yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Still no joy. Redownloaded. Checked Md5 sum. Reflashed in recovery. Messages indicate flash successful. Reboot and see normal "android updating". After boot it's not installed. Never seen anything like this before.

Edit: all good now. SuperSU was disabled. Enabled it and everything is cool. Thanks to all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Make sure you guys go into the play store after flashing and update supersu.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Team,

Is this what we want?:

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SM-N900V

I believe JSS15J.N900VOYUBMJ3 is the build number of my Note 3 Developer Edition:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I think thats it. Hit up beans and see!

[MENTION=2498389]xXJay_RXx[/MENTION] i can't PM you until you delete some messages haha it says you have to many.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Kernel.tar.gz 139,510 KB
Platform.tar.gz 773,012 KB
README_Kernel.txt 1 KB
README_Platform.txt 1KB
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Is that it then?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Beans says no.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Thank you very much for creating & posting your guide.

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I posted also. And thank you very much for the work you did with twrp.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Wahh :'(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
That's the irritating part: normally they release the source before the phone hits the shelves - as I understand it, they're technically required to by their GPL agreements. I imagine we'll get it, we're just such a small niche that they are taking their time.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
That's why we need more people to post in the link below specifically asking for the Developer recovery .tar usually provided via Kies. There are only 7 replies and we have 30+ who voted in this thread that they'd buy a Developer edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
Everyone has opinions. Not everyone looks at a post and interprets it the same as the next person. I have appreciated your help around the forums but you've recently intervened on one of my posts that's was not called for. You made it seem like I didn't understand something when intern the person didn't understand my post. Good idea to move on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I have no problems with the OP and I accept his opinion. Smart remarks get smart replies thats all...you are being too sensitive if you thought I was trying make you feel inferior. My apologies to you and the OP if you both feel this way!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
What a back-handed quasi-apology.

Expected response: "Who said I was trying to apologize?"

Come on guys, grow up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
Can we please just keep it Note 3 related? Han Solo how do you like that bad boy? I don't know if I can wait for the dev edition.

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How many of you bought the white n3? Thinking of switching bit up from the black phones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
LOL

I switched TO the white from the black yesterday!

White looks much more elegant to me, and doesn't show up greasy fingerprints nearly as much. With a black S-View cover, it looks awesome.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GEMINI365I:
oOoh OoH I want a GN3. Can you guys tell me when the DE comes out? I will be getting paid pretty soon and I want a new phone. Coming from Sprint! Currently have the GN2.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
That's some great feedback. I might take the plunge this weekend
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I realize my tone may come off a bit confrontational, and I apologize in advance. It isn't my intent to start a fight!

What amazes me about the dev. ed. vs. subsidized argument is how few people are willing to put their money where their mouths are. It is all well and good to go on and on about how we should be able to do what we want with hardware we buy and all phones should have unlocked bootloaders and simple root, but when the manufacturer makes exactly that available, so many can't be bothered to spend the extra money or wait an extra month.

It isn't about whether or not you can get what you want from Verizon's bloated version, it is about voting with your dollar - the only vote that really means anything!

Just my 2 cents.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
there is a bigger issue here. I paid full retail for the note 3 through verizon. And was thinking about the developer edition but i would have to return the note 3 by next thursday. And then wait for the developer one and that is where we run into the issue. the issue is not the money it is that what happens if i dont get a developer in time and it gets sold out asap and i didnt get a chance to buy one? Then i go back to verizon to buy one of contract again and it had an update and root is blocked or no chance of bootloader ever like the s4 update. Then you are back to waiting for another month for another de to go live. not sure i am willing to take that risk right now make sense?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Well, no that isn't a bigger issue, that is the definition of a smaller issue - a personal issue. You have to decide what is more important: standing up for what you believe in, or having your new toy ASAP. The Dev editions do sell out, but they eventually make more available. If the market demands more, they will sell them!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
but how long are you willing to wait? if the note 3 comes out first week in November and sells out quick and doesn't come back for another month i dont think its worth the wait and especially with the supposed bootloader unlocking being worked on over in other thread so not sure the dev edition will be worth it yet
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Indefinitely. I won't buy another locked bootloader phone if I can avoid it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
This is exactly my problem !

you summed it perfectly and i also have till thursday ! And now beanz clarified that even if we get the bootloader unlocked, we will still have issues and ultimately dev edition is the best.

