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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bantis:
GPE Roms and 2.99GB Internal Storage

I meant to post this last night but forgot. I know there were a few others having the same problem:

If you SafeStrap MF3 with a GPE ROM and look at Storage in Settings afterward, you'll be told your Internal Storage Size is 2.99GB. I was worried that this was a restriction from SafeStrap, and having only 3gb for apps etc (since GPE roms can't move to sd) makes it really hard to use as a daily driver.

Last night I dug into it a little more and noticed when I'd download something, the space wouldn't decrease by the actual amount of the file I downloaded. If I had 1.9gb free and downloaded a 700mb file, I could check in Storage and it'd say I now had 1.78gb free. I kept moving over larger files trying to fill it up (I have a 32gb S4) - in the end I moved well over 3gbs of files onto Internal Storage and still had around 1.6gb free; it seems as though the closer I came to the REAL space limits, the smaller the increments were made in my "Free Space" - with the phone nearly empty, a 700mb file could count as ~300mb; with the phone having over 16gb of data, a 700mb file then only made a 100 or so MB impact.

So, other than the fact that the Storage screen is wrong, there's no ACTUAL storage issues with the GPE ROMs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ctleng76:
The 3GB limit equates to the ROM slot data partition size you select when creating the slot for use with a ROM. So the 2.99GB you see is actually truly what you have available for apps. I am having the opposite problem. My phone says that I have over 400MB of storage left, but when I download an app that is around 20 to 30MB in size, I get an "insufficient space" message. I agree that the storage space reporting is inconsistent, but not always in the way you're experiencing. Plus, I am not convinced that it is a safestrap issue. There may also be other limitations at play. For example, does Android need a certain amount of space available in the data partition at all times to function? Does Android always report storage accurately?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] chris17922:
Could be your sim card dude. If you haven't modded anything.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
I switched to MDOB rom last nigjt. Stock without the Samsung bloat. I like it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Moostafa29:
Wow. Sorry to hear about all of that. Yeah, I've had the same issues with Hyperdrive. I have to decide if I want to use LTE or send text messages lol. After spending a couple hours trying various things out, I gave up. It's an awesome ROM, but with some experimentation, I've found that I can do similar things with other ROMs that I know work great (Graviton & Deadly Venom), and just add a lot of framework modules. In the last week I've probably tried 25-30 different ROMs, and I have to say my favorite so far is the GPE with a lot of framework tweaks. Go figure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bantis:
If you install other ROMs (non GPE edition), storage shows your full 32gb. I've tested the 3gb limit that GPE is showing and put FAR more than 3gbs of apps on, and it never actually "fills up".
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ctleng76:
The ROM slot can only be sized with a max of a 3GB data partition. It is largest of the 3 options when you create the ROM slot. I would be very interested to see how you got around that. Unless there is a way to do it that I don't know about, but as of the latest version of Safestrap, 3GB is the limit. You also can't store apps to the external SD card since the GPE ROMs don't support app2SD.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
What are you talking about?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Someone on the vzw thread did something wrong and didn't read so I guess he's bricked at the moment.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Then why did this guy post that here? If he's angry with how they handle someone that can't follow directions, he needs to take it there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Well I think he was talking in general. But I understand where your coming from and the people who gets mad at people who brick their devices. Yes they may have rooted and put a custom ROM on their phone before but nowadays if you don't read before you do something than its their fault for bricking their devices and should feel no sympathy because out of the thousands of people who do read you get this handful who wants everything in front of them and eat their cake and others too when something goes wrong.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nthknd:
First this "guy" posted in the correct forum and this "guy" is not angry, in fact this "guy" was comment on how on the first page we had people starting already with the whole "people aren't reading spiel" before we even began anything with an apk or the process. My point was a simple one. Lets enjoy the possible positive progress before we start with all the negativity. While I understand why people get upset with people who brick their phones by not doing the research but it gets old reading post from people who bricked their phones it also gets old hearing from the same 5 people repeating the same negativity. So again not interest in trading any disrespectful comments (which is also against forum rules) and just would like to celebrate in the new possibility. This should be a community of like minded people but I've notice that the s4 forum can be a rather rude and cold forum. And yes I belong to a few forums as I have many devices. And yes I've donated to devs and I try to help were I can. Sometimes its not helpful treating people like crap with harsh statements because your frustrated with people making the same mistakes and asking the same questions. Oh and yes it makes the forums messy with the same ole same every day but so does answering the same question in the same manner. Report them ignore them but some of the same people snap every day about the same thing. Lets reduce the negativity and the repost and the frustration.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mattdm:
Lol. "Spiel"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nthknd:
Oh thanks ill correct that.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mg2195:
This only allows touch wiz ROMs...with stock kernel as far as I have read...someone correct me if I'm wrong
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
At first, yes. Once kexec kernel is available, then AOSP is go for us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] HORiZUN:
Omg Omg Omg Omg it's almost here!!

