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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rwu:
rom version

here is my rom and radio version:

ROM: T-Mo UK 1.6.2.4 WWE

Eadio: 01.12.10

Maybe the other guy is right, the radio version need to be below 01.13. I think the Rom version on the official T-Mo UK is my version, I don't know where you get the 2. version--is that from the UK T-Mo MDA Pro?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
Now after trying it a few times... now my service shows BLOCKED !!!!

wonder why?

I also noticed that the blackberry client picks up only 15digits of the IMEI to registre & if u look in the settings the IMEI no is a 17 digit no.

Could this also be a problem?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
I have an Imate K-Jam with latest ROM from Imate Website (Windows Mobile 5.0 Build 14847.2.0.0)

I've installed the German T-Mobile BB Connect Client from the Website. The installation process is in German on the handheld but once up and running reverts to English - Phew!

I then installed the BB Desktop Manager which installs in English so no problems there.

I'm already running a Blackberry Device 7230 so I know that my Blackberry service is working.

When I connect the Imate to the PC and start desktop manager is asks me to change the PIN from the old device to the new one. It doesn't allow me to change the PIN, it just tells me that they will be changed. My original PIN no. starts with 201 and the new one starts with 65B.

The first time I tried this I got a connection but now I don't.

I've sat down with the administrator for our Blackberry Corporate Server and we see the PIN change on the administration screen which is great. However, when he selects "User Status" (I think that is the screen), it says that I have an "Illegal PIN number". He has never seen this before.

We(Imate community) are that close to getting this to work. I wonder if the Blackberry.net servers are stopping any codes with 65 in them. I'd be interested to see what other PIN's people are getting. We have a few 61's on our server which work fine.

Until the Blackberry.net servers except these PIN's, I don't think anyone is going to get this to work!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
yes ur right. i think that blackberry is stopping this service because i too have a older blackberry 6230 & my service works on that... but with my O2 MiniS, my new pin sarts with 659B---- & it rejects it.

If i go online & try to put the new PIN & IMEI..it says.....

"The PIN and IMEI provided could not be properly identified."

So i guess they are blocking it. Why is the question & how do we get around it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Does anyone know how to hack the PIN? I could use the PIN off my old Blackberry 7230! Maybe I could get round it that way....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
it cant be hacked.

we only have to wait for BB to accept the PIN's.

My Question: How come it works on Windows Mobile 2003 based phones???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
it works on WM5 devices as well. remember T-Mobile released it for their Wizard (apparently for use on their own network).

Couldnt it be that the combi of IMEI. PIN and operator just is unknown to RIM which causes the illegal PIN message?

BTW has anyone tried Blackberry support??

ie http://www.blackberry.com/knowledge...ckBerry_Built-In.html?nodeid=1099242&vernum=0

I also dropped them the question
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
BTW.. i just tried installing BB client & service on my Nokia 9300... Something is funny here... This is what i did...

1. Installed the latest BB client on my nokia 9300 & went to the settings to turn the service on... i noticed that no PIN was assigned.

2. The service came on & it connected to the BB service & THE B symbol cam on the phone.

3. i went into the settings again & suddenly there was a PIN automatically assigned. Did it come Over The Air? How did it come.. The PIN starts with 638a----

4. i went to the BB web client & changed my PIN & IMEI to the nokia 9300's PIN & IMEI as shown its BB client.... No problems with that. It took it properly.

5. I sent the service book again thru the BB web client.

6. Now my Nokia 9300 is completely configured with werb service book etc... but i still cant get my emails on my phone...

7. I change it all back to my old BB 6230 & everything works fine.

8. Back to N9300.. all configures..but no emails come thru

This obvoiusly means PINs are restricted my RIM cause this N9300 PIN worked & AIRTEL does not support Windows Based phone, so the PIN's generated by it , will not be recognised i guess.

There seems to be no otehr explaination now. I have tried everything now.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Hypermaster,

Why did you change the PIN on the BB Web Client? Didn't it automatically know?

Is this the Entperprise Server version or hosted by an ISP/Mobile Operator?

I'm pretty sure that the PIN is generated by the BB Connect Software and is device specific - a bit like a MAC address. When you start up the BB desktop manager, it recognises this PIN and sends it back to the main Enterprise Server. I also presume it knows who you are by the email address in the Advanced Tab. So on the server it sees xxxx@someaddress.com SEND IT TO PIN No. 63xxxxxxxx device.

When you first assign the PIN, you have to generate an encrytped key by wiggling your mouse around. This is then stored on the BB Server and the handheld device to ensure an encrypted connection.

