[Galaxy S 4 General] Absolon:
Have I missed something or is this acronym BYOD - "Bring your own device" that Samsung keep using something that really exist?

Has anyone had their employer saying "Go and buy a phone and then use it while you work with our top secret project"?

Or is this yet another invention, like calling intentional damage to devices for "security"?

But the face is now that we are standing without any means to

HAVE

security since all programs that could possibly give us that need to be root because it has to have a higher privilege other the other programs to be able to oversee them and we can't use them since our phones gets blown up is we try to use that.

I'm doing all I can to return my devices and never buy anything from Samsung yet again. Their way of treating it's customers, by being rude on the phone, ignoring inquiries totally or sending pre-made templates with no information, their lack of transparency and their highly questionable methods they use, like for instance when they released that update to us "arming" Knox without prior information nor warnings that damaged our phones. That was an ugly, deliberate malicious and utterly despicable way to treat their customers like that.

That it was aimed at the harmless people who had obtained root and just wanted to customize their devices here at XDA is pretty obvious. It's here that "small population" that are rooting their devices reside and I have not seen any reports ever that someone with root did something sinister to some cell network and I have been here quite a while but not starting to really posts until this started.

I will mend my signature a little bit, but I still believe the purpose and the investment into R&D and implementation of Knox and then also pushing it on consumer devices just so they can see if the phone goes under the warranty or not is a bad return of investment.

And the Samsung employees, who sit here as users, and stating things to make us divided is just another strategy because if me and so many others have been trying to get ANY answers from Samsung but utterly failed gets corrected when I state a blatant lie, then I ask myself "How the duck can he know THAT?" when all we get is a letter from Steve and they can't even answer the simple question of "specification of damage do to the phone" or where this "efuse data" is so we can avoid it.

This is a really really bad "thriller" made by Samsung that would get 1.4 on IMDB at most and that just because they would force their employees to put a 10 to it (have you notices that all movies, splendid and brilliant or really bad ones always get a certain number of 10 and likewise 0?).

So please, if anyone, who are working with sensitive material, of any kind, have heard of this "BOYD"-phenomena that Samsung claims exist, and not gotten a company phone, can you please just voice that you have met, heard, or read about this?

Because everywhere where I have been working with sensitive information, and getting the security clearance, governmental classification, the things has been the opposite, "leave your private things at home and only use the device we provide you with, that we have made secure, checked and properly installed" to uphold the security.

I would have got kicked out of work if I would brought my own laptop with me and just jacked it in. "Yeah boss. I have some warez but I read on Piratebay that the keygen/crack that the antivirus warns against is just a false positive and all it takes is just to exclude that file from being scanned". But it's a really cool game!"

The invention of things that don't exist, or the rephrase of sinister actions as something good has been used throughout the history with sometimes really grim consequences.

Of course I don't think that Samsung would want to kill me. YET ;)

They are just another prime example of a company in a leading position that get this grandiose psychosis in thinking that their high market share can let then do whatever they please towards the users.

Here I yet again take Nokia as a prime example how fast the market can change when users get disgruntled and has anybody here, who got their phone destroyed not told theirs friends, family, coworkers about this?

Bad stains on the brand are VERY hard to remove.

And that was a funny thing. I was out to buy some nice wine to a nice person doing nice things because that person was altruistic and helpful, and I got hold of an expert, because I don't drink alcohol, to ask about a bottle of wine on the "higher shelf" since I felt to give something really good.

He said: "Italy is popular right now and France is slowly climbing but often avoided, you know, because of this nuclear bomb thing".

What he talked about was the wide protest of French wine that happened after their nuclear test, just before the ban, in 1996!!

Almost 20 years later people still don't buy French wine because that stain on the brand has not yet been washed away.

Same with the sweat-shops in Philippines for a sport-shoe brand. Won't mention the name because it's irrelevant, but people still choose something else and that was over 10 years ago.

So "SS" will be yet another brand that means unscrupulous greed and handling their consumers as cattle.

Sorry for the /unintentional/ reference when I shorten your name. ;)

/Abs who still think that the lack of transparency, the questionable methods used by Samsung stinks prevention and deterrence of getting insight what is really going on.

---------- Post added at 11:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 AM ----------

There are no pre-Knox bootloaders to I9506

but if you are investigating the matters of Knox please give me a PM.

And Note 3 and I9506 are build on the same board. So we will, as soon I get the time (end of the year book keeping that has to be in the 24th December 23:59), but then I will spend my free time to fully concentrate on this matter, as promised.

I will do, whatever I possibly can, to help my friends and fellow users here to bring clarity and justice into this. That I have promised and that I will keep.

I just have to finish this ducking paper work and accounting that MUST be done and sent in, thank god electronically, but before 2014-01-01 00:00

In Sweden beating someone to death, drunk driving or selling narcotics stars from fines, probation and and at 8 years of prison.

The breaking of taxation

starts

at 6 months of prison and ends at 6 years!

That means that some has gotten away with 2 years for manslaughter while others got 4 for having black labor. (YES IT IS TRUE!)

/Abs