yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] pntzamaras:
forget all this story, imate k-jam is available throgh expansys. Anyone who bought it please extract the rom, and send it to Buzz :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] heretic:
Sorry to offend y'all. Forgive my bad choice of words. :)

It's not about frustration, really. I'm pretty sure that Magician WM5.0 ROM will surface somewhere sometime. I really am not that anxious. What (sure hope this is a polite enough expression) pisses me off, though, is the fact that some dude comes here and lies to a whole lot of good people who help each other on a daily basis. That is just sick... Everythig said is IMHO, of course.

Anyways, I don't think this thread should be locked, though. People should have their chance to let some steam out. Lock this one and there will be 5 more popping out with the same flame. I just think that if we all agree that this thread is about something we know for sure to be a hoax, then it should be moved here. This is a Magician upgrading etc. forum, thus having nothing to do with the subject. All this IMHO.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] CoolGadget:
I had the Qtek 9100 for 2 weeks now, and offered Buzz the ROM. But when I asked him if it's possible to tell me how I can do this for him, he never replied to me. :cry: I'm a noob in this stuff but I"m willing to help.

So if someone can tell me how, I'll try do this for you, cause I want to know if this ROM would be any usefull for my JAM
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tjempeng:
yeah! it's x-mas time soon and i never had rabbit for x-mas dinner sooo....... ;-) hehehe .... yum yum gimme some.....

here little nice rabbit, i've got a juicy carrot for you ... gna gna gna!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Well, I figured this was a joke some weeks ago, so I am not mad or anything like that. Maybe a bit dissapointed, 50% because the ROM really was a hoax, 50% because of all the Shut-The-F***-Up'ers.

Good thing, though, is that we got to see some excitement for the Magician again. Most likely that was the last time, so I hope you all enjoyed it :)

Personally I think I'll stick with the Magician the next few months, until an alternative with built in GPS is ready. But I guess a lot of you guys will switch right away to the Wizard or whatever, so have fun with your WM5 :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
sorry man, its not easy to deal with all those emails and PMs...

besides... is the qtek9100 the same as jam? if not, then its rom is not suitable for jam.

btw, if you'd search forums or google a bit, you'll find several ways, how to get the rom dumped.

with grab_it, it's a piece of cake even for noobiest noob outthere

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] seamus_hean:
Oh dear, this are really bad news :(

It was so funny to discuss about Raptorz`s funny new stories, especially if they are true. But the rabbit`s story is best - just one thing is missing, an epic and mystic blow up of the story. So to all creative writers out there, let flow your energy and make it a story "Brother Grimms" would be proud of :wink:

What`s left to say, is thank`s to Buzz for his work and time he invested in this story. You make great job!!!

Greetz Seamus_hean
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
knew it was a joke for some weeks now :)

nice hoax though :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] jimmy-bish:
The rom from the 9100 (ie: K-Jam) wouldn't be suitable as it has a totally different processor (200mhz TI OMAP), 128 meg rom, inbuilt Wifi etc. There are just too many differences to even bother. We'd have better success re-hacking the already hacked rom for the Himalaya or whatever phone it's on.

I'm keeping my Jam for a while. I'm happy with how it's working for me and I only wanted WM5 to have a play.

Gotta admit, it has been fun flaming each other. And for that, thankyou Raptorz!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
"Forget about the rom. Is raptor health ok? That is all that matters!"

I'm sorry about all of you, belivers, who were fooled by some f*ck, with a trully unbelievable story. That is what you get, when you praise the bad guys, and bash the good guys.

Fakers will burn in hell though.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kneeslasher:
Tensions seem rather high. Regardsless, it seems to me that many individuals thought that they could get the ROM (or make a (possibly) fake story real) merely by believing that if everybody acted nice, it would happen. The world doesn't quite work that way. Not that we shouldn't act all nice and all that, but not as a "bribe" to try and persuade someone to give us something. We should talk and shoot straight about concrete issues such as whether someone has a ROM.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] NightmarE:
Guys Please forget all about raptorz story, he just made it to let us know that he was bluffing, the main point here is "Is there any chance to get WM2005 on Magician?! or what?!". never mind how long it may take!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] jimmy-bish:
I think for now, the best thing is to go back to reading the sticky at the top of the forum again! It would be possible to "cook" a rom theoretically, but we'd have to find/create drivers for the hardware and then provide our own updates and bug fixes. Alot of work and probably not enough people with the time or the knowhow to get it done and keep up the support. I've got the time, but definately not the knowledge.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Never mind the ROM. All that is important right now is if the rabbit is ok! And the kid, of course. And the wife. And the internet connection. And the BT connection. And the secret guy with an Imate ROM so secret, that Imate haven't even heard about it. And the back...

