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[Moto X Q&A] e-lu:
compatibility with theoretical future unlocked stock?

Question: Let's say in the future some brilliant dev-type finds a root & bootloader unlock exploit for the non-dev edition of the VZW Moto X. Would ROMs developed for that phone (the rooted/unlocked VZW stock Moto X) be compatible with the Dev Edition? Does anyone know how this has worked with previous Dev Editions?

I'm just wondering in the situation described above, whether the people who shelled out for Dev Edition early on could find themselves with a much smaller mod/dev community to draw upon than people who wait around for a potential (but maybe never coming) future unlock of the device. Would the two VZW versions of the Moto X (Dev and stock) be essentially the same device aside from bootloader, and therefore have compatibility?

I know this is all conjecture until we see an actual Dev Edition on VZW (which might not happen) but I'd be interested in thoughts.
[Moto X Q&A] jmill75:
Roms would work on both developer and regular version. One plus would be 32 GB . im hoping Verizon will get developer with the extra storage.
[Moto X Q&A] I Am Marino:
Well with current rumors pegging it at around $500+, I sense this phone failing commercially.

It's just too much money.

I get Moto wants this to be their "iPhone" but if you wanted to massively pull the rug out from under their feet, you would stick this thing's non contract price around the rumors for the 5C price, which is $300-$400.
[Moto X Q&A] Droyyd:
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[Moto X Q&A] Wing00w0:
Really no, I'm just waiting for the MotoX to come to Mexico(September 19) hehe the hope that make like at&t buy a card and get my MotoX like I want it
[Moto X Q&A] J.Guido85:
I am definitely interested in the Dev edition if it comes to Verizon. I just bought the HTC One on Verizon, But something about the X intrigues me. It it releases this week, Im 80% sure i will be selling my One and gett the X.
[Moto X Q&A] EggosEvo:
I'm hoping the white back with black front isn't the only color for the dev edition. I'd love an all black version if it doesn't get Moto maker. Id still buy the black and white one of the price is good enough.
[Moto X Q&A] BxVictor:
You might as well get an s4 or a htc one for 200 instead of this
[Moto X Q&A] KY Wildcats:
I swear I must be the only one dumb enough to actually use a HTC One after owning an S4. That phone is trash and does not deserve to be in the same sentence with the S4 let alone compared to a moto x
[Moto X Q&A] herzzreh:
Verizon... Verizon... CDMA should just die in this country and that will solve the issue of different versions if the phone.
[Moto X Q&A] omnius1:
surprised to hear this on XDA of all places. I'd ask why but I have a feeling the answer is something I won't be surprised to hear. :rolleyes:
[Moto X Q&A] BxVictor:
i do agree that the htc one is terrible but i do prefer sense over touch wiz even though i own an s4

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lmao the moto x is a mediocre phone. Why would you get a mediocre phone with ok specs when you can get an s4 or htc one for the same price (on 2 year contract)
[Moto X Q&A] eallan:
riiiiiiight.
[Moto X Q&A] SysAdmNj:
Because the moto x isnt about specs? And the moto x performance is still on par with the s4 I hear lol so..
[Moto X Q&A] BxVictor:
I realize the phone inst about specs but it still doesn't excel at everyday task like the s4 does and do i even need to talk about the camera
[Moto X Q&A] e-lu:
I wouldn't trust rumors of a $500 price for the dev edition. I assume it would cost the same as the phone off contract through the carriers: ~$600-650. Guaranteed to have limited market appeal -- present company excluded, of course.
[Moto X Q&A] SysAdmNj:
Maybe not your tasks, you must be launching rockets from your device lol. Not everyone needs those high end specs, and a dslr on their phone. Some prefer great battery life and a smooth "real" android experience, and I think thats the group of users this device is aimed at. I use the S4 and am waiting for the moto x google/dev edition :)
[Moto X Q&A] osi13:
What does it not excel in, other than sporting a somewhat lackluster camera, which, on paper looks pretty good. The GPU is better than the S4 and HTC One, as displayed by the GLBenchmark results, and the GPU is what delivers a smooth UX. While it should have been released a released a month or so ago, it still competes with Adreno 330 and Tegra 4. I'm almost sick of reading about it because there is so much misinformation.
[Moto X Q&A] jonnyg1097:
I am waiting for it, mostly for the price though since I would be buying it off contract and at Rogers it is 550. So hopefully they will even sell it in Canada but I have a feeling they wont since the S4 and HTC One aren't sold on the Canadian site.
[Moto X Q&A] e-lu:
The $550 one at Rogers is a 16 GB model,right? The Dev Edition teased by Motorola on their site is 32 GB. Wouldn't be surprised to see it $50-100 more expensive. Though, of course, I'd love to be wrong!!
[Moto X Q&A] lassiter1:
Lol @ must be launching rockets from your device
[Moto X Q&A] jonnyg1097:
Yea the Rogers model is only 16 GB. Is it only the 32 GB model though that they are advertising? I don't need more than 16 GB personally so if it is cheaper then I would be happy. But if the 32 GB ends up being only 50 dollars more than the 16 GB model then it would make me definitely consider the 32 GB model for sure.
[Moto X Q&A] e-lu:
I'm referring to the info on Motorola's "Ways to buy" page. (I don't have enough posts here to link to it, but every story from this weekend covering the Dev Edition links to it) There they talk about 32 GB Dev Ed. There could be other information out there somewhere about a 16 GB Dev or Google Experience edition, but I am not aware of it.

