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[Nexus 4 General] rajendrakumardbg:
Just a little point of view from my side. Nexus 4 was a cheap phone compared to other flagship but some did not buy because it was cheap but because it was a google flagship with promise of update so if the factory images are not up people are disappointed because google has not followed its trend of released factory images immediately. I got 4.3 factory image the same time the flagship nexus 7 2013 was announced. People who are saying its only fair enough and you will get it soon should realise that its only google which has raised the expectations so when you do that you need to either stick with it or face criticism. Believe me or not google image has gone down for sure. Don't be evil cannot be seen to be devil trust me.

The purpose of getting a nexus device has been vitiated to some extent no matter what counter argument you give to it
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Nexus One took two months to get Gingerbread after the Nexus S was released.

Nexus S got ICS three months after the Galaxy Nexus was released (discounting the horribly broken update that was available for a couple of days).

It's not a new thing.
[Nexus 4 General] d14r1:
Wow, Google misses the mark for 5 days, might take a week, but you're demanding KitKat right away. Please tell me where does it say you ought to be provided with latest and greatest but still not reserve the rights to postpone the update for whatever reason.

I say get busy, it'll come, just don't be a baby! ;)

Regards,
[Nexus 4 General] rajendrakumardbg:
I never said I want it right away. They should have given a tentative time. Trust me they dont owe me anything as i have only bought a cheap nexus device. Say your company pays your salary on 1st every time and suddenly one month they delay it by 4 days and says look we used to do it before u joined at least i wont be happy about it. Same way when the nexus 4, my first nexus device as i had note 1 and 2 before that gets factory image immediately ( 4.2, 4.3)does not get this time i am not happy about it. Well but i am not gonna kill people for this but people have right to be disapointed.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
anyways going back to all you lot here...i agree with everyone else here. but no point going round and round in circles discussing it. and people saying about Google waiting for the N5 to be released and etc and leaving it to be the first device to have it first blah blah again look at apple. do they wait for the new ipad or iphone to be released and then release ios7 for the rest? nope they do it the same day....
[Nexus 4 General] a g bell:
Surely not,how is it possible to have software ready before release day:)?

They must have some higher power

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
look at previously releases...when the iphone 5s got released bam iOS 7 got released for all other devices...so how come we do not have it? why can they not give us a date and be done with it.:) no higher power or anything like that but it is just weird that they can not do the same
[Nexus 4 General] jebatkun:
Yesss...atleast give a exact date google.
[Nexus 4 General] maxsum:
It seems android 4.4 gives me a better battery life.

But sometimes I can't get my phone in deep sleep...
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
Chill out and relax. It will take weeks before we get the OTA. Go outside and have fun... A few weeks will pass very fast.
[Nexus 4 General] CodemasterRob:
Has anyone managed to get Faux123's audio boosting code in a 4.4 kernel? I'm working on editing my own right now, but if someone could save me the work that'd be great :)
[Nexus 4 General] maddoggin:
anyone able to get lte working on nexus 4 using kit kat?
[Nexus 4 General] masterofmayhem:
I really find it hard to believe that Google did not have the correct binaries and drivers to test early builds of 4.4 on all of their nexus devices. Heck, there was data, not too long ago, showing nexus 4 running kitkat pinging various servers. We don't have 4.4 yet because Google wants the n5 to be in the public.
[Nexus 4 General] lupos89:
Are we sure that the nexus 4 will have all the features of nexus 5 with the new Kit Kat 4.4??

https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/2781855?hl=en&ref_topic=3415467

For example....
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Google Now has been with the Nexus 4 for ages.
[Nexus 4 General] lupos89:
read the article.. it seems like we can't open it with a Swipe to the leftmost Home screen

and this is only an example
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
Wow.... I think my predictions were right lol, the launcher will be different for us? i will just take the APK from the N5 then so it really doesn't matter.
[Nexus 4 General] SetPT:
I think we'll not have the new launcher...
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
So? I actually think that the swipe up from the Home button is better than having to watch what I say or have the microphone always listening drain my battery. Our phones don't have the necessary companion core to accomplish that without emptying our battery in three to four hours tops.
[Nexus 4 General] moonwalker1:
Man, didnt know that i need Google Now for the Google Launcher to work. Still waiting for the KitKat-like Nova Launcher.

