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[G2 General] d.cortez:
Decided to try my friends Note 3 while at&t works though my G2 phone issues/case. as an FYI, I’m probably not a typical smartphone user by today’s standards – average 2,000+ minutes in monthly calls, don’t play games, but I surf the web, watch videos and listen to music. my “early” N3 observations on the N3 are below:

Funny, that I keep reaching for the back on the N3 to manage volume & power and that I’m “knock-knocking” to turn the screen on/off. Seems natural after just 3 weeks.

No problems holding/accessing keys, apps, etc. with the N3. the squared/flat edges and slightly thinner build makes it easier to hold relative to my (now former) N2. G2 feels much better in my hand, easier to hold and easier to maneuver.

With my standard apps and configuration, overall responsiveness is consistent between both devices. Some things open faster on the N3 (email app) vs the G2 (email app) and vice-versa.

With my eyes/sight, reading text, emails, web-browsing is easier on the N3 vs. G2; strictly due to size of the screen. G2 screen is better (to my eyes) out of the box vs the N3.

S-Pen is much better on the N3 vs N2. I used the S-Pen quite often on the N2 to sketch flow-charts, hardware/software diagrams sign docs, etc. I found the S-Pen feature very useful and convenient when needed (e.g., in meetings, short flights). That said, I had no problem adjusting to a non-styli device.

TouchWiz vs. LG’s UI: I don’t care for either one!! I think they look cartoonish… I prefer the stock Android look/theme with black backgrounds and holo blue accents.

A microSD slot on the N3 is a plus, didn’t realize how much I missed it. :)

As a junior-amateur photographer, lol, camera on the N3 seems better for video, G2 for still shots. I can manage with either. if camera is important, G2 seems better (on the assumption you take more stills vs video)

To my ears, the speakerphone and external speaker on the N3 is louder and clearer than my G2. Notification tones are louder and sound fuller vs. the same (tones) used on my G2. This is in stock configuration, no tweaks.

To my ears, call clarity, volume and loudness on the handset, bluetooth and speakerphone is noticeably improved/better vs. my G2. I’ve had inconsistent call clarity/quality and on about 50% of my G2 calls; people on the other end say I sound muffled or they can't hear/understand me. I’ve had zero complaints – from the same people – when using the N3. Also seems there’s more headroom with volume on the N3 vs G2.

Battery life seems relatively consistent between both devices in my short time with the N3.

In summary, the G2 does almost everything that the N3 does except when it comes to phone features, e.g., call quality, clarity and loudness. This is very important (to me) when you average over 2,000 cell minutes a month. The N3 is the clear winner to my ears. If I didn’t have G2 phone issues, the G2 would be my preferred device. i'm on the fence but leaning toward the N3 (or another device with comparable specs) right now. (and hoping that at&t can solve my G2 issue!)
[G2 General] harrychimp:
Excellent summary which mainly echoes my feelings. I hope to have a Note 3 in my hands tomorrow morning when I return the G2.

No knock on the G2. I need a phone to make calls sound clearly on both the receiver and speakerphone.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Thanks for the summary and sorry to quote the whole post guys lol. Question, what are those issues youre talking about?
[G2 General] d.cortez:
@barondebxl, you can read about my G2 call quality issues here. [apologies to other readers for going off topic].
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Thanks. That sucks, hopefully it'll get sorted out for u.

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Well i just sold my note 3, still have it till monday to use it before shipping it ! Gonna order the G2 now. Very excited!
[G2 General] surge27:
I'm really torn on these 2 devices. I may go back to G2. Only thing that kind of bugs me is the brightness and camera on the Note 3. It's great but when compared to the G2...noticeable drop off.
[G2 General] :
G2 for me as the Note 3 was a little too big and screen brightness was on the low side. G2 ticks all the boxes for me and the screen is 2nd to none, camera takes some great shots and battery life is top notch.
[G2 General] ashkan_mc:
Go for G2 ... 2 days ago I went to a store and worked a bit with note 3 and I found it very lazy and laggy, I mean I could not believe it has snapdragon 800 with 3 gig ddr3 ram.

