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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Trying to get 4.3 OTA

Ok, I feel like I'm going to regret this because this has been discussed before in detail but I can't find where that is now. I'm on MF3 and safestrapped. I know you can install MK2 by sideloading it which I want to avoid if possible because I don't trust myself to not brick my device. I've went to my stock rom and actually downloading the OTA successfully, but when it went to install it rebooted and got about 25% installing before failing. Is this because I'm still safestrapped? Are there any successes getting OTA in my conditions? If this is not the correct thread, could you direct me to that thread? I apologize in advance because this HAS been discussed in so much detail. I just can't find any relevant info for OTA installation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sandman7793:
Just Odin back to mf3 which will uninstall and delete everything. Then take ota, or install update.zip mk2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Like you said, I think this has been stated before, but since I've kept my MF3 with SS 3.65, I haven't memorized every detail. I believe you are right - b/c SS. So, backup everything, then factory reset to stock - I think SS will be gone, but by chance if its not, uninstall it. Then, take the OTA MK2 update!

Remember you can't go back to MF3 once you go to MK2 as people have said. So make sure you want to do this. Several posts people describe no real big advantage to upgrading to 4.3 MK2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Thanks. I'll try uninstalling SS. I held out for so long because there wasn't a good recovery, but now that SS is in Beta for 4.3 and there are confirmed reports of custom roms running on it, I'm going to give it a try. I really don't expect to gain anything out of upgrading besides the opportunity to use the latest roms out there. Thanks for the help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jt1998:
Yw. Hope it helps!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] kalmoa:
But regardless of what ROM we install, should we still flash the MF3 KERNEL MODULE after the ROM is flashed? This fixes WiFi, GPS, etc.... OR should we only flash the MF3 KERNEL MODULE if we are flashing a ROM that uses a stock-based-kernel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
MF3 Kernel Modules are to be flashed after the ROM. Also, i believe haremmon misinterpreted that tweet, as from using Safestrap on Bionic, it uses the kernel from the stock ROM on all ROM's. So if you have an MDL phone with another recovery, whatever kernel you flash there is used everywhere, and in the case of MF3, the MF3 kernel is used everywhere, and the modules are added so the ROM's can load it correctly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rebel1699:
Correct. All roms have to use the same rom as the internal rom does. So for us, all roms installed into slots have to use the mf3 stock kernel with no modification.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] kalmoa:
So just for clarification, even if I flash a ROM that uses a custom kernel, it will still work, as long as I also flash the MF3 Kernel Modules afterwards? But I assume flashing a ROM that uses the STOCK kernel is better?

Another question, that I think is probably stupid. Would Cyanogenmod work with SafeStrap on my [MF3] GalaxyS4?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] h11wiscan:
so technically SHOstock RoM for i337 should work since its based off AT&T firmware UCUAMF3 Android 4.2.2 right?

Nvmnd: that one wont work because its not based off of the stock mf3 kernel.

Gravitron Rom should work though right? it uses Aroma and does anyone know if that runs decently in bootstrap? ive had issues using aroma awhile back with certain recoveries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
Should, and does. And for the record, most ROMs with custom kernels as a seperate install work on stock, but there are exceptions such as 4.3 ROMs and such. Just make sure to flash MF3 modules.

I'm not sure, but I think so. Doesn't hurt to try anyways, since I think the modules are supposed to help with hooking into the MF3 Kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nativesmiley:
infamous ROMs works perfectly. but cant seem to install ASOP 4.3 ROM. just hangs at black screen after Safestrap splashscreen. i flashed the ROM, then flashed Gapps and MF3 kernel and still nothing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jan g:
HI

HI h11wiscan

Gravitron Rom should work though right? it uses Aroma and does anyone know if that runs decently in bootstrap? ive had issues using aroma awhile back with certain recoveries.

i am using graviton runs perfectly aroma run decent on safestrap-att using in slot 1

using the module mf3 zip after flash roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] lthary:
Can I have the safestrap and custom recovery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sykoj82:
Yep that rom definitely works... I'm currently on darthstalker rom...next I'm gonna test xtremeperia rom... I'll report back if it works
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ~wolverine~:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2448925
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
I can boot to it with TWRP. Haven't tried any custom ROMs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Normally I'd read about the stuff but I've been really busy the past week and haven't had any chance to read through all the att and Verizon posts. I read that someone got a ROM working with safestrap? Do you have to be rooted to use safestrap?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] h11wiscan:
Just tested out Gravitron myself and its working great! Runs excellent, way better battery life than the stock AT&T Rom. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ~wolverine~:
Look 2 posts up. ^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Yes. Root is required
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Sorry bro taking the time to read up on it now.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mrro82:
Does goldeneye work? Didn't see a definitive answer.

