yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 General] 95mediatech:
all HMP rumours that could find its way into 5410 its dead, all been concluded by Master AndreiLux, and Exynos 5410 is thing of a past for Samsung, we need to continue our life with it, with the support of our current developers like AndreiLux,Wanam & many others slowly finding their way into I9500 development. we at least have a title to grab for. World's First Smartphone with 8-Core System on chip & processing capabilities (actually not lol :rolleyes:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
huh ? :eek:

https://twitter.com/ARMCommunity/status/379722644285038592
[Galaxy S 4 General] negrobembon:
Now thats interesting
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Interesting for note 3 users :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] vamsi_krishna:
It just says Exynos 5, not all Exynos 5.

Still, sparked a little hope.
[Galaxy S 4 General] cydiamante:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2_vs_samsung_galaxy_s4-review-984p6.php

Aparently Samsung is working on an update to for all 8 cores to work at once. Gsmarena wrote this while they were talking about the I9500...
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
Most likely refers to the newer 5420 exynos SoC ... and if it is indeed true that makes the exynos variant of the note even more appealing ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] rulala:
So. 5410 only can run Cluster Migration forever?

Is it possibile to run CPU Migration ?

anyone can tell me ? Big thanks !
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
yep

no , because there is no CCI 400 on 5410 :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
there is ... according to anandtech at least
[Galaxy S 4 General] cydiamante:
Sounds promising :) not that it needs all 8 to works at once. My i9500 is super smooth and lag free ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
IMO the broken coherence might have sth to do with the PowerVR GPU . the CCI might be designed and tweaked for Mali GPU only so the PVR might be difficult to cope with. So sammy had to turn it off.

Anyway it's just a guess.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AvelonTs:
How the gpu can influence the coherency of the 2 clusters inside the cpu? My little knowledge fails to comprehend that ... where do you base that assumption?
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
lol i had the same guess once but IDK :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
Well, I'm no expert but from what I read is that CCI400 is rather a universal bus in the soc which links more things together than merely the 2 clusters. GPU is one of the things it links.

And then it's simple, PVR is not designed to be linked that way, so bad thing happens and we lost HMP.

don't blame me, there is great possibility that I was just talking bs :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] StellMonkey:
With 8 cores running at the same time wouldn't waste a lot of battery and overheat the phone?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
no not at all. it will be even more efficient than the current cluster migration which is on an average more efficient than any snapdragon device available yet whilst being more powerful than all of the devices

reason is previously at one time either all a15 cores took the load while a7 lay down.

now the device will be capable of taking only the power as much is needed and preventing small tasks running on a15. like one a15s three a7s and similar.

previously the tragedy was all 4 a15 cores taking the unnecessary load. but in HMP the load is rarely put on a15 like starting a heavy app.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
You will not know it unless you are using it. :)

The same thing that they say about i9505 is more battery efficient than i9500. :) yet i9500 has more longer battery life.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] Degrated Shadow:
To be honest brother. Note 3 has bigger battery plus better core migration logic. Why wouldnt anybody say so that it has better batterylife?
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Yes it has bigger battery capacity but and take Note of this... it has bigger screen...

I dont know if hmp will improve battery life drastically.. But I think it will not or atleast slightly improve bat life.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] system.img:
Bigger screen with same number of pixels.

And also it does not have a backlight.

So the N3's screen most probably will suck the same amount of juice as S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] fineday2:
I think, is there any possibility that, I guess, the Exynos5410s inside Galaxy S4 and MEIZU MX3 are different even they are both named Exynos 5410? Maybe SAMSUNG released a new step of Exynos5410 after Galaxy S4 launched, and it was chosed by MEIZU. Of course, this seems to be almost impossible, but I checked some teardown pictures from both of these two phones, and there IS really a slightly difference between these two Exynos5410s, please check the photos below:

This one is from MX3:

This one is from Galaxy S4:

There is an additional W after the code BEB on the Exynos5410 from MX3, which is missed on Galaxy S4. The other strings are either date code or something like SN, which are normal being different.

