yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Raun14:
Do I have to be rooted to install the RUU? And what do I have to say in the email?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] debarron:
Hmm, I emailed Mo on the 10th and have yet to hear back. I sent it in the evening, so maybe I should send it during business hours so it has a better chance of being seen.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] un1ocked:
any improvement on camera and battery life?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bugguy:
No I don't believe you need to be rooted the email just talked about how long it would take, told you it would wipe everything and told you how to run the RUU
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
Go away
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
I moved on. Your all liars. Goodbye. Devs here > sprint + htc
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sean8172:
I think this might help explain it. I'm more in the "seeing is believing" group, but this makes me at least a little bit hopeful.

http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-evo...e-5-end-year?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
You guys bash too much on HTC not pulling updates. They already updated their whole entire 2012 flagships with 4.2.2 and Sense 5 (except for the One S, DROID DNA is getting it this month) and they are in the progress of updating their HTC One with 4.3 already. I'm excited we as jewel users would be the first 2012 flagship to get 4.3. And I would trust Jason Mackenzie, as he's been really good at tweeting real updates and he's a reliable source.

And you say Samsung has the best updates. The Note 2, Galaxy S3, and all their 2012 flagships haven't even shipped out 4.2 yet. Heck, the GS4 isn't even going to ship out 4.3 until next year.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Maybe that's because HTC has a track record of sh*tting on their customers with software support. I'm still a bit scorned how they did us with the 3D. They acted like the phone didn't exist only like 6 months through. And why bring Samsung into this? The GS4 released with 4.2 out the box while the HTC One came with 4.1.2! Next year? The GS4's update is coming this month with the S3 and Note 2 followed Nov-Dec. Did you not see the support the GS2 received? All the way from GB to JB, now thats real support right there. All samsung 2012 line up is getting 4.3. The EVO is the only HTC 2012 that's getting 4.3 so far and I believe that's part due to our reaction and flooding HTC about it. Although I only had the LTE for a month I'm glad it's getting 4.3 as I handed it down to my sister. Let's just all be happy about that..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kaos420:
listen here noob you go away. ive been with htc since the apache. over 10 different devices. they lie its a fact!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Erickson00:
Two questions...

1. Does the Evo 4g LTE have enough RAM to properly run on 4.3 and Sense 5? As it stands now, my phone uses over 700MB without apps running,with only a Gb total. Worried the update will max out the memory usage.

2. Does that MMS issue only pop up on certain phones? Ive never noticed a problem on mine.

I was about to root. Guess I will wait now.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MFOsaka:
Somewhat of a concern here too at one time but the One X has it and it runs on the same specs of our phone. Not to mention, thanks to the devs we have Sense 5 (4.1.2) on our phones now, and as I type this from that rom, it works quite well.

Go ahead and root. One of the first things that happens with any stock rom OTA is a rooted version of it for us. So you could just as easily download it when it comes out and install it on your phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Sense 5 is actually a little slimmer than our current version of Sense, so RAM shouldn't be an issue.

And definitely, S-OFF now (unless you already took this OTA). With every OTA, the potential exists for a security hole to be patched, making S-OFF less possible.

PSA: Everyone who can should S-OFF. It just makes everything easier.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
Hey Captain_Throwback,

If this update contains a new baseband for the radios, will you provide the S-OFF users with the PJ75IMG.zip file?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Have you checked the firmware thread?

;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
Just checked it out! Thanks man! you rock.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Erickson00:
I took the OTA update, thinking it was better to root after i had the latest update (figuring i would not change anything or update ever again after that). So now i need to wait until someone releases a way to root on 3.17.651.4? I just want a basic, stock root; not a custom ROM. I really appreciate forums like this that have so many helpful moderators and subscribers!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
We typically recommend S-OFF because it makes it easier to root and upgrade firmware, etc. People who are S-OFF just flash the latest stock rooted to update their software and then can update or downgrade their firmware as they see fit.

But if you just want root, you *should* still be able to do that. No guarantees, though.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Erickson00:
Cool! I will wait around for someone to post one of those "rooting for dummies" tutorials that gives a step by step set of instructions for gaining S-off and rooting for those of us who jumped the gun and downloaded the OTA. Thanks for the advice!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] JManekia:
You can try using Moonshine method to gain S-off. See the link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2321072
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Erickson00:
I'm just worried it won't work since that thread says it's for 3.16.651.3 and not 3.17.651.4. I'd poop myself if i bricked my phone.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
It's very unlikely that it'll brick your phone. If anything, it'll just tell you it isn't compatible or flat out not work.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Erickson00:
conviction

I think I am going to root first and then try for S-off...I don't want all my apps wiped. From what I have read, doing the HTVDev unlock will wipe everything before I can use Titanium to back it all up, which I can't use unless I root. So it seems better to root, use Titanium (which I paid for and used back when I had my original Evo, which now seems like it was MUCH easier to root) to back everything up, and THEN try to achieve S-off. I'm probably going at this the wrong way. I used to consider myself pretty good with this kind of thing, but I guess I'm getting old.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
Um, the only way to root is to first unlock with HTCDev, so I don't think you're going to have much success backing up without wiping first.

