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[Ornate TrueSmart] Digital playworld:
Sorry, I think you are miss-understand me. At this point in time I have my TS stock as it arrived on Saturday, I connect to my pc and it is not recognised. So I have not installed any ROM's or customs ROM or anything, my PC doesnt recognise it.

I have downloaded your files which are "Imperium Operative v1.0.0 ROM - SPTools Version" and "AW-414 and TrueSmart Nov 30 2013"

Oh and incidentally, there was an OTA update last night so I did that but I cannot see what has changed and it is still not recognised
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What exactly are your trying to do?

Copy files to and from device?

(this requires you enable USB storage by selecting "USB connected" in notifications and selecting "Turn on USB Storage")

Flash ROM

Requires the steps in my previous post to be followed to the letter. v1.0.0 of the ROM is no longer current.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Digital playworld:
Initially yes I wanted to copy files to and from my device, however I do NOT get any notification to turn on USB storage on my TS when I connect it to my pc!

My plan was to then flash your ROM
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
OK. So if there's nothing in the notifications when you connect your TS to your PC then either the cable, dock or TS is defective. Start with a different cable, if that does not work then clean the contacts on the TS and dock with alcohol, if that does not work then contact Omate.

(sorry if it seemed like I was being condescending earlier. I've repaired thousands of phones over the years and it helps to make sure everybody is on the same page and has followed the same steps)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Digital playworld:
I appareciate you are trying to help.

I have tried 4 different usb cable and cleaned the contacts on the TS with alcohol but still the same result, I conmect my pc makes the noise and pops up with USB device not recognised and there is no notifications on the TS,

would you try doing a factory reset and see if that changes anything?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Win8 has not played nice with the TS for the reports I've seen so far. You can try a factory reset and see if that does anything.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Hey have you tried installing drivers and setting the compatibility mode for Windows 7?
[Ornate TrueSmart] vikemosabe:
Is there somewhere specific to get the plain-old windows drivers for it?

I know with phones and such you have to go to the OEM to download the USB drivers.

Mind you, I don't have mine, I'm just trying to help Digital Playground but wanted to understand the current situation as best as possible first.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
If he's just trying to transfer files he should not need to install anything, Only if he is using SPTools or ADB.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vikemosabe:
I thought he was trying to flash a ROM, not transfer files.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
He can't get it to recognize at all.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vikemosabe:
He said it shows up as can't install drivers so I was thinking if he could manually choose the right drivers it may work.

But I'm admittedly new to the Android ecosystem and have only flashed a few ROMs so my experience is limited.

I'm just tech-savvy so I thought I could give him a hand.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
When you connect an Android device to a computer one or two things should happen. You get a notification on the device asking if you want to enable USB Storage, you click yes and it shows up as a storage device. The other is it simply shows up.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
It should be recognized no matter what, but to transfer files he needs install the mtk drivers.

Also, try different usb ports.

Wait. Here's another question.... does anything pop up on the device as connected?

If so, click on the options menu under notifications and change the protocol from USB mass to MTP.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
For flashing he needs the drivers but should not need them for mass storage mode which is the default setup. He's also not getting any notification on the device either.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Make sure usbstore.ini is in the driverstore folder on your computer. Google for the file path, as I'm on my phone. I had this same problem recently on my win7 x64 machine. It magically deleted all the USB mass storage drivers for no reason and everything showed up as unknown device. If it isn't there, that may be your problem. It is actually still on your computer, but in another file, and needs to be copied to the driverstore location and the driver needs right clicked and updated in device manager.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Digital playworld:
I tried doing a factory reset and that has changed nothing. :(

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## I'm on a win 8 x64 so I will try that, thanks

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Actually thinking about it, I don't think it will be that because my pc see's other phones and tablets etc no problem
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Worth a look at least. When I found that solution, it was also affecting win8 machines. Also are they being seen as mass storage or something else? It would see my phone as a camera and let me move files, but not mass storage.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
If it's not being recognized at all because of this, it would explain why the device isn't picking up a connection either.

I haven't tried connecting it to my Win8 machine yet.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhdscript:
Need help

Hello,

I receive my TS Dev Edition and i have a problem: I want to use it as companion of my Galaxy S3. I pair the watch in bluetooth but i never receive any notifications.

I look in google for howto or guides but I don't find anything. Someone have the same issue and can help me ?

Regards
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
First thing you want to do is flash my custom firmware.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhdscript:
Hello loki, thanx for the reply,

I m doing the flash with your rom now but i have an understand (sorry for my bad english): what i need to install: ROM Edition (SPTools) v1.0.1 BETA or MOD Edition v1.0.0 BETA (v1.0.1 pending) ? Maybe both ?

