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[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Ok I take back what I said about their customer service.

It turns out that the "fix" earlier only started to let me receive text messages sent through email gateways, not normal text messages like from other people.

I did a chat support session again, who said I had to call 1-877-789-3106 and request one of these mythical "rebroadcasts". I call that number, and after a ten minute wait am told they can't do it, but connect me to the people who do. Ok, so I talk to this new set of people, except when she finds out it's a prepaid account says that she cannot help me, but again connects me to people who can. I'm now on my fourth representative in about 20 minutes (counting the online chat too) and it's not looking good.

After more hold time I finally get through to someone who can purportedly help me, so I describe the situation. Apparently she cannot hear me well from her end (it was perfect for me, as with all of the other reps) and asks me to confirm a completely different problem than what I described. I repeat it again, and this time she gets closer, but thinks that I want to stop receiving text messages. After my third explanation and her, again, not understanding what I was saying, I called it quits and hung up. To be clear here, she spoke perfect English, she just had a terrible connection or something because she could not understand what I was saying.

So yeah, I need to have this "rebroadcasting" done apparently, but getting it done is like getting blood from a stone. I wish they had email support, or a single point of contact. I am a little tired of being bounced around from pillar to post. And I still can't receive most texts!
[General Topics] adrman:
Yeah, I've experienced the bouncing first hand with an auto refill billing issue. After that debacle, I started using callingmart and the like exclusively. Good luck getting the text issue resolved. Keep us updated.
[General Topics] TheDannemand:
[MENTION=5096590]Gaffadin[/MENTION]: Thanks for sharing your ongoing porting adventure. I understand your suffering. Hang in there.

Like you, I found T-Mo customer service to be mostly quite good -- and well meaning (NOT Comcast-like). But sometimes it just falls though the cracks completely, like what happened to you on that last call. Another call next day can make all the difference.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
I can't fault their politeness, but politeness is not getting my incoming texts working again.

I've located supposedly a "higher-up" support email address - executiveresponse@t-mobile.com - and have sent them a polite mail seeing if they can help. I will certainly post back here with any response.
[General Topics] adrman:
Here's a link to a post over on the GV Group that may be of some use to you. It sounds as if being polite didn't work in this instance either. FWIW, He's blaming the problem on TM.
[General Topics] tokuzumi:
The couple of times I called T-Mobile CC, I wasn't sure I'd ever get anything taken care of, because they spent most of the call thanking me for being a t-mobile customer.
[General Topics] 954wrecker:
Been with them for years (~10) on the prepaid side. No offense but there is definitely a language barrier. I've given up on asking them to do things because they usually do the opposite of what I request. Can you stop texting me those reminders over and over every month please I know when my account renews I have never missed a payment and I have plenty of cash in the account to renew like always. The few times I told them that and asked them to stop texting me they completely turned off my texting capabilities! I know it's my fault for trying repeatedly but every few years I try and they always F it up.

sent from my note 3
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Thanks for the link. It does pretty much describe the issue. And yeah, T-M reps absolutely like to tell me how great a customer I am.

No response from the "executive" email address yet, which I am a little disappointed about. Maybe T-M executives don't work Fridays.

Still no incoming texts, and apparently my outgoing are not always working, either. I thought they were, as they had been going through, but when I checked with some people I had sent texts to yesterday they had not received them.

Good times.
[General Topics] yahanna:
How can u be with tmobile for 10 years on prepaid when prepaid didnt exist that long on tmobile?
[General Topics] TheDannemand:
I read the post to mean the member has been with T-Mo for about ten years, currently on prepaid. He/she could've switched between postpaid and prepaid a few times during those ten years, that's not really important.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Quick update. Still no texts :(

Made a post on T-M's community forums last night. Still no reply by this afternoon, so I sent them a tweet to their support team. Got an email address to start to correspond with (tforce@t-mobile.com) and they have done a rebroadcast but I'm still not receiving texts.

They have asked me to get three people to text my number, and then note down the time, number, and network each was coming from, so I just got three people to send me texts (I received none of them) and sent the info to T-M. They said this would help their engineers find out exactly what was happening.

