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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Just lol.

I talked about OC?

As i can read no.

And yes, i have a lot of device at home and all are rooted, and some of this are in warranty with the root.

Why?

Because all problems wasn't by software.

And root isn't the same of OC ;)

The same a custom rom, if i will customize and do a better software for my tablet why i can't?

Sent from One with Tapa4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spinkick:
So what's your problem? You can root this phone too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
And how they can testify that a previous tamper of firmware can done an hardware issue? ;)

Sent from One with Tapa4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spinkick:
They don't need to. A voided warranty is a voided warranty.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
it's wrong if they decide not to honor defective workmanship just because you've rooted. why should android devices be treated differently than any other laptop or computer that you have root access out of the box?

sure if you oc, then yes, you should give up your rights to a warranty repair for burning up the pcb, processor, gpu, etc. but a dead pixel, separating screen or charging port that comes loose has nothing to do with rooting.

once i86 version gets it's wrinkles out and apps start to support it more i'll be dumping this crap they're doing with the arm versions. dual/triple boot windows/linux/android would be a sweet thing! i haven't tried it on my 700t yet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
The problem is that with this tablet i can have the warranty if i will root and temper it also if i will restore the original firmware.

And this don't have sense if the problem isn't released to software.

Sent from One with Tapa4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spinkick:
You can drop smilies all day long, I think what you want is to fiddle your phone and if something breaks, your fault or not, you get it replaced under warranty. There really isn't any other reason to be bothered by it. What am I missing? Can you not do something because of knox?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] atg284:
I'm just going to throw this out there....I'm not planning on rooting this any time soon...perhaps down the road and then I wont care about the warranty that much.

*ducks for cover*
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Smac7:
just chatted with samsung. hardware is still covered as long as it's not related to root. Here's the transcript.

EDIT: i suppose rooting is different than root + custom rom. I hope that doesn't make a difference in what she told me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spinkick:
It's a pretty big problem, lots of people break their phones rooting and turn around and look to make the manufacturer cover their mistakes. This costs the carrier, and us, lots of money. I don't weep for carriers but fraud is fraud so I have no sympathy for those people.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
No, they have.

They can't say that the hardware issue was a my fault with a flash of custom firmware.

Thet have to show and prove this.

If i sill buy a device, i have a warranty, and a software edit don't have any conseguence on an hardware issue.

As chainfire said is that in Europe, samsung can't do this because there is a law about this.

Why i can't have a repair from the warranty if i will root my tablet?

Know will blocm my counter and if i have a broken usb port i can't have the warranty because i rooted and flashed it?

Maybe the usb port will broke itself after some month that i've the tablet, but isn't my fault if i'm running a custom firmware.

Sent from One with Tapa4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Samsung may just not fix your broken power button until you agree to pay to have the device brought back to factory spec. A blown eFuse may need to be repaired to bring the device back to factory specs and re-certified.

I don't know were the eFuse resides but it could be built into the main architecture of the device and that could be very costly.

Who's going to be the first to see what happens????????

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spinkick:
I agree with you, but I think that's the exception rather than the rule.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
and I agree that rooting should void some coverage, but not the entire device. besides, shouldn't they have a way to tell if you oc? I remember some processors and/or gpu had oc detection that voided the coverage. i'd gladly give up software assisance if they still warranty the workmanship.

seeing how you can under and overvolt some devices, overclock gpu and cpu, and increase charging voltage in some instances, I can see why they'd do this.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dscline:
I fixed it for you. This is nothing new. All that's changed is an additional tool for them to know that you've tampered with the device. This is very typical, whether you're talking about a tablet, or flashing the ECU in a car. They don't want to be financially responsible for people messing things up. Just because they have the verbiage, and a means to enforce it, doesn't necessarily mean they won't cover issues that aren't the result of your tampering. It's a lot easier to have the policy and a means to enforce it, and allow concessions when it's appropriate, than it is to try to prove the cases where the customer messed things up if they don't have the tools.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Ok, so i will root my device, knox will remember all the time i flashed something.

After two month the speakers don't work.

I will send this to warranty.

With this new system, they can say that i broke the speaker with a custom firmware/kernel.

But how they can confirm that is so?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
after thinking about it some software issues are there already that you void when rooting. see the post about the bootloops when installing too many apps.

some issues are only fixed by rooting. the galaxy note 8 has a pen offset that samsung has yet to fix. the setting in the kernel, so it can't be fixed with any calibration. civato fixed it in his version of 4.2.2, but samsung hasn't done anything about it yet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ddavtian:
They don't have to confirm, they told us in advance: root it and lose it. Fair from company's point of view. l don't like it, but I understand why they do it. I will take the risk, will root to remove bloatware.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
i'll surely be rooting. so far i like this tablet enough to make it a keeper. slight bleed, but only at full brightness in the dark and i never use it that way.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
And ok, samsung said this, but why i can't have a warranty on the hardware if i flashed a custom firmware?

This don't have sense :mad:

And as i will say under this answer, i will root too.

I will root too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] The_Maverick:
Just let it go, man. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make sense to you, those are just the terms you agree to when you buy the thing.

Everybody is agreeing with you that they'd also want warranty for hardware issues while rooted, but that's just not the current situation.

If you need to vent about this, make some noise in Samsung's direction and maybe, for some device down the line, the situation will be different.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
There is a lot of people like me, here, in Italy, for this problem and other problem of the warranty.

And however, also the people that have a Note 3 are angry for the region lock because this don't work as samsung said.

Complain with samsung dosn't do much...

Finally, I'm thinking that samsung are trying to do devices as much as possible locked.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] The_Maverick:
Complaining on here doesn't either.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Is the same on FB, Twitter, email and chat with their employees ;)

p.s. We're into a discussion, so everyone can write all he/she are thinking about samsung and this behavior.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
If you are so unhappy with Samsung why not switch to another brand?

You won't and we all know the reason why, because even with there faults Samsung still makes the best devices on the planet.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Because the features of this tablet from samsung are the best for my use.

I need a tablet for school and my work.

And the s-pen, the big screen, the multiwndows and 3G of ram are perfect for me ;)

And I don't agree, samsung aren't make the best devices, HTC One, LG G2, and other devices are better then S4 ;)

Trust me, and i tried all of this :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
I thought Knox was for business phones and devices. Do we really have to worry?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Anyone can use knox...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
Yes, but where is the proof all this is in the Note? I haven't found a source that says so. Sorry, I've been out of the loop.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
If you can use or not know isn't a prob.

If you will unlock, know will remember the tamper, if it's enabled or not ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] zepfan221:
I had an issue with Bootlooping earlier today, and had to wipe the device. As I wasn't sure of the menu access, I found the option for flashing another software. By turning the tablet off then pressing Power+Volume Up+Home (might be Power+Volume Down+Home, I can't remember), you can access this menu where it lists the Knox count. I don't know if this helps, but it is an easy way to see it for now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
Well if it does, I'm just going to buy a square and trade warranty and if anything happens they'll fix it. Heck, even if they don't my credit card might cover damages no matter what.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Oh it has it, go to this page http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note/SM-P6000ZWVXAR-specs look at Business & Office Features.

This device is knox certified and when you root it Knox trips an eFuse voiding the Knox warranty and maybe your device warranty.

Samsung KNOX Application Overview

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] The_Maverick:
Is this fact? I thought it was just a fear/speculation.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
The feat of KNOX and warranties can be solved 2 ways.

1. Buy a square and trade or 3rd party warranty. They will cover any damages for you and repairs if the manufacturer won't do so.

2. Buy your product using a PREMIUM credit card. This ALSO extends your warranty by an extra year. If the manufacturer won't cover your warranty, your credit card company most likely will, check with them first. But Visa and AE tend to. I know AE will cover almost anything without question because they just have great customer service like that.

Knox and efuse defeated.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Go to this link for more info.

Rooting voids the Knox warranty but does it void the device warranty, I don't know.

You may never need to have your device fixed under warranty but if you do..... What happens then?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Samsung are trolling us...

For first phrase are meaning that you don't know if you will lose the warranty of the device whene we will lose the knox warranty?

I'm a bit confused right now... :confused:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Rooting definitely voids the Knox warranty, but what I'm not sure of is...... once the knox warranty is void does it then void the entire tablets warranty.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] biftekman:
The problem is that users are afraid of a scenario where we root our device and end up with a failure that is independent of our rooting and doesn't get covered by warranty.

Now from the other perspective, supposedly Samsung doesn't like random folks rooting their devices because of the possibility to OC it and eventually fry it. In that case we should surely agree that the warranty should NOT cover this kind of stupidity (or call it accident if you like). But in the case of fried MB you can't check the fuses, right?

