yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
The G2 has other special features like display ram or something or that sorts, you can read a review of what it contains for specifics. Besides it's difficult for a 2300 battery to beat a 3k if they're the same technology.

The N5 isn't out but I can't see it beating the G2 unless the N5 they reduce die size, underclock, use oled, display ram, etc.
[Nexus 5 General] Thank Me Later:
It may not beat the G2 hardware wise but software is on a different level with Google phones. Well, depending on a persons personal preference.
[Nexus 5 General] uploder:
ehh not right away. Dont ever want to deal with the possible headaches for being an early adopter but if google goes the same route and has some sort of pricing similar to the N4, yeah I totally would
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Flashing a ROM (without a native kernel) is going to make the screen smaller as well?
[Nexus 5 General] anwedr:
I could use my CHristmas bonus to purchase the Nexus 5, and the Nexus 4 could be my backup phone seeing my Nokia N8 stopped functioning. I will wait and see if the Nexus 5 is worth the upgrade.
[Nexus 5 General] adrian089:
It depends on the price. I just got my Nexus 4 and I love it, other than the camera. Had it rooted, flashed, and LTE enabled within 5 minutes of receiving it and don't see much to improve on other than the camera and glass back. Also, I'd love expandable storage.
[Nexus 5 General] mailboy1412:
You can have both. Nexus 4 for development and Ubuntu. Nexus 5 as main phone.
[Nexus 5 General] kBTWOFOUR:
I will only grade if the price is about the same as the Nexus 4 was when it was first released. I plan on using the Nexus 4 as an extra phone.
[Nexus 5 General] M@XLOL:
I am just waiting for it to go on sale so they can take my money.
[Nexus 5 General] Emama:
Depends on the price, the camera and the battery..nono if it is 2300mAh
[Nexus 5 General] Maustin96:
I'm 80% sure I won't.

I'm really happy with my 4. Its held up extremely well since I got it in April and the size of the screen is absolute perfection (for me). I just can't picture myself using a 5 inch+ phone in public, but that's just me.

Going off the renders and concepts and leaks we've all seen so far, definitely not. Does not look worthy to be a successor of the Nexus 4.

If Google get the price right again and I can manage to get a part time job then maybe I will change my mind. Ps4 and all....
[Nexus 5 General] Jamal Ahmed:
That's a total no-brainer for me :D I'll be upgrading no matter what
[Nexus 5 General] Tricepz:
All depends on the price, if it will be around the same as the n4 theres not even a doubt.
[Nexus 5 General] meatwad0222:
What's really funny is y'all

1. Act like this is the first device they've made

2. Forgot how much sh*! Was talked about this one and the others before they came out

3. And how many will really preorder as soon as you can.

Y'all really make me lolz sometimes, I so love my xda family. Y'all act just like my real family.

That being said I plan to get it and pass my well preserved, loved, and cherished nexus 4 down to my wife so she's finally on the nexus line (hopefully for once a phone screen we survive longer than a year under her watch, is hate to see my favorite phone ever treated that way) and I expect the 5 to fulfill my wildest fantasies aka sandwiches and bjs
[Nexus 5 General] eksasol:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45554921&postcount=46
[Nexus 5 General] Maustin96:
Well then.... That sounds extremely promising
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
Being a fan of the nexus brand and what Google is doing with andoid, the release of a new nexus device always puts me in temptation. But i gave it a thought, the nexus 4 is still one of (if not THE) quickest and smoothest phone around at the moment. It does anything you throw at it and it will stay a capable device for a while. Probably it'll get updated even beyond 4.4, and i'm pretty sure it's going to handle those updates well (no slow downs, like what happened to the galaxy nexus).

I think a lot of us got sucked in this consumerization system, that we always have to have the best at a certain moment.Well i decided to take a different path this time, as long as my phone will be capable of doing everything i need and getting software support from Google, i see no reason for upgrading. I'd rather invest the money in something worthier.
[Nexus 5 General] Lownita:
Qualcomm 800 SoC, much improved camera, 3000 mah battery, improved speaker, no more Wi-Fi delay, same pricing.

If all of those apply, I will consider upgrading!

