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[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
Re your laptop analogy. Thats like someone asking me why I own a high horsepower car since techincally I cant use it all on the steets ( even though I do lol). Simple answer because I want to and I can. Its not about justifying anything. ..I have already bought 3 devices this year and just ordered another one.why??? Because I want to and I can :D

That said if my note 3 was region and bootloader locked no way would I have bought it so I hear you there

sent from Canada via my S3,S4 or Note2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bruce lee roy:
Car analogy might work if it was high hp car (corvette) chipped to run like low hp (stock honda). With a car, you always have access to the hp. You may never access all the horses but the ability to is still there. Thus, you don't spend corvette money on a fiesta with corvette body kit.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Every reviewer that took the time to use the N3 as a daily driver commented on how evolved the s/w was compared to earlier Samsung phones. Especially multiview, S Pen, and all the S Pen related apps. There's no phone that can touch the N3 for productivity users and creatives. It's the only reason I have a N3 and am getting a 3G Note 10.1 2014 (with region lock, BTW).

For people that play music, browse, message, read e-mail and game any S-600+ phone will be more than adequate per your analogy. But people that buy a N3 knowing it's loaded with more Samsung s/w than any phone they've ever released and then complain it's not AOSP are either martyrs or a bit masochistic. It's like buying a diesel car and then complaining it drives differently than a gasoline equivalent.

People that hate KNOX, region lock, TW, S Pen, and the S Apps should never even consider the N3 and most likely any future Samsung phone. They should get a AOSP phone like the Nexus 5 and live long and prosper. But Samsung's said 60% of Note-series use S Pen daily which means a large portion of people are buying it for the right reasons.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bruce lee roy:
I agree the sw is evolved in terms of function. But I'm taking more in terms of optimization. Similar to a 64 bit processor running 32 bit software, tw does not appear to be optimized to run on hw of the note 3 (or n2). You can have the most powerful hw but without the software to utilize it, it is only wasted potential.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
The greatest thing about Touchwiz is that you can get rid of it. It's a bit like Internet Explorer, only good for using it to grab an alternative.

Besides, we're on XDA. Complaining endlessly about anything stock bottlenecking the device is nothing short of ridiculous. ;)

I really, really hate those people.... Them, and the people who buy an 1800 euro DSLR, and then leave it on auto because they 'don' t need the rest.'

Those people always make me want to grab tbe nearest blunt object and test Newton's laws of motion...

Send From My Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 Using Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] heavylift:
Bruce lee .. you were just k.o. .. argument wise..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Well.... a bet is a bet ... ;)

And after all, its just a gadget; no big deal, more important things in life.... I think...

Even for a OCFD patient ... :eek:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Gotta admit - having used my stock Note 3 for around a month and today using my Note 2, i must say that the Note 3 has grown on me.

Even the audio, ive adapted to it. I still maintain that I believe Samsung have messed up with regards to the external speaker tho, and my Note2 definitely has the upper hand there . But the N3 sound is bearable after a while.

Also the camera's, I personally prefer the Note 2 shooter, for sure in low light every time.

Still unsure which to use as my daily driver tho. If rooted my Note 3 with Viper audio could take the lead. Just unsure about rooting it with the knox situ at present.

Anyway sorry to interrupt guy's, carry on :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bulbous:
I don't care about rooting my N3.

I rooted my N2 and N10.1 so I know how to do it. It's just with the N3 I haven't found the need yet. It does everything that I want straight out of the box. The day it doesn't then I'll root it in a heartbeat and not care about knox.

Awesome device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I'm not too bothered about knox myself. I'm more bothered about rooting and losing ota updates from Samsung lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Celeste Amaterasu:
I have to say this is probably one of the worst experiences I've had with any portable device.

1. On AT&T which means I'm forced to use TouchWiz that still to this day drops screen display frames ever 2-3 seconds.

2. Screen is pseudo 1080p through lack of subpixels. Every white line has a red line next to it, just looks terrible. Can't view any digital work at the screen's resolution without it being destroyed by the screen.

