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[Xperia Z1 General] paperWastage:
sony manufacturer (display) and sony mobile is probably two separate entities... they probably don't communicate
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
Got my Xperia Z1 from Handtec UK today. The screen is BEAUTIFUL. Contrast and viewing angles are excellent.

Maybe I got lucky but no complaints here. I highly recommend this phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] gtrab:
gsmarena says it is one of the most readable screens in sunlight

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WOW the screen is really great

Why is some people complaining? Those pics are stunning
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881355/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-i1-Honami-review/

Z1 vs Note 3, note 3 completely fail to me.
[Xperia Z1 General] paperWastage:
depends on the revision of the LCD panel, and whether it's a final retail version

I've seen the Xperia Z display in the Sony store.... looking straight on, it's okay/good (no complaints, not as good though, as my oppo find 5 screen next to it)

When I look the Xperia Z from a slight angle, I can see the color shift slightly lighter/grayer... to me, that is a distraction and a negative (if other phones don't do that)
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
Wow the viewing angles on the note 3 are awful compared to the Z1

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[Xperia Z1 General] auchengyu:
they use VA screens. NOT TN. TN is Xperia Z.

ZU has IPS triluminos, while Z1 has VA Triluminos.

VA vs IPS: less viewing angles, but better contract and color accuracy compared with IPS.
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
WELL, seems to me TN
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
well you are 100% wrong - do you even have a Z1 ?
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
TN? Haha come on get real, even the Z had e-IPS

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[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IYcpQkEiYg thats mine do you have 1?

where do you even know how sub pixel arrangement for ips look at latest gsmarena rewiev you can see that from subpixel its TN
[Xperia Z1 General] gamerboy249:
The viewing angles seem pretty good in this video -

/watch?v=-wXphPciG9E (YouTube link)

(I'm a new user so XDA doesn't allow links for <10 posts)
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
This guy who started the thread is some fan... attacked screen quality of Z1, htc one and S4. all are crap for him... he started all the fuss...see all threads started by hm.. and i love the displays i checked. mine is still to come.. only issue on he prototype was black levels
[Xperia Z1 General] amirprog:
i think that sony needs to choose IPS screen for the Z1 successor. to me, IPS seem more impressive OVERALL (iphone 5s, G2) then what sony uses right now (TN?). most if not all other reviewers i hear also tend to favor IPS. sure, IPS is not perfect also, BUT colors are more accurate then amoled, viewing angles are better then whatever sony uses right now. it's seems the most balanced in natural colors to viewing angles ratio. in that way, they will also score higher in reviews = better promotions = better potential sales.
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
i do'nt viewing angles are necessary for screen, for all reviews the color of z1 is very accurate.
[Xperia Z1 General] amirprog:
i think that viewing angles are necessary for some and for others not. it's surely not good for a company to neglect those who care for viewing angles. and maybe you don't understand what i wrote: i don't mean that the Z1 screen is bad. i mean that IPS is the most balanced display and by that all users AND reviewers will be pleased because it's good in natural colors and it's good in viewing angles as opposed to the z1 screen - good in natural colors but bad in viewing angles or amoled - bad in natural colors and good in viewing angles. understood?

SONY, THINK BIG!
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
Yes, ips is best for all around, but for me at least is good screen, always can be better, waiting mine for compare. I have a gs4.
[Xperia Z1 General] amirprog:
you go and compare while i will wait for sony to learn that they should go for all around good screen to make people and reviewers shut up and not talk **** about their phone screens. IPS+trilluminos please.
[Xperia Z1 General] Option58:
Good tech type doesn't mean screen is good too. They can make cheap screens of that tech. They can build screens in many different ways, set voltages, materials or I don't know what to make that.

Example Xperia T and Xperia TX - same screen on paper (TFT), same 2012 line phones but their screens are different.

But Sony really Xperia SP has awful screen, really awful.

Now only thing we can do to see personally what is screen like on Z1.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jiyeon90:
TFT is not a screen type, it stands for thin-film transistor and its present in every single smartphone display.

