yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

I would think that "Reversible" means you can go back and forward between the new ROMS with KNOX bootloader.

Knox-free are where he has managed to remove all trace of KNOX,but these involve a custom kernel which invalidates your warranty.

If you have a custom recovery,try a ROM from the second post.

I have seen no mention of anyone with the new Knox bootloader having a go at AOSP ROMS.

Might be worth a try...

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vivmar:
please,correct me if i'm wrong:

actually i have old bootloader Non-Knox.

if i flash with odin a rom with new bootloader ,knox will be activated as 0x0

then,if i flash a custom recovery know will be 0x1. (even flash anything else cause 0x1)

in this situation i can't (for ever) root phone,and or flash a custom kernel-rom TW based or Aosp based...

right?

otherwise if will be possible flash a tw based rom by cwm,without new bootloader ..no knox will be activated
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terrance martin:
music player & sound

I have the galaxy s4 i9505, it will not play mp3 files, it says does not support these files. I have tried different roms and its the same ,does it play some other format, also I have no sound no ring tone , no speaker , I have noticed on the net that lots of people are having trouble with this, is it the speaker that's the trouble? or software because it didn't matter what rom I had it was the same.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ace_of_spades021:
look here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2436368
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chavdar:
4.3 with the old bootloader

OK, so to summarise - currently thre is no way to try the new 4.3 FW with the old knox-free bootloader.

What happens if the new repacked version without the new bootloader is flashed over an older 4.2.2 build? Has somebody tried that?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjeMBeY:
Long story short, you will have useless phone. No WiFi, No sound, No calls.... etc..

Do not even try...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chavdar:
Could you post the results of your flashing? I am expecting an s4 and I suspect I will run into a similar problem if the device has a new bootloader

---------- Post added at 05:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 PM ----------

I have several questions:

1. if a device has the knox warranty void 0x1 can it be used with custom roms and kernels?

2. Will flashing a custom recover be possible, for example philz?

3. How exactly are no sound, no wifi, problems when flashing a newer FW connected with the 0x1 warranty void flag?

I have been searching for answers but there seems to be no consensus on these topics.

Thank!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
My biggest concern is that this would disable the possibility to use Google Edition Rom.

Is it possible to flash and use the Google Edition Rom without restrictions? (I know it would trip the Knox flag.)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chickentuna:
1. Yes you can still use custom roms/kernels.

2. Yes. But you will trigger the knox flag. Some reported that using SGS4FLASHER doesn't trigger the flag but I seriously doubt it

3. The answers is simple really. The new 4.3 leak contains a new bootloader which we all know has the knox flag enabled. Attempting to flash without the new bootloader breaks the sound, wifi amd calls. If you change your mind about the new bootloader and you attempt to flash an older "unsecured" (knox flag disabled) you void your warranty. Thus the 0x1 knox warranty void flag.

Just a reminder, rooting, flashing custom roms, kernels, recovery and God knows what else while on the new bootloader triggers the knox flag.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chavdar:
Ok, thanks for the clear answers. So actually it all comes down to sacrificing the warranty for the extended usability that root and custom rom/kernel/recovery gives.

Sent from the N7100 Galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paras:
Really s4 without root is pretty lame

Sent from my HTC One
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoveMyNewTelephone:
I agree. We should hold a petition and let Samsung know that we feel totally cheated..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohaimed:
i posted it by mistake.. didnt notice the Knox part in the heading
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Knock like anti spy ware aka Internet security software. It prompted you. It even prompted me Facebook problem into my system and been block.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mccrustin:
Rooted, but still getting permission issues

I've successfully rooted my i9505 (MH8 firmware) using CF-Auto-Root. Root checker says I have proper root. Recovery shows I have Knox warranty void 0x1 (does this matter?)

My problem is that I get "permission denied" when I try to execute scripts, even when I am in a root shell and the script is executable.

root@android:/data/data/org.example/tmp # ll test.sh

-rwxr-xr-x root root 3 2013-11-03 14:07 test.sh

root@android:/data/data/org.example/tmp # cat test.sh

ls

root@android:/data/data/org.example/tmp # ./test.sh

/system/bin/sh: ./test.sh: Permission denied

Is this problem caused by Knox? I tried to disable SELinux to see if that was the problem, but failed.

