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[Nexus 5 General] p51d007:
battery

I have a note1, running official 4.12 with a different kernel. Battery isn't bad, but I usually never let it get below 50% without at least tapping it a little bit during the day.

Perhaps part of the reason (if it holds true, these aren't official specs) of the smaller battery is maybe 4.4 is a little less power

hungry, or the SOC inside the device, the memory etc, consume less power?
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Of course! I'm all set with multiple cheap battery banks strategically placed at work, in the car, and in my briefcase for those times I need the battery boost.

As cheap as $5.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RED-2600mah..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item485af1789d
[Nexus 5 General] Nexus⁴ever:
Nope i will defenitly buy one *-*
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
I agree with you 200%.

I currently have a GS3 with a 3,000mAh Samsung extended battery and I can do the all day. I was not able to do with 2100 stock.

If 2300 will be confirmed and if they'll not be able two do some crazy optimisation, I'll get a G2 or Z1. My concern is that AOSP on these two devices is zero at the moment.

As 64gb is out of discussion as well as sd card espansion, USB OTG will be very important as 32GB are not enough for me!
[Nexus 5 General] jonup:
Agree on the way a phone should be used and my usage pattern is similar to yours. I can hardly get through a day on a single charge and I would be out of juice by 6-7pm. However, battery life is no concern to me (and many others) at all. I mean, how far are you from an outlet at all times? I have a charger in the office, in my car, in my briefcase and on several strategic locations at home. We switch phones pretty much on an annual basis. The battery won't die in one year regardless of your abuse. So charge your phone whenever you can and ask for smaller batteries for a smaller lighter phones. Also from what I have seen for G2 battery life, at 2300mah the N5 might have enough juice for you and I to go through a day on a single charge.
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
Yep.

I am more sad, because the N5 is based off the G2, which has a 3,000mAh battery stock. Of all things to cut back on, and not keep the same between the two phones, don't let it be the battery.

What is Googles reasoning behind changing the battery from the G2 in the Nexus 5 ?

Oh well, looks like G2 here I come. And development will pick up big on that phone. Its only been out a few weeks, and the international G2 just came out last week.

Let's see a Nexus 5 ROM posted on the G2, since they are so similar.
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
Is the G2 bootloader locked?

Any way the best AOSP rom is always 4-6 month behind Nexus updates!
[Nexus 5 General] jonup:
N5 is over and inch narrower and and nearly 3 inches shorter. Maybe it has to do with lack of real estate. ;) Besides if we deduct from G2 we should expect 7.5-8h sot.:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 5 General] Zorachus:
CM and AOKP ROM's are pretty quick to release new builds, based off the latest Android release. Its not a 4 month wait, maybe 4 weeks worse case.

The G2 is unlocked on T-Mobile, and International version. The ATT version has an exploit out, and said to be easy to root and the work around hasn't stopped custom ROM development.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
I'll be waiting for nexus 6.
[Nexus 5 General] hbksabhi:
g2 or 5s ......own mba 2013
[Nexus 5 General] JCreazy:
I just hope that if the battery is this size, that it will at least be able to take a 2.1 amp charge.
[Nexus 5 General] Sarsoman:
It won't affect my decision at all. The battery life on my N4 lasts the entire day on a full charge with moderate on-screen usage, plus I'd rather them sacrifice battery life and megapixels in order to have a quad core beast with a 1080p HD display for the low price of $299.

I'll be buying the Nexus 5 day one, can't wait!
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
I would buy it even if the battery was the same as the N4. All these battery nerds are getting way too worried about a phone they haven't even used yet. I guarantee that we will not care if you cry about the 2300 battery, have fun in the N4 forum, we will be here, the future.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
The future is technically A57/53, 64bit, U-HD, etc...But sure, let's call N5 the "future". If I wanted future I probably would bet on the faster A7x chip. Sadly androids can't use it too...
[Nexus 5 General] Saturn1217:
No. 2300mah will not stop me.

According to anandtech the lg g2 gets 7.9 hrs of battery life on lte web browsing. If you just reduce this proportionally the nexus 5 could get 6 hrs web browsing on LTE which is like double what my gnex gets.

