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[Nexus 5 General] NoobieUser:
The 2300mAh battery is too little, so the LG G2 is a good choice but the UI is terrible. Hopefully LG G2 will get AOSP :)
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
the lg g2 is the size of a brick so no
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
Have you held the G2 in hand ? Is smaller in hand than the HTC One, being both thinner and lighter, but with a much larger screen 5.2" over 4.7"

The G2 compared next to my Nexus 4 hand in hand at the ATT store, the Nexus 4 looks thicker and feels heavier. I think side by side the Nexus 5 and G2 will be pretty close in size, just the G2 being taller.
[Nexus 5 General] player911:
I'm waiting till December and on Verizon but I think the G2 is my only option. The Note 3 is nice but too big. I'm waiting till December to see how development is going on it. Seeing the G2 release on every carrier world wide and having amazing specs, I'd assume development would be crazy on it.

I just fear LG because they abandon their platforms rather quickly and painfully. If N5 ROMs are able to be ported over quickly and the G2 gets official support from CM and AOKP, then I'll bite.

Else I'll just baby my Galaxy Nexus, that is running great still on 4.3 AOKP.
[Nexus 5 General] Fille84:
Bull**** . Its the same size as every other highend smartphones dude.
[Nexus 5 General] F4M0U569:
The g2 is bigger than the htc one
[Nexus 5 General] Fille84:
+1mm or something like that...for me thats pretty much the "same size". But sure if you consider samsung galaxy s4, s3, htc one and so on bricks aswell then yes the lg g2 is also a brick.
[Nexus 5 General] v3n3:
Why should a 2.300mAh Battery stop anyone from buying a Nexus 5 ?

The Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300 only has 2.100mAh, also with a Quad-Core. The Screen is a little smaller, but Super AMOLED.

2.3000mAh should be enough, I get 24+ Hours from my Nexus 4 and Im pretty confident that the Nexus 5 will achieve the same numbers ;)
[Nexus 5 General] player911:
Yea I'm not concerned with battery. I have a 2100mAh on my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. A good kernel/rom combo is night and day. AOKP seems to yield good battery.

Being on Verizon I think I'll be stuck with the G2, which offers everything I wanted in an upgrade, including Wireless Charging. I just hope dev is good.

But wireless charging is so nice for work. Just have a pad on your desk and it becomes a dedicated phone area that charges. Pick up and go.
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
LG G2

- 138.5 x 70.9 x 8.9 mm x 143 g

HTC One

- 137.4 x 68.2 x 9.3 mm x 143 g

These two phones are pretty darn close to each other in overall size. But keep in mind the G2 has a 5.2" screen, and the One only a 4.7" screen, that's a pretty good screen size difference, but the overall size of both phones, being nearly identical, minus a mm or so.
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
You get 24+ Hours. Ok, but everyone uses their phones differently. Guarantee you, you're 24 hours of use, and mine differ greatly.

Three of my coworkers have that version of the Galaxy S3, and my coworkers use their phone very similar to my use; meaning all workday long for business, tons of phone calls, GPS / Navigation use, tons of texts, e-mails all day, surf the web a bit. None of them, not one of the three, can go into the evening with the phone, They unplug off the charger first thing in the morning, fully charged at 6:00am, and say by around 5:00pm / 6:00pm, the battery is in the red near dead. They lucky to get 12 hours maybe 14 hours total.

My Nexus 4 was even worse, on an average workday, I am dead around 10 - 12 hours later, with 4h On Screen time.

Only phone to last for me, was the Note 2, that beast could go all day long without a sweat with my heavy workday use, but it's too large for my tastes.

Also other clients in my industry who rely on their phone during the workday, tell me the only phone that lasts for them, is the Motorola MAXX line.

Bottom line, power workday users like us, need a phone with a 3,000mAh or larger battery.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
still..the g2 felt like a brick in my hand..cheap quality just like samsungs the only good thing about the phone is the camera..if i wanted a phone that big i would have gotten myself a tablet
[Nexus 5 General] peteus:
You are quite right. I can tinker with Gnex/N4 testing new kernels and roms for days and maybe get 10% more or less battery life. Point is if I am to take a flight and then rent a car and use phone to navigate for few hours, N5 will be depleted before I get to where I am heading to. Period.

LG G2 is the best phone available on the market. It is unbelievable they managed to build large screen, battery and best SOC in such small footprint. People should go to nearby BestBuy and compare it with SGS4 and other phones, or just go to GSMarena and stuck units one over another to see the difference (I see many here think LG G2 is much bigger comparing to N4 and alike). However, I dislike non stock user experience and depending on cm or pa, thus it's $600 without contract where N5 will be around $400. The question here is if $200 is worth paying for .2 larger screen and 700mAh and have to deal with LG's OS customization or unexpected issues with customized roms/kernels?
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Adjust your 'taste' to a larger cell to match your use. It's idiomatic. G2 or N3 will do.
[Nexus 5 General] yulet:
Doesn't Galaxy S3 have a 720p screen while Nexus 5's is/will be 1080p? That is a battery drainer. The screen is draining my Note 3's 3200mAh battery like there's no tomorrow lol

Sent from my SM-N900W8

---------- Post added at 01:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:43 PM ----------

It's like what Apple said when people had reception issues with their iPhone's: You're holding the phone wrong! LOL yeah us, customers should change our way, not those manufacturers who want our money.

Sent from my SM-N900W8
[Nexus 5 General] sblantipodi:
it will stop me because with a normal usage this battery will last until afternoon.

what about the evening and the night?
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
But whining in some thread won't change reality.. you can easily solve the issue ( I use power banks) or choose a more appropriate device.
[Nexus 5 General] yulet:
With a power hungry 1080p screen I don't think it'll even last until afternoon.. but you're supposed to be sleeping at night and your phone should be charging, no?

Sent from my SM-N900W8
[Nexus 5 General] sblantipodi:
not all the night :cowboy:
[Nexus 5 General] yulet:
I already have a Note 3 and a 6600mAh portable charger. This thread is about the battery, so this is where people should be discussing/whining about the battery. I'll not buy the Nexus 5 if it has 2300mAh battery.

Sent from my SM-N900W8
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
And I will.
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
Wrapping my thread up, I guess I will never see that Nexus dream phone of mine, oh well.

I just want a Motorola MAXX type phone, with that dreamy 3,500mAh battery, running stock Android, updated directly by Google, a 4.8" 1080p screen, GSM network, and having ATT + T-Mobile LTE and HSPA+ bands, plus keeping the thinness and lightweight factor in check.

I wish Motorola sold the new Droid Ultra MAXX, unlocked to use on GSM network, and could be easily rooted with CM10.2 ROM, does that even exist ?

The size of the Moto MAXX is right there with other phones, but offers that amazingly large 3,500mAh battery over 50% larger then the Nexus5's, and the Moto MAXX still being a thinner phone too.

Motorola DROID Maxx - 137.5 x 71.2 x 8.5 mm - 167 g - Li-Ion 3500 mAh battery

Nexus 5 - 131.9 x 68.2 x - 8.6 mm - 139 g - 2300 mAh battery
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
The One Max might be too large but it looks sweet..especially if it comes as a Google Edition.

Edit: and I gotta say I've admired HTC build quality overall beginning with the Nexus One.
[Nexus 5 General] ricecake2000:
Did anyone else see the flip case for the one max? Adds 1100 mah of battery. That would certainly fix everything and it looks nice as well. And lg does like to copy :D
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
The thing is that, with nexus 5 size and thickness, they could have put in bigger battery easily. this probably rub the wrong way with a lot of people. Considering nexus line in the past always have just ACCEPTABLE, never great, screen on time.

Nexus users know that with Google subsidies, Nexus phones alway compromises on something and we accept that since Dev support is next to none.

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] player911:
I typically don't have a problem fast charging my phone on the way home but agree that different styles of usage differ from person to person. That's the same thing as saying, with the cell radio turned off and 0 screen usage it will last 3 days.

Non-removable battery IS a problem for me. Sometimes a device locks up and just requires a hard disconnect. I've had a couple weird problems that were persistent across reboots that required a hard battery pull. So a non-removable battery is a bigger deal to me more then a smaller battery.

Plus if the battery was removable then those people who need more can do so with battery packs. I have a battery booster charger thing that I do travel with in case of emergencies but to expect someone to carry one with them every day is absurd.

We'll just have to see. From the looks of the leaks, it is very possible they included a removable battery this time since it was a major pain on the N4.
[Nexus 5 General] xda23:
How good are these backup, external power bank chargers for phones. Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] Jimlarck:
Most devices with internal batteries can be shut off by holding the power button for a long time.

Kind of like computers when they freeze up, you can still shut it down by pressing and holding the power button. So that's not really a big issue to me.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
I prefer the Newtrent high capacity ones myself but there is no reason these examples shouldn't work just fine...they're all much the same, and throwaway cheap.
[Nexus 5 General] phositadc:
Where did you get the 8.6 mm figure?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 5 General] player911:
I think most can, but I've still had issues be persistent across a hard shut down and power up.

1 example is my Galaxy Nexus. Works like a champ and then completely randomly like once every 3 weeks will just freak out. Last time I was in the middle of a call. Had about 75% battery. Phone just rebooted. Upon powering up it would instantly shut down like power is dead. Plug it in and boot up. Powers on but stays at 0% and won't charge. I've left it plugged in for like 30 min once then unplugged and it would die. While in this weird mode, my dialer FCs. I can reboot and hard shut down all day long. It stays in this mode until I pull the battery.

Very frustrating but extremely rare. I've seen similar crap like this across all my android devices. My LG G2 would require a battery pull all the time.

So a non-removable battery is an instakill.
[Nexus 5 General] gentleman559:
My HTC One is currently at 10 hours and has 39% left. I have never had a problem with battery on this phone period and Im not on 2G Im on LTE all day long.
[Nexus 5 General] messerchmidt:
a big battery from zero-lemon or Hyperion will come out to address the issue. bigger would be better
[Nexus 5 General] abalosmusic:
So if the g2 is a brick then what about the note 3? A boulder?
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
a damn block
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
Well 16h (form 7am to 11pm) with I guess 2.5-3h screen on is not great to me.

I personally consider it average.

All of us have different needs.

Larry Page at the beginning of the year said that the focus would have been battery life (a full day for power users) and device durability.

Unless they are implementing a "mirasol like" display tech, a 5 inch FHD ISP display will make the N5 battery life AVERAGE for haevy users. Period.
[Nexus 5 General] NIK516:
I'll wait for reviews on battery life
[Nexus 5 General] :
Lower Resolution to increase battery life

Android has the capability to modify the output resolution of the screen. I'm not talking about messing with DPI here: the actual resolution the GPU puts out to the display.

Check out this app called Xscaler. I Don't see how an app like xscaler can't be used to output at 720p instead and increase battery life..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2424705

A PPI of around 300 is perfect. A 720p screen on a 4.96 inch screen comes out to 296 PPI. An IPhone retina display has a PPI of 300 and we all know those look sharp.

296 PPI on a Nexus 5 will looks extremely crisp because the 720p resolution will interpolate across the 1080 screen giving it sort of a antialising effect. Most people shouldn't be able to tell a difference in image quality in the end.

But they will see a difference in battery life
[Nexus 5 General] MrThreeChains:
Very interesting ... never heard of it before. I also dont need 1080p. Sure i never had a phone with Full HD resolution,but even my qHD One S looks great. Could be a bit more, but 720p is sufficient for me i think. And 960×540 vs 1280×720 is a big difference anyways.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
Just seen the voltage table for the s800, by underclocking it with stock voltages to 1.5ghz I'd expect 20-25% extra battery life than the HTC One, but with further underclocking and kernel optimisations I'd expect much better efficiency
[Nexus 5 General] shadowcore:
Of course it will stop me. I would not be getting a device with only 2300 mAh with a non removable battery, at least not one that should last more than 2 years.

Oh and OP, get a feature phone if you want to phone over long periods of time, highend smartphones are overkill for tasks such as phoning, texting and so on and they are more likely to get stolen.
[Nexus 5 General] nirmalbalaji:
Sure it won't stop people from buying Nexus 5. According to recent tests and reports Android 4.4 is pretty much lightest version of recent Android releases. May due to that and system wide optimizations Nexus 5 doesn't requires a huge battery.

