yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
I don't think anybody knows for sure. Google has been absolutely mum on this.

What I do know is this(none of which is 100% conclusive btw):

1. HTC is promising it for the HTC One GPE within 15 days of the announcement(so by Nov 15).

2. In the past, the One and S4 GPE got the update about a week after the Nexus 4.

3. Last year, 4.2 was announced on Oct 28, OTA started on Nov 12. However, it's hard to draw a direct parallel, since the Nexus 4 didn't release immediately upon announcement like the Nexus 5.

If I had to guess....OTA starts this weekend.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
Be my guest, I didn't compile this list, I took it from Google Nexus 4 page on Facebook and removed a few points I thought were meaningless or untrue.
[Nexus 4 General] yewchung07:
Sorry for my ignorant...didnt know tat....newbie...
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees1237:
Sounds good lol
[Nexus 4 General] Codrea:
I already try kitkat in N5 port and look promising with new feature and interface. The problem is it's too buggy.

Honestly I Don't care about update from google as long as our developers make a great rom.

The truth is when 4.3 update out, I Don't use stock but using custom ROM.
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
I want Carbon to update, the devs make quality stuff
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Even Slim team is,will be making quality builds and they have started too. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] kzakhar:
The Nexus 5 launcher will NOT be available for other devices http://phandroid.com/2013/11/06/nexus-5-launcher-available-devices/

Some more marketing BS from Google :(
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
How about extracting the launcher from N5 factory image & install it in other devices..Problem solved :good:
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
Yeah we've hear that already. Not a deal breaker for me and yes I know it can be easily fixed in various ways... but decision itself is indeed ridiculous. No rational explanation for that. If device is hardwarewise capable to run feature why is it excluded?
[Nexus 4 General] Trans-amers:
Oh god there aren't transparent status bar and navigation bar.....

I just loved that!!

What is google thinking....

at least the port rom/ other dev rom will hv that

Sorry for my bad english:D
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
The transparency will still be there since it's in the ROM but it was only utilized by the Google Experience Launcher. Luckily, the maker of Nova is making his launcher so that it will utilize this transparency feature too. And quite honestly, I don't think many people will be using the Google launcher anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] Mantulis:
Source?.

/Edit

Don't forget we talking about mako here.

https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-4.4_r1

https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako-kernel/+/android-4.4_r1
[Nexus 4 General] eckbauer:
I tried out the Google Launcher on my N4 uninstalled after 30 min of use.:eek:
[Nexus 4 General] ammurad:
Google keyboard updated today. The auto text is in white now per 4.4 theme.. Maybe a sign its coming?!
[Nexus 4 General] eckbauer:
Now that you mentioned that most of my Google apps updated all at once last night.I found that stranage.
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
Same thing here. I had originally hidden Google Settings from my app drawer (i use Apex) and about an hour ago, I found the app in the drawer and it's now grey instead of green and the settings inside were different.
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Emotion:
Google services got updated to 4.0.31...
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
So is that what changed some of the apps?
[Nexus 4 General] kzakhar:
I must be running some different Nexus 4 or something, but nothing updates for me and there are no updates in Play :(
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Emotion:
Yeah, i think that Google Settings are part of the Google services.
[Nexus 4 General] Vazduh:
Check this out. Maybe it's old, maybe it's fresh news, but news nonetheless :)

http://pocketnow.com/2013/11/07/android-4-4-1-kitkat
[Nexus 4 General] masterofmayhem:
Android device manager had to be re-enabled and I had to re-opt out of interest based ads.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Well, the article is from today, but apart from that nothing has been confirmed or denied.

We'll see what, if anything, will happen.
[Nexus 4 General] patstock11:
Am I the only one that could care less about this experience launcher? I'd rather Google now not take up an entire home screen *shrugs*......
[Nexus 4 General] kzakhar:
To me it's not about the launcher, it's about Google introducing artificial software limitations to previous generation Nexus device. This is not cool.
[Nexus 4 General] bpear96:
Im sure having Google Now voice commands constantly running on N4 does affect battery life somewhat since the N5 SoC has a special core just for that kind of stuff. Also Google will probably eventually release the launcher on Google Play.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
It's not about the launcher itself (I am honestly more interested in under the hood performance improvements, especially ART sounds great!) but rather the new "elite" policy which used to be typical for OEMs. Making some features available exclusively for the current year flagship ...I completely understand hardware limitations, but other than that sorry it's just not ok when we're talking about Nexus line.

