yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
Does your recovery screen look like the recovery screen in the twrp post? Just want to make sure it actually got flashed on your Pine.

If it is, are you flashing from external SD or internal? Try external if doing internal
[Other SmartWatches] champagneZurich:
No, doesn't look like in the post, it's not touch sensitive. I get the lines I have to move with the +/- volume and confirm with the power button. Not right? Tried aswell internal and sd.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
Yep not twrp, that's stock recovery.
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Monx & Seth50

I found a bug in my Pine with the Custom Rom. (at least its only in my Pine i guess).

its the first release and havent flash the updated second release.

BTW, the bugs in my Pine was rebooting problem. a sudden reboot happens and it will be at least every 5-10 minutes when i switch on hotspot.. only reboot problem, the rest of the apps and functions works flawlessly. and even better than stock.

is there any slack i made or app related? and also, i didnt install any apps, only those that came with the custom rom. i was gonna try it for a few days without installing anything.

thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
So it didn't reboot with hotspot on stock?
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
No reboot in stock.

it started yesterday actually after a day i flashed the rom. it was not only in hotspot function on but during surfing apps in drawer or using apps like the built in browser, settings menu especially in battery, storage and language and input.

..............................................

Now im using the updated version. looks great from previous. screen response better and smooth scrolling and swiping from previous version.

:good:
[Other SmartWatches] monx®:
[MENTION=4487520]theoppositeman[/MENTION]

pls try disable/kill memory hog apps before using hotspot. maybe system panic due to ram shortage. logcat is really helpful if u can provide before & when the reboot occur. the best way is to echo logcat to pc so when the cut off happens, it will capture the last event.

■ sent frm mobile
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
There's a couple logcat apps too, like alogcat, which should accomplish the same.
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
will download the app later.

as for now, ive been pushing my hotspot to use for more than 4 hours and nothing happens.

so i guess this update seems to solve the problem.

..................

for this custom rom ;

- zooper widget is nice and great looks on the Pine, except it freezes and slowing down the Pines touch response. might be to heavy for the ram. even in stock in sometimes freezes.

- apex launcher is nice though but in terms of response and smooth function, nova can go better (at least in my Pine).

- as for now smartlauncher pro and wp8 launcher can run great on both stock and custom.

-other functions in this custom runs great and of course better than stock.

Looking forward for other custom roms...

great one monx
[Other SmartWatches] monx®:
i was using smart launcher pro on omate & i found its not really works well when its related to widget so im back to nova. here my latest config.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
Hey [MENTION=1062326]monx[/MENTION] can you host your TWRP on Mega, too? The site its on now makes it very easy to get malware on your PC.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
What nova theme and widget is that?
[Other SmartWatches] monx®:
ok. the download button @ devhost is the black one. the recovery has been updated yesterday. now internal & external sd are exportable thru UMS mode.

the icon theme is klok project icon pack.

widgets are

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.dnsproject.clock_widget_main

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.devmil.minimaltext

the bell & ross clock images i get frm other smartwatch thread & i modify to suit my preferences.

■ sent frm mobile
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
v04 TWRP mirrored here, if anyone wants: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vywd2ixjuvr0aiz/twrprecovery2800-pine-monx-v04.img?dl=0

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Any plans to try and port a newer base like 4.3, or a more battery friendly kernel?

I realize without the source that might prove challenging...

Thanks for all your work so far!
[Other SmartWatches] Xxpedbelo0oxX:
problem with the recovery

(Hello sir. I did all of your steps, but it keeps me in the stock recovery mode i dont why. I tried again and again and same result. When i used the command its said finished and everything fine. Any idea?
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
When you sent the "fastboot reboot" command, it rebooted?
[Other SmartWatches] Xxpedbelo0oxX:
yes

yes sir ... ? it rebooted and after it starts up i shutdown and try to do the recovery. But sadly it shows up the stock recovery. So what should i do ?
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
Try this version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g5d6fb6lc7xik96/twrprecovery2800-pine-monx-v02.img?dl=0
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
can you try this.

1. turn off Pine.

2. press Vol Up & Down & Power Button.

