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[G2 General] :
I seriously dont think this phone needs an update, dont want to loose stability\batterylife lol
[G2 General] shure2:
I work in a phone shop and have an lg g2 leaflet that says they are working on 4.4 kitkat, doesn't have a date though but hopefully shows a change on attitude
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Pics or it didn't happen. :p
[G2 General] shure2:
Just for you
[G2 General] bckrupps:
don't get any better than backing up a statement with that :)
[G2 General] shure2:
Its £399 sim free in the shop. That might not mean much to you guys in the USA but top end phones like the Sony Xperia Z1 are £550 so if the nexus 5 has a disappointing battery, camera and screen this may be the phone to go for
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Woot, thanks bro!
[G2 General] NaveenKumarXDA:
So finally, I will wait till nexus 5 arrives. As per posts there is nothing to believe on lg anymore. Writing on pamphlet & not deliver after sell g2 is cheep business model.

I don't believe lg will give on time.

Thanks everyone for posting views.
[G2 General] staticx57:
Well unfortunately for me, I have a bad experience with 4.2.2 and I much prefer 4.3. I know my galaxy nexus has old hardware, but there is no reason 4.3 should be faster. Obviously the faster S800 should make up for it. But the idea of going back to 4.2.2 doesn't sit right with me.
[G2 General] Fidelio_o:
first world problems lol
[G2 General] Intub8:
Yes my new years resolution. End hunger,world peace, and faster software updates for android phones.
[G2 General] Gasaraki-:
They should go straight to 4.4. Hope they are working on 4.4.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
Then don't get the g2. I'm sure devs are working on a cm 10.2 Rom so that we can get some 4.3 goodness. Either that or you are the impatient type that might be better off with a nexus 5 device.
[G2 General] staticx57:
Id love to get a nexus 5 believe me. However being stuck on verizon it's either this or the note 3. Both seem to have their pros and cons though. thats why im trolling both forums trying to make up my mind.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
What I don't get is that you are basing your horrible 4.2.2 experience on the Galaxy Nexus which has really old hardware and all of a sudden 4.3 on the Galaxy Nexus does wonders? If you base your decisions on what the initial software build on a phone (LOL) then your choice is simple...Galaxy Note 3. However I don't understand why you discredit 4.2.2 so much. It has been a very stable build for most people. You should be evaluating how 4.2.2 works on the LG G2 and not on a version of how 4.2.2 works with old devices or non-stock versions of 4.2.2. I mean have you even played with the LG G2 for Verizon in stores to truly experience what 4.2.2 is like on this phone?

Watch...come 2 weeks later after Google announces Android 4.4 you'll be wishing that the LG G2 wasn't working on 4.3 at this point. Here I am thinking that people nowadays choose a phone based on the specs and screen size instead of initial software build.
[G2 General] staticx57:
Huh, I thought this thread was titled updates not initial builds? And yes, 4.2.2 is a pretty bad android version. And yes, 4.3 is a lot better. I am sure the new hardware hides it well, but it doesn't change the fact. Look at the original nexus 7.

The way cdma works is that LTE updates are tied to the carrier, meaning newer versions of android dont always play nice with the old radios. 4.2.2 did not play nice with the verizon and sprint galaxy nexuses until specific code was released by sprint and verizon. Even now, data on 4.3 doesnt work like it did on official releases.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
Again you are you basing this on Nexus devices and not on the LG G2. All I am saying is that you go play with the LG G2 with 4.2.2 before making your decision and don't assume how it works on one device will apply to all devices. Forget that you ever read anything about how 4.2.2 operates on Nexus devices (especially Galaxy Nexus since it was released in 2011). Also the original Nexus 7 hardware was just bad!! Ugh Tegra 3 chip...what did you really expect.

This thread is titled updates and not initial builds but you have brought up the fact that dilemma and issue with the G2 is the initial build of 4.2.2 vs. 4.3. Therefore it makes the initial build in your case applicable in this situation. LG will support the LG G2 with Android 4.4 at the very minimum so in terms of updates you will get a future update if that is all you are asking.