But let's wait and see, then we can complain :)
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
I care not even a little about the launcher. I'm anxious for kit Kat for the several ui changes, ART, and a new kernel! Linux kernel 3.4 is horribly inefficient and we've been stuck with it forever.
[Nexus 4 General] kzakhar:
Does KitKat come with kernel 3.8?
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
The kernel is still 3.4 unfortunately.
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
The nexus 5 comes with a 3.4 kernel so its pretty certain. It actually makes sense as a choice, since the Snapdragon 800 is architecturally very similar with the S4 pro, so its easier to just use the same kernel base.

I would expect a move to a new kernel when a radical CPU change takes place (for example, a nexus 6 (or nexus 5 2014) with a 64bit CPU and ARMv8 instruction set).

If google/qualcomm wrote a new kernel (3.8 or 3.10) from scratch for the nexus 5, it would be extremely beneficial for the nexus 4, since the architectural similarities would mean a new kernel for the nexus 4 as well, regardless if google shipped it officially or if it was build by our fine devs.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Thanks man. I didn't realize a drastic hardware revision would drive a new kernel to be released.
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
There is a new permission (Record audio through microphone) for updated google play services. Does that mean N4 will get "Ok Google" feature on home screen?
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Fixed it for ya.

---------- Post added at 08:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 AM ----------

Why do you care? Is it that hard to swipe up from the home button no matter what you're doing? If it were screen off active listening I would understand your excitement.
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
It is not the only factor however. In the past, it has gone the other way as well (a drastic change in software leading to a new kernel release). This has occurred once. The nexus S, shipped with a 2.6 kernel, however, the drastic changes between gingerbread and ice cream sandwich lead to the release of a new kernel for the nexus S by google (3.0).

On the other hand, android has matured so much I dont expect to see that again. For example, the galaxy nexus and the first nexus 7 are running android 4.3 just fine with older kernels.
[Nexus 4 General] vpraveenis:
You can turn it off if you dont like it (and it will simply disappear from your home screen). Simple as that.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Doing this turns Google now off completely. I like Google now. I like to use it. I dont need it invading my home. I'm not an idiot. I understand that accessing Google now by swiping up from the home button no matter what I'm doing is much more useful. So yea I don't want to lose Google now at the expense of a sh!t, non customizable, launcher that still doesnt provide simple functionality....Hey Google how about we get stock unread counts?
[Nexus 4 General] BigDig:
Go to Google headquarters and take your pants down as a form of protest!
[Nexus 4 General] vpraveenis:
Custom launcher is the way to go then. Looks like Nova developer has already started integrating things and we can expect a beta shortly.
[Nexus 4 General] ernestnwanu:
Exactly. It could take weeks for those waiting on OTA updates. The images should be up really soon.
[Nexus 4 General] Desaf:
www.kitkat.com/android is working ........
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Emotion:
F5 on Factory Images for Nexus Devices :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Flrc:
LOL, doing exactly same thing here
[Nexus 4 General] Hari23:
Android 4.4 KitKat and Updated Developer Tools

http://android-developers.blogspot.in/2013/10/android-44-kitkat-and-updated-developer.html
[Nexus 4 General] m_harsh:
link to the site where factory images will be uploaded??
[Nexus 4 General] TToivanen:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Kitkat launch has been ruined for me by the price of the uk n5... $349 is £217 not £299.. wank3rs
[Nexus 4 General] moonwalker1:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] nithin1992:
http://developer.android.com/design/patterns/new.html

Some more info about the changes
[Nexus 4 General] Desaf:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=nl
[Nexus 4 General] philipepi:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[Nexus 4 General] nicknowsky:
not yet..says a few weeks to till they push the update...we need an image NOW!! someone leak it
[Nexus 4 General] zalmicie:
how about adding VAT to that price? It's not even $349 in the US, they still pay additional tax.

i'll give you that it's a little more than the last time (£279) but if you expected £217 then you're a fool.
[Nexus 4 General] natzy85:
My N4 is new with boot loader locked and not rooted. Will I be able to install the Factory Image once released?
[Nexus 4 General] :
Source:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/10/android-for-all-and-new-nexus-5.html

