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[G2 General] aznmode:
My note 3 isnt laggy either. My G2 I can see it lag from time to time. I assume since you decided you're going with the G2, that you were just playing with the store units? Don't trust store units too much as a lot of people mess with them and mightve added other apps or did something to them. The real comparison will be if you have both device and set up exactly the same. Same apps, widgets, settings, etc. That's how I have both of mines set up. And there is more lag on the G2. Touchwiz doesn't equal lag. But I'm sure not everyone will agree and obviously not every will have the same setup as I do so they may experience opposite results. But t's all gonna depend on the hardware too and the software you throw at it. I think there is always the misconception of because a brand or software had previous issues then all future device or software will suffer the same faith. Not a good mindset when it comes to android IMO. If you can recall HTC sense was once very laggy and Samsung devices were known for not having proper updates.

As far as phones lasting longer, the home buttons has never been an issue on my s3, note 2, s4. If I'm not mistaken the home button hardware setup would be the same setup as any other volume bottons on other devices. I've never had a volume button fail on me either. Not saying it wont ever break. In regards to the G2 and durability, if you see the drop test of the g2 by Android Authority, after 1 drop the screen cracked. By the 3rd drop at the same distance, the phone completely wouldn't turn on. Based on that, most would assume the G2 is not a solid device. Then again that could be an isolated thing. Also knock knock features sometimes doesn't work for me and I have to tap 3x. Sometimes it would say my cheek is too close to the screen when I'm just trying to swipe to unlock and wont unlock so I have to launch one of the quick shortcuts, then it would unlock properly. I'm not saying Samsung is much better device but you can't say G2 will be better either. Once thing I do recommend for sure, is get warranty. You never know what could happen when you own either of these devices.
[G2 General] aznmode:
You're right! I had the brightness at full and when I checked auto brightness it got brighter by I would say 10%. You definitely see it changing. Cool deal. Thanks.
[G2 General] garywojdan81:
Like many on this thread, I'm still debating between the two devices. I've been to the local corporate store 4 times in the last 2 wks to play with the g2 but today was the first time I saw the note3. I like the direction Samsung is taking with design, but I wasn't impressed with build quality. The new black display unit has a gap between the edge of the screen and the aluminum bezel at the top that's wide enough to fit my thumbnail in and the white display unit home button was noticeably loose. I had one fcon the note3 with the my magazine app. Also noticed that the magazine app has social integration but omits facebook: weird. And according to a thread in the note3 forum, samsung support is stating that the note3 doesn't support push email apparently.

The g2 unit, on the other hand, seemed just as solid as it was the first day I saw it. Did notice some lag on it though when swiping through pages in the stock music player, but I kind of attributed it to the exorbitant uptime it's had. According to the battery screens its been on for almost 2wks w/o a reboot.

From now on, I think I'll make it a point to reboot the devices I'm going to compare in the store.
[G2 General] aznmode:
I was just wondering for those that are really torn. Why not get both devices and do your own personal tests to see which device you will like better after setting them up to your liking. There is $50 restocking fee for the devices but you will eventually just return one...well hopefully. That's what I did. Yourself will be the better judge than anyone else here. That's my take on it anyways.
[G2 General] garywojdan81:
Nice idea, but I don't have that kind of money laying around. Got a wife & 3 teenagers.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
G2 just arrived!!!!!!!!!!!! Gonna unbox it in a few min!!!
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Nice!! I remember this feeling a few weeks ago. Hope you're not stuck at work and had to wait for UPS like I did lol
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Thanks! No im off today, already rooted and installed TWRP!! Bout to flash cleanrom. The display on this thing is out of this world!
[G2 General] shook187:
Make sure you use "auto hide soft key" along with LMT launcher so you can enjoy every single inch of the screen without those ugly softkeys taking up space.
[G2 General] beezar:
Thanks for all of the opinions. I was all set to get the Note 3, waited months for it, then found out that very disappointingly Sprint did not make it a tri-band phone--therefore it won't use all the LTE bands that Sprint will have. Still upset over that.

But anyway, the G2 looks like a beast of a phone and opinions are close regarding the two phones, that it seems like a no-brainer to get the G2 if you have Sprint as it will be a tri-band phone.
[G2 General] shook187:
Why are Sprint people so hung up on tri-band? Sprints not planning to move into those new frequencies till after 2015.
[G2 General] martindar:
don't know if you have a problem with your speaker but the sound on mine is excellent good enough for what its designed for, thru headphones the audio is incredible graphic equaliser once set to your preferences depending on the quality of your headphones /ear buds is bloody greeaaat!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Lol thanks! They don't bother me much but thanks for the tip!

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I guess a" con" of the note 3 is that it makes everything else look small.
[G2 General] martindar:
why would you compare an lg og pro to a g2 the former is a much older phone here in the uk the lg pro has been out for ages and the g2 only two weeks or abit more the g2 is so much a better phone there really is no comparison get the g2 its far superior
[G2 General] sil0:
Congrats! You've been on the fence since page 2 of this thread, its nice to see you finally made a decision :P Dat display...:highfive:
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Yeah lol! Came from the Note 3 which I love. This is amazing as well. I can already say that you cannot go wrong with either phone. I will give a thorough comparison between both devices this weekend!
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Awesome, congrats man! Definitely let me know which one that you prefer. I will be getting my Note 3 tomorrow but I'm holding on to my G2 until I make a final decision.

I'm gonna make a small profit if I decide to sell the Note 3, so it is a risk free comparison for me.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Thanks! I already noticed a few things between both devices. Will give some impressions later today.
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Those are the best kind hehe
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
That would help a lot bro! I want to make my decision within the next couple days and your input would be much appreciated! :thumbup:
[G2 General] crashN2u:
That would be impossible since Samsung stole some of the ideas from LG. The Koreans have learned to steal from one another in harmony rather than sue each other. Samsung saves that for Apple.

you can do this on the G2 as well.
[G2 General] argoldst:
I currently have both phones and am very torn. To me it comes down to the following:

Why choose the note 3:

Although I don't use the s-pen, if you do it is a great feature.

MICROSD

Touchwiz is more polished then LG's ui but if you flash it doesn't matter

Why choose LG:

Better screen

For some reason I seem to get better battery life out of the G2

I am leaning just a little toward the G2 but just a bit. I like how it is a bit smaller with a nicer screen but the lack of a microsd is a HUGE minus to me. If it had that I would say G2 all the way (I like to have movies on my phone).

For the record, I have been having issues with the Note 3's wifi (get unstable connections). This seems to be happening to a good amount of people as a patch was released for the international version but not tmobile yet. It is very annoying right now.

I have enjoyed reading everyone's opinions and if you anyone has any question please ask.

I should add that I was using a Note 2 and loved it. I was getting a little tired of touchwiz which may be while I am leaning toward the lg (new is always nice).
[G2 General] barondebxl:
*Edited

Gonna give this some time.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Wow you move quick... no chance for stock Rom?

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I dont do stock roms lol. Unless there's no root for the device.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Not on stock Rom. The QSlide is very limited in what apps you can run in it. I've run maps and BeyondPod in split window mode on the N3.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] crashN2u:
ahhh, that's right. I totally forgot. Sorry about that.
[G2 General] aznmode:
Don't forget on n3:

YouTube, Chrome, Gmail, hangouts

3rd party app that works for me:

Facebook, picsart, root Explorer, whatsapp
[G2 General] shook187:
You are spot on about the lag and hiccups at certain situation. But me personally I kept the device and know once development picks up, lag will be a thing of the past.

I certainly had the option to get the note 3 but for me a 5.2 screen just works out better with my small hands.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I hear u. Actually as I am using the device now I really am enjoying it. But those stutter here and there are upsetting me. 2 things I cannot stand in my phone, crappy battery life and lag. Battery life is not a concern here and I'm sure performance will get better with development and updates. We'll see what happens. But I do love the form factor and knock on plus the back keys. This phone is amazing, just those few instances where it acts funny...
[G2 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
I just got my white one today, i really dont see the lag that you are talking about to be honest. I used it side by side with my One (the speed demon) and its just as fluid.

stock ROM btw
[G2 General] :
The g2 is a beautiful device! Hardware-wise I think it is better than the note 3!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I hear u buddy. I'm very particular with these things so I can notice it But it's not a big deal. I may stick with the G2 after all because I live the design and form factor, it's the absolute perfect size for me. And things are gonna improve too. Its time that I learn patience lol
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thank you so much for the info bro! I can see that we are very similar, so I will follow your posts closely.

I thought I was the only one who noticed the lag and delays on certain things. I have tried to look past it and not think about it, but I think it is what quietly motivated me to buy a Note 3 to try.

It's like you said, sometimes when exiting an app, the phone lags for a few seconds. But the biggest ones for me are opening the text messaging app, the app drawer (especially after a reboot) and scrolling through the app drawer, specifically the widgets and the settings menu.

The lag areas that bother me other than home screen once in a while are:

1. Text messaging app: When you click on the app icon, it can sometimes take a few seconds for the app to open. And when you click on a conversation, sometimes it takes a while to open as well. Unacceptable to me.

2. App drawer (apps): After a reboot especially, it will take a few seconds for it to open and the another second or two for the app icons to show up. Unacceptable again.

3. App drawer (widgets): Scrolling through widgets on this phone is awful. It's laggy and the widgets take time to redraw while scrolling. Once again unacceptable.

4. Settings menu: When you click the menu button and then settings or select settings from the app drawer, it takes a couple seconds to come up. And swiping through the settings screen isn't super smooth either. This one isn't as unacceptable but it drives me crazy.

When I first bought the G2 I never thought in a million years I would try a Note 3 since I swore off Samsung after my S4 debacle. But from my brief time playing with one and from people on here, it sounds like it doesn't lag like the S4.

So I will give it a shot but I'm not giving up on the G2 yet either. I will do extensive comparisons side by side this weekend.

Thanks again for you opinion!
[G2 General] shook187:
Could we stop saying "lags for a few seconds"

I have the device and I agree it does lag he and there but using the word "few seconds" really is an exaggeration.

When it does lag its definitely a second or under.
[G2 General] americasteam:
With my limited time with the G2, I 100% agree with the above. If you can deal with the size, the Note 3 can't be beat.

Like you, I was done with Samsung after the S4, but the Note won me back over. Happy testing!!!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
You're welcome! Yeah I can deal with the stutters but the most annoying one is in the text messaging like u stated in your first point. U click in the conversation and it takes a good second to open up like what the hell. I'm sure you'll love the Note 3, I think it's the best mobile device out there. But as much as I enjoy it's size for media consumption, it's a little annoying to shift the Phone in your hand and handling it at times. Plus I don't use the S pen and half of the features. So I'm gonna stick with the G2 now, I'm exhausted hopping from one phone to another lol. Love the G2 form factor, speed (despite the occasional stutters it flies), knockon and the rear buttons. Plus I believe android 4.3 is gonna take it to the next level like it did on the 2012 nexus 7. That's tablet became laggy and had bad battery life due to android 4.2.2 but once it got updated to 4.3 it was if it was just new. Cheers!
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Honestly I never noticed these "lags". I see what you mean on some of them but really pretty minor. Now a lag that bothers me is in Tapatalk when scrolling through posts with images the lag can be pretty bad, but is the N3 any better?

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Every android device lags in tapatalk
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ok, a few may be a little overboard, but it's definitely more than one for me. So I will upgrade my statement to a couple.

Thanks man! I will definitely do a lot of testing because this G2 is gonna be hard to beat even with my lag statements.

I'm honestly not sure about Tapatalk.

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Oh wow, so you're gonna keep the G2? Interesting.

I think two things and two things only will make me keep the Note 3.

1. If I can deal with the size.

2. If it indeed doesn't lag like people have been saying.

If those two things ring true, I'm gonna keep it. The other things would be a wash to me and the Note 3 will hold its value much better.

The G2's value is already dropping like a rock. The last one sold on Swappa for $480 and one sold here locally in San Diego recently on Craigslist for $390. And there are other ones on Craigslist for $450 or below right now. At the rate I change phones, that doesn't bode well for me. I need phones that hold value to keep flipping them.

I know that's a weird reason, but it's a personal one for me that I'm factoring in.

Good luck man, and keep us updated!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Point 2, u have nothing to worry about. There's not a HINT of lag anywhere. Actually I'll take that back, the my magazine thing lags but who uses that crap? Everything else is buttery smooth, even when you run 5 apps at the sane time on the screen it does not skip a beat. This Note has so much power it's insane.
[G2 General] shook187:
So you basically only limiting yourself to Samsung or iPhones with this strategy because those are the only phone that hold somewhat value.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well, that was definitely what I was getting at. I've had other brands sprinkled in over the past couple years, but my main drivers have been the S3, Note 2 and S4.

I will not go to an iPhone, so yes I am limiting myself to Samsung. But I won't limit myself if I don't like the Note 3. I will never choose crappy performance over money which is why I dumped my S4 for the G2.

But since I've been hearing that Samsung got rid of lag in the Note 3, I'm gonna give it a shot.
[G2 General] americasteam:
I'm right there with you on this. I'm hoping to keep the Note for a while, but I've been flipping phones like nobody's business over the last 2 years. Really sucks when you're stuck with one that has low resale value. : (
[G2 General] shook187:
Which is why I joined T-Mobile's jump and the G2 was the perfect candidate.

No money down after all payments I'll make, I'll probably be in the phone for $200 which is probably what I normally lose on a phone that does have good resale value.

Its a win win situation with me and the G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
This G2 charges so freaking fast its crazy.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Isn't the Note 3 like that as well? At least that's what I've read.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Not like this. Note 3 would take about 2h to charge from 10% to 100%, plugged in ny G2 at 11 pm with 12%, its now 12:15 am and its at 96%. That's incredible.

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It is now fully charged. INSANE!
[G2 General] pintopunk:
How is the signal strength on both? I constantly go to middle of nowhere so having strong antenna in the phone is important to me.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Both are just fine.
[G2 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I notice some people give critics to G2 having lags or stutters. My G2 also have those lags and stutters although very minimum. In my opinion, these issues is due to android 4.2.2 is not yet optimized. I come from Nexus 4 and with 4.2.2 there are so many bugs that is finally fixed and optimized in 4.3 update.

I really look forward to getting software update in near future because given the hardware these issues should never been there.
[G2 General] argoldst:
You may be right. However, the big question is how good is LG with updates? From what I have heard, they are horrible. Perhaps another thing to consider... Has anyone heard if they plan on updating or a date?
[G2 General] Noam23:
While it's true that with past devices LG's support was weak, but maybe because they knew they had inferior devices, and hence concentrated more on getting it right on the next device, instead on past devices.

Saying this, one has to be blind not to see that the G2 is a game changer for LG. I've never seen a cellular device being advertised harder than the G2. LG know they have a winner here. The G2 to LG is what the S2 was to Samsung. Before the S2 Samsung was a pretty bad company when it came to android smartphones (the original S was a horrid device). LG knows that they got it right this time, and they know that if support won't be spectacular this time, people will stay away from the G3. My bet is that LG will release KitKat for the G2, sooner than Samsung will release KitKat for the S4.
[G2 General] uppon2:
I compared them because one has better internals and one has a larger display. This was a hard decision for me to make. I ended up getting the G Pro but I am getting the worst network reception I have ever seen. My country and carrier supports the same LTE/3G/2G band but for some reason I only have Edge unless I am in the City! Either the phone is faulty or it has very bad signal
[G2 General] ShyamSasi:
I was almost ready to buy G2 until I came across this thread. Lag concerns me. I'm having a hard time choosing between Z1 & G2. But I can't live with Micro lags or overheat after 10 mins of Game play. I saw a thread when you can eliminate the lag by disabling something from the service menu. So is this after disabling it you still have lag? If this is the case I might go with the Z1. Note 3 is not an option since there is no S800 version in our country.
[G2 General] jntdroid:
I, personally, am concerned as a Verizon user about updates for the G2. Other carriers will probably be ok. But the G2 is getting zero love from Verizon already, which makes me think they'll do the same when LG needs to push updates... :/
[G2 General] americasteam:
HTC One was running 4.2.2 at launch and was very smooth.
[G2 General] carakamuda:
Two things to note about Z1: it is larger and more expensive than G2.

The lag on my G2 is very minimal but that's maybe because I got the international version. You have to experience the G2 by yourself then make an informed decision. Sometimes I wonder why I can't replicate the problem that some of these gents are having.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
My Note 3 is being delivered this morning and I will have a big opinion between the two by this weekend.

As someone who doesn't keep my phones very long, the current value of the G2 is really scaring me. I just saw a guy locally on Craigslist drop his price from $500 to $460 within the same day. And there are others under $450.

This is obviously a personal issue and choice for me, but if the Note 3 is decent enough, I will be dumping my G2. As it is I already paid $575 plus tax for it which I understand is my fault.

I just can't let it drop in value this fast. Worst case scenario is I sell it, use the Note 3 for a bit and buy a G2 back at a much lower price. I got my Note 3 for a low enough price that I could use it for a few months and still make profit or break even (I think) when I sell it.

But if the Note 3 lags just as much or more than my G2 or if I can't handle the size, then I'm staying with my G2, selling my Note 3 for a profit and just set the profit aside to compensate for how much I will lose when I eventually sell my G2 someday.
[G2 General] shook187:
Buying and selling and trying to flip phones is a losing proposition regardless, especially those phones on Verizon.

If you brought a phone for $575 regardless the manufacturer's name what price could you actually get for it once its considered use? You're obviously going to lose.
[G2 General] jntdroid:
Buying and selling in the "secondary" market with phones is 80% about market demand, 20% about true phone value. Market demand includes factors such as how new a phone is, region, and then the pure demand part. That's one reason why iPhones tend to hold their value - there's always a segment of the population out there wanting to get an iPhone.

The G2 is simply not in high demand, compared to others anyway. If you're smart about it and take good care of it and don't wait too long, you should be able to get close to breaking even on that Note 3, if not a bit more if you're a bit lucky. But unless it's pure brand new in box, you probably won't get much more than that. Keep an eye on Swappa and Ebay as well, not just Craigslist, for pricing trends.
[G2 General] argoldst:
I have both phones and decided to do a little comparison between the N3 and G2. I have not really noticed any lag on the G2 but have heard people say it has it and one example was when opening messages. So I did several side by side comparisons of opening the message app and then opening a specific chat.

Without a doubt the N3 was faster. It opened both quicker than the G2 did. However, posts that it takes "seconds" is a complete exaggeration. The G2 takes about 1/4 to 1/2 a second longer to open than the N3.

Lag of any kind sucks but please don't post exaggerations on a forum where your comments may actually sway someone to a phone (especially if the they are not true).

As for me, still very torn between the two phones. Will have to decide soon though.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I clicked my text messaging icon last night to test it again and I counted 3 seconds to myself before any of my conversations showed up on the screen. The app itself opened after a second or so, but the conversations showing up took another second or two.

So in my personal case, it's not an exaggeration. This happens often, especially when the messaging app falls out of memory. This happened before I rooted, after factory resets, etc.

I can take and post a video if people need video proof for some odd reason, but I gain absolutely nothing by lying about it.

Taking 3 seconds to open a common app is completely unacceptable to me on a phone with these specs.