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[Nexus 4 General] eider96:
Yes, "Google Experience" launcher is only for Nexus 5, and i think it will be like this for all time :) Nexus Help clearly shows other method to organize screens on Nexus 5 and other Nexus devices. Sorry guys - Google wants some big feature only for newest device, because for now, Nexus is just like other device from Samsung or LG.
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
The 'Google Experience Launcher' May Arrive On All Devices By Way Of Google Search Updates
[Nexus 4 General] a g bell:
Lol running launcher on slimkat alpha at present sorry sorry google:D
[Nexus 4 General] eider96:
As they said, Search app needs GoogleHome.apk proxy. They can distribute GoogleHome.apk and updated Search app only for Nexus 5 or only for Nexus devices. They can also add it to Google Play for everyone. But for now - it's clear that only Nexus 5 will have it - otherwise, why Google put two other method of organizing launcher in Nexus help? They can also wait 1 month until publishing 4.4 for other Nexus devices (FEW weeks = max. 9 = 2 months). Also, they can update this section and add Nexus 4 for list after update for 4.4 - that's make sense, because personally i don't see new Google Now opening method on tablets. Anyways, for sure they already have Nexus 4 update, but they don't want to publish it for some reasons.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Is pretty obvious why Google why have different guides for home screen organising for different Nexus devices... only one device has KitKat!
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Just read on Google+ that CM11 is being pushed to Git.

Lets see what they make out of it... although without the proper binaries I can't imagine it'll run much better, also we are still missing the proper GApps (ripped ones from the N5 images don't friggin count, so don't even start with that).
[Nexus 4 General] MJewhurst:
Can someone please help me

I've installed AOSP 4.4 on my Nexus 4. Big mistake, nothing works at all, everything keeps crashing like crazy. Now for some reason I cant flash a new ROM in clockwork. I tried flashing cyanogenmod but its just stuck in bootloop. Please help my phone has become useless
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Reflash a factory image in fastboot and reroot bro.
[Nexus 4 General] Marcb:
why don't just fastboot flash the factory images?
[Nexus 4 General] SamS1989:
i don't really care what we missed out, with google now. in my country we can't use the google asisstant just like the other big countrys.

just need the swipe status/navbar on/off function what i'm really looking for it and the transparent navbar/statusbar :)

this features will be enough for me for a while :D
[Nexus 4 General] daewond3r:
CM 10.2 + new Play Services, Launcher, and Search/Google Now working lovely for me until the factory images are released.
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
According to Wikipedia, the definition for "weeks" is:

Intervals longer than 10 days are not usually termed "weeks" as they are closer in length to the fortnight or the month than to the seven-day week.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

So if Google follows protocol, we should see an official release for our phone no later than November 10th. :laugh::laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
I admire your positive outlook on this...
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Very hopeful of you. lol

I was expecting the 5 to be released on about 4 various dates. Rumors.

We will wait weeks for this update.. December at the very earliest is my guess.

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
when its ready it will be released, there is a process to this and I'm sure if there was another way it would be done that way. Google isn't the one to be blaming here.
[Nexus 4 General] arturodelac:
For those of you that don't believe that the Google launcher is exclusive for the nexus 5 just read the kit Kat start guide on Google play it says that the launcher is exclusive to the n5
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
If it is true then you can just install the N5 launcher anyway. Many people are already running it.
[Nexus 4 General] nexom:
The way I see it Google will release the launcher in the play store eventually. Its in they're best interest seeing how they lowered spec requirements in KitKat
[Nexus 4 General] bjacks12:
I just installed the Google Home launcher on my Nexus 4. My initial reaction so far is ..... meh. Hopefully when the KitKat OTA hits, it brings something more exciting.
[Nexus 4 General] singlebyte:
Not sure if you are aware, but the released 4.4 roms can do "ok google" right now. If you have a 4.4 rom that is not working then you need to install google home.apk and velvet.apk.

http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
[Nexus 4 General] daewond3r:
I have "OK Google" running on CM 10.2 (4.3). You just need apks for the Launcher, new Search/Google Now and Play Services.
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
Trying the leaked home app in 4.3 i was able to use google now from the left screen, so why wouldn't come with the official version. A lot of ppl get the ok google now thing working too. So i think there's no need to worry.

