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[Android General] leobg:
Update on Nexus5 and appradio2: today I experienced significant lag in registering touch events, not sure if this applies to original pioneer app too, will try later

Couple of notes after this morning commute:

- Picture quality is considerably better than with the Nexus 4. I guess this is due to the proportional 16:9 resolution on N5. No more black bars at the side and Google Maps (old version 6) small streets are now distinguishable from the background as good as they are on the phone screen itself (yay!)

- N5 automatically disables fine location (GPS) when HDMI is connected. This could be bummer for those using ARU currently as navigation won't work with GPS disabled. I am sure though Area51 won't take too long before getting GPS data from AR unit fed into the phone as mock locations. I am using external bluetooth GPS (10Hz one for more precise location updates) and it works beautifully in my setup (phone's internal GPS isn't getting good reception anyway due to the placement of the phone in the car).

- N5 charges in AC mode from the SlimPort adapter - this is great as phone battery charges consistently up and pretty quickly at the same time, despite HDMI, navigation, music or whatever you may have going. Phone barely gets warm even with prolonged use (30+minutes). Not near anything I've seen from my N4 before (and that with charge losing USB charging mode). This is excellent - N5 can withstand any trip length without worry about battery charge.

I no longer use screen standby as it seems it does more harm than good (buggy on anything after 4.2). I am not too worried as phone barely heats up even with screen on and N5's display isn't (crappy) AMOLED prone to burn in (as with my Galaxy Nexus /end rant..).

The slow response thing I didn't experience anymore (it happened only once this morning on my short trip dropping kids at school).
[Android General] evillela2001:
This is great new. I have my N5 coming today. Can't wait. How hard/easy was the rooting process on it?

Thanks
[Android General] lpasq:
ARL forum user reports N5 fully working with AR2 for some and not for others. I am buried with work and school since my N5 arrived and can't properly experiment until weekend...sorry guys. They have no talk there of navigation bar not being accessible. Here is a premature ARU hypothesis that those with skills might prove/disprove: Maybe the N5/4.4 is more like phablet/tablet and/or Android Stick OS???

...further, some ARL users also report some HDMI signal issues and BT connection trouble...so, considering positive report from leobg, I am not focused on my initial phone crash issue and assume, for now, it was hardware or connection signal related.
[Android General] leobg:
As easy as stealing candy from a baby :)

Use Chainfire's Auto-root found here. You will be done in no time. You can use any of the toolboxes others put up together too.
[Android General] evillela2001:
Cool thanks for the info. Got tired of my S3. My power button gets stuck alot so the phone shuts off on its own.
[Android General] basmand:
Hi

Question, I still have this issue with my HDMI stick, every morning or afternoon when leaving my job, I turn on appradio, at once Bluetooth connection is establish between radio and stick, no problem that works, but the little android man is still grey and no android picture on the screen, then I close and restart Bluetooth connection and then. every things work, are there anyone that knows what to-do? Is it ARU that are in some kind of idle mode??? I have done this to solve issue:

Power on stick 24 hours a day just like a ordinary phone

In Bluetooth settings " never go to sleep"

Install Safe charge " are supposed to prevent android system from going to sleep"

been in all settings where it is possible to set never stop or go to sleep

UPDATE

System has now been up and running at least 2 and a half hour did a test tried to turn on my car appradio and stick connected and ARU did its job and the android work on the screen, so apparently my close down over night time is at least more than the mention time

Basmand:confused:
[Android General] keeper22:
The first thing I did was clear root permissions, data and cache for ARU. This let me connect again. Then I set up a Tasker profile to turn on Bluetooth and ARU when I plug in HDMI and to shut down ARU and bluetooth when I disconnect my HDMI cable. It has worked 100% of the time if I plug it in in the first couple minutes of turning on the app radio.

