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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BIGSIKE3:
I will pull an all weeker if that's what it takes. :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Awwww **** gears gonna be one rich son of a GUN!!:thumbup::thumbup::D:D:D:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Is this gonna be another sleepless night gears i still owe you on monday i aint forget about you;)

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
heak yea

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im a Guinea on standby just give me a shout on twitter [MENTION=3411295]nutpn[/MENTION] or here
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bizack:
Get that a$$, gears... get it...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] justinglock40:
Straight Android Gangster

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If this works post this to everywhere we can find a developer lol. I think we should try to get more support than the S3, Note2, and S4 together
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
+++1 million
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tomsgt:
Would love to make another youtube video of this process when you figure it out. Keep up the great work and thanks for posting my Root video in your other OP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
I hate breaking XDA etiquette and clutter up a thread, but I'm so excited I don't know what to do right now :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] blap017:
Dont tease us designgears
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Seems like gears went to bed early leaving us thinking hmmmm maybe he solved the puzzle and is just toying with us for the moment til he wake up or maybe i just have a crazy imagination..... lmaooo:D:D:cool::cool:

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
nah, replaced a failing hdd and beat my router with a baseball bat...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Do you think you can crack the locked bootloader when mentioning the puzzle think. Or a safestrap kind of a deal?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
I don't have a Verizon Note 3, so zero progress so far.

Someone offered to lend me an extra, but he had to bail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
... Are you planning on getting one. I think we should take 700$ out of the bootloader bounty for you to purchase a note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
You get these from an African Sock Monkey? ;);)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
Haha, nope.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
Just curious if you have some fairly confident methodology in mind, or is it more tinker time?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
The SGS3 was unlocked with a leaked older bootloader, hoping the same thing can happen :)

If someone can setup emmc boot so they have a way to recovery I can send you some files to flash
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Someone needs a donated note3 :rolleyes:;);););););)

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
I'd be willing to put my pledge towards this
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
The bounty should be used to get him a note3 immediately. I wouldn't get too excited yet though, as we really have no idea if this will open up the bl.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gunthermic:
A way to recovery? I use QuickBoot and I can go into Phone recovery. Am I too assume that is not what you want?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
I mean at least he is ALMOST certain that it can unlock the BL we wont know til he has a device... js

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
I'm wondering why he thinks this will unlock it. And yes, we need to get him a device asap.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
there is no wondering he gave us root why cant he give us a unlocked BL??? unless you can then go for it... i know hash is working on a safe strap witch i GREAT dont get me wrong at all but i rather have an unlocked BL than a safe strap but if it comes down to safestrap than safestrap it will be:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
So we can flash a dual booting uboot.bin for eMMC booting like the NOOK tabs? Didn't think we could since the BL is locked for writing. That's the only way I know how to setup an eMMC boot. Can we get this accomplished then with SS or no?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
Wow! I didn't say I could do it. I was just curious as to why he thought it would.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
gears didn't WIN anything. He EARNED it. He can do whatever he wants with the money. If we want an unlock for our phone I think its right that we take the money out of the bounty for unlock and get him what he needs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
+1 exactly what I said
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] lgoldstein:
I just started working at a Verizon store. When I get into work later I will check to see what our cost on a Note 3 is, perhaps I can get it for a bit cheaper than $700.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
I would be willing to kick in some money to get him a phone. Unlocking the bootloader really determines whether I keep the device or not.

DesignGears - thanks for all your hard work :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
Originally Posted by 2swizzle View Post

I don't think you understand the time and work involved when it comes to programming... Designgears earned his money and deserved every penny, it's no different than going to a 9 to 5 job. He put in the time and we rewarded him the best we could. If he does another job unlocking the bootloader or is in the process of doing a job we'll be happy to give him the supplies he requires to complete the job.

Think about a cop, you don't say "I'm not going to buy you a firearm because we already gave you a cop car...."

Exactly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
Thankyou
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bizack:
Thank you.

[MENTION=2348906]designgears[/MENTION] :good:

Here is a $20 spot. 89A504456W391684T

Thx for all the hard work and dedication to the cause. :highfive:

Peace out!~

~Bizack
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
Dan Rosenberg?

Has anyone higher up the echelon spoken with dan rosenberg, didnt he do a good bit on qualcomm devices motorola and others,..

He may want to take this puzzle [MENTION=2348906]designgears[/MENTION] has, thanks for all dev support we have and will get on this vzw note3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gunthermic:
1. Misconception that he created the Unlocked Bootloader, he re-packaged it. This has been said many times, on many, many threads. LOL He is great.. but others did it.

2. He has stated he will not help/work with Qualcomm devices anymore.

If I have mispoken anything I apolgize.. but that is how I understand it all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BIGSIKE3:
Totally forgot about the Root Bounty, monies sent! and pledging another $20 towards the booloader. Thanks so much for all your hard work Gears!

Confirmation 9TC55197XD989443X
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
oh well, maybe someone will come along. A great in depth article on qualcomm BL motorola by Dan Rosenberg

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tomsgt:
Gears is in :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] blap017:
Thanks for the article great read . I was mind blown reading that. Awesome
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Caveman419:
This is awesome news. I hope that he gets it unlocked. That way there is no need to wait for the Dev Edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
$20 sent. Confirmation number: 9P689521E4240343E

Good luck Gears and thanks again!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
Hmm
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
Do it! We can take money from the bounty!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
NOTE3!!!!!!!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I already have the dollar amount inserted on your paypal page, just unlock the bootloader and collect hahaha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
everyone just went crazy in this thread over a "possibility". one we all hope that will work but theres as good of a chance that it wont as there is that it will. just keep that in mind. all im gonna say is if it does it will be blocked with an ota most likely if u want an unlocked device and want it to stay unlocked after each ota update buy the dev edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
I tried saying this earlier, but got flamed. We need to just relax a bit, and see what happens.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
but if you're unlocked and running customs software wouldn't there be no need to accept an OTA?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gil Smash:
That's my understanding of it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
+1
[MENTION=418212]beans[/MENTION] yo my ninja why you thinking negative!? can we have faith? i mean im just saying he got us root?!!! and i know hash is working on a safestrap... and gears is working on an unlocked bootloader so whats the problem? they are trying... again dont get me wrong beans im not flaming no one here just stating facts... but if you want the dev edition than i say go for it my ninja!!! but like you say we will have to just wait and see if its possible yaay if not safetrap but again im keeping my faith in gears!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
If you're running a custom ROM it shouldn't even prompt you, and even if it did it would fail if you have a custom recovery installed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
I think you need to smokesalotLESS....lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
just my experience with the last samsung phone the s4. without taking ota's things break. ex wifi, mtp, etc.

i have a loki'd s4 but with the 2 most recent updates things keep breaking. they are starting to tie in the functionality of certain parts of the os to the sbls and now the sbls are tied to the aboot(this wasnt the case on the s3) on the s3 we can flash every peice of firmware other than the aboot and still be unlocked. on the s4 we cant it will brick you and im imagining the same will follow suit here.

basically this has caused the vzw s4 to be horribly fragmented. and has mostly killed development.

to solve the problem u need the newest firmware at all times and people still on the mdk aboot cant have it.

more or less if u have an loki'd s4 the only "new" software u can run at this point and have things work is aosp based roms.

basically the whole point of this is the days of unlocking the bootloader and having everything stay working throughout updates are gone( ex. s3 and note2 )
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
Wow I had no clue that was the case. Thanks for the good information. I was in the dark coming from the N2. Hopefully things aren't like that but I can definitely see where you're coming from now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
That's pretty crappy. Never realized that was the case. Oh well mostly happy with rooted N3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pkd600:
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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pkd600:
Damn.. that sucks. I came from the S3 so didn't realize things had changed this way. Does this also mean we have the possibility of losing Root after each new OTA?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
im not trying to spoil anybodys fun i want an unlocked bootloader as much as the next person.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
Not at all, I appreciate you bringing us up to date on the new ways Samsung screw us because I was unaware of these
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
i personally think the way root was done will work for a while its not a normal kernel exploit that can just be patched. it is VERY CLEVER how it was done :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] repsol_23:
Not a spoil, but it's always nice to know why things don't work as we would expect.

