yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
huh! dont believe the seller.....by selling pirate cd's. i can get it here just cost 1.315 dollar which equal to 5 ringgit Malaysia.

if buzz say there got WM5 than I will believe.

Buzz...any news about WM5? dont mad at me if this question asked to you everyday. Waiting for WM5 makes me learn about patience......so....be patience :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
No, i don't have Alpine...

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] bxlogic:
Hey, i found something about alpine out here, but i can't understand a thing coz i think it's in THAI language :(

http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41988
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
Its just about the cooked WM2003SE ROM and loading a custom extended rom from SD card to extended ROM. Nothing about WM2005
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] defroster:
as i mentioned in another post I made, I'm currently bidding on an XDA IIi on eBay which is apparently running wm 5.0 - the auction ends quite soon but I can't bid anymore than $760 (about $500USD) - wish me luck!

Obviously, if I win, I'll dump the ROM and upload it here.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] defroster:
sorry, false alarm, I've been watching this auction for 4 days and asked him THREE times if he was SURE it was a IIi and not a II and each time he was certain.

Now, 4 hours before the auction ends - he says, "oh, I just asked someone and they said it actually is a II, not a IIi"

Pfff, damn idjits..
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
defroster, you dont deserve to win because everybody know...there's no WM5 for Alpine yet.....

meanwhile i want to ask something from the expert......what advantage and disadvantage for Alpine to having WM5.

thanks
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jacky820:
A stable phopne device and smooth outlook and pocket word, pocket excel....
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lamatao:
hey buzz, what if we all donate , and use the donation to buy XDA IIi, and then we would ship it to you, so you can cook WM5, I think thats a good idea :D
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
its much better if we donate direct to him....he deserve to do anything that he want to....he's talent person....
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lamatao:
it is up to him, anyway he wants
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
up to me?? :o)))

lamatao, pls check your PM.

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] skyman:
Hello I am a new member here. I have got a Qtek 2020i. I just voted to release WM5.0 .
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] lamatao:
anybody who wants to donate to buzz, pm him for more information ! :wink:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] levgeny:
Thx for your petitiions !

Do you have any updates about it ?

Thx,

Evgeny :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
RE Petition

I read somewhere else in the forum that the petition has now close, with 02 not replying (Not unusual the Customer Services can't answer intelligent questions, they're not allowed too!) when the petition was emailed to them.

:cry:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
O2 had announced there will no WM5 for XDA 2i. the petition is so important for us only not them....they dont care about it......

what we can do now is donate as much as we can so that anyone talent like buzz can done it..... we all know that he can and we also know that he dont have Alpine device yet! hope soon!!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
This post is null and void

** This post is null and void please see my posts further down**

**I donated to Buzz fund a while ago. I also posted on Buzz Alpine forum asking how he fund and others have asked was going, to date no answer from Buzz, so I wouldn't donate to Buzz Alpine Fund, until he confirms what is he current amount he has towards Alpine. As I'm not sure if he is using the donations for Alpine fund. :( **
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
** This post is null and void**

** This post is null and void please see my posts further down**

**I donated to Buzz fund a while ago. I also posted on Buzz Alpine forum asking how his Alpine fund was going, to date no answer from Buzz (Others have asked as well), so I wouldn't donate to Buzz Alpine Fund, until he confirms what is he current amount he has towards Alpine. :( **

DAz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
danny,

i think we should ask buzz once again....there's no official WM5 for XDA IIi and not everyone expert to do it, i still hope buzz can do it...

he still dont have Alpine device????
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
Hi all,

it is not that easy with Alpine... you cannot just take some other ROM (Hima) and adapt it to Alpine.

The ROM must be built from the scratch.

That's what i'm doing all the time. Trying to compile the ROM from the set of files.

It is not Alpine specific. Once this will be reality, we can do ROM for JAM, Alpine, etc...

The donation is at your own will. If you think, that i'm doing something good for you, then feel free to donate.

