yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] stratocaster:
correction

not possible says the chinese, i gave the machine back aswell
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Carty:
Nice to return the device :) But unfortunate that these O2 guys never consider making a WM5 upgrade for their devices especially Magician which is a lovely device still. WM5 is the only feature it stays behind. But still, the device is most stable devices made ever i feel.

Anyway, never worry about loosing your device again as you've already lost one ATom. Check out Ultimate Theft Alert for Pocket PC phones.

Regards,

Carty..
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jeffkewin:
When we start to see Alpine rose up again as the popular device ... with WM5 or WM6
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] animelover:
When the Alpine get a WM6 for itself, it would be like a new born Phoenix!

Alpine, the best PPC I ever had!!!!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] animelover:
i asked buzz if he would like to get my Alpine to develop a WM5 or better a WM6 for the Alpine! I'm strained what buzz say to it!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] onuer:
NOW we uptade our o2 wm5?

I want to setup wm5 my o2 XDAIIi

Is this possible?

And how to setup this rom?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] razielu:
Upgrading the HTC Alpine [QTek 2020i, O2 XDA IIi, Orange SPV M1500, etc.] to WM5 is not possible, and since WM6 Crossbow works on the very same kernel as WM5, upgrading to WM6 is also not possible, unfortunately. Too bad for the Alpine as it is a very good device!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] bushako:
lol

hey does any1 knw if the camera module on the xda2i would work on the xda2 himalaya...it seems that theres never going to be a wm5 for the alpine so im planning to replace the xda2i motherboard with another motherboard from an xda2 himalaya..i knw it sounds dumb...but i think hoping and waiting for a wm5 for alpine is much more dumber thing to do...
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Armarn:
oh noooo,

its very very bad news
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] JP2005:
I recently checked the O2 website and they have released the xda argon.

A supposed follow up to the xda IIi, but it runs on a samsung processor @ 400MHz (as the manual specs states).

But it ships with WM5 as the OS.

Is it possible to port it into the Alpine?

Is the xda argon even considered as an Alpine?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
Hi,

For now there's nothing possible to port WM5 on HTC Alpine. Even HTC Himalaya that 100% looks like Alpine also mean different when talking about what inside it.

I still do believe that buzz can do it but its too late.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] greenghost:
WM2005 for XDA IIi

Id like to use the pushing technologie and advanced bluetooth-features of WM2005 on my XDA IIi
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] nick111:
that is a interesting question discussed by so many people, WM5.0.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] bushako:
feeling sad

:(:( i feel sooooooo sad looking back at the old memories of the alpine....ahh the wm2003 and all the days of suffering of losing precious data from cold boots...but i still miss them..if only a wm5.0 was released for this piece i would have never had to turn my back on it and get the htc universal....frankly so far i find the jasjar the best of all imate phones regardless of it weight and dimension but its size is only proportional to the features packed in it...not to mention upgradeable to wm6.0...and its unique design from all the rest.with its keyboard and ohyea...the 3.5mm audio jack input...ahhh what more can i ask for....:D

long live alpine...you will always be remembered!!!:p
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Godl1ke.GC:
So no-one is actually working on XDA IIi's ROM upgrades? thats a shame if not, I would be willing to help out in any way I could.

I just recently got one, Think its great... think it would be even better with WM5 or WM6! :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jamieplucinski:
The Xda 2i wipes the floor when it comes to system specifications against half if not more than half of the WM5 devices out there, o2 saying they won't be releasing an upgrade because it's not supported is BS, the Xda 2i sold so many devices that they can't justify upgrading it and not cashing in on the upgrades to new WM5 devices.

When I was in the UK I saw people with an Xda2i daily, when I moved to Canada I still see businessmen running around with one, because for the money, the Xda 2i is a powerhouse of a mobile device, and I've seen people turn down any number of mobile devices to get their hands on one.

