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[TouchPad Development] gradular:
With removing webos, what could we fall back on to fix and change Android? couldn't values be passed in command line to change partition sizes?

About a wireless acmeinstaller, I've had a way I thing might work brewing around for a while, just haven't had time to try it. You would need a rooted file manager for webos to copy any files moboot and a recovery would install to boot. Then make a script that will create the system, data, and cache partitions. Then you could reboot into that recovery and install the rom and gapps. don't know anyway to flash something without doing that first.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
jcsullins created a resize partition script some time ago, that can be flashed via cwm.

recently i modified it to do a complete media partition resize. it allocates all media partition space but 400/512mb to cm-data.

see http://goo.im/devs/milaq/tenderloin/testing

LVM-tenderloin-media_[x]M.zip

the script roland talked about is my modified script tweaked to do similar for the system partition.

this said, we could do another script which does the same for both partitions at once (with checks in place for enough free storage space, etc).

an updated version of ACME sounds nice. all we basically need to do is modify 90partitions in the ramdisk to handle a new check for cm-system < 460MB to do another +100mb space allocation.

i could imagine 2 versions for "all media but 400mb to cm-data" and "all media but 3GB(like robs setup maybe) to cm-data like you proposed.

here for reference the stock acme3 file http://pastebin.com/KX21E6Gz (for those who doesn't know whats going on behind the curtain).

getting rid of webos completely is a bad idea imho. we still may need it for maintenance tasks like battery firmware reflashing and/or tailor.

personally i like having most of the media partition space allocated to cm-data (16GB touchpad here) but others may utitlise a few bits for their "external sdcard" (which is also getting mounted in the nightlies).

thanks again to verygreen at this point for doing the heavy lifting with acme3. this made the whole process a lot easier in the past.

if you would like to do another version of it it would be very welcomed by me and all users. it seems like manually partitioning isn't working too well for some.

cheers and thanks for your input
[TouchPad Development] verygreen:
What do people on android only devices fall back to? You'd fall back to CWM/other recovery mechanism either one on the internal storage or one that you load over the usb.

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I wonder if 900M system (common on many other devices) would be a better idea also as a means to better future-proof this setup.

Yes, I still have in on my build node ;) Hopefully I still remember how to pack that all stuff back into the double-wrapped uboot multiimage.

With WebOS support from HP ending, where would you get updated battery firmware, also why could not this be done from Andriod? What would you do with tailor that you cannot do from e.g. cwm?

I know there were some calls to get rid of WebOS that we resisted initially as a bad idea, as WebOS looked useful, but it seems it's less and less relevant now and even quickly is becoming unsopported, so why waste a ton of space on it now (again, that seems like a pretty valid option to me at this point).

You totally can mount the android data as sdcard in webos, just needs a bit of extra scripting.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
we still need it for reflashing the battery firmware.

see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2283168

good point.

i think 800-900mb is a good idea. that way we probably dont need to ever change the partitionlayout again.

totally agreed, minimising its space seems also logical to me.

i'll be looking into the mounting stuff if i have some free time.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
in other news

i've uploaded a new version of the datamedia recovery.

this one fixes a few bugs and it is advised to update.

download here:

http://milaq.exnet.me/downloads/get...ork-datamedia-6.0.3.6-20130926-tenderloin.zip

this download is hosted on our private server (so you guys don't need to rely on goo.im for this - been really dodgy for some time now).

i'll also update the first post.
[TouchPad Development] zondajag:
I agree with green on this one. I haven't touched webOS for some time. There should really be another means to install that battery firmware (although I always assumed battery firmware only ever needed updating once per version but I could be wrong).

