yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Well, if I was in your position I'd back up my EFS folder, use Titanium to back up my apps and CSC, then flash in the very latest and newest i9505 firmware available from sammobile.com. Next, use Odin to flash in a custom rooted kernel of your choice - you've already tripped Knox so there's no point worrying about it now - and throw on a custom ROM of your choice. Last thing, restore Titanium, restore your apps/SMS messages/contacts and you're off and running...

Apparently the latest stock Kit Kat - and with that, the newest custom kernels - address those issues...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
I don't think I've backed up the EFS and CSC before, or flashed in a custom kernel. Easy to do?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Yes, backing up EFS and IMEI is done very quickly. Take a look at the link from post 1500. There you can find introductions.

Yep
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
OK, that looks good. What about CSC backup - I don't see that option in Titanium. Flashing a custom kernel? Why do I even need to flash a custom kernel?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
I never did a back up of my CSC. I don't see the sense in it to be honest...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skipjacks:
You don't NEED to flash a custom kernel. You CAN if you want to tweak certain things with how the phone performs.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
Such as?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Titanium Pro indeed has the ability to back up your CSC (Country Sales Code) information. This helps your device with modem and APN (Access Point Name) installation, ensuring it knows things like the address of your mobile network provider's multimedia messaging proxy server, and how to connect to mobile data services. As for EFS backup, there's plenty of information across XDA - and also a number of free apps on Play Store - which will help you ensure you've got a backup of your IMEI and other important details specific to your individual device.

A lot of times chefs prefer their ROM to run on a specific kernel, and will include that in the ZIP. However, sometimes you may find issues with Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and/or mobile network that can be directly attributed to a kernel that doesn't like the devices you connect to. Regardless of the ROM chef's attention to detail, not many devices live exactly the same life. I've been tinkering with Galaxy-class phones since I got an i9000 back in August 2010, jumping up at every new step. Currently I drive an i9505, and as always, I'm right on it for how to get the best out of this awesome device...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eisenbergw:
I'm not challenging you on whether or not it does it, I just can't find it. I did see an app that calls itself CSC 4.4.2-I9505XXUGNG8 - is that it? (I guess I was thinking the CSC was a partition or something).

I found the EFS backup info - thanks.

Do ROM chefs recommend a kernel that works best with their ROM, or is it just hunt and peck to figure it out on your own? I assume that they tell you if they include a custom kernel. What can you look at on your device to tell if your kernel is custom or not?

(Sorry for all of the questions - they've been building up for a while and it's nice to get to talk with someone who knows a lot more than me about it.)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
It's not an app, it's a System Data folder, and yes, include it in your backup.

More often than not the ROM chef has included a 'rooted' kernel that their ROM works best with. As I posted earlier, not all devices live in the same part of the world, so how the ROM chef connects their i9505 to Wi-Fi routers, BT devices and the telephone network they subscribe to in their home town may not work for you wherever it is you live. This is where tinkering with the kernel can make a difference to how your device works, not only for voice and data connectivity but battery life, CPU speed and also how your device deals with SD cards.

Nothing bad about that! It's what this forum is all about, and there's bound to be other people in future who'll be looking for answers to similar questions to yours. The only real thing the 'senior membership' of XDA get upset about are those N:cyclops::cyclops:BS who get on here and ask the same questions that have already been answered 1000 times already. Use the Search function - it's very detailed when you get into the Advanced Search settings, and more often than not you'll find the information you're looking for.:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] querty75:
Hello

Is there a way to downgrade xxugng8 kitkat on i9505 without trigger Knox efuse to the latest stock Knox enable fw supported by towelroot v3 in order to root my device without void the warranty?

-> which is the latest stock fw/kernel supported by towelroot and is it downloadable in sammobile?

Thanks a lot for your help

Guillaume
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2893171
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] querty75:
I followed the method. It works perfect for me. My i9505 gng8 is now rooted and Knox flag is still 0x0 firmware Samsung official. Thank you a lot people!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] splitterzelle:
knox free bl lasting?

Today i bought a S4 which layed in a bench for nearly one year. It's got the old knox-free bootloader. Now I'm wondering, am i a really lucky guy or am i forced to upgrade to the knox sh*** sometimes anyways?? I don't really miss TWz and when using alternate roms like cm

only

do i ever need to upgrade the golden bootloader??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

I'm on a 4.4.4 ROM (not TW) and still on the old bootloader.

No.

There is no need to upgrade .

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgenx210:
I'm on 4.4.2 XXUFNBE stock. Rooted using towel root.

I want to switch to CM but i don't know where to begin because of knox.

Thing is, I don't really care about tripping it anymore since I'm way past the warranty period now but what i'm worried about is bricking this phone.

Any recommendations for which recovery i should install? That's just what I'm stuck at. I can do the rest like flashing roms and modems and all that

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
hi,

There is no best one .

Just pick one you fancy , or have used before.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2419762

Some ROMS even suggest a recovery to use for installation.

Always read the first post carefully

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lither:
I have the i9505 running CM11 at the moment with old bootloader and without any knox tripped since I flash everything via recovery and I'm planning to sell the phone so I want to revert back to stock ROM so the phone can receive OTA without tripping knox, is there a way?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2265477

MGA is the one you want

It does not matter that it's Spanish

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lither:
Thanks, so I flash the firmware via Odin and knox will not be tripped and the phone can receive OTA to update to 4.4.2 when connected to Wifi?

Also can I flash this MGA instead of the Spanish one? I think it's the same except from the country if I'm not wrong
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Yes , that is the one.

;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lither:
Thanks again, just to double check, knox will not be tripped if I update the phone via OTA?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Knox will not be tripped if you flash stock firmware or OTA.

You may need to run Triangle Away before trying the OTA.

But , why bother with the update.

If you put the 4.4.2 bootloader on the phone , the next owner will be lumbered with the knox-pox.

Why not just leave it at 4.2.2 , and let the next owner decide what to do.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] angarato_surion:
Interesting in your country the warranty period is one year?

http://pariskoutsioukis.net/

Sent using Samsung Galaxy S 4 (GT-I9505)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andxit:
i'm on last intl. firmware : only things i can do avoiding knox flag are root with towelr. and nothing else ?

If i would have had a v1 or v2 bootloder, could i flash custom rom without flag ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
You can root with Towelroot and there is still a method to install a few custom roms without tripping Knox but when you are on Knox bootloader you can't get the previous one. You will have Knox forever now...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andxit:
So with knox bootl. there aren't methods to install custom roms ?

There are also with previous bootl. that i can't install ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
You can install then without tripping Knox.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310

But you can't remove the Knox bootloader by flashing custom roms.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andxit:
Ohh Thank you....

It's only on thouchwiz Rom.....but better than nothing :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Yes, that's right, but I use touchwiz rom as well and it's still good :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akz007:
Is there any way to update from 4.2.2 to the newest version without knox bootloader? Any recommended ROMs or guides available?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Only with custom roms. You can flash everything which is compatible to the old bootloader
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akz007:
Would you be able to recommend a ROM closest to stock ROM please?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Take a look at the rom threads and decide by yourself ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgenx210:
Yes. One year is standard here for most everything.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cawa5:
Russian

In my country does not refuse official samsung service if Knox 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
It is common :)

There are many areas with that :D

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cawa5:
A lot depends on the laws for consumers in the Russian law does not Knox denied warranty
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjmelencio:
FLASH

Can i flash other PDA to my S4? Because my pda of my s4 dont have kitkat update. My S4 now is 4.2.2 thanks in advance
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Which country are you from?

Model number of your phone?

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

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Well IDK about russia as of now, maybe because they know what they've made. Russian firmwares are the best. :P ;)

In india we dont have that issue :)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodo6901:
Thanks

Thanks!:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Of course you can! I bought my i9505 brand new in August this year. It had the stock Hong Kong 4.4.2 on it from Day One, and ran perfectly well on Telstra Australia's HSDPA (a.k.a. 'NextG') network without any alterations being made. As you'll see in my signature below, I've broken Knox and I'm now running it on KitKat 4.4.4. I'm also happy to report it's awesome! Bring on Lollipop!

Spot on! What's the point in asking for help about your phone unless you tell us exactly what kind of phone it is?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjmelencio:
help help

hey djshotty what pda number can i flash to my s4? my phone is openline but the pda number ni sammobile dont have 4.4.2 update. sorry for my bad english. my pda number i9505dxubmf8
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Flash any 4.4.2 which is not carrier branded from sammobile.com :)

Example : You can Flash just Australia

but NOT Australia (Vodafone)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mjmelencio:
HELP

Can u link me the url? So i can download and flash. Do i need to backup my phone first?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
We're not your mother! XDA-Developers is full of information about how to flash firmwares to phones and tablets. Please, do some searching and reading before asking questions that have been answered thousands of times!

You'll need to create an account at sammobile.com before you can download flashable firmwares. Then, use their site's Search to look for Galaxy i9505 firmware, and you'll find a list that includes this...

GT-I9505, Australia, 2014 October, 4.4.2, I9505XXUGNH6, I9505XSAGNH1

If you click on the Helper Post link in my signature below, you'll go to a tutorial that, although it's not specific to the i9505 it'll give you some helpful tips on how to update your phone.

If this post (or any other) has helped you in any way, remember to click the Thanks button below the post. Just remember, though, you're a fair way off-topic at the moment, so you're best off reading through THIS HELP THREAD for the i9505 before continuing to post here. This thread's main focus is the i9505's built-in security system and NOT 'uh, how do I flash me fone?'!:silly:

And the name's Shotty, NOT djshotty...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
He asked me about the link.

Stop being rude to newbies.

And if youre not his mother, act like a brother and help him out.

Remember you were a newbie too in this tech world and someone had helped you too to reach to a level where you are right now.

[MENTION=6143809]mjmelencio[/MENTION]

The link. Dont worry. Even if youre not from the said location, UK, you can flash it :)

And yes. Do backup all your contacts and messages and images and everything because after upgrading from 4.2.2 a data wipe is recommended. :)

Latest Unbranded Firmware. Download and Flash

How to Flash :

-Extract (unzip) the firmware file

-Download*Odin v3.09

-Extract Odin zip-fileOpen Odin v3.09

-Reboot phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)

-Connect phone and wait until you get COM:ID in Odin

-Add the firmware file to AP / PDA

-Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked

-Click the start button, sit back and wait a few minutes

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
No-one 'helped' me - instead I did a great deal of study, and as you can see I was here well before Android!

Plain and simple, mjmelencio is off-topic. It's like you walking up to a bakery and asking them to do root canal surgery on your teeth. I don't believe I was making a comment any nastier than many others would want to say themselves. I was merely pointing out that the member's questions had been asked (and answered) before, and that this particular thread is not the place to seek the help he's obviously too lazy to go looking for on his own. As I've already said, this particular thread is to discuss the Knox security on the i9505, and not where you ask, 'uh, how do i flash me fone?':eek:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Let him do what he wants to do.

If you have a problem and are a very old member, press rhe report button on his queries.

Being senior members it is kinda our duty to help noobs even if they irritate at times. :)

Dont lose your cool. Be nice even with the lazy ones :)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdamSanJuan:
Does Knox affects Triangle Away? Cause I tried to use the said app and it was somehow successful to reset my flash counter to zero but when I tried to check for software updates,"Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available" still appears.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Yes Triangle away resets the binary counter. But you can't delete the Knox counter with it. So you are on the old bootloader.

You can't update because your status isn't "official", i guess.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MeGaBeSuNTa:
Hello everyone.

So my Knox void is 0x01

For what i've seen theres no way to put a custom rom in Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505)?

Not even returning to Firmware 4.3????

Is there no turn around to put Knox status on 0x00???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkerTimes:
Of course you can flash custom roms. Who told you that nonsense?

You're right, there is no way back to Knox 0X0
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MeGaBeSuNTa:
Well, i can not enter in Clockworkmod recovery mode, how can i install custom roms???

So whats the fix to enter clockworkmod recovery mode???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdamSanJuan:
So how do I reset Knox counter?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
(A) YES you can install custom ROMs, click the link below to choose one, then follow the ROM Chef's installation instructions.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-develop

(B) NO you cannot return to Knox 0x0.

Please do read through this thread before asking a question that's been answered 1000 times already. For the 1001st time, NO you cannot reset Knox counter to zero. If you are at Knox 0x1 you can now 'root' your device and install custom recoveries like ClockWorkMod(CWM) and TeamWin Recovery Project (TWRP). Then it's a case of choosing a custom ROM from the link above and following the ROM Chef's instructions.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AdamSanJuan:
Sorry but how do you install custom recovery and what does it do to my phone?

---------- Post added at 07:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:52 PM ----------

How do you solve this aside from flashing the stock firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Please, this thread is for discussion regarding the Knox security system found in the Samsung variants of Android KitKat firmware. Instead, you should do some reading through...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2192886

where experienced XDA members have already answered questions similar to yours.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Thanks mod.

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Nah, mate, that's just me gently prodding a n00b in the right direction...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nic.stl:
I love this reaction [emoji106]

You're a good guy bro
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Im sorry :)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "

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Thanks. :)

But it was just in a good sense. :)

I know noobs can be very irritating at times, but then helping them out is what we are here for :)

If we know, why not pass on.

If you read the kind of posts i used to write back in 2012, you'll laugh like anything.

So, I've been helped a lot by MANY and now that is why I'm helping :)

Iv got nothing against Shotty :)

He has done more than enough for our forum too.

[MENTION=1263460]djshotty[/MENTION] I'm sorry If i was ever rude. :o

Hope you'll forgive me and clear out all the differences :D:thumbup:

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
All good, just trying to get someone to see that this thread was the wrong one to be asking those kind of questions...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moloch993:
Well, as the warranty of the phone is over (more than one year old I think), knox set to 1 won't change anything if I need to send it to samsung for repair..

Thank you for this thread.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] annson08:
Does the "find my mobile" feature still works even after knox has been tripped? That's the only thing that's keeping me from flashing custom recoveries. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JeryKing:
hi

i have gt-i9505 black edition also using stock black edition rom. when i open first time to download knox data its shown please wait after few second its closed,

any solution plz help me out

thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MichaelHaick:
Fixing the Knox Void Warranty 0x1

Please I understand the Knox Counter 0x1 cannot be reset. Does it mean it cannot even be fixed even if I am willing to pay for it? Does it mean I need to buy a new phone as I need the Knox application ?

Please kindly advise.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Yess. Or act like a baby at your ssc that your knox does not function. Thwy will okay it hopefully.

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ?"
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djshotty:
Sorry mate, but there's no amount of money that will return Knox 0x1 to 0x0. I am surprised, though, that the creators of Knox haven't offered a 'bounty' to anyone who successfully proves it can be restored. If you do need Knox, and your device is at 0x1, I'm afraid you're going to have to buy a new one - or perhaps a second-hand phone which hasn't got a custom recovery installed.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Acting like a baby on a stock rom with all the things official can buy you sth. ;)

Knox can be reset on the note 3 exynos. :)

Im sure samsung has a particular firmware for all this stuff.

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ?"
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MichaelHaick:
Chain fire

Please does any one know how to get in touch with Chainfire or how to send a message to him as I don't have much experience with the forum,?

Please help
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
This is a knox related thread.

Try just posting your question here:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/help

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackyqxl:
I am still on old non-knox bootloader and I have a nandroid backup(4.2.2), if I flash new firmware/Rom like 4.4.2 or Lollipop in the future. Can i still restore back to non-knox bootloader from nandroid backup? If not, will my nandroid backup still be able to restore and works as before?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
[MENTION=6179151]Jackyqxl[/MENTION]

Once the bootloade is updated you cannot downgrade it.

However you can restore your nandroid backup :)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FlanjeUK:
You can also keep the old bootloader and flash pretty much any custom ROM without tripping the flag. I have flashed Jellybean, KitKat and now Lollipop ROMs and I'm still on the old 4.2.2 knox free bootloader :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackyqxl:
So restoring nandroid backup will still work with updated bootloader, right?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DeepankarS:
Yeah it works :)

But bootloader will remain knox enabled...knox wont go away :)

"If someone helps, never forget to hit thanks ? "
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackyqxl:
those new ROMs you flashed are knox free rom, right?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rajuki:
Sorry but what I wanted to highlight was problem specific to the 4.3 and Knox. Didn't want to bring benchmark in it..for the show off but to show that what's not working for me :/ I would like to understand what do I need to do to get a fully functional device plus ROM config
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frnkly:
wrong thread you should post in q&a this is about knox....