yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
400 MB is what I have on my Xperia T after a reboot (no bloatware), as soon as you leave the browser and check 2-3 other apps and then return to the browser (20 seconds later) it has flushed the pages from memory and has to redownload the pages. In Pulse it kicks you out from the story (and even the category) you were reading when the app reloads, all as a result of the low RAM.

I also have the Asus Padfone 2 which has 1.5 GB of free RAM after boot, and it doesn't do any of that flushing, all your opened apps are in memory (because there is room for it), and the user experience compared to the Xperia T is like day and night due to that extra RAM.

So that's only partially true: used memory is good as long as it's made up of YOUR apps that are in memory, but 400 MB of free RAM for user-running apps is simply too little on Android, and I have my own experience, and couple of "Android-geek" friends who also complain the very same issue on their phones (Galaxy Nexus + S3), to back it up.

Since I only buy unbranded phones I'm curious what kind of bloatware you have disabled on your carrier-branded phones?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] verks:
I'm having concerns with the ram. I usually have 750 on a fresh boot and 300 -400 average daily. My issues are when apps close randomly such as Sirius radio or tune in radio.

For example I'll be listening to one of those apps and get a call or pause it, when I go back to listen the app is closed. Or after a call on my previous phones it would resume. On the G2 it doesn't resume playing because the app is closed. That is not acceptable.

Another example is in the stock task switcher is I try to go back to an app I used say yesterday it will still be in the task switch but if I press it to go back to it will not respond to my touch. I have to actually go back and relaunch the app from the menu. Anyone else having these issues?

Sent from my LG G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gasaraki-:
Yeah, I don't get people. They think free ram is magically going to make the phone faster. RAM is meant to be used. If your phone is not using ram, then it's not going as fast as it could. I usually have around 400-600MB free. I have frozen all apps that I think are bloat or I don't use.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wesley32:
Using cleanrom 1.0 I have over 600MB free. With open apps. No complaints.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
To less off fee ram and android will start shut down backgroundapps to free up some. So little free ram is good on any linux. You surf the net on your browser and want to have any backgroundapps alive and kicking? You need ram :) So kill all bloatware and services you don't need, works in S4 and should work on the clone :cool:

Skickat från min HTC One via Tapatalk 2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
Your Sirius app closing when you switch to another app is a typical behavior when you are low on ram, so the system immediately closes down an app when it goes to the background in order to free up memory. It's very frustrating, and it was the only reason I stopped using my Xperia T. Never had that problem with my Padfone 2 though, precisely because of all that free ram available at any point.

The task switcher issue you're describing is a bug though, I have never heard of it before but the OS should not behave like that.

And I don't get people who reply to threads they haven't read (or don't understand). It's not about speed.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
^This

All that "free memory is wasted memory"-talk is nonsense in this context, but people have read that phrase someplace and are now throwing it around whenever they hear the word "RAM", regardless of context.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
Proof or GO of this thread. Nonsense and BS. Padfone 2 can haz 1.5 AVAILABLE memomy from boot, but it's not FREE memory. And that't ppl such as you that constantly spreading BS all around making other ppl believe that something's wrong with G2
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeznuts:
Exactly! I too own an HTC One X+ and the biggest and only real complain is the crappy ram management. My device does only have 1gb of ram though. Say i'm using Pandora, i receive a call, end call, phone goes back to Pandora but opens it from scratch, that to me is crappy app/ram whatever you want to call it management. I just figured it was due to my device only having 1gb of ram but does Pandora and stock Dialer app really use that much ram? No, not even close which again concludes me to think crappy Android OS 4.1 ram management.

Sad to see this G2 device "top of the line hardware" with 2gb or ram does the same exact thing. Only thing these two devices have in common, using Android OS. Mine is 4.1 and this device 4.2 but obviously no difference as users saying they get the same issue here.

I'm also using a custom rom with as many tweaks possible "to prevent this"

from happening.

I remember my old HTC Diamond doing this too and that device only came with i believe 256mb of ram, sad that to today there is still no resolution to this issue.

Worst part is if you're playing a graphics intense game like dead trigger, get a phone call, even if you ignore it and device goes back to dead trigger, the game now restarts from scratch and all progress never saved as if you weren't even playing the game. Total waste!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] warlord420:
My att G2 has about 650 with alll loatwear installed,

after clean tool i get around 800.

When more dev. happens its going to be possible to have 1.2+ with optimization , LG has alot crap running.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EniGmA1987:
BTW, this is what I get on fresh boot, and I haven't even frozen or uninstalled all of the bloatware apps in the ROM.

On another note, you should stop acting like a **** OP. If you ask a question on a forum expect answers from all sorts of people. If you dont like some of those answers dont ask in the first place.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
So who's spreading the BS?

