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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] PsycloneTW:
For students or people mostly at work?! I'm sorry but that's just a ludicrous statement. While I use my Note 10.1 for productivity apps I also use it for consuming media, youtube, HD movies, gaming, etc. It's a multifunction device, to pigeon hole it into a single usage category is frivolous. With that in mind, nothing matches having front facing stereo speakers. I'm actually quite impressed with the sound capabilities of this tablet. It's much better than on my Note 2 where the speaker is on the back and directed away from the screen. I do have headphones but don't want to have to locate/dig them out any time I want to use it for media consumption.

At least the 2014 version has the speakers on the side which may not be so bad, at least they're not on the back. I'll reserve judgement until I can play with it but I'm skeptical.

I know right? IPad?! puh leeze.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] iRoNX:
Does anyone know if the Snapdragon 800powered devices will be supported by cyanogenmod ?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jinda628:
I think it depends on user's mian purpose. If you use it mostly on multimedia consumption then speakers may really be a deal breaker. I'm planning to use it as a mobile device for browsing and productivity. But main reason I am buying this is for the S-pen and new screen.

I guess we cant really have everything. Some tablets may have front speakers but they dont have digitizer/spen or the other way around.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] i9100g user:
It is actually the opposite,5420 would be as fast as the S800 if not faster.(it should be faster than s800,even the msm8974ab in note 3)

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There is no use of comparing GFLOPS of 2 different architectures .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] CLARiiON:
I don't see any benchmarks for Note 10.1 or any Exynos device from IFA. Strange! Did none of the journalists bother to run benchmarks??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dpwhitty11:
Benchmarks don't really mean anything anymore.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Trim control

So if this new device has Android 4.3 it should then have trim control correct, or is that something that Samsung could bock or eliminate?

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Nakel:
Samsung saved me a bunch of money with the new Note 10.1... It's an easy choice to keep my current Note 10.1 and hope they do better next year.

No front facing speakers: FAIL.

Higher res screen: While not a fail, I'd much rather have longer battery life and less lag when scrolling through image heavy PDFs.

No keyboard dock possible: FAIL.

No NFC: FAIL

Physical home, menu and back buttons: FAIL. Holding the thing in portrait orientation while working with PDFs will be annoying at the very least.

I do like the placement of the S-pen. The new CPU looks great, but having to drive the high res screen means that for my purposes it will be no faster-and maybe slower-than the current Note 10.1. I wonder how durable the USB charging port will be?

I'm a huge fan of the current Note 10.1 and the "2014" model gives me no reason to upgrade at all. When they can drive a high res screen and still improve performance, battery life and weight I'll upgrade. Oh, and don't forget the front facing speakers. Without those, I'll be looking very carefully at the competition.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dfran1:
I have to agree with you except maybe the home button , it may not be the best thing but I dont think its a deal breaker , but the speakers are a great step in reverse , what where they thinking !

I think next years will be much better than this (more power to drive that display at the least) , but this year's should pull in some ios fans for shure , how many the world will never know, I hope this was not the intension, they will start to loose us. On the nfc, I don't get it , they advertise the crap out of it and now abondon it, on these tablets what gives?

I was also disappointed in the note 3 , no front speakers also , they come out with a great note one 10.1 , then they release lousy tabs , and now remove the best feature on any device , front speakers!

I just don't get it, maybe I'm not suposed to and just look elsewhere !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Diogenes5:
Too much hyperbole. Sucks we lost front-facing speakers. I don't know anyone that uses NFC so whatever. You can still use any bluetooth dock. Who cares about this feature? And if you owned a note 10.1 before why would you care?

The physical buttons are really really stupid I agree but hopefully the modding scene fixes that. You also have no idea what battery life will be so you're pulling stuff out of your ass.

I too work mainly with PDF's as a student. I am getting this thing right away. Ineed the extra dpi for reading text and doing problems in multiwindow. So speak for yourself.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] icebergisonfire:
I come from the Galaxy Note 1 neighborhood. I'm in love with this thing. I just need to know where to get a jet black 64gb version and I'm good.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] conan1600:
- Speaker placement is strange and imho a loss, but better the side than the back.

- Higher res screen is much needed and definitely a win. With the SD800 power consumption specs and low power high res screen and lighter but more powerful battery you should actually gain battery time.

- No Transformer like dock is a shame but there are plenty of keyboards for a tab and most likely a samsung approved dock as well just like the first model

- It may be to early to call NFC yet as the tech bloggers dont always do the best at reporting features but if it does not have it im sad as NFC has potential to solve some annoying bluetooth problems.

- Physical home button and soft back and recent buttons can be looked at as a win as it provides more screen room.

- The new SOC has enough power to run the new higher resolution screen and still give a tremendous boost over the previous version

- The new 2014 model provides close to double the power of the previous version and gives options that we have never seen before. Overall imho the tablet is pure success with a few bad ideas. If this tablet doesn't do it for you...nothing coming this year will.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Tintinnuntius:
I will only consider updating my old Note 10.1 if the 2014 version comes with a higher resolution digitizer. Does anyone know if that's the case?

Even then, I'll wait until we get some real life reports on lag and battery life.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Nakel:
Yep, and a big reason I'll stick with the current Note 10.1

I do.

No, I can't. Bluetooth doesn't work well in my work environment. (Interference.) Lots of people care about this. I have a physical keyboard dock for my Note and it works very well, except for not folding. A folding dock with extra battery would have been very nice. It would have given me a reason to upgrade.

No, regardless of what it is, it would be better with a lower res screen. That's a simple fact. I'd prefer longer battery life, but I get that the current market demands high res screens.

I am, in fact, speaking for myself. I realize the high res screen will be a big plus for a lot of people, that's why I didn't call it a fail. it's great that your vision is good enough that the higher res is useful to you. For those of us that need reading glasses, it's pretty much no better than the current Note. I got rid of our Ipad3 and got an extra Note 10.1 for several reasons. One of them being that neither my wife or myself saw any benefit to the higher res of the ipad compared to my Note 10.1 when compared side by side. Now, if Sammy has pulled off 12 hours battery life and faster performance even with this screen, then everyone wins. That remains to be seen. I kind of doubt it though, but I could easily be wrong. No, my Note doesn't get 12 hours battery life, more like around 8 - 9 with my use. Better battery life would be a reason to upgrade.

I'm sure a lot of folks will like the new Note. That's great. For me, I see absolutely no reason to upgrade and several reasons not to. I use the Note in portrait position--holding it by the left side--often, so the physical buttons would be a nuisance. I really, really like the front facing speakers. I really like having a physical connection to a keyboard dock.

I get that the screen is an upgrade for many people. But why take several steps backwards in other areas? Oh well, at least I save some bucks! :D

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Not for people holding the Note by the left side in portrait position while simultaneously doing other tasks. (Using the note as a reference for those tasks.) WAY too much chance of inadvertent button actuation.

Agreed on both counts. Fortunately, I'm pretty darn happy with my current Note. I'll save the $1000 for next year. Yep, I figure the pricing will be around $1000--for two. What, you think I can upgrade my tablet and not my wife's? :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dfran1:
I agree , I cant see much difference between hi res also, in fact a 12.2inch note would have won me over !

Why if in fact it is true, why are companies copying ios ! I love the current on screen buttons that rotate with the device , my first moto zoom tab drew me into android tablets cause of the much more usefull setup and the note 10.1 -1 is great to follow that, it is sad if companies follow this route. I have a note 2 phone , I don't need a phone tablet but I need a tablet that stands out like the note 10.1-1

The more I read on this tablet the worse it gets.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] lord69:
For those who complain about the lack of front speakers, can you name any new high res tablet that's got them?

Look at the new asus transformer. It's only got 1 mono speaker at the back. And it's the closest competitor of note 10.1.

Can new exynos playback 4k content? I know in note 3 it can't record 4k videos but what about its playback?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] CLARiiON:
I like it a lot so far.

I wasn't that impressed with older version of 10.1. This is clearly a much better direction. Easy decision for me - there is no contest between these 2 models.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dmarco:
I must say that the new Note 10.1 is pretty impressive indeed, I am, however, a little baffled why they would remove the infrared feature from the 2014 edition. :what:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] legendary1022:
It has a infrared feature. You can see it at the top on the device. Look here at this YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hfp-IAyCto&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dmarco:
Oh wow, thanks for that video link. It confirmed that it will INDEED have an infrared blaster, which is unusual because I have just read some specs online about an hour ago that stated that they wouldn't have it.

I'm so excited about the 2nd generation Note 10.1

Now I just have to all my 1st generation Note 10.1 and save up for the new one :D

Oh man, I feel like a little kid on Christmas Eve again. LoL
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Angus66:
Nice to see Samsung step up their game with the Note 10.1 2014 - especially after all the just average tablets they've produced over the last few years. I wonder how the Note 10.1 2014 will compare to the Asus TF701T and the Nexus 10 sequel? Also wondering what the new Note 10.1's price will be...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
Anyone know if this has smart cover functionality?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rcatron:
Eh, I have watched video hands on reviews and looked at countless photos and I don't see where there is a notification bar present 100% of the time on the 2014
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Diogenes5:
Note 10.1 was a good tablet but was bipolar. It had a great SOC, great s-pen functionality, 2gb of ram was amazing with multiwindow, etc. But it also had an already very dated screen resolution for the price and was made of the same plastic nonsense as their phones for a much larger form factor. Some reviews were also unduly harsh on it (see TheVerge). I had the TF700 and it got great reviews but had a terrible SD card that was had the most abysmal random read/write speeds in recent memory. A tablet is more than the sum of its parts.

The TF701T will likely be $100 cheaper without dock or cost the same and come with keyboard dock (Which has an extra battery inside). It will probably have a better quality screen I feel as the TF700 had better contrast and color accuracy than the Galaxy Note 10.1 and Samsung's LCD screen tech seems to always be trailing. The TF701T will probably have the same IPS+ mode which is great for outside viewing. Overall, I'd bet they will be very similar. It will be the S-pen versus the convenience of a keyboard dock with extra battery and USB 3.0.

Last year, I picked the dock, but I've become addicted to the S-pen. If only they would merge the two.

As for the Nexus 10, I'd expect it to run the same innards as the new Nexus 7 and the same 2560x1600 screen as last year and call it a day to keep costs down. Considering that the N10 sold badly versus the Nexus 7, Google might be more aggressive and go for $349 and $449 pricepoint instead. It still won't have a microsd slot and will probably be made by Asus. I expect a 5 megapixel shooter and other things to cut cost. The lack of a microsd slot is killer on a screen this high resolution. All the content that really drives it is several gigabytes and requires storage space. I have a makeshift pogoplug Nas at home that streams 4 TB of movies and tv shows but on the road, I need more space.

No it doesn't. There has been a review of the new samsung book cover and it is functionally identical to the one for the original galaxy note 10.1 (which I also own).

I hope we get pricing info on this damn thing soon. If it comes out September 25th, it will dodge the new internet sales tax and I'll probably grab the first one I can off Newegg tax free while the going's still good. I remember the galaxy note 10.1 was almost completely free of any sales the holiday season last year when it first came out. I probably would've bit had it gone down to $399 but it never did. I think it went on sale refurbished at Wal-mart for that price in like March or something. And it didn't go down to the buy-and-forget pricepoint of $249 (I sold my old Ipad 2 for it) refurbished until 2 weeks ago.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Arun01:
Sure I can name a tablet with a high res screen that's got front facing speakers...it's called the nexus 10 .
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
A "high-end" tablet from Asus is kind of an oxymoron. And from the N7-13 forum little's changed. I've had my Note 10.1 since August of last year and it performs as well and looks the same as it came out of the box. Samsung builds solid devices that hold up well and that's worth something.

Getting a 10.1-14 for the improved display, screaming CPU/GPU, better build quality, bigger battery, and smaller footprint is a no brainer. I'm drooling over the enhanced multitasking capabilities and revised pop-up apps. And I'll get the international LTE version with phone capabilities so I can use it with the Gear. I have an ultra-thin microUSB-rechargeable BT keyboard for the times I need it. And faux-Office is still awful on an Android tablet as is Android's handling of physical keyboards. So, at least in my mind, the "new" Transformer isn't any more compelling than the old one. And from its dismal sales the world isn't moved by keyboard-equipped Android tablets. Especially those with sketchy build quality and components.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] CLARiiON:
Official Note 10.1 microsite
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] icebergisonfire:
Best Buy is supposed to have these October 10th in the States.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Angus66:
Interesting - where did you hear that?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] icebergisonfire:
From Best Buy reps yesterday while walking through their Samsung portion of the store.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] lord69:
I've heard that n10's cpu and gpu cant keep up with the performance. That's the reason I didn't buy it in the firsr place.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] CLARiiON:
[YOUTUBE]Gw5gTh57L0k[/YOUTUBE]

Start at 2:06

Is this new to 2014 edition? The way you can flip between various apps within the same part of window itself. Was this present in OG Note 10.1?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] icebergisonfire:
[I haven't been about to figure this out given the limited info out there but the LTE version will also have wifi, correct? Also, the countries that get the SnapDragon 800 version should mirror what the Galaxy Note 3 is doing, right?

Last question, does anyone know of any store that sold the 64GB version of the OG Note 10.1 in a store or is that an internet purchase?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
Yes it has smart cover Functionality. Watch the video in post 95, its in the first 10 seconds
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Arun01:
Yes it's new. I don't think my note can do that.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] tenderidol:
Just sold my Note 10.1 and anxiously waiting for the release of 10.1 2014.

Although I can understand the complaints about the placement of speakers, it's nowhere close to being a deal breaker (at least for me) considering the features of the new model. Given the fact that I rarely use the speakers to listen to anything (mostly headphones), having a proper high resolution screen with digitizer tops everything!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Arun01:
How much are you guys selling your notes for? Also does the new note support big hard drives like 500gb as far as reading them?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] spycedtx:
I've heard lots of stuff about lots of things from many places. None of it means a thing without some information to back it up.

So.. resources to say they'd include components that can't actually be used?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] C2Q:
Sweet. It looks like the new note 10.1 has everything I'm looking for functionality wise. I guess I may bite the bullet on this one then when it comes out..depending on the price.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] tenderidol:
Most likely it'll be $499 for 16GB, $549 for 32GB and $599 for 64GB. No idea how much the 3G or 4G/LTE version would cost (not interested in those).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] salmonsushi:
Wait until your tablet keeps going back or pop up menu everytime you write because your palm is right where the back and menu buttons are.

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Have you heard of Nexus 10?

The point is Sammy can keep its original speaker design. For whatever brainless reason it switched on its Apple brain and decided to "simplify" things and improve "aesthetic" by downgrading speakers.

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My guess is Sammy squeeze everything in the drop down notification, like the phone version
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] mdalacu:
There is no word about USB OTG. This is true also for Note 3. It is one of my most used feature. Any thoughts?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] siturbo:
Nobody knows how the speakers sound so Mabey we should wait until it comes out before making judgement. They look like the same size so they probably have the same or better output. You don't need front facing to sound better, you need quality speakers
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gs2droid:
This will be my first tablet! soo excited...

a bit confused about the color.. does black and white color makes any difference with the experience or it's just a personal opinion??
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kkretch:
On the current model the white was only available in 16gb but the gray version was available in 16 and 32gb. I don't know about the 2014 models configuration but the storage size was the only difference.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aburns7487:
I like the idea of physical home button since my current home button on my note 10, is laggy sometimes as well as the toggles.pop up. I like they moved to full drag down bar and changed from.30 pin connector to.microSD for charger. As lob as microsd slot, dont really need monster 16gb+ and always stick with wifi only. Just wifi tether off your rooted phone...

I hope someone like Kalagas or TrueIcon make a theme for menus and buttons
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jinda628:
I also wonder why people get so disappointed even if they haven't tested it yet. From front to side? Come on, at least its not to the back.

We may not even have the bionic ear to distinguish the difference between the locations of the speaker.

This is a tablet forum and you guys complain about speakers? Move over to Bose and Harman Kardon forum:silly:

Seriously guys, lets give it a chance to show its worth on actual reviews. I had the nexus 10 and gave it to my daughter in a week after I bought it so this is basically my real first tablet. Dont ruin it for me please? :D

Edit:

Wow didnt notice it got its own forum section now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Smac7:
Any reason why i shouldn't just buy the 16 gb and buy a class 10 microsd card? I'm thinking about going that route.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] legendary1022:
Nope, wouldn't make that much of a difference. You can put your apps on the tablet and your media on the SD card. It all depends on your personal use of your devices. I like putting my movies and music on my SD card, with everything else on the device's storage.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Arun01:
Does anyone know if this baby can read 500gb hard drives like my galaxy note 2 can?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Smac7:
I don't normally store much music or movies on my device. But backups and root stuff tend to build up quickly for me. I hope samsung keeps the same pricing scheme. If they do, it's a done deal.

Has anyone heard any chatter on a release date?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] tenderidol:
Confusing for sure... The YouTube clip clearly shows it whereas reviews of the case mention that it's not there (unless of course they only played with the case without the 10.1 in it) :)

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September 25th is the release date I believe...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] salmonsushi:
Speakers at the bottom means they are point to the ground when I am holding it. Should I be optimising and think all sound are bass there should travel towards the ground?

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Depends on what apps. If you install a few 2GB Gameloft or EA app, you will run out of space. And saving apps to sd card is very dodgy and glitchy.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jankko:
Why hasn't Samsung disclosed Note 10.1 2014 price yet? I find it stupid that they keep vital information (the price) from potential customers.

I certainly hope they haven't gone mad and try to ask lot more for Note 2014 than what similar iPad costs.