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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] SGBE:
<<putting on my FCC type acceptance testing hat>>

When it comes to NFC and QI charging, the specs are:

NFC operates at 13.56MHz with a operational range of up to 100mm (10cm).

Wireless (Qi) charging operates at 100-200KHz (+5vDC @ up to 1000mAh) with a range of approximately 5mm.

In regards to these technologies being used in a mobile device, we can also consider the operating "volume" range or the minimal region each signal type can occupy and still function reliably. In this environment, both NFC and QI are tested independently and then a jointly to create an operational volume in a conflicting RFI field. See below:

Since NFC will be the more widely used signal type, it is considered more "valuable" than wireless inductance charging and therefore dictates the minimal operational volume standard specified in most if not all cellular devices. In this case, the NFC operational range mimics a lot of the Qi characteristics and that is not a coincidence (rather it is to play it safe).

Since the primary frequency ranges are so far apart and it is unlikely that the NFC functionality would be used at the same time the mobile device is on a Qi pad being charged, there should not be a significance degradation in performance if the Qi inductor is passive (not in use) and sitting within 1mm of the 13.56MHz near field antenna within the Note 3 battery cell housing. Now, if the Qi inductor is active (in use), then enough RFI could be created to effectively reduce or hinder the NFC operation up to 90%; making it useless even at 5mm. This is also why the Samsung notice pops up with the wireless charging notification stating the S-pen may not function properly within range of the Qi transmitting inductor.

With all this said, yes, I have found the NFC still functions fine up to 60mm with the Qi receiving pad installed and NOT functional (passive mode). If the N3 is charging, there is no NFC functionality, which is not a surprise. Hope this helps.

Scott-

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If the pad is not attached (stickered) to the battery, no, it will not interfere. This is also why it is best to attach it to the rear casing plate... or fork out the big $$ for the official solution from Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] wilflare:
man.. the Samsung Wireless Charging kits aren't priced nicely at all...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Is the N3 wireless charger the same one as the one for the S4?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2476093

They have an active thread, where few people report its working for them... its wip though. For Verizon users there's no such thing yet. Not even ISIS
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] @rbiter:
You mean the thread I've been subscribed to since it started and it's been confirmed there is no secure element in note3 so no tap n pay google wallet. It's still a work in progress and not working unless there's a working 4.4 rom and wallet portion has been figured out.

sent from my sm-9005.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Great, i didnt know that, for that matter a few people on Verizon section think that T-Mobile folks were able to crack the code to make it work.

Yea i hear that too.. that on 4.4 Google Wallet could be possible, but not sure if its going to be an out of the box solution or some kind of circus is required to modify the packages.

ISIS was another option but thats not working on note 3 either.

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While we are waiting for few more responses on the new incoming chargers and receivers and battery packs.. sharing a few screenshots of the custom ROM interface.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
Just got a new receiver in it is the one that is 0.6mm but it bulges pretty bad under the camera so much that dirt can get in from the gap. It is thinner everywhere else but not at the top where the chip is. I don't have a wireless charger to test it but just from the bulge I am going back to the white one.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
hopefully that's just an isolated incident, hopefully mine get here this week
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Does that bulge even after removing the black cover from both the sides?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Sprint. :)

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Your white one looks the same as mine. Not too bulgy.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
Yeah even without the paper thin sticker the problem is the big chip they used. Pic
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Exactly, but for now it's servicable for me. When we get it figured as to which is the absolute thinest with NFC then I'll grab one of those. Just nice to have wireless charging in the car and at my desk. May add locations later, too. It's Qi for me from now on. Hopefully by the time I buy my next Note qi will be OEM. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Limited to 8 thanks, but thank you in print for the pictures. I was expecting this one to be a breakthrough.

I guess i will sell this one as well on ebay. For now sticking with my original no-bulge.. near to perfect NFC qi receiver.

No more QI nightmare's for now. I ordered my last wireless madness device the Metrans W10000 in white color yesterday morning. Thats all for me.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
which no-bulge one is that?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Werent you following this thread since a long time now. I had posted videos, links and pictures as well.. weeks back.

Few people already brought them.. and found it to be quite good.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] poczynek:
Anyone used both Tylt Vu and the Google Nexus orb on their Note 3? Tylv Vu looks great but it's a ridiculous $100 to send to Australia - fark that! Whereas the orb i can get on Ebay for $35.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kms108:
many of the orb sold on ebay are direct copies.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ajdrausal:
So I found this on Samsungs website..

