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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
OK but how is resetting the phone twice and making me wait for it good for the business ? And besides sure they protected their business but now do you think I'll ever conduct a transaction like that again in best buy ? The next time am buying from someone that doesn't interrogate me . thank God for choices . anyyyywayyyy the while point of my post is to tell people restore to stock and get rid of all evidence of customizations. This guy would have def objected the return if he saw custom firmware or that unlock boot animation . now that I think about it maybe that was the point of reset . which upsets even more because it goes back to the whole point of our phones and we can't even root it . return that stuff peeps ... Stick it to verizon and say no to cellular slavery !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Well what i dont like is they make you wait on it. they can check later i mean the imei is attached to your account they cant charge you back if they have an issue or something. i mean if i took mine to verizon with no phone in the box since they didnt check it the imei shows it was on my line and they will charge me. that make sense?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
This is the game they play. I hate that store.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
You know the frustrating part of waiting for the "coming soon" developer phone is not knowing when its gonna be available What's the difference if a date is attached? Unless they drag it out so most people buy the phone on contract. Who knows guess I should've keep my S4 to hold me over.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kimdoocheol:
Best Buy is far from a smart company. They simply can't match the overhead of online stores. Now they lower their prices to match amazon but have a way bigger overhead. So how do they make money? By screwing people with insurance and device buy back. So they are smart because they pick on people who trust them and don't know any better? Sounds like a company that doesn't care about their consumer. Once enough people get screwed over they'll have no one left. They don't monopolize the market like VZW does in terms of coverage and service. VZW would be screwed too if another company came along and offered the same coverage and better data packages.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Well I was able to play with the locked up n3 and now that it will be returned I find I can wait for the DE. At least I got my sim updated, the old sim wouldn't have worked even if cut successfully. :)

Lillie via LG Spectrum & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
welcome to the waiting crowd! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Where's the developer edition! I need it now that my Note 3 is sold!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Good question. We need a mole at Samsung! Who's ready to go undercover?! :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
So I stopped into my boys Verizon Corp store today and who do I find there? A rep from Samsung!!! He was promoting the note 3 series and the galaxy gear, this dude was decked out in Samsung products anyway, him and I start going back and forth about hacking and locked bootloader. He clearly stated they have had several meeting about bootloaders and why some U.S carriers lock them down so tight, he advised Samsung can really careless if the bootloaders was locked but Verizon and AT&T force them to do so. He stated the only reason for Knox is to get Corp and Government contracts and that Samsung will warrant any software modifications (knox trip). He stated they have received emails that Samsung is looking into removing region lock for future phones including the Note 3. He asked me how I like the Note 3 and I told him I love it but it will be the last Samsung due to the locked bootloader and how Sammy forces us to pay retail to get a DE phone. He stated Samsung is looking into giving the user a profile choice when setting up a phone (bootloader options). I told him I will believe it when I see it but he sound pretty sure the information he was giving was correct.

Take this with a grain of salt.

Oh ya he said look for the DE phone towards middle to late November.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] hahahi123:
So will DE note 3 be basically the same as the standard note 3 that is offered currently in the near future?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
Guess that 6 week after launch would be accurate if its middle to end of November.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
That would be great if you could go in on release day and just choose an unlocked bootloader profile. No more waiting for a DE version. And if vzw would subsidize with contract that would help take the sting out of the fact that they still whack you for the full price phones in the monthly bill. Please vzw, help me to hate you less!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
verizon wont subsidize it cause they dont want to mess with a developer phone as far as warranty and issues with it go.

and PS today is 14 day return date reminder for off contract note 3 buyers! really hope samsung drops note 3 tomorrow after the 14 day return period LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] inco9nito99:
Had my retail VZW N3 returned yesterday AND got half of my $35 re-stock fee waived as I complained about the WiFi not being able to connect properly "unstable" issue plaguing our phoens. IF you file a complaint with a CSR over the phone prior to returning, they will waive the re-stock fee as the phone is deemed flawed. I unfortunately didn't have a complaint filed, but the CSR was nice enough to grant me half of the fee.

Impatiently waiting for the DEV edition VZW N3 :cowboy:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] lmike6453:
Just a reminder that if you bought it on contact for 300 just sell it on the side for way more instead of getting your 300 back...

