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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] robroth:
I just cut/paste from Negri, so I don't really know. Just picked up my Note 3 today from TMOB. And had to root it to sim unlock the thing since TMOB wouldn't unlock it for 41 days (I dunno where they came up with that number, just annoyed to pay $780 to be told they won't unlock it right then and there)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
What rom are you using and if darthstalker what did you choose when asked for device.....thanks for any help...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
I'm still on Darthslalker v2. That was before the multi carrier option. I'm on compulsion kernel also with no OC. I've been wanting to hop over to stainless or omega though. When it asks for carrier/device I would pick ATT.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
ok, double thanks...just asking because cant seem to get lte to work on any rom i flash...was working on stock rom but not now...all settings correct...so lost...thanks again
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Please post screen shots of your apn as well as the one where you selected lte at the end. We'll get it working!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mongonexus:
question for the gurus here,have tmo note3 on att and when i go to network info it says lte14,,any ideas on lte14 ?? thanx guys steve
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
here you go...thanks for the help...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
What phone are you coming from? Do you have another ATT phone around or from a friend you could test LTE on with your sim card? Did you give ATT your IMEI to your n900t?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
I orginally had att phone which got lte..i then traded someone my att phone for unlocked tmobile phone...we both went to att store and put our imei numbers in with our phones....then i had lte on tmobile phone after that....so with both phones att and tmobile lte was working with stock rom...even after giving imei to att...thats whats weird.....
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
That is your problem. It may have taken a few minutes or hours to work through the ATT system but if they have your T-Mobile imei, no LTE. It has taken in some cases a day to lose lte coming from an iPhone from people posting here. You need to get a ATT imei and give it to them. Search this thread. There are various methods people have used from using demo units or friends phones. It doesn't affect their service in any way.

BTW, you can verify it is ATT's issue by inserting your sim into an ATT phone and testing LTE. My guess is you won't get LTE.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
I have 3 phones on account...all 3 are 4g lte capable...can i just tell them that my phone is now note 2 and give them that imie for my phone and then put tmobile phone on other account....would that work and not mess up service...i know the other line with tmobile wouldnt get lte but they dont need it anyways....thanks for your help...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
I would just put your sim in the other phone, call att and give them the imei to get your lte back then hang up. Then stick it back in your T-Mobile note 3. All would have LTE then. Don't put the tmobile phone on the other account by giving them the IMEI again. That would be a waste of time and screw up their LTE when you don't need to.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
If i do that wont att recognize that their are 2 imei numbers on both phones....will that mess something up......also if i put att sim in tmobile phone will it mess something up like will att reconize that this is not there device and stop service to it....thanks again for your help...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Nope, won't mess anything up. People have been using tmobile phones with att service for years. Way before the note 3. They won't stop your service or anyone elses.

Sure they will know that the same IMEI is on both accounts but it doesn't matter. It's just like you are sharing the note 2 between accounts using the 2 sims. Don't mess with the other accounts only yours. Put the phone with it's IMEI on your account and get LTE and then you are done with talking to ATT. Give the phone back and put your sim in your note 3. The last phone that was on your family members account will have been the note 2 so they will get LTE and the last phone on your account will have been the ATT note 2 also. Don't give ATT your N900T IMEI for any reason.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
Okay so i can just tell them that i am sharing the note 2 with both accounts correct??? they will go for that or are they going to put up a gripe...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
No, don't tell them anything. Just that you want to update your IMEI because you have an ATT note 2. If they happen to say anything about it being on the other account, which I highly doubt, just say they will be getting a new phone in a few days.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
okay will try and let you know....i have the imei of the note 2....do i have to physically have my sim installed when calling them or can i just call with the sim number...anyway they can tell i dont have my sim in note 2...thanks again..
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Yes, physically call from the ATT note 2 with your sim in it if you can. It is easier that way. Some have called from a land line and had them change it manually but you have some explaining to do if you do it that way. Calling from the ATT phone is the fastest way with no hassle and no explaining.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
Ok thanks will try tonight and let you know......
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
Hey quick question...what if they tell me they cant have 1 imie number on 2 accounts.....what are my options then.....thanks...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Haha, you are making this much more difficult than it needs to be. Don't worry about the other account. Like I said before IF they ask just say your family member is getting another ATT phone later. That's it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] les_garten:
Mircury, you seem to have a Hnadle on this. I have a few questions.

When you call them, can't they see the IMEI on the phone you are on?

I called them from a phone that I was able to set my own IMEI on(Hint Chinese). I had set the IMEI to my old Samsung Eternity Feature phone that my dog ate, true story! I did not want to use or be charged for mobile data, only use wifi on my smartphone(chinese). I was calling to fix Voicemail. They asked me the IMEI and I gave them the one I set on the phone(Sammy Eternity), which you could also get by doing *#06#. Well they must have seem something hinky. My phone rebooted. And when it came up, it had the original Chinese IMEI on it!

