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[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
I just blew these up from different sources. The displays could have been on different brightness levels, the display settings could have been different (EG: Adapt Display, Auto Adjust Screen Tone), or there could have just been variances between displays which can happen even on identical devices. There's a 69 page thread on the One forum talking about displays on the One coming from different vendors and discussing different calibrations from display-to-display even when sourced from the same vendor. The only thing to focus on from what I posted is sharpness. And the One, SGS4, and N3 are all suitably sharp on text. An LCD display may have other advantages due to its backlight and how white is created but from a sharpness perspective, at least in my opinion, PenTile no longer needs to be embarrassed.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] autophone:
it seems like galaxy devices degrade in performance over time. I have two GN2 and two GS3 in my family. the first GN2 is my sister's and it gets laggy over time. my dad's GN2 is barely used without many apps installed and it still performs like champion. the same is for the my mom's GS3 which is quite new and still performs good, on the other hand my other sister's GS3 lags so much after 6 months. I am using HTC One X and have installed and uninstalled hundreds of apps and performance is quite comparable with after a factory reset. now after it's been updated to sense 5 it's even better with no lag even with many apps installed. i don't have a problem multitasking with only 1GB of ram
[Galaxy Note 3 General] arabbitte:
No FM Radio

Assuming the conclusions in this thread are correct (link) - and I would really prefer if they were not - then no FM radio = no Note 3 for me :crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bkeaver:
you base whether or not to get a device on if it has FM radio:confused: interesting especially in this day and age of Iheart radio, Pandora, google music, and so on.. i guess to each their own..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
Tired of reading this crap FM radio logic....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bekyndnunwind:
1995 called :P

Just kidding...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
Do you all have big hands? ;)

I like the S4 since prefer one hand operation for calls and texts, so the S4 is my size threshold. The "gamer" and video media fan in me would prefer the Note 3, but the main function for me is the phone and text part and the other stuff is fun secondary stuff. Very close second, but still second. That said, I wish the S4 had the S800 in it :)

As far an an FM radio, an actual radio chip is a better option than the radio apps, since FM radio uses less power and does not need a data connection- not to mention some local radio stations are not part of streaming services. Having the function would be a nice bonus, but not a litmus for getting a device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] astrologos:
I will not, despite i was going to. And the reason is KNOX, because i want to control my phone as i want.

You don't know what is KNOX and it's side-effects?

Then you better find out...

Read some below

Conclusions and Facts about KNOX-enabled firmwares (based on statements from chainfires post and it's comments above, ans based on this thread)

* Not possible to downgrade to KNOX-disabled firmwares/bootloaders (An attempt sets 0x1) (even though some people state, downgrade is possible when omitting the bootloader file in a firmware package: see http://forum.xda-developer....php?t=2444671, not confirmed)

* Even if you flash a KNOX-enabled firmware via odin (e.g. the latest fw) knox will be set to 0x1

* Flashing unsigned or modified images via odin will set knox to 0x1

* Samsung stated, resetting the flag is impossible

* KNOX is mandatory and can not be completely removed

* Warranty Void is no counter, it is a flag (0,1) it was never seen 0x2 or so

* Mirroring all partitions from a clean 0x0-Device to a 0x1-Device via JTAG produces an unfunctional device (reversible by restoring the 0x1 partitions on the phone)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sactownsav:
Exact same situation. Wife says no. Pushing for a xmas gift possibly but then what about the xbox one?.....hmnm...... at least Ill have my note 3 either way
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jass4752:
Thanks for the info
[Galaxy Note 3 General] starrscream22:
Just curious, do both you and your wife work? Who is the primary breadwinner?

Does your wife make all the decisions in the relationship? If you are going to use your own money for a potential purchase, why would you let someone else make the decision for you, and then cave?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
I am no display expert, but that photo suggests to me that the N3 colors will be shifted toward green, since there are many more green subpixels than red or blue.