I know some of this was just lack of knowledge on my part. This is the first phone I've ever gotten and I'm sure I can still recoop losses since I got the phone for $299.

Right now I'm just looking into getting an S4 Active for the LCD screen. Just saw that custom roms came to it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BlueBlazer23:
Well, I like the device overall but what I find outrageous is that pathetic speaker. I really can't remember if I ever had such a weak speaker performance in any phone... Well maybe first Omnia.

N2 destroys N3 in this area.

Also design is a pretty step back.

And who in the blue hell is using irda nowadays? Instead of that, they could put the second speaker or fm transmitter.

And aaaaaall that crapy Samsung software. Mah Gawd, they put it in folders because I'd they didn't, their apps would need four desktops for that.

Therefore I need root. To tune that sounds with Viper and get rid off Sam's apps.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Totally agree mate , my Note 2 kills my N3 external speaker wise. Also camera wise I'm noticing in low light especially - My Note 3 is pathetic.

Such a shame, in other areas im really pleased with my N3. But external audio and low light I feel Samsung cut corners.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] foxxkat:
Yup the camera sucks big time. Have done extensive testing. Don't think it's the apps or settings. And definitely not due to shaky hands. Mostly everything else is good especially the screen :thumbup:

sent from phone
[Galaxy Note 3 General] foxmeister:
Lots of people, myself included, find it *very* useful!

Having two young kids means I'm often hunting around for various IR remotes, so having one on my phone is a god send.

Who in the blue hell is using FM transmitters these days? Awful things that never work as well as they should, that should die out now we have Bluetooth A2DP etc....... Ditto, FM receivers.... ;)

Similarly, I don't really care that the N3 speaker might be marginally worse than the N2's because it is adequate for my purposes - I connect to my Bluetooth speakers if I want more.

Get my drift? I have absolutely no need for either an FR transmitter or a receiver on my phones, but I do appreciate that this might be a "killer" feature for others. Ditto the external speaker. I've found the IR blaster far more useful than I would have expected.

We each have our own particular needs and requirements, and even where these are the same our priorities may be very different.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
This is the worst phone i have ever purchased, can't even play a movie or music probably. video skips audio output is made from brown stuff.

The firmware is bloated and we are already out of date OS wise.

Only the battery life is only positive point here.

I decided to sell N3 soon as Knox can't be reset as i had flash my phone in order to get it to work.

In the meant time I will install a million and 1 mods to get the phone to a usable state.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
I don't like lags, screen, crappy plastic and speaker...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
My only issues are audio and cam, can live with the rest .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] heavylift:
And to thought that I have been reading this thread everyday the last month .

lol.

you guys are all crazy.

I bought my n9005 yesterday . Posting this from the device.

yes it as purple smearing when scroling a black and grey picture in lowest brightness .. and in fact even a bit with higher brightness..

but is something I have to look for it, I never encounter this issue in normal using.

having said that .

the screen is perfect even , illumination and no banding in gradients perfect pich blacks , how can someone prefer a ips screen is completely beyond me, I think those guys must be daltonic or partial color blind so that they don't see the superiority of amoled.

Warming.. my device doen't warm more than normal, in fact in runs pretty cool, played 1 hour straight gangstar vegas, stop to dowload another game and watch and youtube hd video while on it, all this while battery charging , and it was 35 °c

Screen dimming , not once.

cpu throttling , not once , I mean with 4 hours screen on straight , gaming / downloading /streaming hd content at the same time etc

it gets warm ..yes but has a mega 6.3 with doual core kraits and adreno 305.

camera .

