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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
I simply pushed down gently on the end of the card with a pen knife and slid it right out. If they had to remove the springs they must really have been serious about taking out weight and size...

Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note III.

Prevous Owner/Hacker of... numerous other devices!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I too have been told on more than one occasion that transferring the upgrade on my unlimited line would result in switching to a tiered data plan.

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] 92slammer:
shouldnt be a problem...ive done it plenty of times. I dont think 3rd party stores can transfer upgrades.(i could be wrong though) Ive always done it online @ verizonwireless.com that way i dont have to deal with the sales reps that dont know anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
Huh, so you're telling me that Verizon reps are wrong??! Preposterous!! ;)

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bossei:
They are running a promo; it's not unlimited data but not bad. You can get the 6GB of data for the same price you are paying for 2GB. I just got this deal. It was emailed to me; call them and ask. It's called Verizon Max or something like that. Personally this is all I need as I never really even hit 2GB on my unlimited plan.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I've heard of this and was seriously considering it until the Heavens granted us "unlimited glitch weekend" :cool: :D

I am not a heavy data user/abuser either... Even with unlimited if I top 4GB that's a high month of usage. But, with that being said, it's nice not having to pay attention to data usage whatsoever. Like I said, I don't abuse it, but I love my Pandora and Netflix, nice not be able to use them without a second guess...

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mrwebb:
Quick question,

What are the consequences of getting the Note 3 on the Verizon Edge program & cancelling service afterwards? Will the total phone be due in full or will you continue to pay monthly in small payments? I saw in fine print it says if the phone isn't activated in 45 days then full payment wouldbe due. I'm maxed out in adding a line so this my only option.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I'm not completely familiar with the Edge program, but I'd recommend going to a corporate store and inquiring about it. AND ask for everything in writing, take it home and exam the fine print. Then from there weigh your options ...

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
I'm torn on the edge program. It's definitely good for upgrading often, but it's almost like you'll always be paying monthly payments for a phone. But will constantly be able to have the latest and greatest...

I really really want the Note 3. Like you Yank, I certainly don't abuse unlimited data but it's very convenient never having to worry. I do average around 4gb and have hit as high as 8gb. But that's on heavy months. I could do a better job (especially if ia HAD to) at watching my data and staying prudent to wifi as much as possible. Either way I'd be upping my data plan for the wife and I.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Diceroll:
3rd party stores can alternate upgrade. At least mine can. But they are really messing with our ability to maintain the unlimited data. Just about any changes can cause the system to switch your data plan.

Hit thanks if I helped you out.

Sent from my S4 running Hyperdrive through Safestrap

Previous Devices: Fascinate, Droid Charge, Note 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
So, I have asked this before on a different site. I have two lines with unlimited data on both. My second line has an upgrade. Would it be better to get the third line now with an old Razor flip phone then transfer the upgrade to get the n3. Or buy the third line with the n3, making sure it gets the 2GB individual plan. Then when the phone comes, just go online to activate the Razor on the third line? I don't care about wasting that upgrade since it will get rid of my unlimited data. Also still raising my funds to get the n3. So which is the better route and safer route?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Darn thing still shows as not shipping until 10/10. I called Verizon and they just gave me the same ship by date as well. £€¢>¥¥¤*~>¢/@?/*//$??$//=
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Diceroll:
Activate the Note on the 3rd line. Then replace with a Razer. Giving you a Note 3 to use on the line wiyh unlimited data. This is better because you won't lose the unlimited data for sure. Also, if you activated the Razer first, you would have to pay a $30 upgrade fee on top of the $35 activation fee.

Hit thanks if I helped you out.

Sent from my S4 running Hyperdrive through Safestrap

Previous Devices: Fascinate, Droid Charge, Note 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Just ordered mine, as i am already on the share everything plan. Used my debit card to purchase and got the same old will ship by 10/10.

Considered switching to at&t but i like my service, granted where I live (at the bottom of a hill in a dead spot for ALL phone Carriers), however i get service upstairs so i use my tablet to text downstairs, but whenever i go to work i get service and pretty much everywhere else in Atlanta. Even though at&t has its roots here, Verizon is still my pick.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I'm in the same boat ... I live about 30-40 minutes south of Atlanta and Verizon is really the only option, sadly. My neighbors have AT&T and they have too sit out on their front porch to talk on their cell phones :rolleyes: I so wish I can wait for T-Mobile's coverage to grow, but that ain't gonna happen LOL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] polo2883:
Where I live you can't get T-Mobile, or Sprint at my house. AT&T is marginal and the only service that has solid signals is Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
Well, if Verizon decides to omit (key) features on the Note 3 (like they did on the Note 2) I may seriously look into T-Mobile and their Wifi calling capabilities I've seen mentioned. This way I can use my phone while at home ...

