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[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Nightly and Tailor Video

It was around 25GB for my 32GB model:D

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[ROM] [NIGHTLY] [JB] [4.3] CyanogenMod 10.2 nightlieshttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2450358http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2450358By Milaq

Notes: Low battery drain (-4mA to -10mA) h/w video, Nightly Builds, audio plays with the screen off, Pie Controls, Inverted Volume Controls, Camera doesn't fully work, No Bluetooth.

Note(Important): It is recommended to increase the size of your partition from 400-500MB using Tailor or Flash this .zip file through recovery to change the partition size to 512MB(Gradular&codycoyote). You can also use the light 4.3 gapps

Note:If wifi turns off in suspend/Sleep mode - uncheck wifi optimisation.

-Settings/Wi-Fi/3 Dots/Advanced/Wi-fI optimization (uncheck)

Note(Important): This build also requests that you use a new data media CWM that requires you to change the layout of your partitions. Previously Android and WebOS shared SDcard space in the Media partition (the space you see when transferring data via the USB cable). This build separates the Android and WebOS space by asking you to move free space from the Media partition to the Android Data partition(the place where apps are stored). This new layout will show two SDcards when accessing the tablet from the PC, one for Android and one for WebOS. To make this change you can use either Tailor or a flashable .zip created by XDA member the_ape.

Downloads:

Data Media CWM 6.0.3.6

The_apes Flashable zips

Note: Make sure you have enough free space before flashing one of these zips. There are two types of .zips in a variety of different sizes. one that changes just the Data/Media partition and another that changes both the System and Data/Media partitions. Be sure to choose a zip that best accommodates your TP model 16or32GB.

Note: Once you've made these changes you'll need to use Tailor if you wish to change them back.

Note(Important): The Evervolv AOSP Android 4.3.1 Rom doesn't need these changes and is recommended for all users especially those who are new or inexperienced. This setup should only be done by experienced users!
[TouchPad Development] pqee:
I tried the 9/21 nightly without resizing the system partition and it hangs at the CM boot logo spinning endlessly. Even tried without any GAPPS so it shouldn't be a size issue and still get stuck on the boot screen.

Happens from a clean install and a dirty flas from Evervolv 3.3.0.

Anyone else get 9/21 working or have any idea why it wouldn't? I realize I didn't resize my partitions but without gapps shouldn't that leave lots of free space and have it at least finish booting?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Is there a way to increase the data partition from 1.5 gig to like 3 gig, so we can add more apps.

I wonder if we can use similar method of how we change system partition from 400 to 500 by taking 100 Mb out of USB?

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I had similar issues in which it kept spinning. I killed the boot process and restarted, and it went through boot process.
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
I had this problem when I went from a previous Evervolv ROM to 10.1. What I found was that the Evervolv option was still on the MOBOOT menu and it was the default. CM was on the menu and if I selected it, it would boot to CM. I eventually did an uninstall . But after I did that, there was a post telling how to fix the UI in the boot image. I can't find that post but it was not that long ago in the CM 10.1 thread.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
You can remove evervolv boot file from boot partition, and it would fix the mboot entries.
[TouchPad Development] pqee:
That's exactly what it was. I wasn't paying attention when the moboot screen came up. I've never had a problem with having multiple roms listed. Manually chose CM and it booted fine. Thanks for the help!
[TouchPad Development] Mchasard:
HI,

Thanks for the last video about tailor cause i had some doubt about the way to proceed ... if i flash your last nighfly build , how to remove the evervold line on moboot menu ?
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
Did I mess something up with storage?

I just installed 10.2 and Datamedia, am having an issue with storage, and hoping there's an easy way to fix it...

1) There seem to be multiple SDcard spaces, as for example, Goomanager downloads to /storage/sdcard0/goomanager/ forcing me to copy paste into the /storage/sdcard1/ aka /scard/ goomanager directory.

