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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vitaminen:
Can Samsung repair center see that knox is voided if the Phone is dead? Hardbricked or something?

Mine died when using an app for partitioning external SD card. NO Response from the phone what ever i do. No charging light and power button does nothing. Cant enter recovery an so on.

I just told the store i bought it from that the phone got really hot and died on me =P
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sm007hCriminal:
Guys, I need a few clarifications plz.

I have i9500 running Android 4.3. I haven't installed Knox by opening the app.

If I root my phone will it trigger the Knox warranty bit?

Plz help.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maharu567:
From what i know the root dont't trigger the knox if knox is not installed.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gencho81:
Rooting or flashing custom recovery trigger the knox warranty bid even if knox is not installed.

He is inside bootloader(or somewhere there)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
KNOX is in the bootloader. The app has nothing to do with the warranty flag. Rooting the wrong way or trying to downgrade the OS or flash a custom rom will trigger the flag.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A|ex:
I ordered 5 Samsung S4 16GB phones in the uk from two different suppliers. All of them came with version 4.2 installed and KNOX ....8 on and the new euro region lock sticker. so if you do not get this in your region you have old stock and maybe lucky
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark0021:
Ive already triggered my knox (0x1)... is there a way to revert it back to (0x0)?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
No way to go back.

---------- Post added at 09:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 AM ----------

Samsung needs to be more public about KNOX for users.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azuziel:
This is false. Please dont respond if you aren't sure. Misinformation hurts everyone.

Rooting does *not* trip knox. It depends what method you use to achieve root. Flashing a custom recovery *will* trip knox. Using cf auto root, will also trip knox. Kingo and saferoot will *not* trip knox. Kingo will trip it if you allow odin/cf root method (will prompt during root).

I have 4.3 rooted, with no custom recovery, wanam xposed to restore official status for ota updates, and my knox is 0x0 (both) on i377m.

You cannot run custom kernels or recovey, and you cannot downgrade to 4.2.2 from 4.3 without tripping.

Sent from my SGH-I337M
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pika456:
wrong section pls delete
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prezess100:
downgrade

Hi guys, sorry in advence if this is wrong thread for this question.

so Ive updated my I9505 to 4.4.2ge directly from 4.2.2. btw. both of them was custom roms.

Ive done it through recovery. but then I realised it's not really good software. it didn't work with my car dock, there was some problems with microphone and I didn't like it at all. furthermore I got to know about knox in this rom. but there was no any 'knox line' in download mode on my phone so I decided to install older rom. now I have omega 4.3ge and still don't have any knox information. the installation gone very well withou any problems. but I would like to go back to 4.2.2.

tell me if it's possible. and tell me why there is no knox info on my phone? does it mean that my warranty is still valid?

thanks in advance :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A|ex:
It sounds like you are on old bootloader and so no knox is installed. you can go back to 4.2.2 but be careful not to load a ROM with knox on or you will get it forever
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prezess100:
downgrade

do you mean knox is built-in 4.2.2 also?

and is it possible to brick my phone now? (while downgrading to 4.2.2)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

You can go back to a 4.2.2 custom ROM , without fear of catching the knox-pox , or bricking your phone.

Yes , there are 4.2.2 firmwares (after MGA) which contain the knox bootloader.

So , if you ever want to go to stock , do not flash anything after MGA firmware .

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supremekizzle:
So it's been established that rooting alone doesn't trip Knox. What exactly will. Boot loader? ROM? Recovery? Would it be safe to assume I'm able to root with a Knox safe method and delete stock apps without tripping Knox? That is my only thing I want to do. When I've gone into a file explorer as stock and tried to delete something from system I get a shield in the notification window saying someone has tried to delete system app or some jazz like that. Could I use deductive reasoning to assume that even if I'm rooted and try to delete apps I'll trip the counter? Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chriscolby7:
Please Help! Ive been searching all day yesterday