I'm sick of Verizon crippling features the manufacturer puts on the device!

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] polo2883:
With rooting and all the ROMS that will be out. As long as Verizon does not do anything to the hardware the rooting and ROMs can take care of the rest.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I understand that... But locked bootloader & knox may make things difficult at first. And bootloader may not be cracked, as is the case with the S4.

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Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 while I impatiently wait for my Note 3 X-(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] polo2883:
The S4 has not been cracked yet. I am sure it will be eventually.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] zepfloyd:
Considering mine is Loki'd with CM10.2 running just fine whether it ever really is or isn't no longer matters.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
Verizon corp reps state the Note 3 has the same "focus" as the S4 in regards to a desire to get enterprise accounts. This would mean the Note 3 probably will be just as locked down as the S4 in regards to the loader.

As far a release date, VZW stated it would be 10/10, but did not stop folks with second/third hand information and creating threads with words like "will" and "is" in the titles (suggesting as fact), or making bold claims the device will have an unlocked loader, out of box. Verizon has so far never released early, unless they announce themselves through their marketing of a date change and publish this info. The only "early" is some-times a one or two day difference between their delivery channels. Not eleven days or even a week, as some recent threads asserted.

At least one thread provided a CSR rep implying, but Verizon CSR staff are nowhere near Verizon's corporate marketing team and not part of that bubble.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
Couldn't agree more, Rushless.

Unfortunately there will always be a few glory-seeking nut jobs that make bold proclamations in order to stir up a bit of drama and spice up their day.

Good to see some common sense.

Sent from my Crapple iPhone 5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] asianflavor:
Thanks! I will do that. Forgot about the added fees.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] leyvatron:
This.

People ignore the fact that Loki does the same thing....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Just got back from Verizon store, not corporate. Apparently nowadays you can still swap your upgrade from 1 line to another, however the upgrade is tied to the phone number of the line is on originally. At least that's how it's explained to me.

I asked in as many ways as I could- move the upgrade to 2nd/3rd line, buy phone, activate phone on 2nd/3rd line, then just swap my main line sim card to activate on my line. They're saying as soon you upgrade, even on the alternate line, it forces you to chose a new data plan through the "drop down menu" as soon as you choose to upgrade.

I don't really understand it. And I believe the guy because I'm trying to buy a phone so it's not like he's lying in order to benefit him in any way. Apparently the system has changed for the way their process and this is another way VzW does what they can to get us off unlimited.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
I've been explained the same thing countless times. Apparently the only way to upgrade/switch/keep unlimited is if the upgrade eligibility is on a different line than your unlimited phone, and you transfer it to your unlimited line.

Sent from my Crapple iPhone 5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
It really sucks. Especially considering 8 months ago, this was the go-to method to upgrading and keeping unlimited data.

I've come to the conclusion no matter what I'll be doing 1 of 2 things, if not both when I upgrade next:

1) Paying more per month for data- currently $23 with discount

2) End up on a tiered data plan

SO, after checking most options available: edge, family share, using upgrade and changing plans against my will; looks pretty average of $30 a month.

Adding a $10 line is the only one I didn't discuss today. But can someone explain me the specifics? This seems like the way to go considering the above. Only incur $10 a month AND keep unlimited. But there must be draw backs.

Are there 2 activation fees, line and phone? Do you have to pay 1 full month for data before switching to a basic phone? Then I would need to buy a basic phone to activate on that line? VzW chat rep wasn't very helpful and couldn't explain all this to me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] seegs11:
Can the upgrade from a different line be from one that does not have data on it?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Diceroll:
There are not 2 activation fees. 1 activation fee if a new line. 1 upgrade fee if you upgrade. You would not have to pay for a month of data. All the 2 year contract says is you will stay with Verizon. You can switch the device anytime.

Hit thanks if I helped you out.

Sent from my S4 running Hyperdrive through Safestrap

Previous Devices: Fascinate, Droid Charge, Note 2
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
Yes. It can be a dumb phone.