So what's the point of software warranty-void indicators if the result of user inflicted damage caused by our root can't even be proven.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
honestly i doubt it has anything to do with warranty repairs. with root and custom roms you can disable all those services collect data and report back to samsung. there's a lot of money in your data.

why else would there be apps you can't uninstall or disable or services you can't stop?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Darkman:
For the new Note 3 there is a PreRooted ROM how is flashable over ODIN.

And the KNOX Warranty Counter is 0x0 after flashing :good:

I hope and i think it is possible to Root the Note 10.1 2014 with an Prerooted ROM to...

The DEVs need only a few time .. then we habe Root :D :victory:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Driftwood01:
I am waiting for this too. I hope someone helps us out. I hate not having my tablet rooted.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Guich:
Yes, i saw :)

But there is only one prob, here nobody have posted yet in the dev section lol
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
that root only give root. if you try and install a custom recovery then you'll still trip it.

it hasn't been a week yet, but the sprint g note 3 has been out just as long and a lots been ported to it and they've got custom roms. i know the 2012 didn't have a whole lotta development ealry on, but we at least had root the first weekend. i wish i knew more about rooting and i'd try some of the options.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Driftwood01:
I got a 2 year accidental drops and spills warranty with Squaretrade. I called them to ask if rooting my tablet voids the warranty and they told me I was allowed to do it. I don't care about my Samsung warranty since I have the other, so I will wait one more week and then root if no one can find a way to do it without tripping Knox counter.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
That's the way to go. No matter what you are covered.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] madsquabbles:
my opinion is that if they're profitable from me paying "protection" then the chances that i'll ever need it is very low so i don't get it. granted i finally had an accident and it happened to be on the ONLY device i ever bought coverage for, lol.

now health insurance is a different matter. although if my bosses from all my years of having it would have dumped that money into a "medical fund" for the last 25yrs i'd have enough money to fix just about anything wrong with me. small businesses pay out the butt to get insurance. my wife was whining that her insurance was going up another 5-10% where ours was going up 30% each year for the last 3 years.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Mr_Armageddon:
Just did the same since they just happened to send me a 30% off Code. I figure its worth the cost if it allows me to tinker with my device like I would prefer too, without having to worry if some hardware component goes bad. Plus I have 3 (soon 4) small children, who sometimes sneak into my work bag and "play" with my electronic devices :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] louvass:
I clicked on Knox in the Samsung group and it asked for me to install it, are the tablets coming without this installed ? And isn't it just like that flash counter on Samsung S3. Seems like the same type thing, I rooted my S3 a week after purchase.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] skeeterpro:
From what I can tell, the S3 Knox should appear in the 4.3 upgrade.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Ulrik1908:
Knox warranty void: 0x1

I have had my Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 for 3 months and suddenly it stops working. I send it in and the telle me that I have used "unauthorized software" since a "Knox warranty void: 0x1" shows up. They can't tell me which software and I cannot see how I can have done something wrong. I have used it with standard software it came with and loaded a few apps through Samsung and Google play - that's it. The shop tells me that a "wrong app" would do it. Is that correct ? Do they have a case ? How would I know if software is "authorized" ("wrong") ? I would assume that all software in Google Play and Samsungs own store is "authorized" - or ? I would be happy for any help. Righ now they wont do anything, unless I pay for a new PCB !!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] lsherif:
Have you installed a custom recovery, TWRP or CWM
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] SlimJ87D:
Did you buy it with a premium credit card? My only suggestion is to call your credit card company and see if you have a extended manufacturers warranty and explain what happened and see if they will pay for the fix for you.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rirawin:
I know this is an Android thread and bashing Apple is the norm, however, I can't but help this is such backwards behaviour from Samsung. At least Apple products don't have this garbage to deal with, so if you trip knox you void warranty. I love my Note because of the spen however, this is all types of ridiculousness.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] migaspepino:
Bull**** in Europe

If you are in EU that's Bull****. According to EU law the Warranty CAN only be VOID if there is evidence of physical tampering or if the fact you altered the software directly contributed to physical damage. See Directive 1999/44/CE for more info.

If you are NOT in European Union don't even try to play lawyer or you'll be screwed Big Time.

Also be sure to check this and this.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Paulx777:
Me to. I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 under a T-Mobile contact that has had some problems in the past. If they can't troubleshoot your problem over the phone, they will send you a brand new phone without a battery. Then when you get the phone in the mall, you just put your SIM card and battery and back cover onto the new phone, put your defective phone in the same box, seal it and send back. Never have they questioned me about whether or not I rooted my phone or not.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] DankVader:
It Seems wrong for Samsung to refuse warranty, just because someone wants to use their device to its fullest ability. Which is of course what root gives us. This will not deter users from rooting. But I'm sure it will deter people from purchasing Samsung products in the future.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Tautvaldas:
I will never buy samsung tablet anymore.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] RaptorMD:
If Samsung didn't crap up the device along with the carriers users would be so inclined to root an add the removed functionality back in. If Samsung would just use Android as is and create TW as a Launcher that uses integrated features instead of baking it and the features into the OS then Samsung would be able to update the devices faster.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] DankVader:
I couldn't agree with you more.

I didn't spend good money, to buy a device, that I can only do what the manufacturer wants me to do with it. Its ridiculous. The entire purpose of the Android operating system is to be able to make the device your own. When you eliminate the uniqueness factor that root enables, you stifle the individuality factor that is the core being of the Android.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ps000000:
The KNOX counter make me stick with original firmware....:silly:

( My Nexus 5 is much more fun ROM flashing )
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] graffix31:
Looks like they may have got a note 3 back to 0x0. Could be good for us.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] DonJohe:
After a long frustrating period using my BA (search for my previous posts) I have can finally make it do what I needed - thanks loads all you smart people doing this stuff!

I was able to figure everything by reading the website plus a little trial and error so those of you frustrated like I was - don't give up!

While I had many minor complaints, the worst one was that the phone would at various times suddenly lose reception and require a soft reboot. I would go hours without realizing it and then get in trouble because I wasn't reachable.

My last attempt at upgrading resulted in a week with the newest radio but a dead BB client.

This time was different.

The improved software here and the different downloadable roms really made things better this time. It still cost me about a day and a half but that included testing WM5 which worked but has no Blackberry client.

Starting with the standard German T-Mobile latest ROM, I was sucessful with the following:

- DLd the newest NL T-Mob ROM "BA_TMNL_14200_115_11300_Ship"

- Pressed reset/off/record to get into the rom loader screen

- DLd and used "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" to upload the ROM

- DLd and used "xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB" & "Repart_DOC.exe" to remove unwanted cabs in the ext mem, and to reduce the size of ext mem to free up for other functions

- After unlocking EXT mem, copied everything I wanted to the hard drive and resized the EXT mem.

- On rebooting the phone said yes to the error message about deleting everything in EXT mem because it was corrupted.

- Copied the cabs I kept back into the (now smaller) ext mem

- Hard reset and now only the stuff I want installs.

End Result:

- Blackberry works well (number one priority)

- The phone hasn't once required a reboot in 24 hours

- WLAN works better (longer range, easier switching between GPRS &

- newest version of WM2003

- newest BB client

- Everything is in English

One small problem: the German keyboard is still not configured correctly despite DLing and installing the appropriate cab. No big deal, I think I like the keyboard better this way.

I would be happy to help anyone else having problems with blue angel, MDA-III, VPA, Qtek9090, etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mehoob12:
hello there

i have S4 (GT-I9505) i had custom rom on it than i try to flash with stock rom

the phone is working but no wifi or sound

please could help me

thanks alot
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
What ROM did you have on it before you tried to flash the stock ROM and what ROM did you attempt to flash?

How did you attempt to flash it... Odin, Mobile Odin, CWM (if CWM, which CWM recovery did you use exactly)?

Did you do a full wipe, format data, system, etc. before attempting to flash?

The more details you can provide, the better your chances are of getting help.

Loss of sound and wifi is the classic sign of bootloader problems.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovidiugr:
does anyone have it? pls link. thanks.

if you have a Note 3 look for it in Internal Memory\Samsung\Music\ , might be there, like it was there on Note 2 and 1.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Negan:
Lol dude its in System media audio ringtones !

sent from my Note 3

respect,teach,coach,say thanks and have fun...

●●●The Jedi way●●● ? ? ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovidiugr:
no, that's the ringtone. I have that. I was saying about the THEME music, not the ringtone. (they're not identical)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dehaani:
Okay, I got the ringtone. Let's see..
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mab71:
Pm me and I'll email it to you
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovidiugr:
PM sent. did you receive it?

it's not showing on my sent items i'll try again

edit: lol sorry, forgot to check to save a copy in my sent items. means I might have sent you 2 PMs.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovidiugr:
thank you, PM sent (twice by mistake). waiting for your email.

edit: Thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ahmed87:
Can you share with us please? thank you.