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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] haremmon:
Congrats, glad you got your phone back safely. :)

If you don't mind me asking but why did you update your phone to MF3 build as many would have blocked the update right away. :s
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] norcal61:
Thanks! I thought long and hard about weather or not I was going to update to mf3. I decided that since I'm not going to root the phone or install anything custom at this time I may as well be on the latest firmware.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mattdm:
I hope you don't ever want to install a custom rom. Since you did that, you will likely never be able to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] norcal61:
I'm not really worried about. I pretty much enjoy a stock experience. I have two nexus 7 tablets for hacking and playing with mods. I use this phone for my business and I'm just after a straight forward experience. If there's ever an app that I want that requires root I can always root this firmware. And I would be surprised if this bootloader stays locked forever.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Micromax A116] christiano9911:
Hello

My Micromax A116 is not starting. Its stuck on teh Canvas HD screen while booting. I was installing Chainfire 3d and as soon as i gave it super user access , the phone rebooted and it didn't started. Everytime i try to start , it stucks on the Canvas HD logo screen and nothing happens.

Please help!
[Micromax A116] eagledipesh:
Try fix permission, you can user ROM manager or titanium back up, if that doesn't work then reflash the entire Rom.
[Micromax A116] G.Ashwinkumar:
The same thing happened to me just now. Struck in boot logo.

I have already installed CWM recovery so when i tried restoring it says m5 sum error.

What do i do?
[Micromax A116] eagledipesh:
I assume that the backup was taken earlier using CWM recovery and now you are trying to restore the same, try complete wipe and then restore, if it doesn't work then re install a fresh ROM.
[Micromax A116] G.Ashwinkumar:
Yes i took it earlier and now trying to restore.i have already tried factory reset but still it doesnt boot. What do i do?

---------- Post added at 11:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:49 AM ----------

Will installing a fresh rom end my problem?
[Micromax A116] christiano9911:
tried fix permission but nothing happenned.

where do i get the official rom?
[Micromax A116] eagledipesh:
Yes it should solve the issue, try flashing the tool VIA SP Flash Tool. here is the link to download stock rom provided by Micromax

http://www.moulnisky.com/index.php?dir=Micromax/A116/Software version/V3_270513(Jelly bean 4.2)/

You will lose all your data, try it at your own risk, i am not responsible if your phone bricks, if you are not comfortable go to the service station and get it flashed.

Check this link below, this is stock ROm without root.

http://www.moulnisky.com/index.php?dir=Micromax/A116/Software version/V3_270513(Jelly bean 4.2)/

Instructions : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2308431

For rooting you can follow this thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2292971
[Micromax A116] G.Ashwinkumar:
Flashed a cutom ROM through CWM now working fine.
[Micromax A116] eagledipesh:
Please press thanks if i have help you.... :)
[Micromax A116] Alka10:
Micromax Canvas hd A116 is not getting started!

Helloo..

Please help me as I bought Micromax Canvas hd A116 3 months before and it was my worst experience with micromax, I wish I had purchase samsung.

Its just 3 months and my phone is not getting started.. tried to charge the phone but its not getting charge.. its completely switched off..

battery conditions is also so bad.. have to charge all the day.

Anyone can help me here??
[Micromax A116] ronakandro:
My micromax a50 not booting up

i was trying to install a kernel which was for enabling swap facility in my micromax a50 whose link I got form this site onlly..... When i instaled it from zip using recovery and rebooted it didn;t boot....... plz help me......... can reinstalling the stock rom after downloading it from internet can solve the problem
[Micromax A116] shivambajaj:
Yup....re install ur stock ROM and u r good to go

I'm not responsible if u brick ur device.. Hit thanks
[Micromax A116] digyvijaykumar123:
Use Sp flash tool method instead of clockmode recovey

You should use SP flash Tool method For flashing Stock Rom,it is very safe and Trusted.
[Micromax A116] revolutionyzer:
Help from Canvas HD

