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[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Please tell us the name and address of that repair center which offered to reset your knox.

This must be pursuited.

Maybe some people with knox 0:1 will get it reseted and maybe they will get more info about this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] lowgitek:
TAMET, Elect. e Comunicações, S.A

Rua Capela do Telheiro 70/76

Porto - Portugal

By the way I directly went there I didn't ask by phone or email, I'm not sure they would say something by those means. I just put the question and the guy just make it clear to me, no fuss, no problem.

for more info, if there are still someone doubting about it...

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-root-de-la-vega

Sorry if the links are duplicate here on forum I didn't had time to check if there are any mention to it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mikejones13:
Hey guys.

Just want to give you a heads up on an email I received last week

Hi XXXXXX,

I just left you a VM. I’ve been given 2 Knox loaded Samsung S4s ready to ship that we’ve been asked by Samsung to distribute to selected customers for testing and feedback. You would keep them for around 60 – 90 days. You were asking about KNOX and with your experience with Samsung and XXXXXXX your feedback would be invaluable. We’re looking to ship them out today so as soon as you let me know you’re ok to receive them we’ll ship them to the school for you.

A little background on me. I currently work for a school who has deployed 700+ Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 to our students and staff. I AM the building admin when it comes to anything tech related. I am also the admin for our MDM (Mobile Device Management) which already uses the KNOX security and container. Basically I was told to test out the KNOX security and any rooting/hacking with the security already activated. I am hoping to get a lot of info out of samsung and our MDM about knox and if/how I can reset the knox flag. The devices should be in my hands sometime this week and I should have more information then. I AM NOT trying to gain attention or anything like that. I just love technology and if a roadblock is put up in front of me I ALWAYS try to find out why and how to go around it. I will post more info when I have it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] testadeferro:
This is contraditory I was at Tamet repairing my phone and the boss technician explained me that knox can´t be reseted because is an efuse and only with a mobo change it´s possible to reset it to 0X0... And explained me a lot more about knox and warranty void.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
So avoid the boss and go get a beer with a regular technician..

Although Samsung says it's impossible to reset knox there are quite a few reports of this been done.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vessina:
Incredible!! I bought my s4 cause i had a gnex until a few months and like samsung powa!! Fastest devices with a big community like xda for playing with ours roms, kernels and a lot of modded firmwares.. Y

Now, Samsumg goes in the same line like apple.. A f*** ****.. If they will not reconsider their new closest political, next device for me will be a sony or lg..

**** kakanox and **** 600€ device.. A very bad buy this time.. :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] lowgitek:
You just answer yourself... (falaste com a pessoa errada...)

I contact knox support again and they say they can change the mobo without problem if I want to. Of course they should charge me for a new mobo probally or... I could find a nice way to find someone to say that mobo have any other problem as the Porto guys said they would do for me.

By the way:

"(...)

There are two possible scenarios: first, a new KNOX Container can no longer be created on such a device; and second, the data encrypted and stored in an existing KNOX Container can no longer be retrieved. Everything else should work just as before.

(...)

Best regards

Steve

Samsung KNOX Team

www.samsungknox.com"

---------- Post added at 07:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:19 PM ----------

Which part you didn't understand?

First you are not forced to use knox, second, nothing changes on your warranty...

If you still have some question about it please read my last post.

Regards,
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vessina:
Ok.. My warranty doesnt mater for me.. I have a nice pay insurance with my carrier..

My problem is that vulnerability from samsung co in my device.. That timebomb which off my wifi if i use stock kernel.. Or wanna reinstall stock firmware.. Ok.. Idea is good.. Warranty flag one but dont f*** my wifi for example..

Or if i flash a nice rom from developers, camera fails.. Or reboot loops..

Thats what make me disappointed with knox..
[Galaxy S 4 General] om22:
None of this happens because of knox. Read a bit the solution for wifi and camera is easy:good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vessina:
Wish some best codders that we have in xda will someday repair that funny joke from samsung mobile..
[Galaxy S 4 General] Pooheyx:
That's interesting. So if what you say is true, then if I buy let's say a HP PC with Windows pre-installed and reformat and install Linux - all hardware warranty is gone?

I don't think so...
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
I'm not saying anything.