And as for opening a new line, activating that line's Note 3 on your unlimited line, and then dumbing down the new line to $10 a month, it DOES work. I have two Crapple 5's that way. But paying an extra $20 per month for useless dumb phones I don't use.

If you go that route, you can buy old broken dumb phones on eBay and use their ESN's to activate them online.

Sent from my Crapple iPhone 5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Very good, sir. I'm either upgrading and paying $30 MORE a month for LESS data. Or $10 extra and keeping unlimited. Seems like a no-brainer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] brandonb81:
I have a Galaxy Nexus and am so excited about getting the Note 3.... I was hoping to pick it up the day it releases but can't find a definitive answer on when it'll be in stores. I'm assuming the 12th.

It's going to be an awesome phone. I can't wait!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ronaldheld:
I thought that it was to be in the stores on the 10th. Have you called your store to ask for the date?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GrainOsand:
Upgrade fee $30, extra line $10×24=$240 and $299 for phone. Thats a grand total of $569 plus buying a dumb phone, lets say $15 thats $584. So all in all you are saving roughly $115.

I know I can use an extra $115. Definitely worth the headache. Even if I spent it on accessories. It makes sense.:D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LuczOr:
Or you can use a ghost phone ESN = 13800000400.

Which is FOR FREEBIES!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Does that really work?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] lostnuke:
Plus you're keeping unlimited data.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GrainOsand:
Yes, but I was comparing it to buying the phone off contract. In both instances you keep unlimited data.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
Preordered mine. Anxiously waiting. Hoping the speaker quality is better than the Note 2. Otherwise, really loved the Note 2. Wish they would bill me already so I know it's on the way! :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
All I need is root for viper mod for sound quality and adaway. I don't really car about warranties so bring on root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
I would hope the bootloader can get unlocked, but root is all I need as well. Which shouldn't be hard
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] njfoses:
Every review i have read states the speaker is not good at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
Root is all I need too.

Does viper mod actually boost volume or just improve quality a bit? I tried one of the mods (can't remember what it was called), but it didn't increase volume at all. On my Note 2, I can't listen to an audio book with the phone really close to me. I have to literally put it up at my ear to hear it well through the loudspeaker.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
Yes it boosts volume too. It is an awesome sound app. I believe it is max gain control. But it makes everything Bluetooth and headsets sound great. Its in the app store now too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
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I am talking about out of the speaker, though, rather than bluetooth or other headset.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
Yes it boost the speaker too and clears it up quite a bit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
Oh good. I will have to try it. Hope it's not the same one I already tried before that didn't do spit (for me). :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
I use the fx one and if it didn't work it was because you didnt know how to use it. There are a lot of settings and if you don't know what to do then I can see it not working.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
Maybe it's not anything I tried then...because none of them had a lot of settings. Since we're here waiting anyway :D, which settings should I use specifically? Maybe save a little time. If you want, feel free to PM me with the info or screen shot, etc. Thanks if you have a chance.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
Honestly every phone is different but this is my setup for my s4 which is totally different the m what I did with my s3.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mystik1:
Thank you. I am going to check it out on my Note 2 in the meantime shortly.

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Thanks again for the mention. It works! I am much happier now. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] shawnten:
No problem that app and a little tweaking can make a set of klipse in ear head phones sound like a symphony
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Bose in-ear headphones are expensive but sooooo sweet with my GS3... Can't wait until the pre-ordered Note 3 gets here....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Preorder status page on Verizon Web site still says ship by date of 10/10...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] leyvatron:
Sucks. That just means the Note 3 will be released a few days later in-store.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] suzook:
HUH??? Why? It WILL be available instore on the 10th!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] b00mb00mchuck:
The ship date is always same as in store date on verizon... been like that for years now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Impuls3101:
the white one appears to be backordered now and also the black one's little bubble has changed to backordered but you can still preorder it. You have to click on the device on vzw to view the changes. Not sure exactly what the deal is or if it means that there will be shortages if you try to preorder online now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
I saw that as well. Placed my order on my 3rd line without being forced to change data plans like I was was told by multiple VzW reps. Here's hoping when I activate it on my main line it doesn't force me then.

