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[Android General] carlost24:
So im new to AR but purchasing a new HU (AppRadio3, pioneer SPH-DA210) i came across this app and it seems to really unleash the capabilities of my HU compatibility with my phone, i will be putting the unit in next week professionally from best buy, im just making sure things are on point with this install as ive read post of plenty of members having their own modifications to get the system just right, im completely new to this, only knowledge being what ive read the past few days, my questions start with cables.. In the picture below shows what i found to be an essential kit in order to get my nexus 5 stock rooted running on the HU with the touches and apps on the HU registering on my phone, basically controlling my phone through my HU, will these cables suffice? Any other tips? Tricks? Or anything i would need to know please don't hesitate to point it out, all the feedback would be greatly appreciated...
[Android General] evillela2001:
I had the same issue when I initially got my Nexus 5. First be sure you are using a good quality slimport adapter (I have the analogix) and also use a hdmi cable with ferrite cores (I have the monoprice brand I got from Amazon) that should take care of your flickering and snow. Reason this stuff is needed is because cars emit so much noise. That's why it works for you in your house but not your car. I have this same issue with another slimport adapter I have (cable matters brand) it works on my TV but not my car. Good luck.
[Android General] Chinbone:
Thank you

ARU is amazing! Just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work. Everything is working great, with just an occasional hiccup. I'm running a VZW HTC One M7 on debloated but otherwise stock Sense6 4.4.2 with the Kangaroo Kernel. I have only had my Appradio 3 installed for a week, but it wasn't near as much work as I thought getting it humming along. I couldn't be happier. I'll be donating for your time, once I can find that link again. :laugh:

Edit- Ya, the link was pretty obvious. haha Confirmation #xxxx7499L7528344S
[Android General] Xen256:
You don't need the Pioneer kit. All they're selling you is $12 of standard cables for $60, a couple of which you won't need anyway.

What you do need is good quality cables. I'm running a Galaxy S3 which has the MHL output for HDMI.I think the Nexus is the same. I tried a knock-off MHL adapter and it didn't work, so went with the Samsung branded one from Best Buy and it did work. Also tried 2 different HDMI cables before one worked. So AppRadio does seem to be fairly cable sensitive.

The one issue I was having was with getting the S3 to maintain a charge while runnin AppRadio, as the MHL adapter wouldn't allow enough current to go in as fast as it was using battery (common issue with the MHL adapters no matter the brand). Even testing in the house on the Samsung wall charger + MHL/HDMI to my receiver was draining pretty fast.

Today I found a combination that seemed to work. I used a charging specific USB cable from RedBandTM on Amazon (not enough posts to post links yet) and plugged it into the Pioneer unit itself to power the phone. I didn't think this would work since my relatively high-power USB car charger (2.1A) wouldn't maintain enough charge, but coming from the head unit itself for power (Pioneer says 1.6A per port) it maintained 100% charge for 30 minutes of driving while using AppRadio. The MHL adapters notoriously don't like to let more than 500ma through (i.e. USB charging mode vs. AC mode) but directly off the head unit it worked.

So bottom line, no, you don't need the Pioneer kit, just a good HDMI and/or MHL adapter and/or good USB cable.

Other than that AppRadio unchained has been mostly rock solid for me other than some finicky bluetooth connection, which sounds like Area51 has been tweaking, so looking forward to testing in the next version.

-SJ
[Android General] 400ixl:
I take it you are plugging the USB port from your stereo directly into the phone to try to use it as a mass storage device? If so, I'm not sure it will work like that with Samsung devices as they break the standards and require Kies for it to work. A couple of others have tried and failed to get it to work.

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You will need a genuine Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter for that phone rather than the one that comes with the Pioneer kit as Samsung do not use the standards for MHL.

Also, CyanogenMod ROM is known to have some issues with MHL at times. May work fine, r may not work at all (or somewhere inbetween).