If anyone knew where to start in upgrading it to WM5 it'd be great, and I'm positive it's possible, until then we Alpine owners need to keep searching for that holy grail.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] aleksander100:
HAve you heard all about o2 flame it has 128 mb ram and wm5 so even o2 xda IIi does so what is the problem then cant they simply give an upgrade?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] xnym:
I have read a post in a HK newsgroup that claim WM5 for Xda IIi is available from dealer, but needed to be pay (for HKD few hundreds, ~USD100).

Does anyone heard the similar case in other country(s) ??
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] blurman:
don´t give up

i´ve never heard anything like that. i also got a htc alpine...and i just can´t understand why those stupid guys wont give us a wm 5 or 6 rom. now i´ve been searching for an equal pda for days. its just hopeless. 3.2 inch display, 520mhz, that size, weight for a payable price. i want to buy a new one but there aren´t any!! or have you guys found one??

i´ve been looking on german and english market... (the german is very poor). of course there is a xda flame but 900 bugs?! thats a joke. so i will keep my alpine and arg with the 2003 se OS :mad: until i found a new one or wait till they finally release an update......
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
i've given up waiting ,have just purchased the new tomtom 720 ,so it looks like this might be 1 of my last posts on this site as my xda will go into storage probably never to be used again
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] binh_hdda:
Any new about this matter....:(
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] samnangsonita:
Hi now i use XDA IIi and i want upgrade to WM5 or WM6 please help me
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] captirwin:
Read The Previous Posts

READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS:D

Start with #9 on page one.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kyrsid:
Drastic Measures

In these pages I have been reading a lot of complaints, alot of anger and distress, but also a lot of preasing of a phone we have all bought and lived with for quite some time and we are still happy with. And we believe that even after many years of being out on the market it still beats the lights out of new smart phones and pocket pc's.

So, are we happy? YES!

Do we want to change it? NO!

What are we going to do about it?

I propose to fix a date and time and send a dynamic message to let them know that the Alpine is a great machine and that WE WANT WM5 (or wm6) on our ALPINES!

I propose 31 of September at 21:00 GMT.

What do you say? Do you want to fight for your rights?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] viethai:
I agree but how can we do? Plz show me. May be our vote has no effect on Manufactures but it show how many of us agree to fight.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Arctic Matt:
I see your good and idea and raise it!

I agree end of semptember is good for me too. I have held out for a while now for getting a new phone as my hacked, upgraded and modified IIi still does the works. (I don't need built in GPS or 3G yet).

So here is my addon...

I will pay $100 to any one that can get me WM6 going smoothly on my IIi.

Anyone else want to join me?

I'll now begin a new thread based on this.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Alan Chan:
The Alpine was actually an awesome device at its time....128ram, wifi, bluetooth, 520mhz processor, 1.3 megapix camera. But its a shame to see no unofficial WM5 or WM6 ROM to be made for it :( . I was wondering if anyone out there actually still developing a custom ROM for it or the Alpine ROM is simply a forgotten project :mad:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] umbezt:
sorry to go a lil bit off here wanted to know if it's possible to upgrade myxda II to WM5 cuz i can't even watch anything online!!!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] captirwin:
your in the wrong section.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jeffkewin:
I have actually wait for it to be WM5 or WM6 but it is not happening..
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] beneyre:
well if they Release WM5 for the XDA IIi, / HTC Alpine, then that would then also open the floodgates for the HTC Magician / MDA Compact, since they use the same processor, just the Alpine is a few mhz faster, as for the magician only haveing 64mb ram and 64mb rom, that is not the issue really, as that can be over come, so if they release a wm5 for the alpine, then it looks a reality that the magician will get wm5 as well, via a home cooked rom

Ben
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] dickeywong888:
If there are WM5 rom release..I will get a 2nd hand one as it was a good price now..
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] babagoo:
Ive Just Bought A O2xda2i From Ebay At A Good Price Is There Any Way They Will Have Windos Mobile 5 On This Unit Or Should I Just Stick To The Windows 2003 Se ?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] alchopop:
sorry if this seems rude but one assumes you have read the "whole" thread

Alchopop
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Karlitos800:
Hi guys, i saw the specific of the new HTC 6300.. it's very similar to our xdaIIi, and designed for wm5..