Black:

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CN900IBUSTA

White:

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EP-CN900IWUSTA

And with googles new wireless charger it should work nicely together.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47300745&postcount=522

Did you get the reorder mentioned in this post, and was it the thinner one? Also, is it the post you are referring to?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] poczynek:
As in, they don't work?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] gordonzhao:
When I had my s3 (tmobile) I was able to get Google Wallet working with the workaround.

Do we have any users confirming that the safestrap works with the TMobile note 3? The OPs warning was it only works for vzw and att due to the locked bootloader which is why I'm hesitant to try it on mine.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
As in, what you're buying is no different than some of the other cheap $15 wireless chargers. The quality is not there.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Curb71:
I don't feel like reading 81 pages. If the OP cant be updated could someone sum up the options for wireless charging?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] poczynek:
Yes possibly. But it's the only other wireless charger that charges whilst tilted. I just cannot justify 100 clams for the tylt vu.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Yes, that's understandable, but the point KMS was making is that you shouldn't compare a real Nexus Orb to a counterfeit one.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kms108:
you can do a search on google or ebay, brands like LG, sanwa, maxell and nokia, along with many available from china also has chargers that you place your phone vertical, and some allow multi positioning.

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I thought about this, but there are too many available, including branded ones sold internationally, and china branded ones, also non branded and rebadged, you are talking about over 150 of them, and new ones are released as we speak.

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In short, it's just a warning so that you know these are available, rather than deal with the return problem later on, that waste time and possibly money.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Curb71:
Does something like this one work just plug & play with the Note 3?

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/ac...black-wireless-charging-plate-sku6290260.html
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Yes, it's the infamous DT-900 that has been mentioned numerous times in this thread.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] stanglifemike:
It's plug and play WITH a Qi Receiver. The Note 3 doesn't support wireless charging straight out of the box. The Nokia DT900 WITH a Qi Receiver will allow you to charge wireless. I have the Nokia DT900 and a $10 Qi Receiver from eBay, which work perfectly together.

SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 3 via XDA Premium

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[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] sagaofsage:
Found on slickdeals.net. T-Mobile has the Tylt on sale for $48.99 if you use the promo code ACCOFFER18
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Euforeik:
Do you think the wireless charging S view is worth the money?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] babyshanks:
haha saw that as well, just about to post it.:p

people who have it, think its worth it? Any benefits to this over a generic ebay orb?

Just got it, :fingers-crossed: hoping I don't have the reoccuring pop-up issue.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ClyssaN:
That's bad ... i'm waiting for the same receiver. When they say 0.6mm, it should be maximum thickness... including the chip...

The area where the chip is, has more then 0.6mm?

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They should make a receiver with the chips on the microSD slot.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
If only I could teleport to Shenzhen
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] YungMage:
Yes. I have 2 qi charger inserts. I even of them is the DiCooler blue insert. It is a little thick but after a couple of days in my back it thinned out a little. My Neo Hybrid Spigen case still fit around but there was a bulge. No noticeable by look but could feel it if you were looking for it. Also in addition it rocked when using it on a flat surface. However NFC works great no need to remove front or back label. The contacts didn't sit tight with N3 so I taped it down and it worked well with Nokia DT 900.

Second insert I got is from http://vivealive.net/WiQiQi-Samsung-Note-3-Wireless-Receiver-WQN3R.htm and this is thinnest insert I have. Can't feel a bulge due to a flattening out of whole insert overall. When used on table the wobble is very minimal to the point you have to push on very corners of phone to reveal it. Along with its thinnest it is able to pick up a charge from DT 900 From Wide Range of positions as long as at least half of it was on charger. I haven't had chance to test NFC yet. Overall I will recommend this overall for form, fit, and functionality.

Edit: I should also mention that I'm rooted and running Jovy DarthVader ROM. Charging is super fast plugged in and I think he also tweaked wireless charging to be faster can't really compare since I rooted before my qi stuff got here. Also with the insert it does get a little warm. Not as warm as playing Asphalt 8 and charging via USB but a little warm like charging via USB and watching a movie maybe. Very negligible.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] polo2883:
Has anyone tried the Nokia DT910 with the note 3? I kinda want something that is at an angle for work.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ReggieSmith:
Officiam Samsung Wireless Charging Cover

Mine is out for delivery today coming from ShopAndroid.com... Had an insert but it just wasn't working out for me. (leads were probably lifting off and it bulged enough to keep the phone from laying flat when using a slim case.)

http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-wireless-charging-battery-cover/88A89A16422A.htm

New cover is thicker than original obviously but at least the same thickness along the entire cover (no bulge) Tried to post a pic but got a permissions error trying to attach a pic.. so this link will have to do.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5zhwdflfbmu3x4z/20131120_172250.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fc41osjo51a64oo/20131120_171919.jpg
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
If the charger isn't perfect I have confidence they will take care of it - TYLT - and you could always return to TM.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
The chip is like 2mm thick lol
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Pepppito:
Then ask for refund, if 0.6mm was stated...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Compusmurf:
I've tried the thicker blue one. Bulges as many have stated. Also got really warm. Worked reliably.

