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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] alyg:
Thanks.

I've downloaded the files but haven't got the guts to install it yet. If it doesn't work, is it as easy to uninstall the program without screwing up anything?

I've a QTEK 9100.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Alex310:
Uninstalling it is easy just remove programs, but as I am finding out setting it up once it is installed is being a challenge. Especially when your local T-Mobile BB tech support people are clueless as to how I got this on my device. The lady just broke down and told me to call RIM directly.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] guru1982:
I was able to install the bb connect on my MDA. But doesn't look like it will be able to work in the US because APN and IP settings are defined by the program, and I couldn't find a way to change the settings with the proper one, funny part was I got a message saying your device has been registered with the network, but after that it disconnected and wouldn't connect again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] alyg:
I installed it and there was an error msg but I click ok and it was technically installed. I can see it in the remove program. However, I can't find the button to click to configure.

Anyone can help?

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QTEK 9100
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
This looks quite crucial to me as I will be using BB via the Vodafone (NL) network and they for sure wont know the T-Mobile (D) APN and IP numbers.

This should also indicate that everyone on 'a' T-mobile network can use this client (assumed that all T-mobile apn's give access to each other's networks wich is reasonable because of normal roaming facilities)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ojan:
Hi guys,

In order to get a proper APN and IP, make sure that:

1- You select "Blackberry solutions" and not "Instant Email with BlackBerry"

2- You use the client software to sync everything.

This was the way it worked on BlueAngel

Hope this help ( I don t have a BB Subscription at the moment)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
Start BBsettings.exe in \windows. Seems that it will only get visible in menu's once you have completed that one and I havent because I do not have a BB subscription at the moment.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonyb15re:
I have it installed on my Universal, I also have a subscription through Vodafone... It will not connect and set the PIN/obtain an IP address, I beleive it is reliant on RIM allocating this based upon the IMEI of the phone, if the phone wasnt provided with a BBConnect subscription assigned theres a good chance it wont work allegedly
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
We have a BES and I have a very special Cingular SIM with Blackberry services that I routinely swap between different BB devices to test functionality. Therefore, I should be able to test this software by popping that SIM into my 8125. One question first tho: Is the software Locale aware? IOW will it install an English version onto my desktop? I'm just asking because the installer fired up in German.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jurnaza:
Sleuth255,

Please let us know if you are able to install this software on your Cingular 8125. I receive an error and have been unable to install it on the default Cingular ROM.

J
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
I'm using the Qtek AKU2 Rom in my 8125 currently so I don't think I can be much help... Sorry.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jurnaza:
Sleuth255,

Does it install on the AKU2 ROM? I am trying to determine if it is the Cingular ROM that is causing the problem or the 8125....

Thanks,

J
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
It installs fine on the QTEk 1.6.7.1 ROM though that doesn't mean I have actually got it configured anw working yet....!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
software is locale aware. I installed on my wwe aku2 rom (qtek test) and on the wizard it is all english fortunately.

would very much like to know if it works with bb service on a non t-mobile sim/network.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jurnaza:
Just to confirm with everyone this software will not install on a Cingular 8125 with both the Cingular default ROM & the iMate AKU2 ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
On Qtek 2.17 AKU2.0 rom, I get "Unable to install. Uncertified system software detected". Pressing ok gives me the unsuccessfull installation dialog :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
I checked some of the dll's in the cab.

It tests against both os version and hardware. Not sure where it gets the hardware id from, but maybe a T-Mobile Wizard can be distinguished from a Cingular one apart from the rom running on it.

I was able to install on a T-Mobile MDA Vario running WM5 AKU2 (2.8.7.1) Qtek rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] alyg:
I installed it quite successfully except at the end of the installation., there was an error msg stating the installer module can't be loaded, but when I click ok, it says I 've successfully installed it.

I did not get the option to install Blackberry enterprise mail, it just installed the Internet Blackberry mail module. When I clcik on the .exe, it just hangs there.

I've uninstalled everything until someone has been successful in getting it to work on a qtek9100..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Anyone get this working? I am about to run out to buy a Tmobile MDA in the US, so I can use it...this is what I have been waiting for...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
i'm waiting for the bb client to work perfectly myself. once i know it works, i will go ahead & buy the imtae k-jam, instead of the blackberry 8700g.

the only thing is that i just hope that with it tha battery life will be atleast one day full? from morning 8am till night 10pm with GPRS always ON & about 15-20sms's & a few calls.

anyways lets see how that goes....

i once had a o2 mini which my friend game me to install the latest tmobile rom on it. i did & i was surprised to see the blackberry connect software on it. i quickly put in my & registered & it registered. i even received one to 2 mails beofre i had to give it back... but when i used to open the mail it was blank. maybe not configured properly.?? did not have enough time to play around with it.

