yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] frost_nz:
I have 2.24.980.2 on my device with no RUU available, however my ROM is still stock with bootloader unlocked and TWRP.

When refering to "stock" is stock rooted ok? Or should I un-root before trying anything?
[One (M7) General] nuthead53:
Worked first time, no issues.

from stock 2.24.401.1 Thanks!
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Seeing "supercid" and S-OFF in the bootloader every time you reboot the phone into bootloader is like a wounder soldier seeing the medic. :D
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Hmmm 9 pourings and need to turn off device wait 30 seconds and try it again, phone is already on tried rebooting several times still giving same error
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Same here....now going to try with different USB port.
[One (M7) General] DannyDog:
my phon is 2.24.401.8

Checking for updates......

Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader

Waiting for fastboot (9/120)

Waiting

[PN0710000-1.54.0000]

Test 2 (ALT): Booting device

Rebooting from fastboot

Waiting for ADB (22/120)

Device detected.....................

[------------------------------------------------------------]

Test 3: Rebooting into bootloader (again)

Waiting for fastboot (10/120)

Waiting for ADB (28/120)

Waiting for device

pouring (1)............................

pouring (2).............................

pouring (3)..............................

pouring (4).............................

pouring (5)............................

pouring (6).............................

pouring (7).............................

pouring (8).............................

Wait 30 seconds, power on device, run rumrunner again.

Press ENTER to exit

any idea?
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Are your AV's turned off? Also, you are using usb 2.0 ports, right?
[One (M7) General] Switcherd:
Rebooted in bootloader a couple of times already... Like looking at butterflies on a sunny summer day :)
[One (M7) General] maarawoe:
Uploading One_2.24.401.8_odexed.zip

Will be placed here once finished:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o50862nu74ewsoq/tvZwdJwBeq

ETA 30 - 40 minutes max...

If empty, uploaded not yet finished...
[One (M7) General] $tefanDroid:
Hmm getting the message:

FATAL: **** it

on version 2.24.161.1. Flashed a Nandroid Backup to get back to stock, as there's no matching ruu out. Could it depend on the twrp recovery?
[One (M7) General] gartner83:
Here you go:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46568550&postcount=599

As I wrote. My phone's firmware was 2.24.401.1 but my Rom was stock odexed 2.24.401.8. The rumrunner for 2.24.401.8 worked anyway.
[One (M7) General] MobAre:
rumrunner_m7_2.24.709.1 works for 2.24.707.3

I have tried it and now i am s-off on 1.54 running 2.24.707.3.

Enjoy everyone and thank [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION]
[One (M7) General] Jonny:
Smug git :p
[One (M7) General] maarawoe:
deleted...
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Yes AV turned off tried 2 different usb 2.0 ports and 2 different usb 3.0 ports.

Noticed that rumrummer only tested the first time running the program, all other tries it goes straight to pouring and skipps the testing part
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
Also can you confirm if you have stock rom and kernel matching your firmware?
[One (M7) General] maarawoe:
Gyus I am screwed...... :(

I am on 2.24.401.1 firmware so I flashed Guru_Reset_M7_2.24.401.1.zip but its getting stuck on booting.....

What is wrong and how to get around?

EDIT: Seem it needed a wipe....
[One (M7) General] konstantin30:
Thanx. 10$ through PayPal. Code 48E23479T72742431
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Yes, USB 2.0 port and yes no AV.

Stock ROM for sure, used the GURU reset tool for 2.24.401.8

Kernel is good also (resetted using the GURU tool also)

No clue....
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Oh you have nooo idea... Heheueheheue :D:D
[One (M7) General] gartner83:
I don't know mate, I can't say what's best for your case but it seems that we don't always need the same firmware and rumrunner number. You can try like I did. I just crossed my fingers and it went through.
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Looks like we have the same problem. Also on 2.24.401.8? Also noticed that the tests only happen the first time.
[One (M7) General] Jonny:
Delete connection.dat to force checking I think (or at least worked for me)
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Yep used 2.24.401.8 from Htc Guru.

Phone is stock with custom recovery and unlocked bootloader
[One (M7) General] qairullah:
Any idea to remove tampered?:rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Than we have exactly the same situation. When you find something, please let me know.
[One (M7) General] zach181:
Well I've tried about 5 times now and each time I sit there until pouring (9) finishes then it says reboot.

2.24.401.8

Rooted Stock

TWRP

Fast boot off

USB debugging On

Win 7 x64

No AV

No FW

HTC drivers on (No software)

ADB Drivers on

Not really sure what, if anything, I've missed or done wrong.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and see if anything comes to light.
[One (M7) General] $tefanDroid:
Always getting the same result

Checking for updates......

Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader

Waiting for fastboot (8/120)

Waiting

[PN0710000-1.54.0000]

Test 2 (ALT): Booting device

Rebooting from fastboot

Waiting for ADB (23/120)

Device detected.....................

[------------------------------------------------------------]

Test 3: Rebooting into bootloader (again)

Waiting for fastboot (8/120)

FATAL: **** it

.......

version xxx.161.1
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
always wipe when you go stock
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
trying now the 2.24.709.1 got fatal
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
This was the rom I used.. Might help? https://mega.co.nz/#!N9siQRSY!EdXwyAHwpEishIbagSQylyfWsvR0gzFgjGUMg4OefnY
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Using Windows 8 and just tried it on my MacBook through VMware and gives the same issue.

Going to reinstall 7 on my Windows machine see if that helps.
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
Looks like it is not able to use fastboot properly , can you try to install the fasboot drivers again
[One (M7) General] djcoolguyno1:
can u instruct us also how u achieved it?
[One (M7) General] Spatz:
thank you for this information. will try this also.
[One (M7) General] :
Same here, only that i used Win8. I'm going to try now on another laptop. If that doesn't work i use linux.
[One (M7) General] baxee:
I have the samme issue, but what do you mean with AV and FW?
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Dont think so. I reinstalled my PC this night, so that could not be the case (W7X64)

---------- Post added at 11:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:31 PM ----------

Antivirus and Firewall
[One (M7) General] gartner83:
Maybe you should try installing stock odexed 2.24.401.8 and use rumrunner 2.24.401.8? Just an idea,your choise.
[One (M7) General] zach181:
I removed the Anti Virus (AV) and turned off the Firewall (FW)
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Now I removed the extracted files and unzipped again. Will now try again...maybe that helps
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
give me link for stock odex 2.24.401.8
[One (M7) General] ShdwFx:
Stock kernel

hboot 1.54

cwm

2.24.401.8 odexed

didnt work.
[One (M7) General] maarawoe:
Tadaaaaaaa S-OFF! :))
[One (M7) General] elvelozpotosino:
those who have achived s-off,,, are you with ATT?
[One (M7) General] baxee:
Srsly guys, noone her who solved their pouring ?

Pouring 1,

Pouring 2

Porung 3

Poruing 4

Pouring 5

Pouring 6 and so on...
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Tried that to, didnt work
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
are u same like me 2.24.707.1 ?
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
No...and I am also running out of ideas...

- removed all files and unzipped again -> same

- Tested another USB port -> same

- Even reinstalled PC (w7X64) -> same
[One (M7) General] maarawoe:
STOCK odexed builds 401.1 and 401.8 here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o50862nu74ewsoq/tvZwdJwBeq
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
**** it, I will give up for today....

---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ----------

Oh one more thing...

I a almost sure it has nothing to do with it, but after some pourings there are more dots than after the others...
[One (M7) General] tutuco:
So just checking before start.

HTC one m7 801n - 2.24.401.1

Is it necessary unlock in HTC DEV?

Root?

Install any type of recovery?

Cheers
[One (M7) General] ShdwFx:
nope, my FW is 2.24.401.9
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
All you Aussies and Kiwis who are on 2.24.980.2 I downloaded rumrunner for 2.24.709.1 and it worked perfectly first go! ;)
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Please read the rumrummer website, all your answers are there.
[One (M7) General] frost_nz:
Great! Thanks heaps!!! :laugh:

Were you unlocked with custom recovery and stock rooted?
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Yes noticed the dots to they are not everytime the same lenght. and also noticed that it stops between pouring 7 and pouring 9 every try its different
[One (M7) General] knudsen81:
fastboot, adb works, after test it's says pouring and my device restarts many times, i have used one_2.24.401.6_odex
[One (M7) General] stephl:
S-OFF Achieved

Guys it worked for me Second time round, appeared to get stuck on pouring 2 first time round, so I use CTRL-C to kill the process, rebooted my computer, tried again success this time. please bear with it and check and double check you have followed all instructions to the letter. see my previous post ...... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46569877&postcount=624
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Ok...MAYBE I found something....

at the end it says:

Wait 30 seconds, power on device, run rumrunner again.

Press ENTER to exitYes

But...the device is still on? Now I will restart phone, restart PC and try again....

I will punch myself if it was that easy....but I dont think so
[One (M7) General] intramorph:
what about those of us who have hboot 1.55? are we out of luck comletely?
[One (M7) General] djcoolguyno1:
I m using viper one Rom based on 2.401.1 which file should I use to obtain s off plz help but on my bootloader it is being displayed as 2.703.xx
[One (M7) General] qairullah:
How to remove tampered?

