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[Galaxy Note 3 General] dawgboy1783:
Id like to try something else is also the reason too, and the nexus 6 is apealing to me, but my point I guess is mostly that Samsung knows users like to customize so why not just provide a warranty void agreement that gets sent back once signed and a knox Uninstaller as far as the boot loader level to remove the knox totaly, that seems like a more friendly and agreeable warranty void agreement than slapping some tattle tale stealthy software on your $700+ device that burns a hardware bit that most people didnt know about and felt that they got railed after being loyal to Samsung for years as myself. its just my opinion bro no biggie just saying sammy could of took another route as far as knox....peace love and hair grease!

:D

P.S. my note 3 is stock rooted, debloated and knox 0X0 :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
If I were you I'll have to wait till a decent x64 chip with more than 4GB and it's x64 android it must hit that year so be patient and keep tunning for news
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
Well Samsung sales have faltered, haven't they. It means more people find other phones more interesting, or just feel that Samsung has crammed too many things into their flagship devices, mostly things 90% of the users will never use. Which makes these expensive phones even more expensive.

I've almost replaced my Note 3 with a OPO. Because I was too concerned with tripping knox, but wanted to experiment with new ROMS. Eventually I stuck with my Note 3, but now knox is 0x1, and it's a matter of chance if something goes wrong they'll say my warranty is void od not.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
Anyone tested out this one and can confirm that it works?

http://www.galaxynote3update.com/sa...axy-note-3-without-knocking-knox-counter-0x0/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
Yep, it works. I tested it myself. Befote I flashed a custom recovery and tripped it, but for 20 minutes I had a rooted Note 3 with knox 0x0.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
What you mean with you tripped it?

How you can trip it after you're rooted? Is it the flashing of the custom recovery that changes the Knox counter or the rooting process?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
Yes, it's the custom recovery. If you want TWRP or CWM then it trips knox. But I did this on purpose just wanted to test Towel Root before it, and it worked all right.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
Since I just received my N9005 the other day I don't want to void warranty yet by installing a custom ROM, but i want to root it for practical issues like removing bloat ware. Can I safely return to stock after I have removed the programs?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
What android version you on if its 4.4.2 you can root it with towel root and once you remove what you want just open superuser app and in settings of superuser there is option to fully unroot wich will remove superuser as well and you will have stock debloated device .

MY NOTE 3 BETTA THAN YOURZ
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
You can always accept an OTA update, or flash a stock ROM with Odin, it will remove root and bring back all removed bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
Thanks, that's what I needed to know, and yes I'm on 4.4.2
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[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
I intend to root using the towel root and install Xposed so I can customize some icons. This involves installing the Xposed framework.

Will installing a framework flag my Knox counter?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] maxilick:
Yep if you trip Knox your phone will self destruct in 103 days 15 hours 8 minutes and 53 seconds.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
No it wont but if you unroot you will lose xposed since it runs of root permission

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
Could you please stop discussing "will this or that drip my knox flag?" in this thread?

This thread is about resetting the knox flag not about tripping it. Thank you! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basjke:
Thanks for the warning, but have you ever considered that warranty might be preferable for people with a new phone.? As I don't intend the install a custom ROM, but would like to remove a lot of bloatware and customize the look of my phone, but still keep the warranty applicable for now, I think my question was a valid one.

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Thanks for the kind answer twice already, it looks like you're cut out of a better kind of wood as some others this forum. http://cdn4.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
I do my best to keep up with threads on here i try to help out as much as i can cause i know how it is when you are stuck with an issue .I walked in those shoes before.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] hillg001:
"Bring back its warranty"

Am I missing something? How does this follow . . . . Let's say the $3k bounty is paid out because the miracle KNOX cure is discovered. Now - you're on your 3rd ROM ... and/or your 2nd radio ... and/or your 4th custom recovery. BAM. It's bricked during your next session of messing with your system. You bring it back from bricked status with odin. Now it's not bricked. You're up and running. So .... why did the 0x1 bounty need to be created? Just sayin' .... sure - if you want to sell your used note 3 or 4 or Tab s or pro or whatever ... your buyer doesn't want red letters during boot up - if you've already convinced your buyer your device is virgin. I get it. But the warranty repair thing .... I'm thinking that's a kind of a non issue. Has anyone sent in a device where KNOX was tripped, and the service center refused to even look at it? All I've read is you pay the money and they fix it. Sure - overclock & burn up your processor under warranty - that's different ... but just a fix, you pay the money & go. Fool the manufacturer for my overclock burnout ... um, I'm not going there, but I get it, I guess.

:rolleyes:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] vulkanxxv:
Me!