Tapatalked from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 General] vvarma1:
The current leaks from the FCC suggest there is going to be a 2300mAh battery with the nexus 5. Considering the nexus 5 will likely have the same snapdragon 800 soc as the lg g2, doesn't this seem a bit small even if it has a slightly smaller screen which may only be 720p?
[Nexus 5 General] SinisterSHO:
I don't need to, it probably will. But not until next year when any bugs have been brought up and worked out.
[Nexus 5 General] Abd121:
I think Google have to give us

A good reason to buy it or

Nexus 4 is good for now

Send this by my Nexus 4

Using xda premium

on

ROM: PAC man nightly

Kernel: Matrix 10.5

Sorry for any English mistakes
[Nexus 5 General] Ace42:
I'm waiting for the Next-Next gen Socs.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4UvCMfZ0I[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
I had thought about upgrading but by the time I was going to trade my N4 into CEX for £180 the price was slashed on Play store and the trade in went down as well :P. Love my Nexus 4 and the only real fault is the battery life and a nice feature would have been LTE (for UK!), I think I will be holding off till the Nexus after 5 as by then the tech would have moved enough to justify a move however if the N5 is based off the G2 I can see it being a smashing success again as the G2 seems like a very nice upgrade!.

Hoping that the N5 and futue nexus phones are slightly smaller in width as right now its about 1 or 2 mm off being able to comfortably use it with one hand, the G2 has a much thinner bezel so that would do it for me but I think they have increased the screen size again :(, I cant stretch my fingers any further so that was another reason for holding off :P.

Eagerly awaiting Android 4.4 though!
[Nexus 5 General] compuw22c:
Haven't you ever heard the expression "Get outta Dodge?"
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
The Nexus 5 is 2mm shorter and 0.5mm smaller in width.
[Nexus 5 General] badboy47:
So far i am very happy with N4 and I won't be getting N5 day one. I will wait for couple months or a year before thinking of upgrading.
[Nexus 5 General] hicks12:
thats music to my ears, shame that I cant get as much for my Nexus 4 trade in now though :(.

Would like to see confirmation that it will be £290 like the Nexus 4 then I would be happy to look at selling my n4 and using a cheapy temp :).
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
If it is under $400 I'll sell my nexus for $100 and but they n5
[Nexus 5 General] NissanskylineN1:
So why would anyone want a newer phone? The N4 does its job perfectly fine even at stock settings. If its too slow, you can OC and UV. The camera isn't even that bad. In addition, money doesn't grow on trees. Spending another $200-300 and then wasting time transferring all your crap onto the new phone is a waste. Unless you need it, don't waste resources. Besides, we will have updates for years to come.
[Nexus 5 General] SinisterSHO:
Thanks, dad.
[Nexus 5 General] NissanskylineN1:
Reality and common sense is a *****, isn't it?
[Nexus 5 General] eksasol:
For $100, put me first in line to buy it then. Unless you mean you a broken one.
[Nexus 5 General] SinisterSHO:
Hey, I can't take it with me, so I'm spending it on whatever I can.
[Nexus 5 General] NissanskylineN1:
Put it in the bank? You moving somewhere?
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Why? The N4 doesn't give me LTE on AT&T. The camera sucks. The battery life is not great. There are lots of reasons for some people to upgrade.

And setting up a new phone is not that difficult.
[Nexus 5 General] NissanskylineN1:
Ok the LTE and Camera are reasons to upgrade. But the LTE has a hack. Battery life lasts me at least 24 hours in stock config. No clue why people are complaining. And setting up a new phone and transferring is time wasting.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
There's no hack to enable LTE on AT&T. It only supports band 4.
[Nexus 5 General] Lucke:
between the N5 and the Z1... we shall see as the release gets closer
[Nexus 5 General] md1008:
Had the galaxy nexus for a minute and was surprised to see how butter smooth it was. I am a big fan of the note 2 so I may consider getting a Nexus but honestly I think I will hold out for the 4.3 update to the note 2 to see if the spen features get ported to the note 2.

Come tax return if I do upgrade I will likely choose between note 3 and nexus 5.

Now if google would make a wacam nexus with "spen" functionality to Google keep I would most certainly jump ship
[Nexus 5 General] dorkboy69:
At&T has band 4 in some locations. I am one of the lucky ones to have AT&T and LTE.

I will be upgrading to the N5 and giving the N4 to my son.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Yes, in a very small number of locations. I can't wait for the N5 that has almost every possible LTE band.
[Nexus 5 General] M@XLOL:
I was getting ready to dump verizon because it seemed like they would not be getting another nexus. If this drops on VZW I'll be so happy!
[Nexus 5 General] Whyzor:
I use a camera app called "Camera Zoom FX". It has a stable shot mode, which waits for the accelerometer to stabilize before snapping a picture, it gets pretty good results in dim lighting where normal camera apps don't have this feature would get a blurry shot. Highly recommended for phones that don't have OIS (optical image stabilization) like the new rumored Nexus 5.

