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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] BeyondtheTech:
Did you try shutting off the digital signature check on your Wizard?

Details on how to do that are on my blog, October archives.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Wiz:
Yes, and I have a hunch that it is actually the script that rejects after an OS check. The error message is: unable to install. Uncertified system software detected (which indicates that WM5 is not accepted as target OS)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
This is caused by the install script in the BBclient package rather than the Wizard's OS. This was reported before on non-O2 devices.

There was a trick to bypass that however. It should be somewhere in the xda-developer Himalaya threads. the BBConnect clinet was delivered in ROM version 1.92, issues by O2.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Koksie:
I have the BBConnect cab that was integrated in the latest T-Mobile MDA Compact ROm, if anyone sees any use for it. I have not tried it, on my Vario, since i figured it would not work. But if anyone needs it, just post here.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] AlexL:
Hey Guys,

It has been a while for this thread. Was just wondering if anyone had heard anything new or perhaps a timeline for BBConnect on WM 5.

Cheers :arrow:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ScottC:
Bumparoo... Anyone seen a client that'll install on the Wizard?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] q-biq:
blackberry is out, we stopped sell blackberry subscriptions a few days ago / workin at vodafone :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Just Wondered

Just bumping this one as now that RIM's settled down I was wondering if anyone has heard of any news on BB connect for WM5
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] alyg:
Re: Just Wondered

Yes, any news? It'll be wonderful if there is one now!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DREAMBOXER:
T-Mobile Germany released a BB Client Software!

I am not sure if they are offering it somewhere else or if this can be used with every wizard.

I did not install it ( no need for it ) so I cannot tell you if its only German or Multilanguage

You may download it right here:

https://after-sales-service.t-mobile.de/eg_online/t-mobile/t_mda_vario.htm
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] squiggs1982:
Installs in English! :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
I don't suppose anyone has a copy of the instructions in English? Would hate to work my way through the pdf for days and find someone has one handy....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jurnaza:
I attempted to install it on my unlocked 8125 and I get the message "Unable to install. Uncertified system software detected."

J
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] squiggs1982:
Odd. I'm running it on a xda mini s with the qtek rom, installed like a dream and in English.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jkossowsky:
Can someone please post this file here as I cannot seem to download it from the t-mobile.de site.

thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tr0gg:
running the Xda_Minis_Upgrade_v2.21.4.101.exe rom, and downgraded the radio to RADIO_ROM_Wizard_GSM_11210.exe.

Here the device connected to my BES and took the password, but again failed to connect a second time.

Also loaded the RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe rom to confirm that i can actually get it working with my o2 sim.

this worked fine, so i upgraded the radio to 9100_radio_only_1.13.10 and it is still happily connected

so to summerise i could make it work with tmobile 1.6.2.4 rom, and 1.13.10 radio

is there anything else anyone wants tested?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Wish we could figure out what the Tmobile Rom has that some of the newer roms do not have. Anyway to do a compare of the files? Sounds like it isn't the radio, but localized to the rom itself. What happens if you don't load any of the extended rom programs? Does it still work?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Has anyone had any luck on getting this installed on a Wiza100?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jasoncheesemanuk:
Well it seems that T-Mobile Germany have released an AKU2 update, so I presume a UK one will be following soon (I don't have access to the UK download site). I presume that the BB Connect software works with that to.

Anyone willing to try the T-Mobile Germany AKU2 version and see

a) if you can change the language to English

b) can unlock it

c) works with BB Connect
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
where's the ROM Jason? Post a link or put it in the ftp and I'm sure we'll have a go.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
What unit did you do this on? Are you saying that if I use the ROMs you just mentioned, I can use my Cingular 8125 on my USA BES server and it will work? Does it matter that I'm on Cingular and not TMobile?

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tmcquitty:
Works for me..

Using JoninLA's method, I have connected my MDA to a BES at my office.

Works well. Instant email, just had to reconfigure the Locale settings to US vs UK.

I haven't been able to get my calendar working yet, and I do prefer the AKU2 rom's screens better. But, in all, BB Connect is much more important to me.

Any ideas on how to get the calendar sync'ing? I did set the checkmark on the MDA.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
Re: Works for me..

What network are you on? Can someone who has successfully done this *please* just reply with what model, roms, geographic location, and carrier you're using so everyone knows whether they can or can't do this with their specific configuration and situation? Thanks.

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tmcquitty:
I am on TMobile, with the blackberry plan.

I was using the UK rom LoninLA specified. I believe it is: RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

As I just got the device, I have been playing on it a lot. I used to be here when the XDA hacking scene was "new".
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Would be very interested if anyone in Germany has downloaded the new AKU2 TMO Rom (http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/t-mobile/vario_aku2.0_05-2006.zip) as it presumably works with the BB Connect as a previous post suggested. I'll download it tongith and have a look at it but not being fluent it's going to be a touch interesting, still at least I should be able to see which radio ROM and base ROM it is using and maybe we can work from there.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
On my Cingular 8125 I installed:

ROM 1.6.2.4

Radio 01.13.10

And could not install the BB Connect software, it told me

"Unable to install. Uncertified system software software detected"

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Kelkin,

I Have two models of the wizard, tmobile mda (wiza200) and a Cingular 8125(wiza100)

I flashed them both with RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe

Installed BBConnect_PocketPC_TMO_DE.cab onto the wiza200

changed connections settings for Cingular, ran the desktop software and successfully was able to send and recieve messages through the pocketpc.

I recieved the "Unable to install. Uncertified system software software detected" on the wiza100.

I backed up the wiza200 with sprite backup and restored in on the wiza100. This did not work, the blackberry control panel would never start.

looking at the files that are installed from the blackberry cab several of the dll files and the bbsettings.cpl have several references to WIZA200.

Using Flexhex I changed all refrences of WIZA200 to WIZA100, but all this accomplished was a bbsettings.cpl that did nothing :-).

so to summarize,

Wiza200 on Cingular network with rom RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe works great.

Wiza100, unable to install..

perhaps if it were possible to make a wiza100 report itself as a wiza200, any thoughts?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
Thanks Taint,

Very informative. At least I know I'm not crazy! So you can use the BB connect on your MDA200 on the Cingular network? I'd love to do that! Maybe I'll have to get myself and MDA then. Going to be expensive without a contract though :/

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Keith,

Yes I can use the mda (wiza200) with the blackberry connect on Cingular, the mail worked and the calender synced but I did not run it for any extended amount of time (borrowed blackberry sim). I will be getting a blackberry sim this week and will report back how well it works in a real environment.

I have been looking at the cost of mda's on Ebay and they go for around $300-350USD for a new one, you could probably sell your 8125 for about the same.

I still think it may be possible to get the software to work if we can find a way to make the wiza100 report itself as a wiza200 as but then there is no guarentee the IMIE of a wiza100 is allowed on the RIM servers.

Also, In my search for a bbconnect solution I came across this cab for bbconnect, It loads but I can not get it to connect, the only thing I can see why it doesnt is that the userID and Password are blank under the APN settings, I have not been able to figure a out a solution but perhaps someone else can.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Bushrod:
Here's my version. I used WINCE Cab Manager to strip out the setup.dll requirement. Installs on my PPC-6700, but doesn't run (probably because it's CDMA). Installs and runs on the emulator but doesn't detect the radio as being on. Someone please try it and let me know if it works

I'm just curious. You never know!

**EDIT** This is an edited CAB of the latest T-MO DE version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
bushrod,

once step closer!!

the cab file loaded on my 8125 however it does not run the program (It starts then terminates in the background). I believe this is due to the wiza200 refrences in the dll files and the bbsettings.cpl does someone know how to edit these files and still have them function, If I use flexhex and make any changes the program does not load at all.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bassettg:
I tried both the above BB Connect CAB files and had similar experiences. My HW is a generic HTC Wizard running the Qtek 2.17 WWE ROM.

The "normal" BB Connect package installs perfectly, starts, but I cannot get the desktop to connect (and therefore provision the service). It looks really, really close, but not close enough.

The "no setup dll" package installs, but the setup exits as mentioned above, so its not even close on my system.

Sigh........
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jorono:
BB Connect not currently compatible with AKU 2.0

According to the German T-Mobile the AKU 2.0 is not compatible with the BB Connect software yet. T-Mobile Germany plan to release a compatible BB Connect version in July. I guess we'll just have to wait until July then, or for us already running AKU 2.0 to downgrade.... too bad :cry:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Damn, I've been missing some of this discussion - sorry catching up again. So Tr0gg upgraded to the 1.13 radio and it still worked. before I blow out the ROM on my unit from a working TMo config with BB.... has anyone then tried the RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe QTEK ROM as last time I tried it it was a sight more stable than the TMo? If it works with the BB I'm ditching the TMo ROM immediately.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
JoninLA, di you try upgrading the radio yet? Hopefully an upgraded radio will give us a bit more stability. Almost getting ready to dump the phone for perhaps something a little bit more stable with blackberry connect, perhaps a E61.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
sting0r, haven't done it yet but am tempted to try it. The last two days I have left my 1Gb SD card out of the phone and have not had a single freeze up or reboot. Gonna try that old AKU1 QTEK ROM in the next few days and the radio upgrade but am waiting for a device to turn up to use as a test bed in the office.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
JoninLA, did you decide to take the plunge with the radio rom? I actually had a problem with my minisd as well. One died on my, probably was the wizard and now my new one just got corrupted, wouldnt recognize in my wizard. I had to plug it into my pc and format. Oh well...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
sting0r - you reminded me! Just blew the 1.13 radio ROm update and the device is running fine - tested send and receive on BB Connect and it works smoothly so feel free to upgrade the radio (radio rom 1.13.10).

To add to that, I just blew the ROM out with the QTEK RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe which has the 1.13 to see if the QTEk worked and I could ditch this TMo ROM and it also works fine with BB connect.

Edit: sorry if anyone took that advice - it installs and connects but at this time I am unable to get to send and receive mail - trying to isolate if it's the BES or the Device......
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Let me know how you make out. Hopefully, it's just a tempory problem for you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
OK after back and forward on ROMs's etc, the 1.13 radio ROm didn't work for me. It gets further than other later ROM's as you get the BB icon and it connects and gets an IP from the BES but it doens't send or receive email which is a slight problem.... Am now back on the 1.12 Radio ROM and will just leave it at that until the July (well, we'll see....) release of the connect for AKU2.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Oh, too bad. Wish we could figure out a way to hack up a generic version of the blackberry client, so we can use on any windows mobile device with any rom. Don't know why they go through the effort to tie it to specific roms / devices....

Just picked the motorola q for my wife and boy would I kill to get blackberry connect on that. Wow it's so cool.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Bushrod:
sting0r, try this one. I found the MPx220 version and edited it to change the Max version id. I got it to load on my MPx200 with WM5 but couldn't get anywhere else with it.

Hey, you never know!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Very interesting, will see if it installs tonight. I wonder how I can test it, since I would have to get the blackberry data plan added no? Was anyone able to to that on the mpx?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DUlrich1227:
wow i just got this to install on my 8125.. i will have to wait till i got to work in the AM to see if it syncs though..

i see the icon in the programs menu but when i click on it nothing happens not sure ill report back in the am
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DUlrich1227:
welll it doesnt work yet..

the black berry desktop manager does not find the phone..

there is a PIN involved..

i am going to get with our bb administrator here and look into this more..

i am wondering if the PIN was defined in the cab install if that would work ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
What rom are you using? Basically the only way to get it to work is to load up the original Tmobile UK rom. Take a look at this thread a few pages back for more info.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
Has anyone got this working on an Exec with Cingular?

Were you still using this RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe ROM?

Thanks,

JAB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Southern_Man:
Well...

I have no issue getting a connection.

But when I install the BB Desktop software and try to associate my device with our BES3.6 server here, it responds:

"The account is not properly provisioned on the server. Please contact your Sys Admin"

Yet my 7290 works just fine when using the BB7290 software

Confused....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
I guess no one has found a way to install the BB connect SW on a Cingular 8125 yet? I wish they'd at least offer it as an option, I'd even pay for it!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
I still think if we had some way for the wiza100 to report itself as a wiza200 we would be able to get the software to work, perhaps if we could get a developer to write an app that would accomplish this we could get the 8125 to run the software.

anybody know of the best place to request such a thing, or if such a thing is even possible?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
Need some help.

Running a Univeral with the base TMO Rom 1.13.53 WWE and radio 1.03.01. I am running on the Cingular network.

I have installed the BB Connect software. It connected the moment the BES admin added me to the BES network, since then it has not really worked properly.

In looking at the Initial window for BB connect titled "Instant Email - ", I see Lookup, Settings, Register Now, Suspend and Hide enabled. Email Setup is disabled.

Under the Settings button I see:

Identity - my pin, my IMEI and sometimes an IP address.

Under the Status tab I see

Service: Not Connected, Data Tunnel Available, Network Available at different times, but typically Not Connected. I also believe that I see an IP address when I the state is on Network Available on the Identity tab, but since I can't see both tabs at the same time, I am not 100% certain.

I also have the option to suspend, restart, and uninstall on this screen. And a couple of Suspend Options.

Under the Service List, I see:

Blackberry [ALP]

Blackberry [CMIME]

Both of the above services are active. The CMIME Service has some synchronization options available.

Under the IT Policy tab, I see:

One was created yesterday and the name is default

Options Tab:

Connection: Blackberry Solution. Under the details button, APN -- blackberry.net, Username = rim, Password =password, IP Address - 206.51.26.189, Remote Port - 19781, Local POrt = 19780

Pim Tab:

Option to Sync Calendar.

About Tab:

Blackberry Version : 2.1.1.20

Transport Version 2.1.0.44

ROM Version: 1.13

System Version: 227.214.54.234

Device Type: HTC-Universal

Thanks,

JAB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Did you by chance switch all the gprs settings over to cingular?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
Yes. I am about to download the TMo GPRS settings and try that now.

Thanks,

JAB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
Interesting. I will not let me load the imate carrier specific CAB files.

