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[Galaxy Note 3 General] vapotrini:
You just proved my point. It sounds great for a phone, and that's all we're asking for. No one is asking for boom box level sound, just more than what's being down played here.

Let's say you're watching a simple music video on youtube, you're all gonna sit there and tell me you wouldn't rather it sound fuller, louder & richer? Of course you would so stop blindly defending it.

The sound level on the One absolutely shames the Note, in every single way. Why is it so bad to ask for and expect more? Also, why are people here constantly defending device's short comings? No one is saying the device is crap, it's great! A few of us simply wish the sound level was improved.

Listen to how "crap" the One is...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9IwDQXccXg
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tubgirl:
Direct link t0 the section where the speaker is reviewed (6:21 into the clip)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LT6RkJd5LXw#t=385
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
I totally agree with you on most points. As long as it's clear and loud enough so I can hear it comfortably, I'm ok with the sound. Just so everyone's aware, the HTC One's sound level wasn't the best at times. I had 2 of them and both had decent levels but they wouldn't blow you away. The stereo speakers is what makes the difference. I would gladly take a more compact design on my Note 3 over front facing stereo speakers. These devices are already big enough. Just look at the HTC One Max. Just my opinion though. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I've found a huge flaw with the N3 and I haven't even received it yet; this forum. These are the categories that GSMArena reviewed on the SGS4 and typically touches on when their review any phone.

Design and handling

Display and controls

User interface

Air and motion gestures, Smart Screen, S Voice

Synthetic benchmarks

Phonebook, telephony, and messaging

Gallery, music and video players, audio quality

Camera

Connectivity, web browser, S Apps

Organizer, Google Apps, Google Play

Out of all those features that I'm interested in all I've heard is *****ing about the region lock, whether or not the N3 has aptX, the absence of Flash in the browser, and speaker loudness. Those harping on those issues are welcome to be it would be nice to hear some comments from people about the 10x as many more positive features of the N3 rather than festering over some negatives that, at least to me, are either livable or not really that significant.

I hope those that are miserable with the N3 return it and move on to another device. There are some pretty cool N3 owners and prospective owners so far but they are far outnumbered so far by people whining and complaining. And some of those don't own a N3 and never even contemplated getting one. I own a N2 that I'm happy with but to see other owners revere it as if it were the second coming of Christ is a bit much. And pointing out deficiencies is fine. My complaint isn't with the "what" it's with the "how" and "how many times."

Peace out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vapotrini:
Yeah that's why the One Max is out for me, too big.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MohJee:
Not so sure I'd trust that pocketnow video. He didn't even know that in Note3, Night Mode was replaced with Image Stabilization for low light shots which basically works the same way. I'm not a tech reviewer and I discovered that after fiddling with the phone in my first 10 minutes of using it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jutley:
I have had the n3 few days not and trust me its the best phone out there i have had all the top end phones even the new sony ultra way to big the note 3 is perfect.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
All of you are missing the point. The OP feels the speaker/sound quality is inferior to the previous model, which is counter to expectations. He never suggested it should replace his home theater system or car stereo.

Obviously any phone will sound better through earbuds or headphones.

The OP can apply all the EQ software fixes he wants, but that will never change the fact that the N3 speaker at baseline sounds worse (to him) than the N2. That is the point JCM800 is trying to make. He is probably trying to figure out if other N3 owners feel the same way and this is the case with all N3s, or whether he just got a bad unit.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
Early adopters always ready to cry thats why I always take my time.

Sent from the New S Pen
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yep - it's lost the depth, mid range throatiness, if it had that still for me the phone would be untouchable, that's why I'm so pissed at Samsung..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
And you are missing the point of an equalizer. I have a Bose surround set, and without equalizer settings it sounds like something you buy for 5 quid at Saturn.

I came from an HD2 to an S3. The S3 sounded awful next to the HD2. Until I changed the equalizer settings. That's the bloody point of them!

If the 2-8Khz frequency range is set too high, particularly without changing the 100hz down, it'll sound like you're listening to a plastic speaker in a tin can. If you listen to heavier music (of the metal variety), you need to decrease the 100hz range, and slightly, SLIGHTLY up the 2-8Khz range (This'll bring out the voice a bit more. If you prefer the music over the vocals, set it the other way 'round.). Also try shifting the middle range down a bit.

Merely decreasing the 100hz range alone does wonders for quality and depth. Takes out a lot of the plastic sound.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I messed around with the eq settings, I'm not thick. They made little difference, even if I found a passable audio balance - the sound is still thin and ****ty when watching You Tube videos, which wasn't the case on the note 2.

