yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] arrrghhh:
After you fastboot flash recovery, IMMEDIATELY reboot to recovery. Do not reboot to Android.

Take a backup. Then boot to Android... should stick.
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] jeffreyjicha:
Yeah, I learned that the hard way....
[Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE] unnike:
Weird! I had the similar issue as described above. I'm able to successfully flash the CWM flash to the SPH-710 for me. However, can't boot INITIALLY to the CWM boot; It's able to successfully go into normal boot; But Volume-UP, Center button Power button, just blinks the custom boot screen once then the screen becomes blank for some time.

Can't get out of the Stock ROM boot up to CWM;
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quantumtransfer:
So I was having issues where i completely wiped out my phone and just had TWRP and adb push or side load was not working because my computer could not recognise the phone in this mode even though I installed every driver under the sun..

I stumbled upon this and it works, i thought i would put the word out here for folks with driver issues. This is not my work, so i will link to the OP

Just thought folks should know about this without having to dig and dig through the forums

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2263822
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] waynester21:
Hi, the box my Mega 6.3 came in states 8GB but in the storage area on the phone it says 16GB. It's a Hong Kong import. A hell of a lot of space is used for the OS apparently, too. Any reason why Samsung work this way? I know the UK model says something like 4.6GB total space where mine says 16GB.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] j0nkatz:
Here ya go.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] paul89:
Ok so is this good or bad lol? Is it unlocked?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cwalker0906:
It looks the same as international...so I would think unlocked. T-Mobile has never locked a boot loader and don't think they will start now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] unlockingsky:
really dislike the know warranty void 0x0... =(

someone please get rid of it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Well According to designgears who has an ATT, he has the exact same stats on his Bootloader screen.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mircury:
Ya, that is the same as what is on the ATT version, except for the swrev stuff. Maybe the relevant info isn't on there. I don't understand why there would be a tested recovery already for it if it wasn't unlocked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Didn't notice that. Is that an indication of a locked bootloader?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cwalker0906:
Well I guess we will know when he tries to flash recovery.....they have the T-Mobile recovery on the international thread
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mircury:
Ya, since the international version has the same screen I don't think the info means anything about the bootloader.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Praying that you're right. Still 99.9 percent positive it will be unlocked, just waiting for some firm confirmation.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
pm from bigbiff.(twrp). So I just found out that even though it says write protection enabled, that doens't mean bootloader locked from Chainfire. He says you just have to try to flash something, but he's having issues with the kernel I might see how far he gets, then see if someone wants to be a sacrifical lamb since I dont have the phone yet
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
I mean I guess we just have to try and flash CWM from Odin and if that works we should be good.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
More or less chances are were good though. If I get my phone tomorrow, ill test out the twrp build bigbiff's going to make.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Post it up here or PM me when its ready. If I have time I will give it a go.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Do you have the Note3 right now?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Yes I do.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
There is a CWM build already here :http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2454079

It's the T-Mobile one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Says the T-Mo version is out of date. I will wait until there is an up to date version available. Don't have time to really deal with a bunch of issues with the phone right now honestly.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
I just cancelled my order for c6806. I will be buying unlocked tmobile note 3 from negri since it works on ATT LTE. (Words from negri)

Also looking at CWM's device tree.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
I'm sure we will be fine. I will try tomorrow, it's my day off, I'll will be picking mine up first thing in the morning. Then all day to play on the phone. The

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Please let us know.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
Will do.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] eclipxe:
Tried flashing that. No-go. Bootloader is locked
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
Well that is really wierd, because it confirmed to work.

Really hoping this is just a simple error, because a whole bunch of us were depending on T-Mobile to be bootloader unlocked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] eclipxe:
I thought it was too - but I haven't actually seen anyone confirm this works
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
Why the hell do they need to lock the bootloader? So ridiculous that we don't have full access to our phones. I'm hoping the smarter people here figure this out.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
This is literally like the first time T-mobile has done this. So all US variants are bootloader locked then?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shin lucifer:
Can we get any more confirmation on T-mobile Note 3 is boot locked?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
it looks like it

I buying mine tomorrow. I will try to flash custom recovery. I'll be praying tonight.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
I mean I guess this can be good and bad. Maybe now devs will try harder to get around the security on the bootloader, rather than just getting the Tmobile version and leaving the others in the dust.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
I don't see this being good at all, just another annoying deterrent, that infringes on our rights as consumers.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] serialtoon:
Looks like ill be skipping this phone. Thanks for the help fellas.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ZION959:
It doesn't look good. :crying: I will skip this one for sure
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] abalosmusic:
Wtf does it mean to have a bootloader lock sorry its new to me... so that means the phone is unrootable?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] fatboy547:
Yup.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] aalupatti:
Please dont spread rumors.. It will still be rootable but not able to install custom roms..

