yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
I'm not dictating. Just judging the situation.

Do you really think it will take more than a week to get a rom to buzz? I would call it wishfull thinking.

I think it is reasonably thinking to think that if after a week, the rom is not on buzz hands, with all this solutions, we can loose some hope. Just like when after a week, it is not expected to find more survivers of an earthquake (but they still can exist).

If it exist even after that week, I will not be counting on it. It would be a pleasant surprise.

Don't read my comment as a ultimatum. It is not. Just what I (and some of us) will be thinking after that week (and I think nobody gives a ****, even thought I write it).

READ THIS WELL: NOBODY HERE IS FORCING RAPTOR TO SEND THE ROM. IF HE WANTS TO KEEP IT, HE CAN KEEP IT. SO AS BUZZ, HE IS NOT OBLIGATED IN ANY FORM TO GIVE US A ROM. NOBODY THINKS THAT.

And now i'm curious. What would you think next week, if you don't have any news about buzz having the rom?

What pisses me off most is not the rom (f*ck the rom), just you people that think we are ungratefull just because we don't believe based on facts.

If raptor has not given us anything besides fuzzy info, what would make us gratefull at first place? We usually are gratefull for something people do to us, and as of today, I never got a single thing from raptor besides fuzzy info. So, why make us ungratefull if we didn't have reasons to be greatfull in the first place?

Will you be gratefull to someone who post a fake on edonkey, just because he make you dream for the first 5 minutes? No!

We all will be gratefull to raptor if he actually delivers the rom to us. He will surelly be praised! Otherwise, he will just be another guy like me and you, who talks in the forum and has a kid and an injured back.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] sporkguy:
surely we can try and find this mythical rom the technician is using on his Jam? obviously HE got it from somewhere, so rather than get it from HIM, why not try and find that original one ourselves?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ChUcKiE:
yeah maybe I overread it, or it isen't posted already, but where did the first guy get the rom from? Can't we get in contact with this firts guy, or the one from where he got his rom???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
I think he told raptor that he got it like a normal update from the manufacturer.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] elyl:
Oh geez peace.

Bloody hell.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] leofungwai:
Sorry ... for my poort english

I just hope can give my little support to this community

I just thought he need a FTP for store .....

sorry for misunderstand

anyway, I believe all member here will try their best to help buzz and all ppl that work for the wm5 !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] alelas:
:shock:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] wildcard:
raptorz, PM me your address and I'll have Fedex/DHL/UPS there in 30 min to pickup the ROM. If you're concerned about your ROM, I'll have them deliver you a new one... what size / type was it?

Or PM buzz and I'm sure he'd be willing to do the same, I'd be happy give him my fedex number.

I hate to be added to the nay sayers but it's very unlikely that *any* of the posters to this forum would have trouble connecting to the internet or the inability to upload a ~50MB file, as most of the posters to this forum would be considered "wired" or "connected".
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] raptorz2003x:
not happy

ok, update. me and buz have aranged a personal meeting regarding the rom, its all being delt with despite what you guys say. i aprechiate all your suggestions but arengemtns were already in the making. i shal be meeting up with a represetative of buzz and personally handing him hte rom myself. i would also like to add to many of the people here... im not sure if you guys are adults or children or whatever its irelivant what is relivent is its been hard due to many as you said *fuzzy* problems, i want to be tehre for my daughter not leave her to dedicate my life to pleaseing 100s of people ive never met, but ive still found the time ot do both, its not a matter of growing up on your part its a matter of aprechiatng the fact that im bound to a wheel chair and cannot just run down hte local libary to emial something to you or send via my own connection due to a 56k (3600kbps) wich disconnects every2 hours. arangments had been made to meet up with a buzz rep before your suggestions of the ftp. i would aprechiate it if you gave me a little more respect for even bothering with you. maybe you feel i dont deserve it but then you dont render it from me either. excuse my english im not very good at it befor eflamming over my spelling or incorect use of words as you seem to flame everything else.. truth of the matter is most of you belive if you dont have it it cant exist.. well im working on getting it to you. a month back you belived that no BA rom existed and any claim of it was flamied... yet a nooB proved you all wrong a mere week ago, take this into account of a 3 year old member who has givern results before. i will also add due to the biast arogent single tract members on here i will provide buzz the rom but i will no longer be apart of this community. this site started as a genral help siet where users can share their information and roms, its become a internatinal flammer, acusation and just damn rite rude community. i will still provide the rom (lucky for you im not hildish enough to keep the rom to myself becuae of a few arogent people who cant see past their own arses.) please stop with teh flamming its pointless and doesnt get you anywear your just embarsing yourselfs with your impationt and childish behavior. yes you havnt seen proof of this rom, yes you feel it doesnt exist.. explain the BA rom situation? is it not the same? excually. consider that other people have lifes and personal problems that no webpage of random stranger can come over. consider that im in enough pain as it is withought the additon of having my name slandered? that is all i have to say other than be paitent and yes its being sorted with buzz and arangments have been made.. thankyou and goodday
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ibanyard:
Re: not happy

Hehehe, couldn't put it better myself... But don't let a minority spoil the site for you!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Raptor told us on one early post

So, if someone told on a forum that he has wm5, why didn't raptor trust them, and came here to get some proofs?

