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[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
the emperor's new clothes: cash

Got it! Cash does seem to be the modern vindicator of how business is conducted. Wow... that's a huge war chest.

Yes, megalomania, greed, disrespect for the law and an arrogant disregard for consumers... 'someone' high up in Samsung's senior officers has it out for parallel-market wholesalers undercutting his price controls, and he's used to getting his way.

Lee Kun-hee, the son of Samsung's founder, took a lower profile -- for 2 years -- following convictions for tax evasion and the bribery of Korean legislators, prosecutors and judges. But he never stepped down as the head of one of Korea's most notorious chaebols, which owns the majority share of Samsung Group, and for the last few years he's been officially back at Samsung as CEO of Samsung Electronics.

His hand is evident in what the company's been caught at recently... rigging benchmark tests, buying positive ratings for online products, violating (ironically) copyright laws and now region locking, which I'm convinced will eventually be subjected to injunctions in courts around the world. Not only are they disrupting competition & free trade with this policy, they're using the public airwaves to accomplish it.

Makes one wonder what future crimes & unethical behaviors we're subsidizing each time we give Samsung a bit of our cash.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I trust Samsung more than I do Google. So much of Google's operations are "black box" know one knows what's going on behind the scenes and what they might do with their trove of assimilated data and their T&C are so vague and buried and the ability for us to control what's sent where so complex that the opportunity for misuse or profiteering becomes worrisome. Samsung's greed is what to a certain extent will keep them "pure." If, with their dominant market position, they are found to be doing something nefarious without their customer's consent the loss of stock value and sales from the "expose" would be exponentially higher than the crumbs of profit Region Lock or denying some warranty claims because of KNOX would net them.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
Yes, that should have worked, h2s, according to Samsung's official position, even down to making the 5 minutes of voice occur in-region. You must be hugely disappointed that your careful following of procedure didn't work.

People are erring in thinking that the region lock is a singular phenomenon. The First Gen region lock appears to have quite a bit of variability across phones... I'm thinking that has in part to do with the reliability of some registration process whereby the phone links with a Samsung server that ultimately releases the lock. The recent Second Gen region lock, that purports to use the unlocking process you followed, supposedly overcomes this problem.

We might be able to determine if you have Region Lock #1 or Region Lock #2.

Would you tell us what build number your firmware has and how many country MCC codes your customer.xml file has? (Let us know if you need help finding that.) Have you or your friend installed an OTA update since purchase? Are you comfortable sharing (or PM'ing me) the country of your local sim?

Sorry you're having this problem, man.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
a crowded hall of shame...

+1.

(I think the real debate about Google+ isn't about the public accountability of how end-users post on the Play Store or YouTube... it's about Google's cryptic T&C's and the mystery of what they do with the data they collect on us.

What Google's doing is more insidious, due to the invasion of privacy, certainly no less arrogant than Samsung and probably more secretive. While, to their credit, I haven't seen Google flaunt the law like Samsung, my guess is that they're equally driven by the pursuit of wealth, power & control... and winning.)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] foxmeister:
To be fair, despite what a corporation may say about it's mission statement, ultimately, they are all driven by the same thing which is maximising shareholder value!

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note 3 General] h2s:
I didn't want to fiddle with the phones after that. We are returning the phones (luckily someone is traveling there). Samsung must be clear on the activation process whether it is a call or a call while the phone is connected to the Internet. I think for our case, our friend made the calls without being connected to the Internet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
smart phone, smarter customer...

I think that's the smartest option, h2s.

It's far better to have a phone that you know works than to know why the one you have doesn't.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
how far will they go?

Good point, foxmeister. Would you agree, though, that corporations can differ in how ruthless they're willing to be in pursuit of that goal?

Before this region-lock business, all I knew about Samsung is what I knew of their products and saw in their ads... plus a few stories about how difficult they can be to work for. I had no idea how willing they are to break the law and how they look at customers as so many pawns in the money game.

Reading up on the history of the chaebols' relationships with the South Korean government, I understand better how Samsung has come to look at government and its laws as vehicles for corporate profitability & expansion and not as structures to protect the interests of the electorate.

A commitment to bringing value to customers and a respect for the value of employees may be alien concepts to Samsung, but they can, I believe, be important components of a viable strategy for improving market position and maximizing the value of a share.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
You lose. ;)

The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has taken notes from 10 million wallets. Samsung has announced it has sold 10 million Note 3 phablets in just 60 days -- clearly the new faux-leather styling is a hit.

The original Note was a surprise hit in 2011, as phone fans went nuts for the huge screen and S Pen stylus. Both the original Note and its follow-up, the Note 2, also sold more than 10 million, but the Note 3 has outstripped both in its rate of sales.​

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57615083-94/samsung-galaxy-note-3-joins-10-million-club/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
^^

Note 3 has dropped $150 here suddenly and this simply means moreee n more sales.

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] layercake87:
i'm really fine with this phone. a huge step from my galaxy s2 but there are some complains:

-ghosting at low brigthness :(

- feeling like i bought an apple product because of knox. wtf, the whole android philosophy is open source and yet i'm not allowed to root my device and use custom roms

-****load of bloatware on stock rom

anything else is yet to discover ^^
[Galaxy Note 3 General] burnin:
Just bought a black Note 3 SM-N9005 and for now my only problems are:

- poor battery life

- poor gameplay, especialy on Real Racing 3

- poor wi-fi and data network
[Galaxy Note 3 General] thelostlegend:
poor game play really?? this is one of the best devices for gaming... real racing is plays amazing in mine and so are other games.. no problems here
[Galaxy Note 3 General] burnin:
I only play Real Racing 3... after 2/3 minutes of play i exprienced heavy frame drop.

I read something about CPU and GPU trothling, anyone knows something about it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] thelostlegend:
I've played in both versions and there's no problem with both.. this may sound stupid but still.. check if power saver was on that restricts cpu..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Is this thread still alive?

Anyway, the Note 2 sold more than 30 million so far ...

Do your research properly :silly:

http://bgr.com/2013/09/30/galaxy-note-sales-40-million-lifetime/

Actually 35 million ...that article is already out-of-date

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] dodgebizkit:
The battery is the only bad thing - I had heard that it can go for a day or two without a charge, like the note 2 could.

it gets worse battery life than an iphone 4s, probably on par with a nexus 4.

I wouldn't be able to see why anyone would call this a "remorse" though, unless they go more than 5 hours away from a plug socket, but it is a disappointment to an otherwise perfect device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dr.m0x:
Weird, I get superb battery life. Screen time seems slightly lower than the Note 2 but standby time is much better.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FedUpx2:
Stock rom and awesome battery life so far. Model is N-900W8......came from a Galaxy S3 so I like the familiarity of the OS and the layout of the phone. The pen feature is quite useful for what I do and I am still to learn more about what it can do. No remorse here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
Thanks for the link, BetoNL. The Note 2 has been hugely successful!

In BarryH_GEG's defense, 35 million is "more than 10 million." I think his point was not to specify how many total units the Note 2 has sold to date, but to say that the Note 3 hit the 10M-unit mark earlier than the Note 2 did.

That's phenomenal... 10,000,000 units in 2 months? Wow!

Please correct my figures, anyone, if you have more accurate numbers. I see a full-price N3 available at Target for $999.99 and the same model discounted at negrielectronics.com for $669.50... for a per-unit discount of $339.49.

I think it's safe to assume that Samsung's per-unit costs are below $669.50, that is, Samsung still makes a profit on every unit Negri sells. But the $339.49 per-unit price difference -- between the full-price market where Samsung controls the price and the parallel market where prices are controlled by freemarket forces -- represents a significant potential for increasing Samsung's profit.

After all, $339.49 times 10,000,000 is $3,394,900 or about $1.7M per month. This figure -- added to the other Galaxy devices Samsung intends to region lock -- makes Samsung's motivation behind region locking all the more clear.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] burnin:
Yes. No power saver turn on. Many times i see lots of frame drops.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] qunungnauraq:
I have read in several forums that the Snapdragon Note 3 throttles down when it overheats, whereas the Exynos Note 3 doesn't seem to have that problem.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chkenwing:
My only main gripe is 16GB internal memory.

Unfortunately, for stupid reasons unknown, Samsung decided to release only the 16GB version in Hong Kong, which is utter BS considering HK has a stupidly ridiculously large market for phablets.

I am bothered by it, but my usage is still pretty low (I have about 8GBs of space left with a 64GB memory card). I'm just waiting for a root that doesn't trip knox so I can put my apps onto the memory card

I love my Note 3 since I've come from a 4S where the battery hardly lasts 1 hour on full usage, but if the future for the later generations of Samsung phones are ridiculously limited here in Hong Kong e.g. clearly lying to us saying they'll scrap the 16GB and that the phone will come in ONLY 32/64GB flavours but then turn a 180 and give us the 16GB, I'm gonna move onto some other manufacturer. Samsung is becoming a lot like Apple with their restrictive TouchWiz (which was one of the main reasons why I switched from iOS)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
My remorse is finally kicking in after a couple months of owning the device. To the point that I ordered a Cyber Monday deal Moto X for $350 and will dump this phone if I like it.

I'm just tired of the wifi issues and poor network performance overall with no fix in sight.

Not worth my time. If the Moto X satisfies, then my love affair with the Note 3 will be a short one.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Archaenon:
I'm a heavy user, and I use it to draw for hours on end, and it can easily last a full day with one charge. On stock, the att and the tmo edition, both have excellent battery life.

I get better battery on foxhound 4.3 with no wifi issue, really no issues and you can barely tell it's touchwiz on that rom. I'm pretty pleased with it so far.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tuldi:
Poor build quality, and ****ty speaker. Otherwise i love this phone!

T{-_-}ldi was here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
.. Build quality is great on mine, straight home button, no creaks. Pretty decent , no moans there.

Still have trouble accepting the audio /speaker tho, I keep trying, but it's still a let down compared to Note 2.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MvP77:
Only gripe I have is wifi. Other than that I have no problems.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tuldi:
I whould have been more happy with an "unibody" alu body. You know. . Like the htc one or iphone. - it just feel more premium :)

T{-_-}ldi was here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I've had no Wi-Fi issues and travel a lot so connect to lots of different networks in the U.S. and abroad. This is my Octa N10.1-14 and N3 under the same exact conditions.

So either they're both fine or both suck. ;)

As for AT&T's network I've noticed a huge difference in performance using the phone in different cities. Some I experience data drops and meh download speeds while others are rock solid. I think it has as much to do with AT&T's rush to deploy LTE (they say they "have it;" but not that it's "equal" across the country) than it does the N3. For example, my N10.1-14 which is 3G can get solid HSPA+ connections where the N3 struggles with LTE.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cyberprodigy:
I have had virtually no issues with my WiFi. What problems are people having exactly?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Maybe the sound will be addressed with Android 4.4?/4.4.2? My nexus 5's speaker has increased sound dramatically since the update. Still, I can't judge the Note 3 quite yet as its due for delivery tomorrow (Can't wait!) :D

Proud owner of Z1, Nexus 5 & Note 3 :) Sent using XDA Premium.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Updates from MJ7 and later MESSED UP battery life. That is my own problem! Used to get 8hors+ on screen time. Now only around 5hours. :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
I cannot figure it out how did you get eight hours on screen time, because since I have note 3 I only get 6 1/2 hour... And that is not just the case with my device . other people have the same experience since the day one with their devices. Automatic brightness.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
2G/EDGE Network, Greenify, Froze all bloat i don't need, Froze Maps, Froze Google Now, Disable GPS and all other options under it.

See here for setup and screens - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45956552&postcount=1

Cheers! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
None of you guys are getting the unstable connection icon in the status bar periodically? That's my problem and I hate it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I've seen it maybe half a dozen times since October. But each time it was right, I was on a crappy Wi-Fi connection at the time. I never see it on any of the networks I connect to routinely.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
Wow!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yh! WOW! But now, i can barely get HALF of that. thanks to MJ7 firmware ruining everything!!!!!!! :crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
These days I am using task killer application. so i can turn off most of the apps with auto-kill option.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
I have switched from Note 3 to Nexus 5 and couldn't happier except for battery life.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mrhizzo:
Samsung will never fix the problems with TouchWiz?

Too heavy. We need a miracle from they to fix it in Kit Kat.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Cool. Wonder if yours has the slightly larger speaker grill holes? think Google has slightly upgraded the phone due to complaints. What's your audio like?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
Yes I got the new version. The buttons are more flush and updated speakers configuration.

Sounds are fine its no HTC One with Beats Audo but miles better N3.

Nexus 5 is way faster than N3 even with 1GB less in RAM stock Android over TW, I guess.

Things I miss from N3...

Big Screen

Battery Life

Multi Window
[Galaxy Note 3 General] NokkCha:
I'm surprised by some of the responses. I upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy S2 to the Note 3 and am in disbelief to how little flaws it has compared to most other phones in the market right now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
Note 3 has lots of flaws, it depends if they bother you or not. For a $1,000 phone they bothered a lot.

On paper it's a great phone but in reality the experience was poor for me. Phone wise and Samsung customers services (or lack of it).

And definately dont tell me what I can or can't do with my phone that I paid you for already!

I also travel alot so region lock is a no no. I am not running up massive bills roaming because Samsung are being c***s

So only solution was to switch vendors and I am happy I did.

Only if Samsung would give me my money back!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
lol..so,region lock is the only downside in every day use?

Sent from ****sung
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
Region lock is only one of many on my list. Audio, build quality, KNOX, Touchwiz, WiFi, camera etc... The list is endless.....

I first bill with N3 was over $5,000 because half my local SIM didn't work. I cover 32 countries across 5 continents as part my job. This ain't gonna change so N3 has to go. As a business phone it's completely crap. My Huawei Y300 costing $100 does a much better job.

I would sell N3 but it's worth less than 50% now, so an expensive paper weight.

Worse piece of tech I have ever purchased. $1000 wasted.

My only hope is CyanogenMod for Note 3. Until then I stay Nexus 5.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
No Remorse again! Now that my battery is performing Unbelievably well! :D

Battery Saving Tips Here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2579075 :D

ScreenTime

Battery Use

Battery Graph
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
[MENTION=1104009]standley[/MENTION]08

Why are you so obsessed with battery life?

You know the N3 has a removable battery! They cost less than $20!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cyneverdie:
?

Please elaborate. You prefer the Audio of the Nexus 5 vs The Note 3 ?! Build Quality? Wifi & cam etc !?

Dude I am sure you got a bad piece! But Please elaborate. Especially with regards to the Audio quality!

Does anyone else agree with the Toker ?

Cheers
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
Yes build quality is better I had to return 2 N3 due to bad build. I am on my third N3 and it's still put together by drunken monkeys.

Yes audio pisses all over N3 especially on speakers but that's not hard tho since I rate N3 speakers on level with Xmas crackers toys. 3.5mm probably close but N5 is more customisable.

Camera is not really my concerns but in low light N5 is way better even my 3 year old Nokia N9 is better. 4k video is just a gimmick when you can only record 5 mins clips!

WiFi on N3 is crap, Speedtest show my Huawei Y300 can hit hight rates than N3 and thats $100 phone vs $1000 on same wifi network.

I am not asking anyone to agree with me. I have both and I prefer Nexus 5.

I am just stating my experience with N3 and I wish I had a time machine to go back and stop myself from purchasing a Note 3.

I find it difficult to justify N3 over N5 as its twice the cost and it's definitely ain't twice as good.

$1,000 flagship phone should be better.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
my wifi works fast and it have stronger reception of wifi then i did on other phones that I have. camera kick ass in night mode.Audio on speaker is average.

Sent from ****sung
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vitusdoom:
Just saying, seems like you hate samsung. :) most of the stuff listed is because it is a samsung phone.

I came from the nexus family. As I wanted my phone to be more of "my phone". I didn't really like samsung phones as I had similar reasons as what you have listed, but N3 also added something I can't get out of my Nexus4/5. :)

like camera is great,

battery is average,

speed is expected coming from what hardware note3 has.

it has a microsd unlike my old nexus phones. :P ,

removable battery,

(yeah its really lite like a plastic feeling) - why i didn't really like samsung. but turns out to be good as putting it on my pocket its not that heavy considering the huge phone. but compared to other samsung phones, it has a better built,

As long as you root it once you get it. you'll remove all that bloat. (some samsung apps are useful though. -compared to be having nothing but android and just getting some apps from the market *PAID*)

spen is really useful as well.

so, some of the things i've mentioned seem to have balanced out what I hate about samsung and their phones. What I can really say is, im satisfied overall. (just root the damn thing and remove all the stuff you don't need - as even with all the bloat its still amazingly fast! :) )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WolfSpider95:
I'm thinking of getting a Note, but this thread is making the decision quite difficult. What are the main things you guys enjoy about this phone that outweigh the cons?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MSK1:
Note 2 is brilliant. Best phone ever made.

Note 3 might be slightly better but incrementally doesn't add much for the cost.

I like pretty much everything about the note 2.

The gripes are petty gripes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] burnin:
Note 3 is a huge step up from note 2. Begining in the display huge diference...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
1.full hd Display

2.3 gb ram

3.13 mpx 4k recording(first one in world)

4.latest and fastest quad core 2.3 ghz.

5.very Usable pen

6.very strong removable battery

7.micro card slot for memory extension

8.very strong wifi signal reception

All this makes this phone top of the class.

Of course, not everyone wants : pen, strong battery, full HD screen, 4K video, strong hardware...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
I am not say this cos it's samsung. I had a S2 and that was good except for battery life, it was way better that my iphone4. I also own a Samsung SmartTV and a multifunction printer.

What I expected from a $1000 phone....

Stereo speakers (like HTC One)

Spring loading sim & sd card (like Note 2, I change sim cards alot as I travel internationally for work)

Camera with OIS

Better WiFi

Builtin Wireless Charging

No gaps between screen & bezel to collect dust.

No Loose Home button

Better OS - this can be fixed by rooting or custom rom

Things I like about N3....

Battery Life

SD Card (now I have Nexus 5)

Multi Window (I could run Omni ROM to have this feature)

IrDA port (was setup for my SmartTV / SAT etc..)

I don't think N3 is worth $1000.

It's it was like $500-600 range then I could accept the flaws.

CyanogenMod may revert me back to N3. If that doesn't do it then it's ebay and take a 50%+ hit on N3