yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X Android Development] gunnyman:
there's a CID. If Motorola was sloppy it's unencrypted like it was on the HTC One X at first.
[Moto X Android Development] flashallthetime:
How?

Sent on my Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] mattlgroff:
CID is a signature checked partition and your device will brick if it doesn't match the hash sums and file size of your original partition. Its also unique to every device.

(This is going off of the Atrix HD, RAZR HD, RAZR M style devices from Moto. )
[Moto X Android Development] mkinney88:
So you can't just use hex editor to change to 11111111 or to rogers Cid ? Sorry again this is just what I have learned while working with the HTC one s, but you can use the cid partition from another htc one s and it wont brick, so unless the HTC one s doesnt check the hash sums against the partition which I'm not sure if it does.
[Moto X Android Development] jcase:
I can attest to the bricking factor
[Moto X Android Development] mattlgroff:
HTC didn't sig check the cid partition on the One S. You could modify the string so it'd be a SuperCID.

Also, the bootloader generates the code and it's not just from the CID partition, it calculates more values than just from that partition.

Guessing the unlock code, especially without root would not be the way to go about this. (You cannot 'fastboot flash cid ____' it is denied, on the previous Motorola Qualcomm generation anyway, but not like you'd want to since it would brick).
[Moto X Android Development] mkinney88:
Ah I see. Well thanks for clearing that up for me.
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
I'm gonna need someone to pm me with a gtalk / hangouts email that has a Moto X so I can work on the device for root. I dont have one and need some info pulled.
[Moto X Android Development] kornklown69:
ask here too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2426932
[Moto X Android Development] linuxgator:
I've got one, i use the same name on gtalk. What method are you trying to use?
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
Does it have root?
[Moto X Android Development] linuxgator:
Nope, but what info do you need pulled?
[Moto X Android Development] linuxgator:
I compiled and built the program that tries to use the libperf_event exploit, and got it to run, but it doesn't seem to work on the X, so I think it's safe to say that they blocked that exploit.
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
Well, as of right now I have a few ways to root the AT&T variant. If I can get the kernel decompressed, I can get an offset and use a kernel exploit. But right now I'm trying an apk based one.
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
There's no if in this part. I know what it's vulnerable to. Only thing now is getting it to load up and exploit. We've covered the hard part :P
[Moto X Android Development] tw1tch175:
I'm more than happy to be a guinea pig but sadly on ATT so can't help with the already rooted stuff.
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
Update: I may have root, but as of now I need to find a new tester since everyone went to bed. :(
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
I'm at work, but in lunch. I don't have access to a computer, but if that's not a requirement, I can test it

Sent from my custom Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] munchy_cool:
go for it Ryan :D
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Yes hopefully this guy replies before I have to go back in.

Sent from my custom Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] Indirect:
You need a computer.
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Ok bro. I'll PM you when I get home, or better yet, add me on g+ and we can chat on hangouts. It'll be about 3 hours from now. If you don't get anyone by then. I'll test it out. Good luck and hopefully I'll not have to test and it will be ready!

Sent from my custom Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] amoamare:
Lets test it haha I can test if you want as well. I have a verizon moto x if you want someone to test tonight just let me know.
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
Whoa hello CTO. Sub'd for epicness
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
What up Rob. Let's hope this comes to fruition! I'm ready for root on the Moto X!
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
Hello hello! I'm on vacation and keeping an eye on here I want it so much. Need BBS so I can figure out why my phone doesn't like to stay charged long
[Moto X Android Development] gunnyman:
Well well rob we meet again. Flagship phone addicts club is now in session.
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Odd, I've gotten great battery life out of my X until the last couple days. It wasn't bad, but today I was at 12% after 12hrs and 3hrs 33min screen on time. It was way better before. I had 3hrs screen on time and still had over 40% battery last week. Don't know what's causing it, but I would also like to find out. I actually thought about doing a factory reset, but setting everything up again is a pain. Especially without root. Helium is good, but TiBu is faster.

Hope you are enjoying your vacation!
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
Thank you!

Not really for me I reset it a few days ago because it was at 44% with 58 min screen time after 12 hours on. I barely used it since I was buying a car that day and it just say in my pocket.
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Yeah that's pretty bad. Something is definitely keeping it awake. Well, lets hope Indirect hits me up on Hangouts soon and we can get this going!
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
I can help once I get into blue ridge but that won't be for another 4-5 hours. (Kernel took up the most of the battery at 24%)
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Well, there's about to be a lot more people awake that can help. I'll wait around another half hour and I'm going to bed. Just finished working 11 hours and am beat. I'd be glad to stay up and test and/or help, but if I don't hear back by 7:30 est. I'm going to bed. Thank you [MENTION=3854041]Indirect[/MENTION] for helping us out though. I really appreciate it and I hope when I wake up I'll be able to root my phone and get you your bounty money!
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
Unless I can fix my kernel drain, I'll be on this for a long while. Great phone, ungreat drain
[Moto X Android Development] gunnyman:
I've seen a couple of posts on Google Plus regarding odd battery drain. Most point to rogue apps. Are you running Weather Bug PAID by any chance? that's a common culprit.
[Moto X Android Development] robstunner:
I do but unless it's hidden under kernel usage I don't see it draining anything
[Moto X Android Development] Franky_V:
I don't want to be THAT guy but.....

Can you guys please take this to PM? The OP has requested pertinent chatter only. I was looking forward to 2 full pages of exploit talk and now all I've read is battery life speculation :'(

Thanks guys, sorry if I bursted your bubble
[Moto X Android Development] Dark9781:
If you're still looking for someone to test. I'm available all day today.
[Moto X Android Development] murso74:
I think it ended up Being a dead end
[Moto X Android Development] Dark9781:
That sucks. I'm sure root will come eventually and I'm always willing to test any exploits.
[Moto X Android Development] wera750:
I don't think that is the case. This is speculation, but I think they are ironing out the kinks on it....
[Moto X Android Development] amoamare:
We were up all night, I was letting him do some testing and stuff, i believe he is out surfing today or maybe sleeping.

Just to let you guys know.
[Moto X Android Development] mau006:
Don't want to clog up the thread, but I'm down to help test. I have a Verizon Moto X, and am somewhat familiar with Android app development but not ROM/Kernel/Root development.
[Moto X Android Development] kornklown69:
and how did that go?

forgive me OP everyone is off topic again.
[Moto X Android Development] rSallyx:
I'm willing to do some testing I have an AT&T variant, pretty good with adb and such basics PM and we can do a Google hangout I have windows 7 and can get Linux setup easily.
[Moto X Android Development] basedboii:
Moto X has been rooted!!
[Moto X Android Development] kornklown69:
thinking I just shat myself
[Moto X Android Development] trebills:
For att only?

sent from my RAZR Maxx HD
[Moto X Android Development] basedboii:
Its for Verizon, but im sure it should work for the at&t
[Moto X Android Development] kornklown69:
look at at&t bounty thread
[Moto X Android Development] basedboii:
Sweet!!!!:D
[Moto X Android Development] flashallthetime:
Great news, now you can join the rooted club:D

Bad news for me is I could have kept my boot loader locked and keep my warranty valid oh well

Sent on my Rooted Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] dr3wster:
Now I don't have to wait for the Dev Edition! Thank you Indirect and everyone else here!!!! You are all amazing! :laugh:
[Moto X Android Development] kornklown69:
dont know if Indirect is part of the group that did it
[Moto X Android Development] mkinney88:
Great news and good job on finding the exploit. Now the question is will root help with achieving an unlocked boot loader?
[Moto X Android Development] rubiksmoose:
Yes, it was (at least) [MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC and [MENTION=3854041]Indirect[/MENTION] that did it. A small amount has been said about it in previous posts.
[Moto X Android Development] flashallthetime:
Here's a link for flash Gordon posted in themes and apps threads, flashes any zip without a custom recovery except Roms

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2441022

Sent on my Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] papi92:
We should be able to alter system from bootstrap? Unless I'm wrong. If the device reads it as a recovery and works like an HTC device then system is unlocked during recovery process. Hence why we can get OTAs. Idk how bootstrap works exactly to be honest. I buy unlocked usually.
[Moto X Android Development] imstill@g:
"Looking a lot like MotoX and the new droids will be able to load roms" jcase just tweeted
[Moto X Android Development] housry23:
Haha. Thanks for the laugh!

Sent from my custom Moto X
[Moto X Android Development] matt99017d:
Good one franky! Game over!

Thank you for taking this to PM!

Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
[Moto X Android Development] andTab:
Has there been any update on this?

I have looked up and down this forum and couldn't find anything.

I am up for my renewal at at&t and I hate having to jump through the hoop of buying an at&t phone, selling it (at a discount) and then buying a dev edition moto x. That would just be retarded.
[Moto X Android Development] mj0528:
I thought were we getting safe strap but it hasn't been mentioned in awhile. Great device without custom Roms though!
[Moto X Android Development] dr3wster:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Hashcode0f/status/385441978336292864

This is the latest update from hashcode re safestrap status.. If you track back through his tweets however, you can see its so close to release that you can almost smell it! Hope this final hurdle isn't too hard to solve!
[Moto X Android Development] mj0528:
Thanks for the update! Wondering if hiding root and flashing stock recovery for the ota is a good idea or not since things have slower down here.
[Moto X Android Development] dr3wster:
Lol.. I seriously thought about it too - mainly to get updates to camera performance. You have prolly seen it already but in case you haven't, Dark9781 has a very detailed tutorial ( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46093785) if you are brave and wanna give it a crack!

Somehow tho, I reckon its better to tough it out and wait for what seems to be a soon to be released safestrap. Im concerned there may be some tiny thing in the OTA that might break safestrap ... Knowing my luck!! #paranoia
[Moto X Android Development] jayboyyyy:
I would wait personally. I am on vzw so i don't even have the option yet but I would still wait. Patience is always key to everything in the world! And what is two weeks without a better camera? I already personally waited almost 6 months for the release of this phone so I'm no too concerned with waiting a few weeks at most and making sure I don't take a plunge I can't come back from.
[Moto X Android Development] clothednblack:
I backed up root, undid my mods, unrooted, and unfroze bloat, downloaded update and let it do it's thing..... Bad idea. After reboot, the phone would run about 30 seconds then reboot again and again and again and again. The problem was that root removes the recovery IMG that is needed to update. I had to rsdlite back to stock then set everything back up. Then I froze the ota option. It's best to just wait.
[Moto X Android Development] jayboyyyy:
and one day later safestrap has been released. You didn't even have to be that patient.
[Moto X Android Development] clothednblack:
Safestrap has some bugs, but is moving along nicely.
[Moto X Android Development] johnwaynegacy:
Why do they even waste money locking these things down? It is a high end, multi carrier android device. The safeguards never stood a chance.
[Moto X Android Development] rmead01:
Yes they do stand a chance. VZW/ATT bootloaders are still locked. Root is unobtainable on current models since the OTA update. Safestrap is a great step forward, but only available to original owners that have not updated.

So again, the safegaurds are actually still in place.
[Moto X Android Development] touchpro247:
FYI: You can downgrade on at&t root, protect root, update again then use safestrap.
[Moto X Android Development] rmead01:
How? I've been trying for days. Always fails no matter what. tried rsdlite, tried fastboot, replaced gpt files and whatnot.

If you know how to downgrade a locked ATT phone to pre OTA software, you'd be the first person to know how.
[Moto X Android Development] touchpro247:
I just used this guide & tutorial and it worked. I actually have done this a few times because the roms I've been working on don't flash correctly w/ safestrap.

I'm not going to hijack this thread but if you post in one of the other threads, I'll help you as much as I can.

[GUIDE][VIDEO] Moto X - Return to 100% stock (using RSD Lite) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2446515

Tutorial: How To Protect and Restore Root for an OTA Update http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46093725
[Moto X Android Development] rmead01:
I've tried it but I'll give it another shot and see what happens. I'll PM you if I need any assistance.
[Moto X Android Development] atomb:
I'm with you, those directions don't work for me either. It fails every time in RSDlite when trying to flash the firmware. Complains that a newer version is already on the phone and quits. It got this way when trying to keep root while updating and that obviously failed. Now I am stuck on the new version with no root. :(
[Moto X Android Development] rmead01:
Yeah talked to him last night. Since he was updating with the method to keep root, his baseband was not updating. When your baseband updates from doing the OTA the way it's supposed to (unrooted) you are not able to flash down.
[Moto X Android Development] atomb:
Thanks, looks like I (and whoever else) failed to keep root are just screwed for the time being. Hope one of the xda geniuses figure something out.
[Moto X Android Development] matt99017d:
This is a post by matt over in the fxz forum. Worth a shot!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2411618

QUOTE=mattlgroff;46356343]If you flash only system, boot, and modem you can always downgrade to a rootable firmware. Just don't take OTAs.

Sent from my rooted apple 5s killer!
[Moto X Android Development] rmead01:
Sent from my rooted apple 5s killer![/QUOTE]

Again, this might work for someone still on the original software. But this won't help anyone that has already accepted the OTA.
[Moto X Android Development] mj0528:
Hashcode looks to have another alpha out as of this afternoon! The man is cooking it up for us!
[Moto X Android Development] wturner859:
I just got my VZW moto X 2 days ago... System update said I was up to date... Yesterday I tried the root method in original moto X development forum... And it worked... Unless I somehow don't have the latest Ota... But it said I was up to date... Am I missing so me thing here? According to what you guys are saying, I shouldn't have been able to root... I can't find the latest ota build number to know if I'm on it... But like I said, it said I was up to date before I even rooted... But here look...
[Moto X Android Development] thepolishguy:
Your system is up to date. Verizon hasn't got the update that breaks root. So that is why you didn't have any problems. DON'T accept the update if you want to keep root.
[Moto X Android Development] Dark9781:
That is because Verizon hasn't released an update for the Moto X yet. All Verizon phones still have the original firmware from the launch of the device.
[Moto X Android Development] wturner859:
At least one good thing came from vzw making sure they stick their fingers in all updates before they get pushed out, huh?
[Moto X Android Development] thepolishguy:
Yeah. They are waiting so long so they can patch the root exploit. In the meantime everyone is getting the phone and rooting before the update.
[Moto X Android Development] core720:
is there any way to unlock without losing the warranty?

Motopocalypse: Motorola bootloader unlock script is compatible with our device?
[Moto X Android Development] nhizzat:
Yes there is. Buy a DE Moto X.

In regards to Motopocalypse, I have no idea.
[Moto X Android Development] Flip35:
I just received my Moto X(verizon) it was already up to date but i guess ill be able to root also im gpnna post a pic of my info
[Moto X Android Development] duncanidahoe:
Tried Motopocalypse actually ran, probably just needs a little adjustment for the moto x. Haven't had the time to explore it, but it actually seems to be compatible with the moto x.
[Moto X Android Development] aFancyTickler:
did you have write protecton enabled when you ran it ? and was this on 4.2.2 or 4.4 ?
[Moto X Android Development] duncanidahoe:
No write protection wasn't enabled and I was on 4.2.2. I had tried it when I had just gotten the phone.
[LG Optimus G (International)] =JKT=:
This is my first lg device. I see some aside references to kdzing your phone.

I know what it is, but I cant seem to find an explanation of when its needed. (besides obviously restoring your phone to stock for more obvious reasons)

For example, if you come from an aosp from, you don't neec to kdz to flash another.

If I come from a stock rom and want to flash some aosp rom, can I not just wipe system, cache, dalvik, and data?

