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[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
This has never happened to me. It never takes more than a second to open the text messages. I wonder if you are running out of memory due to bloat in the phone, or if it has to do with a custom ROM that you are running?

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm not sure. I'm rooted and debloated on my own, I'm not running a custom rom. I took a decent amount of bloat out, so not sure why I would be running out of memory.
[G2 General] argoldst:
Sorry, I did not mean to come off as an a$$. Most people exaggerate lag times. I am wondering if there is something wrong with your phone or perhaps an app is causing the problem. Has anyone else actually experiencing this type of lag?
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Well Well Well. Just bought another Note 3 and sold the G2. Gotta ship it tomorrow.
[G2 General] MIKEYG86:
G2

I have to agree with the others about the software keys. You can always use pie controls to get around that and have the full 5.2" of display. Actually i don't mind the software keys at all. I'm most definitely not a fan of the fixed home keys. The software keys make navigating the phone a lil quicker actually. The display on the G2 is great. Not too big and most definitely not too small. I would go with the G2 for sure.
[G2 General] vegetaleb:
G2 main advantage is the size,making a 5.2" one handed friendly is wonderfull,in pocket size is also better than note 3,camera is better in low light but overexposed in daylight,note 3 is better in speaker volume and fun like weather sensor.

Reselling a samsung note or S phone is always easier than an LG,apart the nexus4 of course
[G2 General] tiguy99:
I just use auto hide soft keys app and voila more screen space just like that :)
[G2 General] montyf:
I went from the note2 to GS4 to G2. I thought I would have a hard time getting over no SD or removable battery. Hasn't been a issue at all. The battery life just blows me away! I did go and get a note 8.0 and I feel like I have the perfect combo now
[G2 General] muhamet:
time for changes no more samsung lets change.
[G2 General] antinorm:
After having had a GNex for almost two years, it will be a cold day in a very bad place before I get another Samsung phone.
[G2 General] kcharng:
Coming from a gnex, the community is great, the phone was ok but battery life sucks. They should have included 2000mah battery right off and I would have nothing to complain.

Now with g2, the difference is night and day.
[G2 General] bri315317:
You have a link to the pie controls you are using?

Thanks
[G2 General] cruzargel:
Coming from Note 2, I did a side by side speed comparison. Loading web pages and opening of apps. Guess what, Note won 6/10 times. Hmmm. Maybe my Note is on a custom rom(but still in Samsung base)?
[G2 General] mainstang:
Not to discredit your comparison. But were the browsers the same. I use Chrome on all my devices. So that would help me decide.

Sent from my glitter pony
[G2 General] droid_<3er:
Uhhh. It doesn't matter if it's on a Samsung base; that's sort of the whole point of a tweaked stock ROM. It's a custom ROM. Even CleanROM hasn't got there yet in terms of speed.

Exactly.

Really the only thing keeping me from buying the Note 3 is how much the AMOLED hurts my eyes. I don't know why, maybe it's the blue; I can't handle the S4 for more than 10 minutes. S3 was much better.
[G2 General] johncommode:
I just bought a G2 retail as a replacement for my Note 1. I loved that phone, but I honestly grew tired of its size after a while. I never found much use for the S Pen.

After 21 months of use, I could no longer stand the poor battery life. I realize they addressed that with the Note 2, but I went for this phone due to its battery life, ample size and look. Not to mention it is very snappy.

I played with the Note 3 at the store and its just too damn big. It was speedy and impressive, but I am so far happy with my choice.
[G2 General] Tunderpimp:
I find home keys like a down grade, like I'm going backwards. None futuristic. A phone with a button on the front is like a phone with no nfc or no wireless charging.

Like a iPhone.
[G2 General] WilburNJ:
I was going thru the same back and forth on G2 vs Note 3 as well. I ultimately went with the G2, for a number of reasons. My priorities were screen quality, ergonomics, camera, battery life, and customizability. I think the G2 wins on all these fronts versus the Note. But, seeing the videos showing off how much fun and potentially productive the S pen features seem to be, I was (and still am) tempted by the Note 3. Then I realized how unwieldy the Note would be on a practical, day-to-day basis, as well as the likelihood that I'd get passed the novelty of the s pen and never really use it after some initial period of time. So, I went with the G2.

