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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Fifth313ment:
I'm sorry bro the EVO LTE is not getting another update. They simply don't have the stomachs to tell us. They know this will banish users from HTC so they will not give a confirmation for as long as they can, IF EVER, hoping w simply forget about it. Also in that tweet he said he is working with the "Carriers" on a plan, but Sprint is the only carrier carrying the EVO LTE. So it's simply a canned (no pun intended) response.

Why hasn’t HTC and Sprint fixed the MMS picture bug yet? It’s been a year and a half?! WTF? Every time I send a MMS picture I get angry as I have to add another pic, then another to get a full screen pic you can see that isn’t compressed, then delete the first slide, then retype or paste (what I previously copied) and then send, rinse and repeat! FLUCK YOU HTC! I shouldn’t have to use a third party app to send picture messages or do 50+ things to get a decent picture to send! And the pictures that send when I don’t do anything are unreadable! Blurry to the point where huge text gets garbled! This is pissing me off, as I just had to send one, so this is a rant but I’m still pissed!

+1 on why I will never buy another HTC!

+2 I’ll never forgive them for the year I spent having to turn my screen on and off a million times as my proximity sensor wasn’t working (proximity bug)!

WindyCityRockr, you're a dev, will the newest EVO LTE update kill your and S-OFF app? I want to take the update but not if it kills the option to root and S-OFF. Thanks.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
On mobile, but I didn't see anything in his time line to indicate the evo LTE is getting 4.2
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] clownfart:
I won't believe anything until it is actually released.

That said, it is still too little too late and I will be moving on from HTC.

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He directly answered a question about the Evo LTE and said they were working on it internally and with Sprint. It's vague, but it's something.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
I don't have this phone, so I can't say for sure if the update breaks root or S-OFF. Someone will have to test it first.

I understand your guy's frustrations. For the longest time, we over at the HOX+ section didn't believe that we'd get the 4.2.2 update, but we did. And now that 4.2.2 has been confirmed for the HOX and almost confirmed for the EVO, I believe that HTC won't leave you guys behind that quickly. At least not until after the 4.2.2 update. :P
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Fifth313ment:
Did you see my post above? I STILL can't send MMS messages without going through a huge task or another app altogether. HTC doesn't care about their customers sadly. They will leave us in the dust, I'm willing to bet $100 and start a pool if anyone is interested?! LTE still sucks on the phone as does signal strength. I used to get a better signal with my OG EVO and I have a list of other issues. But I'm stuck on my contact and there is not much I can do for now. I can tell you that I will never give HTC another dollar of my money as long as I live! WindyCityRockr keep up the good work bro!

5th
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] neoshi:
Just because the HOX got the update doesn't mean we will. We're not the same breed. It's like assuming that because we share so much DNA with chimps, we will be able to have chimp babies too. Not happening until it happens, which, in all likelyhood, will be never.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jason021680:
It locks your bootloader but you still have s off
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 63sammo1:
3.17.651.4 rolling out now. Not much in it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
I'm not seeing anything in your link to suggest we'll be getting 4.2.2 or sense 5. Do you have a more direct link you could share to that information?

All I see is a reply from him regarding the Evo LTE saying, "No worries, nothing confirmed yet..."

With the keyword being "nothing".

He didn't mention 4.2.2 or Sense 5, or that we would even be getting anything at all.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
The HTC Developer who tweeted the information specifically responded to a question about Sense 5 and 4.2.2 here, stating that they are working with the carrier on a plan for the update. There's some obvious speculation here, but it confirms that there is plan being made to release the update. Whether they go through with that plan is another thing. Many people thought HTC had completely left behind the EVO, but this is proving that work is still being done towards it, however large or small it may be.

Edit: Yes, he did make that clarifying statement afterwards, but he did confirm work at one point in time. Most likely he is waiting on a specific timeline, as his response is similar to many other phones before the update was official.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xHausx:
To be honest, it just sounds like normal PR spin. This latest update doesn't exactly inspire confidence in htc's resolve to support the device if their own maintenance upgrades are using a version of android that's over a year old.

We have a handful of people here who, in their free time and without any proprietary information, can get the device working very well on the latest version of android, yet htc is unable to devote enough resource towards it to push out a proper upgrade?