I faced the same problem. My battery got swollen and is of no use. Now I have switched to ERD battery. Not bad . but is not too good , because its only 1250 mAh. But , should tell you, is working for its worth.
[Micromax A116] G.Ashwinkumar:
Best available option take it to the service center, or try installing cwm recovery or your entire stock rom through Sp flashtools.
[Micromax A116] arungautam10:
Brom error : S_da_sdmmc_write_failed

Hello

My Micromax A116 is not starting. Its stuck on teh Canvas HD screen while booting. I was installing Chainfire 3d and as soon as i gave it super user access , the phone rebooted and it didn't started. Everytime i try to start , it stucks on the Canvas HD logo screen and nothing happens.

After reading this Thread i tried reintalling fresh rom

I downloaded

1.Mobistel_Cynus_T1_Drivers_x86

2.SP_Flash_Tool_v3.1304.0.119 (latest)

3.MT6589_Android_scatter_emmc in the Sub folder (S9201_4.2_MP_F3F8_B1_IN_MMX_09_FLASHER_USER)

But i'm getting error in SP Flash tool:

BROM ERROR : S_DA_SDMMC_WRITE_FAILED (3149)

Please Help my phone is still not working and me alone at home not able to contact anyone.

Please help!
[Micromax A116] WalkerBales:
Are you admin ??
[Micromax A116] revolutionyzer:
that's because the version of ur SP tool old.Google ' latest sp tool ' and get the version which is lyk 'v1.1.13' or so... it! I'll work...
[Micromax A116] shahrukh786:
Plz help some mmx hd can't start

Plz help me.... Am installed cwm recovery on it....nd trying to install macrocream rom (rom of canvas 2) then i reboot my phone and it switch off..nd not starting.... Recovery mode cannot support by power key and volum - key... Plz help...also not charging on switch off ...
[Micromax A116] $hino:
If you have cwm just download from here and flash.... http://d-h.st/fXr
[Micromax A116] rajeshmehta97:
canvas HD Recovery Mode not working and gets stucked at logo

Hey please help its urgent my canvas HD has created a problem in its own. When i switch on my phone it gets stucked on canvas HD boot logo. Main screen is not coming. And when i tried to go into recovery mode, it is also not working rather phone restarts again and gets stucked again at logo.

Please help me sort out this problem...
[Micromax A116] Shikhar122:
Hey m also facing a similar problem anyone plz help us. My phone is Micromax Canvas 3D. I had installed a custom rom it was working fine but suddenly I thought to factory reset it.......then oh no just the boot logo comes and the phone doesn't starts. I know its not bootloop. It is not even connecting to computer tried installing many drivers even then... nor the recovery mode is opening... PLZ help if anyone can........
[Micromax A116] jitmal:
micro max hd not getting start

micro max Hd Not getting start it getting stuck at main screen how can i solve this also hard reset and reboot not working

can you pls call me or give me your number i vl call you pls
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...eterogeneous_Multi_Processing_Capability.html

This is breaking good news for us, though it's still unclear if it's for 5420 only or can be implemented into 5410 through update as well.
[Galaxy S 4 General] hypergamer1231:
well its definately about the 5420 because 1.8ghz a15 and 1.3 ghz a7 is not 5410 but 5420 sad :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
You get your point there, however I think that's not valid enough as when Sammy do their public announcements they will (of course) talk about the better things. Everything they talk about is "up to"

Anyway I'm not sure about this. I know [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] mentioned the core migration is impossible because flawed hardware, but HMP should be another story, I guess mostly it's about the Linux kernel. Let's just wait and see.
[Galaxy S 4 General] wackyD:
Hopefully they will release a refreshed version of the i9500? Probably not but here's hoping.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdonanthony:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] sorry if i disturbed u but now just want to clarify few things because as we all know ur the master of this Exynos thingy...

