yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] adrman:
Refillmobi.com is legit and they have excellent customer service, but they haven't had a T-Mobile discount available in a long time. The other site, mobirefill, advertises a 42.95 price, but then wants you to email them to purchase. I tried that with a junk email address and never received a response. Lately, I've just been using callingmart.com. No discount, but I still end up saving NY taxes.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Just past 6gb of usage and boy the throttle is really kicked in now from 0.40mbps to 0.09mbps regardless of what network mode

Another interesting thing is there appears to be a grace period. What I was doing was streaming Netflix and YouTube till I hit that data cap then it slowed down then I switched back to my galaxy s3 for a couple days and shutoff the nexus 5 3 days later speeds were back at 0.40mbps download till I tried to load a YouTube video if I just stream Pandora it remains at 0.40mbps or so. So it does seem the throttle is aimed at the activities you do.
[General Topics] Caelrie:
How can that be when the contract specifically says otherwise? Are you sure you're on a pre-paid plan and not post-paid?
[General Topics] coorsleftfield:
Verizon and T-Mobile also operate LTE on different bands. So unless you have a magic T-Mobile phone that connect to Verizon 's 700 mhz band, I call b. S.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
And the fact Verizon is CDMA for voice 1x and 3g is used however t mobile is GSM which voice runs through hspa and edge
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
There are actually a couple areas where Verizon has GSM coverage from a carrier that they bought out. They left GSM active so that they could make money off of roaming.
[General Topics] ski522:
I'm on the $30 prepaid plan and it works...the T-Mobile rep confirmed as I posted in my original post. I made an assumption I roamed on to Verizon's network, but I'm not sure where to check for that if in fact I was on Verizon's network. But I had an "R" by my signal level status and when I checked the Network Signal it said "Roaming" and I was obviously Roaming because Pandora continued to keep playing.

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Actually after investigating a bit more, it was most likely AT&T's network I roamed onto as indicated by this article.

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/20/...seven-year-3g-roaming-deal-128-markets-of-aws
[General Topics] phositadc:
What widget is that to get signal strength in the status bar?
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
SignalCheck Pro
[General Topics] colorado_al:
Should be easy to check. In settings go to mobile networks. Scan for networks and choose at&t from the list and see if it works. Make sure to switch back to T-Mobile or auto afterwards.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Signalcheck purchase pro if you wish but signalcheck is the app.
[General Topics] abhipati:
Do you have Sim card already ?
[General Topics] Caelrie:
That doesn't work. I do have a little roaming data on my pre-paid plan (a measly 50mb) and doing that won't actually let me connect to AT&T. Says "no service" and can't connect although I know the area has plenty of AT&T coverage.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Please Everyone Sign my Petition to improve Throttling with AT&T MVNO and T-Mobile itself!

https://www.change.org/petitions/t-mobile-and-at-t-improve-throttling-after-passing-data-allotment

WE ONLY NEED 100!
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
On principle, I can't sign that with the horrendous grammar you've used. If you're going to make a petition you want plenty of people to see, at least put some effort into it.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
I'm fine with your opinion there are other less professional petitions on change.org and they got through easily
[General Topics] bob60626:
T-Mobile DOES have voice and sms roaming on this plan. I was in Alaska for two weeks with my S2 and though I never once saw a TMO signal I had pretty good coverage roaming onto AT&T, GCI, and some number name carrier. I also never had data.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Pics or it didn't happen
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
T-Mobile only allows you to roam on AT&T in areas outside of T-Mobile's native coverage. So if you're in an area with a T-Mobile signal.... they aren't going to let you roam.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Ah so in the coverage map indicated "service partner" then its AT&T i see now.

