yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] xeon980:
I'm currently using an aluminium bumper on my Z1. I've had it for a few months now, and its holding up just fine apart from a few minor scratches on the outside from general wear and tear.

No screen protectors are used, however. Might get that sorted quick smart, though!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Furma:
cool case, any negative sides to it? whats it made out of? are side buttons easily clickable? can the case whitstand impacts?

tnx
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] LeeTL:
used that for several weeks. scratches far too easily. doesn't provide impact protection.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] nifty_mats:
I think its strong enough. But, I agree it scratches far too easily. Pure polycarbonate material is bound to be like dat. Its easily scratched, is slicker than glass! & is tougher than ordinary plastic.

Btw, which case are u currently using??
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] petefeet:
I don't know about you guys, but...

My experience is that any case that has solid plastic or metal in contact with the phone is not ideal. The problem is that (unless you never put your phone in your pocket), bits of lint and grit get under the case, and as the case moves in relation to the phone, these rub abrasions on the phone's surface.

The best case in my experience is a hybrid with a true rubber / silicone inner and a plastic / other hard shell outer. The rubber not only lets less in

foreign objects, but because it moves less relative to the phone, there is less rubbing.

So... any good hybrid silicone & plastic or metal cases for the Z1 anyone can recommend?

Currently looks like the options are:

Incipio DualPro

Case-mate Tough

Cheers
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] ron76426:
I've ordered this one

Very nice at just 300rs

http://m.ebay.in/itm?itemId=231053619584
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] SNYXPR:
Have'nt seen this one yet,

fits great and looks awesome!

bought it on a local dutch webshop, but just google it to find more, the official webpage is :

http://www.ion-factory.com/Z1_Predator.php

there are more models and also available for Xperia Z!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Zerousen:
Been posted a few times in this thread, actually. Aesthetically, it seems alright, but I don't think it's worth the price.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] SNYXPR:
It's not so thick at the corners but feels strong enough, I guess I have paid just for the piece of carbon :P

But whatever, it looks awesome to me!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] moosebreath:
Where did you bought it?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Crayt:
Available for order at the official website http://www.ion-factory.com.

I personnally ordered the blazer in Black, like stated in my quick review a few pages back. Still has to take photos though.

The same design has 3 names :

- Blazer ($40, for black or white colors) at http://www.ion-factory.com/Z1_Blazer.php

- Blazer Lucent ($25, for grey, green, blue, red, yellow, violet colors) at http://www.ion-factory.com/Z1_lucent.php.

- Predator ($50, for champagne, silver, gunmetal colors) at http://www.ion-factory.com/Z1_Predator.php

One thing to know : first time I dropped the phone from around 30cm/11in, one of the cover's corner got a small crack. So it won't last long if you drop the phone very often. But for the moment, it still holds and protects the phone perfectly. Plus, it looks very nice and fits the dock. Totally worth it for me, but won't suit someone looking for really good and heavy protection.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] hrki:
Can you share picture with z1 in it?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] FranzDages:
No magnetic charger cut-out, though.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Balaram12:
Im looking for the carbon sticker and devilcase bumper

It will look awesome!

Buy I just dont know where to get them

Im from Malaysia and its from US

Hope I find it.somewhere
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] xSebbz:
Celly Wallet Case for Sony Xperia Z1 - Black & Beige

Gave 20$ for this case. It's great and still holds up well after 4 months of using it with the phone. I can't say I recommend it. I would prefer something like the Oppo Find 5 Cases It is much thinner and feels great to hold. Anyone got something like this for the Z1?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Skaytex:
Anyone knows a good pocket pouch for z1?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] 3vilhomer:
hi, is this a transparent clear soft case?? i afraid the hard clear case will scratch my phone more...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Zerousen:
It's a hard case, and if anything, the case is the one that's going to be scratched up, people that have it say that it scratches up horribly, however, the fit is nice and they don't seem to worry about the phone itself.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] 3vilhomer:
actually im more concern will it scratch my phone up from the case inside... cause i have those clear hard case for my old old SE K850 and it scratch up my phone badly from inside of the case...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Zerousen:
In my experience, any type of snap on case will scratch, whether it be the back or the frame. I don't really trust any snap on cases.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] venomab:
I recommend Case mate tough. High quality product.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] quailallstar:
What do you all think of the Case-Mate Naked Tough case? It's not available in the US which is absurd but I've found a UK retailer selling them online. Guess because Sony phones are not popular in the US there is no reason to sell these cases stateside.

