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[Galaxy Note 3 General] *GalaxyDev*:
My remorse?

I paid too much for this phone as I've never did before (damn it bleeding edge specs) because I usually use 2 year contract phones or 1 year old unlocked phones. Though I don't regret it hahaha.

Smart scroll and smart stay have never worked for me, Ever. smart pause sometimes do, specially when showing it off to my friends :).

I bought the Exynos version cause I was afraid of the regional lock BUT I'm a flashaholic and I feel that it will never have enough development as my older phones, I9300 wasn't also the best in development. damn it Samsung put your **** together with the Exynos sources.

I'm in a county (Mexico) where the accessories including a screen protector are right now nonexistent and I'm afraid of scratches and want so bad an s cover.

And finally that it have made my perception of other phones as too little for my hands and this size as the perfect standard hahaha.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] avenging:
my only remorse is that I haven't bought it yet lol (just waiting for both versions to come down a little bit more in price) and I am regretting I sent my note 2 shattered glass for replacement in an unauthorized samsung or samsung reseller store. The replacement glass cover just doesnt work the same as the original grrrr
[Galaxy Note 3 General] phi11yphan:
I've owned a lot of cell phones since '95, and I never pre-ordered one... until the Note 3. That's how hyped I was. My old-school of thought on phones preferred the "try then buy" approach; but the 1080p screen, larger form factor, promised battery longevity, 3gb RAM, and infrared sensor for TV remote seemed like a no brainer, since I was coming from the smaller HOXL battery hog with no removable battery.

Where it makes financial sense, I seek the latest tech innovation to meet my needs. It's hard for anyone to argue that the Note 3 isn't the hottest Android tech innovation available to US consumers right now.

Anyway, this thread is about buyer's remorse: have it or not. The OP is servicing those who feel they may have been let down by a sizable purchase and now want to vent, those who can confirm they have no remorse and gladly wish to share their experience, and those who are still deciding on the device. And for that service, I thank the community.

I provided my initial thoughts on the topic here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46296150 This is an update after a few more days of tinkering.

The battery life is not what I hoped it would be; but I did load a bunch of potentially-draining crap by now. So I'm using Juice Defender + Battery Doctor + Profile Scheduler to get me through an 18-hour day, in addition to the stock power saving feature. That and other settings. Like, I didn't really need push notification frequency.

I'm still toying with free keyboards I like.

Magazine is different than Blinkfeed. Not sure I like it yet.

Tweaks will really bring out the N3's capabilities. For now, too many features are locked or not configurable.

Eye-monitoring features are ok, but I don't use them.

Minor annoyances, like bluetooth prompt to choose between multiple paired devices - when only 1 device is in proximity.

So, I am happy with my purchase ($350 USD)... but I do still feel a slight bit of remorse. That is mostly because I'm waiting to root and flash a better ROM. The N3 hardware/specs make it a largely superior Android as far as video and processing capabilities. I miss my HOXL, but I'm sure the right ROM will quickly make me forget that.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wilflare:
hearing about LG G2 KnockOn gesture (Tap to wake) and fantastic battery life, I do regret a little
[Galaxy Note 3 General] freebeerz:
Coming from a Note 2 with a custom ROM (Omega), I regret having bought the Note 3 so early and I think I should have waited a bit more to hear more feedback about the hardware and whether the software improves:

At the moment I still use my Note 2 as my main phone as I haven't rooted the N3 yet. I am still waiting to see if a non-void-warranty root method becomes available (it looks promising: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2479952)

I couldn't go back to a non-rooted Android with ads, not being able to fully use tasker, TB, a debian chroot, etc.

The Touchwiz "improvements" look good on paper but they're often poorly implemented. Air command and the "draw floating window" thing for example would be great if you could invoke them with your finger as well as the pen. It's a shame they don't make TW more customizable.