In India AIRTEL supports blackberry for Nokia 9500/Nokia 9300 & SE P910i only as of now.. could this be the problem??

As far as the PIN being based on the IMEI problem goes, does'nt the SE P910i also do the same? If so, then by the same logic the imake K-jam should also work, if installed properly, dont u think?

Any thoughts?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] guru1982:
Hypermaster, it looks like its little different with the k-jam because with the p910 you were able to adjust the apn and ip settings to get it to work. I have the T-Mobile MDA US with the 2.16.9 rom and everything installed fine, but can't get it to work because apn and ip settings are set by the program. and yes i do hav the BB subscribtion.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
thanks guru, but i have tried it on a P910i & i did no setting for the APN or IP, i just let it pick whatever it did automatically.

I noticed that it picked up the APN as blackberry.net & IP was assigned automatically, i did not assign anything.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] alyg:
it's interesting how difficult the manufacturers and telecomms make it for us to have BB connectivity. I think no one would buy a BB handset anymore if they make it work!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
of course people would.

1. Much Better Battery Life, especially while ur travelling.

2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid

3. BB is the best sync i have seen in any phone so far.

4. Ease of use of a BB, simple & easy to use.

5. Better Security for corporates.

6. PIN Messanging :D

7. I personally love the Track Wheel

I only think that the BB's are tooooooo OVER PRICED. i'm sure lots of people thinnk that too..

Anyways we're moving away from the topic.

I should be getting my O2 MiniS today hopefully & i shall try it then.

It has to work.. does not make sense !!!

What could be the problem?

You have the client.. should work, unless the network can detect the hardware ur running, it should act as the same software like the P910i???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Wiz:
FYI The Vario BB Connect add on also works on Universal type devices. See my post at http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=253656#253656
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Puckster:
I'm not a BB user so i cant be of any help there but as far as battery life goes i have a k-jam (2.16 rom) with bluetooth on (non discoverable mode), gprs always on (using push Exchange mail), and send / recieve several calls & sms's every day.

An average day for me is 8am - 12am and i regularly have 40% - 50% charge remaining when i plug the charger in before i goto bed. I have occassionally gone for two full days without charge as well.

Cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Wiz:
I am not sure if I agree with part of what you're saying in two of your points:

2. BB services on windows can crash due to some other sofwtare problems.. BB handsets are rock solid

I have been using the BB Connect client on my Vario, my XDA IIs and my XDA Exec. On all of them the service has proved to be rock-stable.

5. Better Security for corporates.

Anything that communicates wirelessly should be considered a risk, BB and WM devices alike.

In addition to that, my WM devices still beat my Blackberry hands down due to the fact that *in addition* to BB functionality, a WM device at least until now lets me edit project plans, spreadsheets, word documents, listen to the radio, play MP3 etc. BB are still playing catch up there. For me, the trade-offs versus benefits still make me choose WM devices I'm afraid.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wawibu:
No connect after Power Off

I have a problem with the BB-Client.

I've installed the client on different ROM-Images and get allways the problem. After the installation of the client I shut down the wizard and power it on again. Then set up the BB-Client and the connection will be establish. So the BB-Client works fine. But when I then shut down and power on the wizard the client wouldn't reconnet.

The service startet with the folloing status:

1.) not connected

2.) network available

3.) data tunnel available

4.) not connected

Any idea?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
I just have to ask as I have been trawling this forum; has anyone actually got BB connect working with a Blackberry Enterprise Server (preferably on tmobile in the USA) using these cab files? If they have I'd really like to know which ROM version they are using. We've tried a number of ROMs and the cab's and it always seems to get to the fully installed but not connected scenario and thats the end of it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] betstu2004:
Installed successfully on i-mate K-Jam with latest ROM and managed to sync once with the desktop. It even managed to connect once to the exchange server and download the corp policy (judging from one of the settings tabs). Note, that it was used with a Blackberry enabled SIM in Canada. However, after a brief success (no emails actually received) the client would go into the "Blocked" status when trying to connect and would not connect to the desktop anymore either. I uninstalled it since then.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Thats exactly my experience. All installs fine on device and desktop, desktop software synchs with device, establishes PIN etc and also forces some of the services to install. However, when you then try and use it over the air it seems to find a data tunnel then drops back to not connected
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
are you guys using Exchange Servers?

i dont have an exchange server & am using blackberry internet account.

Anyone tried using it with this setup?

I am so close to buying it , but only if blackberry works on it.

i know i can use the normal email service till then & set it to fetch my emails every 15mins , but its not teh same & emails being pushed to your phone. I have 8 email account configured on my BB service right now.

I want them all to come into ONE INBOX, rather than multiple ones, which is a headache to keep checking.

On this note... once u have DIRECT PUSH or Blackberry configured onto the Wizard, does all ur mails come into one INBOX , which is same as SMS or a seperate folder? Can anyone let me know on this. I hate working on multiple folders.

Thats another reason for users to use Blackberry Handsets
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wawibu:
I have the same problem. Is anyone here, who has no connection problems with the bb-client? And when, which rom-image are installed on the MDA?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pencilcase:
I am trying to install this on an MdaVario (german) but with newest official QTEK rom since I have found this to be the most reliable untill now. I am getting an error each time stating: "Unexpected error. Unable to load installer module" ... is anyone able to extract the cab for me so I could try that? or does anyone have any solutions? I really want to try this since my Company uses Blackberry ....

update: it continues installing but i get the error again after it has installed ....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Can't help you with the files but I can tell you I installed it on the latest official QTEK ROM (186504-ruu_9100_2170702_21707102_20710_qtek_wwe_ship) from the ftp here and it installed with no problems - other than the inability connect as above many posts.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cychiam:
I used BB Connect on XDA2 in the past and now BB on XDA2i. I am also using BB on 8700g.

And I agree with hyper for most of his points, from my personal experience.

With BB on my XDA2i, it

1. sucks up lots of battery life

2. address lookup is so slow.

3. affects the stability of other PPC programs e.g. notification icon, cannot turn on my built-in WIFI at times.

4. slows down the performance of my XDA2i... esp bootup.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jazzdude:
I called T-Mobile USA today because I couldn't get this working either. They transferred me to RIM which I simply gave my Blackberry Pin and IEMI number and they put me on hold for a long time and came back saying that they cannot support the device through T-Mobile USA as they did not pay for this support. The RIM person even knew it was Backberry Connect on an HTC Wizard without my telling him. He also told me that I would have to go to another carrier who supported the device but could not tell me who supported the device. My estimation is that T-Mobile Germany is the only operator with the license permissions to support the Blackberry Connect on the HTC Wizard at this time. It is Rim's backend servers rejecting the Pins from this software.

I hope that this info helps.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
i just did the same in Mumbai, India with Airtel.called them & they said that we only support RIM handsets & Nokia 9500/9300 & SE P910i. They said they dont support O2/Imate/Qtek phone as yet.

I just told them that a friend was using an O2 XDA IIs & it was working on it to see their response, but they said it might work on occasions, but we dont support it.

This actually means that they can block or give permission to certain types of PIN's.

This also means that an IMEI based PIN has certain characteristics that differtiate from others & the IMEI based PIN generated by SE P910i is based on a different algorithm / calculation than O2 phone.

Now if this can be changed somehow, maybe it can work as flawlessly as in the P910i.

Any comments??

Basically this means till the operator does not support BB on WM05 based phones, you can do nothing. :cry:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
This seems to be the issue with the software, PIn numbers generated need to be in a range that is acceptable to the blackberry site registering the device http://www.modaco.com/lofiversion/index.php/t232035.html why god only knows other than to ensure they can just release the software on a regional basis. It can't be this stupid can it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hdubli:
I was able to run BB on BA on 2003SE a year back...with a accesspoint change hack..on AirTel..The thing is that..Airtel people do not know a single thing about PPCs.....thay only know about Nokia and other stuff.,..that is why there is a delay or problem...But u can always use Push mail with MSFP.....much cheaper than BB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
Hey hdubli..... What MSFP????

I'm thinking of using a 3rd party push email service like from www.4smartphone.com.

BTW i've heard that the SonyEricsson W900i also has a Push Email Client?

Anyone know anything about it?

So many new push email phones coming? What to choose from?

I really think that blackberry is going to loose ground.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rwu:
BB Connect works

I have the O2 Mini S running on the T-Mobile Vario UK official ROM works with the latest released T-Mobile UK BB Client Add-On, here in Singapore.

Here is what I think after using BB Coeect on BA, P910, Nokia 9300 and several Blackberry device

1. The BB client add-on only works with the same carrier's ROM. I tried BA on the I-Mate Rom with the T-Mo MDA III BB client add-on but it didn't work, back in U.S.. Lately I tried the Mini S with the Qtrk test Rom here in Singapore with the new BB Client from T-Mo germany, but that didn't work either. Then I flashed the T-Mo UK rom and installed the client, it worked flawlessly, rock solid. The BA with the O2 IIs rom(built in BB client) also worked flawlessly here.

2. It should work in a country where BB client is not even supported by any carrier. I know the IIi with BB client works in the US

3. Somebody mentioned radio version, I don't think that is the issue

Guys, if BB is a must, go to the slower T-Mo UK vario ROM. Let me know if it doesn't work. IMEI and carrier shouldn't be issue, since I am on O2 device/T-Mo UK rom/T-Mo Ger BB add-on combo
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Robster:
My IT group tell me that there is a new Vodafone phone due out shortly called the VPA 1640.

