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[General Topics] adrman:
Who it's your voip provider? It sounds like an issue on their end.

On a semi related note, I had time this afternoon to install csipsimple and test it with both voip.ms and flowroute. I'm getting much better call quality than I did with the same combinations on my Galaxy Nexus. I'm hoping this just isn't a one day anomaly and will continue to test.
[General Topics] nrvate:
Strange, I can't say I've experienced that sort of issue with voip.ms or any SIP provider. Might be worth trying the SIP call on a PC and/or over WiFi to see if the problem can be isolated to the network and/or device in use. If it is consistent, it's likely a provider issuer.

So we had a fairly large music festival this weekend which flooded downtown with folks Saturday night, I was sad to find that T-mobile's network was totally incapable of dealing with the traffic. I understand it's difficult to provide cellular service in these environments, but I brought both an AT&T HSPA+ phone and LTE tablet with me for comparison and neither were without service. N5 on T-mobile was useless, ended up tethering the N5 to the AT&T LTE tablet. AT&T HSPA and LTE were slow, but usable. I can handle slow in these environments, but not totally offline.
[General Topics] nooktablet:
i ordered it for $10 plus tax and it's arriving on thursday

there was no problem ordering it the first time
[General Topics] Alttwo:
They seem to be free again. Can anyone confirm
[General Topics] br0adband:
Links are in the post I made here so it's not like you can't check for yourself.

And no, they're listed as $10 at the present time (as of this post).
[General Topics] Alttwo:
$10 w/ promo code NOVSIM = Free. Shipping is free. So use code NOVSIM to get a free sim
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
I'm getting this

SORRY, WE DON’T RECOGNIZE THE PROMOTION CODE YOU ENTERED. PLEASE REENTER YOUR PROMOTION CODE AND CLICK THE APPLY BUTTON AGAIN.

Edit: Worked on the second time. Looks like too many people are ordering at once.
[General Topics] nooktablet:
Wish I knew this before

"Lost" $10
[General Topics] mb3030:
gotta just chime in here and say i went to this plan last year with the nexus 4 (coming from vzw) and i found the service (nyc/long island) to be basically on par with vzw and now with LTE it blows away what i was getting with vzw. Supposedly vzw has been activating more towers to handle load in nyc/long island so i cant attest for it still being worse, but comparing to the note 2 from oct of 2012 the lte on the n5 and tmobile is killing it.
[General Topics] nooktablet:
Can any one live in the bay area comment on the reception please?
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Entire bay area is well covered. TMO frequency is well known to be building- weak...that annoying guy will be chatting away in the elevator on ATT while you have no connection at all. FiDi can be spotty as well as a few spots along waterfront and wharf and marina, but often another block away yields 4 bars.
[General Topics] Somcom3X:
worked fine for me
[General Topics] Letitride:
Using the latest promo code "NOVSIM" to order 2 free prepaid micro-sim for the N5 - regular price of $10 reduced to zero or free ... GREAT

But, during final checkout - getting an error message, that the payment processor can't be reached or down, call them or try again later - which I will do.

We have 2 lines being port over to T-Mo soon (2 weeks until we're free & clear of contracts) and not sure if I would put both lines on the $30 plan as spouse would be fine with 100 minutes but I need more than that & might be better off going with the postpaid Family 2 lines plan, either $80 but looking like the $90 plan - not unlimited or 5GB, but 2.5 GB for L1 and 500MB for L2 should suffice, and we can roam international as we do travel - without going with a local sim abroad everytime. Rather not go with MNVO like Straight Talk or Simple Mobile / Walmart Family Mobile as their shared offerings aren't saving much or really better - or, am I missing something else hidden in plain sight.

