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[G2 General] NexusWarrior:
I don't see a Developer tag next to your name? I know what the option means, obviously you have it backwards. Wasn't trying to start a fight, just letting you know you're wrong. Have a nice day.
[G2 General] Kryptyx:
I agree, I don't think you should disable this feature. Yes it may perform marginally better (at best) but you are forcing the device to run at higher than expected temperatures. Saying that it is safe because it is an option is like saying its safe for me to overvolt my CPU in my computer's BIOS just because I have the option to.

Also, how is this a mod? You are changing a default value, you are not adding or removing any code.
[G2 General] tarroyo:
Post deleted!
[G2 General] kryogenik:
Done enough testing. No discernable difference except shorter battery life.

Snake oil.
[G2 General] phatmanxxl:
I second this, all it takes is one situation to fry your phone. They have these safety protocols in the phone for a reason. You wouldn't change the thermostat in your car engine to one that makes the engine temp almost redline for 10 extra HP would you? Two weeks later you find out you warped your heads, but some guy said on the internet you weren't technically in the overheating zone nothing is going to happen.
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
I second this too

From what I've learned so far in my degree and as a junior dev, this option is risky

I've tried this "mod" and the phone does gets hot. Disabled it and moved on.

I'll prefer a good cpu governor than non thermal control
[G2 General] Jhon998:
EDIT: European is same as international.
[G2 General] stefan063:
As time tells us... By now... Different variants reacts different... Don't know why exactly but that is what it is... For every (most - 90%) G2 International version as mine was,this MOD was clearly OK,without higher temperatures and no risk of damaging device. No one is stupid that much,that if device gets way to hot to turn this setting back to OFF or to turn device first,let it rest for few mins and than turn it back on and reverse the whole process... Also "When you do get 10 hp more with you changed thermostat and push your car to the limits,you will watch every vital signal from the car incl. water temperature. And when you see big difference in water temp. before and after this tuning of thermostat,and it is not good,you will also reverse whole process of installation and put stock thermostat" Clear enough :good: :cool:
[G2 General] ciristo:
LG G3

Come far riconoscere il G3 dalla LG pc suite ?

E dove scarico i driver ?

grazie
[G2 General] 60nine:
english is the default language here on xda
[G2 General] Blaster1984:
For ya'll who want to try this, don't bother, I tested for 20 days and its the same shi... Same lag, same everything! I put it back to normal.... not improvement here! and beside you get the chance of damaging your phone!
[G2 General] nick_862003:
I did these following things and got the lag removed.

Goto developer options. (If u dont see any such options tap on build no a couple of times and it will be visible in settings)

- Window animation scale - change value to 0.5

- Transition animation scale - 0.5

- Animator duration scale - 0.5

Let me know if it works for u guys..!
[G2 General] Vlad Paul:
I know this, but thank you anyway. Working fine.
[G2 General] AvxSfx:
this mod is battery monster :)
[G2 General] Raymonf:
This isn't a mod, it's a hand warmer.
[G2 General] foxracer89:
Hello Guys,

Im not sure, if its correct thread but it's most certainly related. I have issue with phone's performance. I mean when even playing simple games like subway surfers, hill climb racing, g2 is skipping frame every few seconds. It doesnt happen on tab pro or s3. But it did happen on my htc evo3d. I dont know if the problem is qualcomm related but my exynos powered devices dont have such issue (being much weaker in day2day performance). Can anyone please help me to solve the problem. Im currently running cloudyg3 rom, but i guess on every rom i run i had similar observation. I also dont think its because of throttling as it happens always.
[G2 General] vinay_bunty:
does this eats a ram,my ram is 400mb after enabling this, before i used to get at 600-700mb all the time.

do this really affect improve perfomance, seems unchanged to me, how to identify the performance....?, before & after this mod
[G2 General] KoulisHHH:
Worked like charm for my G2 mini. Thanks
[G2 General] piaa_nissan:
The latest Sprint update must've removed this thermal mod in the menu as mine doesn't have the option of turning it off.
[G2 General] DrNugu:
Works great for me

Just flipped this switch today on my unmodified Korean (f320K) G2.

My Antutu benchmarks went from 35500 - 37500.

