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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
How is it possible to hold this tab in portrait mode with those stupid hardware buttons located at where my left had is supposed to grip the tab?

I think this will be a turnoff for people who intend to use the tablet mainly for reading and annotating textbook, unless there is an option to disable hardware buttons while in portrait mode or completely disable them and replace them with software buttons with orientation.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
The alternative will be holding the tablet upside down with the left hand gripping the camera

btw this is the only issue holding me from buying this tab
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] fryguy18:
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] miloytyn:
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.

I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
It may be only me but I'm more comfortable holding the tab from the middle of the left side.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] miloytyn:
Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.

ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Han Solo 1:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.

I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.

EDIT:

I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
For me phone cover is more important since I drop it frequently unlike the tab
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Kimo377:
You are right about the back camera but the front one i use frequently for video calls.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] demz92:
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button!:confused: it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ckavvouras:
Say what you will but I think an inch bezel around the whole tablet is necessary, how else you plan on holding the thing if there is no room for your thumb. I could care less about what any isheep has to say about my tablet.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] gcappa:
thank god it has a thin bezel and a hard button. finally i'm convinced to buy a tablet.

I was holding of for years until there was one like this one. why dont you guys that want a thick bezel get one of the other dozen tablets that have the design you want. they have been out for years.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Itchiee:
While im not crazy about the idea I do have a Note 2 and already i'm use to them being there.

Actually I can see some benefits....

I'm sure you can disable the buttons or a program will come out that can.

In fact here is a rough draft on how to hack them...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=34247225&postcount=14
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Soryuu:
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.

Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.

What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] atg284:
I agree with this. Though I am not a huge fan of the physical buttons I really like that it has the extra screen real-estate.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] madsquabbles:
someone will mod it soon. i've actually gotten used to the buttons on my gn8. the only time hate em is when gaming. the rom I use has a mod to turn them off and only make them useable via spen. you'll get used to it too. you may never like it, but you can find a work around.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Stocklone:
As someone who owns this tablet the physical buttons are a huge step backwards. Why? That POS menu key. Coming from the original Note 10.1 it's ridiculous constantly hitting that menu button to find out if it has a menu available. Compare to the original Note 10.1 where menu options appear in the action bar. Samsung has completely ruined the tablet experience with their incredibly stupid design choices. This tablet is such a huge pain to navigate. Why can't somebody else offer a Wacom stylus on their 10" Android tablet? I wish Google would throw an S Pen'ish stylus on their Nexus 10 so I can rid myself of Samsung's incompetence. I've never had such a frustrating tech purchase.

I have a Note II with a physical menu key but it's not nearly as frustrating because everything is so close together. I feel like my hand is running a marathon with this tablet having to move all ovef the place to navigate the UI.

I love the S Pen. It works beautifully. The screen is gorgeous. It's not a brick like some other high resolution tablets. It's very powerful and fast. Why oh why did they throw hardware keys on this thing and muck everything up. I would gladly take the black bar on the bottom with home, task switch and back if I could.

The disable hardware keys mod cannot come fast enough for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] madsquabbles:
i'm not really diggin the physical buttons either. there's enough screen real estate to have the nav bar on the bottom. the home button is ok, but the menu and back have becoe more and more of a nuisance. i tolerate them on the gn8 b/c of the extra screen area i get plus using the soft nav buttons hack doesn't hide button properly in full screen video.

i can get use them being there on the note10 but i don't won't like them better than soft nav buttons. i hope if they hack it that it'll properly hide in full screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] gina$zanboti:
I haven't read the posts in this thread, but I wanted to comment that I happen to like the hard buttons. I'm right handed and hold it with my left like OP. I like that I can reach the option, home and return buttons (this is what you all mean by "hard buttons" right?) with my thumb. The design feels very intuitive and quite natural. I also recently found out that you can quickly access the task manager by holding down the home button. It will open up a menu similar to the menu that opened when you pressed the double rectangle button on the older model. The more time I spend with this device the more I love it. My mom is actually getting the new Note 3 so she's going to let me have her Note 2. I can finally get rid of this iphone 3 that came free with my contract. :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Itchiee:
I'm also finding it awesome holding left handed using my thumb on the buttons for reading and surfing.

I guess complain to Samsung and maybe they'll include the option to turn them off and use software buttons instead in a future update. There are hacks buried in these forums that will do this as well, but you'll need root to do some file manipulation. Coming from the Note 2 I'm kinda use to them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] atg284:
I'm actually really digging with it in portrait! I hold it with my right hand mainly and hit the physical back button with my left thumb. Makes for easy redditing ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ryangan:
Why won't the iPad 5 have a physical button? TouchID?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Rickgsx:
+1 I do the exact same thing...

...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] GitterDunn:
Personally, I am indifferent. lol

I like holding my tablets in portrait mode more than landscape. I don't like how the buttons are something I have to look out for when I turn it. I also don't like how the tablet doesn't look symetrical anymore.

But I do love the quick access the pysical buttons provide (as others just stated). But I really love the added screen realestate! On my last tablet, it drove me nuts seeing that huge black bar along the bottom with only 3 little buttons on it (and one of them wasn't even the menu button which was randomly placed depending which app you were using).

Either way, I got used to the buttons within a couple days and I (ultimately) prefer them. :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Ettepetje:
This issue (Portrait using left hand) is one of the very few I have with this years Note 10.1, or should I say: next years Note 10.1.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] john10101:
I completely hate soft buttons, I like having 3 physical buttons available to me at all time. its simple to hold my hand away from the buttons, but having them is well worth it. I really dont understand why they are getting rid of them on tablets.

Ive seen tablets where the menu button is missing. i dont see how you can use an android device without being able to press menu. The devs are not building these soft buttons into their apps, and they shouldnt need too. i dont want to waste screen real estate with big soft menu buttons.

i just dont see why people want them. Physical buttons are the way to go.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] natosports:
I have the same issue and came to this thread. I hold the tablet with my left hand with the Home button on the right. I use my right hand to browser or hold the Pen to write. But by default, the screen sets the portrait mode to have the Home button on the left hand side. I had to hold the device up and rotate it to my preference. I hope there is a way to set the default portrait mode.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] dt33:
You can disable capacity + Home buttons by activate accessibility settings interactive control and use like Handy Sof Keys for non rooted device for soft buttons. There are others soft keys with rooted devices. But latest firmware update make Handy Soft Keys unusable and need update for it to wortk again.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] GalaxyNotesTx:
Root and use LMT Pie control ...Its awesome!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Khazaad:
I had this same reaction going from a nexus 7 but it was simply due to the familiarity of holding it in portrait rather than loss of function; the 10.1 simply feels as natural in landscape as the N7 did in portrait and interestingly, I stopped "missing" the button orientation so much. I can totally see how this would be unacceptable to plenty of people though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] bruce16878:
Rooted and install gravity box in xposed framework.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] ps000000:
In-screen button like many brands also eat up screen space !!!!

But I don't like that hardware buttons too...

Pie-like control is my favorites !!!

I would prefer front-place stereo speaker too.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] lecorbusier:
Ultimate Dynamic Navbar should be fine, but requires root, of course. While not yet having rooted my Note, and rarely using my mobile in landscape mode, i installed UDN on my Huawei Mediapad, which already has a software navbar. In this case, UDN will appear above the stock navbar, which doesn't make much sense. UDN can work as an overlay, with auto-hide, not using up any screen space for apps.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] foo:
I hold the tablet on the camera side in order not to accidentally hit the HW buttons. That works perfect.

You can also take out the stylus on the top side then.

When I write in landscape mode, I even turn it upside down, so the HW buttons are on the top and my resting hand will not trigger any of them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] natosports:
That's what I do. But for certain apps, when they first open, they defaulted to a Portrait mode that is the other way around. So I had to rotate the screen to have the app display correctly. A bit annoyance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Hanson68:
I hold in from the corner instead of gripping it on the side. It's not great, but it will have to do.

The best solution would be to enable the buttons in landscape mode and then disable them in portrait with the soft buttons appearing on the bottom. But I don't feel like rooting and it's in landscape mode 90% of the time, so I just live with it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] dr.m0x:
Root, disable the back and menu buttons, install pie controls. Never had an issue since.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] RTbar:
is there any way to disable the soft keys in portrait only AND to have a navbar in portrait only? This would be perfect
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] lecorbusier:
With UDN the navbar is always there, but hidden, similar to the pie controls.

With Ultimate Rotation Control you can enforce autorotation in any direction, nowadays this works with ALL apps i know. One year ago, Shazam refused to tag in portrait mode and some app screens were somehow distorted.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jpl69:
Can you please guide us on how to do that ?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] dr.m0x:
Pie control - this is the one I use. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrolpro

There are other options such as gmd gesture control as well.

You could also try adding the line " qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" to build.prop. May or may not Enable the software navigation bar. Haven't tested on my P605 but works on other Samsung devices.

To disable the back, menu, and/or home keys:

Use root Explorer or similar to edit the file /system/usr/keylayout/generic.kl

Put a # in front of "key 139 menu" "key 158 back" and "key 172 home".

Save the file and reboot.

? Profit?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] jpl69:
Thanks!

I've already tried that, but it didn't work! But since i'm now stock on NC2 rom going to try that.

I use Button Savior and GMD. On my old tab used Ultimate Dynamic Navbar.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
What are the chances of the device getting rooted then? I noticed the GS4's bootloader was locked but it was able to be rooted. I don't need custom ROM's just root. Any answer would be appreciated.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
Bump
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
I would say the chances are pretty good that root will be achieved. You will just have to wait till an exploit is found. You could do what I did and get the tmobile version which already has a custom recovery where you can flash a rooted stock rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lknhiayi:
Is the T-Mobile one has att LTE band ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
According to the FCC lab report, yes it does.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
But there is no real world confirmation yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
That is correct. No one knows for sure yet. All we know is that it has the correct radio and bands. Hopefully it will work the same as the S4.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
After some more digging it looks like the write protection enabled only applies to the bootloaders and other lower level partitions, which means we might be able to flash the boot/recovery/modem partitions still. However, it WILL trip the Knox flags, which means the warranty is void and will NOT be able to run any Knox apps.

