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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DKYang:
Squaretrade allows up to 30 days since buying the phone for you to buy insurance from them. I didn't see it as fraud since they give you that window.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Infos3c:
From Squaretrade's site:

"However, if you buy your warranty on a different day than the item, then the coverage begins 30 days after the warranty purchase.

Regardless of when you buy the warranty, ADH does not cover pre-existing conditions"

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This phone has 3 mics on it to support the background noise cancellation. The phone runs a pretty sophisticated algorithm to determine what sound is coming from your mouth area and what is background:

1) bottom - left of the usb

2) bottom-right corner

3) top - next to the headphone jack

It sounds to me that one of the main/bottom mics is the culprit - this could result in the phone cancelling your voice as background noise unless you shout.

Try turning off the cancellation and see if that helps as a work-around between overnight dry rice packs. (Settings - Call settings - Noise Reduction)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] damedolla2:
Great idea man thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DONNY TRUMP:
Ummmmm?

Why isnt anyone suggesting that he go back to Tmo and just tell them that phone isnt working correctly? they'll swap it out for a new working phone if its within 14 days. If the sticker is red just try to be really nice and act like you never even opened the back cover. Of course this will not work if the phone reeks of JETFUEL!!!! lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] damedolla2:
If the rice doesnt help im going to take it tomorrow and take my chances otherwise ill just kick out the 175. I think It all depends on the rep
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] kabuk1:
I bet it smells lovely now, heh. You could probably find a replacement earpiece speaker & swap it out yourself. I'm a phone tech & samsungs are hands down the easiest phones to repair.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] boodies:
put it in a bag of rice, i heard it works.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] janjannsen99:
It's just kerosene isn't it? Wouldn't that evaporate pretty quickly, hopefully not damaging anything too bad
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Infos3c:
Yes, as was said earlier in the thread, rice does work for fresh water (we'll see about jetfuel). In my household of 8 we have a phone get wet about once every six months.

1) First thing to do is take the cover off and the battery, SIM and sd card out - IMMEDIATELY.

2) Place it in a zip bag of DRY white rice (regular is better than instant - it will absorb more).

3) Put it in a warm place if possible - I like the sun in a window sill. Leave it there overnight.

4) Check it the next day.

5) If there still are problems, take it back apart and seal it back in the bag.

6) If after 3-4 days you still have issues, you have a few options:

A) Pay the deductible and exchange it (if you have insurance).

B) Buy another phone.

C) Various nefarious schemes.

D) Leave it in the rice indefinitely - I just looked in my official zip-bag-o-rice and found my son's old Galaxy S Vibrant I had forgotten about last winter because it wouldn't power on after 3 days in the rice. It works perfectly! Well, at least as perfectly as a tiny little phone can....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Coniac:
Lol I wouldn't wanna keep it near my face I'd be happy that handset don't work.

Stinky!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] damedolla2:
After 36 hours in rice my phone is 100% functional minus the fuel smell in the charging port lol. Thanks everyone for the suggestions and concerns
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Meanee:
At least it was not 100LL AVGAS lol. That smells worse to me.

Also, this is most badass "phone took a swim" story. People drop it in toilet bowl. You dropped it into JET FUEL!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] damedolla2:
Lol I guess I'm special
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Infos3c:
I guess you could always wash it to get rid of the smell. :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] churchey360:
You should have a one year warranty from Samsung you could probably send it away to get it fixed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Infos3c:
In all seriousness, if you are regularly in an environment where something like this could happen, there are several options:

*Hard box cases like pelican.

*Water"proof" cases

*Waterproof skins (usually one time use unless you charge wirelessly, then it could last a week)

*My all-time ghetto favorite, the zip top bag - just like TSA gives out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zmore:
Err, if you buy a device from a carrier, you have to deal with the carrier, afaik. Not supposed to bother Samsung directly.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] votum:
Gas evaporates super quick, its like dropping your phone in rubbing alchohol. Nothing will happen it just needs to dry
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] RiffyDivine:
Just wondering but would it cover any damage if you already flipped the knox flag? Because I am being told since I rooted mine that tmob will not honor the warranty if I need to send it in.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] CZroe:
Because it's fraud.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] BACARDILIMON:
It only really fraud if u get caught.

NOTE 3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] asaqwert:
Makes it easier to get caught when posting about it in forums.....lol

I don't think square trade would do this but I know our auto insurance companies do sometimes.....if you get insurance on a vehicle or up your coverage and shortly after have a claim, they will actually search the net looking for aliases and email address of yours that have commented online looking for talk about fraud or having problems with the vehicle etc.....if you are planning on committing fraud don't talk about it beforehand

And honestly why IS anyone suggesting dishonest ways to deal with it. We are all smart enough to think of lying or buying coverage after the fact, it's not that complicated or secret lol

I just don't get why people assume that they are clever ny suggesting to merely go in and lie....but hey I guess that's just me
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] willreds:
First off, the phone I was using before I got the Note 3 was the original AT&T Galaxy Note, so my expectations for the Note 3 were pretty high. When I used the Google Nav app on the OG Note, I really liked how reliable it was and the many options it had like picking routes without tolls for example (my favorite :good:). The only gripes I had about the OG Note was that occasionally, it would take over a minute or two to get a GPS signal. But once it did, it worked like a champ!

So now we move on to the Note 3.

The first thing I noticed was that there was no dedicated app for Google Navigation. I looked on the Google Play store and I didn't find it there either. So when I checked Google Map app, I saw that that was the only way I could access the navigation feature. Personally, I'm not a fan of Google deciding to merge to two apps together, but I guess in the long run, it'll make sense over time.

Now, another issue I noticed when I first used the navigation feature was the HUGE lack of options navigation is missing. Like I said previously, the OG Note had a lot of features and options that let you tweak how you wanted to set your routes. But the Note 3's navigation 'options' are almost bare-bones! On the settings tab on the lower left hand side, the options you have are things like Google location settings, distance units, and maps history; So I'm like "what the hell?!" So then, when I set my route, I try to see if the options are imbedded in the GPS map screen when you start to use the GPS nav, but.... there's only 4 options (route preview, step-by-step list, mute voice guidance, and satellite view :crying:). What the hell happened to the other options?! Is there some way to get to the other options that I'm not aware of? I really hope so.

Now, as I start to drive to the destination I had set for my route, I notice even MORE issues. First thing I notice to my dismay is that the GPS voice sounds... off (and that's putting it nicely). It just sounds muffled and to me, it seems like the voice doesn't finish the end of the words properly - kind of off putting, IMO. Also, I noticed that when I stopped my vehicle, the little blue triangle that indicates your position on the map tends to move slightly more forward before it completely stops movement. Also, I saw that while at a complete stop, the map starts to go in circles, leading one to believe that the routes changed on the fly (I can see this as a problem if one were to look away from the screen for a bit, and then once you move, the map fixes it's direction again, and that could lead to some confusion while you're trying to momentarily figure out what happened).

So there you have it. That's my experience with the Note 3's newer version of Google Maps. Perhaps It's my phone that's having issues with it's GPS functions. So I'd like to know from others here if they're having similar issues with their navigation.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tomthedancingbug:
thats actually google's doing, you'll find that on all new versions of the os
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] iahk:
Indeed, like tom said above, this is google's updated version of maps that happened months ago. Consider yourself lucky that you never updated it on your older Note. There's been many complaints about them stripping out features that were once in the older version of maps. In my note 2, I at least had an option to uninstall the update after I tried it out but since our Note 3 came with the newer version preinstalled, there is no older version to revert back to.

Once I feel comfortable with our root options, i'll sideload the old apk back in.

The one thing that is Samsung's issue that you mentioned was the voice. For some reason or another, Samsung stripped out Google's default TTS engine. I really have no idea what the reasoning behind this is, but.. there you have it. You're stuck with Samsung's TTS engine or some other third party one in the market.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bluetoothless:
Got spoiled with Note 1 and 2. Exchanged my Note 3 after comparing GPS with Tmo and AT&T showroom displays. Replacement is better but not spot on accurate as 1&2.

New one has sloppy home button tho:(
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] indecentspeech:
I used the GPS 3 times today on the Note 3 and had no issues. I actually like the new Google Maps, it seems like more accurate than before.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alexige:
It has nothing to do with the note. Update your old phones apps and SURPRISEEEE!!! You have the new app. I highly doubt your arrow is spinning if it is restart your phone. Your compass needs to calibrate, move your phone in a figure 8 pattern. You're nitpicking and have no reason to blame the note. HTC Motorola and everyone else has your same "problems". Get over it. You want another route option right after you enter your destination the options are right there. You're not accepting of change. Yea the maps app is new just live with it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] netnerd:
yeah. i like the old google map better, it also ask you what navigation app you want to you. so you can use your favorite navigation app.

i tried the new google map, it' useable, it' not that bad.

if you want to use your favorite navigation app, just install a older version of google map and dont update it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] YellowGTO:
Interesting I have all 3 notes and all the GPS's work fantastic.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] indecentspeech:
Do you use them all at once?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] androidaddict23:
I agree as well the merger of the 2 was horrible but I have yet to find any issue with gps.

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I guess giggle wants everyone to use ways
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] srtpusher:
my note 3 is having an issue also - the arrow to indicate the position you are traveling is pointed about 15 degrees clockwise... i am going to keep checking and hopefully it gets better.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] khaytsus:
First thing, the "two apps" were always the same. There were just two launchers. And if you want the old launcher back, the intent is still there. Just create it. Super simple if you're using Nova, just create shortcut->all->maps->navigator.

And yes, going through the "Maps" application is a lot more taps, it's actually pretty silly. They've made it a little better in the most recent version but it's still 3-4 taps, and I've heard navigating to Contacts is worse too but I haven't done that recently.

Google Now still works I guess, as long as it recognizes the destination :)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
You can down grade your maps to the old version. Go in the App info and uninstall update
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JvKintheUSA:
I use Waze.....which was acquired by Google.

Sent from my Note 3 on AT&T
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] iakeco:
To create the shortcut > shortcut>activities>maps>navigation
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mvblink182:
I am having the same exact issue, as well as I am 30+ ft from my current location. I have also tried numerous calibration softwares that have worked on other phones, with no avail. Time for me to stop by AT&T since its still in the 14 day exchange period.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] tenbender:
Hi Guys,

I had the same problem with my phone as well. Found an upgrade to 7.3 and it seems to have fixed the 30 degree offset problem. I tried Waze buy prefer Google maps. 7.3 is available.

Not sure where I found it but I do have the apk file. Would be glad to send it anyone who wants it.

Update: The 30 degree problem has returned. I have tried several GPS programs and all of them that give heading information eventually show the offset of the heading. Phone will be exchanged today as I can't determine if it is hardware or software. Also, the compass continues to be off as well when it receives GPS info.

Regards,

Tenbender
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Fuzrock:
I really enjoy how my Note 3 navigates. I'm from Omaha and have been using it to get around Kansas City (which I'm really not familiar with) all weekend. The only thing I wish it had is a history so I wouldn't have to keep lookng up my hotel every time I want to return there. Other than that, it's been working flawlessly.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] iahk:
You might have location history turned off. Go into your maps settings and make sure it's on.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mastaofdacat:
I love how im going down a road and the arrow is on the next street running parallel with the same street im on. My fav is im on the freeway and the arrow is on the feeder road and it keeps saying "get on the ramp ." Is it just me enjoying all of this ????
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Limeybastard:
Thanks for showing me how to test this, I just did a 27 mile drive . The graph showed no flat spots on my N900T and showed approx correct miles travelled. Car odo shows 27.4 and this app showed 28.8 miles so not too shabby.

Now, my wife has an N900A ATT Note 3 on T Mobile I will try hers also and report back.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Intub8:
Make sure you guys contact Samsung too. They are just as responsible as at&t.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] aygriffith:
Remember along with any FCC complaints you file about the issue be sure to file a FTC complaint too. Its not just a communications company issue, its a overall consumer protection issue that the FTC should address. I don't expect it does much but if it is even a moderate inconvenience for them then I've done my job.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] vamis:
One day my GPS stopped to work. Was going to deliver phone for repair.

The FIX of issue was very easy. I noticed that screws under the cover are loose. Just tightened them with screwdriver and success!!!!!

Everything works like a charm now. I have never had so storng celluar signal too.

So give a try and check screws. If they are not tight the connection to antennas is loose......
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] j101399j:
If you don't know the official KK update is out. I downloaded the update (took 90 minutes). Tested GPS and so far all of the issues are gone, but we'll see if this stays true after 24/28 hours.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bklm1234:
I also notice after installing the 4.4.2 ota, GPS works properly now. I was driving on the lower deck of the bay bridge and it worked perfectly, where I used to always lose GPS signal and it doesn't automatically reconnect.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] altrikdout21:
Wonder if they read this thread and used the fix that drakey posted...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] NGMK:
Please keep us updated with the GPS issue.

Thanks
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] njschwartz:
I would also like to know if the KK update finally fixes the GPS issue. I have had nothing but issues with it since I got it. Although I have the AT&T branded phone I bought it off contract and was using it on straight talk so AT&T wouldn't even talk to me about it. Such a scam in my opinion. I hope something comes of the FTC complaint. I think we were sold a defective product and AT&T/Samsung should be held accountable for it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kwstump:
I have taken 2x drives with Google maps navigation, where it normally lost connection and it worked perfectly! So looking like they may have done it
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] j101399j:
Made it past the 24 hour mark. GPS still working perfectly. If this keeps working tomorrow morning then I am going to be convinced they finally fixed it
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JVogler:
Was root able to be kept for those who updated, and were rooted.

Note 3 -- Tapatalk
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ddenson:
Not for me. Tried survival mode in supersu - which worked for other ota's - but root is now gone. Waiting patiently for a new root method.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JVogler:
Thanks for the quick reply, I was about to try survival mode.

Note 3 -- Tapatalk
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] aygriffith:
It's definately fixed. I've been driving all around Phoenix for work in my rental car and both Google Maps and Waze work perfectly. Previously I'd be lucky to get 5 miles straight before the GPS lost connection.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] njschwartz:
I think you are right. I can see a noticeable difference in time to lock and have not lost GPS yet. I just hope it's a lasting fix!!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] eazyweazy3:
Lost GPS signal twice today.

I live in San Jose, CA where I like to think signal strength and losing gps shouldn't be an issue.

Had to drop off my cousins friend tonight so figured it'd be a good way to test out the GPS. I was downtown, used freeways 280, 880, and 680. Anyone familiar with the area should know these are not remote areas our out in the boonies. It got lost once on 680 after about 6-7 minutes of driving for about 2 minutes and then came back. Then got lost on Stevens Creek after about 10 minutes of driving for another minute or so and finally came back. The drive home from Stevens Creek to East San Jose did not lose any gps. This was using the Google Maps app, not Waze or any other maps app.

This is after KK update. Luckily I don't use gps as much as others do but it's nice to know that I can expect to lose signal the next time I use it.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigmout:
The problem most people had, and that Kit Kat has fixed (for me, at least), wasn't just losing GPS signal. It was that, when you lost GPS, it didn't automatically reconnect. You had to manually toggle the GPS on and off to get it back. To clarify, are you still having that problem after updating?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
GPS requires unobstructed straight lines between your phone and multiple satellites. Being out in the boonies is actually an advantage, compared to a downtown area where surrounding large buildings can block your signal.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] brd922001:
I have the new KK update and had an issue. I went through an area that had no cell signal and Google Maps crashed. I got a "No Signal" error massage. I know this is late but had issues with Maps giving "Lost Signal" all the time. I tried another app for navigation and found that CoPilot worked without issue. It would work when Google Maps would not. So, when I lost cell this time I pulled over and my phone had GPS signal but no cell signal. This is nothing new the area has always had no service. So I closed Maps and opened CoPilot. Bingo! Working perfect. So, for me I'm done with Google Maps and I think it was the problems for several users.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] DARKCHYLDX101:
Well I've tried just about every rom and fix I could find. Even updated to official kit kat. Still can't get a satellite lock ever since I updated hyper verizon rom thru ota app by accident. Agps works fine. Thinking I have hardware issues.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] kmankin5344:
My gps isn't perfect after the kitkat update but at least it's usable now. I use to lose gps signal while using Google turn by turn, I haven't lost it after updating to kitkat although occasionally it will lag a little. It's a 99% improvement.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] songokussm:
Kk helps but doesn't fix the problem. Now Gps works for about five minutes and drops for about a minute. Fairly useable most of the time.

Whereas before I had nothing, even with drackey's fix.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jfenton57:
Ported over from Sprint Monday and got a new Note 3. All updated came through within an hour.

GPS test shows 15 satellites seen but none "in use". Just used ATT Navigation for a 40 minute drive and it worked flawlessly though.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Dr. Evo:
Did an 80 mile drive on Sunday. I lost GPS signal a couple times for only a couple of seconds, but all-in-all the GPS performed nearly flawlessly. I did a 40 mile trip, today, and the GPS stayed locked the entire time. And this has basically been my experience since updating to Kit Kat, a week ago. Before the update, it seemed like my phone couldn't lock to a steady GPS connection, more than it actually could.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] AlCalavicci:
still sucks!

after the KK update my GPS still is crap compared to my Note 2....

Tracking my driving the gps keeps flying off the road... I keep driving sideways.. it keeps jumping sporadically...

Playing Ingress is extremely hard!

And lock time is the worst, my old note 1 and note 2 destroy this.....

hardware issue?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JVogler:
I know some will think this a little ridiculous, but I solved the problem by having tasker toggle my GPS on/off quickly every minute in the background when a GPS app is running. It's so quick you don't notice and it keeps it from disconnecting and not automatically reconnecting all the time. It's sad I have to do this, but it does work for me.

Note 3 -- Tapatalk
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
If a factory reset doesn't solve the problem, then yes it sounds like a hardware issue.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] cd23murray:
tasker question

I'm really new to tasker, but would you mind exporting what you did or describing the code/steps? Thanks
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JVogler:
Now that I have a Pebble, I use this task instead and just run it from my watch. But you can easily attach this task to a profile of whatever apps you use gps with and then have it repeat how often you want.

Note 3 -- Tapatalk
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] cd23murray:
thanks

Thanks...how would you make it repeat? I really need to read up on tasker (I have some coding experience, but I just haven't had time to play around with it).

thanks again for your help
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] JVogler:
You use the 'wait' command again except choose your desired time instead of 500ms. Then you create a loop by calling the same task again. I think the button you choose is called Task or Tasker, then you pick whatever you named that task whrn you created it. I don't have it open right now, but it's something like that.

Note 3 -- Tapatalk
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] cd23murray:
thanks again

thanks...I'll make some time to play around with it tomorrow.