It's called "marriage"
[Galaxy Note 3 General] starrscream22:
No, marriage has a different definition. This is called caving and folding to the woman...big time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sactownsav:
Of course I could "just go buy it".

BUT almost 12 years of being married I have learned a few things, and one of those is a happy wife = a happy life. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Let me make a WILD guess :::

You never been married .... :laugh: :laugh:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] starrscream22:
Hehe, I guess. I'm just saying If I wanted a phone and I was paying for it, I would buy it no matter what anyone said.

The money that saved by not buying the phone, will probably be spent elsewhere, and is that exchange what you want?

Not judging or anything like that, I guess we're all anxiously waiting for Gnote 3 to release so we are finding ways to use up time lol

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Hehe, I guess. I'm just saying If I wanted a phone and I was paying for it, I would buy it no matter what anyone said.

Not judging or anything like that, I guess we're all anxiously waiting for Gnote 3 to release so we are finding ways to use up time lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
I am no expert either, but did you notice the much smaller size of those sub-pixels ?

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] starrscream22:
Lol No I haven't. I guess I got a little carried away lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
Yes I did. And just eyeballing it, seems the green still occupies more area than either red or blue. But maybe that is because the green is brighter and stands out more.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Any display, AMOLED or LCD, PenTile or RGB, all use s/w and current to create millions of colors as called for by the content they are displaying. The only reason Samsung's newer design re-sized the sub-pixels is because red, green, and blue output at different levels. The sizing's always been there but I guess technology advances have allowed it to be even more refined.

This is from the Nexus One...

From Wiki...

PenTile RGBG layout used in AMOLED displays uses green pixels interleaved with alternating red and blue pixels. The human eye is most sensitive to green, especially for high resolution luminance information. The green subpixels are mapped to input pixels on a one to one basis. The red and blue subpixels are subsampled, reconstructing the chroma signal at a lower resolution. The luminance signal is processed using adaptive subpixel rendering filters to optimize reconstruction of high spatial frequencies from the input image, wherein the green subpixels provides the majority of the reconstruction. The red and blue subpixels are capable of reconstructing the horizontal and vertical spatial frequencies, but not the highest of the diagonal. Diagonal high spatial frequency information in the red and blue channels of the input image are transferred to the green subpixels for image reconstruction. Thus the RG-BG scheme creates a color display with one third fewer subpixels than a traditional RGB-RGB scheme but with the same measured luminance display resolution.​
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
Thanks...I guess. I got a headache reading that lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
I suppose I could go back to my SE P800 smartphone which has a stylus, first lauched in 2003 :) No need to upgrade ever. But if you want to and you can afford to upgrade why not?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lm_um:
That's great
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
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Ok let's narrow it down....

Reasons not to upgrade ( at least not right now):

1) GNote2

2) You are waiting to see how the GNote3 is going to walk the walk

3) The Knox security thing

4) You are broke

5) Wife

6) You are a troll

:cyclops:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] RyanNL:
from a productivity point of view...

I'm still on my Note1, rooted and rommed.

I don't play games on my phone and my main uses are office apps,note taking, emailing, FB reading and ebook/epub reading. For me the biggest selling point of the note series is the fact it has a stylus and i can use it as a notepad without having to drag extra stuff around: it all fits in my pockets.I just walk into the office with all, documents, notepads and whatever tools in my pockets. Just in case your wondering: I think a notepad is mandatory for a consultant

In my current config it works fast enough for my taste. The only issues i have are battery life; some instability (my own fault for using beta roms) and I want a bigger screen, preferably 6 inch. and I'd like to have an infrared blaster. Most of all i need a stylus..

