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0013.jpg

http://www.mrpalm.com/mainnews2/review_atom/realpic/Photo_0005.jpg

Just I guess, since I don't understand a word of Thai...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
I'm with you completely on this. What I meant is that usually when they say "2MP CMOS" they mean that the CMOS sensor is capable of reading 2MP.

When the resolution is interpolated they would say something like 2MP (1.3MP CMOS).

But this depends on how honest the company wants to be. It can be very misleading!
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
Hi devs... it is a sincere request from you all...

Here in XDA, we dont have any thread related to Xiaomi's Mi2/2s.

I hope by now people have heard enough about Xiaomi as their latest flagship model is getting shipped soon... Mi3

I request the developers of Omni ROM to support Xiaomi devices, especially Mi2/2S pls just like other CM , AOSP & AOKP ROMs r doing...

Waiting for your reply... Thanks in advance....
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
Xiaomi are notorious for being flagrant GPL violators, so - highly unlikely.

Just like CM, the real deciding factor for support is, "will a maintainer pick it up?"
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
Oh come on... please don't punish the users based on company's attitude...

It is a great phone with great UI. just like Nexus 4 it has similar hardware.

All we request here is where ever a new developer wants to build a open sourced ROM, they say not to touch Xiaomi... & everybody wants to build a ROM for Nexus & other phones where they have too many options already...

This is not fair & is not necessary for Nexus & other phone models where they already have too many options available.

I am not saying that you shouldn't , but think in my way also pls.... As you may be aware of there are so many Xiaomi Mi2/2S users alone in Europe & other countries also... but the main problem is lack of good development support. only we should depend on the MIUI developers who keep releasing new build with minimal features based on 4.1.1 version. I mean , we are expecting 4.4 release soon & MIUI is still based on 4.1.1

come on man what the heck is going on... right ?i think always the same like this.... but what to do.. who will listen to our outcry ?

I thought atleast devs here care for our requests.... hence i gave it a go.... I really hope you understand our problem & support this device....

atleast consider from the users aspect pls... Thanks for understanding..... Take care.

I dont have any intention of being rude or arrogant here, i am just expressing my helplessness & pleading the devs for the betterment of android on all Xiaomi devices....

thats all... Thanks once again....:o
[Omni Q&A] tilal6991:
I think you misunderstood. Without the kernel source it is pretty much impossible to support the device regardless of whether a dev wants to or not - we can't change that.
[Omni Q&A] pulser_g2:
Without kernel source and either platform reference sources, or a good idea of them...you simply can't go making ROMs...

That's why you don't have any. If you really care about custom ROM support, I'm afraid you need to ensure you only buy from GPL compliant suppliers, who use chip sets with good support in open source projects.

Also the prevalence of the device is significant, and I'm yet to see any of those devices in real life...ever... And I'm a phone geek...

If there aren't many out there, the chance of a developer inclined to get it working on any ROM is lower, as they are less likely to even have one.
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
Yup. If you want a device that has good developer support, do research before buying it. If it's a company that flagrantly violates the GPL on a regular basis - why are you giving them your money?

Basically, I am not spending my volunteer spare time to support a company that is engaging in the practice of managing to steal that which is practically given to them for free.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
But seems that Xiaomi will set the kernel source free soon.

At least they said that..

http://miuiandroid.com/2013/09/17/exclusive-xiaomi-mi-device-kernel-will-open-sourced/

They are great phones with a great software/hardware optimization,
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
I have an update for you ! Xiaomi releases their source code on 25th October .

Also there is one more hard working developer who without the Xiaomi's sources, has achieved what you are calling as unlikely & next to impossible... only problem for his ROM is camera driver.

He has a thread here in XDA also...

Fine if you all developers have already decided that you only develop or cook ROM for the well known models... it is ur wish. My wish i expressed & likewise you have also done your part.