Speaking of customizability, there's a video on YouTube by someone called BOSSYtexasCHICK that walks thru some of the things we can do to make the G2 work the way we want it to, and after you get passed the down-home style of presentation, it's pretty informative. I can't post a link because I'm a new member to Xda, but you can type in her name and G2 and you should find her video pretty easily. It's called something like "15 secret features of the LG G2", or something like that.
[G2 General] IamPro:
This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2mF1nCjrc
[G2 General] droid_<3er:
I can't remember who but she's on xda I think...
[G2 General] WilburNJ:
Yup, that's the one. :)
[G2 General] cruzargel:
I tested on Chrome and Dolphin on both. Wiped cache of course.

And auto focus/focus lock takes too looonnngg
[G2 General] darkhelio:
im planing to get the NOte 3... but i still dont know for for the LG G2 or NOte 3 im looking for a monster specs phone with the snp 800 CPU and the phone that will get good kernels of overclocking in the future... :) thats all what i need.. i dont think we need the 3GB of ram... thats for all the ****tie apps of Samsung and the S-pen Feautures... so i just want a phone with good kernels and rooms for overclockng :) im a freak of overclocking :3 but i still not dicide
[G2 General] cruzargel:
The note 3 will get dev attention. Look at G2 forums.

Another rant is the weaker cellular reception.
[G2 General] beezar:
There are definitely areas where Sprint is broadcasting on band 41, and band 25 supposedly is being tested in some markets. So yes, having a tri-band phone is useful for future-proofing especially if you keep phones for 2 years like I do.
[G2 General] Oaklands:
Good to see someone else who worries about the basic use of a cell phone, to use it as a phone. I have always bought Moto's in the past due to the great reception of their antenna. I ruled out any Samsung device because anyone who shows up at my house with one cannot keep a signal.

I decided to take a chance on the G2 and I can truly say, it keeps as good, if not maybe a little better signal at my home. I am coming from a Droid Razr Maxx. I have given it a pretty good going over in the last 2 days. Checking the GPS on a trip, phone signal in marginal areas, transfer speeds on 4g, and a few other things.

I only did the partial root in case I changed my mind. I will probably go ahead and do the full root on it so I can freeze my bloat and such. I have not noticed any lag, the camera is pretty good, especially during daylight. I have never had a phone take great pictures inside. If I want great pictures, I'll upgrade my camera. Working with spreadsheets has been great as well.

I am an older geek, in my 50's, so my eyes are not what they used to be. This screen seems perfect for me. It is very easy to read everything. Custom roms are already coming out, so I will probably be playing with some of those as well.

Overall, I am quite satisfied.

I forgot to add, the battery life is quite impressive and I am not seeing any lag when opening my message app. I don't know what could be causing that on some phones and not others. Mine pops right up when I load it.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Lmao. Where did you buy your Note from?
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Lol! I bought it on swappa. Did you receive yours?

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Same here. I don't know what that other guy is talking about but the messaging app takes at least 1.5 second to open a thread. Coming from the Note 3 it is very noticeable. Also when I received my G2 and installed apps, clicking on an app to go ahead and install it took the same second and half vs the Note 3 which is almost instant. Its VERY NOTICEABLE. Not to mention the lag when sometimes u exit an app and scroll through the home screen,it hangs for a second (nit every time but it's frustrating) . Also when your reboot the phone and unlock the screen, it lags and needs a few second before being smooth whereas the Note 3 is smooth as butter in any occasion no matter what the situation.

If ppl don't like to hear this kinda stuff then don't participate in this thread, we are being realistic and sharing our experiences.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
I'm just not seeing lag like that and I've had mine on stock for over a month.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I believe u. But we all have different points of view. What I may call lag may not be lag for u. Or maybe u have a better unit than I do.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Or a different app config. How much free memory do you have at any given time? You can use the System Panel app to find out.

