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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ipanter:
I have an Exec and there is certainly a knack to answering a call on it, but i'm getting better!!!

Firstly the voicemail seems to kick in way too early, i only get 4 rings of the 'ring' ringtone max before the VM kicks in, sometimes i think it is less, but i may just be going deaf! does anyone else find this a problem?(not deafness)

As i usually have the exec closed in my pocket, this is how i answer a call.

1, Hear the first ring, if i don't it's too late already!

2, Drop everything, and remove phone(ha!) from case and open into laptop mode only. If i rotate all the way into PDA mode the screen takes too long to change and the call goes to VM before i can see who it is.

3, Answer call after seeing who it is

4, Rotate or close screen and put to my ear and wait 2 seconds to speak.

It's a real pain in the arse and very annoying.

Great forum btw, it's been very helpful, i knew bugger all about PDAs three weeks ago.

Ian
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Torben:
Which button(s) do you have success with?

The small green on the side,

the green above the other keys on the keyboard,

the soft key button,

or touching the screen?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] astage:
If you're using the Exec on o2, you can adjust the cut-in delay at the o2 end. You do so by keying in/sending the following to o2:

**61*901*11*xx# [send]

(where xx is number of seconds, e.g. 30.)

Note: I think the maximum delay allowed is about 30-secs - at least I've never got it to extend longer than that!

I have found that o2 occasionally reset mine back to about 10-secs, so have it programmed into a contact number.

HTH
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Torben:
I've found something interesting. :D

I tried to swap two sim cards.

<boring>

The one originally in my phone was a sim card from Orange Denmark (where I live). Orange has since been bought by Telia, and this same sim card is now using Telias network. This is by design. It gives my the roaming symbol all the time since the buy-over.

To say the least, some things have been very ****ty in this process, so I thougt that I might try another sim card.

</boring>

I had another one from TDC (another danish operator), and bang! My Universal (Jasjar) answers instantly - every time - on all the buttons!

Could some of you who have this problem as well, please confirm this? Please tell what kind of sim card (and country) you are networking through, and try another one.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Biso007:
maybe it's not the same, but it maybe connected ... have any of you noticed that answering the incoming calls from a BT headset is much more pain ??
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] adonker:
Answering phone

Hi all,..

very strange,..I have the same problem with my MDA Pro NL. The response time when answering a phone call is very long, but with the lid closed (L) the answering goes much faster. I had this problem with the original MDA NL Rom, and now also with tje imate rom, using the newest radio rom 1.04.02...

Does anyone know how to solve this? it's very anoying....

Many thanx and best regards

ADonker
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ipanter:
Astage, thank you very much. :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] astage:
You're welcome, glad it helped!

I found this out from o2 when my Jornada 928 had an inbuilt answering machine and I didn't want o2's voice mail cutting in first. Was rather surprised that the Exec doesn't have the same answer-and-record facility.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] PhiL P:
You can also adjust the ringing time using this method (probably applicable to all Universals):-

1) Go to the Phone app

2) Go to the Menu and select Options

2) Go to the Services tab

3) Highlight "Call Forwarding" then click "Get Settings..."

4) Adjust the time in the "Forward after:" box

:)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] adonker:
Nope,.

still didn't soled it. It really seems like the software is very slow. The phone ring is short "flickering" when answering in portrait mode, and it takes 4 sec to really speak to someone.

very anoying because you say "hello speaking with ...." and no one hears you, until 3 sec later...

Anyone has a sollution? I cannot contact T-Mobile cause the ROM is changed to the latest I-Mate Rom, using the Latest Radio Rom 1.04.02

Regards

AD
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] khaledelfeki:
I have the same problem here, I'm using Jabra BT800 with my I-mate Jasjar and whenever I press the answer button it takes around 2-3 seconds to connect to the other party.... but I got used to it now, I've been using the device for over two months now.... fortunately the BT gives me a beep in my ear to confirm that the line is connected so that I know that the other party definately hears me after this beep.

I up-graded to radio version 1.04.02, and I think it's a bit better than the original version, but still needs to be improved.

I hope that the coming ROM release will solve our problems.

Regards,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Biso007:
I received my device with the same OS as published in club i-mate site (1.12.38 WWE) but the Radio is 1.03.01 ... How did you get the 1.04 upgrade ? ... or u mean you don't use the arabic build ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hazymat:
<rant>

Had my Universal (Orange M5000) for a week now.

I have a love/hate with it: I have no idea why I insist on using a phone that actually causes me to drop over 50% of my calls due to slow response and/or not knowing how best to answer it (do I open then flip, wait for screen to rotate, then answer; do I open then answer then flip?) Most of the time I end up opening the phone, clicking answer and looking like an utter wally trying to speak into it in landscape mode.

And half the time I talk into the wrong end of the thing.

