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[Nexus 4 General] drew33:
need a little help with the 4.4 odexed port. i can't get passed the boot animation. i'm coming from cm 10.2 (4.3.1) with the lastest CWM recovery (6.0.4.3). it seems like almost everyone is just dirty flashing and getting right into the rom, but i'm just stuck at the boot animation. i've reflashed 20 times by now, gone back to cm 10.2, then tried again. i've wiped the cache every time. i really really don't want to factory reset and it seems like you don't have to. i can't figure out what the problem is. any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Nexus 4 General] lucasleal:
Led arent working perfectly here either. I disable and enable the pulse notification and reboot then it works. But the charging led as I always have, does not work.
[Nexus 4 General] brewdude:
Hangouts with Google Voice integration in 4.4?

I sure would like to only use Hangouts vs. two messaging apps. Anyone know of a way to integrate or if there is an app live voice+ from CM or Babel that Koush created that would allow this?
[Nexus 4 General] MunkyButt:
Install the new hangouts app.

https://db.tt/FOAOcpd1
[Nexus 4 General] brewdude:
Thanks but that isn't going to help me. I have the new hangouts app as I am on 4.4. I want my outgoing and incoming SMS messages from hangouts to default to my GV number.
[Nexus 4 General] badboy47:
Download light flow from play store. That will fix the problem
[Nexus 4 General] memi_pt:
I have crash on shake in wechat!

Can anybody help me.?
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Wait for a non pre-pre-alpha version of 4.4
[Nexus 4 General] MadPriest:
Wrong

GN does not get 4.4 because of it's OMAP CPU. TE closed the mobile CPU business....
[Nexus 4 General] markwid:
Why the long wait for factory image?

Still waiting for official factory image of 4.4 for N4. I am very disappointed that it is not released at the same time as N5/KitKat launch.

Google needs to get their act together fast! Some vague promise of "in a few weeks time" is just not good enough - set a date for heaven's sake.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I've been saying that from the get-go, but it's not going to happen, they want to play it safe "in case something goes wrong". Whatever the hell they mean with that I can't fathom, but what does it matter, unless Google says so, we're not getting squat.

On my end it's already monday, but I doubt that we'll be seeing something coming out today.

As much as I hate Apple, I have to admit that they at least get their system updates to all devices at the same time, at least when they are still being supported. Something Google could learn from them.
[Nexus 4 General] TToivanen:
Yep. You don't need the entire SDK for fastboot tho...
[Nexus 4 General] VyktorJonas:
Unfortunetly (or not), Google Experience will be useless for as I use Aviate Launcher, seems like they're focusing the update on the launcher, I just... I can't with Google
[Nexus 4 General] wiswis:
You can just use wigs toolkit to flash the 4.4 factory image.
[Nexus 4 General] Globespy:
It's a minor update (we are still in V4 remember) so don't expect anything earth shattering.

Personally, I really like the new icons and color changes (status bar info in white), plus it's rumored that they have put a bit of work into improving the smoothness and fluidity of the interface, optimized for phones that don't have anywhere near close to the processing power of the N4 or other quad core devices with 2GB RAM. So, it should be pure butter.

I believe also some usable camera features, which has been long awaited, bringing the phone on par with the better devices out there.

I'm happy for my phone to look like this:

http://postimg.org/image/glyqj2ekj/

It's a refreshing change from the usual black and blue color theme, gives the phone some 'pop' and will look vibrant on a quality screen. Android is always been moving in this direction, the number 1 goal is to convert more iphone users who have grown accustomed to a beautifully perfected, mature phone, but offer much more flexibility in what they can do with their phones. I don't like iPhone, never have but the polish is undeniable when compared to an Android product to date, which looks like it's still being hammered out by bearded stoners in Birkenstocks.

Change or die - Android needs to become a mature polished product.

But don't worry, for all you folks who hate change and want you somber black and blue colors back - there will be plenty of theme's to get you back to Jelly Bean land or earlier, whilst still benefiting from the improvements under the hood.
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
The best thing about this (touch wood) and the thing I'm most excited about.

ONCE AGAIN THERE WILL BE A SINGULAR BUILD!.. No more stupid JWR/JSS/JLS build your own ROM adventure of annoyance. One of the biggest debacles I'm so glad will be finally over...
[Nexus 4 General] God_:
Helium saving backup :D:D
[Nexus 4 General] KiD3991:
Am I the only one here that wont stop F5-ing the Nexus dev page?
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_5_black_32gb
[Nexus 4 General] moonwalker1:
I meant Android 4.4 too dude

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
Hopefully factory images will be posted shortly
[Nexus 4 General] TToivanen:
Source: http://officialandroid.blogspot.com/
[Nexus 4 General] TheArt.:
Ok, Nexus5 is there, but Android 4.4?
[Nexus 4 General] badboy47:
Android 4.4, KitKat, which comes on Nexus 5, will also soon be available on Nexus 4, 7, 10, the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play edition devices in the the the the coming weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] SetPT:
Not for Nexus 4, 7, 10 for sure!

It'll be soon up :D
[Nexus 4 General] KiD3991:
Well I guess its a bummer then. Only N5 is out. 4.4 is still on wait.
[Nexus 4 General] hp420:
tiered rollout....GE devices take a bit longer to update than the nexus counterparts. Nexus devices going back 2 generations are traditionally updated within 24 hours of the new generation's launch. (ie: n4 and gn)

"Just in time for Halloween, we have two new treats for Android fans. First, we're excited to unwrap our latest platform release, KitKat, which delivers a smarter, more immersive Android experience to even more people."
[Nexus 4 General] Caner092:
I think they said "weeks" for Google Edition devices because they got 4.3 update after the nexus'
[Nexus 4 General] Xmaster8:
Coming weeks reffers to S4 and One GE devices. Nexus devices will get it sooner.
[Nexus 4 General] TToivanen:
Let's hope so :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 General] yellman:
I believe they started uploading all nexus 4.4 images right now and in few hour, hours it will be ready to download ! I love naivity :cyclops:
[Nexus 4 General] Odiumvex:
Anybody else having problems with battery life? its seems to be not deep sleep that much.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Check to see if you have a rogue app that's keeping your phone awake, there are apps for that on the PlayStore.

Apart from that, you are dealing with a ROM that is very, very alpha, maybe even pre-alpha because of the not up to date drivers we currently have to use to even be able to build the ROM.

My guess is that battery life will get better once everything is up to spec.
[Nexus 4 General] mymeatb18:
Well they go by the days in Google land so you will have to wait tom for their Monday but I'm thinking Tuesday or wednesday
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
When the N4 came out, how long after did the galaxy nexus receive their update?
[Nexus 4 General] MadPriest:
On September 26, 2012, Texas Instruments announced that they would wind down their operations in smartphone and tablet oriented OMAP chips and instead focus on embedded platforms. The fate of OMAP therefore remains uncertain. On November 14, 2012, Texas Instruments announced that they would cut 1,700 jobs due to its shift from mobile to embedded platforms.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
Maybe they had some negative experiences with prior releases? Perhaps they want to get user feedback from N5 owners about possible bugs and whatnot before distributing it worldwide. Or maybe they simply aren't done modifying it for other devices yet. It's either that or they want to keep it exclusive to N5 at first, possibly to see if it has any impact on initial sales.

Either way I think the "in a couple of weeks" window was given so vaguely because they didn't know how quickly the first patches of N5s would get into the hands of new owners. So far it looks like shipping is going well without hitches and around 5th the first patches will be reaching their destinations, so I predict they'll be releasing KitKat a few days after that happens. In that light the end of this week/beginning of next week looks likely. Plus it's always better to give a longer ETA.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
No, it's better to release a new Version of an operating system that coincides with the release of a new phone on the same day for every still supported device.

Excuse my being stubborn on this part, but you either do it right, or you don't do it all. Google has the manpower & the brainpower to make it happen, about friggin' time they do.
[Nexus 4 General] doubleatheman:
I thought that google intentionally left the bars grey all the time with android 4.4. The bars turn orange in the settings pull down menu if google play services is not pingable. Also the data up and data down arrows are no longer in the top bar, but only in the settings pulldown.
[Nexus 4 General] shockem:
I think it is better this way. Gives the status bar a much cleaner look.
[Nexus 4 General] TestingCharts:
About the Galaxy Nexus, it's not only because of OMAP4 ended support but the lack of support and the wish of selling more Nexus 5 did it. Yeah, one year from now, it's very possible that the Nexus 4 won't receive the big update. Though, our devs will port/compile it very easily and it will look like official, since the N4 and N5 are almost the same in some aspects.
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Can animated willpapers like Paperland do full transparent notification and Android bar?

