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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] n0yd:
Sorry for not reaqding he past 70+ pages of this thread but I have a simple question. I already have one D2vzw thats been rooted and unlocked since 15min after opening. Today I was graved with a brand new in box pebble blue 16GB d2vzw. Now I will be selling this unit but I may end up selling it rooted or unlocked running kitkit or even stock 4.3, nto sure yet, up to the buyer.

But my question is if I upgrade this thing to 4.3 Touchewiz stock rom, will that inhibit me from anyway from unlocking the bootloader, etc? Or are the same exploits still applicable? Thats all I am looking for the answer for.

So if someone can give me the definite on this, I would greatly appreciate it and give you a thanks in the process. :)

Thanks in advance guys :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
4.3 isn't out for our S3's yet. I would stay away from the 4.3 update. Word is that the bootloader will be locked down, so if you want to root, stay on 4.1.2 until a Dev exploits 4.3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] n0yd:
Oh I thought I had read it had been released or leaked,, Not a big deal to me as I always run AOSP based rom anyway. Just wondering for the guiy who wil eventually end up with this brand new device.

Edit: It does look like some people on our devices have gotten the update according to posts in this thread, either via leak or OTA, I have no idea. From what I have heard of other carriers it has lots of bugs :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Nope, no leak. As the thread title suggests, people speculated that it could be released in October. Then it was supposed to release on November 22. It didn't. Now people think today. It's really a crap shoot with Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
f*cking A Verizon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Nbay64:
How much you bet Verizon is just deciding to delay the update every time we get our hopes up?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
The US version of 4.3 has actually been pretty bug free. There were problems overseas (different hardware config), but here it's been mostly ok.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] n0yd:
Good to know, I don't contrib to threads much just lurk about reading asbout new releases to CM and such, thats it really.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
When did you get that 4.3 build? Are you a Verizon employee?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
You can always check here

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/

When it goes live, it will post at that site, Samsung mobile

Our device is the SCH-I535

Still showing the 6-22-2013 as the current release.

You can always download the latest stock ROM there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
That was what I was thinking, maybe a soak test because you can not "fake" a modem flash unless you want a nice shiny brick and as 1 other said like myself the text looks right color wise and the background matches + the font matches 100% ... but its like system dump plz
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Yes that definitely looks legit, he is either a verizon empoyee or a part of a soak test that verizon is pushing out to certain people? Hopefully he gets back on soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Its 100% legit PS wise.. I just pulled it up in PS and no signs of editing. I think he is in a soak test, I would not be surprised if the ota came in the next few hrs or days
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
Guys is it me or are verizon reps today saying they have "no word about the update" ive called a total of three times three times all hours apart. Both regular CS and tech support say they have no word or anything about an update as if verizon did away with the update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Well with that and the picture above I would assume it is coming soon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
i thought so too but i asked tier 2 tech and they also said the same thing even when i asked them about a soak test. They said that do not know about that, or any jellybean 4.3 update at all. Which is weird because when i called through the week they kept saying 2 weeks or its in the final stages of debugging blah blah blah
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
obviously if they are doing a soak test they are going to hide it, look what happened when the motox soak test was revealed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
It's Verizon's Dept of Misinformation!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
that's clever about putting the pic in PS. is photo shop still rather pricey?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
This is what happened when the vzw motox kitkat soak test was leaked http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/18/verizon-moto-x-soak-test-is-ready-is-definitely-kit-kat/

then the next day http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/19/moto-x-kit-kat-update-rolling-out-now-to-verizon-devices/

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Yeah it is unless you are still in school like me, than you can get all the adobe programs as part of creative cloud for $20 a month
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] deuce237bblock:
I think its legit. You can compare it to at&t 4.3 build. I would've thought they would have updated the kernel though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Well let's hope that it's not going to be too much longer...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
GIMP is also good and free but depends on your use. Also i guess we will find out some point next week maybe monday/tuesday if theres a release imminent.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
No date on kernal

Nav bar isn't as transparent as on AT&T 4.3 Legit

its a fake prob build.prop edit

until the person who took the pic scroll down to the Selinux status then ill believe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RyanThaDude:
If the version is correct in the same screen cap why is it only 4.3? Shouldn't it be 4.3.1?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Samsung didn't push 4.3.1 and im pretty sure 4.3.1 wasn;t made
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] RyanThaDude:
So far every 4.3 ROM I've tried has been 4.3.1.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Can't edit your modem version unless you want a shiny brick
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Yes but those are ROM's not official updates :)

