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[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
note 2 to 3 not compelling upgrade

very useful, thanks.

I was considering upgrading when Note 3 prices fall, maybe early 2014. But now I am far from sure especially with Samsung's stupid region locking.

Reasons to upgrade:

IR emitter for TV remote control. Vaguely useful, perhaps in bars and restaurants when their TVs are turned up too loud so's I can turn them off or down!

USB3. Possible good for faster charging off computer and occasionally dumping in a load of music files.

802.11ac. Maybe I'll upgrade one day at home?

Display. Reports suggest it's easier to read outdoors.

Reasons I was considering not upgrading:

Note2 can support all the note3 software. We just have to wait for Samsung to release it. Or androiders to kang the note3 rom.

Am happy with 720p display. I have quite good eyesight, with corrected vision (short sighted) and I never feel my Note2 needs more pixels on the screen. A better sensor in the camera for low light would be nice but the camera is good for casual shots.

Camera already good enough.

NFC antenna. I like the NFC antenna not being part of the battery so I can use Anker third party battery which gives as good as OEM battery.

S-Pen already good enough fine. I got used to the only minor nuisance that the off-screen capacitive buttons couldn't sense the pen.

CPU already fast enough.

802.11ac wifi. I don't have anything which supports super high speed wifi. I'd end up buying an 11ac access point, then would want to upgrade my laptop wifi card too.

Besides, 802.11a/n is faster than my broadband at home. And at work we don't even have 802.11a.
[Galaxy Note II General] mazdamiata210:
I too have the Note 2 (international) and the AT&T Note 3... I can say that if you don't have an upgrade available it definitely IS NOT worth paying full retail price for the phone. I signed a new 2 year agreement to get it for $288.88 and I can turn around and sell my Note 2 for $350-400 easily making my money back...

The pros with the Note 3 are that the screen is absolutely beautiful! Besides the S4 this is the most amazing screen I have ever seen with my own eyes. Next, comes the software. There's a lot of new small changes that make things easier to use, however most of these things will be coming to a Note 2 via an update. If you're into aesthetics then this device looks more "premium" over a Note 2 and I almost don't want to cover it with a case.

As far as performance goes, you can notice it slightly. Apps open faster, but it could be due to the increase in screen sensitivity also. TouchWiz eats up over 1 gig of ram leaving a little more than 1 gig free for user apps. On my note 2 with my custom rom I would use about 600mb of ram leaving a litle more than 1 gig free also. No improvements here.

Some buggy things I've noticed so far is that my text vibration is very weak compared to others such as email. Also every app gives me a vibration alert even if I turned it off.

There's a lot of bloat on here even for a carrier phone. Most of it is from Samsung it seems.

Besides the few "pros" I see with the Note 3, I would not recommend anyone to purchase it over a Note 2 unless you have an upgrade you can use. Especially an AT&T one with a locked bootloader, which forces you to keep all these useless apps running on your phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] pageniao:
LDDR3 and USB3 better than note2
[Galaxy Note II General] spiderio:
is it real world performance?
[Galaxy Note II General] pageniao:
i dont know what is real world performance.but

when i playing flac music and browsing pictures,note2 get lags.:(

with leaked 4.3
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Leaked 4.3 is not final. Also I hope you flashed Wanam or such 4.3 based ROMs, not just 4.3 as it is. Either way pretty sure it's Touchwizlag.
[Galaxy Note II General] carlos_sr-:
this very well note 3, but I see exorbitant price
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
There is nothing worth here to give up $450 to trade in my Note II ($850-$400), mine is so fast and so optimised for my needs that will skip the Note 3 for the next one, for me that's the end of the story.
[Galaxy Note II General] fixfox2:
Note 3 lags too (stutters ) when ......

playing flac: (44khz, 16bit, 23.35mb) and browsing pictures ( gallery, slideshow )
[Galaxy Note II General] Manjunath324:
After 4.3 leak install, my note 2 doesn't have any microlag.
[Galaxy Note II General] spiderio:
what player are you using for playing flac?

if i may ask
[Galaxy Note II General] fixfox2:
the default music player
[Galaxy Note II General] Zanr Zij:
The same feeling when I tried Note 3 with my Note 2. Note 3 is a faster response when open apps also screen touch but not too much. I'm still happy about performance, battery life of Note 2. I love Note 3 screen, new Spen!
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
Must be something not right with your Note II,since I also play flac on the stock player all the time and for hours nonstop ,browse pictures at the same time,and also play chess which is much more CPU intensive and demanding,and I have never once encountered any stuttering or a lag for that matter.
[Galaxy Note II General] cdlq456:
The gallery app lags on every TouchWiz phone, yes, even in the Note 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDvk_Y414a8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note II General] fixfox2:
The lag in "Gallery" is dependent on picture store location...i.e.

1. Cloud storage: dropbox, google drive(picasa), etc

Loading will be dependent on link speed of Wifi/data.

2. Size and Number of pictures will further slow it down.

Local storage (sdcard) should be loaded in no more than 3 secs.
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
:good::good:
[Galaxy Note II General] abbott10k:
Most people agree that it's not worth it unless you're due for an upgrade. They haven't really done much of an improvement over N2. Yes there are some new things but it's not like wow! I'll be keeping my N2 for a while, at least a year.
[Galaxy Note II General] Jonous:
No one's referring much to the new video capabilities. Personally I'm not that intrigued. 4K? How to take advantage except cropping or watching on enormous screens, which I'm not planning on doing. 120fps interesting but also not a feature I would gain much from, except having some slo-mo fun. I'm totally happy with my N2's video.
[Galaxy Note II General] mjrshark:
Simply:

You have

S go to S3 S , S2 , Note 1 go to S4

S , S2 , S3 and Note 1 go to Note 3

S4 and Note 2 waiting Note 4 or S5
[Galaxy Note II General] Ouzo:
One comparison with the Note 2 I would love to hear about is how the Note 3 performs when connected to a TV via MHL. In my experience the best way to quantify this (especially for games etc) is to run Epic Citadel at medium settings and see what frame rate you get. I tried this test on a Galaxy S4 and it really struggled. In addition to not scoring very highly you could see lots of stutters and pauses. I wonder how well the Note 3 would do in a back to back test..... I kind of wish Samsung had just developed an even better 720p screen instead of making the jump to full HD so that the Note 3 was lightning fast in all cirmumstances.
[Galaxy Note II General] Leyson:
I think there isn't any differences in Note 2 and Note 3. except the speed performance of the phone. Looks like i will stick to my Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Highly unlikely...

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[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
Barry still fighting the good fight :D
[Galaxy Note II General] GunPowder55555:
veeeeeeeery impressive
[Galaxy Note II General] Bruce lee roy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0qE0MzsXpI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
Not convinced with the browser comparison video,my Note II loads the same WSJ desktop site almost instently.
[Galaxy Note II General] MarionCast:
God, one thing I can't stand with the Note 3 is the Settings app. Why, Samsung?!

On another note, (pun not intended) I do notice some performance difference between Note 2 and 3, albeit my friend's Note 3 is very new with few apps while my Note 2 is more than a year old with almost a hundred apps. Oh, and it has LTE.

Tempting upgrade, but I'm holding on. LTE adoption isn't very widespread yet here. And other than the looks and specs, it's not that big of an upgrade. Plus, if the Note 3 didn't exist, I'd still think my Note 2 is the most awesome phone ever. :)
[Galaxy Note II General] EP2008:
When we get 4.3, our N7100's will fly... TRIP support, better ram management and OS optimizations... OMG, this is going to be awesome :victory:
[Galaxy Note II General] burningkenshin:
I feel the same way. The Note 3 is just not enough of an upgrade to justify getting an entirely new phone. I will wait to see what Samsung brings to the table next year.
[Galaxy Note II General] Khixar27:
the new update is far too heavy for 2gb ram to support...

