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[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
About 3weeks ago my S4 started claiming the SIM kept being removed so was sent back to Samsung for repair. Knox was at 0x1 but it has been returned at 0x0 following the repair. Not sure if this was because they replaced the system board or if they can reset it by other means but clearly in this case they didn't care and refuse the repair.

I have now rooted it using towel root to keep it at 0x0 and I'm happy with the stock room it came back with.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kleest:
Sad story :(

When and where have you bought the phone?

My experience is, that merchants (esp. Amazon) are more customer-friendly in terms of warranty claims than manufacturers. I don't know UK's laws, but I think it's common for all EU countries, that you as customer have a warranty, which the merchants has to fulfill. Atleast this is the case here in Germany.
[Galaxy S 4 General] _alex74_:
not in europe...

.

Got my S4 back from repair (small chassis malformation that deformed a little even front glass)

Replaced everything, firmware factoy reflashed, but still knox 0x1

Warranty was respected......

Stop please with "sammy my last fone ble bla bla", don't want one?? wth are u doing here so?

Buy an iphone muahahah:D:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
What a pain in the arse. It seems which authorised repair centre does the work dictates whether it's repaired or not with Knox at 0x1. Mine was sent to Anovo in Norwich and they changed my system board and replaced the sim/memory module no questions asked, despite Knox being tripped.
[Galaxy S 4 General] neverbeeninariot:
It's annoying...

The phone was bought from Scan in the UK. I contacted them about a return and they said that they would pass the phone to a Samsung repair centre, at which point I expect that the same thing to happen.. However, a comment below here states that a repair was made at Anovo in Norwich with Knox 0x1. It might be worth sending it to Bolton (where Scan are located), to see if their nearest service centre will honour the warranty.

1999/44/EC is written into the UK Sale of Goods Act, so the consumer protections provided by the EU legislation should apply here.

I'm a regular buyer at Scan but so far I've never had to return anything to them, but I have heard that their returns dept are not the most customer friendly... Does anyone have first hand experience with them ?

NBIAR
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Good for you, mate :)

It should be so, but the EU is very big so just check the posts before and after yours by our english mate.

I don't need to buy iPhone, when Samsung is going in the same direction [emoji14]

tetakpatalked from N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
When monkeys and Samsuck employees here says on all threads that Samsuck is the greatest, always repair your phone.... That's what monkeys are saying. We all know the truth. If you want to be protected for root , unlock bootloader, no custom statuszno humidity check, no temp check, triangle away etc etc stay away from Samsung - Samsuck. This is not an genuine brand customer oriented anymore.

In S2 times they even send phones to developers for creating roms, custom kernels, people get used with root, custom rom, kernels but they always deny waranty for this.

It's an business oriented method that get more money to them. For millions of phones that broken down, imagine if they deny waranty for 20-30‰ of them. There are thousands. This means billions for Samsuck.

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Suck-sung!

tetakpatalked from N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] GoNz0:
complete bunch of c***s, will never buy from them again after years of doing so after several RMA experiences. If you dare complain on the forums they use you get it deleted then banned from posting.

basically most stuff scan buy is grey imports with no warranties and they do there own warranty, if they no longer sell it you get a part refund as they take usage into account, it just gets worse from there.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mobilexpert:
not really ...

"cheap 1€ worth plastic toy/ non-premium looking product" is definatly not the same direction as iPhone. :D:D:D

b.r.

Alex
[Galaxy S 4 General] ViD0:
Quick q cause im lil bit confused: Does triggering knox to 0x1 affects any normal usage of your phone( i mean lag , crashing apps etc) or that 0x1 just tell sammy tehnicians that you flashed custom BL or recovery ? does triggering knox do any physical damage to your phone ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] NucDome:
Knox 0x1 has no effect on operation, but it does "physical damage" by burning an efuse. This generates the 0x1 message that informs Sansung that you've loaded an insecure bootloader i.e. a custom ROM.

