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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] linebacker71:
Would not surprise me as well seeing as how Verizon likes to keep everything on lock down.

I hope Samsung continues to make developer devices as it helps the Android community immensely.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
Well balls....had to list my DevEd for sale on swappa tonight and buy retail version :crying: My work is crazy weird about knox status. Burnt out of arguing with them....

Was also wondering about the page for Dev Edition being taken down, came here to let people know, but apparently its been noted :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrlaigle:
DE page is back up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Nice and still back ordered. lol

Looks like they bring them back at the beginning of the month, so they should be available in the next couple of days.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] INFRNL:
these seem like they are more trouble than they are worth. maybe they will be more available when the note 4 comes out:laugh:

I am perfectly fine with my retail, but it would definitely be nice if verizon just sold unlocked versions from the get go. what makes them so special to force those that want to play to try and get a dev ed

The only thing I like about verizon is their coverage
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Agreed 100%.

The only reason I stay with them is the old school plan I have, with unlimited data, but my contract expired today and I'm just waiting to see if they kick me out of something like that.

Also, the only reason I might get another DE is that I can't find a similar phone (unlocked, rem batt, SD card and be able to run CM) that works on vericrooks network.

On another note, just got a notification from Samsung, of having a device on backorder. Never got that before, so they might have fixed the notifications also.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
My contract has been expired for 2yrs and I am still on my nation wide 1400 minute unlimited text/data family plan.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Thats great to hear. I do have my doubts that they will continue to ignore people like us for ever.

Then again, hopefully, by the time they do something about, maybe Tmo will have better coverage.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I don't live in a 4G area but when we travel around I get it good on the interstate. So I splurge and start a big download and enjoy watching the speed go up and down as distance changes between towers. After lingering in a city area I noticed I was being throttled down to some very low speeds. It became clear that the throttling was very efficient and sensitive to the network loads, after watching the speed vary between 53 KB/sec to 4 MB/sec. That was very tolerable so I don't see why VZW is making such a big deal over unlimited while the other carriers (Sprint buys bandwidth from VZW to extend coverage, free roaming to customers) take advantage to steal customers.

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
It's simple, pure greed.

They know that they can't milk people with minutes and txt forever,so they placed these artificial barriers early on (2GB allowance per month), so when people got to the point where they use that on a monthly basis, they can rape your wallet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] blacknight1114:
DE is just another way for verizon to charge you for a different device and put tabs on those who buy them. I switched to us cellular and I see xda has no support for this device on us cellular. ...coincidence???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrmark75:
Not a coincidence at all the dev's community for USC is very small and their service is sub par. Although if you wait 3 more years the full buyout by sprint then you will be on their network. I have enjoyed 23 years of USC, loved no bootloader locks but just had it with their crap 4G network so I came to Verizon last year. Speeds are night and day.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gwartan:
Anyone still wanting a dev edition?

I am looking to get rid of mine. I was looking to do some development, but my company pays for my monthly bill, and our new security guru will not allow rooted/unlocked devices to contain company data. NOTE: I have not rooted or altered this Dev Note 3.

I was looking to put it up on swappa, I'll check back or pm me if anyone is interested. Putting it up for cost $750.

I have the original packaging (dev box) and charger.

http://swappa.com/listing/TZA308/view
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gwartan:
Sold.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
ill be posting mine up for sale any minute now....

Edit: sold.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
4.4 bootloader

I see that the twrp 2.7 is up for the tmo n3. Does anyone have a way to get such and unlocked bootloader for dev edition?

I don t know if samsung will update this device. We just need a bootloader that flashes on this dev ed and allows a custom recovery.

Can I flash a 4.4 aosp or tw or I need special recovery /boot.img to b able to do this?

I am on mje with twrp 2.6.3.10 and b6 and colx kernel.

TIA
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Besides safe strap?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I just installed and tested the 2.7 for 4.3 TWRP and is fine. Install pacman rom & cm11 with TWRP 2.6.3.10 + also fine. More I hear about Kitkat the less I like. Just be sure to keep using the recoverys designed for 4.3.

I'm thinking the reason samsung won't give us the goods is that we'll be able to use it to unlock the retail guys.

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
I suspect the same, although I think the culprit is Verizon in this. I don't think Samsung cares.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
At the end I want to b able to run a tw 4.4 and/or a AOSP.

Not cool if we get stuck on 4.3 bootloaders forever. not cool.

Sammy should be able to update 4.3 to 4.4 official such that we can get the booloader upgraded.