I just highlighted the main idea.

I don't like it, you don't like it, but this is the standard policy for all the OEMs of mobile devices (LG, Sony, Motorola, HTC, etc).

Always was so.

Why do you think triangle away appeared?

It's not right, it's an abuse, but if nobody does nothing, things will remain the same.
[Galaxy S 4 General] meatmeat:
Yes, Samsung is taking a behaviour of a dominant firm, limiting more and more the consumer.

Probably my next phone will not be Samsung.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Cool, so why don't we make a mega thread here on xda / reddit / Facebook / whatever, with thousands of signatures, in which we ask that once and for all to be publically, officially stated, put in a law and in all EULAs that rooting and changing the original OS does not invalidate the warranty (similar to the pc world)?

Also the possibility to get back to that original pre-installed OS (for ex, once knox tripped you cannot get to use knox anymore. This is bull****)

Then draw the public, mass-media attention to this, get huge awareness (articles on Internet/newspapers, TV reports (remember that Chinese TV reportage after which Samsung backed down?) etc), get this discussed by the EU Council, FCC/? so to get this resolved favorable.

Huh...? :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vessina:
Nice!! Count on me!!

First do a mega tread here and post some initiative plataforms to begin with that.. Think we are being that 1% that samsung enterprise security knox project is f***ing the correct measurement of our devices..
[Galaxy S 4 General] jonboyuk:
The other way is to gain some attention of the press...not sure if they would be interested, but might help fan some flames ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] khching:
So I have not broken my eFuse but I have a question.

Can you Add SU to the phone without breaking the eFuse?

here is how my phone was before the 4.3

4.2.2

Completely Stock, except;

Super User, Unlocked

Device Status: Custom

After Update (through Samsung Kies)

4.3 Knox 0x0

Completely Stock

Unlocked

Device Status: Custom

Essentially I lost SU. But I want SU as I have a few Apps that require SU.

Eg. Titanium, etc...
[Galaxy S 4 General] mikejones13:
OK so a little update to my earlier post. ... I found out I'm getting an S4 and note (I would imagine it's a note 3) for at&t and t mobile lol I have sprint. So basically I was told the phones will be pre activated with Knox already configured and all I have to do is open the box and mess with it. Tinker with it, root it try to hack it any way possible and just use it. So my goal is to get as much info as possible., I should have the devices in hand tomorrow......
[Galaxy S 4 General] rgshah3:
Try downloading Su from the plsy store and try since your status is custom
[Galaxy S 4 General] testadeferro:
Who starts a good fundamented petition here on xda?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Pooheyx:
If you are not saying it - who is? I see it's quoteed.

Within EU, in any warranty dispute like this, Samsung must prove that the cusom binary you installed destroyed your phones hardware in some way. If they can't, they must accept to repair or replace it. If it's a software brick, they can charge you for shipping and the service for reflashing to get your phone software unbricked again.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
I think we should ask a mod or a person who have done such things before.

I know there are many intelligent people here whom can make a solid case to which we can adhere.

And if enough people jump in, this problem will surely get the attention it deserves.

Again, you talk about the ideal situation. The harsh reality is different.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
Eu law dictates that not a ideal world this one. Although to get samsung to accept it may not be as easy as you think
[Galaxy S 4 General] Pooheyx:
Yes, I totally agree. But this applies to almost everything.

Hmm, I'll check with the shop where I bought the phone about the Knox flag. Most likely they don't have a clue on what that is...

Life is sometimes tough...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vessina:
Yes but samsung, google, apple,etc.. must dont forget that this underground comunity and its developers, had been a lot of ideas that today they have implemented in their new devices and fws..

If they close this dual symbiosis, a great part off this progress will be ****ed.. A great lost for us and developers who have spend a lot off time and money in this awesome, funny and gratificant project.. For nothing? :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
There's no law saying rooting is legal and should not void warranty.

You probably heard this mumbo-jumbo on the Internet.. It's all based on a loose interpretation of a EU Directive from 1999 !! which was already too general and which as a directive was to be implemented by each state in it's own judicial system.

And that each law must be interpretated in that each country in a way which would imply rooting and custom OSs for mobile phones/etc are okey and will not void the hardware warranty.

It's a new territory, a new subject and as such it doesn't have it's own legal support.

Until now I haven't heard about any specific regulations about this matter across EU.

I've heard about cases (2-3) won in court! (much money, good lawyers, open minded judges) on this very matter but don't get your hopes up, this is nothing. Hadn't gained any traction.

This must be changed and for this reason I proposed a public petition which with the help of mass-media could get the attention it deserves and eventually will change this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rgshah3:
Is kingo working on i9500?
[Galaxy S 4 General] smalis:
Can you please provide a link to the safestrap you installed? Is it the one in the SG4 Active forum? I also just boufht an SGH-1337 on M3 and have rooted, and would like to install safestrap, but have not found one that specifically says it works on this phone. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 General] malybru:
Hi,

Try looking HERE

:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] smalis:
Thanks, dude!
[Galaxy S 4 General] mahmoud007:
knox

guys !!

i discovered an amazing thing about the Official Rom from Samsung :D

i have an official S3 Rom ... and i was about to delete it till i got some crazy idea to open the MD5 and see whats going on in there

and walla !! everything was there ... Bootloader ,rom , phone file and CSC file !!!

there all in the same freaking MD5 :good:

so i stole my dads S3 :P and i made final test on ... i put the same file in the odin holes bootloader, PDA , Phone , CSC

it was completely success ... and even the kies recognize the device ... after it been rooted by the CF-ROOT way :laugh::laugh:

now its completely original !!!

i didnt tested it on my S4 because its already reached the warranty company :rolleyes:

i hope that will cheer up some people and give them hope about breaking knox :good: :good:

Note:

if someone tried this way on S4 i9505 please let me know what happened

---------- Post added at 08:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ----------

i see counter still 2 on s3 -_- but maybe knox warrant is not normal counter .. as i understand it checks that everything goes by knox standard before give 0x1 in my guess if something did changed in the standards :/

i start to blabing
[Galaxy S 4 General] rgshah3:
Any luck?
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
Yes we just need to remove the hw lock on the boot loader
[Galaxy S 4 General] arleybarros:
Is there any solution to the wifi problem related to knox?

i heave a 0x1 device and no wifi at all.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
Im sure the wifi bug is due to mismatched bootloader to rom
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Maybe we'll have some luck and they'll say rooting does not void the warranty.

Then most of the problems would be resolved.

(And also Samsung would gain a huge boost in popularity)
[Galaxy S 4 General] arleybarros:
Is possible to heave mismatched bootloader when you revert to a full stock rom?
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
I had the same problem a week ago.

I just flashed the matching modem 3 times or something.. (there's a guide on xda about this ;) )
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
If your bootloader is newer than the rom 4.3 bl 4.2 rom etc

EDIT try bungadudu's method
[Galaxy S 4 General] arleybarros:
i heave 4.3 BL and 4.3 rom (stock) and no wifi.

-Binary: samsung oficial

-System status: Oficial

Knox warranty void 0x1
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
Try bungadudus method.
[Galaxy S 4 General] arleybarros:
Cant find this method.
[Galaxy S 4 General] testadeferro:
There's also nowhere written that is ilegal. The law is as you say implemented in every country different. In mine for good the law states that on the first 6 months there's nothing the manufacturer can claim. If a defect comes up its without doubt a factory defect and you don't need to proof nothing. After that they can claim everything. But they have to proof clearly that you damaged it. But in this case I don't think they will have am happy end in court if you claim they put am e fuse on your phone that causes damage by itself. And not completely proved yet the se Linux can spy your phone and you don't have information on that. And last you never saw when you bought the phone nor inside or outside the box what knox does to your phone. More the EUA was nor inside or outside the box to be read before you buy. This are enough examples that you can easily claim in Europe to beat them even without a lawyer in court...

And don´t forgett, warranty is not between you and samsung, mostly is between you and the seller, and you have many leaks in the law where you can brech the contract if the phone don´t work as expected.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kpsr_007:
Help Binary count

HI,

I flashed pre rooted firmware 4.2.2 using ODIN on my Samsung I-9500 4.2.2. Then the status is remain same

Binary : Samsung Official

System : Official.

Then I installed Wanam apk to modify the UI, It asked me to download Xposed framework I grant Super user permission. Once It completed I checked the status

Binary : Samsung Official

System : Custom.

I flashed stock firmware 4.2.2 and did the reset factory reset. Then it changed to

Binary : Samsung Official

System : Official.

My question, Is the hidden binary count or knox counter triggered or not ?

If I updated to stock 4.3 Is the Knox Warranty bit 0x0 or 0x1 ?

Please help me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
KNOX comes with 4.3.You're using 4.2 so you have old bootloader which is including old binary counter.Seems like all options set to official :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] kpsr_007:
My actual doubt is Knox Warranty bit ? is it going to change 0x1 or still remain 0x0
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mittaa:
KNOX will turn to 0x1 if your on 4.3 firmware and flash custom recovery or root !

If you stay on firmware with old bootloader (4.2) you can keep KNOX 0x0.

If you flash totally stock 4.3 and stay totally stock non-rooted ... your should be safe too (I don't know what happens if your rooted and then flash 4.3 !).

Personally i,m tired of Samsung and happy about CyanogenMod 11 firmware. No bloatware and KNOX 0x0 forever :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] [opensys]:
If you have rooted the device...

in /system/build.prop

change:

ro.securestorage.support=true to ro.securestorage.support=false.

this will fix wifi problems.

You may try to flash new radio.

All radio bands revisions:

http://d-h.st/users/DjeMBeY/?fld_id=15780#files
[Galaxy S 4 General] mrgold2505:
I was in XXUDMH8 with 4.2.2 after root and cf auto and flash Pure-Google-pre-rooted-odexed-4.4.2-v2.2.zip my knos was triped......??????Any ideas?????
[Galaxy S 4 General] acid123:
If your rooted and flash a stock 4.3 it trips know on the note 3,

Same thing happened to my s4,

But got it fixed through samsung cause of the wifi,

I'm in the UK and had my phone repaired even though it Was know 0.1 and my mate also got is note 3 repaired
[Galaxy S 4 General] mrgold2505:
I am in the UK too. But I get upset because someone told me that's was ok to flash
[Galaxy S 4 General] mikejones13:
Not yet. Phones were shipped out yesterday so I have to get them by Friday because I have a conference call with the developers from Samsung and our mdm developers. I did just finish 2 full 12 hr Days of training with 1 of only 10 Samsung solutions architect/experts that works closely with the STA knox development team. I did find out Samsung does create custom Roms. They have an office in Europe that will create a custom rom for any device. And if my school would like they can setup a meeting with them to discuss a custom OS just for our needs. Samsung is still working on their own OS Tinzen and is making plans on bringing it out to the masses in a couple of months. So I'm going to schedule a meeting after the new year with them to get the details...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Bejda:
No,knox bootloader appeared since around MH1 or at least for sure MH8 4.2 firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 General] timberwolf60:
Knox firmware started on i9505xxDmgg on 4.2.2 rom. I9505xxuEmj5 was 4.3 knox.

I9505xxuBmea was none knox 4.2.2.

Remember the D and E were knox firmwares where B was firmwares without knox.

So your firmware was knox enable and will trip knox 0x1 when rooted.
[Galaxy S 4 General] loomis:
I check with Samsung today and I got the reply:

:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] xebato:
And ofcourse the knox 0x1 might be cecause of rooting then the warrenty is voided :D​
[Galaxy S 4 General] kris_92fr:
Knox Warranty Void is a real problem not only for the Warranty, but also for the flash ROM

Currently there is still no reliable and safe solutions : (: (: (

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 General] bungadudu:
Solution for what?

You can flash whatever you want. You just lose the warranty and can't get back to use knox anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kris_92fr:
sorry I meant

Currently there is still no reliable and safe way to get around during the KNOX Root

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 General] rsndetre:
That doesn't sound very reassuring. It's more like saying indirectly that it does void the warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hagster:
Many ppl got 0x1 when update to 4.3
[Galaxy S 4 General] TheEgonSpengler:
Abs, read HTC one official page on the unlock faq.

Your warranty doesn't cover you when you break things via flashing a rom or mucking with the low level things you shouldn't.

Otherwise you have a normal warranty.