Sent from the other side of the Milky Way with my S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mg2195:
That's cause that is aosp, only gpe ROMs you can run are the 4.2 builds cause those have some touchwiz still and can still run off the stock touchwiz kernel

Aosp based ROMs and GPE 4.3 ROMs will NOT work for users already on mf3...

For users who have MDL firmware, you can flash an aosp based ROM as your main but can than only fill the ROM slots with other aosp ROMs...

in other words, for MDL users its either only AOSP or only Touchwiz

For MF3 users its only touchwiz based ROMs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] kevinco1:
Is there an "official" MK2 module? I've seen a few download links that had the ZIP file with different file names and sizes. Hash had the MF3 module available for download right after 4.2 came out, but there was a delay until the link was added at the beginning of this thread for 4.3

Might be the answer to the some users problems with SafeStrap/flashing if they are using a bad module file...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
The one in the OP added on the 16th is the official. It really shouldn't make a difference though. The only problem with bad modules is that WiFi might not work, but ROM's would still boot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
For those on MK2

Here is a link to an updated ROM list that have been confirmed to work on MK2 via SS version 3.71. There is also info on how to properly change your apn because some (or most) of these are Verizon roms.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

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I've tried 3 times to uninstall SS from the app in my app drawer. It shows that it's still installed after it runs the uninstall option. Any suggestions on the best way to uninstall SS? I'm afraid of having to go to the stock rom and using the Factory data reset, but if I can't get SS to uninstall then this might be the only way to get MK2. I'm not against forcing the download from SS and using the ADB feature there as I've researched a little about sideloading and feel a little more comfortable doing that now. I'll use that or the factory data reset as a last resort though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
I think removing SS is a 2 step operation. The first is to open the App and click uninstall which removes the programs that get invoked during the boot. The next is to remove the App itself which will remove the APK.

I think it's the first step that addresses the upgrade issue for most people. For me, I had done other things in trying to get rooted that required me to use ODIN.

ODIN is a bit intimidating, but was easy to do when all was said and done.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
If it still says installed in the app, make sure you have the latest version of the Safestrap APK installed (3.65 for MF3, 3.71 for MK2). If you use the latest version it should work just fine, it will say Not Installed on the status, and then you just remove the app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gothicasshole:
Dude you screwed yourself you should of left it on unmounted the sd card put it on the charger then ran the rom on the sd card and remounted it what you did was you have no os usually not that big of a deal if you dont have a locked boot loader because you could adb push it once you boot into recovery...

Now for ****s and giggles turn it off hold vol down while your press the power button. Hopefully it still boots into download mode see if you can flash that stock rom back (your gona need it) or maybe the custom rom wich ever seems to work. If that dont work power off hold vol up power button go to your h boot screen find recovery and hope it boots into safestrap manual mode find push adb run the commands and bingo you pushed a rom onto the device and can now boot
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] andrew.simon:
Alright I'm super confused here.

Just came from an HTC One X. I succesfully rooted my fresh out of the box AT&T S4 with MF3. From my understanding I can use Safestrap to install custom roms. Correct? Which kind of roms though? Can I flash any roms after I flash loki-doki.zip?

Sorry I couldn't find a firm answer anywhere and I'd rather ask before I brick my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] GrapeBandit:
if you are rooted mf3, install SS3.65. you can install custom roms. ONLY 4.2 TouchWiz based. ONLY 4.2 TW BASED ROMS!

ohh, dont forget the mf3 module after the rom install
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] andrew.simon:
Thank you kind sir.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
I had posted back in November, I wanted to backup the stock rom slot to my otg storage but twrp is not seeing it. Is this a problem on my end or a quirk of SS twrp?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mswal2846:
Here's the link to Safestrap 3.65 for us: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2448942
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
SS not booting up custom roms

I bit the bullet and upgraded to 4.3 through Odin. I have SS 3.71 installed and it will execute all fine until I flash a rom. It will go to reboot and basically go to a black screen. I press the home button and it wakes up and starts to reboot. I'll get the SS option to go to recovery or continue rebooting. When I continue it'll reboot and bring me back to the same recovery continue option. Any suggestions on how I can boot custom roms? Do I have a bad download of SS?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Mistahyayo:
It might be the rom, what roms have you tried?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
I've tried Hyderdrive and SHOstock, both 4.3 versions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] IIXcronusXII:
Hey guys fairly new to android still and have done some searching but havent found anything yet. Was hoping to get some help

