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[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Sure. Like any fingerprint sensor. But if you research it, it is outside the scope of most people to achieve this without some serious cash.

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Sure, and show me a normal person who can do this (the printer itself costs thousands). And this is not a new "trick". It has been around since the invention of fingerprint sensor.

And speaking of waking up, that fingerprint scanner in the iPhone is more secure than the pattern lock on Android. You don't need thousands of dollars to look at the screen smudges to guess the screen lock pattern.
[Nexus 5 General] mailboy1412:
Guys and gals, why are we arguing? If some people think it's not a big upgrade, let them be, don't feed them. Majority of us here will get the Nexus 5 anyway if Google price it right and Google probably will.
[Nexus 5 General] jwhatts:
Would you consider undervolting to get better battery life? That and/or a custom kernel would greatly improve the battery life. For example, I get something like 9ish hours with moderate use, and all I have is Franco kernel, not even undervolted.
[Nexus 5 General] IRX120:
Google wants you to buy content from them and use their streaming services. Simple as that, Samsung and HTC don't care either way, but Google wants you to pay for more space up front and then pay for music/apps/games and use their cloud

Sent from my Nexus 4 [NEO@1.836 GHz] on [PSX v7.1 4.3]
[Nexus 5 General] bp328i:
I'm with both of you on this. I do love the Nexus but the software does get a little boring at times. Yes there are a ton of ROM's for the Nexus 4 but to be honest there is not much difference between any of them (a few different options here or there) and I mean no disrespect to any devs. I'm also sure that there will be plenty of AOSP ROM's for the Note 3 within a few months so if I get tired of TW I can run AOSP and then when I get tired of AOSP I can run TW,

I also like the fact that I can pop in a 64gb SD card and if I need to remove the battery I can. The physical buttons do not bug me one little bit because it means I get to use the full 5.7 display at all times.

Honestly I will probably pickup the Nexus 5 a few months down the road but for me my daily driver will be the Galaxy Note III.
[Nexus 5 General] qpqpqp:
I can accept that, but it's not logical. Storage is a necessary resource that can not be replaced by streaming. I think it's more like they want us to stay online so they can keep control of our handset and it's data. Don't think people realized it but Google is mining information from our cellphones.
[Nexus 5 General] Svardskampe:
Hell no. It seems that I'm one of the few sane people still here who thinks about what he spends. I do two years with a phone, and not a day less. I used my samsung galaxy s1 for about 2,5y, which was €300 at the time of purchase, and I just got the n4 in the recent sales for 200 pounds=€260 total with shipping and everything.

It's expensive enough as it is. In no reality I'm going to lay down more than 300 euros for a phone, and even that is a lot. Over the course of 2y, Im still spending about €23 a month then with subscription+phone. (Got mobile vikings NL: 1,5GB for €15 a month, but with some added benefits, so that costs me €135 a year.)

So that'll be €520 over the course of 2y. Which is still 20 too much imo.

I hope the nexus after the nexus 5 will be made by motorola (and friggin shipped to europe. Seems like motorola doesnt WANT to sell their phones....). Maybe I'll consider it then.
[Nexus 5 General] cobyman7035:
If its 350cdn for 16gb, ill upgrade

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[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
I agree with you abit but in my case I can upgrade as I can sell my N4 for £150 and pay £140 to upgrade to the N5 (depending if its the same price again... anything over £170 and i wont!) and on top of that my contract with three (the one plan) costs £8.5 a month so I can upgrade and pay a similar amount to you per month every year... I see it costs a bit more over the NL to get mobile data unfortunately :(.

Rock on nexus 5!
[Nexus 5 General] Svardskampe:
Ye, it hasn't always been this way. There used to be plans for like €5 with 800 mb and such, but seeing as they are like €12 now. The telecom companies have already got a fee for illegal price negotiations btw, but they simply /care

It's a good thing Neelie Kroes wants to make telecom a european thing, rather than a national case.

(And it also doesn't help Google don't sell their phones in the NL or BE...You have to import them from germany, france or the UK. Germany is the "cheapest" if you don't have to pay for the "guy-in-between")
[Nexus 5 General] jcmaddox1:
The other LG phones didnt see too much love by certain devs because they could flash normal nexus 4 Roms, the LG G2 will be able to flash N5 Roms and have them work perfectly from what i've heard.
[Nexus 5 General] justin11141:
I'm going to UPGRADE...but I don't know if I want to go with the note 3 nexus 5 or iPhone 5S :banghead:
[Nexus 5 General] GT247:
Is the reason people like nexus devices because they're decently priced with decent hardware or because they like plain "blah" android?