I just sent my S4 back with 0x1 to Anovo for a warantee repair but they just took a photo of the download screen with the Knox flag and said that I had caused "severe internal damage" to my phone. Basically they're saying that by loading a custom ROM I've burnt an efuse and the phone is uneconomical to repair so not all 0x1 returns slip through the net !
[Galaxy S 4 General] ViD0:
Where are you from, i heard sth that in EU knox 0x1 mean basically nothing cause rooting doesnt avoid your warranty. Problem is that i didnt flash custom rom, flashing older official rom triggered it :/
[Galaxy S 4 General] NucDome:
I'm in the UK. Bought the phone outright from Argos so I want going through my network for the repair. Went through Samsung direct and got knocked back because of the 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tangib1e:
That's actually a pretty solid point right here. I'd be curious to know what magical legal language might exist to describe that you are not allowed to run former versions of official firmware. You should always retain the right to return the device to its original configuration, i.e. rolling it back to what it was the moment you took it out of the packaging. For them to physically damage the device when all you are doing is reverting it to how they sold it to you has to raise some big red flags in every possible kind of consumer court.
[Galaxy S 4 General] HorusEyE:
Is there already any workaround to flash custom ROMs and keep the knox flag untouched?

Enviado do meu GT-I9505 através de Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
maybe JTAG will help you
[Galaxy S 4 General] real_mister:
You succeded to root your S4 mini using towel root? Which model do u use? Can you share the parameters you entered after pressing the "welcome" string 3 times?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/general/root-how-to-obtain-root-permissions-t2862768

I simply followed the instructions in that thread and it worked perfectly for my kernel at the time (GNG8).
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Nope.

Flashing a custom recovery will trip to 0x1

tetakpatalked from N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] Synderelle:
I'm sorry but I just have to ask what I believe is a rhetorical question.. Why is software that was developed in part by the NSA preloaded on our phones? The average cell user like myself has absolutely no use for KNOX. Samsung obviously just wants to know if root was obtained so they can deny warranty work.. I smell desperation..
[Galaxy S 4 General] adeptustech:
No that's s*** from them brown nosing the government.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iakson:
Any Solution I9505 KNOX 0x1 ?? :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] HorusEyE:
Also waiting here. Sick of stock roms.

Sent from my GT9505 with Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
I don´t think so.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Lither:
Deleted
[Galaxy S 4 General] neverbeeninariot:
Rooted i9505 Repaired !

Well, that was unexpected...

After two months of politely and persistently pressing Samsung and repeating the relevant sections of the SGA to them, their customer services team finally agreed to waive the repair fee despite the root status of the phone. I am pretty sure they did this only because of a slip-up by one of their reps saying that my warranty was still valid which happened when they were initially unable to locate my device info. However, my the error on my device occurred within the 6 month window allowed by the SGA so perhaps that message just took time to get to the right person to authorise the repair.

It was shipped to Anovo last week with the message from Samsung 'repair all faults, device is rooted' - Anovo replaced the motherboard, and I have a new screen too which is a surprise because the old one only had a barely visible hairline scratch about 2mm long near the bottom left corner. I'm stoked with the outcome, but it was a long, annoying slog, and it was difficult to remain calm throughout.

My advice to people here with a similar problem is; be polite, be persistent, repeatedly quote the relevant legislation, and try to stay chilled - as difficult as that can be.

Also, follow up with the seller - Believe it or not, Scan UK eventually capitulated and issued an RMA, however this happened while the device was with Anovo for repair; They initially tried to claim that I effected a repair on the device by installing another operating system... When I pointed out how ludicrous that argument was, they backed down.

Time to install Cyanogen again :)

All the best

NBIAR
[Galaxy S 4 General] gaiusbaltar2:
warranty smorranty

I have a Verizon Samsung galaxy s4 build kot49h.i545vrufnc5 with security software mdf version 1.0 release 2. Fortunately phone is at least rooted.

I have two questions

1 ) If we can root the phone, why can't we just hijack the bootup process such that after it reaches a point where it passes control from the rom to the android kernel? When I was young, I use to disable the rom inside commodore 64s to access the full 64k of ram that laid hidden underneath the rom. Or as soon as the splash screen hits why can't we take control then? Maybe code in instructions which point to a new kernel by pointing to a ram memory location instead of rom? I just figure if we can root the phone there has got to be a way. How is verizon updating to 4.4.4? Cant we figure out what security code they use to allow the rom to burn in successfully? Curious as to technically explanation.

