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[Android General] leobg:
I use a converter I got from eBay that's capable for up to 3A. It is very slim and compact, barely wider and taller then the actual USB connector. It was under 10 bucks if I remember right. Works great so far. I have it rigged to the 12v switchable power so it doesn't drain battery when car off. I can provide link if somebody is interested.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Please do :)
[Android General] kachaffeous:
Make it 31 :)

What is the gps injector for? Really haven't played with the radio too much. Is it for google maps or the built in gps? What cable do I need for a GNex; tried the slimport but it didn't work. Slimport works with the N5 though.
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the donation.

GPS Injector injects HU GPS as mock location so that you can use it with any navigation program. Like google maps for instance.

I think for GNex you need a MHL adapter.
[Android General] bigcid10:
So I guess I wouldn't need the injector with a 8500bhs and a GS4 then
[Android General] basmand:
Hi

Make it 32

Basmand [4970854]

Please remember us that are using stick version

Basmand:good:
[Android General] Area51©:
If that HU doesn't have a GPS receiver built in then no.
[Android General] mikek753:
No, x8500bhs doesn't have GPS unlike AR3.

The x8500bhs needs phone GPS, so gps injection will not help for this case.

BTW - I can't figure out what MHL to use for x8500bhs, it's so much pain to make everything work together.

I got white Samsung MHL 2.0, but when it's connected to USB of x8500bhs for power, the HU is locked to "iPod / USB" input and nothing can switch to radio or SD or DVD.

This Samsung MHL 2.0 outputs something that isn't expected by x8500bhs

The only way to make it work I have to provide power from 12V outlet by USB car charger and this doesn't fit / looks any good :crying:

But, this MHL 2.0 is stable vs whatever I tried before
[Android General] lpasq:
Power pulled from spare 5amp fuse socket so power only on when ignition is on. USB lead runs adjacent to the standard, of the shelf, HDMI cable. Both pass through center console and into area just to beginning of center armrest storage compartment. The power USB is connected to Slim Port as is HDMI... and only the Slim Port USB enters though to center storage bin where I connect and rest phone while mobile. Should mention the N5 recognized and charges as AC Power. Second drive today, 90-minutes, phone battery was at 86% pre commute and was fully charged when arriving at destination. Cycled through playing Pandora and also Google Music the whole time with phone screen on. Battery heated to a max of 52C. I wonder what the battery drain will be when adding GPS in the future? Really liking the N5.
[Android General] Vin87:
After using Arliberator for almost a year on my Nexus 4 I'm now using Appradio Unchained because it works better with KitKat, also it seems to connect much more often and much faster. I'm happy to pay you €25 (what I paid for Arliberator) once the GPS injection is there. I use the software daily with Flitsmeister (real time radar control locations in the Netherlands). I'm glad this app seems to work with the Nexus 5 too, I'm trying to obtain one, allthough this is quite hard in the Netherlands.

Keep up the good work. Greetings from a fellow Dutchy. If I can help you with anything, testing (I use the app every working day for two hours) or graphical design let me know.
[Android General] lpasq:
Happy to report that testing N5 KitKat's OK Google prompt for Google Now works for me in the following scenario: Connected to AR3 with ARU via SlimPort...Phone stored in closed, center console bin with the center armrest lid closed... Upon speaking "OK Google", the Google Now assistant opens... I asked for the weather in my city and it displayed the weather and also replied text-to-speech through stereo speakers. Engine was off so the usual high ambient noise interference was not present as would be in real world use.
[Android General] evillela2001:
Quick unrelated question, which slimport adapter did you get? I got the one from the link and I am having trouble with it. Sometimes I get snow sometimes it doesn't even connect.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DWGB6CU/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks for your help.
[Android General] lpasq:
i have bought three of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and in under one-year, two have fried and the third is now in use. I ordered the same one you did, yesterday, but am concerned it may not be the same as what i've used to date because it has no model number and uses this description, "Connect MyDP enabled mobile devices to any TV" and doesn't list SP1002 anywhere that i saw. i bought it to test it out and at least have a spare if the SP1002 i started using yesterday goes bad too. all those i bought, the SP1002, and the one we both just ordered are form the same amazon vendor so maybe they just describe it different. their is a chance i've been getting knock-offs...i think and hope not since i link to the vendor from here http://www.slimportconnect.com/accessories/ ...there is another maker of the slimport hdmi connector as you'll see from the analogix link. ...maybe worth a try since the one branded slimport is elusive and the manufacture's website information is hard to follow cleanly. when i see SP1002 on amazon, i always buy a spare but right now they are not easy to find and when you do they priced like a barrel of crude oil. i never pay more than $30-$35 normally. i think they go bad, for me, because i mangle the thin cable that is the run from the hdmi connection module to the micro-usb plug. i end up twisting and shoving it over the hundreds of connect/disconnect cycles...or maybe it gets hot from the hardwire 12V~24V, 5V, 1200mA i have running through it...
[Android General] Jbot747:
N00b trying to get ARU to work

