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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
FYI: Please don't get offended by me posting this thread. I searched and couldn't find anything dedicated to KNOX and discussions about it. So I created a thread where we can hammer out our ideas, and logic.

Firstly, here is a little video explaining what Samsung KNOX is:

[YOUTUBE]Yf3MRrRzUaM[/YOUTUBE]

My "cliff note" explanation of what KNOX is:

A virtual environment, on your phone, where running "un-approved" applications, will not affect the KNOX environment. In other words, it's like running a program like Virtual Box for your Note 3, and only pre-approved "limited" apps can run in this environment. In the video, it says how taking a picture, can be emailed and shared, yet outside of KNOX, you can't access this picture.

https://www.samsungknox.com/

KNOX has been in development for quite some time. What I have found out, it's like Fort Knox (get the pun?). Fort Knox is known to be impenetrable (http://ainulfarina.blogspot.com/2013/01/fort-knox-most-secure-vault-in-world.html). Samsung has partnered with various software and hardware companies to develop a platform for the infrastructure of business, with security in mind. We're talking about security on the hardware level. To market this, to tap into the business/enterprise world, using the Note 3 as the preferred paperless, go to device. To achieve this, they need sell the idea that security is king. However, they don't want to exclude the rest of the market of the common everyday individual. That's why Samsung tag line is "Work and play on one device".

This KNOX environment needs to be installed and set up. The desired list of apps would need to be pre-approved for your devise as part of the set-up process. I'm sure this is on an organizational level.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] noc007:
I have a couple of questions on KNOX which I hope the answer is Yes to both:

Will it work if the phone is un-rooted, but had been previously rooted?

Will it prevent MDM applications from reading personal stuff like installed text messages and other stuff outside of KNOX on the phone?

There are a few things that I'd like to do which requires root to do. A couple of examples, among many, are removing bloatware that can't be disabled and BT pairing a PS3 controller.

My employer has selected MobileIron for their MDM due to the head of Security having some relative there (nepotism) when there were plans to use and sell as a SaaS solution the less intrusive AirWatch. Interest in MobileIron by our customers is much lower than AirWatch since it doesn't fit into the SaaS model like our other services.

The big problem with MobileIron from an end user perspective is how intrusive it is. It logs everything and sends that info to the management server; this includes text messages. On company issued equipment, no privacy is to be expected however, that privacy is expected on my personal stuff. I'm told MobileIron has the capability to go through the phones storage and download anything.

I'll consider leveraging KNOX if those two questions have "Yes" as an answer. Frankly, my employer is being unreasonable with their mobile requirements (long story) and the head of Security maintains his ass as his hat with more power than he should because of his relationship with a VP or the CEO. I have been using an alternate method to the silliness of walking around with two phones that facilitates their electronic checks; I just don't advocate the solution.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
I have many friends who have rooted their phones, but none that I know use the KNOX environment. Even using the Note 2 for a full year, this is the first time i've heard of KNOX when exploring my Note 3.

I also want to know if triggering the KNOX flag, can that environment still be accessed, or even installed?

I can only assume the answer would be "yes" to your second questions, since it's a separate environment altogether. I understand that anything done outside KNOX mode is excluded from effecting it, however wouldn't it be the same from within?

To answer your first question, we would need someone who rooted their phone, and simply select KNOX from the app drawer, go through the install process and find out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] nygmam:
While I haven't chosen to activate or use Knox, I believe you are limited to installing apps from the Knox store. You can see the apps available on the store at the Knox Website.

Not only will Knox basically run all apps in a sandbox, it will only run Knox approved apps, further locking down the possibility of something bad being installed. You can't even take a screen shot in the Knox environment. Think of it as a locked down virtual box on your phone, that separates your work life from your private, and protects the work related data.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wing_addict_usa:
selinux
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
Once the KNOX WARRANTY VOID bootloader flag is set to 0x1, the phone is considered compromised and the KNOX secure container cannot be created. In other words, once you root, the KNOX sandbox will never function again.

