yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] gsmyth:
Because the new budget phones are designed/optimised with KitKat in mind with a lot less functions and bloat, whereas the S3 Mini released nearly two years ago was built with 4.1 Jellybean in mind. As I said they probably could create a 4.4.2 update, but it would be work they are not willing to do for what what they would probably consider a minority.

Plus after looking at Samsung latest advert they would rather you updated to a new device, rather than update the older models.

http://www.360nobs.com/2014/07/samsung-tells-you-why-you-should-ditch-your-galaxy-s3-for-a-galaxy-s5-video/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] koragg97:
Our S3 Mini is capable of handling KitKat, no doubt. BUT without source codes from STE, who just adandoned us like street dogs :(, it's very very hard to make an official update coming from Samsung. [MENTION=3609443]mclaw[/MENTION] has an awesome ROM, but it's vanilla android, not Samsung android. Plus it has some minor and not so minor bugs that need fixing. In other words, Samsung did try to upgrade our phones, but just couldn't succeed, because of STE (idiots). Also the VE has a Qualcomm processor, which is clocked at 1.2GHZ and is better than NovaThor (even if both were 1GHZ, Qualcomm would still be better). That's why for Christmas I'm buying an S5, upgrading it to Android L (ollipop), because the update WILL come to a flagship phone and am just gonna live a few years of my life without worrying about updates, lag, battery life or handy features :)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] KoolKid98189:
That's the most stupidest thing I have ever seen!

1.Why would Samsung compare their own products?

2. Why would you ditch a perfectly operational and capable S3 for more features that S3 could offer just as well as S5?

3. Throwing away phones are harmful for the environment and on top of all that Samsung is encouraging it!

But then what about the original S3?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] koragg97:
They're too lazy to work harder and update it :D I don't really care about updates if my phone is functioning normally at the moment :P
[Galaxy S III Mini General] tsigiotis:
when?

one year passed and we still waiting for the official KitKat..... no more hope to be true.....:crying:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] KoolKid98189:
They can't even update to 4.2.2 since the manufacturer of our chip (ST Ericsson) went bust and were unable to provide any kernel sources :(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Nope they were made personally they didn't come from anyone
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Black_Armor:
I hope to update our model.. if the model at&t will come out with 4.2, is possible international model get update..

Sorry by my english..

at&t S3 mini
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Too bad its not the same hardware. Att took it to another level
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
does AT&T s3 mini cost 0.99$?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Black_Armor:
With contract, no unlocked
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
1 dollar for a phone?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] vriz27:
Plus dollars for two year contract with at-t. i don't think it's only a dollar...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Isus <3:
Yeah but with a contract.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] dylan07:
I keep reading that people claim the Samsung S3 mini does not run 4.2 officially. But I just got one the other day from AT&T.

Model number: Sumsung-SM-G730A

Android version:

4.2.2

Baseband version:

G730AUCUAMH4

Kernel Version:

3.4.0-1299773

se.infrag@RD210-01 #1

Wed Aug 21 13:15:42 KST 2013

Build version:

JDQ39.G730AUCUAMH4

What is the difference between the GT-I8190 and the SM-G730A?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] gkhan136:
Its good very good :)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Android kitkat is supposed to be compatible with many devices they said it in the video. So is there any hope s3 mini gets the update without driver update or something like this?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
All os are compatible you just have to do kernel related and device source things to update it or configure it correctly . There is no way samsung will release an update without having new drivers. Never has an update been released without updated drivers. You will be able to use its kernel though which is good and some of the blobs not all of them since some will be cpu/gpu specific . Only custom roms allow updates with old drivers.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] LordwinOfficial:
IKR he does good stuff, so does tys0n

Sent from my I8190N. Be kind, everybody is fighting a hard battle.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Let's see just downloaded the att version kernel from Samsung open source

Just to let you know its no where configurable for s3 mini or exhibit

It is 3.4 saber toothed squirell which is nice. Also att isn't the only company in there found

Vzw

USC

Tmo

Spr

also it is based on serrano boards which is s4 mini https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...arch/arm/configs/msm8930_golden_att_defconfig