For me, swype from navbar seems pretty ok, as don't result in battery drain and don't need many movements.

And of course, i wouldn't look sexy saing "ok google" in the subway, or in the train, or in the street...
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...s-5-wont-come-to-other-devices-any-time-soon/
[Nexus 4 General] mr turtle droid:
I hope we get a kitkat slimbean! I love his ROMs

Sent From My Liberated E970
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
There is a alpha build floating in original dev section.

Press thanks if I helped you. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Hardly surprising since it launched with ICS and it's still only on 4.1.2
[Nexus 4 General] sherbibv:
can't we just have some patience and wait. Google is going to release 4.4 for our device. Maybe there are some problems with the compiling or something, who knows. I'm sure their doing their best to make thing work for our device.Just have some patience. KitKat will come eventually.:)
[Nexus 4 General] SmXtrem:
But it was big surprise that android 4.4 is not relased for n4
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
Well, since n5, who is the first device in the world should be the first on getting 4.4 and there are not any n5 avaliable yet, I think they are waiting for every n5 to update to 4.4 to let the rest of the devices getting it. It is like if you give a present to your son and it is his small brother who uses it for the first time. The logical thing would be to wait the older one to use it and then let the small brother to do the same :p
[Nexus 4 General] tonyreimer:
Just read that 4.4 been leaked for Moto x.
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
4.4 for MotoX leaked?

source?
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Xda
[Nexus 4 General] zukriaksah:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2445955

ROM: http://www.teamblackhat.net/theorangeremix/MotoX/tmobile_motox_4.4.zip
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
It seems Moto X didint get the google home launcher
[Nexus 4 General] d14r1:
Guys, if you bothered to read KitKat Guide that's available in Google Play, N4 will not be getting google now as implemented in N5 as well as "OK Google", without going to Google now first.
[Nexus 4 General] xMiklo:
Nexus 4 won't get it either (atleast for now)

http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/5/5069310/the-nexus-5-isnt-pure-android-its-pure-google
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Not that it really matters, it installs just like any other app.
[Nexus 4 General] Codrea:
nexus 4 was released on October 29, 2012

based on this news http://www.androidcentral.com/galax...ndroid-421-update-manual-update-available-now

galaxy nexus got 4.2.1 update in november 27, 2012 (after 1 month)

so maybe nexus 4 will get update in the end of november or December.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
4.2.1 is totally different story- it was a calendar bug fix (no december). N4 came with preinstalled 4.2 "...unveiled on October 29, 2012 and released on November 13, 2012..."(according to wikipedia) and the same day galaxy nexus was provided an ota-update (takju).
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
The Nexus 4 went on sale on 13th November 2012, the Galaxy Nexus got 4.2 on that same day.
[Nexus 4 General] sriraviprasad:
I hope we will get translucent navigation bars (moto x leaked 4.4 has it)
[Nexus 4 General] Codrea:
really good that's mean we will get an 4.4 faster than I thought. I am confused with so many version of Galaxy nexus. :laugh:

trying slimkat 4.4 right now and will try it for 1-2 days.

I think I will back to 4.3 before waiting for official 4.4 from google :p
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
I'll decompile both apks and copy the app grid layout to the other apk with "OK Google" and Google now
[Nexus 4 General] [V]endetta:
Look fake.. Statusbar still blue.. Not white..

Hmmmmmm

my droid sent this while having its Kit Kat break
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
Its still a pre alpha, a leak. It wouldn't surprise me if they haven't finished adding changes and adding all the binaries. Remember the update was announced less than a week ago, so carriers and OEMs are still waking up and beginning to code.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/android/23092/kitkat-exclusive-nexus-5
[Nexus 4 General] Mantulis:
Big deal? Not really.

I just go and buy Nexus 5 trololo. Next please :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Logan_M:
Man, you guys are getting upset over nothing.

Check out this Reddit post. It sums up everything pretty much perfectly.