Usually .1 or in this case the "latest" android the S3 has is 4.1.2 the .2 means something minor was added and pushed because there isn't really an android 4.1.2 because its easier to put another number instead of going 1 version up you know what i mean?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
HTC and Verizon confirm Droid DNA Android 4.2.2 update http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-and-verizon-confirm-droid-dna-android-422-update - that happened today....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
4 months too late!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
And that's a newer phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jreding:
I don't know if this is something to contribute to the fake department but all phones I've seen say about device at the top of the screen but the top shot says about phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TheDiabolicaL1:
The 5 owners of the dna will be ecstatic!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Verizon changes stuff like that
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
I miss my DNA. Got stolen. Camera quality was fantastic
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] parth212:
Seeing as how vz is being secretive all of a sudden about the update, you guys think there's a possible ota rollout planned for us this weekend?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] danstar:
I highly doubt it....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
You can edit build.conf to reflect whatever you want under about in settings. Will Look like the genuine deal...

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In build.prop there are multiple sections. Modem baseband version can be changed for about without bricking it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
You can not change the modem .... Trust me I know this, go flash the mb1 modem via a dd in terminal and reboot it will change because the modem is pulled via the kernel just like if I were to flash a new kernel it changes in settings but the build.prop is not changed .. Also the same if I were to run a " setenforce 0 " as root in terminal and go back into settings my selinux status would be permissive instead of the default enforcing
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Yes it could be a build.prop edit but too much that makes it look real. The modem, icon colors (greyish white), build number is around the same as others that have mj or mk in the build name & lastly the annoying WiFi persistent notification.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Yes, its definitely coming Sunday . Management decided to release it unannounced , with no notice tp support and snuck it by all the news outlets. That way customer support will be caught off guard and had no idea WTF is in the release.:cyclops:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
They were taking about the update 24hrs ago , now silence.. Sunday or Saturday is very unlikely but in the week maybe
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
And the circus continues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
You mean cesspool lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
The update will come when there's a blue moon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Interesting. I have a few of those in my fridge. By that interpretation, I now believe the update will come next Thursday at 11:56 am. Greenwich mean time. Pause not. (Borat reference...)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
My thing with the screenshot is the device name. Sammy 4.2/4.3 thing. Would be hard to inject it into 4.1.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/06...ace-3-galaxy-core-and-other-low-cost-devices/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
I could be way off and wrong but I thought the way to read samsung builds was that the number is the build of the day(at the end of the build) the letter before it is the month (J, being October) and the letter before being the year (m, being 2013). So wouldn't mj3 be the third build of a day in October? Because that seems old. It should be a build from at least November, correct? But again, I could be very wrong if I'm reading the end of the build wrong and I'd like to see the build date of that kernel. Plus bulls only had one post right being the post of that about screen? Seems kinda weird to me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bulls1969:
4.3

I got the update on 12/4/2013 @ 2:27 a.m. Eastern Time, And I am not a Verizon employee.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Soak test definitely .... System dump plz lol .. I am 1 of 2 that think its real lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I actually believe it now too. I don't think he even knows a system dump is.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Let me see if I can find instructions lol

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You need root to dump =(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
Someone needs to help you get a system dump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
You need root, because you need adb shell to list and pull it

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You literally dd the mmcblks to an image file
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] deuce237bblock:
Can't he just pull the update.zip from cache? Or did that get deleted after the update completed?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
You have a point .. Then remove the bootloader files etc and flash it to a phone with stock rooted with twrp
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jwthompson:
Depends if he's on stock mf1 with root . if he's already flashed it then were out luck till some pulls the update from the cache..until then everyone just wait it out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gwhizkids:
...and the crowd goes crazy with anticipation that there is an actual Verizon build of 4.3 in the wild! :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
[MENTION=5324003]Bulls1969[/MENTION] can you do anything you can to pull the update for us? Really would mean a lot to us. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
There is one other way I can think of .. I think you can use an adb shell in recovery .. So boot in stock recovery and then system dump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kieso:
Its here! Its here! Its here! My case for my nvidia shield finally came. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
Tease
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bulls1969:
My phone is already Flashed to a pre-paid company if I flash or do system recover.. I lose my service completely. I posted the screenshot to show its here or coming.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xbiker321:
Even with 4.4 aosp here I'm looking forward to a stable 4.3 finally. Can't wait :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krazie1:
Can you post more screenshots? Of maybe the settings, dialer, some new apps you noticed etc.