Ok when I first bougt the phone it come with mj1 and did an uptade of 30 megs .. and the camera still sucked at low light/ indoors , faces all brushed and hard time to focus with many focus miss.

but wtf this is xda! I saw some dude here that posted a Mj6 firmware flashed that thru odin .. and he camera is night and day from mj1

it is better than note 1 at low light now. It was not better with mj1

the camera is pretty fine.

speaker:

lol

the speaker is fine people you are all crazy man ! What! Is no boom box.. so its better than note 1 speaker way better than last year nexus 7 , it is better than MANY devices , just no as good as mega 6.3 or note 2 for instance .. but come on..

I think that are 3 main type of people in this thread:

hatters in denial

people new to android or just dumb, that don't know how to set up a device

or just outright crazy

note 3 n9005

running mj6

cf rooted

debloated using xda list

greenify

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
My first amd probably last remorse is knox ****ty counter.

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] heavylift:
Ho fk it man !

I bought my note 3 yesterday and root it with cf root.. anyway .. I wanna see who is going to say to my face that my new phone has no warranty because of a gimmick
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I honestly wish I'd waited a few weeks before purchasing my Note 3. Simply because today I installed the 4.3 DN3 Rom onto my Note 2. It's great to be back in the saddle and hearing what I consider usable external audio, for my purposes.

I am fond of my Note 3 and I'm missing it's vibrant display, but I'll adapt to that. I'm going to wait and see how the knox situation develops before rooting it, for now I'm powering it down and pitting it on the shelf..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
For the dude above:

You are wrong about the speaker and speaker on HTc one... Note 3 speaker have very shallow bass.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
You mean me? Mate I know all about the thin sound on the Note 3. It's harsh and way too thin. Yeah I know, anyone around here will tell you I know too lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
No sorry... Barry i think it's nickname... He was typing about speaker... My quotes does not work on Tapatalk.... Sorry again...

Sent from Apple iPad 4
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Ah yeah Barry , I should have realised, sorry too.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I've agreed multiple times that the output from the N3's speaker is thin and lacks detail. It bothers the hell out of some people and others could care less. For some uses volume is a bigger deal than detail and the volume of the N3's speaker is the same as Samsung's other phones. For conference calls less bass (and range) allows you to hear people more clearly and makes voices less pitchy than the N2. Same thing for voice guidance using navigation. And being able to lay the N3 on its back so you can use controls via the display to manage a call or app is terrific.

P.S. - A One owner just returned his UK Nexus 5 due to lack of speaker volume so people running from the N3's speaker should do some investigative work before hopping on the Nexus 5 bandwagon.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
It's cool Barry I hear ya. I'm happy now that I'm rocking my N2 again anyway. I do miss the screen on my N3 gotta say that again tho.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
That's because I see you are a sir!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] H0rn:
Oh yes indeed;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ryland Johnson:
At this price range I expect a high level of performance, to date I am very satisfied with that part.

Where I differ with Samsung is their use of materials chosen in the construction. Regardless of how marvellous this phone functions it feels like a cheap toy. I have no idea why this brand cannot grasp the concept of quality materials in a top end phone.

When I hold my Sony Xperia 10.1 tablet also the Xperia z mobile it brings a smile to my face, they feel so well made, and they are. The Note 3 feels likes its a child's toy! Destroys and totally detracts from how marvellous the software is and that is going to cost Samsung dearly.

The Galaxy Gear is a joke, the strap is an embarrassment to wear. Feels like something from my grandsons toy box. I cannot justify spending top end money for bottom end materials. Other brands have combined both why cant Samsung. Hell they feel like junk.

Sorry about the negative post I guess it comes form all this anticipation in waiting for this supposed class leading mobile. Very poor show by Samsung considering the hammering they have regarding their choice of materials utilised in the pat models. I will not be going to this brand again unless they change their attitude toward making the overall ownership experienceship a quality one.

Regards.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
$299 is not top end money for a watch. Of course my certified chronometer doesn't need to be recharged, nor does it do anything but tell me the time and date :) Hell of a lot better looking than Gear though!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
This has always been an interesting point of view. Everyone wants to feel that they are purchasing a device that has quality parts and a thought out design. I hear the very same arguments in a few forums I belong too. It's never ending.

