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[G2 General] koboltzz:
As far as I know its still only possible on panels supporting knock on. The panel must notice every electronic interference even in standby. It is not possible with Galaxy S3 without a hugh battery impact (no real standby possible).

Only one of four? G2 versions have QI charging. The verizon one, so worldwide seen very limited.

Yeah says the benchmarks, but AMOLED is clearly worse on sunlight.

Camera, taking pictures and changing volumes is impossible due to lockscreen and needed interaction

Why kernel probs? Note will lose all featues on AOSP too, resell will be louchable on every androidphone in comparison to iPhones.

More updates but with huge delay, Galaxy SIII still on 4.1.2, back cover is faux leather and feels like it, sell for more because its way more expensive.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
[MENTION=335505]player911[/MENTION] it depends which Note 3 version youre getting. I have the T-mobile one using AT&T and the support is fantastic. Using wicked rom v2 and its the best combo ever.
[G2 General] player911:
Yea I completely forgot about Amoled vs LCD. Amoled does get killed outside but nothing new to me. But such a big screen, burn in will be more noticeable. Every Amoled gets burn in and after about a year, it gets real noticeable. I can read every letter on my keyboard when looking at a white page.

LCD wins big here IMO. I love Amoled but I'm ready to go LCD. I go back and forth between my GN (amoled) and N7 without issues. I don't even notice a difference anymore unless you look for it.

Didn't know about knockon being specific to certains screens. They've always worked on the devices I've tried. With a case, trying to find the stupid side buttons make it a chore. On my incipio feather and others, I have to almost use my fingernail to hit the power and volumes. Knockon really helps here and I'm already used to it. I use a double tap in my launcher for my App Drawer so its hidden from strangers. Playing with the G2 was annoying cause it kept turning off. I know you can turn off KnockOff but just saying.

I set my display time out to 15s so I just turn it on and forget it.

Doesn't the G2 have a special case where it displays a small portion of the screen like the Note 3? How would that work on a LCD? That's stupid. Amoled is only on when the pixel is lit. Even pure black draws some power to stay "ready" but not like a LCD where its on or off.

Not interested in a case like that but in this thread, helps to put all the facts on the table.

I think the LG is the best pick for me but LG scares me. I'm waiting for the N5 and seeing how hard it is to port 4.4.

I'm using Verizon so the Verizon G2 has Qi built in which was a big selling point. I'd rather not hack my new phone to get this. My Galaxy Nexus is using a Qi Receiver from the Note 3 so I can transplant it if needed like I do now.

I think the biggest thing was the LG skin. Admittedly Touchwiz is pretty. G2 seemed mismatched overall. Whites and greys and greens and blues.

I noticed the G2 launcher had themes that changed system wide icons and fonts. Anyone experimenting with that? If I could get a theme engine similar to CM T-Mobile theme app, I'd be happy on stock. I change my CM themes almost weekly.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
A lot of the things you posted are what pushed me to dump my G2 after owning it for a month. I picked up a Note 3 and also have a job where it comes in handy to have the stylus and the awesome note taking abilities of the N3.

And also don't worry about the common LCD shows up better in sunlight than amoled scenario. I can assure you that the N3 shows up better in sunlight than the G2 does. I tested it myself side by side and other reviews and YouTube videos have also confirmed this.

If you have your N3 on automatic brightness while outside, it will jack the brightness up higher than any manual setting normally. I have no issues at all seeing my screen. I see it better than most other phones that I've owned in fact.

