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[Android General] lpasq:
For what it is worth... I had a terrible time when first trying to BT sync my N5 and AppRadio 3 when I first attempted day 1. Somewhere on AppRadioForum saw a post recommending to clear both phone and HU BT profiles... shutdown HU... turn phone BT off... made sure neither ARL or ARU where active... turned on HU... selected HU main screen BT A2DP source... turned on device BT and Pandora app on phone... paired/synced this way... shut off everything and then went through the routine for ARU setup and never had an issue again...... ...... was all that necessary? I don't know... cause and effect or coincidence? I can't say...
[Android General] sjorge3442:
So I finally got my Appradio 2 in my dash board last night (had it since christmas) and I got ARUnChained up and running, However, my GPS from my HTC One does not work. I really do not want to run the GPS antenna cord if I dont have to (I would rather not have the cords running everywhere). Is this the point of the Injector App? From looking at that it look like the injector allows you to use the HU GPS instead of the Phone. I want to use the Phone, not the HU.
[Android General] Area51©:
What navigation app do you want to use?

If you use one of the Pioneer approved apps it will use the HU GPS and in your case that won't work as your GPS antenna is not connected.

With other apps it should work, there's a chance however that the HDMI signal disturbs GPS reception.
[Android General] Zeggi:
Hi Guys!

I have searched this thread and the one about screen standby, if i understood everything correct S3 i9300 with Android 4.3 wont work with screen standby?

I managed to get it to work with youtube clips but im only getting audio.

I also managed to get the screen to standby but it cuts off everything both display and audio.

Sorry if this question has been posted before..
[Android General] sjorge3442:
I exclusively use Waze. My area has tons of users and it really helps me with my commutes.

What exactly does the GPS Injector do then if it doesnt mirror the phone GPS?
[Android General] ixian:
You have it backwards. The GPS injector allows apps that use GPS but weren't designed with the AppRadio in mind to use the HU GPS.

Apps like Waze (the other is Navfree, and I believe the same is true with Google Maps) are AppRadio compatible, meaning if they detect an AppRadio they will use the HU GPS automatically. Other Nav apps, or apps that use Nav elements, won't and thus normally will use the phone GPS.

The point of this is - you *want* to use the HU GPS. Not only will it save battery but it's far more accurate, will get a lock quicker, and updates more often. You are having problems because you are using Waze, which detects it's hooked up to an AppRadio, so looks for GPS from it, and you haven't hooked it up.

It used to be the case with the Pioneer AVIC's that you could simply stick the GPS antenna on top of the HU itself, inside the dash - if there's only plastic in your dash above it it'll still get a signal just fine. You can try that - it'll keep all the wires out of the way.

Or take the time to hide the cable. I have mine top center dash, wire running under it, can't be seen, looks like it came with the car. Depending on the vehicle it's not hard to do.

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Well, it's worth a try, thanks, I will do this today and report back. I believe I did this once before but without the Pandora app running (or even installed)
[Android General] sjorge3442:
I'll try sticking the unit just in the dash and see if it works, but with the MHL adapter behind the radio, its already hard enough to squeeze the radio in place. My HTC One locks on to gps INSTANTLY each time I ask it connect. I've never had one issue in the 7 months I've had the phone. Also I drive an A4 and they arent the easiest cars to rip apart the interior of to run wires. They really dont have space to jam extra components where they already dont belong.

So to go back to my original question, is there anyway to override the way Waze chooses which GPS to use?
[Android General] Area51©:
Nope. Waze has a built in Pioneer AppRadio SDK and when it detects that the AppRadio app is installed it will use that to get GPS data. Only thing that would be possible is to hack Waze and when a new version comes out you have to do that again.
[Android General] Area51©:
Google maps doesn't support AppRadio, to use that you need the GPS Injector.

