[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Ineedtoys:
"Its clear that you're an apologist. Other than that, you're not of much use."

Well, thank you.

"Many of the things I pointed out were addressed in newer models eg lack of proper thought about one handed use. Thus newer deviced have the soft buttons and the OS is now been given some more though to that, though not completely."

Thank you again for pointing this out. Obviously Microsoft weren't aware of WM 2003/SE shortcomings and have been sat on their hands doing nothing for the last two years. Thank goodness they read your postings.

"As for the sound quality, people are STILL complaining on this board about the Magician sound quality."

As do Nokia/Sony/Siemens/Motorola/Neonode users on any board you care to pick. There are duff phones in every range. What's your point?

The first Jam I got was distorted. I got it changed. No big deal. The quality since has been perfectly acceptable - much better than my Treo. Surely you don't expect HTC to fit new speakers to all Magicians, just because they've come up with an improved design? My 2004 car has a reputation for being slightly underpowered for it's weight. Guess what, the 2005 model has an completely new engine. Does that stop 2004 model owners complaining when they run out of torque? Do they expect the manufacturer to fit the new engine to their old cars? Of course not.

"Mean while the Wizard I have heard that some are now saying it is louder than expected."

No pleasing some folk. I suppose you'll complain about that too.

"Again, you were the apologist and I was the one calling a spade a spade."

Ah, yes. a spade=a spade, or the Skagen version of "same difference". Like a "PocketPC Phone Edition" PDA should work just the same as a phone, a Standby button the same as a Power button, Flash memory the same as DRAM. That Contacts details aren't accessible from the Phone screen, and that (free) third party enhancements to the OS are invalid because they weren't supplied (and therefore unchangeable) in ROM. Oh and it must have a bigger screen in a smaller case with a faster processor with longer battery life.

Where "I didn't know how stupid the WM 2003 SE interface was until I actually had one for a while. If its supposed to be a PHONE, you'd expect the OS to be prperly designed for that. and "This OS was designed by a bunch of bozos" becomes "The Jam is a

benchmark

of usabiliy with touchscreen and yet pocketable size. " :?

Welcome to Skagen World.

"So obviosuly I know what I was talking about - because many of the things I said were prioritized as fixes in subsequent models. So if I say going up in size is not a positive, at least I have credibity as someone thinking properly about these things. You are an excuse maker. Period.If it was up to people like you, we'd all STILL be using 1lb bricks with 10 digit display and smiling about it"

Thank goodness you got a Jam for Christmas. Otherwise Palm and Microsoft would never have begun their WM Treo collaboration over two years ago. WM2003 would have never become WM[200]5. And HTC's R&D and QA teams would have been stuck for ideas until you got on their case. How long do you thing it takes to finance, develop, test and release a new OS and hardware spec to market? How much longer for the network carriers to test, certificate, implement support infrastructure and roll out?

You've been told there is a new, slimmer, faster Jam on its way for those who don't want a keyboard. Many other variations will follow. In what kind of warped world do you live in where no one is allowed a choice in the product and functions (and size) they want, product improvement only comes about asa result of your say-so (and only to your spec), and then the suppliers have to deliver this blemish-free - and yesterday?

Or does So if I say going up in size is not a positive, at least I have credibity as someone thinking properly about these things reveal a deeper insecurity? :twisted: