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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] br0adband:
Had never seen or heard of those, but that yellow one is awesome (big fan of yellow and black schemes here), thanks for the info.

I'm still on the fence, remarkably, but I think I'm leaning more towards the Nexus 4 at the moment since I do want to participate in that Ubuntu Touch testing and development. The increased horsepower of the Nexus 4 (quad core, 2GB of RAM, etc) just make it the better device even in spite of me ending up paying almost twice as much (since the GN for me would be $150 brand new as noted). And according to that spreadsheet they use for tracking progress, it's the only device that currently is fully functional as far as the aspects they've worked on (Bluetooth doesn't work on anything of course, and some other hardware like the gyroscope, etc hasn't even started development yet).

Decisions, decisions... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
I really hate N4... So I choose my Galaxy Nexus.... :P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] im4eversmart:
Nexus 4 no doubt.It has better battery..more rams mean more speed , not to mention the better gpu.And with google chopped off 100 bucks of its price itll be a good deal for you mate.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jakTomas:
was going to get an iphone 5 instead of my nexus , but after i knew google dropped down the price on the nexus 4 , i think i will get that ,, what do u think guys ??
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lonestrider:
Nexus 4, if I can choose straightly without losing anything.

I would replace my GNex for Nexus 4 if I no need to add something else. I know it's impossible.

However, GNex is really an amazing device. Gonna use it for another year and I'll see what's next.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaijura:
I've had the N4 for awhile and I just bought a Galaxy Nexus. Main reason I did that is because to get unlimited data on AT&T, but that's something else.

Unofficial LTE is nothing special on the N4, tried out and it's blazing fast. But what good is faster data if it means reaching a data cap sooner. Have been living with HSPA 42 (network limitation to HSPA 21) without any issues other than you can't really surf youtube without complaining when you are getting primetime speeds at 1-2Mbps.

Performance wise, I don't use my N4 or any phone for that matter to use GPU/CPU intensive tasks and apps, those are for the tablet. Only things I use it for are standard phone tasks, maps, surfing, pdf, and office docs - don't really notice a difference between these tasks until you start multitasking, that's where the 2GB of the N4 really helps.

However if I had to choose one when not having either, the N4 is obviously the better choice for more bang with the buck. Unless you can get the GN discounted or on sale for $50-130 US price range, the 8GB N4 @ $199 is already a steal, and it puts the pricing of stuff like iPods to shame.

In the end - a person with both who doesn't do intensive cpu/gpu/mem hogging tasks on their phones might not really see a difference between the GN or N4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jackbane:
This is where I'm at as well. I can comfrtably stay with the GNex for months to a year and wait. Maybe for a better N4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nexusaurus:
That is called consumerism and is what the marketing and companies try so hard to you to believe in order you buy year over year a new phone, when in reality many apps dont even are optimized for dual core processors let alone quad or octa core.

TO THE OP:

Get your Galaxy Nexus. Its a superb phone that its not old at all. The sheep people and the companies try to thinking that a 1.5 year old phone is old and useless. I have mine and runs flowlesly all the apps I want the way I want. Go for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jadephyre:
No one here said that the GNex is old & useless, where did you get that from ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bagl0312:
I have both n4 and galaxy nexus. Even if I loved my galaxy nexus, I must say that there is no story when comparing it with n4, in terms of speed and smoothness.

For example in galaxy nexus some demanding apps like chrome and hangouts run slowly and cause redraws in the launcher, while they run flawlessly on n4.

I believe that the main difference is coming from the only 1gb of memory available in galaxy nexus.

N4 is a great phone, and actually I think is the way to go for people who like android, until n5 arrives...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] polar775:
thats exactly what im doing. especially if it comes out at the same pricepoint as the nexus 4. would buy asap.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Castro27:
I never said that it's old and useless afterall I'm still rocking my gnex, however it is showing it's age. Just open chrome or poweramp and you'll notice that. On chrome you get redraws every single time and poweramp simply closes due to the lack of ram (there's only 670 mb of usable ram which is pretty low for today's standards). And for how long do you think google will support Gnex? They don't care about it anymore, just look at the latest "update" which broke GPS (again) for lots of people, including me, and I haven't heard a damn thing about fixing it.

