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[Galaxy S 4 General] lockieio:
Who cares about samsung and f***ing knox.

Im buying Oneplus One.

Bye bye Sam****...
[Galaxy S 4 General] robygt:
+1

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] edie209:
My camera failed and I sent it to be repaired after I had rooted my phone and had installed a different ROM.I reset the phone to an original ROM and used Triangle away to remove the boot up message however the knox flag was still 0x1. I was contacted to be told my warrenty was now void and the only way they would repair it was to pay for a new motherboard.

Anyone else have this experience?
[Galaxy S 4 General] skarma103:
root doesn't void S**t on a nexus
[Galaxy S 4 General] Bordo_Bereli51:
My proximity sensor was not working. After that i went to the samsung service shop and they told me,that my warranty is void. they said that the they will repair only when i pay for a new motherboard. My knox was 0x1 too.
[Galaxy S 4 General] oracle01642:
I seen somewhere that if you go to the Samsung UK website and get their number or email address, they send you a package to put your phone in and send off to them. Apparently they have repaired phones this way with the knox flag tripped.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sauron82:
Really? Did LG tell you that?

Click thanks if I helped you
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Guys it's different in all countries.

You need to respect that they tell you that if you root your phone it will void the warranty.

This isn't the case everywhere. some people are more kind of this line.

If you root your phone it won't void your warranty in all cases. It's if the root is the cause of your problem and if you're misbehaving the warranty purposes when it's your issue that your phone is misbehaving.

Usually it's not the users fault when it's a H/W issue, but when it is and they see that you got root they can tell you that you won't get any warranty because it's something you've done when you rooted the device.

Simple as that. It's if they know it's root that didn't cause you the trouble they'll have to repair it (unless you dropped it or something else)

There's a "law" that says that rooting won't affect your warranty. And yes you can fight it. The service center has to prove that the root caused the issue(yes root access can damage your phone) it can kill your IMEI kill your device if you mess up it badly. If the phone is stone dead. well they hardly care to check what caused the issue they assume it's a bad motherboard and they'll swap it in no time. (They did so on mine) had root and Knox 0x1 but they didn't bother to check.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skarma103:
Nope , google did

research on it , u just presume it cause thats what every oem does because they can
[Galaxy S 4 General] sauron82:
Where is that law? What country? I'm guessing somewhere in the EU.

Except that Google does not build the Nexus. That's LG, and Samsung before them. And root voids warranty for LG. Google doesn't actually build anything. So unless Google provides the warranty for Nexus instead of LG... I'm gonna need someone with firsthand knowledge (it was their Nexus device). Rooted Nexus with warranty intact.

Never bought a Nexus, never plan to. No SD card is a dealbreaker for me, amongst other things.

And also, don't forget, it's ultimately up to the guy at the desk when you take it in. One person at the service place might say no, and a different person at the same place on a different day might say yes.

Click thanks if I helped you
[Galaxy S 4 General] raffmann:
Samsung sucks with this "feature"
[Galaxy S 4 General] skarma103:
Actually the devices sold on the play store have warranty from Google , not lg

And no , someone asked a rep and google said that they don't care as long as root didn't lead to a hardware issue , if there's a prob they send you a phone , you put your phone in the box and send it back

Why don't you talk to a google rep n find out on your own ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] louiscar:
EU Directive 1999/44/CE

http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
[Galaxy S 4 General] FPSUsername:
I'm sorry to say this, but knox sounds more like a heavy virus. You can not remove it completely, once the flag is 0x1 it is impossible to return.

I hope that there will be something developed like triangleaway for knox.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
lol samsung leak's their own software?

usually there's insiders that leaks it to outsiders and the outsiders leaks it.

you know they'll get fired (they'll say)

wonder how it wen't with the kid that leaked the knox reset for Note 3

i thogught he was hunted down and locked in in samsung's basement :laugh:

and that was the solution for letting exynos devices get their warranty back :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] ky513385003:
i think its helpful~~
[Galaxy S 4 General] robfre:
KNOX 0X1

I tried to ROOT my device. I made a mistake. Did not work for some reason. Never mind.

Now I run Software 4.4.2.

