yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Edited the OP guys. It's time. :beer:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
I suggest keeping this thread for discussion. I can make a list of all things if needed to add to the OP. Might as well keep it instead of creating a new thread of the same topic.

If Hash wants to change anything or wants his own thread, I will lock this one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Andrew149:
Anyone know if we can wipe out the stock rom so we can get our 8gigs back? Also im gonna do a backup to my external sd card just in case.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rockshot2:
Only problem is that is also debloated. I want it untouched completely. Will this work? (4.2.2 version)http://galaxys4root.com/t-mobile-galaxy-s4-roms/google-play-edition-rom-for-galaxy-s4/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sykoj82:
I'm so happy! Using gravaton rom...only issue is wifi doesn't work (yet) but gps and everything else works! This is amazing work, thank u hashcode!

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One question though: with "stock" slot activated, should we create a backup or no need too?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Andrew149:
That should work fine.

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Is your gps accurate some people report its off half a mile
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] daveybear:
When we boot a rom do we have to re-download our existing apps for each rom or are they universal for the whole phone? I'm new to flashing roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sykoj82:
Yes accurate for me...except I clicked om voicemail and its lagging so now I have to see if calling works...maybe another bug

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I redownloaded titanium backup amd restored a few apps...no issues so far
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] my-blue-snog-box:
Anyone try editing gps.conf with custom NTP_SERVER?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Andrew149:
Ive only installed recovery, im waiting for hash to release a wifi module so I dont burn up my data.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xerythul:
You CAN NOT flash any 4.3 anything onto a device with mf3 using safestrap and expect anything more than a coaster.

Read people, for ****s sake read before you post. Please and thank you.

ps again I will repeat NO 4.3 through safestrap if you have mf3 firmware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ttdag:
Can someone point me to the right Odin file and MF3 firmware downloads please? I guess I'm going to restore it and i want to go about this right. Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] haremmon:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502003

&

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2504311

Same author. Threads in two different sections.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
Man you found your way to this thread but couldn't look for what you need.not trying to be an ass but damn "xerythul" above you just said for all to READ!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] delachavo:
thanks....

thank you for your strong fiery response, but I am aware of the previously mentioned no 4.3 rule.

the question is, since this is a leak of the official firmware, presumably including updated kernels for 4.3 that are meant to overwrite the MF3 modules*( moving to MJ6), why WONT it work. Is safestrap applying kernels to the rom slots outside of the second kernel reflash that we do? since the included kernels should be compatible, shouldn't it theoretically work on one of the slots, possibly the stock slot only? or would a flash for the 4.3 update probably only function with safestrap uninstalled using an ODIN or Heimdall flash instead? Its ok if the answer to all of this is No, No, No- but i would really appreciate if there is anyone here with the time to take me seriously and explain why it wont work, since we are not talking about a truly custom rom, just a repackage of the stock MJ6 update without KNOX installed (which i have a feeling will end this discussion for the foreseen future once it appears on devices, since it adds even more layers of security to the system files).

thanks in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chevydiva:
Does anyone have a working safestrap download link?? I've been searching everywhere!! Thanks in advance
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] newskin:
This is a bummer. I was thinking I could just go ahead and install cyanogenmod and pa 4.3 as I did with my old s3. Blame mf3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] delachavo:
MJ6

furthermore, could we flash the stock update to the stock slot, then use the remaining slots to upload 4.3 based roms?

i presume that this would update the kernels appropriately, and then provide support for 4.3, though I'm sure that it would still be TW only. Or would this require a new version of SS to support the new installations?

if the stock flash was the leaked update, minus KNOX, then shouldn't it work, in theory?

Once again, its fine if the answer to all of my questions is a flat No, but please explain, I'm trying to support progress here.

also, FYI, i see no difference between a bunch of asterisks and using curse words, lets all be adults (or if you are underage, act like adults at least)

[edit] This is really a question for the dev that opened this thread, or someone that actually understands the background processes involved in safestrap itself....[/edit]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
LOL....I think you hit the nail on the head! Im guessing he wont respond to your questions. Just a guess tho. Quick to flame someone, then in very next post, do exactly what he was flaming about......seriously? Hopefully someone with some knowledge on this can provide some answers, Im curious as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
Safestrap does not touch the kernel, EVER. It has to leave the stock kernel in place in order to pass bootloader checks, as our locked bootloader is still in place. If you were to flash MJ6 through Odin or Heimdall, you'd have to wait for it to be rooted and Hashcode to find an new exploit that works for Safestrap if the last one somehow doesn't work. If that did happen, you will only be able to run ROM's compatible with the MJ6 kernel, as there are still the bootloader checks. Right now flashing the stock update to the stock slot is not possible, due to the kernel incompatibility and Safestrap would not flash the kernel with it. The bootloader might have to be updated too in order to support the new version unless someone finds a way to make it work, which is not as easy as we have no exploit like loki.