Anyone has any idea or info? if this is true, maybe some of the Galaxy S4's can enable HMP via a patch, while others can't.:confused: I bet if SAMSUNG really did this, many people would be angry about it.

And further more, MEIZU claims that MX3 can handle 4K video playback by hardware decoding, what's impossible on Galaxy S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] desz:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7313/samsung-announces-biglittle-mp-support-in-exynos-5420

The End.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
http://www.examiner.com/article/sam...core-hmp-support-suggests-linux-kernel-update

This article seems to be implying that AndreiLux says that HMP will work on current S4. I copied out the section of the article I'm referring to.

"According to Android developer AdreiLux, the Linux kernel currently recognizes the Exynos 5 Octa's CPU cores as equals, causing issues with the system’s workload distribution. When completing tasks, the system should use the less power hungry A7 cores instead of the power consuming A15 cores.

Updating the kernel and drivers should result in performance and battery improvements and achieve the intended use of all 8 cores. “The point of the design is to meld the advantages of the A7 processor architectures, with its extreme power efficiency, with the A15 architecture, with extreme performance,” AdreiLux wrote in a post on XDA Developers.

Customers can expect the HMP solution for the Exynos Octa 5 processors from Samsung in Q4 of 2013. It’s likely that it will be rolled out in the form of a software update to owners of the octa-core variant of the Samsung Galaxy S4."

See part in bold, then they follow it up by saying customers can expect S4 to get the update in Q4 of 2013.

Looks to me as though the journalist just twisting things to what they want.

We all know HMP won't work on S4, CCI is stuffed. AndreiLux said so long ago already, and as far as I know he hasn't said otherwise.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
I guess that its another misleading article.
[Galaxy S 4 General] 95mediatech:
Pretty stupid, those guys made article that could cheats many people who read that, upside down until the reader came here and see the discussions.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
bad news guys

Read this: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Note...t-core-performance-patch-says-Samsung_id47977
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Those s4 exynos user who get Note3 exynos beieleving that hmp is possible will be very dissappointed.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
thats hardly anything bad or new ....

first things first ,forget about s4 and hmp.

second samsung might never enable hmp in their regular kernels core migration is the most important aspect, what will benefit note 3 via a custom kernel is the core migration which i feel the most required feature these days. If they can workout the linux kernel to handle core migration well then thats going to be the future.
[Galaxy S 4 General] desz:
Samsung - the best marketing in the world

and no one doubted - Marketing (before sales strarte a Note 3) :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
if the chip is capable of delivering hmp and core migration then a custom kernel is enough to make use of those features. Honestly whats the point in having hmp in a stock kernel? a person who is not using custom kernel has a high probability of never knowing about what is big little architecture.

If i have read right 5420 the coherency issue is fixed in 5420 , so thats more than enough for note 3 users to enjoy the device. See big little is not about the peak performance, we already reached the performance barrier, big little is all about increasing/improving battery efficiency(atleast for me) to which without a doubt core migration s going to help a lot
[Galaxy S 4 General] thekoRngear:
Agreed in that GTS (New name for core migration) will always be better than cluster migration (the existing/delivered ones to note 3/s4s). BUT, understating the HMP would not cut it. More like grapes are sour. At the end of GSMArena it was said,

Somewhere in this oceanic S4 section Andreilux stated big.little will be more matured/power efficient with 20 nm manufacturing process.

All these point towards the A53+A57 big.LITTLE (ye, I put little in bold :p ) combo coming next year which will have 4k recording, (desired) lte radio, power efficiency, 32bit+64 bit arc and HMP. Thus no need for releasing (and therefore confusing consumers) a snapgradon solution.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
HMP is extremely useful for power efficiency because you can migrate stupidly faster than DVFS allows you to.

