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[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
The rumor is that its actually slightly (by about 1mm) small than the N4. I'm really hoping so too. I wasn't wanting it to be a 5" screen but if they can fit that into a smaller profile, I'm definitely getting it. Judging by the size of the bezel on the N4's top and bottom, this isn't unreasonable.

sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 5 General] LoVeRice:
4gb variant for only 199$ below- then its a day 1 buy for me
[Nexus 5 General] dia_naji:
I love my nexus 4, but upgrading might not happen unless the nexus 5 is ground breaking and really catches my eye and end up buying it the next minute it comes out Which always happens with nexus devices :P
[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
Not going to happen.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
I assume that is some type of joke. My guess is it will start at either 8gb or 16gb. And the cheapest model will be either $300 or $350.
[Nexus 5 General] farangutan:
Love my Nexus 4 and I think it looks better than the leaked images for the Nexus 5. However, my father plans to ditch verizon and I plan to give him my phone and buy the next nexus, unless they restock at the $250 price point. Would make for a great back-up device.
[Nexus 5 General] Atomix86:
:P :P
[Nexus 5 General] AgentCherryColla:
I would upgrade . But I'm very happy with my device. Phones are kinda just bleh now. Its the same old stuff. Specs look good on paper, but at this point in the game. They don't really add anything else. Sure I'd enjoy a true HD screen, and a bigger battery. But its all the same to me. I got a nexus device for the long term support. So I didn't feel the need to upgrade. I'm going to rock my nexus for at least another year. Unless I come across a nexus 5 for crazy cheap.
[Nexus 5 General] severectify:
Yeah, unless the Nexus 5 has some new feature, I won't be upgrading. I'm already underclocking for battery without any signs of performance drop. My 4 will last a long time.
[Nexus 5 General] VekkioLop90:
If my Nexus 4 fall down and breaks I thing I will change it for Nexus 5! :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] Whyzor:
That's the camera autofocus motor working, on Nexus 4 it probably goes from macro (close) range all the way to infinity. Most cameras have a normal mode (faster), and macro mode for close-ups. If you have a camera app that allows 'infinity' focus mode or normal focus mode (not macro), then the "breathing" time should be quicker.
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
Thanks, I'm gonna have to give this app a try.
[Nexus 5 General] Mach3.2:
This got to be a sick joke or something, what you're going to do with 1GB of storage that is not expandable?

Not going to happen I tell ya.

Beamed from my Maguro
[Nexus 5 General] ieatrocks:
So after selling my n4 let's make a wild assumption that the upgrade cost difference is $150 to move to a 16gb n5 over my n4.

What would make it worth the 150 to me?

1080p screen, $5.

snapdragon 800 over snapdragon 600.... $5.

rubber backing, $25 (or plastic or anything aside from the slipperiest surface ever applied to a phone)

non-potato for a camera, $40

2700 mah battery over 2100, $25

LTE, $25

So then, $25 away from day 1 purchase vs waiting on a price drop, and it comes down to the voice listening feature integrated into the 800, if it's an always-on listener like the moto x then this is a no brainer as that alone is a $200 feature to me. I'm constantly yelling at google now in the car to do things for me but I'd prefer to not even have to touch the phone at all. If the nexus brings this with the moto smart profiles so calls in the car are automatically on speakerphone etc... there's no contest.
[Nexus 5 General] Harry GT-S5830:
My upgrade criteria:

-Snapdragon 800 that isn't a sub par binned chip

-Better coloured panel (I can't tell between 720 and 1080p on phones)

