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[Galaxy Note 3 General] James1463:
I have a galaxy S 2. I'm loving this upcoming upgrade for myself.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Despyse:
I don't know what everyone's layout/plan is, but I have 2 smartphones and 2 feature phones (both of which don't use upgrades). So I can get an upgrade every year at subsidy pricing. So every year I upgrade and sell the old to neutralize the cost of it (some cases making money). Waiting would cause the old phone to depreciate too much and make upgrading more expensive. So I don't really upgrade based on features, more to continue advancing with little to no cost (or rebate).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lojak29:
Fact of the matter is if History repeats itself like it always does

People will buy it or upgrade to N3 anyways even the ones here saying skip it.

Its not the ram cam... or CPU its the ir blaster that's a big selling point I believe.

I think the lg g2 is more appealing as crazy and that sounds .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
I have the note 2 and plan to get the N3 as long as the bootloader is not locked or if it is wait to see if it can be cracked.

Why would I buy it since I have the N2 (and an s3 & s4) you ask? Simple answer is because I can, and I dont say that in arrogant way..its just not a big deal to me to buy a few devices per year.i may pick up the nexus 5 as well..who knows lol.

The 2 things ( and they are minor) I dislike are cosmetic. The back cover is awful and I dont like how the spen just sticks out. On the note 2 its curved and blends in with the back...it looks sleek.

Other than that all good.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Evil_4Genius:
+1 to that.

I say that skipping a generation is a great and very economical idea, save your money plus really see the difference when you do upgrade.

However, If you have the money and do not need to justify the upgrade, then I'M right there with you. The Note series is just perfect for me, from music, movies, drawing, photoshoping, roms and games. There is no question that I will be getting the N3 and the N4 the N5....... and so on.

Thanks to the OP for posting. It is always nice to see both sides.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ARTAQaf:
i also have a Gnote and i didn't get a Gnote2 because i reasoned the same as the OP ... not much of a difference.

now the Gnote to the Gnote3 will be a HUGE upgrade :cowboy: this phone looks sick :highfive:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] clninja:
Meh.. I have a 2 month old HTC one and will be selling it to get the note 3

Love my HTC one .. but

- i want the bigger screen

- I want the s pen

- I love the design of the note 3

- I get bored easily with phones

- I got my HTC one free cause I work for a carrier.

- Samsung phone hold there value better than HTC phones

- I fear support dropping off for HTC since they are struggling as a company

- I upgrade as often as possible so that my previous device hasn't depreciated much and it's cheaper to upgrade.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cdmoore74:
I love my Note 2 but I upgrade every year. Before that I had a Verizon Nexus; 2 completely different devices so you really notice the improvement right away. But this year I don't feel as excited about going from a Note 2 to a Note 3 especially after buying a Note 10.1 a month ago. I picked up a LG G2 on Sunday and I find it very nice. Smaller but just as powerful as a Note 3. After carrying the Note 2 around since launch day going back to a smaller phone feels nice. And if you think about it there is only 0.1" difference between the 5.2" G2 vs the original Note 5.3" display. So your not giving up tons in screen size but it feels more comfortable. You do however give up the S-Pen.

