yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
No worries:D

In terms of the phone warranty, it is currently very debatable as to whether it is void or not so cannot really comment....,

But yes...all it means in terms of KNOX locker/app on the phone....you will not be able to use it if KNOX is 0x1:cyclops:

There is also a KNOX Discussion thread HERE
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illikkalshahid:
Doubt about knox warranty

i have read alot about knox warranty bit issues, I didn't root my phone because of this. I am now on 4.3 with knox bootloader.. My doubt is "if I reflash again the same stock 4.3, will it trigger the knox flag?"
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andriod_army:
Red and yellow text on boot

i have noticed that after install a costum rom i have a yellow and red text that shows up on the screen the says "samsung galaxy S4" on boot. what are those writing and more importantly how do i get ride of them.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
Why would you do that? I'm just curious, no sarcasm in my question?

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illikkalshahid:
because i bought my phone from UAE, lives in india, the official update can not install properly. Means I need to download the Firmware from sammobile.com and flash it through odin. I will have to do the same for upcoming Kitkat update.. If that flashing triggers knox flag,

my whole patience for living without rooting would be wasted.. so want to know plss...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zesh_ii@yahoo.com:
hi

i cant understand
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AHMAD JB:
Can`t access root in my phone

HI guys i`ve had updated my i9500 to android 4.3 update and i was looking for how can i root my new firmware .

so i just started and used most of threads that was about rooting phones but i could n`t find a way to root my new firmware that is android 4.3

as i used the cf-root or cofface `s and ... solutions to root my phone but just the superSU just appears and i cant use root needed stuffs !!!!!!!

do you know what`s the problem ????

by the way my phones`s baseband is = i9500xxuemj5

tnx
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaspar737:
If I recieve my GT-i9505 with knox enabled bootloader, I am screwed and can never install custom roms and kernels?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
No. You can still instal custom anything but you will loose your warranty. And it's possible that some problems with wifi or other things may occur after tripping knox to 0x1.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaspar737:
And the wifi problems cant be fixed by custom roms after knox flag is triggered?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rubiks01:
Yes with à specific modem ;)

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9505 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoseunten:
Hi. Have s4 stock Rom. Till a few days my device reboots automaticaly and ands in a bootloop. Only hard reset can stop this. Have to reset it a few times till full reset. Anyone know why the phone suddenly reboots and ends in a bootloop? How to mange this ?. THX for your help
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raydel507:
opinion of the new samsung bootloader

i just not installing the official samsung rom this new bootloader its not for me :good:i already mesed up my note II with the official rom :( so I'm not doing the same with my galaxy s4 I9500:laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
Hi,

You may want to re-direct your question HERE :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
hi

if i have 4.2.2 and then directly flash a custom rom that is knox free , then i have knox bootloader?if the answer is no , so is it possible to go back to 4.2.2?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
Yes, you can do whatever you want until you install knoxed bootloader. After that you can't go back to bootloader without knox, because it will brick your device.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] creative.crap:
I can't decide....

Happy new year to everyone!

Like i said in the title i don't really know if i shoudl install a costum rom or not.

The problem is that i dont know what really happens while installing a costum rom.

My phone came with 4.3 pre-installed and just received the latest DBT-Update some weeks ago.

1) First step will be flashing "CWM" or something like that. By doing THIS i will *activate* the knox counter. I already know that and i don't care about (woiding?) my warranty. But my question is, if there are any other problems that came with flashing "CWM" while having Knox in Background?

2) My second step will be flashing a costum rom. I'm a total newbie so this is what i understand.

Flashing a costum recovery will set knox-flag to 0x1. Currently no way of return.

Flashing a costum rom via cmw won't be a problem, because the knoxenabled-bootloader is not beeing touched.

If there is a problem with WiFi or whatelse i does have the option to flash anotgher modem?

So i can flash anything with cwm and go back to the stock rom i had before. The only negative point is that the flag will be set?

Hope i understand it correct.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hybridmax:
Yes exactly, the Knox Counter jumps to 0x1 when a recovery is flashed. if you do then a custom rom flashes, nothing will happen to you;)

If you have a wifi trouble, then flashe first a different kernel, but I think you'll have no problems with the wifi.

It is always good to flash the modem which matches the rom. let's say you have a custom rom based on the XXUEML1 then it is recommended to flash the modem ML1 except your reception is poor, then you can flash prefer another
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EclipseX:
hi, i need some help from xda users :p

I've galaxy s4 from yoigo operator ( spain ) with original 4.3

I already unlock by buying a code.

Now I want to get ride off yoigo things....like install an original rom without operators stuffs

If possible deodex and rooted :P

anyone have solution for this without triguer knox to 0x1?

best regards to everone :cowboy::good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] creative.crap:
Yeah, actually thanks for replying so fast.