Now I am trying to get Bluetooth to auto connect if I plug it in after the first couple minutes. I have not had much luck with the app Bluetooth Auto Connect (but I'm still working on it).
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Hi, can u please share ur tasker info for this profile?

i also use tasker but with an intent from screen standby , since screen standby dont work i would like to know how u set it up.

thanks :)
[Android General] keeper22:
I still use the intent from Screen Standby but I don't turn off the screen. I have had on and off luck with screen standby, I hope it gets ironed out soon. (seems like he's close)
[Android General] tragictramp:
xperia z1

I just had a five minute attempt of getting this working with my new xperia z1, i got it all setup and had to activate it by pressing some dots on the appraio screen, it then was fully mirrored and looked great, attempting to reconnect it has somehow lost the functions of the appradio touchscreen, everything is mirrored perfectly, music play vids etc, but only via the xperia z1 touchscreen.

Anyone had this issue?, their seems to be a lot happening when it connects, the xperia z1 detects the appradio as a tv to mirror to, appradio then kicks in but no touchscreen.

It looks good better than when i got my jailbroken iphone 5 connected, but the iphones back connected for now.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Do u have touche in the appradio mode by itself? i mean fire up the app, let it connect untill u see the appradio screen, before u click close app and go to full mirroring....

when u file up the app do u see "Appradio Unchained"?

Have u tried to clear ARU data and do the connection again?
[Android General] tragictramp:
appradio unchained opens up automatically after it has found the connection, I havent cleared the aru data yet, will give it a go and see if that sorts it.

cheers
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the report. I didn't want to buy the Nexus 5 as I just got the Nexus 4 in march but now I am tempted. Anyway, will wait a bit.

You are right about the HU GPS. I still expect to have a first version available somewhere next week.

Some more statistics: there's now 1000+ downloads of ARU.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Thanks to ARU, Pioneer Sales went up :)
[Android General] lookylookitzadam:
everything seems to be working fine with my sprint sgs3 and appradio2. Althought I couldnt test pandora because ScreenStandby is still killing my data connection. I will uninstall that and test with pandora for streaming, but overall looks good. Connection is better and quicker than ARLiberator.
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes, by one. You bought the AR3 because of ARU.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Oh i am sure more then just by 1 :)

Due to ur insane support and assistance i dont see the need to ever upgrade my HU again in the car....

the AR3 got every feature known right now. Untill they put an ARadio with blue ray player i do not see any reason to upgrade the HU.

i can just keep upgrading my phone and as long as ARU support my phone i will be a happy camper....

i guess the only "complaint" i have is the battery frain my our phones when using MHL....

i tried the PTV3000 by netgear and the samsung allshare.... both were not good enough, the lag and the flakiness was too much for me....

flashed a fast charge kernel but it is still not as best as i would have liked....
[Android General] Area51©:
ARU GPS Injector demo

It's kinda working so here's a short demo video.

ARUnchained GPS Injector demo
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
oh oh oh release release release

JK

Thank you for the video, i am happy to see such great progress !! this is great news :)
[Android General] iamflamez:
I just tried this on my brothers s3 but every couple minutes the music keeps stopping, and have to tap play again, any ideas?
[Android General] leobg:
Update on my findings from this morning: Nexus 5 does not disable GPS when HDMI is hooked up. It works just fine. What happened was I was trying ARL (as somebody claimed it is working, which btw isn't true, at least doesn't work any better than with N4 which is, maybe, connects one in 10 times..) and ARL screws up precise GPS until reboot.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Hi, i got a question... when u use pandora with the AR3, are u also connected to the cable or only BT?
[Android General] tragictramp:
just a quicky, does this need root access as i had it working temporarily without?
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
you MUST have root to be able to use ARU.... the original appradio app from play store does not require root.

but app radio unchained MUST have root to function with features
[Android General] nfaust01:
What slim port adapter are you using? I just hot a nexus 5 myself.

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You for sure need a slimport adapter. I just asked another member what one he is using as he said it worked.
[Android General] leobg:
Nice, can't wait to start using it!

How often you update the location? 1Hz or more often?

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Touch coordinates appear to get shrunk to the right up to the nav bar. Leftmost end registers accurately while rightmost shifts exactly by the width of the nav bar. I'm pretty sure I've calibrated screen properly upon first connection. I wonder if you could somehow address this issue without N5 on hand, for example trying KitKat port on your N4, or if I can somehow help? I'm pretty sure that's KitKat introduced issue. I remember there was issue addressing nav bar during initial ar hack, no?

BTW, not to pour more fuel in that burning fire, but Nexus 5 is considerable improvement over last year's nexus 4 ?
[Android General] Area51©:
As often as the HU sends it. I didn't measure it exactly but it's about once a second so indeed 1Hz.

I will finish the GPS first then I will look into this. The original app limits the screen to the application area without system bars. Part of my hack was to remove this limitation. I did it the most simple way so that I didn't have to change the calibration also. But for tablets the original calibration doesn't work correctly in the first place and my hack doesn't fix that. I imagine it's something similar with KitKat. Apart from the nav bar not being reachable, does touch register correctly at the right most reachable part of the screen?

I could add some things to the logging so it would be possible to get more info from what's happening on your phone.

No, that was something that I had to hack.

I can still resist buying one, but don't know for how long;)
[Android General] Plasmah:
Only BT no cable used.

Thanks
[Android General] leobg:
Ugh, 1Hz is kinda sluggish, but better than nothing, I realize it is not something that ARU can change anyways. It is what it is.

Touch registers up to the very rightmost part of the screen, I'll see if I can get a video with some touch test app so you see yourself.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
In that case the functionality work as designed. Ar3 is designed to have Pandora work only while in appradio mode connected. Therefore unless u are also connected via cable (or wireless HDMI) the Pandora icon will stay grayed out and u will only stream music via BT audio but will not see on the screen. Connect the cable and then u will see everything in the ar3 Pandora built in app
[Android General] rs2k:
My nexus 5 is working very well with ARU. Stock 4.4 ROM and kernel rooted it's even charging slightly when on the slim port. The only problem I've run into is that I cannot use the three nav buttons on the right of the phone. I was able to with the nexus 4 because the screen was shorter. This is easy enough to get around since the radio's hardware buttons provide the same functionality except for the recent apps button.

The wireless hdmi adapter I was using was working great for the first few days. It now will often break up and stutter and disconnect. I think I need to find a higher quality adapter.
[Android General] Area51©:
In 4.2.x it's possible to enable show touches and show cursor location in the developer options. I assume that's still possible in KitKat. Please do so.
[Android General] mattdb:
When ever I connect play music thru ar3 mode and not bluetooth audio, it sounds muffled. I have tried all different kinds of sound mixing.

How are you all listening to say, slacker or google play on these units? It works fine in bluetooth mode, but as soon as hit the mode button on my AVH-X8500BHS the audio changes?
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
When in appmode click on volume up it will open a small menu where u can see"mix mode" click n that and change the audio source to Bluetooth audio. That will fine u the ability to listen to Bluetooth audio while in app mode. For Pandora connect the cable clock in the home button on the head unit and then chose Pandora app icon. For regular Bluetooth audio u don't need to be connected in app mode via cable. Just connect BT and click on the BT icon n the head unit main page
[Android General] mattdb:
Thx for the reply. Just tried it and I don't get a small menu anywhere.
[Android General] leobg:
Yes, forgot we could use show touch events, thanks! So here is quick video I took that shows what's going on with touch event registration.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
When you click to adjust the volume you do not have a menu like this??
[Android General] mattdb:
Nope nothing like that. I have the AVH-X8500BHS. there is a setting for app sound mixing and it is either off low med and high. Seems to just control the volume.

I just see the volume number.
[Android General] Area51©:
Right, not that much going wrong. Might be as simple as detecting wrong physical screen size.

I can see the detected screen size from the logcat.

Can you do the following?:

- Force stop ARU.

- Follow instructions in FAQ to make a logcat.

- Start ARU.

- Send me the logcat.
[Android General] hoops129:
Has anyone connected an Appradio to external amps? It seems there are only 4 pre-outs. So you can either connect 2 speakers and a sub, or 4 speakers. How do I connect 4 speakers and a sub?
[Android General] leobg:
Logcat sent. It reports 1920x1080 which is the actual screen resolution, unless it should account for the resolution without the nav bar area - 1776x1080?
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
OHHH u have the AVH-X8500BHS??? i thought u have the AR3... i kept saying AR3 lol....

thats a completely different thing.... i do not have the AVH-X8500BHS.... :(
[Android General] evillela2001:
I have mine connected to a 5 channel amp. I just used y-splitters on the amp end to feed signal to all 4 front speaker channels then the sub goes straight onto the sub channel. Works fine and sounds good.
[Android General] HerbX:
Tap on SYSTEM -- App Connection Settings --- And change from Iphone to Others!

Had the same issue but now it works!
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes, it's actually correct. My code detects the actual screen resolution perfectly. So unfortunately it's not an easy fix.
[Android General] mikek753:
I have x8500bhs as well

I can't figure out ether :confused:

If I set mixing to off I can get stereo from phone and volume control for the phone, but it cut off radio and SD music that I'd like to have in background.

The low, mid and high looks the same - not sure what diff there at all :confused: , but those provide background music from selected source while in app mode, but no volume control for the phone.

any ideas?
[Android General] stargate125645:
Did anyone ever answer just exactly the functionality of Google voice search with AR3? I have yet to see confirmed statements that it actually lets applications use the AR3 microphone and not simply the phone microphone still (which people mistakenly assume is the AR microphone but really is just a super sensitive phone microphone). It's not worth upgrading to the AR3 from the AR2 if that feature doesn't work 100% without special Pioneer applications.
[Android General] Sean_S:
I forgot to post about this, but I cannot get it to work either. When I set Voice to use Bluetooth it doesn't work at all. Since the Bluetooth mic on AR works with GPS apps, maybe it is something ARU Dev can address.
[Android General] kachaffeous:
So got my Appradio 3 came in and got the install mostly done. It is so awesome, many thanks. Still waiting for my bypass switch and antenna adapater other than that everything runs smooth.

Now just need to tweak and learn everything. Is this going to be a paid app when it leaves beta?

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How do you test it? I played with google voice, not sure how to isolate which mic it uses though.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Most likely. Area did a fantastic job and insane amount of hours. He deserve it to be paid app. Maybe he can consider giving a license to those who donated:) but even if not I'll buy it rather then downloading a hacked apk.... This one deserve it imo
[Android General] kachaffeous:
That is what I was leaning towards, would hate to donate now and have to pay again later. This program is the only reason I bought the radio.
[Android General] papa3r:
I have avh-x8550bt

Audio mix can set on HU menu...

MIX On (Low/Mid/Hi)....its will only control HU volume....

MIX Off...when in the app mode, volume will only control the phone

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yes...

Or use 4 chanels amps with sub pre out...so we can use separate sub amps:D
[Android General] lpasq:
tonight, i used my N5 for the second time since getting it tuesday. plugged into slimport and no hdmi. that issue was fixed by replacing slimport with a spare. that is the second fried slimport in six months. other that the known issues prevalent across devices, only the soft nav button / resolution display issue is major. soon after calibration completed (white dots), kitkat dumped a bug report without any prompt from me (other than having developer options active in system settings). i'll pm it to area51 since t may prove useful in some way.

ok...now my opinion of the N5 vs my daily driver N4 and ARU/AR3: i am stock rom with the first ota applied...supersu rooted. i have not played with voice activation yet. the hu pandora and bt ad2p connect is super quick and works fine. the connections to aru have worked 10 out of 10 attempts during brief garage testing. my routine was > phone bt on > connect to slimport > turn car ignition on to power hu. i also turned the car power off twice without disconnecting phone from slimport, left phone bt on, restarted car power and the hu synced both times to aru. too bad about the screen calibration trouble now simulating what occurs on 4.2 and 4.3 phone roms running a phablet or tablet ui. i'm going to retire my N4 regardless. the N5 is really a much better device in my estimation. i can't say if it is hardware or software or firmware...but combined with gadget-geek placebo effect it makes for a device that i think, finally, is a a leap for android. not since the N1 could is say that. then it was the N1 that leaped past the HTC Magic which was the second android dev phone after the original G1.

area51, please buy an N5. your app should always baseline work on Nexus devices. here's my donation to start your fund: Confirmation number: 8FK77515N9116072V
[Android General] leobg:
Ipasq, it is no plasebo ?, the N5 is a beast! I'm glad I was able to score mine during the first wave ☺.
[Android General] Area51©:
It's a good thing I never really counted the hours but I think it's at least 200.

I can't put the hacked apk in the play store (copyright stuff) so the full app will never be there.

The plan is that the GPS injector will be a separate program that will be in the play store.

I was thinking to ask 5$ for it but as Google takes 30% I am now thinking to charge 6.99$ which I think is still reasonable considering the amount of hours I spent on it and that it will never be a mass product. I think at the most 1000 people might purchase it. Also take into account that ARL costs 35$ and doesn't work with AR3.

The plan is also that all people who donated 10$ or more will get a free license so that you don't have to pay twice. Actually less than 30 people donated. Considering that there's now 1100+ downloads, the donation rate seems a bit low. Another reason to charge a bit for the GPS. If everybody pays a bit I am happy to keep you happy by providing support.
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the donation (again). I am probably gonna get one, once easily available here. The N5 is still scarce here which shops take advantage of by raising the price. There's no Dutch play store so we can't buy Google hardware directly. Also in the various other EU play stores we have to pay the same price in euros as you pay in dollars, which is already higher.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Thank you! Appreciate all the hard work
[Android General] mattdb:
A very large ditto. come on people donate.....less than 30.....????? If use something more than just few times, i always try to as i appreciate the hard work and hope for more updates
[Android General] lpasq:
If having it bought for you in US and shipped is an option, let me know and I can help out with transactions. PM when ready. I will watch for when inventory builds back up here.
[Android General] Area51©:
Thanks for the offer. Unfortunately the LTE bands of the US and EU model are different so it would be better to get the EU model otherwise it would be great.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Hi area. Is it possible to change the recognition method for rotation locker from Bluetooth to mhl connected while appradio connected? Reason why I'm asking is cause I have aru process always running and sometimes I just wanna listen to BT audio without having my screen auto rotate.... I personally fixed this by using tasker to fc aru whenever mhl is not connected and launch the app when is. But I'm sure not all users have or know how to use tasker.....
[Android General] Area51©:
Yes that would be possible. It just requires a bit more hacking to find a suitable point to add it. It is already on my list of things to do after GPS is implemented.
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Awesome! Can't wait for next version. GPS implementation will also help battery life a lot !!! Which we all know is one of the biggest issues with appradio.... Sadly screen standby is still not working and the future not looking bright....
[Android General] leobg:
I will definitely buy the GPS plugin, despite I have donated. I think you have put way more than enough efforts and time into this and I want to make sure this does not go unappreciated.
[Android General] lpasq:
screen standby doesn't work at all with n5 4.4...at least not for me. good news is that my n5 today, on a 45-min drive connected with aru, running play music radio, screen on, kept full charge and actually showed a gain of +200mA with stock kernel. i do have my slimport connected via an EDO Tech microUSB hardwire 12V~24V, 5V, 1200mA
[Android General] m.a.s.e:
Im very interested to have some now details on ur rig for 12-24v 1200ma setup. I would wanna do something like that on my car. I hate the pioneer kit with such low power. I am using fast charge kernel that tweak it to 1000ma charge via mhl but I would like to so a more reliable power source if I can. Whenever u get the time I will appreciate it :) .
[Android General] Sean_S:
Documentation on the pioneer site show the adapter outputs 1A from the white "power box", as it is connected to the radio's 12v lead. I should think you would get at least 900mA.