I actually don't like the concept of having two Nexus 5. One with 2300 mAh and another one with 3000 mAh battery.
[Nexus 5 General] Kindatired:
I get around since five hours screen on time with regular use and four hours with light gaming. I don't make a lot of calls though which is a pretty massive battery drain.

If the nexus 5 can give me the same battery life I will be happy.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
But it's the high end phones which pack the biggest batteries lol
[Nexus 5 General] ajftl:
Nothing won't stop me.
[Nexus 5 General] neugenusis:
OP,... if that's the case, the N5 will be my backup / free tethering phone. Probably will get a carrier tainted LG G2 as my primary. 30 percent more battery is too big of a difference to me

If 4.4 really does improve the battery on the N5, then surely it will improve the battery on the LG G2 when it gets it, however long it takes. But, I think we are setting our expectations of 4.4 too high.
[Nexus 5 General] caaznkid:
I can usually get around 5 hours on screen time with the nexus 4 and last the whole day with some battery left. If the nexus 5 can do better by an hour or two on screen time and also has better camera I think it would be worth it. Nexus 4 camera is a joke -.-
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
I hope the battery is 2300 so people will be weeded out from the release date rush, better for those who could care less about the battery size:p
[Nexus 5 General] caaznkid:
lol i like to think us android folk are a little more educated when it comes to technology but..we're starting to sound like apple fanboys "This phone is the best and I'm buying it no matter what!" :eek:
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
200mAh more to deal with:

- Bigger screen size

- Twice pixels to push

..............
[Nexus 5 General] Ascertion:
Bear in mind, there's also software optimizations that assist with battery so I'm guessing it'll be about even to the Nexus 4, or maybe even a bit better.

The iPhone 5 had a 1440mAh battery and it lasted pretty long (or so I hear, never had one myself.)
[Nexus 5 General] shadowcore:
Yep, instead of waiting for the G2 to have an unlocked bootloader with 3000 mAh battery and a custom rom. I think 2300 mAh is too little for a full HD phone, I do find that sad because it will affect on screen time.
[Nexus 5 General] neugenusis:
iOS is a totally different platform and the iPhone 5 has only a 4" non-HD to take care of. The iP5s has a larger battery than the iP5 and a new update to iOS7 but no significant difference in battery life between them. Me thinks squeezing out battery life by just an update instead of an overhaul is easier said than done.
[Nexus 5 General] ODAWGY:
Nexus 5

Im defo getting one of these babys :D:D:D
[Nexus 5 General] CptChaosNL:
Capacity of battery doesn't matter that much to me. If it has a small capacity in terms of nowadays, I'd rather see that as a challenge!

I like my phone to have a usage which is as low as I can possibly get it to... :)
[Nexus 5 General] MightySashiman:
A 2300MAh battery will be a complete no-go for me.

At least, with my galaxy nexus and it's lame but removable battery, I was able to cope a full long day with a spare battery. Easy to bring along in a wallet. I don't want to go through the hassle of having to find a plug or USB port to charge the damn device allday everyday.

I am planning on using my device, really using it, mainly for mobile Internet, google maps, gaming, video, downloading... while MOVING AROUND. When I'm next to a plug or a computer, I'm usually using that very computer.

If the nexus 5 is 2300MAh, then Google is indeed getting back to the essence of NEXUS : a dev phone to debug apps, for programmers sitting at a desk with their device plugged in. The battery should be OK for a whole day if you have full power free wifi or mobile network available everywhere you go. Google needs to realize not everyone lives on its Googleplex hightech campus... (applies also to the cloud storage bull**** excuse to justify the lack of flash storage space & microsd slot)
[Nexus 5 General] toanau:
I am praying that the phone come with 3000mah. I sold my N4 for that main reason. If the N5 has 2300mah I'll stick with GPE S4. I get around a whole day of heavy useage without a recharge.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demzzy:
anyone here with a BT modem in the uk having problems with their note 3?