-Good camera with features other than pixel count

-Soft touch rubber back

-Toaster

-Coffee maker

-Battery life improved by a worthy margin
[Nexus 5 General] Matteo Mazzu:
Love my Nexus 4, and I'm willing to see what this Nexus 5 will be like :) The things I'm worried about it's battery life. With a Snapdrangon 800 and a 5" fullHD display it sure will need a bigger battery for lasting at list a day! LTE isn't something I really need, H+ is already enough fast for my daily use, and I use more 2G than 3G during the day. A better camera would be a very nice things, the Nexus 4 isn't that great, but not even the worse I've seen till today. Android 4.4 will be upgraded on our Nexus 4, so no big deal (And I'm quiet not sure how much will change from 4.3. It hasn't passed so much time from both! Maybe will be some features of the famous Moto X, witch I'd like to have, but it's only USA sell for now :( ). This is my personal opinion! :D
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
It's true the N4 will get KitKat but there could be features that the new Nexus 5 gets that the N4 doesn't. It could have a feature like the Moto X with always on listening which wouldn't work on the Nexus 4 (without killing the battery). So we will have to wait and see if the new hardware allows different features on KitKat.
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
The s800 is way more efficient than the s4 pro in this device.
[Nexus 5 General] Marcb:
Can't really see a "need" to upgrade... if you put LTE aside, and if it's only a faster processor, larger screen and resolution, then I don't need an update...

The Nexus 4 is already really fast, it's got an up to date really nice processor, 2GB of RAM...

I think it's gonna take more technology evolution to make me switch my Nexus 4 for the Nexus 5... Might aswell jump this one and wait for next year's Nexus...

Let's wait for the Nexus 5 to come out and see what's the real deal...
[Nexus 5 General] biggiestuff:
Battery life is a key for me. Also since the snapdragon has support for usb 3.0, I'm hoping that perhaps like the note 3 the N5 will come with it as well, allowing for faster charging. slightly larger battery + power efficient processor + faster charging would make a huge difference for me.
[Nexus 5 General] obtained:
Well I plan on buying the n5 as soon as it is released, hopefully before it sells out. That will depend on if I have the money at the time, since I just decided to preorder the ps4 before it sells out.
[Nexus 5 General] adrian089:
Coming from a galaxy s2, the only part of the n4 i would really like to see improved is the camera. I found the galaxy s2 camera good, figured a newer N4 would be at least as good. I was mistaken and hadn't realized how much camera quality mattered to me until I switched phones. I've already made up my mind to switch to the n5 when it comes out but I hope it has a plastic back and better camera.

I figure it can't be worse than the N4.
[Nexus 5 General] Shealpi:
I'm already counting down for the release :(
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
we dont even know the release yet..it even hasnt been announced
[Nexus 5 General] Marcb:
If I had to choose, I'd take the PS4 and keep the Nexus 4! :p

Then, maybe later, sell the Nexus 4 and get the Nexus 5... :p
[Nexus 5 General] :
LG again? No, thanks.

Enviado de meu Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
I know, right? Who wants a device that looks as great as the Nexus 4 again...

I've never been a fan of LG in the past, but I've never owned a phone that I feel more proud to display than my N4; even got a case with the clear back to keep it safe and still be able to see "NEXUS" proudly embedded into the back.
[Nexus 5 General] Harry GT-S5830:
Perhaps you'd like another Galaxy Nexus because we all know how great that was...
[Nexus 5 General] nabilfahim:
Dont know what the fuss about LG is. I'm a very content N4 owner

Just need to see what price the new one will be and if its around the same price as the N4. Probably a will buy
[Nexus 5 General] EggosEvo:
After I fell in love with my N4 while owning a Galaxy S4 and finally switching to the Nexus side, I will definitely be buying the Nexus 5 and then sell my S4. Hopefully the N5 has a 32gb option. That would make things even better, as I'd be able to store my music on it rather than carry my S4 around as an MP3 player (although the battery life on CM 10.2 on airplane mode on that thing is phenomenal).
[Nexus 5 General] HarmonyFlame:
I'm definitely getting the nexus 5 still, but anyone who wants to sell their existing nexus 4 pm me :)
[Nexus 5 General] ashkan_mc:
I literally am going to cry if they put a 2300 mAh battery in N5 :crying:
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Even if the battery last much longer than the N4?
[Nexus 5 General] ashkan_mc:
I bet it won't ... 5 inch full HD needs at least a 2600 mAh battery, even with Snapdragon 800 which is greatly optimized.

With a 2300 mAh battery you cannot even imagine playing asphalt airborn with N5 :(
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
Well battery life is determined by user usage than you can't expect to get much battery life when playing highly demanding games like that on ANY phone. My wife owns the note2 and when I play those kinds of games and push the phone I will have to plug in early. Battery life has always been subjective.
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
If kitkat is going to have some battery optimizations then our nexus4 should get a boost in that field too.