Qualcomm 800 SoC should be thriftier on battery since it has more integrated components (especially radio). wifi delay is gone in latest Android 4.3 update for N4.

I'm getting the N5 mainly for bigger screen, better battery life than N4, better camera. Hopefully the double-tap to wake & sleep the screen is included too, I imagine it's a nice feature (uses accelerometer to sense 2 taps).
[Nexus 5 General] twowheeler:
Exactly. Seems pretty stupid to buy a new phone when the previous one is still working perfectly and still has the specs to compete with everything that's on the market right now. I mean: have you ever encountered something your phone couldn't handle?
[Nexus 5 General] Goku80:
My phone for me is the best one so far. Love it to bits and do not need anything else for now
[Nexus 5 General] Reamer09:
I'll be upgrading. I just bought the N4 a few weeks ago due to the price drop knowing that the N5 will be out soon. Once I upgrade I can sell my current backup phone (HTC One XL) and have the two latest Nexus devices. Then the N4 will run Ubuntu Touch exclusively while the N5 stays on Android. I'm a phone whore and spending money helps the economy (that's my justification I keep telling myself). Having said that, I wouldn't consider the N5 if it wasn't rumored to be smaller than the N4 despite its larger screen. I never want a phone that's larger than the N4 so if it ends up being the size of the G2 then I'll be happy sticking with the N4.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 5 General] NissanskylineN1:
A 2 foot drop ;)

I hate to sound like a dad again, but if you need a tax return to be able to get a new phone, I'd save it up instead. My 2 cents.:silly:
[Nexus 5 General] hikarugo:
I kept confused between to buy the nexus 5 or the G2. Despite its more expensive price and glossy plastic back, I take G2 to my consideration because it has 3000mAh battery while nexus 5 has only 2300 mAh.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Nexus 5 General] sunil237:
Nexus 4 has 2100 mah.

Nexus 5 will have 3000(or higher) mah

From what I've read, if you can show me where it says 2300 that would be good.

Is the price confirmed to be £239 + £10 delivery?
[Nexus 5 General] Treshy:
its exactly 2300 mAh as seen on the leaked nexus 5 fcc filings...

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9070 mit Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 5 General] cenwesi:
I am with you on this one. I am watching the LG G2 closely and i am very impressed with that phone. There are three things i am watching out for on the next nexus phone. The camera, Battery and USB-OTG. Seeing how both are really screwed up on the N4 if it happens again on the next nexus i am done with nexus... I really hated LG for how they screwed up the G2x and i am hoping they don't just abandon the G2 without updates.

Google really need to step up on this Nexus device. Give us more space or allow the damn micro-sd card.
[Nexus 5 General] Johmama:
As I posted earlier, I will definitely be upgrading as soon as I can. I bought my Nexus 4 in April and it's still in great condition, but I'm so excited for the Nexus 5. I will keep my N4 as a backup/development/flashing/"beach" phone and use my Nexus 5 as a main phone/development/flashing phone as I do my N4 right now. It will be nice to be able to tinker with experimental drivers like how Ubuntu OS and Firefox OS is right now for more than 20 minutes without needing to flash back to a stable driver for phone reasons. Plus, I love the Nexus line too much to not buy the next one.
[Nexus 5 General] lombardo8:
I have had my N4 since November and I am thinking about upgrading to the N5. The only upside for me will be a slightly bigger screen. LTE is nice but I have no plans to switch to their exorbitant tariffs anytime soon. The N4 has a nice premium feel and unless the N5 can replicate or better this, I will be keeping my N4 for another year.
[Nexus 5 General] Stories:
If the price is around the same price as the N4 I'm likely in. If it has a 32gb+ option, I'm absolutely in.
[Nexus 5 General] trsix:
stupid

Stupids getting the 5 (me)
[Nexus 5 General] elmopeppo:
I love my N4, but as long as the N5 gives me 32GB and a better camera, I'm in! :D
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
One thing that i don't like with cameras on LG phones , is the "breathing effect" when recording video. It's the "animation" you see when autofocus kicks in. It's really annoying. You rarely notice it on samsung or htc phones (for example).
[Nexus 5 General] Manbot27:
My next phone will definitely need to have a better battery. People satisfied with the battery life just don't know any better or don't have anything better to compare it to. The nexus 4 battery isn't horrendous but off of wifi it struggles if you use data brightness Google now etc on.

