yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
True, yet I was referring to how they keep certain devices on older os's, and not the current version. When I had the DROID Charge, it never even saw ICS but other, older phones did.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sevinex:
Talk is pretty cheap, I do not plan on holding my breath for Android Kit Kat. Kudos to Google for their de-fragmentation goals, however it will ultimately boil down to how quickly Verizon wants us to upgrade to the "next big thing". Back to Google, they aren't even supporting the Galaxy Nexus, a NEXUS flagship at the time, because it has reached the "end of its 18 month product cycle". Granted the Galaxy SIII is still within its 18 month product cycle (by two months according to my count), by the time we get a "working" Android 4.3 Touchwiz ROM (I say working because I foresee Verizon somehow messing up 4.3's initial release), we too may be at the end of our product cycle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mirrin:
If i remember right it was said it would run on as little as 1ghz dual core and 512 meg of ram there is 2 things though that will prevent it from getting pushed to older equipment. Vendor support for eol products is nearly non existent and google only supports phones released in the last 18 months anything older than that is going to be up to the manufacture to compile a rom for it. Then it is up to the vendor to sign off and push the ota. Now the question is why would you devote resources to a device that you don't make anymore just to update it and give users a reason to not buy your new device... The answer is you would not do this you would drop support of the older device and make the users buy the new device of the week now if only they would pull their heads out the backside and price them lower. Not one person likes dropping 700 for the new phone of the week.

Honestly i think kit kat will be the last update the s3 officially receives from samsung/verizon and i dont expect that to come anytime soon im thinking around late q1 possibly q2 of 2014 before we see anything...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
But if they really want to put android in the hands of "the next billion users" then making everyone buy a new, subsidized phone will kill that pretty quickly. They are competing with apple. They're competing globally, where many people can't afford new flagships. Oh well, I mean only time will tell.

Regardless of what does or doesn't happen, things will start improving for android users. Better than things have been and better than they are now. My kid has an iphone 4s, that's like three iphones old now and she's on ios7. Better than a lot of droid users are doing in terms of having the latest greatest os.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dogswind:
You make some great points. I almost traded my S3 for an iPhone 5 the other day, because I don't think our device will be supported past 4.3. I can't stand Apple and their definition of "innovation", but they do make an effort to have everyone on the same version when it comes to iOS.

Hopefully Samsung puts as much effort into our phone, but I really doubt it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] droider137:
Same version yes, but not all of the same features.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Pretty easy to maintain the same software versions when you have an iron fist on hardware advancement and refuse to allow anyone to innovate.

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Unlikely and there is no incentive for Verizon to do 4.4 on the S3 . Most consumers will have long since updated to a newer phone since this phone is now over 2 years old. Why would they spend money on the lonely few still clinging to their S3?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jacquestrapp:
The GS3 was released in June 2012, it's got a ways to go yet before it's 2 years old.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
Any idea who is already working on a 4.4 rom? I know cm is taking its time with finishing 4.3 before they start 4.4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
Do you think we will see a 4.4 rom
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] NedDasty:
Absolutely. CM11 is being pushed to Github as we speak: https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/gFjZS7NcTNr
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
you can get a taste of it by flashing CM 10.2 and using the kitkat ( googlehome.apk) launcher in the apps section there is a few kit kat apk's that work on our phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] wpcprez:
Well, I think apple let's everyone update to the latest update so the phones can get slower and slower till they realize they need to upgrade. Have you played on an iPhone 3 with the Latest IOS that came out for it? It was almost unusable. When Google releases a new OS it seems to get faster not slower. Or is that just me?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
WAHOO
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
They got it running on the i9300,, I hope they get it running on ours soon!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Sevinex:
The developers behind Paranoid Android have already released a couple source-built Android 4.4 roms for some of the Nexus line. Hopefully Notta, or any other willing developer will bring support to the Galaxy S3.

Paranoid Android Google+ Page
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
LoL

Android 4.1 was released by Goggle 9 July 2012. , Verizon released 4.1 for the S3 ONE YEAR LATER, July 2013.

Android 4.4 was released by Google 31 -Oct. 2013.

