yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
vivi: are you using the new or old rom? What other apps are you running - you've got a battery meter running, which one is it etc?

As I said, I'm developing on the New Rom, and testing on the emulator. I can't test on the Old Rom on a real phone because I'm too lazy to downgrade. But if I can find out if the problem is specific to the old rom, I'll try to fix it.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Hi Vijay,

I'm using TofClock2.01a WM5 32WWE,it is the latest ROM on buzzdev.net.

The Battery bar is Batti.

http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/

I installed Batti, It's not in ROM.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
I uninstalled Batti and soft reset to test if it is the cause or not.

Still be the same.

Enable 1

SoftKey size 0

startsize 2

trayvisible 0

Here is my lateset screenshot with no plugins and no Batti.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] matheprat:
Try changing the softkey size to 1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Thanks.

But it is the same.

See attached image.

Note : Keyboard icon in first pic is Thai Keyboard icon.

In this pic is Eng Keyboard icon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] matheprat:
Ah nevermind. That worked for me, but I just had the small square of the keyboard showing, and not the soft buttons eather side.

Is anyone else having a problem with background images on some themes not covering this 'new' space? And just repeating themselves?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jinks:
Maybe that's what's happening with mine. I have a 4 pixel or so bar on top of my tray area. maybe it's resetting my theme image. I tried making the theme taller to 340 pixels, but it didn't do anything... It's not a big deal to me, because it really doesn't affect how my today screen functions. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, I haven't looked into the wallpaper issue yet. I started working on the toggle yesterday, but then played Call Of Duty instead, since I was happy to finally finish GPRS on VJVolubilis :)

I'll investigate shortly.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stargator:
Hi Vijay

I installed your Program on my O2 ATOM after going through all the posts

Works like a charm for me , I always like extra space on the screen ,

check my screen shot

Just wanted to know if you have any updates the wallpaper issue , I like to have a full 240x320 wallpaper , will make my ATOM look Awesome.

Thanks a lot anyway for the already working program.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
You can disable wallpaper tiling in the registry. That should sort it out. Don't have the reg key at hand right now, will dig it out later, but have a look around in google.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jpiek:
For those who didn't know yet, if you theme i'sn't really fullscreen:

- Rename the .TSK to .CAB

- Extract tdwater.gif

- rename to .bmp/.jpg/png (whatever works for your editor ;))

- Edit to your wishes, including real fullscreen 240*320 !

- save and rename to tdwater.gif

- repace the file in the /CAB with the new one.

- Rename the .CAB back to .TSK and install on PPC

Enjoy !!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jinks:
I figured that out yesterday too. The only difference is that instead of renaming the tsk file, I already had a custom image that I created for my background on my computer. I made sure the image size was 320x240, renamed it tdywater.gif and placed it in the Windows directory of my pda. After a Today screen refresh it showed up with no tiling. That way I didn't have to take apart and rebuild the tsk file.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, I'm posting a new VJToggleToday II alpha, version 0.1.5.

This has a slight modification to correct a bug that no one else appears to have come across, so that's good, and now contains a preliminary interface for configuration. This release is all still alpha for a while until I'm happy with the feature set. The actual resizing of the screen seems fine according to reports from you guys, so new features will be more bells and whistles so to speak.

The UI is just for playing around with settings.

Command line options are -togglestart, -togglesoft, -toggleall, -config.

They're not accurately described right now, since they won't toggle, but will merely apply settings for each element (start, softkeys or both) according to registry settings.

Use the -config option to bring up the config dialog to change settings without using a registry editor.

"Ok" will save settings and exit the dialog, "apply" will merely apply settings but leave dialog open, and the other two buttons are used to apply just to either soft keys or start bar individually.

Again, UI is far from final. Just to play with settings for now.

FYI - I don't recommend setting the bars > 26 pixels. It seems you can do it, but the OS won't draw the bars correctly and it'll just be a pain to reset the configuration! :(

VJToggleTodayIIalpha0.1.5.exe

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rick GM:
Vijay

The good news - jinks's post got rid of the coloured bands on the today screen - simply renamed my black wallpaper picture to tdywater.gif, dropped it in \windows and hey presto !!

The bad news - the latest VJToggleToday II alpha version 0.1.5 simply opens up an "about" window. You know I'm not exactly Mr Computer whizzo, but that can't be right !!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Aah, I may have changed the command line nature to default to showing the about screen.

Make a shortcut to it, edit the shortcut and stick -config on the end to configure, or -toggleall to fix the screen like in the good ol' days.

