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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thampz:
Heya, I'm having hard troubles installing a new rom.. Through CMW that is.. I can do it just fine through Odin but I can't seem to find a proper rom that I would like to use that I could flash through Odin..

Anyways, my CWM keeps giving me this error.

format () expects 5 args, got 4
E:Error in /data/media/0/rom.zip
(Status 7)

And I just got past the E:Can't mount /cache and funny log errors.. My phone is not bricked _yet_ I just installed a new stock rooted rom from somewhere on these forums, forgot where I found it it but its this one: I9505XXUEML6_OXXEMK3_PRE-ROOTED-KOX-FREE-ODEX-FULL.tar and this rom doesn't have a good CWM so I flashed a new CWM through Odin, its phillyz custom CWM, seems to work best for now. Anyone could give me a hint on what I should do now? New CMW and try with it or? If so, please could you advice me what should I try next, since CWM 6.0.4.x didnt work and 6.0.10.x gave me can't mount errors.. My phone is GT-I9505 from European markets, no operator locks. I'm about |-| this close on throwing this **** to a wall as hard as I ever can.. Getting quite pissed that even flashing rom doesn't work and the stock rom is so bloated with samsung **** that its even slower than my 20 year old pc....

Thanks in advance!

br. thampz
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kel_niun:
Affected Apps and meaning of Kernel Lock?

Thanks to the OP for the summary. This confirmes some of my assumptions. But there are two main questions remaining:

What is the purpose of the "Knox Kernel Lock" value and when does it change?

What kind of apps are affected by the "Knox Waranty Void: 0x1" state?

Does it affect only some Samsung enterprise apps in a way that I am not allowed to login some Knox protected enterprise infrastructure, or are there other apps checking the Knox flag?

Is it possible, that some DRM enabled apps like music or video streaming services, won't work because the device is evil and the stream or offline content could be copied to another computer?

Does anyone know a service that is not working anymore after the Knox Waranty Void flag was set to 0x1?

What do you think?

Cheers, niun
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrC85:
Saferoot doesn't work on I9505 4.4.2, I tried it on NA5 firmware and it failed.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThiagoRFA:
Is it possible to root w/o tripping KNOX using the Root de La Vega method?

I've seen it was made to root the Note 3, but does it work for the GT-I9505 (AP: I9505VJUEMKE; CP: I9505VJUEMKE; CSC: I9505ZTOEMKE)?

If yes, where can I find the files to this root? The thread was made about it doesn't have files for the S4, just for the Note...

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benjiboythelad:
Hey I think q&a is were I should request some one to edit the framework. sview text color in particular

I want it to be red. Please. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
Hi there

This is a KNOX Q & A thread mate;) Not a general request thread:angel: Try posting your request in HERE :p
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benbird7:
I read this which is very true for the basis of Samsung's methodology with this efuse:

"How did Samsung go from employing CyanogenMod’s Steve Kondik and providing hardware to the custom ROM community to this sorry state?"

Because they started making money and now they want to make more money. With custom roms customers tend to keep their devices longer than Samsung wanted to, so they're loosing money.

Trouble is, those that were loyal to Samsung for the ability to root your device and put what firmware you want will move on. I am considering selling mine and sticking with my S2 for the time being.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] downwiththebanksters:
And that we were also the people/geeks our friends ask for advice, guess what brand we aren't telling them to buy anymore?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
Nope not suggesting Samsung to my friends.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beatmag:
Hi all. Have a noob question.

Is it correct to say that after installing the knox enabled kernel or rom. You cannot downgrade the kernel or rom below the version that is already installed without tripping knox to 0x01?

If I upgraded to djembey pre root rom nfa1 for example can I set the flash counter to 0. Then un root it by flashing with Odin to original nfa1 leak without tripping knox to 0x01 ?

As long as I flash with Odin the same version of the firmware but the official samsung firmware I can retain knox at 0?

Then when the phone comes back from warranty flash the same pre root nfa1 to get root bask without tripping knox?

I know nfa1 is a leak. The question is more about the process rather then claiming warranty with leak firmware.

Knox stops me from flashing custom recovery and non signed kernels is this correct?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wendiko:
I upgraded my i9500 to 4.3 by OTA.

My firmware now is I9500UBUEMK1 Brazil

How can I confirm if I have Knox? i see the app at the draw but

when i go to download mode (home + volume down + power) there is

nothing knox written there.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [opensys]:
-1 to down !

All accessories now must be paired with the device with KK.

http://androidandme.com/2014/01/new...tkat-update-disables-third-party-accessories/

Bye bye Samsung...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
+1 The arrogance of Samsung. People once again didn't ask for their peripherals not to work. All I can say is wow, and wow spelled backwards is still wow.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] latouffe:
I will never buy a Samsung again! I had I9000 and it was the best smartphone ever! I was contemplating the Nexus 5 (before i bought S4) but it had no removable battery and no storage expansion. But i did not read about this %|)#!$!@ KNOX! Now i regret.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Petrauskas:
hey, i got a I9505 running on XXUEMKF csc XEH.

I want to flash via odin this firmware XXUENA4 csc SEB

Will this trigger the KNOX flag and void my warranty?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P41g3:
This is a Samsung statement:)

Statement on the use of third-party accessories

To ensure a pleasant and smooth user experience with Samsung products for our customers, we recommend that only original accessories from Samsung be used. Of course, customers can continue to rely on third-party accessories. The full functionality of our devices and accessories, however, can only be ensured with genuine Samsung components, since only in this way it is ensured that equipment and accessories are perfectly matched. A correlation between the Android version 4.4 and the supposed incompatibility of third-party accessories does not exist.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Samsung became apple_sung. I already bought a Z1. The last will be i9506. Bye bye apple Samsung.

Send from GT-I9506 using Tapatalk

Devices: Samsung GT-I9506 and Sony Z1 C6903
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clonednull:
how can they lie like this? what a pethetic company... :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dermousis:
Does anyone have any good suggestions about online resources or books, about reverse engineering on kernel, bootloader, etc, for Android devices?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamzWorldOfMusic:
hi i have 3 questions about knox.

1. will knox stop me from installing custom recovery.

2. will it alert my carrier and samsung if its tamperd.

3. will it stop me from installing roms or booting custom roms?

thanks...Sam
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bordo_Bereli51:
1) No You can install custom recovery, it will not block you

2) No

3) No you can install everything what kind of rom or recovery you want

but in some country like in EU (Europe) it does not void warranty of the seller.

but in some country it does void warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamzWorldOfMusic:
ok thanks. one more question. Is there a way to find out if its locked onto a carrer or not
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] latouffe:
Well i can tell that in my city (Wroclaw, Poland) the warranty is void if you trigger Knox ;).

Way to go Samsung and Poland!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
KNOX must have been triggered by my carriers OTA. :rolleyes:

I don't know what KNOX is...

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] latouffe:
Well, and is it working? :) And how with root and flash counter? :P
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rusigor:
XEH vs SEB

AFAIK XXUEMKF(csc XEH)=XXUEMKF(csc SEB) - same region file I9505OXXEMK3, containing both regions. Hence - this is same ROM.

As for XXUENA4 csc SEB, at the time I have no d/led this ROM, so no conclusions. But if you d/led this ROM, you can upload cache.img.ext4 from it - so I can look inside for SEB/XEH regions. If XEH there - surely this ROM JUST for you officially, hence - no KNOX will be triggered (but I'm asured, it will not be triggered if even XEH is not there. as ROM itself is genuine SAMSUNG, not customized)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
thanks mate, i'll correct. I thought from following some of the threads that it messed up root access, it kinda half worked?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
its the wording on the download mode that worries me - "Knox Warranty void" why did they have to include the word warranty??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
When you signed up for a contract with your carrier, did it have anything relating to a Knox Warranty? No? Then you have nothing to worry about :good:

As far as I know, I did not sign any 'Knox Warranty'. I haven't seen any official Knox Warranty documentation. So the wording is moot. Samsung CANNOT declare that all our phones are invalid because we broke a 'Knox Warranty' that we never even agreed upon.

Now, if by voiding this 'warranty' we cannot user our phones or we cannot revert to an older firmware or root our phones (they are OURS, MINE, YOURS, not the carriers not Samsung's), then this needs to be taken up with the court and with the EU commission. We are by law allowed to do with our phones what we want to do (as far as tech can take us anyway, or the holy Chainfire :p)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
yes that is true, however im thinking that this is basically the flash counter triangle with another name and it is going to be the same argument about warranry. But its good to know that we are right things are easier in first 6 months it seems, after that slightly harder as you may have to prove the fault...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
So you can use custom roms after being flagged,but what about root explorer and titanium backup?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamflamez:
I just made a phone call to samsung service center in london and the lady told me straight that it would void your warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kantjer:
Of course they do. Just don't accept it. I have had a similar discussion with Apple some time ago, I only mentioned I considered legal steps and that was end of discussion. Device was repaired under warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
its frustrating, it shouldnt be a fight to get what we should under law.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kantjer:
I agree, but this is the way it is. There first reaction is always "no" until they see you wont back off and are prepared to fight for it
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
If you can get a custom ROM working, then doesn't that automatically mean that you can get root? Which leads to the conclusion that root explorer and TB would work.

Same here. Fight for it. If you want to have some fun, take your laptop to the service centre. Then in front of them, restore it to stock, use triangle away, and reset everything. Then they'll have to take it :P

(I assume you mean that you called about rooting and flashing not Knox)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chavdar:
If there is someone with law background reading and participating in this forum baybe he or she can adress the issue with the knox flag directly to samsung and end the knox hysteria at least for EU.