Right...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I'm not going to lose any sleep pining for 4.4. If all you want is tw then the retail version would do. Right now 4.3 is just a number because this phone rocks!

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
I agree that this phone rocks. To bad that sammy does not.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Yeah but the real tyrants are VZW & AT&T samsung wouldn't care.

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
Saw over at the Dirty Unicorn g+ community that a N3 rom is in the works. :) Love it on my nexus 7! Hopefully it will work with our DE.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
Dev edition not being updated is sammy fault. Device is not even sold by verizon.

They should also post factory images s.t people can really work on these devices.

Oh well...

Big red ...

Darth Vader.

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Is it kk based?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TSman74:
It's based on Omnirom so it will be I guess.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Then, who do we blame for the constant back order status?

I'm pretty sure that samsung would love to sell devices that people seems to be very interested.

Also, since I noted several of you selling the devices, can I assume that is not longer worth it getting one if it ever comes back to the store?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
Honestly the only reason IMO if you want a Dev edition is to develop of course and to run asop Roms, flash kernels ect. If you're really not into asop or developing, then there really is no reason to get one.

I bought a Dev ed only to run beans ROM. I bought it with intentions to run asop. But tw just rubbed off on me as well as beans ROM. I flashed asop Roms only to flash back to beans and have no desire to run asop Roms. So that's why I sold mines.

Hope this helps. Just IMHO.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
My main reason to get a DE would be to be able to flash whatever ROM I can. Got burned twice by locked bootloaders and vericroocks almost pulled the same thing with the Gnex.

Now, I'm a complete noob, but my understanding is that beans cannot be installed on a retail unit, but from your post, looks like is possible. is this the case?

I just don't want a locked device that would force me to upgrade just because the carrier decides for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TechSavvy2:
You can install Beans rom on a retail device. You have to root, then install Safestrap, then load Beans rom.

Dev Edition units are solely beneficial to anyone who wants to run a rom with AOSP kernel, or install roms "clean". But safestrap works with basically anything you find in "Android development Section" (unless otherwise specifically noted).
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Ok, interesting.

Still would like to be able to flash whatever I like, but is nice to be able to do this with retail units.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
If you're paying full price for unlimited data then get the DE, you'll have more options down the road. I'm loving the TW roms too but in a year or so, aosp will breathe new life into the device.

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] radionerd:
Don't send knox tripped phones to Samsung repair

My DE's EFS got corrupted while using EFS Professional. I clicked on "NV Backup" in EFS Pro, my phone immediately rebooted into boot-loops. After about two weeks of trying to fix i decided to send it in to Samsung to get DE firmware re-flashed.

I talked to a Samsung CSR and told him that it was a developer device, (nobody knows about these) told him: It had been rooted, knox was tripped, IMEI missing, firmware corrupt, out of warranty repair, I want to pay for the re-flash. All I want is original DE firmware flashed, I expect to pay for re-flash. He wrote down my requests in the ticket, and noted "out of warranty repair" on ticket.

So after 8 days in Texas I find out that the repair facilities policy is "any phone received that has been rooted is automatically deemed "BER" (beyond economical repair)". That's great to know!

I did flash back to stock before shipping. So just knox was tripped, and recovery error "E:failed to mount /efs (Invalid argument)".

Does anyone know of a Samsung technical services, or contact that can flash the firmware back to original DE, and write IMEI?

2. Product Information

Model Number : SM-N900VMKEVZW

Serial Number : 99000436583147*

Product Symptoms : Operation System Issue/Platform / Software/Operating System Issue

Warranty : Out of Warranty

SAMSUNG REPAIR CENTER,RSI

2901 SUMMIT AVE SUITE 100

Plano TX

*03/12/2014//20:28:52//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*

3/12/2014 7:28 PM-Sylvia Hernandez: The unit is shipped.

*03/12/2014//20:11:50//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*

3/12/2014 7:10 PM-PBA Inspection: The unit has left the technician. SOLUTION: BER

*03/12/2014//20:10:49//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*

DEVICE ROOTED

*03/11/2014//12:06:34//0001773863//Telephone//ASC*

3/11/2014 11:06 AM-Selene Herrera: The unit has been received. Pack Condition: Fair Packaging (Box & Cushion)

03/06/14 Received Signed for by JESUS

03/04/14 Shipped
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
Can you do a battery pull, boot into download mode, and use Odin to install the factory DE tar?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Nah your screwed. Same thing happened to me a while back. Sent it over to [MENTION=5297338]oneandroidnut[/MENTION] for him to tinker with. Just bought a regular note 3 because sammy hasnt gotten the dev editions in stock.

The only way to fix it is to get the stock images, which samsung probably wont put up because then people could potentially unlock the retail version note 3

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There is no stock img for the dev and the tars will not work so he's done for.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] radionerd:
Thanks for sharing your similar experience. When mine comes back I will continue to look at the block mounts folders with comparison of a good DE. Maybe someone knows the location where the IMEI could be edited back in, if it even resides in the mounts
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Yeah mine just boots up and goes into reboot mode. It sucks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam1pbell:
Delete Post... Thanks

Sent From My SM-N900V Developer Addition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
I understand that there is no "factory" image for a SM-N900V DE. I meant the MJE stock tar from az-bikers ROOT thread using Odin. Why won't that work? Just curious.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Idk didn't work on mine
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
That is because you fubard yours tinkering around with NV backup...the restore file beans made will work fine for most bootloop situations. Play with fire long enough and eventually you will get burned.

Did you ever try sending to mobile tech and see if Jtag would bring it back?

And Samsung is a bunch of D-Bags!! Sorry to hear about your troubles.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Yeah i know. But this guy all also messed up his doing the same thing so I'm just telling him there isn't much hope. Which sucks.

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Nah i didn't send it to them. I may try doing that later on though once i get it back.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
That sucks more now, Samsung's refusal to support is near absolute!

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I know all they literally have to do is re-flash it. So easy. Yet they wont which is frustrating.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
Got the same response today after I got a hold of executive relation suppport. Recorded the whole conversation..she pretty much said we have no way of re-flashing the phone ! She said she has a situation like this and no one has figured out what to do. She also said no one will Call me back because no one knows what to do. That's the end of my journey.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Honestly, If you get over the whole DE thing and just want your note 3 back, you could try flashing the retail stock images. I thought about that today, and since I just got a new note 3 (retail version) I was thinking of trying it down the line, knowing it would lock the bootloader, just so I could have one to sell and move on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
That was my original problem

I used Kies on my DE, and it locked it up. Thats why i wanted a re-flash. The phone is just behaving like retail edition.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
You have locked your bootloader. AFAIK that is permanent. KIES does that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
She is not talking to the division who prepares the DE. What happened with the "flashed a T-Mobile rom" story. It sounded like you found a way through. Did you ever go back to kies to see if it recognized you as T-Mobile? Thanks for this pioneer work, your pain is helping the rest of us.

SM-N900V DE
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] abe_cedar:
+1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] varunkrt:
Question

How to identify developer edition and retail edition phone?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam1pbell:
Under the battery it should say. Developer Device. Plus the box also says Developer Device.

Sent From My SM-N900V Developer Addition
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] DavidFlory:
However, if KIES has been run on the phone then the bootloader may have been relocked and that makes it almost retail.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
yes nothing you can do unless we ever get stock dev files
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] radionerd:
Update to Reboot nvbackup solved

Update,

My DE is backup and running after 6 weeks hacking.

I found that my FSG and backup partitions were corrupted by a command that Samsung should have removed from all Note 3's. Our Note-3's will brick if the command "reboot nvbackup" is sent. I updated my thread with the fix, which is simple:

confirm FSG is corrupt with hex editor

backup existing partitions using latest EFS professional just in case

copy paste a clean FSG and backup.to /dev/block

detailed fix is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50531498#post50531498
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bjmjpl:
Wow that is awesome...great work!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Bobguy21:
Can I?

Can i just take a dev edition OS file and flash with odin into my non-developer phone? would that work all the same? isnt it just the OS thats different?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
That will not work. Your bootloader is locked. No one (yet) has been able to unlock the retail version bootloadeer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NeoMorpheus1337:
Back on sale

Grab them meanwhile you can.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N900VMKEVZW
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
Too bad they're not upgrading it to 4.4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] droidstyle:
Why does that matter? You can upgrade it yourself to 4.4. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
Cuz we're still stuck with MJE as the baseband. Right?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] stargzrr11:
Nope. You can put whatever baseband you want on it. You just can't Odin a firmware image from a retail note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
Then I could use some instruction if you don't mind. Currently running Beans deodox NC4 and the hashcode kernel. Was I supposed to flash the NC2 kernel in beans thread too? I thought I was supposed to get the kernel from the thread from hashcode or use a lean kernel. (Tried both). Where do I find the zip and instructions to flash the baseband?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
Don't be confused, the only thing we are stuck with is the bootloader and kernals that work with it. Basically kernals compatible with Jellybean 4.3. The baseband aka modem can be flashed with Odin, however, many are finding mje is the best. So we can run the 4.4 Kitkat rom and choose among several kernals and/or modems!

