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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rp3:
I've had the tablet for two weeks. I bought a 32GB used white for 450 from a guy who never used it (or registered it). My last two full size tablets were the Note 10.1 last February (which I hated) and the Nexus 10 32GB which I loved. I've had many of the other android tablets (Samsung tabs 8.9 LTE, 7.0 plus, 7.7 LTE, Asus Transformer prime and infinity, Nexus 7 2012 and 2013, Nook Color and Amazon KF 8.9).

Pros: Fast... I have an LG G2 and my tablet feels faster... whether that will be the case after my phone goes AOSP is unknown. Best screen ever. Lighter than the Nexus 10 but with usable speakers still. MicroSD means 96gb tablet, especially important in the days of 2gb apps and 1080p movies. Modern (4.3) android. Thinner bezels/lower weight means it still feels modern post Ipad Air launch (I'm looking at the TF701 which has the same design from 2 years ago). Different plastics/design means it feels like a 500+ tablet rather than a cheap knock-off (I'm looking at the note 10.1 2012)

Cons: Pull down menu rather than tablet interface, holding in portrait feels unbalanced without a case (solved with origami roocase). I feel a little jealous of the Note 3's usb 3.0 port but since I've never had a usb 3.0 android... it's livable.

Future issues to solve/search xda: lockscreen rotation, placing side-app pull closer to the top of the screen, choosing the best phone tether combo (a la lg pad 8.3)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] nirurin:
I'm really not sure about these lag reports.... I am not noticing any lag or slowdowns really. And its not like I'm coming from an old old tablet, my previous is the original note10.1, which id say was noticeably slower on the lock screen as standard. Yes, custom Roms sped this up a lot, but the same will be true for this too.

Its not even that I'm on the newest firmware either, as the UK is only on mj6 and the new one is mk1 I believe.

I haven't even disabled any of the bloatware yet, as I'm not rooted (though I believe there's a few items I can still disable, haven't gotten to those yet though).

Possibly I'm just not using the apps that suffer from slowdown.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dcc22:
Some people won't notice the lag.

But if you used Ipads before, you will notice them and wish you bought an Ipad again :)

That's what I suggest to everyone. If you don't care about a SDCard+Pen, make your life easy and go Apple.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] reubenskelly1992:
Yeah spend money on an overpriced tab that doesn't really anything
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] nirurin:
Yeh sorry, I have already had an iPad and iPhone, I wouldn't spend money on them again. Not worth it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
That's not true I have used iPads before and they are not any faster or slower than the latest Note 10.1, obviously if someone wants to buy an Apple device by all means do but Apple are boring now. They kick started it all and now they are trailing (not in sales lol people still buy a lot of their stuff).

And like Nirurin said, Apple isn't worth the money - unless they change something fast I won't be going back and change is something Apple do very well ;)

But whatever floats your boat a guess.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] EpicDom:
I think so far I've been extremely unlucky. As soon as I got my tablet I had problems straight away. Despite factory resetting and doing all updates, the screen froze twice on me. First time my lock screen disappeared and my tablet kept timing out. Second time it was on charge and when I woke it the screen was just black apart from the battery icon at the top. I also found the s note to be very laggy. When I wrote in the app it initially appeared very pixilated and would take at least a second to smooth itself. Despite all this, I wasn't deterred and managed to get a replacement. So far so good. Even the s note is perfectly fine on this tablet. Responsive as it should be. I'll update my views on it. I originally came from the previous galaxy note 10.1. I've also had the note 1 and currently note 2 phone.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] AIRA18:
the cons finally got to me. Now my home screen all gone crazy! My apps opening on it's own, random reboot, and sometimes when opening a web browser it scrolled up and down on it's own, like a poltergeist has taken over my note 10.1. Probably the touch screen is faulty but this is the last straw. I returned it for a nexus 7. Just my bad luck with this product i guess
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] hocgwai:
is your mod to adding the nav bar just adding the "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" line to build.prop or do you need to mod framework files as well?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] mantrajt:
Just a few days with this note....I own the previous version and I must say I feel pretty disappointed. Did some run test comparing both and most times results are even or note 10.1 v2012 wins...

For me is pretty much the same with a better screen...as the first note 10.1 should have been....

Often experiencing lag eventhough I disabled bloat ware. As a eye candy I put all transitions to 1.5 just to hide de lag while opening apps....

Many games arent optimized for this tab. Asphalt 8 among others ...I just wanted a smooth experience. Wake up from standby takes a while....why why why ?