"Samsung will enable the HMP solution for its Exynos 5 Octa in Q4 2013."

source: " http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/10...ocessing-will-be-integrated-in-exynos-5-octa/ "

is it for i9500 or it is just for the new Note 3 powered by Exynos 5420 ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
most likely none of them since they said they will start using it in Q4 2013 ...and because having online all 8 cores and being able to use them all simultaneously mean considerable increase in power consumption at full load my best guess is that the first product using this implementation would be a tablet ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
exactly.
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
5420 runs at 1.9GHz&1.3GHz in the Note 3, on the other hand, the 5410 can run up to 1.8GHz&1.3GHz as it does in the Korean variant GS4.

Hmmm...
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
You don't understand power management.

The Korean version has the same clocks as the international.

And, no, this is HMP story only concerns the 5420 products. The 5410 is dead.
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
Oh?

Unless SamMobile is mistaken to:

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/10...exynos-5-octa-kills-qualcomms-snapdragon-600/

I was always under the impression the Korean Exynos GS4 ran at max 1.8GHz, hence why it was capable of scoring +31,000 in AnTuTu.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdonanthony:
thanks for the clarification

u mean 5410 is dead so there is no light for it ? :(

im slowly accepting now this very bad news
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
I do not ... but pure logic says having 8 cores working at max freq all together requires more power than having 4 of them ... or any other compination of them ... or that's not possible even with an HMP enabled SoC?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
Ohh. And why do you think some normal stuff would require anything more than a7 cores.. u understand that most off the apps on playstore would not require even 2 a5 cores at max logically or 4 a15s at half frequency.. so it doesnt matter that all 8 cores are online.. it only depends on how you use it.

For a power user its cherry over cake for others it is a great news for battery life..
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
Low multi-threadedness is a myth or a product of stupid programming. For one I'm making an application right now which parallelizes the whole UI loading and can make easily use of of 7+ threads scales pretty much infinitely if it's allowed to.

More cores don't cost any power, only die area. You gain tremendous dynamic range and power efficiency. Of course your theoretical peak power consumption goes up but you can just cap that with power management.

The Moto X is a good example of how a dual-core SoC can be less power efficient than a quad-core.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
I understand. But as you quote did I say the stuff wrong or right?

Sorry for dumb question. Not so good at english.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
Wrong; see for yourself :
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
Okay understood. But honestly. If all the 8 cores are used how would anyone manage power efficiency?

A15s least frequency consumes higher amount of power than peak power consumption of A7s. Is not that so?

edit: I understood. More cores would cost only die area. They wont cost any power unless they are used more. What happens when die area is occupied more?
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
I dont think this will make a big difference in battery life. I think the display is the real power hungry in every android device. Also the android system itself.

Smart phone maker should focus on making lighter and smaller battery but better power capacity.

Just my opinion...

Sent from my Nokia 3210 LTE
[Galaxy S 4 General] sorg:
It's better without battery at all with infinite power capacity :D

Don't limit your wishes! :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] system.img:
From Sammobile:

In short, Meizu is saying that HMP is possible in 5410 Octa, as their MX3 uses it. So, is Meizu wrong? :confused:

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/11...-eight-core-devices-through-software-upgrade/

http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/09/...oftware-upgrade-will-get-to-current-products/
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdonanthony:
lets have a better understanding about this from [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
We'll wait and see ... the mx3 may use a patched version which allows it to be software upgradable ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] system.img:
That's what I was thinking, but it's highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tuesdaydev:
My guess

My guess is Meizu doesn't know much and they're just saying this to sell more devices, or traduction came wrong and they're developing something on their own or maybe the processor will change... I haven't seen any Meizu file listing the 5410 processor yet so it could also be that it has a 5420 on board. In any case until Sammy says something we're left in the dark!
[Galaxy S 4 General] plasmastate:
Andrei says that 5410 is dead in terms of (big.little upgrades). Whether 5420 allows hmp or not, it isn't fully confirmed. But i guess we will have to live with 5410 as is, with a broken CCI.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Actually we dont know anything yet as samsung is silent in everything...