Maybe some semi - official statement on Samsung side ;)

Sent from the N7100 Galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acasmc:
i have recently founded that there are two versions of Galaxy S4. korean model, and model for rest of the world. can someone tell me the difference between these two models?

also another question is, are roms from here working on Korean version?

thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
Buddy, this is the Q&A for Knox, not the general Q&A. Anyway, there is an LTE-A version of the GS4 in Korea, which has a different CPU, so no the ROMS for i9505 will probably not work. If you have the normal S4, then the ROM's should work fine I think.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silentscreamer:
Have a closer look @ MF8 (BTU) Release, mate :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Why would I do that? I'll never flash that leak with Knox bootloader.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chavdar:
Come on guys - no tech friedly lawers, just phone nerds ?

:)

I suppose i can also ask myself, but if they say warranty is then void i can only quote the EU Directive and that's about it ;)

Sent from the N7100 Galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Even en mass, the total number of us that might formally complain is totally insignificant to Samdung and would be totally ignored. Waste of time and resources. They've made their position quite clear, which can essentially summed up as:

"Screw you, AOSP developer community. We don't need you."

If you haven't gotten that message by now, I have to wonder where you've been for the last few years.

They just don't care, and they never will. Period.

If you really want full AOSP support, get a Nexus or an Oppo N1. I suspect the latter might even be a better option than the Nexus at this point, given that it will have a CM option out of the box.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] getdunexpected:
Guys I'm on DBT non rooted stock - XXUDMH5 with the new Knox boot loader currently flag set at 0x0.

Can I flash a Greek stock rom (XXUDMH6) or UK stock (XXUDMH8) without offsetting the Knox flag!?

And on rebooting into recovery will it apply the respective csc like it used to happen earlier?

Anybody tried it yet!??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
If you have EVERYTHING stock (bootloader, no-root, no custom recovery) then you can upgrade to any Knox bootloader without triggering the flag. You just cannot downgrade after it, so basically: It's a one-way street to KNOX ville, and there's no exit. Once you flash one, you cannot get rid of it at this point, without setting off the flag, and even the best minds that are working on it haven't figured it out yet and don't feel confident about the future possibilities.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silentscreamer:
:pLeak ?? :D

You made it!:thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
I have no more knox warranty void problems now and forever because I have Sony Z1-C6903. Easily upgrading from 4.22 to 4.3 with root on locked bootloader and vice versa. Enjoy! Bye bye Samsung. I can foresee that even harder to root on 4.4 rom and developers will be slowly move away from Samsung phone.

Send from my C6903

my device: Sony Z1C6903

Samsung I9506
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
If Verizon was friendly with Sony, I'd have one.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cavaz:
Warranty NOT void in Italy

Hi guys,

a my friend sent his Galaxy S4 (I9505) to assistance because he hard brick his phone. Before sent it to them, it has trigged his knox warranty void flag to 0x1. I was very surprise when he said that he didn't pay anything for the repair.

Under my advise, he said to the assistence center that he tried to update the phone with ota update and then the update gone wrong.

Now he has Knox warranty void 0x1 but the phone is completly repaired.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
Nope. No firmware downgrades.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Samsung 4.3 will not allow you to downgrade to 4.2.2 also tripped knox counter. You bought a new phone and easily void the warranty like me. Now I was a happy Z1 user and I can flashed 4.3 and backed to 4.2.2 hassle free. Also my Z1 been rooted on 4.3 with locked bootloader plus dual recovery (twrp and Phil). Enjoy my few days old Z1 more. Bye bye Samsung. Will going to unsudscribe all the threads related to knox and Samsung. As well as sammobile .com

Send from my C6903 using TapatalkPro

my device: Sony Z1C6903

Samsung I9506
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zubix:
Is it possible to recover OTA updates?

I noticed that, just like with the old flash counter, when u trip the knox flag the device won't allow you to update OTA. My questions the are the following:

1. Will I be able to update to 4.4.2 TW (whenever Samsung decides to release it) via Kies? or the tripped flag won't allow even that?. If I recall right, with the flash counter you could still get the official updates via Kies and then start getting OTA updates again, even if u hadn't reset the counter.

2. If the former was possible (say it is possible to get official updates via Kies), once "officially updated" will I get OTA updates again?.

Sorry if this question was already answered, I didn't find it on the 1st page and I wasn't willing to go through 99 pages :)

My device is a i9505 with rooted stock firmware, stock recovery.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abbaskip:
The first post is great, but it doesn't give any information for those who have a Knox enabled boot loader, but haven't triggered Knox 0x1. Can we use custom roms? Can we use leaked, unmodified firmwares?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

You can use custom ROMS,recoveries,and kernels , but they will trigger your knox flag.