Further, the camera isn't laggy anymore

I'll take it! :)

Thanks.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
seriously, how the f*ck do you guys get lag on this beast of a phone?mine works perfectly, even when i was on stock rom (im on the G3 optimus rom now) and its flawless..
[G2 General] getclikinagas:
Exactly :confused:
[G2 General] kevin1061:
I just got my LG this month (actually a G3, but my wife has a G2). Is there a code for U.S. Cellular branded phones?

thanks!
[G2 General] wulsic:
Yes I don't know which model you have but check this thread from Stefan for the G3 so you can see all the codes:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/mod-root-rid-lag-g3-t2819365

Basically the last number is the number of your phone model. Hope this could solve your problem
[G2 General] sagor1:
?

Is that affect on the battery life?
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Logic would say your battery life would be affected. Your CPU is working harder to reduce the Lag, so it will suck more battery. :silly:
[G2 General] sagor1:
Thanx

Thanx 4 the reply
[G2 General] stefan063:
Not necessary. Depends on what you are doing on your phone.
[G2 General] evolucion8:
Regarding this mod

I did this mod with my LG G2 with CloudyG2 3.3 and the score in Antutu almost stayed the same, but in terms of overall performance with the GUI and the camera, it is noticeable snappier, the battery life suffers a little, specially on idle, before I used to get at home from work with 64% and now I do at 56% but it is worthy.

I also did my own investigation regarding the throttling and it work as the following.

If you enable Thermal Daemon and disable High Temp Property, the CPU will still throttle like normal at around 60C. and 1.2-1.5GHz and will shutdown if overheats.

But if you disable Thermal Daemon and Enable High Temp property, it will take longer to throttle and reach as high as 70C before it downclocks itself to 1.5GHz but won't shut down.

If you combine both by enabling them, it will never throttle down the CPU, I tortured the CPU with CPUBurn and monitored the frequency and it can reach as high as 103C on all cores, for some reason, the core 2 once it reaches 108 it will go into sleep mode and turn itself off and in half a second it will turn on again running at full speed for another half a second and then jumping from 92C to 108C and doing the same thing again and again. The phone does not feel hot to the touch but seems that heat does not dissipate heat effectively, still leaps and bounds better than the Nexus 5 which would throttle down instantly. But definitively the heat dissipation needs improvement, may be doing some thermal compound mod or something similar like with the LG G3 and Nexus 4.
[G2 General] RegKilla:
Then don't ask!
[G2 General] waqas81:
What actually this OPTION do to phone to make it LAG free
[G2 General] FlorianSSJ:
I don't think this is a good thing to do in our phones... IMHO its better to deal with some lags then some damaged cpu's...
[G2 General] avercros:
Anyway, it's a cheap and old phone.
[G2 General] stefan063:
If you do both you will get it :)
[G2 General] Raheelawan:
I just buy g2 (800) have 4.4.2,after 3 day my phone starts flickring, and when I restart its the same, then I reset my phone and erase everything,, it works... and now I also remove or force stopped weather app and turned on the temperature property... its working now... I hope it works now properly... bcuz I love this phone... thanks everyone
[G2 General] warpunk_24:
Do you know the meaning of every code in hidden menu? What they are for ?
[G2 General] el etro:
I live in Brazil. over than 35ºC temperature in the summer. I fear to use.

Of course i understand nothing about phones....
[G2 General] di3cbl:
It seems that the lag in the camera is gone after turning this on. Can anyone confirm this?
[G2 General] canecbr600:
In dialer ur doing 3845#*800# right...
[G2 General] v2.2v:
I can :)
[G2 General] jesusdavid:
I got it fellas and yes it is running fast.
[G2 General] v2.2v:
here is hoping this isnt a placebo effect and also that doesnt reduce battery! If all is well...then cheers to OP for the tip and the tremendous help :victory:
[G2 General] sacredsoul:
If you switch of CPU throttling due to high temp, your CPU will be running at high speeds most of the time. Which by common sense equates to higher battery drain.

