yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Well I'd say it was something I did but nothing I did should influence 3rd party camera apps. Perhaps go back to full stock and see if the problem still exists? A logcat might have some useful info as well - if you grab one send it my way and I'll take a peek.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jlanik4:
Might try going back to stock, though I will say I have occasionally had the same problem with Tweaked 3.2 as well. Perhaps a reflash. I didnt odin back to EP4D, just flashed directly from Tweaked 3.2 on FP5. Ill try redownloading first.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jco23:
never had problem with taking pictures.

my issue now, though, is that I'm not so sure the wifi only mod is working. checking the battery usage, and 53% over a 4 hour period was dedicated to "cell standby"...
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
Check post 23 and 25 here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44773383

also give it a charge cycle or two... and/or run thru the 13 step battery calibration thread....

I ran the calibration then things "seemed right" after a few days or normal usage.

My conclusion was to ignore cellstand in the stock menu and enjoy the longer batterlife 1.3%/hr per BBS. (Large % skewed... large portion of a small actual drain.)

YMMV based on ussge and your physical battery.

(I.e. only expect ~4 hours or so of constant netflix)

After running thru the battery calibration if you are not happy... might be time for a new battery, $5 from ebay. :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] jco23:
right. the idea is to improve battery life first, and improve performance second (although, the two go hand in hand). but if you feel confident to ignore the cell standby, then I'm fine with that. thanks for the feedback!
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
Be gentle for I am android n00b... not 100% sure how cell standby is reported... (I will look into it)

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Edit:

Good explanation of all things relative: These percentages should not be compared from one time to another; you should only use them as a guide to relative power consumption. Keep in mind that 100% of battery usage is not always the same. Just for an example, assume that cell standby consumes 10mw, the display 50mw, and other miscellaneous use consumes 40mw. In this case, your total use would be 100mw, and cell standby would be consuming 10%. If you turn the display off without changing anything else, cell standby would still be 10mw, but would show as 20%, since your total consumption is now just 50mw

From here, a good read: http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...-and-how-can-i-keep-it-from-eating-my-battery

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Prelimarily the radio script only debugs the radio off (where hardware resources can drain battery). So anything that calls radio that is no longer activated is going less battery "damage". (i.e. the water still running, but we kinked the hose to shut it off.)

I suppose a CWM mod could be developed to more aggressively remove "phone bits" .

However we get into the land of "did ya break it" and inter dependencies rather quickly. Now that there is a stable tweaked FP8 basis the ? May be worth investigating... no promises though!

If Dwith doesn't want the chatter here... Feel free to run wifi only q/a, tips tricks, report what you froze or deleted from system, etc. at my old wifi only thread. (since it is now a tweaked mod thing) being aware of the expierence/tinkering of others might help me get more agressive with the Mod.

Thanks for using it... and the feedback!
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
I have a new BBC log on this Mod (edit: & wifi only tweak) and found 0.5%/hr while the phone was not in use for 7~ hrs. Unfortunately I didn't have to it given SU permission so network activity was not recorded. If bbs is trustworthy and the data applicable to measuring cell usage, I'd say it's darn near perfect when the on standby etc.

Log: http://db.tt/abwz2bZt
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Fwiw - I imagine the user base is rather small nowadays so feel free to wifi-only chatter wherever - no worries on it being here as far as I'm concerned :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Justblazeitup:
Hey thanks for this. I still use my charge daily as wifi only.

Im wanting to upgrade from tweaked 3.2. I am going to odin back and ota up but once im there, how do i gain root and get cwm.. I cant remember or find it here for some reason.

EDIT : found instructions
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
Glad you found it...

In case anyone else is wondering this thread HERE has a link to a site with all the necessary downloads...

And there is also link to a nice "how to root" summary by JihadSquad, see the "Other Note" section.

(Note: FP1, FP5, FP8 all same instructions... just a few more OTA's if doing a fresh return to stock.)

