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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] TheNewGuy:
Well Google does in fact close Android all the time. Every Google service is closed source. That's why cm got in trouble all that time ago.

And (from my understanding) every third party app we love now used the open source as a base and improved it.

(ADW or other home replacements) That will get harder as Google brings more of those "apk's" under its closed source "Google services" umbrella.

So, it is still open source OS... With closed source parts. Always had been. ... Just more and more fundamental parts of android OS is becoming closed.

For example,

Kit kat now has nfc Se built in to the newest version of the open source Android OS. .. right?

So. Could I write a Google Wallet Competitor? It's open source.... Right?

But it's not. It would only work using googles cloud SE.. I would have to write my own cloud SE. That is Legal.. is open source after all. But like I said, by the time I actually did it, my customers would want googels next big feature.. that is also closed source...

See what I mean?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] @rbiter:
I meant strictly OS. I am quite aware Google is closing up many services, a few that are fundamental to the OS. Nonetheless, not all of Google's apps are the end all be all. I for one, adore Google maps and Google search. .and to an extent gmail. A lot of this does center around gmail. I try to make sure I don't get too sucked in, much like many iOS users or even android users that don't see if the grass is greener on the other side because they've vested too much into a particular ecosystem. I hope Ubuntu makes a big splash when they finally get their hardware out. And perhaps tizen. Android/Google does need to be kept in check or it will get too big for it's britches. Apple thinks they own **** and can get away with the fluffy marketing but many people are starting to see seeing through it. I do like to inform people of how Google is fencing up android and it's services and to still keep an open mind and be on guard should Google ever cross a serious line. I do believe open source is the wave of the future on all software and hardware fronts as the world starts to get even more small with all the technology at fingertips reach.

sent from my sm-9005.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mrlaigle:
http://phandroid.com/2013/11/14/nexus-7-google-wallet-apk/

Can this be of any help to us?

I installed it with nexus build prop. Needs libs still... Guessing we will need 4.4 for this to work..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
No hardware secure element has been confirmed in the device and the carrier blocks the sim secure element but in Android 4.4 none of this will be an issue anymore
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
So on the note 3 just have to edit the build prop correct? Everything else works but when I touch phone to the icon on the food machine nothing happens lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] @rbiter:
What about USA note3's with international sm-9005 roms flashed? Has anybody tried going that route?

Sent from my SM-N9005
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
So has anyone got this to work on our phones lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
It does not work....no secure element work around...tap and pay will not set up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] pyrilium:
I thought I posted this, but apparently not?

I found two things that might be relevant to the original discussion (wallet on the stock N3).

First is a file in etc, specifically /system/etc/security_nfc_profile.dat. It's a binary file, but if you hex dump it some interesting things show up. A particularly interesting example is here:

...
00000150 32 0a 63 6c 69 65 6e 74 6c 69 62 40 73 79 73 74 |2.clientlib@syst|
00000160 65 6d 2f 66 72 61 6d 65 77 6f 72 6b 2f 6f 72 67 |em/framework/org|
00000170 2e 73 69 6d 61 6c 6c 69 61 6e 63 65 2e 6f 70 65 |.simalliance.ope|
00000180 6e 6d 6f 62 69 6c 65 61 70 69 2e 6f 64 65 78 0a |nmobileapi.odex.|
00000190 37 63 34 30 61 65 39 32 38 39 34 62 38 64 32 65 |7c40ae92894b8d2e|
000001a0 34 35 36 32 63 36 32 34 65 34 33 32 64 64 33 62 |4562c624e432dd3b|
000001b0 36 31 37 62 37 30 38 62 0a 63 6c 69 65 6e 74 6c |617b708b.clientl|
000001c0 69 62 40 73 79 73 74 65 6d 2f 66 72 61 6d 65 77 |ib@system/framew|
000001d0 6f 72 6b 2f 63 6f 6d 2e 61 6e 64 72 6f 69 64 2e |ork/com.android.|
000001e0 6e 66 63 5f 65 78 74 72 61 73 2e 6f 64 65 78 0a |nfc_extras.odex.|
000001f0 34 34 61 65 39 64 62 66 33 35 39 39 31 36 38 37 |44ae9dbf35991687|
00000200 34 30 31 37 36 35 33 31 34 32 34 38 63 31 66 35 |401765314248c1f5|
00000210 37 38 32 31 62 63 38 35 0a 63 6f 6e 66 69 67 40 |7821bc85.config@|
00000220 73 79 73 74 65 6d 2f 65 74 63 2f 6e 66 63 65 65 |system/etc/nfcee|
00000230 5f 61 63 63 65 73 73 2e 78 6d 6c 0a 66 61 64 31 |_access.xml.fad1|
00000240 38 38 37 39 65 31 32 35 37 62 37 37 65 35 64 39 |8879e1257b77e5d9|
00000250 65 31 66 63 31 32 30 64 35 62 61 32 65 35 31 35 |e1fc120d5ba2e515|
00000260 34 35 66 63 0a 3c c1 99 53 74 ea 1a 18 e6 16 a8 |45fc.<..St......|
...

That last stanza has the descriptor "config," "@system/etc/nfcee_access.xml," and a hash of the preexisting nfc_access file - SHA1 if I remember correctly (not MD5). I haven't had time to play with it, but it's possible that injecting the correct hash for a modified nfcee_access.xml would solve the issues seen with previous mods of that file. I'm pretty sure this file (and maybe nfcee_access.xml) is in a separate SEAndroid domain from most of system, so it may have to be modified/overwritten during init or require some other kind of trickery.

The second thing I found is an activity in settings, called "NFC secure storage" or "Settings$NfcPaymentSettingsActivity". Running this activity gave me a warning about how setting it to "manual" might cause problems with things like contactless payments; the pane itself has two settings: auto - described as auto-switching between SIM and internal SE - and manual - described as SIM only.

As I said, not much time to poke at these yet. I'd love to, but the amount of time devoted to getting started in a new position simply doesn't allow it yet. I hope this can be useful to someone!

.p
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
This is exactly what I said previously and had a disagreement about with a certain person. Definitely wasn't being a pecimist, just common sense prevails, you could see the pattern developing. I was spot on, same thing happened with the S4, took forever to get 4.3.....working together to give isis more time, isis is absolutely trash

http://www.ibtimes.com/android-44-k...amsung-devices-wont-update-until-2014-1466588
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dannyben:
Try This...... And happy birthday!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
Won't work. Isis works fine for me till kit kat comes out in Jan then we can use wallet on the note 3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
I tried but it won't flash in recovery, says failed, I extracted zip on phone there were no files. Thanks for sharing
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dannyben:
That weird... I think xda is having a problem with their download section.

Try again.....

http://bit.ly/1d6FimY
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Can somebody post the following files from their TMO rom?

Also, include any corresponding .odex files

/system/app/NfcNci.apk
/system/app/SmartcardService.apk
/system/framework/com.android.nfc_extras.jar
/system/framework/nfc_hci_services.jar
/system/lib/hw/nfc_nci.MSM8974.so
/system/lib/libnfc-nci.so
/system/lib/libnfc_nci_jni.so

Disregard.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Why not post where you actually found it and maybe give some credit?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
So is the fix below not good for the tmo note 3 or do you still need the files up above?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
It should be good, but there's at least one person reporting it broke nfc, so I would like those files to check the differences between sprint and tmo, but I'm just downloading a rom now so I can pull the files from it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dannyben:
That was fast. LOL. ;)

Of course I always give you credit.

