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[Galaxy Note 3 General] krooksrocks:
Handwriting Bug

Yesterday I visited a Samsung Cafe and played around with the demo mode and found out that on the messaging application the handwriting to Text is not working

This is the same issue which was reported earlier by few members on this thread and on XDA forum

Do you folks have any update on this? Did anyone try this feature and found out its not working?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DrVNM:
Samsung Frauds...!!

Did you know: Samsung is actually fooling all customers with their smartphone cafe note 3 phones...?

Next time you go to a smartphone cafe, check the model number of the note3 there. It would say N9005. But ask them for a phone to purchase, they would handover you a box of N9000.

These crap Koreans fool us with the faster snapdragon versions(N9005) in the store live demo and sell us the slightly slower exynos version(N9000).

Shame on you SAMSUNG...!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] deohrishikesh7:
Handwriting in messaging and conversion to text message is working at least on my phone. I am Able to write using spen It then recognised and converted in message.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] krooksrocks:
Yeap I noticed that on my first visit 6 days back and had checked with Samsung Cafe owners as well on this.

They said this is a demo piece without a sim assembly, and said it can't be used in India

So i told him that my user experience is different on this phone as compared to actual Indian version

Inspite of so much unanswered questions, I am going to buy the Note 3 today, I am traveling out of India and have waited enough and read enough to realize that European Region would not work in India even after I try all sorts of tricks, I don't want to root my phone as I am always on the move and now think that N9000 version should be fine if its not region locked.

I am not sure whether the handwriting to text feature not working is a deal breaker for me at this point, hoping Samsung would fix it with a patch?

have not had any Samsung product earlier, though my wife has had Note and Note 2, are they really good and responsive in fixing such issues?

Following positives and checks to be done based on all of your feedback while buying Note 3

1) Fast Device

2) Does not overheat that much as compared to S4

3) Good Battery life (improves after few cycles)

4) Better to get everything checked in Store (e.g. capacitance input, features, camera etc)

5) Don't have cover so would get a screen guard put on (I think only Note 2 size exists right now)

Any other thing guys ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
Samsung caught cheating again!

Just like s4 octa core version , this time samsung has cheated in benchmark test for the snapdragon quad core model of note 3 ,

The report says that Samsung appears to be artificially boosting the US Note 3′s benchmark scores with a special, high-power CPU mode that kicks in when the device runs a large number of popular benchmarking apps.

Cannot post its URL as I am a new user , do google to find out.

Let's hope it's not the same with indian octa core version

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As far as shop Alfa and croma are said ,, alfa does offer you a great pricing but if you would have any issue , they would directly

Tell you to go to the service centre , they won't help you in replacing immediately at all , had purchased from them and it's my

Personal experience.

Rather buy from someone who is an authorised dealer of samsung ,so you can get a replacement immediately if anything is wrong,

And they all provide mostly at same rates as Alfa
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mathen:
You got lucky or you will have to wait to see.Mine developed problems after some time only.Initially I had only random hanging issues with whatsapp only.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] deohrishikesh7:
We'll see after some time...

Also what is issue with whatsapp? Mine is working well and i am using modded plus version.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sachinaik:
After using Note3 for 7 days :

1. I noticed frequent hangs and micro stutters.

2. RAM fills up very easily and that causes the micro stutters i think.

3. Bit torrent is not working. It causes the phone to hang and then phone reboots.

4. Something wrong with keyboard.

For example i f I were to type 'example' it won't keep up and mangles the letters. Something like 'exampel' when it does this I can see the micro stutters. And can easily see this stutter is responsible for mangled words.

I really think RAM management is the ****tiest on this device.

Don't want to here about "don't worry about RAM" lectures as I can see when the ram availability drops the device startsbto stutter a lot.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] swrpgalaxy:
I'm using this magic phone from 5 days it's really awesome. I found everything working smooth except the handwriting conversion in key board. I feel it's worth buying it for 45k
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cellfrens:
IMPORTANT!

Samsung has just released an update for samsung keyboard on google play store and fixed many keyboard and handwriting recognition issues..:)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fatekills:
Its the same with Spice hotspot in bangalore.. i checked the version of demo piece . its N9005 !
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AeonXS:
In mumbai which are those stores ?

So is the handwriting recognition issue a s/w bug ? did the update fix it for everyone or is it a touchscreen related bug ? secondly not being able to use the s-pen with the capacitive keys is a fault with the particular model or again it's s/w related ?

I want to buy the phone, but can i have a list of bugs which are h/w related & s/w related ? which of these bugs should i take seriously & which of these bugs can be fixed with a s/w update by sammy
[Galaxy Note 3 General] krooksrocks:
Folks, I finally I got myself the Note 3 Octa Core version ,

Now - handwriting does not work but it seems a fix is there http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124060-having-trouble-with-the-handwriting-recognition-on-your-samsung-galaxy-note-3-here-s-how-to-fix-it

Ok.. now one thing important.. I haggled got the phone for 46K with screen guard. but required a lot of haggling..

