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[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
yes i own n9005

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regarding 3815 downgrade every thing works and you can flash back 5 with no issue ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I have spend to manny time in front of my laptop and phone that with my family .... i need some help from you all to.i am just 1 guy and the work is verry hard

After spending to manny hours in front on my laptop my brain is not thiking right so i need some help

Best regards

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Yes

If you have any problems just flash back 4.4.2 and you ar good to go

Try it with out any fear
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
it's the least thing to do.

thank you from deep of my heart
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Let me know if you flashed 3815

And after flashing look at the bootloader ...you will have 4.2.2 bootloader

Do not get scared if your imei and sn is unknown they will get back after you flash 4.4.2 oficial firmware

I will pay your phone if they dont :))))

Good luck
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
Sorry - I don't understand the "prove" that knox is not en e-fuse? What are the arguments again that if you can flash an bootloader that is knox free knox can't be en e-fuse?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
The i9505 was sold with 4.2.2 WITHOUT KNOX and after updating the phone got knox....did samsung toke your phone back to factory for update and to put a hardware fuse on it?

What proof do you want?

A official email from samsung?

Read the posts above your comment

The 3815 got deknoxed and downgraded (you have the files above to try)the only problem is flashing the modem.bin file

Is that proof good and legit?

It s in your "hands" to try it and belive
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
no i own sm-n9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
I can't follow your argumentation ...

When knox was implemented by use of an e-fuse and the e-fuse is in the SoC ... then the fuse could be there for years - unused. Because of the 4.2.2. bootloader didn't just read (or write) that already existing e-fuse, but 4.4.2 bootloader does. No need to replace any hardware, so where is the "prove"? My arguments are just speculation but your's are too!

Btw... I read all your posts that's why I'm asking where is the "prove", I can't see it ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Keep searching ...if you think like that

I dont need to proof to you nothing

You belive what

you want from hwo you want

Have a nice day

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I will upload N9005 files now

Will take some time
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
I'm not arguing against you - I just read there was an prove that knox is not an e-fuse but I couldn't see it. That's why I'm asking ...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Nobody is arguing with nobody ... i just say whats the facts

Like n900 ( no hardware fuse) not even 1 phone does not have that

The procesor company choose where to hide it ... that is my opinion
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
guys we all trying to gelp here [MENTION=4401405]cristityy[/MENTION] has a point he manage to downgrade to 4.2.2 preknox bootloader but with 4.4 or 5 modem so knox not located on bootloader (1)

he cannot manage to downgrade modem so when back to knox ready 4.4.2 the knox flag still exist (2)

another variant note 3 has exynos and qualcomm chipsets so exynos has leaked knox reset plus downgrade bootloader and knox is enterprise software so the flag exists (3)

when try to flash 4.2.2 modem.bin he gets error message with 0x1 flag then it has to be check bits to allow write modem.bin or not remember it's software check flag not hardware(4)

most of ota updates are modem to patch knox security holes (5)

it's more than assumption it's evidence he trace
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
Sorry, I'm to blind to see that evidence. I'm not saying he or you are wrong but I can't see prove or evidence in that argumentation. But we can stop here now. Maybe you will find the knox bit in the modem - then we will have evidence :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
It is verry simple

I have a SM-G3815 with knox 0x1 android 4.4.2

After downgrade to 4.2.2 i have the old bootloader without knox

This is not that hard to se that .... if the knox was a fuse i was not be able to downgrade to a bootloader that does not have knox

The only problem is that you cant flash the modem file

Except that ...if you or someone is manage to flash 4.2.2 modem you will have a phone without knox

It is that hard?or clear
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
So, when you upgraded back to 4.4 was Knox 0x0 again?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
No...if you have 4.2.2 and flash 5.0 modem you will get back to knox 0x1

:(

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People how has a 3815 or a i9505 can try flashing the files for above to se whats happen

To get back just flash your phone oficial firmware for sammobile and you will be fine
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
Clear

Clear

I don't agree with you that you was not able to downgrade when there was an e-fuse. Why do yo think so?

