yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I guess not - a shame as I'm still enjoying the watch and was hoping that [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] or [MENTION=2884529]Max Powers[/MENTION] might be able to make it even better.

Hopefully one day I'll get time to look into it and learn how to make a custom rom....
[Other SmartWatches] titoodj:
This smartwatch works with iPhone?

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
It is a standalone watch phone, not a companion device like the pebble.
[Other SmartWatches] titoodj:
But i cant sync via BT with my iphone and sync contacts, calls, ... like the other smartwatches?
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
No. I think we need a different name - a pebble is a smartwatch, this is a watchphone. Or perhaps this is a smartwatch, and the pebble is a featurewatch....

I believe the Omate Truesmart is designed to do both, and maybe the companion app might work on other watchphones like this one, but it's not really intended to be used that way. This is a standalone phone, just like any other android phone, it just happens to be strapped to your wrist.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Sorry guys. I've been all over the place busy. I'm trying to get the Omate Companion app dev to make it available for more devices. Even if it were a pay app it would be more than worth it.

On the ROM side I'm still working on things. The battery level reporting issue is a problem and continues to be. Also without source code it's more hunting down things that can be changed vs a new build. I'm also trying to untangle myself from other projects as well.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Thanks [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION], from reading the other forums it sounds like you haven't been having much fun with the Omate lately... I was quietly hoping that might free up some of your time to look at this one instead! :)
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
ec309

No it's a stand alone mobile phone and tablet/watch.

It has android 4.0.4 and is capable of running some apps from the app store, like raging thunder 2 and riptide gp 2.

I haven't found an app yet to sync messages from other android iphone devices yet that will run on mine.

I would also be careful with buying the model watch i have posted pictures of (hopu/sWaP ec309) its very average quality in assembly.

My band had a threaded screw that caused the band to fall apart while i was walking and it snapped the cable that joins the watch/tablet mainboard to the sim card tray in the band.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION] fyi - my vendor sent me a second ec309, which I received yesterday, and the GPS works fine. His theory was that the GPS antenna had been detached somehow in transit, but the new one certainly works better. Reliable fix in less than 30s. Very happy with it, and very impressed at the ebay seller who sent me another without even waiting for me to return the 1st.

[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] this second one came with a slightly newer ROM - H18.SMART.CO.V2.0.20140114. Not sure if you or anyone else are still interested in custom ROMs for this watch, but if so and you'd like a new dump, then let me know.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
[MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION] - what is the battery life like on the replacement unit?

Sold my unit at reduced price to someone on eBay on the understanding that the GPS didn't work properly (but everything else did). In any case, my objective is to get through as many smart watches as I can -- reviewing as I go -- but with the intention of keeping and further documenting whichever models "really" impress me. The EC309 TIGON gave some idea of what is possible from a standalone smartwatch, but was not quite "the one".
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Alas battery life doesn't appear any better - still the biggest problem I have with this watch. Under "regular" use for me, I can only get through about 6 hours. Enough for most days when I have a charger at work and at home, but useless for going out for the day. Look forward to seeing what you find next, hopefully the one is out there somewhere! :)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
[MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION]

Run it with the new firmware for a couple days and see how it does with battery life and all. If it looks good then I'll try to take a look at it. I can't make any promises as I unfortunately have found myself in the middle of a possible firestorm that is well beyond Omate's influence regard MTK in general.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Sorry to hear it [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION], hopefully it gets sorted out OK. At the moment I'm just happy having a working GPS so in no rush to mod anything. If you find yourself with any free time and feel like looking at this watch again then let me know.
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
ec309

The one i had was using the new firmware..

It still suffered from poor battery life (5-9hours even when under clocked to 250-500mhz).

And still had severe overheating issues when wifi/blutooth was on :(

It also really sucked with it's mobile signal, i would miss a lot of calls as it always seemed to have bad signal.