First i got in trouble with flashing the costum recovery because i forget about the old recovery and some data in system/etc folder.

Re-flashed recovery, works fine.

The strange thing is that i only flashed the rom. No RR until now, no Bugs. Wifi is working fine for me. Signal is working too.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A|ex:
will rooting +1 to knox on a standard rom?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hybridmax:
no only by root not, but once you want to flash a custom recovery
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GueDS:
Are u guys being sucessfull on installing the GE on devices with konx 0x1 ??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anthony13:
Hi,

I just buyed a i9505 galaxy s4, and i'm affraid to see my phone was delivered with knox, although i don't update my phone via kies or OTA yet

when *#1234#, I see

AP = I9505XXUEMJ5

CP = I9505XXUEMJ5

CSC = I9505OXAEMJ5

is this rom rootable without knox 0x1 ? I just have to change my CSC with CSC changer

thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GueDS:
As stated in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2470635 unfortunately you have the bootloader with KNOX

So, if you root it with different methods you will trigger the knox 0x1 or not, see the link above, item 4.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andyfactor:
Knox Bootloader Removal?

Everybody across the all the Knox related forums seems to be more focused with being able to reset the warranty counter, as well as achieve FULL root access in which knox security does not interfere. I know for the time being the Knox bootloader cannot be removed from the device, but my question is can it be removed later on? I'm concerned that this is a permanent thing. Besides, wouldn't the removal of the bootloader solve the warranty counter issues as well as removing the deeply embedded security that is causing so many issues?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A|ex:
andy you have pretty much asked the million pound question similar to will they ever find the cure for cancer.

There is always an answer to a question however the time it takes you to reach that answer is a matter of time and time is something some people do not have. chainfire has produced a few updates on what he has found however it might not be what you are looking for.

Personally i am unsure what the issue is? Knox is there for security and if you mess around with the phone in a way samsung do not want you, it will void your warranty. It protects them and yourself. This however does not prevent you from doing so, its just a security precaution to make you think twice.

I am sure it would also aid the service centres in dealing with the amount of phones that come back that have been customised, overclocked etc.

"with great power comes great responsibility"
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
If KNOX is on the device you can assume you will not be able to remove it. KNOX was created by Samsung and General Dynamics to have an NSA approved device that is tamper resistant. It is certified as such.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
yep and ever since its come out even people like Chainfire have given up and called it no hope at removal / resetting the fuse :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
Pretty sure this has nothing to do with KNOX....I see you have also posted in the S4 Help Thread to which I have responded;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] creative.crap:
With "GE" you mean Google Edition Roms?

Yeah, actually jamal2367's rom does work.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] birdr:
Hi,

I am on a pre-knox boot loader, running CM10.1.3.

I use my phone for both personal and corporate purposes (using good for enterprise), so I think I care about the Knox flag.

I am thinking about upgrading to one of the more recent 4.4 custom firmwares (cm11, or one of the ge roms).

I understand from this thread that I can flash custom firmwares that do not contain Knox using a recent custom recovery, and this will both install firmware and keep the old boot loader.

- Is this correct?

However, it seems that many new ROMs may require upgraded gsm / lte modems (otherwise there are sound / WiFi / other issues)

- is this correct?

And if so:

- Does flashing the latest modems trigger Knox?

- Or require a boot loader upgrade which implies Knox?

Are there any other issues I should be considering before upgrading to a custom 4.4 rom to avoid Knox?

Thanks for the help.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fKm:
What is the last knox_free VD2 firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Repulsa:
Hi mate :)

1.Yes thats Correct. You can flash any 4.3/4.4 Via custom recovery and keep your old bootloader.

2.You need to flash 4.3 GSM modems In order to fix any dropping issue.

-Flashing latest modem wont trigger any knox ..

-flashisng a stock 4.3 rom from samsung then your gonna get a new bootloader.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LightsPlease123:
I read something about a saferoot that works on the galaxy s4 4.3 but I'm not sure where I saw it. Has it been confirmed that the s4 can be rooted from 4.3 without tripping knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndoidTab:
Yes, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OmarManLover:
about knox resetting

what after I9505XXUFNA1_I9505OXAFNA1_I9505XXUFNA1_OXA ?

still no hope ? or what?

I always say thier is no way to reset the knox on i9505 or note 3 , it's like an GOD feature

shall we give up or no?

galaxy note3 may has eFuse , but S4 ?!!!!!!

please say your last word , because I hate me S4 without knox feature

I did root my S4 on 4.3 with st-****kkin way and did lead to make my knox status 0x1

and that dissabled the knox app

I just wanna run the knox app

thnk you
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VuBoo:
I'm Knox free, am i allowed to flash any modem i want?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VuBoo:
Thanks mate :)

So that means: bootloader has nothing to do with modem? (Nothing to do if i have old BL?)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Correct.

