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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] AvalancheRyder:
LG G Pad 8.3 Overheating and Poor Sound Quality

Hi all,

Has anyone had any issues with the LG G Pad 8.3 overheating? I've been using the G Pad 8.3 for almost a week and during gaming, the top of the device (left side if held in landscape) near the LG logo gets very warm, almost uncomfortably so. I mainly noticed this when playing Plants vs Zombies 2.

I noticed someone specifically said that the tablet did not overheat, so I'm wondering if my device is defective.

The sound quality is quite poor too, has anyone experienced that? It sounds very tinny.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Zarrick19:
Same here! Im not good at guessing but it was pretty hot for a tablet. But only sometimes, even when playing the same level, once it's uberhot, next time it's only warm.

Maybe it's just because of PvZ 2 "optimalization". Never noticed the tablet to be so hot even when playing Real Racing 3 for about a hour...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] katsika:
Ok after 1 day of testing my new tab i can say some things.

Pros:

GPad is thin, feels very light (without a case), has an amazing display with vibrant colors and it is very fast. The battery also seems to do just fine. After a lot of hours testing, configuring and playing games it was at 60%, not bad.

Cons:

1) Comes preloaded with a lot of software which although some people may find useful, i had a mini heart attack when i first opened and checked ram consumption( 1.1gb used out of 1.7gb, really lg?). After a lot of uninstalling and disabling apps i tried to have 600-700mb out of 1.7gb. These apps allow you to run 3 apps in background (qslide), allow you to remote control a tv or device (qremote), allow you to track posts at facebook etc (lg manager) and allow you to connect your tab to an android cell phone to share its internet (qpair). All this is kind of useless because you can find them and download them yourself if you need them. A custom rom like cyanogen would make this baby very light. As i told you this is a matter of taste as some people may find these apps very usefull, unlike me who prefer a light tablet with only the necessary apps running in the background.

2)It overheats, yes. I also played plants vs zombies 2 and the left side of landscape mode (exactly where the back camera is) feels like its burning. I didnt notice this happening with other normal apps and i didnt play modern combat 4 to see if its happening also there. Its affordable but still i find this heat really weird as it may cause problems later to the tablet.

3) The power button, if pressed by its lower side, stays stuck inside the tablet and i have to unstuck it by pressing it in the upper side. I dont know if this is a general issue with these models or it is just my tablet who has a malfunctioning button but its really annoying buying a new tab and having to take care of how i press the power button.

PS: I couldnt test if you can move apps to sd because i didnt buy a microsdxc afterall. If some member has a microsd installed in his gpad plz let us know if you can move apps to sd.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
If it makes anybody feel better, I've read threads that discussed overheating with Nexus 7's when playing games, too. Sounds like it's especially a problem with 3D games. It may be that this is just a fact of life with today's tablets. Keeping it out of a case while playing would probably keep it cooler. Hopefully, the metal back on the LG should help it dissipate heat.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] katsika:
As i said the heat is affordable (meaning it wont burn your hand). With a little search at google 'tablet overheating' there are indeed threads concerning nexus 7 and 10 which overheat and users say that this is normal and nothing to worry about. These tablets have an additional gpu (adreno 320) so maybe is it caused by the gpu? As long as it doesnt cause problems to my tablet i dont have problem with that (lg comes with 2 years warranty which makes me feel safe a bit)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] L1VESTRONG:
I am not a hard gamer fan, but i can say that this tablet looks a way more cooler than my previous n10. As a boxing fan, i like real boxing game, so i didnt notice the tablet to get hot after 15-20 minutes gaming. Using the same game on n10, it was like boiling an egg..so a big plus for me to the G PAD. How is battery life to the owners of the Pad?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] akaloith:
for all who have rooted lg g pad 8.3

can you please install

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.tsorn.FullScreen

to get rid of the bottom bar?

and post screenshots?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mustbepbs:
I haven't had any severe heating issues. Any tablet is gonna get hot when you push it.

As far as the power button goes, don't have the issue.

Battery life has been great. Getting 5 hours screen time at 70% brightness.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] xaser82:
I have installed it, works well but no menu button
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] akaloith:
in options no setting for menu button?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] AvalancheRyder:
That's interesting, I've mainly been playing PvZ 2 since it came out around the same time as the G Pad 8.3. I'll have to try some extended gaming with some other games and see if it has the same problem.

I hope not, I really want to like this tablet. It's fantastic otherwise. I just hope case manufacturers start putting out some more options for it.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Aredubu:
Good question!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
Just waiting for the 8.3 to show up on Amazon.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Same for me. I hope that Amazon will sell it and that they'll offer a rebate or price cut.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
They might not want to sell me one after all the N7s I sent back to them.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Julosch:
All I hope is that the rumors are true and that the LG-V510 (The current GPAD is the LG-V500) are either a LTE Version of the current LG Device or that it is a Nexus 8
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] jake21:
Sadly if nexus 8 they will almost certainly drop the sd slot. Kind of wish google would think this no-sd slot philosophy.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
CNET did a review yesterday They gave it good ratings, overall, but they complained about the price (like most of the reviews). They also said something about it being dimmer than the similar tablets when viewing web pages. Has anybody compared the G Pad to the N7 in terms of screen brightness?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] katsika:
The G Pad has lower resolution than Nexus 7 (273ppi vs 323ppi) because it has a bigger screen. It has stronger cpu though. The display looks amazing. HD videos look freaking awesome (at least to me, i dont have a N7 to compare).

Now about the price, in Europe G Pad costs 300euros, Nexus 7 costs 250euros (16GB version) and 300 euros (32GB version). In the USA G Pad costs 350 dollars (=260 euros) and N7 32 GB costs 270$ (=200 euros). In europe as you can see they have the same price and i picked G Pad as it has the same specs with N7 plus a 8.3" screen. In the USA though things are different because with fewer money you can get the N7 with 32gb memory.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I don't get all the complaining about the price. Even if you compare the LG to the N7 you get your money's worth for the extra $130.

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Don't forget for the $270 N7 you're also buying a crap shoot whether the touch screen will work without problems. I went through 3 N7s and they all had screen issues. I'd rather pay a little more and get a tab that actually works right.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Geomaris:
In Europe the G Pad 8.3 price is indeed more competative (299 euro) compared to the Nexus 7 2 (260 euro).

Some new reviews are a bit reticent with respect to the 8.3.

E.g. at tweakers.net (sorry I'm not able to post a link at this moment here)

Pro's:

- build quality

- screen quality (apart from the max. brightness level)

Con's:

- battery life (30-40% under Nexus 7, approx 5.5. hrs)

- CPU use (in many cases only 1 of 4 cores working) resulting in spiky performance

Aparantly LG was able to reproduce the CPU issue and it seems to be software (ROM) related.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
Can you elaborate on the CPU issue? Is it possible this is only an issue on the European rom? Engadget mentioned slight lag in their review, but I just assumed that was b/c of the stock LG launcher and that something like Nova would have no lag, but if this CPU issue is widespread then i don't know if I want to purchase until there's a fix.

has anyone who has the tablet experienced any problems with lag or the CPU apparently only running on 1 core? How does this thing run with a good launcher like Nova or Apex? (I hate that blog reviews don't cover this point...I don't want a review of the stock launcher, I want a review of the device!)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] jake21:
engadget posted their review this morning; battery life is a bit weak (same as nexus 7) from their review. I was kind of hoping for better battery life esp at the price point.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I think the gsmarena review is a little more thorough than the other reviews mentioned here.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] solnyshok:
CPU issue is detailed here http://tweakers.net/reviews/3248/3/...de-verf-hardware-en-prestaties-kan-beter.html

you need to open this in chrome and it will offer to auto-translate the page for you in English

This is worrying me, because as owner of LG Optimus 3D I am well aware at how slow/non-existent LG software upgrades are

I will certainly wait until this gets sorted out
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
I don't know any specifics about this software running on 1 core, but in the desktop world, that's not unusual. Not all software is written to take advantage of multiple cores. This sounds to me like it might be an issue with the test software. What matters is users' experience with running real-world applications. Everything I've heard makes it sound like reviewers and users have been happy with the performance. I would not worry much about a test finding like this. In addition, I'm hoping that custom roms will be available for this tablet sometime soon.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
yeah GSMArena didn't seem to have any issues with their benchmarks. I mostly care about real world performance so that's why I'm wondering if people are experiencing any lag. I played with an Xperia Z tablet at best buy last night and despite having very similar internals to the Nexus 7 it was laggy as hell, so I think these custom launchers are probably the biggest culprits.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Geomaris:
The AndEBench (native) score in this test was 6704 as opposed to 11958 for the Nexus 7 2. Aparently this benchmark is supposed to use all cores, but the G Pad 8.3 only activated two. In the multithreated version of the test only one core was activated. According to the reviewers LG Netherlands could reproduce these test results, but had no explanation yet.

Quote from the review (google translate):

Some comments on this review also poit out that this core issue may also be responsible for the low battery life.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I think you nailed it. If you look at the new Note 10.1 you'll see the same problem. Going to the "My Magazine" feature is painful. The thing lags horribly. I think these tweaked launchers are causing more harm than good. The manufacturers want to separate themselves by dressing up device but only manage to constrain the performance in the process.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] ColdSunNC:
I ran the AndEBench Native test on my black LG Pad 8.3 with no other apps running (closed by holding home), not rooting and using the stock launcher (I'm in US):

1st Time: 13335

2nd Time: 9599

This tablet is jet fast for me and I'm happier than I was with my Nexus 7 or iPad Mini. I haven't run into a single problem, but I would love to put Cyanogenmod on this baby. I don't know what is going on with this benchmark, but it is a bit strange. I haven't noticed any issues at all.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] MRCANNADY:
I just returned my Galaxy Note 8 for the G pad at BestBuy Great built device but I think I'm also having the cpu issue Running the same test that you posted I got a score of 6571 and then ran it again and got 7371 :(

Hopefully this can be resolved soon

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On another note on my Galaxy Note 8 the screen was pretty bright at 45-50 percent However on this tablet I have to boost the brightness at least at 60 percent to have a nice clear display Leaving this at 45 percent is a no go as the screen is pretty dark
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Sean09:
Kingo root worked great for me. One click failed. Thanks for the kingo suggestion!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Geomaris:
Engadget also reported the bumpy CPU thing in their review.

Since the hardware itself is OK and test show spiky results, it is indeed likely a software implementation problem.

Hopfuly solved soon too.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] tribemac:
Rooted with Kingo root working great =)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
Really?? How did you do that..?

I have downloaded windows drivers, Kingo root program, it repots connected Android device, but when I click on Root it gets canceled and states "Root failed! ConnectionUnstabitil".. :crying: ;)

Don´t you know where may be the failure?

Thanks! :good:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Sean09:
Make sure your drivers for the tablet are installed properly and Usb debugging is on. It'll work then reboot the tablet.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] fattymcdirty:
For me, Kingo is stuck at "Connecting" - I installed the USB-drivers from the LG homepage "LGUnitedMobileDriver.exe", ADB interface is recognized in system - any help? :(
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
Having the same problem....Drivers work properly ( according to Device manager ), but the process stopes itself during Connecting...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rumatt:
Is this thing in best buy stores yet or are they actually waiting until Nov 3rd?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
I called a couple of local BB stores today and got some odd info. One store said that they had 2 G Pads (in black only) and were not expecting to get any more. Another store that I called said that are scheduled to get 3 units, but not until Nov 10. This makes me wonder what's going on. Is there a problem with availability from LG? Or is BB pulling back from selling them? Maybe some other retailers will start to sell them.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
It's in stock at several best buys in my area. I picked up a black one last night and they had 3 more in stock.

It's a pretty sweet tablet but I'm still evaluating if I want to keep it. I love the screen size, but the smooth back is hard to get a grip on and the tiny bezel makes it kind of hard to hold it. I might just exchange it for a Nexus 7 and get used to the smaller screen after all. I also am not in love with LG's skin. We'll see.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Would some kind of case make it easier to grip?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I asked a rep in tablet area of BB last night and he said he'd never heard of the G Pad 8.3.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
I'm not surprised. They don't seem to know much about the ones that are already on display in the store, either.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
The best part is they only had 1 iPad Air and one of the sales reps was carrying it around showing it by request only.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rizaldi:
The BB rep in my store also did not know anything. However, I used best buy online and it showed that I can pick it up immediately from that store. I showed that to them and they were able to find some in stocks! It's just that they have not put any on display.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Zarrick19:
QPair not compatible with old stuff like Xperia X10 Mini etc.

G Pad successfully QPaired with ZTE Grand X IN, it's a great and useful little feature
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
It would appear BB is not really interested in promoting the LG tab. Contrast that with Samsung who had a huge well organized display in my local store and 6-8 Samsung shirted Reps answering questions.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
probably but I like how light and thin this thing is so I'll probably just deal with it as is.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Julosch:
Guys this is good news:

http://www.mobileosworld.com/2013/11/google-leaked-nexus-8-tablet-on.html

This might be the nexus 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
I just saw this story about a photo on Google's Android Apps website that some people think looks like it could be an unannounced Nexus 8 that's based on an LG G Pad. Take a look and see what you think. If this is true, it would be great news for anyone interesting in owning a G Pad.

http://techfat.com/2013/11/03/google-doubles-lack-privacy-leaks-likely-8-inch-nexus-tablet/
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rumatt:
Why couldn't it be 4x3. :(
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I'm skeptical of a new N8. I'll believe it when I actually see it. Irrespective, it won't have a SD card slot or IR blaster. If it's true, the best we could hope for is LG didn't eff up the touch screen like Asus.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rockbastard:
Screen - light bleeding

Could any of you please give a heads-up on the screen, on the LG 8.3 - light bleeding etc.? I returned my Nexus 7 2 because of to much light-bleed and dead pixels - which simply ruin the whole experience?

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] kandelai:
More fuel to the rumor of a Nexus 8. http://goo.gl/8LpqcF

I hope it is true. Reviews of the LG G Pad 8.3 say it has some lag. Not surprising with the touchwiz overlay. Still it got high marks on everything else. I find the 8" tablet to be the perfect size. My note 8 is ok, except for the Samsung lag, display size and slow to update, if at times, at all.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
Just got back from BB, still no display or stock in my local store. Available in Little Rock, AR stores but not Seattle ...WTF!

I'm literally gonna start hollering "S**t!" and flopping around on the floor.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
Any ideas here, please? THX ! :cowboy:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Make sure you reboot your PC and try again. If that doesn't work try uninstalling and re-installing the drivers.

Use a different USB port. Make sure the cable is good. Maybe try a different PC. Sometimes these things are flaky.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Sean09:
Do you know what tablet you're talking about? Lg didn't use touchwiz or lag.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
arendoo from

I´ll try.. Thanks :good:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
probably the most compelling evidence yet that the LG-V510 is a nexus 8:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/LG-V510-Could-Be-the-Nexus-8-Tablet-396752.shtml

Really starting to warm up to the G-Pad, but seeing how little hype and fanfare it has (not even on Amazon yet, no XDA subforum, etc.) I'm definitely concerned about dev support. I really wanted a small tablet like right now but I might bring this back and wait for the Nexus 8 which will probably be my ideal tablet.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] MightyT01:
FYI, Android Central has a dedicated forum for the LG G Pad:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g-pad-8-3/

Plenty of actual owners to ask questions of on that forum.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Very interesting. I hope the rumors are true and that the N8 hits the market soon. Another take on this is that if the N8 is based on G Pad hardware, it could turn out that software for the N8 will be easily adapted to the G Pad. This would be great for G Pad owners and if, for instance, the N8 omits the sd card slot (as Google is prone to do), the LG could be turned into and N8 with an sd slot.

This is all very speculative, but we'll see what happens!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
So I have done it finally.. I just followed the manual on the other computer and it started to work.. So it is rooted! :o) Thank once again! :good:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Glad you got it to work.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mustbepbs:
Do they even read the device request thread? I've also sent two emails. You'd figure with active threads in two different forums for the G Pad would alert the mods, but it seems like they're sleeping. Funny, they jump on you real quick when you do something wrong.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Zarrick19:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G-Pad-8-...S1V500-Slim-Cover-for-Tablet-PC-/181246037752

That's what I'm waiting for. But it's pretty expensive...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Sean09:
I'm buying the cheap case until decent ones are made for less cost. The existing selection of cases is bad and overpriced.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
That's a ridiculous price. Hopefully, there will be some cheap options soon.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
I am waiting for this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00G5Z90ZA/ref=pe_385721_37986871_TE_item , payed it yesteday..
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Zarrick19:
Oww, I dont like these leather cover stuff. The Voisa SS Case is slim, can be used as a stand and is Quick Cover compatible.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] frenk83:
Yeah, I do agree, but I would not buy it for that price....
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] slowdyve:
How much battery do you lose on idle? Mine just lost 10% in 15 minutes on idle. On my S3 and my previous nexus 2013 on idle, during all night, I lost 1%...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Zarrick19:
Some apps must have been running in the background or I dont know. Through the night (10hrs) I didnt lost a %, it was still 100%. And Im very pleased with the overall battery life
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mustbepbs:
Same. Battery life has been about what I got on my Note 8 and Nexus 7. Even at high brightness (70%) I'm getting through the entire day with over 4 hours of screen time.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] isdchua:
I think the battery isn't that good on the first use cause it's calibrating or something, am I right?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] MightyT01:
LG has published the source for the G Pad here:

https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=NAME&search=LGV500

Props to bigcatman over on the Android Central G Pad forum for posting this.

As an aside, this G Pad was stupid simple to root. Would love to see some development on it.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
That's a beautiful thing! This will increase the interest of developers to cook up some alternative ROMs.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Russellmania:
gonna be tough if we don't get our own goddamn subforum
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Agreed. Pretty sure they'll give us one eventually.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Reckoning:
I decided to pick up a Dell Venue 8 Pro until the G Pad shows up on Amazon. Best Buy doesn't have the LG in a single store west of Denver. Obviously, why would you want to send stock to LA, Phoenix, Portland, or Seattle when you can just send them all to $&@%ing Kansas and West Virginia.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] woody1:
Can't you order the G Pad online from BB and have it sent to a local store?
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
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Post if you have done the same.

Disclaimer: Not for faint heart. Do not try this..
[Xperia Z1 General] adriansantos:
It hurts bruh!!