3. When Neptune Logo appear, release power & vol down. Hold (press) Vol Up. if TWRP installed it will shows the TWRP logo.

at certain Pine (maybe) like mine i had to hold vol up to get into twrp. this is only when we want to enter twrp in swith off mode.

so its much better to installed xposed and xblast tools/gravity box to expand the start menu in many modes (restarting mode), like Turn Off, Restart, Recovery, Bootloader etc...

:)
[Other SmartWatches] Xxpedbelo0oxX:
no

not work either . and do i need to be rooted before doing the flashing ?
[Other SmartWatches] jjcollector:
First XDA Post!

Hello! I'm a long time Nexus 4 root user, first time XDA poster, and have a little knowledge to share here.

I too have your problem where

fastboot flash recovery twrprecovery2800-pine-monx-v04.img

failed to flash the recovery.

However, if you type in

fastboot boot twrprecovery2800-pine-monx-v04.img

you'll boot into the TWRP custom recovery once.

I'm very excited for future development of this watch. Good job to everyone involved in this project!
[Other SmartWatches] Xxpedbelo0oxX:
thx

thank you for sharing this thing. I have wiped my device and reinstalled the root and i tried again with the known steps and it worked. Thank you all for helping.
[Other SmartWatches] monx®:
by using fastboot boot command, u wont hv permanent twrp recovery.

try use diff fastboot binary. i will upload the one im using later.

■ sent frm mobile
[Other SmartWatches] jjcollector:
I'm aware that using fastboot boot does not install the TWRP recovery. I was using the fastboot binary provided by the Android SDK. It's always work for my Nexus 4, so I never considered that it wouldn't work for another AOSP device such as the Pine. I'll try again with another fastboot binary to see if fastboot flash will work.

*Edit

Turns it did flash after all. Sorry for any confusion.
[Other SmartWatches] ffinder:
Neptune Pine in Wikipedia - help..

Dear All,

Posted a basic article about Pine in Wikipedia:

Neptune Pine in Wikipedia

Please help if possible as Wikipedia moderators posted the following:

This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page.

This article appears to be written like an advertisement. (January 2015)

The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. (January 2015)

This article needs additional citations for verification. (January 2015)

This article should be divided into sections by topic, to make it more accessible. (January 2015)

Thanks in advance for any help.

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[Other SmartWatches] rmk152:
Increase Volume??

Received my pine yesterday 8-1-15 and am very happy with it so far, way better than my Z2 Smartwatch, However the Z2 had a louder speaker output as i used Mobileuncle tools (MTK devices only) to increase the volume.

Is it possible to increase the Pines volume output via system file or a diagnostic code to change settings?
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
You can check the build.prop file for these values maybe, and play around with them. Some phones have it:

Sys build.prop

Speaker volume

Change audio speaker volumes labeled 0-4 to "30"

Leave 5 at 31 (change to 31 if it's lower)
[Other SmartWatches] jschall:
Auto Start (Shake to Wake) sensitivity

Neptune has included an Auto Screen On option in the Display settings, which allows one to turn the screen on (but not off) with a shake of the wrist. That's great, you don't have to find and click the power button just to turn on the screen.

But the sensitivity of the shake is much too high to be practical. The screen turns on with the slightest wrist motion.

How can this shake sensitivity be reduced? Does it require a change at the ROM level? Or is there a setting in the build.prop file?

Or, is there a better way to turn the screen on without using the power button?
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
Screenshots

I accidentally figured out a bit ago how to take a screenshot (hold volume down and power button together, I believe it was) but recently did the Mem card swap and now this no longer works. Anyone know the reason for this and/or another way to take screenshots on the Pine?
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
I did the SD swap and can still screenshot.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
Oddly enough, now it seems to be working...a few days ago it wasn't. Guess the Pine was just being quirky...not the first time, probably not the last. That said, it has performed well for me with few issues and none that have been long term or permanent- even the battery life has increased to the point of lasting 36 hrs+ at times...I love my Pine :D
[Other SmartWatches] rmk152:
Checked my build.prop file but could not find any values like what you have suggested, a bit reluctant to enter anything manually just in case something bad happens.

Thankyou for your quick response anyhow ;)
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
Port irritations

HI everyone!

I've been trying to port CM10 (not CM11 for reasons) and I got the basic things to work and by that I mean I'm in a bootloop :D

I would like to request monx' help to help me fix those issues I'm getting.