The Note 3 is still running cluster migration and I'll doubt this will change anytime soon. Their drivers are still out of date for normal IKS so I won't even bother trying to get that running on a device I don't own. And frankly nobody else is interested in doing the work.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
then its kinda disappointing, anyone who puts their hand on note 3 custom kernel might surely need you guidance
[Galaxy S 4 General] Fienman:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
we all are discussing over this news. Read 5 Post before.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
check this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46253276
[Galaxy S 4 General] rulala:
anyone see this ?

http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/4582/galaxy-s4-gt-i9500-gets-android-4-3-update-too.html

Among the device performance improvements with the upgrade are:

eMMC TRIM support improves write performance onto the phone memory (internal storage), improving app performance

A new display driver adds a new color profile, and reproduces colors over the 5-inch 1080p AMOLED display better

Possible Heterogenous Multi-Processing (HMP) CPU driver and kernel modules let apps

take advantage of both Cortex-A15 and Cortex-A7 sets of CPU cores on the Exynos Octa 5410 SoC simultaneously

this is WTF...

5410 has CCI-400 bug , isnt it ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] desz:
therefore antutu gives worse results than 4.2 :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] desz:
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...gLITTLE_Technology.html?ism=SANov1213Twitter1

If I understand correctly, they talk about the devices that are now available on the market. Or I do not understand that.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fuser1337:
Yes, in current market

---------- Post added at 09:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 AM ----------

SamsungExynos replied to someone's tweet that there is no such CCI bug.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
they have mentioned 5420 soc in the pdf document... may be if note 3 get some great devs like [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] , they might get a chance to see hmp
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
I don't have money to spend to try to get a device which has absolutely no user-base. The i9500 has resulted in almost no donations, so whatever my next device is, it would be international (and with that, I mean at least European).
[Galaxy S 4 General] desz:
After what did Samsung this year, i believe, exynos - dead processor. In the next year's they will not sold how many smartphones.

ps sorry for my bad English
[Galaxy S 4 General] ballsofsteel:
Well for a company this big like Samsung they can continue to make exynos if they wish to, even if that means a small user base. Exynos has been failing since the 4412 which incorporated weak GPUs into the design. The first two exynos reigned supreme. Everything after that was just playing catch up (or even failed to catch up, see iPhone 4s vs international S3 gpu)
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
thats totally true, i feel sorry for that. I still cannot believe the fact that samsung didnt release exynos internationally , if the exynos 5 soc supports the LTE modem then why not put one in and release it globally? may be that should change with exynos 6. Lets hope atleast...
[Galaxy S 4 General] speed s:
UPDATE:*We have just received info that the existing Exynos 5 Octa (Exynos 5410), the one in the Galaxy S4, is missing HMP implementation at both hardware and software level so it is impossible to activate HMP on it. While Exynos 5 Octa (Exynos 5420), the one in the Galaxy Note 3, does feature HMP at hardware level but the software implementation is missing and we can’t confirm if Samsung will activate it in the near future. However, we can surely confirm that Exynos 6 will definitely have HMP activated out of the box.

Source:*@SamsungExynos

Envoyé de mon GT-I9500 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] ktouy:
Pure bullsh#$ from samsung...

It was all a good dream.

...the tiny italic text...
[General Questions and Answers] kushal_neov:
Hey guys!:)

I'm planning to buy a new phone in november as my xperia neo v celebrated its 2nd b'day recently:p I'm very confused whether I should buy samsung S4 or Xperia ZR or Xperia Ultra...I've never used samsung and to be true I'm not that big fan of all the bloatware they stuff into the phones. But again, samsung phones are more perked than any other running same android version:p Xperias are water proof, bravia engine and s4 has that beautiful lockscreen...I want to use the new phone for atleast two years, always running on latest android version available..(I was so mad when sony declared 'no jelly bean' for neo v:silly: )please let me know your views about these phones and help me choose..:confused:
[General Questions and Answers] b3s1:
Xperia Z Ultra

I would definitely go for the Xperia Z Ultra for its super performanc and for the 6.4'' screen since it would be very helpfull for me as a IT Specialist. :good:​
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] storm81456:
I've noticed some problems when roaming outside the US (I travel to Canada occasionally for work, such as right now). I will get the standard "Roaming network notification" in the pulldown. When I select it, it opens up a screen with a header message about "Allow data access?" (normally the screen with the blurb about roaming data costing money and whether or not to allow it on this trip or always or never IIRC from my S3 days) but the screen is just blank white below the header and several seconds later com.android.phone crashes. Anyone else seen/having this issue?