I donated the few dollars left in my paypal account-

Confirmation number: 0NC53230W3323070B

More to follow once I can get the app to work. Is thee a guide or something? I installed on my SG3 [rooted] for use w/ my AVIC-950BH. I don't have ARLiberator installed, since it doesn't work w/ AR3, but I have the Pioneer AppRadio App. I can't see the ARU app, even though it installed successfully as far as I can tell. Is it just a hack, or extension and not an app? I installed -

arunchained0.13.apk

Multicon Widget

Notification Toggle

Rotation Locker

Tasker - [Pending install]

I have the real adapter [Samsung HDMI Smart Adapter EPL3FHUBEGS ]

But I just see the standard screen, with the 'cant touch this icon'

http://xdaforums.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
[Android General] lpasq:
I should add that I accessed from home screen shortcut press since I use Apex Launcher and remove the action Google search widget. That means I don't yet know how the "OK Google" voice prompt would function as if it were always listening.
[Android General] kachaffeous:
Pretty sure you have to uninstall the Appradio app. I did the same thing installed the appradio app then the ARU.apk thought it installed but it errors out. Uninstall appradio, then install ARU.
[Android General] stargate125645:
So does it work with Google maps, for example? Or just Waze? Are you sure it is the AR microphone?

Isolate the phone and cover its mic...

There are many more downloads to ARL than 1100, so I think you are underestimating the potential for an income stream unless that developer starts paying attention to AR2 users again like he should have a long time ago (honestly, just talking about that guy pisses me off. He could have fixed things a long time ago if he weren't so arrogant). You are also using someone else's work to build off of, so getting too expensive may draw some ire (same as releasing a hacked version on the Play Store). $7 is more than acceptable in my eyes, though, but I am obviously not Pioneer. I was planning on donating more than that once you get the remaining desired features to work (namely GPS, and the remaining play/pause button), so I would just donate the remainder after the license fee if that's the route you choose.
[Android General] Vin87:
Nexus 4 with 4.4 and Google Now 'OK GOOGLE' works, allthough it only works on the homescreen or in Google Now. It does not function in Maps. Another advantage is Google Now is also able to call contacts and open apps!

With the right Tasker settings this AU connects 100%. I've set:

Profiles: State > USB connected , class: Any , with one tasks:

default task:1) Bluetooth off

2)Bluetooth on

Now you don't have to connect anything in a certain order and it does not matter of the HU is already connected with bluetooth

I also added a second task:

Profile: Bluetooth connected to Appradio, with two tasks:

default task: Display brightness 0, disable safeguard, immediate effect

exit task: Display brightness 50, immediate effect

:D:D
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for your opinion. There are many considerations. Most of all I am trying not to bite off more than I can chew. I already made half of a ARL clone and am (ab)using the Pioneer app mostly just to communicate with the various AppRadio models. While it's certainly within my capabilities to reverse engineer the communication protocol it would take a huge amount of work to test it with all the HUs that support AppRadio. Something for which I currently don't have the time. So for now I am sticking to my approach to have a modded app that you can download for free and a paid app for a modest fee that provides GPS support. I will see how that goes. Depending on the results I might still decide later to create a "full" app.
[Android General] MonkeyTime:
This is getting exciting!

