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[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Have you held a G2? well I have, as I have a few collegues who have bought it... and nobody even noticed that they have a new phone lol! it does not feel premium at all... looks like a Samsung galaxy s4 clone from the front and the back plate is seriously fugly...

I want a phone that will make people ask me, "what phone is that?" that is the Xperia Z1 effect...
[Xperia Z1 General] gm007:
G2 has a decent camera as phone,its sharp,clean and easy,that's how a camera should be in a phone.

I don't need a camera with 1000 MEGAPIXEL that gives lot of noise and pixels,neither i will print a billboard from it ;)

you are in battery's thread so you care much about your phone's battery ;)

And i am sure the battery in Z1 wont last 1 day of heavy usage.

I replaced my Z with Z1 and use it for 2 days,even my wife didn't noticed that i changed my phone :p

yes Z1 from outside is the best but all you can find inside is crappy screen,camera,overheating,battery and wifi....

Anyway i wont go more off topic,good luck.
[Xperia Z1 General] bibiner:
Thou g2 got more battery due to gram and new battery. Sony still use normal so....g2 should be better but hey.....z1 got acceptable battery + waterproof :p thou I don't own it but I still looking how z1 perform. I don't have easy chance to get new phone. Currently still using my first android phone galaxy s2. Have to choose phone carefully. And yeah G2 here in Langkawi not selling due to no service center.
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
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You want people to ask you what phone you are using? This was my experienced when Im looking for a case or screen protector for G2 most of them doesnt know it exist. Now im buying for Z1 when they saw my phone they know it already.

Not just held mate, I owned a G2 for 10days. I trade my S4 to brandnew G2 and the only reason I switched to Z1 is because the absent of expandable storage.

That was my impression for LG that its plastic and looks cheap. But G2 looks and feel premium and even the window cover really looks elegant than in my s4 sview before.

If you dont owned it you will not appreciate it.

Yes Z1 looks more elegant than G2 because of the materials used, but look I have Z1 now but I have to admit it that G2 is better than our phone.

Performance, battery life, camera and display... Touchscreen is very responsive in G2... Also never had any issue regarding phone temperature even playing Games.

In Z1? Its water resistant :)
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
This thread is not g2 vs z1

This thread only for share your battery results

G2 have power and volume button in back is very big issue for some users

I using z1 it never heat in normal use if you playing games then it goes to 40c

If you compare to g2 battery life to z1 yes it have better battery

G2 don't have expandable memory z1 have as sd card slot

Z1 is waterproof it is big advantage

In performance both phone have same processor and same amount of ram we see the difference because of software

If you play the game you can't see different

both displays have 1080p screens

Every person have own choices in screens personally I don't like over colors in display

In camera I think z1 have better camera after Sony next update

Z1 camera makes noise in photos

G2 camera is also good
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
You are contradicting yourself for saying this thread is not for comparison.. :)

Well I have an experienced for using and owning the G2 so those things I said is based on my experienced and not by just looking at the specs and reading reviews. :)

Well... If you are not aware of it, theres G2 variants with SD slot.

My last reply for G2 and Z1 :)
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Back on topic pls, if you want to compare the G2 v Z1 then make a new thread if one not open.

Thanks :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
the g2 doesnt perfoms as it should in graphics department you can check any where the g2 has low graphics performance..but z1 just flies...the only think the g2 has a plus point is the battery life and it is not that the z1 has terrible batterylife but the g2 ugly looking skin and the overly saturated display and the plastic build doesnt even stands a chance infront of the z1
[Xperia Z1 General] gm007:
If you really care about more storage there is always a solution http://www.meenova.com/ ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] eukaryote:
Not very practical to carry around an adapter when you need access to data on the spot. There is very little excuse for no microSD slot.
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
I make new thread Sony Xperia z1 vs LG G2

Continue the conversation in New thread please stop on this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2480522
[Xperia Z1 General] Shan89:
Sad thing is even HTC one with much smaller battery is doing much better then xz1 , I blame Sony's system optimisation.
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
i used htc one i only got 4 hours of scren time i never got 8 hours of screen time

it is fake
[Xperia Z1 General] ashirokung:
reduce some brightness
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
We have the same battery life.

