yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
In regards to only installing 1 custom rom, I have a 16GB S4 with a 16GB extsd and I have a custom rom on slot 1 & 2, both over 1GB and I still have over 4GB on phone SD and over 7GB on extsd. You just need to download root browser app (or something similar) and get rid of what you dont need. I moved my titanium backup to my mac laptop and that alone cleared up a ton of space. Be careful what you delete from your stock rom as you may really mess things up. (Im sure that is something you already knew tho) I found a few things in my miscellaneous files that I could delete. I created a file on my extsd card called ROMS and I keep all my downloads there, keeping my phone memory clear for apps and such things.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
As far as a bootloop and accessing a backup of the stock rom. I would assume in a bootloop you won't be able to access recovery, therefore you wouldn't be able to get that nandroid either. The stock rom is in it's own slot and is as you last left it, so essentially there's no need for a backup of the stock rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
You should be able to access safestrap recovery when in a bootloop, even when in the Stock Rom slot. The Safestrap splash screen will appear before it goes into the bootloop....I do believe, but not 100% sure. Someone else may be able to verify this, I hope.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Tremulant1:
I could only assume that it won't mess anything up if you factory reset inside of the stock ROM because the APP is used to write the recovery....once that's done I don't really think there's a reason to have it on your phone, now I could be wrong....can anyone verify?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Hey guys! OP here.

MobileTechVideos will soon be offering a nee service for multiple divices including the S4. It is called EMMC upgrade. Basically we will have the option to go from 16 gb up to 64 gb of internal storage. The price range will be 150 to 200 US dollars. Just a heads up. This is huge.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] NoobDude:
Worked like a charm! A HUGE thank you to all those involved! You guys rock!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Venom0642:
As of now no hash is working on it.:)

Sent From My Galaxy S4 SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 Running On New Deadly Venom v8.2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
No, thats been asked a couple times in this thread already in a future release it may work with aosp/cm/aokp roms. but for now no
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] AFourg:
Hyperdrive rom

Thanks for the 411 on Safestrap. I've used to a few times but have come up with UI SETTINGS Forceclosing. (tried INFAMOUS 4 ROM)

Where can I find/get the HYPERDRIVE ROM to flash via Safestrap on my AT&T S4 on MF3 baseband?

Sincerely,

Drew ...& thanks again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
It's here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301724

From what I've seen most have had problems with SMS and LTE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cyrusalmighty:
When we use safetrap and have extra roms inside the slots are we sharing the data between them?? I mean since I have a rom in slot 1 (Red deadly venom) can I just simply install a game(apk) and play immediately or will it ask me to download the data again? Im thinking we are sharing the data.:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
If you install something for example on ROM slot 1 and you reboot and switch to a ROM on slot 2 or to your stock ROM and want to use the app/play the game you installed on ROM slot 1 you have to install it on the ROM you are on.

From my understanding each ROM slot is completely seperate, there is no data sharing between them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Drew, let me (us) know your experience with this rom while using SS if you don't mind. I'm interested in using it because it's got a lot of AOSP features built in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] humblehyper:
I'm currently on MF3 rooted using Kingo method. If I do the safestrap and install a custom ROM and then decided I want to revert to my original ROM and wipe whatever I did before safestrap. How would I do it? Just manually remove Safestrap? What will happen to the custom ROM? Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xerythul:
All of those questions are answered earlier in this thread or the original safestrap post by hashcode. He has detailed instructions for removing safestrap. And yes it will remove the rom because safestrap is the only thing letting it load in the first place.

sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 running Deadly Venom v8.1.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] j510:
I dont think it would remove the roms. Just the safestrap apk. I think the roms would remain until manually deleted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] humblehyper:
Thank you very much. Just want to confirm everything before I flash it.

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How do you remove the custom ROM then?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nativesmiley:
Reboot back into safe strap then make "stock" slot active and reboot and you should be back into your ROM that you were on before you installed safe strap and then go into your safestrap app and uninstall from there and you should be good to go
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] suavecito1177:
I recently did this and it was pretty easy. I had the Graviton rom installed on slot1. Just boot into recovery and set stock to active, from there you can delete rom-slot1. It will completely erase and repartition as needed. then just boot to the stock rom. Do not uninstall from safestrap as it is not working at the moment. You have to us ADB and manually uninstall. Once I did that I rebooted and all is well. From there i did the full unroot so i can swap it at ATT. Just go into /system/xbin and delete busy box, may have to change permissions, then in Supersu do the Full unroot. Reboot a few times to be sure status is still official and your all good. Hope this helps. Oh and yes I'm running MF3 and Bestbuy was no help and neither was Samsung Tech. support.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
There is also this one, little more recent update, [ROM] Google Edition 4.2.2 [Clean][Slim][280MB][2013.09.07] - there were some problems with the one linked above and safestrap as mentioned earlier in the thread, so I went with this one.