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Nexus 5 uses Slimport, not MHL which is what would come in that kit.
[Android General] Area51©:
Almost right but for a Nexus5 you need a Slimport adapter. A good one is the Analogix SP1003. Also need a good quality HDMI cable with ferrite cores, usb cable and a 12V to 5V power adapter capable of delivering 2A. Best to use a hardwired one.
[Android General] Area51©:
No not yet, just been busy getting stuff to work. Will do later.
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks. Your donation (since it's 20$ or more) entitles you to a free license for the AppRadio Unchained Reloaded app that I am working on now. An alpha version will be available somewhere next week in the Play store. Please send me a pm with the following details:

- Country where you live

- Your gmail address that is linked to the play store.

- Head unit type
[Android General] AKM03:
I think I figured why my USB isn't connecting from the AVH 4000 NEX to my galaxy note 3 SM-N900. It's possibly due to the MTP mode. I believe if there was a mass storage mode that will work, kinda like a USB stick. I don't think the firmware in my HU is properly picking up MTP, all it does is charge the phone. You need a kennel that has UMS enable for mass storage however the international note 3 SM-N900 currently does not have such kernels. There is only 3.... To my surprise. Maybe the last time I ever go with international models again. If anyone finds away around this let me know thanks.
[Android General] MonkeyTime:
Care to pm the link to that cable? I did a quick search at Amazon, but it didn't find that cable. The charging issue is all l need to sort out.

Sent from my Hyperdriven S4!
[Android General] carlost24:
So it wouldn't work with that pioneer kit? Or you guys just giving me a more affordable alternatives?
[Android General] Area51©:
From the Pioneer kit you can only use the power supply and some cables. Since your Nexus 5 uses a Slimport adapter you can't use the MHL adapter from the Pioneer kit so you would have to buy a Slimport adapter anyway.
[Android General] carlost24:
Pm'ed you Area51
[Android General] lpasq:
If fellow members have battery drain due to not being able to blank phone screen when mirroring, consider testing app above. Responsive developer. See below:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53565257
[Android General] 400ixl:
This is because Samsung believe they are above industry standards and don't apply them fully, not just on International versions. They force you to use their Kies software on the connecting device.

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Search for analogix sp1003 which is the Slimport most people have found to be reliable.
[Android General] AKM03:
Got aru to work!

FINALLY! I was able to track down an official Samsung MHL 2.0 adapter...costed 60 bucks...and now ARU works...touch screen is responsive everything seems fine so far! I still can't get the USB to my Note 3 functioning yet. I had the Samsung MHL 1.0 original which worked on the TV for my note 3 but for some reason didn't with my 4000NEX, the 2.0 MHL worked. Anyone with a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N900) model and is having trouble getting app radio to work/mirror you NEED the 2.0 adapter. Thanks for those that have been putting up with my noob questions and helping me out. Great community! I may need help setting up a tasker profile for screen standby and rotation locker..never used those programs before.

now time to go play...:cool:
[Android General] carlost24:
Where are you guys buying your usb power supply box? Been looking all morning and cant seem to find one
[Android General] nycqns983:
OK great thanks!
[Android General] bradleyem:
I just picked up a Samsung MHL 2.0 adapter to use with my Note 3 as well. Now my phone is charging in the car. Still not the full 1200-1400 mA that I get with the stock AC charger, but I'm getting 700 mA so it should charge faster than it drains. With some more power saving tweaks (phone screen off, GPS injector) I should be good. My GPS on the phone sucks with MHL plugged in anyway. I'll probably wait for reloaded vs buying the GPS injector app. I may try the new screen management app that was posted though. The connection is definitely better and no longer flickers when I go over bumps.

For a charger, I use the one that came with the Pioneer android connection kit. I may try to hack it to get moar current :)

Making big progress with my Note 3 running KitKat!
[Android General] carlost24:
Nice glad things are coming along, was looking for the power supply that comes in the pioneer kit but didnt find it separately so i got this...
[Android General] bradleyem:
Yeah, that's probably a better one anyway. IIRC the Pioneer USB charger is only 1.5A. But, I already had it.
[Android General] derrickmd18:
Will this work with the avh3600 model?
[Android General] zr2ee:
if only this worked with MHL https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power?ref=discovery
[Android General] 400ixl:
No, Appmode is only for Apple products on that model.

Android Compatibility

Works with Android

Compatible GenerationsCompatible Android phones with Android V4.0 and higher. (For Android V2.3, please download the Pioneer App)

Supported Functions• Battery charging

• List browsing

• Music playback

Only A2DP bluetooth music streaming works with Android.
[Android General] jdpdata:
What does this do exactly? Is this like ScreenStandby?