However, I'm going home for lunch right now, so will change this behaviour and re-upload within the next hour or so. That's service, eh?

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rick GM:
Lunch as well as programming - can't be bad.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
:D

All done. Please re-download from above. Default behaviour without a command line is to -toggleall.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jinks:
Very nice. It works really well. I love the config options :). Thanks!!! The only glitch I found was if I tried to make the softbar 0pixels the keyboard icon would pop up down there. It's not a big deal. I just set it to 1 pixel and it works fine. Thanks again!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Thanks jinks.

That's quite interesting. It actually did the same thing in WM2003, I'm surprised they've not fixed this "issue", although I suppose the softkeys/menubars were never designed to be resized :)

I've had some new ideas to finish off the functionality for this version, and will finish the interface. But I've been thinking about some very cool stuff for version III :wink:

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rick GM:
I'm afraid that all I get is VJToggleTodayIIalpha0.1.5.exe which launches the full screen. No configurable options.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Rick GM - you can't have it both ways :)

As indicated earlier, I have changed the default behaviour to now toggleall. To launch config, you have to make a shortcut to the .exe with a command line "-config".

My old forum used to have a section on how to create command lines, but it looks like my host has sold his domain! :(

So here's a cached version for you:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...30+vijay555+"command+line"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Hi Vijay,

I hard reset my XdaII (WM52.01 TofClock ROM) and use your new version while not installing any programs.

First the Keyboard icon still be there,but after 2-3 times of soft resetting,it works.

I don't know the keyboard icon will pop up again or not after next soft resetting.

I really love this software and really want to use it,now I can,hope that the keyboard icon will go forever.

Thanks for your kindness.

:wink:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
So sad,the keyboard icon comes after browsing to another page and back to today.No soft resetting.

And after soft resetting,it still be there. :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stargator:
Hi Jinks , Vijay

Thanks a lot , I finally have the screen as I want it

takes a little time to get it right , but well worth the effort
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
stargator: looks sexy! If you did anything special, do you want to post details? It looks good!

Do you have troubles with the Keyboard icon (SIP) popping up?

vivi: again, you are using bar sizes > 0 pixels right?

Do you have anything visible in the tray?

Are you using the new ROM?

I've not used VJToggleToday II for long, but I've tried the same, bar size = 1 and tried to go to calendar, open SIP, go back to Today, and the sip isn't visible (but I DO have icons in the tray...)

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stargator:
Hi Vijay

I am using O2 ATOM with the latest leaked ROM

My process is as follows

Use Catfish.tsk cab from Microsoft site

Use regedit to change the Today screen text color Red

Key is HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Color\4

Value is C2 06 06 00

Used phone alarm latest version for Battery and signal indicator.

I am yet to explore the config option in your program just learning to use the Start bar with just 2 pixels

Nothing else done

Thanks once again for the super program.

Here's the latest screen shot , moved the Phone alarm bar to the bottom
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
stargator: it probably makes more sense to keep PA at the top.

VJToggleToday was originally written to permit me to use PhoneAlarm as a replacement startbar, which is how I configure my Magician. Shrinking StartBar to 2 pixels, make a PA skin 24 pixels high, for the best of both worlds.

This isn't my screenshot, it's Jinks', from here:

http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68798&page=4

but it shows what I mean in a WM5 environment:

VJToggleToday II will (hopefully) shortly have features to make this optional, so you don't have to force it in all apps, but just the Today screen, for those not brave enough :), but I've always preferred it this way.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Yes

Before using Toggle = yes

After using ToggleToday = No

Yes,I use 2.01a TofClock newest WM5ROM.

I try editing the bar sizes to 0,1,2,3,4,5.........,the results are same(I mean the keyboard icon is there or somtimes it's gone but when browsing and back to today it comes).

Maybe it is the ROM itself that is not compatible with your app since there is only me that it doesn't work well.

So sorry.

:(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stargator:
Hi Vijay

I did have a odd feeling with the PA bar at the bottom, Today screen looks fine but the moment I start any application the screen looks odd with the Top part just displaying the time and date

I have reverted back to the timeold location of moving the PA on top

all things are well , but a small issue I noticed , the PA settings screen does not close properly , it just hangs in my O2 ATOM.

I am able to use the close button for all other programs ( that is right hand side edge click closes all other programs , will investigate further and let you know )

Many thanks for the valuble input
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
vivi: this version of the app should not be hiding the tray. What version of VJToggleToday II are you using? Have you downloaded the latest one from above?

