yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
You are a liar.
[Android General] CallumMarks77:
nope me being dumb the dev was under research in metion i didnt think :( :L aha oh well got to excited aha
[Android General] Mac of York:
yeah i saw that one under RIM and i was like lol
[Android General] renehd2:
Share it please!!
[Android General] dollarvora:
plz upload the apk
[Android General] CallumMarks77:
what a joke!:L aha all the excitement over the app on here and then i sees it under RIM!!! but then checked the email after installing it i was like oh dear :| :L
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
BlackBerry Limited is the ONLY developer you need to be watching.
[Android General] sinnerz2000:
Its not gonna come out this week as said by blackberry wtf!!! http://blogs.blackberry.com/2013/09/bbm-android-iphone-update/?CPID=SOC_C_WW_TW1379968214
[Android General] dollarvora:
#BBM4ALL update from Andrew Bocking, the head of BBM http://blck.by/16Cn7S6
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
Thanks for that information.
[Android General] kibmcz:
So in short millions of users slamming the servers on a build that had known bugs to cause high traffic load caused this. To block bad meant delaying offical release and updating system/offical release accordingly.

Does that mean that the said millions of users delayed it lol.
[Android General] Tianhe:
BBM for Android and iPhone update – Note from the head of BBM

Posted by Andrew Bocking

Hi Android and iPhone users, This is Andrew Bocking, head of BBM at BlackBerry. As a follow up to our first blog post on Saturday, I want to take a moment to provide you with an update on the rollout of BBM on Android and iPhone.

Last week, an unreleased, older version of the BBM for Android app was posted on numerous file sharing sites. We were aware of an issue with this unreleased version of the BBM for Android app. This older version resulted in volumes of data traffic orders of magnitude higher than normal for each active user and impacted the system in abnormal ways. The version we were planning to release on Saturday addressed these issues, however we could not block users of the unreleased version if we went ahead with the launch. We attempted to address the problems caused by the unreleased version throughout the day on Saturday, but as active users of the unreleased app neared a million – and accelerated – it became clear that the only way to address the issue was to pause the rollout for both Android and iPhone.

The team is now focused on adjusting the system to completely block this unreleased version of the Android app when we go live with the official BBM for Android app. We are also making sure that the system is reinforced to handle this kind of scenario in the future. While this may sound like a simple task – it’s not. This will take some time and I do not anticipate launching this week.

Thank you for your patience while we take the time needed to deliver the experience you expect from BBM. We will continue to provide you with updates here on InsideBlackBerry.com and through [MENTION=1168641]bbm[/MENTION] on Twitter. We will notify everyone who has pre-registered on BBM.com when BBM is available on Android and iPhone.

Andrew Bocking

EVP, BBM
[Android General] sidrocks89:
"I do not anticipate launching this week"

Now I can happily say they can f**k o*f, I'm good without bbm and happy with my whatsapp.
[Android General] ghaleb88:
So, they have developed a BETA version of their app without planning how to kill it in the future? that's a lame excuse... But we'll wait...
[Android General] scoptus:
Excuse me sir, can you give me an explanation for this? Which one is true??? BlackBerry Limited or BLACKBERRY????

Sent from my Ainol Novo 7 Aurora II
[Android General] kibmcz:
It's not their fault tho.. they didn't tell all of you to use a leaked beta. the moment i touched that and removed it 30 minutes later i could tell it had major issues in networking area (constantly reconnecting and insanely high battery drain).

The said battery drain was due to the fact that it had some major bugs yet millions of people kept trying to make it work slamming on the servers... so in the end blame the people who relentlessly tried to make it work (and eventually did for a while).
[Android General] GingaB:
I am glad Blackberry have released a statement over this matter cos I like rest of us have been going crazy waiting for the app! This means we wont have to repeatedly check XDA and BBM Twitter for good news we so badly craved! Time we all went back to normal daily lives! lol
[Android General] epgdurand:
Hi

I still dont understand the reason why they had to stop iphone roll out.

No leak on iOS as I understand.

Both versions ios and android not being tuned and generatingto much events / traffic ... ?
[Android General] sidrocks89:
No point of arguing now.