Im kinda glad i kicked the crap out of mine after the threaded screw came out of the band and broke the simcard tray ribbon..
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Yeah, battery life is definitely still crap, don't think there's any improvement from the previous firmware to this one. Signal for me is fine, but I'm more using this as a secondary device rather than my main phone, so don't care quite so much. Still hoping that some dev might have some magic fix for the battery, but not holding out much hope.
[Other SmartWatches] Smockingjacket:
I've managed to get 48 hours plus on mine with minimal use and GPS, wifi BT etc turned off. Airplane mode seems to really save the the consumption.

Anyway, Ive a small question. I've seen many pictures online of this watch at it appears to have at least 5 watch displays. I've updated the software on mine etc but it still only has 3. I really want a digital clockface so was wondering where I could get one and how would I go about installing it?

Any help in this matter would be gratefully received.

I can also vouch for the quality of Skype on this watch. I'm in Japan as was able to get a good clear wifi signal to test it out. I was surprised to see that the watch camera is used as a webcam when on Skype. Both of us could hear each other well and there was no sound problems.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I spent a while trying different apps and lockscreens, and eventually paid for the full version of the omate watchfaces app. I find it works really well, the different faces are great and the notifications on the watch faces are fantastic. I think it's worth paying for, but up to you.
[Other SmartWatches] Smockingjacket:
Thanks for the heads up!

By the way chaps, I was doing some testing of my own today with Utter on the EC309. Utter is a voice command ap which grants the user the ability to issue voice instructs to the unit.

First I install initial apk and listed to the tutorial. Alas it kept saying "cannot locate google voice search". I downloaded the APK for that too and installed it. However, it refuses to run on the phone and crashes when I try.

BUT!

I went back to Utter just to see what would happen AND IT WORKS!. So far I've managed to make it operate the phones camera, run skype and increase the brightness of the screen. I'll report back if I uncover anything else.

The developer of Utter sure is a genius.
[Other SmartWatches] zooster:
I'm not sure which smartwatch to pick, Swap EC309 or Omate True smart.

Can you help me saying pros a cons of both?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Have both.

EC309

Pros

Tri-band 3G

Lighter

Cons

Older CPU

Slower

Far more security holes

Shorter battery life

Pro/Con

Very wide band (feels more like a cuff)

Aluminium case (back is plastic and not sealed)

No companion mode (third party apps and workarounds has to be used)

Umeox x201 (Pearl AW-414/420/421, iconBIT Callisto 100, Omate TrueSmart, Vapirius xTouch, xTouch Wave)

Pros

Sturdier construction materials

Newer CPU

Faster (think GSII level of performance)

Better battery life

Few security holes

Major dev support (Adam Outler, Dees Troy, ClearD, ChiefzReloaded)

Cons

Still has major security holes (this is being worked on)

No companion mode (third party apps and workarounds has to be used)

Mono band 3G (1900 OR 2100)

Inaccurate official specs (not IP67, not sapphire screen, not 1.3GHz. Need to know who to trust and where to look for factual info)

Very slow delivery (TrueSmart)

No service/repair support at this time (TrueSmart)

Pros/Cons

Heavier case materials (think Casio G-Shock in size and weight, [MENTION=1557904]110[/MENTION]g)

From just a device standpoint, I think the x201 is a far better device with fewer unresolvable issues. The x201 should still be considered an evolving device. Just dealing with Omate is a pain most of the time as they are still in PR/Spin mode.
[Other SmartWatches] zooster:
What about display quality ? Ec309 has an oled one, is it better?

And how long does omate last in real world?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
The EC-309 is not OLED

Batterylife on the x201 depends on usage. This is what I have recorded so far in the bench tests (under benchmarks)
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
OK, I only have the EC309, but I can't honestly recommend it. The idea is great, and I still use it every day, but it's really more like a toy. The main problem is battery life. It still can't get me through a day unless I put it on flight mode. Other than that everything works, but it only just works. It's not reliable or high quality in any way.

I think with either of these devices, you're looking at the alpha release. If you're really prepared to work at it, you have something a little special, but don't expect it to just work. The OTS at least has a group of devs trying to make it better, so it has a chance of improving over time, where as I think the EC309 is stuck where it is.
[Other SmartWatches] zooster:
Does Google play services work on Omate True Smart?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I wouldn't call the x201's an alpha. Here's what doesn't work on the x201's;

Wake apps (U.S. 1900 Model ONLY)

BT Tethering (All models require a work around)

The EC-309 if doesn't have working BT tether either. Wake apps seem to work though. The problem is lack of source and the MT6577 is nearing end of life.

