yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Well, mine is now on order, should arrive in the next couple of days. I figure it will be fun to play with even if it has a few issues! ;)

[MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION], I have no idea what you are talking about, but if there is anything I can do with a brand new stock EC309 that might help in any way, just let me know!
[Other SmartWatches] slim_thumb:
You can try this app that changes the NTP server of your region (I suspect the EC309 was set to China):

Google Play search "FasterGPS"

You need to switch on wifi (connected to the internet) and GPS at the same time in order to search for GPS satellites quickly. Best do it outdoor under clear sky (provided your wifi signal stretch that far). Hopefully when the first search is successfully, your watch will remember them and subsequent GPS locks will be much faster.

Google Play search "GPS status"

This app helps you search for and lock onto GPS satellites before you start using any GPS apps like Google Maps.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'll have to play with it and compare. I know by going through engineering mode it got the lock times to 30sec or less from a cold boot.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
The only issues I saw were related to not being able to install Google voice search, which I think is essential given the size of the keyboard. So I ended up trying firmware that wasn't supposed to be and killed my watch pretty bad. It wouldn't turn on, and at one point USB wouldn't recognize it. But I didn't give up, and knew that there had to be some factory way to reset, most MTK devices you can remove the battery then plug in USB then put the battery back in, then it will flash, but the ec309 has a hard wired battery. So what I discovered was that you can power the thing off, take a voltmeter to read the battery leads, this would reset the device into firmware download mode when you plug into USB, then I could download my backup firmware. But not knowing what I was doing at the time, that firmware backup was not complete image, so I looked for any MTK6577 and with varying success, I Frankensteined it back up to where it would boot the logo then kind of sit there, but USB would recognize it and load the drivers.

Finally I found this thread, over on the Zgpax s5 forum, took his firmware and with MTK SP Flashtool was able to fully boot back to life, everything works! Except the camera is oriented wrong, the watch faces wont unlock, the rotation sensor is funny, but by golly, it ain't a brick! :laugh:

So, to answer the how to help question, if someone can take a brand new stock ec309 without any personal settings on it and use MTK SP Flashtool to create a complete backup, zip that up somewhere then we've got a base firmware to kick of this platform. I'm using SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1352.01 that I found by googling "mtk sp flashtool tutorial" In the meantime, I have contacted the seller and requested a factory ROM, but being Chinese New Year and all, it will understandably be a while to expect some response.

Also sorry I see my image links to dropbox are broken in previous post, I'll update that later, just some detail of the circuit board.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
OK [MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION] - as soon as I get my watch I'll do a dump with the flashtool and see what I get. Not sure how yet, but it will be a couple of days before it gets here, so I've got time to learn!
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
A verified flashable dump would be great.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
Having tried every GPS test app, engineer mode solution, and everything else I can think of, nothing seems to make the watch find any satellites whatsoever. So I think the GPS unit / antenna must be faulty, and I'll see what the sellers come up with by way of a refund or replacement. Everything else seems fine on the EC309 "TIGON" apart from the less-than-ideal battery life when using it in anger. Let me know how yours works out when you get it, [MENTION=3017395]Mitic[/MENTION]hi
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Sorry to hear it [MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION] - but from a purely selfish point of view, I'm quite curious to see how you go with refund / returns to a chinese online supplier. Good luck!
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Just a quick question - can anyone confirm this looks reasonable and I shouldn't brick my phone?

I plan to use MTKDroidTools to root the watch, and generate a scatter file, then use this scatter file in SP Flash Tools to generate a full dump of the ROM. Does that sound reasonable? Any better tools / approach, or anything else that may be more likely to produce a complete and not corrupt dump? Anything else that I should try before I start messing with it too much?
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
I don't think there is much risk, just check all boxes before making dump, should be good. In any case please please post your findings.
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
I have an EC309 and I've been testing it for a few weeks. My gps has always worked. I have had some strange battery indicator issues where the battery appears to not be discharging very fast then it plummets. Same with charging where it appears to be charging slowly then suddenly shoots up. Maps, roku, gmail, eBay, weather pro, twitter, YouTube, shazam, tapatalk, tune in radio, m secure, diversion are all working. Facebook does not work as it just says unfortunately Facebook has stopped. Facebook Messenger works if you go via a notification. Dropbox and play music are installed but they cannot be opened because the next button is not visible! I would love to know how to get Facebook to work? The battery lasts from about 8 am to 5 pm with not much use. I seem to get the best with 3G off and wifi on. I use 3G when I don't care about the battery level. It works with 3G 2100mhz but you need to turn authentication type to "none" in network access point names click the one you are using to access the options, in my case Vodafone post pay ISP. The charger cable has a non standard micro USB metal end length (longer) so normal micro USB leads do not connect properly. I think I found an eBay seller who has leads with longer ends so I just ordered one. Instead of Facebook I'm using fast pro which works. Build quality of screen strap and buttons is good. The back is a bit poor and hard to remove. When it's off you see the hard wired battery with vibration module fitted to it with tape. I would have thought it would be quite easy to put a new battery in if needed. I am happy with the watch but I would prefer a better battery life. I think it's the best device available though at the moment IMO.
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
Actually thinking about it the thing that seemed to save the most battery was turning off all gps and location services. I have had a reasonable life with 3G and wifi on while I've been at work. Here's a pic of GPS fix
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
The Flit keyboard is good as you press a big key and slide to select the actual letter or number which works well on such a small device
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Put everything into one post PLEASE!

