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[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
I am from Poland so it ain't no tropics here :)

I don't think that it is the temperature's fault.
[Xperia Z1 General] xperiafan324:
Check the spoiler tags in the OP, the 1st spoiler tag shows a chinese Z1's subpixel arrangement to be the same as the Z i.e. e-IPS

2nd spoiler tag shows the Z Ultra's subpixel arrangement i.e. AH-IPS.

The rumors were that Sony had stuck with the much higher quality AH-IPS panels for the Z1, however the narrow viewing angles and only marginal better quality than the Z is a really disturbing indicator of e-IPS, we won't know for sure until we've seen more Z1s under the microscope though.

Also [MENTION=1358639]Shem[/MENTION],

Do you have the mobile bravia engine 2 on the Z and the x reality engine on the Z1 enabled in the comparison shots and the video?
[Xperia Z1 General] fallenwout:
So the pixels on the good screen should be slightly tilted?
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
Actually I have X-Reality on both. Xperia Z is on monxdified Rom with some Hoonami features.

I shall be getting a USB microscope tomorrow and will post the pixel array on Z1 and Z
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
You chinese probably got ripped off by being sent the worst of the production models! They can pull that stunt in your country but here in UK/Europe/US, if they did, everyone would sue the hell out of them. I've had a look at 4 -5 Xperia Z1 display models and all had better looking displays than the Z! Definetly better viewing angles too!
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
Chinese? I am from Poland dude and that is part of EU...
[Xperia Z1 General] xperiafan324:
Yes, and in addition to being slanted they'll be solid lines, unlike the Z's pixel array that has a little black hole in the middle of each subpixel.

Ah, that explains the jaw-dropping colours on the Z :)(I've never seen an image look so good on the Z's display). I think it'll be a fair comparison of the screen tech (in comparison photos like you posted) if you turn off all software enhancements like the X reality engine and any other enhancement that Sony's offering in the Z1.

Getting a USB microscope? That'll be just awesome! :svetius: so I guess we'll all see tomorrow if Sony cheaped out and used e-IPS again or (hopefully) used the same great AH-IPS tech as found in the Z Ultra. :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Oops sorry thought you were the chinese guy complaining about it :)... Anyways, I think you were just unlucky!!!
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
i have bought 2 from uk and screens no good
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
my Z1 is from the UK and screen is perfect. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
You can add photos of your Z1 screen
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
As requested :)

Pics taken of my Z1 screen with an iPhone 5 camera:

I tried to take a pic on an angle but it's hard to do in my office right now as there are lights directly above me and the screen is reflective but the viewing angle on this phone is very good too.
[Xperia Z1 General] dibdin:
Some nice photos you have there. I agree, your screen looks great!
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
The Z1 screen is superior to the Z screen. I have owned both phones so I can speak from experience. :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Getting mine tomorrow probably will tell you then!
[Xperia Z1 General] harfot:
My Z1 is bought in the UK by Handtec and screen is perfect :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
Me too! Handtec is the best supplier! I used them last time for my Z and have no problem too. :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] thelittleidiot:
Can you post the first image, you use to test your Z1 screen ? Unless if it´S a personal One. I would like to test if my Z1 screen is as good as yours
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
It's a personal picture, but it's ok to post.

Click the link below for full size resolution.

http://i.imgur.com/Yr3nb7Y.jpg
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
Hmm, Houston, we have a problem here. Old experia z compared to my new z1. I don't need to tell you which is which. I'm sure you can figure this one out.. :(
[Xperia Z1 General] DarrenT:
Looks like someone forgot to include some contrast on your screen :( All up to date yeah? No firmware update they pushed out early doors?
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
Nope.. All up to date.... Just sent clove an email.
[Xperia Z1 General] thelittleidiot:
Thank you. You can delete the link if you want. I've tested on my Z1 and I have the same result as in your photo, maybe a little better. So I confirm that I have a good screen.

On video, I've compared to my S4 (on auto mode and on video mode for the screen). I used the GoPro Hero 3 publicity on YouTube. On both mode, the Xperia Z1 is really better than the S4, in contrast, brightness and color. The only time when the S4 is better, it's at the end when we have only the name GoPro on the black screen, the black of the Z1 is too bright.
[Xperia Z1 General] dw1llow:
Microscopic view of the z1 display available here: http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-987p3.php
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
I'm really hoping that Sony says something or does something soon. Been reading the Z Ultra forums and it seems like they had the same problem with some of their Z Ultra's and a firmware update fixed some of the people's Ultra's, but not all.
[Xperia Z1 General] DarthOps:
I got my Z1 from Clove and at first my screen was the same as yours, I'm using Auto Brightness but I noticed that you can actually dim the auto brightness a touch in the display settings which improved things a lot for me.

It was like the Auto Brightness was way too much.

Btw, what's the wallpaper you have? it's nice!
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
Are you talking about optimized back lite? That was on and I turned off and it seems to be better now. It says it optimized for battery. I also took off auto brightness and have it set to 2/3 high in brightness. I have both my z and my z1 at the same brightness. The background is nothing special. Found it online. It's high rez.
[Xperia Z1 General] xperiafan324:
I'm far from any authority on the matter, but looks like poor calibration to me , could possibly be fixed by software update but it could also be bad factory calibration, get it replaced is my suggestion. Hope your next one is perfect.

Also to everyone else getting the yellow screen issue, contact Sony they better know that this is an issue, and they should really say something on it whether it's a software glitch or a bad screen or whatever else.

Thanks for posting that, so unfortunately it seems that Sony has indeed decided to stick in the cheaper and lower quality e-IPS screens in the Z1.. AGAIN! :( Really bummed out by this.

Well, now I guess we just need a few more pixel array shots from some of the users here - especially those that have pretty much perfect looking screens (if at all possible, of course) - to see if any of the perfect looking screens are AH-IPS or if all are e-IPS.

My gut feeling is that Sony stuck to using the e-IPS panel all around, since they're still making the Z so it's not like they've stopped producing/procuring e-IPS display tech, it's just a matter of using qdot backlight instead of white backlight.

[MENTION=4648925]MouseX[/MENTION]

You better edit the OP mate, your theory that gsmarena got a fancy AH-IPS has been falsified. I think we are looking at display calibration bingo rather than display tech lottery.
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
Yes... I did contact clove and I do have a feeling that this is a software thing. It's not that bad but when u pay all this money and the screen looks better on your old device. That's tough. I even had my wife tell me which one she thinks KS looks better and she knows own nothing about this and every time, she picked the z. :(
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
Nice to hear that, as long as it beats the S4 on video quality, I don't care if it's e-ips ah-ips.

Skickat från min LT26w med Tapatalk 4
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
I feel sorry for anybody that got a bad screen.

My Z1 screen is BEAUTIFUL. It's crisp and vibrant. :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] jatt101:
Getting mine today, what batch is yours from ssj? Hopefully mine is like yours, we ordered from the same company
[Xperia Z1 General] Kingcool88:
Sorry to say that i got the Sharp display in my unit from Clove..

Sad to hear that the display could have been even better than it is right now. Its not bad, but could be better..
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
how do I check the display on my unit?
[Xperia Z1 General] RuffaloBone:
Mine came from unlocked-mobiles. I got it yesterday and the screen is flawless.
[Xperia Z1 General] DeepEmbrace:
I just got mine today and can confirm the screen is BEEEEEAAAASSSSTTTT :D

I got mine from O2 UK and compared it to the Z and Z ultra. It is very much like the Z ultras screen. It is beautiful.

Only thing bad about this device is the bootloader unlocking is not available :(

But i still love it :)
[Xperia Z1 General] DarrenT:
My pixel arrangement doesn't seem to match any of the images in this thread. Getting focus is quit difficult but I think I got close enough. Will post a pic a bit later.

Happy with the display though.
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Any Word one what Clove said to you? Does it fall under their warranty or is this final and there is no going back other than returning the device?

On Another notice all orders in Sweden at the major retailers got a 1week bump on their delivery date. They were supposed to release the 25th Sep but it has now changed to the 1st Oct, this could be because of bad displays?
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
Mine is also stunning and I had the XZ then the XZU and the Z1 is as good as if not better than the XZU

IMO The Z1 is a world beater, it covers all the bases and then some, funny I was showing it to my mate tonight who has an S4 and I ran 3Dmark just to show it off and after all the tests had finished it wouldn't give me a score lol it just said - your device has Maxed Out our benchmark and we cannot provide a score - he just looked at me and said - S4 for sale lol
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgHv1B0tts&feature=youtube_gdata_player

see this video you got your answer about z1 screen after seeing this video i m very confused now i m thinking to take s4 or note 3

i see the z1 screen have yellow tint in video

in video z1 have faulty screen ?
[Xperia Z1 General] Raspster:
They asked me to do a hard reset and said if that didn't work that they would send another unit but would check it 1st. They have been very cool about as they always been for me in the past.
[Xperia Z1 General] RuffaloBone:
Not everyone is having this screen issue. The 4 people I know who have model C6903 including myself in the US have flawless screens.
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
I've got a perfect screen! Was extremely impressed by it! Just need to get used to the Sony UI now!
[Xperia Z1 General] Clownzer:
Has anyone tried contacting Sony about this "issue"?
[Xperia Z1 General] gamerboy249:
The viewing angles seem pretty good in this video -

/watch?v=-wXphPciG9E (YouTube link)
[Xperia Z1 General] crk1995:
Can anyone from india comment about the screen quality here in india.???

I m damn confused. whether to buy it or not.

please help....
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
Go to sony centre and see it yourself... trust your eyes..
[Xperia Z1 General] gtrab:
Best answer ever.

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[Xperia Z1 General] nishant786:
Any easy way to figure which models get which screen? Like a serial number or build date?
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
Unfortunately there isn't one. You just need to spend some time with the phone and make sure you get a unit which satisfies you. There is a way to check the display manufacturer but it requires root. I
[Xperia Z1 General] gtrab:
Not sure about this.

To date, all users who have rooted and checked have said "sharp".

I haven't seen any other panel manufacturer posted, please correct me if I'm wrong, but If I'm right all this "many panel providers" story is BS.

PS: Sharp-Reneses panels, as long as I know.

Have there been other manunfacturers reported here??

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[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
surely sony would use JDİ panels. one think tho its not same panel as Z, Z1 is better panel
[Xperia Z1 General] n4v1n:
I would just like to know if someone can explain how bad are the viewing angles on the "defective" units really? I just received mine today and I can see very clearly all text on the notification bar and most large text on white backgrounds at almost a 160-170 degree angle, both vertically and horizontally.
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Viewing angles are not the issue, its with the yellow tint...
[Xperia Z1 General] trashpants:
I have 2 questions I hope you guys (especially people who have devices from handtec) can help me out with.

I have played around with the phone and I really would like to get one but, screen worries me. For reference, I've used a sony reps z1 which was a couple of weeks before release which I was informed to be an older build one (which I thought had a pretty pathetic screen). The other times I'd seen the phone in a store (carphone warehouse and Phones4u) The screens didn't look too great - I've been hoping these were older build ones

after seeing ssj_jaypee's pics his screen looks like what I was actually expecting to see!

1. Has anyone else noticed that the display /demo units they have in stores having screens that are remarkably worse than the ones you have actually received?

2. Guys who purchased their Z1 from handtec did you get the black or white devices? - if I decide to get one, id rather minimize the chance of getting a yellowed screen!

Thanks!
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
The screen isn't much different to the Z in my opinion, but that doesn't mean I'm saying it is the same screen (as others have suggested).

The thing is, I don't care because I don't look at the phone from wide angles. Sure, you can see a shift if you tilt the phone - but the difference isn't so noticeable as to make the image or text unreadable.

It's really a non-issue and I'm not convinced there are loads of different panels being used. Perhaps the author of this app could update it to work with the Z1 and we can find out once and for all?
[Xperia Z1 General] zangetsu2188:
Weak viewing angles on z1 here on Singapore. Had a hands-on in Singtel and other stores. Maybe a leftover panel from z/zl. They don't have a retail unit yet. I don't know if it will be different.
[Xperia Z1 General] lee480:
They released it in Singtel already? Mind telling what branch is it?

Those who expect stunning viewing angles from the Z1 Not happening. It better than the Z though. But direct on-screen viewing should be superior compared to others.
[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
By yellow tint do you mean a yellowish hue on the entire screen (seen in a white background)? Or is it the yellowish tint at the bottom of screen (due to glue) like it used to be on XS (initially)? I don't understand it coz I have a Z1 but don't really see a yellow tint anywhere on it. Off axis colour shift is very much present though!
[Xperia Z1 General] LessThanEqual:
I live in the UK and mine came today. I got a yellow screen too. I'm going to get it replaced.
[Xperia Z1 General] Tiamath99:
According to phonearena review the screen has horrible viewing angles.

This confirms that there are different screens, shame on you Sony, you have done it again trying to sell cheap panels as they were top ones to your loyal customers.

This is simply disgusting.
[Xperia Z1 General] jezaster:
Thats a confirmation??!! Wtf
[Xperia Z1 General] Xinterceptor:
I have attempted just about everything to get this yellow tint off basically on grey images there is a yellow hue I got the o2 preorder I had it replaced thinking it might fix it. I put the unbranded firmware maybe latest firmware might sort it but it remains unchanged I know the camera has a bug so I dont mind that but the panel is big mystery whether its worth keeping or not.
[Xperia Z1 General] daleski75:
That's a bit of a leap and so far it would seem everyone with a rooted device has reported they all have sharp screens so there is no truth in your statement unless you can back it up with cold hard facts.
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
I got my unit yesterday, it was an upgrade from Chitter Chatter. White colour and the screen is amazing, no yellow hue and viewing angles are fine :)
[Xperia Z1 General] zangetsu2188:
Not yet released. Even the pricing was not known to the singtel personnel I talked with.

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Yep, different panels. Gsmarena and phonearena's review units have different screens.
[Xperia Z1 General] fallenwout:
Just to be curious, can you try the same as in my youtube video and compare it? Just take a full black picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai3M7ndr6kY
[Xperia Z1 General] masterv1:
Could you root your phone please and then post which panel you got.

thank you.
[Xperia Z1 General] daleski75:
I am sorry but unless gsmarena and phonearena post the manufacturer's of their screens with a rooted phone then no one can say they have different screens also have you even factored in that no two screens are identical even if they come off the same production line.

All this is doing is adding confusion and doubt to this thread with no real proof to back up your statement and you really cannot tell just by looking at some pictures on some review sites.
[Xperia Z1 General] trashpants:
That's exactly what I was seeing with the ones in the stores! If this is normal its ridiculous :(
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
I think i am lucky no screen issue.. there is a slight greying out in angle..not heads on... Z ultra had this issue being.. H-ips... all IPS have white glow from extreme angle.... but greying from heads on is terrible.lucky i dont have that issue..
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
Just tried this.

I created a pure black image and loaded it up in the image viewer, my brightness was set in the middle, nothing else adjusted.

and it was nothing like your video, the room i'm in is well lit and also tried to cover the phone to get a darker surrounding.

there is a slight grey but nothing as bad as the video.

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Sorry not rooting my phnoe just yet, no need to for me personally. I only root once i get to the end of the phones life/I get bored and want to try something else on it.
[Xperia Z1 General] bucho2004:
I've recently got a Xperia z1 and exchanged it for another z1, I also had a couple Xperia z sharp and (jdi) screens, so I think Iam in a good position to express my opinion on the z1.

Let me start of by saying the first z1 was slightly inferior to my second z1 that I own now. And by slightly I mean SLIGHTLY. The first had more warmer whites, then my current one. And my current z1 maybe has slightly better viewing angles than my previous z1, but that just could be a perception because of the colder whites.

Both of the xz1 have a superior screen compared to the Xperia z (jdi and sharp) better colours, better blacks, and better viewing angles, th Xperia z1 has a fantastic screen, confirmed by mates with a HTC one and galaxy s4.

While it still might not be as constratsly colourful as it's rivals, in movies and photo viewing in my opinion the Xperia Z1 is best of all. it's certainly a massive improvement over the Xperia z and is now just truly a matter of preference,
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
Can you confirm if you took a black image from the camera or created one on a computer? as a black image on the camera wont be true black?
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Here is a black image I made in paint and this is on a sharp screen(100% brightness) - Sorry for the bad quality photo

Seriously though the Z1 in the Youtube video above is just faulty and should be returned for a checkup
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
Mines like that :) and I did the exact same(but 50% bightness).
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
Hello fellow Z1 owners for those of you who do experience yellow tinting I would suggest downloading an app called "Screen Adjuster". I have increased the blues to +4 and now the whites look perfect. It seems that the issue is with wrong screen calibration and not with the screen itself.
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Which is good for a lcd screen, the colours are also accurate on mine. Viewing angles aren't the best around but I am not watching a video on my phone with a super tilted phone.

Mine is sitting on +3 blue and +1 green +0 red and it is seriously perfect now so yeah check out Screen adjuster if you have minor colour accuracy problems
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
That is exactly how the XZU screen looks in low light - it's IPS
[Xperia Z1 General] fallenwout:
Yes, it was a true black screen when the phone was stuck in booting or when the backlight doesn't go off in standby (other topic). So it wasn't actually a picture, just backlight with nothing.

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Well that is fugly. Glad I got a refund if they are all like that.
[Xperia Z1 General] zangetsu2188:
So how can gsmarena praised its screen with resolved viewing angles when in fact units in Singapore have abysmal viewing angles when compared side by side with the Z ultra? They even mentioned that the screen is better than the ultra. I'm still waiting for the retail units to be released.
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
I don't think that would be a true representative of the screen as usually ignite just the back light and no actual image then it will be worse. Try actually having a black image on your phone and then check the angles
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Ehhh when the phone is booting the black surroundings around the boot animation and the Sony logo is a lot brighter than actually turning on a complete black picture. So try it again with af completely black screen that you can make in Paint and then see the results before returning your device
[Xperia Z1 General] fallenwout:
ok you might be right about it not being true black since there are no pixels electrified.

I still got a refund cause of the other issues I had with it. Couldn't get it out standby, random reboot and if I was lucky it booted. Otherwise reset was needed. Couldn't get the screen off when putting in stanby... If you watch the other videos you'll understand.

I wish you luck with the Z1. I'm kinda sad since I really looked forward in using it. Sony UI is clean and pollished. Maybe the Z2, who knows :cyclops:
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Sorry to hear that, better luck next time for both Sony and you :P
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
All IPS screens are like that - do a little research

My Z1 is working perfectly, am I lucky or is there a lot of BS on this thread
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
A bit of both I would say, some people just want to trashtalk because it's sony, some do it because it is actually bad and some do it when they don't know what they are talking about
[Xperia Z1 General] zippy1990:
So I think my screen actually looks good but just to get it out of the way, how can I check my screen and what is good and what's a bad result?
[Xperia Z1 General] Davith:
Sony deserves some serious backlash for this. Totally unacceptable. They won't get my money either. And I was so looking forward to getting this phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] shaz2sxy:
Not sure what the issues are,mines spot on and sooo are many others. Most people who are slagging the phone off dont even have it
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
Here is my screen before and after using Screen Adjuster:
[Xperia Z1 General] PhoenixMert:
I'm on two my second Z1, first one had a yellow tint. The second does not at all really nice whites but viewing angles still suck. I'm going to be getting my 3rd replacement tomorrow if this one isn't better then I shall be getting a note 3. I'm really upset because the software is awesome and so is the design. Damn shame.
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Links are fail.. Might want to redo them! Also what settings did u use in it?