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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] worms:
When I flashed the MI1 without KNOX after I had to flash also a kernel without KNOX.

Specifically I flashed adam kernel.

Now there are any kernel for MI8 without know? I can't find it.

thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
So don't flash rom started sept 2013 with i9505xxDmh8 or i9505xxEmi8. All roms with D or E will have new bootloader. Once you rooted and knox counter will changed to 01 which impossible to reset it at the moment maybe forever, Also void your warranty. So flashed any older firmware with B like i9505xxuBmga or xxuBmg5. You will have freedom to root and flash counter can be reset by TA.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjeMBeY:
ROOT de la Vega - Working on GT-I9505!! :)

The BIGGEST moment has arrived....

First in the World, patched FW for GT-I9505 using new method "Root de la Vega" by [MENTION=2348906]designgears[/MENTION]

Works like charm, TESTED on XXUDMH8!!

KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0!!!!! (not tested by it MUST be!! :p)

Available soooon.... stay tuned!! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kydwnas:
G r e a t N e w s ! ! !
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssneoh:
Great News! A New Hope! At last, I can root my i9505 without increase the warranty counter to 0x1 ....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace_of_spades021:
hi

my knox is :0x1

if I flash 4.3 can I downgrade to mh8 or mi1 or other official firmware with knox bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kydwnas:
Please, read the thread. ..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace_of_spades021:
I read that but my question need to someone experienced it!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
As long as the downgrade has the KNOX boot loader you should be able to flash latest official 4.2.2 firmware
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] worms:
there are any method to get permissive status instead of enforcing on 4.3 (MH8) rom?

I tryed custom kernels but they don't work like is write in first page.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mankvl:
Nice news !!! But sad that with this method you will get custom device status. :/
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Seems to me that Knox is the death of Stock Custom-based ROMs.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leijonasisu:
Guys seriously there's like 7 pages of "Help me with my custom rom/rooting/omgdoihaveKNOX??" bs going on in here. Can we please keep it on topic. There's thousands of us who are confused and frustrated as hell over this ridiculous noxsense (pun lol) of some people going off-topic continuously.

To clear some things up

REALLY quickly:

1. To check if you have a Knox-enabled bootloader just do this: Hold Volume Down + Home + Power and boot your phone into 'DOWNLOAD MODE'!

2. If your Download mode looks like THIS picture below (with additional text in the red rectangle) then you have Knox and rooting/flashing a custom firmware

will

trip the counter.

3. To know what this means, please READ THE FIRST POST (and the entire thread) BEFORE POSTING!

​

Again please keep the help me with/how do I flash 'custom rom',

how do I root?

and other irrelevant personal opinions to

other

threads. This is a Sticky KNOX Q&A thread.

Not meaning to 'backseat mod'

but this is an incredibly excruciating and frustrating issue for many of us who are really waiting for a work around. It's already hard enough to scour the forums for relevant information and etc. without having to read a bunch of irrelevant stuff. I wish the mods would clean everything.. but I guess I've read through it all a few times now anyway.

____________________________________________________________________

I still have some questions (which were not remotely answered in my previous post weeks back):

1. If I just root my phone with the current latest 4.2.2 Knox bootloader and trip my flag (which is currently at 0x0) - I won't be able to OTA update? (whilst on 4.2.2. official)

2. What exactly are Knox specific apps? (Can't see this mentioned anywhere, stuff like corporate secure email etc, Knox locker?)

3. Do we have any further updates on if this is ever going to be a workaround, or are us i9505 users seriously screwed in this matter? - donalgodon has gone from saying "There will

probably

never be a workaround" to "There

never

will be a workaround".

4. So I'm doomed to never be able to root or flash my damn phone if I want to be able to have the chance at an official firmware released by $h!tsung? - I could flash it over myself though, when it's released here or on sammobile

5. Updating officially with Kies or OTA also sometimes trips the flag.... wtf?? - True or false?

6. Is this method only for the Note 3? - It still displays 'custom firmware' wouldn't that still void the warranty or is the warranty seriously just specific to the "Knox warranty 0x0" line? C'mon Samdung aren't stupid (they seem to be beating us so far)

C'mon people in the know, lets crush some myths please! The OP needs clearer information. Tens of thousands of us depend on it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fra234:
Ok, so I have this KNOX on my Galaxy... It means that I can not root my phone or just if I root my phone warranty voids? And what about custom ROMs?

Samsung, I trusted you...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leijonasisu:
Guy above me omfg. Read my post above yours, and the first post and the thread...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
those are all really good questions and i would like to know and cant find the info on any of them either. problem with knox is that basically u can try something once per phone, it doesnt work knox tripped forever, try on another phone. I think most of the brave people have already tested with stuff and all ended up with 0x1 now so information is slowing down with less people willing to go 0x1 in the name of testing.

