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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] balu25int:
Wait, I thought it was my imagination. But, the sequence went on like this. While rooting I was observing the phone and it showed something like "setting bit value", at the first boot after rooting.

This is confusing as I had presumed that flashing anything custom as well as setting KNOX was simultaneous process.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renercarvalho:
Error oppening knox

Hello.

I've rooted my s4 and uninstalled all knox components with titanium backup.

Now, I reinstalled the 4.4.2 stock rom, the knox is there, but when I open it, the screen shows "Please Wait" and close it.

Anyone know how to solve this?

My knox counter is 0x1.

Thanks.

GT- I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pda4g:
you never can use Knox
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
Does knox 0x1 prevent ota updates, or is it the state of being towelrooted which stops them?

I'd like to root just to install adaway, nothing more, but I'm unsure weather the ota update feature is linked to root or knox status - if root, would unrooting allow otas or would I be stuck using Odin? I'm on 4.4.2, 0x0 unrooted currently.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imvarda:
Few hours later and I'm still trying...

Finally managed to get some firmware downloaded, but every time I try to flash it in Odin (3.07 and 3.09) I get a fail...

So I tried doing the PIT thing...I just get: Get PIT for mapping..and it hangs there.

Anyone have any idea how I can get Odin to start working? I've tried various cables and all 3 of my USB ports,
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mukeshpacheria:
Knox 0x1 not stop OTA

but if your system status Custom then you cannot update via air

and your kind information if You root then your bin count increase and there is no way to reset bin count in I 9500 ( even triangle away not working in I9500 )

every root mathod in I9500 tripe the knox and system status is custum and its also increase bin count
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlberRap96:
Hi everyone

Yesterday I updated my s4 from 4.3 MK8 to 4.4.2 GNF1, and then it updated automatically to GNG8. After this last update, I had my device rooted (towelroot) and then it unrooted. Since towelroot doesn't support this firmware, is it possible to downgrade to GNF1 without tripping knox?

PD: i have the gnf1 in 4 parts+pit, and the gng8 in 1 archive.

Thanks [emoji4]
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dequadim:
With Knox 0x1 any future firmware update via Odin (v4.4.4 and over) will be possible or not?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jihedovsky:
Help please ...

hello everybody . In a probably related matter can any one help me fix this problem

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/help/i9505-probably-knox-related-sound-t2845214

Thanks a lot .
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christty31:
hi guys,

i need your help....

i have GT-I9505 with 4.3, rooted with towelroot, KNOX is 0x0, secure boot status:type Samsung, device status: custom.

but if i want to upgrade to 4.4.2 using odin and official 4.4.2 firmware the KNOX will stay at 0x0?

after 4.4.2 is installed can i root it again with towelroot without problems like tripping KNOX or voiding warranty ?

thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MegaMoose2000:
Cant root my sphl720 with towelroot help!!!!!!!! Anyone!!!!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
of course you can downgrade to nf1. You can use a normal one part firmware without pit.

Flash the 4.4.2 NF1 Firmware and root with Towelroot. Knox will stay 0x0.

Don't update to NG8, because then you can't use Towelroot anymore.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlberRap96:
Thank you, I had found the answer in another forum and I downgraded successfully and then rooted with towelroot, knox 0.

And you can be root in gng8, but you have to go from gnf1 rooted to gng8 via mobile odin and do it carefully (I don't know exactly how, but it's possible).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
Is that true about the versions? Can we just flash & switch firmware channel? How can we find the differences between the two?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tkkg1994:
G8 not working with towelroot

I tried it with the newest version from Samsung, the G8. Towelroot v3 didn't work with it, shows me "Your device isn't currently supported" or something like this.

Yeah you can flash the other Firmware. Knox stays 0x0 and you don't have to do a wipe :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
i9505 on 4.4.2 + Towelroot = SUCCESS!!!

