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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdubli:
Final observations

Hello everybody...

Congratulations to all who hv tried/installed/upgraded to WM5.I am not that expert but I can surely post some final observations after mamich has released the Pack_VI.

1) Pls pls first of all remove the partition of storage and extended ROM

2) Use following after u hv just upgraded the ROM

-Camera cab file

-Install BA_FIX(289 kb) cab

- Install No sound fix cab

- Install Asakul Sim manager cab

Soft reset yr device

3) Following Games/Programmes are working very well

GAMES : PDA Mill snails,Flux challenge,Kasparov chess,Mini Aqua bike,Transcanada, Age of Empires, 3D Pool, Doom, Sky Force 1.21 etc etc

Programmes :

SPB Pocket PLus(Remove the Today plugin and disable the "Close Option")

Resco Expl 5.21

TCPMP,40th floore MP3 player, Art of positions,Handy Swithcer,Personal Vehicle Manager, XDA Shutdown, Transcreative Dictionary,Customer Manager, SMS Scheduler, Pocket Breeze, Phone Alarm 1.22, Agile MEssenger, Phat Pad, and many more.

I hope, this will help to resolve the problems faced by the people here.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pimbo:
Re: Final observations

Personally i think, when you're upgrading it is more usefull to shrink your extended rom, God knows what you can do on it in wm2005.

But legal wm2005 versions like jasjar still contain a extended rom.

For me i created a extended rom of 4mb, busy(trying) bringing the "2577" folder on it :roll:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] fusedwire:
Splash screen...

Hey Pimbo... did u manage to change the splash screen and dialer skins with ur new ext rom space??

Also, does anyone here know whether or not IIWPO runs on WM5??
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pimbo:
Re: Splash screen...

Dialerskin; still does not show the buttons, i think we have to rebuild a skin, with correct button mappings.

So really really bad, for a splashscreen you definitly have to rewrite the bootstrap code.

So it's out of the question for me, at the moment, i can't do that :cry:

Bebbo say'd somewhere on this forum:

So both things, still needs to be solved, it can take ages for they finally release wm2005 on the Angel :cry:

And mamaich said.

So someone hopefully can adapt settings of jasjar to wm2005 for the BlueAngel, that it will regonize my extended rom, all the data stored here, will not be deleted, it is a good place to keep the patches on, since i often change sd cards or forgot and left it at home. 8)

And RAMdisk, needs a patched rom, with free ram, for leaving the data on after a reset, so hopefully buzz can create a "rom" that can resolve this problem.

Already know 1 thing for sure; I will NEVER go back to wm2003, this one is so much BETTER :P Thanx you all who hacked us trough so far, and all the others who will hack us further into this thing :twisted:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] flippy:
Well if you never will go back to 2003 i dont understand. My phone now freeses at least once a day and i cant rely on it for a phone so i have to have a seperate phone now.

Is this just me or does everybody have problems with lockups? If its just me does anybody have any thoughts on what might be the problem. As it is now my device is useless to me :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] fusedwire:
Re: Splash screen...

Thanks for the info... guess we'll have to wait.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Bebbo:
I had problems with lockups on WM5 as well but re-installed and left out a number of applications which seemed to have worked.

I have started to re-install each app in turn and only have the following three left:

1) Mamaich's overclock util

2) Pocket Breeze

3) SPB Pocket Plus (All installed except the close button modification)

As I re-install each one I use the device for a day to test it out so should be able to tie it down soon (I feel that the overclocking is probably to blame and I am currently using XCPU Scalar instead). I will let you know if I discover which one caused the issue with mine.

By the way - did you notice what was running at the time of the lockups as mine seemed to always display the ActiveSync screen on my XDA even though it wasn't in use at the time?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] flippy:
no it just locks...nothing responds...and the only thing witch could be couseing it would be pzp...as thats the only app iv installed... but wrighting sms's is horrible too...it lags when u type..and not all caracters get displayed even thogh i know i pressed the key..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Bebbo:
I'm sure I read somewhere about problems with Pocket Outlook not having enough processor time for keyboard input handling ... I will have a search for that one as I think there might be a fix ....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] flippy:
sweet... hope u can help he with this one :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Bebbo:
Hmmm, found mention of it in this very topic thread (Around pages 5 to 7) but no replies or cures - It seems that when Pocket Outlook is running it is doing some processing in the background causing everything to slow down. I will look at changin the processing priority of the keyboard and see if this makes any difference ...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hjugo:
you have to install Upload/Blueangel/test/patched_2K5_no_check_for_signed_modules.rar
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pzenou:
ok thanks

that's what i do

and after i have to rexecute the fix's cab or no?

and what about intellidialer and caller id?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] icohen2005:
hi

can you help me whre i find the upload i never use it
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pzenou:
ftp/upload/blueangel/test
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Hehe. Time to reflash and reinstall my PPC 3rd time now :P

Thanks mamaich for the backlight fix!!! No more battery drainage...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] sarvesvara.dasa:
How to downgrade to PPC 2003 SE??
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdbueller:
Hi mamaich. Great work on this Rom,but I am as confused as a baby in a topless bar :? .....Could we maybe get a step by step guide to installing this Rom? I have read so much of the "use this,don't use this, use this fix",etc that I am not sure what to use or what order to use them in!