Those are some very legitimate concerns for updates. The Nexus 4 has a more popular processor in it, by a company that is quite heavily invested in the mobile market, so I don't think that our device will have the same fate as the Gnex.

Maybe Google will start stripping updates down a little bit for our device. And I'm okay with that. The S4 Pro is not a processor that could support always listening voice control, but it would be great if Google put that into AOSP to make Android better. And if the Nexus 10 runs better without Transparent bars then that's probably okay; people who actually care about having that feature are probably already Rooted and can get it easily.

Not to mention that it's been less than a week since the KitKat came out, give them at least a week and half before attacking them like rabid animals.

People who are saying stuff like in this post, this post, really need to stop.

We really don't know for sure what's happening with the Google launcher either. It's not much more than speculation at this point. Sure the manual says that it's different on the N5. But maybe they will, like all the other rumors before speculated, release it in the Play Store. Which fits with Google giving updates via the Play Store. But that could be wrong too.

Grow up, everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] TopazUser1:
What if Google is going to enable the LTE in the Nexus 4 with Kit Kat and they're taking a little longer because the FCC certification is behind because of the government shutdown? :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] Daiskei:
If i'm not mistaken, this will never happen on the current Nexus 4 device... I believe it only has one antenna to be used for both HSPA/LTE and for it to pass at the FCC it needs to have a separate antenna for LTE.

Also, the Google Experience launcher works just fine on 4.3 with the new Google Now... Just copy over the APKs when Kit Kat comes out and you'll have it too. Plain and simple.
[Nexus 4 General] mymeatb18:
Really I could care less about the Google now stuff as I don't use it but I do like the transparent lock screen and launcher stuff
[Nexus 4 General] Daiskei:
Well, "Ok Google" from the homescreens works just fine on the N4 as I am running it and use it right now... So I'm really not sure why they're moaning either. The only thing we won't get is screen off recognition of the command and I agree, big deal. People are being crazy.
[Nexus 4 General] d14r1:
Ha! :laugh: That screen off recognition does not work on N5 either, you have to wake the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] sroach23:
So bloggers say these things are exclusive and people believe them. I guess with the accuracy of the dates for the Kitkat announcement show bloggers know their stuff. When was kitkat announced? Was it October 13 or 28?
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Wow.. I was completely wrong... I didn't think Google would stoop to this level... They're purposely fragmenting the OS at feature levels now.. Unreal
[Nexus 4 General] RealSlimShadyMC:
I wonder if this "experiment" google are trying by excluding features will be a massive fail and they'll release a 4.4.2 or a 4.5 update for all devices which includes everything
[Nexus 4 General] :
“Google tells us that the new Launcher on the Nexus 5 is exclusive to the phone — though the company may change its mind and offer it for the Nexus 4 and perhaps even put it on the Play store someday. For now, Google wants to see how users take to the Launcher on Nexus 5 before it offers it on other devices.”

:( Thats not why Im buying a Nexus..
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
They have.
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Correct. They have a few times in the past.
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
Actually there are more important and significant changes than the launcher. The new runtime in kit Kat (ART) that will eventually replace dalvik VMs, is one of the biggest things that ever happened in android. It brings native app execution which is expected to double performance, app speed/launch and limit battery consumption.
[Nexus 4 General] Marcb:
Humm.. interesting stuff...

care to talk more about this new technology?
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
Typically programs are compiled into native code (I.e., machine language compatible with a particular CPU architecture) in order to execute on a platform. However, because android phones have a variety of hardware architectures, android apps cannot be pre-compiled by the dev. Google engineers addressed this using the dalvik virtual machines. What this does in a nutshell is interpret app code into binary code during app execution. This solves the problem of heterogeneous hardware, but adds tremendous overhead, which slows down execution and induces more battery consumption.

IPhone apps are fast because they are compiled into native code, (apple controls the hardware so no need for heterogeneity).

The new experimental android runtime (ART) brings the benefits of both worlds together. Apps are compiled at the device, thus heterogeneity is preserved. However, in ART apps are compiled during installation and subsequently become native apps. Thus, during execution there is no overhead.

