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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] torklemm:
Here are some more specs from a German IT News Ticker

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/65779

CPU OMAP 850

128MB RAM

Quad band (Europe&USA Freq, in one unit)

64bit screen (Magician has 16bit)

(so it's kinda unlikely that the Magician II WM5 ROM will work on the original Magician)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] ImmortalU:
Yeah, just saw that too... dammnit is the word that comes to mind! :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shafez:
If so it has the same processor as the i-mate K-Jam,the rom update of the K-jam is different from all the other rom update files.

It contains one nk.nbf no extended rom file and no radio file too,all in one rom upgrade file 72.0 MB.

The rom update program is different also and does not recognize the Magician,also MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe does not recognize the rom file as it has a different check sum.

So this way no hope to use the Magician II rom unles Buzz can do somthing about it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] risidoro:
FU** O** HTC!!! :( I don't like ti omap at all. I hope new devices will have bulverde (ours) or, but i don't think we'll se it before mid 2006, Monahans.

And what about 128MB of RAM??? It should be completely useless with wm 5.0 unless u wish to edit your 6Mpixel images directly on your compactII with photoshop!!! I'm almost sure it'll have 128MB of storage instead or, at least, 128MB of both RAM and Storage.

WiFi lack, however, we'll be the greatest miss. I'll have to wait for Prophet...

Finally, mate, i don't think it could have 64bit display (if they're referring to color depth):

8bit -> 256 colors (my first i386 PC!!!)

16bit -> 65.536 colors (our magicians)

18bit -> 262.144 colors (samsung devices, new SE P990)

24bit -> 16.777.216 colors (color printers, PC)

32bit -> 4.294.967.296 colors (Desktop PC)

64bit -> 18.446.744.073.709.551.616 (NASA??? NSA??? CIA??? Aliens???)

At most it could have 18bit (264K colors) like new SE P990 (24bit or above would be too much for such a small screen, you wouldn't notice the difference at all!)

bye bye
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] duke911:
:lol:

BTW, I believe HTC wants to separate users into 2 categories:

1. power users: those will carry powerful devices, but big in size

2. Multimedia users: those who love to play mp3 and take photos..

BUT the main problem is: most of us ( PPC users ) are both.. I mean.. I love to have a powerful device... it will ease much of my work... on the other hand, size is one of the most important factors to me - as well as many others -

so why doesn't HTC create a device that has most of the stuff ( I wouldn't say all since it's their commercial strategy )

I thought HTC will not use OMAP 850 after the wizard, but apparently, I was mistaken...

anyway.. I will not change my JAM, until HTC ( or anybody else, maybe E-TEN ) come up with a decent PPC that is considered a great jump in the industry, because, right now... it's not worth it :(

I believe it will take very long time now to see WM 5.0 working on our Magicians :cry:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
Has anyone heard anything about other carriers releasing this phone (i.e. imate, qtek, etc)?

I think HTC (or T-Mobile) are not looking at the MDA Compact II as a replacement of the MDA Compact. It is more of a continuation of the same model with some minor touch-ups so it doesn't look bad compared to competition (ie. older software & less ROM).

Regarding the processor, could it be that HTC found WM5 to work better on dual core CPUs? Or is it just a question of battery life?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] mix:
http://www.theunwired.net/./?itemid=2723

There are rumors out there which let us HOPE...

Let's see if any German guy can confirm or not this at the end...

;-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
What exactly are you on about? What lets us hope?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] mix:
If you follow the link, the news is that the T-Mobile version of MDA Compact II (actually a Magician, the latest one) will run Windows Mobile 5.

This info has been given to me today also by I-Mate italian representative and they admit there are some errors on their website about this.

I myself saw a QTEK S110 yesterday which was running WM2003 SE only...

This gives me HOPES WM5 will be present on MAGICIAN2, maybe not all versions of it, but there are chances we may have a try ourself...

Or not ? ;-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
Of course NOT. If you follow this thread from the beginning you will read that there WILL CERTAINLY be an MDA Compact II that will release later this month and it WILL CERTAINLY use a TI OMAP processor that will therefore make this WM5 ROM USELESS for us with a Magician.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] truedim:
new review from

http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/review.php?reviewId=1294

T-Mobile Compact II mobile phone Review

.....

Like the Vario we found this slowness can also be found in the running of the machine and the Compact II is noticeably slower than the MDA Pro – again 400Mhz compared to the Pro's 520 MHz and while its not slow enough to cause alarm, you do have to wait that nanosecond too long for programs to open and applications to respond.

......

not OMAP Processor, this is Xscale...

128 ROM 64 RAM
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] mix:
Go figure... Sometimes life is stranger than someone thinks...

So it's not a matter of how many messages someone can write, nor is a matter of reading EVERYTHING...

Nice to know.

Thank you.

BTW: it seems there are different specs out there. Someone says 128 Mb RAM (SDRAM), other 128 MB ROM... Any FINAL confirmation from someone owning such devices ?

Ciao
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] heretic:
Well, guys, as much as I want to hope for having WM5 on my Magician, I think we shouldn't get our hopes high. Just came off the t-mobile.de web site (I don't read German, though :) ) where I did a comparison between MDAc and MDAcII. Hate to tell you, but MDAcII does list an improved battrey life over MDAc. It follows:

MDAc: Talktime - 200 mins, Standby - 180 h

MDAcII: Talktime - 300 mins, Standby - 200 h.

Both of them have 1200mAh Li-Po batteries. So, judging by the figures, the MDAcII could really have a slower processor, hence the increase in battery life. This could mean NO WM5 for us because of the different hardware.

:D :shock: Just wrote all this and suddenly realized that WM5 is supposed to give increase in battery performance due to different memory organization. So the better battery life of MDAcII may be just due to it having WM5 alone. So we might not be f..ked after all. :wink:

Who knows... I guess, we'll have to sit and wait now... :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] ImmortalU:
Its been confirmed to have a TI OMAP 200 so thats where the extra battery life comes from....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Then basically we're stuffed. :cry:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be proved wrong, but the MDA Compact II runs on an TI OMAP 200Mhz (Dual Core) processor, like the K-JAM!!

The 400Mhz mentioned in the review could be 200Mhz per core = 400Mhz (EQUIVALENT). Or simply a mistake!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jimmy-bish:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/t-mobile/8448.htm#description

Read the features, 416 mhz processor.

If these guys are listing it as that and taking orders for it then common sense would say they received the info. If they are taking orders and listing the wrong prcessor then they're just plain stupid!

Maybe they are stupid, they're also listing 128 meg RAM. Everywhere else has been saying 64meg.

LOL, this post was just to confuse things more!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] thormdac:
Here is the machine: (sorry, german!)

http://www.t-mobile.de/business/hersteller/1,4516,6253-_4599-761-0,00.html

No knowledge yet about exact hardware konfigs.

NOTE:

Konfiguration states it to have `netlock`, which implies to be some kind of sim lock. Unlocking fees: Euros 85,78!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] truedim:
Here is the photo of MDA Compact II with Windows Mobile 2003 SE

http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/pressemitteilungen/dl_mobiltel_mda_compii_links_postbank.zip

If 2003SE (from MDA Compact, i think) can run on Compact II, then WM5 from Compact II can run on Compact :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Charlie Mouse:
The review has actually been corrected to read....

.....

Like the Vario we found this slowness can also be found in the running of the machine and the Compact II is noticeably slower than the MDA Pro – again 200Mhz compared to the Pro's 520 MHz and while its not slow enough to cause alarm,

.....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
a Rom from the MDA Compact II working on the Compact I would be great ;)

a bit off-topic:

I write a Mail to T-Mobile and thats what they said:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sehr geehrter Herr XXXXXXXX,

vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage an T-Mobile.

Derzeit ist kein Update für den MDA compact auf Windows Mobile 5 aus Lizenzrechtlichen Gründen geplant.

Für weiterführende Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

T-Mobile ServiceCenter

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

it means: there will be no Mobile 5 for the Compact I because of "license reasons"!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] derkie:
T-Mobile UK...

http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com.html

:? .... "No further release expected. This device is unable to be upgraded to Windows Mobile™ 5.0 operating system. The new MDA Compact II device will be a Microsoft Windows Mobile™ 5.0 device expected later this month.."
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
I think both T-Mobile Germany and T-Mobile UK are lieing.

The Magician IS upgradable but they don't want that. They want to sell the new Compact II.

Not so nice for the customers. Wasn't the Magician expensive enough???

For a few months old device no upgrades!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] sdamion:
Any news on this

Im still waiting is there any news on this mda compact 2

:)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shafez:
Reading all the above,I agree we should not raise our hopes as the new MDA II upgrade Rom could have a different check-sum and the upgrade software will not allow the update to a Magician.

At this stage we are stuck,it could be a Magician but still you don't have the ability to use the upgrade.

That also means a file dump using the SD card may also not work because of a different header.

Also it also may have a different Boot Loader to be able to load WM5,and which all WM5 devices have,in this case it is very resky to mess with the Boot Loader and you could end up with a dead box wich cost the earth to fix.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] vasek:
ROM for Magician II

I loooking for Magician 2 ROM with windows mobile 5. oficial
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jimmy-bish:
Re: ROM for Magician II

Keep looking, have fun :P

It'll be here if it's in any way compatible, you won't need to look far.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Chameleon846:
Win 2005 for Magician II

I have had the standard MDA Compact for the last 6 or so months.

My wife has just ordered one & it turned up today...

It's a PINK (!) T-mobile MDA Compact II... and it IS running Win Mobile 5.0 (OS 5.1.70)

It has an OMAP850-195MHZ processor & 44.11 MB memory

ROM version: 1.12.2.23 WWE

ROM date: 11/14/05

Radio version: 01.12.20

Protocol version: 4.0.13.23

ExtROM version: 1.12.02.107

Out of interest, I was unable to 'hard reset' the device in the normal way (it just seems to 'soft reset').

Any ideas how to download the ROM?

Do you reckon it would work on my standard MDA Compact?

(By the way I HAVE successfully downloaded my ROM in the past...)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Is the device really pink??? I can't believe...

Maybe you cannot hardreset because of the the new data protection features of WM5? Or its just another trick needed to reset.

Any volunteers to test the rom if its up :D :D ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] mix:
Re: Win 2005 for Magician II

Try looking at the Settings page... There should be a "Clear Memory" command which will HARD RESET your device...

Ciao

Mix
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Chameleon846:
Re: Win 2005 for Magician II

mix wrote:

Yes! There is a "Clear Storage" option under Settings - System

Once you confirm the device is reset back to factory defaults...

The main reason I was trying to do this was originally to use romupdate as with Win Mobile 2003SE, but I guess this approach won't work...

(...also I'm loathed to try anything that could mess up my wife's new phone!!!)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] chenman:
so i guess there is no wifi on the mda compact 2 then?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] littld:
How does it compare?

Very interested in how this compares with the normal MDA compact. Is it as slow as people say it will be? How does Windows Mobile 5 compare on the Magician form factor?

I am sure someone is going to try to back up the ROM from Magician II and then apply it to an old Magician. I wouldn't try it myself!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shafez:
Is this device out ?

Could someone upload the Rom Upgrade so we can see if it is possible to load it to our Magician?

Regards
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] arg0:
It has been told too many times already: hardware is different (starting from the CPU). So the ROM will NOT be compatible with the Magician.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Chameleon846:
Re: Win 2005 for Magician II

1. There is no wifi on the MDA Compact II

2. The Compact II appears very similar to the Compact, albeit running Win Mobile 2005. There are a couple of 'menu changes' & various new fuctions (like being able to program a different program to start with a 'long' press of the left hand button - ie single press starts hands-free voice command, long press starts memo recorder). The pre-installed voice dialler doesn't appear as good as the previous bundled version (you have to teach it

all

names in your contacts, there is no automatic generator), on the other hand it does let you start programs with a voice command... There again this is obviously only a software issue...

3. I haven't noticed a significant speed difference yet, but I have managed to get my hands on it much!

4. The Magician II requires activesync 4.0 in order to synchronise. I have got both my Compact & my wife's Compact II both synchronising with Outlook on the same PC & this works fine...

5. Unfortunately, when it was turned on yesterday morning it did not turn on properly & just displayed the screen you get after a soft reset. Nothing seemed to cure this & the phone is presently being replaced by another... I hope this doesn't become a theme!

6. You can buy the Compact II from several places online. We got it from here http://www.buymobilephones.net/store/fulldetails-19079.ihtml

7. Arg0, thanks for the note re different Hardware. I'm certainly not going to be the brave one who tries to install Win Mobile 2005 on my MDA Compact I !!! (I will, however, try to download the Compact II ROM though if someone can find a 'safe' way of doing so!

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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] zsizsi:
mda compact II german to english?

Hi all,

I just bought my German language mda compact II. I thought I was buying the old mda compact and I could change the language to english.

Is there any way to change it to English? I think I wouldn't even mind going back to windows mobile 2003 se either.

thanks

Andrew
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] thormdac:
@zsizsi,

cant help you with the changing stuff, but think about this:

How about swopping for my 6 month old compact1 with wwe from tmobile?

Cheers
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] IzaacJ:
I'd be the brave to test to put the ROM on my magician.

Ive read the whole thread, and Im a bit doubtful that it will work, but Im willig to try (spent almost nothing in buying this magician)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] keinenplandavon:
wow, where have you unearthed this old thread unanswered for 2.5 years?

There will NEVER be such a thing as an WM5 ROM for the magician... jfyi: MDA Compact II is NOT a Magician but a HTC Charmer. Looks the same but it's completely different hardware.

With flashing a Charmer-Image onto your Magician you will most likely brick your device.

so long

------

edit:

maybe I was a bit harsh. Welcome to the forum and good luck with your device! The magician was the reason I fell in love with these PDA-Phones. So:

XDA Neo (HTC Prophet) -> HTC Artemis -> HTC Kaiser; nov or dec to come: HTC Touch Pro.

Good luck PentaMedia!
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
delete
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
reserved for changelog

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
reserved for somme extra stuffs

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] endeavour900115:
Can you make a patch for MK16i and give some screenshots?

Thanks!
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Stevan Dj:
Download link not WORKING

Hey i want to try this rom and i well post feedback and some ss

but [MENTION=2482775]Achotjan[/MENTION] Download link is not WORKING
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
Hi other devices will be supported but till that i will need feedbacks to make the rom stable before releaseing for other smartphones

i havent an xperia Arc so when rom ready if you have somme free time pleas make somme screens so i can update the op

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
hi, the ROM is uploading right now 82% when finishedwill update the OP and write heare too

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
Rom released

Cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] endeavour900115:
My phone is PRO, not ARC:(
[Xperia Arc Android Development] theanelfro:
Can someone share Screenshots ?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
http://www.semcdebrandengine.com/medias.html heare is screens from 4.1.2 its writed cm9 but its a mistake

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] mkabhi:
This is my report. Sorry if its not upto the mark as this is the first time i'm doing this.

-Rom installs and boots up

-Gapps FC as mentioned

-App apk's installed cant be run.. they FC as well

-Wifi works

-Camera Works

-BT works

-Rom is pretty smooth after you let it sit for 2 mins

Thats all i can report for now as the phone is my daily driver. If the gapps fc's are fixed then this rom WILL BE MY DAILY DRIVER

Thanks Achotjan for your hard work! :good:
[Xperia Arc Android Development] mkabhi:
Screenshots

I have attached some screenies of the ROM for people asking as well :cyclops:
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
If someone wants blue framework,weather widget and Home with Xperia Z homestage from OP Screenshot i will upload them ;)
[Xperia Arc Android Development] Achotjan:
thnaks for the Pictures my friend ;) and for everithink you did ....

cheers

Achotjan
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
No problem ;) and i will help any time
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
I quit don't understand what this ROM is all about.It's cynogenmod/aokp based which is modified to support all feautres of latest xperia apps or we have features of cynogenmod as well? What's difference in this ROM from other ROMs available here like anzumi white and z1 honami?They are modded as well to look like z1 and latest xperia ROM.

Looks promising by the looks of screenshots.Will try some day when i have free time and ROM is improved with stable release because i use my phone for daily use.

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How is phone dailer? does it lags like in other ROMS or port.It seems new one.
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
The other rom abe based on ICS adnd this rom is on CM10 and it brings all features from Sony Xperia 2013 devices.. On other rom things are themed too look like some apps but this is ported and this rom is blazing fast ... You have to try it the judge it ;) And about the PhoneBook is opening fast and it is fast and smooth ;)
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
Thankx for the reply.how's the camera?it's aosp or sony one? :p What's wrong with available RAM? it's too low? Taken from official website? :)
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
It is Still aosp camera ...What kernel do you use i am using 3.4. and i got plenty of aveliable RAM

Link --> 3.4 Kernel
[Xperia Arc Android Development] mkabhi:
The dialer is super quick! Everything about the ROM is fast. Just a couple of bugs to fix and it'll be the best 4.1.2 ROM for our Arc!
[Xperia Arc Android Development] mathewgx:
I was waiting for something like this. Please , make it available for RAY , too.

I could be a tester if you need one...
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
No no this image was taken from semc debrand website.I think it's old one then.I have not installed this ROM yet just got curious.I have GB ROM now to play fifa 14 :D I will try this ROM later.thankx for the replies guys.keep the good work.
[Xperia Arc Android Development] n1kolaa:
for camcoder maybe you can port from xperia j [MENTION=2482775]Achotjan[/MENTION]

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for camcoder maybe you can port from xperia j

[MENTION=2482775]Achotjan[/MENTION]

also its beter porting android 4.2 coz 4.3 got screen lags and more bugs then 4.3
[Xperia Arc Android Development] esarve:
I have some questions:

1. 720p record working?

2. Does notification drawer looks like Xperia JB's notification drawer??

3. Aosp camera app or cybershot?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
for 1. i think it won't as it's aokp camera and 3. it's aokp camera.

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i thought it was new sony dialer, then i read in OP it's stock one.Stock dialer is quick on 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 too.
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
It is Sony dialer from Xperia Z 4.1.2 ..
[Xperia Arc Android Development] @ARC-S@:
[MENTION=2482775]Achotjan[/MENTION] Could you please upload the ROM to another site please? Uploaded.to is totallly CRAP. I'm being limited and can't download the ROM :(
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
Oh i thought it was aosp dialer as mentioned in OP.That's great news. What gapps are not working(FC) at the moment? are apps downloaded from market runs ok or they FC as well?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] gangstermartorell:
[MENTION=2482775]Achotjan[/MENTION], I can help you porting it to Xperia Play, we have a stable CM10 release...

Cheers, and keep up the good work.
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
Look at the screenshot's do you not see the dialer... It is metioned that is aosp phone but it should be SemcPhone if you know what is that ?

For now all gapps are o working.. Chrome, Google play, and any other google application
[Xperia Arc Android Development] shoeseat:
i just asked because in OP it's mentioned "- default android phone.apk instead of SemcPhone (need the smartphone to port it cause need days of tests) ".

what is "o working"?
[Xperia Arc Android Development] nikhil381:
cannot download... any image available on any other site
[Xperia Arc Android Development] MarioJerkovic:
Yes because in CM10 there is no SemcPhone the apk is called Phone.apk it not the dialer it is Incall apk but the dialer is from Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Arc Android Development] xbox360k550:
TNX Achotjan for very cool ROM

Some screens from my Lww, ported myself :D

And some bugs:

Stamina goes phone to bootloop(after it need reinstall ROM)

Some items in SDE control FC(lockscreen, weather)

Reboot options in to CWM don't work + android process crash

Sometime android.process FC

Small size RAM ~100-120mb

xLoud&Clear Phase don't work together(xLoud died after 5sec playing)

Small aps don't work

Camera without mike's FIX

And wee need Somc.Phone and Sony SystemUI ;)