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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
I wish Verizon had a gsm network also alongside with CDMA so I can use a unlocked nexus 4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
But doesn't the 4.3 upgrade bring along the ability to disable bloat?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
You've been able to do that since the phone was released. It's an ICS feature. Go into Manage Apps, select the app, then Disable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
I think giving the option in the setup wizard to install apps provided by the carrier would be a great feature. I think someone should tell this to Verizon.

I'm still serious about the war on the update schedule thought. Believe me I will find a way to make the Verizon company's life Hell if I have to.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Or buy a phone that's bloat free
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
We all call vzw CS at 7pm est either tonight or tomorrow ?

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You really dont understand this, its the fact that it is possible for the device to have TW 4.3 along with we have a legit query from their systems that they still wont admit to along with the fact that they pulled the inc2 ota that went to the same device the incS but then they pushed an ICS update to the thunderbolt which has the same HW .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
I was pretty mad they didn't push that ota out to the inc2. Verizon should at least say something if you look at the s3 thread on their community forum they stopped responding after a certain point. I got in hold with a tech agent who said he's going to forward the inquiries about the 4.3 update to the social media division who will try to get out a PSA
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Sounds like a plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
Wonder if they realize that if they would just published some kind of response (other than the "we don't know anything, but we'll let you know when that changes" response) people wouldn't be so agitated about this ordeal. They had the exact same reaction on the incredible 2, and their track record really does point to further disappointment for their customers.

More so, I think the pullback might be a reaction from the development on the sprint side for bypassing the Knox bootloader. Verizon is very adamant with wanting their customers to remain "stock" with Root blocked on every corner. Sprint devs figured out the exploit in a few hours, Verizon probably wants to make sure that exploit is blocked...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
I am really sick of vzw screwing it over and really I agree that if vzw were to make a real response that it would actually help than harm their company
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Knowing Verizon, the PSA will probably be something like: "We're not updating your phone because we're idiots who don't know how to push out an update properly and would rather you spend a bunch of money on a new phone instead"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Or something like how the s3 is old and the note 3 is new and better and they will offer like 199$ to switch and free activation xD
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Exactly.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tsachi:
Actually, for black Friday weekend they have free activation and the note 3 is on sale now for $199 :)

Oh, and for those complaining about updates, I came from the thunderbolt.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
I had a tbolt also, oh mannnn
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
Best buy had the s4 free for black Friday only... Figures! Anyways, I'm happy with the s3, just want to have the gear connectivity for my wife's phone... Hence, 4.3... :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] david_hume:
Sad that Verizon always chooses to screws its customers by making us pay a buttload of cash for good service and terrible support.

I'm all for reliable service, but I like my updates too. Can't Verizon stop being a bunch of dicks who claim that they have the most reliable network and actually start supporting the phones on their network for more than 1 major update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
I do have an idea to what you just said. Flood their own forum with that info. That they have the most reliable network and should actually support their phones. Its monitored by them and I've seen it on those forums too they'll respond to those types of posts quicker
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
I can't just up and leave and I won't take the OTA just flash ROMs its based on. But I'm still outraged..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Does anyone have any kernel experience? How difficult would it be to port a sprint kernel? Is it even possible?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
LoL..Warranty........ loss....., BS.

. had VERIzon for 8 years. every phone rooted. 6 warranty replacements One Moto repalced 3 timse, never an issue. they never even check. I've sent many back with custom ROMs, unlocked boot loaders, etc . never an issue.

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Not worth the effort you need a Verizon kernel and matching radio firmware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
It's very easy, reason being that the d2s are almost identical and use the same kernel repos .. Look at github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_Samsung_d2 . they all use the same repo and now pretty much use the same deconfig

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It's actually easy to port the kernels because the d2s are almost identical .. Cm has the d2s using the same deconfig now prettymuch
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
So wasn't someone a few pages back saying he could port the rom easily if someone could port the kernel? More of a last cast scenario, obviously.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
In all seriousness sprint is using atts kernel to fix their WiFi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Hmm. Wouldn't this be an option if Verizon continues to s**t and not get off the pot?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Yeah.. If the ota does not drop by Friday the 6th it would be a good option
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
I agree. If we can get a working kernel, my understanding is the various carrier devices are relatively easy to port over. Main concern is keeping with a cdma carrier, which sprint is... I'll spend time this week looking over the various methods and start working a port of the stock ota (seems to be the most problem free). Let's just try and make sure we don't carry over the sprint wifi bug on the kernel...

The only one we can't port seems to be the international device, because of the hardware differences... Too bad, cause they're getting what they want and when they want it apparently...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
I fully understand, but they are not obligated to update anything, unless there is an issue with the guaranteed services on your contract. That's like saying that because your computer will function with Windows 8 that they should push it to your XP box. For all we know they may have an EOL planned for the S3, as they will be getting the S5 and possibly other manufacturers phones.

It would be nice if they gave us a yes or no on whether they were going to update us, and/or what their support plans were long term. It would be nice to have 4.3, and possibly even 4.4 if the S3 will support it.

I think the constant bombardment of their twitter and CS may actually be detrimental to their releasing it sooner than later... With everyone on contracts unable to back out without cancelation fees, they can sit back watching everyone that wants 4.3 get pissed and be laughing at us... My Dad always said you catch more fly's with honey than you can with vinegar
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
Got some good news from VZW tech support, they do have 4.3 and its in the "testing stage" he said that they are working on the 4.3 update now along side with the kit kat update for the s3?!?! He said they aren't far away from releasing it and within 1-2 weeks they will release 4.3 and they will release 4.4 Q1 '14. This all came from a level 2 tech support agent who looked thru the notes too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Excessiveidling:
I'll believe it when I see it....no insult to you mind you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
That's understandable. Same here...haha I was on the phone for a good 30 mins and he read thru the notes. He also did say they received the update on the 22nd but had to pull it BC of the bugs it had
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
This info is actually consistent with what a user on another forum reported on 11/22, based on a conversation he'd had with an onsite Verizon tech/rep at his company. 12/6 seems to be the target. Makes you wonder what bugs VZW found that don't seem to be surfacing on other carriers' builds?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
"Bugs"... you know they're probably adding bloat to it. At least we can disable most of it I wonder why they even bother with backup assistant plus that stuff IMHO is garbage...most backup apps do the same but its free. And their navigator is garbage. Google maps ftw
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Verizon apps are BADDDDDDD!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Alright, well an expected rollout date on 12/6 certainly makes me feel a lot better. But if Verizon is this bad in the future, because I know we are expected to receive KitKat, I will go to war against them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Bugs like the ability to remove Knox and all the bugs in their sh*t apps but I am starting to believe this tech support guy
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Just remember: if it's Verizon, they'll find a way to screw it up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
I never forget that... They always find a way
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Where there is a well, there's a way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobloblaw1:
To get water.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
I certainly wouldn't count on kitkat unless Samsung is pushing the carriers for that.... Nice to have some information on the 4.3 though. Would've been nice if they posted that for their customers. (sure, maybe they're not obligated to do so, but it sure would be a benefit for their "service" if they did...)...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:


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****, I accidentally put my reply in the quote lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
I so very much wish I had the money for this, the best way to say screw you Verizon but stay on Verizon is to buy a dev edition phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Now if only they made a developer version of every android phone Verizon sells lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
They pretty much do, the S4 has one, note3 is coming, S3 has one etc I think there is an HTC one dev edition
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Motorola is giving us the D .... Developer Edition

