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[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
Yeah, while I do feel your disappointment, I think what they said is actually true especially for sharp displays I've seen so far (on XZ & Z1). Mine has no yellow tint but screen does have a slight creamy / yellowish hue when tilted. I've checked 5-6 other Z1 screens and all were the same. So, I guess that is what the screen is like here in India. Personally, I find the display amazing & highly accurate when it comes to colour rendering :good:! Almost equally good if not better than the movie mode on S4 (acclaimed to be most accurately calibrated mobile screen thus far). I'd any day pick this screen over, say, screen with better off axis whites but inaccurate colours (like jdc panel on my previous XZ).

However, if you don't like the screen then you should first try & find a Z1 screen with better whites than yours, photograph it, and demonstrate it to the service center guys. Maybe some newer batches may have different screens, so it would be wise to wait a while & then go in for a replacement. And you know, if everything else fails, there's always the accidental cover ;)!
[Xperia Z1 General] hoezay:
haha bang on. i think ( and fear ) you might be absolutely right.

I find the z1's warmer display actually easier on the eyes. coming from an s4 though , the yellow from tilting the phone is really worrying. Makes you think the screen is defective. I'm still hoping that's the case but it seems like everyone ( including the verge's review ) is aware of the xperia displays being like this.

Still , it's amazing using the phone in direct sunlight. I could see the screen clearly , and I had my shades on too !

I will wait and see what happens.Love this device, I would hate to have to give it up.
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
Got my xz1 today from Croma for 42k in hyd

My serial number is bh905 dont see any yellow tint

Njyn da phone right now

Will review in few days
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
you can share screen photos with us
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
here it is....
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
not a screnshot take photo with any camera
[Xperia Z1 General] anmolbedi:
I can second that... BH905 apparently doesn't have yellow tint. I have from same batch and can confirm that.
[Xperia Z1 General] hoezay:
Can we do this ?

1.Someone with a Z1 that DOES NOT have the yellow tint, take pictures with a camera. ( mention camera make, settings , ISO , shutter etc )

2.Then ALL the people with Z1's that have this yellow tint , take pictures with a camera ( use the same camera settings for pictures of the yellow Z1s )
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
see this video z1 have pure white screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drIF1wfNpLU
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
Sony Service Center not agreeing there is yellow hue tint on my Z1. They said they never heard this issue ever on any Xperia Phone.

Finally FILED A Complaint in Consumer Court :)
[Xperia Z1 General] shubh_007:
Lol. You could have tried going to another sony center if there was any other in your city. :p
[Xperia Z1 General] 301stSpartan:
I'm not from India, just been living here a few years. Never tried anything like this and I'm curious . Is this something that will actually make a difference? Do companies fear this? Or is this a process that gets so marred down in red tape that it won't actually get anywhere? Will it take more time and effort than it's worth or is it generally an effective tool for this type of thing?
[Xperia Z1 General] amankapoor4:
Good you are trying but this would be difficult to win this one, let us know how it goes.
[Xperia Z1 General] hoezay:
Posting this here as well. This picture from the Verge seems to have captured the problem. Look at the Z1 on the extreme left.
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
i recommend go to any other service centre or mail to sony

go to lajpat nagar service centre

court is very long way to replace your device
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
well there is only one center in my city, whenever i'll be going to to Delhi, i'll visit another Sony Service center...

P.S. Filing consumer complaint is SO EASY, so did that.
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
For all who have been thinking/gave it to Service center for replacement, I would like to suggest a thing:

We have 6 months of ADP and 1 year of warranty left, so please be patient. Running now and putting it into replacement doesn't solve the issue. There is a higher probability that the the one you may receive might also contain the same issue. Then you might end up replacing number of times.