Your only option will be doing an adb backup, which doesn't require root, but I don't know how reliable that method is. A search around XDA should help you find more info on that method.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Valsorim:
Has anyone been able to compare yet to see if there were any changes between RUU and Captain's version?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tonyevo52:
I don't know if there's a difference or not, but I trust [MENTION=4554055]captains[/MENTION] work and its been running great for me... Granted my Evo is my secondary device now, but i still use it and battery life and speeds are great... Reading back a page, [MENTION=4711290]lreyes[/MENTION] said it's identical..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
It is the same version. That was stated a while ago.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Valsorim:
I've been running your version since last week and tried Sense 5.5 version, back on yours now. They have both been smooth, xposed framework has worked nicely w it. Thanks Captain, cheers
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
In order to install the RUU from HTC, you need to have your bootloader locked (fastboot oem lock), otherwise the update process will fail. I had to relock my bootloader, then unlock it again after the RUU was installed so I could flash the modified TWRP that Captain posted in his thread and flash SuperSU. I went down this route of contacting HTC directly since, for whatever reason I could never get rumrunner to work on my device to S-OFF, and have been eagerly wanting to try out 4.3/Sense 5.0 as well.

You can use Windows 8.1 w/USB 3.0 only (or USB 2.0/3.0) USB ports, but you need to be running an Intel chipset ad use Intel's USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller drivers for Windows 7 instead of the stock Microsoft USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - this is where the failure occurs when rebooting to fastboot and no longer having your EVO detected as connected via USB. There are many posts which describe this process of swapping out the drivers on your windows 8/8.1 system. I think I may have event posted some info on this here on XDA some time back.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bugguy:
Anybody know if my dock in my truck will work after the update also how about texting is it included?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I'm not sure I understand these questions. A dock is a physical mount - I'm not sure how that at all relates to a software update? And texting is a stock phone function, so I'm really unsure about what you mean by that question?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bugguy:
Is texting run through Google hangouts like in kitkat as far as the dock question is the program to make the car docking feature work included?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
There is a default text program that comes with 4.3, google chat (or whatever it was called) will be updated to hangouts if you let it update - you can choose to use either/or a 3rd party SMS program as you see fit.

There is still a dock/car mode for this update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] skaman77:
I haven't rooted any device since my previous HERO and NookColor and am using this as an opportunity to finally getting around to screwing with my EVO LTE. So, I was wondering if anyone could clear up the implications of the two posts above regarding install of the RUU directly from HTC. The first post seems to suggest you need to unlock the bootloader prior to install of the HTC process for you to get back to S-OFF in the immediate future. The second post suggests that the RUU will not install using the HTC provided .exe if you are already S-OFF.

So, if anyone could confirm that I follow:

1. If you're happy being stuck with S-ON for the near future and are going to live with what HTC has provided here, for better-or-worse, then you have no need to unlock the bootloader prior to running through the HTC install process. (but if you change your mind will have to wait for new bootloader unlocking method to be developed)...

or

2. However, if you want the option to switch to another ROM, root, or otherwise, then

a. unlock the bootloader/go S-OFF first,​

b. then click back to S-ON,​

c. install using HTC .exe file​

d. then go back S-OFF.​

or

3. Conversely, if you are happy using Captain's method and RUU files, then download and go down that route...

Does that follow?

Thanks in advance!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
I didn't say that the RUU would not install with S-OFF - I said that it fails to install if your bootloader is unlocked. I was never able to obtain S-OFF, otherwise I would have just used Captain Throwback's solution.

What others are saying is that if you are S-ON, you may want to try and achieve S-OFF before updating via the RUU because there is not a known exploit ATM for the latest HBOOT (right? that's where S-OFF/S-ON is?) to allow you to achieve S-OFF, and you will have to wait for the knowledgable folks around here figure it out.

I am a HTC Sense fanboy, so S-OFF has never been a big deal for me as I don't really care for the ASOP ROM's.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kbrn:
I just got a response email with the RUU test file, I don't use my Evo as a daily anymore. I keep it because it's my insurance in case my Note 2 gives up.

