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[Nexus 4 General] flaviofavila:
New image out. Updated from KRT160 to KRT16S
[Nexus 4 General] urim225:
So what's new in the new factory image ?
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
People have been reporting they got the update.

The images are great for dev's but don't meany anything to users with little knowledge of flashing and don't want to risk anything, Say the N4 has got KitKat is like a mechanic saying he's upgraded your car and then points to a box full of parts and says "You just have to build it yourself and then install it and then I've upgraded it for you".
[Nexus 4 General] mymeatb18:
They still have the radio and bootloader labeled wrong
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
I've done the fix and my tethering with LTE works. I'm on the .33/.84 hybrid radio.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Yes but this is why the nexus line has always been targeted to the more techy user and developer. It is there so you can and are encouraged to do it yourself.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] ankuzero:
Does anyone know if Nexus 4 users get the "immersive mode"?

I'd very much like to use my apps in full screen with no top/bottom bars showing
[Nexus 4 General] illithid:
The immersive mode will work on all device running KitKat.

The problem is that it must be incorporated by each app developers. Users alone cannot enable it (yet).
[Nexus 4 General] nithin1992:
Now we know why the delay was, Google probably wanted to finish up with some final fixes before the OTA and so we have it, the new build. Thank you Google for the factory images!
[Nexus 4 General] Strider Nemesis:
This is also happening on 4.3 to some people, including me, so it's likely not an issue with 4.4. The "fix" is to reboot the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
OK you guys should just flash the latest factory image. I just did (except data partition) and I am noticing all the lag is gone. I am noticing a new kernel as well (Still 3.4 but looks like it got updated).
[Nexus 4 General] eckbauer:
Its time.Get ready.

https://plus.google.com/101045733598133430585/posts/MYedbGeiF2Y
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-4-kitkit-ota-updates-are-starting

It could be starting. I'm sure it can be faked but it's possibly real.
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
You mean the new one from today KRT16S?
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
Any information would be helpful... everywhere is said this is a bug-fix version, but wth is te changelog? Maybe ART related? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] madadhd:
Thanks for the reply. Rooted and did the fix on KRT16S. Everything works great!
[Nexus 4 General] 3Duser:
OTA from Bulgarian forum... :good:
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
hey guys i have flashed the factory image KRT16O but i left my bootloader unlocked ..will i get the ota to KRT16S?

i am totally stock with just bootloader unlocked..
[Nexus 4 General] lukikai:
Screenshot?

Source?
[Nexus 4 General] 3Duser:
Yes, it is! Here another one:

Source - http://www.androidbg.com/forum/

I'm sure it’s not fake!

Have spoke with the guy! So here we gooo... :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Sn00ky:
Yes! Just saw the post in the forum ;) Keep checking guys!
[Nexus 4 General] Jazavchar:
To tell you the truth, I don't see any difference at all. All the little hickups and lags with the notification shade are still present. There is some audio stuttering also.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
Yep, I see no difference either.
[Nexus 4 General] MersauX:
What I'm most impressed with is battery life. I have 20 hours on battery at the moment and 2 hours and 25 minutes of screen on time. I also flashed the new factory image this morning, and I still have 42% of battery left (before flashing it was 71% if I remember correctly).
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I just flashed the new factory images (without wiping) and everything runs smoothly :)

Granted, when the first official nightlies are released for CM i will no doubt flash those again, but for the moment this is great.

The new update seems to be a tiny bit snappier too.

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[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Changelog KRT16O vs KRT16S

Here you go..

KRT16O vs KRT16S
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
thanks!! :)
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Mobile data on during this? Be honest........

On JWR16Y 4.3 I was getting over 6 hours of SOT using wifi only! Mobile data on would chop at least an hour off that. But man I can't seem to touch that with Kit Kat......not even close...

Battery is just erratic in general..The thing will charge INSANELY fast. As soon as mobile data turns on I can watch chunks of battery fall off of it.

Hopefully the KRT16S build will help
[Nexus 4 General] MersauX:
WiFi on most of the time (since I work from home), I haven't used mobile data yet on KitKat except to test if it's working. I'm just saying it's way better than I could do with JB, for me it was 3 hours maximum of screen on time before I had to recharge the phone no matter whether I used mobile data or not. I'm going to turn on mobile data now to see how the battery fares.
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
Yea man let me know. And that's crazy for Jellybean..