Thanks again for all you do........Later 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Bluetooth switches off in about 10 minutes or so...

Mamaich,

Do you have any ideas why bluetooth switches itself off after about 10 minutes when the device powers off? Any ideas how to get this fixed?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Re: Bluetooth switches off in about 10 minutes or so...

Oh, yes, bluetooth... Any chance to get a working broadcomm/widcomm BT stack instead of this stupid MS one which can't even send a file?...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
Mamaich, thanks for your fixes so far. Just wondered if you can create a brightness fix for the unpatched rom as well. Thanks

Edit: Also how about looking at reassigning the soft key buttons? Without access to the "ok" key the stylus is still needed on most screens.

Does anyone else have a problem with Activesync autostarting on the phone? Or trying to connect and forcing a GPRS connection? I've looked at the options and cant find anything to disable this.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Re: Bluetooth switches off in about 10 minutes or so...

Amugy szia KTamas :) :) Szerinted mekkora az esely h lesz mukodo widcomm/broadcomm stack az ms stack helyett, amikor 2000se-ben se volt ms bt stack broadcomm helyett ...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] TheGadgetGuy:
Mamaich,

Great work on improving the stability and usefulness of WM5 so far!

Have you (or anyone else) given any thoughts to the issue some BA models appear to have with NO SOUND?

I have been struggling with the issue, and I am sorry to say that I have not figured out a solution so far.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] icohen2005:
wm5

ok till now my major problem i cant dial from the pad no reaction in real time some other program function more or less

it look so googd that i feel sorry to go back to 1.40 ver but its seem that the bug is still ther

i also notice there is no backup system ?????????????

so i hope that after so long waitting the problem will solve in someway
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] TheGadgetGuy:
Icohen,

Here are some answers to your concerns...

There is no 'backup system', because it's built into WM5. It's called 'persistant storage'. ALL of your data is saved into what you used to call 'extended ROM', so the data remains even if you hard reset.

As for the dialer issue, here's the solution (for now). Open the phone program, Go to 'menu' then 'options'. Change the Keypad sound to 'OFF'. Then say 'OK'.

That should solve your problems.

Good luck to you. At least you have sound. Some of us (myself included) have NO sounds at all!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Re: Bluetooth switches off in about 10 minutes or so...

Én kipróbáltam a .3900at és az 1.0.6-át, semmi siker sőt, az 1.0.6 szépen hardresetbe döntötte az egész rendszert miután beraktam startupba...

English translation: I've tried both .3900 and 1.0.6 but nothing but insufficent driver memory... and when i put 1.0.6 into statup, it hanged up the whole system after softreset, i had to do a hard reset (with foirmatting storage and cleaning registry of course).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ramram:
Mamaich, Thank you, I just flashed the patched rom, brightness works like a charm and O/S speed superb overall after installing the cab file of course ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] dcetkovic:
Thanks Mamaich , it is much better now. I only need the BT shuting down fixed to have a perfect device. thanks again
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hal:
Using PHM registry -> changes lost

WM5 on BA, trying to change the registry with PHM registry, but changes are lost... Should I unlock something? Are the old tools still working?

Cheers,

Hal
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Re: Using PHM registry -> changes lost

Solution in the wiki...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] flippy:
Ok..thanx for helping me :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] flippy:
taking a look at my build and i can see that i dont have the same one as you i have 14343.0.0.0

But i upgraded via the wiki page and that was just a couple of days ago
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdbueller:
It must be just you....LOL I had to switch back to 2003 due to the b/t issue,but now I have the regular soft reset issues again. I tried the b/t "workaround" posted here, but that only works when you are connected to external power. If you are running on battery,it still shuts down when the screen powers down.

I will go back to WM5 as soon as those issues are ironed out as I NEVER had to do a reset with WM5 at all.

Later....... 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdbueller:
BTW, Are we getting any closer to a working b/t with WM5 yet?

Later........... 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] MotoBarSteward:
2005 problems

Please don't let this make you think I don't value maimek and Buz's efforts' cos I do!

Showstopper shortcomings for me!

MMS Nearly there, can't send for some reason but can receive.

PIE. Very Very Slow, even with WiFi.

Bluetooth. can't use Bluetooth dialup networking. Can create the connection but it then won't even open the bluetooth connection to do the GPRS dialup.

Connections general. After ActiveSync, PDA stays stuck in sync even after its un-plugged. Can't launch connections from title bar.

the real killer is the Bluetooth dialup problem. I have a 3G trial network (I work for Motorola) at my office and I like to use a 3G phone for internet access.

Any Ideas on how to fix the bluetooth issues. I guess it's down to the Bluettoth stack that MS provide.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Saisoku-R:
I downgraded to WM2003SE, and now I know how great WM5 was... :lol:

First call with 2003SE: can't hear the other person. Since I downgraded: min. 10 Softresets. That's great. But I suppose to wait till the BT issue is cleared and then I'll definitely swap back to WM5. And WM5 looks sooooooooooooooooooo nice unlike the WM2003SE :twisted:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Twiglet:
I have same problem but with active sync also. I stop the programes from running and a few minutes later they r running again, doesnt seem to slow me down though
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ilijamn:
can someone tell me how to downgrade to windows 2003se cause when I try file MaUpgradeUt_noID it simply fineshes too soon. I killed wcescomm process. I gave 5.0 a try but radio stack is bad i turned off by himself in roaming a lot of times and it froze many times and reacts slowly even after overcloocking. And I want Atlantis redux working. I think i am gonna wait for the fixed win 5.0 and maybe give it onother try in far far future :twisted:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdbueller:
Run the MaUprade and install your 2003 rom of choice>use repart to change your ext rom size.

Put 16384kb in the box and reformat

>reflash with your 2003 rom again. That will give you an ext rom of 15.9mb again, which is what it was before WM5.

I tried other suggested methods of doing this, but the one that worked right is what I described above.

Later........... 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] MotoBarSteward:
Downgade without repartitioning

Thought I try and not repartition the extended rom after downgrading from 2005. Result: - 60 meg of 'storage' 128k of extended rom. I'm quite happy with this so I'll keep it this way for a while
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ilijamn:
Yes thank you but can you tell me how to do the first part. Cause it wont downgrade I mean it wont even start a process of downgrading in %. I kill the active sinc put it in cradle it shows usb and then it "finishes" like in 3 sec but nothing is done. Please help
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Saisoku-R:
Aight guys, I'm back with WM5 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Everything works fine with WM2003SE, ok - it looks ugly. But since 3 hrs my XDAIII Softresets every 5-10min itself. I haven't had this problem before, so I decided to swap back to WM5... and it looks soooooooooooo nice :lol:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdubli:
Ok Ok

Hello Guys, and a big salute to mamaich and Buzz,

So many problems and then solutions or attempts to make things better..In these, I just want to ask, can we have Dual Booting :wink: I hope you got... WM5 and WMSE one can choose when the PPC boots, as, we hv it on our PCs...

Just a Wild thought
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ilijamn:
I have finally returned to 2003se. Everything is working now. Thanks god.

The only thing i miss from WM5 is the looks.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tps:
any idea for O2 XDA IIs after upgrade to windows mobile 2005 camera problem ??? i try to install camera2K5 now if press camera button show this error --> ( Failed to initialize camera. Please reset the hardware. 36001:100:2 ..... :cry:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pimbo:
Did you also got mms installed?

i got the same error, also tried install mms first, than buttonfix reset, camera2K5, reset again. than it worked.

I think the install list is as follows:

* ba_wm5_fix_v1

* mms, has to be installed and resetted before installing the camera

* Buttons_Fix_v2

* Camera2K5_v1

Also tried to install the camera again?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tps:
but i try to install ba_wm5_fixx_v1 after my O2 XDA IIs become blacklight problem ........ :cry: btw , i will try ur solution , thanks for ur reply !! :wink:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] vporcino:
Problem to install patch 2

Mamaich i've installed the first release and work fine but i try to install patch n°2 and my phone go down i have to send to assistence and hope that they change me the phone can you tell me what happens???

I've foollowed your instrunction and at 44% of flashing the phone DIE!!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mamaich:
Re: Problem to install patch 2

this may be a hardware problem. Or if your device just hanged during upgrade - it could be recovered by removing main battery, draining the backup and entering bootloader.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tps:
Problem still same ...... :cry: any 1 help ???
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mark1968:
MMS

Has anyone got a workaround or solution for MMS messages and OrangeUK.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pimbo:
Bluetooth Possible solved

Hy all,

It look likes the Bluetooth disconnect issue is solved, Buzz released a patch for this.

This is still a test version, but it has to work on all wm2005 devices.

On the Himalaya it's already working according to Mamaich.

You can download it from here.

Here

A bit later edited:

On the Himalaya it's working was confirmed by buzz, i made a little mistake sorry :oops:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] magpie2000k:
fair play again

to Buzz and Mamaich..

works a dream on XDAiis so far will report if have any problems

cheers again guys
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Mastiff:
I pray that he can do the same for WLAN!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
I have installed the bt patch and it didnt work for me. magpie2000k is it working for you? Maybe i need to hard reset cos i couldnt get Opera to work which others seem to have working.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] magpie2000k:
efjay it works fine for me what is Opra

then I will try that too.. put it here if you can or to me in pm
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] magpie2000k:
Efjay

JUST Had a thought

did you install the cab runn it then power off the device for a min or so and then power on then soft rest..

I dont know if this is always required but it was an issue raised and answered on WIKI on installation of another cab. I beleive Buzz or Mamaich stated that unless you do that it doesnt write to the registry.

(or some such technical stuff)

I am no genious but that is what I did and so far no hassles
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
yes i did that, i can see the registry entry it creates ok but it still turns off.

Here is a thread on Opera http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=28579
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] kalleh:
@Saisoku-R

thanks, now the download page is up again to get the old Firmwares and I did succeed with a downgrade.

Just to make sure I upgraded again following the instructions but with the same result: Everything is really slow and when using the Phone App the unit freezes completely. So I leave it at 1.40

Regards,

KalleH
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] magpie2000k:
bollox

Mines doing it now.

didnt at first but now if I press the power button it turns it off

let me elloborate

when I first installed I could indeed power off then on.. and it maintained .

but after soft reset it is turned off which I could handle. but now if power of and on it is unticked again..

sorry for the confusion.. I spoke too soon I guess
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] magpie2000k:
Opera

I can get it to run and load a page.. butunless I am missing something I can click on any links and navigate a site....

Is that the same problem efjay
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] pimbo:
Bluetooth Possible solved

People,

As far that i read about it: the patch for bluetooh was ment for the suspension problem:

Sorry for some false hope :oops:

Here is the File info http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=68&func=fileinfo&id=110
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
Re: Opera

My problem is i can install it but it wont run at all. After install and restart starting Opera doesnt even load the app, just nothing happens. I think i may try a hard reset later tonight, maybe something has messed up my registry. Thanks for checking.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
Update on the bluetooth patch

Using a SE HBH-200 im getting two results with the bt patch. If i turn on bluetooth and just turn on the headset and make a connection, after powering off for a while the connection is lost and the connection icon in the headset display is not shown.

But if i connect the headset and also activate voicedial by holding the dial button on the headset the connection is kept and i am able to connect and initiate VC. After a while though my headset will not send the voice dial command anymore but this may just be an issue with how my headset works.

So it seems the patch will work and keep bt alive if there is a connection btw the headset and the BA, at least in my case. Can anyone else check this?

edit: it seems my "workaround" doesnt work, connection still being lost even after forcing a connection via voicedial. But getting closer i think...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
Browser Performance cab

There is cab file in the German MDA Pro extended rom called Uni_BrowserPerformance. Ive loaded it and it seems to have a marginally positive effect. Mamaich or anyone else who knows how, can you check this cab and see what it does? So far it hasnt caused any problems on my BA.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Bebbo:
It sets the following reg keys for Internet Explorer :

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\MaxRequestThreads = 5

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\MaxConnectionsPerServer = 5

The first setting does not exist in the registry at all and the second is currently set to 4. This will possibly speed up page loading as it allows more simultaneous downloads for the same web page from the same server (This is server dependent however as some servers will limit the max simultaneous downloads per client)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] efjay:
thanks for the info Bebbo
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] TechnoHippie:
Anyone have WM5 on the SprintPCS version???

Is there anyone that has tried to get this WM5 working on one of the SprintPCS (CDMA) phone?

I'd really like to try...I've upgraded the ROM before, but not to WM5.

Anyone have any advise, suggestions?

Thanks!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] kcchen:
BT fix...

... worked well until I started typing. Honestly.

My SX66 stayed connected to my headset for about 30 - 40 minutes. Should help with using BT during calls.

Oh well... definitely a step in the right direction.

Keep up the great work!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] kcchen:
PZP keeps BT up...

So I decided to load the latest PocketZenPhone Beta on my SX66... and it seems to be keeping my BT connection up even with the PDA off/suspended. I haven't been staring at my phone for the last hour, but the blue LED has been flashing on my PDA since I've installed the profile switching software.