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[Android Apps and Games] coolpages:
Wondering if it would be possible to allow XDA members to have a Non-Root version.

I think many here would not ask why certain functions do not work (if it is shown as Root required functions).

There are sound reasons for doing this.

1. Newbies who do not know anything about root but want some extra functions.

2. Those who can root but choose not to.

I belong to the 2nd category.

In fact, I'm currently rooted but I have chosen to look only for apps that do not require root for it to even work at all.

The reason for this is that Samsung (and we all know it is the biggest and perhaps the only Gorilla in the Android room) is making it hard to root their phones without triggering Knox.

I currently use a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and I'm waiting for the Jelly Bean 4.3 update to arrive. Unfortunately, I understand that it includes Knox and rooting will void my warranty.

And yes, the Android OS is getting much better that I can "live" without root.

I own several root required apps like GMD Gesture Control (- love it but it requires Root), Tasker (Root required for some functions) and many others.

So as I prepare myself for the coming upgrade to Samsung's Official JB 4.3, I made a conscious decision to stop using apps like GMD Gesture Control, although I love it and find a way to live without it. I found that I can.

I also disabled root access for Tasker and find that for the better part of it, I can still use Tasker very productively. I simply don't use the functions that require root access.

Looking from an App marketing economics standpoint, Apps that require Root access for it to even have a single function to work will have a much smaller market than those like Edge Pro for which some functions are limited because of the lack of root, but many functions can work without root. There are of course far more unrooted phones than rooted phones.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.reactivstudios.android.edge.pro

One possible way round this is to have a non-Root versions that does not even display (not just greyed out for example) functions that require root.

So living without root is becoming possible. Yes, that's coming from a one who has rooted every device starting from Nexus One, Nexus S and Galaxy Note 2.

I also flashed various Roms for my Nexus One and Nexus S. I only rooted the Galaxy Note 2.

I know it's a trade-off for me. I may loose some convenience, but I also get to upgrade to JB 4.3 official Rom.

And when and if I decide to move on to the next device, I don't have root withdrawal symptoms waiting for the device to be successfully rooted without triggering Knox, or whatever that Samsung, LG etc may want to throw at us.

Naturally, once I'm off warranty or if I can find a suitable hardware vendor that is friendly to the root community, I may want to root again.

But in the meantime, perhaps I'm wrong, many more will choose to stay unrooted because the threat of losing warranty.

And we sometimes even upgrade to the next phone even before warranty is over on the current phone because the cycles are getting shorter and shorter, giving me less and less reason to root.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Blame Google. Install it as system app to cut off the delay time.

Root is required for almost all the functions. The system does not allow user apps to trigger most of the key presses like back, menu, etc. All you get without root is ability to put app shortcuts on the Pie and the home button, and maybe a few more things.
[Android Apps and Games] kunjunk:
+1 also having this issue.

Otherwise many thanks to the dev, this is a wonderful piece of software!
[Android Apps and Games] vivimob:
I have the same problem on GS4
[Android Apps and Games] chrisa887:
Note me, works great on my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] Black Adam:
Is it possible to set up an option to go to notifications from the pie? This was the best feature of the PA pie, since I never had to reach to the top of my screen and pull down the notification shade, it allowed for one handed control. I would gladly pay/donate for an app with that feature.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Not sure if the notifications can be showed above the Pie, but I can certainly add an option to pull down the notification shade inside the Pie.
[Android Apps and Games] WeedyEyes:
Hi, nice app but I got some sort of delay between system actions on my Samsung P601.

And one more thing, I want to see all Pie if I select element without submenu.
[Android Apps and Games] :
No dice. Delay is still there on Nexus 4.
[Android Apps and Games] Gautam_pentech:
pro 3.1

where to get piecontrol pro 3.1 for free? can you please let me know

bdw nice app
[Android Apps and Games] :
piecontrol pro 3.1 is not the same app. Eatheat's version is much nicer. Though functionally, at this point, it's not quite there, this is still the nicest looking and most well designed pie I've used. I really hope the delay can be fixed and clear all apps function can be added.