Now GO of this thread.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
The only nonsense around here is the assertion that the amount of free ram on a phone is of no concern. Android's memory management can't perform miracles, nor circumvent basic computer science. If this was all about memory management we wouldn't be seeing phones with 2GB, and even 3GB of ram instead of 1GB, would we?

An app can only be loaded into and run from free memory, and if there is not enough of it the OS will try to make more available, i.e close down/cache/freeze/tombstone/swap some other running process that's currently alive (e.g. some other app that's currently running). If that closed process happens to be an app the user was running, and that the user expects to be alive when he returns to it, then you can encounter the scenarios described by some people in this thread - including myself, with apps being shut down unexpectedly in the background (I'm simplifying a little but for this discussion it's close enough...). More free ram means the OS is much less likely to close down apps opened by the user, simply because there is no reason to close them (and *here* is where the expression "unused memory is wasted memory" becomes relevant).

The exact implementation of *how* and *when* Android closes/freezes apps is what the memory management is all about, and what the text you posted explains. The talk about Android's memory management originally came from all the task managers people were using on their Android phones up until 2-3 years ago, which started to interfere with how the OS was supposed to work. But that is a completely separate discussion, irrelevant to what we are talking about here.

I honestly can't explain it any simpler than that. In other words, free (as in "unused") memory is fundamental in *any* OS for a good user experience, because your apps are going to run in that free memory, and the more of it you have the more apps you can run simultaneously without the OS closing them down in the background.

EDIT:

Just found this while I was searching for another story:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/08/30/htc-one-mini-review-the-awkward-ram-deprived-middle-child/

Note the title, and the "Not so good"-summary:

So how come it's an issue on the Mini if the concern for free ram is "nonsense" and it's all about Android's memory management??

The issues described in the Mini-review is exactly what I faced with my Xperia T, and the reason why I asked the question here in the first place.

So I will repeat it for the last time: the amount of free ram you have on your phone is fundamental and - contrary to what some of you believe and have repeated here over again - anything but "nonsense", and has nothing to do with "unused memory is wasted memory" and all that talk about Android's memory management.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
No more **** than someone who replies with "yeah, I don't get people", acting like a smarta**, while in reality completely missing the point of the question.

Either way, thanks for posting your numbers.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
I'm not surprised at all: the One X was notorious for its low-memory related issues, so much in fact that HTC felt they had to issue a statement on the matter:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...made-multitasking-broken-on-the-One-X_id30235
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paulb_nl:
There is always a lot of confusion about free ram because what Android considers to be free is not always the same what Task managers and other apps consider to be free.

The screenshot that you posted from Settings-> Apps-> Running apps on your Padfone with 1.5GB free at the bottom right is what's important. The 1.5GB that Android reports there is the sum of free (unused) ram + ram available by killing background apps. On the bottom left it reports the amount of ram it can't kill or kill as last resort.

Android will always kill all background apps before it will start to kill services. So if you have hundreds of apps and a lot of those apps are running services it will have less ram to store background apps.

I don't know if the LG task manager is displaying free (unused) ram or what Android reports as free. I have not yet seen a screenshot of Running apps on the G2.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
My understanding is that the screenshots people have posted here is the equivalent of stock-Android's "Running" tab (the Padfone is virtually stock), only that LG has skinned theirs + added some extra functionality to their skin ("stop" and "stop all"), but that the numbers reported by "free" is equivalent to the 1.5GB.

I don't think you can even display "Running" on the G2 as on stock, simply because everything is skinned.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
So padfone 2 has 1.837Gb of RAM available? And only 128Mb is cut for videoRAM? I don't believe it. Every QSD600 phone has 1.7 available RAM, 256Mb is cut for video.

Strange, very strange screenshot

Can anyone affirm his claims?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nismology:
Not quite. The G2 has a running tab in the Apps menu right where you expect to find it. In any case, the free RAM reported in LG's task manager is less than what is reported in the running tab. These screenshots are after a fresh reboot and with more usage the disparity is even greater between the two.

Just curious...do you have this device or plan to get one?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paulb_nl:
Samsung Galaxy S4 9505 has 1821MB, HTC One 1862MB (Sense kernel 1567MB), LG G2 according to the CM screenshot 1854MB.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
Two more shots in quick succession after opening a bunch of apps. Do the math.

The only strange thing here is you apparent inability to grasp facts even when they are presented to you; as such you'll want to think twice in the future when you call someone out, all while acting like a veritable a**hole and, as you say, spreading BS around here.