None of these things bother me since AT&T doesn't know about any of this stuff and Knox isn't useful to me.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
Where you able to verify this using the att build? In other words, do u know for fact that the bootloader if locked?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
As I stated in this thread;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2458928

ODIN MODE

PRODUCT NAME: SM-N900A

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0

KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0

QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)

WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

With that, even the Galaxy S3 shows QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE after it is unlocked, and WRITE PROTECTION: Enable applies to the bootloaders and other sensitive partitions.

I would assume we can flash boot/recovery/modem.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
Knox kernel thats new. We are screwed. Better off getting the Rogers/Tmobile version(most prbly wont be locked)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
Ya, it seems like the kernel is encrypted, I have been unable to rip it apart with any current methods.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
So basically we can root the device but the possibility of flashing new ROMS and kernel's will be extremely difficult?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohan_kr:
Yup..if the old root exploit still works (if it does not, then pretty much toast). The bootloader *cannot* be replaced yet (even in S4), if you were lucky and had the earlier bootloader then you could "loki" run custom roms/recoveries. Otherwise the only option appears to be the "kexec" type method (safestrap), yuk..get one without a bootloader lock ;) (hoping T-MO does not lock it and allows unsigned kernels and recoveries)..

Although I don't understand why ATT would this, the above methods for S4 has made people who didn't understand the process fully to go back to Samsung//BB service centers to reflash the stock f/w.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
Actually getting root is going to be difficult. An unpatched exploit will be needed. Rom's and kernels will be the extremely difficult part. Samsung's credibility is on the line for a secure business solution with KNOX so you better believe they are going to make it hard if carrier's like ATT decide to lock down their devices like they have.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
Yeah, I'm still just trying to understand why ATT is doing this. Hopefully the old root method works then, otherwise it is a deal breaker for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daraj:
Since we pretty much know that att version is bootloader locked(designgears confirmed) do we know If the tmobile version or the International version has this Knox kernel?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
I don't think it matters at this point. My understanding is that with the custom recovery already available you can flash a rom with root and with knox disabled. There is already a dev working on striping knox out in the dev section.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
Geez, it's just hard imagining a phone like the Note 3 never having root access. But hey if that's what happens, I guess there's nothing you can do.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mohan_kr:
That's correct. If a bootloader is unlocked and you ODIN flash a custom recovery and install su and push super su. The kernel is not SELinux permissive, then we just need to wait for the source drop, compile a new kernel. The important thing is the bootloader unlock and knox security allowing unsigned kernels and recoveries. From the S4 T-MO thread it appears that the T-MO version allows that..so it will not be a big deal..ATT ones of course you are pretty much toast.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
900T source code!

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=n900
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pikezer1337:
Is the GN3's bootloader the same as the S4's?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mircury:
No
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Han Solo 1:
If I go with T Mobile, will it be unlocked and ready to root even though I don't pay full retail for it? I'm thinking of using the Jump program, but I heard that it's not unlocked until you pay full price of phone...

Sent from my Crapple iPhone 5
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] designgears:
well, T-Mobile won't unlock it until it is fully paid for, but you can probably go to an unlocking site and get it unlocked.
[G2 Accessories] big70tom:
Doesn't work
[G2 Accessories] rdcamero:
Works fine with mine.Have the Nokia DT-900 and the Ballistic Shell Gel.
[G2 Accessories] who MIKE D:
Same here.
[G2 Accessories] IamPro:
What charger do you have OP?
[G2 Accessories] chrisexv6:
Just got my ballistic yesterday, had my Nokia 901 charging plate since last week.

Both work just fine together.
[G2 Accessories] big70tom:
I have LG original big plate charger. So the other chargers work on this?
[G2 Accessories] JTNiggle:
Yeah, that charger is junk! I bought a couple when the HTC DNA first came out because that's all that was available, and they barely work without a case on.

Get one of the Nokia wireless chargers, you will be much happier. I've had a couple for over a year and never had a problem charging through the thickest cases on the DNA or G2.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] fibrechips:
After flashing http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2102986 to my phone (Stable Version, anykernel), my phone no longer responds to the power button.

Actually, it doesn't respond to any buttons (Power/Volume.) I can get the notification LED to light up after I hold down the power button for around 10 seconds with the USB cable plugged in to my computer. However, the screen doesn't turn on, so I can't access download mode.

Any ideas?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
Go to device manger and see if it detects your phone as qdlusb or something like that, if so it is hard bricked and needsto be jtag repaired.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] fibrechips:
Would QHSUSB_DLOAD be the same thing? (That's what shows up when I plug the phone in.)
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
Yep that's what it says when it is hard bricked. N4 kernels flash by partition number instead of name, or vice versa and it has to be sent in to mobiletechvideos.com to be fixed.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] fibrechips:
Well shoot. Okay.

My plan as of now is to take it into AT&T tomorrow, and seeing as I'm still under the one year warranty, they should just replace it, right? (I'll just play the stupid card if they ask about rooting/flashing/etc.) Should that be a safe bet?
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
Not sure you may have to go through LG directly. But its worth a shot.