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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] v00d007:
Has the s4 mini support been removed in the meantime (?) cause it doesn't work on my one (europ. black ed). Always closes without a comment right after start.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Thanks for your great, comprehensive reply brokenchains, I decided to go ahead with it, I now have exactly what I wanted, the current Echoe for my primary, and the current PAC man for my secondary, stoked! A couple of other things I'd like to ask now though, does each rom have its own partition on the sd card for apps? That is, How do apps saved to sd work across both roms? Completely independent? Also, (provided the rom is supported) how would I go about flashing xposed framework to my secondary? Thanks again for your excellent reply and great help.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
You can't share apps moved to sd card because Android encrypts them and do not allow the other ROM (or anything else) to get access.

You need to install in both ROMs.

My personal experience is not to move anything to sdcard and share all apps among ROMs ;)

You don't need to flash Xposed, you can install the apk like any other app.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Thanks technical, I installed the xposed installer but there is 0Mb free in /system on the secondary rom so it won't install the framework, primary has 11+Mb left in /system, I guess when a second rom is installed it allocates just enough room for the rom and no extra. There's not really any system apps to remove from Pacman either, and the one or two I tried to remove, the app in the original post wouldn't change them, any advice on making some room?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
You must have a lot of apps?

I have five ROMs installed as per my signature plus two hundred user apps no problem!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Wow, 5 roms, I'd love to have three, but I would also love to have the ones I have now set up how I want them. Nope, I have about 60 user apps installed, I haven't touched anything apart from titanium restoring the apps I wanted, are the roms I chose just huge? Would Gapps for Pacman have anything to do with it?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dr.wtf:
so... has anyone managed to patch danvdh ge? getting name 'os' is not defined.

[MENTION=5528810]Jimsilver73[/MENTION] also theres no 'Google experience/dandroid' as you wrote but 'GoogleEdition\dandroid' and this doesn't work. i'm not sure if the name changed in the newer version or if you just made a mistake or if i'm blind.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
How big are the zips of the ROMs you are using.

Un-zipped they will be larger. The limitation are in the system partition, which is about 2.7gb, abd cache (where the Multi-boot ROMs go. If you want to use 3, you will have to sort out which ones to put in the above partitions. So post the sizes.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Have echo as primary, dan ge secondary and dan aosp on multislot 1

Os is not defined is an error that got solved in the latest snapshot

My only regret after trying dual booting is why the hell I haven't tried this LONG time ago

I truly believe this is how samsung phones should be shipped as ( sam tw on primary and pure Android on secondary)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] chenxiaolong:
If I can work out some last minute issues quickly, a beta version of 9.0.0 should be released tomorrow (PC-only for now) :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] DeuXGod:
Will it support the note 3 N9005? :D

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
that's probably my problem I guess, Echoe is pretty big, what's weird is last time I had Pacman booted I checked with Root Explorer and it said /system had 0MB free, now in Root Explorer, /system with Pacman booted is identical to when I have Echoe booted, which I guess is what it should look like, I guess if I want a third rom I'm going to have to give Echoe up for something smaller, I was hoping to put in a third rom that was totally different again, like MIUI for example.

primary:

S4_Echoev29_S5PORT_PARTV_090814.zip - 1.42GB

secondary:

pac_jflte-RC-1-20140831.zip - 222MB

gapps-kk-20140606-signed.zip - 150MB

/system = 2.64GB used, 11.23MB free < I'm not even sure that's enough spare room to work with long term.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Free up some junk from the tw rom, I took off 800 megabytes of bloatware from the same rom you have
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Yeah, I figured there would be a lot of crap on there, I'm just not sure what might upset the system if i remove it, I'll have a look and see what I can take out, I'm curious though as to whether I can just go through and remove things now or should I have slimmed down the Echoe rom before I installed Pacman? Or should I have slimmed down the Echoe rom and re-zipped it before I flashed it in the first place? Or doesn't matter? Also, is there a recommended amount of free space in /system or will the free space only limit the room for user apps? I'm just not sure if there needs to be some headroom in there for the system to function properly. Thanks again for everyone's help so far, great, helpful bunch of minds here at xda.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] monkteo:
Spirit rom on secondary I can't patch any file, any idea why ?

(change rom from secondary to primary or reverse working)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
What is your recovery?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
Have you installed any multi ROMs? If not, you have 2.1gb available there. Don't know how big MiUi is, but zipped size total to about 1.3-1.4gb should work. If it fails to boot, boot up another ROM and check the room in cache. If zero, that's the problem.