I've tried the super thin one with NFC. This one causes the charge to cycle on, off, on, off. Also, when working, gets rather warm.

I've tried the Stock Samsung charging back. It works reliably. However, no cases fit it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] @rbiter:
Bumpers fit.

sent from my sm-9005.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ClyssaN:
When mine arrives, i will check if the chips is 1mm or 2mm, if so, i will do just that...

They say it's superthing with 0.6mm, not 1mm-2mm ...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Pepppito:
Exactly..
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Vienna 1683:
Hi,

I have a question about the original Samsung Wireless Charging Pad. Which dimension does it have?

For example here it is written that:

22 x 12 x 2 cm

but here it is written that:

16,18 cm x 9,18 cm x 1,16 cm

What is true?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
I would go with Samsung. Their product.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
Ultra-thin 0.5mm Qi Wireless Charging Receiver Card Coil for Samsung Galaxy Note III 3 N9005 N9500 with Full NFC Support

Picked up another Qi Receiver that arrived today. This was purchased from Amazon from the link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GFGL0XE

It was $21.99 and had free shipping (I used Prime but paid $1.99 for next day)

It is advertised as: 0.5mm and it is easily the thinnest of the Receivers I've physically seen so far, but might be a tad bit thicker at the chip. But it is still very slender. It has 2 pins on the side for the Qi connections, and 2 pins on top for NFC support. The chip itself is near the top of the card and sits just under the camera. The back cover of the phone however fit as flat as the TechMatte that I did a review on.

Some pics:

The box and the card taken out (there are no instructions but it is fairly easy for even a very novice user to figure it out)

Other side of the box:

Cover side:

Battery and connector side:

Unlike the Techmatte, there are some differences:

Slimmer

No cover side connectors that you could use for say the s-view flip cover

Has NFC built in and and works well

Will add pics of it inside the phone when I get my other camera out.

Oh and it appears to charge just fine. I was seeing 640mAh when I checked it with two different apps to check.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Which apps? Thanks! I may try that one. Was waiting to hear. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
I'm using "Galaxy Charging Current" and "Battery Monitor Widget".
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Thanks, again. I think I'm fine with the charging but wanted to confirm. Can't help but drool over the receiver. :cyclops: There is no hope for me... Gadgets, gadget, gadgets...
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
That looks like the same card I got but by fonesalesman
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
is there a bulge like mofo84's receiver?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
Can you pull off the sticker and takes a side pic of where the chip is at the top?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
by the way, where'd you buy yours from?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
Took some pics of it in the Note 3 as well as pics of the cover on not that it really shows anything...

The card conforms really well to the left side of the device. It is not nearly as wide as the TechMatte one was and doesn't reach the other side of the battery like it does. It again, doesn't have the contacts showing through to the back and is only using 2 of the 3 connectors on the left side. The view cover would be using the lower 3rd pin and the center which would need some hacking to make work.

Full on of the Receiver in the phone:

Side close at the top:

Note that it looks like it is lifted in the image, but in reality, it can't really go more flat because the pins are holding it up. The thickest part is just under the camera, but that doesn't affect the cover going on.

Pics with the cover on:

I didn't take it with the flash on as that just made it look like it had a lot more lint on it: The lighting does show the curve of the cover pretty good though.

Little steeper angle:

Most of these you can see the Spigen Bounce case under the phone.

All of these images were taking with my previous phone, an HTC Rezound which has a really good camera in it for taking macro shots. You can kind of do similar images with the Note 3 but you have to work at it harder as there is no real Macro mode.