Ok, new owner of a AP3 and just getting into this whole setup.

I've read all of this thread, and searched, so if I ask a covered question, let the berating fly, I deserve it!

1. Is there an advantage to hooking up an S4 in either of these two setups? I've got the Pioneer android adapter, I'm waiting on my 11-5 pin adapter, but reading the directions, not sure. HML vs direct HDMI? Could I just grab an mhl to hdmi converter like this one -

http://www.amazon.com/Afunta-reg-ad...384019722&sr=8-9&keywords=samsung+mhl+adapter

and connect directly to the back of the unit w/out the CD-AH200C kit? I'm guessing I would still need the pin adapter, but what would I be missing or would this not work at all?

The other option is just to use the Pioneer adapter and a pin adapter like this one

http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-System...ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A24Y22QERZZ9SS

at the end of my existing micro-usb cable and see if that works. I've got this cable run thru the car to my iBolt dock on my windshield which is how I got my audio out in the past. Damn BT module in my car does everything EXCEPT A2DP lol.

Ok, last question, and this one may be an easy one or I'm really missing something. Does the phone need to be connected to change the input from "Iphone" to "Others"? I've tried a few different ways, cleared everything and started over, but I don't find a way to change that setting. I've tried long pressing, short pressing, and nothing gives me another selection choice?

For the record, I've downloaded the 3rd beta twice (testing different phones), but haven't donated yet. Once I get myself up and running this is easily worth a healthy one! I'd rather do that than wait for the GPS integrator and it's anticipated $7 tag. You've put more work into this than that!

Thanks in advance,
[Android General] Area51©:
This part I can answer. To change the input to "Others" nothing must be connected via bluetooth at all. I think there should be no HDMI input signal as well. So make sure your phone's bt is switched off and the phone is not connected via HDMI, then power cycle the HU.

For the S4 connection part I am sure M.a.s.e can answer that.
[Android General] 400ixl:
Yes you could use that lead (wouldn't need a converter as it is 11 pin, but not MHL 2.0) but be warned that many have suffered from snow when using non OEM.

All you really need is:

An HDMI lead

A MHL 2.0 "genuine" Samsung converter

A power source (e.g. cigarette lighter to USB) capable of supplying more than 1amp

A USB lead to go from the power source to the MHL lead
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
DID U DO A SEARCH??????

OK OK kidding, I just had to lol.

OK for s4 u will need without Abby other possibility to buy either an original 5-11tip from Samsung. Our Sammy devices different then regular mhl . from some annoying reason Samsung decided to use a different mhl connection on our phones. Pioneer kit and regular mhl cables will need to have that 5 to 11 tip on top and that tip adapter will be connected to ur phone. That cable u posted even tho it says sg4 I wouldn't trust. Past experience from all people in this thread showed that unless u use Samsung original 5 to 11 adapter OR Samsung original mhl2.0 cable you will get snow and eventually give up and buy the original as stated. If u already have the pioneer kit just but the tip and it well work perfectly. Or u can try to go the route of wireless HDMI but I tested it and wasn't happy to my standards with lag time. IBOLT car dock u will not b able to use the dock cable since u will need to have the NHL tip connected. Do u have the appradio3? U didn't mention.... Cause u said u don't have a2dp in ur car but the ar3 has built in a2dp....as for others area covered that one.

No need for anything to connected for thatnn
[Android General] MonkeyTime:
Thanks Area, heading out to play with it now. Worst part is with all the adapters on order, I have my car scheduled to go in on Tuesday for some body work, the same day everything will start arriving...... having it and not being able to play is going to kill me!