I would at least get 6 hours, sometimes 6.5 hours of SOT!!!! That's pretty amazing. But that was on the last 4.3 stock build where you oddly only would get 3 hours...I keep auto sync off, mobile data off(unless needed), Google Now on..I never really deviate from this setup unless I need Navigation or something.

I have screenshots posted on Google plus but can never seem to get them to work in this forum.

Anyway I haven't had Kit Kat long enough to compare it to Jellybean
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
So basically only some APN settings and a few very minor changes. And to think I'm now setting my phone up again for this s***, considering I couldn't flash the factory image without bootlooping when trying to do it without wiping, so I had to format everything AGAIN. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
LOL.Sorry man. Happens to all of us at some point....more often than not I'm afraid.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
Yeah and to top it all off, my titanium backups stopped working all of a sudden for no effin' reason. I hope none of you will ever have to go through this pain :(
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
Ouch. Yeah I'm not even gonna bother with this update, the first KitKat release is going fine for me. Might not even bother with further stock KitKat updates at all and just wait for the ROM scene to get back on its feet, itching for a proper PA 4.0 :D
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
I guess this is why we all should wait for an OTA.
[Nexus 4 General] Jazavchar:
On that note, does anyone have any idea when can we expect custom kernels and ROMs to appear?
[Nexus 4 General] RealiZms:
On the plus side its a good thing to start fresh every now and then. Sometimes everything is better afterwards. Battery life, performance etc.

If my battery life doesn't improve I'll probably do full wipe and start fresh myself....

And hey....we got Kit Kat!

Felt like we were on jellybean for 100 years.

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I would be astounded if there weren't. You may want to check both development forums.....most of the threads on the first page of either forum should answer your question.
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
Dude relax.. I didn't forced you to wipe it.. I have shared the link so that others might come to know the changes made..

Peace..:angel:
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
PA 4.0 is under development, no ETA given and no use asking, and there is a beta of Faux Kernel in his thread in the original dev section but I tried it and it's a little too glitchy for a daily just yet. Those are my ROM and Kernel of choice so I don't know how things are looking for other ROMs and Kernels but I'm assuming they're all in the same boat - working on it, some alphas and betas here and there, and no ETAs for stable releases.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
What? I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was only commenting the changelog and how it was not worth the trouble I'm going through.
[Nexus 4 General] Jazavchar:
Thanks, yeah I'm more interested in custom kernels, not so much ROMs. I had awesome performance and battery life with hells core and there is no word on a kitkat release for that.
[Nexus 4 General] gtg465x:
Actually one of the bugs fixed in KRT16S was serious guys. It was a stop ship bug, which is why the OTA didn't go out previously. If your phone was encrypted, entering a wrong unlock password on KRT16O would leave your device undecryptable.
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
^^

That's rather bad situation.
[Nexus 4 General] tomislav177:
One question?

If I have KRT160 flashed image and relocked bootloader will I receive OTA update or do I need to flash Factory image again?
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I had KRT16O and I didn't get any OTA so I had to flaSH the new images. Maybe they will do an ota when it starts rolling out
[Nexus 4 General] Adarzh:
Radio and Bootloader

I'm currently on a 4.3 based rom. Do i need to flash the 4.4 bootloader and radio before installing 4.4 factory rom or other 4.4 based custom roms
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I don't think so as before the images were out I flashed 4.4 ported rom but still had 4.3 bootloader and radio
[Nexus 4 General] BigBlue10989:
Has Google really rolled out Kitkat for the N4? There are very few reports of Nexus 4 owners receiving it compared to N7 and N10 owners.
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
Some sites say it has

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-4-kitkit-ota-updates-are-starting

http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/11/20/google-begins-android-4-4-ota-update-for-the-nexus-4/
[Nexus 4 General] ImbaWind:
Anyone found that after installing 4.4 all modified applications are not able to be installed? I think this is Google's new security measure? If so, anyway to disable it? It's kinda annoying.
[Nexus 4 General] opssemnik:
we guys told you guys, we having lags and problems with 4.4 told u guys that was not our nexus 4, im really glad that google pushed the new 4.4 images for nexus 4, that just confirmed that we were not lieing about problems, and even some members said that we were hating 4,4. what now huh? .
[Nexus 4 General] runderekrun:
Yeah... this update isn't going to fix any lag. Check the changelog.
[Nexus 4 General] Romman0:
You can flash from 4.3 with a full wipe. Just have the latest cwm. I went straight from carbon to Purity KRT16O with a full wipe, no issues. Its the same as flashing any rom zip. Still using a lte radio with lte working fine also. If your flashing the full image, you need to flash everything.

Could check to see if verify apps is unchecked and unknown sources is checked. That's about it in the settings, unless the changed something.
[Nexus 4 General] madd0g:
kinda like the idle % in new build

Google Now, Location reporting, Location history (needed for Now anyway) are off.
[Nexus 4 General] m_harsh:
Hey.. I'm getting these wakeloks are they normal?? Or is it something to worry??

Please advise
[Nexus 4 General] Jazavchar:
Yup, perfectly normal. AudioMix is the new wakelock for audio (previously was AudioOut_2, if I recall correctly) and PowerManagerService is just a kernel wakelock cause by apps syncing in the background. Mine ends up around 30 minutes after a whole day of usage.
[Nexus 4 General] bote95:
Something strange, i just flashed stock 4.3 an then the latest android 4.4 (KRT16S) losing all my data and it came with this wallpaper on the home screen http://img.talkandroid.com/uploads/2013/10/Nexus_5_wallpaper_51.jpg but i can t find it in the wallpapers/live wallpapers section. On the previous 4.4 (KRT16O) there wasn t this wallpaper but only the ones that 4.3 had. Where is this wallpaper located or what's the deal with it, if i change it i won t be able to set it as wallpaper again ?
[Nexus 4 General] tullnd:
What? It's already been clarified that they intentionally held the 4.4 OTA due to that encryption bug they found in the initial build. They were probably intending on releasing it right after the N7/N10 release, then at some point they discovered that bug and held it until it was fixed.

Per engadget.com, they have a screen shot of someone downloading the OTA, so it looks like they just started pushing it not long after the posted the new updated code.

Hopefully someone grabs the OTA URL in the next few hours and we can start manually installing it.
[Nexus 4 General] gtg465x:
It was probably backed up to your Google account if it was set in the past and then was automatically set when you signed in.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It's from the Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] bote95:
Well this makes sense, thank you :)
[Nexus 4 General] Impo5sible:
Strange things happen.

After flashing newest factory image, the buzzing from earpiece when make a phone calls is gone for me.

It's weird, but Im actually really happy. =D It was quite annoying after a while...
[Nexus 4 General] daewond3r:
I have to express my joy that KRT16S brings the update of the stock email app! It was painful having to use Gmail for personal stuff and then switch to the outdated Email app for work stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] zivan56:
According to this git commit:

https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/6aa1c72f855d475e09085900aa5f92010440ee31^!/#F4

They changed the way multicast filtering is done relating to sleep. Perhaps it fixes the delayed notification issue finally?
[Nexus 4 General] flaviofavila:
How was it updated? What's new? Will it replace the stand alone Gmail app for you? I'm asking cause I've never used it before.
[Nexus 4 General] opssemnik:
the kernel change made fix, or something like that, because it fixed, tested on my friend n4, if i go back to 1st 4.4 the home button gets lag, and wifi speeds drop 5 ~10mbps. as my n4 is on service center for repairs i cant test on mine.
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
It was updated in krt16o for me
[Nexus 4 General] mbutandola:
I'm with you! Completely ****ed up the update and all was wiped out, including my internal sd

Envoyé de mon Nexus 4 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
So Google Play Newsstand was launched today, I wonder if it's the culprit of the Play Services wakelock :p
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
I hope Google gets rid of currents and the stock news app
[Nexus 4 General] jokkir:
Looks to me that Google is replacing Currents with Play Newsstand. The News and Weather app on the other hand...
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I like the news and weather app
[Nexus 4 General] hankdu:
Glad there is a new version of kitkat!

But I just cleaned flashed the old version of kitkat two days ago! Do I need to re flash everything (flash-all.bat) and reinstall all my apps?