I generally have 300 to 400 mb free.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] argoldst:
For those that have had the lag problem, I am curious. Did you always have it from the minute you got it or is this something that developed some time after using it?
[G2 General] barondebxl:
So do I. I have about 60 apps installer. I always clear my apps after im done using the phone and I always clear history, cache and cookies on the browser.

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I just got the phone yesterday and it was noticeable right away starting with how slow it enters the play store to install apps. I'm in cleanrom 1.1
[G2 General] iastonish:
I barely clear anything and leave apps running in the background and my messaging app opens in under a second. Not trying to brag or anything just giving another perspective

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But when I'm in the messaging app and click on a convo it does have that 3 second delay you're talking about.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Yeah thats what were saying. Opening the messaging app itself is fairly fast but opening a convo is very slow.

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Hey guys, dogfight between note 3 as he G2 on phonedog

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/samsung-galaxy-note-3-vs-lg-g2-dogfight-part-1/
[G2 General] ShyamSasi:
The price is same here India for both devices. If I have to buy G2 I too will get International edition. I'm planning to buy this weekend after looking Z1 & G2. Currently I have HTC One X and it's smooth as butter. So I might find those lags annoying. I lost trust with Samsung. I went to check N3 and I noticed the DEMO unit is S800 and the one they are sell is Exynos chipset. I'm a huge fan of HTC sadly there are no S800 based devices and I'm badly in need of a new phone.
[G2 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
I actually DO notice the slight lag when opening the conversation, i can only count 2 seconds not 3 like some of you are saying. Still in my return window, im so torn on what to do. Maybe ill just stick to my speed demon HTC One.

Edit: its so minimal though that i dont know if I should even complain about it.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Well again I'm not seeing that even on an SMS conversation that I've been having with my wife for over a month. It takes one second maximum. How do you switch phones and then immediately have such a long SMS conversation that it takes 3 seconds to open?

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I think there's a misunderstanding. When I click on the messaging app it opens fast. But when I click on any name to read the sms or send one it takes more than a second to open. I have a galaxy s 4 for Verizon with me And I compared both, the opens almost instantaneously but the G2 pauses for a second or 2.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
OK well some here have been saying 3 seconds to open a conversation. To test I did a general task kill, then opened the SMS messaging app and then clicked on the thread with my wife (which is quite long). It took 2-3 seconds max from app launch to thread opening and that included me interacting with the screen to select the wife's thread.
[G2 General] Lesser Version:
I digress
[G2 General] carakamuda:
Same here, it only took a second. An acceptable performance for me.
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Mine isn't lagging like that. How many contacts do you guys have in your text app?

Also keep in mind you guys are judging the overall phone on the lg skin. Try a different messenger app and you'll probably eliminate the lag issue.
[G2 General] carakamuda:
I have more than a thousand contacts. The conversation opens in less than a second most of the time. It is not an issue for me.

Since XDA times I always use clear RAM regularly to regain the optimal performance of my device.
[G2 General] iastonish:
There is definitely a delay, but it's not that big of a deal to me. Too many things I like about the phone to dismiss it because of that. But as an unbiased g2 owner there certainly is some wait time when opening a convo. If you go from screen straight to the convo there is no lag though, same with opening the app initially, so it's a bit confusing as to why it's hanging at that certain point.
[G2 General] muhamet:
note haw

note 3 haw knox and lg g2 haw knoc knock :)
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well I got my Note 3 and I'm torn. The overall brightness of the display is better than the G2 and the colors pop like crazy which we already knew about amoled displays. The G2 looks sort of flat next to it. Of course the G2 is more color accurate, but I don't do my graphic design on my phone nor does anyone else that I know lol. So in short, prefer the display on the Note 3.

What I also prefer on the Note 3 is it is indeed smoother and faster than the G2. I'm insanely OCD about lag and speed, and the Note 3 wins here. Apps opens faster and smoother and there is never delay or stuttering like I get on my G2 at times.

The only real hangup for me right now is the size. If it was a bit smaller I would have already made my decision with ease.

So ultimately, if I can get used to the size, I'm choosing the Note 3 hands down. Just my opinion of course.
[G2 General] MohJee:
What happened to your previous dozens of posts bashing note 3/touchwiz and how laggy they were ? Was that a defective unit?
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Two things happened:

1. I had an S4 before the G2 which was a complete lag fest. It was a joke and the G2 blows it away. So I swore off Samsung at that point thinking they would never get it right.

2. The Note 3 that I initially played with in the AT&T store must have been bogged down with something. Now that I own one, I can completely confirm that there is no lag on the phone. I would have nothing to gain by lying about that either since I swore off Samsung.

The only reason why I picked up a Note 3 is because I got a crazy deal which made it zero risk for me if I simply want to flip it if I don't like it. And I also know a dev who got one and he put some peer pressure on me to try it out lol. I trust his judgement so I picked one up. Going in, I didn't really think I would keep it. But now that I've played with it, it's damn impressive and just moves along more fluidly.

With all of that being said, I'm still on the fence. I may end up keeping the G2, I'm just not sure yet. I'm gonna use this weekend to use both of them and the Note 3 extensively since I've already used the G2 for a month. I will make up my mind then.
[G2 General] argoldst:
As I also have both phones and am still making up my mind, I will add that I have found my note 3 to occasionally lag. However, it isn't as repeatable as the G2 (open messages). It happens at different times and will lag for a second or two. Overall I don't think anyone would doubt that the N3 seems to be faster and have less lag than the G2. I'm not sure it is or should be a deciding factor on the either phone. battery life, screen quality, pocketability, microsd card, are all more important to me.

However after a few days I'm starting to realize that a mix of the two is what I really want which means I'm not 100% happy with either phone. I think I will just settle on one (stay on tmobile's jump) and try something new in about 6 months. Since I put zero down, this isn't a bad strategy.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Man that really says it all! :)

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] noobsquared:
Since you have both phones, have you taken any night time shots with both and see if Note 3 is any better in low light?
[G2 General] muhamet:
i dhont like the samsung all that security.root and eFuse ,knox.
[G2 General] Gnarfsan:
I just switched from the Note 2 to the LG G2 because the Note was just too damn wide.

I really love the G2 so far. Perfect size and weight.
[G2 General] CrashTestDroid:
Your S4 was laggy bc of TW bloat. It's unlikely you had faulty hardware, only faulty software.

G2 is only laggy bc of LG bloat. Once we have a device tree for the G2 new roms will be possible and good things will happen :) ofc we also need proper recent Android released by LG for the best drivers.

otoh Note 3 will be getting way better dev support as usual thx to S Kondik owning one. And the screen is quite a bit better than G2. But then you have efuses and Samsung's pathetic warranty support.
[G2 General] :
lol people wake up Android lags. You want a lagfree phone get an Apple. You want choice, passionate people to make a device what it is get a Android.

Please spam Google for creating a lag free OS and then the vendors and providors for implementing that OS
[G2 General] aznmode:
I have both. Not night shot but low light. Sun still out

Note 3

G2

Night time with flash

Note 3

G2

In my room with flash

Note 3

G2

Just to add my s4
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I hear u here. I was the same, the S4 was the phone I was waiting for earlier this year but when it was released and I got it, I was so disappointed. A true laggy piece of sh*t. (Im using a verizon S4 now till my note 3arrives tomorrow and it stutters like hell).

But the Note 3 is totally different. No lag whatsoever. Touchwiz needs that extra gig of ram to really give it some breathing room.

I was surprised that the G2 has lag. I previously owned the optimus G pro and it was the smoothest and most fluid experience Ive ever had on an android device (smoother than the Note 3 jn my opinion). Heres a comparison that I made between the Gpro, HTC One and S4 a few months ago:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2325843

So I was expecting the G2 to kick ass but unfortunately it does stutter. Some dont think its a big deal but I do. I cannot stand lag and stutters.

Take your time trying the Note 3 and make a good decision. The note 3 is definitely the better performer but its size can be cumbersome to the point that it can be annoying at times. Also I have no doubt that the G2 is gonna get better with development and android 4.3/4.4 updates. The nexus 7 2012 became laggy after awhile and android 4.3 breathed new life to it. The G2 is very fast already and once those minor hiccups get ironed out its gonna REALLY give the note 3 a run for his money in my opinion. The form factor, sexyness of the phone plus the insane battery life, great camera and buttons on the back make it a very good choice. It's only gonna get better.
[G2 General] danipan:
Can someone please tell me who owned either LG G2 or Note 3

1. If the phone heats a lot like what is the normal temperature in Celsius and the highest temp? Does it heat up while browsing? (My note 1 does in just 2 minutes)

2. Who has better dev support (custom rom) and easier to root or is there restriction in unlocking bootloader?

3. Is ram a big deal? 2GB vs 3GB (future proof in updating firmware or running apps)

4. Which of the two, LG or Samsung, has the best support in updating their firmware?
[G2 General] barondebxl:
1. Both phones run at a decent temperature. When you play games things might heat up but nothing unusual.

2. It depends on which carrier you pick up the phone. For AT&T and verizon the G2 has much better dev support at this time because the Verizon and AT&T Note 3 have a locked bootloader. So does the G2 but it has the loki patch which bypasses the bootloader. For T mobile and sprint the Note 3 has a MUCH better dev support because their bootloaders is fully unlocked.

3. Yes Ram is a big deal here because the Note 3 runs flawlessly vs the G2 that has occasional lag. The note 3 is extras future proof. Just gotta adjust to its size.

4. Definitely Samsung. The G2 launched with android 4.2.2 while the Note 3 launched with android 4.3. End of story.
[G2 General] carakamuda:
It could very well be LG, the manufacturer of nexus 5, who manage to be the first to get kitkat on a flagship model.
[G2 General] jfenton57:
Earpiece Sound Quality ~ Which is Best?

If you have used both.....which of the two has the clearer earpiece call quality?

My hearing stinks even with hearing aids, so sound quality is hugely important.

Thanks!
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Haven't talked on the note 3 yet but Samsung usually has great call quality in their earpiece. Having owned the G2, after owning several iPhones, Galaxy S2, Atrix HD, and HTC One, I can vouch that the call quality in the G2 is excellent, lid and clear.

Its a couple db quieter vs the HTC One but seriously it's not night and day difference. In fact I prefer talking on the G2's earpiece due to better equalizer towards treble to midrange vs HTC One where its more midrange To bassy if that makes sense. Plus there's no hiss sound while talking in the G2.

There's an option for voice enhancement in the call menu and made a difference in my G2.

You won't have a problem hearing on it.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
It could.....but LG manufactured the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G pro still launched with android 4.1 instead of 4.2. And 4.3 isnt available yet...
[G2 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
Awesome awesome phone but im taking mine back. Theres times where im sliding my finger on the screen and the touch sensitivity goes all crazy, screen is clean and everything but it does it here and there. The camera is nice but sometimes its really blurry (i flashed the modded one which helped a bit) and in low light my One blows it out the water. Like i said this phone is SICK but there are just some things that my One can do a bit better. Might try out the Note 3 but idk maybe ill just wait for the nexus, for those on the fence TRY this phone out. Its really a sick sick phone and i hate that im returning it to be honest.
[G2 General] shook187:
If you really do like the phone I suggest you keep returning it, it'll you get a perfect one.
[G2 General] Nickel Dime Bay:
They dont have the white ones in stores tho, maybe ill just switch it for a black
[G2 General] recDNA:
I love my note 3 butnmy right hand is actually sore (very sore) from stretching to hold it to type one handed. I can do it but my hand doesn't like it. I'm trying to stick to two handed typing to see if my hand gets better.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3
[G2 General] xb0n3z:
Apple is anything but lag free. Have you tried IOS 7.. When you change a wallpaper in 7.02 your system starts hanging for up to 2 minutes.. Known bug, but hey, it's not lag free :)
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well, I'm pretty certain that I'm gonna keep the Note 3. I still want to test more tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure.

If anyone is looking for a G2 or knows someone who is, just shoot me a PM.
[G2 General] americasteam:
Why not use one-handed operation when you only have one hand available?
[G2 General] recDNA:
I do but my hand barely wraps around the outer edge so any thumb movement forces me to grasp tightly with my finger tips. Small hands - big phone.

Beamed from my Galaxy Note 3