yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
Ah! Gotcha. It slipped my mind that the jailbreak for unsigned apps not working in 8.1 is a valid reason for not upgrading, so I was thinking that he was waiting for something to make the upgrade, itself, even easier. Thanks for the clarification.
[Windows RT General] aooga:
[MENTION=1911342]Osprey00[/MENTION] - is there a direct link perhaps :)
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Thanks!. Now just waiting to download the iso. Its taking an age.

EDIT: mydigitallife was hacked...thats why the links are down.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
thanks for the info. was about to search for reasons. hacked by MS? ;)
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Yeah I was clueless why it wasn't working, so I just looked at their facebook page.

Would putting a link like this on XDA be considered warez? If not, can someone who has already downloaded the ISO with drivers upload it somewhere? There is no way I'm waiting till Oct. 16 :)
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
I would appreciate this as well! :) I really want to jump on the bandwagon ;)
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
MDL performed regular maintenance in the middle of the night, which included applying an update to their bulletin board software. Apparently, there was a security hole in the new version and someone exploited it to mess with the board's index, and the webmaster appears to be having a terrible time getting it all back.

Just google "DRIVERS FOR SURFACE RT ONLY___MICROSOFT WINDOWS RT 8 1 WITH OFFICE 2013 RT RTM WOA ENGLISH DVD-WZT".
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Yeah I know:)

Its just taking soooooo long to download. Could you upload it somewhere else like mega?

The torrent has 0 seeders. that might explain things.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
aooga, check your pm

there are more than 60 seeds on the Wzor iso.

It's very easy to inject the drivers into the original iso (drivers are included in the download).

extract boot.wim and install.wim from iso to a folder on your hdd (in my case to c:\dump).

mount one at a time with

dism /Mount-Wim /WimFile:D:\rt\boot.wim /Index:1 /MountDir:c:\dump\

inject drivers (in my case located on d:\rt\drivers)

dism /image:c:\dump /Add-Driver /Driver:D:\rt\drivers /Recurse

commit

dism /Unmount-Wim /MountDir:c:\dump /Commit

do the same for the boot.wim, but in this case do it twice, once with Index:1, second time with Index:2 (one relates to WinPE partition).

comit

once both boot.wim and install.wim are done inject them back into the iso (I used UltraIso). Then write to thumb drive (I used rufus). Make sure thumb drive is fat32 formatted otherwise it won't boot.

you can then install from within RT or boot from thumb drive.
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Thanks. I'll try that if all else fails :) The nearest MS store is 2 hours away. I really dont want to risk anything.

What PM? I didnt get anything.

Its sad really. I had the preview then had to exchange my surface. Now MS has removed the RT preview for some reason.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
nothing can happen with this iso. You just have to remember to have your key ready to activate after updating to 8.1.
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Yeah maybe, but I'm not too great at this stuff. I'll give it a shot. And yeah, I have the key. Are the drivers needed to boot or can you install then after?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
drivers are absolutely essential. you will likely brick your Surface if you try to install without them. Basically the system starts installation and if essential drivers are missing you won't be able to do anything and end up with a black screen and can't do anything.

The drivers HAVE TO BE injected into the iso before you begin!
[Windows RT General] aooga:
Yeah thats what I thought. What is this torrent?

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT

are the drivers are included in the other one (MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.WITH.OFFICE.2013.RT.RTM.WOA.ENGLISH.DVD-WZT)

And thanks for helping me with this, I'm kind of clueless when it comes to this.

EDIT: Ahhh. I found a folder called surface-drivers. That is the one I merge with the iso right?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
as stated in my post above. drivers are included in dl. Let's not clutter this thread. stick to PM.
[Windows RT General] aooga:
I completely got distracted. I didn't even realize I was posting here. Sorry.
[Windows RT General] sebr:
Is there also some way to find out the Product key if you (a) not have any access to a machine running Windows 8 and (b) upgraded your Surface RT to 8.1 preview already (where win86emu won't work) ?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
extract the registry keys and ask a trustworthy friend to do it for you and email him the reg keys. Or roll back to 8.0 if you have the recovery drive.
[Windows RT General] Subsonic44:
Finally!

Just a thanks for the advice here. After a 9 hour download, 8.1 is running well. Upgraded from 8.1 preview and everything appears to still be there.
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
win86emu won't work in RT 8.1 RTM either, its not a preview limitation.
[Windows RT General] netham45:
Any word on rather this will block downgrading to 8.0 or not?
[Windows RT General] windowsrtc:
I have both 8.0 and 8.1 rtm running at the moment.

There is a firmware update in windows updata but I dont install it.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
if you go into device manager you will see that the firmware update will take care of an ACPI device that is currently not recognized. As long as you have the 8.0 recovery disk you will be able to roll back.
[Windows RT General] malberti1993:
anybody know the changes from the preview to this version? That would be helpful.
[Windows RT General] jhoff80:
You can downgrade fine, but only if you have a USB recovery key.

I installed 8.1 before I knew I needed to save my OEM product key, successfully recovered to 8.0, and then upgraded again to 8.1 and activated fine.
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
preview was a beta release. RTM is the actual release. Bug fixes galore (in theory)
[Windows RT General] malberti1993:
Theres no release notes or something like that?
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
Well no. Officially 8.1 isn't out yet. When it is released properly microsoft will probably release the changelist. When it is out properly it will also be available via windows update.
[Windows RT General] callmechewy:
Unfortunately, the requirement to have a specific OS (8, server, etc) kills this for me. Hurry up, October!
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
*edit*

Found a fast enough one :) I'll be tearing it apart tonight :)
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
Can't you find an emulator, like Wine, to run the Windows software? Also, just so there's no confusion, you don't need Windows 8. Any Windows version (well, XP and newer) should do.
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
The windows 7 setup.exe wouldnt launch from WINE on linux mint 11 when I tried that once. Doubt it would work for windows 8.1 either. Although one could just boot from the image anyway...

Just a slight correction, WINE actually stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator. Its a compatibility layer.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
those of you asking about difference between preview and RTM. I had the preview installed and had a number of serious issues.

a) system would not come back online after longer sleeps. had to reboot. fixed

b) system would loose wifi connection after sleep. wlan service had to be restarted or reboot. fixed

c) mail app would not sync after one two days. none of the so called solutions worked for me. fixed

mail app, calendar are up to par with the apps from 8.1 on a regular system. the mail app has lots of improvements over the one in the preview.

IE is much more stable. I had lots of issues with https sites.

Battery life seems better but take that with a grain of salt. I upgraded from 8.0 to preview but I did a fresh install with 8.1RTM, so can't really compare. Certainly no issues.
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
Ok, forget that I mentioned WINE (I didn't realize that Windows needed to be installed in that first), but there must be other, actual emulators that do emulation and can run something as relatively simple as a keyfinder. I found that the very simple Produkey keyfinder works under Win86emu in Windows RT, so it ought to run in other emulators (i.e. ones on MacOS and Linux), as well, so long as they implement a basic registry.
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
This may sound stupid, but I can not for the life of me get my RT key. I've pulled the REG path, imported it into a Windows 8.1 VM. Used Magic JB to grab the CD Key and tried to validate this within Ultimate Product ID checker, but it doesn't find anything?!?
[Windows RT General] sebr:
Installed and activated without problems. But I cannot change the system language to german. While i can select it from the list ist says that theres no language pack available. No problems like that in 8.1 preview. Any suggestions?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
sorry if I write what you already know. just making sure we are checking the basics.

you are getting the two registry keys DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4 from here: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion

export the CurrentVersion branch from regedit and then delete all keys but these two. In my case I renamed the keys in the newly created reg file to DigitalProductIdRT and DigitalProductId4RT. Then I merged them into the registry of my running Windows 8.1 desktop. I renamed my Windows 8.1 desktop DigitalProductId keys first (to protect them) and then the newly merged RT keys to DigitalProductId and DigitalProductId4. Then I used Magic Jelly Bean KeyFinder to get the RT key. Once I got the RT key I deleted the merged reg keys and renamed my Windows 8.1 desktop IDs back to default (basically temporarily swapped the two by two keys temporarily to simulate RT IDs).