Help
[One (M7) General] OllieD:
MediaFire Links.

I'm mirroring to Mediafire now for those who prefer/get better speeds.

The files will be here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?k0c85mxhb8zhk

Stock ROM (One_2.24.401.8_odexed.zip) is currently uploading and should appear in about 1 hour.
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
You have to be HTC dev unlocked , can be rooted and any recovery would work
[One (M7) General] stephl:
I'm sorry but I really dont know about HBoot 1.55 .....:confused: I wish you the best of luck.....
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
Yes. Unlocked cwm recovery and stock root
[One (M7) General] Wafflez_SE:
Much thanks to beaups and fuses. Finally S-Off. Tampered gone and supercid ?????

Skickat från min HTC One med Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
tried both 2.24.709.1 and 2.24.401.1 with my 2.24.707.1 getting fatal
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Welcome fellow Nord. :D
[One (M7) General] stephl:
Use this Link to Scotty1223's Thread .....:victory:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2477792
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Pretty sure you forgot to include the link. ;)
[One (M7) General] ShdwFx:
"fatal **** it is network authorization issue. firewall/bad download/virus on your pc/etc may cause"
[One (M7) General] Roeni:
Ok, maybe I asked my question the wrong way.

Let my try it this way (i googled, please correct me if i'm wrong):

- if i want to get root htcdev-unlock is engouth. but htcdev eventually causes some trouble with warranty

- if i want to flash another RUU or Google Edition i need to change CID which is only possible with s-off

- other s-off exploits which don't require htcdev-unlock would enable me to perfectly hide the changes (root, roms, ...) to htc support in case of warranty

- so: the only benefit of this exploit is to change the cid in purpose to flash other RUUs/Google Edition

Don't get me wrong. My biggest respect to beaups for finding the exploit. I just want understand what it can do for me and what it can't do.
[One (M7) General] stephl:
Cheers ...;)
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
disabled antivirus and will see
[One (M7) General] Wafflez_SE:
Here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2477792

Skickat från min HTC One med Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] Jump1ng:
For some reason my phone didn't boot on the stock odexed 2.24.401.08 ROM found this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2353083&highlight=one+2+24+401+1 2.24.401.01 ROM that worked a treat its rooted and have busybox so you can start the rumrunner for 2.24.401.01 straight away.

it worked like a charm and I'm now S-OFF, supercid, upgraded to latest firmware :)
[One (M7) General] Diaze:
Is there any thread on how to use this tool?to get s off?with download links and everything?
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
Check first post
[One (M7) General] madnisman:
Can confirm that rumrunner's s-off 2.24.401.8 works with 2.24.111.3 (T-Mobile DE | CID: T-MOB101).

!! It is very important to disable AV and Firewall !!

During my first attempt I got the error message "FATAL: F**k it" after Test 3 -> disabled AV and Firewall and the second attempt ran flawlessly, gained S-Off after pouring 4. And yes, it works with Windows 8 x64.
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
ITS DONE WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO

diabled antivirus + firewall and after pouring 4 it is done my v 2.24.707.1 s-offed using 2.24.401.1:good:
[One (M7) General] alexilaih0:
haha,

and my red one is s-offed to :D

Had to uninstall Bitdefender ... .. oh man thats some NONO YOU CANT DEACTIVATE ME NONO! bastard of an anti virus....

Wellwell...
[One (M7) General] koax88:
its workinggg!!!im now s-off, firmware 2.24.707.1 running 2.24.401.8 rom!!took 1 run for me, running smoothly!!yeahh!!:D:D
[One (M7) General] m1ket:
Great work to the people who put this together worked great for me will donate later $10

EDIT : Donation made
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
me 2 cheers mate
[One (M7) General] lukode:
Hi

I have 7 lines in pouring 1, and i'm waiting for 7 minutes... Do i close the CMD window or wait for more time? Thx
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
No it generally doesn't take this long , just follow the steps on the website word by word , you shouldn't have any problem.
[One (M7) General] baxee:
I followed his steps, i got a problem...
[One (M7) General] killer18:
any one can make video and explain for us to do the s-off :confused:
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Whatever I try...still fails after pouring 9 and asks me to try again in 30 seconds
[One (M7) General] ngagephone:
Jpin the club mate mines the same and no answers :(
[One (M7) General] z3nz0:
ti voglio bene amico! - :good:

baci from my italian htc s-offed! :highfive:

GPE i'm coming! :cowboy:
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
What is your firmware version and Rom ?