why not verizon give us the D

i want the D so bad
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Now I know why your called Mark da PIMP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
Just as an FYI: The Verizon Note 2 apparently did not get its 4.3 update on Friday, November 29, as the memo indicated it would. Verizon is not hitting for average here...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
When has Verizon "hit" for average? :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
Well, they did get the S4 upgrade out "on schedule" (if the leaked memo was authentic) and they did get KitKat out for the Moto X pretty quickly. Don't get me wrong: I'm not apologizing for them. This really sucks. But it does show that they can do it under certain (unknown) circumstances....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Well, let's hope they release the note 2 update soon as well. Personally, I'm just glad we have an expected date for the 4.3 update for the S3 now. I'm okay with Verizon taking their time, I just don't like how they never tell people they're working on it or give us a date or anything.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Krusej23:
This doesn't make much sense to me even though I want it to be true. If the leaked date of Nov. 22nd was true then wouldn't Verizon have gotten the update from Samsung before Nov. 22nd so they could add their bloatware and other crap and do some testing? Unless he just meant it was ready to go on the 22nd and then they found bugs at the last minute. Maybe I'm wrong and just confused.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Seems to me like they want us to get tired of waiting and go out and buy a new device with either 4.3 or 4.4. That's the only reason they are holding onto the update for our 1 year old phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TyZollman:
Did I miss something? Did Verizon give us an expected date for 4.3??
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Yes. Apparently the update should rollout around 12/6, give it take a few days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
How do you figure its the 6th? I spoke to a different agent he said it was planned for the 22nd but now since they're testing it it should roll out closer to the end of the month.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
Apparently a guy talked to an on-site Verizon customer agent who said they were currently testing it, and that the target date of release is the 6th. However, knowing Verizon, they probably won't roll it out until the 12th, or near the end of the month. It should also be mentioned that I am basing all of this on a post that I read a few pages back.

This is officially the longest post I've made on XDA so far...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
This is true. But its Verizon I'm pretty sure Ittl be by the end of the month. The second tech I spoke to said they like to test out new updates for at least a month before they're released
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] allenc666:
Never know, they had the update for almost half a month and probably have some pressure from the public. Best hope's for the 6th.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
Just talked to VZ again the rep called back and told me hes going to get in touch with the software engineers tomorrow with any timeline updates, and is going to call me with any news as to when it will be available. He did say the software is in the final stage and its set to start pushing out in small batches.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Atleast that's some progress on the issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
FYI reps don't know what they're saying its like a sprint rep saying LTE is coming to Hawaii in November just to sign you on the contract.. Well its December where my LTE at?

I won't be surprised if the rep doesn't contact you back or gives you a date
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
Well hopefully he can call back and give a definite ETA. He did say it was in the final stage of testing, now idk where that leaves us maybe someone here may know how close it is from that point?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
Went through this with the Bionic getting ICS. If VZW gets a satisfactory build, it can be just days. With Moto, at least you have soak tests to tip you off when the final build is on its way. With Samsung, we're flying blind until they pull down the old software update page
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
The guy said something about pushing out the update to a few handsets. He didn't say soak test but that's what I assumed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Where do we sign up for these soak test?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
he didnt mention the words "soak test" but he said vzw has started pushing the update out to a small # of handsets. I asked if i could be one of the people to have it pushed out to but he said theres no way he can do that he said its all controlled internally meaning its probably pushed out to random parts of the US.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dunlap92:
4.4 running great on my 535 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Or stop worrying bout it since it really has no adverse effect anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
Maybe you missed the 4.3 title of the thread.

Anybody looking at this thread is interested in an official touchwiz update, not a 4.4 aosp build.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Phone reps, just tell customers things to pacify them .They won;t know anything until management publishes release instructions for the reps to read. No software person at Verizon would dare give anyone, including a Verizon rep any dates unless they want to be looking for a new job tomorrow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
He called back once lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] blestsol:
That deal looks so good... But that camera is really really bad. I may get the LG G2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
I think those of us who are anxiously awaiting software updates and who root and ROM are a very small percentage of customers. Most people I know could care less and/or never even think about ota's.. Most people I know never even heard of the term rooting. That said, we are not a high priority to big red.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Moto said in Twitter the deal is coming back on wed and Mon because they had problems today with maker
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
So the 4.3 update for our Verizon Galaxy S3 is supposed to be pushing out today (Monday the 2nd) to a small amount of handsets, according to what he told you?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BrUhNiGGs:
I literally just tested it now with my s3 running carbon (4.3.1) and another s3 running stock tw and that one is indeed louder and my s3 recording sound is still very low.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hallstevenson:
The bloatware in TW ROMs is probably 2-3x the size of the entire CM ROM !
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] crashercarlton:
Custom kernels for CM based roms allow you use the Trickster app to tweak Speaker, Headphone Jack, And Microphone recording levels...