It took me whole morning the other day to do all this, do I need to do it all again? :(
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
That ain't the stock news & weather app, is it?

Mine still looks like the one from the Froyo/Gingerbread days...

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Check AndroidPolice, they have a tutorial up where they show you how you can flash the newest factory image without wiping all your data.

Here it is: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...riants-of-nexus-7-2012-and-2013-and-nexus-10/

I did that with my N4 earlier when I updated from the the last factory image, worked a treat.
[Nexus 4 General] hankdu:
So if I follow the steps to edit the .bat file, then I should have all my dad and apps unchanged, correct?
[Nexus 4 General] BigBlue10989:
Apparently AT&T Moto X users are next to get updated. Soak testing has begun. What a disaster for N4 users.
[Nexus 4 General] b1337:
Such a disaster OMG!!! what are we gonna ever do now, my life just can't go on...cry
[Nexus 4 General] detdett:
How many dads do you have
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
Hopefully this will help you understand how the ota procedure works.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Yes
[Nexus 4 General] BigBlue10989:
Thank you. That was pretty informative
[Nexus 4 General] mayhem85:
My bootloader is locked. So it would not work for me as my data will be wiped. Is there an easy way to Unlock bootloader without wiping data?
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Nope. But it's not so bad since Google backs up my data. I just unlocked my boot loader and flashed over the weekend.
[Nexus 4 General] wastedige:
I have CM 10.2 on my phone right now. Do I need to wipe the phone in order to install Kit Kat?
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
There is an app you can try to unlock boot loader without wiping data and relock it again afterwards, Google for it
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
That only works if the boot loader has been unlocked at least once before.
[Nexus 4 General] sadsac:
Wipe is advised but you can try without but have a nandroid backup ready (or cm10.2.zip etc)
[Nexus 4 General] mayhem85:
So data wipe means my sd card won't be touched right?
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Unlocking the boot loader wipes everything for the first time. <3 that Jeremy Clarkson pic BTW!
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I took it from the Nexus 5 Ported rom
[Nexus 4 General] mayhem85:
Damn. That news just destroyed my face like an Ariel Atom. Heh.

I was hoping my sd card would be untouched. But looks like i will have to wait for OTA.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
The only thing I lost when I wiped my device were text messages and apps installed outside of play store. It's nice having kk and LTE really. Everything from the play store installed itself. Google chrome has my passwords saved. I didn't really lose much.
[Nexus 4 General] mayhem85:
I am confused now. Sd card not wiped or wiped? From what you mentioned it seemed like your sd card was fine.

Sorry, i am an imbecile.
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Wiped clean. Google backs up your settings if you have syncs on.
[Nexus 4 General] JCBomb:
ADB Sideload the update, doesn't require unlocked bootloader.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/02/1...date-a-nexus-without-root-or-custom-recovery/
[Nexus 4 General] mymeatb18:
Does anyone use yahoo cuz I have never been able to set up my yahoo account with any vanilla android even on other phones but with the stock Roms of other phones no problem.
[Nexus 4 General] dodgebizkit:
So n4 kit kat release today was made up? :( nevermind lol

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Sent via my right hand, which somehow wasn't busy at the time...
[Nexus 4 General] wastedige:
I just benchmarked my N4 using Vellamo and Quadrant Standard... and surprise! the scores are way lower than what I got on stock 4.3!

Is it just me?

VELLAMO

4.3: HTML5: 1497, Metal: 634

4.4: HTML5: 1099, Metal: 591

QUADRANT

4.3: 4976

4.4: 4552
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Quadrant benchamatks should not be used to define real world usage. There articles stating how its not optimized to measure newer devices.
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
//deleted
[Nexus 4 General] wilsonlam97:
The Nexus 4 has insanely slow WiFi and the speedtest app is rigged to boost test results.

My Nexus 7 2013 vs my Nexus 4 on WiFi and then on HSPA.
[Nexus 4 General] wastedige:
Well this has been a weird update for me so far!

