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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Misterjunky:
re: unrooting

First step would be to open the app drawer and find "supersu", then

open it and click the menu key on the phone and there you will see

an option that says something like: "Permanent Unroot", or "Unroot"

select that option and you will no longer be rooted.

Good luck!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Knox

Ok can anyone answer me if it have some files in firmware/image/tima_pxxx.mdt and etc ?

there should be quiet many of them

also if you have data.container_1 .container_2 and 3

there is allot of Encrypted keys (specially for knox)

same goes in data/container/.sdcontainer_1 2 3

also if drm folder is there

also if you have a KEqvTa... folder with random numbers/alphabetical

if not well then it maybe the problem
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Firstly used sgs4 flasher to flash stock kernel and recovery. 2) Then used triangle away to reset flash counter. This will ensured you will be able to return to pure stock and receive ota update. 3) run superSU > setting to click on fully unroot. Reboot phone. Voila.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jasonpasa:
Ok I will try this. By the way where can I get the stock kernel and original recovery?

---------- Post added at 07:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 AM ----------

By the way which file should I flash first? Is it the stock kernel or stock recovery?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meister_Panse:
worked for me!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] respider:
is it possible to have 4.3 on old bootloader phone and have it fully functional?

sometimes I read it will break the sound and sometimes I read it will break wifi :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
I have stock 4.3 (I didn't know that knox is comming with update:/). My Knox flag is 0x0 at the moment. My question is: Can I install any rom I want? Can I fully root my phone? Or this knox thing in bootloader will stop me? I have read that some people had problems with root or something. I would really like to install Google Edition ROM. Is this possible? And if it is, which rom should I flash? And last question: is there any way to get Google Edition ROM and have OTA updates from Google? My Galaxy S4 is I9505 not I9505G :/
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
You can still root/install custom recovery.....BUT you WILL VOID YOUR KNOX WARRANTY in doing so.......If this does not worry you then flash away:silly:;):)

The ROM you decide to flash (if you choose to) is your decision:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
Ok but what are the restrictions?

If I have knox bootloader, then I probably shouldn't flash any older? Right?

Are there any scenarios where knox flag is not triggered?

Which Google Edidion ROM should I choose?

Should I be careful about something or I can act like knox is not there (if I don't care about knox warranty)?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
If you want to install a custom ROM then a custom recovery is needed! Flashing this by itself WILL trip the KNOX flag (currently irreversible). As will rooting. There is nothing you can do to act like it is not there........

As I said previously....If you are not worried about the KNOX warranty then flash recovery and then flash a custom ROM..

I cannot comment on which ROM (GE or otherwise) to flash....This has to be your decision when you have decided what you want to do!!! And researched GE ROMs TW ROMs etc........Find one that suits your needs /expectations!

The ONLY scenario (AFAIK) in which the KNOX flag will not be tripped is to leave your phone as it is now! 0x0

:angel:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bAk3ry:
Current Options

I recently upgraded my phone to 4.3. It seemed like the right thing to do at that time. Now since this was an official update, I had it done via Kies. And now I have Knox.

My Knox flag is still at 0. At this point, I want to know what can I do from here.

Will I have to always wait for an official Kies update, to keep my Knox flag intact?

Can I install a different kernel, without chainging the flag?

Will my KNOX flag be set if I install another OS with a KNOX feature, maybe a custom rom?

Does the KNOX flag really matter?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joku1981:
1. Yes (coz we dont have solution atm for back Knox 0x1 to Knox 0x0)

2. No

3. If u install a custom ROM, read the description about for see if u will still having Knox 0x0 when u install it

4. Samsung SAT is lil confused about it atm. Some SAT know what they have to do, others no. U void ur warranty in some countries, in others no. If u still having Knox 0x0, better dont mod so much ur phone if u dont know sure what u are doing :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lennyz1988:
Please don't say that it will void its warranty. That is not true. You will not void your warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jasonpasa:
This worked. I have to factory reset my afterwards though. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Eeep wrong. That is different in other countries. Etc us its void ;) EU it shouldn't be but that seems to apply from country to country

[True Friendship doesn't exist]
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
My appologies if this was not worded for all to understand......

Your KNOX WARRANTY VOID: in download mode will read 0x1 and not 0x0..........

0x1 = Cannot use KNOX features anymore!

:angel:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhna:
I have a quick question: i have Galaxy S4 GT-I9500 and recently upgraded to Android 4.3 's MJ8 Official Firmware. So if i flash the SAME MJ8 firmware through Odin 3.09, obtaibed from sammobile.com , then will it set the KNOX to 0x1? I am asking this because stupid KIES wont let me upgrade through official means :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bAk3ry:
I am not sure, why you'd want to upgrade if you are already in 4.3 firmware. But anyhow, since there was no Knox flag triggered when 4.2.2 was flashed with a custom ROM, it shouldn't be a problem.

But if you are in 4.3, you probably have the KNOX bootloader, and trying to ODIN that to another ROM could possibly set the flag to go off !!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhna:
i wanna reflash the firmware that i am already on because KIES wont let me do it and i dont wanna flash any unoffical/custom rom. simple
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
What was your knox flag? If 0x1 then no more kies/ ota update for you. If knox=0x0, kies may check your region code. Like me in Asia. If I flashed any European rom. I will not received Kies/ota update.

ROM: I9505XXUEMJ9 knox_0x1

CSC: I9505OLBEMJ5 (STH)

Modem: I9505XXUEMJ5

Stock kernel/recovery
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhna:
Bro, i updated through OTA when updated came for my PAK region. But having some difficulty, i want to flash the same FW through Odin 3.09, Will it set KNOX to 0x1?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikael R:
I have the 4.2.2 update (the 4.3 is pending and has been for more than a week) the thing is, I have this Knox flag thingy 0x0, do I still have Knox or does it come with the 4.3 update?

/Mikael
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phum:
XXUEMJ7

Hi,

My first post and trying to figure out how to do my first ever root. I have I9505 with MJ7 and I've read the instructions multiple times (>10) from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250824. Sadly, I still lack the confidence to start the process. Here are some questions I would like to get an answer to:

1. The method is advertised as knox 0x0, but the newer pre-rooted roms mention Pre-Rooted STOCK FW - Odex - KNOX 0x1. Should the 0x1 be interpreted as a warning for the bootloader?

2. Given my current non-rooted FW, does it matter which of the knox-enabled pre-rooted roms I choose, if I only want root, knox 0x0 and status official? Preferably not slim too.

BR & Thx in advance,

Phum
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qazmed:
Cud i use vroot to root without tripping knox?? Am on i9505

Also i heard that it trips the flash counter so no ota

So cud i flash upcoming updates through odin or even use triangle away?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legola:
Do jb 4.2.2 fw has the knox bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanis64:
The latest JB 4.2.2 does have a KNOX Bootloader and SELinux-Status forced. The MH5 (Germany DBT)is an example for such a ROM.

Latest none KNOX ROM for my country (Germany DBT) was the MGA.

Regards

Send from the outback with my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fisa2001:
Knox related to signal issues?

Hey, great thread btw.

I was wondering if your phone is knox 0x1 could it be the reason for constant signal drops? I've updated to a 4.3 custom rom (echo rom) and the signal constantly drops. I've flashed many modems including MJ modems and the one I've used before I've upgraded to 4.3, they all work fine at home, but as soon as I'm out, in a crowded space, train etc there's either no signal or the signal shows 1 bar. Very annoying :l Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanis64:
No, my KWV Flag is also triggered to 0x1 and I had absolutely NO Signal drops.

Send from the outback with my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UXELLR:
Have any heard of cases in Norway where the warranty is voided cause of Knox? I wluld think we follow EU law.

It's fascinating how companies is allowed to deny warranty in cases where there are obvious a hardware fail. How could a simple security flag give the conclusion that that is the rason for a problem the user encounter. What is the validity of that. I would think it took a long time to get watermark stickers accepted by law, as a 100% sign that this had not been used under normal conditions. So i guess every country accept this.

Soon there is going to be a sensor that record if you look at the phone funny and deny your warranty.

Ah..starting to hate Samsung and my phone ; with s-lag (and don't try to fix it yourself!), random reebots, knox,*and plans to use “authentication chips” in their peripherals. Apple cr@p wannabees!

Just bought myself a new T.V. Its not a Samsung, by the way.

Sent from my Samsung 4.2, rooted and for the time being, Knox free.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
Nope it won't cause any physical damage as long as u don't overclock
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svd1977:
Pls do give some response to the previous post.thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asbanoglou:
Samsung Stock Kernel & Stock Recovery

A rly fast question here :) If i want to flash stock kernel i do it with odin or with custom recovery?The same question for stock recovery plus where can i download it :) thnx in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyian:
New or Old Bootloader

Hi everyone,i would like to ask if my boot loader which is (AP: i9505ZHUDMH6 CSC: i9505ZZHDMH6 ) is a new one or an old one , thank you all in advance
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

I would imagine that is the new one .

Check in Download Mode: Hold Volume down, home, and power until you see the green dude.

Does it say knox?