Simple, because ppl need proof of this thing to believe. We just did the same thing, questioning.

If you are so offended raptor, maybe the better thing was to get the rom to yourself and stick with your family or get some rest to fix your back, as that is the most important part of life. Sometime someone would find that rom and share it with us and then we will not own you nothing.

All your posts were just full of inconsistency (just like I'm sending the rom to buzz and buzz didn't receive anything) or you being a martir of this cause.

You only have a rom man! not the cure to all sickness.

And as youre not god you should understand that ppl can doubt you just as you doubt the other forum posters.

NOBODY here was against you in the first place. Neither nobody here speak bad things about you, besides that probably you didn't have the rom. We just didn't belive in you because of the facts, all that coincident and strange facts. For god sake, who's the guy that cames to a forum and cannot upload a 22mb file that would take 1:30h even on 56k? It is you, right! But, don'0t you think its reasonable for people to think it is strange that you broke your back, and then you could not upload a file, and that you were posting on psp forums and not telling us nothing? I'm not telling you did that on purpose, or that it was a lie, just that ppl thought it was strange, because in the first place it was a doubtfull thing to someone to get that wm5.0 rom.

Dont even compare this with the BA story. This story was full of quirks. On BA, a guy have a rom, sent it to buzz, and it was a true story. He did not take 2 weeks, neither he broke is back, and he surelly had a decent connection. So, the history was not so doubt-prone like this one.

I'm sorry that you can't dont understand that all the doubt was justifiable and nobody was against you.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ultimasnake:
Hey raptor, i think it's a great thing to hear you take good care of the girly :d respect for that. I'm also not sure why some people have to be that rushy.

I myself create software for smartphones and ppcs FOR FREE and also some people keep emailing me when something will be pushed out since i've been working on it for soooo long...

everything takes time, and the more time it takes the more it will be worth....

Respect ;)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] daffie:
You sir are an unbelievable moron, pardon my french. The guy just explained to you why and how things are very complicated (for him personally) and still you go ahead and write your BS. Complaining he has a God-complex, where as you and other assholes can't wait even a single day without screaming about him not sticking to the "deal". Whatever "deal" you and others imagined was promised. So have some curtousy and give the guy a break. You should be very gratefull for him even bothering working on the ROM ! He is doing this out of kindness. Have some f-ing respect.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Gtot:
I don't understand it.

It really would be nice with som tollerance between people here. Yes, i have had my doubts also, but i have keept them private. I really don't understand why all the people "that can't wait" just doesn't forget this thread, instead of constantly attacking other people.

gtot
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mian2005:
Guys, just WAIT for some days :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ChUcKiE:
Sorry to say but I think it is better for some people to say nothing between now and the next week.

The chance that raptorz is willing to give Buzz the rom will only less if yo guyz are here posting this sort of crap against the good will of the starter of this thread.

I think the same as the one above here, please keep your negative thoughs private and only make them public is it turns out AT THE END.

Get a life and what the hack you must do another couple days with your windows mobile 2003.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] job:
To rjtd

Ainda não percebeste que fazias um trabalho melhor se falasses menos. Controla-te se fores adulto para isso. Uma ROM não é suficiente para as pessoas se andarem ou sentirem-se ofendidas por causa disso. E se achas que não o fizeste, aliás só tu é que deves achar isso, deixa passar e CALA-TE! Deixas as coisas andar. Eles com certeza sabem de todas alternativas e mais que tu não sabes. Se der dá se não der outro virá. Percebeste! Vê se cresces.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] daffie:
Re: To rjtd

That's some good advice. (Babelfish is your friend :) )
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Nao esta em causa haver rom ou nao.

O que esta em causa eh o ppl vir para aqui falar como se alguem tivesse ofendido ou como se fossemos mal agradecidos.

Que eu saiba o que aconteceu foi ppl duvidar da veracidade da historia, que a meu ver é justificado pela quantidade de coisas caricatas que aconteceram.

Coisas do genero alguem nao conseguir mandar um file de 25mb, ou andar a falar nums forums q n vir ca responder. Nao era obrigado, apenas criou a duvida.

Espero que passe a telha aos ofendidos.

To spare you babelfish, I'm just telling that the problem is not the rom, but the ppl that keep talking in here like we offended raptor or something. We only doubt the veracity of the story, and as this is a forum, we verbalized it.

Just like raptor doubt the other that sayed they have the rom. It is a natural thing. Nobody here was demanding the rom, neither saying that anyone was obligated to send it orsaying that people were bad persons.

All we do was disbelieve, and verbalize it.

I hope now it is clear to you.

The question is how much time it takes to consider a post a fake one. We reacted after two weeks of no news. Isn't it justifiable?! WTF. UNDERSTAND! NOBODY HERE IS AGAINST RAPTOR, OR IS MAD BECAUSE OF NO ROM POSTED. PPL JUST DIDN'T BELIVE IN THIS STORY. Did you undestand? Damn.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
:o)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
@rjtd

i do trust raptorz.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] harlemyin:
me too!!

any more good news, buzz?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kta:
I think it's about time to stop justifying each other now. IMHO we should all agree than there was room for doubting the news but raptorz gave us more explanation that anyone would hope for. And yes, he was not obliged to give any, but he did. Thanks for that.

