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[Android General] FlyingHippo:
Does anyone have a "always connected"-solution that works?

Im having some severe connection issues. Its annoying me so much, that I am seriously considering getting rid of the appradio and just installing a Nexus 7 instead.

My setup is as follows:

Galaxy S2 in the glovebox, never leaves the car and always connected.

Generic MHL adaptor (Works perfectly when connected)

If I only use the car to and from work each day (thereby only connecting to the radio 1 time in the morning and 1 in the afternoon), It always connects.

But if I drive for 5-10 mins, turn off the car, and then come back to the car 10 mins later or so, 8 times out of 10 the phone wont connect to the radio. Only way to fix this is to

1. turn of the car/radio

2. disconnect the phone

3. reboot the phone

4. plug in the phone

5. turn on the car/radio

When it doesnt connect the bluetooth still works, but the Android-icon on the radio never appears it just shows the standard geryed-out "Apps"-icon.

Does anyone have a similar setup with a dedicated phone thas always connected which works everytime they turn on the car?
[Android General] stargate125645:
In my experience there is no need to restart the car or phone. The BT connection should happen regardless so you only have to unplug and plug the phone to get the full mirroring. This was a symptom of my Galaxy S3 as well. Doesn't happen as much with my LG G3. It may be the head unit at fault or the phone, but it seems to me no signal of an HDMI connection is being sent so I would reckon it is the phone at fault. Your non-official adapter may not help, either. I never found a preventative solution. Sorry.
[Android General] FlyingHippo:
I have tried unplugging and replugging the phone

disabling and enabling bluetooth

shutting down the ARU app and restarting it.

The only thing that works is rebooting the phone as described above.

I might try leaving my other phone (Galaxy Nexus) in the glovebox instead to see if that changes anything...
[Android General] Area51©:
What you described is that you don't get an HDMI output signal. This depends only on the MHL adapter and the phone's firmware.

Apparently there's a difference between restarting you car after 10 minutes or after 8+ hours. You did not describe how your phone is powered. Is it powered continuously or is the power switched or even switched off with a delay (some cars do that)?
[Android General] stargate125645:
That doesn't make sense. If the BT connection is complete, unplugging and plugging the phone back in should suffice. I would be shocked if it's not one of the following: Either your phone's ROM is kaput, your MHL adapter is faulty (never go generic!), or your power source for the adapter is faulty or intermittent.
[Android General] donroja:
I'm kind of thinking it is the difference between the two head units... Possibly the bluetooth module or something to that effect. From everything that I've read, people are having much better luck with 4.2.x and above on the ar3... Who knows? Thanks for help and your reply, but I'm thinking I'm just gonna tether my note 2 while driving since it connects without fail... Anyway to get texts and phone calls on the head unit while tethering?
[Android General] stargate125645:
Try TabletTalk. It is the only way I have found but I haven't tried it personally. Let us know how it works if you try it. I have an AR2 still that I can mess with but do not have a power supply for it. I can test when I next make it to my friend's audio store. If I had to bet, I'd say it is the phone resolution and that Reloaded would work for you. What's it hurt to try? I highly doubt Pioneer changed internals (I'm obviously not sure though).
[Android General] donroja:
Check this out Stargate... Im at a point where i can start the connection process, i get the bluetooth guy/signal on the headunit, then instead of the guy turning green he goes to blue/gray (like usual with this phone), i press him and go to bt settings, unpair from the headunit and then phone and then repair from phone and it connects everytime! What could possibly be causing that? This is a workaround, i guess, but defintely not ideal or real world workable...
[Android General] stargate125645:
You may be able to avoid that entirely if you select autoconnect as "off". Then you would just manually connect your phone each time (provided it recognizes the HDMI signal). I have a remote start on my car, and whenever I start the car that way, I don't get into my car in enough time for the autoconnect to work, so I have to manually connect it through the BT menu. It is a 5 second exercise so I don't mind it, but I hope there's something that can be done in the future by Area51 in his Reloaded application.
[Android General] chawski:
Im getting the same problem as listed above, where it will connect maybe 50% of the time. I never have a problem with the mirroring, its just that touch does not work on the AR3. Ive had to delete and re-instal the app a few times now.