Not anticipated to be launched this week means next month or not even sure.

This thread should be locked. There's no point of any discussion.
[Android General] scoptus:
Meh,,, okay,,, let it go

Sent from my Ainol Novo 7 Aurora II
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
This developer is fake.
[Android General] scoptus:
Whoooaaa that's good to be true,, faking an app and the email address,, awesome fake developer, ck.. whatever... time to sleep...

Sent from my Ainol Novo 7 Aurora II
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
BlackBerry Limited is the real version. All others are fake. Okay?
[Android General] TheCaesar:
is the end of a long drama, take sit and just watch the extinction of a major companies in this century.
[Android General] Slim Jim Guy:
BlackBerry Limited is disappeared from Google Play.
[Android General] sidrocks89:
From the official statement, I don't know why couldn't they figure out this:

They could have just released the official version in play store and the users could have just updated the app from the play store and the bug could've been gone. Just like we update any other app.
[Android General] epgdurand:
much probably they dont tell us the whole story.

Mostly from this statement we understand that the leak version was not fully optimized and causing server overloading.

they do stop android rollout until they find a way to blok connection of phones using the leak version. Should not be rocket science and should not take that long.

also I still dont get why they also did stopped ios roll out. No leak on ios as i know.

Looks like the issue is bigger than said and probably impacting both android and ios being optimasation of traffic, undersizng of bbm servers or anything else that was only found out and discovered when going livz
[Android General] scoptus:
How come? No more blackberry limited on play store??? sorry being stubborn
[Android General] epgdurand:
yep Mas since a couple of hour
[Android General] TheCaesar:
uhhmm...maybe they need someone porting BBM iOS version to android .apk. -_-
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
The probably removed the other apps, to stop people dowenloasding them too and clogging up their servers.
[Android General] CallumMarks77:
Blackberry's can't send messages to iOS though that'd the bug they have
[Android General] scoptus:
Noted... :)

Sent from my Ainol Novo 7 Aurora II
[Android General] Zehlek:
Since new installations get stuck on seeing up bbm or opening bbm, if I want to change Roms will I get that issue since I'd have to wipe data?
[Android General] ron3000:
no more fake bbm apps in the play store wonder how long this would last lol
[Android General] N_otori0us_:
That bbm link to the market only works for tabs. Just clearing the confusion for some.

Can any tell us the minimum Android version required for that app.
[Android General] NocturnalDroid:
When released then minimum android version will be 4.0, ICS. No gingerbread release
[HTC Desire C] baziex:
hlooo,,, experts,,

i want to change cid in ruu rom,,

i'd extracted 'rom.zip' from ruu .exe file...

but its encripted zip file,, i can't change the CID... :(

anyone know it...??

because, i getting Device ID error when flashing stock rom...

my CID is 'ORANG001'

thanks.
[HTC Desire C] amin-DESIRE-c:
Yes .. i've this problem too..

my CID is Teletstra...
[HTC Desire C] baziex:
hmmm.....

wait for reply from experts.....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] unknown_macuser:
ok,now i not sure which is better.

i hate xda product nowadays because it gave me too much problem

and get me into shxt.

which is a better 3g Pda to get?

1)Orange SPV M5000

2)i-mate JASJAR

3)T-Mobile MDA Pro

Thank u so much/
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] amorette:
AFAIK, it's the same product

image jasjar = spv m5000 = xda pro = exec = HTC Universal
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] unknown_macuser:
tks buddy

trying to get in singapore but cant get it yet.

:)
[Other SmartWatches] kdenilson:
Anyone gets a SWAP EC309 smartwatch ?? I cant find any review at the moment but it has been released already.

But it seems strange that the official website still not yet updated ???

"Product Description

sWaP EC309 Smart Android 4.0 Watch phone 512M + 4GB MTK6517 Android wrist Phone - 2.0M Camera - Wifi - GPS Muti-languag Support

This watch has exceptional functionality. Using a Dual Core 1.2G chip and communicating via 2G/3G network, using the Android 4.0 operating system, you can stay in touch anywhere in the world. It comes complete with WIFI and GPS integration allowing you to surf the internet and use social applications such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Skype, Google Play and more. With a 4G flash drive you'll have plenty of room for the latest games, apps, and playlists that will be accessible to you using touch screen technology."
[Other SmartWatches] |SavageD|:
Interesting, though I can't find any reviews either.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
For that price and those specs, either get the Omate TrueSmart (waterproof and only $199 on kickstarter) or the upcoming Neptune Pine. That's ridiculously priced.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Omate or get the EC309 directly from the manufacturer.
[Other SmartWatches] jimlivingston:
Do you have any experience with the 309? Ali has it for $300.00.
[Other SmartWatches] jimlivingston:
I found a seller offering the 309 for $219. Think it is worth it?
[Other SmartWatches] javaguy44:
@Lokifish Marz you appear to be one of the world's leading expert's on smart watches; I'm curious - is there a watch you would recommend?

I got here from the Omate thread re: CES 2014 where you said the EC309 firmware was better than the Omate's.

I'm looking for the best Android watch that has access to the Google Play store (unofficial or not, I don't care), has accessibility service so I can get notifications and ideally has 1GB of RAM, good battery life etc. I don't care about IP6 waterproof etc. Headphone jack would also be a major plus.

Would love to hear your thoughts....thank you for your time.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
If you could merge the TrueSmart, EC-309 four button model, ZGPAX and the TOQ then I would have the perfect device. (Or update the WIMM One and add a couple of things). If I could be certain the AI Watch existed with the specs listed then that would get a vote too.

My personal recommendation is to wait and see what CES or the devs bring to smartwatches.
[Other SmartWatches] javaguy44:
Thanks...will do. I really want one though! :)
[Other SmartWatches] fibroman:
The ZGPAX could be the best of the bunch, but as of yet, there is no Devs working on it. A custom rom would make this top notch.

If you want to use skype or similar apps for front facing camera, This is the only one thus far. Others have camera's on the side or other weird positions.

Skype works on this, but it does heat up alot with any cpu intensive app.

I have tried the apps that change the cpu such as rom toolbox, MTK6577 CPU governor Switch, etc, but none of the settings (ondemand performance, powersave, or super powersave have done much to lower the overheating problem.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
You guys got BigBison420, didn't do the TWRP recovery. I also can't find any 3G bands listed for it anywhere, just that it has it.
[Other SmartWatches] shaolin95:
Oh yeah, there are no custom ROMs per se but so far I am enjoying this little beast for sure. :highfive:

Not sure about 3G but I was only connecting with 2G when I tried my SIM card with ATT. Didnt play much with it as I only do it when at the Ice Rink and for data I connect to their free wifi so the SIM card is just for calls and MMS at that point. :)
[Other SmartWatches] javaguy44:
@Lokifish Marz now that CES 2014 has gone and passed, would you be able to make a smartwatch recommendation? I didn't see anything really new that runs Android...the Intel one looks interesting but couldn't tell if it is running a proprietary OS or Android.

I'm all ears as to what you think is best at the moment!

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] johnnobts:
got a ec308 and it says its supposed to support 3g bands but can only get 2g with my att sim as well. anyone else been able to get 3g with this thing? false advertising it seems at this point. 2g is only good enough for email
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
ec-308= 2g

ec-309= 2g/3g
[Other SmartWatches] johnnobts:
excuse me, the auction said it was the ec309 watch, but still only letting me register on 2g networks so they obviously sold me the ec308 and advertized falsely... not happy.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
It's not exactly the device's fault. Go after the seller. Was this on ebay where you got it?
[Other SmartWatches] mcmlxxvi:
Ordered mine from chinavasion.com (with comes with 1yr warranty) on 9 Jan and received today! So far so good!

Am whatsapping on mine.
[Other SmartWatches] doc_lee:
Question... Can you sync this watch with a phone at all? i.e. SMS sent to the phone show up on the watch? Also, can you take a phone call through the phone on the watch (watch serving as a bluetooth headset for the phone)? I'm looking for something of a companion device to my phone, but not necessarily a watch that serves as my primary phone.
[Other SmartWatches] mcmlxxvi:
This is a standalone watchphone so it doesnt sync with your phone as a second screen.

Not sure if there are downloadable apps for this.

I tried pairing via bt with my tab 3 7.0 and it could only use the watch as an internet access point.

With a dual core 1.2ghz processor, the watch is no doubt powerful. Youtube videos stream in HD without a glitch. And i suspect you could run pretty intensive games on this thing. But i seriously doubt the 500mah battery could see it thru a couple of hours.

At best this would be adequate as a messenger and voice call notifier kinda device, maybe some push email and calendaring and thats about it. Perhaps the odd google lookup for an address or location.

Will still need another device for decent portable net surfing and entertainment and real work if any.
[Other SmartWatches] sam013:
help

hi I need help I want to purchase a big quantity of the smart mobile watches of android 2.2 and 4.0 like the z1 ec308 and s5 any idea about those ?!! I have bought some from china but its a copy it didn't work on our sim network rules don't allow it must be original brand how can I find such things and original plz if any one have an answer let me know and u can always email me at samakl50@hotmail.com to guide me more about the originality of the android products so I understand it thx﻿ a lot guyz;)
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
bricked

Took me a week to brick it.

I backed up the firmware with SP Flash tool, but I guess I didn't get the first two red partitions.

Anybody have factory ROM?
[Other SmartWatches] kofy:
Someone who has this device can you please tell me, if the Runkeeper app works on it? Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
I ordered an EC309 "TIGON" smartwatch brand new from a Chinese wholesaler who allows you to buy anything from one to as many as you like, with incentives for larger quantities. I was a little uncertain at first, but you can find out how it went on the SmartWatchBooks web site (unfortunately I can't post a link to the specific blog posting).
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
[MENTION=5155993]ioto[/MENTION]ntech, can you or someone else who has one, do a little review of the EC309? I'm tossing up between this one which I can get now fairly cheaply, and waiting for the Truesmart. The EC309 looks great, and there seem to be heaps available, but I just can't find any information, is there something wrong with it?
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
Ec309 "tigon" e-book

[MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION]

I'm working on a short review / user guide e-book for the EC309 TIGON as we speak, and I'll have something ready in the next few days (hopefully for free). I won't be able to post a URL because I'm new here, but a Google search for smartwatchbooks (all one word) should lead you to the right place. Stay tuned.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
It's a nightmare to dev on. I was planning on releasing some stuff for it but backup and dd images all end up corrupt or incomplete. Even simple changes makes it go into fits. If somebody has a working firmware or backup it would be much appreciated.

That aside, if the battery level reporting issue can be resolved, it's a good project platform for something like RC aircraft remote cameras and nearspace data gathering. As a smartwatch I found the band to be a little wide, feels more like a cuff or bracer but true world GSM compatibility is very nice.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Thanks heaps to you both, so Lokifish - sounds like I should order the Truesmart. From hunting around it seems to be the most supported, especially in terms of rom development (mainly by you!). I like the look of the 309, but if it has problems to start with and it's too hard to develop custom roms for, then probably should avoid.
[Other SmartWatches] kofy:
Can you please say some words, if the runkeeper app works on the device. Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Perhaps we have the same idea - I was looking to buy a GPS watch, and found that for a similar price I could get this with not only GPS but Google maps and full phone functions built in. Not expecting to ever get kit kat etc, but it has to be at least functional to start with.

[MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION] : looking forward to your book, let me know when it's complete.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
The (Unofficial) EC309 TIGON / LIGER SmartWatch-SmartPhone (SWaP) Book

[MENTION=4026660]mitchiti[/MENTION]

Okay, so as promised The (Unofficial) EC309 TIGON / LIGER SmartWatch-SmartPhone (SWaP) Book short e-book is now live at the Kindle Store and on Google Play. I had to set a price because Amazon makes you specify at least $0.99 for a Kindle book. I can't post a link here, but you should find it on my web site or by searching.
[Other SmartWatches] slim_thumb:
[MENTION=5706196]lotontech[/MENTION]

Can you tell me the capacity of the watch battery? I think it should be written on the removal battery itself.