I also think all I'd need is 16 GB... though it'd be scary coming off my 32 GB GNex. I think if one were actually doing a lot of development and had multiple images and backups saved, they would appreciate the greater storage. Or if you have a ton of locally stored media.
[Moto X Q&A] jonnyg1097:
Oh I had no idea there was a page for that. I have been out of the loop with articles this past weekend and haven't caught up yet so I will look for it. Thanks!
[Moto X Q&A] beall49:
If it's the same price as the S4/One I can't really justify buying it.
[Moto X Q&A] lensgrabber:
I got to play with a X over the weekend and I'm just not a fan of those white fronts but the more I played with the phone the more I liked the white pattern on the back. Looking at the Dev Edition pics I will say that it looks pretty good. I'd rather not see DEVELOPER EDITION written on the back but I guess that's better than a AT&T logo. Glad they kept the front all black.
[Moto X Q&A] I Am Marino:
That's what I'm saying, this thing is absolutely dead in the water if it's anywhere near that price.
[Moto X Q&A] Hand76:
So nobody is bothered by the beautiful black front and all white back? I have a feeling this is a take it or leave it for the dev edition and I think it looks kinda dumb. It's going to look like you lost your back cover and just threw a different one on there.
[Moto X Q&A] lensgrabber:
I like the white back with that woven look. I do not like white on the front. I'm glad it's all black. I think in person it's going to look a lot better than in the photos.
[Moto X Q&A] dwd3885:
yea i bought the white phone and had no issues, however now I'm noticing small dirt getting on the sides of the phone. Doesn't seem appealing to me. I may have to eat the restocking and go for black.
[Moto X Q&A] e-lu:
Black on White is probably not the color motif I would have chosen, but it's not bad enough that it would make me not choose the phone if otherwise I would have.

Still, it's too bad Motomaker won't (I assume) be available for the Dev Edition, the whole DIY part of it is a pretty cool experiment.
[Moto X Q&A] Hand76:
Ok here is something I don't know, but does the back case of the phone come off? Can you change it?

Edit: Ahhh just looked at a pic and it doesn't really look like it.
[Moto X Q&A] Bill Idol:
I'm going to return my standard Moto X from Verizon when it arrives and purchase the Developer Edition. I realized it too late that this, the Dev Edition is what I will need to have an Unlocked boot loader. Looking at the pictures of the DE I kinda like the all black front and the white back. I kinda was hoping the DE logo would have been a black black color so that it stuck out luck a sore thumb. DE logo is pretty cool. I heard it was coming out in early September and an extra $100.00 bucks to purchase. $50.00 for the unlock boot loader, and $50.00 for the 32gb storage capacity. I'm in the same boat as most Verizon members, I have to pay full price to keep my unlimited data so might as well pay a little extra and get the Developer Edition. Oh yeah and to the color issue.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2

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Yeah I think the color of the Dev Edition is pretty nice. If you don't like the white back just get a back, black phone cover.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Moto X Q&A] jimmyco2008:
If someone can unlock the boot loader, we can save money and get Moto Maker...
[Moto X Q&A] Bill Idol:
Yup but I don't think anyone will. There will probably be a lot if attempts but I had a Droid X and I don't think anyone ever cracked the boot loader on that bad boy.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Moto X Q&A] jimmyco2008:
I had the Droid X as well.. That was a failure. But the RAZR M's (and other razrs) bootloader was cracked, I think there's hope.
[Moto X Q&A] ijustwantaname:
This is my dilemma, as well - I got the Moto X on Verizon day-1 and love it, but the locked bootloader is killing me. I'm seriously considering returning it and waiting for the dev edition, but I'm not thrilled at the notion of paying more simply for a feature on so many other phones (the storage is a non-issue for me). I'd also like to think that if the dev edition bootloader can be unlocked then it can be reverse-engineered to the non-dev version, but I realize that's potentially wishful thinking. C'mon Verizon, don't make this such a pain!
[Moto X Q&A] hijackerjack:
I think if the whole reverse engineering idea would've worked, it would've been done on other devices already lol

But its tough trying to wait this out. I'm pretty desperate to get a new phone and a few times I almost caved to get a GS4 off of swappa haha
[Moto X Q&A] jayboyyyy:
I am also curious to figure out how fast the android updates will be sent to each phone. We would hope that Moto would make the updates quick but having an unlocked bootloader would make me less worried about this. I don't want to pick up the verizon Moto x and then end up waiting months and months for the latest android software to be sent to me.
[Moto X Q&A] herzzreh:
Timeliness of updates is truly the only reservation I have about buying the AT&T version. Of course, ugly ass color scheme for the dev edition one is another whole issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jbaruch76:
So I bought a Nexus 7 first day they were available and was loving it. Then I started to see some colors coming through when the screen was supposed to be black and also noticed some light leak from the top right side. I returned it, but would like to get another one. I did a search and couldn't find anything, but has anyone else noticed these things? If not I will take another chance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] endingcolt007:
from the description it seems that you have a faulty display. i had the same problem of colors appearing on parts of the screen that were meant to be black on my note 1. it ended up being a faulty/broken display. so i suggest you should get a replacement piece.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jbaruch76:
thanks, gonna try and pick one up today.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoolApps:
Try going to safe mode by press and holding the power button which will take you to the power menu, press and hold power off option and then you will get a safe mode popup, press Ok and after a reboot check if the settings open.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osborn82:
I can get the settings to stay open in safe mode but still same problem when I restart it again...
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nakbaliNe:
Is there a way to copy all apk that we download to external sd card?
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] winny57:
Android assistant for you created backup
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nakbaliNe:
What is that?
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] openmatrix:
It's an app which helps to make backup of downloaded apps:)
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zabiap:
Use es file explorer....

It has an option to backup all the installed apks to a backup folder... U can define the backup folder...

Once u install es file explorer click on the app manager...then mark all the apps and click backup...

That's it...
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asm-xda:
I thought you might be interested to know that apk files are stored in this location: /data/app.

Notice you might need root in your device to copy files from there...

Regards.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _Manipulate:
I think I may have gotten the planets worst GS4.

In my experience android isnt supposed to be this bad until a year in or so.

So my gs4 has loads of trouble (sometimes) sending SMS/MMS. I use handscent and this is the first problem I've ever had wit hit. After a restart or two I usually regain the ablity to send messages. However this morning I restarted and was welcomed into safe mode. Restarted again and got back into normal android. Have there been other issues like this (I couldnt find any).

My gs4 is just generally sluggish recognizing icon selections, loading apps, switching screens, etc. Is it time for a reformat (week 3)?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solark:
Reflash your Rom with a full wipe.
[General Questions and Answers] dantegarza:
how can i install the coolz kernel in the NegaLite-BluRom Evo 3D rom??? pleeaseee helppp i need the 1800mhz overclock and the stok kernel of NegaLite-BluRom Evo 3D only reach 1500mhz.

or any kernel i can install to have 1800mhz and how do i install it or flash it?

tanks!!!!!!!!
[General Questions and Answers] Ashish9:
Alright, so I bought an OTG cable off of flipkart and when I tested on my phone, nothing happened.

I did that *#*#3646633#*#* thing and on the "usb>usb if test for otg driver" it said "Phone not support this module". So, this means the OTG cable was not worth the money, isn't it?

But,

Now, the question is how?
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
i have two questions

first is

1. for moonshine i need to have 3.14.531.11 (T-MOB) for it to work . How do i check which firmware i have ?

if moon shine is not possible with my version then

2. how do you figure out which RUU is the right one ive been googling the past 30 mins i couldnt find the answer

im trying to update my radio

are there any steps i have to do after i run the RUU.exe on my phone ?

do i have to relock first ?

all the info i have

One S (s4)

twrp 2.5

S-on

T-mobile US

CM10.2

kernel 3.4

Hboot 2.15

openDsp v31.1.0.45.0815

current raido :1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L

using the getvar method

i get this

(bootloader) product: vle

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8960

(bootloader) modelid: PJ4010000

(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__203

using fastboot getvar version-main

Version-main : ( BLANK)

there is nothing there
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
bump
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Go to settings, about phone. There you'd see software version.
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
ehhh im not talking about which android version i have ....
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
I ain't talking about that either.

In sense based ROM, SETTINGS - ABOUT - SOFTWARE INFORMATION - MORE - BUILD NUMBER.
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
im on CM10.2 :(
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Check for the OTA FILES in the dev section with your baseband version for TMOUS. That would be your firmaware. 3.14 or 3.16...
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
would moon shine work with my phone

lets say i just tried it

any chance of a brick ?

or will it only show error messages
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
It basically flashes a modified HBOOT, if anything is to go south, your phone goes with it so yes, IF it is to brick your phone, it will be pretty much bricked.

But your latest baseband and hboot indicates that you had updated your phone OTA, hence you have the firmware which they support.
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
so ur sure it wont brick my phone ?
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Best of luck. High probability it will be successful :good:
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
im reading the instructions

Fast boot disabled on your device (settings -> battery -> UNcheck “fast boot”

Correct firmware must be installed on your device.

i need to disable fast boot which i cant do on CM

and i need to be on 3.14.531.11 (T-MOB)

i found the firmware the mentioned

its here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2200930

the first link in the list

am i correct thus far ?
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Yes, if you haven't flashed any other firmware then you're good to go.

Fastboot is a feature of sense ROMs only. No need on CM.

The fastboot in hboot is a different thing.

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Configurations say so. Yours is the Final say.
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
ok i tried flashing OTA 3.14.531.11 TMOB

i locked the bootloader and tried to run the exe it gave me an error so i tried the Zip it gave me an error also (verify fail)

?
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Which recovery?
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
recovery ? why is that important its all done in the bootloader

i first tried TWRP 2.5 then stock recovery
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
If you have stock, then just select update from in stock recovery and select this OTA file.

By the way, i was of the view that you can directly use moonshine
[HTC One S] qwerty warrior:
ill try that and get back to you

turns out that i need to be on one of the 4 OTAs in order for moon shine to work

i cant be on CM while doing moonshine
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Alright :good:
[HTC One S] Serious_Beans:
How do you update the HBOOT when you're on CM 10.1?

I tried connecting my phone to my computer and running the latest RUU exe but it doesn't recognize my phone, does anyone have a flashable zip? Sorry to thread hijack but need a response and a fix asap.
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Try running the RUU with your phone connected in Fastboot mode.
[HTC One X] Martijn085:
Hello people,

I have some problems with the touch screen at CWM / TWRP and the Aroma intaller. In the ROM everything works fine.

I had the custom ROM ARHD installed and later replaced the custom ROM with the default HTC rom (RUU). Then the bootloader whas relocked again. Then i unlocked the bootloader again, installed CWR / TWRP but right now the touch is not working. (Installed the CWR touch).

Can someone help me out with this one?

I have alsow reistalled the firmware 1.39 again but nothing seems to work.
[HTC One X] Stefan0vic:
Flash this one :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2240646

Make sure you save your backups on your PC..
[HTC One X] Martijn085:
Thanks for your reply! Ik will try this one, will let you know if this one works.
[HTC One X] Martijn085:
Problem solved! I have installed TWRP 2.4.0.0 (JB) this one is working with the new firmware.
[HTC One X] Martijn085:
This one alsow works great! Thanks again :)
[HTC One X] Black_Wolf83:
I had the same problem. I just solved with TWRP 2.6.0.0 repack.

Glad you solved the problem of touch.

regards
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ExArkos:
Hi,

I installed blazing kernel v3 via Odin on the S2 G. Afterwards I updated Blazing Kernel to v12 using CWM.

Then I tried to install CM 10.1.2 and AOKP Milestone 2 on the device, but i couldn't start Android device afterwards.

In CM i got a loop while Boot animation and in AOKP I got stuck in the bootloader screen.

I don't know why this happens.

Maybe there is a hint, when I was rooting other S2 (non G) devices i saw yellow triangle in bootloader after flashing the kernel, on the G device there wasn't ever a triangle.

I hope this is the right section section for my problem, but if it isn't, please move this post to the right section.

Thx in advance
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] immortalneo:
Have you tried doing a full wipe when you get the bootloop? By full wipe, I meant wiping data, cache and dalvik cache, followed by fixing permissions.

"To err is human, to forgive is divine. "

Sent from my SGS II
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ExArkos:
Yes, off course. But nothing changed.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ExArkos:
Push this topic to the top!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] barlas:
hi its long time now that i hav been trying to get my xda iis working but no success. my xda iis is stuck in bootloader mode when i place it on cradel its display changes from serial to usb but my pc cant detect it. i hav tried all kind of roms but they say connection failed. i hav tried sd card method but getting update is not allowed section 1 error. will any one help me to sort this out. is there any other way to programmed the xda and make it working. i hav tried xda iis nb1 file downloaded from net but got sectoion 1 error. PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ help meee.

thanks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] clearwave1:
I had the same problem...

Yes, I had read all of wiki but could not find the solution for me. Then while I was reading some other posts I came across someone that said they had removed their battery and then held the hard reset sequence for over 1 minute and then replaced the battery. Since I was desperate I thought it couldn't hurt so I tried it.

Strangely enough, that was the solution!!!!

I'm now successfully upgraded!!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] hdubli:
Help

Since it is showing Bootloader ...the device is alive...WHat you hv to do is download the suitable ROM say UK or Asian for yr 2s and just Flash yr device...may be that help
[Android Themes] Reive:
WORK IN PROGRESS - NO DOWNLOADS
[Android Themes] Javier.D:
Can you post a video/gif of this bootanimation, thanks for tour work

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 usando Tapatalk 4
[Android Themes] Reive:
Added! :D
[Android Themes] ViViDboarder:
Wow. That looks really nice! Well done.
[Android Themes] propjockey:
Agreed. Looking forward to 1920x1080.
[Android Themes] alvinblank:
Can I request a square resolution with pure black background? Just like the original CM bootanimation.zip?

Preferably 720x720...
[Android Themes] NicoC72:
Can this also be resized to 540x960? Would love to have this in the native res for my Sensation.
[Android Themes] Shakes27:
Very clean, personally this fits cm better than the current boot animation. Eagerly waiting for 720x1280 :D

Sent from my GT-I9300
[Android Themes] Reive:
Try 800x1280 :good:
[Android Themes] propjockey:
Geez, I don't want to sound demanding, but I am really excited for more resolutions. Your animation is better than and should be the stock CM animation. It jives really nicely with the CM theme. Nice work!
[Android Themes] Reive:
I'm workin on an uniersal resolution version as the original CM bootanimation. :fingers-crossed:
[Android Themes] Reive:
Pure black is WIP, but square version not. It's not a square image man.

Next version is 500hx800w resolution, without lost original size of the graphics, for more compatibility.
[Android Themes] vicksz:
can I use this bootanimation to my MDPI device (480x320) ?

how to use it to my MDPI ? the screen res is 500x800 ..

please help me
[Android Themes] JovieBrett:
That's an eye-catching bootanimation! please make a size for MDPI devices :) it's 320x480 in size
[Android Themes] killoid:
plz make LDPI (240x320) version,this is so amazing! :good:
[Android Themes] Reive:
Download Zip file, put on your SD. With a filemanager open the zip, edit the

desc.txt

from:

500 800 30

to:

300 400 30

Set 300 to fit exactly!

:o

Same as up, but change to:

200 320 30

:good:
[Android Themes] JovieBrett:
Doesn't work. Ended in bootanimation not showing...