Then entered key into pidgen to verify it's a Win 8 RTM CoreARM OEM : DM key.

since you seem to have a key my first guess is that pidgen doesn't know how to handle it. are you using latest?

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For me Deutsch actually appears under Languages and I can set this to my default language - no errors. Didn't realize this until I just checked. I think it got there because I downloaded Wzor's RT language packs and tried to install the German language pack, eventually tried to add it in Office as well.

So, you may need the language packs or wait until Oct 16 when they are available on MS Update.

Prost und Gruesse aus'm flachen Ohio
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
You rock man! Just tried ti again and used thde PID checker and got a Good to Go CoreARM :)
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
Got it installed and up and running. Kept all my files and settings too! Activation went perfectly!! Thank you for the help! Here's to hoping I end up keeping this baby (MKV playback is going to be the real deciding factor for me) since I only paid $200 with the touch keyboard :) Gotta love Slick

Deals!
[Windows RT General] Myriachan:
Does anyone need a version of the product key extraction tool that will run on Windows RT itself without a jailbreak? It isn't actually that hard to make one; it just would take an hour or so of my time.

PM me if so.
[Windows RT General] hinds:
The Surface RT kept all of the settings? Can I assume that you upgraded from the 8.0 and not the Preview?
[Windows RT General] callmechewy:
Would this remove the need to have a desktop running Windows 8/server/etc?

If so...YES!
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
[MENTION=253623]hinds[/MENTION] Yes, I went from 8.0 straight to 8.1

I would also note to run windows update and restart your tab a few times (to make sure the new updates get installed). The install takes a while, FYI, so don't freak out when it keeps rebooting and 'setting things up' haha
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
yep, Windows Update will have two updates, one is a firmware update (ACPI related) and will fix a missing driver in device manager and one is Defender.
[Windows RT General] Myriachan:
I'm not sure. If you can make or download your install image without a Windows PC, and only need to extract your Windows RT product key, then yes, I could help with that. It's only the product key extraction I can help do on the RT itself.
[Windows RT General] hinds:
Has anyone done an upgrade using this ISO?
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
I believe that user DarthVince at MDL has successfully installed with this ISO (see here), if that's what you're asking. If you're asking if he did an actual upgrade, as opposed to a fresh installation, I'm not sure, but others have successfully used the original ISO + manually added drivers to do actual upgrades, and this ISO is supposed to be just that (with the manual work already done for you), so it shouldn't be any different.
[Windows RT General] Subsonic44:
I did. It's been running great for two days now.
[Windows RT General] sebr:
+1
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
never mind. too bad I can't delete my post...
[Windows RT General] Myriachan:
I am honestly surprised that upgrades work. Windows RT 8.1 invalidated all the 8.0 signatures, so old drivers won't load anymore.

I guess that the trick to upgrading, then, is to slipstream the 8.1 versions of the drivers into the ISO before copying to a USB stick?

I'm sure that the RT OEMs are just *loving* having to get all their RT drivers re-signed and repackaged for 8.1. And Microsoft did it just because of the 8.0 jailbreak.
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
I just finished doing it. I upgraded from the original 8.0 to 8.1, keeping all of my settings and apps. It could not have been smoother and it works great.

I love all of the little additions and changes. [EDIT: Apparently, the following is in 8.0, as well--thanks, jessenic--and I just didn't discover it until I installed 8.1] One great feature that takes a little digging to discover is a full 66-key touch keyboard that emulates the layout of a regular keyboard. You have to go into PC Settings (charms bar->Change PC Settings), then Typing and enable the very last option, "Add the standard keyboard layout as a touch keyboard option." Then, on the touch keyboard, press the layout button in the lower right and choose the 2nd option from the right. No longer do we have to switch to a separate page of keys to input numbers and special characters. Also, I've tested it and you can perform shortcut commands, like Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. Finally, there's even a Windows key, so that you can do things like Windows+R to bring up the Run command, which is going to be great, especially in Desktop mode when trying to do work (and you don't want to go to search and type out "Run" every single time that you want the dialog).
[Windows RT General] hinds:
I went ahead and upgraded mine. It was a breeze, once I clearly understood all of the precautions that I needed to take before I dived. I ensured that I had my Recovery Disk, A file back up, my activation key etc.