Don't get me wrong. Would I rather have had the LG G2 have 4.3 stock??? Of course because who wouldn't wanted the latest and greatest version of Android. However if you ask me if having 4.2.2 is a deal breaker for me to not get the LG G2, then I would say "Hell NO!!!". I am confident in the development community here that will provide CM 10.2 (4.3) ROMs out for this phone soon for those that want 4.3 goodness like yourself.
[G2 General] Ray3rd:
Interesting. I had nothing but problems on my GNex running 4.3. Went back to 4.2.2 everytime. I tried 4 different Roms. Guess that every phone is different, even the same models.
[G2 General] charlie_c:
I went from a Galaxy Nexus running 4.3 on Verizon to a G2 running 4.2.2 on T-Mobile. On a good day, my GNex was never as fast and reliable as the G2. You won't notice going from 4.3 to 4.2.2, but you will notice tripling your battery life, an amazingly better screen, and hugely faster performance. The OS version updates will come, but I'm not missing the incremental 4.3 update at all.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
I don't understand how anyone could like the boring stock Android software. No way would I choose that over what the G2 offers now. Stock is just .. so.. boring. CM and alternatives are a different story but even they can get boring after a while.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
The only problem with UI skins is that it delays the release of the next version of Android software significantly. The reason why people buy Nexus devices is because as soon as Google announces that new version of the software it becomes available for download within the next day or week. Also Nexus devices allow for the easiest root and bootloader unlock options that can open it up to flash custom ROMS much faster.

When Google announced Android 4.4 later on this month with the source code release say start of November, I am guessing LG won't have a 4.4 update for the LG G2 until next Feb-Mar 2014 while the Nexus 5 folks will get it immediately at launch which is so annoying. That is the major perk as to why I would want a Nexus 5 with up to the date Android updates especially if Android 4.4 has some exciting features.

However I still have to see the hardware of the Nexus 5 before making a decision between the Nexus 5 or G2.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Yea I see what you're saying with the UI skins delaying updates, but still I dunno, I can't use just stock Android for too long.
[G2 General] staticx57:
While all of the extra features are nice that these phones offer now a days, the pure simplicity usually wins some of us over. No, vanilla android isn't perfect, it isn't bad.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Def. not bad. I've had pretty much all the newest Android phones over the past few months and once the iPhone 5s came out I switched to that briefly and it was actually a pleasant experience with iOS 7. I don't know if I was getting tired of Android or just not that satisfied with the devices offered. I really thought I was gonna stick with the 5s for a while until I bought the G2 yesterday. It's like a whole new Android experience. I can't really explain it. I had the S4, One, S4 Active, etc. but this phone feels different. I love the small bezels. It's one of the only things I really disliked about the One.
[G2 General] Ace42:
The LG G2's predecessor seems to have little xda support, so I'm wondering how the G2 will be in even a few months. The Nexus 5 should be fine considering how active the Galaxy Nexus is, but carrier phones that aren't HTC/Sammy don't seem as supported IMO.
[G2 General] staticx57:
Thats my biggest concern as I am on verizon. But I have been staring at the note 3 and everyone seems to think that the bootloader might pose a bigger problem than previous sammy phones.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I couldn't agree with you more. Stock Android is insanely boring and bland. I really don't understand why someone would buy a Nexus device other than price. Because you can get any phone you want and always flash an aosp rom. I would rather have the choice if I get the itch, but always like the choice to go back to a manufacturer UI too.
[G2 General] TechSilver13:
I had cm 4.3 on my S4. Boring is correct. You know what I lost going from 4.3 to 4.2? Bluetooth head unit in my car saying what album artist and song from Pandora and play music. Not a big loss IMO. LGs OS runs circles around pure android and touchwiz. Only HTC comes close IMO.
[G2 General] NaveenKumarXDA:
Feb 2014:what:

:eek: it's not coming before next one or may be two years[ if i see lg past update cycle] …

:mad: updates are not bad. Those who interested please install older stock.

None of the manufacturer today support latest update with a phone that have mmc & removal battery. This **cks.

That is the reason I hate ios..

Even Google edition s4 not available outside USA. I hate this system of updates.

Why windows system succeed on desktop is due to non involvement of manufacturer to update.

They give there software & drivers as an addition but we don't depend on them to update.

Why such model cannot happen with mobiles. Yaa because Google not interested.

This update system is so bad that I am even thinking going away from this mobile ecosystem until I see some better os. That can give me full independence from manufacture & still provide best of software experience.

