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[Android General] ruben__:
If that is the current general pricing, Halfords deal seems actually rather fair. The AR4 has the missing usb-playback functionality AR3 has not but if you are going to use ARU(R) as your main source for everything, that isn't an issue at all. As far as the interface functionality goes, it's probably more or less the same, maybe AR4 has support for more apps nobody really uses, maybe another gimmick that will only work in a specific region and of course dedicated support for the unspeakable phone, lol.

I'm currently on my phone and my browser is acting pretty weird but if you can search for 'arur appradio 3' in youtube, you'll see a quick demo video which I uploaded 2 weeks ago. Maybe you'll get a better idea of what to expect from the screen and HU when used in conjunction with ARUR.
[Android General] spark001uk:
Right ok cool I'll check that out later. Yes USB playback wouldn't bother me, as I tend to use a USB stick for my audio, or anything off my phone I would play over a2dp.

As for aru I have a nexus 6 which doesn't have mhl, but I plan to use a chromecast instead, there's a vid on YouTube of someone doing it so I'm assuming it'll work.
[Android General] quad_galaxys4:
appradio one full mirroring

Hi, i have searched everywhere for a way to enable full mirroring on appradioone head units. Even the appradio unchained will not work as you said.

Is there any development going on to let appradio one headunits support full mirroring? It should be technically possible as appradio live already works and it mirrors the display of the phone. I do not have the technical skills to do this but i would love to help anyone who would like to give this a shot. It will help a lot of people like me. I want navigation on my headunit but appradiolive just provides a simple map overlaid with the route, and the navi option says no compatible apps installed (although i had installed waze as well in the hope that it might work). or atleast if gmaps or waze could be ported to appradio one by the guys at xda will be awesome. Already there is request for waze support in appradio one feature request but i do not know if they will ever respond. so i am taking matters into my own hands. Is there any way I could add support myself to the app? I am not a hardcore coder but get by on regular basis.

Any help is much appreciated.

P.S. Admin, if this needs to be a new thread, plz create one or let me know and i ll create one.

Thanks
[Android General] ruben__:
Great! By the way before you are on your buying spree, do some proper research before buying any 'cast-like system'. I have a friend who had some trouble setting it up switched to another type like cast thingy and it worked. Sorry to be so vague but I can't recall what kind of system he used for the wireless connection.

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Uuhm, I'm sorry bro, what is going on with your device and Appradio? What model AR do you have?

Most of us, probably close to everybody here are actually mirroring their device / screen / phone on the AR via ARU or ARUR. Are you sure you've got the right cables and or adapter for your specific device?
[Android General] hghflyrjd1:
I downloaded this one and when it all connects it says LISTENING FOR CONNECTION?
[Android General] spark001uk:
Ah, hold on a sec, I think it's just dawned on me what you said earlier. Are you saying the unit itself doesn't allow playing music off a USB stick? And there's no way around that?
[Android General] vjdave:
ARUR with AVIC-8100nex and Samsung Galaxy S5

Hello.

I have the AVIC-8100nex HU and the Samsung Galaxy S5. The S5 has lollipop and has been rooted. I used SuperSU to root. I have purchased ARUR. I have the USB (Mirrorlink) cable.

I have searched the thread and cannot find someone with a Samsung Galaxy S5 with lollipop and a AVIC-8000 or AVIC-8100 who has been successful with getting Mirrorlink to work.

I have the official Samsung MHL/HDMI adapter as well.

Can someone please explain to me exactly what I need to do to get the Samsung Galaxy S5 (rooted with lollipop) to work with ARUR?

Thank You!
[Android General] metalcated:
Just checking to see if I should be doing something else? .24 does not work but .23 works just fine.

AVH-4000 NEX.

HTC One M8 - Google Play Edition

Android 5.0.1 Lollipop rooted
[Android General] 400ixl:
You have to use MHL / HDMI, Mirrorlink does not work with ARU.

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If you are using ARU then as well as Root and SuperSU, you will also need to get SELinux in permissive mode for the touch to work.