When that happens we have a prove :)

Why do you think you first have to downgrade to a pre knox bootloader? Do you think the knox bl changes the modem.bin while flashing?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Why nobody in this xda and from hole google was not able to downgrade until now if that was that easy?

You dont want to arguing but you keep saying the same words again and again and again

I am not here becouse i have no life or to arguing with nobody ... i am trying to help(for free) but you keep trying to be ignorant

Why you didnt make this downgrade hapen if you think is easy task?

This is by far the best way you get in 2 or 3 yers of knox and downgrade errors and you talk like that

Do i have a debt to pay to you ... or people like you?

I was angry when i found out that people are asking for money over youtube and they used my apps to ripped people like you off to do different stuff but you know what .... good for them.

I repet myself but i am here just to help

Have a nice day and wonderfoul life

Ps you can try to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2 without my files to se if you can if you ar just that sure you do

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Uploading right now N9005 but is a 2.73 gb zip file and will take some time

Flash the official firmware if you mess up or miss anything

There is a text file ...follow it and you will be fine with downgrading

The CP file from the zip is a 5.0 modem

Just to see whats happen try to extract a modem from 4.3 and flash it in CP

To get back flash the modem from my files

Let me know if you have succesed

You can follow the video from above

Cheers and have fun
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
I think you do misunderstand me. It's a great progress to have to possibility to downgrade the bootloader since normally the newer bootloader prevents a downgrade. I think many people are very thankful for that and maybe some day I can use your files or your method to to downgrade the bootloader of one of my devices.

But I really really really cant see how this is related to beeing the knox bit an e-fuse ore a bit in the modem firmware.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
How about... i cant flash a modem from 4.2.2 if i allready have a full sistem with 4.2.2?i was just sayd that tis is my opinion(that knox is in the modem ... not a fuse... i have even the schematics of the full mothebord an i can tell you for sure that is not a fuse for knox

Why only 5.0 modem works?

Why 4.2.2 or 4.3(in n9005 case) modem dident works flashing?

People said the knox is in a fuse but nobody knows how a fuse works

People said that the knox is in the bootloader ...why or how do i manage to downgrade then?

I dident said that i manage to find the knox place was just some facts that i have encouter in the downgrade proces

Who do you explain bootloader downgrade possible if the knox is in the bootloader?

Porhaps i dont seems to understand it right now becouse my brain in realy mest up .... and maybee you will inlight me
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wichniar:
In s6 topic heave they a enginered bootloader end Knox County 0x0 end modem you can flash end no Knox 0x1... looks for this topic. I don't say you heve no good things

Wysłane z mojego SM-N920C przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Last night i was thinking becouse at the time i was to angry to se it.... but in my way to downgrade when i rich flashing the official rom (4.3)on n9005 keeps crashing and than i remember that i have a rooted n9005 software(4.3) ... flash it and he works without any errors.

If somebody have a rooted n9005 4.3 firmware with knox 0x0 please send it to try to se what hapens.

I have some trouble with my laptop and i cant upload for the moment N9005 files.he s restarting again and again from 5 to 5 min and all my files ar on that pc hardware

I will upload as soon as i get my laptop repair

Until then you can flash 3815 and i9505 from above(if you have one of this phones)

Cheers

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Can you point me to that post?

Cant find it

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
to avoid boot loops. download triangle away and reset the counter back to official state

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before flashing anything
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
There is no bootloop ...the phone wont boot at all if you flash on n9005 an official 4.3 firmware only boot with a rooted 4.3 but the one i have is allready knox ox1 so i cant se if anything changes after i downgrade
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
i assume you flash rooted 4.3 via recovery

then try to wipe it all system and cache and data

if else then try to check repartition by 4.3 pit file
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
No .i have flash the rooted rom throw odin .i dont have the pit file becouse it is in my laptop.