Like I said, if I was looking for a new phone today, i'd sure go for the N4 (or N5 if I could wait until november), buying a gnex today, unless you are going for an amazing deal, is the worst thing to do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] br0adband:
My intention with this was basically get a working decent phone (in a gamut of cheap crap ones or ones that are ridiculously expensive for no good reason) and then pay my T-Mobile $30 plan up for a full year in advance ($360 dumped into the account) so I don't have to even think about it again for 13 months, basically.

There are a ton of somewhat decent but not great phones out there: I had an LG Optimus L9 a few months ago and for all the crap it gets, it's not that bad of a phone but there are limits to what it can do considering it's a mid-high end smartphone but still fully capable of doing the basics.

I always wanted to get a Galaxy Nexus but simply could never afford one - using prepaid service means paying full price for the phone, and now that Google doesn't even sell them anymore that means I have been forced to keep an eye out for a used one in great to awesome condition, with all the accessories, original box, etc and nowadays those are few and far between. eBay sellers claim to have "brand new in the box" Gnexs for sale but they want $350+ for 'em and that's just not happening so, I know for an absolute fact the one I'm considering for $150 actually is brand new in the box and never opened before and it came literally straight from Google courtesy of an ex-Google employee that got it and never bothered to do anything with it whatsoever. I couldn't find a BNIB Galaxy Nexus anywhere on the planet for $150 these days so this is most definitely one of those "amazing deals" certainly.

The positives of the Gnex as mentioned in my first post still tend to very slightly keep it in favor, with the biggest one being the removable battery - that is an incredibly important thing to me because when I'm on the go I don't want to have to plug in at any point even in spite of the fact that I could (I carry a microUSB cable and tiny 1A charger with me basically always, go figure).

I'm not a heavy multitasker on a smartphone, never have been, no reason to suspect that would change at any point. I typically use the device for a task at a time, like listening to audio streams (Scanner Radio Pro, iHeartRadio, that sort of thing) or making phone calls, so in the long run 1GB - even with the limited 670MB-ish amount left for actual app usage - is still enough for me I believe.

Just one of those things I suppose, I won't go so far as to say this'll be a coin toss decision when I make it but, I suppose I just have to do more research into both. The Ubuntu Touch thing is also still relevant, going to look into that more today. As far as "future proofing," hell, I still have a Dell Axim X51v that I bought the day they became available (for $489, even) and it still works, it's still the most awesome single personal electronics device I've ever owned, and it still gives even current gen DAPs and PMPs a run for their insanely bloated pricing - and I still use it most every day for at least a few minutes for various purposes. "Future proofing" doesn't mean much when I use devices for long, sometimes very long periods of time. :)

Thanks for the continued input...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aquatix:
I really like my GNex, for a lot of reasons you mentioned yourself. The aesthetics are better, there's a great community around it and such.

However, battery life isn't that great. Combined with my device running out of memory almost constantly, makes me pine for a Nexus 5. The Nexus 4 is a lot more on par with my new Nexus 7 2013 edition (which I love), which makes it a lot more future proof. The 1.8GB of RAM available for apps is a lot better than the 680MB that the GNex has to deal with.

So, while totally I agree with your positive points about the Galaxy Nexus, I think paying the extra 100 bucks for the N4 is worth it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] madd0g:
Think of it as investing 100$ for the future per month, so it's less then 10$ for the next year that N4 will slowly go out of date with official support. Gnex will be out in couple months and it's low RAM performance is showing the age for the better part of the year.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Nexusaurus:
I never said you did say that. But the general comments telling to the OP that GNex is no longer at good performance any more is a little bit wrong. Sure, some apps consume too many RAM that this phone tends to freeze or crash, but this is because those apps are not optimized properly, in fact Facebook and Chrome are very well know by being very bad developed. For that, we must request very hard to the developers to properly develop their apps because 90% of the popular apps are not even optimized for Quad-Core, let's not say even Octa-Core processor.

Many people, specially enthusiasts like us, want their apps and their cells boot up and open in just 0.00000001 microseconds, and many are willing to buy a new phone year over year just to gain half a second in speed to open an app or just to slide their home screens without hipcups or because they want to swipe left and right their home screens with no lag.

Sure, you can do whatever you want with your money, its your money at the end. But this encourage the companies to give us crap over crap year over year without no innovation and just adding more useless cores to their processor for marketing purposes with no real value added just few microseconds gain overall and just to inflate the various performance apps like Quadrant among others.

In regards to Google support for GNex, well the last few updates have done very little and just adding more bugs, the last real update was JB 4.1 over a year ago, and that's all. And this is for N4, N7 and N10 no just a year and a half phone. But with the recent changes in regards to system updated, Google really now mainly on Google Services to provide updated to the core of the OS which is what most people seek when updating, the facefront changes are easily implemented with third apps or even Google has already been separating many core apps from the system to update them individually (Calendar, Keyboard, Music Player, etc) and I bet that there are many more to come.

At this rate, if my GNex doesnt breaks, can last with a decent performance until fall 2014 or even more, remember that like last resource, we have cooked ROMS. Sure, the average customer doesnt care about this things, but those customers doesnt care about half a second latency when opening apps either.

My ending words are: Get your GNex, is very cheap now dont be afraid, if you have the money to get another more pricey phone get it, if you want to spend only 150 bucks on the Gnex get it you will have a excellent phone for at least another 2 years.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 95Z28:
I'd go with the nexus 4. I'm still using my G'Nex and happy with it, it's always better to start with the more powerful device.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheyne1:
I completely agree with this. Im running my stock unrooted and it does everything from play intense games to multitask several apps no prob. I don't really get any launcher redraws at all either. I'd say save some money while still getting a great experience. Oh and one more thing people don't seem to remember is the next version of android is said to be optimized to run on devices with half our specs to the gnex will be just fine.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eksasol:
I already owned the Galaxy Nexus four times. It's one favorite phone ever despite some issues. Now that the Nexus 4 is $200, arguably cheaper than a mint condition Galaxy Nexus on Swappa, might as well give it a try.

Also 3 out of the 4 Galaxy Nexus I had got horrid AMOLED issues and some was overheating, which ruin some of the experience, so I'm looking forward to the IPS screen, I heard the Nexus 4 gets hot though. Before the Nexus 4 got a price cut I did not consider it at all because I was slightly disappointed at no USB OTG, no MHL, and glass body, but the price is convincing.

The fact the Nexus 4 have LTE for T-Mobile is a major reason for my purchase as well, even though HSPA is fast enough for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 2wyce:
My GNex just broke this week. :(

While I was disappointed that it's only about a month +/- away from the N5, I'm happy it's after the N4 price drop. I was perfectly fine with my GNex, especially after 4.3. I was hoping to hold on to it until next October and see what type of Nexus phone came out. Even if not that long, I thought it would last until the N5 had been out for a while.

If they had not dropped the price on the N4 I would have figured something else out (maybe a very cheap or used phone) until the N5 released. But considering my service is only $10/month, $280 (tax, shipping inc) wasn't too painful to order the N4 from GPlay, and it will still be an upgrade to me. I was afraid the N4 would be sold out, but it was in stock still. I'm a tech gadget nerd, but I'm not one who uses objects as status symbols, so I'm sure I'll be happy even if it's not the latest and greatest, but better than the one I had before. (translation, I'm not like my non-tech friends that feel they need a Note 3 because because it's big, expensive, and the "best", but barely know how to use Android :) )

I'll have my new N4 to play with this evening when I get home. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] orangecream:
Probably going for the nexus 5 as soon as it comes out. That is if it comes out on Sprint. I'm stuck on Sprint due to a deeply engrained family plan. The GNX has served me well. But it just feels too plasticy and processor seems too slow.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] InfDaMarvel:
Maybe a cheap off contract moto x but no type of Nexus for Sprint.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluechips:
Still using the Galaxy Nexus from the date it was released and have been very satisfied with it. I'll probably stay with this phone until it becomes obsolete in terms of updates :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] TacticalDesire:
I would recommend the nexus 4 for the extra $100. You'll be happier with it in the long run and you'll get more use out of it. Not to say the Gnex still isn't a great phone. But I think in the long run the Nexus 4 will prove to be the better purchase.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] thesebastian:
I came from Nexus 4. This is what i saw:

Nexus 4 adv:

- RAM (1GB ram is not enough for GN 4.3, sometimes i open a few apps (not games) and when i switch using "recent apps" they were closed to release occupied RAM).

- Display ( I think the N4 display uses less battery and it's much better if you calibrate gamma).

- Two Krait 1.5Ghz cores with Adreno 320 GPU are better for 4.3 smoothness (3rd/4th cores are almost not used since 4.3 N4 kernel in my opinion).

- More battery life.

Galaxy Nexus adv:

- Less battery usage on 2G calls and 3G mobile data. Specially when signal is low (Nexus 4 is a battery killer with all regarding cellular radio with that "tablet" SoC; Aka "HSIC_WAKELOCK").

- No "native" problems with WiFi drivers / Push notification delays. (N4 has some problems with some routers, it can be fixed with root and changing wifi drivers config file since 4.3 JWR; JSS = fixed).

- No problems with ECHO_CANCELLATION / NOISE_CANCELLATION over VoIP calls (Viber, Skype, etc).

- VoIP Apk + Proximity Sensor + Amoled = No problems when the screen is off over VoIP calls (Viber, Hangouts with Earpiece, Skype, etc). AMOLED color black => Screen is off (Nexus 4 black = Backlight still on).

- It's less wide (easier to use with 1 hand).

In summary: Nexus 4 is more tablet optimized, GN is more phone optimized.

I'm going to give my GN to my father and jump directly to N5. (BTW: This nexus has a faulty display, a lot of horizontal lines are OFF (black) even with 100% brightness...so i will buy screen replacement at eBay/Amazon in a future).

P.S: Maybe 4.4 improves GN and Nexus S (AOSP) performance ^^
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
Owning a GN now and I love it. Best phone I've had. I'm also on Verizon.

If Verizon supported the N4 and I lost my GN... right now only between the 2 I would pick the N4. I love GN but I could use something new to play with. I'd slap on a case to null your backplate issue. Id know I would unlock and use AOKP or CM with a fixed WiFi.

The GN is a GREAT phone but its a gen old. Owning a new N7 using a S4 chip, it is a nice addition. That's what I would do.

But with the N5 coming out and me being on Verizon, I *may* grab a G2 just to be "close". I don't know how similar they are and whether some of the dev would trickle down from the N5. I've been burned with LG before so I may wait and get a Galaxy S4 or S5 if/when it releases.

The G2 is $139 on Verizon with a 2yr contract right now. Good deal since work pays for it and it seems like a beast. S4 looks pretty too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaijura:
I consider the GN two smartphone gens old due to the SoC, rather than Nexii generations. The OMAP 4460 is definitely on par with the Exynos dual (sgs2 2011) era but lags behind of the likes of Krait/Tegra3/Exynos4 that dominated 2012. Now everyone is looking at the Exynos5, Snapdragon 600/800s for late 2013/early 2014. Unfortunately, TI OMAP seems to have dropped out of the smartphone market.

The interesting thing is barely anything from 2011 aside from the GNex is actively developed by mfg's any longer. Nor do they still have a community like the GNex / SGS2.

Samsung already gave up on the SGS2's though, I doubt it'll see 4.2.1, 4.2.2, 4.3, or 4.4 meanwhile the GNex still continues on. Everything else from 2011 was ditched by other mfg's a loooong time ago.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shadowam:
And thats why I'm glad I picked the GNexus :D

Gonna switch with Nexus 5 tho...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] qf19910623:
of course i choose N4
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] derlachendehans:
take the nexus 4.

i had the gnex for nearly 2 years. a great phone with an awful amoled display.

it is nearly impossible to read the screen outside, even when the sun is not shining.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jakTomas:
i have the chance to change my galaxy nexus +50$ and get N4 , should i do it ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] player911:
I think the answer was yes. The N4 is a better phone for the money.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hoclem24:
As someone who plays minimal games and mostly reads and texts on his phone... I prefer the gnex. Yeah, the processed is older.. But on 4.3 it still flies.

