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[G2 General] cj31016:
You're right - maybe there will be better camera apps when the custom ROMs hit. I'm willing to donate for that, no prob. I love everything about this device with the exception of that. I tried to install the GS3/Note 2 camera apk, but it wouldn't work sadly.
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
Change the iso. The HDR is incredible on the G2.
[G2 General] trevoc1:
We're is the HDR setting is it HDR at 800?

Never mind I found it..lol
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
Pic from my son's football game last night with just regular mode.
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
This has an amazing camera on it.
[G2 General] geoff5093:
Coming from a Note 2 and S4, I've found the camera on the G2 to be much better in both normal and HDR modes.
[G2 General] fsiddique:
I had some poor auto focus shots at first until I realized all the smudges on the camera lens from learning to locate the rear buttons appropriately.
[G2 General] cj31016:
This is truly a great pic. And I agree it is a great cam, which is why I'm bummed I'm getting poor pics. I think my biggest problem is how slow it is to focus. The picture is gone by the time it does.
[G2 General] Adauth:
The camera on the G2 is amazing. I am very impressed.
[G2 General] akong702:
Did you change it from 10 mega pixel to 13? I know it made a difference when I changed it.
[G2 General] hoola20055:
Some Times auto focus does take longer than usual but I must say coming from a note 2 and lumia 928 this camera trumps them both easily. Try sports mode for the kids.it worked very well in my niece today! You won't get the low light sensitivity though.
[G2 General] EGBTMagus:
My street I tested on a clear day.
[G2 General] jayochs:
whites are way too over exposed on the camera. the detail is good, but the over exposure is just awful. the sky will never come out blue, unless pointed directly at it.
[G2 General] donnybright:
camera works great for me

I like the camera and i haven't had any issues with it so far.
[G2 General] Makman20:
Great camera but focus is too slow IMO
[G2 General] WPWoodJr:
Honestly it's hard to say since the photos are so different. The HTC ones are decent though.

Sent from my Verizon LG G2
[G2 General] gm007:
Your pic is out of focus,and the noise reduction is little strong.

Since you have the 2 phones can you do a test for the same scene and upload the full resolution images.
[G2 General] dagrim1:
The HTC One is meant to shine in low light (ultrapixels and all). They indeed look pretty sweet (was quite charmed of the HTC One cam myself as well).

But if I remember correctly UltraPixel meant larger pixels, meaning more light capturing, meaning lower shutter times and ISO values. The LG G2 has 'normal' smartphone camera pixels, meaning it has to turn up ISO and/or shutter times (keeping it open for a longer time to capture light). The OIS helps balancing out movement of your hand to be able to actually shoot decent pics with these shutter times but it doesn't help with moving objects of course.

The blurriness is pretty extreme though, are the ISO values that high? Any possibilities of shooting in manual mode and playing around a bit?
[G2 General] citytrader:
Poor software camera

As I saw some examples of the pictures one user sent me, there is a very bad implementation in the LG software, the noise reduction is really bad (one of the worse I've ever seen) and this destroys the details in the pictures, the only solution is to get a picture without any noise reduction, maybe through a mod.
[G2 General] woof123:
My friend you using intelligent auto right..?Dont...
[G2 General] kcharng:
Compares HTC One, the G2 is much brighter. If you looks at the wall in g2 pics they are all washes out. The metering in g2 could use some work to create a more balance scene.

Try manually adjust the brightness setting on g2 to be lower then you might get a better results.

-LG G2
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Can someone compare stock camera with snapcamera? Which will do better?
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Have anyone of you try this cameras com.almalence.hdr_plus & com.almalence.opencam
[G2 General] vati:
I try snap camera.

I think, the photo is the same, the video is beter with snap camera because of the quicker focus solution.
[G2 General] Spewy1:
I amnew to the G2 but I have mixed feelings about the camera, some good shots and in good light it is quite sharp but a little washed out looking. In not so good light the focus is so slow it is embarrassing if you ask people to pose for a shot, they are bored and move away! And taking pictures of my dogs is impossible!

Is there any suggestion that LG will update the camera software?

(Iam on kitkat).