And to all those who think Xiaomi is not a major player in Mobile industry & who have a false impression that it is just an another Chinese company... should do their research on their different models, their softwares , their track records & demand for their phone models & excellent hardware at best price. I agree they are not bigger than Google, but they are growing at a faster pace. I am not here to boast about that company, but i just shared my 3 months knowledge after buying Xiaomi Mi2S for the first time. Before that i was unaware of this company & had a same opinion like many of the people here have it....

Anyway... if Xiaomi releases for sure on 25th & my favorite developer releases his complete ROM.... pls delete this thread & i don't bother you guys also. It is almost perfect without camera.... thats why i am not using it for daily purpose.... may be you all should take a look at his work once.... AWESOME !

OK guys, dont think that i am trolling here or boasting here or something else.. i am just telling you the facts about my phone & the company which makes it....

Hoping to get a good & positive response from you all... :confused:
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
If Xiaomi makes major changes to their policy of rampant intellectual property theft, maybe things will change.

But in general, for a developer, our most limited resource is time. As a result, it's far better to work with a company that cooperates with the community and treats them with respect (Oppo, Sony, Google's Nexus devices) than one who constantly treats them like ****.

There's also the principle of the thing. I absolutely 100% refuse to work with the devices of any company that commits frequent GPL violations. Even if Xiaomi finally stops violating the GPL, they'll have to work hard for their long-standing track record of extremely poor behavior.

Same reason Samsungs are currently near the very bottom of my priority list, despite them having lots of users. Being lied to shamelessly on a regular basis (such as claiming that N8013 UEALGB was a "leak" and they didn't have to provide kernel source matching that build, despite it being preinstalled on every N8013 sold in the USA) leaves a lasting negative impression.
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
We should soon see a forum on here. The only reason it wasn't is because they want the source code and we should have that Oct 25 the can't wait.

Ive had my xiaomi mi2 for a little over a month and really like it. Can't wait til we see a forum Here.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
And do you think once the kernel is released some dev could enable the LTE in Mi2S?

Seems that the processor Snapdragon 600 has LTE integrated.

But maybe is not that easy...
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
Its not possible. Its not set up for it. Its a hardware change to get lte. The mi3 is 3g only so the earliest I see lte is mi3s.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
A hardware change?? But the snapdragon 600 has not the LTE chip integrated? Samsung S4 has the same processor and has LTE...

I am not an expert, just wondering...
[Omni Q&A] Demazda:
Yes, the S600 does have LTE built-in.

But if the device does not have LTE amplifier on board, you could enable/use LTE, but you'll get really poor network reception.

It's already been done on the Nexus 4, but was not really usable as-is. The lack of amplifier makes it a bad idea. It's only good for the proof-of-concept.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
I understand now.. it's a pity... Thank you for the info.

Now the question is, would you buy a phone like Mi2S without LTE,?

now that the 4g is extending more and more, and thinking that the phone should last at least 2 years... I am not sure if i should buy it or not...
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25

Pay close attention to the RFFE block in the first diagram.

The Snapdragon 600 has NO integrated modem. The MDM9xxx does support LTE, IF paired with a WTR1605L - not every device has an L variant, and even if it does, band support requires the right components (PAs, filters) in the RFFE chain.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
Yes, seems clear that Xiaomis Mi22s/a will never support LTE.

Waiting for Nexus 5 to choose my next phone...!
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
Ok guys, is there any point in maintaining this thread ?

when no dev is really interested in working on this one of the best hardware phone ?

I mean other than off topic discussion, nothing really in particular to ROM Dev for Mi2/2S going on in this thread especially.

It is upto the Moderator to decide what best can be done for the fate of this thread & hence Xiaomi Mi2/2S !!!

Thanks a lot for your precious time.

Take care.
[Omni Q&A] cregi:
OK guys ;) so the Xiaomi kernel is already open sourced. That's a good new.