I'll try to upload a logcat and the ROM asap. In short: a critical process called Zygote crashes continously and I can't find the reason :/
[Other SmartWatches] Evengard:
About flashing recovery - this version of fastboot works - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317790

This one - doesn't work at all (both versions) - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2588979

So be careful in choosing the right one!
[Other SmartWatches] TAOTAO161:
BT issue

somebody may occur issue with the BT ? as I can find the Neptune on my HTC M8 MINI phone, but I can see other devices on the pine BT menu :rolleyes:

Ok after few resets to the pine its work.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
Try setting visibility timeout to NEVER on the Pine.
[Other SmartWatches] rmk152:
Memory Expander

Hi anyone know how i can expand my Pines memory (RAM)?

Tried downloading ROEHSOFT RAM Expander (SWAP) form the play store BUT Force closes.

The Ram tester however said i have no Swappable compatible kernel so would have failed anyway.

[IMG="Not Compatible"]http://x63.imgup.net/Screenshotdbc6.png[/IMG]

-

[IMG="Availible RAM"]http://o75.imgup.net/Screenshot8fb4.png[/IMG]
[Other SmartWatches] gsmith413:
help me to get neptune pine

hi everyone

i have been the fan of neptune pine since its early days.

i cud not back it up and could not purchase it as i live in india.

can any one suggest me a way to get it in india??

i have read the whole forum post by post today and am happy to c the ongoing devlopment. thanks monx and others
[Other SmartWatches] jschall:
[MENTION=4742961]gsmith413[/MENTION]: You can probably buy the Pine from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/NEPTUNE-Pine-...8&qid=1423930383&sr=8-1&keywords=neptune+pine

On Facebook, check with Eswar Kiran in Bhimavaram, and Mansur A. Usmani in Chennai.
[Other SmartWatches] Develo:
Pine: my Story & Challenge

Hi,

The Story

========

I got my Pine, been using it for a couple of weeks now, and I love it. It's big and chunky, but that suits me, it makes me feel like a kid again (used to have a casio data bank watch ages ago).

I was driving and got a call from my wife, but on the car bluetooth I cut her off instead of answering. Calling back from the car bluetooth requires several taps, which I couldn't risk, and I couldn't reach my cel in pocket. But I had my Pine on my wrist, tethered to my phone. A couple of taps, and my Pine told my cel to call my wife back. I then talked to her over my car's bluetooth. Just awesome integration.

I installed IP webcam on the Pine, and I can see the camera feed on my cel, over LAN or internet. A bluetooth camera app also works. An awesome portable wireless camera.

HD pics are pretty good, and certainly good enough for my purposes.

Battery lasts for about 36h with wifi and bluetooth on the whole time, which is also pretty good.

With the helmet accessory it can be used as a replacement gopro cam.

So here's the thing. Among the reasons I bought the Pine was that I wanted to use it as a replacement cycle computer for my bike. The idea was: snap off my wrist, snap on the bike, start pedaling. In order to do that, I bought a BLE cadence sensor (the Pine has BLE 4.0 hardware).

And then I found out that BLE is supported with Android 4.3 and later, but the Pine has Android 4.1.2, and no official update can be released by Neptune.

Why?

Because Qualcomm support sucks.

The Pine is based on an Adreno 200, and Qualcomm's last driver release version supports Android 4.1. They "don't have plans to release a driver update". I'm a software engineer, and I know full well what it means to port a driver. All it requires is a small bit of R&D and QA time. It's not a big deal, it's just a port. That means there was a management decision somewhere (or lack of decision).

In other words, Qualcomm's lack of support screwed over Neptune, and left the Pine at less-than-it-could-be.

All that is left is to try for a custom ROM. There is hope for this, but I don't have the time to investigate how to do it myself.

Hence the Challenge.

The Challenge

============
[MENTION=1062326]monx[/MENTION], [MENTION=3044805]seth50k[/MENTION], and @ whoever else has the skills and knowledge.

The Pine stock ROM is available, and there other devices with Adreno 200 that are running later versions of Android (e.g. huawei).

I pledge to send USD $200 out of my own pocket to whoever manages to create a fully functional custom ROM for the Pine, based on Android 4.3 or later. .