If the N5 is really going to have a 2300mAh battery, i don't think it can have a by far superior battery life in comparison to the N4. 1080p, bigger display size, higher CPU clock and LTE (in poor coverage areas) will cancel any advantage the snapdragon 800 SoC provides in terms of better power handling. So, if you ask me, i'd say they (n4 & n5) might have very similar bat. life.
[Nexus 5 General] MrPhilo:
I'll be downclocking it to 1.5Ghz, tbh 2.3Ghz, really? 1.5Ghz is enough to be fair also 2.3Ghz voltage is at around 1000mV< (Anandtech), so I can imagine that 1.5Ghz be 900mV or less due to the new 'nanometer' they are using. Plus if we undervolt and get 1.5Ghz to around 800mV be pretty damn amazing and battery life should be great! Plus they'd be hardly any heat compared to Snapdragon 600 and S4 Pro.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
Luv my N4, but will be all over the N5 like a cheetah on a gazelle! :)

Hopefully Google will have their launch act together compared to last years mess! :mad:
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
I agree. Please make enough so it doesn't run out of stock so fast. Usually I wait for reviews before I buy a phone. I tend to do my research to know what I'm kinda getting into. Then do a hands on in store, malls, or people who may have it that I know. But because of the issues Nexus 4 had with running out so quickly I'm just gonna have to grab the new Nexus first chance I get. If it sucks I can sell it and get something else. I love the Nexus 4 but the camera is killing me. I literally snap pictures everyday or every other day of my children.

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I see a lot of people are looking at it in a "needs bigger battery to last longer" point of view. To me it's about optimization. Maybe a bad stock kernel? Like I said before, I've gotten awesome battery life on my previous GS3's. And those were on Verizon w/LTE. Everybody knows LTE can kill battery. The GS3 only packs a 2100mAh battery. I can see a bigger size battery may help but more importantly they need to optimize it all better on this new Nexus phone.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
You mean everybody who still thinks this is 2010. The new iPhone actually lasts longer on LTE than on HSPA. LTE hardware is becoming much more efficient and the fact that LTE is generally faster means before long all new phones should get better battery life on LTE.
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
Exactly. Everybody knows nothing.

LTE is worse for battery amoled saves power. Judging battery life by mah when moving to a new SoC and a new lower process process as well. Everybody doesn't know a damn thing.
[Nexus 5 General] bmakk2055:
Me 4sho
[Nexus 5 General] nyyankees1237:
LTE is slightly better than HSPA/3G in my experiences. Faster data transfers means less data radio wake locks, thus more battery life.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
Same. I get better battery on LTE than I ever got on hspa+ despite being in a weak LTE area. I posted many of my battery runs in the impression thread, and I consistently did better with LTE.
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
Nahahahaahahhaja but everybody says LTE drains more battery.

I'm glad I see more people than before finally getting fed up with that being repeated. It isn't true and hasn't been true for quite some time. But " everybody" still says it. It's time to start yelling at everybody that says it. From clueless reviewers ( almost all of them) down to users.

Especially the reviewers. They need flamed and scolded for being clueless numbskulls who have no idea about the stuff they are actually covering. Great example is the Apple a7. Durrrr what does that mean? Is Samsung going to respond? Durrrr
[Nexus 5 General] hp13:
I sold my n4 already. :D let's hope they have enough inventory this time around.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
I broke my laptop 'Refresh' key last Google launch! :D They better have their sh#t together this time!
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
And Google broke their Play Store :)

We haven't seen much improvements with the ordering process for Nexus 7 release this year, so I'm sure it will be totally screwed up like always. I really wish Google would spend some effort in fixing their Play Store. Hopefully Google at least can meet the demand with having enough supply this time.
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
I never had HSPA+ until now. From my experience the Verizon LTE killed more battery than being on Wi-Fi or Verizon's 3G. It killed my battery more than Sprints 3G/Sprint's Wi-Max and at&t's 3G as well. All the networks I've been on. I'm still not all the way convinced that Verizon's LTE consumes less battery than 3G or HSPA+ on T-Mobile. It wouldn't take long to see the battery going down by doing simple things like browsing web or watching YouTube videos to see the battery drained. I'm talking about battery life while using the phone. Not when the screen is black. But that's just what I've experienced.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
After reading the 5S review by anandtech I'm probably gonna wait for Nexus 2014.
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
Super Amoled saves power on black colors by not lighting those pixels up. But it's not a significant difference in my experience.
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
Because nobody uses their phone with the screen all black. Even all with a all black image the power it saves is very small. Even if you black out your apps and theme your phone back you still don't end up saving battery over a LCD.