At this moment, I'm on a field project in eastern CT and T-Mo only has HSPA signal no LTE here, but it's solid @ -90 dBm indoor at a conference facility.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
I'd chose this plan for the wife ($0.10 overage minutes) and go with $70/mo Unlimited Everything on yours=approx. $100/mo tailored to your needs. Cheers.
[General Topics] crzycrkr:
Where on long island are you? What kinds of speeds and coverage are you getting?
[General Topics] mb3030:
Im around the Smithtown area and I travel to work around garden city. I also work in flushing and travel to lynbrook and seaford a lot. I have LTE everywhere and voice service has been fine. Speeds I'm seeing lowest 7 down 5 up with good ping. Fastest I've seen is 50/17 and averaging in the 20s
[General Topics] TiltedAz:
I was hoping to use an automatic withdrawal to refill account but Tmobile charges sales tax. I guess the best I can do is buy the no tax $100 refill cards?
[General Topics] cstcyr:
Got this plan setup tonight with no problems. Remember kids you need to order the SIM activation kit from T-Mobile. I got excited and got a SIM from my local store thinking I could activate it and was sorely mistaken. Also you can buy T-Mobile refills with bitcoin Weee. Funding my phone for almost a year with 1 BTC.
[General Topics] unknown1205:
while driving on king st. along the embaradero i get HSPA+ but still get decent speeds. theres a minor data dead spot crossing thru park presidio from lincoln way and 19th. but comes back on a minute later. same while crossing san mateo bridge, a minor dead spot but comes back on a minute later. every else is good but i've only been on this plan for a week.
[General Topics] slowpok22:
Just tried to activate wal-mart sim and it claims it to have a bad sim number :(

just got the free sim off of t mobiles site, we'll see how that goes
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Received my N5, unlocked bootloader, flashed recovery, rooted (easy as hell).

Activated on $30 T-Mobile prepaid. Data seems be fluctuating between 3G and HSPA (little "H" next to the bars). Sometimes shows the H, sometimes shows 3G. Speeds seem fairly consistent at ~6Mbit down, which I'm happy with.

Coming from a Virgin Mobile Motorola Triumph (Android 2.3 Gingerbread) it's like cavemen finding the Monolith in 2001.
[General Topics] Zainiak:
Your phone stays on 3g, when you use data it will jump to h/h+
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Thanks for that; you can tell I'm a newb.
[General Topics] adrman:
Keep checking refillmobi.com. They still discount T-Mobile refills. Unfortunately, they're out of stock at the moment. To pay full pop, but no tax, callingmart.com is great. I'm due for a refill in the next few weeks and if the former is still out of stock, I'll just buy a $30 refill from the latter.
[General Topics] TiltedAz:
I check refillmobi regularly but they're always "sold out." Gotta wonder if they have small quantity and sell out quickly.
[General Topics] adrman:
The problem is T-Mobile has cut down on their discounting. Callingmart used to discount as well. Several months ago, they sent out an email stating they could no longer offer discounts. And yes, you're correct, refillmobi does sell out quickly. Usually though, someone, myself included, will post on one of the threads here when stock is available.
[General Topics] dazz87:
Anyone in the LA area (Monterey Park) using tmobile on their nexus 5? Just wondering how the coverage is around the area? I am currently on AT&t GoPhone and coverage is horrible where I live. I check online on tmobile site and it shows "excellent" coverage for my area. It said the same thing when I checked AT&t and its horrible.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
You can also consult the app Sensorly. Cheers!
[General Topics] BirchBarlow:
T-Mobile is definitely more economical than AT&T. Not only does AT&T overcharge you for data, but you also have to pay way extra for text messaging or you get charged 20 cent for every outgoing AND incoming text message. The only advantage I can see to AT&T is the 4G network is more robust, but I'm sure T-Mobile will eventually catch up.
[General Topics] dazz87:
Thanks, Told a look and my home and work place does not have 4G coverage. I will probably still get it cause of the price. No point of paying $60.00 to AT&t for crappy coverage in my area. With tmobile how much is it per minutes if you go over your 100 minutes for the month?
[General Topics] Exel:
I live in San Pedro, CA and get awesome LTE speeds.

I get pretty good ones in Long Beach, CA as well.

And pretty much anywhere else I go, ahah.

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$0.10 cents per minute.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Don't forget to try VoIP solutions.. I prefer Skype and all my close peeps are on Voxer.
[General Topics] BinkXDA:
From the perspective of VoIP, I do this daily and this is bogus. There is too much jitter/latency with this level of service for VoIP to be useable.
[General Topics] br0adband:
But but but... it works for me just fine. Sorry that 2G/EDGE service in your area is that bad but here in Las Vegas it's not, at least not in my experience and that's with the last 9 phones I've owned in the past 18-24 months all using the same T-Mobile account/plan.

I know in some areas it's bad, seriously terrible horrible stuff with sub-dialup speeds and yes some fairly bad latency, but not here, not for me, hence me stating my experience.