Using a galaxy s3, 4.4.2, stock rooted, official samsung mhl.
[Android General] Area51©:
If you switch off Autoconnect you can also try the following:

- press the Apps Icon

- press Ignore in the BT connection dialog

- touch the HU screen a few times

- now the HU should connect
[Android General] Slash8915:
So, I randomly started having issues with ARU on my G3. It worked perfect at first, but now there seems to be an issue with the resolution. When i connect my phone to my AR2, the image looks shortened and stretched.
[Android General] FlyingHippo:
I have 2 usb powersources available, the 500ma from the radio, and a 1500ma connected directly to the cars 12v rail.

Either one works just as good/bad

I guess it might be the MHL adapter i have thats bad.

The one i have looks exactly like this

ttp://klikglodok.com/toko/img/cms/Micro%20USB%20to%20HDMI%20MHL%20Adapter%20klikglodok%202.jpg

Which one should i get instead?

A genuine Samsung? or a slimport adapter?

Can you please give me a link to a specific product?

Im using a Samsung Galaxy S2 btw.
[Android General] stargate125645:
Order the one directly from Samsung for your phone. SlimPort is an entirely different technology. I would also stick with the power directly from your car and not the head unit. My USB power supply is 3A, which may be overkill, but you definitely won't get much done on 0.5A.

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Have you searched for posts on Samsung phones? So many problems due to security updates...I would go back to 4.1.2 if you still want to use your Galaxy S3.

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Do you use any other software during connection, like SecondScreen?
[Android General] Slash8915:
No, nothing. The only thing that changed was that I changed out the stock media_profiles.xml with a modded one that improves the picture and video quality of the camera slightly.
[Android General] chawski:
Stargate,

I have seen some issues with samsung phones, but it has worked for a few days now and all of a sudden, stopped working. Other than downgrading to 4.1, do you know of any workarounds for 4.4?
[Android General] stargate125645:
Don't take OTA updates without doing due diligence of learning its effect. You have to get rid of all security, which means SELinux and Knox, and maybe others. If you cannot, you have to downgrade to ROM and kernel without the security which would be 4.1.2.
[Android General] chawski:
Yea I just got the 4.4 Ota about a week ago. I tried not installing but it did it overnight on me. I'll research a bit and see if I can disable the Knox crud somehow
[Android General] stargate125645:
Freeze the OTA software updater next time. I don't know how to get rid of the security as I have never had to or I'd help further. Sorry.
[Android General] chawski:
You have lead me in the right direction, thanks!
[Android General] reynoldsrobbie:
Shouldn't you not even get OTA updates if you're rooted? I have a note 3 and update after I get the go ahead from a dev. I never get an OTA because it's disabled.
[Android General] chawski:
I rooted after the update unfortunately
[Android General] stargate125645:
It's disabled if something disables it, such as a custom ROM. Not all devices are the same.
[Android General] chawski:
Im trying to play with the security stuff, but knox should have been disabled when I rooted. I could have sworn supersu disabled it when i installed. Im wondering what could have changed with my security seeing as it has worked as described for a few days now...
[Android General] AliMusa:
What kernel are you guys using? I feel like my kernel is part of the issues I'm having. What kernel are the people that aren't having any problems at all running?
[Android General] chawski:
Im on the stock kernel. And to top it off, not even sure I can change it at this point. My phone has had issues connecting to my computer so not sure I'll be able to do much as far as changing it without being able to attach as a media device
[Android General] mad212:
You don't need to connect to a computer to change kernels. You can change kernels by flashing with a custom recovery such as twrp. However, if you're not familiar with flashing roms and kernels I would do some research first.
[Android General] chawski:
I definitely need to read up on it. its been years since Ive messed with roms/kernels
[Android General] stargate125645:
What makes you think Knox was disabled by rooting? You only get access; you still have to disable software on the phone as far as I know. Stock kernel also has the SELinux issues I mentioned, I believe. If you can't get around that, you need a non-stock kernel, or an older one without the security.
[Android General] cslee_work:
Any luck on the SWC control.

Everything works great. I am sure GPS is working on mine with google maps.
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes just got SWC working. I only found 2 things to control though. Next track and previous track. Thing like volume up & down, select source etc. are handled by the radio and not sent to the phone. There might be another command like pause/play but I don't know how to get that through SWC. It might only be available by remote control.

So what can you control through the SWCs in your car?
[Android General] cslee_work:
Yeah that's what I have the up/down buttons for with ARL. This works much more reliable. I didn't program my SWC, you can map it to other functions as needed but I left it as default.
[Android General] Area51©:
Ok, I guess it's ready then. It will be in the next release. I won't make it today because I just made one last night.

Now I only have to get GPS from the radio working.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Same here. Wheel remote only control Track next track and Previous track and long press is FF and RW
[Android General] -=Jeff=-:
I am not having luck getting the stick working..

Similar issues..

Touch is detected but not cursor

Also I have the touch set to shwo when I touch,

If I start top left and move across, the cursor speeds past my finger, but they start together

if I move top down, cursor stops 1/2 so it is a bit slower.. I do have XY Inverted check so it tracks somewhat correct, btu I then there is an issue with the invert and touch movement

Also the touch does not work, it will work for the Calibration screen but nothing else,

Let me know what else I can try.. I do have the same stick you have Area51..
[Android General] jalyst:
Woops sorry, I meant to say Pioneer not Panasonic!

After reading the small group of posts I referenced, that should've been clear.

I'll re-post it here so you don't have to dig-it-up:

@ Area51

Re this chat we had from approx. #301 to #305... Is anything clearer on that front yet?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1622795&page=31

Must we still use only the AppRadio head-units, or can we now use other Pioneer head-units?

Thank-you!
[Android General] Area51©:
Can you try the original app? Try it with the maps thing to see if it tracks the cursor location and shows touches correctly.

I am pretty sure it's not an ARU issue. It's much more likely it's an android kernel driver problem.

There's also an other guy getting a similar stick. He's really into android os development. He's going to try ARU. I am waiting on him to report back.
[Android General] Area51©:
Only AppRadios (from Pioneer). So my answer was correct anyway.

Many things should be clear however I am not a psychic and have no idea what you are thinking nor do I want to assume to know what you may be thinking.
[Android General] jalyst:
I didn't intend to cause offense with any of my wording, my sincerest apologies if I did.

Did you read those posts I referenced?

Assuming you did, why would AppRadio Unchained not be usable on Pioneer HU's

other than

the "AppRadio" units?

Many of their top-end HU's still do use some form of AppRadio (amongst other things).

Thank-you.

HU = head-unit
[Android General] papa3r:
Hallo Jalyst.....

My HU is not AppRadio...its DVD receiver but its suport appradio software.....ARU working perfect on my AVH-X8550bt.....

I think the other pioneer product if they suport for android (HDMI input added) than it will work whit ARU to....:victory:
[Android General] Area51©:
Ok, I see what you mean now. Basically AppRadio Unchained supports any AppRadio (compatible) device that is supported by the original Pioneer AppRadio app for Android. I don't know exactly which Pioneer devices support AppRadio for Android. I have a survey (see first post) in which people can report about ARU and they reported using it with AppRadio 2, AppRadio 3, AVIC-F950, AVH-X8500BHS and AVH-X8550BT. But I think there is at least one more model that supports it: AVIC-Z150BH.
[Android General] jalyst:
W00t so happy! Now to get back to deciding whether I

really

prefer Pioneer...

It was on my (very) short-list after some serious whittling, but that was quite some time ago.

If Pioneer is it, then it looks like their top-end unit for Australasia is supported by ARU!

This is the Pioneer I was most likely to get at the time, & it's supported:

http://www.pioneer.com.au/au/products/25/109/281/AVH-X8550BT/page.html

This is also of some interest, the name sounds similar to the model you mentioned, supported?

http://www.pioneer.com.au/au/products/25/111/241/AVIC-F950DAB/page.html

Support isn't mentioned for this, but I was never likely to get it, too pricey & with features I don't really want:

http://www.pioneer.com.au/au/products/25/111/241/AVIC-F50BT/page.html
[Android General] Area51©:
The last 2 are supported as well. You can see this when you go to the Features tab. Then expand AppRadio Mode Compatibility and check that they mention Android and AppRadio mode.

I noticed there's no "bare" AppRadio available in Australia.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Why would you like to pay so much more for a HU that have built in GPS.

All (most) of car stereo built in GPS units are no match / comparison to Google Navigator or mobile Nav in general.

i have the x940BT and upgraded to the AR3 just due to that cause. As soon as i found out about ARU it made my decision much easier. Here in the US u can get the AR3 for 350$, i sold my x940BT for 400$ :) upgraded for free and made some money :) if u plan on using ARU, save ur self alot of money. Get the AR3.... it got everything the models u pasted here have minus the GPS software, but why would u need that if u got ur phone....
[Android General] Area51©:
AR3 is not listed on the Pioneer site in Australia.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
OOOHHHHH

well, thats explains it...

fudge on pioneer !!

i wonder why its not there....
[Android General] jalyst:
exactly, which is why it wasn't on my short-list.

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Yup.
[Android General] papa3r:
AR3 is not available in australia boss :D
[Android General] bodieism:
Don't some of the other Pioneer HUs have the ability to send video to other screens in the car... that might explain why some people prefer the other models. I don't have any rear seats so I'm good with the AR3 :laugh:
[Android General] chawski:
I thought I remembered disabling knox being an option with supersu...I could definitely be wrong.

If anyone knows of a kernel that works with the att s3 that will work with ARU, im all ears!

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I was able to disable knox in terminal emulator, but still having the same problem: screen mirrors perfectly, no touch input from the headunit. I have no touch input both when mirroring as well as the "stock appradio app" looking screen from aru
[Android General] poopsmith777:
If you check my sig, you can see the setup I briefly tested as fully functional and working. The fact that you took the OTA means you can't downgrade bootloaders IIRC, but it might be worth a shot to see if SlimKat works for you. The fact that I'm on a pre-Knox bootloader may be part of the reason my setup worked
[Android General] stargate125645:
Do you have "others" selected in the AppRadio menu?
[Android General] chawski:
yes, just went back and checked it.

Is it correct that touch inputs are over bluetooth or is it all through the mhl? Its a samsung mhl and it works for screen mirroring so Im wanting to believe its not that. Bluetooth audio streaming and phone calls work properly, so again, i think i can check both those off my list.

I may try going to a version or 2 older of ARU just to see if for some strange reason that does it
[Android General] donroja:
Finally

@ Area 51 and Stargate

Thanks for your help today guys, I've finally cracked the code for my issues... It's a different connection process than the note 2, but it works 99% of the time now. Start the car, press ok on the AR, plug in lg g3 (I have tasker start aru upon connection of hdmi and to close it when detached), next push the blue android, press ok or yes all the way til you get your mirrored screen without touch. It should beep the first time you touch the screen and display a hand with a red X. Then press home. I get the connection upon pressing home or the android turns green, either way I'm good to go... The key player here is setting your AR to NOT automatically connect i believe. I hope this can help some peeps... Thanks again guys!
[Android General] f1n4rf1n:
For Viper it is the phone speaker. Which for me isn't nice since I have optimized settings for that little speaker which i cannot disable automatically in the car as there is no tasker integration for Viper :-/
[Android General] stargate125645:
I still think Reloaded will alleviate your problems, but I couldn't even get past calibration with ARU, so who knows. I'm glad you got it to work. FYI, if it beeps on your first touch, just wait on the mirrored screen and you will get full connection. No need to return to home screen. Also, even if you don't have touch control, sound will still be transmitted over HDMI when mirrored so you can have Tasker start playing music while you wait for touch.

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Touch is through BT. If you are using the stock kernel, it may still have SELinux security issues that prevent touch control remotely.
[Android General] AliMusa:
For some odd reason, when playing my music through poweramp, at least that's the only app I've tried, my BT just randomly stops working and won't connect back until I turn BT off and then on again. I don't know if it's Poweramp, my kernel or what, but I just uninstalled my kernel and went back to stock to see if the problem continues. Has anyone else had this issue?

Another issue I have is that when driving, my phone just loses connection with ARU and gets all snowy or the screen just starts breaking up. I'm assuming it's a loose connection somewhere but I plugged in my HDMI cable very firmly into the back of the headunit, so it can't be that. I think it's the SlimPort being weighed down by the ferrite core of the HDMI cable. The slimport connector being so loose on my phone doesn't help either. I have another on the way, which should hopefully arrive shorly. I'm also going to replace the HDMI cable with a shorter cable to see if maybe the cable is just faulty, even though I'm pretty sure that's not it. Does anyone else have an issue with the slimport being loose when connected to a nexus 5?
[Android General] tech by trade:
Your MHL/SlimPort adapter is toast.
[Android General] AliMusa:
How come?
[Android General] tech by trade:
The static is actually an intermittent connection. They fail often. I am on my second since january, and shortly my third monoprice one. I may order a pioneer one later but at 8 bucks a shot I will replace the odd cheap one.
[Android General] AliMusa:
Well it happens whenever the micro USB port jiggles, which is very often because of how loose the connection to my phone is. So that's why I think it's because of that. It's a brand new slimport so I don't get why the slimport could be faulty already.
[Android General] desantim:
I finally just got my headunit installed again (4000NEX) and my LG G3, I'd like to give the ARU beta a try now, with some fiddling the original ARU works fine, and I'll have this setup for a while, so might as well take the plunge.

How do I go about participating at this point?

Thank you and thank you for all your hard work.

Mario
[Android General] chawski:
Ive done some more troubleshooting and seem to get more stumped the more I find out.

Installed the stock appradio app again just to make sure all was well, which it was. kinda confirms my mhl is fine

When I go back to ARU, I can calibrate my screen on first boot, and thats where my touch input ends. Seems odd that the app will let me get that far, but stops there. Even more odd that it was originally working, and now with no new changes, will not.

I attempted to factory reset the headunit, however that option is greyed out so no luck there. My computer doesnt recognize my phone for whatever reason but id rather backup pics and whatnot before I do a factory reset

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To add, I now have SELinux is permissive mode, and still no changes.

I really cant think of anything other than knox (which is now disabled) and SELinux that could be holding it from registering touch inputs...
[Android General] tech by trade:
If you turn off the unit factory reset will be available. You cant have any of the inputs, including radio enabled or it greys out.
[Android General] chawski:
Sweet, I'll give that a try!
[Android General] SvenGWK:
I know, the post i reply to is really old, but i had exactly the same issue while connecting my LG G2 (Stock rom, rooted) with Appradio 3.

These steps solved it for me, i guess it will work on every android phone:

1. Synchronize contacts with Google.

2. go to settings -> apps and look for contacts / contacts memory or similar

3. clear cache and data of these applications, your contact list should be empty afterwards

4. go to settings - > accounts & sync (or similar) and choose Google

5. tap on your account, then on "Contacts" for synchronizing your contact list with the previously stored list on the Google-server

6. check your contact list, everything should be back again

After these steps my phone connects to the headunit within 5 seconds, before it took around 2-3 minutes, so it´s much better now. ;)
[Android General] blackwell387:
I have ? I have an LG G3 i just came from the note 3 my hdmi conntector does not work with the. Lg g3 what are you using for an. Hdmi connector and how many pin adaptor should it be????
[Android General] texbuck:
LG uses slimport, not mhl. The analogix sp1003 has been very reliable for many on this forum.
[Android General] desantim:
This
[Android General] Area51©:
It's not odd if you know how it works. In ARU calibration still uses the "Pioneer way" for touch input so that will work. Right after calibration is done a switch is made to inject touch on system level. That you can do calibration confirms that the BT connection is fine. So the only issue than you can have is no proper root access or SELinux and Knox security issues.