Cool, thanks Dwith! (Just didn't want run rampant with WIFI only on your thread without permission.)
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Never mind my battery stats. The battery calibration didnt work and im getting "random" power downs. Once at 86 another around 34 etc... I wonder if it's the battery age, how long does the battery stay strong? 2yrs? I think the phone is on it's third+ year of activity.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Justblazeitup:
Yea my battery drains horribly. Prolly time for a new one for me
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
Is the kernel and radio included in the tweaked zip? Is it stock fp8 kernel

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
it is not, at least it wasn't last i checked... ;) You should be okay if you flash the FP8 Kernel zip... not sure about radio's though (I've never messed with flashing baseband or baseband updates, always retrun to stock and OTA, OTA, OTA!)

Battery Stuffs:

Battery life is kind of one of those varies by battery and usage (discharge/recharge) pattern things. I've had older batteries that have lasted a long time and others that seemed to "die" fast.

I just checked after ~2.5 days one of my phones is still at 50% with a 0.8%/h drain.

Really consider giving that calibration thread a try... and wait for a "handful" of recharge cycles. Specifically it is important to have phone powered on during the recharge cycle (for initial calibration efforts for sure, I often did that anyway during daily use).

The other think to consider is that constant MP3 decoding during media player usage, etc. will probably be a heavier hitter than you may be used to. I didn't use it for media when it was my daily driver phone, so I was surprised to only get ~6.5 to 7.5 hours of straight MP3 playing (less than a full work day anyway).

Might have just been my n00b showing though.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Some thoughts and comments...

- The rom does not come w/ kernel or modem. There are links in the OP to where you can get such things, but the rom itself is ONLY the /system partition stuff

- Batteries do fade over time... the duration varies based on usage and likely idiosyncratic production differences (for some reason I feel there is a finite number of charge cycles one can typically expect from a particular battery type), but if the battery is over two years old my guess is it has definitely lived a long and healthy life! I had to get one after about a year as the other just wouldn't hold a charge like it used to (though I ended up flashing back to full stock for a bit to convince myself of such things lol). I'm pretty sure you can get such things on the cheap nowadays - might be worth checking out :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
Im sorry guys I asked the wrong question. All three of my kids charges are running on fp8 and eclipse rom. So I guess I would just have to flash tweaked since I already am using the fp8 kernel correct?

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] tmanschuette:
Just going to drop these off here...

/disappearsintotheworkingworld

:beer:

http://signatures.mobile-overload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sig-cm-5.png
[Verizon Droid Charge] Justblazeitup:
^ thanks for this. Ill be looking to get one soon. Screen on, i can lose 3% in 5 min. Phone gets hot doing anything now. No battery app helps lol.

They verified to be official and not a knock off?
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
Guys I bought this one for 2 of the 3 charges I have about 3 weeks ago and it is performing really well. My daughters listen to music all day and watch yiu tube videos and they get about 3 days out of the battery. I ordered it from amazon if anyone needs ill find the link.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] Justblazeitup:
Ive been looking but dont want a fake
[Verizon Droid Charge] tmanschuette:
Usually eBay and Amazon have return policies, and always check the ratings of the sellers. Bad percentages could mean bad/fake products.

http://signatures.mobile-overload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sig-cm-5.png
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
Ibactuallybdecided on the one in the pic because it got the best reviews. Theyve been great so far.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
I realize the user base is pretty small, and it hasn't been posted for all that long yet, but just thought I'd pop in and see how things were going... any issues? All is well? Thoughts/feedback?
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
I havent had the chance to try it yet. I will this week though and ill post some feed back. Thanks

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
I have disabled radios and use it as a wifi only "iPod"-ish android media player/nano tablet. As such no issues to date.

That said, I haven't used it as a "real" daily driver phone for more than a few hours of testing...

It would be very interesting to hear back from a actual cell phone, daily driver type user or two

.

:)
[Verizon Droid Charge] SYNYST3R1:
I have been having problems loading some websites. Does the rom have a modded hosts file? I don't have an adblocker installed and I don't have the adblock in tweaktools enabled so I'm not sure what is up with it. I tried to use adfree and revert the hosts file, but it didn't change anything.

