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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
My main phone is currently the Nexus 4 and my work phone is the iPhone 4S with ios7, which I'm looking forward to retiring, iOS does nothing for me on mobile any more - plus the wifey wants the 4s as she doesn't like her 5, I do like it on the (aging) iPad 3rd gen for garageband and infinity blade, but that's by the by, I really want to replace it with the Nexus as my work phone and a new phone for my main phone and stop using iOS on mobile completely - the way I see it, there are 2 options, as I would LOVE to go for a windows phone, but even the best of them the Lumia 1020 is old news in terms of hardware, though the system has potential.

The two contenders for best non-vanilla Android phone of the year (it is fair to assume that nothing better will come out this year, excluding the potential Nexus 5) are the Note 3 and the LG G2 (IMO).

The LG kills it in terms of having a very useful feature-packed but still light UI based on the TW roms but it looks to be lag-free and not junked up with too much purely-gimmicky stuff. I like the simple yet innovative move of the unlock/vol/camera button to the back of the phone and the fact that you can customise the main button bar on stock as standard.

The Note 3 goes balls-out blazing with the all-new 3gig ram compared to the 2, massive phablet screen and extra storage, as well as the S-Pen and all of the TW gimmicks, extras and cool features you'd expect. It will have at-least the same snapdragon 800 processor, if not clocked higher, a better battery life and potentially better camera, and there could also be a second octa-core version, also it has a minimum of 32GB storage and an expandable slot (i forget if the LG has a slot) which makes it a perfect media device to boot.

Which will win the battle of the 2013 titans and which would you choose for yourself, and which would you recommend for others (we all know that sometimes we would choose something different as nerds than what we would recommend for others xD)?

So far, I'm leaning towards the Note 3 depending on what price I can get it on a contract with a decent LTE package on, but I'm open to being swayed by the G2.

What are your thoughts?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
If those 2 are your choices I'd say note 3 all day. The only significant feature g2 has over note is the Optical Image Stabilization in my opinion. Don't forget custom roms should equalize any differences in software features between the phones.

You mentioned the lumia 1020, If you actually like Windows Phone 8 and you like taking pictures then get the lumia 1020. You said the hardware is outdated but the thing is, on WP8 hardware is almost never outdated, that os is so damn friendly to the processor/screen/ram. It will probably be a while till 1020 is overthrown in terms of camera quality. (look how long the 808 held its throne). Still that operating system leaves a lot to be desired, maybe the new update will bring more functionality to it. It is beautiful though, no doubt about that...
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DHM078:
For all the comparison I see about the hardware, how similar they are and aren't, and the talk of TW vs whatever LG is using, I think it comes down to something altogether simpler: Do you want a phone or a phablet?

I do understand comparing the other stuff though, and if LG makes a G2 Pro then it'll be pretty relevant. I don't think the hardware difference is that notable. I'm pretty disappointed with the GS4's TW though, and the G2's UI actually seems pretty useful. I will give TW on the Note 3 a fair chance before judging it though. But if it lags and feels as bloated as the GS4's does, it'll probably really irritate me. I'm personally stuck with Verizon, so I'm operating on the assumption of using it completely stock given the trend of them locking things down to hell.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
DHM, I don't see how that matters though seeing as how custom development always alleviates any software woes... I hear the note 3 may be challenging to develop for initially but i doubt that people will have to wait long given how incredibly popular this phone is.

I'm sorry i'm assuming that everyone is comfortable customizing their phones with roms. Given that someone would not deviate from a stock experience then i see how the launcher may affect someones purchasing decision. I guess after using custom roms for the past 5 years i just take that for granted.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jammol:
I'm getting a Note 3 only because the G2 doesn't have expandable sd slot or removable battery. Plus I've never owned a Note device so I'm curious to have one. The GPro is awesome and I plan on keeping it as my personal phone. Note 3 will be for work!:D
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DHM078:
I am perfectly comfortable modifying my phones. I've been using custom software pretty much exclusively basically since I started with smartphones. That's not my point. I have a lot of faith in the developers here, they've accomplished amazing things and have defeated the manufacturers time and time again. But I'm trying not to take it for granted. With how freaking locked up Verizon phones specifically have been as of late, I am not going to buy a phone on the assumption that I'll just be able to toss out the stock stuff. I tend to be pretty optimistic about things getting cracked, but I also think that it will very likely take a while. So I will consider the stock firmware when purchasing a phone as there's a pretty damn good chance I'll be stuck on it for quite some time before it gets cracked.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
A good amount of caution is always wise. Guess everyone just has to weigh what features matter to them most and then try to make an informed decision when selecting between phones.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Pretty sure the note 3 has smart stabilization as well. samsung's take on ois. correct?