Thanks for the info!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] PhilPan:
Beans,

Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know much. But if we were to get an unlocked bootloader; and then Verizon started pushing out updates, preventing things from working on the phone, as they did with the S4. Then wouldn't we be able to use the firmware from the developer edition on the retail phone, beings we unlocked the bootloader? When Verizon releases updates don't they release them for the developer edition as well?

I'm just curious. I certainly don't want to have to buy a developer edition, but I really want to run your rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
no because they are signed differently the dev edition files wont work on retail :(

imho the best bet for us(retail) is safestrap and the root method working throughout updates
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
As long as we got root I'm good... I don't want to give even more money to Samsung, plus with Xposed around it does mostly everything I need.

P.S Beans still waiting on at Note 8 rom you promised :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] PhilPan:
I'm with you. I would just like a stripped down version.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
i think EVERYONE needs to smoke so ya can calm down my ninjas lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
Originally Posted by 1313SAM

"Please don't encourage dirty flashing. Dirty flashing is like unprotected sex. Yes it may feel better and take less work, but who knows what may happens later. Even though sometimes you still get surprises when you do things right. At least you know you took precautions and where to look for problems "

This is amazing :good::good::good::D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bizack:
I can so totally relate to this...

I got a phone call 18 months later... You want to meet your daughter? :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
lls i like the way the subject was changed lol but yea not my quote as you guys can tell it was funny
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bizack:
And for all you ADD people, Look over there, "It's a Chicken"!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
I am really confused about a comment you said earlier and need some clarification . Did you say The dev. Edition software is significantly different from this edition and their software is not compatible ? If so , is there a slight risk of incompatible roms? I thought the only difference would be unlocked bootloader . So if they start developing roms , and by some miracle we get the retail edition bootloader unlocked , can we still use the roms made for the dev edition for the retail edition ? And vice versa ? :confused:

Thanks Boss !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gil Smash:
Doesn't sound like it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
The main basic differences is unlocked bootloader. Both will have tw and s pen etc etc but they are going to be signed differently and not run the same builds aka not cross compatible
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Porkshanker:
If the boot loader is never unlocked does this mean no Jelly Beans ROM for us?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
he stated earlier if the Retail version gets SafeStrap he'll develop for both.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
The bootloader really doesn't matter much, in fact the dev and retail most likely have the same one. It's a lot of things combined that lock up the bootloader. Based on these files.. aboot, rpm, sbl1, sdi, and tz all have something to do with it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
have you gotten any closer to the unlock with testing?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Were you able to get a testing unit? Thanks again for fighting the good fight for all of us :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
anything you need just let us know and "if we have it",
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bern612:
In post #11 techsavy2 said there was a way to pull the factory recovery image. Could you make mods in that and flash it through odin? Or I guessed flaming myself. If it was that easy, we wouldn't need a unlocked boot loader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] toddnbrown:
So, to be clear, what you are saying is that a fully unlocked bootloader has no advantages over safestrap? With an unlocked bootloader, couldn't parts of the firmware updates be implemented into ROMs and kernels so there wouldn't be the issue with "things breaking?" I thought that unlocking the bootloader was like the holy grail here, and what you are saying is that it could actually be problematic? When the Note 2 got the unlocked bootloader, that was a HUGE deal. Very confusing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
He is saying unlocked bl is exactly what we want. Ss is OK, but not ideal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
sounds like samsung is putting pieces needed for proper function in the bootloader. so when we unlock a bootloader we don't want to upgrade bootloaders as it will be relocked. there for when people upgrade their TW roms to the latest OTA it won't work quite right. That's how I'm understanding it.