So i manned up and said with this phone, only root will make me happy, it has great speed, options , verizon didnt c**k block anything like they usually do ( well almost anyway ).

Then came a bigger issue in my head, there are a few quirks my phone has right now , such wifi connectivity issues and also AWS update which i am not sure if it will require a radio update.

What is that requires updating the firmware or rom , and we risk potential loss of root ?

Now i am stuck again, dev edition vs retail edition

I hate this conundrum, I hate verizons monopoly on the market so much , because they have the best spectrum , they push us and the manufacturer around like little toys ( sorry had to rant there )

You seem to have the same line of thought as mine verbatim, what do you think ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
right now i am sticking with verizon one. with root the phone is fast and now with the bypass and bootloader unlock talks without tripping knox over in the other thread we would be golden i think there is enough interest and dev work on the verizon one that they will either unlock or get a work around and i also believe its about the money. yes a dev one will be cake to do everything on but with a handful of people on it donations will be limited and no big bounty for unlocking/bypassing bl agreed?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
the dev edition

see , this is where i am confused, i thought the boot loader will be automatically unlocked for dev edition , without need for a bounty or anything.

Thus a recovery would be as easy as flashing it , and then we can just inject superuser from there .

so unlocking bootloader is not needed for dev edition

now rooting it , wouldnt that be as easy as flashing su from recovery once we place whatever recovery we want on the unlocked bootloader ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
right it will be unlocked much like tmobile versions and correct recovery would be easy as cake and then just install su zip in twrp/cwr and you are set to go as long as somebody has a compatible twrp or cwr build. yup just a zip flash in recovery for root thats it. devs will love it but no money to be made in my eyes and everything this century revolves around money so i see the verizon one still getting a workaround

edit: seems designgears hit a wall and could be a dead end for unlocking/bypassing BL i may have to rethink my decision to keep verizon note 3 and jump to dev one
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
me too

as much as i hate returning my beautiful toy and possibly dealing with best buy return ban for 90 days , i feel like this is the better option .

What i completely forgot about is how easy it is to inject su from a custom recovery, thus future proofing root accessibility , despite software updates. even if there is an update that restores recovery to the default state, all i have to do is re-flash recovery again on the unlocked bootloader . Thank you so much for conversating with me , i finally have a decision !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
What decision have you made? & I'm on phone right now with Samsung holding for info on release of dev one. I'm leaning heavily toward returning Verizon note and jumping for dev one since I can use my s off HTC one in the meantime just don't want to give my baby up lol this thing is so nice
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
found out nothing i was on hold forever and they couldnt tell me anything besides that it is real and coming soon. price is expected to be full retail same as verizon or slightly higher. i think i am returning mine and waiting for dev n3 and hope and pray i buy one before it sells out!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
I hear you

I know I hate giving up my phone too.

I am going to play with it till my return date , just to be absolutely sure that this is the phone for me ( although i am 99.99 % sure ). Then I will get the developer edition once its release, till then , I will be using my s3.

I came to this decision because of the following reasons:

1- Having loki or safe strap are systems I never worked with, but from what i gather, they can be borked with updates. Updates will come, there are always bugs that samsung is fixing and we also have kitkat to worry about.

2-With dev edition , there is no worry of losing root, unlocked bootloader = custom recovery = no massive gimmicks to wait for root, should the current root method be borked. I really tried to survive without root on this phone , it didnt feel like my phone , i felt like it owned me , not the other way around.

3-with dev edition, I will have current updates released in rom format, without having my hand on my heart every time an update is release that might bork functionalities

Look at beans' explanation :

4- Which means, workarounds are not even the answer , even if they do come by some miracle. To me , an 800 dollar phone ( including tax an accessories ) should be my phone , not verizon's . The phone , i absolutely hate saying it , is not worth owning without root.

5- We may have achieved root now , but what about when the next update comes and the one after. Nothing is guaranteed unless you have a dev edition with the capability of swallowing any recovery you slap on it. Then inject SU on whatever rom. this is your own personal guarantee against verizon , and against failure of workarounds.