Some people clearly spend every waking minute doing everything they can think of on their phone. The Nexus 5 probably won't work for those people but I expect it to be competitive with the last batch of mainstream flagships, aka the HTC one and galaxy s4. I think Google wanted a thin phone and just like the nexus 7 2013 they reduced the battery size to achieve this goal but only up to the point where battery life would be acceptable for like 90% of users.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
I'm getting it no matter what battery it has...even solar! :D
[Nexus 5 General] laod:
I'm definitely getting one, my current phone has a 1500 mah battery... so 2300 is a major upgrade for me
[Nexus 5 General] _jussyy:
Yes

:good: YESSIR! Been waiting on this since first hearing about it, never owned a Nexus device and currently own a Samsung Galaxy Young S6310L, hate Touchwiz & looking for the best stock experience and to start with Android 4.4? Great deal and this phone has a 1300mAh battery so a 2300/3000mAh upgrade should be great, going for the 32gb version which is rumored to have a 3000mAh battery so yes :D

Looking forward to see what developers has in store for it and maybe I can become one someday :D
[Nexus 5 General] lolcopter:
which has a GIGANTIC 2600 mAh battery

lol some of you guys are ridiculous. i'm sure the battery will be fine, if not keep a micro usb cable by the computer at work. highly doubtful battery life will be a deal breaker on this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] trsix:
x2

X2. That is all.
[Nexus 5 General] hamad138:
Something is wrong my brothers lg 2 last twice as my nexus 4( maxbe more) only with 40% larger battery

But he has 5,2 display and s800

I think Nexus destiny is always to have low battery power
[Nexus 5 General] 2l8:
With how much screen time? It's the only thing that counts for me. I only use my phone for Web browsing, news feeds, social apps. Maybe 1 short phone call a day and no gaming. Screen on time is everything for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Nabfy:
The battery life should be fine, snapdragon 800 isn't so power hungry beast as it sounds :) So 2300 mAh isn't going to stop people from buying the N5, look at apple and their phones, outdated hardware doesn't stop them from breaking sale records.
[Nexus 5 General] eak666:
I definitely going to buy it. I think i going to get almost the same screen time and less battery drain over night than my s4 active..

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[Nexus 5 General] zwodziarz:
Nexus 4

Got a Nexus4 and I see no reason of buying Nexus5 because of just 200mah added. I'm not believing it would drain only that amount of juice and keep running as long as N4
[Nexus 5 General] Nexorce:
Yes, only 2600, but you can replace the battery. I have 2x 2600mah and a docking station at work, which can loading smartphone and second battery at same time :)
[Nexus 5 General] MrPhilo:
You can always downclock your CPU at 1.5Ghz running at 800mV ;), remember 2.3Ghz is already at 975mV or something, so when custom kernel comes, we can expect to undervolt it to around 900mV for the 2.3Ghz and maybe 750mV for the 1.5Ghz etc ;), so battery life will be a lot better than on Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] xda23:
Are the batteries in the nexus phones removable?
[Nexus 5 General] bilago:
Never have been... never will be.

Thats why I have this bad boy:

Anker 3E 10000mAh Battery Pack
[Nexus 5 General] HarmonyFlame:
Samsung nexus phones did have removable batteries..
[Nexus 5 General] PHug:
A brick?

Have you ever seen or held a brick?
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
I can't agree more on both!

Adding a 3,000mAh battery and a microsd slot would have increased manufacturing cost by 20€ max!
[Nexus 5 General] stktd:
Will be investing in one of these for the festival season, just hate it when my battery runs out on day 1 or 2 , other than that battery isn't really a problem for me, like many others said I've got chargers placed everywhere car, bedroom etc etc...
[Nexus 5 General] andrewNY:
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. Nothing is going to stop me from buying a Nexus 5!

I also have an external 12,000 ma battery, so I'm not worried about a lack of power.
[Nexus 5 General] nomancoolboy:
Android just need better optimization for battery life ...!

2300 mah is enough for properly optimized OS ..
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
He likely has small hands so the G2 is perceived as a brick.

Sent with Mako-no-ōkami
[Nexus 5 General] bilago:
Their customer service is outstanding, i had a charging issue with my first one, and they sent me a second one the same day I called, with a return label free of charge.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
ever heard of a metaphor?
[Nexus 5 General] maxsum:
I hope HPm will give me a shock.

But it should be fine if you undervoltage & underclock since we don't need such a high performance in daily life.
[Nexus 5 General] Jgjd691995:
Nope, if anything ill just install an advance kernel and make a good governor for it.
[Nexus 5 General] woaisusu:
no
[Nexus 5 General] montbazon:
Nope. It doesn't matter.