do you think we can use its rom in our device? any problem to come back to wm03se if something doesn't work?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Rudegar:
if looking like another device was enough alpine would already have wm5 from himalaya

drivers is the only think that matters and i doubt HTC 6300 and alpine share many of those
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] The Owl:
I don't know why all the need for WM 5 / 6 the Alpine is one of the fastest PDA's made, I personally am happy with it and a mate who has a Orbit says its comparable with his 2003 SE might not be the latest but it does everything I need runs TT6 etc what more do I need?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] dazaau:
you need WM5/6
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] pbohemien:
What about the XDA Argon? Seems to be a XDA 2i with WM5! Isn't it?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Rudegar:
no it just have the same case non of the insides are alike
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] The Owl:
Well hate to disapoint you but I do not get "crash's" while using TomTom 6 and the phone, works fine for me, and dont get me wrong but being disabled and the driver I would not put up with it if it did.

I always have TT on when mobile even if I know where I am going purely for the speed camera warnings, (I was issued with a lead foot some years ago but TT helps me keep safe from them, and sine I fix computers for friend I am always getting calls while out and about as I put the home phone on divert to the mobile
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] dazaau:
TT6 crashing

How do you manage that?? I understood you had to either have your phone completely off or it would crash. I have tried it with a couple different GPS software programs on my XDA IIi (inc TT6) and it just crashes.

If you can tell me why yours works I would very much appreciate it,

Thanks,

Daniel
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] qiqo:
Hmm.. so i hope we could still make our alpines run wm6... or 7.. well really imposible for 7 though..
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] The Owl:
a hardware GPS NOT bluetooth and a good copy of TT6, I use the TT almost constantly purely as a camera dector (I am a ex Transport Manager so I don't need general directions normally only the last / local bit if going somewhere, but since I fix computers I am "On tap" to my customers all the time, and the home phone goes on call divert to my mobile when out and about, only thing I wish I had is a real / decent car mount got a silly plastic job at the moment.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] The Owl:
That wont ever happen
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] robsno:
TomTom 6 runs fine with a bluetooth GPS and making or taking calls on the phone does not affect it. Never had any problems. Running tomtom off an SD card, the card needs to be fast, mine is 150x. That may be your problem.

WM2003se is a darn site faster than WM 5 & 6, if you want to update the interface go to http://www.pointui.com/ to look at it and to http://forums.pointui.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=858 to download it if you like it. It will feel like you have a new machine.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] AlbertWT:
yes, I'd like to know if there is a way to upgrade WM 2003 SE to WM 5 if possible ?

after I read this post i began to doubt:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/10/06/477999.aspx
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jstott1070:
THE ANSWER IS NO, NO And NO AGAIN..

If you want WM5/6 buy a new unit.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] tangwd898:
never never ever.

only in the dream.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Y0Z:
Hello, i m a french new user and I want to know how to define my version of Wm on Qtek 2020i ( Hymalaya or Alpine ?), in order to upgrade WM3...

THX for u re help

Y0Z:)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] deedee:
As it says at the top of this pge of threads and all the way through this thread you can't put anything on your 2020i except WM2003.

There is No upgrade.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lightsord:
Dear All

i have that forgotten xda lli

i need to upgrade it into wm 2005 or 6.0

i have a question ...

we can upgrade it also to linux .. ?

or is there any linux mobile operating system..?

please i need your help and support

can anyone upload arabic rom for me on any server coz i bought it used

and i couldn't access through my "IMEI"

i think that he already registered it before and i couldn't contact with him anymore

can anybody help me..

my private e-mail is:

hassanho12@hotmail.com
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] deedee:
As is stated i this thread and others, "to infinity and beyond", the Alpine cannot be upgraded to anything axcept cooked versions of WM2003.

Apologies to any Toy Story fans out there.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] The Owl:
Why Oh Why cannot people READ and UNDERSTAND that the IIi cannot be upgraded. personally I am quite happy with 2003 its fast does its job runs TT6 for me what more do I need?