ScreenStandy works for my N5, but occasionally it blanks out my screen so I can turn it back on.

Does this eliminate that problem? If so, I'll try it.
[Android General] Pig Vomit:
An update....

My gear:

Nexus 5, Rooted, Stock, Android 4.4.4 (yeah, they already released another version), ART Runtime

Pioneer AVH-4000NEX

Analogix Slimport Adapter

Micro USB Extension from USBFireWire.com

When I last posted, I was having trouble with my soft buttons. Checked calibration, everything was fine. I finally figured it out. It was because I am a dumbass. Determined I was only having the trouble when I wasn't in full screen mode. Something about the Pioneer AppRadio soft buttons interfering with the soft button input for Android. And the only reason I wasn't in full screen mode is because....wait for it...guys don't like to read manuals. So I finally ended up reading the manual because on a fluke I ended up on full screen and couldn't figure out how to get back to it (push the home button twice within a couple seconds). And I noticed that when in full screen there are never any problems with the soft buttons. So that was the problem there.

As for the trouble with not having touch enabled for the Android screen on the Pioneer HU, Area51's suggestion that I disconnect and reconnect Bluetooth solved the problem.

It's now working reliably and trouble free. And the upgrade to Android 4.4.4 didn't seem to change things.

Thanks to everyone who provided helpful suggestions.
[Android General] Fpd1975x:
I recently updated from 4.3 to 4.4.2 and all of a sudden I can't get any touch response after the calibration screen, also when calibrating the screen flickers then and only then. Might try to revert to 4.3 if i can't find a fix soon. I'm using an AT&T note 3
[Android General] evillela2001:
You might need to re-root after the ota update. Check your root status.
[Android General] 400ixl:
That and Knox is now enabled, so its custom kernel time if one exists for the phone / carrier combo.

If the bootloader is locked then you can't enable a custom kernel and may not be able to drop back to 4.3 either.

Another reason to never take an OTA update without doing the research first. And once on a custom Kernel you should never ever take an OTA update without restoring the OEM Kernel first.

Don't you just love Samsung!
[Android General] lpasq:
It is an alternative to Screen Standby and as of build 1.2.5 seems to work well for me. I have it not locking out screen after disconnect by using it through Tasker. The app runs stand alone, like Screen Standby or is incorporated as a Tasker plug in. Developer is really responsive at this stage. Good luck.
[Android General] Fpd1975x:
Already re rooted. Also changed my selinux with no result
[Android General] farmerbb:
Well it's primarily meant to be a resolution/DPI changer for external displays, but I've been working with [MENTION=281388]lpasq[/MENTION] to ensure that it works well as a Screen Standby alternative for AppRadio users. Just create a new profile and check the "Backlight off" option. It should work on most Snapdragon and Tegra devices including Nexus 5.
[Android General] jdpdata:
ipasq do you mind sharing your Tasker profile with me?
[Android General] Fpd1975x:
Got pureROM for 4.4.2 ATT note 3 running with no change in result as far as AR goes.
[Android General] lpasq:
When disconnecting, I have an extra BT Off task, ignore it... I had a period when testing that BT would not turn off so I left the duplicate BT Off in the profile.
[Android General] fil327:
Samsung S4

Again, I don't know why but all is fine with my Samsung S4, accept for Screen Standby restarts my phone on occasion. I'm rooted and have stock everything else, I use Selinux app to change to permissive and Nova launcher. I have touch and I have been good to go, I don't know why it works for me and not other Samsung users but just wanted to share.
[Android General] jdpdata:
Thanks ipasq. My Tasker profiles are very similar to yours. My wait times are less though, only about 3-4 secs.

Why are yours so high?

Been testing SecondScreen, seems to work OK. But I did noticed that my screen turned on when I got a text message.