See above about LCD vs amoled screen readability in sunlight. The N3 outperforms the G2 in this case.
[G2 General] player911:
I'm leaning toward the note 3 but there is 0 support for Verizon ATM.
[G2 General] barondebxl:
Yeah that sucks. Me personally if I was on verizon I would go for the G2. I need my development.
[G2 General] Cyko.Tech67:
i now have the g2 and im very happy with it... in terms of lag i see none only when i scroll through widgets on stock rom but im running apex and its perfect ive had very bad experiences with hard keys breaking which is why i went for this device so i guess just for me this is the best choice my s3 home button broke and my last 2 razrs lock buttons broke and i had to get hellfire rom in order to continue using the devices and im not rough with them either i baby my smartphones so idk you know some people will go towards the g2 some will go towards the n3 for completely different reasons im just one of the ones that went for the g2 and im happy with it so thats pretty much all that matters (: will be roming it soon and can only expect more impressions with that :D but thanks for the reply and concern on the demo devices haha im aware i never trust demo versions :P thanks for your feedback agian!
[G2 General] aznmode:
Congrats on the new toy! And yup as long as you're happy with it then that's all that matters.
[G2 General] ccoulterjg1:
In many ways they're almost identical. It basically comes down to which user experience you would prefer. I looked at it as, do I want to use a stylus, or my finger....
[G2 General] player911:
I went to buy the Note 3 for the Pen but it was just was too big to use one handed. The way it forced me to hold it didn't allow my thumb to barely make it on the screen.

I got the G2 and a feather case and its glorious. No regrets.
[G2 General] kregstrong:
im kind of shocked about the vzw development for the note 3, that makes me nervous cause i cant own a phone without an aosp rom running on it, i wonder what the deal is, maybe its the same problem with the newer gs4 firmware?
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Have to disagree about accidental button tap on the G2...the fact the buttons are on the rear helps to not accidentally hit them vs my other phones

So far I've never hit my buttons and my phones in all kind of situations. Nothing to worry about here
[G2 General] DesertHawk:
LG dev support back in the day was bad when they were using weird chipsets like TI OMAP and Tegra 2. Now they use the same hw as the Note 3, Z1, Z Ultra and so porting those UI's to the G2 would be much easier. Remember we can also port from SnapDragon 600 chips too so Sense 5 would also be available. So long as those phones have support so do we. Trust me. I know cause I love porting ROM's. LG G2 is an amazing smartphone and looks nice. Plus LG screens look very clear. Even on my LG Optimus 2X it looked very nice.

Oh not to mention the Nexus 5 will probably be based off this phone so another plus for us :D.
[G2 General] repoman_1966:
I have an Optimus G Pro and the G2. The screen on both is from better than the amoled on Samsung smartphone, in fact I prefer the G2 screen to my HTC one screen. I saw the Note 3 today in Carrefour here in Doha. I only needed 30secs with it to say what a plastic piece plastic crap.
[G2 General] uppon2:
Ahh if only the Optimus G Pro had the internals of the G2!!!!!!!!!!!!
[G2 General] Super_Sport:
I can affoard buying either the note 3 or the g2, but my decision is to buy the G2

Simply its better overall.

Why the hell samsung keep rrpeating itself..same design, same ****ty home button, same amoled, and the leather in the back, omg is this a phone or a wallet ??
[G2 General] jspradling7:
Because they're business owners and will stick with a winning series as long as it's fruitful. They also know that the same "boring" effect that has plagued Apple will descend on the current Galaxy and Note models. This is most probably why they are playing with the idea of making the SGS5 out of metal.
[G2 General] mike2518:
I hated the home button on the note 2, love the on-screen on the g2

I would definitely get the g2, I skipped the note 3 after having the note 2 fur a year.
[G2 General] carakamuda:
I got the G2 last Saturday. Been considering to get the G2 or the note 3 just like you guys in this thread. I pick up the G2 last saturday on the basis that G2's screen estate is big enough for me and apparently I don't want a larger screen because mobility is important for me. I played around with the note 3 today and I'm glad that I chose G2 over note 3. I tried to make a phone call with the note 3 but the size of the phablet just made me look ridiculous holding it and covering most of my face.

G2 is a great phone. As I learn and play with its plethora of features, I've never been so excited about gadgets in a long time. If I need a larger screen, I got nexus 7 and an ipad to play around.
[G2 General] Noam23:
Please take a look just how big of a difference there is between the 5.2" G2 screen, and the 5.7" Note 3 screen.

The G2's screen is actually a 4.8" screen, and not 5.2" (because of the software keys), so the difference from the Note 3 is so huge.
[G2 General] leyvatron:
Install Auto Hide soft keys from the market. Boom! 5.2"

I recommend this app for all LG G2 users.
[G2 General] tiguy99:
The G2's screen is better with the Auto Hide Soft Keys app. The app hides the softkeys giving you full screen access. The Keys pop up & are transparent when you need them & slide down when you don't
[G2 General] mainstang:
Question about the auto hide keys, I'm guessing you need to be rooted? I'm not opposed to it but it might be a minute before the sprint variant gains root.

Sent from my glitter pony
[G2 General] Noam23:
Auto hide keys is not a good idea in my opinion, because it forces you to make an extra click on the screen, everytime you want to access the software buttons. This is annoying and unproductive.

I also saw that some suggest PIE CONTROL, but checking this app, I saw many complain that it's unstable.

The best solution in my opinion was if the software keys would have used about half the height they use now. They are just unnecessarily too big.
[G2 General] woof123:
If someone can handle Note 3 huge size,then it might be abit better choise (the camera is better on G2 tho..)
[G2 General] Noam23:
I think that the software keys and lousy external speaker are holding the G2 from being a perfect device. The note 3 is indeed too big... Guess I'm back to waiting..
[G2 General] leyvatron:
No you don't.

You obviously haven't used the auto hide. You choose what you want it to do... including adjust size and space with keys.Try it For a day and you'll get use to it. Try it For at least a day. I'm going to do a youtube video about them tomorrow.
[G2 General] namtombout:
Soft keys are just as bad as hardware keys. Gesture control is the way of the future.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontrol
[G2 General] uppon2:
I am also concerned about AOSP support and GSM ROM support. I had a Verizon Droid DNA which worked well in my country (using GSM) but as soon as I started flashing Verizon custom ROMs, things like MMS would stop working.

I am not sure if this will be the same for me
[G2 General] tiguy99:
That looks kinda cool! I've never seen that before
[G2 General] Noam23:
The problem with replacing the software keys with gesture control, is that very similar gestures are also used in many other applications (the launcher, the browser, etc.). And so it is very hard to think of simple gestures that are not already used.

When you have a dedicated key for "BACK", you know that every time you press that button, you'll get the "BACK" function. EVERY TIME. When you start using gestures to replace keys, I found that in actual usage, there are many misbehaviors and accidents, this is not a perfect solution. Far from it.
[G2 General] namtombout:
If I may rebuttal

The time saved by being able to multitask makes up for the rare occasion of a miscue. Combine it with a few xposed modules and it makes stock android very customized, but to each their own.
[G2 General] JesseMT4G:
For me I would go to the Note 3 as there is so much you can do with the Stylus now. I have a Note 2 a D LG G2 I gave to my wife as it wasn't enough for me. I personally like the bigger phone as I suck up a lot of data and the bigger screen is nice. Also the N3 will have an awesome screen and the top notch specs across the board.

Don't get me wrong the LG Is a wonderful device and the wife loves it. Has a great screen, quickest phone I have used to date and the camera is amazing. Definitely a good phone, just think for me, I will be sticking to the note series. Then again I have 4 more months till I can use my jump program. See what's out then.
[G2 General] wy2sl0:
I really wanted a note, but in the end I just couldn't get past the burn in possibility when using static images I.e nav or car mode. Look at some pod the horror stories from the note 2 forums. Can't afford an 800 device that may be ruined within a year.
[G2 General] HoosierInFL:
Unless the company you work for requires the use of Mobile Iron, which doesn't work with a rooted phone. I'm in that situation.

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The app clearly states in the Play Store that root is required. Why would they say that if it doesn't need it?
[G2 General] darkhelio:
well if the LG G2 has good dev support i will buy it... i will not buy a new phone tile november.. because im waiting to see the reviews cons and pros of all this Snapdragon 800 Chipset Phones... but i want a SNPdragon 800 Chipset on my next phone i have the money i just need to be patiend

PD: the Extra GB of the NOTE 3 is atractive... but is for all that S-Pen Feautures... thats why the added more ram... to handle all that Sh*t
[G2 General] cruzargel:
Well for me I'm really bothered by my Note2 being faster in loading web pages (in Chrome and Dolphin) and also in opening apps. Anyone who can also test?
[G2 General] IamPro:
**** it, I like using Pie as my nav keys that I will try this since it looks wayyy more efficient then Pie/SoftKeys/etc
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Take that extra GB and look at the lag and stutter that the Note 3 produces, just like the S4 before it. Until people realize that Samsung phones won't get rid of that lag and stutter until they optimize their software, their phones will still sell like hotcakes. No specs will cure their problems.

But as I said, boat loads of the Note 3's will still sell because Samsung has turned into Apple sadly. I know for sure that I won't touch a Samsung phone again until they fix their software. But good luck on whichever you choose!
[G2 General] shaungregg:
Two things I read here and there, 1. that some guy has the G2 and it was slower than his insert last years phone here. I'm like what G2 were you using an HTC g2 from 2010? My phone flies and I'm coming from an S4 and One so I don't know should I be comparing it to some phone that isn't out or the Moto X or the iPhone 5s? Now I'll admit that every once in awhile when I haven't been using her and I knock her on I will clear recent apps and hit the clear ram on task mgr widget, I've also rooted and removed some bloat but I'm running stock rom and launcher.

Secondly I see here and there that the speakers suck blah blah, I have to turn mine down at times. I love that they are on the very bottom of the phone so Its easier for me to put my hand over them to muffle it and not scare people sometimes. No they aren't like my speakers on the One and heck half the greatness of the Htc One speakers is they are facing you and in landscape mode its left and right stereo and Htc managed to make a beautiful design statement with their placement too. Still I hardly use the speakers to jam on, that's what external speakers are for or headsets. Even the One speakers aren't going to replace the cheapest boombox, you ain't going to show up at a party and set your One up for entertainment with them speakers. The G2 actually produces the highest fidelity sound of any phone according to the specs, what software and external setup will take advantage is another story.

If you need a pen and a bigger screen then why even contemplate anything besides the Note 3, no need to knock our phone, that's for us to do every day all day.
[G2 General] Mastrox:
If you are interested in both phone, an Italian blog today is making a battery test. For all day long the Note 3 and the G2 will be used in the same time. The phone's settings are the same, same launcher, same applications, and so on. Of course they use the same login in both devices. Every hour will be post the battery screenshot until one of them will shut down.

Here is the link. If you need more information or you don't understand italian, just ask to me (but i don't know if you understand my poor english). ;)
[G2 General] vegetaleb:
The main advantage of the G2 is that even with a 5.2'' it's perfectly one handed manageable while Note 3 is way too big,also it looks awkward to have a coffee plate on your ears :laugh:

Though of course 5.7'' screen is a game and video pleasure thingy
[G2 General] BoneXDA:
Note III and don't look back brah. If 5.7" is too big, then wait for the Nexus 5 for half the price.
[G2 General] phobic99:
I picked up the G2 last night. It's a pretty good phone but it feels too small after using a Note 2 for a year. I'll be taking it back Friday for the Note 3.
[G2 General] TheBenzinator:
As it said - once you move to Note you can't go back...:good:
[G2 General] srps:
Unless you have hands the size of mine and can't fully operate the Note one-handed. And well, it almost looks like I'm holding a pizza square to my ear :p

But I suppose that for people with large hands its size is manageable.
[G2 General] phobic99:
Actually I would consider myself as a guy with small-ish hands. The main thing for me is the size of the screen. The G2 isn't that much smaller than my Note 2 but it's definitely noticeable.
[G2 General] wy2sl0:
I like how everyone conveniently ignored what I said. Who wants to buy a compromised device? If you game with static HUD, you can burn in, if you use nav for extended periods, you can burn in. I own a plasma TV and although times have changed it is a pain in the ass to have to deal with the possibility of damaging your expensive investment. Really cheap on Samsung's part to use an Amoled pentile screen.
[G2 General] :
Just ordered a G2 over the Note III, iPhone 5S going back as I can return it within 14 days.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I agree with you and I much prefer lcd screens now since I got the G2. When I still had my S4 and put them side by side, it was almost embarrassing how bad the whites and overall color looked on the S4.
[G2 General] srps:
Ah, I see. For me to be able to always have a good grasp around the device is a must, and with the Note 2 I can't but feel that it might slide / tip over from my hand whenever I'm multitasking.

