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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Josh H.:
Nope. After 6 months, with Jump, you just give it back and stop paying. Then you get a new phone.

Edit: After

a minimum of

6 months*
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Happy to help!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] motohip:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that with JUMP, you have to pay $10 a month and when you're ready to upgrade, you have to turn your phone back in?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Josh H.:
I think you have the option of either buying it out or giving it back. So you'd have to weigh your options based on the residual value and current street value. For example if you kept it for 23 months and then wanted to upgrade, it would probably be worth buying it out for the last $29 rather than giving it back at that point.

And Jump includes insurance, which is $8 itself, so really you're only paying $2/month for the ability to upgrade (JUMP itself).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] motohip:
When I get my phone tomorrow at the store I'm going to have to get all the details cause this sounds pretty good.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tweh:
It took me so long to switch from my 10 year Classic Plan because I was so skeptical of JUMP. Now I'm starting to understand the benefits (slowly).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
And that's a normal person. If you want to upgrade every 6 months, you get into crazy territory. 174 dollars as opposed to 332.

I'm curious though. I don't think theres any chance that come February, they're going to keep doing these 0 dollar down plans. That's when all the initial jump users will be able jump. they'd be losing a crapload of money if you'd be able to just make payments on brand new phones with no initial payments and then do the same thing after 6 months... although, that is sort of what at&t and verizon are doing... maybe they should do it... I would so rather not put anything down on brand new phones and just pay higher monthly payments... That would mean paying a standard 25-30 dollars a month and getting a new phone every 6 months just for the hell of it.... awesome..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
For normal (yearly upgrades) you arent really saving a ton of money but you are going to be able to just get a new phone without the hassle of selling your phone on craigslist and the scams and robberies that can come with the territory and you don't have to keep the phone in immaculate condition. "As long as it boots up, no water damage and no cracked screen, you can jump." That's what John Legere said.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Josh H.:
Heck yes! I think we're all getting a great deal here.

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And if it is broken in some way, that's where the insurance would kick in anyway. I'm not 100% clear on how that works yet, but I'm guessing there would just be some deductible involved before you could then "jump."
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
They made it a little confusing. It looks great in their ads break you phone and jut JUMP! But really it works just like regular insurance. There's a big deductible if you break it. But what's nice is, you arent really paying more for jump. I was paying 12 dollars for insurance on my note 2 before, now i pay 10 for both.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tweh:
Just a heads up. You won't be walking out without paying anything. With all the down payment plans the tax on the remaining balance is due. So as an example, if it were still $199 down, the tax on the remaining $500 (8.875% x $500= approx $44) would be added to the down payment [$199/tax+$44=$243]. And that's new york sales tax.

Now that its $0 down the tax of the total amount of the phone will be due (8.875%of 703.99=$62.50). So be prepared to pay $70 tomorrow.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Ok, i really have to go to sleep now... But no. You're misinformed, you alway have to pay the full sales tax on the full retail price, it doesn't matter how much you put down. I've looked into this. Even if you weren't going to do the zero down, you were still going to pay the 60-70 dollars in sales tax.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tweh:
Umm.... I think that's what I said.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
You seemed to be saying that now you have to pay the tax on the whole phone instead of just on 500 and that's not true. You always had to pay the full tax.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tweh:
I was speaking from the position of someone (was me at one point) who might think that $0 means nothing due at purchase. But what I explained is the exact process I when through when purchasing my wife's S4.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] motohip:
I think everyone considering jump should read this first. And if you have not so good credit, read this.

According to the article, it only makes sense if you upgrade every 6 months.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Eh, it's wrong for 3 reasons. 1, the 10 dollars includes the insurance which most people already have, 2,right now, there's no money down, that puts you over the edge. And 3, and most importantly, he says it's like renting or buying, no, it's not. Because when you buy a house, the value stays he same, or goess up generally. With a phone. After 2 years, the value has gone down. Alot. Yes you can keep it as a spare, but alot of people sell their phones, to friends or on craigslist, eBay and use that money towards a new phone, or on tmo, to pay off the previous phone and start over. With just, their saving you the hassle.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] petard:
Hah I can't believe so many people fall for these scam plans. Especially the Verizon dude who not only doesn't lower his monthly rate but also doesn't get to use phone subsidies for as long as he's using their scam. And you're all forgetting to include the cost of JUMP in your calculations. Unless you break phones all the time and were planning to have insurance either way then JUMP is a ripoff. Insurance too is a ripoff, especially considering those huge deductibles.

I guess that's what happens when people don't work simple math problems out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Josh H.:
Agreed--thinking of your phone as an "investment" as discussed in the article is probably not something people do very often. Maybe comparing it to leasing vs. buying a new car would make more sense. You pay the monthly amount as the value declines. At the end of the term, you decide whether to it buy out or give it back and start a new lease.