Don't get frustrated Eatheat. You've got our support!
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Not at all frustrated. :D

Well maybe a bit coz I lost my signing key and can't update the app on the market anymore. But I'll add updates over here once in a while. :cyclops:
[Android Apps and Games] skunks11111:
Very clean and simple. Maybe you could add some features to the persistent notification? An option to toggle different edges and so on... Otherwise perfect app!
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
You can control edges even in the current version.
[Android Apps and Games] EmeraldTimer:
I have problems typing with keyboard, i cant press QAZ and PLM because of pie, how can i fix it?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Customize the trigger edges like u want. There's an option for that.
[Android Apps and Games] skunks11111:
Yes but I would like to do that right from the notification. Toggle between the left/right/bottom edges on and off. For example when I hold my nexus 7 in the left hand, I want to have the left edge enabled but only for a short time. So I could swipe down the notificaton shade and toggle the left edge. (I use the left edge in Google+ for example, so i can't just enable the left edge as well)
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Good idea. I'll add it in the next update.
[Android Apps and Games] TomaszM1:
AWESOME APP :)

:victory: Is that what I was looking for :highfive:

90% of swipe menu etc. work from narrow edge, where Is hard to hit for me because my tablet is built-up in car so don't have acces to hard buttons.

Cherry on the cake will be option for notification toggle & power off (but turn the phone/tab off) or mayby reboote as well :p

I know Black Adam ask for notification already, I'm not sure is same but I'm thinking- when I press on pie will open from left-top corner OEM notification list.

ps.possible bug-the only thing I found is that in other pda HTC incredible S (stock rom) sometimes turns vibration/ haptic on even where that option is off. Possible this phone have a lot of junk and was't cleaned for a long time...

On Samsung galaxy tab have some sort of delay between system actions but is a trifle compared to the total.
[Android Apps and Games] Sn00ky:
Hey [MENTION=5048563]EatHeat[/MENTION] thanks for the great app. Is there a chance also to hide the soft keys for Nexus 5? Or there is something with my device and this feature doesn't work on my end. Thanks for the reply!
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
There's no feature of hiding the softkeys for now. I plan to add them but I'm not going to be developing till March as I have my exams. I'll add them at the end of March or beginning of April. Sorry, exams first. :(
[Android Apps and Games] Sn00ky:
Ofc exam first, coding second haha. No worries man, I will keep it in my wishlist and wait patiently for the update. :) GL on your exams.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Android Apps and Games] t-m:
Bug rep - if any app is unistalled -> editing menus causes it to crash.

Hi,

Excellent App.

Bug -

It happens if I uninstall an app which is appears on a sub menu, now the pie shows a blank space in that submenu - which is OK.

But if I try to

edit

that the affected submenu then Pie Control crashes compleletly. On restarting also it does not allow any edits on the affected submenu and always crashes.

The only workaround is to reinstall that app - remove it from Pie Control and then uninstall. In other words always remove from Pie Control first then Uninstall any app.

Pie Control should allow for edits even if an app has been unistalled!

samsung i9070,Stock ROM, rooted, V4.1.2
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Didn't know that happened. Will check it asap. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] willstay:
Thanks EatHead for the awesome app. Since I am using Galaxy Note, pressing Home and Task switch was too painful. And I tried few other apps but never was this satisfied with Pie. I would like to request you to add one option under Tools that would disable Pie (or hot zone) for few seconds. Sometimes things to be clicked fall just at the hot zone and clicking somewhere else, scrolling page if scrollable and clicking again takes little time. If that option was available, and if accidently Pie gets activated, I can immediately select disable for few second and then click where required.