If you upgrade to the leaked 4.4 unofficial ROM , you will be stuck at that level with no current possibility to downgrade.

AFAIK you will keep 0x0 knox

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abbaskip:
Thanks. My understanding was that you could downgrade, just not to a pre-knox ROM? Can anyone confirm?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

I am fairly certain that once you have the knox-pox , you can only go to an equivalent firmware or newer.

You can downgrade, but you will not have a fully working mobile.

Something like wifi or sound or both , will not work.

I am happy to be corrected , but that is my understanding.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abbaskip:
Hmmmm. Ok. I'm not sure I've ever read anything about downgrading to another Knox enabled ROM. Everything refers to downgrading to a non Knox ROM to remove Knox. That, of course, triggers a 0x1. But I'm not sure about to a Knox enabled ROM
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tihomirone:
Hi. My i9505 is rooted, but with KNOX 0x0 . How can I revert from "custom" to "Samsung Official" status in KNOX safe way. Is it safe to use triangle away + flashing official 4.3 rom ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmik21:
Yes it is. First reset the flash counter and then flash through odin an official rom.

I had mine flashed with the saferoot method and when i used triangleaway with the instructions in the saferoot post it was samsung official status.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaDoMax:
that's true, does anyone revert the 0x1 ? or is even possible?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abbaskip:
No you can't revert the 0x1. That much is clearly stated everywhere.

My question isn't about reverting. My question is asking if you have a Knox enabled phone (but still 0x0), can you upgrade to leaked, but pure samsung firmwares in Odin. And can you downgrade to other Knox enabled firmwares? I understand you can't downgrade to a pre-knox ROM, but what about another Knox enabled ROM?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaDoMax:
by reading around, it's pretty much only going up, any kind of downgrade will trigger the 0x1, in fact, i got to kitkat by odin and 0x0, went back to 4.3 and got 0x1, all roms by pure samsung fw. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juzzy16:
Dont no if this has already been answered, and sorry if it has. Can you still update by kies when the knox has tripped?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inamati:
Is it normal

Hi, I have a related question. Is it normal when booting it appears on the upper right corner a yellow warning? Just flashed Omega v21.1
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] latouffe:
Its not the section for this! Here is KNOX!

But answering, yes its normal. It means your phone is rooted and flashed with something else than stock.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inamati:
But I have had several custom roms like probam and cm and only when I flashed the 4.4.2 stock this started to appear...

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terminator1983:
I am not concerned about Samsung warranty should i update to the new bootlaoder and are there any advantages of updating to knox bootloader.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

No knox is better than having knox.

If you have a choice that is.

Without knox , you are not restricted by what you can and cannot install.

You are able to downgrade without issue.

With knox you can install most things , but you cannot currently downgrade firmware.

Unless you actually want knox to use the secure container, you are better off without it.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terminator1983:
Any particular thing that i can only use on the knox bootloader ???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] X-Plosiv:
Hello,

I have a question. My S4 is coming for few days, but I have one concern.

If I get it with 4.2.2. (T-Mobile in Croatia), that means there is no KNOX. Can I then safely root it and install custom ROM (4.2.2. ROM or 4.2.3. if ROM has warning that it's ok to install) without triggering KNOX since then I don't have KNOX when I bought my mobile phone (since it will be 4.2.2.).

At the moment, I have S2 and I love adding custom ROMs on it. So this KNOX kind of pisses me.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

There are still some 4.2.2 firmwares with knox.

Anything after MGA has the knox bootloader.

If you have MGA or before (no knox) then , you can flash a custom recovery.

Anything flashed with a custom recovery , will not have knox bootloader .

You can therefore flash 4.2.2 , 4.3 , 4.4 ROMS safely.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] X-Plosiv:
Thank you very much!

I'll let you know what firmware I have. If I have 4.2.2. , then I put custom firmware and load any 4.3. ROM? amazing!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
I have MGA bootloader, and am currently running SlimKat (KitKat 4.4.2) with a custom kernel with no issues at all, fingers crossed for you ;)

Sent from my 9505GTi
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sniipe:
When 4.3 came out I had multiple restarts per day. This went on for 3 weeks. I decided to downgrade to 4.2.2 because of the restarts. My phone still wasn't working - issues with wifi not working etc... so I decided to send it into Samsung. Eventually I get word back that it is out of warranty due to knox warranty voided.

Do I have any come back what so ever? I feel like 4.3 damaged my phone and thought 4.2.2 would be better.

It will cost me 160euro approx to get it fixed...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Is your phone 100% stock with no modification?

If so , take it back and tell them that there was no warning the downgrading the firmware would trip the flag.

If their firmware was not so poor, you would not have done this.

:)