I'm sure there are cracks to fall in but that is 100x better than 0 warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewok666:
I had an unlocked bootloader on my One X and they (HTC UK) replaced the faulty screen no questions asked!
[Galaxy S 4 General] jd1812:
[MENTION=2142488]Absolon[/MENTION]

I think you really need to visit the doctor
[Galaxy S 4 General] maw:
I didn't root my device, had the original 4.1.2. ROM on it, then installed the released 4.3 ROM and installed it via sideload, and this now tripped my KNOX counter to 0x1 eventhough all were original firmware. This confirms that KNOX gets triggered if you sideload using Odin and not updating via OTA. This sucks!
[Galaxy S 4 General] testadeferro:
No. The man is fully right. And please no personal insults. This is xda remember. You can't agree with others opinions but you have to respect them.
[Galaxy S 4 General] IberianPrince:
I have to say, the only reason I keep coming back to this thread is to read your messages. You're brilliant, a little odd, a little bit genius, just fantastic reading lol. Please carry on your fight with Samsung, for all of us that has suffered.

And, as a little side issue, write a book on it. I would definitely pay money to read more of your stuff! ?

Sent from my HTC One/Nexus 7 (Sold my Knox Pox S4)
[Galaxy S 4 General] testadeferro:
[MENTION=2142488]Absolon[/MENTION] you are a brilliant writer maybe would make sense to write a petition here in Xda and send it to Samsung. I think starting a thread with a petition and send it then to Samsung with our claims would be far better then we all stay here discussing this only between us. I think we have enough people here to make our claim. Please go ahead! I'm with you!
[Galaxy S 4 General] meatmeat:
Me too

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[Galaxy S 4 General] JoeyLe:
I'm sorry if this has been discussed before: I've used the search function but couldn't find anything about the Note 3 in this thread. Why is it possible to root the Note 3 without tripping Knox but not on the Galaxy S4, I assume they use a similar system? http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/14...-released-doesnt-affect-knox-security-status/

Will this be possible on the S4 in the future (then I will wait with rooting my phone)?
[Galaxy S 4 General] tripartist1:
I'm in... I buy Android for freedom, not to be torn between roms and warranty fraud... Just saying.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SeaFargo:
No, I'm not a Samsung employee, Absolon. I'm a graphic designer and I work just for myself.

But I do not understand why you are saying "you are unique, in thinking this is ok". What you mean? "this is ok" what??

I agree and encourage rooting, using Odin and I believe rooting is not a crime at all. If I buy an hardware, it's mine! I want all the privilege on it. Just the same as a Desktop PC. Infact I've installed a different OS on my S4, I have Knox flagged and i do not care.

Maybe you have misunderstood my reply.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Michal Z.:
The thing is that it seems that tripping knox to 0x1 is not only about voiding warranty. It affects your device, as Absolonsaid, many users have problems with their phones (dissappearing applications, wifi problems etc). And this is not ok, because we actually do not know what is really happening when knox is tripped (an efuse is burned but what else?).
[Galaxy S 4 General] mahmoud007:
Knox

does anyone has an experience with repairing "knox warranty void 0x1" at Samsung customer service ? :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] gazeddy:
There is anecdotal evidence that note 3 has had a knox reset by samsung but exact details of procedures are less than sketchy
[Galaxy S 4 General] dclarkg:
[MENTION=2142488]Absolon[/MENTION] is right

Personally what bothers me is 2 things:

1- The lack of choice over non knox devices! Samsung HAS (is not an option) to offer THE SAME DEVICES WITH AND WITHOUT KNOX so we get to chose, since it is a ''enterprise'' feature not all users need it or want it. Either they offer non knox devices as well or they should enforce all retailers NOT to void the warranty beacuse of the 0 x 1 (Of course deciding yourself is preferable)

2- Forcing us NOT to mess with Android! Nobody shouldn't have any encryption warranty-blower on a linux based system for god sake, knox sounds like a s**t Microsoft would do. Enforce knox on all devices is a cheap excuse to free themselves from actually care for their customers, the knox flag does not mean that the phone is broken but they treat it as a broken one (and the fault is YOURS). If that is how is gonna be then Samsung stop using Android because if I flash a ROM on my OWN device that i bought with MY money and then 2 weeks later the screen/modem,etc fries I shouldn't be responsible.