yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] joshuajones:
Never had a problem here. I think there are Samsung specific otg cables just like there are Samsung mhl cables.
[HTC Droid DNA] _phoey:
Samsung specific stuff? That would explain my MHL problems with my Samsung cable.

Sent from my CarbonROM 4.3'd HTC DNA
[HTC One X] Eiad Ajam:
hi guys where can i found the hidden albums on my sd card ?

there is a lot private photos gone there :(
[HTC One X] treebill:
How did you hide them?
[HTC One X] Eiad Ajam:
in the htc gallery app there is a choice to display and hide u can choose
[HTC One X] desmond1303:
While in the Gallery, pres the menu button in the top, and choose show/hide albums...

If they are hidden they will be there.
[HTC One X] Eiad Ajam:
i did transfer all my storage to my pc and formated my hox

now i cant found them

my q was where are they on my storage :|
[HTC One X] desmond1303:
Well if you formatted the phone, logically, they are gone, so transfer them back using ether wi-fi or usb cable
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
Hi all! This is my new Project called [MENTION=880686]Paranoid[/MENTION] GE (GE means Gamer Edition)

I will update the thread soon!

Here's the ROM Development Status:

Working:

Audio

WiFi

RIL ( Calls, SMS and Data Working! ) GE is based on I9070P tee folder

Bluetooth (Works in Beta1)

Camera

Front Camera

Camera Led

GPS

Menu/Back Led Buttons

USB Mass Storage

Vibrator

CWM Recovery

Settings

MTP

Issues:

OMX -> Hardware Decoders/Encoders not working yet

Camera -> Video Recorder not working yet (depends on hardware acceleration)

Camera -> Panorama is laggy.

Bluetooth -> Bluetooth Share (HardCore Crash) (Beta2)

Installation

Download the both ROMs from the links below

Download gapps on http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip

Put the zip files on your SDCard

Reboot on Recovery

Wipe Data / Factory Reset

Select "Install the Zip from External Storage"

Choose PA.zip file

Choose PA GE.zip

Choose GApps zip file

Reboot to system

DOWNLOADS:

PA: http://d-h.st/r3W

PA GE: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnkwdbzzbx8l4rb/Janice_Paranoid 2.99 GE_beta1 (Gamer Edition).zip

Beta 2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4gryja6xkeez0e9/PA GE_Beta2_AmzingPerformance.zip
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
[DEV][ROM] ParanoidAndroid 2.99 GE [BETA 1]

Credits:

CM Team

Paranoid Team

[MENTION=5261186]Mr.xD97[/MENTION]

[MENTION=4990974]nlygamz[/MENTION] (For his port)

ARM (For the powerful GPU)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
[DEV][ROM] ParanoidAndroid 2.99 GE [BETA 1]

Changelog:

-Initial Release (InTest)

CPU Governor Tweaks:

Ondemand and the rest: Improved the behaviour of the Ondemand Governor

fixed 30% crt on effect

Disabled I/O stats:

Allows to consequnetly reduce Overhead

Incrased tweaks of the overall FPS and benchmark scores+incrase battery drain

Disabled Sleepers:

Saves battery by transforming some wait-times into sleep times

Sysctl improved performance a bit

Touchscreen tweaks

Hard Gameplay support

Real Game HQ Audio Drivers (Beats Audio+Beats in-ear Headphones)

Internet tweaks

Battery Tweaks

CPU+GPU Tuning:

Optimazed CPU and GPU Frequencies

Optimazed databases

VM tweaks

RAM Tweaks

GPU Rendering

HW tweaks

Improved Multi-Tasking

Vacuumed for boot performance

CFS Tweaks

Smoothness tweaks

I/O Tweaks

Incrased multitasking and general performance

-Beta_v1

CPU Governor Tweaks:

fixed 30% crt on effect

Incrased tweaks of the overall FPS and benchmark scores+incrase battery drain

Disabled Sleepers

Sysctl improved performance a bit

Touchscreen tweaks

Hard Gameplay support

Real Game HQ Audio Drivers (Beats Audio+Beats in-ear Headphones)