I'm S-off and still running the last version of mean bean.

I been reading a few posts and understood I have to go s-on before installing the RUU.

I'd like to know if this is so and how do I go back s-on? any pointers?

Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tonyevo52:
You don't have to go back to s-on, just take Captain's version.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Funny...... Ran the RUU just fine here and I was SOFF and unlocked.... Dunno what u did wrong but I had zero issues here.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
I'm guessing its because I was s-on
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ombobop:
it did take so long during the RUU process?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
You do NOT have to go back to S-on prior to running the RUU. You'll continue to be S-off once the RUU completes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kbrn:
Thank you sir!!:good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bugguy:
Finally got the update done it's working great:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jporter12:
I got no love from Mo after sending him an email. :(

I guess I'll just hang in there until the RUU is released.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jason021680:
They sent me a link to HTC sharefile. But I can't log in. Has anyone else had this problem? I tried my email with every password I ever used, and there's nothing there for me to make a new account.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] onefasttreopro:
I just got it myself and when I clicked that link I basically entered a password 2 times...its as if they added you request email into the system and then you finish registering...hope that makes sense.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Jason021680:
Ok thanks, I actually got my girl to send the email for me so that explains why my email address isn't working. Its under her email address.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Raun14:
What is their email address? I think I have the wrong one
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jimmyg41:
What a bummer, I waited and waited for this update. Decided not to root or try any ROMS, stay stock and believe that HTC would deliver in December then January then finally mid February. Oh well, some guy is buying my Evo tomorrow. I was hoping to install this for him but I couldn't get through with the e-mail. Oh so close. On to the Nexus 5 for me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
Everytime I get to the black HTC screen it says waiting for bootloader and nothing happens. What am I doing wrong
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
Is your bootloader already unlocked? If so, you will need to relock it. Otherwise, make sure all other programs on your PC are closed and sleep/hibernation is disabled. You may also need to disable your PC's antivirus. Also enable usb debugging on your phone.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] dhonan13:
Yeah I'm locked. So going to that black screen with the HTC is supposed to happen though right?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
Yes. The RUU process takes approximately 20 minutes. You should see progress on your PC.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Couple things thus far.... Wish app association was still an option in settings.... Not sure why they removed that item as im assuming a non technical person would not have means to undo the selection of 'always' when done....

Also anyone gotten start.HTC.com site to pair to the device?

I reported my radio issue to No and them... Radio is much stronger but seems to grab and hold to 4G too long when 4G will drop off and your blanketed with full 3G the handoff is not good not seamless as it should be.

Amazed at battery life here! Seems like 2-3x better than before.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
The 4G performance now is on par with my other non HTC phones. They all hold on to 4G for dear life even if there's a stronger 3G signal. Honestly I rather have that then no 4G while all my other phones were in 4G like in the past. If your 4G signal is not great try changing to cdma only. I do that sometimes on all my phones as the 4G is unusable and gets annoying.

Are any of you getting random force closes? I've gotten them with connection optimizer, browser and other apps when I'm not even using them and it seems to happen when I'm actively using a few apps at once. I think it's a memory management issue with ram.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tuchubby:
still haven't received my email yet... :confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Raun14:
What is HTC 's email to get the link?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
Are you using the Sense 5 toolbox w/xposed framework by any chance? I was, and was getting a lot of force closes - especially after I would let my phone idle/sleep for 10-15 minutes then pick it back up to use it. Once I disabled the sense 5 toolbox it's been much more stable.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Stock never rooted. My bugs so far are ghosts apps. Don't matter how I uninstall them they still appear. Xda was one but after a few installs and uninstalls now it's not doing it for that app. Still get it for others though. 3 broken live wallpapers, some notification tones are super low, the beats audio breaking when audio comes in that pauses playback and a few random etc etc has unexpectedly stopped which seem to be ram related. Oh and another one is when data drops and the little triangle appears if I click it from the drop down it unexpectedly stops and ask if I want to report to HTC. I actually get the HTC report message for most of these crashes.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ReaganDee:
Just got my link to download