Im on MF3 using SafeStrap and decided to erase my stock rom (may have been bad decision) and installed a custom rom and wanted to know if there is anyway to get it back to stock or close to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
There are some roms where you can overwrite your stock slot. I haven't done that yet. If you want stock back I'm pretty sure someone has posted up a stock rom you can put back on the stock slot. Or you can just do a factory reset and start over. Not a bad idea if something is messed up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Kaze105:
Your fine. You can just use odin to flash the stock MF3 file here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2502003

Check post 30 on which files go where in odin.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] IIXcronusXII:
That is what I was looking into but wasnt sure if that was the best way to do it. I have Graviton installed in the stock rom slot and works well. Is there instructions of a factory reset somewhere if you know right off your head.. if not Ill poke around.

Nothing is messed up but was thinking about switching to Nexus 5 and wanted to sell the phone in a not so customized condition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gothicasshole:
If you made a nandroid which you should always do!!! All you need to do is wipe all accept the sd card and simply restore it and reboot (make sure you have atleast 50% battery) then you can factory reset remove safe strap and fallow the unroot procedure and it should be all good
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
There are files out there for mf3 and mk2 so you can Odin back to stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
If you're looking for the reset button, go to Settings\Accounts and scroll to the bottom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Has anyone had this problem? I have deleted the rom slot and recreated it thinking that was the problem. No dice.

Edit: I fixed it. I uninstalled SS from the app and reinstalled it. I then did what I did before and recreated the rom slot and reinstalled SHOstock and it's booting up for the first time now. Not sure if reinstalling SS or the rom slot did the trick this time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
Does anyone know of a 4.3 Google Edition rom that works with Safestrap?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
4.3 GE will never work with Safestrap, the kernel changed from 4.2.2 to 4.3 and it's no longer just the stock TW kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] soccerkidguy:
Gs4 at&t sgh-i337 mf3 rom

What custom rom should I use? I'd like one that closest matches cm11, but anything that works will do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
There is a list in the OP of this thread. If you ever get on MK2, here's the current rom list.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2616221
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gothicasshole:
Did you flash the kernel moduels? ??

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Yea the debs should have a ss addition. ....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
I did. I think the modules would just be for connecting to Wifi, unless the MK2 modules are different.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gothicasshole:
Hmm in that case maybe the partition was corrupted and once you rewrote the file it fixed it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] steviewunderr:
I did get the SS 3.71 from the official download link. I don't know what/how to do the MK2 moduals, nor do I know what they do. I have Chrome as my stock browser, and I'm not sure what you mean by download it via a file explorer. The .apk is in my default downloads folder, but I am using ES file explorer instead of the ****ty My Files app. The 5GB requirement is no problem, I have all my stuff on an ext. SD card.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
I would do more reading before doing anything.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] steviewunderr:
I know, I still haven't done anything more. Again, my problem is that I don't understand how to install SS. I tried downloading the .apk multiple times, opening it with a third party file explorer, and have installation from unknown sources allowed. Someone suggested that I needed MK2 kernels, what does that mean?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gadget069:
I guess the first question is are you rooted? What version are you currently on? MK2 or MF3? If on MK2 use v3.71 if on MF3 use v3.65. Download the .apk, browse to where you downloaded the file, tap it to install, if it asks you what to use to install it, use package installer. When you run safe strap for the first time have it install recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] pmoutarlier:
cannot load the MF3 modules

I am jumping on this thread here because I have been trying to go through the whole process multiple times only to be blocked when trying to load the MF3 kernel modules.

- I have a AT&T MF3 S4

- installed SS 3.65

- installed a couple ROMS, ge4.2.2clean-20130907, INTIKA.LOCKY.MF3.MH8.ST.DEODEX, I9505_-_Google_Edition_Final-v1_by_Jamal2367

- all boot, even if only after a couple minutes

- installed the MF3 modules. I even checked that they are identical from the modules used in the Stock ROM.

- None of the modules can load within the custom ROMS. To verify, I tried to insmod manually, I get this error :

insmod: init_module 'dhd.ko' failed (Exec format error)

Looking at the messages :

4>[ 3120.892608] TIMA: lkmauth--launch the tzapp to check kernel module; module len is 620372

<3>[ 3120.898956] QSEECOM: __qseecom_get_fw_size: error with request_firmware

<3>[ 3120.899200] TIMA: lkmauth--cannot get tzapp handle from kernel.

This happens with any modules, not only the dhd wifi driver. I verified that I could rmmod/insmod everything fine when running the stock ROM.

I researched this as much as I could. There are comments about non-signed modules, but here, the modules are the exact ones from Samsung stock image.

Since it seems that many people are successful with this, is there something that I am missing ?

Thanks,

Philippe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
This is the only place you should get the MF3 module: http://xdaforums.com/devdb/project/?id=680#downloads

Directly after flashing the rom specific for MF3, flash the module. It should start up after a couple of minutes. The only thing that I know that the modules do is give you access to your Wifi. I don't think they would block you from anything else. I would download from the link I provided and make sure you're flashing the right modules though. Maybe that's the problem you're having.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] pmoutarlier:
I got the modules from the right place. I also verified that they are exactly the same that the one loaded on the stock ROM, hich is logical.

The issue is that the Stock ROM can load them, but not the custom one. This is weird because the kernels are the same.

By the way, the modules don't only give you Wifi access, they bring extFs support and several other things.

Philippe
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ThoHug:
Longtime lurker, first time poster

Hello all...

First off, I want to say that these forms and this post in particular has been a wealth of knowledge and I am very happy to have gotten what information I have from it. I hope I can be pointed in the right direction here. I like to consider myself a tech guy. Computer science degree, tinkered w/hardware since most of you were in diapers, but long story short, here is the deal:

Objective - to be able to use custom ROMs using safestrap. For this matter, to be able to use any! So far, I have attempted venomous_vx_v2_at&t_na4 and at&t_Echoe_Illusion_Rom_v7_09Nov

Phone specs - rooted stocked i337 mf3 at&t phone. This came out of the box with mf3.

I can get safestrap loaded onto the phone and I can function within it. I can create a second ROM slot and it appears that I can load these ROMs into the slot. When I load venomous, I get stuck in a boot loop (easily fixed, btw, with safestrap, so thanks for THAT). If I try echoe (which is the one I really want), I can "boot" to the point that I can hear a startup sound, but no matter how long I wait, I get nothing on the screen. I have attempted to completely wipe the ROM slot and try again, but I still get the same results with either ROM.

Two questions. Is safestrap like an overlaid partition manager? Is it making false ROM partitions that the hardware of my phone then thinks are legit? Secondly, what am I doing wrong? I removed the ROM slot and have now manually removed safestrap, but I want desperately to play around with other ROMs. If I am doing this correctly (and I would like to think that I am), I would think that this should be working). It would be great if I could play around with 4.4, but I am getting confused as to whether or not I can do this.

A final curious thing. Before using safestrap, I had noticed that occasionally when I boot, the first splash screen would tell me that I had a custom ROM installed. It doesn't do it all the time, but I have a feeling this is telling me something as to why I cannot (even when I unroot my device) OTA to 4.3.

Thanks to any and all personalized help here. Again, great forums and great thread here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] MiiLLZz:
Updated Google Edition Rom?

Okay, Im using a I337 and I want a google edition rom that was higher than 4.2.2 and i found this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2537495 its a Google edition rom, just updated to 4.4.2. Would that work if i was to safestrap it? This whole 4.3 Mk2 update is really screwing with me lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] DeadlySin9:
Only a 4.2.2 Google Edition ROM works, and only if you're still on MF3. If you have MK2 then no Google Edition ROM's will work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jmjoyas:
Android version

at&t_Echoe_Illusion_Rom_v7_09Nov is a 4.3 based rom. For MF3, what you need is a 4.2.2 based rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ThoHug:
Was afraid I would hear this. Okay, SOOOOOO.... If I unroot my phone and attempt to download and install 4.3, when the phone reboots it gets to 25% and fails. This even happens when I do a factory reset of the phone and then attempt the same update. How do I get to 4.3?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ddubz:
your problem is those are 4.3 RoMs you need 4.2 roms for mf3 use safestrap 3.65 and make sure you get 4.2 roms or odin to stock mf3 then take OTA mk2 and use safe root then safestrap 3.71 and then your echoe v7 will work.

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It's Because Of Root You will need to odin to mf3 to get ota or just odin ucuemk2 to get to 4.3. The mk2 odin files are in att general thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ThoHug:
Thank you for your help on this one! I really appreciate it. I had found the answer before I could get back here to update my post, but you were correct (for future readers of this thread). I can't say thanks enough to everyone's help here in these forums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] t4duzan:
To add to what the others have said, the ones that are using the 4.4.2 GPE roms on their S4 don't have a locked bootloader and don't have to use Safestrap. You'll find that they probably have an MDL baseband, where as we're on MF3 or MK2.