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[Other SmartWatches] DorkyDev:
But that's why I liked it! LoL.. Yea I just loosely classified it as a review, walk through or whatever.

We need more presenters with a IDGAF Attitude and not trying to be socially acceptable and politically correct, more so uhh adult rated real world look presentation. hahaha
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
To be different I guess. I personally like the minimizing idea that it presents.
[Other SmartWatches] :
You were being honest about ditching your phone for this? I mean, don't get me wrong it's cool.
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
110% With it having wireless tethering, I can always use a tablet worth it if I need a bigger screen.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
You need a sim if you are using it as a wrist cellular phone.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
The SIM card is for using the Pine's Phone function, on the GSM carrier network. If you currently have an android phone with a micro SIM card, you can simply remove it from your current phone, put it into the Pine, and now the Pine can make and receive calls, using your current phone number. When they release the CDMA version, the SIM card will be internal, and need to be activated by Verizon, Sprint, or another CDMA carrier. This is what makes the Pine different from other 'smart' watches on the market, it is a fully stand-alone device, and does NOT need to be the tethered to another phone to make and receive calls or connect to the Internet.
[Other SmartWatches] porzerwolle:
the Pine is a standalone watch, so fine, so good. Maybe it can replace your smartphone.

But there is an app called "SWApps Link" in playstore,created by Cyril Preiss, first for the Omate Truesmart (which I own proudly).

This app turns every standalone smartwatch, powered by Android 4.2, additionally to a smartphone companion.

There are functions like remote, call forwarding, call&SMS notification, phone's battery percentage, phone's GPS position.

The best: it works without bluetooth but over push notification instead.

Tested it today. Left my phone at home, but get all incoming calls and SMS notifications while the phone was miles away.

So I have a standalone AND companion smartwatch at my wrist.

Still can't hardly await my Pine because I'm a little bit p****d off by the small1,54" screen of the Truesmart....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.link&hl=de
[Other SmartWatches] :
Well, I hope the wait is worth it and reviews show it to be an awesome smart watch. I'm definitely interested in it.
[Other SmartWatches] porzerwolle:
SWApp Link has been updated. Music player control of phone via the smartwatch is now working. Supports 3rd party players. Tested it today and working fine.

Will be improved with with notifications of messengers like whatsapp, line and others.

The developer is working very hard and a genious.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrilp:
Thank you for sharing informations about my app :)

For information i have backed a Pine too ;)

Envoyé de mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] porzerwolle:
I'm sharing it also in several german smartwatch forums. Your app is so good that I want to know a lot of people about it.

Because its not related to a TS, I adore this app looking straight what the (smartwatch-)future will bring....:D
[Other SmartWatches] cyrilp:
You can follow SWApp Link dev on the G+ Community (almost a new feature every day)

https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/108675494963196634299
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Cyrilp,

Jope you can join us there at the Neptune Pine Chat both in FB page and proboards forum page.

:)

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] cyrilp:
Sure, could you give me the link ?
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
http://neptunepinechat.freeforums.net/

&

Neptune Pine Chat in FB (its a closed group so need your fb id to add you).....

Anyone care to join is there are highly appreciated too...come in guys...

;)

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] cyrilp:
here is my FB:

https://www.facebook.com/cyrilpreiss
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
I see you're a developer based on your signature...any plans on developing for the Pine once you get it?
[Other SmartWatches] randy2:
Cdma chipset

Does anyone know the final chipset and specs for the CDMA version Im on a mission to look for KITKAT drivers we need KITKAT due to the memory constraints but really we need android 4.5 but I cant speak on that.
[Other SmartWatches] flascrnwrtr:
I will see if I can get the info for you on Monday. I have one of the prototype Pines, so let me know what I can do to help you with this.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I would be interested to know as well. Do you have a CDMA prototype?
[Other SmartWatches] flascrnwrtr:
No, I have the GSM version.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Will you be making a review so we have some idea whether it is worth buying?
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Ronald why not join us in neptune pine chat page in fb? You can find reviews made by Brian Sieber.