I think Raptor was out for a quick laugh, but not being very good at this game, he got caught. He never figured it would go this far, that he would actually be contacted about this little story, so he got confused. Tried to stall. But of course, sooner or later he had to do what everyone with stories like that does. Shut up, stay away and get a new nick.

As mentioned here earlier, perhaps it would be fun for admin to check out the ip of raptor and see, if the same ip is being used by a new user :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] thormdac:
Maybe something of interest

German t-mobile has announced serious chances of the new mdacompact2 being launched around christmas.

It is planned to have larger mhz, rom, wirelesslan and most of all WM2005.

Apart from the large amount of rubbish posts here this might be something really interesting.

Greetings
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arg0:
Re: Maybe something of interest

This could be the HTC Athena that has been announced also by O2 as XDA Atom. Posts and interest about Athena are starting to grow: we should ask for a new top-level forum about this new and exciting device!

In the meantime, some more info here:

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=28991

and here

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27990

and here (offsite)

http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?p=304506#post304506
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] creamhackered:
:roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
creamhackered,

Most likely you are right. I have no reason to believe otherwise. But since that was your first posting here, no one knew you and had no reason to believe you over Raptor (except his story got more weird all the time).

Even if you are Bill Gates himself, first time posting under an unknown nick will never give you high credibility. Don't take that personal, it's just a fact. It's also the same reason why so many ppl believed in Raptor: he was a long time member, thus less likely to suddenly make freak claims.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dahquim:
Been following this story from the start, all i can say is how sorry i am that this was not true.

Oh well i suppose its back to hpoing that something may turn up, until then its WM2003 SE all the way.

Dahquim
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] raptorz2003x:
hey, i understand all your hate, i dont blame the flames, and i fully understand.. prehaps an explination to this whole fiasco?...

firstly to asure you all, my "stories" where infact not fake, all speak of my wife and child where and still are true, me damaging my back is also true. the extent f my injerys are true, and yes even the rabbit (who my wife left in front room while cooking) managed to chew teh phone cable i had badly run across the foor, read about rabbits they dont care what it is but if its in thir path they chew it) thats why the lack of reply to buz, in this time i was brave enough to test the rom myself on my own jam, i put it ionto my laptop, extracted the rom file, read some faq's and flashed my device, i then rebooted and see a windows mobile 2003 screen, i thought intersting... i then proceeded to wai for the extended rom to install... the device sofot reset and the boot changed to wm2005 screen, the device had fully loaded and it appeared to be wm2003 for a split second and then the appearnce turned into windows mobile 5, further research shows that the extended rom installed wisbar and wisbardesktop plugin with windows mobile skins wich skins the desktop, (gives the keyboard to the middle, phone to either sides etc) it even skined the phone book and dialler) and managed to rewrite the bootscreen ( i asume with a cab exicution) now what amaxed me further was that i checked ashes about and it said wm5, but then in the start menu there is a about program installed fro mextended rom..made to ghost the normal about (a clone if you will) and it says wm5... so me being me and pissed of and feeling like the most stupid person in the world.. i contacted ash (y ringing the store) he said as far as he was awear it was wm5 wich he obtained from a jam webchannel (before he said website) it turns out its a irc channel... with a clever extended rom recreated as a eitehr clone or hoax... so yes... the rom is fake, no its not my fault. no i didnt lie and yes i made a mistake... and yes its a damn good clone.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] lutzh:
sounds like a story that i can follow & understand. so, instead of being p!ssed all together just sit back and think that this could have happend to all of us (including the rabbit).

cheers, lutz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xasser:
raptorz2003x may i ask a dump question ??

how old are you ??

guys check this out

http://www.funky.co.uk/members/viewprofile.php?user=raptorz2003x

he is a kid :o

google is a great tool :evil:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] elyl:
Oh man, these stories get wilder and wilder. Mate, why don't you just admit you thought it'd be a laugh to take the piss out of people on this forum, and then when people called your bluff you made up convenient excuses to worm your way out of it - but a lot of older and wiser members spotted you straight away for what you are.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] thormdac:
Re: STOPP telling stories and get back to the main idea

NO; they are not talking about the athena! The machine is said to look like the current mdac, but upgraded. Due to manufacturing problems it has not yet been released but is planned before christmas!!! `cause of the manufacturing delay the mda PRO has been released.

ISn´T THIS WORTH TO FOLLOW UP RATHER THEN FOLLOWING YOUR STORYTELLER? Is this a storyteller- and detectivesboard, or is this a xda developers?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Thank goodness he decided to come clean, after deceiving us for 5 weeks!

He changed the settings and version too, that scoundrel!

Btw, since this story is more than one month old now, my guess is that ANY beta that old of Wisbar Desktop would have expired by now?