EDIT: You don't have to wipe your phone, just boot into the stock recovery and do a dump with adb

Maybe these instructions can work:

[WITHOUT ROOT ACCESS]

Currently only /system is usable

1) Android SDK (just need adb)

2) Download busybox

3) Command prompt :

> adb push busybox /data/local/busybox

> adb shell

> cd /sdcard/

> chmod 755 /data/local/busybox

> /data/local/busybox tar cvf sysdump.tar /system

4) Ignore tar: error exit delayed from previous errors'. Is done correctly
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Booting into recovery does not wipe ... You have to hit wipe data factory reset to wipe =)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
If he's flashed to a pre-paid carrier, doesn't that mean he got the update from the pre-paid carrier and not Verizon. Other posts in this thread have indicated some of the pre-paid carriers have already gotten the 4.3 update out. Just a thought that he likely didn't get the update from Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
Ha! Watch it be Verizon prepaid!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] allenc666:
But if he updated from a different carrier wouldn't that brick the phone?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
If he got it from another carrier it would brick his phone... Like if you flashed the ATT bootloader on your s3 it would brick
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
I guess I'm confused by the flashing to a different pre-paid company thing. I don't understand why he would still get updates from Verizon if he was flashed to a different pre-paid company.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobAbooE:
That's my thought but I'm basing it on the fact he's flashed to a different carrier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
All flashing to a prepaid carrier does is add your imei/ESN to their database and you add that companies apns to your phone then activate .. It is still a Verizon S3 just like my droid incredible on page plus is a Verizon droid incredible
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lexluthor:
You guys are really desperate and gullible. A guy with no posts comes here and posts a "screenshot", comes back a day later and pretty much gives no real additional information and so many people believe him? If he really took the time to come here and and figure out how to post a screenshot, you think he'd be interested enough in seeing what people say and posting more. Also, don't you think if he really did get this a few days ago already, there'd be some other report by someone that they also have it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
Or, he is one of the majority of smartphone owners who doesn't care about being on the latest version and came to xda for an unrelated reason and noticed a whole thread of folks freaking out about the update so he posted. Could be lots of reasons, including the one you gave.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HF4L:
I didn't believe the screenshot! I'll wait to see a *real* screenshot from a *real* stock Verizon phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mav3rick478:
My 2¢ on the wait, vzw seems to be quietly upgrading their network to allow the 40mhz band, I wonder if that's causing the delay of the update with more testing?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Afro Samurai:
From the screenshots of the leaked AT&T roms I was thinking the same thing but maybe there is more under the hood than I know.

Sent from the S3 of The Afro Samurai
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] meskes:
Define how AOSP and CM 10.2 has a bunch of bloat. The ROM is 4 gigs smaller than Touchjiz.

It *does* slow the system, as a whole. Run a Quadrant benchmark as well as look at you system utilization. It also proves it.

The watch is not the only reason for wanting to run AOSP. The main reason *anyone* should want to run them is security. Security in the regard that as the ROM is updated more quickly, security issues are resolved more quickly. Open Source to the rescue, yet again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Krusej23:
Looks like Verizon could actually be pushing these updates on time. That timeline showed the S4 was getting the update today and it looks like it could be getting sent out today. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/10/2...includes-gear-support-and-actives-lte-band-4/

Maybe that means the S3 will actually get it pushed out on Nov. 22nd.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Will the S3 variants see the new LTE Band 4? That could be something to look forward to......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tsachi:
There are a lot of changes under the hood, good and bad. these include security patches, multi user support, updated Bluetooth protocols (not just for watch support), and reportedly some camera enhancement.

BTW, can we get off the cm vs tw argument here? That is completely off topic and irrelevant. This update is for those of us who prefer, justified or not, the tw system. If you prefer cm, this means nothing to you, we get it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
How quickly do you think root access and unlocked bootloader will happen for 4.3?

