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[Nexus 5 General] Johmama:
You know, just because you start your post with something like 'No-one will change their mind. Let's all not worry about what others will do' and end your post with 'Can we all just get along?' doesn't mean your post is immune to those stipulations. Just because I'll be buying the Nexus 5 to replace my Nexus 4 as my main phone doesn't mean I live at home and don't have financial priorities as your post implies (or rather, explicitly states). That simply means I love the Nexus line, want to follow the development community to the new device, am excited for the new hardware, and have a stable enough job to afford a $400 purchase.

FYI: I mainly use my phone 'as a phone, and text, play the odd game, surf the web and forums' and I'm still insanely excited for the phone, and plan on being greatly impressed. I guess what I'm saying is, practice what you preach. Different people will buy this phone for a plethora of different reasons, and will be impressed/satisfied for reasons other than it being a powerhouse.
[Nexus 5 General] Nickodarius:
Agreed. It is a decent upgrade, especially adding LTE. I just wish I wasn't still on Verizon so I could get one. :-[
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
This. I share the exact sentiment.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
There were similar threads before the N4 release. And a lot of those saying not upgrading were first in line to get one on release date! ;) :D
[Nexus 5 General] hikarugo:
People should stop guessing whether it'll a huge or a small upgrade since the phone is not even introduced yet.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I'm getting an N4 soon....to replace my S2. That's an upgrade for me.

So I probably have no business in this thread anyway.

Apologies.

Squabble away! ;)

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[Nexus 5 General] ctbear:
I have financial priorities and I will be first in line to get the N5. I just have a stable and well paid job to support my spending. And how did you come up with the conclusion "N4 owners with money to burn [probably live at home]"?

Yes I can see the (very noticeable) difference between a 1080p screen and a 720p screen. I had an HTC One before I went back to the N4. Oh and the HTC One has a 4.7" screen. I can't imagine how big of a difference it will be on a 5" screen.

I don't play games on my phone but a better GPU will help anything that requires rendering. We might be reaching a point of diminishing return but an improvement is an improvement.

I watch a lot of videos on my portable devices so yes, I want that extra storage. This helps a lot when apps are getting larger and larger as well.

So yes, I will be very, very happy the N5. And I guarantee you I'm not the only one.

By that logic they shouldn't need the N4 either. I'm sure an HTC Hero will satisfy those requirements. Sell the N4, get an older phone. Profit.

This is the only thing that I can agree on. Oh and while it is nice of you that you are trying to help with battery problems, it gets really annoying if it is getting spammed over and over again. Maybe it's just me.
[Nexus 5 General] cipsaz:
All I care is

LTE

Better battery life

Faster battery charge (this is pain in the ass)

Better camera

If the N4 would have the LTE, then I wouldn't even bother.. I am so in love with the back glass. But the N4 still struggles in these areas.
[Nexus 5 General] Marcb:
What about all that talk about "humans CANNOT distinguish 'ppi' over 300"?

I never had a 1080p phone, so I cannot really tell, but I've seen a Galaxy S4 in a store, and really, there was no difference from my Nexus 4 screen... I couldn't see the pixels on both screens...
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
if u cant distinguish between a 1080p video and a 360p video then u might wanna get ur eyes checked out
[Nexus 5 General] Marcb:
I'm talkin about a 4.7" and 5" screen with HD and FHD resolutions that gives over 300 ppi...

nothing to do with 1080p or 360p...
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
Marketing nonsense.

The gs4 screen is fake HD. It has only two subpixels per pixel instead of three. Which is why depending on the color it looks grainy. The note 3 is even worse because there is even more space between the pixels

You don't need to be able to see the individual pixels from a normal viewing distance to be able to see the difference in sharpness.

You can see the pixels on your HD TV from the couch either but you could see the different between it and a ultra HD TV.

Compared your Nexus 4 to a HTC one or another proper full HD screen. Samsung displays are garbage.
[Nexus 5 General] kanariya:
I'm getting the n5.

with this aggressive pricing from Google I just can't resist.

there's no competition at all at this price point.

gifting my n4 to my dad

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 5 General] OuncE718:
Nexus 5/Nexus 4 2013 (man on left) and Nexus 4 (woman on right)
[Nexus 5 General] uchihakurtz:
3000 Mah battery and 32 GB, say wut?? Shut up and take my money (when I have it)!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-N...different-battery-size-for-each-model_id48068
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
I can't deal with this stupidity at the moment without breaking the language rules of the xda.