What do you mean by "really prepared to work at it"? Ensec/Operative takes five minutes may six from the time you download til done.

Yes. Just look here to see everything the EnSec/Operative installer adds

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[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Sorry if I've offended at all - really talking about the EC309, and assuming from what I've read about the x201 that it's probably similar. Apologies if my assumptions are wrong. The EC309 is not an apple, you can't just take it out of the box and expect it to work exactly the way it should. It's the sort of device that you need to try quite a few apps before you find one that works properly. But when you find one that works, it's great. All the features on the EC309 work, but they really don't work that well. Reception is questionable, the GPS is very average, it's slow and battery life is terrible. By alpha, I mean that I don't think it's ready for the mass market yet, and I'm pretty sure that's correct for the EC309.

As I said the x201's have much more potential due to developer support. It seemed like there were a lot of problems with the stock firmware, that Omate wasn't really able to solve. Glad to hear you've managed to fix just about all of them, and that's exactly why I wouldn't recommend the EC309. Without the support of either the manufacturer or a good group of devs, it's always going to have problems that have no way to get solved.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
No offense taken. They are both a pain in the butt from a what's missing/needs work stand point. Honestly, I think all the Android based standalone smartwatches are at this point. The main firmware issues on the TS are also present on all it's sister models. This is more Mediatek's garbage precompiled builds than anything else. Mediatek simply doesn't care.

If source is acquired for the x201 then 99% of this will be fixed and probably merged into official firmware at some point. The only shortfall will then be full app compatibility to deal with the square display. That of course will come in time.

The 309 was/is frustrating for me as things like simple build.prop edits ended up requiring reflashing firmware. Also some of the security issues were core level and never could get them fixed. I'd definitely call the 309 an early beta device. If proper source was available for the 309 things may be different.
[Other SmartWatches] Smockingjacket:
Well I hadn't owned my 309 for a week before the micro usb port bust. It now charges but won't connect to the computer. I've tried several machines and cables.

Is there anywhere that would be able to repair it?

Also, google play on mine never works. It crashes constantly. Same with bluetooth.

I am considering getting a truesmart as a result, but I am very untrusting of paypal so need to wait until they become available on other stores.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
My USB will only connect with the computer using the cable that came with it. Other cables will charge it but not connect. Not sure if it's just the length of the plug or something else that's different. Google play has always worked perfectly, as has bluetooth.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] - the guy I bought my EC309 from said they were about to bring out a 3rd edition of the watch, and could I recommend anything that might make it better software wise? .... The source code!!!! Give us the source code!!!!! (Still hoping...)
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
Watch out for the charger that comes with it - mine exploded last night
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
I was just playing with my EC309 again, after not using it for a couple of months. I wonder, is there any custom ROM out yet? I was searching all over the net, couldn't find a thing... :/

Except:

I realise you stopped working on it, right [MENTION=5735581]Max Powerz[/MENTION] ?

But could you maybe tell me, how you managed to get rid of that Hopu watch face lockscreen app? It's annoying that it can't be switched off or uninstalled by default... :(
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
Nevermind, I figured out which application I had to delete. The annoying watch face lockscreen is gone now.
[Other SmartWatches] CubeCloudOS:
Sorry if this isn't related

Sorry if this isn't related... Can someone confirm this EC-309 has Android 4.1?

If so can someone system dump the NANDROID or TWRP backup and send it to me?

Trying to port 4.1 to the ZGPAX S5 and cannot seem to edit the boot.img properly.

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] squeenix:
[MENTION=3679138]CubeCloudOS[/MENTION] Unfortunately the EC309 has only 4.0.4 ICS.
[Other SmartWatches] jonnynik:
backup ec309

hello cubecloudos

I have an ec309 tigon and is already root from the factory

I installed TWRP and I made the backup

280 mb are backup

if you give me an email in private I give you

greetings jonnynik
[Other SmartWatches] pelopicopata1969:
Hi Jonny,

Can you explain how you've installed the TWRP and where I can find the files?.