If this was just a stop-gap until a larger one could be pushed out it would be one thing, but, in my opinion, the comments so far do not suggest that's the case. It sounds like he's leaving it open for interpretation in the hope that people will look upon it favorably and spread rumors that are inaccurate.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
I completely understand. I'm probably being too optimistic here with my hopes for HTC. They, and most manufacturers, have bad track records when it comes to these kinds of updates, though HTC has improved recently. Improvement unfortunately means already 1 year old software released as a new update, but it is progress towards the ultimate goal of quick Android updates. There is most likely a lot of PR going on here, but he did confirm they are working with the carriers, one of which, I'm again assuming, is Sprint, as they're working with AT&T for updates on similarly older phones, such as the One X and One X+. Yes, they are very different phones, but the One X+ was a mid-cycle phone and has a considerably smaller user base, and they are still releasing 4.2.2, so that gives me some hope for the EVO.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Active_Matrix:
xHausx I tweeted to HTC as well and you are correct, that is the normal PR spin, I got the SAME response. WindyCityRockr, do not forget all of our talented DEVs that will bring us 4.2.2 & 4.3 to our phones. They are keeping it alive!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
I am by no means, at all, trying to diminish the work that the Devs have done. They are some of the most important people for maintaining a device and keeping it up to date. I'm just trying to be optimistic about HTC's prospects for the phone. There isn't very much evidence at this point, but they haven't outright denied it, which makes it more of a possibility than most people around here have made it seem.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AndrasLOHF:
I was actually kinda expecting this from them. I got shat on with the Hero and was really not expecting much in the way of constant support from HTC. Especially when all you hear in the news stories is how badly they are doing as a company. I guess it's a good thing I've grown tired of Sense anyways.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
Update from President of HTC USA in the OP. Again, nothing confirmed, but he did corroborate the developer's original tweet in that they are working on finalizing a plan for the update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Would require no plan if they were to drop support entirely. Optimistic since the one x shares the same hardware.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
IMHO, they are working on it. things could change, but the president of the company doesn't tweet that unless it is getting worked on.

who knows whose hands the update is in right now (htc or sprints) but it is likely that this device moves up in priority now that the One has 4.3.

I can't think of many devices more popular on sprint that are more popular than this other than iphone (os updates go much quicker), HTC one (already up to date), the GS3/4 (not sure where they are)>

Fingers crossed for maybe middle november.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Would be a win to beat out the gs3
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Sprint gs3 got it today. A few weeks behind isn't bad
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
And the Note 2 too. First time I ever see Sprint drop two updates together.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
Does anyone recall off top of head how other phones have taken to 4.3 and sense 5.0? Specifically speed and battery life.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
I have recently read the S3 had some issues and I believe the One originally had issues but I don't remember what
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
I'm sure the skin runs lighter than Sense 4+ and the memory management is better. we'll see once we get it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] orangekid:
Thread cleaned.

I hereby declare this a troll free zone.

Thanks :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Thanks, [MENTION=1698146]orangekid[/MENTION].

Now, back on track...has anyone heard anything new on Twitter or elsewhere about issues with the new Sense 5/Android 4.3 on different devices? I tried searching, but I haven't seen anything in the "general public." I'm also not on Twitter...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Rapscallion16:
It looks like the update is still on track for the end of the year, but a delay is not out of the question. It is in internal lab testing right now though.

https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/405422654338777088
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
So that means the software is complete, Sprint and HTC just has to test it out?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Your response is greatly appreciated.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
Did it say it was in lab testing? And how long does that take haha.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Beats me what they test for. But being that the bugs in Sense 5 for the One was minimal for the most part, it tells me that they probably test everything under the sun. Definitely seems like better testers than Samsung. Some GS3 owners had a lot of issues after the first batch of OTAs. And don't even talk about the Nexus 7...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] comstar:
Are there white coats and mice involved?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
Mo versi (north american product manager) and Jason McKenzie are the two guys who I see with software update info.

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On twitter that is
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Yup and currently they contradict each other...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
I thought that it was just me...hmm...

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Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Well it seems Jason is pushing for Dec but Mo as I guess is the one working in the lab with it is being more realistic and saying Jan. On Jason's last tweet he stated it might get delayed but still eyeing Dec.. So not really contradicting buy just have different timeframe goals. Fingers crossed for Dec for u guys n the sis :thumbup:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
Yeah, I've jumped to the N5 since this thread started, but the speed that everyone (well flagships in the us) has rolled out 4.3/4.4 has blown my mind. Kudos to the team if they can deliver in Jan (or sooner).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
The update has been scheduled to enter the lab in mid January of 2014 and will include 4.3 OS and Sense 5!!! This is in refference to an email ive just recieved from Jason Mackenzie and the HTC dev team!!

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And yes,Mohammed ("Mo") is the one working on it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
So enter the lab mid January? So barring any setbacks late January release?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
Looks that way.

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Ive posted the email on my twitter... [MENTION=3853737]crib[/MENTION]swatcher !!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Dag....they've taken so long with this that I'm not sure how many devs remain to work on Sense 5. Some don't even have the device anymore. But I'm happy that we at least have some form of a scheduled time span.

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Tablet: ASUS Nexus 7.2

Rooted, Custom Rom & Kernel
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] polar2792:
When is everyones contract up?

Mine is Jan 11 so for me it's like who cares at this point. Although I'm sure there is some that is longer than that that prolly do care.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
March for Me. Still tho, kinda excited to see this phone get 4.3 and Sense 5.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Dec for contract to be up for that line but upgrade eligible Oct. Hopefully Jan comes and they don't start singing a different tune. HTC can't ever deliver in a timely manner..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] 63sammo1:
June for me. At least there is still HOPE.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
May. Upgrade eligible jan
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Err Mo said it was already "in the lab"..... As of this month...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Depends... This is a different update than normal ones here esp if its gonna be user initiated via a download on your computer to run it....

Normal ones take roughly 5weeks to get to users, for full OS version upgrades from the time sprint gets it from HTC initially to test on their end... This ain't your normal upgrade though and I'd imagine its already been in sprints hands going back and forth with HTC already based on Mo and Jason's comments thus far...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
Mo must of been wrong,scheduled for mid January!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Right now it just sounds like they are throwing anything out just to shut us up. I already called them out last night on the timeframe mismatch and lies between him and Jason. Neither have responded yet either smh..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
I believe you might be right, can we say "pacification!"!!! In case they deny, look me up on twitter (@cribswatcher),i posted the email on my twitter!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Highly doubt that... That or the definition of lab is different between when he said it and whoever sent you the email you got from HTC...

As Jason has been saying by yr end to be ready, and Mo was saying January... No way it gets to sprint for first time in mid january and is released by end of month... If its getting released then, then its not the first time its been sent to sprint for testing...promise you that much.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
All i can do is tell you exactly what Mo said in the email ,"we are working with sprint to get it into the lab by mid January,it will be 4.3 OS and Sense 5."!!

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Shoot me ur email n ill forward it to you.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Buffpandabear:
Hoping for a December release!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Before xmas would be amazing
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
I wish but it doesn't look good
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] markb629:
At first hearing of the update I got excited and now Decembers here and it's "delayed", of course it is. Now it just seems like they're buying time. CES is coming up the beginning of the new year and I'm sure HTC will have their new flagship there to display. I'm sure they're counting on most evo owners (not all but most)to be ready for upgrades since the phone will be almost 2yrs old after the new year, I know I got mine on preorder at the initial release so my 20 or 22 months is up at the beginning of the year.

If this update ever does come it probably won't matter to most (again not all but most). I do prefer HTC over everything else but man they've always sucked with updates, not only keeping us informed but timing, they always fall behind in that regard.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] iandmacdonald:
Considering the fact that there are many users still rockin' the OG Evo, I would almost certainly bet you that if there is nothing spectacular released at CES & MWC, many Evo LTE users will be content with the update enough to hold onto their Evo LTE for another year. I certainly will if that is the case.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25200340

Lol, wut? I don't know what to believe anymore. Ironically, this ties in with [MENTION=5078941]markb629[/MENTION]'s post above me. Let's see if your theory will stand.

