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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
Never had a PDA2k. Its roughly the same height and width as the jam but feels alot bulky, however it seems to fit in my jacket pocket just fine.

The device is nice and fast, although writing to the persistant storage is a little slow.

The build quality seems alot better then the jam, no rattles :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
Also voice dialling over bluetooth works just fine, the audio now gets routed through the BT headset and BT mic.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jaythemagician:
It's nowhere near the size of the pda2k! I received mine today as well, as you said alot chunkier than the jam but it's still small. Very tidy looking, just hope the sliding keyboard holds out!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kd_bimmer1:
the audio now gets routed through the BT headset and BT mic

Psneddon,

Does music also work over bluetooth headset? I've always wanted this to work on the Jam, but didn't.

Ken
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rookery:
HI psneddon,

are there any PDF user menu come with your NEW K-Jam ??? would you upload it for us, Thanks

If file size is less than 25Mb try

http://www.mytempdir.com/

Thanks a lot
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
Found the manual here :-

http://www.clubimate.com.nyud.net:8090/support/KJAM/MANUALS/MNL/050905_K-JAM_manual_english.pdf

The device actually comes with a nice printed manual.

The answer to the music over bluetooth is sort of yes and no. If I have the device paired etc and play media player the music comes from the speakers, however if I press the headset and it lauches the voicedial app the music comes out the headset. It switches back once the voicedial application stops though :(

Paul
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] CoolGadget:
I notice, it swith automatic to landscape mode, if you slide the keyboard open.

But if you want to go in landscape without opening the keyboard, there isn't an icon on the right where you can tap on for switchin screen. If you want to switch screen without opening keyboard, you need to go thru the menus to change it.

Anybody know how to bypass this?

thnx
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
I've found my device to be a little unstable and a little buggy. Sometimes it just resets itself. Although the weird thing is sometimes when it soft resets its self it comes back and the radio gsm part of the phone survives the reset (its on and got a signal before I've even put in my device password)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kd_bimmer1:
psneddon,

The music over bluetooth sounds like it has improved over the Jam, I'm sure someone will come up with a fix for that, however I have heard that the A2DP profile update is coming out for the K-Jam, which would allow us to use stereo bluetooth headsets!!!

What is your overall opinion of the K-Jam? Coming from the Jam, with 128meg upgrade, what do you think about the memory? I heard something about when programs are loaded in persistent memory, the response is very slow. Have you seen this?

What is the overall response of the unit?

What is the battery life like compared to the Jam?

Thanks,

Ken
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J273:
Yea ive got a 128mb Jam and would like to know the above Q

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] luv2chill:
Does the K-Jam come with a voice dial app like the Universal? If so, what program is it?

I have the Apache (basically the CDMA version of the Wizard) but it doesn't come with voice dialing software and even after installing MS Voice Command it cannot be activated via BT headset.

However, when pressing the button on the headset, the audio does come through the headset speaker indefinitely.

Dan
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
Also putting the stylus under the device towards the back is a pain. I would have been much better if it had been left in the same location as the jam

A few other things...

You can now turn the device completely off just like the smartphone (hold down the power button for 4 secs)

You can cancel the device customisation when you hard reset the device by simply pressing cancel on the ext rom setup screen. However most of the software included is built right into the rom and the cab files simply contain shortcuts and reg entries
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kd_bimmer1:
Thanks psneddon for the update,

That was a very good update you just gave. I want to know what programs you have installed and how much memory is left on the device?

How much is in program, storage and flash rom?

Do you install your programs in flash rom or what?

It sounds like this device is a little larger than the Jam, do you think this was a good upgrade considering all of the new features available on the device?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Kensai:
psneddon, bottom line: will you prefer it from your JAM (if JAM had WM5)?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] psneddon:
The device has about 50mb storage space and it seems to have 50meg fo user ram (according to the device info). With just activesync running I have 30mb of memory free and 29mb in use. But going by the way Wm5 manages memory I wouldnt say that data is very meaningfull.

I install some stuff like today plugins in the storage memory but most of the stuff on miniSD card since its faster.