Internet tweaks

Battery Tweaks

CPU+GPU Tuning:

Optimazed CPU and GPU Frequencies

Optimazed databases

VM tweaks

RAM Tweaks

GPU Rendering

HW tweaks

Improved Multi-Tasking

Vacuumed for boot performance

CFS Tweaks

Smoothness tweaks

I/O Tweaks

Incrased multitasking and general performance

Sysctl: improved kernel stability during hard multitasking

VM sysctl Tweaks:

Dalvik improved for smooth and hard multitasking

IPv4 portocol tweaks

Wifi tweaks during online gameplay

Network multitask stability

Beta_v2

Improved System

vSynced

Engines updated

Fixed the NETWORK PROBLEM

New ARM MALI Drivers + amazing MOD

and some other small stuff!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
[DEV][ROM] ParanoidAndroid 2.99 GE [BETA 1]

Screenshots:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] AltamashAN:
Wow.ur amazing bro.I like all ur work.I will try this one soon too.since I'm testing latest cm10.1 nightly.

BTW are you working on this project only or going for another ones too?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
Thanks!

no i will open a lot of new projects ;)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
[MENTION=4990974]nlygamz[/MENTION] Lets ROLL
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] King ov Hell:
WTF ?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] rodaven:
Can do you post a bug list? :)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Miky500:
I test now or tomorrow OK? I will give after my feedback of ROM

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[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] d14gvn:
PA 2.99 is based on CM10??

EDIT: What happens if I don't wanna flash the GE file?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Jeroenvk94:
Yes it is

Verstuurd van mijn CTP818 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Miky500:
Warning: do not install this rom/update, cause loss of mobile network and loss of imei, to restore all installed JB again

Inviato dal mio GT-I9070 usando Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] d14gvn:
Wow!! why do you say that?

And if I just install the first PA 2.99 only? and not the PA-GE beta1? It is safe?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] sergmurtazin:
Aaaah, sh*t. Yeah, it`s real the mobile network not working. As regards Imei - don`t know..
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] #Henkate:
How are games with this rom?Like nfs most wanted,temple run,asphalt 8?
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
flash the GE and you will see ;)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] ManiacShri:
Jn
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] eduds:
The screenshots are broken.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Miky500:
Yes, don't save

Inviato dal mio GT-I9070 usando Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] xheon:
Whats with all these new roms based on still buggy CM builds :confused:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] shut_down:
Dev that made those did not update... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] wickypk:
installation guide

plz write a good installation guide.i installed rom and now after 10 mins still stucked on boot animation screen.i install the original rom and then without starting the system on same time installed GE then gapps.is this mathod wrong? and anyways Thanks for building Ge rom .:p
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] shut_down:
I think you just needed to do factory reset and wipe cache and dalvik.

Послато са GT-I9070 користећи Тапаталк 4
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Annasarp:
Yesterday I also faced the same issue. Tried wiping everything and factory reset, but no use. I think we have to do a full fresh install through Odin.

Guys any other suggestions.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
LMAO dude just put the I9070 tee files in the GE rom and you will be happy as ****!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
Flash Normal PA, wait it to boot and flash GE ;)
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
This ROM is based on OLD PA BUILD!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
:eek: the ROM is old based! Soon I will update it!:highfive:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
I will fix them now! :highfive:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
New beta is up!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Annasarp:
Hi

Which baseband you recommend?. Yesterday I installed over Indian firmware DDULP8 and faced Ril Issues. There was no network.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] shut_down:
Maybe factory reset will help.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] adamuadamu:
AFAIR the author of the ROM uses 9070P version so 9070 (non-NFC) users have to replace /system/lib/tee folder contents to have RIL working. if it's CM10 based, the CM10 files should work
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] Bulgaricus:
just download the beta 2 and you will have RIL again :good:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] GeoVali99:
Just to inform you.I looked at the changelog of BETA 2 and there says "vsynced".Our cyanogenmod hasn't got vsync because of incomplete sources,so,writing a script to supposedly enable vsync is useless.
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Android Development] zamurai x:
hello! this rom is very good! especially the version for games! but let development? an update would be great even if the core to film in HD :laugh:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] varun1989:
Hi, someone tampered with my phone and left a huge crack on front glass and a tiny crack on the back glass but its exactly on the camera. I cannot use my camera now, i even lost the micro usb port which left my phone useless. I took it to a service center they said it is not repairable and phone is out of warranty. They said they can get it repaired but asking﻿ for an whooping Rs 20.000 INR. I bought my phone recently for Rs 37,000 INR. Is there any way i can get it repaired for lesser price?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dsteppa:
There are plenty of people with a broken screen, check this topic:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2116920
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] -freedroid-:
The german website huaweiblog.de has another Firmware Leak for Huawei Ascend P6