If u havent that is..

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Thanks but I just don't do social media site. I am on Brian's forum but that may be slower to add content.
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Brian has been busy testing tons of apps..

I did mention about installing and testing Xposed and Xblast Tools to brian and he did it witiout any issues (for now).

In his review of the tool apps, i can see he already tweals a lot and personally i can say i am fully confident the resr will works..

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
That is all good to know, thanks. Can you ask him via FB to post this stuff on his boards?
[Other SmartWatches] randy2:
OK I have a tentative rom that needs to be reversed engineered based upon the closest chipset to the CDMA pine. If any rom makers are in this forum please get with me so I can send you the file that I believe is a perfect fit for the pine again I dont have the device so im shooting in the dark. But we will have 4.4.2 Kit KAT on the pine. sooner than later
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Will try copy n paste here when evrything gathered.

He has done many so far so hopefully there'll be more coming.

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Thanks! You do not have to post all of it at once. Maybe a few posts at a time would be easier to do?
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
Been waiting for the testing info to show up here, a bit cheesed it has been kept to a closed group. I could join, sure, but that is beside the point to me. The idea of giving a test device to use and review, to me, is to get the info out for ALL to see, and should be posted and linked in several places. Glad to hear someone is going to throw some of it up here, where the real work can begin...
[Other SmartWatches] flascrnwrtr:
Rudy, I am posting in the places that we agreed on. I have a pretty busy life, as we all do, so posting to a bunch of different places, because this person doesn't like this place and that person doesn't like that place is too much. I am already logging a ton of time testing apps, testing the Pine in everyday use, etc. A "closed group" simply means that you have to request to join. If that is too much effort, then I'm sorry. I have already had to deal with too many shenanigans on KickStarter's public forum, so sorry if I am a little soured. You had to sign up for FB, you had to sign up for XDA, you have to sign up for the Neptune Pine Chat forum ... but clicking "join" on the FB Chat page is too much. Sorry you feel that way.

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Ronald, I will work to get stuff updated on the forum tonight. That is easier to do from my Mac and I just haven't had the extra time. Look for it later tonight or tomorrow morning. I will post the pics, videos and the list of tested apps. The list simply tells if they download, install and seem to work/fit the screen. Sorry for the delay. You've no idea how much time I have put into this already.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Thanks for taking the time to load all of that data onto your site. I doubt I have much of an idea how much effort you have expended for our behalf.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
Brian: don't get me wrong, I'm not mad that you posted things into the FB group you had created, it made sense for you. I simply dislike the idea of it being a closed group, which I understand the reasons for, I do, but I just inherently dislike exclusion. As you stated, I have had to join many, many chats and groups during this and other KS projects, and I have no interest in joining yet one more. It's not you, it's me :) There are a few other reasons, which, for the sake of peace and harmony, I shall keep to myself. All of them are more conceptual than practical, ie it's the thoughts, the implications, not the actions that neccessarily bother me. I never said I was an easy to understand person ;) I am happy, however, to see the info crawl it's way here, whether it's you or someone else in the FB group that does it, is semantics, and gets my thanks. In this case, Brian, it's you. Thanks.

I have looked over the recent post in the chat forum as well, my thanks for that, also.
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Here are some things that i manage to copy and some screenshots easier for me to put here. Too busy.

This not much and still many to come from Brian reviews and tests.

......

The first pic was after Brian install Xposed & Xblast. Some tweaks from our friend there.

Its a great news since Pine easily be rooted less than 2 minutes and Xposed n Xblast runs flawlessly in it.

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] flascrnwrtr:
Yes, please know that nobody has been denied entrance into the group. There is only one person that I would even consider denying and that is because of his personal attacks.

Glad you like what you see. More to come.
[Other SmartWatches] randy2:
got a clockwork recovery and a test rom of CM

OK Im pissed but im over it NO CDMA, but I got over it. I got a clockwork recovery that should work I have no idea if it does i dont have a device but I do have a build of CM and a clockwork recovery but I dont have a device to test it on Get with me!
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Without a CDMA version I will not be getting one.
[Other SmartWatches] Smockingjacket:
Does this mean WCDMA is also cancelled?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
No the usual GSM bands will be there.
[Other SmartWatches] hackerse7en:
does it have fm radio?
[Other SmartWatches] mgk_pine:
No, it doesn't. Only via internet ....
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
Hoping to make a few kernel tweaks after source release.

Could I possibly get a link? Would love to hop over there.
[Other SmartWatches] seth50k:
The Pine officially supports: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900. UMTS/HSPA+/WCDMA 850, 1700, 1900, 2100.
[Other SmartWatches] markyboy81:
Tune in radio should work, which is pretty awesome
[Other SmartWatches] hackerse7en:
are you really sure about it, cause i wont buy cause of fm radio.
[Other SmartWatches] Smurgledorfcc:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1402693503315915/

Here ya go, the Neptune Pine Chat Group
[Other SmartWatches] mgk_pine:
Yes, i am quite sure. See the specs on the neptune pine homepage.

There is no fm antenna inside.
[Other SmartWatches] theoppositeman:
Thanks to smurgledorfcc...

Join us there too bedwa

We need devs like u there. Do mention your name aka bedwa there so we know you were there..

T28@HAM
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
I'm there. I'm not always the best, more on the tinkering side than super-dev, but I shall do my best. :)
[Other SmartWatches] mgk_pine:
FCC is done, shipping is starting 7.July, for non waterresistant pines. If the backers want it water-resistant they have to wait approx. Another 5-6 weeks.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
About time they finally started shipping. Awaiting the reviews.
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
I'm asking for mine now. I'm patient, but I was hoping to get it as a Birthday present to myself last month, I have ran out of my patience on waiting due the the FCC's dragging of their feet. I'll deal without water resistance... Even if I have to somehow coat every crevice with clear nail polish for a hacky water resistance myself. :)
[Other SmartWatches] Penguwin:
Sadly, I couldn't bring myself to do it... Waiting some more on the water resistance :( .

Enjoy your early one enough for both of us :) .
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
Most certainly will do. I plan on pulling the recovery partition as soon as I get it and using the clockworkmod builder to make a custom recovery for it, etc. Plus as soon as the kernel code is released, I hope to make a custom undervolt kernel, maybe with a little OC love as well. Battery gets taxed enough you know. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
If they did not cancel the CDMA version I would be getting impatient for mine about now.
[Other SmartWatches] Penguwin:
Best of luck! Looking forward to seeing what ya come up with! :)
[Other SmartWatches] vikemosabe:
I should have mine in a few weeks they tell me.

Opted for no water coating so as to get it sooner.

I've tried the Pebble, didn't do enough for me.

Gear v1, nice, but I got in trouble with my carrier for tethering to it. So now it's minimally useful.

Omate Truesmart, Not a fan of the company, nor the watch. If I could get it to do what I want I'd be ok, but meh.

I'm very much looking forward to the Pine.:D
[Other SmartWatches] vikemosabe:
Well, got mine yesterday.

So far I'm happy with it.

Got it rooted and put Play Store on it, works just fine.

Also, using SWApp Link and Notify My Android with the CloudNotifier tweak I am able to get notifications from both an android device and an iPhone simultaneously without even having a dedicated companion app.

I'm looking forward to using this over the next few days and see how it really fits in to my every day life.
[Other SmartWatches] rmk152:
Excellent news :).

Could you possibly check 3G/WiFi connection and let us know how the battery lasts and the battery temp. i currently have a Z2 smartwatch and the battery gets to around 43C using 3G/WiFi battery gets sucked :(

Also does the strap hold the watch securely, can it be knocked off by accident.

Thanks ;)
[Other SmartWatches] Penguwin:
Pics would be great too if you have some time ? .
[Other SmartWatches] vikemosabe:
I've posted some pics and a couple videos on the Pine Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1402693503315915/

Check them out!
[Other SmartWatches] ShawnnKushh:
its excellent!

it may stand out, but most outstanding products do. ive been asked so many times about it in the last 3 days its rediculous.

as far as performance goes, i dont have any lag, except occasionally after the screen times out and i turn it back on quickly. other than that its as smooth as my galaxy

i was under the impression that the play store and google now would be included, and when i got it there were minimal apps included.

and as of right now my headphone jack doesnt work but i haven been able to troubleshoot it yet

how did u manage to get the usb debugging enabled? the option isnt listed in my developers options
[Other SmartWatches] vikemosabe:
I've been using it on 3G all day..

Had to charge it once during the day, but won't know if bad battery life or I just used it a ton.

Don't know battery temp, but the unit never felt warm.

It's hard to remove the device from the strap, so it would have to be a substantial blow or something for it to come loose accidentally.

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I didn't.

I think it must be enabled.

I had trouble getting Kingo to recognize it until I plugged it into a different computer.

I saw a thread on the pine Facebook group where people are having driver issues, which is what I had trouble with for rooting.
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
For those not a part of the Facebook Group, there is a website by one of the guys in the group called Neptune Ninja that things are getting posted to. I'm contributing as I can through the Facebook page and some of it is being mirrored there.

If you have any questions, please feel free to post here as well as I'll be floating around both places. :)

Hoping to have a CWM port as soon as I can get source code downloaded. :)
[Other SmartWatches] abmx7:
Google contacts not showing!

I finally have my Neptune Pine!

I was able to install Google Play Store and root the device. (using Kingo Root app)

The Neptune Pine comes with the usb debugging enabled I believe. I had to select on my NP a different USB Connection option (Connect to PC) and manually install the adb drivers.

At first, the Google Play store was crashing, but after converting it to system app, it all worked well so far.

The problem I am having is that after adding my existing google account, my google contacts are not showing up!

Is anyone else having the same issue?

Can you guys test on yours?

Thanks!!
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
Try this method I created Here.

Please let me know how it goes. :)
[Other SmartWatches] abmx7:
It worked! :)

Yes!! It worked!! My google contacts are now showing up!!

I followed your guide, sideloaded the gapps and rebooted the watch.

Thank you!!
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
It is good to see Pines being delivered and its functionality enhanced.
[Other SmartWatches] ShawnnKushh:
I'm looking for help still..

For some reason I am still unable to get my device properly recognized by my computer,

I even restored windows back to my day one restore point, with no luck.

When I plug my device in, in device manager there are 4 android devices listed with the caution mark next to them.

I am able to use the other modes successfully like, USB storage mode, camera mode, or media mode, but still nothing is detected by kingo root.

When I try installing the drivers provided on neptuneninja.com these are the steps I take:

1.Plug device in

2.in device manager I uninstall anthing that appears upon connection(unknown devices and such)

3.then I go to the top bar and select action menu, and go to add legacy device.

4.try to select have disk, and install drivers manually from the download provided on neptuneninja,

5.at which point I'm provided 3 options, one is adb interface, composite adb interface, and something else. I select adb interface and it installs but states that the device cannot start code x10 or something like that.

Endpoint. Now one device shows as adb interface with a caution sign next to it, and lower on the like there are four android devices unrecognized listed.

Now.. I believe all this is because the USB debugging option isn't listed in developers options where it should be.

And on build version it says Neptune pine and when I click on it multiple times I'm presented with a half English half Chinese menu I can't understand, but I'm hoping USB debugging is hidden in there.. Or maybe someone can guide me thru manually enabling debugging somehow.

I'll post pics of all this so u guys can see and maybe tell me something about it.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
Send an message to Bedwa through the XDA message system, he is the resident expert and can probably help you through this ( and responds quite quickly, I might add). As has been stated before, de-bugging option isn't the problem, and should not be needed. I had to update the drivers on the computer I used for rooting before I was able to connect my Pine, and needed to use the USB storage mode instead of USB connect for mine to work. Also, this is my first android device and am a total noob and found the process to be nearly idiot proof, but this isn't to say you are doing anything wrong...there is bound to be people who have difficulties, sorry to hear you are one of them :( good luck, I'm sure Bedwa will be able to get you where you need to go. GL
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
Sorry, I was trying to reply earlier as I was going out the door and it didn't go well. I just got a chance to sit down at my netbook for this. My work Computer (Win 7 Pro) had little issue recognizing my pine in Connect to PC mode with only a Motorola driver installed. I would recommend installing the Universal ADB Driver By Koush: http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup6.msi and seeing if have issues with it in the "Connect to PC" Mode. If you do, feel free to reach out and let me know as we'll figure out something.

Alternatively you can download Framaroot, (http://xdaforums.com/apps/framaroot/root-framaroot-one-click-apk-to-root-t2130276) in portrait mode and choose Gandalf for the root method.

Again, I'm here and over on the Facebook thread, so let me know if you need me. :)
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
Does the Pine connect to the iPhone? For notifications etc cause I've seen Swapp link and it only supports connection to android according to their forum thread. I should receive mine this week and I'm really curious.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
I tried to pair mine using Bluetooth, but the Pine is not supported by iOS. Seems the two operating systems don't like to play well together. I'm far from an expert, especially when it comes to android, so others may have a better idea than I. I would like someone with more knowledge to answer this question, myself. But I would hazard a guess that the answer is 'no'.
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
I know of an app called Notifyr but that's iOS to Mac companion app (http://www.getnotifyr.com) so it is possible, you just need an app for this and an app for that for the iPhone for something to work *sigh*. I mailed the developer to maybe support android smarthwatches (as a suggestion).

Hopefully he'll consider doing it. I'm a programmer myself too (mainly for iOS) but I don't have that much experience, so I'll leave that to him to expand his app.
[Other SmartWatches] rmk152:
Ok just pre-ordered my pine, any ideas how long i will have to wait?? I appreciate all kickstarter backers should get theirs first. I read they were 6months behind scedule.
[Other SmartWatches] mgk_pine:
I think delivery not before November 2014 with the second production run in October. Most of the backers and the early pre-orderes will be satisfied just now ( delivry is running from the fulfillment centers.
[Other SmartWatches] RudeReality:
So, I have a noob question: is there any way to replace the clock on the lock screen with a clock widget of my choosing, or have the widget come up when the screen powers on? The only way I can currently display the clock of my choice is to have the screen always on, which zaps power. I would like to use the movement based screen-on option to conserve battery life. This option only displays the stock lock screen clock. Any ideas are much appreciated. At some point I will no longer be an android newbie, but as of now I'm still learning...

Edit: I am aware of apps that will allow the user to replace the lock screen from within a selection of choices within the app, this is not what I'm looking for...I would like to choose my own widget as my lock screen.
[Other SmartWatches] willbro:
Why no new Youtube videos?

I am perplexed. Every time a new phone or tablet or even other smartwatch comes out there is a barrage of reviews, tips, mods,etc almost immedeately. All you lucky new owners of the pine, why are you not making any videos to share? I and probably many others are left wondering??????
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
I will be creating one tomorrow! Mine arrived like an hour ago lol but really have to use it first a bit before creating a review .

I also got a prob btw, for some reason my pine saves everything to the 600MB Partition instead of the 16GB, how do I solve this? (swap the partitions maybe?) Also when creating a screenshot it comes out corrupt... or just empty (0kb)
[Other SmartWatches] bedwa:
You would have to do some fstab mods. I will release a zip to do that as soon as I have a working custom recovery created. I do think it's crazy that it counts a small partition as it's external SD.

Edit: I REALLY don't want anyone bricking their devices without an easy recovery method. That's why I haven't released alot more at this time.
[Other SmartWatches] shivam89:
Thanks for notfiying me that you're onto it! Meanwhile I got a "temporary" workaround which I posted on the "Neptune Pine Chat" facebook page, feel free to check it out as well :)