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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
well i was paying off contract anyways to keep unlimited and i would rather not purchase my baby i will be using for hopefully at least 6 months off craigslist or swappa so verizon or samsung was going to get my money for full retail either way you look at it and i would rather give to samsung then verizon haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Same here. For me, the shipping price & a few bucks was the difference between buying a stock Verizon from the store at full-price vs. the Developer edition. You can't beat that Verizon unlimited data with no throttling.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Anyone heard anything yet as to if samsung has em back in stock?

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Nothing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Dang. We need more dev editioners

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
I'm going to call Samsung to see if I can get any information. Will post if I actually get anything valuable from them.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Hopefully this week. It took them less than a day to etch next day air people so it shouldn't take that long to etch a few hundred more

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i will count on not hearing back from you then. they will tell you nothing valuable haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Think of the most useless information you've ever heard and multiply that by 1000.

That was my conversation with Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
haha what they say???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
The epitome of customer service.

They have no idea when a backordered item will be back in stock.

The backorder number gets you a notification that the item is in stock, nothing else. Someone posted this previously I recall.

Keep waiting, stay clueless.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I dont have to wait anymore i have one! :) just know their customer service sucks!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Hey Samsung, I'll take a dremel tool and etch it myself. Effers!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I swear this is like waiting for the shopping cart button to get fixed only worse!!!!! Hurry up Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
I agree. Much worse.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I check this thread like 5 times a day to see if anyone has made or found anything new LOL. Also is there a section for our DE cause the people that still haven't gotten one will need tutorials to install recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
You just flash the mobile one through odin

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
A few of us are getting ours tomorrow!

via LG Spectrum (waiting for N3 DE) & tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
Alright so my Dev edition should be here tomorrow. I would like to know what is the preferred steps to root and get twrp.

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Download the tmobile openrecovery-twrp-2.6.3.8-hltetmo here:

http://www.techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hltetmo

flash in odin under the ap slot

boot into recovery and should ask you to root

EDIT also keep in mind this does void knox warranty
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Only 5?! :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
Perfect. Thank u!

And then just flash any ROM as usual through twrp correct?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
No problem. i know some people had to flash a separate su zip but i did not have to just had to update su once it booted
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Can you post some screen shots (ap mode specific etc...) and be more detailed? I'm a noob to Odin but not flashing stuff in recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
[MENTION=4065904]droidstyle[/MENTION] has a great guide and links. It's what I used:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2483380
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
The biggest concerns about dev vs retail note 3 is, if Verizon releases an update and retail loses safestrap ability because new modem etc will be I intro introduce through the bootloader. How does having an unlocked bootloader help in this situation? Also who pushes the updates for the dev version? I'm asking because I considering getting a dev version.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] inco9nito99:
This is retarded. What is the point of a Dev device if warranty is voided by tripping KNOX. Has anybody figured out how to keep it 0x0? What is Samsung saying about the Dev Editions tripping the KNOX flag?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
The Dev edition comes with a 30 day warranty or until you alter the software. It's a dev edition, they expect you to trip the Knox flag!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xXJay_RXx:
If you don't like it, stick to the retail version
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
This is really the key advantage of the DE. Once you get an update you can still push a recovery, root, or do whatever you want without waiting for an exploit.

Of course, that depends on Samsung releasing the stock tar in a timely manner so we can ODIN back in case we screw up while tweaking things ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I think I'm going to wait to see Verizon announcement on November 19 before buying another phone. If they take away our unlimited plans I'm switching to T-Mobile.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I don't follow your logic - instead of voting with your dollar, letting Samsung know you demand open devices, you plan to give the money to the devs in hope that enough cash will inspire them to stay ahead of the increased security? Are you pledging the full amount that you saved on that subsidized phone to whoever cracks the bootloader? :rolleyes: Didn't think so.

While I am in favor of supporting the devs whenever possible, this locked bootloader thing isn't going away. Meanwhile, it doesn't take Verizon et al. long to find out where their software is vulnerable: all they need do is read this forum to know when they need a patch. Instead, if we buy the Dev editions, at least we let them know that we are willing to back up our mouths with our wallets..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
The amount I pledge to devs is really of no concern to you. Thought so. It's actually pretty simple logic. I paid Verizon 1/4 the price you did and have the same capabilities as far as root and rom. And oh wait, by the way can restore to my stock state without worry about borking the phone or tripping knox and warranty.

