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[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
That's only 2 minutes of screen time. I posted it just to show that when everything is completely off, there is minimal battery drain. 16 hours and only 3%.
[Moto X General] 1454:
Holy crap. I'm happy to see 1%/hr of idle drain, approximately 25-30mAh drain. That's just insane. Granted, I have a S4, but still. Any special tricks you use?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Well in all fairness, that's with literally everything off, airplane mode and no sim card installed. When I leave it overnight normally, I lose about 3% in 8 hours, not the 16 hours you see in my screencap. I completely debloated it and greenified everything else. I also leave network location off unless I need it because that is a source of MAJOR wakelocks and idle drain.
[Moto X General] 1454:
Ah, I see. I leave location on, and usually have wifi or data enabled. So that makes a lot more sense. Thanks for the response.
[Moto X General] Coderedpl:
Here is my signal graph from today. Disconnected at about 6am and now I have 17% left. Did a few restarts since I was messing around with xposed for the first time.

Lots of jumping around in terms of signal. Approximately 130pm or so I was out to lunch, out of the building and throughout the day in and out a few times.

What do you guys think? Poor signal?
[Moto X General] Palestrino:
battery life is great for me
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I know this is meaningless because it's been in airplane mode the whole time but 22 hrs off charger with only a 5% drop is pretty insane regardless of the circumstances.
[Moto X General] xpc21:
Im surprised right now...left my phone fully charge before wen bed....turned off GPS, data, sync off, edge enabled, wifi bluetooth,almost in airplane mode and didnt like the performance on stand by time....just installed GSam to see maybe what can be....any suggestions?

Thanks!
[Moto X General] Palestrino:
Esse comportamento é normal para o Moto X.. o grande diferencial da bateria é durante o uso, em stand by e tende a consumir mais que os outros aparelhos devido aos serviços que ficam "acordados" como o active display e o comando de voz..

Uma dica que eu posso te dar, que notei uma diferença, é desabilitar o Motorola ID e o Motorola Connect..
[Moto X General] pyro6128:
2hrs 53 min on screen time. Hour of calls, 2 hrs underground on the subway in airplane mode listening to podcasts while playing sudoku . Sporadic browsing and app downloads. Half the time was vz 4g lte . The battery life on this thing is awesome.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Just to give you guys more hope as someone who is considering the MotoX I got my nexus 5 first. I have 3 % drain overnight and good indication this can last all day for me. I'm not posting to convince anyone to get a nexus I just want you all to know that as good as the MotoX battery is now 4.4 will make it better.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] brycekerr:
Quick question... Bought a used x off swappa and wanted to make sure the charger was actually the one for the x. Is your wall charger white with two USB ports?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yes
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
Uhhhhh what just happened? o.o
[Moto X General] Dogbone737:
Do you mean why does it seem that battery life got noticeably better? Because I feel like the battery I got today was noticing better then the past couple weeks have been.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
No, I mean, like, I was draining about 5% per hour pretty steadily.

All of a sudden, I dropped 10% in half an hour.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Calibrate your battery, let it die all the way until it turns off and charge it up.
[Moto X General] banboy:
Charge moto x using different charger ?

is it ok to charge moto x with samsung charger with this input output spec:

100-240v ~ 50-60Hz0.15A

output : 5.0v ~ 1.0A

is that ok from your experience ?
[Moto X General] ArtnerC:
Uhh, it's pretty clear in the screenshot that WiFi shut off and the screen was on continuously...
[Moto X General] xpc21:
Another night,another test!

Well,battery full charged,disable everything,running only edge network,here is GSam test.

So there isnt nothing to do,right?
[Moto X General] thechilipepper:
Wait, your stats say 5+ hours of screen on time. That's waaay higher than all reviewers and other folks have been suggesting. Do you have data off or something?
[Moto X General] theraffman:
First full day on 4.4 Wi-Fi on for 16 hours, only connected about 4 though... I was lazy and never toggled it off. BT was on for about 5 hours. Auto brightness. 45 minutes talk time.

22hours off of charger

5 hours 45 minutes screen time

AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Another

AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] theraffman:
I don't know how to post multiple photos on the xda app /fail

AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
So... is it an improvement over your previous setup?
[Moto X General] SanD-82:
I'm satisfied with my battery life...

It's a brand new phone, less than a week.

it's a XT1058.

I'd say it's a moderate usage, with nearly 5hs screen time, auto brightness.

Not syncing all the time, some media streaming. Then messaging, tapatalk, and so...

Wifi on all the time.

Overall, I'm satisfied.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Sad to see that high android OS usage persists in 4.4. Presumably unusually high idle drain, too.

Compare to idle drain on nexus 5 below. Also note nearly nonexistent android OS usage while idle.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Yea, the nexus has great idle life, but I'd take great usage life over great idle life, any day.

Even with the statistic, android os isn't as bad of a battery drain as in 4.2.2.