The only side effects is slightly bigger app size and a slightly longer installation. However the performance benefits during execution are night and day in comparison.
[Nexus 4 General] Caner092:
Anyone have any idea about that Google will release 4.4 for Nexus 4/7/10 at the same time? Or maybe first 2013 N7 and then N4?
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
True. If you look at the list of main selling points of KitKat (including the N5 percs), the new launcher doesn't stand out that much.

1.Screen Recording

2.Tap to Pay {Google Wallet for everyone}

3.NFC emulation for non nfc devices

4.14% less memory usage

5.Minimum Ram required is 512mb

6.chrome, youtube takes 12%less memory

7.cloud printing from Gallery {Print your photos directly to ur home Printer}

8.Webview is Now Chromium

9.Google Home is the new Launcher

10.New 'Google Home' works only with Google Search app installed

11.Core System Processes Trimmed

12.Apps are efficient and responsive on all devices

13.The all new 'procstats tool details' memory use

14.Payments without needing Secure Elements

15.Printer manufacturers can use new APIs to develop their own print services

16.A new storage access framework allows browse all document storage providers.

17.ART runtime compile support along with dalvik VM {faster runtime}

18.Dalvik JIT code cache tuning, kernel samepage merging (KSM), swap to zRAM

19.Use less heap,Aggressively protect system memory from apps

20.When multiple services start at once —Android now launches the services serially

21.hardware sensor batching

22.Step Detector and Step Counter

23.shared SMS provider and new APIs

24.Full-screen Immersive mode

25.Transitions framework for animating scenes {animate changes to your UI on the fly}

26.Translucent system UI styling

27.Enhanced notification access

28.seamless change in resolution during media playback

29.Common Encryption for protected content

30.HTTP Live Streaming

31.Audio Tunneling to DSP dramatically improve battery life

32.Nexus 5 offers a total off-network audio playback time of up to 60 hours

33.Audio monitoring peak and RMS levels of any currently playing audio

34.Loudness enhancer increase the loudness of spoken content

35.Audio timestamps for improved AV sync

36.Wi-Fi CERTIFIED Miracast

37.RenderScript Compute improves Ongoing performance

38.RenderScript in the Android NDK

39.GPU acceleration for any apps using render script

40.GLES2.0 SurfaceFlinger

41.New HWComposer 1.3 support for virtual displays

42.Bluetooth HID over GATT (HOGP) support

43.Bluetooth MAP support

44.built-in IR blasters, along with a new API and system service

46.Wi-Fi TDLS support seamless way to stream media in same wifi network

47.System-wide settings for closed captioning { appscan show captions}

48.SELinux (enforcing mode)

49.Improved cryptographic algorithms ECDSA

50.Designed to run fast, smooth, and responsively on a much broader range of devices than ever before

51.Phone dialer got local business detection

52.Smart caller ID

53.SMS support for Hangout

54.Emoji support on Google keyboard

55.Redigned Quickoffice

56.Faster smoother,brilliant google voice search

57.swipe left for Google now on Google Home

58.Full Screen AlbumArt on lockscreen
[Nexus 4 General] patstock11:
Are the transparent bars part of the launcher , or no? I'm getting alot of conflicting info whether we r getting them or not...
[Nexus 4 General] manpildo:
I'm not sure if it's part of the launcher, but we're gonna have them transparent.
[Nexus 4 General] eider96:
Transparent bars are part of Android API 19 and every app (like Nova Launcher) can use it, but it's not enabled on every device. Commit 65ddbc2cc5f310a442ba92d319390edacea92cea disabled it on manta (Nexus 10). It's enabled for Nexus 4 and custom launchers will have it for sure ;)
[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees1237:
Would you mind me putting this in the OP? ?
[Nexus 4 General] yewchung07:
Do u guys hav any idea when will we get the official kit kat ota?
[Nexus 4 General] PGvossman:
I read that the LG G2 (which if I recall right is what the N4 is based off) will be getting it in the next 2 weeks or so starting as off the N5's release date, so it shouldn't be too long. However, if another device gets it official before the N4, I'll be pretty mad at Google. I'll probably avoid Nexus's in the future and get a HTC.
[Nexus 4 General] jadephyre:
Our phone is based off of the Optimus G, not the G2.

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