Thannks.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Whatdoyouknow, there is a Time machine mode exactly for capturing your beloved dogs
[G2 General] tomsi91:
Any news about the panorama mode? Is it some way to fix it? Before G2 i had Samsung Galaxy S3 and it was shoting absolutely amazing panoramas in full chip resolution, so the panorama from S3 was usually around 10MB and had very big resolution. So how is possible that in the G2, better phone is so bad so unusable even on android 4.4? How to fix it? Is there any mod or something?
[G2 General] Sensamic:
Yep.

My Galaxy S3 takes better pictures than the G2.

I'm still amazed at how good the S3 camera is.
[G2 General] jayochs:
xdabbeb created a Verizon KK rom, which he then ported over the G Pro 2 camera to, which shoots FULL resolution panorama that looks amazing. see if somebody in your device's development thread has ported this camera, along with all of the correct libs. if so, you'll have some HD panorama!
[G2 General] Spewy1:
Thanks, and it works better than I

expected!

But if it can focus beforeI take a picture , why can't it do that all the time? :(

Got to say the cam era produced ssomeamazi ng shots yesterdayin good light co ndition.
[G2 General] kolembo:
Thank God

The camera is rubbish

That's how it is

It's excruciating because when you look at the shots, you can see a good camera trying to get out

But as it is, the results are, more often than not, crap.

Blue tint, washed out colors - not pleasing at all.

I don't get it.
[G2 General] martindar:
just a suggestion, i you are rooted,flash xdabbebs camera zip or one of the camera mods in developement threads? i use xdabbebs camera mods and they are excellent, absolutely transformed the camera from just about useless to very good, spend a little time reading his thread to understand what he has done and how to use it and you will see there are many happier people who are using this or the other cam mods the focus is so much better and no breathing in /out trying to find the focus point anyhow im overall very happy with this mod now and wouldnt go back.
[G2 General] guvno:
Hi , I was just about to suggest what martindar did. if someone has tried this mod (http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/2...-even-more-boss-exclusive-to-stock-rom-users/), it would be great to hear some feedback
[G2 General] jayochs:
this pic shows the problem with washing out the sky. it always comes out white ugh
[G2 General] Fidelio_o:
Better? lol ?
[G2 General] jayochs:
see how the background is really washed out and over exposed? :(
[G2 General] shea-bird:
Luckily this phone has some nice manual settings. Play with those and you will see a big difference. The cam is great, just have to figure it out...auto pics are not gonna come out great all the time...even my $400 Panasonic PnS likes to mess up in auto mode from time to time.
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
Try the HDR mode. It balances the colors out much better. I only use mine in the wide angle 10mb and they look great.
[G2 General] lilkhmerkid4u:
I know nothing about photography....what settings do you suggest? lol
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
Complete darkness with normal and flash.
[G2 General] jayochs:
i do. i drop the exposure, so the sky will look less white, but then the blacks in the foreground are completely black and it's just not a good shot.

HDR mode still won't get the sky for me. HDR on the DNA would..it would take the over exposed sky and make it blue, and keep everything else balanced. not so much on the G2.
[G2 General] Adauth:
Are you talking a picture of the truck or the backround? If you want to take amazing pictures use a dslr. For a smartphone the pictures are pretty damn good.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
That thing is focused on truck, that's why b/groud is washed. I think U should read those http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_dynamic_range

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging and learn something about WDR photos

Your photo is great example of WDR with truck in the shade and white sunny back in peripheral part of picture, it should be snapped in HDR mode.
[G2 General] ratchetjaw:
I think this has the best camera i have ever used on a phone except my Lumia 1020 and i have had almost all the latest flagships except the Sonys

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Something must be wrong with your phone cause mine out performs my S4 easily
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Again LG blooped and not delivered ideal phone for anybody and it can't win over dslr in shooting hdr images. bad for lg. DNA is better phone 4 U me thinks.
[G2 General] jayochs:
dna def isn't better hahaha it lasts like 7 hours. and the camera on the dna isn't good quality at all. it was worse than the rezound.

ok so all you people saying hdr will be better because it won't wash out the sky when focusing on the truck.. I'll take a shot later and post it.
[G2 General] greyhulk:
Almost every blog site that has reviewed this phone would seem to differ. They all rate photo quality as on par, or better, than the GS4. I have done my own comparisons with the Lumia 1020 and GS4 and I would have to agree.