Unfortunately you're correct the locked bootloader isn't going anywhere. Hate to piss on your cheerios, but buying a dev editon of a phone won't change that for the masses.

I completely understand and support unlocked bootloaders and dev device's. The DE wasn't available when I upgraded from my Note II. My point, which you obviously missed, is that: while I was on a waiting list for the DE, I no longer need to be. Since we have root, recovery and ROM's on the retail. While Sammy/Verizon continue to troll not giving up the stock .tar files...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I love how this has turned out to be US vs Them (dev vs retail)!!!! How but we agree to disagree and realize we all our in good hands meaning with have dev support for both Note 3 and should be happy with that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
In no particular order...

A: Piss might help cheerios for all I can tell, horrid things... but I haven't spent my money telling Verizon that I'm perfectly happy getting a bloat loaded phone, thank you sir, may I have another.

B: Couldn't give a rusty euphemism about knox and the warranty: cell phone warranties are borderline worthless - in my experience they brake because of things the warranty never covers. Get Square Trade coverage and be done with it.

C: You're rooted now, enjoy it while it lasts...

D: I pay full price for my phone: company plan, but even if I wasn't on the company plan, I'd use a MVNO and save the price of my phone over 2 years. I can afford the cash up front.

E: You no longer need to be on the wait list? If you're happy with what you have, that is just fine with me, but it doesn't change the fact that you haven't somehow made a stand for unlocked phones by buying a locked phone, which was the original assertion I was responding to - the part of your post I quoted. Also, the point that made your implied monetary support of the Dev relevant to the conversation.

Edit: for the record, this is all intended as good natured ribbing, I'm not upset and I hope you aren't either.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Lol. You're amusing at least. Bringing up irrelevant points about what you "can" afford. This thread is wayyyyy off track. Your bent on telling me I'm wrong for some reason.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, of which doesn't affect me in the least. So while you continue to tell me my points are are wrong, I'm still rooted abd running Rom's which is really what this is all about right?

So instead of trying to tell me what I should or shouldn't think, or what I should happy with, let's just leave it at what swizzle said. Let's just be happy to have a phone with enough support that we can all enjoy it for what we as individuals want it to be.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Well that and the retail army is much larger! :P
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Can I have my DE please?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Brandonrz:
This is off-topic guys let's get back on track, this isn't debate Club lol. Take it to the pm's.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
so you paid $191ish for the retail note 3? and what about the people that buy everything off contract to keep unlimited data like me? i might as well buy the developer edition and enjoy the benefits of an unlocked phone instead of a $750+ locked phone from verizon. In due time the stock odin files will come available for the developer edition and things will start rolling. Also if you dont want to void the knox warranty you can run safestrap for the first 30 days keeping 0x0 knox intact and then void after the 30 days and run twrp or cwm. best of both worlds solved right there
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I'll play nice, but what

is

on topic for this thread anymore? Backorder status? It has kinda become a catch-all for all things DE, and the occasional person bragging about having root and safestrap on the Verizon edition.

On topic: just checked, Samsung still shows backordered, mine is still on-schedule to show up Wednesday (for those who're backordered, I'm not rubbing it in, just anxious to get it...).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
No problem. I keep thinking how much development there will be when my backorder arrives in 3-6 months.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Well said!! This is a community folks...does not matter if you have a retail or dev edition were all here because we love to mod android. Lets check the childish antics at login and continue with some constructive conversation shall we? :highfive:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
guide

speaking of community, Thanks for your rooting note 2 guide and all the effort to support that device. Any plans for a N3 guide?

For what is worth the S4 and the N2 dev edition(s) are in stock. Maybe N3 will be back there.

Q: Is that "order" number they have on their sammy site honored or is just part of their great CS?