2) My apps are installing to Internal Storage, which has 1.48 GB total space, and now only 412 MB available.

How I installed:

Backed up

Installed CWM6 and Moboot .38 (I'd been using TWRP 2.1.1 for a really long time with CM 9...)

"Tailor"ed

3.5 GB USB because WebOS's and other apps were installed there along with other things, and I couldn't shrink it much further

25 GB data, 800 MB System (more future proof?), 200 MB cache, I guess 400 MB media, I don't remember

Reinstalled with ACMEUninstaller, then ACMEInstaller3, with the CM ROM, Gapps, Moboot and CWM in there as well. I thought I'd put Datamedia in at that time, but I hadn't.

Got infinite loop, so went to CWM and installed the ROM from there, which worked

Installed the Datamedia file

Upgraded to the 0922 ROM

So now most everything is working, but again,

1) there are 2 sdcard disk entries, and the primary one for some apps is different than that from others. /storage/sdcard0/ (the 'primary' sdcard for goomanager to download things to, and the "usb media"), and /storage/sdcard1/ which seems to be the same space as /sdcard/

2) my app install space seems way too limited. Do I just have to transfer apps to sdcard? Or is there something I can do to make sdcard transfer unnecessary?

Thanks so very much for the ROM! And thanks in advance for any guidance on these issues.
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
To everyone having issues about data space:

In Tailor, you need to resize your "USB (media)" to the smallest you can get it. Delete all media files( music,video,pictures) and downloaded files (pdfs, flash zips, etc.). I highly suggest using a computer to transfer as much as you can off. Do not delete or move the .palm folder!!! That is where the webos apps are stored. Use Tailor to resize the USB(media) partition as small as possible. You may have to have it check the partition several times and it may take awhile to complete before you can resize. You can only shrink it to what the line "file system used" is. Then resize the "Android (data)" partition to include all the unused space. Tailor will tell you if you type a size too big, so just decrease it until you stop getting that message. After you get the new ROM installed, copy most of the directories from the external sdcard (sdcard2) to the internal card (sdcard0 or sdcard1). Leave at least the .palm and downloads folder as well as any other files you might want to use in webos on the external card. Hope this helps people understand more fully what needs to be done.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
That makes sense, but can you increase the size of 1.5 gig android data partition where applications are stored? If you can, can you use Tailor to do that to like 2 or 3 gig?
[TouchPad Development] copene:
I'm with you man. I don't know why they switched all this sdcard stuff around when it was just fine the way it was. Things are all over the place, no matter what I do I can't get any of my notification sounds to register. I'm back to 4.2.2 8/8, there really is no reason to upgrade anyway.
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
if you increase the android (data) partition to take up the unused space, it should be way over 3 gigs. Even on a 16 gig TP.

The datamedia storage solution is the way Andriod has been for awhile on most devices. TPs are just behind in doing this since we aren't official.

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Still having issues making a new working flashable zip...

But using the 425 system script on rootzwiki thread, you will have enough room for the rom and official gapps. Together they take up about 410 megs.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Thanks. Will try that out later on today.
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
Good explanation here regarding datamedia partitioning, esp this quote:

"There are a couple of nice gains with using this setup vs the old data +*FAT*storage partition.* With /data/media you, as the user get more control over how you use your storage. If you have a ton of apps, then that's no problem since you have a huge data partition to work with. If you don't have a lot of apps, you get more room to use for storing things like movies. Further, ext4 doesn't suffer from the 4GB*file size limit that FAT*has, so you can have a large, high-def movie on your device if you like. I'm sure another motivating factor was to get Android away from using FAT*which is a Microsoft creation. Performance on ext4 in Android is also probably better than FAT. As a downside, data media devices tend to store a lot more app data in the "data" section and so backups on these devices tend to be larger"

Well, it helped me understand a lot better whats going on under the hood ;)

Peace
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
good find. link included in op
[TouchPad Development] garux:
Since /data/media is part of /data, we pretty much never actually format the data partition. Formatting data, of course, also removes the media folder that contains the internal sdcard. When you choose a factory reset, instead of formatting, we use rm -rf commands to remove all the folders except for the media folder so that we can remove all of your apps and settings while leaving your "sdcard" intact. In TWRP we also have a wipe internal storage option that rm -rf's the media folder and a "Format Data" option that formats to recreate the entire file system in case something goes completely wrong or to remove device encryption.

I've read the above in the op, it talks about how TWRP handles datamedia.

1. My question, is will we still be safe using CWM for our Recovery?

2. Can data media be implemented in 4.2.2 and if so, how?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Your's is the first reasonable explanation why all this hocus pocus with resizing partitions and using the data media CWM is going on. But aren't we rather late in the game to be changing the way it's been done on the TouchPad since the beginning? Evervolv didn't seem to see the necessity for there 4.3. If you are in the know, what exactly is the benefit of doing it this different way? It is obviously creating confusion for the less than technically inclined trying to use Tailor to change partition sizes. Thanks for your efforts to create a flashable zip that one can use instead of Tailor. My personal preference it the old way and if I ever decide to go past CM10.1 it will be Evervolv or some other Rom that does not require all this rigmarole to install it.

Just thought of one other thing, what effect does this have on one using J.C. Sullin's internal memory fix that has been so popular all this time? And what does this do to WebOS's access to the USB drive that gets shrunk from GB's in size down to a few MB's in size?
[TouchPad Development] ericdabbs:
I dont see the problem with the USB drive since i was able to get the USB drive space down to 115 MB. I just set the usb drive to be 300 mb size and moved the rest of the space to android(data). U just have to do some housekeeping to move most of the android related folders to the "internal storage". It was easy peasy.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
I was able to add the system partition from 400 Mb to 600 Mb using Tailor, but was not able to add more space for the /data partition which is set at 1.5 Gb. I think that's limiting since I have installed few apps, and I am at 1.2 Gig, and can't add big app like Chrome without it is complaining about the lack of space unless I blow the entire partition and recreate the /data using Tailor?

Also one good question if I do factor reset or format /data, do I loose all my saved stuff on old SDCard? It can't because it appears to be different mounting points for /data and user data.
[TouchPad Development] sunscape:
I just deleted and re-added the partitions after backing up some files. After you remove everything, shrinking the partition to 400mb is simple enough.
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
I haven't used the new CWM recovery. So if I install the new CWM recovery that is provided in the OP, all my stuff on my internal storage and everything else will work itself out and be put in the right place the next time I flash a ROM? I already changed the android partition to 500 MB
[TouchPad Development] ericdabbs:
Is the microphone working for Google Now? I couldn't get it to work.

Edit: I rebooted my touchpad and Google Now works.
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
Milaq I will happily donate again to you for your dedication to keeping our hardware running. Thank you again.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Please read the thread. You can get to 4.3 without re partitions as long as you delete media file in system or use skinny gapps and it works. You just have to flash new recovery before you install 4.3.

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Any quick way to get back to webos if you don't have installed cyboot? I am on 4.3 android, and want to mess with my data partition by deleting and adding again. I can get to webos by long method of repairing.
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
rob_z11, thanks dude.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
OK boss. Good luck.

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Anyone knows how to boot into webos f you don't have cyboot installed?
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
Hmm.. would you please tell me how you moved all those folders to IS, with making programs recognize that they were on IS? Honestly, the only program that really seems to be a problem is Goomanager, but I haven't really done much so far, so don't know...

Also... are all of your apps installing to "internal storage"? My bigger concern is that I'm running out of IS space, while my "sdcard" has 25 GB space empty and free according to settings. Do I just ignore this as it won't be a problem? Or something I need to do now to fix it?

Brimming with questions :)

Thanks in advance for answers
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Don't understand your question exactly. Are you trying to change the default OS on the Moboot screen to WebOS?
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
If you read back you'll find I've anwsered this as well as others...
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
How do I boot into webos if I don't have cyboot installed? Only way to get back into webos to run webos repair tool from PC?
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
Why can't you get into webOS in moboot?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
That option is not available on moboot choices.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
migrating to newer standards is recommended and needed.

in the thread you mentioned most users who participated in the poll agreed with the fact that the emulated sdcard's pros outweigh the cons.

regarding the "less technically adept" i often gladly cite a retired senior mod:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

it's not that i don't accept those kind of users. it's rather like that i tend to focus on the stability, speed, younameit of the rom itself, not the process of getting it to install correctly - it is definately taken into consideration but really not the first point on the list. if the change in the install process is easy to accomplish without influencing the usability, i will walk that way.

for me, migrating to this newer standard was the next logical step to do for 4.3 - as we need to repartition (system) either way. and it only needs to be done once.

if someone writes a tutorial for discussed process, fine. i will gladly thank the one who does it (a good tutorial with explanations, not a step-by-step tutorial which i am strongly NOT recommend and endorse - get users to UNDERSTAND the process, not duplicate).

i have my hands full with exams, job and RL atm; i would rather like to focus on getting a solid rom together in my little freetime without worrying about additional stuff.

cheers
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
Huge thanks Milaq for his dedication to our tab!

Also big thanks to RolandDeschain79 for the youtube video.

Tailor as Milaq said is easy just needed some guidance & clear instructions and this video makes it super easy, again thanks! I did backup my tab increased system to 600mb for future proofing. Thanks again!
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
I have a few HP TouchPads , 2- running Evervolv 4.2 (on loanb to my mother and niece) and one on Evervolv 4.3 ( my daily driver), and then one with your CM10.2. WHile I consider myself a NOOB I do enjoy trying new things and trying to understand the process. While I am in awe with what the developers do I also believe that they need the NOOBs to test and give feedback on the ROM. Even though they sometime come across as ungrateful, I think it is usually just because they are frustrated that they can not do it correctly. I am a flash addict, and I enjoy trying new things, but I also have come to the conclusion that if it doesn't work that it was my mistake. When I report a bug in the thread, I really find it rewarding when someone verifies the bug or thanks me for reporting it. I had to run Tailor 3 times before I got it right, but now I know how to do it and I also better understand the memory structure of the machine. We can't forget that these ROMS have extended the life and usefulness of our machines that a huge company (HP) abandoned within weeks of shipping,

Anyway keep up the good work, and to all the NOOBS like me out there, learn the new file structure, it won't bite you.
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
Milaq,

Donation sent to you! Keep up the great work and do well in school!

:good::good::good:
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
Maybe you need to re-install Moboot with AcmeInstaller.
[TouchPad Development] sunscape:
Download a zip and attempt to flash through goomanager with twrp installed. This will fail but put you into recovery. Choose to reboot into recovery from recovery, and then reboot to android. For whatever reason this restored my moboot boot options menu.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
That's easy enough.. I will try that sir. I want to get back in HP Touchpad WebOS and blow up my Data partition and recreate which is more than 1.5 Gb. 1.5 Gig is not big enough to keep the apps that I use on daily basis.

Nobody thinks that 1.5Gig is not a big partition to add apps? To me, Data partition is big problem of smaller in size versus System. System was fine with 400 Mb.
[TouchPad Development] Oldpapa49:
This cutting edge scares me..

I wait until the dust settles..
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
One way to get entries back into moboot to get back to HP WebOS

mount -o remount,rw /boot

cd /tmp

curl -O http://moboot.googlecode.com/files/moboot_0.3.5.zip

unzip moboot_0.3.5.zip

mv uImage.moboot_0.3.5 /boot/uImage.moboot

cd /boot

rm uImage

ln -s uImage.moboot uImage

ln -s uImage-2.6.35-palm-tenderloin uImage.webOS

echo "webOS" > moboot.default

sync

reboot
[TouchPad Development] MikeFRG:
On my TP webOS preware is installed but I have not yet found tailor:p what can I do?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
You have to search for an app called Tailor in preware. It is there.
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
I installed Tailor directly from WebOS Quick Install. It seems as though it was recently removed from Preware as it was elevated from Beta or something such.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Got my data partition finally increased from 1.5 gig to close to 4 using Tailor. Key is to delete data partition and add it again, and it would grab all the free space you have created after squeezing main USB space.

No more running out of space when you try to add big apps.
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
CWM/TWRP

I also ran Tailor again, and my partitions were very different than what I'd assigned before upgrading to 10.2, with USB (media) having the overwhelming majority of GBs. I repartitioned my drive, put most into Android (data), so now I have 25 GB Internal Storage, which is awesome.

One question: Is there a way to get CWM to see the new sdcard? Currently I can only select the USB (media) drive in CWM, which is now only 1 GB, so if possible I'd like to download and install updates from the emulated drive.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
If you flash new cwm which op has a link, it would identify your new big partition as sdcard1 or sd-ext.
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
Thanks for the response. I did flash that CWM, and have tried reflashing it as well, and it's still only seeing my USB (media) drive. Any other thoughts?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Mine is showing both sdcard as the one that data magic partition created when you flash 4.3 ROM and sdcard1 as the legacy partition.

4.3 OS only see the small partition which is created when you install it, but you can copy back and forth between two partition and I believe new CWM also sees both. I think new twrp also sees both partition as well.
[TouchPad Development] Fuelance:
Is TWRP 2.6.3.0 safe to use? I read some warnings against it.

And, in CWM, I see the following directories when I select "choose zip from sdcard":

- 0/

- clockworkmod/

- legacy/

- obb/

0/ is the deprecated USB (media) drive, the others are empty folders

Interestingly, I've also tried 'choose zip from eternal sdcard', which loads other folders on my USB (media) drive.

Well, it's manageable, so I don't need it fixed all that badly, but if there's something to do, would be nice.
[TouchPad Development] green2000:
Tailor keep failing system partition check

The guides for using Tailor say to press 'Check Filesystem', but everytime I do, it complains it failed. Yes, the guide says to try again, but how many times do I have to keep doing it before it succeeds? I tried many many times. Both the system and data partitions complain the same. When I try with the media or cache partitions, the check is successful the first time. Is there something wrong with my partitions?

I am currently running CM10.1 using Acme 3 installer.

Thanks.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Milaq, have you or anyone else tested what moving most of the SD card memory to the data partition is going to do to the WebOS side?
[TouchPad Development] frmorrison:
I had to click Check filesystem, then repair filesystem about ten times. After the program finished checking, my old CM10.1 wouldn't boot but I didn't care because then I flashed CWM, then wiped data, then flashed CM10.2 and it worked fine.
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
Sounds like you done a lot of dirty flashes. You might have to deletethe partition and then recreate it with the modified size.
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
I'm curious about this as well. I just flashed the new CWM Recovery and my default storage location is in data/media as it should be. But all my stuff I had on there to begin with it still in sdcard1 in the storage folder. So I'm curious if I just move everything over to data/media/. And if so, do I move the palm files too or leave them where they are? I know a lot of people dont really care what happens to webOS, but I do.
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
WebOS will continue using the USB media partiton. It will always ignore the data or data/media partition (not even sure if WebOS can read/write EXT4).
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
I believe palm files stay where they are, no? Otherwise could damage webos?

Cheers
[TouchPad Development] zondajag:
Surely this thread needs the unofficial identifier in the title? Since its not an official CM nightly and you cant install updates using cmupdater? Also people have mentioned that the kernel needs to be updated to make the most of new Android features...who can do this exactly? Is it even possible considering the resources that are available?