NOTHING
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] MrLeche:
dude i think not a soul in this world could ever program it. Cheer up!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lomo2002:
cooking a rom

hi guys,

As i read the post, many people say it is not possible to make a customized wm5 or wm6.1 for this wonderful PPC, but as i look the number of the people who visit Alpine threads are considerably low in compare to other PPC threads. So it means, here we do not have any experienced cooker, who has tried to cook a rom. So i think, everyone is waiting for HTC to release a rom-update, which is never gone happen. So my question is, is there anyone who has tried to cook any kind of rom?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] deedee:
I may well be wrong but All ROM cooking starts from a known working ROM for the PPC in question. If that is so the there is never going to be one for the Alpine.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lomo2002:
I have found a PPC with almost the same type of processor with WM5. here is the line;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/iPAQ-rw6815-Personal-Messenger-Bluetooth/dp/tech-data/B000LBDMQM

The processor is from the same family, specification are almost the same except this one is "PXA272 416 MHz" and Alpine has "PXA272 512 MHz". I think this shows that it is possible to run wm5 on Alpine. Now we need an expert in Rom field to guide us.:rolleyes:

I have also found the link for the Rom;

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...wEnvOID=2067&swLang=7&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=0 (German, norwegian...)

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...wEnvOID=2067&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=4&idx=0 (WWE)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jstott1070:
tell you what, why dont you download the roms, flash it and let us all know the results?..

I hope you work in construction cause you WILL make a brick!..

lets face it the XDA2i is a great gadget but its way past its development stages. I too really wish it were possible to upgrade them but its never to be. . I still keep mine running just for old time sake really but from day to day im a Kaiser man now.

Over n out...........
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] deedee:
My observation which has obviously been missed, despite being quoted is that ROM cooking starts from a known working ROM for the PPC in question, in this case an Alpine. As there is no WM5 ROM for the Alpine the cooking can't even begin.

Same processor does not equal same other hardware.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
so, steve, should I lock this thread at this point?

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Danny-B-:
If you read the last few posts ... we are not asking if WM2005 is available yet.

There are still some people asking this yes BUT 90% are fully aware that there is NOT a version out at the moment.

The possibility of a ROM being made for the XDAIIi is real (Although very unlikely) so let us live in hope.

If O2 or any other company who make the XDAIIi and devices of the same flavour, decide to release a ROM of WM2005 because we the customers harrass them enough, then i think its a job well done.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
;o)))

hope dies last!

if you'll loose your hope, you'll never reach your goal...

I just thought, that steve meant his post as last dot here...

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Danny-B-:
Hehe i have hope :) ya gotta !

My reply was to steve as i think he only saw the first few posts and not the latter ones.

You kinda snuck your post in when i was writting mine :P

If / When we do ever get WM2005 i hope we'll have people like yourself working on it too. Great work you do for the XDA2 device.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] cornelius:
Confused

actually i'm totally confused???

Here full email from their costumer representative :

Dear Cornelius,

Thank you for choosing O2!

With regard to your query below, please note that O2 Asia is always committed to bringing to market innovative mobile devices incorporating the latest technologies. This includes the newly released Windows Mobile 2005 platform. We will be introducing products in the near future that will capitalise on the power ful features of this operating system to deliver practical benefits to customers like yourself, and shall announce these products in due time over over the course of this year and the next.

There are no firm plans as yet to offer this particular upgrade to customers of existing Xda devices, but we are studying market demand for this platform, and we will certainly consider offering it in the future if there are sufficient requests for it from our customers. Hope the above information is useful for you. Thank you.

Warmest Regard,

Josherine Toh

O2 Technical Support

Asia Pacific Region

For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products information, please visit <http://www.seeo2.com/>

So, we are know there NO upgrade YET....

But also NOT WRONG if we send them message let they know if we want it.... Because they study market demand???

And hopefully people have tallent like you (Buzz) have a heart to help us... :?

That's all i think, i'm want to ask for apologize if my hope anoying you all..... i'm sorry........... :(
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Danny-B-:
Heres a quick online petition i put together

http://www.ipetitions.com/campaigns/WM2005-XDAIIi

Please sign up we'll see if we can get O2 to work on our device :)

@Admin if there's any problems with this at all, please contact me and ill remove it.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] cornelius:
Here we go

Danny-B-

Thanks for start.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] steverae:
Danny -B-

I did kinda get the drift of the thread from the first few posts thenkinda went off on one as i have seen the "Will WM5 be out for my phone" posts so many times.....

Appologies to anyone who took mt previous post the wrong way, I just had to explain the facts of how Himalaya got WM5 before anyone else....

anyway, i hope it does come out soon for alpine as they are a really cool device what with the built in wifi and all, they are like what the himalaya should have been... (really miss having wifi)

Good luck in your quest to get wm5.... i hope O2 come out for ya.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] burstin:
Petition

Danny-B let me congratulate you on starting this petition. I have been on a few other xda forums and there has been talk but no action. I have signed this petition and copied the link and pasted it on some of the other forums, hopefully we'll get a result from GREEDY O2. I have also written to O2 twice now and I'm trying to get an email address from them for their development team... surely someone at O2 must care!! We need to give them grief. I'd happily pay 40 or 50 pounds for this upgrade I think it looks great but I don't see why I should be expected to buy there new XDA Exec when they only sold me this XDA 2 months ago.... GITS!! I've told them I'm considering a move over to the HP Ipaq's at least they release software upgrades. I think if everyone emails them and tells them they're going to ditch the XDA devices they'll soon buck there ideas up!!

anyway... sorry about that... I'm pretty damn angry with O2
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Danny-B-:
Thanks for your support :)

Im just one of many XDA IIi users that feels the same way, we SHOULD have WM2005 its criminal not to upgrade us :P

Although i think it will still fall on deaf ears, as i have sent O2 an email already and have not had a reply, Suprise .... i think not.

Anyway .....

Petition stats

Signatures (First and Last Names)

Total number	252

Total number today	11

Total number within last week	67
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] burstin:
I read on an asian xda forum that O2 asia sent a letter saying that they will monitor the market to see if there is much interest.

I did get one reply from O2DataSupport@O2.com it read:

Good Morning,

Thankyou for your email,

It is highly unlikely that O2 will provide an upgrade to Windows Mobile 2005 for the XDAIIi (none of our previous XDA devices have had an operating system upgrade).

Windows Mobile 2005 will be the operating system on the XDA Exec when that is released later this year,

Please do not hesitate to contact us if further assistance is required,

Regards

Binder

O2 Data Support

Anyway lets hope your petition works :-)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] S1MB4D:
YES PLEASE

what i sthe point of us buying the "latest and greates" phones each time a new one comes out and then the companies in charge decide they will upgrade the older version just to annoy us! i say enuff is enuff they should upgrade all phones the same if it be xda1 or xda2i they should all get the same upgrades!

WHAT DO WE WANT?

WM 2005 ON XDA2I

WHEN DO WE WANT IT?

NOW!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
RE: WM2005 Campaign

Useful link, espcially for UK 02 Alpine owners

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=29013
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] BryantI:
WM2005

Hi On e-bay a guy is selling DVD's which he claims allows WM2005 to be instualed and works on XDAIIi's has any one tried it???
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
are you sure? I searched EBAY and they only sell the ones for XDA II and XDA IIs which are of course available free. :cry:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] BryantI:
Hi take a look at this link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-DVDs-14GB-P...813084498QQcategoryZ69927QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
it will probably work on the others but not the i
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] BryantI:
I have e-mail him to ask as if so I might buy. I will let you know the feedback
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] MaskedMarauder:
Cool, DVDs full of pirate and otherwise copied software, if M$ gets wind of it his ass will be grass!

lol at this, everything on his DVDs he has ripped off from elsewhere anyway!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
would be interesting to get his IP address and compare it with xdadev users... :o)

BTW it's pretty easy to get his IP...

buzz