Again, take up on your own challenge and GO of this thread.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zxrax:
running CleanROM:
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hduty:
I didn't know the regular Running tab was available on any of the skinned devices (you if that is true for the GS4 and One as well?).

Good to know, thanks for the info and for posting the shots :)

I was going to buy it but then I saw that shot in my first post, which if true would be a dealbreaker, hence my question here. But given most of the info here it doesn't seem to be an issue, even more so given that I would buy it unbranded.

But now I've come across the thread where some people complain about the sound quality over A2DP, which is exactly the problem I had on my Padfone and why I stopped using it. So if that is true then I'll have to pass on the G2 as I only use BT earphones :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Seb855:
So theres this kinda new online fps called Blitz Brigade on the playstore . Some s4 users can play while others cant . I love that game . Works ok on my old tablet with ics but wont work with my shiny s4 :/ . This is one of the best game on android ! If some of you have any idea that I could try it would be appreciated .

Thanks

Sébastien
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] XCnathan32:
First: What ROM do you have? Second: are you rooted? Third: What happens when u click on the icon? (P.S i also love blitz brigade too)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Seb855:
Im using the stock firmware . Im on 4.2.2 and rooted . I dit a factory reset to make sure i wasnt the problem and it didnt work either :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Seb855:
I had an app that was working in the past . I followed some instruction I found on the net to change a few video settings into devellopers options and it worked great . Im real good with instructions but im really far from understanding what im doing LOL . So I tried changing a few things here and there to make it work witouth success . Must be pretty easy I think for someone who knows what hes doing since there is some s4 who can run blitz brigade and some who dont . Thats according to positive and negative review on the playstore . ( All the setting I changed were put back to normal right after each fail :p )
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] XCnathan32:
When u click the icon does it open, black out, and then say "unfortunately blitz brigade has stopped"?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Seb855:
Yes the game opens . I get the loading screen . Then the pick a username . Once I get to the pick a username screen . If I type a nickname or not it doesnt matter . Takes 5 seconds then the screen freeze and close . Im not getting any error message . It just close with no explanation . Same thing is happening to most negative review from s4 users on the playstore . While some evil one are saying thanks . Great app ... bla bla bla . I guess they have the european version hehe
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] popcee.p:
Hi All,

I dont know what I have done to my phone. I have erased all the chache of my phone once. Later the phone is not getting on.

It is showing HTC logo (@Startup) and not moving further.

Please help me what I have to do it now.:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
You need to provide more information. What are your bootloader details? What exactly did you do before the problem started happening? Just erasing the cache will not cause this problem, so you need to tell us exactly what happened.

Sent from my Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
Did you just wipe caches, or did you wipe other things like factory reset or system?

As mentioned above, we need

much

more info in order to help.

What ROM were you on?

S-on or S-off?

What version/carrier of the One X?

What hboot version?

What

exactly

did you wipe, and how (in bootloader, recovery, or other).

What recovery?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] popcee.p:
I am literally new to HTC one X and did some tweaks to it.

1. I have some Gapps zip file and updated it where it resulted in apps update and missed my Keyboard.

2. Later I went to bootloader and clicked Factory Reset. Phone got ON and showed the Logo Screen and did not moved from there.

3. So I went to recovery and wiped off all types of cache (Cache, Dalvik etc..)

4. Same problem.

What ROM were you on? - No Idea.

S-on or S-off? - No Idea and I dont even have idea on this.

What version/carrier of the One X? - GSM mobile.

What hboot version? - 1.12.0000

What _exactly_ did you wipe. - All types of cache.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] popcee.p:
Look at this link for more details of my mobile -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45636986#post45636986

Also this link from other forum - http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-x/315099-new-htc-one-x.html (I apologize)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
Ok the fact that you have hboot 1.12 is a dead giveaway. You're posting in the wrong forum. You have the Endeavor (HTC One X), this is the Evita (HTC One XL/at&t One X) forum. You'll need to go to your own device forum and post there.

Before you do go though, a quick word of advice. You have no idea what ROM you were on, you have no idea whether you're s-on or s-off, you're wiping all kinds of stuff without really thinking about it. You performed a factory reset from bootloader which has erased your data (and if your phone is anything like ours it's also corrupted your sd card, I don't know if that happens on your model though). There seems to be a theme here, you're messing around with your phone and you have no idea what you're doing. You really need to do some reading and educate yourself before trying anything else on your phone because you're heading towards causing a brick. Modifying your phone shouldn't be taken lightly, there are serious consequences if you don't know what you're doing and mess up. Please, stop for a minute and do some research.

Sent from my Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] popcee.p:
Thanks for the information seniors.

Will you please help me how to move to Endevour forum?