and g2 doesnt have sdcard, no removable battery and no stylus throws it out for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
Its got digital which according to the internet is trash compared to optical (almost all phones use digital stabilization). Digital apparently is good for reducing shake during videos but does nothing to fight blur from taking pictures in low light. Low light photography involves dropping the shutter speed allowing more light in, any tremors in the shooters hands can then cause blur in the picture, effectively "smearing" the image over the sensor. Optical Stabilization involves physically moving the lens to compensate for movement while the shutter is open.

I'm going to google the subject some more and see if i can get some comparison shots... I have no idea just how much of a difference optical makes so i'm left with only what i've read and we all know how accurate the internet can be some times...

Update* Well.... according to the internet the answer is.. A lot. Take that with a grain of salt though lmao. here's some comparison shots: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/ISComparison.png/240px-ISComparison.png and http://www.digicamhelp.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/is-on-off_large.jpg
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
there was a video of the g2 showing off the ois and it looked like a joke. let me see if i can find it. friend sent to me in a facebook message. but wasnt impressive to me. and true it may not be true optical but im not that concerned with it. And what you mean the internet is always true!?!?! haha
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
Rofl yeah the T.V. too. I'd be interested to see that video you saw. i'll check back here for updates. I updated my post with supposed pictures of OIS on vs off.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Think this is it.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjcqtCo-bq4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cdmoore74:
This is my dilemma as well. I already have a Note 2 but was thinking about getting something smaller/different. But when you add up everything the Note 3 comes out on top.

Note 3 pro's when compared to the G2

Removable battery

SD card

More Ram

32gig off the bat (I still don't know if the Verizon G2 is 16gig or 32gig)

S-Pen

I like the look off touchwiz better than LG

USB 3

Universal accessories

More popular

Don't know about LG update track record

4.3 out the box

Love the blacks and colors on the screen but not the brightness

LG G2 pro's when compared to the Note 3.

Smaller

$100 less expensive (If at 32gig)

Different phone from the Note series

Double tap to wake out the box

Like the idea of having the buttons on the back

Brighter screen

Better camera with optical image stabilization
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
I havent played with a G2 yet but i dont like the idea of back buttons. awkward hump on the back and tough to get to i think when in hand. And i agree i hate on screen buttons. Samsung buttons at the bottom are just fine with me. I cant remember a time where i accidental closed an app or process due to a button press. I love being able to wake the screen with just a press of the home button. Just as easy as the G2 double tap. Swipe to wake and swipe to sleep would be better like i have on my nexus 7. And Apple does NOTHING YES NOTHING better then android!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CLARiiON:
Panel Self Refresh (PSR) is what LG terms as G-RAM. It has been in Exynos 5250 for a year now.

Also, it has Envelope Tracking tech from Qualcomm, actually the first of it's kind.

Looking at the benchmarks, I think we are looking at higher binned AB version of 800 SOC.

It already has the latest 3GB memory module from Samsung.

I am just waiting to check if they are using the new eMMC 5.0 in GN3.

Motorola has made use of Samsung's F2FS file system in Moto X. It has been very well reviewed by Anandtech. I think Samsung will also start using their F2FS in their products, afterall they designed it.

These are some of the techinical aspects of GN3 I am interested in. I don't think in anyway it's going to have a bad batterylife. Infact Samsung already mentioned in their keynote that they expect 3-4 hours more video playback as compared to GN2. GN2 already had a monster batterylife. This will be even better.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mdalacu:
I hope that you are kidding me.:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xSCHITaX:
Hi.

That are the right questions!

According to the Snapdragon artice on Wikipedia, it has not the faster AB Version of the S800 SoC.

But according to this Benchmark Comparison on GSMarea, I think there is the newer eMMC 5.0 3GB RAM in the Note 3.

:confused:
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cheezusweezel:
Overall Note 3, but G2 for cyanogen-development-support.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CLARiiON:
Wikipedia is not really a good source of information specially when the product is just announced. The GN3 benchmark numbers are very close to MDP results. Samsung never mentions SOC details in their announcement.