I see different sites selling the EC308 / EC309 state different capacities from 320 mAH to 500 and even 600 mAH (eg. Chinavasion). Even Hopu the manufacturer of this watch make different claims from 400 to 600 mAH. Some sites even say that it is a "built in battery" (non-removable?)

Can you also test the battery life of this watch (eg. BT on/off, Wifi on/off, video playing etc.) when you do your review?

The price of this watch has come down a lot since many competitors pop up in the market. I prefer the style of this watch over the ZGPAX.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
thanks [MENTION=5155993]ioto[/MENTION]ntech, your book was good, very informative. I'm a bit concerned about battery life and GPS, for me it really has to last through an easy work day, ie about 10 hours, mobile data on, checking emails, but not really responding much, a couple of short calls and a few quick texts. Any chance it will survive that or am I going to have to recharge at lunch?

And still no luck with GPS? Did you get a warranty with the watch? Might be another interesting test for the Chinese supplier!

Did you try installing another keyboard? I was thinking either Swype or Fleksy might make the experience a little better. How about Runkeeper (even though it's not much use without GPS...)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I've been trying to fix the battery issue for some time. Problem is I still can't get my hands on a copy of the firmware from any vendor. Can't even get it from Hopu. Without it, if a change bootloops or locks up the device and requires a firmware flash, it's done for. The dd images I pulled are either corrupt or incomplete and the MTK Tools backups are useless.

Sad part is it was sent to me at no cost as a dev device.

Now from a battery life standpoint the video playback benchmark was only about 2hrs and the x201 (TrueSmart, etc....) is just over 4hrs. If somebody, ANYBODY has a known working backup or full firmware for the EC309, I might be able to make some progress. I had GPS working well and a couple of other improvements but am stuck at the moment.

To make the decision even harder, the TS firmware has issues as well. I had to pull the ROM and am going to have to try to move all the improvements over to the Patch. It still won't fix core issues like the sensors not working.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
I really like the look of this device, it has all the specs I was after including 850MHz 3G and I can pick one up cheaply tomorrow, but you keep giving me really good reasons not to get it! Sounds like the TS has it's own problems as well..... Thanks again for all the advice, I guess I have some thinking to do!
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
--thanks [MENTION=3017395]Mitic[/MENTION]hi, it was a first stab at an EC309 e-book which I got out quicker than I expected but I'm glad it was some use to you. Feel free to leave a few kind words on Amazon or Google Play ;)

There's a very good chance the battery would last for your working day with mobile data on in the background but you not really doing anything apart from waiting for calls, sending a few texts, and checking your inbox.
[Other SmartWatches] mitchiti:
Already reviewed very favourably on Amazon [MENTION=5155993]ioto[/MENTION]ntech! :good: Would still be interested in non standard keyboards, launchers and run tracking apps if you have a chance?
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
[MENTION=3822682]slim_thumb[/MENTION]

The battery in my EC309 watch is stamped with 500mAH.

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[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION]

Did you do anything clever to get the GPS working on the EC309, or did it work right out of the box? Mine just keeps "Searching for GPS" forever and the GPS Test app doesn't seem to find any satellites whatsoever :( My phone finds them in seconds. Thanks in advance for any advice.

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[MENTION=3017395]Mitic[/MENTION]hi

Google Play reports Runtastic as not compatible with the EC309 device. Runkeeper installs just fine and looks quite nice on the small screen as far as I can tell, but I can't use it until I fix the GPS issue or get a replacement unit :( On the plus side, the guys at the seller in China are very responsive via Live Chat :)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Check section 9 of my [INFO] Everything... thread for the x201. I've been using the same method on both the x201 and the EC309 since day one but kept forgetting to post a guide here.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
Update: mostly unbricked

I found some test points on the brick that got it to respond to usb challenge with the right driver for sp flash tool. Went from black screen no usb response at all to booting recovery, logo, and full memory test. :victory:

Took tests with voltmeter across battery and it went into firmware mode allowing vcom, and also from another test point

Thing is I blew out PRELOADER and DSP_BL, but have good MBR, EBR1, UBOOT, BOOTIMG, RECOVERY, etc and scatter file.

I think I can reliably flash it now if only I had these partitions.