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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
From my recent memory:

1. I was on MGA prerooted by [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION]

2. OTA updated by stupidity to MH8; checked in DL mode, Knox 0x0

3. Flashed Vega MH8 prerooted by [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION], Knox 0x0, everything working flawlessly!

4. Odin flashed stock MH6, Knox still 0x0, of course

Did't go on MJ5 4.3, because I was patient and waited for reports from other people. My conclusion was that 4.3 is more secured and you could end with 0x1 easily, so I stayed with 4.2.2.

I didn't use Xposed to fake system for official status, for me its enough if I can flash back stock rom to be official and 0x0.

Keep in mind that tere is no Vega version for S4 LTE, but now you can use MEGA instead.

My advice is to read that thread a lot and to be very careful, many strange things and unexpected flag tripped cases...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RippeR37:
[MENTION=4173685]jjnhl68[/MENTION]

1 and 2 - same for me.. i've just got my S4 and wanted to have up-to-date rom (pre-installed was same old ****), quick ota without notification of any KNOX upgrade and "omfg wtf did u just do im so stupid blah blah blah..." :p

Yea i'm familiar both with root de la Vega and Mega rom (not aviable since MJ5 has other security measures so that you cant reflash it without tripping flag, so i'm not going for 4.3 anytime soon. I'll skip mega/vega version at all, got to ask someone from my country on local forum if they have done that already and maybe someone woul answers, but i think changing CSC shouldnt be that much problem. Not to mention that i has carrier specific phone and have international rom now (no KNOX version yet) so... :p

Thanks for help man! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ricky0001:
Please help me. I somehow messed with my galaxy s4 and went back to stock rom . I found out MH8 was latest rom for NEE countries. But I got knox void 0X1 . It doesnt really matter for me as i don't care about warranty. So I went ahead and first rooted my phone , then philz recovery , then flashed custom rom Foxhound Rom 3.1 . So far so good. But here comes problem . Foxhound rom advise to upgrade the modem to MJ5 and my modem currently is I9505XXUDMH8 . When I try to upgrade to MJ5 , i can't use phone , youtube and music and there is no sounds. How can I upgrade without all these issues. Other reason for upgrading is also I lose signals on MH8 modem and sometimes phone reboot by self .
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverhunk:
you cant
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardsar:
Ok read this thread but still not sure. I'm in uk csc is btu and waiting for 4.3 update so that I can you my galaxy gear. Can I update to 4.3 with say the German version and then change back to btu when released without triggering knox. The thread in the general section states that using odin will trigger the knox flag (stated in the opening thread). Uk Btu always seems to be one of the last to get released.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leijonasisu:
This is not the place to ask for rom/flashing help. Go ask in the foxhound thread.

No. If you update to German 4.3. You can never change back to anything else. EVER.

You can't go back it will fail. Plus flashing anything will trip a flag. If you are on 4.2.2 you can flash to German 4.3 without the flag tripping.

Honestly why do you care so much about BTU? All official firmwares are the same, except perhaps some small region specific apps that you can just reinstall yourself etc. It's only say carrier specific branded firmwares that you have to actually worry about something.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neemzeey:
Yes, you can without any issues as long as it is same android version. I already tried 3x, First DBT(German), then GLB(Philippines), & I am currently on ITV(Italy). No triggering of KNOX happened.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ardsar:
I'm currently on 4.2 2 btu mh8. So can I flash 4.3 german without tripping flag. Then I can Flash any 4.3 rom. Is this correct?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neemzeey:
Yah, right!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foflarage:
Pb on Google Edition Android 4.3 by Jamal

Hello

I just installed a Google Edition Android 4.3 on my Galaxy S4 GT-I9505 using the ►►[AOSP]Official 4.3- S4 Google Edition- Finaly v2.0 - Feel the Experience of Nexus◄◄.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2348272

Every thing seems ok except the most important thing ie the PHONE application is not working!!! Wifi is ok, the SIM network is ok but the phone ap is not working.

Could you please help me solve my pb?

Thanks in advance for your help!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
sorry this is not related to knox, try in the general Q&A forum. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] foflarage:
ok thank you
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andreipga85:
Hi Mates,

i've read a lot in this thread and a lot regarding bootloader.

i am on old bootloader but i want to confirm with you also because i am on another 4.2.2 roma and i uant to flash omega 13.2

right now i have following bootloader version XXUBMG7 ; RADIO: unknown ( baseband xxUAME2 )

and in ODIN mode i have only this 5 lines:

productname :gt- i9050

current binary : custom

system status : custom

csb-config-lsb: 0x30

write protection : enable

can i safetly flash omega 13.2 and old bootloader radio in this situation?

thank you very much!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paulolz:
Old Bootloader, what can I safely do?

Hey Guys,

I do realize there is information about this in this thread and in other places, but even through thurough reading, I could't find an adequate answer to my question. So this is my situation:

I have a Luxemburgish (German), unbranded i9505 which i got in June of this year with XXUMBGA. I rooted it with CF-Autoroot and installed a superslim "stock" TW ROM, but soon installed the Google Edition 4.3 ROM by CoolBoy which I use to this day. As such, I still have a non-KNOX XXUBMF8 bootloader (From the Superslim ROM) running JVR66Y.S003. I'm using Philz Touch Recovery.

Here is my Download Mode info:

PRODUCT NAME: GT-I9505

CURRENT BINARY: Custom

SYSTEM STATUS: Custom

CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30

WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

Now that the official 4.3 TW ROM is out, If I want to flash a variety of this or future builds, how would I circumvent a KNOX bootloader installation? Is this even possible / would the ROM work correctly? Simply put, what can I safely do without risking "contracting" the KNOX bootloader? :P

Any help is appreciated :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
You could have asked in the Omega thread........You should be fine if you follow the instructions in the Omega OP for the old bootloader. You DO NOT HAVE KNOX and flashing Omega will not change this fact.;)

---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:22 PM ----------

It is possible to update to 4.3 using custom ROM WITHOUT the need to update the bootloader and contracting the KNOX POX.........You just need to search for them, and carefully read the installation procedures.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexxx:
Well, I had DBT and flashed ITV => knox flag to 0x1.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Very confusing. Few post above someone flashed official 4.3 from DBT > Asia rom > I TV without triggered the knox flags.

BTW I had tested Z1. Rooting was easily done without flash counter and knox problems. Yet less bloat ware. Antitumor scored 33k. Good.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noodlecore:
What about stock kernel from the latest firmware e.g XXUEMJ5.

I am planning to flashing latest stock kernel to the old bootloader, just a kernel only not a full FW.

My question is -

will it update the bootloader to knox bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverhunk:
Can you link me how to do that or any rom that does not trigger the knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neemzeey:
All that i tried was "OFFICIAL" one. I do it by wiping/formatting data & clear cache partition before proceeding to flash another official FW. If you intend to root it then your KNOX will be on 0x1.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silverhunk:
ok.. i thought you could flash custom rom and there is no way to flash any custom rom since i dont have custom recovery (which triggers the knox if i flash it)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] entertainer99:
??? Reasons why it's IMPOSSIBLE to downgrade firmware version (4.3 back to 4.2.2) ???

Hi XDA,

Can anyone list down all (if not some) of the reasons WHY no one can downgrade their firmware to the original version of Android the S4 came with? Kindly list below this post in this order thanks.

Reasons:

1. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

2. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

3. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and so on…

Sorry for the inconvenience!

From,

a junior member of XDA,

entertainer99
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robertogl:
Bootloader.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
1) Samsung not allowed us to downgrade else will be no knox flag shown.

2) Sell away S4 to get Sony Z1. Rooting without flash counter and easy. Less bloat wares so it was running smooth like butter.

3) don't care of knox counter flag problems and you can flash customer rom/recovery etc and you will more enjoying of S4.

Using Samsung device since i900 > i8000 > S2 > Note2 lte > S4. This was my last Samsung device and will not returned back like I gave out windows mobile device and never returned back.

Today I joint to the knox flag team. Cheer! I have freedom now.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noodlecore:
What's the different between kernel and bootloader. Let say I am currently on old bootloader MH1, due some circumstances I flash with stock MJ5 kernel. Will it update the bootloader as well? Tq
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Download mode will tell you everything.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fergdizzle9090:
so how do you get knox? if i flash a new rom will i get knox and set off the flag?

also should i update from mdl to md9 or will that give me the knox flag?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
Please check the first post of this thread.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fergdizzle9090:
so upgrading to md9 will trip it correct? what does the upgrade to md9 actually do?

but my main question is if i dont have the new firmware, so no new md9?, will installing a new custom rom do anything with knox or will it not matter because i havent upgraded my firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace_of_spades021:
hi all...

does any one try this method on I9505 with 0x0 knox???

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2499546

and what is the result???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidamnesiac93:
Hi everybody,

my question is the following:

- Will flashing another official 4.3 firmware trip the KNOX flag? -

My previous (official carrier) firmware was a 4.2.2 I9505XXUDMH6 (I9505MOTDMH6), CSC - MOT (Slovenia, Mobitel), which was then CF-auto-rooted.

I flashed the German 4.3 official firmware as I was curious, and thank God didn't try rooting it, so my flag is still 0x0 (just checked in the ODIN mode). But, let's say I want to try the Italian 4.3 firmware, or flash the official 4.3 from my carrier when available (which probably won't happen for a month), is that possible without tripping the damn flag? Or am I now stuck forevermore (as long as I want to keep the warranty) with the German firmware?

I don't have any intentions of using a custom rom on my S4 (for now), as I was quite content with the official firmware (rooted of course, but I can wait for KNOX-safe rooting method to come along).

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
the knox flag will be triggered if you flash an older firmware with older bootloader not sure how it is going from 4.3 > 4.2.2 but coming from 4.2.2 > 4.3 (different CSC) doesn't trigger knox since its official firmware
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidamnesiac93:
I already did 4.2.2 >> official 4.3 and it's fine, obviously.

My question was official 4.3 >> official 4.3 (but different CSC), but I guess that is okay as wel..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carloss2013:
Hi im on mdd bootloader do I need to upgrade at any point or am I fine on 4.3 with that thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vagaBond07:
If I flashed my ROM with PAC-man ROM it will flagged my Knox warranty right?

But will it give me a lot of problem if Knox bootloader is replaced with a custom bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCM73:
Changing CSC x KNOX

I have the same question. I have a Brazilian unlocked Galaxy S4 i9505 (ZTO) that before KNOX being implemented I upgraded the ROM to a newer version AND a different CSC, replacing the bootloader, kernel and ROM so that I would have a BTU 4.2.2 version, so my phone thinks it's British now. :-p KIES and the phone itself declare "it's all legit Samsung stuff", so I can even OTA.

Question is: I want to do it again, going to the 4.3 German ROM. I already have downloaded the bootloader, kernel and ROM and am ready to flash them to the phone via Odin, as before.

Can I do it, without setting KNOX to 0x1? I intend to clear everything and start clean, so my plan is to:

- clean everything

- flash the bootloader

- flash the kernel

- flash the ROM

- clean once again

I understand "Germans get it first" in the western part of the world, so I don't mind the newer Italian ROM, but I do mind that my phone does keep its "legitimate" status, so that I may do future 4.3 upgrades OTA. Am I doing something wrong, or, should I say, planning to?

Any advice/warning/confirmation is greatly appreciated! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexxx:
As i have said earlier, I flashed 4.3 with different CSC. Went from 4.3 DBT to 4.3 ITV using Odin and it tripped the warranty flag.

But someone said that flashing different CSC did not trip flag in his phone.

The risk seems to always exist as we do not know for sure what triggers warranty flag.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Snah:
What do you mean by you will stil have warranty?

Written by my thumbs on a state-of-the-art Nokia 3110!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Seems flashing same 4.3 MJ5 seems to trigger it not update the phone :p

[True Friendship doesn't exist]
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuscape:
I have updated to official 4.3 non rooted, Knox shortcut is there but I didn't install. Now I'm having issue everytime the phone connect to wifi there is a pop up warning about security information. How do I get rid of this annoying thing?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexxx:
ITV is MJ7. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCM73:
Changing CSC x KNOX

Did you flash all 3 (bootloader + kernel + ROM) or just the ROM?

My understanding is that the bootloader and the kernel are not regional (no CSC differentiation), but they are of course upgradeable, and are upgraded via KIES or OTA when an official upgrade procedure is done.

Maybe a bootloader that does not "conform" to the newer ROM could trip KNOX?

That's why I don't know the correct order to flash it all, if I should flash first the ROM and then the bootloader and the kernel, or first do the bootloader and kernel and then the ROM.

Since Odin is "leaked Samsung material", the same software used to flash our phones in authorized repair shops, I am expecting that eventually some "official" dos and donts emerge concerning upgrading our KNOX-cripped Samsung phones... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lorenzo122:
Hi, i have a galaxy s4 no brand italy with the last fw 4.3 (MJ7). There is any way to root the device without increase the knox counter?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
If you look around the forums, this issue has been discussed a few times. Here's a link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2455344

As of now, I don't think there's a solution for this. The fix must come from the carriers I guess.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexxx:
I flashed the same way as previous ones since MH8: tar file to AP and start.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r.spanish:
I flashed with different CSC too, using the same method as you in Odin 3.09. Went from 4.3 DBT to 4.3 BTU. It did not trip the warranty at all, still 0x0.

Not sure how you guys are going with the new BTU but it feels a bit smoother for me. 4.2.2 BTU felt smoother than 4.3 DBT...weird!

Intersting to see how battery goes but so far very happy! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lgkahn:
why is everyone flashing this.. just be patient wait.. there will be rooted or stock versions out with the knox bs removed and safe bootloaders .. you dont need to take the risk and get the latest for only a few features the minute it comes out.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QckGl:
I'm having the same problem of nuscape, but it's not the same from the one in the link. That one talks about a policy update issue. Hopefully u or someone else knows the solution for this.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuscape:
No that's different. It is security information pop up, this is a different problem. See attached.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farfrmnormal:
Here is my question, if we have rooted our phone prior to KNOX being installed and the update that has KNOX in it is pushed out, will the flag be set to indicate that we have tampered with KNOX?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fox05:
Hi,

Right now I'm on MH8 firmware with KNOX Warranty Void 0x0, but I have rooted i9505 before and I didn't use Triangle Away to reset the counter and then I flashed stock firmware and now I can't see the flash counter. Do I still have warranty? :)

Thank You.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eduardt:
Okey, I updated my firmware through odin on 4.3. However, I rooted my phone after that and now the my knox is 0x1. So i now don't have warranty anymore. Are there any possibilities someone to come with an idea and make it possible that flag to be reset. I am with the official rom and havent flashed any custom one.The only thing which messed up the things was the root and now i am very sorry.

Is that the only way out of the swamp. I really dont want to mess anymore with my phone. I prefer to have it stock and get my updates via OTAs. Even i dont want to be rooted. So, basically now the only thing which i can do is to wait the 4.4 KNOX Bootloader free, updated it and then update the official one where i will have my warranty and use my phone the way its meant to be.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanis64:
In a lot of threads about KNOX and the new bootloaders a couple of times it was mentioned that rooting will trigger the KNOX Warranty Void Flag to 0x1. But there is also no official statement from Samsung that you lost warranty for your phone. Only thing is that you can't use KNOX on this phone anymore.

Regards

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] liviu_adryan:
If I did the 4.3 update via OTA version France can install the same version with Odin without my knox appear in download mode 0x1? Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikael R:
So, scum Samsung has made it much more difficult or even impossible (?) for us to root our S4's with this new (Fort) Knox ****?

Or have I gotten this all wrong?!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GhostiNv:
I've been reading about knox but can't find a proper answer: Does the I9505G have knox or not ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chickentuna:
It's still possible to root. What's impossible was to erase the trace that you've modified the device. Therefore depending on your country you may lose your warranty.

No it doesn't. I don't own a GPE device but as far as I know the I9505G doesn't have the knox flag bec. we have different bootloaders.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peepooh:
MODEM

Hi, I don't know if someone is already ask this question...

But anyway, I want to follow the galaxy s4 sim unlocking but i already updated to 4.3, the procedure is to downgrade modem first..can this trigger the knox flag if I downgrade to old modem?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingzain900:
If you check in download mode and there's a line on Knox, then yes if you downgrade you'll trip the knox flag.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohaimed:
i am having some problem with my headphones. the volume increases/ decreases automatically. sometimes s voice opens auto. and sometimes volume button does not work. i have recently bought a new headphone. and i am sure its not a headphone problem cause it works on other phones. has anyone faced this problem? need urgent solution. this thing is driving me crazy..

running 4.2.2 stock, rooted on E300L

---------- Post added at 07:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:12 PM ----------

i am having some problem with my headphones. the volume increases/ decreases automatically. sometimes s voice opens auto. and sometimes volume button does not work. i have recently bought a new headphone. and i am sure its not a headphone problem cause it works on other phones. has anyone faced this problem? need urgent solution. this thing is driving me crazy..

running 4.2.2 stock, rooted on E300L
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MistahBungle:
^^^

What's this got to do with Knox ? (Seems 75% of posts to this thread have little or nothing to do with Knox these days)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dratsablive:
Sweet, that's good to know, because the I9505G I got from Google doesn't have this :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
Google Edition Rom

Is it possible to flash and use the Google Edition Rom without restrictions? (I know it would trip the Knox flag.)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
Ah Ok my mistake. I'm not sure with the custom kernel. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't already tried...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chickentuna:
Yeah my thoughts exactly. It's just that nobody was giving concrete answers. So I'm gonna try now and see what happens
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hawke84:
Just seen someone ask about using KT kernel and it was a solid no it won't fix things.

May be the case that we need to wait for source code
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szaboagoston:
Knoxed - what options do I have?

Okay, I ran into this knox trap. Knox 0x1. I can live with it, and I know it can't be undone, but I'd like to know what my options are to root and mod my phone, as I'm having problems. I tried the following things:

1. root the MH8 firmware - didn't work

2. install CWM recovery - worked

3. flash Google Edition ROMs in CWM - worked, but I get a bootloop, and can't use the phone

4. flash Wanam Lite in CWM - didn't work

5. flash developer made AOSP ROMs in CWM - didn't work.

Please tell me that using the MH8 stock firmware without root is not my only option.

I just ran into this problem yesterday, and I already read a lot of threads, but I can't find a good answer to these questions, and can't use the rest of the day. Anyone more experienced than me can help? Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Look HERE

I think you can flash a pre-rooted ROM with a later firmware.

Let us know...

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szaboagoston:
Thanks. I was looking at that thread, but I don't get the following:

"Reversible back to 4.2.2 - XXUDMGG and newer FW's with KNOX Bootloader!!"

"Odex - KNOX FREE - Downloads"

What er knox-free downloads, and what is this "reversible with knox bootloader"?

Also, does this mean, the the stock firmwares are my only options now, and that GE ROMs and AOSP ROMs are not possible?