I shut it down and told them the battery was dead. Had them fix the VM and reprogrammed the IMEI and it has been the same IMEI ever since. No issues

This goes back to, if they can see the IMEI that is on the phone, why would they accept a Bogus IMEI?

They really go out of their way to give us trouble on this for some bizarre reason that makes no sense to me.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
The IMEI is used from what I've read and seen to see what phone you have and what services are compatible with it. So, when you put a ATT Android LTE device on the ATT system it says, "Ok, I will give you these data services with these tweaks or whatever." The ATT system will not just out of the blue reconfigure your data services unless it has to or you go out of the your way to make it by giving ATT a new IMEI. With the N900T the ATT system says, "I don't recognize this IMEI it's not in my database, I don't know what device it is. I'm going to give you these basic data services." Which for whatever reason does not include LTE.

So the moral of the story is. If it ain't broke don't fix it. ATT won't reconfigure your data unless you give them another IMEI or come from a completely different phone like an iphone.

No one wants the big carriers to have a closed network. The FCC and the government are probably the biggest reasons the carriers haven't gone hostile and forbidden BYOD's. Verizon is probably the closest with refusing to activate nexus devices. The FCC is currently fighting to have phones carrier unlocked easier so people can use them on different networks.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] les_garten:
But my question is, can they see the digits of the IMEI?

So do you think they can see IMEI digits and Device ID and Features?

If unknown IMEI it would just list IMEI and say unknown?

When the original Note International came out(no Notes were in the US at that Time). There was a problem because they were all ID'd on ATT as Tablets, maybe Note Tablets. ATT wouldn't allow Phone service to them!

The reason why ATT is crawling along on some things is that...

They have shot both their feet off!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Yes, I think the ATT service reps can see it and I know the ATT network sees it. Whether it shows up on their screen I don't know but I'm pretty sure it does.

I had a international note 1 also and remember that. They had fat finger programmed a range of IMEI's as ATT tablets. I remember I was so frustrated by that now that you mention it. And yes, if the IMEI is not in the ATT database it shows as an unknown device. They only program in the devices that are issued to ATT.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] les_garten:
Thanx!

Your thanx meter looked a little lacking so I nailed ya' on the last coupla pages.

THANX!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rockinandroid:
DUDE>>>YOU ROCK>>>>>I did exactly as you said and they switch the number and now both devices have LTE>>>>THANKS ALOT!!!!!:laugh:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Sorry if its been discussed before, but I have an n900t (tmobile phone) on the att go phone sim but I have no lte icon, I even went out of my way and flashed the build.prop stock att to get the icon and nothing... just pure 4g icon... is there something I did wrong?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] aalupatti:
Dont just go by the icon. Test your speeds and see if they are, what LTE gives you. If you are on an international rom then 4g icon corresponds to LTE
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Im on tmobile custom rom (wicked) and on settings/about/status it goes back and fourth between hspa and hspa+... shouldnt it say lte or something? I know hspa+ is regular 4g
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] aalupatti:
Does gophone support lte in your area.. I read somewhere that it was only recently that you could lte using gophone. Just confirm this first..

Or where u getting lte speeds before ?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Acording to two reps in different stores I do get lte, and the phone rep that did my payment and setup my acct was worried I wouldnt get lte because of the phone I had, it being tmobile and not att

EDIT: considering the rep was worried, im taking it as a yes there is lte where I live
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
I suspect it's the same issue as other people have had here. Don't give ATT your tmobile note 3 IMEI. Is that what happened? I don't know how to emphasize it enough. I put it in red text on the original post. You won't get LTE if you do this. Please go a few pages back and see how to fix it. It's fairly simple but requires a little work on your part. After that you should be good to go.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Ill search a few pages back but I dont think it was that... now that I think bout it I put mu international note 1 imei and that phone isnt lte, however the phone rep did find out somehow, my guess is their system, that I had a note 3

Do you think its either because of the imei of the note 1 or the fact that he found out it was a note 3 thats affecting my lte service?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Yes, since your international note 1 didn't have LTE you didn't notice that your service didn't have LTE. If you change the IMEI to an ATT Android phone with LTE you will get your LTE back.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Maybe a little off topic but the n900t supports a couple of lte bands, if I get a phone that is a 4g lte that has any of those couple of lte bands, it will work right? Im looking at an lg optimus ge970 to be exact
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
For ATT you need LTE bands 4 and 17. If you give them an IMEI that is from a non ATT branded phone, LTE will not work even if it supports those bands.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] m_reyna_16:
Last question, does it need both 4 and 17 or either or will work? The lg optimus g e970 supports lte 700 MHz class 17/1700/2100 bands but not band 4... sorry for the questions just wanna make sure I buy something that will work
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
ATT uses both in the US. So if it doesn't have both it won't work as good or won't get LTE at all in your area. If this is the version of the phone sold by ATT then you don't have anything to worry about. If it's an international version or for some other carrier then you have to do some research. Also LTE is not the only thing you have to worry about on non ATT branded phones. You also need the proper UMTS bands for hspa data and gsm bands.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] godsvisitor:
thanks to developer (chainfire)