the ram free after reboot is about 1gb followed by some light texting and scrolling settings/apps goes up down till 600-650 mb free and what iam talking about here is heavier cpu usage so i think 4.1.2 is best compared to 4.3 on note 2 coz i get like 450-500 mb used ram on 4.1.2

doing the same thing in 4.3 i got like 700-800mb usage of ram

only if 4.3 would be lighter its too damn high on usage !!
[Galaxy Note II General] Bruce lee roy:
That's interesting considering the unreleased nexus 5 is expected to also sport 2gb of ram.
[Galaxy Note II General] Khixar27:
well its running orignal google

no bloatware like samsung touchwiz stuff or htc sense blah blah

that phone has super powerful processor i guess ram managment would be more effecient due to much faster proccesing etc

iam not saying our note will not handle :P iam saying 4.1.2 runs much better

the benchmark scores will tell btw on stock i had 20858 and on rooted 4.3 i had 21856 :P

quite amazing i was impressed but the sluggishness of these current leaked firmware roms are due to not being final !!

hope they put all note 3 features with a little light 4.3 rom stuff :)
[Galaxy Note II General] snake65:
I was under the impression with android any ram left is wasted as it uses the ram to put the most used apps there to start quicker,correct me if im wrong.

Cheers

John
[Galaxy Note II General] djmax81:
Just one word "Note 3" aka up date
[Galaxy Note II General] dzontra11:
That note 2 on the vid is rooted?

I ask cause I have and Note 3 which is much faster and smoother then n2.
[Galaxy Note II General] Ddys6x:
I still using note 2. Now that i can use note3 app provided these app need so much ram. I just disable some features on startup and I'm happy with my note 2 already. Will upgrade later when note 4 coming out dont think it will make much difference on upgrading now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] futuristicsam:
Most users have problem rooting this device as most software's don't support yet but I found one easy tool (V Root) from a Chinese forum which helped me successfully root the device but unfortunately its in Chinese. Don't worry it's easy to use. Just follow easy steps.

1. Install adb drivers HI Suite or any other

2. Search and download V Root tool

3. Switch your phone to fastboot i.e press and hold vol+ & vol- plus power on button for about 5 sec it will stuck in boot logo.

4. Connect with your pc and open V Root. It's in chinese but if u've been installing softwares u'll know the next button (default)

5. After successful root the device will automatically reboot. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ferdinez:
You could have added screenshots to make it easier for ppl who wouldnt even know where the next button is but good info all the same.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freshkid87:
I have flashed, reflashed, provisioned this device many times, when customer makes call it says please re enter the 10 digit number you are trying to call... updated PRL doesn't work..can send texts fine
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] w7excursion:
This is still the Sprint s4 forum.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freshkid87:
I soft bricked my device, i tried to format system, format cache, and format data, now i have no rom, i am in recovery now, my device is a sch-r970 can someone help me
[HTC Amaze 4G] angelgaa:
What kernal is compatible with the viper Rom?
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
Faux 31 and nightmare kernel
[HTC Amaze 4G] angelgaa:
Thanks ill try it today, see which one works better for me
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
Good luck :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] malutki:
Does Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition have Gorilla Glass? I was trying to find info on this but found no confirmation.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] camspy:
Yes, it has gorilla glass 3
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] spky818:
Source? Could not find this in specs anywhere. Thks.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] malutki:
I would like to see that as well :) I believe the old note 10.1 didn't have one.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Gasaraki-:
Samsung doesn't use Gorilla Glass and never had for their phones or tablets. They use their own laminated glass which they claim is just as good. :confused:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] TheBigSaxon:
I don't think Sammy uses GG, they have always used their own laminated glass. Also FWIW, I am not impressed with GG. I have had numerous devices with it, GG1, GG2 and GG3 and it all seems to scratch up the same. Now, I will say that my SGT 10.1 is nearly scratch free after owning it for well over a year.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ChrisNee1988:
I own the s4 and s3, they both have gorilla glass, so it's possible that this has it too
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] pinn___________:
I think Corning would disagree with you

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/products-with-gorilla/samsung
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Gasaraki-:
Well I'll be...

:good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] HD1:
Ok they list Sammi using gorilla glass in some of their devices . Still don't see this particular tablet listed that it uses their glass. Last years model did not and scratched easily
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] BossAfair:
It has!

Found the specs on: handheld dotcom (cant post direct link - new...)

There it says it has GG 3

But other sources say something else, i don't know whats true...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Arla:
GG3

I called Samsung and spoke to one of their Tablet specialists. They also say that Note 10.1 2014 got GG3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] kardargo:
No gorilla glass

As I was interested in the Note 10.1 2014 edition, I put the question to support at Samsung Netherlands.

They Informed me that the Note 10.1 2014 did not have Gorilla Glass and was not scratch-resistant.

Which was a deal-breaker for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] notebooko:
Last 2 posts contradict eachother. Moral of the story: Customer service reps have no idea what they're talking about. :laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] h8Aramex:
True. To be honest, I don't think Sammy could build such quality glasses.

I mean, of course the GG scratches too, but have you guys ever used non-GG glasses?

Holy hell!

I had a Sony phone with no GG. ... A few months later it was gg for the phone.

My S3 got no scratches. My iPhone 3GS had scratches, but man, that phone was handled like ****. (it was an iPhone, it deserved it.)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] nrage23:
I got the Note 2014 the day it was released and have not used a screen protector. I do have the Samsung case. I do not have any scratches.

It is not listed on the Corning Gorilla Glass website as having GG3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] TabGuy:
I have an original SGT 10.1. Almost 3 years old. Never used a screen protector. Zero scratches.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] circuit.007:
Usually I use nova launcher to get rid of the touch wiz launcher lag but still keep all the features. However this phone is such a beast and it so fast that I don't even feel the need to switch to nova launcher. And I do like the magazine swiping down from the bottom which you can do the tw launcher.

I like the touch wiz features I don't see why people would buy this device and prefer to go to stock roms.

What do you guys think about Touch wiz? It's really improved in my eyes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] XxLostSoulxX:
We buy the device because of the hardware I could care less about the software preloaded. Lol.

Nova just is quicker and uses less resources. Plus better customizable including hiding apps, swiping, etc...

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Admiral2145:
I use apex pro.. Love the multi window for tw tho
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] staryoshi:
Touchwiz is quite impressive this time around. It's no longer a burden, but now a feature, for my purposes. The only complaint I have is that I still wish it had a 5x5 home screen. Really not sure why it doesn't.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] zmore:
TouchWhiz?

Let me tell you about TouchWhiz...

(Counting the days until CyanogenMod goes live :))
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DataHawg:
You can set Nova Prime to open any app with swiping up, down, with two fingers instead of one, etc. It has the 5 icon grid on the homescreens and the app drawer (6 if you want) and it works with Multi Window. The folders are better, the drawer customization is better, and it's themeable with just about any icon pack you can think of. The only thing that does not work for me are a couple widgets including the home weather widget but I don't use those anyway. I've had 3 Samsung devices in a row and have never used TW
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] HughesNet:
I see zero reason not to stock with Nova. TW may be nice but the grid size limits are a no go.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] MPDnnrd:
It would be nice if all stock launchers would include settings so we could make these simple changes without having to load another launcher.:silly:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lwsoccjs:
100% agree

This sums it up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] circuit.007:
Yeah this does. Touch wiz has gotten better but nova still has customization that can't be beat. I have set up the magazine app to open from swiping up and other than the couple touch wiz widgets don't work but I can live without that too . I agree Touch wiz rom and nova is the way to go. The experience is so amazing. This is the happiest I've been with a phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shaungregg:
Does pen window work with Nova? Thats all I care about, just discovered it and I'm in love.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Scyke:
Yes it works 100%
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DataHawg:
All the pen apps work with Nova including the pie launcher thing that opens when you take the pen out of it's Bay or push the button. I was concerned some of those features would not work but they all do. :thumbup:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] lm that guy:
I don't love or hate touchwiz, But I just prefer other launchers

Sent from my SM-N900T now Free
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DataHawg:
I agree. I don't hate it either. After all we still see TW in all of the settings menus. Custom launchers don't change any of that. I also agree with the OP. It's much better than it used to be and for most people it is fine but I like the options of Nova Prime and would never go back
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bobbyphoenix:
You said it as best as I could. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] thinkjoey:
my first smartphone in a while

i love the TW...i personally have no reason to change, but to each their own
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] CodyOdi:
So far I don't mind Touchwiz. I've been using the Galaxy Nexus with custom ROMs for the past 2 years now and I'm not sure if I'll do much more than root the Note 3. It has been working fine thus far for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
I've been dealing with Twiz since the vibrant. I'm fine with it. What I'm. Not I can change. One thing that it's bothering me (as petty as it is). Is the. "S finder"... How they implemented it. You long press the menu button. To make it come up but so does Google now flashing in the background. Come on Samsung Google has ment things you out on they ROM... Why redo simmering that it's better than the way you did it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] vegas217:
Touchwiz has improved a bunch.

Touchwiz has improved a bunch since it the S2, and Note 2. I am running DARTHVADER ROM and it it's nice. The TMobile stock ROM was JUNK and laggy. I was very unimpressed with stock tmobile but after switching to DARTHVADER ROM my phone is what I thought the note 3 should feel like. I am coming from a note 2 with paranoid android on it. Needless to say I will be flashing the first AOSP that is released lol.
[HTC One S] Rodrows:
So, after waiting about a year for the next stable CM version I decided to update my HOS from CM10.0 to CM10.1.3.

Now the first thing I did was find information about how to do it and I found out the built in updater was not going to work. I did a full backup and tried anyway in case all I needed was to flash boot.img but after downloading the update the phone just reboots and nothing changes.

The next step was to manually flash the boot.img myself and then install the .zip, so I did it and after flashing the img the phone gets stuck in a bootloop (the circular screen). I immediately rebooted into TWRP and attempted to install CM10.1.3.zip, but the phone does not allow me to. Here's the log it gives me:

I can flash the 10.0 boot.img back without any problems, and I can also install the CM10.0.zip stable without any problems, so the phone is not in a state of emergency, but this is really bugging me out. Can anyone help me get through this?
[HTC One S] tivofool:
You need to update your firmware.

See where it fails? It is checking your hboot and wants it to be 2.15.

So the easy way is to run latest RUU.exe to update to Jellybean, or flash a new hboot.
[HTC One S] Rodrows:
After investigating for a bit I found this thread:

http://androidforums.com/one-s-all-things-root/691874-guide-how-run-ruu-your-htc-one-s.html

It says after using the RUU.exe the phone will be back to stock, both the ROM and recovery. So if I go through with it I'll have to repeat the root process/recovery/rom flash again right? And after that, will I be able to put all the backed up data back into the phone without losing anything? (I'll flash 10.0 again and then do the upgrade, not sure if a 10.0 backup is compatible with 10.1.3)
[HTC One S] tivofool:
Yep, you will have to lock bootloader (I assume you are S-on)

fastboot oem lock

run the ruu, then unlock, custom recovery, flash rom, fastboot flash boot boot.img.

You will need to save photos, media, wallpapers, ringtones to your pc and put them back after the process. You will lose things like text messages.

I always download apps from the play store rather than trying to restore them. (less problems)
[HTC One S] Rodrows:
So even though I did a full backup with TWRP if I restore it nothing is saved? Then what is the point
[HTC One S] tivofool:
yes, you are right, if you are going to stay on CM 10.0 you can use the backup. But what is the point of upgrading your firmware? :p

So basically you are going to be flashing a different ROM by going with the new CM. Restoring your TWRP backup will put you back to CM 10.0. (with new firmware)

The point of a backup is to restore to a time that you wanted before changes were made.
[HTC One S] Rodrows:
I read that people on 10.0 who flash boot.img and then do the update keep their settings/data, and I was talking about doing the RUU/unlock/recovery/CM10.0 to have the exact same thing as before (except for the hboot) and then updating to 10.1.3

Now I'm doubting if the keep settings/data part is true
[HTC One S] tivofool:
That sounds reasonable, but if you have problems with apps or bugs, the first thing people will ask is if you dirty flashed or did a full wipe before the install.