By the way, I'm not sure what to take if this article. The courts are getting involved in phone releases now? Lol.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Might as well wait if it's 2 months away
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] markb629:
Yea that article doesn't really imply the judge is setting the release date. It was Nokia stating HTCs phone coming up in 2014 also violates patents that the HTC one series of phones is violating. Then HTCs lawyer didn't deny a new phone coming in early 2014, which to me is obvious anyway since they usually release in late Q1 anyway. There's also stories on all the tech sites about HTCs newest model code named M8 (which if we all remember the One was the M7) is probably due for release late Q1. The "leaked" specs and images stories are all over the place now. We'll just have to see which comes first the update or the new phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
If i had the update, I would be less likely to leave the htc family for something like a G2 or Nexus 5. It could hold me over 2-3 months for the next 2014 flagship.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimgustafson74:
Yeah the phone is actually a really great phone, i think the update alone would hold me over and give me some xtra "save up" time for the rumored M8. I did however shoot htc an idea for the next evo model...the HTC Evo QUANTOM©...OCTA Core© 3.0ghz!!! lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Well I for one have had enough from HTC and gave up my upgrade just to get rid of that phone. I can't support a company with such horrible lack of support for us. Got a G2 for a penny on Amazon for my sis and come Oct I'll use her upgrade for the Note 4. No more HTC's from here on out on any of my lines. That's two burns and not waiting for a third. Now with the M8 making appearances I feel bad for One users. They will get tossed on the back burner and more than likely 4.4 will be their final update like usual.. HTC has great build but that's not enough to keep me, I work hard for my money to just toss away to a company who won't keep us up to date..

Also the M8 won't have the 805 processor it will have the 800 so I guess the rumored 4mp camera is also true.. Idk what's wrong with HTC but they haven't been the same since OG EVO.. Watch Samsung n LG have the s805 come 2014.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] m.ark:
My first smartphone was the OG Evo. Then I got the Evo 4g LTE, because I loved the OG so much. After this fiasco, I'm determined to never buy another HTC product again. They make amazing products, but there are updates to the OS that can't be done through the app store (admittedly fewer and fewer as years go by). There's no reason that I should have to wait for upgrades. Yes, it gets me to buy a new phone as soon as my contract is up, but I'd do that anyway.

When my upgrade is up in April, I'm going to be buying a Nexus 5 or a Samsung flagship. I love Sense and HTC, and especially the kickstands, but it's ridiculous that I'm on an OS version that was released a year and a half ago. By the time this update comes out, we would have been on the same version for almost 2 years. Even then, it was lucky we got the 4.1.1 update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
This update will hold me until HTC comes out with a device running the 805 ;).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Guess that will be 2015 while the competitors are running with the 900 lol smh

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Just as lucky as we were to see ICS on our 3D's. Even that device was capable of running jellybean, yet all we got was a rushed 4.0.3 while the S2 got 4.1.2 :eek:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] m.ark:
Wait wait... we're actually BEHIND the S2? It was released on the 16th of September... 2011! How can that get an update to 4.1.2, but we can't get anything? Yep... I'm leaving HTC.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Not sure where this is coming from. The One got 4.3 pretty fast, and it will get 4.4 in like 60 days. It started at 4.1.2, so they are actually way ahead of everyone not named Nexus 4 or GPE. They did screw up with the evo, but you could say the phone was just underpowered in ram compared to the gs3.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
The One is the current flagship so of course it got 4.3 (Some of them). Let's see how well it does on updates after receiving the so called 4.4 that's supposed to come. Around that time it'll just be on the back burner while they focus on their M8 stuck on 4.4 or maybe even 4.3 till EOL. As you see they like to give false goals and then just push dates back from there on out.. Also the EVO 3D has the same ram amount as the LTE and that's supposedly getting 4.3 so why can't the 3D run on JB while the S2 which also shares 1gb ram can?

While HTC is rolling out 4.3 on just the One, Samsung is rolling it out across all their Galaxy devices. Can't talk for LG because they suck too but I hope they keep up with this G2 or I won't deal with them again and just stick to Nexus and Samsungs in the future.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Ditto.... Dunno what all the fuss about the updates are here.... They have supported updates on this device well compared to others.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Agreed. The OG Evo didn't get as much support as this one. Then again...the updates from Google sure have sped up compared to 2yrs ago. Google seems to be pushing the new Android versions much more quickly. For example, 4.1, 4.2, & 4.3....jnstead of building a big update, they release smaller updates, along with a new phone. Quite effective marketing, actually.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] js417:
and... we're only on the 5th of December.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
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How can you say the OG didn't get as much support as the EVO LTE, are you mad? The EVO 4G had the most support of any HTC phone ever! Started off on 2.1 Eclair, jumped to 2.2 Froyo, and followed with 2.3 Gingerbread. Received a total of 11 OTA's while the 3D only received six with only one being a major update (ICS) and the LTE with a total of 4 with once again only one being a major update (Jellybean). OG EVO came out in June 2010 if my memory serves me right and its last ota was in early 2013. I wouldn't say three years of support and bug fixes isn't as much support as the LTE, it's a whole lot more actually.