Wait for about 3-4 months till the new batch comes up, as it did with Z, or you may even wait for 5-6 months if you can then go for a replacement. If you give them more time, more reps will come to know about the problem from Sony itself/somewhere and if you leave them for warranty, they won't hesitate to give you a replacement like they do now because in the mean time they would have known about the issue. So no problems there either. Think about this. We've got a lot of time. I know, it seems frustrating like we pay a premium for a premium device and if it ends up like this. Even I feel the same either and I have the creamy (not yellow :) ) version too. I'll only be exchanging only on the 6th month because even if they hesitate after 5 months, you have ADP :D. So 6th month would be my best bet. Still, it depends. It's your wish and decision - after all it's your device. This is my suggestion for my Indian mates.
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
yes definitely filing a consumer complaint in consumer court gonna hit their balls sure, it is a very effective method. They do fear this. Check here http://www.core.nic.in/
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
How to get insurance that is provided along with Z1?

Do we have to fill some form. Or do we need to register some where?

Also is music unlimited service available in india?

It is showing in India Site
[Xperia Z1 General] sidthegreatest:
I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but there is a listing on eBay which seems cheaper than anything else I could find.

http://goo.gl/f5CGik
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
well regarding ADP, they have technicians with them which will test the device if it was intentionally damaged or by accident, Sony customer care told that due to this ADP cover they will be checking the device fully if they found it intentionally damaged they won't replace the device and they will not disclose the reasons why it was not replaced.

So think twice before intentionally damaging your Z1.

I was thinking of dropping it from roof when 5 months are over :P:silly:
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Yup that's what I said. Like making it fall from somewhere. Note: What if Sony India is following this thread? :P

They should disclose the reason if not considering under ADP, also we have the right to ask them. What if they aren't feeling like replacing and just don't give us the reason? If made intentionally/accident, they should tell us. If not they should face the consequences. I don't feel like replacing mine, I just hope that a white balance setting in a future update would solve all this. I am also seriously considering porting my Z WB apk to Z1.

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Take a look:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45966798&postcount=295
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
yesterday i checked that may be we can't file RTI against them and it's not in their policy to disclose the reasons to us. Though we can file consumer complaint always no issues about that.

Service center told me they have never heard of yellow tint issue on any xperia phone. They don't know even about the XS case...those people at service center don't know anything really...

I replaced my XZ for "left corner near camera lens was unglued" as many users reported that but they said they have never heard of it and i must have dropped it that's why it happened...
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
The same here. I got the issue in my Z too and he told me the same reply. I guess they're robots programmed to a set of responses I think. The reps here are even worse. He told me that even though the back of my Z is open, water won't enter inside and he guaranteed that. I asked him to do a water test before me which he refrained from. They're utter waste, all they know is the term/phrase - "Emma" and "We need to do a software update".
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
yes i told them that i have done a fresh update on Z1 via SUS they said doing from EMMA is different and they must do it. They took 2 days to do that...and fraudulently closed my ticket id saying yellow issue is gone.

When i went their told me they had to close the jobs of spetember month so they did that, now they clicked the photos of my screen and sent them to some senior asking for approval for replacement and will tell me tomorrow.

28 Sept Phone bought at 5 PM

29 Sept complained about yellow hue issue, submitted phone.

1Oct did a software update and said nothing happened, closed my ticket and gave a fresh one.

will tell on 3 rd oct.

If approval comes, will be getting Z1 6-10 days later.

What ever happens, i have filed 2 complaints against Sony Mobile in consumer court yesterday whatever happens even if i get replacement i will write about this issue as much as i can everywhere...

I have already written about it here on my site http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/09/29/xperia-z1-yellow-hue-tint-issue-on-screen-display-solution/
[Xperia Z1 General] Tejstar:
Sorry as I'm not sure how it works in India, but if you weren't happy with it after a few days, could you not just return it for a full refund?

This is normally the case in Europe.
[Xperia Z1 General] goldsmit409:
Well thanks for that

Plz do tell about Sony Walkman unlimited music service anyone...
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
sony service centre replace my z1 due to yellow tint screen they compare my z1 other phone

tomorrow i got z1 replacement

go other service centre
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
i will try that sure once i get response from them tomorrow regarding approval of replacement or not.