Besides that no problems. I use it as my daily phone and the battery is great. The performance is the best I have seen on this phone and probably the best it will ever get.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Hmm... I don't believe I included it as default but I'll double-check. I'll keep you posted on this, and thanks for the feedback!
[Verizon Droid Charge] SYNYST3R1:
Okay, thank you. No problem I'm always happy to give feedback
[Verizon Droid Charge] SpiffyRob:
You're right, dwith. The least I could do is give you some feedback. :)

But I don't really have anything useful to give! Everything's been buttery smooth, and I haven't run into any issues using it as my daily driver. Battery life is comparable or better than stock, even with the original 2+ year old battery. Will let you know if I spot anything funny, but so far, so good.
[Verizon Droid Charge] matalo:
My only issues are that Gmail doesn't sync properly but that's minor. I can manually sync.
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Besides my battery woes (new one coming soon), I've noticed that the regular browser loads quite awkwardly and sometimes even begins auto-reloading a page when I zoom in. No real idea if this is only related to the stock browser for the Charge or if it's a regular bug.

I tried Firefox and found it okay but had some odd quirks too. I am now trying out UC Browser Mini (If only I could get it to sync to Google for my bookmarks!) I like how it's lightweight. Any suggestions on a browser that can sync with google? I'll probably keep "shopping" around. Too bad it's not the stock JB Browser! It would have done the job just fine.

I'm slowly TitaniumBackup freezing phone-related apps and posting my results in jheide44's thread. If ya'll like I can move my findings over here for an Extremely Lite Tweaked. if I'm being too eager to help just say the word and I'll shut up. Anyway, awesome job with the ROM.

Edit: I forgot to mention it looks like the SDcard is scanned twice for long periods when I boot up. Is this double scan normal for the Charge?
[Verizon Droid Charge] sshafranko:
Im curious about the freeze apps as I have to do it on 3 phones also so it would be cool if I could jist follow your guide. No biggie tho I can check it out in j's thread too + I wont be doing it for a couple days Thanks

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Hmm... well I looked and the hosts file bit is not added as default - it's just the stock FP8 one. Curious now... could you give me an example of a website?

Yeah this seems to happen for some in a no-detectable-rhyme-or-reason sort of way across devices. One option - use tweaktools to delete the Gmail system app, then install it from the play store. It might help :)

The included browser is actually the aosp gingerbread browser, and it does have its quirks. That being said I thought the TW one had them as well which is why I opted for the aosp flavor. If folks were interested I could put together something to go back to the stock touchwiz browser.

As far as sharing the freeze stuff - while more relevant to the other thread, really it's a small group now so feel free to share here. It is related after all, so no worries there.

The double media scan happens on stock FP8 as well... not really sure what that is all about, but it's "normal" behavior anyway :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
GMail: It seems to sync just fine for me. I get "DROOOIIIID" Every now and again. Unless I did uninstall it and reinstall it, TitaniumBackup says it's a system app.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jco23:
running quite well for me/my son. google hangouts works fine, gmail syncs fine, internet connectivity seems strong.

i'm thinking that the wifi only mod is working as it should, but still suspect that there is some lingering process.... i'm wondering if there is a script that will automatically enable wifi while in airplane mode on boot-up.
[Verizon Droid Charge] matalo:
I had to uninstall, clean cache, reboot, and then reinstall for this to work properly.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
Huh - while a funny app now and then isn't overly surprising, I wonder what drives the differenatiation seen in outcomes here... regardless, glad it got fixed for you. Are there many suffering from this? If so I could whip up a flashable to aid in the uninstall/reinstall process.
[Verizon Droid Charge] tmanschuette:
Well not sure about stock based ROMs, or even TW in general for that matter (don't have the phone anymore), but some of the aosp ROMs are getting issues with a messed up cache caused by restoring apps. Google services and Google services framework somehow get their data messed up and need to be wiped from settings.