6- i am paying full price anyway for the phone to keep unlimited, its extremely childish on my behalf not to get the dev edition , just because i dont wanna wait a month or two. I tested the phone and it absolutely needs root, i love everything about it. it is worth the wait.

7-Thanks to beans and you, i finally made came to the conclusion. My worst fear was to get a dev edition that would need its own development just to achieve root, but i remembered that this is not the case with fully open bootloader dev edition. that was the final moment of hesitation , which is now decimated.

pfew !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
I sent an email to CS and to the Samsung Office of the President as well. Supposedly this is the highest level of customer service. Worth a shot if anybody else has a minute:

president@sta.samsung.com
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
if flashing any of the current roms and using twrp u need to flash this after or u will be kicked to download mode

http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291676094

the boot image in the deodex and hyperdrive didnt have the dtb.img in it so it wouldnt boot this is the reason i didnt tell anyone about twrp working i wanted to get the boot.img fixed first
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Thanks, a lot! I noticed that the file name is "MJ7_insecure_kernel.zip". Our phones are running MJ3. This is OK?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
what did you write ?

What are we asking for in the email , aside from source, stock odin files ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
All the ROMs are based off mj7 so yes I will also have a flashable modem shortyl

Sent from my SCH-I545 running cm 10.2

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Stock Odin recovery files for dev edition

Sent from my SCH-I545 running cm 10.2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
youre cool beans you can blame me for flashing twrp and going nuts we know you had a good reason to keep it a secret! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
So im trying to download the recovery from Droidstyle thread but I can't get Goo.im to download TWRP for me. Does anyone know why? Or can anyone post it for me? Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Go to the main twrp website and search for note 3. It will give you the option to download from a mirror. That works.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
Thanks I knew someone had mentioned something about this before but couldn't remember
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] somethingsomethingroot:
Y'all are the best. Phone is rooted with TWRP and everything. Some quick dumb questions

So we can flash SS Roms via TWRP on DE without issue?

The Phone app FCs twice after reboot ever since flashing TWRP. Everything works afterward so I'm not too worried, but why would this be happening?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
We download the T - Mobile version right? I can't seem to find a Verizon variant
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Yes the tmobile one

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition

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Look at beans post a few up from yours

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
Thanks bud
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NWNJ:
Part of the reason there are not more replies is because we can't. I have been trying all day. I set up an account and it won't let me. Others have said the same.

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Email sent.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Try a different web browser.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NWNJ:
Thank you but different browser idea is not working either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Beans,

Trade me your galaxy note 3 dev edition for my locked edition! Thanks pal!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I got one for sale for $1000 lol

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Samsung doesnt restock soon and people might consider that haha watch out

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I would sell for $1000 & wait again lol

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Not me. I'll wait it out. :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
Thinking about putting it on Swappa or CTO just for sh*ts and giggles n see what people are willing to give up :p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Haha that'd be mean

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
did you get my PM?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Yeah sorry. Tapatalk isn't pushing notifications for some reason

[MENTION=5297338]oneandroidnut[/MENTION] good luck selling yours on swappa. theres a lot now haha

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I'm not selling lol I didn't get a pm :( lol you all cutting me out haha

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
He sent me an img file anyways cant flash that or odin it. Dont feel bad haha

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Haha ok

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Just posted something on the Samsung developer forum. 11 comments & counting, let's get this stock image from Samsung! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Maybe Samsung will be smart and order more than 20 this time so that way all of us that want one will be able to order one without waiting. The wait is killing me! :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Lol all the hubub about the DE and you guys are jumping ship already?

To be honest I'm not worried about if/when they fill the backorders. I'm completely satisfied with my rooted, ss' d, and now rom'd retail N3. It didnt take long and from the sounds of it development will soon be picking up. I can live without AOSP and kernels. Running HD right now and this thing is flying.