1) no info on this yet as the latest official update from Samsung was the first to have knox. 4.3 is a leak so its kinda wait and see if people with official device status but 0x1 can update OTA.

2) knox specific apps are part of a corporate software, see: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox if you dont have a workplace that is bring your device to work and hook up to corporate emails it doenst matter.

3) im still holding out hope!

4) root is about now without tripping the flat - see answer to Q6.

5) yes i have seen reports of people performing OTA and tripping the knox flag, dont know how true this is.

6) i dont know if that method as per the OP in that post will work directly however it has been applied to created a pre-rooted stock rom for i9505 in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250824

hope this helps, sorry there are stilla lot of questions and i guess it will need some more testing​
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
I read through that method. It seems that It will keep the flag at 0x0 and root the phone. But it won't revert a 0x1 flag (obviously if the eFuse theory is correct). I see no way of reverting 0x1.

The thing is, it would still trip the flag if you install a custom ROM or recovery. It just lets you root without tripping the flag. But this is great progress.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
yes its the first step and the more we understnad the more we will be able to do. its still early days as this only really hit us a few weeks ago...

im still hopefull that there will be a simple hack that will stop this e.g. changing the text that the bootloader displays, or a hardware mod similar to xbox to save the efuse.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
Changing the text would work to get the phone past the Customer Service representative, but not if they check it physically...

I think only a hardware mod is the way to go since eFuses were implemented in the PS3 and the Xbox. This would be more difficult to do and even less users would be able to actually utilise it.

Btw, Wikipedia states that S4, S3, Note 3, etc have eFuses. Not sure who edited that article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFUSE

I don't remember well now, but didn't the Droid X have an eFuse and it got bypassed?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
I dont think eFuse is 100% confirmed but it is sounding more and more likely. im interested in the whisperings that knox will be applied to older devices e.g. S2, and im surprised that S3 has an eFuse that has sat there not in use for all this time. thats some real planning a head by Samsung!

yeah if there is some way to work around the fuse so the firmware code doesnt trip it that would work but its at such a low level its hard.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackYack13:
So if I have a bootloader with KNOX then flashing anything using Odin will cause the counter to change to 0x1. From what I understand, this will permanently void my warranty (is this the only bad thing about it?). Also, I'm interested in these things:

- will I be able to root the device?

- will I be able to install any custom ROM or kernel like I can with a non-KNOX bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] worms:
With knox when I restore all my app with Titanium Backup I have problems with 'autokill' of app process'.

I found here on XDA a possible fix for my problem.

We have to have root, install 'terminal emulator' from market and type this command:

su

restorecon -R -v /data/data

Thanks to vodkinagdan

please enter on the first post / FAQ.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chickentuna:
No. You can flash stock firmwares on odin as long as you'll be flashing a knox enabled firmware e.g. MH8 and the likes. If you flash any firmwares earlier than that then you'll trigger the knox flag and the flash will fail. Downgrading the bootloader will trigger the knox and of course the flash will fail.

Yes rooting works 100%. Yes you can install custom roms and kernels but as soon as you do that it will trigger the knox flag which of course voids your warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dftimoteo:
Knox 0x1 Vega Rom

Hi all,

a bit of a noob here.read plenty of threads and still have not figured out.

I've got my knox status 0x1. Is it possible to install the latest VEGA leak by DjeMBeY?

Having my status 0x1 will break anything apart from not running Knox apps?

If I install a non Knox FW will it not boot?

Thanks for your help!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
Firstly, the VEGA leak is for the GN3. Secondly, your flag is already tripped so there is no need to use that anyway.

No it won't break anything.

It will boot. But there are reports that wifi and other things break (with 4.3)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
you are fine to install it, just make sure you follow all the instructions. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dftimoteo:
Thanks a lot for the clarification :).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjeMBeY:
VEGA leak for N3???????? Where???? :p

XXUEMJ3 is for S4 I9505... Read more please.... ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
He said VEGA so I thought he meant this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2479952 which is for the N3. But you're right I should've read properly. He meant your ROMs. My bad! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tolek81:
the update was made by IP:

http://myip.ms/view/ip_addresses/1416624384/84.111.249.0_84.111.249.255
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackYack13:
I guess it's about time to switch to AOSP.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daddyspud:
Im aware of the knox issue question can we flash custome roms with the same basebuild threw recovery???? I ainy fused about knox now as samsung screwed me over with a ota update to mh1 fw n updated me fw n bootloader silly of me for installing update dam

Just wana flash custom roms again ???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dftimoteo:
Just flashed it...but no wifi. Is there a Wifi Fix for this MJ3 version? Is it because of the 0x1?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] schlork:
not easy to read your post, may you should try to improve your spelling, at least for the non native English speakers;)

If you are really on MH1, you are still one step away from the new bootloader issue, but don't let the next update apply.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
Saw that. It doesn't mean anything in this age. For all you know the person could be tunneling, or using a proxy, or routing his IP, TOR, etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
I still on old bootloader, it was good time for me to flash AOKP rom.

