yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I will need to do all three for detailed testing and review. For everyday use it would be as a watchphone.

As far as the N3/Gear bundle goes, $599 and a two year contract. It's kind of a scammy way to skirt around the "If you want to use it, you have to buy a new phone". If you are upgrading ask yourself this, is 720P video capture so import that you would be will to give up all the features the Omate has that the Gear does not?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ronaldheld:
I was going to upgrade to the Note 3 anyway although with the bad thoughts coming from these fora i may not pick up the Gear.

I look forward to reading your reviews.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mcteague:
Sorry mate but the Gear looks awful in my view, and to think it's only a glorified bluetooth gadget, it seems you're only paying for the name as there's nothing else to it. Omate is the best way and only.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
Me, predominantly tethered.
[Ornate TrueSmart] |SavageD|:
Oh, I figured as much with the camera :(. Well I hope if ever they bring out an omate 2 with all the tech advancements an all, that they would be able to adjust the camera placement. Like you said, better having a camera there than having none.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Finally convinced the wife to let me back this for the dev version. Can't wait! When I get home from my holiday I'll get signed up for the sdk and jump into dev. Woooo
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Is that with the patch?

Yes. Including yours I've seen this only thee times. If you reported it elsewhere then make that two times.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
GREAT!

Looks like three...me, XDA, and BurnQc (xda member).

What is Omate doing about replacement units? I've read nothing but horror stories on dealing with Omate on warranty issues? Has anyone successfully had a TS replaced?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mety333:
Yes with your patch+root method.

I was happy with the battery life in the first two days i got it but then saw all the security flaws so i immedietly installed your patch.

Im too lazy to flash your custom rom though, it does have cool features (:

Thanks.

Sent from my beautiful purple friend Xperia Z.
[Ornate TrueSmart] gordon1hd1:
According to CPU-Z, one of the Omate watch I have also run at 1.00 ghz max also. Still haven't had a chance to check the other one.

Using stock 20130120-1900 firmware.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Are you noticing any excessive heat from this unit?
[Ornate TrueSmart] gordon1hd1:
So far no, but I haven't really done anything to push the CPU.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You noticed that as well?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Other than the noted cpu speed, any issues that may lead you to believe that it could be defective?

So far, I've have had an intermittent screen problem and high running temperatures...my watch seems to boot fast and run smooth. According to an xda member, the screen issue may be related to the Sapphire coating and static electricity. I have been able to alleviate it by grounding myself or releasing any buildup from carpet, blankets, etc. However, this seems to be a little out of sort...I shouldn't have to ground myself to use it.

Is anyone else noticing any kind of screen sensitivity issues?

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Yeah, today I took Dan's suggestion and installed Launcher8. After about 15 of configuring the tiles, I got concerned and had to stop.

Oh, and not sure if this is normal...but after charging the heat, imo, is definitely excessive.

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Anyone have a Umeox 420/1 that can run a HW check and post the CPU results?
[Ornate TrueSmart] gordon1hd1:
1) I have notice the erratic touch one in a while, so far for the 1 month I have had the watch, I notice the erratic touch behavior twice. Both time turning the screen off and turning it back on fixed the issue.

1a) Somewhat related to the touch sensor issue, I notice that it is super sensitive. Sometime when i am trying to type on the keyboard on the watch, it would pickup erratic touches when my thumb is hovering very close to the screen.

2) I been tinkering with the watch with the help of Lokifish and Daniel. So far I haven't notice any hardware issues (although I am battling with GPS locking issue right now, but I think it is a software issue, not a hardware one)

3) I haven't notice excessive heat after charging. In fact most time after charging my watch feel slightly warm on the back cover only, barely noticeable.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhax01:
I find this interesting because my battery life was horrible on the patch and my TS would intermittently get warm-ish; however, on the 1.1.0 ROM, my battery life far exceeds what I imagined would be normal. While these flashing tools are new to me, I'm reasonably experienced with android and was careful to wipe, etc... Is this another board revision issue I wonder??

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Oh, and if anyone on the ROM wants the original launcher, let me know, I deodexed it. I mean just the plain launcher, not the OUI v2 with scale live background, that thing sucks...
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Was the "warm-ish" behavior alleviated by the IO ROM, v1.1.0?
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhax01:
It was... I've experienced none of the same on the ROM vs the patch... I would normally attribute that to a "dirty" or bad flash but it happened both times I tried just the patch... So it seems to me that there's something else going on there.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Except for debloat, a launcher change, and some build.prop edits, there's no difference between the Patch and the ROM.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhax01:
Must be operator error then...
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The firmware seems to be fickle. Once, and only once, I had to flash back to stock and all I did was change the model name in the build.prop.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Quension:
Hmm, mine claims 1GHz too. I haven't spent enough time with it to determine other possible issues.

Suggested stress tests?
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
I've just sent an email to Cecilia asking if I can get a refund on the watch. Having read so many issues on Google+ of people having watersealing issues, buttons falling off and not responding, the sapphire coating scratching, I don't think that the device will live up to expectation. It's like having a car with airbags, only to find out that it doesn't work in the event of an accident.

As I mentioned on G+, this is looking less like a startup company wanting to produce the best product/service to its customers, and more like a Chinese knockoff company wanting to circumvent its legal and moral obligations. It's really disappointing as I had high hopes for this device, but if it doesn't live up to everyday usage, then it's going to be nothing more than a paperweight.

I'm going to order a Pebble Steel, I think. Been happy with my Pebble, just need something that looks less childlike.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vikemosabe:
I don't want to hijack this thread, but you may be happier with a galaxy gear with null rom on it than with a pebble.

Just my opinion, but I'll never go back to a semi-smart watch like the pebble after being spoiled by the likes the TS and Gear.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
Thanks, I'll keep an eye for a secondhand Gear where I am. Battery life is also a concern though.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Please repost with a screenshot in the main thread. I will be keeping a tally of how many TS's are reporting this issue.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2650067
[Ornate TrueSmart] mety333:
Checked mine and it says MAX 1GHZ in cpu-z pics attached...

...when messing with governor cpu it let you go up to only 1ghz too....

Pffffffffft...but who cares?? This smartwatch is so fast at doing anything!

Being enjoying this since i got it 12 days ago as its a great piece of technology (:

Besides... i bet its only a software issue thats underclocking it for some reason or bug.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Neuer_User:
Someone asked for a Umeox 420.

Here it is: Running lokis 1.0.1, it maxes out at 1GHz.

Otherwise no problem. No excessive heat, it's fast and responsive...
[Ornate TrueSmart] lirona:
Hi,

I have the same problem and it's very frustrating for me that, The watch looks beautiful and works well and I can not understand why there is a loud noise when I speak, I hope it's a software problem and the next versions will be resolved.

thanks,

Arie.
[Ornate TrueSmart] sm753:
Do you mind if I ask why? I'm honestly asking by the way, not asking in a **** kind of way, just so there's no misunderstanding. My TS is currently sitting on my desk at home powered off. I'm at my office and I'm wearing my Pebble still. Our wifi at work is locked down, approved devices only. Without wifi and without companion mode I don't know what to do with it. I'm happy with the device overall. I'm just not finding a whole lot of uses for it at the moment. I'm not too keen on the idea of popping the nanoSIM out of my phone, putting it into the microSIM adaptor, unscrewed the SIM card panel on the TS, sticking in the SIM card, and then screwing the panel back on and vice versa constantly.

On a side note: has anyone gotten data to work on AT&T? When I got the nano->microSIM adapter I bought, I followed the "guide" post from Lokifish to enable data, I even manually edited the APN to match what I have on my phone. Voice works fine, just no data. Anyone have any ideas?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jarocks:
[WIP][ROM] Checkmate

I thought I would share some details about an upcoming ROM I have been working on for the past several weeks based off the latest OTA.

Some features include:

1900 MHz Baseband!! ☺

Nomate Bloatware

Fully Deodexed

AOSP styled settings app (all options in the same list)

Dev Settings enabled by default with shortcut to MTK Engineering tools

SuperSU baked-in to the ROM

Latest Security fix by Lokifish

Universal init.d support

AOSP Lockscreen

Nova Launcher

DSP Manager

Advanced Power Menu

Status bar everywhere (wip)

Navbar and soft keys ☺

I'll include some screenshots later today when I have access to my TS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
It's going to require separate kernels for different versions.

By latest patch do you mean the one with the fixed brightness?

What is your install method?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jarocks:
I will support any and all of the x201 devices which I own and can therefore personally test this ROM on. Support at the moment includes 1gb/8gb 19000 MHz North American models.

As of right now installation remains a hurdle. My hope is a zip which can be flashed from recovery. In the meanwhile I might need to use your method (restoring from recovery).

I am using the patch with the brightness fix.

Tapatalked from my HTC Droid DNA
[Ornate TrueSmart] Quension:
Just went to go do that after having last left the TS at 78% and idle yesterday, and it wouldn't turn on. Plugged it in and it cycled the red-line battery icon 3 times before switching to a 1% "charging slosh" animation. Had to switch charger plugs about 4 minutes later, and it's a 50% slosh.

I know it's only 600mAh, but if it was actually charging that fast, I'd be concerned about the level of heat coming off the battery. There isn't any. The electronics in this thing, not well calibrated...

I'll get you a screenshot when it recovers.

On another note, the serial number on mine wasn't programmed either, and I've seen another person comment on that elsewhere, so I imagine there are quite a few "finishing" steps that were skipped in the rush to push these out the door.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
I noticed the same thing. I tend to agree with you...I too think that a few steps were skipped in order to pacify the angry backers and start delivery.

However, that's an easy fix...this discrepancy on the CPU frequency is getting more and more concerning as the list grows. So far, I have seen only two 1.3GHz screenshots...both of which belonged to VIDs.

I've been trying to play both sides on this one. I really don't think that Omate would take the chance of purposely releasing a under-spec'd device...but we really don't know.

This is why these things need to be addressed immediately. Silence from the Omate camp is expected, but only paves the way for mass speculation and rumors. Silence can be deadly in matters such as this.
[Ornate TrueSmart] bucho54:
I'm not the guy you are asking but I feel the same way he does right now. The first week or so I used the TS with my SIM installed and used my phone to connect to wifi when available. I don't talk much on my phone so it was a great experience. Even the couple calls I did get worked great with the exception to not being able to adjust the volume quickly while on call. After my week long test I went a few days just connecting to wifi on the TS when available. I start to feel your pain in that mode and I can connect to wifi at work. So if that was blocked it would be pretty worthless I agree.

My latest test is to use the built in tethering mode on my Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMod version 11-20140210-SNAPSHOT-M3-jflteatt. So calls and everything always go to my phone, but I can check emails, google hangouts, etc from the TS. SMS still goes to the phone as well, but I like that for now because I did have some issues starting new SMS chains from the TS during my first test (would fail due to sending a 7 digit number even though 10 digit was used). I have also moved over to streaming podcasts from the TS using PocketCasts which is working out great and I find more convenient than my phone. The sync feature on the app made the transition painless.

As far as data on ATT, mine has worked from the start. I did go through the GPS tweaking also just to get locks faster but everything has worked since the start.

I am loving this watch so far and will love it that much more when the companion stuff works well. It does plenty as is though so I can hold out until everything else is ready. I can see how this could be a disappointment for some people really needing that phone extension. For me I was looking for something much more feature heavy and this fit that need very well. A friend of mine ended up buying a Pebble used recently and for him I think that was the perfect choice. He was looking for notifications only from his phone and for that purpose the Pebble wins for sure (at least for now).

I will say that adding on screen buttons is a must right now to gain the menu button specifically. Some apps require that button to get to that menu so I would suggest adding it if you plan on using a lot of random Google Play apps. I am currently using Floating Soft Keys and have been fairly happy with that solution so far.
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I can not seem to get that to do anything other than connect my 414.go to my note3 am I doing something wrong? and yes I did install both apps on my 414.go :/
[Ornate TrueSmart] crypticlama:
Still waiting for mine to be sent. Sigh
[Ornate TrueSmart] ewoks:
hi everybody,

can people who got Omate comment a bit on battery life and first/second impressions on watch? Thanks
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Model- NA 1/8 1900

Stock Firmware v20140115

CPU Clock- 1GHz

Cellular- On, (HSPA+)

WiFi, BT, GPS- Off

Syncing apps- Calendar, Email, G+, Hangouts

Volume- 100%

Screen Brightness- Min (this is actually pretty bright, about the same as a Nexus 4 @ 50%)

Results format- H/M/S

Battery Life Test (BTU Battery Test Utility used)

Talktime 2G/3G- PENDING

Standby- PENDING

Video Playback Test

Test file- Family Guy-its A Trap.m4v (702MB, 56.35min, 624x352, 1734kbps)

Starting Battery Level- 100%/4229mv

Total time til 15% Warning- 04:23:15

Web Browsing Test

Total time til 15% Warning- 01:56:05

Music Playback Test

Screen- Off

Test Files- Varied bitrates and formats

Total time til 15% Warning- (Gave up after 03:43:32 and was only down to 84%)

Streaming Video Playback Test (Netflix)

View- Full screen

Total time til 15% Warning- 01:48:15

AnTuTu X- 9270

Basemark ES 2.0 - Taiji Free- 54.47

CFBench (Native/Java/Overall)- 9539/3703/6037

Linpack for Android (Multithread)- 68.759

NenaMark2- 62.8fps

Smartbench 2012 (default)- 1654/3022

Ookla Speedtest.net- 52ms/5.62mbps/2.33mbps

Sunspider 1.0.2- 1799.0ms

Peacekeeper- 444

WebXPRT 2013 Overall Score-
[Ornate TrueSmart] sm753:
Companion app is back

FYI, Kurt posted this earlier this afternoon.

https://plus.google.com/+KurtHuwig/posts/LgcA1yju7oM

Companion app APK: http://www.huwig.de/companion.apk

Truesmart Master app on Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omate.osmart.master
[Ornate TrueSmart] CoolZoneAlex:
Tried the Companion APK on my Truesmart (Imperium Operative 1.1.0) and I get the Error "This application must be ran on Truesmart".
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
You need to fix the build.prop.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jarocks:
A proper nav bar could be added with with the Xposed Framework using Gravitybox.

Tapatalked from my HTC Droid DNA
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
Will it be possible to use this on 414.go? I really hope it is as I get that same issue with same rom on my 414.go
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I don't see why not, though developer has already said he'll fix this.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
[MENTION=4579641]CoolZoneAlex[/MENTION] -Already fixed in the Patch/MOD. Until some issues with ROM flashing can be fixed, that is where you will want to be.

[MENTION=5435003]NachTSS[/MENTION] -I chatted with Kurt, he is getting paid by installs on the TrueSmart and this may apply to all his work. Not ideal but I respect him and his work. With that, I'm not going to release workarounds or give any info on how to get past the checks as this would be seen as app piracy. Sorry.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
I preordered this watch back in July and it's so sad that it's now basically almost March and I've got no idea when I'll be getting my watch which really annoys me. I gave them my money to help get them funded and I have nothing to show for it. I know there were some drawbacks which is understandable but come on now how much patience can one person have? I feel like they update info but that don't really say all that much. I'm tempted to cancel it all together but Idk....

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You preordered the watch before it was even made public in August? How did you do that?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
I wasn't saying anyone should do anything illegal I was just hoping it would eventually support those watches too since your rom? does.

Kinda disappointed really as these watches are kinda useless without those apps unless you use an extra simcard and I think its ott to use a simcard in it if your not going to use it to make calls. Plus having data and 2g on constantly makes it have not so good battery life if you use it much.

So I hope someone makes a similar setup for those.

Or once I get my a.i watch my 414.go will be useless to me.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
I got in on a November Early Bird in the last couple days of the Kickstarter and just got my tracking number yesterday. There is hope!
[Ornate TrueSmart] knutars:
Have anyone had a go on the Spritz Inc readability system? It will make reading on tiny screens a breeze.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
So I finally got my Omate truesmart SmartWatch today and I was excited. But for some reason when I try to push the button to turn it on it doesn't turn on. So I've tried to charge in the cradle thinking maybe the battery was dead but still no go after charging it for a little.

I'm so annoyed because I don't know what's wrong with it? I'm sure it comes with a battery already in it so what gives? Can anyone please help me or comment... Thanks guys

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
If you open the back to see if the battery is in there or seated properly you void the Water resistant warranty. How does that work
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Yeah I know, if I open the back it voids the warranty but at this point I don't know what to do. The watch is brand new just got it today I go to power it on and nothing? I'm so annoyed.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
Mines on the way. If I was in your shoes I would open it up. I'm going to treat the Omate as Splash resistant
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Yeah I think that's what I'm going to have to do unfortunately... I don't want to but Idk what else to do. But then I'm afraid if I don't put the back on properly and it gets wet somehow that it'll ruin the watch.... So mad right now...it's just my luck

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What did you get on the screen when you put it on the charger?
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Nothing at all... It doesn't turn on or anything so Idk what's wrong or what to do.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Helgaiden:
Finally came in. Was a little scared when I opened it though because the box was badly damaged but the watch is okay so...whatever I guess. Here are some pics:

Some questions though:

-After downloading the Oclock app and selecting the watchface I liked most (Trek) and setting it as the lockscreen face, if I turn the truesmart on I see the stock digital watchface I first set up before I downloaded the new ones show, then the oClock one appears. Its very brief, but a little annoying. Is there a way to make it stop doing that and only display the oclock watchface I selected?

-the WatchOn app, it doesn't seem to work. I configured the wakeup position and minimum shake strength, but it doesn't seem to wake it up when I do it. Is there a trick to it? Help me get it to work if possible, please.

-I have the oSmart master app on my phone and have paired the devices. I have the oCompanion app on my truesmart and have verified the osmart proxy on my phone is turned on. I can get the ping and the pong working too. The watchface says I have 5 emails and 2 calls while I have none (I added my google account to the device in the settings so I assume its reading my gmail). Even when text messages on my phone in, it still says 0 on the watchface. Whats going on here? Why isn't it updating?

-The oClock watchfaces appear to be in 24-hr time format. How do I switch them to 12-hr time format? Ive verified in the android settings (and built in watchfaces) that it is in 12hr format but I cant seem to find an option for the oClock faces. Any help with this?

hmm that's all the questions I have for now. Any help would be appreciated! Really liking this little guy, I look forward to spending more time with it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Not all the faces are fully functional.

So WatchOn isn't working? Is this with or without the security patch?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Helgaiden:
WatchOn isn't working, that's correct. I can configure it and everything and can see the sensors are working, but it doesn't do what its supposed to do. I am unaware of security patches. This is straight out of the box. I connected to wifi and checked for update on the device itself though, said I was on the most current version.

So then which faces are fully functional?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Before you do anything else you want to apply the EnSec Root+Security Patch. It is the patch that Omate specifically recommends folks use on their TS.

I have not had any real time to even use mine for anything other than support and development purposes so I'm not sure which faces are fully functional.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
So I found out what the problem was the second charging cradle that came with my watch that I ordered was the problem because when I used the other one that came with with the watch it worked and started charging the watch. I'm glad I tried that before I unscrewed the back which would've voided my warranty. I'm just really happy the watch isn't defective cause that would've caused a whole other headache I didn't need.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I really need to write the "Fix" for the dock. I'm just so far behind on everything. If you don't see a dock fix guide get posted in the next week, give me a nudge.