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[Ornate TrueSmart] Helgaiden:
Just finished doing that as a matter of fact. Ill see how things go from here. I did option 1 after running run.bat.
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
I can't wait to get mine it's in New Jersey and I live in Wisconsin so hopefully next week
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Ok so is this watch supposed to connect to Bluetooth? Sounds like a stupid question to ask, Because I've been trying to and I can't connect to mine at all and Idk why...can someone please help me

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What type of BT connection?
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Well how do I make phone calls from the watch? I thought having the watch paired to my phone would make that feature work etc. As of right now my watch is paired but I can't do anything functional on the watch

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You need a SIM in any of the x201's to make calls, TS included. Umeox builds the firmware and their BT is, well, broken. It's part of the reason why Kurt had to rewrite almost the entire companion app.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
That's just fantastic!! How can they make a product charge the $ that they do and not even the Bluetooth works properly? How sad is that? I'd I install his app will that help? How can I get that app on my watch?

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
That feature not working does kinda bite. For info on how to get Kurt's app, it in the [INFO] Everything sticky in the "Common Issues and Fixes & MISC" section. Still not sure if it will work as I have not personally tested that function yet.

I not going to go into the cost bit as every phone, except the my Nexus, has cost me about $600 every time.
[Ornate TrueSmart] fibroman:
Finally received my truesmart -- some questions

Hi. I finally received my truesmart and I think I installed the patch correctly, but some of the extra's that the patch should have don't seem to be showing up on my watch. I can't find the smart launcher, I still have the omate launcher after patch. also can't find Xposed architecture and flesky keyboard , but I am rooted and I have SuperSU and Swipestatusbar.

I also noticed a couple of issues. Quite often, when trying to swipe or type on the virtual keyboard, it moves or hits a key before I actually touch the screen.

I am hoping that there is a sensitivity adjustment somewhere in the settings that I am missing that would help with that.

Also, I wanted to open the battery case so that I can add my 16gb microsd card, but after trying the included screwdriver, I was only able to get one of the screws out with great difficulty. Is there any "trick to opening the battery cover "

I will continue to play around with it, but those are my observations so far.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
There are two options for the TS with the patch. Option one, "EnSec", does not install Smart Launcher or the other apps, Option two, "Operative", installs Smart Launcher and the additional apps.

Touchscreen sensitivity is an issue on all TS's. Clean off the screen and it should be fine until oils build up again. Then simply clean the screen again.
[Ornate TrueSmart] fibroman:
O.K. I installed the patch using option one. I have also tried to do it with option 2 and after hitting number 2, it just disappears and nothing happens after that, so it seems like option number two does not work for me for some reason. Would I have to go back to stock to get option two Operative to work once I have already done option number one?
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
I am pretty sure each version of the patch was designed to install only over stock. If so, then yes - you will need to return to stock in order to switch afterwards to option 2 from 1.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
What's the proper way to get Bluetooth connectivity from my phone to my watch so that way I can use apps on my watch? Is it through that companion app in the oStore and then have it installed on my phone to? I'm really upset that we can't receive and make calls on this watch without a SIM card in it, you'd think that would've been a normal feature. I mean I have that feature on my Google Glass.

Out of curiosity what are the benefits of rooting the TS and flashing Loki newest Rom with the patch? Any added features/functionality?

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] ewoks:
general impressions

What u think in general about device [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish? is it worth it 200++ $? What are pros&cons from your point of view and after all this time playing with it?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Hardware-wise I personally think it's solid. The software is a train wreck.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
And since there are so many variants of the hardware, all requiring slightly different ROM coding, it is difficult to create a unified rom to correct the train wreck. Add to that the lack of open source kernel drivers from Mediatek, and blob issues...development is troublesome even for devs experienced in working on MT devices, like Lokifish.

Still, I really enjoy mine. Just don't get it wet...
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
[MENTION=2377987]fibroman[/MENTION]

I've run the patch on top of a patched x201 with no issues. It will give a ton of "can't find" errors due to certain files having already been removed but it should work. After you run the patch, it does reset quickboot and adb so double check to make sure your x201 is set up correctly. Also try rebooting your PC as well

[MENTION=543747]MRFERRARI23[/MENTION]

The companion app and it's features are a BETA. BETA=not finished and not all things may work correctly. ALSO, BT is broken in a manner that is outside of Omate's control. Omate doesn't build the firmware, Umeox does. So until Umeox fixes it Omate can't update the TS with fully working firmware.

On top of that the TS is a BETA device. Most initial release KS devices are.

The benefits of the patch? Read the very first post of the patch release thread. It covers why it's stupid to not root or run the patch and a very long list of the benefits of the patch.