The rom was not custom ... was official but with root acces

I didnt try repartition becouse of my damn laptop on start to extract the file
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wichniar:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61891674 this is this topic about engineering bootloader in s6 edge

Wysłane z mojego SM-N920C przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Even n9005 and few other models has posibility to root without tripping knox flag ... in s6 that was the the way that dev.has found for rooting without tripping the knox
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wichniar:
No, they liked engineering botlooader.... dev. No found way to root. Engineering botlooader give you way to customized end install what you want. Without tripping the Knox.

Wysłane z mojego SM-N920C przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
The SM-N9005 NOTE 3 files

https://mega.nz/#!9AxCGA6S!ATmZKrS5NjwHOpEbMzIzFZAnmsPLuR4Ygw2grnu0NY4

Be verry carrefoul and dont flash the file except you have a N9005 phone
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
thank you i appreciate your efforts

can you just upload the bootloader and the txt file i have limited internet plz
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
What bootloader?

It is a hole software not a bootloader :(((

In fact the zip contains a 4.3 rooted.a 4.3 cleaned software that you will need if you want to downgrade.a cp file.and the text file

Sorry ... you will need all the files
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
ok i have 4.3 stock 4 files firmware so can you provide me with the txt file

then upload only the rooted 4.3

thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
He does not work with stock firmware...we been that allready in above post.

You will need the hole file from the link

I used other kind of softwares ...cleaned one

You will se when you will flash it and than understand why you will need all the files

Flash it and you will se
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
ok thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Let me know if you need any help
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Knox is not only in Bootloader. However the Bootloader won't be flashed until it's being signed with proper sign key same goes with the modem afaik.

Samsung phones has two Bootloader files

One that is assuming the Odin mode

Other one is Knox Bootloader

the one you succeed to flash is not the Knox Bootloader then since modem can't be flashed that means it is still present

Just because you can downgrade Bootloader doesnt mean that it's not in modem.

More or less the Knox trigger isn't erased therefore it will be 0x1 if you decide to upgrade once again

Also I should just upload the bl files separate too ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Are you saying that the knox is in the modem?

Becouse if you do ...you should read the comment above and se that this is what i think in first place

Before i decide to make this downdrade public nobody was able to say anything or any sollutions and now every body is an expert.every body can downgrade .... loool

If you want to help download the files from above (if you have one of thoose models)and take a look how that software looks like

You want me to doo every thing by myself?

I fave a family and a job and i cant stay all day in front of the pc

Like i said to the other guy ...i just want to help and i do this for free

Ps: i just told you all that this softwares WONT remove knox... it is just a way to downgrade the android and with that you can downgrade the bootloader(a good side effect..i think)

Have a nice day
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
for N9005 downgrade video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw4QlNY-n_c
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
dear [MENTION=4401405]cristityy[/MENTION]

it's the 5th time i try to download from mega and it fails so please could you split it to 500MB each archive

i'm so miserable and my data plan is very expensive

thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I am reinstalling my windows right now.i will split it when i am done ...in max 1 hour
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
thank you very much
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I have the files on my phone ...but there is 1 file that you will need that was 2.2gb.

If it helps i will split the files but still there will be a 2.2 gb one file no matter what y do
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
yes but my data plan always fails if you split it to 500MB files i can download it easily and if it fail no big lose i download it from a 3g i have no ADSL available

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winrar can split it as you know
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I will do my best to compress them harder and then split them
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
thank you i appreciate it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Yes he can but i cant split the software.

I am uploading right now the largest file has 1.29 gb and the smallest has 289.7mb(the file was split in 3 pieces ...you will need them all)

This is the best i can do for now....i will let you know when is done uploading and give you the links

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the links to the folder..... they are 3 zip file inside... you will need all

this is the best i can do ......for the moment

https://mega.nz/#F!NdQmSYRY!C9Wt71R1RhIZgiOX4GpLSA
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Did you manage to download the files?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dkonect:
It's really stupidly because you can keep knox 0x0 since long time, of course without custom recovery, Kernel. But after you have increase it the only way to have 0x0 is to change your motherboard, no need to donate for nothing can be possible
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Until few weeks ago downdrading was not possible and now for few models it is possible.Hope dies last

The are people how can reset the knox(or find a way to mask it)but for free nobody will do nothig(takes time.nights without sleeps.and money)

Luck at icolud ...every real developers they dont make any unlocks.downdrade.reset ...why?...becouse they are paid by apple to create somthing like icolud lock

Like this ex. in knox case real dev.knows the secret but they wont say nothing for free when they get real money to build somthing like this....that's it

Have a nice day and think positive
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
"one step for man one giant leap for mankind"
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JimvanDam:
A small discovery regarding Knox

I just unrooted my tablet to update android to the latest version, I rooted it with AutoCF-root (0x0 became 0x1: Warranty void). When it was rooted, supersu asked to turn off knox, because it could cause troubles with root/supersu. Not knowing what knox was, I said yes and knox was turned off. Now that I have unrooted and factory reset my tablet using Samsung Kies, knox is still turned off and I can NOT turn it on without root access. That's why I am starting to think that knox is stored on another partition/another sd-card/another chip/etc. that Kies ignores intentionally while resetting Android. My firmware is official again and everything is reset, except for the knox app... It's still turned off.:eek: I saw this using the app "App Freeze".
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
You seem to confuse the knox flag with the knox software. Since your knox flag is triggered by rooting you will never again be able to use the knox software (knox containers) since it checks the knox flag. You cannot reset your knox flag by reinstalling android using kies. This is what the this thread is about - resetting the knox flag! Many people (including me) belive it is a e-fuse inside the SoC, nothing that is stored in emmc (not in any of it's partitions).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JimvanDam:
Oh yeah that's true:

I forgot about that. You're right, knox is turned off because of the flag 0x1. Sorry to bump the thread like this
[Galaxy Note 3 General] _Sofos_:
Uhm actually lately nobody even cares enough to find a way to restore it and most of the devs gave up on Samsung for this reason so.. personally I have stopped hoping (still subscribed to this thread tho).

In best case scenario you can find a way to not trip the flag with some devices, which will eventually get "fixed" in the next releases.

But getting back to 0x0? After so many devs giving up I don't believe it's even possible.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
They didnt give up ...they have made this knox possible for samsung and for cash ... donations from us didnt cover the daily time and effort that is involved in that kind of procces

Marry christmas to all and i wish you all a new year fill with luck and good news
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
some interesting lines (s5 Neo)

SHA_UPDATE-S: 0x%08x@0x%08x

SHA_FINAL: 0x%08x 0x%08x %d

reboot reason: 0x%x - Kernel PANIC

0x%x - User Reboot(S/W Reboot)

0x%x - Forced Reboot(S/W Reboot)

0x%x - Power/Emergency Reset

Core stat at previous(IRAM)

Core%d: Running

Reserved

Hotplug

C2

CLUSTER_OFF

Unknown: 0x%x

Core stat at previous(KERNEL)

AliveDeadPower/Emergency Reset: 0x%x/PANIC

---------------------------------------------------------

Dump GPR_EN & Watchdog or Warm Reset Detected

Core %d: already dump core in panic, Skip Dump GPR: 0x%x

Core %d: Power Off at previous time: 0x%x

ERROR: Core %d: failed to power on : 0x%x

Failed to wait complete - ret:%x core:%x

Core %d: finished to dump GPR, Cache Flush level:%d

write_ptr: %lu not aligned to formatter frame size

frameoff: %lu, frame_endoff: %lu

ETB(16KB) dumped from %#x to %#x !!!!