A little beans love and this beautiful beast of a (white ;) ) phone will be complete.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cveez11:
I have tried Internet Explorer, chrome, and mozilla. It will not let me in. It is almost like the site is messed up. I can actually read what had been written but it is a hard to get to and still won't let me post. I will send the email, but posting on the forum doesn't look like it's going to happen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I have to pay full price for a phone anyways so by getting the developer edition I won't ever have to worry about losing root which is the only reason I'm getting a developer edition plus I hate everything that Verizon does so this is just like kicking them in the nuts and that's what works for me :) I love Verizon and I love their cell phone coverage for 4G but I don't like the fact that everything that you buy from them is locked and that it has all their b******* on it (which you can't remove and or mod). And where I live the coverage for any other carrier is horrible so I'm stuck with Verizon if I want decent cell service.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Oh yea I'm not knocking anyone for buy the developer editon. I'd planned on selling my retail N3 and picking up the DE. However with a fully working SS , I personally don't have the need to switch. And with the help of Beans, Hash, Designgears etc etc, I believe we're bending Verizon right back over and giving it to them worse. These amazingly brilliant devs are cracking what's suppose to be completely locked and un-crackable.

With a wonderful and willing community (donations, bounties) we've done our part in helping stick it back to Verizon. .of course its all BS from the get go that they lock us down. I'm now runnkng a custom ROM on a rooted phone I paid $210 for (shot at VzW, not DE purchasers) and kept my unlimited data on a phone that's not supposed to be able to run custom firmware.

TL; DR - I signed up for the waiting list to grab a DE N3, and sell retail. But with root, fully functioning SS and custom ROM's already out; I'm content with the retail N3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
What should happen is that the people that want to mod should buy a developer device because that will create more of a market for Samsung to bring those devices to us if there's only a couple of us buying them they're not going to want to keep doing it maybe but you never know. These hacks and development for our phones (the retail one's mind you) are great and I know that everybody appreciates the work that every developer does they do a lot of great work the developers are phenomenal but with everything that's developed your showing Verizon & Samsung exactly what they need to fix and you'll have the situation that you have with Motorola phones which are basically impenetrable now (boot loader wise and soon root will be the same). They have a lot of smart people working for them but they do not have the time to hunt down every single bug which is where we get these hacks from but with every hack comes a patch and Samsung will learn what to do and what not to do and there will be a point where we won't be able to do what we do.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Glad you're happy with what you have, but I think you're missing the larger point of the DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
You will love it up to the point where the next update patches root and you lose

SS. Support unlocked bootloaders and buy the DE. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
I'm picking up mine in the morning! I'm still hitting that f5 so I can help keep an eye out for those who want one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Hmm keep trying I guess? I used Firefox & was able to post a comment on the first try. To those that are having trouble posting definitely send that email. Every little bit will help get samsung's attention!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I think you forget we are not forced to take the next update/ therefore nothing will change for those who have SS & root right now... :laugh: This risk we run is needing a replacement device and getting an update firmware. On the plus side Hashcode has a note 3 retail and plans to continue developing.... ya boy
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
To each his own. Shouldn't have to worry about a patch though. I love having a full recovery where i can just flash whatever, whenever and i love kernals. It depends on your wants/needs really.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
Beans has stated before that like the S4, Samsung/Verizon will encode important stuff into the bootloader (wifi, bluetooth, maybe something more important, etc) so when a new update is out n developers update their ROMs to newer bases, some stuff might not work or might have issues due to there being code in the new bootloader that can't be implemented into the old bootloader that's keeping root/SS. But Hash does have a retail Note 3 so I'm sure the ones on the retail Note 3s will be safe with Hash around
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Thanks folks.

I've updated my the thread title & original post to clearly indicate that we're specifically requesting the Stock Odin Recovery (.tar) file(s).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
I'm certainly not knocking anyone for buying the DE or saying to choose retail over it is the only way to go. To each their own, tis the beauty of android.

All I'm saying is id planned on selling my retail N3 and grabbing the DE. With SS and ROM's, I personally don't have the need. And believe me, I fully understand and support the larger point of unlocked bootloaders.

I feel we're doing more by buying retail devices at subsidized prices and supporting the developers who crack them then buying (in some cases for the 2nd time) a version of the phone that should have been available in the 1st place, or had the capabilities in the first place. Id rather give my money to the devs than Verizon/Samsung. That's just me.