Anyway I ordered in white and it did day backorder. .However its still showing a ship date of 10/10 and let me complete the order without any other mention of it being backordered. We shall see.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
If anyone else gets that just wait til the tenth and go into the store. Its not worth waiting 2 weeks for another shipment.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Blitzed26:
Yes, white says "Back Ordered" but appears to still allow you to pre-order. Black says "temporarily out of stock" and you can't even pre-order.

Glad I got one pre-ordered, just hope it shows up a little early!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
I pre-ordered a black one three weeks ago and the website still says ship by 10/10, the freaking thing never changed since day 1. No email updates, nothing.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Han Solo 1:
Why would they update you? To say "It's still shipping on the 10th"?

It's not 10/10 yet.

Sent from my Crapple iPhone 5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
Han Solo 1, I am just venting. Just wondering why the guys at a couple different stores tell me they will have it on 10/10 - what's the use of pre-ordering it if it'll be in the stores the same time. I thought the chance of pre-ordering it meant I could get it before it is available in the stores...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SuperTongue:
Preordering is mainly to ensure you get a unit upon release - not to get it early or even on the actual release date in the case of some online retailers. Think of it like Amazon - you preorder an item and you get it on release day. Sure, there might be the occasional hiccup where that one guy gets his new Xbox a day before everyone else, but in reality it's all aimed around getting you a product on or shortly after the release date with the guarantee that you will actually get one if it sells out.

Verizon, as of now, is holding up on their end of the deal. The ship by date is 10/10, so unless they don't ship your order by then, they're doing absolutely nothing wrong. They never once stated that preordering the phone would get it any earlier than a physical outlet. Anywhere that says that you should get it before the in-store release is just throwing out pixie dust and unicorns.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] keynith:
Pre ordering is really just to make sure you get one at all, provided they don't oversell. I think some people believe it means they'll get it early. Its really just a gimmick. Like when you pre order a video game, your telling the company I'm going to give you my money for sure and it locks in a copy at the store, so they throw in some dlc or whatever to entice you too preorder. It does make sense to ship it early as an enticement to preorder, but technically they don't have to.

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You beat me by 43 seconds haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] SuperTongue:
Great minds think alike! ;) Haha
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Impuls3101:
I think all the confusion is how verizon words it on the order page "Will Ship By 10/10" sounds like you will get it early instead of "Will Ship on 10/10". Only thing I am hoping for is to get it before the weekend. I don't want to wait till monday for it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ~nikkilondon:
I too am waiting for my Verizon Note 3. Will post when received :o
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
Hopefully folks will now know to disregard posts or threads stating dates earlier than what Verizon publicly announce. Unless part of VZW sales & marketing leadership, people will have no clue until they either see billing activity, or an actual device in hand (or a poster showing one).

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This date is more to do with their back-order system. As long as they ship devices by the 10/10 date, they are not buried with a bunch of back-order status devices. Their leadership is partly measured by service-levels for order fulfillment in their supply chain. This is part of the reason for being so specfic with dates and not announcing until they are sure. At&t and the others tend to be more loose with their systems and measurements for early push out of product.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] marthinollys:
Last year I purchased my Verizon Note 2 in store on the first day it was available (in late November). I believe pre-orders began shipping 24/48 hours earlier.

At least I recall members on a forum receiving their devices some hours before I got mine.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] EvoXR1:
If it makes anybody feel better, my sister pre ordered the s4 and she received it a day before the release day. I know ill be going to the store on the 10th
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Blitzed26:
Just got off the phone with a CSR and she checked with her supervisor on ship date. She told me that my pre-order is scheduled to ship on 10/10 and no earlier. She said that it will go live in stores on 10/10 as well and that the advantage of pre-order isn't to get it first, but to ensure you get one.

If this is true I am disappointed as I am out of town all weekend and will have to wait until Tuesday.

I hope she is wrong!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] tuxdreamerx:
That will be a little disappointing... But entirely possible... I also spoke with a CSR this morning and was told 10/10 for ship date. Not looking good.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] gerg004:
Seems like most of us (from what I've noticed) pre ordered and purchased online was to keep unlimited. Whether it was the unlimited upgrade glitch or transferring upgrades to a 3rd dumb phone line.

As crappy as it is to have to wait a couple more days, it will be entirely worth it to avoid screwing with unlimited data.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] NoFanboy:
Frankly, I can't believe the amount of complaining on this thread. Vzw said it'll be available 10/10.. Just wait until then. We're lucky it's only a week or so after other carriers