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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Incoming rant: if you don't want to read it, please skip to the summary at the end of the post.

[RANT]

No 4.3? Big deal. I have better things in life to pour my emotions into.

Quite frankly, I care about Sense 5, not Android 4.3. Having 4.2.2 surely is a bonus over Sense 4.1 (port) didn't the quick settings and few lockscreen widgets. I've tested Sense 5, and the lighter UI improves performance immediately. Even the multitasking problem is much better (not like CM 10.1, but MUCH better than Sense 4.1).

You have to face the facts that our device is aging. That's how HTC does it. I KNEW that before I bought this phone, and I'm sure that most of you did too. Samsung can update its old flagship (like the S2) because MUCH more people purchased those handsets. HTC provided support for the OG EVO for a pretty decent period of time because of the big impact that it made.

You have to remember, the EVO 4G LTE is SPRINT'S flagship, NOT HTC! We are lucky enough to get the recognition to be listed on the to-be-updated list while we are over here on the back burner. I expect the One to get much better support than our phone because it is a carrier-wide flagship, unlike the Evo or the Incredible (who might not even get Sense 5,so be happy!).

Basically, this is a business, and the masses have already moved onto the One. Look at how many devs - OUR DEVS - have moved on. It should actually be in the company's best interest to please those people as well as the general public who have actually upgraded their phones to the latest handsets as well.

Lastly, I'm not sure how many of the new features that our phones will actually benefit from, aside from the TRIM feature, which can be found in the Lagfix app in the play store. There aren't a great deal of UI changes. The only one that comes to mind is the "elimination method" that you see while dialing a number. Android 4.2 is just as nice as 4.3. But AOSP isn't for me either. I'll stick with what the HTC devs push out.

[/RANT]

In a nutshell, this is how the business works. If you don't care about buying the latest and best, than they don't charge much about you. While I don't agree with it, I don't want to hear whiners who complain about it. Oh well. That's how it feels.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] hillje1:
My phone has not taken an upgrade successfully since mean bean about a year ago!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] bayp4amd:
But the Lte will get 4.2.2 with sense 5 according to llabtoofer
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
aw damn, beat me to my own post lol, I knew somebody was going to see that and post it on XDA
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Magnum_Enforcer:
Saw that earlier on his Twitter feed. I think too many people assumed that since he said we weren't getting 4.3 that we weren't getting updated at all, which isn't the case, at least according to his info.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
Is there a clear understanding when htc will get this update. I heard end of september or sometime october, and that the update would be 4.2.2 with sense 5 and that would be the last major update for the phone. P.S. sources say sprint already has the update but, it is under review. I am trying too find the rdf weblink for the phone too see exactly with coming soon too us, but the rdf link i have only shows back when the phone was released.

This is the only link I have too get the latest update rdf info from sprint

http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/APX325CKT/latest
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
At this point its just lazyness on HTC's end. I'm sure they just don't want to skip to 4.3 because they were already almost done with the 4.2 update.. Well at least we're getting that and honestly I'll take it as I'm used to HTC's horrible phone support after dealing with the 3D. I'm sure the One will have a similar early death once the next HTC phone with an 800 processor is announced.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
I never really understood the review process by Sprint. I had the Epic Touch and it went back and forth for months and they pushed a really buggy update. The thing was bad. Im sure anyone at Sprint is clueless to what even makes a good update. Probably corporate bull. Keep sending it back to HTC for this or that to hold us up.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbmike29:
Sprint has our money and doesn't care about our loyalty. They would rather that we upgrade early or pay the ETF. More $$$ for their bottom line. When my contract is up, I'm going with another provider, simple as that. I'm done with Sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] markb629:
Just my simple $.02 to add to this thread would be that even in the Samsung threads you read the same things, people tired of waiting for updates or features, devs talking about the pain Samsung is to work with (not as much as HTC but still its there) and that one I have no clue about because I don't even have the balls to try myself. I keep sticking with HTC because I prefer it over anything else. I like sense much better than touch wiz (which to me is full of so much gimmicky crap to cause more issues than its worth) and sprint still has my money coming their way because of the plans. I am one of the lucky ones that got LTE early so I can't complain there. I'm more pissed about the way sprint has taken away all perks for long time customers like yearly upgrades and the "premier program" (which was nothing great anyway other than the yearly upgrading). I've been a customer of theirs for 12yrs now I think and new customers get more than us long timers do. Back to the point of this device, the fact is its almost a year and a half old and in this high speed technology time that's old its pretty much obsolete to anyone other than us still using it. The fact we'll get any update this late in its life is shocking and I'll take what I can get honestly. What ever gets put out officially will only be made better by the awesome devs here and all they do for us free of charge.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] RayTrue04:
Buggy or not at least the e4gt got those updates rolling. HTC won't even give you that.. They abandon their phones too soon. I hope that isn't the case with the One although the fact it didn't even release with 4.2 makes me iffy about the life expectancy of its future updates. Also I don't see what Sprint has to do with any of it when all they do is review what the manufacturer sends them. From my understanding the manufacturer of the SoC are the ones who get the source code for updates and forwards it to the phones manufacturer to work on for their phones and not Sprint.