Since the storage/memory is now seperated I dont really think we have to worry anymore about what we install to main storage 50MB is enought in my view.

One good thing is that when you install software via activesync or by cab file the install process is much better - the device now asks where you want to install the software - activesync doesnt prompt you for any information.

Overall I really think that for being one of the first WM5 devices out it is stable enough - it should be rock solid after a few updates.

My only REAL gripe about WM5 is that I was really looking forward to the new "one handed operation" of the device - which is mostly very good - just like the smartphone. except that for programs that use the "ok" button in the top corner you still seem to need to tap the screen. Saying that there is an "ok" button on the keyboard
[G2 Accessories] DeaconBoogie:
Ships on 10/4 apparently... It looks like it's some kind of glass, maybe not the normal hard tempered glass type, but they claim 8H hardness.

http://www.iloome.com/LG-G2-Screen-Protector-Flexible/dp/B00F4IIGMM
[G2 Accessories] MoNsTeReNeRgY22:
Looks interesting. If you order one, let us know how it is.
[G2 Accessories] djkinetic:
YES finally!!
[G2 Accessories] pmoradi2002:
Careful, looks like this protector goes all the way to the edge of the screen. The edges of the G2 are curved, which means a screen protector will not attach properly :rolleyes:
[G2 Accessories] DeaconBoogie:
Of course you realize that is not a real product photo, right? :)

I am certain the actual shipping product fits properly.
[G2 Accessories] gregish:
The one you linked is flexible, so I'm not sure it's real glass. The site also links a more expensive tempered glass option which is thicker which I may pick up.

Only thing that could make it better is if it included the black top and bottom sections to cover the Verizon and lg logos.
[G2 Accessories] drathian1:
This is the tempered glass one:

http://www.iloome.com/LG-G2-Screen-Protector-Tempered/dp/B00F4IJ93W
[G2 Accessories] o0adam0o:
I've never used a tempered glass screen protector.

How does it feel/look compared to regular screen protectors?

What benefits does tempered have over regular screen protectors?
[G2 Accessories] canecbr600:
Its clearer for one, the feel is just like using the phone without a protector at all.
[G2 Accessories] deeznuts:
I'm the WORST at putting these dang screen protectors on, no steady hands. Knowing my luck i'll finally get it on and aligned right with no bubbles then to only notice i have fingerprint marks underneath, lol!!!
[G2 Accessories] freebee269:
when i got my gs4 it was the first time i ever decided to use a tempered glass screen protector. i bought a mime glass screen protector. now i cant go back to the screen protectors that are flimsy like zaggs. the glass screen protector feels just like you are touching the screen itself and the sensitivity as far as the phone goes, it thinks you are just touching its own glass so you lose none. only way you can tell you got 1 on will be at the top where the cut out for the ear piece will be. they are more expensive but if you want the best i'd recommend getting a glass screen protector. i'm hoping mime picks up the g2. they have the best customer support.
[G2 Accessories] DeaconBoogie:
Ah, that's new from the other day... Not sure I like the rounded corners on it, they don't follow the contour of the actual screen. Sort of ghetto...
[G2 Accessories] Gasaraki-:
You do know glass can bend without breaking right? Fiber cables are glass.
[G2 Accessories] tri0xinn:
just watched a few reviews on iloome glass screen protectors and they were all positive.. nothing negative.. I just installed the crystal hd by spigen which is pretty darn close to perfect.. these are undetectable other than the edges and not 100 percent the feel of glass.. I'd say 85 percent. I'll definitely purchase the glass one next time mostly for teh glass feel.. they are only around 10-15 dollars more.
[G2 Accessories] DeaconBoogie:
Just FYI, I looked around some more and I saw a video of the "flex" model and it does "crack" on impact like a full glass one during the impact test. Obviously none of these splinter into shards to cut you, but the flexible one is definitely made of a material that is brittle enough to crack in the familiar spider web pattern of traditional tempered glass.

You can see this here at 7:25:

[YOUTUBE]rEYK0620vbg[/YOUTUBE]
[G2 Accessories] eth3rton:
Just ordered one for my G2.

I got one similar on my Canon 5D MKIII DSLR and absolutely LOVE it!
[G2 Accessories] gregish:
Interesting this makes my choice harder
[G2 Accessories] jordant2:
I don't want to wait the two weeks for this to release but I really want one. Those glass protectors give you great protection. You can use almost any flimsy case with it and feel secure.
[G2 Accessories] xyltha:
black trim version

Just ordered one with the black trim which should cover the LG logo quite nicely for a very clean look.
[G2 Accessories] chrisexv6:
URL? I cant find it on iloome's site
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
No, eBay says I should get it any time between next week and next month. The inky tracking number I have is for its trip inside of Korea and it left last week. I will post my findings as soon as I get it put in place.
[G2 Accessories] shook187:
Stop me if I'm wrong but isn't Zaggs screen protectors at the malls and Best Buy $24.99?
[G2 Accessories] 20degrees:
Yup.

LG G2
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
My Korean protector came. I like it so far. No bubbles or anything but I only put a few hours ago. Looks like it's cut pretty close to the rounded edge but does leave a little off of it. Pics included.
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
looking great, but is there any touch problem??

is it just me but the screen looks narrower than it was?
[G2 Accessories] rebelx:
I'd appreciate if you could check compatibility with cases. I know you might not have this particular Spigen case available, but any rough idea about how much the glass runs up to the edge would be nice to avoid lifting issues. Thanks!
[G2 Accessories] crashN2u:
Never pay that much for them. Cost is about $6-7 depending on model.
[G2 Accessories] 20degrees:
Link

LG G2
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
There is some touch issues close to the bottom but I think that's my fault. I messed up the first time. Cleaned the crap out of it, put the screen on and bam 2 massive dust particles. So I took it off, then got dust on the protectors inside. So I tried to clean that, and got lint on the adhesive lol. Was not a good start. So I'm pretty sure even though I got all the visible particles out there are some on the adhesive maybe making it not lay as flat as it should.
[G2 Accessories] crashN2u:
There is no link. I'm telling you what Best Buy pays for them. I'm just saying that$25 is too high of a markup to pay. That's about a 66% markup. Ridiculous.
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
That's everything lol the monster hdmi cables cost best buy 5 to 8 bucks. There like 30 to 40 bucks? 50% is the average markup on most items like that. Watch sharktank lol
[G2 Accessories] crashN2u:
At 30 and 40, the costs would be 13.50 and 18 respectively. The margins you're posting up is more in line with their rocketfish cables, only a little too high. Bring them down about 1.50-3. The earlier percentage was too low for the zaggs. The actual markup is around 72% depending on model. That's like me buying a loaf of bread for 2.50 and selling it to you for 10. Sounds a little more outrageous now, doesn't it. But, you're right, that's the way it is and until people start speaking with their pocketbooks, that's the way it'll stay.

I have nothing against capitalism or a business making money, but there's a difference between making money and raking people over hot coals. For the glass protectors to be the same or lower in price, it shows better value because the cost to make is higher and there's a smaller margin.

If people want to buy zaggs at retail, that's their perogative, I'm just saying to shop smart. Use coupons, wait for sales. God knows they have enough of them.
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
Not to hijack the thread but it's funny you say a loaf of bread as an example...because that's exactly what they do lol

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/02/18/biggest-grocery-store-markups/
[G2 Accessories] crashN2u:
lol. and companies like hostess still went bankrupt. smh.
[G2 Accessories] narutimetto:
Has anyone try this? NEW LG G2 Tempered Glass Screen Protector 9H Hardness Premium GlassView [Black]

sorry cannot post link yet. that one is from ebay, the seller is from Korea.

Just type "Lg G2 tempered glass" on ebay search, it should be first on the list
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
#184
[G2 Accessories] livebyknight:
How is this protector holding up? I'm thinking about getting it especially since it can version the LG logo and makes it look like a nexus

LG G2
[G2 Accessories] Sushiglobster:
Not sure if this company has been posted yet, so I thought I'd contribute.