Thoughts and or suggestions? My idea is to have a case which you can still see the (white) beauty of the Z1.

Also found this nice clear one from Krusell in frost clear. This looks to have a more premium feel from the looks when compared to the Case Mate plastic one.

http://www.krusellcases.com/us/p_krusell_product.aspx?i=253679
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] spielnicht:
Why do some cases have a cutout next to the rear camera and some don't? What sensor are they exposing and what is it used for?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] quailallstar:
Antennas maybe? I'm going g to look at some rear glass panel removal videos to see what lies under the spots uncovered in the cases.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] nifty_mats:
Saves a hell lot of battery as the gap leads to better & easier signal reception. I've 2 cases- one wid the gap & the gap without the gap. Battery life is a lot better on the one wid the antenna gap !!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] spielnicht:
Took your idea and found a video on Youtube of the Z1 teardown. It looks like there was suppose to be something there, but there actually isn't anything, unless like you said, it could be an antenna for one of the variants. Look at the still shot.

The case that I have don't have the cutout and if it is indeed an antenna, I can't notice difference.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] punkt:
It is for ir blaster for japanese market
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] KBEscalona:
www.seidoonline.com

Case for Z1 like otterbox with kickstand and separate holster

www.tech21.com

Case for Z1s
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] mbp986:
I bought mine thru amazon

http://www.amazon.com/DevilCase-Xpe...01328599&sr=1-2&keywords=xperia+z1+devil+case
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] spielnicht:
Ah, that explains it then. The one feature I never used on my Xpria ZL and don't care that it's not on my X1.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] nifty_mats:
Bought this 3200 maH extended battery case from eBay today to accompany me on my occasional long trips. Its awesome!!

Its weight is 81g, but its evenly distributed. Doesn't feel heavy at all. Feels so nice to hold in hand with the matte finish. Just awesome!!

Now I know how some cars & bikes feel so gud to drive which is likened to their weight distribution (chassis work + aerodynamicity) due to which you don't feel a thing. This is engineering!!

Btw got it at a discount in a closeout sale from a seller in NY. Enjoy. :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] amey2606:
Hello guys,

A question.

Is there a case available for the Z1 like the SCR10 for the Xperia Z2.?

Preferably from Sony itself.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] angvil:
I have been using mine also purchased from amazon for over a month now AMAZING case! By far best case I tried on my Z1. the phone unfortunately fell a couple of times but the case protected it 100%. Last accident was a couple of days ago it fell on the street!!!!! AAANDDDDDDD the phone was 100% okay except a small scratch on the case aluminium itself but I guarantee if it fell on the street using any other cover/case/bumper the phone would've been damaged or dented or even worse broke!

Thank you DevilCase I suggest all Z1 owners purchase this case! Price is a bit expensive though but oh well nothing good comes cheap
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] montrese04:
Hi im a diesel mechanic and i dont keep anything in my pocket with my phone but some how the screen broke. while waiting to replace the screen can someone advise some good ballistic style case(s).

thanks in advance
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] HotKillerZzz:
How about getting a tempered glass screen protector. U can't really prevent a Screen from cracks if it is hit directly on the screen. Best u could do is use a tempered glass screen protector to reduce the dmg.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Unfortunate:
Problem with charging case?

I bought charging case also,

But I got a problem with the power indicator, power run out at half of the indicator.