So i wanted to be updated so i downloaded mf9 and mja and all the kernels or whatever and installed them and was on stock non rooted rom for a while, yesterday i wanted to install sacs custom rom so i downloaded the newest one and flashed via twrp, but now all that happens is i get a message saying "Kernel is not seandroid enforcing" in red "Set warrenty Bit: Kernel" in yellow, I cannot flash anything via odin except philz recovery so i have that on there but i tried to install the stock firmware through odin and everything fails. I even changed usb cords, took out the .md5 extension, plugged the usb cord directly to the motherboard instead of using the front usb which that allowed me to flash philz recovery but i just want a working phone, no rom is working and I cant install any roms please help i need my phone back! Thanks, Chris
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ph.miki:
Did u try wia kies?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noooooo:
Delete

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
If I have 4.3 with Knox (0x0) CSC is BTU and I would like to change CSC to XEO for example then will I trip Knox to 0x1 if I flash 4.3 XEO ROM? If yes, is there any way to change CSC without tripping knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
Nope. No ROM other than stock. You flash custom/unsigned and you trip KNOX.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
I know, but what if I would downloaded ROM from samsung-updates site and it would be 4.3 XEO ROM? I would install it using Odin. Will it trip my knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
I have no idea. Same ROM is okay. Newer signed ROM is okay. Anything else I don't know.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Michal Z.:
Exactly.. have anyone tried to flash official samsung ROM but with different CSC?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kimitza:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f67...bit-0-solution-inside-first-ih-world-1776265/

Is this for real?some guy said he managed to fix knox 0x1 for 9500.

Sent from my EchoE'd GT-I9505/smart phones,dumb people.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] theunderling:
Theres a debate going on about it in the note 3 forum.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baron.b:
I have changed csc without tripping knox...

There is two methods... first one, flash stock rom with only one csc via odin, full wipe after flash is required.

Second one, root is needed. Flash multi csc rom via odin, do safe root (this method roots your phone without tripping knox) and change csc...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fabecoool:
So, except for BYOD and warranty...

Hi there!

OK, I have read many threads on knox (among others many posts of the Research thread in the development section), and I've read all kinds of things about knox.

From what I understand:

- tripping knox will void your warranty (in some regions at least)

- tripping knox will prevent you to use the knox applications e.g. in BYOD scenarios

I don't care about the above, because 1) I'm in the EU and I don't think the warranty will be void if the problem is hardware related (unless Sammy goes to great lengths to prove that my software messed up the phone) and 2) I'm not planning to use the device at work. If they want me to have a phone, they'll provide me with one.

I'm planning to get a second hand I9505, and it will probably have knox since everyone accepts the OTA updates. I want to install Slimbean or maybe Slimkat, but there were some "rumors" about knox that would tip the scale towards another device (nexus 5?).

So, is the following true (when you have knox):

- once you're on a 4.3 ROM, you won't be able to downgrade, and this is for any ROM, custom of stock. Same thing if you go to KK (4.4), there's no way back to JB ROMs, or if you do, it will break things like WiFi or sound.

- having knox tripped may break WiFi or sound in a custom ROM.

Please tell me knox will only void warranty and BYOD possibility!!!

Fa
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pitastrudl:
the only thing that happens when you trip knox is being unable to use knox apps. aosp 4.4 roms are not dependant on the bootloader. 4.4 TW roms are dependant on the bootloader. If you flash a bootloader or stock firmware which is 4.4 touchwiz, you cant go back to 4.3, since you would have problems(dont know what exactly).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fabecoool:
Thanks a lot pitastrudl (I just hit the thanks button)! You just made my day :). I don't really care for TW ROMs, so I'm now gonna go happily shopping for a second hand I9505.

See you around these forums, and a good week-end to all of you! :)

Fa
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SecretMojo:
can anyone help me

Sorry for my bad english but

i got no sound on my s4 i9505 i got a black screen when i make a call or receive one, flashing custom roms won't fix it

I tried to flash back the stock ROM witch fixed it the last time that was a 4.2.2 BUT ODIN came with this message

Code:

Added!!

Enter CS for MD5..

Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

Please wait..

I9505XXUEMJ5_I9505OXAEMJ5_I9505XXUEMJ5_HOME.tar.md5 is valid.

Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

Leave CS..

Odin v.3 engine (ID:8)..

File analysis..

SetupConnection..

Initialzation..

Get PIT for mapping..

Firmware update start..

SingleDownload.

sbl2.mbn

NAND Write Start!!

sbl3.mbn

rpm.mbn

aboot.mbn

FAIL! (Auth)

Complete(Write) operation failed.

All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

In download mode after the flash fails, appears this message

Code:

START [224,1440]

SW REV. CHECK FAIL : fused : 4, Binary : 3

but now i read your forum and learned that i can't downgrade.. (my knox warranty is void 0x1) also with stock roms, but upgrade ?

pleaaassee is there a fixable way i can get my beautiful sound back on my s4 and maby my phone calls 2 :crying: :crying:[/QUOTE]

mm
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

If you notice , it is failing on aboot.mbn

This means you are trying to flash a firmware that is older than the one on your phone.

Try flashing a stock firmware that is the same as you have , or a later one.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SecretMojo:
thanks you for your help i am downloading i9505XXUEML1 stock rom right now ( now i am running custom rom Phoenix 7.0 XXUEML1 android 4.3)

i think ML1 s the newest version also that true?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

If it's the same as the one on your phone , then , it should be fine.

Remember when flashing stock firmware , you need to wipe data , and cache before and after flashing the firmware.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SecretMojo:
it worked for me :victory:

well i flashed I9505XXUFNA5

and my sound phone calls and mic is back :D

thanks for your information it really helped me out thumbs upp :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gunniboy:
Querry about KNOX status

I am attaching a picture of my Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500 during the Download Mode. Can some expert please check it out and let me know the Knox Warranty status of my device? Thank you.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/18m2hy.jpg
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
KNOX has not been tripped = 0x0
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gunniboy:
Thank you so much. I was just apprehensive because my Download mode only showed KNOX as 0 and not as 0x0 or 0x1

That's why I had asked.

Now, is there a method to root MK9 without affecting this KNOX warranty?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
I do think know. I have a Verizon phone. Saferoot might work, but check first.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paolonicus:
Custom ROM to Official Firmware

Hi!

I apologize if someone already did asked this before. I got some concerns regarding my S4 (GT-i9500) with the Knox Bootloader. Mine is a rooted Gt-i9500 running on Wanamlite v3.5 MK9 (4.3 JB) with CWM Recovery 6.0.4.5. My Warranty Bit is 1.

1. Since I'm currently using Custom Firmware, is it possible to flash an Official Firmware that is also based on 4.3 which also has the same Knox Bootloader, and be on the Firmware without any problems, aside from voided warranty?

2. Downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2 is impossible without bricking the device. How about 4.2.2 with Knox Bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesseuy:
Hi, just want to ask. I have knox 0x1 counter rooted with twrp. I tried restoring my device with wanam mf8 backup with a go. Only trouble is I lost my emei. Tried to backup and flash efs but no go. Can somebody help out please.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ephestione:
Reporting in: it CAN happen that a 0x1 Knox phone will get warranty servicing anyway.

This is the story: one morning late january my S4 stopped being able to call and receive calls, mobile data worked fine.

Sometimes rebooting made making/receiving phonecalls possible, but after a while I was locked out anyway.

So there I go, I needed to bring it back to stock, had no idea whatsoever of this "knox" thing, so I stupidly downloaded the latest official rom and flashed it.

But, alas, didn't reset custom status and flash counter before flashing stock, so I had to root the new rom with CF autoroot and use triangle away, then reflashed the ROM.

