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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rambo6:
Not buying samsung note 3

I signed the petition.

I have been a very loyal Samsung customer since the Galaxy S. My last three phones have been the Galaxy NOTE N7000, an AT&T NOTE (I717), and an AT&T NOTE 2 (I317). The NOTE 2 may well be my last phone from Samsung/AT&T.

AT&T has always screwed up great phones. For example, the AT&T Galaxy S, Captivate (spelled Craptivate), had the FM radio and front facing camera removed while the rest of the world got the Galaxy S with those features. I ended up buying the Galaxy S from Canada just to get the FM radio and front facing camera. It worked well on AT&T's network.

The bastards at AT&T also keep the phone hardware out of Tablets such as the Galaxy Note 8.0. It is absolutely ridiculous that I cannot buy a Galaxy Note 8.0 with AT&T LTE and the phone hardware built in and working.

The reason I quit buying HTC phones is they quit making international versions that worked on AT&T the best US Wireless network. HTC made great international versions that one could buy unlocked. They worked on most 3G networks. HTC was doing extremely well. So well they got cocky.

Samsung and AT&T are now fat and cocky. The idea that they are now locking the SIMs and bootloader is a very bad. I travel overseas often. As soon as I land I buy a SIM card with lots of data. It's usually a much better deal than anyting AT&T offers here in the States. For instance, I just went to Italy and bought two SIM Cards from Wind for $53.00 total! Each SIM had 5GB of data!

AT&T further rips off their customers by not allowing tethering without an extra fee. One buys data and should be able to use that data any way he pleases. The other problem is that AT&T's ROMs stink to high heaven. On all my NOTEs, I have used stock international ROMs because they are cleaner, have better color schemes (especially for emai), etc. One thing I cannot stand is to see that stupid blue globe with the stupid AT&T chime every time I change my batter an reboot.

AT&T, you've got the best network, quit being assholes!

Samsung, you've got the best devices, don't start being jerks. Don't let AT&T tell you to strip out the FM radios and lock the bootloaders. You're big enough now. You tell AT&T how it's going to be.

I'm so upset about this I'm inclined to contact the FCC and other agencies. AT&T should not be able to dumb down devices as they have. I'm so mad I think I'm going to buy a Nokia Lumina 1520 as soon as it comes out. I love android but the 1520 is going to be one hell of a device. ASUS too will be giving Samsung a run for their money shortly.

Within a couple years, we're going to see 6" to 8" phablets running complete Windows 8.1 (not windows phone or RT) with phones built in. I'd like to see some Samsung devices, but I won't buy them with locked bootloaders, region locks, and without the FM radio.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Blairware:
Well said, and I agree with you wholeheartedly, in principle and in fact. Thanks for signing, by the way... One issue with your Windows Phone "Plan B" is that windows phones suck. I am not trying to be close minded or be funny, and I do not mean the hardware isn't great, and there's nothing wrong (well nothing major anyway) with Windows Phone... I just had 2 Nokias for a few weeks waiting for my Note 3. They have POTENTIAL like crazy. But I 100% doubt they will ever, ever realize that potential. There are not enough developers interested in them, and since I don't see that changing, it's a moot point. They suck. They could POTENTIALLY not suck, but it's not gonna happen. A shame. But a reality nonetheless. Now, If Samsung can catch themselves before they start sucking.... Step 1: Tell AT&T to go sh1t in a hat. Step 2: Refuse to be told what to do. Step 3: Read their own Facebook Page, where LOTS of people are going to post this link:

Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/192KeHy
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rambo6:
I am tried of carring a notebook and a big phone. You're right - Windows Phone is not there yet. I don't know if they'll make it or not. Nokia's 1520 will be very interesting. It is the first Windows Phone Phablet that has current high spec hardware and it has an awesome camera. I love Samsung stuff with the external memory, exchangeable batteries, etc. However, they need some competition. $700 plus for a bootloader locked phone is unreasonable. Asus/Google's Nexus 7 2013 is truly a fantastic device for the money - $349 with LTE. It handles a plethora of LTE frequencies. I'll bet they could have put a phone in it for $50 more.

There's no reason that someone cannot build a super high quality international LTE phone/tablet for $500 or so. During the next 12 months there's the possiblity of phablets with intel baytrail processors with international LTE bands. This is going to make the game very interesting. Someone should be able to put a full fledged copy of Windows on that hardware along with phone hardware. Such a device could really put a dent in Android and IOS. Heck, it could even dual boot to android. Wouldn't that be a killer device!

For now we need to keep the pressure on Samsung and AT&T. If I have time, I will write the FCC and my representatives on this subject. I've been wanting to do this for some time.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] eroracing:
Signed.... Along with 10 others too!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] djbrian52:
Signed

Sent from my Note II...where BIGGER is better!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Sam3gX:
Galaxy Note 3*
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] elite67:
Signed. Count me in.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mountainbound:
Signed
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] TheChefSLC:
I have just signed this, though I doubt anything would come from it.

Using my company provided note 3, I have no intentions of unlocking or rooting the device. However there needs to be the option for those who have bought it as it is now their device to do what they want with it
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigwayne3902:
Signed
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Knight-Rider:
This is what I put.

We spend hundred and thousands of dollars for these devices every year we should have the ability to do what we want. It's like buying a car/truck, are the manufacturers going to tell you that you can only travel so far on a daily basis, or put whatever gas they want you to use, or maybe what type of oil you should use. This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen by a cell phone carrier or maker! We will no longer buy your phones if you keep this up. Look where it's taken HTC for doing that a few years ago, Samsung you're next!!!!!!! Might as well call yourself sam**** cause your company will go to **** when people stop buying regardless of how far in technology you go at the end of the day it's what us the people want think about it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] SmittyRN:
Signed, even though I have my doubts as to whether it will do any good.

If you really want a lot of signatures, get with the XDA gods and see if they will put on link on the homepage or something. Just because someone doesn't have a AT&T Note 3 doesn't mean that they don't care about our locked bootloader. Get the petition out of our small part of XDA and let everyone show support.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] madmike23:
Got a few peeps to sign along with me. Let's hope for the best. :)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] inmotion:
Signed
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] humdrum2009:
Its why i stuck with sprint

its the main reason i stuck with sprint

unlocked bootloader as soon as they start locking them its hello nexus phones
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] AboveAverage:
Signed
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
Is it too late to correct the spelling errors in the petition? I think such errors undermine a petition's effectiveness.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gargamel198024:
Signed! Shows at 154 signatures right now
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
Well I am buying a unlocked TMobile Note 3.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] snipe2nite:
SmartAs$Phone, thanks for taking the time and putting this thread together!!! You got my support, I refuse to pull the trigger on the Note 3 with a locked bootloader...... I'm sure they'll fk up 4.4 and take forever to release it as always, AOSP or nothing. AT&T is about to lose me as a customer of over 15 years. Looking forward to the Nexus 5!!!

Sent from my Nexus 4 Pimpin AOSPA 3+
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
Go to TMobile +Note 3
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raulz28:
While I don't own this phone I do own the S4 and am suffering from the MF3 update and have signed the petition over there and will sign this one also.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
What is Mf3 update.?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mutantblack:
It's is ATT rom upgrade that locked down on bootloader of S4.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
That's why you root it and flash a custom rom.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raulz28:
Before the MF3 update an exploit was found using Loki so people were able to flash custom recoveries, kernels, and ROM. So AT&T pushed an update and patched that exploit so can't use Loki anymore but thankfully Hashcode came in and developed Safestrap so we can flash custom ROMs but only ones on stock kernel no AOSP, CM, AOKP, etc.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
That's why I am buying a TMobile Note 3 unlocked. F them.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raulz28:
I got it with the MF3 update and even if you were lucky enough to still get an MDL phone after the MF3 update you had to be careful when getting an internet connection the update would try to automatically install in the background.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] hkeyman:
Signed...Lets hope for our sakes it does some good. If not ATT and Samsung are on the path of losing ALOT of business from the community that prides itself on open source and sharing.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] 00mred00:
This...Unfortunately the biggest statement will be made by returning the phones...which I am considering doing
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Namolas:
Signed. Myself along with 2 other family members. Thank you all for your efforts.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ksprelude01:
I understand you do not support unlocked bootloaders, that's not the problem.....It's not right to lock the bootloader in the first place. Im a very long time subscriber of AT&T wireless, and have bought many high dollar phones from you and have been able to change or mod the software to my liking with out a problem. But withthe bootloader being lockedon thenote 3 you have basically took away my right to make the phone operate the way I want it to operate. I paid for the phone and took the risks involved with owning the phone so I have the right to do with it what I want. So I say again..."UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER OF THE NOTE 3!"

Just posted this on AT&T Facebook page
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] PMad:
Just hit 200 signatures!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
This thread has 3,000 views but only 200 signatures?! Like c'mon man
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigwayne3902:
Let do this guy's
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Namuna:
And with my sig just now, we're up to 206
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] jcotterman:
Signed. And I don't even own a N3. But I am AT&T.

HTC One
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] babymatteo:
Signed. And i don't even have a Note 3 nor am I on AT&T lol. I just hate companies that lock **** up on something you had bought. You should be able to enjoy it or mess it up your own darn way.

Good luck to guys!!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Blairware:
Thanks all - this is getting better all the time... remember to post links to the petition on Facebook and forums where you comment.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] ryder86:
Why not just buy the device direct from Samsung? gotta have the subsidy tho? Don't be broke!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Sparkz914:
Well what's the point of a petition if you're going out and buying the phone anyway just to complain?

Why not just buy elsewhere and hurt AT&T financially. If people don't buy their product it's more of an impact verses signatures that they can just throw in the garbage at the end of the day.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] brojoe11:
I just signed. It's time for AT&T to listen to long standing devoted customers before we all find a better service and leave for good.:highfive:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] pachi72:
Because Samsung doesn't offer an unlocked US version.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] nimixes:
Signed maybe it won't work but worth a shot anyways
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I wish you guys luck but "a couple of hundred" of anything doesn't really matter to AT&T. Something like a locked bootloader affects such a small percentage of their customers as to make all of them leaving inconsequential. And as we know they certainly aren't going to AT&T's biggest competitor, Verizon.

AT&T released its Q2 earnings report showing that the carrier posted earnings per share of $0.68 on revenues of $32.1 billion, thus matching Wall Street consensus projections of $0.68 EPS on revenues of $31.82 billion. In terms of subscribers, AT&T added 551,000 new postpaid subscribers while selling a company record 6.8 million smartphones. The carrier also activated 3.7 million iPhones on the quarter, which was less than rival Verizon, which activated 3.9 million iPhones last quarter. AT&T also claimed that it activated a company record number of Android smartphones on the quarter.​
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] sodomanaz:
Because those of us on AT&T don't feel like wasting an extra $400+ for something we are paying for anyway.

Ok, so you buy your phone full price ($750 or whatever they are charging) from Tmobile and bring it over. Fine. But think about this reasonably for a minute.

You initially buy a subsidized phone for $300. They tell you you will be paying this subsidy off through your contract. The contract ends, and then what? Do they lower the price of the plan? Hell no. You continue paying the same rate no matter what. You are cheating yourself by not going for another subsidized phone. All of the phone companies are pulling the same sham.

Buy the phone off contract if you want. I'd rather not pay a huge chunk of money on top of the same rate plan I'm going to be stuck with anyway.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] drakeymcmb:
Signed

I'm number 266
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] indecentspeech:
Well said! Completely agree.

---------- Post added at 08:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 PM ----------

I think you are right. I am really, really thinking about returning it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Pandawg:
Signed. What do you guys think is the actual chance of getting the bootloader unlocked? I want to get the Note 3, but I won't get it if the bootloader isn't unlocked.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bkeaver:
Not good unless a dev is successful
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] paulieb81:
You've got my signature added.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] wase4711:
once you plop down your $$$ to ATT, they couldnt care less about your signature on a petition..This is ATT, the Deathstar...

If you want to have some sort of impact, then vote with your wallet, and dont buy their products.

Anything after that fact is just a waste of time and bandwidth..
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] brfitzp:
I signed it but i doubt a petition will change their minds. The people who even know what a bootloader is are such a small percentage of their note 3 customers. We would need like 50k people to make up a significant amount. 289 signatures in ten days makes it look even worse. The people who signed it make up like .001% of their note 3 sales. It's a real bummer.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] sonicthoughts:
Switching to T-mobile

This the ONLY reason I'm switching to T-mobile. Know 2 other people. AT&T has no right to control this. If they put 1/100th the effort to hardening their network / API that they do to lock-down phones there would be no issues. This is poor biz practice, and the only way to protest is to LEAVE!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Delakit:
They have no right to control this? That's too funny. That's like saying police don't have the right to pull you over for suspicion or the government doesn't have the right to shut down. It's their device once they have a hold of it and can do almost whatever they want. Hell, watch your tax charges change bill to bill. Sure it sucks but it is what it is. They have more control than we do.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Anthonok:
Thank you! At least I'm not the only one that understands this will not get anything accomplished. They've got you're money and contract agreement saying they'll continue to get their money.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] wase4711:
yep, your only "real" option is to not give them your money....petitions like this mean nothing to anyone, except the OP..
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] crawrj:
I agree to an extent. I believe that doing both will be most effective. A public outcry along with slumping sales would absolutely resolve the issue. The problem is getting enough people on board. I signed the petition, passed it around and refused to purchase the Note 3. I was 100% ready and willing to pick it up a few days ago until I saw that it was locked. Now I am going to wait until I see what comes out next year.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Jayster0966:
+1 on that brother. My wife and I went to the store to get new phones. She ended up with the Optimus G2 Pro and I ended up holding off for now. Going to wait a bit and see what this great community can do with the bootloader problems. I almost bought a T-Mo version though but even over there, they are having their own problems with phone bricking at alarming rates. Just have to learn how to be patient. Money does not grow on trees so I don't want to brick $800 right now.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It's so funny how people act so entitled nowadays and think an unlocked bootloader is owed to them. It's also funny how people think that this petition will do anything. It won't.

Do you honestly think AT&T or Samsung cares about you and the 10 other people that won't buy this phone because of the bootloader status? They have millions of other people that will buy it and have absolutely no idea what a bootloader even is.

I'm sure Samsung and AT&T are gonna unlock it and put their phone at more of a security risk because under 1% of potential or current Note 3 owners demand an unlocked bootloader. Pfft, please.

Either buy a Note 3 or don't. Nobody is forcing you to buy one. This petition won't do anything and it's a complete waste of time. And if you don't buy it, don't feel like you stuck it to Samsung. They will sell millions without you.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] crawrj:
First of all this has nothing to do with Samsung. Is the Sprint Note 3 locked? What about T-Mobile? I don't see myself as entitled at all. I simply want to use the phone, that I own, to do whatever I want to do. I am not renting the phone. I own it.

Secondly, if 99% of people don't know what a bootloader is then how is it causing a security risk by not locking it? They wouldn't be messing with the phone anyway so it doesn't impact them at all. Seems to me like AT&T is taking the extra effort to lock the bootloader down to say FU to the 1% of people that do want to mess with it. Who will eventually unlock it anyway so what has been gained?

And no I don't think that AT&T cares about those of us who do not appreciate the locked bootloader. Would they care if 5,000 people on XDA said FU AT&T (5,000 x $299 = $1,495,000)? Probably not but who knows. End the end you are right. As long as we sit by and accept this behavior it will continue and no one will give a crap, other than the 1%. Because less than 1% of those 1% are going to stand up and do anything about it. So I will waste that 10 seconds with no problem. I won't buy the phone and will be perfectly happy with that decision. I don't care if AT&T cares about that decision or not. Just like I don't care if I am the only person that doesn't buy the phone.

So while I appreciate your point of view, I don't appreciate being told that I am entitled or being talked to like I am stupid. While I realize your comment might or might not have been directed toward me specifically, you still included me in your umbrella statements. If you don't like what the OP says then don't come in. Or voice your point of view in a respectful way. Without trying to bash someone else for what they think.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Gary02468:
It's so funny how well trained some people are to apply a tedious catch-phrase to every new situation they encounter, regardless of relevance. And how condescending they are in the process. Nowadays.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] indecentspeech:
Well written and excellent points.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
What would AT&T gain by unlocking it? On the flip side, just think about what they would lose. What they are trying to do is stop people from rooting, unlocking, etc and doing something stupid and then acting stupid when they walk into a store and get a new phone for a mistake that they made.

I can't even tell you how many people I know of that have either accidentally bricked their phone and got a new one by playing dumb or purposely bricked their phone because it had a scratch on the screen or other damage just to get a new one.

AT&T is most likely trying to stop all of this activity which is probably losing them millions.

Also, who ever said we should be able to do whatever we want with our phones? The carriers have the right to tell us what we can and can't do with our phones since they are providing the service to us that we are using our phones on. Our phones would be paper weights without their service. They have their own terms and conditions. Not us.

If you sign up for Dish Network should you be able to hack your DVR to get free channels just because you bought it? Or mod your Xbox 360 to play pirated games because you bought it?

I know those are more extreme cases but somewhat similar.

What's funny is that I've rooted every phone that I've owned and still do up to this day. And I'm am active XDA member. But I understand what the carriers are doing and it's business. They aren't doing anything illegal.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Skizzy034:
Anyone on Android should be upset that ANY phone is locked down. The point of Android is to be open source and tinker-ready.

The carriers don't want you to tether without paying, plain and simple.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Open source for app developers, not for us. Believe me, I love rooting my phones and tinkering with them just as much as you do, but we aren't gonna win this battle unfortunately. But you're right, I'm upset and all of us should be upset.

And I bet the ratio of non-rooted phones to rooted phones is much larger than we think. So in other words, if some of us stop buying, what will it matter? We have to be on a carrier to get cell service, so they have 100% leverage.

I'm not trying to be overly pessimistic, but I see this as a lose-lose battle.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] androidmechanic:
Guys chill...The bootloader WILL get unlocked soon. They have some really sharp devs working on it as we speak. I mean really, do you think no one will ever crack the bootloader? silly
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bkeaver:
I dont think the argument has ever been IF the bootloader will get unlocked as much as some people think it is ridiculous and a waist of time to create/sign and present a petition to a carrier and or a manufacturer and think they will look at it and act upon it.

I agree with you on the Devs here and the level of knowledge, meanwhile I just sit back and watch the bickering back and forth ;)