But It can make me buy portable battery.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] busab:
This is probably nothing but Phonearena just a little while ago tweeted that the Nexus 5 could indeed have a 3000mah battery. Unfortunately the link they posted doesn't work.
[Nexus 5 General] Faux Carnival:
Why not put in a 3000 mAh battery? Just increase the price ffs.
[Nexus 5 General] ericdabbs:
Because the design of the phone does not support it. The Nexus phone history shows that they have never released two variants of the Nexus phone with different battery capacities. Heck forget about Nexus brand, no OEM has ever done two variants of the same phone model where the larger internal storage capacity has a bigger battery and this because having a larger internal storage capacity has nothing to do with needing more power.

It was just some bogus ridiculous rumor that someone leaked up trying to get some bait and let me tell you..all the tech websites got caught hook line and sinker. Even PhoneArena has said that they don't have much confidence in their source but somehow this rumor has evolved from rumor to fact which I do not understand.

The FCC docs have disproven the mention of any 3000 maH battey in existence. The only reason why the 3000 maH battery came up was that since LG was making the Nexus 5 and the LG G2 uses a 3000 maH battery that they would use the same battery as the LG G2 which is not true at all.
[Nexus 5 General] shure2:
At the end of the day the Nexus isn't targeted at Joe Bloogs (general consumers). It's my belief it's still more of a developers phone (like the original nexus). If they release the nexus 5 with both of the monkeys nuts then it'll piss off the vendors, which Google doesn't wasn't to do.

The main chunk of their earnings come from software related revenue so the already heavily subsidised nexus 5 probably isn't at the top of their priorities anyway. We are just all dreamers who want cutting edge everything at a lower price than the the extortion most companies are charging now for a sim free device.
[Nexus 5 General] Panzerapple:
I thought my Toro Gnex had an 1850 mah battery and 32 gigs and the International version had 1750 mah battery and 16 gigs and the batteries were not interchangeable. I might be wrong though.

And I highly doubt we will see a 3000 mah battery in the five.
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
Maybe that was an old tweet that the tweeted again by mistake? its the only explanation i can find :confused:
[Nexus 5 General] NinjaKenZen:
No way will a 2300mah battery stop my from buying this phone. It wasn't even an issue until someone made it one. Real world performance-wise, it should be adequate.
[Nexus 5 General] Lucke:
QTF... i don't need my phone to last 4 days without charging, especially if that would ruin the sleekness of the phone in general... i love how thin my N4 is, and i would hate if it were any thicker (my battery currently lasts me ~27-28 hours on a charge anyways)
[Nexus 5 General] CrashTestDroid:
I'd take the 2300mAh, unlocked bootloader, and my choice of current ROMs Nexus 5 rather than a G2 running LG's 4.2.2 bloatware. The N4 did pretty good on 2100mAh and S4 Pro chipset. Qualcomm's S800 in the N5 should last a lot longer than the N4 could.
[Nexus 5 General] mailboy1412:
2300mAh isn't a problem at all. I got my chargers in car, home, work. I want my phone slim and easy to hold.

If you have problem with battery, you can undervolt and underclock this beast down.
[Nexus 5 General] Maroon Mushroom:
I really hope we get a 3000mah option.

It's a shame because the GS4 has a 2600mah.

I'd pay an extra $100 for the extra 700mah. Even if it didn't have any additional storage.
[Nexus 5 General] stktd:
Cheers buddy!
[Nexus 5 General] -viper-:
+1 on that...

Sent from my neXus⁴
[Nexus 5 General] Donnie Sins:
+2
[Nexus 5 General] cynosure4sure:
Any idea if Nexus 5 will have GRAM similar to LG G2? it will be a good battery saver
[Nexus 5 General] adriangb:
Depends on price... If it's =>$400 and battery life isn't any better than the N4, I'll probably stick with my N4 or get an on-contract 5S and sell out. I'd easily pay $400 if it does come with 32GB and a 3000mah battery
[Nexus 5 General] ericdabbs:
No. Case closed

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Yeah good luck with a 3000 mah version. It aint happening and the docs prove it.
[Nexus 5 General] javskies:
where is your proof of no gram por favor?
[Nexus 5 General] cynosure4sure:
would you like to quote a "source" on that?
[Nexus 5 General] Tricepz:
I really hope there will be a version with another 700 mah, i wouldn't mind adding another 50$ for it (dont care for another 16 gb)

