yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] Vitruvian:
I just downloaded the apps without problem, thank u for the information ;)
[Android General] k1llacanon:
The apps are still paid on mine how u lot doing it?
[Android General] Bilgets:
lol seems everyone have different problem here..

my problem is

open amazon app store > login > go to free app of the week > click cut the rope > click free > click get app > processing > the app freeze
[Android General] rodaven:
same here
[Android General] jherbold:
I know about the free app of the day. I have the Amazon App Store downloaded and installed. I can get any free app of the day. What I cannot figure out is how to identify the other 9 normally paid apps that were also free today.
[Android General] FuMMoD:
I don't get what's so hard about this. I guess it's cause I'm on jellybean? Click the blue banner for app of day and download. Of course you have to sign in or create an account.
[Android General] raj_k_r:
Probably it is because of poor network. Best way is to login into Amazon account on your pc and get the app. It means you have purchased it and can download anytime, any day
[Android General] jlevy73:
Nice, thanks for sharing.
[Android General] o00o:
Here as well.
[Android General] leris2:
My country is not on the list to register a valid address. Any other way to get access to appstore?
[Android General] raj_k_r:
Using a dummy address of a country which is present in the list should work I think. You can give a try anyways.
[Android General] stkfigure:
Since I'm a broke-ass student living off my parent's money, free apps are my favorite kind. Thanks for letting us know. x)

Sent from my magical, flying, rainbow pooping Nexus⁴
[Android General] k1llacanon:
Deal is gone now was 24hr I was lucky just to snag SwiftKey the main one I wanted a bit long though I had to do it from dolphin browsers the app sucks... Once it purchased the free app I then opened the app store and downloaded.
[Android General] Bilgets:
anyone can provide a dummy address(es) ?

or y'all try this

1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW

Washington, DC 20500

(white house lol)

screw it i cant do this lol.. cant get it to download, always says geographical restriction
[Android General] Kameirus:
wont work cause obama uses a crackberry

lol
[Android General] FuMMoD:
Do the apps auto update in the Amazon app store? By that I mean do our paid apps we got got free during the offer continue to give us updates after we download it initially.
[Android General] MeDoOoS:
thxxxxxx

thxxxxxxxxx
[Android General] Th3ArchAngel:
Was also curious about amazon auto updating. I haven't found anything about it.
[Android General] raj_k_r:
Yes you get the updates. Only that you have update manually, no auto updates. You can do that by going to my apps->updates
[Android General] FuMMoD:
Is there anyway you can confirm this?
[Android General] raj_k_r:
I myself have updated many times for the apps I got free. I got some of the premium apps like splashtop remote, printershare which I have updated few times. I cannot say more than that :)
[Android General] FuMMoD:
Thanks, I'll take your word on that then. Hopefully swift key and Shazam react the same.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rdkay:
Has it USB host functionality to attach e.g. a hard drive?

Would be interesting to know :)

Regards,

Rainer
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RAGOv:
since universals cpu is PXA27x.....(272),then it has a USB host functionnality...and if u are wondering...then yes...this means that u can connect ur HDD to it,and guess what....it's the first HTC device with USB 2.0,so imagine!!!!!!! :D

RAGO :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rdkay:
:P Great news!!! Makes me wanna get this device even more :P :P :P
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] saldous:
So you want to carry a big device around and then an external hard disk drive! Seems a bit over the top for something to do your phone / email on.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] musawi:
But isnt the USB on the MDA IV mini usb? How do normal usb devices work on a mini usb port?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chris281080:
Magician has also an Intel PXA272 but as far as I know USB-Host isnt working. If it works please correct me.

Lets hope that USB-Host will work on Universal.

Has anyone tried USB-Host on Universal yet?

Btw is there another cable needed (are other Pins of the 5 in the MiniUSB Plug used?) or just an adapter for the end of the USB-Cabel
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rudegar:
the device have been been released yet so unless people here

get early samples to review i dont think anybody have tried it yet

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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Tekguru:
No time or kit handy to test I'm afraid.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dgpurvis:
I got sent some info that claimed the Universal does have USB host (from someone claiming to have one for testing but is under NDA) - but nothing confirmed or proved.