I'd go with the gnex and fork over $40 for the zerolemon 5900mah battery. Your phone will literally last 2 days heavy use/4 days light use. Combined with dynamic notifications (which benefits from the SAMOLED) it feels like a brand new phone.

But then again I'm not a big fan of non-removable batteries or LCD screens. Do whatcha feel!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bmg1001:
I can honestly say the Nexus 4. I had the GNEX for a year and a half before getting a Nexus 4 and I can say that the screen in the Galaxy Nexus really is horrible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] markjankovic:
Is it 8gb internal memory enough. I would like to buy N4?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrgnex:
Depends on what you do with it: heavy games are 2 GB each.. How much music do you have? Maybe other large files.. I can't live with 8 GB but if you have everything in the cloud or you use your phone for texting and browsing I think 8 GB will be enough.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] markjankovic:
No music, no big games and files, ty very much!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Narugawa:
I got a nexus 7 and i must to say 8 gigs is not so much ...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
The gnex does not fly as compared to 4.1 and the nexus 7(2012) running 4.2.2 beats my gnex on 4.3 hands down. The n4 is indeed faster, I'll take the n4 any day.

My 5¢ worth of opinion.

Beamed from my Maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ahmadairfan:
If i were you, sir, absolutely take the n4. The reason is even 4.3 has given the galaxy nexus a new life, it still lags whatsoever behind the n4.

The only pros from the galaxy nexus is the budget, and the screen. I prefer amoleds than lcds (am using it right now)

And yeah, this galaxy nexus is starting to show its age.

It depends on what you need, cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] md1008:
Unless SD card is a deal breaker, N⁴ is the way to go. Still not happy with googles omission of the SD card...give users plenty of storage 16,32,64 and if users want to add SD card they can. What ever not going to happen unless people really start demanding it, sadly not happening any time soon

I am running kit kat 4.4. on my note 2000
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tonylee83:
Nexus 4... no need to consider...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AndyYan:
If only Nex4 was released with a 16:9 (1280*720) screen rather than a 5:3 (1280*768 ) one... Since I bought GNex, I really adore its sleek, bar-like appearance brought by the 16:9 screen, and always felt that my Nex4 looks so "fat" :( Plus the glass back looks cool but is prone to scratch and falls. So yeah even with the performance advantage in mind, I'd still prefer a mint-condition GNex.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Nexus @ CM10.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
Who in the their right mind would take worse hardware all around? The gnex is a good phone but I don't see one way which it beats the nexus 4...

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Google doesn't make the hardware lg does...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] alpha-niner64:
Well, for one, the touch sensitivity is better on the Gnex than the Nexus 4 for the average user. Even though the battery life on the Nexus 4 is slightly better, it lacks a removable battery. Past a certain point, the specs of the phone stop mattering for what appears to be millisecond differences, as shown by the Pocketnow video.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
Eh any point can be proven through some biased video though. Touch sensitivity I don't know but the s4 pro in the nexus 4 is the same one as in the HTC one I believe... And its not milliseconds in difference its millions better... Can't argue touch sensitivity as I've heard of these issues before but specs do matter... Especially the massive difference in between.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AndyYan:
Performance advantages mostly in gaming realm. Yeah, if you love gaming, then why ask - go grab the best-spec'd phone you can get. I can say that in daily uses my GNex is just as fast as my Nex4. And because of the 16:9 screen ratio and the touch sensitivity/accuracy thing, I personally love GNex better.

Now it's your turn to get a Nex5 on its arrival, dude ;)

P.S. Nex4's APQ8064 (S4 Pro) is slightly underclocked than HTC One's Snapdragon 600, and Nex4 has very strict thermal policies as well, so default performance is far behind HTC One.

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM10.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cstrife999:
Eh after using my HTC one gaming is hardly the difference lol. Never used the n 4 but my one makes the gnex look like a og droid lol. Great phone for its time though no doubts. Not trying to bash the gnex heck I'm using it now lol