This device is nothing new therefore it should be easier to have cm fully working if you get this s3 mini . Idk if you want to wait and see if the other versions drop. I want the tmo version

From kernel zip defconfig has more to it

CONFIG_MACH_GOLDEN_ATT=y

CONFIG_2MIC_QUP_I2C_GSBI11=y

CONFIG_ESD_ERR_FG_RECOVERY=y

CONFIG_JACK_VDD_CTRL=y

CONFIG_AUTHENTEC_VPNCLIENT_INTERCEPTOR=m

# RTCC

CONFIG_SWAP=y

CONFIG_ZRAM=y

CONFIG_ZRAM_DEBUG=y

CONFIG_ZRAM_FOR_ANDROID=y

CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR=y

CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_SWAP=y

CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR_SWAP_ENABLED=y
[Galaxy S III Mini General] gsmyth:
Whilst this isn't necessarily stating that the S3 Mini wont get Kitkat, it doesn't look very promising at all. As it looks like Knox is something Samsung will be pushing to all devices running 4.4 and beyond.

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/08/internal-knox-document-confirms-android-4-4-for-multiple-samsung-devices/#.UlPMMVz4A48.twitter
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
So s3 mini wont get an official update? :(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] gsmyth:
There hasn't been any official word but it doesn't sound likely.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] GanjaNinjaaa:
I kinda knew it that the S3 mini won't get 4.4. Samsung only do it for the big ones like S3, S4 etc like before :(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] omarblu:
We don't need Ste/samsung wen we got maclaw studio!
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
What nonsense :)

Maclaw doesn't have one stable release that will run without any issues.

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Benzonat0r:
And he's what? A bloody magician? Oh please spare me the supervillain Riff...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] tom3073:
i hope we get the kitkat. have a brake have a kitkat:D:D
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Gusta_HR:
I dont think so. S4 mini will get it thats sure but our device is allready outdated.

Sent from the other side of my Galaxy!
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
We may not get touchwiz but maclaw is there and his releases are very stable now
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
Who cares, there are more honest and professional people developing for our s3mini, like oliverg96 for example :)

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Official is better in any way man... No bugs and we would get s4 features :(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] klopp-o-mat:
Yes man. Thats why i dont use cm. Bcz i love TW
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Insanius:
CM is almost bugfree. I prefer native Android over laggy Touchwiz so CM is the best for me. Can't wait for Maclaw's KitKat :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
"almost" anyway whatever everyone likes...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] wtx1033:
I would settle for 4.3 for now let alone 4.4

I wonder will we get 4.3 update? because s3 users are getting it today-ish.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
No we won't :mad:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Gad81:
Jebite se i vi i cmod,volim Benz romove :D

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Love TW and stock roms :D,wait Benz rom :)

Dmodv6 with my mod
[Galaxy S III Mini General] brainiac.cm:
Alo, bez psovanja :D Ima previše ex - yu ljudi ovde...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Gad81:
Zato i rekoh :))
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
ya we got google translator too
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Kitkat no but 4.2 yes: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2513798

Great news about official 4.2.2 update!!!

Cool isn't it? :D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S III Mini General] alonsoch:
for my is best CM than stock... stock is ugly... and is slow... and old... and if will be 4.2.2 i think that will help to the developers like maclaw.. or someone..

but we have android 4.3 very very stable... and in a few days or weeks android 4.4 y think that is too late for android 4.2....... we are in xda, for the normal world 4.2.2 is great upgrade, for my is old...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] New Macław:
Of course S3 Mini will get KitKat ;)

http://maclaw.pl/2013/11/10/project-kitkat-has-started/

http://maclaw.pl/2013/11/10/another-kitkat-photos/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Lol we were talking about Samsung official kitkat.... OK cm is fine anyway :p
[Galaxy S III Mini General] giltros1:
This is great news genius: Bueno:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] kilicaslan17:
Whose care about samsung.Cyanogenmod is making cm11.That's all :victory:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] luka_cro:
Yess :))
[Galaxy S III Mini General] 4everAnoob:
less than nine thousand pico percent chance that will ever happen
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
You Remind me of physics picoCoulomb! And about the update have you read the leaked sammobile article? I think that we have a chance to Get it like 40%...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] tom1491:
It would be good if that were real. However I'm enjoying using CM 11.0 by Maclaw. I think he is doing his best to solve bugs. Now I prefer what I can use, not what I don't know when it will come. Hope it would be as the source said, Samsung.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
how about 70% because we are top 2 in the list and specs
[Galaxy S III Mini General] n0iz3d:
KitKat 4.4 would be great! :D
[Galaxy S III Mini General] wtx1033:
this thread should be removed for it is utter bull****.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
Fortunately it is not up to you to decide what people like to talk about :)