[MENTION=3171542]ewoks[/MENTION]

[MENTION=5550468]trent999[/MENTION]

Right now I have only found three PCB variants so far. A truly unified ROM is not impossible. The only real variance I've found is the kernel. The changes you would find in most "ROM's" is exactly what the Patch/MOD does. Unless there is a major change like stock to CM, most "ROM's" could be shrunk down to just the changes and done on your device while it's still on.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
[MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ishmarz If you don't mind can you link me to it please? Also I wanted to say, Omate upgraded my watch to the 1gb ram/8gb Rom but it doesn't seem to look like I have that much storage space even though it says I have that much on the casing it came in. I hope they didn't give me a lower spaced model.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
If it's more than 4gb, then it's the upgraded model. System uses space.

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The link is in my sig as well as the [INFO] Everything sticky (second post in this section)

You either have a 512/4 or a 1/8. There is no in between.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Well I original ordered the 1gb/4gb version but was upgraded from Omate to the 1gb/8gb but my phone's showing low available storage space nothing close to 8gb for apps etc which is weird

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
To make things a ton easier for me, please tell me how much space it is showing. There is an app storage area (1.27GB) and a second storage area.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
I see in storage in settings it says 1.27gb total space and in internal storage the phone storage says 1.27gb the same. That's all I see nothing else.

Sent from my HTCOneMax

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I was really excited and looking forward to getting this watch but after using it and not being able to connect it to Bluetooth or use it for phone calls I'm starting to see that is going to be useless for me. I mean I can't only depend on Wi-Fi to use it because I'm not always where there's Wi-Fi. So what use will this serve me? The watch overall looks awesome and I want to like it but with such limited functionality what am I to do?

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Flash the most recent firmware for your device, that might fix it.

As far as the other stuff...it's a beta device which means it's unfinished as are almost all KS devices, even the Pebble had a number of issues when it first came out.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Being that I only got it 2 days ago there's a return policy right if someone's not satisfied with it?

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Don't know. To be safe, don't flash the firmware and contact Omate directly. I don't remember the email off the top of my head but the somebody in the G+ would have it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
kickstarter@omate.com ?
[Ornate TrueSmart] CoolZoneAlex:
Is it normal for the Bluetooth and GPS to turn off by themselves when the screen enters standby? With the screen on, the PING function inside the companion app works fine, but as soon as it turns off, I get no PONG responses. Same thing with the GPS: if I get a lock and the screen turns off, the Truesmart needs to re-establish the lock. (OMATE Truesmart 4/512)
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
If you get a response can you let me know. I brought this to use as a companion watch not as a full on smartphone so if the bluetooth doesn't allow for this then I would like to know of I can get a refund before I try eBay.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Yeah I'm in the process of trying to figure out how to return it for my $ back. I love the watch, think it's pretty cool but if I can't use it as a companion to my phone or even make phone calls, then it's pointless to me. I thought at least I'd be able to Bluetooth tether it so I can use apps on it etc but I can't do it either and I'm not just going to use it only on Wi-Fi. I'm upset about it cause I finally got it and now I can't even use it and enjoy it the way I thought I was going to be able to.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Basically this watch only works and is functional if you're with T-Mobile or AT&T cause you can pop in a SIM. I'm on Sprint so it's useless to me cause I can't and can't Bluetooth tether anything or make calls from the watch which sucks because I really wanted to use this watch and couldn't wait to get it, now I'm selling it to someone. :(

Thanks [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish for your support and hard work and answering my questions.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
Sorry to see you go. I'm in the same boat I'm on Verizon. I'm going to wait it out for a little bit I just saw a rumor about the Samsung Galaxy Gear 2 price and it's as steep as the first Gear.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MexRex:
Out of box anybody having GPS not getting a fix?
[Ornate TrueSmart] aristokrat:
Did you wait for about 20 minutes?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Ornate TrueSmart] jamesarm97:
Ringtones / Sounds

I am new to android and have put some ringtones and notification sounds on the watch (media / audio folder). Where do I go to change notification and ringtones? I couldn't find anything in the settings.

- James
[Ornate TrueSmart] BPM:
https://www.google.at/search?q=set+...8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-set-music-as-a-ringtone-on-an-android-phone.html
[Ornate TrueSmart] jamesarm97:
Thanks for the links. I had already googled how to get the tones on and have done that. My main problem is I cannot find any "Sound" settings on the Truesmart. The Setup app is very basic. I have found the sound mode (ring / silent / vibrate and volume) but that is it.

---------- Post added at 04:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:20 PM ----------

It has been found. Audio profiles then you click the change settings icon. Thanks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Yeah trust me I don't want to but I feel if I hold on it and I'm not able to use it then what's the point? I think it was very stupid of them to leave Bluetooth tether out. So since I can't use it the way I had hoped its better to get rid of it while I still can.

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
I'm selling mine as well. Loki is leaving the development community so I took that as a sign. The Firmware needs to be fixed and the company that actually makes the watch won't release it. I'll wait until Google or some other company makes one or just root my Galaxy Gear.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Yeah if Loki is leaving then that's definitely a sign!!! That's sad and crazy that they won't release a fix...why do you think that is for? You think they have it already or they still have to make it? Where'd you read Loki is leaving?

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
I'm not feeling very positive about keeping my TS either. Loki's departure is a huge blow to the entire line of x201's. His involvement and backing was a huge part in my making the decision to purchase one of these watches.

It's a real enigma as to what the hell the Umeox technicians are doing!?!? THIS is the exact reason as to why Chinese products get such a poor reputation. It seems that their QT consists of "pushing the power button...if it turns on...ship it...and don't worry about support." I know this is harsh, but im not the only one with this perception.

The most frustrating and confusing part of this is, here Umeox has a eel known and respected dev willing to work for free in order to make

their

product better...not asking for anything in return...and they have totally failed to utilize and cultivate that relationship. Wha..Huh?

If Umeox was on Nasdaq...once the news of Loki's decision hit the news waves...their stock would be in freefall.

Instead, eBay and PayPal end up the real winners in this train wreck.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Agreed.

Also still waiting on mine. I don't know much about it yet, but I'll be learning and working as much as I can. Root tool seems like a simple thing so far, and I'll probably make it auto-install Loki's patch if I can. Then will get to work on a rom.

Sent using XDA-funded carrier pigeons
[Ornate TrueSmart] AndroidFileHost:
Still no way to control volume for music like if you use the google play music. The volume settings in the profile doesnt seem to control it. I found one app that gave me the option to have it very quite or max levels.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
What did you pay for? Sorry, but I paid for 1Gb/8Gb and if I don't get it I would feel justified on moaning- if folks paid for lower specs and get what they paid for- whose fault is that?

Wow- what's this I hear [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ishmarx is leaving the development of this device- I haven't tuned in to this forum for a while and if this is true- it is indeed a sad day.

I must say a big Thanks for what he has already done, though.

What has prompted this move, Loki?

I guess I don't really need to ask this.
[Ornate TrueSmart] crypticlama:
How do I get my money back. I'm tired of waiting.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
This is a development forum - as in, no transactions here.

If you want a refund for your watch you contact the person you bought it from.
[Ornate TrueSmart] lse4:
Where would be the best place to sell the watch?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
So I guess you missed the post before yours....?

Don't sell on eBay right now....there's like 8 different people selling their TSs. Just as I thought would happen!
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
I figured that. That's why I sold it so soon if omate does not get the firmware code a lot of people are going to sell theirs
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Looks like you might've been the "O" smart one...now, supply and demand is gonna cause these things to plummet! This whole thing is a such a
[Ornate TrueSmart] sm753:
Well that does it for me. This is NOT an "entitlement" post. Just a little disillusioned I guess. I've posted this before and I still feel the same. I like the TS. I really do. It's a fairly solid product but I'm just not finding any actual use for it because I don't feel like popping out the nanoSIM in my phone, putting in the microSIM adaptor, unscrewing the panel on the TS, putting the SIM card in, and screwing the panel back on, crossing my fingers and hoping data connectivity works. And then vice versa when I need to go back to my phone. Despite following several useful guides on the matter, I never did successfully get data to work on the TS. Even after painstakingly changing the APN to match exactly what I have on my phone (in which data works fine). Anyway, it's a super cumbersome process every time I want to use the TS for anything beyond sitting in my house where there's wifi. In its current state, I'm still preferring the Pebble over the TS, especially now with the 2.0 SDK "officially" released with the app store. I'm even considering getting a Steel.

Reading the forums, I know I'm actually one of the lucky few who have actually gotten their watches. The Pebble KS campaign wasn't perfect either but with Omate, it's clusterfk after clusterfk. Intentionally vague marketing-speak after another. Lies upon lies. Meanwhile we who backed the project get to see their "CEO" travel the world and attend trade shows on our dime when that same money could have gone to hire additional developers - instead of hiring a single unfortunate and hardworking German (Kurt). I understand the need for marketing and PR but when you already have a solid fanbase from your record shattering KS campaign...

To be honest, I'm a little disillusioned by Omate's bungling and this may be the last "wearable" project I back on KS.