Abe
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Lobo173:
Anybody have a link to where I can buy the Verizon DE Note 3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
At the moment, no. It is backordered. Only available direct through Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Thanks! Yes N3 guide is up...check this section.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
This section?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
Has anyone else that ordered the dev ed and did regular shipping gets theirs yet? I was able to pick mine up yesterday. It feels like the ones that ordered next day air have had theirs forever already..lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Not yet! It's out for delivery should be here in the afternoon. It's barely 10:45pst lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
Cool.. darn time zones.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
yes general section.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] avenging:
How long is the back order?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
Samsung hasn't given any indication of when it will be back in stock that I know of. Judging by the fact that it took about 6 hours to sell out, it appears they may have underestimated the market.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I wan't to order the dev edition so I can install safestrap always!!! (This is not about dev vs retail), I have used safestrap for several years and all of a sudden I realize how cool it is to dual/triple boot roms. My favorite roms for Note 2 was Beans, Lab Rats and Goodness. With Safestrap I can have all three installed and switch back and forth. Hashcode is the man for real, Safestrap reminded me of when I had boot manager app for my nexus back in the days... #oldskool
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ainjobizz:
Mine just arrived :) Can't play with it yet though because I'm busy painting :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] virx14:
Are there any Verizon MVNOs which would take Verizon Note 3 or any other LTE enabled phone on their network?

On the (off)topic, it would be a pretty obvious choice to me to get DE edition of I had to pay full price. It also looks pretty obvious that most people would not pay $500+ just for unlocked bootloader. Weird to see you guys arguing about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
yea mines on its way... should be here any minute now... :good:

i know right.... a lot of progress the past 5 days big ups to the devs :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
It sold out faster than that
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
Nice! I hope it's there soon.

Yah, this community rocks! (For the most part) :silly:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
haha.

thanks man...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MotorcycleMike:
Delivered! Now what should I do first??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
LOL all ten of them........
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
I'm under the impression that Net10 will take them, but I could be wrong.

I thought it was about 10 pm (pacific) 'til about 4 am. Then again, I was more worried about hitting the buy button than what time it was...

Now let's not exaggerate. This industry leading electronics giant didn't just release ten of their brand new product... they released twenty!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
OMG

Waw waw waaawww is all I can say.

I got my phone at 10:30 today , my Dev edition , and I immediately felt like I own my phone , not the other way around.

Before even sticking the battery in, I steamed up my bathroom and installed my Glas. tR on it.

then took didn't even boot it once, just straight to download mode and installed a recovery, it was even easier than unlocking my s3 , s-off my resound and unlocking my dad's note 2. Ugh so sick of finger f'ing my phone to get a damn recovery on it

The ease of it was jaw dropping

then backed up, wiped every thing and installed beans' rom. never even seen how stock looks like

This is a keeper for a looonggg time

I am never ever ever buying a locked a bootloader again. FFFFF thaaattt.

OMG thank you fellas for shining the light on this whole dev edition thing. I almost had a change of heart when I heard about the recovery situation, and how we can't get it to port because of missing stock odin.

but every thing I expected was met : 1- putting a recovery was as easy as cake

2- I will never have the fear of a patch

3- I didn't have to deal with no wired workaround I have never used before, and i never have to. Just good ol recovery

I f5ed the heck out of that dev edition page, and when it went live at 1:30 AM , i was shaking lol. Looking back, it was worth eh wait and the neurotic checking and more .

oneandroidnut : I can't explain to you my gratitude for introducing me to the idea of a dev, edition, for telling me about the web page, for giving me hints about recovery , when i almost changed my mind again. Dude I owe you !

CANT POSSIBLY FORGET TO THANK BEANS and the TEAMWIN !!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
haha thanks man it was no problem!! glad you are loving the developer edition like the rest of us!! and also FYI i am testing something now as we speak! ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
LOL, my mistake... :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Fyi tmobile kernels work on developer device with no issues. I have been flashing them in past little bit all work flawlessly!!!!

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
finally..... the time has come....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
That one hit me hard. :crying:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Oh the good old days of flashing kernels. But still need them to be back in stock. You guys are lucky :) can somebody post tutorials on all of the stuff that works with the developer phone just so that there's a place to go to look at later. It would be helpful to know what is safe to flash and what's not which is why I ask.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
What why you crying????