I am using Nova and it is as zippy as ever. ;)
[G2 General] soapinmouth:
Isn't Verizon model VS980? What is the vice for Verizon?
[G2 General] dajmanjt:
Ummm you can do the same thing by enabling cpu temperature throttling using trickster mod, if you have root of course. It's default is off. Does the same thing as turning the throttle on through the service menu. And fyi mine was better upping the threshold values of when cores ramp up instead of turning on the throttle. Don't really understand why the phone is shipped with the throttle off... every phone I ever owned had the throttle default on.
[G2 General] sacredsoul:
My understanding is the throttle is already on by default and you have to disable it to get rid of lag apparently.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Nova makes any phone made somewhere around 2012 and beyond zippy as ever, so what's your point?
[G2 General] m0ngstr0us:
Hail Singaporean G2 Superuser!! :good:

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And guys. You can turn off Animations for a sleekier performance.
[G2 General] noppoer2:
Yea, if you read it says in the hidden menu High temperature porperty OFF and you must click on it and turn it on, that means that you turn throtteling off.
[G2 General] sacredsoul:
My point is, if people think the LG launcher is lagger, switch to Nova and profit.
[G2 General] android404:
...and turning thermal throttling off on this beast because it's laggy seems utterly ridiculous to me.
[G2 General] Hellscythe:
except for that bit where your phone gets too hot and it doesnt throttle down.
[G2 General] chronicfathead:
Surely if your phone gets too hot because you have removed the protection it wont damage your phone.

If we get UV settings in a custom kernel, we can make it run fast for longer.

I'm not seeing any lag running all sorts of apps in the background.
[G2 General] imucarmen:
for verizon users...

the hidden menu appears to not be accessible on our versions. I used pimp my rom and other methods to try and access the hidden menu and though it does bring it up, as soon as it shows it says "this aplication isn't available for your phone" and then goes back to the default menu. I'm not a developer so I have no idea what I might could do to access it. For whatever reason verizon has blocked us from using the hidden menu. I'm sure a dev could figure out how to remove that block.
[G2 General] amokkx:
There already is a kernal that supports UV.

Check G2 Original Android Development.
[G2 General] nwijma:
Strange thing is that even though swiping between homepages and within app drawer is much faster with Nova, it creates more lag than the stock launcher on my G2.
[G2 General] stefan063:
Confirmed! Thx for feedback... Especially in LOW light!
[G2 General] stefan063:
Yes it will stay that way,until you turn it OFF again...
[G2 General] imucarmen:
perhaps a build prop value change

I was wondering if this feature can be turned on and off through a build prop editor. Since us verizon users can't access the easy way to disable this, maybe someone knows if there is a way to do it through editing a build prop value...
[G2 General] ock:
You mean there was thermal throttling without this tweak, even when just snapping photos?
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
Tried it.

After reboot data didn't work until I turned it off again

Here is the screenie of the error I get:
[G2 General] Wonderwouldyou:
Instantly notice a bit of extra zip after reboot.

Thanks
[G2 General] OctoberNexus:
Scrolling in apps finally isn't all sputtery seems like LG was a little overaggressive with this, not the whole feature necessarily just their implementation/tuning of it.

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] sil0:
I used 3845#*803# to access mine (LG G2 Bell Canada version).

Before this mod UI was very zippy but after doing this i can confirm it is even zippier/snappier D:

Some noticeable differences for me (i have gone back and forth with this tweak On and Off a few times to verify):

- knock on feature seems more responsive now (i can do faster interval between taps and the phone wakes faster, if that makes sense)

- while multitasking, things are even snappier/more responsive than they were before

- Menu navigation is even snappier than it was before

- Overall Loading of pictures (eg. album art, picspeed wallpaper pic refreshes) seem to be faster/enhanced

Will see if/how this affects battery life vs the upfront performance benefits (i doubt it will have a noticeable impact on battery).

- As far as heat output, i have noticed no differences in heat output with the phone under normal use (have not tried gaming, benchmarking, etc) will test more.

Great tip, Thanks!
[G2 General] sealava:
thanks for sharing your expereince:good:

hope you keep us posted ... i'll be waiting for your info ;)
[G2 General] Jduncan312:
how can i get this to work on verizon?
[G2 General] zhzaen:
Bump on verizon question
[G2 General] HassanM:
My friend has it... Will definitely try on it....
[G2 General] kenny17430:
I can definetly confirm its faster, when suing knock on, unlocking or using several apps. I feel like I have a brand new phone again :p
[G2 General] cheami:
Didn't someone say that trickstermod has an option to do this exact thing? Assuming it would work on Verizon.
[G2 General] Synthetickiller:
You hit the nail on the head. Knock knock now feels like it should. :good:

Now I just have to convince the GF to do this to her G2, lol.

Thanks!
[G2 General] Jduncan312:
i see temp control is that the same thing?
[G2 General] ipguy:
If this resolves lag issues why wasn't this implemented by default by LG? Do they not know there own phones ? Just asking.
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
Does playing heavy games will do any harm to the phone/cpu?
[G2 General] instigator008:
Has anyone found an app that will read the CPU temp sensor? I'd like to monitor temps for obvious reasons!

Update: Trickster provides CPU temp readings
[G2 General] pimfram:
Everyone asking about Verizon, we don't have this in our menu. Access it by dialing ##PROGRAM980 and enter 00000 when it asked for a code. Our menu is very limited.
[G2 General] trikotret:
At least my phone shows rooted in that hidden menu

Sent from my VS980 4G now Free
[G2 General] gotwillk:
so basically this can't be done with verizon versions?
[G2 General] OctoberNexus:
Not putting there horrible skin on top of Android also reduces lag I mean c'mon you think they give a ****?

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 General] EVOme:
Does nothing when i enter those numbers on my dialer.
[G2 General] Gimic26:
Using TricksterMod to enable temperature throttle seems to speed things up quite a bit on my VS980 though it could just be my imagination as I thought we were trying to disable it which is how it comes by default.
[G2 General] ILLHYHL:
i'm still confused with this.

so by turning 'high temperature property off' on in hidden menu, would try to keep the cpu cool, keeping the system smoother/lag-free when it gets too hot? and maybe improve the battery life?

i can't seem to find any, but is there any disadvantages turning this feature on?

for example, what would happen if i run really massive app for a long time?

i'm very confused :(

someone help meh
[G2 General] android404:
My wild guess is that there's a disadvantage. If the only thing this setting did was making your device laggy, it probably wouldn't be there in the first place. Since turning this on means turning "throttling when to hot" off i assume it can have negative consequences for your device under certain conditions. But then again I don't know what I'm talking about...

Personally I would never go into a hidden menu to turn off the "protect my device when it gets to hot" - mode. maybe because my device isn't laggy, maybe because I accept what others see as laggy as normal.

Edit: I did btw try it for half an hour some days ago and my experience is the same as for most: "this phone is the latest in technology, it was freaking fast before, maybe it's a little bit faster now but that might just add well be a placebo." .
[G2 General] ILLHYHL:
i think the name of this setting is confusing people. when you say go into a hidden menu to turn off the mode, you mean turn it on :(?

because the name of the mode is "high temperature property off"

ugh. i don't know whan i'm talking about anymore.

i need some sleep :(

thx for your info tho XD
[G2 General] stickmage:
Do you some sort of message if it worked after reboot?

I don't notice any difference. Knock knock is still knock knock knock. So annoying...
[G2 General] android404:
No. You can go back to the menu and check.
[G2 General] stickmage:
Ya I checked and it's still on. But please claimed knock improved so
[G2 General] marmotash:
When charging the phone go too hot and have reboots

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 usando Tapatalk now Free
[G2 General] Ajoli:
Getting invalid MMI code on 802..
[G2 General] albundy9999:
Have you seen any negative or side effects yet?
[G2 General] sil0:
i have seen none as of yet, however someone did mention their phone rebooted while charging, curious if they were using wall charger or pc to charge, and if they are running stock rom, but i have not had one reboot and/or app crash thus far.
[G2 General] marmotash:
Running stock rom (10a), original wall charger, in 10 minutes phone is very hot and then reboots.

Sorry for my poor english.

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 now Free
[G2 General] fineazbro:
well my data stop working, Gmail stop refreshing
[G2 General] sil0:
Well my recommendation would be to test the phone charging with this feature back to its default setting and see if the phone acts any different or still does the same thing, and let us know.

I have not seen any charging issues so far myself.
[G2 General] marmotash:
In default settings i have no reboots

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 now Free
[G2 General] xstahsie:
I have the Verizon variant. After using Trickster MOD app to change the "Temperature Throttle" to "ON", it added a ".nomedia" file to my internal storage causing apps to not be able to read data (e.g. Pictures, MP3, alerts, ring tones, etc.). Of course, removing this file resolved the issue. This occurred on Oct 13.