If you pull all the tricks to save power on amoled screen you will still end up with just about the same screen on time as a non amoled screen. And don't you dare turn your brightness up to around 200nits....

There have been devices that are exactly the same minus the screen type. Nexus S for example.

Yet we still to these day always see people say crap like I want x device to have a amoled screen so I can save battery.
[Nexus 5 General] Shark87:
As much as I would love to have the latest and greatest, I think I'm going to stick with the N4 until it bits the dust.
[Nexus 5 General] ben_pyett:
the LTE hack only work in limited few areas and setting up a new phone is trivial process if your rooted

Accidental thanks
[Nexus 5 General] strifej:
If you're in North America where Google subsidizes it, it makes most sense to buy the phone as soon as it comes out. The price is going to stay flat until they discount to clear inventory next year around this time. Unlike flagship phones where it's released at a really high price and slowly devalues, there will be no price drop on a new one. So, the earlier the buy, the longer a period of time you can amortize your fixed purchase price.

I just got the 16GB N4 a few weeks back after the sale, but I'll prob. buy the N5 anyways and keep the N4 as a backup for the family when traveling since it's great as a world phone.
[Nexus 5 General] alen1901:
Screw samoled. Im sick of that oversaturated (popped) colors and burn-ins. Also, who need screen to be all black and to be scared to get burn-in if there is bright UI etc, especially on blue colors. LCD is nowdays really great and battery difference is not that much different but you can enjoy in nice colors and colorful UI/apps without to be scared of annoying burn. :D
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Also forgot that the G2 has the display ram feature, if we could have that as well I would be very happy since that really can make a big difference :).
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
I also prefer IPS/LCD displays. Super Amoled is cool but at times things don't look crisp/clean. The main thing that bothered me about my past devices w/super amoled displays was they were horrible in sunlight. Being at BBQ's or trying to read a text sitting in my car (not while driving), even with brightness on full it was still bad. I don't have that problem anymore with my Nexus 4.

What I really like though is that my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (2013) both get really bright if I need to turn them up all the way. Something I find missing when I played with the HTC One. The brightness could be better on that phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
The Xposed Framework has a module for this. It shows the RAM in the recent apps page, and can also add a "close all" button. I just started playing with it last night but it does some neat things.

sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 5 General] junglebungle:
Love the nexus 4 with Franco kernel and adjusted colour settings... Really rich colours and deep blacks.. I love LCD.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
The person you quoted is talking about GRAM, it lowers consumption by up to 10%. Xposed cannot emulate GRAM, that is not a capability of this device.
[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
My bad, I just thought he was talking about showing the currently used RAM. I'm just going to go back to lurking when people are talking about things over my head.

sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
I'm confused. Are you talking about a particular phone? Does your experience include nothing but new phones? Newer phones most certainly have better battery life on LTE. Take the iPhone. It gets 2 more hours of internet use on LTE. It is a misconception that LTE causes more battery drain because the first and second generation LTE devices did drain more battery. But that is no longer the case.
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Ha, no worries... the displaying ram in recents is a nice touch mind and I do love seeing that I am using like 1.2gb of ram!

GRAM is definitely the future though :)
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
I was just speaking on my experience with LTE & battery life from the phones that I've had. The GS3 isn't really "new" anymore but that was the last LTE phone I've had. But I did have the iPhone 5 for a bit as well. But it's good to hear if the newer phones do get better battery life with LTE. Makes me more excited for new phones to come. I'm glad T-Mobile has LTE out here where I live. Unlimited Data + LTE = WINNING
[Nexus 5 General] AlexMike:
Google Play Store

Hi all!

Do you think that when the N5 arrives they'll stop delivering the N4?

For example, in South Korea, when Nexus 7.2 (2013) arrived the previous version, Nexus 7 (2012) was no longer available.