I could possibly make one tomorrow if we are slow at work for you guys that don't have one yet so you are ready to go!! :)

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
That would be awesome! :)

It would probably be best to make a mega thread that can be added to as we find more stuff.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Uggh they need to hurry and get more in stock!!! Imo's kernels are the best. It's all I ran on my Gnex and can't wait to see how they run on this beastly phone.

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
No device to flash IMO's great kernels.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Aww sorry :(

& I may work on one tonight after first ncaa game ends. Wonder where I put it?? General section?

Yeah it's crazy the phone gets faster yes faster lol it's pretty crazy

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] MotorcycleMike:
What are the benefits of flashing a new Kernel and which one is recommended?

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Better battery life, smoother operation, and what not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
lol

How do you even think of this stuff ? lol I was always taught to stay away from other providers' dev forums like the plague. Now, after seeing you pull this off, the sky is the limit !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
Wait, why do we want a T-Mobile kernel on a Verizon Developer phone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Don't get me wrong I didn't just do it for fun talked to imo and couple other devs about if it would even work and even if it didn't I still have a twrp backup and just restore boot.img only and good to go again no big deal

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
ahhhhhhhaa

You know i backed up , but i was thinking man if it didn't boot up , i would have to do a restore ( yes i know i whine a lot) forgot that we can just flash boot posted by beans, still trying to get used to the luxury of a dev phone.

Btw , were you able to adjust the voltage on imos kernel ? I am now happily over clocked to 2.4 , just for the heck of it , lol my beast doesn't need any more speed, but i just wanna be able to do it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Yes and I had one from tmobile of course and it went up to 2.7 lol

Sent from my N900V Dev Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
UPS bastards!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Turgur:
Modem

Question. I noticed Beans posted the modem for MJ7 in one of the threads in Android Development. Is that the same thing as baseband? Would we flash that using Odin? I tried flashing it with Odin but it still says MJ3 in About Phone under Baseband Version. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bodieism:
Nice! Do you happen to know if any of them allow fast charging above 900 mA? I really miss that feature from the Perseus kernel on the Note 2.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i believe some had the option for fast charging
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Is there something to the idea of a partial root? AdAway is unable replace the hosts file in system/etc
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Several have asked for a guide/tutorial on dev edition and here it is guys! go check it out!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2525208
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Thank you so much! The guide was a much needed thing so we don't have people asking the same questions over and over. Now we can just send them to that thread and answer any questions/concerns over there! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I've been having issues with Adaway since the root release of the Note 3...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] texasez:
I wasted my time calling Samsung to ask about when the back ordered developer edition would ship. They did not have a clue.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
typical sammy
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
I had the same wonderful customer service experience last week.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I am also having trouble with safe strap with it not displaying it's splash screen.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cinsity:
I was having a similar issue until I updated to newest SS version. Working seamlessly again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I already had a guide for you guys...but hey use whatever one that works best for you. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Marvelicious75:
It's my first time with a Samsung device, and first time with Odin. In the end, I read both guides for clarification, and was glad there were two. It's all pretty straightforward, but when it isn't familiar territory, it's nice to have confirmation
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
Yeah Odin is pretty easy to learn. Hardest part is putting the right file in the right slot
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidrev71:
I had the same problem. I had my device plugged in and ss wouldn't show up. Once i unplugged usb the issue was gone. A bug or coincidence Idk but thought I'd share.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
My ss problem is not being plugged nor older version. I guess it's time to look for app incompatibility. It helps to know that other de users are OK with ss:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i know man but mine is all developer edition. that is all i wanted mine to be nothing else :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
I'm psyched I just got my T-Mobile Note 3 today! I'm already rooted with TWRP! Unlocked my SIM put in my new At&T SIM card got my 4G LTE flowing. And flashed Wicked Sensations ROM! So happy I made this choice! Still never even got an email from Samsung relating to my backorder!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Traitor!

Sent from my Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Sorry guys Verizon played me to hard! Once I saw my way out I took it! But I will miss this community! Light speed guys!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
should have got a developer note 3 on verizon when they came back! :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
I would of but by the time if I even got it, there's probably gonna be something newer and better around the corner! Technology changes so fast I had to jump on it while I could! I'm sick of Verizons waiting games!