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[G2 General] hydeah:
Thanks for stopping by to share your feedback.

I was about to wipe my G2 but I read a few other threads here and elsewhere, and it seemed like wiping was not the answer as most people who had this problem consistently kept having it regardless of what they did at a normal user level.

I turned on the "temp off" trick to see if it helped, it is very hard to tell but I did see some improvement.

I wonder, is there any website or page or app that we can use to gauge how well the scrolling works after these modifications?

Instagram is one thing but not a lot people have many pictures on instagram.

I tried facebook today and kept loading a long page, and it scrolled very well actually, but then when I open app like tapatalk it seems to cough here and there. Something keeps making me thing that this whole thing is data/transfer related, I see that scrolling issue happen whenever there is something going on that requires phone to transmit/receive data as it scrolls like retrieving images continuously when you scroll past something.
[G2 General] michi491:
Just to let you now : I changed my home screen animation to Breeze and no more lag.... No need to change high temp prop
[G2 General] hydeah:
I doubt that this is a solution since the lag is not just home screen related. Plus I love the carousel effect.

After a few days with hi temp prop, I am beginning to see some difference and I will turn it off after a week of usage to see if it was placebo or not.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 General] Symbian_Black:
They'res a version of Antutu that gives you the best performance benchmarking
[G2 General] hydeah:
Which one? The normal Antutu gave me 30,000 while others were getting 35000.
[G2 General] GibMcFragger:
Just tried it. Definitely noticeably faster. Let's see how it impacts battery life.
[G2 General] Sean473:
I typed the code on my D802 but there is no high temperature property in my menu.. What is it called?
[G2 General] lazer77:
Kind of feels like it made it lag more, we'll see tho.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Breeze is definitely the smoothest of the home screen transitions. Very satisfied with it.

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99% of the lag that I existence is when I exit and app and start swiping the home screens right away. Breeze fixes that.
[G2 General] hydeah:
I didn't think the lag people were talking about was specifically referring to home screen.

I applied this mod few days after getting G2 so I am not sure if it made a big difference on home screen (I moved from carosel to basic just recently, until then carosel never lagged either) but overall the lag that has been bothering me is still there (scrolling lag, go to settings/general/apps and scroll up and down, it is never smooth). Would you call this lag? I don't think so, since it does not interfere with regular operation, for example I never have "lag" when I answer a call, or when I start an app, etc. I think we are talking about a different type of "stutter".

I looked at someone's kitkat video (I think that's what it was) and they scroll up and down and they use split screen, scrolling up and down, not a single skipped frame or stutter. So this mod apparently did not fix it for me, and I plan to revert to stock settting and use it like that a bit more and then see what happens.

Since we can root the 10o now (as posted in ioroot thread) I am seriously considering rooting and getting a custom rom just to get rid of these.

Otherwise I am very happy with this phone, scrolling lag aside, just annoying but not a deal breaker.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I see what you mean. The lag I experienced is when I exit an app, soon as I start swiping through home screens it hangs for a second really bad then it becomes smooth again. It has yet to lag when I use the breeze scroll effect. Luckily it's my favorite effect so I'm good.
[G2 General] hydeah:
Yeah, I don't think I ever experienced that or had it so much that it bothered me. Is it possible this mod helped eliminate it? Perhaps.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 General] Floodland:
Well, it seems that the default temperature throttling mechanism by LG is far from good.

Still, for the ones which have (unjustified) overheating, (annoying) lag issues and (pretty) bad battery life, you should check the processes hammering your devices. The shipped ROMs are usually *REALLY* bloated.

Even the most basic internal Android processes sometimes sucks. Media scanner is a good example of the worst programmed software available: It only needs a broken photo/media file to hang and crush any device CPU usage forever, and not even wiping the device will help solving that... And that is just a simple example, there are high chances that your lag reasons are not hardware but software related. In that case, enabling/disabling LG throttling will not help, only partially mitigate your real issue (in the best case).

People experiencing any of the symptoms mentioned before should check which processes are crushing your device cores. Get a software which graph your device cores usage by processes, shut the culprit down and enjoy the beast in your hands... 4 cores running at +2ghz with 2gb RAM should not get lag, at all...