The flag is there for exactly this purpose - to disallow compromised devices from accessing secure apps and systems that require sandboxing; the fact Samsung also started using it to deny warranty claims is a side effect caused by their greed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Steve Lazarus:
I really think Samsung should of had a business line of Note 3 devices, as compared to every phone having the Knox "container", I think it's a contributing Factor to the bootloop issues that are widespread and creating more headaches than it's worth.

There's going to be a very small population of users that will actually consider even using Knox, yet as stated, is creating major issues in the Note 3 community.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
What was Samsung thinking of putting KNOX on the Note 3s with unlocked bootloaders? If simply rooting the phone triggers the KNOX flag, permanently flagging the phone for any future dealings with this secure mode for businesses, wouldn't it be simpler to only have the flag if rooted?

So if your phone is not rooted, then you can install KNOX. If you phone currently is rooted, then no KNOX.

My fear is that other companies, that don't like people rooting the phones where their apps are installed on, might hop on this, and consider this as a solution.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wing_addict_usa:
knox flag is the same thing as the note ii warranty flag. wtf do they call it knox

anyway its bs i cant use knox if im rooted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] muqali:
Just open the phone, use some fine wires to pump enough voltage and current into it to fry some stuff. Make it look like a charger or battery issue. Warranty still "valid". They want to screw us, we can screw back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Limeybastard:
So I wasn't the only one. Did this once back in the Nokia 2110 days. They got smart and put tamper proof stickers on them these days. Some I heard even hide them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bobbyphoenix:
You can root, install ROMs, trigger all the trip wires they have, and if something does go wrong, or there is a real issue that has nothing to do with rooting like dust under the screen, but now Samsung refuses to honor the warranty because the Knox is void, try to install a ROM that is not for the phone and hard brick it. 100% no chance of it ever booting again. No tamper evidence of opening the phone. "Gee Samsung I don't know what happened. I went to turn it on, and nothing happens. I'm under warranty, so I'll send it in for repair." "Hello customer, We confirm the phone will not turn on. We are replacing it for you under warranty. Here is your new phone." Hmm.. I can see people doing this because Samsung is trying to avoid warranty claims for legit issues.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zmore:
Actually, Samsung will still fix a KNOX-tripped device, as long as it's under 12-months old, just not for FREE. You pay shipping + materials + labor, which is still way better than having to a re-buy a new $700 device. We can argue all day that Samsung shouldn't be "lame" in refusing to fix certain hardware problems that could not possibly be blamed on rooting & ROMming, but that's their right.

(Read Samsung's warranty fine-print yourself if you'd like)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] 01010001:
That's like saying buying a laptop that comes with Windows and then installing Linux on it voids the warranty. They are getting absurd amounts of money from us, it's just pure greed on their part.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zmore:
PC makers would do the same if they could. They started down that road with Trusted Computing and secureboot, but PCs have historically been more open.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
I TOTALLY agree! Again, why would the brain-heads over at Sammys have this KNOX crap on all their flag ship phones, with unlocked bootloaders? Wouldn't it make more sense to sell a business/enterprise Note 3 directly to businesses with this KNOX crap pre-installed with locked bootloaders, and leave us flag ship unlocked bootloaders alone.

GEEZUS! [face-palm] It just doesn't make sense.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
I'm telling you all. If this doesn't get bypassed somehow, and it remains completely permanent, other companies will eventually get on board with this nonsense. Especially DRM with music and video. This KNOX flag just might stand the test, and remain.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] d474corruption:
Knox seems to me, to be a bit of a redundant idea.

If you cannot protect your own device, because let's be serious security starts at the USER not some software you have installed, then watch the websites you visit and the apps you load from third parties.

Knox is a false sense of security if you ask me. It makes the inexperienced user feel like their device is impenetrable, which it isn't.