By the description this is the HTC Universal WM5 device.

The interesting this is it comes with BLACKBERRY SUPPORT BUILT IN!!!!!!!

Anyone else heard about this or can confirm?

I am told that in our business account profile this phone is 'coming soon'?

Robin
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
RWU, I haven't seen a TMO UK BB Connect add on for the Vario the only one around here seems to be the German. Can you post it to this site for people to try or give us a link to the download?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hdubli:
Hi...

MSFP means Microsoft Security Feature Pack...mainly used for Push mail and Remote Device wipe off.To enable this one would need Exchange Server 2003 with Service Pack 2.

I do not understand why one needs a push mail when there are 3rd party softs which checks mail or synchronise with server on a given schedule say ecery 5/10/15/20 mins...I believe that this is sufficient as far as mail is concerned...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonyb15re:
Most organisations are security concious and will therefore not allow users to set a PDA to automatically pull mail from it, they will not expose POP mail access either, hence PUSH MAIL. I've had countless discussions with our IS department about having push mail using MS but they wont entertain it, BB is the corporate solution so the device I use must support it, This worked very well on the BlueAngel which I got rid of due to its crap Bluetooth stack, I now have an exec with no BB, am eagerly awaiting the O2 Rom update, if Tmob can issue a UNIVERSAL update with it then Im sure O2 can too.... :roll:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
I'm trying to follow all of this back and forth but I'm just going to ask outright since it's not very clear to me. I have a Cingular 8125 which I use on the Cingular network, however I do have a T-Mobile account I can use too. Using either Cingular or T-Mobile, is there a rom I can download and place on my 8125 so I can use the Blackberry Connect software in the USA?

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Kelkin, would wish it was that simple (and it should be). I have tried the USA TMo Ship ROM and a couple of QTEK ROM's to no avail with the BB Connect Client. There is a post a few up from this one that says someone got it working with the TMo UK Ship ROM and a TMo UK BB Client but I have not seen a TMo UK BB Client anywhere so hopefully they'll enlighten us...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Revor:
I'm using the AKU2 software, and after installing I also got an error. problem is that it doesn't work if you install it on the storage card. Just install in on the deveice and then it'll work
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
He did not say there is a UK BB client:

"since I am on O2 device/T-Mo UK rom/T-Mo Ger BB add-on combo"

iow: Use a T-Mobile ROM and a T-Mobile BB Client should do the trick.

I hope he is wrong: getting myself a BB sunscription on T-Mobile MDA Vario, QTek AKU2 rom, T-Mobile BB client, on Vodafone network. . . . .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
"I have the O2 Mini S running on the T-Mobile Vario UK official ROM works with the latest released T-Mobile UK BB Client Add-On, here in Singapore"

Is what he said - hopefully he can clarify as I'm not inclined to blow it with the TMo UK ROM on the off chance it works.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
So has anyone gotten this to work in the US?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rwu:
It's the German BB Client

JoninLA, I typed that wrong. It is the Germany T-Mo BB Client. But when you install it on the UK T-Mo rom it automatically detects the language and installs the software in English
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Thanks RWU, at least there is someone who has got it working. Now I need to find a way to get the UK ROM onto my QTEK, it won't let me load it as it's not a TMo device.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rwu:
Unlock your device first

JoninLA, you need to unlock your device first. refer to the thread in the wiki for programs that does that
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Device is unlocked already and I've done several ROM updates previously - odd
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
So based on what you said, does that mean in theory if I install the UK rom onto my Cingular 8125, I should be able to install the BB connect sw and use it in the US?

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
just got my o2 miniS. this had the o2 1.20 rom on it & i installed the tmobile BB client. It did not even install...showed an error...

i then installed the tmobile 2.17.7.2 wwe with radio 02.07.10... it now installed properly & its automatically assigned to the left soft key.

i open the BB settings & go to the STATUS tab..& clcik on restart...it starts connecting & says "DATA TUNNEL AVAILABLE" &then shows NOT CONNECTED.

while its restarting..it showsan IP of 10.--.--.-- for a little while on the Identy tab. but when i go to the OPTIONS tab, under Connection, i have selected Blackberry Solution & when i click on the details..it showsAPN as blackberry.net (which is correct), unsername : rim , & password password & IP: 206.51.26.189 & ports:19781 & 19780.

i think theres a conflict with the IP address...??

Is it possible to change the IP for auto config?

I cant understand what the problem...

ALSO when i go to airtel.blackberry.com to change my PIN & IMEI to this handheld... it say

"The PIN and IMEI provided could not be properly identified. Please re-enter your PIN and IMEI and try again. If this problem persists, contact Airtel at 7070."

How can i solve this??

any idea?