By any reasonable calculation, that would put Verizon , if they choose to do a release about October, 2014. Well past what Verizon will tag as the end of life for the S3 . Verizon won't spend the money. So I believe the chances of an official 4.4 ROM are virtually zippo.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mirrin:
Hard to say verizon has sold a boat load of s3 it is possible the determining factor is how much of a change going from 4.3.1 to 4.4 really will be i still think we will see 4.4 probably round july as the final update but that will depend on if verizon sticks to 11/22 for the 4.3 release sprint missed the 6th as its release so the leaked image is in doubt.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
CM11 is booting for dvzw!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
where'd you hear this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
unoffical cm10.2 thread
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
Is this it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
I am not seeing anything about cm11 booting on that thread :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47230539&postcount=3687
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kidhudi:
I can't wait. what are you guys more excited for CM11, 4.3Touchwiz or Ubuntu touch?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
Cm11. They just merged d2 sources.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2518998
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Not really excited about 4.3 or 4.4 . Nothing earth shaking in either and most TW Custom ROMs already have better features than 4.3

CM is too vanilla.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
It's so tempting to flash, but it's for the at&t version. No one likes the Verizon version :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] scarygood536:
Um it wouldn't be hard to port...

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The RIL was the only thing holding that phone back. We had amazing devs on that phone that did some awesome things but couldn't crack it. We even had a semi working build of ics
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
In this case, the S3 has a large consumer base (the DROID Charge was quite small ) so I don;t think Samsung would hesitate, but Verizon is always a hold up. They don't make money updating software on older phones. By the time Verizon could get out a release , probably 3rd quarter 2014, very few current Verizon customers (comparatively) will still have S3s, so I am doubting that Verizon will do it. Without an official release to base off of, some features in 4.4 may never work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
Yep, im pretty sure the largest 4G LTE network would go first with a rom but nope.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] indyssee:
Steve Kondik (THE dude behind CM) is on AT&T and, at least at one time, had a GS3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2520179
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
THANK YOU SO MUCH! When will be the estimated time for a wifi fix?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
When someone posts a logcat
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
Now i feel like i should step up and be the brave soul here, but meh if i do switch to cwm i have to do a new backup, and have potential risk of meid wipe after flashing and maybe others risks. I really do want to help contribute, but there could be potential risks, right? Please reassure me lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
how to i record a logcat?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1726238

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Before doing it go into terminal and type

su

(Accept permissions)

Reboot nvbackup

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Just use a cwm backup then restore. Boot android then use flashify or goo to flash twrp and yes file explorer to remove cwm folder.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
I would like to test this out and collect logcats however CWM isn't letting me install and it appear Goomanager does not have TWRP install option

Edit: Going to Odin back to stock and use Casual root to install TWRP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cammykool:
Latest cwm from ROM manager worked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
I got kit Kat running on my gs3, but things are broken on it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Looks like invisiblek has a build posted on his website, downloading now...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Link?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
http://www.invisiblek.org/sch-i535/roms/cm11.0/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I couldn't get it to install, did a factory wipe and upon install of the rom it failed...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
Your using cwm recovery? Also, did you wipe system?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ECrispy:
Too risky to try. I've lost my MEID even after backing up the EFS using nvbackup which the Samsung bootloader is supposed to use to restore automatically.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] joedajoester:
That really sucks. How exactly did you lose it? Did you fix it, and how?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
Anyone have a link gor gapps for invisibleks build? Im wanting to dive in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
This is an unofficial build thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2520179
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
Thank you
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
Where is the best place to get builds? It sounds like several people are huilfing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
I use I posted a couple days ago. The build from invisible still had a few things broken.

I'm running this build from that thread, it's the 11-10 build:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47332936&postcount=149

The latest build had SD issues again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] talegas:
How's your battery life on it been? I've been running it since yesterday and for some reason Google Keyboard and Media are taking up almost as much as my screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] :
Couldn't really tell you for sure, I've had it plugged in almost all the time because I've been trying to get ART to work, but I kept flashing the wrong 11-10 build. Several people are stating that their battery life has been pretty good.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] talegas:
There's an update now with working ext. sd, emojis, and front/rear cameras!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] thewalkingdude:
Battery life is terrible. I came from carbon with lean kernel. A good 11/12 build will be up in an hour or so.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] AndroidCrusader:
Unofficial 4.4 working version available

I am posting here because I cannot post to the thread where the version is posted.