Say you "lease" a $600 phone for one year, and it costs you $300 to do that. At the end of the year, you give it back. If the phone declined in value by $300 over that same year, that is the same thing as if you outright bought the phone for $600, kept it for a year, and then sold it for $300. Either way, you end up down $300, and with no phone. That's just the price of getting to use a nice phone for a year. And of course with jump, you control when (and if) you trade.

Also very important is that there are no early termination fees because there are no contracts. I'm paying Sprint quite a bit of money tomorrow to get out of my contract. You could also think of that fee as me "paying off" my subsidized phone. With jump, I am given the choice: pay off my phone and leave, or give the phone back and leave. No such choice with Sprint; I'm buying out my phone whether I want to or not.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] netnerd:
or you can just pay 299.99 with a 2 years contract (ATT, Verizon) and KEEP the phone!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Josh H.:
Yes, you can, but it's still all the same in the end. You are still paying the full $600 or whatever the real price is over the course of that two year contract. The remaining (financed) cost is just built into cost of the plan as opposed to clearly separated out as T-Mobile does it.

Every carrier gets the full amount for the phone in the end, whether it's through contract completion, early termination fee, or completion of your monthly payments.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] abalosmusic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010KyIQjkTk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mad383Max:
Where is it built in? I pay the same amount for my plan whether I have a subsidized phone on it or after 2 years I keep the same phone or stick my sim card in any other phone i own and use. My plan rate never changes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chauza:
Can't wait for this! There are three T-Mobile stores here in my city, I hope to get one this morning (going to bed now..)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] randpost:
I went ahead and ordered from T-Mobile a few minutes ago. Its a pretty good deal. I was charged 81.58 and that includes 10.00 for the SIM cost and 11.99 for overnight shipping. The rest of the charge is taxes. So about 60.00 in taxes.

Not bad. I'll cancel my Note 3 preorder on Verizon and terminate(port) 1 of my lines tomorrow. I'll wait on canceling my other VZ lines. Need to test the TMo waters first.

At 6 months I will have spent 240.00 (40 a month) plus the 60.00 on taxes bringing my grand total to 300 when I can trade in my device.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[Galaxy Note 3 General] motohip:
Why didn't you just wait until the morning to pick it up in store?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] randpost:
I don't have time for that. I live a fair distance from a T-MOBILE store.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Dude that's the whole idea!! They're charging you extra whether you get a new phone or not, and whatever phone you get they're always charging you the same amount. Tmobile doesn't charge you by default they've separated it from the bill so in THE CASE YOU JUST MENTIONED, if you finished your 2 year contract, you pay a lower rate, if you get a used phone you pay a lower rate, you can by the nexus 4 and pay a lower rate. You have options with tmobile like you just don't have with anyone else..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Jesse_piatt@msn.com:
sprint 0 down.

Sprint is doing the same 0 down and 29 per month but they are giving a 15$ monthly discount. 2 note 3's are going to cost me 30 per month extra on my account.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bozoz:
$29/month for 6 months = $174 to "rent" the Note 3 for 6 months would be a great deal.

$29/mo + $10 JUMP fee + $60-70 tax, or approximately $300+ for the 6-month rental is not such a great deal IMO.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DKYang:
I got it this morning. Looks like they raised the full price to $708 and I can't double check this online since it's sold out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Prod1702:
You pay tax on $704 no matter what up front. It isn't tax on $199.99. They tax the whole phone because there is no tax on the payments on the bill.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] netnerd:
wouldnt it be a better deal if you pay 125$ more (299$) with a 2 years contract and keep the phone? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Prod1702:
the counter to that is that once you get a new phone you most likely will never use that old phone again unless you have to.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] randpost:
I should add in that TMO waives activation fee and you get 50.00 back for using a Bank of America debit card.

I get insurance on any new phone so the 10.00 jump fee (includes insurance) for T-Mobile doesn't count towards phone cost for me. That's just me. Things may vary for you.

