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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Exactly. if i knew for a 100% fact it was coming out November 1st and wait a few days from then for shipping etc etc i would be ok what worries me is it wont come out til December or something crazy like that. and also verizon will not have this phone it will not be subsidized it will be available from samsung mobile website only for full retail of $699 or $749. I was also told the day i saw and started this thread and tipped droid life i talked to samsung immediately and got a very nice lady and she confirmed the phone for first week in november no sooner, no later. Today and other days i havent been able to get any info out of them. only thing we can go off is she told me the right date before she was supposed to. and 2swizzle to answer i think its a month to 6-8 weeks later then verizon release. you going after dev version?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
I don't know man..... I can't decide, Dev phone would be sweet but lets be real how many devs are going to pay retail for the phone??? I know Beans but to be honest I'm a crack flasher (or use to be) I get bored after time. I'm coming from the Note 2 and it was a decent Dev community but most of the Roms were across all carriers. I.E Clean rom, Alliance rom, Tweaked rom, Jedi -X rom, Lab Rats, etc. Without the cross carrier roms the dev community would have been minimal. One thing for sure is Sammy is taking the enjoyment out of flashing phones!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gcarterny:
Don't forget ATT and Vzw are the only ones locked down so there still will be dev doing ports for dev edition from other carriers IMO
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
i know man i dont know what to do either. I love the phone as is but an unlocked bootloader would be sweet even just for nandroid and theming sake and not having to worry about not getting updates. I want to keep this phone for awhile (6 months is awhile for me) and dont know if i can use stock rom phone that long lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Good thing I'm easy to please, if Bean's gets it that's all I need. I put it on my N2 within 10 minutes of getting home and I've never even tried any others :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
The note 2 was the first phone I kept for a year, even during that time I had the s4, iPhone 5 and htc one. If every company continues to lock their boatloader what happens to the community? I hope we don't end up like the jailbroken community. (The cat and mouse game, after time devs stop chasing to unlock). It disappointing because sammy did one hell of a job with the note 3

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Lol I can't keep a phone for a year!! & the note 3 is something else very impressive device don't know if I'm giving it up yet or not. Using HTC one at home on Wi-Fi now debating it lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
tried to ask samsung chat rep for a release date. he offered up a typical scripted "we can't say when or if it will be available."
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] dooku77:
Just to let you know, my 90 days has turned into 1 year. Its up to the 3rd party tracking company to lift the ban. They really screwed me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I called today too and got same answer. The first day I saw and posted this and on droid life they told me first week of November so that's what I'm going with. That was from Samsung too
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
what blows is that's just outside of my note 3 15 day return window at best buy >.>
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Really? It's not 14 days?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] untouchablez:
As long as beans is getting one, I can wait & get the developer edition. I'm selling my locked N3 & using my N2 until then.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Hitman3984:
their site says 15 with no date change for mobile devices. Not like it matters, my last day would be the 25th. Just outside was more of a general statement and my note 2 is currently on eBay.

It's one of those go without a phone for couple days? Or maybe hold on to the note 2? Or just sell the retail 3, hah too many options as long as a bid doesn't pop up on the note 2 while it's listed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
So you were able to flash it and can you confirm it restored the stock dev kernel?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Turgur:
if that is the stock kernel, then I can verify it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
If oneandroidnut's picture was the stock developer edition (which I belive it is) then yes you have confirmed that you have successfully flashed the Odin tar for the stock Dev MJ3 kernel. Now you guys have an Odin tar for one bootloader partition at least. If anyone needs any other stock dev odin tars made let me know. We should be able to create a nearly full Odin restore file...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I need full stock files trying to fix a friends developer edition on here and looks like I'm going to need stock everything
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Nvbackup I believe it's called ran in terminal emulator. Phone boots but after it updates apps it bootloops infinitely. No matter Rom or kernel. Tried pit file didn't help
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
Its not that easy, I need dumps from the stock dev edition most importantly the bootloaders for creating a Dev Firmware restore Odin tar. For a full Dev Odin restore tar, I'd need the Bootloaders + Cache, System, Hidden, and a few other partitions in order to recreate the sec_csc and those partitions need to be as close to stock as possible.

