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[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rommark:
Anyone tried this LAGFIX on LG G2?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47058123#post47058123

This enables TRIM which supposed to come with Android 4.3 I can see many people in APP'S feedback confirmed that LAG fixed on their android devices ...

Thoughts?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanghan:
Nope, doesn't work for me.

My phone has been lagging alot too, and I only have around 80+ apps. The lags are EVERYWHERE, from scrolling the homepage to playing a simple game named "fun run".

At first, I thought it was wootever's custom kernel. However, after reverting back to stock, the lag still persist. I installed FPS meter and in the game, every 5 seconds the framerate drop from 40 to 19, which result in a 0.5 seconds "hang" in the game. Right before installing the kernel, there has been absolutely no lag in the game at all.

I am using a stocked rooted international version of the LG G2. Coming from a HTC Butterfly S, I am very certain that I am able to differentiate between lags and normal system functions.

Any solutions to this problem would be happily received.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puch0021:
Have you tried setting the governor to interactive as well as change the thermal throttling? Or do you still have lag despite these changes?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
My Galaxy S2 with over 400 apps is faster than every other Android phone I've used. It's faster and smoother than the S3, S4, G Pro, G2 etc.

The only conclusion is that the owners of these phones have crapware installed while my 400+ apps have each been quality tested by me personally after installation. Random people's Android phones are no different from random Windows XP laptops with unimaginable crapware installed that makes it take 15 minutes to boot and lag all the time.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
Old thread I know, but my phone does this also. Seems to happen most of the time in the settings menu. The screen jumps and no touches will register. Hitting the power button to sleep the screen fixes it but it's annoying.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanghan:
I tried both performance and interactive to no avail. Didn't touch the thermal temperature settings as phone lags even after I woke up in the morning at its lowest temperature in the launcher.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
It's your apps. You need to remove poorly coded bloatware.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanghan:
Well, you did say that your s2 is faster than all the other phones you've used, sooo.. the conclusion should be buy s2, not the s3,s4 or g2?

Anyway all the apps all backuped and redownloaded by Google itself are exactly the same as mine HTC Butterfly S, which has a Snapdragon 600 instead of 800 and far better battery life and no lag in its stock launcher. LG screwed something up as usual with all their phones.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
The conclusion is apart from the common scroll stuttering in most apps, all other lag and battery issues are user stupidity.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anonymousss:
Apparently not all of their phones, some people didnt face the lag problem using the device whatsoever
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanghan:
Okay, lets assume you are correct.

I downloaded Nova Launcher to use their app drawer and squeezed all my downloaded apps together into 4 pages. By default, my home launcher is still the stock launcher. Could you please look for me and identify by experience what possible apps do you think could be badly coded?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeorgeNav:
There is allot more going on other then apps just being installed. Some run in the background without you even knowing it, big part of a phone slowing down
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingdady:
I think I read somewhere that G2 xposed doesn't play nice with xblast module. Try uninstalling the xblast module.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
Anyone know how to set interactive governor on boot?

Thanks!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fanghan:
Nope it doesnt work either :/. But you're correct that it screws each other up, xblast prevents the volume and slider bars from being removed even if you checked to removed both of them in G2 Xposed. But it doesnt affect the phone in terms of lag at all.

Hey pal, guess you're right after all.

Anyway, for those with lags in their device, here's what i did.

I did a full format of my device and jumped to Houstonn's Slimbean rom, and restored everything through titanium backup. Tested for lag with the game "Fun Run" again - NO LAG AT THIS POINT OF TIME.

Started opening each app 1 by 1 to reactivate them, NO LAG AT THIS POINT OF TIME.

Played with Xposed (G2) (Xblast has already been uninstalled), played with Font Installer (installed a new font), played with NotificationsOff, DID

NOT ACTIVATE TRICKSTER MOD (Still dormant, app considered installed but never activated at all), - NO LAG AT THIS POINT OF TIME

Restarted device - First thing i noticed that contacts i added recently (about..range of a week?) were no longer there. (I noticed this as i had a unread Whatsapp message, and that the contact just display the number and not the person's name). Widgets all became blank boxes of "tap to restore widgets". Font has been changed properly systemwide to my chosen font. System time was wrong before it synced again with my wifi. (AutomateIt Pro has settings to be activated on specific timings; went crazy and activated a few profiles at a go + Whatsapp informed that my system time is wrong). - LAG STARTS HERE.

However, the lag is less laggy as the one in the stock rom.