But it is completely up to you to decide, what you read ;)

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] wtx1033:
it's misleading and if people wanna be mislead, yeah sure. keep at it.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
...maybe a ? at the and of the thread title would be better than !, in deed...

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] rockknee:
Sure s3 mini will get/has already got kitkat but not propably OFFICIAL samsung update. If sammobile is right we might get official too, but I don't think so. I think STericsson is the company to blame if support by samsung stops to android 4.1.2. It's the source code...
[Galaxy S III Mini General] dreamer1981:
If comes our device so cool
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Walseth:
:eek: If this is true then I guess S4 will definitely have one too right? Can't wait for this update! :D
[Galaxy S III Mini General] wtx1033:
i wouldn't hold my breath...at all
[Galaxy S III Mini General] danielsinnema:
I don't think the S3 mini will ever have an update to a newer version of Android.

From where did this website get this information?

Why is the big S3 not on the list?

I don't believe the S3 mini will get 4.4 earlier than S3.

An update to 4.4 would be nice, but I don't think S3 mini users will get it.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] bootlicker31:
already got it from maclaw :d
[Galaxy S III Mini General] dariopnc:
my 2¢

Just tryin' to connect the dots:

1. STE (the company that made the NovaThor processor) is out of business so it is really hard to get some drivers code to be released or licensed

2. Samsung was considering updating s3mini (aka golden) to 4.4 KitKat

3. Macław studio already released some 4.4 roms for s3mini

please correct me if I'm wrong with these (or the following) assumptions

- Samsung considered the update and since they wouldn't probably get support from STE they decided against it.

- it is indeed possible to get some support from STE: obviously in an unofficial way: leaks, etc. but I think this is really unlikely

Now there's the part I cannot get:

Is it necessary to have any new file released to build 4.4 for s3mini? If so, how could Macław studio release such a rom? If not why couldn't Samsung (even with support from Macław studio) proceed by itself?

Do we really have to think that Samsung has less resources than Macław studio, however good it is?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
Hey dude its the problem with touchwiz integration and don't blame Samsung and maclaw ported cm nicely doesn't mean that Sammy doesn't have resources its like complications while update if it released KitKat in hurry like s3 ( u know it right bugs until k6 update which resulted in loss of many features)

---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 PM ----------

I think u r a poor news reader its just testing a build and of course s3 will be the first one to get kat
[Galaxy S III Mini General] sonoboy:
Hi, I'm new to this forum and just trying to get as much assistance as I can. Has anyone tried this as yet? As I'm new I am unable to post the link properly. I hope the admins permit me to post this as is.

au.ibtimes.com/articles/531714/20131224/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-android-4.htm#.Urw6dPsswSk
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
Hello welcome to xda , you must read the rules properly and post carefully

and im not too old here but ive learned little

the post u are asking is cm 11 by maclaw (it can be found at maclaw.pl) to do this u need to know how to flash a mod and rooting and stuff

if u know it pardon me or else there are lot of tutorials here the best thing is do it urself never ask until you cant do it or learn it

if u have to ask pm me i got lots of free time
[Galaxy S III Mini General] nico331999:
Visit maclaw.pl :) I dont make adverts, because I have always the latest cm11 with KitKat and nearly every day there is an update for each Rom. There is aosp, cm11/10, PAC Android, Olivers custom cm, aokp and more. As said its not an ad, its only a recommend because they work VERY hard for s3 mini unofficial roms.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I8190 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
I e-mailed Samsung again. They told me that last official version is 4.1.2 and there are no news about any update.. :( I don't think that we will get kitkat :(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] klopp-o-mat:
:eek: :(

Were i'll get Samsungs email adress?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] infurnius:
Well, you can go to the Samsung website of your country and there you can ask for support, you can send an e-mail or you can ask a question via Twitter (I don't know if that's able in any country).
[Galaxy S III Mini General] klopp-o-mat:
Thx i will do so

Gesendet von meinem GT-I8190
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Post their answer here please
[Galaxy S III Mini General] GXGOW:
I don't have the patience to wait for Samsung to finally update their cheaper devices. That's one of the reasons why I've rooted my phone.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] infurnius:
Well, I also sent an email to Samsung and I finally got an answer.

Dank u voor uw e-mail met betrekking tot uw Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini. U geeft aan dat u wilt weten wanneer de volgende update uitkomt en welke versie dit is.

Graag had ik u dit verteld, echter hebben wij geen informatie over updates meneer. Deze worden ons ook zeer kort van tevoren bekend gemaakt en dit is over de SIII Mini nog niet bekendgemaakt. Daarom kan ik u nu niets met zekerheid aangeven. Ik hoop u hiermee voldoende geinformeerd te hebben en wens u nog een hele fijne zondag.

Heeft u nog vragen dan kunt u altijd contact opnemen met ons Contact Center. Dit kan telefonisch, via e-mail of via de live chat op onze website.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Huseyin Tas

And here you go in English (I used Google translate :D)

Thank you for your email regarding your Samsung Galaxy SIII Mini. You indicate that you want to know when the next update comes out and what version it is.

I would have told you this, but we have no information about updates, sir. These are also very shortly be announced ahead of time and this is not yet published on the SIII Mini.

Oh and I only translated the part you needed, the rest is about how to contact Samsung, I hope this helped.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
I think we are done with samsung as we have only 5 months of update service

by Gods grace we have maclaw
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
...and(!) thehacka1... ;)

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] stenc55:
People, you can forget about Samsung developing and releasing KitKat for 3mini. Remember SGS1? It didn't get official ICS because (their reply to my mail) "HW in SGS1 is not capable of running ICS." They didn't care that in that time ICS was working on that phone way better than GB...

It's their policy. You have flagship current SGS4 and SGS4 mini, future that everyone is expecting (SGS5, announced) and obsolete in their eyes (SGS3 mini).

If they upgrade SGS3 mini, they will lose about 1/3 of potential buyers that would go for SGS5. They don't want that people stick to "old" stuff, there is no profit in that. Remember SGS1 again? That piece of magnificence (best phone ever build by Samsung) is running KitKat! So all those people still on SGS1 are lost cause for Samsung's profit. According to Samsung they should buy SGS2, SGS3, SGS4 and in 4 months SGS5 and not stick for the same phone 4 years.

As I said, if you have same phone in your pocket more than 1 year, Samsung ( and any other manufacturer, be honest about that) is treating you as lost investment. By not updating second generation phones (and tabs) they will get a lot of people to buy new, better, updated blahblah phone, and when that new, better, updated phone will be second generation they will forget about it again, like they did for SGS3 mini. That's market's, focused only on profit, reality.

Sorry to bring you bad news, but you already knew that.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] infurnius:
I still have hope that they update the software to KitKat, I think they won't do it in the next 6 months or so, but after that, what do they've got to lose? There are still people who want a low budget phone and if they see that SGS3 mini is still getting updates, the phone will probably get popular among some people.

Either way, I was looking at the price again and I saw that it has raised in price, I bought mine 2 months ago for 219,- euro, and now it is in the same store for 250,- euro! So the phone is increasing it's popularity I think.

(sorry for my English :o)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
...I`m afraid you are complitly right...

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Tuzuriro:
hope samsung gives update our s3 mini to 4.4
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Yes but now they will lose the people who bought s3 mini and they were disappointed by the lack of updates.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] infurnius:
I think so too, the people will be dissapointed and will go to Apple or something, somewhere they'll know they get updates :)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
...hope dies last... ;)

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] bebseh:
If this phone does not get 4.4 i am moving to iphone.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Ok this is right but I am absolutely not going to iPhone. I'm gonna buy a Samsung device. Maybe that's why Samsung doesn't want to update their phones,maybe she knows that everyone eventually will buy another Samsung device.. :'(
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
Go for nexus with iPhone leave about updates my brother phone lost speakers in one year and software problem won't boot into dustbin

IPhone work great until it works:p

So nexus is better
[Galaxy S III Mini General] infurnius:
Agree, once you go Android you never go back, but I think I might just buy a nexus or so, because Samsung dissapoints me if they don't update their devices :D
[Galaxy S III Mini General] thehacka1:
Its nice to see people care. :)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] meduza:
...I thought, you know, we are with you and your excellent work on carbon kk ... ;)

m.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] chacox:
You could try CM11 by Maclaw then
[Galaxy S III Mini General] JackAce23:
Yeah but there are still some minor ( or not so minor for some) issues on that version... It would be great to get original update and then other roms that branch out of the original one ;)
[Galaxy S III Mini General] zatrzask:
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully they will develop for us working kitkat
[Galaxy S III Mini General] eswarvf:
Sorry for that u r in maclaws team so it implied inditmrectly to maclaw team

Ill be carefull when mentioning from now
[Galaxy S III Mini General] betizad:
Does this news confirm anything?

Samsung details KitKat update plans for US Galaxy phones and tabs

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/18/samsung-kitkat-us/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
I think that these updates come for AT&T phones... But I'm not sure. Someone else may know... :what:
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Those are all qcomm devices which makes sense.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] josip-k:
Hmm..i think we should get it,it doesnt make sense if they update just At&t one.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] :
Sorry but what is qcomm?
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Qualcomm is a mobile processor vendor. Very popular.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] PedroM.CostaAndrade:
see this:

http://maclaw.pl/2014/02/18/kitkat-annouced-by-samsung-but/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
I already know that. It has a qualcomm CPU msm8930. Same with tab 3 mine has a Marvell CPU yet the ones with qualcomm are getting 4.4. Qualcomm code is very clean and support is very good and it's easier to work with and bring up. This is always the case no one wants to recode when CPU vendors don't have code for newer android versions. Ste died with 4.1 and Samsung has no time to go and recode until it's stable.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Hmmy 4444:
Samsung rules.. Htc sucks... Htc One X could also get the 4.4.2 but thanks to htc it is possible ..
[Galaxy S III Mini General] klopp-o-mat:
http://www.n-tv.de/12300696

Its german but its real

Gesendet von meinem GT-I8190
[Galaxy S III Mini General] pedromcm_pm:
Update

Actually it may do, because Qualcomm produces much better chips than Samsung or STE, and ours is a Novathor. Because the ATT models have a much faster and efficient chip, form a company that is kicking *ass, they should get updated.

Qualcomm is the best chip designer, after Apple. Everyone uses ARM (cofounded by Apple in the nineties) has a "starting point". Samsung copies and pastes that for the exynos, while producing "bad" chips, Apple does an outstanding engineering job by making a more powerful and efficient ARM chip, and Qualcomm is in the middle. The best Android devices have Qualcomm chips, even a few from Samsung (the exynos is a joke...)

Maybe you didn't read the news, but HTC will focus much more on future updates and Samsung is the one that won't update even a few S3 variants. In fact, lots of devices with a sh*tty samsung SoC won't be updated.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] SaschaCGN:
Real for Qualcom US smartphones and not for our STE devices.

ATM we can only speculate about official kitkat für STE.
[Galaxy S III Mini General] Unjustified Dev:
Maybe you should search but Samsung made apple processor.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/apples-a7-processor-in-the-iphone-5s-is-made-by-samsung-50012304/
[Galaxy S III Mini General] pedromcm_pm:
Of course, just like qualcomm processors and pretty much anything that needs manufacturing. Do you even know what you are talking about? They manufacture (and TSMC, foxconn, etc) because Apple designed them. Just like Eiffel designed the tower and someone else build it.

When samsung tries to engineer and designe something as complex as a SoC, we know what happens. Samsung doesn't have the talent, but when they could do the right thing, as updating our device, they don't.

I have no sympathy for them.