By the looks of it it seems like the Z1 is using MVA displays, which have advantages and disadvantages vs IPS.

When it comes to TN displays, they cant even show 16 million colors which was the amount of colors that the Xperia Z could show, now with triluminos technology the Z1 is able to show even more colors than that.

It its very laughable that people like OP actually thought the Z1 had a TN display lol, they are only used on cheap/budget phones.

lol you ignorant kangaroo, LCD = IPS
[Xperia Z1 General] :
Please go to Wikipedia and find out MVA panel.

It is not TN panel.
[Xperia Z1 General] Option58:
My appologies I meant LCD.
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
IPS have disadvantages compared to AMVA panel in terms of contrast and color accuracy.. but viewing angle and gamma are accurate... and the tech make the color pop out.... this makes people to like IPS more... but if you see the screen headon nothing can beat Z1 display... if you are saying no.. then you are disagreeing with scientific fact... but viewing angle are important to certain degree..there isslight changes in gamma even with slight change in angle... people wont be using phone always headon... at least they will use with slight change in axis.. like for gaming or while lying down. etc..
[Xperia Z1 General] kayamemet:
Well, I own a X1 for a week now, And I have come cross lots of posts complaining about the screen.

Personally for me there is no problems with the viewing angles. I can easily watch youtube in my bed or use it on a table.

You can see the pictures in the attachment. While the angled ones colors are a little bit off, this is an extreme angle so it is ok imo.
[Xperia Z1 General] ruchirtrehan:
Your point is pretty much good, but let me tell you z1 doesn't have that bad viewing angles that you cannot even keep it on a table or on bed while watching videos, it pretty much has great viewing angles but only till it's level. idk who in the world uses his phone fully tilted and those who used to say xperia z viewing angle sucks cant even use it on keeping on a table was all true, but there's no such issues in the z1! I personally do not own a z1 yet my friend does but I am sure about getting it soon, my thought were on note III coz of d 3 GB RAM but out of 3 GB only 2.38 GB is user accessible so note III is now out of the way by any chance, only RAM had attracted me to the device, or else it's already thrashed away by z1 and many have reviewed on it, though it's person-person choice.
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
beyond 25 degrees it starts to become noticeable but only when you try to find it you will notice...around 10% gamma loss... at 45 degrees... you can expect 50% gamma loss..
[Xperia Z1 General] Rekoil:
Where are you reading this?
[Xperia Z1 General] andybites:
I received my Z1 on Friday, and have played with it all weekend.

Screen has terrible viewing angles and considering the PPI figures that are being thrown around i expected it to be much clearer, the colours seem a little weak, though i've been spoilt with an AMOLED screen for a while, so perhaps it's just me.

The Z1 simply refuses to charge from many chargers (all branded, HTC / Samsung / Nokia chargers) that have charged my Sammy and HTC phones with no issue - with the Sony charger provided there are no issues. Not the phone's fault maybe, but it does mean buying a few new chargers (as i refuse to lug around a spare charger everywhere i go)

Camera performance is very good in bright conditions but nothing more than decent in low light situations.

Bezel is enormous, i'd seen pictures - but in the flesh it is really off putting.

The performance is great though, whilst gaming it does get hot, but it just never struggles - everything you do / click on happens in an instant - from that point of view the phone is an absolute pleasure, there are a few other software bits that are nice, like being able to pair with a PS3 controller.

Build quality is also awesome, truly fantastic - I've not felt a phone feel as solid in many years, even the much fabled iPhone doesn't feel as solid.I am very concerned though that with that much glass, one drop and it would all be over for me!

So in summary, great phone, not so good screen, camera fantastic as long as you as in good picture taking conditions - and is a bit picky about where it charges from - also don't just order it, use one first - that bezel really is a killer for me!

I'm returning mine, as I think there will be other (better) S800 based phones out in the near future - but if you're happy with the screen quality, and the bezel I don't think there is any other phone (currently available in the UK) that can compete with it.

I'm looking forward to having a play with the LG G2 and Nexus 5 though!!
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
I've had my Z1 for 8 days and just to point some things out...

1. My Z1 charged even using my Nexus 7 charger so don't see any issues here.

2. Camera Performance is desired in low light however manual settings are perfect.. its just superior auto which has issues and .534 firmware seems to help quite a bit.

3. If your'e so worried about the glass, get a case... Even the Nexus is made from glass BTW

4. Screen has much to be desired and even I came from an S3 so found it a bit crap at first...You get used to it... The colours are not as bright and vibrant as AMOLED and that's expected... Viewing angles are **** but your supposed to use your phone head on anyways...

I suggest you try exchanging yours and giving it a shot again before going for the G2 and Nexus 5... I personally wouldn't get the G2 due to the lack of SD card and UK carriers offering it only in the 16GB version and LG has a much worse record than Sony when it comes to updating phones BTW.. Also as far the Nexus goes, you can't question its quality but I have a feeling that somewhere google will shortchange you... In the 4 it was with the camera and was also the case in the Galaxy Nexus... Also the issues with availability might happen again...

SO OVERALL WHAT I'M SAYING IS TO GIVE SONY ANOTHER SHOT! :)
[Xperia Z1 General] andybites:
1) I was very surprised with the charger issues - I thought maybe my bedroom charger (one that came with an HTC ONE) has just broken when i woke up in the morning and found my phone at 10% with a dialog saying the charger cannot charge the phone or some such stuff. So i tried my lounge charger (SGS3) and it did the same.. Perhaps a hardware issue on my phone, or a firmware thing where my version is extremely particular about the input - i know this could be tweaked on the SGS3.

2) I would never use a phone for a serious photo, but for average click and shoot it is great - just commenting that in low light it does suffer.

3) Case is a good call, and I would do that if I kept the phone - though it's a shame to have the nice looks and hide them away under a case!! Could have had a plastic sammy and did that ;)

4) I just found it very disappointing that Sony go on about the triluminous etc, and in reality it's really quite poor.

I've already filed my return request, and my network want it back on Wednesday. I'll go back to my old phone for a bit, and then in a month or so I may well come back to the Z1 if i don't see anything much better on the horizon, and if i can bear the thought of that bezel ;)

Also once it's been out a while I'd probably get it on a better deal anyway. haha

Thanks for the response!
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
you guys are really cracking me up, what I see on this thread are a whole pile of people making a contribution and they have never actually held a Z1 in their hand - how fcked up is that and also stupidity to the extreme

Those of you out there that have actually bought the Z1 and can prove it just leave this thread to the a..wipes that have no clue

It is so funny you get these people on this forum talking about the screen and the camera and what do they actually know

Give it a rest you wannabies - the Z1 is quite simply outstanding and I sold an S4 to buy it - Sony has thrown the Z1 out there and for those that understand what it is - comparing it to an S4 or HTC one is simply stupid - this phone pushes the boundaries and is unmatched on the market today - Sony has got in front with the Z1 and a few don't like it - forget about the obviously biased reviews and hold this thing in your hand and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, so all you Sony bashers out there you'd be better spending your time on something you can actually argue about, The XZ1 isn't it
[Xperia Z1 General] Rekoil:
It could be the phone as my Xperia Z had similar issues, though only if the battery had drained to below 20% when starting to charge, it was very bizarre.
[Xperia Z1 General] andybites:
Saw your post, and phones was at 40% so thought i'd try in the old charger,and weirdly enough it works - so thanks!

But very weird - anyone else with this issue on a z1?
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
stand on one leg when connecting the charger lol
[Xperia Z1 General] Why So Serious?:
I suspect it's to do with quick charge (or whatever the name is? fast charge?). Xperias with this feature (S, Z1, possibly others) charge at different rates depending on the battery percentage. I can't remember the exact percentage, but below 10-20% the battery will be charged slower, then above that it enters quick (fast) charge mode.

I don't know how the technology behind it works - perhaps it limits the current charging the battery - but I suspect that's what's causing compatibility issues below a certain percentage with other chargers that haven't been designed with this feature in mind.
[Xperia Z1 General] devmc:
I dont care what kind of screen it is, but I do care I pay for over 700 bucks and not getting a hign-end screen
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
same here
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
define high end screen?

screen used in sony bravia TV not high end enough?
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
Tell me more about high end screen.
[Xperia Z1 General] Exidouce:
I've had my c6903 for a couple days now......

The screen has an incredibly narrow viewing angle before the contrast changes. And it changes rather quickly. Straight on, and I mean dead on it looks great and is plenty bright. The color temp does need to be shifted up a couple hundred k. Looks yellow.

Battery is poor and the bezel is huge. It feels like a very high quality product. The hepatic feedback motor is poor. The faster I type the faster it spins. Very inconsistent l.
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
Screen quality dont be affect by angles, normal people look device in front only, bezel is really high, is 170 g device and battery life in first week normaly have problems with that.
[Xperia Z1 General] vansmuk:
1. Screen is damn good. Hold ur phone proper.

2. Battery is 3000mah. firmware. wait for it. .

3. U knew bezel was huge before u bought it. im guessing waterproof, camera, battery, cpu won. so no whine

4. type slower :)

P.S. always look on the bright side of life. . tudu. . tudu tudu tudu
[Xperia Z1 General] Exidouce:
I did know about the bezel. And it is huge but the phone also looks amazing and has great build quality. I turned the vibrate off and I'm going to give edge a try while.I'm at work since it cant come with me.

I really hope the firmware does the trick. and I'll try to look at the bright side. Lol
[Xperia Z1 General] Stea1thmode:
The size of the bezel works for me,maybe it was intententional. It kinda makes sense when you're holding the bezel when watching videos in landscape mode. Try it:)
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
than you dont hear the sound
[Xperia Z1 General] y2grae:
Had my z1 next to a s4 and the sony blew the samsung out of the water on everything
[Xperia Z1 General] Stea1thmode:
Try not to block the speaker with your index finger :)
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
You might need to put the Z1 in the water to cool it off :D
[Xperia Z1 General] alfred0725:
Why the blue screen amoled is better than Sony display? Did you compare the white color on S4/NOTE3 and Z/Z1?

Never get real white color on rubbish amoled display:crying::crying:

And also the Laggy touchwiz launcher, Samsung just selling garbage with premium price. That's what Korean always did.
[Xperia Z1 General] Juzman:
I love my XZ, viewing angles are fine, screen is clear and bright. Have already ordered the Z1 and should be arriving this week. Cannot wait!
[Xperia Z1 General] fgar82:
WOW

My brother bought HTC one a week ago, and today i got my Z1 and we put IRON MAN 3 on both phone, ran the movie and for my surprise i was blown away by the Z1 screen, when MARVEL show up in the beginning with red backround in htc it looked like dead red as if how to say it washed out !

Brightness also on HTC 1 is dark on the Z1 u can see more details on dark places .

I realy dont know how they make review for both and they crown HTC one screen !

i think there is so many people out there are lossing the chance of getting to know Z1 and how good it is.
[Xperia Z1 General] jaomi:
Perfekt example of a fan boy.

I have both phones and i Must say the S4 has a much, much better screen with no distorsion when you look from the side. Also the colors are more dull on the Z1. I wish i knew that when ordering but I was mislead by XDA-fanboys
[Xperia Z1 General] @ARC-S@:
I'm absolutely satisfied with my Xperia Z1's screen. I've compared it with my friend's S4 and the Z1 performs better under sunlight. But in indoors S4 is better. IMO couch potatos should get the S4, and the peeps who like going out should get the Z1. I'm an outdoor guy so I got the Z1 :p
[Xperia Z1 General] finoqq84:
You feel that its a minor update because you did not own a z1 yet. I was using the Z previously and had the same thinking as you. Trust me, it not just the Display that has improved. ITS THE CAMERA!. I am not saying about the 20mp. Its the quality of the pictures taken. The technology of the new camera. The software, to create an oversampled 8mp by using a 20mp sensor. The noise produced is.far lower. The exposure is far better. That is the software thatt ppl are trying to port to z, but failed! Its a diff class comparing Z & Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] demoniality:
while he may be a fanboy, you are no judge of a quality screen if you are tricked to believe that over-saturated colours on Samsung amoled displays is superior to the true colours on the 'dull' z1.
[Xperia Z1 General] danw_oz:
I do a lot of photography and have calibrated screens. The Samsung (can't comment on Samsungs latest screens) AMOLED has always has horrible colours compared to any phone I have previously owned . The Sony screens are one of the best in terms of colour reproduction, also the outside bright light readability on the Sony is the best I have used also.
[Xperia Z1 General] :
:good::good:

:good::good:

:good::good: - They have to saturate the crap out of it or else you will see all the flaw, the funny thing is that you see them anyway.

:good::good:

Haha, I love that thumbs up :). Such a perfect smilie.
[Xperia Z1 General] Rekoil:
Of course the colours are more dull on the Z1, they are the real intended RGB colours and not over-saturated as hell. In the end it is a matter of preference, but I personally prefer to see the intended colours and not the over-saturated unnatural colours Samsungs push out.
[Xperia Z1 General] hajiekhtr:
You are right.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neobomb:
Well ive searched high and low on here and all i can find is an AROMA variant ROM.

Is there any love out there for the +T version

Being as im from New Zealand and bought the TDCAMA3 variant Seems all i can do is ROOT my phone at the moment ANY help would be great guys im feeling alittle left out after i gave my i9000 to my partner and hard bricked my SGS2 (soon to be jtaged)

thanks in advance
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tys0n:
I'm pretty sure most of the mods work for i8190T as well, as long as you dont mess with your modem or efs.

Have you tried any of the roms, like CM10.1, AOKP?

Just make a nandroid in recovery before you ,and if it doesn't work just restore your backup.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neobomb:
Alot of the roms state there for the i8190 or the N or L variants or generally state not for N/ L/ T etc thanks for your response though
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AssToast:
Even though it stats its for i8190 or other, it works in the N & L variant, you'll lose NFC though if you are on the N variant, but you still keep your baseband from the L variant

So the roms will pretty much work as long you dont tamper with your efs/modem folders
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neobomb:
Have they made a way to back those up other then me finding and making copys of them elsewhere, that sgs2mini toolkit is even limited to what can be done with the i8190T
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tys0n:
EFS is most important to backup. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=37310230&postcount=21

"/modemfs" is mmcblk0p12. Use this to backup whole partition to external sd:

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p12 of=/extSdCard/modemfs.img

Baseband can be found in official firmware from sammobile.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lus7:
Did you have any luck? I also got the GT-I8190T model (from NZ too).

Is there an alternative to the magic rooter? I really don't have the money to buy the "auto update" feature to root the T model (it's like $30-40NZD).
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dolar4ik:
Simply install N version ROM. There is no technical difference between them except the device name.

Alot of L variant users uses 8190 version for daily use with no bugs :)
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linw:
So, who is going to go first??!!

I also am a kiwi with the TDCAMA3 on the XT network. I have two wifi tablets with CM ROMS but I am chary of phones with their frequ band requirements. Would like to start with rooting and cwm recovery, though.

Would also not like losing NFC just in case I find a use for it!
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Benzonat0r:
Look I8190T is just a model with 16GB of internal storage and NFC nothing else.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Neobomb:
Mines 8 gig apparently on XT network

Random fact my 8gig model GT-I8190T after I rooted the device with the Odin flashed recovery and installed superuser which allowed me to uninstall alot of the bloat ware and still retain it if needed via '' rom customiser '' app my phone doesn't lag out and freeze any more.

Also did I get ripped or what No external SD included I used a 16 gig from my old I9000