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[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
After some hours using build 07/01 nightly combine with boeffla kernel beta 7 (clean flash,,,wich is of course with zRam off)

Unfortunatelly thoose "freeze and hard reboot issue" still there.

It's happen to me many times, and mostly when running apps/games wich is consume much memory.

So,, maybe clear that it's exactly our (i9300) hardware problem, wich is too old and "powerless" for todays usage.

:(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Maybe thats the reason I never faced reboots, as I do not do any gaming ever.

But it confirms my statement... for a proper running CM13 we need a more modern phone than the S3.

I use CM11 on my S3 only, and I know why :D

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
For now, i will try back to stock kernel, only to make sure that it's not a kernel problem.

As far as i know before yesterday (while thoose issue faced me first time on beta 6 kernel), its never happen to me.

Altought my usage is mostly same, no more than 20 user apps (and only one games FIFA 16 UT).
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
Ok, I got it, but still the price we are paying for such versatility is very high, phones that requires more memory than a full PC doesn't much sense to me. I know that a smartphone is a little and complex computer too, but anyway I feel the situation is pretty much out of control.

On a more technical aspect, and sorry for my ignorance, but, for each app an instance of the VM is started ?, also, the apps aren't precompiled, so we have dalvik cache, and now ART ?, maybe the pseudo code and it's VM interpreter are memory hogs ?, because what is cause that the dumbest app consumes so much memory ?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] ansh1996:
I'm no expert on these things. But my common sense days that if there was a way that these apps could be run on different platforms without them hogging so much battery, Google would have done that in Android by now. And companies like Samsung wouldn't have come up with 4 GB RAM and stuff like that.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] azazello22:
Excuse-me Lord, would you suggest Nameless or CM (based on KitKat)?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Latest CM11 nightly as of 13 December 2015 - rock stable.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] arifnasirshaikh:
I get error 404 while downloading cm11 13 dec nightly.? Any idea where can i find alternate link?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Logan:
Lord what do you think about blekota note 4 latest version+your kernel 7.9(not for games etc just normal usage) because i prefer touchwiz style more aosp ,aosp not my type like cm13, and does cm11 support alll video formats?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I don't know that rom. Sorry.

I use only pure cm. And I stopped using ports.

Generally I don't use my s3 anymore for almost a year.

So not good to ask me ☺

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] The_Voice_70:
Here for all the people who need it :D

https://mega.nz/#!RltlQYgA!vkA5fLTsmyauyVsencW7X9_xmavDFLBoI2D4rewfN38

Also I checked todays CM13 with Boeffla 5.0 beta7. It works really finde. But there will be a lot of work from CM13 Dev. until CM13 get the power of CM11 . ;)

Great job from you Andi. You keep the spirit alive on S3. Many thanks for that:good:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Hi, Lord

Hate to say this,

But, i must say, with stock kernel (after some hours usage) "freeze and hard reboot" issue, didn't happen to me (again, never). Also tested by my friend, recently he used also your kernel beta 7 with 07/01 CM 13 nightly build, and faced too many "random reboot" issue.

And, then i suggest he to back to stock kernel, and we test it together.

I don't believe, the result is realy unexpectable.

Me and my friends, didn't experience thoose "freeze/hard reboot/random reboot" again.

Stock kernel with all stock settings (by default zRam is on with 250 MB, i keep it on).

But, again. I'm not forcing you to doing anything, i just share my experience.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
That is fine. I will not do anything anyways as development for s3 is over.

Also I never had a freeze myself, so no way to do anything.

And I am not sad when people use other kernels or stock.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
But out of curiosity... What was your exact configuration?

Of course stock kernel is not even comparable to Boeffla default.

And with stock kernel it is harder to configure something unstable as there is only limited functionality and options to do so.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
But maybe I will provide you with some test kernels in the next weeks if ok.

Have some ideas to try out, but would need you to test it as I don't have these issues...

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
It's not SAD for you, but really SAD for me. :(

I'm really boeffla kernel fan, since i know it.

But, i know. I can't force you to doing anything.

My kernel setting both on stock/boeffla was always the stock settings, i'm not touching anything. Because, personaly prefer on stock value at all.

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First, when many people talking about this issue, and then many others confirmed it.

I personally didn't believe, because it's never happen to me,

But, since 2 days ago, its happening for me. And happen continously. After that i agree with this issue, so trying to give you a report.

But, all is your decision. We (user) can't force you anything.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] cokesucker:
Thanks Andi, i listened to you long ago and stayed on cm11 as my daily driver (occasionally i flash LP/MM out of curiosity ;)). Its a shame that they left it on 13 Dec, but as you say its still rock stable for our little s3.

Do you mind sharing/suggesting the profile you are using in yours? Sorry if it's been asked before.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Of course.