So Im still satisfied :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Really how are you guys getting so much battery life? I'm on 66% brightness and barely get more 2.5 hours screen time a charge...
[Xperia Z1 General] Shan89:
Lol it's not fake i just happen to have great battery , i could post you at least 5-10 screenshots with similar results .. you most likely had wakelocks which is why you had only 4 hrs ..
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Is there any app that can stop wakelocks? I know there are wakelock detector apps but is there no way to stop them?
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
Lol...

With that capacity i doubt one will get that battey life. except setting your brightness to lowest and turn your screen on all the time without doing anything to make it look good.

Haha

:p
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
LOL um you replaced Z with Z1 of course not many will notice the difference... its still the same Company just upgraded? would you immediately notice the difference between Iphone 4 and 4s? or even 5? LOL

while LG and Samsung are 2 completely different company LOL

and if the Z1 inside is so crappy what are you doing here then? why do you care? lol
[Xperia Z1 General] gm007:
To tell st***d like you to open theirs eyes.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46423711&postcount=246
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
Open our eyes about what?

everyone knows the battery on the g2 is better.. what are you trying to prove?

we chose the z1 because overall its the better phone and every review puts the Z1 above the G2.

Now that you have proven the obvious you have nothing to do here.
[Xperia Z1 General] gm007:
I don't think your father is xda's owner,so i can be where i want and you can skip my posts ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
I think that ur st***d thats why u r coming to the z1 thread and showing ur results to us..and people in ur owns g2 thread are saying that they cannot get even half of what u r getting :P so.pls leave the z1 thread
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
you come in Z1 forum to tell Z1 customers that they are stupid? LOL! boy you are butt hurt and stupid LOL

get a life
[Xperia Z1 General] alfstep:
as long as you know what root means, greenify and cpu control will do the trick LOL
[Xperia Z1 General] bibiner:
GUYS! PLEASE! Be nice. This is a thread about Z1 battery and stop argue about Z1 and lg g2. Both have it own unique characteristic. Like lgg2 have good battery than z1 yes. But throwing z1.and lgg2 into water. Lg g2 die. Each have own special characteristic.
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Advice/help please!

Hey guys,

So I've had my phone for about 4 days now, and while I love the look and feel of the phone, I'm having alot trouble with the battery.

After only being unplugged for almost 6 hours, it had gone down to 56%. I don't have Location/GPS on, Wi-Fi is off, only one email sync. I used it for some facebook, a bit of browsing on forums, and some text messages, no heavy usage. No video playback and barely any picture taking.

I really wish I could get the battery life you guys are getting, 5-6 hrs of on screen time while actually using the phone. I was able to eek out 3 hrs and 50 mins by the end of the day, but that's with really not doing much at all.

Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated. I need to decide soon whether or not to keep the phone or return it.

Please let me know, thank you!
[Xperia Z1 General] gibbo82:
Let's just hope a future update makes the battery last longer. Wi-Fi battery is great, but when on 3g the battery drains like no tomorrow, but that is expected
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
I find that, but I also find that when having low signal. Hopefully an update helps the battery.
[Xperia Z1 General] nvphuong:
My battery drop down from 78% to 36% after restart

I don't know reason:(

Have any one know why?
[Xperia Z1 General] slo2lah:
Mine.
[Xperia Z1 General] MafiaManV:
Don't worry about it. Same thing happens with XZ. Your battery is fine
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Sounds like a software glitch, it shouldn't do that, mine doesn't. I'd say battery calibration issue, so possibly a reflash is needed.
[Xperia Z1 General] Shan89:
Wakelock detector is only there to tell you what wskelocks you have , for stopping them greenify is the best but needs root , another work around would be disabling apps but that's probably not an option for most of you , 2nd thing would be battery guru but guru would mainly help with social network apps which are usually the ones responsible for the wakelocks so guru is something like greenify just make sure you learn it well and set it to literally stops all syncs untill you do it manually or according to your usage.

Best thing would be custom bloat free rom with greenify , Sony has way too many apps pre installed.

Nope I'm actually using average 35/50% indoor and outside usually 80% unless it's very sunny , with 100% brightness I get average 4:30 from 100/1% on battery , anyway I'm rooted and cleaned the rom, the rom I use is cleaned for about 60% so it's literally light version of the rom , some Xposed mods for stopping some apps and that's pretty much it , sense 5.5 is really very well optimised ...and no I don't leave the phone to stay on lol ...that'd be stupid .. Anyway I believe the main issue with z1 is the Sony software that needs tweaking , z1 should minimum achieve 6/7 hrs with heavy usage with proper software , I'm betting if there was a way for you guys to have sense your battery would be better , even s4 with smaller battery but same screen has better battery ...that clearly tells you it's either software or screen is too much power hungry.
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
I used S4 before and my friend used htc one its very unlikely to get that battery life you posted, hes also a flasher and still my s4 is far better. I used G2 for less than 2 weeks and i can say that its better battery life than s4 and z1.

So if you want to make htc one look good in battery life, then its your choice :thumbup:
[Xperia Z1 General] ckyy:
If this is the same exact issue the Z had, good luck then. A reflash will most likely do nothing but waste his time. Only an official update by sony was able to get rid of this issue on the Z. Took them about a month or 2 for the update.
[Xperia Z1 General] reignzy:
I get 10 hours of net time from 85%, root, maximum clock speed, stamina mode enabled, display at minimum, I reckon it's pretty good, don't know why you guys complain....

Could probably get more time if I underclock it
[Xperia Z1 General] xperiax10.awesome:
Battery Life

I am currently using everything stock and m a heavy user - able to get average of 5 hours on-screen time (LTE, brightness around 40-50%)
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
Couldn't be happier with the battery life, standby time is excellent and screen time is pretty good
[Xperia Z1 General] Shan89:
Huh you're just stubborn you clearly fail to see where I wrote that my phone is highly customised I even forgot our kernels which are highly advanced , the kernels you'll never get to see on Sony / LG devices not even on Samsung devices anyway I don't care if you believe me or not I just shared my battery life it's up to you will you accept it or not. Here few more just for you. Last one is from right now , take a look at my app usage you can clearly see how much I use my phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
Shouldn't you be posting this on the HTC forums or did you fail to read the tittle?
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
Lol... I also used customized roms and kernels, flash everything that can improve my phone. It somehow saves battery and I know it. so dont tell me you are using customized roms and kernels because Im not new to this. :p

I also stated in my post that my friend used htc one and hes into flashing so I know he will do anything that will improve hes one bat life and performance.

I really liked HTC one, in fact thats my first choice but unfortunately those HTC one available here before have built issue and only silver are available. So I decided to get S4 that time.

You dont have to prove anything though... ;)

Cheers...
[Xperia Z1 General] Johann_London:
Hey I've had my phone for three weeks now and this is what I have done to get substantially more battery performance.

All my life I staunchly believed every phone or tablet I owned needed to be on its fullest brightness in order to enjoy it at its best.

But having the phone on full brightness chomps through battery at the speed of light.

On full battery and when plugged into the wall charger and while using my phone it simply wouldn't charge. The power would just stay still and if I had just one too many things running at the same time I would get a warning that my battery was not charging and the I was consuming power faster than it could store it.

I then took the painful decision to turn my screen to 80% and it immediately solved the problem. It took a couple of days to get used to the dimmer display but you do get used to it.

It now charges well even if I'm using it and it runs the whole day on fairly heavy use.

Dont worry about turning other aspects of the phone off.

Look at your battery performance indicator and you will see 80% of battery power is spent on the screen with only around 3% on Android system and 2% on Google Now ... So reducing screen brightness had the most dramatic effect for me.

Apparently the upcoming firmware update further will help economise on battery power.
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Thanks for your response. I'm surprised you are able to use your phone at 80%, that would be heaven for me. My screen is set all the way down at like 20%, sometimes even 0%, yet the battery still drains like hell. (and usage still shows its using 65% battery power when brightness is all the way down)
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Battery draining

Hey guys, so I updated the firmware and the battery life improved ever so slightly, but is still quite bad compared to what you guys are posting up.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong! :mad:

Here are the list of things I do and don't do.

- I keep GPS Location OFF.

- Bluetooth is NEVER on.

- NFC is NEVER on.

- Screen Brightness is not on auto. I keep it at around 20%, sometimes 0%! (How is it still taking 64% of battery usage!?)

- Wi-Fi is off unless I have horrible signal

- I'm basically minimizing everything I can to save energy.

I'm attaching my usage screenshots for the day. Today I only used it lightly, some browsing on Dolphin, Facebook, texted a bit, and played maybe a total of fifteen minutes of games.

I'm seeing other posts of 6 hrs screen time and I'm wondering how I can achieve that. The battery life is the only thing that's really pushing me over the edge to return it! Only 4 hrs of light usage screen time is not acceptable for a phone of this caliber.

Is there anything else I can do? Please help! If I'm going to return it, I have to do it soon before they charge higher restocking fee :(
[Xperia Z1 General] simonwela:
Exactly the same here! But I can still just get 3-4 hours of screen time when just web browsing in Dolphin or Boat browser. I -always- use 0% screen brightness too.. And standby-time like 16h, when almost not using the phone at all. =/ Nothing running in the background and I have close to 1 GB RAM free.
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
This is my battery stats.

I noticed everyday that it keeps on improving the battery life. my z1 is 10 days old only.

In my first week my screen time on was about 4 to 5 hours... Then followed by 5hours and 30minutes... After that last stats, I drained my battery then fully charged it to 100 then delete battery stats.

As you can see my wifi was on all the time.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
If you have root try greenify, I feel that it has slightly improved my screen and standby time
[Xperia Z1 General] simonwela:
How :(

Haven't rooted my device yet, but maybe I will, and if I do I will check out greenify, thanks for the tip.
[Xperia Z1 General] [Fenix]:
I got yesterday my Xperia Z1 and at night made the first charging cycle ... now do i have to discharge it and completely redo a new cycle? What do you recommend?

Thanks in advance :)

Inviato dal mio C6903 con Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
Everytime I have a new phone I always drain the factory charge to empty then straight charge to 100%.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
I never let my battery drain to15% or less, with all my phones and I always get great battery life
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Are you using stock firmware/everything or did you root? I wish I could get 6 hrs >.> the most I've got is 4.
[Xperia Z1 General] marc_ecko28:
All stock .534 but rooted.

I never modify anything yet.

I was monitoring the battery life since day 1 and I can see great improvements. Im excited to flash the new firmware update but rooting is not clear yet.

I never turned off my wifi and my brightness is set to around 40% only.

Sent from my C6903
[Xperia Z1 General] sveintore:
I have found that battery guru seems to work way better than stamina.
[Xperia Z1 General] ajftl:
My battery life. Hmmmm. It's been decreasing lately now that I'm getting older. use to be better when I was a teenager.
[Xperia Z1 General] binhk88:
I used both of apps. Do you use only one of them?

---------- Post added at 09:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:45 AM ----------

Anyone tried play Clash of Clans on Z1? How about screen on?
[Xperia Z1 General] sveintore:
Yeah, when I turn on stamina with battery guru running, stamina predicts worse battery life.

Edit: Just checked again, now suddenly it predicts more. I don't get this at all :p
[Xperia Z1 General] Sheon849:
LMFAO ^
[Xperia Z1 General] aridoasis:
I just got mine last night and so fast so good...
[Xperia Z1 General] ahomad:
you probably need to calibrate your battery. See the white line in the third picture where the battery level just dropped, this where the phone realized that there are missing ~10% battery which means that the phone doesn't know how much battery is there. So it is telling you your phone is full (%100) while its lets say %80, thats why you get less battery life than others.

This is pure speculation, I might be wrong, but look in the form on how to calibrate the battery and see if this improve it for you.
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
so your screen was 64% odds which means you have a lot of stuff not showing on that screenshot if you scroll down accounting for another 25% odd that we cannot see that is also using battery, 25% is going to add about another 2hrs, weird thing is that people install other utility SW like battery managers and task killers in an effort to extend battery life when in fact they have the opposite effect, also things like live wallpapers will eat battery

I'd be very interested in what is on that usage profile if you scroll down, in everyday usage I normally have about 5-7 items using up battery - my guess is you have a lot more, I would start by uninstalling stuff that you don't really need - I could be wrong but that's how it looks to me

just looked again and although my above post needs editing - you get the idea
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Thank you very much for your reply. However, I wish I had more processes going on so then I can just cancel them and all would be great. I only had three or four more things showing if I scrolled down, each one at a low %. I'll attach another picture showing you the processes on my current charge.

It was unplugged for less than five hours, and it dropped to 59%... that's really unacceptable. I played "Swing shot" for maybe 15 minutes.

I desperately need help with this! Thanks!
[Xperia Z1 General] aamirkhan703:
Nice...
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
games will kill your battery fast - even 2hrs, some things just need to be on the mains and gaming is one of them, in fact even on the charger you will find the battery still very slowly discharges as it can't keep up with the demand - all hi-end smartphones are the same - on my XZ I could kill the battery in less than 2hrs playing hi-end games - you should be getting at least 6+hrs of screen time under normal use, several charge recycles will improve the battery
[Xperia Z1 General] quoler:
Envoyé depuis mon C6903 avec Tapatalk
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
I'm not playing anywhere close to 2 hours... I said I played for 15 minutes. Also, swing shot is really not gaming intense graphically. I don't know why my battery is dropping so quickly. I've never achieved over 4 hrs of screen time, I've had the phone for over a week now.
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
how long have you been on screen and what is your brightness level? I also think are definitely some wake locks on your phone... you need to find out what is causing the phone not to go into deep sleep...
[Xperia Z1 General] nycdoody:
Can anyone tell me what these mean? I downloaded a wakelock detector and had it running to see what is going on.

"com.sonyericsson.android..." seems to be coming up much more than others.

Only 4 hrs 41 mins unplugged, 1 hr 30 of screen time (of very light usage), and it went down to 60%. It's draining wayyy too fast.
[Xperia Z1 General] ashirokung:
after 2days on .257 leak firmware, look like my battery litter better (40-60minute screen on longer than old .534)

....praying for 4.3 and 4.4 update ^^"
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
I understand that and what you are seeing is abnormal as far as I can tell

at this point you have 2 options - return your phone or do an update repair, if you do the latter do not install any apps and give the phone a good test as stock for a day or two and if it is ok then you know it is something you have installed - there is no other way to solve this
[Xperia Z1 General] funky0308:
Today :

One day of "normal" usage.

Little bit of everything ;)

Stock 534 firmware and yesterday battery stats deleted (battery calibration)

I'm totally satisfied with Z1 - awesome device with great camera.

I know this isn't a place to post photos but I just need to post evidence to all "unbelievers" ;)

Original photo:

https://app.box.com/s/syju8jpje60z8vba3gcv
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
How much screen time did u have?
[Xperia Z1 General] funky0308:
4.08h
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
I never get that much screen time... What brightness are you using? I'm usually on 60-75%.....
[Xperia Z1 General] funky0308:
Aaarrr...

I pressed tnx accidently.

This is my screen but it was brighter for....let's say half of that time... ;)

After I deleted battery stats and discharged to 10% then fully charge again - I'm very satisfied with battery.

Just check screenshot, I still have 26% ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Ok can you tell me your whole procedure for this? What do you mean by deleted battery stats etc?