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45332838&postcount=292
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rebel1699:
Yup. Once a stock kernel is able to be compiled with kexec, everything will be flashable. I hqve a nexus 7 and multiboot thanks to kexec kernels. The trick is, the booting kernel needs kexec, but the kernel it hands off to also needs kexec.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] haremmon:
More AT&T S4 (MF3) confirmed posts:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45323443&highlight=at&t#post45323443

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45328101&highlight=at&t#post45328101
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] HORiZUN:
We're almost out of the doghouse, boys. Its been a rough ride with mf3, but I see the finish line!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rebel1699:
I lucked out. I got my S4 about a week ago, so the wait was not too bad. Xposed help me through it, lol. As much as I am thankful for safetystrap, I am still hoping that the bootloader is eventually unlocked. At least then, maybe this partition problem that only gives us 8gb storage on a 16gb device can be solved. I look forward to that as much as custom roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nthknd:
Love reading the up beat and positive comments
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] corey6969:
It worked on my AT&T S4 with MF3!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] haremmon:
Will flashing custom roms via Safestrap trigger the custom flash count? Will we need to use triangleaway to remove it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rebel1699:
Yeah. I tried it a few minutes after release. Its a really encouraging sign.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
I am excite! This is so good for our community.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
my only question is... is this as secure as having a traditional recovery like Clockwork or TWRP? I have yet to use a device that uses this method and I am hesistate because I don't want to ruin this beast ;D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gmac1990:
Does this work with MIUI?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Febby:
At this moment, no. In the future safestrap might be able to use aosp/cm/aokp/etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gmac1990:
Very cool...Thanks for this tool!

Coming from HTC One its a bit of adjusting.

I tried graviton but found it to be somewhat laggy. What roms are people finding fast and enjoyable?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jtre13:
Bricked??

I sort of ignored the do not flash to the stock rom slot and flashed a Android 4.3 ROM to it and now it won't boot up at all, it just boots up to Safestrap and stock rom if i use the key combo. Help please i want my phone back :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] HORiZUN:
Use Odin to restore your system partition. That should do the trick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
if he is on mf3 there is nothing available to odin right? the only option would be to take it to a samsung experience kiosk at a bestbuy. there were specific instructions not to touch the stock rom at all for this reason

edit: also you can't use 4.3 roms with safestrap. they aren't compatible with the mf3 kernel you need to flash after the rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mrro82:
Correct on both. Pretty sure I READ somewhere that you aren't supposed to "sort of" do anything to the stock rom. This isn't directed towards you deadenz.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
I just found this, maybe this will help.. not sure if it would actually work but someone says it does

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2458967
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jknut:
Some user apps are now missing from Stock ROM?

I installed a new ROM to Slot 1 (3GB) and restored my user apps with TitaniumBackup.

A day later, I decided to boot back into the Stock ROM and several apps were missing. TitaniumBackup said that I could restore the missing apps.

Has this happened to anyone else? Does anyone know why this would happen? Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
No but I can't tell b/c what I did was backed up with Titanium Backup on stock, then uninstalled as many as possible to free up room (next time I should have just factory reset), then when I did flash custom ROM on slot-1, use TB to install apps. Had no problems, but obviously can't check my stock ROM like you did. Sorry.