I haven't yet tried the G2, but its size is very similar to the SGS3 (which is close to the maximum I can handle for one handed operations) so it should be good. Note 2 is definitely too big, but I agree that if the grasp didn't matter as much the screen size would've been a factor.

Each one has its own needs :laugh:
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Here's my personal list of pros comparing Droid MAX and Note 3 to LG G2 (which I own):

MAXX

Capacitive buttons

Great look and feel

Instant GPS lock

Nice screen; dark blacks and vibrant, great viewing angles

Car dock with charging

Dedicated multi-tasking button

Flash-optimized file system

Barometer

More memory at boot / less bloatware

Active notifications

OK, Google Now
​

LG G2

Great camera (OIS)

5x5 rows on home screen, 7 icons in App drawer

5.2" gorgeous screen

Lighter and smaller

Knock-On

Bubble pop-ups for texts and phone calls

Faster​

Note 3

Nice screen; dark blacks and vibrant, great viewing angles

Capacitive buttons

Nicer back

Bigger screen

More memory

More apps can be in Windows eg Chrome and Maps

Good camera (no OIS)

Faster

Android 4.3

Barometer

USB 3​
[G2 General] carakamuda:
well said :D.
[G2 General] johncommode:
I had a Note and I switched to the G2 and have not looked back.
[G2 General] phobic99:
I've been back and forth with the G2 and Note 3. The more I play with the G2, the more I like it. The size is perfect but I do miss the S-pen just a little. TouchWiz though... not so much. I was planning on keeping the G2 until at least Friday but I may end up keeping it. Who knows...
[G2 General] tiguy99:
Just played with the Note 3 & G2 @ AT&T. Note 3 is alot of fun...screen is huge as expected which is good for web browsing & but overall the G2 screen looks better as far as IPS screen sharpness and clarity vs Amoled S4 like Screen the Note 3 has.

The sales guy didn't know that both phones can be used as computers via MHL cable & bluetooth keyboard/mouse combo. I had to educate him on that meaning you'll be in for a world of cool features if you have to use either phone to do work presentations on the big screen. (One selling point he tried to use to steer me to the Note 3)

Honestly, with both phones, you won't miss the other one if you bought it meaning there's no one significant reason for me to get the Note 3. For me, its much bigger than I need in a phone & the G2 delivers in spades for its size. It feels like you're almost getting over with the big 5.2" screen considering how compact it is for its size.

Bottom line, I'm excited I'm getting it over the Note 3 & don't think I'm missing out
[G2 General] Bxrider117:
I had the Note 2 and I really liked it and my problem with it was even though I had big hands when I would reach across the screen with my thumb the palm of my hand would touch the back button or menu button and I would wind up having to use two hands to perform a task. I played with the S4 and I just didn't want to get another Samsung phone. I really expected the g2 to come out after the Note 2 with Verizon because they are notorious and making their customers wait for new devices.

When the G2 came out first I figured I would give it a try because it would feel more like a one handed phone and to be honest it has been great. IT is fast and gives great battery life. For me the drawback was VZW changing the design and not being able to get any good cases for the phone now, but that will change. Just like how the G2 changed my mind about staying on the Note 2 or getting the Note 3.
[G2 General] ericdabbs:
I am surprised you didn't mention about battery life in any of the 3 phones. There has to be one of those phones that have the best battery life.
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Note 3 faster than the G2? LOL.
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
I think they all have pretty good battery life. Not really a differentiator. Probably the MAXX has the best though.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2

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Faster than the MAXX, maybe a little faster than the G2 if it has less thermal throttling.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Touchwiz is all I need to say. An un-optimized joke.
[G2 General] itzjonjon69:
sorry if i'm beating a dead horse, but i cancelled my Note 3 and picked up the G2 at launch and after reading the review of the Note 3 on droid life i'm very happy! They compared the Note 3 to the G2 and kept saying that the G2 was better!

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/
[G2 General] serdarfatih:
G2 battery life. This picture, min 3 hour speak, internet, gps and all used whole day.

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