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[General Questions and Answers] 4bakra:
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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bklm1234:
Coming from Note 2, I'm so utterly disappointed by the Note 3 speaker. It's weak and has a very cheap sound. My Note 2 (now in my wife's possession) has a rich sound. I can't believe Samsung regressed on a very simple yet important feature. It always amazes me Samsung or HTC or Motorola hasn't surpassed Apple in Smartphone sales with Android being so superior to iOS. I always know why because these cheap sons of *****es are nowhere as serious and detail oriented as Apple when it comes to hardware. Apple really gives you premium components in all aspects of the phone. Think about it, Apple, Samsung, etc all charge about the same for the flagships. But Apple throws in the best antennas, sensors, screen, speaker, camera, processor, mmc, memory, now even a fingerprint scanner (even though I don't give a damn about it). What do others do? Go skimpy on components here and there. WTF? My Galaxy S3 for example got no reception while my wife's iPhone 4S was merrily surfing the Internet away at a July 4 fireworks venue. Same Sprint network. S3's antenna just stings like a MF. Samsung particularly is most shameful because they make so many components in house. If not for Android, Samsung etc. don't deserve to compete with Apple. Don't get me wrong. I hate Apple. But I love their hardware and their attitude to making the best hardware the industry possibly sees. I was hoping Apple drive the competition. But the competition falls asleep on the wheel. OMG.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PaulGG:
I agree the external speaker is slightly better on the N2. My wife also has my mint titanium grey N2. However with a headset the difference is amazing far superior to the N2. I have been streaming music on my N3 all day in work from play music, and for me volume and quality are fine. Most of the sound features are designed for a headset on the N3. External speaker and mic pick up on speaker phone again seem better than the N2. It takes a bit of transitioning from the N2 to 3 but I am loving mine.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
You and others hung up on the external speaker really need to get a grip. This is from another thread and says it best.

It's also not nearly as bad as people are making it out to be and there are advantages to it being on the bottom vs. the back where it's easy to block.

Here's my N2 taping a video playing playing on my N3 and vice versa. It's the same TV show (Modern Family) being played back on my cable company's video app minutes apart. Both phones are at max volume. The N3's flat on its back on a desk and the N2 is propped up in a Seidio kickstand case because it can't lie flat on its back without hobbling its audio. The recording distance is the same.

N2 recording N3

[YOUTUBE]jij4_N7ekF4[/YOUTUBE]

N3 recording N2

[YOUTUBE]gbngBWtXvDo[/YOUTUBE]

If the external speaker is that important to you return your N3 and buy something else. Samsung's not going to change it so it is what it is.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
I totally agree with the Op and have said since release day, the external sound quality is way too monophonic, it's so bad to my ears that I'm trying to sell my N3 and will keep my N2.

It's not just poor audio quality, it's overall system sounds, they're harsh.

Very cheap sounding speaker Samsung, shame on you.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoKushan:
I have no issue with the sound on this device.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brava27:
LOL, If anyone is obsessed with a tiny speaker on a phone they need to buy a boombox, not a cell phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AvatarReborn:
The sound on my N3 is 10 times better then what I had on my original Galaxy S.

I'm pleased with it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mrlovkim:
I have no issues with speakers.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpill2016:
This one is a mystery to me as well. Given I haven't heard an HTC One that's supposed to sound really good, but if I'm listening to music or something for which I'd want really good sound quality, I'd hook it up to a dock or use headphones regardless of how good the little speaker on the thing is for its size. It's never going to hold a candle to headphones or a real set of speakers.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
I must have a faulty phone then. Because even system alerts sound thin and monophonic on my n3.

On note 2 rich and full, a real contrast.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tubgirl:
LOL! Why settle with a 5,7" display when you can get a 65" plasma!! Pockability is a *****, isn't it?

I don't carry headphones with me all the time... in fact I rarely do. I just want to enjoy my phone. Ever heard of "multimedia" (key word being "multi")? It doesn't mean just a good screen. You need some audio to pair that video with and unfortunately the N3 just doesn't deliver in that department.

In my book, to buy a flagship device you don't want to settle with something just being good enough, you want something much better than average... well in my case I was actually willing to settle with just average. I wanted to get the N3 really bad but after comparing a youtube clip with weak audio with my N2 I realized that the N3 wasn't even average... it was worse than average. I'm keeping my N2 because both audio & video is better than average ;)

/Tubgirl
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
I used a N2 for almost a year. I agree the sound coming out of it had more detail than what's coming out of the N3 but to call it "rich, full, a real contrast" is putting the N2 on a pedestal it doesn't serve to be on. The N2 was a great phone but had plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The N3 is a great phone with plenty of strengths and weaknesses. The only thing that's changed is what's moved from one category to the other. At least to me, it would take a hell of a lot more than less detail coming from an external speaker for me to overlook all the material gains Samsung's achieved with the N3.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stesteste:
everything on the note 3 is way better than the note 2 apart from the speaker I did take mine back to the shop and had it replaced and my replacement sounded alot better so I think it's some speakers are better than others, but overall cracking phone love it
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
Going back to the N2's display, especially in bright sunlight, would be downright painful. And according to your argument that's a key part of "multimedia." Add to that the quality of sound the N3 puts out via BT and the 3.5mm jack which I listen to multimedia with 97% of the time and your whole argument seems a bit silly. Listening to anything for any length of time over any phone's external speaker isn't multimedia; it's either a necessity borne of no other options or just plain masochism.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rchapoteau:
I noticed that when I play music it sounds good and loud. However when I was on a phone call, the volume was very quiet out of the speaker. It could have been because of the other person I was talking to, but I'm not sure.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BarryH_GEG:
I've had to take two conference calls of over an hour each using the the N3's external speaker. The sound is plenty loud. In fact, the thinness everyone's complaining about doesn't come across in phone calls because the content (people's voices) is pretty constant. On the plus side, the three mics and noise cancellation of the N3 got positive comments from people on the receiving end of the conference calls and those on my side didn't have to do a football huddle over the N3 to be clearly heard.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CorruptedSanity:
I don't know about the quality. I don't use it to listen to music.

But the volume is considerably lower than the S4.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] salvationn:
LOL!!!...if u bought the note 3 for sound, or was expecting Bose to come outta there then u purchased the wrong phone lol....The note 3 is a maestro at multitasking..a literal powerhouse...I mean this phone rivals most laptops.

Take a moment to appreciate the awesome sexy piece of tech in ur hands :):D
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] airyras:
I only use the external speaker when im in the shower. I dislike people who walk around with their speaker volume up ...I dont wanna hear what you are listening to. People that complain about the stereo speaker need to get over themselves.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
I couldn't care less what you like hearing. The quality of sound isn't great from the Note 3, that's my point. I'm used to a better sound from my Note 2. Hopefully devs will sort this out in favour of the Note 3 shortly anyway.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaungregg:
Evne the Htc One speakers can't compare to the cheapest boombox at Walmart, nobody walks around with their external speaker jamming sounds. Like others have said I only ever use my external speaker when in the bath or shower and thats only because I haven't bought a dock or small player for the bathroom. The sound on this phone is just fine, heck I keep it turned down because my notifications get too loud. Its a good thing you prefer the Note 2 over the Note 3, think of all the money you just saved. Maybe Samsung will improve the Note 4 enough to coax you away again next year.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
No, I think of the £620 I've already wasted buying it. Ya know what? I can't even get £400 for it on Gumtree now, and Carphone warehouse are only paying 275 trade in. So, I'm going to keep it, and learn to live with the tin pot sound, cos I can't even give it away. .
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deny_winarto:
N9005 has better audio quality than N9000 thanks to wolfson DAC

I suspect OP (and other people with audio complaints) has N9000 version (exynos) which uses yamaha YMU831

Just like mine, kinda dissapointed too, my 2 year old BB 9790 has better audio output :(
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MohJee:
If I had something in my life that's making me this bitter and miserable, I'd get rid of it for free even. Give it to a hobbo in the street and sleep better.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kromosto:
if i am not wrong n9000 has wolfson not n9005
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Lol, that was funny. Nah I'm keeping I think, it is a great phone, I'll overcome my fixation with the speaker, (love the sound thru the 3.5) so it's not all bad after all.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hhadrian:
Samsung sell many more smartphones Than Apple They Are number 1 In the world for smartphone sales
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
2nd video won't play, says it's private?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dr.m0x:
High end I'd say apple are probably still on top. Samsung have won the race by saturating all ends of the market. Regardless of your budget there will be a Samsung smartphone within your reach.

On topic though I don't see anything wrong with the note 3 speaker. Notifications are louder and more clear then my note 2 in most situations because of the speaker placement. For example when it sits on my desk the speaker is pointing at me instead of into the desktop and when it's in my jeans pocket it's pointing up at my head instead of into my leg.

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlCapone:
yes, the internal speaker is a huge disappointment, the worst sound of any device I had past 10 years.

Do not play Youtube videos for others, it's embarassing. - hope Samsung reads this and offer a fix, this is unworthy such a hi-end device.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekoRngear:
Neither of them has wolfson dac.

SM N900 has Yamaha ymu 831B.

SM 9005 has qualcomm's WCD9320 17500 Audio Codec.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kromosto:
vaow :( . which one is better?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hendrickson:
Both good, Yamaha one maybe slightly better (Louder?)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
I absolutely agree with every word you said. I hope they patch the audio, it's such a let down, I agree fully.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoJo2211:
The speakers on the Note 3 are an ABSOLUTE JOKE!

Note 2 > Note 1> S4 > S3 > Note 3

It's that bad!

I feel embarassed to even turn up volume on this thing, it's like Shaq opening his mouth speaking like Justin Timberlake.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
I'm embarrassed too, the music quality I can eq and live with.

But system sounds are harsh you tube videos are best viewed in private now.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
Speaker sound is not great but not the worst, yes we do expect more when we are paying top dollar. However Samsung have always had poor speaker sound in comparison to iPhone and more recently htc one. I was hoping for better speaker sound but deep inside I knew it was wishful thinking.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] desiregeek:
I agree, the built in stock and single speaker on the Samsung Note 3 sucks. Compared to my HTC ONE the single spear in the Samsung Note 3 pretty much sucks
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dan37tz:
I guess I'm the minority here but I think the Note 3's speaker is pretty damn good. You want to hear a crappy speaker? Listen to the new LG G2. I couldn't hear anything out of that damn phone, one of the reasons it went back.

I would describe the speaker as 8/10 the quality and loudness of the Note 2, for an evolutionary device it should be the opposite. I think maybe that's why everyone is harsh on it, EVERYTHING should be better on the Note 3 since it's the 3rd generation and I would agree. It doesn't quite match the Note 2 in the speaker department but saying it's one of the worst speaker is quite the exaggeration.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JoJo2211:
Just tested my Note 3's speakers with wifes iPhone 5's..

iPhone 5 OWNED it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sohebq:
For me its better than note 2.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
for me my Note 2 owns my Note 3 speaker wise. It's like night and day.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
Speaker sound is very disappointing compared to Htc one and iPhone.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Glad other people hear the difference, if only Samsung would release a Note 3s with a beefy speaker, it would be a killer phone imo then. Til then multimedia wise it's a let down.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
It's a shame and I suppose those who haven't heard speaker sound on iPhone and Htc one won't have a clue how bad it is. I've said before and I say it again samsung are cheap skates and ripping off their loyal customers. Still using cheap looking plastic, cheap speakers and lag touchwiz how can they get the basics so wrong, I don't think it's out of ignorance but about profits.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vdai:
Ignorance is bliss? I've never really compared the sound between the iPhone or HTC One and I'm sure it's probably a very superior aural experience. However I didn't buy a Note 3 for its "immersive soundstage" or "rich contrast" or whatever people in this thread are saying to describe music like they describe a fine wine (with lots of big adjectives).

I bought it for it's glorious big-arse screen and boy is it glorious!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Totally agree, I even mailed Samsung, and tweeted them saying as much, know what? No reply.. Such a caring company who listen to their loyal customers. Shame if only they'd listen..

I believe Samsung are launching a 'Premium' range of phones early in the new year. Great, so perhaps they'll have a degree of quality, but we'll have to pay through the nose for them.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Week 2 of using the Note 3 and I agree the speakers are pants, they are sufficient for phone calls and thats about it. Use headphones if you want multimedia, for £600 I expected better. Also the OS doesnt help, no fade in/out of noticifcation just cuts the sound of the active application, (very annoying) when listen to music or watching a video.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Trouble is, even through headphones I'm not totally impressed, having spent a few weeks with it myself.

I think need to root and try DSP manager or something. Without that, the speaker sound all round is still a let down.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
Thanks for that but we're discussing how poor the speakers are. if it's screen which excites then you should buy HTC max it's bigger and more beautiful. Software is more polished to boot.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 43t62Wiinikain@gmail.com:
:rolleyes:...!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Have rooted my N3 and installed Viper4AndriodFX. After setting it up it does make a difference, less tin and more warmth. Bass and treble are much clearer with depth and detail.

It does not fix the speaker but merely allows tuning so you can at least set it up the way you like it.

Stock Music Player doesn't work with Viper4AndriodFX. So I installed Sony Walkman from Xperia Z.

Audio performance is now acceptable but still not impressive by any means.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Thanks mate. Tell me - does Viper improve overall audio or is it for the earphone experience? If I could tame the overall harsh highs and boost the output slightly I think I'd find things a bit more bearable.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Viper4AndriodFX has 3 tabs Headphones, Phone Speaker & Blue tooth. Only played around with Headphones/speakers settings.

