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[General Topics] chinarabbit:
whoa.. there..

Windows Mobile?

If there was a Windows Mobile 7 that came out, it'd tank android.. period

a Windows Mobile wouldnt have anything to do with Nokia

Windows Mobile may even get HTC back to making original, useful, powerful phones as well, instead of the dainty smartphones - iphone & samsung wannabes - its been making..

Windows Mobile 7 & a new HTC machine built for the job

and its lights out android..

but in truth, android will always have a market with people who want to look slender and fashionable, and need a phone to match their image..

playboys, for instance.. probably no small amount of pimps and/or hustlers... probably every single member of the gay community, world-wide, who isnt using iPhone... some television executives who need a phone for things even he doesnt understand.. some hollywood types (though a WM7 HTC with lots of bling would surely win all win them over, if they could figure out what to do with it).. and everyone whose primary use for a phone is fruit ninja, showing off the world's crappiest photos, twittering, chatting, and using it as a vanity mirror

indeed WM7 users would likely be small in number, and limited to 'intellectual types', such as those with an actually practical need & use for a phone, other than matching their underpants.
[General Topics] taalibj01:
LOL all these are good views but for me windows phone makes me feel like i'm on a ball and chain no file management market is like a grave yard for old ancient retro games alot of retro games:eek: and way too much expense alot of items on android market are free when windows market is pay pay pay!!! buy buy buy!!!!! spend spend spend!!!!:laugh: big lack in phone privacy such as content on your phone no way to lock them not even third party apps :eek: well thats what i found

though their phones design is somewhat kinna appealing but features functionality is the down side:(
[General Topics] MikeyMike01:
I lasted less than two weeks using Windows Phone full time. There's some baffling decisions that went into it. Things like not being able to set custom notification tones, having one volume control everything (including headphones), and so forth really got to me. That, combined with the lack of apps leads me to vote no.
[General Topics] shadowcore:
Windows phone is retarded and boring. If it had all the features I could get out of an android phone, I would reconsider.

The only good thing about Windows phones is nokia maps and they are charging way too much for what an average nokia phone is.

Nokia lumia phones cant compete in any form, except maybe camera.

If nokia were to swtich to android, they would be facing a stiff market with sammy dominating it, which is sad but not suprising because Sony,LG and motorola are completely **** in one way or another. Heck, sammy is not good either but for some reason they dominate the market. Call it marketing if you will.

Simply said, no.
[General Topics] galaxys:
No, I left Windows for Android years ago!
[General Topics] tigre_blanco:
I wouldn't. I love that Android is such an open platform which is why I decided to stay away from Apple and MS. Emulators? you got it. Adblockers? you can install them. Better Google integration? Sure.
[General Topics] Mangeol:
No I wouldn't, :) interested in what Ubuntu might become but not for the Windows no.
[General Topics] Astrali:
android

i would not like to have windows mobile cause i dont really like microsoft produkts for private usage.

sad enough i am forced to use windows to play actual games cause most lack of support for Mac OS.

Playing actual games on linux is still a kind of science and luck.

so i am happy theres a good linux system for my mobile phone :) (called android)
[General Topics] one-option:
For me NOKIA is the best manufacturer ..... They really know how to made goo phone .

until now I bought like 20 phone 9 of them are NOKIA

The quality the materials....compatibility....most advanced options in one device ..........Long list of why I love NOKIA

it is enough to mention the pure view camera and the HAAC microphones

so if the Nokia shareholders vote yes for the Microsoft deal for sure I will buy WP 8 smart phone ......not because that I like Microsoft ....but really I love Nokia ..... I will assume that shareholders will vote yes in November so my vote yes
[General Topics] theoppositeman:
+1

---------- Post added at 09:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 PM ----------

hi guys.

smartphones getting much innovations this generation of techs.....

yes, some might say about different phone OSes, each has their own pros and cons.

as for me, i like windows phone, favoured android and easy to use iOS.

since using android for quiet some years now, i really miss windows phone (been using windows mobile since O2 and DOPOD....).

if given choice, i choose to revert back to WINDOWS PHONE......its not about NOKIA, but they are the only smartphone company who stood up with windows although many said their DEAD....if not because Samsung, people then will said ANDROID is DEAD too.....so its not about brands (for me), its about how we really put ourselves using it...

keep it up friends....

--== going to wait for Q4 2013, NOKIA LUMIA 1520, Latest WP8, 6" giant, Snapdragon Chip,......and many...:fingers-crossed:

ALSO,

--== waiting for next year, QSalpha Quasar IV Cipherphone, 4gb Ram, 128gb internal, 8mp front cam 20mp rear, 5" screen, total security phone....BUT, VERY EXPENSIVE....:laugh:
[General Topics] chinarabbit:
I would still definitely leave Android for a Windows MOBILE 7 solution

or a Windows phone that can run an actual Windows 7 or Windows 8, not RT or some other crap

Honestly, I'd just like a Mobilized version of Windows 7, picking up where you left off on Windows Mobile 6.1, but using all of todays hardware advancements, and Microsoft's own maturity & advancements in the area of Computing Stability

I'd like a device with a plethora of hardware buttons assignable to various Programs.

I'd like it to have power and freedom in mind.. i feel like an advertising tool and a tool of the Carriers & Phone Developers with Android, as if the last person they were creating a phone for was the user.

COME ON MICROSOFT, YOU HAVE A LOYAL USERBASE WAITING FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOUR WINPHONE CRAP..

Just waiting for you to make the move to Windows Mobile, resurrect the dead, and breath new life into it.

waiting..

fire your CEO if he thinks winphone is the neatest thing ever, or the future of Microsoft
[General Topics] Siotma:
Definitely not

I think that which Android means is what all thigs are tending to: an open source that all can share, and I love this way of thinking.

I respect Microsoft because it makes very stable and versatile operating systems, but I think what Android has achieved is not going to be won by Microsoft.
[General Topics] Archer:
I think you misunderstand. Open Source means that you can freely acquire the source code and build it yourself, which you can. The Android source code is freely available online.

Your complaints have nothing to do with Android. You complain about the state of apps and 3rd party providers working on the OS before giving it to you on your phone. That's got nothing to do with Android, or Google.

Android IS open source. What happens after that is the fault of the people, not the creator.
[General Topics] chinarabbit:
I think you missed the point

the point is the Culture of the System.. the Culture of the Creator, the Culture of Google, which has, in every way imaginable, influenced & created the Culture of the Android Community

Android is the Teat

and the sucklings weened on the Milk have in them the DNA of their Mother Google

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"Android" is open source.. but thats a system found in many basic electronic products such as receivers, tvs, dv players, etc..

good luck making a phone out of that

ICS, JB, KK, are created by people who's only use for Open-Source is free control of the people and their data without oversight

their own platform, unaccountable to anyone else..

They continually "Patch" "problems" that give users control of their own system, for profit, data-collection, advertising, and user-control purposes

I think the next Android build should be Android Kool-Aid

Drink it up

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[General Topics] Archer:
So what you're saying is that Google have created a free operating system to suck us all into their web where they can steal as much information from us as possible, and we just hand it over without even thinking?
[General Topics] chinarabbit:
well, lets look at the OS

it is not designed for you to have any control over it.. It IS designed for any dork with an APK to put any thing he or she wants to on your device (a recipe for success when trying to get devs on board)

They have the power to consume all your RAM, run at start up, Brick your Storage, etc without you having any control over any of it

They are made to have user-granted "permissions" to data collection, and usage monitoring, etc, to functions which are of course marketing Gold-mines, as well as having something to do with how the program operates.. conveniently.

which is really just a way to get you to closely stare at the terms of usage that people normally just skip over.. stare at them very, very closely, so by clicking "ok" you are signing over your rights to any and all privacy which is something I'm sure a team of lawyers schemed up to keep them out of court

Your average user, your mother, auntie, uncle, sister, girlfriend, wife, etc.. are doing nothing but using a device which is created simply to monitor their usage, and give them no power to control any of it.

Have you used an unrooted stock device? anyone with half a clue about any sort of computing cant help but feel disgusted by the entire process, and wonder what the hell they're even doing swiping this or that around a phone built from top to bottom to allow all users unadulterated access to your psychographic data & usage stats.. and keep you locked out of the entire process, completely

and then, luckily, there are some devs who can exploit weaknesses in the OS which allow us to root the device, and control whats going on..

and for the goofs behind Android, thats an acceptable loss of a market they wont be riding .. not a problem, since they still have 90% of users anyway, and will be patching that weakness in the next build

and then other exploits such as using your External SD are also exploits of weaknesses that allow manufacturers to carefully control a shiny new Gigabyte for every phone over the next 32 years, until you get 32 GBs.. but by then you'll need 256

and they'll patch anything that goes against their plans for control and domination for manipulative purposes

there is nothing about Android that is for the user.

all we have that is worthwhile are exploits & hacks

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[General Topics] Archer:
I notice you didn't answer my question.
[General Topics] chinarabbit:
I leave that to you

Most people probably dont care, they are excited just to see colorful things moving about, this way or that

I'm not in that class of people

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[General Topics] theoppositeman:
Hi guys.

I really like the ideas from posts above. All are great ideas. As for me every OS created are from people who do business in the tech world and we are the people who work 24 hours earning those money to throw for these gadgets..

So for me what ever OS its not much different in terms of projecting profits to these tech business owners, but merely a tool for me to use for my everyday life. So a good OS like wp/wm from microsoft is good for me although now i use android because theres no 6incher around for wp and wm.

By november i will again go back to windows phone world where nokia 1520 will be available then.

Thanks for all the ideas and information which some people like me wont realised it.

Good explalanation from both experts above.

T28@MT1-U06
[General Topics] Archer:
Yeah, that's not what Android is. You're clearly very fond of the platform you use and don't want any other. If you're not going to answer any questions raised in response to your posts then I guess there's no point trying to discuss it with you.

Incidentally, I'm safe from the Google world domination plan. I got my protection a long time ago!
[General Topics] Magamo:
I have no intention of switching myself. Android is simple enough that I can put it in the hands of of someone who's never touched a smartphone before and they're comfortable with it, yet I myself can tinker with every aspect I choose to. A big factor why I switched from Windows 9x to Linux a dozen years ago and never looked back as well.
[General Topics] sebtorres82:
I will not leave Android but I will consider buying the Nokia 1020 as a second phone.
[General Topics] elmachinegun:
I'll stay with Android until something better comes out.

As for Nokia 1020... I have read that is an excellent camera, so maybe... :rolleyes:

PS. Nice helmet Archer... :p
[General Topics] Mamutsxda:
If this is about Android tablets, my answer will be yes. But in telephone business Android is unrivaled.
[General Topics] theoppositeman:
+1

Well because of the terms open source which saves a lot of smartphones companies as well in china too. Thats in term of business.

As for me i do like windows in phones coz its easy for me and not for so many. I have been with android too for long since i drop windows just bcoz of small screens. All my androids are rooted and hacked the day i bought them and no comments.

Just that windows are much suitable for ne in my area of work and business.

Actually it depends on what people use phones for, like the main topic of this forum is. The topic itself suggested 'would' so for me i keep both OS eventhough i use 4..

T28#HOX
[General Topics] Reaper219:
Not unless they provide similar levels of customization and control.
[General Topics] Captain Jack Sparrow:
No way I wouldn't give up android for anything :):D:p
[General Topics] sukkukikku:
Never

Never

Never

Never

Never

I won't leave android for windows.
[General Topics] MR4Y:
I've never seen, nro used a Windows Phone in person. Considering the lack of apps and things, I wouldn't switch either. But I never used one, so I can't say for sure.
[General Topics] ykpoenis:
prefer android system, and i do not want to change my android phone and tablet. ;)
[General Topics] iMewo:
I might to experience different phone OS
[General Topics] Unknownkj:
No. Maybe different phone makers of Android. I don't really have a good impression of windows phone
[General Topics] Z3r0M3m0rY:
No, WP is too limited.
[General Topics] Roefastford:
I might if it didnt have old tech parts which usually seems to be the case with htc ones.
[General Topics] E_Phather:
My friend has a WP8 phone, Looked pretty but I could never get down with the way MS organized their layout. Never got a chance to look into the guts of the os.

If I ditch android it's becuase Ubuntu phone or another open source varient (pref Linux based) has overtaken it.
[General Topics] Villacanale:
WP is not up to Android!
[General Topics] Rolling Pank:
Pipo

Definately with Andorid!!

And i am trying something new,& will stop trying. Expecting Pipo mobile phone now.
[General Topics] akarora121:
Never
[General Topics] lobothefoots:
I may consider a change to windows phone OS if Windows 8 was not so crappy.
[General Topics] bcombel:
NO
[General Topics] sash11:
ssedCne summarily

Not going to switch the OS on my phone. If admin wrights and call recording become available on Windows platform I might consider doing it. But still... Android is the way to go for now.
[General Topics] aladdin2101:
No .. for at least 2 years :D
[General Topics] codemonkey98:
If the WP had a lot of support, along with a great hacking team, I would. But for now, my S3 is mine and only mine.
[General Topics] Jamson85:
Hell no!!

Not even are the specs from windows phone running behind comparing to Android..

The phone's that are available at the moment aren't my taste..

Besides that the posibilities you have with Android are legion compared to iOS and windows phone...

I had windows phone in the past (HTC tytn 1 and 2, HTC touch hd) but when I went to Android I said never going back haha
[General Topics] DumbleCore:
If I want a Windows phone, I'll switch to WP8 launcher and still have all my loved Android features....

Tapped from my RazR
[General Topics] codemonkey98:
They did introduce a nice camera. The quality of the devicesd are nice but the community and software/apps isn't.
[General Topics] theoppositeman:
Its all about what os does to individuals lifestyles etc.

As for me, said before, i'll gi back to WP. With the latest updates/upgrades from microsoft, an overall stable release of GDDR3, which provides everything for an even android to dual boot and change os in just one phone regardless of the previous former 'button rules' from windows. Two OS isnt that bad afterall.

T28@MT1-U06
[General Topics] cheechoi:
wont be getting any windows phone anytime soon
[General Topics] Piepioor:
Not at all

There's no way I'd switch to Windows Phone.

Why?

1) Interface - too basic and not very configurable, not that pretty as Android,

2) Not open source - meaning no custom firmwares, I couldn't modify what I want,

3) WP phones are more expensive,

4) Developing apps on WP is more expensive and programmer has less freedom when it comes to access all that phone has to offer,

5) Agressive promo campaigns of Windows Phone make me tired,

6) Microsoft has all the potential to make not only fine but also great pieces of software, however as it happens in big corporations - there is little space for innovative ideas and creative people "in below".

Greetings.
[General Topics] codemonkey98:
1, 2, 4 5 - This is because it's Microsoft. Look how the registry works and the vulnerabilities. But that's another discussion for another day.

The rest is because there isn't much support.
[General Topics] star warski:
Talked to some people who switched from Android to Windows Phone, because of employment reasons. No O:ne is happy...
[General Topics] alesistl:
I tried all the all the system: windows mobile 2003-6.5,symbian...but the android is the most best
[General Topics] Jamson85:
Yeah they did bring a nice camera.. but I want a good phone, not a good camera...

If you think about the latest version of windows phone just bringing the capabelity for dual core and not even the resolution that we have on Android...

They are still running behind the facts.. not only hardware wise but also with the apps like you mention
[General Topics] Tr-man:
I don't own a windows phone and I don't think I ever will be. I'm completely satisfied with Android. I think a mobile windows os will never be as lightweight as android.
[General Topics] Tumelar:
Never, I hate windows phone, it's too, too, tooooooooooo...SIMPLE!
[General Topics] Chickenmunga:
I'm of the same opinion. Short story long....

I came from an iPhone 4S jailbroken with a very light amount of mods (my major change was to add a pull down menu for toggling BT, wifi, etc...), and it generally did what I want.