I'm currently running Bonestock 1.1.4 with the stock kernel and ME radios. I'm using the regular VZW LTE sim just like if I'm at home. Trying to see if this is somehow Bonestock related or a general issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
As far as I know, it is only bone stock related. There's a lot of talk about it in the rom thread. When someone can give him more detail I'm sure he will get it fixed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Stauf99:
did someone say screenshots?

hey storm81456, i heard you saying you wish you had some screen shots. Just so happens I shot my screen when this happened to me.

Bones 1.1.3, MDK radio

I was driving and using navigation. If it stopped while i went through the dead spot I didn't noticed. just saw the triangle when I arrived
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] storm81456:
Awesome. Now just need one of the white screen with roaming data title bar if it's possible to get it.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dying4004:
guys

i am thinking to buy a galaxy tab 3 8.0 but really concerned seeing almost no development for it.

whats the reason behind this?

or should i get a galaxy note 8.0??

cheers
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muntinlupa:
Even the galaxy grand which the xda classifies as "low activity device" has more development than combined all galaxy tab 3 models. I think the price difference between note 8 and tab 8 is not much considering the note 8 has more development so far.l would recommend the note 8.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dying4004:
thnx my friend.

i will take your recommendation.

cheers
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 84DGR:
I'm currently looking into development for the sgt3 8....

Considering the note 8.0 has been out longer just give it time.

Development works are underway
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirrin:
Yeah considering the tab3 is only 2 months old. Honestly I would get the note just for the s pen over the 8 inch gt3
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RobbyTouchHD:
I'm actually working on a port of a stock Android 4.3 and when that's working stabile I'll port the paranoid rom for the Wifi and 3g version of the tab 3 8.0.

I just have a lot of work so it'll take some time
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zedaycee:
Looking forward to it.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Schemerlamp:
I am happy to own a device before development is out :)

Verstuurd vanaf mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk 4
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Griffy wiffy:
Hi, Can you post the link on buzznet as i can't find it??

cheers
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] victoradjei:
Buzz removed the upload. He will post it later on :roll:

Victor
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Duan:
It see it is available on the site!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] steverae:
The dump of 1.60c on Buzz's site is only a dump of files from his device that were used for his testing...

The installer package will be released later on this week / early next week, please be patient...

it'll be worth the wait !
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] little_frog:
I confirmed it already reposted by buzz. You can download it now. I already upgrade it to 1.60cWWE, but I didn't see any different.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Squuiid:
Quite a bit speedier, can't see much else different tho.

Thanks for your time and effort Buzz! We appreciate it.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Duan:
Hi Buzz,

Thanks Wooooo Hooooo!!!

Everything works fine!!! The speed increase is wonderful!

I have no words to express my gratitude!! You are da man.

I think a lot of people have been spoilt and miss the big picture! Buzz you have done a great job. Just a small comparison to prove this:

Still Broken:

- The buttons (I would love for these to work, its no biggie)

- MMS (Which I have no need for realy)

Fixed huge problems by using WM2005 vs WM2003:

- Bluetooth works like a dream

- Headset reliably works

- Car kit reliably works

- BT GPS reliably works

- Persistant Memory!!!!

- No lockups

- Faster!!!!

- Battery lasts at least twice as long

- We now have WMP 10

- There are several other benefits that the os brings

Respect to the man with the plan.