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No Not here in India, we can't get refund....we can only get replacement unit in case needed otherwise no refund at any cost unless we file a case in Consumer Court against SONY
[Xperia Z1 General] Tejstar:
Well that sucks! :eek:
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Your EU law allows that isn't it? Because they favor consumers, they just love you. But here, Indian Government don't.

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Music/Video Unlimited isn't available yet in India mate! :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Tejstar:
To be fair, in the UK if you buy from retail not every place would offer refunds. However, there are strict laws if you buy anything online. This allows you to return the item for a full refund within 7 working days (this is going up to 14 days soon)!
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Very excited. This is gonna never happen in India anytime soon. We'd just have to run to the service center multiple times even to get a replacement. But at the same time, whilst buying a new device we can exchange/trade our old devices for cash and pay the balance amount. Even I traded both my Z and arc and paid the remaining for my Z1. We can't do there in UK I suppose. Can you?
[Xperia Z1 General] Tejstar:
Unfortunately not, retailers don't offer this.

You would have to sell your old phone through eBay, CEX or private classifieds first for the cash. It would be great if you could just do a part exchange! Oh well, can't have everything! ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Thought so. The best part is that you can trade mobile phone of any brand (For eg. You can trade in a Lumia 920 at a Sony Store and pay the balance for a new Xperia device) and is not limited to only Xperia's. The worst part - They quote way too low prices for your old devices. My new Xperia Z (replaced before 2 days) fetched just £233 even though it was a brand new one and was just 2 days old. :(
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
I think the yellow tint issue is blown out of proportion..i have absolutely no problem with the screen except the viewing angles which are obviously better than the z but fell short compqred to the competition i have no prblm with z1 its a fantastic phone

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Hey please can anybody check if the pinch to zoom gesture working fluently? I am struggling with the pinch to zoom gesture it is very jerky and even dosnt recognises the gesture
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
I can confirm the pinch to zoom problem. It has happened to me in many occasions, but I just ignored that.

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I wanted to do a fresh restore on my Z1, so I downloaded the .534 update via PCC, bundled it into an FTF via flashtool and restored the same but erased my Internal Storage as well. (The Chinese/Japanese lang of FT is a pain to use)

The device was working well as usual, and then suddenly the SoD occurred frequently when in calls. The screen refused to wake up in spite of button mashing. I never had this problem before. Did a Factory Reset again and it's now back to normal, period. Grrrrrr, Sonyyyyyyyyy!!!! One way or the other, you just mess up with every device on either software/hardware. When can we expect a perfect device from you? At-least in terms of hardware to a little extent.
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
:( :( could the pinch to zoom related to hardware or software??
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Certainly software, because I had the same issue in my arc until an update threw it out of the box :)
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
Thnk god..i thought i will have to replace the phone..;)..hope it comes soon..theres still no update for the z1 as 534 came out of the box..
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
.534 out of the box? Mine came with .518 and I received 2 updates namely .531 and .534!
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
yeah...i got .534 out of the box
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
Update for all :-

After talking to one of the Sony manager, I managed to get DOA for my Xperia Z1 Yellow Hue Tint Issue and now I will get a new one :)

coming till Monday...

If your handset is only 7 days old, get a DOA guys ASAP.

Do comment with the week in which your device was manufactured ? mine was of 37 Week means 9 Sept to 15 Sept. Look inside your SIM slot there is one plate inside it pull it out and check the week of manufacturer ?
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
what is the guarantee that replacement z1 will jot have the tint issue.? u could have waited for some 3-4 months so that sony could sort out there issues with the display the camera lens and ships the perfect units..by the way does the pinch to zoom gesture working flawlessly on your z1??
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
today is 6 day submitted my z1 to sony but service guys tell me to wait 1 more day

now i m tell to sony refund my money i dont want yellow tint in screen they dont have any ans :(
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
yes it is working flawlessly. Well atleast i'll be satisfied that i got a new set again, well if it will have issue then i will get it replaced again no issues in that. Right now it got under DOA next time will get it replaced under another category :P
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
i spend 40 k on phone now i wait for perfect what a joke
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
Mine doesnt work :( its very jerky some times and some times dosnt responds:(

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Cant u just wait for some more months and replace it? The yellow tint issue is not even noticable until u keep in ur mind that there is a yellow tint in my display..and u can alwys replace it if u wait for sometime sony can increase the quality of production..have patience and enjoy ur phone u get it back
[Xperia Z1 General] nikhil.vasda:
street view jittering

guys, im getting jitters when i use the gyroscope in street view in the maps app, can anyone confirm this? am i the only one? i thing its because the azimuthal readings from the sensor are wrong. can any1 here recreate my problem? thx.
[Xperia Z1 General] anmolbedi:
What is your firmware version?
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
A good read for you fellas:

http://anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
[Xperia Z1 General] Itachi007:
Alright, from what i've gathered so far from this thread and other online blogs, the devices starting with the serial number BH908 seems to be the safest among all with not a single reported incident of the yellow hue. I'm considering looking around for a piece with this serial. Any of you here with this serial facing the yellow hue issues or any other issues, kindly reply.
[Xperia Z1 General] nikhil.vasda:
.534, i guess its a hardware problem.... do you get the same jittering when u use street view?, fyi, im from india
[Xperia Z1 General] jagdesh:
Hi All

Just purchased the Z1 three days ago, havent had the time to post since was traveling.

Anyway my serial is BH905 and month of import is Sept 2013.

I dont see a yellow hue or yellow tint issue on my phone, below are some pictures... but that said, compared to my Z's screen the white is less brighter ....

These pic were taken from Xperia Z and on auto mode...

Regarding the pinch to zoom lag in browsers, I have tried it with chrome, firefox and stock like rooted browser... pinch to zoom works fine .. no lags...
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
use can share photo z and z1 together
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
I got a call from The Manager of Xperia Store today morning from where I bought my Z1. He asked me to come to the store today morning at 10.30. Was surprised and left for the store. There were some arrangements for a party going on. It was a party for all who bought their Z1/going to buy today it seems. Celebrated. Guys from Sony Mobile India organised it. Took pics, cut black forest cake and had a slice. Received a gift too (Box full of Chocolates from Singapore) and an Xperia Z1 book. :)

Let's come to the point. I never compared my Z1 with the demo ones when bought. Mine had a very slight yellow hue so thought of testing it today. Mine was the BH904 one. I didn't know bout the demo one. I set the brightness to 100 on both the devices. Optimized back-light was kept off. Auto brightness was off too. Set the theme to white one. The demo was very very yellowish compared to my BH904 one. Felt a bit comfortable. Lots of Z1 customers came to the party. So I picked a person at random and compared his display to that of mine. He haven't removed the matt paper (sticked by default) itself yet and didn't want to remove too. So checked with the sticker itself. His device was same as the demo one's - Way yellowish. Mine was whiter than the both. Next we moved to compare ourselves with Z Ultra. Z Ultra was whiter than my Z1 :( Mine looked a little creamy than Z Ultra.

Next, with the same settings - I played the demo video on the demo unit as well as with my Z1. The demo unit's brightness was way low compared to my Z1. My Z1's brightness was good and had punchier colors too.

Finally the last test. The videos played on my Z1 were very sharp and had jagged edges on characters when they moved fast. I would always encode videos in high bit rate and all were in 1080p so the videos were not to be blamed. In fact, the same videos played on my Z superbly. But in my Z1, they were some sort of noisy and it pains in the eye after watching it for some time. It's because of the X-Reality. When I turn it off, it's gone but the videos look very bad with no sort of enhancements. So I was forced to switch it on. I played the same set of videos on both my Z1 and the demo unit and it appeared the same on both devices. Very sharp and noisy/jagged a bit. Don't know why. I have even restored my device completely and still the problem persists. Compared to the yellow hue, this is what annoys me most and insists inside me to replace the unit. Does it appear to you guys?

Note: Sorry guys, because of the crowd I was not allowed to take any screenshots/photos to show you of the comparisons/tests I made. I deeply regret for that.
[Xperia Z1 General] AkkiJAIN:
Please beware before buying. I have suffered.

I have read some reviews on Xperia Z1.

I am very disappointed with these phones. The screens are easily breakable.

I broke my Z screen even after handling with care, but the service centre ppl wont repair it for free. I had to pay 20000 :(

There are some good ponits in Z1 as I read the on Mobile jury . They had listed it nicely-

Pros-

Camera

Design

UI

Cons-

Fragile Display

Poor Battery

Phone Gets Heated Up

Breakable Screen

Expensive

Please check some user reviews before buying. I hate my Xperia Z but have to bear with it because of the money I have put-in.
[Xperia Z1 General] ImAnurag:
Cons > Expensive yeah a bit but not for Indians I guess, aren't Note 3 and and LG G2 expensive ? If all are expensive then what should we buy...Nokia 1100 :p

Phone Gets heat up > every phone heats up with that specs, it can be improved with firmware updates.

Poor Battery > It's OK actually not poor, almost similar to XZ, didn't feel any difference.

Breakable Screen > almost every phone's screen is breakable, tell me which phone's not.

Only serious issue on Z1 till now is the "Display" , poor viewing angles ( not an issue for me ) and Yellow hue issue. Camera too an issue for me, noisy pics.
[Xperia Z1 General] jagdesh:
Seems like you have got a good Z1 ... if the yellow hue is not there which you have already compared, then it good isn't it?

Why are you insisting that you should change the phone...
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Yes you are correct but demo units have different panels. Our retail units have different ones. that is the problem. Comparing with a demo unit just gives us an idea and should not be subjective based on it. I thought of replacing not for the hue issue, but for the jagged video playback I have mentioned. The video is ultra sharp which is kinda pain in the eyes.
[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
I too feel the same for my Z1 display (batch BH904) compared to demo units. I have no issues with it, no yellow hue (head on), videos play crisp n fine. I think you might be used to the Bravia engine enhancement on the XZ, X-reality works in a different way. I, usually keep it turned off (same for mbe2 on XZ). However, I prefer the X-reality engine, it does tend to produce somewhat jagged edges (especially for body outline like face) but only when the subject is small. It works better if you zoom into the video (using MX player). I think that is the way it works currently. It would look better on a large screen though, not so good on a 5" screen.

Camera is amazing (manual mode) in my experience. Lot of room for improvement though, especially in the auto mode.

P.S - No pinch to zoom lag on chrome, dolphin or firefox browser (didn't try any other).
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
The sharp and jagged edges are bcoz of the.x-reality...it apply some very heavy sharpness to the videos

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I have the pinch to zoom prblm and its not only in the browser but everywhere..the touch input is normal so dnt know is it a hardware prblm or a software prblm
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
today i go service centre they gives me z1 new box i open i got same yellow tint in screen

now they gives to use xperia p for 3 days after they 3 z1 box :mad:
[Xperia Z1 General] anmolbedi:
Which serial number was it
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
i dont check it

xperia p also have yellow tint in screen lol
[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
U guys are really dnt know what to say..yellow tint yellow tint..u guys must be seeing everything in yellow tint lolzzz
[Xperia Z1 General] amey2606:
Exactly. I am actually enjoying my Z1 a lot.

And a little bit of yellow tint is actually pleasing to the eye.
[Xperia Z1 General] guddu2011:
+1
[Xperia Z1 General] DeathlessOne:
Yes it's nothing to be worried of actually :) It's rich and creamy :)