its not like how Sprint and Verizon have roaming agreements to roam on each other even if you got full bars Sprint
[General Topics] Caelrie:
The contract says this. Voice and SMS roaming work. It's data roaming that doesn't, like you saw.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Contract? what contract i thought the 30$ plan was prepaid no contract
[General Topics] Caelrie:
The one you digitally sign every 30 days when you refill.
[General Topics] jsgraphicart:
I am currently a Verizon Galaxy Nexus user. Today after work, I am planning on going to check out T-Mobile and hopefully be making the switch with a new Nexus 5. I have seen this $30/month plan and thought at first that it wouldnt be enough for me. I currently have an unlimited data plan so I dont think much about using a lot of data. Technically, this is an unlimited data plan but is throttled after 5gb right? I may be able to live with that. I just wont go crazy with downloads and stuff as I do now. 100 minutes isnt a lot but I dont talk much at all. With this plan, does it come with WiFi calling? I was told before that T-Mobile offers that. If so, 100 minutes would be perfectly fine for me. I usually make calls at home anyway. And finally, is this plan available in stores as well if I ask them? The site says available through Walmart or T-mobile.com
[General Topics] BinkXDA:
T-Mobile does not support the N5 for Wi-Fi Calling.
[General Topics] jsgraphicart:
Hmm, I was told it did when I was talking with a sales guy about getting the Nexus 5 before. Maybe he didnt know.
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
He didn't know. WiFi calling uses your minutes anyway so you would need to use the Vonage app, GrooveIP, CSipSimple or something else to make calls beyond your 100 minutes.
[General Topics] mattcoz:
So many reasons why has no chance of working, I don't even know where to start...
[General Topics] :
Why are you whining?

YOU'RE ONLY PAYING $30![/B]
[General Topics] trsix:
NO

The plan is very reasonable.

If you can't get by on 5 gigs get another plan. Maybe a part time job also.
[General Topics] :
I like your signature, lol.

Honestly, people like him is why good things don't last.
[General Topics] BirchBarlow:
The plan is not offered in stores. To use this plan, you have to activate the phone yourself online.
[General Topics] Gaffadin:
I'm still surprised that a plan this good is only $30 a month. In these days of price gouging (don't even get me started on cable TV) it's refreshing to see a company not try to screw over its customers like that. Honestly I feel I'd probably be willing to pay ~$40-45 for the $30 plan. T-Mobile will have a customer for life if they continue with how they are going.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
It really is now that i look at it, what ima do next is finish my prepaid service months and then convert to postpaid just for the international roaming and Jump program

i couldn't stand the throttle so i simply asked on T-Mobile to reset my plan early and boom it worked
[General Topics] colorado_al:
All set with a new number from T-Mobile!

Bought the sim and $30 credit here for $27:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191009022851

Activated here:

https://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/ActivateCodes.aspx

And chose the $30 plan

New number and Hello LTE!
[General Topics] colorado_al:
Also according to T-Mobile My Account

I have 100MB of mobile hotspot.

I'm guessing that if I use a switcher and choose android or safari, I'll be able to use more than that.

Also trying this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47203432&postcount=70
[General Topics] Dragn4rce:
Could my number be Ported to this plan? O.o

I have a lot of things associated with my current my current phone #.

Sent from my Ñ£×Ú$ 5
[General Topics] ski522:
6488544

I've since discovered it's not universal. Look on T-mobile's coverage map (http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html), they show what areas have roaming support. If you scroll to the bottom of the map they list the color for "Service Partner". where roaming takes place.

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Most cell phone and home phone numbers can be ported.You can check if your number can be port on T-Mobile's website http://www.t-mobile.com/switch/#information before making the switch.
[General Topics] Anderson2:
Does that mean using Talkatone to make calls or texts will use up minutes?
[General Topics] nerv8765:
I bought my Nexus 5 from Sprint, but I'm changing over to the T-mobile prepaid $30 plan next week. What, exactly, do I need to change in terms of settings on my phone? APN, Profile/PRL update, change sim card (obviously.) Do I need to change what frequencies it uses? Is there anything else?
[General Topics] ski522:
Using this app will not affect your voice minutes with T-Mobile, but will contribute to you're monthly data quota, although VoIP doesn't use a lot of bandwidth.
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
Pop your SIM in and it should automatically select the correct APN for you. There isn't any profile or PRL to update with GSM.
[General Topics] nerv8765:
Wow, thanks, sounds easy then. =)
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
I ported my (formerly) Sprint cell number to this plan, so unless there's some unique circumstance you've got, I'd say yes.
[General Topics] abhipati:
Port your number to Google Voice and never worry . You won't ask that question again ..
[General Topics] paperWastage:
until google starts charging for gvoice, or retires google voice for some reason (see google reader)?
[General Topics] :
Porting your number, do you still use T-Mobile minutes?

