[Galaxy S 4 General] Absolon:
If you have a system that have a Knox BL? Nope.

So as going around and getting around a signed BL compared to your unique cert? NOPE. Never, if not the password is "Samsung" ;)

OR a human error, like they cracked the Xbox 360 etc. Someone forgot something. That can happen. If I had time I would check every damn BL!

The thing is that Knox loads an SELinux. It can be small, tiny doesn't matter, it can point to something else, you have the option in Linux to boot a Linux in

a Linux (in a Linux). All matter of code.

But since the SELinux can point to whatever it want as long as you are "inside" there is no way out. Only pre-Knox BL can do.

But I don't get that statement, because it would mean that if I'm Knox x01 then I should be able to boot whatever I want? No restriction on BL?

I need to make several calls tomorrow.

And the e-fuse, it just doesn't flag. It must do something more. They warn for areas. Where are they? Are they the hidden partition that runs in a normal Knox?

Will Knox 0x01 make my phone as it was? No, it won't since I already found out that. It still refuses things it shouldn't so the phone is still hindering me

while having root. so the statement is not telling the whole truth here.

Why did my phone run and deleted stuff? I noticed this morning I had icons left. I Odined the version I donloaded before they closed down *wheew*

I rerooted it. Still something not right.

I wish I never got post-op amnesia threw the phone into the wall twice and broke it in half. But that is Foxhoud's fault. His rom didn't boot fast enough ;)

This is what I don't like

Before Knox - You -> Warranty (serial) --- halting way to you. Possible yes. Going through the warranty to find you etc.

After Knox - You --> Warranty (serial) --> Serial = your cert --> search "their net" --> YOU (instantly) --> Sinister Samsung/whatever

There is nothing that Know adds as value for US.

Don't even have to talk about population control. Imagine this:

I don't know how it is in other countries but in Sweden you have 6 months "trial" after the company can decide if they want to keep you or not.

1) You start a new work at a nice firm. WOW!

2) You get your Knoxified phone. Shiny, Note 3, leather imitation but still.

3) Since they phone as an unique id they know it's your phone and that it's you.

4) You will have that phone with you everywhere and re-charge it next to the bed.

5) I wonder if you chit-chat in bed as most tend to do? Do you happen to mention things about the company? If the boss a big fat jerk? Did something happen?

6) Call your sponsor at AA to brag about this, even though you've been clean for 10 years or get out and party a bit much. Slippery tongue?

7) Ouch, you seem to have someone at the side.

8) Your brother calls again. They are having domestic problems. Yet again you have to spend the whole evening to sort it out.

9) The company get a summary of your actions from their subscription they have at Samsung.

Now they really can decide if they want to hire you.

Just a simple thing like this. It's $$$.

Don't even have to rush for any population control in Iran, although I'm sure they pay quite a hefty sum for that.

I'm sure that besides making rules about applauding in public (TRUE), Litovchenko is a potential buyer. A bit low of cash though.

Maybe his pal Putin can lend some?

We know XDA is followed closely by Samsung. Root de la Vega was a way too root Note 3 without tripping Knox. Released HERE.

Now I know what the "Security update #16" was.

They are using XDA to check their bugs, holes etc simple because people here are awesome!

So you can bet that this post if followed by Samsung. If there is anyplace someone finds a whole it's here. They want perfection.

They follow this thread. The forums. You don't even have to be regged to read this (now WHY IS THAT???)

Find one?

PLEASE! Don't write it in the open. PM a dev, mod. Someone you trust. So they can pass it along. Just don't brag it out!

Since I made a big fuzz here in Sweden.... and its read by Samsung I'll just cut short. But go ahead, ask them yourself! They love to help! ;)

DEAR SAMSUNG!

I'm sure you identified by now who I am in real life. Then you know a lot, but I'm a nice guy and give you a freebie (or is it a honey pot?): FRA.

If Knox is indeed is an e-fuse, what does it REALLY destroy? I'm sure that is NOT legal to deliberately destroy something in Sweden. Even by mighty you!

You know I don't "own" the phone, right? It's on a plan. Telenor own the device until the plan runs out.

I'll be sure to mention that to them tomorrow. Wonder how they will react? You know they are quite big.

I got no information about Knox when I bought my phone. So how could I make any active decision if I accept it or not?

Knox was sneaked in on my phone, very timely with leaked 4.3 versions. Good move!

But did I miss the "out out" for this huge change[/B

]?

As you know if a device is changed that much that it can be any longer considered as original you have that pesky refund thing in the law?

I wonder how people would react if this info gets released on other forums then this hard-core. Spy-phone?

I actually tried it at my friends, you know working where. Ops. They are leaving their phones at home.

Think that will be a trend?

[*]The "warranty" states "Do not install any other operative systems". Nobody can question Android to the OS, not Touchwiz, right? TouchWiz is just crap.

[*]I can't read the warranty because it's a sealed box. If I break the seal I can't return it to the store. No rules on the box. Sorry. I'm not Superman.

[*]There is no information that tripping Knox

destroys hardware

. That is an deliberate action. I wonder if that is allowed in ANY country on earth?

[*]I didn't see anything about rooting either, nor was I informed when buying.

Do I have to ask my car salesman if I can speed with my new car?

[*]Why do we HAVE to boot an SELinux? If it's so clean and all, why not showing at least you are not using a VM?

[*]I'll be calling tomorrow. Please prepare Nicklas, Fredrik or whatever they pretend they are for my call. I'll make some E-fuss! I promise ;)

All the best! :)

From now I will consider all who always defend Samsung as employees. There is no other logical explanation why else you should defend this breach of privacy.

To the rest of the community Knox will be totally integrated in a chip in S5. As said. Not too late. Just get to it. Make some fuss! I'm forced to cut back.

*can see home some jump in joy* ;)

Be sure to look for HTC or some other next year or live in your "box". I won't.

In the end, It's all about money.

/Abs