Hope an upcoming firmware update corrects this flaws... (I did allthe updates as soon I got the tablet and after did a full wipe...as suggested somewhere)

Ok...it seems I needed to express my concern...any suggestions ? (I do not consider returning or selling this device..I just want it to work as intended)

Enviado desde mi SM-P600 usando Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] stripeyhorse:
ive got a iPad 4 for work and just got the P605 LTE thru telstra (who i work for).. must say both have pros and cons..

iPad

Pro's

BATTERY LIFE.. amazing. charged in the morning. sim installed and on wifi all day.. 9 till 5 with NO usage (email and facebook set to push) = 0% battery drain..

Cons. its a ipad. im a android user. my mobile is a note 3..

Galaxy note 10.1 2014

Pro's

freedom

ps3 controller for games in bed is amazing

Cons.

battery life.. mine atm looses about 2-3% over 8 hours without exchange email on device

multi-tasking is limited

Missing some apps i need for work (eg. aris)

overall im happy. but i dont think i can ditch the iPad just yet
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] vincey2kr1:
Do you have to be rooted to be able to use the ps3 controller?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] reubenskelly1992:
Seriously 3 percent in 8 hours? How is that a con?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Note10.1Dude:
Pro/Con

After 24 hours...

Pro:

Great screen - I'm worried about reflections however, so far I have only used indoors.

Pen input - I learned something about myself yesterday - pen over screen keyboard anytime. Using a pen is very natural. Trying to type on a flat surface is not. Main reason I have put off a tablet is input - I've used them to read, but always carried a small (11") laptop when traveling to deal with content editing/creation. The pen may change this.

microSD slot

Physical buttons don't take up screen real estate. I'm OK that they don't rotate, as they are easy to hit with the left thumb in portrait mode.

Con:

Touchwiz - I wish this were a google experience device with all of the pen-enabled add-ons offered as Samsung-exclusive apps.

buttons are backwards - back should be on the left and menu on the right (coming from a Nexus)

It isn't a 20" folding screen that folds up as small as a Moto-X. I think that is still a generation off (grin).

Missed opportunities for handwriting recognition. This may still be learning curve, but if every time the Samsung keyboard came up you could click the stylus button and the keyboard would be replaced with a text input box it would be pretty cool.

Silly plastic chrome trim and fake leather back. Material is something lenovo do right (they bought it from IBM) the carbon-infused plastic and other materials that have been used for thinkpads for years have not been improved upon. A grippy tough flat-black that doesn't reflect is very hard to beat.

My last stylus device was a Newton (rather dates me doesn't it). That experience with the fruit company will be my last. The Note10.1 definitely eats the apple.

Samsung could save millions in user interface research if they just read this thread. I have done work n human-machine interface and there are some very good observations from the users here.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
With this option selected the writing keyboard displays whenever an S Pen (internal or external) is detected.

Direct Pen Input pops up a handwriting box whenever you hover the S Pen over a text entry field.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Note10.1Dude:
Thanks

I did find that, but I haven't gotten the hang of making it happen reliably - I've got to go check settings. I was getting a carrot at the top of the field I could click on for the handwriting input.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Kimo377:
Amazon sells 3g version for $780. where did you get yours?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
After about a month of using it, air bubbles started forming under the screen itself. I had to end up returning it and trying to find a new one to buy now. Sad really. If I didn't have the case purchased already for this tablet, I would've just ditched it altogether and waited for something else because these build quality issues are unacceptable for such a high price.

Well anyway, there are a few good things with this tablet as well. It is really quite fast with the latest firmware even without root. Multiwindow isn't just a gimmick and I use it regularly for some apps. Same with pen window.

The bad: build quality issues as I mentioned above. The biggest con IMO is being unable to root without voiding warranty.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
So your keeping a $500/£400 tablet your not happy with for the sake of a case? How expensive is this case?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
The OEM case cost $60 :\

Hard to return that too. I mean I like the tablet and all and I'm hoping my second one doesn't develop any of these issues.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Every device on XDA has some QC and display issues threads. These aren't ballistic missile launchers built to a zero tolerance fault rate, they're mass market consumer devices assembled in ultra low wage countries. Yours is the first report (that I've seen) talking about "bubbles." There's been commentary about light bleed, loose speaker and IR ports, and some creaking. All seem pretty isolated so far. My N10.1-14 suffers from no issues (knock on wood). It sucks for those that draw the short straw and their ire is deserved but a handful of incidents isn't an epidemic (yet).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
Actually it turns out I'm not the only one with the bubbly issue :P, I have a thread in the troubleshooting section and a couple of others have reported the same thing. Just something to watch out for because this issue developed almost 5 weeks after having the tablet. I was lucky to be able to return it at all. I thought it was just air bubbles under my screen protector but when I took it off, they were still there.

