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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cybertec69:
I ran AOKP 4.4 for a day or so, not bad for the first build , but the one main issue I encountered, and it is major, is that the bluetooth does not connect, so I went back to AOKP 4.3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jsdecker10:
I could be TOTALLY wrong here, but by the looks of that site on android.com, I really think the newest version is actually gonna be called "KitKat." I signed up for e-mail updates about it and I got a "confirmation" e-mail about Android "KitKat" and its release, info, etc. I don't think it's JUST a marketing ploy.... It looks wayyyyy tooooo legit to JUST be an advert/marketing partnership.

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[OOPS...Sorry guys, I'm on the "Late Show" on this one...lol]

Nope, I think it's legit...

I just performed a simple search on Google for "Android KitKat" and got the following...

XDA-Developers - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-announces-android-4-4-kitkat/

https://www.google.com/search?q=And...pemBfO_sATOy4AQ&ved=0CC4QqAI&biw=1242&bih=692

from "Time: Tech" - http://techland.time.com/2013/09/03...t-for-the-next-version-of-android-not-a-typo/

ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/android-44-kit-kat-google-teams-nestle-version/story?id=20146239

Washington Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...3c7778-14b9-11e3-a100-66fa8fd9a50c_story.html

TechCrunch - http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/03/go...eal-with-nestle-to-name-next-android-kit-kat/

YEP!!! This "Key Lime Pie" that has been floating around for many, many months now, was simply just a bogus rumor. The next version is Android KitKat v4.4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Div033:
When I first read the news I was in a panic - I scrambled to see if it was ALREADY April 1st! After all, time has been going by rather fast for me in my mid twenties... It didn't seem completely unreasonable at the time.

But no, it was still September.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
I believe Kit Kat is the next version of Android's OS. I don't think you understood my post lol. To keep it short, I would be surprised if Verizon pushed Kit Kat to the Verizon S3. But it would be great of they did.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kujayhawks77:
I do believe that Samsung posted at some point that they would support the S3 through the next version of Android which at the time everyone assumed was KLP. I think we'll see Kitkat come to the S3 though I doubt it will be before summer 2014 while 4.3 will come late fall/early winter.

Here's my thinking why, Samsung sold a lot of S3s and most of those were not bought day one. Therefore Samsung will want to get KK to these phones to hold people over until contracts are up and then they can get them into S5s and S6s. Unlike HTC Samsung does understand customer retention.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
Hope you're right. Consumers deserve it. Not all smartphones are cheap. The hardware may get outdated but they should at least keep the software up to date for a 2 year span.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
I don't believe for a second that the S3 hardware is outdated.

On a side note, who cares if it can run KK or KLP. If the hardware could barely run the software, I wouldn't want it.

However, I do believe the S3 is quite capable of running 4.3 or 4.4 all the way up to 5.0. Just look at the nexus devices getting the updates. This phone is better and on par with them.

It's all about the Benjamins, people.

If you want the latest updates, buy a freaking Nexus device. Otherwise, quit whining about not recieving the latest update on your carrier device.

Or root and flash a custom rom. There are plenty of them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
S3 hardware is still good. In no way is it NOT capable running 4.3 or even 4.4. I'm speaking from a Samsung/Verizon perspective, just what I think. It makes more sense to support the newer stuff for them than it does to keep supporting older devices. They're pushing consumers to buy the S4 now along with S4 active, 6.3 Mega, Note 3 (soon) and whatever else they have 2013 +. It would be great if they still supported the S3. I'm not saying they stopped but I'd be surprised in a good way if the Verizon S3 got 4.4 Kit Kat. That would be awesome.

Speaking for myself personally I think Nexus Devices R the way to go for enthusiast like us who like to Root, Hack/Mod, etc our smartphones. My Nexus 7 (2013) is so smooth and silky. I love it. Just waiting to see what the next gen Nexus brings before I jump ship.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
Exactly. It's not in their best interest to keep up support for older yet capable devices.

Also, what someone else said before. Samsung and VZW and every other carrier doesn't owe us anything. All they want is your money.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
It's not a matter of owing consumers. We pay them money for service & a product (phone). It's a matter of what we get for our money in return. It's not like buying a car or a house where we can increase it's value by putting work into it. I don't think supporting a device for at least a time span of a 2 year contract is too much to give consumers for the money we pay them. But it's not up to us what we get. Their job is to make money off consumers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] resudo:
Well I don't really think that 4.4 KitKat will be the next version of android. I don't know why but it just doesn't sound right. I mean all these hints from Google about klp for nothing? If you remember a Google employee had posted a picture of android eating klp which actually "confirmed" klp as the next version of android for me. It could be a marketing trick, like they show kitkat and then release 5.0 KLP . It could be a small "lie" from Google so that it keeps us thinking that they release 4.4 and then, boum they release 5.0. I could be wrong but I don't think 4.4 will be next version of android if you think how many android versions 4+ has supported (4.0, 4.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, and now 4.4???) All other android version numbers were supporting no more than two versions of android (1.5, 2.0, 2.2, 3.0,) Also I don't think Google would use a copyrighted name as their next version of android. Like I said, this could be a "trick" from Google or I could be totally wrong :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KyleKutta:
Just a little off topic side note...( FYI )

Cars don't increase their valve by keeping up them/repairing/modifying them, they actually loss value the second you drive it off the lot. unless its 25 years or older. Then its considered antic.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KillerBytes:
If they don't release it on the GS3, someone from XDA would make it available to us. I'd donate lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
I know, I use to work at Toyota. But they keep value better than a phone does. A car you can keep it as new as you want by putting in work. Parts can be replaced. It won't hold it's "brand new" value but you can make money when you sell it. If not profit then at least break even or close to it. My S3 is pretty much mint condition. I don't have any scuffs, marks, scratches, dents, etc. But I can't even get rid of it for $300 on Craig's list right now. Gotta lower the price. It cost me over $600 brand new.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
That's why we have choices when it comes to smartphones or phones in general.

I'm sure you knew that when you bought the phone, you wouldn't get half the cost back.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jmxc23:
Well at least we get the last official Jelly Bean update next month on Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dpeeps74:
So you think that both nestle and Google are conspiring to mislead everyone over a code name? Copyrighted names are regularly used for this purpose. Most companies just don't allow them to become as publicly known as happens with android. There's several links posted just a few up and many more can be found in a Google search. Everything indicates that it was klp or key lime pie up until earlier this year. It's a marketing gamble for both nestle and Google. Companies looking for creative ways to make a few more bucks shouldn't be any real surprise.

Sent from my Slim GS3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dohturdima:
If the Nexus devices actually had semi-decent hardware, would do it in a heartbeat. Alas, they don't and with VZW Nexus updates aren't truly "Nexus-like" with their delays. I don't care much for custom roms as I actually like/need everything to work as intended, which has never been my experience with them (bugs) as phone manufacturers do not release a lot of proprietary code needed to properly squish them. While I understand the carrier plan to clip more $ by purposefully reserving the latest OS for newest devices with Google's complicity & leaving the previous gen phones SOL, don't necessarily have to like it. My S3 is running problem-free stock debloated now and for the foreseeable future, but when the time comes fot my next VZW upgrade will seriosly consider doing the previously unthinkable, going Apple.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
When I bought the S3 I figured it probably won't get software updates too frequently. It's a Samsung phone I bought, not a Google. At the time I got it there wasn't any better options during that period on Verizon. I tried the Razr/Razr Maxx/Razr HD, iPhone 5, didn't want a Galaxy Nexus, so the S3 was my choice. I've learned what I like & don't like when it comes to smartphones. How I use my phone the most on a daily basis. Verizon is awesome for service. But there's things about them I really can't stand aside from the service.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Are you actually saying the quad core in the N4 is not semi-decent? I don't know what you consider semi-decent hardware but my N4 runs much smoother then my GS3 does which in the end is what really counts.

Now that I am finally away from CDMA and locked phones I will not be purchasing any other phone but a Nexus as long as they keep making them and it continues to be Googles phone when it comes to updates.

Do I really need 8 cores or 16 cores in my phone? How much more power do you really need in a phone. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my S3 but I did not use one feature that Samsung added to it. They all sounded cool on paper but not in real life use. Actually, there was one thing I liked. The vibrate notification when you picked up the phone and had a message of some sort.

At this point with where phone technology is, I am more interested in updates and having the latest OS over having more powerful phones with a ton of gimmicks that I won't use anyway.

There is definitley a market for Samsung and HTC phones and I totally understand why people buy them but for Android enthusiests, there is nothing better then a Nexus.

Now when Google announces their new OS, it is great knowing you will have it once it is released. It makes OS updates much more exciting then having a Samsung phone and wondering if they will release an update in a years time. When I had a Samsung or HTC phone, I would not be ahppy about Google's announcments of new OS upgrades. It would just make me want something I could not have.

Sure there are custom Roms but on my S3 I was never able to run AOSP roms because there was always something wrong with it and while people say there are perfect, there was always some issue but some people were able to over look them but that should not be mistaken for running perfect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
Nova launcher runs silky smooth on AOSP. I was running AOSP based Rom a few weeks ago and Nova seemed to be more optimized and smoother on it. When I run Nova on TouchWiz I get a few stutters/choppiness. I'm almost about to say eff it and get the Nexus 4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dohturdima:
Should have clarified - the last VZW Nexus phone had crap hardware (radio et al), N4 is not available on VZW (and I am not about to jump carriers again) and it's not all that clear whether N5 will be available on Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
I sold my mint condition S3 on eBay the other day. I started the bid at $249 and it was sold at $249 with 1 bid. I was actually shocked and was expecting to at least hit $300. I am okay with it though because it covered the price of my N4 which was all I really needed it to do but still.

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Oh, that's better. Yeah, I had a GNEX on Verizon and it was terrible. The N4 is in another league. I also think the GSM radios did not have issues like we did on Verizon. Also the Verizon GNEX battery life was a joke. I was lucky to get 2 hours of on screen time with an extended battery.

GSM guys were hitting like 4-5 hours on screen time.

Camera also sucked in the GNEX. I think Samsung did not want to make a great device because they wanted to sell their GS3's that was about to hit the market not much after the GNEX release. Heck my GS2 camera was much better then the GNEX camera. They put a camera in that thing from something you would have seen like 4 years ago. I hope Samsung does not make any GNEX's in the future!

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What's holding you back?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Div033:
Do you guys think this version is going to be the revamp it's been rumored to be?

Rumors indicated that this K version would bring sweeping changes and be a "from the ground up" overhaul to bring better performance through many optimizations, notably on older/slower hardware. The reveal of Kitkat being 4.4 has me doubting the rumor, but the fact that they're advertising a "kitkat for everyone" (meaning there's a kitkat for all devices, no matter how fast or slow) has me thinking it's at least partly true.

I'm hoping it brings better performance across the board, so that even old devices like the OG Incredible can benefit from the changes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
It all depends on which tw Rom you're on. I'm on hyperdrive( tw based) and the launchers that come with it are smooth and not choppy at all. I also had zero choppiness on MOAR Rom as well. I don't care for the stock tw launcher though. It is ugly and very uncustomizable. The Xperia launcher on this Rom is awesome and smooth though. I am on my fourth tw Rom in under a week trying to get a feel for them. I have also tried bonestock and jellybeans. Didn't care for the faux aosp look of jellybeans. The only drawback of aosp roms for me is the aosp camera.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
Next gen Nexus. If it's coming around November I'd rather wait. Not that I need the latest n greatest specs/device, I just want to see what it brings to the table first in hopes it has a decent camera lens or at least a better one than the Nexus 4. Two of my family members already have the Nexus 4 so I'm familiar with it's picture quality. I can deal with non expandable memory and all that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
At $250, even if you sell it for $100-$150 it is not much of a loss. Plus once Google runs out of them I am sure it will not be hard to sell. What other unlocked phone can people purchase in that price range that can even come close to the N4.

Heck, depending on the price of the new Nexus it might even pay to just keep the N4 as a backup. I will definitley be purchasing the new Nexus, it just depends on when...Knowing we will get updated to Kit-Kit in no time, I am sure I will be able to rock the N4 for a little while and not feel the need to run out and buy the new one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Thank Me Later:
The price is very tempting!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KillerBytes:
What I want to know is, WHY did they put dual cores in the GS3 when it would be capable with a Quad core CPU?!?!?!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
I can be wrong on this but I think it had to do with having LTE. The dual core actually benchmarks the same as some of the quad cores so I do not think that it really has a negative effect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] KillerBytes:
Still, it would be nice for additional processing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DubleJayJ:
There will never be another Nexus phone on VZW. Google wants their device to be pure Google. VZW wants to shove their bloatware down our throats and Google doesn't like that. It's a miracle the Nexus actually got through.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Div033:
Yeah I'm thinking this is true, especially since the LG Nexus just passed through the FCC with LTE compatibility for Sprint, T-Mobile and At&t. Notice who's missing? Lol

If the new LG nexus and Moto nexus do not go to Verizon, I will greatly consider getting a Developer Edition Moto X as that will be the closest we can get to nexus.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
What is the Moto Nexus? Also, the developer edition Moto X is nothing like a Nexus device. It is the same exact phone as the one you would buy from Verizon but has an ulockable bootloader. Once the dev's unlock the Verizon version then it pretty much makes the dev edition pointless.

And if the Moto X cannot be unlocked by the Dev's that phone will be pointless to buy if tinkering and flashing is your thing. There won't be enough people buying the dev edition at full price to make up a development community.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
lol "Once the dev's unlock the Verizon version"? Expect the same situation as the VZW S4. It's only getting more difficult on Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Div033:
I highly doubt the devs will be able to unlock the X. They'll see safestrap at best. This is the way its been on moto devices for a long time.

The moto nexus is a rumored device. Taylor Wimberly mentioned that motorola will have a nexus device this fall, so we're waiting to see what that amounts to.

If neither nexi come to Verizon then the moto x will be the only phone on Verizon that has an official presence behind a (mostly) stock android experience. Cyanogenmod is in perpetual development and hasn't truly been stable since gingerbread. Despite that I've been running a damn good build of 10.1 for the past two months it still has its issues and quirks and can't match the feature sets or stability level of what the manufacturer puts out.

It's true that the development community will be far weaker, but it might be worth it if there's no need to be constantly flashing in the first place.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] eman3316@optonline.net:
Have they not been able to unlock the S4?

I am telling you. Dump Verizon, pick up a Nexus 4 and go pre-paid! Verizon is just ruining the Android experience for phone geeks. It is our phones, let us do what we want to them. Damn, it is not like they do not charge enough to cover the few that brick their devices.

The amount of people that unlock their phones compared to how many devices they sell is minimal. The amount of people that brick their phones in that small number of people that unlock their phones is even smaller!

Verizon is just a corporate bully laughing all the way to the bank!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Long story short, they have root and roms but their last OTA a couple months all but locked the device down. I fully plan to go GSM next year when my contract expires. In the mean time, I'm enjoying the releases and coverage of new devices.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prenedo:
Wow, I've heard about that, but didn't know s4 was still locked down (makes sense though). I got this phone pre release, sitting on an unlimited plan. It's gonna take a lot to get me to 'upgrade'. It doesn't seem that Google is making any big changes to android yet, but it is nice to see these new phones drop... Makes me realize how lucky I/we got it. Solid dev support, quick phone, decent camera, etc... The only phone I've been jealous of is the waterproof s4, and I'm only jealous of that cos it's waterproof, lol.

I don't see kit kat being the overhaul we've been waiting for. I'm speculating that Google was in the middle of overhauling the OS and decided to start over; probably putting us into fall of next year before releasing a new 'Android' experience. Wouldn't be surprised if that's why the name changed (now they can make a big deal of it, because of the Kit Kat sponsorship)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
The i535 won't get Kitkat. Period.

i9300? Extremely unlikely.

If you want to run Android 4.4 on your i535 like I will, then learn to flash CM, PA, or AOKP. I'm running 4.3 and it feels damn good. It's a shame that people still swear by stock roms and have settled for 4.1.2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] alquimista:
This makes me want a candy bar so bad!!

On another note, I don't see Kit Kat making it to the S3, at least not through Sammy or Verizon. If some very nice devs can get a port hacked together that might happen, other than that its off my radar.

Ta,

ALQI
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tburns:
If you go pre paid and dump Verizon and plan to travel out of a major city, good luck with that. I'm paying the high costs for coverage and no roaming costs and unlimited data. Pre paid is for city folk only.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SDQB17:
Do you all think that Verizon will actually deliver KitKat to us S3 users?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dodgebizkit:
They will - Samsung and Google want the latest android on as many devices as possible

If this sorts out the 1gig ram being insuffient on the int s3 I'll miss my old s3 I think lol but overall I don't miss too many TW features just amoled really

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Comp625:
I hope I'm wrong, but I think we will see KitKat

eventually

but definitely nowhere in the near future relative to when AOSP 4.4 is released. By then, everyone's going to have migrated over to another phone (a la S4 Google Edition)!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ECrispy:
There isn't a chance in hell we see 4.4 on the S3 before the S5 is announced/launched. Just do the basic math -

4.4 announced - Nov 2013 earliest

4.4 source released - Dec 2013

Samsung updates to 4.4 - add 2 months

VZW certification - 6 months
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] resudo:
4.4 will be released in october.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Will get 4.3 for S3 fairly soon so they can sell the smart watch. That is the only reason. 4.4 when AOSP code is released and ported to S3. Maybe 6-12 months from now. Will probably never be a TW 4.4 released although it has been promised by Samsung. Maybe on International Version. Never on Verizon. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] resudo:
Yeah, verizon has been really sh*tty delivering ROMs as I know. Don't forget that S3 is still a great high-end phone, one of the most popular phones ever existed and has great development on xda too. I can't find the problem here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
Unfortunately, in 6-12 months this phone will seem old and outdated to a lot of people. Just look at the the new phones coming out. And just wait until the Nexus 5 is released.

Manufacturers are constantly coming up with new hardware and as a result they are trying to put software on them that pushes them to the limits of the hardware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
Google says their goal in 2014 is to have one version of Android for all phones, even old, outdated, low end phones. Kit Kat is supposed to deliver on that. It uses less memory and improves functionality in such a way that all phones running Android can use 4.4 and up.

Hopefully, This will end the crap vzw pulls, delaying updates for far too long. It may not be immediate, but looks to be a big step in the right direction.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Restola:
That has nothing to do with samsung forcing TW on everything, or vzw's testing process. No reason to think that will make a difference for either of these companies.