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[Moto X General] raiderep:
Pretty stoked on battery life. Granted that I bought mine used off eBay so it had a little use before this but these screenies are from my first full charge with light use. Loving this phone :D

Sent from my XT1058
[Moto X General] raiderep:
Forgot screen on time...

Sent from my XT1058
[Moto X General] mazubo:
You guys, I am blown away from this run in battery life! This is my 5th or so cycle. I was getting anywhere from 4.5-5hrs sot prior to today. What did I change? I switched my brightness from 25-30% to Auto brightness, and I greenified the few apps that were being d**ch bags. That's it! I've been on wifi all day, and I've been browsing the Web for the majority of the time, as well as xda of course :)
[Moto X General] mazubo:
Ok I'm at 10%, over 7hrs sot, and I'm heading to bed now. This is what our moto x devices are capable of! I have never had a office capable of this amount of sot, no matter how many times I've tinkered with the kernel or rom. This one goes in the record books for me :)
[Moto X General] jco23:
yup - it's when the phone is connected to wifi. the cell standby refers to mobile data not connected. although it appears big, its not really draining the phone's battery all that much more.
[Moto X General] mikeosu:
Interesting, it just seems higher than before lollipop.
[Moto X General] jco23:
not really higher, just more noticeable. and then it hides in a google app on 5.1.1 (at least on the custom ROM I'm on now).
[Moto X General] mikeosu:
Thanks for the explanation!
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
I'm telling you guys... First, this idle drain this isn't new, it was present in all Android phones that I've seen. Second, I can guarantee that unless you have some rogue app, signal strength is what rapes your battery. Case to point, I get excellent reception on 700, but 1900 isn't as good in my office. If I leave the phone on LTE, I get pretty decent battery life, but as soon as I switch off LTE, my battery goes to ****s.

Don't go all crazy comparing each other's battery life as everyone lives in different areas and has different signal strength. One truly valid comparison would be to carry two phones around in the same area.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
51 minutes of screen time before I hit 90%.... whaaaaat?? All of it is browsing, xda, and Tiny Tower (guilty pleasure, don't judge).
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
Updated my list of apps safe to freeze.

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[Moto X General] SubliminalME:
Honestly, I only had about 3 hours of screen on time, since I was so busy this weekend, but at home with WIFI and a network extender I hit 10% after 40 hours.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
you might want to update your post to account for motorola connect which some people use like i did. I had some issues that were solved here:

just an fyi. thanks for the list.
[Moto X General] poodin:
Here's mine. I think its pretty good but I have my mobile data turn off whenever my screen isn't on which is why I think I'm able to get such long idle time. I still haven't seen anywhere close to 5 hrs on screen time like so many of you have here and I'm extra jealous.
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
On it!

[edit] color coded to make it easier to sort
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Can somebody report if the new T-Mobile update fixes the high android OS usage and idle drain?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
Nop, that's your responsibility.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Too bad... I don't have an X.
[Moto X General] Craaaig_:
I was getting great battery life out of the box but couldnt resist rooting to get some app processes under control. phone lasts me a full day with medium use.
[Moto X General] Turb0wned:
I wish I could get Greenify but I just want to try not to root.
[Moto X General] Bilhouse:
The idle battery drain on my Moto X is one of the worst I have experienced. On average it loses 16-20% every night which is considerably worse than my previous phones such as the HTC One, Galaxy S4 and Nexus 4. Those devices usually lost 3-6% over night.

Its my only negative with this phone. Otherwise I think its the best Android phone I have used so far.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
When people have reported that much battery drain on the past it was because of their router. There phones were staying on a lot because their phones were screwing with their wifi connection all night. They fixed it by switching routers or switching the channel of ghz (2.4 or 5 i think).
[Moto X General] Bilhouse:
Interesting. Thanks for the post. Once the battery drains out i'm going to try a full day without WiFi and see if the idle battery drain is any less.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
fyi: idle drain when it is searching for cell signal can be bad based on how good the reception is where you are at. To test if it is your wifi you can run better battery stats and look at the partial wakelocks. You can also just monitor your battery drain when you are connected to say your home wifi and your work wifi.