A brand new, carrier-unlocked i9505 just landed at my place, and (as you do) I wanted root without tripping the Knox flag. I made sure Knox wasn't installed, then started surfing for 'How to Root and Not Trip Knox'. After finding, downloading and copying to the phone the very latest Towelroot apk, (with thanks to XDA member GeoHot) I checked Download mode status to confirm Knox count at 0x0, then restarted to go and install Towelroot. About five seconds after tapping the screen, it told me root access was available. The phone did not auto-reboot, so I closed the Towelroot app, rebooted into Download, and Yes! Knox was still at 0x0! Got the phone running as normal, then next stop Play Store to grab JoeyKim's Root Checker. Threw it on, tapped Verify Root and voila! The beautiful green writing that says, 'Congratulations! This device has root access!

Brilliant!, you say, but then you ask, Is my phone the same as yours? Well, here's details of my device from the 'About phone' screen in Settings...

Model number: GT-I9505

Android version: 4.4.2

Baseband: I9505ZHUFNB3

Kernel: 3.4.0-805641 dpi@SWDD3914 #1

Build number: KOT49H.I9505ZHUFNB3

SE for Android: Enforcing SEPF_GT-19595_4.4.2_0017

Secure boot: Samsung

Security software: MDF v1.0 Release 2

Again, as GeoHot (and others who are helping us get 'root' on our beloved devices) will tell you, it's a 'try at your own risk' thing. I merely provide the information above to help out those members of our awesome community who want root access but are still concerned about tripping the Knox flag. Hope it gets you on your way, cos the bloatware in the latest stock ROM just has to get cleaned out...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
No...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
I rooted xxunge8 w towelroot and selected to disable knox but it failed, retried and said it worked but I could still launch it. That's fine though.

I then installed xposed & adaway and rebooted. Took the phone out running & experienced about 10 random soft reboots. Would this be knox complaining or supersu or something else? Uninstalled adaway and xposed & it's still happening.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Try to delete the all Knox stuff with Titanium Backup.

Did you check your root access?

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
I've root ok, just restarts. Moved knox fills to sd card as listed in a post, had a few not there (container stuff) but all deleted, will see. It's it knox being attempted to be run that's causing restarts? I guess I need to check logcatv when home
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
You can easily delete them with Titanium backup ;)

yes, Knox often causes reboots

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
Thanks. I've just moved then to sd card with Solid Explorer in case I need then for an ota-my tablet throws a fit if it's missing some apks during an update! I'll keep an eye on it and see how it goes.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
When I first turned on the phone, in the Apps drawer I came across a Setup for Knox. I've since found it's exclusively for A T & T-branded phones, which is why I consider myself lucky that I left it alone.

If you reboot to Download, and find your Knox flag has tripped, ie: Knox has 0x1 next to it, then you're done for warranty. If you've dodged a bullet and Knox is 0x0, get the stock unbranded KitKat firmware for your region/country, flash it in via Odin - which will Not trip the flag - and then root with the latest Towel-root. I've left everything Knox alone on mine, but ripped out the bloatware (ChatOn, Tapatalk, etc) and am yet to experience a random reboot. My Knox flag (in Download mode) still says 0x0, so I'm happy with the stock bloat-free firmware running the same Launcher I've had since I first bought a i9000 back in September 2010, with all the apps I like now restored by Titanium Pro, until such time as my warranty expires and tripping Knox won't be an issue...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bingley:
I'm finally reboot-free for a few hours, hooray! I just moved all knox stuff to the sd and wiped the dalvik & rebooted. In odin mode I'm 0x0 knox kernal lock and 0x0 knox warranty :)

It does now say write protection: enable, and emmc burst mode enabled, but I guess they're nothing to worry about. I used to be Zeam launcher since forever but just had to use Nova to hide apps while I'm making sure I'm not killing anything. Wifi keeps dropping/reconnecting which is is annoying but I can live with that. Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
When you won't flash any custom rom, kernel or recovery you have nothing to worry about ;)

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Now, just go find the latest Towel-root, throw it in, get root access, install a System App Remover - they're free all over Play Store - and bring your i9505 to life. Just be careful doing the uninstalls, if you think it needs to stay then it more than likely does. I myself smashed out over 450MB of bloatware, and now those apps aren't demanding memory and data bandwidth, it seems as though my device is a lot more stable and 'free' (if you get my drift)...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christty31:
i have talked right now with Samsung Romania regarding KNOX.