Thanks for any help, these are great forums!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Avide:
Any root working on i9500 I9500XXUEMJ8?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GekoES:
Easy question, if I have MH6 XCE (latest 4.2.2 from Movistar to Spain) and I flash the MH8 PHE (latest 4.2.2 stock to Spain) would trigger the Knox to 0x1?

Some people says yes, other don't, i want to be sure.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frango9000:
Thanks for the info!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bvhoesel:
I was unknowingly 'updated' to knox bootloader. Trying to re install CF-auto-Root because I lost root bricked my i9505. Flashing the latest know firmware for my region with odin 3.04 left the knox flags untouched on 0x0.

But the only way to be sure it is by doing it. Fro now the verdict seems still to be out on a definite answer.

Success with your choice ;).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svd1977:
warranty

Yes.you will lose your warranty once the flag triggered from 0x0 to 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCM73:
KNOX x warranty

Actually, Samsung has yet to deny warranty to someone because of KNOX. I have read multiple accounts of people who serviced a KNOX 0x1 device and had no problems, while I have not found not one single person who said otherwise, that their Samsung was denied service because of KNOX.

Many people are assuming this is an enterprise-oriented feature that got pushed to everyone, and may actually have nothing with the warranty of the phone.

Still, it is wise to keep KNOX at 0x0 because companies are like a baby's butt, you never know when crap will come out. Samsung may very well start enforcing denial of service because of KNOX someday.

After reading that they plan on putting chips in their accessories to curb the use of third-party accessories with their phones, this wouldn't surprise me at all...

Anyway, my Galaxy S4 is my first Samsung phone and probably my last one...

---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 AM ----------

Easy question. Same as mine. Does CSC changing WHILE upgrading at the same time trigger KNOX?

Upgrading stock to stock does not.

CSC changing is the question nobody seems to know FOR SURE.

CSC changing while downgrading WILL because downgrading does trip the KNOX flag.

CSC changing while keeping the same version, nobody knows.

CSC changing while upgrading would lead us to think it SHOULD be OK, but nobody knows for sure. I have read HERE in THIS thread people who upgraded while changing CSC and DID flag KNOX, and other who did the same thing and did NOT flag KNOX.

I tried to dig a little deeper but the answers were insufficient to establish what was the difference between both procedures, in order to uncover do's and don'ts.

My GUESS is that we need to flash not only the ROM but ALSO the bootloader and the kernel to the same version, but my question remains as to is there is a correct order for flashing.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fox05:
Thanks, but I meant that I don't have 0x1, I have 0x0 Knox Warranty and I didn't use Triangle Away when I was rooted and now I flashed stock rom and would like to update to 4.3, but I can't see the count. Do I still have warranty if I update to 4.3? :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikael R:
So, have I got this right, possible to root, not possible to switch rom and/or bootloader without triggering Knox?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcodde:
Sorry for this simple question. But how did you actually generate the information in your screen shot? I still can't find how to check the Knox status of my S4!

Many thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
To Boot phone into download mode ------- Switch phone off completely......press and hold POWER + VOLUME DOWN together till you see a warning triangle....Press UP...........To get out of this mode hold the power button for 8-10 seconds;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcodde:
Many thanks, I appreciate your quick response.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rixsta:
Thread Cleaned

Please stay on topic...

Dodgy youtube links are never a good idea either..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jozef710i:
Hi guys i want root my phone im on latest official OTA update Android4.3 knox bootloader knox status 0x0.

Will i be able install official ROM from samsungmobile via odin in future when i root my phone now and install custom ROM and Recovery.

And what about OTA updates will they works or KIES updates.??

I m just asking i want know my options in case i change my mind and i will want install TW Rom again. I dont care abou knox status 0x1 if i will be able to use official samsung ROM and OTA updates.

My previous phone was Gnex so when i want use official Rom again i just install Official Rom via toolkit.

Is it that simple with S4??

