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[Galaxy S 4 General] spamtrash:
I fully agree with your statement, but you missed some words... below is corrected version :rolleyes:

Somehow it has a good purpose for Samsung and it also somehow prevents samsung phones from depreciating faster because of the imported and not locally released phones, what Samsung hopes to provide them higher benefits, better market control and is restricting the users freedom of choice on the world market..

The benefits for the users: ....eeee..... eeeee.....eeeee none, I think?
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
I think the resale value will be beneficial to us users...

Just my cents, I hope it plays that way.
[Galaxy S 4 General] spamtrash:
in what aspect? That the users would be unable to buy cheaper item elsewhere? simplest example:

I live in UK, but I'm frequent traveler to Russia. My friend there asked me to bring him the Unit, which will be available in Russia later.

I cannot deliver him brand new item, as I have to unpack it, insert UK sim card, activate using my Google account etc.

GREAT benefit, really.

I think that Samsung could improve their "benefits for the users" even more, for example: linking the phone with the single Google account, to prevent the sale/purchase of used phones. how do you think? Using your way of thinking, it will be absolute user benefit, wouldn't it be? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] htcplussony:
While its not that bad based on Samsung's statement but from the note3 thread, putting in a local sim in a unlocked note 3 does not cancel the regional lock.

So someone screwed up somewhere.

And I prefer uk phones as the local Canadian units come with carrier branded crap ware.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ultramag69:
This is still a slippery slope.

Where does some company come off telling me where I can use a product I bought. They might as well have put the 240/110 volt charger in the box depending on where you live so no-one should steal your phone if the voltage isn't compatable.

This is simply a cash grab by Samsung to be able to set the price in different countries.

Next will come different pricing for apps in the samsung store and you will need to buy only from there as any apps on the google play store, not being supported on the Samsung store, will not actually run on your Samsung device...

Way to piss off your customers....

Might as well change your name to Apple II now instead of trying to pull the wool over our eyes....
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Lol...

Im not going to argue with you..

Do you think you are getting an unpacked unit when you buy anywhere?

Most of phones already opened in country of origin and from the destination and sealed it again.

Sometimes they are installing countrys firmware version/languages etc.

Seriously?

Linking 1 google account is not possible and why would you like to prevent people from selling and buying used phones. Lol... Its our choice.

Btw its just my opinion and everyone is entited to its own.

:p:p:p
[Galaxy S 4 General] difyel:
Rationally speaking Samsung did this move not because it’s trying to do what’s good for the consumer, but it did because they are getting greedier. With all due respect saying that this will somehow prevents Samsung phones from

is actually inaccurate.

The price of the phone should be universal and it shouldn’t vary between a region and another in first place. It’s not because a region has a more purchasing power than another that this means we have to charge them a higher rate. This goes against the principle of free market, the price of an item is set by the law of supply and demand.

Another point that could be raised against this argument, is let’s take a look at apple. An iPhone has more reselling value then a Samsung phone, despite the fact that apple make only one universal version of its iPhone, and when it’s unlocked it’s actually unlocked to all markets.

I also agree with what you have said here :

So this means that this move is only a pain to the ass of honest consumers who till now are facing difficulties getting their device unlocked because in all honesty I do suspect Samsung of foul play .

For what it’s worth, I don’t care about Samsung, I do care about android and what it symbolizes. Samsung has turned to be a far greater pain in the ass than Apple , actually let me rephrase that and say I do prefer Apple over Samsung. Luckily for us the android experience could be brought out by a multitude of device. So till Samsung gets its act together, stop treating its consumers as guinea pig , stop forcing new unwanted limitations down our throats I will be moving to another android device like the nexus series which lived up to my expectations till now .
[Galaxy S 4 General] rl421403:
Actually it's the main issue and I think that is the reason why Samsung is imposing this region lock. They cannot fix same price for all regions because of currency rates and purchasing power of residents.

For example, I am from INDIA and I purchased a S4 in April for 41,500 Rs (equivalent to $750 USD at that time, a US dollar was 53 INR at that time) but in last couple of months our currency rate has declined so much and it was near 69 INR for a USD which made newer phones alot pricier then previous flagship devices. So based on this we should have Note 3 for nearly 60,000 INR which is too much and for that price nobody will buy it here. So they had to sell it for a lot cheaper compared to US markets.

I believe that's why they are imposing this lock so people should not import flagship devices from low cost markets.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rgshah3:
The Asian variant of note 3 isn't going to have the region lock
[Galaxy S 4 General] rl421403:
I am not saying it has but I am pointing out the reason with an example.

Also, if some devices are region locked, then there are good chances in future this might happen on all devices.
[Galaxy S 4 General] razno:
in Europe it's usually higher price in countries with poorer buying prices. That why a lot of people buy from black market....
[Galaxy S 4 General] bluefa1con:
kind of regret getting the s4 now, its a great device

only got it because it was qualcom and had a google edition so i suppose it was developer friendly

but the knox and regional lock makes me wish i waited for the G2 or the Z1

although i can still consider samsung's situation

here in my country there are 2 types of gs4 sold, one that is officially sent by samsung and one that is imported from other countries

now the one that is imported from other countries are about 80$ cheaper then the offical ones

resulting people getting the imported one rather than the one samsung shipped
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
As far as I know samsung units made before july 2013 is not included.

Its not a big issue too having samsung already made a statement about this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] 3473:
Why do all companies do this kind of thing when they start to become successful? Are the executives of these companies greedy or just plain stupid?

I don't travel out of my country much (if it all), but I will refuse to buy a Samsung device in the future if they keep this up.

The only way I'd accept it is if they reduced the price of sim free models, since they're not exactly sim free any more!

Honestly Samsung, things were going great for you. Yet out of the blue you do something ridiculous like this. Idiots. Almost as silly as the S4 zoom (or whatever that monstrosity was called).

And to think, I had money saved up for the Note 3 and Note 10.1 (2014). That money will be spent on competitor products now.

I don't like it when companies get a bit of success and then start pushing their luck like this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] brunomcf:
Hardware or software lock?

Is it possible to overpass this lock or not at all?
[Galaxy S 4 General] damador:
seems that its software lock and should be fixed just like yellow triangle and csc locks. for average customer it isnt a problem. similar lock exist in gayphones its incompatible with some carriers in many countries. Seriously buyers will go to xda root it and remove all lock and bloatware like knox or this new locks. i think that not only samsung will lock their handsets in near future ....
[Galaxy S 4 General] tobby51:
if my phone is made before July 2013, bought factory free australia, and if i ll put german firmware and updated with knox and decided to restore it manufactures will put the regional block?

Enviado desde mi GT-I9505 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 General] PanNet:
Probably it does not matter when mobile has been made. I have Galaxy s4 from Australia and after update (OTA) software I can not use my European SIM. Before update everything worked fine.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tobby51:
Which firmware have u got? I got BMG4 and my chilean sim is working yet. could be the solution, not to have the problem of regional lock, putting a chilean firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 General] difyel:
imho a mass lawsuit should be brought against Samsung in the states this will bring an end to our misery dealing with whimsical decisions.

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 General] rl421403:
Okay. More news on this matter. Samsung is kind of not completely truthful about this. It appears phones are region locked and cannot be used outside a particular region oppose to what Samsung said that you can use phones worldwide once activated with local sim. Lots of people facing issues with region lock and are not able to use their phone.

Also, it appears that region lock will be added to S3, S4 and Note 2 on Android 4.4 update. So be careful.

Some people are thrilled that their Note 3 are not region locked like Asian phones. But it's just matter of time.

Read more here.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46059380&postcount=678

and

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46073329&postcount=718
[Galaxy S 4 General] negrobembon:
And it keeps getting worse, well seems like next year im going Sony
[Galaxy S 4 General] spamtrash:
Exactly. you can believe or not, but I can give you few examples:

CASE1: I'm ordering my phone via Carphone Warehouse, Phones4u etc - I have sealed phone without bloatware etc., - I'm happy user.

CASE 2: I'm buying via O2, or TESCO or ARGOS, I'm obtaining the opened phone (it's really funny when I see the O2 store guy trying to "I'll open it for you, to place the battery and to show you how to turn it on" what each time meets from me: "thank you, I'd prefer the phone which your girl did not used as vibrator the day before").

In case 1, as I said, I can do with the phone whatever I want, as it is brand new, unused, unopened (see eBay T&Cs for detail explanation).

Case 2 means that I have the phone in opened box. It could be used by the store staff (like in UK's TESCO, so called "brand new" Samsung 10.1 with fingerprints on the screen which would require CIF to clean it)m refurbished unit, returned phone from another customer (who could previously travel to Kongo and catch ebola virus) etc.

The real matter is: no one shall pay for the NEW phone, when it was previously unpacked, opened and dealt with.

Of course, it is the analogy, as always: if I'll buy a brand new car, and if I'd like to sell it just leaving the dealer's garage, it loses approximately 30% on its value. Therefore, of course, but "regionally locked" phones shall be sold with same discount.

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Hmmm... let's be honest:

I HAVE BOUGHT the unlocked phone, being sure that I will be able to use it worldwide. I have paid for it. ANY restriction of use placed AFTER the purchase changes the way in which the phone can be used by limiting its functionality.

Therefore, independently from the unit's condition (it can look now like taken directly from the Anaconda's ass) - if such update would occur automatically without the clear warning and clear consent from my side for such decrease of functionality - it would entitle me to immediate return the phone to the store for full refund.

In other words: it would be ILLEGAL action and should be easy to clear with the use of software tool, called: the solicitor.;)

Of course: Note3, which is sold with the clear label on the box stating that you're buying the regional locked product is completely different story
[Galaxy S 4 General] PanNet:
In theory you are right but in practice NO. I am an example. My s4 properly activated in Australia does not work in Europe.

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Upgrade by OTA software you will see what happens?
[Galaxy S 4 General] silentscreamer:
Use Chainfire's App and stay RegioLock free forever:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] dratsablive:
I live in the States, and got my I9505G through Google. I had no sticker on the box that mentioned region locking.
[Galaxy S 4 General] leeomendes:
and that's all :) I assume that most of the people here on xda have a rooted phone, so this won't be a problem for any of us :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] amanjits:
Sammie got lost ... gonna fall on its face:cyclops:
[Galaxy S 4 General] MaKTaiL:
We are not talking about i9505g.....
[Galaxy S 4 General] dratsablive:
You had an option to buy from Google and get the Unlocked I9505G which would work in most markets.
[Galaxy S 4 General] faouz:
Hello

I also have the blocklist in custom.xml

I use wanam 1.4

My question is can i use the phone outside europe,

with a local simcard for example morocco because i am using a custom rom or not?
[Galaxy S 4 General] stefan063:
You can use your phone everywhere in the world. This is how it goes:

If you buy Note 3 as example in Serbia and put Non-EU or EEA Sim it will work everywhere... But if you buy that same N3 and put UK O2 sim card it wont!!! Simple as that!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] htcplussony:
Not for those that got the S4 before the I9505G announcement.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Firstly what is swap, you should know about it before

you go further

.

LEGAL WARNING-Read This before you proceed

Steps to enable swap:-

1. Open any file explorer(I prefer root explorer) and create a folder and name

it swap

2. Browse to that folder and create a file named swap

3. Open terminal Emulator and type the code busybox

mkswap /sdcard/swap/swap xxxxxx

(xxxxxx is the amount in KB, eg:- 383456 = 378MB),

and this process will take time.)

4. Now we will activate the swap and to activate it type

in terminal busybox swapon /sdcard/swap/swap

5. The last step is to turn on swappiness and to do it

we write echo 100 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness in

terminal

And now you are done to check the working of swap

type busybox free in terminal emulator.

NOTE-Last two steps are needed to be done after every boot

so it is better to make a script which can be started

from script manager......... and here is a script ready for this Swap.sh

REGARDS :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Reserved

Feedback and WARNING by users

New Method Using SWAPPER2.apk

Here the step :

go to settings -> swap place (put correct directory for

example: /sdcard/swap 128 ) bold text depend on your

swap name!

Tick "Safe Unmount" and "Safe Remount", u dont need

to turn off or turn on again before and after sharing sd

IMPORTANT!! :

go to Advanced preferences -> untick "Recreate

swap file" and "Reformat swap" MUST!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
you can simply use the app swapper for doing this
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
ok the info is good,but i hope you know about sdcard lifedecrease by using swap.it kills sdcards.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Sir,hav a look at OP,it says without SD Card paritition.....no use of sd card in this.....
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
oops my fail,anyway,have you fell a better performance?you didnt need so complex settings,just use System Control from Juwe11.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
no use of sd card ??? then where the file swap is created
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
internal system patition
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
3. Open terminal Emulator and type the code busybox

mkswap /sdcard/swap/swap xxxxxx

I don't think so

and it is galaxy y section sir we don't have internal memory to install enough apps so where to create a swap folder
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
apps???????its about ram,dude:confused:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
I meant no need of sd partition........why don't you read the whole post again before posting smthng
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
yes I know sir but you said the swap folder is in internel memory so iwas just pointing out that we only have 190mb data folder and no internel sd partotion

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yes I know friend but partition or not you have to create a swap folder in sd card which serves as a virtual partition
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
bro apps are not the same like ram,google for more infos.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Or do a xda search
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
yes I know sir but iam not saying about the apps ok lets make it clear by using your method we create a folder named swap in the sdcard and it serves as a virtual rom right??

and I was only saying that as caliban666 said continuos read and write in sdcard will decrease its life whether it is a partion or a folder
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Yes,u r rite.....btw if u tried it u can post some ss here :)

I'll add to the OP
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
sorry about ss friend anyway thanks for the post
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
i dont know but has anyone read this"tweak"?it creates a swap part on sd,otherwise its not fully working.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Did you tried it sir?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
no i didnt need to use it,all what i need to know i see,the other thing is swap is buggy for some roms and kernel(my expierence and opinion).
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
For that we have to wait for someone to test it....and post bugs(if any)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] thewarlord:
Dude!! Swap decrease sd card life & speed!! Its true !!

& as I know swap partition or swap both decrease sd card life!!

(q) how swap decrease sd card life??

Answer. Sd card life based on it read and write amount !! Every sd card have a limit to read and write !! As my Samsung 16 gb class 10 have 100000 cycle of write!!

While using swap file ur sd card have to randomly write the application data which decrease the life of sd card dramatically!!

So it doesn't depend u r using swap partition or swap both decrease the sd card life!!

So, I suggest u to add warning in this thread!! So that people understand the limitation!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
+1,thats the answer i want to see,thx
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
+1 that's what I intended to say earlier but it got confused
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] thewarlord:
No confusion dude!!

Watch ur ram in task manager !! Its always in motion (increase & decrease) I think u understand that life of sd card depend on writeing amount !! Ok

If u create a swap in sd card or swap partition !! Its always write on sd card I think u r understanding my feelings!! :D so, It decrease the sd card life!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] sangalaxy:
yes I know that friend
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Thanks dude,I was in a dilema...whether to it decreases sd life or not....u made it clear...thanks a ton....and pressed it tooo.... :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] -CALIBAN666-:
as i say brother;)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 General] DC07:
Yea bro......u we're rite..... :)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
Hi all got a question .i found a kernel for cm 10.2 based roms and I'm just wondering would this be compatable with pac man rom as it has part cm 10.2 ? Don't want to be bricked thats all thanx
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] santos.jeff:
Yes dude it is compatible,but I'm using carbon rom right now with CM 10.2 kernel by hobod.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
thanx man just flashed its awsome looks and now performance
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] !crazy:
What performance? I find stock CM kernel to give the fastest and smoothest animations, desktop transitions, and scrolling. Haven't done any benchmarks or compared how do they feel when play video games.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
I simply mean i can now overclock and overvolt cpu and gpu .cm kernel is great but it doesn't have the same control.it benchmark score is the same as stock on quadrant 5460 with boeffla 7654
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] !crazy:
With stock CM kernel one can OC GPU.

I new that. But who cares about benchmarks? OK maybe some video games will run more smoothly, but I doubt. And as I said, on my phone at least, GUI feels smoother and more responsive on stock CM kernel. Not to mention that it is more stable. With Boeffla kernel it is a matter of time before pegasuq governor starts behaving strange, and sound gets heavy distortion. That is on my device.

I presume Boefla runs better on i9300. It is only ported to our device.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
I dont do benchnarks and it is my personal prefrence for a kernel .i never said cm was a bad kernel its great i just prefer boeffla it works for me and has boeffla sound
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
Ps im on pac rom and i cant adjust gpu and its a cm kernel might be quite different to yours
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] !crazy:
What I wrote is for me and my device. Of course in your case it can be different.

You can change GPU settings of CM kernel with Trickster Mod app.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DJ aliasz3d:
Thanx try it now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] demoncamber:
So has anyone overclocked their t989 passed 1.5GHz and noticed any major battery drain? I was wondering how far you can really go up, max being 1.89GHz and at what point do you really notice abnormal battery drain?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] quiltfish:
I know that most people here already own a Jasjar or MDA and those who don't would much prefer the metalic finish of the SPV or the black XDA when they come out, but for those of you who are after the gameboy DS lookalike version, the VPA a word of warning, I have just gotten off of the phone with Vodafone as I was planning on getting my number transfer code... suddenly theyt start asking questions about why I want to transfer over to another network (no big surprise there) when I explained about the XDA Exec she slammed me on hold and sent me to her supervisor. She went through the options and hit me with some nasty figures...

First off its unlikely they will be getting it in before December

and far more scarily

Even if you sign up for an 18 month tarif at £99 a month (anytime 3000)they won't be selling it for less than £250 for either a new contract or upgrade, it would cost even more on the lower ones.

Although it is still up in the air as to weither they will be stocking the white device at the moment or rebadging the Qtek 9000 when they get their hands on it

something tells me voda won't be shifting many handsets