My GPS antenna is under the dash too (only plastic above it) and it works fine.
[Android General] sjorge3442:
Well since I still need to hookup my ground loop isolators (getting the annoying alternator whine through the speakers) I will try to fit the GPS behind the dash. I can see how my A4 could have any metal in the dash about the radio.
[Android General] Vissionary:
I first want to say that I LOVE this app. It's the main reason I picked up an AR2. Thank you Area51.

Secondly, I have everything working quite well, steering wheels controls are still giving me problems while in appradio mode but it could be the axxess aswc-1. My main issue is Screen Standby, it goes active once HDMI is plugged but it doesn't turn off the screen. Anyone else have this issue?
[Android General] ixian:
Lots of people do with newer devices - what is your phone/version?

With my N5 4.4.2 it's never worked right, the screen will turn off but it turns back on. Looks like development on that app stopped about 6 months ago so who knows if it'll be fixed.

I briefly tried another app called Screen Settings which has a blanking feature but it didn't work either.

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Hope you do because if you don't have the GPS antenna hooked up you are gonna be flat out of luck trying to use Waze with the AR :)

Again, you really want to use it. To the point of, why have an AppRadio at all (with Nav use) if you don't? It's far better than the phone GPS. Not trying to sound snarky, it's just you're the first person I've heard of who wants the exact opposite - Area51 made ARInjector so people could *use* the built in GPS, that's how high the demand was.
[Android General] er0k:
Can you share your tasker settings? Thanks.
[Android General] Vissionary:
N5 4.4.2 Cataclysm+Franco r32.

That's exactly what would happen to mine. Bummer.

I just ordered a high powered charger so I can keep my battery in the positive.

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Can you please share your tasker profiles?! :good:
[Android General] Sym_Link:
Sorry, didn't see your PM until just now. Here you go. Just one profile with a connect and disconnect task.
[Android General] Sym_Link:
As for steering wheel controls with the axxess, it will work fine, most of the time, if the appradio is started in "Radio" mode first and then switch to Android. I have gotten into the habit of putting it in Radio mode before I shut the car off. I found that out the hard way after checking all of my wiring.
[Android General] Vissionary:
Thank you kindly, sir :good:

Ah ok. I will try that. Thanks again.
[Android General] ixian:
I use the PAC-SWI with mine and it just works no matter what order.

However, in Android (Google Play Music, for example) scrubbing doesn't work, only track next/previous (and volume of course). Is that the case with yours? Scrubbing works with the default Car Media player.
[Android General] Sym_Link:
To be perfectly honest, I am not sure what scrubbing is, except when I am trying to clean something. Lol. What is scrubbing? My steering wheel only has volume, track and mode.
[Android General] ixian:
Fast-forward/rewind.

Scrubbing these days means when you touch the progress bar for your player and "scrub" it backwards or forwards depending on where you want to go in the song/movie.
[Android General] shaxs:
So this may be the wrong thread but a lot of AppRadio owners here. When I click and hold the home button to launch the voice control on the phone I just get an error on the radio. Anyone else get this?
[Android General] Sym_Link:
Ah, I got ya. I just checked it it no I can't scrub, at least in Play Music. I didn't try anything else.
[Android General] <:GeeK:>:
Actually I do not think you understand, because I am mirroring wireless, bluetooth should not be enabled and I do not think 'AppRadio Unchained' would have any effect on the connection. The phone is not going through an MHL adapter anymore and it is not using mirror link, it's using wireless display (miracast) and going through a WiDi receiver. This makes things a lot different as far as I can tell.

Here is the thing, I think we can all agree that mirroring with no wireless kicks a lot more ass than being forced to use a wire. The current setup I'm running accomplishes everything that the wired connection using 'AppRadio Unchained' does without using a wired connection, except for touch control through he head unit, which we all want.

I'm just not exactly sure how the head unit decides to allow/disallow touch and that's why I'm reaching out to the community to get a solution to the problem.

I can see how this might be considered thread hijacking since my posts are not specifically for 'AppRadio Unchained', so I made a new thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2463257
[Android General] papa3r:
i have allshare cast dongle....two thing i like if i use that...

1.Stronger signal on gps (X8550bt)

2.No heat problem

but overall i don't like with the sound quality and video lag

Now I use my genuine mhl.
[Android General] rs2k:
How much video lag was there?
[Android General] papa3r:
on my x8550bt

video about a half-second lag

I can see the display on my Samsung GS3 moving when I touch the HU screen, and than on radio display moving half-second later...

but fortunately..the touch event it self work flawlessly (except lower side touch issue)
[Android General] nahum.rozen:
Lag

I also saw the lag in my 8550BT - connected with MHL wire

The cause for the lag in my case is after receiving a call (or making a call) - the same problem as in ARLiberator.

During the call itself, there is no lag problem. only after hanging the call the lag appears.

To solve the lag problem I just enter the BT connection and "regain" connection by:

Settings > Bluetooth > avh-x8550bt > (settings) > media audio. Then the lag is solved.

I noticed that I can connect to the APRADIO2 while the phone is still connected to my BT earpiece, the touch is working too.

In this case, the lag do not appear at all (even not after calls).

I think that the lag should be related to the fact that during a call, the BT channel is mainly directed to call audio channel. and when the BT is returning to its "normal" usage (non call state) something brakes. I suspect that this is due to the touch feedback method used...

Nahum
[Android General] papa3r:
No...I dont have any lag issue when using MHL wired....its happen only when using wireless mirroring connection, getting worse when connecting on my wireless LAN:crying:
[Android General] nahum.rozen:
Did you tried calling and then checking if lag exists?
[Android General] papa3r:
You can see on my video I make...start calling in 4:03

[YOUTUBE]We_i4q8y3yc#t=352][/YOUTUBE]

the video show me using ArUnchained0.10.....although I also use the ARL3.01 had no lag issues.
[Android General] jdbaldi:
Droid Bionic

I'm a little confused after reading some posts and watching that last video.

On my phone ARU is always running in the background, so when I plug it in it automatically connects to my AR2.

The android icon turns green but if I wait another second I get a "OK" screen, when I press OK it

takes me right to my Bionic's home screen. I never have to interact with the Appradio app at all.

Also I'm not understanding why I would want to shut down ARU, I don't think there is any battery drain if

it's just running in the background.
[Android General] stargate125645:
You realize that touch data, button presses, etc., are sent via Bluetooth, right? It has to be enabled and connected. The video and audio connection is irrelevant as long as the head unit recognizes a phone is connected, but BT is indeed required.
[Android General] bodieism:
I had my Note 2 working with an Allshare dongle with my AppRadio 2, but the automated connection I setup via Tasker and some other apps just was't reliable enough for my taste. I would think it would work with the AppRadio 3 as well... and now that Allshare seems to be more stable it might be a viable solution.

I'm thinking wireless mirroring would take more power. Is Slimport limited to the around 500 ma that MHL is? If so, you would at least be able to charge at a higher rate without the need of a fast charge kernel while using screen mirroring.

Edit: My AR3 is coming tomorrow, so after I get it installed I can test it out and report back.
[Android General] Area51©:
Working hardware buttons

The hardware buttons are working now and I found a way to get back to the native head unit screen.

The home, menu and back button now work as advertised.

To go back to the native interface you have to open the AppRadio app manually and then press the home button.

It's a bit fiddly but at least it's possible to go back and it's the easiest way to implement for now.

It's quite late already so I will make a new release tomorrow.