I bought both ATT and TMOBILE Samsung Galaxy Note3. I could unlock both using "region lock away" app. Now I can use any SIM in either of them. I rooted both phones with de La Vega method. Special thanks to him. I will buy chainfire's app ASAP to support him.

Good luck everyone.

P.S: I used a SIM card that came with the phone (ATT) in my other newly unlocked phone (TMOBILE). It did not get any signal. So I thought I somehow did not manage to unlock it. I spent half a night to understand that. Finally I considered to use a different ATT simcard and realized that simcard itself is somehow tied to the phone. I suggest you to be sure that, simcards that you are trying are not tied to a certain IMEI (phone).
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] thejmannnc:
Hello, I have a question I hope you can help me with. I have a t mobile note 3 using net 10 as my provider.(I use Straight Talks APN) I was told net 10 and straight talk were basically the same since tracfone owns them both. Anyway i used Chainfire's region unlock app (worked perfect) and got an att sim card from net 10. I live out of the city but get 4g and 4g lte signals constantly on my phone. But when I run a speed test OOKLA, I only get around 9 to 10 Mbps. Sometimes more, sometimes less. And really no difference if the signal shows 4g or 4glte on my phone in speed test results. Am I truly getting 4g or 4g lte even with those speeds? Shouldnt it be faster? And also when I only show 4g on my phone the mobile network type is HSPA or HSPA+ . Is the correct? But even when mobile network type is LTE (I just have to go outside) no real difference in speed. I hope this isn't to many questions but its really confusing and ANY help explaining any of this would be very much appreciated!!

Thank you and Merry Christmas!!!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] DonDerham:
cellunlocker.net The Note 3 has a region lock feature , , , ,

Bought an N900T off Ebay for use on AT&T. Cellunlocker.net advises:

Please be advised in order to unlock your Samsung Note 3, you MUST activate the phone with the original carrier or SIM issued within your designated location. This must occur before you attempt to unlock and activate the phone with a

foreign sim card

. The Note 3 has a region lock feature separate to sim unlocking and

if unlocked before activating to its original carrier or continent the phone

will be region-locked and must be unlocked directly from Samsung. For more information, please refer to the warning sticker found on the packaging that your phone came in.

Is this a warning that I need to take seriously if I'm using a TMo phonr on AT&T?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Ignore it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
Band 4 1700MHz LTE not working?!

I've been disappointed with the signal I've been getting on AT&T on my T-Mobile Note 3 compared to my budget AT&T LTE Pantech Burst.

I think it might be the fact that Band 4 1700MHz LTE isn't working? Can someone who has a T-Mobile Note 3 dial *#2263# and select Band 4 LTE and see if it works for them?

Assuming AT&T has Band 4 1700MHz LTE in their area...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
I have a feeling something is up with the modem, maybe it's this...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
Think it's hardware or just the firmware?

My Note 3 is dropping LTE all the damn time while my Pantech Burst and my Note II (When I had it) had a perfectly stable LTE connection.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
Yeah, I think it's the firmware not handling the LTE connection, but I am not expert enough on LTE signals. I will try what you suggested to get the LTE 17 band.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
no no it's band 4 I think is the issue not 17!

Band 4 is 1700MHz

Band 17 is 700MHz
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
Thanks for the correction.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] daraj:
Has anyone been able to flash an AT&T modem on their Tmobile version? I tried through Mobile Odin but didn't flash anything although said succeeded. Maybe somewhere there is a custom recovery flashable zip for the modem?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
I tried this today with an AT&T and an international modem on my T-Mobile Note 3 and it seemed like it didn't do anything either, same baseband afterward. Not sure what's up but I'd sure like a little bit better signal quality on my T-Mobile Note 3 on AT&T.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boredy:
TMobile would not unlock the Note3 unless I have a plan with them? Has anyone been successful with the unlock from outside sources? Can you please post a link where I can unlock this Tmobile Note 3? Thanks
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
That question is answered in the post you just quoted. :)

Sent from my SM-N900T
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] V@no:
Since I got the phone 2 days ago I haven't seen more then 2 bars on it. (ATT N2 was getting 3-4 bars)

Selected B4 and no signal at all.