Just my thoughts which may be complete rubbish!! :shock:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hyper:
i had a problem with my N9300 cause i had loaded thelatest 2.5 version BB client..

once i loaded the older 2.4 version BB clinet, it worked perfectly.

I still dont like the way all emails come to another BB folder.... i simple love the way all SMS's & Email's come to one folder in the BBhandsets..

I think i've going to buy the BB8700g now. :lol:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Nope, it's not PIN's. I just finally got the UK TMo ship ROM installed, loaded BB connect and desktop, and....stunning....connected to my BB Enterprise Server....Hallelujah. RWO was correct ROM 1.6 and Radio 1.12 as per the TMo UK ship download on the ftp area and it's away and running
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hypermaster:
yes it seems to work fine with enterprise, lots of people even in India are useing it with enterprise... but it does not work with blackberry internet service.

thats what my problem is... i dont use enterprise server.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
JoninLA,

#1) How did you get the T Mobile UK ROM onto your Wizard. I thought you were stuck i the same loop as me - latest ROM that has the new CID unlock. I've been trying to downgrade my phone for the last few days but am getting nowhere

#2) Is your PIN the same then as with the old ROM?

#3) If that's the case how on earth can it tell that you have a TMobile ROM - spooky :roll:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Jason, sent you a PM but the routine to unlock is on the lokiwiz thread - install an earlier ROM for your device (i.e. if you have QTEK install the early QTEK custom ROM) and then you can run CID unlock. It seems the issue with CID unlock is ROM related and not hardware related. Once you have unlocked the TMO UK ROM and BB works like a dream.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Robster:
Hi

Daoes ANYONE have Blackberry Connect working on a K-Jam on Vodafone in the UK?

Robin
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
So does this mean that I should be able to flash my Wizard (Cing 8125) with the proper ROM and get BB connect to work on my enterprise server in the USA? If so, which rom file do I need to install?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Duplicate post, sorry
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Kelkin, I'm using a QTEK 9100 flashed with the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe ROM, the German download of BB Connect and BB desktop and TMo USA unlimited Internet and a BB Enterprise server in New York.

It all ran fine on the basic installation (i.e. no tweaks or other software installed). Installed the ROM, installed the BB Connect Client. Installed the desktop, connected the two together and then did connect on the BB Desktop, connected synched and then disconnected, it found the network and just connected over the GPRS and has been going since.

Since then I have put OMAP back on and am running it happily at 240MHz. Have reinstalled SPB Pocket Plus (but for some reason the battery meter along the top of the today screen doesn't show - if anyone knows a fix for that I'd appreciate it) and SPB backup. Tweaked the Edge/GPRS icon and it's now running sweetly downloading email as it comes in.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
Excellent, thanks for the reply. I wanted to make sure someone already had success with this before I tried. Now I'm going to have to play! Thanks :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] thehercman:
JoninLA,

I have been following this thread trying to get BBConnect to work on my TMobile MDA. Your configuration sounds similar to mine so I thought I would see if you had any ideas on this.

I have a BB Enterprise server. I have installed the bbconnect software on the MDA, and used the BB Config for Windows Mobile to redirect mail to the MDA. The problem I have is BB Connect initially connects and then disconnects via GPRS and never starts the activation process. If I view the status using the Blackberry Desktop Redirector the result of the last transaction was illegal handheld pin.

My theory is that T-Mobile does not have the PIN for the MDA setup with data access therefore causing the GPRS connections to fail.

Thoughts?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Have no idea why it works on some and not on others but all I can say is that the TMo UK Ship ROM seems to work fine with it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] thehercman:
Is there a link to download the uk rom image? I'll give it a try.

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile

and you want the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
Weird.. I installed

RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

and

bbconnect_pocketpc_tmo_de_2.1.1.20.exe

and I get "Unable to install. Uncertified system softwre detected"

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Does it matter what radio firmware you are using, I remember reading a different thread where someone said it might? I was hoping to hear more people got this working. I was going to run out this morning and buy one to replace my nokia 9300 :)

Hopefully I can buy it and just bring it back if it doesn't work...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Are you using the MDA style phone or are you trying to use a Cingular 8125 style device. If you have the cingular style phone that may be your problem.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Interesting findings so far:

Imate latest ROM - AKU2 - I can load BB Connect but I get Illegal PIN on corporate BB Server

Imate Original ROM - AKU1 - I can't load the BB Connect software - error around Uncertified System Software

T-Mobile UK ROM - I can load BB Connect software and everything works. Funny thing is I checked the PIN from the Imate ROM AKU2 install and its the same PIN.

So why does the T-Mobile ROM work and the Imate latest not when the PIN's are identical?

Out of interest, my calendar wont sync. Strange. Should have checked that before installing the BB Connect client.