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AppRadio One as in the original head unit? If so, it never supported Android and was an iPhone only, so it won't work and haven't seen anyone trying to get it to as it is a dead platform and only a very small user base.

If you actually meant a different Head Unit, which one?
[Android General] Area51©:
There's a user's manual available here: AppRadio Unchained Reloaded User's Guide

This link is also in the Play store description.
[Android General] quad_galaxys4:
Actually the new 2015 DVD units of Pioneer (x2700,x3700...) come with Appradio One. It uses USB cable to work unlike mHL/HDMI. It still uses the Appradio app in the phone but only the following apps are mirrored ( I think it piggybacks on mirrorlink protocol perhaps but I am not sure. i have a S4 and its not mirrorlink compatible yet it works.):

Photos, Contacts, Calendar, Appradio Live.

In Appradio Live Navi apps are not supported. So I was wondering if these apps are being mirrored then it should be technically possible to mirror the entire screen as well just like Appradio unchained. Or make one of the compatible apps of Appradio port to appradio one.

Thanks

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I have a S4 and a x4700bs pioneer head unit. In the 2015 DVD unit line up they have added a feature called AppradioOne which uses just the USB cable to work with Appradio app. But it only works with Appradio Live, Photos, Contacts, Calendar. No other apps work. But it does mirror the screen for the apps mentioned.

So i was wondering if the appradio app can be modified to mirror the screen on these units as well.

Thanks
[Android General] esmenikmatixx:
As others have said, you need the mhl/HDMI connection for mirroring. But also, with the 8100, you can now do Android Auto thru just the USB cable. The app just released last week.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead
[Android General] bigmikelca:
I have the same questions/issues. I have a s3, s4, and Pioneer avh x3700 bhs. The way Pioneer markets app radio one is confusing/misleading. The appradiolive app is pretty useless
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
I was going to order this for my Note 3 and AP2 you are saying this would provide a faster charge while connected to the mhl adapter?
[Android General] spark001uk:
OK I went for a da120 in the end. Just testing out appradio before I go down the arur road, however it doesn't seem quite right to me. I've installed appradio and carkeyboard like it asks. I then cast the screen to the chromecast (as you know I've got a nexus 6 which isn't mhl), then I run appradio, go thru the setup, and everything seems reasonably OK, the couple of ar apps I installed run and fill the screen well, and touch works, but the app icons show up very small and in the top left corner of the screen. What could be causing that?
[Android General] esmenikmatixx:
I use an mhl cable, its an HDMI with a separate standard USB plug, then mhl on the other end. I plug the USB end into a 3.1amp USB cig socket adapter, instead of using the 1 amp USB port on the radio. With my S5, using the 1 amp on the radio would still drain my battery. With the 3.1 amp, it charges. Its still a slow charge, but at least its not draining. See if I can find some links...

Micro USB to HDMI Cable, Rankie® 6.5 feet MHL Micro USB to HDMI 108... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MY05GNA/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Gzdfvb076BZEV

And the charger is something like this, I got mine at best buy cheap cause I work there..

Rocketfish Mobile Car Charger (Rf-m657d) by ROCKETFISH http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007PUU0DA/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_bBdfvb0BG3839
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
So I wouldn't be able to connect the official pioneer mhl adapter to a usb charger like the one you posted instead of connecting it back to the radio's usb? I hope I'm understanding you correctly lol
[Android General] 400ixl:
The official Pioneer MHL adapter does not work with the Note 3 anyway. You need the specific Samsung one.
[Android General] ruben__:
I'm sorry, was quite busy yesterday but you bought the AR4, that's great! How do you like it so far? I'm not quite sure why it behaves like that. Is it possible to resize the icons or screen within the Nexus or maybe another launcher?

I can't imagine you would have the same issues when you run aru or arur but then again, I'm not quite sure if chromecast would require some other stuff to make it work? I'll ask my friend to be sure.
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
Mine does I've been using it for a while now along with the Samsung 5 to 11 adapter. The only problem I have have is losing battery charge.
[Android General] 400ixl:
Unfortunately not, unless Area51 see's that there is actually enough benefit in him ploughing lots of hours into looking at it. It works completely differently.