It seems that if KNOX is tripped the warranty is lost... :( no matter if KNOX is tripped because root or custom ROM...

this is bull****
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pda4g:
For all these things spoken a million times
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ganjax:
Hello.

I want buy SGS4 i9505, and have question.

If i'll have 4.2.2 firmware with old bootloader, then it will have no KNOX secure?

If i'll have old bootloader, and i'll not update ROM via KIES/OTA, then i'll have still warranty after root/install custom ROM?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
MGA is the last 4.2.2 without Knox.

Since firmware 4.2.2 MH1 Knox bootloader is activated.

When you have the old bootloader you can do everything what you would like to. And you still can get back your warranty. When you do any updates you still have Knox online.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ganjax:
It's possible to verify that phone i'll have old bootloader before buy it?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
When you have the possibility to start the phone and check the firmware and built number before buying it, it's possible.

You can find the information at settings -about devise.

But I don't know whether the seller allows you to unpack the devise to start it...or you can just asks the him ^^

But it will be very difficult to get a S4 running android 4.2.2 MGA, I guess.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Astriglota1912:
How do I disable the thermal throttling?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tibiz:
spam, delete
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
Are you sure? Have you tripped knox and can't set lock screen security to NONE, or have you read this somewhere?

I have never heard this before...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Well, I tripped Knox and still can set lockscreen security to NONE.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
I think we don't talk about the same. You said you installed Knox, means that you activate it and use the privacy features of it? Maybe you have to use a lockscreen, when you want to use Knox, I don't know.

And I mean that I tripped Knox counter by flashing modded software.

Right or not?^^
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renercarvalho:
I can set the lock screen to NONE, too, but the "immediately block with the power key" funcion is always on, even when is unchecked. I can't disable it. I think they are bugs caused by knox counter.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
I don't have these issues :)

And Knox is tripped as well.

Maybe it's relating to the firmware version
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renercarvalho:
In my case, I think no. My application is not installed and I can't install it. When I click on the knox icon, the knox screen shows the message "Please wait" and close it again.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Knox closes because you tripped it already, don't you?

Than you will never be able use it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renercarvalho:
Yes, I tripped it.

But when the phone was rooted, I've unistalled all knox application, so I don't have the Knox installation, the problem appears when I try to install it.

So, I think the issues on screen lock are not because the knox installation.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
If you are still knox free on 4.2.2 you can flash anything you like, stick to custom roms that are flashed from recovery, don't update your bootloader and you can stay knox 0x0 easily :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
If your device is no longer covered by Samsung warranty, then there's no need to be concerned about Knox. I will however advise that you steer clear of stock KitKat ROMs newer than June 2014. From a lot of research it's my understanding Google have changed the bootloader/kernel to such a degree that it's now extremely difficult to get root access on any device running a stock 4.4.2 ROM released after June 2014, even with Towelroot. From what I've heard on the grapevine Google have even gone to the extreme of hiring geohot personally - the developer of Towelroot - to close any exploits on upcoming Android OS versions. As far as I'm concerned, the actions of Google to prevent root access goes against the whole premise of Android being an 'open source' operating system. What's the point of it being free and open if the end user can't make alterations to that OS?

Exactly 100% right. As much as Kit Kat is a decent step up from JB, it's not worth losing full control of your device...:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neutrino7:
I have android 4.4.2 on my S4Gt19505 and it's rooted with towelroot and works brilliantly on a later stock rom. I have been plagued by know for about a year now It totally wrecked my device for about 8 months lost all sound so it would not work as a phone. The device is now out warranty so has very little value. I feel robbed by Samsung and will never have another.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akz007:
Thanks for the replies :) could you suggest any ROMs with a recovery as close to a stock ROM as possible, appreciate it

---------- Post added at 11:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:02 AM ----------

Thanks for the replies could you suggest any ROMs with a recovery as close to a stock ROM as possible, appreciate it
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rvl7:
Using I9505 Official 4.4.2 NG2. with no longer covered by Samsung warranty. I am new about KNOX stuff, i read 1st page.

i just want to make sure that if KNOX 0x1 is still got Update from samsung officialy?

Any major effect if KNOX says 0x1 exept warranty void? (like we cannot use specific apps)

Regards
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
You can get official updates.

First your warranty is gone and second you can never use features of Knox again. That's it

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
If you're still at Knox 0x0 and your device is not older than the 12 month warranty period, the only way you're going to keep warranty and 'root' it is to flash in through Odin a Stock Samsung ROM from sammobiles which is older than the June 4.4.2 releases. All Stock Samsung ROMs written after the first week of June have the new bootloader/kernel combo, which is proving very difficult to root without breaking Knox.

I myself have only had my i9505 for three weeks from brand new, so I have no intention of updating the firmware I'm running until such time as my 12 month warranty expires. This is because I prefer a rooted phone (with Thanks to geohot and Towelroot) and I also want to keep the full factory warranty. However, once that warranty period ends in early August 2015 I will be looking for the best 'custom' ROM available and installing it straight away, because I won't be concerned about Knox 0x1 voiding a warranty that has already expired...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abdullahxda:
Hai guys,

Need help....

Using the 5500 battery replacement battery for s4,

Maydamage the phone r not!!!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adilabdi110:
Hey hawke84 hru, i wann to know for gt i9505 in india unlock divece is fine for rooting and flashing custom rom, coz rit now i have gt i9500 and its pretty good for rooting n flashing, but afta some day i m getting gt i9505 so plzz help should i swith to i9505 or not, plzz help, thnks mate.. ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christty31:
hi guys,

is still correct that I9505XXUGNF1 can be rooted with towelroot without tripping konx?

I'm asking this because i found that any ROM later than June 2014 cannot be rooted safely, or I9505XXUGNF1is July 2014....

GT-I9505	Romania	2014 July	4.4.2	I9505XXUGNF1

thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Hey,

you can also root the newer firmwares with towelroot and without tripping Knox.

Take a look here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2862768
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] christty31:
i know about this, but i'm afraid is too risky, i dont want to loose warranty due to KNOX :( ....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GalaxyUserTGW:
KNOX Questions

Hi XDA,

There are some queries I have regarding KNOX on Android 4.3 SE enabled firmware. I'm currently on ML1 and rocking a GT-I9505 variant.

Question ONE: I know that installing custom recovery sets the KNOX flag to 0x1. I don't really care about that. But does the KNOX tripped flag cause me not to revert back from custom ROM to stock KNOX-enabled firmware?

Question TWO: Can I simply disregard KNOX altogether if I don't work in an office environment that requires the Samsung KNOX feature?

Question THREE: Under what circumstances that's related to

KNOX tripping

will my phone not operate (in other words

HARD BRICK

)?

Thank you for reading through to answer my queries.

Signing off as GALAXYUSERTGW.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Hi,

1. You can flash back from custom to Knox enabled stock firmwares without any trouble. The only thing is, that you won't be able to user the features of Knox with 0x1 flag.

But notice that you have to flash a 4.3 or higher version of Android then.

2. It is your choice. When you want to use the Knox skills then the counter have to stay at 0x0. I don't use Knox, but that is your choice.

3. You have to watch out which firmwares you install. Don't downgrade any firmware, don't use triangle away to reset the counter because that's not possible. That's all I guess.

And first of all backup important data, including IMEI/EFS. That is very important.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GalaxyUserTGW:
Backup IMEI/EFS???

HOW then do I backup my IMEI/EFS? Please reply thanks!

EDIT: Do I use this webpage? W0lfdroid – How to Backup & Restore EFS [imei] for all Samsung Galaxy S4 Variant

Signing off as GalaxyUserTGW
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Take a look here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2433966
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
confused about Knox status

OK, so I've read a lot - maybe too much. I have a GT-I9505 with stock GNG8 (it did a ton of OTA updates right when I got the phone before I knew about all of this so I don't know what the original rom was). I was able to towel root it and install CWM recovery (6.0.4.4), SuperSU, Titanium, remove the Knox programs to stop the reboots, all that good stuff. Knox is 0x1 at this point. (No biggie for me.)

But I'm confused as to my status - do I still have the locked down bootloader or not? if you see the screenshot, it says "SE for Android status: Enforcing" and "Secure boot status: Samsung". Does that mean the locked down knox bootloader is still there or not? If not, what does it mean?

If I boot into recovery mode, the top three lines of the screen say this:

recovery booting...

Recovery is not SEAndroid enforcing

set warranty bit: recovery

One tells me SE Android is enforcing and the other tells me it isn't. Who do I believe?

If I go into download mode, the top of the screen reads like this:

Odin Mode

Product name: GT-I9505

Current binary: Custom

System status: Custom

Knox kernel lock: 0x0

Knox warranty void: 0x1

CSB-config-LSB: 0x30

Write Protection: Enable

eMMC Burst mode: enabled

I'm having a big problem with the GPS not functioning and losing the radio signal on a regular basis in areas where I know there are no reception problems and other phone hardware doesn't have reception problems. I'm thinking about trying CM11 as a possible solution. However, the download mode tells me something is write protected. Am I able to flash a custom rom at this point, if write protection is enabled? Getting CWM recovery on there was a little harrowing - after installing the zip the phone was soft-bricked for a while and repeated attempts finally broke it free and got it installed, but I was sweating it out for a while because of the soft-brick. I don't want to really screw it up by trying to flash a rom that is going to fail because of some knox/write-protection thing.

Or have I just gotten too paranoid?

Thanks in advance for the expert advice!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
If you're at Knox 0x1, you've voided your warranty for good so you're best off flashing in CF-Auto-Root (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2219803), picking one of the 4.4.4 Custom ROMs and moving forward from there...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
Right. I know the warranty is voided. I wish it wasn't but I'll deal with it. (For example, I might move to another manufacturer next time, BTAT. :p)

It's all the other indicators on the screens that have me a bit confused. What's write protected? Is the knox secure bootloader still there or not? The "About" screen says "Secure boot status: Samsung" but I thought that CWM recovery replaced that. Am I wrong? The "About" screenshot says SELinux is enforced (SE = Security Enhanced = Knox, correct?), but the recovery screen says no. What's the truth?

Since you brought it up, do the 4.4.4 custom ROMs deal with the GPS/radio issues?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
I myself am at Knox 0x0 on a 4.4.2 Stock Chinese ROM released in March 2014, so Towelroot worked on it. From what I understand, the guy who wrote Towelroot now works for Google, closing exploits for Android versions released after June 2014. There are others here on XDA who know much more about the i9505 than myself, so as for what happens to the bootloader after a custom 'Knox-tripping' Recovery is flashed in, I'm sorry but I don't know....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
OK, but from your experience, a phone in this state (i9505, CWM, rooted, 4.4.2/GNG8) should be able to flash a custom ROM like CyanogenMod without problems?

Any tips/leads on the GPS/radio issues?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wild1z:
Sounds like a plus to me. :) I have an I9505G inbound. Cannot wait!