For information only:

T-Mobile Device Information

ROM Version: 1.6.2.4 WWE

ROM Date: 11/15/05

Radio Version: 01.12.10

Protocol Version: 4.0.13.23

ExtROM Version: 1.6.2.105

I'd be interested to see if there is something in the T-Mobile Ext Rom that activates this in someway. I don't know how to make a custom rom, but I'd like to make one with the Imate AKU2 ROM and some parts out of the Ext ROM to see if that works.

Anybody willing to help me?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Glad u got it working Jason. I'm the same, got it working on the TMo UK ship ROM after trying at least three QTEKS and a couple of USA Roms. Would really really like to be able to use it with an AKU2 and preferably the latest QTEK which is rock solid and quick. The TMo ship ROM grinds but then again, BB works so I'll suffer.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
Sounds promising

On wich network are you btw? T-Mobile?

I am using a Qtek aku2 rom (test one) on T-Mobile device on Vodafone network . . . the T-Mobile DE BBClient did install but still i dont have a BB subscription in my company.

Anyway I know there are some cabs in the T-Mobile ext rom (have to check wich one(s) that set certain "TMO"values in the registry , maybe thats the trick to get this T-Mobile BB version working
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
I'm on Vodafone UK.

I've had to go back to the Imate AKU2 as I need my Calendar for work - very important!!

I'm more than willing to try some customisation if someone can assist.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Just out of interest, has anyone trid the BB Connect with the USA stock ROM (RUU_Prodigy_1081002_108_10910_TMO_US.exe) - just wondered I have no inclination at the moment to blow my fifth ROM in a few days.... However, if it does work it would mean that at least two "country" ROMS work. I seem to recall trying it with the latest TMO USA ROM (2.17 I think) and having no luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Who'd like to make a stab at which "cab" in the T-Mobile Extended ROM fixes the BB Connect

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\cusTSK.exe \Windows\T-Mobile.tsk

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-Connection-TMUK-Wizard-Aug08.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMO_EU_UA_051003.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMUK_Cust_Wiz03000100.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_Wiz_NoGPRSAutoattach.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_BeepMode_Longtones.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_TMO_CameraDriverPatch.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_ExtendedROM_Version.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-WapPush-TMO-Wizard-Sep02-1.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_Wiz_TMO_STK.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Customization-TMUK-Wizard-01-04-03Oct05.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-DATEamil-Wizard-TMOUK-04Aug05-DataBase.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CAB-Shortcut-TMOUK-03Oct05.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_Browser_Signed.cab

CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_pIEDefaultPage_Signed.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMO_UK_UXC_Signed.cab

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\WifiTempON.exe

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Signed_WifiSSID.sa.cab

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\WifiTempOFF.exe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wawibu:
If tried many different ROMs. The BB-Client can installed on all images without an error, but it didn't works. The connection will be refused.

I only found one image where the BB-Client works: RUU_Prodigy_1060201_107_11210_TMO_DE_Ship.exe

No files of the extended Rom are installed ! So it must be something direct in the rom. The PIN and IMEI are over all images allways the same.

On my old MDAc the T-Mo BB-Client works fine on all ROM Images. I think that only the combination of PIN and IMEI are verifid by RIM. If this combination is valid the connection will works fine.

I've called the T-Mo Hotline and they told me that the BB-Client needs some parts of the ROM-Image from 12-2005.

Who can help to find out what part of the image the BB-Client need to connect?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
wawibu,

I don't think you are correct.

You say that:

>>I think that only the combination of PIN and IMEI are verifid by RIM. If this combination is valid the connection will works fine.

The PIN and IMEI don't change between ROM versions. The IMEI is fixed anyway - its device specific. And the PIN generated when I had the T-Mobile ROM and the Imate ROM are exactly the same.

What is interesting is that you didn't have the extended ROM loaded and the BB Connect worked. So is it the OS ROM or the Radio ROM?

I wouldn't know where to start with mixing different ROM's!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wawibu:
That's what I mean. The PIN and IMEI are allways the same. I mean that RIM didn't rejected the connection in case of my PIN and IMEI. It must be something in the radio or os.

How can I extract the os and radio files from the whole file? Then I'll try to mix some installtion.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
You can backup the OS and the Radio by using aWizard. I'm out of my depth here now as I have no idea what you do with the backup or what form it even takes. Maybe someone who is good with images can help us?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] emauliscrap:
I've tried to download the files in Edsup's post down on page 1, but can't get them. Are they still available for download?

Cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Wiz:
People, for the last time: BB Connect *only* works on Wizard ROM versions 1.06 and *lower* and *only* on Radio versions 1.12.10 and *lower*.

