yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
You flash this from recovery. It's the root package.

http://download.chainfire.eu/350/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.60.zip
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
i follwed the steps till the sc card partitionong ... it went smooth ... tell me in sc card what method should have i used ... ??? ... whas this new thing how wld i flash it plz tell
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
You go in recovery by booting in hboot (Power+Vol Down), and selecting recovery. In recovery, select "install zip from sd-card", and select the zip I gave you above. That will give you root access, and you will be able to install 4ext through the app.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
In recovery, select "install zip from sd-card", nothing is happening ... just black screen with revolutionary written :(
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
now i cant even reboot restart my phone :( its stuck
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
revolutionary

bravo pvt1 ship s-off

hboot-6.93.1002

microp-013d

touch panel-synt0101

radio-5.11.50.26

aug 10 2010. 17:52:18

my phone is S-OFF so i guess i wont have to follow that thread where the s-off procedure is given ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Can you get into recovery/did you install a recovery?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Ok, don't panic. It's the last thing that you need right now.

We will attempt to install 4ext recovery through the PB99IMG method:

Download this:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1631968&d=1357780284

And follow the instructions here (ignore the parts about the 2.3 RUU)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45298337&postcount=21

Thank God Chromium is here too! I really need a nap...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
i downloaded the pb99img folder ... put it in my sd card ... reboored my phone ... in hbott it asked 4 update i did so ... after updating i installed 4ext recovery but it shows me message that my phone isnt rooted and it wont work
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
You dont need root to install something via PB99IMG. Where do you get this message, and can you be more precise on what it says?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
o 1 more thing it says i dont have busybox on my phone and i cant use 4ext recovery without it and below that states ur phone isnt rooted
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Did you flash the superuser zip abaaaabbbb63 linked a page back? If not then youre phone isnt rooted, and the messages arent lying to you.

What is your overall goal?: 1. root stock rom (crappy...dont choose this) 2. install a custom rom that comes rooted (better option...choose this)

^Pick an option, and i'll guide you through it. You should really pick the second option.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
chromium dude i was following the thread as usual ... i had to follow the partioning guide abt sd ... i did so ... i didnt know my phone as rooted or not so 1st i follow the 1st step for rooted phone didnt work ... then i went towards the image procedure that pg99img one ... it asked do u want to start the update i volumed up and offcourse it was yes ... it did ... but my 4ext isnt working
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Ok well it makes sense that installing 4ext via the app didnt work as it requires root access, and at that point you didnt flash the supersu zip meaning you didnt have root access. Sorry i should've been more concise on that bit. So you went on to installing it using the wonderful PB99IMG guide made by abaaaabbbb63, and it installed successfully...correct?

Anyways, what do you mean by "my 4ext isnt working"? That really doesnt tell me anything, and without some proper explaining we wont get anywhere.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
tell me how can i check whether my memory is enhanced or not ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
lol man, youve completely disregarded my last 4 posts. Answer some of my questions first before i can help you:

What do you mean by "my 4ext isnt working"?

Are you still running the stock rom, and does it boot/function properly?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
pufff . chrom dude i just wanted my phone to have some memory so that i can use multiple applications ... i used that pg99img method and it worked ... the update was done ... after that i installed the 4est soft ... ran it but it pop up a message that ur phone is not rooted i pressed ok it poppd up another message that u need busybox without it u cant use this software ... i restarted my phone ... it asked again abt the recovery update i pressed no and suddenly that 4ext software opened just like in images ... i followed the instructions there ... u know the tools then partition sd card ... i did all ... now i dont really know where am i standing ... am i done or not ... one more thing my sd card memory is 1gb low shown in settings it was 3.69 before now its 2.69 but the phone memory vacant is still same 45 mb ... any more thing u wana know ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankonia:
I also would like to know how this rooting of the HTC works.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
oh btw ... i just connected my phone as a disk and its ll new ... everything wiped out ... still my phone is the same ... what to do man ... wot abt that lost 1 Gb space from sd card where it went ??
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Ok thanks. You installed 4ext recovery successfully via PB99IMG, so it wasnt necessary to install it again through the app (plus it didnt even work since you dont have root). The 1gb is gone because you created the ext partition that is currently not being recognized and used...that will change in a bit if you follow my instructions. Right now you've got s-off, a custom recovery, an ext partition (that is not in use at the moment). So the answer to the question is no...youre not done yet. Nothing you have done is being taken advantage of yet, so this is what you need to do now (follow the instructions carefully, and if you are confused about something ask...dont just start guessing):

1. Download Milwild's redux rom and copy it to your sdcard. Doesnt matter where you copy it...just remember where you put it.

2. Turn the phone off. Hold volume down + power to get into the bootloader, then use volume down to highlight RECOVERY and power to select it.

3. You should now be in 4ext recovery. Click on "wipe | format", and then "format all partitions (except sdcard)". **This wipes everything on your phone (except your sdcard)**

4. Go back to the main menu of 4ext. Click on "install from sdcard" > "choose zip from sdcard". Then browse to where you copied the rom that you downloaded in step 1, and click on it. Click on the checkmark to confirm the installation.

5. Go back to the main menu of 4ext, and choose "reboot now". When your phone turns back on you will be running Mildwild redux rom. At this point you are now rooted, and a2sd will move your apps and dalvik cache to your partition that you made. You should notice that you are now able to install more apps than usual.

Read my little write up/guide here. After step 5 stop. At this point you will be s-off, have a custom recovery installed, and an ext partition (which will allow you to have more space later). Then read what i wrote above to complete the process. After that you will have a custom rom installed, be rooted, and a2sd will be running (which will automatically move apps to the partition you created earlier, giving you more space).
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
in 4ext main menu ... there is no option install zip from sd card ... there is one but it states install from sd card right below the reboot now option
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Yep, thats the one. Sorry.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
ok done ... i got this new interface ... new icons bla bla ... how to check memory thing chrome ... koz it states my sd card has that same 2.69 gb and phone has 145 mb
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddiehk6:
Joining this a few pages late after replying first

[MENTION=4883664]Chromium_[/MENTION], good idea to mention changing hboot before flashing certain roms to maximise space. There's a reason now his memory still reads exactly the same as it was on stock and he has no clue why unfortunately.

[MENTION=5421200]farrukhzaman[/MENTION]

I know it's a bit late to be saying this, and I know from your responses that you're probably going to ignore me. Your attitude at the start was "I don't want to read or learn how to do anything, if I have to read I can't be bothered"

I put the guide right at the start because that's the way most people learn. There was no need to link any others because the information is all there. You should still read them...they're designed for users with no prior experience at all, many people have learnt this way successfully, and you're not the only person to have attempted this ;)

You've been helped very kindly here by other users step by step, but it is a bit of spoon feeding, most of the time we're just paraphrasing what's already in the guides. Chromium's even had the patience to write out the step by step guide out for you (twice!)

I think you just expect everything and your expanded memory to just work...without learning how or where your memory is actually used in the first place. My worry is that there's a danger in the future you may go flashing or installing other things without reading about what they do beforehand.

If you listen to any bit of my advice...simply slow down in what you're doing, and read a bit more. You'll learn a surprising amount this way :D
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
This is always a pain to explain :p. Basically this is how it works: When you install an app, the data will be placed on your internal storage (148mb total), and the actual app (apk) will go to your partition on the sdcard. Your internal memory will always just show 145mb...not 145mb + the size of your ext partition. But rest assured, that it is working as long as you created the partition correctly (which i believe you did). Try installing some apps from the playstore, and you should notice that you wont get memory errors for a while. If you want to be even more efficient and turn your 145mb internal storage into 330mb, giving you more space for app data let me know and ill guide you through that.

Just to give you an idea of how many apps you can install with your current setup: im running the stock hboot + 1gb ext partition (same as what you have) and ive got 57 apps installed with 300mb left on my ext partition and 20mb left on my internal partition.

---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:25 PM ----------

Yea i always end up forgetting about that, and then you have to come in and remind/teach the user about hboots and internal memory (which you are great at btw) :p

Hopefully he reads what you said, as your posts are always very valuable and full of knowledge that he can learn from. :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddiehk6:
Haha no worries easy one to miss. I don't know how you guys have the patience sometimes. I saw his first response, but I was having a busy day...couldn't summon the strength to write a reply about patience and learning and reading the guides already there that people have spent ages writing for beginners just like him...

I should really get round to writing a guide about the hboots though...
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
well i ll make a detail check on it tomorrow ... then ll let u guys know what are the updates :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Lol, i must say i had a couple of these moments on those first few responses. But yeah, you should definitely consider creating a guide on how hboots and the internal memory work. You always explain the whole concept very well. ;)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
hi guys ... eddi i guess that dragon guy then chrome and last but not least my friend joker ... thanks a lot mates ... issue is resolved ... m happy ... installed few applications and yeah the effects are clear ... thanks once again ... now as 4 eddi that guide thing ... actually m no technical person u see so i have no clue about all the stuff u guys wrote and talk abt and neither i wana b a pro like u all are and believe me i didnt had any idea what am i doing it was all happening itelf and i mentioned it to chrome as well that out of nowhere that 4est appeared by itself :) ... i thought i wld get someone 2 guide me through which u guys did awesomely and m really grateful ... my suggestion is make a very easy simple definitive kinda guide like in whichi u tell what is hboot what is recovery what is internal memory u etc u see it ll help and 4 sure i ll read it ll 4 eddi lolzz ... btw what else i can do with my phone http://xdaforums.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
HTC sync is detecting my phone ... is that because off the drivers issue or the new ROM thing ?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
hey there is another issue my home button and menu button arnt working guys help ... where r ya all ???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
I was sleeping... probably the others are doing the same.

1. What's wrong with HTC Sync detecting the phone?

2. What did you install lately? Menu and home button problems usually come from messing around with the system. What did you do?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
i did nothing except the last night venture ... htc isnt detecting by phone ... though my phone shows that its on debugging mode but htc sync states no phone detected ... and abt the home button and menu button i did nothing ... they arnt just working at all ???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Oh. HTC Sync only works with the stock ROM. You're on MildWild, aren't you?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianj7748:
More advice for a noobie

--Revolutionary--

BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF

HBOOT-6.93.1002

MICROP-031d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.11.05.27

Aug 10 2010,17:52:18

Processor 1Ghz

Memory 576MB

Android version 2.3.5

HTC Sense version 3.5

Software number Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 S.E

Kernel version 2.6.35.10_EBfixTP2WcLsSma2OUvVddS35+

droidzone@supernova #11

Tue Jan 24 10:15:14 IST 2012

Baseband version 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27

Build number 1.27.1400.4 CL248020 release-keys

Browser version WebKit/533.1

Storage

SD Card

Total space 14GB

Available space 4.5GB

Internal storage

Available space 16MB

Had a look at Supernova as recommended here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1045824 and would be delighted to get that amount of space.

Any chance of an idiots guide on how-to? - although I did flash Runnymede!

Thanks

ianj
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Idiots guide coming right away! :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37383522
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
yup m on mildwild ... means now i cant use htc sync ... how come i can get my contacts back and messages ???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Using your Google Account.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
how ???
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
You didn't use your google account to sync all your contacts?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
nop i just sync my mobile with htc sync ... nothing else
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddiehk6:
You've still got a lot to learn outside of rooting ;)...you don't need any kind of software to run an Android phone, that's the whole point.

The main advantage of an Android phone is to use Google services to make it easier, that includes gmail, calendar and backing up contacts for instance. If you backup your contacts to google, it's much safer...if you lose your phone or sim or your PC dies, it doesn't matter, Google still keeps them safe 'in the cloud' :D

Going back to this...

Being a noob or not a technical person is not an excuse, I keep trying to explain.

No you don't need to be an expert or pro, but you should at least try to learn the basics before you attempt any of this. You keep asking how to do things before even trying to learn what you're even doing or how to do it yourself.

We can give advice and a helping hand yes, but it can get to the point of spoon feeding and is dangerous. I fear now you rushed into it, and didn't make a backup before you tried any of this.

You can keep pulling the noob card all you like, but all of us here were noobs at some point, we weren't born with this knowledge either :silly:. You're not meant to understand everything right away, it's a learning process which takes time; if you don't have time for it, then to be brutally honest you shouldn't really be doing any of this. There have been many people in your position before, but they take the time to read and as such understand things and at least learn on the way. The information is all there, you just have to search for it yourself ;)

So to get your contacts and messages back? To restore things...they need to be backed put somewhere, logical right? (When you 'full wipe', you wipe the device, you completely wipe the device so there is nothing on it)

- Did you create a nandroid backup in recovery before you wiped?

If yes there are ways to extract information from it. If you don't know what a nandroid backup is, then research it...

- Did you backup your messages before your wiped, with an app for instance?

My guess is no, but worth an ask

- Does HTC sync create a local copy of your contacts and messages?

You may need to do some research yourself on this, I've never used it. You may at least be able to extract the contact data from your PC and convert it to a format which is readable by your phone.

Case in point...if you had taken your time and read a few guides before any of this, you would have learnt how to backup important information, and you wouldn't be in this position now.

