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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bradh024:
Im still trying to wrap my head around this, Im used to unlocking the bootloader and going...... Anyway though, I am on MI1. Would I be able to flash a ME7 rom with the kernel file on my phone? I want to load up HD, but i dont want to bork my phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kalestew:
I'm running hyper drive 10.2 with safestrap and all works perfectly with my MI1 device(not that I would not kill for some smart sole to unlock that damn bootloader) . PM me and I can give you instructions for using Oden or Hiemdell on Mac or Linux
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
If you're on MI1, then the kernel that you're booted into is MI1. You can't flash a ROM that needs the ME7 kernel.

However, that being said, the Safestrap compatible ROMs aren't that picky. You flash the ROM, then flash the kernel modules that correspond to the kernel on your phone.

What you can't do is to install the ME7 kernel on your phone. Once you take an update, you can't downgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bradh024:
Ok, with that said, I just got done flashing HD 10.2. Followed directions, and afterwards flashed the mk7/mi1 module file. Booted the rom and my wifi was broke. Now my question is, should I have flashed the mi1 module thats posted in the development thread rather than the one thats in this thread's OP?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Yes sir.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bradh024:
Thanks alot, it fixed it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
Oh man I just learned something today then (and its still early!). ;) So when RLS11 comes out and hopefully safestrap is updated I will be able to do the 4.3 upgrade to MI1 and then install RLS11

with the optimized kernel

, then the kernel modules and be happy. In the stock slot (as I am now).

I did not know the optimized kernel was possible. Sounds like it is as long as the correct modules are in place.

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Ok excuse the ignorance..... I just jumped into this phone since monday.

I first rooted via the SdCard method on ME7 then installed safestrap 3.65. I Now have her all modded out and love it but would like to have MJ7 with safestrap. I have found a way to root MJ7 by VROOT but is there a way to have safestrap after that?

Also if you are able to do all of that can you Odin back to a stock MJ7?

whew I know that was alot but as you can see I have gotten myself very confused since monday..... I have rooted many phones and had many Recoveries.... but none were as confusing as this beast.....

Thanks so much for your help in advance guys....

Ps. I guess if there is no Safe strap for MJ7 yet I will just chill here on ME7 with safestrap for a while. (again is there a safestrap for MJ7?)

Ps. ps. is there a way to flash some of the goodies from 4.3 such as the open GL ES 3.0?

THANKS and BIGGER THANKS TO HASH CODE!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuckintheskull:
No safestrap for MJ7 yet. Hashcode has said he is getting a MJ7 device next week to work on it. Yes you can Odin back to Stock MJ7.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Thankyou for the quick response and information. So is there any way to just flash the open gl es 3.0?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] remf4i:
So with this we can only flash 4.2.2 ROMS ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
You can only flash ROMs that are compatible with the stock kernel. It's possible to modify ROMs to be compatible with the stock kernel.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
Please help this Sammy noob, see my sig for the rest of my bkgd.

Hashcode, or anyone, please explain the above quote- I don't get what (FLASH THIS AFTER THE ROM) means; there don't seem to be any MI1 roms you can flash with Safestrap; so I must be missing something… I have the jfltevzw-MI1-modules zip on my external sd card, but I'm afraid to flash it at this point, as I have everything on the Unsafe side … b/c I know of no roms… else I'd put all my working files on Slot1 & have no prob w/Stock side as I'd only have the base OS there & all my 'playing' would be done on the Safe side - courtesy of Hashcode's great util…

tia, oldwolf :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
Pretty sure that Amy of the 4.2.2 roms work worth me7/mi1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
todd, thanks for the speedy reply, but what is 'Amy of 4.2.2 roms'?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adavit:
I think he meant ANY of the roms that are based on 4.2.2 are safe to flash.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
adavite, thanks for clearing that up, but what about my other question: is the MI1 module zip _only_ for after flashing a rom? & all roms I've seen don't seem to work for any firmware above ME7… please, if anyone can point me to an MI1 friendly rom; I'd love to hear…

thanks in advance, oldwolf
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djmcho:
Call Verizon, pay $10 for an extra 2gb on your phone and just wait for hashcode to release the MJ7 SS with modules... LOL

(Yes I'm half serious)

---------- Post added at 08:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:37 PM ----------

arg. trying not to slam you ...

can you either read the entire discusssion post before you post again because all your questions have been answered over and over.

in short... if you went past ME7 then you are borked like the rest of us until hashcode graciously releases an update.... at which out of his own pocket... he bought a new phone just to write a SS update for us on the new boot loaders (past ME7) - be patient man. dont ruin it for us all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
dmjcho, not looking to 'talk back', I get it that we shouldn't push Hashcode, but actually, I was only asking about the use of the modules zip file, not anything like 'so when are we gonna see…'.