The phone is OK, android is OK but the screen is out. The black borders are like an old screen protector. Inside is there a yellow film but them didn't repair it for the 0x1...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
In the EU they have to. Maybe they don't want to, and try to avoid it, but they have to.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Yes, you are. Of course it is an issue no matter how you look at it. Why should there even be a discussion like this, hence this thread.

- Not all service locations will provide warranty repairs because Knox is 0x1 regardless of conditions. You have to look at things at a global scale.

- A device that has 0x1 does NOT function (software-wise) the same as a device with 0x0. Say, if you did convince and sell your device to another person, they may want to use Knox security services. Instead when they activate it, it errors, "This device is not authorized to use Knox". The device is not secure and they will know the device is tampered with and you cheated them.

- You CANNOT get the device to "New" (untouched) condition unless the counter is reset.

Being tech savvy, I thought people will overlook carelessness. But if people choose to resort to that I can't help them.

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So you want to customize your phone without the use of custom roms. Basjke, do not misunderstand. Your question is very valid, just not for this thread. I read the link you posted using towel root. Sadly this is yet another case of "How to protect yourself from the tripping of Knox" NOT "How to reverse a tripped counter".

Keep in mind, you can trip the Knox counter at ANYTIME, even if towel-root is running. Why? I explained already, the bootloader checks changes in recovery and kernel. Towel-root is a totally different software, it only hijacks processes into privileged space (based on my understanding) without touching these two components, allowing root access. But if you inject custom rom into your system, it usually contains custom recovery, rewrites and at next boot, your counter will trip, guaranteed, also making the use of towel root pointless.

Now, you CAN install custom rom without tripping Knox IF you keep

original

kernel and recovery base as a user demonstrated in my earlier readings. Or you can use the guide to saferoot and go on from there.

You see? My attempt to answer you question is valid too, but since doesn't deal with resetting Knox, it is also invalid for thread. Oh. :eek:

In the future let's try to keep words like custom rom, towel-root, and safe-strap out of this thread. As I am convinced the counter is so deep, not even root can help. I know it's been a while, but I still like to see some legitimate posts and progress sooner or later for the people who actually will donate to this bounty.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
Att note 3 from friend of my rooted using towel custom rom custom recovery rebooted 35 times no tripped knox...

MY NOTE 3 BETTA THAN YOURZ
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sey13:
Even if it's hard to understand your English, I think this thread it's not about bragging... Can you tell us something about knox ?! ...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BROKEN1981:
This is really stupid. If you install a custom rom or recovery you deserve knox 0x1. you compromise the integrity of the phone knowingly, now you want to reverse that? Then guess what? Stop installing customs roms and recoveries. If the service center turns you down for 0x1 well that's your fault for messing with the device in the first place. You knew the risk and still took it.....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
You are not getting the point of my post. However, to help me better understand more about how the Knox counter works, please tell me the following.

What is the note 3 model? Custom recovery name? Any other software used? Screenshots helpful.

You will find that mere statements cannot prove a fact.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
Its not statement i rooted it for him so its a fact i dont have hs screenshots since its his phone hes on nc2 build towel rooted with safestrap recovery unrooted it bunch of times cause its so simple i guess he figured he play with it and returned it for warranty on gps issue and i looked in download mode it says official for both and knox 0x0 im not knocking what you posted im just posting the results

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Ok, so it just needed a bit more clarification. Yeah, I sort of expected you would say that. Safestrap is NOT the way to go, read the end of my previous post again. Safe-strapping creates a secondary partition for your custom rom (aka in external SD card) and doesn't touch and has nothing to do with the main system. Basically it boots your main stock recovery first, then it continues booting into the custom (Boots on-top but doesn't modify existing recovery). That is why you can switch between roms pretty fast and safely. But we don't look at that.

We want to take a look at the

MAIN SYSTEM

that is where the actual counter is. Try flashing custom recovery without the assistance of safestrap, it will trip. Again, I guarantee it. Btw, feel free to knock me if you must, it is all part of learning. Just do it within reason.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
Guys make a petition to allow registered Samsung account to reset knox and use it as paid service advantage include in phone price and make it for all knox enabled phones, phablet and tablets like EU did with warranty void flag inforcment

My point is why not to own all my phone advantages regardless of HARDWARE WARRANTY SAMSUNG

We need no miracle to reset knox all we need is a leak..... ok
[Galaxy Note 3 General] hillg001:
It not only misses YOUR point - it doesn't even address the OP - which is to reset a tripped KNOX. Speaking of the OP - put me down for $100 - or are they no longer keeping tabs.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] adolfofranc:
Knox is crap. It deserves to be reversed, removed or whatever the stupid phone owner wishes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BROKEN1981:
And you did remove knox the moment you installed a custom recovery. Business people use knox for their jobs. Not only that, but people who flash custom roms to their phones are so low in numbers. The majority of people buy a phone and don't care about root. Most people that flash care even less about knox. Don't tell me about some stupid screen that needs to be replaced. Ebay. One word. If your phone comes messed up, most times you will notice before you even root it.

Like my s4. It over heated to the point my finger kinda burnt on the screen after 5 minutes of playing a game. 5 months later vzw had a firmware update to address over heating. Or maybe it was a year later. I don't remember. Either way you get a year warranty with the provider alone. They are not going to check for knox. You also have the option of insuring the phone for 10 a month I believe? Or 5? Out of all my basic phones starting in 1998 till now I never had to use insurance or return a phone after a week. The s4 was the only phone I had a problem with.

If you want to trip knox and not get insurance, you deserve what ever comes. Just like me. I'm not paying insurance. So theft, damage or just stops working, I have to go into my pockets. If you can't afford to buy a new phone then well, your living beyond your means and should feel bad.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
Lol

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
Nope, simply put. The user of phone should be always be allowed to reset it to factory state. If it's not that bricked that it can't receive any input, then it should be a way to flash everything stock. And if everything is stock, there's no way you could install and exploit to a seemingly stock phone, and trick people into using it for confidential data you can steal later. And if you can't exploit the device, then knox should revert to zero.

There's more harm you can do with a rooted zero knox device, then a device you used to flash all kind of ROMs, but you reverted it to all stock.

As for the warranty, equipment manufacturers are just like insurance companies, they always try to increase profit by not paying you anything. Or in this case, replacing defective hardware for free, as it's stated in the warranty contracts.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BROKEN1981:
This is going to hurt. No other way to say it. You are stupid. If you think you can't install malware that can rewrite its self back in. This is the point of knox. It let's you know it's been compromised. I'm a contractor. I'm working for a person that is in control of 30 million dollars. Do you really think they want a phone that has knox reset and possibly malware installed on it? The people who think they SHOULD have knox reset are morons. If knox was so important to you then don't risk tripping it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kernel ranger:
Safestrap requires root access to install. Root access trips the knox counter immediately in the stock rom. Jelly bean rolled out with the knox counter in it which is what stock runs the note 3 before you install custom roms. Something here doesn't add up.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Yes, that is why you

safe-root

with for example towel root first, before you use safe-strap. If done correctly, you can ignore tripping the counter throughout. Keep in mind there is more than one root method, if you were thinking about cf-auto root, then yes, it would trip immediately (I took it apart to analyze it). Just consider all the factors, it will add up. Just like the inner workings of the counter, all makes sense to me now.

Btw, you influenced me to talk about about things irrelevant to this thread again. How many times do users need to be reminded to understand?? Naughty. :mad:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] adolfofranc:
Dude, get a life. Peace.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
But I do have a life, one that is devoted to technology. That's why I'm here to discuss and learn. ;) Well, I guess you're right. I've been on this subject for way too long, and I can't force how society wants to act. Still, points for trying in the right direction. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] istperson:
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but lost this debate before you started calling people names. Being able to root the Note 3 without tripping KNOX is more dangerous than returning KNOX back to 0 on a 100% device.

2. I don't give critter's backside if I can use KNOX on my phone or not, I never did, I never will. I'm here, besides it being my right to be here, is because Samsung connected the KNOX flag to warranty. All manufacturers say that installing custom ROMs voids the warranty, but while it was possible to flash everything stock, and reset the "triangle" on the boot screen, they couldn't prove it, so a cracked screen, bad proximity sensor, or a malfunctioning touch sensor had to be dealt with. Now they can, and sometimes do say, that you tripped KNOX pay for the repairs. For things that are not destroyable by flashing ROMs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kernel ranger:
:laugh::laugh:! Sorry.. anyway now that you've thrown in towel root into the picture, the equation is balanced am satisfied. :good:

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If your colleague can't understand that, quit engaging him in wasting your breath, it's not like convincing him is going to make any difference with your irrefutably great point right there. Your point holds whether he agrees or not :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
Oh dear. Knox poses too many problems to the freedom of usage of a device (ethics), its security functionality, AND warranty. All are valid points. It's not a matter of whether I tripped it or not that would make me happy. By the way it works, if malware enters the system, Knox can even trip and invalidate warranty without the user knowing about it (meaning its not the owner's fault). I can no longer customize my device the way I want it, without tripping it which bugs me the most in my opinion.