Not your post, but those baboons who wrote that.
[Nexus 5 General] b1337:
Lol man I love your posts!! No homo
[Nexus 5 General] uchihakurtz:
The phonearena guys? :/
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
That would be them. The author of the article and site as a whole for publishing it.
[Nexus 5 General] cas8180:
In other news an "anonymous tipster" just posted that there will be a print money button located on the back just below the camera.
[Nexus 5 General] MrPhilo:
Dimension is wrong, it's the same size as the Nexus 4 if that is the dimension
[Nexus 5 General] uchihakurtz:
Oh right, didn't read the whole article, only the 32 GB and 3000 Mah part caught my attention, LOL. But it'd be cool if it's true though.
[Nexus 5 General] can6rxw:
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 5 General] maulich:
What's funny is that manual is probably fake. But for some reason it doesn't stop ignorant baboons like kj2112 from chiming in their ignorant opinions.....do us all a favor...get a new IPhone and go away......and yes...kj2112 your SIG is lame too.
[Nexus 5 General] dito33:
I wonder if OTG will be supported.
[Nexus 5 General] Zehlek:
Just flash a different radio. I use Hybrid 33/84 and I get LTE
[Nexus 5 General] WestAussie:
Ruiiiiiiight.... You know there are different kinds of LTE bands right? The Nexus 4 chip is only good for one of them...
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
Yeah because flashing a old radio ( Or a hybrid old new radio) will magically add in the new hardware required for LTE to work on ANY band besides 4.

Never mind everybody else in the world that doesn't have LTE on band 4 in their market / country. And even if they do their carrier doesn't use that spectrum. You have it, and that's what matters so that user shouldn't upgrade if they want LTE
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Please tell me you were trolling with this post and didn't seriously think you were sharing something new. I even see a real dinosaur walking in the background.
[Nexus 5 General] failly:
Don't know if already posted, also has nothing to do with N5, more with 4.4.
[Nexus 5 General] manpildo:
There is/are threads for kitkat, so why did you post it here?

I don't quite get what some people expect from it. It is going to be a typical hardware upgrade like they are every year, what else is there to expect? Remember all we have to base our opinions on now are shady rumours and leaks, life has taught me not to trust any of them no matter how truthful they seem, so we still have no clue whether it will sport any new or special features or what its pricing is going to be. I personally am satisfied with my N4 and unless something happens to it, I will be staying on it. But if people want to upgrade, why criticize them? It's their money and their decisions, what does it have to do with any of you? A little less arrogance people.
[Nexus 5 General] iPathik:
No, The Kit-Kat threads were closed by the mods.
[Nexus 5 General] fahadsul3man:
read somewhere the 32 gb model will come with 3000mAh battery hope thats true
[Nexus 5 General] biggiestuff:
Man dilemma dilemma. 32gb and 3000mah battery for 100 more. I doubt it's true though. It would be too easy to wait and get the 3000mah battery and swap it into the 16gb.
[Nexus 5 General] fahadsul3man:
why ? it has OIS ? just megapixels doesnt mean its going to have awesome camera
[Nexus 5 General] KidCarter93:
No, the KitKat threads in device forums were closed. That'll be due to the fact that it's not relevant to the device in question (regardless of whether said device will receive the 4.4 update or not).

There are, however, threads in the General forum regarding KitKat and that would be a much more suitable place for such content.
[Nexus 5 General] dsbrohan:
People are already bashing the specs and there has been nothing but leaked pictures and a manual. Specs mean nothing until its been announced and all of this hype over rumors is just obnoxious. Go home.
[Nexus 5 General] mattdm:
If it's true, the device dimensions would probably be slightly different.
[Nexus 5 General] Ascertion:
FCC documentation is pretty solid info. The government has to approve of the bands used and the setup before it hits markets, so once it passes FCC it's essentially the final product.
[Nexus 5 General] frankbel:
They are, according to phonearena

LG 821 138.5 x 70.9 x 9.1 mm

LG 820 137.87 x 69.17 x 8.59 mm
[Nexus 5 General] mattdm:
Can you link to that? Neither of those seem right to me...too tall.
[Nexus 5 General] p51d007:
I love it when people say that a 12-14mp smartphone camera is better than an 8mp camera.

Obviously people who say that know NOTHING about photography, image sensors, electronics or common sense.