As for /system, go into app manage and see if there are any "fat" Google and Samsung apps you can live without and delete some.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] monkteo:
Philz version 6.57.5 but on primary rom work perfect (TW SHOstock-i v8)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
I'm agree, no problem with it !

Send from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Negroid:
I started using this rom during the beginning of the summer to use tw to take pics with and an aosp as my daily. It's been working fine until about a month ago. My secondary rom, PA, has been sluggish recently. My previous rom, C-rom, wasn't laggy as a secondary though. I thinking it's either due to 1) house cleaning needed, 2) My large amount of apps, 3) paranoid android itself or 4) or hardware issues. Is anyone else having similar issues. I plan on redoing the whole process and seeing what happens.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
Take a look at space and see how much free in /system. If almost nothing, that could slow it down. If not crowded, try wiping only secondary system and caches and reflash the secondary and see how it runs.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
It might even don't boot. If free space is null.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] veryjo:
can I use the patcher on the LG G2 32GB D802...?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
It's very dangerous to run without space. Phone will freeze, app will crash...

TW ROMs take a lot of space.

You can use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ljmobile.system.app to remove system app, but take care, know what you're doing.

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Use Goldeneye slim tool on PC to debloatware TW ROMs.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45170794&postcount=2 section addons.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
Agree - I have had that happen a number of times trying to squeeze a TW ROM in as a multiboot - filled up the space and would not boot. . But in his case, they are booting OK but secondary is sluggish.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Waltee:
I'm not sure if this is an S4 Mini issue, my custom recovery (PhilZ Touch) or something else entirely but when I try to install a third rom in any of the multi-rom slots I just get a "7" error and it doesn't install.

It's definitely not the rom zip file because I've tried it with the same roms that have installed several times as primary or secondary, so I'm wondering if it's just a compatibility issue with my phone or recovery. Anyone care to shed some light or have the same issue?

Great app though, will probably never go back to a single boot now.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dr.wtf:
like this it works for danvdh ge with 8.0.0.r99.g3010537 snapshot (thats the latest, right?) but i have random vibrations when phone is asleep.

catlog constantly shows

Config file /raw-data/syncdaemon.json not found
failed to load configuration file

dandroid preset still gives a bootloop.

i'm pretty sure syncdaemon has something to do with the vibrations.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] davy4475:
Will this work with carhd rom
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Well friend that's what I have been working on for weeks now, trying to get to the bottom of this ugly random vibrations

It's worse during calls

Only in dan ge

So far no luck

Please let me know if you do
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Waltee:
I can't seem to get custom kernels to work on my secondary ROM regardless of what the ROM is. The stock kernel works, but if I flash a custom kernel for the secondary ROM it doesn't boot up.

And if I try to install the same custom kernel that I use on my primary ROM (f4ktion) that I've patched for the secondary it'll just boot my primary ROM no matter which is chosen to boot.

So I am forced to stick with the stock kernel for my secondary ROM or is there a workaround that I'm not aware of?

I should mention that my phone is the S4 Mini and custom recovery is PhilZ Touch.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] royredman:
Is this supposed to be the app data sharing version? I really hope so!! :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] snarlytaz:
1) CM based roms? About the only kernel I can get to work is GoogyMax3 116 for new CM. Something changed in CM recently that not all other kernels have caught up yet.

2) Recently I found when using APK sharing from Primary and being a flash-o-holic to secondary that not removing sharing from Primary first can cause the secondary even after wiping all before installing to catch the sharing when first booting up. Boot hangs until I go back into recovery and reflash the kernel (and in my case LOKI for VZW) again.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Waltee:
I've tried C-ROM (also currently my primary that DOES have a custom kernel working), LiquidSmooth, SlimKat, and Carbon.

All install and boot up fine if I do nothing with the kernels, but as soon as I install a kernel by either installing a patched zip of it in my recovery or using the app to install the currently running ROMs kernel to my secondary it just hangs on boot after the Samsung screen. One hang of which started with coloured pixels before the screen eventually turned completely white.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Ok, doing pretty well figuring my way around multi booting, I now have 3 roms working well, but I'm having issues trying to get miui to work as a fourth, it seems to install fine, it just hangs at the boot logo, I have tried 3 different versions of miui, including an official miui rom, which was recognised by the patcher, and still no luck, /cache still has 700+MB after installation, /system is still pretty full, don't know how much that affects multi slot roms, not sure if it just doesn't like being in multi slot 2 or if there's something else going on. Also, I'm seeing people talking about turning on app sharing, how safe is it and will it share all apps across all roms? Does it save space? Thanks guys.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
Try the miui in my signature, works fine for me
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
I had downloaded that one but hadn't actually tried it, just patched and flashed then and still no luck, just stays on the boot screen with the MI logo and android at the bottom, been about 5 minutes now, I used the \ROMs\other\miui preset, any other suggestions?