Will we see a forum here soon??
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
Hi

I think this might attract the attention of developers especially Entropy, Pulsar & other prominent persons...

waiting for their final word on the development of Omni ROM for Mi2....
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
While they may finally have, after YEARS of flagrant violation for the GPL, at least published their kernel source, that doesn't make years of blatant theft (managing to steal something given to them free by violating the GPL) right, doesn't make years of creditless kanging right (While the Apache license meant that kanging the Apache-licensed Cyanogenmod components was legal, MIUI's creditless kanging isn't ethical) and doesn't make them developer-friendly at all.

Someone else is welcome to bash their head against this device, but don't expect anyone to go out of their way to support a company with a long track record of treating developers with even less respect than Samsung.
[Omni Q&A] plikmuny:
So, this means a clear NO from your side bro ?

out of curiosity, at least one dev will show interest in this device ?
[Omni Q&A] Entropy512:
From me, personally - that's right. I have no interest in rewarding a company as shady as Xiaomi with any of my free time.
[Omni Q&A] tilal6991:
And I have to say you'll probably find that Entropy's opinion to be the case for many devs (including myself).
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
There will be some development going on don't worry. Many people like miui and xiaomi. Miui is a extremely popular ROM. There are already some ROMs like cynogenmod available for it.
[Omni Q&A] grenness:
Sorry for waking up this thread if I have missed some critical info elsewhere, but if Xiaomi now at least is on par with the GPL regulations (although they have a shady past), wouldn't it be possible to create a Xiaomi forum - if only to see whether any devs shows interest in developing for the Xiaomi handsets?

If response is low, it would be a clear message to Xiaomi (and Hugo Barra) that the community is still pissed.
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
No it will take more then just that. There has to be a need for them to get a forum. Meaning there will have to be a large amount of development for a device before it gets a forum. This OEM has a long way to go before it redeems its self in the eyes of developers.

Also as this device is mainly available only in Asia I would not expect a large developer focus on it.

Bat cave One
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
There are many Roms for this phone. Lots of development at xiaomi.EU and there are a lot of people outside of Asia who use this phone. In Europe and north and south america.

There is a good variety of Roms like cygenomod, oppo color ROM, lewa ROM, pacman ROM, smartasin ROM and others. This device has more selection than most devices here. Its always seems to be some variation of cygenomod which gets vary old after awhile.

I've had many phones iphones galaxys htcs and others and this phone has been my favorite so far.

In the next few years they will be sold worldwide. Even Steve Wozniak has a xiaomi mi3.
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
How many ported Roms it has on another site is not important. It will need active development here. Selection of roms is not important. What is important is open and active development.

As for it selling world wide, that is gonna take a bit. As soon as they start trying to apple and all the OEMs will eat them apart for copyright and patent infringement.

OK so Steve has one. Not really impressed.

Show me open and active development on this site and we can talk about it. (it will need to be more then one person of course lol )

Bat cave One
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
Alright ill show you some development. (: Many of the devleopers on xiaomi.eu are also on xda and im sure would love too see a fourm on the website, and there would be much more in no time.

Wajk http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2147628 Moddifed version of miui for better optimization, its updated quite often

M1cha http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2444659 Cygenomod 10.2 He has a working build of cyangenomod 11 of xiaomi.eu, doesnt surprise he didnt post it since there isnt a forum here.

http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/rom-kk-4-4-2014-01-21-cyanogenmod-11-0.22927/ cyanogenmod 11

http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi2-mi2s-kernel-micore-008m-for-miui-linaro-uv.23012/ Custom kernal work

ibotpeaches and ingbrzy are regesterd here as well as xiaomi.eu they and others create a multilangage rom for the xiaomi mi2/s and many many other phones with ports of miui, they update it every week as new builds come out weekly.

There is lots of stuff going on over there and im sure everyone me included would love to see a forum go up here, Most developers over there are on here as well. So in no time the forum would be full, theres a lot of potential here. (:

Some more stuff

ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.3.2 by m1cha http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/2013-11-15-clockworkmod-recovery-6-0-3-2.19686/

[ROM] Marvin [English\Multilanguage] Xiaomi MI2/S [8.11] http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/rom-marvin-english-multilanguage-xiaomi-mi2-s-8-11.20996/ another optimized version of miui
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
What goes on on another site means nothing here. There has to be open and active development on this site and just having roms is not really development. Miui roms are not development as all code changes are done by the miui team only.