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlM34:
Rooting is easy - HERE

You could flash a pre-rooted ROM also - HERE

Most OTA will only work on an un-rooted device although the pre-rooted link may work with OTA......

Not sure about kies

Getting back to stock is also easy after rooting/custom recovery - HERE

You are aware of the KNOX void so no need to mention that it will be 0x1 at some point!:);)

This may have been better posting HERE as you know about KNOX;):p;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
Hi, I used CF auto root yesterday on I9505XXUDMH8 (4.2.2) in order to flash one of the stock 4.3 updates.

However, every ROM I try to flash fails and I've gotten myself very confused, and not sure where or if knox is at fault.

I do not have a custom recovery, do I need one to flash CM 10.2 or whatever, or should I be able to use stock? It fails on stock and reboots up my phone, factory reset on the I9505XXUDMH8 firmware.

Does it mater if the ROM I want to flash doesn't have any Knox built in (eg Echoe or CM)?

The easiest, I think, is to UNroot the device but I can't open SuperSU as 'no binaries installed and they can't be installed' then a Knox security policy warning. Is there any way out of this loop?

I've read up on this and confused myself, this device is for work, but I do not need to worry about 0x1 status on Knox thankfully, or need to use it ever.

I'd really, really appreciate any help on flashing an update or just unrooting and waiting for the OTA, whatever is easiest!

Many thanks, Ross.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Misterjunky:
re: root

If you have already rooted your phone then all you need to do is to flash

a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM using the ODIN flash method.

You will be able to flash any and all custom roms, themes, mods which are

compatible to your phone's specific model number.

Without having a custom recovery you will not be able to flash any custom

roms, mods, themes or anything else which requires custom recovery.

Good luck!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
Thanks a million, that's where I got myself tied up, it's definitely the stock recovery that I have. I thought I had cwm/philz installed, but nope. Been doing this for YEARS but once it goes totally wrong I paniced. I really really appreciate it. I'll flash recovery when I get home. Big relief! :)

Just as a by the way, I had 2 S4s connected to my PC so I just muddled the entire thing up into one big mess. One is rooted and the other is stil stock 0x0 thankfully! Close shave!

It turns out my stupidity is more powerful than my experience / confidence!

UPDATED: Yep that worked flawlessly first time, flashed Philz and the GE ROM for the device. I liked touchwiz a lot, since I use HTC sense a lot... now that it's gone the speed difference is surprising! WAAY faster. Thanks again I appreciate the post, no idea how I forgot a recovery! Just my SU binaries to sort out now, but I've a fair clue what the issue is in that regard!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IberianPrince:
Well I took the jump and went for the recommended Chainfire CF Auto-root... And even that left me with a tripped Knox flag.

I haven't installed anything else, just rooted the phone, which went smoothly and perfectly. I'm not particularly bothered, but I thought that others should know too.

Sent from my Knox infested GT-I9505 :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] screen:
Status?

So what's the status of the bit right now?

No way to rewrite to 0x00 yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meyhemg:
Hi.

I want to ask only one question:

I installed last week MJ5 android 4.3 with knox stock rom of Germany, DBT and now I want to move on to MJ7 of United Kingdom, BTU.

Will it rise the knox flag to 0x1 and void the warranty or not?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mark0021:
So i think these is what happened here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2457914 that causes "system deny to root" in some app like gameCIH.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenogears V:
S4

I have an European Samsung galaxy s4. I have 4.2.2 version. I have a stock rom. I have maked root on it.

I don't know why but I have new bootloader, because in it I see two line with know senteces.

But the most strange thing it is that Knox is set to 0X1.

I want update to 4.3 Jb pre rooted.

[ROM]><I9505 XXUEMJ7 JB 4.3><Pre-Rooted STOCK ROM's><Odin/CWM><Odex/DeOdex

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250824

Can some one explain What I have to do?. I don't understand what I have to downlaod, what version I have to get to my phone, or I have to take some particular pre rooted rom because I have Knox 0x1...please help me, because I new in this filed. Thanks.

I want explain what I want.

-I don't cure in future to make downgrade.