If so,new

If not ,old.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyian:
Malybru thanks for you fast reply , so it says

ODIN MODE

PRODUCT NAME: I9505

CURRENT BINARY: Custom

SYSTEM STATUS: Custom

CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30

WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

No Knox , i assume that is Old :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Correct.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LuigiBull23:
Correct. No Knox.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dattt3:
help

how to use know in rom cook?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ide70:
Hi there, I want to share an experiance with you about my warranty

I did send my knox void 0.1 to service and I told them that my fhone freeze and reboot By it self so they did repaire the battary and reinstalled the android 4.3 with out any peoblem.

then I got my fhone back I was very excited to look if I still have knox 0.1 and YES it was still knox 1 :(

I beleive when they reinstall the android 4.3 they dont reset knox....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idanrm:
Maybe a way to reset KNOX

Hi,

I've read a lot about KNOX recently, and I think I've got an idea about how to reset it.

First of all I am not a developer and maybe this idea was posted before and I missed it.

So, I understood that the cpu chipset has a couple of registers which are eFuse for the use of the manufacturer (Samsung).

If the flag is triggered then one eFuse is burned or something like that and the bootloader looks at that certain eFuse register and sees that it is burned and says 0x1.

But maybe there's a way to change the bootloader to be configured to look at

another

eFuse register on the chipset and then it will see that it isn't burned and will say 0x0.

If this is possible, then a phone will be limited to X times that the KNOX can be reset. 'X' is the number of eFuse registers the phone's chipset has.

I know it is complicated and maybe not possible, and again - maybe this idea was raised somewhere and I didn't see it.

I would like to hear about whether it is possible or not.

Thank you and have a good day! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lorenzo122:
Recovery:D

Hi guys, i have a galaxy S4 Intl (Snapdragon i9505) with the last firmware 4.3 and knox 0x0 ( i used the method of Vroot and Cleanup tool). Is there any way to install a custom recovery without increasing knox counter?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
At the moment no but hopefully I the future
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolon:
Looking at #2, what exactly is "Knox software"?

/Absie
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
Have you looked HERE ? OR HERE !
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xiather:
Knox blocks apps?

Hello. So I've recently updated to 4.3 and flashed over and over. Custom room here and root there, Soft bricked my phone and got it working again. All thanks to u guys here on xda forum .

Now I'm on 4.3 Nordic stock rom, rooted and using cwm recovery. Gt-i9505.

From time to time I get a shield popup in the notifications field that tells me that it has blocked a program that tried to get access to my system without permission. I press the notification and it only takes me to the :all: tab with all the programs on the phone.

Can I see what program that was blocked anyhow?

I assume that it is knox who is blocking?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolon:
Yes I did. I also read the Samsung page about their container for apps https://www.samsungknox.com/en/knox-mdm-feature-list

And that looks like a really annoying Active Directory setting in a Windows Server by an anal sysadm....

It's quite hard to follow this thread since we have from the start what roms to what to avoid and no root to root ok, but then?

The front page doesn't really answer the question I asked in my other thread so I continue here...

I asked about the REAL implications tripping that ducking flag?

I don't care about my warranty.

I ran HTC before and to root you had to go over to their dev-page and register to get a key to open up your phone so my phone was void after 1 hour.

I don't care about corporate apps.

I'm using my phone privately and no phones (with cameras) are allowed AT ALL where I work.

Yeah, we can actually confiscate phones or throw out visitors that starts to use them.

I don't want to downgrade to 4.2.2 when there is a 4.3

Why should I? :)

Can I still root, flash, play with my phone as I used too?

Or does it impose other restrictions on that as well? This is the essence in my question. What else does it mess up?

Can I still use the Omega Rom with the PRO Omega files? ;)

Or does it start the nightmare having to mod every program to get it working etc?

(Like the damn manual flashing and repacking of kernels on HTC One X)

Can someone please please, summarize this, and put it on the front page? I think it's way more important then warranty or not.

Because, as I stated in my other post (that I got chastised about),

I will make a case against Samsung (with the help of a nice state institution called KO here in Sweden that is like a bunch of lawyers that you can make complaint too).

Since this is something Samsung implemented that is limiting the function of the product that I bought AFTER the sale I might have a case here.

At least I can try. Doesn't cost me anything, but it's like I would by a Volvo without knowing that they will only allow my car to steer to left all of the sudden.

It's not the phone I bought anymore since I would never buy an iPhone-wannabe but stick to HTC.

It's different with software where Microsoft has made it so nice that you buy the "right to use the product".

But in this case I'm buying a product and it's MINE and they just can't limit my options as a developer (if I am) by making my phone not usable.

So please, does anyone know this or is it still "unknown"?

/Absie
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maanz "L":
Hi [mention=2142488]Absie[/mention].

I read 2 of yr posts and honestly, I'm attracted with yr comments. :)

As u have knew it, this is the first time Samsung injected Knox Bootloader on newer 4.2 and 4.3 firmwares.