Thanx for the time you use to answer me.

Regards
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
Is there any way to get the notification bar without using the swipe notification bar app?

No matter how I configure the touch area it affects things like search in the Google Play store which is in that section at the top of the screen.. I would also like to use Nova Launcher, but even with 'Swipe to pull down notifications' set up nothing happens, like it is disabled completely...

Appreciate the help if possible! Thanks!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
ROM Edition (SPTools) v1.0.1 BETA

At this time not really. Omate disabled notifications for pretty much everything but the OUI 1 launcher. Nothing seems to work unless the notification bar app is installed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhdscript:
Updating rom is on the way. After the installation, how can i set the TS to a compagnon (without inserting micro sd) for receiving calls, sms and notifications ?

Maybe a guide exist ?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The companion app is unfinished and does not work correctly so the TS cannot be fully used as a companion at this time.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhdscript:
So it s necessary to put a micro sim to have it work
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You will have to use it as a standalone so yes.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jhdscript:
osmart is not available for android ?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The companion app is unfinished and does not work correctly
[Ornate TrueSmart] Digital playworld:
Checked that and yes it is in there :(

Any other ideas?

Ive tried it on win 7 pc too today and that doesn't recognisine it either.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Just to clarify, since I see there is some confusion. I mentioned in my other reply about SLNotification in the latest Loki's ROM - I believe that's for app notification in standalone mode for apps hosted on TS. The Companion mode is something totally different, and based on BT tethering of your TS to your Smartphone where app notification from your smartphone are pushed to your TS smartwatch. That App is written by Kurt (https://plus.google.com/+KurtHuwig/posts#+KurtHuwig/posts) and it consists of 2 apps: one is the main Companion app hosted on your smartphone with functionality to push notification, and other one a Receiver app installed on TS smartwatch to display notification. It's still work in progress and I would consider it in alpha testing, not even public beta.

Furthermore, I have been in touch with Kurt and also I spoke to Adrian (creator of Augmented SmartWatch Pro app). I'm not sure if this will happen, but Adrian expressed his interest to make his Augmented app to be compatible with TS and even provided a link for a code to be compiled into the Receiver app in order for TS to be recognized by his Augmented app on your smartphone. As some of you might aware, Augmented is very well organized app to push ANY notification from your phone to supported smart devices. I will leave this up to developers to figure out what/how they want to implement it, since I'm just a middle person ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] DaveWoolly:
It's strange, I've noticed that the bar appears intermittently sometimes when transitioning between apps but then scrolls away again. So it's like it's there but being made to stay hidden. Is there no way at all to make it stay or become accessible from shortcuts like 'swipe down' with Nova launcher?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I have not found a way yet. The framework and systemUI will probably need to be redone. With as much stuff that needs to be done, they are better off releasing source and proactively working with the dev community.
[Ornate TrueSmart] wildcatbn:
Lets all hope they do.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I wish we had source. Seriously, a cm or aosp build would be so nice.

As for the driver issue, let me double check that tonight and return here to make sure I told you the right location.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] jaskru:
I pressed Laurent hard on this a month and a half ago. As soon as I saw their build I knew they were in need of some help.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
We all need to press them and encourage the community do the same.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mghtymse007:
Has anyone else seen this??? can you figure out what is wrong with this picture???

Simvalley AW-414.Go Smartwatch Omate Pebble Style Android 4.2 Smart Watch Phone

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Simvalley-A...891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20dcc97da3
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Probably the exclusive part.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What the !$&% is the 2.0 part again?
[Ornate TrueSmart] desztan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z48t1_29weg
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
That it says UK exclusive? It does have play store
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I'll need a tester with an unrooted device, if any exist. :)

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
You have me curious. What ya got Clear?

I'd love to get together with someone with a stock Standard edition as well.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Just need a tester to make sure one click rooting works as it's supposed to. Right now, it should in theory, but I don't have one yet to test it lol. Once I know what works and what doesn't, I'll start adding in other features.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
:( Out of the multiple full versions of the firmware I have, not one is a standard edition. Otherwise I'd help out (The Empress is sleeping so I have some time)

EDIT-

Were you going to add a hosts file to it or leave it root only? Hey! Here's an idea. Have the full patch be an option. It would make it two click but would allow for it to be community maintained.