The friggin point I'm making is Samsung have dropped the ball audio wise with the note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Thanks, it was an in store purchase. Here in UK they're adamant that once the seal is broken, you're stuck with the phone unless there's an obvious fault with it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
WHAT?! :eek: They got rid of the popup browser???!! What the hell for?! I use that thing constantly on my N2 :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yep, it's gone, banished. I use it loads on note 2, it's bloody weird not having it once you're used to it, another error on Samsung's part.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
Have you tried to side load the apk from your N2?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
No, my note 3 is boxed up now ,back on my 2, great if that'd work tho
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I agree, would love to know if this is a doable workaround!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Patosbuddy:
Eye tracking is not working on mine.

I can see the icon but never start.

I have tested the main browsers on my note 2 and crome was never on my top list.

On my Note 3 it's outstanding faster than the rest.

Test it again if you was disappointed before with crome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
"Also, I find the back gets sweaty quickly"

Last I checked phones don't sweat. This sounds like a personal problem, not a phone problem.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
All I'm concerned about is getting an adapter for my Bose Sound docks. I have a 10 in the living room and a 2 in the master bathroom. I can't imagine using the phone speaker if I'm listening to music. Otherwise I just use my Klipsch ear buds, they are awesome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Unhived__Mind:
You all know there's apps that do the same thing. .right?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I've tried a few of them on my N7, they don't function as well as on the N2 ...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
Cause you use pen window now and draw a box for browser
[Galaxy Note 3 General] YankInDaSouth:
I understand that, but that won't work when clicking links from within another app ... sometimes I prefer just to use the popup browser instead of opening a whole other app. Oh well, I'll adjust I'm sure ... still dieing to get mine!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
I understand that too. I'm sure there will be an alternative and I knew right I just want mine lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Well if you use the s pen and open up the browser you will have the page with the link and the browser in a box so you can just copy and paste the link then close the browser as you would the pop up when you are done xD failing that I'm sure you could just find the apk for pop up browser
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kenq2001:
You don't want to trade your Note 3 with S4???
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
How often do you use the internal speakers on your phone?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
If he is there serious about his tones and depth he must have a music background and use his speaker 24/7 lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xManMythLegend:
Solution : Cup your hands around the speaker and create instant surround and bass boost.

The irony of wanting HQ sound and having youtube as your source.

The irony of wanting great speaker sound but not knowing what the EQ may do.

Listen I get what you guys want.. But the audio chip is supposed to be superb. The thing is rumored to support a very high bit rate bluetooth codec. IF this is what's actually being shipped Note 3.. On paper it would be one of the best high end smartphones in the audio department. Your assessment is the same as saying you returned your plasma because it makes your VHS tapes look crappy.

Seriously buy a pair of decent headphones or a BT speaker and live a little if audio quality is so important.

To make a thread title like to this over such an easily fixed reason is silly.

I've heard of alot of deal breakers speakers on a phone shouldn't be one of them.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Partridge86:
I can understand the worries about internal speaker audio as I have a Note 1. For a while I felt like it was great compared to my old Captivate speaker however the other day I was trying to play a video for my friend and we couldnt hear the audio (due to being in a semi crowded area) and he pulled out his new Iphone 5 and the audio blew mine away.. Thankfully he isnt one of those pretentious types and didnt start up the "my phones better than yours". However I too listen to my phone while taking a shower and even listen to sports radio when getting ready for work in the mornings. I have a bose audio system to use however I would much rather just carry my phone into the bathroom instead of hauling both every time. I also feel like people who say that this is just a phone are missing the point of having a Note. If all people wanted was a phone then they would buy a black berry however people buy these new smartphones for many reasons which include functions that use the internal speaker. This is one reason why I am debating on going One Max or Note 3 because they both have certain qualities and functions that make it a tough choice. (However if the One Max does have the snap800 then I will probably go for that.)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
Those of us in the glory days of PC gaming used to laugh at those who would complain about the internal speaker as well :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alpinesun:
WTF are you trying to do with the speakers on your phone? Host a party? Watch The Avengers? I'm certain that someone like yourself who's concerned with audio quality owns a pair of Audio Technica ATH-M50 or Bose QC20's... Right?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Daily.

I hope you all get the note 3, and get annoyed at the harsh audio, even if you don't admit it on here.

One more time... It's a flagship premium device... With tin pot audio,.. Supercurio is a well respected audio Dev, do you take the piss out of him for tinkering with mobile audio?

If audio doesn't matter to you, you're good to go with a note 3.