Modem has nothing to do with bootloader.

You are safe to flash new modem on old bootloader.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VuBoo:
Perfect!

Thank you for your helpful & fast reply!

Have a good day mate :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph.miki:
Hi to all!

I have one question! What will be hapend if I install old bootloaders? (I have bootloaders with KNOX 0x1)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Your phone will break.

Either sound or wifi or both will not work.

Or it simply will not boot.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph.miki:
Thanks for answer. Waht think aboute this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2539904
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

I do not think that thread has shown much progress in this matter.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph.miki:
Thanx. U are vey nice to people.

But I can bealiv that is no way to reset to 0x0!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

At the moment ,it seems that the only way to get 0x0, is to get your motherboard replaced by service center.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph.miki:
Thanks for replay!;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NingaR:
is there a way of Receiving OTA on Rooted i9505 with JB 4.3 and knoxed 0x1?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Installed wanam xpose, it will asked you to download xpose installer. Done some settings in both xpose and reboot. Once you got system status officialvin setting. OTA update with no problem. I had been updated twice.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
Some question about 4.4.2

1 - does 4.4.2 have knox bootloader?

2 - if i have rooted stock rom 4.3 , is there any problem during flash 4.4.2 with odin?

3 - if i have custom rom base in 4.3 knox free(loke omega , phoenix , echo and etc) then want to flash 4.4.2 with odin , is there ang problem during installation?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magikmichael:
1. Yes

2. No

3. Dont know, think not. But you will get the new knox bootloader i think.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn GT-I9505 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndoidTab:
3 - To be sure, remove bootloader! : http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benbird7:
I finally get the s4 back from Samsung after they've now had it for the third time as it keeps coming back from them in factory mode as I sent it away with nothing in the efs folder... (I did do a backup but couldn't get it restored..) Fortunately bootloader was non Knox when I sent it. I can bet your bottom dollar it'll come back with it with the new one on it.

Haven't had my s4 now since the 3rd of Dec and got a s2 off eBay to keep me going, I must say when I get the s4 back I'm inclined to stick the s4 on eBay and keep the s2. As I can't do anything custom on the s4 without tripping the counter and voiding the warranty. On the s2 I'm Running cm10.2 and battery life is much better than my s4 was (regardless of all the tweaking on the s4.. Greenify battery friendly kernels etc).

The s2 is a Great phone. I remember when I first got my s3 and was boxing my s2 to sell on eBay and actually thought I prefer the look and feel of the s2. Also hugely disappointed in Samsung. This whole latest bootloader adds headache when I get the phone back to even bother try rooting again through fear of warranty and resale of it.

Battery life on the i9100 is a world apart from all that juice sapping hardware on the s4 with the bigger screen with an ironed out firmware that just.... Works.

---------- Post added at 12:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 AM ----------

I think I might sell the s2 and s4 combined figure of 350 and go get myself a new non Samsung handset. Sorry but fed up reading up on his now. It's disturbing my beauty sleep and I haven't even got my s4 back yet!!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
The link does not work.pls correct it
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
Thanks man , it opens now
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
I think this question is about to knox and android 4.3

How to see the flash counter number of our phone?

Is there any way to reset that number?(the triangle does not work in 4.3)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badaman123:
Hi guys

Very much a newbie here so sorry if this has already been asked. I flashed the leaked kitkat rom yesterday and decided i wanted to go back to a cleaner looking rom, so i installed a kitkat rom on here which was based on the nexus. I then came across this knox warranty issue. I went into download mode and i have been tripped with 0x1. What are my options now. I know my warranty is gone but unclear about current or future updates.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndoidTab:
You're welcome!:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badaman123:
Anybody?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] latouffe:
Your warranty is void. I dont think there will be any solution in the future.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badaman123:
Thanks for the reply but not to fussed about warranty. Just want to know my options for the future.

I am on the kitkat bootloader does that mean i cannot install a custom rom with a older bootloader?

Can i install future ota updates or roms with newer bootloaders?

Can i still dual boot roms as long as i have the kitkat bootloader .

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azuziel:
question 1, no

question 2, yes, use wanam xposed to fake official status and put supersu in survival mode

question 3, depends on phone, if i377m then yes. If i377 then yes but only with safestrap and approved roms.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badaman123:
Thanks for the replies.

I will look up wanam xposed,is it straight forward? Is 1377 relevant to me as i have a galaxy s4? I guess it does because this is a s4 thread. :cyclops:

How do i find out what 1377 i have?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] warraserda:
Hi guys!

I have read about knox and I have some questions:

1- We can, with kn0x0ut, install custom roms, but these roms are based in official ones?