I am sure it is all because of the crapware samsung ports on pure android for spen and so on

But its display was super bright and nice and it is not too big, I mean you can easily handle it with one hand
[G2 General] 20degrees:
You must have hands the size of LeBron.
[G2 General] surge27:
My pros and cons of G2 and Note 3

I left UI and battery life out of this because, imo, they're a wash between these two devices. I like the UI on both and I havent experienced lag. Battery life is very similar. Also, development will be plenty for both.

Opinions are based on stock experience

G2 Pros

Big screen on compact footprint

Hands down best camera for Android

Buttons on back

Easy to hold in hand

G2 Cons:

LG is horrible at updates AND releasing sources

lack of expandable storage. Not a big deal just nitpicking on this one.

Speaker loudness leaves a lot to be desired but thankfully a mod is available

Resale value is horrible for a beast of a device. most likely because it being close to a Nexus device

Notification shade sucks but again...thanks to mods, it can be changed to your liking

Note 3 Pros

Screen real estate for media consumption

removable battery

expandable storage

Resale value is good

Note 3 Cons:

Device is not easy for one-handed use can can be annoing at times. Again not a big deal just nitpicking.

No OIS. Only saying this because of the G2. Camera is excellent otherwise.

Can't think of any more at the moment...

Please feel free to pitch in your opinions. I'd like to hear them. These are just thoughts off the top of my head. If I sound all over the place, probably due to lack of sleep. Also, because I can't make up my damn mind about which to keep lol. And no, can't keep both.(I wish I could)
[G2 General] barondebxl:
I will have my G2 by tuesday hopefully. So I will give an in depth comparison between Both devices.
[G2 General] tomthedancingbug:
i returned the n3 for the same reason, my g2 sounds clearer both in speaker and mic functions, everyone said i sounded scratchy and distant with the n3

i suppose its down to qc on both companies part, i found that the g2 has better cell radios than both my n3's

:D
[G2 General] barondebxl:
He was saying that the Note 3 sounds better in terms of call quality, speakers and audio.
[G2 General] muhamet:
i think that LG will start whit suport whit flagship device.just look all that comercial.
[G2 General] tomthedancingbug:
and im saying the g2 sounds better and that i sold the note 3 for the same reasons he returned the g2
[G2 General] xyltha:
Seems this thread has beaten the horse to a pulp but I will have to chime in as well... Wall of boring text, read at your peril.

Nearly every fault one might have with either phone can be addressed with an app from the play store or rooting and rom'ing etc.

If you can't fit it in your pocket comfortably, then you just have to say no to the note 3. That's the boat I'm in. I would have picked up the note 3 without a doubt if I could carry it the way I'm used to. I'm not going to use a fanny pack or man purse or baggy pants yo.

Specs wise they are both top of the line currently and the cameras are close enough in quality that they get the job done, for a cell phone. There will be enough development for both to satisfy your need for a custom rom and Kitkat, apparently, will help keep things up to date for awhile for any modern phone. So LG or Samsung lagging on updates won't be a big deal.

Personally, it's come down to the large but still comfy screen/body size, sharp and bright display, long battery life, clean form with no buttons on the side, knock-on, and the stock UI actually being pretty good (with a few minor tweaks). There are no killer features on another phone that is a must have and that has the good things this phone has. I'm certain other phones will have a knock-on feature soon and battery life is getting better with all the phones. Essentially the coming phones and the 2014+ phones will catch and surpass the G2 in all of the things the G2 does well but if they have buttons on the side and everything else being equal, I'm going to prefer the G2. It's really elegant to not have 'door handles' on my sleek, racy phone.

