yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Interesting. Were you able to do things like fastboot and mythtools through the MTP connection? In my case (and others reported) MTP worked for file access but we could not run tools that require ADB through it - they don't' recognize the device until switched to PTP.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I just booted to fastboot and connected fine to RSDLite 6.1.5 , but that is not what you are talking about.

What are you using beside Myth to try to fastboot when phone is up and connected?

(I'm using "fastboot devices" but I don't get a device in any case...)

(( unless I boot to fastboot - then I get the device name ))
[Motorola Atrix HD] Arjomer:
It worked perfectly the first time I tried and after that it didn't work anymore lol. Weird .
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I was putting the cart before the horse (or was just wrong) by saying ADB was not working. It was USB Debugging that was not working, which is why ADB did not work. I don't do much with mythtools etc except to test access after ROM installs and once or twice flash Philz. I do frequently use MyPhoneExplorer but usually via WiFi which does not require debugging. The first time I had to change from MTP to PTP was when testing AOSB but the seeds of the problem may have been planted during previous ROM tests as I had slammed through several chasing my precious spell check. :)

I see that behaviour you describe about fastboot (no access unless phone is in fastboot mode) when things are running properly.
[Motorola Atrix HD] laofan:
Just try fastboot. Could not find device in MTP mode. Swith to PTP mode and could boot into bootloader.

But it makes not difference to me. I don't have to use ADB all the time. For daily usage MTP works perfect for me.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
yep, with Android Debugging checked, in Win7 Device Mgr, I only get an adb interface when Camera is checked - NOT when Media device is checked.

With debugging and camera checked, and adb interface present, I still cannot get a response from fastboot devices, and RSDLite shows nothing, so I wouldn't be able to use it for anything other than just USB data transfer.

Is it supposed to? I'll have to restore a few others and see. I always booted to fastboot when I need to do that...
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
yes - restored validus 5.1 and it did give an adb interface for both connection types.

Back to 1.3.4 : set to media: no(did not find device) set to camera: yes to following script (a piece of Myth Tools):

echo [*]
adb kill-server
echo.
echo [*] Waiting for device...
adb wait-for-device
echo.
echo [*] Device found.
echo.
echo [*] Boot to fastboot mode...
adb reboot-bootloader
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for confirming, and for that script example of a workaround. I too did not see this in Validus 5.1/5.2, or for that matter, PacMan or CyanogenMod 11 (my new steady until and if next version of validus has it's font size issue fixed or I find a workaround for that).
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Is that epinter's 1-30-14 one? or do you have a later one? (oh, I see - 6-28 )
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Latest Snapshot of unified version. cm-11-20140609-SNAPSHOT-M7-moto_msm8960. I think dev stopped in the MB886 device specific version a few months ago.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Is there a decent forum for that? I can only find http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/875-motorola-atrix-hd-mb886/ - Cause we shouldn't be using this forum for that! :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Point taken about discussing other ROMS here although a part of what we're all doing is comparing them so some of that is likely. AOSB still has my favorite combination of performance, features and aesthetics but none have matched CM's stability and bug-free-ness.

XDA Forum for CM 8960 - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2735565

CM blog - http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/last-week-in-cm-jun-19-2014

CM nightly additions changelist - http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960/

Will definitely try next version of AOSB if...

<Edit> Realized that dev continued for other phones but not for MB886. So it goes. I that case I may chase the spell check issue (which may be keyboard app and gapps related). If I can fix that I'll keep running with AOSB 1.3.3 for a while.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
1.3.6 is out at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/probam/files/mb886/aosb_kk_1.3.6_mb886.zip/download
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Wahooo! Coincidentally just did a full backup and am ready to check this out. I can find a suitable gapps but is there one you would recommend?
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I use PA GAPPS - at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942

I use "Micro", but I delete the chrome backup and calendar apps.