BMS

KT747

Lean Kernel

Try them out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
One man's bloat is another man's treasure.

Any app you don;t want can be removed or frozen, but really it makes no difference, unused apps cause no issues anyway.

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Most of the custom TW ROMs include these mods too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] crashercarlton:
While i failed to use the reply too correctly, i was referring to people having issues with cyanogenmod's recording volume
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
HTC one is getting their 4.3 with sense. no love for the S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
This isn't even the same company, HTC uses sense and Samsung uses touchwiz. I wouldn't expect them to roll out at the same time anyway. We'll probably get updated around the same time as the note 2 does.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikeman45:
I wouldn't expect to see official update for Verizon until sometime next year. Good news though is we will probably see a leaked version from Samsung before Christmas so they can help the sales of that new watch they got.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tallgrasshawk:
I'd really think that Samsung would be pushing all parties involved to get the 4.3 update out there to expand the market for their watch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Artimis:
Samsung, yes. But I think VZW would be inclined to stall on the S3 update as long as possible (which sucks for us). They would probably try to get the S4 updated ASAP and leave it at that.

The reason being, they will use it as an opportunity to try and get people who are interested in the gear to upgrade to either an S4 or Note 3 and lock them into another 2 year contract.

It sucks as I am interested in the gear and have no desire to switch from my S3. But I can see VZW telling me the only way I can have it is to upgrade and sign a new contract especially if they have some sort of holiday promotion going on.

I agree with mikeman45 -- VZW won't give us anything until next year (they want their holiday sales boosted by upgrades). Samsung, however, may "leak" something for people like us in an attempt to boost their sales.

EDIT: I may stand corrected: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/2...tes-for-gs3-gs4-note-2-and-gs4-active-leaked/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
From what I understand, The 4.3 update for the Verizon Galaxy S3 should start rolling out on Friday, November 22nd 2013. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
Yep.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/2...tes-for-gs3-gs4-note-2-and-gs4-active-leaked/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
It would be awesome if Verizon got a 4.3 Leak like the At&t Galaxy S 3, Galaxy Note 2 & Galaxy S 4 did.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
AT&T GSIII has a 4.3 leak? Wow, that's news to me!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Yup leak was released today by good ol [MENTION=2348906]designgears[/MENTION]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] unhappybirthday:
Will this include the Knox crap that breaks some apps that require root? If so is it easily removable by our TW ROM devs?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Yeah it has knox
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] meskes:
Meh, I want an update from Big Red that's got as much bloat that my 4.1.2 ROM from them did. Thank God for AOSP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
CM 10 AOSP base has a bunch of bloatware in to too. One man's bloat is another;s treasure. Apps you don't want are easily frozen or removed. Doesn't slow anything down. I like all my Samsung features to work so Touchwiz is the way to go for me.

Back to 4.3 , no interesting changes unless you have a Google watch, so why should we be excited.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
The wife and I have an S3 thru Big Red, my son has an S3 with Sprint. It will be interesting to ser if he gets the update on 11/6 .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tsachi:
They are going to send the update to customers with unlimited data first. When the phone crashes due to bugs they offer a discounted upgrade. Oh, btw, you just lost unlimited :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
According to him he said it was to start today. He didn't specify as to whom would receive it. Its going to be randomly sent out to a select few
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Hopefully one of them is on xda lol then ota for all, well knoxless unlocked debloated ota xD
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
Nice, so then if it starts today / tonight it should be in full effect near the end of the week!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
PDF still says mf1 but that is expected being that tonight's push pretty much a "soak test"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Oh boy i hope i get wet tonight!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Haha, also possibly another D reference.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
That would be just like Vindictive Verizon...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Nope its that time of the month period
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
So them pushing it in 1-2 weeks is out? Not Friday the 6th either? They are pushing it out in a small batch? Hopefully someone here gets it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NikoSadie:
Hmmm...

VZW Software Upgrade Assistant is just now pulling down an upgrade

"New software available for Galaxy S(R) III (SCH-I535).

Downloading..."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] david_hume:
Pics or it didn't happen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
Will it be the real deal or another mc3 false alarm? ?

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