My Note 2014 editon has KNOX 0X1. So what? Everything is working fine.

Why should I worry?

If my Note breaks or what ever, I buy a new one.
[Galaxy S 4 General] wappiesoft:
i need a username and a password
[Galaxy S 4 General] pda4g:
what are you talking about
[Galaxy S 4 General] ky513385003:
Also interested in this..
[Galaxy S 4 General] johnathanamber:
Is there a way to avoid tripping the KNOX Warranty Bit?

Hey guys,

I've noticed that many posts are attempting to reset or change the Warranty Bit back to 0x0... but is there a way to avoid tripping it but rooting or installing a secured bootloader?

I've recently replaced my SGH-T999 with the same model which had the latest 4.3 build, KNOX enabled of course. I would, at the very least, like to root the current stock ROM so I can clean it up a little more. Has anyone found a way to do this without tripping KNOX?

BTW, I know some on here have worked hard to understand KNOX and how it works... any good posts to better understand this and why/how it gets tripped?

Thanks guys,

Johnathan
[Galaxy S 4 General] djdedonrg:
A solution to knox bootloader??

I just read this and it made me very interesting, burn the bootloader from a sdcard. They will be able to downgrade bootloader with this, or at least you can flash another bootloader like I9505G

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f777/hot-hot-easy-repair-boot-samsung-s4-i9500-via-sd-card-1693343/
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
but it doesn´t have anything to do with knox 0x1...
[Galaxy S 4 General] devilyuri:
Maybe we can use it to downgrade to 4.3 bootloader
[Galaxy S 4 General] tomxass:
I think its impossible. KNOX is safe almost a year and many people dont find any solution how to reset it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] resudo:
I think Chain fire has found a way to reset KNOX but he is not releasing it for legal purposes.
[Galaxy S 4 General] edzamber:
Where have you read this information ?

Posté via Pyrana v44 by Alan-B

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53646684
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
yes who gave you this Information???????????????

WE WANNA KNOW
[Galaxy S 4 General] willwaush:
Honestly i don't think so.
[Galaxy S 4 General] pda4g:
I do not think

With its root still activated Knox counter

geohot showed that it is possible (without tripp knox)
[Galaxy S 4 General] resudo:
I actually watch a lot of threads regarding KNOX. I'm pretty sure I have read this in one of them but don't quote me on that.

EDIT : I will do some research, maybe I can find it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] hem0101:
Is it possible to downgrade i9500 international version to 4.3 ?

So we can root and install custom rom?

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Towelroot root i9505 without tripping knox as people says ...

If its true can we installed i9505 firmware on i9500 via odin and than root via towelroot??

Is it possible ??
[Galaxy S 4 General] chudy_85:
No don't flash software from i9505 to your i9500 using Odin
[Galaxy S 4 General] varjis:
,,. Pop, pöpö,, , p0,mutta Jos on
[Galaxy S 4 General] Trancicted:
I've rooted it using towelroot and it didn't trip KNOX! Everything is still "official" in download mode!
[Galaxy S 4 General] maverick7777:
any help with returning to 4.2.2

Hi Guys

I basically bought the S4 around 6 months ago, it was on 4.2.2 so knox free. I rooted safely and installed roms via CWM so still knox free unsure about flashing counter but more than likely this has increased. I want to get a S5 so want this back to stock.

I want to go back to 4.2.2 official Samsung can anyone tell me the easiest method to go back to stock and have it as if it was official with 0 counter, also can you point me to the Samsung generic unlocked version of 4.2.2 uk.

Many thanks guys

Mav
[Galaxy S 4 General] FlanjeUK:
Flash stock XXUBMGA from Sammobile using Odin.

Triangle away can reset the flash counter too :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] sibellius:
thank you . i do the same :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] dh4645:
weird situation

when i first got my s4 last year i rooted it and had the knox 0x1 and custom unlocked padlock ever since.

i recently just upgraded from 4.2.2 MF3 to 4.4.2 NC1 with the help of fellow xda'ers and my knox went back to 0x0 and no custom padlock for the last few weeks since i updated/rooted with towelroot and froze all the knox/ota update apps with titanium.

i've been messing with xposed and modules for the last week without issues, today i activated a module for controlling media with the hardware keys and then froze the Isis app with titanium (just because i was looking through all my apps and read about Isis & that i'll never use it).

upon reboot so the xposed module changes would take effect, i'm getting the custom unlocked padlock again (system status: custom) and my knox is still 0x0.

i have a safestrap recovery from last week i could restore if i really cared to.

why do we get the custom padlock thing?

strange.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
can you please upload your backup for trying it?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] dh4645:
u mean my safestrap backup? are you nuts? it's 5 GB and it's a 100% backup of all my stuff. ha
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
sorry just thought youll have a normal backup without stuff
[Galaxy S 4 General] abilash10:
hi friend i am in trouble and i am new i android ,, i also rooted my grand 2 dous sm g7102 kitkat 4.4.2 as cwm processs it okey but before rooting i get the update about 21 mb files by ota and i rooted my phone and after rooting i thought i want to unroot again and download firmware from sam mobile and after while flashing i get this message in odin

<ID:0/003> Added!!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> G7102XXUBNG4_G7102ODDBNG4_G7102DDUBNF4_HOME.tar.md 5 is valid.

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/003> Initialzation..

<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/003> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/003> aboot.mbn

<ID:0/003> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/003> sbl1.mbn

<ID:0/003> FAIL! (Auth)

<ID:0/003>

<ID:0/003> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

IN DEVICE

odin mode

product name:Sm g7102

current binary :custom

system status::custom

qualcom secureboot :enable (cbs)

rp swrev:s2, t2, r2, a2 ,p2

udc start

sw rev check fail: [sbl 1] fused 2 > binary 1 in device

screen shot below

guys saying knox prevent form updating so when i insatll new stock g7 will i again get failed to update ? please kindly reply to me :( some saying due to g4 u donot flash u need g7.. :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] djdedonrg:
QSEE TrustZone Kernel Integer Overflow Vulnerability

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/qsee-trustzone-kernel-integer-overflow-t2840415
[Galaxy S 4 General] andreasyeah:
I don't get the point of knox. I mean I know it provides some kind of sandboxing on some apps for better security but what does this have to do with the knox warranty?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Trancicted:
Knox warranty monitors if you've modified your device. If they ever noticed you've tampered your phone, Samsung thinks it's not secure enough so it trips the flag. It's like a "warranty void if removed"-seal.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Junpei_Shibayama:
KNOX Warranty Void?

U have done Triangle away. But is it also revoking knox 0x1? I guess no. Only the flash Counter.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
Triandgle away will mot reset knox 0x1 maybe a new emm chip but i don´t have any schematic where ist located at the pcb or partnuber hopefullly someone has the schematic and the Location of the emmc.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DualJoe:
Is this related to kernel only (zImage) or the whole partition? I want to create a twrp recovery with prebuilt/original kernel. I already did this for some China tablets that don't provide sources for their devices.
[Galaxy S 4 General] maverick7777:
Thanks m8,

sorry been away for a while, should I use triangle away first or after flash, also using odin wont trigger knox? should I use a custom recovery to flash rom instead?

thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
Flash first stock and then triangle away if your Counter is not 0x1 yet. good luck
[Galaxy S 4 General] devilyuri:
As Said knox value doesn't affect the warranty
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
here is the schematic can someone tell me where the emmc is located?

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rwikhc525fvybml/AAARI7CDO9xd6KeMJf9io3O5a
[Galaxy S 4 General] maverick7777:
Hi guys,

any help please, ive flashed stock I9505XXUBMGA_I9505OXXBMG3_BTU via Odin dowloaded from Sammobile. I now get no wifi and a security prevention warning?, plus my system still says custom.

Please help

Thanks

Mav
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
knox still 0x0 and did you a factory reset after flashing?
[Galaxy S 4 General] sku||:
can root make hardware fail ? Because some samsung guys said that ? Should I unroot ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
unroot it and do a full data/factory reset
[Galaxy S 4 General] sku||:
Er ?? What the hell are you talking about?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
cannot do a Hardware failure just unroot it and do a factoryreset

knox still 0x0?
[Galaxy S 4 General] ireun:
Man stop posting, first learn English, than post in English.

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka

---------- Post added at 05:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:35 PM ----------

No, it can't.

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy S 4 General] olokos:
Root by itself can't make any hardware failure at all...

Then*
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
It can but you'll have to find out how not going to tell.
[Galaxy S 4 General] devilyuri:
If You want to restore your system status just reflash your country or brand stock rom then wipe data and cache
[Galaxy S 4 General] spinky360:
Fellows.

I found how to get rid of Knox.

I bought a nexus 5

Good luck with Knox.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vmmore:
Anyway guys. ..my warranty is over now..and already used my knoxed S4 for one year. .now it doesn't matter for mi..but if dev get succeeded in resetting KNOX, it will definitely help other fresh users. . So best wishesh for our GREAT XDA DEVS.
[Galaxy S 4 General] FlanjeUK:
You get a 24 month warranty with Samsung... ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
From what i read Samsuck offer only 12 months in a lot of countries.

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy S 4 General] vmmore:
Yes..in india samyy gives only 1 yr. Warranty
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
In Austria its 2 years by the way

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You all routed and knox is 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 General] Ganjax:
Samsung Polska gave me reply for question "Service will repair my device, when my knox is 0x1?"

Samsung Polska: Flag itself doesn't result in loss of warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
They lie because you post it on socialcrapware..... If you send them an mail, call them you will see the true answer.

Pls do that call them, rec them and post the call here. Thanks

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy S 4 General] robygt:
Epic Nexus is epic.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
they want Imei model and much more Details so I dont send them any mail...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
now rhey told me that i lost my waranty...
[Galaxy S 4 General] cybertex2013:
I do not care I want to customize my owned device. I could understand Samsung and their policy (overclockers) but they could loose more customers in the future. There a lot of other great phones on the market without knox.
[Galaxy S 4 General] spinky360:
Lol... At the beginning when I said that warranty is void you all laugh at me
[Galaxy S 4 General] Dip88:
Knox is important for highly secured stuffs in mobile....bad for custom rom users
[Galaxy S 4 General] Klaus4:
not only i had some issues with OTA and then it went to 0x1 with two devices...
[Galaxy S 4 General] behemot24:
I didn't, but I do now :))
[Galaxy S 4 General] craige:
Just bought Note 3 Neo and was thinking of upgrading to Kitkat (Official via OTA), but afterwards was also thinking of rooting so that to enable app save to SD card. Now, after seeing this I am **** scared! as I am not much savy with rooting and stuff and I fear I might activate knox.

So maybe I can use some inputs from you all.

PS: There is no Knox software anywhere it seems.. any idea how to confirm if my phone indeed having knox? Running Android jellybean 4.3.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewa12321:
You can move apps to SD Memory card but apps can't save/create files in SD card.

To check if you have KNOX counter you have to turn your phone to "Download Mode", instructions you find for your phone in Google. If within this tiny text you find "KNOX WARRANTY BIT" every unofficial modification (root, unofficial Rom) will kill your warranty forever. You can download app Phone INFO from Google Play Store to check if you have Knox.

PS you cant delete Knox if you get it, like a app. You can't disable or reset it. Lose of warranty is permanent for now if you trigger change of Knox warranty bit from 0x0 to 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 General] olokos:
Root by itself is just giving you the superuser rights. Having superuser rights and not doing anything with them won't do any harm.
[Galaxy S 4 General] craige:
Thx for info abt knox. I did check my phone its there under Security -> Device administrators (unchecked).

Also, after kitkat update if I can move apps to SD as you said above, then I wonder why such a big fuss everybody is making ? You think I can move games on SD card... or most popular games will face problems due to write restrictions?

Also, can you confirm if we can save photos/videos taken with phones camera can be saved to SD directly after kitkat update.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
My Knox-free Note 2 is my last Samsuck's phone.

I also advice now all my friends and family to keep fingers off Samsuck and buy other phones instead, free world is Knox-free.

Knox you, Samsung!