The ONLY issue I have with the camera is a laggy viewfinder in darkness, but it doesn't affect picture quality, it just makes it difficult to know what I'm taking a picture of sometimes.
[G2 General] jayochs:
i can say that the photos are pretty good, but overexposed and washed out whenever anything bright is in the frame.

the videos, on the other hand, are absolutely terrible. the audio quality is awful, it doesn't look HD at all, and on top of that, the ability to lock focus is missing, so it's CONSTANTLY doing that annoying pulsing even when the subject in the frame is standing still. i'm writing to LG right now and showing them an example of how bad the video capabilities are. they're seriously as bad as my HTC Rezound, and that's a phone from 2011. Seriously LG? it's 2013, and phones like the GS4 record AMAZING video with perfect audio, and here's your flagship phone making videos that look like they're from a damn droid Eris.

example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU6Sp5V5Hv0&feature=youtu.be

this example is a LITTLE better for the G2, but the audio sitll gets warbly, and the pusling is still bad, and well the lighting is awful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ef3AuB-x-Y

gs4 example which sounds/looks much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq_m3G6e920
[G2 General] Jay784:
their own video has the problem. you would think the person editing the video would have told LG "wtfbbq. what is this crap." youtu.be/cn6Jhta861g you can see it 0:54, 1:01, 1:14-1:16
[G2 General] citytrader:
As I see in the pictures, I'm wrong or the dynamic range of the camera is horrible!?
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
No. It doesn't stand still. In the LG G2 1080p Guitar Improv movie you constantly move in the frame so camera has to refocus constantly

Compare it with Alice in Chains Medley on Samsung Galaxy S4 reel when you sit still all the time and camera don't see much of a movement. Especially if you part your frame in 3x3 and look into center 1/9 the picture don't change in this part of frame. So camera suppose than nothing interesting happens and don't readjust itself all the time

So it's you who's wrong, not the G2 camera. Provide more consistent comparative footage so we could see mistakes of camera focusing
[G2 General] jayochs:
lmao, seriously, guy? okay. 1.) i didn't say in my video i was standing still, i said that even when standing still it does it. i don't have a video of NOTHING moving, but when i was getting the camera ready to do it, it was constantly pulsating despite the fact NOTHING was in the frame moving at all.

2.) for what i need it for, the video camera is not good. period.

look at any other G2 video and notice the constant pulsating of the auto focus, then try to tell me that it's me who's wrong.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
B'cause you didn't stand still and when U moved it refocused

We can live with dat

B'cause in every single G2 video camera constantly moves, how you don't understand?

Well, we live in era when smartphones are truly smarter than their owners. So sad. Never thought I'll witness it but I am
[G2 General] jayochs:
...yet other phones, like the Gs4, the droid DNA, the HTC One, don't do it nearly as aggressively as the G2 does even when something IS moving in the frame.

okay bud. i'll let you think what you want lol it doesn't bother me whatsoever, nor do your childish, immature remarks.
[G2 General] greyhulk:
I'm seeing a common theme here. You complain about something, someone disagrees with you, and you call them immature. Maybe you should take a break. Or maybe you should just take the phone back, because all I see you do is complain about it. Maybe you'd be happier with an iPhone.
[G2 General] jayochs:
check this out though, indoors shots the G2 is definitely the winner, i can now say that definitively.

i've taken some good shots with the S4 before, and for some reason i had a misconception that it was actually better.

i do admit now, i was wrong. check out my comparison album:

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjJdMbVU
[G2 General] greyhulk:
Nice job. OIS is pretty hard to beat in low light. The GS4 does pretty good in Night Mode, however.
[G2 General] jayochs:
thanks! yeah, i like the night mode on the GS4 and GS3. i took some awesome night snow shots last year with the GS3 that my DNA couldn't touch.