As long as you stick to the above, the BB Connect client can be installed on IMates, Qteks, MDAs etc ....

(The other point of course being the fact that the client may not work on other providers than T-Mobile, but I cannot verify that since for the time being I am bound to T-Mobile myself)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] emauliscrap:
Bugger..

So my radio (version 1.12.10) is ok, but my rom (1.6.2.4) is too new to try this?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
the T-Mobile os roms are known to be heavily modified by T-Mobile.

a file-to-file comparison between a QTek and T-Mobile rom of comparale versions maybe a solution. Especially files that do exist on T-mbile os rom and do not exist on QTek rom are interesting.

I bet that IF T-Mobile had released a aku2 rom the BBClient would work on that also.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
one other interesing question: Can someone that is using a t-Mobile ROM with NO extended ROM installed and a functional BBClient post a registry export twofold:

1. before BBClient install

2. after BBClient install

Maybe there is a TMO setting in the T-Mobile branded os-rom after all (devices like Himalaya had something like that before)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Wiz,

I understand what you are saying. BUT, we haven't found anybody that has used a different ROM other than a T-Mobile ROM to get this to work. So I think it is more than the OS needs to be 1.06 or less and Radio 1.12 or less.

I find it hard to believe that this is a compatability thing to do with an OS. Surely the program just wouldn't work if it was down to the OS?

Edsub,

I'm going to reload the original T-Mobile ROM tonight without the extended ROM. How do I export the registry in Windows Mobile 5 (I'm good on XP and Solaris but don't know much about WM5!)? Is there a tool a need to load?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wawibu:
Hi Janson,

I always use RegEdit.

Regards,
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] matchtrader:
This might be a dumb question, but would there be any advantage to using BB Connect over MS Activesync with AKU2 push email? My office uses a BB Enterprise Server but also has SP2 activated, thus allowing for push email via ActiveSync so I would have both options available assuming the BB Connect software would work. TIA
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Well, I just installed the tmobile uk rom on my mda, loaded up blackberry connect and the status says service blocked. Only thing I did change was the apn for the normal internet connection. Going to wipe now and try again with the uk wap apn.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Wiz:
I currently am using Qtek version 1.6.7.1 WWE with radio 1.12.10 and it works fine.

(sorry in my previous post I of course meant meant 1.6 and not 1.06)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
So here is a bit of interesting information, I got the blackberry client to work, but it only works while the tmobile general.t-mobile.uk apn is enabled. The minute I try to connect to wap.voicestream.com the pin becomes blocked. Anyone with blackberry working, have you gotten regular data gprs to work as well?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
OK, so I got it working. Here is the problem though, anytime I try to access the internet through the wap.voicestream.com apn it disables the blackberry connect and allows me to be on the internet. However, I can't figure out a way for blackberry to get logged back to the blackberry.net apn without a soft reset.

Anyone able to use the internet and blackberry at the same time? My nokia 9300 was able to do that, basically it ran both apns at the same time. Had a G icon and a B icon.

Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Sting0r, I am using the BB Connect to connect to a BES and using the wap.voicestream.com APN. When I installed the UK ROm it obviously defaulted settings to the UK ones and I left those while I go it set up, then changed to the US settings and it's been fine.

You cannot connect to internet and BES at the same time. Open the BB Connect and then select "suspend" and whn you have finished web browsing just hit "resume" and it works with no issues.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Wiz,

See you are using a QTEK ROM. Could you specifically tell me which one it is? i.e RUU_PRODIGY_1060701_xxxxxxxx_yyyyyy.exe

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Thanks. Kinda of sucks you can't have both. Guess the NOkia 9300 has a better implementation. I only care because I want to leave agile messenger open all the time. Oh well...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
Now I am really confused.

Someone IS using BBConnect on a non-T-Mobile ROM and on a Non-T-Mobile network???

Please explain what you have running (ROM version) and to what you are connecting (apn) on which network.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
If you're referring to Wiz's post he is on TMO but is using QTEK ROM
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] antlane:
Before I go and have an argument with my Finance Director as to whether he'll approve it, can someone confirm whether or not the Blackberry Connect will work with my Wizard? It's a Vario running T-Mobile's latest ROM but I'm using it on Vodafone UK.

ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE

ROM date: 11/15/05

Radio version: 01.12.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.23

ExtRom version: 1.6.2.105

Thanks in advance.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Antlane,

I'm on Vodafone UK and I've tried the T-Mobile ROM that you are talking about and BB connect worked for me. Why do you want to beat up your finance director?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] slurp:
It also works for me.

Using o2 mini s with the Tmobile ROM , I can connect to the company BES

using the company supplied BB enabled Vodafone SIM

Thanks Jason