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[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
it looks like something went weird for you because one of your three google play services rebooted at some point because it has only been on for 5 minutes. Not sure if that is normal but all three of mine stay at the same up time all the time.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Will get GSAM loaded up asap.

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Battery currently at 19%. SOT at 1h 55m.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Let it die...,charge while off. Keep charging while off.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Battery now at 2% with SOT of 2h 28m. I've installed G Sam and will keep it running once I fully charge it up then will post a screenshot when it gets to below 10%.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
Great instructions. Yeah I saw HTC and was like umm what haha But fast reboot in settings? Where is this option located? Never knew this even existed.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Hit the Power button the phone reboots immediately
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
I would seriously consider ditching the Facebook app. It's garbage. Look at how much RAM it's taking while running. 49 MB? Seriously Facebook? They can never optimize this app and I believe it's a major cause in system slow downs and battery drain.

Just use Facebook on the mobile browser. Your phone will thank you.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
49MB is nothing given the fact that the Moto X has 2GB of RAM... It's just 2.45%...

You wouldn't get notifications if u just use FB on the browser...
[Moto X General] ram130:
I know right. Facebook is not an offender. It uses GCM so it's much better. Also check out Chrome RAM usage. Lol.

- Ram
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
Eh, to each his own. I could care less about push notifications from FB. But those permissions is something I can't get over. It's like a mile long list.
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Some snapshots post optimization. (Details provided here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52455944 )

Sent from my XT1052
[Moto X General] jp1044:
I know you mentioned page 248, but I can't seem to find anything about what you did to optimize, I may be blind but who knows ;). If you could elaborate on what you did that would be great because that is INSANE battery life lol.
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Sorry. My bad. If you check it via XDA app it's on page 249. #2485 (thus page 248 reply number 5, the way I remembered) ;)
[Moto X General] :
Just link to the post. ;)
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Here you go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52455944
[Moto X General] d14gvn:
my battery life sometimes is horrible, only 8 hours, 1h45m of screen on time, data sync disabled, always on 3G (H+) and only social networking and music in daily use.
[Moto X General] :
Screen shots from Gsam or something would help us figure out why.

But, if you sometimes get good battery and sometimes bad and didn't change anything in between....its probably usage (like games sometimes and not other times) or bad signal strength.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
For those who are stock, and have deleted cache through recovery, any benefits? My Moto X is still running fast after 4 months so I don't need to do it for speed. It'd be for battery life so I'm wondering if it would even affect it.
[Moto X General] CheCorchete:
I don't know, but I have a terrible battery life with my moto X. I need some advice guys, please.

Brightness on low, sync off, bluetooth off, location on battery save, google now on.
[Moto X General] ram130:
No picture of screen on?

- Ram
[Moto X General] CheCorchete:
Edited :D
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Good shout on disabling Hangouts. Didn't realise I could disable apps like that.

Can't disable Google+ as I use it to automatically upload pictures.

Already disabled Android Device Manager as Motorola already offer their own location security thing from their website.

Just waiting for my battery to reach under 10% so I can post a screenshot of GSAM.

Once I've done that, I'll try the cache wiping thing from the recovery.
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Great. Updated screenshots. No clue what changes all of a sudden but still going strong.

Sent from my XT1052
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
Just off the top of my head, sporadic signal strength + 3G data + Location reporting (on) + ADM enabled = tons of battery usage. I would turn those off and toggle 2g when you aren't using data.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Does anyone know the exact process for clearing the cache via Recovery on my stock Moto X?

I can only get as far as pushing the vol up key on the Recovery menu but then the phone boots into a logo screen with the Android robot with a exclamation mark in his belly. Can't do anything from there!
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
My GSAM results after a full charge as promised. Does everything seem OK?

Just need to try that cache clear thing now.
[Moto X General] :
It does look pretty good.....average I'd say compared to many. Did you check the time held awake screen? You have almost 4 hours of held awake time. Music??? But even your average at the bottom seems pretty average. Not great, but not bad.

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Over a day and a half is pretty decent for sure!
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
I tell you what, I love the Moto X dearly. The size, software features/optimizations, and stock-like Android but the battery is just disappointing to me. I blame a lot of it on KitKat and Google's services but I don't know how the phone cannot last longer than 3.5 hours with everything turned off while using a 720P display and less load on CPU.

I used the Moto X when 4.2.2 was current and boy was that a lot better. Again, I'm taking a lot of the blame on KitKat. I went and used an LG G2 to try out and wow. You can't beat 8 hours on screen time with GPS and syncs on and on 4.4.2 w/ LG's UI.

Ugh, OEM's need to focus on battery tech now. Hardware specs has reached its peak in my opinion. It's time to focus more on longevity and less on speed.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
After you see the Android logo with an exclamation mark, press and hold the Volume up key for 10-15 seconds and then quickly tap and release the Power key.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Thanks for your review. Unsure why my Held Awake time is so high as I've not used it for any Music listening at all, or videos, maybe a small amount of Youtube but that's it. Mainly texting, bit of Touchless Control when driving, etc. The only thing I've got that's always running is the Power Toggles app. Will try disabling it and check GSAM again when it reaches under 10%.

If this isn't the culprit, then it's likely to be Google Now which I use in conjunction with Touchless Control so I'll just leave it.

Thanks for this.

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Right I've now cleared my cache through Recovery, uninstalled Power Toggles and am using GSAM to display my battery percentage (was using Power Toggles for this as well as for adding lots of toggles).

Gonna turn it off and charge it up to 100% again then see if it makes any difference to the held awake time when the phone gets to under 10%.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I've now disabled:

Hangouts

Audio Effects

Motorola Spotlight Player

Hopefully this helps my battery life.
[Moto X General] ram130:
It won't really.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Well they were eating up RAM as they were included in the Running Apps category of the Battery setting.

If it makes very little difference, I'll just unblock them.
[Moto X General] :
Used ram has nothing to do with battery life. An open app, like a launcher say, has a chunk of ram allocated....but if the app isn't actively using the CPU, it shouldn't be eating battery. On the other hand, an app that's running and constantly doing something, like music player playing music...or a rogue app constantly spamming location or something....that will eat battery.

An app just sitting in memory can, and unless you're using it...should, just sit there idle.... Keeping its share of ram, but not using the CPU. That's why killing apps to free up ram is pointless in android. Unless its an app that does keep using the CPU. That's when greenify is very handy. ;)
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Day 3 post optimal point. Managed to squeeze out a lot of time before plugging in finally. Though android OS did eat a lot CPU during use. Still pretty good results now.

Sent from my XT1052
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
I am also disable just my audio Effects... Is it help's to increase my battery life ?
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
It's only made a very small difference and my SOT has been less than before the 'optimizations'. Will get before and after screenshots uploaded as soon as my phone is charged up again.

Clearing cache, disabling Power Toggles, Motorola Spotlight Player, Hangouts & Audio Effects seems to have made hardly any difference. It's not really worth turning these apps off.

Android OS is always the biggest battery drainer and there doesn't seem like anything can be done to reduce that unfortunately.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Told ya....I've already tested everything. Even wrote a Lil battery guide.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
How do I get to this screen? GSAM seems to have so many screens that it gets quite confusing.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Screenshots below.

Before

After

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Going to give it another go but this time with Sync disabled and the other disabled apps now enabled. Power Toggles also running as it's too useful for me to live without. Also, I've left Battery Saver turned on as it doesn't seem to be affecting how I use my Moto X.
[Moto X General] :
Really, I think you're doing pretty good having 3 1/2 hours SoT and 44 hours total.

But, if you want android OS to probably be less than 15 percent...this is normally how.

-Turn off location services. Off completely.

-turn off Google now.

-uncheck both options in android device manager.

-don't use Google+, hangouts or Google music. Freeze them or disable even.

-turn off sync for all Google stuff.

Yes, that's a lot of things off. But will drop android os to 8 percentish. At least that's what it normally is on mine. With each of those things not done, it will raise the percentage more and more.

;)

Either way....I still say you're getting very good battery life and would just enjoy the phone. :)
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
How about turning ur "smart" phone completely off and using it as a paper weight? This way ur battery would last forever ;)
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Thanks, disabling Hangouts didn't make any difference for me.

Can't afford to turn off Google Now as I often use it for Touchless Control when I'm driving.

Can't touch Music as I do listen to music once every now and then.

I had Location on Battery Saving but my first screenshot was with Location set to High Accuracy so this time I've put it back on the High Accuracy setting as it made very little difference.

Android Device Manager is always off as it's not needed when Motorola provide the same service.

Unsure what other Sync settings Google uses. I've been in the Google Settings app and checked them all. Google Location Reporting and Location History are completely off as always.

Currently I've only got WiFi on as I think I can live without having sync always turned on. Also now running on the Motorola Battery Saving mode. I'll post up another screenshot once I'm back at 1%. Hopefully having these off doesn't affect Miracast or Bluetooth as I still use these from time to time.

Will report back in a couple of days.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Actually I believe turning off sync, location reporting and notifications for those apps should be enough. I have basically sync off and everything else on and Android remains low during stand by. But with more notifications going off it raises. I've found Google now after the update is more efficient with location. Because I got it and location reporting on and still going after a day of stand by.

Feel free to enable scanning always available in WiFi settings under advanced. It should improve location and battery usage as well. If you use Google now, location history should help it keep attract of things as it use those for traffic and guidance stuff.

Today so far. Light usage

Location reporting, ADM, WiFi scanning always on. Not connected to WiFi since it's off. Left Bluetooth on this charge cycle.

- Ram
[Moto X General] :
They have toggles! ;)

Turns dumb to smart in about 1.5 seconds.

And, to each their own. I prefer battery life over convenience myself.

He asked about android os.... I told him how to lower it. What he chooses to disable or not can be his choice. ?

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My screens are way back in the thread....but i had 6 plus hours SoT always....closer to 7....and about 39 hours total, consistently.

But my point was he is doing great, for his particular setup. :)
[Moto X General] ram130:
I do agree. They always want more. Lol. Wish I could get your results without sacrificing so much stuff.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
Except if you look at your screenshot, wifi never turns off with "scanning always available" checked. Although I'm curious if this really makes much difference.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Unfortunately I've had to turn Sync back on as Google auto backs up any pictures I take using the camera ensuring I don't lose any in any unfortunate case. There doesn't seem to be a way of manually setting the frequency for the backups.

One thing I did notice was that I had my emails sync set to every 15 minutes. Now changed this to every hour.

Doubt Scanning Always Available will do much for better battery life as it silently keeps the WiFi on even when off.

Will report back when I'm on 1%.
[Moto X General] :
I've tried the everything on way....4 hours screen time (ish). That should be fine for most people....still easily get through a day. I'm just used to toggling... Especially on my s2. :)
[Moto X General] ram130:
Haha. No problem. Glad to know. I have tester getting 4 days battery life with 4hr screen on. I'm guessing you charge off?

It lower the time it takes to acquire location. Especially in the background.

It's only enabling the scanning portion. From my test. Even though it's the top consumer in battery stats, it's not. Android is using the time on to judge it. I've barely seen a difference with it on for stand by drain. Frankly it improved how fast location locks. Even with battery saver on, Maps is able to lock on really well but updates with a slight delay. So I've decided to leave it on. Since it helps when I got battery saver on.

Then sometimes this happens:
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I've enabled the WiFi Scanning option to see if it helps.

Location on high accuracy mode as then I can easily use Motorola Assist.

WiFi on and Sync on too.

Google Now enabled.

Brightness at lowest setting.

We'll see what happens. Currently at 63%.
[Moto X General] :
See, with those settings, you're getting great battery life in my opinion. ;)

I get the testing, but don't spend too much time looking for big battery gains without simply cutting some of that stuff out.

In fact, you're pretty much running fully loaded....with 40 hours total and 4 SoT.....I actually think you're getting as good battery life with that set up as anyone could hope for. :)
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Yeah I understand it's decent enough. Just doing a bit of testing with toggling different settings to see how much extra the battery can be improved and whether it's worth the sacrifice.

I am happy with my battery life though don't worry :good:

Currently at 44%
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
I see...
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
My latest screenshot attached. Best SOT so far but phone didn't last as long which is normal. Wakelock time is quite high though at over 5 hours.
[Moto X General] :
Are you rooted? Did you look at your time held awake and times waking device in GSam???

Over 5 hours awake time is a serious problem.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I'm not rooted.

Where do I get this info?
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
In Settings>Google what's the difference between Contacts and Contact Details sync options?

From my understanding Contacts are the names and phone numbers of people I have saved under my Google account. If I'm correct, then I've no idea what Contact Details is used for.
[Moto X General] :
Without root, I don't think you can.

Not 100% sure, since I've never NOT been rooted, on any device. Lol
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I'm not sure how this is relevant to battery life, but I think People Details are your G+ contacts...
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
All of a sudden, alarms hammering my battery today. Can never tell with Android smh... Usually have about 80% left at this point. :confused:
[Moto X General] :
If you notice something like that, just reboot well before your battery is dead. It will clear it.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Yeah that will usually fix it, but I like to leave it to see if it self corrects or not (and it's not) or try to single out the problem.

"Android System" has woken then phone 2000 times since 8am EST this morning lol.
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
I don't really know how many of you achieve something like 1% per hour or less. The most i get is 3% per hour and nothing else.

Is there something wrong with my phone? I always have auto-brightness on. Maybe mobile data but just on 2G while i'm at school.

I'm using greenify for most of the apps, also with XPOSED tweaks on.

GPS always on too, but, well, it doesn't seem to be a power waste because it almost never uses it.

Any other details needed to diagnose my battery, doctor?

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well I average around 0.9%-1%/hr when I hardly have notifications and on LTE only. Also have location on with location reporting. I don't have any greenify crap enabled.

I'd say use battery saver with WiFi scanning always available on. That would be better.

Second some GSam shots would help.

- Ram
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Wow! Over 15 hours of time awake!!! Something not right for sure.
[Moto X General] :
I don't know how many apps you have installed, but my bet is one is keeping your phone awake.

Without root, very hard to tell which one.

I'd factory reset. See how it is then. Then reinstall apps a few a day and watch awake time. When it goes bad.... You know it's one of the few last apps you installed.

But you will lose all app data.

That's all I can think to do.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
That might be quite difficult as I've got loads of apps installed.

I'll need to make a note of every single app I've got installed in a spreadsheet or something before resetting then, as you say, install a few at a time until I find the culprit. That's gonna be very time consuming lol.
[Moto X General] :
You are getting good battery life.... It could be better for sure without that insane awake time tho.

Without root... Not sure what else you can do.

Tough call. Lol
[Moto X General] aamir123:
you can always uninstall one app at a time or post your app list here and maybe some of them will be known offenders.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Is it possible ? If i used WIFI scanning always running then battery is save ..!
[Moto X General] ram130:
Try it. See what results you get, will be minor though.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Here's my stats. Almost 6hrs. Only airplane mode screen time of 7 minutes. Down to 87% from 100%
[Moto X General] Rask40:
Well, since AT&T wanted no part of giving me a microcell (but we're sure happy to sell you one!) despite the dearth of good towers around me, I'll be getting to try out my MotoMaker X on T-Mobile. Will be interesting to see if my battery life improves once I'm consistently getting a better signal.
[Moto X General] diehardbattery:
Here's from someone who actually TALKS on their phone LOL

95% of phone usage was on a Blueant Q3 headset and a Pebble Smartwatch connected constantly.
[Moto X General] jonas916:
After my first full day with my Moto X, I got 15+ hrs before I plugged in. That was with a little over 4 hrs screen on time, everything syncing, GPS and Google now on, 2 hrs talk time and less than an hour of Wi-Fi. I'm happy with my phone :)
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Idle drain came back last night. Lost 10% in 6 hours. WTF. I think it might Exchange that's doing it. Gonna remove the account tonight and try again.
[Moto X General] sravanz:
till root night drain with wifi gps and everything on is 7% for 8 hours. Yesterday after rooting drained 21 percent in 3 hours with the same settings. :(
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
So I see that typical Android bull**** remains. I hate unpredictable battery performance in this OS...
[Moto X General] anotherfiz:
don't stress yourself out over it. The phone gets good battery life, it will last a normal day for 85% of people, and those 15% that need more should look into a Maxx model or G2

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As i say this my phone had dropped 5% in 1 hour lol... Swiftkey kept the phone awake!
[Moto X General] robstunner:
I'm really starting to think it's a battery reporting issue
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Personally I think the phone has legit battery issues. The fact that android OS usage is so high proves it in my mind. Most people don't care because they can still get 5 hours screen on time in a day. But the simple fact of the matter is that idle drain is excessive and android OS usage is too high. Period.

Sent from my HTC One mini
[Moto X General] anotherfiz:
I'm afraid i disagree with you. The idle drain honestly seems normal if not a little better than average. a little less than 1%-1.5% per hour unless something is running rogue or your phone is going through a particularly heavy set of background syncing.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
You think 1 to 1.5% per hour is good? Here's a screen shot from my HTC One mini. It is setup EXACTLY the same as my moto X was, but the X had drain of 1-1.5% per hour, compared to 0.3% on the One mini. As you can see in this thread, many people on this forum are getting even worse than 1.5% per hour.

The X has by far the worst idle drain of any phone I've owned in the past 3 years. If you think 5x the idle drain of other current phones is normal and acceptable, then more power to you--but I don't. I guess it all boils down to expectations.
[Moto X General] jjohnson085:
I bought the phone off someone and seeing the same behavior, a couple of % per hour just sitting. I even system erased last night, installed nothing and was in airplane mode and still had pretty big battery loss. Wakelock Detector showed awake at 0% but something still going on obviously. Android OS % is pretty high too.

Guy I got it from said his experience was on par with Nexus 4 or better. I'm not seeing anything near what I was getting with my Nexus 4.

Thinking about trying for warranty exchange.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I don't think a warranty exchange will do you any good. I think it has more to do with software than hardware. I've had more than a few nights were I only lost 2-3% over the course of the entire night, and others where I've lost 10%+. If it was a hardware issue I would think it would be consistent. Clearly there is something going on behind the scenes and with all the complaints about it, I'm sure it will be addressed in a future update. Even with the idle drain the phone still EASILY outlasts basically every other phone on the market. That said, I think we should all just deal with it for now and be happy with what we have- an amazing phone with incredible battery life that is easily greater than the sum of its parts. Be happy and smile :)
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Yes, I totally agree with this post. It gets pretty good battery life in spite of the idle drain. I can't help but think "if only they solved the idle drain issue I can't even imagine how good it would be!"

Sent from my HTC One mini