I don't mean to disrespect nexus fans I'm just curious to my questions
[Nexus 5 General] :
Both. I would say mainly for android the way Google meant it to be without carrier's or manufacturer's bloatware. Also, it's a easy device to install custom ROMS and root.
[Nexus 5 General] Mach3.2:
My gut feeling is the decently priced hardware, the Q&A sections wasn't that cluttered 1-2 years back..

Beamed from my Maguro
[Nexus 5 General] GT247:
Thanks to both of you for replying.

:)
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
For me the reason for getting a nexus is simple... I like open devices such as flashing new rooms and getting the latest android available, I had the HTC hd2 when it came out and that was awesome because such a large developer community it really was the best phone at the time, loved windows (guilty pleasure) and it also had android support pretty early so I got a taste of it, upgraded to the optimus 2x after the hd2 ended it's contract by smashing the screen after I decided to keep it on pay as you go :(

The o2x was good but the software support from LG was horrendous and nvidia played a big role in that (Samsung phone using same software took a similar time frame!) and it wasn't even good software at the beginning :( so I vowed to avoid nvidia hardware or to at least have great software support which is why I go with nexus devices... I always wanted a nexus but they were more expensive than their standard counterparts so I couldn't justify it but now Google has been going on a subsidising spree it opened up the n4 to me as it was a price point I can accept :).

So in short... Awesome software support from Google places a part and the hardware being subsidised means it's great value.
[Nexus 5 General] GT247:
I miss windows mobile so much lol lol

I still have my 2 winmo htc's, I doubt they'll ever part from me.....my 8525 and my rhodium...the rhodium dual boots winmo/froyo, I'm still wanting an hd2 from australia haha

I'm glad you guys are responsive to my question, we all like what we like for our own reasons but I'm not sure we ask around why others like what they like and there's no wrong answer when it comes to that (unless its an iphone lol jk if any fan of those sees that)

I have 4 android phones, none are nexus, and I wanted to know what the general reasons fans of them had for liking them :)
[Nexus 5 General] lombardo8:
Can you really sell a used 16GB N4 for £150. A brand new one with 1 year warranty costs £209 including shipping on the Play Store.

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Good question mate. I dont flash/root but I hate phones that are locked to carriers. I was an HTC man and always bought my HTC phones sim free. I'll be honest the price of the N4 swayed me and not Vanilla Android. Infact I got my N4 free cause I won a TV from LG which I sold for £290.
[Nexus 5 General] GT247:
lombardo8,

I appreciate the honesty....cost factors into my devices as well.....I haven't been on contract for for 6 years or so...I have an old unlimited data/calls/text plan not available anymore which I can keep as long as I want to .....upgrading my device through my carrier gives me an awesome discount but it also renews my contract so I buy devices cash elsewhere , that being the case, I look for good pricing lol

Also, once I've set a phone up the way I want, the time and effort I dedicate to doing it also makes me very attached to it and so parting with it or "moving on" from it makes it more difficult to do...hardware is what will drive me to want something newer and software wise, well, that comes from manufacturers actually, seeing as how everything on the market and xda runs on just about everything...so yeah, hardware is where it's at for me....which has me wondering now, lately....how much more I'll really want if after stepping up to a 2.+ghz quad core I can't imagine needing anything faster or powerful so it'll really be a hurdle for manufacturers to clear pretty soon to entice some of us, I think
[Nexus 5 General] sigma392:
Staying with my Nexus 4. Money doesn't grow on trees and it's hard to sell a non-Samsung phone where I live. :p
[Nexus 5 General] luiseteyo:
I hate when people write loooong posts

lol
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I like it because it gets updates to new OS's immediatley where if you own a Samsung or HTC devide right now odds are they won't update it to Kit-Kat and next year to whatever the new OS is. Having a Nexus device you at least know that you will be updated for years to come and by going with the unlocked version there are no carriers to get in the way of your timely update either.