I want to be able to use the features of my phone throughout the day without worrying about charging it. Use a phone like the note 2 or the G2 droid maxx and you'll see what great battery life is supposed to look like.
[Nexus 5 General] pikachukaki:
I will 1st check the specs...if it has a huge difference from n4 specially battery....and then if the price is right i will buy it...
[Nexus 5 General] ruul6207:
I hope a great camera

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] Brad1971:
Google said that one of there main priorities was going to be a great camera experience so I bet it does come with a much better camera.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
If you are buying based on the size of the battery, then you won't be buying it. It will not require a battery the size of the G2 battery since the screen is smaller and KitKat is suppose to be much more efficient.
[Nexus 5 General] Flippy125:
I was going to upgrade until I blew up the engine in my car. Maybe I'll get the Nexus 5 (2014)
[Nexus 5 General] big gulps huh?:
I have LTE and the battery usually lasts me long enough. Come tax return time I may think about it otherwise I will stick with the 4 for this year.
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
I will buy the N5 on launch day no matter what the price is. I am also debating whether to sell my N4 after that or throw it at the wall and test how strong the back glass really is...
[Nexus 5 General] pikachukaki:
4.2 was supposed to be more battery efficient...i will see the user reviews here..a can't buy it 1st day so..i will have a better opinion!!!
[Nexus 5 General] bp328i:
The Nexus 4 is my 2nd Nexus phone of about 10 different Android phones.

The first Nexus phone I had was the Galaxy Nexus then got the GS3, then the Note 2 (loved the Note 2) and now have the Nexus 4. I'll be leaving the Nexus when the Note 3 arrives at my door since I'm pre-ordering tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be back sooner or later.

I use my phone a lot for business and when I travel the S-Pen and larger screen of the Note just works out better for me.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Najuto9tail:
HI, I do not know if this is a common problem with xperia ion but sometimes I make calls I cannot manage to make them well because I get a weird alien sound, sometimes it happens when I receive calls to. I have Straight Talk At&t simcard, with black96i rom installed. It have happened to me in all JB roms. Any help?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] yUlekk:
Maybe they are trying to comunicate?

I think it must be damaged speaker
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Najuto9tail:
:laugh:

You made me laugh, well the speaker is not damaged because in at&t ics firmware it did not have this problem. It only happens with other roms that are not at&t stock.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cities516:
A rough guess: Maybe flashing a baseband from stock lt28at ROM will work?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] monivan:
Say hi to them for me! Told them we need another pyramid.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Akil97:
Maybe an Invasion! Lol :P
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Najuto9tail:
Lol, I figure out that I just need to soft reboot my phone once in a while. I installed xposed framework and installed a reboot mode. Which helps me soft reboot phone quickly. That fixes the issue.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Spectre51:
It's a common problem for the LT28at running international based firmware.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Moto X Original Android Development] jcase:
Update 9/14/2013

A better solution has been released, please update using it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45598679

Warning: Don't attempt to use this on a device that isn't Motorola.

Lets break this sub forum open with a good one.

See: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/09/12/exclusive-how-to-root-moto-x-ultra-mini-and-maxx/ for the story

Bounty payouts or donations can be paypaled to jcase@cunninglogic.com, or use the donate button to the left. If its for the bounty, please reply below with confirmation number or pm me.

These files are not to be mirrored elsewhere, no included in other packages. Its simple already, no need to repackage it.

[YOUTUBE]B9aTUp_5vio[/YOUTUBE]

#Filename differs per firmware, get MotoRoot-1-att.apk for AT&T, MotoRoot-1-vzw.apk for Verizon, etc the -r paramenter is required if installing with adb

adb install -r <filename>

Run MotoRoot app

Press Setup

Install Supersu app

Phone will reboot, and you will be rooted as soon as device is fully booted.

Limitations:

Uninstalling the app will disable root until reinstalled

supersu is not able to update su yet, this will be fixed in an update shortly.

su is maintained in a ext4 img at /data/xbin.img and mounted over /system/xbin at BOOT_COMPLETE.

su is not available for the first few seconds of boot, im working on this.

