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[Moto X General] Eckyx:
Since we're expecting 4.4.2 to roll out pretty soon, should I unroot before applying the OTA or is it safe to leave it?

I'm strongly considering trying a Chinese bootloader unlock code to get root back after the update.
[Moto X General] kicker22004:
Should have used the China man sooner... He is done.. Glad I got mine in time.
[Moto X General] glarepate:
Restore to stock before accepting the OTA!

The ROM is available here:

http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=12
[Moto X General] EwanG:
Having installed safestrap, I presume I need to do something to remove that as well? The uninstaller simply deactivates it...

I guess the question is if there is a good "restore to like out of the box" guide?
[Moto X General] EwanG:
Have the drivers installed (still), went into adb and did the reboot into fastboot, bring up RSD Lite and select the proper XML file, and then nothing. Is RSD Lite supposed to show anything that indicates it's working, or are you supposed to just wait until the device reboots? Am concerned that there's some magic step I'm missing somewhere :)
[Moto X General] glarepate:
This is one that I have seen:

http://theunlockr.com/2013/11/09/unroot-moto-x-all-versions/

I can't really offer much help with RSD Lite. Hopefully the link above will give you the help you need with it. I don't have Windows so for me the preferred method would be to use fastboot/mfastboot (the motorola version of fastboot, slightly different features than the one that comes with adb.)

I found the link to the info about restoring to stock here:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-xt1049-t2555941

As to removing Safestrap, on Hashcode's blog it says:

"Oddly, a full SBF should erase any trace of Safestrap (it lives on the /system partition which gets reset by a SBF). Have you tried wiping your data/cache in the stock recovery?"

That page is here:

http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/
[Moto X General] androiddoglover6969:
I know the Moto X roams on 850 for Verizon, but for 1900 will use Sprint towers, but if it isn't there, do Verizon towers take over for 1900 as well (to roam)? And our 4G is supported by Verizon because it is 2100? Can someone correct that for me?
[Moto X General] PJnc284:
The Moto X only supports Sprint's 1900MHz lte frequency.
[Moto X General] androiddoglover6969:
What about band 2100?
[Moto X General] PJnc284:
1900MHz only. So it won't benefit from Spark either. At least directly anyways.
[Moto X General] androiddoglover6969:
What is the purpose of having a 2100 band on the phone even if it can not be used on Sprint because sprint doesn't own any of that?
[Moto X General] PJnc284:
Below is all that is supported by the Sprint Moto X. Struck through the GSM frequencies since those aren't accessible on Republic.
[Moto X General] ejlmd:
For my RW Moto XT1049, I obtained the bootloader unlock code from the China middleman. It arrived in less than 12 hours. I used it to unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP 2.7 recovery and unlocked/rooted RW 4.42 ROM.

My whole family is migrating to a T-Mobile USA postpaid family plan. I would like to try to keep my XT1049 to use with T-Mobile, with the understanding that I won't get LTE.

Any thoughts on how I might use a US GSM carrier with this unlocked device? Might it be as simple as using Radio Switcher with an activated T-Mobile SIM card, or alternatively flashing CM11 or a T-Mobile stock ROM. I don't mind experimenting but I would hate to brick this thing.
[Moto X General] androiddoglover6969:
Anyway you can help me get to China middle man and to get my device rooted as well?
[Moto X General] ejlmd:
See the original post in this thread http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177

I followed the instructions. You need the full 15 digit IMEI (from Settings, About Phone, Status). Some posters have said they were unsuccessful getting a bootloader unlock code for phones manufactured in 2013, but I guess I got lucky with mine (from November). Apparently he immediately refunds the PayPal charge if the code isn't availabe in the database. Make sure you choose "Goods and Services" when you make the PayPal payment.
[Moto X General] androiddoglover6969:
So if I am returning my moto x with 4.4.2 and get one with 4.2.2 from RW. Do I still need bootloader unlock for rooting? Or should I be fine?
[Moto X General] ejlmd:
No need to return your current unit with 4.4.2. Just follow instructions to unlock the boot loader, and flash unlocked rooted 4.4.2 stock RW ROM.
[Moto X General] s15274n:
If I unlock the bootloader using the above posts suggestion (I have never done that before).... can I flash a T-Mobile stock ROM and use my T-Mobile sim on this RW Moto X and test that network out? I am currently testing RW, but may stick with T-Mobile... would like to keep this device though.

We do not have 3G/4G in our area currently on T-Mobile, so I assume I would not get those options even in areas where it was an option, correct?
[Moto X General] DanielNTX:
The hardware is different than the Tmobile GSM version. Republic Wireless moto-x is XT1049 while the T-mobile is XT1053. Republic Wireless has CDMA. So the short answer is no and you will probably also lose your configuration to put it back on Republic.
[Moto X General] perfoliate:
Do you have a 2013 or 2014 ? What's your version #?
[Moto X General] s15274n:
2014

HW version: P2BF

BUILD: KXE21.187-L2.24
[Moto X General] perfoliate:
Reason I asked was because this is the 2013 x forum and wanted to get that straight before peeps start jumping all over your case about it being in the wrong forum. [emoji6]

Hopefully someone can chime in and give you some assistance. I saw another thread related to this in the Q&A section I think.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58139833
[Moto X General] TiltedAz:
Some RW reviewers say wifi calling isn't seamless. Had issues with dropped calls when switching between wifi and cellular. Sounds like the hybrid process is: when out of wifi range the call gets dropped and the number is redialed via wifi or cell.

Early on they had reports of poor customer service. Slow to respond to issues, almost impossible to talk to a human. Consumers rely heavily on a RW online user forum to attempt to self correct issues.
[Moto X General] el6006:
Being a sprint phone, could it be flashed to other providers such as Page Plus like my current Sprint Galaxy S3 which I'm currently using on Page Plus???
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
if you had all the required tools/software etc. the republic wireless one is going to be slightly different, it will prolly come with an update that blocks pwnmymoto and it has a locked bootloader
[Moto X General] :
I am thinking of going with the republic wireless 3g $25 plan with the moto x. Anyone know if sprint 3g is fast enough to stream tunein radio?

Sent from my SGH-I747
[Moto X General] TiltedAz:
Sprint is getting better, still rolling out LTE, but there's plenty of stories of sloooowwww download speeds (100k for instance).
[Moto X General] baiju2012:
I don't know about Sprint, but 3g is fast enough for tunein radio. I used it all the time on Verizon's 3g before I made the switch to Nexus 4.

Nexus IV
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
well its more of its going to be locked bootloader, probably block the root exploit and without root it would be hard to get the required info to flash it.
[Moto X General] baiju2012:
I was responding to your comment, the App screwed it up. Yes, 3g is good enough for TuneIn. Sprint, I don't know.
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
ah, i was really confused at first :P
[Moto X General] maceo88:
Mr. Shabbypenguin, Moto does not work

I just want to know why when I try to root my android hwawei premia 4g by using motochopper, the program run and places the app on my phone as superuser, but the app say the (su) needs update, but always report as an error...."There was an error installing superuser. Please send a log of the error to the developer."........I have formatted my sd card and everthing. It says I need to update the binary.........Outside of this I've tried to use every rooting process with no progress- to name a few, SuperOneClick, Frama, z4root, and more, this is the FIRST phone that I cannot root, I need help with Motochopper.....Please somebody help me......I have even bought root checkers and it shows No Rooot Access
[Moto X General] :
Thanks for the response guys. Hopefully tunein will work then on sprint 3g. I have heard a lot of horror stories about very slow speeds. Anyone else thinking of going with moto x on republic wireless with the $25 3g plan?

Sent from my SGH-I747
[Moto X General] shabbypenguin:
whoa, you are way out of kansas there man. you guys may have had an update or something may have gone wrong, try using cydia impactor to root it. should you have any other questions please PM me on here or androidforums about it. :)
[Moto X General] ryude:
I just ordered one. 30 day trial, why not? Plus I am usually on a WiFi network anyway, so I doubt it will be a complete disaster.