DNA's night mode was awful..it brought out like, oranges and reds, rather than actually brighten it up...but the DNA's hdr mode would do pretty much what night mode did lol
[G2 General] greyhulk:
HTC's cameras have been consistently disappointing for me. They never really seem to live up to the hype.

Conversely, this is the first really good LG camera I have seen.
[G2 General] WACOMalt:
I am also completely not impressed with the camera on this thing.

I am coming form a Galaxy Nexus, and while lower fidelity, the images on that phone had MUCH greater range. Whites didnt get blown out as easily nor the blacks clipped. It's way to contrasty in every situation I have tried it in and nothing will fix it for me. I have tried different ISO modes, different "brightness" settings. HDR mode helps a little but at best it puts it back to what a normal picture came out as on my gnex (aside form the super high resolution of course)

I have tried other camera apps, and had just as bad of results. I also noticed on any app that can change the exposure, it can never change it as far as the automatic adjustments made by the camera already do. If I take a picture of a window form inside a room, and drop the exposure down a slow as it will go, the outside through the window is still blown out white. If I go outside, the autoexposure will happily drop the exposure until it looks fine. Shouldnt the manual exposure be able to hit the same range?

HDR mode is far from HDR im my oppinion. I'm not asking for those silly looking painting HDR images, but this one at best expands the range in my images to that of any normal point and shoot's single exposures. I'll post some examples shortly.

The crispness of the camera is amazing though, I'll give it that. And the fact that it has no rolling shutter on video mode is great too. But where'd my range go? :(
[G2 General] greyhulk:
HDR mode is definitely better on the GS4. It brings out more details in the shadows. I believe (though can't confirm) that the camera modules are the same or very similar in the GS4 and G2. They are both made by Sony and seem to capture the same amount of detail, though the focal length is much shorter on the GS4, making everything look more zoomed in.

I think Samsung has the camera software part down and has since the GS3. They just seem to process the photos a little better. Still, I give the quality win to the G2 overall.
[G2 General] vaxick:
I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by the camera. Over at Android Central, I had some complaints about the pictures people posted and a fleet of people got completely pissy over me not being pleased with the results. The discussion over here seems much more healthy and is full of people who are seeing the faults of the camera. I don't blame the physical camera itself, Sony makes amazing optics for phones, but the software that LG made to drive it is just awful. Whatever they are doing to have the camera meter is just plain off resulting in a lot of blown out photos. Nokia had issues too, but they released patches to correct the issues, LG could too, but even at launch, some of these issues should have never stuck around for its retail release.
[G2 General] NoLeftHere:
You might need to get your eyes checked, lol. You were the only one to complain in that whole thread. And please don't spread around rumors about people seeing faults. There were only a few, very few complaints.

If you don't like the phone, than just get a different phone. No need to spread bad mojo for LG. Also the OP changed his mind :)

Pictures look fantastic to me, this is of course a smartphone, you can't expect DSLR camera quality.
[G2 General] vaxick:
It's my opinion, that is all. If you're happy with the phone, that's all that matters. I'm simply curious if LG will make changes to the camera software just as Nokia did with the Lumia 920.
[G2 General] willbs94:
Its a sad world that we live in. This thread is nothing but a rant...the only true issue that I am seeing....well hearing is the sound. It does sound bad but that could be just me. The audio chip is actually supposed to be good in this phone as well.

The most disappointing part of this phone is probably not the camera. Nothing is perfect.

Also. Why compare to other phones. This is LG we are talking about. Have they actually put out anything that does compare besides the nexus 4?

I think LG is heading in the right direction if they would just give you an option to have it non-themed. Man it looks ugly. Touchwiz is one thing bad come on.