Any pointers to how to manually change the GPRS settings?

Thanks,

JAB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Start/settings/connections/connections/manage existing connections.

also make sure gprs settings are set to Chap for cingular.

This is how I first setup my wizard to connect to our bes server, loaded the tmobile rom and then changed all the connection settings for cingular.

hope this helps and good luck.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
Chap for Cingular?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
thats the way the stock cingular rom is setup.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Jab, you're running a 1.13 ROM. The BB Connect only works with the 1.6.2.4 TMo UK ship ROM (if you want WWE). We've tried running later ROM's but with no luck - all installs fine, tunnel available etc but won't connect and download. Same for the Radio ROM, anything above 1.12 is not working. You'd need to downgrade it to get it to work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
JoninLA,

I can't get that ROM to load on my exec. :(/

JAB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
Have you used lokiwiz to SuperCID unlock?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
The Jasjar is unlocked. Just can't get that wizard rom to load.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] taintbad:
Isnt the jasjar the universal? if its the universal you would need to find a bbconnect rom for that, I do not believe a universal rom would install on a wizard.

somebody correct me if I am wrong.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
I have the bbConnect installed and currently in a "blocked" mode. I have seen all of the corp email on the machine once. Then the machine gets blocked.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
If it's the Universal we are talking about then I can't help you on the ROM version you need (though I would assume a similar early AKU1 ROm would work - there may be discussion in the Universal forum). I do know I saw somewhere that the BB Connect software works with the Universal so there should be guidance elsewhere.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ivanoharris:
Working, then not working - service blocked on outgoing

Was hoping someone might be able to help me with my issue. Been following the thread for a month or so, thought I'd finally give it a try.

T-Mo USA

MDA

Unlocked CID

TMo UK 1.6.2.4 ROM

Radio 01.12.10

- Called T-Mo, changed my plan to a BB plan, something like BB minutes & more

- Called my Notes Administrator, got myself added to the BB Enterprise Server

- Installed BB Desktop, BB Connect, created a new location in Notes, configured everything as given to me in the documentation

- Before changing the T-Mo plan, the BB Instant Email status on the MDA never said connected, just Network Available. 15 minutes after chaninging the plan, it now says Connected.

- For about 1 hour, I was successfully able to Send e-mail from the MDA & receive e-mail in BB fashion as well.

- Then everything stopped. Unsure if I did something accidentally like register one to many times????, or screw up a setting inadvertantly???

- Now, nothing gets pushed in to my MDA, and trying to send an e-mail fails, with a status of "Service Blocked"

- Tried to uninstall and reinstall the BB Client on the MDA, still screwed up. Any thoughts??? Have I screwed up something in Notes, on the MDA, the BES server is confused????

Update -- Popped in a SIM card from a workmate's Blackberry, changed nothing else, and it now works like a charm. Does this mean there's a problem on T-Mo's end, on the BES end, or ????

Update -- Now working. T-Mo had set me up with BIS, not BES access. Once changed, working like a chram for at least two hours this time!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
this thread is about BB on the Wizard, not Universal
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jab:
I realized that after my post. The advice proffered has helped, just haven't gotten it all working yet.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cyentsang:
BB Connect on new UK Ship rom

Any knows if the BB Connect (german) will work with new TMO UK ship rom in US?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JoninLA:
No, it won't work with any AKU2 ROM's at this time
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kelkin:
BB Connect coming to 8125?

According to our local Cingular B2B rep, BB Connect is coming to the 8125 but he didn't have a date. I have no idea how accurate the info is, but I thought I'd share what I was told.

-Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sting0r:
Anyone try the new tmobile UK rom? Maybe bb connect will work with that one now :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonyb15re:
just tried the tmob rom, base rom doesnt work with the old bbconnect, I updated the radio to 1.11 as per the other bb thread that I started, still doesnt work, moving back to old UK rom and old DE BB Connect as I type.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sth:
Well,

please don't think I'm an expert but I got Blackberry Running running on the MDA Vario/Wizard.

What did I do:

Unlocked the device with Lokiwiz02b

Installed MDA_Vario_1060202_103_11210_TMNL_Ship.exe, available on the XDA ftp site

Updated the radio Rom to 01.12.10, as mentioned in this thread, again from the xda-ftp.

Then configured it against our BES server, synchronised via the BBconnect tool available on the German T-mobile site.

At first I got an IP for about 1 sec & then nothing, no connection. Restarted the Connection service for Blackberry on the MDA and it has been running fine since then.

As mentioned by a lot of guys before in this thread the clue seems to be in the radio version (I tried a LOT!!) and in using a series 1 ROM, didn't get anything running on a AKU2 ROM.

Ow, I almost forgot, I'm running a Vodafone(!!) sim, so no problems with the T-mobile BB client