Sent from my Nokia 3210 LTE
[Galaxy S 4 General] system.img:
ARM has used the 5420 to demo HMP in its videos.

It will support HMP for sure.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
actually i think Meizu guy misunderstood :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
Is it possible that the CCI is disabled by some software trick before the kernel boots(If you ask me, I would guess bootloader or sth?), so there is no way to access it even if you have the proper codes in your kernel.

Then sammy gives us the magic to unlock the CCI then we can use it?

Is there any good evidence showing that the CCI is REALLY broken on hardware level? I mean being unable to access it is not sufficient to prove it's broken on hardware level, is it?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yuna:
> Is there any good evidence showing that the CCI is REALLY broken on hardware level? I mean being unable to access it is not sufficient to prove it's broken on hardware level, is it?

or update cpu microcode, to enable that feature (all because of samsung rushy development)
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
i don't really know if there is real evidence about hardware level but since Samsung didn't mention 5410 at all with any of their new posts about HMP so u can tell it probably will never work on 5410 ( i think ) :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] SirCanealot:
You pay for it. A bigger processor not only costs more (bigger price of silicone), but it will have lower yields (less chance of getting a processor with no defects).

And for god sake, please stop talking about the cci. Yes, there's going to be some magic patch 2 weeks next Friday which will unlock its magical power. Samsung are going to release a secret patch that will fix it for you.

Obviously it's vaguely possible that it's a gigantic troll by Samsung, but I think they would've fixed an issue like that already.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
I didn't even use the word CCI.. you out of your mind or what?

Thanks for the answer anyways
[Galaxy S 4 General] nfsmw_gr:
I have one question.

Even if it was possible and 8 cores would be used at once, wouldn't the temperature be much higher?

I don't think a mobile phone (or the user's fingers) can handle that...

The htc one which has an S600@1.7Ghz has a thin copper base to take away the heat but the S4 (any variant I think) doesn't have a cooling solution...
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
8 core together is only at extreme scenario, the main advantage user will get is the ability share workloads within big and little cores instead of work being done in any one set of cores
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
it have i think
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yuna:
> So wait till Kitkat release.

nah

backport to TW JB roms ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Well we dont have a stable choice yet other than JB TW :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] thekoRngear:
What Andreilux said:
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Well.. we dont know yet so lets give meizu the benefit of the doubt.

They know more than we know...

They are using exynos chipset and for sure they will not release a statement that they cant back up.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yuna:
> They are using exynos chipset and for sure they will not release a statement that they cant back up.

Noone said which one they using.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Every articles ive read about this mx3 says it is equipped with exynos 5410. It also stated that gpu is sgx544mp3. So its exynos 5410.

http://m.gsmarena.com/meizu_mx3-5679.php
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yuna:
Until i see the same info on meizu site - this is unclear.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Edit: http://www.meizu.com/products/mx3spec.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yuna:
Everybody saying, but still no word from Meizu...
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Maybe Meizu using a new revision of the Exynos5410 without the bug presented in the CCI-400.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdonanthony:
or maybe AndreiLux opened the chipset and take a look of the Exynos 5410...

im really believing HIM coz hes a great dev... 5410 is dead :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Really eh?

Try to look at this meizu website and translate it to english:

http://www.meizu.com/products/mx3fun.html

I attached the picture for you to see...

Take note on the bottom part that mx3 used sgx544mp3.

I hope its clear for you now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Tech specs straight from meizu website:

http://www.meizu.com/products/mx3spec.html

I hope its more clearer for you now :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
NO.

That's what Android Police says, not Samsung.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...nos-5-octa-can-run-up-to-8-cores-like-a-boss/

I won't repost what Samsung said as everybody can read their announcement, there is NO word of the S4 or the 5410, and plenty of pointing out to the 5420.

NO.