Also the first unit I got had a bump on the amoled screen so got it changed though the bump was not visible initially it had to be tiltled at a eye level to view under sunlight. Handwriting did not work out of the box

In the second unit I got as replacement Handwriting worked out of the box, Then there was a samsung update I could see as I have 3G connectivity and the handwriting stopped,

Then I noticed that the phone stutters on playing songs (Perhaps the indexing service was running ?) Any way I restarted the phone and now it does not stutter

Need to understand how much should I charge on first charge cycle? 100 % and then let it discharge completely?

- Have put it on charger so yet to apply the handwriting fix , once I apply I would let you folks know how it works
[Galaxy Note 3 General] daniel9895:
has anyone from Mangalore bought it yet? if so at what price?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] krooksrocks:
handwriting Text conversion Bug- Fixed

Guys the bug has been fixed thanks to another user on XDA forums ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46098786&postcount=50

The phone has become really hot though
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
Would HMP update for note 3 exynos be worth?

It's all over the web that note 3 the exynos version would soon get a hmp update to use

All eight cores together , right now we all are aware that on heavy usage it tends to heat

Up a little though not as hot as s4 , just imagine if all eight cores would work together

During some intensive apps what would happen to the heat issue.

Seems apple a7 64 bit chip for iphone 5s has been made by samsung , don't understand

Why samsung on one hand is producing a7 chips for apple which seems to work flawlessly,

And on the other hand using exynos processor in its own phones which do have a lot of issues

That in the end need to be sorted out via software updates.....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
Three Guys i know of ( who bought Note 3, Octa Core ) r having severe issues -

- Stutters/freezing, Phone hangs .

- Phone overheats badly after playing graphic intensive games for 10 minutes or so .

- Overpriced & software/hardware looks to be raw .

- Poor battery life as compared to Note 2 .

All these guys migrated from Note 2 & really regretting the same .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] yogi7272:
Got my N3 today. Had Note2 for some 11+ months. Excellent device, magnificant screen.

I have only one issue. With stock video player, I am not able to play video files with 5.1 channel audio & few video files too arent playing at all. All these videos played fine with Note2 btw. Anybody facing such issue with their note3 ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kmysore:
Is the battery that bad? Can the other Note 3 users please provide feedback? I am planning to replace my Note 2 with a Note 3 this Saturday. Appreciate your thoughts on the battery backup. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
As per many actual users, battery is about 20 % poorer as compared to that of Note 2 . This may not be an issue for some, but the main issues r overheating & stutters/freezing .

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.............also heard that because of poor response & issues in the Exynos Note 3, Samsung would be shortly launching the Snapdragon version here . Launch could take place by Mid/Late October .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] eyan2011:
S-View Cover for 3299 !!!

The S-view cover for the Note 3 is priced at RS. 3299 (WOW.. REALLY, Samsung that much for a cheap plastic window fake leather :mad: ) and the Flip wallet is for RS.2499.

More Info : https://www.samsungindiaestore.com/product/Accessories/Mobile_-_Tablet_Accessories

It's not available on the E-store yet. But, these guys "shopsection" have it for the same price: http://www.shopsection.com/accessories/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-S-View-Cover-(Black)

Also, does anyone have the Flare/Light Unlock screen effect like on the S4. For the life of me, i can't seem to find that in settings-devices-lockscreen-unlock effect.

MKBHD has this effect for his Octa Core Variant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NSBB-kFDGQ ---> Note 3 Review.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] numerouknow:
can you pls share the source for this info?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
This is through a very Senior employee of Samsung India ( a school chum ). As per him, Snapdragon launch is inevitable, the dates could vary .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] eyan2011:
Well, i think my note 3 battery life (Auto Brightness and 3G On) is okay because i feel it's a lot similar to the note 2 battery life. I did have couple of issue with Google play services running on the background. But once i turned off the "Scanning always available" i don't have that issue anymore. In android 4.3 Google announced a new feature to improve location accuracy and for other purposes called "WIFI Always On" Google and other apps may scan for nearby networks, even when Wi-Fi is off. This feature is probably designed to save one’s battery life instead of wasting it, given that the only other way for one’s smartphone to discern one’s location is to drain the battery using GPS.

But i guess Samsung hasn't optimized it for the note 3 yet. A future update might fix this issue.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
India is the 3rd Largest market for Samsung smart phones & Samsung would like to continue that hold . So, i also feel that launch of Snapdragon could be coming up shortly .

..............also, i know some shop owners in Ghaffar Market ( Karol Bagh, Delhi ) & as per them Note 3 has seen one of the worst responses, sales wise in the recent history of Samsung .

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Official price drop of Note 3 - it is now for 48.4 K on the Samsung's website .

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............many Versions of Note 3 may get launched here ( 4 versions r being discussed ) to boost up sales in India, the big question is when ? Snapdragon may be launched before Diwali .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] krooksrocks:
People who are early adopters of Note 3- Octa Core are the ones who loose out if the Snapdragon variant gets launched in India soon after

Because 2 things would happen

A) Octa Core Price reduced to 40 K

B) Snapdragon price put around 50K so net-net early adopters are loosing out on this kind of market scheme of samsung

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on my first device, i was not able to play video, on my second replacement device (in samsung cafe) was able to play video and song

Also tried Asphalt 8, the phone heated up but not that much
[Galaxy Note 3 General] azeter:
guyz i need a case for my note 3 rite away dropped mine in the morning luckily zero damage me located in mumbai pls help .thnxx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
BTW I am from the Telecom industry and know a very senior person in Samsung India and he has confirmed there are no plans to introduce the Snapdragon version in the near future. They are 2 different models - Snapdragon Quad core for LTE and Exynos Octa core for 3G handsets.

And as you guys are going ballistic about which SOC is better here's a comparison:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...s-Snapdragon-800-versions-benchmarked_id47879
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
Asked a friend to get a 32 GB Snapdragon 800 from Singapore . Price is approx. 46000/- INR . I should have it by 12th October .

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The issue is with the overheating & stutters in Octa Core . Bench marks r for geeks, don't matter in real life .

.......btw, u may be right, but my sources tell me something entirely different .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
Unfortunately benchmarks and reviews on 'net sites are how most people judge phones and make their pre-purchase decisions. If we were to go by real life usage even the Note 1 or 2 would cater to our requirements perfectly. But that isn't how we (XDA members especially) think. :)

I heard the new editions of the Note 3 may have something to do with the display and size, for e.g. a LCD instead of AMOLED and sold at a lower price. No mention of a CPU/SOC change.

BTW, I've faced no issues with my 1 week old handset. I am getting the nearly same battery life as I did with the Note 2 and this will improve once the battery settles down and with future firmware updates. Guess we all know the battery needs a while to get it to optimum condition which generally happens after a few charge/discharge cycles.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
so seems we indians are stuck with an overheating octacore version , dont know how hot the phone will become,

if we really do get hmp update to use all eight cores at once !!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
Great to hear that your Note 3 is not giving trouble . 3 of my friends who shifted from Note 2 to 3 have had an horrendous experience & r regretting their decision . All of them have had issues of overheating, stutters & lower Battery life, as compared to Note 2 . They bought on the launch date ie.. 25th September, but they r still having issues with the battery & rest of the things .

.....btw, r u a gamer ? Games with intensive Graphics r causing big overheating issues in the Exynos . So, if u r not a Gamer, u may likely not experience overheating much .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
try alfa [irla] , heera panna

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first of all

1.most indian dealers would say they are authorised dealers, according to me only way to find out is to go to samsung india website

and see the list of dealers in mumbai from there

2.handwriting recognition is surely a software bug , just wait for update from samsung , timebeing if you pre set the date ,handwriting recog would start working back for the time being till samsung releases update, been already discussed in forum .

3. the only hardware issues faced by most of the people having note 3 exynos is the heating problem, all other problems can hopefully be sorted out via software updates

4.do remember that today one of the top 2 companies samsung and apple seem to have different strategies[thats what i think](in my opinion dont know if you would agree or not)

a)apple launches the product after a lot of research and development in hardware as well as software [they give demo pieces to their employees for a lot of time to search bugs and correct them.

b) on the other hand samsung puts a lot of features and top end hardware into their phones and leave the research and development to the end users like us , so we complain and the whole year it would be giving updates to rectify and solve them.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
No I don't game much. I don't believe my phone is a gaming machine, preferring to use my PC or a gaming console for that purpose.

That said, I used to face heating issues with my Note 2 when I used it for Viber/VOIP calls over 3G or Wi-Fi. No idea why.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cellfrens:
As this octa core version doesn't support 4k recording, many assumed that the octa core version is not as powerful as qualcomm..but its not true..they are almost equaly powerful..the quadrant scores are proof.. (i know, you will tell me samsung is cheating in quadrant score..but i read an article today where they revealed that every company does this and not only samsung)..and even if they are boosting the performance at maximum for both the devices and the that maximum result is almost same, then they are equally powerful..don't spread rumors of a qualcomm note 3 in india bcz its not gonna happen..

Moreover, you wont find any other device in the market with so much software features..lg doesnt have external sd and not reliable..so we dont have any choice..

Last but not the least, actually, right now, we don't have any game or app that will utilize all the power todays high end phones offer..the hardware is much ahead of the software..so, we r safe for at least 2 years..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
I've used computers for decades and let me tell you how things have gone as far as heat is concerned: My machines have gone from no heat sink to larger and larger heat sinks and fans, now at a stage where liquid cooling is mandatory. One of my PCs runs the Core i7 3970x and 2nd PC with the Core i7 3930K, both liquid cooled. I may need to liquid cool my graphics cards (GTX Titan) and motherboard south bridge/north bridge as well.

The point I am trying to make is if we need powerful phone CPUs and graphics there will be 2 things we need to accept - a slight increase in power consumption and/or larger batteries to offset those demands and heat generation caused by high density microelectronics, especially in hot tropical countries like India.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] benzmar:
I got mine yesterday from Sangeetha mobile for 47890. It comes for 32 GB.

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How to check whether it's snapdragon or exynos? I didn't find any heating issue. Mine is basic 32 GB version.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] [A|iENN]:
Tha'ts great u are getting it from SG will it work in india ? I been thinking about getting snapdragon version as octa version seems having many issues
[Galaxy Note 3 General] daniel9895:
From which city did you buy it?

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If the model number is N9000 it's octa if its N9005 its SD
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
Knox Counter

Guys,

I haven't seen any Knox counter when the phone is switched to Download mode. I only see the standard indicators that were present in the Note 2:

a) Product Name: SM-N900

b) Current Binary: Official

c) System Status: Official

Is this phone sold without that Knox counter that has plagued so many handsets in other countries? BTW, I have not installed Knox yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
What's your mobile model : note 3 n9005 is snapdragon quad core

Note 3 n900 or n9000 is exynos octacore version

Check out the back of your mobile box , processor written there
[Galaxy Note 3 General] HS™:
In india its sold with octa core and that does not have Binary count visible "hidden" and no way to reset also till now which is as per chainfire

Possibly we have but not able to see I have rooted and see no sign but it should be inside for sure just not visible like binary count

But in model like i9005 etc its visible and does change as we root etc to 0x1 etc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] benzmar:
I got from Chennai. I just checked my model number. Looks weird. It states SM 900. What model is it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] swrpgalaxy:
As per my knowledge it's 45k

Swaroop's Galaxy SM-N900
[Galaxy Note 3 General] HS™:
It has to be Octa core only N900 will be the model number
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pd1985:
Sm- 900 or sm n900 is the same exynos octa core version that's available for india
[Galaxy Note 3 General] benzmar:
Yes, it's exynos octacore version. I hope the ram is 3GB. So in India the base model comes with 32GB.

I had few other queries:

1. In app drawer, I don't see option to hide apps as it was there in note2. Anyways to hide app?

2. After a call, my network gets off. Gets activated after some time. Any fix?

3. How to remove some app from ongoing notification?

4. The bass is completely zero while hearing from its earphones? Any bug in my phone or in all? Will a good bass headphone fix this?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] daniel9895:
Note 3 available for 47900 in flipkart. So we could haggle for the device to around 44k in local shops... Flipkart
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
Well said & i totally agree. In our quest for higher Performance/slimmer/slicker mobiles, we need to compromise on certain things .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rl421403:
It's 46,800/- on Amazon.in

http://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B00F84QJUI/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uv.mrcool:
I think 4.4 update will bring it to the forefront in exynos version too.

Have u installed the knox app and its data ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Manojas:
It is available for 44K in Delhi .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] beanstalk_230:
Now it has started to look VFM :D 40-42k seems inevitable which imo is a decent price for the phone and hopefully by then at least most of the software niggles are taken care of
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mikil.mamtani:
44k where in delhi ?? Also what are the things to check before buying so that i do not have to keep running to the samsung service centre .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sharp-Razr:
I did a bit of reading around the net. Looks like the Knox counter is applicable to the SD CPU handsets especially those with a locked boot loader. Chainfire's observations are also based on SD CPU models. Exynos models (3G) in not available in countries that have LTE.

I may be wrong of course and this 'counter' will probably appear after I have installed and set up the included Knox software. I have held back so far.

My phone remains unrooted for this reason.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] HS™:
All SD Phone s4/ note 3 have Knox just not sure abt the N900 as yet but I dont think anything is to do with locked bootlader as its unlocked only in Samsung phones except for phones like at&t etc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] numerouknow:
Will Note3 Octa get HMP?

i read a few posts in this thread about a hmp patch by samsung for note 3 but then i found this...

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/exynos-5-octa-to-use-all-eight-cores-at-one-time/

just curious: if samsung can just release a patch and implement hmp then why this: "Eight-core Exynos chips with HMP will be ready for sale sometime after October.".