Leak version: B114

There is no changelog but the text says this update is mostly for battery and energy management.

Source & DL:

http://www.huaweiblog.de/firmware/huawei-ascend-p6-firmware-leak-b114/
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] S34Qu4K3:
Will try it in 30 min after download finishes :)
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] robsup79:
Have you tried the new firmware?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] S34Qu4K3:
Yeah, for me, the battery life is really better with normal usage. Still testing it
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Tiru87:
Overall performance seems better. And root method 3 still works :P.

I just have problems now with cLock, its not getting loaded anymore. Will check later if i can find something.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] mkchan:
Huawei? thats fast..downloading..
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] BluntP6:
Yeah, very fast and good work, Huawei... But theres so many roms, i cant decide which i flash...

ps. Downloading and testing soon !
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] daryltanael:
what?! ive just updated to the official B111 firmware and now theres a new one?! huawei is fast :D
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] ml_taz:
It seems that Huawei is doing really good working for the P6.

And with Huaweiblog.de there is obviously a good source to get information and leaked firmwares! :D
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] BluntP6:
Flashed this yesterday and seems really good. I got Antutu Benchmark score 14600 without any tweaks and root, and its a bit better than chinese B116SP01 and B111 beta scores. No bugs spotted after little usage. I'll post more about battery life and others in next days :)
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] daryltanael:
How's the gaming performance of this B114 rom?! :highfive:
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] robsup79:
I've another question:

The upgrade from 111 to 114 will deletes all data files and app?

Do you recommend a backup?

Thanks
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] BluntP6:
Gaming perfomance is little bit better, compared to B111 beta. I think this rom had best perfomance atm.

Upgrade does NOT delete your apps etc. But for best experience and clean install i recommend to do factory reset after flash. That will erase your apps and data, so make a backup if you do so :)
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Beready:
ANyone knwo what the big changes are in this ROM, downloading wright now gonna install it later.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] adaimespechip:
I'm downloading this now - hopefully it'll flash over the top of 107 ok.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Starwarrior1981:
How's audio volume on this ROM?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] BluntP6:
Audio volume is great, specially with headphones. But it has been good on all roms... Why everybody is talking about bad audio volume? If i turn volume to 100% with headphones, my ears would die :eek:
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Starwarrior1981:
Well, when i bought my P6 it was on B106 software version and volume was all right. With B107 was slighty worst, but on B111 it's way too quiet... I'm on Chinese B116 now and volume is really loud...
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Beready:
Volume was good when I did my first update when I bought the phone ...

THis ROM I not see much changes, it seems to be faster but I never benchmark. I just feel and it does feel much smoother I think ...

My wifi bug is still there tough, I wonder this could be a hardware failure or something ? I hope I could fixed this bug with this ROM, I guess it didn't work...
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] hamish909:
I don't feel the battery lasts longer than B111, just feel it's about the same. How do you benchmark?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] mkchan:
Cant seem to extract the file got extract exception...tried to downlod twice still the same result..
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Starwarrior1981:
Had same problem, but copied file to my laptop, extracted there and copied back to my phone and installed without any further problems
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] casadorio:
Hi,

I have problem to make sync contact from facebook!

From google it´s OK

I had B107 with same problem now i am on B111 and the problem remain.

Do you have problem to sync, with this new rom B114?