Basically, if you want full screen mirroring for all apps on a Pioneer HU then you need ARU/ARUR which only works on the devices that run through the HDMI connection. Mirrorlink devices will not support this.

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You need a 1A plus power source which is more than the HU can deliver.
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
So again do you think I could just plug into the cigarette adapter you provided instead of the radio and increase the charge?
[Android General] Area51©:
Also I am wondering how responsive a MirrorLink like connection is. If you look at this video Pioneer AppRadio 3 whit Samsung DriveLink Full Mirroring , it seems very laggy. A few guys said already they would make a video of the AppRadio One connection but I have not seen one yet. Not only is it a lot of work but if the result is laggy nobody is going to use it anyway.
[Android General] quad_galaxys4:
It certainly is not like mirroring your phone but it still works well. I will put a video soon when i get back from work. I realise its a lot of work, but i was wondering if not full mirroring atleast few navi apps could be ported to work with it. Unfortunately for a lot of ppl like we r stuck with a maps app which just overlays the route bt doesnt give navigation.

I will put the video and then if u have time please do look at it and let me know if its worth investing time in.

Thanks
[Android General] Area51©:
I think they changed the Pioneer SDK that apps use to integrate with the Pioneer AppRadio app. This was commented by Pioneer support in this Youtube video: Pioneer: AVH-X2700BT, AVH-X3700DAB, AVH-X5700DAB How to connect Android for AppRadio mode via USB

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Hey, currently the engineers are still putting together the compatibility, so we cant confirm.

seeing as the connection method doesn't require any additional cables, apart from the USB data cable, it would definitely be worth a try.

Connection is simple, download the 'AppRadio' app and the 'AppRadioLIVE' app from the Play store, install them, log in to them etc on the phone first. Check the unit connection settings as in the video, and plug the phone in.

If you struggle to find the apps via the Play store, check the Google play website on a PC, you can log in, and send the install to the phone manually.

Let us know how you get on.

Currently we are waiting for the app developers to catch up with the new AppRadio Mode technology, so at the moment none of the navigation apps are compatible.The maping within AppRadioLIVE will let you input and search for an address but currently wont offer turn by turn navigation.. We are hoping that Waze and Navfree will be updated sometime soon, once they have updated, you'll be able to use turn by turn navigation on the unit.

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Also not that much phones seem to be supported:

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We are waiting for a full list of compatible devices to come from our development engineers, however currently, the compatible tested devices consist of:

Xperia Z (OS4.2.2)

Xperia Z2 (OS4.4.2)

Xperia ZL2 (OS4.4.2)

Galaxy S5 (OS4.4.2, OS4.4.3)

HTC one m8 (OS4.4.4)

We also have it running on S4 and S3.

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[Android General] esmenikmatixx:
You'll have to try it out and see.. When I was using the official Samsung mhl adapter, the amperage was too high from the 3.1 charger and caused noise and a flickering picture. But I have not tried with the pioneer mhl adapter. I didn't think it came with the 5 to 11 pin adapter, did you have to buy separate?
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
Ah I see, well I guess I can try, I was hoping someone with more knowledge would know. Yes I did have to purchase the Samsung 5 to 11 adapter separately, at that time I was still using the ARLiberator app and was having a nightmare trying to figure out why it wasn't working. Then I tried one of the first ARUnchained betas and it worked immediately , right after that I had a medical issue and went MIA and wasn't able to keep up on what was going on. So yea I was able to get my VZW Note 3 to work immediatlely with ARU the official pioneer MHL cables and the Samsung 5 to 11 adapter. Now looking back I think I just got very lucky that that combo just worked and I didn't have to do too much research afterwards.
[Android General] quad_galaxys4:
I couldnt take a video of it but I found one which is a very good representation of how it works and how fast it is. "youtube.com/watch?v=GwsZbpbbGjo" .I cant post links on the forums yet.

As you see in the video its quite responsive, but not super fast. I really have trouble with only one thing. The navigation. Its just a map with route overlaid in AppradioLive. There is a navi option but it says no compatible navi app found. (I tried all navi app compatible with appradio) If not full mirroring, if just a navi app like gmaps or waze or navifree could work with this, it will be great.

