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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lalssa:
What do you think Galaxy S 5 will include. Tizen Or Android ?

Which One do you prefer ?

We have a lot of rumors about the Samsung Galaxy S5, now that the release date is getting closer and now we’re hearing again that one variant of the device will come with Tizen OS instead of Android 4.4 KitKat. Along with this, it’s also rumored that it will feature an optical image stabilization camera (OIS) and aluminium body.

Tizen is Samsung’s proprietary operating system and they are expected to release some devices running it very soon. It’s pretty clear that Samsung intends to help this operating system become more popular, but shipping a Tizen OS Galaxy S5 would be a really long shot as it doesn’t come with Google Play and all the apps available for Android.

These rumors don’t have any clear source and I wouldn’t rely very much on them, as I don’t believe Samsung is willing to take that risk with Tizen just yet. Before releasing their flagship smartphone with their proprietary operating system, they need to attract developers and create a decent app store. Currently Google Play is the biggest app store and you can find virtually every app you need there.

It’s been proved already that operating systems without a wide range of apps don’t manage to get traction, as we’ve seen the struggle of Blackberry and Windows Phone.

Samsung has been trying for a while to distance themselves from Android, but we’ve seen a change once with the Galaxy Note 3′s release. Until now they didn’t say anything about Android in their smartphone releases, but that changed at the Unpacked event this month.

The Korean maker might have realized that Android is what helps them lead the smartphone market and they probably wouldn’t be able to do it without Google.

So you should be confident that Samsung Galaxy S5 won’t come with Tizen OS, as they can’t ship their flagship smartphone without an app store, while their competition has Google Play, the world’s biggest app store.

We do believe that it will feature an aluminium body andwe’ve been the ones to break the news about this back in June. And it should feature OIS too, as camera technologies have evolved a lot and it’s now doable.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jgalvez21:
Android due the apps, unless tizen is android compatible and the battery
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yl1504:
I think there will be the possibility that there will be 2 versions one running android and one running tizen
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] David9519:
Maybe a dual boot system?
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LostByte:
I doubt you'll ever see Tizen on a shipping device. It's all about the Apps... and who is going to write Tizen apps?

For the users... its all about the Apps. They'll buy the device that has the fancy apps and can play all the games.

For the developers... they'll write the Apps for the devices they can make money from. And one (1) phone does not make you money on apps unless you are apple and sell 9 million phones in a weekend.

Look how hard Microsoft is working to try and get developers to write apps for its phones? ($100 giftcard for every app!)

Tizen is dead before arrival...
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] md1008:
If anyone can break free from Android it would be Samsung. As far as apps they can be expanded. I would be all for it if it was open source (heard that it was could be wrong) and updates were more frequently. Samsung already has an app store. That being said I don't believe Tizen is ready for prime time. Plus with Android being free I don't know why the need to venture on their own
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr hOaX:
It will be shipped with Android 4.4.2
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hellscythe:
There is not a chance that the S5 will be shipped with Tizen...
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobbarker2:
Yep. For someone to even take the question seriously at this point shows a lack of understanding the mobile market.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] powerup90:
hey guys the s5 is out !!!!

hey all ppl here the system dump is out finally !!!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackJack76:
Hello,

This is my first post on the forum and I am relatively new to programming on Android so please forgive my ignorance.

I own a Samsung Galaxy S3 and am trying to write a shell script that will simulate screen presses in a very rapid fashion. To do so, I stumbled across the "input tap" function from /system/bin/input and my script looks like this:

x=1
while [ $x -lt 10 ]
do
input tap 640 110
(( x++ ))
done

Anyway, the code works great in that it will tap the screen at location 640,100. However, each call to "input tap" takes almost a second to return. My script takes around 10 seconds to complete. However, I was hoping to find a way to speed up the call to "input tap". I am not sure if this is a limitation of my phone. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omtinez:
You can speed it up by changing:

input tap 640 110

Into:

input tap 640 110 &

And if you must wait until all touch events have been sent before proceeding you can add this at the end of the loop:

wait

So the final result would be this:

x=1
while [ $x -lt 10 ]
do
input tap 640 110 &
(( x++ ))
done
wait

But I honestly don't understand why it takes so long for a touch event to be sent. This limitation makes it impossible to automate testing of applications that require low latency of user-based input.

Edit: I probably should have explained. When you add

&

at the end of a command, you are telling the shell to run it "in the background" so your script continues even though the tap command has not returned yet. When you type

wait

at the end, you are asking the shell to pause until all the commands that you spawned in another thread have returned.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi All,

I am looking for a software update for my

XDA Mini camera software.

I have the version 2.70 ( done 18727)

on my Xda mini.

Is there a new version out that:

1. Can record in a higher framerate than 10 frames/sec

in 320x240 ?

2. has a mode for 90 degrees 320x240 instead of 240x320 ?

Will it be possible to tweak the camera to get

better pictures and video ?

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Dakky:
afaik you can take videos in 320x240 (landscape mode) , just press the key under green key..
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] undernewbie:
How to check camera's version ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi,

thanks for the info about landscape mode.

Does anybody know,

if there is a newer camera version out than:

version 2.70 ( done 18727) ?

Aren´t there any independant camera developers here ?

I would be willing to pay for a software that can do

any recording in 320x240 in 25 frames/sec in any Codec.

Please let me know, if there exists something like this.

Thanks.

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] sipdawg:
well, i think it aint so easy but if it is :lol: :o

the version you`re using is the newest as far as i know, follow another thread about saving pictures to sd. check that out!

I realy love to see software for the camera function of pda`s.

Also a "panorama maker" sounds cool
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi,

where is exactly the other thread ? URL ?

Is there a better camera software inside the XDA mini s,

( the new Imate Magician with the keyboard ) ?

As it is probably the same hardware camera device,

maybe it will have a better software which can be extracted

from the Roms and could be used also for the Magician ?

What camera software comes with Windows Mobile 2005 ?

Is there already any pocket PC out there,

that can record videos in 640x480 in more than 10 frames/sec ?

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ampda:
There is a new version its V2.70 (Build 21026)

Here is a CAB file that will install the new camera into Storage and the Album as well.

I have also attached just the new camera that will install into RAM which will replace your existing one (this option will use up your RAM)

The below CAB's include the camera fix so the speckles or "Snow" have also but been removed.

To uninstall you may have to manualy delete the new shortcuts and replace them with the standard shortcut found in the windows directory.

These CAB files will not delete the old files as they the old ones are loaded into RAM which can't be deleted.

If you want the CAB file to remain on your PPC after installation simply change its file preferences to "Read Only"

All CAB Files include the Speckle (or noise) FIX
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Thanks,

does this new version support more than 10 frames/sec

in 320x240 resolution mode ?

Howdo I install CAB files ?

Please give me an URL , where it is explained, how I can

install CAB fileson the pocket PC, thanks.

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ampda:
Not sure what the frame rate is.

To install CAB files just copy the file onto you SD card or into your device via a card reader (sd card) or via ActiveSync "Explore".

After you copy the file click on it on your Pocket PC via your file explorer.

Thats it. it will install into the folder i mentioned above.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Is there soon coming a new camera software version

that can capture at 25 frames/sec in any codec ?

Who is working on something like this ?

I really wouldl ove to pay money for such a recording program.

Please use overclocking if you can´t get it the normal way, but please

someone try 25 frames/sec at 320x240 at least.

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] :
I have new Camera Version

Hello I have found a new Camera Build: camera_v2.70 build 20677. however, don't know the difference is, haven't tryed it. Anyway, I attached here. Good Luck.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] pietrucci:
Re: I have new Camera Version

My version is 21026...

(from T-Mobile ROM 1.13).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rustoss:
Re: I have new Camera Version

It`s the same with me, landscape by default & may be somthing more...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Please can you check,

if the new camera software can do more frames per second

than 10 frames/sec in 320x240 mode ?

Please check both in MPEG-4 and MJPEG Avi.

Thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rustoss:
just harry test on ImTOO 3GP Video Converter

C:\Downloads\Video\200511162122_00003.mp4

Summary:

Duration:	00:00:22

Bit rate:	277kbps

Video:

Format:	mpeg4

Size:	320x240

Frame rate:	25.00fps

Audio:

Format:	amr_nb

Bit rate:	0kbps

Sample rate:	8000Hz

Channels:	Mono

it seems to be true, after decode to DVx, player show me 25 frame per sec. & all fast motion in the movie looks fluent
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi,

Did you record Video or MMS Video ?

in Mode Video with MP4 and MJPEG Avi the new version

still records in 10 frames /sec.

Maybe your converter programm interpolates it just to 25frames/sec ?

But this will still not be true 25 frames/sec from the source, the camera

and still will be quite choppy.

Regards. Stefan,
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi,

I tested now all modes again with TCPMP Player

and all 320x240 modes only have 10 frames/sec ! :roll:

Only the H263 mode with just 176x144 has 15 frames per

second. But that is just for MMS Videos mostly only and I want at least

320x240 in 25 frames/sec.

Regards, Stefan,
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] fone_fanatic:
so is it worth it to upgrade from build 20117 to 21026? i'm using 2.7 build 20117 and the camera is still worthless.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] marto_martin:
ampda,

Are you going to do a new CAB download of the newer version which has your "bonus fixes" added in?

Just wondering cause I just downloaded your file above but am now wondering if there's something new just around the corner :D

Cheers,

marto
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ampda:
I have updated the files in my first post, let me know how you go
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] programatix:
Ok, the latest version of Camera & Album software comes with the 1.13 ROM upgrade. Instead of upgrading, you can download the cab from the 1.13 Extended Rom.

About the framerate, I think Magician can only go as high as 25fps. To check this, edit the registery at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\AppDefSettings\General

Change the EnableFrameRate value to 1. This will show the current framerate the camera hardware is capturing. At 320x200, the highest is about 15fps.

To change the encoding framerate (which is useless as the we suppose to set the encoding framerate lower than the capturing framerate & as far as I can see, the setting is already in its optimal state), take a look at the registry at

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\Recparam

There are several profiles for the encoder. Take a look at each of the profile and change the framerate as you wish.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] duke911:
I was about to post the same here... anyway.. I don't think you'll get any difference.... but you can try however...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi,

with this parameter:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\Camera\Recparam

I could set the framerate at the MPEG4 320x240 setting to 25frames/sec,

but the real encoded framerate is only about 11 to 12 frames/sec.

Is there any possibility to overclock the PDA and thus get a real higher

framerate during recording ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] oltp:
Yes you can use Pocket Hack Master (PHM) for instance. It is discussed in some Magician & upgrading threads.

Cheers, M
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] programatix:
As far as I experienced, any overclocking application will actually slow down the camera. This include PHM and XCPU Scaler (or something like that... can't remember the actual name).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Why does overclocking slow down the camera ?

Maybe you have to change then also some additional parameters

as the Verticalsync save time parameters..

Look into the regedit parameters there and try to change a few.

Please post your results again over here.

I am really looking forward to get a camera application that

can capture MPEG4 or MJPEG AVI at 25 frames/sec.

Many thanks.

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] baniaczek:
It is not absolutely true.

Using PHM:

Try "Enable application specific speeds" end setup overclocking for Camera:

program path: \\Windows\\Camera.exe

Check: "Force speed setting"

Check: "Foreground activation only"

and select speed settings with maximum "Memory Index"
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] programatix:
Really? I after reading your post, I installed the latest PHM and viola! I am disappointed again.

Try setting the camera to show the framerate on the screen. Start PHM and set the speed to 416 mhz. Well? It is faster, slower or the same? Definitely slower.

At the size of 640x480 the speed without PHM is about 17.8fps but with PHM started (with the speed of 416mhz), it's only 12fps.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] biokeks:
Sorry if I am a little bit of topic, but i ask myself if it is possible

to add per registry a new video setting (for example "320x240 highframerate")

so I dont have to touch the presets? I add new registry key, but it doesnt

works. By the way: Is it possible to set a video resolution of 640x480?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
hi,

I am still not satisfied with the current camera application.

The framerate is still too slow and has somebody still reached 25 frames/ sec ?

Also these are the main disadvantages:

1. is there a Volume control for the audio mic input ?

My audio gets distorted in loud surroundings. How can the volume be controlled during recording ?

2.The MP4 and 3GP formats are just too incompatible for the normal PC user. I need to convert them to WMV or MPPEG4-AVI, before sending them out via email to friends directly from the Pocket PC. is there a Windows Media Encoder that runs directly on the Pocket PC ? or any converter software ?

Thanks, regards Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
P.S. My XDA mini crashed recently and I had to make A hard Reset loosing all my data.

Now I had reinstalled the newest Camera CAB installation from this thread over here and now I have the bug,that I can not save the video anymore to my SD card directly.

Although I can choose this setting, the video only gets stored to the main memory, which steals all the time valuable storage space. Is there a fix for this ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Is there already any other video capture application available for the Magician or will soon be available ?

It would be nice to have one with more settings and more standard codecs. Thanks. Regards, Stefan.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
At least it is now possible to send about 300 Kbytes big

Videofiles directly via the German O2 WAP Flatrate to other email addresses via www.gmail.com or www.gmx.de accounts.

I have tried this now and it works via the WAP flatrate for free.

So I can now send as many videofiles I like when I am on the road

for free to other email addresses, but I would prefer sending WMVs instead of MP4s, cause more people can easier play them and

Windows Mediaplayer automatically downloads missing codecs.

I wonder, why it does not so with MP4.

Is it a license reason ?

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Hi All,

I tried to record some footage on Christmas evening with low

light condition and all I can say, the camera application is just

bloody awfull !

When will we finally have a better camera application ?