And I tend to listen to Tune In Radio and Scanner Radio Pro streams a lot (like 10-14 hours a day) and they work just fine when my device(s) are/were in 2G/EDGE mode.

YMMV but it works just fine for me.
[General Topics] lordroy:
With the upcoming changes to VOIP apps (such as GrooveIP), what to do about saving minutes with this plan? I am hoping that Google will have it's version of VOIP ready before they bring the hammer down on the others out now, but any ideas other than that?
[General Topics] kayone73:
I'm not having success trying to activate the $30/month plan, I purchased the free T-Mo sim activation kit online off the official website, got my kit in the mail yesterday, started the activation process online to get the $30 plan, and then the website was hanging up, so I tried calling the customer help line, and the representative told me he could sign me up for the Walmart $30 plan. I got a confirmation text with my number saying the account was activated but now I have no data and I check my account online and i'm not signed up for the $30 plan but the pay as go you minute plan with no data. So I spent half an hour with a representative this morning who was no help and told me I now have to a purchase a sim activation kit from a walmart store and then call back to T-Mobile customer help line and use a new activation code to get that rate plan.

I know many of you did not ever physically go to a Walmart store to have to do this, so I am wondering what I can do to avoid this or do I have no choice at this point if I want the plan?
[General Topics] STi_Fanatic:
The plan discussed in this thread is not the Walmart plan. It's a plan that shows up for new customers when you activate a SIM for the first time, offering 100 minutes, unlimited text and 5GB of data for $30 monthly. I was able to see it as an option when I activated my SIM online. Customer Care may not be able to do it.

I'd suggest you get a new SIM and try again since once the SIM is activated it seems like your odds of being able to get the plan are low. SIMs are once again free at TMO, so strike while the iron is hot.
[General Topics] adrman:
Check out csipsimple with voip.ms, callcentric, flowroute, or even ipkall. You can pay a couple of bucks a month for a did to forward google voice to and then a penny or less a minute. I think callcentric and ipkall have free dids available as well. I use voip.ms, flowroute and Skype, although I think I'll be abandoning my Skype in did, since the voice quality of flowroute and voip.ms has improved drastically on the N5 compared to the same setup I had on my galaxy nexus.
[General Topics] kayone73:
Great thanks, time to order again *sigh*

edit: I just checked on the t-mobile website, they don't appear to be free , still listed as $10 on the website

edit2: nevermind found the online coupon code, replacement SIM purchased
[General Topics] Zenoran:
I know throttling used to go down to edge on tmo but that was before they had 4g. Is it for sure 2g we get after the 5gb? The only reason I ask is because some posts seem to indicate we go to 3g after the 5gb. I'm just going to have to wait and see for sure but was wondering if someone could clarify based on experience.
[General Topics] br0adband:
It's 2G/EDGE speeds, not necessarily 2G/EDGE connectivity. I've never really gone over the 5GB cap myself, maybe once or twice, but I tend to put my device(s) in 2G/EDGE mode and just leave them there the majority of the time - if I do have a need where I have to get data fast (pretty rare) I just switch to non-GSM mode and it'll kick in as required (showing 3G or H/H+).

I really wish some carrier would do a throttled connection for like $40/month, maybe 1Mbps capped, that would be so awesome and it would help with network congestion issues by just allowing everyone to get data relatively fast (1Mbps is fast enough for anything, seriously, I mean how fast does a web page really need to load...).

I would prefer to have a megabit per second rock solid (or as solid as possible) than have the potential for much higher speeds with a lot of lag/dropouts/latency issues, etc. I've had LTE capable devices in the past year and I don't find them to be of any particular use to me, and again it's not about the speed for me it's about having a solid reliable connection. Having said that, even T-Mobile's network here in Las Vegas isn't perfect, far from it, but then again no network ever is or will be for that matter.

Sooner or later 2G/EDGE will just fade away like the analog technology did and we'll just have to deal with it as and when it happens.
[General Topics] Lithoss:
But you can buy the T-mobile 30$ plan from walmart, can you not?:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-SIM-Kit/24099996
[General Topics] silentkry:
yes. that's where i got mine.
[General Topics] STi_Fanatic:
You *can*, but you do not have to do so.
[General Topics] untalented893:
Is anyone able to get short codes on this plan? I'm getting mixed answers everywhere I look online, but I am unable to send short code texts besides the ones for T-Mobile.
[General Topics] slowpok22:
That is the one I bought, would not active, said the sim number was in valid, talked with t mobile support they said it was in valid and I would need to contact wal-mart, all they would do is refund my money, they had no clue.
[General Topics] stephenta:
Can anyone send me the link for the 30 dollar pre paid. I ordered one off walmart and it keeps cancelling. Had my wife and friend order it to and it keeps cancelling for me...
[General Topics] slowpok22:
this is the link I used: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card

I assume that once I receive the sim, I can go to the activation page and that is where I will be able to chose the $30 plan.

someone will scold me if I'm wrong, you know what happens when you assume :)
[General Topics] umaxtu:
I've got a quick question. I'm currently on my parent's Sprint plan and I'm looking to switch to the $30 tmobile plan. Can I port just my number from Sprint from t mobile? And if I do is that going to force my parents to renew their contract? Their data is so grandfathered in that it doesn't cost them anything. (I'm not kidding, 5 lines, 2 with unlimited 3g data, unlimited texts and 1500 shared minutes for about $150 a month) If its not possible to just port my number or it would mess up my parents contract, I could live with a new phone number, but It would be nice to keep my current number.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
We can't answer this..Sprint knows if your parents are under contract on your specific number (hardware upgraded recently?) so call Sprint to determine your own number's disposition. Porting will kill your line only..but could impact the account via ETF. Best to just get a new number IMHO.
[General Topics] umaxtu:
Ok, thanks. The last time I upgraded my phone was 5 years ago, so I'm not most certainly not under contract. Looking forward to retiring my Samsung Rant
[General Topics] STi_Fanatic:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate

You have to activate the new SIM and then choose the $30 plan when it asks you what you want to set it up as.
[General Topics] Ajfink:
As long as you won't suffer under an ETF, transferring should be seamless. Just double check first.

Getting a new number is a pain.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[General Topics] davelikestacos:
Friday is payday, and I'll be ditching Sprint and going with the $30 T-Mobile plan on my new N5 :)

Already got quoted for my ETF, 280 bucks, and the money I save by going from $120 to $30 a month will cover that in just about 3 months :)
[General Topics] Dani897:
i've never used t-mobile because it just didn't make sense with the coverage but i always heard great things about their extra services. how does the wifi calling work? do you have to be on a saved access point and logged in? i know that sounds like the obvious answer..... but i have to ask...
[General Topics] steviejake:
Not true. I used GrooveIP on WiFi from Japan yesterday with great results!

StevieJake
[General Topics] br0adband:
Only thing that matters with the Wi-Fi calling thing is this, and I mentioned in this thread already in another post:

If you use the T-Mobile Wi-Fi Calling app (which you have to do anyway since you can't use any other VoIP/SIP app to make it work

with your T-Mobile number

) it will deduct minutes from your 100 minute allotment to make said calls.

Like it or not, and as completely lame as it is, that's how it works even if you're totally disconnected from T-Mobile in terms of the cellular use (airplane mode) and just using Wi-Fi to do it - it doesn't matter, you still lose minutes from your 100 minute allotment.

If you absolutely must use that aspect of T-Mobile, then do it only in a situation where you simply have no other option and cellular just doesn't work period.

Using Google Voice (which gives you a phone number) + GrooveIP or Talkatone or some other VoIP app (at least through the end of April 2014 when Google is pulling the ability to use third party apps as already announced) is your only logical alternative to preserve the 100 minutes you get with this $30 plan.
[General Topics] g33k3r:
I was using grooveip but then I setup an account through the sipdroid app for pbxes.com and just added the sip account in the dialer settings and now basically have calling from my GV number through the native dialer and quality seems to be better also.
[General Topics] unknown1205:
can we apply corporate discounts to this? i tried to sign up for my 12% off corporate discount but i could not find an account number. is there no account numbers for this plan?

btw, theres no tax for me and i just pay directly on tmobiles website.
[General Topics] magecca:
Free SIM activation kits

Free SIM activation kits and free shipping are available again on T-Mobile's site using PROMO code "NOVSIM" - Probably throughout November...
[General Topics] skinien:
I was in the same boat. The problem with porting to google voice now is that your MMS might get all screwed up. T-Mobile just now started doing something where they forward your google voice MMS to your email. I'm not sure if that works on their pre-paid plans.

