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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
I don't want to be THAT GUY, but I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering what the ETA is for this. If its too early to tell don't worry about item

And huge thanks for the good work HC!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] graydiggy:
You are THAT GUY.

Asking for an ETF is not allowed. Did you read the forum rules?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
No ETA yet but the fact we even have this thread is all I need to be assured that there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
He is going to release it at exactly 11pm on Monday September 2, 2013...we dont know man, do you think they finish it and hold onto it to release so they can release it on specific date?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
I actually don't remember seeing that in the rules? Sorry about that.

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That's why its an ESTIMATED time man. I was just asking.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
Everyone just relax. I'll let you know when testing begins. Does that work for everyone? Good :)

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] neur0tk:
It seems no one likes to wait! Ha It will be here before we know it hell we waited this long what's a few days or even weeks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Pepsistopheles:
Oh ok, thanks :) I only ask because wifi keeps dropping on mine (already spoken with VZW and tried tons of fixes) and I was hoping that CM 10.2 would fix it. Regardless, excited to try this out!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klick37:
Hashcode again proves himself a god among men.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
You may not have known this, but I would like to explain: :silly:

The Rule is ALWAYS!!! Never Ask for ETAs. Developers do this as their hobby, they have a regular job and family... They do this because they like what they are doing. Nothing turns them off more than the users they are volenterily helping asking when they will be finished. So the rule (written or unwritten) for all development forums is to encourage the developers, thank the developers, donate to the developers if you like their work. But, Never, Never, Never ask for etas. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshuadjohnson22:
lol we are like kids at Christmas, I would rather him take his time and make it right than to give us a buggy first build. Just relax and wait ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mmw68666:
AMEN
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] desantim:
Crack pow almost traded my S4 in for a HTC One or went back to my note 2 but this is a great wedding present if it all works out. Wahoo! I'll be loading up roms while I walk down the Isle!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jlopez1286:
Oh, ok..thanks..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mad3963:
1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stevey500:
On AT&T MF3 stock firmware/kernel.

1.Yes

2.Yes

and 3.Yes.

:good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skeet34:
I have been following this thread a bit because just like everyone else I really want to install some roms on my stupid ME7 phone. I wish we could unlock the bootloader already, but at least now that SS is booting into a recovery without issue, I was wondering if it is safe to partition out some space n install hyperdrive rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zplit:
Same here :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vzwnexus:
the ROMS themselves have to be built for SS. so the answer is no for now. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
No it's not.

Sent from my SGS4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skeet34:
Bummer :-\ thx for the info tho.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] farnumdizzle:
working good

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

Everything seems to be working fine on my Verizon ME7 build.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Easton999GS:
What needs to be done with the rom to make it compatable with safestrap? This will honestly be a royal pain in the ass for devs to work with unless we can Aroma both options into the rom... Oh well. Still on my MDL Bootloader AT&T Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DeadlySin9:
From previous experience, it isn't too difficult to make a ROM safestrap compatible. Believe install script tweaks and maybe something else is all
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
I think it makes no sense to say it's gonna be a pain in the ass for developers to adapt their roms for ss... As far as I know this device bootloader is LOCKED. I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the majority of us s4 owners are on me7. Mdk is a minority and sooner or later something might happen that force them to upgrade and then what? The way I see it ss is the ONLY way to achieve a virtually unlocked device... Loki itself is a circumvention of the bootloader.

Especially if kexec is implemented ss will be the norm probably...

Sent from my SGS4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mateopase:
Actually, most people here on XDA are on MDK. The average U.S. user is on ME7, but those users aren't on XDA. Most people here didn't update, and nothing will force MDK users to update. Now, I'm not saying that the number of ME7 users is small, it's just not as big as you think. MDK is still a majority. People on MDK will never need to update. Ever. They can just keep flashing updated ROMs through recovery forever and ever. And it will be a pain for devs to make their ROMs compatible. I don't remember if it was sbreen, dubbsy, or nitro who said this, but they said it would indeed be a pain. And SS is even more of a circumvention of the bootloader. You have to waste space on your stock partition, and install your rom to your sdcard folder. That, while it's a godsend for ME7 users, isn't ideal.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thedanks:
My asurion replacement just came with ME7. Anything I can do to help let me know. :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
Im me7 user and several others I know are too. Ss will offer us the ability to customized and have 3 or 4 roms to switch quickly between. Im not worried about internal space with my 64gb ext memory and redirecting apps and storage there. A bootloader unlock looks pretty unlikely and devs wilk probably go at ss rom support in greater numbers. Its all good
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] donshaffer:
1... Yes

2... Yes

3... Yes

Just as an FYI (not important): I noticed that the time in SS is static at 9:40pm, I had the thought that you had not worried about that at this point, but in case you had, thought I would mention it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
It's probably going to be a bit of a pain, but there are also probably plenty of folks on ME7 that are capable of creating ROM's as well so there shouldn't be any shortage of ROM's for SS once we know what is needed to make them compatible. I think you will probably see multiple versions of ROM's based on loki vs SS depending on what the dev has on their phone.