I won't comment on that, but remember that this isn't a messageboard about doggies or horsies. This is the top tech board of the XDA pro's! Meaning more highly intelligent people come here than on most other boards. So maybe this isn't the best of places to deliver a halfcooked story, but what do I know?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] xda2jojo:
a long f(tooot)ing absent but i am still alive...and i thought we got it now...

wl thats life... :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] elyl:
Re: STOPP telling stories and get back to the main idea

The Athena apparently looks exactly like the Magician, minus about 2mm in size. Go figure.

What? If you want to discuss another topic, you are free to start another topic - don't try and hijack a thread, regardless of how unproductive the original is. And a quick search will find a number of existing topics regarding alternatives to the Magician from HTC.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Wow, this is a good amount of interesting things in one single post.

Split second, eh? Wisbar Advance2 needs serveral seconds to load.

Wisbar Advance2 can not put the keyboard the middle, i've used/i'm using that program for enough time to know it, also it can not remake the two softkey interface. Also, Wisbar Advance Desktop has absolutelly nothing to do with the WM5 look (besides that you can mimic the bottom two-key softbar with a static png file, but...)

I'm pretty sure you can not just "recreate" WM5 interface, it would be a really hard thing. I don't say it is impossible, but assuming that silly things you've wrote above, i'm pretty sure this thing does not exist. Or, show us. Period.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
wrong

if you dont know what you are talking about, dont say anything

the .nb1 files can be inside a CAB file with /WINDOWS as the hardcoded path, where they belong
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Thanks for the correction :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] thormdac:
Re: STOPP telling stories and get back to the main idea

:twisted:

Braindead?

This thread is what? - About Magician WM2005!!!

Magician is what? - Produced by HTC and known also as mdacompact!!

The new version of the mdac(compact) is to be out before christmas.

Meaning what? - The new machine is to be having WM2005 !!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] lyka:
about new mdacompact i don't think that the hardware will be the same of the old one, this mean that the rom will not be so easy to let run on jam.

however...

I just had a chat with imate support. i asked them about wm5 on jam and they told me that they've made assestment on their current devices and unlikely them would run wm5...

:shock:

so they think that the hardware could not "hold" wm5.

this made me crazy so i told them that many companies offer more support...

we are workikng hard....bla bla...

i wonder why upgrade jam with new 2003se rom like 1.12, if there is wm5 around...com'on imate, qtek, mda, o2, what's the problem? You just want to sell us new devices?

I bought my jam less than 6 month ago...why should i buy atom, k-jam or universal...that's not right. Not for a student that spend money for a pda that looks cool but give me problems, like bluetooth, camera and various crashes. I really love this device, but i cant stand that company like eten give mooooooooooooore support than "our companies that work so hard"

will be more honest if imate and the others wrote on the first page of the news:

05/10/2005

windows mobile 5 announced on your device. how to obtain it? You just have to sell your jam on ebay and buy eten.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ppower:
lyka,

"that is not right" is only for us/consumers, its a marketing strategy.. how do you think that they can find money without selling similar devices? For example I believe that our devices could have wifi antenna and it costs them only a few bucks and a little more labour but then what is the differences between k-jam and jam ;) and then they give up the best reform "wifi support" on k-jam.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dahquim:
Personally i brought the JAM because it was small, i don't want anything bigger, and if there is not something around the same size or smaller when i come to upgrade, i will be keeping my Jam until it does.

Does this mean i wont be using WM5.0, if it don't get released then yes, i won't be using it.

I wont go out and buy a phone that i dont really want, and will end up costing me money, just so i can have the lastest version of the OS. I will stay with the Jam, i know there are problems with it, but i live with these because it is a great little phone. Little being the Key Word.

Will i buy a new phone to get WM5.0: NO

Will i keep my Jam: YES

SIZE DOES MATTER, The Smaller the Better!

Not sure how many other people feel like this, but that is my opinion.

Dahquim
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Pyrofer:
People should stop complaining about not having wm2005 for their brand of phone.

Its got what its got when you buy it! thats it.

Unless there was a promise "With upgrade path to wm2005" then tough, its not their problem.

Are you going to complain that your DVD player wont play the new HD DVD discs? no? why? maybe because you never assumed it would!

Give them a break, MS charge money for wm2005, so they cant give it away free, and why sell it when it would hurt sales of new devices?

It sucks I know, but feel sorry for people with XDAII. There is no official upgrade for them at all from 2003! not even 2003 SE !

If you dont want a buggy hacked rom, its ppc2003 ONLY for them. At least the Jam et al have 2003se on them. You want to go back to not having a screen rotate option?

WM2005 was never promised, so dont complain that its not offered. If you want it, buy a new phone, you dont have to have it you know.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] unlockMe:
shoot Raptorz

In case you're interested to bump his head off the body, here's a link with

- his location

- his ugly face

- his ICQ number

[edit]

Link deleted .....

[/edit]

Feel free to use appropriately.