-I don't cure to install custom rom or other things. I like use original software and it is good for me.

-If possible return know to 0x0.

-I don't want loose my sms, app ecc. Then flashing pre rooted rom, can I loose my data?.

-I haven't a custom recovery...and I don't cure to change it, except if need to install 4.3.

-I don't understand question about "modem"...I hope it is included in pre rooted rom..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
I want explain what I want.

-I don't cure in future to make downgrade. - Ok don't.

-I don't cure to install custom rom or other things. I like use original software and it is good for me. - Ok so don't install!

-If possible return know to 0x0. - No. Maybe someday.

-I don't want loose my sms, app ecc. Then flashing pre rooted rom, can I loose my data?. Yes you can lose it, back it up. ALWAYS Backup. When installing a ROM, like many other avenues in life it's best to fully wipe.

-I haven't a custom recovery...and I don't cure to change it, except if need to install 4.3. Ok... so don't install one unless you need to.

-I don't understand question about "modem"...I hope it is included in pre rooted rom.. It is already on your phone.

Look, as someone who made a mess of this myself, do not go messing with your phone unless you read, read and read more. Look up what the modem is, what one you currenly have, what the ROM you are installing has feature wise etc. You WILL lose data without adequate backups etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Meyhemg:
Anyone?????
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenogears V:
What I have to install to have 4.3 pre rooted rom on my phone?. And what I have to use to back my data and apps?.

Thank You
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] supersynched:
warranty question

Hi guys,

First time posting here. Great community btw :)

Anyways, I just found out that my battery is Made in China and the serial number starts in BD (which according to some people are the bad batches of Battery)

Now my question is: I'm currently on a custom rom and old bootloader - should I take it like a man and update to stock 4.3 consequently getting the new bootloader or should I just buy a new battery myself?

I'm asking this because one of friends who went to the service center and had his battery replaced told me that they factory reset your phone and update to 4.3. I was plannning on installing a stock 4.2.2 so that even if they factory reset the phone I can just install a custom firmware again when I go home but it seems that they update it to 4.3 anyway which triggers knox.

Is there anyway around this? Should I just try bringin the battery and not the phone? (Don't think this is not an option though lol)

Thanks for all the help guys and more power to everyone!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnaye:
So even cf root triggers knox?!

Then how does one root their phone without triggering Knox.

I need root to use Titanium backup to restore my backup from another phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanis64:
Flashing CF-AUTO-ROOT triggers the Knox Warranty Void Flag, but that was mentioned a lot of times here.

Only way to root without triggering KWVF so far is flashing a prerooted Rom.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shawnaye:
Much appreciated good man.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hjertis:
How do I identify an app blocked by Knox? Says some app tries to access system without authorization but nothing more... what a great function Samsung...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] timberwolf60:
Knox like Internet security type of programmes so it can't tell you very detail but sometime it will. I had it reported that Facebook trying to access my system been block.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Robertra:
I9505G Rom for the I9505

Hi,

I'm sorry to post this message - usually I get answers from reading the threads around here, But ! This one is still a mystery :confused:

I just could find a simple plain answer to it .:confused::confused::confused:

I have a 4.2.2 rooted (KNOX warranty void... Blah Blah Blah) with a samsung TW. I'd like to install a

STOCK UNROOTED

version with ODIN of the Google play edition just like the original GPE version that comes from the play store.

Yes, I know there are version that use CWM with the same image, no thanks.

Does anyone knows if it's possible to receive an OTA updates with this version from Google just like an original S4 GPE version ?

Has anyone tried that ??

Thanks !
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xenogears V:
I have Samnsung Galaxy s4. With 4.2.2. I want to pass to 4.3 pre rooted rom.

I have (I don't know why) new know bootloader and Knox 0x1.

What guide I have to follow to install 4.3 pre root official rom?. Maybe this?.