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Kernel/rec: GE V7/Phil 5.07.6.

SuperSU Pro 1.41, 64GB FAT32 Card
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Root de la vega works on latest android 4.3 leak but i assume if you flash Stock MH8 (or non rooted MH8) users who wants root can use that method, a clean install of the rom and correct CSC should make it work :good:

Since it works on later firmware i'm sure it will work on older firmwares aswell unless the hole came in newer release
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Omgaan:
They will. Some of my sensors were broken and they repaired it. I hoped to get a new device but it seems like i got my old one :( .

For sure i can just speak for the German "datRepair" company.

Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0

Knox Warranty Void: 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] starbucks2010:
Anyone knows if I'll flash the XXUDMH6 modem on my I9505 (XXUDMI1, FoxHound ROM 2.0) with old bootloader, will trigger the void 0x1?

Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackYack13:
So from what I understand, once my phone has a knox-enabled bootloader, I'll still be able to flash any of the stock and vega firmwares that also have this BL, without tripping the knox flag. Am I right?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mankvl:
dunno but i think wifi and smth else won't work if u have new stock firmware with old bootloader.

Yes, but for now u can't use any custom recovery or custom rom, flashing those will trigger the knox void. And after that u will be able to flash only stock or vega FW with the new BL
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fcesario2:
Compatibility

I'm thinking about to flash the WanamLite ROM for my galaxy s4 i9505 and use the "ComaDose v2.1 W/ CrossBreeder V.7.2.13" to improve my performance. I would like to know about the compatibility, is compatible?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hifonicy:
so to understand...

I am on stock 4.2.2 AUT firmware with knox bl... if I flash the new leaked fw 4.3 and than back to an other csc like swc or eur or what so ever... will it void the knox or change the flash counter??????? I mean I will only to flash a different official firmware that is knox enabled... :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
I don't think you are right about that, are you? As I understand it, you will still be able to flash any custom rom after tripping the KNOX flag. You just cannot use KNOX software anymore, and you may have lost your warranty (depending on country).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TubeShaped:
... I really wouldn't overreact and sell your i9505 right now though. It seems that CyanogenMod won't depend on knox bootloaders in the future, so you could just stay on a pre-knox one without any issues. The same for all other AOSP based ROMs, which in my opinion are the way to go sooner or later, if you're into modding and timely OTA updates for as long as possible.

- The HTC One is a nice handset but the device is heavy and big compared to it's screen size, the camera sucks, especially on AOSP roms. I owned one but sold it.

- If the leaked images of Nexus 5 are real, it's bottom and top bezels are very thick for no particular reason, also the battery is smaller than i9505

- The latest Sony Phones are very open for development but I really don't want a phone with glass on it's back, it doesn't make any sense to me and cracks way too fast.

- Maybe the OPPO n1 will be an option, but it's a huge phablet, not a phone.

Remember I'm realling thinking from an AOSP focused perspective.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunhillpanda:
Inquiry :confused:

After reading tru, I have a i9505 with i9505DXUDMH6 and it is has knox in it. Want to double confirm on this, if i root it with CF-autoroot via odin, will it trigger and set knox to 0x1? And to confirm this, so if i wan to obtain root on MH6, I have no other choice but to trigger knox to 0x1? :crying:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Any root de la Vega for S4 like on Note 3?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Thanks!

So if I root with Vega the S4 will keep Knox 0x0 even if I flash a custom rom or kernel later? Or there are particular custom roms that work?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

No.

Flashing Vega gives you root only, and 0 x 0

Flashing any custom ROM/kernel/recovery will trip the Knox counter to 0 x 1

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
S4 rooting is so complicated :eek:

So if you get 0x1 and you want to return to a 0x0 state you root with Vega (warranty repair purpose) right?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

No.

Vega only keeps counter at 0x0 (if you already have 0x0 ),and enables you to have stock ROM with root.

Once you have triggered 0x1,there is no way (at present) to return to 0x0

:(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tanjiajun_34:
So basically with this knox bootloader, you cannot root (except vega method), cannot flash custom rom (CM as well) and cannot flash custom kernel? So basically there is nothing the user can do nothing except root, am I right to say that? Or is there alternative ways to do?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
You are right about those things, if you are only interested in the KNOX flag.