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Hi Vijay,

I don't set it to hide the tray.

When it works I see the tray icons in the lowest part of Today screen.

But when the keyboard icon appears,the tray icons are hidden,I think they are behind the lower bar.

I use VJToggleTodayIIalpha0.1.5.

Thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
This is when it doesn't work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rick GM:
Vijay

Thanks for the tutorial - it worked ! :lol:

I feel like a programmer now (I wish)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Rick :) You've been on this forum for year(s), surely the geekness must have rubbed off onto you??!

vivi: no idea. I tried it on the emulator and Universal and it didn't do the same. The tray is likely to be behind the SIP, but without seeing your device or being able to replicate the problem, not much I can do. If I can't find it before a full release, I'm sure the problem will come to light if more people use the program. Until then, not too much more I can do. Your setup looks normal enough :(

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vivi:
Thanks Vijay,you are so generous and kind.

After flashing TofClock 2.02 WM5 ROM for XdaII soon,I will try again.

Or buying a new WM5 PPC Phone.

Really love this software.

:wink:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rick GM:
Not fully but I'm getting there and am really enjoying the journey !!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snakebitten:
I am getting a lower bar after a call. Anyway to get rid of it permanently after a call? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Not at the moment.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DJW:
Is there a way to shrink the softkey bar (keypad icon) in other apps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
I can't speak for other apps, but I've never seen one. However, VJToggleToday II is on pause for a while as I turn it into something more flexible, hopefully to permit this.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] neomuzic:
negative numbers with vjtoggletoday

I'd love to be able to put up to -10 in vjtoggle

0 works great but I can see the Verizon line still.. I think -6 may be the magic number but -10 would definitely be enough.

Thanks vijay!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
neomuzic: you using a Treo?

Once I finish the normal non treo version, I'll investigate which plugin generates the Verizon line and try to kill it... if you know which plugin it is, I'll try to dissect it.

Can you PM me if you have access to EVC or VS2005?

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jamespaulritter:
The todaystart works fine on my PPC 6700 wm5 with the newest ROM but the todaynew is what I really want and it doesn't seem to work. Does it work for other new rom wm5 users?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Both of those apps are obsolete for WM5, now superceded by the VJToggleToday II alpha release. Try that.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jamespaulritter:
Thanks. That worked perfect. I finally got rid of the horizontal scroll bar on the today screen. My absolute must haves were 12 pixels more than what was available. Your program worked perfect.

Found it here http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=Print&client=printer&f=111&t=205413
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Good stuff jamespaulritter, I'd forgotten about that thread, although I always liked the screenshots :)

It's best to find the most recent alpha's on here (I think in this thread, search from here backwards), since quite recently I integrated a config screen.

Work on this is in hiatus, since the alpha does an ok job for now, and then from there I'm re-implementing it into a new more useful (hopefully) tool.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RPG0:
The link doesn't work ! :((

I can't download it... and i really want it ! :roll:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Apologies,

In my foolhardy efforts of setting up my new website, I've had to move my hosting from a windows server to linux, which is now uses case sensitive filenames.

Thus, most of my old links are broken. The new website is not that far off now, but just remember to convert all links to lowercase and they should still work.

eg:

www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjtoggletodayii/vjtoggletodayiialpha.exe

I can't remember if that's the latest version. Probably is.

However, there's another one on my ftp:

www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjtoggletodayii/vjtoggletodayiialpha0.1.5.exe

so give each a go :)

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] RPG0:
Thank you, those links work. I DL them both and i'll let you know how it works out.

PS: really fast reply...

edit: For others who will DL this: they are the same file (i checked binary)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Just goes to show how infullible I am :oops:

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] slimsaturn:
Are there any free aps to edit the short cut with. The only feature on Resco i would use is for this, as I use other programs to handle what it does..

Also are other WM5 users experiencing problems with the changes sticking, (specifically once I change to landscape mode) once I slide the keyboards back away the start bar is there again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Changes don't stick at the moment. For the time being it's a one off modification - the final version will be "resident" and fix itself whenever required. With the old version people used to assign it to a hardware key and on/off it whenever required. You can at least "on" it for now. Off is not entirely easily just yet (toggle feature will also be implemented in final).

For free shortcut editor, I use and recommend gsfinder. I understand that Total Commander is also great.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
vijay555,

Thanks for the great app. I ran it on Dell Axim x51v with WM5 and it seemed to work. However, it cleared out BOTH my bottom (soft keys -> good) and my top bar (where start button and all -> which I don't want).

