[Galaxy S 4 General] Absolon:
hahaha, I got EXACTLY the same answer. It's copy/paste here ;)

But then since Knox does way more then tripping a bit, since there IS code that comes along with it. Brave souls. dump your pre/post-Knoxed devices and

compare the contents and you will find that your OS has been modified as well. So to get a proper device you have to Odin it since they screw up Play and

more.

What they do with your hardware is still an open question.

But since this was not put in an update, without informing of the consequences of the new function that changes the phone quite heavily and no warning

that it will do harm I question their methods but applaud them releasing it here, in this forum. Well done Samsung!

The consequence, and since I wrote this as well to them they can identify me but I think that since they have my unique certificate already have, is totally

not proportional for the simple thing of getting admin rights over your own property.

Argue away about warranty. At least Sony and HTC have a way where you can register, opt-out your warranty and play with your phone all you want.

Samsung, that is, CURRENTLY, the biggest company when it comes to Android phones punishes their investors, us, that bought expensive products

for private use, get pushed into something only Samsung and NSA knows what it contains, makes "Mission Impossible" stunts to prevent accesss

(This device will self destruct in 10 seconds).

I'm assuming since Samsung don't want to play with open cards they are hiding something and I consider my (current) 2 devices as potential security threats,

and warn all friends and so on from using them. If only Sony didn't do devices that looked like bricks...

What do you say about the new LG?

Also Snapdragon 800, like the I9506/Note 3 but I think without electronic bombs.

Recall like10 years ago, who was THE king? Nokia. Look at them now. They stopped caring about their customers as well. So never underestimate

consumer power. Just spread the word. They are blowing up your phone if you do a harmless thing like rooting. Just because you want to use your

devices as you wish. MY CHOISE and property. No company will ever decide what I am allowed to the product I bought from them.

And the argument of "You can put a document in a container" is so lame that I don't find word for it. Since my bought Antivirus can't access the memory

any longer who will pay for the damages? They write that they won't but then they don't let me install it?

Oh, I was over at their "Open source" initiative. The question is still, how can I put a compiled kernel, from their sources without tripping Knox or getting it

to start since the mis-match of their certificates (that I want to have removed since they are in infringement on my privacy).

I started to talk TO my phone since I don't know what code is so damn protected by the other E-fuse that they warn about. I mean, E-fuse data?

Was first a flag, then there is code to it, and it does "heavy damage" to the phone (got that in a mail from "The Knox Team).

But they won't specify what that damage is, so since this is deliberate I'm turning in my phone because of a hardware error. That will be interesting indeed.

And who invented the "Pie" in the first place? Since it's in Note 3 I think it's theft of intellectual property, not?

Well, I'm mailing my last one tomorrow. After that I will sit down with my friends who are lawyers and think for a bit. This is not ok, just that we want to

fix their buggy products (that we are allowed too if you go to opensource.samsung.com).

And have a nice Chistmas that here usually consist of eating picked herring, small sausages that contain 1% meat. Oh! Meatballs and ham!

If you are a traditionalist as my father you also take the water from the cocked and lightly baked ham and put sweat bread with raisins in it. Sounds as

appealing as a haggis, not? :P

/Absie

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I'm so happy that I always save pages like that and also that Google had this nice cache-function :P