I've only had 1 day with the G2 but there's not many options. Sure I can get the HTC One for $49 or the S4 for $100 but those phones are reaching their mid life crisis. The phone I really want is the Nexus 5 but not sure if I can give up my reliable service for prepaid.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mi7chy:
Having owned several Exynos (fabbed by Samsung) based devices including the Note II I appreciate the stability where it's rare or non-existent to experience a random reboot, app suddenly exiting, etc. Can't say the same for my devices based on Qualcomm fabbed by TSMC. If Snapdragon is the only US option then I'll probably skip Note III, wait for Note IV and hope for return of Exynos. A fast unstable device is useless to me like the Snapdragon based Nexus 7 (2013) that I'm experiencing overheating instablity issues with.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cdmoore74:
Going from an HTC One or even a S4 is understandable. It's the people that already have Note 2. Especially since the Note 2 has a unlocked bootloader right now. There should be customs roms based on the Note 3 ported over to the Note 2 pretty soon I'd imagine.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kumabjorn:
I have the original Note and reasoned that I'd skip a generation so the Note 3 is on my shopping list, but I don't think I'll go for it, at least not initially. I never buy with a plan, use only prepaid because I actually don't call people, I complement it with a surfing plan, but they don't offer those for LTE yet. Besides, my Note I bought outside Japan so there was only Samsung bloatware on it, Japanese operators load their phones with so much crap it is laughable, hence if you can't root and install a standard Samsung ROM, I happen to be happy with Touchwiz, then I'd be happier with what I have.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
For me price could be one factor which will keep me away from note 3. I will buy it later on when price will drop.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stesteste:
oooh i like the new look ,everything about it has good spec also the smartgear watch since it got announced there has been 100s of situations when i could of done with it cant wait im due upgrade in december but will have to get it in october
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
.The thread title don't give enough hint that in fact you are comparing the Gnote3 vs the GNote2, as the first post indicates, and there is already a thread about it (N2 vs N3)

I think the moderators should merge the 2 threads.

Abusive prices and the fact that a phone still have to prove itself on a daily use, are reasons maybe to some users to not upgrade RIGHT NOW, but not reasons to NOT buy the most recent Flagship or premium phone , which by the way got a indeed very impressive technical datasheet..

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mdalacu:
This is my reason to buy:

Because is my gift from me to me! :laugh:

(allowed only one gift per year... :)) )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
By the way I am proud and more than satisfied GNote2 owner, and I'm not in hurry to upgrade to the Gnote3, but to say that there is not much difference between the two of them, makes no sense whatsoever, imo.

Abusive prices and the fact that a device still have to walk the walk, is another story....

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Skander1998:
I have a very good strategy, when I bought the S1, I waited for the S3 and got it, now I skipped the S4 (my sister got one so i got to play with it anyway) and I'm going to the Note 3, I'll be skipping the S5 and getting an S6 / Note 5.

Seems to be a practical and economic way, jumping from the note to s series and skipping a year in between - I WILL however break the rule as money is not really a problem and if something gets me too interested I'll get it right away.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nabilsweet007:
i will upgrade that the upgrade model N3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Not to be in a hurry to purchase the next very expensive bleeding edge device right away is never a bad idea and sound logical, but logic not always reign in this small world of gadget freaks and OCFD stuff. :laugh:

That and the possibility that you are not really satisfied with your actual device.

I had Gnote1 for only 10 months, because , in fact I was not totally satisfied with it (it got the Yamaha dac, eventual black clipping, among other small annoyances I don't even remember).

The GNote2 had everything I expected so I could not resist it.....

At least I sold my Gnote1 for a very good price.

I can proudly say that the GNote2 it's one of the best phones ever made.

The specs of the Gnote3 look impressive enough, but the phone still got to prove itself in real life mass use....

Let's hope there are enough guinea pigs out there to test it for us :laugh:...

JUST JOKING ..... I find it hard to resist it myself..

But I am positive I will succeed :D

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] oneandroidnut:
good hands on here OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dR1egrylD0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Stolly08:
Ugh I want the gear but my wife says noooo argggg
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AllGamer:
If I had the Notes 2 then I'll agree

But I'm coming from Notes 1 running CM 10, as there's no official TW ROM with Spen support for the new OS

my other phone is the Hercules T989 also running on CM 10

So the Note 3 is a huge upgrade for me, I was going to get the Notes 2, but then i got wind about Notes 3 and decided to wait for this, damn glad i did wait and get my hands on the latest and greatest :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ozziedog:
Yeah the boot loader probably be locked down tighter than that on the S4. I'll just keep my skyrocket and when it dies if the Note 2 is still around I'll get it and not the Note 3:)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bossei:
I'm buying for ONE reason and ONE reason only. I am a gadget junkie! LOL... I mean really do any of us really need all of these things with our phone? We survived many years without them. I remember when a phone review was about the phone!!!! Remember the one that compared call quality??? When was the last time you saw a review like that? I love technology and new things so I buy them. Would I upgrade even if I had the GN2? Probably but would I have a NEED to upgrade NOPE!

