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[Moto X General] laydros:
This will work with LTE or Wifi, but not with CDMA 3G.

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I'm an employee of bandwidth, the company that owns republic wireless. I haven't really seen anything here I can clarify further. I have been told to expect 4.4 in the first quarter of next year, and the camera update that made things so much better on other carriers a few weeks ago shipped with the phone. I asked one time about people being able to unlock the phone to use with other carriers, and was told they had worked to make that difficult. They won't even allow unlocking the SIM to use overseas.

We actually got to be part of some Motorola partner plan, and got free phones. I have been loving mine, and just noticed something interesting. My box and bluetooth name say XT1049, but the back of my phone says XT1056. I know the phones Moto gave us were set aside from the stock that was shipped to customers, I'll have to ask other people this week if their hardware is marked the same.

For those of you that ordered from republic, is your SIM a standard Sprint SIM?

If anyone has questions, I can try to answer them in an unofficial, don't-want-to lose-my-job way. For the most part I don't know anything that isn't publicly known, I work on the side of the company that provides phone service, and republic is really just an internal customer. But I'm enough of a phone nerd I ask questions at work when I can. I certainly don't speak on behalf of my employer. But the phone is great, Sprint isn't great, but I think republic is doing great things to change a pretty messed up market.
[Moto X General] joesee:
All Unlocking/rooting aside, I would LOVE to find a clear answer on which radios and bands are in this version XT1049 and which bands are locked out. I'm curious if the XT1049 only operates LTE on the 1900MHz band or the 800MHz band as well since it's the newer band Sprint is deploying in my area (Dayton, OH). I have 20 days left to decide if the terrible EVDO coverage that's draining my battery considerably (When even the RW rep told me I was in a Good/Fair location) is cause enough for me to return and just go with a Nexus 5 on another prepaid carrier. Right now my Android OS consumes over 40% of the battery just messing with signal strength. It will be at -81dBm.. 30 seconds later it completely drops out to -125dBm, then comes back right around -80dBm.. and it's a cycle every 60 seconds or so. The Android OS usage issue drops below 3% if you disable the 3g radio (airplane mode and leave wifi on).

Any thoughts?
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Like the other poster said, only on LTE or Wifi. Sprint's LTE network is hilariously small so I didn't pony up $40 + tax and fees for it. I had the $25 plan. No simultaneous voice/data.

I guess I just have come to appreciate the dual functionality on GSM networks on HSPA+/LTE. It's fantastic to look up something while on a call or respond to an email, etc. I didn't realize how much I relied on this functionality until I went CDMA. It annoyed me so much that I went back to prepaid GSM.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
I'm still kinda shocked at how quickly the Moto X loads webpages on such a slow .5-1.5 mbs connection. One thing thats a little annoying is a lot of the time if you scroll up wait a couple seconds and scroll down there is a one second of lag rather then the normal silky smooth scrolling I normally see... anyone else notice this?

This might sound odd but I found myself sticking my hand in my pocket and just enjoying the soft texture back and little motorola dimple on my Moto X... yea thats odd :o
[Moto X General] ryude:
I'm getting abnormally high Android OS battery drain, almost 50% of my entire battery life. I did a factory reset and double checked to make sure no apps are installed, it still does it.

Anyone else experiencing this?
[Moto X General] Cronis:
hmm not sure... my phone is sitting at 34% OS with the next highest being 23% for the screen. I assumed that was just because I did not have the phone on a whole lot today (50 mins of screen on time 11 hours on battery with 63% battery remaining).

I heard rumors that phones "settle in" for a bit after you get em, with a steadily increasing battery life during that time period. Not sure if this is just the charge/discharge battery cycle wives tale or if its actually the OS getting used to your particular usage pattern (in which case resetting the phone would not help). Do you keep battery saver on? Not sure exactly what it does but the thing doesn't seem to effect my perceived performance.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Yeah battery saver is on. Before charging, the phone was at 17% battery with 1hr 15min screen on time. Total battery time was 1d 0hrs. Android OS was keeping awake 18hrs of that time.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
hmm yea your keep awake is way longer then mine... mines almost exactly the same as the screen on time. I do need to setup my always on/google now thingy though. That could be a major variable.
[Moto X General] kregerator:
I'm thankful to everyone posting here on the pluses and minuses. Decided to take the plunge and give it a shot myself. With a 30 day trial, the risk is low. I'm hoping the coverage in my area works out well enough.
[Moto X General] Pfhortune:
Not sure how my stats compare. Though I did restart the phone a couple of times yesterday.
[Moto X General] ryude:
That's looks close to mine. I guess that's just the way these work? Due to using WiFi for calls/texts, maybe the wifi never actually sleeps?
[Moto X General] laydros:
I'll try to ask around about the bands on the phone, but I expect it is only on the 1900MHz band. Other than the fact that Motorola did give the Republic Moto X it's own model name, I have no reason to believe this phone has any differences at the hardware level from the Sprint version.

In my experience with Sprint, bad coverage will nuke a battery. The good news is it seems like there are places that will kill my battery on CDMA that LTE is available, and the battery hangs in there better. But I have still had 2 occasions I have seen the battery on my republic Moto X plummet due to bad CDMA coverage, so it will happen.

Good luck.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Hmm not sure if wifi sleeps or not, seems like we would see a massive drain on the battery if it didn't. you could always do a test run for a day and leave it off (only use sprints network).

What is interesting is I noticed that my phone disconnects from the mobile network when I'm connected to wifi. Wonder if thats a battery saving feature since it knows I will be getting calls/txts through wifi we don't need the mobile network. Going to go dig up some of the old Moto X battery threads and see what they get on the "normal" Moto's.
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
Has anyone here gotten a system dump from the Republic version? I'm working on a ROM for it that keeps Republic's fixes, but I need a system dump to pull those from. If anyone could send it to me, I would greatly appreciate it.
[Moto X General] ryude:
OK! I figured out what was causing my battery drain. Please pass this information on, as I know others who experience this same thing.

Motorola Assist will constantly turn on the GPS to check your location for driving. Disable this.

Rebublic Wireless will also constantly check GPS when "Activity Recognition" is turned on. Disable this.

With those both disabled, my wakelock has been solved!
[Moto X General] preachrman007:
Thanks! I've been suspecting that my drain was due to being in a spotty Sprint area. Turning on Airplane Mode, then WIFI on seemed to help, but I'll try this too. I turned off the "Driving" option in Moto Assist, but where is the "Activity Recognition" option? Is that in Moto Assist as well? I don't want to turn off everything because I like the "Sleeping" option.
[Moto X General] PJnc284:
It's in the Republic Wireless app under Settings.
[Moto X General] jgolf:
I like to use the stock power control widget and keep on m home page. Its kind of ugly, but its easy to keep location services toggles off, and I imagine that would block GPS and apps that use GPS from starting.

Is it okay to disable "Motorola Assist Talk to Me" as well?

I also tried tried to disable "Motorola Assist Engine," but that restarted when I rebooted.

Are there any other Motorola apps that can be disabled.

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One thing I find odd about my RW Moto X is at home dBM singal indicator is outstanding with dBm 70-80 but asu 4. Improves if I put next to window with asu 8 (and dBM is goes to mid 60's). does this seem odd. I thought low dBm (which is excellent) would result in a high asu.
[Moto X General] ryude:
dBm is - (negative). Therefore the higher the number, the better.

Example: -60dBm is higher than -90dBm.
[Moto X General] jgolf:
Thanks. Okay I see the negative sign. But asu doesn't look to be negative value. Works it be odd to have a great dBm and a poor asu, like 75 dBm and 4 asu?
[Moto X General] ryude:
ASU is a formula based on the signal strength in dBm. It actually means Arbitrary Strength Unit. Basically it's another variable a developer can refer to in his/her programming.
[Moto X General] 2disbetter:
I'd like to chime in here, and share my experiences. I was wary of joining Republic Wireless because they don't permit tethering. (Based on what their priorities and goals are, I can respect this decision for the time being. I expect it to change in the future.) Coming from AT&T and using a LG Optimus G. The Optimus G was and still is an amazing phone. THere was absolutely no need to get a new phone. If RW would have permitted BYOD I would have in heart beat.

I had however heard a lot fo good things about the Moto X, and the fact that Motorola focused on the phone being comfortable and useful to use really appealed to me. It seems that all of the flagship phones today just don't care that their huge as a house. If I could get a flagship phone the size of a iPhone 4 or even 5 I would be overjoyed. The Moto X is a step in this direction. Being a hardware geek, and Android developer, I was intrigued by the Moto X's unique chipset.

I have been impressed with the Moto X big time. Very happy with the phone. Motorola knocked this one out of the ball park. All the gushing aside for the Moto X, I'll give RW some serious credit. Sprint service is good here, and my experience has been stellar. For me there has been 0 loss of qaulity in service as compared to AT&T which is also seriously great signal wise. Battery life has been phenomenal. I have not experienced any of the GPS sapping power issues mentioned earlier in this thread. (I turn off location and the like immediately with every phone I get.)

The biggest thing about the Moto X I really like is the Active Notifications. The one thing about them I absolutely hate is the vibration from unlocking that can't be disabled (All though the update to 4.4 was supposed to be rumored to resolve that or Motorola is working to patch it.) That aside the ability to turn my phone's screen on and off without using a hardware button is perfect. Why phones haven't attempted to do this earlier is beyond me, it makes so much since. On top of that the notifications acctually help and are very useful. No longer do you need to turn your phone completely on just to see if you got an email/text/IM whatever. You can 'peek' if you will, and this saves battery life. It's fantastic.

The Ok Google Now is spotty, and I find that the way I say it has to be perfect or it doesn't register. Also if you are in a room with any other voices, this GREATLY dimnishes the ability to use this feature. Still the idea is nice, and I imagine it will only improve.

Over all seriously great phone! And seriously great carrier!
[Moto X General] jgolf:
I don't like the vibration either. I'm impressed worth phone and service as well. All A+ but I have good Sprint towers here. One of the few things I dislike is how phone automatically turns on wifi and mobile data if i have it toggled off.

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I don't want to hijack thread with this issue, unless relevant to the RW Moto X, but wouldn't it be a bit odd to have -75 dBm and 4 asu. Wouldn't asu be higher (better) with such good dBm?
[Moto X General] ryude:
ASU differs depending on the connection you are using. UMTS, GSM, and LTE all have different formula's for ASU. So you may have been connected to LTE in one instance and then on UMTS in another.
[Moto X General] 2disbetter:
It doesn't on my phone. I use power toggles to disable wifi all the time (as wireless signals are not permitted in my place of business, etc.). I also use airplane mode a lot as well. I've never experienced it turning wireless on without me first turning it on.
[Moto X General] jgolf:
You don't ever get the message in your taskbar "Wi-Fi settings updated" out of the blue on its own and then you notice wifi has been enabled? At start-up definitely wifi is always enabled even if I had it toggled off at shutdown. Mobile data won't start-up enabled if I had it toggled off at shutdown, but it will auto-enable on its own if I toggle off wifi. All of this might just be at start-up.
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
Quick question: Has anyone unlocked the bootloader on this thing yet?

It's kinda funky the way they designed it, but with a few back-door hacks it shouldn't be impossible.

If anyone has gotten it, please share. If not, I have an idea, but I'll need someone to try it for me (I need my phone as usable as possible and I don't want to lose my data)
[Moto X General] 2disbetter:
Startup does do that. It is intentional. Given Republic Wireless's policy on wifi use it is not unexpected, and doesn't bother me at all because I can just disable it when necessary. However if you disable wifi and don't restart, it stays off until you re-enable it.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Disable "Activity Recognition".
[Moto X General] jgolf:
I have the box unchecked under settings in the RW app. Is there somewhere else to disable?
[Moto X General] ryude:
No that should be it. That's what turns on/off your wifi/mobile data automatically. If you have it turned off, it shouldn't do that anymore.
[Moto X General] 2disbetter:
I haven't observed it down at the source code level or anything but I never seen that behavior myself. I have that enabled and it respects my wireless configuration. (ie: doesn't turn wifi on if I have it off.) I've also never had any battery drain as a result from it being enabled. Just throwing that out there.
[Moto X General] Eckyx:
Hi all! Got my phone 2 days ago and wanted to report in on my experiences. First off, I came from a Galaxy S2 on AT&T so it's my basis for comparison. Additionally I realize the battery may not be calibrated yet, and I'm still figuring out my usage patterns.

I'm hugely impressed with the build quality and feel of the phone. I'm reminded strongly of my old OG Droid in a good way. There are some nice software features too, as have already been mentioned in this thread. I'm currently test driving the $10 per month plan and am thus far happy with the call quality and handovers.

Some thoughts and criticisms;

Some of Republic's features (and Motorola's for that matter) seem rather battery unfriendly. After 2 years of use I am now down to only around 4 hours of screen-on time per charge on my S2, and I haven't had much better than that with the stock settings so far on the X. My wife has recorded up to 6 days on a charge with her S2 with very light usage (a few brief calls, couple of texts, manual refresh of her weather widget) and I doubt I can get anywhere near that without disabling a lot of location based features.

Driving mode is nice, but wasn't the point of the custom silicon to be able to do things like that, and Republic's activity recognition, without killing the battery? Even without an active data connection I seem to have a ton of wake locks.

Any suggestions on battery saving features or easy eliminations of wake locks? I just loaded BBS to help find the worst offenders.

I'm feeling cautious about rooting my phone within the return/warranty period because parts are not user replaceable. Over the life of my S2 I replaced my camera module and USB charge port PCB for a grand total of $12. If anything goes wrong with the X I probably will need to buy an entirely new phone. Worth it, considering Republic's pricing, but I'm going to sit out my month's warranty before tinkering.

I have been unable to play music off of external storage. I had to cut my mobile music library down significantly, any tips or ideas?

Is there a way I'm missing to edit the number of home screens on the stock launcher?
[Moto X General] glarepate:
Haven't been through the entire thread to see if anyone has responded to your post, so this may have already been addressed.

CDMA carriers allow access to their networks based on IMEI. Any RW phone will be identified as a non-Sprint (or non-Verizon) handset and the carrier won't let you use it natively on their service, contract or no contract.

With GSM phones the SIM has the info that grants access to the network. The Sprint/Verizon/RW phones have a SIM slot and the Verizon and Sprint phones can be used with GSM carriers outside the US. But with the RW phone all it does is control your connection to LTE equipment.

Moto X FAQ
[Moto X General] jumphour:
I use a Meenova card reader as external storage, and the path to find my files on it is Device/storage/usbdisk_1.1.1

I use ES File Explorer, MoboPlayer for movies, and Poweramp for music, and just point those to that path, and it plays my files fine. I use a 64GB SanDisk microSDHC card in the Meenova. Hope that helps. And I use Nova Launcher, because you can't change the amount of homescreens on stock.
[Moto X General] kregerator:
Just got my moto x today and working to set it up. I've noticed a flicker on the screen as if the refresh rate on an old CRT monitor was set too low. Has anyone else experienced this or have any ideas?
[Moto X General] Pfhortune:
That sounds like a defective unit :( you need to contact RW for a replacement.
[Moto X General] jgolf:
No flicker here or anything remotely like it here since I got mine about a week ago.
[Moto X General] kregerator:
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Bummer.
[Moto X General] ryude:
I've never noticed any flicker on my RW Moto X. Good luck with your replacement.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
Here is a link to the FXZ that can be used with RSDkite to restore back to stock. That should have what you are looking for. I used it last night to return to stock because of some things I screwed up on the rom and it worked perfectly!

Moto X FXZ's
[Moto X General] ejlmd:
Link didn't come through in your post.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
Whoops I forgot to post it, haha. I edited my post with it but here it is again.

Moto X FXZ's
[Moto X General] raiderep:
Thanks for the confirmation that this does what I'd hoped. I found it on another site and was waiting for someone else to go first with it :p
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
I was a little worried but I decided to go for it and it worked great!
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
it looks like there is an official dump here

http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php

I have no idea how they got that with no recovery. Id be suspect of it until someone confirms.

How are you working on a custom ROM with locked bootloader? Did you get safestrap working for the XT1049?

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awesome, strike my previous question then. Thats great to know that this is the correct image. This gives us the opportunity to mess around and know we can safely unbrick

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want to test the safestrap out?

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/page-38
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
Safestrap works great BTW. I prefer CWM but TWRP will suffice
[Moto X General] ryude:
Same here, Moto X is working fine and the service is acceptable. Can't beat unlimited everything for $25/mo.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
So the unmodified Safestrap works fine on our Republic Wireless phones?
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
which one did ya use? The verizon version for the XT1060?

[XT1060] Verizon Wireless (3.63a) <<<
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
No, TMobile (XT1053)
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Anyone had issues sending texts over wifi with their Moto X? I was on a okish (6mbs down 2 mbs up) stable connection and the phone would just time out when trying to send txts. As soon as I switched wifi off I could send the txts via sprints network. I could still browse the net and make/receive calls over wifi but the txts would just not send.
[Moto X General] ryude:
I haven't had that issue myself. If it persists you might try submitting a ticket to RW through their website.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Yea I went ahead and submitted a ticket... Its probably something to do with the router settings but thought I would check with them first. I was also in the supermarket this afternoon and while looking something up with 5 bars 3G data just cutout. All bars went away and no signal (wifi was off), I turned on airplane mode and then off and 3G data with 5 bars came back... weird.

While on my RW account page some new info poped up that seemed to say they are letting you switch your phone to someone else though, good news I suppose since it will add some resale value to the phones.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
So you used the xt1053 3.65 apk?. Just installed it and ran it like in the instructions?
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
Yup. Works like a charm.

I'm gonna develop a CM ROM for the XT1049 later this month and then we can try that as well.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
Sweet. Thanks for the info!
[Moto X General] ryude:
Something in the firmware of RW tells the mobile data to turn off all the time. They want you to offload to wifi as much as possible, that's probably why.
[Moto X General] kregerator:
I've had some issues receiving messages with images. Lots of dropped calls too. Seems to happen if I'm moving. Walking around a room vs. standing still.
[Moto X General] jgolf:
I've had difficulty sending messages. My issue was I couldn't send messages that had graphical emojis. They would look "sent" on my phone, but the recipient never received them. This was happening with the stock Google Keyboard that comes already intalled and Hangouts and default messaging app. I just stopped sending messages with graphical emojis so I don't know if the problem persisted or not.
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
you used a GSM safestrap on a CMDA only radio phone....

That doesnt sit right with me.
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
Firstly, this isn't a CDMA only. It has the GSM stuff in it for LTE

Secondly, its a T-Mobile and all other variants APK so it supports this and all the others
[Moto X General] Rashed97:
If anyone knows someone with a Sprint Moto X, can you have them get the Device ID for us? We should be able to unlock the bootloader for our version if we can get the unlock code, and what better way then to trick Motorola into giving it to us?
[Moto X General] alphahere:
Stupid question. Where is the device ID located on the phone or better how does one find the device ID.

Thanks.