This space of need is so blank in mobile ecosystem.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
You can't assume what happened with the LG Optimus G is going to be applicable to the LG G2. First of all the LG Optimus G was only sold on 2 carriers (AT&T and Sprint). We all know that AT&T is mostly iPhone users and then factor in that Samsung and HTC are the incumbents with high end Android smartphones and then finally LG Optimus G gets the slim pickings. Then on Sprint, the customer base isn't as high as AT&T but like AT&T, the Samsung and HTC incumbents had preference for high end Android smartphones than LG.

This time though the LG G2 is being sold on ALL carriers and it has huge rave reviews from tech blogs. Just already from following this XDA forum for the LG G2, that there are a ton more folks picking up the high end LG flagship phone this time around. I am confident this time around the LG G2 will have great XDA dev support for all carriers. Not only that but I am confident that LG will bring better and faster Android software support this time around with the LG G2 especially if it sees nice sales. LG is not going to risk losing its customers after 1 year especially if it starts getting some market share.

I myself have Sprint and I know the LG G2 will be very popular on Sprint because it will be the first triband LTE smartphone that has the leg up on the Note 3 which is single band LTE.

Verizon is just an arse on any phone it supports. This is not a LG problem but a Verizon problem. Verizon likes to lock their bootloaders on all of its flagship phones. There is not much you can do about it.

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*Yawn* you are basing this on past performance which is not a great indicator for LG going forward. Must I remind you that just 2 years ago, Samsung was the worst offender of providing Android updates and now they are the best. If you don't believe me, ask anyone who had an Android Samsung smartphone in 2010/2011 and see how their software support was. Samsung Droid Charge on Verizon....forget about it.

But in 2012, Samsung turned it around with the GS3 and started supporting the phone a lot better than previous generations and since then they have been top notch of all OEMS in providing Android software updates. I am confident that LG can improve in this area since the bar is set so low for LG that they can only improve from here. A good start would be to provide timely Android software updates with the LG G2 phone with Android 4.4 by Feb. Then when the LG G Pro 2 phablet comes out in April/May then can provide timely Android software updates and then people will easily buy LG devices again.
[G2 General] liorra3:
jest wonder, if im haveing an root on my devices and not recovery, do i still can get an ota updates from lg ?
[G2 General] :
Root yes updates will work but if you have a different recovery then no.
[G2 General] DeaconBoogie:
Lagfix in the Play store. I TRIM the filesystem every morning. Maybe it's needed on the G2 or maybe not, but I can tell you on my GNex it was a goddamn savior.
[G2 General] kcharng:
Android being what it is, I haven't seen any major updates to functionality since 4.1. But coming from Galaxy Nexus, I can totally understand a year down the road the need for developers and roms to keep your device feeling new.

-LG G2
[G2 General] Freshly_Snipes:
What I've seen nobody mention is the 2 important facts that lead me (or anyone who's worked for a carrier/mobile company) to believe 4.4 will be swiftly available for all G2's.

1. LG G2 was released on all 4 major US carriers. This puts them in a major role of competition against Moto X and Note 3 and GS4. They have to add value again to rehash those numbers in the 4th quarter.

2. LG already has Kit-Kat in their possession. They're making the Nexus 4 (2013). They have a HUGE LEAD on others which have to wait for it to be pushed to AOSP like everyone else. So I'm sure it's likely they're already working on it for the G2. That's the advantages of being the Nexus builder that year.
[G2 General] NaveenKumarXDA:
1. Lg g2 on all carriers do not guaranty for regular updates. Lg don't care about any value other than sales point. According to them After selling it's waste of resource to give updates. Only they do not accept it publicly.

2. All OEM have kitkat codes months before release in possession. Nothing like lg develop for nexus. They only make hardware & sell it to Google. Than Google develop software for it. So lg have nothing to develop for nexus 4.

:confused:

Basically what I get from lg is that they sell hardware. So that Google or xda members can develop on themselves to get updates. But here is also problem: no officially unlocking of bootloader which all other give (HTC, Sony or Google). :mad:

Now you compare there excellent facilities with any other OEM & you will get where I am going.:banghead:
[G2 General] Freshly_Snipes:
Not entirely true. Google and whatever manufacturer they make the Nexus with work together. Whatever OEM is doing a Nexus has a dedicated team that is actually at Google HQ working directly with Google on software and Hardware changes alike. LG supports them from start to finish.

Also, all OEM's do not have KitKat code. They have access to an early PDK. Not the actual AOSP source. Only the current has that.
[G2 General] NaveenKumarXDA:
So Samsung, Asus, lg, have aosp but HTC not ? Joke of century. :D
[G2 General] Ascertion:
I will be getting my G2 very soon, just waiting on Sprint to release it!!! You have no idea how hard it is for a phone junkie like me lmao. But to be honest - in the U.S. Sprint usually has the best track record for updating their devices in a timely manner, followed by AT&T/T-Mobile, then Verizon dead last. And I expect LG G2 to get 4.4 soon followed by the next OS next year, etc. G2 is a giant step up for LG and I think if they really advertise correctly and support their product, they can get some decent sales. They just have to strive customers away from the "iPhone" of Android, aka Samsung.
[Moto X Accessories] bso44:
So Cruzerlite sent me one of their TPU cases to test and review and I just got it today.

http://www.cruzerlite.com/cases/mot...e-bugdroid-circuit-tpu-case-for-google-moto-x

First impression is that it's a nice case. Very slim and a tight fit with all the cutouts aligned perfectly. I got the smoke-translucent colored one and I'm digging the Andy the Android circuit design on the back. The back is made out of a matte TPU material while the edges are glossy and it feels really good in the hand.

I also have two other TPU cases for the Moto X - one by Hyperion and the other a generic s-line case off Ebay. The one big advantage the Cruzerlite has over the other two, besides the design art, is that there are cutouts for the power button and volume rocker which I very much prefer.

My one gripe, and it's either a minor or major one depending on the user, is that there's no cutout for the dimple. This is a major drawback for me since I've found that the dimple has become a natural place for me to put my finger especially when I'm talking on the phone. I love my dimple and I would miss it if was covered up.

So I'm probably going back to the Hyperion TPU case for now. I'd say overall, the Cruzerlite is a nicer case but the covered dimple is just a deal breaker for me. If that doesn't matter to you, I'd highly recommend the Cruzerlite if you're looking for a good TPU case.
[Moto X Accessories] Droidguy987:
Can you post a pciture of the dimple cutout?
[Moto X Accessories] bso44:
You mean on the Hyperion case right? Here you go:
[Moto X Accessories] fabyloso:
What if you cut the hole yourself, to make the "dimple"?
[Moto X Accessories] bso44:
I guess you could do that. I'm fine with just sticking with my Hyperion case for now though.
[Moto X Accessories] Cowboy_Henk:
I'm wondering if you can simply cut out the dimple by yourself. I'm going to use a large wood drill bit or with something like this

http://www.horseshopinternational.n...e95/g/e/gecombineerde_gaatjestang_700_419.jpg
[Moto X Accessories] savini72:
once i get my Cruzerlite case, i plan on cutting a hole in it for the dimple. i plan on using a Dremel and a few different tips to smooth out the edges and make it look a bit more professional. ill post pictures within the week to show how it goes!
[Moto X Accessories] savini72:
used one of my dremel tips and put a shallow dip in my case. came out pretty good, a little of center, but i think i can deal with it...

I shaded it in with a pencil for a picture so you can see it better
[Moto X Accessories] n00bpwner333:
Do you think it would work with a tempered glass screen protector? I have a Mime and the Hyperion case pushes up the edges.
[Moto X Accessories] ElectronicGeek:
For me the cruzerlite case is great except for the fact that it collects dust and pocket lint and can scratch the plastic edging around the edge of the phone. Other than that it's great, just warning the potential buyers.
[HTC EVO 3D] Chris.J.:
I didn't S-OFF, 1.58 HBOOT. I've tried more that one rom. but can NOT get it to boot, Do I need to S-OFF and Reflash?

I messed up and Can not install 4EXT due to it not booting.

I have the HTCdev unlock
[HTC EVO 3D] hossman:
Can you get to recovery?

Flash a sense ICS ROM

Then you may need to flash the boot.img through fastboot

Then go get s off
[HTC EVO 3D] Pret-a-portè:
Don't worry, if you want you can flash the 4ext image recovery from pc.