So I'm just paying for my phone full retail with 0 Apr in monthly installments. I also get to upgrade my phone after six months or pay off the phone anytime I want to. It's my choice if I rent or keep the phone Better than VZ.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chauza01:
White is not available here in Hayward. Not sure about other cities, but the elegance of black easily changed my mind. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Prod1702:
White is not in any store yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dxwilliams40:
The jump plan helps us phone junkies save money. If you are the type that keeps the phone for the entire 2 year period the subsidized route is best. I'm like a bi**h in heat each time a new phone comes out so I'm canceling my main line with att and jumping with T-Mobile.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tweh:
Not sure where you're getting your info, but according to the experience I had in the store and my receipt, this is the correct info.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Thats not true. Some store i brooklyn, ny had white. I got black and my bro got white.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mottyengel:
Then something is messed up by you or, more likely, you arent reading it right.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Diogenes5:
You can pay as much as you want to the phone and then pay the difference split over 24 months with 0% financing. My first payment isn't due to the end of November. In the meantime, I can sell my Note II and contribute the receipt to the Note III. 250 dollars spread over 24 months is like 10 bucks a month. It's a nice bonus for people who already own their phone outright.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] weirdingway:
rofl $50 just to restock...tmo is great my ass
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amd4life:
Just a heads up for relatively new tmo customers, just tried to pick one up on the $0 down, and they told me since I had only been with the company six months I needed to pay $188+tax (seems arbitrary?) . This is of course AFTER, I paid off my note2. And no I don't have credit issues.

Its business, but kinda slimy that the clerk told me after I paid off my note2.

Also they had both white and black in Stock, they had a ton.

And wow, $50 restock, is that even if the device is broken/non rooted??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] randpost:
I'm a brand new (less than 2 days) TMO customer with excellent credit. I got the 0 down with no trouble.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amd4life:
Yeah I think the $0 down has some fine print, as to who gets it and who doesn't lol. Not a biggie
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ceroglu:
Many thanks to OP! As soon as I saw this post this morning, I went and grabbed my note 3 with 0 down. I paid about $65 for the tax. I am so glad that I had forgotten to sign my EIP on my pre-order. It was automatically cancelled today which was going to cost my $276!

Already loving the phone, very speedy and slick. Anyone knows if we can root it yet?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Baratheonist:
Same here. I've sold my GN2 already and the moment I read the first post, I cancelled my Negri pre-order for an unlocked Tmobile GN3, then headed to my local Tmobile store. Got it as advertised $0 down + sales tax.

I added the $10 Jump feature which will make it a sweeter deal 6-10 months down the road when a new flagship phone from Samsung (I'm biased towards Samsung :) becomes available. Sweeter even if Tmobile decides to offer a $0 down promo at such time. Will it happen? We'll see.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mellofello808:
I hand down my phone every year to my GF since she doesn't care. Otherwise I would be all over this.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Baratheonist:
Then get rid of your GF...lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ohbreeeezy:
that box is so epic compare to at&t
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amd4life:
Tmo is odd, decided to give customer services a call @ 611 after being shot down in store.. Earlier today, and they were able to give me the $0 down, no problem.

Had to eat the shipping but at least it worked out. Thanks to the OP, guess persistence pays off sometimes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jrggarza:
This phone is Amazing! It blows away my s3. Did any body's come with the region lock sticker on the box? Mine didn't.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Prod1702:
They were suppose to sell them until after Oct 23rd In the store. There was a memo that was sent out to all T-Mobile Reps. I know I got the memo as a rep that all white was to stay in the back room until after Oct 23rd. So you got a store that didn't read there emails.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Janis:
The Jump plan strikes me something like leasing a car.

One thing I haven't yet asked is whether or not you are obligated to hand in your "old" gadget, or if you have a choice to pay it off & keep it instead. In other words, if you have it, are you under contract to use it when you upgrade? I signed up for it because it seemed the "premium-est" insurance plan, which, for now, will probably get the best handling if something happens. It's definitely the clout I'm willing to pay $2 more per month to get, at least for the first six months or so.

My pristine (really, refurb for a bad USB: got it last week) & well-accessorized S3, if I had Jump, would have been worth trading in at or before (about) 14 or 15 months worth of payments remaining to pay. If my whole payment plan is 22 months, I'd have to trade up within 7 months to make it worth it. Otherwise paying it off, keeping it/reselling it myself would be a better value.

The kicker is this: if you don't have the cash to pay it off *after* 8 months, you turn in, say, $300 worth of old phone when you only have $240 left to pay on it. In other words, if you have the cash/credit to buy off your phone, start fresh, you win. If you don't, they win. In the end, it's a big corporation banking on people not doing their math & reading homework and/or keeping a regular schedule. If I'm not mistaken, it's those "self-discipline" skills that are fundamental to financial success. It follows then that T-mo, along with everyone else now, is making a safe bet, but at the expense of the less-fortunate (e.g. if you're undisciplined, in the hospital, too busy with single-parenting, working four jobs, you're not going to be heading to the T-mo store for an upgrade in a timely way, nor will you have the cash in order to pull out of the deal).

If you want to get the $0 down, pay off your current phone & be current with your bill, wait a month, and you're good (given you've motivated knowing that taking care of your credit means more cash & freedom in your pocket in the end). You don't need the Jump plan to get it, but for some odd reason I think it helps, shows how gung-ho you are or something. I wouldn't call this Christmas so much as pay-off for sucking it up when they screw up your bill. God forbid you not pay them for ANY reason.