Is there anyway to have it only clears out the bottom and leave everything else alone? thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
Nevermind..I found the answer...I'm an idiot...I'm going to go kill myself now.

Thanks for the GREAT app!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
Hmm....actually i haven't kill myself yet..cuz there is a problem. The proggy did move the icons stuffs down (getting rid of the WM5 soft keys), however, the area where the icons used to be is a dead space. Is there anyway I can increase the screen to go down covering up this "dead space" ???

See attached screen capture of what I'm talking about (Dead space = area high lighted in RED box).

This is on Dell Axim x51v with WM5
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
randomwalk101: the problem is related to use of the date/time plugin. Unforuntately it's made differently to all other plugins - you see where the scrollbar starts? I don't use the plugin, but of course I'll try to fix the issue in the final release. It just requires me to take into account use of that particular plugin :(

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
I am sorry I asked the same question in other thread which too (WM5). To answer your question, yes, I do see where the scrollbar starts (and where it ends). I can scroll to the top, to the bottom etc...exactly the same way before VJToggleToday II is initiated. After VJToggleToday2, the icons are moved down to where WM5 soft keys are, BUT the area where the icons is now just "blank" or I call it "dead space" since the rest of the screen doesn't "expand" downward to fill up...the scrollbar stops exactly where it was before.

You are right..I use a 4 todays plugins:

PocketWeather,

PocketBreeze,

Resco Todays plugins,

iLauncher

Thanks..looking forward to the final release/fix of this problem. It is really a great now..however, as of now, I'll hold off from using it since I rather have "some use" out of that area rather than "dead space"...Do you have an expected date of the next release? just curious. Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BamBamF16:
I was having an issue similar to this. Everytime my Apache resets it has this blank area at the bottom. I have found 2 things to correct: Open and close the keyboard (forces it into landscape and back) or use a program I found called TodayRefreshCmd.exe. I can't remember where I got it, but it just redraws the today page, and fixes this issue every time. I hope that helps.

Jeff
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
BamBamF16: good idea, I'll try to build function of today refresh into release version.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
BamBam..thank you maime (man) :D ... It works!!! Finally can use the whole screen! This rocks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
actually, i found a better way..just make a shortcut and put it in startup directory. So everytime your PDA starts up, vjtoggletoday2alpha will automatically run BEFORE the screen refresh. an automatic screen refresh will follow and whoala...no more dead space :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oldsap:
How come i have a blue line inplace of the NEW bar?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Can I confirm with any of you guys with the "dead space" issue, are you using the Built in Calendar plugin? I believe the issue is related to the "special" type of plugins (as declared in the registry settings "type" for the plugin). The Treo 700w has the same issue I believe with the Verizon plugin. But in both cases, I'm intending to brute force the dead space in a later release.

oldsap: the blue line is likely to be your new line shrunk down to a pixel or two high. Try clicking on it. It's advisable not to entirely remove the bars - a pixel or two high is a fair compromise of function over space.

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oldsap:
this is my screenshots VJ using toggle NEW and Toggle START:

Im contetnted with the small blue line using Toggle NEW but when i use the Toggle START, the blue line is quite thick.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BamBamF16:
I tried this (in fact I still have it set up this way), but for some reason it still doesn't work until I run the TodayRefreshCmd program. Go figure. LOL, I am glad it works for you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] henk-jan:
Vijay555: I know you are very busy with youre new wonderful job :) but the extra screen at the bottem was great and having changed to WM5 I mis it very much. As soon you have time please look at it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Guys, there is no WM5 version of ToggleNew/ToggelStart. For Wm5 just use the alpha release of VJToggleToday II. When Buzz finally gets off my back :) I'll get some work done on this...

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oldsap:
Looking forward to your next release Vijay :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Now that Buzz's unlocker is finished, I can get back to some real wor :lol:

I'll be trying to tidy up a few new releases soon...

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomwalk101:
How is it going so far?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=295360#295360

Not much happening for a while. I'm being kicked out of my flat :(

Real Life™ is a PITA sometimes...

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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BamBamF16:
The blue line is the top of your wallpaper starting over. with the added screen real estate your current wallpaper probably isn't big enough. I haven't found a successful way to make it work on mine yet either. Hope that helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vijay555:
Oh, I forgot about this old problem. Yeah, just use a bigger wallpaper. But remember, the old version, ToggleNew/ToggleStart are for WM2003. I've been too busy to devote time to the new version over the last month, but hopefully the next month will be more productive!

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