Thank you very much and greetings
[Other SmartWatches] jonnynik:
hi pelopicopata1969

as already said

the clock is already root from the factory

I installed TWRP from play store and I made the backup

I'm sorry for the English I'm Italian
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Hello,

I bought E-Ceros EC309, but it' s not arrived until now.

On the (private?)-sellers picture, the speaker is below the screen.

On the vendors-picture http://e-ceros.com/smart/ the speaker ist above the display.

Is this watch different from the others of EC309?

Battery: 600 mAh.
[Other SmartWatches] yossio:
Hello everyone

Does someone have a download link for the original firmware or backup for the EC309

or better, custom and more functional firmware for the EC309?

I own one and It's bricked now :crying::crying:

Thanx in advance!
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
After playing with this watch, I have two little questions:

Is it possible, to go directly to the homescreen instead of the analog watch?

-> See here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2575556

My google calendar is not syncing.

-> Fixed with GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk

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Build number: H18-ECROS.CO.V1.0.20140411.

Kernel: 3.0.13 SMP PPREEMPT Sat Apr 12 12:36:19 CST 2014
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Is there a known problem with mobile data?

I have only 2G or 3G data, if WLAN is enabled.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Never had a problem with mobile data on this watch. I don't really ever use WLAN, and both 2G and 3G work fine.

Still pretty happy with the way it works, the only major issue I have is the battery, which may even be getting worse.... If only someone could optimise the ROM or I could put a decent battery in it that would last a day, I'd be happy. As it is, it's just about useless.
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Thanks for the answer. Currently does the data transfer. Probably my network provider had problems. The wifi reception is very poor, but that's no problem.

If I'm in an area with good GSM reception, the battery lasts for little use much more than 12 hours. If reception is poor / no reception, the battery is dead after only 2 hours of standby. That would have to be optimized.

This black E-CEROS version is 100% not waterproof.

I opened the battery cover because it was loose and have seen that there is no 600 mAh battery installed, but only 560 mAh.

There is still room for a bigger battery in the battery cover.

The microphone is good, the speaker could be louder.

The response to this device were previously exclusively positive.

When I say how little I paid for it, they are all very surprised. I hope it works at least one year.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Well you're doing better than me - I only have 500mAh, I used to get through 12 hours, but now it seems to be dropping, these days it seems closer to 8.. If anyone knew about a bigger battery that would fit, I'd love to hear about it. Happy to lose the vibration motor if I could get a bigger battery in there. I'm starting to use it less often as the battery just doesn't last long enough to be useful.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
1200mAh

Finally managed to get my watch to last through the day! :)
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Can you tell more about this? (is vibrator possible, 7.4 mm thickness)
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Yep, 7.4mm thick, vibration motor had to go, back cover doesn't fit on - But worth it to last a bit longer!

Battery seems good now, not sure how many cycles it will do though:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-7V-1200mAh-743638-Lithium-Polymer-Li-Po-Rechargeable-Battery-For-Mp3-MP4-MP5-GPS-PSP/1748449202.html
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
I have tried many apps with EC309 and two of them have proved to be very helpful:

There was a GSM signal loss issue with EC309, Android 4.04 and my provider (1&1 / vodafone.de). Unfortunately I didn't find a firmware update, but it was possible, to minimize this issue (and no signal battery drain) with [Signal Guard (Pro)].

In order to settle down the vibrator, I have installed [Customize Vibrator].

[Q] I have no bluetooth issues with handset Sony SBH52 and others, but must re-pair my i-tec Solar CarKit after every disconnection. Is it possible, to fix this?
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Has anybody tested this rom:

http://www.needrom.com/download/mlais-smartwatch-mx50/

on EC309?

Is it possible, to install it on EC309?
[Other SmartWatches] icke68746:
Hi typo (Tippfehler), I got the e-Ceros Smart at Christmas. I can make a backup and send.

Greetings and Merry Christmas, Icke

PS: We can I rooting the phone?

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Hi Tippfehler, ich habe das E-Ceros Smart zu Weihnachten bekommen. Ich kann Ihnen ein Backup machen und zuschicken.