Will be glad, if you provide it. And sure, i will test and give you report for the result.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
The link doesn't exist anymore in CM site... :(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Logan:
Sorry for this question but anybody can upload antutu results for cm11+ boeffla kernel in over-clocking? Thanks
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
[MENTION=5530113]tokict[/MENTION]: You have PM with a test kernel link.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Ok.

Thanks. Will check it. And test it now. A few hours later, i will give you report.

Thanks Andi,

For still care to s3 i9300
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I am very curious about your report. But take your time, no rush.

Many thanks. I want to get this beast stable also for you.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
No,

Being a tester for Boeffla Kernel is like a pride for me.

You already give your passion on it, even you actually didn't need it. (Only user like me who really need it)

So, as far as i have time, i will give it all for you.

I have a lot of free time,

So,, don't worry.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] zuziemanis:
I will test everytime you give kernel lord

But in 6.x, 7.x, 8x..9x...

But looks like im not luck and just see eol :(

Just kidding lord :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Logan:
Guys i want to try chainfire systemless supersu 2.66

In chainfire thread he wrote about custom kernels and ramdisks that uses different format than "gzip" type which is required to flash the zip so it is possible to flash it over boeffla kernel (becaause it is a port)?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
For my S3 kernels, it should work. My ramdisk uses gzip compression on the S3.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] sunny1234590:
Is there anything in this planet which this kernel doesn't support? Awesome Kernel I must say! ;) [MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Logan:
Systemless supersu 2.66 by chainfire works perfectly no issues with xposed or any app

(But make sure to turn off root access in developer options)

ill test if it effects the battery and thank lord you made a history for that dead phone

We must call you the legend not the lord xD
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
DON'T FLASH SUPERSU 2.66 !!

I couldn't resist, and I'm testing last CM13 nightly, first I've restored previous nandroid and flashed gapps, kernel, etc., AND SuperSu 2.66. When the phone booted to home screen immediately rebooted and ended in a bootloop. Then I tried a clean flash with same files, and again the same, as a last resort flashed all BUT SuperSu 2.66 and all worked fine. Then flashed SuperSu 2.65 (internal root still doesn't work for me) and all is fine...
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Maxoobidou:
As a general rule, don't flash everything at once. Lots of ROMs need their first boot as is.

Except for Gapps and .zip specified in their thread, flashing after the second boot is always better. You'll avoid lots of bootloops.

That's especially true for custom kernels and root exploits.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
Never had a single problem flashing a group of zips, including SuperSu, until v2.66.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] hamza touati:
please can you tell me if xposed is working on the latest cm11 of 13 December 2015
[Galaxy S III Android Development] sanguinesaintly:
You already asked on the cm11 ie the correct thread You ought to try and see. BTW what's this got to do with Boeffla?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Nothing.

And asking that in my thread, where everyone knows I "don't like" xposed, is really brave [emoji1]

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] arminbih:
Hey guys I can test that kernel as well, using boeffla and flashing all sorts of stuff for over a year now, so if u want send it my way. And thx for all the work [emoji4]
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Borkse:
Hi, thank you for your recommendations.

May I ask for the reason why these governors should be linked with these specific idle modes mentioned above?

I once read the Boeffla documentation and remember that AFTR+LPA was called the best choice in terms of battery life.

At the moment I am using pegasusq with AFTR+LPA, that's the reason why I am asking.

Besides, I wanted to ask why ZRam was initally activated by default for CM12/13 ROMS. I recall that for CM11 it was deactivated by default. Is there a specific reason - except for the fact that CM12 and CM13 ROMs propably need a greater part of the available ram - why ZRam has been activated by default. Actually, I never experienced any problems with it in terms of CM13. It's just a question because of curiosity. I also learned that the Lord isn't quite a fan of it. Is it because it cannot replace any 'truely' existing ram or is there more behind this attitude.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] hamza touati:
sorry :( please don't hate me iam new here and I don't knew the rules ............ I will not do it again :(
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Don't ask it to me,

Ask Lord for it,

1 question : Do you also faced "freeze and soft reboot" issue with recent beta kernel for cm 13 ?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] rpdroky:
Its all about hotplug , second core is almost always active with pegasusq , zzmoove power down to 1 core as soon as posible except the Relax profile , that one keeps 2 cores online

Check out this post , you will understand why :)

Cheers :highfive:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] goldbeard:
How's your testing results so far with the test kernel ? Have you had any freezes ?

We are anxious to know if the issue is resolved, even the Lord himself ;) :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Yupz,

Unfortunatelly freeze and soft reboot issue still there ....
[Galaxy S III Android Development] kbh9229:
no random reboot or freeze on temasek cm13 v2.6 + latest boeffla kernel.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I will never hate you for that. Lol [emoji1]

Hate is quite a hard thing for me.

