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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
Do you technically need to flash the modem? I have keep to stock modem on the DE and flashed beans and sbreens roms. My data connections are excellent and I am a quite afraid to use the other modems.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
Good question. I know that you can flash different modems but don't know how that would work on a mje build and kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
No you do not need to.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kgbrown247:
Ordered mine friday. All I have received was confirmation email.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hobbit19:
I have a few ideas how to flash

* insecure bootloader

but I need a dump loaders dev version for testing
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
You might try Heimdall. It does the same thing as Odin, but will run on OSX. Link here > http://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
I couldnt

I had the same issue when i got my MBA about two years ago. I tried , with this phone Heimdall and i couldnt get it to work. It couldnt extract the Pit file it needs. People on forums advised to never use a published pit for heimdall even thought beans stated pit never really changes. I couldnt dare to risk a Dev phone, so i didnt pursue heimdall with a published pit

Mobile odin has not been updated to support verizon edition , because the app developer doesn't know version has an unlocked bootloader edition yet. I think it supports international and tmobile verzion only. You can try to change your build.prop to force it beyond the initial check, i still wouldn't suggest it.

What i did, two years ago that saved my behind, bootcamp. Works flawlessly, but i did lose about 30 gigs on a 128 gig drive. But I use so much cloud, its never really an issue.

For that you have to have enough system memory and a copy of windows .

Mac is very android ( samsung TBS ) unfriendly. I still cant get any of my samsungs ( tab , gs3 , gnote 3 ) to be recognized as drives, even with android file transfer. The only way i can get files across is Airdroid or by physically inserting the SD card from my phone in my laptop.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Is the Developer edition automatically unlocked? I have a SIM from Scotland I plan on using.

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I popped in my Orange Scotland SIM and powered my phone. Even with mobile data & Wifi off, I started receiving new email notifications.

...I'm praying Verizon doesn't charge me out the a...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
I've never actually done boot camp but I'm really tempted now. Do you recommend to install Windows 8 or an older version of Windows? Idk how Android friendly Windows 8 is why I ask this

Sent from my Dev Edition Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
That's great and all, but what does your MBA have to do with anything? :D

I joke I joke, I kid I kid... :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
Windows 7 ..honestly not all the driver issues have been ironed out yet with Mac I think in windows 8 . Windows 7 is super stable and you don't need the latest and the greatest . You need something that does the job IMHO. I recommend at least a 30 gb partition . Windows partitions tend to self expand with all the updates .
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
I am on mj3. No I haven't done anything but root. Still a little nervous. However I will get there. Should I flash the MJE? What are the benifits?

On another note, Since root, when I boot up phone wants to hang at start screen (one with unlock picture) timed it last time at 3.47. Is that normal?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
just a little food for thought!!! http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48583799&postcount=54

almost got all the DE bootchain working in odin soon we shall have pretty close to a full recovery tar for the dev edition including bootloaders :D :victory::laugh::good::cool:

also who was the guy who flashed non dev edition firmware on his dev edition? i know he is bricked would he be willing to maybe let me borrow the device to try and fix it/work on this some more?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Question to my fellow DE owners.

I flashed the MJE deodex zip from Beans and updated the modem via Odin. Everything appeared to update successfully.

I get a force close, "settings has stopped working" when I go to settings > security or lock screen.

Went into recovery and wiped Dalvik and cache.

Ordinarily I would wipe cache for the app in question but not sure where to go in this case.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

Getting the same error on the odex.zip.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hobbit19:
good news

we will have a full service firmware??

and we'll be able to crack the bootloader? I understand you correctly?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Coyle:
I know this is kind of random at this point in the thread, but I thought I'd just add another data point for people also asking "When the heck will it get here?" :

I just called Samsug to ask about the Galaxy Note 3 Verizon Developer Edition that I had put on backorder back on November 7th. Per the sales rep, they are using a queue system. They had a bunch that came in, but they've also all gone back out. The next batch they are expecting won't be until January. He didn't have a date.