Also I did not believed that it's 3200 mA

How are your's quality?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] グリッチ:
Wow, I usually hate cases and never put a case on my phones. They've never gotten any damage, however some of these are just spectacular! I'm definitely going to consider buying one now.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Abu-7abash:
Guys, I really liked the Ballostic Charcoal case, problem is though, its still out of stock on ebay and Amazon. Any of you is/was on the same boat? What other options is there with the same specifications?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Abu-7abash:
Been enjoying this case for the last two days, certainly recommended. Loving everything about it!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FPR3KSW?vs=1

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] hyelton:
+1 on that one! I got it last week. Gonna see how it holds out on Traveling and several days in Nashville :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] sivasli87:
Headcase is also a very good case

Hello,

I use the case of "headcase". You can use it also with the magnetic cable.:laugh:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] klingklang01:
Just cross read 56 pages and did not saw what I need. I have the love mei huge housing brick. It is too heavy to be nice. I'd like to find an alternative similar to it that give extra protection for outdoor sport. Something with flap over connection and will stand up to 10 hours of rain attached to a dual sport motorcycle. I don't trust the Z1 for that. Waterproof box like the rammount aquabox I use tend to make it overheat. That is why I am looking for an open air solution. Someone saw something ????? There is plenty of interesting thing seen but only for the 2 major brand made for follower.....(personal opinion)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] [Fenix]:
Nice one! :good:

I'm interested on this, please share your experiences :fingers-crossed:

And what do you think about this?

Sony Xperia Z1 Silicon cover (PURO)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Abu-7abash:
Im still loving it, made my Z1 experience two times better! Im talking about my case that I've linked above though, I've no idea about your Puro one. Never tried it.

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] angvil:
Personally I tried this it felt flimsy to hold and didn't feel so much protective for the phone. I after purchased the DevilCase for Z1 and let me tell you the phone has fell in the house and fell on hard floors and street not a scratch on the screen. Well DevilCase took all the bumps I can't say it's scratchless it did get some bumps (The case not the phone) But hey rather the beautiful case than the expensive phone.

Check them out on amazon I posted the link a few posts back

Edited:

Actually here is the link. http://www.amazon.com/DevilCase-Xpe...01328599&sr=1-2&keywords=xperia+z1+devil+case
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] bewA:
Has anyone come across any case that covers up all the ports/flaps or at the very least just exposes the magnetic charging connector?

I find that the flaps work themselves open for some reason!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] CreeVal:
Just make sure you are not a victim of the self cracking issue.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] [Fenix]:
Are there cover like this for Z1?

http://www.puro.it/en/principale/st...ra-slim?p_p_externalSpeechId=103#.VAMiYaM4dJs

So beautifull and tiny
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] coolmen777:
Like this one? Was considering it myself, not sure about being soft touch, probably just a plain silicone (TPU/Gel), but looks like might fit the Sony dock and looks decent with all ports (including magnetic dock and USB) open. Anyone bought something similar that can attest to quality? I also saw this one on Aliexpress, but it's no longer avail. Hope this helps.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] [Fenix]:
Secon link not working buddy...anyway the first one seems good
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] coolmen777:
Yeah, like I said that listing was removed (no longer avail). Another seller listed it here... Do note that the the front top seems to be blocking the LED notification light. eBay version that I mentioned earlier looks like a better fit.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] dijorc:
can a phone get too hot due to the cover?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Trespassing:
No.

Von meinem Sony Xperia Z1 gesendet. Mit Hirn.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Zerousen:
I happen to have the red version of that case, which I bought here from Amazon. It's a very cheap case, with sharp edges that do not feel very good in your hands at all. I wouldn't recommend the case, even with such a low price. I'm pretty sure it may have even scratched my phone in the small time that I had to use it.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] d3nnisd:
I am looking for a nice Bumper for the xperia z1. I have a Lastucase backside(walnut wood!, Very nice!) And i want that to be shown so i need a bumper. I got this from Dx.com. But it let loose as you can see:

Anyone have some good suggestions? I want a sturdy one, that holds. Material doesnt matter.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] kos25k:
guys did anyone find something similar to this????? http://eyepatchcase.com/ case with camera protection like old mobile phones!!!!!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] david azzz:
I use this case LOVE MEI

Is excellent

A little heavy, but get used

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221846550908
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] kos25k:
Looks nice dude but maybe i check this for my z1 compact!for Z1 i think it is big enough.. ;)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] david azzz:
look good on my z1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] kos25k:
basically is more beautifull!!!!!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] david azzz:
The most important device is protected from falls

I've broken the back cover from falling

And another advantage

No more bleeding Flash
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] kos25k:
How can this be explained?basically i don't have flash bleeding when i have flash led to torch..
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] david azzz:
I upped the intensity flash 2 times

with

Little Mod of my.