On my Nexus 5 I can't make Google Voice calls, but my wife can on her Note 3.

Nexus 5 doesn't have the option that keys you choose to dial from stock phone app or Google Voice, which shows up on the wife's Note 3.
[General Topics] sirxdroid:
Let's hope GV lasts and they are not going to completely shut it down like XMPP come May or restrict it to the point where it's not useful anymore.
[General Topics] vincentallen2:
Woah buddy! You sure you didn't accidentally pop a Sprint sim card into your phone? Lol jk :p
[General Topics] paperWastage:
maybe you didn't set up google voice properly. clear the data from google voice app, and re-do the setup steps

on my nexus 5, when I dial through the stock app, google voice prompts me whether to connect via gvoice or not (you can turn this notification off)

calling through the official google voice app costs minutes (because you are simply using the voice network to connect to google's phone, then connecting to the phone number)

calling via VoIP won't use your minutes (Vonage or another VoIP app that uses google voice as the backend via XMPP, but gvoice is disabling XMPP in june) (you are using the data network to carry data packets to ...)
[General Topics] abhipati:
I can make calls using Google Voice on nexus 5 . Did you select option in Google Voice app ?
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
T-Mobile doesn't support Google Voice for the $30 prepaid plan; I know some people have gotten it working, I think most haven't and I'm unfortunately in the latter category. Conditional Call Forwarding, a key component of having GVoice forward to your mobile number, isn't supported in prepaid plans. Just a heads-up, I was planning on doing the same thing but have been thwarted at every turn.
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
Conditional call forwarding is not necessary. It works just fine without it.
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
A customer service rep pointed me toward an online document stating that the Nexus 5 is excluded from things like Google Voice or even Visual Voicemail; like above, it seems some people have gotten it to work on their N5, but it doesn't seem that there's a widespread ability for all N5's on prepaid plans to do so.

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I can't get even just GVoice voicemail to work on my phone/account, and I've tried a million times. Here's my one frustration with T-Mo: that some people appear to be able to get things like GVoice (Full or Lite) working fine, others are blocked, and there doesn't seem to be a 100% clear-cut yes or no on allowing such services on prepaid accounts.

Were there any hoops you had to jump through to get it to work? I've read the forums on GVoice specific to the N5 and prepaid accounts, followed the instructions, had TMo voicemail turned off, and nada: didn't work, no voicemail/said that my line was unavailable. If someone had a magic wand to get GVoice working for me, I'd give them 3 magic beans in return.....
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
No one has my actual T-Mobile number so I didn't need to have GV voicemail setup for it. People call my GV number and it rings my phone. If I don't answer then it goes to my GV voicemail and I can check it on the app or on my computer. Are you just trying to setup the voicemail portion of it without using a new number from Google or porting in your existing number?
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
I've tried both: Google Voice 'full', where I ported my number over to GV- it wouldn't ring my phone or alert me to voicemails. GV Lite- just trying to use it as voicemail without a call-able number attached to it, no dice. I'm thinking I'm cursed. Some have suggested a full factory reset > reroot/unlock and try again, I might do that this Monday when I've got the day off and time to putz with it, but I don't know why the rooting/unlocking process would have anything to do with the GV service not working.

For what it's worth, my wife's got an N5, same $30/month plan, non-rooted, and she's not able to get GV Full working. It only rings our home phone, not her T-Mo number (she's got GV Full, separate GV number that should, theoretically, forward to any number). I'd love to just have one GV number that everyone knows and run with that, but alas, 'tis not to be at this point in time.....

EDIT: Also, when trying to set up Lite on the GV website, when I come to the 'Activate' option for my T-Mo number under 'Settings' and it spits out the long **004*1313blahblahblah number, there's a line that says that "Note: This feature does not work with T-Mobile prepaid phone plans."

Edit x2: I really appreciate everyone who's tried to help me get this up and running, I've asked questions a million time about GV and the prepaid service, no one's been a jerk about it or done anything other than try and be helpful :)
[General Topics] :
I'm going to reinstall it.

As for Google Voice App costs minutes, are you sure? My wife used Google Voice the other day on her Note 3 and it didn't use any of her minutes.

I only had the first 3 options, I'm going to reinstall it.
[General Topics] markdapimp:
Hah good one
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
The "004" number is what you dial to setup conditional call forwarding. And we don't have conditional call forwarding on prepaid so that's why I says it won't work. I don't think there is any possible way to get that portion of it to work.

I'd clear your app data for the GV app and go through the setup again and make sure you select the right number and everything so that it forwards your calls from your GV number to your T-Mobile number.
[General Topics] :
This is the options I get during Google Voice setup.
[General Topics] Joshmccullough:
Hmmmm.....just tried that, now I get an error message: 'Call Settings Error - Couldn't change the forwarding number. Contact your carrier if this problem persists.'

At least that's something different than what I've gotten before, I'll keep putzing with it, but didn't think about clearing data first to see what happened.

BTW, trying Google Voice Lite for just voicemail before I go whole hog and try GV Full again.

EDIT: Nope, tried again, didn't get the error message but it's not using GV Lite as the voicemail. I think I'll just have to wipe everything, unroot/reroot, start from scratch, see if that fixes it. Maybe try having TMo turn off their voicemail again or something.....thanks for the help anyways :)
[General Topics] abhipati:
I do not know what is not possible using Google Voice on Nexus 5 but this is how I use GV and it works

1) I ported my number from ATT to Google Voice

2) I brought t-mobile prepaid 30$ plan and sim card (New Number)

3) In Google Voice I setup such a way that when someone calls my old number from att (Which is my Google Voice Number) then my tmobile rings (Which is the new number)

4) When I make calls from Nexus 5 , it gives me option to use Google Voice number (i.e receiver phone will show incoming call from Google Voice) or use tmobile number.
[General Topics] Fire Ball:
It's not possible at all to use just the voicemail since that requires call forwarding. You're gonna have to port your number again or get a random GV number. Try it on your wife's phone first since you said she has a GV number.
[General Topics] :
And does this use the 100 minutes?

When I set up Google Voice on the Nexus 5 it doesn't give me the option to call from it.
[General Topics] abhipati:
Yes it uses 100 min .. You need to use VoIP apps if you don't want to use min

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Using Groove IP ( which stops working after march ) u can receive calls when someone calls to ur gv number without using your minuted
[General Topics] :
I'm confused then, wife didn't get charged any minutes on her Note 3.

And if you get charged minutes, what's the point of using Google Voice on the phone?
[General Topics] abhipati:
Use = I can receive calls when someone calls to my old number and I can keep changing carriers without worrying about losing the original number
[General Topics] :
Makes sense.

I think I found the solution to my Google Voice. After googling I seen this image:

So I went to my Google Voice page, and turns out I never activated a voice number, so the number I thought I was seeing was the Activation Number.

Edit: That fixed the issue. I can now make calls from my Google Voice.
[General Topics] abhipati:
Niceee .. Cool
[General Topics] hoodshy:
No go :(

Bummer. Tried Tmo out here in Idaho nowhere. Have fine data coverage around the Boise area including a bit of LTE, but head north 45 minutes and end up on Commnet USA instead of Tmo and have EDGE cellular connection for voice and SMS but no data :( Guess I'll have to stay with ST for now unless someone knows a way to get data when not on Tmo native network?
[General Topics] adrman:
The point is one number that hopefully you don't have to change again. Want to move to a new plan? Just pop a new forwarding number into GV. And then there's voip. Get a did from a voip provider and then have GV ring that number when you're on wifi and use a sip client like Csipsimple to dial out. Then you won't use minutes.
[General Topics] :
Is there any good VoIP's?
[General Topics] adrman:
Voip.ms and Callcentric are a couple to start with.
[General Topics] lchiu7:
SIP Calling over 3G - problem?

I actually posted this in another thread but this seems like the better place to do it.