I have mine pre-ordered!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Maverick777:
Honestly, as long as I'm able to root the Note 3, I'm OK with a locked bootloader. With the original Galaxy S, I was flashing custom roms on a weekly and sometimes daily basis to eek out as much performance as possible. However, once I upgraded to the Galaxy S3 I really found no need for custom roms. A rooted S3 with Apex/Nova Launcher has been more than enough for day to day use. With the Note 3, I also wouldn't want to lose the S-Pen features and multitasking features built into the stock rom. I think hardware has reached a point where custom roms are no longer necessary for me for a daily driver device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] staryoshi:
The Note 3 is much more than an incremental improvement over the Note 2. It represents a very tangible leap forward. That said, it makes sense to skip a generation between upgrades unless you've got disposable income to spare - and if you do, by all means upgrade as much as you like :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Stolly08:
Agree with you to a certain point.... My S3 on 4.3 Carbon slaughters (and I mean slaughter not just kill) my buddies stock Note 2 in terms of snappiness/quickness... So yes the speed now of a rooted S3 is like Light Speed but a rooted and rommed Note 3 will be Ludicrous Speed! And that to me as a phone junky IS necessary lol

I am scared to loose SPen features if I ROM the Note 3 so I sure hope they can keep them in...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Porkchops:
I'm hoping the Note3 isn't all locked down. It wasn't my first choice of phone (I really wanted to get the Xperia Z1, but it's highly unlikely it'll come to my carrier as they've never carried any Sony phones in the past and there hasn't been any talk of it coming to Canada AFAIK), but coming from my S2, I loved the fact that I could flash whatever I wanted whenever I wanted without the rigmarole of getting past a locked bootloader or the fear of bricking it if I do anything slightly wrong.

I don't think going from one generation to the next is really worth it. That being said, if I had the money to waste doing just that, I would be.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] chuko303:
NONE
[Galaxy Note 3 General] deymayor:
Skipping GN2, going from GN1 to GN3 makes a lot of sense. I think the "upgrade" from 1 to 2 is less substantial that 2 to 3. Skipping this version and waiting for GN4 next year will require a lot of self-control. Good thing for me, I skipped GN2 and will go from GS3 to GN3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] LuckyStrike88:
That was me too, the N2 had 1gb more RAM which is decent, but same screen res negligibly different screen size, same camera (did the US variant come with a quad core proccessor? I thought it was dual core like the GS3?) same storage capacity etc etc.

It was an easy choice for me to stick with the N1 after the N2 came out, but the N3 is totally different than the N2.

If you're happy with the N2 by all means stick with it and I 100% agree about consumerism but the N3 is far more than an incremental change.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] petard:
PenTile.

I've hated every PenTile screen I've ever used. I'll give this one a shot at the store but I have a feeling I'll be sticking with my N2.

---------- Post added at 11:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 PM ----------

I disagree. N1 -> N2 is a bigger improvement. Moving from 1GB to 2GB RAM is a MASSIVE improvement for Android. And if you had the U.S. N1 with a ****ty Snapdragon S3 processor then the processor in the N2 (same in all versions) is also MUCH, MUCH better. The N3 seems to have just increased the RAM by 1GB again but my N2 is definitely not struggling for RAM like my N1 was. They moved from RGB 720 screen to PenTile 1080 screen. I'm going to give it a shot at the store but I'm pretty disappointed.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Suzook1:
had a note 1 and thought it couldnt get any better until I got a note 2. Got a note 2 and thinking it cant get any better??? well it has. October 2 cant come fast enough.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
A couple of points. First, I agree with you about PenTile; but it depends on how it's implemented. I bought a One X over the SGS3 because of the difference in displays and suffered (and I do mean suffered) with a 1,800mAh battery to do so. I have no doubt the N3 will have a PenTile display. It'll most likely use the Diamond Pixel geometry introduced on the SGS4's display. The concept of PenTile is to use fewer physical pixels but use them in combination to emulate a higher pixel count. The SGS3's emulated PPI is 306. The SGS4's emulated PPI is 441.