It's like watching that commercial, where an adult is sitting around a table with a bunch of 4 year olds, and asks them

which is better...more or less.

If you pack X number of sensors into a sensor, then change it and add 8 million more, into the same size area, the

laws of physics will simply tell you that it isn't going to work, unless you do some software tricks. Packing more

sensors, causes a change of the signal to NOISE ratio, not to mention the problem with light scatter onto adjacent

sensors. If you have good optics, not bad glass, an 8MP sensor will usually out do a 14 MP or higher sensor,

ESPECIALLY in low/poor light conditions. The only real advantage of a 41MP sensor, like on the Lumina, is

CROPPING. Remember the ad where a girl in the back row of a concert is snapping photos of a band on stage,

then zooms in, crops it to the drummer, emails that to friends? They think the photo was taken on the front row,

not from the nose bleed section. THAT is the only real advantage of a high MP count. But, to achieve that, you need

a GOOD optical lens, low noise and a larger sensor. I've been shooting photos since the late 60's. Heck, my dSLR

has only a 14MP sensor, but it is TEN TIMES the size of what's in a phone.

The other thing to consider, an 8mp sensor, given a 200-300DPI print density, under normal lighting conditions, would

support a print size of around A3 (11x17). Who the hell these days prints that large, from a cameraphone?

I bet 99% of those that take photos these days, non professionally, send them to Facebook, Twitter, email etc...

they don't print! So why join the larger is better debate? Think back to the 4 year olds sitting around the table...

because that's how we think, more is better, but, in reality, it isn't.
[Nexus 5 General] icyknight:
It should be supported if this is based on LG G2, since LG G2 supports USB OTG. LG Optimus G (not pro) didn't support USB OTG and therefore likely Nexus 4 was also not supported. It had something to do with hardware limitation with power in the usb port. There was workaround with custom kernel and external usb power.

If it is supported, the automatic storage mount found in stock GS4 , One and G2 will likely disable similar to nexus 7. workaround would be "Media Importer" apk or root apps.
[Nexus 5 General] frankbel:
I guess you are right. But you see, there are so many rumors, that it is difficult to figure out.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...equivalent-causes-even-more-confusion_id47580

http://phandroid.com/2013/09/11/lg-d821-fcc-filing/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Poss...Fi-certification-with-gigabit-support_id47500
[Nexus 5 General] JeffreyNijnatten:
Bluetooth

The manuel said Bluetooth 3.0 and not 4.0...

Why is that?
[Nexus 5 General] Cronis:
some of the content is copied from the Nexus 4 manual such as the dimensions and bluetooth info
[Nexus 5 General] Maneth:
The myce.com log said that 4.4 will support OTG ;)
[Nexus 5 General] JeffreyNijnatten:
Oh okay,

Thankss
[Nexus 5 General] hbksabhi:
Dont worry about battery ... HTC one came with 2300 Mah and was fine

1> Nexus will have more efficient cpu

2>more efficient os 4.4

3>same resolution

So i Think Battery Will be Better than HTC one(which i think has a much better batttery life than N4)...

Chill Guys
[Nexus 5 General] larrygeary:
A few years ago I saw a detailed comparison of a 6MP digital SLR and a similar film camera, both at ISO 100. The 6MP SLR was equal to or better than the film camera, so that is my baseline. 8MP should be fine, provided it is a high quality sensor and paired with excellent optics. You can make an 8"x10" print, or larger, with that. If that isn't sufficient, you might be better off with a dedicated camera. I have a 13MP camera smaller (but thicker) than my phone, and it's a couple of years old.

Regarding LTE, I hope there is a Verizon version or Verizon support. Only Verizon has good LTE coverage in my area.
[Nexus 5 General] brizey:
<<<crossing fingers>>>

<<<and toes and elbows and earlobes and...>>>
[Nexus 5 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
If any more of the trolling and or bashing to one another....continues, you can Stand by. Lets just keep it peaceful as the Community waits for the Development/Release to happen for this device....Thread Cleaned.
[Nexus 5 General] maxgenesis:
yes 4.4.0 kit-kat for it.

but until today i do not see the changelogs release to public for kit kat.
[Nexus 5 General] akash.mahadeshwar:
Battery