Was just posting to see if it worked and then ALL CREDIT to you!!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Had a tmo user report it didn't work so I came here to grab a rom, and saw this thread. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Hey can we used the hacked version of wallet from the s4 version? I assume if not we need to mod build.prop. I flashed zip nfc appears to be on although it's not showing in my status bar pushing hacked wallet will report back
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Yes, the hacked wallet will work on any device/rom.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
This is what I got... It said all set were good to go so I hit done and this came up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Can you go to /system/app and tell me if you have Nfc.apk and/or NfcNci.apk?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
I have both.... Originally I think it was just nfc until I flashed the lib fix
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Ok, it seems the sprint variant uses NfcNci.apk, and tmo uses Nfc.apk. I'll try to get to the bottom of this tomorrow. Gotta go to work!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Sounds good thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
And just a heads up, in the OP under more info you have some incorrect information. There's only one wallet app that gets installed regardless of what device you have. The app itself handles the build.prop checks. You can install it from the play store, then change your build.prop, and then open the app and it will be the same. All my modified wallet app does is remove those build.prop checks.

Just letting you know!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
OP hasn't been updated in a long time. Used to have different methods, one zip would have been libs and app for TW and if AOSP same wallet app no lib fix. Thanks for information
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Get the first image, then it fails instantly, I believe nfc broke after flashing libs posted in the forum. I tried changing build.prop reset and removed wallet same results, just wanted to double tap and make sure and help where ever possible
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Can you do me a favor. Go to system/app and rename nfc.apk to nfc.bak and then rename nfcnci.apk to nfc.apk and then reboot.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Ok well I stand corrected, that broke nfc... See picture
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Was hoping that wouldn't happen. Working on it now.

You can just remove nfc.apk and rename the other one back

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Can somebody try this one?

Nevermind.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] blacklabel2020:
Will I first do the S4 wallet install then flash this or what are the steps
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Unable to flash, says it failed during flash... File size is small
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
I also tried and it failed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Sorry about that. This one should work.

File size should be around 425KB.

EDIT: Still not working.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
So close, but it continues to fail. This time it took a few minutes I thought that it was going to work. So close.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] loserskater:
Alright, another test.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Zip failed to flash
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
I think something is wrong with the download, it only downloads 345 bytes
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
get it to work on the note 3?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] photrash:
Flashed it and I get nfc FC's. Running tweaked rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] compucanton:
Any luck with this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
None that I seen, can't wait for kitkat
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
Meanwhile I'm using my physical google wallet card but it is not as great as using the phone. Can't either wait for KitKat!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
SM-900T does not have a secure element. It will never work on it under 4.3. Wait for 4.4. We already went over this earlier in the thread - if people read it, they'd know.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] the-Mike_D:
Yeah but the physical Google Wallet Card is nothing more than a prepaid card. You have to load up your own funds into it first before you can use it. The tap and pay app doesn't need anything loaded, it redirects from your bank or credit card or whatever and acts as a momentary middleman. I love that about it especially for instant and easy record keeping.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
Yes the sm-900t does have a secured element, built in the new sim car you have to get.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
No, it does not. The phone does not have a buit-in secure element, which is the only kind Google Wallet can use.

The ISIS SIM card cannot be used as a secure element by Google Wallet. In fact, it cannot be used by anything other than the ISIS Wallet, because no carrier will ever give out the provisioning keys to their ISIS SIM cards.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
Well my tmobile note 3 has secured element. That's what the isis sim card is according to the representatives from tmobile. When 4.4 is released it is said that it won't use a secured element
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dannyben:
LOL. Didnt you read his post? he said it doesnt have a "BUILT-IN" secured element. Which is REQUIRED for Google Wallet's Tap & Pay to work. The SE thats in your sim card will ONLY work with ISIS.

The phone companies got together and MADE samsung ship their phones without one (Even Sprint did now too -- as they are working on their own version of Wallet/Isis). They did the same with LG and their G2.

So..... After years of getting their tail wooped by the carriers, Google FINALLY grew a pair and updated Wallet to now use HCE which is BUILT-IN to their android system and which the carriers are NOT permitted to remove.

The ONLY way to make Wallet work on the NOTE 3 would be to create a mod that utilizes the 4.4 HCE and port it back to 4.3. But, why bother when its a project and 4.4 is "rumored" to be released in weeks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
The phone doesn't. The ISIS SIM card does, and Google Wallet can't use it. Re-read my post.

Again, Google Wallet only needs a secure element on Android 4.3 and earlier. On Kitkat, it no longer needs a secure element, so Tap and Pay will work on any phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
so like i was saying the SE is built in the sim card, but only works with isis. this correct? 4.4 is rumored to have eveything built in so our phones can use google wallet tap to pay. but we shall see if its true. i rather use wallet then isis

---------- Post added at 07:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:49 AM ----------

sorry misread your post
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
Yes, the ISIS SIM card acts as a secure element for the ISIS Wallet app only. No other app can access it. A secure element is needed for tap-and-pay functionality ONLY on Android 4.3 and earlier.

Android 4.4 does not use a secure element at all; it uses HCE (Hardware Card Emulation) which does everything in software, so any phone running Android 4.4 will have Tap and Pay with Google Wallet and other apps that use the HCE standard (you can actually select the app you want to use with Tap and Pay in your phone's Settings screen).

The new Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 don't have secure elements and Tap and Pay works just fine on them with Android 4.4; it works on my Nexus 4, too, as well.

Because the SM-900T does not have a built-in secure element, this entire thread is pointless, because Google Wallet will never have Tap-and-Pay on this device until we get KitKat ROMs for it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
So do we have the HCE? or is that just the NFC chip?So when 4.4 it should work then?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
Host Card Emulation is a software framework. It's part of Android 4.4 KitKat.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
So on the cm11 being worked on and released will it work on that rom?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dadealus:
Well I'm running kit-kat now, :P can't wait to test if we have any ideas for a solution
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
Once the 4.4 international leaks will we be able to extract from there the hce portion and flash to our device?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dannyben:
If you guys check the youtube video in my GS4 TouchWiz KitKat Rom, you'll see how wallet is now built into settings and works STRAIGHT out of the box! Just download wallet from the playstore, put in your pin, and in less that 3 seconds t&p ready!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2608134
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisa887:
Have to wait till Debs update their rooms for note 3. I'm on cm11 so I have it built in already but touch wiz should have it when ROM uodates
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] LaseOfFury:
Ok so I just upgraded my Note 3 N900W8 to Android 4.4.2 (Mexico Leak + Rogers CP&CSC)

I Tried google wallet but Tap & Pay is still the same.. "Not Available"

I even created a new account and used a modded version that always seen your phone as a nexus while using hotspot shield set to the U.S. and I got nothing. Not even the ability to try setting it up.

So... I covered the following.

Android 4.4: YES (But i could not find for the life of me the NFC Tap & Pay Settings shown in some pictures with Google Wallet in it)

Device Name / Build: YES (Using the modded wallet, It showed up as a nexus)

U.S. IP: YES (HotSpot Shield)

Maybe it looks at my sim card...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
Finally got it!! 4.4 rocks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zaydaboss:
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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] devynbf:
Touchwiz lib fix has a broken link.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisrotolo:
Share with the rest of us?

Did you just follow OP instructions?

thankx
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] xboxhacka:
How did you get it to work?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
No I'm on a 4.4 rom.

The thing is that I didn't test it yet, but others report that it doesn't work, but it did set it up so I'll have to try it out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] pogotv:
Well does it work ? Enquiring minds want to know

:)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Dovigoldberger:
Nope. Sorry ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] andersonpaac:
HCE

So , now that 4.4 has been leaked and it doesn't have host card emulation , this thread is the only hope to getting the tap to pay working on the note 3. Has there been any way with any compromises to get tap to pay working on the note 3 yet?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] toastido:
So I was looking through the /system/csc/feature.xml file and came across the NFC settings. Looks like they are set to ISIS:

<!-- NFC -->

<CscFeature_NFC_SetSecureEventType>ISIS</CscFeature_NFC_SetSecureEventType>

<CscFeature_SmartcardSvc_SetAccessControlType>GAC</CscFeature_SmartcardSvc_SetAccessControlType>

<CscFeature_SmartcardSvc_HideTerminalCapability>eSE</CscFeature_SmartcardSvc_HideTerminalCapability>

<CscFeature_NFC_StatusBarIconType>Tmo</CscFeature_NFC_StatusBarIconType>

I wonder if setting the Google ones will help?

