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Also change the server under phone settings to 185.35.78.38. That will fix calling on phone data. You can change port to 5060 or 5070.

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No problem :)
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
30 dollar a month user here just got My Nexus. Was actually in such a hurry I walked into a TMo store and paid the premium they charge.

Ran some AWSOME speed tests today:
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
I was happy with GrooveIP and Groove Forwarder: GrooveIP for the VoIP capability with Google Voice, and Groove Forwarder in order to have my GV settings automatically set to work with VoIP whenever I connected to WiFi.

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Well I'll be darned.....I enabled Google Voice Full/got a new GV number on my main Google Account, set it up, etc, and it worked perfectly in terms of 1) forwarding the call to my phone and 2) taking/indicating there's a voicemail through Google Voice.

I'll have to play around with it a bit, but it seems I might be able to make the jump back to full GV after all!
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Damn I just want it setup then use it when I need to.
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You can do that to. In the dialer just set internet calling to "Ask Every Time".
[General Topics] slowpok22:
Anyone tell me why I keep getting these From t mobile ? Activate:dt=6
[General Topics] bozzykid:
You need to deactivate visual voicemail on your account. Or try deactivating and re-activating.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
I've registered a Simonics account and linked it with my Google Voice account, and while I got it working fine in a SIP client (CSIPSimple) I couldn't get it to work with the native dialer. Is there some trick to it?

In the first screenshot, "password" = the secret key I received from Simonics when I set my account up there, correct?

With the above settings, if I try to place a call through the native dialer I get "Server Error. Try Again Later" although the same settings work fine in CSipSimple.

(Edit) Figured it out (with Google). It turns out you have to toggle the "Receive calls" on then off in the dialer settings. Since I didn't want to receive incoming calls through VoIP (they're forwarded through GV anyway right now) I just left it unchecked, which didn't register the account properly. Toggled it on, toggled it off, now it works perfectly.
[General Topics] SystemErrorOne:
i AHVE THE $30 Tmo plan that he OP speaks of I never paid Tax just a flat 30 bucks & all I did to refill my phone was link my debit card to mytmobile account and it auto re-fills my card/phone every month.

I must say that I have used this $30 100 minutes and Unlimited Text with 5GB 4G data for about 6 months and I just recently switched to the $50 unlimited Talk + Text & 500MB of 4G > then they throttle you to Unlimited 3G and you can use as much data as you please. This saved me tons and tons of money. Its prepaid and I get excellent coverage where I live. It cant get any better than this...Oh did I mention No contract. Yep.
[General Topics] veeman:
I have the $30 plan now also. It's good :)
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
I'd love to see some 'throttled" speed tests from this plan..if you get a chance! Cheers!
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
In kilabytes not bit please!
[General Topics] DDM123:
Just divide by 8, Einstein. 8 bits = 1 byte

I think the answer is in this thread already anyway. It's something like 128kbps.
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Change your server to 185.35.78.38. That was the only way I could get calls to work over phone data. Port can be either 5060 or 5070 UDP/TCP (UDP recommended).
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
If I change it to 185.35.78.38 the SIP account does not register; it works fine with gvgw8.simonics.com on both wireless and 4G, though.
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Weird. Wifi calling worked for me, but 4G didn't lol. Only way I could get 4G calling working was changing my server.
[General Topics] mamcmac:
Hello,

I'm from germany and will be in NY for two weeks.

This tmo-30$-plan would be perfect for me.

Do i just have to go to walmart to get it?

Is it possible to get it without an address in the US?

Anything else that could be a problem?

Thanks for help.

mamcmac
[General Topics] DDM123:
Just so you know, if you're going to New York City, there aren't any Walmarts here, thankfully. There are some nearby, but they're tough to get to. If you have a US address you can ship a micro sim activation kit for $0.99 here: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card
[General Topics] colorado_al:
Your server is 185.35.78.40

give that a try.

Also set your APN to IPV4/IPV6 or just IPV4.
[General Topics] whitedragonz83:
Why did you switch from the $30 plan to the $50? Just for the minutes? Coverage shouldn't be any different, I thought.
[General Topics] SystemErrorOne:
Yea just for the minutes. I talk a lot on the phone haha
[General Topics] colorado_al:
My Google Voice SIP calls had crazy echo even if I reduced the earpiece volume. I'm using CSipSimple now and the echo cancellation is way better. Also fixed the incoming caller ID issue.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.csipsimple

Also, I can use TCP to help save battery life. With the native Android SIP client I could only use UDP or my calls would drop as soon as the other end answered.
[General Topics] paperWastage:
it's unlimited 2G, not unlimited 3G speeds

i'm on the postpaid 500MB unlimited plan, but the throttled speeds should be similar

between 15kiloBytes/s and 50kiloBytes/s throttled

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49262735&postcount=6
[General Topics] Caelrie:
Wish I could, but Google doesn't support local numbers where I live. Can't get them from Google or port them to Google.
[General Topics] SystemErrorOne:
are you sure its 2G that they throttle you too ? im pretty sure its 3G...
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
You're still connected to LTE...so 4G connection simply throttled to 2G/EDGE-like speeds.
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
Yes it's 2g and they even state it on the plan it's 2g.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
"Where indicated, full speeds available up to data allotment; then slowed to up to 2G speeds for balance of service period."

Makes me wonder if we get 100MBPS speeds someday, will we be throttled to LTE speeds? :p
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
People have been getting 100 Mbps speeds already on T-Mobile in Texas, haha. Unless you mean megabytes per second, haha.
[General Topics] harveydent:
Yeah, they throttle you to EDGE
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
.12 is 3G? I think not lol. Thats in Megabits per second so 120 Kilobits per second is considered a top end 2G speed. Sprint has some of the most horrible 3G in major metro areas which often stretches from 500 Kbps (.500 Mbps) to around 1.25 Mbps. While other carriers like Verizon have 3G in the range of 2 to 3 Mbps.

Thats obviously based on cdma networks. 3rd Generation tech covers a wide range. Sure the earliest forms of UMTS were slow as balls. But when you say 3G on T-Mobile I am thinking 7.2 Mbps HSPA in which I routinely get 3 to 6 Mbps on but people in crappier areas probably don't.

Even so ask T-Mobile they consider that to be 2G speed somewhere in between GPRS and EGPRS.
[General Topics] jimmyjoebob:
1G, 2G, 3G, 4G etc are not speeds they are technologies, 4G can be as fast as 1G on a burdened network.
[General Topics] Dragn4rce:
Leave this here for you future T-Mobile users...

Switched today.

Sent from my Ñ£×Ú$ 5
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
When a carrier claims they are throttling you to 2G speeds it is a discussion of relative speeds to the technologies AND the carrier is using marketing terms. Thats what the discussion was about and I was careful to compare carriers with known 3G technologies and mention technologies relevant to the speeds being discussed. I am well aware of the fact.

Their definition of 2G is around 120 Kbps which falls between GPRS and EGPRS which are 2G technologies. But you are being throttled to this wether you are on Edge, HSPA, HSPA+, LTE.

120 Kbps would not be considered a normal speed on any 3G technology I have ever used. It can happen very often but Sprint being considered the worst 3G of any major carrier at a paltry 500 Kbps in a major metro area that can't handle its traffic. It is a normal relative speed for a 2G technology. I know well that the term is of technology generation but even ask the FCC. When a carrier is speaking without mentioning the technology the carrier is using a marketing term relative to speed. They are very interested in that very subject even though advertising is really none of the FCC's business is it?

If they advertised "then throttled to 3G after that" and gave out 120 Kbps pretty sure the FTC would want to investigate.
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
2G3G4G
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
Right :p I felt I was specific in mentioning the actual technologies though. The thing is in technology there is always going to be marketing versus reality. This case was a marketing one. Not sure why I had to be educated on something I was aware of so I was just replying.

I came from having a WiMax phone so when you say 4G people always like oh I have LTE too. WiMax doesn't have lte like upload speeds so its kinda a different ball game, same generation though.

I am loving this plan and the speeds for sure compared to Sprint.
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
Oh yeah, and people will complain about that, too. See, I moved from Sprint 3g to T-Mobile LTE, so I can't complain about even slow LTE speeds.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
LTE looks good on both my devices iphone and nexus
[General Topics] colorado_al:
Skype is way better than Google Voice & Groove IP or Simonics/SIP CSipSimple etc on 3G

I've been testing the various ways to use my Google Voice number and VOIP with the Nexus 5 and the T-Mobile $30 plan.

All of the SIP options that I explored as well as GrooveIP worked fine over WiFi but over 3G or even LTE thay had all sorts of connection and voice problems.

The most reliable and best sounding solution for me is to forward calls to my GV number to my Skype number. I have a Skype number that I can send and receive calls from for $60/year. I can configure Skype to send my GV number as the Caller ID when I place calls.

People who call my GV # get forwarded to my Skype # and the call comes to my Nexus 5 over 3G/LTE/WiFi. If I don't answer, GV takes a message.

The only problem that I have with Skype is that when someone calls my skype # directly and leaves a message there (on the skype voicemail system) I don;t get a notification of the voicemail through the skype app on my android unless I sign out and sign back in, or change from wifi to 3G or vice versa. I've made a request to Skype to check it out, but I bet they will do nothing. I can live with it though as the voice quality over 3G is far superior to any of the XMPP Google Voice scenarios that I have tried.
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Well, I was busy working and off today, went to go sign up at Simon Telephonics and it looks like it's closed for registration.

I just refilled my account this morning, charged me like $2.50 in tax.
[General Topics] leyvatron:
Should do more than one test. I'm on Verizon and thinking of switching to T-Mobile. So the plan is 5gb then you get throttled down?
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
Yeah 5GB of relatively unthrottled data and then you go down to 120ish Kbps until the next month. Basically fast enough to keep your device functional but slow enough to barely want to use.

Personally I used 3 to 6 GB most months on Sprint figured I could keep it to 5.
[General Topics] SystemErrorOne:
Aghh I guess there's taxes for everything :/
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I noticed that. Luckily I was able to sign up for my account before they closed it off. If you need an alternative, try Sipdroid and use it to set up an account linked to your GV with pbxes.com
[General Topics] adrman:
If you refill on T-Mobile's site, the tax depends on where you live. Get your refill from callingmart.com and you'll save the tax.
[General Topics] leyvatron:
Thanks guys. I would need more than 5gb. Last month I used 30gb on Verizon. Another question: Verizon speed test shows 3-5mbs T-Mobile speed test shows 15-22mbps Verizon still opens up pages faster than T-Mobile. Seems like T-Mobile has a delay in the beginning before it start to go fast. Why is that?
[General Topics] bozzykid:
Compare the ping times. Once you are over 5mb/s, ping times are really more important than speed. People get so caught up with 30-50mb/s speeds when 5mb/s will load a web page much faster if the ping times are significantly less.
[General Topics] paperWastage:
again, check the service in your area before you switch, esp if you have an unlimited verizon data (this $30 prepaid plan is cheap to test for a month)

i know for hspa, tmobile forces your connection to hspa(3g) during idle, only going up to hspa+ (3g+) during data usage (think its called fast dormancy)

att tricks the handet to show 3g+ all the time, but think its still the same data handshaking in the backend

dunno for lte whether theres a connection handshake needed
[General Topics] PresidentMcCain:
Speed test tethered to PC:
[General Topics] bkeaver:
I tried to use T-Mobile prepaid service but the coverage isn't quite there yet. I got 1 bar of service at my home on a good day. Too bad too cause it was going to save me a ton of $$ over my existing AT&T plan.
[General Topics] yanksrock1000:
Loving this plan, 5 gigs is more than enough for me, and I dont really call that much....I get great tmobile service in the san diego area as well, and it actually beats our AT&T in Sprint in some places, and always better service than Sprint. Its great!
[General Topics] coorsleftfield:
I've had the $30 plan for a month now. I wanted to try out magenta and see if it works for me because the $30 price is awesome.

First the good.

1. Price and speed rock. I live in an LTE area and LTE is blazing fast. $30 month for 5G high speed is great.

2. Voice and data at the same time. (but not over LTE, drops to 3G. Not a big deal)

The not so good.

1. I can't live with only 100 minutes. I talk on the phone too much, and really need unlimited minutes. See #2

2. Before everyone jumps in about using SIP, I did this, actually extensively. I set up a pbxes account with the google voice trunk and use the csipsimple client. For inbound calls I got a free DID from IPKALL (Tried callcentric first which worked, but no caller ID info. IPKALL passed caller ID correctly). I made sure that I was sure iLBC codec on LTE/3G calls.