/system is write protected, even with unlocked bootloaders you can not write to it while booted in Android.

Unroot:

Two choices, factory reset, or press the unroot menu option in the app.

Problems:

Run into a problem? try hittung unroot then re-rooting

Credits:

We use two vulns in this app, first being 9695860 to gain system user, then a symlink attack of mine to get root from system.

xIndirect (nick) for assisting me from start to finish

Whoever originally found bug 9695860

Saurik for his description of 9695860

Ryan Welton for his 9695860 tool

Dave Kover for yet another kick butt icon

and Anthony Fox/Droid-Hive for great help with getting the device to me today
[Moto X Original Android Development] Indirect:
Rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[Moto X Original Android Development] robstunner:
She works! Thank you sir!
[Moto X Original Android Development] terabyte128:
Wooohooo thank you so much for putting in the time and effort and skills into getting this out so quickly!
[Moto X Original Android Development] infinit22:
Worked perfect on the Verizon model!
[Moto X Original Android Development] jhhoffma:
Simply outstanding! Great work, Justin!
[Moto X Original Android Development] kornklown69:
I get paid next Friday money going to u!
[Moto X Original Android Development] Dark9781:
Thank you jcase. Just sent my $20 donation.
[Moto X Original Android Development] _MetalHead_:
Awesome!!! My Moto X is FINALLY rooted!!! Thank you to JCase and all who helped make this possible!

[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]- I will update the bounty thread tonight and PM everyone tomorrow when I get off work. I will ask everyone to post their confirmation numbers in the bounty thread that way it will be easier for me to keep track of who paid and strike them off the list. Thanks again for your hard work.
[Moto X Original Android Development] htowngator:
Has anyone edited the SQL DB to remove the entitlement check for tethering?
[Moto X Original Android Development] Infekxion:
Awesome!, thanks! and here you go 3R2859269H889222B.
[Moto X Original Android Development] kornklown69:
does cwm superuser work alright?
[Moto X Original Android Development] Jesushasadroid:
Awesome...! Loving it...
[Moto X Original Android Development] kydkupa:
Thank so much for this Jcase, indirect and everyone else who made this possible. You guys are beyond awesome, and i salute you.... Didn't mean to get all mushy but I'm so happy to have root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will try and donate tomorrow when i get paid. Thanks again!!!!
[Moto X Original Android Development] terabyte128:
I tried to but I can't find the db entry for entitlement_check... any ideas on where motorola could have hidden it differently?
[Moto X Original Android Development] n82k:
What are the differences between the Verizon and us cellular versions of the x and could this possibly be used for root of XT1055? I know I'm unlockable, but can't kill my warranty just yet.
[Moto X Original Android Development] htowngator:
Has to be in there somewhere.... Any of the developers know?

Edit: Try this and let me know http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1981625

I get mine on Monday.
[Moto X Original Android Development] kornklown69:
clockworkmod superuser installed su just fine
[Moto X Original Android Development] pudgewack:
Thanks! Paypal confirmation# 0RY74014B6436863F.
[Moto X Original Android Development] mentose457:
Thats strange, I quoted you before your edit...

It may be the same as for the RAZR HD.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1945274&highlight=teather
[Moto X Original Android Development] _MetalHead_:
Guys, if you pledged and paid, please post your confirmation numbers in the bounty thread so I can easily keep track of everything. Thank you!
[Moto X Original Android Development] jhnl33:
great work! haven't tested it, but just donated 20 bucks!

0SF899246N125633L
[Moto X Original Android Development] seanrobot:
Thanks so much! So easy to Root! Great method!
[Moto X Original Android Development] htowngator:
Well from what I remember on RAZR HD it was in settings storage, settings.db, "entitlement_check".
[Moto X Original Android Development] jhnl33:
doesnt look like anyone had this issue, but after installing supersu, it says i need to update the SU binary. But it keeps on failing. Not sure why. the motoroot app worked fine. any help?
[Moto X Original Android Development] infinit22:
You don't need to update. You are rooted. DL a app that needs root to check
[Moto X Original Android Development] COLJ04:
OP states that update will fail and he is going to fix it soon. But I assure you that the root is there if you ran the app.

Cole

Cole
[Moto X Original Android Development] jhnl33:
you're right, thanks!
[Moto X Original Android Development] t0dbld:
not to be an ass here J but if root is not operational till boot complete, and you can not write to system once device is booted than what exactly is root doing for anyone ?