EDIT: I do not yet know if 1.3.6 is 444 or 443... EDIT: it reports itself as 444

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Huge thanks for all this!!!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
1.3.6 I got no gps
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
Confirmed that, no gps. also not able to change to art. now I reverted back to 1.3.4.
[Motorola Atrix HD] codexc:
Try GPS optimizer from settings - interface

Try to change kernel , this build android 4.4.4

Sent from ProBAM
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
In 1.3.6 MTP/PTP seems to be sorted out but it still has spell check glitch. Verified this time before installing any gapps and after installing stock gapps (which replaces aosp keyboard). Could this be caused by some persistent data in a place not cleared by Philz options: Clean to install new ROM, Clear system cache, and Clear Dalvik cache?

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You're welcome. A bit of web research in exchange for free phone operating systems and helpful advice? I'll take that trade ;)

As to gapps; Having tried Micro before, this time I tried no gapps and stock gapps but still no success with spiallcheairck, I mean spellcheck
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
Tried that and it didnt work. I downloaded GPS Test app and it shows GPS is off (I already chosen all 3 settings for location).
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Same here. Also tested with Tasker and Secure settings. No errors when they trying to turn GPS on/off but GPS never seems to be on. Apps see it as Off as does Tasker GPS Status variable.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
LOL - that's definitely me and typing!!! :D

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Yes, I tried 3 different gps apps and they all said gps was off and I should turn it on...

gps.conf is missing in system

from nightly cm11 to aosb1.3.6, I added:

system/lib/hw/gps.msm8960.so

system/etc/gps.conf

but gps still no go.

there are a bunch of gps items in 1.3.4, NOT in 1.3.6
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Clever trick. I wonder if it would work if the source of the replacement material was an MB886 device specific ROM (as AOSB seems to be) rather than a unified 8960 ROM - Not that I have any technologically sound reason for suggesting that. Also, Codex did mention trying different kernel. I wonder if anyone has tried that. These tweaks are bit outside my present knowledge and comfort level so I'll stay on the sidelines for a bit. Rah, rah, rah, go, team, go!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I made another try with

1.3.4 to 1.3.6

system/etc/gps.conf

system/lib/libgps.utils.so

system/lib/hw/gps.msm8960.so

but no go. I'll abandon it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
I think codexc needs to make this rom unified. Less bugs building up. Plus more users
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks again and, oh well.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Remember that this is a Eurpoean/Middle East based ROM and their needs will come first. I don't know how well a unified moto fits for them. I also remember I had to drop <a current popular build> because of a (imho) poor implementation of unified moto. I support [MENTION=2324589]codexc[/MENTION] in whatever direction he chooses.
[Motorola Atrix HD] codexc:
if there unified moto device tree , we will compile it today guys

sorry for this problem
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Along those lines, I was wondering if the spell check issue could be region or language related... although that one happens in a variety of ROMS.

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... and what a horrible problem it has been; to be able to use your ROM (and others) to practice, and transfer desktop support experience to android phones. BTW that was sarcasm :) Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
I'm using PA micro gapps on the 1.3.6 and somehow the google play services kept running in the background eating the battery. no wonder my phone feels warm whenever I pick it up. Anyone else has issues with battery on 1.3.6 or PA gapps?

Found this app - Disable Service. Now I can disable any google service that I dont really use.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I had AOSB 1.3.6 with PA Micro gapps installed but not for long enough to gauge battery life beyond the busy period after a fresh build. One of the first things I do is take the phone off line and disable anything that auto updates, particularly Google play store. Interestingly, the day after I abandoned that test and restored a backup of Cyanogenmod 11 (which I had been using quite happily for a few weeks) I noticed the phone was using more battery and not spending the usual amount of time in deep sleep until after a reboot. I found partial wakelocks from google services in the mix. I actually suspect a known 8MS issue before Google services in my case but, could a programmed change in google services cause such a battery drain across different ROMS without an obvious update to the Google Playstore app? That's a stretch, but I figured I'd throw it out there.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I run My Data Manager so I can see who is using what, and I run Android Firewall and allow google play to use data only on wifi. Google likes to spawn lots of services that it doesn't tell you about. But they can't really do anything if they can't use data. I started this back when I had a carrier with very limited data, but continue it now. I find it much easier than freezing things as I often forgot what I had frozen when i needed to use GP. And you have to be careful what services you stop as other things will stop working.