Fingers crossed that pioneer launches an update to add more compatible apps.

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Yeah but its been 2 months since the post, and both Waze and Navfree (now updated to Navmii) arent working with it. So i finally decided to gave up hope on pioneer and thats the reason i wanted to know if something can be done from our end. Any idea how they can be ported? I dont know where to begin actually. If you could give me directions i could work on my own and figure something out and contribute to xda. :) I tried getting the sdk from pioneer but i need to be registered and all that.
[Android General] forevergone:
Hi all, I just bought a Pioneer SPH-DA210 unit and am interested in using AppRadio unchained. I am aware of its capabilities but I'm confused as to which adapter I need to use. I have the full set of instructions here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3RfhweaIdiPdW9TOFpZWEF1OEk/view

According to the pioneer website, I have to use the samsung adapter (Samsung ET-H10FAUWESTA) for my phone instead of the supplied MHI adapter supplied in the Pioneer CD-AH200 connectivity kit. I'm confused by this:

http://www.appradioworld.com/2013/08/how-to-correctly-connect-samsung-galaxy.html

According to the article, in order to use AppRadio with the unit, I need the Samsung HDTV (EPL-FU10BEBSTD) adapter.

How does everything plug in?
[Android General] Area51©:
Samsung uses an 11 pin connector so you either use the CD-AH200 5 pin with the EPL-FU10BEBSTD 11 to 5 pin adapter or you use the ET-H10FAUWESTA that has an 11 pin connector already. If you don't have any adapter yet just get the ET-H10FAUWESTA.
[Android General] gdesantos:
Hi Area51,

I have seen that appradio unchained reloaded app of google play now supports GPS positions from AppRadio4.

Are you going to support this on the free arunchained mod?

Thanks for your excellent work!
[Android General] Area51©:
Sorry but it's highly unlikely that will ever happen. Adding new features and maintenance will only be done on the paid version. I don't want to shoot myself in the foot by giving away more of my work for free. The free version got more than 40000 downloads and less than 150 people donated anything ever. So that's not really a business model that is working for me.
[Android General] gdesantos:
Ok!

And what about ARUnchained GPS Injector? That is a paid application.

Thanks!
[Android General] rigattoni:
The GPS injector was a paid upgrade on the free version of ARUnchained, nothing more or less.

If you want to get new hardware running, please use the paid ARUReloaded version. This single version is supported and has been adapted to the AppRadio4.
[Android General] kLeR1k:
Can't read whole 800 pages, so i will ask a question:

I have Nexus 5 with 5.1 Lolipop. After i connect phone to headunit and pass thru calibration test (on headunit display) touching headunit screen doesn't make any changes on display. But if i install original AR Live i can control phone via headunit screen after passing calibration test (but can't go to Android homescreen inspite of displayed lolipop buttons).

So, does ARU support 5.1 Lolipop?

Headunit DA110
[Android General] Area51©:
Actually exactly this issue has been discussed over and over, it may even take half of the 800 pages already. To fix it you need to put SELinux in permissive mode or buy ARU Reloaded that supports SELinux in enforcing mode.
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
Newer Phones

I looked but didn't see anything, was wondering if we have any updated list on compatibility with any of the newer phones. It looks like the latest survey pdf I'm seeing stops at about the first month of last year. I'm able to go to the Note 4 from the 3 for free but don't know if it will even work with AR2 and ARU my guess is no but again just wondering if any of the newer phones have been checked yet.
[Android General] spark001uk:
Just a quick question on your work. First off it's not a moan, I firmly agree good work needs a reward to encourage its support and upkeep, I'm all for it. But at the same time, 19gbp is a lot of cash, so I hope you wouldn't mind giving an idea of what this amount pays for? After all, according to its 1000+ downloads, that's netted you at least 19000gbp; which is a pretty respectable whole year's salary in UK! Wouldn't a more favourable business model perhaps be a more reasonable price, thereby boosting downloads probably quite significantly? As you say, you had 40000+ downloads of the free aru. So let's say for example you charged 5gbp for it, even if only a quarter of those 40000 people bought it you would still net yourself 50000gbp!