Go in fastboot mode, toggle it to pc, open the cmd/shell and flash the recovery with this command:

fastboot flash recovery 4EXTTouch.img

Remember to enable the smartflash option in "tools" section inside the recovery before to install a rom.

After this, you can install a Sense based rom.

I don't know AOSP rom that boot with smartflash feature, so if you know just install it.

If you have some problems with any step, ask :) :good:
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] noobsquared:
Hi,

I am sorry if this has been answered but I have no idea what to even search on. Been looking for different terms with no luck.

I have been on Optimus G Pro for a while and forgot how to modify a phone.

Anyways, I exchanged it with this guy who said it's DE HTC One.

What's weird is that when I reboot, I get AT&T animation and logo. I get AT&T Icons and it's AT&T Rom from what I can tell with 4.1.2.

He was a 47 year old man and never messed with anything and paid $600 for this phone.

This is what I see on my HBOOT screen:

HBOOT Screen Info

*** LOCKED ***

M7_UL PVT SHIP S-OFF RH

CID-11111111

HBOOT-1.44.0000

RADIO-4A.17.3250.20

OpenDSP-v31.120.274.0617

eMMC-boot

Jul 5 2013, 16:04L18-1

Does anyone know if it's really a DE phone and he just ran AT&T RUU on it or something? If he did the S-OFF, shouldn't it say UNLOCKED?

I'm trying to root and all to install 4.3 but don't want to end up bricking since it's a weird S-OFF locked phone and I haven't been on HTC One forum in a while so not really sure what's going on.

Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.

TL;DR: I just got HTC One which user claims is DE and I don't know if it is..just want to get 4.3 on it :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] xeni:
Looking at this the CID of eight 1's means he changed it to a supercid. Also S-OFF can be achieved by using REVONE/MOONSHINE without messing with the LOCKED/TAMPERED/UNLOCKED messages so you can always turn S-ON and you would never know. If you are in fastboot can you run "fastboot getvar all" and see what MID you have. Also check what version of the software you are running. I don't own a developer edition so I am not sure if it would have the AT&T boot and logo.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] cschmitt:
Look at the back, does it have an AT&T globe logo?

Either way, with s-off you can flash DE ruu, or anything you want.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] noobsquared:
Thanks guys.

Here is what I get when I do fastboot getvar all:

X:\Downloads\htcone>fastboot getvar all

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.44.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 4A.17.3250.20

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 1.26.502.15

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-OFF

(bootloader) serialno: XXXXXXXXXXXX

(bootloader) imei: xxxxxxxxxxx

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m7_ul

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064

(bootloader) modelid: PN0712000

(bootloader) cidnum: 11111111

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3851mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: off

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

getvar:all FAILED (status read failed (Too many links))

finished. total time: 0.085s

It does have the AT&T logo in the back as well.

I guess he lied to me but either way I think I got a good deal considering that OGPro is selling for much lower price than HTC One.

I guess I just didn't know that you could change CID and do the S-Off and still say locked on HBOOT screen. I've always had TEMPERED or UNLOCKED on my HTC phones so its just hard to remember.

I guess I will unlock it using htc site and install CWM...CleanROM 4.3..here I come :)

Thanks a bunch once again guys.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] noobsquared:
I was simply able to flash the ruu.zip file using the following commands on my Mac:

./fastboot oem rebootRUU

./fastboot flash zip rom.zip

./fastboot reboot

Thanks everyone for your help. It seems like the update worked just fine.

I got the error: RUU: "FAILED (remote: 90 hboot pre-update! please flush image again immediately)" the first time I ran it, I just re-ran the command and it worked like a charm and it seems like I am on 4.3 now.

Thanks a bunch everyone :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] cschmitt:
Yes, just flash RUU twice in a row to get hboot to take.

DE and AT&T versions are exact same hardware, so no real loss. If you need sim unlock that's $3.50 on eBay.

Might want to remove serialno and IMEI from previous post...
[HTC One S] myphonesbetter:
Are there any touchwiz or touchwiz like roms for the one s?

I haven't been installed a new rom in quite some time. (still running the old maximus ICS rom)

As I am installing the new HD maximus rom I am searching for a touchwiz rom for htc phones. and I cant seem to find any.

I just like the all the little simple features and multitasking. just want to try something new.

Im sure this has been brought up before but for some reason Im not getting the "search this forum" search bar.