All is good.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] 2phazt:
What to use in zzmove relax? Idle+lpa?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I always recommend Idle+lpa, it is the most stable setting.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Mrcactuseater:
I can test for you!

Tapatalk'd from my Twisted, Electrified Nexus 5
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Hi,

thanks to all who want to test.

But again - I have a test user that can replicate the reboot / freeze / soft reboot issues, so I am working with him to find what it causes for him.

In the end, we all will leverage from the findings.

(and yes, I have already a quite important finding by a flaw in my build process, so it was already good...)

Cheers

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
Andi you have created (involuntarily) a furore with last version of CM 11 saying that is the best rom for the S3 !!! :D

Even I was searching a version of Xposed that work with CM 11 and was extremely difficult to find...

Now, because of very weird restore problems (for the first time) with TWRP, I'm stuck by now with CM 11 with latest boeffla u600, configured in the same way as I do with all roms, and to be honest I believe it's the fastest...
[Galaxy S III Android Development] rpdroky:
Andi's right about that , IDLE+LPA is the most stable , AFTR doesn't trigger if there are more cores active beside the first one
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
New CM13 beta

Good evening,

very unusual for a weekend, but here we go for a CM13 Boeffla-Kernel update.

Version 5.0-beta8

10.01.2016

Fix: Fixed improper file permissions in ramdisk (improve stability)

Change: Default zRam enabled again

Change: zRam compression changed to LZO (closer to stock)

Update: Ramdisk of official CM13.0 build of 10.01.16

Enjoy

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] fonfox:
[MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION] Andi first thanks for update.

can you tell the new default Z-Ram values and swappiness. Because when i switch to default profile there is the old from beta 7 without zram thanks
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I just brought the same values back.

So it is 256 MB size (you can put it manually to 260) and swappiness 80. Just as before.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Borkse:
Thanks Lord. I will immediately flash it. However, I think I will keep ZRam disabled as nobody seems to be a fan of it. ;)

Me neither, I have to say, but I can't estimate the consequences of it quite clearly. However, I trust your wide experience.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] fonfox:
This was my value to in older beta 7 because runnig without z-ram got by extremly usage sometimes low memory.

Is it by default also 1 Zram device?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Yes, 1 device.

Just like CM13 stock kernel.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] ansh1996:
I really had no idea that stock kernel used zRam. I thought this was a custom feature. One that stock people would 'despise' to include.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
I've solved my restore problems so I'm back to CM 12.1 Build 31. Latest CM 11 is fastest in some things and runs very well, but CM 12.1 evens the comparison with its HWcomposer, the screen is much faster. The notification drawer is much better in CM 12.1 and the thing that I missed most in CM 11. Battery is about the same on both.

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From my experience, zram is badly needed from KK rom to MM, despite debloating all heavily. Until JB 4.3 I was happy without it, but since 4.4 doing the lightest multitasking, it made apps close or lag. I didn't wanted to use it, but then realized that the phone performed better with it. It's not an ideal situation, but as the ram memory can't be expanded physically on our old and loved S3, we must face that zram it's a necessity, and one that runs pretty well. The extra battery consumption is negligible.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] arminbih:
Did anyone try that motox lmk values from cm13 thread they are supposed to be good?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
Nun

At the Moment i test some other values.

I took them from the original 4.3 stock kernel just for fun

I test know for 8-9 hours and everything seems to be okay.

I have in total 87 apps like whatsapp Telegram chrome for example and i play need for speed no limits.

No problems and nothing to complain until now.....

Zram 300

Swappiness 60

Lmk 24/31/38/48/55/67
[Galaxy S III Android Development] whatsgood:
[MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION] what is your knowledge on Adaptive LMK?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Too much hocus pocus in my opinion.

I think we should not try to overcomplicate simple things too much.

Anyways... S3 kernels are eol.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
Tested these settings until now. After one day of usage the phone became extremely slow. So you can forget the lmk values i wrote.

It was just one more crazy try but no way......
[Galaxy S III Android Development] FadeFx:
Andi can you give a link to that particular patch? Forkbomb444 is unavailavle for a while now, so i want to ask codeworkx if he can apply that patch to the source. Am i right that it is related to hotplugging?

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[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
No, it is an upstream revert patch, nothing to do with hotplugging.

Here you go:

https://github.com/andip71/boeffla-kernel-cm-s3/commit/e4e586287b39b0aa419852908f1dab21b02a1b20

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] ScratMan38:
I don't use my S3 anymore, I gave it to my wife so that she can play games with it without draining the battery of her Z3c.

But I remember when it was my daily phone, that I had to either reboot it everyday, or switch zRAM off/on to avoid slow down and freeze. And this was the case for all ROM I could use : TW 4.3, CM11, CM12, and CM12.1 (the phone is still on latest ArchiDroid).

