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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] efjay:
So that kills the lie that device manufacturers and operatiors have been spreading that 64Mb is not sufficient to run WM5. This is no surprise but just emphasises the point that these companies have NO interest in their customers and only want to get as much as they can out of us while ignoring our concerns or issues. Well done HTC and co.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
I too have a S100 and I too want to have WM5.0.

But, remember, they are a company. They are supposed to earn money. Do you work for free? They surelly don't.

You get what you pay for, a phone with WM2003SE, just like when you buy a laptop it will came with WindowsXP and they will not give you windows vista for free.

And you must also take in account that porting drivers to WM5.0 is time/man power consuming. It is better for them to make a new product and stick WM5 to it. If you want WM5 you buy the new model.

Of course, if they have a new magician with WM5.0, I think they could upgrade the older ones, because they would nnot have a cost associated with R&D just for older models. But even in that situation, I suppose Microsoft cashs a license for every copy of WM5 shipped on a phone, so, HTC would have to pay Microsoft for every copy of upgraded WM5.0 they gave.

WM5.0 just for us, well... forget about it. It would require driver development and testing. And they then need to support two operating systems, because people would start to ***** if their device fails with WM5.

HTC would be a great company if they provide us WM5. If they don't, well, I don't think they don't care about customers. They are just a normal company, not an outstanding one. That's all.

PS: i'm not related with HTC in any way. this is just my way of understanding corporate business.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Mvmajorem:
I don't know what the fuss is all about but what so good about this Magneto? I mean everyone is feeling they've lost out but I think the 2003SE version works great. Making the most of what we have through self hacking and innovation is what this forum stands for... this is what made this forum so great...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
WM2003SE IS a great OS. Just like Windows 98SE (except the occasional crashes). But we still have moved on to the newer technology of XP, right? With each new step up in OS, new possibilities are unveiled. Either you run the latest OS and get the option to run the latest programs taking advantage of that, or you don't. It's as simple as that.

I don't think anyone expects HTC to make WM5 run on the Magician, and then give it to us for free. They are here to make money. We all know that, considering how much most of us paid for the Magician. But why is the only option to buy new HARDWARE? If your P4 runs Windows XP just fine, will you find it ok to have to buy a new PC, just to be able to run Vista? Of course not.

We need more companies to take care of their current users base, by providing OS upgrades that you pay for! I don't know how much developement is needed to make all the drivers and so on, but personally I would be happy to pay $100 for WM5, since the hardware part of the Magician suits me quite nice for the moment. Then, in 6-12 months or so, when a fast, small qwerty equipped VGA PDA with built in wifi and GPS is made available, I will replace my device. But that is because I want better HARDware, not better SOFTware. Huge difference!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Jammer:
It is not necessarily a lie.

I remember when we upgraded the IPAQ 3800 to the WM2003 back then which was supposed to "need" more ROM than the IPAQs had.

Some WM components like Media Player or Terminal Services Client were not in the ROM, but on the CD as installable programs, so only the core OS was in ROM.

I figure that this is the case here too.

The WM5 core OS+apps might be installable in 64MB (some apps probably to install afterwards), but the complete feature set of WM5 might need 128MB.

HP will offer upgrades to WM5 for the IPAQ hx2000 series which has 64MB ROM and later for the hx4700 which already has 128MB.

So it was clear to me that 64MB ROM is not the reason for NOT upgrading a device.

The use of components that will get no WM5 driver might be a reason, for instance old Bluetooth or video chips or memory controller or whatever.....but the Magician is not old enough to have such "outdated" components I guess...

So this leads to the simple realization that HTC will not provide a Magician upgrade simply for marketing reasons - they want to sell their Wizard and Universal now....

And if the manifacturer does not support WM5, I doubt that OEMs like T-Mobile, O2, Vodafone, or even QTek will bother.

After all they want to sell the same new HTC devices....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] lisa1982:
I happen to work in a similar field.

This is probably a case of 98% marketing decision with 2% technical reasoning.