3. SIP had issues. Worked ok over WIFI but I found it very unreliable even over fast LTE, especially if driving around. I thought about trying the G729 codec but it's $10.75 from the google play store. B

4. csipsimple does not support bluetooth correctly . Big deal breaker as I live to use my cars built in bluetooth integration for hands free calls. I read there might be another SIP client you can buy that supports bluetooth so that could be an option.

5. While T-mobile's LTE network is fast in cities that have it, their rural coverage is poor compared to even Sprint. I live in the Phoenix area, and you can get LTE all over town but as soon as you leave, welcome to 2G/Edge city or no coverage at all depending on where you are. In terms of rural coverage, I'd consider Verizon to be #1, ATT #2, Sprint #3 and TMO at #4

In summary, the bluetooth issue with sip, only 100 minutes, and poor rural coverage kill this deal for me. I think I'm going to try Straight talk next. It's $15 more a month, but you get unlimited minutes meaning all of this playing with VOIP and SIP can go away and it uses AT&T network which should address the rural coverage issue. For me, that's worth $15 more a month.
[General Topics] Dragn4rce:
Happy [MENTION=724989]leyvatron[/MENTION] ?
[General Topics] coorsleftfield:
In real world usage, anything over 5-7mb doesn't matter. As long as you can stream hd video that's about the max bandwidth you will ever use.
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
Yup, pretty much this.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
This is a normal behavior, for the text highlighted in bold

If you initiate a data session immediately after the phone call, you'll be attached to HSPA+ for the remainder of the session as calls run through the HSPA network, at-least until Voice over LTE comes out
[General Topics] RainMotorsports:
I suppose it depends on what your real world usage is. On 5GB of data obviously your not going to be doing anything crazy. But one thing I did when I had unlimited was download full roms over 4G WiMax on a daily basis. I was actually hosting the roms for the developers (stock and cyanogenmod) on a rack with a 1 Gbps uplink. So basically the faster connection end to end you could achieve the better for time. People with 100 Meg cable loved it, none of us really had cell connection to enjoy it on.

Sadly I don't think too many of use find ourselves in large multi tasking data situations where a download is effecting our browsing etc. Probably pretty rare when your not tethering the device etc.
[General Topics] jaybeeunix:
For other people trying to go the VoIP route, I'd recommend starting with Skype. While It isn't free, it's cheap (prepay for a year and it comes to ~$5/mo of unlimited outgoing and incoming calls), it's easier than any of the SIP solutions to setup, Bluetooth in my car works with it, and it uses G.729 when calling POTS numbers.
[General Topics] AndrasLOHF:
I've got a SIM coming in this week and am going to try out this plan for a month to see how good T-Mobile is in my area. I do have one question about app purchases on a prepaid plan. With T-Mobile prepaid is there a Bill to T-Mobile account option for buying apps/books/music from the PlayStore?
[General Topics] russphil:
Yeah. I have the option to link my T-Mobile account to the play store.
[General Topics] Shinyhead:
Micro sim
[General Topics] Ajfink:
Looking like micro.

http://www.androidorigin.com/lg-nexus-5-leak-more-pictures-leaked-confirms-micro-sim-cards/
[General Topics] kerngehirn:
So, i finally got around to buying a starter kit from t mobile. I activated the 30$ plan which is discussed in this thread. I use it now on my nexus 4 and in a few days on my nexus 5.

Now I got a question that my not belong here as this is under the nexus 5 section. But I try it anyways.

When I get a call from Germany. From a cabled phone in Germany. Do I get charged for it? E.g. do my 100 minutes decrease when I get a call.

The reason I'm asking is that in German u never get charged for an incoming call. How about the US?
[General Topics] veeman:
Yes, I believe incoming calls use up minutes.
[General Topics] facetubespam:
In the US, it depends on the carrier & plan. For most 2 year contracts, no. But for this $30 pre paid plan, you will be charged for incoming calls.

- Incoming domestic calls on prepaid are charged the same as outgoing calling. Incoming international are charged the standard per-minute rate.
[General Topics] OctoPI:
Just a heads up, for those of you looking to switch to T-Mo, they are currently offering the SIM activation kits for $0.00 shipped.

I just ordered a Nano and Micro SIM in anticipation of the N5 release so I can ditch VZW.

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/phone-sim-card
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Already mentioned last night page..but congrats leaving VZW!
[General Topics] velishka:
I'm just using T-mo + Vonage. Never had a problem
[General Topics] OctoPI:
Derp. That'll teach me not to go back a page. :silly:
[General Topics] 2.0t03speed:
so now that google is going to start cracking down on 3rd party voice app's are alot of you guys still going to stick with this plan?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/google-hangouts-google-voice-sms/
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Skype, Vonage...now hangouts...why dump a great plan?
[General Topics] youngproguru:
Also, Check out Vitelity. It is less expensive, and works very well with the Built in SIP dialer, or third party. Works great on TMobile.

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Yes it does. I receive LTE speeds in Buffalo NY on my Nexus 4 after the radio tweak, I am sure it will work on the 5 out of the box. In my area the TMobile LTE coverage is better then the HSPA+ coverage. 25 Down, 10 up.

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I think you miss understand. They want to stop third party apps that use Google Voice. We can still use any SIP, or Skype, or Voice Over IP client we would like. Android has a built in SIP client. It is in the dial er under "Internet Calling"

SIP works very well on TMobile. (Even the Prepaid) It is blocked on Verizon.

I dont think Google wants to put a stop to VoIP, They love how disruptive it is. They do want to control Google Voice outbound calling because they pay the bill for those calls that connect to the PSTN.
[General Topics] FiveOhFour:
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[General Topics] bobgren:
simple choice to $30 plan

Can I switch to the $ 30 plan if Im already a $50 simple choice user?
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Yes. Activate a new SIM on this plan. Either cancel old plan later or port number immediately, which cancels old automagically.
[General Topics] shadowx360:
How is everyone getting this without paying tax? I pay sales tax when I refill via the web site
[General Topics] wideasleep1:
Mixed reports...some say they get taxed. Target for example doesn't charge sales tax on their $30 refill...so far I haven't been charged tax on my CC payments.
[General Topics] adrman:
callingmart.com, refillmobi.com are the two sites I use. The former you'll pay full price, but no tax. The latter discounts the T-Mobile price in addition to no tax. Unfortunately, they're currently out of stock on refills. I usually just wait until there is a $100 refill available, then add it to my account and use up the balance.
[General Topics] Lythandra:
Like the above poster I use Callingmart.com. No tax. I generally buy their $60 refills.
[General Topics] timropp:
I buy refills at Meijer (for the midwest people - a big, walmart like store). Once a month or so they have 15% off all general merchandise on the weekends. Gift cards don't qualify, but the prepaid cell cards ring up discounted just fine. So I'll go in and buy a hundred bucks or so worth at a time, getting 15% off. :good:

And thanks for the info earlier about calling tmo to switch to a new sim - that's actually what I was coming here to ask about :) Have a Galaxy nexus on the $30 plan now, have my 5 ordered, and wanted to know if I should just order a sim cutter or have tmo switch it. Already have another regular and a micro sim coming from the freebie tmo deal (micro to use on my N5, and the regular to set my wife up with my old gnex and toss her current crap phone that's on pageplus)
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Not on Prepaid only postpaid
[General Topics] russphil:
I stand corrected
[General Topics] AndrasLOHF:
Thanks, that what I was thinking. No biggie though.
[General Topics] Anderson2:
I just switched to this plan and so far it seems just fine.

Here are some thoughts about the 100 minutes limit:

1. I know I can find out how many minutes I have left by dialing 611, going to my.T-Mobile, etc. But, it would be so much more convenient if there was a widget I could put on the homescreen that would continuously show that data. Is there a way to do this?

2. I may have misheard but I think I heard that Google is discontinuing free voip calls after May 15. If so apps like Talkatone become less useful for free phone calls. What do most users of the $30 plan use for phone calls via wifi?
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
Textplus and Skype, it's not free but it's really cheap.
[General Topics] ericshmerick:
T-Mobile my account app in menu bar or prepaid widget by farhbot.
[General Topics] Anderson2:
Could you clarify what you mean by "T-Mobile my account app in menu bar"?

I'll search for farhbot.
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
You can create a widget with the T-Mobile My Account app or you can have a persistent notification show the same info.
[General Topics] fcisco13:
But in my real world going from Verizon $110 to Tmo $30 is all that matters. Lol

Whatchu talking bout willis!