2- If 1 is true, it means we will be always limited by samsung's version of android?

I thinking about buying this phone now, but if 2 is true it means the Galaxy S4 will be stucked in kitkat... :(

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan6183:
Step-by-step: S4 to newest firmware with root and KNOX 0x0

Hi,

My brand new S4 is on Android 4.2.2 / Build JDQ39.I9505XXUDMH5, which already has the new KNOX Bootloader according to the initial thread.

Anyhow, I think I found a way to get to the newest firmware with root and KNOX still at 0x0.

My step-by-step guide:

1. Root original Firmware XXUDMH5 with Kingo

2. Install Mobile Odin Pro

3. Download most current firmware for GT-I9505 Germany - DBT from samfirmware:

Model: GT-I9505

Country: Germany

Version: Android 4.3

Changelist: 2082040

Build date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:06:44 +0000

Product Code: DBT

PDA: I9505XXUEMKE

CSC: I9505OXAEMKE

MODEM: I9505XXUEMKE

4. Flash and root the new firmware with Mobile Odin Pro 3.85 with the following options checked:

- Everroot

- Inject SuperSU

- Inject Mobile Odin

Can anybody confirm that this will work? Or did I miss something?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nasksnake:
Hi everybody, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 bought in 4.3 and already have knox in so, what is the best-and-sure solution without enable the flag counter ? and, when it's rooted, if I need to unroot for warranty, how I can I do? And what's the goal of using xposed 0x0 sh ? If it's rooted ...

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan6183:
Ok, step 1 - 3 were successful.

My phone is rooted and Mobile Odin Pro 3.85 installed. :)

But now step 4: Will Mobile Odin Pro 3.85 keep the 0x0 when I flash this firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anubius:
How is this different from just flashing the official firmware thought Odin which should not trigger Knox and then root it. You already have KNOX bootloader so nothing to loose or I am not getting something.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan6183:
Yes, I thought of that. But since I am not sure, if Kingo will also be able to root the new official firmware, would Mobile Odin Pro's root feature not be the safer way to keep root and 0x0?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stefan6183:
Updating the Firmware with Mobile Odin Pro to Android 4.3/MKE left me with a non-working WLAN since the baseband was still on MH5.

I tried to fix the WLAN with wifi_fix_for_MJ2.rar, which did not work.

Checking the KNOX warranty bit in download mode I found out, that I am now also 0x1 :(

Since I had no way back, I thought f*** KNOX and flashed the firmware again completely with ODIN 3 which made my WLAN work again.

Then I installed TWRP Recovery, rooted with CF-Auto-Root and reset the system status and flash counter with TriangleAway.

Now I am a happy S4 user with KNOX 0x1. :cyclops:

Anyway, I don't think I could have lived without a recovery for long. :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThiagoRFA:
Is there anyway to root my S4 GT-I9505 device w/o triggering the KNOX?

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radiocaf:
This is how I did it, and it didn't trip KNOX on my S4 GT-I9505 running 4.3.

http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/12/Safe-Root-Android-4.3-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note-No-Warranty-Void.html

My problem now is now I've unrooted, how do I reactivate OTA updates as my phone keeps saying it's been modified and thus Software Updates are disabled. Can I flash the official/stock firmware/ROM that I am currently running again using Odin and not trip the Knox Warranty flag?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svd1977:
:confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThiagoRFA:
Thanks dude.

[MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION]

What are the steps before rooting? I know a backup is required to make sure I can rollback my device if something goes wrong, right? But how is an NANDroid possible if I don't have root? What do you guys recommend to use to backup the mobile while not rooted?

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nasksnake:
I think you have to run an app like Titanium backup (you have to re-root) and wipe Syscope's data (it's a system app) and you can uninstall root then

edit: [MENTION=5664651]radiocaf[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThiagoRFA:
Was this reply for my question? I guess it doesn't answer my question so no :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste9326:
Hi guys,

sorry for the repeated question but i don't understand what type of rom can can be flashed or not on my phone.

I have gt i9505, version build: jss15j.i9505xxuemke.

Can i flash any type of rom,including the new 4.4?

Thanks in advanced!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anubius:
[MENTION=4456919]Stefan6183[/MENTION] Sorry your story ended up like that.

This is exactly what happened to me. Welcome to the dark side of Samsung Knox.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndoidTab:
Info from a post about KitKat:rolleyes: :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49546936&postcount=133:eek::eek:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simonbigwave:
Noob question, will saferoot work without trip knox for S4 GT-I9505 on latest Samsung 4.4kitkat test Firmware (FNA5)? (kingoapp which worked well before , informed me last week that they r NOT 4.4 kitkat ready yet... )