As you might recall - companies are alive to make their shareholders happy - and one of the greatest and most proven ways of getting your shareholders smiling is to sell a lot and make a huge profit. There is of course more to it like ... public brand awareness, customer satisfaction, environmental and social responsibility and other BS but... making huge profits that either flow to the SH as dividends or raises the price of the stock in the case of a publicly traded company is the 100% proven way to make the guys happy.

Now... guess how you make a big profit? you sell many many devices ... and this you achieve by diversifying your product line. This is really tough in a comodity market (cellphones are a comodity these days) - so you do your best and if WM5 is a big deal feature - why not make new devices that are marginally improved but one major improvement is WM5? I guess that's the force-majore behind most of these decisions. Nobody is trying to screw anybody - and I happen to have a Magician too so I too really want WM5 - but on the other hand such is life and such is the way that most businesses are operated. I guess we shouldn't expect too much.

Cheers, Lisa
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] efjay:
I fully agree that providing an upgrade to WM5 is up to the manufacturers/operators. The point i was trying to make was the amount of rom on the Magician was given as an excuse as to why it would not be given an upgrade. With the reply from the Microsoft live chat and also the announcement by HP that they will be producing the rx1950/1955 which only have 64MB rom we know this to be untrue. HTC, Imate and other operators have every right to decide that it is uneconomical to produce an upgrade for their older devices, (even though HP and Dell obviously think otherwise and are offering upgrades on some of their devices); I just dont see why they didnt just say so instead of trying to fool people.

WM2003SE is an ok os but some of the improvements in WM5 such as persistent storage, better battery life, better bluetooth and supposedly a more stable OS are features that would be welcome on our devices. No one can deny the current devices have serious problems with bluetooth, stability and of course battery life. Improvements in these areas would be welcomed and if there is a charge for the upgrade that is acceptable; no one is saying that they should just give it away. I actually have a Blue Angel device and im sure BA owners could tell you of their problems with bluetooth and wifi. Im pretty happy with my device apart from the occasional lockup but i would welcome an upgrade to WM5 rather than having to cough up and buy a new device. The current crop of WM5 devices are pretty underwhelming for me - the Uni is too big and wont be easy to use one-handed; the Wizard uses miniSD. So I wouldnt be buying a new device now anyway. Im just tired of companies just placing profit above all else, thats all
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] lisa1982:
Don't get me wrong efjay - I agree with you and I would be extremely happy if I can get my magician running wm5.

Anyway, it's now a waiting game and I guess we will find out if HTCs business model includes WM5 for the MA or the BA.

One more thing to consider is that these companies work on a project basis - which means that they allocate the best and the finest engineers for project X (i.e. - Blueangel or Magician) - once the project is over - then only a few engineers are left with the crap job of supporting the "older projects" and the best engineers are allocated to newer models - so if you take into consideration that HTC has let's say two current "new" models (universal, wizard) which I am pretty sure that by now the good engineers are no longer allocated for - instead they are probably allocated to the two next gen devices which must be in the pipeline if the company has the will to survive... so frankly thinking about it - the Blueangel and the Magician are "older generation" devices that are in a status of "they are working so don't touch..." - i.e. - no chance on earth that they plan to venture into anything major with these devices apart from necessary evil - like repairing super critical show stopping bugs or faults...

Sorry to paint such a dark picture - but this is corporate life. But... still one should always hope...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Mvmajorem:
True as it may sound, I'm still happy how things are going for me ofcourse there will a hundred more things I' like. Sometimes I wish HTC were as organized as Palm. But then again...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] efjay:
lisa1982, thats a very interesting insight into corporate operations. I wont hold my breath but will welcome it if it does.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kev51773:
Yeah, but I bet youre not using the same PC you had in 1998.