And.... i want a big screen that uses minimal power when i'm reading ebooks (which i always do in nightmode, so mostly gray letters on completely black screen)

Was planning to get Z Ultra but then Sony made some stupid decisions (no LED flash, no IR, small battery, big bezel, no stylus)

Next one to consider is the Alcatel Hero with e-ink cover and a stylus, but that has a unknown cpu (probably mediatek a7 quadcore) and a questionable reputation

HTC one Max: no stylus, and probably no micro sd card

Even considered Lumia 1520: but no stylus and too many unknowns and release date pushed back. Oh yeah: and no swype/ swiftkey-slide kind of functionality

So having considered everything above, the nerd in me is aching for a new toy after two years of the same phone and nothing else fits the bill. The only box the note 3 doesn't check is the 6"+ screen. So i have enough reasons not to buy it including the biggest one, not mentioned: the ridiculous high price but i might end up getting it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sublimaze:
If your top priorities are a stylus and taking notes quickly, then the Note is the only game in town. None of the other devices you listed will give you the flexibility & productivity of a Note. The Note 3 will definitely be a worthy upgrade from the original Note.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rukin1:
Sprint phone won't be a tri-band OR even a DUAL band phone. i was going to get it if it was either. But it's not :/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] erwinyap69@gmail.com:
Wow you guys...really there's way too much thought into this... Lmao...

1. Newer/newest Tech is Always better

2. If you're as much of a Tech Junkie as I am you'll always try to get the latest item cause its your thing... Just like collecting stamps, coins etc.... To a person who's into coins, they wouldn't think twice about getting a coin from the 1800's and pay top dollar while someone like me would think you gotta be crazy to do that as I'm dumping $800 on the Note 3 when my phones in perfect working order..

3. If you want it get it.. If you can't afford it then wait till your contracts up....

4. Most or all of my phones are rooted and rommed and usually calls for better performance.... It's not that the phones slow.. It's about how far can you push it cause you can! (@ least it is for me lol)

5. Do we really need more than 8gHz of processing power? No.... But if it's available I'll get it just to push it even more.... Just cause I can... Lol.....

I'm a Freak or Geek or a Tech Whore... Actually also heard of a "Flagship Jumper"... Ha ha that's me too....

You do what's comfortable and accessible for your resources and hope for the best.........
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RyanNL:
My main dilemma is not about which other device to get but the big question is if i really need to get something new. As i said the performance of my note 1 on CM is fast enought for me.....

but this might be a a contender when it comes to phablets with a stylus

http://www.slashgear.com/alcatel-on...tylus-e-ink-case-and-pico-projector-04295967/

One of the questions is if it will be able to keep me happy for two years especially if it has weak cpu. And there is a quote somewhere that it will be priced in the high end segment....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] erwinyap69@gmail.com:
Read my post above yours.... Lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
The smartphone business is a fool's game. Motorola got bought by Google. Nokia got bought by MS. BB put themselves up for sale and no one wants to buy them. HTC's going to get bought by someone.

Sony and LG both sold about +/-11M smartphones last quarter; that's +/-44M a year. Samsung's going to sell 60M SGS4's alone this year and an overall total of 250+M mobile devices. TCL, the parent company of ALCATEL, has a market capitalization of $774M USD and they are in a ton of different business outside mobile that generate their revenue. If stalwart brands and pioneers are struggling and disappearing what chance does a small (by smartphone industry standards) company like TCL have of being successful long term?

Who knows? Maybe Chinese companies like ALCATEL, Huawei, Oppo, and Xiaomi and Indian companies like Micromax may end up ruling the world and putting Samsung and Apple out of business. Should that happen I'll consider their products. Until then the only sure bets in the smartphone game are Samsung, Motorola, Sony, and LG. Motorola's got bucket loads of Google's cash at their disposal and is spending $500M (2/3 of TCL's overall worth) launching the Moto X. Sony and LG are both big diversified companies with other revenue sources that can supplement their mobile businesses when necessary. As HTC’s proven having a fantastic product (the One) can’t save you when you don’t have the scale to compete on marketing, promotion, and distribution when your competitors have deep pockets.