Also, what are the RAM management and battery impressions, especially Google Services drain?
[Nexus 4 General] SamS1989:
if the google keep the 18 month expiration date, our last updae will arrive maybe July just like with the Gnex and the 4.3

by that time maybe we reach the 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 :) the next big update i don't think it will be avaible for us :/
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
kinda getting fed up reading when the n4 update cycle will expire..let us concentrate on now and enjoy our device...saying that i do not know if i can hold off any longer....my flashing urges are calling me:D
[Nexus 4 General] haris182:
So, currently I'm using Vanir, what custom ROM I need to flash that support OTA 4.4?

thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
you need to get back to stock to flash OTA
[Nexus 4 General] pradatta:
when will i get kitkat update to my nexus 4

any guesses or information when will i get kitkat update to my nexus 4 please tell me
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Confirm Viper4Android works on 4.4PA KITKAT.:good:
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Brother what drivers do I need to install for Viper.I have never used it,so not sure.And will this overall help my sound with out headphones.Will this enhance my sound when using my Jawbone Jambox playing Pandora?
[Nexus 4 General] ronnenp:
I installed the 4.4 by PA with their full gapps... GPS doesnt seem to work, anyone else has this? do you know of a solution?
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Its just awesome.. Install the app as normal apk and then it will ask to install the drivers install cortex A9,neon and reboot once.. done.. Get ready to Boom your ears
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Thanks brother
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
Been waiting patiently for 4.4, I wonder what's the hold up... passing time playing through metal gear solid vr missions on ps1

Sent from Moto Nexus 6- 32gb 3.0ghz True Octacore multi processor-Aluminum frame,Kevlar back infused with glass, 2800mah battery, 5.2" screen with minimal bezel, stereo bottom speakers with parallel microphones built in, running a whole new era of android
[Nexus 4 General] lowtje:
Who has more info about the backup feature that was rumored for KitKat? I would like to see a recovery of my homescreen, emailsettings, appsettings and more iCloud like features :) And no I don't mean titanium, helium or other third party app answers :)
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It appears that it was a lie.
[Nexus 4 General] lowtje:
Yeah because I installed multiple kitkat roms and the only thing that was recovered where my apps from the playstore.. Maybe it will be in the official release!
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It's not in the Nexus 5, so I doubt it.
[Nexus 4 General] Czepek:
Does any1 know if Greenify Donated version works on 4.4 ? I had instaled previous xposed version and greenify but now it doesn't want to unlock advance features of it.
[Nexus 4 General] MrKaupo:
Any ideas if nexus4 will support low-power audio playback?
[Nexus 4 General] blinde:
No.
[Nexus 4 General] max4wdc:
we thinking maybe kitkat coming this week (as we know you Google) but you are insistence on "in the coming weeks".
[Nexus 4 General] MunkyButt:
BECAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!

No seriously this is from http://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html

"Audio tunneling requires support in the device hardware. Currently audio tunneling is available on Nexus 5 and we're working with our chipset partners to make it available on more devices as soon as possible"

So, maybe, one day.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
It should, because our chipset does have DSP.

"The Qualcomm Snapdragon APQ8064 has a specialized digital signal microprocessor that is used for the low-power operation of a device in applications that deal with analog signals such as audio, video, and mobile broadband signals. Each analog signal is converted into a digital signal that is then processed by the DSP at a lower latency (relative to the CPU running the same digital signal processing algorithm), thus improving performance."

http://system-on-a-chip.findthedata.org/l/288/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-APQ8064
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
This is true for older versions of V4A but the newest installs the driver type automatically after you choose your desired sound quality.

from my RastaKat/Trinity [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Frankly, I don't give a damn.