Then selected LTE All and it showed 3 bars...speed didn't change though.

This is weird that B4 doesn't work...can't be hardware, because according to wiki this is the only band tmob uses for LTE.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] les_garten:
You'll be happier in your life if you just ignore the bars. I can't see that they have any correlation to anything.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] V@no:
It doesn't bother me to see the two bars, what's bothers me, however, is the fact that poor signal kills battery.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] daraj:
I believe band 4 is the problem with low reception. and by low reception I mean dbm and by looking at the signal bars. I think if we properly flash an att modem on the tmobile phone this will solve things.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] les_garten:
I am pretty much at 1 or 2 bars all the time and don't see excessive battery drain.

I am at 1% per hour with hundreds of apps installed.

I think that is high drain, but I have everything on all the time and have not gone seeking battery saving measures since this is as good as my Note I did with everything twekaed on it so I'm happy with it as is.

How fast is your phone draining? How did you localize the problem to the modem and the number of bars it displays?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] V@no:
1% is twice more then what N2 is using.

I know, I know, comparing apples with oranges, but I didn't have enough time to test the battery on this phone yet.

Theoretically low signal should make phone try boost the signal to compensate all the time. Perhaps they tweaked in N2, but still 1%/h is a lot.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
I updated the OP with a section on CM11/Kitkat. Sources for the note 3 were released this morning.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
So anyone figure out this stuff with Band 4 1700MHz LTE? There's no reason I should be getting great signal strength/downloads over LTE on a cheap Pantech Burst and garbage signal quality and speeds on my Note 3. Band 4 refuses to select in the Service Menu on the Note 3 which I'm pretty sure is the reason for all of this.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
How did you figure out the lte data towers in your area were 1700mhz? Most are on 700mhz for AT&T. Having said that 1700mhz lte is a primary lte band for the n900t so I'm sure it's looking for it.

Also can you post the service menus of both your note 3 and the pantech that shows your lte db strength. Also it would be helpful if you can post some side by side speed tests. In my city I'm not seeing any signal quality/speed issues and battery life is much better than my N2 was.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
I assume that because it's the only thing to explain the poor signal on my Note 3. Unfortunatly the DB reading is broken on my Pantech for LTE but It has never dropped LTE at my house and it's always atleast 2 out 4 bars, where as my Note 3 is 0 out 4 bars and drops back down to HSPA+. When I force the Note 3 onto LTE only I get like 200KB/s download and the Pantech gets 1-2MB/s download. So Band 4 not working is the only thing I can think of to explain my Note 3's poor signal and speed (Seeing as Band 4 refuses to stick in the Service Menu)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Well one things is for sure. The bars are almost useless. The carriers have different formulas that they use to determine signal. I'm sure you remember the ATT debacle where they showed 2 bars when there was no signal on the iphone. Some carriers can be more conservative than others. The ONLY way to tell is the db strength.

What happens speed wise when you go to an area of your city that has very strong signal?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
Anyway if it's not Band 4 being broken then this is either crappy antennas or that stupid Qualcomm power enveloping ****

---------- Post added at 07:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 PM ----------

Note 3 gets like 2-3MB/s down and the Burst gets around 3-5MB/s

It's really disappointing since you know... the Note 3 is a $700+ device and the Burst... can easily be found for like $50ish on eBay.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
I tested with band 17 only on ATT. LTE modem still crashes and CPU heat increases until I reboot.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
What happens speed wise when you switch sim cards?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
Why would they be getting different speeds? They're both AT&T 5GB data plans.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Poor bigbiff, how come you don't try one of the newer builds? You still on the original firmware?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
You will only get hspa speeds even if you selected LTE if ATT has the imei to your note 3.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
You mean international?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
AT&T most certainly doesn't have the IMEI to my T-Mobile Note 3. In fact they probably still have the IMEI to my AT&T Note 3 that I sold a long time ago.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
Ya, like stainless. Did you patch the modem with region away to unlock or use the code?

Sent from my SM-N900T
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bigbiff:
I unlocked with cellunlocker code. I was going to play around with an international rom this weekend and try to get SELINUX enforcing working.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
24 mbps is definitely lte for ATT if you are getting 2-3MB/s. What city are you in?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] KosanRio:
Conway, AR.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] mircury:
I looked at your area with rootmetrics and you guys don't have that good of a data network especially compared to Little Rock. You said you were getting 3MB/s? That's really fast for that area.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Okarina26:
Hi could somebody help me...i need a T- Mobile Modem (USA) to flash it with Odin....i tryed to find one but i was not able to....:( thanks...!!!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] raysacr:
How is everyone's mms doing? My mms sending and receiving is very sporadic, sometimes it work sometimes it doesnt. My apn is set correctly. Is there anything else that I need to change or fix?