What is your input on this ? :)

Thanks.
[Nexus 5 General] baiju2012:
This has been the pattern in USA too.

Nexus IV
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
The n4 already sold out x) and Nestle is hyping up October something awesome is coming...I wonder what.... :3
[Nexus 5 General] user822:
I think that the pictures of the Nexus 5 just look a lot uglier than my Nexus 4.

Lots of people were unhappy with the glass back - but I take care of my phone it just looks very noble with glass+the silver dots.

Also the camera looks quite disturbing to me in the uniform back side. And the font orientation looks just wrong to me.

That is my personaly oppinion, so I would not even switch my phone against it for free, no matter the technical specs.
[Nexus 5 General] Mainak Roy:
I share the same opinion
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
I think most people won't mind the big camera lens if a Nexus phone finally has a good camera for once.
[Nexus 5 General] user822:
True - the camera quality is a little disappointing!
[Nexus 5 General] bodom_hc:
2300mah battery is very disappointing if that what it ends up coming with!
[Nexus 5 General] sudoeste:
Is it very disappointing why? Do you prefer a phone with 3000mah with 5h screen on time or a 2300mah with 6h?

Look at what happened with the nexus 7 II, less mah more battery life

Enviado do meu W100
[Nexus 5 General] monkeypaws:
Agree. People don't look at how it all works together. Just see specs and make assumptions.
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Dont understand this logic... Compare it to the G2 as that has a 3000mAh battery with a 5.2" screen, hopefully the only difference is the 4.96" screen because that would be the only major difference so I dont see how a 2300mAh battery is going to compete with its larger sibling as they have the same hardware undearneath. Providing rumours and leaks are true of course :D.

Comparing it to the N4 I agree to some extent but I see alot of people saying that KitKat will bring with it the power efficiency improvements which is a moot point as the N4 will also have KitKat... so hmm.
[Nexus 5 General] elnitrox:
please LG make a 32gb and up nexus

thats the only thing that stop me buying n4

coz i have already the galaxy nexus

and 16gb is just nothin

specs dont really matter

storage is a big deal

asphalt 8 almost 2gb
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
Don't forget the G2 isn't using vanilla. If you give it stock the battery performance will increase since the optimus Ui is more bloated than touch wiz 5.
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Thats a good point although I dont think its as bad as touch wiz... last time I used LG UI it was very nice :P but yes you would think a stock experience would improve battery life but still it would be nice to have a similar sized battery :)
[Nexus 5 General] albundy2010:
It doesn't need to compete with its larger sibling.

You don't need to be at the top of the battery life food chain like the g2 currently is. It is up there with the very best in terms of battery life

We won't know until it's tested and if the Nexus 5 has the entire platform the g2 has with the gram... Even without knowing that there is enough info. 3/4th of the battery life that the g2 gets is more than enough.

Oh no my phone only gets 6 plus hrs of screen on time easy ..... And some other phone gets more... It can't compete...
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Well I struggle to get a day out of my N4 now with Google Now (no location types on!) hangouts syncing 3 Gmail accounts and a bit of web browsing in a relatively strong signal area.... I end up with < 2 hours on screen time! I dont do anything intensive but I want to be able to get 2 days out of the N5 with some form of positioning enabled then I would be very happy :P.

Of course we wont know till its tested, pure speculation but I like speculating haha. I side with the more battery > thinner phone like the motorola max editions were nice :). If its very close to the G2 I would be satisfied as its one of the main reasons for me contemplating the upgrade as its such a tiny amount of money to do so.

October will be interesting!
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
Not gonna lie but I'm gonna upgrade for the same reason iphone users upgrade from 4-4s just because it's a newer x)
[Nexus 5 General] Cjshino:
No I think I'll stick with my N4 for awhile since its still very good. I see no point in upgrading unless it has super awesome specs and depends on the price.
[Nexus 5 General] ibrahim54:
Nexus4

Same here, plenty of ROMs to flash yet......it would be months b4 considering N5:good:
[Nexus 5 General] Smallsmx3:
I think I'll wait until the nexus is 64 bit. Doesn't make sense to upgrade for slightly better specs....and since it seems like Google is trying to make newer versions of android available for older devices I'm sure the nexus 4 will hold its own for quite some time