TL;DR there is currently no way for MF3 users to flash the stock update through Safestrap, and no way to have SS on 4.3. This is due to the bootloader checking the system for the right kernel and an unmodified system, SS not flashing kernels (that's why its "Safe"strap), and the incompatibility of a 4.2.2 kernel with a 4.3 system.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Makes sense, thanks for in-depth explanation
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Conmore:
Can we expect to see any ROM's that aren't TW Based compatibility for Safestrap?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ddubz:
i337 ucuamf3 safestrap and bobcat rom

When installing and aroma installer asks which kernel to pick does it matter which one i pick? It has like six options and i do know that we are not supposed to install any custom kernels. Can i just choose one and flash mf3 modules after.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] NighthawkXL:
Normally, Aroma will have a option akin to "Stock I337" your want to use that if on MF3 using SafeStrap. After Aroma has installed your ROM you'll still need to flash the MF3 modules to gain full functionality.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
You can try the Google edition Roms if you don't want it to look stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xerythul:
I never took the time to reply further as all of these hypotheticals have been asked, gone over and asked again many, many times. As explained above safestrap relies on the kernel being 4.2.2 so essentially the process is as follows. Update to 4.3 stock, new root exploit for the mj6 4.3 firmware, safestrap update to support the mj6 firmware. Then and only then will it be possible to flash 4.3 roms. I'm just as bummed as everyone else about not being able to go past mf3 right now but don't get upset at me because you asked a question that has already been asked and answered. You either didn't read it, or didn't like the answer and thought you would try asking the same question another way? Long story short though I believe hashcode is working on the kindle fire hd stuff right now among other thinga because there is no publicly known root exploit for mj6 4.3 yet.

Which means because safestrap relies on the 4.2.2 kernel being there for use across all installed roms, and it does not support kexec, you can not change the kernel( I.e. to a 4.3 kernel) thus you can not install a rom based on 4.3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] j510:
So im planning on going back to official stock once 4.3 rolls out. Do you guys suggest I complete remove safestrap prior to updating? Dont have adb shell installed anymore at the moment
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
You don't need adb shell to uninstall SS all you need to do is run terminal emulator with the remove commands on the first page of the SS thread and it will be removed with TE. I'm on 4.3 stock rooted and I love it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xerythul:
Is there a root method for 4.3 now? Or are you a lucky mdl user?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jd1639:
Read this. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42320391
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] FrozenDragoon:
Only.... That doesn't answer the question?

4.3 would be MJ6, right? That's not anywhere in that guide yet.

Edit: From the 4.3 thread. Looks like there may be a root method, but it needs to be verified safe first?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
The problem is it connects to a remote server in China and sends your IMEI to it. According to their Facebook it will be removed in the next version but it sends it along with other device info to get the root exploit for it. This is still suspicious so it is removed for now.

Sent from my SGH-I337 running Foxhound 2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ayeeramos:
Hi guys I tried looking all over the thread because i try my best to avoid asking questions just in case they've been repeated but i haven't seen much about this problem. Well I have safestrap on my s4 AT&T and accidentally installed my custom rom on the stock rom slot in safestrap mode. (I know stupid me) but anyways is there any other way to return to stock? tried looking everywhere for a solution and only solution i found was to go to best buy and have them flash my phone back themselves (trying my best to avoid that). My current Rom is the Google Play Edition so I am in no rush to do this because it is stable.

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Kaze105:
You can use odin to flash stock mf3 from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502003
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 7mada:
How to flash a rom using safestrap ..( please give me a link of the post if it exists)

And can I install cyanogen mod?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
No to cyanogen mod from what I've read. Only TW ROMs. This is explicitly stated on page 1 of this thread. Definitely read.

I would read the 1st post in this thread, and then here's the thread for safestrap from Hashcode... linky.

:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ddubz:
Eclipse rom compatibility

Does any one know if this rom is ok to flash with safestrap and i337ucuamf3

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2351840
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] NighthawkXL:
That is for Verizon it probably won't work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Galaxy*$4:
wrong it does work just use the phones stock apn settings, i am running a mixture of Verizon roms i like wicked but viper audio mod doesnt work. so its back to flashing roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] NighthawkXL:
Good to know ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Galaxy*$4:
guys i need help i cant seem to find the apn settings in this rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2359590 or am i messing something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Just flashed it to check it out and Ive gotta say.....so far, probably the snappiest rom ive tried yet. Havent done much with it, but as for working? yes it works. Also, like somone else stated, it is Verizon so you'll have to create a new APN with AT&T settings
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 7mada:
Sorry, but I can't find how to flash.

Can u tell me how?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 7mada:
For google edition what size should I choose for system partition, data partition and cache?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
I have a 16GB S4 (and a 16GB extsdcard) and I run 2 ROM-slots, both are 2GB, as well as my stock ROM. I haven't had any memory issues using this configuration. That's not to say you won't though, you may download way more apps and have other memory consuming items such as photos, music, etc. Your going to just have to see what configuration works best for you.

Edit: I store anything possible on my extsdcard
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Which 2 ROMs are u using with safestrap?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
I change my ROMS quite often (almost daily), but right now Im running EchoeSLIM V3 and Deadly Venom with 4.4 launcher
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Just have to search.....read.....then read again and make SURE its TW based 4.2.2 ONLY

All your answers are right here in the threads. You will get alot more out of this if you have to read and search for your answers. Im not trying to be an ass, but usually searching for one answer will provide you with many others you may have.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ibroyles:
I just flashed google edition (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2356276) today, and set the system partition at the minimum (which is 1GB).

Taking a look at the phone after booting it up, the system partition is only half full, so it looks like 1GB is plenty of space for that rom.

I went ahead and maxed out the data partition at 4GB, but that's more of a personal preference. I plan on using that slot as my daily driver and don't want to flash any other slots, so I don't care about saving any room for anything else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Also there is a working SS Roms list on the 1st page of this thread. Most have links to them also.

Didn't there used to be an AT&T Echoe rom? The only one I see is a Verizon one now.

Edit: After searching XDA, there is one for 4.3 and that one's pretty new. I swear there was one started around July at least but I can't find it now.

Double Edit: Nevermind. After looking further, I see that one was started in July and probably just progressed to 4.3 now.

Note to self...search multiple times before posting and editing said post.:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
The Verizon EchoeSLIM V3 ROM works on MF3 thru Safestrap and is a great ROM. Just have apply AT&T APN settings.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Safestrap is not intercepting startup

Hi Everyone,

I read this whole thread (all 104 pages) and didn't see anyone that had this problem.

What I did was:

1- rooted

2- installed Safestrap 1.62

3- rebooted into Safestrap (1.62)

4- create a Rom-slot1

5- specified Graviton (from the OP page) (1 of 3), specified 4.2.2 build.prop (2 of 3), specific jflteatt-MF3-modules (3 of 3) to be installed/applied

Graviton install started, asked me several questions (all answered), installed and automatically restarted my phone.

I had expected Safestrap to kick on and finish the other 2 installs (4.2.2 build.prop (2 of 3) and jflteatt-MF3-modules (3 of 3)), but that didn't happen, my phone went right to Graviton.

So I let Graviton start, answered the initialization questions and let it come completely up.

Then I thought I would shut down the phone to finish the installs/appliations. I restarted, again, expecting to boot into Safestrap as I wanted to finish the other 2 installs. Instead, the phone booted into my Stock rom (AT&T) .... NOT Graviton.

So, ok, I went to Safestrap, selected to "Reboot to Recovery". Phone rebooted and went straight to Stock rom (AT&T).

It's like Safestrap doesn't exist anymore.

Any suggestions?

I am on a SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 running MF3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Nothing wrong with asking questions.....its the questions that have already asked a number of times that get frustrating.... and Im not insinuating that this is what your doing. Let me see if I can find something on GoldenEye ROM, I dont think I've tried that one so I'm not real sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
Goldeneye also has a 4.2 version
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Ive found a couple post from people running GoldenEye v8.0 with 4.2.2 TW kernel. Download is under the Older Versions section on the GoldenEye thread

Edit; I cant speak from experience tho, I havent tried this yet, downloading it now, but my internet is slow, so it will be about 1/2 hr or so before I can test this ROM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Yes, I'm familiar with the buttons on left and right. What I'm saying is that Safestrap is not showing up during boot. It's like it's gone.

I tried to simply reinstall the APK, but no difference.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
I see you stated you installed Safestrap 1.62, was that a typo or is that an earlier version of SS? Im assuming you meant 3.62 but I was just checking. Where you able to get SS re-installed after this issue? If so, I would try another ROM and see what the outcome is
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Maybe delete your created ROM slots, remove safestrap, and reinstall safestrap. If done correctly you SHOULD see safestrap with every restart no matter what. Something is not right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Oops, yes, I meant 3.62.

Well, no, I've not been able to get SS re-installed. So another ROM is not going to work.

I wonder if I should attempt to uninstall SS as document HERE then try to reinstall.

If I do this, what happens to the ROM1 I setup? Does that storage get freed up?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] RickHenry:
I think you missed the key point of davebegue's reply. Don't reboot to recovery, just reboot. SS comes into play at the bootloader level, before recovery mode.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
My problem is that I can't get back into Safestrap to delete the ROM slot.

If I delete Safestrap as documented, will my storage for the slot be freed up?

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I did get the point. When I simply boot up my phone (after a powerdown), SS does not kick in. My phone boots straight to my stock system (AT&T). It's like SS is no longer installed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
If he was rebooting to recovery, his phone would go to stock recovery, not boot to his Stock ROM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Yes if you uninstall SS as written, the space is freed up. Try that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Ok, I uninstalled SafeStrap as documented. Rebooted. System booted into Stock, as expected. I (re)installed SafeStrap. Reboot. This time went into SafeStrap. My ROM1 was still there. So I deleted it and will try again tomorrow.

Thanks for the support!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
You have to delete the ROM slot and then uninstall. If you uninstall without deleting then you can use root and a file explorer to do it manually though, check through the /data partition for Safestrap (/data/media iirc)

Sent from my SGH-I337 running Foxhound 2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Ok. I have to admit this confuses me. If I've deleted the ROM slot, what am I uninstalling? Safestrap? I'll review the material on Safestrap before proceeding later today.

Thanks...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
SHOstock with MF3/SS for ATT I337

So have done this successfully and run ROMs with SS, no problem. Can't get SHOstock v2.0/2.3 to work. Flashed 2.0, then immediately after flashed 2.3. All says successful in safestrap. Then reboot, and it shows custom animation of gears moving, etc and the words in yellow/gold of SHOSTOCK on the screen, then it just stays there looking frozen. At the 15 minute mark I gave up and rebooted, tried again and same thing. Then I tried factory resetting and still gets stuck at same place. Help/suggestions?

What would be ideal if anyone who has the same setup as me with an ATT S4/I337 running MF3/safestrap - What did you flash/how exactly, and how did you get it to work? Slot partition sizes?

I've messaged SHO in another thread but I think he's not that familiar with safestrap so I thought I'd post here in hopes to get this solved.

Thanks all.

:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
I'm interested in what you find out. Looking at installing SS and this would be the first ROM I try. But am happy with stock rooted for the moment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] RIPBAP1999:
I can't find it, but I remember seeing it on a safestrap discussion. Does this break MTP? I can't mount my internal or external storage now. I used kingo root and installed safestrap and now I can't see my device on multiple computers. XP and 7. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?

I have odin'd back to MF3 and it still doesn't work. I'm stuck...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
I'll let you know!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
Deleting the ROM slot gets rid of whatever ROM you installed and all files contained it, deleting Safestrap removes the recovery itself only.

Sent from my SGH-I337 running Foxhound 2.0

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Make sure your computer has the right drivers. It's certain ROM's that break MTP, but if it's not working on stock that's a separate issue.

Sent from my SGH-I337 running Foxhound 2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] RIPBAP1999:
I have installed the drivers from samsungs website on three different computers to no avail.. What next?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
I would try reinstalling mf3 again. I've had instances where odining back doesn't always clear everything.