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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thahackr:
If you actually want to increase the volume to get higher and more clear go to market and type in viper4android and install then search the thread about viper4android on how to use and it really works....if this help please click thank button.:good::laugh:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
The point is for me. It sounds good and has lil bass and fullness to it at the half volume mark. But turn it up pass then and it's terrible and thin. Almost like the software cut the EQ off at that point. As for headphones the volume is sort of low.

The Amazon kindle had good bass and sound on it's stereo speakers though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ketzal:
It's a software algorithm built into the amplifier and speaker controller. Read about it in an article on the Nexus 7 build, possibly Anandtech. Basically, it prevents overloading of the speakers. As the volume goes beyond a certain level it lowers the bass percentage. Hence the tiny sound at high volume. Not the best solution.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lurtis:
I run this on my lg. Its amazing.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Sad, but thank you so much for the explanation. I guess Google will never get it right with speakers on the N7 line, at least not for now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jimmy2u:
Hi

well completely agreed with the above posts mentioned...sound quality is just fine and yes the algorithm designed for music volume and bass configuration helps you to increase the efficiency and durability of the speakers..so its a nice feature and provide the music volume that is sufficient as far considered...

So no issues with the speaker volume

Thanks !!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
u have 4viper mod on the nexus 7 FHD 2013? i have it on my nexus4 phone and it only works with google play music and musiXmatch apps

to me it doesn't really make the sound louder, it makes it better quality tho but im not an audiophile, i just care more bout 'loudness' as i don't use headphones much
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] bsw11:
When you install it, it asks to update the driver and it fails for me. I only tried the first 2 choices. What is the correct choice? This is for viper4. Downloaded the 4.3 version. I am running Pac Rom with elemental 1.5.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I used something on my last gen Nex 7 to bring up base and make it lost and it ended up blowing the speaker.

I think the 2013 is a huge improvement over the last gen. I mean we have stereo now and it sounds clean and sharp.

If you need rely good audio with this device then I would suggest headphones. They much better for gaming anyhow.

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
So you have no static/hissing sounds on yours?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Nope, no problems at all.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
Lucky!

I thought it was a common problem on all the 2013 N7's, my unit is pretty good but has a static/hissing sound when at low-mid volume.

Still not sure whether to take it back over that as I may end up with more issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
If you figure how many of these things they sold just because a hundred or so people say it is common doesn't mean squat. I have really tried everything to reproduce that and I have had other people listen to see if they could hear anything and there is nothing at all.

I bet most people that do not have the issue just do not post about it. I mean nobody is going to start a thread saying they do not have the issue. lol Maybe I should start one? I will title it:

My 2013 Nexus 7 does not have static or hissing:laugh:

I am lucky? If you met my ex wife you would not say that. hehe
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] oTeMpLo:
You just don't hear it ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zhangzhexx:
I got the hissing sound when at the lowerst 2 level volume
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hyperspacey:
It's definitely a pretty much universal issue, and even devices like the Nexus 4 suffer from it- play back quiet audio with the volume set to 1 or 2 and stick your ear next to the speaker and you can totally hear it. It's just much more noticeable on the Nexus 7 because it uses a more powerful power-amp to drive the speakers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
As I said, I have had others listen and nobody hears anything. It is not universal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
Let's try this test.

Can you record it and post an audio of it?

Just listen to anything from YouTube and then step by step put the volume down.

You can start from e.g. level 5 and go down.

Post it here.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I don't have time that crap. You guys are basically calling me a liar and I really do not appreciate it.

It is kind of stupid to think that a common problem means a device wide problem. I don't care who believes me! There is not static coming from my device. I am not going to argue about it anymore but hopefully others will come on here and day they don't have the issue either. The problem with that most without speaker issues are not reading posts about speaker issues. I read it because I read all the threads here pretty much for my devices.

what ever..
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hyperspacey:
Frankly I'm not surprised people aren't noticing it; it's only audible when the speakers are live (so not all the time obviously) and you have the volume cranked down to levels you'd only really use at night in a quiet room.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] khaoskosmos:
I have no speaker issues. The sound generated by my device is good. Though, I do understand that it is a tablet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tl4xda:
I don't hear any static issue either, with or without ViPER4Android mod. I try using different songs, but no problems except the speakers have a hard time producing the mids clearly. I usually use my headphones so it doesn't matter for the most part. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sladflob:
So here's another way of thinking about this hiss issue...

Has even one person who has experienced the hiss managed to exchange their device for one that does not have it? I've seen plenty of posts by people who say that their (multiple) replacement devices also experience the hiss, but as yet failed to see a single person say that they have managed to score a replacement that doesn't have it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] oTeMpLo:
ALL devices have it. Its by design. Some people just don't know for what to listen to.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sladflob:
This is also my belief, and mine definitely has it. But I figure that if even one person who has experienced it (and found it annoying enough to exchange their device) has managed to score a perfect replacement, then it would be possible that it is a defect with *some* devices.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Mine only has a faith hiss on the lowest level. It's something you have to put your ears very close or on the speaker for you to hear.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] khaoskosmos:
Wrong.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Muikkuman:
Post proof if you're going to say it's wrong.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
Is it really that hard to post a video of a device without an issue?

I'm not calling anyone a liar, I just want to hear it with my own ears before going and complaining about it to a reseller.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TC93:
This static sound on my Nexus 7 has become annoyingly bad., at any volume. It was not like this before.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Dude, not everyone has the issue. It has nothing to do with noticing it.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dud3me:
I'm really going to have to disagree with you. I've had many people who think theirs fine, but when you tell then what to listen for, it's there. Not real a deal breaker for me but they shouldn't have cut down on costs on this. :(

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OJ in Compton:
Until someone posts an audio recording that demonstrates their tablet has clean audio at the lowest volume, it does indeed have something to do with noticing it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Oh really? So many can't hear a problem until you teach them how? Ridiculous. How could you or anyone else know if anyone else has this issue?

Sent from my shiny new(bought last Nov), scratch less Nexus 4!

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Nobody needs to prove anything to you. I say again.. Just because a few have posted does not mean there is an issue device wide. For all you know Google corrected this maybe it was just a certain amount.

This is stupid to argue about. Just take our word for it that not everyone has issue.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dud3me:
No it's not stupid at all. If in fact some people really don't have it, others, like me, could sent theirs fixed too. And your delusional if you insist only a few have it. People in other forums are reporting it too and many of them are regular users who stay on stock. How do you explain that there's people who've sent theirs fixed and got a faulty unit back or that units from the later batches like mine have it too?

No one is forcing anyone to post a recording or a video, but it would be really helpful and proof what you and a few others are saying. But it would need to be a good quality recording so there wasn't any other misleading sounds.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Give me a break. They are numerous people who answered to this on Todd these and others dating they have no hissing.

And yes, it is stupid to think you know everyone has it. Yeah, we are all dillusional.. Right

If my device was hissing i would be here complaining about it. What, do you think I am such a Google fan that I would have a problem like that and lie about or that I am a deaf old man?

I was a musician for years and have very good ears for picking out sounds. I know what a hiss is and my device does not have it.

The last guy that put up a recording showing he has no hiss you said was no good. Go figure. Why don't you just take our word for it and move on. You are wrong.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dud3me:
I'm not trying to insult or offend you. I just have a hard time believing it's not an universal issue. It will probably take someone who's had this issue get it fixed or not suffer from it on a replacement to make me believe it isn't universal. So I guess this is kind of pointless. In the recording that one user kindly posted I could clearly hear hissing during the first 5-10 secs, but that could also be from using his/her phone to record it or the song quality. Plus, it's harder to spot it from a song like that rather than a speech etc.

Tbh, I can live with it, no problem, and still think my N7 is a great device. However, I need to know if I could get it fixed or not. Yes, I'm weird like that. And that's the only reason I'm scrutinizing people who claim to have no hiss.

Oh and btw, you're basically claiming this guy is full of **** :
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
I get alot of static noises wen loud. Not sure if its faux app

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Chadneu:
No hissing or low level noises on mine. Running cm nightly on whatever kernel they install, no mods.

Friend's has no hiss or low level noise either, . He's running stock.

Both are 16gb. We tried playing Google music(HQ), MX player video, YouTube(HQ). None of the 9 people in the room could hear any hissing at any volume.

It should hiss given the amp they used but to actually notice it requires a silent room and a keen ear. Given that this is a BUDGET device meant for the general public and not edge cases I don't view this as a drawback.

Also the arguing in this thread is pathetic.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
???