Personally I'd rather have a device that comfortably runs WM2003SE than one that struggles to run WM2005.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] newowhit:
So this has been a problem with every ROM 4.2 and up with my phone, basically all other galaxy note 2's and iphones will come in as a group thread, while any other phone (all galaxy 3's and 4's in my case) will come in as individual MMS messages. This doesn't happen on touchwiz ROMs and group message works perfectly, only problem is I'm in love with 4.3. I've searched far and wide and it seems as though I am the only person with this problem. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

Additional info:

ROM: 4.3 illusion rom

Kernel: 4.3 devil kernel

Like I said this has been a problem with all ROMs and kernels 4.2 and above.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshm.1219:
Group messaging only works correctly on SCH-I605VRAMC3 based touchwiz roms because it's the native base for our phone.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] newowhit:
Is anyone working on a fix? Or is that an unfixable problem..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshm.1219:
That's just reality, if you want correct group messaging you need to be on the native base.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DreamFX:
Just use GOSMS and you can setup group messaging for sms and mms how you like. I prefer to have all sms/mms group messages be sent individual.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] newowhit:
Go SMS is so slow and not very sleek, the stock messaging app is just too nice. I'll just live with it
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] kenwaweru:
Does anyone have an updated oxygen 2.3.2 -u8800, to share? Cant access it on oxygen.im .
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] rjspark89:
here you go,

http://sourceforge.net/projects/u8800oxygen/files/oxygen2.3.2-u8800.zip/download
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] kenwaweru:
This was my first rom to flash, i love it, I've been flashing other roms but i keep going back to oxygen. Bug free, good for every day use. Thanks dude.
[Huawei Ideos X5 U8800] rjspark89:
:).. also dont forget to thank the ROM creator in his thread!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoodooSix:
So... Like a fool, having successfully rooted my phone a couple of days ago on the I9505XXUBMGA firmware, I saw this appear in Kies when I plugged my phone into Kies this morning. I thought (yeah you know where this is heading) "Oooh shiny new update, must download".

So although I had root I didn't think it would be a problem I'd just re-root afterwards. And hey if it didn't work I'd just downgrade the firmware and repeat the original process.

Trouble is I now have a message saying "SuperSU has been forced to stop for an unauthorized attempt to access system in your device. It may be solved by the policy update service. It may be safe to delete an application obtained from an unauthorized route. Check now?". I then have the option to not show for 30 days and then Cancel, Update or OK. Trouble is now when I attempt to revert the firmware back to an earlier version.

So now when I go into Download mode I see:

ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: GT-I9505
CURRENT BINARY: Custom
SYSTEM STATUS: Custom
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1
CSB-CONFIG-LSB: 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

If I try and Odin a new (stock) firmware on I get a write error from Odin and on the I9505 I get the following below the above text:

START [224, 1440]
SW REV. CHECK FAIL : fused: 2, Binary : 1

Odin shows:

<ID:0/003> Added!!
<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..
<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..
<OSM> Please wait..
<OSM> I9505XXUBMGA_I9505OXXBMG3_I9505XXUBMGA_HOME.tar.md5 is valid.
<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..
<OSM> Leave CS..
<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..
<ID:0/003> File analysis..
<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..
<ID:0/003> Initialzation..
<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..
<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..
<ID:0/003> sbl2.mbn
<ID:0/003> NAND Write Start!!
<ID:0/003> sbl3.mbn
<ID:0/003> rpm.mbn
<ID:0/003> aboot.mbn
<ID:0/003>
<ID:0/003> Complete(Write) operation failed.
<ID:0/003> Added!!
<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

So, kind of stuck now. If the phone tries to restart I get the message: "Firmware upgrade encountered an issue. Please select recovery mode in Kies & try again.". For a while I couldn't get the phone to boot, and Kies doesn't see the phone, but oddly re-partitioning via Odin using the PIT file means the phone will boot. From there I still get the SuperSU message but can switch it off and get into recovery mode, does that mean there is a chance I can re-flash things via adb / fastboot?

Yep I'm an idiot for trying and being the Guinea pig, but as I don't know how to proceed if anyone wants to help out and see if we can get it back and un "Knoxed" (which I think might be the issue) I'm more than happy to help.