Wish me luck!
[General Topics] segin:
I'm here to recant an experience I have had with this plan.

Recently, they were off-and-on blocking tethering on this plan. Read the prepaid site's plans page, read all the fine print, it suggests $30 can tether.

Call 611, they say no, it cannot.

I wrote email to an inbox belonging to someone high up, asking what's going on with the tethering, because no disclaimer at all is on the website.

Someone from T-Mobile left voicemail a few days later informing me that they had given me a $30 credit. They got my name... and gender... wrong, but who cares.

I used a VoIP app to call voicemail and record the message, which is attached.

In the meantime, I've been working on a little "iptables" frontend for changing the TTL of all outgoing packets on a given interface to a single value, which may or may not hide tethering usage. You can find it on Google Play as "TTL Editor"
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
There is a fix floating around on this thread that enables tethering on the $30 plan, too. It involves editing the protected file settings.db, and so requires root. I've read there are options which do not need root, but I haven't tried them.

With regards to tethering, I'm of the opinion that I've paid for that 5GB and so I should be free to use it in any way I wish, be that from the phone, tethered to a PC, or as a wireless hotspot for my kids. It's ridiculous that they (not just T-M, all carriers do this) can get away with charging you extra. This should be the next thing their "Uncarrier" strategy hits.
[General Topics] yahanna:
I'm on a $40 prepaid plan on tmobile. I got a phone with wifi calling. But I cant make free wifi calls internationally. I thought wifi calling was free. Am I wrong?
[General Topics] jkaiser10123:
wifi calling using your voice mins if you dont have unlimited mins

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I actually been using harbormobile.com lately with a 30$ plan unlimited text and calls and 1gb lte for 30$. They basically have every tmobile play 20$ cheaper and you use tmobile sim and get all benifts like the music streaming not counting toward fast data. They are not an MVNO so you get same speed as Tmobile proper
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
I am partially receiving texts now. After the tforce@t-mobile.com people did a rebroadcast on my number, I started to receive some, but not all texts sent to me. I can receive messages from Verizon, and some online services (my electric company, my credit card company) but not AT&T or Twitter SMS notifications. I'm unsure on receiving from T-Mobile or Sprint as I didn't have anyone to hand on those services.

The T-Force people opened a ticket with their engineering department to take a closer look at things. I then received a message tonight from the engineering department, saying that they had modified some further settings and that normal texting should now work (it doesn't), but that while they were looking at my stuff they noticed something else which would make MMS messages not work properly. She said they should have picture messaging working by tomorrow.

The weird thing was, my phone didn't ring, and it wasn't a missed call, she just left it directly for me as a voicemail. At first I thought there was an issue with my phone, but then after it rung fine when I tested it I figured that since she worked for engineering it was probably well within her abilities to leave me a voicemail directly if she wished to. She said she was going to call me again tomorrow, so hopefully I'll actually get to speak with her.

I also finally got a callback from T-Mobile's "office of the president" executive support team, whom I had emailed last week, and he gave me his number to call in case I was still having problems. When I found I still wasn't receiving some texts I did try to call him back, but he didn't answer and his voice mailbox was full so I couldn't even leave him a message. At this point I'll probably just stick with dealing with the engineering department, since that's probably just who he would put me in touch with anyway, and they're already handling it.

So yeah, still dealing with this. I'm really hoping this gets resolved soon.
[General Topics] baiju2012:
How long have you been with harbor mobile? How is their service? I mean to resolve any issues, like billing etc.

Nexus IV
[General Topics] jkaiser10123:
Been with harbor only a month but billing works like prepaid no contract and though I did have issue by phone getting them to do stuff on my account normally if you chat them online or email I have good reseults
[General Topics] CptanPanic:
Ran out of data for month with week to go due to streaming works cup. Damn it is slow.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Finally got text messaging working completely.

At first my MMS messages to others were being delayed by a couple of hours, but eventually they became instant again. I am now receiving all text messages and picture messages from everyone, and they are receiving all of mine. So it took about a week to shake everything out, all told.
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What did you have to do? I'm currently having this issue and it's very annoying.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Per my other messages above, email tforce@t-mobile.com giving your name, T-Mobile number, and account PIN, and ask for a rebroadcast on your number. It will take ~24 - 48 hours to be effective, and should hopefully fix the issue. If it doesn't, email TForce back and ask them to open a ticket with engineering to take a closer look at your account.
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Thank you.

If I could wish for one thing for the Nexus 5, it would be to have an iMessage like function. When I travel, I gotta be on WiFi, so I can't receive texts to my number like on iMessage.
[General Topics] adrman:
That would be Google Voice. ?
[General Topics] :
But I'd have to port my number over to Google Voice, right? Then get a new T-Mobile one?
[General Topics] adrman:
If you wanted to keep using the same number, then yes. It's exactly the situation that [MENTION=5096590]Gaffadin[/MENTION] ported away from.
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I asked for them to rebroadcast and they responded asking to explain what that means...
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
You ported your number and that's when these issues started, correct?
[General Topics] yaconsult:
That is a very interesting variation of the t-mobile $30 plan! Going from 4 GB of LTE to 1 GB of LTE in exchange for unlimited voice. And the coverage is exactly the same as my current t-mobile coverage, eh?

I need to use my first 4G phone - a Moto G LTE - more to see how much data I can actually use in a month. I really don't want to stream movies or tv to my phone - lots of other devices to watch that stuff on.

I would be very interested in feedback from other users who have switched from t-mobile to harbormobile about what, if any, differences you noticed.
[General Topics] cas8180:
I am sure it varies with each carrier but I have sprint and I configured google voice to work with my sprint phone number but just installing the app and going through the settings. Now even my other phone ( which obviously has a different number) and my tablets all get synced with google voice as the app is on all of them so I always get my text messages AND phone calls from my main phone number particularly when there is no cell reception available and just over WiFi. Google voice is the sh** and probably Trump's I message in many ways.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
One thing I have found the past few days which is kindof awesome is mySMS: http://www.mysms.com/

It basically lets you text from your browser and then syncs those texts to your phone, or vice versa. It's similar to MightyText if anyone has heard of that, but it uses the new KitKat SMS API so you don't get duplicate notifications, as mySMS becomes your new SMS handler.

You can also use mySMS on a tablet or another phone, and keep all messages in sync everywhere.
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Yes. They had me verify I was updated to KitKat. Then informed me Hangouts doesn't support MMS over WiFi.
[General Topics] 954wrecker:
Party is over sorry guys they must have figured out the mistake and pulled the plug on it
[General Topics] saaggee:
It's not coming up as $40 for me for some reason.
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
Checking out this website, seems really cool....do you use Google Voice with Harbor Mobile, and if so have you had any problems? Also, how does their WiFi Calling work? Good quality, works with custom ROMs?
[General Topics] jkaiser10123:
Its basically like the company signed you up under like a business line so once you sign up you can create T-Mobile login. It is a postpaid account for T-Mobile that you are paying harbor mobile to get their discount. Technically you should be a business line but they don't check. So it is for all purposes of service regular postpaid T-Mobile with no contract paid through harbor mobile so can not do phone upgrades or anything and plan changes you go to harbor mobile

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I use google voice on it and if phone has T-Mobile WiFi calling it works fine I used WiFi calling on T-Mobile note 2 no issuse but now on verizon unlocked lg g2 so no WiFi calling on my stock install . I did use crDroid 4.4.4 cm11 based ROM on my lg g2 with it a bit no issues
[General Topics] Child's Play:
Google voice is the bomb! I wish it supported mms
[General Topics] acegolfer:
Has anyone migrated or been thinking about harbor mobile, which uses T-mo network?