I just went ahead and ported my verizon number to t-mobile. I use groveip for all of my outgoing calls and then just eat my minutes on incoming calls. I'm looking forward to google voice mms and hangouts integration. As soon as that comes, I'm porting my number to google voice.

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Well, I switched from Verizon Moto X to T-Mobile and the Nexus 5. I'm loving this $30 plan. I get LTE pretty much everywhere I've been in San Diego. Unfortunately, my house gets HSPA+ even though I'm in an "excellent LTE area". Not a big deal though because I have WiFi and their HSPA+ speeds are awesome.

My wife liked my Nexus 5 so much that she ditched her iPhone 5 and switched to a Nexus 5. She went from Verizon to Straight Talk (she needs more than 100 minutes).

Our phone bill just went from $150 to $75!! :good:
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
What are you guys getting for LTE speeds? On HSPA out here in the middle of nowhere Texas I do 6 - 12Mbit depending on the time of day, which I'm pretty happy with. I am sure LTE would be more, though.

I'm headed to Dallas over Thanksgiving so I assume I'll get LTE speeds while I'm there.
[General Topics] raichur0xx0rz:
Depending on the signal strength, I get anywhere from 15-30Mbps or so. Uploads have been weird, and I get anywhere from 2-10Mbps. LTE is pretty inconsistent in my area though.
[General Topics] aohus:
has anyone been able to get a deal on T-Mobile for their unlimited plan?

I have someone that can hook me up for $60/month + $100 credit.

Is there anything better out there for the unlimited plan for T-Mobile ?
[General Topics] nooktablet:
Expires on 11/14
[General Topics] :
I'm a grandfathered ATT unlimited subsciber throttled back to the stone age for the next 20 some days. My question, on this specific $30 T-Mobile plan: What do you guys get throttled back to after your 5GB LTE limit? Is it anywhere near as bad?

(Ignore the second to last result. I cheated.)
[General Topics] parkson:
Throttled to Edge speed. Worse than dialup! :banghead:
[General Topics] br0adband:
Anywhere near as bad? You're getting 500+ Kbps (570 down/530 up on the last one) and you think that's bad? :)

2G/EDGE traditionally has a max (theoretical) of about 250 Kbps and that's in the absolute best conditions, like you're standing under or direct line-of-sight within the immediate vicinity of a cell site/tower. Most people will see speeds of 50-150 Kbps (yes that's Kilobits per second) in usage, and even that can get hit pretty hard depending on conditions in your area: buildings, weather, signal obstructions, and so on. My average here in Las Vegas is roughly 150 Kbps I'd say, I can do VoIP calls using Google Voice + Talkatone and I can stream audio without issues with a variety of apps.

So yeah, you're getting a half megabit per second there which by comparison is way way faster than 2G/EDGE, and I do mean way way faster. :p
[General Topics] Erukian:
I suggest also looking at StraightTalk if you want AT&T LTE (for better coverage)

$45/mo for unlimited talk/text and 2.5gb of data then it's throttled if you reach the cap.
[General Topics] Cuppeerr:
I'm switching to this tomorrow:)
[General Topics] parkson:
Throttled speeds?
[General Topics] br0adband:
All modern carriers will throttle to 2G/EDGE speeds since that's the most basic level of service you'll find. Yes, it's entirely possible that some carrier's network even has issues with that so it's conceivable they could drop you back to GPRS data mode (with a theoretical max of about 14.4 Kbps but typically half that, if you're lucky) but 2G/EDGE is pretty consistent across carriers worldwide.
[General Topics] TiltedAz:
There were complaints and possibly some lawsuits over ST throttling before 2.5GB. Some say ST has the worst customer service originating from the owner Carlos Slim.
[General Topics] Damian2013:
Can you link me to the site to buy the sim? They keep wanting me to add a plan attached to it.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card
[General Topics] Damian2013:
After I pick my nano sim it asks me to select a plan still. Am I doing something wrong?
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Nano? What phone?
[General Topics] Cuppeerr:
Click here, and if it asked you to pay just enter the promo code mentioned above:)
[General Topics] v4npro:
Nevermind
[General Topics] Damian2013:
I do and it asks me to pick a simple choice plan.
[General Topics] Cuppeerr:
Oh.
[General Topics] howardroark:
Anyone try a paid PBXes account to get G722? I'm wondering if it is worth it.