yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] animania260:
Right on thanks brother.

As for settings I use showp hotplug, but I haven't tried the new hotplug from faux123. He did some very interesting stuff with it though on his latest revision so once I merge and test it on the N7 I'll give it a go again.

Clock 1.7GHz -75 uv, 1.22 Cache/Bus OC, 504 GPU with -75 uv. MC power saving set to 2, and Gentle Fair Sleepers enabled for a more stock battery life. No sweep2wake stuff enabled.

Thing I love about thus kernel is it has EVERYTHING, and every option, plus Glitches own commits. This is the only kernel I've ever seen with so many updates and performance improvements from everywhere. Its quite amazing, that's why I want to try and keep it updated.

Unfortunately I can only really merge, build, and test. I can fix some small errors with merges sometimes but not much else. I'll try to keep the AOSP kernel as updated as I can. Hopefully Glitch is just busy with life and personal stuff. I hope he is okay actually.

Anyway I'll try the new faux hotplug updates when I can and post the update this weekend or earlier next week.

Thanks guy's/gal's
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Medel-Silver:
I'm with it now, thanks my friend
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] just lou:
When did it become OK to start modifying someone else's kernel and hijacking a developer's thread? Has Tk-Glitch granted permission for any of this?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] animania260:
Crap here it comes. Its more like just an in-between until Glitch comes back... or not. Either way I have contributed in a small way to Glitches releases and he said he did not mind me posting an update before.

Idk if its against XDA rules, but I really don't want to make a new kernel thread- which would basically be mostly minor updates to TK-Glitches kernel here. But I'll stop posting here if that's how it has to be. I guess it makes sense not to post an independent update on this thread. But at the same time it seems stupid to make a new thread for minor updates.

Maybe a Google+ post or something for my little updates.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] kingston73:
Unless a mod tells you not to do it you're fine, don't stop because somebody has a bug up their bum.:good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
I will step in on this, and hopefully sort it out.

Lou - in response to your question, please see the rules as noted here:

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81

"If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails, you may then contact a Moderator and provide clear evidence that the work was created by you.

Convincing evidence will result in the copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence that it was you who created the work, then in the spirit of sharing, all work will remain posted on the forums.

As an addition, developers have the right to hold exclusivity over their work for as long as it is deemed necessary by that developer. However, if the work is claimed as exclusive, it must remain as such. No selective sharing will be allowed (ie, allowing certain people to use it and not others). Should the developer decide to start sharing the work with others, the work automatically becomes fair game for all to use, albeit with the relative credit displayed."

Now, as far as i can tell, animania260 has followed the rules to the best of his ability:

Credit is given

Source is given

The OP does not list exclusivity

Given that the OP has been otherwise unreachable, I see no issue with animania260 picking up his publicly available work, and continuing it, so long as full credit and acknowledgement is given (AKA, he does not try to pass off the entirety of the kernel source as his own). However, if the OP comes back and requests the work stop, then such a request must be honored. As it is, i don't see that 260 is trying to steal or defame anyone; i see that is trying to support the community for a developer who may have taken a leave of absence.

That said, I think it would be respectful and correct, to have animania260 make a new thread in the regular N7 2013 Android Development thread to continue progress there. You are welcome to drop a link in this thread, but please continue any progress in a new thread. Additionally, if/when Glitch comes back, please contact him to make sure he is ok with continued work; if he requests it taken down, please do so.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] animania260:
Thanks for sorting that Madcat!

I'll post a link to new thread later this weekend.

Lets not clutter this thread anymore.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] davexd97:
When i have S2W enabled , if i swipe up/down on the right side of the screen when holding the tablet in portrait the screen turns off, and when swiping down/up in the left screen it turns off too, i know that's where the navigation bar would be when on landscape, but is there a way to "fix" it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] gravedigger76:
Does anyone know what happened to Glitch?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
Maybe he's doing a few days in the clink... who knows, but I find the kernel to be excellent as is.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bmccoy11:
Not sure... He hasn't replied to any of my Google+ messages for a while now. He might just be taking a break for a while or he might be busy working on other things.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] masri1987:
I can't. Find a kernel to work on Vanir for the life of me
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] PwnCakes193:
It's sad Glitch is gone but we have to keep this updated! I really want to see Intelliactive, I might compile my own to be honest.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] papikev:
Don't want to start any rumors of any sorts, but real life sometimes takes precedence over things like xda. I agree though, his kernel is one of, if not the best around. I do remember earlier in the thread that Glitch talked about health issues he once had (or perhaps still has) Could be a situation where he just needs to take care of himself, who knows. I too look forward to his return, but if not, let's hope the guy is alright. Search 'health' in this thread if you want to know what I am referring to.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
Certainly, i think i can speak for everyone when I say that hopefully Glitch is ok, in both personal and health issues, and that he can continue his great work.