Note: there is no picture of him and his rabbit in a sex scene, but you can probably find one where the rabbit is attached with the telephon wire :D

[edit]

Not funny what you're talking about......

Stefan

[/edit]
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Well, I am not about to go off in a vengence mission, due to not getting WM5. I'm not even interested in bothering this guy on his ICQ. But if you have seen a picture, I sure would like to know if he's the kid most of us suspect, or he really is a grown man, as he claims to? Personally, I find his 'joke' a bit easier to stomack, if he's just a kid...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] :
Yes, that's exactly it. It's how they make money.

BTW I'm happy with my PDA with WM2003SE. It works just fine and there's no need to upgrade the OS. When I get a new phone, maybe the Athena or whatever else is around at the time, then I'll have what ever OS it's running.

Also, there are lots of apps for WM2003SE and not that many yet for WM5. WM5 will be a good proposition in 6 months time but now right now.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] elyl:
Re: STOPP telling stories and get back to the main idea

Look, pal, unless you know exactly what you're talking about, don't call me braindead.

Regardless of what the new HTC device will be branded as (MDA Compact, XDA II Mini etc) - chances are it is going to be the Athena, which has already been discussed in other threads - looks the same as the Magician, but with slightly smaller dimensions, Wifi and a better camera. HTC makes the device, MDA or i-mate or whoever else call it what they want - just because it is still called the MDAcompact does not mean it is the same device.

The fact that it has Wifi and a different camera, means it has different hardware and will not be the same device as the magician, meaning the ROM will be useless for the magician. Just because you say something enough times, does not make it true.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
cant we just lock this thread, which by now has turned way beyond stupid and get on with everyday life as we are used to it here?

please
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] LumpiStefan:
Done.... ;-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] RAGOv:
Hey bro...

Read this http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=22861&highlight=grab then download the "grab it" software developed by Buzz,put it on a 128MB SD,and insert it in the Magneto jam....all it takes is 2 minutes,and it's so discreet that so called "Ash" wont notice u have "stolen" his OS!! :twisted:

Do it now and don't do the what Mr.Happy did before(Mr.happy wasn't mistaken,the tool was't invented then,but now.....u don't have an aliby :wink: )....

Good luck.....(u will need it,I beleive! :wink: )

RAGO :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imapfsr:
hey all,

Had to step out. I had dl the wrong rom bur have the right one now and am about a third of the way updating rom. Does vbguru613 know this for a fact that is is 2003 or is he speculating. I will know in about 10 minutes. Again, I will update you all as soon as I know.

Todd
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Xeon:
Guys ... U are dreaming , But ....WHO CARES as long as everyone seems to be happy :twisted: :twisted:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imapfsr:
Step 3........last step :roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dax2:
??????????

what os is this device are talking about becose i am lost

jim
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
OK and why should we dream, is it that weird that there would be an upgrade ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imapfsr:
re booting....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imapfsr:
re booting to avoid cab install.......
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
ok it's nothing, i think the tap screen you would notice that it was different ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] imapfsr:
People,

I am the proud owner of a magician running WM2003 SE. What a drag, I was hoping and dreaming. Oh well, maybe next time, eh! :x
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
And i still don't see why the reseller would lie and why raptorz i would lie ;) So i think it's worth a search and anybody who has an imate jam, could login to the clubimate forum, and maybe find out there ;)

Also it would be helpful if raptor thel us what exchange that was, and for who the guy was working for, so we can track him down and get into his house :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] shamus:
If I would have access to WM5 on magician at least I would make a picture with running os... Consider that he had own magician in the pocket...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Xeon:
weird? mmm....YES i guess so because ....mmm I dont know why :twisted: ...but it seems strange . Anyway good luck 8)

btw nice website :wink: :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] BoSJo:
Don't share the WM5 Magician dudes name or any info on where you met him or where he works or any info about at all.

Just get the Dump, send it to Buzz and let him clean it from any tracing numbers and prepare it for install.

Each info you share on this dude just minimizes the chance of getting the Dump :!: :!:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] raptorz2003x:
hi

hello, i shal obtain some pictures for u and ill take my laptop in and get a rom dump for you also. im willingto go thorugh great lenths to gets this rom online and ill risk geting my laptop stolen. after all laptops are cheap. .and the reason i didnt get pictures today is becuase my jam was so flat it wouldnt even read hte sd card.

i shal get this up here within hte next 2 weeks. happy magicianing :)...

p.s il lge thte rom to buzz and the screens to xda dev forums
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] RAGOv:
Re: hi

LAPTOP!!!!!

Why would u take a laptop with u?!.....Have'nt u read the link I gave u?....Dump the ROM bro using "grab it" tool...Check the link....

RAGO :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
god......dear god.....make it be true
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
Never underestimate us oldies :wink: raptorz2003x - good luck! can't wait for the news!!

::adit