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[Ornate TrueSmart] adlakeche:
Have to agree.

I got two TS first of Feb. Immediately used your patch and root. Did not install rom. Have all google services, full data, been working flawlessly. Not sure what all of the hoopla is about. Maybe I am using mine instead of trying to change it. Bought two to have a backup but so far have only kept 2nd one charged and rooted. Thanks for your dev work Lokfish:good:
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Looks like they're done with another batch and will be shipping soon. Hopefully mine's in that batch.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
"Oh, goody!" whispers eBay
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I saw one that was rooted and had loki's patch installed sell for $355 there. Ridiculous. Anyways, if my unit comes soon, I can hopefully start work on the easy root tool. :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
So my work increase the value? Interesting. No, not really. Actually ClearD, looks like the Moto campaign all over again for me so there will be plenty of room to stretch your legs. Not like it all that crowded to begin with. :p
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I'm not certain there's much I want to do with it yet at all lol. I shared your G+ post, btw! Apparently your work adds a cool $100 per watch! :laugh:
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
I'll say. *Crosses fingers...and toes...and legs...*
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Need an adventurous volunteer with a TrueSmart in hand, for testing purposes. I've got a one-click root built, and will be adding to it when able, to include full backup, restore, etc. Right now, it's just root, and reboot into recovery. The root doesn't include the recovery image yet, but it will in the next iteration. Just need to know root works first. Anyone interested, shoot me a PM. It'd be nice to enter it into the next hackathon. :) Thanks!
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Yeah--Ditto.
[Ornate TrueSmart] titimoby:
Only TrueSmart model or a AW414 may be useful?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
It couldn't hurt to try I suppose. Shoot me a pm and we'll see what happens. :)

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
There are at least four board revisions for the TS alone. Pearl has two or three. With the new Callisto 300, iconBIT has two. This should not affect root and low level changes but will affect things that go deeper than that. Bad part is that they are all x201's in the build.prop.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Do they have differing partitions or partition sizes? I figured an insecure boot image would be another good addition later on, but if it only works for the ts, I'll have to be specific about that I suppose. Or include several images and have it flash the proper one based on either an assert or user input...

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
So far the AW-421 is the only one with a different map.

As far as insecure boot, don't bother. They are all flagged as secure but they are not. Thus the security issue. (unrooted "secure" kernel and a recursive delete of /data soft bricks the device, mount/remount system and you can do the same with /system. All on factory firmware with no changes)

Right now, the U.S. TS requires a different kernel than the 512/4 EU from the other brands. The EU 512/4 firmware I released was after going through 13-14 different firmware releases to find one that worked on all 512/4 models for all brands. Toss in the EU 1/8 and I'll have to start the search all over.

Asserts probably won't work. There is absolutely no distinction between EU 512/4, EU 1/8 and US 1/8 models in the prop except for the OTA flags at the end of the prop and that only denotes EU vs US. That's part of the reason why I still have not released a proper noob proof ROM install with Goo.im OTA support.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Good Lord. So essentially, adb remount and no exploit is even needed. If that's the case, it'll be more of a toolbox than anything. Probably very similar to the one for the motoactv. Return to stock function and all that fun stuff.

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
When I said it was full of holes. I wasn't kidding.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Lovely. Well, first iteration uses motochopper for kicks and giggles (and most likely more compatibility), and is being tested right now. Just gave out the first link.
[Ornate TrueSmart] sny11:
100% agree with your second paragraph. I enjoy utilizing the technology but don't want to draw attention with it!
[Ornate TrueSmart] sny11:
First I want to say thank you to all at XDA that put so much heart and effort into the Truesmart project.

I have a Omate Truesmart U.S. Extreme edition smartwatch in route for delivery. After reading throughout this thread and several other threads at XDA concerning the Omate it seems as if this project has hit rock bottom.

Please pardon me for asking such basic questions. And any thoughts and opinions from anyone will be greatly appreciated.

When my watch arrives and assuming it running the original oem rom what kind of experience should I expect? Accordingly from my reads it will not bluetooth companion to my android 4.4.2 based phone, ie will not push outgoing phone calls or receive incoming phone calls, incoming or outgoins sms, or incoming or outgoing email, or other forms of notifications coming from hosting phone?

From what I gather it does somewhat work ok as stand alone if one uses sim card to utilize gsm service like at&t gophone? But even in that scenario data applications only work iffy? Also seems from my reading the Omate has security flaws?

I want to try to keep this post brief. I am at odds! Where do I go from this point? With all the different posts and references to different tutorials on patching this watch I am pretty well confused as where to start

So do I?

1: With help from this community in guiding me to the orderly links in order to modify this watch for better stability, security, & performance.

2: Leave it alone and hope for over the air updates to correct issues.