So, I'm thinking about the time they announce the Note 4, we'll have all of our developer editions delivered ;).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
beans check your google hangouts sent you a message
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
If my experience is any indicator they are ignoring their back order queue. I placed a back order on Nov 27 and another (just for safety) on Dec 9. However, I kept reading about people here seeing and ordering from the web site so I started dropping in often. On Dec 13 I saw it available and pounced. The order sat in limbo with the funds reserved but not charged on my CC. Today they sent me a UPS tracking number. I will get my DE about Dec 20. Moral: back order -- it feels good to see the back order on their web site -- but lurk and be ready to pounce since they do not seem to be actually filling back orders before current orders.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kimdoocheol:
I didn't even get an e-mail. I signed up for it on the 6th... of November
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Correct, Samsung is not notifying people that the device is back in stock. You need to check the site to see the stock status.

Sent from my vzw note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
DAMN!!! BEANS ON FIRE!!!

:highfive:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Coyle:
When they deliver yours, or if they've delivered any that were ordered at later dates, then I would say that is absolute proof positive they're ignoring their queue. Sadly I don't have time to micromanage an order, so I guess I'll get it when it get it. Though to be honest this is turning me off of samsung before I've even started.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Relax...If you read thru the thread you will see that Samsung was shut down for 2 days due to a Ice storm in the Dallas area. That combined with the holiday season cause a major back up in processing orders. It took a week after placing my order before it shipped.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
Agreed. The ice storm was nasty. And it was in the teens for the next week. It will ship.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
On a side note I popped the sim out of my N2 and put it in the N3, it fired up with no issues. The N3 came with a sim but I would of had to get it activated, so I just put it in the box to keep as a spare. Oh and it looked identical to my N2 sim fwiw.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
I read something about the Note 3 SIM having NFC and the Note 2 not (because it was tied to the battery). Not sure if I'm right or if that matters to you, but figured you might want to know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
those sims are more important to the use of isis mobile wallet IIRC
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
Heck mine double boots doubt that`s normal lol. One full boot with animation sound and one that appears like a hot boot. I just try to ignore it instinct tells me it may be just because of having a custom recovery. I`m running MJ3 as well the tar file for the dev edition from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2483380 doesn`t seem to match what I have either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] midooooo123:
mesatom sea

I wish to buy note 3 but it is expensive her in arab country
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Yes I herd that :) ....point i was trying to make is both sims look identical. I was wondering if they were suppose to look different? I would think if the NFC chip was on the sim then it would look different?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Maybe you'll get a chance to test NFC with it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
NFC (well at least for beam and personal NFC tags I have made) works just fine without any sim for me. Still havn't activated mine yet so took the sim out to test and set up. Works just fine.

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Thats the tar I used. Which did you?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I just talked to a rep that actually had a clue. Couldnt believe it but he runs AOSP roms on his droid maxx dev edition. Anyway he said the only difference is that ISIS mobile wallet will not work with the old sim, but everything else will. I do not use that feature so know worries.

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Yep you are correct...I will keep the new sim in box just in case I decide to use ISIS.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Coyle:
I would have been very pleased if mine had shipped after a week.

If you had read my post you would have seen it's been six weeks now with no info other than their next batch won't be delivered until January, and I had to call them to find that out. Add to that the fact that others in the thread ordered after I did and received their phones already, and I think I have plenty of reason to be annoyed with Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pcss911:
Insurance

Is anyone able to suggest the best option for replacement insurance since Verizon's Assurion won't cover it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Squaretrade.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
Didn't use any of them but this morning flashed Beans Ron and it runs perfect. The only thing I noticed that at boot it reads in yellow set bit warranty: kernel. Double boot is gone which is nice.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
Yea thats next on the list. What rom did you flash?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
This one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2523159 I can tell just by running today lots of work and time was spent to make it perfection.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Can the dev edition flash any t mobile rom / kernel and still fully function?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I have it but it hasn't been tested with a claim. I got it when trying the retail note 3 and kept it going after it was returned. I read the contract and didn't see any exclusions for the situation; the VZ rep thought it would be covered. It covers whatever phone was connected to your number at the time of loss. It should since it's about $10 per month!

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All the kernels have been tested a while back and the roms should work as well but tmo/vzw bloatware may not work. You wouldn't want to flash the tmo firmware/modem! There is a tmo guy using Jellybeans so as long as you have a backup that works you should be relatively safe.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
It's covered, but you get retail unit for a replacement, not a DE unit. So you're wasting your money on Verizon insurance if it's a DE phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bjmjpl:
Again, ensure, 99 bux, 2 years. Lost or launched

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Sorry keeps autocorrecting...