It would be nice to get the extra space taken up by webOS. It seems the boards on HPTouchpads eventually die after a while (had to replace mine) so it would be good to get the most out of our devices before their inevitable demise. :)
[TouchPad Development] verygreen:
This is totally new to me, I have a bunch of touchpads and all are still alive it seems (and I am totally expecting them to drop like flies after I said this, of course).
[TouchPad Development] garux:
While all this is going on, is there a need to also increase the boot partition?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Reflashing the A6 controller firmware became a routine maintenance procedure as it was suspected that the firmware becoming corrupted might be one of the causes of one's TouchPad bricking. This was suggested by J.C. Sullins and after the process to flash the firmware was worked out, RolandDeschain79 created the guides and videos for all to use. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2283168

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If the issues of A6 firmware reflashing, installing and recovering Android including a complete reset of the TouchPad could be worked out, I would see no reason to keep WebOS on it. The burning question is, is there anyone with the skillset willing to take on this project. Let us not forget several TouchPads were sold by HP accidently with only Android installed. So it can be done. I suppose after WebOS has been removed as long as the TouchPad can still be booted into recovery(large white USB symbol) by pressing the power and home buttons while the TP is booting, and that a ACMEInstaller type of script could be created to remove WebOS, properly partition the memory for an Android only install including recovering the now freed up WebOS space, and then install the Rom, Gapps, Moboot and CWM, I suppose Moboot would still be needed to be able to use recovery, then around 5GB of memory would be freed up for Android. Unless one just absolutely has to keep WebOS installed and knows how to work around the lack of HP servers, there would be two worlds for both camps, one with and one without WebOS.
[TouchPad Development] tducote:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what exactly is going on here? Does this replace TWRP as the recovery? Should I flash this before installing the ROM? Do I need to reboot after I flash this, but before flashing the ROM?
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
One of the reasons most systems have 800 megs or more in their system is all the bloatware that the manufacturer installs.
[TouchPad Development] zondajag:
I take it you cant flash the A6 firmware on a bricked touchpad :P
[TouchPad Development] tducote:
This totally fixed my fiancee's bricked TP:

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004/
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I've never bricked my touchpad yet, so I really can't tell you, but I suspect you are correct. I do believe somewhere during the debricking script, the A6 firmware does get flashed.
[TouchPad Development] MAGIo18:
WebOS Install Failure

Hey there;

I upgraded to CM 10.2, everything went fine and the Repartitioning with Tailor as well. But if I would like to install App Updates in my webOS it always says "INSTALL FAILED". It is not because there might be less free space or something like that, the mounted external SD Partition is big enough. What could be the problem?

In Android it seems to work fine by the way
[TouchPad Development] chemao:
New CWM no usb storage

The version of Clockworkmod Recovery you've linked to doesn't support USB storage. That, to me, is an EPIC FAIL :(:crying:
[TouchPad Development] Bisiburger:
Bug rebort

I have since about a week this night installed. Unfortunately, I have many problems, which make impossible a daily use in my opinion.

Problem 1: The touchpad everytime crashes when a download. No matter whether in the browser or in the Google Play Store. Sometimes the device only freezes and is available again after several minutes.

Problem 2: play videos is not possible because the device always freezes (E.g. YouTube)

Problem 3: Screen lock is very laggy.

An update via Goomanger is no longer possible. It only appears the TWRP homescreen. You must manually click on install and select the zip. (TWRP 2.6.3)

In General, the performance is very laggy and it stutters.

These problems among others, or am I alone?

Note: I have it installed clean over the Nighlty CM10.1 from Milaq.

Nevertheless, I would like to thank Milaq that our old beloved touchpad is still so well supported. It's great to have the latest version on an over two-year-old device.

Edit: I forgot a very important point. The keyboard is too sensitive. A tip on a letter, and the letter appear three or four times. Also letters appear not immediately, but with a few seconds delay.
[TouchPad Development] marcustaz:
I have had no such issues with my tab. The only lag I get is initial unlock. I have had no crashes or youtube issues... I would wipe it clean and start over. Sounds like your flash is fubared...

Yes goomanager download path needs to be edited in settings, this was already discussed by me in an earlier post, that is if you want to continue to use TWRP but Milaq specifically said to use CWM and he even uploaded a new version...
[TouchPad Development] gunja99:
Hi all. I believe I'm running this mod (although Bluetooth works with keyboard, so not 100% sure, was the JC Sullins 10.2 2013080 Build, based on Milaqs ROM), put in on last week.