And half the time I try and grab the stylus from the wrong side!

Sure, I'll try and get the hang of it. But my old Nokia just *worked*. You answer a call, and voice is immediately connected. Sometimes I don't know if the screen has even responded to my tap to answer, and I can't use the hard buttons because you have to flip the screen and then you can't see who was calling!

Answering my phone is a game of Russian Roulette. The thing I hate most of all is holding it to my ear to speak after *thinking* I've answered it, and then finding out it hasn't been answered by it DEAFENING me with the loud ringtone! Arrrgg!

Why don't I get rid of it? My old PDA and phone combo was smaller put together! And they were fast to respond, neat, tidy. Why am I drawn to new technology for the sake of it? Why do I *want* it to work so much? Why do I invest time thinking about how to upgrade the ROM just to get that bit extra speed out of the thing?!

If anyone has particular feelings on this matter I'd like to hear them. Maybe I'm just being stupid, maybe PDA phones aren't for me, at least not until they get better?! Or should I get an older / smaller PDA phone, perhaps one without wifi - I never use it on the PDA anyway (have a small laptop).

</rant>
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] johnwx:
I don't understand all this phone gymnastics about how to answer the phone in what position......... :wink:

My phone rings I partially open it to see who the caller is...

If I want to answer shut the phone and hit the green button on the outside of the hinge...

Works for me, no dropped calls
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] khaledelfeki:
I do use the Arabic Build.....You can get the radio upgrade from the below ftp site:

ftp://xdaupload:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/

If you can not open the ftp site you can access it from here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site

and then you can click on universal uploads "at the end of the page".. you will find everything you need there including the new radio version.

Regards,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] SiliconS:
Same here. If I'm not using the BT headset then this works every time for me, although sometimes it can take a second to pick up the call. The only problems I sometimes get is with the headset. Occasionally the voice dialler cuts in when I'm pressing the headset button to answer a call, which is damn annoying.

But I know exactly what hazymat means. I'm with him/her all the way. If you're used to a standard mobile phone then these things must seem like a huge step backwards in the way they work as phones. Coming from an XDA2 though it's not such a surprise... ;)

lol @ "phone gymnastics" :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hazymat:
Hmm, I just need to get used to it :)

My problem is that if you turn it off in portrait mode, then flip the cover later, when someone rings it takes forever to redraw the screen. And when I finally see who is calling and flip to answer, it takes another age... and on top of that, sometimes just after the screen has redrawn to vertical it doesn't register me pressing the 'answer call' button on the screen itself. Also, it's been known to crash when someone calls - that's before I even set it up with ActivSync and installed any apps ... grrr.

Anyway, I shall persist. Probably will upgrade ROM, do all the tweaks etc.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dalelane:
i've admitted defeat! for the moment, at least :-)

i figure i'm not gonna answer a large number of my calls in time, and it's not worth the hassle of dropping everything and scrabbling frantically to try - i'll end up dropping it if i carry on like this.

i've set all my calls to forward to voicemail after 5 seconds and have accepted that i make calls on it only, not receive. i figure that people are more likely to leave a message if they don't have to wait for X rings first. and for the ones who don't, at least i can see missed calls to know who didn't leave a message.

try it - it's less hassle this way! ;-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jatt:
Hi all

May be if u turn off all call diverts, it rings for 1 min at least on O2 so u will hav lots af time for "phone gymnastics" to answer ur call.

It depends on network now, on o2 and t-mobile u can cancel voicemail urself but on 3 u have to ring them n they cancel it in 48 hrs, never bothered about orange

I dont use voice mail but there may be others who can't manage without it
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sergeantash:
When I do as you suggest and click the GET SETTINGS for Call Forwarding, nothing happens, is this a Non-O2 thing?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jatt:
hi

when u press get settings, it should say reading settings from network n if u r in network coverage area, should display all options like fwd all incoming calls or fwd cals only if no answer , unavailable or busy.

No i have seen this working ok with 3 sim

Try again or may be check this using a different sim

bye
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] mk1matt:
I had similar problem on my Exec but I found it was down to a few things:

Firstly, I was running SPB Pocket Plus which made the machine run really slowly. I removed this pretty sharpish!

The other major thing was that I was using a big wav file as my ringtone. I did some playing about with it in Adobe Audition (removed some of the intro and trimmed the end of the song) and saved it as a small WMA.

Using the big wav file the ring tone sound would be intermittent as well. Very annoying. With the WMA version it played perfectly.

Once I'd done the above it was fine. It's a case of opening the phone, flipping the screen (waiting only about a second for it to redraw) and pressing the green button. I've never missed a call on it since the above modifications were done.