That's what Android Police says, not *Meizu.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-software-new-hardware-not-needed-after-all/

What Meizu actually said:

http://bbs.meizu.cn/thread-4608420-1-1.html

A few translations:

Pardon my Chinese if I'm wrong, but I don't see it anywhere stating that it applies to the 5410 and only "reason to believe" and a vague statement that I take as comparison to Meizu's own heat dissipation efforts which what that thread was all about in the beginning.

We already have had official confirmation from Linaro that the 5410 won't ever have anything beyond IKCS, please let the topic die already.

Edit: The only possible thing that could happen, and what Meizu seems to claim in the comments:

So basically it will have nothing to do with big.LITTLE anymore, but will be a different kind of "thing" whose efficiency is to be seen versus the real implementation. HMP it is not.
[Galaxy S 4 General] thekoRngear:
http://anandtech.com/show/7313/samsung-announces-biglittle-mp-support-in-exynos-5420

nicely written. HMP is coming to 5420. period.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
Lolzzz why u always so serious.? I reported what AP says. They just can't mold words on behlaf of Sammy and Meizu.

They are just reported what they asked to sammy and Meizu. They can't report false reporting.

Will back to u 2morrow.

Thanks,

Disturbed™

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[Galaxy S 4 General] vamsi_krishna:
Most of the smart people are kind of rude/serious. Mostly because they have to repeatedly explain in detail what in their mind is alphabets

Probably I am going to get bashed for this. :confused: Have some mercy, please. :eek:

Coming to the point of discussion, I don't have any hopes for I9500. And I feel people are forgetting how much good of a phone it is, after they found couple of flaws flaws. We bought the phone pouring what is considerably a big amount for a phone especially in developing countries like India. Most of the guys doesn't have any option except to roll on. And guys like Andreilux, Wanam, Crash are doing a great job to improve the device, we should be thankful to them and be positive at the same time. Its not the end of the world. just HMP. :) Sorry if I offended any one. Just my opinion.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
what most of the news sites do these days is copy news from another site which is indeed sourced from some other site, no one gives a damn about the actual news or analyse the source(except a very few sites). Im saying this because we have ample evidence about the case of 5410 and moreover no one mentioned anything precisely about the hmp support for 5410 soc, highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
Hahahaha. Joke of the century. Molding words on behalf of others is what their business is.

95% of these websites, Android Police included in this case, don't do reporting. They do "news forwarding", all you need to do is follow the [Links] or Via: XXX at the bottom of the articles, most of the time it's a matryoshka doll of one site quoting the other, with each of them adding their own tidbits to it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] uv101:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]

I have two questions regarding the Exynos 5410:

1.How did you find out about the problem in the CCI-400 in the Exynos 5410?

2. is there by any chance an analysis of the SoC's silicone that shows this porblem?
[Galaxy S 4 General] dragon135:
It has been known from trusted insider sources, arm articles, even discussed in maliling list where Linus also commented himself.

It is an old fact, 5410 has non working CCI in the silicone. You came here late, read whole thread created by Andreilux.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
Lolzzz..at least u laughed. BTW, I asked AP about publishing only correct news. Hope they will revert with correct reason ot they willnt respond.

Sometimes rumors become part of news and news becomes part of rumors. I m talking about what we have discussed only. I know ur point and ur depth knowledge about the same but why we can't be positive? lets hope what meizu said or the rumors said, will become in news.

Thanks,

Disturbed™

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
While trying to get IKS working a few months ago I simply went ahead and asked one of the lead engineers in charge.
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
You know what? Who cares, going by the evidence presented by [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] I'm convinced we won't get HMP as it is clearly not possible, Samsung are all about the Exynos5420 and onwards now, it's pretty clear in the videos and press articles.

I think we should just bury this topic now and move on. Enjoy the GS4 as it is, we've got 4.3 and 4.4 coming our way. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] saphirrot:
Srsly? I think you are with the wrong community in here
[Galaxy S 4 General] uv101:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]

Iyour translaeion of what meizu said is wrong

Thwy were talking about preventing the exynos 5410 soc from gaining heat and about the hmp update fixing it.