They are:

<!-- NFC -->

<CscFeature_NFC_SetSecureEventType>GOOGLE</CscFeature_NFC_SetSecureEventType>

<CscFeature_NFC_SetAccessControlType>NONE</CscFeature_NFC_SetAccessControlType>

<CscFeature_NFC_SetOffAsDefault>true</CscFeature_NFC_SetOffAsDefault>

---------- Post added at 09:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:04 AM ----------

BTW here's the reference:

https://code.google.com/p/free-gs3/source/browse/trunk/system/csc/feature.xml?r=46
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
The note 3 for T-Mobile is a pain in the butt... HCE seems hit or miss with 4.4, when the official release becomes available there will be much more coverage on it, xml tweaks for NFC and what not... loserskater has been doing similar for the s4 but they actually have a Secure element built in and we don't
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cds36:
Saw this article and just loaded 4.4 but havent tried it yet has anyone confirmed it yet ? seems to be working with other devices on tmobile

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/26/psa-google-wallet-tap-and-pay-functionality-appears-to-be-working-on-most-kitkat-updates-for-devices-on-isis-carriers/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] FiWi:
Google Wallet will not work on the Note 3 w/ 4.4.2. Samsung used an NXP chipset for NFC on the Note 3 and 4.4.2 only has HCE support for Broadcom chipsets at the moment. I guess we'll have to wait for the next version of Android...

You can read more about it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2573842
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] toastido:
Hmm. The HTC one uses an NXP chip set yet it's reported working on in the article. I'm not sure this won't work quite yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] FiWi:
Well yes, tap and pay is "available", meaning you can set it up, but that doesn't mean it will work. Tap and pay is "available" on my Note 3 as well. I can set it up and everything, but it doesn't react at the payment terminal (my S4 Active worked). Unless Samsung implements something to make it work, we won't see tap and pay this time around. I hope that I'm wrong though!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
I am going to be pissed I was patiently waiting for this and it looks to be another let down..... How frustrating
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Persianhawkes:
Coming from the KitKat update thread seems it does not work on our phones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigdreco:
Is there anyway to get Google Wallet to work with the ISIS SIM card??

since the ISIS SIM card and app pretty much does exactly what Google Wallet does..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] toastido:
I'll eat my crow.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
So I tried installing the patched version of Google Wallet and it sure would not let me add my account, however I then downloaded from the market and installed with the galaxy nexus prop and I got NFCSETUPFAILURE1...Will do some looking around. Again The Carrier blocked Tap and Pay option as usual...Hate Carrier Branded phones
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
No.It would require heavy modifications to Google Wallet and the carriers giving us the provisioning keys to their ISIS-enabled SIM cards, which will never happen.

---------- Post added at 08:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:20 AM ----------

Wrong. Read the "Why KitKat Doesn't Have Tap and Pay" thread.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bdorr1105:
Kit kat does have tap and pay and it shows up after changing the build.prop to a non carrier branded phone, it just wont complete set up....Tap and Pay will set up and has already been done on other phones
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] siraltus:
Did you even read what I wrote or did you just post a knee-jerk reply to be "right"? Stop spreading FUD.

T-Mobile isn't blocking anything. Wallet won't complete setup because KitKat's HCE framework does not support the NXP NFC controller used in the Note 3. The only currently supported NFC controller is the Broadcom one used in all the Nexus devices and in some phones like the HTC One - which is why Tap-and-Pay works just fine on the T-Mobile HTC One in KitKat. Same for the Galaxy S4.

Tap-and-Pay on KitKat will not work on the Note 3 until Google updates the HCE framework to support the NXP NFC chip used in the Note 3.

Read this, maybe you'll understand: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2573842