I just noticed the navigation bar at the bottom doesn't have the transparent background like what I'd seen in Kit Kat reviews (see picture below). I don't see any setting to change it either. Any ideas guys? :silly:

h*tp://i.imgur.com/dvZmt8W.png (I'm a new user and I can't put a direct link yet)

Also the weather & news app has a black background as opposed to the white background it's supposed to have in 4.4.
[Nexus 4 General] streak4m3:
Whoa..that's the new News app?
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
Nexus 4 owners don't get the transparent bars, unless the apps you use have been written to include it. Not a single dev has bothered that I know of, except for Nova Launcher Beta.
[Nexus 4 General] maverickronny:
I believe moon + reader has immersive mode, and wen i swipe down the noti bar, both nav and noti bars are transparent. I think it is crappy on googles part to have not given somethin like this in the 1st place, all games and apps do not utilise full screen, anyways atleast my fav reader is now full screen, and this one lil thing is making such a difference
[Nexus 4 General] wastedige:
Oh... thanks for clarifying man.

What about the News & Weather app?
[Nexus 4 General] streak4m3:
My Nexus 5 doesn't have that white background in the News app. It is still black, like the old app.
[Nexus 4 General] avinashjirapure:
Just to add.... now Apex beta launcher also supports transparency bars just like nova... & GEL :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
recently updated moon reader & mx player..Both go into immersive mode
[Nexus 4 General] daewond3r:
It now functions like the Gmail app. Slide out menu, swipe to delete in inbox view, swipe between messages, contact icons, etc.
[Nexus 4 General] muzirian:
Nexus 4 ota?

is der any nexus 4 users who got new ota notification or anyone downloading updates?
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
That's an entirely different feature from the translucent bars.
[Nexus 4 General] TheNacho:
Just flashed the factory image on my N4 and it works like a charm!

The only thing that seems to be buggy is the Exchange sync - had to re-add my account multiple times and it did not want to sync my e-mail correctly. Let's see what happens this time.
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
So has anyone but the initial poster got the OTA? So far every news site I've read has the same pictures and the same claims but no sources except the initial post.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxyfitankit:
Told you no one in this works got ota... only android police got it....
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Apex Launcher Betas have it as well now ;)

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[Nexus 4 General] MarkNexus:
I'm visiting every android-newssite who say they will update when they get the url every ten minutes!! I don't think it's ever taken this long for the URL to get out. Has Google officially stated that te rollout started?
[Nexus 4 General] hankdu:
Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] Lijop:
Actually they haven't started it.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Well, i'm currently using Apex 2.2.0 beta 1 with transparent status and menu bars.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 7 mit Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
Yea, I took the apk from the Nexus 5 port
[Nexus 4 General] acejavelin:
Nexus OTA's are phased roll outs, read the second half of this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/

And remember we are in the first phase of 1%... So it could be up to 1-2 weeks before everyone gets the OTA offer.
[Nexus 4 General] Cream$ickleHJ:
for some reason, wifi likes to stay on even when airplane mode is enabled...but wifi isnt really on. the battery graph shows a solid blue wifi line, even if it isnt enabled..didnt drain my battery but that blue line should have been cut off when airplane mode is enabled..fresh krt16s,
[Nexus 4 General] Sfkn2:
Turn off WiFi scanning?
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
That's not it though. It looks similar, but it's not the one Google include.
[Nexus 4 General] ableeker:
Gsmarena has posted a news item about the Nexus 4 KitKat OTA update, and in the comments a few readers have claimed to have received the update. Could be the 1% stated by Google.
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
Based on 4.3 release, It is expected that the next phase will be during the weekend. :fingerscrossed:
[Nexus 4 General] Jazavchar:
Yeah, I really thinkg Google has to do something about these OTA updates, to speed them up a little bit. Or maybe introduce a beta version for developers so that they can test it out beforehand, and when the time comes for the OTA, everyone gets it at the same time.

Or maybe increase the first batch to around 5-10% of users.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I doubt it, but I would love to be proven wrong, I really do :)
[Nexus 4 General] 4NDR345:
That will be great but i also guess next week...but it also can pop up today...so lets wait =)
[Nexus 4 General] markd0wn:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/kitkat-release
[Nexus 4 General] a5ehren:
It's probably going to be a week or two.
[Nexus 4 General] yaatzek:
Yes, I carry the same hope in my mind :D As everyone else here clicking f5 in meantime :D