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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
There is no native root method if you have already updated to kitkat. Though with the work of k1mu I am running stock rooted kitkat with 4.3 mk4 bootloader. I'm currently testing it for a few days and if all is good k1mu will post a thread of instructions. Likewise to Verizon s4, if you want kitkat rooted do not take the ota that's going out right now, wait for instructions. It will be worth your wait :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
How do u keep the ota update from asking to update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Root using k1mu's saferoot thread. Will block the update because it will detect custom instead of official. If you already downloaded the ota and not installed it after rooting install root explorer and navigate to /cache/fota and delete update.zip too. Root is a necessary step before upgrade to kitkat rooted anyway.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2775752

Link to [MENTION=3940199]k1mu[/MENTION] 's thread for root for SCH-I545L. Good luck everyone and be sure to thank him for his hard work for us.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
So are you saying that it won't download the update. Because I have the root method u talk about installed. And it is rooted but it still downloaded the update. And it keeps asking me to install it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Use root explorer navigate to /cache/fota delete the update zip then go to install update and hit yes, it will fail before reboot and shouldn't ask again if rooted. Should get to 4.4.2 rooted with method by k1mu I linked to last page
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xenithxzavier:
Anyone on bluegrass tried the muniz keeproot method yet on previous page to update to kitkat?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Me, I'm the first one who did it via k1mu. I supplied him the files. The flash works for all variants though of the 545L,as it carrier info doesn't get changed apn wise or any way else. Works great. If you need any help with it feel free. Just make sure to not upgrade to 4.4.2 with ota. You can't downgrade the bootloader at that point
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
So can I just install a new custom rom.. and if so any ideas on a rom that works fast and stable?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
You can after you do the upgrade method, or upgrade ota and use towelroot method. As far as what I recommend custom rom wise, either hyperdrive or jrkruse's international rom port. Pretty awesome and what I'm using currently. Make sure you use apn backup and restore to backup your apn to restore before you use a custom rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Ok so if I already have safe safestrap 3.71 4.3 how do I go about updating to kit Kat Ota? Do I do a factory reset than except the Ota update to kitkat than use towelroot? And than will I have kitkat rooted. And than if I want can I put a custom rom on. Or just use kitkat rooted?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Unroot and factory reset, or upgrade via kies, for simple option. Then use towel root or use This thread I linked on last page.

SCH-I545L Upgrade MK4 to NC5 and Keep Root

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2775752
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Towelroot sounds best but if I use kies will that wipe root or do I need a different method to UN root? Sorry but Im a little confused!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Kies will update fully so you upgrade bootloader. So you use Towelroot. All you do is after you install kitkat you install Towelroot app from forum and run it, reboot and install supersu from play store. Then you can download the kitkat 3.72 Safestrap. The older option was bypassing bootloader update and retaining supersu in system. Kies upgrade to 4.4 and Towelroot for your situation is actually the easier option since you don't have the odin for 4.3, tho there's a link for it a few pages back and you can get it on sammobile. In my opinion just Kies to kitkat and Towelroot it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Ok I give it a try.. thanks for ur help
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Ok I installed kies but it says latest firmware already intalled. Now I have exposed installed and it allows me to go into stock recovery.. would a data wipe help? And I on installed safestrap but that didn't help. What you think?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
When it says latest firmware installed what does it say for pda/csc etc versions? I got the odin file via kies so I know it's there. Since you don't have the odin flash Idk if going to recovery and doing a factory reset will cut it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Kies after about 50tries has now offered to upgrade to kit Kat. So Im going to try it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Found a few pages back. This is the 4.3 odin. Download this extract and open odin. Put this into ap slot, don't touch anything else setting wise. Factory reset beforehand. Back up your stuff first. Then either take the ota update or try kies again, or use the update method k1mu made. Ota plus towelroot then install supersu would be easier for you.

https://mega.co.nz/#!HYBVHRQY!AigKnk8oNokcStYZ6GR6l13t1oAa9bQsOHxjEMj1A2U

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Alright, if that doesn't work then try what I said in last post
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
If I use ur file do I have to backup my apns.. or will they be the same?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Shouldn't overwrite apns but I'd back up anyway as you will need it if you choose to use a custom rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
OK I have kick Kat and towel root And su and I guess I'm rooted. But I can't get safe strap to work. It says not installed and the reboot is grayed out.can you help?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Did you open towelroot app after installing and let it do its thing? I'm going to guess no. Just installing app doesn't do it. You gotta open it and let it run. If you already did that:

Try to open supersu and see if it prompts you to install binaries. If it's greyed out then more than likely no root access yet because of the fact. Install binary reboot try again.