Now let's talk physical pixel count. The N2, being non-PenTile, has a physical pixel count of 267 PPI. The way PenTile works is that only red-blue pixels are reduced in count and used in tandem with green and each other to emulate a higher number of pixels. So the N2 has a physical red-blue pixel count of 267PPI. The Galaxy S4 has a physical red-blue pixel count of 312 PPI (even though its emulated PPI is 441). Flash ahead to the N3. Because of the larger display, the physical red-blue pixel count of the N3's display will be lower than the SGS4's; most likely in the 290's.

Therefore it'll still have a higher physical PPI than the N2.

One of the benefits of PenTile is the ability to crank up the brightness. The N2's display wasn't very bright compared to the SGS4's which sports Samsung's brightest AMOLED to date.

Galaxy S4

Note 2

So the bottom line is it's impossible for N3's PenTile display to be inferior to the N2's; at least based on physical PPI. The SGS4's display got great reviews and Samsung's Diamond Pixel geometry has improved brightness, display longevity, and made it impossible to detect the historic effects of PenTile. Having nothing to do with Samsung's wizardry, at 400+PPI the effects of PenTile sort of take care of themselves as at the high a pixel count the human eye is the lowest common denominator.

This is a pretty testy thread but contains a lot of info starting on page eight. Discussions of PenTile remind me of American's distaste for diesel cars (now 55% of the EU market) based on bad experiences at the hands of U.S. manufacturers in the 80's. The past doesn't always predicate the future.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2246813&page=8
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
[MENTION=1493949]BarryH_GEG[/MENTION]

Good posting as always, thanks.

I understood almost half of it :laugh:

But it's GNote2's screen not bright enough? Meaning, more brightness, more emulation = less energy efficiency?

I am starting to think that the GNote2 will remain the king of battery performance.

Well time will tell....

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
You can deal with this outdoor visibility stuff with some dev love and save even more battery juice.

Get some tweaks like on Simplistic Framework and activate negative mode, straight from power menu:

Right there, better outdoor visibility + less battery consumption ;)

Nothing better then to have a great phone , nothing to fix, only to improve .....

Well....time will tell...

You know, nothing like walking the walk :D

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Oh so true. And that's my greatest fear actually. The SGS4 looked incredibly impressive on paper and the launch s/w and initial performance was, shall we say, a bit lacking in quality. I'm hoping history repeats itself. The N2 corrected and improved on the SGS3. Let's hope the N3 does the same thing to the SGS4. As you said, time will tell. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alpinesun:
I would say going from the Note 1 to Not 2 wasn't necessary being that it didn't improve much on the display alone. But with full 1080p, and processing power to be future proof of whatever android throws at it? Yes I think I will trade my Note 2 in for that shiny new model. Plus its annoying not being able to touch the capacitive buttons with my stylus.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
No fear, no worries. It's an Android...

I am sure the GNote3 will get even more DEV love than the GNote2..

You just have to say - I will root it, I will unlock the bootloader, I will try different Mod Roms, Kernels and other mods....

And at end of the day, you will finally say:

My name is Barry and I am a Flashoholic ! :laugh: :laugh:

I would say going from Note 1 to Note 2, for me was quite a huge improvement, regarding the screen (black clipping , color binding) and sound quality (Note1- Yamaha DAC and Note2- Wolfson DAC) not to mention screen format and a couple of h/w upgrades

But I had a good with the GNote1 too. I am just a lot more enthusiastic with the GNote2.

Hoping for the new GNote3 users, the progression will be geometric ;)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
Sticking with my 32gb S4 since easy for one hand operation. I would try with N3 and would inevitably drop it.

If I could palm a basketball I might consider this size. Nice device though for folks liking phablets.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a "mini-review" from GSMArena that was just published. It's more detailed than a "hands-on" and not as detailed as their full review which is coming.

Here's their initial impressions...

The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 is the phablet flagship for this year and the upcoming holiday season. Samsung made sure of it and despite having many opponents to shuffle through before it can get the user's seal of approval, the Galaxy Note 3 does offer something the competition just doesn't - the S Pen.

If you want a high-end and high-res canvas on which to indulge your digital drawing and writing needs, while still managing to make phone calls and take pictures, then the Galaxy Note 3 is the only device to turn to. That's not to say LG, Huawei, Sony and the rest of the major makers don't put up a good fight.

First thought to be nothing but a gimmick, a relic from days bygone, the S Pen is now the center of attention on the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. That and the overwhelmingly huge display fitted into what seems to be a still pocketable body. We gotta admit, we've got team members here, who are huge fans of the active stylus input and now that we've had the time to properly get to know all of the new Note 3 features, we can help but want some more.

This time around however, we only had a pre-production unit for this preview. We certainly hope to experience more of the Note 3 and see how it fares in departments we didn't even touch upon this time. And from our early look, we have a really solid feeling that the Note 3 might just turn to be the phablet to beat this autumn.​

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_preview-review-986.php
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheNewLegend:
I have a gs4 and note 2 and the screen at the s4 looks so much sharper..

I think that the difference between 267PPI and 290PPI would not bee such great the s4 screen, I really like the note 3 and maybe I will upgrade to it in the future. The only let down for me is the sharpness of the screen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
You misunderstood. The effective PPI on the different devices are as follows:

N2 = 267 (720P)

SGS3 = 312 (720P)

N3 = 386 (1080P)

SGS4 = 441 (1080P)

The only reason there are fewer PPI on the N3 vs. the SGS4 is that the screen resolution's the same but stretched out over a larger area. Unless you held a SGS4 and N3 closer than 7" from your 20/20 eyes or looked at them with a magnifying glass you wouldn't notice the difference. The N3's 290 PPI you quoted are physical pixels which in comparison your SGS4 only has 312 of. Those 290/312 pixels play a dual-role which is how they end up at 386/441 and is the magic (curse? ;) ) of PenTile. In other words, if you're happy with your SGS4's PenTile display you'd be happy with the N3's. The exception being that according to GSMArena the SGS4's display is brighter than the N3's. But the N3 is brighter than the N2's.

If you're still not convinced the PPI race is a marketing game read this...

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] betoNL:
Yet another review (recent):

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6F_1_HKZefc&desktop_uri=/watch?v=6F_1_HKZefc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
This should help ally some fears...

SGS3

N2

SGS4

One

N3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
Thank you, here is a helpful gif that compares note 2 with Note 3 from the samples you provided:

here it is with the color stripped out as i think the text pictured on the note 3 was of a different color? Or at least i hope it was because that's very violet.

I'm not sure if the comparisons used the same font size or not? If they are the same font size then they are actually different sizes on the device since the n3 is 1080 therefore the text would be smaller. That means they had to use a higher level of magnification to get the n3's shot to be in a 1:1 size ratio with the n2 shot. What that translates to is that the n3 picture will look even better than this comparison shows because it would actually be smaller on the screen making imperfections harder for your naked eye to spot.

p.s. the shot of the ONE looks amazing. its almost like it was printed on paper. wowsers!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BarryH_GEG:
Impressive. And fast too. ;)

To me, the most important comparison is to LCD (the HTC One). The differences between the SGS4/N3 and One magnified are so slight at 7" away you couldn't detect a sharpness difference. And 7" away is hella close for a 5.7" display. We've been talking PenTile <> PenTile but LCD comparisons will be inevitable.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
Yes, that ONE is purty. I live in florid so i'm also very interested in sunlight readability.

But hey, quick question... You don't think that "champion" text on the N3 is the color it is because of the larger blue and red pixels do you? that's a scary thought...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] haemaker:
When the Note2 was announced, I focused on the screen. The screen was bigger, but actually a lower resolution (720p v. 1280x800). I decided to ROM my Note rather than upgrade. Now that the screen is 1080p and all the other improvements, time to upgrade. I an hoping SafeStrap works, I'd love to try it on some insane ppi like 160... ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dreDrennon1:
I never had a note so I am upgrading from the S4 to the note 3 I see lots of things I will definitely use on the note 3 but I don't use a quarter of the stuff on the S4 it was cool at first but after a while just got on my nerves