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WOW, and in the 8-10 minutes it took to reboot, flash the rom, wait a few minutes, then reboot back into recovery, my battery went from over 50%to zero percent!? I plugged my charger in, I thought maybe my recovery (Philz) just had an issue but while I was in recovery I wiped multi slot 2, switched to primary and booted up, it says 2%, something is not right here I think.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
The supersu issues returned to me.

Some ROMs have superuser access (like CM) and others not (MIUI).

When I try to update the binary using SuperSu (Pro) it fails. I cannot use the CWM/TWRP method for non-primary ROMs.

Does anybody know how to solve this?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] snarlytaz:
Are you setting your kernels in the patcher app? Setting primary first before installing secondary in recovery? Usually I flash custom kernel (patched) immediately after ROM, and once booted one of my first orders of business is to install the patcher app and set the kernel as secondary.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Check if your battery is swollen
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
Nah, battery is fine, it's my third one, had **** luck with the first two, the original battery actually started forcing the display out of the phone, I have no idea what happened there, I charged it up and it seems fine. I might try a different rom, cm or something in ms2 and see if that works.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
Sometimes you have to boot twice on first boot, it's a known miui bug, for me the first time too!

Just hard power off then reboot (be patient, miui takes long to boot!!!!!)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dicko101:
yeah, I ended up getting miui to work, cant get gapps on it now, tried a few things but get inundated with FCs at boot, time to give it a rest I think, just discovered my battery is actually fried too, I had it out yesterday and it was fine, just had another look, already swollen by about 2mm, unbelievable, looks like a fourth battery is on the way, not very happy.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Waltee:
Yeah I've tried all of that. I can get the kernel working for my primary ROM with no issues whatsoever. If I flash the custom kernel the secondary ROM just won't boot, and if I set it in the app it says that it's been successfully set but then nothing happens. Either that, or it boots into the primary ROM anyway.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] mubeen_94:
I wish to use this same method to dual boot TouchWiz 4.4 and CM11 in my S4 i9506. Will this be supported?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
I usually have to reflash SuperSU with recovery. Have patched Version 2.01 for all my ROMs for just that reason. Has always fixed it.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
I'm flashing it too and it does not work, i.e., in MIUI the root is lost, in CM I stand with default superuser (not SuperSu).

I've tried to let SuperSu as user only (not system app) but it does not seem to help either. By the way, it's very difficult to return SuperSu from system app to user app.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] mubeen_94:
I'm planning to flash this unofficial CM rom as a secondary rom to my stock rooted TW 4.4 rom in my S4 i9506 - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2767448

As I'm using a TW rom as a primary rom, is there a need to patch the secondary rom and its Gapps? Will the whole technique work? Kindly reply............
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
Why 2.01 and not 2.02?

Can we stay with 2.01 with automatic update via Google Play?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
Because many had problems with latter than 2.00 (kantjer - the OP of SlimSaber had asked for a link to 2.00 due to that). The later versions were for the new file formats only.

I have had no issues with 2.01 and play store has not tried to update it.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] davy4475:
when installing my second rom i keep getting bad installation, what am i doing wrong. i now have no wifi on my first rom. thanks in advance for any help given
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] XxLordxX:
Hi,

MIUI has root under Security app, open it and you'll find something like Root Access. And CM already has SuperUser built in, no need to install SuperSU over system one.

~Lord

"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)

Sent from my KitKat Nexus 10
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
I know. I've found it. But it simply does not work. No root.

Yeah, but some apps, like Titanium Backup works poorly with system supersu. I had a lot of issues in the past...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
To overcome the wifi issue falsh the latest kernel available for your primary rom, for the second kernel give more info.. What rom.. Available spaces..

And use the thanks button :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] davy4475:
For my primary rom it was carhd and the second rom was goldeneye. Wifi was good until I tried to flash the second rom but as I said it failed. No issue with available space
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Are those both tw roms?! Of course it will fail if so.

It's always better to flash your chosen tw rom as primary, heavily debloat, set kernel as primary then proceed with flashing your other non tw roms.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
Yes,that! It was before. Normally now, it should work. Except if he has still the old app.

When it's useful to do it.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Of course!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
Which version of dualboot Patcher are you?

Otherwise you:

TW in secondary, right?

If you can, try to put your TW like primary, I know, it's boring but if it can set your issue. Your problem was related at this before.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] gaww:
Normally I do that, but now also have one as multiboot and no problems. Had just enough room in secondary for an AOSP ROM. Have to still have some space still open in System and cache, or there will be problems.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] franzyroy:
I know but I talked about before.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] angeloumbao:
anyeone got a dualboot patched supersu? anylink would be nice. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
Why don't you download it and patch it by yourself? It will take less than 10 seconds to patch :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] angeloumbao:
It won't tried already. Btw, I'm in the secondary ROM as dan's cm m9 stable rom. When i download it from playstore and update it, it fails always. Tried the zip nothing happens after reboot it prompts to be updated again. And also my problem is i can't allow my secondary rom better battery stats to be installed as sytem user. It always fails. Tried to share it across from the primary rom still no avail. Also i tried the exposed module to enable battery stats but still no luck.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
I was experiencing this too until I've found a weird method...

I'm using SuperSu 2.01 and not 2.02.

I install it from Google Play, tried and it asks for root access to the default superuser, grant it, fail to install.

Next boot, other tentative it fails again.

Next boot, without open the app, it asks for permission. Grant it.

Open the app and it fails to install.

New boot and it installs.

In other words, 4-5 boots to get it.

I've tested it with CM and SlimKat and it worked on both after 4-5 boots.

Weird uh?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] angeloumbao:
Okay, gonna try the 4-5 times will update after. :)

edit: tried for 8 times still no luck. do this only occurs when cm is at dualboot(secondary) or it's still the same even on primary?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Technical:
I never tested on primary. Maybe you could try to flash supersu 2.01 at recovery and test some boots.

http://download.chainfire.eu/451/SuperSU/
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] angeloumbao:
Yup, tried also still no luck. :|
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] jigsawcrank:
Why I can't patch ROMs(e.g. slimkat) for hlte with the windows gui? I simply load the ROM then I click ok, but nothing happens...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] lpdavidgc:
Wait for the update it will fixed I think :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] jigsawcrank:
Ok sorry, I will..
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] v00d007:
I can now also confirm that the patcher works on a S4 mini 9195 too. Only the space is running out on system partition when i use a TWz rom (heavily debloated of course) as one of two roms. Does anyone know where the recovery system is located that's got to be a image file somewhere... i would like to delete it to free up some more space.

(I mean the one triggered when using the 'reset to factory presets' option in system settings.)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
I got strange issue multi booting ge based ROMs. Latest dandvh ge and kangakat both the same issue. Patch and boot fine but as soon as I install xposed and GB I get vibrations randomly every minute or so, like on first boot with googymax, but they do not stop. It doesn't matter what kernel I use, same results (actually thinking about it I haven't tried KT) but I don't think it is kernel, as it's fine before installing xposed. Thing is that even uninstalling xposed doesn't help after the random vibrations occur, that is after reboot of course. Thought it might be corrupted dual slot so I tried multi 3 and exact same issue.

Anyone???

I used to use Dan's ge as my daily driver a couple of months ago and it was fine.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dr.wtf:
[MENTION=4547867]MohamedN[/MENTION] has this too...

i'm using cm as primary rom and ge as secondary. idea was to try ge as primary and cm as secondary to check if its only a problem if you use ge as secondary.

check in your catlog if you find the same error. it appears every time the phone vibrates.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
Dandvh GE solved

To anyone interested:

I have successfully got Dandvh running again without random vibrations. I rolled back to patcher 7.0.0.r151 and used that to patch and now everything is running sweet, app sharing is working fine and voting from one ROM to another is working perfectly :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] dr.wtf:
care to link or upload that version? couldn't find it
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Couldn't find this exact version so tried with 7.0.0 stable, unfortunately vibrations are still there. Would be so much appreciated if you could share the apk. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
patcher app 7.0.0.r151

Use this to patch ge ROMs to work without vibration. Make sure you patch kernel with it too ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MohamedN:
Says failed to patch os is not defined :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Jsilver73:
You need to change ramdisk to:

jflte/GoogleEdition/GoogleEdition