Has to be HTC dev unlocked . And you need to turn off your firewall and antivirus , as the tool connects to a server to make the phone s-off
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Same here, I hate it. Also I did ALL I can to troubleshoot but no succes....
[One (M7) General] :
I'm still trying to, but no succes. Same error.
[One (M7) General] shaw23:
Re-installed stock 2.24.401.1 (wiped my whole phone somehow ) reinstalled TWRP

I am getting to the 2nd adb test but my phone wont reboot in the 2 min time scale and it tells me "ADB connection failed......FIX IT YOU FIX IT FIX IT NOW!!!!

Well i f'n would but i dont know what the f is wrong!! AV/FW disabled usb debugging on fastboot off.....

any ideas???
[One (M7) General] tris85:
Bought my One with a FW 3.22.154, 1.54... Is there any chance in hoping for a S-Off for this firmware? Or is this patch absolutely based on the 1/2 version?
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Did you try also other PC?
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
I guess best option now is email beaups your firmware version and a link to download the ruu or ota for that version
[One (M7) General] :
Jep, but no succes, only thing i can try now is linux.
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
Bad luck...there is no RUU for 2.24.401.8. Also, others with the exact same configuration have no problem.
[One (M7) General] ngagephone:
Mine is setup just how they say and still a no go a have tried everything I can think of.
[One (M7) General] JHat83:
Im try? but no succes
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Reinstalled windows same issue, now I noticed that between every pouring the phone reboots and get the HTC MTP device failed to install.

Think it has to do with this?
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
Try to reinstall adb and fastboot drivers on your computer , also there are reported issues with Windows 8 and vmware so they are not supported
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
I think the HTC drivers are causing the issue , try to reinstall them
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
why do you think that? I am using the ones coming from the toolkit
[One (M7) General] SecUpwN:
Awesome work, thank you so much, [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION]! But let me ask you one question: Is it intended that your website is only reachable through a PROXY? I mean, I'm over here in GERMANY. Do you limit this cool hack only to US citizens? ;)
[One (M7) General] thuglife:
Already did that several times, when I am not running rumrunner than there is no error about the MTP only during the reboots
[One (M7) General] Ciebiada:
Alright, even though my firmware was 2.24.69.1 (cid: ORANGB10). I have flashed stock 2.24.401.1, used appropriate rumrunner and it worked! So happy :D. Donating tomorrow. As I have to setup my paypal account
[One (M7) General] baadnewz:
so solution for the pouring and nothing happens.

1. download stock rom 2.24.401.1 *htc1guru has it

2. flash it

3. relock your bootloader

4. download this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13605628/firmware.zip

5. fastboot oem rebootRUU

6. fastboot flash zip c:\firmware.zip (replace C:\ with where you downloaded the file from step 3)

7. REPEAT step 6

8 unlock your bootloader

9. run rumrunner.

10 profit
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
I actually got that some MTP driver fail and yet it still worked perfectly
[One (M7) General] shaw23:
Using win 7, It works fine on test 1 & 2 then test 2.1 fastboot takes 7 seconds ats the second adb that does nothing, have tried re installing driverss, at a total loss! the last scentence is bootloader unlock failed?
[One (M7) General] Derbeer:
Please someone could link me the zip of the rumrunner 2.24.401.1 for Windows? It gives me 404 if i try to download it, thanks.
[One (M7) General] nordicruler:
Thank you so much, worked first time ?
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
But I have .8, also from HTC1GURU.
[One (M7) General] baadnewz:
and that is your problem rumrunner seems to have issues with .8 i provided you a solution and how to downgrade to .1 take it or leave it
[One (M7) General] knudsen81:
You mean .8 right?
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
ah ok clear, I will try that
[One (M7) General] SecUpwN:
The first person sending me the link to the file "rumrunner_m7_2.24.401.1.tgz" for HTC One Europe Linux will receive a THANKS BUTTON as a reward. Why am I asking? I cannot download it from the original website. Hurry up, geeks! ^^
[One (M7) General] baadnewz:
yes sorry .8 pretty tired right now :)
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
now want to get rid of the red warning in the splash screen , any advice
[One (M7) General] SecUpwN:
Read the f'n forums! Click HERE, lazy butt.
[One (M7) General] tutuco:
404

The page you are looking for is not available.

Please select from the navigation options above.

:(

I'm in 2.24.401.1

Trying to run the 2.24.401.8 without success.

!! Do NOT for any reason taunt,...

Please wait....

..........

ERROR: run rumrunner again and READ
[One (M7) General] Homerstar296:
Awesome

Thanks for the moment I've been waiting for every Minute :laugh::laugh::laugh:

1G232414RJ112322R

For your Masterpiece!!
[One (M7) General] Deltafox79:
For my oh Original HTC__405 fw 2.24.401.8 not work...