(test device)KNOX WARRANTY VOID: %d

seems to dumping some 16KB file ?

theres also some interesting modes (which might be accessible somehow)

REBOOT_MODESWITCH_SELDEBUG_LEVELSUD_MODEDN_ERRORCHECKSUMODIN_DOWNLOADSALES_CODESECURITY_MODENORMAL_BOOTCP_DEBUG_LEVELUSERBOOT_MODEDIAG_MODEINT_RSVD13INT_RSVD14INT_RSVD15CMDLINEBARCODE_

not sure what it's all for, seems to be some hidden fast boot mode also

FACTORY MODEODIN MODE (USB)FASTBOOT MODEODIN MODESamsung Official

interesting and fun to look into, not an expert in samsung and IDA at all but ye
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jimbomodder:
Sent from my SM-A500FU
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ewa12321:
This is from Wikipedia so this is not a proof, everyone can write there whats he/she wants so thus is not reliable soruce of information. Who wrote this?

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9295 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
That's true :)

But why do so many the people deny the thought of e-fuses? My good old Motorola Defy with TI OMAP SoC used e-fuses to prevent downgrade to an older firmware back in 2011. Every new firmware version blew a new e-fuse and older firmwares didn't start any longer with the wrong e-fuses blown. So why shouldn't Samsung use similar technology? Because it would be even harder to work around than around a software only solution?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WhateverMan2:
Did anyone try the downgrade to 4.3? Did it work?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
On n9005 it is possible to downgrade from 5.0 to 4.3 look at my early posts and you will find the necessary files

Only for n9005

https://mega.nz/#F!NdQmSYRY!C9Wt71R1RhIZgiOX4GpLSA

Flash the cp file every time you flash any rom in order to boot
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I found in my phone(n9005) today useing es file manager with root acces some lines in dev/main/log and after i modify some lines in the log file..the sistem has become custom

"SecurityLogAgent:SEDenialServiceaudit.ondenial set to 0 after sending samsung.intent.action.knox.DENIAL_NOTIFICATION"

The log file is full with thosse line and with "viewrootimplview..."

I have knox ox1 (2) and i found that line in that log file but when i decide to edited a forget where it was

Like i allready said ...i dont think that it's a fuse ..in my downgrade proces the phone wont boot except if i flash the 5.0 modem file.and now after just modify 1 word in a log file my sistem becomes custom

If you want you can take a lock at that log file in Device/dev/log/main
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
The only proof that it might not be an e-fuse was when somebody allegedly got his phone back from repair, and allegedly the serial number remained the same which meant the mainboard wasn't replaced. But since nobody could really check this this isn't proof.

There is a fact though, that nobody could do whack about the knox flag being 0x1, and it is fact that a lot of people tried to trick others into donating for zilch, or just collecting IMEI numbers for a promise of resetting the flag.

So the basic premise is that nobody knows anything about the knox flag, but there already religious sects fighting each other if it's an e-fuse or not.

Anyway, if you wan't knox 0x0 you can buy a new one, or microwave yours and send for repair. It still might be cheaper than donating to some crook.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
That wouldn't be a proof to me since there could / would be more than one e-fuses and the simply could change to the next one after "cleaning" the device (remember it's built for security reasons first, to ensure that the device is not modified). For me it's like a proof that Samsung themselves claimed it to be an e-fuse. Why should they lie? Not only to us but also to their primarily focused "business customers"?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
I haven't the slightest idea, but it slowly became a religion of its own.

I tripped my knox when the warranty period was over and I wanted to experiment with other roms. But I knew what I was doing, and didn't really care.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sarakate:
I hope for a solution about the KNOX reset. Do you think it's something physical? I think it's not physical.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jimbomodder:
in my opinion if Samsung can reset durning s service then its firmware that only Samsung has and will not release. But that's just my opinion
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
Nah, just psychosomatic.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sarakate:
Maybe it's something really basic. We need a solution! Lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] _Sofos_:
No kidding!