Because the rear cover of the Z1 Made of glass.

Sometimes there a situation that the flash is bleeding

the case of LOVE MEI is a hard case.

The interior is made from silicone

Above aluminum frame

So

The all the phone is covered ;)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] kos25k:
mmm interesting...maybe i will watch some youtube video reviews...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
IMAK Transparent Crystal Hard Cover Case

Ebay

Item location: SHENZHEN, GUANGDONG, China

Postage to: Worldwide

Excludes: New Zealand, Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Guadeloupe, Marshall Islands, Wallis and Futuna, Gambia, Malaysia, Mayotte, Taiwan, Poland, Suriname, Oman, Kenya, United Arab Emirates, Argentina, Middle East, Guinea-Bissau, Togo, Senegal, Armenia, Bhutan, Uzbekistan, Ireland, Qatar, Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas), Netherlands, Burundi, Slovakia, Iraq, Equatorial Guinea, Slovenia, Thailand, North America, Aruba, American Samoa, Sweden, Iceland, Macedonia, Liechtenstein, Israel, Kuwait, Belgium, Algeria, Benin, Russian Federation, Oceania, Antigua and Barbuda, Italy, Swaziland, Pakistan, Tanzania, Ukraine, Singapore, Panama, Burkina Faso, Jersey, Kyrgyzstan, Switzerland, Reunion, Djibouti, Chile, Puerto Rico, China, Mali, Croatia, Republic of, Botswana, Cambodia, Portugal, Indonesia, Malta, Tajikistan, Vietnam, Paraguay, Cayman Islands, Saint Helena, Cyprus, Rwanda, Seychelles, Australia, Bangladesh, Austria, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Gabon Republic, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast), Norway, Kiribati, Turkmenistan, Greece, Grenada, Haiti, Greenland, Yemen, Afghanistan, Montenegro, Africa, Mongolia, Nepal, Bahrain, Bahamas, Asia, Svalbard and Jan Mayen, United Kingdom, Dominica, Hungary, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Angola, South America, South East Asia, Western Samoa, France, Mozambique, Namibia, Peru, Central America and Caribbean, Guatemala, Denmark, Vatican City State, Solomon Islands, Sierra Leone, Nauru, French Guiana, Anguilla, El Salvador, Guam, Micronesia, Dominican Republic, Cameroon, Guyana, Azerbaijan Republic, Macau, Georgia, Tonga, New Caledonia, San Marino, Eritrea, Saint Kitts-Nevis, Morocco, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Belarus, Mauritania, Belize, Philippines, Uruguay, Congo, Democratic Republic of the, Western Sahara, Congo, Republic of the, French Polynesia, Cook Islands, Colombia, Comoros, Spain, Estonia, Bermuda, Montserrat, Korea, South, Zambia, Somalia, Vanuatu, Ecuador, Albania, Monaco, Guernsey, Ethiopia, Laos, Niger, Venezuela, Ghana, Cape Verde Islands, Martinique, Moldova, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Madagascar, Lebanon, Liberia, Bolivia, Maldives, Gibraltar, Libya, Hong Kong, Central African Republic, Lesotho, Nigeria, Saint Lucia, Mauritius, Guinea, Jordan, Canada, British Virgin Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Chad, Andorra, Romania, Costa Rica, India, Mexico, Serbia, Kazakhstan, Netherlands Antilles, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Lithuania, Trinidad and Tobago, Palau, Malawi, Nicaragua, Finland, Tunisia, Luxembourg, Uganda, Brazil, Turkey, Barbados, Tuvalu, Jamaica, Latvia, Egypt, Niue, Brunei Darussalam, Honduras, Virgin Islands (U.S.), South Africa
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Mi|enko:
I have one of those on my XZ and love it. Probably go this route for my Z1.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] n4v1n:
My only concert with this one is that if i drop it, it has no soft layer on the inside and it might damage the phone. Any experience with that?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] obender:
-del
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Mi|enko:
The one for my xz actually has rubber lining around the inside.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] n4v1n:
ooh ok then I think I shall wait for something like that to come around! Thanks
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dolextech-Smartphone-Nillkin-white10-smartphone/dp/B00F9OHL5O/ref=sr_1_77?ie=UTF8&qid=1379840654&sr=8-77&keywords=xperia+z1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] obender:
I would be interested in this one too, who do you think will be selling them?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] sm.vassallo:
Where can you get these?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] RuffaloBone:
Those aren't for the Z1 but they have similar ones on tvc mall.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] shem2409:
I think that they are as you can see them listed on http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1243093400/For_Sony_Xperia_Z1_L39h_Aluminum.html

The problem is that you have to order a minimum of 10 and on some sellers 500 as the site is for retailers not consumers. I guess that we will have to wait a little bit for them to show up on ebay.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] DefunctiO:
I have just bought this cases..

Hello, I don't have my Z1 yet but I have already bought 2 cases..

First one is IMAK transparent case

other one is nillkin

I will let you know more details when they arrive :)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] inffy:
I had a nillkin case for.my htc one. It was very good considering the price
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] daleski75:
Me too and definitely would get one again in the future.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] RuffaloBone:
I meant the ones in the picture. You can clearly see they are on a Z. Different ports and camera location.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] sm.vassallo:
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z1-gel-shell-nero-black

Going for this from Clove with Anti Finger mark screen protector
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] obender:
Is there good rubberized case out there? Just to cover the back since it is a bit slippery.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] maverick1103:
Just bought this case from Amazon, it's for the attachment lenses, not bad imo makes it look more of a camera than a phone.

Sony ACX2 QX10/QX100 Case for Lens Style Camera and Xperia Z1 - Black

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00F5X13V2/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_gb?ie=UTF8
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] shem2409:
I just received my IMAK Slim Crystal Clear case for Sony Xperia Z1 from China. It was delivered to Poland in just 11 days with free Economy shipping that was provided on this auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-Imak-.../321203585831?ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:C:GB:3160

Here is my review of the case:

[YOUTUBE]UAoQgSAIpN4[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Eagle3386:
Can you provide us (especially me ;)) with a manufacturer link/name or any other (further) details?

The bumper is just gorgeous and I'd _love_ to buy a blue one for my Z1!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Nillkin Fresh Thin Leather Cover Hard Case

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Krusell malmo flipcover

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Sony black rubber hard case cover

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Plain Transparent Frosted Soft Silicone TPU Gel Case Cover

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
PU Leather COVER CASE

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
SOLID WHITE TPU GEL CASE + LCD Gaurd

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Case Mate Tough Case

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
cute Stitch Hard Back case

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Color Skin Leather Wallet Case

Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
Ebay
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
metal bumper

Deleted the listing changed to z ultra
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] n4v1n:
has anyone found a case that is available in the US with relatively fast shipping? I need one like yesterday lol. Im so scared im gonna drop this thing on the pavement.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] maverick1103:
So does the Z1 support view finder cases or is this just an eBay fake...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jonmorris:
eBay fake. For one, with an LCD screen having that remain on would kill the battery very quickly!

(That said, I believe there are some apps that will let you do this if you really want on any Android phone)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] shem2409:
I have emailed multiple companies from Alibaba and most of them say that a worker did a mistake stating the case is for xperia Z1 as he meant it to be for Xperia Z Ultra. Apparently the metal bumpers for Z1 will be available after 10th October.

There is only one retailer on Alibaba that can sell you them as of this moment but you would have to place an order for at least 500 and they sell them at $5.83/piece. So I don't think that is a bargain considering all the taxes and import duties you would have to pay and then actually sell 500 cases :P .

---------- Post added at 12:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 PM ----------

Looks like case-mate is releasing one on 30 Sept

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Case-mate-T...UTF8&qid=1380191034&sr=1-2&keywords=xperia+z1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Eagle3386:
Awesome, thank you! :)

And yes, I won't buy 500 pieces. I'd like to buy only one.. ;)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jos_031:
why do they release case without opening for magnetic charger..
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Mi|enko:
This is the one that I bought for my Z (lucky I bought it on Amazon, so I could find the actual product link - lol).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BYOKM8Q/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] B1nny:
Today I got my S-Style case. Looks good and fits very good on the Z1.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PhoneNatic-...id=1380217624&sr=8-19&keywords=xperia+z1+case
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Eagle3386:
Thanks for link! :) Now, I'm hoping vor a variation for my Z1.. ;)