Also tell me what I need to do so that I can regain my phone please....
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
You can either create another post in the correct forum, or you can report your first post in this thread and ask for it to be moved to the right place.

We can't help you here, we don't have the same phone so we don't have the right knowledge to be able to help you. That's why you need to move your question to the correct forum, so people with the same device can help you out.

Sent from my Evita
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] redpoint73:
I know its already been determined that you are in the wrong device forum.

But the above is the absolute

WRONG

way to answer my question. I already specifically asked if you wiped cache, Dalvik, or other things as well (system, factory reset, etc.). You just said almost the exact same thing "wiped all caches" as you did in the first post, so you aren't answering the question at all.

Saying things like "I tried them all" or "everything" are meaningless here. You need to

list

each and every item of what you did or did not do.

Be specific if you want folks on XDA to help.

And the fact you answered "no idea" to some of my other questions is very worrisome. When modding a phone, you should know exactly what you have done, and what you are doing. Otherwise, it means you haven't researched enough, and are being careless about what you are doing. A recipe for disaster.

---------- Post added at 10:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:28 AM ----------

We can't. You have a completely different device from us (despite the similar name and external appearance). We don't have the knowledge to help you. And any advice we give can damage your device.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vntmarco:
I want to try flashing 4.2.2 france on my P3100 (now 4.1.2 ITV) by Odin.

But... Any problem if I will want to downgrade to 4.1.2 for any reason? (Modem problems? etc...)

Flashing by Odin the 4.1.2 version over the 4.2.2 version will be ok? Or there is some issues?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anabhi:
no issues ,if you follow the instruction !;)
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] bijayprusti:
All My seniors and juniors its my humble request to you all please post all the problem and solution related to Micromax android mobiles :good::p:fingers-crossed::cowboy::cowboy::):laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fierypechu:
HI,

I am new on this forum.

I would like to know which rom is best for the galaxy note 10.1 gt-n8013.It shouldnt have many bugs.

thanks

bye:)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] JJEgan:
Their is no best .

Custom roms are all described and bugs are reported in the threads .

jje
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] xoso:
I think it's not allowed to make a thread like this. You have to read the features of the roms and try. You can see the popularity of the roms by its views . But there can be good new roms with not many clicks. Just try.

Gesendet von meinem GT-N8013 mit Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] kkretch:
The one from the factory is the best.

What don't you like about it or what is it that you want to do that it can't do?

.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] fierypechu:
Its a bit laggy, thats the main reason.

Do you know whether android 4.4 will be released on the note gt-n8013

Thanks

Bye
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] lilgrass71:
Or... just root it and flash a custom kernal to overclock the stock rom... its pretty snappy when overclocked!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] stamatis:
As it has been already mentioned, there is no best rom so it is just stupid to try to find one. You can try many and then decide what suits you better.

Also, please use the appropriate sections, all the questions go to Q&A.

Thread closed.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sedm:
Hello, i own a 9505x not a normal 9505.

And my question is, can i activate in my Galaxy S4 Demo Unit the GSM Modul to use a Simcard???

thanks for answers
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drakexpl:
Nonononoon

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9505 przy użyciu Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcurran.jc:
Sounds a tad dodgy.

Why would a consumer have store version of the phone.

Thats why they dont let you use sim cards with them
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SSThing:
I imagine what you are actually saying is, "I have just stolen a demo phone from my local store and want to know how to get it working?"

I doubt you will get much help here.:)
[Off-topic] joshnssmiths:
What the hell is going on dude...what's u want girlz just d money...??

How many times i have to change my girl frnd ?

W_T_F

thats enough....one day all of u 6 cried for ur mistake....ill make this happen.

Mission One Man Army STARTED from today in my life...all of u 6 girlz just wait nd watch.....

one day not only 6 like you but 6k million girlz want me......

O_F_F

.:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Not all girls just want money. If they see potential in you, and see you are heading in the right direction, you will be surprised who still show interest.
[Off-topic] joshnssmiths:
no dude...i think it's not true...because while i am having a lot of money in my past...

the girls are attracted towards me and also have a fun too...

but now a days i have lost all money in the shares.

and after knowing this factor not any girl even "hi" to me......
[Off-topic] ShadowLea:
You picked the wrong girls, then. :rolleyes:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Exactly. My wife got with me when I was struggling in a dead in job, stayed with me after I got layed off. The money has nothing to do with how we feel about each other. We struggled together, cause we grew to love each other. Now, we are doing much better. Both of us have decent jobs. Be confident in who you are. Look for that one special lady where you can both be yourselves. Where you can both be in a room, and nothing needs to be said, and you feel 100% comfortable.
[Off-topic] P1NK13P13:
Seems a little harsh. Not all of us are the same :p