I did work some more on the gps issue after finding a unified build of this era (444) with gps problems - lock to gps in a working rom and then, with it locked, boot to recovery and flash. I even flashed dirty, but no go (I had also heard that problem/solution from a previous phone/rom). Either google or CM likely screwed up and so the devs get bad stuff.

Yeah on Cm11, though I abandoned it because I find I simply like the lockscreen notification bars - LOL - so I'm running 1.3.4aosb - easier to use.

There is no kernel of 4.4.4 as far as I can see (for mb886 or msm8960). 444 is almost bleeding edge.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for the research, info and GPS testing. I'm hoping that the battery drain is a Google issue to be fixed rather than a Cyanogenmod issue that may be left behind with focus now on the jump to the new boot-loader... or that my precious spell check is fixed in AOSB :) though that may be unlikely at this point.

More about the battery dilly-o: Using Better Battery Stats I found that SystemUpdateService (as part of Google Play and Google Services Framework) is keeping the phone wakelocked. The problem starts any time I go on-line, and the only way to rectify it (temporarily) is to stop the Google Services Framework app. Sometime a using the Disable Service app to enable/disable SystemUpdateService gives a temporary fix. This seems to have started a few days ago during a wave of updates to things Google...I think. Will test for this in AOSB in a couple of days to see if it is purely a Google issue.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I found Settings/Display/Daydream keeps mine awake, so I routinely shut it off when I am doing an install.

EDIT: I also always set Play/settings to never update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mega_man:
AOSB is our only hope now cuz all moto unified builds have ended support for atrix hd cuz of kk bootloader :(
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Dunno...

AP Fastboot Flash Mode (S)
10.9B(*) (sha-2e68372, 2012-11-17 23:33:08)
eMMC Info: Size 8GB

Device is UNLOCKED, Status Code: 3

did CM11 maybe put the KK bootloaders on?

Or does this only apply to what STOCK has done and STOCK upgrades, BEFORE we unlock it?
[Motorola Atrix HD] idontkn1:
If you could squat down and record that on an R2 unit that would be priceless.
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
My screen says the same thing except mine is dated 2014-04-29 00:05:29.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Yes, mostly.

Until the MB886 KK update comes along and then someone provides a way to use that like they did for the Moto XT926.

Until then we can use CM11 BEFORE July 1,

AOSB 1.3.4 and priors, and maybe 1.3.7 ... ,

probably Validus 5.1 and 5.2,

etc.

So, yeah, it would be wise NOT to grab a zip that needs the new bootloaders and try to flash it to your MB886!
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Good advice indeed.

One thing that may confuse the issue for those researching it is that some ROMs seem to have incorporated KK4.4.4 code and version # before switching the bootloader - if I understand this correctly.

Validus 5.1 and 5.2 both worked on my phone although 5.2 was a bit buggy. Also, TecknoFreak posted few hours ago that Validus may stay on JB bootloader until an official update, though I wont believe there will be an official update till I see it. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53890960&postcount=566

As for CM snapshot M7 which is experiencing Google Services Framework wake-lock issues; I think (but lost track of the source) an exception to the CM timeline is that CM Snapshot 8, coming out soon, may still be on JB bootloader.

Those chasing the Google Services wakelock issue in CM (I don't know if this affects other ROMS) and need a JB bootloader might also try the CM 6/29/14 nightly - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53867334&postcount=16

AOSB 1.3.3 has been my favorite combination of candy and performance but... yada, yada, yada, spellcheck.

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This seems to be an emerging issue. thought it was just with CM but apparently not.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2799210

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ROAR :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
I think this is the first time I see Google services having such wake up time
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
That seems more extreme than just a wakelock but I suppose the effect could be different in various configurations. When experiencing the Google Services wakelock problem my phone was using 2-3% battery per hour overnight (when it usually uses less than 1% battery per hour) but I did not see it in the battery graph. It wasnt a high battery user - it was just keeping the phone awake.

I saw a similar round of this with some Google service or app that was actually spiking processor usage about a year ago in stock JB 4.1.1 before I unlocked/rooted. It was fixed in a later update.

This time around a change in Google Play Services apparently requires, or at least can be rectified by, a change in the ROM. Something about the way Google split the services in the jump from 4.x to 5.x.
[Motorola Atrix HD] pijes:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/nexus/k46KEafvC1k

based on this page it seems quite a number of nexus owners having battery issues with 4.4.4
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
battery problems, wakelocks, and bears(KK bootloaders), oh my...

But then it's odd that I'm not having any problems - I press the power button which blanks the screen and leave phone alone for 1 min and press the power button, slide the lock, and stab at the BBS icon and lo my deep sleep has increased by, you guessed it, 1 min.

I am back at this moment (since yesterday evening) on cm11 6-29, but as I recall, it was the same on 1.3.4 (I don't stay on 1.3.6 as I rely on gps). I use pa_gapps-modular-modmicro-4.4.4-20140629-signed.zip which is micro but has calendar and chrome bookmarks apps removed. ( I used pa_gapps-modular-modmicro-4.4.3-20140608-signed.zip for AOSB 1.3.4) The only other google thing I use is gmaps which I back up with TiBkp. The only other thing I do on any install is shut off Settings/Display/Daydream because I found once that that prevents deep sleep. I also shut off Play update since I have an app (MBTAinfo) where only the old version works - otherwise Play would update it. I firewall block Play from data unless I am on wifi. (Android Firewall)

Do not confuse reports from folks on full KK with the KK bootloader. As someone said, that's still very much at ground level. When we finally get a real KK from Moto/AT&T (and can thus hack/upgrade our hacked phones) we will have the advantage of having several months of other folks blazing the trail, and KK evolving. With the JB bootloader now, we apparently can have a bunch of KK features but not the KK security (this is my un-knowledgeable assessment).

When we do get the new rom, I think we then have to flash it via some process like these folks did

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53830865#post53830865

But then we have to figure out what AOSB rom to use!!! Or if there's any available for the MB886.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Whatever is happening on those Nexus phones seems bad, and even if precipitated by the same Google Services issue, certainly must involve other factors. I reckon that's the cost of being a Nexus user and therefore Google beta tester ;).

I'm again Running CM M7 Snapshot 6/9/14 and was able to stop the wakelock by downgrading Google Play services to 4.3.25 in the native Settings - Apps - All - Google Play services - Uninstall updates.

So If I've got this right, newer Gapps of almost all flavors introduce the new Google Services (5.x) to the phone and this requires a tweak in the ROM or a downgrade of the Google Services? Will this test this in that CM 6/29/14 nightly and M8 (which both supposedly contain a fix and use JB bootloader).

As you say, we may benefit from the intrepid pioneers who are already dealing with this. Good time to get on something stable and sit for a bit.
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
Uh... my google play services (just checked in apps) is 5.0.84

Have no idea what you are talking about. Please clue me in...

grab a fresh PA-gapps-micro, and a 6-29 or 6-30 nightly and try again...

(format data, cache, and system)
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Surely (assuming I know what I'm talking about):

- A recent update to Google Play services is causing wakelocks on more than on ROM variant. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2799210

- That CM nightly from 6/29/14 happens to be the first CM to contain a fix which might explain why you aren't seeing wakelocks even though you have Google Play services 5.0.84

- The report for that nightly (http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960/#) links to a bit of a description of the change in the Google Play services. http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/66742/

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"For v5.0.xx some actions of .SystemUpdateService$Receiver have been separated to .SystemUpdateService$ActiveReceiver and they make a permanent wakelock with high battery drain. See pic: http://i.imgur.com/VWZEzAi.png with v5.0.81 installed without this change."