It's one thing to look at pretty pictures and sexy features and another thing to be dependent on one of these upstart companies for support and s/w updates; especially when their own longevity is a question mark. You guys buy a ALCATEL phone first and tell me how it goes. ;)

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No offense to Sprint fans but that sounds more like a reason not to be on Sprint than it does not to buy a N3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Stolly08:
I was wondering if someone would get that!!! Bahaha thanks for the pic BTW!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rukin1:
How so? Sprint's network is improving day by day. Last year this time, We had horrible speeds and no 4G. Now 4G is everywhere around me and with Sprints 800SMR being launched here. Indoor service has increased alot and whne 4G 800 launches. The coverage will be even greater. So Believe me, sometimes in the middle of 2014 or the end. It'll be up there along with Verizon. It's sad to see so many people say verizon is good. There coverage is good, but there speeds/network are bogged down to crap.

I hope you're falling sprint on there network vision. Network vision 1.0 is nearly done, NV 2.0 Started Next month :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Currentweb:
I'm upgrading from the Note 2 to the Note 3 for really only three reasons:

1. I'm not really into consumerism throughout the year; the only big purchases I make are phones and computers so money isn't a problem

2. I'm a designer and I use the spen all the time, and some of the 3's spen improvements peek my interest

3. The Note 2 only has 8gb of internal storage, which is a struggle

I'm hoping the bootloader will be defeated eventually, but honestly a rooted stock rom will satisfy me until that happens. With these kinds of specs, custom roms become less necessary.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ParrotSquawk:
iSheep... Bwaahahahaha... iHipsters ???

The GN2 came out 6 months after i got my GN1. I never went for that upgrade. I too am Gen Skipping, going from GN1 to GN3, gaining all that memory and processing power and multi-window capability. Those are the only reasons that I am upgrading. My GN1 is still adequate to the tasks I put to it. I may move my mom from her iPhone 3 to it as she likes the large screen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I'm making the move futon the Note 2 to the Note 3 because I believe with the additional upgrades it'll allow me to do more worth my coaching job. I use a iPhone 5as my daily driver, but moving to either the Moto X or LG G2 as my daily driver.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rocheau:
I was about to buy the GN3, but now I have decided to wait before buying GN3. I am happy with my GN1 and have almost all feature the GN2 has thanks to the ROM developers. So I do not miss anything, and also I consider it fast enough for my day to day usage. About the battery issues is something normal or at least, common, after the first year, but insofar as you can buy a new one you will have almost a new mobile in terms of battery duration.

However the main points to me to wait are the following two reasons:

1) The lack of a FM RADIO. I do not use it too much, but as many other features the phone has, like camera flash. But in those moments when you want to make use of it, I like to have the opportunity, at least. Today at Bernabeu Stadium while I was watching the soccer match I make use of the FM RADIO to listen some commentaries about the match . So why I have to lose some features? Upgrade or downgrade?

2) For me the main reason: The Knox security concerns to me very much. I want to be able to install any new ROM I want, even taking the control of everything is happening with my mobile. So, if I had to lose my warranty I would not be very happy, so I just prefer to wait until this thing, the Know Security issue will be solved completely.

It seems to me that Samsung is taking the same way that Apple took before. I prefer to be free. I am just buying a phone but I am not planning to get married with a brand.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DMax99:
The rumour of flexible screen! ;(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
Oooh I've got a good one! Here's a reason:

Those times when you are laying on your back and the note slips out of your hands slams into your face right before you fall asleep. Then you are wide awake and cursing and clutching your face because you just ate the equivalent of a small brick. :P

edit*

And then the next morning you are tearing up your bed and floor because you didn't realize the stylus popped out when it bounced off your dense head.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DMax99:
Lol, funny.

Ps. Don't think the pen comes out that easily at all
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
yeah it didn't when it bounced off my face. It popped out almost every time its gone for a tumble at the gym though. Lots off rebound on that rubbery floor. Could be i just wore down whatever mechanism the silo used to secure the pen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Hardcore73:
Hilarious!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Stolly08:
That is funny and true that would hurt! My GS3 practically gives me a bloody lip every once and a while lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bastardtrees:
honestly in order to never buy another smartphone again (700$+) for me grandfathered LTE with verizon

I plan on picking up a windows 8.1" 8.1 tablet for 199-299$ in the near future and just stick it in my other pocket in tandem with my rooted/unlocked/rommed note 2 and use it as a 4G tethering device while enjoying a bigger screen and a desktop OS.

be it note 3 or note 4,5,6 or 7. I don't think the display will get to be 8 inches in length.

thats how i plan to go about it to save money in the long run.

so thats my reason for not dropping 700$+ for a note 3 even though i want to.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Dral29:
Basically you only need a phone for calling, texting... everything else is just a waste of time.

Browsing can be included perhabs for business people and perhabs a camera for capturing a moment that you would like to remember. That is it.

Now, if you enjoy having fresh products, then "voila" your reason for upgrading.

People think differently these days.

Thanks for sharing your thoughs!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kumabjorn:
Actually, that is one of the better reasons to upgrade, the new Note is lighter and hold the stylus better, so your head bumps won't be so severe and the stylus will still be secured in that dark cave all styli crave to return to.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bruce lee roy:
Great comparison video-Comparing note 2 and note 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vVjzmk-mw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bilhouse:
Is this the same Bruce Lee Roy of teh GAF?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RASTANIUS:
SIM Region Lock

Till yesterday afternoon I´d two pre-orders for my N3 and was looking forward to get it soon ..... from one of the two retailers.

Then this unbelievable restriction with the SIM Lock had been reported by some "Early Adopters" - ad hoc cancelled my orders !

FM missing, KNOX and now SIM Region-Lock is ABSOLUTELY a NoGo !!

Poor Sammy , what do you think - your customers are all idiots ??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RyanNL:
Agree, was just considdering going out to a shop and have some hands-on time but realyhave to think about this
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Bruce lee roy:
Yeah both are pretty disappointing to me. Love to root my phones and part of the reason I switched carriers was to be able to use my phone overseas without hastle.

haha no this is the Bruce Leroy as in the Last Dragon w/ Sho Nuff.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] unlockingsky:
I am upgrading from Samsung skyrocket. The father of note and dual core android phone. ;)

Going to note 3 is a big leap. Well not so big since I change roms every 2 or 4 months.:D

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It's only a matter of time. Knox is getting a year old soon.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] muqali:
Minus the FM thing, KNOX and the SIM lock are complete **** treatment of their customers. Maybe Europe with their more consumer friendly laws will sue the balls off of Samsung for this.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kumabjorn:
Yep, that is beyond stupid. I cancelled too. SIM region locked? What kind of world do these stupid idiots think we live in? Have they recruited a new marketing head from Pyongyang?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
It hasn't been determined yet whether the region lock is meant to prevent grey market sales or does in fact permanently lock the device to a single region. Samsung Switzerland put out a statement on FB that more or less says that the device has to connect via a SIM from its assigned region first then would be able to use SIMs from other regions thereafter. Samsung Germany issued a statement that (sort of) says the same thing. Samsung's always been tough on gray market sales so requiring a device be used initially with a SIM from the region it was purchased in kind of makes sense. If they do lock all N3's to just the regions they were sold in that's a pretty suicidal move on Samsung's part. The press is all over this so I’d expect clarification from Samsung Global in a day or two.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kumabjorn:
So if an American pick up a Note 3 while on a trip to Europe, where it is released earlier, he won't be able to use it unless he buys it under a European plan? Sounds boneheaded to me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
A SIM from a PayG plan (like AT&T's GoPhone) should suffice.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] harosxcomp170:
Check out my custom Note 3! Whoops I meant Galaxy S3! Still waiting for my pre-ordered Black Note 3 from Verizon!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] grifter9931:
So basically,

All that was done was to ensure people purchased the phones from within their particular region and didn't "cutsees in line" everyone else?? And they were then free to replace any sim they wanted so long as they registered with the region of origin sim?