Its like a desktop, your desktop will only be as secure as you make it, based on how you use it. There will always be security threats, always. You need to learn how to protect YOURSELF rather than depend on some bogus app.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] moto211:
I think you misunderstand the purpose of knox. Knox does not exist to provide security to the end user. Knox is for BYOD business environments. Because the devices are user not employer provided, it would be an administrative nightmare to inspect every device that users want to bring into the corporate environment. By leveraging knox, a company can institute a policy that user provided devices cannot have the knox flag tripped if they want access to the corporate network resources and applications. Trip the flag, no access for you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lawalty:
I agree, however it should be more a toggle than a permanent switch. Example, if your device is presently rooted with a custom recovery, then no knox. If your device was rooted but not anymore with oem recovery, then yes to knox.

This permanent flag is disheartening.

However, I can envision using this as a good selling point. Taking a pic of your phone's screen for ebay, showing to the world it has NEVER been rooted. I guess you would have proof.
[Themer General Discussion] Raghuvanshi1:
Themer is taking up 121 MB of my RAM ... is it normal ?? because being a launcher its quite a big amount of RAM occupancy
[Themer General Discussion] shubham540:
Themer requires more than 200MB RAM to work smoothly and fluently...

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] invaliduser1:
Im trying to deodex an app on my htc but im gettingvthat error trying to run baksmali and smali.jars can anyone tell me a fix i got them with android kitchen running on linux mint 13 any help welcome

Edit i got the files working but still cant deodex a specific app i have a pic of error screen can someone point me to a fix.

Edit2 made progress i think but now im getting an error 293 im having some issue with bootclasspaths i hope someone can help me out
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jane11:
Is there any tutorial how to upgrade Android in Samsung i9100 mobile?

I can use Odin3 ver.1.85 to flash the mobile but not sure where I can choose the correct Android version I need.

thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chiadrum:
Hi all I have been running Liquid Smooth happily for awhile now and it is very smooth,everything works fine all the time and plenty of custom options as well as Halo,which I really like.

Thinking about making the leap to Pac Man,seduced by the "Have it all" claims.Just looking for some advice and feedback from folks who have used it.

Better to run the 4.2 stable?

What are the 4.3 nightly advantages?

If you are happy with this ROM why?

Any bugs to be aware of?

I see folks posting about mms not working.

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] huntinwabbits:
I've not personally used it but my brother flashed it this past weekend and he didn't make it through a whole day. Said it was way too buggy for him to use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] flyestAC:
Do a nandroid, flash PAC man, test it for yourself.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] epagib:
Pacman has been working great for me. No MMS, GPS or data issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] chiadrum:
Good to know thx.
[Samsung Galaxy Pocket] LeCosaque:
So I don't want to use custom roms, because they don't have Bulgarian language supp and most have problems with kies...

I know that there is a way to mod android 2.3.6 stock rom systemUI to look like that of 4.2.2 with 14 toggles...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2315342

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1289896

So i wasted 2 days on this and I failed miserably. So I wanted to ask if any of the devs can mod my systemUI or creat a flashable zip update for stock rom... Please I beg of you for this...

Thanks in advance :)
[Sony Xperia ZL] zombiej79:
Wondering if there's a way to make the volume keys work to skip tracks I have ps vita headphones bit they don't have a button and they sound great

proud user of Sony xperia zl

Sony xperia tablet z

HTC One xl

Samsung galaxy tab 2 7"

Asus tf101 transformer

two Sony xperia arc's

that's it right now lol
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gencho81:
Hello to everybody,

First of all sorry for my english.

So about what is the tread

There is arround 10 bricked phones in Bulgarian Android Forum.Becouse we cant find where is the problem I decide to ask here.

Problem: After flashing stock test 4.3 and downgrade after back to 4.1.2 the result is --IMEI 0049 and Permanent Test Mode.

what we know until now:

Phones bought from shops for phones reported they downgrade back without issues

Phones bought from mobile operators -bricked IMEI

Flashing again 4.3 after brick do not restore IMEI

P.s

Sorry if the tread is on wrong place and 10x for your opinions about problem
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bahtsiz_bedevi:
Find someone knows English better to translate it for you

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2420881
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wada7o:
If you dont have efs backup then you probably need the z3x box to make repair for your imei and change it to the original one didnt test the ariza patch on this kind of problem but why not give it a shot
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicktheo49:
Hi Im hoping someone can help me

my note 2 n7105 keeps freezing I unlocked it last week by downgrading it.... however the phone freezes now and then, so I take it it has something to do with the firmware I put on it ..

can anyone advise me a rooted good fast firmware I can try out on my handset what mite stop all this freezing

Please someone reply will be great full when someone calls me sometimes I cant swipe to answer as its frozen

thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicktheo49:
I need a good rom im not a pro at rooting I kind of know what im doing if I have the firmware and I know how to use odin

Please someone reply
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3vo3d:
Why don't you install the newest stock rom for your region?

However, if you want custom I use the Jedi x19 rom with the latest Saber kernel.

I honestly don't think any custom rom will be flawless there will always be a trade off.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nicktheo49:
Hi mate thanks for your reply I really appreciate it have you got a link of were I can get the latest stock rom from I cant find it on google my region is uk

thank you mate
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bulbous:
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-N7100

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3vo3d:
Sammobile is where I got my modem from. I'm UK also.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] decebal:
can anyone post valid inside information for the new ROM releases ?

something like ... "Imate .. 2 weeks", "O2 .. 1 week" ...

thanks
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wmcpotter:
Received it's 4.3 update on Sprint last Wednesday for my completely stock HTC One. I noticed after update was completed my WiFi would not remain connected. Checked all possible problems I could check with my phone and WiFi, none fixed the issue. I now, after going through a HUGE run around have a new One and keep getting notified of the 4.3 update and was just wondering if anyone else has ran into this issue? Holding off on doing the update due to not wanting the phone to have the same problem and to have go through all the crap I had to the first time just to get a replacement phone.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alishak:
Yea, i am having the same exact issues after updating to 4.3 last week on the

International

HTC One......It is defenitely a software issue, as my One was perfectly fine before the update.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wmcpotter:
Plz do me a HUGE favor and notify Google on this issue the more people call the faster we get the fix and idk about u but I'm getting really impatient waiting for them to fix this
[Fuhu Nabi 2] nabimom:
I just installed the 2.1 update on my child's Nabi 2. I would like to root it so that she could have some of the apps in the Google Play Store. Can I use Nabi Lab 2 to root it, or has there been an update since then? I download Nabi Lab 2, and it said in the instructions that I needed to be on version 1.9.37 so I was afraid to use it. Any information on how to root my Nabi 2 with the latest update on it would be greatly appreciated.
[Fuhu Nabi 2] aicjofs:
I guess the short answer is no you cannot use Nabi Lab, or any other program right now, to take a stock Nabi at 2.1.27 and install root and gapps.

The more descriptive version is: There is ~504MB of space where the ROM, root, and gapps(with Google Play) need to go. The 2.1.27 install takes I think around 497MB, root is small but uses ~1M, Gapps uses maybe ~40M. That puts ~538MB into what can only hold ~504MB. Basically it doesn't all fit.

There hasn't really been a consensus on what is the best method to work around this. The easiest is to delete some kids applications and use that space for Gapps. For example the Wings software(apks) is close to 100MB. Deleting that gives more then enough space, but it's not optimal for those that have kids that want Wings. It is by far the best bang for the buck. 2 huge files. A lot of the other kids software is 3-5MB, and you have to delete 8 or 9 of them.

The general premise would be:

Stock tablet on 2.1.27

Use NabiLab/or whatever to Install TWRP and then MAKE A BACKUP!

Install Root

In Android use a Root file explorer such as ES File Explorer(I think it's still downloadable on the Nabi store/Amazon) and delete some apps in /system/vendor/apps

Use TWRP/Nabilab to install Gapps.

OR

Stock tablet on 2.1.27

Use NabiLab/or whatever to Install TWRP and then MAKE A BACKUP!