Basically lets say we do get it unlocked now. All TW based roms will have to stay MI9 based. they can incorperate fixes but for someone like Beans who rebases his rom when there is an official ota, The base can't work properly without some of the pieces in the OTA provided bootloader.

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He is saying Dev edition is ideal. With an "unlocked" or "cracked" boot-loader that you can't upgrade, will hinder development as OTA's won't function properly without pieces that are coded into a newer bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Well gears what you get from the verzion store hmmm!??? Lol

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
Nothing, they wouldn't take my money. Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
Probably just went there with his laptop to try flashing the demo model lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
No, that recovery.img is signed by Samsung. If you mod it, it won't flash because the Sig would change. AND it wouldn't boot because the system wouldn't take. AND.....list goes on and on. You're right, its def not that simple. 2 -3 yrs ago that method worked fine.....now Verizon is drunk on power.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
How come?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bern612:
Thank you for the answer
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
Riiiiiiight!!:p:D:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
I don't have any accounts with verizon, they seriously wouldn't take my money.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
:what: BS come to my store gladly take your money!!:D:cool::thumbup:

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
what about swappa? there are a few up there
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
Plus last time I looked swappa was cheaper after tax anyways.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
Yeah vzw is a pain like that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
Or get a new line buy the phone on 2yr term walk out turn around and hand em 350 to cancel and keep the phone laughing out the door.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
My turn for some questions.... why can't we implement the same procedure with the original Bootstrap from the Droid X/Droid 2 days? Isn't Safestrap based off of that? I know HW and SW change, but can't find the answer when bootstrap went dead. I went to HTC after the Droid X so I never kept up with the old 2nd Init method.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
They did do that, hence why safestrap is now used on S4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
safestrap is the old bootstrap on steroids :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
So then what happened to being able to use custom kernel? I still have my DX somewhere running an old version of MIUI with a custom kernel. Don't remember what kernel...(stupid memory, hehe)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
Try Best Buy, had to get my note three there because I work for a verizon retailer. The phone is on my company's no buy list and can't order online having an employee account. Best buy had no problem selling it to me at retail without activating it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
miui ran on top of the motorolla kernel they had to tailor every aspect of it to work with the kernel dont expect to see that happening anymore lol, only reason i know this is because i was the miui.us maintainer of the ics builds for droid x, droid2 and droid 2 global
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
Say what? How does that make sense?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
which part?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
I tried best buy as well, same thing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
swappa?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
Really? Surprised Best Buy here was like "yea whatever that's fine"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GTvert90:
Why are you not allowed to purchase a n3 working for a retailer? To make sure the costumers get first dibs?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
I can get one for you. I work for verizon if you want we can process your order. Im telling let me help out but thats if you want. Not forcing you to but it your choice i really dont understand why vzw is like that??

EDIT: Or i can sell you mines

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
Now my memory is coming back...forgot that you were the maintainer back then. Thanks for then and thanks for now! I for one would be happy with either SS or unlocked bootloader. If need be, selling the retail and get the dev edition. Thanks for the history lesson and knowledge! :highfive:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] nutpn:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2487031

This guy is selling his
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
I'll sell ya mine, plus I'll overnight it for free :)

I buy/sell phones anyways so I have plenty of backups till I can get another N3.

PM sent.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
Check this out :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] blap017:
Voided Knox you get it booted with the engineering bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
debuigging bootloader :D keep them fingers crossed!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
:eek::D:thumbup::beer:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gloster2:
The ducks are in the pond
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
IRONY..........when you have an account, they'll take literally ALL your money.......:eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gunthermic:
What are we suppose to see on that very, very, very large picture that we have to scroll all over the place to even see parts of it?

I see Knox Warrenty has been tripped...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KennyG123:
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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gunthermic:
Thank for cleaning it up Kenny.

Now back to matter at hand of getting a Unlocked Bootloader.