If you can create a ROM based on lollipop, so much the better. If the effort is collaborative, we can figure out how to split the amount.

I realize that the amount is not a lot, but that's just my pledge. I call on all other Pine owners to join me in this: how much would you pledge to see the Pine updated so that it can reach its full potential? I have yet to see another smartwatch that can do half as much as the Pine can, or last as long as it does.

Who is up for it?

Cheers
[Other SmartWatches] BPM:
2 weaks ago i had told you that i would support this with 100EUR, but now i am happy with my AI-Watch (and i am shure i will see a ROM-update on it)
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
I have been trying myself to just find kernel code that will work when compiled to no avail. If I can find that, I may be able to build on it to eventually use the huawei base as a stepping stone. But we need to get even a base working kernel first.
[Other SmartWatches] Develo:
[MENTION=285804]BPM[/MENTION]

Does your eur€100 offer still stand?
[Other SmartWatches] BPM:
no. i think i will sell my pine in a few weeks (as soon as i am sure the AI-Watch is the best in my case)
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
Cyanogenmod 10 (4.1.2) for the Pine!

Well here it is!

Cyanogenmod 10 for the Neptune Pine!

I managed to port this one from the Huawei Ascend Y300 ^^

It's pretty stable for first build!

But...

It still isn't stable enough as a daily driver: It has a lot of FCs and the Pine tends to freeze sometimes.

Screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/pOB2Y#0

Latest version (b6): https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934533886

MD5: fa866be625304ea61c1409a94b908978

Previous Versions (only for reference):

b2: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934531932 (MD5: 2b41f77564aafcb736c5e43fbc65cfb0)

Used monx' Pre-rooted ROM as a base for this one, so thanks to him!

And thanks to the guy of the Original ROM (source: http://www.modaco.com/topic/365029-cyanogenmod-10-build-r15-021014/)

What works:

Touchscreen

Sound

Camera

Hardware Buttons

Apollo (CM's Music App, crashes when selecting an artist though)

DSP Manager

What doesn't:

Theme Manager (low priority for now, focusing on stability)

Statusbar (I think the cause is SystemUI crashing)

Changing Language & Input (FC)

Changing Performance Settings (has no effect when applying a different governor)

Browser

Untested:

Phone

Play Store (3rd-party apps)

a lot of other things...

I will not be responsible for any damage done to your device in any way

How to install:

1. Make sure you backed up all your data and have it ready to restore once something goes wrong

2. Put the ROM onto your SD Card (or skip this step if you want to use Sideload)

3. Turn off the pine

4. Turn it on with power + vol up

5. In recovery choose wipe

6. Slide to wipe (no advanced options required)

7.1 (Install ROM via SD) tap Install, browse to the location of the ROM on your pine, tap it, slide to install

7.2 (via ADB Sideload) tap advanced, tap ADB Sideload, use "adb sideload <location of the rom>" on your PC to install the ROM

8. After the install you should tap Wipe Cache/dalvik

9. Reboot

Important: First boot up may take a while and no Cyanogenmod bootanimation is present (have to find one for our screen size)

Versions b6 and up have a Cyanogenmod bootanimation

I also appreciate the help for finding the causes for the FCs :)
[Other SmartWatches] Develo:
First off, thank you for the efforts so far. It's really great to see some progress! Please keep up the good work!

[MENTION=3167937]shivam89[/MENTION] Could you please walk me through what you did? I'd like to understand and hopefully help out. Also, don't forget to upload!

[MENTION=1258762]bedwa[/MENTION] [MENTION=1062326]monx[/MENTION] If I understand correctly, this is CM10 based on 4.1.2. From the Pine chat group, [MENTION=3044805]seth50k[/MENTION] said this:

"Any Sprint Galaxy S3 kernels might help, too...its a Adreno 2xx device... Has KK roms...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2734994

ND8 KitKat source is posted on the opensource page..here comes KitKat with 3.4 kernel"

Will that help?
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Oh yeah, I gotcha. I just wanna show cool stuff, I don't really care if I have a fancy 2 minute intro or if people don't like my rather polite language. When I was looking at buying the Motoactv I was pissed at the serious lack of anything on it on youtube, I wanted to see more than just one video of it rooted for christ sake! So I bought one cause pshaw it's awesome anyways and decided to show everyone all the cool stuff it can do.