Give the camera a chance, give the phone a chance. If you are stuck with it. Use it as a phone. Play games on it, it is a beast. Too bad I might have to pass up on it.
[G2 General] citytrader:
I dont own a G2, but I'm deciding between the ONE or G2... For the blown sky, you can not expect so much of a smartphone camera, they have a limited dynamic range so in high contrast situations you will ever get blown skies, I dont know if the phone have spot metering and the posibility

to spot meter on the sky and shut the picture in that condition, this is something normal you will do even with a DSLR (Even with my 5DMKII I can get blown skies)

When you spot on the sky, the shadows could be very dark and here you will see the dynamic range limitation of the phone.
[G2 General] vaxick:
You're correct. Now that some more photos are finally starting to make their way online (See some new ones tonight that are pleasing), the camera is showing some very positive moments. It's struggle just seems to be with bright light situations. While you're not going to be able to avoid it, it almost seems as if the software driving it might benefit from its levels being reduced as the images coming out may be having their colors pushed slightly too bright. I'm sure there could be some great tweaks to the camera if the bootloader gets cracked open. Right now, it just feels like the Lumia. It's so close to being really great, it just needs some slight tweaking to get it the rest of the way. That's not a bad thing.

The biggest problem though is that breathing autofocus. That is something LG should address given this has apparently been a problem specifically with their phones.
[G2 General] Hardcore73:
Camera is best on phone next to the new lumia line. And I have owned every phone out.
[G2 General] jrgilbert79:
IA

IA has a slow shutter. If you take off intelligent auto focus you can snap pictures faster. I have learned with children just take a million pictures and delete the 999,999 that suck. :highfive:
[G2 General] geoff5093:
The problem with this thread is that people checking out the forums prior to buying may see this thread title and say "oh, the camera on the G2 is bad, I won't get it", but in reality the camera on this phone is awesome - it's just a select few having issues.
[G2 General] WACOMalt:
Well, it's not like only some of us have a different camera than the rest. We are all saying our oppinions on the same hardware. So simply put, what I may see as an unacceptably small range in brightness, You may be perfectly fine with. But it's the same hardware.

If I were a potential buyer I would want to know that "some people may find the camera's range to be a bit low" before buying. It's not "a select few having issues", it's "a select few aren't happy with the range, focus speed, etc."

I see no problem with people reading this before they buy the phone, I would have appreciated it. It's not like they cant see the example images and judge for themselves. Knowledge is power.
[G2 General] Darkestred:
I think the real problem is you have a small group of people who will always complain and then another small group who are perfectionist. Then you have the large average user who see's the thread, reads the negatives and ignores the positives.

Then you have the simple solution if you want a good camera get an EOD Or something like that.

I was surprised by the camera. Early shots were showing it looking soft and i personally don't see it as necessarily soft. Pictures are quite detailed and it is the best camera i've seen on any phone i have personally used.

Very satisfied. Good audio from speaker. Nice sounding DAC. If i need a quality picture i got that too. If i need ridiculous pictures i'll take out my DLSR.
[G2 General] WACOMalt:
Well, sorry if I sound like I'm not satisfied with the camera, I surely am. It's a cell phone for science sake! I can always state my preferences, while still being overall satisfied. ;)

In any case, here's hoping it improves with softwar eudpates, but Id still agree it's the best, or close to, that I have seen on a phone overall.
[G2 General] Kurant1:
Oops
[G2 General] pilo99:
I don't really rely on lg camera app but I am using HDR+ app and wow ...I am so impressed ...
[G2 General] Kurant1:
Look, the bottom line is this camera can wash out the background in pictures, and the focus is slow. Mainly, this issue comes in outdoors, or where there is a source of light that is fairly bright in the background. Like a shot with a window in the background. Period. It's not an opinion of what it's doing, it's the way it is. The bigger question now is will LG fix it in a decent amount of time? (And I believe it is software, because the HDR app I tried doesn't wash out the photo's). That in itself is the biggest reason why I am apprehensive about keeping this device, will LG support it? That, and a more than likely locked bootloader, losing a lot of support of the custom ROM builders.

The pictures in detail and color (the not washed out ones.) are amazing. The phone itself is the best phone I've used yet. But I use my camera constantly in my career when I travel, and it's a big issue to me. Just because it isn't an issue to you, doesn't mean everyone is trolling or complaining. Some people, like myself, use the camera for more than just a random shot running around Las Vegas. It IS an issue for some of us.
[G2 General] Darkestred:
I'm not saying anything like that. I think we both know how easily a consumer can be persuaded. As you previously said we have different standards. Your standard may be 8 and mine may be 4, but the consumer just see's what appears to be a negative view. Even if it's really not and then say, nah this phone sucks.