Limitations currently are that I am running Windows XP 32-bit via Parallels virtual machine. The unbricking steps seem to indicate needing a 64-bit machine? I could probably do that but would have to get hold of and install 64-bit Windows 7 as a VM.

In terms of Android hacking I'm a noob, but can follow instructions, and am comfortable with a Unix/Linux command line if that's any help to anyone who wants to take pity on me... :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Boolean = True:
OP, I'm in the same position as you, however I'm still stuck in download mode. Can you tell me EXACTLY what you did with Odin to manage to be able to boot the phone up again? I'd rather be able to use it un-rooted for now than to not use it at all!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoodooSix:
So, assuming you are stuck at the "there was a problem stage" you need to turn off the phone and get it into download mode (hold volume down, home + power - I guess you know this but just in case). I found this a bit fiddly I think because the phone is auto-rebooting, so try pressing power off and just holding the volume down and home buttons.

Then in Odin I used the PIT file listed in this thread. In the 'Re-partition' section and the boxes for Auto Reboot, Re-Partition, and F. Reset Time were all checked. I left all the other boxes empty (including the Files section). Click start and then after a while the phone reboots. It take a minute or two but if you see the Samsung logo it should boot.

Hope that helps... now to find a way around the MH1 firmware... oh and glad it wasn't just me that was daft enough to go and try it. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrubz:
No, not just you mate. I had a hell of a time last night. Flash pre-rooted MGG firmware via odin, which bootlooped. I couldn't flash MGA firmware again.

So I flashed Stock MGG which booted but the security measures implemented have stopped me from changing my font using ifont.

I have now flashed MH8 over the top and it's working better than MGG, but still can't use some apps due to the new security measures.

I was able to flash Omega V10 from TWRP and it booted fine, but no wifi and I'm unable to flash LTE modem to correct it.

Looks like I'm stuck unrooted on MH8 for the time being.

There are some instructions on this thread on how to root this firmware, they're a bit lengthy tho.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45283966
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoodooSix:
Bugger.

To add insult to injury it appears that WiFi is now no longer working either. :(

I'll look into the post you linked too, but I can't see how it will update that all, i.e. it says to use Odin which currently fails for me.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrubz:
Odin doesn't fail for me when flashing kernels or recoveries, just when I try and flash full firmware earlier than MGG which includes the bootloader.

Flash full MH8 firmware from samfirmware, I have no issues except for the security problems.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jd1639:
In the odin output, the "fused: 2" shows the update has blown a q-fuse. You won't be able to odin an earlier firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrubz:
No I know, but you can still flash recovery and modem etc. Is it failing at trying to flash older bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoodooSix:
Yes, I hadn't realised that flashing the same or newer would work (it does). But WiFi is still borked... any ideas?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoodooSix:
Tiny amount of progress, more out of hope I tried to flash a pre-rooted ROM - obviously this didn't work, but when I reflashed MH8 again I noticed the device made the start up sound (which it hadn't been) and WiFi is now working.

As a bonus if I go into Device Status it is now showing as Official, which is nice!

I think I'll leave it there for now, but will keep an eye out for progress, hopefully the bootloader will be "fixed" in due course.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shrubz:
Chainfire is working on a fix for CF-Root. So hopefully all will be good soon.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dave1977nj:
I'm running the latest stock firmware UCDMG2 4.1.2 (rooted). When I power down and or restart my phone it randomly restarts again when I get to my home screen. Any help would be appreciated. :confused:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Atlasstorm:
Updating through the app no longer works for do I have to load it through adb?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wcn:
Install OpenRecoveryScript via GooManager.

Or get it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45282861&postcount=1418

Install via TWRP then reboot recovery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spriteboost:
If your having the same problem as i did i just downloaded http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2049003 and updated it through there. when i tried goomanager it said that it updated it but when i went into twrp it was still at 2.0 something finally updated that way to 2.6.1.1 :D hope it helps if goomanager way doesn't work for you.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Atlasstorm:
thanks for the help i'll get on that when i have the time
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Atlasstorm:
thanks, flashed it and all is well
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjc123:
Did the trick.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rafithegreat:
Hi all,

Purchased my HTC One yesterday, all excited and stuff.. Loving the new Sense, apps and what not - especially coming from a 3-year old Desire.

Thing is, I miss root applications and S-OFF (though I can do without S-OFF at this particular moment in time).

Only question I have, having owning a One with HBOOT 1.54 - can I root the phone without unlocking the bootloader? Obviously, for warranty issues. This is due to the fact I can't S-OFF just yet (bloody HBOOT), and can't lock the bootloader again if I ever need to send it in for warranty reasons. So, is there any way around unlocking the bootloader at this moment in time?

Thanks :)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] herwegan:
hi

no, you'll have to unlock the bootloader to flash a custom recovery and then flash a superuser.zip ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
[Fascinate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bakenast:
Hi i have the fascinate i500 thats flashed to vzw pp, I noticed the service isint very good at all on it for some reason even though I updated the prl..

anyways im just wanting to use this for a tethering hotspot, is there any kernals, that I can flash to it that will improve performace/speed of this or does it matter, thanks
[Java for Android App Development] nikwen:
Nice job. :good:
[Java for Android App Development] Dr.Alexander_Breen:
Added library and source codes for Android 4.3.
[Java for Android App Development] spadival:
I an getting the following error in the "exported" version of the apk, but not in the debug compiled version.

I have added the following lines in proguard to make the warnings go away.

Any idea why this is happening?
[Java for Android App Development] Dr.Alexander_Breen:
I think that's because of wrong versioning. It looks like you somehow use the 4.2.2 version for 4.3 or the other way.
[Java for Android App Development] WisdomWolf:
So I take it this means that if I wanted to implement this in an application designed to run on API 14+ (including KitKat and beyond) I'll have to use the guide and do it manually. Am I correct?
[Java for Android App Development] kvnx1337:
At first, thank you for this awesome Lib!

It is working very well on 4.2.2 CM.

But on 4.4 (Nexus 7 2013) and 4.1.2 (S3 stock) I am not able to read the playback state. Any idea?

Edit: The next and previous button on 4.4 Nex and 4.1.2 s3 is working well. It is just the playback state..

Edit2: On your floating music widget it is not working, too :/

Edit3: setOnPlaybackStateChangeListener and setOnMetadataChangeListener seem not to work with 4.4

Thanks :)
[Java for Android App Development] Dr.Alexander_Breen:
Well, on KitKat there is a class called RemoteController, which has the same functionality, so you does not need to use this library on API 19+.

v18 library is designed to run only on API 18.

"Normal" version should run fine of API 14, 15, 16, 17.
[Java for Android App Development] kvnx1337:
Okay. Thanks for the reply.

I used now intentfilter with the ending "playstatechanged". With this action the music apps sends the extra "playing" ture/false.

I tested it with s3 music player and google play music on nexus 7. Worked fine. Just the huawei music player is not working.

Edit: Your apps just need an update right now to make them working with 4.3 / 4.4?

On 4.3 your apps should work but on samsung s3 with 4.3 it is not working well with the stock music player. Just as information :)

Anyway good library :)
[Java for Android App Development] alexandr1us:
KitKat

Anyone please give tutorial how does RemoteController works on kitkat :/
[Java for Android App Development] WisdomWolf:
What's wrong with creating a unified library that will work across API 14-18?
[Java for Android App Development] Dr.Alexander_Breen:
There's nothing wrong. It just was that I didn't have an idea how to unite them because of conflicting IRemoteControlDisplay.aidl file which has to be in the same package with same name, yet different for different versions. Now I've understood how to combine it, so I'm currently working on RemoteControllerCompat, which will bring unified library usage across all API beginning from ICS(V14).