Sorry to keep you waiting.
[Android General] kentdb:
My Nexus 4 does the same thing. Mine is rooted with the stock ROM so I don,t think its specific to the ROM. My phone does not freeze every time but it has done it quite a few times. I researched it some and the best answer I could find was that it was caused by rapid power drain when using the screen and bluetooth streaming at the same time. I have tried a AC charger in the car powered by an inverter and while it helped with the power drain it didn't solve the problem. This problem was occurring before I installed the current version of ARU so I dont think ARU has anything to do with it. Just my experience. I hope it helps.
[Android General] FingerBlastJ:
Just got the app radio installed in the car with video bypass and connecting the unit to the phone with this wire:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ec6cc4e02

Its the hdmi wire that is split with a micro usb for the phone and a standard usb for the power to charge the phone.

I have both arliberator and aru.

Cant get arliberator to connect but aru does connect.

However, im getting static and snow on the screen cutting in and out. When this happens it also cuts out the audio along with it.

Im pretty sure its the wire, probably made in china stuff. But i also installed a backup camera that also has snow in it but not as bad as the hdmi cable.

Im assuming that its the wire, but im not sure. Can anyone link me to something of high quality that is the same wire as in the link i provided?

Your help is much appreciated.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Why not the pioneer OEM

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-Andro...TF8&qid=1380590460&sr=8-5&keywords=appradio+3
[Android General] FingerBlastJ:
Im looking for something with less wires and connections.

If this is the only thing that will work i probably will end up buying it, but i like just once cable going to 2 sources, that isnt made in china.
[Android General] bodieism:
I have that cable and mine actually works pretty good. Once in a blue moon it will snow, but usually only for less than a second. I think it's hit or miss with anything other than the genuine Samsung MHL cable ordered directly from Samsung.

Edit: I should add that I have 3 other cables with that same design and they are all complete junk. It's a shame Samsung doesn't make a similar design... it makes for a much cleaner looking setup.

Also there is a Chinese website called Ali Express that sells MHL extension cables that I thought about trying, but I don't know if they are for 11 pin MHL cables.
[Android General] buzzbamm101:
Area51© thank you for the update!!!! keep them coming!:good::good::good::)

Jorge
[Android General] s0uli:
Again a big step forward ;) Can't waite for the new release! Great work Area51!
[Android General] FingerBlastJ:
I know about aliexpress and alibaba, i bought a photobooth for my business on it for 4k and im avoiding that site for the rest of my life. Trust me, its worth paying a little more for something that actually works. I just like that its clean like you said.
[Android General] androidmechanic:
I'm running AT&T Note 3 rooted without the latest update. I think I'm running MI9. I am having issues connecting to the AppRadio2. It goes to 75% then fails. I heard somewhere that u need to run a different ROM for it to connect because of knox. Has anyone ran into this problem?
[Android General] maxum3300:
Will ARU work on my S3 with 4.3 and Knox?

I ordered the avh-x8500bhs and the microbypass today. Should be here by Friday. Im going to try using the official appradio app at first but hope to eventually be able to use ARU. I know my phone needs to be rooted in order to work but I have no idea how to do it. I posted a thread about rooting and someone provided me a link to the process on how to root it but it may as well been written in German because I had no idea what to do. I am thinking about using one of the sponsors on this forum, androidroot.com and let them root my phone but I know my phone has knox on it. Once I get it rooted well I be able to use ARU even though the phone will still have KNOX on it? I hate to spend $40 to have them root it if it isn't going to work anyway because of Knox.
[Android General] ixian:
See my Tasker setup from the last page. Short answer is use Tasker to turn BT off, then on, then launch ARU.

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What phone/Android version? Knox shouldn't matter for root, that comes in to play more if you try to unlock the bootloader, etc, which you don't need to do for a simple root, which is all ARU requires to install.
[Android General] maxum3300:
I have at Galaxy S3 i747 with 4.3 android. I found a youtube video on how to root it without using a computer. It simply say download a file called framaroot and run it, however when I try to install it I get this error saying install blocked. For security your device is set to blockinstallations of apps not obtained from Google play. For the heck of it I tried to download Aru15 last night to see if it would work but got the same error, while I have heard others have downloaded Aru with a non rooted phone and have been able to do so. Granted it wouldn't work to its full potential without the root but they were able to download it none the less. I believe Knox is preventing me from downloading anything.
[Android General] sjorge3442:
Ok. so I was able to stuff it behind the dash. Works pretty good and there is no delay in connection.

However, while I was driving last night I bumped the cable out of my phone and ever since then I CANNOT get the phone and radio to sync properly.

I am able to bypass all the "Are you sure Appradio is running" screens which gets me to the point where I can view my phones screen on the HU, but I cannot touch it. When I touch the screen it just gives me the finger icon with the red x. Obviously I'm not getting 100% connection, otherwise I could control the screen. What gives here?

Im running HTC One With Insert Coin Sense Rom with Nova Launcher and 100% genuine pioneer mhl adapter.
[Android General] Area51©:
In the security settings did you enable Unknown sources?
[Android General] androidmechanic:
I tried to use Tasker and it's like trying to learn Japanese. I am so clueless to Tasker.

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I also flashed X-Note last night thinking that I would be able to connect but still fails at 75%. I'm at a loss :(
[Android General] sjorge3442:
Can you still see your screen on the HU though? I wasnt having the failing at 75% issue until when I accidentally unplugged my phone while driving yesterday.
[Android General] maxum3300:
Ah Ha! No it did not but thanks to you I just did it and it allows me to install ARU now. I didnt complete the download yet since my phone isn't rooted yet. Now I wounder if that method of rooting without the computer that I saw on you tube will work now that I've gotten past the security block. Unfortunately I can't find that you tube video anymore. I will try searching for framaroot and see if I can find the video. If so I will post a link and hopefully you or someone else can tell me if that method works with 4.3. I'm very cautious because I don't want to ruin my phone.
[Android General] Area51©:
It's here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2130276 but it doesn't list your phone as compatible.

Apparently this one can work: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1963790
[Android General] ixian:
What happens when you bounce BT after this happens? I.e. turn it off, then on again on the phone while ARU, etc are running.

Because I have that problem all the time which is why I use Tasker to bounce it. At first I didn't, it just started happening after a couple days, I think it's something with the BT profile, AppRadio, and/or ARU that triggers it.
[Android General] sjorge3442:
I tried resetting the BT when I was driving yesterday, but I think I closed ARU. I will try keeping everything running when I do it today.

Should I do it from the AppRadio Homescreen?
[Android General] ixian:
All I do, before I automated the process with Tasker, is go in to the phone settings and turn it on/off there. A few seconds after it reconnects ARU jumps in to action.

Is your ROM 4.4? I hear this is a common problem with BT on 4.4. I have an N5 with 4.4.2.
[Android General] sjorge3442:
I've been putting off switching to 4.4 because of the issues i've read with AppRadio and 4.4, so I've been rolling with 4.3 (Plus this Insert Coin ROM has been running really good for me)

Anyway, are what point on the AppRadio should I set it when I do the bluetooth reset? Just on the home screen where I would hit the Apps button, with ARU running and then cycle the BT?

Also, could you share your tasker settings for that? I'm still having issues with learning how to use tasker.
[Android General] maxum3300:
I tried the second link and it didn't work.I clicked start, some data scrolled in the Odin screen but the phone never reboot.

I know the box on the top left in Odin is supposed to be yellow and when the root is complete it goes green and says pass. For me there is nothing in that box. Its' a white empty box. Also my computer is not seeing my phone when its in download mode.
[Android General] androidmechanic:
I wish I could clear the old blue tooth settings on my hu but it's not lit up. Can't press the button cut its dim. Can't even reset my hu because it's not lit up. Why is that?
[Android General] sjorge3442:
I also need an answer to this. It seems like certain options come and go as they please. I've noticed this for the audio settings as well.

edit: just found this http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/36129-menus/

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After doing some reading it appears that the greyed out options are due to the parking brake check. I have a micro bypass installed, so I dont see why I would ever have any options greyed out.