Me personally? Root alone is enough to say it's "keepable" while still having hopes for SS
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
And get the DE in hand and swap the sims first! :)

Lillie via LG Spectrum & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Epic 4g:
Only Black?!?

I am on Samsung's Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition site & I see that the only color available is black. Will white be an option also?!? :confused:

I hope so because I really don't want black. Why would Samsung do this? :crying: I mean I will make due with black but limiting the consumer is bad business in my eyes. Not good if this turns out to be true. :(

Check this out:

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW-specs
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i am sure it will be black only. they usually offer only one color for dev devices
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Oh well, you know what they say, once you go black.. :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
You gonna need a wheel chair.

But back on topic, i checked out swappa and they go from 650-700 so thats where ill be selling mine for about 600 just to sell it faster. I'm not gunna cry over 50$ especially if i have a dev edition in my hands.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Took mine back, they didn't have the money on hand to give to me, there gonna send a check. Hopefully that want be trouble. My DNA feels weird after havingb my hands on the note. Anxiously waiting the DE

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Exactly! Wait, what? :confused::eek:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saXBRA_4n5g

from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlbVuo1w74U
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Where is developer edition!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Legato Bluesummers:
So since I've never owned a Dev edition. Probably sell this then to get it. I know they come easily modifiable. Is the boot loader pre unlocked, or do you still need to go into fast boot and do "fastboot oem unlock" command to unlock it? To root do you just download super user from market and are done? Just curious. Not sure if anyone even knows the answers.

Sent from my GlaDos Baked Potato
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
The bootloader comes unlocked hence... everyone saying and Samsung it comes unlocked... To root we just need a custom recovery tool flash a root package.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Can't wait man! Already got the tease before selling my Note 3! Now it's the waiting game!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
Lol, the note 4 will probably be out by then......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Ya if it's not released by December and there's no unlocked bootloader, Verizon lost a valued customer. I'll just get the Note 3 from Sprint or T-Mobile!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Now now I hope the developer edition is out before October 2014 lol

Give Samsung time they have to take all the returns we gave to Verizon and rework them to sell and make money on again lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
My birthday is in about 2.5 weeks, how about a birthday release date Samsung!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
No no that's too long away lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BootlegZani:
This needs to hurry up and come out already. For once Verizon drops the phone relatively close to other carriers release date and then I hear about this and start waiting.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
unfortunately, time stands still in the android world when you're waiting on a phone or tablet. I'm just glad to see so much interest in the de note 3. hopefully we all will have some nice roms to flash for a long time to come.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Caveman419:
The Coming Soon has disapperard from it, but no add to cart button yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
OMG i cant feel my bones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Jolle_1:
Tried getting some info by chatting to someone in product support. Waste of time since this person kept telling me to contact Verizon "Samsung only makes the phone, Verizon sells it, even developer edition"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
me too. i sent them links for s4 and note 3 developer edition and they were gone for 10 mins and came back and said their manager and others all say you need to go to verizon. i was like wow facepalm!! :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Jolle_1:
Seems like "coming soon" only disappeared from the mobile site, checked from my desktop and it is still listed as coming soon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Caveman419:
I have been viewing this from my desktop only:

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
It looks the same to me! I'd post your concerns here! That's what I did!

https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/1007114
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Im f5ing it every minute lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
my whole life has been put on hold!!!! come on shop button, show yourself!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
It will probably say "coming not so soon" by the end of the day :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
im projecting friday although i hope im wrong lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
also if you guys havent noticed almost all the recently added accessories now say coming soon but still have shop button and show backordered
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
Not to be a buzzkill, but i have stated a few times we are looking at December for the Dev edition. Sorry guys, but thats why I kept my locked edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Not to discredit your source, since I have none of my own, but we seem to be getting conflicting info from more than one supposedly credible source. I wonder if they don't intentionally create confusion, just to create buzz. Wouldn't be the most ridiculous thing done in the name of marketing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i am still going with my samsung rep that told me day link went live first of novemeber.

and they could be testing the waters now but surprised to say the least it doesnt have a shop button that takes you to backorder
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
On the advice of the devs, I sold my retail unit and I'm now eagerly awaiting the DE.