And I mean this just reinforces my decision not to root and void warranty unless a 0x0 root method is found, because if I tried to send it off to Sammy for warranty purposes, they would say too bad. Even though that is complete and utter BS on their part about rooting affecting the screen.

Issues are always there, I don't disagree. Hell I returned a N7 2013 because of dead pixel issues and never went back.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sidecarbandit:
keep 2013 or upgrade to 2014?

Hey everyone. I got the GT-N8013 for Christmas and was hoping to possibly returning it to purchase the 2014 edition. Is it worth the upgrade?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Anicane:
Do you have anypicture have of this air bubble ? and any particular reason that has caused it ? overheating ? or anything else.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Personally yes. (Note: apart from using my brothers GT-N800 for a short while before he returned due to it not suiting his needs I haven't used the GT-N800 extensively).

The screen alone is worth the huge upgrade, I can understand if someone already has the GT-N800 since release, they might think its not worth upgrading since their device is more than satisfactory but if you have been given this now then its deffo worth upgrading to the new 2014 edition.

The screen is easily the best one available on any tablet right now, the overall design is much improved and personally I love the faux leather backing to the old slippery plastic also I love the physical and soft touch buttons.

As you can tell it's all on a individuals preference - Try both in a shop and it should give you a decent idea. hope this helps.

Also a few posts on here should help - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2497622
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
Sadly no, my crappy phone camera couldn't really capture it and I already returned the tablet. Not sure what caused it, but I did change screen protectors 2 or 3 times I think since I had the tablet, not sure if the upward pulling force when taking off the screen protectors somehow managed to mess up the screen, I doubt that though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] WinePress:
I got it in Vientiane Laos, in the Samsung Store. I am working abroad here.

When I went to buy it and saw the price, I had a feeling this was a lot cheaper than it should have been which it why I bought it in white instead of waiting for black.

This is the 32 gig version also.

Is it really selling for $780 on amazon? I can't find it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Kimo377:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...e=UTF8&qid=1388082570&sr=8-7&keywords=sm+p601

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...e=UTF8&qid=1388082570&sr=8-3&keywords=sm+p601
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Tex Arcana:
IT LAGS.

And I own one.

Believe it or not, there is a preponderance of evidence that shows it lags.

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Coming from an iPad 2:

I like it so far, it does have a few niggling issues that I think will work themselves out, either thru time, me getting used to it, or finding tweaks/hacks to improve it.

The list:

Pros:

AWESOME DISPLAY!!! It's gorgeous!

Super slim and light, really nice package

When it's not lagging, it's snappy and quick--I suspect it'll get better when I figure out the tweaks

Cons:

KEYBOARD!!! No matter what orientation, it blows--sometimes it doesn't register a keystroke, sometimes it registers one that is just WAY wrong

More keyboard: the autocorrect is just weird, and sometimes picks a word or combination or words that make NO sense

LAG. LAG. LAG!!! And it likes to lag at the strangest times.

Battery isn't all its cracked up to be, but I suspect tweaking it will fix most of that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sameer1807:
I think lag issues are device specific..I have the WiFi 16gb and have yet to experience any lag..I know what normal Samsung lag is, having owned the entire galaxy s line. Touch registration seems to be lackluster sometimes but probably due to the special wacom digitizer. I was actually surprised at the smoothness of this device accounting that its run on tw..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ballzdeeeper:
My 2¢ on the topic are that I love this tab. I have used it more than I ever did my Tab2. This is mainly because of the SPen. I use Stylus Beta as my default text entry "keyboard". I strongly prefer writing to typing & the app does an excellent job recognizing my handwriting.

As to lag...updating from the MJ1 kernal to MK1 made a huge difference. No lag on the home or power buttonsorusing the stylus.

What was annoying was having to hunt down info on all the features of the SPen & how to use them. I finally found what I was looking for in a Note 3 rundown. It's also a bummer that the price is going to keep the third party developers from making some cool stuff because of the low consumer interest. You expect that with Apple vs. Android devices, but the Note 10.1 is atom even bigger disadvantage.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dougiefresh181:
Pros

-freaking fast boot time

-smooth ui

-massive storage

-great screen

-s pen

Cons

-really expensive

-battery life could be improved

-gets a little warm

-cameras are washed out

-the fake leather back feels cheap and gives way under pressure,would rather have a gloss back or metal for the price

the tablet is great and worth the money.i have had no lag whatsoever except when using Google voice,which I've chalked up to optimization. I love it,definitely an ipad killer, and almost as powerful as my laptop
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Caelrie:
The problem with that idea that the ipad can't DO anything. So you have a speedy tablet that will let you do nothing really smoothly.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sdelliott31:
Voids your warranty but if you root and download CleanRom 1.2, this becomes a different tablet entirely. Simply amazing the speed and responsiveness.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Hahaha, soo true.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] clouds5:
Coming from Transformer Prime (with keyboard), amazing upgrade. I felt like i almost never used the keyboard but was missing a simple way to annotate PDFs and write notes on them. So S-Pen device was the logical choice. Using it for writing actually feels like writing on real paper, I'm blown away atm :D Just did some physics/math calculation stuff and it was a smooth experience. It was never in the way it just works and enables me to have "clear" papers (I'm messy and cross out alot). And I even did some paintings with my wife (I paint some then she continues etc) - alot of fun.

+

S-Pen awesomeness

Amazing display

Android freedom

Some very well designed Samsung apps (e.g. multiwindow, s-note, calendar)

Good hardware, and 3GB ram is a new level of multitasking, very fast internal memory and perfect wireless connections.

Comfortable to use, no sharp edges, nice feeling back that provides grip. Also the connectors are in good places and SDcardslot is protected.

MicroUSB

(Probably only applicable in Switzerland: Good Price/performance ratio. I bought the 32gb wifi for 569.- Fr (about the same as $). Thats about the price of an iPad mini with Retina here and the 32gb wifi only iPad Air costs 699.-)

+/-

Touchwiz (Even if you use nova launcher it's still noticable. Some of it is very good and some of it is very annoying)

Battery life is ok (without root I still have alot of bloatware running so I won't judge it in its current state)

-

Biggest negative point for me atm: No way to root without losing warranty. But I think/hope that is only a temporary issue ;) But most of my negatives are basically a consequence of that (oh how i miss gesture control...).

Some VERY annonying Samsung apps (S-Search WTF!?)

Even though it's one of the lighter tablets it's still a bit too heavy.

All in all very happy. And I know it will only get better once I'll root. I'm just waiting a few weeks now to see if someone finds a workaround for the counter.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] treeofliberty:
I will throw in another pitch for CleanROM. The tablet is smooth as silk and I don't give a crap about tripping Knox. Scott has invested his proceeds into a hardware purchase like a professional, so we should see a lot of great things to come.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] midas69:
I have both the original Note 10.1 (8013) and the 2014 edition (P600). Some things I like better on the 2014, some I don't. Obviously the screen is beautiful on the 2014. The extra GB of RAM helps, but 2GB was pretty good. I like the feel of the new one too since it's actually a little narrower and lighter.

But that narrowness is at the expense of no longer having the front firing speakers. That's a major downgrade IMO.

The hard buttons, well that's a plus and minus. Overall I hate them, but I've added Button Savior and pretty much use that exclusively. But having the physical buttons adds a little more usable screen space.

Same issue with the multi-window implementation. I don't like the little tab, but again, more screen real estate. It also seems faster to open up than the old implementation. But I do miss the cascade option for the multi-window.

Now, I need to take a moment to rant. I read a lot of reviews before I bought my first Note 10.1. And I read even more before I bought this one. Almost every review complained about lag, and most were talking about the lag opening a second application using the multi-window function. But they never compare it to how other tablets on the market perform opening multiple windows. Why? Because none of them have that feature.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gcappa:
Help!! Just got mine delivered and DOA I think.

It boots up, I can hear the boot sound. And by meticulously using a led flash light, I navigated through the sign up process. I thought the brightness was too low to see the screen. I can barely make out any words.

Finally afrer about an hour of watching youtube videos and knowing where to press, I completed the startup wizard. But when I put up the brightness to max, the screen does change brightness. It stays so dim that you wouldn't know it was turned on without looking at it with a bright light shining on it on an angle.

I tried accessibility options. Still no difference.

It is minus 10 outside. I'm thinking that it must have froze in the warehouse enroute, because I picked it up several days after I got the notice. Is the LCD screen damaged? What should I do now. I ordered it on eBay and the tablet is from malaysia.

Any way to fix the super dim screen? I flashed many roms on my Note 3. But I don't want to lose the warranty on this just yet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gcappa:
Here is a picture. Auto brightness off, and screen brightness to max. Can barely see that the screen is on.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] manoscello:
Obviously there is a problem with your unit. Exchange it from where you bought it with a new one.