Again this one was bought from: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GFGL0XE
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
So what's your conclusion? good? best? bad? worst?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
A question for those more in the know than me - given that my Vu is cycling on and off repeatedly - is it safe (no battery damage) to use until the replacement arrives? Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
Of the three that I have physically played with... I like them in order of:

o This one is the best for me, Most thin, includes NFC and no bulge for me. Paid for Prime next day so I could play with the NFC tags I got in the day before. Was the most expensive. Won't work with s-view flip cover.

o TechMatte is next, has 3 pins with pass through (Might work with s-view flip cover and is very flat. But it does interfere with NFC. If you don't need or want that. I would have stuck with this one. Arrived in 2 days first class. This one didn't cost me anything, but it is around $13 with free shipping from the States.

o Blue Chinese. This one had 2 pins and while fairly flat did cause a slight bulge. Not enough to be concerned with. Took the longest to get though. Never really tested NFC with it, but it had a smaller footprint. least expensive, free shipping but came from China... was about 7-10 days.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
This is the problem I am talking about with the chip under the camera. You can see the gap at the bottom and dust can get in. IN THE LAST 2 PICS YOU CAN SEE THE DEFERENCE WITH THE RECEIVER AND WITHOUT IT.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Suggest not to use it. Any kind of flickering can cause a short circuit or fuse.. or even spiral up power or due to low power can cause damage.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
I can see from your last 2 pics krelvinaz that yours is doing the same thing because you can't see the silver ring around the camera.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Glad I asked. Thanks for the input. I suspected as much.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
It's hard to tell from those photos but you're probably right
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Your chip looks big. Even my chip isn't huge. I took off the remaining white plastic to really see and it's very flat
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
Which receiver do u have?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271305675584?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
That's the one I am using now I went back to it from the black one which is supposed to be thinner
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Compusmurf:
Thats the thin one I got. Not impressed. Causes charge cycling and bulge under camera. Then it stopped working reliability.

Ymmv. Gl with it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
That's not the one that has the chip problem
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Not sure if you guys are aware but Google is giving out Google wallet cards for free today. It's not the same NFC based card but an actual debit card. Hey it as long as it is free

https://www.google.com/wallet/shop-in-stores/index.html#instore-wallet-card

Posting this here cos we talked abt Google wallet app on the thread earlier and multiple people showed interest.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
Thanks Manswers just ordered mine
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
I got it too, MANswers. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] BlueChris:
Guys I had read the thread and I understood that DT900 is one of the best pads with 3 coils etc. I received it but it cannot charge my N3 with my portfolio leather case, all the Chinese cheapo pads that I have can charge fine.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] gordonzhao:
Speaking of nfc, I haven't tried Google Wallet since my s3 and I installed it just now after linking to MANswers, thanks by the way. And I was able install and start up wallet, unlike in the past it would be an error message.

Anyone else using a T-Mobile, att or vzw note 3 that can confirm as well?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
Just noticed this on Google..

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_wireless_charger

9W 1.8A AC Adaptor (For use in the United States and Canada only)

Micro USB Cable

Quick start guide

Supposedly it supports the Qi standard though the page didn't provide that info.

Too bad I can't use my extra Google Play credits on it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Same thing I was thinking. They would have sold out of those quick. Nice looking! Thanks.

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And Google just makes it so seamless to remember you want one. LOL
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] krelvinaz:
Another article on it.

http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/nexus-wireless-charger-google-132427

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The google charger is $58 with shipping and sales tax (AZ).
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Good find. But for that cost I would get another TYLT over the Google charger any day.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Given the issues with mine and having to exchange it, it doesn't look quite as good to me until I get the replacement. At least it's on its way, sadly via USPS. :crying: At least I have my other plate.

BTW you never mentioned what happens with your Vu once you're at 100%. Does yours sip quietly or flip back and forth between charging/non-charging with the message showing every few seconds. Still trying to determine if that is normal - my other plate doesn't do that. It just does what it needs to do and I never know except for the lights.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] MANswers:
Nothing happens. No notification, no wake ups no beeps.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Thanks man. Bad news, bad device. Oh well, next. I love it, just wish I could use it. CS was great though. No hassle at all. Just provide POP and discuss the problem, new device shipped. Three days from first contact.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
You can see it here where I made the arrow.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
So far from what I have.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] johnsonsteven1986:
i was about the order the black one with nfc support. i have the white one on order. should i go ahead and get the black one or stick with the white one
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Mofo84:
If u don't mind the cover bulge under the camera get the black one. But the white one u can barely feel it's there. I am using the white one.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] toenail_flicker:
Same here unless I have issues I'll stay with it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Kawaisa:
Yeah I saw your pictures, I was referring to MAN's photos
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Vulpix:
Did you strip the white one? The one with the tick? I have the same thing, and I do agree it's thin as hell, but it still bulges just a bit. Did you manage to shave off even more thickness from that?