Already have:

But the phone is already ON... what I wrong?

Regards
[One (M7) General] Nightf0x_007:
u misunderstand me bro , not the tampered flag the other one is red disclaimer under htc splash screen
[One (M7) General] SecUpwN:
That's why I asked THIS. Are these files not uploaded yet?

Same thing, you just gotta search the forums. Questions like these are pissing me off.
[One (M7) General] AdrianE46:
I have just unlocked my device (still has stock recovery/rom/etc and is unrooted) and ran Rumrunner after following the instructions. Everything worked well (no errors or anything like that) but after "pouring <8>" it said to wait 30 seconds, power up device and run rumrunner again. After doing this it started all over again with the "pouring" 8 times and asked the same. I did this for about 4 times and I checked and I'm still S-on. What am I doing wrong?
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
Did You Temporally switch off you Firewall and Anti-Virus?
[One (M7) General] Diaze:
i ran rumrunner like 5 times and it always says..wait 30 seconds power on device and the run rumrunner again...
[One (M7) General] Bra1nerr0r:
Rumrunner You're welcome :)
[One (M7) General] sardelisp:
hey man try what baadnews says and tell us if it worked..please
[One (M7) General] Diaze:
how many times does rumrunner have to run? it always telling me to re run rumrunner..its like seventh time now..
[One (M7) General] bedlam:
This method working on which HTC Ones?

Only for Sprint or all International models?
[One (M7) General] tutuco:
Yeah man i know.

But i need the Windows Version - rumrunner_m7_2.24.401.1.zip
[One (M7) General] Deltafox79:
Yes but also on win xp I have :

I do no ...

Regards
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
There seems to e a known problem with 2.24.401.8. See two pages back....
[One (M7) General] sardelisp:
i also want someone to give me the link to

rumrunner_m7_2.24.401.1.zip

file please!!
[One (M7) General] mj084:
Anybody an idea for the

FATAL: F*u*c*k it

error?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46569930&postcount=472

Got the same problem on 2.24.401.8

View attachment 2332589
[One (M7) General] Beast Power:
Please tell me what you did, I am tired of pouring .
[One (M7) General] ShdwFx:
just disable Firewall and Anti virus software...
[One (M7) General] manups4e:
To everyone with 2.24.901.1 (TIM_401) , i used rumrunner 2.24.401.1 and it worked :D now i'm s-off :D
[One (M7) General] sardelisp:
give me this rumrunner_m7_2.24.401.1 zip file mate! thats all i need
[One (M7) General] tutuco:
hey me too...
[One (M7) General] Beast Power:
Everybody that got S-Off, can you please specify what windows version you are running
[One (M7) General] knudsen81:
My main version is 401.8 but can I flash 401.1 and try?
[One (M7) General] bedlam:
Hey guys what does mean HTC One Select Models. Which ones is select models?
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
8 Pro 64 bit

>> Sent from the abyss <<
[One (M7) General] sardelisp:
that's what baadnews said..i am in the same situation..
[One (M7) General] SecUpwN:
File deleted? Please re-upload!
[One (M7) General] gartner83:
Let me join you then;).

10€ via PayPal: S-OFF on HBOOT 1.54 M7_UL.
[One (M7) General] skinniezinho:
20usd here, by paypal
[One (M7) General] smartanks:
will put that info in the first post
[One (M7) General] :
Put me in

30$ - m7_ul 1.54 hboot
[One (M7) General] zac206:
I've been waiting for that for ages!

If i had the possibility to send it to someone who had a java card I would have done it, and it would have cost me at least $20. I prefer giving it to someone who will actually make the unlock possible to everybody, so put me in for $20 too!
[One (M7) General] Maichel:
10$ from me also! Also...Dutch cheese, hookers and other Dutch stuff if you want! :)
[One (M7) General] George_Mn:
I would pay 10€ via PayPal.
[One (M7) General] qriozum:
I declare a grant in the amount of $30 for S-Off hboot v1.54 for HTC One International (801N LTE).

best regards

q.
[One (M7) General] robstyleX:
I'm in with $10.
[One (M7) General] meckipower:
$10 from me m7ul with hboot1.54 via PayPal........i'll hope it makes S-Off for us possible ;)
[One (M7) General] akuma24:
Even though I'm getting s-off next week from the phone shop in Sheffield, I'll contribute 10 pounds sterling towards this.
[One (M7) General] montec:
Put me in

20$ - m7_ul 1.54 hboot

:good:
[One (M7) General] jags_the1:
What about hugs and kisses? does that count?