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[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Sorry I should have elaborated, my battery life when phone is in use is pretty normal (compared to 4.4.2), but standby time is dramatically better. I have all the same apps, setup, etc and I notice a huge difference when my phone is sitting idle.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
I've heard a lot of people say 4.4.4 does or will improve battery life, or fix/reduce Android OS useage ( or incorrect reporting).

Would this also be true for the tmobile (xt 1053) model? Since we got most of the fixes in 4.4.3, I heard the only real difference between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 for us is the security patch.. we already have the new dialer, camera, etc.. so any idea if we would also get improved battery life or not?
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Incorrect reporting, that's what it is. They tried to fix it in 4.4.3, but it only got fixed properly in 4.4.4. So Retail US (TMO) 4.4.3 still has it...
[Moto X General] :
I have to agree. They may have fixed the high Android OS readings ... But I'm betting battery times will be similar.

A lot of people have a battery issue and automatically place the blame in Android OS and that's not always the actual issue.

If you get your update, and still feel your times are bad... It could just be your usage, or you may need to roll up your sleeves and do some Troubleshooting. ;)
[Moto X General] ram130:
It's not a reporting incorrectly guys. It's a math error in the kernel that caused it. If you look at CPU usage under OS you can clearly see this and that something got stuck. And with a low CPU usage the impact was minor. Of course there were days where it went insane and stayed at the top with a high CPU usage over 2hrs in 15hr stand by. That affects stand by of course.

Yes but it's minor depending on how severe it is for you currently.

- Ram
[Moto X General] Teksu:
I forgot to charge my phone last night, woke up to 27%. Took these at lunch before charging.

http://imgur.com/a/fYz3i
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
Verizon 4.4.4 and my battery life is horrible compared to what it used to be.
[Moto X General] abuttino:
I think I have to agree with you. Nothing good came with this update.
[Moto X General] gokart2:
I have not done the "2 minute reset" thing. My battery life was terrible on 4.4.2. After updating to 4.4.4 soak, it got just a tad better. Biggest difference was that I wasn't having the data issues. BUT......started watching what was constantly running. All the damn Google apps. So, using Titanium Backup I moved a majority of them from system apps, to user apps (haven't gotten around to the "Greenify donation yet). Now I can Greenify them. I have noticed a huge difference, along with lowering my screen brightness "lowest level" down and rocking that most of the time.

Only issue is Google Search breaks if it's not a system app, and it leaves an empty search bar on the home screen that's not removable. So I left that. Google Keyboard has an awaking issue when Greenified, it initially launches the voice search, but if you minimize it then reopen the text it works. Not that big of an issue to me. Settings>Developer Options>Process Stats has helped a bit.
[Moto X General] Datlore001:
I have no scientific data but I see no difference in battery life between 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 on my Verizon Moto X. The X is the best phone I've ever had on battery life. I'm not a super heavy user - I don't watch videos, or stream music all day - but I do text quite a bit and browse some during the day, so my screen-on time isn't minimal. Still, I easily make it through my work day and get home with 50-60% of my battery left.
[Moto X General] roze658:
+1
[Moto X General] C4Charizard:
Battery life is okay, lasts me close to a day of using . WiFi connection issues are killing me right now
[Moto X General] biggiestuff:
Oddly, after removing dashclock widget which I only had the battery widget and the flashlight widget installed, Both of which I barely used, thus my reasoning to remove them, my battery life improved drastically. I had been struggling to get to 3.5 hours SOT in a 10hr period, the last 3 days I've been getting to 4.5 hrs SOT in a 12-13 hour window now.

I play a TON of words with friends, feedly, hangouts, tapatalk and web browsing. some waze and some facebook.

PS: I did the run-on sentence on purpose to annoy you guys :D
[Moto X General] a1exus:
I'm on Verizon 4.4 and my battery life is even worse than yours! like _REALLY_BAD_((
[Moto X General] klaxeus:
I got worst battery life after 4.4.4 also. I narrowed it down to running ART. If I switch back to Dalvik, I get great battery life. So for those who are having horrible battery life and running ART, try switching back to Dalvik for a few days and see if it makes a difference.
[Moto X General] lowvolt1:
How do you know? [emoji2]

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I'm using dalvik. Have never used ART.
[Moto X General] ram130:
The complaining ..oh make it stop. ART isn't ready for the X. Don't use it. No big difference. Especially when updating apps. Anyways. Stop saying 4.4.4 made things worst. It didn't. The update is clean and minor.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
'cause I have to charge my phone in the middle of the day otherwise it won't last all the way 'til the end

my screen time is less then 2hours(
[Moto X General] beefgoat:
I flashed the AT&T 4.4.4 pre-rooted image over in the development forum, and I'm draining 4.5% per hour with 1h 49m of screen on time. Half was on WiFi and the other half was on network. That's much better than before. I was at 10% an hour with the 4.4.3 T Mobile image. Oh, I have a 1053 DE.
[Moto X General] thisguy23:
This is basically what I have for battery as well. Here's my question: why is this phone only getting half if what it used to when 4.4 first came out?

I'm stumped. I ran the phone in safe mode for 2 days and got the same battery life.

Its a great phone, but really wish we could get the battery life back to what it once was.

Hopefully they figured out something for the X+1 / X2 or whatever it'll be called.
[Moto X General] serophia:
From 6 a.m till 10:30 pm I get 21.5 hours with 3.5 hours SOT LTE on all the time
[Moto X General] ram130:
What's your secret? Google now off? Location off? Touch less off?
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
That is pretty par for the course if you have Google Now, Location off (on when using GPS), Touch less disabled.

If you go through /system and debloat properly, you can easily get 24hrs 3+hours SOT with moderate use.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well...in that case. I guess I'll continue to get 2he screen with 15hrs stand by....confirmed battery life sucks on the X. No more complaining needed.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Not sure if that is sarcasm but I don't want or use any of those features so I gladly remove them and continue to enjoy all day use with lots of calls, bluetooth, streaming music, skype/viber/whatsapp, push exchange email, regular email and much more. People seem to want to ignore the fact that functionality they want to enjoy requires that apps run/wake and access location often to provide it.

If it wasn't sarcasm, feel free to pm me your list of /system apps (via adb) and a list of your running apps and I'll take a look. :cowboy:

My list of Running apps:
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
I regularly get 18hrs with 3hrs plus SOT.. I dont think thats great compared to what a lot of people here are getting but its enough to get me through a full day with good amount of use. I have everything on by the way (google now, location, touchless, moto assist, etc)

I have taken away location permissions from a lot of apps and greenified a few - that has probably helped. But yeah, this much is easily getable I think.. I have always managed to get around 3hrs SOT regardless of other settings.. and I do listen to music and talk on the phone sometimes too. (On wifi most of the time)

I dont think its the X, must be some rogue app or something..
[Moto X General] :
I always got 6 hours Sot and 24+ total. Most things off of course.

Now my wife gets about 4 Sot and 18 total easily.

The only difference since she took it over is she added Facebook app and uses it a lot.

She still gets really good life, but it shows how one main difference in usage can change battery life drastically.

I'll continue to tell people that the X can get great battery life. Depending on setup and usage of course.
[Moto X General] ram130:
It can. Once you disable and use your phone as stock. Something i hate. And something I cant get without root.

Good battery life that is consistent.

I had near 500hrs of uptime. Phone rebooted by itself. Unstable. My stand by drain was 2-3%/hr(even with Google Now and location turned off for a few cycles) during that those cycles and charging on. And then I charged off. Left it booted fresh. A lot of notifications came in. Boom. 1.3%/hr drain. The inconsistency kills me. Overall I pray that Android L is the consistency I'm looking for.

I have similar. Additionally, Facebook app and box, Dropbox running in the list. Even uninstalled Skype just because. Hate having to tone things down tough. Taking the convenience of having a smartphone.

Just the X and battery size. Honestly.
[Moto X General] :
Hopefully L helps you. Over the months I've come to believe your phone is possessed. Mines always been consistently good... Yours seems like a bit of a roller coaster. Or it was anyway.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Lol same.

That was during the 300-400hr uptime. Bluetooth had just got connected when I took that.

I swear. I've given up.
[Moto X General] jtquen:
How did you get that amount of screen time?
[Moto X General] serophia:
Location off and i use greenify to auto-hibernate apps, thats about it
[Moto X General] abuttino:
If you are rooted, you might want to try the XPosed Module NlpUnbounce. It has reduced Android OS to single digits!
[Moto X General] ram130:
And so have 4.4.4.
[Moto X General] kenosis:
I just Installed NIpUnbounce on my device. Do I need to change NIpUnbounce settings because Icon doesn't appear in apps list.
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
I found the perfect configuration and it provides me 5 hours screen on time with 18 hours up time. I had to sacrifice a couple of thinks, but now I don't have to worry about battery life on Wi-Fi or LTE.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
Care to elaborate on what that perfect configuration is?
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
I disabled these apps and kept location off until I need it then I turn it back off. Wi-Fi is kept awake only when plugged in. Google now on because I use the widget to see reminders and weather.
[Moto X General] :
Good setup! ?
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Well, I find most Google now cards gimmicky as well as the always listening voice feature. This set up works for me.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
Thanks for sharing!
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
My phone sleeps like a baby.
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
What's your trick? Haha
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Look back a couple of posts, I shared my configuration. Most people won't like it though.
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Funny that post was yours, I'm mimicking those settings right now, thanks for sharing!
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Yeah, no doubt. Remember that if my configuration is too much for your liking, you can start enabling other features and keep an eye on that Android OS battery usage. I don't recommend enabling more than one app/feature a day.
[Moto X General] zwliew:
Not sure if this is good, but it is miles ahead of my previous Galaxy Ace II :D So I'm pretty satisfied.

I put it on charger while taking the screenshots but I didn't use my phone much while charging.

There were around 14 hours of battery (as shown in first screenshot), and around 4 hours 45 minutes of SOT

I'm using all of Motorola's services(Assist, Touchless Control, Active Display, Alert, etc.). Location is on high accuracy all the time for Motorola Assist.

WIFI scanning on, and around 80% of the time on WIFI. Rest is on LTE.

Seeing how many other users are trying all their best to debloat, restrict services in order to squeeze as much battery life as they can, I feel that using the phone like it should be used is the way to go. Even with everything on, I still get almost 5 hours SOT with 14 hours of runtime, which is pretty damn good if you ask me.

PS: It may seem like it didn't get me through a full day, but I was watching YouTube and browsing the internet the night before and did not charge my phone throughout the night. Thus, I started at around 80% battery for the day.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well..being on GPRS will do wonders for battery life.
[Moto X General] biggiestuff:
My experience has been a bit opposite but I know the reason why. 2G speeds and background services can be a pain. I'm on T-mobile and while traveling abroad my speeds are reduced to 2G. I noticed my phone was awake a lot of the times because it took forever for apps to sync. I eventually had to make sure background services were disabled or turned off and then my battery would last a lot longer. But you're right, being on a less intensive network can help battery life.
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Still getting consistent battery life.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Let me guess....everything disabled?
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55346016&postcount=4

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55329958&postcount=2
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Not everything, just the things I don't use. Makes the phone gel feel more like a Nexus.
[Moto X General] viator:
I don't know if anyone wrote this already, as I am currently on page 188 of the tread ;) but those of you who are experiencing battery problems - have you actually let it go all the way down?

Because I was very worried how relatively short my phone can last, until today. I was doing all kinds of tricks and let's say I was quite satisfied earlier today, when my battery went to 1%.

Normally I would not handle the stress and would have plugged it in around 15%, but today I decided I would let it die, just to see how long it would take.

Guess what - I've had that 1% for over 5 hours now [emoji52]

Unfortunately I am too fresh to post screenshots, but I can paste data from gsam:

My motorola XT1052 battery averages 1d 5h 53m (4h 21m 0s active usage) on a single charge.

Screen time 5h 17m

So maybe the problem is not the battery life, but rather incorrect battery level indication...

I still haven't plugged in, I am wondering if this phone will ever go down [emoji15]

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] biggiestuff:
did you have battery saver turned on? I noticed that as well and with battery saver turned on, all the background services get turned off which helps out a lot but you won't get things like syncing, some music streaming and some widgets won't update as well. Either way, it's nice to know that battery saver option helps somehwat. :)
[Moto X General] viator:
No, I have disabled Moto Assist, and therefore made the battery saver unavailable.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Battery percentage is just an estimation made by the os.
[Moto X General] viator:
Well, not exactly an estimation, it's rather a calculation based on electrical measurements.

Nonetheless, it still should be much more accurate than in my case.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] :
Let it die completely, then charge it completely full before powering it on.

Then unplug, and power on.

This may fix the inaccurate reading and 1 percent marathon. ?
[Moto X General] knitler:
Just got I yesterday and right now I have: Location, bluetooth and Wifi

7hr 42min on battery

22min screen time

37min talk time

41min Android OS

86% left
[Moto X General] nexuspur:
Gummy ROM M3

WiFi and data
[Moto X General] viator:
Letting the battery die completely and charging to full did not help for the 1% marathon...

Any other idea?

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] smallpotatoco:
i get 1 day and 9 hrs with 4hr screen on time. With GPS, WIFI always on too.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Which apps?
[Moto X General] smallpotatoco:
which apps do i use while screen on? I use mostly facebook and streaming music at the same time.
[Moto X General] viator:
10 hours on 1% and counting :/

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] Liiich:
I'm seeing with CpuSpy that the touchless control feature prevents the deep sleep of cpu, that remains at 384mhz. It's normal?
[Moto X General] ram130:
My phone deep sleeps fine with touch less.
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Hate me.
[Moto X General] Liiich:
I've reinstalled the app and I've notice that my phone goes to deep sleep until when I don't use the touchless control for first time... after remains at 384 mhz.

I must kill the app to restore the normal behaviour..
[Moto X General] phermey:
this happened to me when on a fourteen hour trip back from new jersey. i was wanting to see the low battery led light behind the speaker, which never happened btw, and ended up being hours at 1%.

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what is with these battery stats looking like the phone is being charged a couple minutes a dozen times throughout?
[Moto X General] chrisp6825:
This doesn't happen often, was before I installed a lot of the apps I use.

This is how it usually goes with a stock system, after wipes for me.

tapa'd on my moto x
[Moto X General] Thunderbolt:
Awesome score, almost impossible. All the time without battery saver?
[Moto X General] brainwash1:
A few cycles of discharging completely and recharging should make the % displayed more accurate.
[Moto X General] Markmaster:
Your service provider should be ashamed for this quality of signal. Where are you from? Who is your Carrier?
[Moto X General] chrisp6825:
Correct. All battery saver does is disable / limit background data. And this only happens after reaching 20% or so. So it wouldn't have been activated at all in this case.

This is quite true, though Lithium ION batteries don't like being discharged so much.

It was once put to me this way :

If you care about accurate battery representation, drain the battery once every few weeks / few months.

If you care about battery life (as in, not having to buy and replace the battery) then forget about the inaccuracies and just keep it topped off as much as possible.

These batteries degrade over full discharge cycles. And keeping a charge between 40 - 90 is the sweet spot. This usually keeps the cells in good condition. The chips for calculating the percentage usually get offset if a full discharge rarely happens. That's why discharging helps this.

But in my opinion, actual battery health is more important.
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
ATT Savannah GA. I believe they are that color because I have location services off and I also work in a building that has low mobile signal.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
My GSam Battery Monitor, I get about 6% per hour for my battery, I wonder what's your percentage.

I get about 2 hours of display time after switching to 4.4.4.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
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[Moto X General] _ghiottone:
Here is my battery life - only 2G, mobile data off, wifi on - only 1 hour i use airplane mode:

- more than 1 hour - .mkv video

- cc. 40 min. video stream

- the other - surfing th net with dolphin browser + facebook app
[Moto X General] Pablo1107:
For the time i been using it, the battery is great. 22 hours with 2 hours 30 minutes of screen on, i think it could be better anyway. Any thoughts?
[Moto X General] :
Of course it could be better, much. But need meaningful screen shots to see if there's a reason for your times. ?
[Moto X General] Shaydar:
Hello,

I have a problem with the Dialer/Phone causing wakelock.

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/phone-dialer-wakelock-call-t2891127

Any solution?
[Moto X General] kieranc88:
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[Moto X General] kieranc88:
battery report

I'm on stock 4.4.4 rooted with xposed running gravity box ,greenify,unicon beta and fake WiFi connection modules. I also use coolify and one power guard apps in regards of battery help apps. I sync two google accounts and a Icloud email account through the Google email app(not gmail). I use Facebook and messenger and WhatsApp. I tried to use my phone as much as I could in a short period as possible as you will see in the screenshots,small bit of YouTube , some web browsing,Facebook,pulse newsreader and some other general apps. My screen is on auto brightness and battery saver turned on when it gets to 15 % battery life. Connected to WiFi mostly and low to medium strength network signal. I use touchless control and active notifications also.
[Moto X General] :
I'd say your times are about right for your setup and usage. The social apps take a toll on battery.....and those battery "saver" apps usually hurt more than they help.

Your awake time seems decent...so I don't think you have any actual issues. ?
[Moto X General] kieranc88:
When I first got the phone(bought second hand)I got about two hours screen on, I disabled the syncing of google books and play movies and other google apps I don't use,and installed coolify and one power gaurd(which says it works on a kernel level) I don't know but by using those steps and changing facebook refresh to every 4 hours and greenify-ing facebook and messenger I got an extra 1 and half hours screen on. What's a good screen on time, are there many androids that can do 5,6,7 hours screen on?
[Moto X General] :
Greenifying those social apps is definitely a good step! Did you greenify Facebook messenger for sure? If not it will wake Facebook as well. Causing more drain.

You seem to have done all the right things. Location services is frequently a bad drain for many X owners, Google now can be too. The lower the screen brightness the better. If location is on, turning off history will help. Device only will help. Disabling the options in Android device manager will help.

But really, your screen time isn't that bad. On data? A weak Signal is killer. The battery saver apps surely aren't helping. They only suit extremely light users. Gaming is a killer.

See post 2 in the battery thread in my signature for most of this information. I wouldn't be too worried....you can definitely get better times....but will cost you features and some convenience. ?

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And for my setup and usage....I usually got 6 to 7 screen hours over 24+ hours.

My wife has my X now...she gets about 4. Only difference...she has facebook and messenger. Lol
[Moto X General] kieranc88:
I deleted one power gaurd to see if it makes any difference, I changed high accuracy location to device only and downloaded the leaked here maps beta on my phone so I wont have to rely on google maps for navigation as I use it a lot and it needs high accuracy mode and I downloaded my regional map (united kingdom) , I use greenify with the pro extension so u can use the xposed add on which gives more reliable use . Location reporting I had turned off anyway. I haven't tried much reporting on data but noticed my battery drains a lot quicker on mobile data, maybe twice as fast when browsing the internet , I'm not sacrificing google now though, I find it really useful.
[Moto X General] :
A low signal while on data is a huge battery killer...and no battery stats app will really give you any indication of this....it's the silent killer. ?

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And it will drain fast just in your pocket.

All you can do to stop it is toggle data off until you need it.
[Moto X General] lin013190:
Returned it after disappointed in battery life. I spend a lot of time in low signal areas... and it really does kill the battery life.
[Moto X General] kieranc88:
is this normal

Almost 20 percent over night, I turned screen off at 93 percent and woke up at 66 percent