Regards
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] extrem23:
Guys, my concern on if this new rom come with the storage option 'use sdcard as phone storage' as in chinese b116 which I think this is most important feature that missing in international rom.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] palooh81:
Just did a clean install, so far so good. Only bug i've noticed so far is WiFi drop outs, at least 5 times a day,never had this issue on b111 .
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] surdu_petru:
Hi!

Still using B111 and I can confirm WiFi issue (aleatory interruptions 3-4 times by day ) !
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] daryltanael:
I think the wifi drop outs happens because of the "wifi optimization" option in the wifi advanced settings. When i turned that off, i never encounter that issue anymore.

Also, if you havent already, make sure you set "always" in the keep wifi on during sleep setting.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] palooh81:
thanks, will give it a try
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] daryltanael:
just to share, i think the way this firmware captures hspa signals are less aggressive compared to b111 official. also, i noticed that this firmware more often uses lower processor clocks while in use compared to b111. those two factors might contribute more to a better battery life?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Beready:
Thx for the tip didn't knew that option was there and it could mybe help this bug out.

I just tried it and played around with it and it did drop out again ...

Huawei fix this problem from since I got my P6, I'm dealing with this problem.

No problems with data connection, it works fine.

But for in bed I use my wifi most of times.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] daryltanael:
Weird, u sure u also set "always" in the adv wifi settings?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Steve-Savalas:
I've just downloaded the B114 update but when I start the upgrade via settings > about phone > system update > local update, the update starts by powering off the phone as normal, upgrade starts but then I get FAIL in big letters. Anyone seen this before? I downloaded the firmware from the German site referenced earlier, unpacked ok on my PC and copied to /dload/UPDATE.APP on my SD card. Tried a couple of times, but just get FAIL. I updated to B107 & B111 ok. Only difference is I rooted the other day - would that cause the update to fail?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] davidfrog:
Are you to be disconnected from any USB source (PC, power...) before starting update ?

Envoyé depuis mon HUAWEI P6-U06 avec Tapatalk 4
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Steve-Savalas:
Yes, not connected to anything. Just running the upgrade from my SD card.....
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] davidfrog:
I'm surprise not to have this option after Updating ton 114... where is this option/how to activate ???

did you install the chinese one before ?

thanks
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] extrem23:
Yes, I did install the Chinese B116SP01 and the option is there. I reverted to B111 International after I was not able to sync with Google Contacts. I wish to see this option on international rom too.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] mkchan:
Wifi bug still there...dont know with other folks...no fix?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Ottomaani0:
Could anyone upload the HwMessage.apk from this ROM?

Thanks in advance :)
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] ml_taz:
The newest Leak B118 seems to be fix the WiFi problems.

http://www.huaweiblog.de/firmware/huawei-ascend-p6-firmware-leak-b118/

Thx to Huaweiblog.de
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] stuartggray:
B118 works very well for me. :good:
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Eagleman71:
Can someone upload the 118 on a filesharing?

The german one in downloading at 5kb/s .... gives me 10 hours to complete :confused:

Thank you!!
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] warea:
Same here. But I was thinking all this while it had something to do with some trouble on my wifi connection as I was staying in a different location for couple of weeks. And since im directly downloading from the mobile itself, I didn't know what the download speed was either. Androids in built "downloads" app should have atleast added feature to show the download speed. Uhh.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] stuartggray:
Try torrent - look for B118.update.app ;)
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Eagleman71:
tried in pirateb, google and in torrentz but didnt find it :crying:
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] alex.79:
In 4pda.ru has a link to torrent with a B118.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] warea:
Another download link here:http://huaweinews.com/2013/10/ascend-p6-b118-firmware-leaked/

---------- Post added at 08:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 PM ----------

Factory reset is recommended ? I dont want to install apps from google play all over again. But if it has real importance then id have to go the hard way. :confused:

And yes the wifi problem still exists. But the Huaweiblog.de only mentioned as improved wifi stability rather than solved fully. :confused: But battery does feel much better. Anyone tried games and benchmarking ?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] goce.nakov:
At me I think the battery is worse then B114. And no you don't need to restore factory reset, I don't know why people is recommending that.First the update is clearing cache and dalvik cache during installation, so with factory reset you will clear only data and you will delete your account nothing more. And second don't you think that Huawei wouldn't made that during installation process if it was A MUST to do factory reset?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] warea:
I havent tried B114. Moved from B111 to B118. Battery seems better.