2) And at the end of the day, why do I care if knox warranty flag triggers? Does it stop the phone from working with the new rom? Does the warranty flag Brick the phone? I mean if all I have to do is live with a warrantless phone but I get to lose touch wiz and samsungs highly annoying apps, sign me up. I want to try all those roms out there starting with just getting the google play edition to run. The way the phone is now is like Big Brother having a camera on you always knowing your location and forcing you to wear a condom anytime you have sex. The galaxy s4 as is just blows. So much bloat. Touch wiz. I just want to be free.
[Galaxy S 4 General] pitastrudl:
Dude, you can just root it and get over it, heh. And the S4 isnt a Commodore 64, so its not as easy to do it :).
[Galaxy S 4 General] LuisLAN:
I have kind of a "noob" question.

I've been reading this thread but I can't find a complete answer to it.

If I have an S4 I9500 which warranty is already pass it's due date (1 year) what are the possible consequences of having the KNOX flag triggered?

Would it be possible to return to stock firmware of for some reason I decide that I want the full stock Samsung (less KNOX security) experience?

Will it loose any functionality?

Can it be rooted, unrooted, upgraded, downgraded, flashed, etc?

Or anything else beside loosing the possibility of sending the phone to Samsung for a warranty repair.
[Galaxy S 4 General] shoey63:
You can't downgrade afaik, but you should still have full bloatwiz functionality on latest firmware ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
That's right. Full BloatWiz available.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
LOL :D

tetakpatalked from N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] spinky360:
Just remove about.mbn from tar.md5
[Galaxy S 4 General] cameracartwright:
Great post I mistakenly without checking first attempted to root xxudmh8 firmware using cfautoroot (I think a slightly older version) booted ok and super su is there but will not work I guess due to knocks. If I download xxudmh8 and reflash via odin will it remove this attempted root that I have messed up?
[Galaxy S 4 General] SuicideFlasher:
Root is not blocked by knox, it's just a pain in the a*s that will bring your warranty into the grave with itself, but does not affect apps

Our world is ruled by random, and random alone
[Galaxy S 4 General] ozkaya:
that's it? Then I can flash the latest stock firmware through Odin with no side effects?
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeaFargo:
I've Knox Warranty Void 0x1 also

And so I did the mistake. I did the OTA update without reading about it and now I have Knox Warranty Void 0x1.

The reason was I've just tryed to restore the previous OEM firmware I9505XXUBMGA over the I9505XXUDMHB.

The bootup after the OTA update was so infinite time with the SAMSUNG logo that I've tought something goes wrong. So I've reboot in Odin mode and tryed to flash back I9505XXUBMGA. And that's it!!

So I did the following tests:

1. All partition but aboot.mbn are still properly flashable by Odin

2. I've flashed recovery-clockwork-6.0.3.6-jfltexx.img and I've installed cm-10.2. It seems working well, Wi.Fi also. Everything.

3. I've removed aboot.mbn from I9505XXUBMGA , tar, flashed by Odin. The procedure goes well but wi-fi don't turn on!

4. I've flashed back the full oem I9505XXUDMHB but, like after the OTA update, the bootup of the phone goes in "stall" with SAMSUNG logo (the logo is flashing properly). I can confirm that only a full factory reset solve the infinite boot time.

5. The rooting procedure CF-Auto-Root-jflte-jfltexx-gti9505.tar.md5 do works ;)

6. As already written, Triangle Away gives any status counter. And the "allow tracker to run" previously perfectly working, now it doesn't work also.

Even after a fresh flashed I9505XXUDMHB, with it's recovery, no root, Full OEM, the Device Status is still CUSTOM. That is just because I've tryed to flash back the full oem I9505XXUBMGA? What a mess!

What are the actual limitation of having the new locked bootloader, other than the Warranty Void and no OTA updates?