Need further testing to see if it turns back off.
[Android General] lpasq:
I have wait set as it was back when testing ARU originally. I could shorten them but it all works with 100% connection success. I do know I could halve the delay times at a minimum. Bluetooth handshake sequence/timing does vary between users based on various variables. I know I can't run waits as short as you though. I have gotten EvolveSMS pop-up text dialogs several times driving today with SecondScreen actively blanking device screen. My phone is stored in closed console so I can't confirm the screen turned on. However, every time I pulled phone to exit vehicle, the screen was off. I'll pay better attention tomorrow when going to work.
[Android General] farmerbb:
The backlight will turn back on when a change in screen brightness occurs. [MENTION=4395542]jdpdata[/MENTION], does the SMS app you are using alter the screen brightness at all?

I have an alternative backlight off method coming in the next version of SecondScreen that should fix this behavior.
[Android General] jdpdata:
I use Hangout, not aware of it changing brightness levels. I'll keep testing and report back. Thanks!
[Android General] Area51©:
If you type getenforce in a terminal what does it say? If you don't get Permissive, ARU won't get touch on a Samsung device.
[Android General] c3hutson:
Just picked up a galaxy s5 through AT&T yesterday. I have an appradio 2.

I am about to buy THIS MHL adapter and am curious if anyone has recommendations on an hdmi cable? Rocketfish price is pretty solid...

Also, what rom/kernel is recommended?
[Android General] Fpd1975x:
I get "getenforce: not found" should I just keep trying roms till it works?
[Android General] sshams95:
Can you provide the recommended profile & settings? I just bought the app and I tried the 1080p Monitor and DPI shrunk pretty bad. I'm sure my settings are not correct.
[Android General] farmerbb:
Create a new profile and check the "Backlight off" option. None of the built-in profiles are appropriate for the AppRadio.
[Android General] sshams95:
Thank you!
[Android General] Powerbasske:
batt draining

first of all, i want to say thanks to everyone involved in ARunchained and everybody helped me with tasker and screen standby

but now i was driving and notices that my battery of my nexus 5 went down 20% in like an hour

its connected to my appradio thru Delock Adapter SlimPort / MyDP male > High Speed HDMI female + USB micro-B female

i read that flashing your phone to another kernel will fix that, is it true and will it effectifly help ?

and what kernel then ? (bit scared of flashing, never done it bfore)

thanks for your help in advance

sorry for my bad grammer
[Android General] tech by trade:
Try turning the GPS off on your phone and using AR injector.
[Android General] Powerbasske:
gps is off and ar injector is installed

even if i dont use gps software like waza or tomtom it goes down real quick
[Android General] Area51©:
I don't have a Samsung, all I know is that SELinux should be in permissive mode. I looked at the thread of the rom you mentioned and all it said that Knox was removed but nothing about SELinux. Maybe you should ask there? Sorry that I can't help you more with this.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
according to ur Sig you have a note 3 by ATT . ur boot loader is locked and u cant replace the kernel no matter how many ROMs u try. so u wont be able to change the SE LINUX to permissive in any way... im on the same boat...
[Android General] stayupthetree:
Any thoughts to incorporating some features from Screen Standby http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1934495 into Reloaded?
[Android General] Powerbasske:
fixed it i think, instead of screen standby im using secondscreen

that actually completly kills my screen backlight what for some reason screen standby didnt do

now it uses about 2% batt while charging but running bunch of apps like waze, musicplayer and others :)
[Android General] grippa:
I'm using arunchained and the aru gps, they both work flawlessly, thanks!

My issue is that my htc one m7 screen appears a bit shrunk on the appradio screen on all four sides, may be about 5-10px. Any idea how I could fix this and get it full screen? Thanks.
[Android General] bigcid10:
I use nova launcher and that fixed that issue for me

if I use the stock launcher ,I have the same problem
[Android General] grippa:
thanks, tried that, but doesnt make any difference. everything is ok on 4.4.2 though. its only on 4.4.3.
[Android General] lpasq:
Give the SecondScreen app a try (Play Store). You can fiddle with custom resolution output to HDMI input. Also, you can have it shut off phone screen to conserve battery when connected to head unit. Dev on XDA and actively developing app with user feedback.
[Android General] cisco150:
my note 3 wont work with this app (touch screen on reciver-control phone from radio) im rooted and busybox. i install the appradio from play store and carkeyboard and all works as in control the phone from the head unit touch screen
[Android General] bradleyem:
What carrier? What version of Android is on it? (Go to settings> About Phone) If the Android Version is KitKat 4.4.2 or later then SE Status for Android must be "Permissive" and not "Enforcing" (This is separate from rooting, and also listed in "About Phone") Depending on the carrier (Verizon, T-Mobile, etc) there may or may not be a solution to set SELinux Permissive and make it work.
[Android General] cisco150:
im on att on kitkat and i use couple custom roms and offical roms
[Android General] bradleyem:
Are any if them able to set SELinux "Permissive"? Touch will not work otherwise...