3: Upon delivery let it have it with a sledge hammer.

As I said earlier in this post, anyone's views would be appreciated.

And as always my thanks to everyone involved.
[Ornate TrueSmart] nishant786:
hi guys. Has anyone figured out how to install Google services on the 2100mhz model? the *#2013092 code doesn't seem to be working. And i don't want to root my device.

Any help would be much appreciated.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
Wow...just wow.

No, the code doesn't work. Install Google play and services via side load, AndroidPolice had a good article and link for that.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] sny11:
proximity sensor

Noob question here.

Does the Omate truesmart have proximity sensor?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Firmware/kernel or apps development?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I'd like to develop some medical apps but I haven't touched c++ in years.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Not sure yet, I haven't done app dev for Android. Probably more firmware or kernel. But I've been wanting to do android apps for some time too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] alabak2002:
You are paying 200 for "Samsung" and 99 for "Gear"
[Ornate TrueSmart] mcteague:
I like that
[Ornate TrueSmart] ronaldheld:
Not bad at all.
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
I'm interested in backing this watch but my main concern will be battery life? What's the chances of it lasting more than a day? I know it's difficult to say at this stage but the 100 standby hours they quote isn't too helpful.

I've just looked at the stretch goals and one of them is 720p video recording, which will be great and spare battery? This one got me puzzled as I didn't think the battery was removable?

My main use will be as a companion to my phone but there will be times when I'll want to use it as a stand alone. Do you think it'll be simple to switch between the two?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
100 hours is 4+ days, and to make it closer to 5 or 6, turn it off at night. I do this with my MotoACTV and can get a week easy on a single charge. And the back of the unit comes off (it's where the microSD card goes), so making the battery replaceable wouldn't be too hard, I don't think. It would be a Godsend, too. And yes, it should be as easy as turning off bluetooth if tethered, or moving your microSIM over if not tethered.
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
Great, thanks for the info. Seems like the Omate is streets ahead of what anybody else is offering. Is it a no brainer to pledge the extra $20 to upgrade to a gig of ram?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
That is what I'm doing
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Me too
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Thanks for the reminder, just upped my pledge to the required $219.
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
It seems that in order to change the battery you need to unscrew the back cover. Do you know if this is the case for the sim card as well?
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Camera position seems fine to me.

Plus- I don't feel that there should be a need to make it look `more distinguished ` - all the best things are understated and therefore avoid the eyes of thieves. It this was obviously looking like a high end device it might get `removed `from your wrist , possibly without your permission, or knowledge.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
From what I could see, it looked like the SIM card slot was on the side, covered by a tiny panel.
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
Yes, unscrew the back and replace battery. Not a big deal

SIM is on the side in a tray, kinda like the iPhone (except waterproof)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The battery life stats is for "Stand Alone" mode. So in that mode it's a cellphone with 4hrs talk time a +4 days of standby. "Companion" mode (think typical smartwatch) stats are not available yet.

One of the things I need to remind folks about with battery life is Bluetooth vs Cellular. Bluetooth radios uses 3 to 5 times less power than cellular radios. Not that long ago we were talking 25mA vs 125mA on some HTC phones. The Omate is Bluetooth Low Power (BT 4.0) capable which will also make a difference. All it needs is to have it's firmware updated to Android 4.3.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Devray:
Where are the three menu buttons on the watch? On the right side are two buttons and the can?
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
I'm interested to see how this will work as a companion to a smartwatch as this is how I'll be using it mostly. I wonder if it'll require an app to work, like other smartwatches have?

Hopefully we'll be able to read SMS from the smartphone, dismiss notifications etc.

Most of the emphasis seems to be on the standalone features at the moment.
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
I pledged for a dev edition + $20 extra memory...

The buttons are replaced by swipe gestures... Swipe left to right to go back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cTxxXX4XpE, Omate did also confirm it on the kickstarter page in a reply to me and someone else)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Devray:
[MENTION=3525155]SparkyRih[/MENTION] Thank you that's for me too difficult. I will install pie control works better for me. ;p
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
I think you'll like the gestures if you get it... Adding software buttons will take up a lot of space on such small display...
[Ornate TrueSmart] Devray:
please delete post.

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The pie control overlay the screen and is customizable to be very minimally.
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
Gestures would be way better imho...
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Haha...

We all first had to convince our wife's that this is great and we need it...

I really hope it'll be - if I put it in a drawer she'll never stop to nag ;)

But really, I hope it'll be as half as good I think it will.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I thought I was the only one convincing the wife. Lol
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
If you were to use pie, what would you have for shortcuts? The display size would be pretty limiting or you would need really small fingers if you had more than a couple shortcuts.
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
I haven't even told my wife yet! It'll be a nice surprise ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....16.16.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.jjgZ_imMeCw

That looks very similar...