If the KNOX flag is set to 0x1. You can do almost anything. The only thing that doesn't work then, is the KNOX framework software (which isn't very interesting anyway for private people - only for companies). The other thing is that in some countries you will loose your warranty because of it. That really is what all the fuss is about: The warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
yes you are right. if it didnt affect warranty no one would really care that much.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
My scenario:

1. I was on MGA prerooted by [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION]

2. OTA updated by stupidity to MH8; checked in DL mode, Knox 0x0:D

3. Flashed Vega MH8 prerooted by [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION], Knox 0x0, everything working flawlessly!

Very happy I didn't end with Knox 0x1, but can't even think I have to use TW for year and a half if I want to retain my warranty!!!:(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Piksou:
"some newer 4.2.2 software that's supplied with the knox bootloader has been repacked by devs to not use the new bootloader and it all works fine you can still keep up to date."

So we have "pure" stock re-packaged? That works? Any links? I haven't seen any here or in the dev section.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mankvl:
Yes if you trip Knox void you can flash custom recovery and ROM. But to ppl who don't want to trip Knox void for now they can only use pre-rooted stock firmware, flashing anything else will trigger Knox void and imo that is bad.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
Yes, but that is not what you said. You said that you will only be able to flash stock or vega FW after the knox flag has been triggered.

Just to make it clear for readers of this thread. That is not true.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
For people's info - Security-Enhanced Android: NSA Edition
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mankvl:
I wrote:

What I meant if you don't want Knox void don't flash any custom recovery or ROM if u have Knox void do what you want it's triggered and you might not get your warranty ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunhillpanda:
Thanks for the info :) but some questions, do i nid to to flash the VEGA ROM 1st via odin and then later on proceed with the Rooting (Vega method), or i can use vega rooting procedures in stock rom with knox 0x0 on it? Kinda blur as Vega rom is pre-rooted meaning the i dun have to root the rom after i flashed Vega rom via odin..? or i have to vega root after flashing of vega rom? :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Look HERE

All the installation information is in the first post.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunhillpanda:
icic, so I need to flash the Vega rom in order to have root. :) Coz i was alil confused whether i can use vega root on any other knox enabled stock firmware. haha.. thanks :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] assanches:
Knox Instalation

Good Afternoon,

I flashed the VEGA ROM(MJ3) and root with the VEGA files. My Knox Flag Still in 0x0, but when I attempt to install the Knox (I alredy download 177 Mb files) I put my own passwords, PIN and the Knox stay on "preparing for instalation" and don't do anything more. Stay on this screen ... Anything had this problem? How do i solve it?

Thanks, (Sorry for my english)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] livefortoday:
no imei no baseband version

Hi

after 7 days of flawless use,my genuine i9505 flipped on me.

I got no imei and no baseband version and no cell network.

I'm on stock - so I couldn't backup the efs dir, (root required).

what can I do ?

thanks for any advice.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
Hi try the general Q&A thread. They will be better equipped to help u :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brendo:
Spoke to Samsung Australia today and they said warranty should still be fine for hardware related fixes (ie not bricked device) with knox void, but will be judged on case-by-case basis. However, as part of the work, they will update to latest firmware and may charge for that. You can request to not have firmware upgraded, but they don't always adhere to that

Seems that because of Australia consumer law, they have to cover that stuff as it is not really related regardless of 'warranty contracts'
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ssneoh:
I understand that using Vega style root will makes my Knox Warranty stay at 0x0 but status will become custom. My question is, if I root it 0x0 / Custom. If I reflash my stock rom later, will the 0x0 remains and the status will become official back ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
Yes!

This will even happen automatically when Samsung releases an update, if you leave OTA (over the air) update on.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Which is exactly why I don't do that. I don't trust what Samdung rams down out throats with each new "upgrade," and I suspect that Knox is only the beginning. The bootloader will likely get "safer" with each update, which will mean inevitably more restrictions for flashers like us. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if we found that future bootloaders were completely locked down.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Knox related:

Is there any functional problem with a flash back and forth from CM/AOSP to Stock with Knox bootloader? I realize that status will be 0x1, but if we don't care, does everything work if/when going back and forth? :confused:

I might flash the latest 4.3 just to check it out and get the camera firmware, but I doubt I could stand to stay on it very long.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donalgodon:
Does the new Knox bootloader change the EFS folder format the way that updates did on the S3? :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
Honestly I'm not sure but from what I've seen on the forum I don't think it causes an issue, it's only a flag
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
I can't see why not. Only thing is downgrading can trip the Knox flag