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"Ok, new owner of a AP3 and just getting into this whole setup." Ok, Ok, I just had to do it! lol....Granted, it would have been a little clearer if I had typed AR3!

So in your opinion, do you think it would work to go directly into the HDMI input on the back of the unit or would I have to use the Pioneer adapter kit and go to HML? I've got a whole host of parts and pieces on order from Amazon, gotta love their return policy and will play with it later this week when it's all here and I have my car back from the shop. I was just curious because I tried my sons Moto Mini directly to the back and it didn't work, but I was in the middle of the physical install and really didn't play with it or have the input changed to "Other" yet.

Also a quick thanks to 400ixl - I love the support around this place! There's something to be said when the support of a community like this is incredibly better than the support directly from the manufacturers!
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
u can connect directly to the HDMI in the back of the HU (head uinit = appradio3) but u will lose something really important.... charge.... that will be bad, no? :)

here is what u need to have ur SG 4 connected with 0 issues fully working and charging:

the cable kit (HDMI and charge):

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YCZT58/ref=oh_details_o09_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

you will need this TIP - ALOT of people say to order directly from samsung - which i also recommend BUT that being said i bought this exact one and it seems like i got the original and it works flawlessly:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083FYL0O/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

the seller i purchased it from via amazon: (Sold by: Upper Class Sales)

Also, it might be just that i just woke up or im confused in general, but u said u still hadnt connected ur appradio 3 to ur car?

if thats the case, have u also bought this: ?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008NQL00W/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And do u have steering wheel controllers on ur , hmmmm steering wheel?
[Android General] hoopty3:
Also, in order to change input to 'others', you will need to set source to off. (Speaker icon found on second page of display)
[Android General] leobg:
This one is mine, but this is for set of 10. Couldn't find a single listing.. However this one seem to be perfect and is even smaller.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
That's perfect thank u so much
[Android General] Area51©:
I have this one 12V to 5V DC-DC converter but I didn't test it yet.
[Android General] lpasq:
nice :good:

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what i have installed: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007O59Z7I/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Do u have that connected to the pioneer kit n then to the phone?
[Android General] leobg:
This one will work too, it is basically the same, just lacks the USB connector(s)
[Android General] -=Jeff=-:
I would like to donate, but I am waiting for the invert XY to be working so I can use it with my HDMI stick. The only version you made with it work was without the hardware button support so I am looking forward to the improvements
[Android General] Area51©:
GPS status

Made some more progress on the GPS injector app.

This was on my todo list:

- Make it more robust by catching some more errors.

- Hack the AppRadio app a bit more so I don't have to use the Waze SDK key.

- Make some provisions for autostarting the app when connecting to the HU.

- Add a status screen to the app so you can see it's working.

- See how to put it in the play store.

For the status screen I have to fix a tiny thingy.

Also have to add a new icon.

To put it in the play store I have to add some license check things and then it's done.

It works pretty well now. You have to install it but after that you don't really have to mess with it as it's service is automatically started and stopped by ARU.

When you start the app you'll get a status screen and can see stuff like how many messages received from the HU and the GPS info.

The release will be available soon, in 1 or 2 days.
[Android General] MonkeyTime:
u can connect directly to the HDMI in the back of the HU (head uinit = appradio3) but u will lose something really important.... charge.... that will be bad, no? :)

That's what I was missing! I couldn't figure out if there would be anything different between the two setups lol. Yes, for charging, it's worth it.

No, I've installed the AR3, and yes, I've accounted for the steering wheel controls, parking brake and such. All of that is on order and should be here mid-week. I've got the radio in, and hooked up, just missing all my connections.

I did get to change the input to others, not sure why it didn't work last night. I went in and could have done it from common sense today grrrr.

The only thing I haven't got figured out is the BT connection. When I get it connected, it will do radio and phone, but it doesn't connect up in SPP mode, so it won't go into APPRADIO mode. I was hoping it was just the IPhone vs Other setting, but that didn't change anything.