And this one shows that Omate has something to do with it (look at 6:41, Omate is shown in the menu): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3TrFIIIYbw
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
That's the developmental model I believe.
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
It looks fantastic - very smooth and the camera looks decent too
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
Omate did confirm that they worked with the company...

But the Omate seems to be more complete to me...
[Ornate TrueSmart] markyboy81:
I think they're separate products as in one of the videos the representative said they were ready to go on sale in October. I agree the omate seems to be the more complete product, it's not clear whether the pearl will also act as a companion and the camera is only 3mp. However the battery is bigger, at 800mah
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I'll probably be using button savior as opposed to pie control. Lol. I really really wish it had more hardware buttons on the sides.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
I'm just curious how we'll be changing volumes..
[Ornate TrueSmart] OdieS:
Not to go too off-topic, but there are quite a few differences with the listed spec of the Pearl watch: http://www.pearl.de/a-PX1790-4073.shtml

Battery: The battery on the Pearl watch is indeed listed as 800 mAh, but then the spare battery they're selling is listed as 600 mAh.

Camera: 3mp vs 5 mp on the Omate

CPU: 1.2GHz dual-core vs 1.3GHz dual-core on the Omate

Wi-Fi: Only listed as b/g vs. b/g/n on the Omate

Stylus: Pearl are listing a stylus as being a supplied accessory.

Screen: I can't see any mention of sapphire glass on the Pearl.

RAM: No mention of the amount of RAM so assuming 512MB vs the 1GB option available to Omate backers for the extra $20.

Price: Pearl are currently taking pre-orders at 199 Euros (inc tax), so might end up being around the same as Kickstarter-backed Omate watches if EU backers get stung for import duties and tax. (US $199 = approx 150 Euros, plus ~20% VAT = 180 Euros, plus postage of $15, plus potentially other small customs charges and maybe also handling fees from the postal service)

I can't see any way Omate will be able to avoid this even if they have offices in the EU as they will still need to pay/charge VAT on watches 'sold' to people living in EU countries. There might be ways of them minimising the amount or making it a known fixed amount for backers by shipping from inside the EU to European backers, then we wouldn't get stung for the crazy handling fees some postal services charge on top of any VAT/customs due.

Interesting to note the cost of spares: 6.90 Euros (approx US $9) for a spare USB cable and 9.90 Euros (approx US $13) for a spare battery. I'm assuming these prices include 19% VAT. These prices seem pretty reasonable.

It would be great if the Omate representative could comment on how closely the two products (Pearl AW-414 and Omate True Smart) are related? Also whether the above are close indicative prices for the equivalent spare parts for the Omate True Smart?

I want to make it totally clear I'm not suggesting people go for the Pearl over backing the Omate, based on the above hardware differences and the way the development community for the True Smart is shaping up, it's definitely still very good value. Just want to know a bit more about the collaboration between Omate and Pearl on the AW-414 and what implications it might have on the True Smart when it comes to cost of spares, etc.
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
Yes, the Pearl does only have 512MB of RAM, they said so in one of the German vids on Youtube...

And there is also no mention of IP67 (Water Proof) certification on the pearl...

I pledged US$252,- ($199 dev edition + $15 Shipping + $20 1GB RAM + $18 T-shirt :D) which is about €191,- I still feel as if I'm steeling it from them...

Edit: Oh wait, it does have iP67... I'm sorry...
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I have purposed to Omate that internal and external storage be swapped in fstab.

To make sure folks understand how this works here are some examples.

Co-Pilot - 40MB in Apps

Maps for Co-Pilot - U.S./Canada 1.2GB in Primary Storage

Total space available for apps and storage combined would be 2.8GB

Now the SDCard can be made to be seen as Primary Storage so if you insert a 32GB card it then looks like this

Co-Pilot - 40MB in Apps

Maps for Co-Pilot - U.S./Canada 1.2GB in Primary Storage

Total space available for apps- 4GB

Total space available for storage- 30GB

(I know the above numbers are not 100% accurate but have been generalized to help avoid confusion)

A simple fix would be to require folks use an SDCard on all models. This would be a lot cheaper per GB than the 8GB option and not require folks wait for their TrueSmart. Another possible solution would be 4GB models require an SDCard and 8GB models do not.﻿

Unless you can keep track of all the files/pictures/songs and where they are stored, you don't want it split up. I've serviced thousands of phones and the majority of the time split storage causes issues. Example;

You get your TrueSmart and take some pics, install some apps, load up a couple songs and a couple days later you install an SDCard.

