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[Galaxy Note 3 General] stoney73:
But...its still a s**t router. With wifi dropouts galore, and inconsistent wifi speeds , regardless of which device. I went through 2 replacement home hub 2's and 3 home hub 3's, finally bought a netgear and bye bye dropouts and s****y download speeds.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fade2black101:
That's bollocks though

He says it works fine with his other phones. Assuming he is not lying, why should he have to go out and waste money on a new router because one device on his network behaves differently?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
I love everything about my N3 except KNOX (which everyone hates) - I've had a few issues though, Issues which have caused me to factory reset and check for rogue apps every couple of days. (After the factory reset, it was all good for 2-3 days then issue again. )

I get the whole Unfortunately XXX app has stopped working, then the phone randomly crashes... Weird as I couldn't see anyone who had the same issues except for - gapps and play store, It was pretty much happening with all my apps, Play store downloaded fine, but crashed on installing ANY app. I updated to XXUDMJ7 base and build from MJ6 via KIES (phone was rooted and I tripped 0x1 previously) which was pretty simple and re-rooted again. So far so good. But tbh I expect the issue to happen again like before.

Anyone else encountered this? I searched everywhere and could not for the life of me find anyone who this has happened to.

EDIT: Also whether it's Three or the phone, my signal is poor as hell all the time, random 3G loss until i reset the APN settings, never gets above 3 Bars.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bubblesmoney:
the same router works fine as i already said with my s4 (also have used s3, note 2, nexus 5), still use 2x nexus 7 2012, and nexus 7 2013, 2x android mini pc, 1x laptop, 2x sky HD+ boxes for cable TV, 2x smart TVs (sony and LG), 1x sony smart bluray player, 1x LG smart bluray player, 1x smart panasonic streamer.

All the above devices and others that my friends and family use, work fine on the same BT hub3, as already mentioned and shown in the video, the same router gave the nexus 5 42mbps downloads and my s4 works great too and cant remember ever having a drop out of loss of signal ever. i stream xbmc in 1080p sometimes and bbc iplayer in full hd and netflix and youtube without issues.

i watch a lot of youtube and other tech videos, just on my s4 some months i cross 70gb a month and thats just one my s4 excluding my nexus 7. so my router is fine most of the time.

the n3 has issues with every router i have connected to. using ookla seedtest app (see video) the pattern is very spiky, it gets 40mbps then instantly drops to almost zero and very jagged graph pattern, unlike the nexus 5 and other devices that maintain a steady download pattern on same router.

the upload pattern on the same n3 with same router is fine and steady just like my other devices and infact the n3 sometimes can be better by an mb or two. It is only downloads that are a pain in the arse. sometimes nexus 5 showing 42mbps while n3 struggling at 0.5mbps!!! as shown in the video

i assume since uploads are fine that the antenna is fine. so hoping it is a software issue that gets solved with update. can anyone here confirm if uploads are fine then antenna and rest of hardware is fine please????

i tried switching off the suto switch (as mentioned in my previous posts) but makes no diff. no diff for totally switching off data connection, no diff for switching off wifi power save mode via test menu settings via dialler using *#0011# and menu button. no diff changing dhcp to static in settings either. inssider wifi analyser app says 58dbm connection with no wifi interference in that channel, so it is not interference or signal strength. of the nine android devices i have tried in last few days this is the only on that struggles with wifi issues.

any common man seeing what i have written here will most likely believe it is the N3 rather than router that is at fault..

switching off router and restarting makes no difference. anyway i cant do that at work or elsewhere so that isnt a viable option.

will try around a few days then time for a replacement or fight fro refund under sale of goods act where under 6m the seller has to prove the device is not faulty.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stoney73:
Just get it replaced? Instead of all the unnecessary drama? Obviously faulty.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
My n3 works just fine with the router..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] qunungnauraq:
Mine works great with with my Tomato USB router and NAS.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Smart stay and pause doesn't seems to work all the time.

If I disable the air view and air gesture then the smart pause and stay features work else it won't work. Is it some kind of issues or something else ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MILJANN:
I'm having a problem with my earphones... Is it just mine, or they have very shallow bass sound? When I attach other earphones they work just great with full sound and deep bass... But Samsung earphones are very sharp without deep sound and bass...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] qunungnauraq:
The problem must be defective headphones. My stock headphones have plenty of bass and are an improvement over the ones that came with my Note 2. One thing you could check is if the insulation on the male jack isn't cut too long, preventing the contacts from lining up in the female jack.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Limeybastard:
I get the same issue but only because the damn ear buds won't fit tightly in my ear. They basically just are loose inside my ear resulting in tinny sound.

Sent from my SM-N900T
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bubblesmoney:
Found the problem and solution. Blasted phone gets confused when it is scanning for open wifi. So it a software issue. This only becomes apparent when you are in areas with open wifi !!! Hence some stating that their phone is fine. Anyway now got it sorted via disabling setting and now am getting 52 mbps on same router and phone with no updates. So it is the phone software issue after all !!

See proof of it working fine with same phone and router. Hope this helps others with the problem too. the solution to the samsung galaxy note 3 wifi issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjL8JbSQCvw&
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ganstar:
Stock earphones on any device are vile creatures. Do yourself a favour and get some reasonable buds. And this is from a non-audiofile.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] megadelayed:
Well IMO the stock earbuds arent bad in normal use, like walking around in town or when you are travelling, but they do sound really tinny if you cant put them in deep enough, also i find that i have to use the equaliser to boost the bass a little and tune down the mids to stop my music sounding too shrilly.

However, when you use good headphones, especially low impedance ones, you seem to be able to hear cpu noises/ strange buzzing when there is no sound playing, but it seems to go away when there is, but in quiet sounds it somehow still seem to have a bit of noise in quiet parts of a song. I didn't have this problem on the s3.

Also, the sound quality is definitely meh compared to the Wolfson DAC in the s3 if you use decent headphones, but with stock earbuds there isnt much of a difference.

Apart from that the note is better in other aspects
[Galaxy Note 3 General] midnite_blue:
I'm hoping someone can help me understand this 'gray market' argument. I'm not talking about whether or not you believe they have the right to try to control the 'gray market.' What I don't see is how Samsung's region lock is helping them succeed at that, justified or not.

Isn't the 'gray market' primarily flowing from Asia to the West?

I can see how this new policy might curtail the flow of phones from west to east, as customers in Asia wouldn't want European or American phones with the region lock on them. But didn't they already shy from Western units previously because they're priced higher?

I can see how they might want to influence the flow of merchandise in a way that would enhance the sale of their proprietary Exynos chipsets. But the Snapdragon-based phones coming out of Asia are also regionally unlocked.

It makes sense that Samsung wants potential customers in the West to buy their phones in the West since the higher price brings better profits. But now not only are Asian phones cheaper, they come without the region lock, increasing the incentive for Western buyers to get them, without introducing any new obstacle.

As you can see, I'm missing something... hoping someone can help me understand.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Samsung wants people to buy their devices in the regions they are intended to be sold in. This isn't new. They haven't provided warranty support for devices outside their selling regions for years. For example, a UK phone can't be repaired in the U.S. either under warranty or even if the owner was will to pay out-of-pocket. Why? In many markets Samsung has distributors that are awarded an entire region. The distributor is responsible for sales, some level of local marketing, and support which costs the distributor money and subsequently affect their margins. When a non-authorized reseller imports phones from another region and competes with the authorized reseller the latter loses sales and profit which could affect their investment in the services they provide on behalf of that market for Samsung. In addition, many unauthorized resellers don't disclose their status and that affects customer perception of Samsung when they find out their phone warranty may be affected or they don't receive updates they normally would like everyone else in their region. I'm sure a large component is also protecting the prices set in a region by Samsung and the designated distributor. There's also regulatory compliance which dictates different s/w be treated differently by region based on litigation over patent issues.

Others like Sony, HTC, and LG don't seem as zealous as Samsung when it comes to regional selling so who knows why this was and is so important to Samsung. Regardless, it's the future and people that don't want to deal with it shouldn't buy Samsung phones. When this first came up people were caught off guard. It's now well know and Samsung's said they aren't backing away from it. So people can either live with it or vote with their wallet and buy other manufacturer's products whose policies are more favorable to grey market sales.

Here's an interesting article on Samsung's appeal to the Indian Supreme Court over grey market sales...

http://www.worldipreview.com/news/inta-wades-into-samsung-trademark-battle-in-india
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Since I've rooted and discovered Bobcat rom im not half as remorseful as I was. I use my note 3 daily and have grown to really like it.

Even the audio, Bobcat has some tweaks and things are bareable sound wise. Guess I'm pretty happy with it now overall :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Solarenemy68:
All of you with the subjective sound issues, have you even tried using adept sound setting with earphones yet? I am hard of hearing to a point I can not hear low speech or a whisper. I used the adept sound setting an i can now hear parts of the music and other sound sources I never could before. In fact on movies I no longer have to rely on subtitles. Music is just stellar now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Onemoa:
That's the thing about the Note 3. The audio quality isn't nearly as good as the Note 2 with it's highly noticeable better audio.

I love music and it's great to be able to have such a great MP3 player built into the Note 2.

Another great thing is with the 4.3 update the the Note 2 is getting, is it's going to have all of the new features the Note 3 has. I'm happy I held out. Though I couldn't get the Note 3 anyway. It's going to be great when T-Mobile finally pushes the 4.3 update out. I'm sure it will be delayed again and it won't reach our Note 2's by the end of the year.

It was supposed to be December 22nd but now it seems it will be sometime next year. I can't wait and it's BS.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jongilluley:
It's quite simple... And hopefully this will end the bickering...

If your main buying point is quality of build ask to see the phone in a local shop BEFORE buying one. If the quality is to your high standards then buy it. If not then don't buy it.

I don't see Samsung forcing people to buy their phones at gunpoint.

I had a look at a Note 3 before I bought my next phone. I didn't go for it as it didn't jump out at me as a wow phone. So I purchased a Z Ultra which felt good in hand and was what I liked and wanted.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] H0rn:
You won't be disappointed with the white version it's a very beautiful phone and has a kind of carbon look to it, just switched from a black note 2 and people told me I'd regret it but I absolutely do not!

Enjoy the best phone to date;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Dumbo53:
Imagine for a moment that Samsung did finally make their phones out of aluminum. Apple is so good at marketing that I wouldn't be surprised if after their next iphone came out, aluminum wouldn't suddenly start to look a bit cheap, even low class, just so yesterday...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317
[Galaxy Note 3 General] riz157:
If your perception of plastic is more premium look then enjoy, I can't help you with your delusions consult a professional. I was referring to those reviews made from an independent, objective, point of view rather then a more subjective experience.

Even critics can be wrong but not all the critics all the time equally Personal perceptions can also be wrong and deluded now, as case in point see your comments.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ryland Johnson:
So sorry for having an opinion, Please don't bomb me! Man you are such a bully, a real key board warrior. Is it totally beyond your comprehension to understand this is a forum and we all post opinions, debate and share experiences. Most do that in a polite educated non confrontational manner.

Calm down, learn to debate in a acceptable fashion and allow others to differ and share. This is a forum.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] madpete:
Is hard to be disappointed with this phone, I think any negatives are only minor points because its a great device. I was hoping Samsung would take a leaf from HTC on the dual front facing speakers thing, and I am a bit disappointed with regard to the knox "Warranty Void" thing. .. It's a stand against the modding community which helped Samsung make the Galaxy series what it is now. But that's it. To people who moan about build quality, two things. 1. You are fully aware of the build materials before you buy the phone, and if you haven't taken time to research that... Who's fault is it? 2. I'll take the plastic build anyday, it's tough, it doesn't scratch particularly easily and when you drop it. .. and you will drop it at some point... it has a better chance of surviving without major damage. Plus plastic has no impact on mobile signal reception, and is very light.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
About as reasonable and rational as someone purchasing a "Plastic Phone" where the specs and construction material were known well beforehand, but still feel the needs to whine and complain about said materials after the fact "they" purchased the phone on a public forum.

Also if you consider cheap grade aluminum to be a considered a premium material then by all means go right ahead, its not aircraft grade or billet aluminum. Not even close to being either grades. And the reason to why the phone wasn't built from that material? Because people would whine and complain about how "heavy" the phone would weigh in on a spec sheet.

Considering I was commenting about critics of the original Note 1 and Note 2, where they panned the device as being too "big and unwieldy". Unless those independent reviews were not being made from an objective point of view? Maybe they also let their personal subjective experience biases creep into their non biased review. And thus proven to be incorrect. I would say in this instance that you are as informed and perceptive as they were in their assumptions and beliefs.

So lets go back to the original question. Which phone has this magical build quality you speak of, feel free not to answer this question. I have already sighted your given example as a fail.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mi7chy:
I find it funny that people associate recycled aluminum with premium. First thought for me is it reminds me of a soda or beer can and worse of all it degrades radio signal.

People need to realize that the world premier 5th generation F-22 Raptor aircraft's canopy is made of polycarbonate for technological and safety reasons.

Recycled aluminum isn't premium and is about 40 cents per pound.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rippley05:
I'm not complaining about the plastic, I have in the past and it has kept me from buying Samsung. I am more than likely gonna get the Note3 because it doesn't feel/look as cheap and it usually does.

I also can tell you the hate on HTC aluminum is either from ignorance from not having the phone or being a fanboi of Samsung. The signal doesn't suffer at all, it is just as good as my girlfriends S3. That being said, the much hyped "boom sound" is garbage. My first "One" had a blown speaker within a month, now, after 5 attempts Asurion finally sent me a decent replacement that I've had a few months...and the speaker is blown again. This time, I can't even hear the other person if I talk on the phone. 3 out of 5 HTC phones for me have had blown speakers in the past so bang on their crappy speakers, but not the ultra sexy aluminum. Especially when your argument is for plastic.