Edit: That's one of the reasons the e4gt had good support. It used Samsung's own chip and not Qualcomm's (Who also ends support on their chips too soon sometimes).
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AngelofChaos:
This will probably be my last device with HTC, unless they can get out of this death spiral and come out with a great tri-band phone for Sprint. Otherwise I'm going with whatever Nexus device Google has coming up with next year or Samsung, as my upgrade is in January.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
Ill say this. I work for a company that dies Billions per year and has beat expectations in every quarter even through the rock bottom economic times. I see on a weekly basis as well as here about how we do more with less and upper management continues that drive. The problem is I work down in the middle where I see worse performance results and bad employee altitudes toward the company. My point is all HTC or Samsung for that matter care about is that they bring more cash in. They cut software engineers, customer service, tech's etc. No matter how bad there qaulity they prey on the fact America and European markets have to have the latest and greatest. How many people do you continuously buy the new phones the first day or week of availability? What percentage actually researches before they spend that $
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] qhinton:
I don't care. Sammy is developer friendly and they support their devices long which in turn creates customer loyalty. I can't afford to be switching phones every year this is why I'm going Nexus or Moto all day! What's even more pathetic is HTC retains 0 value. The Evo is a beautiful phone but even at its peak it was worth like 175 and now I'll be luck to get 125. Oh I like 1 click root f**** some S-off racoon hack.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
I'm proud to be one of those who research THOROUGHLY before I buy a new device. I even got my Evo 6 months after it's release. Why? Because I wasn't due for an upgrade, and I wanted the release of the iPhone 5 to drop the prices, which it did. :) I knew the flaws of this phone before I got it, but they weren't enough for me to jump to Sammy.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] fceeviper:
Just got a great cheap deal on a HTC One on Craig's List, bye EVOLTE. I will miss you. :(
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
Guys I dunno whether to believe it or not. I was told today Sprint would probably start rolling update on Friday 13th of Sept. Don't see anything official anywhere. That came from a Sprint tech over the phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] clownfart:
And this is why I am leaving HTC and Sprint behind.

The phone is barely a year old and this is unacceptable.

Good riddance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
Yeh I'm at work right now so really can't search. Did Google not say that phones had to be supported up to 18 Months? That would put this phone dead around Christmas. I'll be absolutely happy with 4.2.2 and sense 5 no complaints here on that. I don't see any reason in the time frame why not to get 4.3. Makes you wonder if that's why they are holding any updates for our device. Trying to get as close to that 18th month support line.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] trsix:
nexus 5

Until then the super nexus ROM works great for me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
That's funny I was told the same thing. I didn't find anything officially expect we will see 4.2.2 with sense 5. It suppose too be butter smooth and they fixed alot of bugs and battery improvement. But the update was approved by sprint and just a waiting game on HTC and Google
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
Well I called back twice in excitement. One told me they knew nothing the next one around 8 pm told me the 13th as well. Something must be circling around the call center.

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Did anyone ever figure out about rdf pages
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
I wish football was still around . He was the master on getting leaked ruu and update zip. We would already had the firmware
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] realchinky:
Actually this phone was released in March 2012 and is almost done with its 18-month timeframe for updates. 4.2.2 and Sense 5 will be the last update for this phone, and Sprint already has the software, and it is under review.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
Sources within Sprint saying update coming on friday the 13th with 4.2.2 with sense 5 , just hope my source is correct at sprint.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] js417:
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
I just wish I get the rdf file from sprint too see what exactly in the update, but the link i got is a old version for the phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
So 2 people have similar sources..? Unless u and tommy and realchinky is one person ..
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
LMAO, no I just know someone within sprint
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MFOsaka:
To the OP, thanks for being a troll. Cool thing is, most of us are here because we have root. And unofficial or not, due to that, we do have access to updates that even HTC never rolled out with as planned. I for one, do not mind that. Sure, it'd be nice if HTC and Sprint stayed on their job, but those are the breaks.