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] F350-6:
Thanks Lillie. I just have trouble wrapping my head around this stuff. I need the kindergarten type instructions to do some of this stuff. I'll stick with MJE until I hear of something changing then. That's better anyway. Now I don't have to go look for the Odin instructions.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I might buy one of these I just want a stable cm11 with the old radio back so I got a stable data connection :( not sure if I could dd the current cm11 I need text and everything working stable for my job and texting my gf. And stable calls and data. Then I'll keep my retail note 3 for backup or vice versa.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I would go back to the mje modem, modem only and wait for cm to develop more.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
Okay ill try that thanks Lillie :) hopefully in a few months I can switch to Dev edition with stable CM11. One question though... When android 5.0 or L as I've heard it referred to comes out. Will it make its way to the vzw note 3 Dev edition along with art?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
No, not via Samsung. Samsung provides zero support for the DE.

However, yes via Cyanogenmod. ART has been an option in CM11 since it hit our device 6 months ago. And a few of the features of Android L are starting to show up in CM11.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmorton10:
I totally agree.

I have a mint condition Note 2 sitting here next to my newly rooted Note 3.

The Note 2 has beans latest ROM on it & is highly tweaked.

There is NO WAY that N2 is faster than the N3, they both fly & side by side the speed is almost identical.

I like flashing custom ROMs as much as anybody as I hate all the VZ bloat etc. (& nandroid backups are always nice) but lets be honest here. These newer phones are just as fast with stock ROMs as they are with any custom setup.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
To me the N3 seemed even a bit quicker than my Bean'd N2.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah i know i havent had the note 2 for months but i can tell note 3 flies over the n2 and are you getting developer one morton?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] xdadevnube:
Does anybody know if you can add Square Trade insurance to the Dev version of the Note3?

I figure that they should honor with proof of purchase within a time frame from reputable seller, right?

Any info on this?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
They should but they will only cover if you drop it or what not. If you break something flashing you can not claim it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
Yea note 3 does move. for sure it does. Things seems to be more smoother when loading stuff in apps like the browser. Note 3 seems to stutter to me at least. And I certainly love all the mods and customizations.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
note 3 seems to stutter or note 2 you mean?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] js0uth:
Sorry didn't explain myself well. I meant the note 3 stutters. Note 2 seems smooth sailin with beans to me. Just me though.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
hmm thats strange. note 3 was nothing but butter for me
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bajasur:
deleted....:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] krazy_smokezalot:
+1

Sent from my SM-N900V using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I've heard nothing as far as timeline and does the 14 day return policy apply to edge?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LillieBennett:
I bet you may still revert to whatever you had before you acquired the n3, within the 14 days that is :)

Lillie via Note3/LG Spectrum
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] airmaxx23:
Will the developers edition be available through Verizon?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] boynamedstacy:
Yes, you still have 14 days to return the device if you bought the phone on the edge program. I am strongly thinking about it myself...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
Last I heard is we won't see the Dev edition until December the earliest. Just giving you guys the heads up.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
no samsung website only

check again man cause i find that hard to believe we would wait that long also their page wouldnt already be up if we still have over a month
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
It wouldn't be the first time. Hope I'm wrong...guess we will find out in a few weeks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
yeah i hope you are wrong!! haha and i hope the samsung rep i first talked to knew what she was talking about when she told me the first week of November!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] cam30era:
The Verizon Note 2 was released in mid November, 2012, I believe. The DE hit the market in February, 2013 if my memory serves me.....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
why wouldnt anybody ever buy a note 2 de when it was unlocked? the note 3 better drop in novemeber lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] jmichaels1982:
Waw I am at best buy and these guys are being complete douches . they went through the settings twice to make sure it has the official firmware and that knox was not tripped. They made me wait for a factory reset TWICE . Then try to get on the internet using WiFi.and overall testing the functionality of the phone . OK never best buy again. But I am done ! Phew :) Phone returned
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tgyberg:
Yikes!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
man that sucks glad to here you got returned! verizon store never even opened my box to make sure a phone was even in it!!

and now your long wait begins like the rest of us for developer edition!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] christianpeso:
Only because your a consumer. Makes perfect sense if you are Best Buy. You test out the phone and make sure everything is good before taking it back. Thats what a smart business is supposed to do.