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[Nexus 5 General] Oli1122:
Yeh its a rumour, although I shall be looking at mods for putting a 3000mah battery in to the nexus 5, there has to be a way. I successfully added wireless charging and a 2800mah battery to my sgs2. Fingers crossed ;)
[Nexus 5 General] prb304:
Discovered CPW had one N5 left in stock so I went and got it. Whoops!

HTC One on ebay now! http://r.ebay.com/E012vJ (if anybody is looking for one!)
[Nexus 5 General] exxpired:
I'm guessing what you did with the s2 is piss easy compared to doing anything like that to the Nexus..
[Nexus 5 General] aindow:
I ordered a 32gb from Google Play on Thursday night when the website says ships in 1-2 days, I then had an email saying it would be shipped before 8 November. I then bought one on Friday from CPW with the intention of cancelling the Google Play order only to find it won't let me cancel as it's shipped.

I originally wasn't sure if I needed 32gb or not but now it's on it's way I am wondering if I should sell the 16gb and keep the 32gb version or not. I'm not after making money flogging it on ebay or anything untoward like that.

What should I do? Decisions, decisions.
[Nexus 5 General] hrcoprco:
Excuse me Sir......how did you manage to take photo of me???? :)
[Nexus 5 General] vimto25:
Sell 16gb ull have no regrets with more storage.
[Nexus 5 General] aindow:
I just hope it'll sell. I've been using it but it's still spotless.
[Nexus 5 General] vimto25:
What do u think if the n5 coming from htc one? Im having doubts as I get mine soon and i have s4
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
Sea turtles mate
[Nexus 5 General] paul_59:
I bought via O2 (UK) for two reasons:

1) has problem with Google play store not accepting maestro debit cards.

2) O2 seems to be the only UK carrier with 32 GB in stock and I became impatient when I realised 8 November was quoted as an early delivery date.

I had mine in my hands a mere 12 hours after they went on sale.
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
Why not use another card? Also the November 8th delivery date is an estimate. I was also quoted that as well but my order was a shipped a day after purchase :)

If I'm not mistaken, isn't o2 selling the Nexus 5 for £549? That's £200 more than Google Play! :/
[Nexus 5 General] isaw:
At least you have that.

My tracking number a) doesnt work on the normal parcelforce website and b) only registers with a shipping date of 1-11-2013 along with consignment and shipper id. That's it. No updates since I rec'd the email from Google on 1 November 2013 at 09:41.

God only knows what's happened to mine..
[Nexus 5 General] summer_love:
Same here! Any chance you're up north too?
[Nexus 5 General] Oli1122:
Im pretty sure ill find a way and yes ofcourse wireless charging is piss easy to add. This should be a challenge.

Because I'm displeased with their service. And because my phone is being shipped around the country seemingly randomly? That's why. Wohoo you worked in a call center for 4 years. Did you get fired for swearing at someone or just being an idiot in general?

Why don't people realise just how crappy the service has been. Sure it's much better than the nexus 4 fiasco last year but its still terrible by comparison. Any other online retailer would have the item with you next day gatunteed with Saturday delivery for £10 postage. Why do people seem to think this is at all acceptable?
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
This was on Parcel force's FAQ

"My parcel was sent using the express24 service on a Friday, or the express48 service on a Thursday, will my parcel be delivered on a Saturday or Sunday?

Deliveries on a Saturday are only made where the sender has chosen and paid for the Saturday delivery service. These deliveries are usually made between 7am and 2pm.

However, if the sender has not chosen the Saturday delivery service, then we will deliver your parcel on Monday (except for Bank Holidays / Public Holidays).

We do not currently deliver on a Sunday"

well that would mean it will arrive tomorrow but if mine is still in London fat chance of that happening
[Nexus 5 General] undercover:
They work at night. Good chance it'll start moving in early hours. You'll be surprised what distance it can cover and how quick.
[Nexus 5 General] exxpired:
Im at work till 8am, hopefully, I'll be in a race home with the delivery van!
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
i have hope i'll wake up and see "Arrival scan at Belfast Depo" if not prob tuesday, hopefully. either way i'll prob miss the post if they don't deliver to a neighbour like I said with a note i put on the window
[Nexus 5 General] Kid_droid:
I think we already know who are culprits that are going to open ranting threads about dislikes and throwing toys out of the pram when they receive their devices tomorrow.