5GB of LTE for $40/mo is pretty badass though, and my buddy already has Sprint at work getting 23Mbps on speedtest.net.
[Moto X General] :
Cool. Let us know how it goes.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] ryude:
Sure, it says 5-7 days processing. So it won't actually ship out until next week and assuming 3 day shipping not in my hands until at least 25th. But, that may just be a "cover our ass" timeframe.
[Moto X General] otokoyo:
Ordered mine just now

I was just thinking " Should be here most certainly by turkey day then." But if it comes sooner, I'll be thrilled.

I wonder if it'll be root OOB?

:good:
[Moto X General] ryude:
It doesn't come with root, but it can be rooted. The boot loader is locked though.
[Moto X General] nickel911:
So if we can unlock the bootloader, we should be able to reactivate this thing on sprint? I am on the sprint page now and its FREAKING 549 off contract.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Nope, Sprint confirmed that the RW variant is ESN blocked from their network. Even if you unlocked the phone, it still wouldn't work.
[Moto X General] masimilianzo:
And if I unlock the phone, can I use it on a european 3G network?
[Moto X General] ryude:
You'd have to ask that carrier.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
That is if it's useless CDMA carrier since they can block like sprint is doing. If your European carrier is a gsm one you can just put the sim if the republic version is unlocked and has the necessary bands your carrier uses.
[Moto X General] masimilianzo:
Yes my carrier is GSM and the RW version of the Moto X has the required bands..

So it is only a matter of unlocking the phone using one of the sim-unlock websistes, right?
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
That's correct then if you unlock it, you can pop in your sim.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Well I can't promise you that will work, after all I am not RW or the carrier you plan to use. I will say that RW has good customer support and offers 30 day trial. So even if it doesn't work, you can just return it.
[Moto X General] termleech:
The interesting thing and I haven't seen anyone taking about this is none of the plans include tethering. I actually looked at it but with the extra cost of tethering the plan would have been the same as my verizon price per month. So I opted not to get one because I use tethering enough that I don't want to pay extra for it. It's an awesome phone and price if you don't need tethering.

Edit I thought they offered a tethering option but it looks like you can't get one. So this is no tethering at all. I must have been looking at sprint itself which charges extra for tethering.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Yea I think RW is working from the premiss that you will be near wifi all the time, or at least most of the time so they can reduce usage on the cellular network. Tethering would be kinda counter productive to that business philosophy. Still I don't get why companies care how you use your data allotment. If I'm allowed to use 5GB of data then who cares if its from a cell phone or a laptop/tablet? Whats more is they increased the rate from $19-$25 because they claim that the higher end smartphone (Moto X) will encourage people to use more data. Probably true but it still wont use more then the 5GB they are already allowed to use right?
[Moto X General] masimilianzo:
The RW versione is XT1056 same as Sprint.

I read online that Unlocking the phone for use with GSM Sim without Sprint service is not possible as Moto only releases the codes to the specific carrier and Sprint will not give it to you. Is it true? I'm startng to think that it will be tricky..

I repeat that I want to use the phone on an european GSM network, not an american one.

Can anyone point out a safe site to sim unlock this Sprint/RW variant?

I appreciate your help
[Moto X General] termleech:
Completely agree if you are giving me 5gb what do you care how I use it. Whether I use it for the phone or tethering data is data.
[Moto X General] ryude:
I read on the forums that one of the RW Staff members posted, "We are looking to add tethering feature at an additional cost later next year."

Also, RW confirmed their Moto X will receive 4.4 KitKat in Feb 2014.
[Moto X General] Pfhortune:
Where did you see that?
[Moto X General] ryude:
https://community.republicwireless....aded_versions_of_Android_will_the_Moto_X_get_

And then a Staffer replied to a forum thread saying Feb 2014. I will see if I can find the thread.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Republic Wireless speedtest results (not mine, some of the users in the RW forums are posting their results)
[Moto X General] petergaultney:
Apparently I need to make ten posts to be able to post on the development formus, which is annoying.

I guess I can start here by saying that my wife now has a RW Moto X, and I can confirm that the RockMyMoto root exploit works just fine for it.

Not really sure what to do with it now that's rooted - I'm so used to having custom ROMs on my Galaxy S3 that the idea of a "only rooted" phone kinda confuses me. TitaniumBackup, at least, seems to be happy that we've rooted it. But honestly, I wish her phone had a cyanogenmod-like Settings app - there are a lot of settings, like the configurability of the Quick Settings Panel, that aren't available at all on the RW Moto X (not sure about the others?) and it annoys me to no end that she can't customize that sort of stuff.
[Moto X General] bricky23:
Try Xposed. I hear you can do allot with that.
[Moto X General] ryude:
Does Xposed work?
[Moto X General] bricky23:
I haven't tried it, my Moto will be here thursday. But I have heard others say that it does.
[Moto X General] petergaultney:
No kidding - thanks for the recommendation!

In fact, Xposed + the GravityBox module does pretty much everything I really wanted (Quick Settings customization, transparency of notification bar and status bar, remove/hide pinned Republic Wireless notification from the notification drawer, Advanced Reboot menu, vibrate on call disconnect, battery indicator customization, expandable volume panel).

Sweet. I think this pretty well convinces me that I'd be quite happy with the Moto X on Republic, as long as the Sprint coverage around town seems to hold up its end of the bargain.
[Moto X General] ryude:
While you can always unroot, I'm just going to inform you of the ramifications of having root for Republic Wireless.

https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1765

Return and Warranty Replacement:

https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1083

30 Day Guarantee
[Moto X General] petergaultney:
Yep - I'm certainly hoping we decide to keep the service. And I'm also hoping that what I've read about unrooting being fairly trivial is accurate... in case we decide not to. We've certainly not broken the phone in any way, so I would expect that we should be able to return it to stock.
[Moto X General] kreegaa:
have you tried unlocking the gsm part?
[Moto X General] petergaultney:
Nope. Is there a known procedure for that? I would be inclined to try it, but for that I think I'll wait until we've decided to keep it. :)
[Moto X General] kreegaa:
i think getting codes from various unlockers on fleabay and stuff.. the sprint version (1056) is supposed to be hit and miss and the sellers usually refund you if it doesnt happen..
[Moto X General] Rodimus80:
I am seriously considering getting the Moto X on RW. But I want to be able to tether. If rooted, can I download a tethering app?
[Moto X General] petergaultney:
I haven't tried to yet, but I'd be surprised if it wouldn't work once rooted.

I intend to try at some point, but I also don't intend to tether significantly. I take the view that, since I'm paying them way less, and for "unlimited" data to boot, I shouldn't be abusing the intent of their service even if I'm breaking the letter of the law by rooting.

Presumably they won't take notice (or care even if they do) if they see you tethering on occasion and using reasonable amounts of data. But they have announced an intention to offer tethering for an additional fee at some point in the future, and I've no doubt they won't be pleased if they find anyone rooted and tethering on a large scale. After all, their entire business model is based on you using LESS data by connecting to someone else's WiFi, not creating your own WiFi hotspot using their cell data. ;)
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Are you sure its the sprint 1056 version? I was chatting with someone over on AF that seemed to think RW got the XT1049 variant which does not have GSM radios.

Anyone able to confirm what variant RW is using?

Also my RW Moto X shipped!
[Moto X General] kreegaa:
o great! that would make it defy 2.0! someone please confirm this!
[Moto X General] DanielNTX:
It is the XT1049.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
can you provide a source?
[Moto X General] DanielNTX:
Yeah because I bought it and have it in my hand right now? And when I plug it into the computer, it identifies itself that way.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Ahh ok thanks, so much random info being spouted on the interwebs just wanted to be sure :P

I'l have my own Moto in a couple days though, cant wait!
[Moto X General] Raibyn:
I can confirm that it is indeed the XT1049.
[Moto X General] Eckyx:
Currently have one on the way from RW right now. :D

Will I be able to install OTAs if I'm rooted? I fully intend to move to 4.4 once it's available on our phones but I've read mixed things about OTAs + root.
[Moto X General] Raibyn:
Most likely you will be able to update to 4.4 but you will lose root. Since RW probably won't have 4.4 available to push to these phones until February, it's possible a 4.4 root solution will be available by then. Hopefully whatever root method might be found for other models of the Moto X will work with the RW model at that time.
[Moto X General] warner125006:
safestrap

Since root works on the republic wireless edition for the moto x, I wonder if safestrap would also work?
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
I am also very very curious about this, but not quite curious to risk bricking my phone

---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 PM ----------

Can also confirm. My RW MotoX is XT1049
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
Made some progress. Have my XT1049 rooted.