Use TWRP file manager to delete some apps in /system/vendor/apps

Use TWRP/Nabilab to install Root and Gapps.

If that sounds like something you want to try but need more detail on exactly how let us know.

mehtuus just made a beta version of ROOT installer for Nabi that should remove Wings automatically. Easier then the by hand method, it's beta but he does good work.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2172843&highlight=nabi
[Fuhu Nabi 2] nabimom:
Thanks

Thanks so much for the quick reply. You gave me some great information. Do you think I should go ahead and root it or would it be better to wait a little while until more info is known about this issue?
[Fuhu Nabi 2] aicjofs:
Really depends on how much you would miss Wings. I think we will make a way to keep Wings. Just haven't got it there yet. It's not so much an issue, as it is: will you miss Wings app?
[Fuhu Nabi 2] eduller:
Can't get TWRP to work

I'm endlessly frustrated, and I'm hoping there is just some stupid little thing I'm overlooking.

Have an older Nabi 2. Rooted fine, Gapps working fine, great.

Have a newer Nabi 2 for my older child. I CANNOT cannot cannot get TWRP to install or work. I have the ADB drivers installed. It's recognized in the device manager. Nabi is connected. PDAnet is installed properly. ADB debugging is on. This is a brand new stock Nabi 2, version 2.1. I just keep getting the stupid dead red exclamation point android dude. I've used every method I have found on this site. NabiLab is what I used for the older Nabi with no problems. Example:

I run NabiLab. Device is detected, plugged in. Go to install recovery and root. It gets to the "Press enter when you see text on the screen after Nabi logo" and then the Nabi just gets stuck on the logo screen, indicating the drivers aren't installed. But they ARE installed. I'm about to throw this against the wall. I can reboot the device with the power and up keys and the "text on the screen" does appear, but it just goes to the dead android afterward. Can anyone help?
[Fuhu Nabi 2] Archon810:
I'd be also interested in figuring out the definitive way to root and stick on gapps on this with the latest update.
[Fuhu Nabi 2] aicjofs:
It's pretty messy. Everyone seems to be rolling with the "delete Wings" way, but it haphazard and confusing to almost everyone. I'm still up in the air for a way to make an automated script for those that aren't technical and would like a one click solution.

Funny timing I just finished writing a post on my blog about it.

http://nabtabhacks.com/
[Fuhu Nabi 2] Hawk7183:
I am really confused about rooting my son's Nabi 2. Everyone says remove wings and it should be able to root, but I did that and still can't root it. Just curios if it is possible because I read a report that said there was software in the 2.1 update to stop people from rooting it. I've been going at this since noon and tried everyway I could find and it still doesn't work.
[Fuhu Nabi 2] zyphex:
I'm not able to remove wings for some reason it cannot find it :/

Anyone have any suggestions?

"

rm: can't remove '/system/vendor/app/fuhu_WingsChallenge.apk': No such file or directory

rm: can't remove '/system/vendor/app/fuhu_WingsUniversity.apk': No such file or directory
[Fuhu Nabi 2] Eric Karz:
look in

data/addon_res/vendor/app

hth
[Fuhu Nabi 2] esparks004:
If your only wanting a few gapps, and not full root there is a simple method.

Using your google chrome browser on your PC, download and install apk downloader extension for browser. Use any google account info from any rooted device to register with apk downloader. Then go to play store on browser, search for app u need, then instead of hitting install, click the apk downloader extension button in toolbar. It will download the apk to your PC. Then simply transfer the apk file to your nabi.

Hope this helps.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] DarthCitizen:
So since it doesn't matter once a year is up and warranty expires, rooting is no big deal, right?

I'm unrooted, and with t-mobile releasing the 4.3 OTA update soon, I was thinking to either root then, or after warranty expires because I don't expect any further updates beyond 4.3 in the next year.

Any thoughts? I don't wanna flash a ROM, just for Titanium and to remove carrieriq and other bloat. Thanks all.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] edscholl:
Rooting is no big deal regardless.