(Crazy thing) I've had a regular Warranty reparation of a Galaxy S3 from Sudden Death with full MIUI on it :P ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
Anyone know if cosmote ro have "old " phones still in stock?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
Indeed. Assuming this is the route Samsung choose to take on all their future flagships, my I9505 is going to be the last phone I buy from them as root and non-stock firmware is essential for me. I'm just glad that I have always avoided Odin unless absolutely necessary and therefore haven't inadvertently updated my bootloader.

The question for me is whether other manufacturers like HTC, LG and Sony are going to follow suit in order to get a piece of the sales pie from security conscious corporations and government departments. But even if they do, hopefully they will go about it in the right way unlike Samsung and have two different devices, one for corporate, and one for the general public.
[Galaxy S 4 General] spinky360:
Read few pages back and you will find a tutorial how to get sound and WiFi back on MGA,MF,ETC...
[Galaxy S 4 General] arovik:
U will get it back to original status again by doing a recovery in KIES. KNOX Warranty will still be 0x1, but at least status will be official
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeaFargo:
Thank you arovik. Previously, and with all other phones, a flash of a complete Stock ROM with Odin

was the same as flashing with Keys

.

It gives official status, official recovery, official everything. Are you sure that this time Custom instead of Official status doesn't depend from KNOX Warranty 0x1?

During the scan process how can it determinate a custom status if everything is stock but KNOX Warranty? I would like to avoid installing the very bad Kies, downgrade my phone and than upgrade by kies, if is not absolutely necessary.

In any case thanks for hepl ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] arovik:
When mine is in download mode it says "official" everywhere except from knox warranty
[Galaxy S 4 General] themissionimpossible:
And what about your device status in settings/device info/status menu?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Skander1998:
The Knox flag is permanent, you can NOT in any way revert it.

Flash a stock ROM (old) and upgrade with Kies, this should set everything (aside from knox) to "official".
[Galaxy S 4 General] EmDzei:
Region lock is opening first time you instert your right region SIM-card. After this unlocking you can use prepaid SIM's when travelling as usually. I think Samsung just try limit buying cheap phones from Asia or elsewhere. You can even buy a SIM-card from eBay to open Asia model. And last, your local Samsung shop can open your phone if you bought outside of your region area.

My question didn't get answer. Was it my bad English or just stupid question. Does this KNOX flag block some official apps/ operatios or not?
[Galaxy S 4 General] donalgodon:
Well, my problem is that buying a phone outside your region is something that many people do today, and I think it's a stupid waste of time to force customers to go to a service center to undo the idiocy of such a scheme in the first place.

Knox flags anything that it sees as suspicious activity, which is a nice idea in theory, but in practice, leaves much to be desired, since most XDA-type folks don't need a babysitter holding their hands. It flags a lot of things that should not be flagged.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeaFargo:
It is an eFuse? It's confirmed?

It is really an eFuse? It's confirmed?

In any case seems I'm still possible to flash whatever custom rom and recovery I like.

How about the compatibility? What information is stored on that locked bootloader? Something that can make some custom rom incompatible?

Seems I'm able to flash custom system, recovery and kernel, I shuld have maximun freedom.

The only problem is the warranty void, but that don't scare me. I'm used to solve software problem by myself, and if I have a serious hardware failure, meybe they are not able or interested in investigating that 0x1 ...

I had an S3 sudden death, warranty replaced, and it has a complete MIUI rom inside :p

In any case, It is really an eFuse? :( It's confirmed? :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Skander1998:
Not confirmed as far as I know, but quite possibly.

Everyone should take extra caution until everything is revealed.

Maybe one day someone will figure out a way to revert it, and No, Samsung shouldn't really annoy you about it, sent my phone several times with CM running and they said nothing, as long as it's hardware, they won't -really- care.