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If it's a while, then I'm staying put. But, theoretically I could always flash the 4.1.2 stock image again right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tsachi:
Main problem would be Knox, the new security program. It's not yet possible to install custom ROM without tripping it, although root has been achieved. Good thing about the at&t leak is that they are the guinea pigs. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] aarontsuru:
what's the usual protocol to update. I'm only rooted, nothing else. Unroot, take the update, and re-root (assuming one's able to)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] macman159:
if you unroot and take the update, I do not think you can ever root again, unless someone comes out with a solution. I think the knox is 0x1 filesystem or something like that and we have 0x0. After you take the update you will not get back to the 0x0 one. Also, there is only root achieved as the last post said. Hopefully we can bypass Knox because it is a big obstacle as It is very hard to not trip the security. I only want a bloat-free app and bonestock rom on my gs3 with the 4.3 update or at least let me uninstall the damn apps.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tsachi:
If you look at the at&t side, you can root without tripping Knox, but you can't install custom recovery. So to answer the original question: you will probably be able to remove root, take update, and root again without tripping the Knox (we won't know for sure until the update is out).

Anyone who wants more than just root access (custom ROM, kernel, etc) will probably have to deal with a tripped Knox. That means voided warranty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Excessiveidling:
At this point, arent most of us out of warranty (at least manufacturer) by now? I figure pretty much anyone that posts in xda was either a day one or an early adopter of the s3. Anyways, wait a month if not less and I'm sure the great devs and their minions will have a work around for knox as well. The only safe electronic device.....is one without any electricity!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hallstevenson:
Ask the folks with S4 phones how quickly they got their bootloader unlocked.

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IF YOU ARE ROOTED, YOU ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO NEVER, EVER, EVER TAKE OTA UPDATES.

That is in ALL CAPS on purpose.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/knox-free-4-3-touchwiz-rom-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s-4/

It looks like the s4 version is now knox free
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
I disagree on all points . Everyone has their own opinions.

And after looking at the change list, I give 4.3 a big zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz snoozefest. It will be interesting to see if the custom Touchwiz ROM developers find any nuggets from 4.3 to add to their extended function ROMs, but I suspect that most of the useful mods have already been incorportated
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] aarontsuru:
Thanks all, that's what I figured, but also figured it didn't hurt to ask.... Cheers!

The ONLY reason I'm interested in this update is access to any 4.2+ apps. Not a deal breaker by any means.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] railshot:
I suspect that VZ's long testing times have more to do with them not willing to spend the money on the appropriate sized team rather with being rigorous. That's pretty much in tune with their "greedy because they can" pattern of behavior.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
U

Sorry this new Tapatalk sucks.. Can't even quote properly.

H
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Artimis:
And apparently quotes in the wrong thread :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Don;t worry, Verizon is hard at work.... they also remove features such as Google Wallet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
I know, right.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
Can you show us the build date of the kernel and everything else below and maybe one or two other screen shots?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] smart--phone:
If that guy doesn't reply with pics...

It didnt happen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobloblaw1:
VZWSupport (VZW Support)

[MENTION=1628211]CTO[/MENTION]ncic We're always hungry for new software. No word on this one, but curb your cravings by checking in at http://t.co/lJYHHtgv68 ^EO

2:23 PM Dec 7th via Attensity Respond 5

http://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/409402750925946880

Jackasses.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
Hmm... "Hungry" and "craving" might suggest they're hiding a kitkat update from us... If he said "tasty" and "sweet" that would've been for jelly bean... :)

Fact is tech support and customer service know nothing about the update...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobloblaw1:
Still is fun to bother them on Twitter. Makes slow days go by at work... ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Macrodroid:
+1... How true... :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] redsoxfan2133:
I was bothering the hell out of them on FaceBook. I got the typical, good little employee response of there being no news available. Baaa baaa little sheep.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] K20Z1:
Bulls1969.... Show us something else from the Verizon 4.3 update you got. More screens please. How big was the ota update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
+1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
I have them one more lol with the screenshot xD https://mobile.twitter.com/fender_Zach/status/409565159540408321/photo/1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
I can see it now in Verizon HQ "SH!TSH!TSH!TSH!T that little crap posted a super secret screenshot of the 4.3 build they will get in a year but is ready now... What do we do?" "Remove the photo and stall the guy. Tell him some BS date.. Or don't. I don't care"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
Vzw can suck it at this point ( B==== well you know the rest lol )
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
I could be so much more pissed. But I don't pay the bill so I can't complain. My dad doesn't see the issue (He has an iPhone) and he says every time i complain about Verizon's updates verbally "Shoulda gotten an iPhone"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
More like "should have gotten screwed by apple" lol I just want the ota for fun and blobs xD fk apple and Verizon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dunlap92:
Oh