On my N5 (international version so no LTE) using a TMO SIM on the $30 plan I could not get any VoIP calls to work over 3G apart from GrooveIP.

I tried Vonage, Google Voice Callback to a Callcentric number attached as a SIP account on the phone and Localphone.

All of this worked over WiFi so the setup appears to be correct. Over the cellular network the calls just didn't go through or there was no callback.

Can people report back if they are able to make data calls over the cellular network on this plan?

It worked fine on my GN (same SIM) and my daughter's N4 (different SIM of course but same plan).

Thanks
[General Topics] colorado_al:
I have a Skype account that has a DID # for $30/year and unlimited outbound calling for another $30/year.

So for $5/month I get unlimited calling (inbound and outbound) over IP.

Paired with Google Voice, I can have people call my GV# and it forwards to Skype. My phone rings through the Skype app. If I don;t answer GV takes the call back and takes a message for me and I get it through the Google Voice app.

I tried having Skype take the message for me but their VM notification on Android sucks, so not doing that for now.

Also, I can have skype present my GV# as the caller ID when I call out.

Also, when I know I will be in an area of poor or no data service, I can have GV forward to my T-Mobile cell #.

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Check your APN settings. Most likely need to switch to IPV4 or IPV4/IPV6

Are you using the fast.tmoble.com settings?
[General Topics] :
https://simonics.com/gvgw/

Try this out.
[General Topics] :
Do you use this?
[General Topics] :
Yep. Started trying it out today. Totally free. Service is based on donation support. Basically it's like pbxes.com but easier to setup and you don't get a minute cap how pbxes.com does for free accounts. I am using the settings and integrated into the native Android Dialer. So far so good. Been calling people all day on wifi using my Google Voice over voip and used some 4g data. No minutes were used. Incoming and outgoing works.
[General Topics] :
Just strange I gotta give my password out.
[General Topics] :
That's because it sets up your account for you. If you tried SipDroid before it basically does the same thing when it integrates and sets up your account on pbxes.com.
[General Topics] colorado_al:
Is this going to go away when Google shuts off services like grooveIP in May?
[General Topics] :
No idea. lol. Until then (if it does get blocked) I will continue to use it. So far this is the best solution I found since I don't like using third party dialers and it integrates seamlessly into the stock dialer. Don't quote me, but I believe it uses the Jabber interface to use Google Voice.
[General Topics] andy o:
Do not give out your google password. If you haven't, set up 2 factor authentication, and then from the google account privacy page you can generate passwords for third party apps and services.
[General Topics] :
Exactly what I did. I set up a two-step password for it.
[General Topics] FuMMoD:
Learn something new every day. Thanks
[General Topics] :
Once setup, I can turn the two-step password off?
[General Topics] :
You can, but if you didn't write down that password that you generated for the setup, you won't be able to delete the Sip account if you wanted that you created since Google doesn't give you an option to get that password back.
[General Topics] :
Okay, I don't need this all the time, only when I run out of minutes which is rare. Is it okay to still set this up or will I be dialing via Google Voice all the time?

I just want to be able to use Google a Voice when I'm getting close on running out.
[General Topics] colorado_al:
According to their blog it does use XMPP and "The end date is set for May 15, 2014"

https://simonics.com/blog/
[General Topics] :
Well if you set this up, it will only use your Google Voice number to dial out over an internet connection such as wifi or your T-Mobile data plan. It interfaces with your Google Voice.

Ah, damn lol. Oh well. I will still use it until then. Hopefully Google integrates Google Voice into Hangouts.
[General Topics] colorado_al:
How do you setup the sip in android then? Do you need a 3rd party app?

Edit: found it under the phone app settings
[General Topics] :
You mean with the link I provided and the settings that are given to you once you sign up?
[General Topics] colorado_al:
I was able to enter them into the phone app and I'm able to place calls through it but I'm not receiving calls, even though I checked the "receive calls" box
[General Topics] :
Do you have "Forward calls to Google Talk" selected under settings on voice.google.com?
[General Topics] colorado_al:
That did it. Forward to Google Chat.

Thanks!

Going to test this setup tomorrow and see if the quality is as good as Skype.

If so, I'll use it until May 15