A new site i visted showed that the mobile will b launched in 16gb n 32 gb.The 16gb model will have 2300mah n 32 will have 3000mah.
[Nexus 5 General] dan9550:
So... I'm going to be different here, i am looking forward to the Nexus 5, the leaked specs i am taking with a grain of salt for now i took a look at the leaked service manual. To be honest i thought parts of it looked a little fake, i could be wrong i could be right i guess we will see. Either way whether is a big upgrade from the Nexus 4 or not (i don't care). Getting one of these over the holidays will be much better than my S III which has a shattered screen, and likes to corrupt its data partitions if you turn it on after its gone flat :\

I look forward to an official announcement in the coming weeks :D
[Nexus 5 General] Jimmy2u:
Just wishing to have a better battery life,4.4 android Kitkat OS and LTE support on Verizon...:) on Nexus 5..because these were the major things which disturbed me a lot in Nexus 4 which were the battery problem and no support for LTE...:(
[Nexus 5 General] EdZ:
An SLR and a phone camera are not comparable just by the number of pixels.The sensor in a typical phone camera is 1/3" diagonal (17.3mm^2). A typical APS-C SLR has an area of 370mm^2. That means that each of those 8 million pixels is over 20 times larger in the SLR than the phone camera, which means 20x the ability to collect light so 20x the sensitivity.
[Nexus 5 General] jhoss:
IR Blaster???

RE: ir blaster on the N5, what do you think this little circle is in the manual photo? It looks very similar to the IR blaster on the LG G2

Strange that it is not mentioned at all in the manual. Not a good sign, I know. But it does not look like a little microphone pinhole.

Theories?????

(see attachment photos)
[Nexus 5 General] p51d007:
Glad someone else GETS IT. Been in electronics for over 40 years....it just amazes me sometimes.

I thought the "megahertz" race was bad in the early days of PCs, but this megapixel race just makes

me scratch my head.
[Nexus 5 General] horhokokki:
No MEMS for Nexus..

Link to androidauthority.com
[Nexus 5 General] javskies:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/09/oppo-lands-exclusive-on-mems-camera-nexus-5-rumor-inaccurate/
[Nexus 5 General] biggiestuff:
That would be a welcomed addition but not a dealbreaker if it doesn't come with one.
[Nexus 5 General] larrygeary:
Good point. Thanks for the correction.
[Nexus 5 General] np231:
Prob a noise canceling mic.. Not sure. Although IR would be nice
[Nexus 5 General] BoneXDA:
That's the noise cancellation mic brah, it's at the exact same spot as on my Nex4.
[Nexus 5 General] jhoss:
Can you gimme a pic? I really think it looks like a lense and not an empty hole.
[Nexus 5 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
I am not happy with specs mentioned on OP, hope its not true.
[Nexus 5 General] biggiestuff:
The one in the picture looks like it's covered by dark glass or plastic just like on the G2. It's not a hole like a noise cancellation mic usually is.
[Nexus 5 General] joetzzz:
So what is the size of the sensor of Nexus 5 camera?
[Nexus 5 General] np231:
That remains to be seen.. I'm really hoping that the big lens means there is something more to the camera than just 8MP
[Nexus 5 General] :
I'm thinking tho....with other competitive phones costing more than double a nexus phone.....they are gonna cut costs somewhere. Probably explains the N4's camera as well.

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[Nexus 5 General] Hand76:
Thing is a beast. What are you talking about?
[Nexus 5 General] Lewythefly:
What's not to your liking? Huh? Punk? lol :cool:
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
The DigitalOptics site gave EdZ's common size, 1/3.2 for its Sony IMX179 sensor, so it should be the same.

http://memscam.com/html_files/PDF/mems_cam_DOC8324F_C_Feb_2013.pdf
[Nexus 5 General] BoneXDA:
It is the noise cancellation mic. There is no other hole besides the 3,5mm jack, so it must be, and it is. It's at the same place as always, and Google doesn't add an IR blaster. The picture shows a very prototypy unit BTW.
[Nexus 5 General] H4CK_H0PP3R:
I am talking about its camera only 8MP huhhh...where its race of 13MP camera smartphones these days ..RAM 2GB ..again disappointed as already Note 3 & some devices started with 3GB RAM & then battery which is not confirmed 2300 or 3000 mAh, All mess , Still having hopes on official specs release.
[Nexus 5 General] Lewythefly:
If you want a flagship then buy a flagship. The nexus line has always been very well spec'd but has had some draw backs. You can't expect to buy a G2 or Note 3 for the price of the nexus
[Nexus 5 General] ottoman2:
So you want a a smartphone with specs worth 600€ for the price of 300€? That seems reasonable.
[Nexus 5 General] vittogn:
I want (hope) a 500€ Nexus option with specs like a 600€ flagship minus the camera!
[Nexus 5 General] Mach3.2:
Just get a D800E if you're megapixel-whoring, high megapixel count and image quality ensured if you invest in good glass too. Good low light performance and all the bells and whistles.