I received a PM in my inbox from user "thenoobhasgb." This person came across a G2 tempered glass protector (that will cover the Verizon logo and LG logo).

Here is the link: http://www.xgearlive.com/products/android/lg/sentinel

Estimated shipping date is November 18th. Which is still kind of out there. It may be worth considering though if you're in the market for such a product, like me.

Anyone hear of XGearLive products?
[G2 Accessories] dafutr:
i got the korean protector and i gotta say...it's a beauty and strong and protects the nasty vzw graffiti but, unfortunately this has touch issues and i'm almost ready to take it off. I can't type without it not registering letters here and there. I also can't play any quick reaction games.
[G2 Accessories] crashN2u:
It was posted up by an employee a few pages back. I'm waiting until he posts about the fit before purchasing one.
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
When did you guys order yours, I am still waiting on mine and it said it had left Korea on the 12th. Just curious how long it took you guys to get yours. I am sure it will be like others that the touch input will be useless but I would still like to try it. Guess I will be waiting for the Xgear like everyone else.
[G2 Accessories] in_dmand:
What about the tempered glass protector from Glass-M? They are showing in Stock... Anyone tried it?
[G2 Accessories] hlb96:
Does the glass scratch easy? I had a galaxy s3 for a week and noticed very fine scratches. I then got my Atrix 2 and have had it for 2 years with no screen protector. No scratches at all. I'm about to pull the trigger on the at&t g2 from Amazon for $99, and don't want to get a protector if I don't need one.
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
there is 2 version tho

http://hk.f1.page.auctions.yahoo.com/hk/auction/b27217717?

new version is one posted on top with red chinese writing on the picture, which cover more of the screen

older version is narrower

not sure the glass-m site which one it is selling
[G2 Accessories] dafutr:
My brother was actually in korea and just brought it back with him. Took him a few days to get it over there. So I can't comment on how long it would take for you to get it.

Also just an FYI, I finally took it off and the reason why the touch issues was occurring was because there's space between the glass and the phone. Only the sides top and bottom was sticky. just make sure that it's flat on the surface of your phone screen and you should be fine.
[G2 Accessories] deadsea:
If that's the actual glass-m protector, it's not very good is it?

It doesn't even cover the whole display. One of the pictures shows the display showing past the edge of the protector.. Kinda like my wife's current screen protector. But glass.
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
I emailed them and said there is a touch issue. The response was. ..

We will send you a new one..

I don't know about you, but to me , them just sending it out without giving me the 3rd degree is pretty cool. I think this time when I put a screen protector on I'm going to try to slightly bend it in the center to ensure it's flat on the screen. We shall see. Either way pretty great customer support.
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
That is great to hear! Mine should show up any day based on the eBay estimate. Thanks for sharing your experience.
[G2 Accessories] EniGmA1987:
Also install it in your bathroom. Close the door and turn on the shower to hottest. Let the room steam up a bit, so this way because of the damp air there will not be any dust floating around that will get underneath the glass. Clean the phone really well and then take the glass protector out and install it.
[G2 Accessories] justbenice:
Hi, thank you for the "review" , i like to have one ! How do you feel about that glass protector ? Is it good ? Please send me a link to buy.
[G2 Accessories] aphexjuggalo:
Anybody have any experience with glass protectors on a previously scratched screen?
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
You might want to hold off for now, the two people have received theirs said there are a ton of touch issues and the seller has actually stopped selling them. I am still waiting for mine to show up and I will take the advice of the other two posters and see if I cannot get better contact. The Korean seller said they are working on a fix and one of the posters is getting a new one to replace the one with touch issues. Your other option is to wait a couple weeks for the XGear Sentinel.
[G2 Accessories] justbenice:
Thank you, i checked the website, it look like will avaible in NOVEMBER 18th. Are there anyone have experience with this XGear sentinel ?
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
Not so far, however one of the employees has posted a few times in the thread and shed some light on possible issues with other protectors due to receiving sample glass that others have used. So I would expect that they will make sure they don't get bit by the same issue iLoome and others have.
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
Today I tried something and man what a difference. I slowly pulled up one corner at each corner of the glass. Peeled it almost to the center of the screen, then pressed the center and pushed out to the corner. Doing this made the glass sit super tight to the screen and all the touch issues are gone! I'm so happy this worked lol because I love the look and feel of this screen protector. Feels like I have a nexus

---------- Post added at 08:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 PM ----------

Edit.. I quoted the wrong post lol but I'm referring to the Korean glass protector.
[G2 Accessories] Vysin:
well it seems that these glass screen protectors are going to take a while to be able to get them.

I just bought the Obliq pure oleophobic in the meanwhile until these things are ready to buy and are reviewed
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
wow thats glad to hear. i guess your first install was just pressing the adhesive area? btw any dust or else manage to get in between the screen?
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
The first time i got massive dust particles under the screen.. then the second time it was less.. but still there.. then again! lol 4th times a charm? i ended up lightly misting down my bathroom with a water bottle and doing it in there. helped a lot with the dust. 1 little particle is like a highlighter on the screen. impossible to not notice. They are still sending me a replacement, even though it seems if you really put some effort you can make the touch issue go away. but im sure with as many times as ive removed it the adhesive is much weaker by now. so once i get the new one, knowing what i know i should be able to get it on clean and with out issues in one shot. i hope because not having that vz logo just like makes my day every time i look at the phone. knowing its well protected is a added bonus lol
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
does the adhesive leave any mark on the screen? by the sound of it when installing, is to line up first then press in the center/or screen area to ensure the gap is closed and then put pressure on the adhesive area.

Did you purchase yours from e-sparkler ebay seller? i might give it a try since the seller will send a replacement without much questioning
[G2 Accessories] zathus:
yeah thats who i bought it from.
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
I just got mine, I will use your tips to see if I'll be able to get a better fit. Thanks again for sharing.
[G2 Accessories] djkinetic:
Update when u get the chance.
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
Waiting for your result
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
As soon as I put it on I'll post and include pics.
[G2 Accessories] tiguy99:
If the new ones are better I just may order this afterall
[G2 Accessories] gochiefs:
Mimeusa took off the coming soon on theirs but it says it's out of stock. Sent an email but nothing back yet.
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
Packaging is pretty nice. I don't know if I'll have time to put it on tonight though.
[G2 Accessories] antawnm26:
Awesome waiting on pics and review....even a video?lol
[G2 Accessories] rebelx:
I wonder why it's so cheap compared to some of the other brands that are closer to $30?
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
I think I could do a video, it will be a nice way to document right after and then a few days/weeks later.
[G2 Accessories] mgolder:
Really interested in seeing if this Glassview one is good once on.

Dropped my nexus 4 and broke the glass the other day, so bought a G2 to replace it. Never broke a phone before that, so now I am officially paranoid about it ha ha. Something like this would be brilliant if it all works well.

And if it can fit with rear covering cases then even better. Looking forward to your pics/video and opinions of it once on :good:
[G2 Accessories] justbenice:
Please let me know if you can get the glassview fit in our G2 . Can't wait to have it !
[G2 Accessories] MKashiff:
Tried Similar S. Korein Product

I tried the same product with similar specification. I faced the following couple of issues after which I removed it..

There were bubbles all around edges.

Double tap to lock and unlock were having hard time to work but it was working.
[G2 Accessories] Reginald476:
Based on other reviews it should be great, the only issue may be the rounded corners but based on [MENTION=1982944]zathus[/MENTION] third and forth tries, I might be able to get it on without touch issues. I will be heading home in about 30 mins and will try putting it on in the bathroom after running the shower.
[G2 Accessories] whitepandaaa:
I can't wait
[G2 Accessories] mgolder:
I'm hoping it all goes on nicely. And really hope it fits well with cases, specifically the spigen slim armour, seems the best looking slim protective case so far. If that can work with the protector, that would be great. Looks like I'm sitting and refreshing this page tonight!