Tips for people doing more than just installing root apps. ADB does not seem subject to root for some reason with RockMyMoto. I had to install adb unsecure to change permissions and move apps around via adb.

Ive done system dumps of the entire phone using Holo Toolkit

Im currently trying to do a ROMDUMP dump of the entire phone now that im rooted. Its not going well, the tool is very outdated.

Im working with Hashcode to provide him the right files and data to make a Safestrap build for the Republic Wireless MotoX
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
Awesome! I was wondering what needed to be done for that to happen.
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Got mine today. Happy so far, but worried about traveling to the sparsely populated West (Montana, Idaho, etc). Republic's 100mb data restriction on roaming has me considering just returning under the 30-day policy. FWIW, I do use it mostly in a heavily Sprint coverage area, but when I travel (for a week at a time) I don't want a hassle with usage.
[Moto X General] glarepate:
Is this OK?
[Moto X General] Sumanji:
Ah, XT1049 with no GSM radios make it less appealing as an impulse purchase...

Will wait and see how my friend fares with the coverage in my area before pulling the trigger.

By the by, does anyone have a link to a page explaining all the different Moto X hardware variants please?

Cheers,

Su
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Something like this?

http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php

Well they have them all but the RW variant lol

On a side note I wonder if Motorola/google will put the camera 4.4 updates into the cam app they have in the play store. Would be kinda nice since I doubt we will see 4.4 on the RW Moto X for a couple months at least.
[Moto X General] ryude:
I've been using the RW moto x all day and honestly it gets the same signal strength as my AT&T Nexus 5. Download speeds are about the same too. That said, for $40/mo I get unlimited talk, unlimited texts, and 5GB of LTE. I'm pretty sure that's the best deal on any carrier.
[Moto X General] ap3604:
I am happy Republic Wireless is using the XT1049 version which doesn't have GSM radios.

Reward the customers who actually

want

to use your services by giving them a $200+ discount on hardware and lock out those who simply want to abuse the hardware discount and run to other carriers.
[Moto X General] Cronis:
Oh yea i get why they did it and don't blame em at all. It does limit your options a bit if RW decided to get out of the VoIP business but I guess that's a risk we take.

The had my RW moto x a few days now and its amazing. WiFi calling is smooth and sprints network is acceptable in this area.
[Moto X General] RobertsDF:
I'm Loving my RW moto x. I've had it since Thursday and am getting Pretty good battery life with a good of use. Went 24 hours and was at 4%, Plenty for me. Call quality is great too.

Combined with rooting the phone and motoxposed and gravity box I pretty much have all the features of the custom ROM's on my other devices so I am one happy guy !
[Moto X General] baiju2012:
Question for the owner of the new RW Moto X, how is WiFi calling? Also, how is the Cellular to WiFi handover (and the other direction too)?

Nexus IV
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Handoff only works wifi-->cellular, not cellular-->wifi.

I returned mine today and dropped the cash on a Dev Edition X. I love GSM and the freedom to swap prepaid carriers at my leisure (my # is ported to Google Voice).

Data is dog slow on Sprint (as we all know) and no simultaneous data+voice was difficult for me to accept. I know it's cheap service, but I'm good with $30 - $45 for hella faster data on GSM prepaid providers. I got very irritated saying "Ok Google Now" while on cellular, asking it to search or whatever, then waiting like 15 seconds for the result to come back. GSM LTE/HSPA+ is instantaneous.

The X was nice on Republic, however. I strongly recommend it if you are okay with the tradeoffs of Sprint. It just wasn't for me.
[Moto X General] jbrukardt:
no simultaneous data and voice is false. You can easily minimize a call and look something up while you continue to talk.