If HTC and Samsung would support their devices for 2-3 years with timely updates to new versions of Android I think it might be a whole different ballgame. But also remember, buying a top notch device for under $400 with no contract is pretty hard to pass up as well.
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Sorry I got it wrong, the price has changed but I can sell it for £139, thats enough for me :P

http://uk.webuy.com/phones/product.php?mastersku=SLGE96016GB&sku=SLGE96016GBUNLA#.Ukq35IaUR6w

(the phone is mint, case and stuff)

Doesnt really require any effort apart from me walking into town on a weekend to sell it :).
[Nexus 5 General] Svardskampe:
The reason for me for going for the n4 was a simply meeting my requirements.

1. Device needs to be supported by the community. Not necessarily open, but if something leaked or exploit is found its alright by me. At least when there are multiple kernels to choose from, and at least a Cm build and AOSP build it's fine

2. Not over 300 euros

3. Decently fast. Doesn't have to be top spec but as long as it's fast enough. 1ghz duo core seems to do the trick as I needed my n4 to that to save battery.

4. If it's available, I'm going for fairly rigid phone. This reason is actually what held me back for getting the n4 for so long.

5. Camera button. Really miss it... :(
[Nexus 5 General] MrCapcom:
Wife Dropped her Galaxy Nexus so many times its on its last legs so i'll end up giving her my N4 probally load up Cyanogen or something on it with the LTE hack and give it to her and get myself the Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
well..the n5 isnt gonna be a top notch device i tell u that right now

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[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
Yeah its not going to be a top notch device it's going to be The top notch device haha.

On the flip side... What makes you think that ? What is your definition of top notch?
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Quad core snapdragon 800 processor, 1080p screen, top GPU chip.

Yeah, your right. Sounds pretty low end to me.

Oh, and go ahead and tell me it is not top end because it does not have the same 13mp camera as the G2. Please have more to go on then that because from what we have seen so far, spec wise it is on par or better then every other top end Android device out right now.
[Nexus 5 General] GT247:
I don't think he was trying to offend anyone with his comment...

I don't think he was trying to offend anyone with his comment....therefore I don't think there's a reason to take offense, or reply in an offensive manner.

the specs we've been given for the device are "good" specs....some are high end specs, like the processor.....but realistically, it's not a "top end" device, and I don't mean to offend either so please don't take offense when I say that the n5 doesn't have expandable memory does it? to many people that fact in and of itself makes it a lesser device than something with the same processor or close to it that have 3 times the amount of expandable memory, so the device is lesser, plain and simple.

I m quite sure the member who made the post you're replying to would say it's an awesome device for the price (if the price is reasonable of course) but he was clarifying it's not "high end"....even the manufacturer won't claim it as their "high end" line...most people know nexus devices are great devices for the price
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
nvm..top notch device would be..a top notch device haha..i just wish it was slightly better than what we have on the market

do u think it will out perform the htc one..g2..moto..etc?
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
This is just based on the leaked specs as we really don't know for sure what is true or not.

Based on specs, yes it will out perfom the HTC One. It will have a better cpu and not have a whole Sense overlay on it. Heck my N4 is just as smooth or smoother then HTC One.

Assuming you mean the Moto X? Of course, that device is currently spec'd lower then our N4 right now.

The G2, I am expecting it to probably be on par with it but still run smoother because of no overlay.

So now can you tell me how the N5 will not be a hight end device?
[Nexus 5 General] cas8180:
It will definitely be interesting to see what we get and what price point we get it at. I can't help but think that xoami really set the bat with there new MI3 series phones. Pretty close to g2 or s4 specs for $330
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
u got a point i just hope that the camera including the front one which always gets neglected are not a let down
[Nexus 5 General] deftone_86:
I love my Nexus 4 but I'm missing LTE and a bigger screen so count me in!
[Nexus 5 General] Stixxbixby:
Try using a custom rom with full screen (no nav or status bars) & downloading the LTE radios (assuming u have coverage?) - it's a whole new world :)

Although the N5 should be quite sweet as well...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] deftone_86:
Yeah at the moment I'm actually using my own build based on CM 10.2 in full screen mode with PIE and Halo...but I still want a bigger screen :D Especially now that I tried out the LG G2 today :P I tried to do the LTE radio thing too but N4 doesn't support the 4G frequencies used in my country :/
[Nexus 5 General] Emama:
Bigger screen and almost the same battery, good luck:p
[Nexus 5 General] calyxim:
I am really tempted to get a nexus 5 but, a big BUT;