EDIT2-

Except for maybe pushing out a deodexed developers base and making sure things stay updated, I think working with Omate on the firmware will probably take up a big chunk of my free time. So feel free to use any of my stuff you want. Same goes for any other devs that come along. Just remember to give credits.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Of course, and awesome. I always have a credits button. :) I was going to just root and install supersu, binary, and busybox, and have some other goodies in there as needed, like fastboot commands and such. Simplifying things, mostly. What would the hosts file consist of, just ota blocking?

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
BSDgeek_Jake has a well maintained hosts file. OTA blocking needs to have the OTA apps removed and the build.prop edited.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Ah, ok. If only for ad blocking, that'll be a separate button. It could all be one, but I personally don't use it, because it actually messes up some games, such as words with friends (or it used to). They'd have full page ads that then would fail to load and wouldn't be able to be exited. Has that been fixed, do you think?

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[Ornate TrueSmart] MRFERRARI23:
So just to be sure... This true smart watch will NOT work as a companion to our Android phones so we can can receive calls texts etc on the watch or will it? I've read the last few pages to try and keep up. As is, what can we do with this watch once we get it?

Thanks guys you're all great in here and deserve a major credit for all the work you're doing. Keep up the awesome work!!
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Yes, it can. If you're expecting everything to work day one you'll disappointed.

As it is, if it weren't for Loki's tweaks, you wouldn't get half of what was advertised because their coding team consists of script kiddos.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jolest:
(Face palm...)

We pay for development of a new device and firmware for specific functions listed on the KS page. We receive a rebranded product from another company and less than half of the extra bells and whistles...

Ignoring the rebranding issue. Imho, if they spent the money they used galloping all over the globe promoting a half finished product on good software engineers to deliver on the KS promises, the product would more than sell itself.
[Ornate TrueSmart] BJReplay:
Puts hand up...
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Are you willing to root? :)

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[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Actually, it might be wiser to see if we can get an unrooted build from him somehow.

Are you familiar with adbshell, new tester?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Actually, that might be possible, after what Loki found. A direct system pull may actually work... THEN I want a root tester. x)

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[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
I've sen that FCC "Grantee code" too

From here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/+LaurentLePen/albums/5954024819914042337?banner=pwa

I am editing this since I was not searching with the CORRECT search feature here you can find it INDEED:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GranteeSearch.cfm
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Well that's not good.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
Nevermind!

See here:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GranteeSearch.cfm

2ABF5
[Ornate TrueSmart] alabak2002:
On Google+, Daniel Ortiz posted some pictures that could indicate that the Truemate already passed the FCC tests, and approval is being granted really soon:

https://plus.google.com/111628072657804333818/posts/LFGBnTYwePs

In a selfish way, I wouldn' mind if the american version is delayed a couple weeks more, so my european version is shipped earlier ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] pkshr:
Well you have your wish. The one Daniel Ortiz has on his G+ post means nothing yet. The word is no FCC yet.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Actually it means a lot. It means it has passed certification but has not yet been approved the FCC. One the report is submitted then it literally is a matter of days.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
Yeah it looks like it was tested "locally" in Asia (based on the names and "LTD" in the stamp) this is common that 3rd party do the testing then FCC reviews and approves it.

Interesting though that it says issue date Dec 13, while the record from FCC is earlier (as seen in my post above).

Looks like "ANSI C63.4-2003" refers to:

"American National Standard for Methods of Measurement of Radio-Noise Emissions from Low-Voltage Electrical and Electronic Equipment in the Range of 9 kHz to 40 GHz"

http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/eameasurements.html

I would want to say that this is only ONE of many tests required...?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I have all the other testing documents. I just didn't feel like posting all 180 pages.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
Thanks for clarifying!

BTW since you seem to be informed, do you know if rooting is possible/supported for non-developer buyers?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
It should be, yes. A previously created exploit works with it, and I've already got a one-click root tool created. :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
I found this:

Here:

https://plus.google.com/111628072657804333818/posts/6u7XogHVXH4
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Yeah, that's a request, nothing more. It can be done, and be done easily.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
Yeah they got their differences figured out there, I was just curious how possible or not it was, I haven't had too many Android devices (that I've kept) so far.

THANKS! Waiting for my Omate here in the US still :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jarocks:
I doubt anything will happen until January.

Tapatalked from my Galaxy Note 8.0
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
You do realize January is so few hours away that you can count it in your head at this point no? ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Nah he's pretty much right.

