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[Google Chromecast] bozzykid:
The SDK isn't final. And in this case the developer hacked around one of the most essential parts (the app whitelist). No offense, but I don't want Netflix, HBO, etc to pull their content off the Chromecast so Google can let hackers design apps to stream content from my phone in a non-standard way that was never intented. How about we all wait until the SDK is final before judging Google. All they did was fix a security hole in the device.
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
I agree.

I purchased the ChromeCast only for the purpose of wireless playing movies from my laptop to my HDTV. I currently use a HDMI cable, but thought wireless would be ideal.

I never use Netflix.

I never use Utube.

I wasted $35 plus shipping, because google refuses to allow me to use the hardware I purchased the way I want to.

It just arrived a few days ago, and I can root it.

But I don't think rooting it will help.

It's just a paperweight now.

Maybe I can return it to Google for a full refund?
[Google Chromecast] jptech:
Yeah, I just love DLNA support on my Roku3.
[Google Chromecast] robbo10:
I hope you sent this as feedback, very well put. The corporate device manufacture, including Google has benefited from free private development. A lot of the features that come on devices today started with the devs witch in turn busted sales from their innovation and put android where it is today.
[Google Chromecast] LoSt180:
I don't under stand what the problem was. I mean, I was just using AllCast to watch videos of my kids on the TV. I'm not willing to spend time to upload videos to YouTube just to do that (nevermind privacy concerns and the fact the world doesn't care about my kid doing backflips off the couch).

I already have an HTPC for media playback, there's only personal content on my phone.

This was probably disabled because it wasn't using the actual SDK and was more of a hack. Was neat while it lasted.
[Google Chromecast] raptir:
Yeah, I think that people really need to wait to panic until the SDK is final. If someone had made an app that used an exploit to get around the whitelist to stream internet radio I'm sure they would have done the same thing. There's a very good chance that there will be no issue with streaming local content as long as the developers go through the proper channels rather than using exploits.
[Google Chromecast] xenokc:
^Yeah, my bet this is about restricting 3rd party apps until they release the SDK, not specifically restricting streaming local content. Vplayer is already planning Chromecast support when SDK is officially released.
[Google Chromecast] mkhopper:
But if the device were meant to be open and rooted out of the box, then the big players like Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc, would never bother developing for it for fear of losing control of their content. So then we would have a device that plays local content and little else (at first) and ***** because Netflix doesn't work.

Flip a coin.
[Google Chromecast] mzanette:
From Google:
[Google Chromecast] eternal2u:
I Dont normally come on here and reply but this is just a dumb post.

Frankly a Chromecast that NEVER supports local media playback is not only a failure but more over just a fancy paperweight.

I Ordered one and wont order any more till my local library can play on it as well.

Hell tempted to just ditch it and pick up roku 3's which are ****ing retarded and let you play locally out of the box. The **** was google thinking
[Google Chromecast] TabGuy:
Stating opinion as fact is not the best way to gain cred.
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
I think the only way google can have any shred of credibility is to turn off chromecast access to YouTube and Netflix because "the sdk is not ready".

Obviously this is not the case, these apps work, just like the banned apps work.
[Google Chromecast] optikalsaint:
I don't think Google is trying to limit creativity. As a developer I can tell you first hand that when working with an SDK so young in its development that things will break constantly when the SDK is updated and approved upon. This is the exact reason why Google is not allowing developers to release their apps and prototypes for the platform. Once the SDK is more mature this will not be an issue at all
[Google Chromecast] jamosjamos:
Netflix is not the key to Chromecast success

I already have 6 or 8 devices that can stream Netflix, Amazon, Hulu(plus) to my TV. I don't think there will ever be a shortage of those. I really don't see streaming Netflix as the killer app here. I think Google needs to think long and hard about whether they really just want to sell another Netflix dongle or they want something special. Google already has a failure under their belt with the Nexus Q. If Chromecast turns out to be stripped down to just a Netflix (and a few other big name content providers) dongle, then they are not going to have much luck selling home entertainment devices after that.
[Google Chromecast] mercapdino:
Yeah. It never said it would but anybody with a brain saw the potential to do that.

As a matter of fact that had been one of the major potential appeals of it.
[Google Chromecast] bozzykid:
Google has already responded and said it has no problem with apps that stream local content. What they aren't going to allow is people to hack the Chromecast to use it in ways it is not designed. When the SDK is final, apps will be allowed to stream local content. But for now, no one is allowed to release a Chromecast app no matter what it streams.
[Google Chromecast] gottahavit:
And there's already 100+ devices that will play all your local content over dlna, and several android apps to use them to push mobile content. Honestly it adds more value for controlling netflix and youtube and tab casting than dlna since nothing else really does the former.

Again I'd like to see DLNA/local content working, however the WebM/VP8 solution to transcoding is a non-starter(needs too much CPU), so what we really need to push for is HLS support and improved wifi, rather than complaining because someone got around the Beta restrictions and got shut down for it.
[Google Chromecast] xterminater07:
I just got my chromecast like last week.. How do I find out my version number and how to prevent Google to automatically update my firmware? I want to retain all the nice feature like Fring and aircast. Thanks all..
[Google Chromecast] borijess:
Open up chromecast app and select the chromecast u have installed. Should show firmware at bottom. Probably by blocking it on your firewall. Find out what IP to block in your firewall settings.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ;)
[Google Chromecast] xterminater07:
mine shows 1.1.2... is that the app version or is that my firmware version? also what IP do I block from google?
[Google Chromecast] borijess:
App version. Press the chromecast u are using first.

Sent from the TermiNOTEr 2! ;)
[Google Chromecast] adrynalyne:
Koush complains, and so does everyone else, never once using their heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE5aDTszrY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Do some research, folks. All apps right now are for testing only. That means you request to have your receiver whitelisted. It also means that you must deal with changing APIs.

Koush exploited a hole to get around the need for whitelisted receivers. Google patched it. Big shocker. I am certain that when Google finishes the SDK, and developers don't exploit workarounds to bypass operating procedure, local streaming apps will work fine.

This isn't Burger King. This isn't AOSP. You don't get to have it your way.

That doesn't even make sense. It is a beta device and they secured a content provider for its launch to not only provide some usefulness to end users as things are finished, but to also entice other content providers. The rest are google applications. You think that Google needs to blacklist their own applications to be "fair"?

None of those content providers are streaming locally, so it is a moot point anyway. Chrome's streaming abilities are in beta, and currently suck. Welcome to cutting edge. If you aren't happy about it, you should have waited until things were out of beta and done your homework regarding the Chromecast and third party app support.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1E-vka5QP8LkF0nbfz-omN1DjNSX1uLGyqHdbpEFh6zg/viewform

This isn't a Nexus device. It is not designed to be cracked opened and modified. It is not meant to be rooted. And at this time, it is not meant for apps built on a

preview

SDK to allow for public consumption.
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
I don't know how to state the common sense, and obvious situation, to you, but I will try again.

If chromecast is in development such that nobody can write an app. And no matter how well apps work, they are not allowed to be used, because chromecast isn't "ready"......

Then it also isn't " ready " for Netflix, and it also isn't "ready " for YouTube.

Actually it isn't "ready" to be sold to the public.

Google should recall all units, provide a full refund because it isn't "ready" - better do that quickly before the FTC fines them.

It just isn't "ready", and it doesn't work.... Well, Fling worked, I think. And aircast worked. Maybe someone in high places is lying to us?

Fling is open source. Google can even examine the code, so why can't Fling be on the white list of approved chromecast apps? Answer seems to be that chromecast is "ready", but Google management is not "ready" to allow it.
[Google Chromecast] mzanette:
I have no idea what you're arguing here. Google shipped Chromecast and specifically told everyone that as of now, it will only work with 4 services - YouTube, Netflix, Google Play Music&Movies, Chrome Tab. Hell it even says so right on their website. If you don't like those 4 services that are being offered -- don't buy the Chromecast.

They also said that in the future there will be apps that are released for it. As of now the SDK isn't final so no apps can be released. This is plainly stated, so why should Google do anything else to appease you? If you buy something and are told what you are buying, it's your fault if it's not what you expected.
[Google Chromecast] adrynalyne:
Google releases things in beta all the time. Constantly. So knowing that if you bought it expecting it not to be beta, when they have stated it is, that is egg on your face, not mine.

Developers CAN write apps. Nothing is stopping you from whitelisting your receiver and building your own app for testing and development purposes They cannot distribute them until the SDK is final and those apps are using the finalized APIs. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I especially like this one. The Chromecast does what it is advertised to do, out of the box. They have fulfilled any legal obligation and therefore, your complaint would fall on deaf ears. You can definitely tell people in this thread are from the Now generation because they don't understand what patience is, and feel entitled to everything.

LET THEM FINISH THE SDK!

Then, if they block third party apps, I will join the picket line with you. As it stands right now, public distribution is usage is not allowed. Google said it from day one. Don't get your knickers in a twist because you never bothered to read that.

We aren't talking about Internet streaming content providers, we are talking about local streaming applications, and there are currently no third party ones. My theory is that Google probably has the Internet streaming portion finalized (they would have, to get Netflix and their own apps working for retail release). They are still working on the local streaming APIs.
[Google Chromecast] TabGuy:
God, what a whinefest.

I purchased ChromeCast on day 1 based upon what Google said it would do. You know what? It does EXACTLY what Google said it would do. Imagine that.

Others seemed to have purchased Chromecast on its potential. That's fine but don't whine that it doesn't do something YOU expected it to do but was disappointed when it didn't.
[Google Chromecast] scott14719:
Here is a response from Google...

http://rootzwiki.com/news/chromecast-update-breaks-allcast-google-says-oops-bad/

Hopefully this hasn't been posted yet, but honestly, there are way too many threads about this issue already to check through. To many Girl scouts crying about how they are going to bring their ChromeCasts back or not buy one at all (you probably weren't going to buy one anyway). Seriously people...grow up. It's worse than the locked bootloader threads with phones. If you don't want one, don't get one...nobody wants to hear about it.
[Google Chromecast] raptir:
Well, that at least confirms that the people saying Google doesn't want to support local content are wrong and those saying that they blocked it because the SDK isn't released yet are right.
[Google Chromecast] t00fan:
It still works.

Google has only blocked the back way of doing this. You can still stream local media via Chromecast. This is N*O*T broken. Please take a look a the post from this developer who has it currently working.

Google+ post by Cristian Medina

Thanks,

t00fan
[Google Chromecast] TabGuy:
Excellent point. Here's my analogy to what Google did.

I have a house. The back yard is enclosed by a fence with a gate. I never had a lock on the gate. That way the whitelisted people such as the gardener and the gopher exterminator could get in and do their work. One day an uninvited guest shows up in my back yard doing god knows what, looking into my windows. I had to put a lock on the gate.

Google just put a lock on their gate.
[Google Chromecast] jeebuspwnz:
the device will get more functionality after the licensing has been procured through the various channels and after it has been well-tested. I wish my chromecast did more too, but for the $11 I effectively paid for it, I'd say it is a hell of a deal
[Google Chromecast] cnotes2019:
How do you stream internet videos from online movie sites via a android phone? Not netflicks or YouTube. But like solarmovies etc. Thanks!
[Google Chromecast] xperiax10.awesome:
Dont panic guys, soon you will see some official google app to cast your local media contents on your TVs, chromecast has got potential n with such price tag its gonna be mass hit!! Give Google some space n time.
[Google Chromecast] jamosjamos:
But my point is not that Google has killed local content steaming. I agree with you that there are many devices that do that too. My Roku box steams local files from my computer (using Plex) quite nicely. My point is that Google seems to be intent on locking Chromecast down and controlling everything to steer users to revenue generating services. It's kind of like the apps available in the app store that cost a little money then need in app purchases to get much out of it.