Even the fact that its bootloader locked seems to be false... Whoever has tired to install a custom recovery was having issues. But it looks like something to do with the process or the wrong files used..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
Yea the file was verified to work. 10 days before the phone came out by someone who lives in where.. china. (not knocking [MENTION=224302]GSMCN[/MENTION] ) Right.. everyone just needs to hold off. And chill....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
What makes you say it didn't work. Details to make sure you didn't do something wrong would be great.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
I say in a few hours we will know for sure if the bootloader is locked or not since T-Mobile is selling them today. Fingers crossed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
Bigbiff ill check it out when i get home . and like i said in the pm . ill hop on irc when i get the phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Send me the link when you get it, I will have a few minutes to try it in the next hour.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mingkee:
I only want rooting the phone in order to transfer app data and delete the languages.xml in /system/csc to unlock tens of languages.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
I wont have the phone for a while, but I am going to start making a device tree tonight. Anyone flashing CWM let me know if you are successful. It looks like he just repacked it, but it might not work because it needs a newer dtb. I guess people in this forum might not be able to do that to test...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] irrompible:
I've got my tmobile note 3 in hand, but I'm guessing there is no way to test the bootloader for you guys without tripping the knox security flag, is there?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bigbiff:
I am not sure all the qualifications that cause the knox counter to trip. I do know at least flashing boot and recovery with unsigned images will. Not sure about system.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] daraj:
atm I dont think there is a way around it. Chainfire is digging in deep.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] eclipxe:
I hope I'm wrong but I've installed CWM hundreds of times via ODIN. It doesn't work on the tmo version. Tried several different versions.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Why have this warning if they have it locked up?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] daraj:
Thats bad :crying:

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Thats your standard download mode. You will have it even if your bootloader is locked,
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
Weird, don't recall seeing it on my GF's Verizon S4.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mircury:
Has anyone tried Chainfire's new auto root for the n900t?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2466423

"SM-N900T (T-Mobile US): CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.zip"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
yea i tested it good
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mingkee:
http://download.chainfire.eu/354/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.zip

This one.

Time to buy N900!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ArborRes:
Does this confirm that T-Mobile phones are not bootloader locked? or jut rootable only?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] eclipxe:
I was able to root, but not able to flash CWM
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
TWRP is up and working - check the development section. No bootloader lock.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Maverick777:
Did it trip the Knox counter? I'm about to root mine.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
Yes, it does.

Sent from my SM-N900T using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shin lucifer:
The boot loader is locked. I just confirmed it with Negri Electronics.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] daraj:
Jeez is it locked or not?? in the dev section someone was able to install CWM.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
the boot loader isnt locked i have twrp installed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mallard1983:
I can also verify that TWRP is installed and working. Used TWRP to root using updatesupersu. No need for Triangle away. Still flipped the Knox counter though, so just keep that in mind.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shin lucifer:
You dont need a unlock boot-loader to install recovery. You just loose few function, but you can still have basic stuff. Its also dont work that way for all locked phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
use twrp built for our phones http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2467001&page=2 jeez
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Pikezer1337:
False.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] daraj:
I thought you cant install custom recovery unless you have am unlocked BL
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] combatmedic870:
The TMobile boot loader is UNLOCKED. I have a custom recovery on mine right now.

I really dont think there is a point to this thread now.

TMobile Note 3 SM-N900T

Status - UNLOCKED CONFIRMED
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shin lucifer:
I dont know why you guys think that you need to have a Unlock boot loader to achieve root. There are quiet few phone with locked boot loader and still have root and recovery.

As long you can exploit /system partition you can achieve good results.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] fatboy547:
Is not just root. Ppl have confirmed twrp flashed properly on their phones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] abalosmusic:
Is this possible to do through mobile Odin? Like... do we need a comp to root?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] shin lucifer:
As far as i know you cant mess with the kernel right now. You can use roms just fine, but as long as those rom can work with stock kernel. The real reason you need unlock boot-loader, is so you can get specific kernel for Rom. So i will be really really happy if some one told me they manage to install custom kernel on this device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] yemiforest:
Root Working

Got my phone today and rooted it.Galaxynote3root.com
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ZION959:
So what you said is you can not install custom kernel right now?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
it will be possible. im not sure if chainfire updated modile odin for the t mobile note 3 yet
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Diablohtr:
There are no custom kernels to even try ATM, so let's not jump to conclusions.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mohan_kr:
hmm...

