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[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Ok I don't quite understand why some people are having freakin spak attacks about the screen on this Z1, they must be fanbois who are jealous at Sony cos they have launched this EPIC device!!

I have had a few hours with a Z1, it was a demo unit we have had for display, not sure if it's a pre production unit or not but either way I don't care as from what I saw and experienced was enough to make me pre order it and sell my HTC One!

I will note I owned a XZ when it first came out, I went through all that dissing about the screen angles etc and it didn't put me off, it was far too exaggerated imo! Yes I expected a better screen from Sony and yes I felt let down slightly.

Now I put my HTC One against the Z1 the other day and guess what the screen on both devices are awesome, I prefer LCD to AMOLED they look more natural. The only thing I will say is the glass screen does reflect light on the Z1 but which screen doesn't! I put the Z1's brightness up to 100% and imo it was too bright!

Also the demo unit is next to the XZ and I put both up to 100% brightness with adapt screen brightness off and you could see instantly the difference with the triluminous display on the Z1.

Anyway I hope this feedback puts some of those doubts in your mind away :)
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
hopefully the final product has a beautiful display. there's been so much confusion with the display every thing I read lists it as something different. were you able to tell if the max brightness was greater than the m7? or does anyone know the nit?
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Yes it is confusing, I'm not expert and I don't have any tools to give you a definite answer but what I saw from my eyes was the brightness on the Z1 and m7 when on 100% were the same or as close as can be.
[Xperia Z1 General] japjit100:
Sony Xperia z1 vs Samsung galaxy s4 vs LG G2 screen comparison

I think z1 looks best

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BJvWKk_uskw
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
Dont do that, i am sell my GT-I9500 for Xperia z1, touchwiz can kill all, only custom roms are usable.
[Xperia Z1 General] komugi:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-Z1-vs-LG-G2-First-look_id47051

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-xperia-z1-hands-on-04296169/

I'd be

extremely

skeptical of any hands-on of pre-production devices. Wait until official shipment to pass judgement on if it's IPS or TN panel.
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
every article I read/video I watch says something different. I'm pulling for IPS LCD.
[Xperia Z1 General] joejoe23:
I wouldn't care much about what panel they use etc. I would rather go to a store and see it for myself and buy whichever pleases my eyes be it ips or amoled or whatever.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z1 General] darkriderz:
Played with a demo XZ1.... Screen looks just almost the same compared to my HTC One... Love the One but selling it for the Z1.... Go play with it before you judge... :D
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Totally agree, people need to have a hands on first before judging it...I have a HTC One too and I think the screens are on par with each other.
[Xperia Z1 General] rezaswandira:
Exmor RS and G Lens is a totally different thing, exmor is the image sensor while G is the lens. The Z1 also have the RS sensor - even larger one - while original z doesnt have G lens (and bionz as well)

In my opinion, current Z owner don't really need to upgrade to Z1, while another people that plans to buy Z should consider waiting this device as the Z1 have addressed some of Z's issue

Hope that Z1 wont get the black spot on the camera, as i planned to get this phone
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
I took pic using Z1 in dark.. There was no spots/grains on blacks... I did not buy z due to this
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
Viewing angle

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Gives viewing angle comparison anyway... problem is only with more than usual viewing angle... when i checked in normal angle myself i did not notice issues
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
I've got to say that I was more than happy with what I experienced, I see this guys point as it's bound to be one of the most talked about parts of the Z1 following the XZ...but if I tilt my HTC One it's not as vibrant the colours get washed out, but I don't look at things on my phone like that, it's not a TV!
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
The Xperia ULtra is IPS - the final release of Z1 is VA not TN - there is a considerable debate as to which is best between IPS and VA, VA has better Contrast and black levels IPS has very slightly better view angle, most say the VA is better and is used on all Samsung and Sony high end TV's - go figure

Also it was reported that the Ultra black levels were less than perfect = IPS

OP get your facts right before posting here
[Xperia Z1 General] nanasi_js:
what makes u so sad about the "name" of the screen? Most video or thread are misleading, even they are the "writer" from the other brand. Don't buy it if hand on it and you feel the screen sux.
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Honestly, If I want to watch movies\videos on my phone with friends, I'll just plug it on my TV... who really uses viewing angles on a phone? all I really care about is how it looks head on... and based on all the video reviews I have seen Z1 is the best at being looked head on...
[Xperia Z1 General] komugi:
http://www.androidauthority.com/xperia-z1-vs-lg-g2-quick-look-266308/
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
They said it has a SUPER AMOLED Screen, really even if they rated the Z1 better than the G2 in terms of screen, these people aren't to be believed!
[Xperia Z1 General] jlevy73:
Agreed. I'm looking forward to seeing a review from the likes of anandtech. So far everything I've read review wise has been garbage (and most taken during IFE).
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Ok I've had a hands on with 2 different units in 3 and O2 shop! The 3's display wasn't that good and wasn't surprising since it looked like an really early pre production model. Looked very gray at the bottom of the display and overall I wasn't impressed. The O2's display model had much brighter and clearer colours and I was pretty impressed overall.. Much better viewing angles. Hopefully my Z1 is like this :)
[Xperia Z1 General] jlevy73:
At the Sony store here in Beijing they have 3 units, one in each color. One of the screens looks pretty bad, very washed out looking. The other two screens are very vibrant. Oddly enough, one of the units which is loaded with a ton of widgets and apps lags a bit especially the launcher. I downloaded Nova on it and still noticed a little bit of lag when scrolling through the widgets. I haven't been able to break 25.5K on antutu on any of the units at the store while most reviews peg antutu at about 31K. Another thing I've noticed is this device get very warm (much warmer than my HTC One). My guess is the low scores on the benchmarks is due to thermal throttling.
[Xperia Z1 General] Sean473:
Those are pre production units so don't expect magic out of them! Sony better no screw up the production units!
[Xperia Z1 General] jlevy73:
You think Sony Store would be using pre-production units? I checked and it's running the latest FW. Plus here in China, the Z1 is already on sale so I would think they would try to put their best foot forward in landing sales. I'm just speculating, they very well could be pre-production units.
[Xperia Z1 General] komugi:
True, but the general consensus that Sony is using VA screen, where as G2 uses IPS, VA has more vibrant colors/blacks, while IPS has a wider viewing angle.
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
aw man that's not good news. if we get devices where some have off screens and some have ok screens..or really bad overheating :/ I hope Sony gets this right.
[Xperia Z1 General] lee480:
That's obviously pre-production units. If you look at preliminary AnTuTu benchmarks of the Z1 online, it scored well over 30k. Don't worry.
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
I have played with the display model yesterday and the Z1 scored over 31000 in Antutu. Below is an image comparing it to my Xperia Z (just below 20000). Also if you wanna check out my hands on video I attach a link . The display looked really good. It offers more pop than Xperia Z and is a little bit brighter. The viewing angles have also slightly improved although I never really had problems with them.

http://youtu.be/nMDqzFBs1Qg
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Of the two choices I'd prefer VA screen, as said before I don't use my phone like it's a TV, but lets see.
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
Screen comparison

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[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Good comparison, hopefully this will shut some people up.
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Me too, if you give me a choice of better color, contrast and saturation versus, viewing angles... I will choose the former, always.... just common sense... if you want better viewing angles so you can watch movies or videos with lots of friends then connect it to the TV lol I don't want the whole world to see everything I am typing on my phone at all angles... its the same reason I have a privacy film on my laptop...
[Xperia Z1 General] Hobbesfed:
Hmm. I prefer the Sony xperia z1 screen over the HTC one's for all except the frog. The frog on the z1 was simply awful. The others, I felt that the z1 looked much better, though that is my personal preference, so don't flame please.
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
The test should have also included turning off the X - reality mode. Obviously won't affect viewing angles, but would get rid of the software enhancement.
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
I don't know, I think the HTC was alot better/sharper than the z1 all around. but its also a test unit so we still don't know what the final products screen will look like
[Xperia Z1 General] shem2409:
These are the final units.
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
The final hardware will have been 'locked down' months ago. Only the software is likely to change.
[Xperia Z1 General] kosmos55:
i wouldnt be so fast to judge. i was at IFA and i got to play with all the latest trust me the Z1 has a fantastic display, I actually preferred it to the note 3 because the note 3 almost seemed over saturated in color almost like looking at something practically too bright. all im saying is do not judge from these youtube videos because however they are being filmed does not do the screens real life justice. I will be buying both devices. just saying..
[Xperia Z1 General] FinancialWar:
Lol TN LCD???

I truly feel sorry for you Sony people. LCD is already bad enough but not even IPS, damn.
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
I thought IPS was a subpixel arrangement, not a type of screen? like the lgog is an IPS LCD
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
IPS is LCD lol, idiot sammy fanboy
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
What makes me most annoyed is

JDI (Sony,Toshiba and Hitachi) made Most Screen for HTC One

last year Sony made most display for HTC One X

when it comes to own product sony is not using premium displays which is kind of annoying

no wonder they are not succesful on smartphone display is most important part. i do not think they are saving a lot money by using TN display maybe $5 max
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
The 5-inch 1080p display on the Xperia Z1 does not disappoint at first glance. Blacks are sufficiently deep and colours are vibrant; viewing angles are no longer compromised

http://unleashthephones.com/2[....]nboxing-and-first-impressions/

It’s pretty clear that the Sony Xperia Z1 fixes all that was questionable about the Xperia Z and does not present any new issues of its own, making this a Sony flagship that has no glaring issues in the hardware and design department. This, in my opinion, is very promising for the Japanese handset maker considering the sales momentum and brand recognition that was gained with the Xperia Z.

http://unleashthephones.com/2[....]-xperia-z-hardware-comparison/
[Xperia Z1 General] epicfailguy2:
Looks like BVA or MVA panel to me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kpjBqpNNfQ
[Xperia Z1 General] jos_031:
On the one i tested blacks are not too deep...It was not final version but i guess hardware wont change. just see a black pic in dark room on xperia z1 you will get it
[Xperia Z1 General] Maximus999:
110% sure the Z1 isn't using a TN screen. Not even sure that any company still makes TN screens. I know none of the majors do, the last one to do so was Sony (used in the Xperia S) but that production line (Japan Display West) has since been switched to AH-IPS (Z Ultra, HTC One).

In the Three shop it looked like a VA type screen, but GSM arena just reviewed it with a 1500:1 contrast ratio and super viewing angles which means there is an IPS/PLS version out there as well.
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Here is the link incase no-one believes [MENTION=2826451]Maximus999[/MENTION] http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z1-review-983.php
[Xperia Z1 General] matheus_sc:
Gsm arena said Display is good
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Well if the contrast ratio is anything to go by it got a great score, only a bit small than the HTC One...it beat it on the black levels but lost on the white levels.
[Xperia Z1 General] FinancialWar:
The only thing you should buy from Sony are the RX100 and PS4.
[Xperia Z1 General] lee480:
If you have nothing good to contribute, simply don't post. XDA is better off without this kind of contentless members.
[Xperia Z1 General] MouseX:
:eek:
[Xperia Z1 General] DarrenT:
Confirmed where?
[Xperia Z1 General] Foreverbelievin':
;) Well i think z1 is va screen.. when you press the screen hard the screen doesnt restore at once.
[Xperia Z1 General] randomuseresato:
Anyone who thinks Z1 has a TN display should get their brains checked IMO.

Watch this video to get an idea

Z1 and Note 3 playing 4K video
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
I can say pretty safely that it is not a TN screen after seeing my friends dad playing with it(he works at Sony here in Sweden).

Besides who the hell plays a game or reads/writes a reply holding his phone in a 300 degree angle it doesn't make sense.
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
its the screen lottery, means he may or may not get one with VA panel. As long as you are buying from a local store that let you check, you are in luck I guess.

---------- Post added at 09:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------

lol, saw that earlier, Note 3 with extra gig of ram, higher clock speed and newer android still lag compare to Z1. Its 4K video capture is probably super low bit rate and since most ppl will watch those video on their phone to 1080p downsample they wont notice until the day they watch it on a native 4k screen then they realize they got scammed. Yeah, the Triluminos screen blows the OLED away. Probably not the viewing angle though.
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
I hope he can get me one of the ones with a better panel, as I said he works at Sony so he probably knows which one is better and yeah for what its Worth he confirmed that they have been testing several different panels with big differences between all of them - no comment on which on/ones will be used in the final version.

Btw that Note 3 vs Z1 comparison seriously looks good for the Z1, I never understood why people love the Samsung panels
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
thats what years of marketing and pounding info into ppl mind can do. Like when you read all the CNET reviews for Samsung TV, it looks like they barely looked at it and take it for granted that its quarantined good. While with Sony tv the nitpit every single thing they can find. Typical.
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
so far every review done with a retail version of the Z1 has been with a screen equal to or reported better than the XZU.....just saying
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
but its not as good as HTC One
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Well I own a HTC One and imo the screen is as good or is better than the One (btw I've had hands on experience), viewing angles for me don't come as a negative as I don't use my phone at stupid angles....but everyone's opinion is different
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
Yes you are right but Sony makes panels for HTC if Sony wants they can make the best screen its about saving cost unfortunately, yesterday i was in UK at Bolton went to Phones4u store had a look but screen was not good maybe as others say its lottery
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Yes I see your point, it's very frustrating for us consumers....I can only assume it was a pre production handset, as with CPW we got handsets in before the actual launch, so they cannot be retail handsets.
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
i hope that too i was hoping same with xperia z but didnt happen i need to replace my HTC One Bored now:p

LG G2 looks ugly and i dont like their UI same as Samsung Sony or HTC UI cooler and minimal. i really want to have Xperia Z1 only display issue and if they get better panel will buy 3000 mah batter 20mpx camera all awesome
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Yeah we all were...I'm more confident this time after having hands on with two Z1's and being far more happier with the screen.

I'm happy with my HTC One it's just the low mp of the camera that irritates me, the quality is decent but crap when need to crop photos etc, that's why I'm mainly getting the Z1 for.
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
beside from camera HTC One is awesome every phone has their faults but even thouh Z1 feels bit bulky ist superb i hope they use ips panels
[Xperia Z1 General] Junpher:
China retailed version of XZ1 reviews:

Unboxing: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA4NDUzNDA4.html

Screen: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5MDU2NTIw.html (from 8:15, clearly showed that the screen is god damn TFT!!!)

Camera: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjA5NDEzMjUy.html

Not sure if the videos available to you guys outside of China.
[Xperia Z1 General] dibdin:
I own a htc One too. I am looking closely at purchasing the Z1, but what it boils down to for me is the display. If it's as good if not better than I the One then I can see it being my next phone.

Just one thing guys. If I go into Phones4u or Carphone say, and go to buy the Z1 before parting with my cash, if I asked if I could open the box to check the display would they be okay with that?

Many thanks
[Xperia Z1 General] krispijn_s:
If this YouTube comparison is any indication, you might want to keep your money and your HTC.

Summarizing the vids by Sam: HTC screen and speakers are better, but the XZ1's are still good enough (definitely not as bad as some people here would like you to believe). The XZ1 has the One beaten when it comes to general performance and camera. The battery of the XZ1 should last longer, but it appears that noone has tested it so far.

So it really depends on what you need I suppose.
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
Yes agreed, it is an awesome phone.

Well working at CPW I wouldn't see it being a problem, but it would depend on the staff, some get funny.
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
and how stupid is that statement, I'm not even going to go there

The HTC one is a great device but it is early 2013 tech - you could realistically compare it to an XZ or S4 but you're getting into a whole different ball game when you want to line it up with an XZ1 - if you don't agree then put your argument and try to justify - and I want to make it clear again the HTC one is a great phone but it is well out of it's league compared to the XZ1 and even the LG G2

so give it a rest already
[Xperia Z1 General] OMEiAM:
I'm glad the the screen compares to the HTC One (which has a very beautiful display). A lot of people have been talking crap about Xperia Z displays and I was hoping I would be proud of my future Z1 coming from the Galaxy S 4s Super AMOLED.
[Xperia Z1 General] ssj_jaypee:
I don't know why people were complaining about the Z screen. Apart from the less saturation and viewing angles it was still a very good quality screen.

I took these pics a while ago, my Xperia Z against my buddies S4 and the results were very similar.
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
I actually think Z screen looks better than all the S4.....
[Xperia Z1 General] maverick1103:
I agree, the Z looks better especially on the first pic the sky looks better.
[Xperia Z1 General] OMEiAM:
Thanks for this post. I currently have the S4 but pre-ordered the Xperia Z1 and was wondering about how the display compares!
[Xperia Z1 General] ryancnap:
so for people who have the phone right now, how's the led brightness? full rgb? and do the big bezels bother you?
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
The other day my brother wanted to buy a new TV for his new apartment so he came to me for advice because I am the Tech guy and the first thing I told him was to not buy a Samsung TV for the simple fact that it is all bs marketing that their panels and TVs are the best. Seriously though put LG, SONY and a Samsung TV side by side and just dare to tell me that the Samsung screen looks the best.

It's like Samsung wants everything to be brighter and saturated which for some may look good but it is not what the actual content looks like. I was watching Masterchef the other night and just to show my brother what he was really getting into we watched the first half on my LGTV and the other half on my sisters Samsung TV and you could clearly see the over exaggerated colours on the food. I t was like two different plates of the same plate, one was natural(LG) and the other one was so freaking saturated and Bright(Samsung) and Before you tell me to change my TV settings we already tried that and none of the settings changed so much that we could get a nice natural Picture.

The same thing is applied on the Galaxy screens they may look good in black but when it comes to colours it's like they put the saturation to a 150% and left everything as it is. It makes Pictures look awkward and it confuses you when you transfer it over to your PC where you see completely different colours
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
TV makers used to set up their sets differently for different regions. The Asian market always loved high contrast and saturation, while we (Europe and US) preferred more muted colours.

But now things like 'Dynamic' and 'Vivid' probably sell TVs and with the Internet, you can read reviews and watch videos of TVs all around the world so gone are the days of setting them differently.

AV Forums did a good job of starting a campaign to get people to set the colours and contrast properly, not just turn everything up or use the vivid modes that really screw up the picture and make everything look like a Pixar movie - but Joe Public are a weird lot at times. They still see more colours as being better, and it's hard to convince them otherwise.
[Xperia Z1 General] cihanleanne:
Anaother video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rj5bInhLm0
[Xperia Z1 General] hasona:
Yeah my brother is one of those typical Joe's. Its a shame really that people are so brainwashed by the companies marketing BS.

Seriously it's getting out of hand with those Screen complaints the guy holds the phone with a 20 degree angle facing down and then he complaints?? Who the hell watches Youtube or whatever video they want with that angle like seriously? You don't tilt your Laptop screen a 160 degree backwards and uses it like that
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
I guess it cuts both ways.

Fanboys will make a mountain out of a molehill for anything that helps give ammunition.

Certainly plenty of people attack Samsung for their cheap plastic, when the reality is that the GS3 and GS4 aren't badly built, flimsy or creak all the time. There are other reasons to not like the Samsung, such as not liking TouchWiz or all the custom S-apps that are simply there to try and one day migrate people over to TIzen, but it's easier to just record silly videos and write biased reviews.

Ultimately, the customer probably now chooses based on many other factors. What it looks like, how much it costs and how much the retailer is pushing it (which in the case of Samsung giving some people £5 a box as a sales incentive, means the GS4 is still going to sell well regardless of what the competition comes up with) - not the specs.
[Xperia Z1 General] vegetaleb:
What about the sunlight visibility?

I hope this new screen is better than S4 and Xperia Z