Enabling/Disabling the throttling will not make magic, better find your daemon!
[G2 General] gummybear00:
So does this DISABLE the thermal cpu throttling or does it ENABLE it?

I'm guessing it DISABLES it so the CPU is running at 100% speed all the time, making the device run much faster. If this is true, then it should also drain battery faster and be more unstable/dangerous for the phone because it can overheat in certain conditions. You can't wait 0.1 seconds so you gotta mess with manufacturer settings? Come on now.

Can anyone confirm what this setting actually does?
[G2 General] mannequin:
by 4 cores running do you mean the tweak to disable the MP decision and multi core power saving?
[G2 General] Floodland:
Not exactly, I expect the power saving algorithms to ramp up as quick as expected when needed. Unless there are hungry/hung processes running there should not be any lag with these devices.

Best way to avoid lags is to install a clean ROM (several available) and avoid using crappy software. On top of that, you could try an optimized Kernel (take a look at Dorimanx Kernel published some days ago just here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2614400).
[G2 General] bassdroid:
So for sprint just turn the mitigation off I presume?
[G2 General] Navarro1978:
What you talking about people? What lag? No lag on my LG G2.
[G2 General] mariotme:
Animations do lag from time to time. Compared to my nexus 5
[G2 General] jgohil:
So is this still possible or did the OTA break it? Can't get any of the codes working on my T-Mobile G2.

I get invalid MMI...
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Yup no longer seems to work.
[G2 General] billman99999:
I have the Sprint G2 variant. At first I though I was being too picky about the lag. Home screens would lag when swiped quickly. I only have 3 home screens activated so I thought this was weird but I thought I could hang. Sometimes the camera would take too long to snap a pic. This bummed me out because I am a camera Guy! The camera was a main decision in me getting this phone. I decided to let it go and hoped this might be addressed in the Kit-Kat update. The clencher was when I was reading the News on the Flip Board app. Flip board was buttery smooth and fast on my Optimus G which I gave to my father when I got the New Optimus G2. On the G2 it lags. If you are breezing through articles super fast it rarely lags but if you pause to look at an article for a sec and then go to flip to the next article it lags noticeably. By turning the temp setting mentioned in all these threads to "off" it fixed everything. Thank you people of XDA!

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I forgot to add that I commonly had to repeatably double tap the screen to make the knock feature work and now after the mod it works the first time, every time!
[G2 General] billman99999:
Does anyone know if there is a way to keep to thermal mitigation form turning it's self on automatically after I have turned it off. Sprint Variant. Thanks in advance!
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
The numbers work if you don't use * in the beginning.
[G2 General] Chikko:
Tried out on my european version D802, and that's true, more less lag but not gone!
[G2 General] hydeah:
I used this for 1 month then reverted.

No difference on stock 80010o.

No major bothersome lag except slight stutter on scroll, which improved a lot after 10o update.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 General] Tinchoska:
it probably works but... that option is about temperature security right? if you put to not be activate you might have (tell me if ia m wrong) some danger on make it being really hot
[G2 General] :
Hi,

No, the thermal throttling is still activated. It's just that the CPU temp limit before thermal throttling is increased a little. Stock is 60°C and with this trick it's 70°C (and this CPU can handle 100°C, so...).

Maybe you'll feel your phone a bit warmer than before (in heavy tasks like games) but no worries about it, there is always thermal protection.

So the CPU freq decreases according to the CPU temp to avoid damages (to decrease the CPU temp) and in any case there always the "ultimate" thermal protection: shutdown.

You can change the setting described in the OP, only "High Temperature Property OFF". I use it since I have my G2 without any issue, like much users here. In any case if you think it's not good, you can easely revert back to the original setting by switching again "High Temperature Property OFF" to

OFF

.

But don't touch this one: "Thermal Daemon Mitigation OFF", or here it's always hard reboot in heavys tasks.

:)
[G2 General] poochewer:
there is simply no way that you can damage your processor from running it! Microprocessors are the toughest component in your device. As someone said earlier there are many other safeguards within your circuitry, including built in thermal throttling. Obviously, thats why when you run antutu over and over, it produces a lower score.Because its getting hotter and slowing down. It will not explode!!!
[G2 General] 2mustange:
How does this affect the battery life?
[G2 General] robin786:
+1

Does battery life took a hit after enabling this trick?

