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[Galaxy Note 3 General] OneCanuck:
Ray Maker of DC Rainmaker on Twitter reports ANT+ is coming to the Samsung Galaxy S4 through an October Firmware update and will be supported on all flagship devices going into the future :D

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"We will support ANT+ in the Galaxy S4 in a firmware update coming in October" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)

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"We do plan to support ANT+ on all of our flagship smartphone devices in the future" - Samsung (at the ANT+ Symposium)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wm2001wm2001:
Hell, got full set of ANT+ device and bougut a BTLE HR for note3... complete fail
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
And the saddest part for you wm2001 is that BTLE support is still veru buggy (no reconnect after disconnect) and most of the sports app dont yet support it. I think so far only runtastic and ipbike.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
BTW I say again, the fail is on Samsungs part. I still can't get my head around it how such an omission can happen with all the marketing personal that they have.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wm2001wm2001:
Still on its way to deliver to me. My questions is, is the ANT support any better than BTLE?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OneCanuck:
Since the ANT Radio Service is unified across all phones with ANT including the Sony Xperia line I'd say there's a decent number of good reviews on it so far, but let's see what the Note 3 people say for awhile.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] willcor:
thanks, but you misread my post !!

( so i guess you have got it mixed up...!! not me..!!)

.That is what i was implying... polar, is not compatible( either ant+ or otherwise) and now i must fork out 100 dollars for compatible strap (ant+.....whatever make and monitor ! to work with S health app )

anyway, thank you for your reply.!!

Sorry if you got confused, with my cryptic post,...!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rchapoteau:
Anyone try this with the n3 yet? If so how does it work? I'm thinking about getting a watch with a heart rate monitor and maybe some other features.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] airyras:
I have the exynos note 3 and I have ant+ got an update. have no clue what it does
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wm2001wm2001:
Attempted to pair my note 3 with both Suunto ANT Heartrate Monitor and Garmin GSC-10 bike cadence/speed sensor. Both no luck, dunno why.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ArborRes:
I also noticed a software update on this app on my Note 3 and wondered about it.

According to the "This is ANT" site, "ANT+ is the wireless technology that allows your monitoring devices to talk to each other."

When Samsung can demonstrate actual benefits of this technology implementation with several major 3rd party hardware products, they would have a difficult time explaining what it even is to most users.

I like how Samsung is continuously expanding the utilization of its smartphone platforms to work with other technologies ahead of many of its competition. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Try this app and see if it helps with connection: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iforpowell.android.ipantman

An then this to test is (best bike app around, ignore the not so stellar UI): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iforpowell.android.ipbike
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
My bad then, sorry.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] prbdave:
Hi guys,

I'm the user that alerted oalex to this on the ipbike forum.

I've been using ANT+ for cycling for 3 years since I got my first Garmin Edge 500. I have Garmin ANT+ speed/cadence sensors on three bikes, a Garmin heart rate monitor and Garmin footpod. The all pair with my Note 3. I also have a Sony Xperia Z1 and Z Ultra - these both have ANT+ too. I'm now wondering if it's part of the Snapdragon 800 chipset??

Anyway, I use iPBike app for logging and display. It is the most comprehensive software out there. You first load the IPsensorman to search and add the sensor. The software is a bit complicated to setup but once you have it working it is brilliant. I did a 30km ride yesterday and all data ran perfectly, IPBike even read temperature off the temp sensor inside the phone. All the data was accurate compered to my Garmin Edge 810.

I'm out for a 100km ride tomorrow and will report back on battery life and functionality.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Thanks again, for the post. I have updated the tread to reflect the findings of the day. Also added a base background on ANT as some folks were wondering what it for. Only noticed that it was updating on their device.

3 high-end smart-phones and a Garmin 810? Ultra is water resistant yes? So no need for cover, perfect for biking, but why the Z1?. If you have too much money, consider sponsoring my dreams of a Note 3, lol ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rofoxy58:
SUUNTO Ambit

Hi

My SUUNTO HR belt refuse to pair with my NOTE 3. I have all ant+ apps installed.

Any help?

thx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] prbdave:
Sadly the Suunto heart rate strap is not ANT+ compliant.

I remember reading it here...

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2012/04/suunto-ambit-in-depth-review.html

"Next is the heart rate strap. This wirelessly transmits data to the Ambit using Suunto’s variant of ANT. Note that this is not compatible with ANT+."
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueChris:
My polar belt is connecting fine without ant off course but I don't care because only samsung s-health app is not seeing it, all my other apps work OK like runtastic, endmondo etc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Don't take this the wrong way, but what does this have to do with anything in this tread? I don't really get it. Please explain.