https://www.harbormobile.com/

$30 plan: unlimited talk, text, web + 1 Gb LTE

This plan sounds better than Tmo $30 plan, especially when one doesn't use more than 1 Gb data. Any downside?
[General Topics] tokuzumi:
That's a great plan if you don't use much data, or are always connected to wifi. I guess the only downside would be T-Mobile will give preference to their pre and post paid subscribers before 3rd party resellers, with regards to accessing a tower (higher ping and latency). And I don't know anything about their customer service, but I would imagine it would be on par with other 3rd party providers.
[General Topics] ski522:
How do you know they would do this or are you making an assumption? Sounds like bad business to me if TM did such a thing.
[General Topics] adrman:
That's standard business practice when dealing with an mvno. However, there's a thread over on Howard Forums that states Harbor isn't operating as a mvno, but as value added reseller for businesses, in which case you'd get the same priority as a post paid TM subscriber. It also means that, technically, Harbor shouldn't be signing up individuals, unless it's for your own business. I'm not sure what will happen when TM figures it out. The HF thread contains some opinions on that as well.
[General Topics] bcook75:
I have moved my Google voice number back to T-Mobile. I'm using T-Mobile visual voice mail (which they told me wouldn't work on my Nexus 5, but does) to get voice mail directly on my phone without calling in, Mightytext to get texting from my PC, and Wephone for outbound calling on WiFi or data without using my 100 minutes. Wephone isn't free, but $. 01/min is 100 minutes for $1, and the quality is good , and it can spoof my real number for caller ID on the receiving end. I use Textra for texting and it handles MMS when on WiFi. Seems like a pretty good alternative to Google voice to me.
[General Topics] ctlvr:
VoIP question ?

Hello. Been sitting on this plan for 2+ years. Works great with GVoice. But having trouble finding how to make calls over data/wifi. All VoIP apps ive used stopped working with GVoice or started asking to create an account and add funds ( Talkatone , MO+ etc ). I am already paying for a plan, just need a reliable way of using GV with my ported number . Any tips on whats out there still works and uses GV number ? Thanks .
[General Topics] sirxdroid:
Use an older version of GrooveIP, it still works with GV (but it may stop at any time). Or maybe you can port your number to ring.to via the new GrooveIP app and get free calls. The Vonage app also lets you make free outgoing calls and you can set your GV number as the caller ID. Otherwise there are other affordable but paid VOIP services that lets you set caller ID.
[General Topics] lchiu7:
I use Vonage but sometimes I find it won't call certain (types) of numbers.

So I also use a Callcentric free SIP service and configure my phone to point to that SIP account. I then forward my GV number to the Callcentric number so calls to my GV number ring on my phone.

For outbound calls, if Vonage doesn't complete I use Google Voice callback (available on the Amazon Android store). This app intercepts your outbound call and then arranges for Google Voice to call you back (on a predefined number which could be your SIP account as above so no minutes). When you answer the phone Google connects you to the originally called party. It sounds a bit fiddly but once you've set it up, it works pretty well.
[General Topics] sirxdroid:
Good point about GV callback option. I forgot about it. Sounds like a good choice with Callcentric.
[General Topics] coorsleftfield:
I have the new GrooveIP with Ring.to working great on this plan. You don't need to port a number, GrooveIP creates a ring.to number for you.

The app has some built-in GV support as well so that outbound calls go over GV and callers see your GV number.

For inbound calls, forward GV to your new ring.to number, and GrooveIP will ring.

Been playing with this setup for a few days, and so far, inbound and outbound calls are working perfect, and all with the GV number.
[General Topics] whatthephil:
This is the plan I have too. It never tried to charge me $80. When I go over the 100 minutes it charges me 10c/min if I have any money in the account.

It's tax free if I buy a prepaid card. $30 flat. I only wish I could have tethering for this 5GB plan.
[General Topics] lchiu7:
Not sure what you mean. My daughter tethers all the time on this plan. She in college and between apartments and her phone is the only way she can do Internet at the moment.

I think there are some issues with tethering with a Nexus 5 since TMO has found a way to block that but there is an entire thread on XDA which describes how to get around this.
[General Topics] HzMeister:
I was considering this but ended up going with page plus for voice, a messaging app for text, and freedompop for data. I pay something like $10 a month for everything i need albeit at a small inconvenience.

Btw, has anyone else been to europe lately? Data is basically free - like it should be. You only have to pay for voice minutes you use - which are fairly inexpensive.
[General Topics] brockkk:
Noooooo. Didn't know google voice voicemail didn't work with this plan. Bummer.
[General Topics] gf6:
My wife hates it, she's going to switch back to VM
[General Topics] emd2009:
OK...
[General Topics] brockkk:
What's VM?
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
It seems that's not entirely true; mine didn't at first, but one day it just magically did. There's plenty of people on various forums around here who have had problems, lots who didn't have problems, I'm not sure what T-Mobile's system is or isn't doing consistently but I'm using GV for voicemail exclusively and turned off my T-Mo voicemail months ago.

You might try getting in touch with Customer Service and having them turn off your T-Mobile voicemail and see if that works; if not they can always turn it back on.
[General Topics] AdamHart612:
Google Voice voicemail works just fine. Are you using your Gvoice number? I had Tmobile deactivate my Tmobile voicemail so that there wasn't a weird overlap, and everything works perfectly.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
Looks like the oft-rumoured Hangouts / Voice merging finally started today: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/hangouts-2-3-calling-new-ui/

The good news if you still have a Voice number is that you can receive voicemails in the Hangouts app, and MMS messages to your Voice number now actually work (kinda: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/10/mms-now-a-part-of-google-voice-hangouts-sort-of/). Also, if you make WiFi calls through Hangouts it shows your Voice number as the outgoing number for the caller ID.

Since I ported my Voice number out to T-Mo a couple of months back I see some random 646-560-XXXX number as the caller ID when I make WiFi calls through Hangouts. It would be nice if that was my real T-Mo number, but maybe that is fixable.

Either way, good news for anyone still using Voice.
[General Topics] yellowsnow4free:
Quick Questions Regarding 3 Plans

Hey everyone,

I'm about to join the 20th century and get a cell phone soon.

I'm trying to decide between these 3 plans and I have some questions:

Harbor Mobile - $30 + tax / month unlimited talk, text, and data (1st 1 GB @ 4G LTE speeds)

T-Mobile - $30 / month 100 min talk, unlimited text and data (1st 5 GB @ 4G LTE speeds)

BrightSpot - $35 / month 300 min talk, unlimited text and data (1st 3 GB @ 4G speeds)

Are there any additional fees to be wary of on the Harbor Mobile plan?

Does the T-Mobile plan charge tax here in California? Is #MUSICFREEDOM included?

Does BrightSpot offer 4G HSPA+ or 4G LTE data? Is there tax in CA? Is #MUSICFREEDOM included?

I was reading earlier in this thread that the T-Mobile plan didn't charge tax, just a straight $30 / month. Not sure if that applies to prepaid cards. If they do charge tax, that'll put it at the same price as Harbor Mobile.

I don't know much about BrightSpot (their website is pretty sparce, and I didn't get any info when I called their support).

If any of my info is incorrect please let me know.

Thanks!
[General Topics] 954wrecker:
Go with 5gb of 4g LTE. Especially now that Google voice can take and make calls for free on Wi-Fi and data through hangouts. In California I've never paid tax for refill cards and target always gives me 5%-15% off the price.

The plan definitely includes music freedom I'm using it now and it never touches my 5gb of LTE

I've made calls and taken calls with my Google number through hangouts on Wi-Fi and LTE without costing me any plan minutes.

The calls go over LTE for me and use almost no data

sent from my note 3
[General Topics] slowpok22:
So we'll be able to make voip calls again? That sure would be nice
[General Topics] brockkk:
Well I ported my old number from Verizon to T-Mobile prepaid. I hadn't even thought of porting the number to google voice. (For $20 right). Then after I do that I would have to get a different Sim from Walmart and just use it for data/text?

When I brought up google voice voicemail I was talking about the call forwarding option.

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I also live in ca and don't pay taxes to refill. I just pay through autopay and it charges exactly $30 every month.