Hardware-wise, compared to the Note 2, the Note 3 speaker is quite bad and the phone seems to sometimes get hot really quickly when doing anything slightly cpu or gpu intensive. The speaker isn't a deal breaker for me but the phone getting quite hot doesn't inspire me with confidence in the hardware... Maybe it's normal with high-end chips, although the Note 2 never got that hot.

Some people are also complaining about battery life. My N3 seems ok in that respect but I haven't used it enough to tell (still waiting for "safe" root to make the switch!).

Besides these caveats, the N3 improves a lot on the N2 at least on these points:

- Fantastic screen, better resolution (super crisp maps and text, great for reading ebooks!), and it really looks bigger than the N2 (smaller bezel helps)

- Lighter phone, only 20g but it's noticeably lighter

- Everything super fast, for example Google Earth or Sygic on the N2 can stutter a bit when zooming, but very smooth on the N3

- Lots of free storage (32gb model)

So for people who are hesitating about buying it, I'd say that you should still wait a bit longer if you don't stand non-rooted Android and want to keep the warranty. And if for you the speaker is important, beware you'll be disappointed if coming from a N2 at least...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AllGamer:
I don't know about you, but honestly this phone is perfect in every way, both software and hardware, even the way how they split it up into different markets.

I can't really complain about the accessories, as they are in the way over mail

so, if there is anything to complain about, is only the delay of the shipping. :good:

... On the other hand... I do have a major beef about the damn KNOX, but that's not the Phone / OS fault, just a piece of crapware that thankfully can be removed and/or disabled on demand.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lmike6453:
I was worried about KNOX until seeing that root doesn't trip the KNOX's flash counter and you can freeze/remove all of the software
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Bit of remorse Samsung are apparently bringing S5 to January release date and thankfully will be premium build. Finally samsung have realised you can't keep selling cheap plastic phones, people will not buy forever. Actually wish I had waited HTC max looks beautiful and screen is bigger.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bruce16878:
The note 3 spen tip's contact is miles better in any writing angles but seem fragile. That could be the reason why they include quite a amount of replacement tips out of the box.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dr.m0x:
The problem with the s5 is that it will be about the same size as the s4 and s3. That and it won't have a pen. Note 4 will be my next phone but each to their own.

Sent from my SM-N9005 now Free
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fulvian:
SM-N9005

Just bought last Saturday, my remorse so far:

- Wish it had even bigger battery, surely this lasts longer than all my previous Android devices (Xperia Z, S3, RAZR, S2) but I was expecting more.

- Wish it didn't have capacitive & home buttons (for less footprint).

- Heavy

Some annoyances / Haven't figured out how / Bugs

- I can't seem to do Back / Home with the S Pen? How?

- Screen times out very quickly regardless of what I set in Settings

- USB3 charging port is a gimmick or just not compatible with my PC, I connected it to my PC's native USB3 port and it was charging slowly like typical USB charging. Connected it to wall socket and it took 2.5 hours to fully charge, definitely not fast at all.

- LED turns itself off in some circumstances, i.e.: when charging and there's new notification, it turns itself off.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] avenging:
this is just a rumor, i highly doubt it.

I tried the demo units both white and black and the back cover is really nice. I had a hard time with the one-hand thingy though but hopefully the learning curve on this wont be so bad.

But OMG that screen...... utter magnificence..... and the 4K video recording is very crisp too
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bruce16878:
Home button is a physical button need pressed to trigger a physical contact, back and menu is responsive to spen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Knock-on, insane battery life and a nicer screen imo makes the G2 a very formidable opponent to this phone, even though the G2 isn't really in the phablet category.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wilflare:
I sure hope the KnockOn gestures and the battery life optimizations can be brought to the Note 3 somehow..

hmm nicer screen? how?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
I have used both the GN3 and the LG G2 and although the G2 is nice. I have both in my hands at the same time and if you use something like calendar or a spread sheet on a GN3 and then look at it on the G2 you notice the difference very easily. Same goes for any PDF doc or if you use remote desktop in your daily work flow...

It is a very different experience due to screen real estate. That's in my opinion.

YMMV
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PrestonP:
Not really any remorse, except that sometimes the devices freezes,but this could be also the fault of some apps I use. For me the note 3 was quite a big change. I had a desire Hd before and after that device was broken I used an old iPhone 4. That's probably the reason why I am very happy with the note 3 and have not much to complain.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] drpal181:
I would have to say that I could not get the 64gb device memory version. I would wish Samsung stop advertising this paper tiger.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] avenging:
they will probably release it in a couple of months...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PrestonP:
Forgot to add: I am a little bit disappointed about the front camera under low light conditions. The results are way to dark.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I agree. The G2's camera also came in fourth (the N3 was second) in GSMArena's camera shoot-out. And while I don't consider the G2's rear-facing controls a show-stopper they make it very difficult to use when docked or in a car mount for navigation. From a display perspective the G2 was pretty far behind the One in outdoor legibility but equal in all other areas based on GSMArena's comparison of the two phones. So the G2's got a great LCD panel but according to GSMArena and DisplayMate the N3's got the best and brightest AMOLED panel ever made. Its low reflectance makes it a joy to use in bright light. The N3 does have some features that replicate Knock-on. You can unlock the phone when it's sleeping by saying "Hi Galaxy" and that command is available any time the phones being used also. Great when it's docked or sitting next to you idle. You can also touch the display anywhere to stop/snooze alarms, calendar events and timer alerts, and to accept/reject incoming calls. LG and Sony are the only "sure to survive" competitors to Samsung and the G2 is a great effort on LG's part. If the Note's productivity features (and their need for more real estate) weren't so important to me I'd consider a G2.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
I have ZERO comolaints about this Note 3, Not a single one. Its buttery smooth, nothing like the S4 was. Great battery life, nice size screen, very light and thin for its size and therefore pretty easy to handle. Im gonna try the G2 for awhile and if I dont like it ill be back with the Note3. But its a champ.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Concur with everything you stated above. I think the "real" difference is with the users of this device.

We have some folks who are

Multi Media

user's

We have some that are

Power

user's

We have some that

Social Media

user's

We have regular

Consumer

user's

And finally

Prosumer

user's

And I think the main disconnect is that the Note 3 may not be the best device for all of these types and variations in users.

The G2 maybe a much better device for certian type of user

As is the GS4, the Iphone 5S, the HTC One, Sony Xperia, Nokia 1020 etc..

It's up to the user to figure out which device that best fits their day to day needs..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
It lags like hell one issue which samsung have never managed to shake off. It shouldn't as it's a beast it must be touchwiz.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
What phone are you comparing it to in terms of lag??

Also the stock OS could be lighter...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
HTC one
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
In any particular program or just an an overall OS?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Overall
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
"It lags like hell" isn't very descriptive. Where? When? How often? One of the "lag police" posted a YouTube video of the N3 lagging when scrolling Play. Guess what? It was the app caching a slew of pictures in the background while the OP was scrolling down faster than the pictures could load/cache. My N2 and I'm guessing any device would run in to the same issue.

There's some "lag" if you want to call it that in some of the heavier stock apps like S Note, Scrapbook, and manipulating data across multiple open multiview windows. But guess what? No other device even offers that functionality to compare against. If my choice is a "spinning wheel" or a couple of millisecond delay in apps that make me productive or not having them so I can claim a "lag free" phone I'd pick the former without question.

How much time does the average smartphone user spend transitioning? 5%? 10% on the high-end? I care more about what I can do in apps where I spend 95% of my time than I do about millisecond delays moving between them. I think people hung up on lag spend way too much time playing with their phones rather than using them to actually do anything.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
The only thing I can comment on is that if you run the phone stock without adding a bunch of older apps it seems smooth, thats in my experience so far. But once you start adding older apps it does seem to have hiccups etc. So I can't really argue with that statement overall. It's not reasonable to have people not transfer app's, they use or love or paid for. I also believe the S-Pen functionality and the weight of the program has a lot to do with some lag as well, but then again the One doesn't have a Pen feature or the size I am needing to make my daily workflow better.

I am starting to wonder how often apps get optimized for newer phones, especially older apps by their developers. Different story for a different day.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Nicer as in whites are actually white. When I put my G2 next to my S4 at the time and most recently when I put it next to a Note 3 at an AT&T store, it was shocking how bad the whites looked on the Samsung phones. It was embarrassing actually.

No disrespect, but I can't see you considering another phone if it's not made by Samsung. You seem way too loyal to Samsung to me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
It's just a shame touchwiz seems to bog down the system so much. The dialer and contacts app, for instance, is extremely laggy and this does affect general usage enough to annoy me or put off people who are used to smoother phones. Even the HTC One S absolutely trumps it in this department and I don't really fancy using a separate dialer app.

At the end of the day it is quite a shame that Samsung can't refine/optimise touchwiz better to run buttery smooth on a processor as powerful as this. I have always prefered HTC Sense and this seems to have become much more fluid in recent years whereas touchwiz still bogs things down.

You list all the extra functions of the Note, but there's no reason why Samsung cant improve on the fluidity and get it optimise everything to run buttery smooth on such a beasty processor.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
Lag Daily in every basic function messaging, home button, phone. Not going to apologies for expecting more from one of the most expensive smartphones out there.

I'm not measuring lag by your standards nor bought it for your use but mine.

You might be easily pleased but for me that second more waiting is simple lag, no excuses no bs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Mine isn't. And I'm not saying that because I'm a fanboi. The Contact app opens quickly, scrolls fluidly, opens and closes individual contacts fast (I have hundreds), and is responsive when I phone or MMS someone from their contact page. There is lag when the display's off because it's near your ear and the time it reiliuminates so you can end the call. But c'est la vie. You don't buy a phone for a single feature you buy it for the sum of its parts. And the N3's parts are pretty pleasing; at least to me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
I can't argue with that too much. However it's Samsungs weakness which has plagued them for years. Why Samsung doesn't eradicate this issue? Either it's not a priorty or they are not able to!

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 PM ----------

Perhaps your expectations are not so high. Contacts certainly don't open quickly
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the problem with your argument. There aren't that many complaints of lag in the N3 forum(s). Within a week of its release the SGS4 forum(s) were filled with lag examples and stories and discussion of how subsequent updates affected the phone's fluidity. I know for a fact that some people that have recently commented in this thread about their satisfaction with the N3 were former SGS4 owners. Without even owning one, just from the volume of posts from different types of XDA users, I'd be pretty comfortable saying the SGS4 suffered/suffers a lag problem. By the small amount of people that share your view I'd say your standards may be higher than others here. And that's fine but making sweeping statements like the N3 suffers from "lag everywhere" isn't backed up by more than a handful of others (so far) that share that view. My N3 is quantum leaps faster than my N2 but then again I may suffer from low standards compared to yours.

People should buy what makes them happy. And no one here is saying the N3 is the perfect phone for everyone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex---1:
I've had my note for just over 2 weeks now and have to say, coming from the galaxy S to the Galaxy S3 to the note 3, the note is by far the best Samsung have done.

There are only a few things I don't like so far.....

1 - The camera - 1: Why is it limited to 9mp for a full screen shot?! Why can't 13mp be used? 2: In low light the camera is truly awful, I have a 2mp camera on my ancient Nokia E63 that takes better pictures than this thing.

2 - The bloatware - As far as I'm concerned, if you pay £600 for a device, you expect to have complete 100% control of what is and isn't on it. Some of the Samsung apps I like and will use but I would at least like the option to completely remove the ones I don't, should I wish - It's MY device after all, I'm not a fan of this 'Apple' controlling.

3 - No hide apps option? - On my S3 I could at least hide the bloatware so it wasn't in my app draw, I really liked this feature and it's not on the note 3 for some reason. All I can do to hide them is shove them in a folder which is still too messy IMO. Hopefully this can be added through a software update though.

4: The plastic bezel - I haven't been that bothered by Samsungs choice of plastic in their devices before but the sides on this phone do look especially cheap and seem to scratch ridiculously easy - It just looks tacky.

Luckily my speakers are surprisingly good and my home button is centered, doesn't wobble around and look wonky (the S3 suffered from this badly)

Overall I'm pretty happy with it though and will probably keep it for the next two years or so :)

EDIT: I also love the fact that Samsung FINALLY seem to have resolved most of the lag that came from Touchwiz, I don't know if this is because of the S800 being such a beast or Samsung actually optimising their software. Either way, no more weather widget redraws, contacts/messaging lag - Happy days!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
That is weird that Samsung removed that feature. It's also weird they removed the Settings widget that used to allow you to create individual links for commonly used settings (EG: Wi-Fi, Data, Display, etc.). I put them all in a "Settings" folder and liked having quick access to them. I can make individual links using third-party apps but since they are true widgets you can't put them in folders. You win a few, you lose a few. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
I think this is one of the issues if s4 is your standard bearer then i agree incomparision N3 is on speed. It's blisteringly fast however but when comparing to HTC one its slow.

Don't get me wrong i do like my note 3 but this post was created to highlight what really sucks on this phone and N3 lag sucks. I honestly didn't expect it to when i read the specs however it does.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
I have my contacts linked to facebook and the pics, so maybe that contributes slightly. But even so, my old HTC One S is buttery smooth when scrolling through contacts in comparison to Touchwiz. Ditto Nexus 4. If you think its fast on touchwiz then it sounds to me like you haven't tried recent HTC phones, or the Nexus 4 or, dare I say, an iPhone.

I'm not comparing the sum of its parts.. I'm suggesting the lag sucks and doesn't need to be there.

In essense, I want the Sense UI with TouchWiz features and Spen but HTC One build quality but with a removable battery and sd card slot and big screen :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's me playing with my contacts from 15 minutes ago. Do you guys consider what's shown "laggy?" Do your contacts behave the same way? I have Exchange, Facebook, and LinkedIn all connected in the Contacts app.

[YOUTUBE]XUoPEXzRQFY[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
Nope, and I have since remembered this is a note 3 forum :D For some reason I thought this was about the Note II when I mentioned lag. I blame tapatalk and my not paying attention.

On the plus side, this suggests the Note III sorts out some of the lag issues of the II....

Now to hope the Samsung official update transfers this along to the Note II... or to upgrade to Note III :what:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Was with you until you mentioned HTC One build quality...... Nope... It's all subjective though.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
Hmmm
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I came from a N2 and when I say the performance difference is huge I'm not blowing smoke. I'm not saying there aren't spinning wheels and delays in certain very specific situations but, TW or not, overall, I can't imagine anything being that much faster than the N3. At least not fast enough to say it's a reason to skip the N3 and/or buy something else.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
Im still trying to decide.. the hassle of rooting (mainly for custom multiwindow apps) and what-not are a little daunting and it seemed easier to stick with what I have. I'm not on contract so can move on whenever, but I did get the N7105 to future proof it. Maybe the upgrade is more substantial than I thought?

That's why I came here, to help decide what to do. Not sure I have much faith in Samsung providing a smooth and feature packed update for the Note II, and unfortunately cannot test the leak as its not available for the LTE version.

How does snote perform compared to Note II? Similarly, for instance, is the scrolling choppy when scrolling down the list of apps when you click on the "share" button within another app?

*Edit* Blimey - look how bad my network signal is :D :o :what: