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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Even if you buy one you'll only be paying 100 bucks to upgrade to the dev one. Seems worth it to me considering this will be my device for a while

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Only issue I have is not much support. Unless I'm missing something I can't find squat on s4 developer edition. Seems like we should be patient and live with this one until things get worked out. Can you flash regular Verizon roms on it? Knox on it? Void warranty still possible? Lots of variables
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Easy fix, just buy a pallet of'm and send them to all of your favorite devs! :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Haha yeah if you have an extra $7500 lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Why did I have to find this!?! Ugh I should get a free dev one or so special deal lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I think I'll wait and see how things turn out. Like it was said before, they haven't made that big of an impact because with an unlocked bootloader you can flash stuff, and that's good for you, but unless everyone else on the regular gn3 get a workaround, there's no point.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
the whole think is that everyone should be buying the dev edition not the stock one.. personally im waiting on the dev edition there is no way this thing is gonna be unlocked like the s3/note2 was. the best that will happen for the retail version is root and safestrap and thats "IF" [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] wants to support another device with SS

ps im f5'ing this page til its available http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Ive decide once it does I'm gonna sell this one and pay the difference. Shouldn't be much more than a hundred bucks.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
true thats what i would do :) but i currently have s3,n2,s4 so i can wait til the dev edition comes out lol, i do suggest bookmarking that page though and checking it on the daily because when this thing goes online it will sell out fast
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I was running your ROM on my s3! Just sold it today. Love your work.

Good thing you have all your toys until then.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
thanks appreciate it. :) i bought a htc one on the 6th and the thing is aweful lol.. its unlocked and s'offed but i cant deal with the sense os compared to touchwiz its just not even in the same ballpark lol.. needless to say after the dev edition comes out. i will have a bunch of devices for sale lmao. i still really like the s3/note2 so i dont know what todo haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I didn't even consider it. I came from LG to a gs3 and touch wiz isnt bad. Especially after i loaded your ROM. Not going back to a smaller screen.

I think you'll easily sell your gnote2 after getting this. It's literally my most treasured device, along with my Nexus 7.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
1

hello friends,

long time lurker, this is my first post, so please be gentle. :D

My current situation, I'm grandfathered into unlimited data and my bill would go up by 30 if I got a subsidized phone.

So my choice is really only full price. As others mentioned, they are not happy with VZW practices and abuses when the user has a locked down phone, including me.

So it is a no brainer in my situation, to pay full price and, if I'm going to do so, I believe the clear choice is the Dev edition.

Thanks to the wonderful work of all you awesome devs, I've being able to keep my Gnex up to date, despite vzw best efforts to keep it down.

Hope this makes someone's decision a bit easier.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bodieism:
I have the S4 as well and figure that can hold me over until you get your ROM up and running on the N3 DE. I almost bought the retail version today until I skimmed the forums and found this thread. Since you're planning on supporting the Developer Edition and I have to pay full price anyways... I figure it's better for me to hold out for a few more days/weeks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
N2 with Beans is an easy wait for the DE! WINNING!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
There is not going to be much support on the Locked version either, so what are you losing?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Nothing. Even if a work around is created, your better off with a dev phone anyways IMO.

People who got their phone for cheap, with whatever glitch was going on, could sell it and pay the extra 100$ or whatever it comes out to be.

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Bingo...best bet is to sell the locked version and snatch up a dev device. It will be a small section of dev work going on but better then nothing. If I cant unlock it I aint gonna rock it lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BeansTown106:
That's my new motto lol and the ONLY reason I jumped at the htcone cuz of soff but I regret it fully cuz sense is horrid lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
So what are u suppose to put for Q 1,,4,and 9 if your not a Dev just want for the boot loader. And is Q 2 your phone #

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
beans how did you grow that beard?

mine is growing too. Waiting for the shopping cart.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
The main thing on the developer form is that you check the box on the red paragraph :)

Lillie via LG Spectrum (waiting for N3 DE) & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Sold mine for $650
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Me too :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
On swappa? I may sell mine if I can get $650 for it. I'd like to get more since it has a Spigen case & Ghost Armor screen cover already, but I know I'll probably just have to eat that cost.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I left my zagg on mine and kept my spigen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
Yeah, I wasn't sure I wanted to keep the case because I am more of a skin guy. But I don't know how well a skin will stick on the textured back, it will probably pick up lint along the edge. So I guess I might as well keep the case.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Well i would considering it cost 35 bucks haha. I just ordered the mime feather lite screen protector so hopefully it gets here so i don't have to go nakey when i get the dev edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
question one make up something cool lol

question 2 is phone number

question 4 put odin and stock tar and gz files etc

question 9 meet up stuff? xda, rootzwiki, android bbq stuff like that etc
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Yeah on Swappa. You could probably get more with the case & screen protector. Right now would be a good time to sell since the listing are b/w $620-680
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
I got my Spigen Neo Hybrid case for $25 via Amazon Prime. But yeah, $25 is $25.

If I get a DE, I will probably go with Ghost Armor again. I used Zagg for years but I think Ghost Armor looks & feels better.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I have the spigen bounce and a couple clear ones and just bought a neo hybrid today in gold. hope its nice!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I got a mime actually. The featherlite. I hear its good.

Editb i thought i said ghost. Guess not haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] FrostyOrDie:
For those of you selling yours with Ghost Armor just rip it off. And bring it in to the Ghost Armor store and they'll replace for $5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
doesnt look like it is going to be today?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Nobody really has any clue at this point - its just become a guessing game.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i was confirmed by reps and others were that it should be able to be purchased today. empty cart syndrome was supposed to be fixed by now
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I just hope its this week.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Ted A:
What's the link of the phone or the order form on the Verizon site?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
For the sake of the rest of us, if anyone manages to get an order in, please post here ASAP. I'm following this thread, so it'll alert me.

It would be much appreciated!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
I can't even post anything for sale on swappa.. Anyone who has an answer hit me up via pm please!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
can only order via samsung.com
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Let's keep calling them & bugging them about it. They'll fix it ASAP especially if we keep tieing up their customer service reps ha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
Who knows if that representative was actually correct, 10 different reps would give 10 different answers.

I'm willing to wait :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Well, since we don't have much choice...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Ugghh this is stupid if its been available for purchase since last week and there sites really screwed up. I want my N3 back

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
You aren't kidding. The lady that I talked to was very aware of the issue and said it isn't a Samsung issue it's whoever runs their websites so who knows how long that could take to get running
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
I know the one I talked to Friday said it should be fixed by today. I'm gonna call again tomm if it ain't fixed and just see what they say.

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
I wish I had the time to F5 the Samsung web site and hound their phone operators all day ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Step 1: Create a product people want to buy

Step 2: Don't sell it to them

Step 3: ????

Step 4: Profit

I know, it's a bit of a stale joke, but it seemed appropriate.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Im at work checking on it every hour or so :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Step 1: Create a product people want to buy

Step 2: Verizon

Step 3: ?????

Step 4: Profit

Haha let's keep the jokes going to pass the time
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Hmmmm,

Q How many Dev Edition Note 3 owners does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A Sell us the mo********er and we'll find out!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
What company sells more phones in 3rd quarter then top 3 competitors combined including Apple yet can't get their shopping cart figured out on their website????

Sammy lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
How many Sammy reps does it take to fix a web page? NONE!!! Obviously

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
A guy walks into a bar and tells the bartender to give him a shot of everything, the bartenders says that'll be $700 plus tax.

The guys says "thats it? I spend that on multimedia devices which will become obsolete In 45days"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
I just laughed out loud. Thank you so much for this post!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Guess its not today :(

Im live chatting a representative so we will see if they can help
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I bet they will either say that they don't know what you're talking about or they will give you some other unknown answer that will make you scratch your head LOL.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I'm waiting for them to tell someone to buy it from AT&T.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
They said contact Verizon or best buy haha how do they not know they are the only ones who supply developer devices.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Because they are a** hats :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I know. If it isnt up tommorow ill call and see.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Well go ahead and call it's not up lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
I just checked. Nothing yet
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
OK guys' I'm gonna say it AGAIN. Its coming out in December.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mjlewis0102:
I know I cant wait that long. several reasons

1) Hate my new S4 with the locked bootloader. Previous one was unlocked. Now gotta safestrap- taking up alot of my memory

2)Note 3 is 32GB.......base model.......nuff said

3) USB 3.0. My laptop has 3.0 and I always transfer large movie files onto my 64GB card. Most of the time in a hurry.

4) Bigger screen to watch my downloaded movies

5) I already ordered a case and screen protectors. I'm soooo anxious! Only got to play with the GN3 in the store and everybody keeps telling me how great it is.

This is why I cant wait.

I would trade my HP i7 16GB ddr3; 256GB SSD/1TB; 17.3" beast of a laptop for one right now. (and that is my baby)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
then why did samsung reps tell me and others in this thread it should be fixed by yesterday or soon?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
They are idiots. I have dealt with them for tv issues, and they are clueless.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
them and verizon must use the same hr dept lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Probably
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Stringing us along, they want all who will settle for the locked version to commit. Does anyone know if sales have started dropping off yet, if it were me I would wait for at least that?

Lillie via LG Spectrum (waiting for N3 DE) & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Im sure they have dropped off already. the note 3 isnt a huge seller like the s3 or s4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Well it's all over the web news, over 5 million in a month. We could be in for wait

:( ... :(

Lillie via LG Spectrum (waiting for N3 DE) & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
They are going to tell you what you want to hear, just like any other salesperson/company rep
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Your welcome :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
OTAs

Big NOOB question here.

Does a dev model take the same OTAs as a regular model? Would we not take an OTA and get updates directly from Samsung as not to impact the unlocked bootloader? :confused:

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
I`m gonna take a wild stab and say it`s very likely that an OTA can affect it. Not only that kitkat contains features that could be destructive to obtaining root unless work arounds are all ready being sought. Wouldn`t that be fancy selling it to you at possibly a higher price then stealing the key feature right back?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Ohh my gosh, don't even get me started on their tv department. Long story short;So my smart tv wouldn't respond to the smart hub button, it would just make the tv flash red. I swear to god this lady made me put my tv remote to the camera of my phone and press buttons on the tv remote to see if the phone would react to it. She said maybe it's the receivers fault, at one point she told me to reboot everything in my room because "the ELECTRONIC signals would interfere." So I said transfer me to anyone else please, McDonald's could help me more. She transferred me to this geek, he told me to unplug the tv and plug it back in, it needs to reboot after the update I took...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
started a little poll to see what people are doing! vote now! :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
At this point I am seriously debating holding off for the N4 or possibly jumping ship.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
n4 wont be until sept 2014
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
For the time being I'm waiting. I've decided going forward I'm only buying Developer Edition phones as long as I'm on Verizon.

That limits me currently to either the Droid Maxx, Moto X, or GSIV and I'm not really interested in any of those.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwalnut:
Going to wait a little longer
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
Guys as stupid as these companies may seem.. They aren't stupid. They are going to wait until the retail value of locked version drops a bit before pushing out the Dev edition. They want us to have to pay full price and not be able sell our locked devices for $649 on Swappa. If this thing drops before the new year I'll be pleasantly surprised
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
They get the money either way, why would they care what you do with the device after that? If you sell the locked device on Swappa they've already been paid by the provider.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] kwalnut:
Yea i don't think they care what you get for the device on the secondary market.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I called and they said they were aware of the situation and took my name and number. Same run around as everyone else
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
it wont drop at all probably. the note 2 is still crazy high at $599 and think it just dropped after note 3 release so dont expect it drop anytime soon
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
So who is this mysterious source of yours that seems to have the 'correct' answer when no one else at Samsung seems to know ****? I'm still not sure I buy it. If the 'broken' cart and the misinformed sales staff is all smoke and mirrors, does it really seem cost effective to stretch the whole thing out for an entire month?

If you are right, we should all call them two calls a day, just to punish the a**holes for screwing with us!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bigwavedave25:
We could start posing the moronic chats from Sammie agents... they are always good for a laugh. Especially "Sophia" who I was just communicating with.