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
Note 2 was the best samsuck phone. It has mali gpu, this one is awsome on games, with mali all games are working nice

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Exactly, good bye SUCK-Sung! :D

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
[Galaxy S 4 General] robygt:
Sir, You are instantly and permanently my favorite person.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Con piacere! ;)

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewa12321:
[MENTION=1929726]craige[/MENTION] i only tested that photos/videos that are taken with stock Samsung camera app are saved on SD Memory card. I have lots of games no problems with them running when they are on SD card. I got only problems with download manager apps. Some apps just use internal memory and then I copy downloads to SD card
[Galaxy S 4 General] bogdan1980:
For sd write problem we have few apps that fixed this plus xposed module

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy S 4 General] craige:
Thank you for checking this for me.

I basically am a heavy game user, and just want all my games to be able to save to SD card. (Eg: Real Racing 3, NFS series, GTA). Any idea if games like I mentioned can be transferred to SD. Also if yes, can they be updated ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewa12321:
Almost all apps/games can be transferred. No problems with updates if app/game is on card. I have NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt, Death Rally and Real Racing. Ability to move to SD card depend on app/game dev so ask him/her if you have problems after transfer
[Galaxy S 4 General] craige:
Buddy, if what you saying is all true than I am really scratching my head & wondering wht all ppl complaining around that kitkat doesn't allow transfer of apps to SD cards.....

BTW, What phone model u using ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] kabloomz:
How did u do this?????
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
It's sad that people come on here just to diss Samsung.

Knox or the locked bootloader never stopped me from doing anything with my phone. I can still root it and install custom ROM's. I can write to my SD-card, if you have an issue just download File Mount and it will fix the permissions.

To all those that say Sammy sux, cheers you won't be missed, Samsung will still sell millions of phones without your support.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewa12321:
[MENTION=1929726]craige[/MENTION] Samsung Galaxy S4 Active with Android 4.4.2 Kitkat stock ROM no root and all works well.

Samsung phones has most advanced and unique software for Android phones. Air Gestures are awesome, best camera with live HDR, water resistance with removable battery so we don't have to be wall huggers. Every phone from Samsung has removable battery so if you are bored with phone you can sell it to someone and this person just buy new battery and phone will work as new. And I love plastic back cover, I don't fear anymore that when I had phone with glass back that it will be damaged and I will had to change whole phone because of glass back cover. Glass phones are the most stupid idea Samsung phones have best features. Knox doesn't block ability to root or install custom ROM.
[Galaxy S 4 General] chudy_85:
I do It that same. I seal my s4 and buy xperia z 2. Now im free
[Galaxy S 4 General] tetakpatak:
Samsung-fans can keep on, their choice. The miserable customer service is the problem, folks. Samsung will give you no more than two major updates for the phones you pay fortune for right now. After about 1.5 years, they will say your great hardware is too old and desire your $ for the new one.

At the same time, you can install custom ROM on your Knox'ed phone and your guarantee will be denied- even if you face a serial production bug that is clearly hardware related. Think on "Sudden death syndrom" or eMMC erase brickbug with S2, S3, Note 1 and Note 2. If one didn't read about it on internet, Samsung would often deny it is their mistake. It's nothing less of scandal.

tetakpatalked from Nexus 7 flo
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
Sorry to hear that you have had such a bad experience with Samsung but that doesn't mean all Sammy devices are shyte.

S4 has seen an upgrade from 4.2.2 to4.3 to 4.4.2 that's more than 2 updates by my count.

Buy an LG if you wanna find out about non-existent updates.

In South Africa the S4, N3 and S5 come with a 2 year fix of 2 free screen replacements or 2 free water damage repairs or 1 of both for free.

I had my screen replaced under warrantee and I was in and out of the Samsung Service Centre in 30min with my new screen. That's what I call good service, I don't know any other manufacturer than can offer that level of efficiency.

Go ahead and try Sony Z2 with their mysteriously bending phones that Sony wont fix. Nevermind their useless water proof phones - I have a friend who's Z2 got water damaged and Sony refused to repair it under warrantee even though they sell the phone as water and dust proof.

HTC has a locked bootloader just like Samsung.

My point is every manufacturer has their own issues and there's no reason to go around running Samsung down in a Samsung thread - that's borderline troll behaviour :rolleyes: