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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DowntownJeffBrown:
Oh you know it pup. That might be my next nexus :cool:

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bozzykid:
Odd? That is called design consistency. For instance the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 are very similar except for the glass back. Google doesn't waiver much when it comes to design. It would make sense they would want the new Nexus phone to have a similar look and feel to the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
It really doesn't make sense too place a horizontal logo on a device that is primarily used in portrait.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Royalfox:
Hmm should I buy the N4?

I live in Mexico and there are few places to buy it, but in comparison to the price on the US its very expensive here.

But then idk if I should wait, I'm going on vacations to Chicago on October 16, is there any possibility that the N5 will be out already and that I'll be able to buy it? Or should I just get the N4 here?

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesebastian:
I was thinking the same thing. I believe it's a prototype.

They could also (but i really doubt this) offer different sizes, just like Verizon's DROIDs.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
That thing looks huge, like a Galaxy Note. The camera lens looks promising, but the phone size maybe too big for my liking, if this will be the final product.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blankit:
That phone looks huge
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
If it will be based on the body of the LG G2 as speculated then it will be a 5.2" screen.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
But like this video the main reason the back is seen by other people is when taking photos or video so it does kinda make sense to have it this way as you cover the back when holding it in portrait for personal use
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blankit:
I'm excited about this but by the looks of things in 5 hears we will need to carry back packs to put our phones in because they will be too big for our pockets.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kendaihou:
Ya I don't wanna carry something as big as a 60' LED TV in my pocket so to speak either

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
The market always dictates. Don't worry phones won't get much bigger
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
Well the LG G2 have pretty thin bezel and similar in size of the S4 so I guess it will be about there. But G2 look just like the S3/S4, boring and cheap plastic design, imo. Would prefer the Nexus turning out with a nicer build. If the spec is similar to the G2 then it should be a decent upgrade especially the 3,000mAH battery and good camera. At 5.2" screen I might stick with my N4 instead.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EuroAsia:
lol.. u have dragon eye..:good:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manpildo:
Typical Google strategy to create buzz. They did the same thing with Moto X.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SupaDupaFly24:
Love the look of this..Definitely getting one first day it goes on sale!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jyuuken:
Having the gnex4 as my first nexus device i vowed to never hold a non nexus device anymore due to the specs dev community and price. **bow
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clusterchuck:
This looks staged to me. Way too obvious of a "leak" . Plus the guy holding the nexus was the only person shown in the video twice, from different angles.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -A-P-M-:
Cool, nice to know that next Nexus is not far away. Can't wait to get one. Also I don't think its much bigger than N4 - it looks bigger because it is closer to a camera.

Everyone know that N4 successor is not far away. It is already almost one year since N4 was unveiled and price was dropped a few days ago - what usualy happens when they are clearing a stocks.

Looks like it has LG logo at a back, also somewhere about 4.4 KitKat I have seen "Edge to edge display." Sony Honami got a huge bazel arround a screen, so no way it will be Sony IMO. Rumours were it will be based on LG Optimus G2, but with a slighty different design (without buttons on a back).
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernandezhjr:
Seriously?? A 4.95" screen vs a 5" screen is a deal breaker?? I'm sure I won't miss that .05 of an inch that much.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TKardinal:
No, as I said I was comparing the 5" to the 5.2" of the G2.

And like I said, one factor is no big deal. Four downgrades? Starts to get disappointing.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
I compared the GS4 5" to the GS2 5.2 side by side yesterday and surprisingly the 0.2 difference was substantial to me. I guess that's why LG went to so much trouble to put the buttons on the back

Edit: keep in mind the larger the screen gets the more that a small change affects the total screen area.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
I know right, 4 downgrades, geez lets just get an iphone...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fahadsul3man:
1080P screen and 2300mAh battery i hope its optimized =[
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
The Nexus 4 next to the Nexus 5, and on it. As you can see while keeping the same size, even same screen width as the N4 4.7" is 5:3, it's the screen height increases adjusting to 5" & 16:9.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mikulec:
Move along, nothing to see here. :eek:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
Sorry don't quite get it. What are using for your assumed N5 screen size in this analysis?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hikarugo:
4 downgrades but there are upgrades too such as the better & latest software and phone look & material. All at far lower price
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernandezhjr:
Seriously?? Compare the new Nexus to the current Nexus and it will be all upgrades. You are comparing to a different phone that comes at a higher cost. Do you really expect Google/LG to give you everything the G2 has at the Nexus price? If you want all the specs the G2 has, pony up and get the G2.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fkloznica:
The biggest disappointment here is battery.. It has about 10% more capacity but it has 6 % bigger screen ,full hd and a power hungry andreo 330 gpu.. Bad move from google.. 2600mah has to be the minimum on this hw
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SinisterSHO:
That's not what she said..?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cream$ickleHJ:
Only thing i like is the bottom speakers, everything else is not needed, plus i feel bad for that tiny 2300mah battery being overused with those specs,..and people will overclock to 2.8ghz and all hell will break loose, it wont be cracked screens but exploding phones, ill be waiting for next years Nexus since its only a year away and time flies faster than a MLB pitch
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
I'm waiting too...2300 is discouraging. :banghead:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TKardinal:
Those bottom speakers do look sweet.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernandezhjr:
I assumed the disappointment was in comparison to the anticipated 5" screen and not a totally different phone. The current Nexus has a 4.7" screen and the new Nexus will likely come in just under 5". That is an upgrade, not a downgrade, even if it comes in short of some people's wishes.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
It has the same size battery as the HTC ONE and that does just fine!

Also the Snapdragon 800 uses a lot less battery compared to the Snapdragon 600 inside the HTC ONE.

Plus you get the latest OS and optimisations

Plus you get no bloat

What you worried for?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
Because these people don't know any better.

They don't bother to look into anything more than reading specs off a box / list. Or some dopey clueless reviewers on YouTube that read the specs in the video.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
I can't believe what I have read in the last few pages. Most of you guys are nuts. :what:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
HTC One has much worse battery life than G2.

Unless Google make some magic on the sw side, N5 will be worse as well.

A pity because the G2 finally looks to have a decent battery life for power users.

I would have exchanged half of a millimeter thickness for battery life.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peachpuff:
I want a bigger battery/camera/screen.

Get the G2.

No! I want the nexus5 to have that.

Get the G2!

NO!!!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
All phones have a worse battery life than the G2 it seems - this doesn't mean all the rest suddenly offer poor battery.

You could always just get the G2 if this is such a concern of yours.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fkloznica:
Jes but when you play a game andreo 330 uses more battery then 320.. Check out a in depth review of g2.. And htc has a 4.7 screen..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
Well maybe because the manufacturer, who has an even larger version of the same screen technology in their own g2 flagship, chose to go with a 3000mah.

I guess they just wanted to waste money or needlessly raise the cost? Or maybe they just don't know squat about their own hardware?

I think the problem here is that many people (in this thread) want this phone so badly that they are actually offended about anyone offering any criticism. Hey I want it also but its just possibly that an honest, open, discussion of pros/cons could change my mind. If that happens than its better than a blind, rose-colored fantasy phone that you later realize was strictly an emotional purchase.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
Get the G2 is a very poor and useless comment.

I badly want the N5 (for a number of reasons), and I hope it to be as much close to my needs as I'm dreaming of now!

One of my needs is outstanding battery life (not battery size). Good is not enough!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmcr87:
Regards to all people in this forum. I have an Xperia Arc and counting down the days to buy the new nexus. I´m bored of lag and the sony update "down-date" to ics full of bugs
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
Let's dream for a couple of weeks more mate!!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisjcks:
Simple - don't want it - don't get it!

I also wanted it to be 16gb Max to keep those moaners moaning. LOL

Geez - you guys are unbelievable.

This phone doesn't have 3gb RAM like the note3 either....

Or Sony's 20.7mp camera either....

Sounds to me like you guys shouldn't get the Nexus - the spec sheet is really important to you.

It won't have LGs UI or OS version either - dammit. (No knock knock!)

It won't have the price of the G2 either.

Yes - this post stinks of sarcasm - as it's boring listening to people moan about a device that's not even announced.

.... And even then - there are other choices out there if this one isn't for you.

Where are all these other phones at this price, offering these specs and the latest software?

Exactly!

#end
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jur1nator:
maaaan...

everybody whining like a little girl about the battery... wait for the tests and then build your opinions... battery life is composed of much more factors then just mah.

and if you still dont like it... buy the G2 or wait and hope for the nexus 6 but stop whining like google owes you something.

i am for one pretty happy with what they seem to be offering and the only thing that strikes me as ugly is that strange round earpiece :S

just my 2 cents :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albundy2010:
The g2 doesn't need the battery it has. It has close to if not the best battery life out of any smartphone period. LG put it in their to have class leading battery. To play the spec wars on a showroom etc. Hell they don't even ship that battery to their home market.

It's not that LG doesn't know their own hardware it's that people on xda and the majority of the mobile tech community period doesn't know a thing about hardware.

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It is perfectly valid response. You want the absolute best battery life then get the phone that has it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cream$ickleHJ:
Actually the g2 has a step battery, that's why it fits in a small package, if Google was smart they would put a 2800mah-3000mah step battery and all would be good. Nope they don't listen
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
If anyone could look at the specs of this phone and complain you're nuts!

It was only about a month ago people thought we would probably be getting a 1.9ghz cpu. To put in 2.3 on the snapdragon 800 goes above and beyond anyone's expectations. Looks like a 32GB version will be available + the 2GB ram, slightly smaller than a N4 yet larger 1080p screen? Now add in pure Android over that bloated G2 (just look at the benchmark comparisons that already leaked) and this phone is a BEAST!

No one should have expected a phone this good at the reasonable price Google will sell this for.

This is the Holy Grail of smartphones.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fkloznica:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=U...eature=player_detailpage&v=F_iLQmPOrcE#t=1687

28:05 on this video..

listen for 15 sec.. andreo 330 eats battery like i eat kit kat :D don't play games whit n5 :D

but, whit all its minuses i will still buy it :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TKardinal:
Pardon my ignorance but what is a step battery?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cream$ickleHJ:
She's annoying
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattyboyo:
It's shaped to fill dead space around the battery.

http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g2-battery-3000mah-increased-battery-density-step-design-253892/
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
The picture provided by the leaked service manual.

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Can it really be worse than the 2:30 battery life when playing Real Racing 3 on my Nexus 4?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesebastian:
1080p gonna eat much more battery than 720p when Playing games....but at the same time the N5 it will have a better GPU so it will be a similar situation to the N4.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
nothing to see here..just drama and criticism..moving along
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cronis:
man so much complaining

First of all the nexus devices are NOT FOR POWER USERS. if your burning through 2 3000 mAh batteries in a day then this is not for you.

Yea yea we know you wanted a hero phone for half the cost and thats what yall are really whining about.

Seriously to hit the nexus price point (assuming they keep it the same or nearly the same) they had to cut corners. What would you have preferred? a 4.5" screen? a dual core CPU? No OIS? a 5MP sensor? an adreno 310? So they decided to cut back on the battery (most dev phones are near power outlets all the time anyways), and an 8 MP sensor instead of 13MP (if your still playing the MP race then you need to read up on small camera sensors). Your apparently still getting OIS though which is very rare in even the most modern smartphones.

So they designed this phone to be what it is, a dev phone and an android showcase. you get a top shelf CPU and GPU. A 1080p screen thats probably as large as most of us want to go (sorry not into the Note phablet craze). And to top if off you get the newest android releases.

Having said all that for the average user (Not talking about the nerds with their faces glued to the screen for 5-6 hours a day, I'm talking maybe 1-1.5 hours of screen on time with 20-30 mins of txt and calls a day) the 2300 mAh battery will probably make it through the day with some juice to spare.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TobiS87:
Nuff said.

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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ensifolk:
+1 - Hope everyone reads this before coming in ' Oh this is the nexus? Sorry I'll go to bla bla bla phone ' - Nexus5/Nexus4 2013, or whatever you wanna call it Google, I don't know you yet, but I'm gonna track you, and BUY YOU !
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gja88:
Wish the headphone jack was on the bottom of the phone. Dunno why they insist on putting it on top. The gnexus had it good.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KoRRo89:
This time I have to agree, charging and listening to music at the same time is a pain with the USB and the jack in different sides...

Inviato dal mio LG-P990 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
Ur saying like it's a geek achievement.

If you have GOOGLE's services synched on a fast network, now/mail/calendar/hangouts/maps/chrome/etc. and if you actually use these services on the pure GOOGLE phone which is why it exists in the first place, 2000mAh burns so fast you reach out for a charger early afternoon. Stop acting like it's normal. Had we all agreed lag is cool, Google would've never implemented Project Butter, only they listed to our complaints.

+1
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
If you can actually weed through the emotions here, there has been a ton of great, research, info and opinions expressed about this upcoming device. Maybe I'm just a novice but I feel like Im really going to know a lot more about the pros/cons by the time it's released:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ferrocene:
The N5 can be literally be a wet paper bag and I'll still buy it. And from listening to these complaints, it'll be a short line.

If you want a $650 carrier locked phone, go ahead and buy one.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corwest:
I bought the N4 with no regrets. The new N5 is better in every way. Including battery = win.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] incantevole:
How durable is the soft sides on the nexus 4 or the back on the nexus tablets? I've used the bumper on my n4 since day one. Would really like to forget about getting a case or bumper for the n5.

N4
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yyz71:
I don't know about these first time Nexus users!!! You want features go grab another phone, You want a bigger battery same thing grab another phone, camera sdcard slot you know the drill grab another phone... Since this is going to be my 4th Nexus I know what to expect... You don't want it fine. I'm sure somebody else will:good: You feel offended reading this oh well:rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cronis:
you saying its normal to burn through two 3000 mAh batteries (the example I gave) in a day from a phone that draws around 70-100 mA while suspended (screen off) 340-400 mA under normal load and 500-600 under heavy load?

Having said that im all for bigger batteries, just you cant expect the best specs from a company thats pretty much selling its phone at cost. I'm actually pretty impressed so far with the leaked N5 specs.

5" 1080p screen

8MP OIS cam

snapdragon 800 CPU

adreno 330 GPU

2GB ram

16GB and 32GB models

AT&T Tmo and maybe sprint LTE bands

all in a package smaller then the N4 and priced around $350 if the nexus pricing trend holds true.

Going to have a hard time finding another phone with those specs from a reputable seller at that price point lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
I had/have N1, N4, N7 and N10.

Can you tell me why shouldn't I write in a rumors thread that my hope is to have an outstanding battery life with the scope of being listened? Larry page declared that battery life and device durability is one of Google priority!

Am I offending anybody?

I use my phone for work, a lot of screen on for checking emails wile travelling.

An other point is that I need storage space because I watch movies during my trips, and where I live data roaming is not an option! When I fly there is no wifi.

Can't I hope to have more storage? Am I offending anybody?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
Did I say that? No.

~2000mAh is simply not cutting average daily smartphone usage. Acceptable is when you don't worry about your battery. If you don't worry about yours, either you have one of the large battery beast, or you're lying, or you are not really using a smartphone as intended.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TobiS87:
Ehm, OK. So master, teach me the only right way to use a smartphone! Seriously: everyone here uses smartphones differently. Some more some less. But you can't tell anyone that he isn't using it correctly because his battery lasts him through the day.

In conclusion its easy: if a smartphone doesnt fit your needs then don't buy it. That's the advantage of the android Eco system: choice.

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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
I'm not sure how many people I speak for but with me at least the low-ball price is NOT the main factor. I want a google supported phone, latest rom, updates etc with the premium hardware features including things like an all-day battery. As dependent as I am on my phone I am perfectly willing to pay the price. At this point the problem is that combo is apparently not available so choices must be made.

If you keep whining about how I should be perfectly content due to price keep in mind, at least with me, its not about price but about having the premiere hardware/software/support combo.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lewythefly:
Doesn't sound like the n5 is for you. Why not get a g2 or note 3 and flash customs Roms and be happy with the great battery life?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
100% agree with you.

For storage space, it would be good to have 8GB cheap version ut to a 64GB expensive one (at least for EU where we do not have unlimited data plan, free wifi on airplaine/trains and fair roaming). This is the only thing I envy in iphone.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
I would love to have either of those phones and I may ultimately go that route. The main issue is that I really like the updates, the rom community, and the tools associated with the nexus line. I don't think they are that good with the phones you mentioned compared with the nexus. But its definitely not a cost issue. Choices:)

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Yes, if the nexus is considered the "great for the price line with tradeoffs" wouldn't it be nice to see a premium nexus line that went head to head with the other flagships. I understand for marketing reasons this is very unlikely.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vittogn:
Unfortunately the best CM experience on non Nexus is not on par of Nexus (my experience is with Samsung GS3 Intl)!

Then AOSP roms take much longer to get stable compared to pure Android!

LG G2 and Sony Xperia Z1 Original Android Development forums are very empty at the moment.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
The right way to use a product is defined by the product.

In our lives we communicate with each other, use mail services, bank accounts, have notebooks and calendars to remember things, save our work and other files, take and share photos, use navigation and reach out for fresh information and some fun. Google says buy our product, cause we offer pocketable solution for ALL of this, cable free. However, midday using their pre-loaded solutions how they intended them to use, and the product turns itself off. Since the LSung Gnote 23 gets through the full day using the same services, the Nexus 4 clearly is in the wrong and making it right is not only not impossible, but should've been done the first place.

So before you start your predictable sarcastic reply, use your brain and go figure this out: if you have to cut the full scale usage of the product cause you worry that the product would make it during your day, is everything all right?