I think the reason for this, for their side it is a security-base platform that prevent other people to access important datas on our device when activated, which to me is a nice feature BTW.

But there is a another catch for this.

Samsung thinks our device that we have bought

belongs to them

.

Do u agree??

I don't agree, why should u??

They will not want/allow their consumers to mingle/mess/hack "their" device.

I believe the reasons for this is that they are afraid that their economy/business will decrease if more people come to learn of these hack stuffs which can be found in this forum.

I don't know about business-wise, but this is what I think.

Previously, Samsung implemented the Binary Counter on ICS firmwares.

And now, they have injected the Knox Bootloader.

We don't know what's next in the coming 4.4 or 5.0 firmwares.

Samsung are aware that "their" devices are being hacked by the consumers

.

I have a strong feelings that there are Samsung "spies" in this forums, learning and reading our posts and threads.

Don't know who they are, but they are here in disguise.

This is how Samsung come to know that "their" device are being hacked.

U can still root, play yr phone like u used to, and flash any ROMs u like but u can't use knox things anymore, that's the only restrictions, I guess.

I have not heard or read any device messed up or nitemares when you're on 0x1 trips.

But here, people want to be on the "safe sides" without the Knox 0x1 trips so that in case their device breaks or something, they will not have to pay anything...(warranty purpose) ;)

Some people downgraded back to (latest with new bootloader) 4.2.2 firmwares because of some reasons.

In the near future, Knox Bootloader will be hack, just like Sony and HTC

...

If u have some powerful reasons to make a case to Samsung, please do so, mate.

The whole of XDA would want to read this.

Cheers..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanis64:
If there are any Samsung Spies here than take that:

Make a feature in stock Recovery where you can Reset that KNOX Warranty Void Flag to 0x0 and that enforces also a complete low level format of the internal SD Card.

So any existing Knox Containers go to hell and every Enterprise Environment or BYOD scenario will accept this in their security terms.

Other wise there will be a never ending ping pong game between Samsung on the one side and the Dev's on the other side. Samsung's trying to make their devices secure for Enterprise and BYOD use and the Dev's try to go around that security stuff so we can use the devices as we want to use it.

Regards

Send from the outback with my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jj03:
Wrong thread. Sorry ...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AsgharUK:
From what I can gather, I would assume that having the KNOX Void 0x1 would not negate your Samsung Warranty as that is and should be a separate hardware issue.

KNOX is all about security with layers of defence and the bootloader is the first line of that. So after tripping the flag your mobile is no longer considered secure and no you longer have access to the KNOX software. This in turn means that your mobile cannot share secure data, say in a business, KNOX community as your mobile is now a security risk.

I'm sure Samsung as well aware that some users customise their mobiles and this is not an attempt to stop that. The flag seems to be there to say that the mobile is no longer secured with the KNOX security software that Samsung intended and can no longer join the KNOX community and for only that reason.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Absolon:
And how do you know that?

I think that Knox, as it is, will expand further, and is the first part in a larger citizen control on a directive from NSA.

The citizen can be tracked more easily and you can utilize the phones capabilities from distance.

Prove me wrong please.

And that is the ultimate thing. The most sold phone have some programs that are for "secure environment" bla bla while it's feeding, as it does already today, but in a more structured way your activity.

Since you have a gmail it's not that hard to figure out who you are, and since we do things on a regular basis it's easy to build a profile about a person. We tend to do the same thing and if we do something that is outside of that then "Ding ding".

Knox is calling. We have a user outside his/her normal pattern. (x) Camera/mic on.

So until Samsung can't prove otherwise I will consider Knox a cooperation/deal with NSA for user-control. Please, prove me wrong on this? All concentrate on the bootloader. Have someone looked at the actual code? The apk, libs etc?

Since you lock out the user from controlling what is going on on your phone you have no idea what the phone does?

Yes, I'm Mr Conspiracy now but after thinking about it why should this not be the real reason?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikzDHD:
Well Google already scan our emails according to Microsoft for ad purposes , what other forms of spying do we need. We all know the consequences of carrying a smart phone, any one can hack in to it if the end user doesn't know what they are doing. Each to their own. If you believe KNOX is some NSA conspiracy then carry a dumb phone or no phone, or never use the internet ever again, either at home or at work or elsewhere in mind.

Every carrier keeps a record of all calls made, received, and SMS messages sent. I'm sure others keep logs of what we do as well. If Samsung really wanted our data I'm sure a big multi national corporation like Samsung could or would implement such a feature but I very much doubt KNOX is that feature. In a day and age of always on connectivity sure we are not safe but what can we do, I need my smart phone for my calls, emails, etc, when buying a phone I don't stop and think, oh wait NSA are tracking me best not purchase a phone.