It is pretty amazing...It's like the Jimmy Kimmel Obamacare vs ACA :cool:..

Ok here it goes:

* Bootloader is unlocked. Proven by many people flashing custom recovery.

* If you flash a custom recovery (or kernel when available), your warranty will be void. (Knox counter 0x1 in download mode).

* Kernel sources are out, so yes we will be able to flash custom kernel. I know i will be building one for myself..

* It appears the "root" exploit still works (I have seen conflicting posts, when I get the device, I will be able to confirm. That will avoid tripping the knox counter). EDIT:eek:k, I see how the CF-ROOT works, well it flashes the custom recovery firsts, roots it and then restores the stock recovery, so yes it will trip the Knox counter. But obviously, I am not returning the phone, so I don't care about the knox counter.

So if you care about returning the phone, then don't flash any recovery or kernel, it WILL trip the counter and currently it *appears* it is a one way ticket, i.e. qfuse is blown, there is NO way it will return to 0x0.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] YrrchSebor:
Do you think there might be a triangle away type of thing that could work eventually, or is Knox a different deal altogether?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mingkee:
I am fine with it and it's gonna be a keeper.

22000 Quadrant is a bit too good to be true.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] musclehead84:
U still haven't figured out that the bootloader is unlocked? The only way u can flash a custom recovery is if the bootloader is unlocked. Sure a phone can be rooted with a locked bootloader but Odin does not work to flash custom things on a locked bootloader. Try and flash a custom recovery on the Verizon or AT&T model once.

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No there doesn't appear to be a way to fix it. It is done by an e-fuse. This means u would have to replace it on the motherboard.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Banggugyangu:
I think where people are getting confused is that they lack an understanding of the difference between a full custom recovery and a bootstrap recovery. On phones with a locked bootloader, in order to do practically anything with it (albeit SEVERELY crippled), the only option we have found is to bootstrap a recovery. (The most popular and feature rich being Safestrap Recovery from HashCode) This hijacks portions of your boot process to allow booting into a different recovery than the stock. You're still restricted from making changes to your boot image and kernel. The boot image (bootloader) is locked down tight. The Kernel is checked by the bootloader. If the kernel doesn't match what the bootloader is looking for, the bootloader says "GTFO".

A full custom recovery completely overwrites the stock recovery image. You can't boot to the stock once you install a custom because it's gone. The Custom is put in its place. This is only possible with an unlocked bootloader, as the bootloader also checks the recovery image whenever your phone starts up. Same problem occurs if a locked bootloader sees the wrong recovery image as if it finds the wrong kernel.

Basically, it looks like this:

Bootloader | Unlocked Bootloader | Locked Bootloader ___
v v v v
Recovery | Any Recovery compatible with phone | Stock Recovery Bootstrap Recovery
v v v v-------------------------|
Kernel | Any compatible Kernel | Stock Kernel Kexec Kernel

With more recent developments of bootstrap recoveries, a process called Kernel Execution (Kexec) has become almost common. It allows the use of a non-stock kernel with phones on locked boot loaders. It's not perfect by any means, but can be better than stock in some situations.

Regardless, the T-Mo Note 3 has been installing full custom recoveries. Its bootloader is unlocked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jrdejavux:
How can they deny hardware warranty bc of root?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Banggugyangu:
Being rooted allows for things such as overclocking which, if done incorrectly, can and will damage hardware. ATM, however, it seems the only reason KNOX is being triggered on root is simply because the manner of rooting requires installing a custom recovery. We'll see when an exploit is found that can root w/o a custom recovery. I'm hoping it'll be possible to root without tripping that. I can deal w/ stock ROM as long as I can debloat it manually. (I'm a verizon owner, so an exploit is most likely gonna be my only means of root anyway)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] les_garten:
Well, we had a guy brick his phone yesterday trying to root it.

He took the phone back and raised hell and got another phone and promptly bricked it.

They didn't count on tech support and warranty issues for people goofing on their phones.

If I'm a phone company, I'm gonna try to figure out to stop you azzholes from doing this chit.

By the way, I belong to that azzhole club.