Having a PXA27x processor does not have to mean that the USB host functionality is made use of. The HP iPAQ hx4700 and Dell Axim X50v both have processors capable of USB hosting - but neither device makes use of it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RAGOv:
I didn't say that ONLY PXA27x have USB hosting functionality,and am quite sure ur right concerning the iPAQ and the Axim.... :wink:

"PXA27x CPUs have USB host functionality",said Intel:

"Does the Intel® PXA27x family processors support USB Host in addition to USB Client?

Yes, the Intel® PXA27x family processors, supports USB HOST and Client (Rev. 1.1 compliance) and USB On-The-Go (OTG). "

Read this http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/faq/pxa27x_faq.htm#usb

Still...untill the Universal is released and fully tested,all we are saying remains theories :wink:

untill then.......

greetings..

RAGO :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Mvmajorem:
A bit extreme though and I find it hard to accept that we need a USB client for the device. I mean what's next, having ActiveSync installed in the Universal and have other handheld devices sync in it as well? Weird...

Still the idea seems good...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dgpurvis:
Er... what?! I'm not sure you read my point at all...!? I said nothing about whether other processors have USB host or not - I'm not at all sure why you think I did?!

I simply pointed out that PDAs with the PXA27x processor don't always make use of its USB host functionality. In your original post you appeared to suggest that the presence of the PXA27x would mean the Unviersal definitely has host functionality - I was correcting that.

BTW - don't assume either that the Universal has USB 2.0 - I've not seen a single report that it does - and though the PXA27x does support it - only one Pocket PC with that processor has, to date, implemented it.

Remember - the XDA IIi has a PXA272 processor - and has USB Client 1.1 only and no USB host.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Bonzo:
No answer yet?

Come on people!

Surely, there are several testers on this forum already..

Why haven't you tested this yet?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rudegar:
who are the testers?

i havent seen any

but then i'm a bat ;)

well one problem with testing i guess is getting the cable

guess it would need usbA or B depending on the type of usb mass storage controller in one end and a universal connector in the other

if no such cable came with the device then

maybe people would have to make the cable themselvs
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
usb hosting

Well dudes, I sent an email to clubimate techsupport asking them about usb hosting capability, still waiting for an answer... maybe if enough people email them, they will take notice and put it in their faq or whatever...

greetings

Nabil H
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Daimaou:
I tired on my JASJAR and didn't work...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
At least JASJAR has the usbd.dll and usbhid.dll.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] akira:
i will try tonight

mda pro -> mini usb -> mini usb -> creative Zen micro Mass storage 5 gig
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gm:
i've already tried this.

jasjar-miniUSB w/ USB A-USB A-B gender changer-USB B->external harddisk.

nothing happens :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Can you connect a keyboard and tell us

what will happen ?

Edit: I'm not a microsoft expert, but if there

is a background program like activesync that

forces the port to slave mode, then nothing should

happen.

I don't remember its name, but this program

should be killed.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gm:
same.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
I'm not a microsoft expert, but if there

is a background program like ActiveSync that

forces the port to slave mode, then nothing should

happen.

I don't remember its name, but this program

should be killed.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] whtrbt7:
Ack!!!!!! I just got the developers explanation for the USB OTG situation. USB OTG has a certification process which means that you need to have the product tested for compliance before it reaches market. Devices supporting USB OTG will have a little green arrow that has On-The-Go logo right below the USB main logo. This can be printed on the box of the product. You can only use 2 USB OTG devices together. If one is OTG compliant and the other is not, it won't work. The second part of OTG is for Hi-speed (don't ask, just accept). Hi-speed is marked with a red arrow above the USB logo if it is compliant. USB OTG is different from USB host and is only meant for "limited" host capabilities. Anyone have a USB OTG HD out there? :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] decebal:
something like this might do it

http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=USBG-OTG1&cats=172&catid=172,177,140,161
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
We are not that much interested in the "pure" OTG functionality. We only want the host mode.

The PXA270 manual says that one needs

the 5V glue logic between the CPU and the USB connector

for the host to be functional.

HD is a slave device and will never be OTG.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Bonzo:
Could this help?

What if we looked really hard at the drivers for this

http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html

or it's SD equalient?

Maybe there are some files we could copy and modify to our needs?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
sd io offering usb 1.1 hosting

Bonzo, et al.

If its possible to get an sd io card that provides usb 1.1 hosting function to a pda that has sd io slots, it will be a shame if HTC did not integrate the functionality to the mobo with a usb hosting ready processor... or maybe they are trying to wait to implement it in yet another device to tempt us to upgrade again ;)

Nabil H out
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Carnivor:
I noticed in the registry

HKLM\system\storagemanager\profiles\USBxxProfile

one for each, cd fdd hdd

so the o/s knows about these things!

and also i see in the TRUEFFS_DOC1 in profiles and entry called Folder with value Extended_ROM and MountHidden with value 0x1, anyone changed this? whats it revealed if anything?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
usb hosting, yes, the asus A730W PDA does it

I am very disappointed with club imate technical support, they insult my intelligence by answering another question to the question I asked: Does their imate jasjar offer usb hosting, answer if u want extra storage sd expansion slot up to 2 GB allows you to do so, well here is asus A730W that offers usb hosting, so it can be done, but imate does not even bother to clarify, as probably they are undecided yet I guess: excerpts for the asus A730W advert:

It answers what we were wondering: u can implement usb hosting with windows mobile 5! Let us see if imate will make it worth it for those of us who bought their device! or maybe read and weep if you bought it as I did, and imate decides once again not to listen to their customers (a bit like Nokia or M$ for arrogance I should add)...

" The ASUS A730W is priced right at $569, which is a bit more than the Dell but you do get the camera, two batteries in the box and a USB host cable. Speaking of USB host, the ASUS A730 models are the only VGA Pocket PCs that offer it. So if you have a hankering to use USB mice, keyboards and mass storage devices, the ASUS will please you.

The A730W has a 520MHz Intel XScale processor, 128 megs of RAM, a CF type II slot and an SD slot supporting SDIO, a 1.3 megapixel camera with flash, a user-replaceable battery, Bluetooth, WiFi 802.11b and USB host capabilities. And of course, it has a 3.7" VGA display and runs Windows Mobile 2003 SE. To use USB peripherals, you'll use the included USB host cable which connects to the PDA's sync port and terminates in a standard USB connector. You can enable and disable USB host in the ASUS System Settings applet.

In the box you'll find the PDA, stylus, two Lithium Ion batteries, a charger, cradle, USB host cable, software CD, manual and a horizontal case with belt clip.

The A730W has 128 megs of RAM with 107.43 megs available to the user. This is the maximum amount of RAM that you'll find on a Pocket PC, and beats out the Dell and HP VGA offerings which have 64 megs of RAM.

Expansion

The A730W has an SD slot supporting SDIO and a CF slot that's compatible with type I and type II cards. In addition, you have Bluetooth and IR for further expansion. The USB host feature works well with keyboards, mice and USB mass storage devices. We tested USB keyboards, mice, an Iomega Zip 750 drive, a USB thumb flash drive and a four slot card reader and all worked! We tried a USB CDROM drive but that didn't work. In general, mice, keyboards and flash drives will work. For other devices you'll likely need a driver and USB drivers for Pocket PCs are scarce."

I-Mate listen...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] johnz:
you aren't right.. try to read something about fsc pocket loox 720/718 ;)

it has usb host also, camera, 128MB ram, 3.6" vga screen..

so asus isn't the only one :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
usb hosting

U mean the one who wrote the article...

This is just to point out that usb hosting is available for those oem's who bother to have it implemented... ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
rom update

I hope that in the rom update imate will have the courtesy of adding usb host functionality...

the asus costs half as much (albeit being a pure pda without a phone, but i rarely use a pda as a phone anyways) and has usb hosting!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rdkay:
What about this driver ?

http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html (Mass Storage Driver)

or otherwise stated above:

Right!! If a remember right there is a driver that can be installed on PPC which make them appear on the PC as a Mass Storage Device!

See this one:

http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/

This at least should work!! (You have then two Mass storage devices connected to the USB-OTG Connector!)

I haven't yet got my MDA Pro so I cannot try

:?

Regards,

Rainer
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sub69:
That works for turning your PDA into a mass storage device, but as far as turning your PDA into the *host* for a mass storage device, we're no closer... :-(

(...as there's not much point in plugging one storage device into another one!)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] akira:
what about this?

http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
usb driver for pocketpc

Akira, this usb driver looks promising (http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html) ,

I would give it a try, but I am concerned as it is beta and the author warns about loss of data :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] rdkay:
Well if you wan't e.g. to copy the images from your digital camera (mass storage) to the universal (to send them away) then you can do it with that method!!! But you cannot use mouse, keyboard, etc...

Regards,

Rainer
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] akira:
more bout streaming full screen movies on yer pda in the car

from tha hdd
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Rudegar:
it only works when it's connected to the pc in which case you can just copy it to the my pocketpc documents and sync
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
usb hosting

I am sure if someone could hack into the asus A730W and get all the settings that allow usb hosting connectivity, one might be able to replicate them on the universal, that is if, and that is a big if, the bus of the mobo allows for a link to the processor usb hosting channel, so we need an asus A730W specialist ;), however it seems this could be done in software as our guy in Akira's link above seems to be trying to do... My gut feeling is it can be done, but maybe it requires the additional step of tweaking the hardware as well which is beyond us (HTC is the boss there being the manufacturer, i-mate, O2, T-Mobile just customers ordering hardware specs, and if HTC didnt bother to include that in the mobo, forget it...) Maybe someone bold enough can email HTC and ask :)

Greetings

Nabil H
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: usb hosting

It is probably easier to boot Linux on Universal :)

There is a PXA27x ohci host driver there.

You only need to bet that HTC did the wiring.

Many other "power-saving" companies don't do it.

Example: HP jornada 820 -> HP jornada 720.

Both have usb ohci, 720 has no wiring, 820 is

the older model and has the wiring.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] sub69:
Well, I've used this software on my Jam, and once it's running, it basically turns your device into an SD Card reader (for connection purposes). If you plug your PPC into a storage device, you can't actually see that storage device appear in your PPC's File Explorer or anything so there's no way of copying pictures, etc. between the two...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
me again

. i emailed again i-mate techsupport with this same issue, but they are still mute, maybe they don't know themselves, so the only ones who know are the HTC guys in taiwan who produce the boards...

. but surely the power saving is not an issue if they give u the option to switch it off as for the Asus A730W.

. I think it is logical, if u gloat that this is a mini-laptop that usb hosting is implemented, + it is never bad to have extra potential functionality anyways, i am sure they are saving this for another hardware release, to make customers buy more, thats all in the spirit of sales...

. I wish I purchased the Asus A730W instead, because for me to have access to massive storage is important

. i wanted a "mini-laptop" because that saves me from carrying a laptop around...

greetings,

Nabil H
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
HTC

I just wrote emails to HTC asking them about this usb hosting, its starting to bug me that we cannot get a straight answer...

let us see how civil they are...

copy of my emaill:

Dear Sir/Madam,

My apologies for writing to you about this matter, but I am getting conflicting information from your different outlets (ie i-mate, o2, t-mobile etc) and IT technology news services.

Can you kindly please answer this question:

Does your HTC Universal support USB hosting capability (since it has a cpu that supports it)?

If so, how does it get activated to recognise external usb devices such as mouse, keyboard, usb storage, etc.