Nexus 4 is still the fastest phone on the market. The upgrade will be minor like a bit better camera, tiny little bit faster and that's it. Not sure whether it's worth...
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
What about the iPhone 5S, G2, One, S4 Gpe, etc...?
[Nexus 5 General] gotzaDroid:
It'll depend on the specs. But it would be nice to not have to worry about where I put my phone down into!
[Nexus 5 General] lwfb:
No, it's not, plain and simple. It's trumped by the S6 SoC which is in turn trumped by the S8 SoC. The G2 runs circles around my nexus 4 and that's with a bloated LG skin.

This new nexus will be more than a "tiny little bit faster." Not to mention it will have a much better screen, better radios (mobile network, WiFi and Bluetooth), and a better camera. The battery technology today is much better as well. I'm sick of people quoting the mah and saying that it will be crap. My new nexus 7 has a smaller battery than my old one and it lasts longer and sips less power overall, with a higher resolution screen and faster CPU to boot.
[Nexus 5 General] SymbioticGenius:
Not to nitpick but the battery tech hasn't changed drastically but the software optimization is insane at this level of Android. I can't wait for the Galaxy S5 so I can CM that bad boy with a Zero lemon battery and have the same software, better hardware and a battery that just won't quit...

Oh wait, wrong thread
[Nexus 5 General] namartlu:
the screen size is not much bigger than Nexus 4, will there be noticeable difference?
[Nexus 5 General] TDBearCT:
I am looking to upgrade IF the LTE bands for AT&T are supported (which looks to be the case, based on the preliminary data). As much as I love my N4, using it with HSPA+ on AT&T is not an awe inspiring experience.

I'm hoping the price point is in the $300-$350 range, close to the price I would pay for a Note 3 on contract.
[Nexus 5 General] hasanandnexus:
kitkat waiting :D
[Nexus 5 General] Fall Guy:
Android Police have what is claimed to be a draft service manual

Specs from it

The document also gives us a peek at most of the device's specs, confirming and expanding upon recent rumors – here's a quick rundown of what it reveals.

4.95" 1080p display (IPS TFT for those interested)

32GB internal storage (other capacities not specified)

2GB RAM

MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz

8MP OIS rear camera, 1.3MP front camera

2300mAh battery

Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure

Slimport compatibility

Micro SIM slot

Notification light

Wireless charging

NFC

Bluetooth 3.0 (We assume this is an error – Bluetooth 4.0 appears elsewhere in the document, but according to the last page it's still a draft.)

UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-32gb-storage-8mp-ois-camera-photos-and-more/

The bigger storage is the main pull for me
[Nexus 5 General] danyf90:
my area is not covered by LTE and i'm no interested to the other improvements so i'll keep my N4 for (at least) another year :D
[Nexus 5 General] hutzdani:
Don't know what to do now the full manual has leaked.

The LTE is good but the price for LTE is too high on most operators in the UK and you get low data limits e.c.t

Yeah the N5 will match my N7 (2013) but unless the battery optimization is amazing the lack of capacity will hold me back.

My N4 battery is hit and miss across CM/PA/Stock sometimes it lasts a day sometimes it lasts 8 hours, its getting stupid now CPUs are so powerful e.c.t that battery tech is almost neolithic !

TBH I want a phone that lasts two days and has N4 performance, you can throw CPU and GPU numbers at me all you like but it makes no difference to a Normal user ( Emails / Facebook / Browsing / the odd video / try a game and uninstall because most game son phones are rubbish after 5 mins of playing )

The only selling point for me as a N4 user is the faster camera / QI charging / Notification light.

Google need to wake up now and fix things like :

Battery

Storage + SD card slots

Durability

Phones are no more than capable for 90% of users day to day usage, if your using your phone to play games ( I mean proper games not Angry Birds e.c.t ) daily your kidding your self.

The Market is Stale, you can have all your Galaxy this that and what not, but the fact is no phone lasts long enough !

Apple are good at this ( how ever much I hate all their special Leads and must use Itunes e.c.t ), Sammy bundle too many gimmicks and plastic tat, google are almost there but battery always lest them down.

My N4 vs my fathers Iphone 3g and hes on day 2 while Im charging.

if google can solve the battery issues im sold, untill then i'll wait with baited breath for a Great build phone and reasonable battery life
[Nexus 5 General] lalec:
With better battery stats and System Tuner you can take control over what is consuming your battery. Many people get battery life that is better than an iphone.
[Nexus 5 General] SymbioticGenius:
Also if the new Motorola line up is any indication, google is able to get longer lasting times out of their batteries nowadays
[Nexus 5 General] nyyankees1237:
Let's hope so because 2300mah is a joke 'nowadays'.
[Nexus 5 General] RootTheMachine:
I feel unusually spoiled in saying this, but I really want to buy the new one right when it comes out. I really don't know why, but I do. Even though I can barely even afford it.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
I'll be getting it along with most other Nexus / XDA addicts!

Pending $ amount...
[Nexus 5 General] Nezam:
wont buy

Sent from my Nexus⁴ running franco's kernel (AOSP)
[Nexus 5 General] yabbandroid:
I think i wont because the n4 is still great dont see how android would be any smoother on the n5 and the n4 looks much more sophisticated than the ugly n5 renderings
[Nexus 5 General] deftone_86:
Yeah I have to hope that the phone gets some great custom kernels to improve the battery life like the N4 does :P
[Nexus 5 General] Flippy125:
I think the people trying to say the N5 is a tiny upgrade are just trying to convince themselves they don't want it. Bigger and better screen, way faster chipset, no glass back, better camera. I am slightly disappointed in the lack of an ir blaster though.
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
The glass back was a pretty design... The other things are debatable.

I don't need 1080 when nothing I do would benefit from that, I would prefer 1080 on a tablet where I read my ebooks for school. And while the soc is faster I don't play phone games so the GPU is pointless, the CPU probably will lead to a difference in seconds(I use 1ghz and I'm fine). Camera would be nice, but I don't use it to much really.

Overall I would be better off using the money towards a PS4, bay trail tablet, or anything else with more of a purpose.
[Nexus 5 General] bobola:
Would wait for the review first!

Plus don't want to spend money on it when PlayStation 4 coming up!
[Nexus 5 General] Treshy:
ill wait till ps4 slim or something and here is why: my 320 gb ps3 is completely full and these games are pretty small...

ps4 only has 500 gb when its rumored that games will be 50gb+ big... so i will wait till at least 1tb ps4 comes out...

day 1 Upgrade to nexus 5 is sure because my current phone sucks (not nexus 4)

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[Nexus 5 General] TacticalDesire:
I'm upgrading for the better camera and hopefully much better battery. Everything else is gravy.
[Nexus 5 General] BLADESMAN1889:
I will defo upgrade - but not til the new year. There is no way I'm getting sucked into the hype as i did with the N4. The phone was only in stock for 30 mins on release day [UK 11/10] and then back in stock Dec for a week.

Then it was Jan 30 and thats when it all got cleared of backlogs and mine came on feb 1st.
[Nexus 5 General] cobyman7035:
Depends on the price

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[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
Your money would be better spent on a surface 2.

/s
[Nexus 5 General] Vazduh:
The purchase will depend on price, availability on non-playstore countries, android 4.4 improvements, next years specs trend and feedback provided by the reviewers. Until then, my nexus 4 will do the job. Cheers!
[Nexus 5 General] spacemanvt:
I think I will be skipping the Nexus 5 as I travel alot outside of the US and will not be able to fully benefit from the LTE bands... otherwise the processor, screen and space bumps look great but my Nexus 4 is still working great. My main gripe with the Nexus 4 is the battery, doesn't look like the next refresh is solving that.... unless Snapdragon 800 has alot of power optimization.
[Nexus 5 General] jadephyre:
I just got my N4 a week ago, i'll definately be keeping it for a while.

I'm very much looking forward to Android 4.4, but I don't really need the latest and greatest in Hardware, i'm too old to participate in the stupid upgrade race.

The last phone I got was the GNex, and that was a year ago, so each phone will last at least that long.
[Nexus 5 General] J-Izzle:
i think i will, but later. my nexus is still a beast .i wont upgrade just for (offical) lte . guess i will buy the nexus 5 after 1/2 year or so...