Last point. The buttons on the back could surely be tweaked and improved in some fashion but having them on the back isn't a negative. Just how much pressure it takes to push it with one hand while holding with your other fingers is a bit tricky. And every once in awhile you have to search for a second to make sure you're pressing where you want to, but that's really a minor thing because you are almost always using knock-on to turn it on anyway. I'm hoping that LG keeps with the buttons on the back since it really is a good idea even if it turns out it never catches on with the consumers. I would hate to have to go back to the 'normal' and in my opinion, inferior way. And if LG doesn't continue to have no buttons on the side then there will be no reason to stay with LG since they will be just like every other phone on the market.

p.s. I find myself using Swipe Aside more and more and using the floating app multi-tasking system as well. Sure it's pretty easy to get to recent apps the old traditional way, but sometimes Swipe Aside and (that other one I don't remember the name of) are simply the superior way to get it done. *time to log off the internet*
[G2 General] montyf:
C-A-T-S cats cats cats
[G2 General] americasteam:
Awesome ^^^^
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Anyone here have a Note 3 and considering a G2? Or anyone have both?

If so, shoot me a PM.
[G2 General] karkid:
I have Both. Shoot me a PM if you have any questions. I plan on making a video soon comparing the two devices.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Sent.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Which one do u prefer?
[G2 General] surge27:
Just reporting back. Ended up exchanging the Note 3 for a G2. G2 is just a more versatile device for me and the camera was the nail in the coffin. Note 3 is a great device but not as practical as the G2 imo. Plus, knowing the Nexus will be most likely be based mostly.on the G2...can't wait for aosp roms
[G2 General] vegetaleb:
From the youtube videos it looks like Note 3 is better in sunlight (automatic brightness).

From what I understood, G2 has no aptx meaning it will give very nice music quality for non-aptx devices and bad results with aptx ready devices like HTC Stereoclip.

This + the fact that we won't have 32gb soon in my country makes the Note 3 a better choice
[G2 General] carakamuda:
On the contrary, I've been using G2 with non aptx bluetooth equipment such as Bose AE2W, lifetron drumbass BT and Sony BT mini compo with good results. I also use LG HBS-730 aptx stereo headset with good results, in fact this headset came as a bonus for buying the G2 during the launch event.
[G2 General] surge27:
In my experience, the Note 3 is not better in sunlight. Only way it was if it was full brightness. G2 on auto was way brighter

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@karkid, thanks for the input as several will look to comments like yours when debating on the G2 and Note 3.'

Only one thing I can say...be patient when talking about custom roms.

The Optimus G has lots of development and good devs. The same devs that gave us root for the G2 are the same that started the development for the Optimus G so patience is a virtue.
[G2 General] marshygeek:
Im going to have this G2 on December. You think at that time custom roms will be available? As for now what tweaks/mod do we have? :)
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ok guys, now I have the Note 3 in my head. I'm really curious to give it a try.

But if I did, I wouldn't get rid of my G2 until I was sure.

Anyone else curious?
[G2 General] surge27:
You'll like it a lot. I know i did but in the end...make sure u keep the one you'll be happy with. Unless u have extra cash to keep both

Went back to G2.better daily driver
[G2 General] JKDEM85:
Anyone else curious?

I had (and loved) a g2 for about 10 days. The lure of the n3 pulled me in though. I am still thinking about going back as I miss certain aspects of the g2 like the buttery smoothness of the screen, but overall the n3 is keeping me happy. The main reason is the multitasking and I mean true multitasking. Go the store and test a n3. Open two apps in split window, then use the spen to draw a pen Window and place the calculator in it, then draw another app , then another.....The n3 just keeps on ticking and you can just do so much on the device. It's truly amazing and the closest thing to a true desktop pc. For me this is what I want in a device but can see others who might not.