There are a lot of settings and a DSP so it takes a while to complete setup.

I tried all sorts of apps/playing material and now settled for Sony Walkman (as my music player) and BSPlayer (video player).

All running from MJ6 rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Sounds great, it's been recommended to me before - just a bit cautious about rooting and even installing the files. Do you flash them or download them a and install? Thanks .
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
I already flashed CWM recovery so my KNOX is already 0x1.

Best go 'root de la vega' method as it's KNOX safe.

For Viper4AndriodFX there's two versions zip and apk.

I went apk as there's no need to reboot in recovery mode. You just install like any other application.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] volumenn:
for me

Note 3 > Note 2> Note 1 > S4 > S3
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Ah gotcha thanks, the vega method looks long winded , plus once I install a rom ill trip anyway, think I'll just root and install cwm if I take the plunge and screw the counter(and warranty)

If I go Viper zip I can just flash it from cwm ya?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Yes zip flash using CWM

1) CWM - using ODIN 3.09

2) Boot into 'Recovery Mode'

3) Flash 'SuperUser' zip

4) Flash 'Viper4AndriodFX' zip

5) Spend hours playing with settings! LOL

I too plan to install custom rom just waiting for cyanogenmod.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Good man! Thanks. I'm happy with my Note 2 audio but it's bugging the hell out of me , wondering if my Note 3 can be made better sound wise.

I take it there's presets with Viper, similar to dsp manager perhaps?!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Yeah lots of presets, I went custom presets - screen shots attached.

Would be interesting to see what presets you / others prefer.

Also not sure aboit 'speaker optimisation',sometime I prefer it off
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Nice one thanks again, think I'll pull the trigger soon. Only downer is losing the occasional Sammy updates as I'm unbranded sim free.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
I am too on SIM free Note 3 purchased in UK (firmware BTU).

Yeah OTA says my device is modifed but Kies3 beta works fine, it updated me from MJ3 to MJ6 but I lost root and had to reroot after update.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
That's interesting. I've never used Kies, have it on pc looks like I may need to start .I paid £620 for my N3 im assuming it's BTU as well, does that mean stock Samsung firmware or something?!

Does that mean you can update with Viper installed via Kies but just lose root access? I assume once updated can re - root and all is fine still?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
Yes update via Kies3 and reroot to get back mods.

I paid £580 from ebuyer.co.uk

BTU is our firmware region. Samsung region locked the N3 so there's different firmware for different locations, the 3 letters determines what location.

Kies3 will tell you when you plug in it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Thanks mate, you've enlightened me a lot. I'm only a casual flasher so to speak, still learning and appreciate your replies :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Toke I installed Viper fx on my 4.3 note2 very interesting. Especially through earphones, lots of scope. Very impressed even within 5 mins lol.

It's working with stock Samsung player for me, not sure why. Perhaps its been fixed in latest update?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Also - if i root my Note 3 and install Viper and Samsung releases an update. .If I update thru Kies. .will Kies just install the patch for the update, like it does when ota and leave your installed programs intact etc? Or does Kies wipe your phone and install the huge FW? Just curious mate, weighing up whether to root my N3 or not? Thanks .
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
I always thought Viper4AndriodFX needed root access. If you don't and it works already don't root.

Kies3 will keep the apps but some don't work as it needs root access.

You have to reroot after samsung updates for those apps to work.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Sorry I didn't explain myself and made a typo. I've installed Viper fx on my old Note 2. My questions were regarding the Note 3 that isn't rooted yet mate, sorry. You've answered it tho, I'd expect rooted apps to no longer work etc, but if my mobile desktop remains after a kies update that's great.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toker_X1:
I only done 2 updates since I had the phone OTA (pre root) and Kies3 (post root). Mobile desktop remained the same both times.

I had some app icons in folders that needed to be put back in the folder again, that's about the worst of it. Apps/emails/contacts etc... we're still there after updates.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Great thats what i was hoping, sounds same as OTA updates on mobile then - stuff remains, FW just gets changed slightly etc.

I'm most impressed with Viper in the earphones, really nice features. Thats on my Note 2, just not sure whether to bite the bullet and screw knox to put it on my Note 3 - really tempted tho.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GalaxyS4Man:
True that...

Why Samsung atleast include 2 crappy speakers, I was disapoined also coming from S4, noticed the difference. Other than that this device is superior with 60fps fullhd and 4K camera, so no complaints there, loving the backplate, no more fine scratches or annyoing glossy look :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCM800:
Yep they neglected the speaker this time around. You do get used to it in time tho I must admit. But you always know it could have been better thought out.