In the end, from start to update was maybe 30 minutes. Setting up WiFi, Outlook mail accounts probably re-download my apps probably took 20 minutes. It was much easier than I expected.

I elected to keep my user data. I was pleased to find that the app icons where there with little down arrows indicating that they needed to be re-downloaded.

Thanks to all of those whose posts helped.
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
The windows key thing is useful yes, but on 8.0 you don't need to go and look up "run", you can just go to start and look up the program directly, dxdiag and cmd were both correctly searched for me. Still, its a damn useful feature I guess, although I have a laptop not a tablet so I can just use the real keyboard on my system.

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The drivers are kept on microsoft update servers aren't they, isn't it feasible that microsoft kept the 8.0 drivers around in an unsigned form and could have just resigned them for 8.1 without OEM involvement?
[Windows RT General] chp:
I used my RT 8.0 USB Recovery to Reset back to 8.0, then used the ISO with Surface RT drivers already added to install RT 8.1 (I elected not to keep any files.) No issues.

I then created a USB Recovery for RT 8.1, Reset back to 8.0 using the RT 8.0 USB Recovery, then attempted to Reset using the RT 8.1 Recovery.

With the RT 8.1 USB Recovery, if I chose the option to re-do all partitions (which I believe is needed when switching between 8.0 and 8.1), it reports an error. If I choose the option to leave the partitions alone, I end up with a reset RT 8.0 installation.

So, at this point, it looks like the only way to get to RT 8.1 is to use the ISO.
[Windows RT General] jessenic:
The full keyboard was in 8.0 too. You can right click (tap and hold) the Start button on desktop to bring up the Run dialog. Also you can do Ctrl+C etc on the default touch keyboard, it even tells you what each key will do with Ctrl.
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
You're right about the full keyboard; my mistake. Now that I think about it, I do remember seeing an option for "standard keyboard," but didn't enable it because I didn't understand what that meant. For some reason, in 8.1, I decided to try it out. Maybe it made more sense being under Typing than General. Anyways, thanks for the correction. A couple of people thanked me for the tip, so maybe I'm not the only one to not realize that the feature existed.

As for the tap-and-hold on the Start button, thanks for that tip. I didn't think to try that because it's not an action that was particularly useful in past Windows versions. That menu is going to come in handy. I wonder if someone can figure out a way (registry change or something) to make that come up for single tap (left-click), considering that, with the charms bar and the hardware's capacitive button, there are enough ways to get back to the Start screen.
[Windows RT General] sebr:
As some of you already may have noticed: language packs are currently not available (yet) via Windows update. But there is a leaked iso, google "MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.LANGUAGE.PACK-CL1_CL2.AND.LP.RTM.WOA.DVD-WZT". Once downloaded extract the contents of iso and navigate to the folder with the language you looking for. Inside you will find an executable file and a .cab archive. Change the file extension of the archive to .mlc and then install, reboot, done :)
[Windows RT General] pauliusba:
How do you make it update the recovery partition?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
Updating by running setup from the 8.1 installation within RT8.0 will update the recovery partition.
[Windows RT General] pauliusba:
What's the best option if I'm running the 8.1 Preview? Somehow downgrade it to 8.0? I think that my recovery is also of version 8.1 Preview, should I downgrade it too?

I tried refreshing my PC just to see which version of Recovery there was and it said it had been missing some files, though I never tinkered with partitions. When I launched the RTM setup from USB boot, it said something about bitlocker being enabled on the main partition.
[Windows RT General] Subsonic44:
I upgraded to 8.1 RTM from 8.1 preview and it seemed to go fine. No problems in 3 days now.
[Windows RT General] sebr:
Well I was on 8.1 Preview and upgraded to RTM from within Windows and selected to keep my personal stuff. While at first everything seem to be flawless after a few hours I found out that apps were unable to gain permission for the location service. Also the button to enable / disable it was greyed out and there were some errors in the event log that probably related to it. But a clean fresh install of 8.1 RTM fixed all this and since then no problems.
[Windows RT General] pauliusba:
When you freshly installed it, what did u do with Bitlocker encrypted main partition?
[Windows RT General] Globalrebel:
Anyone else get a update pushed to their RT's in 8.1 RTM? Kinda odd isn't it? It isn't even released yet LOL
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
RTM is about as late as it can get before going to manufacturers, but still they have the odd patch to do.
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
It's released to OEMs, developers and IT professionals. They need updates to fix issues that may be hindering their preparation for launch. Also, Microsoft is surely fixing security holes and it would be irresponsible of them to leave all of those OEMs, developers and IT professionals (not to mention all of the people downloading the leaks) with unpatched security holes for over a month.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
There are two updates that get pushed after installation of 8.1 RTM. One is apparently a missing ACPI driver (see previous posts) and the other is Windows Defender, which is updated irrespective of whether you have 8.1 or 8.0. Right after you upgrade you will notice that an ACPI device in Device Manager is missing (exclamation mark). The firmware update fixes it. You will continue getting the regular Windows Defender updates.
[Windows RT General] lukas_ita:
MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.RT.8.1.ADK.KIT.WOA.RTM-WZT

What is this? And how include surface rt drivers into the ISO?
[Windows RT General] lobbie1978:
Install manual for Surface RT 8.1 RTM

Can someone post a full install manual for installing Windows RT 8.1 RTM on the Surface RT? Preferably with the ISO containing all the Surface drivers (Magnet Link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ETYV5QKSSQQQ4CRQGMOJLOSRDZ2ERUHM)

That would be much help to everyone I think :)
[Windows RT General] pauliusba:
Has anyone noticed that some live tiles - Photo, Mail and Skype - are no longer live?
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
wow, nobody clicked Thanks? I didn't need it but certainly give you a Thanks for your great effort!
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
Hardly anyone does when it is deserved on this forum
[Windows RT General] lukas_ita:
I can t download this torrent...why? Who have a valid link for Iso with surface rt drivers included

?
[Windows RT General] sebr:
Make sure there are no spaces within the link.
[Windows RT General] derausgewanderte:
add a point to run Windows Update. After installation an ACPI device is listed with an exclamation mark. Windows Update will install a missing ACPI driver in form of a firmware update and the latest Defender update, a total of two updates.
[Windows RT General] Griffinx:
I had all those issues and thankfully we didnt have to wait another month for MS.. I think it was bad form of them to release a preview in the state it was with no way back if you hadn't taken a recovery.

Interesting signature...Im also running a Lumia 920 ,HP TouchPad dual boot WebOS and CM10 & Microsoft Surface RT :D
[Windows RT General] malberti1993:
SORRY if this was said, but If we install the rtm version can we update it from rtm or do we have to erase and install, like the preview? Also, no one has a link for the iso for rtm rt.
[Windows RT General] SixSixSevenSeven:
Idea was that it was a preview for developers who could probably deal with those issues, not consumers.

Probably a very good idea to make yourself a recovery USB and test it works anyway when you get the device. Better safe than sorry. Hell, microsoft should just bundle them with the RT.
[Windows RT General] Osprey00:
This is a little confusing. Are you asking if you can do an upgrade to RTM (i.e. keep your files, settings and apps)? If so, yes, you can. As for links to the ISO, they're incredibly easy to find. Just use Google and information provided in this thread.
[Windows RT General] malberti1993:
Basically I was asking Can we update from the RTM version to the final build without erasing all our content. Like is it updated via windows update. I know going from the preview to the rtm version you have to erase and start fresh...
[Windows RT General] GoodDayToDie:
A) You don't have to erase and start fresh going from the RT preview to the RT RTM. I recommend doing so, but you don't have to. That's only for the x86/x64.

B) It's the RTM build. Everything after that is incremental. You should have no problem staying up to date with Windows Update enabled.