yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
Good luck in advance raptor and thanks also in advance :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Speedn:
It includes some added extras compared to the previous WWE 1.12 rom update in the extended rom...it's same OS and Radio as the WWE 1.12 rom update.

The new extras are SKYPE, CA antivirus, and Autosensing (auto config of MMS and GPRS settings based on the SIM card in the Jam at the time.) other than that its exactly the same as the previous WWE 1.12 rom as far as i can see.

SpeedN
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
Hi raptorz,

if you manage to get the dump, DONT share it yet... just PM me...

hope you will...

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
*prays on knees*
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
²
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Xeon:
lol
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Squuiid:
To DUMP ROM you need this Raptorz:

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=22861&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=grab
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] julien625:
I am actually downloading one file called WM2005PH10B on the P2P. someone now what is it ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ajong:
PH10B is Himalaya Device. :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] julien625:
Haaaa SHI*

On my SPV M500 with Imate 1.12 Rom FRE, in device information :

Identity :

Device n° : PM10B

Plateforme : Pocket PC

IMEI : 35*****...

:roll:

So :

PM10B = Magician (Qtek S100, SPV M500 etc=

PH10B = Himalaya ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
yes
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] joehood:
Any news on getting hold of it?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vbguru613:
Today is tuesday

Lets see if this guy can come through......

Oh good old MR happy days
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
Re: Today is tuesday

Be patient. He said it could take 2 weeks ... :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Squuiid:
Raptorz2003x, we're all waiting in high anticipation. Good luck with your ROM hunt!

If you need any help please ask, we're all here with a wealth of info...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] sh500:
Is he sure it wasn't just a 'theme' to look like the WM2005 layout?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Well, tuesday has come and gone and not a word in here. So I guess the only thing we are sure of, is that WM5 ain't gonna happen this time either...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] BoSJo:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4211.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
dude please shut your mooth if you don't know something for sure. He is a year longer member then you are, so why would an advanced members make a joke like this !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
...and I have been here longer than you, so please shut the f*ck up!

Maybe that guy was fooled by someone with a WM5 theme. Could happen to anyone of us, if we didn't get enough time to check things out. Did that ever occur to you?

Besides, this is a FORUM, meaning that everyone is entitled to an opinion. Goddam ignoramus...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
but he has more posts then you :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] creamhackered:
Just so you guys don't get any hopes up.

There is no WM5 compiled for Magician devices. Microsoft never started compiling WM5 ROMs for Magician as the device didn't exist when they were planning Magneto. I've had this confirmed by a Microsoft rep at the recent modaco.com summer event. I've heard stories similar to this before.

Magneto will never be available for Magician unless Microsoft compiles a build for it (not a hope in hells chance) or someone hacks another device build to run on it (will likely not happen but if it does will be poor performance).

Just to let ya know :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Xeon:
LOL nice one :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
creamhackered - isn't compiling the release OS down to the manufacturer (ie HTC) and a copy of platform builder?

PS is that also your modaco id? I was at the event on Saturday... lots of drinking, lots of geeking, not much info :(

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
chill :lol:

::adit
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] unlockMe:
Do you really think we will take the time to compile a specific build of WM5.0 for each mobile on the market??

Each device manufacturer (HTC in our case) will use Platform Builder to build a specific Windows Mobile 5.0 platform for their device. Then, they develop custom drivers/get drivers from MSFT or 3rd parties.

So, apart from the fact that we don't have a real proof yet, none here can say that HTC has not built a WM5 platform for the Magician.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] unlockMe:
To add to the previous, if anyone has the understanding of the memory model , the hardware architecture and the components used in the device, they could in theory use platform builder to build their own WM5.0 platform.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tjempeng:
Hey guys lets not fight and keep it friendly here.

And HBK if you read on the first page somewhere in the middle you can read the following he posted:

So everybody shake hands and let us all be patient 8)

Oh yeah... I think i'm the only member with the lowest posts :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Koksie:
On www.HTCclub.net there is a rumor that T-Mobile Netherlands will bring out an MDA Compact and an SDA smartphone with a WM 5 update. It does not state that old phones will be updated, just that a new version of the phones with WM5 OS will be launched. And since the MDA Compact is deleted from the list of available phones for private persons and is only listed with business users, who knows....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
if this is the case, so i think it will be possible to dump the rom on those device if those new devices are using the same hardware as the existing ones.

::adit
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
adit, tjempeng.... Of course you are right, the tone should be kept nice in here. But on the other hand, I am just reacting the same way as I would In Real Life. I politely state my opinion, and then I get told to shut up! There's no way I would back up IRL, and I won't here either...

My counterpart, on the other hand, goes up to a total stranger and tell him to shut his mouth, while speaking in public! If he behaves the same way IRL, I bet you he gets beaten up a LOT! :)

@tjempeng

Yes, I did see that, but it's so easy to get carried away: 'I want to believe!' :) I do so too, and for sure I wish I am mistaken here...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kneeslasher:
I have been watching this thread for days with hoping. I am still not disillusioned: there is hope!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] liusam:
Since the 128M Ram model just launched not long ago, I believed the manufacturer will develop the WM5 version to continue the new device selling. Let's all hope that the silver lining cloud will come earlier!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
Well just keep it cool, we all have a long wait here. Feel annoyed? just ignore it then, I assume if someone tells u to shut up while talking in public u won't suddenly go and have a fight right? We all have the same purpose here: waiting wm 5 for our beloved magician, tho 2 weeks is quite very long indeed :shock: But hey, maybe a theme emulator to look like wm5 isnt such a bad idea after all, i remembered the old days using my jornada 4xx (i forgot) which doesn't have 2002 upgrade and i used pocket facelift. Slower but can't help the eye candy :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Well, if I am talking to peers and a total stranger walks up to me with those words, I certainly won't just ignore it. Neither will you, for that matter... :)

It's such a shame if they won't do WM5 for the Magician. Right now I see no alternative, because the stuff I want is scattered over several devices, not corporated into a single PDA. WM5, Wifi, QWERTY, VGA, GSM, small size factor and the most important thing: GPS! Way too often I leave without my BT GPS.

All in all I really don't wanna buy another PDA until I can get all that in one, and I bet a lot of you guys feel the same way, right?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Bubisch:
Need GPS?

Try this Device: http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2612
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
god dammit that looks awesome
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Yes, the Mio A701 both have the looks AND GPS :) But the qwerty is missing, and most likely also the wifi. Still, if I am forced to buy new hardware to get the new software OS, this is a serious contender.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kta:
Does the Autosensing program come shipped in a CAB file? I really really need this as my MMS never worked on the Vodafone Malta network!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
where did you quote this?

I read thru all off the topic but I cant find the original text in the quote?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Speedn:
the quote is there somewhere like page 2 or 3

yes autosensing comes shipped in a cab called default_SIMAutoconfig1.8.arm.CAB

however it doesnt include malta vodafone as it is designed with UK and AUS devices in mind, so only has UK and Australian providers, and the telstra one i tried takes over your whole system like what providers used to do with IE a few years ago.

SpeedN
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] bnycastro:
I guess I'd wait for the WWE version to be released :) or the WM5 (if the dump is sucessful) :fingers crossed: if not well there is the HTC Wizard :P I wonder when that would be ready???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] :
You need the Universal. :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
or the Mitac Mio 701 ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5806033352&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:NL:31

For teh people who understand it : there's no garantee at this qtek because of WM5 rom installed on it :P

I mailed the dude for some more info.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
But the Universal is so HUGE! The Jam is my first real PDA and I only got it due to its size. There is no way I am ever gonna buy a full size PDA, and the Universal is even bigger! :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Koksie:
Sorry theScrew, I saw his posts on Gathering of Tweakers and he has a 2003se ROM. he misread and thought he had WM5 after an ROM update. see the GoT Magician thread for more info on this.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
saw it too mate ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Well, let us all keep the good work on the translation of the ** NO WINDOWS MOBILE 5.0 OR 2005 FOR MAGICIAN ** thread.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tjempeng:
Well, today it's tuesday !!!

JUDGEMENT DAY ? :roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] nedge2k:
er...it was tuesday last week :roll:

i wish everyone would jus shut the f**k up and wait for it patiently like the rest of us.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Guys, this could happen any time, any place. Look at yesterday's Blue Angel Wm2005 release! They'd all given up.

So, resign yourself to WM2003. If and when it happens, buy that man a drink. But don't hold your breath. And all you impatient guys - fill in the thread about why you all want to upgrade to Wm2005 so that we know what you're missing.

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
vijay555,

Yes, those BA threads sure made some interesting reading! Great those guys finally got their WM5 :)

So... Is this an epidemic or what? Is it very fashionable to tell everyone on message boards to shut up? I don't get it...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] :
I agree, but as far as I know the Universal is the ONLY PDA with everything you want.

What about the Wizard as a compromise? It has more of what you want than the magician.

Pictures of the Wizard here: http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/4149
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tjempeng:
yeah i guess you're right . i asked myself the question why would i need wm5 and i don't really have a good answer for it. i guess it's just curiosity. i'm happy with the current w2003SE i'm using right now so there's no need for me to upgrade.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
If only people stopped spreading FUD,

I get really mad when somebody cames here, tells us something like raptor AND THEN NEVER CAME BACK EVER to keep us informed! Damn.

F*ck this FUD.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
tjempeng - that's the answer I'm looking for!

<rant>

I used the Universal at the Modaco party, and it's nicely functional, but very much a first generation product in my opinion. I think it needs to be made more ergonomic and they need to do to it what HTC did in making the magician - a beautiful package in an astonishing size, compared to the previous generation of products (and wow - look at the blizzard: too small!)

However, you have to think about what the universal does - a lot! And it's designed for people who want a chunky keyboard. I can live without a chunky keyboard. If the Magician had a slide out keyboard like the wizard, or if the wizard is fast enough, that'd be the ideal form factor.

I used to have an ipaq 3650 and it was a pain to carry in my pocket. 6 years later I've got to potentially carry a mobile phone, an ipod and a PDA (and a camera?). I want a "smart" phone. The magician does everything it needs to and cuts my pocket weight down considerably - no ipod required, films in my pocket, PDA functionality etc.

What it needs: VGA, graphics accelerator and GPS. Beyond there, keyboards should dictate size. I loved my Psion 5 keyboard, and think the wizard will be a good compromise. But the Universal - how could I go back to such a semi-laptop, after the bliss of a business card sized magician?

</rant>

I'm going to try a hack to bring some of the thumb friendly WM2005 interface to WM2003. It'll take a while - no promises.

What tangible benefits do Wm2003 users miss from WM2005? Apart from persistent memory, I know it's secure, signed, some interface modification, networking improvements and directx.

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] burnso:
Me too, still thing the 5 was the best pda I've ever owned! That keyboard was amazing! Such a shame that Psion stopped producing palmtops.

Roll on the wizard!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
but it doesnt haveGPS now does it? ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] :
You could plug one of these in: http://tapland.com/reviews/hardware/?id=641

Not sure where you would store your map though as you wont be able to use a memory card with this in place. :?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] raptorz2003x:
back

hello, sorry for my delay, and prehaps loss of hope from many of you. i had an acident in work on a ladder almost broke my spine, nothing major luckly just wont b on my feet for a while. despite this i have maanged to obtain the rom wich i will be sending to buzz tonight. i jsut have to copy it to my laptop and then upload to buz (wil take some time slow connection) hope this helps. see you all soon.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] CoolGadget:
Re: back

Hi Raptor

I hope you'll recover very soon!!

And thank you for getting that ROM for us... Let's hope Buzz can do the needed modifacations for us soon, so we all can try this out...

Buzz, if you need someone to test this on a Magician, I'm willing to help. Just let me know...

Raptor take care my friend and THANKS again!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] nedge2k:
\o/

Nice one raptorz :D Get well soon!

Buzz: I've a fair ammount of experience with WM5 on SP's and know a few people who help that rom come to pass. If ya need a hand lemme know ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
omg, that sucks dood. Hope you will recover soon and fully. Awesome you found the time to fetch the ROM and upload it, I wouldnt have after reading some of people's posts here, certainly not in your condition.

You rock and thanks!!!!

Count me in for testing the WM5 ROM btw buzz :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
Did i say never underestimate us oldies? :twisted: hope u get well soon raptorz all the best.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ramram:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL It's Christmasssssssss hereeeeee!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Pda-usr:
pretty awesome news from you! Hope you recover quikly.

Feel very happy now - so this Thread isnt an fake so far.

Big regards from now to you
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kneeslasher:
Now that's dedication.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
Re: back

hi bro,

hope, you doing well... :o)))

good job, but did you already send it to me or not yet...

It looks like i have troubles to keep up with all that good news poping up around these last days :o)

take care

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kneeslasher:
We really are on the verge of answering that ultimate question it seems! I must have checked this thread a dozen times since I last posted.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] CoolGadget:
Re: back

Hey buzz... did you get the ROM yet?? If so, is it any good?? :?:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ChUcKiE:
If you want more testers...count me in! 8)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ill-tempered:
A ray of light at last! ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] seamus_hean:
Buzz has no idea

Hi!

I am a little bit dissapointed, `cause I asked Buzz if he knows somthing about the WM2005 dump rom. But he wrote, that no one has contacted him. So is this another fake we all believe in? Please not!! Raptor, if you posses the rom, please please please load it up to Buzz or much better to the ftp of xda-developers. We all are waiting of good news.

Greets and become well soon Raptorz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
Don't panic guys!!!

good news here, goods news there.... :o)))))))

i mean :o)))))))))))

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
which means?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Vector:
Yayyyyyyyyyy :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] jackleung:
I assume Buzz mean "someone" uploaded the rom to him already. :o I just want to know if there are any problems with WM5 for Magician. (As there are quite a fews problems for Blue Angle's WM5)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] jackleung:
I assume Buzz mean "someone" uploaded the rom to him already. :o I just want to know if there are any problems with WM5 for Magician. (As there are quite a fews problems for Blue Angle's WM5).

Once again, thanks Raptor for his help and wish him get well soon.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MindBlower2k4:
WM5

So you can confirm that you have got the rom??

When will you release it??

Greatings!!!

This is one of the most exciting days hehe
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] zohaer21:
hey guys.. just got a pm from buzz.. he has the rom and working on it..

so i guess we all can wait patiently here .......

good luck buzzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] JeRoMe_aKa_JaY:
Can I be one of yours :oops: :oops: :oops: ???

thx :wink:

Raptor, take care ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rilazi:
Are you talking about the WM5 for Magician?????
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MindBlower2k4:
yes
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] NightmarE:
me too i want to be tester 8)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rilazi:
That's great guys, I'm happy listenning this and I'm ready to test it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MindBlower2k4:
Please release it quickly hehe i want to test it!

Greetzzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dmmh:
ow my god, Im dying of anxiety here
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Calm down dear!

Anyone got any "rumour control"? What's going on?

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Hehe. There is no reason to calm down for my sake! I really love this intense interest, that people here are showing. It's cool, so keep it up :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kta:
First of all many thanks to raptorz for making this ROM available to BUZZ. What can I say ... awesome!

BUZZ, just out of interest, if the ROM is coming from a Magician, what type of work does it require? The usual country code errors, SIM lock (if any), etc?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] nedge2k:
lol classic :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ThEScReW:
nice job ! i always believed in you ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] LumpiStefan:
Thinking back to the WM2003SE ROM for the Wallaby, there was some device specific things in the ROM. So normally such ROMs are fixed to one device. I think that is was have to be fixed on the ROM. Otherwise you will just get the bootsvreen and the hint, that this ROM will not work on your device....

So, almd down and keep cool. Let Buzz doing "his" work and wait for any official announcement of him.

Stefan
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
it is so, that i just got, let's say, "alert" and a "request", but not the actual THING.

so as we are spread all over the world here, let's just relax and wait...

:o)

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MindBlower2k4:
What do you mean with that?? Alert and request? sorry for the impatiance
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kneeslasher:
I think we may have to wait until final confirmation from Buzz before the celebraions can start...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
:o)))

yes

however, i believe it is 100% true news...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ibanyard:
<refresh> <refresh>....

:roll:

So.... W2k5, now then do I go for the memory upgrade... 2-3 weeks without my unit.... Could possibly live with that.....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
I believe you have more need for the mem upgrade with 2003SE, than with the WM5. WM5 doesn't use RAM to store files, only to run programs. But let's see what happens...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arg0:
Do not upgrade your RAM unless you really need it: your battery will drain faster. For running WM5, 64MB of RAM are enough. See here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/08/19/453784.aspx

I quote: "A "typical" WM5 device will have 64M of RAM. 32M of RAM is very reasonable, especially if the device uses "NOR" ROM (more on that later). Because of the power drain, there are downsides to having "too much" RAM though. And, for that reason, 128M of RAM is unlikely, but may be done for certain "power user" devices.

A "typical" WM5 device will have 64M of ROM as well. Other than cost, there's no downside to having more. So, assuming you can afford it, it'll never hurt to pick the model with more ROM."
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] nedge2k:
bah... ctrl + f5, ctrl + f5, ctrl + f5... are we there yet, are we there yet? :P
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
Re: back

Sounds just great, but exactly HOW slow is that connection? You've been uploading for almost 24 hours now... :?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ill-tempered:
they say patience is virtue...

wish I had it! ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
HBK - this is your rom we're talking about? Have you used it? What are the problems Buzz has been talking about?

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] HBK:
No no, I have nothing the rest of you don't. I was just quoting raptorz2003x's 'coming back' message and wondering about the delay, that's all. :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Thanks raptorz2003x. I really hope this is true :)