Here's to hoping it means that the Nexus devices will get it now and Google Play Edition devices will get it later.
[Nexus 4 General] Nathanation:
" . Bluetooth MAP lets your apps exchange messages with a nearby device, for example an automotive terminal for handsfree use or another mobile device. As an extension to Bluetooth AVRCP 1.3, users can now set absolute volume on the system from their Bluetooth devices." Sounds good, finally my nexus will work with my ford fiesta and read my messages to me.
[Nexus 4 General] badboy47:
i doubt KitKat will release today for Nexus 4. Maybe in the next couple weeks. I mean it clearly says...

We’ll also be rolling out the Android 4.4 update worldwide in the next few weeks to all Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10 devices...
[Nexus 4 General] moonwalker1:
Nope, bootloader must be unlocked.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] praveenmarkandu:
any theories why it may be taking so long?
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
Pure guess.

1) Google is concerned with the extent of changes from 4.3->4.4 that they are waiting on 'feedback/issues' with Nexus 5 owners and version 4.4. Similar to a staged rollout of their apps. This would allow them the chance to update to 4.4.2 for example easier. Remember last year 4.2 having a "missing December" bug immediately out of the gate and the did a 4.2.1 update quickly? So the Nexus 5 owners are their guinea pigs.

2) Proprietary Binaries are preventing them from releasing fully compilable 4.4 on Nexus 4, etc. So instead they are waiting for these instead of having no factory images available like the Nexus 7 (2013) had for a little period of time. (Less likely IMO as the binaries needed have been previously released several times without delay/issue).
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
The mako did have the images pulled for a time however.
[Nexus 4 General] HugoSilva:
Hi everyone :) I have my nexus 4 with official 4.3 but i wanna "taste" the new 4.4 , but i see so many 4.4 posts in here that i don´t know the best to use. Can someone please tell me some opinions ? a link to the ROM will be great .

Thanks everyone :)
[Nexus 4 General] snapdesign:
you could try slim rom...http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2508720
[Nexus 4 General] failly:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2507021

There you go :)
[Nexus 4 General] Adriflipflap:
I've got the update !!... For the keyboard -_-
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
For a split second there i was excited.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
New hangouts update (with integrated SMS)
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
App Updates are a bit irrelevant...
[Nexus 4 General] :
:'-) Well my friends...

Since Google starty rolling out App Updates like Hangouts, Keyboard, Music etc..

The Update will be this weekend or next week.
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
updated my hangout app. Cant find sms option in settings. any ideas?
[Nexus 4 General] masterofmayhem:
I don't think these two are. They are the first Google app updates that have kitkat screenshots since kitkat was released. I think this is a sign our update is on the way.. Which if it is 4.4.1 that'd explain the delay.
[Nexus 4 General] snapdesign:
seen this?

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mystery-android-4-4-kot31b-build-appears-on-chromium-issue-tracker/
[Nexus 4 General] whitedragonz83:
Sounds like my first guess could be the likely right answer to why Kitkat 4.4 is delayed except for the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] sednafx:
HTC north America claims they will have 4.4 with 90 days.
[Nexus 4 General] 123egg:
An internal LG document reveals that during the set-up process, the phone will prompt you to download and install a software update. Without this update, your new pride and joy will not work.......Based on a Nexus 5 set-up done by U.K. retailer Clove, the size of the update is 139.3MB

Source: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Software-update-needed-to-set-up-your-Nexus-5_id48973
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
This is already known that it firsts asks you to update it.
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
Kit Kat will soon hit out devices. With all the apps being updated its only a matter of time. Hold on folks its about to get wild in here

It's coming
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
We may likely see it by Monday.

I keep pivoting between impatience and indifference. There really isn't a lot of improvement that will affect me. My Nexus 4 is running like a top on 4.3. I've never had any of the reported bugs or glitches with it. I was perfectly happy with the device on October 30.

But I want the latest and greatest. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] king231:
I think the update will be available on 13th because it's said that need nexus 5 will receive an update that day

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...with-November-13th-update-for-Nexus-5_id49165
[Nexus 4 General] ScoolAir:
What's going on, Google don't want to release the official factory image?
[Nexus 4 General] Addictedtothegreenguy:
IMHO they're doing "god knows what" to the Factory image or making or something.