I want an open device. I want something that does not have a whitelist. If Google is worried about customer experience, they could publish an "approved" list, but don't neuter the device right out of the gate. Let developers root the thing. Let anyone write to the SDK and stop trying to control what devs and consumers do with the product.

I hope Google wakes up and figures out how much more Chromecast is worth to them as an open device. They must know that though not a huge percentage of Android phone users root and run custom roms, the street cred and advances in the product from having such a creative and well connected developer community are a big part of the growth in popularity of the platform. If Google has any hope of being a big player in the home entertainment hardware (and service) arena, they need to allow the kind of open development and creative re-purposing that has gone on for phones and tablets to happen for products like Chromecast. I hope this happens, but it doesn't look like they are going to. We will see what happens.
[Google Chromecast] wideasleep1:
This echoes my sentiments as well. I believe we're once again witnessing Google fumble a complex play from special teams ala GTV, another opportunity lost. And perhaps for the same reasons: unwilling to push the staid media bullies, trying to play by their rules in a no-win gambit. Cord-cutting is nearly a mainstream hobby these days..and Google should be the go-to for play, both as a media leader (youtube, GMusic et al.) creator (like Netflix is doing with HoC/Arrested/OrangeBlack), and delivery (bandwidth/devices) and an entire ARMY of dedicated devs willing to achieve the segmented victories to get us the media the way we want it, not the way TPTB want. The recent 'speech' by Kevin Spacey suggests it's floating in everyone's minds, but waiting for leadership...Google should step up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ukYf_xvgc
[Google Chromecast] digitalmofo:
Yep, I'm counting on it eventually running XBMC.
[Google Chromecast] adrynalyne:
The minority is trying to speak for majority.

The average joe who buys the chromecast doesn't care about rooting it, or developing for it. Same goes for phone rooting community. The modding community is loudest one, but by far the minority of users.

1. It is not an open device.

2. The SDK is not finished.

3. The device is basically a working beta that does everything it was advertised to, straight out of the box. Additional features must wait until the SDK is done. Don't like it? Build a better device and show Google how it is done.

5. An open device isn't what will make Google a big player in home entertainment. An SDK could though,

once it is finished.

6. Want to get around the whitelist? Be patient and wait, or whitelist your receiver and build your own apps.

People would whine no matter what about the chromecast.

People ***** and complain when a device is delayed, and they ***** and complain when they get early access and it is not finished.

All these complaints of locking down have no validity until it happens after the SDK is finished.
[Google Chromecast] klbjr:
So the update only applies to the Chromecasts that hit the shelves now right? The ones that have been sitting in the stores unsold up to this point don't have the update I would assume or soon as I plug this thing up it will auto update itself?
[Google Chromecast] admin856:
Mine was shipped on August 23 and got updated when I plugged in the device.
[Google Chromecast] klbjr:
Thanks! I was gonna go buy one tomorrow. Had $25 in BB Reward points I was gonna use but don't want to waste it if I can't stream my own content. Guess I gotta keep searching for another cheap PS3. Best streaming device ever!
[Google Chromecast] admin856:
At the risk of stating the obvious, you can still play your local media using Chrome Tab. I've just installed Plex Server and it plays everything in the Chrome Tab (with subtitle support which is important to me and a lot of formats). I found it really good.
[Google Chromecast] timdawgdentist:
I really like mine... by the time all other apps are updated or whatever I will have finished watching everything on Netflix. I have time its cool. Only real fail they really did is not making it dual band capable. 5ghz would really beef it up bandwidth wise. I live in an are where basic internet is 40-50 down. Really would like to have been able to utilize that.
[Google Chromecast] klbjr:
So it's not wireless N? How can it support 1080p over just wireless G?
[Google Chromecast] LoSt180:
It supports wireless N, but only on the 2.4GHz band.
[Google Chromecast] klbjr:
Okay at your suggestion I just went out and bought one. If this doesn't work I will be laying all blame at your feet...LOL! :laugh: But seriously thanks for the heads up on Plex. Never heard about it before. Unpacking now. Bout to check out the Iron Man 3 blu ray rip. Question, is there a limit on size or bitrate when streaming local content?

Well that sucks! But what do you expect for 35 bucks.
[Google Chromecast] admin856:
Currently casting chrome tabs supports upto 720p only. You can play around with other settings by accessing hidden menu.
[Google Chromecast] The Project:
wait

Just wait people.

Obviously youtube and netflix arent the only things this device will be doing.

Wait until they perfect the SDK!
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
It is not obvious to me that Google will allow chromecast to do anything I consider desirable.

But Google store already has my money, so I might as well wait and see.

I have more confidence in developers to open up rooted chromecast devices than I have confidence google will eliminate the whitelist or allow general public apps.
[Google Chromecast] The Project:
They obviously created a 3rd party app SDK for a reason. Everyone needs to stop acting immature.

Even if we don't get more functionality. Its what we payed for. They never promised anything else so you have no right to complain.

That's like saying "I payed $1 for an ice cream cone but I was hoping I would get one for free."
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
Your analogy is inapplicable.

I ordered my chromecast directly from Google after reading of the successful apps to steam local media wireless from laptop or Android phone. Then, by the time the chromecast arrives, Google decides to purposely disable these apps on their device. Google forgot that it is no longer their device, because I own it now.

I use Netflix about as often as I shoot myself in the head.

I use YouTube about as often as I break a bone.

Google changed chromecast into a device which is currently useless to me.

P. S. I suspect articles about Koushik Dutta aircast / allcast sold more chromecasts than any advertising by Google.
[Google Chromecast] The Project:
Okay. For you its like this:

"Jimmy payed $1 for an icecream and got 2 even though the price for one is $. Even though he was there before me and got the test flavor. I deserve the same deal."
[Google Chromecast] bozzykid:
It was clear from the beginning that those apps would not be allowed until Google gave their permission. Even the developer said he hacked the whitelist to get around the requirement. It isn't Google's fault a few developers didn't wait and tried to push apps out their against their TOS.
[Google Chromecast] mbze430:
Man this sux. I ordered a Chromecast around the 20th of August... It finally came in today and now it won't even work with third party apps like Aircast. This totally blow chunks
[Google Chromecast] HowardZ:
Google is generating such good will among its consumers

:)
[Google Chromecast] The Project:
You're all being unreasonable. The device was only $35 and is still in beta stages.

Just wait.
[Google Chromecast] adrynalyne:
Asking unreasonable people to be reasonable is unreasonable.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] exstatica:
I have the hs850 and BT3900

I get static if i'm even just a little bit away from the phone. If i hold the phone up to my face then the static goes away. I don't want to feel like i'm talking into a tape recorder...

Anything i can do?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] swoopster:
make sure u are running the same bluetooth version as me. mine works fine.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] exstatica:
I'm using the same bt version,l the only difference is i'm using radio 1.13 insted of 12. I doubt that would cause a problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] i<3myphone:
Please. Someone, can you help me? I cannot NOT POWER the phone on. Holding down the power button for any amount of time does not work. Using the volume button in combination does not work. The battery had a full charge. All I did was take a picture and the screen flickered, then the phone went dead. I have warranty for it. I just want the data off of it before sending it in. How can I get the info from the phone to my computer? Is there a way? If you ask me the question, do I back it up with dropbox or something, I will say no. I just want my pictures transferred to my computer. Please tell me there is a way to do this. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] i<3myphone:
I should add that I cannot turn on the USB debugging feature on my phone. I feel so helpless.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mrgnex:
Maybe the omap flash works but I'm nog conpletely sure if it won't wipe any data . http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1925468