I was able to sell my phone and actually MAKE money by upgrading to either a WP or an Android, so I compared a Lumia 920 and the Galaxy S3.

The Lumia was incredible from a hardware standpoint. Felt like it was a weapon to hold and the camera was astounding. The OS was fast and engaging. Remote desktop astoundingly great. However, reality began to set in:

-Calendar widget displayed what days I had events on... but instead of a dot with an event summary below (like iOS) or event summaries all over the month view (like the Galaxy, or the Android app Business Calendar which are BRILLIANT), it showed... Lorem Ipsum.... WTH!??!!

-Tiles are constantly repositioning as you add apps. If they added folders of tiles, it would greatly add to organization

- there's too much emphasis on connected experiences. Trying to get Facebook and Hotmail and Exchange and G+ and so on all in one big ball is annoying, especially if you want to keep some of those lives separate.

The Galaxy felt like a much more mature experience (duh), improvements in areas where the iOS was needing help, and felt like I was getting things done easier. 64GB on top of my internal storage is pretty great, too!. However, where the iOS is opressively restrictive, Android can cluttery and feel like programs are competing without expert setup (I'm still fighting with getting the voice apps working how I want).

I'm not sure what to do next phone choice, there's benefits I see to each platform... but MS needs to really up their game still.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] michaelz123:
Hello,

I received a AT&T Galaxy S III from Best Buy after my initial one broke. After I received the new one, I put CyanogenMod 10.1 on it and got horrible battery life. I bought new batteries to see if that was the issue and I got the same results. The battery would drop about drastically, a charge lasted about 2-3 hours with minimal use. I wiped my cache (a dalvik cache), cleared my phone, and installed SlimBean on it. After that I got the same results (I don't have a ton of background apps or anything). Should I assume this is a hardware issue since I am using new batteries and have tried two different ROMs? Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Thanks for your help!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] rdoac:
There is an issue at the moment with recent cm10.2 based builds not going into deep sleep. Load the deep sleep widget and see if your phone is going into it. If not, you have this issue. See my other post for suggestions. (Turn off Location Sharing/Wifi and SystemUpdateService).
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] michaelz123:
Thanks! I just downloaded this, but I'm not sure how to interpret it. What percentage am I looking for? It says 64% now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] rdoac:
64% is good. It means its not the deep sleep issue. You want that percentage to be as high as possible. Deep Sleep is the lowest CPU state available while in standby. I'm battling an issue on Paranoid Android where I'm getting 1 - 2 % deep sleep.

Better Battery Stats will give you an idea if one of your apps is running out of control. But my immediate guess is that with 64% deep sleep you're running about right. What do you do in those 2-3 hours? What is your coverage like? Minimal signal may give you weird results. (Sorry, I have to wait 5 mins between posts)..
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] exodus454:
You have to give the phone a little time to settle out too. Any new installation of a ROM or new device takes a little while to build all the caches and work through the background syncing stuff until it settles out to low consumption. How's your cell service? When I have little to no reception my phone tears through battery life while it searches for signals. Wifi will do the same thing too, just to a smaller extent.

Let your phone get down to the point where it needs to be charged (<10%) and take a look at your battery stats in the system settings. Post your time on battery here, and also the top 3-4 things that are consuming your battery with the percentages. Click on the "screen" and let us know what your screen-on time is as well.

That's probably a good place to start.
[LG Optimus 2x] azharshaikh7866:
Is there any app to lock n unlock phone without using power button.....it takes 3-4 attempts to unlock....power button is almost dead.....i have enabled screen off by long press menu key on tonyp cm10.1 the rom.......but to unlock i have to press power button hard...i knw about tap tap screen on off
[LG Optimus 2x] hafizkris90:
Auto screen on in playstore.. Unlock ur device via Proximity sensor.. Or gravity screen.. Also available in pstore.. :)
[LG Optimus 2x] Epigenetic:
You can try "Lock Screen" at google play. Description of "Lock Screen" from google play: "Lock screen in anywhere！Touch the suspended icon to lock screen, completely liberate the power button."