& btw, I just got my S4, & scrupulously kept it at MI1, so I could use Hashcode's wonderful SS to give me nand backups - & I posted a thanks to him for that…

In terms of reading thru 90+ pages, you are right, but a little forbearance, please, while getting my apps & data back fm my prev phone, researching extended batteries, & other stuff- I'm a little overwhelmed… thanks in advance for any help & understanding :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
What you're asking about is part of the process, so you're asking to have it re-explained.

When you're flashing a new ROM into a ROM slot using Safestrap, you put the ROM image onto your sdcard along with the kernel modules for the base ROM you're running. You boot into Safestrap, select a slot, the flash the ROM. Then, before you reboot, you flash the kernel modules. Now you're done.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
k1mu, thanks for the input, since I haven't had this phone long - I'm not as familiar w/the strategical ins & outs & your explanation really helped.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
Small update for the MJ7 folks: the new MJ7 device should be shipped out tomorrow or Wed. (weather depending) so it will probably be here by early next week.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] oldwolf613:
Excellent!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Thanks so much for your Awesomeness!!!:cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Hashcode Please Help answer these questions!

Hashcode could you weigh in on this from another thread... it involves the new Safestrap that you most graciously are making.

from thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2504408&page=25

Sooo will these combined methods get the job done? Or like budding developer said is it not possible?

If so then will this work?

(watch you tube video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mCsDyW-TI&app=desktop

So lots of questions and looping there.... but as you can see I am just trying to get root and safestrap on MJ7 while keeping all of my settings and data and apps.

Thanks so much in advance.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Arsenic1234:
So for those of us who just bought the phone and got such with mj7...my options are v root or a soon to be realised hopefully safe strap option? I am coming from a DROID RAZR maxx so well versed in root and safe strap but had no idea my new phone would be so limited. I just wanted to flash the Google play edition to remove some of this crap but I am not sure that's possible yet. Only v root and xposed framework I believe. Any other options?

QUOTE=swc2001;48349005]Hashcode could you weigh in on this from another thread... it involves the new Safestrap that you most graciously are making.

from thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2504408&page=25

Sooo will these combined methods get the job done? Or like budding developer said is it not possible?

If so then will this work?

(watch you tube video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5mCsDyW-TI&app=desktop

So lots of questions and looping there.... but as you can see I am just trying to get root and safestrap on MJ7 while keeping all of my settings and data and apps.

Thanks so much in advance.[/QUOTE]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Well when Hashcode gets your safestrap you will be good to go (I would just wait for that if I were you)...... I just got my S4 on black Friday. Luckily it asked me if I wanted to update to Mj7.... I promptly declined and blocked the OTA's. If I am not mistaken though...... can't you Odin back to ME7 from MJ7? Ask someone smarter than me before you try.... cuz I know if you tried that on other phones it could easily brick it.... so again ask a smart Dev before attempting that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sharkie405:
you can't odin back from MJ7. I tried. A softbrick quickly followed....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Arsenic1234:
So root, block any more OTA's, and be patient is I believe the best course of action.

Any that chinese vroot is my only option for this baseband at this time right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] riker147:
Correct. vRoot and Kingo are the only options for root. Both have been deemed "unsafe" by some, so use at your own risk. As of right now MJ7 users have no options for custom recovery and Safestrap is not compatible.......... yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Can't wait to be able to flash 4.3 because Hyperdrive 11 is supposed to come out today..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
You guys have a new update incoming. I'd avoid it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
What update? 4.3 or 4.4? Or something in between?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
MK2 4.3 maintenance release.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Thats on At&t right? Is there an update to MJ7 for Verizon?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
No, not AT&T. This update is for VZW S4.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...-samsung-chargers-to-work-fixes-other-issues/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
Not any more. :laugh:

See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758 for how to root your MJ7 device without vroot.

Now I'm REALLY excited to see Hashcode get Safestrap working!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Is your root method a full blown root? If not..... what are its limitations?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
It's "full blown" to the extent that I can do what I need - modify system files, run Titanium, etc. I'll be playing with xposed framework next to see what it can do. It's still subject to whatever limitations SELinux imposes, but this root, thanks to Chainfire's SuperSU, gets the job done as far as I can tell,

It does not, as is true for all of the I545 builds since MDK, allow you to install custom recovery or a custom kernel. The bootloader remains locked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
What limitations does the selinix impose? Is there anything that the Vroot root will do that yours does not? I am not trying to make you sound like a hack.... I am just uneducated on this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
As far as I can tell, very little of consequence.

I can't turn SELinux off using "setenforce", but I may be able to do that using other means. I'll eventually play with that once the root method is stable.

Basically, it's everything you got from rooting with vroot without the closed-source concerns.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Arsenic1234:
Return?

So it would seem the MJ7 isn't the end of the world, with some people finding work arounds for the root issue.