Qualcomm knew exactly what they were getting into when they sold the chips to LG and when LG made a Nexus phone out of it. If it is indeed them that are holding up the release of 4.4 for the Nexus 4, then they can go screw themselves.

This is not how you do business, this is how you do extortion... or taking hostages.
[Nexus 4 General] AnotherBill:
Everyone relax. The update is not "late". Not yet anyway. It is perfectly reasonable that Google wants official reviews of Kit Kat done on the Nexus 5 first. Even still, it has been all of 2 whole business days since it was announced. Just relax and enjoy the ride.
[Nexus 4 General] killman2659:
Hopefully the factory image and/or the OTA is released tomorrow. It kinda makes sense as the first batches of the N5 were supposed to be dropped off today and Tuesday also seems to be the day everything is released (in the U.S.) :fingers-crossed:

Edit: I just read a few pages back and it seems like it will still be a while. Oh well, i will keep eating muh jellybeans until a kit kat appears.
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
Exactly! The OTA should come within two weeks. Patience people. How long did it take the galaxy nexus to get there update when our N4s came out?
[Nexus 4 General] max4wdc:
Factory image comes up when 4.2 and nexus4 just introduced .
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
According to wikipedia, the N4 was released 13. November 2012 and the 4.2 update for the GNex started to roll out on the same day.

So, in all honesty, what's keeping Google so long ?
[Nexus 4 General] ste71m:
What kind of launch is when...the only available image is for a phone that has yet to be shipped?

Not to mention that kitkat was hyped as android for everyone, even low spec phones with 512 Mb ram but..galaxy nexus won't officially get it

the same day sources were released on AOSP there was a build ..and Google can't ?

I'm frankly quite disappointed..and please don't tell me it's not Google fault
[Nexus 4 General] mbwelch:
This is true. I was there and it was awesome to have the update while a waited 2 months for my N4 to arrive. I think the difference is that this year they are expecting to sell more N5s and care a little more about give people a reason to upgrade to it. They probably feel if the N4 gets 4.4 right away, it might kill some of the N5 buzz.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
Look, in all honesty, I think they aren't done optimizing it for other devices yet. There could be a whole bunch of reasons, like battling with qualcomm for DSP drivers and whatnot. This theory is further enforced by the fact that the AOSP has been released with the exception of vendor drivers (qualcomm stuff). I'd rather they gave us a perfectly assembled KitKat than a broken botched up one in a hurry. It's a bit frustrating, because we had to boil in uncertainty for weeks and months prior to official announcement, but think of it this way - in a month or two we won't even be reflecting on it anymore. The longer the tease the greater the satisfaction :p
[Nexus 4 General] Dark Emotion:
This. I think that Nexus 4's price is more justified than Nexus 5's (even that they are both cheap). I don't think there is much difference between N4 and N5 in real world use. Just my 2 cents.
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Meh some people really need a life if their biggest concern is an update to 4.4. (This isn't aimed at anyone specifically)

If you are in a hurry for 4.4 flash something that the developers already put out which should be good enough for now. I'm just sick of the whole "wtf Google" attitude.

from my RastaKat/Trinity [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
That's exactly how it was. The same day we got ota for maguro (takju and next day for yakju).
[Nexus 4 General] MrKaupo:
yes, this is what I and friends came up in university talking about this low power sound play. Maybe they are already working on it and will release with 4.4 update.
[Nexus 4 General] Vlad Paul:
Im not updatehoolic...just i want my KitKat now :laugh: Goooogleeeeee :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] hurte1:
Maybe we have to wait a little longer for the ota :(

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/19400/hacking/android44-master-key-vulnerability.html
[Nexus 4 General] blubb23:
It seems there is an error in the article. They cite an exploit that shows how 4.3 was vulnerable and which IS FIXED in 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] markwid:
#nexusfail

+1.

I am hardly an update-holic as I skipped 4.3 because of early bugs with it. That said, one of the premise of Nexus devices is that they get latest OS updates PRONTO. If not on same day as launch, at least set a future date instead of fluffing around like an amateur - not good to leave your most enthusiastic users hanging in the wind.

It's looking like #nexusfail at the moment!
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
Found out that I can upgrade my laptop to 8gb of ram..took it apart out of boredom of waiting for this update...

Sent from Moto Nexus 6- 32gb 3.0ghz True Octacore multi processor-Aluminum frame,Kevlar back infused with glass, 2800mah battery, 5.2" screen with minimal bezel, stereo bottom speakers with parallel microphones built in, running a whole new era of android
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
I think the reason most of us are upset is because we paid upwards of $300.00 for the latest and greatest but are now left in the cold. We will get the update but when? And if not now whats the point of buying a nexus? Yes we will get it first but there are already other devices with 4.4 roms. Not fair.
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
Nobody got 4.4 faster than us. We were installing it on our N4s hours after the code was released. What are you talking about??
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
We should have an official 4.4 by now. Not be like everyone else and be playing with alpha roms.
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
And besides the N5, who do you claim has it "officially" been released to? I do not know of any other phones running 4.4 like you claimed.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Exactly this. We should have factory images by now, if not OTA's, and not have to make due with ROMs that are cobbled together from two different versions.
[Nexus 4 General] Demonic240:
4.4 was announced less than a week ago. Where is this "we should have it now" attitude coming from? For all we know, Google hasn't finished compiling for our device yet and is working on it at this very moment. Just because we don't have the latest and greatest the moment it's announced doesn't mean we'll be waiting months like everyone else is. It may take a week, maybe less, maybe more, before Google feels that they can safely push the update to our device.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Any KK ROMs have navbar height yet?

Sent with Mako-no-ōkami
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Lol in the device world $300 is at least half the going rate. You don't have 4.4 yet :eek: you still will before those other devices...

from my RastaKat/Trinity [n⁴]
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
On the bright side, at least it's not like Windows for PC where you have to pay $100 to get the next version.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Which I don't think Microsoft can afford to carry on with for much longer, seeing as Apple are now giving their OS away for free.

No, I don't like Apple, but giving the OS away is a smart move to put pressure on Microsoft, especially considering the trainwreck that is Windows 8.
[Nexus 4 General] roi14:
from what i can read, you guys are underestimating th abilities of the great devs who put a lot of effort to bring the best and latest to us.. pls avoid that attitude! whether or not the 4.4 builds are alpha. they can be used as daily drivers! and you have to respect that.pls be a little thankful and grateful once in a while..

have a nice day and hats off to the great devs of this community!!!
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I have not disrespected the dev-community, nor is it ever my intention, but I still consider ROMs that are not using the proper binaries for whatever reason as incomplete Alpha level software, no matter how stable and well suited they may be as daily drivers.

Once the source-code and binaries match up, I have no problem testing new ROMs from the devs here, i've been here long enough to know what kind of feats these people can pull off.
[Nexus 4 General] Matt1408:
Microsoft also gave away their newest version for free (as long as you had the previous version already purchased,, which they sold as a promo price for $40) You can complain about trainwrecks all you want but 8 is a solid OS.

You're also comparing Apple to Microsoft here, where Apple makes their money off selling hardware when Microsoft makes it from license keys.

Also, yeah where is this attitude that Google owes us an update coming from? Sure it would be nice to have right now, but at least we're on 4.3, which can't really be said for most of the other 2012 phones...
[Nexus 4 General] Lanzeelus:
A Nexus waiting a week or more for a new OS version is definitely NOT unprecedented. The Nexus S took weeks (plural) to receive Jellybean, and MONTHS to receive Ice Cream Sandwich. Having owned a Nexus S, 7 (2012), and Nexus 4, I can say the immediate OTAs for 4.2 and 4.3 were the exception, not the rule (keep in mind, these were very minor updates). Nexus devices having to wait a few days or maybe a week is what I've come to expect with new updates, especially when Google has 6 devices they need to update (both Nexus 7's, 10, 4, and Google Play editions) to probably the second or third biggest update in the history of the OS, behind ICS and Honeycomb. Still I would be surprised if the OTA didn't start rolling out by the end of the week. The fact that people are this upset over not getting the update immediately is incredible. How would you even survive on iOS? iOS 7 didn't start rolling out to everyone until 3 MONTHS after it was announced.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Would be nice if Google fixed the WiFi notifications with screen off.. I mean it's still a few days before it's a whole year without a proper fix.

Hope Google pay you well.