I too get lock ups after a while in Chrome, etc. (my gf last night gave up on it). iPlayer, youtube, etc works great.

I was using RootzWiki forums for all this information (a lot of replication), that stated that I should be using a 400MB System partition, but here it's stating 500MB. I've seen the tool for WebOS to put this on, great. I actually installed without increasing the size originally, and whilst it installed, etc it was very bad, so re-did it with CWM6, and ACME3. Working fine other than the above.

My question is, should this Partition resizer within WebOS work without having to re-install again? Of course I make backups, etc, but nice to know that it should work without having to restore (i.e. I want to do this when I have 20-30 mins free, or 2 hours ;))

Also I too see the nightlies available, do these include JC Sullins Bluetooth patch, as from what I can tell it works great!

Brilliant job overall though, more than happy with my Touchpad still!
[TouchPad Development] MAGIo18:
I cannot install any kind of application under WebOS, it always says INSTALLATION FAILED!

I installed the new CWM, tried repartitioning et al, nothing changes!
[TouchPad Development] theechap:
Nope, no bluetooth support yet.
[TouchPad Development] gunja99:
Thanks theechap. I think I'm a little confused as I don't think I'm running 10.2 (which is 4.3), think I'm running 10.1/4.2.2 (At work so can't check!) Pretty sure is JC Sullins BT patched one though.

Had a really good read through this thread, and the partitioning makes a lot of sense to me, may have a look, but maybe 10.1 doesn't require it. Will get on the right threads later! If no BT support for 4.3 yet, might wait a bit (but not essential!)
[TouchPad Development] MAGIo18:
INSTALL FAILED! with every WebOS Application I a I am trying to update. I also tried to format external SD Partition under Windows manually via USB cable connected to the Tablet, it went fine. Same issue as before.. what is the problem with it?
[TouchPad Development] gunja99:
Did you leave enough space with Tailor? If you want to use WebOS I reckon you'll need to not reduce it to minimum?
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Did you boot into WebOS, and installed PreWare using your PC? Once you have Preware, you can install Tailor, but someone suggested that Tailor was removed from Preware earlier this week. You have to enable WebOS/Touchpad in Maintenance Mode to install Tailor or Preware. Tailor works, and I have my touchpad with 600 Mb of System, 3 Gig of Android Data, and rest of the space to save anything I want which won't be removed when I do factory wipe under Android/new CWM.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services

Are you aware of this problem?

HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services

[YOUTUBE]L63RiBXhQCY[/YOUTUBE]

HP TouchPad Root Certificate fix for WebOS cloud services(Important)

The Problem:

A vital "root certificate" on webOS devices is due to expire on July 23, 2013. This certificate gives Touchpad users access to HPs cloud services for the App catalogue and Backing up the device. When the "root certificate" expires users will no longer have access to the App catalogue and backed up data. Furthermore HPs online WebOS support is expected to disappear altogether by the end of the year. So it’s recommended to backup your personal data and essential Touchpad software to your PC now.

Read the full WebOS Survival Kit Guide Here:

The solution:

Getting a free App catalog update will fix the "root certificate" problem as long as you downloaded it before July,23,2013. If you are hearing about this after July,23,2013, then you will need to first set the date to June,23,2013. To do this boot into WebOS and go to settings/Date & Time, toggle off the "Network Time". Now adjust the date accordingly and download the Update, once complete comeback and Toggle on the "Network Time" button back to on.

To get the update in WebOS go to Downloads/HP App Catalog. Open the app Catalog and select the categories tab at the bottom. Next click on the “new” tab at the top and Scroll down the page till you see “App Catalog Update”. Now install the update and your Touchpad support will continue to work in a post WebOS world.

Note: You may get a message saying the installed failed but this is incorrect. You just need to reboot the tablet into WebOS and the patch will be installed.