After I sent the phoe for repairs, I got curious about that Knox thing in the bootloader screen, read about it, and didn't rememeber if the value was 0x1 in the bootloader before sending it, but started fearing to be out of warranty.

It came back from warranty servicing a few days, ago, and not surprisingly, having used CFautoroot, Knox was 0x1.

They still checked it under warranty.

Alas, they did NOT repair it even if they said "the phone is OK, you carrier must be blocking your IMEI" which is BS as my carrier confirmed IMEI is not blocked, and occasionally I am able to make phonecalls.

So I will be sending it for repairs yet once again.

If they tell me this time that Knox is void and warranty as all, I will just tell them that I did nothing since last repair, and so it's their fault :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ephestione:
I am sorry if I wrote in the wrong place, yet I actually pondered where to post this bit of info, since I knew about the Q&A thread.

This isn't a proper development thread, since it's placed in the General branch, still it is a specific discussion, not for generic chit-chat, and I concluded that posting about Samsung's warranty servicing policies in here would be a valuable input, since it's still a "research about how Knox flag will affect servicing":D

Anyhow, the Knox flag, or even the custom firmware status and custom flash counter should NOT invalidate the warranty in Europe, by EU legislations... still, good luck enforcing it. Figure bringing your phone in and having it given back with "sorry you tampered with the software and triggered some flag we're not comfortable talking about... your warranty is void anyway, you can pay the repairs if you want". Will you be bringing Samsung to court? Chainfire discussed about it in his G+ blog already.

I imagined it's nice to know that service centers "close an eye" about that flag in the bootloader, or maybe don't even go check it out, at least in my case.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] testadeferro:
Law is law. I don't know how in Italy works. But in my country (I think is not a good example court wise) you have small instances for this kind of queries. And what states in the law is clearly that no matter what you have done to your phone in the first 6 months when a defect shows up it means that it has born with the phone. After that you must to proof that it has been there. But it's also a big issue to deny warranty because they must proof that by tampering your phone you caused damage. Because they must to present a irrevocable proof that you have done so. And that's impossible. If they use knox as a surveillance over you you can go upon them because that's also ilegal. And last but not least in last case you can claim that warranty isn't between you and Samsung. And in that way the provider or seller can't proof nothing. And last but important one. When you bought the phone, there's nowhere to be seen outside the box a warning that if you tamper your phone you will loose warranty. So you have a contract between you and Samsung after you open the box turn your phone on and voila you must to agree with the conditions. If you disagree you can't just put your phone in the box and send it back because you disagree with the terms and conditions. As you see you have many legal things that protects you in EU. I've sent my S4 twice to repair center in warranty and both times they repair it free. If not I will be nice and send them the EU directive.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lorenzo122:
It's better you don't know how the law works in Italy ahahah
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nviz22:
Hi, I am a total rooting noobie. I want to enable Band 4 for LTE on AT&T on my unlocked Verizon Note 3. I am worried about voiding my warranty and how Samsung Knox records it. Is there a way to root my phone and unvoid my warranty when I unroot and reset the Knox counter? I am just trying to use stock 4.3, baseband version N900VVRUBMJ7, idk the modem though. I would also use titanium backup to remove apps I don't need (ie bloatware) and just use LTE. Can anyone help me out, please?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gunniboy:
Is this confirmed?

I just came across this link. Will this be useful to ROOT my S4 I9500 (MK9) without affecting the KNOX Warranty?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/root-galaxy-s4-snapdragon-600-exynos-5-android-063423778.html#gI7WQMd

and

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galax...s-5-android-4-3-without-warranty-void-1431730
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rling:
I've got a I9505 running 4.2.2 that was rooted. Used Triangle Away to clear all the flags in preperation to update to 4.4. But I inadvertantly updated the firmware to a KNOX. Luckily, the KNOX flag is still 0.

However, due to to the root, update to 4.3 fails at around 26%.