I would also love if we can disable auto rotation. I usually like right center as hot zone and that is where camera shutter button is :)
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Sure. I have plans to put a quick toggle in the notification bar to toggle the Pie.
[Android Apps and Games] willstay:
As you can see in the below image in app Financisto, when I have to click "=" icon, the hot zone gets activated and this particular page cannot be scrolled up/down to relocate "=" out of hot zone. The notification toggle to toggle Pie would require me leave the activated hot zone, go to notification pull down, disable Pie, click "=", go back to notification and enable Pie - this process requires lots of clicks. Instead if you can add one tool option like "D" (which I photoshoped) to disable hot zone for few seconds.

To make it more interesting, you can add "Dx" which will disable Pie requiring manual re-enabling from notification toggle. I can choose "D" when I simply need to click things like "=" in above example and click "Dx" if I am trying to take several pictures in camera app.

Alternate idea would be to keep pressing at the hot zone and then click goes through inside the Pie and gets clicked whatever is below it.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
That is actually a very good idea. :D Will definitely add it.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Added this option in the new update.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Major Update!

Complete UI Overhaul

Internal Code Clean Up

Added Switch Off Option

Added Reboot Option

Added HotBotboot Option

Added Reboot to Recovery Option

Added Expand StatusBar Option

Added Recent Apps Option

Added Toggle To Last Used App Option

Added Quick Disable Option

Lots of other changes

Get the Play Store Version from here.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.eatheat.pie2

Thanks to [MENTION=4994578]sarkar1990[/MENTION], [MENTION=4620325]b16h22[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4973484]amit.mb[/MENTION] for their vigorous testing.

================================================================

Note: I have lost the key for my previous app so it cannot be updated from the Play Store anymore. The new version has been uploaded as a new apk which will continue receiving the new updates. Delete the old apk before installing the new one. Those who got it from the Play Store before, send me a mail and I will refund the purchse of the new app.

The XDA version is however still available as a free version from the 3rd post.
[Android Apps and Games] willstay:
Thanks a lot. Going to buy paid version soon.
[Android Apps and Games] isajoo:
Delete
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
The lag is not caused by the app, its just the way android works. Everyone is not too familiar with installing as system app, etc because of which most of the functions use reflection. There wouldn't be any lag had this been made using system permissions. Just install it a as system app, and it will cut out the lag between the actions.

I'll add more glow, color, etc features over time. Not sure about the date, time. Or I'll add it and allow option to enable/disable it.
[Android Apps and Games] padremayi:
Hi, thanks for this app.

With this update I don't have the icon in notification bar when I check the option for prevent system to close app.

Furthermore I don't have the options for transparency how I see in the first thread post.

Nexus 4 Android 4.4.2 stock

Bye ;)
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
The notification is there. Its been made transparent to give it a cleaner look.

And now the transparency option is integrated into the color picker. When you choose color, there should be sliders at the bottom. The last slider is the transparency slider.

Yes I get what you are saying. Although its not happening with me and it shouldn't happen either since I did not touch that part of the app. I'll look into it. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] dax51:
Like the app very much

Hi,

Great app! I think it is much better than the previous version. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] padremayi:
In this way I have an "hole" between notfications...

It is not cleaner IMHO. Take a look at the screenshot :)

Can you insert an option for this?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Holy ship! Sorry about that. :D

I'll revert it back to the normal icon or make an option to choose between transparent or normal icon. Thanks for pointing it out. :)
[Android Apps and Games] padremayi:
Thank you for this app ;)
[Android Apps and Games] xday123:
Pie Control

Hi Dear EatHeat,

Can i be granted the permission to use your pie control in my rom. if anyone says its warez i will link it to your free for xda thread. i will also give you credits. please consider it.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Would it be possible to anchor pie to a specific area? It always jumps around sometimes causing buttons top go of screen. The delay is still present when selecting back or the menu button on most roms. I think it hates xposed also. When running art, performance is much improved.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Pie shows up on the position where you call it from. If you call it from an edge, then they will go out of screen. I can make an option to keep it centered all the time.

Not sure what you meant about xposed, but the lag with those buttons cannot be fixed. Its just the way android works. Install it as system app to fix the lag.
[Android Apps and Games] :
"Centered!" That's the word I was looking for. Regarding my comment about xposed, pie seems to have less delay when xposed is not enable. I tried to remove modules one-by-one, but I couldn't find an individual module to be the culprit. This could be my imagination though. I'm getting older. :p
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Same here. Turned 12 last week. :(

I'll do some tinkering with xposed to see if something can mess this up or not.
[Android Apps and Games] The-Droidster:
Great App! One thing I find missing is access to system shortcuts. Can that be added?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Which shortcuts exactly?
[Android Apps and Games] The-Droidster:
Shortcuts that you can add to the homescreen, the way you add widgets.
[Android Apps and Games] bluepresto1:
Great app, one request though. Could you add a button to remove the stock controls? At the moment I have to manually edit the build prop after each ROM update by adding this to the build prop

qemu.hw.mainkeys=1

Without doing this, swiping pie controls from the bottom edge does not work.

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Also, there is a slight but noticeable delay for the back button. Can this be looked into? There is no delay for home and recent app switcher.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Home screen shortcuts depend on the launcher. If you need any specific shortcuts, I'll add them.

The stock controls cannot be removed normally. It would either need xposed or to modify the build.prop. The build.prop is not recommended as it would be modifying system files and can soft brick your phone. I may add a xposed method later, but that would need to wait till my exams are over.

As for the back button, that cannot be fixed unless you move the app to system partition. Moving it to system partition should take care of the lag.
[Android Apps and Games] nikctsh:
Glad that I found this amazing app! I'm a non-root user but still, I installed it on my phone because I only need 3 functions: lock screen, home, and recent apps. Others work fine, except for lock screen. Can you make the lock screen function works on non-rooted device like all the others lock screen apps on market do (by enabling through administrative)? Also is it possible to add shortcut into the sub-menu? The shortcut I would like to add is 'hibernate all' from greenify. Many Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
I'm not really sure if I'll be adding this or not. Since this already has a way to lock the screen it would be useless to put in multiple features for the same thing which would just bloat the app. I might as well just send you a separate app with that feature enabled.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Update V1.4.2

Added KitKat UI compliant notification icon (no more transparent)

Now upto 7 Pie Slices at the same time instead of 5

Minor internal code modifications
[Android Apps and Games] nikctsh:
Is that possible? For you to send my another app with that feature?? Wow, I'm really grateful! Many thanks! :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Sure, as soon as I get some time.
[Android Apps and Games] nikctsh:
Sure, take your time, this is definitely something worth waiting for :D
[Android Apps and Games] argrr101:
Great job with this. I've been installing this app on and off for about a month but I think I'm gonna keep using it from now on!

I don't know if you can change this but I'm running PA4 Beta 6 and there is an immersive mode that can get rid of the bottom status bar. I really want to have pie control come from the very bottom of the screen, but when I set the controls to bottom edge, it still thinks that the status bar is there. Is there any way you could make it so that the trigger zone starts from the very bottom of the screen so when there is no status bar we can just swipe from the bottom?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Statusbar at the bottom, does this mean you are using a tablet? Or do you mean the navbar? It may be possible, I'll take a look and let you know.
[Android Apps and Games] argrr101:
Sorry I mean the nav bar I think. The bar with back, home, and recent app buttons. Thanks again!
[Android Apps and Games] swarls:
Add this line to your build.prop (and reboot):

qemu.hw.mainkeys=1

It'll completely turn off the navigation bar.

Hope this helps :)

But i got a little issue myself, the APP got root access, but if i use the back button, it keeps telling me that this feature needs root access.

Using cm11 native superuser APP.
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Are you sure this app has root access? If it does, then try removing root access and allow this app to have access again. Or you can try SuperSU. This has never been reported before and is working perfectly fine here.
[Android Apps and Games] swarls:
Just found out whats the problem, I was using another pie APP before. Now i uninstalled it, everything works fine. :)

Great APP, thanks alot! :)
[Android Apps and Games] t-m:
Any developments on Bug Report?

#209

Hi EatHeat,

Any progress on eliminating this bug #208? Its still there in V1.4.2 :(

TIA
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Oops. Completely forgot about it. Keeping this on my first TODO list right after exam. Thanks for reminding me. :)
[Android Apps and Games] argrr101:
Hope your tests are going well!

Wondering if it would be possible to make it so we can customize the icons that appear in PIE when you set it to open an app?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Yes I have plans to add custom icons and maybe even per app pie color. Next update may also have a second layer. I'll be starting working on this again from 24th. :)
[Android Apps and Games] :
Will we be able to center pie in the next release? Thank you for the. Fyi, there is no delay when using slim rom

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Will we be able to center pie in the next release? Thank you for the. Fyi, there is less delay when using slim rom
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Hopefully yes. And lag with back button will be completely fixed in next version if it's installed as a system app. Animation speed control will be added too.
[Android Apps and Games] :
I look forward to it! Thanks a lot!
[Android Apps and Games] sharksfan7:
Still hoping for the ability to export/import app settings. Any chance this can be added?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Definitely yes.
[Android Apps and Games] algarues:
Is the search icon supposed to replace the search button in the navigation bar or to start google search?

If I press it in apps such as browsers or play store it does not either activate the location bar or search for apps
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
It's for starting Google search or Google now if you have it.
[Android Apps and Games] t-m:
Hi,

Any progress on eliminating the bug? It's so irritating!

Where is the menu information stored? Can I manually edit it so that the problem has a temporary workaround?

TIA

samsung gt-i9070, stock jb, rooted
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Now I'm no mind reader. Which bug exactly?
[Android Apps and Games] t-m:
Uninstalled items crash the app while editing

Cut-paste snafu, sorry! :confused:

Please see post #208 -

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49836603&postcount=208

TIA
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
I know how to fix it but can't give time to it coz of exams.

School exams just got over and I have 2 major exams for getting admission in college. Exams are on 6th and 20th of next month. I'll release a minor update for it after 6th and all other requests will be added in another update after 20th.

Thanks for cooperating. :)
[Android Apps and Games] satyamdhaker:
Great app...thanks dear
[Android Apps and Games] VetalM84:
Trigger transparency

Hi!

Could you add trigger transparency feature? I would totally made it transparent.
[Android Apps and Games] t-m:
HI,

Hope you are free (of exams etc) now.

Just a reminder of the bug I had pointed out in post 208.

TIA
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
Yes exams are over. Currently working on something else. Will fix this when I release next update.
[Android Apps and Games] bezimienny:
I have not bought yet because I have an application question. After reading the description of the application have not found the possibility of a switch DATA TRANSFER, there is a possibility or not?
[Android Apps and Games] EatHeat:
What do you mean by DATA TRANSFER?
[Android Apps and Games] argrr101:
I think he might mean mobile data? 3G and LTE sort of thing?
[Android Apps and Games] :
Is this project dead?
[Android Apps and Games] mpegispg:
Hello everybody.

First thanks to EatHeat. You've build a great app. Now I can get rid of the navbar!

Second I think I've found a bug in haptic feedback. I tried disabling it multiple times but after restarting it's always on again. Maybe you could look into it.
[Android Apps and Games] _Negan_:
Hi m8 the apps would be perfect if more in slim pie style and not pa style. I mean 2 rows buttons and short/long press actions like pie control from slim team that is absolutely the best one. Will you plan to implement those features in future? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] 1BadWolf:
I like the look of the slim version too, but if you think about it this has five buttons with the option to set another 4 sub buttons for each. That gives you a total of 20 buttons you can set whereas with the slim version you can only set up to 12 buttons. Function over form, I suppose.
[Android Apps and Games] _Negan_:
Well slim pie has 12 buttons but 24 possible actions with short\long press...?