Seems like a certain app that interfere with system files is the culprit.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingdady:
Trickster mod app in playstore.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hosmsdos:
In 4.2.2 Its normal to lag aftet long usage. You guys should try rom based on 4.3 as it fixes these issues
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Markesium:
UPDATE

UPDATE

Since this thread, I got a replacement phone a week ago now. Minimal lag now, still has lag when swiping through menus like music or phone directory.....but what the hey, i don't mind that. Gaming is now lag free. Pretty good i think overall....................so if your having the same probs as me, i suggest getting a replacement, may make all the difference.

Thank you guys ;)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] avi72m:
launcher redraw lag

Hi

The problem with launcher redraw lag exist also with LG Pad 8.3,

and is quite annoying there but with my LG G2 this problem doesn't exist.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydeah:
I am not sure what you mean but what I am getting here is you are calling all these people stupid, who posted their concerns about a $600 phone lagging despite having the latest hardware and acing all tests and benchmarks. Let's say user stupidity, and they all load crapware on their phones, causing the lag, how is that possible. I just got my phone 3 days ago, I loaded only bare minimum apps, disabled most widgets, and uninstalled stuff that could be running in the background, including stopping carrier loaded apps as well as google's own apps like gmail, hangouts, etc..

Right now I am running the half the amount of apps I had on LG P880, when I pick up the 870 that my wife is using, it feels a whole lot faster. When I scroll through my emails on 870 I do not see a single stutter or lag or skipped frames, that is with 3 times the amount of e-mails on my G2. G2 stutters when I scroll a web page, it stutters and skips frames when I scroll list of e-mails. I was not sure what to call this issue until I found this thread, it feels as if there is an issue with graphics driver or processor that is on this phone. Something is off, it's hard to put your finger on it. It is not consistent, sometimes it will not lag, but sometimes it will. Also you need to consider the bloatware that comes pre-loaded on most phones nowadays, so it is not just user issue, but manufacturer and carrier issue as well.

And to those who claim Apple is designed for touch screen and Android is not, and that it is expected for it to lag, I am sorry I don't buy this. When a 2-3 year old android phone with fraction of the specs runs whole lot smoother than latest device, I think it is poor programming and trying to cram as much UI and general functionality into a device as possible. Google is soooooooo worried that apps will not behave properly, they disable SD support, yet they cannot make the phones run smoother (for some reason we should expect some kind of performance issue?)

It's really too bad, I love this phone, everything is great about it but it is just annoying. I am sure there is a way to fix it, maybe LG should rush release 4.4 so we can see if it fixes, I am preparing to do a factory restore and try again, if that doesn't help over Thanksgiving weekend I will try a replacement device and I hope AT&T does not pull the Restocking Fee nonsense on me when I ask them to accept and swap the phone in store since I got it online.

No, I do not have any touchscreen problems, when I draw a line it goes perfectly straight.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UnskilledOne:
Hi everyone, today while trying to check my data usage on stock rom in the settings I noticed the phone became quite unresponsive.

When I scrolled through the list it stuttered and selected random items on the list even though all I wanted was to scroll on the list. After a reboot it seemed to have gone away but this seems to happen after some up time.. Any idea what causes this?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goonieguy8:
I have major lag issues

I have the Verizon version of this phone coming from the HTC one and this phone lags like my gs3..I'm highly dissapointed...sure I have a live wallpaper running but this thing should have no issues...but it does..everything stock and it lags and has hickups like crazy so the op of this post is not crazy because he described my exact issues. I just hope they are fixed with the 4.4 update because I don't want to go through the hassle of rooting. :(
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Why would you assume they are interested in fixing the lag? People have been saying the same thing since Android 1.6. The lag fix never comes.

The only thing they are interested in is pumping out the next phone with the next chipset.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
I have not read the whole thread. But here it goes...

I am super sensitive to stuttering of any kind. And it's what I dislike about Android the most. I even left Andriod for an iPhone 5 some time ago. Though I have gotten rid of most of the stuttering on my G2 by tuning the ondemand governor heavily towards performance. At the expense of battery but I gladly make that compromise. Now the framerate is much better and I'm a happy camper.

Android will always be somewhat laggy. Too late to fix what should had been done correctly from the beginning. Project Butter helped but it's far from perfect. Also remember all the different hardware Android needs to run on. Apple has a optimized software in comparison. Not really fair to compare.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Windows Phone is smoother than iOS and runs on hundreds of devices. Windows 8 is the smoothest OS and runs on millions of devices.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
A person from the IT department that has Nokia showed me how is the pain of send a message with whatsapp, never seen so big lag in a simple

Whatsapp app... this company has 5000 windows phone and they are changing to Android because of the bad experience with Nokia/Windows... Nokia was ever been crap since Symbian and now that crap changed to Microsoft.

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If you have D802, I can suggest you to give a try Rayglobe 3.2 (install without any mod and as light as possible with the app options in Aroma) + StockMOD Kernel v3.00, plus add this line to build.prop: persist.sys.high_temp_off=true (reboot the phone after this)

That combination is the best I have found till know for LG G2 (I have tested all other ROM and there is something that doesnt work, something that does not happens with Rayglobe 3.2) I played some games and I have not experienced lag problem to worry about...

For email I ever use Maildroid pro and the browser that I found it works best for me is Boat browser.

Last comment, LG have done a nice piece of hardware, but in the software department is better if they invest hard in that because till today its bad and I doubt I will buy an buggie LG phone again, if HTC release a phone with same battery life like G2, I will sell my G2 instantly.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Higgins12:
Simply because 4.2.2 doesn't have TRIM support. However i didn't experienced much lag yet with maybe 60 Apps installed.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix might help if it lags to heavy. I'll use it since a while with automatic trimming once a week

Or to ask if it lags too heavy what read/write speeds do you Guys have?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hosmsdos:
Sold my g2 and got N5. Nothing will even come close to Nexus experience its always the best. Its Like getting an iPhone for android:D
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannejanne:
Yes but it's also very optimized like iOS is and locked-in system. Remember they completely remade Windows OS when WP7 was released.

In comparison Android must be a cluster**** under the hood.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidkid311:
If you're running stock it will lag. It's 4.2.2, 4.3 upwards has trim support. Funny as mine is fine running stock, rooted and using nova launcher instead. Lg stock latchet is a battery hog.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] americasteam:
Yeah, except with cheap hardware.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hosmsdos:
Same specs except for camera which I don't care about. And the matte design feels way more luxurious in hand than G2.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] americasteam:
Cheaper screen, mediocre headphone out, smaller battery, terrible external speaker, and questionable cell reception.

Agree with the matte being better. Device is buttery smooth. Google makes it affordable, so they have to cut corners somewhere. Just wish they would release a premium device so there's no compromise when buying a Nexus device. That said, it's still a great device just because of the software alone.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
You have got not G2, it's Nexus 5's results, right?

OK G2 F320K on Kitkat doesn't lag. At last
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremija8:
I was considerign moving to G2 from my htc one simply because of bigger screen and better battery( don't use camera that much)

After having htc desire, S2 and S3 i became alergic to lag and stutter, and to be honest after seeing this thread i will not sell htc one.

No matter what i do with the phone it has no lag at all, also no stutter whatsoever.

IT's the first android phone i didn't have to root because it just works like i want.

Thank you for opening this thread :good:
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
My g2 has no lag whatsoever. ^

LG G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android404:
How many people reported a lag in this thread? About 20? The other 8 million (?) g2 owners haven't. I'm all for keeping a great phone like the one instead of replacing it because a different one is slightly better. But the g2 actually is better, even if there's 20 people who experience microstutter ;)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
I have D802SEA and I dont have any lag, I'm pure stock D802F. Because people are talking about this I tried to download some games

just to test it, for example in Sonic Transformed I have not seen any Lag.

The only issue you could find coming from HTC ONE is about sound quality and level of the speakers, the headphones are ok.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremija8:
I know, as i said the only thing that makes me wanna come aboard G2 is the screen and battery. And sorry, but even microstutter is enough for me not to buy it. I'm not saying One is better, but for me it's unacceptable that flagships like S4, and G2 have microstutter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpn-hZnEPqg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwmEUXpR9Qw#t=1022

First video is launcher redraw, and that would kill me.

The second one is music player where it loads up music, scrolling is awful, and swypeing from left to right is also damn slow.

Really don't have anything against phone, or you guys. Just exploring my options for a bigger screen phone. So far One is the beast of speed ;)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
G2 and S4 are nowhere near the same. I have no micro stutter or lag at all. Nothing.

Only some have micro, very few.

LG G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
The first video is about the launcher, I have HOLO Launcher and I don't experience that, so probably is a software issue and

think that probably is not a debloated phone.

I have erased some applications and I dont need to touch the build.prop or change the kernel, if you want to try, here is the list:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2594946&page=6

As a music player I use Poweramp and again, there is no microstutter or lag.

Coming from Samsung, there is no comparison in the display, It will be difficult to me to buy again a phone with AMOLED, the screen of G2 is what I'm looking for.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Even now the HTC One X+ destroys the latest phones two generatation ahead of it in NAND benchmarks. This is the primary reason for stutter on Android. One X+ has higher NAND speed than even iPhones.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
Do you want speed? buy a desktop.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steamer86:
No lag here on home or stock music player after loading my music. O_o. Then again, I am set to RoW and Interactive.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hydeah:
That split second lag would kill the poster you quoted above? Really?

I don't get it, does it keep lagging as you scroll on home screens or just after exiting from a baggy and slow tapatalk?

The only complain I have is the lag in scroll, that's all otherwise this phone is just great so far, stock rom with temp mod.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Or an iPhone. Those rarely stutter either. They don't lag while performing basic operations like installing apps in the background or transfering music at over 30 MB/s.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
Ok show me http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2595893 NAND results of One X+
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender_007:
LAG = DALVIK VM.

Higher Dalvik score in benchmarks = better smoothness.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
I'll point you to the root lag

[YOUTUBE]azooWRZEyyg[/YOUTUBE]

There it is. See how laggy is S4 ? And how smooth G Pro responds to touch?

And then, there's a MobileXPRT bench which shows me 88 in user experience. Try bench your G2. What is more interesting is Gallery Scroll result 32fps of 1/2 of List Scroll 60. And Gallery Scroll should be 60. Zoom and Pinch should also be 60 as in Nexus 4 results and not 47 as G2

Notice that my results are on Kitkat and it's still lagging so we all should point LG to their fault and somehow sign a petition so they change their UI
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android404:
I followed this thread from day one. so I know it's about the stock G2. Neyertheless, here's a video of what scrolling looks like while screen-recording split view on omni rom. The play store reloads every 20 items when scrolling fast, there is no lag:

https://vimeo.com/83421736

If the link opens as vimeo.com/m/83421736 you have to remove the "/m" to make it a desktop site to make it work.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bender_007:
User Experience Tests: 90

List Scroll: 59.00 fps

Grid Scroll: 59.00 fps

Gallery Scroll: 37.00 fps

Browser Scroll: 58.00 fps

Zoom and Pinch: 47.00 fps

I notice that the gallery scroll works just fine but it doesn't scroll the whole image through, it let's a space inbetween which is just as large as the navigation bar is..
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Visible stutter while swiping between tabs in the Play Store.

All the screens abruptly blank out and appear when you click on something.

The progress bar at the top in the browser was jumping forward instead of smoothly expanding.

MASSIVE freeze and sudden appearance of icons when opening the app switcher.

Same problems as all previous phones. Just faster.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android404:
I can't see any stutter in the store. The screens "blank out" because I turned off the annoying transition animations. The progress bar reflects how much it has loaded, why would that be a smooth movement? And the "massive freeze" is called loading time, not freeze and not lag either. It takes 0.2 seconds to load 100 apps. None of this has to do with lag or stuttering. Remember also that this is a screen recording, not live... The governor is set to conservative by the way.

But this kind of feels like trying to convince a racist of immigration being a good and necessary thing, that's why I'm not going to respond to you again on the matter of lags ;)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
good point, but all these waits, name it something else then lagging is still annoying. By Android design then it isn't fluid what I call "lagg free" Or in your words waiting time. No amount of art, customizations tweaking or hardware upgrades can get rid of that.

fun to see technology is still falling short on our wishes :)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
He appears to troll any lag thread for any device on xda. Really no point tbh.

LG G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] citytrader:
I have an Ipad, personally IOS is pure crap, for the other side, with one charge of my G2 doing the same things with an iPhone you need to charge it at least 4 times.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LocutusEstBorg:
Turn off animations on an $800 device? Unacceptable. Do you turn off animations on your PC? No.

Your device downloads data 1 byte at a time. There are thus easily more than 100 points available to fill the progress bar smoothly.

It should show the screen smoothly and populate the list smoothly as it loads, NOT freeze.

$800 device with a battery twice as large as normal can't even run at normal CPU speed? Unacceptable.

Your post just acknowledged the lag and covered it up with excuses. This is why this thread exists. You can't see the lag but I can, on a 30 fps video no less. It will be even more evident on the device which normally runs at 60 fps. You can't possible believe the G2 is as smooth as the Nexus 5 because the Nexus 5 is clearly a smoother device. If a device exists that is smoother than the G2, then by that premise the G2 lags.

That not the case with devices like the iPhone 5 and 5s. Neither device is bottlenecked compared to the other. They both lag uniformly in the same place (such as rotating with the keyboard open) and are both uniformly smooth in other places. One doesn't randomly lag all over the place like the G2 vs Nexus 5 (or Nexus 4).

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Yes, I debunk people who lie that their phone doesn't lag, with video proof, in threads that other people have created specifically about lag. The OP needs to know that the lag is normal and his phone isn't defective. I've seen several people RMA their phones because of lag because they believed the flood of "my phone doesn't lag" responses! The chance of a hardware failure being so "perfect" that it only causes slight stuttering and lag instead of some catastrophic failure are so miniscule it's ridiculous.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
Mine doesn't lag. ^

Maybe you need to spend more time in life doing more productive things than tying to prove people are "lying".

LG G2