Beamed from my Maguro
[Nexus 5 General] :
We're talking phones here. Phones are no where near, and may never, compete or replace a camera if you want great pics....especially indoors and at night. Just not gonna happen. Cameras are bulkier than phones....how they gonna jam all that into a phone, plus the phones components? Our phones would be twice the size and weight that they are now.

As long as I can snap a decent enough pic, that's great. If I'm going somewhere and know I wanna take good pics....I'll bring my $200 camera that I'm confident would blow any phone camera away.....even the best camera phones out there.

Basically, if I'm deciding on a phone....camera has no bearing on anything....to me anyway. I want a good phone. Camera is just a frill.

Just my 2 cents....cause camera seems to be the highest priority to most. ;)

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[Nexus 5 General] can6rxw:
I understand what you're saying but for me, the camera is very important. I don't always carry a camera with me. I don't have a purse, man bag, backpack, etc. that could carry a camera all the time. A phone, I carry everywhere with me. The quality of the camera on the phone is important because if I'm going to take pic, I want good quality pics - clear with decent detail. Some moments happen quickly and having a camera available that will take good pics will ensure you capture those moments with decent detail and so on. I can't remember how many times I was at the park on the way home with my daughter and a great picture oportunity presented itself and I had a crappy camera with me. The moment was captured but the effect just isn't there...the quality is bad, grainy, blurry, etc.

So yes, I want a good camera on the next Nexus phone. Is it a deal breaker? No. But it is about time Google gave us a decent camera. And...for the record...the Nexus 4 camera was the best Nexus camera yet, so they are trying.
[Nexus 5 General] cipsaz:
Why not. The Nexus is clearly a better phone than the Note or G2.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I do agree also!!! I'd love a really good camera on my phone. I've got a lot of pics of my kids I wish were better. Would be awesome to not worry about a separate camera.

Just don't think on a $300 to $400 phone that its ever going to be that great. Some of the expensive high end phones may have really good cameras, or if not, then I'd really expect them to.....but Nexus devices skimp on this or that to save some money ...(sd slots....camera....etc), otherwise they'd lose their shirts selling them so cheap.

Just my opinion. Still getting that N4 soon....can't wait! ;)

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[Nexus 5 General] thfreedumb:
how do you know it's a bad camera? Have you used it or are you just going by samsung logic? Bigger number MP = better camera? Are you planning on creating life sized posters with it?
[Nexus 5 General] manpildo:
THANK YOU. It's annoying that people think megapixels = quality. But I can't blame them entirely, camera companies have done a great job asserting this notion in people's minds that a camera's quality can be described in one single number, so all they have to do is focus on incrementing that one number and people will mindlessly buy into it, thinking this is the only thing that matters.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I miss my 4mp Kodak I used to have. Took the best pics of any camera I've ever owned!!! :)

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[Nexus 5 General] dkotoric:
Im using a lg g2 with a 13mp camera and i have to tell u this. In my collage days i had to take many photo classes for my degree and the one thing that our proffesor thought us is that looking at a 3mp picture at a 8x10 size a human eye can not tell the diff betwee 3mp vs any other bigger mp size.

Sent from my WHITE LG-G2
[Nexus 5 General] TheNightmanCometh:
It doesn't seem like a huge leap from the Nexus 4 to be honest :good:
[Nexus 5 General] Blenky:
Anything about audio? I currently have an S3 and use an apt-x compatible headphones. I don't believe the Nexus 4 supports apt-x and wondered if the Nexus 5 will?
[Nexus 5 General] abalosmusic:
Sooo is it a fersure thing that the n5 will not have an ir blaster? Cuz if thats the case id rather keep my note 3.. only reason id consider returnin my note 3 cuz stock android is jus soo much more fluid than tw
[Nexus 5 General] Cronis:
To be fair while this is true manufacturers tend to combine their best optics with higher MP sensors. The Sony IMX179 is a solid sensor though, so lets just hope the N5 gets some decent optics. if it gets OIS like the log suggested that would be awesome.