Note:This update requires webOS 2.1+ to be installed. Devices with older versions will need to run the WebOS Doctor first, the latest version is 3.0.5.

Additional threads and info:

HP to issue root certificate fix, ensure continued access to webOS cloud services

The webOS Survival Kit: everything you need to know should webOS doomsday come

Read the full WebOS Survival Kit Guide Here:

Recommended downloads:

webOS Quick Installer

WebOS doctor
[TouchPad Development] gunja99:
Hah! Thanks for that...

I managed to kill me Touchpad by updating the WebOS, and been through the last 2 hours of getting WebOS back (next for Cyanogen, etc). And now all my apps fail to install. Will change date, and do as above. Thanks for that ;)

Will update how I get on.
[TouchPad Development] Colchiro:
There's a script you can flash from recovery after restoring your 4.1x backup or when flashing a 4.1x rom that restores it back. It's called restore-sdcard-after-downgrade.zip and you can find it at the bottom of post #2 here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2121931

You do NOT want to flash that unless you go from 4.3x or 4.2x to 4.1x or you'll screw things up. :D
[TouchPad Development] murso74:
OK got my tp back running. 2 issues. Can't download that new recovery from the site and hbogo says it won't work on my device iun the play store. Everything else works well. Wait 3 things. MX player won't do hardware rendering
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
But will do HW+
[TouchPad Development] murso74:
Don't get that option

Edit.. Found the option but didn't work on the videos I tried it with
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
What was the format of the videos ?

I tried these

Birds went ok, both HW+ and HW (h264 high profile, no sound, 40mpbs)

hddvd didn't ( vc1 18mbps AC3)

Suzumiya /mkv, 720p, h264 vorbis went ok (much better @ HW+, HW had frameskip)

Planet worked with HW+, not with HW.

Weird results...
[TouchPad Development] allstar319:
Since we're on the video playing discussion.. Can't seem to get any HW decoders to work with 1080 flac mkv vids, just defaults to the SW renderer and plays choppy. No trouble playing 720p aac mkv's. But then again, prob more the Touchpad not being able to play it than it being Android's fault (iirc, it did the same thing on cm10 as well, not sure on cm9 since I never tried).

Anyways, thanks for the great work everybody. Glad a 2 year old tablet is still being supported by the community.
[TouchPad Development] gunja99:
Said I would let you know how I got on. I managed to get WebOS working, and preware, etc. For first time flashed the A6 Firmware, etc, etc.

I am runnig 20130808 JC Sullins 10.1/4.2.2 Bluetooth Testing ROM, and other than Chrome locks up, it's a smooth buttery version. Will look at this 10.2 at some point.

Out of interest I made my System partition 528MB in size (probably in preperation for 4.3 one day). Is there any need on a 4.2.2 ROM to do the data/media stuff? Or is that ROM specific (i.e. 10.1 doesn't need it). I am going to run two users (one for gf, and one for me), so will be using that excellent functionality (why iOS hasn't got that is one of the many reasons I won't touch an iPad :))
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
No iPad bashing ;)

Kids love theirs. IOS 7 is a very nice update which is combination of stealing ideas from others, and make it prettier.
[TouchPad Development] mojonba:
Hello,

I just installed this build w/o resizing partitions and using the lite gapps package posted here.

Build seems snappier than CM 10.1. I would like to report that the featue "Vibrate on Keypresses" is not woking as well as the UI Sounds.

Thanks everybody for keeping the Touchpad usable,
[TouchPad Development] newbieandroid:
Nightly 9/28 addressed the only problem I had with this ROM. Which is lag when unlocking the lock screen. Now the tablet feels butter smooth again!

Edit: I noticed the entire ROM was running smooth so I ran Smartbench 3 and guess what? A 8% increase in CPU performance compared to the older nightly.
[TouchPad Development] Silencer96:
Does anyone know how to ameliorate the issue I've been facing as of late? My internal SD card has ran out of space. Thus, I've ran out of space for transferring game files over to the /OBB folder. A quick fix would be propitious, but I'd be willing to resort to anything necessitating a novice's skill level.