Has anyone gotten an S4 to connect in all three modes? (phone, music and appradio which shows up as two opposing arrows in the connection status)

A little football and then back at it!

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Could you just put a license app in the playstore and leave the app itself here or on a website? Just know there are a number of apps that you get a trial, then you download a second app that is just a license unlock. Just a thought from a non-programmer.

Thanks for all your work, can't wait to get this all set up.
[Android General] basmand:
Hi

You are doing a great work, just one question, do you have any idea why every time I use an Pioneer app including ARU touch screen calibration starts over (on stick version) it seams like calibration data is not saved

Basmand:good:
[Android General] Area51©:
Sorry I have no idea why it won't work. Does the original AppRadio app also have that problem?
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes it will be similar to that. The modded app will stay here. So you can try it. Only the GPS part that makes the HU GPS data available to any navigation app that you would like to use will be a separate app that can be bought from the play store.
[Android General] 400ixl:
One tip on the licensing side, don't make it check every time at start up. Many start their cars in the garage, car park, or other areas that don't necessarily have data or wifi connections.

That hindered ARL for a while for some people, and something you can avoid.
[Android General] stargate125645:
$7 really isn't asking much, especially if your add on is separate from Pioneer's program (I don't think they could complain, but then I'm not a lawyer). In fact, it is an elegant solution. If you can keep your own programming separate it might even help keep you running when Pioneer updates things because then you won't have to add in all the programming again; you would just need to hack and interface with your software. Keeping you working by avoiding any cease-and-desist letters from Pioneer is all about being selfish on my end. ARL has been nothing but frustrating, and you have been the exact opposite. Your work has been fantastic, and I'd like to see more. I'll stand behind you regardless of what you decide to do because you have a great - and necessary - product.
[Android General] Jbot747:
putting a new rom and firmware on my phone..

so, do i need to just install ARU first, and then appradio? or just install ARU?

thx!
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Just aru
[Android General] Area51©:
If AppRadio is installed, uninstall it first. Then install ARU, that's it.
[Android General] kachaffeous:
Anyone try Moto X with this? According to this post is doesn't support MHL or Slimport. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45358831&postcount=9

Tmobile doesn't have good coverage for my N5, so looking at getting a verizon phone. Thinking either Moto X, Note 3 or Lg G2. The g2 should be a direct replacement for the N5 (but I hate the logos on the front). The Note 3 I need to buy a samsung adapater. Only question is if the moto X works with this.
[Android General] lpasq:
No. It connects direct to SlimPort... then I have a standard HDMI cable connecting HU and SlimPort.
[Android General] gjlowe:
Hi all. My mic doesn't work with this head unit, and while I have very little thought that this is ARU's issue, I wanted to see if anyone had something similar. I made sure TWICE that the mic was connected properly in the back of the head unit. When I make a phone call no one can hear me. I did a bunch of testing with my home phone, and sure enough, the audio coming FROM the phone works but nothing from the mic.
[Android General] papa3r:
Try to refresh your BT connection....but first you must clear the old one on both device (phone & HU)....

If it is connected properly, the speakers and microphone will be handled by HU .... no sound anymore from phone

Even without ARU should HU will take over the function of phone call when BT is connected properly ...

You've tried without using ARU? how did it go?
[Android General] gjlowe:
I tried this to no avail.
[Android General] papa3r:
I believe this is not related to the ARU / Native AppRadio ... although it should be able to use phone call perfectly, even without the ARU

when first connecting BT allow everything and check the box than press ok ....

ARU clear data would be more convincing

"sorry if my english annoying"
[Android General] kinetx:
I was having major issues getting passed the dreaded "red X of death" using ARLiberator with my HTC One (M7) and AppRadio2. Thanks for this great app - my phone now connects first time, every time, extremely quickly. I cannot find any bugs or issues with beta 3.
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the tip and welcome to the "dark side".
[Android General] Area51©:
Maybe a stupid remark, did you connect it to the right input? It would physically be possible to put it in the wired remote input.

Or the mic might be broken.