ive been having problems with my wifi on my note 3.. and i put in a request for a new one.. today i was using a hotspot however and it was working fine.. when i got back home and connected to my BT modem it was having issues.. where it would drop the connection constantly.. im wondering if its my phone or the modem.. tried resetting the modem but its the same thing.. disabled every option on the phones wifi options.. same issue..
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rdsreference:
Mine is exactly the same thought it was me ill try getting a replacement. Was convinced it was my broadband. Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demzzy:
Meanwhile my s4 connects just fine n is solid..no drops
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] mykevin81:
So I had my tablet unlocked with twrp 2.4.4.1

I wanted to uptdate so I wipe the system and install OTA downloaded from asus website and flash it through SD card using TWRP

but I found out that my recovery partition had become stock recovery already

My question is.

With everything stock, can I just flash the recovery partition by doing the procedure below:

1. Go to bootloader

2. Fastboot option

3. on computer type in "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

Will this brick my tablet or destroy recovery that I never will able to update?

Im a person who feels safe with TWRP recovery so i can at least do something when something goes wrong.

Thanks
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
Please see pic below...

Do I need to unlock the bootloader before I can flash this fix for the barclays banking app?.

I'm already rooted

Thanks :)
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
Pic, sorry forgot to add to first post! :-/
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
As far as I know there is no way to install a recovery without unlocking the Bootloader and you will need CWM or TWRP to install this fix.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
I have twrp installed would it hurt if I tried installing the zip?
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
How did you install TWRP if your phone is not unlocked?

If you have a working recovery it would not hurt to install the fix, as it seems to be the only installation method ;)

Of course I can not garuantee for anything.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
Because you do not need to unlock to install recovery....

Just flash the zip in either cmw or twrp recovery

Or just extract the build.prop from the zip and push it manually.

But to be honest, why does barclays need a build.prop tweak to work. I wouldn't trust my bank in this case
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
I know is slightly OT, but how would I do that? I thought you would have to flash some custom kernel to get a working recovery. The dual recovery for locked BL is still work in progress isn't it?

Thanks in advance!
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
It works fine for 40 seconds then reboots. That's more than enough to flash a small zip like that. It just is not write long enough for a backup or restore.

Also you do not flash a partition for recovery as Sony devices do not have a recovery partition. Recovery on Sony devices hijacks the chargemon file to boot up into it.

I am not 100% sure about all the technicalities so don't shoot me if I am wrong on that, but the recovery for locked bootloaders will work for small flashes.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
Sadly the barclays banking app doesn't work on a rooted phone, and this is a fix for it to work.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
Are you sure? What part of rooting affects the build.prop? None that I am aware of.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
Definitely, when I try to log into the app I get a in app message saying the barclays banking app is not supported on rooted devices. And then it just quits
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
I've got my Z1 rooted, but how do I install a custom recovery to it!?... I thought I had already, but haven't
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficerTux:
Only way with a locked Bootloader is described here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2455959

But it is still in development and I would not advise it if you're not 100% sure what you're doing.

You could also unlock your phone and flash the Advanced Stock, Doom or any other kernel containing a recovery, but you will loose your Sony DRM Keys (Camera, X-Reality,...). They can be backed up (Backup TA partition) and restored, but the procedure is not that easy either.

Is this banking app really that important?
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gibbo82:
It's convenient for me to have it, but suppose I could always use the mobile Web version

I shall wait until there's a fix for the unlock bootloader, not worth losing your camera for
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gregbradley:
I understand that bit, but rooting does not affect the build.prop, so why would modding it let the app think your phone is not rooted? Please can you send me a link to the thread you posted a picture of so I can look inside the zip and see what it is trying to do
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fma965:
bumping this thread as it's related to my post since that's my Cwm zip in op, barclays checks the build prop for the debug keys and if it's successful says Device is rooted, barclays latest versions have much more advanced detection methods
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Anthrax79:
Now that we have S-Off, I have been going over the ROMS that are showing up. I need to know if anyone can point me at a ROM where the Ringtone/Notification sounds have been unlinked. I cannot stand the fact that they are tied together.

Thanks
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jski711:
+1 I am surprised nobody including myself has brought that up yet. It would be fantastic!!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Chilidog:
I just realized that they are together and it's really annoying....