Gruß und frohe Weihnachten, Icke

PS: Wie kann ich das Handy rooten?
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Hi icke,

It should be rooted.

Can you please write down the firmware version and date?

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Vielen Dank,

welche Firmware hat Dein EC309?
[Other SmartWatches] icke68746:
Android 4.0.4

Basebandversion: MAUI 11.AMD.W12.22.SP.V1 2012/06/05 21:23

Kernel-Version: 3.0.13

mtk@mtk-desktop #2

SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 12 12:36:19

CST 2014

Erstellungsnummer: H18.ECEROS.CO.V1.0.2014011

Erstellungsversion anpassen: KCT_WATCH_V10
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
My rom has the same dates.

How is your reception? Is your phone losing the signal?

Is your sim card T-Mobile, Vodafone, O2 or E-Plus?

Good to know, that I'm not alone with this EC309 or the last owner worldwide.
[Other SmartWatches] icke68746:
I'm using for 5 years only watch mobile phones. As this is the first, which requires a micro-SIM. Unfortunately Vodafone has not yet made it (after 1.5 weeks) to send me.

When I use the phone, I write it to you. The next week I'll have punch the SIM card.

Currently I have problems with the battery. Unfortunately, he is after 4 hours load only 81% filled. Will sometimes let him invite a whole night.

Currently I'm using the Android Z1. The reception is not very good at all watch phones. I think the antenna (I think it is wrapped around the screen) can no longer afford physically.

Greeting Icke

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Ich verwende seit 5 Jahren ausschließlich Uhrenhandys. Nur dieses ist das erste, welches eine micro-SIM braucht. Leider hat Vodafone es noch nicht geschafft (nach 1,5 Wochen) mir eine zu schicken.

Wenn ich das Handy verwende, schreibe ich es Ihnen. In der nächsten Woche werde ich die SIM-Karte stanzen lassen.

Zur Zeit habe ich Probleme mit dem Akku. Leider ist er nach 4 Stunden laden nur zu 81% gefüllt. Werde ihn mal eine ganze Nacht laden lassen.

Zur Zeit verwende ich das Android Z1. Der Empfang ist bei allen Uhrenhandys nicht besonders gut. Ich denke die Antenne (ich glaube sie ist um den Bildschirm gewickelt) kann physikalisch nicht mehr leisten.

Gruß Icke
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
Unfortunately, I have to send back or throw away my EC309.

When I move the bracelet, the connection between the motherboard and the SIM card is broken. The top strap must be replaced.

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It is replaced now and the EC309 is working again.
[Other SmartWatches] aleandro76:
hello. someone can tell me where I can find a rom for ec309 (eceros, tigon, goophone, swap)? I tried the rom of the MX50 but has some problems ..
[Other SmartWatches] Tippfehler:
I have problems with my nvram an IMEI.

Often it is not possible to connect to the network. It connects and then it blocks - no service. If I change the IMEI, everything seems to be fine for a few hours, then no service again. If I change the IMEI to a different, I have service again for a few hours. Sometimes it is enough to power off the phone for a few minutes.

It is not very comfortable to change the IMEI every day.

Sometimes the phone becomes very hot, the wp8 launcher is flickering, the icons are changing the position and the back button on the side of the phone is not working. If I press the display-off-button and on, it is good again.

Is it a virus?

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I'm back to the MLAIS rom and it seems to be more stable.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
How do u root this thing:confused::confused:
[LG Optimus 3D] galaxy76:
I bought a new touch screen for my optimus 3d. but it does not work ONLY on ICS!

it works well on all versions! (froyo = OK; gingerbread = OK)

why does this happen?

how can I fix?
[LG Optimus 3D] Karim Kahale:
Are you sure you bought the right screen and the official one, not a crap one?
[LG Optimus 3D] galaxy76:
no I'm not sure. but how do I know if it is right?

anyway, how come it only works on ginger and froyo?

I'm sure you can explain it better. please

thanks
[HTC One X] vegetaleb:
Hello!

I want to offer the One X to my gf for her bday,though she's traveling to the US next month and I wonder if she can use a One X for European/Asian networks in the US,specially Washington and New York.

She will buy a sim card there