Just my two cents though.

Anyone having issues restore TiBu backups?

http://signatures.mobile-overload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sig-cm-5.png
[Verizon Droid Charge] jheide44:
Host File Mod

Yeah host file thing was not defalut... day late dollar short!

The TT option remains, however...

Side Note:

The host file option in tweaktools was not updated either, I pulled down and carried forward the historical static file from tonsit's web server. just dropped it HERE. (i.e. Probably quite stale by now.)

We briefly kicked around the idea of making it dynamic and possibly enabling cron to schedule "auto" updates. Honestly I have made relatively little progress on that angle... since pointing my n00b at the new device.

Until then here is the link to adfree (since "they" took it off google play)

http://adfree.bigtincan.com/
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
I've been running AdAway, I take it that's why I didn't notice anything funny.
[Verizon Droid Charge] SYNYST3R1:
The reason for sites being blocked was my own silly mistake. I have crossbreeder mod installed and it has it's own adblocker. I forgot I even had it installed. Idk why it all of sudden started blocking websites, but all is good now that I disabled the adblocker.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ezas:
Just wanted to post my experience (not in a bad way just an FWIW way)

I installed this over Tweak 3.2 using reset/wipes of course. And I had lots of problems with battery drain while the phone was sleeping (dialer process). I did some troubleshooting and couldn't resolve the problem.

And this is the FWIW part. I decided that since this will be my last daily driver rom on this device, I decided to do it 'right' and go back to stock.

Update: It is running great. I'll be beating on it harder today. I want to see just how stripped down I can make it since it will only be a media player and GPS device.
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
I'm getting to a point where I'm tired of playing with the apps but Im also quite satisfied with my testing of removing apps for the WiFi Only Tweak.

See my major reorganization in jheide44's thread.

As for those concerned about the Dialer: Flip on Airplane Mode then flip on WiFi.

See the difference? Red was when the dialer was active (Android is searching for service). Blank is when I flipped on Airplane Mode. Unfortunately, I don't have a BBS log for it so I can only offer a screenshot of the dialer in settings. I hope this is useful to some.

By the way, this ROM is absolutely smooth. Everything works so well and quick it almost makes me want to make this my main phone...
[Verizon Droid Charge] Chocoburger:
I'm a bit shocked and quite impressed that you've managed to continue supporting this phone, Dwith. I finally (FINALLY) got a new phone now, the Nexus 4, and its been amazing getting away from the Charge. I really hated this awful phone on Samsung's software, and you and the other custom devs were the only people able to make this phone decent. So thanks for all the time and effort you put into it. I happily donated to you 3 times over the years for making my phone usable, and I would have donated all over again if I had to relive using this crap phone. Moving on, I'm wondering, does this new ROM come with any CPU/GPU/RAM improvements over Tweaked 3.2? Is it faster/smoother/etc? I say this because my music player (called Rocket Player) would at times stop working for no reason (i.e. no other apps was being used just music, and the screen was off). This made my Charge a poor-man's version of an iPod Touch, where my iPod was actually 100% dependable, my Charge was not.

That said, my Charge is retired as a daily driver, and now I've switched service providers I do have a question, sorry if this has been asked a bunch of times, but this is somewhat related to Tweaked so I'll ask here. Now that I am no longer with Verizon, can I still get all the updates if I flash back to stock via Odin, and if I want to factory reset the phone, can I skip the initial Verizon set up? I can't remember what its like, so it may be as plain as day, but I want to ask in advance before I flash to stock via Odin. Because I remember a few people having problems where they couldn't get past the initial screen once their phone was no longer activated.
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Quick question, What's the differences between Downloads and Download Crutch Lite?
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
I've always been able to get the otas over wifi with no sim - and to get by the activation bit if you go tobthe Emergency call part and put in *#83786633 and hit send, you can then hit the home button, skipping the rest of the activation stuff.