There is a large wave of some angry a*s nexus 5 owners on the horizon.

Google is fine for grouping the shipments for Monday. Hot topic for the beginning of the week everyone receiving their devices.

Parcel Force just need to keep their end and if you know anything about Google. You get instant delivery refund if your order is late or reaches you after date quoted.
[Nexus 5 General] isaw:
Naw, Surrey area.. probably just bad luck :p
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
Carphone wareouse has WEB EXCLUSIVE offer right now

N5 FREE from

£21 per month
[Nexus 5 General] nikzDHD:
I agree that £10 is steep for shipping considering many other companies even offer free next day delivery if you spend over x amount or cheaper alternatives but there is nothing we can do to avoid paying the shipping charge. It's still cheaper than o2 if someone wants a 32gb sim free device. Regardless we have to pay it as we don't have any other choice but to.
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Hopefully my n5 should be deliverd Tuesday/Wednesday. Thinking of sim only from either vodafone or three, anyone on three anywhere in east London hows the signal etc??
[Nexus 5 General] nikzDHD:
Me. I live and work in East London and I've been on both. Vodafone then T Mobile then Three in the last 2 years. Three has been fine I live down Forest Gate. Signal hasn't been an issue nor has data. Again data has been fine down Mile End/Stepney/Whitechapel/Stratford/Hackney/Wanstead etc. Even in central London I've had good data signals. Down Euston I was impressed with the speeds. It's much faster during late nights but that's expected due to congestion etc. 4g should further improve the speeds. Down Watford I was getting close to 20Mbps during the day time.
[Nexus 5 General] craig432:
Cheers might give them a try on a 30 day sim to start then, will mainly be in redbridge, barking or havering
[Nexus 5 General] AshleyTayles:
Just ordered a SIM only rolling contract from Three. £12.90 a month for unlimited usage of their incredible network is a steal. Plus 5000 texts and 200 minutes, I'm a happy bunny. My main phone (Samsung Galaxy S2) has been on GiffGaff (o2) for the past two years and I dislike the speeds and coverage. I used Three for a few months earlier this year and it was an amazing network.

I hear poor of the customer services, but the only time I've ever contacted a networks customer services is to request a PAC number. Also, GiffGaff are good as they give you a PAC code online!

Buzzing for this phone. My phone is currently sat at the London North West depot, it's gotta get up to the Milton Keynes depot and then a further 30 miles to my home, so I'm hoping tuesday :D
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
hey can you tell us how is the internet of gifgaff?

I have heard it has poor signal even though they claim to be running on o2 network

and is tethering allowed ?
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
we have only two network who give truly unlimited data three and t mobile with monty tarrif

which on is better as i have only used three so far which was great in the past but now seed is worse when they are in process of upgrading to 4G

another option is gifgaff which is alot cheaper but has no clue about internet download or upload speed
[Nexus 5 General] lee.jarratt:
Mine is also in the North West Depot in London and I was hoping it would arrive tomorrow (in Hull). I figured the trucks would be moving through the night to the depots for the delivery rounds in the vans. I guess I'm just optimistic.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Three doesn't speed cap, at least not in most cases - see their 'rules' of TrafficSense on the website.

T-Mobile's 'unlimited' tariff IS capped, at all times.. although I've heard some people say that cap has been lifted (either deliberately, or as a side-effect of the merging with Orange's network), so excuse me if that's the case. However, it was originally capped at 4Mbps. I'd imagine the T&Cs still say it can be speed capped, so I'd be wary in case it happens again. And, in any case, come December and beyond, you

won't

be getting 4G added for no extra cost. That will still need an upgrade to EE, or at least until EE finally decides to stop considering 4G as something you can charge loads more for, and allows existing Orange and T-Mobile users access to 4G. Don't hold your breath though.. Orange restricted some customers access to 3G for many years (especially those on prepay) and I think it wasn't until the network sharing with T-Mobile/Three that 3G started to work for anyone that refused to change contract or buy a new phone to get a new PAYG SIM that would be 'updated' to work on 3G.

As for Giffgaff, their data offering seems to get worse every few months, as charges go up, new conditions come in and people find themselves cut off because they reached an unofficial limit as heavy users. And O2's network consistently comes out bad (for 3G at least, so far 4G looks pretty decent) on sites like RootMetrics, where actual users share data as they move about - thus giving a much more 'real world' impression of coverage and speeds.

In fact, when I've used O2 for reviewing devices, I've been shocked at getting speeds of just 1-2Mbps, when EE and Three can exceed 15Mbps consistently (that's DC-HSPA versus what can't even be HSPA+). O2's 3G network has always been quite ropey, and I wonder if some of that is down to it using 900MHz in rural areas.. Great for long range coverage, and even for indoor coverage, but ultimately, when your cell site is miles away, it will always result in slower data speeds.

When it comes to 4G things will be different for a while. Clearly, and undeniably, EE is way out ahead in terms of UK coverage. Three doesn't even seem like it will be that good at launch, despite having plenty of time to roll out the necessary upgrades (it knew it got the spectrum from EE ages ago, so could have begun work sooner), but in 12-18 months time, I'd expect Three to once again be the network of choice for 4G, and given it already has such good data speeds on DC-HSPA, and the best tariffs by far for data, that's the network that gets my vote!
[Nexus 5 General] 2Pints:
If your expecting it form parcel force tomorrow, get ready to pounce on the door, I had something from them last week the driver just walked up to my door, and popped a sorry you were out card through the letterbox without even ringing/knocking.
[Nexus 5 General] lee.jarratt:
Ugh... Where are you located? (please not Hull please not Hull please not Hull please not Hull).
[Nexus 5 General] exxpired:
Love it :D
[Nexus 5 General] chrisjcks:
I'm on three UK but make no mistake about - GiffGaff is an amazing network - it really is hassle free.

I was with them for years and I prefer them as a company over three.

Threes customer service (telephone) is dreadful - its all in India, hard to understand and they don't listen.

However - Giffgaff use O2 which isn't great for internet speeds.

If giffgaff offered the speeds three did - I'd jump back to Giffgaff in a heartbeat.

However....

On my N4:

3: 10-15+mb

GG: 1-3mb

So - it was a no brainer, as I stream a lot.

As a network - none is better as a company & service than Giffgaff.

But they use O2 and its data speeds are poor - its their only fault in my opinion.

Their support forum is the best I've seen too - ask a question and expect 4-5-6 answers in under 5mins to your problem.

That's my thoughts on it anyway.
[Nexus 5 General] Oli1122:
Firstly I'd like to point out I wasn't rude with parcel force or Google. I got slightly angry when the guy kept giving me answers that didn't make sense but I was by no means shouting at him.

Regardless of who the contract is with I have the right to ask why my phone is being shipped halfway around the country.

Also ebuyer for example process nearly twice as many orders a day than Google do for devices in the UK.. They charge around ten pound for next day delivery including Saturday delivery.. If they can do it.. Google could have done it. End of.
[Nexus 5 General] 2Pints:
Im located in Derbyshire, another thing if you do get one of these cards and it has some un decipherable writing on check youi bins ( trash cans to any US people reading this) as parcel farce sometimes leave your goods in the bin, or toss it over the hedge/fence into your back garden- this has also happened with other delivery company's as well.
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
@ Jonmorris, could not agree more with what you said. Absolutely amazed by some of the comments here. People are going crazy because they will be receiving their Nexus a day or two later than they want, which is unbelievable in and of itself, but all the whilst forgetting that Google actually quoted the delivery "by November 5th". They should be grateful they are even receiving it this week!
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
Speed of 4Mbps is still better. I don't think i ever reached above this speed when i was using three mobile internet. They may tell us you can get speed up to this and that but to actually get is differnt matter. The only advantage of three is their one plan or by paying three pounds extra you can use tethering to connect your mobile internet with pc/laptop or others WiFi enabled devices

4G of EE is useless for me. what is the point of having faster internet when all you have 2 or 3 gb to spend in one month. I will consider EE when they will bring unlimited internet. Their 4g tariff is also very expensive. Internet speed of 3 was great at my location in past but now its getting worse day by day . My upgrade is due and i am still thinking which mobile network i should go for . I am heavy user of mobile data and there are not many unlimited data options out there
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
The P&P cost was quite clear. I do think it was too high, but I accepted it and ordered anyway.