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Chadneu:
Haha thanks. Was jumping between the n4 and n7 forums, got the storages mixed up.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
:p:p;):beer:

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Dude, what ever. Drop it. You've accused me of being a liar enough times. I've let numerous people use my device and nobody cab hear any static or noise at low or other volume.

If this is something where you need to put your ear on the glass or use a stethoscope than it would not seem like much of a problem to me anyways.

I'm pretty happy with the speakers overall for a 7inch tablet under $300. Base could be better but other than that the separation is decent and the sound is clear and concise.

Btw - in in my 40s, not my 80s. My hearing is perfect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] khaoskosmos:
Don't care if you believe me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Muikkuman:
It's not about me believing you. You can't just type "wrong" if you have no info to back it up with.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Relax. He just wants proof because he had replacements with it. And found others who went through it. So maybe a second batch came out with it fixed. He only wants to verify it before he goes through the process again. He don't know you. I don't know you. If you don't want to do it. Fine. Just say so and move on. If he decided to take the risk again its on him.

He just want to know if its worth the fight and wants to hear it his self. Anyway. Good luck y'all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] khaoskosmos:
I thought I did...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jwong.hhf:
encounter the same problem and luckily I don't use low volume most of the time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] slowdyve:
Just bought n7 16gb 2 days ago and it was the 1st thing i noticed.

After configuring everything i opened a youtube video, not a music video, but just a guy talking and took me 1 second to hear static/hissing sounds.

Today I went to 2 different stores (both quiet) and also noticed this problem.

And after reading sooooo many people complaining i realized it wasn't me who had bad luck...

Also it's on XDA FAQS Massive Question sticky!!! :p

99% of the time i use headphones.

But if i need to go somewhere and find out there's a quiet store with n7 exposed i might go in and test.

But only if i have the time or if i'm not hungry :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hasenbein1966:
My device:

- Production date September

- Absolutely no hiss at any volume

- Loudness not "very loud" like some people report, but just significantly louder than old N7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
Can you please record your device with a good Mic, but probably any phone will work and post the video somewhere? For the test, just use any YouTube video with only voice in it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hasenbein1966:
Why should I?? What should be shown by the video??
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
To have proof their is a 2013 Nexus 7 out there without the reported low volume static/hiss issue.

Maybe the Sept 13 & onward models have indeed fixed the issue, would be nice to find out.

Seems many people have gone through multiple replacements & still get one that has it.

Fair enough if you don't want to, vbaros was only asking.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
People just want to know if there device really is defective with the hiss they hear at a low level of volume. If they can hear with their own ears a device that has no low level volume hiss then is worth the fight for some to get a device without any. Me personally I do have a little hiss but it's impossible to hear unless I really try to hear it. In 100% of my real life use I never hear it. I look at it as similar to the n4 camera auto focus rattle in that some hear it some don't and in the end you have to force yourself to hear it anyways. I also believe it's part of the way the speakers work as it was explained well by what sounded to be a very knowledgeable xdaer earlier in this thread. I just think some devices its literally impossible to hear and is very noticeable in others. I've had 2 n7 2013s and the one I sent back to Google for another issue had a much more noticeable hiss. My n7 I have now I have to really really really try to hear it. Cheers :beer:

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
If you are still willing to do record it here is a good example of how it sounds like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9aQnuOrTY8

If you do it please start from higher level and go down to lever 1 when you record it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
You guys are ridiculous. How many people posted and said they have no problem and yet you still persist. Don't you think of it was a device wide issue this thread would have thousands of complaints. It is really obvious but you just think everyone is deaf or a liar. Asking for proof. Right.

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Agreed,

If you have to hold your ear against the device or something to hear it then is it even an issue?

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It is pretty rude though when numerous people report having no hiss and then a certain few obsessed individuals keep asking for proof. Like we are lying or deaf.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
Some of us are annoyed by the defect.

For me the reason is that I like to listen to e.g. a YouTube speech late at night when everyone else is sleeping. I can hear really well then, so I put the volume down to level one and still here it perfectly. With the defect I can hear a mix of a voice and annoying hissing which doesn't happen on any other device I own.

In my ears this is the defect and what I would like to know is if they fixed the problem by changing the responsible hardware part in more recent devices.

Is that a good enough answer for you?

Does a word please mean anything to you?

Please stop putting words into our mouths and let someone who is really willing to post a audio/video of a device with no defect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Pfeffernuss:
Tried it on three devices, all hiss like a maniac :good:

That is: if you keep your ear on it. While listening in a "normal" environment and using a "normal" volume one will not notice it/be bothered by it. I do agree with your assumption that (almost) all Nexus 7 tabs will have this issue but that most people simply don't hear it.