Do you need those apps on the Stock ROM?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
I'm using MDOB http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2280556

Its essentially a stock rom with the Samsung bloat removed, and a few things added. So far everything works great and it is very responsive. The GPE ROMs are nice if you want as close to bone stock android as possible, but the USB connecting to PC functionality does not work on the GPE roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Mr. SirPerson:
I have that problem with touch wiz. I've had to reinstall the drivers every time I connect because I'm too lazy to take out my case to get to the SD card
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jknut:
I only "need" them because some of them were games that I was actively playing :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] aka120:
I'm not trying to say that you are wrong, but I am pointing out the fact that there is some sort of issue with the storage. Safe strap, Android, the combination of the two, or some other factor... your guess is as good as mine.

I haven't tried to fill up the partition or reach the 3 Gb size limit, but I also have not ran into any insufficient space errors either.

I'm on mf3 with ss running MDOB on slot 1 with 3 Gb selected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
I'm also on MDOB and 2gb partition but I dont use the other slots at all."stock slot"&"rom slot 1"only.i use Safestrap a little like you would use Cwm,one rom at a time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Same as above but use Deadly Venom 8.1.0.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cmptrmavn:
Can anyone confirm if using SafeStrap sets the device's KNOX flag to 0x1 or does it still remain at 0x0? I would assume that the flag would be set but an indepth search found no definitive information so far.

Reference thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] boss336:
Anyone have low menory with this

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Anyone getting low memory im on venom rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jball:
Everbody using Safestrap has low memory cause the partition you create plus the downloaded rom file you most likely still have in your internal sd.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Backed up my stock rom

I finally installed SS and have still yet to put a rom on it. That will be later tonight. A couple of questions though.

1. The first thing I did once going to SS recovery was backed up my stock rom. Is this even necessary? I'm unsure if the stock rom on SS is a basic rom straight out of the box. Seeing how the stock rom stays on the phone and I'm unfamiliar with SS, it's a habit to back up whatever rom I'm currently using.

2. If I want to go from one custom rom to another, can I back it up and will it occupy that particular rom slot? I'm thinking after I make backups of roms, I'll just move them to my external sd card and move them back to the internal if I'd like to restore those. If that's the case, would I move it back to the rom slot?

I'm coming from an HTC Inspire (as of May of this year), and used a custom recovery called 4ext Recovery, so didn't use TWRP that much.

Edit: I found out myself that I just need to go select my stock rom from SS and it's as I left it, so no need for making a backup. I wasn't sure about that, but in case others are wondering the same question I posted here...there ya go.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rabbivj:
one thing ive noticed is that with Bluetooth, AVRC doesnt seem to work at all. I tried both Graviton and GPE 1.3 and it doesnt work in either rom. Works fine in Stock however. Thoughts? yes I did flash the kernel mod after flashing a rom if that matters.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] edouble312:
Same here
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cmptrmavn:
As a follow up to my original question. I picked up at brand new Galaxy S4 (AT&T SGH-i337) with the MF3 firmware and after rooting, adding safestrap and installing graviton everything is a go and working great with the KNOX warranty apparently intact.

Reference: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45986087&postcount=176

MF3 apparently is based on the older bootloader that does not have KNOX checking integrated into it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
It's does not change the binary counter unless you install a ROM that uses Aroma installer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mg2195:
MDL USERS ONLY (MULTI ROMS)

Well, I had a theory...essentially all the stock ROM is used is for the kernel for the other ROMs correct? Well I thought that it may be possible to have a stock touchwiz ROM on the "stock" slot and than put CyanogenMod on the other, and every tine before switching ROMs flashing the appropriate kernel for the ROM in an actual recovery (remember on MDL...multi ROMs )

However...I put it to the test and it didn't work...I tried flashing several aosp kernels and all resulted in a black screen when trying to use CM...and I would have to switch back to the stock slot and reflash the stock kernel...any ideas? I would love to have both aosp and cm multi boot options, but it seems that its relying on more than just the kernel...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Properly removing roms from their slots

Forgive me if this was stated before and I missed it. I searched and didn't see a definite answer. If I'd like to remove a rom, is the best way to go to the folder on the card or phone and just basically delete it? I thought I saw where someone removed one and it didn't clear up all space. Basically, what's the best way to remove one rom if I'm trying to save sd card space?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xerythul:
By AVRC do you mean bluetooth command of phone functions? Easy example: track skipping, pause/stop etc. If so I have the same problem with my moto s11 flex. Any idea why?

sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 running Deadly Venom v8.1.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
I have just been going into safestrap recovery and choosing what slot you want to delete, then theres an option to delete. You have to be active on one of the other rom slots tho, the delete option will be greyed out for the active slot. Be VERY careful that you dont choose the Stock ROM slot........Unless you want to pay your local Best Buy a visit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
I've just been deleting the rom slot and recreating it to install a new rom, havent notice not getting back any space.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bennyboy78:
So can we still flash things through the safestrap like add ons from goldeneye? Or is it only for flashing rooms? Just making sure since I never used SS before
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mrro82:
I do the same. That way I know nothing gets left over from previous roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
Yes, you can flash zip files other than roms. As a matter of fact, you can flash those addons WITH the rom....there is an option to "add more zips" and then flash them all together......very handy (thx for that Hashcode)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bennyboy78:
Very much appreciated
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cyrusalmighty:
With safestrap, would I be able to recover from a mod like this? 8 just did this to my Sprint G S4 but I dont know if I may cause a bootloop on my Sgh-I337? Has anyone here tried this? http://www.galaxys4forums.net/forum...d-add-wifi-toggle-your-verizon-galaxy-s4.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] edouble312:
I've noticed it my car, when playing music over bluetooth. stock ROM lets me skip/pause/play etc from my car stereo touchscreen... each ROM flashed on SS seems to remove that functionality.

I have no idea why
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mg2195:
Probably something was removed...most of these roms are heavily debloated
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] 12th Planet:
hi, just came back to android from ios, im a bit rusty on android stuff. can anyone point me to "Google Play Edition 4.2.2" rom OP listed? thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] itsmejson:
While the stock rom slot is active is it safe to use the safestrap wipe function for data, cache and dalvik in order to reset the stock rom slot back to the out of the box state? also if it is will I have to reinstall supersu onto stock rom slot as well as rom slot 1,2 or 3?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Tremulant1:
Just to be on the safe side....I wouldn't do anything to the "Stock Rom" via SS. If you need to factory reset, do it while booted into the ROM itself under settings. This is just my opinion.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
Here is the one I used

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2341376

if need to be able to connect the phone to your PC via ISB cable, the GPE roms do not work in that sense. Everything else worked great for me, just no USB connection to PC.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] itsmejson:
Thx. Now is it safde to do a factory reset through the ROM itself under settings? Will that mess anything up since the safestrap app will be erased by doing the reset?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gj23:
I haven't tried that mod (I'm on AT&T MF3) but there shouldn't be any reason why you couldn't recover if there is a problem. The Safestrap splash screen always appears before you start the bootloop and you can enter recovery. If I were you, I would install a different rom to one of the other rom slots and try it there. I wouldnt try it on the stock rom slot until you know what the results might be, even then I would be VERY careful messing with the Stock Rom

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Just a bit of info for those that have flashed Roms that caused a loss of root, I flashed FoxHound and no longer had root, but was able to regain root access by flashing UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip. Im not sure if this will work for other roms , but it did work on FoxHound: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23060877489997379
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sykoj82:
Yes same here..also flashing that zip has been helping me with other roms that lose root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bladerunner1825us:
If i remember correctly that profile is part of the kernel so it may be missing from the flashable kernel module restoring wifi, gps etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cyrusalmighty:
Sorry if I am asking a question already answered but is there any point in creating a backup of stock rom since we are not supposed to change our stock rom anyways? I mean we do not actually restore the backup in case of bootloops. What is the point of the backup/restore option here? Is it only for slot 1 2 3 and 4? Also...can I use slot 1 for my 1st rom(not the stock system rom) or should I use slot 2? I only will try 1 other rom due to the size of the internal memory we have. Last question....can we boot to recovery on bootup or only from the safestrap.apk itself? (Im thinking its only "from the app" otherwise we would have full recovery like a full unlocked bootloader.)(Probably answered my own question :eek:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] leezardmik:
I havent made a backup of my stock rom

you can use slot 1 for your 1st rom

you can boot into recovery, when the phone bots up (after safestrap is set up) it will give you the option to boot into recovery or to continue (which is to boot into whatever rom is active)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] deadenz:
it boots into recovery if you choose that option on startup, not from the app

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I guess I should have refreshed the page before posting that lol sorry