Thanks,

I'm on 4.0.4 Bell stock right now.

Edit: After another ten minutes of googling I see that you kdz to original ics if you have taken an ota update, correct?

As embarrassing as it is to answer my own question so quickly, I'll leave this up if any other noobs drop by.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] grumble:
As the subject says are there any alternate browsers available ?

Ive checked Mozilla web site and they dont seem to cater for mobile devices. Opera has a version available for smartphones but not PPC

So has anyone any alternatives to suggest ? I loathe IE, its dead and buried on all my PC's and would love to replace it on my phone.

Unless of course some enterprising soul has found a way of porting Linux on to the phone :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] FOSA:
RE

Of course, search the net and you can find either Netfront or the upcoming Opera.

But why deplete your precious memory when IE is available? The installation of an alternate browser is good unless you are able to totally remove IE so as to recover the memory.

I'm happy using IE for my browsing.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] egtan:
Well, if you're looking for free browsers, you can try MiniMoCE which is short for Mini Mozilla CE.

Version 0.008 is out here...

http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/dougt/archives/008751.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] grumble:
Thanx for the tips, will have a play with these
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Koksie:
Opera is available for PPC when you install it with the Midi Applet on your PPC, check this thread for info on installing: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27138&start=50
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Dandie:
Thunderhawk might be the best but also most expensive browser for PPCs. It has periodic costs for its use and supports full scaling of internet pages through a proxy.
[Nook Touch General] sLiKK:
Every time I connect my Rooted Nook Simple Touch to my laptop to transfer books, I get the blue screen. I then shut down the computer and restart it. When I re connect the Nook, everything works just fine. However, I do get the pop up that says whether I want to scan and fix the memory card in Nook.

Does anyone know whats wrong here? I am now afraid to connect my Nook to my computer fearing that it may crash it.
[Nook Touch General] mantion:
Almost the same thing happened to me once, perhaps the issue is with your micro sd card.

I would suggest you try to backup and format your micro sd, might be corrupt or something. Worth a shot.
[Nook Touch General] sLiKK:
How Do I format it? Will I lost my root if i format the sd card?
[Nook Touch General] mantion:
You connect your micro sd to your computer from an adapter (NOT YOUR NOOK) and you format with a program like sdformatter or the default windows formatter.

You WILL lose all data from your micro sd, but not the root. Therefore try backing it up first and recopying the things you really need.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eladasul:
Hi All! I am new to installing roms and was wondering if there was a step by step guide to install a jelly bean rom on the defy mb525? Also where can I get download links?

Thnaks!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hotdog125:
Well, you can search around. Read before asking. Read the stickies. You have to start by rooting, installing 2ndinit and then install JB.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2Pints:
Three words of advice for you:

Backup

Backup

Backup

and then back up your back ups from your SD card/phone to your p.c

In other words as soon as youve got 2nd init and the boot menu working run a back up copy and keep this somewhere safe ( this is your re-set to zero back up ) you may also want to back up call logs/ and texts (sms) this can be done with an app

Back up all your apps with something like titanium back up, also if using titanium make a flashable zip version on your SD card

wipe+install ROM, if it works OK, do another back up form recovery, ( this is your basic clean installed ROM ) install titanium ( from the flashable zip you made previously)

re-boot and Re-load your apps form titanium backup, if all works OK make another back up in recovery, keep these backups somewhere safe ( ie backed up onto your p.c ) each time you flash a new rom back everything up, also back up from time to time as well ( both through recovery and titanium)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eladasul:
Tried

I tried looking around but no one is giving step by step instructions...

I do not even know how to root and where to find a toolkit...
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thekguy:
Root-search for framaroot

Install 2ndinit apk-again search

Download rom from xda

Copy to sdcard

Reboot device, and press the vol down button when led turns

Select custom recovery, and install zip from sdcard. Wipe data after(factory reset)
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jountha:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1889325

Hope this might help u out

cm10