I can confirm that emails are still going out to give people access to the RUU download. Emailed Mohammed_Versi@htc.com at 11:08 am and got a link to the RUU download at 11:50 am. Downloading now .... :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SimianJones:
Double confirm.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] CarmelSack:
I sent an email over the weekend. Heard nothing yet.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] O.LPZ81:
I emailed Mohammed @ HTC this morning and got a emailed link a couple of hours later. I will download and install later on when I get home from work. :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Look what lil ole me just got from the awesome Mo! Final release build 4.13.651.3! I feel so special :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] knotcw:
got the trial 2 days ago just got an email for the final software release says it supports windows 8
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Valsorim:
Got email w RUU download link in about an hour after sending in request. Good stuff
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xPhantom:
Just got the email with a link to the 4.13.651.3 final release version!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommy_riley:
yep, looks like everyone who got the download link originally got the updated final build notification.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SimianJones:
[MENTION=979266]knotcw[/MENTION]:

Check the release version of the one you got two days ago. I got a trial release a few hours ago (release 351182 - screenshot posted on the previous page) and I just received a new email as well. Newest version has an updated release number [release 353492].

I don't know if much is different, but the declared support for windows 8 is new, as far as the email content goes. I'd check with Captain Throwback to see if there is a more substantial change to the ROM than that.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
looks like the updates between my version (about a week old) are small

4.13.651.1>.3

anyone catch anything else
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tuchubby:
I also received a .3 version.

Some observations:

1. Previously installed Captain_Throwback's build - firmware, recovery, and rom

2. S-OFF - facepalm

3. Installed RUU from HTC

- *TAMPERED* no longer shows on bootloader (only ***UNLOCKED***)

- Bootloader is still S-OFF

- Boot to recovery gets you a reboot to the rom
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
It's not a global issue otherwise I'd flip to cdma.... Not my first rodeo bud. :)

. It's a flat out issue with the handoff from 4g to 3g. Still better than b4 tho
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] chefdementia:
I've had no luck getting a reply for the update file, :crying:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
also,

since this was sent out as final software, I will post the URL.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
I keep getting error code 170 usb connection error. I had no problems with the first RUU. I'm clueless here. I've even tried reinstalling the drivers with no luck.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] SupermanTW:
Do you have a MD5 for this file. Don't want someone to get a bad download and risk messing up their phone?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] a22matic:
Yep, same problem I've been having since Sat when trying to install the first RUU. I bought a new USB cord, tried 5 different laptops, and 4 different Windows programs. Tried Mo's final RUU from this afternoon to no avail.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ombobop:
currently downloading the final release from o's link on the email sent to me. i''ve noticed that somebody already post the download link her, is it ok? coz on the email written : CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE : The information in this e-mail is confidential and privileged; it is intended for use solely by the individual or entity named as the recipient hereof. Disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail by persons other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may violate applicable laws. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete the original message and notify us by return email or collect call immediately. Thank you. HTC Corporation.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rubber guard:
removed after second thought. I bet someone else should post it.

It was a public facing email though, but I'd rather not do something silly.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Los Altos:
So if keep keep root/S-off after updating using the official RUU,whats the advantage of running Captain's, or is there any reason to choose one or the other?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] comstar:
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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sgt. slaughter:
Yeah re read the email..... No links posted unless it's on HTC site directly.....

"CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE : The information in this e-mail is confidential and privileged; it is intended for use solely by the individual or entity named as the recipient hereof. Disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail by persons other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may violate applicable laws. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete the original message and notify us by return email or collect call immediately. Thank you. HTC Corporation"
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] xJuice:
The url is also visible in atheistevofreak's attachment...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
Deleted. Thanks.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
There isn't really an advantage either way.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] debarron:
I'm glad the app associations are gone, good riddance. Only some of the options actually worked. Map links would always just open in the browser, which is pretty much useless. YouTube links would work if you used chrome but would take you to the mobile page in the stock browser.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
Someone in the evo lte group I'm in on Facebook just said that Mo said on Twitter that if you're on the first RUU, there's no need to install the second.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] elob:
mo has posted a link on twitter to download the RUU in case anyone is interested.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] ombobop:
finally...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
https://twitter.com/moversi/status/435932404373401600
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jporter12:
Got the email, downloading and installing!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Anybody else having trouble getting this new build installed? I've tried both my USB cables and same error. Weird, the trial took on first try after I was sent the one step RUU.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
I was having this issue too. This is what worked for me: I rebooted my phone while it was connected to my PC. A window opened, showing some files and HTC sync manager. I double clicked HTC sync manager, downloaded and installed it. I opened it and it installed new drivers. I then ran the RUU and it competed successfully.

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Will give it a go now
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] :
Any luck?

EVOlved human
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] willverduzco:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...icial-android-4-3-and-sense-5-update-via-ruu/ :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Raun14:
Someone please help?!!! while downloading the img, my computer was stuck on sending and now theres no img on my device