I've owned iPhone's for years, audio was never really a problem - Apple have a set up that works and stick with it, bar tweaking to gradually improve it. Samsung pay attention, If something works, ie speaker size and placement on note 2, stick with it, or improve it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Techweed:
I can't believe you just used the iPhone as a superior speaker having smartphone. That line of devices always had the lowest sounding tinny sound. Full volume and you can barely hear anything if there was even one normal volume conversation in the same room as you. I would know, I had every iPhone except for the 5 and my sister in law has that model so I still have experience with it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] americasteam:
But Apple says it's so. It has to be the truth. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vtjay:
This... The audio on my 4s and 5 were both crap, and I didn't care because it is a phone speaker, even the HTC one, the best audio currently, sounds good for a phone, but compared to actual speakers, it's crap
[Galaxy Note 3 General] monkey10120:
I don't know what you guys arguing about. While I watch a movie in my living room with my popcorn and note 3 in my recliner I have to do a double take and make sure my $2k Klipsch surround sound is off because I am blown away by the clarity and tones of this speaker. This is why I got the note 3 so I could achieve the same crisp highs and deep lows as my 10" tweeters and 15" sub on this amazing 1/3" speaker found not only in the n3 but every phone on the market today. Not only did they increase the quality they combined the terrible multiple speakers by joining them into 1 complete experience. I use my n3 for media 90%of the time and need it to put out the quality of my surround sound or it just isn't for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
I love it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xManMythLegend:
That's nice and all, but if your testicles aren't rattling every time your phone rings there something wrong with your phone speakers.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] foxmeister:
Have you actually tried? It is at the discretion of the seller, and I've returned several opened items before for a full refund without issue.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Thanks, but i got it from phone's 4u here in the UK, it's detailed in their returns policy that returns aren't accepted on sim free handsets.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] foxmeister:
I've never purchased from them so never had to return anything.

I must say though - for items like phones and tablets, I always buy online so I'm covered by distance selling regs which mean they have to offer a 7 day cooling off period.

Regards,

Dave
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
I was actually being sincere with my question.

I love my music, and I have my iems on at least 4 hours a day. So I can sympathize with what you are going through. If you use it daily and you feel that the speakers were "Nerfed" by Samsung. Then you have every right to be super grumpy at them for ruining a good thing that was consumer appreciated. I know I would be pissed at them for making that choice without considering the effects of how it would impact the consumers of the phone.

Also I am getting the GN3 and it will not bother me for one second. I take the decision making out their hands and make my daily use of the product more simplified and centered around how I use the piece of technology.

I hope if/when the speakers break in, it affects the sound in a way that works for you and the other folks who use the phone in this manner.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I agree, buying online would have been better, but I was on the stores doorstep keen to buy phone, a lesson learnt.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] on2a:
Agreed that's why I dislike buying in store, specifically from the likes of Phones4U...

Back to the topic at hand, I fully understand the OPs concerns. I think he realises he can plug in headphones, speakers etc but that's not always convenient. Especially when you are in the shower or away from your speaker dock and can't use headphones.

If this isn't a concern to you move on. For others it is a good point to note (no pun intended) so less of the flippant comments from those with nothing to add to this thread.

Finally I see a lot of needless defending of the Note3 as if a family member had been threatened. Let's all be a bit grown up about this. If people have legitimate concerns to share is good for us all to know...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JustinL01:
Actually if it is any way faulty or not up to standard they can put anything they want down but you are still covered by the 1979 consumer credit act do a bit of research and go back to the store armed and ready for a fight! all depends how much you want to pursue it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Thanks, sorry I just feel I'm being mocked for pointing out a flaw in Samsungs design philosophy.

I may sell it, it's only hope would be to get rooted and install Dsp manager, but, don't think that'd help much for you tube audio, if at all.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
As with anything you deem to be the linchpin of what makes a product that you use, everyone will not see eye to eye with you most of the time.

I am on the other end of the spectrum. I want them to put the best DAC in the device physically possible. I would gladly trade the internal speakers for that feature. But that's my point of view...