I dug my og EVO a bit more than this phone due to the lack of updates, but anything is better than the treatment that the Thunderbolt received for Verizon. That was plan sad. And "janky ports"? Slap in the face to the devs. Although many have moved on, they've done a phenomenal job with this device and still are.

Long story short: GTFOH, random troll.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] wcr84:
Well lol my source was just calling Sprint three times. Caught two who said the 13th. One who said no updates.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
See below . . .

Take the "er" off the end and spell it backwards ;)

The issue is that HTC is no longer even producing RUUs. Apparently they are a thing of the past :(.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
I forgot about his twitter account, I wondering what they will be using since RUU are no longer producing , I just hope Sprint is right about the update coming on Friday the 13th, Also I had a phone rep at sprint tell me it's coming , And another source works in sprint tech dept at a store location
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
I always wondered if "Refootball" was supposed to mean Football reincarnated or something....maybe it's just me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jayjam99:
What ever happened to ISN? :confused:

He used to give all kinds of inside info.

Havent heard or seen from him for quite sometime.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
Lol there's a guy in my class right now and he's wearing his sprint outfit.. I'm about to interrogate him >:)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Lmbo!

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jdawg0024:
Please do. Waterboard him if necessary.

Life is too short to be unhappy
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] mbaseball3:
He's probably in jail now. His last tweet was asking for lawyers. But that was some time ago.

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I feel like trollin. Kinda like our first update with the reworked screen capture of the update on my phone. Lolz feathers got so ruffled in here it's still funny to this day. :D :sly:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] MassStash:
Hope it isn't today actually! Friday the 13th update sounds like a bad mojo field day! Haha

~d2spr runnin' Goodness v10.0.4; 'thraxed

cpu0/1: 1.512ghz | 81mhz | sleep 486mhz

Special Gov

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mpdecision: Kernel Based

thermald; Kernel Based

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] physix:
Pretty awesome, actually.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lreyes:
Ok so people bashing HTC no names but "Hates The Customers"? Seriously guys you're acting like 11 year olds our phone is 2-3 year old what do you expect Android 120.5 Zing-Yang? HTC is a loyal company they make great phones. Software, hardware you name it. Hm lets see 10-20 phones from HTC later and you expect 4.3 sense 5.5 or sense 5? These devs work their ass off for HTC and some of our guys just to bring you guys what you want but you expect HTC to give you android 4.3 that just came out not even a month ago and expect it by next week. That's frustrating that you guys expect something but it take time and effort. You're embarrassing yourselves come on why don't you try working on building for this phone and not going through bull at home or else where. We have lives, we work, we do what we can, and sometimes if some devs have free time they help out to XDA bringing us some amazing stuff. They don't have to build roms nor contribute at all. Same goes for the guys at HTC who are working their asses off just so the 20 some new devices get bug fixes and etc. Show some respect to the devs and HTC. If you want to argue with me then please PM me as I think this thread is pointless.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kenpen:
Running 4.3 right now. Who said no more 4 3.lol

Naija boi

CM 10.2 IRC DECK
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AerodynamicTrunks:
Our phone was technically released in June of 2012... That is not 2-3 years.

That said, see my comment on page 1.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] .Gibson.:
lol 2-3 year old.... I stopped reading after that.

Sent from my EVO
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] kf2m:
Untwist your panties kid. Can't have fun with HTC's current promo? Since you like playing number games... The Jewel has been only around for 14 months. So where do you get this 10-20 phones? HTC has released <10 phones since the Jewel was offered in May/June 2012. I already have 4.3 (big thanks go out to kushdeck for all his work). Face it the Jewel is a one-off with low volume movement so support is going to be minimal at best if not nonexistent. It's the nature of the industry. Get over it. Bottom line is there is no money to be made, and HTC is a hurting unit (stock value has gone from $300 per share in May 2013 to barely over $100 at the end of the 2nd quarter). Bear in mind when companies lose marketshare, and sales are dwindling things are gonna get cut (case in point the 20% layoff at the HTC US offices). I hope that HTC fortunes do turn around because after you cut your employee ranks to nothingness then the next item to cut is materials.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] qhinton:
Friday the 13th came and went with no update. ETF down to 120 I hope I can at least get that much for this phone.:cyclops:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
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Cunning man
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
Really think HTC is waiting too start HTC one update before we get ours. But we have custom roms . We can use
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
That's what I was saying from the start...unfortunate indeed, but I don't see how HTC would update an outdated phone before their latest flagship. Our only saving grace is them waiting for 4.3.

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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jamieg71:
No 4.3 Sense update?!! That's it. I quit. Life ain't even worth living no mo...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Majin101:
I'm following you man!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
I just checked htcdev.com and no kernel or any kind of download there for our phone. I believe we will get the update in due time.but most people aren't going too wait for it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Nor should they. ...4.3 is widely available here and runs much better than any HTC/sense ROM.

