yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Exostenza:
Thanks again guys for the answers - I appreciate it.

I haven't flashed a kernel yet on it as when I came into this thread and read the past few pages it seemed like there were some issues so I decided to hold off until something was done about it. If it is working fine for some and not for others I may try it out before the next update although battery is not such a huge issue for me so I may just wait until something is sorted. Also, I am running stock rom rooted - anyone have some suggestions for a good ROM that is stable enough for a daily driver for someone who doesn't like to update all the time? So far it looks like cleanROM to me although it doesn't really have any features like others.

Sorry to go a bit OT although I want to know what Franco users are running to be able to pair his kernel with a ROM so I guess it isn't really OT.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
To tell the truth I think most nexus users use the stock rom, after all we buy it for the stock feel and look of android away from touch wiz and such like. I think the rom scene is more for users of more popular phones / tabs. They use them to get closer to stock or aosp or what ever. Anyway if you use flashify or fku app you can back up the stock kernel and flash another and if you don't get on you can use those apps to flash it back. Or if you have fastboot you can just fastboot flash boot boot.img
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
Stock rooted, default settings with no reboots here either.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
Unfortunately I am not able to mount a cifs share. Has anyone successfully done so?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] dud3me:
Well, if you look at the releases to time ratio between n5 and n7 kernels you'll notice that n5 has almost 3x more releases despite being out far less time. Also he hardly ever replies to this thread.

We get the optimizations from n5 but features and such aren't developed specifically for n7. I'm not sure whether or not n4 is higher in the release hierarchy than us due to the larger number of users, even if n7 is newer.

I haven't had any reboots and I'm running at 1,7ghz and very slight uv. You should definitely try Franco out and see if it differs from the n5 Franco experience. Can't really comment on that since this is the only device with Franco that I have.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] LouisTran:
Still waiting for N7 DEB, hopefully it will come in next release

Gửi từ Nexus 5 của tôi bằng cách sử dụng Tapatalk
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] tigerminx:
+1

Patiently waiting myself :) His work on the N5 kernel is incredible.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Exostenza:
I understand your logic although I respectfully disagree. I have used Nexus devices for a few years now and have always run custom ROMs because they take the AOSP experience and add features to it that I have come to love so much that now stock just feels so lacking. Also the optimizations, hardened security and bug fixes that come along with some of them also make using stock that much less appealing.

I honestly think that as of now I am the only person I know of that is running stock on my Nexus devices (know IRL not over the internet) while there are clearly more good reasons than I can count for doing so and will be switching over soon. I am thinking Clean Rom 2.6 for my n7 and Cataclysm for my N5 because those ROMs are stable and finished (I am done with flashing new ROMs all the time).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] poondog:
Yeah haha only gingerbreadman, osmosis and Franco are on stock :D :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
:p :D

Xposed and Gravity Box give me everything I need. :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] poondog:
I am never on stock. All the ROMs I use often have a good amount of custom tweaks and settings.. I am on Slim on my flo atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I don't even use gravity box any more iv been using art pretty much since it came out and loving it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Stevemeister:
In my opinion ART can't beat all the customization possible with Xposed and Gravity Box. I honestly don't notice much difference when comparing ART vs Dalvik.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] :
Franco, you did good.

r10, stock rom.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] combatmedic870:
I'm loosing root every time I flash r12.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
So flash SuperSU?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] combatmedic870:
Super su is still on my tablet. I flash this r12 and it fully unroots.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mdamaged:
So, when it unroots, reroot it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
Sigh.

Flash SuperSU.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] abjexstallion:
A facepalm meme should've been so much better. No offense for the one asking the question...

Straight from my franco.fied SLimHeAD... After all it's a ?NEXUS?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Sleepy!:
Kenneth, what is the frequency?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] sizzlers:
Can someone tell me is there way to UV the GPU?All i see is undervolt the cpu from the donated FK app but nothing bout GPU undervolt.Also -50 UV is good for cpu?or i must lower further since i dont experience any instability?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
There's no uv for gpu. And yeah, you can go below -50 but anything your device can't stand will result in a reboot. Remember, never check Set on boot when you are experimenting with values.

Sent from my Nexus 7²
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
Does USB Fast Charge work for anyone?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
Yep and to do it correctly you should set performance governor and set each frequency as your max, one at a time, while undervolting that frequency. That way you isolate and know exactly what voltages you can use on each frequency. It's generally not ever just -100 across the board. :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] edgarpo:
Installed CM11 M3, then proceeded to flash r12. Screen instantly crashed and a blue/green fuzzy mess appeared. Rebooted and the fuzziness was still there. Was able to navigate around to notice that SU was gone. Screen refresh rate was very slow. Restarted into recovery and wiped the system.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mdamaged:
Yup, sounds about right when you flash a kernel to an incompatible ROM.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Kevin Goot:
Has anyone gotten xposed to work?

I'm running r12 and PA beta 5 and everytime I install xposed framework, my navbar disappears....
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mdamaged:
Must be your ROM, r12 with xposed on stock ROM works perfect here.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
[MENTION=4544860]osm0sis[/MENTION] can you test if you have similar results. Tested on flo 16gb
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] :
Does USB fast charge work for anyone? It was supposedly added in r2, according to the changelog, but the battery stats still show USB instead of AC when connected to the PC. I know this has been asked several times in this thread, but I didn't find any definitve answer.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
79.84 average with defaults,

80.53 average with your winners.

I'm on the 32gb and honestly it just seems like noise.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Curious how the old deadline winning tunables don't seem quite so effective on this device. I haven't tried it on hammerhead yet. Do you know why it might not be as effective now?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
Different hardware? Storage and controllers and all that good stuff most likely. I remember the 32gb grouper was better for that reason too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Yeah I remember it did bench a little better. I was wondering about asking Franco if he would use the values we came up with but if there isn't much difference I don't know if there's much point
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
Same. I've been content with the performance as it is. He's doing a good job all on his own. ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] kptnk:
I'll just leave this here, with PSLX Rom and r12, mostly reading epubs and browsing. :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] We know you are a busy man with a life outside xda, but this has been asked multiple times over a several month period, please respond.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MikeRL100:
Fast USB charge doesn't work here either.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] rambleon84:
Similar use for me too :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HirogenX:
Hi, first thanks a lot for your work.

Only one question : is this kernel compatible with AOSP based Roms now? I like to flash Carbon but I don't wanna miss this kernel.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Reposting requests into correct forum.

]Franco can I make a request of setting individual per app mode input boost setting?

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Yes this kernel will always work with stock / aosp. Its just CAF based stuff is where incompatibility is an issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HirogenX:
Nice! I just wasn't sure because there is a lot of cm stuff in carbon. So I'll try. Thanks man!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
If you find it won't boot or have funky colours just flash the rom again without wiping anything. Fingers crossed for you
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HirogenX:
Yes, I know. I just won't try without asking before. I hope it works, I like this kernel. It's still working without any bullsh**t.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] poondog:
You might know more than me about this.. I see what Franco is doing with his n5 kernel in his git, and the positive feedback he's getting. Is this planned for other devices, eg mako flo? Thanks :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
Honestly I don't know. I'd like to think so but only Franco can answer. How I image things are working is using nexus 5 as the testing play ground and then hopefully merge successful changes to other devices. The current test release is great, really come on from the previous official build.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HirogenX:
Ok, kernel is working with Carbon 4.4 without any problems. Thanks again!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
I used 486 locked with performance and all cores on by changing hotplug first level to 1. Worked for awhile on 700mV but later got a reboot, working on it again today.

Mind sharing your final table for comparison?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I spent a while doing it dropping but didn't test each step extensively just for 10 mins or so. Lowest value is what I'm using, other numbers are just +25s. Copy paste from my keep.

You might be suprised at how little juice the n5 uses, I'll add that under, just for 'comparison' purposes ;)

Edit

I had left it at home with my GF and had not set on boot the UV and when I got home the voltage was the same, therefore no reboot had taken place

N7

384 MHz 900 875 850 825 800 775 750 725 700

486 MHz 900 875 850 825 800 775 750 725 700

594 MHz 900 875 850 825 800 775 750 725

702 MHz 900 875 850 825 800 775

810 MHz 900 875 850 825 800 775

918 MHz 925 900 875 850 825

1026 MHz 950 925 900 875 850

1134 MHz 975 950 925 900 875

1242 MHz 987 962 937 912 887

1350 MHz 1000 975 950 925 900

1458 MHz 1037 1012 987 962 937

1512 MHz 1050 1025 1000 975 950

1620 MHz 1075 1050 1025 1000 975

1728 MHz 1100 1075 1050 1025 1000

N5

300 MHz 775 750 725 700 675 650

422 MHz 775 750 725 700 675

652 MHz 795 770 745 720

729 MHz 805 780 755 730

883 MHz 825 800 775

960 MHz 835 810 785

1036 MHz 845 820 795

1190 MHz 865 840 815

1267 MHz 875 850 825

1497 MHz 910 885 860

1574 MHz 925 900 875

1728 MHz 955 930 905

1958 MHz 995 970 945

2265 MHz 1050 1025 1000 975
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] HirogenX:
Sadly I have to report that the carbon rom isn't working with franco kernel. When I turn the tab design is fc. Same with glitch Kernel, so I guess, it's rom related. :(

Back to KK with franco kernel
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bcote311:
give slimrom a shot if you haven't already. fantastic rom and works perfect with franco kernel
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] DNarsingh:
Is anyone else using this with paranoid android beta 5? Battery life is great and all, but my tablet sometimes seems sluggish when transitioning from screen to screen and also when playing games.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Angel_of_Death:
This is only for flo?

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 7 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Yes. It will not work on Deb. Pretty sure that Franco doesn't have a Deb.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] v12xke:
Unfortunately, Flo only atm. Try Faux or Elemental while you are waiting. I've got a Deb unit too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
init.d and native SuperSU support would be nice. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
osmosis i noticed a reboot just now, I think 384mhz 700mv might have been just borderline. I increased it and the next step to 725. Thought you may interested perhaps
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
I, weirdly enough, noticed that 702 MHz needed 775 mV to get through YouTube videos without rebooting, and yet 810 MHz has so far been completely stable at 750 mV.

This is a really hard device to crash when it's borderline!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
That's weird. I haven't ever seen that. Is 810 a frequency that it doesn't use a lot? Maybe it's not really sitting on that frequency but it is on 702 when viewing videos. Doesn't make much sense though.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
I'm undervolting methodically so it's running Performance on whatever frequency I'm testing, with all four cores in case one core is touchier with voltages.

So I ran 702 MHz for an afternoon but it rebooted twice at 750 mV while playing YouTube videos. 775 mV resolved this. 810 MHz at 750 mV is still running solid. I assume it has to do with load but no issues with YouTube, AnTuTu or games... Totally weird! I know! :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] RobbieL811:
Oh. I didn't realize that you were undervolting each frequency by itself like that. Idk what to tell you on that one lol. Like you said, totally weird.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I ended up having more, its got to be another one, I'm at work now so I'll update again later when I investigate further but I think it might be one of the 1ghz + speeds, not sure. What you said though did get me thinking, we should when testing undervolt use hot plug load threshold at 0 to try to catch all the cores and if one goes boom they all go boom! That does sound odd what you were saying about your freak freq, bizarre how that works
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] qwer777:
I just got a new nexus 7 yesterday, and I've always loved Franco Kernel. I have tried it with the latest AOKP Nightlies(2/8 and 2/16) and both have continuous theme provider FC's. Does anyone else have this issue?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
Yup! That's what I'm doing. :)

I didn't think to try 0, but threshold 1 definitely seems to have the desired effect of keeping them all online. :good:

[MENTION=2918197]The Gingerbread Man[/MENTION] For your borderline issue you should raise min and/or lower max until it stops rebooting so you can isolate the frequency at fault.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION]
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] MikeRL100:
He seems to be stretched thin. I asked him. Please don't nag him too too much, although I can understand your frustration. I hope he updates other devices soon as well. He can do this, it's just that he's the only one and he has like five devices to support. However, I'll ask him to respond. Just don't expect miracles overnight. Good work takes time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jak3z:
I don't like your reply so I'll be reading your signature all night long :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Husy:
I've got a little problem guys, Im running CleanRom 1.6 with stock kernel etc. And I flashed franco r1 and now usb isnt connecting with pc. Its only charging but I cant acces my storage in any way. Any help?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jak3z:
[MENTION=3292224]franciscofranco[/MENTION] do you need the stock kernel image of the DEB version? for the ramdisk I mean you might be able to use it.

---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:15 PM ----------

Use any kernel manager app like Franco Kernel Updater or Trickster Mod, and verify USB Fast Charge is not activated. That's the only thing that comes into my head that would cause that problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes, email me the deb stock boot.img please.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Husy:
Use any kernel manager app like Franco Kernel Updater or Trickster Mod, and verify USB Fast Charge is not activated. That's the only thing that comes into my head that would cause that problem.[/QUOTE]

I dont have the FKU and I did not touch anything sort of. Im gonna flash stock kernel now and see if its even kernel related.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bokoy:
How do you flash the stock kernell? With a zip? Do you know where can I get the stock kernell in a flashable zip?

Thanks in advaned
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jak3z:
I might be able to provide you a zip, give me some minutes.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Class_of_punk26:
So where's the link?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
OP? -.-
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] sirdicholas:
I had to download from desktop. Links not showing in xda app.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Class_of_punk26:
I found it lol I had to use my browser not the app my fault
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jak3z:
Here is the stock kernel for DEB (LTE).

Flash the zip and voila.

I tested it with my tablet and it worked.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mjwhirly:
A kernel made by a fellow pork chop :) ...going to have to try this one out, been waiting for it to make its way over to Flo since I got the device. Will report back with my results later
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] cyberprodigy:
Really awesome to see this kernel on the new Nexus 7. It was always a personal favorite on the 2012 edition. Thanks a lot Franco!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] bokoy:
Many thanks m8, but I was looking for the flo one. Would it be possible?

Thanks again for your time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] jak3z:
Maybe I can get you a boot.IMG give me 2 minutes

Download factory image and extract it from there I can't get it at this moment.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando XDA Premium HD app
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] habylab:
Not true. Faux's is awesome.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] LoVeRice:
Yay! Nows the time
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Husy:
Guys, I have detected a bug. At first I thought it was just my rom cousing this. U cant acces storage after flashing franco kernel. I completely whiped everything even unrooted and went back to stock etc, then I started up and flashed it r1 with TWRP, and it caused the SAME problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] franciscofranco:
Yes you can, I just connected my N7 running r1 to my desktop and guess what, I can access it normally "My Computer". I took it out, plugged into my Macbook, guess what, its connected and I can navigate through the sdcard.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
Thank you. I've sent him a PM, contacted him on G+ about it, and tried in this forum several times over the last 2 months. I know he's busy, but it's getting to be disrespectful
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] mitchdickson:
You poor thing.

Franco owes you nothing.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Tråget:
[MENTION=2918197]The Gingerbread Man[/MENTION]

I copied your UV-settings for the N5 and it's working flawlessly.

Now i was thinking of copying your values for the N7.

My question is then if the values are still as in the recent post a couple pages back?

Or have you changed something, specifically on the lower frequencies. (You know, it's always nice when somebody else does the job for you! :silly:)

Thanks in advance.

By the way, love the color profiles on the N5! :good:

/Tråget
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
The only disrespectful thing going on is acting entitled.

Trust me, as someone who's been in decent contact with Francisco for updates to a "legacy" device, it's not intentional, he means it every time he says he's going to do something (even though he may not get to it) and he feels bad about not being more active on all the devices.

He just gets sidetracked by all the ideas and excitement of the newer devices. Which is understandable and the process of the other devices receiving the advancements trialed on the new ones has already been explained. We just need to be patient, and I find the occasional nudge via email or in his main device thread (ie. N5 currently) help. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] creeve4:
Why do you all mistake my reporting of bugs and desire for a fix as entitlement?

I appreciate his work as much as anyone, but ignoring repeated attempts for support is just rude.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] osm0sis:
He basically only has time to stay active in one thread at a time from what I can tell. It's not rude, he just isn't here.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] The Gingerbread Man:
I'm glad those are working well for you but do be aware sometimes trying to copy things like for like won't always work on your device. You might be able to undervolt more perhaps less! I'm going to revisit my undervolt as for now I just unset on boot and rebooted. I'll post here with my findings. There was a borderline one somewhere and I need to try to nail that little sod down. I think that -100 all round was some how too easy and bit of a coincide even though it did seem all fine for a while
[Nexus 7 (2013) Original Android Development] Sleepy!:
[MENTION=3444353]creeve4[/MENTION]

Well let me give you the short answer.

Your device doesn't have a large enough user base for him to focus his time and energies on it.

You can use some other kernel if you want better support, instead of repeatedly trying to get Franco to give you support. That's what us Deb users do. ?

There are plenty of other kernels for the N7, with Glitch, Bricked and Faux coming to mind at first thought. Try one of those. Give Franco a break. He'll update if/when he wants to, in the meanwhile if you cannot bear using this kernel, migrate to one of the other kernels on offer.