Lets wait and see..
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekoRngear:
What N3 has is most probably digital image stabilization, not OIS. I research only a bit and see DIS is inferior to OIS. When the shutter speeds drop after a certain point DIS raises ISO higher. Higher ISO means higher noise. And the more noise reduction is applied the worse is the picture quality. That is what I got from one of the sources.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dalboz:
So CM wont be available for GN3?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
Thank you, that lumia image stabilization is beastly. I had the 1020 for about a week and the camera features are simply amazing. From that video it didn't seem like the g2 has a very effective image stabilizer, still it could pay off in low light pictures if it can adjust for shaky hands. Who knows...
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
yeah i know right. the 1020 is a beast no doubt. and if the g2 has ois it doesnt seem to be working very well. Hope the Note 3 is better then that and still not a turn off for me. Note 3 is an all around better device for me
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itzjonjon69:
I'm actually gonna cancel my pre-order on the N3 and gonna pick up the G2 instead.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maverick777:
Any particular reason why? I'm 99% sure I'm getting the Note 3, but I'm looking at the G2 and waiting on the Nexus 5 as well.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itzjonjon69:
I had the Note 2 and while i loved it i only used the s-pen a few number of times and never used all the features and to be honest and the phone was a little too big for me. I always thought that 5" was the perfect size for a phone and after playing with the phone today at the AT&T store i realized the G2 has almost the same specs as the N3 and is 5.2" and it feels really really nice in the hands. I still think the best feeling phone that i've owned is the HTC DNA, but the G2 is a close second. Another plus side is the G2 is actually cheaper for me (AT&T Next plan) and i'm not really feeling the faux leather backing on the N3.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoff5093:
I have the Note 2 currently and decided between either the G2 or N3. I bought the G2 today.

The screen is absolutely gorgeous, LCD > AMOLED any day. Say what you will, but the color accuracy on LCD is vastly superior than the overblown saturation and off-color of AMOLED, especially at lower brightness. Whites are truly white. This has to be the closest edge-to-edge display out of any phone, literally it looks like the entire front is just the display when you turn it on. I compared it to my S4, and the screen is 0.2" bigger while the phone itself is the same size, if not smaller. Battery is great on both the N3 and G2 given the size of the screen. LG's UI is much better than Touchwiz IMO, a lot more customize-able, fewer gimmicks, less bloat.

I'd say the biggest reason for me is that while I liked the Note 2, it was just slightly too big for me. Having to adjust the phone to reach the notification shade was a pain. The S4 is just a tad too small, so the G2 at 5.2" is the perfect size for me. Not to mention it's $100 cheaper as well.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbaruch76:
please stop doing this to me. i had just settled on waiting for the note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoff5093:
Haha, well your best bet is to wait and test them both out in store and see what you like most. The G2 won me over so much that I didn't have to wait for the N3, watching the Samsung presentation decided that for me. As much as I hate to say it, Samsung is becoming a bit like Apple and using their phones as accessory pieces, talking about colors and all the cool cases you can get.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] non1oson:
one is a phone and the other is a phablet. only thing the g2 has going is thin bezel. a lot more thin than the note3.

note3 is hands down an overall better device for my needs. I have no problems with the note2 being large. what I do realise though is some people have huge phones, then I realise they are note1 and 2s -_-

yet the note2 in my hands feels like the norm. haha
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itzjonjon69:
You pretty much hit the nail on the head... I had the MotoX for a week and i hated the AMOLED, and after using the HTC One LCD i can't go back! The edge to edge display on the G2 really is amazing.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
Can't wait to try both out instore!

Imagine a play edition note with just the spen features added :D

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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
I like your thinking, I too never upgrade to the latest version of my model as know it will be literally just an upgrade, but I go for something entirely new. Instead if upgrading from iPhone 3gs to i4 I went wp7 on HTC, then instead of upgrading to wp8 lumia I went to iPhone 4s, and then needed a second phone so I went with s3 which I later traded for anexus4. Always something completely new is miles better than a direct upgrade IMO.

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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] V@no:
How much out of 32gb is left free on G2? 24gb? or less? IMO people who say "32gb is enough for me" do nothing with the phone and 3 years old phone would probably fully satisfy their needs..

Also as far as I know, LG is terrible with support of their devices. After fiasco of LG Nitro HD one would have to pay me, for me use anything LG...
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jodiuh:
I've had the chance to compare the G2 w/ my old Note 2 for a few days now. IMO, the G2 runs hot...like Gnex hot, but all over the phone. Google the pocket lint review for another reference. The video camera hitches and theres a brightness bug as well.

Even w/ all that I'm having a tough time returning it. The phone HAULS. The display ROCKS. The formfactor is PERFECT. Going back to the Note 2 causes fits of rage due to the lag, hurts my eyes with the fuzzy text, and makes me agonize in pain over the ridiculous size and weight.

I am torn. :/
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jocelyn:
Well if you're on AT&T you apparently get Carrier IQ with the G2 - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2447383
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clninja:
I played with a g2 today at my store and I must say it is a beautiful phone with a beautiful screen. Volume buttons and power button would take some getting used to and I think they are a bit awkward. I will be getting the note 3 as ny first phablet class device
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jodiuh:
Its about the size of New York too!

*da da da bing!*
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bongbongcong:
why on earth LG G2 & Xperia Z1 have all the buttons (Home + Menu + Back) on screen on it? Don't you think its nicer all the buttons in outside the screen like Note 3. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jodiuh:
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrashTestDroid:
Better still to have the option of either :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jodiuh:
No way dude. I don't want to live by any onscreen button lovers. Ship them off to an island w/ iTunes lovers.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
I would go for note 3 if money is not an issue. G2 is a good phone but lg phones tend to lag quite often more often then samsung. Also more support development with N3. Better camera and video recording better and louder speakers.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mintu123:
Did u forget lg feat. When u want the turn screen brightness to full you get error ..can't raise brightness because of temp....Samsung don't have that feature...that's lg invention. S
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ma2k5:
:/ I pre-ordered the Note 3 yesterday, now after reading about the G2, I cancelled it. Not sure if I made the right call but there you go.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raychak:
i changed from note2 to g2 few weeks ago, what i can say is g2 is a very good phone but as a user of n2, i really feel that the screen of g2 is still too small and i don't like the virtual keys, it is very uncomfortable to use.

i just sold my g2 and have fun with my n3 now... g2 feeling with larger screen and the physical keys back! most important, i feel that the body of n3 built is much better than g2.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mingkee:
There is NO comparison.

I definitely need removable battery and SD card (currently my 64GB SD is nearly full and I have to get 128GB or even 256GB), and G2 simply can't fulfill my need. Even my Note 2 is better than G2 for the reasons above.

The back plate can be easily exchanged if it broken.

I have to carry couple of extra batteries and I have to replace it occasionally if there's no AC or USB outlet available.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] staryoshi:
The Note 3 doesn't have a competitor on the market. If you desire anything resembling the Note feature set, there are no other compelling choices as of yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jammol:
Huh? Lag more? Really?!

I'm pretty sure the S4 suffered the most lag out of any of the phones made with the s600. Check your facts.

Thankfully the N3 doesn't lag that I've seen. But that Knox stuff is steering me away.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
I disagree but i see what you mean. The Note 3 is the best feature packed phone and is unique. The G2 is somewhat a good competitor because it is a beast, performs very well, has a big screen as well and has a couple of nice features. So i can see ppl debating between the 2 but when you really look at both phones capability overall, the Note 3is simply unmatched.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daddioj:
I had the G2 the day it released at is the phone gorgeous. its fast and the camera is amazing but a few people told me I sounded muffled on there end. so it kind of turned me off. because yes I still use my phone as a phone.

so I preordered the note 3. if the note 3 does not do it for me I am going back to the G2. or waiting for nexus 5
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
I did read a couple of reviews saying the same as you as far as phone calls.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hendrickson:
I have both and its a close call. If camera video is important to you. Get the G2 with the OIS its much better as a camcorder.

Both have great screens, but the g2's is sharper and brighter. The n3 more vivid. Music on the n3 is better than the g2 as is the loudspeaker but only a little louder.

4k looks amazing if its kept still (Tripod is a must)

If larger screen real-estate is what you like and watching movies etc. Get the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
Octa n3 or Snapdragon?

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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ArcWolf:
If you had both, which would be your daily driver? I think the G2 is a lot less niche.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dk_iceman:
I have both.. I love them both, but when it comes to it I prefer the NOTE 3.... I find it more interesting and useful..

The G2 is a solid and nice phone, I do actually notice a bit of lag sometimes.

If the NOTE 3 wasn't on the market the G2 would be my only phone
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
I think the g2 gets non nexus, non phablet phone of the year award :D I wonder how the new Lumia phablet leaked today will fare against the note 3?

I think it is fair to say that the note 3 gets mobile device of the year award (I don't think surface pro 2 counts as it is more of an ultra book in tBlet form)

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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
I have decided that if I get the money that I'm hoping to get next week then I'll buy the note 3 :D

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