Did you download the att 3.72 Ss and install it, then hit install recovery?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
OK what I did was installed over the air ota..than the towel root and supersu.than I downloaded and installed the safe strap 3.72 and hit install. But it goes threw the process and nothing else.so if I manually reboot. Nothing..no recovery safe strap.just says not installed.

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What u mean by att3.72 Ss

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Is it a chance I got the wrong 3.72 safe strap
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Did you install towelroot, open it and hit the "make it rain" option or whatever? Then reboot, install supersu, open it. Install binaries. Reboot. Install this Safestrap http://hosting.crackflasher.com/get...att/safestrap/Safestrap-JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk install recovery and from there hit reboot to recovery

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My bad, left out some stuff. Follow this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784138 follow safestrap method. Step 5 in changing selinux mode is important
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
I will try that download. Cuz that is what I all did. But the reboot in recovery stays grayed out. A pop up says it installed right but it's like it's not there and safe strap in the main section on top says didn't install. But it does show up in the Su application. And I do have root Cuz my apps that need root work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Change selinux mode via step 5 in last thread I linked. Then do safestrap. Then flash supersu zip as linked in that step. Basically follow that thread for a better explanation

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Remember too, if you chose to install a custom rom.. Please please please remember flash supersu before rebooting out of safestrap. You will need our modules too, which I will drop box to you if you want. Here's a link. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xxiuly4xyemyutb/jfltelra-NC5-modules.zip you flash it after a rom in Ss. Rom+supersu+modules. Make sure to backup your apn. Install apn backup and restore. Open titanium backup and convert to system app. Then open root explorer and go to system/app and find the apk for it. Long press on it and hit move. Navigate to system/priv-app and paste it there. Then open app and backup apn. Then when you get on custom rom do the same with it then restore.. Anything else let me know
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
OK i can't find the steps u are talking about.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
>< This part where i told you under the safestrap part

on this forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784138 download appropriate links and follow links to install playstore app for SELinux mode changer. then supersu zip which you flash in safestrap after you do that step. follow those steps
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
OK i found it. .sorry but I was looking it up with my phone xda app.and couldn't find it. But I went under the regular site on the Internet and that paragraph that u talked about. Is there. I find that wierd. But I found it and shall try later thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
OK i did it. Is it normal for the safe strap 3.72 in the recovery to say disabled and safe system not active?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Yup. Rom slots don't work currently. It says safe system when rom slot is in use. Right now you flash over stock slot. Which is why if you choose to flash custom rom, you need to use the backup option for stock first.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Got it and thanks alot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Anyone on Bluegrass use a 3rd party messaging app and get MMS to work? On both stock and the Hyperdrive ROM, I can only use the stock messaging app for MMS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
3rd party you manually have to put in the apn settings in the said messaging app. Are you using custom rom and did you back up and restore stock apn?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
I will check into it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Just gotta backup apn via apn backup and restore from stock rom, and follow instructions how to make the restore function work on kitkat. Basically just need titanium backup and a root Explorer. Then you delete apn and then the restore it. Though if you use bluegrass I have the apn backup myself so you don't have to do it, and just follow instructions how to make apn app work then restore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Yep you are right you normally have to enter the apns manually
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
I've tried manually entering the APN. Is this the one you all are using?...mmsc = http://m.iot1.com/bluegrass/mms.php. Is there a Proxy or Port needed? The APN backup showed those as "null"

I followed your steps for the backup and restore from back on post #283
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
If ur on *bluegrass* use this download, copy into apn backup restore folder on your phone, should be there on internal storage if you have the app. Delete the apns first using app, then restore this one and reboot. Should work. It doesn't work properly to edit it in manually. Restore using prior instructions :P

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hsscvhta6obu45u/apns-20140406182435.xml

linked is apn for bluegrass only. Any other carriers of this variant will have to backup from their stock rom their apn.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Thanks, but still no luck. Attached are some screenshots of the 8sms MMS settings and the APNs in the device settings. Any thoughts?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Weird. Should work with stock messaging app though. I had trouble using a 3party app for it even with apn info in. Is there an option on the app your using to not use manual apn or anything, like to use auto settings rather than what you put in. Don't know man. I'd say just use the stock app as it works fine but idk what your needs in a message app are
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Yeah, it has an option to detect automatically. The main reason I want a different app is for the pop-up notification for quick reply and also a dark theme.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
There's apps for quick reply itself, and I could probably figure out and theme a dark theme for you later, have yet to mess with s5 message tho but it shouldn't be hard. You can change background color of message app to darker gray tho but that's only in message threads.

Idk about some things. I'm far from a good experienced themer. Thought about it, In the main one where it shows all messages is all white still but black font.. Blacking out would make it unreadable, I'm not 100‰ on doing that. I know how to change colors but not a clue in font color, believe that's a xml format. Don't know how to do those, I've only started learning theming from influence of a forum buddy.

I think I have seen a stock dark theme message app though already done, let me get back to you tomorrow, I'll see what I can find for you. Though it might not be the s5 app, don't know who cares at they point, no real difference besides cosmetics. Probably a dark theme s4 message app. Maybe one with quick reply popup mod. I'll check it out bud. Expect a post here or pm tomorrow evening after I get off work. I know I've seen several mods for that here and there. Should work ok in any s4 rom. Gotta hit the hay for tonight, goodnight!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Yeah the stock app does have the pop-up notification. Somehow I missed it under Notification settings. But I'm definitely going to look and see if anyone has some themed/modded apks. Thanks again for the help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Yes I have had the same problem ..usually I end up not using the app Cuz can't figure it out. But I know that sms go works great.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
I'll figure something out later for this. 3rd party apps never seem to work right with mms, that I tried at least. When I get home to my pc tonight I'll do some experiments with modded stock apps and report back. Also blackbeard, does mms work with 3rd party messaging apps for you?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Last night I uninstalled all the 3rd party apps. But, this morning I noticed that the stock app puts Call Back numbers and I can't hide/disable it. Since that'll annoy me worse than MMS not working, I reinstalled 8sms and I got an MMS to come through. I wasn't even testing it, someone just randomly sent me one. Weird that it wouldn't even work on stock before. Hopefully it's fixed and not going to be hit or miss.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
You can still receive mms if your apns messed up, but can't send. Try sending one to a friend or even yourself
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Yeah, can't send. But I wasn't able to receive them on 3rd party apps before this morning. Before I was just getting a message with a url and # that I had to enter to view the MMS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Check any virus apps. If you have any.. I had one one time that didn't allow me to receive mms.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2734851 download the s4 dark mms, i flashed it. its good. dark themed, can disable callback number etc.

and no. use apn backup and restore it again.

follow these instructions for apn backup and restore, make sure you followed it right.

copied from thread, op [MENTION=5397578]goku2778[/MENTION]

Kitkat rom steps:

-after installing the needed apps, open titanium backup and go to backup/restore

-locate the app apn backup and restore, long press on it and choose to install as a system app

-once a system app, exit titanium and go to your root file browser

-navigate to: system>app and locate the apn backup and restore apk, long press on it and select move or cut (depending on your browser)

-press back once to return to system folder and navigate now to priv-app folder and paste the apk, exit your browser

-open apn backup and restore and ignore the message stating your device isn't supported

-press the menu key, select to disable ICS check (error message will no longer appear)

-reboot the phone

-once rebooted, open apn backup and restore and

***my input since its we dont have vzw phones for hell of it delete the apns first then restore the one i dropboxed you***

choose restore apns...it should locate the stock apn backups right away, once they're restored you must reboot your phone 1 last time for them to take effect
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
I found that one this morning but I figured it would still have the call back and group messaging doesn't work. Does it allow you to block incoming Call Back #'s or just the outgoing?

Found this on the 8sms website (this is the error that pops up when I try to send MMS)...

"Service not activated on network"

This is a general error message that can be transmitted from the network to 8sms, and can be caused by several factors. Known causes of this error message include:

The message is too large to be sent. See "MMS message size too large" above.

The mobile network is not accepting the user agent or user agent profile url value used by 8sms. Please see "User agent and user agent profile (uaprof) url" above.

Since this is a general error message, it can also appear for other reasons.​

Anyone know if Bluegrass requires specific user agent info?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Download the s4 one group messages work. Go in settings in the app. S5 app doesn't work properly. Retry the apn thing, and flash the s4 dark international mms app. Backup in Ss if you want, so if you don't like it you can just restore back to system pre flash. I'm using it right now, seems to work ok. Remember to delete apns before restoration.. Idk why else it would not work. Works perfectly same process for me

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Though you could try backup hyperdrive, restore stock and backup apn on yours. Though since we both have bluegrass Idk why it would matter as it's just access point info, rest is in your sim card. Try everything again first and flash the message app
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Like the dark theme but the S4 version doesn't have the pop-up quick reply and the S5 still has Call Back #'s for incoming text.