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] :
Hi,

Better is to test by yourself to see, since this mod is easily reversible, it's not to hard to test for a few days...

Maybe in heavy games, for example, it would make a difference because with this mod the max CPU freq can be used longer than without it (since the CPU temp limit before thermal throttling is increased)... But not sure there will be a huge impact on battery life.

In normal use I never seen an impact on battery life, at least for me...

If you want some reading: http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=253125481 (some comments are... :p)...

:)
[G2 General] vPro97:
But sted you guys sure that this doesn't disable throttling completely, just moves the sweet spot of throttling?
[G2 General] :
Hi,

The thermal throttling is not disabled, it's sure at 100% (follow exactly the guide in the OP, don't change anything else)...

Just the CPU temp limit is increased to 70°C instead of 60°C, you can test by yourself with an app to see the CPU temp/CPU freq.

:)
[G2 General] Higgins12:
I'm not seeing much of a difference except on battery life. Lag is the same as before if any. But about 10% more battery usage.
[G2 General] robin786:
I was sceptical initially but after enabling this, a quick reboot, everything went on gracefully. It's that smooth.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] Gnarfsan:
Regarding temperature:

The SOC will probably survive, but the temperature limitation might be there to protect surrounding polymers and components like the screen. LG probably added this limitation for a reason. It might just be overprotective, but then again, it might not.

And another thing. A CPU (or other silicon based components for that matter) age more rapidly when exposed to more power. This is caused by perforation of the insulating layers by electrons. The higher the voltage, the more likely electrons are to damage the insulating layers. Over time this will make the state of the transistors unstable and cause calculation errors.
[G2 General] vPro97:
Well gnarf, as you know, this doesn't change the voltage of anything, and you are right about the temperature but the thermal throttling isn't the only safety factor
[G2 General] 2mustange:
Yeah i've seen a decrease in battery life.

But my use has been above my average use recently so im going to check back later when i have used it on my normal schedule.

I usually can get about 2 days from my battery (with plenty longer but i charge it usually after two days). With this mod i am about 40% by the end of the day.

I have seen an improvement in performance.
[G2 General] stefan063:
As of battery usage and depletion! You cannot tell right away from day-two of usage. I have tested It in the beginning and I have 8-10% more battery and off-course no LAG,better performance. As of gaming,well do press your laptop and see what happens! :confused: :cowboy: :cool:
[G2 General] vPro97:
How can higher clock frequencies give more battery life
[G2 General] stefan063:
Faster finishing tasks! Everyday tasks! Opening simple apps and doing every-day regular stuff. But G2 wont always bring higher CPU speed than without mod ON...
[G2 General] jgohil:
So this is still working for some people? Any ideas for getting it to work on T-Mobile G2 with latest OTA?

Already tried the codes posted - including suggestions for excluding * and # as indicated.
[G2 General] BackDaws:
Omg camera lag has completely disappeared ?

Surely lg have enabled this for a reason ? An how come it fixes the camera lag it must take a while for the camera app to cause the g2 to heat up to then throttle the CPU but the lag in low light is always there until you turn off throttling.........I've turned it back on until I find more info on why it's on in the first place :)

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Just remove the first *
[G2 General] jgohil:
Unfortunately that didn't work either.

As I mentioned I tried various combinations as suggested earlier in this thread, but all the same. Invalid MMI.
[G2 General] :
Hi,

Weird, it should work, are you sure you type the correct code like in the OP?

If it still doesn't work, try this:

Go to /system/build.prop with the file explorer and edit the build.prop file by adding this line at the end:

persist.sys.high_temp_off=true

This line appears quickly on the screen in the hidden menu when we turn ON this setting...

Then save, reboot... If you can't edit the build.prop dirctly on your phone (with Root Explorer for example it give an error, the file is too big) try with another file explorer or edit the file on your PC with Notepad++, when you replace the build.prop don't forget to set the correct permissions (rw-r--r--) otherwise you'll end up in a bootloop.