This one has no usb/pc issues, (EDIT - has usb/pc issues with windows) also it uses a Sprint build prop to allow wallet and tap & pay with no mods, but an ATT build prop is provided that you can flash with the rom if you don't care about that (since play store will show it as L720 vs I337). Also note that it is pretty bare (hence the SLIM :), so you will need to install pretty much everything other than the bare essentials :). Anyway, I lik e it so far. Coming from AOKP on the S3 it is very familiar.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Ms. K:
Hi,

This was so helpful to me. I just wanted to get it safely installed where this helps. If you did not choose to install a ROM, reboot into recovery and choose your stock rom and reboot. The RED disabled screen pops up and you are in your original rom. I have a MDL base. My stock ROM now is graviton which I love.

But now I can experiment with other ROMS that I can use with my kernel safely. It's less scary now for me. Don't ever, ever touch your stock rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
I would thank the person responsible for making it possible. "Hashcode"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Ms. K:
Hi,

I definitely thank Hashcode for creating this great system. I have sent him a thank you "thumbs up". I also will be donating to him on pay day. I just wanted to thank Mr. Lopez for his step by step. It was incredibly helpful and made it an easy process for me. I did not mean to disregard one person from the other.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Ms. K:
Loving safe strap

Hi,

I just installed Deadly Venom on my ATT s4 i337. I have Graviton as my stock with Deadly Venon on ROM slot 1. I have read every post under safe strap. I thank everyone for contributing to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
To expand a little, each rom slot has it's own system and data areas, but you will be sharing /sdcard between all slots.

This threw me at first as I saw all these allshare, samsung, tw, etc type dirs on sdcard when in my GE rom on slot 1. So don't start deleting things on sdcard you don't think you need in a slotx rom, as the stock rom will still need these :).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] kitsinni:
Great work with all of this!

I am a little confused on one part, the partition size of the slots. If you give it 3 Gigs is that the entire size for the ROM and all the apps you install on that ROM? I'm assuming whatever storage space you have left will be accessible for storage but I'm not clear if it is available for installing apps also.

If that is the size you are limited to including apps it seems you would have to max it out and then use a ROM that supports moving apps to the SD card.

If that is just the size for the ROM and you have your other internal storage available for apps then it seems like you would want the minimum you need to install that ROM.

Sorry if this has been covered I read every post but I may have missed something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ChefAnt:
So CM/AOSP roms do not function with safestrap?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
wonk - wrong thread...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
I have both GE roms installed and both of them have usb/pc connection issue. did you do something special to get it to work on the clean rom?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
Hmm, not really. I am using linux for desktop os, if that makes a difference. I can try windows also to see if any change. But no, nothing other than flashing the rom and kernal module zip.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mrro82:
No. SS is dependant on the stock kernel. For now at least.

Sent from the other side of the Milky Way with my S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raulz28:
For you guys that are using Foxhound from the international version do you guys have a problem with the LED notification not turning off even when you don't have a notification. My LED notification for hangouts is the one that keeps blinking even when I don't have one and it did it all night which caused it to drain more battery than necessary. I'm just not sure if this is just a bug from the ROM or if flashing with SS and adding the kernel modules might have messed with it. Any ideas?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
does this rom work with safestrap even if you have the mf3 update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raulz28:
Yes works pretty good
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
is this the right one?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2303239
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raulz28:
Yup that's it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] humblehyper:
Thanks a lot!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
It is the size of the /data partition for that ROM, where user apps and things go. The system files and everything are kept separate from those 3GB.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
OK, I do see the failure in Windows (w7x64, with latest S4 USB drivers installed). MPT device driver fails to install. So must be a windows thing.

EDIT - Actually, now that I think about it I get an MPT warning in linux also, but am still able to mount/view the files in nemo, nautulis, abd, etc. as normal. Odd.

So, by inverse correlation, we can assume Aodhan's GE v1.3 rom would work (albeit with the warnings) in linux also.

I may load up Aodhan's also in slot 2 to check it out. I am running into a troubling FC with DigiCalc's widgets in the Slim GE 4.2.2, which I never ran into before on TW or S3/AOKP. Not sure if it is a slot rom deal, or GE deal, or something else altogether.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] spdrasr3:
When if ever will custom kernels be supported? I would love to run ktoonsense like I have in the past.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mrro82:
That's up to Hash. He's the mad scientist behind this. Patience though. Good things come to those who wait.

Sent from the other side of the Milky Way with my S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
Stuck in samsung bootscreen with custom lock

Hey guys, my s4 is stuck in the samsung bootscreen, I cant get past it to get to safestrap.

Anyways, this happened after deleting slot 1 (NOT STOCK) and wiping data/factory reset through Safestrap and then installing Bobcat Rom with some kernel + mf3 modules. Any advice?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Do not ask for ETAs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rayburne:
What were your exact steps?

If you deleted slot one, did you recreate it and activate it before flashing bobcat?

If you recreated slot one you would have also needed to recreate a 1, 2 or 3GB partition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] matthewpapa:
This would be awesome! Finally we could use Cyanogenmod... I read that kexec has been technically possible for sometime.

Still learning after coming form the SGS2 scene, where no locked bootloaders existed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] konaman:
Ok so I checked and I have 4.9gb available space on my phone. When I go to the rom slots let's say rom slot 1. I pick 3gb and I can't tap create slot. It doesn't do anything even if I change the size, it still will not let me create it. I have not flashed any roms at all and have not created any other slots. What is the deal with my phone?

I just uninstalled some updates and all that stuff and it is now going to let me create a 1gb slot. But is that even enough? I'm unsure of the size I'll actually need. I only intend on flashing one rom and creating one slot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
Thanks man but I just took it to best buy and they fixed it. Anyways... looking for a good rom, I am tired of the 4g lte bug in hyperdrive

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anyone knows what Kernel we can choose in Bobcat rom?

Also, weird thing happened. Since my phone was stuck in samsung logo i took it to best buy and they guy flashed the mf3 back on and it worked fine... So I went ahead and root my phone and install safestrap on it... when i go into recovery i notice that the slot 1 is the active one instead of stock.. I still have my last stock rom and it appears that the best buy guy flashed another stock in my slot 1. Anyone knows if i can delete slot 1? lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
In addition to the slot size you choose, you should also notice it is taking space for /system (2800mb) and cache (300mb) for the slot. So for a 3GB slot you will need more than 3GB free. /sdcard is share among all slots. With a bare stock rom, ie fresh with only root and a few core apps added like TiBu and Terminal Emulator, etc, I was able to create a 3gb and a 2gb spot in the free space.

From what I can tell so far, 1GB slot seems plenty for testing or running a Slim GE based rom. A TW based rom with a bunch of Samsung Stuff, etc 2GB is minimum, 3GB better - unless it is pretty slim. If you have a rom you know you want to use as your DD and nothing else, what the heck give it all 3GB. You just have to clear up rom on /sdcard first.

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Yikes. So you have broken rom in stock slot, and BB-flashed MF3 in slot 1? I would not delete slot one, that would just put you back to bootlooping again. I would go back, make sure Stock slot is active, and have them flash it again?

I guess the safest way to prevent it from occurring again would be to remove SafeStrap altogether as noted in the OP of the Development Thread... but dont see how you could do it from anything other than the stock slot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
It would be impossible to flash the Stock MF3 into slot 1 with best buys program. They use something that puts the device into DL mode and flashes that way. I believe it is Odin based. If the guy at BB did actually flash MF3, SS would be gone like what was implied. I think he is confusing something here or ran into a bug.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rayburne:
Exchange with no Security

Anyone get a custom rom with no exchange security to work with SS?

Here is my setup:

Stock slot: MF3 - All bloat that can be disabled is disabled in Settings> App Manager.

Slot one: MDOB. This is where I am trying to get it to work.

Have tried these two solutions that others say are working with the S4:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749921 (using the 4.2.x.zip)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1117452 (this says it's successful. It can't find email.apk but when it tell it to use secemail_J.apk it completes successfully).

I have deleted my exchange account in both rom slots.

There are no Exchange admins (under Settings> Security) in either slot either.

Are there any dependencies on the stock slot for the no security email.apk to work (I would think not)?

I have used both solutions above with other phones successfully before getting an S4.

Any ideas?

SOLVED: Used SecEmail_J.apk and SecExchange.apk from Gravitron and manually placed them in the /System/apps folder, wipe delvik and reboot. Working with no Pin.

The main reason I wanted this is enabling a pin disabled the lock screen widgets.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
Really? cus after i got back and installed SS and booted recovery slot 1 was already active and the partition was created and stuff. I have not yet tried to boot into each slot and stock cus im scared of the bootloop lol and too lazy to take it to best buy a second time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
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nevermind! i just had the courage to boot stock and slot 1. Stock is stock but slot 1 is the Bobcat rom with kt kernel i tried to flash that caused my phone to get stuck in samsung logo boot screen.... its just weird that it boots now. any idea how this couldve happened? i guess its cus of the kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Like I said before. A bug happened.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mg2195:
The program probably just didn't perform a full wipe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rayburne:
If it is a bug in SS I hope he can confirm his exact steps so someone can reproduce and get it reported.

I have a feeling he flashed or wiped something in his stock rom that caused the issue.

I haven't yet but I have read several others confirm they have deleted Rom Slots and recreated them without issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
I think it is because he had it flashed while slot 1 was still active. After he reinstalled SS is probably defaulted back to that slot. I ran into something similar when I flashed a new rom without deleting my slots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] spitfirefrenzy:
working with PAC?

sorry if this is in the wrong spot or has been asked already but I searched for quite some time and couldn't find any reference to P.A.C. rom. i want to flash it with safestrap but didn't know if anyone can confirm it would work or what the consequences were if it didn't. thanks in advance!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
I use rom slot 1 for every rom I use. I wipe each time just like I used to do when I had CWM without duel boot.no big deal with space if you dont use all slots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
How could you not find an answer? It is plainly explained in almost every SS topic. AOSP, AOSP, CM, MIUI, etc, does not work with SS, only TW ROMs do. PAC is not TW based so it will not work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 78Staff:
Figured out the Digicalc widget problem, but still loaded Aodhan's GE rom also to check it out - and from a quick run though, as far as I can tell the two are very similar, with Aodhan's coming with a few more stock/google apps out of the box, and the Slim's Sprint-based build prop to allow Wallet to work without any hacked apks, etc. are the only real differences. Can't go wrong with either, really.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Prince21:
Maybe it has been answered but at the ss boot screen is there a way that if you select the recovery option you would need a pin to enter it? I have a 3 year old that plays with my phone. I dont want him to get in format data on stock rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Nope. And I hate to be the guy that says this, but why are you letting your 3 year old play with your $650 phone? Also, how likely is it for your child to reboot the phone and be able to press the menu key to get into SS, then navigate to wipe, then advanced wipe, then hit the data checkbook, then slide to wipe that sucker?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Prince21:
Thanks for the response. Yeah man, when that SS boot cartoon comes up, Im afraid he will touch every pixel on the screen to make it jump or run
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rayburne:
Delete....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
You must not have a toddler at home lol. I have a nearly 3 yo and never underestimate their random pushing of buttons. They will always succeed!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] spitfirefrenzy:
thanks for the informative reply. i could have done with out the condescending answer though. hope you made yourself feel smart because you knew something i didn't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
Didnt flash on stock dude. To confirm after best buy flashed mf3 again and returned to stock. Slot 1 contained bobcat rom. Which is the one I flashed before I got stuck in the samsung logo. Again.. it was in slot 1 not on stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
I have a 10 month old. So he's getting there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
That was me being nice. You want condescending?

If you would kindly go back and read the rules, you will see that they say to use the search function and read. You may have searched but you obviously did not read. Every SS related thread has your question answered. The OP of Hashcode's development thread has the answer. But you clearly missed it. It is also stated multiple times in this discussion thread in which I am the OP of, which you seemed to have inconveniently not read.

How's that for condescending?

My original intent was to give you an answer. But since it has been said a billion times, being a bit harsh is sometimes necessary. It let's you know that you have faulted at some point and let's others learn from your mistake. Now, let is get back on topic, shall we. I wish you a good evening.