However i never collected that much donations to buy the Alpine. They don't sell it for 30 Euro.

So Daz999, if you want, i can send you you ** Euro back.

I hope i didn't force anyone to donate at buzzdev.

buzz

** sorry Daz, i cleared the amount from here.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
hi,

thanks buzz for that reply, im really2 happy to hear. At least other people should know building ROM is not easy like A B C. Anyway thanks very much, I still trust on you!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
RE: Alpine Buzz Fund

Hi Buzz,

Thanks for letting me know how the Alpine fund is going. Thats all I asked for in my original post on your forum. :( The reason I raised the issue is I have seen a few posts around about donating to the Alpine fund and in combination with your lack of reply and the many Internet frauds nowadays, I was concerned for anyone donating, not about my **** Euro donation. I don't have very much money myself so a public comment about my donation wasn't very nice, at least I have made the effort to donate unlike many who talk a good story but do not donate.

So to make things clear. I apologise if I caused you any offence with my comments. I appreciate all the effort you put in to your development work and will continue to support your exellent work. Thanks :D

DAz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: RE: Alpine Buzz Fund

Hi Daz,

i'm sorry as well, i didn't want to be offensive as well. I just said what i mean with my best intentions.

I cleared the amount in my previous post. So if you don't want it to be visible here, you can edit it in your post as well. However, all donations are visible on buzzdev as well.

THANX and sorry again

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] DAz999:
Thanks for your reply Buzz :D I'm glad everythings cool. :lol:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Baptist:
Xda11i Wk2005

I also contacted 02 for news of upgrade and they infered that money is the problem. I was told to contact 02 and ask about XDA Exec and guided to a blog writen by a microsoft engineer that infirs cost is the underlying factor and that a charge may be made. there was not a definitive NO 2005 for Xda11i. I am now trying to find out if it is actually available but at a cost.

Can anyone assist with an answering machine prog for 2i. Surely with auto answer facility in 2003 and 2i vioce recording some software should be able to answer incoming calls if not available and record to the phone. think of the money saved by not ringing your supplier for messages.

keep up the good work everyone

from a newbee
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
last night I dream about someone had release WM5 for Alpine and Im very happy upgrading my device, suddenly my mother was screaming.....i woke up and realize I'm dreaming..... what a nice2 dream.....

hahah! I cant believe that I dream about WM5.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
:o)))))
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] jacky820:
Funny. I sold my IIi already.... :twisted: :twisted:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
hahaha! dont you laugh at me hahahaha! i know is funny, every time i think about it, i will start laugh....hahahah....maybe one day, dream come true. hahahahahahah! buzz helpppp us!! hahahaha
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] rhuie:
Would it help anyone that I got the dell x50v wm5 upgrade cd? I believe the rom bin might be encrypted but it'll be a good starting ground to see what files differ between this and the xdaII wm5 beta. no ppc phone code on the x50v of course.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
buzz,

is that Himalaya device and Alpine device is totally different???? any help that can make WM5 for Alpine??? erm... Alpine also known as faster Himalaya (520 Mhz), 1.3mpix cam. but the cam is too bad.... :x
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
they have different CPUs so i would say they are different.

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] ralbrow:
If WM5 were to be released for the XDA2i, what benefits do you believe could be gained?

I too would like to see the upgrade, but I fear that if an unofficial version was to be made available then it would be highly likely that several of the XDA2i's features would not work without further tweaking. These tweaks would need to be resolved by highly skilled programmers.

I also understand that the WM5 upgrades which are available were leaked directly from Microsoft and are not the result of any individual 'cracking the code'.

In the absence of commitment from the mobile network providers to put their hands in their pockets to come up with an official release, It may be better to wait a year or two and then upgrade your phone, and possibly WM6 might even be out by then! :wink:

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[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
well, to be exact, 1.50f with 24Mb program memory was leaked from MS.

i'm not afraid to say, that I tweaked it pretty far, up to 1.60c, which has 128mb memory, 31mb storage, is much faster etc...

well, the 'base' is of course MS release.

on the other side, we are now able to build 80% of the OS ROM image ourselves... which opens some possibilities as well...

just the time to do it is missing at the moment.

;o)))

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
dont let the master talk. hahahaha anyway I agree with you buzz!

Yesterday I go to my friend shop and realize that IIi price now chasing IIs. not much different. I ask him why, he said "People want WM5 and IIi dont have it". I was thinking to sell my IIi but now I'm over thinking and is all about the money......money money! hahaha

anyway thanks very much buzz, I learn damn much from you.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] skyhorse:
I heard rumors that there are Alpine (xda's IIi) being sold on e-bay with the WM5 installed.

perhaps it would be interesting to investigate?

sky
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
got any direct link to the item????
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
is that any idea about making donation to buy an Alpine device so that we can give it to someone that can done WM5 for Alpine..... seem like buzz the one hehehe because he's master of WM5....at least he also can play with the Alpine.....

Im upset with Alpine device.... some said Xda IIi crap......and useless camera.... the quality of image make me ignore about having a camera....

thanks....
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] rhuie:
I don't trust that the ebay items listing is accurate. if wm5 is installed they are probably not referring to IIi.

That's been the case on one item i asked about.

Having said that i fell into the trap of buying the IIi from another buyer and expecting to see wm5 floating around.

at any rate. I'm trying to isolate some of the core files with the wm5 build that's out right now. Better off building our own romset than to hope for provider to make one.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
yeah.....everybody know that there's no WM5 for Alpine, even extended rom unlocker still not available for Alpine.....

let see the Final Draw World Cup 2006.....yeahhhhh!!!!!!! :D
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] j2innet:
you are hooked. they becoming evil..

dun u guys think that these is marketing strategy?

they are famous enough to ignore the "old bird"...

dun put too much hope on these, let it be. sad to say this.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
hmm, as i'm looking further into this thing, it looks to me, that if we don;t have proper IPL for XDA2i, we will not be able to create WM5 for it...

:o((

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
sorry buzz, seem like everybody showing toe at you. anyway you're the father of WM5..... God bless you!

* at BUZZ we trust....
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
hehe... i'm sure, i'm not... :o)))

but THANX :o)))

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] j2innet:
Re: you are hooked. they becoming evil..

buzz. i heard that u did a great job. keep up the good job.

in above quote, i meant the manufacturer. they will not let existing

user to upgrade their rom. business strategy to sell more phones come with wm5.

heard that not only taiwanese manufacturer is doing the pda now. korean company is actively create cool pda phone. dun let HTC dominate the pda market. otherwise, they will build upgrade constrains into ur PDAs.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Seahorse:
I noticed that you have an XDA IIi - I'm guessing your an O2 customer! What actually got my attention was:

O2 XDA IIi (Alpine)

ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE (01/27/05)

Radio version: 1.04.00

Protocol version: 1337.42

ExtROM version: 1.11.162

I re-flashed min usign the current ROM at the O2 site. which is 1.11.169 (Extended ROM).

My O2 XDA IIi Settings/Device Information/Version lists:

ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE

ROM Date: 01/27/05

Radio Version: 1.00.00

Protocal Version: 1337.39

ExtROM Version: 1.11.169 WWE

So why is your Protocol and Radio versions higher than mine? What are the differences, where did you get them, is it worth me bothering?

UPDATE:

OK, more reading found this thread which contains PUG's modified ROMs - 1.11.162 & Radio 1.04.

Applying this upgrade leaves my XDA IIi as:

ROM Version: 1.11.00 WWE

ROM Date: 01/27/05

Radio Version: 1.04.00

Protocal Version: 1337.42

ExtROM Version: 1.11.169 WWE

Which would appear to be the highest numbers available. I copied the Restore file from:

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\Old Profile Name

to:

C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Application Data\Microsoft\ActiveSync\Profiles\New Profile Name.

There were a couple of files listed at the end that would not install & skipping them seems to have cause no issues. The bonus is I don't have to faff around re-installing my programmes, ringtones & so on.

Hopefully this will help others to do the same. :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Seahorse:
Wifi Still works fine, but GPRS is as dead as a doornail. Tried using a CAB files I found that had O2 GPGRS settings. They settings have taken, but trying to connect to internet using it fails with the old check your setting dialogue.

Where am I going wrong...?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] demiseh:
you know...joinin forces2create the whole MAGNETO OS for Alpine is possible.team-work.divin it all around. on Buzz's site i read bout flashin the Jasjar over to the alpine. that didnt work2well, but did theoretically open up 1 tiny lil door. its possible. so hardware wise i think mayb they're not that much different? this needs sb 2take a look into.

---> ps: last post above - i got no answer why gprs is down.cant help on that one:)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] worksofart:
buzz...god bless you, wm2005 will be amazing on our Alpine...take your time , we trusth you
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] majdi:
after reasding all these replies to this thread, i was really surprised that it's not available yet.

the reason is that i already saw one of my friends and he has the alpine (imate pda2) and he has the wm5 on it, that was last october.

recently, another friend of mine who has an alpine also wanted to upgrade his to wm5, and he asked me to do it for him, that's why i came here to look for it (upon my first friend's advice, he told he got it from this forum).

i guess i have to go back to him and get a copy of it (it's gonna be a little hard since he lives a 1000km away from me), but i'll try to get it someway or another.

if i did get it, i'll try to post it here for eveyone to use it.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] nguyensonhm:
Hey,

i 'm waiting for your imformation and sharing here.

Good luck.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Joost39:
Any news on the WM 2005?? Just wondering...I´ve just bought a Qtek 2020i.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] majdi:
hi everyone,

i'm so sorry to put you all in hope, but i'm afraid i have bad news, after talking to (whom i used to call friend) and after he agreed to send me the ROM image on a cd, yesterday i called him & he simply replied with a big NO.

he said he saw my post here and he's simply not welling to share it with anyone else, and he refused to give it to me.

i'm sorry again guys, i depended on a useless person.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] wing93:
Actually，I don't think it is ur mistake and it is not necessary to say sorry.

He is free to make decision.

Also I believe that there must not be only one person who know how to make wm5 for alpine. And there must be another person who can make it also.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] pug:
To be honest I don't think he ever had WM5 on his Alpine. There are no CE rom editors, extended rom unlockers, etc for it so what makes you think think one person would have done it? These tools need to be made available before other OS can be installed.

If people like Buzz, Itsme and Bal666 can't figure it out then.....

That's my belief anyway.....
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] rhuie:
while fiddling around with the identification of the XDAIIi i found that the flash chip type was 28F256L18. google shows it's an intel flash (assuming i'm not mistaken by a similar model)

here's the specs

http://download.intel.com/design/flcomp/datashts/25190210.pdf

hopefully this will help someone. interesting info at appendix C "common flash interface"

I wish there was more meaningful documentation than this to actually reflash this darned XDA. <sigh>
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
yeah...

but himalaya has 128K3 chip.

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] JorgeGZC:
Hey any news about WM5 for the alpine?

Hey, any news about WM5 for the alpine?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
I think there'll no WM5 for Alpine......
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] viewedit:
is any thing being done for WM5

:( after going through all the mesgs, just one question, is any thing being done, is there any progress , i bought my xda IIi recently, thinking it can be upgraded.now i am regreting it, though i love it, i have already mailed o2 twice, second mail was a threatning one, i didnt get reply for that. they r lucky taiwan is far away from my country.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] KTamas:
Re: is any thing being done for WM5

Nothing so far. Unofficial WM5 verslons are only available for the Himalaya and Blue Angel devlces. There's no evidence that WM5 exists for Alpine either.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
hi Tamas,

do you actually have Alpine?

thanx

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] KTamas:
No :) I only have a Blue Angel.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] buzz_lightyear:
:o(

buzz
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
hope Linux will available soon for Alpine, no need to suffer waiting for WM5. Pray for it..... :D
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kkaalldd:
Hey, any news about WM5 for the Alpine :?:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] gnuzilla:
No way to see how many signatures for this petition. How could an O2 agent can see it to make the change :(
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] petest:
Just been reading a post about a wm5 upgrade for all orange devices

http://www.modaco.com/WM5_Update_for_ORANGE_Devices-t237035.html

Maybe this could help if the wm5 is released for the orange version of alpine
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] netwizz:
Orange Updates

i wasnt aware of an orange version of the alpine only the himalya, and blueangel, is there such a version, if so can someone tell me where to get the rom as i have now changed to their network and would like to get rid of the o2 crap and you orange software instead.

:D :D :D
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] fluffcat1:
Re: Orange Updates

They sell it as the m1500. Don't think there is a standalone rom update for it but Orange Switzerland had some updates a while back.

Richard
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Armarn:
:arrow: :?: ...no new news about WM5 on ALPINE? :roll:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
need Alpine device for donation to buzz. Then we will got news :D
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Frosty Sheep:
Ebay

I have seen copies of the Upgrade version of windows mobile 5 on ebay! Will they work with the Alpine??? if so im buying one :P:P:P

Thanks
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
Re: Ebay

best way to spend your money.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] wine2_98:
i'm blur

hi there,

i'm an new user on xda 2i.but i'm blur about alpine,himalaya n blue angel device.

currently i dl a wm5.0.but i cant upgrade to it.It show 'pls dl development tool b4 starting your upgrade.

how can i solve this problem?

thx for help.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] webpain:
Hey guys. I found:

XDAIIS WM5 ported from Wizard version 1.0 TuMa beta.rar

and

WM5 BA-TuMa v1.2.zip

on a site which stated that its for xda2s...

anyone heard of this?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] pug:
That's been around for a while now.

Must admit I'm not really that impressed with WM5. Just got a Universal and there are several things I don't like about it. The BT stack sucks, made my MS. It's slower than the 2i. No stability improvements. The Tomtom today plugin keeps dissappearing.

Might just need getting used to it???????
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] PReDiToR:
I was hoping that some of the other shipped ROMs would have fixes in them for the crap bluetooth and other little niggles that make WM5 a dubious "upgrade" from WM2K3SE.

The form factor of the Universal is way better than the Alpine, but the Alpine beats it on OS/software.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] courierdave:
Here is an e-mail from o2 UK

"Hi David

Thank you for your e-mail.

We have no plans to release an upgrade operating system to WM 2005 for the devices which are carrying PPC 2003 O/S.

It may be possible to download via a third party, but this will invalidate warranty and support will be minimised to best endeavours basis.

Sorry we cannot assist you further.

If you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards

Brian

Customer Technical Support

O2-UK"
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] wing93:
Please do not hesitate to contact us

WTF!!!
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
thats life i'm afraid ,they don't give a sh*t

although i've had tons of help from this website i might soon be upgrading to the mio 701 which i heard is a good peice of kit
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Server:
Let's give up. No WM 2005 for Alpine will be aviable.

Communicator is out of production and considered obsolete. So, soon will be no accu and further things be aviable.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] pythons:
Hello, any news about WM5 for the Alpine ?
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
i know this is your 1st post but plz plz read the thread first ,even if it just only the 1 above your post
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Uno Hu:
Is there a common understanding that there would be WM5 for the Alpine eventually but it is never gonna come from O2.....hopeful.
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] clustered:
It will be available for Alpine one day..... but dont know when :lol: :lol:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
thats why i am jumping off the band waggon as soon as i can afford the new mio701 ,it has everything i want in a pda and has wm5 :wink: :wink:
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] Uno Hu:
How about the HP Rw6828 or the Lenovoi921. Many newer choices available. Oh hope the WM5 will be available soon. If not the O2i is really an Old 2i....hehe
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] andy-c1:
it doen't have built in gps :(