Your answer and co-operation will be much appreciated.

Yours truly

..etc
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
Response from HTC

Hi folks, sorry to burst our bubble of us usb host function fans, this was the response from Maggie Cheng of PR division in HTC:

Hi, Sir,

The HTC Universal doesn’t support USB hosting capability for sure and hope that will clear the confusion you had before.

Regards,

PR/HTC

This thread can now be closed :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] decebal:
Unfortunately ... but who knows ... we'll might find out that they did connect all the wires afterall.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
wires

If they answer like that i dont think they did (connect all wires) ...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: usb hosting

A730W has a bit more usb dlls than Universal:

usbd.dll

usbhid.dll

USBDISK6.dll

USBMSC.dll

USBPRN.dll
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Dubrand:
Re: Response from HTC

He never said, it's impossible. He wrote, it's not inside (at factory rollout. This is what we mentioned.

We dont know, what's missing: hardware or software?

The games must go on ...

@cr2: can you send the different DLLs?

Greetings. Gerd Dubrand
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: Response from HTC

No, but you can search for them in the ROM update.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
oki

Right someone (Akira's link above) is working on a usb hosting capability in software,

but I did not try his stuff because he warns it might damage hardware :(

- but i am not saying its impossible...

but here we have a gal from HTC who says they didnot include usb functionality, I assume its the hardware she is talking about, since they are the oem ...

btw cr2 how good is the asus A730W for a pocketpc using wm2003?

thanx
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: oki

If the OHCI port is not connected _in hardware_ to the USB socket, the software

would not help.

Do you really think the PR gal knows

about the hardware ? 8)

No idea. I've only looked at its ROM.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Bonzo:
Could this be done by a simple wire from plug to chip, or are we talking about circuitry between layers?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
yeah

Dude the gal works in taiwan headquarters and she is in the PR office, the least she could do is know about their own products, otherwise its very bad for their name/image. I worked in american express customer services in the past and we were trained on and off for several weeks to know about every single products specs they provide and how to deal with any queries, one of them if someone ask u a question for which u dont know the answer, grab a supervisor and get the right answer...

Nabil H out
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
From the PXA27x manual:

...

A USB host must supply 5.0 volts (per the USB specification); however, the PXA27x processor does not have 5.0-volt-tolerant pads. Therefore, system designers must provide an external device to interface the USBHPEN and USBHPWR pins to the power supply and over-current detection circuits.

...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: yeah

The shipped "product" does not support USB host, this is a true statement.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
overcurrent

cr2

So basically the asus guys dealt with the over-voltage to the cpu whereas htc didnt bother :(,

i wish at least if htc bothered to include two sd slots instead of one, because i install all my apps on sd card because of lack of space,

i could have used the spare sd slot to get an sdio usb hoster ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
Re: overcurrent

They have ASIC3 and PXA270 in Universal,

both have MMC/SDIO controllers, so it was also

only a question of wiring :)

BTW, the same applies to BlueAngel

(ASIC3+ATI3200). ATI3200 has the USB OTG

and SDIO. Hitachi used them in its G1000 phone.

As i have said HTC is the "power-saving" company :twisted:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] nabil2000:
power saver = customer loser

i guess they lose customers too ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cr2:
USB host

I am a bit speculating here, but IMHO we are

screwed. It is highly likely that the USB host

port is used for the communication with the

Qualcomm GSM/UMTS chipset :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] GadiShoshani:
Im not sure i understood u guy -

So even the "USB-ON-THE-GO Bridge with 2 built-in USB OTG ports to connect Two USB" from

http://www.usbgear.com/computer_cable_details.cfm?sku=USBG-OTG1&cats=172&catid=172,177,140,161

wont work?

no chance of connecting an mp3 player / Mass sto. ?

in not a super tech - but if there is a mini usb - there MUST be a way of convertinhg mini usb 1.1 OTG to normal or whatever.

and then again... maybe not (??)

has any 1 yry tried with this above connector?