Is there a way to restore the firmware to 4.2.2 without triggering the KNOX flag?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Once you have the knox-pox , there is no way to downgrade.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rling:
Aware of it. As it stands now, I cannot upgrade to the official 4.3 due to the root. I can live the new bootloader.

But is there a way to restore the system files to enable it to take an official update without triggering the KNOX flag?

I am aware that I can just punt for a Vega pre-rooted ROM and preserve the KNOX flag, but would like to try to see if I can keep things as clean as possible.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] godin_slayer:
deleting Google play

I have rooted my phone and was wondering is there any issues after deleting Google Play?

I'm debating on it, might stick with 1 mobile market.

any info is greatly appreciated

thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dim.wild:
hey i voided the warranty on my s4 i have now knox 0x1 , i dont reallyy care about the warranty all i want is to restore my s4

to fully stock

i messed up kernels and all this crap and now when i try to restore to stock with odin it fails me

the s4 is on 4.2.2 and only one firmware that i downlaoded installs on it and its the stock firmware but there is no sound or i cant make calls

the screen goes black on the s4...is there any way i can just get back to fully stock to 4.2.2 or 4.3 doesnt really matter

some one please help me , i really dont know what to do ://///
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] java77:
Want to upgrade to 4.3

I'm currently with the 4.2.2 rom and I would like to upgrade to 4.3, wich rom is knox free?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
Most fully custom ROMs are bootloader independent, I'm running SlimKat 4.4.2 with a custom kernel on MGA bootloader with no issues and knox 0x0 :P

Sent from my 9505GTi
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azuziel:
Post in the help form. This is a knox thread. But yes. Odin with stock firmware will fix it, or emergency firmware recovery in kies.

---------- Post added at 03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:38 PM ----------

There's a large bounty for running a custom recovery without tripping the flag, on a knox phone. Installing custom recovery trips knox. Details?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
I did state I was on the MGA Bootloader... :P

Sent from my 9505GTi
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azuziel:
Haha, my bad. Damn. Was hoping for some news.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmelorj:
S4 i9505 / jfltexx / Cyanogenmod last nightly

Hello,

I've noticed that the last nightly for S4 LTE International (I9505), until today (02/24/2014) is from 02/17/2014, while the S4 (I9500) is much more recently. Is this any problem with this model? download . cyanogenmod . org/?device=jfltexx

The site www . cmxlog . com/11/jfltexx/ seems to have the changelog for this model, but since 02/17/2014 this page starts to present an error, like this model had disapeared.

What had hapened?

Best regards
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dmelorj:
Well I saw at wiki . cyanogenmod . org/w/Jflte_Info The devices were unified.

Best regards!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vpwrf:
I would also like to know where I can find a Knox free 4.3 stock ROM for my I9505. I think I remember seeing one but can't find it anywhere. I have tried searching but all I can find is custom ROMs. Is there a Knox free stock 4.3 ROM anywhere that doesn't have the Knox bootloader? There's no way I am flashing the Knox bootloader and there's no way I will update a phone without the ability to downgrade.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

You need to flash a custom recovery,and then , you can flash a custom stock pre-rooted 4.3 ROM from HERE

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oxano:
Ok i have disaster news for myself obviously .

I was on some custom rom and i wanted to go 4.3 original before seling my Note 2.

I set up 4.3 official but binary count was 1.

I used triangle away and need to root phone, and then i got this night mare, now , i CAN NOT repair my phone which had charging problems /dock mode on off so i wanted to send it to SAMSUNG warranty servis.

And i got that Know warranty void : 1

I can not do anything anymore? To send my phone repaired without paying?

If i am really in big problem i will keep my phone what is price for repairing this part for charging my phone where you plug in your phone?

I hope there is some solving thing. I will never ever buy samsung because of this thing.

First gone from Apple becuase of Jailbreak now Samsung was all to me and now i discover night mare called Knox.

Good people give me advice.

I got deleted Trianble away and superuser is still there. And when i start this Knox asks me 152mb file to download.

Any suggestions pls...