Same thing as *all* plasma televisions have retention, yet numerous people claim they don't. Well they do, they simply don't see it :angel:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dud3me:
Would be great if you could. We'd know whether it was fixable or not. I think your best bet would be to record a speech from YouTube etc. playing on low volumes. Hope you can help!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
I'll do one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Here's my video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unhQc2KGKw

Hope it helps. :/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
Thank you so much.

You can clearly hear it somewhere from 1:30. It was a little bit difficult to hear it because of the background noise but you can hear it nevertheless.

Thumbs up for 3310 :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] slowdyve:
Yesterday I decided to go to mall were I knew there were at least 4 stores with devices to test. It's not easy to do the test in public places but it was rather quiet since it was sunday night. Both me and my girlfriend cleary ear on all 4 the hissing sound. All are from September like mine. So counting with the previous visit to a store all six I tested, including mine have that problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Pfeffernuss:
No, you are. For defending an issue that clearly all devices have.

Not hearing it and not having it are two completely separate things.

Indeed, apparently there is simply something wrong with your ears. No biggie, just stop claiming there is no audio issue. There clearly is.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
No problem. I can do another one in a better area if you want. There was a hiccup in the video when I rotated the screen. So it may have been that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vbaros:
No, you don't have to. I can recognize it from space now :)

You could hear the distinctive hissing from your video.

I wonder, can you hear it also or this has something to do with how our ears are different regarding the hearing range. Some people just have different upper frequency limit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearing_range
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea I heard it to in his video. I'm starting to think it is that some people either can't hear the hiss cause of the frequency also. I've tested now 8 n7s and they all have it. I've yet to hear a n7 2013 without this hiss. I also think some people (not the guy who made the video) just refuse to hear it.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
What's funny is that I only herd the hiss in the video. Playing on aagain on my n7 I didn't hear it. Might have been the mic on my X.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Ah so your n7 only has a magic hiss that can only be heard on a recording. Interesting :what:

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Lol. Sort of. Just listen the video all the way through. It never stopped.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] unni_kmr:
Does anybody have a problem with speaker crackling? Mine is 2 months old. When I play songs/podcasts at full volume, I can hear the speaker crackling (similar to how headphones sound after using for a very long time). Right now, its not that bad. But I am worried if it will get worse.

Anybody knows if I can confirm if there is a problem, by means of some test sound file or app?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DowntownJeffBrown:
No... but that happened on my Gnex and it did get worse over time till my speaker popped and wouldn't work. Don't know if this is the same type of thing but when I saw your post it made me think of that.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
new music player app DFX player pro works good with faux sound app!

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fcng:
Speakers with Portenzo case

It is definitely better then N7 G1 in terms of volume as there are two speakers. I have my N7 GII with a Portenzo case so the sound gets amplified (special sound channels that directs the sound out). There is no bass in the sound but quite clear. Of course, if you are using Poweramp or other players that allow you to use an equalizer then the treble can be tuned. I would only use the speakers for casual listening if I'm taking a dump or at work during lunch. Everything else, separate headphones is the solution to sound quality, bass, etc.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ram130:
Good stuff. I agree that the first generation was worse but it actually had two speakers but they were so close together you hardly notice unless you put your head between them. So only then would you have noticed a slight stereo sound from it. But I can live with this. And as you said while "taking a dump" :D.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] unni_kmr:
Thanks. I have requested for an RMA. Will sent to Asus tomorrow. Hopefully, they will fix it.

This crackling sound becomes audible only when I play a speech only audio. With music, I guess it gets drowned.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
I get crackling sound speakers 30 it's starting to annoy the hell out of me

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sl8125:
I love the stereo speaker. I bought the iPad air foolng myself that I will like the iOS but really got me was the bottom firing speakers. My speakers on the n7 is fine by me. I use n7 speaker for listening sorts radio. I don't think I will use it music per say. Maybe YouTube and other videos I might be watching. Not a movie on the tracker guy. Just little streaming of live sports games. For these type of needs for me speakers are good to go.
[HTC One X] viizx:
Hy, I have some problems on my phone and I need to take it back to the service. Can someone help me with finding my RUU?

version-main: 3.20.401.3

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