Matt
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nathanlock:
I have had this happen if I lauch the phone settings through GSPPocketMagic, If I launch settings first from the old start button and then go in to phone, I do not get this problem.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gooroo:
Sorry don't quite understand this, why are you not all using your jj's with the screen facing out already? After all it only makes it the same as earlier models doesn't it? Is there a particular reason why you all close up your jj's with the screen facing in? I can see it adds protection but is it really that much of a risk with the screen facing out? I cant really see any reason to use the keyboard until such time as sending an email perhaps, even sms is easy with the on screen keyboard surely?

Just my two pence worth :)

Simon
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sergeantash:
No its primarily protection for it for me, the screen on my XDA2s took a slight beating over the few years that I had it - I'd be gutted if I broke this Exec!!

I'm getting even more frustrated with this phone, and its slow painful speed - also the way that after typing a text on my XDA2s, I'd click send and straight away press the power button and shove back into my pocket. Doing the same with my Exec appears to delay the SMS sending process until its turned back on again, at which point I get the 'Message Sent' confirmation.

Considering EBay....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] alijones00:
why rotate?

thought i'd throw my opinion into this thread too!

Firstly, i'm on o2 and have no problem getting call forwarding settings delivered to the handset from the network.

If you all prefer to carry the exec closed, screen facing in, then why insist on rotating it to answer a call? Just open the exec, see who's calling (if you need to) then close the lid again with screen still facing in and answer using the hinge buttons. cuts out all the hassle of screen rotation.

unless you want to make notes during a call or use other functions, why do you need your screen rotated and facing out?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hdubli:
hi guys

my experience is do not use big tones or MP3 ones..conevert them to wma..u will not face the problem...I am using JASJAR...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] pukka:
i got a krusell case, :D

http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=2095&category=7

best thing ever, not had a problem answering a call :D

Paul

New here but loving the forums
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] agent003:
Dont know if its just me having this problem but happened to me twice so far that I was booking an appointment for a customer (in apointments) and the phone rang .... when i answered the call it answered and then suddenly droped....person tryed phoning again twice more wilst I was fidling on with the apointments and same thing happened again every time, also my network signal was on full strength......This is whell annoying since I use this phone for buisness purposes mainly as its primarely ment to be and such things happening are just a nuiceance since I book appintments on this most of the time..... has anyone here experienced anything similar?

Regards

John
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tuningszocske:
OK guys.

I have the solution for one of your problems.

There is a 3 second!!! delay before ringing by default in wm5.

Why? It is a good question.

But there is the new tweaks2k2 application here http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/filemgmt/ , and with this great application you can set it to 0.

But be carefully because you need to set the registry to file-based from hive-based otherwise after you set a value in the registry and make a soft reset it changes back to the OEM default.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rottie:
First of all - can't you use a normal font? :shock:

second - the problem is not that the phone rings too late, the problem is that there is a delay between you press the button and you hear the person calling.

third - I don't think that anyone here will buy an application just to change a registry value :wink:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tuningszocske:
You welcome.

If you read all the previous posts one of the two problems is which I answer.

Maybe I'm blind.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] knowsleyroader:
The fact is, due to some kind of problem I havent used my Exec for calls yet as my data 5 sim wont allow them for some reason. Im looking into it.

Anyway im assuming the delay is caused by the os kicking in, switching the screen on etc. Has anyone tried answering a call without opening or switching the screen on and just pressing the green button while the case is closed ? If its ok in this mode then yeah obviously the problem is you dont know who is calling.

Im not up on programming for PDA's and im not sure what things people can access with their own software but is this a possibility for a little app ?

Obviously when you open the screen and a call comes in, if the number is in your address book it will tell you who is calling, so could someone write an application that while the case is shut it determines who is calling by checking the address book and then played a recorded mp3 or wav or whatever that says the persons name whos calling ? It could be recorded in a synthetic voice so it doesnt sound pap.

So the phone would ring. The app would check to see who it was and play the file based on your contact book i.e " Mr Thompson calling " it could then play your normal ring tone and maybe kick the " Mr Thompson calling " back in every 10 seconds or so. Obviously if it wasnt in your contact book you would just have it say " Unknown number "

This way you would know who was calling without having to see the screen and maybe it would avoid the delay ? I suppose even if it didnt fix the delay it would at least mean you didnt have to open and swivel etc just to answer a call.

Possible maybe ?

I realise some of you may have hundreds of contacts in your book and it would take a huge amount of recordings, but it would at least maybe be a help to the people who dont have so many contacts. I maybe only have 30 or so.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] SiliconS:
I think that 3-second delay must be there for a reason. Maybe it's needed to allow the OS to wake up fully before trying to fire the phone app, or maybe it gives the phone app chance to wake up and work out what's going on. Maybe without the 3-second delay the phone crashes when a call comes in.