If you can get the $0 down, it's not like getting a real sale, it's just more free credit sooner, unless you trade up within 8 months. Are you gonna give up your Note3 in May just to try to get your money's worth? The experience of walking out of a store with a $700 gadget for $50 in taxes: amazing. Not real, but it was fun to pretend.

Also, there's an accessory thing going on: 30% off plus buy-2-get-one. I had the clerk put it in writing that I could get that when there were actually accessories to buy.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TopDogg1:
I have AT&T and I just upgrade every 2 years and I sell my old phone on ebay and get at least $200...but to each their own

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That's why u sell the old phone and get most of your money back....I sell my phones after 2 years and always get more than half of what I paid for it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] randpost:
Yeah, 2 year contracts are good for people who are fine with a new phone every two years. It makes fiscal sense.

Personally, "New every two" doesn't make sense for me. I upgrade every 6 months or roughly that.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mr_malina:
I hate the fact TMO stores automatically add Jump to your plan when buying a new phone. With my wife’s S4 I explicitly told them no several times and still ended up on my account. I have a feeling with my Note it will be the same way.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Neo3D:
You're right, the carriers are making money on this hand over fist.

I did my own research on the residual value of a Note II over the period of a full year and it held 57% residual value: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2591308

6 month residual value is going to be much higher.

By giving the phone back at 6mos, people are essentially valuing the residual at:

($700 full price - $300 money spent) / $700 full price = 57%

When that is actually the residual value of the Note II after a full year!

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You have to turn in the existing phone when you upgrade.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
Hello guys i make change the PNG Battery for you combine with the themes of Xperia Tipo, first I made a PNG Battery for Turquoise theme, i going to upload more colors, this is the first one

Screenshots:

Instalation;

Download this: Status Bar and install it whit CMW

Green Battery here:

Thread
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] raajplays:
??

tipo only?? will work on xj?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
I think yes, but try it bro
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] raajplays:
!!

not workin on xj jb buddy...
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
Sorry man, i not saying that it's only for ICS, my mistake
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] PhamTheThao:
How about Miro ?

How about Miro ? :confused::laugh:
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] mustaqeemahmed:
Will this work on my xpreia J ICS?! Please tell me how to backup my existing Status bar and how to install it via recovery (step by step) sorry i'm a beginner​
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] tejasjani55:
I dont know its working on xperia j or not,but to flash it via CWM just go to cwm and browse zip file and flash

Sent from My XPERIA
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
Try it bro, i think it works, but try it
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
In Xperia J ICS works!
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
Soon
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] raajplays:
for ics only ?? y are u still using outdated ics bro
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
I have an Xperia Tipo bro :/ not JB for this model
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ruben21:
Federico que pasó con tu rom en taringa? Cuando montas algo nuevo? :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
English man :)

i'm working on it, i waint until djedjy port the Honami framework
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] mustaqeemahmed:
Okay tell me how to back up my existing Status Bar !!???? (I Mean which file to back up and how)​
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] FedericoPeranzi:
You have to backup SystemUI.apk and Settings.apk just copy and paste to your SD card
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ruben21:
Ok men.. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Ryan Rezpector:
How about it?

With meter data and "X" button to clear notifications

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Sent from Cikarang-Indonesia with my Sony ST23i Mesona
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] buyslake:
Hello,

I purchased my Samsung Galaxy S 4 directly of the T-Mobile web site within a week after it came out this year. I have since rooted it and put a custom rom on it. Now I use it on Red Pocket Mobile.

Today I was carrying a water bottle that had a little hole in the bottom so it was dripping water on my phone which was in my pocket. I realized the water was leaking and pulled the phone out and of course it was wet. I went to turn the screen on and I saw the screen fizzle out.

I am wondering if the screen is fried. It appears to start up. I can hear the usually noise as if it was starting up after putting in a battery and when I push the power key the lights below light up indicating a reaction. However the display never turns on.

I suspect this phone is still under warranty? Will T-Mobile replace it even if I do not have current service with them?

Do I have to send it in or just take it to a store and get a replacement? Does someone have the link to a forum that explains how to return it to stock and unroot?

Any suggestions? I need this phone! ASAP
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Android_Monsters:
Here's how to unroot:

http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html?m=1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Skipjacks:
For future refference the last thing you do after getitng a phone wet is try to test it. Always pullt eh battery IMMEDIATELY and put it in a bowl of rice for 24-48 hours. The rice will absorb the moisture to help dry it.

By turning it own you fried the circuits that were wet beyond repair.

You can still put it in the rice bowl for a day and see if maybe by some miricle it's not really fried though. Also try sitting teh rice bowl near a fan or a vent. Anythign to keep it extra dry.