Ensquare for insurance
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bisquick24:
I finally gave in and bought a rooted retail version. I lost the eBay auction. The winning bid was $1020. I love my Nexus, but I didn't want to wait any longer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
We're finally getting the attention we deserve..

Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1tl22o/samsung_officially_developer_unfriendly_witholds/

My g+ post: https://plus.google.com/102951198282085975693/posts/514mzRPFAh7

Currently #1 in android section of reddit :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
There we gotta atta boy beans!!! Love it man! I shared on g + I'll have to get on Reddit!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
1000 for the de on eBay??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
Yeah Merry Christmas, you guys are welcome lol

Last night you had 37 +1's at 10:18 P.M right before I posted that reddit thread. I dont even own a dev device so all of you better go comment, like, +1 or do something for all this crap i have to take lol. I have 79 messages in my inbox ranting calling me an ignorant dev, etc, etc.

Im more on the S4 side of things but I did try to help you guys this is prob our best chance at generating a response/reaction for this.

Warning: That thread is full of a bunch of f-tards. Serious f-tards. NSFD (not safe for devs) lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ryanbg:
Yeah, that's reddit. It's a love/hate relationship.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Sorry for the noob question. But how does being on reddit help our cause? I mean obviously it's good for the cause but I'm confused I'm not familiar with what reddit is or how it works. Can someone help me understand LOL?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
It does nothing...in the end Verizon and Samsung could give a **** about a small group of people that like to mod their devices. This will not change until Samsung sales drop and they stand up to Verizons BS. Motorola is going to take over since Google bought them and they are the only company that gives a rats ass about Android development. This might be my last Samsung as much as I hate to say it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bisquick24:
Yes for the phone plus 5 accessories.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
How do dev units get updates? I was looking at HTC's update info graphic and was surprised to see their developer and carrier unlocked units were on the same update tree, with no carrier bloat added. Is that how these go as well?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
From what I have read the Dev edition is getting no updates and no stock firmware. Pretty much Samsung **** on the Dev Edition device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
Well, since we'll probably all be on Motorolas in the future, anyone know how their dev units get updates?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Which is making me second guess my purchase.

How much should I ask for this phone, stock and used for 20 days?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
Beans has the modem update here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2524572

And you can flash his rom for the current build and kernel if you like. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2523159
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
So far retail edition Roms are compatible with dev edition . I do have couple of things I don't understand though . what happened with s4 , I am under the impression that the retail Roms did not work on the s4 dev . and also if kitkat comes out for retail , would we be able to use it on dev edition or not ?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I believe from google.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
And what about the Galaxy S3 and S4 Dev units? 4.3 update seems to be marking the end of development for those Samsungs, but what about those Dev units? It seems like Samsung would have to update them separately, but I haven't heard of any updates for them ever. Only stuff the community made. Is this really how Samsung handles Dev units? They're at end-of-life right out of the box?

Just trying to do the math on a 32gb phone with no expansion(Droid Maxx), and I just can't make the room without giving up something important.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
4.2.2 not 4.3. The Dev S4 has two versions one on 4.3 and the original ones on 4.2 2 Samsung has not provided an official update for the 4.2.2 dev devices to get to 4.3. Hope Moto makes a good phone next year :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
If you plan to root and flash roms, then updates really aren't a concern as the developer coming up with the roms will do all that for you. As a phone reaches it's end of cycle for the manufacturer, it's usually the developers who continue to provide updates and upgrades for things not released to either retail or developer editions.

Plus, it seems that the trend has been for retail guys for many phones to not take the updates because it will mess up root. So in a sense, a rooted retail version is just as much at the end of it's life as the developer edition is.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
I agree with most of that, except that if they don't release developer updates but only the locked down retail updates, then is there anything to build a ROM off of? For instance, the 4.3 roms I have seen for Verizon have been ports from other carrier roms.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Why cant the Dev S4's on 4.2.2 just flash a 4.3 .zip rom to update?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
They can. Just not an official one. Samsung hasnt released a 4.3 update for dev editions despite the fact that new dev S4's ship with them. They can flash kit kat if they want, just not officially
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Well thats no big deal if its official or not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Does anyone have a clue when they are going to have more in stock?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
LOL, the Note 4 will probably be out by the time some people get this thing...........
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Is a possible to run the T-Mobile note 3 on verizon and use verizon LTE? if so i think buying t mobile would be just like buying the verizon dev edition since their bootloader is unlocked? Or couldn't i buy the SM-N9005 verizon and run on verizon?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
The only thing I've ever come across is this Youtube video http://youtu.be/yMzx57K-YxI
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Ok, I need a little bit of help, anyone can point to a simple, step by step guide in how to install Beans ROM on the DE?