Now that the ROM is on its way, let's make this thread a bit more productive.

What tools will we need when we get it? I downloaded ActiveSync 4.0 as this, I heard, is a minimum requirement.

Has the camera issue been resolved on the other HTC models?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] epo:
damn! i'm watching this thread since it started, and i was really looking forward to get this rom - whenever it would arrive...

at this time i'm starting to get so much pissed off because of those totally impatient people - behaving like small children on chrristmas.

why should anyone doubt what raptor was saying, later even buzz was saying it's thge truth. but those people flaming around and talking and posting **** like i've never seen before, those people should not get this rom..

raptor is as cool to say that he still wants to share the rom - respect for that, but all those flaming a***oles are not deserving thois rom. why can't they just wait till it's there, i mean, if there's not this chance for xda-dev to get a magician wm5 rom, probably noone would have ever seen one of these...

anyway, just my thoughts, and now i lean back and wait what happens here...

best regards

epo
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Micman:
DUDE, you're reading my mind.

This is totally ****ed up ! And I wouldn't even be pissed if raptor would not give the damn rom.

@raptor: Keep it to yourself, and the stupid ignorants can blame theirselves !!!!

Greets
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] M4io:
omg.

12 pages of vaporware.

I'll do my part and give all the people who are monitoring this thread a nice email saying there is yet again a post without any constructive content.

I really feel like like deleting all post without content from this thread. Leaving about 5 posts. :twisted:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] unlockMe:
So, who's on the "Raptor: don't post your ROM" list?

I agree that after reading 12 pages of bull****, everybody with a real copy of that WM5 (Buzz says he trusts Raptor, don't see why I would not believe what he says) would be faced with two options:

- do not post the Rom, and have all these silly childish assholes go get their Rom by themselves, instead of complaining all day long about the rom not being posted

- do not talk anymore in this forum

I would greatly support you for doing that man!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] kta:
Do these ppl asking raptor to keep the ROM for himself own a Magician themselves if I may ask?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hrb:
Wait for QTEK 9100

Just to add to the 12 page Bollywood Drama: why not wait another Month or so, then the QTEK 9100 (HTC Wizard) will be on the market (I have already ordered one). It has the surface size of the magician, due to the slide-keyboard it is about 5.3mm (1/5 of an inch) thicker than the magician. Has WLAN, EDGE, WM5, 128/64MB memory, etc. on it.

I would place a bet that the 9100 will be available before we get the famous magician WM5 ROM.

By that time, this thread will have approximately 35 pages (soon to be a record)

Cheers

hrb
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] arg0:
Re: Wait for QTEK 9100

Well, since we all are waiting... because magician is smaller and costs less; or even simply because it exists: there are people who already bought it and would enjoy having WM5 on their device despite commercial strategies of XDA/Qtek/I-mate/...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] dutty:
would probably be not that bad to delete all nonsense posts...

so what is the plan then? any eta on when your 'represantive' will hit the job?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
OK guys.

DOT HERE

that was enough.

Those who are thinking, that it is all just bull****, please continue your daily business as always and forget this thread.

Those who are still with us, please wait.

I'll let you know as soon as it will be available.

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
All right....

I want to apologise, for myself, to all disbelievers.

You were probably right.

As Raptorz is ignoring (well, at least not answering) my emails and PMs anymore, i suppose, he really doesn't have the file.

His last email reply was (22.9.2005):

I wrotte him back, to tell me, where he can meet my friend, but after that, i didn't receive anything...

...so I'm 'officially' :o) giving up.

Now we can discuss those two rabbits, i guess...

Topic is now unlocked.

buzz
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] adit:
Well thats that then, i just sold my xda mini yesterday anyway... main reason is the silver coat of the body just got thinner and i can see its plastic base :? looking forward for an experience with htc tornado as soon as its out... 8)

::adit
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] JeRoMe_aKa_JaY:
No problems Buzz.

Keep it cool ;)

Bye
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] heretic:
A rabbit chewing cable? GPRS won't let use Pocket Outlook? What kind of bull**** is that, guys? :shock:

Damn, what a ****head.... :evil:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] tjempeng:
Damn man ! That's a shame ! :evil:

Well at least i'm still happy with my QTek s100, especially now i'm using the windows vista skin for Wisbar Advanced 2 :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] blueeyedme:
At least we can be mad at his rabbit now :roll: :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] vijay555:
V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] DJW:
thanks for everything Buzz, you rule, still playing with wm5 on the BA.

madmonkeyboy
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Krypt:
And still you need to be polite...

Buzz.. Do you think it's a good thing to keep this thread open. It will result into a even bigger flame thread I think.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ill-tempered:
If that won't happen here i am guessing it will happen some place else.. Do you wqant to keep closing threads ad nauseum, or just leave this open for anyone to express his/her frustration...

just be civilized guys!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] buzz_lightyear:
@all

Please be so kind and express your frustration in civilized form.

THANX :o))))

buzz