A lot of people figured out it was their home wifi because when at work their idle drain wasn't bad but when they got home they had terrible idle drain.

Lastly, some found that their phone used 5ghz (i think) when at home but the range for that wasn't as far so it would be switching back between 5 and 2.4 all the time.
[Moto X General] ekalb10:
I'm getting pretty great battery life, with most Verizon bloat frozen.
[Moto X General] arabanoan:
my battery

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[Moto X General] alhadee12:
I'm getting about 17 hours with heavy usage for me, for others heavy will mean something different. Light usage, I'm getting over 24 hours.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
Need Some Diagnosing

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[Moto X General] kydkupa:
Here's mine. I use greenify to manage my WiFi for when I come across a known network. I also listened to and hour if Pandora with Bluetooth headphones. But it doesn't show that on screen time.
[Moto X General] kydkupa:
Here's the other pic
[Moto X General] showstopper03:
Thanks
[Moto X General] izbrian:
Hard to tell every time I power off/on my device my stats under battery get reset
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
So far I'm 6 hours into my charge with 1.5 hours of screen on time. 70%. Looking very good so far.
[Moto X General] murso74:
i'm at 45% with after 11h 15m. 1 h 37m screen on time. have had every radio on all day (not necessarily connected though)

quick update 16% left 14h 33min on, 2h 56m screen time, mixed wifi and LTE
[Moto X General] Dark9781:
Here are some screenshots of my first full day of use. My battery is currently down to 12% after being on battery for 15 hrs and 45 mins. That is after 16 calls made and received today (2 longest call were 9 minutes, shortest call 25 seconds, most calls between 3-4 minutes, total 47 minutes 17 sconds), wifi on for a portion of the day (6 hrs 28 mins), gps on all day, bluetooth on all day, about 15 minutes of game play, 1 1/2 hrs of streaming music to my bluetooth enabled radio, a bunch of texting, a few emails sent, a bunch of emails read, took 14 pictures, updated a few apps, played with the touchless controls for 25 minutes, checked out some posts on Google+, checked on some facebook status, and surfed the internet using cellular data for 15 minutes. My total on screen time was 3 hrs 2 mins. Overall I'm happy with my first days use of the phone. Best part is I still have 12% battery to play with. I'm curious to see what else I can do before the battery dies.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
My first day with my Moto X.

I am very impressed.
[Moto X General] Hardcore73:
My battery life has been outstanding. Best battery life of any phone so far, Including my Note 2.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Mines been pretty horrible. After 6 hours yesterday, my phone was down to 65% with only 13 minutes of talk and an hour of screen time. I wasn't even doing anything major, just habitually swiping through the phone. Then it lost 12% in 6 hours overnight. Everything else has been great except for the battery.
[Moto X General] rgoyena:
Same here. Don't know what's going on. I'm making sure that there are no weird stuff on the background and also checking wakelocks
[Moto X General] GR8CDNPumpkin:
I was at 14% with 5h 57m screen on time.

That's impressive!

I seem to not have permission to attach pics in this thread?? Weird. I have in other threads.
[Moto X General] socalslim:
Very Satisfied

Here's a screenshot of I the results from I believe day two of use. I had a little over an hour of talk time and ~3 hours of screen on time. I'm easily using it all day and pretty heavily most days now. Streaming music w/ google music. I'm on Wifi most of the time at work and at home since I'm on limited data plan w/ AT&T.

Since coming from the HTC Thunderbolt, I'm over the moon...

~Slim
[Moto X General] graffixnyc:
I'm on my 2nd charge. I'm at 54% with 7 hours 49 minutes and 2 hours 49 minutes screen on time.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Was your first charge just as good?
[Moto X General] graffixnyc:
No, my first charge was pretty bad, but then again I didn't stop playing with the phone
[Moto X General] blacknet101:
Mine has been good! Yesterday I had Data on, WiFi on, GPS on (All day), Auto Sync on, and Auto Brightness

Played Candy crush, texted a lot, made 3 phone calls, and recorded 5 minutes worth of video and these are my results!

Beats my HTC One, S4 and iPhone 5 anytime!
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
For those with crappy battery life, keep in mind that signal strength matters.
[Moto X General] samarth1:
I have had the Nexus One, Nexus S, Atrix 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and the Nexus 4 before I got my Moto X, and I can say with confidence that this phone has given me the highest screen-on time and battery life of all of them. It was one of my biggest reasons for getting the phone, and I'm happy the phone has repaid my faith. This is the battery life we all desire.
[Moto X General] bootloopz:
Anyone else have "Android OS" on the top of their battery list? Mine is at 34%, while Screen is at 33%. I'm on pace for 20hrs on time and only 3hrs screen on time.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] Hardcore73:
You would get 5 hours if in screen time if you didn't have phone on for 40 hours lol. If you charged to 100 you would get over 7 hours if on screen time if you left on from 100-0. You have so much time being on it diminishes your on screen time. Try using your phone more and you will see. Of course when you get 5 hours on screen expect around 20 hours of life. It's give or take ;)
[Moto X General] Hardcore73:
I have not rooted or greenified any apps and still get great battery life. Only thing I do after restart is turn off AT&T locker, wireless video, blue tooth sharing, and my phone runs tops.
[Moto X General] Hardcore73:
Also don't forget to stop cached programs. Settings/apps/running/show cached applications. Those so take up memory and run in background d.
[Moto X General] poodin:
The phone was charged to 100% and got to 1% before the screen shot was taken. Prior to this I would get 3 hrs 30 mins SOT and around 20 hrs with my data on all the time and there's many people on this thread that are also wondering how people are getting such great SOT. As for having 7 hrs screen on time, please point me to any other instance besides the single post on this thread that hit 7 hours that isn't rooted. Please don't make comments assuming I don't know its a give and take relationship between SOT and and how long a phone has been on, as I'm well aware of that. That post was to show I achieved decent idle time in an area with bad reception which was another problem many were having and wanted to share what I did to achieve it.
[Moto X General] Bilhouse:
I drained the battery and charged it fully and left it overnight with WiFi switched off. From around midnight to 8am when I woke, the Moto X had only dropped to 96% which is much better than the usual 87-83% I usually experience.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
glad to hear it. I think im in the exact same boat as you currently. But when I looked at all my battery stats this morning (with wifi on) it didn't seem that the wifi was causing it to stay awake. But I'm going to test it without wifi on tonight and see.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
I have yet to see over 3hrs screen time in the course of one day (without even getting into overnight)
[Moto X General] Yazzinit:
I'm assuming you mean on your device, as many have posted screenshots of 5+ hours of screen time. I've also gotten 5+. Give it more cycles or you may have certain rogue apps syncing too much.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
I'm certain nothing is rouge. Its 3 weeks old now too lol.
[Moto X General] austriak:
When you get a new moto x, the getting started guide says to charge the phone before first using it. Does it really matter if you do or if you just start using it?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
doesn't matter.

edit: I know that was short and sweet but I did the research several times to make sure and with these batteries it doesn't matter. It's actually better to keep your phone plugged in as much as you can because the amount of cycles your phone goes through is what diminishes the battery.
[Moto X General] bso44:
I don't think it really matters.
[Moto X General] Yazzinit:
I don't think it matters either, as it sorts itself out after a few charge cycles anyway.
[Moto X General] ram130:
So I've been getting 1.1-1.4%/hr idle drain on my Moto X. After some researching I narrow it down to Nlp Wakelock and NlpCollector Wakelock but I can't find a fix. This was also happening on my N7. But some how I got that process under control with it only draining 0.4%/hr. This process is also "Google Services" and "Android OS"

So how do we fix this damn idle drain?
[Moto X General] bso44:
Have you disabled Location Reporting and Location History in the Google location settings?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yep but not Location History. Same on my N7.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Gotcha. Not sure since my NLP wakelocks and partial wakelocks overall have been fine. It's my kernel wakelocks that seem to be the source of my idle drain.

Does anyone know what these "main" and "qcom_rx_wakelock" are all about?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
qcom_rx_wakelock is currently what im trying to figure out for myself. It seems to be an issue that came with the 4.2 android. It's tied to wifi connection. It basically does some crazy stuff and constantly wakes your phone up to get a new connection which also causes your auto sync apps to constantly open and do crazy stuff. Drains my battery bad at night. But it is only because of certain routers. Not all routers cause it. I haven't found a work around yet. I have two routers at my house and both cause it. If you turn your wifi off I doubt you will see this anymore. One guy's battery went from 15 to 20% drain every night to 5% just from switching to no wifi. But if wifi worked correctly he would get even less than 5% drain per night.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Interesting. What router are you using? I've got an ASUS RT-N56U.

Also, any idea about that "main" wakelock in my screenshot? It sounds so generic and obscure.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
found this on intel's website, no idea though.
[Moto X General] bso44:
LOL They really went above and beyond on that description.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
there are so mayn differen't routers causing it that I don't think we can solve it that way but i got a belkin anad then some really expensive one i can't remember the name because it was a new an upcoming technology type of thing.

I got a question for you though. Do you have wifi and location reporting checked? I know you said under google service you have location reporting unchecked but I just found someone that said their wakelock only occurred when that was checked and they were on their home router.

Mine is checked but ill uncheck it tonight and see the results tom morning
[Moto X General] bso44:
You mean "Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location" in the "Location Access" settings menu? Yea, I have that checked since Google Now needs it for its location based services.

But I have both "Location Reporting" and "Location History" disabled in the Google location settings menu.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
yup yup. I have read that this could be the root cause of the qcom_rx_wakelock. Some eople have disable google now and it fixed it. Others have unchecke the wifi movilee network location stuff and it fixed it. Hopefully they will fix it in the 4.3 update or the 5.0 update but im unchecking it and seeing if it fixes the wakelock.
[Moto X General] bso44:
I guess I'll just wait to see if it's fixed in the 4.3 update since my overall battery usage is pretty good besides the idle drain.

Now if I can just track down WTH that "main" kernel wakelock is.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i just set up my tasker app to turn on wifi and gps when google now starts so that I still have the functionality. Also google now works with that unchecked. it just might not get the right location when you ask for the weather or something
[Moto X General] bso44:
When I had that unchecked on my S3, my location-based reminders in Google Now wouldn't work.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
Yes i can see that being a problem lol. I dont have location based reminders. I don't like google or moto knowing where I am all the time. Ill lose functionality for them not to know more info about me than I know about me.

Did some research on your "main" wakelock. So it seems that the wakelock can start and stop even when it is not supposed to because of many many things. From alarm wakelocks to email to qcom_rx_wakelock. It may take longer to turn on and off then those wakelocks as well which is why you might have such a huge time for it. I mean your qcom_rx_wakelock initiate over 4000 times so "main" probably initiated each of those times and also when other things were initiated. Another thing that might get fixed in the 4.3 or 5.0 update. WIthout a nexus or unlocked bootloader or custom rom you might be out of luck for this. You could try flashing back to stock firmware and see if it fixes it.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Thanks for looking into it. I'm actually totally stock, unrooted at the moment. I have the Sprint version and waiting to unlock the bootloader until my 14-day grace period is up.

---------- Post added at 02:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:16 PM ----------

Btw, do you have a link to that info you found on the "main" wakelock?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
it could purely be because of the wcom_rx_wakelock then. I mean upwards of 4000 initiations could cause a heapload of problems. Along with what ever apps were syncing constantly because of this could be causing the "main" to stay awake for a long time.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Makes sense. I'll just cross my fingers for the qcom wakelock to be fixed.

Do you happen to have the link for the description and cause of the "main" wakelock?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
it was based on reading a ton of stuff including what I have read from other places for other things but here is an example of where it came up with the alarm clock stuff.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15612544/wakelock-with-partial-wake-lock-is-not-working
[Moto X General] bso44:
Interesting. Thanks.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
My new personal best
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Today I unplugged my phone when I got to the jobsite, and 7 hours later when I left to head home I had 91% left, with 45 minutes of screen time and about 20 minutes of calls. I still have 82% left right now, 13.5 hours after unplugging. The battery life on this thing never ceases to amaze me.
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Agreed,

Typical day for me, around 15h off the charger today -- 4hrs of streaming music/podcasts via Bluetooth while driving, 2 more hours of listening to music, ~2hrs of screen time and 30 mins of voice with all 15h on cellular (no WiFi, bouncing between LTE/HSPA) and I'm at 45% an hour or two before I go to bed. Not rooted, WiFi/Location services on and BT on almost the whole day. Really can't complain.

It's not a ton of screen time, but this is a moderate day of use for me and to end with that much left is pretty impressive.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
That's insane, I'm usually at 73% in the same time frame
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
This phone is amazing, feel solid on hands not like plastic and battery life is amazing, im coming from d2vzw and the longest screen time that i got was 3.45 hrs, nothing freeze at this point but maybe ill start to do something ;)
[Moto X General] rmead01:
[MENTION=2705242]_MetalHead_[/MENTION] in our quest to achieve the greatest batt life possible I'm trying something else I haven't seen mentioned in this thread. Using Tibu I changed google maps, google search, and google play services into non system apps. This allows these apps to be greenified.

What this does (for some that may not understand) is allows the maps/play services/google now to be hibernated when the phone goes into sleep. Since I like to use google now for a few things I can't disable it completely. But this allows it to function when I turn the screen on and use it. Same for maps.

The only downside I can see the greenifying play services is that I will no longer get auto app updates in the background. I'm actually pretty OK with this. I will just go into google play and occasionally update all on my apps when i'm on wifi or at my leisure.

Hoping it makes a difference but won't know for a few cycles.
[Moto X General] bso44:
You can greenify system apps using an Xposed module if you have the donate version of Greenify.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
I didn't like running xposed. Whether it does or doesn't, felt like it was slowing the device down just enough for me to notice. Maybe it's placebo, but I've noticed the best usage of my phone has been with xposed uninstalled.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Interesting. I haven't used Xposed on this phone since I haven't rooted yet but I didn't notice a difference on my S3.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
It really could have been nothing. I only used it for moto xposed to get rid of the carrier name and move the wifi icon. Running "default" it really doesn't bother me as much as it does some people so I've been running unexposed for a week or 2 now.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Yep, I did that when I first installed Greenify. Aside from one night, my idle drain has pretty much disappeared. I passed out the other day without plugging my phone in, I had 63% when I fell asleep and 62% when I woke up 7 hours later. Left wifi, GPS, and sync on. During the day, I can unplug my phone at 8am and by lunch time still have 100% if I don't use it all that much.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
Any other system apps you recommend greenifying? I've found some hardcore things people do but it's practically neuters the phone and when it comes down to it, I still want it to work like a mobile device.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Actually the only system apps I have greenified are maps and youtube. I didn't touch google search or play services.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
if you do google search does that disable touchless controls from being able to work or when the phone wakes up does greenify stop hibernating it?
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
So that means that ussing root explorer we can rename those apps as .bak and then install the regular versions from play store right, also on moto x maps is showing as gsm maps right?
[Moto X General] mj0528:
between greenify and tasker turning off gps and bluetooth when i'm at work and home, i could go 3 days without a charge and not impact usage at all. There will be times i use bluetooth at home but mostly car use.

insane battery results!
[Moto X General] emerica243:
If u greenify maps for when the screen is off. Does navigation still work when the screens off ?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i used tasker to turn gps on only when I open navi, maps, and yelp. Tutorial here: http://tasker.wikidot.com/navigationgps
[Moto X General] rmead01:
Actually it still works. Because its actually being used and not a background task it stays open and works.

I did this until today. I turned the screen off and my GPS turned off while I was using nav. I have since turned GPS back on because it doesn't make much of a difference I've noticed.