BROKEN1981, I see your point. But if you really feel that resetting Knox is pointless, why are you commenting on this thread? Doesn't make sense. It also sparks harsh, unkind, needless controversy from those who wants to see a solution. Don't you agree?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lovegurulavdev:
SM-N900

Hey guys I have Note 3 N900 varient and it's konx status become 0x1 after flashing recovery

And i have found a toturial on youtube to reset it but the video says find links on xda.. i have read this post and comments more than 10 pages but i didnt find .. so please help me out . Resetting it if it was really discovered. . Thanks ..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] maxilick:
Congratulations on your 0X1 status ,you can flash any rom you like!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sudo77:
The original guide is pretty deep in this thread now, but I found it again. Try and see if it still works (get rid of your custom recovery first), if not, flash your stock rom to get back to normal operation. Use with caution.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52329946&postcount=76

I'm surprised Samsung has not yet blacklisted this bootloader, which is a future possibility. Anyway, good luck.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rock_we9:
finally i found it :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Freeddi:
Is there any News to Reset Knox Counter on Snapdragon Note 3 N9005.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JonSCSL:
Nope probably never will.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Freeddi:
Thank You
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lovegurulavdev:
Thank you so much .. I have successfully reset it .... Thanks for your effort ..

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LOL ... am CM Lover but unfortunately i bought this ****.. But me and my friend planning to make CM 12 from source .. i will start building CM after my exams .. , this is my first time .. if i don't brick my mobile :P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sajjjjjjad:
Can i reset my n9005 knox by changing eMMC IC or other ICs???
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
okay so I have a solution but I want to be assured that I will get the bounty... You can pm me more details and the solution is personally tried and tested...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vulkanxxv:
O_o

Is a joke?

If not ready to donate!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ezarc:
I'll add $10 if this is legit.

However I think rounding up the rest may be difficult as the posters in 2013 probably have expired warranties now and no need to reset the counter.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] neildo:
Now subscribed to this thread ;) Looking forward to hearing more...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
Still have until end of September this year. And some people would still prefer to have it so they can access knox and other features if they ever need to in the future

I definitely would like it even after my warranty period.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
Deleted. ..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xinfinityoO:
i like to see that validity of the this claim .. is it for n9005 model..snapdragon ??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
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[Galaxy Note 3 General] katsj:
I wonder when was the time when we all contributed to XDA without even thinking for asking money. Times do change and so do people. Pity! I wish you my friend next time you will ever need a solution to any of your problems you will only find people asking for donations to help you.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] killer5000:
Can anyone confirm that his way works?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BROKEN1981:
It is a bounty thread. .....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mielletseed:
my pledge is still alive! I have a different device but you say it works on all samsung devices ...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stesteste:
just post even if you get a half of donations posted you will be more wealthier than you was everyone donates to something whats been usefull anyway ...just do it rather than asking i for one will donate if i can install custom roms then reset warranty ..alot will tbh thx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
DELETED.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WhateverMan2:
Have did that lots of time before and it didn't get reset. Many people have also tried that. Are you talking about custom binary count or KNOX warranty void?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WhateverMan2:
I bet many people have done that method before but to no avail. It doesn't work as the KNOX counter is embedded in the Bootloader that survives ODIN flashes. What variant of the Note 3 are you using?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
Sorry my bad... i linked it reseting the device status to official.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gencho81:
Dude ,

Didn't try it ,but your guide is just Flash Stock Firm from Sammobile after using some custom.

I have a Note 2 with Knox 1 and only for past week i make 2 stock flash with same procedure.

Result Knox 1 .

Tell me what is different :

I was with Twrp 2.8.4 (custom recovery)

Open Odin 3.09 and load in AP stock for my region from Sammobile.

Flashed

Factory reset

Even second time i make full flash with stock 4.4.2 - 4 files with re-partition

no result - knox 1

I will try what you are telling us to do bcoz i already donate here ,

but i am sure in the result - knox stay 1.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kushan02:
Sorry bro my bad... i will find a way if i could....

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Okay so Samsung has announced it is not possible it is said that it is a efuse that gets destroyed after the counter is tripped so there is no way you can restore it.

But I just asked samsung they said that with only the knox warranty void phone they consider it under warranty atleast what they told me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jvtrigo:
No news here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] eRPeeX:
Much to do about nothing
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xinfinityoO:
so he doesn't have a solution and was asking for donations.. hmm..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbabo:
Iou's worth every penny ask lloyd and harry lol

MY NOT 3 BETTA THAN YOURZ ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kmt5150:
So, I'm not searching thru 220+ pages to figure this out, but has anyone tried a solution using tools from QPST and Heimdall? If that fails then your only option would be a jtag repair.