I remember a dev (maybe [MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION]) said zRAM is buggy, that its implementation was not correctly flushing the memory when apps were killed ; a kind of memory leak that progressively clogg the memory and slow down the phone. He said VnSwap was better, but too much work to bring it on S3.

Maybe a solution would be to use an automation app, like Tasker, to automatically send an intent to Boeffla Config app while phone is not in use, to briefly switch the profile in order to switch off then on the zRAM, so that it is forced flushed.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] androidware:
Lord, if you need tester, i'm here every time.. My s3 My second Phone.. I don't use for daily drive..
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
I use zram since about an year in a lot of ROMs, and I can see (with boeffla app) how the amount of memory used varies with time, so for me it's an evidence that memory is flushed when apps are killed, and I haven't had any problem with it. Don't understand why so many are complaining now about zram when it's available since a lot of time, and in my case performed flawlessly...
[Galaxy S III Android Development] FadeFx:
Sorry to bother you again, but can you post it on gerrit and add codeworkx to it, i have no idea on how to do this... ;)

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[Galaxy S III Android Development] arminbih:
Testing this lmk posted on moto e forum that has 1gb ram as well, they seem really good with zram on 380. If u guys wanna try them
[Galaxy S III Android Development] marcero:
any special reason for 380?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] arminbih:
I guess not too much strain, not to little memory, haha might be best lmk for me yet but I don't multitask much 3 apps max
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
OK i will test it and give feedback....
[Galaxy S III Android Development] viktor92:
AFAIK there isn't a magic number, if the phone runs well with 380, will run exactly fine with 450 o 600, the memory will be compressed on demand. So I use 600 in one device, and in most cases the memory used is about half of the total available
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
This serms to work good!!!!!

Before i got sometimes reboots after playing NFS no limits.....

Now the soft and hart reboots are totally gone. At least in my case.

---------- Post added at 01:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:36 PM ----------

Please, could you tell me the default (stock) values for the one plus one) of zram and swappiness if you know?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
I answered that 1 or 2 days ago in this thread already :(

256 MB (put it on 260 in Boeffla-Config) and swappiness 80 is automatically enabled when you switch on zram.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
Sorry andi i forgot to mention that i mean the opo values......

Or is it the same??
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Opo?

I never enable any zRam on the OnePlus One.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
:D

I should concentrate myself a little bit more when i am reading the forum at the work.......

Forget what i asked ;)
[Galaxy S III Android Development] arifnasirshaikh:
Hello lord just wanna ask... What is the best setting for zram? I read somewhere and i put zram device 4 and 600mb. Are they any good..? Is it overkill? Or the default values will do..?

And ya forgot to mention phones get very slow sometimes.. Any idea?
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Hawaiihemd:
Aw, common buddy. All this (really, all... !) has been discussed and commented on at length by Andi and others in this thread. Please, your time has as much value as everyone elses. Don't be too lazy to do some reading.
[Galaxy S III Android Development] Flummi.FFM:
Guys Simon seems to be back at developing.

I See New Entry from him in the cmxlog

Welcome back [MENTION=5405215]forkbomb444[/MENTION] :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Yeah, I answered many times already.

If you do not have an immediate need for zRam, do not use it at all.

It just covers (but does not solve) the underlying problem of the S3 having not enough memory anymore for todays Android world.

If you decide you need it, try with stock kernel settings first, which are 256 MB (put Boeffla-Config App to 260) on one device.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] sunny1234590:
[MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION] your patch has been successfully merged! :D
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Saw it :)

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Hi [MENTION=947981]Lord Boeffla[/MENTION]

New 'Snapshot' of CM 11 just released today.

Will you take a look at this? And maybe give us at least maintenance update if needed.

Hehe..

I'm sorry to ask
[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
No, I will not.

Snapshot releases are always so much different to nightlies, I always skipped them. Actually I never liked them ever.

But usually latest kernel should run fine on it.

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] FadeFx:
Afaik snapshot releases are essentially a few days back from nightly (if available) just to have all implemented changes tested for a while. This snapshot most likely is just to bring some security patches to cm11, nobody is doing changes to the stock cm11 kernel anyways so no changes to do for you...

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[Galaxy S III Android Development] andip71:
Correct.

And I am still monitoring the CM11 kernel branch, so in the unlikely case something gets added, I will of course provide an update again. But as you said already, not very likely anyways...

Andi
[Galaxy S III Android Development] tokict:
Ok, no problem.

I don't know if you didn't like 'snapshot' release btw,

I just think that, don't CM stopped CM 11 for s3 ? So, i think this last 'snapshot' released should include all nightlies stuff (untill last nightly version). Why i'm asking for maintenance update is just to match ramdisk with this latest 'snapshot' release. (No more than it).

But, this is all just my opinion. Of course, you know everything 'much better' than me.

And, if you don't. Of course i will use your latest released with it.

Correct me if i'm wrong

Thanks Andi,