What is the contact address of the camera software developper ?

How can he release such a bad piece of software ?

I am willing to pay 30 Euros for a better camera software,

where one can control all things much better and would have a better

lighting control and better low light amplification and less noise and better

framerate.

With the right software and overclocking it should be possible

to have at least 320x240 at 25 frames/sec in MPEG1 or MPEG4 or simular

codecs.

Also there is a nice piece of software for conversion at:

http://mp4cam2avi.sourceforge.net/

With it one can convert the MP4 container to AVI without recompression

of the vido files in it.

The only thing which did not work for me is the audio conversion

as this tool did not recognize the AMR sound codec.

Maybe somone can port the sources of this program directly to the pocket PC so it runs on the WM2003SE and so one could already convert the

video directly on the Pocket PC ?

The sources are located here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=123082

Or is there already any other software, that can convert an MP4 video

to MPEG-4 AVI on the Pocket PC ?

Many thanks and Merry Christmas.

Regards, Harti.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Kurwa:
Re: I have new Camera Version

Hello,

is ist possible to make this version run on my MDAII/XDAII?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] joehorn:
Hi hartiberlin,

the camera is bloody awfull !

And software is not a panacea! If the camera hardware is bad (and it is really bad) the software can't hide that. The photosensitivity of the camera is to low for low light conditions, the noise of the sensor to high for more amplification. And if you increase the framerate, you give the sensor less time to collect light and the signal to noise ratio will decrease more. And you need more power to compress the video so you have less time left for the software to suppress the noise as far as software can do that. So the low framerate is a compromise between speed and quality enforced by the low quality of the camera and the limited power of the signal processing hardware (controller). Yes, you can overclocking the System but that increases the speed at most round about 20 percent and you like to increase the framerate more than twice! And I'm afraid you can't increase the speed of the camera...

So I don't belive that there is a way to improve considerably the quality and speed only with better software.

Joe
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] shivam:
thanks worked great
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Ultimate Chicken:
Programatix:

I'm running a Playstation emulator (!!!) on my O2 Xda and I have to say you could be right. XCpuScalar actually reduced my framerates by up to about 10. My slowest rate was 25 without, 19 with, no matter how much I overclock.

Tho I suspect it might also have something to do with WM2003 insisting I put the RAM slider Where It Wants It and giving me only 19MB of RAM. I have more than 32MB RAM to spare, that's for sure...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adriankhoo153:
after installation it still shows version 2.7 (Build 18387)..How come? It supose to be Build 2.6... :(

Edited: Done now...Latest version i assume..Build 20677. But no diff..Still the same old lausy camera..haha
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adriankhoo153:
i found out that i can't open Album after i install camera_v2.70_buil_20677. It jes prompt that the program is not installed. How ah??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Asim:
I have installed this file. But my device Today Screen is not working properly.? it does not show Today screen.

Plz help..
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hartiberlin:
Is there now any better camera application available ??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] pietrucci:
Yes there is! It's called Coolcamera.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] oltp:
From Atek @ http://www.ateksoft.com/index.html , but it ain't cool :cry: it's HOT :-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] cx:
PDA2 (Alpine)

Has anbody tried if this Camera upgrade 21026 WORK on the Alpine as I see it has the same program for Camera.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] cx:
Re: PDA2 (Alpine)

anybody.......bump...bump...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] oltp:
CR why are pushing this? We've given the url & they got a compatability list http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html#sup which states the Alpine is supported!

Happy now?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] excogitation:
Did anybody ever try to replace the camera icons with nicer ones?

(saw them somewhere in \windows)

Is there a possibility to bind Resco Photo Viewer to the Camera?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] JamesManios:
Well, kinda...

You can't bind to another program easily because the camera app actually has album.exe in the executable. But I did the following...

I used camera 2.70 build 21026 and found album.exe text inside, (in hex) and changed it to albun.exe. I then created an app in \windows called albun.exe and all it does is shell Resco. So I then changed the shortcut/hardware button for camera to this new camera and that was it...

And it works.. but its not the easiest thing...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] VikluhaVaklay:
I consider that's software problem. For example: explain me why Nokia N93 can record video 640x480 25 frames per sec? Although it has the CPU about 200 MHz but with the good optical camera's characteristics.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] VikluhaVaklay:
The wanted resolution of the videorecording is 320 x 240, it's about 76800 pixels. One pixel takes 2 bytes of RAM without compressing. That means one frame takes about 150 kb of RAM. Wanted timeframe is 25 f/s, it's about 3.6 mb per sec! It's realy to write into flashcard, thats why I think that company makes software limit specially in order to make more money on models which except much minuses but have others...