Download Crutch Lite is a small apk that lets you DL any file type via the browser, where without it (in my experience anyway) some file types would refuse to DL.
[Verizon Droid Charge] Chocoburger:
Thanks for answering my question! :laugh:
[Verizon Droid Charge] Aquila76:
Ok, so I am probably missing something glaringly obvious, but how do I remove / change the shortcuts from the homescreen launcher bar? I'm just using this as a dashcam, so I really just want a link to my DailyRoads app in there and nothing else. I'm using the WiFi-only mod from TweakTools as I have and S3 for regular smartphone duty. Thanks!
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Hmn... I'll have to play around again but I think that means we can remove or freeze the "downloads" app without messing up other apps.

Inotherwords,

If you use download Crutch Lite:

Freeze,

com.sec.android.providers.downloads 2.3.6 (com.sec.android.providers.downloads)

Downloads 2.3.6 (com.android.providers.downloads.ui)

& Keep untouched (or possibly freeze),

Download Manager 2.3.6 (com.android.providers.downloads)
[Verizon Droid Charge] ezas:
I don't think you can on the stock launcher. At least I didn't see how to do it. But I run a different launcher anyway.
[Verizon Droid Charge] dwitherell:
I don't have it with me to verify, but I believe if you go into the app drawer, then hit the menu button, there should be some sort of edit option you can select (there may even be a gear icon in the upper left that does the same thing). Once you hit that, all the items in the app drawer AND the launcher bar can be moved around however you like - with the exception of the Home/Apps one... that one can't move.

Let me know how that goes :)
[Verizon Droid Charge] Aquila76:
Thanks dwith! That worked, with one caveat. The App Drawer has to be in Grid View, otherwise it won't give the option to move / change icons.

So as a 'Cheat Sheet':

1. From the Home screen tap the App Drawer icon.

2. Hit the Menu button (Choose Grid View if in List View then hit Menu again)

3. Tap Edit

4. Drag & drop until it's Tweaked how you want!
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Nothing new (I forgot I checked these out earlier), you can freeze the Downloads app but uninstalling or freezing the manager will make the Play store all wacky when trying to download stuff. It's all in the debloat post. :p
[Verizon Droid Charge] stueycaster:
Well I finally flashed this. It gives me a reason to play with my Charge. I'll see how things work out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] KicknGuitar:
Since my realization that wifi is almost entirely separate of Airplane Mode, I have also found that WiFi needs to be toggled on after every boot. This may be ridiculously simple to some of you but I'm pretty new to all this. The issue can be solved by using a script we can enable wifi after the boot. You will need a script App which will let you run it upon startup. ROM Toolbox offers this (Plus a ton of other useful tools to tweak your device). Requires SU permission.

# svc wifi enable

Derp. No more, "why isn't my music playing... oh, I forgot to turn on the WiFi."
[Verizon Droid Charge] kakistocrat:
ODIN Issues

First, THANK YOU dwith! You've been with us for the long haul.

I had issues trying to ODIN back to stock, which I have never had before. The process would abort immediately and the phone would shut off. I found that if I put the battery back in AFTER going into download mode, it solved the problem. I guess my phone was losing power on initialization. I was unable to repartition, but I probably shouldn't even have been trying to do so, since I don't fully understand it.

Hopefully this update will get me through until the new Nexus comes out.
[Verizon Droid Charge] ezas:
Anyone know a good way to run down the battery? I didn't like any apps that I found in the play store. It does not need a way to be really aggressive, but maybe a little more aggressive than say just running Pandora or playing music.

I have two batteries and I need to figure out which one is the 'new' one.
[Verizon Droid Charge] jco23:
Turn on GPS, then play angry birds
[Verizon Droid Charge] Stauf99:
So..... Damn...... Happy.

Really glad I check up on charge stuff from time to time. I can't wait to toy around with my Charge again over the holidays.

Mucho Thanko dwitherell, this really does mean so much to so many (btw, the black and blue theme was always my favorite anyways :silly:)

Edit: jheide44 is also thee man :D