If you manage to get your contacts back, then start again here.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] farrukhzaman:
yeah i guess u r rite abt all the things u wrote ... well i synced my phone with htc ... i cant find the place where it saved my data ... research is on dude :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianj7748:
Process not responding

Hi

I've flashed Supernova and wiped as directed (as far as I can tell) but my phone is really really slow. Everything appears to work although at times I get a message saying " Process not working" with the option to "Force close" or "Wait".

Any suggestions.

Thanks
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianj7748:
ALPHA REV problem

Hi

I have messed up and am stuck with a white HTC screen.

Any chance of a step-by-step to get me back to Revolutionary

My screen now reads:

AlphaRev CM7 r2

BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-OFF

HBOOT-6.93.1002

MICROP-031d

TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101

RADIO-5.11.05.27

Aug 10 2010,17:52:18

The only thing apparently changed is Revolutionary and I can;t figure out how to get it back. Tried flashing Supernova, tried restore from earlier Nandroid but nothing seems to work.

Please

Thanks

Ian
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
It doesnt say revolutionary in your bootloader anymore because you flashed cm7r2 hboot. Supernova probably doesnt work on such a small hboot. Your options are to flash a different hboot that will work with roms that have larger system partitions, or flash a rom that'll work with your current hboot. (most of milwild roms). Pick what you want to do, then ill give you further instructions.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianj7748:
OK - and thank you so much.

My preference would be to get Revolutionary back as my hboot. I believe I would then be able to flash back to Runnymede if Supernova doesn't suit me - I have nandroid back-up!

If Mildwild is going to be the easier option then that's the one for me !!

Look forward to your instructions.

THanks

Ian
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddiehk6:
You pick an hboot relative to the ROM's /system size to maximise space basically. You'll be able to flash any mildwild ROM straight away, in some cases you could gain an extra 45MB internal memory or so by switching to OxygenR2 hboot first before flashing the rom, as some of his ROMs have less than .100MB /system size

When you say revolutionary hboot you mean 'stock' hboot. This is the least space efficient hboot as it has such a large 250MB /system and small 147MB internal memory /data partition, which is the same a before you rooted. However, some ROMs can only fit on this hboot, and space is made up by having a large sd-card partition (see here) and efficient A2SD script.

If that is your preference then you have to switch to this hboot before flashing the ROM (or restoring nandroid). However I think Runnymede may have a version which fits into cm7r2 hboot, not sure
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianj7748:
Your offer

Hi Chromium

I would be interested in your further instructions and having looked at your ROM I would be happy if I could get that look. Does that give the extra storage that Supernova would offer?

Thanks

Ian
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Sorry, forgot about this. You will need stock hboot for my rom to work. First go to alpharev.nl a download the stock hboot pb99img. Then follow these instructions to install it: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45298337&postcount=21

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A8181:
Nice thread

I know this is an old thread, but so are me and my Desire S. Lots of info in it.

Just plodded through and added, in order

S-OFF via revolutionary

4EXT via PB99IMG.zip

SuperSU-1.41+Busybox-1.20.2.zip

Titanium backup

then backed up and removed much of the HTC bloatware.

Well done Folk!

Anyone produced an aplet to add mount/use an ext4 partition on the standard Froyo image or do I need to select a custom image for that?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuthush:
htc desire a8181

dear sir,

pls help me in rooting my htc desire a8181.i am new to this.

bravo pvt3 ship s-on

hboot-0.93.0001

microp-051d

touch panel-synw0101

radio-10-5,09.05.30_2

aug 10 2010,17:52:18
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eddiehk6:
Read this very thread....the guides are already linked for you...

Please do not attempt anything until you've read the guides several times, and understand why you want to root in the first place
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuthush:
do i have to use the same applications as mentioned above.the hboot,microp all are seems to be different.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A8181:
Small update to documentation

This is a great thread but is showing its age. All the instructions work well if you use MildWild 14 from the URL http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2031467

instead of the earlier version referenced.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brookbond:
Great Work guys, I now have a rooted HTC Desire running MW9.5

I would like to thank the contributors to this thread for their information which has allowed me to root my old desire. Thanks guys, great work! I have PM'd a couple of you for a little more information if you could help.

Thanks again.

Brookbond, Tony UK
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarsVaeda:
After a factory reset you can select to restore your account.

It then automatically starts downloading all apps.

Unfortunately it always fails to download apps at some point. Sometimes even crashes.

Thereafter no more apps are downloaded.

How do I trigger it to download the rest of the apps too?

I'm on 4.2.

Thanks!