So here are a few points as well.

1. What phone's build quality would you like the Galaxy line to mimic?

2. Also do you remember when Carbon fibre started replacing steel and aluminium? The very same things were said about carbon fibre and well you understand how that position is now viewed..

3. You expect a computer watch to have the same feel as Omega or a Breitling?? I do myself, however I am not willing to pay that price for a heavy computer watch, thats going to be upgraded in less than a year.. I wish the straps were of better quality myself, but its not something I am going to use just yet and I am sure I will figure something out when the times come.

4. I would say the Iphone 5S is a very well built phone. If you were to build the Galaxy N3 the same, the weight would be .75 to 1 times as heavy. Can you imagine if the GN3 weighed in 9-11 oz? People would lose their minds. You think the sky is falling now, wait until you you start reading about folks getting a hernia trying to get the phone out of their pockets or the phone failing drop test after drop test.. Just the overall whining and moaning about why the phone casing gets tweaked due to repeated drops and the battery cover won't stay on or the road rash the aluminum would have thus making it look "ugly".. The complaint threads would be endless.

5. I have seen the "much better built" Iphone and HTC One and what happens when it falls out of purse or off the top of a table and lands on the floor..

6. Have you ever picked up the supposedly class leading build HTC One? I have And every time I pick it up the first thing that runs through my mind is Ughhhhhh. This phone feels like its made out of the lowest class aluminum one could possibly purchase. It feels like the phone is made out of cheaply made ram chips material for your computer. Now the phone is very amazing, to me the material feels very "fake".

7. Personally I wish the phone was a little thicker (11mm) and a little heavier (7oz), maybe with a bigger battery. Then that would be perfect for in my opinion..

As always YMMV...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
What phones build quality would you like the Galaxy Line to mimic?

Also of you don't care about the back cover coming off then you don't care about replacing batteries and expanable storage?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xManMythLegend:
People think thinner and lighter comes magically. People want there own perception of "premium" to be satisfied and screw the laws of physics.

Moto X is mostly "cheap plastic" and apparently more durable then HTC one or the 5s.

It's crazy how your opinions don't matter to the physical world.

Plastic and aluminum are both cheap ass materials with nothing premium about them. Your phone screen is the only material of any genuine consequence.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DDRFAN:
Soft touch plastic is premium feeling when done right (look at HTC in the Windows Mobile days)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
A well-built aluminum casing is to much to ask for? It doesn't necessarily have to be covered in the stuff just enough make it look premium as opposed to cheap plastic finish. Even plastic can look good see the most recent moto x and last year's HTC one x.

It sometimes seems as Samsung just take whatever materials in the backyard and use that to design their phone. It's full of plastic and amoled I think.

You do know Battery and sd card can be removed without having to remove entire back cover. It has been done before I vaguely recall HTC doing something like that.

Also your comments are laughable re HTC one looking ugly. The phones been lauded for its design and premium look by most if not all reviewers.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] staryoshi:
Personally, I'll take a plastic body over an aluminum one every time. It's lighter and has some give when impacted, unlike a more rigid material. As far as I'm concerned that's preferable for a mobile device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Its the perception of product quality – as opposed to objective quality. Aluminium gives that perception of product quality and plastic on the other hand doesn't.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ryland Johnson:
Hi, Thank you for your reply.

So. lets play games for a while. You purchase a first class air ticket from X to Z, cost 10,000€ return. You go to board the plane and the staff inform you first class is full so go sit in the 1,000€ economy class seats, but don't worry if the plane crashes we are all toast regardless of where we sit.

You go purchase a car. Aston Martin one side of the road and Tata the other. The Tata sales rep' tries to sell you a Tata car but at Aston Martin prices. When you complain he tells you regardless of what its made from or the quality if you hit a wall it will bend!

WE have all paid for the most expensive Android mobile to date. Retail here, just for the phone, is near 850.00€.:p

If I pay Tata or economy air fair prices I expect that level of service and quality. Now we have paid first class air fare and Aston Martin prices yet have in fact received Tata quality? How can any consumer justify or even accept that?:confused:

Some posters are actually saying that the quality doesn't even matter as if we drop any phone it will break! of course it will same as any car will bend. I fail to see that point?

Other Android branded mobiles have managed to produce quality products that feel quality as they ARE quality. I mean, look at the Note 3, plastic metal, plastic leather and that hideous embossed plastic stitching? I ponder what MORE Samsung could possibly do to ensure the Note 3 looks and feels utterly cheap. I have just paid Aston Martin prices for the top mobile and received a Tata for my hard earned cash.

If nothing else I hope you can at least understand my point. Please do not defend yourself I am NOT attacking any poster I am criticising the build quality, or lack of, the Note 3 that we have all purchased. I am certain we deserve better. What is more it is not impossible to produce that quality feel through the appropriate use of decent materials.

I guess we can consider ourselves fortunate that they used Gorillas glass and not cling film!

Best wishes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
I recommend giving up trying to make analogies, you are not good at them.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
It's really plain and simple. If you don't like the build quality then don't buy, return for a refund, or sell your Note 3. Move on to something else.

I find it amusing that so many people will moan and groan over something that is obvious and have no control over. It's not like you buy the device, open the box, and then realize it's made of plastic.

For those that want metal, Apple and HTC await your purchase. Next week I will be enjoying my slamming non-premium plastic white Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] monkey10120:
Lol, I stopped reading this thread after seeing lack or custom roms. Dude most of America hasn't even got the phone yet let alone make a rom for it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xManMythLegend:
This is the Galaxy Note THREE... You combine the S series and you had SIX previous iterations.

Where on planet earth are you located where Note 3 being plastic is surprising information?

If I've experienced Tatas or Astons SIX times before at some point I need to be quiet and go to another brand.

Google Samsung build quality. They are aware of perception.

Edit: You're the same guy claiming that the bands for the Galaxy gear will fall apart at the first sign of water or sunlight and should be made of the same stuff as 1200$ watches.

I wonder what kind of gold plated diamond lettered vibranium keyboard you're typing these posts on.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
I have asked this a few times in different threads in regard to build quality of which existing phone's build quality would you like the GN3 to mimic and have yet to get any response which points to a particular phone!!

I can play the game as well.

1. Real carbon weave molded body.

2. Make the body "Naked Weave or Glossy"

3. Give me the best radio's (multiple)

4. The best wifi antennas

5. Also make the battery 5000mah

6. Sapphire coated gorilla glass.

7 6.3" size screen.

8. 128GB on board storage.

9. USB 3.0 transfer speed & wireless charging.

10. No Speakers!!!!!!!

11. No Speakers!!!!!!

12. Digital out via usb 3 or spdif

13. Make it affordable and world phone capable

14. Also let it have no manufacturing flaws and have all the software bug free on launch day.

15. I want 2048 pressure for the pen display.

16. And give it a super cool name. Samsung "Death Star" or "Samsung War Ewok" don't worry Sammy will pay Walt for the licensing fee's and not pass it on to us as valued customers.

17. And the back cover should have mosaic of a Rhino taking a crap on a certain fruit, made out of pictures dead rock stars nipples.

18. I want it to weigh in under 9 oz

19. Also want the screen to be nigh unbreakable.

I mean it can go on and on and on.....

If this magical phone that you keep wanting it to be like is out there, please let me know so I know what folks are referencing when talking about build quality etc..

That way, I can do the research and come to the same conclusion and "Rail" against "Sammy Corp" as well...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
It hasn't stopped people from complaining about the "lack" of it....