Now you add a couple more songs and take a couple more pics, maybe shoot a vid or two. While you are doing this the internal storage fills up. Android will start storing that stuff on the SDCard. Well couple months later your TrueSmart hard resets or you hard reset it yourself. Unless you are careful, everything stored on internal storage gets erased. I've seen people do this numerous times. I've even done this to peoples devices and my own as well.

As a phone technician this has been a nightmare. I have seen wedding pics and legal things get deleted forever simply because they thought that stuff was on the SDCard.﻿
[Ornate TrueSmart] jeremy.chan:
it has also been added that if you add $5 to the pledge, you can opt for an extra charging cable.
[Ornate TrueSmart] FinancialWar:
Lol

The reason why America is the most scientifically advanced nation and has the best ranking universities and corporations is simply because all the they take all the smart people from the rest of the world.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
​

Hello everyone I'm new to these forums. I've started work on Root-box as the title suggests. I'm using sources from http://github.com/GoldenMod which I believe are the right ones. I'll post my changes here and you can see my ported sources at http://github.com/thehacka1

Credits go to Maclaw, marcin and OliverG96!

Sorry if this thread looks crap. I'll update it when I have time.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] nolinuxnoparty:
Lol no.

Rootbox sources are www.github.com/Root-Box

EDIT:

The [DEV] tag is not required here. Basically this is a placeholder thread as no link is provided therefore it is considered as Placeholder
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Yes it is required. This is for development purposes. Not the actual ROM. Macalw opened one like this with no link. And GoldenMod is the golden device source not root box source. Think before you post my friend.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Feyerabend:
Hi thehacka1, welcome to this part of the forum. We met at Wildfire S forum :D. Glad to see you here.

PD: Good developer, guys :laugh:
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Yes I remember. Nice seeing you here. And thank you.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] tyre777:
Great more quality roms for the s3 mini! Although I think the device/kernel source you're planning to use is outdated, also Maclaw's device tree is closed source so better to use Oliverg96's sources instead. Looking forward to this
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
I already modified sources. I'll try building and will report back.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Kevinjoa:
Hi hackr, hope you are in good condition, but why aren't you online anymore in our hangouts group ? :(
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
I'm quite busy. Also I think I will leave the Marvellous team. I don't build for the wildfire s anymore.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Is there anyone here that can test and give logcats?
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
Me! I wanna test it!
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Deleted.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
I don't know why they or you deleted, but I got the link anyway. Do I need Gapps for this rom? What gapps?
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
I have modifoes sources and fixed a few bugs. Going to try building again.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
ok, so I'll wait for the link ;)
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Just issued:

Rom is building now! :D
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
But the other link wasn't rootbox!!! hehehe. Is that some kind of surprise? :o
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Yes. Dont tell anyone. Can you give the logcat of the other rom? :D
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
Don't worry, the secret is safe with me. But, dude, you gotta let me try it first!!!

Where is the oher rom?? on the first post?
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Not the rootbox rom. Ill send you a link via PM.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
got it ;) I'll give you my report this night when I come back home (it's 3:00 PM here)
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Android-Andi:
I know your "Secret" :D

Would be nice to see if it works ;)
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] macrolex:
I'll keep you guys updated ;)
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
With what? The special rom? :p
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
[MENTION=4037617]macrolex[/MENTION] I need that logcat.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Is there anyone here that can do an adb logcat? I need them urgently.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Kevinjoa:
Root your device and then do it do it. ;)
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
I might but wouldn't that mean that I would lose my warranty.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] thehacka1:
Building rootbox again but this time with Oliverg96's sources and a roomservice.xml. This way it should be compatible with all variants and should build correctly. I might also build another with GoldenMod sources.
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Yannpotier:
Compatibility

Hi!

Is this rom compatible with 8190"N" devices?

thanks,
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] efaustino84:
this is currently under development so i would not recommend that you try it out unless you know what you are doing
[Galaxy S III Mini Android Development] Kevinjoa:
[MENTION=4960614]thehacka1[/MENTION]

Let's build us this from source. We have to make some modifications I think.

Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using CM10
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] @work:
I came from a Verizon galaxy nexus and of course I had root so I was able to get Google wallet installed. I used it very frequently and I seem to remember a. No root apk floating around out there, but it does not seem to work anymore. Has anyone had luck with Google wallet on their ultra?
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] EVOme:
No luck here
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] empoweredh22:
There's no secure element. You physically lack the hardware. Google's given up on Wallet for all intents and purposes.
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] kcbboy:
Also being on a carrier that doesn't support wallet to begin with doesn't help.
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] @work:
Im not sure about that, isis initialized this phones secure element just fine. I think the nexus 7 lacks the secure element.
[Droid Ultra Themes and Apps] Casen:
I believe the secure element is in the Sim card now. Not sure if Google Wallet could use that when/if we get root.