It works for the International version for example, so maybe it will work for other variants.. :confused:

I am not responsible if something goes wrong, make a Nandroid backup first.

:)
[G2 General] mrgoodpaul:
Is there a way to do this on the Verizon variant?
[G2 General] BackDaws:
I was wrong it doesn't fix low light camera lag at all :(
[G2 General] boss336:
How do I do it on Verizon lg g2
[G2 General] :
Hi,

Have you tried the trick I posted above at least???

Just in case you didn't saw it, HERE :rolleyes:

Or try:

5689#*980#

Or:

3845#*980#

:)
[G2 General] ikenvape:
worked beautifully on VZW. Thanks allot! The shutter speed is most noticeable. :thumbup:
[G2 General] wadamean:
The reason why there is lag in low light or night time is very logical and simple. Well to me of course. It's mainly because of the consumption the camera requires to be able to take a clear picture by absorbing the light from the image being taken and focusing on that while the darkness tend to overshadow it. Even when I got my g2 fresh from Verizon the camera still lagged in the dark /night.
[G2 General] cgvelmax:
Is working on lg g2 D805, please add to the op.

3845*#805# is Latin American version

Enviado desde mi LG-D805 mediante Tapatalk
[G2 General] FAFE ANDROID:
lg g2 802 20c

Hello

I did everything you said, but i dont see anywere lag free in the lock screen, were is it?

Thanks
[G2 General] RobinOtten:
Enabled or not, it makes no difference in speed of lockscreen with my G2.

I think it is not the right interpretation of this setting:

persist.sys.high_temp_off -> enabled, means that you disable this function, so you get high temps but no cpu clock lowering.

I noticed that my LG G2 becomes hot when playing games with gps like Ingress

Also, when the cpu gets hot, and throtles down, less performance is normal, it needs to cool down. Lag is inevitable in that case, not?
[G2 General] 2mustange:
When i try putting my code in i get this error "connection problem or invalid mmi code" havn't really found any way to fix it.
[G2 General] 84tdan:
Tried with my rooted D805. It's not a placebo effect, overall the G2 really gets smoother. Camera fires up more quickly for example. But the battery drains also faster, sadly. My wife also bought an G2 so i can compare the two (she has neither root or this mod). Will test it a couple days to see if it's worth to sacrifice battery in exchange of a bit more smoothness in an already fast phone.

I'm impressed with the G2, glad i bought it, best bang for your buck ever. Will never again buy any Samsung crap.
[G2 General] pippideniro:
thanks;)
[G2 General] CooLasFcuK:
How is the battery life?
[G2 General] think pad:
Have just done with LG G2 Korean version 320S.

Try the 3845#*xxx# for your G2 phone. The "xxx" to be repaced by the number under your model number; mine to be 320.

Mine is with stock, no root.
[G2 General] thevinh.btr:
How could I check I mod successful or not???:confused:
[G2 General] erto90:
BTW camera is still slow and lag in low light situation.. how you can say that is fixed??
[G2 General] BackDaws:
No I know it's still the same I just got over excited, I don't think the camera sw is faulty as my HTC camera while faster on screen panning around actually needs the flash in the same situation where lg g2 doesn't and you actually get a clearer cleaner image where as the HTC phone is very dark and noisey, so be happy with the camera because it's awesome
[G2 General] stefan063:
I have played these days with 3 variant of G2! And in about 70% of cases it was the same through the range of different country models! So it will most likely work with your device! I have also figured out that if you restart to soon or to late there will be impact on performance! Why> I cannot give clear answer nor reasonable!!! ?!?!!?

:confused: :good: :laugh:
[G2 General] stefan063:
Well not quite! If it doesn't put CPU clock higher you will also have lag! Right ? :good:
[G2 General] sam298:
I didnt notice any difference. So I used kcontrol app (similar to trickster) and using "performance" cpu governor. I tried setting it to "interactive". But the moment i change it, it reboots without saving the setting. So far performance setting is good along with this thermal mod. Hope it wont affect the battery too much.
[G2 General] Ace42:
Performance governor only uses max frequency, very poor choice...

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] wassk:
Hey guyz...why i suddenly cant enter this hidden menu anymore.?...before i could now if i type that code/number nothing happens?? Thnx...
[G2 General] deathsquad737:
verizon menu

Im running vs98012b ota loki patched with dormnimax power kernel i type the code in this op press dial it makes a call no menu cant i just fix lag from stweaks in kernel and if i can what are the settings sorry im new!
[G2 General] ToucherCD:
This mod drains my battery faster..:confused:
[G2 General] Qverse:
THis Mod has been around for a while . Even out on the internet for a while . For me I have been using it for months. and it does make a differnce, but of course if you a gamer or using Google mail and GPS and Bluetooth. then Yes its get hot. . it tricky to say yes and no , it does what work .. But what does work with it is for the everyday user . it increased the response between screens and programs. Each person would have difference out comes based on their habits of use. It is still a PHONE not a laptop or a PC. It works for me :cool:
[G2 General] gio_punsalan:
Can you still do this even with a custom rom?
[G2 General] sameerm02:
works. thanks !! :good: :good: :laugh:
[G2 General] CrisisCoreO3d:
feels less hot.

i turned in on and my g2 feels less hot when i play games.

but i noticed that when i ran antutu bm i only get FPS max 30-24 min 20 (this is a fresh reboot) and scored 19k, but when i turned this feature back to what it was, after a fresh reboot i got 30k++ again.

turning this feature back to normal again.
[G2 General] cristiano95:
Thanks dude ! works on lg g2 mini also, i wrote 3845#*620# and it worked !!! Thanks alot
[G2 General] stefan063:
Depends which ROM you are using!!!
[G2 General] gio_punsalan:
If Im using optimusG3?
[G2 General] stefan063:
Yes you can... Just dont know if it is in system as D802 or D855 because of ROM. Try 3845#*802# if that doesnt work try then 3845#*855# ... I have sold my G2 yesterday so I will not be able to test no more :(
[G2 General] gio_punsalan:
Thank you! Will it work for aosp roms also?
[G2 General] stefan063:
I don't see reason why it shouldn't... :good:
[G2 General] jameslfc5:
The LG G2 BEAST, never lagged!

Miss that beast
[G2 General] mingocr83:
Turning that feature on, you will cap the performance of the phone on 802 and 855, the CPU idle is higher which decreases battery life...
[G2 General] Ghost401:
where?

Sorry about the stupid noob Question but Im new to LG, Where exactly do I input these numbers?

Thanks I couldn't find the info.
[G2 General] 60nine:
open dialer

type 3845#*80X#

where X depends on your model number (ie. 1 for d801, 2 for d802, etc...)

i have d802 model and my combination is 3845#*802#
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
dialer
[G2 General] Ghost401:
Thanks bro, I tried it but I guess it doesn't work for Verizon V985
[G2 General] NexusWarrior:
Was reading the G3 thread and came hear to see this.. Yes, it CAN harm your phone. You are turning off the throttling system. When the switch is set to "off," the phone will throttle. When it's switched to "on," you disable the throttling service. Read what I posted in the G3 thread you created as well. I'm sure everyone hasn't had any issues so far from what I can, but please know what you are posting before replying with false information. This can effectively overheat the phone, thus shorting the SoC and rendering it as a brick, or hurting someone.
[G2 General] stefan063:
:p No. Once again THIS CANNOT HARM YOUR PHONE AT ALL,these are factory settings,also do not change nothing else you do not understand what are you doing!!! If you look this way,tell me what is less more dangerous,changing G3 software which every other user changes it or try to help you to have G2/3 LAG free??? Think little... Also,I have tested almost 90% of these hidden features and didn't had ANY PROBLEM at all...
[G2 General] NexusWarrior:
Are you dumb or just completely ignorant? Have you been reading anything I said in the G3 thread? You are DISABLING thermal throttling which can overheat the phone. I am NOT saying this will cause a problem, I'm just saying for those people who don't know what they are doing, this option should not be changed.

I know exactly what I'm doing, which is why I'm trying to help out while you spread false information.
[G2 General] stefan063:
DO NOT INSULT ME!!! You can be banned for insults!!! This is developer menu! One thing... Google it what this option means!!! And then come back and write stupid things. Also I told not to change anything else if you don't know what are you doing. And no one said it had problems!!!