It's like complaining about Serial Numbers, license keys, Genuine checks, Passwords, etc

They play their games, we play our games...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
I could see there being a charge for "repairing" a bricked phone. It shouldn't just be considered ruined, it's an easy fix for them right? Over clocking and frying, different story obviously. But bricked phones can be fixed rather easily from my limited knowledge, correct?

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] les_garten:
That's not the point though.

You're the Senior VP of Engineering at ATT. You not gonna try to figure out how to lock your phone down to keep people from screwing with it?

In reality, we are a small fraction of their headaches. But from an engineering challenge standpoint, it's embarrassing, and it's natural to want to clamp it down.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] paul89:
A truely bricked phone requires a replacement in the hardware aspect. Either a motherboard replacement or an internal sd card replacement.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] jrdejavux:
i understand what you are saying you can over clock and screw up the phone brick it etc but what i was referring too was why void warranty if a vol or power button stop working?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] les_garten:
Basically it just cuts down on troubleshooting.

Lots of things come tamper proofed. If tampered with, warranty is voided.

It's mainly just to cut down on the infinite amount of tech support required to determine if the particular mod was responsible or not.

Think about who you are dealing with here.

The Freakin Phone Companies who still think you should be use their phone and only their phone.

History: In the olden days, (The 70's) you couldn't even own a freakin' phone! It was quasi-illegal. You were not allowed to hook up a phone that didn't belong to the phone company. That's part of the mindset we're dealing with here.

The other part is to simplify tech support
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
If I'm not mistaken, and I could very well be, aren't most bricks caused by flashing the wrong files? Either way, it's a moot point, big telecom companies have been screwing consumers since their inception, and will continue to do so.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] paul89:
Pretty much, but there is a difference between a soft brick and a hard brick. A soft brick just requires refreshing the correct files through Odin. A hard brick requires hardware replacement.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deeznutz1977:
Or a jtag
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Warrior1975:
Exactly. I hard bricked a phone once, Samsung, you can't connect with Odin. Flashed an international ROM on a sprint s3. Stupid. But phone would have been fine with a jtag. According to them, it was garbage.

sgh-TWEAKED-889©
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Banggugyangu:
These people are indeed the problem that lead to this result...

PSA: IF YOU BRICK YOUR PHONE WITH SOFTWARE, FIX IT YOURSELF!

The only truly software bricked phone is one w/ a locked bootloader that gets an incorrect kernel/recovery (thereby destroying the ability to flash the phone in any way) or one with an unlocked bootloader that gets a failed flash on boot image (thereby also destroying the ability to flash it further). ANYTHING else is fixable. So Fix it. Stop returning phones that you mildly screwed up with software.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] glensta:
I've soft bricked my phone and flashed the T-Mobile odin firmware - didn't work and I'm not a newbie at this. Will have to wait for a fix and/or hope my T-Mobile store isn't so hip. I may have to call T-Mobile and see if they'll ship a phone and replace that way.

There are 2 other guys out there with the same issue as me. Hope someone figures it out soon. That what I get for F'n around, lol.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] les_garten:
If you decide to participate on the bleeding edge, you should be a bleeding edge developer!

Don't get involved unless you know what you are doing!

Don;t come here and cry because all the details aren't fleshed out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] glensta:
Hey Pal - stfu first of all. I'll come here and share whatever I damn well please. I'm a risk taker - made a mistake, now I'm sharing info that other's can follow the process of getting back to stock. You got a solution to offer? Or just a lame comment
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Banggugyangu:
I'm cool with people taking risks. I'm cool with them making mistakes. I'm cool w/ people posting about their mistakes in hope that there's a solution. I'm even cool with people simply venting their frustrations over said mistakes.

I'm NOT cool w/ people returning devices that are soft bricked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] glensta:
Hey, to each their own, after all we all have a right to our opinions.

I've been chatting with guys on the IRC chat who are either developers and/or much more advanced than me. I've gone through my problem with them and at this point, there isn't a solution and it may take a while to get one. Their suggestion is to exchange the phone. I'll take their advice and if anyone is in the same boat they might use this info to.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Banggugyangu:
Do what you will, but understand that returns on soft-bricked devices is what leads to locked bootloaders.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] paul89:
No offense but why should they exchange a soft or even hard bricked phone that was caused by the user when they obviously warn you that flashing custom OS's can cause problems. They should not be responsible for that. This is what causes prices to go up and locked other things like the other guy said. It's a corrupt world so this will never stop, so in reality I am saying this for no reason lol.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] glensta:
Not too worried about it bro, really. I'm one guy, come on now. LOL ^^^^^^ :good: :silly: