yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well that confirms it. Can you try on your N7? I'm gonna do mine if it ever dies. Lol. Going on 2.5days now with 40% left.
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Very pleased with my latest Moto X (have had 3 of them, still have two)

XT1058, not rooted, running stock 4.2.2 with camera OTA(no 4.4 for Rogers yet)

No wifi at all, auto screen brightness, reasonable LTE signal, phone switches to HSPA 5 to 10% of the time. Most of the screen on time was surfing or text messaging, some slingbox and youtube videos, listened to music for one to two hours.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well here are the results for my N7:

See. Something is up with the X.
[Moto X General] :
Cool. I haven't checked my n7 yet. But I know my t989 s2 doesn't deep sleep when charging, and never has. And that's not just me....that's everyone.

Strange.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
Might be because it's not on anything above 4.2. So not much of a fair comparison.
[Moto X General] :
My n7 is on 4.2.2 also. As I've said elsewhere....I hate kit Kat bars. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
I was talking the s2. But 4.4.2 is great. I've been getting much better battery life on it. Like near 9hrs screen on and 2days stand by..etc
[Moto X General] dray_jr:
Very very happy with my battery life from 9am to 4-5 the next day

Sent from Rooted Sprint Moto X, TWRP, enhanced kernel
[Moto X General] murso74:
What is this? Been on as long as I've been unplugged
[Moto X General] fury683:
Apparently it has something to do with the Qualcomm SoC determining if you're charging or not. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36736462&postcount=7049
[Moto X General] murso74:
thanks... doesn't explain why its on after i'm unplugged though.... can't figure out what else could be killing my battery
[Moto X General] :
[MENTION=2404483]ram130[/MENTION] and I were just testing...read 2 or 3 pages back....that's the process when the phone is charging.....I haven't seen it run when the phone is not charging tho. Are you sure that's not just there from when you charged? Gsam will tell you if you've been held awake that long, or cpu spy. I kinda think that's from when you charged....the stat is still showing tho.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] murso74:
yeah, if you look at the top this is the time from last unplugged.. was unplugged for 4 hours and 44 min, and that process was runnign for 4 hours and 9 min.

kit kat seems to be a mess right now... i just wiped my phone and started over because i was getting a constant drain and my phone was warm all day. now i'm getting this
[Moto X General] :
I'm pretty anti-kit Kat so far....So I've never had it on this phone.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] murso74:
i may go back to 4.2.2 between this and my bluetooth issues, i'm not a happy camper
[Moto X General] fury683:
I've seen that process before, but don't have it currently. I also have my GSAM set for stats since full charge, not last unplugged.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
29 hours with just over 3 hrs screen time running cm11 4.4.2 not bad imo

Sent on my Moto X
[Moto X General] dicarli:
Getting 1.5hrs screen on time on Kit Kat. What am I supposed to do to get this better?
[Moto X General] ram130:
:(...4.4 must be on its period.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
We need 4.4.2! Is the team still on holiday?
[Moto X General] ram130:
No they are back. I'm gonna hangout with one tomorrow and share my findings on the battery issues.

Thats why I wanted you guys that are getting great stand by drain to slowly enable some moto apps to see if you can detect when it begins to get worst. ..still have a long list. :\
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I still have all the main MotoX stuff enabled. I've been using app ops and disable services on my Nexus5 and I can't come close to this. The few jumps was me transferring files, only accounted for an extra 7% which is minor.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] ram130:
Where you mainly reading or something? I'll try the disabling thing in app ops but man what were you getting before disabling stuff? Lol.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Mostly reading while at work. I'm sure I can get ten hours SOT I just can't find time to do it. To be fair to the rest of you, I didn't do any video games or video watching so YMMV. Most of the screen time was reading doing more tweaks and minor stuff. Funny thing was up until now the N5 was the phone with the better battery, now I can't get the nexus to come close. Even worst, the MotoX doesn't even have a conservative governor like the Nexus5. If I could combine these phones I'd have the perfect device... Maybe the MotoX 2

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
A little off-topic over here, but I'm having an issue with the media volume on 4.4. Whenever I get an incoming call, the media volume gets muted which I assume is normal. If I reject the call, the media volume gets back to its original volume which I also assume is normal. But if I answer the call, after I hang up, it shows as if it went back to its original volume but when I go to Setting > Sounds > Volumes, it would still be muted and I have to increase it manually.

Is this a known bug in 4.4/Moto X or is it just me? I searched everywhere but I couldn't find any reference to this issue.

Thanks
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
That's incredibly off topic. I don't really care but I don't think you'll find an answer here. You might be better off starting a new thread. Sorry I couldn't be much help

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I tried here but no one answered. I thought I would post here because I know most users check/follow this thread. If someone replies, that would be great. If not, that's fine...
[Moto X General] ram130:
Thanks. Wouldn't you need root for the governor anyways? So what's the difference.

You must have been reading with white on black text.
[Moto X General] :
I don't have a single Motorola thing enabled, except active notification, and you know I run nothing...location or sync, I've froze everything I can.....and I still get like 0.9 percent drain on standby, even in airplane mode. In fact, airplane mode, or Wi-Fi on is no different really. I've seen some with much less standby drain....But not sure how. Lol

My daughter's galaxy tab 3 is at 22 hours, not used....and it lost 1 percent. It's at 99. My n7 can go days too. Not sure why I lose 1 percent an hour in airplane mode and all the debloating and greenifying.

But....I do get 24 hours average with 5 to 6 hours screen time. So not complaining much. But it could be even better with better standby time. :)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yep that's what I'm trying to work on and hope my thoughts with moto sync up. I got everything enabled and have 1-1.1%/hr drain. My N7 gets 0.3-0.4%/hr drain with 8hrs screen on.

Someone here has 0.3%/hr drain which is insane. Was testing with him on slowly enabling things but don't know what happen. :(

So I can't put a figure on what it is.

Well I'll hangout with moto today and see what their on to. Might not be able share much.

---------- Post added at 07:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 AM ----------

This is me. Lost a % checking.
[Moto X General] :
This might be better than my ROOTED and tweaked N7. It's a totally stock Tab 3 7"...unrooted, with tonnes of kids games on it...a bunch of apps loaded into memory, NOT in airplane mode. Amazing. Even tho it's very laggy, it's just my 5 year old daughter watching Netflix, movies and playing games on it. So going to leave it alone, cause the standby is incredible.

Wish my x could do this. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
Oh crap man!! I've never seen 0.1% before. Lol. 3% per day. What the hell did Samsung do. Lol. If my N7 could get that I'd be too happy.

I got two email accounts on both devices so that could be a extra 0.2...who knows. That tab shows what is possible on Android and how bad the X drain is.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I am rooted. All my phones are. As far as the text. The xda app and my e reader do this. Is there anyway I can do it on Firefox or AOSP browser. I've tried inverted rendering it just looks stupid lol. I might try to see what the cap is on screen time over the next day or two. Stay tuned.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] :
I just came from an S2...and I'd never use a Samsung device again. Got the tab just for my daughter, cause it was cheap and has a card slot so she can have tonnes of movies.

The tab 3 7" is unbelievably laggy and unbearable compared to my n7....But she loves it, so that's all that matters.

It's unrooted and has like 10 kids games that always seem to run, it has tonnes of Samsung bloat running too......But somehow the standby is unreal. Lol

We got it for her for Christmas. I opened it, charged it fully and put all her favorite games on it. Then it was hidden for 15 days, on, and it was 40 percent Christmas day...after 15 days.

Still....hate Samsung. :)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] rman18:
I did a factory reset and I am seeing much better screen on time... When I first received the phone I was getting 6 hours screen time on... that went to about 3:30 after the kit kat update and now I'm back to the 6 hours.

I reinstalled most of the same apps that I had and I keep location setting on along with GNow, GEL.

Only thing I am doing differently is I don't have any widgets besides the clock widget. Not sure if that makes a difference.
[Moto X General] :
Some widgets do. Not all. My wife and I use cozi for the synced calender and grocery list, and it's widgets gave my battery a beat down. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
Hate them for the software choices they make and support. But hate they make good enough cheap gifts that kids love. Lol.

A device so laggy gets good stand by drain. So weird but I believe it.

In Firefox beta there is a reader icon on pages with text. From it there is a black option for that optimized text. Not sure if your seeing that in the regular version.
[Moto X General] dicarli:
I've recalibrated the battery and it seems to be doing good till now. Got 62% in 12hrs. Let's see.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Finally talked with the team. They are on the right track and as I predicted 4.4.2 will fix some bugs and help battery life. It will be release after some approvals go through. So maybe a few weeks out. But this is good. It gives me a chance to tell them more of my findings or do more tests. And hopefully get the team to add a some more fixes to the final version. I didn't get to talk about everything because time ran short but hope to again next time.

I have a question though. What more would the built in battery stats have to tell you for you to use it more? Other than being detailed. I was thinking wakelocks and alerting me to apps that are using too much resources. :/

Keeping simple a little advance but enough for my mother to get am idea of.

I do want to test the odd battery calibration thing. But I'll do it on my phone first. If you saw your phone hanging on 1% too long or suddenly dropping a few % in the graph just let me know.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Thanks for the update!

Do u know if 4.4.2 will fix the bug which keeps the media volume muted after hanging up an answered call?
[Moto X General] ram130:
I haven't personally experience that bug or seen other reports from users. When you say muted. You mean whatever song or sound you were listening to is silenced?
[Moto X General] termleech:
Something similar to the basic gsam would be nice. So you can see wakelocks and details on Android OS would be nice too. It's awesome you have an ear with moto. It's great they listen to the community and will sit down with you.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
Both of the things you mentioned would be good. Wakelocks and draining apps or ones that use too much resources.

For now android OS/Kernel are highest on my list and dont really understand the breakdown or components that are responsible for my wakelocks.. I might have to start disabling stuff too!
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
I experienced battery reporting problems back on 4.2.2. To fix, i let the phone completely die and then charged it back up to 100% without turning it on. All the problems were resolved. If you look at some peoples screen shots, you will see 3-5% drops randomly throughout the day (especially after reboot which isn't all to out of the ordinary). The bigger issue you will see IMHO is that their phone will charge normally to 80% then the graph will show it went from 80 to 100 in seconds. basically instantly. My phone did this but after i drained and recharged it it started chargin up from 80 to 100% normally.

Not sure moto will want to do much with battery reporting. I was under the impression that google removed the ability to see wakelocks etc from 4.4 (for non-rooted users) because they were catching so much heat from people being able to see exactly how much of each service was causing problems. But if you could get them to add that in that would be pretty cool. Im just not thinking they want people to know what service is draining the battery so hard.

On another note, wakelocks show up for google services which causes everyone to get all up in arms. But those services are often getting enabled by other apps that use those services. If there were a way to separate this information then people could easier figure out which rogue app is calling on google services constantly to use. Or what exactly google is servicing when it holds my phone awake for dayyyyysss lol. just a thought.
[Moto X General] dsass600:
Can anyone here help me solve my battery woes? It was excellent up until a couple of days ago when the phone just started draining battery during standby ridiculously. I don't recall changing anything or installing any apps. I posted some screenshots here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2601873
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
That's right. This is what happens in details:

1. The phone rings, I see the media volume overlay on the screen showing the volume at the minimum (muted).

2. If I reject the call, I see the media volume overlay on the screen showing the volume back to its original intended position. If I check under Settings > Sound > Volumes, it would be back to its original intended position.

3. If I answer the call, after I hang up, I see the media volume overlay on the screen showing the volume back to its original intended position. But if I check under Settings > Sound > Volumes, it would still be at the minimum (muted) and I would have to increase it manually.

Would you be able to test this on ur phone?

Thanks
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
My rule of thumb is, if cyanogen supports it, it's an option. My S3 had cm on it since the third day I had it. I barely got 4G back then but it was worth it. Especially with those Zerolemon batteries. No sir Samsung is great with me (except radios). Touchwiz is the problem.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] tejaskary:
Here are results from today..Finally awesome idle battery !! Hardly used the phone, but the main complaint for me was that idle battery life was not great since 4.4 update... Here I am losing less than 1% per hour..

So the settings that I changed today:

1. In location settings, changed mode to device only from battery saver/high accuracy....This has a hugeee impact on battery life!! The downside is obviously no location based cards on Google now, like weather or traffic...I don't much care for them since my commute is 10 mins and I use a separate weather app with notifications about current temp..

2. Changed advanced wifi settings to turn WiFi off during sleep...I know its not the recommended setting, but WiFi at work doesn't behave well with this phone...Plus I have seen WiFi as top consumers of battery even if its on and not connected...

3. Turned location reporting and history off as well...Not sure why I need to give Google all my location history all the time..

I think doing #1 and #3 and rebooting had a massive impact on battery life...Android OS still shows at top of consumers, but idle battery drain is awesome again considering I am on Verizon LTE all day!!
[Moto X General] ravenspy57:
Need some help guys, my battery life has never been great ever since getting my motox about 3 weeks ago. I get 3 hours of screen time and 12 hours off charger before I need to plug-in again.

Here's the weird thing, even when i turn wifi off, the battery stats show it was on the entire day. Is this a bug with the battery meter or is my wifi draining my phone even when it's supposedly off?
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
There's a setting under Wi-Fi > Advanced which says Scanning always available. This lets Google's location service and other apps scan for networks, even when Wi-Fi is off.

This is what's probably showing that Wi-Fi was on even though you switched it off. You can un-tick this setting if u don't need it.
[Moto X General] ravenspy57:
Thanks for the help, that seemed to be the trick. Unfortunately, my phone still seems to be draining rather quickly, 3-4% an hour. I'm down to 89% after 2hours 20 minutes and 20 minutes of screen time. Very disappointed in this phone so far
[Moto X General] :
Use a dim screen...as low as is comfortable. Turn off location services completely. Turn off syncs. If you're rooted, use titanium backup to freeze Motorola stuff and Google stuff that you don't need. Get greenify, again, if your rooted...and hibernate unnecessary things from running.

Get Gsam to see what is actually draining your phone, instead of guessing. Gsam should point out exactly what is draining your phone.

Once you are happy with your battery life...then you can try turning stuff back on that you want....and if the battery suddenly sucks again...you'll know what caused it.

Without trying this stuff you'll have a hard time figuring out what's happening. This can happen on any phone...not just the Moto x.

From what I've seen, this phone is capable of some of the best battery life of any phone out there. Just need to keep battery draining apps/processes on check sometimes. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
While I agree with pretty much kj s whole post. I have most of the Motorola stuff working and my idle is great. Read through this thread, there are a lot of great ideas and some screenshots of recommended apps to freeze.

I always said if the droid Maxx worked on T-Mobile I would get one. I've been way past 48 hours, but I still wonder how long I could make that run. Either way I'm getting better life on the X than the N5 which I am probably selling now that I've fixed the drain.

The only thing MotoX needs now is better camera software.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] :
Yeah...I don't think the Motorola stuff hurts battery much. I freeze cause I don't use it...only use active notification.

Personally I think most battery issues, not all, but most, stem from location services/GPS and the apps that use it. Also screen brightness it's a biggie. Auto brightness runs very high in well lit areas...tooo high. Setting manually or using something like lux helps allot.

In could be wrong...But most guys that have battery problems seem to not want to give up location services....and their battery problems continue.

Too much syncing is another one.

;)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] jco23:
do you have root?

also, in the FWIW department, I regret not leaving "location history" on in my prior device, as it was stolen. had I left it on, then I would have recovered my phone by now.

as for me, I leave everything on all the time (bluetooth, wifi, mobile data, location history, touchless control), and I get great battery life - and I'm a stickler for battery stats. my goal is to get at least 3 hours of on-screen time within a 24 hour period, and I get that with this device.

the only thing I turn off is GPS (have location set to "battery saving"), but everything else autosyncs. the key is that this phone should know how to sleep. what keeps it awake are not just push notifications, but applications that also run in the background that do not need to be (hence the greatness of the Greenify app, which is only available for root).
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Again I agree with everything you said except push. I have everything set to push and my idle is fine. In my experience with app ops and disable services way too many unnecessary apps request location access and also have the ability to keep awake. As far as I'm concerned the only thing time my phone should be awake is via actions I create ie. Play music, videos, titanium backup etc.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] ravenspy57:
Thanks for the advice, I downloaded Gsam to help locate what's running down my phone. I'd like to avoid having to root it if possible..

How do I turn off or slow down synching across all apps? I've tried turning off location services entirely and it didn't quite seem to help much, my drain rate was still about the same.

Also when I'm at 1% - I can watch a video on netflix for another 40 minutes before it shuts off. Maybe this is part of the issue?
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
Can you make a list with services that request "keep awake" and you have disabled with app ops?

---------- Post added at 06:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:07 PM ----------

Any feedback?
[Moto X General] termleech:
The snapdragon app didn't seem to do anything but drive up my Android OS. So I'd say it didn't do anything.
[Moto X General] :
I tried it on my s2 once....after several hours it had store my phone hundreds of times. Not for long periods, but still. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone.....
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I disabled every app that has no business keeping my phone awake, so almost all of them. It didn't seem to stop apps from working, it just doesn't allow them to keep the phone active when they are done.

As far as making a list when you use the apps you will see how complicated of a task that would be and why I haven't done so yet. You literally have to click each app individually. If I find the time I might, but I can't promise that.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] bsinc1962:
So I see that Google has updated Google Play Services and it's supposed to help with battery life when using location based services.

Here is the link to the story on Android Police:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...player-new-google-drive-api-preview-and-more/

I just installed it and turned all my location based stuff back on, hopefully it's gets us back to 4.2 level battery life but it will probably take a cycle or two to see.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Sorry I haven't kept up with this thread the last few days.. Someone mentioned a few pages back that they installed the SnapDragon Battery Guru. What were your results with that? After my wakelock issue was solved, I removed Greenify and ran wild for a few days and it seemed stable. I put Battery Guru on and let it do it's thing to learn my habits and such for about 2 days. Yesterday was the first full day with it running (after learning mode) and it seemed to work well. I had just over 3 hours of SoT and still had 20% left after about 17 hours off charger.

I didn't get any screenshots because I was dead tired and had to crash. I'll probably be up later tonight (weekend, no work tomorrow), so I'll be using my phone and probably running it down. I'll be sure to grab some screenshots from GSAM before bed.

Has anyone else had success with BatteryGuru?
[Moto X General] atoy74:
Everyone, keep an eye out for this. This seems to be the culprit regarding awake time.