Edit: I mollified it by myself. Thanks for the awesome build, OP!
[TouchPad Development] noseph:
You have racked up a $1.50 credit for your use of three 50¢ words. lol
[TouchPad Development] HashTagHell:
Only issue I have with 9/29 is freezing when starting songs in Google Music. Seems like the whole system freezes for maybe two-three seconds then the ui restarts.
[TouchPad Development] green2000:
I haven't tried to delete and recreate before. I see the button to delete, but how do I recreate properly? Is there a prelisted selection of partition names? I just want to make sure I have the correct steps before I nuke partitions.

1. Do CWM backup.

2. Boot into WebOS.

3. Use tailor to reduce the 'USB (media)'.

4. Delete 'Android (system)' partition (currently 400MB)

5. Delete 'Android (data)' partition (currently 1.5GB)

6. Create 'Android (system)' partition with 500MB.

7. Create 'Android (data)' partition with 2GB

8. Reboot into CWM and restore the backup

I assume I have the steps correct. But just not clear what to expect when trying to create the partitions.

Thanks.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Your number 4 will be resizing rather than delete. Once you reduce #3, you can resize system to grab 100 mb freed up.

I did that way and it worked. Then you can further reduce your USB to get larger space, and then dump the data partition, and recreate data to 2 or 3. I have created 3 gig for my need.
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
No need to delete system, just resize to 450 or more to fit milaq's build. To create a data partition, touch freespace. The default is to create partition, but it will make a user partition for linux roms. On the right side you can choose in a drop down. Andriod (data). That option only appears if you already deleted it. I suggest going a lot higher with your data size. Files will now be stored there instead of on the old "sd card". Minimum 6 gigs. More if you have a 32 and a lot of unused space.
[TouchPad Development] worksofart:
Hello all,

is there an alternative way to resize the partition than Tailor?

In the previous posts (page 19) there was a script which failed during the installation process.

I have tried to install the 10.2 without any change in partition, but afterward I could not access to my sdcard anymore; therefore I went back to 10.1 and now I am waiting for a userfriendly solution.

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
Im working on a flashable zip. Just having a zipper issue and no time to track down what's causing it.

What do mean by couldn't access your sd card? You should have an internal and external card. The external card is where all your files would be if you didn't copy them over.
[TouchPad Development] worksofart:
Very strange, I have checked and apparently under /storage it has created an /emulated folder which is empty and renamed /sdcard1 where there are all my old data..

However all apps open normally but try to look for data in the /emulated folder rather than the external card
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
No. that's how it is suppose to work.
[TouchPad Development] green2000:
But as you told me, I might have to delete the partition and recreate. I try and do a Filesystem Check, but it has failed at least the past 20 times. It will not pass, which means I cannot resize. You said that I had done dirty installs, which might be true. My first Android install on the HP was a CM 10.0, then I upgraded to 10.1. I didn't think doing that would be that much of a dirty upgrade to cause my partitions to not resize. So I assume I need to delete and recreate the system partition? Is that something safe to do?

Thanks.

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OK, I finally got the filesystem check to pass. I just had to keep hitting the repair and check, repeat, until it finally worked.

Now onto the next step. I'm a bit confused about the data/media change. Currently, the 'media' partition holds Android related data as well as the CWM backups and Titanium backups. If I flash the new recovery-clockwork-datamedia zip and then the CM 10.2, what will happen to all the files? Will my CWM backups and Titanium backups still be available? Does the Android 'data' stored in the current 'media' partition get moved? I'm just trying to get a clear 'migration plan' so I don't mess things up.

Thanks.
[TouchPad Development] gradular:
Everything will still be on the media partition, you have to move files over manually right now. Anything that you see in data is android or a program putting its roots down on the new sd card.
[TouchPad Development] icy_gt:
CWM

I flashed this with the old cwm and it seems to work fine.. Why do I need the new one and will I need to move everything from my sdcard to the emulated 1 ?