I hope you figure out a solution that works. Even try the IEM side of things.. It will make everything sound even better!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yeah understood, what matters to me doesn't to another.. It's cool, I've voiced my concerns about the audio, those that are interested are for warned, others who don't care move on.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Tubgirl:
I would have gladly added a few mm to the thickness of the Note and as a result get, better speaker, bigger battery and maybe even better camera.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Yep agreed, I feel it's too thin, and too light now, harder to handle single handed than my n2 is. Also the volume rockers and power buttons have moved, for me it's not a great design, others seem dazzled by it, I'm not.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] redpill2016:
The flippant comments began only after multiple repetitions of the same complaint. Why someone who was so concerned about external speaker sound wouldn't wait to hear it in person, or consider a phone with two front facing speakers like the HTC One is very odd, but then becomes annoying when it gets repeated over and over. Frankly it sounds like FUD more than anything.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stepinmyworld:
so true... just like LG and that terrible audio quality coming from the speakers.. i get so tired of people making excuses for these manufacturers saying that if you want better speaker quality, go buy something else or plug in some external speakers... No.. why can't Samsung enhance the damn phone including the speakers? i keep hearing reports of the speakers being worse than the note 2 and i actually could stand the note 2 speakers but after using the htc one with those great speakers, going backwards for Samsung is unacceptable and especially without an explanation from Samsung.. didn't they say "we listened to you" when showcasing this phone? evidently not.. this is another case of people not wanting to state the facts about a terrible decision on Samsung's part because if they do, they'd be bashing their own phone and nobody wants to say their phone has a flaw lol...smh baffles me.

Im getting the note 3 hopefully early next week if t mobile ever ships it.. but when i do get it, i hope i can tolerate the speaker because i passed on the lg g2 because of it's crappy speaker i heard in the Verizon store.. it's a media device and i should be abe to enjoy it as such without a tin can sound... i refuse to invest in that mess. Samsung can do better. PERIOD

and to those that dont mind the crappy audio quality this phone MAY have, go away because obviously yall dont get it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I hear you, and agree with you. Put it this way mate - if you like bass in your music, there isn't much, there's volume but it's so harsh you need to turn it down. Same applies to you tube audio, horrible sound.

And if anyone thinks I'm a broken record - tough, I spent £620 on this device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stepinmyworld:
cool.. i just hope it's not extreme treble ..i saw a video from the Chinese youtube website comparing the audio quality of the note 3 and some other device... it was actually pretty good and sounded at least a good as the note 2 but listening through the computer can be very very deceiving. we shall see. i hope you can find a way to enjoy the device. google needs to have a minimum requirement for all manufactures to at least have iphone quality speakers on every device that runs android. (not the low range phone maybe) but these pc like phones need more attention in that department.. HTC understood and created BOOM Sound.

much love and enjoy the device if you can
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Sadly, between the note 2 & 3 the note 2 is superior as a multimedia device imo.

Many ppl mock me for moaning about the audio on a mobile like the n3, I'm pissed about it, almost feel like mailing Samsung and voicing my opinions as well.

Thanks for seeing my side, I agree with your outlook mate, I hope you enjoy the phone yourself when you get one.

Peace.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I should add tho.. The sound thru earphones on the note 3 is fantastic to my ears, no complaints about that.

Perhaps Samsung focused on that instead of the external speaker?..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Jammol:
Take it back, send it back, whichever. If it's that bad for you. You have that right as a consumer. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gingerdude:
http://panamoz.com/index.php/mobile...05-16gb-full-hd-amoled-sim-free-unlocked.html

QUOTE=JCM800

And if anyone thinks I'm a broken record - tough, I spent £620 on this device.[/QUOTE]

Should have got it from here as only £525 inc vat ..... may have saved some moaning :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Can't, policy here in UK is once seal is broken and phone used forget it re returning it. Unless there's an obvious fault.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Should have got it from here as only £525 inc vat ..... may have saved some moaning :)[/QUOTE]

LOL that would have sweetened the deal some what, nice price, have you ordered one from them then?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Yachats:
Have you tried an equalizer to adjust the tone to what you prefer ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Graz:
I keep seeing OP toss around the thought that 'this is Samsung's flagship device'. Considering all of the phones Samsung makes in all versions & sizes (not to mention all of their tablets)...I actually very seriously doubt that Samsung sees the Note as their 'flagship' device.

I would guess that the S4 is the most important phone for Samsung in terms of volume, revenue, and profit...and thus, for Samsung at least, would be considered the flagship device for them.

Anyway, I could not possibly care less about smartphone speaker audio quality. If I can hear the thing render a ringtone then it has served the only function that I expect out of it. As another mentioned, I care far more about the audio codec and the sound coming out of the headphone jack. I use high end, custom fitted IEMs (UE11 pro) for all of my audio needs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I used it like I use my note 2, used the inbuilt eq, perhaps an aftermarket eq would help, but I feel it shouldn't be needed.

I'm hoping the phone gets root, and dsp manager can be used. But I don't think that'd cure the thin overall sound of the phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gingerdude:
LOL that would have sweetened the deal some what, nice price, have you ordered one from them then?[/QUOTE]

Nope but will do once I get paid, actually if you pay via bank transfer its only £498 inc vat.

Have done some research on them and they seem to have a good track record, glad you took my message in the spirit it was sent in.