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Some people have reported mixed results with setting SELinux "Permissive" via SSH commands and also automating the process using Tasker, but I don't know the details of what phones/carriers have had success. Samsung phones also have a third protection layer (Knox) that must be dealt with as well. I put off updating to KitKat until recently, but I was able to install a custom ROM that is Knox disabled and SELinux Permissive and pre-rooted. I'm on Verizon though, so I don't know if there is such a ROM that you can use.
[Android General] cisco150:
how can i do this - SELinux "Permissive" via ST commands
[Android General] bradleyem:
Install "Android Terminal Emulator" from the play store

Run terminal emulator

Type "su 0 setenforce 0" (without the quotes) and hit Enter

Grant Superuser if asked

Type "getenforce" Enter

If it says "Permissive" then the command worked

If it says "Enforcing" it didn't, and likely Knox is preventing it from working.

If it does work, the command would need to be run on every reboot.

You could also try an app called "SELinux Mode Changer"from the play store.

But, as I said, your results may vary.
[Android General] cisco150:
Thanks ill try that
[Android General] ice_coffee:
I think it has been mentioned a few times that at&t are the only only provider to lock the boot loader, meaning it isn't possible to set SeLinux permissive.

Sorry but you need to change carrier
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
it has been mentioned roughly 400 times lol
[Android General] leobg:
I now use M8 and it has the same problem. It is called HDMI over scan and for some reason HTC shrunk it without allowing to adjust overscan. Apparently GPE kernel doesn't do that, only stock sense. At least for M8, but I'm pretty sure M7 too.

Aforementioned second screen app has over scan adjustment, you could try that. I have not yet as my M8 is still unrooted.
[Android General] grippa:
i tried the app, when i increase the overscan it further shrinks it. if only the second screen supported minus values.
[Android General] leobg:
Have you tried using different kernel?
[Android General] grippa:
i have not, however so far i've gathered the following for the stock kernels;

gpe <= 4.4.2 = full screen

gpe >= 4.4.3 = screen shrunk / overscan issue

sense 5.5 / 6 = screen shrunk / overscan issue
[Android General] Zeggi:
Hi!

I used to have a S3 runing both stock rom/kernel but with root and also custom roms which have been stock based.

My AVH-X8500BT worked fine with the following cable,

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A2OBO6S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Charge rate was perfect for the S3.

So now to my problem.

I got a GT-i9506 (which is the S4 4G+)

The charge rate is if in not misstaken at 500mha which is ok but the main problem is with the same cable the picture goes blank after a random of a few minutes and then its just a black screen after 5-10seconds i get only sound from the phone to my car speakers.

I can get around the problem by pressing pend between sources on the stereo and i got my picture back on the main (stereo) screen.

So im wondering if anyone of you guys have had the above issue, is it down to my cable?

Its still working with my old S3.

I have the same problem with both my i9505 and i9506.

If its the cable can someone recommend a cable that works with the S4, i would like to avoid any kind of adapters if possible.

Thanks for any help and thanks alot for this amazing application! :good:
[Android General] hghflyrjd1:
Slow Touch Responce Now

I seem to have the connection down. But now the touch response is super lagged.any fixes?
[Android General] jdpdata:
Who's excited to see Android Auto coming soon?

http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/25/...ed_RSS3&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget

Hopefully Pioneer will join the Open Automotive Alliance. I'd like to see a wireless solution though. Enough with all these cables!
[Android General] outcastrc:
What i am curious about is chrome casts mirroring that was announced today at Google io . Maybe we could use it with AppRadio?

Chromecasts are currently on sale in Canada for 20 bucks. (comes with a 20 buck play credit.