And rest assured I will be doing the same with the Omate Truesmart when I get it =D (got an October shipment one coming)
[Other SmartWatches] spinedoc:
Anyone else plan on using this as a standalone phone/device without the watch strap? I initially had my heart set on the Omate, but seeing as the radio antenna is in the watch band I'd never be able to remove it from there. I've always dreamed of a tiny little smartphone like this. Plus the screen is bigger with higher resolution, although the lack of water proofing is a downer.

What do you guys think of the root situation? It would suck if we couldn't get the play store in there, or even sideload apps. My finger is hovering over the pre order button though.

Also do you think the antenna will be decent, since it's not in the watch strap and the unit is pretty small I couldn't see any of the antennas being very long.
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Neptune Pine as of now the only Android smart watch with a front facing camera? I wonder why other manufacturers didn't build that in. I think it's awesome to be able to use video calling via Skype, Hangouts, etc. on a smart watch...
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yes, and because it makes it much much larger. It's about 1.5 times as wide as most others. Most of us don't have giant wrists lol.

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
Well, yes, I don't like its large size either. But I don't think it's so big because of the front facing camera.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
No PCB in the smaller (1.6") form factor supports two cameras. The Neptune Pine's does, but it's also a bigger PCB leading to a bigger watch. Probably next year you'll see a smaller one with a front facing camera as well, technology moves fast.
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
Uh, sorry, I totally didn't see that the Neptune Pine has two cameras. I thought it only had a front facing camera. But in that case, ya, of course it's bigger than other smart watches.

But personally, I could easily go without a rear facing camera. Don't need that in a smart watch. In my opinion, a front facing cam is much more useful for a smart watch.
[Other SmartWatches] ffinder:
Hey! Really like your Smartwatch Comparison page!

ClearDroid - Smartwatch Comparison

I think you should add a row about Camera LED flash

I think the neptune pine is the only one that both of it's cameras (Front & Rear) have LED flash . .

Tech Specs - Neptune Pine: Smartwatch

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---------- Post added at 02:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:57 PM ----------

Really hope they will offer the paid option to increase the Internal Memory to 1024 MB RAM.

NFC shouldn't be a problem if the user can insert an SD Card in Neptune Pine:

NFC SD and SIM Cards - NearFieldCommunication.org

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[Other SmartWatches] Jeff:
Neptune Pine to have Google Now

"Google Now

Google Now works great on the Pine. You can now ask your smartwatch questions like: "Do I need my sunglasses today?", or "What's Barack Obama's birth date?""

But they are going to be a bit later in shipments now with their certification worldwide, FCC, Canadian equivalences too, etc. I imagine.

I still have faith that I'll get this bad-ass on my wrist....

Greets.
[Other SmartWatches] insane5125:
Have you already ordered one?
[Other SmartWatches] ffinder:
kickstarter

.

There it is on kickstarter :^)

Click to see video:

Neptune Pine video @ kickstarter

Kickstarter official pine page:

Neptune Pine: Smartwatch. Reinvented.

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[Other SmartWatches] razgriz8426:
Just put in my $199 pledge. I've been waiting for something like this, the Omate is nice too, but I like how it's got the 3.5mm jack. To be honest, I'll probably use it as a phone more than a watch. I'm just worried about it reaching its pledge goal.
[Other SmartWatches] spinedoc:
Canadian kickstarter is up, can we pledge/purchase if we are in the USA ?
[Other SmartWatches] irkan:
I am thinking loud here..

Looks cool, but that is a small phone rather then a watch, it's too big to be called a watch imo.

Can't deny that it's awesome to have a fully fledged android on your wrist though.

But I strongly believe that by the time this product is matured a lot of smart watches will be out there (some better some worst), if this product gets matured fast, it might have a huge success, otherwise am afraid smartwatchs tech is moving too fast and the success of this watch will be eclipsed.

Kudos though for the people who are behind this bold project :)
[Other SmartWatches] |SavageD|:
@_@, maybe if it was a tad smaller I'd get it. At this point, it looks like it'll give me wrist cancer.