Didn't even do the APN restore again but those versions work just fine for MMS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Try the s4 app combined with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chf.vn.smspopuplauncher and tomorrow after work I'll try to find another outside of the VZW forum and my theme/dev buddy about quick reply and stuff. I'll let you know
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Today I tried 3rd party apps on a stock unrooted HTC One M8. Wouldn't work. First, 8sms complained about the APN not being set. So, I went and set the MMSC to http://m.iot1.com/bluegrass/mms.php and then it would say "Service not activated on network" when you tried to send MMS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
What carrier was the m8, bluegrass ? And that's because inputting the apn like that isn't enough. Have to restore to the system. It will say service not activated on 3rd party apps and other aosp mms mods I've tried. It's because the apn info isn't fully there to function from. That's why it needs apn backup and restore to do it :/ also if you still have that m8 would you care telling me the model number? Want to research
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
It's also on Bluegrass. Under Settings > About, the model is just HTC One_M8. But it's completely stock/untouched. It should already have its APNs, shouldn't it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
completely stock yea. mms work on stock messaging app? i've noticed with bluegrass at least the 3rd party msg apps across all phones dont seem to work properly, like if i install one right now for me it prob wont work. unless you mess with the apn settings on the messaging app you are using and have it not use custom, like auto detect apn or whatever
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
All stock apps work fine. Is there anything else I'm supposed to change in the MMS settings other than adding Bluegrass' MMSC?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
i just tried 8sms. it didnt work for me on auto detect or manual input. its based on cyanogenmod/aosp. there was a aosp mms app in hyperdrive up until a few releases ago. my mms didnt work on it either. dont know if its a coincidence or just clash with our firmware. that might be why. i can only get stock mms to work. though i dont know why, must be something odd with bluegrasses apn, not sure.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Finally got it working on 8sms. No thanks to Bluegrass though. They refuse to give out their settings. I was able to get them using the Shark for Root app.

MMSC: http://m.iot1.com/bluegrass/mms.php

Proxy: Leave Blank

Port: Leave Blank

User agent: sam_i545l (using app default settings will also work)

User agent profile url: http://mms.iot1.com/uaprofs/sam_i545l.xml (using app default settings will also work)

User agent profile tag: x-wap-profile

Extra http headers: X-MDN: ##LINE1##

The only problem right now is that the 3rd party apps don't allow you to set an X-MDN. I've been working with Beng at 8sms and he compiled a version with my X-MDN already set and it works. I haven't heard back from him since testing it, so I don't know what his plans are for adding this in future updates.

Below is the tcpdump from Shark for Root...

POST /bluegrass/mms.php HTTP/1.1

Accept: */*, application/vnd.wap.mms-message, application/vnd.wap.sic

x-wap-profile: http://mms.iot1.com/uaprofs/sam_i545l.xml

X-MDN: ##########

Accept-Language: en-US

Content-Length: 35493

Content-Type: application/vnd.wap.mms-message

Host: m.iot1.com

Connection: Keep-Alive

User-Agent: sam_i545l

Edit/Update...

The update to 8sms should be coming out soon to the Play Store.

If you're using Bluegrass, you will need to add your X-MDN by adding X-MDN: ##LINE1## to the new "Extra http

headers" option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Does any body know what the mms settings are? I'm trying to use the message app evolve and it won't automatically detect the mms settings.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Third party apps won't work until they add the support for the X-MDN setting that Bluegrass requires. 8sms is currently working on it.

Compare your MMS settings from Evolve with the attached screenshot from 8sms. Notice the missing option for Extra http headers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Ok thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
No problem. Sorry it wasn't the answer you were hoping for.

I think it's pretty stupid/insecure the way Bluegrass has their MMS setup, but it is nice that we can do it over WIFI.

Since the X-MDN is just a 10 digit Bluegrass phone number, you can send an MMS using someone else's number. So, if I had your Bluegrass number, I could put it in as my X-MDN and send someone an MMS and they would think that it came from you even though it came from my phone.

I can even use my old Verizon Samsung Fascinate that doesn't have any service to send MMS (since it works over WIFI) and it appears to people that it came from my Bluegrass S4 phone number.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
They always have to be different!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
Since when does bluegrass have mms over wifi?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackbeard10:
Yes I tried that.. it dont work on less you have it over data.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dallas6672:
Works for me on 8sms. Even works on my Fascinate that doesn't have service.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evilryry:
If you disable mobile data it still works?