yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heatshiver:
Well, you would be wrong on more than one account. I bought the G2 the first day it came out, can you say the same?

I am not sure what you are talking about in terms of the S4 battery because this is entirely untrue. This time I'll take the limb and say that you never owned an S4. I'm also going to go on a limb and say you don't know the difference between ion and polymer batteries.

Just because you found something tiring and lame doesn't make it untrue. Just because one thing was improved doesn't mean you should give up on things that do matter. That's a horrible philosophy. Surely not an American philosophy. Beyond that, there are solutions to these items if you actually search hard enough. But most people won't, I'm assuming you neither, because everyone just looks at the surface and doesn't want to dig.

I added my signature because it explains ways to save battery to people in great detail. If people want to check, they can. If they don't, good luck to them.

The funny thing is I wasn't complaining about this. Why would I buy this and not know this. I just wanted to bring up how I counter this issue.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rockliveson123:
My battery life was great the first few days. Now its way worse.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lattiboy:
Something is

for sure

up with your Play Services. Screen should almost always be the largest consumer of battery by at least a factor of 2. If not, you've got a process run amok!

In your case I would guess GPS or other location services. Possibly contact sync. You can fix both easily. For contact sync, just remove/re-add your gmail account. For GPS, disable GPS and see if it clears up battery issues. A new SIM card can also cure many ills.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike2518:
I got the g2 week ago, had every thing restored from Google account, and had same high Google services usage. I wiped everything and didn't restore Google. Working great now.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lattiboy:
Here's mine from today. Two hours of Bluetooth streaming music, over an hour of screen time, mostly on WiFi.

Pretty thrilled with that.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rockliveson123:
I rebooted my phone and now all seems well again. Dumb Google got stuck syncing
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osiris010:
I've had my G2 for a day or two short of a week now, bad I've gotta say this phone has blown me away at this point. in my opinion, it beats the S4 in every aspect- I don't even care that lacks expandable memory.

The first few days I was averaging 12 to 15 hours on my battery which really made me happy. I consider myself a power user, very few phone calls but I text and use data A LOT. I primarily use internet, not necessarily watching videos, but Facebook and just reading articles and such. Today I noticed my battery was down to 75% with just under an hour or two used.

now today I only got about 10 hours on my battery with about 10% left. Now I do use LTE most of the time because I still have unlimited data. But when I'm at work I usually connect their WiFi, screen brightness is at 60% either auto on. I'm just trying to find out what if anything is killing my battery.

seeing how some people here are averaging upwards of 20 hours on a full charge (some even more) makes me think I'm not getting the full benefits of this 3000 mAh battery.

could it be I need to condition my battery longer? I've only had the phone for a week and I do let it die before I recharge it, but it does sit plugged in at 100% for a few hours overnight until I wake up, not sure if that makes any difference. the best battery life I've seen so far was like the 3rd and 4th days when I averaged 12-15 hours with 4 hours of screen time.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] currentsupply:
I am having the same issue with the Google Services taking up the largest chunk (37%) of my battery usage. Something is wrong here.

I am averaging about 2:45-3:15 screen time, but I feel that it could be better. Please let me know what you guys are feeling..

Thanks..
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lattiboy:
Pretty convinced this is a bug in the "google backup/restore" function. I disabled backup and my battery life improved. Not universal, not 100%, but it seems a likely culprit. That or an app calling GPS a lot. I had something keeping my location services on for two hours yesterday. Just disabled GPS until I needed it and I'm into hour 20 of this charge with 25% left.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FredWorrell:
NLPwakelock seems to be the bad actor here. I reboot my phone after charging and the battery life is awesome. If I don't, I'll only get 12hrs out it.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] currentsupply:
I just pulled off from charger, and I'll be doing a day with Google Now and Location services both gps and wifi off. Kinda sucks to have to have a bug in core services though. I use maps a lot since I work in the field.

Ah screw it, I'm turning GPS back on.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I dont notice bad battery life? Change of title maybe lol
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Billy Madison:
Probably should turn Network Location app off, and leave gps on. I think Google Now will chuck battery very fast, it wakes phone very often to do it's job, you can't heal it
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WheresTrent:
I pulled my phone off the charger around 8:30 AM yesterday, and plugged it back in maybe half an hour before bed, 11:15 PM. It was at 5% then. I spent about an hour and a half on the phone, most of that being on hold with the speakerphone on, some emailing, Google Navigation to test the GPS feature (and figure out what's going on with LG's TTS), downloading and briefly playing a few tables in Pinball Arcade, Facebook/Twitter, and texting. Screen brightness anywhere between 30-80% throughout the day. I kept Wifi off most of the day, because unlike Sprint, I get Tmo 4G at my house (and most everywhere else) and wanted to check the speeds.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NevetsDrassel:
I was wondering that myself but I found this from looking over the manual.

If you look at the specs on the phone in the the manual, you will see that the battery - although listed at 3.8V 3000mAh, can be charged to 4.35V 3000mAh. Now this is no biggie in itself but the battery monitor program list any charge above 3.8V to be at 100% battery level. So the battery indicator will always read 100% until the battery discharges below 3.8V and for some people, that is over 3 hours of use depending on the load that they put on their phone.

The battery bar will be at 100% when the charge on the battery is 98% or more. It does not specify if that is >97.0001% or >97.5% or >97.9% though.

Is it a gimmick? Probably but I think that they got a better battery then they were expecting and that is a plus for everyone of us. More battery and who can be against that.

Just MHO though.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
its a bug in android, perhaps easily fixed by adapting spec tables. Guess its a bad one from LG as well. Good find!

noticed indeed considerable increase in battery life when charging past the 100 mark.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thewihlygeek:
I would also suggest using Lux auto brightness to reduce some of the screen killing the battery. Helps me out a lot, I feel. I have the Verizon model, though with all of the Verizon bloatware frozen via TB.

Here's my typical day of usage:

wi-fi on, gps on, nfc on, google now on, Lux controlling my auto brightness (have it set to never put the screen higher than 85% brightness), Light Flow running all the time for multiple notifications, facebook & facebook messenger updating all the time, tumblr updating all the time, flipboard updating all the time (including the widget, and it updating facebook, twitter, tumblr, g+, and youtube feeds), spotify streaming music on LTE (2-5 hrs/day), 20-50 emails through gmail, 100+ texts/day, and gaming (everything from candy crush to GBA emulators).

All of that with 3 - 5.5 hours of screen time, and I still get 15 - 18 hrs of battery life. This phone's battery kicks ass. Easily keeps up with the Razr Maxx I had before this. I also leave it plugged in overnight, so I probably get the over-charge that NevetsDrassel was talking about.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heleos:
I haven't read this whole thread, but I had some bad wakelock/battery drain that I think I may have solved tonight (I'm rooted).

Used titanium backup to uninstall google search and google play services, then re-installed from google play. No more wakelock!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmbtswmr:
Cool story man.

Yes, I bought the G2 on launch day. Yes, I owned an S4. I ended up returning it during my grace period for the sole reason that the battery was unable to survive an entire day at my usage level (I am a self proclaimed heavy user). Great phone, just couldn't last a full day and I refuse to shut off or restrict usage to features that I enjoy for a device that costs over $600.

I don't understand how my knowledge of (or lack thereof according to you) battery types and their relative chemical makeup have ANYTHING to do with my point that my LG G2 sitting in my hand right this second would easily outlast the S4 I owned (or rented, depending on semantics) even after I theoretically doubled its battery life to account for an extra removable battery. The battery graphs are all over this forum and the xda, the facts don't lie.

Next, easy with the false patriotism. Just because you misunderstood my comment, don't go all Tea Party on me and call my retort against your generic complaint an un-American philosophy. You're better than that. It's not giving up either. Rather, I believe it to be the opposite. I paid Verizon 100% of the money for the phone and expect to get a phone that meets 100% of my realistic demands (I let them slide on not releasing hardware composed of adamantium). Therefore, my phone needs to have a battery that can survive a solid day of using all the fancy features they shovel down our throats to market these phones with no extra purchases on my part, outside of the original cost of the phone. I use my the only voice a consumer has, to demand the best from the market. My buying power. So, who's really giving up?

Lastly, (I'll make this short since I it was covered in the aforementioned paragraph) I am familiar with many of the tips/tricks/solutions on how to conserve battery and 'greenify' your phone. However, I am happy to say, that with this phone I don't have too. Nor would I be complaining about not having a removable battery option on a phone that can outlast two days of steady usage.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heatshiver:
[MENTION=2787430]cmbtswmr[/MENTION] - If you don't want to be be offended, instead of assuming, show a little respect considering you're assumptions are way off. A "retort" would be used in an angry manner or as an insult, so again, if you don't want to be offended, don't offend.

The difference of the two battery types would be self-explanatory, if you had that knowledge.

Who's really giving up? To reiterate, you are. You don't want a removable battery or an SD card? Those are just extras, it doesn't mean you have to pay for things to replace them, but if I pay for a phone, these were/are standard features I expect. Korean variants have them, so why shouldn't we? Are you saying Korea deserves them more than us? Now that there is an assumption, a bad one, the ones you should avoid. I know that

many

of our "voices" want these features, so it seems like you're saying that those "voices" are wrong, or that they don't matter (which would go against your "voice" logic if everyone has one...). My "voice" wants 4K recording, but without a SD card slot, that seems unrealistic. So, if "voices" matter as much as you make it out to be, don't make negative comments about what other "voices" want.