I think it'll be out before the month is over, I hope sooner but might not happen doesn't really matter we'll get it just a matter of time.
[Nexus 4 General] ROFLkopter:
"I don't has KitKat yet so I'm spitting my dummy out and going to Apple! Screw Google!" Lol. This thread does have some funny material lately. What's with all the animosity towards the Goog just because KitKat is taking a while? It'll come when it's ready. Odds are that most of you will use stock 4.4 for a short time before flashing a CusROM anyway. As the saying goes, patience is a virtue. Just chill and wait and KitKat will come :)

Sent from my KitKat powered Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] Ted Mosby:
They have said weeks but no one thought they mean seriously. Now a week has past so we can't complain about anything. Weeks can be up to 3 by my logic.

Images are not ready,

I personally think that Google is waiting for Google Edition devices to be prepared for an update, so KK could arrive on all at the same time (both Nexus and GE).
[Nexus 4 General] kzakhar:
Looks like an update for Nexus 5 is coming on the 13th. Let's hope Nexus 4 users will get some love as well :)
[Nexus 4 General] irishdude84:
The nexus 5 port is running quite nicely and it's good enough for me until the update drops. Yes it is a little frustrating that it hasn't been released but definitely not enough to flip any tables.

Sent from my nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 General] PVL_93_RU:
Either this is an older build (KRT16M on N5 vs KOT31B in the article), or this is minor 4.4 -> 4.4 update, or this is 4.4.1, or this is a separate build made specifically for previous Nexus devices (N7 2012, N7 2013, N4 and N10)
[Nexus 4 General] Trans-amers:
I use google launcher anyway:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Fear:
hi guys

is there anyway to get Whatsapp and titanium backup working on ART mod?

maybe next releases for these apps solve it?
[Nexus 4 General] Abaddon:
unless those apps get an overhaul/update for art runtime as it depends on dalvik
[Nexus 4 General] onetik:
Lets all hope and pray Google releases 4.4 for us today, since it's Friday and many of the new apps have already been updated and Google has over-delivered on their "coming weeks" promise on many occasions.
[Nexus 4 General] xUniverse:
the latest whatsapp beta works with ART

use this app to update https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.barum.whatsapp2date

or the site http://www.whatsapp.com/android/
[Nexus 4 General] luisjoseb:
Thanks but for me don't works

Install failed
[Nexus 4 General] xUniverse:
do you use whatsapp + ?
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
I think it will drop within a few days, so that they can start rolling it to the HTC One and S4 GPE.

Regardless, Jelly Bean is awesome, I can wait. That doesn't mean that I'm not religiously checking the blogs and forums in the meantime though.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxyfitankit:
Guys update is very near... All apps updated and our Google now now already responds to OK Google...,:))))
[Nexus 4 General] digkong:
I just tried.. but still fcs...!!
[Nexus 4 General] noolis:
What about titanium???
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
true??
[Nexus 4 General] luisjoseb:
Yes offcourse, but don't have installed now because I have ART, I uninstalled it before change to ART.
[Nexus 4 General] Sudarshan61:
OK Google is a hot word which 'Google Now" recognize.

nothing new in that
[Nexus 4 General] maverickronny:
force closed! and now its refusing to install even on dalvik, whats the solution to this plz
[Nexus 4 General] ernestnwanu:
If you're on Kitkat, delete the whatsapp folder from /system/priv-app, then install again.
[Nexus 4 General] maverickronny:
thanks, just searched and got it, btw, it was in /data/data that i deleted :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] ernestnwanu:
Yeah that's the one, my bad.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Looks like we will stay sith our ugly black nav and stat bar :(
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
I was experimenting with emoji and tried to add emoji to a contact name. It sticks but will cause contact sync to fail. Hope Google fixes this.

Also, emoji works awesome in folder names. :)

http://i.imgur.com/rHmBdGc.png

?LTE Mako

?rastakat

?AK.112

?CWM
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
Source?
[Nexus 4 General] silentcovenant:
Assuming I have a T-Mobile Nexus 4, does this mean I won't be getting 4.4 until T-Mobile pushes the update? My phone hasn't updated yet, I'm assuming it's out already for Nexus 4 devices, right? :rolleyes:

EDIT: Waiting for the OTA update
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
No, T-Mobile has zero control over when you get the update. As much as they'd probably like to block you, they can't. It comes from Google. Nobody on a Nexus 4 is running 4.4 unless it's a custom ROM.
[Nexus 4 General] flakinarist:
Is the bookmark sync in the browser working for anyone?
[Nexus 4 General] silentcovenant:
Oh okay, for some reason I thought since 4.4 is technically out, it'd be pushed to at least the Nexus devices at launch. Thanks for the clarification, is there an ETA on when we'll be getting it? I've heard some SG4 devices have already gotten the update.. :/
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
It could be today, it could be in December. Google was incredibly vague in that regard.

There is no SG4 device running official 4.4. Maybe some on ROMs though.

The only device running official 4.4 from Google is the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] SetPT:
Didnt the moto x 4.4 got leaked?
[Nexus 4 General] tiaoalvino:
Yes, for me too!

I've made a clean install (cleaning all the data with Titanium Backup and deleting the data/data whatsapp folder) of the 2.11.123 app's version, initially using dalvik mode. After the successful installation, I've made the convertion for ART mode, but, after reboot, even the new version is still crashing.

It's a pity, because I really wanted to use the ART mode. Well, the way is to wait for a new update.
[Nexus 4 General] SamS1989:
one week erlier we know the kitkat doesn't come "today" but after a week...it's really frustrating :/

maybe later today, in San Francisco the time is 11:20, so it's not the end of the day...fingers crossed :D
[Nexus 4 General] :
My Day is nearly over :/

20:27 in Germany (8:27 PM)

So I have to wait till tomorrow :( IF it comes
[Nexus 4 General] onetik:
Unlikely it will be today. If it were, it would have been out by now. Google usually does all this stuff pretty early in the business day. Would be glad to be wrong though!
[Nexus 4 General] eckbauer:
I hate to burst you bubble,but the US user's get it first.We in Europe get it 3 days later,it was like that with 4.3.
[Nexus 4 General] baza14:
Come on man, you are on XDA. Nobody cares about specific OTA for their country.:D
[Nexus 4 General] Gryphie:
You can just manually install it, no need to wait for ota to come to your phone, enought that someone gets it so they can pull the url to the ota.
[Nexus 4 General] lukikai:
Who say the OTA will come out today?

:what:
[Nexus 4 General] :
Nobody :o

We're still waiting and flashing Roms on our N4...
[Nexus 4 General] Vankata_91:
Its great that I was an owner of LG Optimus 2x, so I know what is to wait and wait..

But now I am more excited than ever :D

Maybe, because its my first update with the Nexus.. :D:angel:
[Nexus 4 General] BigDig:
Nexus 4 is a beast! It will be getting updates for a long time!

P.S: I da biete Levski utre :)
[Nexus 4 General] dEris:
http://i.imgur.com/gvjEzFA.png

?LTE Mako

?rastakat

?AK.112

?CWM
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
Google maybe is waiting for the T-Mobile release of the N5,,, Nov 20th. Anyways, finally won 5 bucks from a kitkat!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
That makes sense...but I hope its false.
[Nexus 4 General] ChelNam Guerrilla:
Does anybody else's screen still go black while on calls?
[Nexus 4 General] plznote:
Its done intentionally. The sensor does it.
[Nexus 4 General] a g bell:
I just want the rom radio binaries to be released then xda can make the rom:)
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
I've just done some reading and apparently the HTC One Google Edition is scheduled to get KitKat within two weeks of KitKats release ( meaning the day the N5 was released). So it should be arriving for Nexus users next week.

However, if it comes to the HTC One before Nexus users, I'm out on the Nexus program. I'll be buying whatever I want and relying on the XDA developers. As much as I like Google, it would be an insult if Nexus users don't get the update before anyone else.
[Nexus 4 General] killman2659:
The funny thing is, most people don't even know about the Nexus devices. The only mainstream Android device line is really the Samsung Galaxy series. That said, Google would be stupid to wait for that reason alone.
[Nexus 4 General] jcnbama:
Did they get rid of that God Awful CRT off in Kit Kat?
[Nexus 4 General] akshayguptaus:
There are more people who actually like it.