I am still within my 14 days, should I return my phone back to best buy and see if I can find an older baseband?

Would that even provide much more then I currently have?

Meaning, are there roms or something else availble to older basebands which I will not be able to use on MJ7?

Just trying to weigh my options, it would seem I can root, and exposed framework some things, and safestrap might be coming...

So if I safestrap then perhaps roms will follow?

I really just something like the google play edition rom, which is clean and not filled with all his samsung app crap.

So any thoughts appreciated-
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
Good luck with finding a MDK phone...that is the only one where an boot loader exploit was found and custom recovery and. Custom kernels and Roms can be Loki'd. Safestrap allows ME7 to be loaded with tw 4.2 stock kernel Roms...perhaps mi7 can be accommodated by ss too. Hash may have a ss port for mj7 in next few weeks. Rooting mj7 is starting to be a bit safer with another root method coming out that isnt vroot bssed. If modding is a big deal to you...getting the Dev phone is your best bet. Highly unlikely an exploit will be found to unlock the boot loader...

powered by hashcode safestrap hyperdrive 10.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Watching all these people having fun on HyperDrive RLS11 is depressing.

Keep up the good work Hash!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
Be patient. Hash just getting a mj7 phone and I suspect several weeks of his spare time to port ss over as mj7 is lockdown tighter than me7 was.

powered by hashcode safestrap hyperdrive 10.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scals37:
I'm assuming ME7 phones aren't able to get HD11 yet either? I recently had to replace my old broken mdk S4 with a refurb that turned out to be ME7
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Arsenic1234:
I already got the phone for $50 bucks from Best Buy, getting the dev edition at full price isn't in my budget at this time.

I was hoping for a port of the google clean stock rom, but I guess I can freeze or uninstall the samsung bloat to clean it up.

XPosed framework for some tweaks.

And I can hope for SS to open up some pathways once Hash puts it out.

So I guess I'll keep it for now, I was thinking I could get an older release but doubtful to go back to MDK on the shelves.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
That's correct

powered by hashcode safestrap hyperdrive 10.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
Safestrap Update:

Everyone can give @sound-mind a big shout out as I now have a MJ7 S4 in my possession.

I don't recommend taking the MK2 update yet as I don't know if SElinux policies have been changed, etc.

Tonight, I started digging into where and why SS is failing to function on MJ7.

1. The first SElinux denial is kind of a big deal (I'm going to purposely be a bit vague here). Not exactly a deal breaker, but it will probably require me to re-engineer how I'm hijacking the Android startup so that the process has better SElinux permissions. I'm still experimenting with potential fixes.

2. The second denial was causing the Safestrap splashscreen to crash and I fixed that issue tonight.

As I get more info, I'll try and pass it along.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I sent you a pm awhile back. Probably before you got to even start working on MJ7 for the S4. Just reminding you incase any of that info proves useful.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Sorry if I'm being nosy, but would you mind sharing? Just curious.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
For any that updated to MK2 I read a post it will let you Odin back to MJ7. I just stayed on MJ7 myself so can't confirm.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] maniaryan:
Can't wait to see what comes out your digging man we all have faith!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
Hash I just sent you a donation! I encourage others that use and love safestrap to do the same! Every little bit helps starving Devs! Thanks for what you do Brother!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mistertac:
Well I'm excited. No its not a custom recovery, but its an awesome option to have, coming from a Razr I appreciate everything you've been doing [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION]. Also thank you [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] for all the work you've been doing. I'm no Dev/Programmer but I've been following your S4 threads as well. I'll definitely be donating to both you guys after I set all that up (again)

:D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
Just a small word about donations:

While I appreciate them a great deal, I don't like setting up any expectations about "what will be" or for development that may never pan out.

If you're interested in donating, please hold out till I get this next round of Safestrap updates out and make sure that you're completely happy with it.

Remember: Safestrap is something that Samsung and other vendors can easily try to disable. I may or may not be able to work around OS changes in future OTAs, etc. (Tho I always try my best.)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mistertac:
Hey that's much appreciated and we'll said, I know how much work these kind of things take, and personally I'd just be donating to some good people trying to help others out in there spare time. Regardless if SS ends up working out on mj7

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twizzlejr:
Thanks for the update hash keep up the good work I do have another general question can we flash the viper audio mod using safestrap and what would that process be like would there be and issues with it thanks to anybody that could help me out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TechBSwift:
f that, I'm still donating to you soon regardless if safestrap is updated. We don't donate to you based off if your successful, we donate to say thanks for all pas, present, and future things you do for the community!!!! I have an s4 and verizon note 3 and because of you I'm a very happy crack flasher!!!!!!!! Hashcode for president!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Glynix:
Just had to replace my me7 with an mj7. Can't wait for you to work your magic hashcode.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hmong_Xiong:
I doubt you can get MDK or ME7 S4 from BestBuy, I think if you want something that can go clean, go for the LG G2 or HTC One because S4 is just difficult
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] redbean25:
Radio Shack still has some MDK phones available. My co-worker just got one last week.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
Build numbers

Do you actually have to turn on the phones to see build numbers...or is it listed on the side of the box?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] redbean25:
It is listed on the box right below the bar codes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Yeah I looked at my phone box not long ago and it had MDK

I got my phone back in September. I updated it as soon as i got it. I turned it on and it immediately started downloading an update. Then it kept bugging me to update every 2 seconds so i did. I'm so mad that I did. :mad: :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Arsenic1234:
Assuming we have great luck and a safestrap is found to work somehow on MJ7.

Is there a big advantage to me searching for a MDK build vs a rooted and safestrapped MJ7?

I am still within my 2 weeks, just weighing my options on a return of the device.

Thanks-
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swc2001:
If you have root and safestrap you can do almost anything with your phone! The only thing you can't do is switch out kernals.... pfft no big deal. I would be surprised if Hash isn't able to get SS working in the next month or so.... just be patient. They have already found 3 ways of achieving root. Vroot, Kingo, and a safer way in which I don't know the name yet. So its all good!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] crazysoccerman:
I'm going to harass nearby radio shacks because of this post :D

Fingers crossed.

------------------------------------------

Tangent:

I returned my s4 and was going to get a g2, but it turns out it may have a fatal touchscreen screen defect: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2521663&highlight=kernel

It has terrible GPS reception:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2485088

It has issues dropping connection for extended periods of time (at least international version has the issue): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2491371

I urge everyone to not recommend or buy the G2 until at least the touchscreen issue is resolved as it is a serious, widespread, and unresolved problem.

Not even exchanging the phone fixes problem; some users have gone through many phones and all had the problem.

Needless to say, I'm back to looking at the s4. Sorry about the tangent.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
I'll just leave this right here:

ONLY FOR USERS ON 4.3 BUILDS WITH SELINUX=ENFORCING:

NEW "VERY BETA" Safestrap v3.65 for S4 VZW w/ SELinux

Download from Goo.im

PLEASE PLEASE if you test this. Know how to ODIN restore your device.

NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. This is brand spanking new software that could potentially brick your very expensive device.

VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVE THE OLD VERSION OF SAFESTRAP INSTALLED:

1. PRIOR to installing this new version of Safestrap MAKE SURE to use "Uninstall Recovery" button INSIDE THE APP and then uninstall the APK itself. For this version, I had to change the hijack and how it works. By fully removing the old version you are cleaning up the old hijack.

2. THEN download and install the new "SELinux" APK.

CURRENT STATUS FOR TESTING:

Installed on MJ7

Shows Safestrap splashscreen during boot

"Reboot to Recovery" from inside the APK works

Ran a backup of stock MJ7

Created a rom-slot using default sizes

Restored backup of MJ7 to rom-slot

Test booted from rom-slot : FAIL. Looks like it's going to boot, but ends up in stock. No loop devices mounted, etc. Probably SElinux debugging.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mistertac:
I'll try this out later when I'm not at work in case I need an Odin.

Good work, even if it's not 100% now that's awesome!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Quentin.Sheley:
Testing
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] I love the work you're doing man, but I just need some clarity.

Will the next update allow us to flash 4.3 ROMs, or will we need to be on stock 4.3 to be able to do so..?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Nismo6921:
Call me crazy or call me a rebel but I am currently running MK2 rooted and I am testing this. It was successfully able to install and then boot into recovery. I then rebooted back into system. I have yet to attempt a backup or create a rom slot, I'll let you know when I've done so. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
you'll to be on 4.3 base like MJ7 or MK2 is my understanding. Those of us currently running ss will have to upgrade and re-root
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
What if we have a completely different ROM in the stock slot..?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Quentin.Sheley:
Tested. Successful install with MJ7. Loaded into recovery fine but the initial rom selected was slot 1.

I then selected Stock and it loaded regular. Created a second slot also. All seems well. Can't wait for an actual ROM now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Nismo6921:
Okay quick update, I can confirm that yes backup works and yes rom slot creation works, however booting into that slot fails. Just goes back to the default system.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Stolly08:
So why don't u throw a ROM in there and try it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
+1,

Or I'm most curious if flashing Hyperdrive RLS11 --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301724 , to stock side is possible?

Anyone try that's on 4.3 and this test release of SS?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
I don't think it would work as the ROM doesn't contain the kernel....so a 4.3 base ROM probably wouldn't work if your base is still ME7 or MI7...but go ahead and feel free to try and report back to us
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Do you think flashing RLS11 on stock side on an originally ME7 device will work?

Since it is overall replacing the kernel it wouldnt have to load the original..