November 1st would be great :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] inco9nito99:
So I have yet to read all of the previous comments, but IF the DE goes for sale on November 1st, where can one purchase one for Verizon usage? Directly at a corporate VZW store? Or?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Crap watch it be released b4 slow vzw sends me my money

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
The chances are it will be very soon because the Samsung website has pulled the (Coming soon) from the header in their webpage within the last 8 hours. In all theory I believe we are down to just days before the device can be ordered.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
Samsung's website.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] streetracer8605:
How does the warranty and/or insurance work with VZW on one of these? Do you still get a one year manufactures warranty?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
You get it if the device is defect as far as anything other than a software problem
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] downhillvinnie:
Hate to be the buzzkill here but when has Verizon done anything in a speedy fashion for it's customers? This developers edition will be cool if we get it and when. I am still enjoying my rooted Note 3. Other than ROMS I am able to customize it how I want. I look forward to a ROM to get some longer battery life out of it, etc.....I hope it comes out soon, but my money is on it isnt as all Verizon stuff takes forever.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I just don't buy the "It's up to Verizon" argument. If it were their call, the Dev Edition

would not exist.

It seems likely that Dev Editions are something that Verizon and Samsung compromised on and the release date is quite probably a matter of contract.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
This isn't true. Take the nexus 7 for example. They had to certify it for the network and allow it to run on their network. Same goes for developer edition. And Verizon actually doesn't mind developer devices from Samsung cause they don't have to worry about warranting issues and problems with them so they can make more money. But Verizon does have to give the ok to Samsung before Samsung can sell them
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] texasez:
I looked on the samsung web site but I could not find the dev edition note 3. Anyone have a link? Price?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW

should be $699 maybe $749

i had a dream it was $779 for what its worth haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
i can never find this page

You know i can never find this webpage through navigating their website , of course cut and paste works, but it scares me lil. I wonder if they took off the coming soon potion because its really no where near release date.

Anyway, here is another questions, who do you guys talk to or chat with to ask ETA from samsung. every time i chat , it comes out to be tech support, every time i call, i hit a full voice mail inbox, its a vicious loop.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
you can find it via through their website. in the top right hand corner type in note 3 and it is the first hit for me or you can hit search it is at the bottom of the page. also i find it odd the accessories almost all say coming soon now but the phone doesnt anymore kinda strange if you ask me!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
They had to certify the Nexus 7 because the FCC stepped in, they tried to block it entirely. I'm sure it isn't just a matter of Verizon

giving the OK

. I'm sure the date was established as part of the contracts between Verizon and Samsung surrounding the Note 3 in general. To the tune of: We get the Note 3 configured in this manner with our add-on software exclusively on our network until (date) at which time you (Samsung) can release other versions of the phone that we will certify. Verizon aren't just in the business of selling service, they sell phones as well (I guarantee they make money on every "subsidized" phone they send out the door and not just from the price of the service) and I don't buy that they would let that profit out of their hands just to avoid warranty issues.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
No actually they don't make much if any on subsidized note 3 at least. take a look at the droid life article about it costs $240 to make a note 3 minus software. Verizon sells them for $299 on contract or less with a 30% coupon. Samsung isn't selling them to Verizon for less then it cost them to make them. Verizon makes money off their plans almost exclusively. any Verizon employee or manager will tell you that. They don't make anything hardly off the full retail note 3. Cost is so close to full retail it is strictly off their plans that is why they want unlimited data to go bye bye. And back to the Verizon point i seriously think Samsung gets the notes that were traded back in within the first 14 days of purchase and sells them back to the consumers that would follow the 4-6 week time frame after a release of a device. When i took my note 3 back the guys at Verizon said they cant do anything with them if they wanted to they are boxed up and sent directly to Samsung for further use. so i would put money on those are our developer editions. Then they have to get approval again from verizon for the different software on the developer version
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I'm sure they will, and it is probably what they are told, but that doesn't make it the unvarnished truth. If you were to dig into Verizon's tax filings - and not get distracted/enraged by the fact that they really don't pay any - I'm fairly sure you would find that they amortize the cost of a phone bought on plan over the 24 month contract period: $299 (or whatever) + monthly fee x 24. That monthly amount doesn't count as taxable income the whole time, so they're getting full price for the phone in the end.

My whole point here is that this stuff isn't as simple as "Samsung decided to do this" and "Verizon decided to do that". They have a very complicated and intertwined business relationship and the details have been worked out by lawyers long before phone 1 hits the shelves. You might be right about returns being the source of the DE models (easier to sell than a 'refurbished' phone), but don't doubt for a minute that if the contracts allowed it, Samsung would've had one available on their website from day 1.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
im not saying that it isnt what they are told but i am sure they make it up on the back end that nobody except verizon big shots and accounting dept etc and i think they lump sum pay for all the phones as they are sold instead of going out over the 24 month but you never know if they can find a loop hole or something to take advantage of.

I am not sure samsung would have had them from day 1. they make the same amount of money off the developer ones as they do off contract verizon ones. the population is so small that buys developer ones i just dont think they really care. i mean they may sell 250 note 3 developer ones that is nothing compared to off contract note 3 around the world. the developer ones are a small use for the returned phones and it doesnt have to even be verizon returns i guess could be any carrier i dont know
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Oh yes, Verizon are the absolute kings of the loophole! Seriously, if you want to get angry over something, Google Verizon tax rate.

I'm of the opinion that Samsung understands that the rapid improvements to the android platform have been driven at least partially by the Dev community. A strong Dev community is a benefit to them - look at Touchwiz and tell me you don't see the influence of third party ROM's and launchers. There is a reason even Wozniak admits the IPhone is behind!

I also am not sure I believe that they charge Verizon full retail price for the phones - if they did, it would be the only industry that does anything like this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jackdubl:
THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE. You get a 30 day warranty. 30 day return or exchange window, as well. After that, any repairs are for a charge. That's what it says when you go to buy a developer phone on the checkout page, and it was confirmed over the phone on the order line. I haven't contacted the warranty dept to find out what 'repairs for a charge' means.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
OH i know right with the loopholes lol

and i dont mind touchwiz and yes i get the feel that aftermarket launchers are including some of the features. and lets not talk about the iphone it has always been behind lol

and i will have to do some digging on what verizon pays for phones and let you know
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
It no longer says coming soon... SO maybe release is soon to be here..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
It's been like that for 2 days.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Hurry up Verizon! I'm so close to switching carriers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
you arent kidding. verizon 4g has been sucking really bad lately for me too. full bars of 4g and only getting 5 mbps download and .01 upload that sucks!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Funny how the older generations just get

soooooo sloooooooowwww

when they want everyone to upgrade. AT&T is no better: In our area (admittedly out in the sticks...) AT&T just spent a bunch of money 'upgrading' their towers, plunging some into about a 10 day period of total cell blackout, and the end result is that everyone with an outdated phone has half the reception they used to, but the newest stuff just

flies

.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
this isnt about old tech its about iphones that are now 4g flooding the network. the note 3 didnt fly on it and the htc one now still doesnt and friends iphone pulled the same speedtest results as my htc one. i dont consider htc one or note 3 outdated either btw ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Sorry, misread/misunderstood. For some reason my brain substituted 3g where you said 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
That's ok lol just sucks 4g is so slow now
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Jermehh:
Really? I'm consistently getting over 25Mbps on it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
4g in my area took a huge hit. Went from 20mbps to 6mbps if im lucky... it was nice having the tower to myself for as long as I did.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Yes really I rarely get over 8 now. Check Verizon support on Twitter I tweeted them a photo this afternoon and I had 3.67 download and couldn't even pull an upload and yes full bars too lol

Yeah I know I miss my thunderbolt days lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
If its not for sale by the first week of November I'm gonna buy a T-Mobile Note 3, and start a new plan with AT&T! I'll have unlocked bootloader and good service! Its just the process of doing this is a pain, so hopefully Verizon won't let us down! It just doesn't look good to me, that they took COMING SOON down, and the dev edition isn't in there browsing section? No known date of release? Its like a big f***ing tease! :mad:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
FWIW, a shop button is now popping up for me on the page but when I click it the cart is still empty.. Anyone else?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bodieism:
Same here.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Same for me. I'm ready to shop!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
The support link is working, the faq, videos and owners manual are now working.

Lillie via LG Spectrum (waiting for N3 DE) & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
still empty cart what is going on!!