Also, in what part did I say that not having a removable battery was a complaint of mine? I said it was a downside, not a complaint. Read before you reply.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmbtswmr:
I'm actually not offended, not in the least. You'd have to hold some value to me for your attempts at insults to land. By the way, a retort is a "response to a remark in a wittily incisive manner." -Google. Just thought you should know.

And yes you're totally right, I think the Koreans deserve a removable battery and SD slot way more than we do. With everything going over there right now, I say give them two SD slots while you're at it!

I'm glad you were able to gather that from everything I said. ;)

Apparently I struck a nerve with you, as it's obvious this is going nowhere. I'm 100% happy with my phone, which is why I purchased it(hence MY voice) . I'm sorry you're not fully satisfied, it looks like you're going to spend the rest of the year being disappointed by the mobile world because I don't see anything spec wise coming out that will satisfy what you need.

Regardless, why don't we move this to PM, so you can teach me all about your extensive battery knowledge and the rest of this community can get back to discussing useful things.

Have a great day buddy.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heatshiver:
[MENTION=2787430]cmbtswmr[/MENTION]Here are the definitions given to me by Google:

VERB: 1. say something in answer to a remark or accusation, typically in a sharp, angry, or wittily incisive manner.

2. repay (an insult or injury).

NOUN: 1. a sharp, angry, or wittily incisive reply to a remark.

If you want to school me on definitions, why not give the full definition instead of a half-truth?

If you're not offended, then why would having a non-American philosophy need such a lecture? It is not a bad thing to have a non-American philosophy by-the-way, which lends itself to reason that you are offended. And how does Korean G2 features have anything to do with what is happening in Korea?

Again, you continue to miss any points completely and keep assuming things. I'm not satisfied with my phone and I want more from my phone are two different things. If you are giving up and satisfied on wanting more, then that is all you should have said instead of trying to state my original comments were lame for you. If you want to continue this conversation elsewhere, don't pretend that you should PM after you've posted in the forum...
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noobineer:
When I first got my phone, two days on first charge. Then I started adding all the apps and the launcher I wanted, and the battery life barely made it a day. I figured that was just all the configuration and downloading. A reboot fixed that. Now I get some days where it will last forever, 75% left when I go to bed. Other days, 5% or shut off when I go to bed. Basically on similar usage. Just added some of the tracking apps for battery and wake lock. I am going to look for a pattern as to why it is so irregular. I have everything turned on, am rooted, and have disabled Carrier IQ
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
Ok, so I'm not sure if I'm getting good battery life. Especially after seeing what other people are getting. When I received the phone, there was about 55% left on the battery. I began the setup and downloading. I took it to 0% and charged it while off until the next day(today). Please keep a couple of things in mind. I came from a phone where I had to sacrifice a lot to make it through the day. Because of the massive battery, I wanted to see how long it could go with just about everything on. Below is a couple of screenshots as well as a list of what I've been doing. Please let me know if this is on track or if there is something I should be looking into. I am not rooted yet, but I will be cleaning it up tomorrow. Thanks.

- Had my brightness at 100% almost the whole day. (I didn't realize until late that auto brightness doesn't work if display is set to 100% baseline. Needs to be 99% or lower.)

- Location services and GPS were on all day.

- 1 1/2 hours in a building with poor reception.

- 1 hour phone

- Was using LTE for half of the day (didn't realize I forgot to turn wifi back on when I got home)

- Almost all of my screen time was browsing, uploading, and downloading.

- Push email (4 accounts)

If I remember anything else, I'll add it later. Here are the screen shots. Please let me know if it's decent. I'm not getting near the 30+ hours others are claiming. Thanks.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android404:
god5 1/2 hours of screen on time with 1 1/2 hours left is great. You don't get both 7 hours screen plus 30 hours of standby. You get either or, or a combination.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
Yeah, I figured it would be one or the other, but people were posting up 4 hours of screen time and 20 hours of use, 30 hours left, so I thought something might be wrong or I just need a few more days to calibrate. Just wanted to see what others thought before jumping to any conclusions.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcm7:
That quite a good battery life for me. Previously, owned H1, it won't last that long with that kind of usage. H1 with heavy usage and 0% screen brightness, drain about 20%/hour.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
How about now?

LOL. This thing has to be off. What is a reliable battery measurement tool that doesn't require root?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jug6ernaut:
Just wanted to post this...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ynufcfc7kneb8y8/2013-10-19 12.01.46.png
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jug6ernaut:
BetterBatteryStats
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
android tuner or its component battery monitor widget

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiguy99:
Installed one of the sense themes the other day from the market but it had some spyware crap which was causing wake locks and serious battery drain.

Uninstalled it but the drain didn't stop. Ended up doing a factory reset and all is well now. You may have to do what i did to fix the problem
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
Thanks guys. I'll check those out.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeynox:
[/COLOR]i too am having a battery issue on my ATT G2. ive gone there the forums and turn everything i can off. ive used wakelock detector and it not showing anything abnormal. If i do anything on the phone the batter dies fairly quickly. just browsing the forums for 10-13 min brought me down 9% with screen brightness at 47%. . everytime i reboot the phone i disable IQ services, lg life is off, all google crap is off,all at&t stuff is off. bluetooth,gps,location,sync, google settings, are off. i see some people posting images of their device battery screens stating insane amounts of use. is that with using the phone as a phone or as its intended use of email, text, phone,app etc? any phone can last days without use. Where it says gps use is the total since owning the phone or in the last 17 hrs? i have every gps/location related setting off
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rfarrah:
You have something funky going on there. I'm getting insane battery life using my phone to the max (except gaming). Rooted, but everything is completely stock. After 12 hours day before yesterday, still had 81% battery left.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
My phone lost 30% in 8h during the night - no activity whatsoever from my side.

It seems that the phone was awake for more than two hours due to nlpwakelock - I am still investigating whats the root cause - I guess Google Now. As I am using it quite regular to disable all location functions is not a valid option...
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] macace21:
battery life

Are you connected to LTE? Because I have an international model on hspa+ and my battery life is very comparable to my note 2. I honestly have been very impressed with the battery life.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
Nope my carrier doesn't support LTE atm...
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noobineer:
One of those days when the battery optimization is performing well. By the default battery monitor, I had 46 hours left at lunch time. Everything is on and enabled.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
My phone has finally leveled out. I'm averaging 18-22 hours with 5-7 screen on time. I was a little disappointed at first because I was able to get about 16 hours out of my RAZR, but then I realized I can leave everything on now. No more crippled phone. I'm happy with it now.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiguy99:
30% loss in 8h with another phone wouldn't be too much of a problem but on the G2 its serious.Your G2 with 8 hours in deep sleep shouldn't lose more than 1-2%. 4-5% tops if you configure your email to download alot attachments and you're getting mail all night long

This
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
That's whats concerns me as well.

Another day with 18h, 2 1/2h screentime. Medium use, some mails, some usual apps, some Ingress, some music, some videos.

Constant drop of about 5% per hour during the night.

What I have done so far:

- uninstalled most of the google apps as system apps and reinstalled them as normal apps

- disabled touch sounds

- freezed most of the LG apps

- disabled sync during the night, enabled wifi, mobile data, location on

Honestly I am running out of ideas:

1. factory reset and once more from the beginning

2. disable location settings (unable to use Google Now and Ingress)

Any ideas what might went wrong?

See pics attached... any hint is higly appreciated.

Greetings,

ww
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiguy99:
Was this always like this? Do you ciq and mlt off?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crashN2u:
Really wish I could help you, all I can say is, everything you've disabled, I still have running on my phone, and I still get between 3-5 more hours of screen time. What I ended up disabling that got me an extra couple of hours, was the Verizon stuff, but with the battery life I'm getting, there really is no need to.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
I have the phone since Saturday (3 days now) - first, I migrated the most important stuff from my N4, then I started to test around and discovered the battery drain issue.

Can you be a little bit more specific regarding "ciq and mlt off"?

Meanwhile I deactivated Google Now to see if this is the main cause for it (location still enabled for google maps and ingress).

Best regards

ww
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiguy99:
Just discussed these items earlier this week with another person! To take off MLT, search for the thread using "MLT" you'll find he one with the funky code you have to type to access the hidden menu where you deactivate it. Each version has a different code to access the menu and they list all of the different codes there

As for Carrier IQ or CIQ, search for Carrier IQ to access the method of deactivating this service. Each one is different. I have the Tmobile version where it's easier to turn off

Go to Settings, General, backup & reset, collect diagnostics to access it
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android404:
For a change, I didn't charge my phone last night. The phone run for 31 hours with 6 hours screen on time and half an hour left. "Regular" use: lots of surfing on 3g and wifi, Spotify in the car and on the bus, GPS while searching for a retailer, some basic gaming, constant email sync.

I couldn't be more happy. The day before I gota two hours screen off plus 3 hours screen on and had left 67%%. That would be 9 hours screen on plus 6 hours off for 100%. That's just ridiculously long.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imitenotbecrazy:
Not mad at this battery at all
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] webwude:
I already deactivated MLT by freezing the apk - Carrier IQ doesn't seem to be present in the international version (D802).

I deactivated Google Now + Location report + Location history - the drain through the night dropped from 5% to 1% per hour. For the time being I will keep these settings off...
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tiguy99:
Nice! The battery life seems to have gotten better for you. Seems as if the 2610 mAH battery is capable of decent times similar to the 3000 mAH version

Please let us know how it performs during the day as well!