[Galaxy Note 3 General] bot42:
First of let's clear up some of the misunderstandings, I know e-fuses exist however this is not how they work, efuses are not fuses at all. They are actually just regular blocks of flash memory that are in sort of a write protect mode, inserted onto the emmc. there's no evidence that this is how Samsung (I'll get back to this) is using them. This whole efuse rumor was started by Chainfire, but later he retracted later. He did however say that it maybe hopeless without the reset boot loader. Now back to your statement that Samsung only being responsible for the software- no that's so wrong. OK let me explain it for you both are A9 Samsung architecture each chipset was designed by Samsung for each companies current production abilities. They are essentially the same chip with only minute differences in design made to accommodate the differences in production facilities between Qualcomm and Exynos. What does all that mean? It means Samsung controls everything (another point that kind of scares me). Also to counter your point about the flash counter. The whole point of the flash counter was void your warranty just like the Knox flag is being used today. using Keis, recovery, or OTA did not trigger it only flashing through Odin (just a side note ODIN was "leaked" by Samsung) or Heimdal. There's A greater reason why we need to crack Knox, is called Android lollipop. Upon the release of android lollipop all upgraded phones and tablets will contain the Knox container system, complete with Knox flag. That's right they've made it universal for all ARM based devises. (Don't worry MIPS processor users this won't effect you, because they don't upgrade MIPS anymore.) Samsung just gained control of every newer phone and tablets "security". That includes IPhone, IPad, Ipod, Ubuntu touch phones, Firefox Phones, Windows 8 mobile Tablets,and Windows Phones. In a nut shell, if we don't crack it were all screwed. Samsung doesn't handle this kind of power well, remember thishttp://www.ibtimes.com/galaxy-s3-s2...ices-may-be-risk-due-new-security-hack-795505 when Samsung's "security" kill/brick switch was found. Knowing this even if it turns out they are using the efuses to enforce the Knox counter flag, that leaves two reset methods that are clearly possible. One decode then rewrite the e-fuse to read 0X0, two decode then reroute the Knox counter to a new efuse(there are hundreds of efuses not being used on the emmc of all ARM based processors) to say 0X0. I am not saying it isn't difficult, it will be. I am merely saying it is possible. If history has anything to say about it, it statistically will be done. I remember Bill Gates saying that Windows XP is the world's first un-hackable OS. Within 6 months it was the world's most unsecured and hacked OS. So like I said before place your bet if think it can't be reset then put some money down. What do you have to lose? If your right, than you get to live in the satisfaction of knowing your right. If you are wrong then we all benefit in taking away control of our phones from a giant korean conglomerate.

As to the point of all this my good man/woman, it is simple it's called motivation and added incentive. Why don't the Olympics give out plastic, Aluminum, or steel metals? Because they are not precious metals like gold, silver, or bronze. This is the gold metal of development right now.

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It also doesn't help that Qualcomm's(on behalf of Samsung) lawyers keep going after anyone who gets close with cease and desist letters/ not orders, orders have to be signed by a judge.

A note to XDA did you guys know that they have been harassing your members over this? Patent law does not prevent people from writing their own bootloader, it just prevents direct copying of theirs'(Qualcomm's/Samsung's) for corporate use/for profit (not to be confused for private or personal use.) And if said code is changed by 20%or 1/5th then all bets are off.