Otherwise I was free to go to CPW and get a 16GB model, or pay £200-300 more from O2.

Or I could have not ordered at all and made my own little protest and missed out altogether.

It's a free country and we're all free to make a decision, and free to moan.. but you can't moan when you proceed with an order and accept the terms that are clearly stated!
[Nexus 5 General] chrisjcks:
You never got over 4mb on three?

Their ultrafast internet is in about 90% of the UK now - where you in one of these 10% areas? Or didn't have a phone that supported DC-HSDPA?
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
That happened to me with Hermes and my god I was pissed. Saw the card thought to my self "Damnit I missed it" Until i read it and it said "Safeplacelocation black bin" was like O.O and lo and behold it was in there right at the bottom they were lucky that the box was stained but the inside wasn't touched other wise I would have tracked the driver down shoved him into my bin threw in some glass and wheeled him down a hill. I was annoyed xD
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
Thats strange how you get 10+ MB speed on three network..May be speed of network vary location to location. Is this download speed or upload? Three is more cheaper than T mobile monty tarrifs which is another plus

If i get this speed from three then i will not even look for anything else
[Nexus 5 General] chrisjcks:
Go on threes service checker.

Put your postcode in and see if your in an UltraFast area.

Let me know. :)
[Nexus 5 General] Daveoc64:
I don't see why. Their service is just antiquated compared to other companies. On one hand you have a company like DPD that can show you on a map where your delivery driver is, yet parcelforce can't even tell you that they have your package.

I think the real hatred here is towards Google. It's unusual to have to pay for delivery on a product like this. Free delivery is hard for people to complain about - £10 is a lot of money to ask consumers to pay, even if it's not representative of the cost to Google. Other retailers charge nothing or a lot less for a better delivery service.

That may be true, but this is often transparent to consumers. I can't really think of anything I've ordered where it could have been delivered on a Saturday but wasn't due to the seller not paying extra. Large companies arrange bespoke agreements with the couriers to make these things cost effective.

I'm angry with Google for not shipping these phones in the order that they were purchased. It's exceptionally frustrating seeing someone post that they ordered after me and theirs arrived Saturday, while my order was still sat at "Pending".

Google has simply not handled this launch very well at all. Fulfilling the orders "out of order" when they are having supply problems is just asking for trouble.
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
I am using note 2 and my area is good coverage areas when i look at their website but yea i am lucky if i ever get more than 4MB
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Clearly not everyone can get the maximum speed, as it's no different to ADSL. If you're too far away from your cell site, you'll suffer a drop in speed. It's simple physics! The same that applies to every network. I can't produce a graph, but it's a pretty sharp drop in data speed for not a very long distance, which then slowly tails off.

In that case, you might need to check where the base stations are for each network as that will matter more than anything else.

The fact is, Three has invested heavily in its network for data. In 2011, Three said 95% of all its traffic is data - it's probably even more by now!

Virgin provides some or all of the backhaul data network I believe, as in some cases it won't actually be the distance to the cell but the connection to the Internet from there. I'd say that Three is probably ahead there too, but I'm sure every network has had to invest in faster data networks. EE certainly seems to have improved, and I can get speeds nearing those of Three (same cell site, due to the sharing agreement) on DC-HSPA now.. but not everywhere.

Often Three is WAY out ahead of Orange, because the network sharing doesn't include the backhaul network.

The problem for Three will be coping with increasing demand, especially now it isn't charging extra for 4G. However that is balanced by the fact that 4G is more efficient and will help reduce congestion, and with a pretty amazing 3G network to fall back on, some people might even find that locking to 3G could be more than ample, and faster than it was before - as people switch to 4G.

BTW, in case anything thinks I work for Three or something - let me remind people that I'm a journalist and have SIMs for every network and regularly do speed tests, including sharing info with RootMetrics at times (but not always, as it consumes data and battery).

Three has always won overall for data, but EE is close behind. Three is better value, but Orange/T-Mobile/EE has the fallback to 2G that doesn't really exist anymore with Three (only very select areas) so when we went on holiday to Norfolk, my wife (on Three) had many places with no signal.. but myself (on Orange) could at least get 2G and GPRS or EDGE. Swings and roundabouts.

Personally, I don't care about UK coverage as for the most part I'm using my Three SIM for data at home (three times the speed of my ADSL connection) and when I'm out at work - usually in London.
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
3G coverage.

Excellent service.

You can make calls, send texts, and use the internet on our 3G network. However, the signal strength may vary, when you're indoors.

Advanced 3G coverage.

Excellent service.

You can make calls, send texts, and use the internet on our Advanced 3G (DC-HSDPA) network. However, the signal strength may vary, when you're indoors.

most of time we stay indoor so their logic is pathetic
[Nexus 5 General] chrisjcks:
Well done.

Your in a DC-HSDPA area.

You'll get 10-15mb on that.

I've just ran a test for ya - not the best I've had, but just to show you....
[Nexus 5 General] Oli1122:
I could not agree with you more. :beer:
[Nexus 5 General] alpha beta gaga:
this delivery schedule was clearly shown on the play store order page when you chose to order your device

so which part of that are you struggling to understand when you phoned up to complain?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
Is internet speed of mobile network also depend on number of customers using their internet or it has nothing to do with how many people are using their internet. I have seen many people with three network
[Nexus 5 General] paul_59:
Yes it was more expensive than Google, but I accepted the extra cost to be able to walk out of the shop with it.

Wasn't £549, think £480 if I remember and I know some people will think I am crazy for paying such a premium.
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
I presume that, just like Computer 2000, Expansys have systems in place to manage huge orders like this (and hopefully Expansys are a lot better at it too) and to get the best rates from a courier there are probably some rules on how the goods are packaged and delivered to the courier (whether that's delivered to ParcelForce or picked up, it doesn't really matter).

Assuming that's the case, and I'm sure it is, then ParcelForce probably requires the goods to be at least partly pre-sorted and batched. Expansys will therefore quite likely process things not literally in a first come, first served order, but rather in batches by region. As long as this is done before the 'shipped by' date, it's not really a problem, even if it is a bit frustrating.

I expect every company, even Apple, will do it like this. There must be big discounts for companies that do some of the work for the courier in advance and with any modern stock handling software, it can't be that difficult to do.

In this case, they're working as a factoring company for Google and have no involvement with the person who ordered the phone at all. How they do things doesn't matter, as long as Google can say it shipped on time - or early.

Now, is Google profiting from the P&P cost? Almost certainly yes, but should we be surprised? It's probably another aspect that helps Google offset tax.

But we all agreed to pay it! Ultimately, that's the most important thing. We saw the price, thought 'Seriously?' and ordered anyway!
[Nexus 5 General] Khaiyan:
I wouldn't waste your effort convincing the moaners here, jonmorris. They clearly don't have much sense if they don't know the shipping terms they are accepting when they buy with Google.
[Nexus 5 General] Rajaasim1980:
thats great man. I will find out what i get on three network tomorrow with same app

right now i am on talk talk mobile running on vodafone and it give this scored with same speed test app

6.62 Mbps download speed

1.77 Mbps upload speed

It seem three beat vodafone
[Nexus 5 General] jonmorris:
Yes, which is why Three introduced TrafficSense that can limit speeds between 1500-0000 for certain heavy users, or potentially all users in extreme cases.

I've never noticed anything that would imply I've been restricted based on usage around me, but I accept that it might happen.

Ultimately, if you have too many users in one place, you can't all get maximum throughput at the same time - and that's where capacity comes in, which is something Three has invested a lot in.