If its a general suggestion for HRM belt, then Polar and every other Bluetooth (Non-LE version) belt has been connecting to every Android (and even Windows and Apple) device in the past years. Its not news.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radlink14:
Is there anyone in this forum that even works out? lolz :p;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ARTAQaf:
hope i dont get slammed for this, but can anyone dumb it down for me and explain in layman's terms why, how or where i would use ANT+?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueChris:
Ok sorry m8 just I wanted to say that this ant thing is not so biggy because you can do your job with simpler accessories. Either way you are right I am off topic.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Even there you are wrong my friend. HRM belt with regular bluetooth runs out of battery very quickly (not even comparable to ANT). BTLE is still very buggy on android.

Heart Rate is not the only thing that is worth measuring in fitness. Yes we got by even when there were no smart-phone in the world, but technology advances. I am not going to list them again if you are truly interested, then you can read up on it yourself.

You are also wrong about "simpler accessories" what exactly is simpler about your belt? You not understanding the technology doesn't make it simpler or more complex, just shows you level of awareness in the mater. As a matter of fact Basic Bluetooth is more complex than ANT.

An finally it IS a 'biggy', hence Bluetooth tech brought about LE or Smart, so they can catch up and dont miss out on this market/segment.

I can understand that you personally might not be excited by all this. But are making it sound as if that is a general consensus.

Maybe you dont ride a bike, maybe you are not a racing athlete, but you cant denial that there are people out there that are, hence companies like Gamin and Polar exist and charge and actually sell products (monitors/loggers) that are incredibly expensive.

I rest my case.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
I am sorry, did you read the first post about what ANT is and used for? Did you look at the apps I recommended, there are a lot of pictures (screen shots) of those apps on playstore to help you understand.

I was really trying to be very clear, maybe some else can help with that.

I am glad to go into it deeper. Could you please specify which part is unclear at the moment?

P.S: Let me get this out of the was, if you dont do any sort of sport or fitness activity (with to most basic being running) then, you dont even NEED to understand. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
You might be right Bro. I didn't count on the fact that most here are probably completely 'white skinned' (no sun tan from always being indoors) and sit in front of a computer all day installing the latest available cooked rom.

:) :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueChris:
Thx m8 I will watch this closely because I do exercise with bicycle mainly and even my polar heart belt lasts 6 hours at least I will need something for sure that will last longer.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
I can tell you for a fact the ANT belt will last you manymany times more, something like 6 months, depending on usage. See this link, amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Wahoo-Fitness-Heart-Strap-iPhone/dp/B0042WO62U

See topmost reviewer, over 100hours on original battery. Also these tend to be cheaper that BT ones.

On a side not, if you really go into biking (asper training or else why woud you have a HRM), then trust me a cadence and speed sensor will give you more info in general and also make the one you have got even more accurate. For example bike speed sensor is way more precise that the GPS one (just trust me here). Also when you dont pedal you are not burning energy. Without cadence meter there is not way for you phone to know that. All it tried to compute from is if you are going down a slope.

I hope you get the general idea.

The only thing I would in-fact reserve for real athlete that eventually go for races is the power meter. They are very expensive and not really of use for most.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueChris:
I don't do it professional just to be a bit fit, I passed 42 years and I bike 1 hour to go to work, 1 hour back and some nights I do longer distances but all trecking , some times a bit mountain but not so often and mainly I use the racing bike pro app. If you can you give me a link for a not so expensive device I will be thankfull?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amdathlonuk:
Hmmmmmmmmmm......

This is interesting, I was considering a BT HR monitor and Bike computer.

Can anyone tell me the working distance of Ant+? I've googled but not found anything out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
I am not exactly sure, but it is indeed more popular in the biking community than BT, so it is adequate for anything in that department.

I guess it should be at least around 5m (cant be anything less). You will never even come close to distance 1.5m distance with anything installed on your bike (when logging/riding on it), even if you are the tallest person on the planet and have a big frame. Remember the HRM is on your chest and the bike computer is on the steering wheel, or in your backpack or pocket. The speed and cadence are just behind the pedal.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amdathlonuk:
Yeah, I was just thinking for when I come off..... ;)

I'd like to know the speed and G my phone was going through..... (my Note 2 came off at 40+mph....)

Thanks for the answer :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] prbdave:
One word of warning. Sony phone have a hole for a wrist strap. I always use this when mounting my phone on the bars, I use a Quadlock glue to the back of the phone. Samsung have no holes for attaching a strap. I suggest you get a case that has one. Don't want to lose that phone.

Just heading out for a 100km ride today but I'm taking the Xperia Z Ultra because it looks like rain. It's waterproof you know ;P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rchapoteau:
so has anyone gotten anything to work with ANT+ yet?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Luycks:
I'm a bit overwhelmed with all this information, but hey I think I should be very happy my device supports ANT+!

I like running outside and for that purpose I use a polar bluetooth hr-sensor (and phone's GPS). In the Netherlands the autumn and winter are a problem, you don't know if it's the right weather to workout outside.

So I subscribed for half a year to the local fitness studio and do my cardio and weigtlifting there.

They have modern cardio equipment (with lcd monitors that show statistics, but can actually also be used to watch tv). Based on my fitness level they created a personal 'key' that I put in the machine, and automatically a personalized training program is executed (of course I have to make the moves and burn the calories by myself) ;).

So I was thinking: suppose those machines supported ANT+ (have ANT+ transmitters), I could continue tracking my statistics when inside the fitness studio! (I use endomondo tracker). That would be awesome! Going to ask the studio tomorrow if their devices support this protocol! Is anybody already working this way?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueChris:
Yeah m8 road bike pro is the name you are right. A million thx for the info I will read and decide what to buy but I really like the interface of runtastic, anyway I will test the other app also. Thx again.

P. S. I don't dare to quit smoke atm but since my son born 6 months now the thing to go outside to smoke is killing my nerves so I'm thinking of it, grats you did it though.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Maverick777:
Wow. This is awesome and totally unexpected. I just paired my Note 3 with a Garmin Ant+ hrm successfully!

Thanks for posting this.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Are you seriusly asking this question? Man did you read any thing other than the title. So many people here have answered that question, its not like its hidden . All you needed to do was just read the posts. YES, everyone has successfully done so (except the guy with the "not-real-ant" sounto stuff").
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ARTAQaf:
nailed it!

thanx for dumbing it down in a few short words for me :silly: :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] frele:
Yes this was a nice suprise. I just sent my Garmin egde 500 to service prior to getting note. I use Garmin Fit app when i can't use my edge 500 or i left biking whitout it because i forgot it upstairs. I noticed that note was upgrading ANT service on first boot and when i tested my heart rate sensor with it, it worked.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Galaxy Note 3 Active

This would completely make my day: http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s-5...-given-a-go-as-waterproofing-sticks-07300467/

Then I can just a use a quad mount and wont need extra water proofing. I hope it true and soon. Also wouldn't mind extra weight with increased battery capacity.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OneCanuck:
Unfortunately it looks like it might not come unless there's an Active S5 :(

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/samsung-mobile-devices.html
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Samzebian:
I read this thread and was confused, thinking ant was apt-x.

That being said, I recently purchased this apt-x BT receiver for use in my car, anyone know if the note 3 outputs using BT apt-x?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dipole:
I have a Garmin 610 running watch with a HR strap and shoe dongle. How can I use this ANT+ with that setup? Does it do anything for me? Also, does this mean I can import my garmin 610 running watch data into s-health?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PlayStation:
This is PURE GENIUS! Whaaoh I am glad I stumbled upon this thread. I have really been agonizing on which device to purchase between Note 3 and the Sony Xperia Z Ultra to upgrade my now old and tired original Note. I deliberately skipped Note 2. ANT+ support is one of the features that is to inform my decision. I like jogging outdoors with a Garmin HRM strapped to my chest to ensure that I am running within my optimum heart rate range. When its raining outside I work out in the gym with a Garmin footpod. Both are ANT+ supported. I am currently using the Sony Xperia Activ phone which supports ANT+.

The problem is the Xperia Activ is a 2011 phone which is really struggling especially with internal storage after I updated it to JB. Save for a handful apps its practically useless as a phone. This is not my main phone but even as a second phone its very frustrating. Thus I have been looking to replace it. I looked at Samsung S4 Ativ but it does not support (but looking at the precedent posts it looks it may be able to support Ant after a software update). Anyhow as of now only 2 phones interest me - Xperia Z Ultra and Note 3. So the Xperia is water and dust proof but the thing is mammoth. Surely I cant jog with that thing in the pocket as its over 220g. Plus the camera has no flash. Note 3 is not waterproof but its much smaller and ligher phone with a slightly less screen size - 6.4 versus 5.7.

I think am now almost convinced that I will pick Note 3 over the Ultra. Will be using the Note 3 when the weather is good but will keep the Xperia Activ to use when weather is bad as its also water proof. Could you guys please confirm that you are absolutely sure that the Exynos Note 3 supports ANT+. I guess I could also go to the shop with any of the Garmin gear to try myself but some stockists can get mean with app testing.... Unfortunately I cant find the Snapdragon in my country as we do not have any networks that support LTE.

Thank you for discovering this gem hidden inside the Note 3. :highfive:

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Well having a phone with the ANT+ simply means that you dont have to use the watch. This can be for various reasons including the fact that with a phone you can select a wide range of apps to use with the footpod. You use get to use the big screen of the phone without the necessity of having to connect your watch to upload the data to a a pc. Not sure about S-health compatibility but there are very many sports apps in the store. Personally I use MapMyFitness app with both the HRM and the footpod.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
I tmeans you can sell your Gamin :) The note III will do much more for you. I am not sure what particular HR strap you have, but if its ANT+/BT/BTLE then it will work with you Note3.

Forget S-Health there is a wealth of apps out there that do much and much better.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FabioMC:
Hi There. Is it possible to connect simultaneously both an HR strap and a footpod to Note III ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Yes it is. Both Bluetooth and ANT are able to handle multiple device connections simultaneously.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dipole:
What are some good running ANT+ apps? I mainly run on the treadmill with a ANT+ footpod and HR monitor.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
I only bike so I wouldn't know. But if you just take your time and go trough the review on play store you will find them. The best way is to try them all out.

Most popular are Endmondo, Strava and Runtastic. If I remember right then at least 2 out of those have ANT+ support (all of them have running and indoor activity option). Its up to you to read the description to find out. There are others too to check out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] power_tennis:
APT-X.....Yes

:D

Cavcalade	Old 8th October 2013, 06:23 AM (Last edited by Cavcalade; 15th October 2013 at 07:11 PM.) #65

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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

i think aptx on snap 800 is not there, as i did not see it list as a specification anywhere, or on the box. So sorry guys no aptx for note 3 snap 800.

What a lame thing samsung to not add aptx, this sucks bug time

The S4 doesn't have the logo on the box either, but it was confirmed long before release. Also CSR has it listed on the website. US and German Samsung Support confirmed it after release.

I will buy it in 3-4 weeks and test it myself with my aptX headphones, then I can tell for sure.

UPDATE October 16th: AptX confirmed. I tried it with my bluetooth headphones (Harman Kardon BT). It connects via aptX(LED flashing four times)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OneCanuck:
The only caveat is that BTLE cannot handle multiple receivers to the same sensor, ie watch and phone to heart rate strap.

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/09/curiositysurvey-different-cycling.html

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Sportstracklive just added ANT+ support (and has a decently attractive UI), it works with the USB sticks as well.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
That is really very rear and actually redundant. A Raimaker says, its only important for maybe triatlon people. Why would your basic biker or runner want to have both a wrist watch displaying his HR as well as a smart phone simultaneously.

His question was very specific too. He asked if multiple sensors could be connected to same device. To which the answer is YES.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OneCanuck:
I don't feel that was redundant, it doesn't hurt to provide an additional piece of information (plus Sportstracklive is a pretty decent app lol) and I was certainly not refuting the yes, I do apologize if it felt intrusive on your answer though.

Also in Ray Maker's 2013 Symposium Presentation he did mention the results of the survey where he was surprised that it mattered to 30% of the readership, so his initial assumption that it was only important for triathlon people was only an intuition and not hard data. It's admittedly a bit of a corner case, but my 2 cents would be that the common use case would be for runners to use the watch (or Recon Jet glasses, or Bike Computer, etc) as their main display, while using the phone to save location/HR data together on the fly kept safely in the runners pocket.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Infy_AsiX:
since there's some discussion here about Ipbike and that this is XDA so modding is appreciated. Here's some screenshots of my setup for biking. It should hopefully give some inspiration and ideas about further possibilities. Details and descriptions in this album, please read for related information https://plus.google.com/photos/1027...s/5941239200241481073?authkey=CO_65I_m8pazyQE

Note the distance and climb rate colour match incline but should be purple to differentiate, just didn't realise I set it wrong. The plot can't be fully understood because of that. I should probably remove either Kcal or kJ... I haven't tested recording video while riding yet and i'm waiting on an external charger before I can take shots of the hardware setup. I can share when possible if anyone's interested?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oalex:
Very good you posted this. I for one am very interested in this stuff. Its so funny that (from the pictures) you are after almost the same thing (UI) that I have previously requested from Ifor. See mail correspondence below (start from down to up):

Anyway its such a pity. If I was a rich man, I would have contracted him for a few months to rewrite the whole thing in a newer version code, that wouldn't hamper the easy tweaking of the UI.

Anyway I have only briefly gone your setup. I will definitely have question in the future. In the mean time, I just have some comments:

You dont need tasker to lock screen rotation or disable screen timeout. IP already does that for you.

Also try IVONA instead of SVOX for your TTS. Its new (updated continuously), free (at the moment) and way better sounding that SVOX.