[Galaxy S 4 General] Absolon:
Compiling data

I've started to compile the data that I've got in PM's about tripping the Knox and the changes that are REAL, not that a simple flag is tripped.

The press-release is lying. My proof is 30 cm from my keyboard.

But since this starts to be too much I need to start to structure this. We need hard data about what Knox have done.

I can only say what I've seen and what others so far told me but I need more. Much more.

Please, PM me your finding or use this email: 979d9364@opayq.com (Yes, it's masked and if you want to use a masked install MaskMe in your browser)

I'm looking for structure and to get an overview of the changes and the real damage.

I'm also looking for people with some juridical education? Already have two. Gone through law school? Want to discuss?

If you tripped the Knox. What have you noticed has changed or stopped working?

Does it affect your phone all the time? Are there differences between different flashed roms? (Some say they are "Knox-free"). Does that matter?

If you are not rooted and "inside" Knox. What changes have you noticed from earlier versions?

Behavior that you can't explain. Deleted programs. Upgrades that you didn't initiate?

Anything. From subtle things to as for me Wifi that is in syrup, strange errors in Play, sudden removal of programs (that I got confirmed that it does).

This is the only way that we can present hard data about what is happening with our phones.

What would I like to know?

Do a *#1234# and write down the versions.

What version of the phone do you have?

Your location (not street, Country; USA, Germany etc)

Sim-locked? Carrier?

If you have been before and after Knox - differences?

If you have tripped the Knox - differences?

The more data I can compile and try to find common errors/differences the more I will present here, the more I will send, or you. Letting people know.

This whole things start to feel like a bad copy of "Impossible Mission"... Crypted bootloaders, e-fuses, secret code.

I'm Odined my phone again. This is a merry-go-arround, but I will not accept that someone that deliberately destroyed my hardware.

But I'm not giving up. I'm not going to let Samsung get away with destroying my phone.

I also have a theory. We there THE test-group. The leak of version. The tripping of Knox. No info.

I have started to question the warranty in this case here.

No pre-information. No warnings. Even people that started to investigate it tripped the damaging boby-trap.

Someone tripped Knox by Kies if I recall?

So this was a test before the roll out. We where the perfect test subjects. I'm pretty sure of it. And to cripple the users at XDA at the same time. Perfect blow. But for what reason?

Rooting

I have not found a single document that forbids me to gain Administrator rights to my phone. All I have is that I should not change OS. I think they meant

TouchWiz but the OS is Android.

But yesterday I noticed that the document that they have on their net has changed. All of the sudden there are way more rules regarding the software.

I need to dig in my cache to find the original. Anyone has a copy of their PDF on their page with manuals etc? I'm sure most of you downloaded the

"Quick start", "Manual" and maybe the 3rd that I'm looking after and that is the "rules".

The notion that all rooting is for illegal purposes and something negative is something we need to "wash away".

My backup program, Titanium Backup, needs root since it need the ability to pause processes in memory.

And where is the harm? I mean, we are mostly people that just want to have fun with our phones. We don't hurt anyone. A cool rom, customize the look,

explore, learn.

It's so damn innocent. They should be rather happy that this exist, the people that feel joy, curiosity, and in the same time learn things ends in cool ideas,

Like the Pie for instance. Oh look! My Note 3 as one as well. Wonder where they got THAT IDEA? ;)

Maybe you devs should start to smack a GPL on you code? Why should they profit from ideas and then destroy our phones?

As a continuation with my friend and her phone. She had all "Auto updates" turned OFF. She always said NO to upgrades. The phone started to upgrade

itself(!). Not honoring the config. She panicked and removed the battery. Phone dead. Only the "Flashing got bad screen".

Tried to get past it, save the info, custom recovery. No avail. A big sigh. Ok, let's get it working and reinstall it in Kies. That bricked the phone. Hard.

Not even the power button turns on the phone. Kies. Samsung official...

The only thing is that this spreads fast now. She told me, and she meets a lot of people in work etc.

People have started to say "No more Samsung. No more spy phones with electronic bombs or whatever. I'm going for Sony/HTC".

There is research about spreading the word.

If you encounter something positive you will tell about 2-3 people about it.

If you encounter something negative you will tell about 5-6 people about it. (We like to complain)

So this is bad for you, Samsung. I also know you are reading this. Someone slipped with the tongue. Bad eh?

"Look who you step on on your way up because you will meet then all on your way down." ;)

/Absie