I wonder why Google reduces the battery to 2300... i dont get this move (with all of the teaking - franco + different roms + UV) on heavy load i still cant last the day.
[Nexus 5 General] stennett:
A Google play edition of LG's G2, with the buttons on the side not the back.(Originally what I was expecting the Nexus 5 to be, until I realised I was expecting too much from a phone that will cost a significant amount less.) is the only thing that will stop me buying a Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
Common, come over to g2 already =). You know it has everything you want. Big screen, big battery, gram. Last night release of official CM 10.2 with android 4.3.1 should be another icing on the cake.

G2 could be everything nexus 5 should have been.

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
I badly want the N5 but the CM support is for me increasing the possibility of getting the G2.
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
With in a day also, more [ROM] threads are popping up like magic mushroom. Big names like Pa, aokp, aosp, etc. You guys should really check out the development thread of g2.

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] SpirosRonto:
Well if it consumes less power i will buy it,
[Nexus 5 General] mithab:
After having an horrible experience with xperia s, its sort of a deal breaker for me. I'm thinking about getting note 3 as it has a huge battery. Lets see how long it actually lasts after release :D
[Nexus 5 General] cynosure4sure:
A rational way to guess battery life would be looking at a phone with a same size battery, screen size and chipset.....

in this case Xperia Z comes close 2330mAh, 5 inch, snapdragon 600.

please keep in mind screen on xperia is TFT not IPS but i don't think there is much difference comparison wise....major factor would be snapdragon 800...

in xperia z forums some extreme guys got 7 hours screen on time over 19h usage so.................not bad

please share existing phones that may offer a better guess :highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] ehcool:
I remember seeing a few reviews of the moto x which I think had a 2300mAH they said that it got a full day with super heavy use and if Google can optimize 4.4 to be more battery friendly and integrate some of the moto x's black magic a 2300mAH could be enough
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
Personally, I know how often I read some guy posting on forums about some 7 hours screen on time and always wondered how the hell did he do that.

I could never get that kind of battery life. On my Galaxy Nexus I consistently gets around 2 hours of screen time. While other would boast getting 3 to 4 hours.

Even now on my G2, I could only gets around 4+hours screen. But compare to my old GN this is slightly doubling my battery life.

May be it is due to my carrier or my personal usage. But I could easily say that with g2, comparatively to those who are moving from GN, you will gets huge improvement over your regular phone.

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] daddioj:
i went ahead and rebought my G2 first one did eat battery. but this one is golden out of the box no charge 80% i got over 5 close to 6 hours screen time. what are you doing to your phone lmao
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
Don't know. Usage are different for each of us. Regardless of what phone I use, I always gets ****ty screen on time.

That being said G2 is best yet with over 4. =)

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] MightySashiman:
Must also depend on the mobile signal strengh in your area...
[Nexus 5 General] liveMike:
no but its a bit of a downer. would at least like the option to upgrade.
[Nexus 5 General] kilometers4:
I just bought a 12000mah power pack for 17$, hopefully that'll suffice :)
[Nexus 5 General] GunPowder55555:
Nope
[Nexus 5 General] thas5:
I also only get 2 hours of screen on time on my Galaxy Nexus. If I tweak it with custom kernels & what not, I can maybe get a half hour more at the cost of performance. It drives me crazy cause I'm always charging it. Battery life is a huge concern of mine which is why I'm also considering the Note 3, but not getting the updates on time will drive me nuts, so I keep trying to remind myself of that.
[Nexus 5 General] kcharng:
I tweaked my GN as well. With roms, kernels, trickster mod, sticking with 2G, freezing app, turning off location and sync etc etc. And I gets around 2+ screen on with GN.

For this the thread to continue to exist and active. One of the reason is because a lot of people is moving from GN with bad battery life.

-LG G2
[Nexus 5 General] Eluveitie:
I don't think the battery capacity will prevent me from buying the N5, but I am afraid the battery will have problems keeping up with the 1080p screen..
[Nexus 5 General] mithab:
Might as well get a feature phone then.
[Nexus 5 General] hamad138:
Nexus 4 poorest battery life + ****tiest camera , i think its the most ****tiest camera on android?-€
[Nexus 5 General] Manbot27:
Moto x has dual core instead of quad, no black magic involved.
[Nexus 5 General] kanwal236:
The Nexus 4's battery isn't really that bad. Continual use right now at this pace I'd have about 8 hours 20 minutes of screen time. Auto-brightness which sets it at about 20%.