To everybody else. I STILL cannot get a flashable backup or firmware for this device. As a result I am sending back the development unit that was sent to me at the end of the week. I'd really love to help out but without at least one of these I do not feel comfortable pushing edits and changes to the device.
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
longer micro USB so you need to carry the cable round. Charges fine with this cable into my portable battery.
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
Sincere apologies for multiple posts. I was not aware this causes an issue. I was hoping to find out some more about this device and maybe let some people know what works and what doesn't as I could not find any reviews in it. Anyone know why my Facebook won't work?
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Very sorry to hear that - I was really hoping that with a few tweaks we may actually get this to be a pretty good device, but it's going to be harder without you to help out. I can't believe no one has the firmware, and the manufacturers won't give it to you... That really sucks.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Hopu doesn't respond to emails (been trying for months), the vendors either don't have it or don't respond.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I would have thought the point of sending you a dev unit was so you could work together to get the best product you can, why would you then not respond to emails afterwards?? I wouldn't be too surprised the vendors don't have it, but Hopu must.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
I had similar battery results. It looks like there's enough room in the case for a larger battery, mine came with a KXD5035PL 500mah lipo. I'll check with my EE friends but I think you can stack in parallel or swap out a higher capacity safely. Would be an intesting mod if so.

As for apps, I was unable to log into DropBox, it never presented a log in dialog after the splash screen, most likely a UX design issue.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Can you give me a link to the cable you bought on ebay? I'm struggling to find any, and by the sound of it I'm probably going to need a spare or two...
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
The guy is in china not uk as stated

http://bit.ly/1ePjSzl

And I'm only going by the photo as it looks longer! If it arrives longer I'll buy another!
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
Debricking progress

So as I left off in previous post, I had the Zgpax S5 ROM mostly working, and a partial backup of the ec309 missing PRELOADER and DSP_BL. Hoping I could smush the two together to get a workable ROM, I proceeded to try mixing up partitions from each with flashtool, most of the time it would flash but get stuck in boot logo, but I could always go back to Zgpax. This time through, I didn't need to do the voltmeter trick. The scatter files were only different in a couple of addresses, so it seemed worth a try.

Bug list so far was lock screen would not unlock, which sucks, camera is upside down, which sucks less, rotation sensor was funny, and some chinglish keyboard. Wifi worked, still have play store.

Then it occurred to me that much of the suckyness could have been the kernel, so I downloaded just boot.img from my ec309 backup using my original scatter file, instead of trying to restore the whole backup, and this indeed fixed the lock screen and rotation sensor. :D

Camera still upside down, but who cares for now, wifi still works. I actually prefer the UI vs the windows thing on 309.

It turns out to be rooted already with busybox, so I copied modem firmware to /system/etc/firmware/modem_1_wg_n.img inserted SIM reboot... and t-mo activated something but still getting invalid IMEI.

Anyway, MUCH better now, back to usability, but more work to do.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Congrats! Sounds like you are doing much better than me... I have my watch at last, I suspect it came from China as well not just down the road. It looks pretty good so far, but not having any luck dumping out anything useful for you. So far the MTKTools works OK, and I can generate the scatter file but can't do anything in SP Tools, it just doesn't seem to be connecting. I'm not sure if I'm missing a step or anything.

Started looking into using ADB, but not sure how to work out which mount point is which, and what I want to dump...

Will keep trying.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION] not having much luck with the GPS yet either... I've tried both the engineering mode and the faster GPS steps, but still can't get a fix. I haven't been very patient though - have only been out for about 3 minutes trying, perhaps it still needs longer than that for the first fix.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
Resolving our China Crisis

[MENTION=3017395]Mitic[/MENTION]hi

Thanks for relaying your experience; it will be interesting so see if either of us gets the GPS to work in the end. The Chinese wholesalers have been very responsive, actually, and I negotiated a small account credit in lieu of the missing functionality... which was a better solution for me than sending the 90% functional watch back to China, waiting for a warranty repair, and then possibly paying import duty on the repaired or replaced item. I've said a little more about it on my blog, but still can't link to the blog post here.
[Other SmartWatches] timtop:
I am sorry wrong post
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION] - I managed to get a backup to work from MTKDroid Tools, is anything in there likely to be helpful? It includes:

- preloader_and_dsp (256KB)

- DSP_BL (1792KB)

and a whole bunch of other things. Can't be sure they are complete, or not corrupt, but let me know if anything could be useful. Still can't get SP Tools to connect for some reason.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
You guys get that backup verified working by Monday and you got yourselves a dev.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I think I have an SP Tools dump as well, but no idea how to tell if anything is complete or correct.... It's a bit over 500MB, uploading at the moment.

Bad news is that I still can't get my GPS working, so I think the watch might be going back soon anyway.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
Great work [MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION], if you want to upload your results and scatter file someplace I'm happy to take a gander.

I had the same problem where you plug in USB and Windows 7 installs the phone driver, then SP Tools would not connect. What I ended up doing was taking the back cover off, unscrewing 4 screws behind the battery and vibrator removing the plastic plate to expose the battery leads, then power off device while still plugged in, click Download, then take a voltmeter to measure the voltage of the battery. Don't unplug the device. This would reset the device and then the MediaTek USB VCOM drivers would load, then SP Tools would start flashing.

If you live dangerously and are trying a different ROM, then you need to load the scatter and Format to these addresses, then you can Download. Beware of brickage.

BTW, I was able to follow the instructions on Zgpax to get voice to text working (search for GAPPS and Voice Search), but that's when I discovered that I had broken audio. Probably need that DSP. Also, you may lose your IMEI so be sure to keep your NVRAM safe.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Not sure if you got my PM, I have uploaded the file but rather not post the link here as I'm not completely sure if there is anything personal in there. Let me know how it looks when you get the chance.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
A working full MTK Tools backup. Did I read that correctly? If so, I may be able to ROM and tweak for you guys after all.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I have no idea!! :) I have created a backup out of both MTK Tools, and a dump from SP Tools, both completed successfully, but whether either are complete or working, I don't have any clue! [MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION] is looking at the SP Tools dump to see if it looks useful.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
I'm looking at the dump, it's a 578715648 byte binary image, and just stringing through it, looks to be a complete dump of your ROM. I haven't tried to restore to my device yet, was thinking I could extract the partitions I'm interested in based on the addresses in your scatter.

I'd be great to have Lokifish take a look at your ROM_1 !
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I'll PM it to Lokifish too.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION] - I got a GPS fix!!!! The only thing I did differently to previous was:

1. Go to /data/misc/

2. Delete mtkgps.dat

3. Reboot

4. Follow instructions from Lokifish / Daniel Ortiz

5. Wait about 20mins in the perfect clear sky (watching the YGPS satellite indications, and finally saw the little bars)

6. Switch to Endomondo run tracker and completely fail to get a fix again!!! :(

So I think it kind of works, but perhaps reception is just that bad that it may not be really usable.
[Other SmartWatches] jimmyec309:
Cable is good and does have a longer end like photo. Works fine and it did come from he UK.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION] [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] - did either of you have any luck with the ROM?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
What all is in the zip. I extracted it an found only one file with no file type associated with it.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
That was the dump that SP Tools generated, and why I couldn't tell you if it had been successful or not as I had no idea what I was looking at!

Shame if it's not...
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
I think it is and thanks [MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION] !!! I hope to get a chance this week to try backing up mine and restore with your image, or parts of it.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Great to hear!! If there's anything else that I've missed or you'd like, just let me know. Looking forward to your results, especially if you can get the voice to text working well.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
YES! I am back to stock thanks to [MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION]!!! Basically from Mtk Droid Tools (v2.5.2) , click the button"To prepare blocks for FlashTool" and select your ROM_1. This cuts up the file into the right pieces and generates a scatter.

Debrickage complete :victory:
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Woohoo! Congratulations [MENTION=697164]rmgold[/MENTION], very happy to hear it. Especially to know that if I screw up something in the future, there's always a way to return to stock!
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Could you zip and upload the "!Files_to_FlashTool" folder someplace. Once I can dl and flash it I'll create an EC-309 folder on my dev-host account and start putting some goodies in the folder as well.
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
EC309

Can i possibly get a copy of the dump too,

I brought one of these recently after reading lontontech's review.

So far mine has worked well but only last's 9-10 hours on standby, with Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS all off.

I have replaced the win 8 launcher with Lightning Launcher eXtreme, and i'm working on adding more watch faces.

Also underclocked mine to 250-500mhz using voltage control, it last an extra 3 hours now on standby and i get an extra 50+mins of use.

I have removed my vibration motor too, And im soon adding in a larger Li-ion battery.

(hopefully 800-900mah as there's extra room without the vibration motor now).

If i can get a working restore i will make a heavily improved OS remake with better processor clock adjusting to save power entered into the init.d, i'll remove win 8 launcher and add Lightning Launcher with an improved skin and layout great for 240x240 res, not willing to do this until i have a working restore tho.

I will post photo's of where i'm at with my OS remake/fix-up soon...
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
Great thanks! Check PM
[Other SmartWatches] homer285:
Awesome specs and nice wearable, sent mine back after 3 days. User Interface is pretty terrible, the included stylus I received with it is the only way to orientate the interface and with 3g on even in standby I got less than 2 hours battery(after 3 cycles). Whilst it is probably the best stand alone on the market it needs serious UI development. My 2 cents.
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
Custom Rom

Ok i have a working restore of the original ROM and a working scatter file.

I have now made a custom ROM,

Changes are....

Removed HOPU watch face lockscreen app,

Removed Windows 8 Launcher,

Removed HOPU update app,

Removed 3D weather,

Added New Boot and shutdown animations.

Added Go Locker to ROM.

Added Lightning Launcher eXtreme to ROM, Made custom 240x240 layout and theme.

Added Voltage Control eXtreme Plus edition to ROM, And made 4 profiles to suit gaming or powersaving needs.

Added Script to init.d folder to underclock cpu (overridden by Voltage control temporarily if profile is changed, reverts to underclocked after reboot)

Added Digital clock widget on home desktop, one that matches GO Locker lockscreen clock.

Added SuperSU.

Added Root Explorer.

Fixed GPS issue, (same fix posted earlier in this thread)

Work In Progress - editing embedded power profiles to improve battery life....
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'm not sure if I can properly maintain a release but I'll try to push out a tuned base stock firmware or tuning script, similar to this, this weekend if you want. I still need to make a tuned stock firmware anyways for Vapirius.

Word of warning on the power profiles. Changing it was the reason I needed a working copy of the firmware in the first place. I adjust the battery mah and got a "stuck at splash screen" as a result.
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
EC309 watch

I made sure i had a working backup before i started any form of modding ..

Some things i've noticed while modding this watch..

1, When i set the brightness below 20 (the androids set lowest value) it causes my screen to flash white a few times when i turn the screen off...

2, Some changes to the embedded power profiles cause random issues/crashes in many apps.

3, init.d folder is ignored during some boots.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Had a backup that got corrupted during a drive swap.

1-haven't touched brightness yet

2-it an MTK thing from what I'm seeing. Have the same issues on the x201 and a couple other MTK devices.

3-Even with the kernel patched and secondary init.d supported added I get the same thing.

I sadly have not had as much time on the 309 as I'd like due to x201 work.
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
EC309 watch

Ok im running into a few brick walls making a simple 1 click install custom ROM....

I can release the custom ROM i have now but it requires a few extra steps in order to get it running after first install...

Biggest issue is "Lightning Launcher" while being a better launcher then the fake win 8 launcher it wont run from the rom :(

Every time i move or install the app directly to the rom it ceases to function properly...

I currently have it installed in the internal storage and this works fine...

I'm working on making a script that installs lightning launcher, the custom theme, and the extra power profiles during first run...

Hopefully if i can get this script working the ROM will be 1 click install..
[Other SmartWatches] ahmed45:
looking forward to it

im comparing the zgpax to the ec309 i cee they are pretty much the same so im trying to install the framaroot.apk just wondering if i brick it is there a way where you can reset factory settings like how fones hold down buttons when turning on..
[Other SmartWatches] Max Powerz:
EC309 watch

Im not sure about the ZGPAX, on the ec309's you hold the back button while pressing power..

(press the 2 side buttons then only release the power, keep holding back)

Word of warning for you tho..

If you brick the watch using an incorrect root then a factory reset may not or most likely wont fix your issue..

If a root fails to the point where it bricks a device you need to reflash the rom with a stock or working custom one..

!!You may want to find a way to make a backup of your current ROM!!

If it's a MT65xx based device then i would suggest using MTKtools and doing a backup that way (this will also ROOT your watch).

I'm not sure how far the LGPAX and EC309 differ from each other (baseband, preloader and things like that) ,,

i wouldn't recommend flashing a LGPAX with an EC309 rom just yet incase it causes permanent bricking..
[Other SmartWatches] ahmed45:
oh thanks for that il look out for that i just thought cos its running the same processor same Rom nand flash and if i wer to experience i could just factory reset and get it going again. if not il just wait for your release hows is that looking i like you home page and every thing else you've done with it great work keep it up.
[Other SmartWatches] ahmed45:
max powerz hi again will we see a rom for ec309 ive been fiddling with mine looking to install acouple of things from a custom rom