But for your issue, you should try a few more things before an Odin restore. If its getting perpetual bootloops, theres more you can do to troubleshoot than just a stock restore, let alone an unofficial one.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
So someone would have to sit down with a brand new de and adb then dd every mmcblk* file on the device, would that be enough, is there a procedure written down for this somewhere?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
You can run a TMO kernel on a VZW ROM (DE only, of course).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Dragoncrouch:
I can verify that my overnight DE version has also posted weather delays, which is bad for me as I'm leaving tomorrow for holiday. If it doesn't come, I'm going to be waiting almost two weeks before I ever see it! :(

Live webcam of the area

wxnation(dot)com/livecam/

Looks slick as all get out. :S
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BootlegZani:
Goddamn it I missed it again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Is it out of stock again?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] BootlegZani:
Yes it appears so. Looks like I have to wait another goddamn month.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Oh well I'm waiting till there's a sure way to unbrick... If nothing happens in that department I'm probably not going to bite.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] texasez:
This is why ups shows weather delays in Dallas. This is a picture from McKinney Tx, in the Dallas area. Will Samsung refund overnight charge if it is not delivered today?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I hope so but it looks like there will be more security checking implemented into kit kat for root exploits. There is a article floating around here on it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
Weather conditions might delay delivery of this shipment. This is the most current information available. Please track again later for status updates.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Dragoncrouch:
Wow, that was extremely quick. I think I purchased around Thursday morning around 1-2 o'clock. It sold out in two days; well three if you count Wednesday. What are they stocking twenty at a time? :(

I sure hope so. I'm going to be severely disappointed if it doesn't come!

It appears calling the Samsung number listed in my e-mail confirmation just runs me around in circles. Definitely not a functional number, fantastic. How do I get a hold of them to talk about getting a refund?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Customer service told me they would refund overnight shipping charges. Once I get the DE, I will call them again and make sure they do.

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I remember that utility from the S3 days. S3 had issues with a blank IMEI and if you used nvbackup you could restore. Sucks that it bricked your friend's phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
That really sucks!

What the hell, do they only stock like 10 units per month?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechBSwift:
Lets be honest here, they're flaws to both the dev and retail versions..

Dev

No restore file yet so if you screw up flashing recovery you're screwed (I'm sure a file will be located/leaked eventually)

Only 1 Dev has the dev version Beans ( I love beans rom but I'm a crackflasher)

No official support from Verizon or Sammy (how do you obtain new verizon radios/modems if retail loses root?)

30 day warranty (I've heard some say square trade will accept the phone and some say square trade told them no)

Retail

We could lose safestrap & root once kit kat comes out (only if you decide to upgrade, you don't have to upgrade ever)

No kernels (kernels are great but this phone is powerful already with great battery life)

No asop roms (which IMO is pointless for any Note product)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
Mine is stuck at DFW since 9:00 last night lol.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
My wife called UPS they said "Icing roads"

Every time I'm getting over night shipping I'm getting it 8 days later

Like the generator I bought before sandy...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
After vzw left me high and dry with the Eris, Droid X and now the fake Nexus, I would take whatever I can that will "guarantee" that I'm not forced into a new device just because updates are blocked by either the provider or manufacturer.

Also, alternative roms have advantages, for example, I love the privacy option of CM and I think that they do have some support for the e-pen.

Talking about privacy, I want that more than ever by default after reading this:

http://www.fastcompany.com/3023042/...-secretly-your-sharing-location-and-device-id
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SeanPlunk:
I went to checkout two or three times yesterday and just couldn't pull the trigger. I'm taking it being out of stock again as a sign.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I am not sure what root has to do with modems that are odin flashable. All I said Kit Kat was suppose to have more security to detect root exploits. I am not saying one is better then the other.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
No it doesnt have to be brand new, just not running a rom. Also kernel, recovery and system are the hardest partitions to get because typically you cant extract the stock version of all 3 from the same phone. If people want to go down this route I can give more detail as far as the specific partitions needed, etc.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
For those of you who have ordered this, how long did it take to get tracking? I ordered yesterday when they had them in stock 3:18EST. I got the order confirmation shortly after. However have not received any tracking info and have tried looking up my order number but the website says its an incorrect order number. Also been on the phone for at least 4 hours today with Samsung trying to figure this out and none of the 6 people I have talked to can recognize my order number. But they did not waste any time taking the money out of my account.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
I'm guessing that the TX wear house is closed today. I am in the same boat, paid for overnight around the same time as you and haven't gotten a thing
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
Yes I had thought of that.... But you would think that someone at Samsung would have known that or at least be able to look up my order number. Its got me worried...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
same here
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
dev ed you can run tmobile roms and i am currently on hyper with no issues and kernels are amazing lol but yes we need restore odin files
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
If you go to Samsung.com and log into the account you used to purchase the phone. Then on the top right you can click 'help with my order' .

When I tried to 'track order status' it shows nothing but error / order number does not exist. But if you track it using the 'see your order history' button you will get a pop up that shows the order. Under status my says new. Guessing because it hasn't been processed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
I have now tried that but mines blank under "tracking"... I just wander if i got my order in too late and they were already sold out. Tried my 7th person at Samsung and still no help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
I just got word that the samsung order processing facility is closed due to the bad weather.

Fwiw I highly doubt they would let you place the order if the device was sold out. Its all computer inventory. So if there is 20 devices in stock, thier system will let the first 20 orders process.

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When I get my DE device I am going to try and take a system dump and see if we can create our own stock Odin restore image.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
hopefully cause i may need for a friends de note 3 that i think efs got deleted lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
Samsung already knows that we know how to extract the firmware. So there currently is no complete dev dump? Also idk if youve done this before or not but there are a few things that you should prioritize dumping first to make things easier. Let me know if you need my help.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
I just got off the phone with a very nice lady from the TV division of Samsung and she did tell me that the TX warehouse where this phone is coming from is closed and is scheduled to reopen Monday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Well mine got shipped and made it to Dallas but has been delayed there. Dammit

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Correct there is no complete dump. However I am wondering if there is something we dont know because if a system dump was all we needed, Surely Beans would of been on this already?

I have not done this, but I will definitely get ahold of you for help when I get the device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jwilliams0100:
Just checked and mine just left dfw airport!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
Mine says it was on the truck out for delivery today, but I'm stuck in this icy mess so I'm sure the UPS guy, if he did come out this way, gave up before he got to me and has headed back to the shop for the night.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
I was wondering the same thing, I asked him in the dev pit thread but he hasnt responded yet. Hes a busy guy though. When we say system dump I also mean the bootloaders too, I think it should work though
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Yeah mine has to

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Yea I have been reading up on it, should be able too.

On a side note has anybody been able to get TrevE mod wifi tether to work on the N3?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] inseek:
Still nothing almost a month later...

When did you guys order yours? I've backordered mine on 2013-11-12 and still nothing...almost a month so far.

Online account shows "order status: back order".

The proximity sensor on my regular N3 gave up so I am desperate getting DE ASAP :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Samsung did not send out any notifications to people that signed up for a notification that it was back in stock. It was back in stock the last 3 days or so but is now out of stock again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] inseek:
So that means unless I watch their site and order it directly when it come back in stock I will not receive it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
You got it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] sdaelr:
Just a quick question... This does have LTE, doesn't it? I read somewhere that this developer edition didn't have LTE. My understanding was they were exactly the same other than the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Has LTE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Mines in lousville KY now and yes insteel you'll need to check there site. I checked daily multiple times a day since they went out of stock the first time, I was not missing it again

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
Mine too. Hope that means delivery on Monday.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
Guys I posted this over couple of threads . Custom kernels from T mobile Bork screen mirror. Luckily I had the bare bone backed up so I restored it on beans and hyperdrive roms and i got it back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
You can just dream on a Saturday delivery.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
Beans took stock dump of the device as people were wondering. Problem is the system dump won't flash back in Odin....says device not supported. Only like 3 files were compatible or something (/system not being one of them). Hence why we need that DE Odin file from Samsung.

From my other post....

Just to add if you so well please....wrote this up last week as a reference when I was gonna pull system dumps, but then the factory images got posted up for grabs and made them useless.....same sh1t, with small additions, plus partition sizes

major minor #blocks name Label

7 0 21861 loop0
7 1 3150 loop1
7 2 26019 loop2
7 3 9387 loop3
7 4 2111 loop4
7 5 4190 loop5
7 6 26019 loop6
179 0 30535680 mmcblk0
179 1 15360 mmcblk0p1	apnhlos
179 2 58816 mmcblk0p2	modem
179 3 512 mmcblk0p3	sbl1
179 4 32 mmcblk0p4	dbi
179 5 32 mmcblk0p5	ddr
179 6 2048 mmcblk0p6	aboot
179 7 512 mmcblk0p7	rpm
179 8 512 mmcblk0p8	tz
179 9 10240 mmcblk0p9	pad
179 10 10240 mmcblk0p10	param
179 11 14336 mmcblk0p11	efs
179 12 3072 mmcblk0p12	modemst1
179 13 3072 mmcblk0p13	modemst2
179 14 11264 mmcblk0p14	boot
179 15 13312 mmcblk0p15	recovery
179 16 13312 mmcblk0p16	fota
179 17 7159 mmcblk0p17	backup
179 18 3072 mmcblk0p18	fsg
179 19 1 mmcblk0p19	fsc
179 20 8 mmcblk0p20	ssd
179 21 8192 mmcblk0p21	persist
179 22 9216 mmcblk0p22	persdata
179 23 2777088 mmcblk0p23	system
179 24 1048576 mmcblk0p24	cache
179 25 26521583 mmcblk0p25	userdata
179 32 512 mmcblk0rpmb
179 64 30702592 mmcblk1
179 65 30701568 mmcblk1p1
254 0 21861 dm-0
254 1 3150 dm-1
254 2 26019 dm-2
254 3 9387 dm-3
254 4 2110 dm-4
254 5 4189 dm-5
254 6 26019 dm-6

AS A SIDE NOTE:

Now if other people feel like doing the same thing I WAS gonna do before the images got posted, and pull your own stuff for safe-keeping, you can do the following commands in adb:

(Root required for this method)

> adb shell
> su
> dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 of=/sdcard/recovery.img

This will pull the factory stock recovery image and place it on your internal sd-card for you to do what you please with. Note for others, you need replace location and file name.

For example, if you wanted to dump /system, you'd use:

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p23 of=/sdcard/system.img

You just need to replace each file you're trying to pull with the necessary block location from the table I posted above.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Thepooch:
I hate to tell you I had two of them backordered one from the 6th of last month and the other from the 12th. Samsung website has yet to acknowledge either of these backorders so I became impatient and ordered one that completed on the 5th that one is somewhere in kentucky now and arrival scheduled for monday evening...:p
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
The system partition wont flash because it extracts part of the cache and hidden partitions (nonetheless its still hard to make) but getting the bootloaders is more important. Getting the stock system partition isnt a priority because you can make a rom of the dev system from just a dump.

Just to be clear, when you dump the partitions, they are no longer "factory stock" but now more so considered "stock " because they are no longer signed (wont flash in Odin), will get custom instead of official etc. And incase anyone wants to dump their entire system, mmcblk0 is the internal sd (contains all the partitions)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
So to restore we simply reverse if= and of=?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] r1ndr3w:
CleanRom 1.2 for DE

I read this in the CleanRom thread for the Verizon GN3.

"...More than likely this would work on Dev phone as long as you have stock kernel. HOWEVER, it is not supported! You do so at your own risk!.."

I'm assuming that is the kernel that comes standard on the DE. Am I understanding this correctly?

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Surge1223:
No depends on the partition, recovery, modem, and few others will work fine but if you tried that for aboot you'd have a hard brick.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
Does the DE comes with a SIM card?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bisquick24:
This is some bullsh*t...I was looking for the email.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Like the locked Verizon version, it has a SIM card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
I'm coming from AT&T to AOL unlimited plan so I need a new SiM and I don't want to go to the store thats why I wasn't so sure if it will come with a SIM inside.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
I doubt it will

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
Mine came with a sim card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tidefan13:
Really? I figured they didnt

Roll Tide!!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Yakuzahi:
Well, we going to wait for Monday to find out.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
This Is what Imnuts replied when I asked him about a system dump to create a odin image.

"You should be able too. You may need to repack the system image into a sparse file, but it should work for the other partitions."
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
I did the exact same. I had AT&T and did the AOL process for a Verizon unlimited data plan through eBay. Your new DE phone should have a new SIM card, so you'll have to take it to the Verizon store to get it activated whenever it arrives. They should be willing to help, it's in fact in their policy to grant assumption of liabilities will retaining the unlimited data plan... hell even the Verizon rep who helped me fully understood why I wanted to keep unlimited, as he would've done the same.

Good luck!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Since my gnex already has a Sim card, can I just use that one on my DE?

Also, should I power up the device with the Sim that comes with it or with the one from my gnex?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jwilliams0100:
So I wonder how many phones they stocked this time before they sold out? 20 every month is pathetic.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keennay:
You're asking the wrong crowd.... just take it to the Verizon store when you get it. They won't bite, I promise.

When I did the AOL process, I had a temporary 1st gen 4G phone since it was a month before the Note 3 Developer edition was originally released. You're most likely gonna want to register both the IMEI & SIM card of your Note 3 DE towards your Verizon account, which can be done at any of their stores.

My original SIM was too big for the Note 3, so I had to go to the Verizon store to make sure my account would actually recognize my Note 3. If you have any important info in your SIM, then they should be able to transfer that to your Note 3 SIM. I say it's always better to start over with a fresh SIM card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Thanks for the info.

Some time ago, I got a note 2 from my job and I just swapped SIMs and it just worked, but will pass by the store, just in case.