And I do want to buy it, it just seems very expensive at the moment that's all!
[Android General] metalcated:
[MENTION=5417637]Area51©[/MENTION] Just an FYI, not sure what changed but I got a new SUV and when I moved everything over to the new vehicle I decided to upgrade to .24 and poof suddenly its working without flaw... who knows but just wanted to report its no longer an issue.

Also I want to ask a question: I searched google and this thread with no results, Does anyone know if the side left control bar can be turned off or removed on the AVH-4000NEX when in AppRadio Mode? When you first calibrate the screen it goes into this nice full screen mode, then once you turn the HU off and back on... this crap control bar shows up. I would love to make it go bye bye. :good:

HA! Suppose reading the user manual would be helpful lol.

"If you press the HOME button twice, the App control side bar will disappear. Press the HOME button twice again, and the App control side bar will appear"
[Android General] eL_Jee:
Disable incall screen

I have an Appradio 3, and in-call the headunit will always display an OSD on the right half of the screen.

This HU screen also disables touch for my phone. Effectively, I have no navigation while I'm calling, often making me miss my turns.

Is there a way to disable this head-unit screen?
[Android General] Area51©:
No, it's in the firmware so it can't be changed.
[Android General] Area51©:
The Note 4 will work if you can root it. Afaik for Verizon and AT&T there's no root available. So if it's one from those providers it won't work.
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
Dude I'm totally on it gunna pick one up today Woohoo!
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the marketing advice but I am not going to lower the price. I know it's not cheap but it's a high quality app, I give good support and plan to maintain it for at least a couple of years. Also you can try it for 48 hours and if you don't like it you get a refund. If you think it's too expensive then don't get it. I am not forcing you to buy it.
[Android General] Area51©:
Just make sure it's with a provider that you can get root for.
[Android General] BIGSIKE3:
Yep it's TMobile they've had root for a little while now.
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes there's about 60 Tmobile Note 4 users of ARU Reloaded.
[Android General] Area51©:
You just hit the magic fix button on the first of April. Seriously, it was strange it didn't work as I had no complaints from 250 beta users. I even got a confirmation that it works with a 4100NEX and a 8100NEX as well.

Yes good idea I can highly recommend it.
[Android General] spark001uk:
Fair point. Bit Blunt, but fair point. The point I was trying to make is that as far as the figures go, so far only about 1 in 40 people have bought the paid app, that seems very little to me. However, it's your project, if you're happy with that then that's fair enough. As you say, you're not forcing me to buy it, but that's probably what 39000 other people are thinking??
[Android General] Area51©:
We could have a never ending discussion about it. You don't know what 39000 people are thinking. You only know what you think and that's clear now. I only know enough people are buying the app.
[Android General] spark001uk:
You're right, I don't know what they're thinking, it was a figure of speech! What I meant was they are all potential customers, potential income. I wasn't trying to tell you how to run your business don't get me wrong, I was just trying to help, sharing a view from the outside! :)
[Android General] djfourmoney:
I don't know why people who haven't bought anything from a business actually tell them HOW to do business.

So let me get this straight -

The least expensive Pioneer Double Din that supports Mirror Link/App Radio Live is $330 US (222.92 GBP). So after spending at least 222 pounds people complain the app is too expensive???

Then they have a smartphone, who knows how much they pay for it (up front or over time).

Even if you got the cheapest Android smartphone that would work, that supports MHL is maybe $149.

If people can't come up with $30, maybe they should look at their lifestyles.

Also if you need $40-$50 you can always donate plasma...

ARU/Area51 Keep Your Price, in-fact, if you feel the need to increase it go ahead.... As I am finding out more and more, the people that complain about price haven't bought sh*t and even if you offered it too them for free (as you said there's a trial) they still don't buy it.

These types of request should be ignored.
[Android General] rmadrid20:
Is the nexus 6 compatible with this app? Is the hml cable compatible with the nexus 6?

BTW the price is fair... for what it does

Thanks all