In case anyone is wondering, Paranoid + Faux kernel, all 4 cores, stock frequencies, intellidemand, -75mv undervolting. I expect the 5, with the better built snapdragon 800, kitkat optimizations, and snapdragon 800 optimizations, it should have some pretty good battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] hamad138:
Wtf how u do that!!! I have 150- UV , interactive , franco and no more than 3,5 hours brightness at 50%
[Nexus 5 General] Apoxx:
well sure you can get great batterylife if you turn off all functions, mod the phone like crazy and underclock the CPU. But is it worth it?

Out of the box there is no doubt that the Nexus4 has horrible batterylife, and this is what counts for most users.
[Nexus 5 General] BravoMotorola:
Nope even with all the crazy optimizations battery life is awful. He's doing some kind of trickery because I have almost the exact setup as him except I'm on CM not PA. I use my phone like regular and always get around 4 hours of screen on time. Friends that have this phone get around 3 to 3 and a half. Even with all of the modding, you're not gonna squeeze out that much more sot.
[Nexus 5 General] Luxferro:
It also has a smaller screen, and different type, where when the pixels are black, they are off using no power.
[Nexus 5 General] hagba:
No, will not.
[Nexus 5 General] Janzen254:
No, 2300mAh will not stop me from buying a Nexus 5 because Android 4.4 might use less power, might manage power better, its cheaper than other devices with similar specs and its a Nexus device.
[Nexus 5 General] M0ns73R:
No, I will still buy it, because the battery isn't a deal-breaker for me.
[Nexus 5 General] reignlight:
I'd say buy the phone regardless... You cannot be disappointed. As other have said it will have less drain than the n4 and this has already been widely reported.

If you're a power user just get a small external battery pack from Amazon, eBay or MiniInTheBox on the cheap.

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If you've had the note 2 you may consider the note 3, otherwise get the cousin the optimus g pro which has the snapdragon 600

And you can snag a large internal battery and cover from Amazon for around 50 bones which is like a 9300mah and lasts 3 days under heavy usage based on reviews and users.

This is my second choice as I can podcast all day and be on a vacation without worries. That battery case combo will hurt your hand and pocket however.
[Nexus 5 General] weaselEST:
Yes, I will probably go with LG G2 in the case of small battery. Depends on the camera also a little bit.
[Nexus 5 General] marleyfan61:
If reviewers find that the smaller battery is not giving adequate battery life I will likely get the G2. I'm going to be ditching my landline so my cell will be my only phone. I'm going to need good battery life. I'm hoping the N5 will be optimized for good battery life because I'd prefer it over the G2 at this point.
[Nexus 5 General] LooieENG:
No.

Google could pay the courier to kick me in the nuts when he delivers it, and I'd still buy it.

I want this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] zerosys:
I don't know if this was posted before: Why the ~700 mAh difference between the G2 and Nexus 5 isn't nearly as big as it seems.
[Nexus 5 General] Watcher07:
Ahhh, I see what you did there.

That said, sadly I'd do the same thing, I'm pretty excited to leave my Sprint Gnex for a T-Mo Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] revo66:
I think not, because 4.4 should be better for battery life right? Will wait for some reviews before i decide to buy
[Nexus 5 General] :
Technically the G2 has a removable back in S. Korea, and expandable SD storage.
[Nexus 5 General] Yakuzza123:
only the price will stop me initially or make me buy it, i am used to have a small backup batterie in my pocket
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Every new OS version or new cpu chip claims to be more battery efficient. I am yet to see this proven in real use though. Every phone I get always has the same stats or even worse then the phone I am replacing. Usually it will be on par or slightly better only if the battery is larger. If a newer phone which claims to be more efficient had the same size battery, it would probably give you worse results since the device usually requires more juice to support newer and more powerful features.

When we start seeing 5-6 hours screen on time with regular use and being unplugged for over 24 hours in that time consistently with a 2100-2300mAh battery then I will say we are seeing more battery friendly devices. Until then, we just keep hearing the same stuff every year. I don't care if the device is more powerful, then make a battery large enough to support a full days use with it.
[Nexus 5 General] rohithaip:
Probably not, I'm used to charging once a day