Every "guide" i see is very generic and to me, misleading.

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Boot into twrp recovery, wipe data, install beans5.zip. Its generic because its that easy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
See, all that makes no sense to me, besides the wipe part. Also, I assume that the root process lies somewhere in there? Which one to use, De La Vega?

But thanks, I guess I will have to do more search.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
This thread has step by step instructions in the OP. Read them, read them again, read them a third time, make sure you understand everything and then start doing stuff :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Samsung's replay to my email:

Dear "XDA USER",

Thank you for contacting Samsung Telecommunications America.

After reviewing your e-mail, we understand that you want to know the plans on re-stocking the item.

We see that the device has been shipped 90 days back and have checked the information and We want to inform you that we do not have an option to change the firmware version. However, We would be glad if you write back to us with the detailed description of your query to assist you better.

Please feel free to get back to us if you have any further concerns. We would be glad to assist you.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
Hahaha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
What must I do to purchase the dev edition :/.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
Wait until it's in stock on the Samsung website.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwkw480:
Smart aleck :) Doesn't seem like it will be in stock anytime soon. I guess it sucks to be atm.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
I'll sell you mine for $900 :p

Sent from my Dev Edition Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Y'know, I wouldn't sell mine for $900...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
Seeing as there is near zero development, I would do that deal.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Oh I don't know. We just got Cyanogenmod. That and I still stand by my original reasoning - Samsung knows that I value an unlocked bootloader enough to pay for it, and I don't ever have to worry about a patch. I'm not as in tune with this stuff as most on here though. I like to be able to heavily customize my phone when I get it, but once I find a setup I like I tend to settle in and just use it. I could probably have the phone set up virtually identically with a retail version, but that really isn't the point to me. Basically, if I sold it for $900 I'd still want to buy another one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dhufford81:
I'd buy the T-Mobile version and try to make it work on Verizon. Seems like it would work just fine, I've flashed both sprint and T-Mobile versions of cm11 and they both worked fine for the most part. No outgoing SMS on the T-Mobile version, but that was software related not hardware.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
What do you mean there is no development? I see 7 TW roms and CM11, not to mention almost everything T-mobile is compatible. If you want a thousand roms to flash then buy a nexus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
I stand corrected.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
I'm wondering if the DE would work on Tmo soon to be acquired 700mhz. As it is, the DE cant use TMo HSPA+.

This is in case that Verizon takes away my unlimited in the next 3 years or so.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BootlegZani:
The real question is does this get the updates put out by Verizon? I know it is probably been answered in this thread a million times but its 211 pages long at this point.

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Forget it. I got my answer. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
what more do you want?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cheezwhiz:
insurance?

Speaking about "no support," does anyone know if Asurion will cover the DE? My concern is that they either wouldn't cover it at all, or would give me a retail Note as a replacement instead of a DE. What are you guys doing to insure your phones?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
I do not know the answer to this. But if DE's are in short supply for the retail market with a waiting list, I would imagine that an insurance replacement would be a Retail device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dhufford81:
Squaretrade is the best no questions asked, throw your brand new device in the toilet after bricking it from boot loader unlock attempts third party insurance you can get for a reasonable cost. Plus if you got a Dev Edition and later you break it but Samsung doesn't sell anymore squaretrade will mail you a check for the full amount shown on the receipt you provide them after signing up for insurance. Screw cell company in house insurance, they just look to screw you like the cell companies do. My 2 pennies.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BootlegZani:
While your entirely correct I think this might be the most worthless DE phones yet. Granted it shouldn't matter for me as I still have to pay full retail for my device to keep unlimited data. I think I want the White front anyway and not enough development going on for this device probably due to lack of supply of these DEs.