I went to At&T today to play with the display (considering leaving Sprint for At&T or T-mobile) and the phone is just awesome. It's huge, maybe too big in the end for me, but it seems to be as good as advertised in the limited time I had to use it. The release date and actual ship date confusion is a mess that should not happen, Sprint is also charging more than any carrier for this phone which also should not happen..so we'll see.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Much has been said about about metal construction and audio playback. While important to some it's clearly not important to the masses. Otherwise HTC's sales and profit wouldn't look like this. And while they don't have Samsung's marketing and distribution they've missed their own sales estimates which would have taken that in to account. Whatever choices Samsung's making certainly isn't hurting them or helping anyone else.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
Actually it's not from ignorance at all. I had the HTC One phone and returned the phone in favor of my S3. Pure and simple the aluminum on the HTC One is cheap and cheap feeling. If you don't agree, find something that is made from aircraft aluminium and sample for yourself. I didn't like the feel of the phone in my hand. Plain and simple. My signal did not suffer at all, I had the same signal as my S3.

I am not a fanboi of any phone company, I have big hands and I am a fan of big phones. So I try them all or do a small amount of research in them. So I am a "Fanboi" of large phones. I hate the Iphone, as I type this response from my Macbook Pro...

I can't really say anything about the speakers because it is not a feature that I used on the phone. I have heard good things about the speakers when compared to any other smartphone on the market currently. Unless those speakers can give me better sound than my JH16 Audio iem's, then it won't be a selling point or a valid complaint from me personally.

Also another fallacy is the t-mobile $199 myth for this phone. But I will you and your wallet figure that out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I asked this in a thread that was just closed where the Note 3's external speaker quality was being questioned ... My question is,how is the audio quality via the headphone jack or Bluetooth?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
According to these guys the headphone jack is supposed to be the best of any headphone out on a smartphone. There is supposedly an italian forum where the "sky is falling" due to the quality of the headphone output. YMMV.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vtjay:
For what it's worth, my first iPhone 5 was returned because it came out of the box chipped. That's the reason for cases, I agree with you that metal feels more premium, but from a longevity standpoint, the plastic holds up well, and the back can be replaced, if scratched. As for the screen, LCD and amoled won't make any feel difference, both are color panels sandwiched between glass, the LCD would have a backlight, but that doesn't have anything to do with feel.

Long and short, play with it, if you don't like it don't buy it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I thought the only thing that really mattered were the tinny on-board speakers? Twice the number of pages have been devoted to them and phones are being returned over them. ;)

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mix1987:
I agree with the speakers. But on the other hand, more studies have to be done on the built in sound control of the Note 3. For example, changing the mixing settings on spotify or other eq software changes the volume output of the speakers and earphone to avoid distortion. Clearly there is a comprehensive sound mixing software -which affects the speaker and the earphone- in the works here. With root already possible, I hope audiophile devs will mod the **** out of this feature. It might be the best implementation of a sound ecosystem on a phone as of now. One point to back me up but on a separate note which is the earphone. Do you know that Note 3 can provide customized sound to the individual user? It will give you an audiometric test to determine your hearing capabilities through Settings>device>sound>adept sound.

If sound is so highly customisable on our Note 3, and that speaker mixing is tied to earphone mixing, then I would argue that the speaker can be improved upon. But the argument of a dual speaker will render my words moot. Samsung shd be given lots of credit for this feature but they chose not to market it. For some reasons which r unknown to me. Perhaps this tech is still in the "gimmick" phase.

For earphones, I absolutely love it. My creative aurvana in ear 3 coupled with my fireye mini amp performed just amazingly with my Note 3. With adapt sound enabled and mixing customised to my hearing, I managed to pick up details which I did not previously pick up on my fav songs.

Btw, I hate how hard the spen is to pull out. Note 2 has a small protrusion for your fingers to catch but note 3 does not have that. I am worried I might chip the chrome surface of the spen. : (
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jeromepearce:
I am waiting for the first thread here that complains that the gorilla glass has a minor scratch on it after being left in a cement mixer overnight with 10 bricks ... (or in your pocket with some keys - pretty much the same thing) :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
I have both the N3 & the HTC One - I use Power amp on both, Not the built in music players - Using a SONY SBH50 BLUETOOTH with Kilpsch X10 earphones.

Both are excellent - I would say the N3 has a bit more volume & punch but the One is so close its untrue.

I would say that if you either of these phone for music playback you wont be dissatisfied.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
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Jerome, Jerome the metronome
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
That's absolutely brilliant :)

Jerome, Jerome the metronome
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dr.m0x:
It's diminishing returns compared to the investment now. Even I'd be quick to admit that I didn't really need to upgrade from the Note 2. That phone already did everything I need out of a smartphone. I've said it before but I think this time I really will skip the Note 4 unless it does something revolutionary like baking cookies.

Sent from my beastly Note 3