No this isn't a "I want my money back" or "OMG I got ripped off!" Just disappointing because the TS had so much potential and promise and now as I'm typing this I look to my right and my TS is sitting on my desk collecting dust, the battery on it having died weeks ago and I never bothered to recharge it.

But even still...I holdout with a glimmer of hope that Omate won't completely screw us and fix their firmware and get their sh*t together.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I don't know what to tell you. I have working HSPA+ on two completely different carriers on two different TS's

As far as nobody getting their TS. The only people really posting are those with issues or are still waiting. The number of Patch DL's would indicate that a number of people have received their TS. Either that, or it's a couple people constantly downloading the same file over and over.

But oh well. My Gear probably has less use time than your TS at this point as glorified BT remotes are kinda stupid in my opinion.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Could [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish please shed light on the rumour that he is/ isn't giving up Development of the TS? Surely Omate must be keen to get you on the full time development team? Will you be continuing your splendid work for all TS owners benefit- and why on Earth do Omate only have 1 fully paid up working developer?
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
No budget - LLP has exhausted all profits due to first-class travel.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ronfurro:
Do a search on eBay, there are so many Omates being dumped. So sad to see.
[Ornate TrueSmart] misticjeff:
I kinda do and kinda don't understand the "bluetooth remote" analogy. My Gear is rooted, running null ROM and tethered on my wrist every day. Have full Google apps, etc and can do everything the TS can do except download at 3G speeds. I generally get 2+ days of battery life and run the custom kernel with both cores at 400Mhz min and 1200Mhz max, I receive full notifications for everything and really couldn't live without it.

I'm a TS backer and have received my watch, but until I can use in companion mode it's pretty much useless except as a watch.

Sent from the Starship Enterprise using my custom modded Tricorder.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
[MENTION=2176600]misticjeff[/MENTION]

What is the purpose of a dedicated companion device. It is to show notifications and remotely control another device. Just like a Logitech Harmony remote would. Remove the master device and you end up with a very limited device. And yes I have a Gear as well. Except for installing Null just so I could use the thing (don't own any Sammy phones), I played with it for a full day about a month ago. Haven't touched it since. It's slower than the TS, More susceptible to damage and extremely limited in it's standalone capabilities.

[MENTION=4593467]haybill[/MENTION]

Haven't touched any code since the the "so long" post. Don't intend to either until Mediatek gets there head out of their butts. They think their source so some super secret world changing thing when it's not.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jdommer:
I don't have a gear, so maybe that's why but I've managed to make my TS fairly useful as a companion. Of course I'm using wifi tethering a lot and relying on the ZeroLemon in my phone to make up the difference. And getting good at writing Tasker scripts to turn tethering on and off at the right times...

Of course, I just got my watch so haven't had time for the depression many on these boards seem to feel to have sunk in yet WRT the TrueSmart.

jd
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
Wifi tether? How does that work when your not in a wifi area
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
He means tethering the TS to the phone. The ZeroLemon is a high capacity battery, I believe.
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
I understand tethering, my question is the phone creating the wifi Hotspot or the TS
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
I would guess tethering the TS to the phone in this context.
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
Okay thanks
[Ornate TrueSmart] jdommer:
Yeah, my bad. I've got the phone set up to become a wifi hotspot. It tends to suck the battery down, so the giant brick attached to the back of it helps keep the phone going.

Everything would be much smoother if bluetooth tethering would just work, but the watch stays fairly up to date with the phone firing up the hotspot one minute out of every ten and continuously while I'm in the car. I'm still trying to figure out how to use the two together best while minimizing use of my data plan, so am taking suggestions.
[Ornate TrueSmart] sm753:
re: above

Wifi tethering to share your phone's data connection with the TS is incredibly battery intensive on your phone. I use BT tethering to share my phone's data connection with my tablet at work all the time, 8 hours later my phone still has 50%-60% battery left. Whereas wifi tether will not make it through 8 hours. Wifi tethering is not a "long term" solution imo.

I've never owned or tried Sony's smartwatch nor the Gear...how does it work with those? I think I've read that you can run apps on those too and make calls (at least from Sony's) as long as it's tethered to your phone.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
I can't believe I'm the only one who's gotten BT tethering working. It's not perfect, but it works.

Stand by for new topic sometime today.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What firmware do you have?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
I should note that it's not native tethering. I'm using your last archived update. It's 2/21, maybe?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
EU 2100 fixed sensors? Yeah you are going to need to go over what you have done int detail in a new thread. I haven'y had time to even look at the tether issue in detail and a possible fix you be gold for a lot of folks.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Bushrod:
Oh yeah! US 1900 1/8. New thread posted.
[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
Link please

Sent from my HTCOneMax
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678327
[Ornate TrueSmart] hus3695:
I thought you sold yours?