Clueless...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
The online chat reps are even worse than the Verizon reps
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Thank god hospitals and airports are not run by these same f heads! :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
so what if a dev finds a way to unlock the current bootloader on current note 3's? does that technically make it a developer edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
It funny cuz it true!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
I guess so . only person working on it though is hash code and I dont think his aim is to really unlock the bootloader . so I don't see how miraculously it will unlock.

ask not what your developer can do for you, ask what you can do for your developer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
Pretty much
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
i see.... well what can we do for our devs? just donate for their work right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bigwavedave25:
Well, I know for a fact that Hospital coding/billing depts have a few of those on staff. How do you mix up a natural child birth with a C-section? Magic surgery happened without a Dr!? Good grief...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Ive heard stories where they need to amputate a leg and they do the wrong one. Thats why they use markers haha.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
Be patient and understand that an unlock isn't guaranteed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
oh yea totally. i understand. nothing is guaranteed for these type of things.

but yes i agree! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
It's not even close to guarantee, all of the devs said theoretically it's possible. But it's never ganna happen unless there is a miracle. The Verizon s4 bootloader unlock hasn't been crackled yet and it's community is huge, and have been out for almost a year. I don't mean to be a deaby downer, but your best bet is the dev edition note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
Agreed and also not to join you in the downer pool but with the Nexus 5 coming out around the same time it's going to take a lot of experienced developers away from this device. This includes designgears who is selling his Note 3 and getting the Nexus 5. Bad timing and locked bootloader, not seeing it ending well.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
This. Theoretically it is possible...just like theoretically it is possible that I will wake up next to Kate Beckinsale.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
ouchies... never realized what the nexus 5 would do.... bummer.... :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
That's a really good point you made there . this locked down status is resulting in a very few devs. And they are fleeing. By the time Dev phone comes out it will be long forgotten . I am also amazed at people that says unlocking the bootloader will happen . just because a miracle happened before it doesn't meant it will happen again !

ask not what your developer can do for you, ask what you can do for your developer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Nexus 5: I don't get it. Roughly equivalent to most of the top phones in processor speed, but without much memory and no SD card. The only thing it really has to recommend it in my eyes is that it is cheaper to buy outright than something from Samsung or HTC.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
My point exactly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I love my google nexus 7 2013 and it sucks verizon wont approve the 5 on their network otherwise I'd get that. Guess how easy it is to unlock that? well gee, just get into the bootloader and have it recognize adb and type oem unlock bootloader and your done. flash away. wish the note was that easy.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I was going to leave the Note 3 for the Nexus 5 but stupid Verizon..... wouldn't let us have a Nexus 5 on their network, I pray that another carrier gets Excellent LTE coverage soon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
Google said Verizon won't be carrying the nexus 5, but they said they have a bunch of projects in 2014 instore for Verizon users. So we might get it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] akellar:
I wouldn't bet on it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Has anyone tried to get another phone besides the N3 DE on there site? Does it go into the cart?

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Yeah probably the outdated nexus 5 summer of 2014 or another sub par moto x thing
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
yes. s4 dev one works fine
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
You guys are hillarious. Once we have a fully operating SS, which will be VERY soon, we will have lots of Mods/roms to choose from. If you have to have aosp...get a nexus.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
still not going to pay $750 for a phone that isnt unlocked no matter if ss is working flawlessly
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
same thing

then you will have to wait for the n4 dev edition. essentially making it the same wait cycle.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
Just spoke to Verizon and Samsung and got the complete run around

Both sides are saying the other side is in charge of this and there is no end in sight.

:/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
OK, anybody live in Jersey? It's time for someone to head on over to Samsung USA headquarters and bust some heads!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
Cs from samsung

Jay form samsung : problems with the site, will be up in couple of days.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
they said this for days ugh lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
Does the retail version get no love at all? Lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
i am in jersey. Where is the hq?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Samsung Electronics USA Corporate Office Headquarters HQ

105 Challenger Road Ridgefield Park,

New Jersey 07660
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] billymaloney3:
bout an hour out from me, i doubt going there would do anything tho