Bat cave One
[Omni Q&A] Mephisto Zap:
How is that fair to say? There are many members here that are over there because you don't have a forum here. That's why I am over there. If you had a forum here they would be here as well with thread with development and discussion.

There are other threads like the meizu MX, oppo r819, and oppi n1 with nothing in them. The meizu MX has outdated stuff with miui.

The xiaomi has cygenmod optimized stock Roms and other interesting ports of other Roms that. I've found more variation which is nice. Also there's kernal work and a working clockwork recovery mode and also has dual boot capabilities. This has to be the most developed phone only sold in China I know off. And y'all even have a meizu thread its sold in a few more countries and xiaomi easily has twice the development if not more. Not to mention some people like miui. There's almost a port in every thread.

What development is there? All I've seen with phones like HTC and galaxy they have kernals, optimized stock ROM versions, a port of miui, maybe Google play addition and asop version of stock. Xiaomi has that as well. Maybe a few other random stuff thrown about but this phone has more stuff going on for it than some other phones here with a dedicated forum.
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
Well when people start developing for the device here. Then we will look at it.

If that is all you see going on with other devices then you need to look again.

They have yet to release full kernel source for their devices. And before you link me to some so called source link we have looked at them already and not everything is documented and open properly. The link to most of the kernels in the threads you provided are nothing more then the stock Linux kernel read me which is not the source code.

Also understand that the company has a very bad rep with developers. Few take kindly to having their hard work taken and not given any credit for it as they close the source.

As for fair. No one said life is fair.

Bat cave One
[Omni Q&A] m11kkaa:
you guys should have tagged me in this thread :P

Xiaomi DID release the kernel sources for MI2/s and MI2A here:

https://github.com/MiCode/mi2_kernel

That said they don't violate GPL for these devices anymore.

I've based 4.3/4.4 kernels on top of codeaurora and Nexus4 sources because the 4.1 kernel is not compatible with newer android versions.

And whatever xiaomi did or does - ín my opinion it's ignorant to disallow support for opensource ROM's for such devices.

I mean it's the spirit of opensource doesn't matter how open the manufacturer is - that's why we are here.

And I didn't publish all my work on XDA because XDA doesn't want to create forums for this device here just because xiaomi did bad things in past.

I personally don't care about past which means I don't care about what a company did in past - the present is the only thing which should influence decisions.
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
Well when your one of the devs who's code they took maybe you will it differently. We have looked at that code and it is not complete.

Bat cave One
[Omni Q&A] m11kkaa:
The code is complete. We've compiled it and are using it for 4.1 custom kernels.

And I know much about this device thx to reverse engineering. Believe me - it is complete.

And I wouldn't change my mind if they took code from me.

1) I'd love if companies take my code because to me this is a form of appreciation. And I don't loose anything because I'd never sell my opensource code.

2) Even if you see it different. They don't do it anymore. And the past has to be forgotten. It makes no sense to worry about it.

Edit: to clarify things: I mean that using opensource code is ok. Not giving credits is a bad thing but if the license you've chosen allows it it's ur fault. I dunno if you have to give credits when using apache2 license
[Omni Q&A] zelendel:
Even if the Apache doesn't XDA does. Now you say you would be OK with it. Many are not. If I spent weeks working in making a kernel work on a device and the company took my work so they could release a win zip rom for the device and uses my kernel edits without so much as a thank you then I would be just as upset as the devs that are adding code to their kernels that detects if it is being used on a miui base and then causes random issues.

The past maybe forgiven but it will never be forgotten.

They will have a long way to go to even be forgiven. Now if people want to start developing for the device and enough development is done then it may get a forum. But the work has to be there first. And no that doesn't mean a bunch of roms. It means real development.

Bat cave One