I tried benchmarking Antutu, Quadrant for first time. Never tried it before. Either way, I got a pretty low score. Edit: or maybe not. The scores varying quite a lot on each try.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] davidez25:
hello. than the b111 over the battery to be improved, what else has changed?

Inviato dal mio HUAWEI P6-U06 con Tapatalk 2
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] warea:
The screen light randomly changing problem that existed B111 is fixed on B118 as far as i notice.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] warea:
See the latest comments on the huaweiblog.de regarding B118. They talk of factory reset solving the wifi issue. But they also talk of weaker battery and more warm. I can confirm the last, I do feel the phone gets warmer more quicker compared to B111. Also I feel this B118 is eating more RAM and multitasking not smooth, but ill have to check more on this
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Steve-Savalas:
Try downloading 'ES File Explorer' - when you download anything you get the option of default android download or ES File Explorer. ES File Explorer shows the download speed & estimated time to completion... Only realised when I tried to download B118. I was getting 44kb download initially, then got 194kb once a mirror site was set up.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] Eagleman71:
To me the 118, with the full reset, did slightly improve performance and battery is less hot. I pushed it with lot of apps and Real Racing 3 and didnt get hot as before.

Don't know about WiFi issue, To be honest I never bother if it was or not, I am using WiFi just few hours at home... i'll give it a look now,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] digital.criminal:
Phone: SGH-I337M Telus Model - Phone is couple of days old...

Ok here is how it started...

1-Motochopper root (worked great)

2-Installed Goldeneye ROM and wifi fix (which seemed to work at first)

3-Noticed data is not working (no lte logo, nothing, just wifi and phone calls working)

4-Checked APN settings (all good)

5-Tried different radio, No Luck

6-Tried 3 other ROMs, No Luck

7-Reflashed to stock July Samsung Telus Stock ROM with ODIN (no luck)

8-Wipe Data/Factory Reset (before next flash)

9-Reflashed to April Samsung Stock Telus ROM with ODIN

10-Tested data connection and APN settings (no luck)

11-Updated (with internal update) to July Stock Samsung Telus ROM with ODIN (no luck)

I cant get data to work no matter what I do. I am 2 weeks to late to return to the store and I am at wits end.

If anyone could assist I would be forever gracious and would even paypal you a beer/coffee... :good:

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jd1639:
You sure you've got the apn settings and radio correct? If so it's either a hardware problem or it's not on your end but an issue with the carrier. You've tried everything I would do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sharpehenry:
I believe some APN settings are case sensitive. Please check/confirm.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xBeerdroiDx:
and your IMEI/EFS are good?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bo8:
Verified APN settings to

Telus APN post?

If some settings are case sensitive, all but NAME setting are lower case.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] digital.criminal:
This worked... Thank you so much. ALL CAPS in the APN... Go Figure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bo8:
You're welcome! I only learnt of the case sensitivity through sharpehenry too! Will thank them after posting this :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Agent:
EDIT: I see that your issue was resolved and I didn't even read to the end! I was posting about your APN settings being case sensitive. I'm glad you got it figured out! Please share how to fix that with others!
[General Questions and Answers] harmal:
so i just read that google can remotely reset the password, but from the article below it's unclear weather they can also decrypt it. is there any way from blocking google from resetting, and possibly decrypting a phone?

boingboing.net/2013/05/12/apple-can-decrypt-iphones-for.html
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] twichibi:
Just done a backup for the first time and it got to about 95% and said that a sharing violation had occurred with an active sync file. I pressed skip but it said that the backup would be incomplete.

Do you think this would cause a problem when trying to restore? I don't need to try it yet
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] FOZZER:
I have the same problem. just try to close all aps and put the phone in flight mode, and try agin and it goes to 100%
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cruisin-thru:
Before starting xbackup, go to settings/system/memory and close everything down.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmedhzaki:
I was wondering if there's a quick way to turn word prediction on and off ? Like a shortcut or something or maybe a gesture ?