If they do, be persistent.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vesu:
I am currently with stock XXUBMGA and I also did reset flash counter to 0 and now next update is waiting (XXUDMH8) but I really dont know if I should install it or stay with old bootloader for a while.
[Galaxy S 4 General] donalgodon:
I'd delay the update until such time as things are more well understood. There's nothing earth shattering in the changes between the two firmwares (for the better anyway).
[Galaxy S 4 General] vesu:
I guess its the best way to go for now. Any easy method to hide that update notification?
[Galaxy S 4 General] thebestiam:
One question. If I want to claim wareanty with Knox 0x1 will they still repair the device? My device is still in warranty and country is US.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
Please tell me if knox tripped...will screen mirroring s beam nfc work??please anyone tell me...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
Still works.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
I am on note 3 sm n900...i tripped knox and now using vn kitkat rom....cant use nfc s be am or screen mirror....so if i flash stock using odin or kies will everything work except knox or do i have to do anything else??
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
Afaik all functions except KNOX works good. Try a KNOX free deodexed ROM. Don't have that but it comes with Touchwiz and without any Bloatware
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
Thanks..really a relief....vn kitkat is knox free and deodexed...i rooted my phone to have more apps on multiwindow and pen window....also for custom rom...but with rooted stock pen window apps dont work properly...also there are less rom for n900...btw any to be rooted and make the staus official in download mode....?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
Triangle away.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
Does flashing stock with odin make everything on my download mode custom to official(ie.status:official) again....or i must use triangle away for that...?as i am on custom rom will triangle away be still able make download mode official...??
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
If you don't use root you're good to go. On mine it showed official. But I'm on root [custom]
[Galaxy S 4 General] HorusEyE:
Is knox compromised???

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...or-android-found-to-be-completely-compromised
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
are the "odin mode" and the "download mode" same?if anyone flash anything with odin does the name on the screen changes and becomes "odin mode" or its always there before flashing?I recently resetted my knox to 0 and everything official so I just wanna make sure...as for knox its possible to reset samsung exonys note 3 knox...I assume u already know that...
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Yes

tetakpatalked from P5110
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
How did u do that? Is it also working with the Galaxy S4? I mean KNOX bit seems to be an eFuse...
[Galaxy S 4 General] sabitsubin:
everything is working fine....even the knox app itself...I am afraid its only for note 3 exonys sm-n900....I am posting u a link here in xda...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52329946&nocache=1#post52329946

I hope it wil be of help...
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Works only with Exynos, your S4 has Snapdragon AMAIK

tetakpatalked from the legendary i9000
[Galaxy S 4 General] vmmore:
But what about exynos s4??
[Galaxy S 4 General] PR3DATOR Aaron:
OMG

I already trip over knox

Cause i root my Updated GT-I9505

The file name is CF-Auto Root GT-I9505 jtlexxx

And read this KingoRoot website about Trip over Knox

http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm#.VGH3dskZ7qB

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 General] thatrunks:
I sent my Note 3 for repairs (15th of october) and it came back 25h of october. They replaced the battery. Issue was still present (phone was freezing after a few mins). Sent it back again... and now they replaced the board (boardswap).

Before I sent it away, this is what download mode said:

Current Binary: Custom

System status: Custom

React. lock: OFF

Knox kernel lock: 0x0

Knox warranty void: 0x1

Qualcomm secureboot: Enable (CSB)

Write protect: Enable

The knox warranty void came because I rooted it (stock rom), I later installed a custom rom because it was freezing all the time.

And now it says:

Current Binary: Official

System status: Official

React. lock: OFF

Knox kernel lock: 0x0

Knox warranty void: 0x0

Qualcomm secureboot: Enable (CSB)

Write protect: Enable

I take it this is normal because of the board swap?

Just checking...
[Galaxy S 4 General] informatec:
There is no way to clear the "knox warranty void counter" on S4 at the Moment!

So you will not only loose your warranty:

I sent my S4 with original Firmware but Knox Counter 0x1 to a Samsung Repair-Center in Germany because of a flickering display.

I just wanted to do a full Backup (titanium) before I sent the phone ... and there for I root it!

After a few days i get a quotation: They want to replace the board because a third-party software was used. Kost 225,- €

I phone theme and ask for repair on my own cost.

They tell me, they even can not repair my phone on an paid order because samsung will not allow this. So I get it back without repair and sent it to Amazon (Dealer) but get same result. No warranty and no repair.

So now i have to search for a repair-center who is not official Samsung for repairing this pice of **** on my own bill.

Thats enough with samsung for me. Will order One plus One as soon i get an invite.

Ray