1. Install KIES or USB drivers from here
2. Download and run Odin from here (v.3.04 is recomended)
3. Make sure that ONLY AutoReboot & F.Reset Time is ticked in Odin options
4. Download and extract one of Pre-Rooted ROM's
5. Load extracted file (.tar.MD5) as PDA in Odin.
6. Turn OFF your phone, Press&Hold POWER+VOLUME_DOWN buttons until phone boot into Download/Odin Mode
7. Connect phone to the computer and WAIT for the drivers to be installed. You will see blue or yellow indicator in left top corner of Odin, with phone connected to port: COM:x
8. Click START and wait until you see GREEN indicator [PASS], flashing is finished
9. Unplug USB cable and enjoy.
10. Use Wanam Xposed and tick "Fake System Status" for working OTA and Official Status

How to use Auto-Scripts (ONLY for JB 4.3 - Odex ROM's):

1. Remove external SDcard (just in case and if you have one)
2. Extract and copy contents of Xposed_SLIM_DeOdex.zip*** to the internal storage, example: PC => My device/Phone/"file+folder here"
KNOX_0x0.sh
KNOX_0x0_Xposed_SLIM_DeOdex
3. Reboot - VERY Important!
4. After fully booting delete Script and folder!!!
5. Reboot - EXTREMELY Important!
6. Reinsert the external SDCard (if you have one) and ENJOY!!!

***more Auto-Scripts available, for Pre-Rooted Odex ROM's Only!

and I have to download this rom:

Pre-Rooted ROM (Odex): Downloads: <<< Android Host >>>

and this

Xposed_SLIM_DeOdex_SCRIPT - Download: <<< Android Host >>>

to report knox to 0x0?

Or it is useless.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Braulio00:
Knox boot begin in 4.2.2 news modems. Samsung want to lose clients
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n0taz:
Hi all! in the 1st - sorry for my english :)

I have a question, now i have S4 with a full stock 4.3 firmware with knox and a original recovery (XXUEMJ8 Open Austria), knox flag is 0x1 (cause i tryed many custom roms before it, but there are with battery drain problems for me).

I don't care about warranty, but i want to know - will OTA updates work for me with knox flag = 0x1 ?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fran41:
No, they won't work! :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eliozo:
Hi!

I've got new galaxy S4 with XXUAMDE bootloader, so without KNOX. My question is, can I flash PhilZ Touch and then Omega 13.2 or Pre-Rooted STOCK (which version?) and still live without KNOX?

Do every ROM flash bootloader so if I want new version of ROM I have to void KNOX warranty? What about non-samsung based roms, still have to worry?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baryduke:
csc

My phone is CSC VDC. When I did flash Original Stock ROM CSC ETL.

Will the csc in the phone ETL?

Will the Knox warrants on 0x1?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Keep your current bootloader.

Yes, you can install custom recovery and ROM , without catching the knox-pox.

Always check the first post of the ROM thread to see what is included and what is removed.

AOSP ROMS are not affected/infected.

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] melqui2004:
My T-Mobile galaxy s4 M919G rooted with infamous ROM got me an update to 4.3 any ideas where is this update location on my device? Please
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malybru:
Hi,

Try asking in you own DEDICATED FORUM

:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SlashKO:
Hi

csc in phone will be ABL

Knox will be 0x0
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rory1980:
Hi guys, I have a 9505 with 4.2.2 and the dreaded knox pox currently showing as 0x0. I don't care about my warranty but I need to know if I can still root, custom recovery and flash ROM's without completely borking the phone? I really want a good ASOP rom but I've never installed custom firmware on a Samsung before. Warranty aside am I still good to go?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Predator1234:
From XXUEMJ7 back to XXUEMJ5 ?!

POSSIBLE ??? From XXUEMJ7 back to XXUEMJ5 ?!

I have read on some sites the new Knox counter will be incressed no matter what if you try to flash a Non.Knox Firmware BUT

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=2250824

HERE it is stated that you COULD go back MJ5 !!!!!

Model: GT-I9505 (4.3)

PDA: XXUEMJ7

PHONE: XXUEMJ7

Latest KNOX Bootloader INCLUDED - Completely IRREVERSIBLE back to 4.2.2 and reversible back to MJ5 ONLY!!!

Hope you can help me with that. So true, not true ??
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Yes you can.

Have a safe travel though

[True Friendship doesn't exist]