Also, this morning (Oct 14), I was not able to record audio... Something to do with the microphone not initializing. Reboot fixed the issue.

Starting to think this may not be a good idea after all.

Thoughts anyone?
[G2 General] stefan063:
What version of G2 do you have ((VERIZON),sorry didnt see))? It is tested thorough on G2 D802... No problems at all. Dont know with other variants ... D803,... Because I own D802>>>
[G2 General] xstahsie:
I read that inputting 3845#*80x# does not work on the Verizon variant. Perhaps that's why you personally have not seen any issues. I am stuck with Trickster MOD until someone figures out how to enable this using some code similar to the aforementioned code.
[G2 General] seadersn:
you can edit build.prop for example. add

persist.sys.high_temp_off=true

or run

setprop persist.sys.high_temp_off true

in terminal emulator.
[G2 General] somemadcaaant:
After turning it in I can't get back into the menu, just gives me invalid mmi also.

Edit if u get this msg typing it in try a copy and paste instead, works.
[G2 General] imucarmen:
Thanks!

thank you. I mentioned a few days that there must be a build prop line we could edit or add and finally someone has verified that for me. thank you :]
[G2 General] gotwillk:
would setting my governor to performance give me the same "lag free" results? seems like it would.
[G2 General] MasK:
Well frankly speaking, I don't think I saw any improvements at my side. If any, I think my knockOn response became worse..
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
Well I had no lag in last two days since I've enabled it. But I don't know if it's healthy to the phone....
[G2 General] BentCleanson:
Hi. I was wondering about the lcd always on function in settings. I don't remember if it was lcd always on or lcd always off. What is the difference? Someone?
[G2 General] seadersn:
try it, doesn't harm :D
[G2 General] BentCleanson:
I did and i didn't see any difference :P
[G2 General] seadersn:
looks like it resets screen off timer to 2secs, no matter what's chosen... thought it should be very fast timer or "lifetime screen on mode"
[G2 General] purpleraintoxicity:
Maybe it's related to the" screen on while you look at the screen" function..

Maybe when it's off the screen will turn off while you still looking.

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Btw, prove me wrong (I really wish)

But I've notice two major things when I change this MOD back to default:

1.sometime I have micro lags, like a key in keyboard takes some more time to be inputted after typed.

2. Battery life seems way better without it.
[G2 General] bjc112:
I have been running with it for days not noticing any negative effects on device functions or battery life. Seems fine when charging.. No warmer than normal.. I guess I'll keep it enabled or off or whatever and report back....
[G2 General] drkow19:
Gonna give this a shot on my Verizon G2. Changing the thermal control in a kernel app doesn't seem to do anything.

EDIT: First game test passed, with it never veering away from 60 fps. Antutu benchmark still over 35,000, not much change. Phone CPU temp 147 degrees F after 5 minutes, YIKES! My HTC Rezound was at this temp all the time though while playing games, so its not that bad.
[G2 General] seadersn:
problem is, you need root for that :( so this doesnt really meet the aim of this thread (non root methods, sry about that :D), but it should work anyway :)
[G2 General] drkow19:
Yep, for Verizon you would need root. It does get rid of the lag, especially switching between apps or turning phone on, and during app running it is just infinitely smooth. It seems to me that LG put some additional thermal throttling, but it interferes too often. I'm wondering if there is any real thermal protection built in to the Qualcomm processor though? I'm sure it could be finely tweaked with a good custom kernel, and using the above build.prop line in a rom. I should get into kernel development, if I wasn't busy as crap in grad school. Heh, maybe I could do a thesis on it, I mostly study processor design.
[G2 General] kenny17430:
I have been using this "hack' for the past 3 days and I have noticed an imrpovment in performances but decrease in battery life.
[G2 General] m0ngstr0us:
Badly decreased! :( Turn back off and let's see how it goes.
[G2 General] s1mpd1ddy:
I've been getting the same battery life. .. 6hrs screen time over 24 hrs .

I've been using this trick for a few days as well
[G2 General] m0ngstr0us:
Turned back off.

Differences;

With Temperature On.

With Temperature Off.

See the 'Expected Time to Use'.

I know you cant really believe in 200hrs+. But went down to 30+ hrs after it analysed for a while.