And at the same time (again, assuming the rules are followed), i hope others can keep working with the community in the meantime, and keep doing what makes XDA so great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] farenteria:
Yeah, I'm hoping nothing serious is going on. The kernel is amazing, and updates can wait
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
Well said. I for one know how addicting it can be to flash the next nightly or weekly and so on, whether it's a rom or kernel. And judging by this thread, 142 is pretty rock solid. I'm really enjoying my flo right now and don't mind at all riding with it for the time being.

That being said, this is a community of developers and nothing should ever stop the progress.

As Frank Herbert said... The Spice must flo!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] wondakson:
Thanks glitch. No matter what kernel I tried in the last couple weeks I always come back to this kernel.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] animania260:
I'm just going to post a link to my Google+ profile for my independent updates of TK-Glitches custom kernel. I don't feel comfortable making a new thread on XDA with my limited abilities.

See here: https://plus.google.com/117666739212575910795/posts/UhZmjS79KP4

The link has the new version with Faux123's new intellactive and intelliplug hotplug updates, and other random patches. I post a lot of random stuff but if you want just add me, and send me a hangout message or an email and I will put you a circle to share updates to the kernel with you so you won't get all the random stuff.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] matcho13579:
Cannot download the file, I sent you access request :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] lasset:
Same for me!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] skaven2k2:
For me too
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] animania260:
Sorry I fixed that. Please don't post problems in this thread though.

I was just posting link to my profile. Please post on the Google+ post or send me a hangouts message or an email if you issues with my builds.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] CrashTestDroid:
It should be noted that your kernel is non-CAF, while most reading this thread might think it's CAF because of the title.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
I can't post on Google plus because I don't want my real name out in the open like that. On the latest build I was getting a lot of instability when using intelli plug.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
Did you get sleep of death?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
Yes
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
So it's not just me, I flashed back to 142. And no more sod.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
Yes. Same here.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HenryJe:
I am a beginner in using Nexus 7, and i noticed that this kernel is one of the best, people can u please give me advice because i know know that setting is the best for beginners like me
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] nokiagye:
I'll make a video with my settings i post the link the night
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] papei4ever:
Good evening,I'm on the verge of buying a new nexus 7 and I would like to know how it performs at browser benchmarks like sunspider with a custom kernel like this one because currently I own an iPad and scores high at sunspider (680ms) despite being 1.5 years old,thx in advance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
You can get it as low as 800 in sunspider with a moderate overclock.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] NYCHitman1:
Why does a benchmark matter? Real world performance is the only thing that ultimately matters, which benchmarks can't tell you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
Benchmarks are of great value and can accurately gauge real world performance. Perhaps you like to keep your head in the sand but I like to know how my hardware compares to other products.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] oTeMpLo:
IS this kernel abadoned?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] sizzlers:
Is it really? There can't be noone here close to the dev to share something.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
It's on hiatus, but the latest build is working great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Andromendous:
I think you both make good points, benchmarks are ok for getting a basic idea of the performance of your device, however they just cant tell you what the real world experience will be. But real world experience just isnt good for people who are short on "time", and its. Just fun that way.? in other words, their good for paper and comparison, but it doesnt really matter in real life
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bmccoy11:
I've been getting the sleep of death, and the camera randomly doesn't work when using r142.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] just lou:
I've never had a SOD or any issues with the camera on 142.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
Neither have I. Runs rock solid for me. OC, UV, and all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bmccoy11:
It's probably due to me running Cyanogenmod, which isn't AOSP based.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
Did you use the CAF version of Glitch?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bmccoy11:
Yes, of course.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] nokiagye:
Sorry for the delay http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=by4980g-_tY
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Gandalf:
does a benchmark REALLY matter?

let's take a look at this in a logical manner:

If you can use a device with X rom / Y kernel / Z config, and everythign runs smooth, battery life is good, and no bugs other than what are inherited from the actual ROM itself, why should we care what "score we get on Antutu?"