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- Until I have time to install that nightly I'm using a workaround which was to downgrade Google Play services. There are also less effective ways to temporarily disable the offending sub-services.

- Interestingly, after downgrading GP services, Google Maps invoked a request to update Google Play services, so perhaps it was around the most recent Maps update that this snuck into phones.

- Those Nexus phones may be experiencing a variation of this problem compounded by ?.

- The upcoming CM M8 snapshot may still be compatible with JB bootloader. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52287919&postcount=1
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
There may have been/was a problem that i totally missed since I did nothing with CM11 until 6-28 (all your fault :D ), and then the next day went to 6-29, simply because it was there. I have been too lazy to go to 6-30. Guess I lucked out!

That is the way of all ROMs(currently under dev), though - problems appear, are solved, and new ones appear. None are ever perfect. Generally, if I have a problem, i try a newer release of that rom, or a different rom. To me, that's life. These are toys - nothing more, though we occasionally actually make phone calls with them. :D

I remember being on a rom that I liked, went through a few releases, then unified, and all of a sudden i couldn't charge it from power off. So I went to Validus for a while. And on it goes! Got bored with clowns and went to AOSB and liked it through a couple releases, but then 1.3.5 went missing and 1.3.6 has no ART (anywhere) or gps. It depends SOOOOO much on the folks (CM, AOSP, etc) that they form their builds from. I don't blame the dev! I'd love to get something like a Nexus 5 and play with that. but who knows. This works near perfect for me at the moment (CM6-29N or AOSB1.3.4) (and is infinitely less expensive!)

Hope you find a solution! :highfive:
[Motorola Atrix HD] Arjomer:
I never had wakelock problems before. And now wakelock detector says my phone is awake 70% lol

I tried uninstalling the updates but I couldn't delete them:( I'd need to flash the latest nightly with JB bootloader.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'm surprised you could not downgrade the Google Play service but if you were in AOSB and perhaps with a different Gapps maybe things behaved differently than in CM 11 M7... or there are other factors to the problem in your case.

I just flashed CM 11 nightly (unified 8960) 6/30/14 with PA micro Gapps and the problem seems to be gone, as KrisM22 also reported.

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Indeed, this place is, in many ways, a playground at which kids with cool toys let me play with their stuff and sometimes even thank me for telling them what I think about it. Nice problem to have. :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Spell Check bug / glitch

In regards to the Spellcheck problem: It seems like someone at this Pac-Man ROM forum: (https://code.google.com/p/pac-man-development/issues/detail?id=178) found how it was patched in AOKP (http://gerrit.aokp.co/#/c/12727/1/core/java/android/widget/Editor.java).

Although the code on that page does use language that would be associated with spellcheck I cannot tell if it is valid in general, or to the AOSB ROM, but I passed it along in case it might be of any use. Thanks again for my favorite Android candy (candy = ROM) although for the time being I'm on a no candy diet :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
wow! that's interesting! Nite!
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
I just tried it and didn't get it to fail. I used gmail and messaging. I have spell checker checked in language and input, and selected android spell checker AOSP. I type some gibberish, chose the left word, and it just replaces it with that word. If I chose the center selection (the gibberish) it places it there with an underline, I click on the underlined word, chose a word from the list, and it puts that word in the message. What am I doing wrong?

edit: your post 374, you said do it twice, but I still can't get it - same line or carriage returns.

OOOOOOh you said it does not occur in CM11. Duh!!! :o
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Beyond the configuration, which is the same, I'm not sure if that is autofill or spell check, both of which involve selecting words with underlines of some sort. The error does not occur with the words at the top of the keyboard (autofill). They happen when you select the word underlined in red as in the attached pic. App will FC sometimes on on the first correction and always on the second. Does not occur in any of the 3 CM builds I've tried. What ROM are you using?
[Motorola Atrix HD] KrisM22:
11

nite!