Regards,

Duan
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Neel:
hi guys

i have dowloaded the update but how do u install it, and do rekkon it will fix the tomtom5 reseting problem

Cheers

Neel
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Griffy wiffy:
HI all,

intalled 96c but now can't get the extra 32mb storage to appear, unhide then unlock then run Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0.exe, reboot when asked but this cause hard reset and i have no 32nb storage???

can't install voice command, says i have not go enough room?????

currently have

storage 30.53 and program 120.32

any ideas.???????
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Griffy wiffy:
Also tomtom won't install. Installation just crashes right after agreeing to the licence AAAAHHH??????

I followed Buzz's instructions so can't see what i have done wrong???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Neel:
Griffy wiffy- any chance you can tell me how u installed it as i dont understand the instructions that come with it

cheers

Neel
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Griffy wiffy:
Hi Neel, not sure what you are asking. uninstalled what??
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ID64:
Hmmm... I can only see forum on Buzzdev. Where did main page go? :(
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] hch_111:
What about the STK (Sim Tool Kit)?

Is it working as well?

I've tried 1.60h.

I worked flawlessly.

However, I have to go back to WM2003SE coz I really need and use this STK feature everyday.

Can someone tell me where can I find the cure for STK to be used in WM5.0, please?

Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] tukmol:
I have a problem downloading WM 5 v 1.60C. Can somebody upload the ROM please!!!! :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mwilmar:
try this :

http://twosx.net/ppc/WM2k5_1.60c.00WWE_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar

:wink: :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Edi_Min:
WM 2005 v1.60C !!

hi all,

after upgrade to wm 2k5 v. 1.60C

y i cant install program to 128mb storage ??

only can install to 31mb storage

thz for ur ansss
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Neel:
hi

after upgrading to 1.60c.00WWE, has anyone lost there Ram disk thing
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itwasntme187:
im totally confused when it comes to Ramdisk, what on earth is it? does it make the memory available on WM5 more? more than the 60 mb we get for storage??

Sorry i know it's a stupid noob question but i really wanted to know

Cheers

Ash
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Hi, all. Anyone know, on WM2005c Simtoolkit is working???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
I've lost mine too. Thats because I upgraded from 1.6b and I wasn't running the ramdisk.cab then, just used the DOC tool instead. Therefore my ramdisk was wiped out.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Hi itwasntme187, I was also quite confused lately and only after much reading and testings that I got my ramdisk to work.

Ok, in a nutshell, after upgrading to 1.6c, we were presented with 32mb ROM and 128mb program memory. As some of 3rd party softwares also need to be installed in Rom, thus making 32mb a little tight for all these. Therefore you'll have to create a ramdisk in your device to alleviate the problem.

It doesn't give you more memory because you'll have to reduce your program memory (Ram used to run programs) with the size of your ramdisk. ie if you want a 32mb ramdisk, your program memory must be reduced from 128mb to 96mb. To do that you'll need to patch your rom before upgrading to 1.6c.

My current allocation after patching is:

32mb ROM

32mb Ramdisk

96mb Program memory.

Hope that clears your doubts :D

We are all noobs at one point. :wink:

cheers
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] keithhiap:
yes, the speed is much faster, but the issue is still around.

Ramdisk disappear after some time of usage.

Under Memory tab

Storage : is too small, whereby if you copy files or install files, very quickly, it will run out.

Program : Even you select install into Device, it still install into Storage.

If you install into Ramdisk, it loads very slow, which is under performance.

I would love the very old version that i have, but buzzdev.net dont provide any more.

1.50i

if you have do let me know, we can have MSN communication :P
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] muhelen:
Battery Life very BAD in 1.60c

Hi friends,

Have upgraded to 1.60C succesfully. Have one problem. My battery can only last about 75%. When the battery still 75% available it turn off and needs to restart. This has been a problem since my upgrade to WM2003SE (about 30%), WM5 1.60a,b (about 50% only). Does anyone having same problem? Any sollutions? Thanks in advance.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Neel:
Well at least my tomtom 5 resetting problem seems to be solved which is what i wanted more than any thing

Nice one BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

You the Man (or the Plastic Toy)

Neel :lol:

Falcon- i upgraded from b as well which had a ram disk on it, but its no biggie i can live with it for now