In all reality, we shouldn't If it works, works well, and meets our daily usage needs, then what does it matter?

Answer: it doesn't
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] SickBeast:
I will give you an example where benchmarks matter. Someone named faux created an overclocking kernel for my phone, the moto g. We were unfortunately able to prove using benchmarks that the overclock was having no effect whatsoever. Personally with the nexus 7 I have installed the glitch, Franco, and elemental kernels and I benchmarked all three. I was able to conclude that the glitch kernel was the fastest by at least 10 percent. Perhaps some of you won't notice or care but I like to know that my hardware is performing at its optimal level.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] hardwareadictos:
I have a problem installing this kernel, on aroma (or the name of the installer) when at the end of the install i press finish button my nexus 7 shutta off, i have to press power button 10 seconds to wake it, and when it booted to androis, all tablet settings arw disconfigured :(

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] adomol:
In your TWRP settings, disable your screen sleep.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] stamatis:
Thread cleaned.

Please don't derail the thread with nonsense arguments. Stay on topic.

Thanks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] kingston73:
OK, back to actual posts about the kernel...since there are only a few custom kernels for the n7 how up to date is this compared with the others? In other words, even though glitch is mia and this hasn't been updated for a while am I missing out on anything by continuing to use this?

Second question, is there any type of guide for changing the color settings or is it just experiment and see?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] NYCHitman1:
Even in Tk's absence, the kernel is still top notch. I haven't found anything nearly as feature rich yet. Of course, there are some bugs that can be squashed in the interim, but they aren't major by any means.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tibere86:
Anyone know the sysfs paths for gamma control? Trying to input gamma settings in my init.d script.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
Search is your friend. Here is the answer.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tibere86:
Thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] ozg33k:
Can anybody recommend settings via trickstermod for good battery life and performance?? Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] NYCHitman1:
384-1728 CPU clock

384 screen off

Interactive cpu gov

1024 RA CFQ sched

Ondemand GPU gov

504 GPU max freq

-50 CPU voltage

-50 GPU voltage
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] commuterbox:
I dunno if its just me or everybody else but I updated my flo to latest cm 0425 and I cant get it to finish boot. I have tried different settings on aroma to get it to boot but the furthest I have gone is just starting apps then it boot loops from there. I guess im just trying to see if what settings what you guys have set to get to boot to home screen. Thank you
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tibere86:
I'm running latest CM11 4/25 nightly without issue with Glitch v142. Did you try a clean wipe?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] commuterbox:
What settings did you use?

Sent from my Nexus 7 CM11
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] hakcenter:
Got your head really deep in the dirt don't you ?

How do we measure anything ? Benchmark. Measuring app loading time, benchmark. Measure app swap time, benchmark.

Measure io performance for multi app performance.

You can measure your theoretical horsepower by the seat of your ass, but until you run it at the track to see how it actually performs you won't know crap.

That's why people "waste" time making benchmarks that are more geared towards user type work loads right ?

Just keep your head in the ground, but remember every time you view the battery tab you're benchmarking your device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] AndyYan:
Got a point there, but most guys out there just do a "general" benchmark without knowing their respective use-cases and then tell everyone that the device is slow/fast on everything. AnTuTu/Quadrant are still far from everyday use patterns, let alone more specific benchmarks.

When it comes to objectively measuring some data, specific benchmarks help a lot, like those specially designed for 3D, battery, etc., but I believe that real world performance is a unique, mixed up package that no benchmark can handle it for all, and that one should use the phone to their likings for some time to see if real world performance goes well.

And can't we talk about this in peace?

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Divine_Madcat:
OK guys.. lets act like the adults that we should be, and just move on. Some like benches, some don't. The wonderful thing about our community, is there is enough room for everyone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tetakpatak:
I just have flashed Glitch r142 on my (still quite new N7 flo) over Carbon KK and I really love how it feels and works.

BTW: hi guys... I'm now member of the Nexus community :D

(tough old # user)

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] InkSlinger420:
Fancy meeting you here....
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tetakpatak:
The pleasure is mine, mate! :)

Hello again!

I've already made an useful little guide here under N7 Q&A

I love my new N7 and Glitch kernel :)

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] El Nino1977:
I'm not too keen on the aroma but it does give the user the option to choose what's right for their device. Unless glitch provides numerous versions, which I doubt and pointless to do. Aroma is the way to go tbh.

I must be lucky, I have yet to have it crash on me yet...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Tk-Glitch:
I've tried everything to get boot freq to stick to stock but I couldn't get that to work. It'll always boot at the max frequency available in the freq table and will drop to stock freq only once it's fully booted. Probably some mpdecision crap again.. BTW it would require that I make X variants for every single user and I'm not ready for that :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] NexusChrist:
Running this with CleanRom 1.6, works absolutely amazing! No issues what so ever thus far. Running 2.0GHz and 600MHz.

Thanks!

Edit: I just wanted to add in my 3DMark Score as well, to give people reference data.

Score on Ice Storm Extreme:

Stock - 6995

OC Kernel - 8607

Score on Ice Store Unlimited:

Stock - 10575

OC Kernel - 12422
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] asrah:
Maybe make it so you can enable the OC steps in a similar way that Ktoonez does for the GS3 Ktoonez747? you have to manually enable OC settings after boot, using Ktweaker. It eliminates OC instability during boot. It seems that the general population of N7 2013's wont boot at 2.3GHZ. That is quite a frequency jump from the devices intended boot settings.

You dont really need to write a full on app for every feature of the kernel. Would just need to be something that only allows OC settings to even exist, AFTER boot.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Tk-Glitch:
[MENTION=5158436]asrah[/MENTION]

Thanks, I'll have a look at his source.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] asrah:
Not a problem, TK-Glitch. Im glad i could be of help to the developer of this awesome kernel.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jianada520:
Thx alot for sharing this kernel. i found a issue that GPU can only be OCd to 627MHz, but only 600MHz (Max) available for gaming. Aspha8 crashed when i was using 627Mhz.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] htowngator:
are you planning any support for deb?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] farenteria:
Most kernels seem to work with both Flo/Deb. I would imagine that this would be the same
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] htowngator:
If that's true they wouldn't have to say one or both. There has to be a difference in the kernel or the dev has to include the differences.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MBQ_:
Just bought the N7 today.

Looks like I found the first kernel ima flash. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] penguin449:
Yo Kyler, did you order it today or have you got it today? And this is by far the best kernel ive used so far, 28k benchmark, no lag playing shadowgun on highest settings, about 50fps antutu! And i have a weak chip, can only use 1.89ghz stably -.-

Nice to see you over here thou :p
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MBQ_:
Always throws me a little when someone uses my real name. Hahah. :D

Yeah man. Went up to Fry's Electronics last night just for kicks, saw it and figured I'd buy it. Hahah. It was a definite impulse buy, but so far, this tablet is AWESOME.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] penguin449:
"Sent from my Galaxy Nexus" Oh MBQ_ ;) and yeah, but the change from stock to a custom rom, it's a bigger step then i expected, it's like going from sense to AOSP, like the difference in performance (for me) was that sorta extremity..

only problem i have is ive got little hands, and cant use it one handed xD

But with Glitch kernel and Carbon, i get 28k, on stock and stock i got about 20k, on stock and custom about 24k, but benchmarks aren't everything, but i can even use go launcher (not that anyone would want too) and it doesnt lag :highfive:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MBQ_:
Technicallllllly, the way Android caches apps and stuff basically void out any real conclusions and validity of benchmark scores.

However, that's cool tho. :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bajong:
how is the battery on standby?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] asrah:
My N7 uses 1-2% during my 8-9 bed time. Thats with wifi on, and skype signed in. Think i might have messed up my battery a bit, by doing a battery test. it got hot as heck during the test. Think i might have worn down the cells a bit. The standby time is the same, but im getting an hour less screen time with gaming.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
Hey im from the nexus 4 forum and as both our devices have the same GPU I was wondering if I could ask about GPU performance. We currently have over clock to 450, 487 and 533 but 533 offers no difference to 487 in benchmarks so we think that it is an invalid frequency and that the GPU is in fact running at the next valid frequency (487).What I was wondering has anybody noticed a difference with frequencies over 487 in benchmarks? Im pretty sure 600 MHz is invalid but I want to know about 504 and 545? Can someone tell me if they notice a difference between 504 and 487 and 545 and 487? Thanks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] p4rot:
Is this kernel suppose to work on vanir ROM?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MBQ_:
Yeah.

This kernel is honestly so good. My N7 runs fantastically, to say the very, very least.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] masri1987:
Which glitch should I flash for Mahdi rom
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
The aosp version.