The delay seems illogical, so it must be there for a reason. I'd be nervous about removing an apparently illogical OS limit like this one unless someone can give me a full explanation of why MS put the delay there and what the consequences are of removing it. :o

Have you tested this 'solution', Tuningszocske? Was it successful? :)

@ knowsleyroader:

Your idea sounds nice, but forcing the system to hunt through contacts to match the number, and then find and play the corresponding wav or MP3 sounds to me like a damn good way of delaying the phone even further. If people really can't answer their phone without knowing who's calling then (at the moment) they'll have to put up with the delay.

Hell, until 10 years ago we didn't even have caller ID in the UK! :o (OMG! How did we ever survive???? :o )

;) j/k
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jah:
@knowsleyroader

I have been using my Exec for two days now with no problems with stability or missed calls. The delay does not seem significant to me, tested by calling myself.

My Exec has the new ROM installed by O2 at their repair centre. I have installed NO third party apps at all. But without third-party apps the Exec has little use for me as I don't like the built-in PIM apps!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] knowsleyroader:
Not sure I wouldnt have imagined the processor finding it that difficult to locate a contact and begin playback of a sound file. Forgetting the delay, just thought it would be a feature to use to save you having to open the device just to find out who a call was before answering.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rottie:
I've found out something very relevant to this subject. I do experience the same problem, even worse because my side buttons don't work at all. And even when I open the lid and answer the call by pressing the screen it takes ages. I uninstalled the SPB Plus, the ringtone is 100kb wav so not too big.

And what I found out: I have an XDA EXEC with O2 rom, it's unlocked and I'm using it with Orange 3G simcard. And the problem exists only with Orange simcard in! When I insert the original O2 simcard, it answers the calls immediately,no delay at all! the side buttons are working, everything is perfect!

What shall I do? Install an M5000 ROM? Or is there any other way to fix it?

And sometimes I can't send texts, even if the signal is excellent, it just can't , after 4-5 times it's finally being sent. Any ideas?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tuningszocske:
Yes.

That's why I wrote.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fslunatic:
Tested and Working Solution!

As per a previous post and suggestion by "dherrero"...

<<I had the same problem and now is solved.

In phone/options/band select WCDMA (not automatic)>>

...I have changed the band setting to WCDMA, which is the 3G cellular network instead of the allied 2G GSM standard and can report that my phone rings instantly and the pickup button also works right away! Problem solved.....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] argh2000:
As for me I just toggle my screen off. WOrks perfectly so far :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tuningszocske:
I set from auto to WCDMA, but I had another bug. When my Exec couldn't find any WCDMA band, it turned off the radio modul and my dial disconnected. Radio bubble said: "no service"........... :evil:

Another thing.

I didn't install spb pocket plus, and there was the same bug.

So, PP is not guilty! :!:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Diggia:
I've also this problem

I must wait two seconds before i can hear the voice of the person calling me.

:(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jah:
In the early days of 3G implementation here in the UK the network rollout was dealyed (by the "3" company) because as cell phones moved between GSM and UMTS calls were dropped. Also I noticed that my first fully itemised bill for my JJ there were hundereds of connections and disconnections for data download. So, my conclusion is that the Universal handset has not been fully tested and refined for GSM/UMTS switching. By the way, after reporting my Exec was okay I noticed that I had been in a full 3G coverage area all day!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sergeantash:
I can't even get 3G in Taunton (Somerset) and only pick it up when in the center of Bristol.

O2 have useless coverage.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fslunatic:
Definitely Works

What I wrote definitely works as long as the phone stays on UMTS. If you let it switch back to another non-UMTS network you will again expereince lag. You need to edit your network provider preference list accordingly.

Please continue to report.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dcbingbing:
I'm using the same BT headset w/ my Dopod900, but it takes the call as soon as I press the answer button, almost in less than a second. Your problem I have experienced before while I was using Jabra800 w/ O2 Xdalls. There is an update firmware for Jabra BT800, you should update your headset. It should solve your problem. Go to Jabra Website you can find the update.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dcbingbing:
Furthermore, I have Spb Plus, Spb Weather, Spb Time on my machine. Everything works fine. So maybe it is not the one to blame. Must be something else.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] SiliconS:
My (upgraded) BT800 works very well with my Exec. Much better than my old HBH-60 headset. Answering calls is pretty much instant. :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ecraseur:
Problem solved on my Qtek 9000

I had the same problem on the incoming call and now is solved. However, i finally realized that it's the problem on the Resco Explorer 5.35 Today plug in installed on the SD card.

:D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Diggia:
Re: Problem solved on my Qtek 9000

I have installed Resco Today Plugin on SD but i don't put it on Today screen.

Is it the same ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ecraseur:
Re: Problem solved on my Qtek 9000

I disable the resco Plugin from the Today screen and my Qtek 9000 working fine now.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Diggia:
Thanks for your reply and for your mp :wink: