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[Galaxy Note 3 General] irzero:
What pisses me off about this note 3 is the forced 32GB. Its not like Samsung are giving us free 32GB they have just forced the extra money by removing the 16GB option from the UK.

I own the Note 2 and i dont know why but i just cant seem to pull the trigger on this phone. I dont need that bull**** knox crap samsung has forced on me. I dont need 32GB either. I dont like the cheap plastic fake leather crap or the horrid page effect bezel.

Samsung cant seem to get it right. Their design team sucks so bad they should all be shot. If Samsung made cars they would look like Hyundai's

every other phone maker is worse though. Samsung really is the best of the bad bunch.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] b00mb00mchuck:
Holy cow... glad I don't live in this world

I did my homework... looked at the specs... decided on what I wanted

there were a few things I didn't like and options they didn't have... but nobody held a gun to my head or forced me to do anything

I'm stoked... dig this phone... hope they work around Knox but ... meh... it'll just be the icing on the note

I understand I guess... but time is much better spent being happy with what you got...

(I drive a Hyundai)

unsubscribed from this thread... it's making my head hurt
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kromosto:
Ok i am sorry you are right. Below post made me understand you.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dr.m0x:
I think a lot of them are angry because Samsung didn't design the phone to meet their expectations but to have wide appeal.

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
Im happy with the n3. Yeah I wish the speaker was better but thats really the only small letdown for me.

I think region lock is BS as well as locked bootloaders even though neither apply to me. If the canadian variant had those I would have spent my money elsewhere. If im paying $800 plus dollars for a phone I want to be able to do with it what I want and use it where I want.

Knox is BS too but it doesnt prevent anyone from flashing so its a non issue really.

I also own an s3,s4 and a note 2 but if sammy continues this trend of locking things down this may well be the last samsung device I purchase.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bruce lee roy:
No you just took a wrong turn and found yourself in a 'Buyers Remorse' thread. It baffles me how people can surprised as to the number of negative comments with a thread so clearly marked 'Buyers Remorse'
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Now you talking some sense pal.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gingerdude:
Just upgraded from my note 2 to the jet black note 3 and WOW I love it, it's impossibly light and thin and the screen is epic. It feels grown up compared to my note 2. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
lol some people can't help themselves....

I can't wait until the HTC One Max Bashing starts...... Should be an Epic, epic, ride...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
lol that's outta control.. There are always going to be compromises when it comes to a mass produced device for public consumption.

I have crappy service at my home by all providers. I figured this out a long time ago. So I purchased a booster made by Wilson and could not be happier. I also use wifi calling because when I am working with clients from home, which is a job perk for myself. I can't deal with bad reception or slow internet connection etc. So I take measures to make sure that I don't have those issues. I can't control what any telecom does, but I can mitigate me not wanting to throw my device out my window or going all "scorched earth" on a forum towards a manufacturer.

I used to be a HTC person. I loved their devices and after the original Evo to me at least I didn't like the results I was getting with their devices so I changed up and along came Samsung, and the Nexus lines... To most people who use these devices for business they are just tools that makes interacting with clients a easier and faster experience.

I wish we could throw out the internal speakers, make the device 3oz heavier and 2 mm thicker. In exchange for better radio's, bigger batteries. Now that may work for me, but for someone else who may have much smaller hands and isn't as strong as I am, something as simple as 3 Oz could induce things like hand and finger fatigue and the onset of MVC. So just because it may work for me in my lifestyle it probably will not be work for the majority of device users.

Wait until the "Fruit" releases the 5" revolutionary device, it will be the toast of the town, and 1/4 of the "user" base for android will migrate and sight things such as eco system and OS just works etc as a reason for leaving. Which may in fact be true and valid statements at the time.

The build quality will be great and the drop tests will be horrid and the "fruit" will reap profits for people replacing their phones at a record rate. And the android bashing will reach new heights.

Ask any Apple genius representative about how many iphones sold are replacements for currents generations users who have either used up all their "replacements" via insurance for dropped phones. The answer/percentage will surprise you. And thats for a "Premium build quality" device..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toker_X1:
I had iphones before and they may look premium but build quality is no better than Samsung, HTC or Motorola.

For me Nokia has far superior build quality than any other manufacturer I have seen but they run Symbian or Windows!

As for Note 3 the main let down are sounds. External speakers (if you can call the that) are so tinny only good for phones calls, so forget multimedia.

Also Samsung stock rom has zero sound management. Example: if you are playing music and an email arrives the notification sounds will cut whatever active application sound is running to deliver the notification, on andriod roms would fade the notification sound in.

The plastic feel doesn't bother me i knew i was buying a Samsung!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] joexda75:
My biggest grip is they drop AC-3 support so the stock video player is pretty useless for me now.

Also the lack of OIS and of a better low light camera.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I hope they fix lowlight stills and video performance - I've never seen such awful images. Natural daylight I'm very pleased tho.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Btw, why OP uses that ridiculous/annoying big red lettertype?

That's remorseful :laugh:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
All in all, I decided to stick with Note II. I could go out and buy the 3 tomorrow if I want but I decided it wasnt enough of an upgrade (for me) at the price it was currently at.

I'm glad some others are happy with their choice. I'm hoping a phone comes out soon which I'll have no choice to buy as I'm not massively drawn to Samsung phones. However, if the Note III drops in price anytime soon I may just buy it anyway.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Wise move imo. I've still got my Note 2, can't bring myself to sell it.

Have tried to sell my Note 3 but can't get a good price at all for it..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sonix6:
Sorry, didn't read this entire thread, but how is the call quality of the 3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Hendrickson:
Its not bad, its good. Nothing amazing, but its better than my G2's call quality.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sonix6:
Thanks, that info seems hard to come by. I've noticed that in the past, people don't dis their new love until the honeymoon is over.

Btw, Samsung is now showing a car mount for the 3, but, as usual, not enough info!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] baste07:
Nokia best build? if you like plastic
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
It's already dropped and it will drop further very soon. Don't rush into buying it wait while longer, it's definitely not worth the price tag.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] weirdingway:
This would be the biggest fail in buyer's remorse and shouldn't be included in the OPs list, ever. It's an already known spec before you get the phone so obviously you wouldn't even buy it in the first place. This thread is for the things that AREN'T known from what Samsung tells you that people have discovered (like undocumented TouchWiz changes people don't like or details in the actual build quality (like a loose home button)).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Dan37tz:
Wait is the speaker the same or worse than the Note 2?

I was perfectly happy with the Note 2's speaker volume, if the Note 3 is equal to it I have no problems with that.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ParrotSquawk:
Where is the root thread?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
Info about Knox has been around since Feb this year. Was covered in the Samsung presentation at Berlin. If you don't like your N3 return it get money back and buy something else. Simples.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
More insecure samfans. It's more plastic then I expected, looks and feels much cheaper real life. The side bezel is absolutely the worst part of the design, should sack they guy who designed it.

I can't see Samsung using plastic next year not sure about amoled.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
I feel right the opposite. Looks much better in person. In fact, after playing with one today, I can't wait until next week!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Personal preference or no choice? If you had 2 versions of Note 3 one premium build and the other plastic which would you buy?

I would go for premium build N3 every time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brooon:
This has nothing to do with the faulty decision to integrate "S-Search" instead of google now - beside that, as much as i deeply LOVE Nova, the criticism on samsung in this case is absolutely correct. You are buying a very expensive phone with a HUGE and MASSIVE launcher with TONS of functions - which you will lose as soon as your are switching to nova (widgets, penactions, the "HTC One" styled thing (don´t know the name :D).

Very same topic? The 4x4 grid ---> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2457197
[Galaxy Note 3 General] azhurvadal:
I can completely understand if you are disappointed by plastic material in N3. But you should have expected this before you bought it because all the previews of Note 3 mentioned this. It's Samsung you know, all of the their latest phones are made from plastic.

It's fine if you don't like it, but for many people it's still acceptable.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brooon:
I wouldn´t. After all the smartphones I went through during the last 6 years, I definitely can say (at least for me) that samsungs models always were the only ones that still looked great, even after several years of usage. What exactely do you define as "premium build"? Aluminum? Other metals? Most of them got scratches pretty fast, nearly all of them lost their coating (is this the correct word? :)) after a while. But the "plastic" models? Colours stayed the same, more scratch resistant.

The only ONE thing that really bothers me is the bezel. I don´t know why the hell samsung still uses this cheap plastic bezel that gets rid of its coating as fast as possible :D Really a "thumbs down" here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
Honestly, I'd probably go with plastic. Premium build and durability are 2 different things.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
I agree Premium build and durability aren't mutually inclusive but neither is plastic and durability. I have both premium built phones and cheap plastic phones and both I've maintained in good condition by taking care.

Premium looks good and feels quality in the hand. The price tag warrants a premium price whereas I feel plastic is not value for money. I personally can't help feeling cheated having said that I still buy note 3 because I have no alternative yet. I'm annoyed with HTC for not launching HTC max yet as then I would have probably bought that.

This year I'll didn't buy s4 because of better alternatives in the shape of HTC one and iPhone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
I had the HTC One also. Great feeling device! Good thing is, Samsung may be giving us a choice with the rumored F series.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Sounds interesting hope it is better finish.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bastardtrees:
I fear selling my trusty note 2 and replacing it with a note 3 from verizon and missing the following and have sellers and buyers remorse.

1. unlocked bootloader

2. ability to root

3. custom roms

4. worse battery life (1080p screen)

5. pen tile display now ?

6. taking a long time or impossible to crack locked boot loader

7. things like LMT Pie APK

8. custom kernels

9. most/some of my videos/movies are not HD 1080p and will look okay but not great on a 1080p screen

10. maybe ? worse adobe Flash APK support
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Out of curiosity what would you consider a "Premium built" phone?

Is it strictly based on weight or material used etc??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Premium materials tend to be heavier so weight is a factor probably aluminium, metal and lcd 3 screen. Not to bother about wireless charging or removal back cover to be honest.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] H0rn:
I've rooted my phone, did it within an hour of getting it delivered:)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mark925:
This really isn't a fair negative on a phone that most of the world doesn't even have yet and just came out within the last couple days.

If it's this way a few months from now, those are fair negative points but give it a chance.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Totally agreed,

But I have read many threads where this is the complaint. I will adjust to reflect this with a TBD asterisk.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Wait dude - I paid £620 for it on release day, what a fool. Hold fire, get it as cheap as you can..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] drpal181:
I am starting to see the lag. However its almost identical to the lag I saw when I first got my note 2.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Of course that the GNote2 users like me are running a debloated 4.3 and only using some goodies of the GNote3 , eliminating Knox and other annoyances ( I have no traces of it) and, once again, with tons of bloatware removed so, off course I can run air view and other GNote3 stuff flawlessly. But no big deal since as you know, a successful mod rom will always be faster than the stock one and not everyone is willing to extensively mod their phones or even root it...

I am more pissed of with Samsung policies; but even without that, I would probably Skip the GNote3 anyway cause sound quality is a big deal for me.

Just got spoiled with with my Wolfson/Voodoo powered devices such as the sgs1 and GNote2..and , I know, music sound on portable devices is not a big deal to many.....But It is for me though... I am glad that my Smartphones could easily replace all the standalone MP3 players I tested and all my GPS devices for instance...

I was having a a hard time resisting the temptation of getting the GNote3, but I am just enjoying the GNote2 still quite a lot, so I will save me some buck...

Happy for you that you are enjoying the GNote3 and I will see you again at the future GNote4 forum cause I wont resist getting the next Powerhouse overkill flagship phone ...but right this time, won't give any support to Samsung ( and they are going to review their stupid policies , like the Region Lock thing, just after they realize that sales are not really what they expected, and I think they are just realizing it)

Next firmware updates will tell ...

By the way, how relevant is this "purple smear" screen issue I have been reading about?

Enjoy your phone :good:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] sweeney_uk:
the purple smear has been non existent for me. had the phone 2 weeks and loving it :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I've flashed my Note 2 back to stock, no dsp manager or anything running. And the audio still blows the Note 3 ! I compared a Led Zeppelin you tube clip, on both devices through the external speaker - the difference isn't slight, it's massive, I'm really tempted to put my Note 3 in a box, and go back to my Note 2, ok if music on a phone doesn't bother you I must sound like a nutter, but if you care and compare the two. You'll hear a big difference there.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] irzero:
I just found out that the same old Pentile crap causes fuzzy edges on text. Its smaller but its there and doesnt look as good as LCD. My note 2 has no such problem...

Sigh... Samsung makes life hard..

Want a new phone but i cant find one i really want..

waited for the Note 3 and its all gone so wrong..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yep, I notice that too. Particularly any black writing on Facebook for instance, not easy on my eyes.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ttav:
Put it in the box as you are unhappy with it.I put my Note 2 in it`s box today and gave it to my niece as i`m happy with my Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
Same here. I am very happy with n3 too. I found it much better than note 2 in sound, display and battery department.

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Much better than a Note 2 in sound? Which variant are using? Sorry but if you heard my two phones side by side I'd have to hit you over the head with my Note 2 if you claimed the Note 3 was better sound wise.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
^^

I have exynos version. I already did comparison. imo sound is much better on both speakers and headphones.

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Must be because you're rocking the Exynos variant then, cos I can assure you my Snapdragon 800 N3 doesn't sound anyway better than my Note 2, it's impossible.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
I knew the Exynos version could be carrying the Wolfson DAC as well..

But a better speaker also?

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Guess it's possible on both counts? Wish i had the Wolfson DAC in my Note 3 - it'd be killer then.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
What I meant is if it could be possible that Samsung put a bigger speaker ( like the Note2's) on the Exynos version too

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I'm not sure, but in don't think they did. You'd never fit a Note 2 speaker on the underside of the Note 3, it's too big, and I've never seen a note 3 with a rear mounted speaker sadly. Wish there was one.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
So I guess that saying that the speaker sound of the Exynos Note3 sounds better than the Note2's is just wishful thinking ....

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Can't say, never heard one. I have a hunch that if I had Dsp manager or similar running, I'd get a half decent sound that I'd be happy with, that's something I've yet to discover..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Because I can...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I have extremely high-end IEM's and the sound output of the N3 is exceptional. Most people who swear by Super Curio's Voodoo and listen to highly compressed music on $50 headphones are simply following the crowd in their adulation. BT output, which I use a lot, is significantly better on the N3 than on the N2 - I mean like "holy crap" better when listened to back-to-back. The only place the N2 is better than the N3 audio wise is external speaker output and that's in depth; the volume is the same.

The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 showed exceptionally clean audio output in our audio quality test. The phablet posted some of the best scores we have seen in both parts of the test and garnished them with decent volume levels. It's not the loudest we have seen, but it's loud enough for 99% of the occasions.

Impressively, there's virtually no distortion when you plug in a pair of headphones. Except for the minor bump in stereo crosstalk the output is barely affected.

And here go the results so you can see for yourselves.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-review-996p8.php​

You guys are literally making stuff up now. The N3's display is breathtaking and nearly twice as bright as the N2's when left on Adapt Display.

N2

N3

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
[Galaxy Note 3 General] irzero:
Ive pulled the trigger im going to see for myself.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yes Barry - the Note 2 beats the 3's external speaker, that's what I'm referring too these last few weeks ffs, 3.5 jack isn't the problem.

Also, system audio, alerts, You Tube audio, all sound thin on Note 3, a fact. (SD800 variant)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Super Curio would laugh his butt off if he knew people were talking about his work and variances in DAC performance in the same breath as audio output via any devices external speaker(s). The N3's external output means little to me (YMMV) because I'd rather chew off an arm than listen to media over an external speaker for more than a few minutes. The N3's speaker is fine for conference calls which are of a limited range and actually has an advantage because you can use the display (EG: mute, add a participant) while on a call which you can't on the N2 which has to lie on its face.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Supercurio would laugh his butt off at you for relying on Gsm Arenas graphs charts and ability to measure audio. He's forever criticising them publicly.. For being inaccurate.

This isn't the place for you to defend purchase anyway, it's buyers remorse, where we are allowed to gripe as much as we like..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] marrzie:
Ooooooo burned !
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
We agree. But it doesn't mean that I and others can't share our equally personal and subjective opinions if we see something being intentionally over dramatized or even misrepresented. And I'd take any objective testing from any source over the personal, subjective, and sometimes biased opinions I've seen expressed in this thread. And remember, I'm a N2 owner so while you and I don't agree we're basing our opinions on the exact same physical comparisons. That shows you the danger of subjectivity.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Ok pal, perhaps I have a good tip for you...

VIPER4ANDROID

http://www.mediafire.com/?6z6ohcykto83j18

I think it's also compatible with the S800 DAC ( unlike many other mods) and it will possibly improve things for you quite a lot...

If you try it , let me know how it went..

Over here it's doing even better the the Voodoo Sound plus which is even Wolfson dedicated...

They also have a thread at the XDA and a recently launched website..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191223

Good luck..

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That's the way to do it.....check things out for yourself...

Never rely on 3rd party opinions and the so called "expert" sites...or comparison pics / charts

Before buying a phone, I always take my headsets to the showrooms and play hours/days with the phones ..I never pre order...

But I must confess, even though I made up my mind, Barry"s obstination is making me going back to the shop and test the headset sound of the Gnote3 again!

Nah..just joking...the results all clear to me..

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Gaugerer:
Op, Looking at your long list of issues you obviously need to improve your selection procedure before buying else your going to to have remorse no matter what you buy. LOL
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Which variant have you got, Exynos?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
I don't think anyone is saying the Note 2 is better. But it would seem not many people are too impressed with the update and the praise isn't as unanimous as going from the Note 1 to 2.

My Note 2 is LTE anyway so I'm not massively concered yet about having to update.

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Yep vipermod is pretty sweet. Does make a massive difference on my Note 2 and Nexus 4, but obviously you need to be rooted for it.

I reckon Nexus 4 is utter cack SQ wise. Not heard Note III yet but I doubt its worse than the Nexus. After tweaking though the Nexus is pretty decent now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Clovismod:
When the N2 was released, Samsung was under heavy flak for having switched to a 760 screen.Some even predicted N2 to sell less than the N1

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