As for SS being better than loki from a poster above. I don't think that is true. I think that Loki is as much an unlocked bootloader as SS is for all intensive purposes, I view them as about the same in terms of the bootloader, they are both workarounds and both allow custom ROM's to be run.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
I didn't say it's better... I said there is no real unlock method for this device.. Which BTW makes me wanna buy a note 3 at the end of the month... Lol

Sent from my SGS4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
Ok, sorry, I must have misunderstood you, I haven't had enough caffeine for the day :)

By the way, why would the note 3 be unlocked on verizon or ATT if no other phones are? (really curious, not trying to bust heads or anything)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Anthony825:
Why? They're just going to lock that one up too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Easton999GS:
actually, Loki is better than SS. Loki can mimic a bootloader unlock 100% and flash international roms if your an AT&T user. SS you cant flash any custom kernels out whatsoever. and Kexec isnt even a guarantee to be working which is a second royal pain in the ass and you have a ton of limitations.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Go spread your negativity somewhere else. This is work in progress, and what comes out of it will probably still be better than a stock TW experience.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biznazz:
There are quite a number of us on me7. And by saying all of the negative stuff is going to push those who are working on getting those of us on me7 the customizability that we are here for away. The ability to have a choice of running one of 4 ROMs will be beneficial especially for theming and other things. If I am correct he is trying to get it to work on mdk also so it will not only be for users on me7 and those on art that are locked down.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Anyways im just wondering why people on me7 cant access adb from recovery? I mean if you mount system and chmod 755 adb, it should work for me7 users as well right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mmw68666:
Duh!!!! If it was that easy don't you think it would of been done
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] PaintDrinkingPete:
Like many folks here (at least the non-devs), when it comes to my Android phones, there are a few rules I follow:

1. I Don't buy phones unless I've confirmed that bootloader can be unlocked (or at the very least root achieved and ROMs can be installed), and make sure that the phone I'm buying has a strong dev interest and community

2. I NEVER install OTA updates. NEVER. Even if I'm running stock, I wait for a rooted ROM version to be available. "Sooner" nor "later" will ever happen that will force me to upgrade to anything I don't want.

3. If I use a dev's work, I make a donation to show my appreciation

I'm still running MDK and have no plans to change that.

Yeah, there's no reason to believe things won't just continue to get worse with many of these phones, especially the Note line, which is so similar in many ways to the Galaxy phones.

Personally, I'm pretty sure my next device will be a Nexus, even if that means leaving Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
*sigh* Can we take the pissing match proposed at ME7 users being inferior to MDK users elsewhere and leave this thread for SafeStrap related discussion?

K? Thanks :silly:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Im just saying...I dont see why this wouldn't work on me7 after mounting /system

/system/bin # chmod 755 /system/bin/adb

I:Actual command is: 'cd "/system/bin" && chmod 755 /system/bin/adb 2>&1'

/system/bin # ./adb shell

I:Actual command is: 'cd "/system/bin" && ./adb shell 2>&1'

error: device not found

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5038 *

* daemon started successfully *
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Easton999GS:
I wasnt being negative, i was telling someone that they were wrong about something. So there would be no misunderstandings in the future. im actually really excited about this because i cant stand Verizon or AT&T for being greedy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] daveseris:
All three tests confirmed. SCH I545 ME7.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
For anyone deciding to go with note3 samsung told me as of right now from s4 forward they all will be locked.the reason is they want government people using the phones like CIA FBI ect. AND THEY SAID "the note will be even harder because they are hoping the government people choose that over the s4 because of screen size and speed, also 4.3 because they can add multiple users.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zplit:
I'm pretty much new when comes to this things and I don't know 80percent of the things u guys know...

I just read and try to understand you guys but I'm here to try, learn and thank you guys cuz the little I know is thanks to you. I just wanted to thanks Shascode for he's work and i won't ever bring something negative to this or other thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
At this point though you guys realize what I was saying before... I am not saying that SS is a better alternative than LOKI i am just saying that there is going to be fewer and fewer devices on which unlocked bootloader can be achieved and workaround like SS are going to be more and more common (if possible at all) and at that point pain in the ass or not either devs will adapt their roms or we won't be able to use custom roms for our devices anymore.. I am just saying I choose Android over iPhone for obvious reasons of freedom... but if this freedom is taken away then it's no longer worth it... I might just get a symbian phone... That was a cool os.. :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dwd3885:
Or a Google Experience device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
Which on verizon is....?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JediMindTrixx:
That sucks!!! But what I don't understand the TMO and Sprint's S4 are unlockable, correct? I'm sure when their Note 3s come out they will be unlockable...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Sadly this is true, but they are also chasing corporate enterprise accounts.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
I'm not sure you are correct. There are a lot of ME 7 users on XDA. :sly:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
I am looking into going back to AT&T... I know it's the same sh*t but at least on a GSM network I could use google phones and google play edition phones... We had to go with verizon because at my wife's work ATT had poor reception (read as no line) but this was 2 years ago... you would expect the line to have improved by now... I guess I am just frustrated with this crap... I mean we verizon users have to look at all that good on the other side of the fence and can't have it.... I mean it really sucks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Yes, thanks to you Samuri!

Carved in lots of blood from my encrypted GS4.:p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
LMAO! You don't like my tapa sig for the Xoom? :D My S4 tapa sig is etched in blood with a katana. LMAO! And you're quite welcome. I was relieved when you got it booting again. I don't like seeing people brick, even soft brick, expensive phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Hey Sam I love your SIG! Don't you know that imitation or parody is the highest form of flattery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dwd3885:
The Moto X
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Soft bricked my encrypted GS4 running ME 7. This time the SS screen came up but did not go into recovery. Bootloops at VZW white logo screen, like last time. Can't get to password decryption screen, like last time. Well, time to Odin! :rolleyes::eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rebel1699:
That stinks. However, since youre the only one testing with encryption enabled, it is needed info. Thanks for taking a hit for the rest of those that need encryption.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
No problem. Odin is flashing my System .tar file courtsey of Samuri as we speak.:cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
Well, at least you were prepared this time. Thanks for testing it...uh, again. :D

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Most excellent. Too bad it couldn't be a pre-rooted system image like we do on the GPE. LOL! Ah well, at least you have a root exploit so it's easy enough I guess.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Spit this is not working right! !! Oh oh.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bikedude880:
I miss doing Android development... this project will most definitely get me back into it. Good to see you still in the scene Hashcode and we're all looking forward to an awesome release!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inigo Montoya:
So I have an old Bionic laying around and would like to try getting Safestrap on it prior to attempting it on my S4 just to get the feel for the process. The issue is the Bionic is on JB and I am having difficultly understanding the root method performed on a Mac.

Does anyone have a definitive step-by-step method to getting root on the Mac to work? Would love to give this a whirl as a primer for when Hashcode completes his amazing work.

Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HORiZUN:
Get parallels up running windows on your mac. Follow the windows root tutorial. Profit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inigo Montoya:
I have VMWare so I guess the possibility is there. Wasn't sure if that would work or not. For some reason it runs horribly on my Mac but maybe I'll give it a try this weekend.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wtherrell:
No, but you can get a dev edition with unlocked bootloader direct from Samsung. They have Verizon version. I'm running it now with Hyperdrive rom. A little expensive but I was going to pay retail anyway to keep my unlimited data.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] armus:
If hash code is on the job, you will get results. The dude is killer with locked crap - thank moto for that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
I didnt even use a computer to root my s4.. used an unzip app then terminal emulator like instructions state

sorry replied too fast saw you were referring to another phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inigo Montoya:
Thanks. Yea my S4 is rooted just thought I would practice Safestrap on the Bionic first. See how things work, etc.

Going to give it a shot over the weekend on VMware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
Have fun :) everyonce and a while I whip out my old d1 and mess with it for fun.. I still have 5 thunderbolts I like fool around with as well lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jzmax22:
5 thunderbolts? Why would you even have one?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
Lol I never had an issue with my bolt and people gave me theirs when they upgraded. Granted mine was never stock rooted and custom rom after 5 minutes.. I live 2 from the store.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hexitnow:
Hook it up man :D

Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
Lol a thunderbolt or something else when I get it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inigo Montoya:
Got it to work finally on a Mac. Looking forward to testing Safestrap on a Bionic in anticipation for the S4!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xM Minton Mx:
He isn't the only one who would want one. My wife's s3 usb port quit working and my mother in law just cracked another screen (yea she won't ever get a new device out of me lol) but if you happen to come across a cracked s3 but everything else works I'd be interested. Hmu thru one of my social sites or on here. Thanks a ton. Love to have connections.

Btw rooting for this me7 thing to work out for yall... Oh and I have an mdk s4 at my local retail store I work at.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
I have fixed 2 s3 screens it was good times lol but no left over parts. I will keep you in mind :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Glynix:
Sooo excited for this release!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hexitnow:
A thunderbolt would be pretty sweet :p

Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
Quick Update: I know this thread looks a bit dead, but right now I'm working on getting stock-based ROMs working.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
That is AWESOME news hash! :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
Hash does that mean the first eight tests have passed?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazy_smokezalot:
bless you man so i would say IMO that it coming along great... so now we would just have to wait and see
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
I don't think anyone will ever lose faith in you brother. I know I never have. You're a man of your word and not a quitter

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jzmax22:
Very excited. Thank you hash.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] inkdaddy66:
Take your time. Nobody will die waiting. Excellence can't be rushed and since I have no idea to do what you are capable of. I will continue to patiently breath. Thanks for the hard work and dedication
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] saved my kindle fire. Now he strives to save the world. I love you (in a platonic way, of course), hashcode
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Lou 270:
I'm having withdrawals I haven't owned a phone in 4 or 5 years that didn't have a custom rom thank you hash and everyone else who puts in time and effort so people like me can enjoy it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mpry1:
Thanks Hashcode! You made my bionic good and my nook tablet amazing! I can't wait to see what you bring to the s4!

Greetings from the S4 Galaxy!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jboogie555:
SS is the reason I'm keeping my S4 and not going for a Moto X. Cant wait!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
Why even think of moto x? No sd storage 720 screen and only dual core. Even the s4 on sprint will be faster than that
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] baling:
So awesome man so stoked! Sending you something for your time!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jboogie555:
Suitability
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] datsteve:
The X by no means is a slouch. If phones needed to be quad-core and rocking hella specs to stay on the market then you'd see companies like Apple launching devices with that kind of hardware - yet we see today that the 5s doesn't even have a quad-core CPU. If the manufacturer is smart about what they put in the OS and how the phone operates, they can create a viable handset that works snappily in our age of quad-core 1080p smartphones with less powerful internals.

When I first saw the spec sheet for the Moto X, I'll admit, I was turned off from the phone. Now, however, people are reporting that the device runs notably well and that its worst feature is just the camera. Honestly, I'd take a well-rounded smartphone over a high-powered, poorly-optimized device like the S4 if we weren't able to customize how our Android devices work (and, actually, we can't really do on the Verizon-locked Galaxy S4 with the ME7 update).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HORiZUN:
Safestrap is confirmed working on AT&T MF3 firmware also. HashCode's work will open up development for the S4 on both carriers.

I'll agree, the Motorola X does ok with what it has under the hood, but why would you go from a supercharged V8 to a 4 cylinder? I'll continue to wait and watch HashCode unveil the magic up his sleeve rather than get rid of this superior piece of hardware. Touchwiz will not be on this platform much longer, thanks to HashCode. Development for the newest ota updates on both carriers is about to explode.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] datsteve:
Fuel milage, actually, is a compelling reason to switch to a less powerful engine when you don't need the power. I'm sure the battery lasts longer on the X. Or not, if its battery size is much lesser than the S4. I never tested it myself ;)

I see what you mean. I still love the hardware the S4 has, and I'll love it even more when I can get a different ROM on mine.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
Apple runs different operating system so there 2 cores is like our 4 cores. Moto x is ok but no sd storage. Why take a chance and buy a phone they may be locked and u have to use ss but can't because no sd
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Roland_D:
I thought of buying the X too... What I would run on my s4 is an aosp ROM anyways and I don't play with it so... For what I need I could have easily bought an x... And I dare anybody to grab a phone and, without comparing it side by side to another phone, tell me if it's 720 or 1080... Especially the moto x... Also remember the smaller the screen the smaller the difference..

Sent from my SGS4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] c0lored:
Super stoked..I've used Hashcode's work before, its absolutely amazing. Great to see you developing for the I545 man, thanks!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
Waiting for an update from the amazing Mr Hash...but thinking about installing the b07 version to try it out... should I just wait or install to make sure it works
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] my-blue-snog-box:
Unless you're on a device or firmware that is close to the VZW S4 (AT&T S4, S4 Active, et al)but hasn't been confirmed as successful yet (those examples have been confirmed), there really isn't much point.