The sPen is way way better than in the n2 and the corresponding apps work with it and are less gimicky. I actually used sNote for taking presentation notes and for the first time it actually was as close to a real paper experience as possible. While there are still gimicks samsung seemed to focus on the apps that actually make you more productive rather then the gimmicky ones that were pointless and just for showroom sales and commercials. Lastly the n3 build quality is much better than the n2 was, amazing what some textured plastic and fake stitching can do. The g2 was too shiny / slimy. If the g2 had a stylus and the nexus 5 back I'd be all over it.
[G2 General] AndroidInsanity:
Right guys. I had my note 3 for just over a week before realising it was simply too big. So as I mentioned earlier in the thread I traded it for the LG G2. And I do miss the obvious stuff. (SD card. Removable battery) but this is seriously the best phone I've ever purchased! Big screen that's easy to hold. Good rear and front cameras, super fast, great battery and just a very good looking phone! Just waiting for ROM support now. And maybe one day I'll definitely get into ROM building :)
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
I love the dual Windows on the N3. For instance you can run maps / navigation in one and a music or podcast player in another while driving.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] barondebxl:
True indeed. The multitasking of the Note 3 is insane to say the least. Open multi window and have multiple windows in the background plus open like 4 pen windows floating on top of multi window and no lag whatsoever. With that being said I NEVER use it. I just used it today for the first time just to see what this phone is really capable of and because i have to ship it tomorrow so wanted to abuse it before i miss it. But personally i have no use of the S pen, in fact i force myself to use it just cause i can. But even multi window i dont use.

If you're a big productivity person, need to multitask, have lots of use for the S pen then the Note 3 is by far (and i mean nothing comes even close to it) the best phone out there. But me? I dont use a 100th of the potential of that phone thats why i think the G2 will be a better fit for me. But either way whether someone uses the Note 3 features or not, it is still a remarkable device. Best Samsung mobile device.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
I had the G2 for about a week and absolutely loved it. It did, however, have a few problems. I noticed that no matter what I tried, Google Services, was always at the top of my battery usage. Sometimes it affected the stats, sometimes it didn't. Speaking of the battery, it did some weird things that I can't understand. I would charge it to 100% and take it off the charger. It would then drop incredibly fast, i.e. 100 to 73 in 5 hours with NO usuage, just standby. If I plugged it back in and recharged it back to 100 then it would sit at 100 for like 8 hours in standby.

Then sometimes it would discharge really fast and all I had to do was reboot it and it would stop. I used apps to check for wakelocks and nothing was out of the ordinary. It was all really strange.

The screen was amazing on the G2. Best of any phone I've ever used or seen. Loved the small bezels. I did see some lag from time to time. There was never any lag on the Optimus G Pro whenever I played with it in the store. The lockscreen effects are really cool on LG devices as are all the extra goodies throughout the UI

The thing that bugged me the most about the G2 was the camera. It did take good pictures but it was EXTREMELY slow. It took forever to auto focus and forever to snap the shot. It didn't seem like there was any reason for it to be that slow.

So I returned the G2 after watching some Note 3 reviews. I had the original Note and loved it. I skipped the Note 2. I didn't really care for the design. The Note and Note 3 have that squarish look. The Note 2 was too rounded. I missed the S-Pen functionality. I also loved the camera on the S4. To me, it seems to take the best looking pictures out of any smartphone. The Note 3 has that same exact camera.

I thought I would see the same lag on the Note 3 as on the S4 but the Note 3 is lag free for me. None at all. Everything, including Touchwiz, flies.

I bought the T-Mobile Note 3 and unlocked it to use my AT&T sim because the Note 3 on AT&T has a locked bootloader. It was very easy to unlock with Chainfire's region lock app.

I also bought the Galaxy Gear. I was skeptical on that after reading some of the reviews. It's actually a pretty handy device. I use it all the time. I think the reviewers were a little too harsh. It's a nice accessory to a great smartphone.

The Note 3 has change my mind about Touchwiz. I think it's more because of Android 4.3. 4.2.2 wasn't that great on any device. If the G2 had 4.3, I think it would fly. That's another reason for the return. I haven't heard anything about the G2 getting 4.3 anytime soon. Being the powerhouse and flagship that it is, it's odd that it didn't release with 4.3.

I hope this helps a little..
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well, I took the plunge. I was following an auction on eBay were the guy was asking for $685 buy it now plus $10 shipping. It didn't sell.

So I had nothing to lose and offered him $585. He declined. Then I got him down to $635 and I would pay shipping. That was too much for me.

Long story short, I got him down to $600 shipped to my door. I think it's a good deal and I will have it by Friday.

I am going to do extensive side by side testing with my G2 before I make a final decision. Wish me luck!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Well congrats to you and good luck! Thats a great deal for the Note 3.

I should have my G2 wednesday, I cant wait!

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The G2 lags? Thats bad.
[G2 General] aznmode:
You guys must be confusing the hell out of prospective buyers of either device. Lol. All good points.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Yea a little bit in a few places I noticed it.
[G2 General] carakamuda:
The lags are very minimal and I barely notice it. Almost all of the time it operates smoothly without any lag. I have the clear RAM widget installed in the home screen and I frequently use it.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks man! We are going in different directions lol.

I'm very curious to see what you think of the G2 compared to the Note 3.

If I get the Note 3 by Friday which is what this guy is saying, I will decide which one to keep by Monday.
[G2 General] unheady:
This thread is great. Interesting to see all the comparisons.

Would anyone here still get the N3 if you weren't planning on using the spen? The screen size and ram have me sold. I never had a Note and would hate to be forced to use the spen for basic functions...Much happier using my fingers!
[G2 General] barondebxl:
This is disappointing.
[G2 General] surge27:
I never noticed lag.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Nice. Its crazy cause not a single one reviewer has reported lag, I watched all the main reviews (anandtech, gsm arena, phonearena, phone dog, technobufffalo, theverge, pocketnow..)on the contrary, they call it a beat but some users are reporting lag so utd a bit confusing. Oh well I guess ill find out soon enough!
[G2 General] evolishesh:
Well, I bought the LG g2 yesterday to replace my note 2. And let me say that this phone at 1st it was working nice and smooth, but now it's slow and it lags a lot.. So, I'm going to return it.. Plus it was a big mistake to think that it was going to replace my note 2
[G2 General] carakamuda:
I've been using G2 for a few weeks now and I've installed so many apps.

It doesn't feel that the G2 is getting slower. I got the international version, though.
[G2 General] evolishesh:
I don't understand, but I've got the Verizon version and it lags a lot. The camera, is very slow to focus and to capture pictures. I even try to speed up the windows animation, and still nothing..
[G2 General] aznmode:
What is your ram usage? Something might be taking up too much of ram. Maybe try a factory reset? Unless it is a Verizon thing. I have Tmobile and mine lags here and there but it's not a lot.
[G2 General] Lesser Version:
You either have a defective phone or an app is eating up your ram. I have a VZW version and have had zero lag since day one. With that in mind, I am rooted and have debloated the phone, but even stock was smooth. Good luck
[G2 General] Cyko.Tech67:
In terms of software these two phones are virtually the same, your going to see difference in performance due to the bogging down of touchwiz on the note 3, in this case if you want a smoother expierence, ive noticed that the g2 runs much smoother than the note 3 playing with the two... another thing to keep in mind is that you might think youll use the s-pen alot and alot of samsung note users rarely ever use it... however that is different for everyone, also if your going on a two year contract like me you might want to consider the g2 alittle more in terms of it will last a tad longer, on the note 3 you have a hard keys, on the other hand with the g2 you have the knock on feature and soft keys therefore to power on your display will never break and have very little chance of having hardware issues... i dont know if anyone else has realized this but if you put alittle force behind the push of the screen on the g2 you do see waves in the ips display as you do on non-touch screen computer monitors and tv's just realized this yesterday looking at it from an angle not sure if it will effect the g2 at a later time due to it not being out for very long, i guess only time will tell... but i had the same conflict between the two phones and i am going with the g2... really hope this helped you (:
[G2 General] barondebxl:
There is no "bogging down touchwiz" on the Note 3, it flies through everything. Not a hint of a lag nowhere. Im glad Samsung did put 3 GB of ram cause 2 Gigs would have certainly bogged it down since touchwiz is super heavy.

True, many do not use the S pen, i never did really but it does add great functionality. I think samsung did a great job at hiding the S pen, sometimes you even forget that its there. On a scale of 1 to 10 i give the Note 3 a 9.5 and im not exaggerating. The speakers could be better though.
[G2 General] evolishesh:
Thanks for the options guys. But I did do a factory reset, a day still does the same thing...