I have loaded the unofficial version with full gapps, and it is working great! Netflix is not viewable, but most other things are working.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ajtauro:
The unofficial CM11 thread from cammykool has a build from sspencer10, and that works like magic. I get at least the same battery life as CM10.2, if not better, and ART honestly is quite snappy. A few bugs, like sometimes spotty SD card access, but it's working as a daily driver for me. I haven't gotten any FC's, and the only app that's crashing is Instagram when I'm shooting video, but that happened on CM10.2 as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ECrispy:
Is there any difference between KitKat without ART and 4.3? Most of the changes are very minor.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dogswind:
Even without ART, it just feels smoother for me. Especially when scrolling through long websites or the Play Store for instance. Granted, I haven't restored all of my apps yet. Just the essential ones to test drive KitKat.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ECrispy:
Thanks. I will try 4.4 once its a little more stable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stolo:
boredr ference

The nov 14 unofficial CM11 runs pretty well. ART seems smoother than dalvik
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
I was on sspencer 's build (always the latest) since it came out, and while it is crazy how well most things work so quickly, I went back to TW. It's not quite there yet for a DD for people in low signal/data hand off areas. The camera is a bit wonky as well as far as quality goes. SD card does work, you have to browse to it a bit differently. Some apps don't work well with ART either. Im merely just describing my experience, and how I badly wanted to stay on it, I needed a bit more stability. Just my thoughts so far. It is tough being a few android upgrades behind...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bigee1212:
Give some of the aosp 4.3 roms a try. slimbean stable build 2 has been pretty rock solid and i dont feel too behind. waiting on officials and stables for 4.4, i dont mind waiting, not a crazy amount of new stuff. That's if you're like me and can't stand touchwiz for more than a few days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Yeah, I don't necessarily like TW, but the signal/data issue is a problem for me on aosp. No matter what people say, TW simply seems to handle really low signal areas better. Every aosp rom I've tried has been that way. Trust me I'd ditch TW if that (and the lower quality camera) were fixed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Blazefire1978:
I will defiantly give it a run if / when it becomes more stable and dev's have more roms out there for it. I'm just knowledgeable enough to be dangerous to my phone at this point.... least thats what my wife would say with how often I flash my phone for one reason or another....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Mixinitup4Christ:
I was running one of the late October CM10.2 builds that Mastamoon put together with good results in low signal areas. I travel out into the middle of nowhere for work and at the end I wasn't having too much (if at all) of a problem.

My sig reminds me it was the 10/29 build. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Maybe I'll give it a try, thank you. I've tried so many 4.2.x to 4.3.x roms and they all seem to be worse for that. Even tried the latest 4.4 nightlies... Same thing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dvaderx:
I have the same experience. I love carbon rom, it runs great. but the signal/data issue was a problem for me when i was out in the country on vacation. lucky i had clean rom 3.3 on my sd card. i loaded it and the signal/data issues improved vastly. I have not yet gone back to carbon since i got home. but i'm thinking about it now that i'm in a better signal area.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Comp625:
I completely agree. I wrote this in another thread but I'll echo it here. Even though there is a strong dev community, I am surprised that no one has been able to figure out how or why TW has better signal strength/data than AOSP, and why the cameras are better. After all, TW is built upon Android and they all use the same radios. :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jacquestrapp:
The reason TW has better signal is that the Radio Interface Layer (RIL) in TW ROMs is the one that's meant for use with the phone, created by Samsung. Samsung has never shared that software with the community. The RIL used in AOSP ROMs for this phone is reverse-engineered and is not quite as good as the Samsung one. In addition to the weaker signal, it also doesn't allow some of the phone's built-in functions to work, like MHL output. So if you want full hardware functionality out of your S3, you have to use a TW ROM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BlueEyedBehemoth:
Yeah, I'm just starting to realize that. My signal strength has dropped since I switched to cm 11 (KitKang) which is sad.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
What about the blurry camera in ROMS and Super clear HD in TW

or the non looking display output in ROMs and the super HD display in TW?

those have some stuff too right locked by samsung? correct me if i'm wrong
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mudsam:
The camera on TW is closed source.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] moparfreak426:
But tw is so bloated and who doesnt love the smooth, simple,. And better looking aosp?

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] markdapimp:
TW looks beautiful compared to stock android

however kitkat looks better than TW but Samsung is making a newer TW soon for GS5

just my thoughts i kinda like the nature inspired theme.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] moparfreak426:
I don't like tw, but everyone has their preferences and i respect your choice

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] PaulPizz:
Any word on an update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
4.4.1!

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-1-now-being-tested-by-google-on-nexus-4-5-and-7/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] moparfreak426:
4.4.1 is from word exactly like 4.4 but completely bugless
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Cool
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] iclickjohn:
When I went back, my "google services" failed. None of my paid apps showed up or would load amongst other wacky problems, lost root, major problems, I had to go back to 11 just to use my phone. Did you do anything in particular to go back to 100%? Mind you, I did a nandroid backup and I was using CWM to restore my 10.2 build. When I restored, it was not like a restore at all. I had to do all of the set-ups and home screen and yet most of my apps where there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Are u using TWRP? If so, switch to CWM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
Yeah, like TokedUp said, could be a recovery issue. Did you wipe everything before you restored? System, data, caches, I mean like format all them? I usually do my internal SD card, too, and wipe about 5x. I never have issues switching between CM and TW.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobloblaw1:
No software beyond "hello world" is completely bugless.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
I can't tell u how many times I have to tell ppl not to use TWRP. Then some TWRP fanboy will get his panties in a bunch and get all pissed off cuz his favorite recovery is the reason they're having problems. I actually had ppl PM to tell me to stop bashing TWRP. I'm not bashing it, it just doesn't work with 4.4 completely. If u want 4.4 just use CWM and then flash back to TWRP. I have never used TWRP but it must be the best thing since Kate Upton cuz ppl defend it like its their first born.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Rodeopants:
Anyone know of a 4.4 build that has Tap-to-pay functioning for Google Wallet? I know in dmeadows build the option shows up, but so far no one has got it to actually work. Someone thought it could be a problem on Google's end, and that they're working on it, but wanted to see if anyone has had better luck.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
The newest twrp works just fine on cm11. Most issues are "user" error
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] kude87:
I've tried both, and CWM may be dated, but it just works for me. Both worked fine, but CWM is usually better for aosp stuff. TWRP can be used for TW imo. I'm faster going through the menus in CWM if that means anything.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] moparfreak426:
Wrong. It should be "Hello world."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
yeah the "user error" is using TWRP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
I just installed cm 11 and love it so far! I am not sure what the difference between the two launchers are. It says launcher and launcher3. Anyone know?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Launcher 3 is a modded version of GEL. It has extra feature under settings.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dvaderx:
x2 I've used the newest TWRP for the last 2 weeks on 4.4 nightlies on 2 different phones.

I've did wipes, installs, nandroids and restores.

no problems at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
4.4.2 is out!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
For nexus?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Yup!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] donnyp1:
Really? Already
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
I need a nexus 5 in my life!

sent from my I535 on CM11 KitKat
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] stu1811:
How soon until we see 4.4.3? :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
Soo... I can see this thread has grown silent. I wonder why? Lmao!

Sent from my Last Ever Samsung Device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Probably cuz 4.4.x is so stable no one has anything to complain about. The OTA 4.3 threads are hilarious. Why would anyone want a locked down 4.3 bloatwiz when we have 4.4 which is soooo much better. Hey to each his own I guess.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] aarontsuru:
How are the radios & camera on the 4.4 Roms?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0331:
Yes, I was referring to the massive amounts of problems with the 4.3 OTA.

4.4 is the most stable aosp I've seen on this phone. I ran cm 11 for a bit and had no complaints.

Sent from my Last Ever Samsung Device.

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I took the OTA because I'm switching to T-Mobile but keeping my phone.

I'm one of the few who did not brick!

Sent from my Last Ever Samsung Device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ericsdeadinside:
Has anyone tried the aokp kitkat nightly?

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/aokp-kitkat-4-4-2-nightlies-now-available-for-10-devices/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Is there a vzw version? I think it's only for Intl version
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Nah its definitely on our S3, Christmas edition is up here.
[Off-topic] Deleted member 2842059:
I'm using a Dell Studio 1535 with Elementary OS and a spotty WiFi connection, no Ethernet available. What I really, really want is a phenomenal USB TV tuner so I can watch football. Does anyone recommend one that plays nice with Linux?

You have my ETERNAL THANKS AND GRATITUDE for any help.
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
Maybe this'll help: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
[Off-topic] Deleted member 2842059:
Been looking through it for the last couple days along with Amazon. Nothing promising :(
[Off-topic] ShadowCodeGaming:
Maybe this: http://www.pctvsystems.com/Products...StickT2/tabid/248/language/en-GB/Default.aspx
[Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet] sagirfahmid3:
Hi. I was wondering if I could get the tablet UI on my Nook Tablet with CM10.1 stable. Is there a patch? or do I have to install another ROM.

Here's what I mean by that (notice how there is only ONE bar instead of TWO):