Fixing the radio felt so good.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
Who is right about what?
[Ornate TrueSmart] alabak2002:
Problem is Januray still has 31 long days
[Ornate TrueSmart] Jarocks:
I'm just hoping my TS will arrive in time for my bday (in early Feb). Not sure if that's overly optimistic at this point.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ecsk2:
I am sure you will have it by you bday........if not 2014 then 2015 :D
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
He's right about January being a possibility now.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Is there a specific thread that you are posting links to your development of Omate, similar to [MENTION=2521422]lokif[/MENTION]ish? If so, could you post a link to that thread.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
When [MENTION=1478148]ClearD[/MENTION] starts a thread I'll add it to the Omate TrueSmart & Pearl AW-414/420 Compendium (which is in need of an update).
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Haven't started one yet, but I will when I get it tested and can guarantee it works as it's supposed to. :)
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Thanks Guys, eagerly awaiting the device to get cracking- I'm hoping we see them during January but am not holding my breath.
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Is this going to be part of 1.0.2 ROM update?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Loki 's working on the rom side right now, I'm just working on a root tool to streamline things. :)

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[Ornate TrueSmart] BJReplay:
Yep.

Yep.

However, I think I've got a non-functional USB connection - can't see the watch either powered on or off, tried on Win7 (x86), Win 8.1 (x64).

But, yes to both questions if I can get it working with a jury-rigged USB connection.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Shug69:
Have you disabled fastboot?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
Not fastboot as that could be confusing as it is different, they mean have you disabled quick boot in the settings. However you should see the watch when it is powered on and connected via USB.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Shug69:
Sorry - my bad.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Check your cradle's pins to make sure they're properly aligned.

Then press to make sure the battery is flush to them.

You also need to have the MTK adb drivers installed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] zarboov:
Lock Screen on the TS

He guys,

Hope I landed on the right place for this question:

I have an app that I want to set to be on the TS's lock screen.

Is it even possible?

AFAIK, I should make this as a widget, and add some flags (FLAG_SHOW_WHEN_LOCKED and FLAG_DISMISS_KEYGUARD).

Never did it (my first app on android) but I guess that even if everything goes well, I need now to set the widget to be on the lock screen.

Is that the same in the TS?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Requested a refund on mine. If it turns out to be everything we think it is, I'll re-order one. But for the time being, it isn't looking like the build quality is what I need.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Awwwwwwwweee
[Ornate TrueSmart] vectron:
Are you getting something else instead? or betting on new CES announcements?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Sad to hear it but understand. With my requirements being an at least splash proof 3G stand alone with decent performance or an Ubuntu4Android/UbuntuPhone that supports docks, my choices are really limited. If you come across something that looks good give us a heads up.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Absolutely will do. Just not sure yet, based on the bad things I've heard from people that have them, and the uncanny resemblance to the 414 and such, which are apparently junk. I need something I can repeatedly remove the battery and SD card from while still retaining function, but I've heard of a lot of people having major issues with that. :(

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[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Should I add "design smartwatch" to my to do list?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I have repeatedly taken mine apart with little problem other than a screw that I lost. These major issues appear to be either defects or people still talking about loss of water resistance.

I hope they're defects, anyway.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
I'm on the fence about this one, whether I should ask for a refund or not.

[MENTION=1337268]kuronosan[/MENTION], are you using yours as a standalone or tethered device? How do you find the battery on it, does it live up to the 100 hour expectation?
[Ornate TrueSmart] NachTSS:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4903664/20131222_005938.jpg

i dont know if you've seen that but thats not reasuring someone posted it and said it randomly fell off with no knocking it on anything or doing anything that would make it break.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The QC stuff can always be resolved as "will it turn on" and "is it put together" should always be on the list. All I can say is that I have not had any of the QC issues others are reporting.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Both, and yes. It is.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimlivingston:
I was going to ask for a refund and was very upset with everything I was reading. However, after investigating possible alternatives I determined none could be found for the $199 I spent. The AW-420 is more. The Pine is more. It just seems that for the cost, it really is the best out there. No?
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
That's where I'm stuck too.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
If you're on the fence about a pre-order, give it a while.

Personally even with all these problems there simply isn't a better device for the cost.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
[MENTION=1337268]kuronosan[/MENTION] how is the device in tether mode - for example, can you view emails or text messages fully on the watch, and respond to it?
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Not yet. The tethering app is still in beta.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Zuber:
I've put a refund request in and been told it has been accepted. Not the same as actually receiving a refund, lets see what happens...

What's annoying is that if we were seeing a much more pro-active and honest engagement by Omate on dealing with the issues/concerns people are having, I think many more people would even be willing to put up with the waterproof till you open it issue and QC issues.
[Ornate TrueSmart] tangcla:
How does it function in beta though?