Granted , kernel release would be nice to make easier for our wicked Deva to smooth any rough edges.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cw0802:
I really hate being "that guy" but do you guys have a recommended 4.3 ROM to test drive? I was on Super Jelly for such a long time but I'm looking to upgrade.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] schaffer970:
I've been using deck's CM10.2 ROM and enjoying it.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] barleysoda:
The codefire Xperiment 4.3 ROM in the original Dev section is my fav. ASOP ROM.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
I've really been liking carbon. So there it is,..3 replies, 3 different answers lol
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Why don't you try BeanStalk while you're at it. THey're all good. As a matter of fact, I'm yet to see a bad rom posted in this forum. A lot of work has gone into 4.3, and it is near perfect by now.

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Rerooted, Custom ROM, and Faster than EVER!!!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] louched1:
Have the 4.3 AOSP ROMs gotten past the GPS and bluetooth problems they were having? That's what has kept me away from them.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Captain_Throwback:
I don't have any Bluetooth or GPS problems on CM10.2 . . . :confused:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] louched1:
Awesome! I'll have to give them a shot someday soon then.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ajamin24:
HAHAHA!! I feel the same way.... Other than waiting for the iPhone part. That, I'm not doing; Android all the way. But if I were to switch from this phone its for either the Motto X 32gb, currently not available on sprint, or a STOCK Android HTC Device. I'm a huge fan of ASOP or Stock Roms advocate and HTC makes the best devices (in my opinion).

As far as not having 4.3... I'm cool with that, cause my phone is rooted and I'm running CM10.1 RC2. I wait until most bugs are worked out before I make a full switch. With that said, I'm waitng for Carbon 4.3 Rom to become solid.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AerodynamicTrunks:
I can't remember what 10.1 was even like anymore.... There is no new development for it. Our device maintainer (the good lord deck™ ) has been doing cm10.2 for close to 2 months already.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Ajamin24:
HAHAHA!! Yeah. I have tried to make the jump away but nothing seems to act right just yet. Once Carbon is bug free, at least limited bugs, I'll go back to a 4.3 / 10.2 Rom.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Don't get me wrong...I do

NOT

want an iPhone, but I was hoping that the hype would draw the attention away from the Evo. That's what I was waiting for. I don't care about what it brings to the table.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] scottspa74:
Hahaha I see you had to step in to correct the record when someone misinterpreted your post to mean you were considering in iPhone.

Ha! Made me laugh. Just had to comment, sorry :sly: :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
Here some info from mo at HTC in regards too official status what's going with our update.

https://twitter.com/moversi/status/382648153427554304
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] igotlostintampa:
Beanstalk is doing really well for me right now. Like...really really well. After self tweaking the audio, the best rom ive used to date. Just missing one thing though....

Blinkfeed :)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] youdug:
Check out Flipboard igotlostintampa.

Mo told us nothing tommy.

Sent from my Evo 3G LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
They are trying too work with sprint too get a plan together for a update. But I don't see it happen . We might get a bug fix and software enhancement update but no major update.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
What's this "plan" that they speak of? Release the darn thing! Where's the planning in that?

I see this as another false promise just to buy them some more time and a little more respect (or a little less disrespect) from users. Youdug is right, he really didn't say anything.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
I know he didn't say much . Other than blame game between sprint and HTC . The way I see it. This phone under the bridge in there eyes since HTC one is out. And they aren't concern about other devices. But that's cool we have custom roms and great dev. Team here or simply sell the device and get something else
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Nah, I'm not selling. I'm not mad with the version of Sense/Android that I'm running. It looks great and runs nicely. Just don't tell me that I'm going to get something, then tell me to wait longer, and longer, and longer, and wait for the people who joined the line after me because they paid more money than me...and wait for the VIP who are from the same country as our company...you get the point.

Just give me a little more details so that my wait will seem a little more purposeful.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] tommyjoesanders:
That's a good way too look at it. I like my phone as well. Just wish they would do like bug fix too improve radio and new prl and maybe a new kernel and better ram performance.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AarSyl:
Ok.....now it sounds like you need a new phone if you're asking for that much. Lol. But I can certainly use a new radio to make the LTE connection problem a little more tolerable.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] twist:
This is really starting to remind me of the thunderbolt.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gameaddict8:
TB got 4.0 2 years later. It's only been 16 months so far
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sinistertensai:
There's already LTE's running 4.3 and sense 5, they're a lil "janky" atm though lol.

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