Under the same conditions, I would get 1.0%/hr idle drain on 4.2.2. On 4.4 I get .6%/hr

I wonder if Motorola allocates more power to their radios in order to maintain better overall signal? The signal on this phone is unmatched by any other. Even in my house, where every other phone I had would drop calls or get 1-2 bars, moto x has 3... Side by side with 2 sgs3s(1 bar), iPhone 4s(2 bars) and an HTC vivid(1 bar) my moto x bounces between 3-4

AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Oh so you are down from 1.0% peer hour on 4.2.2 to 0.6% per hour on 4.4? If so that's actually a pretty good improvement. 0.6% per hour is within the realm of being decent. Anything over 1.0% per hour is not, in my opinion.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Yea, I was pleasantly surprised. Though, I'm not to worried about idle drain as much, I tend to charge overnight.

I also keep a 12,000mah battery pack in my go bag and I'm never far from power anyways... But good idle time is still preferred, just not that big of an issue this day in age.

AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
[Moto X General] ram130:
Can't say I've noticed the same. Had a SGS3 next to my X and most times they had the same signal. Sometimes the SG3 got a little better and visa versa. But I guess that's T-Mobile for ya.
[Moto X General] A2Trip:
Picked up this bad boy from USC and got my wifey the S4...must say even though it beats a lot against my phone (feature wise and camera) my battery life blows it out the water...I'm only stock as well as the S4 but I'll charge mine once a day compared to her two.

Sent From My Moto X on USC
[Moto X General] magicriggs:
Don't forget the Moto X is constantly doing something. For it to only lose slightly more then a Nexus is pretty good. Active notifications and touchless control are both two features I'm willing to sacrifice for that extra drain. I have noticed when I use moto connect on chrome my android OS is high as well. Be at it as it may I've used both phones (N5 and X) N5 was bought to replace the X, several days later bought an X to replace the 5. Both phones were used the exact same way from each other, pure and simple, the N5 is a 2-a-day charge. I'm not going to sacrifice all the features so I can make it through a normal day. The X goes all day no limits.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Obviously this depends on usage, but I disagree on this. I've also had both.

For me, N5 is an every-other-day charge. It has basically zero idle drain and I get 5 hours screen on time over ~40 hours off charger.

Moto X was an every-day charge for me because it loses 10x more overnight (literally) than the N5, so I simply couldn't let it go overnight without charging it.

If Moto X could match N5 idle drain, their batteries would have been very similar for my usage.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] magicriggs:
I've charged all my phones every single night weather it was a note or a nexus. The note has one of the best batteries on the market. And I had to charge it every night. So the claim that I don't have to charge over night is irrelevant. Because I'm going to do it anyways. I'm a heavy user. When the X is in use (from my experience/ and pretty much all the other reviews in the world) the X was longer lasting then the Nexus 5. There is no way that you can convince me that the nexus 5 battery is better then the Moto X. (Everyday real world use) I've owned both and compared them to each other. The battery life sucks on the 5.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Not trying to convince, just reporting my experience, and for my usage the N5 battery is better for me. There are others on the N5 forum who agree, and many who disagree. Again, all comes down to your individual usage.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
Just some general info in case people are having similar problems as well as some stats on some tests.

vzw phone, SS with 4.2.2 flashed to rom slot 1, frozen many apps in Tibu, don't use google location reporting, email syncs every 15 minutes for exchange and push for gmail, have 4 bar lte at my house with a router that supports ac for my phone (not sure if it is ac connected in my room though where it sits at night.)

I was having problems where my phone would drain from 15% to 1 % in seconds. And it would charge from 80% to 100% within seconds. Let the phone die completely, plugged it in without turning it on, it charged up to 100% (withoout jumping from 80 to 100% like normal), turned the phone on. It no longer drain from 15 to 1 or charged from 80 to 100 almost instantly. Ran some tests after that.

first pics are normal usage 100 to 1% with 55 minutes of phone calls and 2:22 of SOT, minimal gps use. These also includes wakelock stats for the same period.

After the pic of 1d 10hours of battery time, there are pics showing overnight battery drain with wifi on, including wakelocks stats.

Overview, lost 2.9% per hour during normal use test. had 1 day 10 hours 31 minutes.

Lost 1.3% overnight drain. wifi connected the entire time. decent coverage.

Edit: forgot to mention that I am running 4.4 google services and google search apks.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Jayboyy, have you checked idle drain on 4.4?

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] sravanz:
Whats the average idle drain on LTE and wifi during nights? Mine with wifi 10% for 8 hours and 17% on LTE for 8 hours. Is that normal?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
don't have att so 4.4 won't work. I did forget to mention that I am running 4.4 google services as well as google search 4.4. My bad on that front. I just completely forgot I did that. I think I have gotten better idle drain using them, but not great drain. I am thinking that when the entire build comes out we will see substantial improvements. Not sure just running a few 4.4 apps really will allow the phone to reduce the idle drain as much as the entire new FW will help.

People also have not been able to do create a SS rom from the ATT leak yet so I probably won't be able to test 4.4 until a tmobile version comes out or until it is actually released for Vzw.
[Moto X General] BaconDrips:
rooted, greenified, etc
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
My latest battery life, running google home, latest play services, greenfied loving my motoX, also let it die then recharge with out turned on till is fully charge
[Moto X General] ram130:
It's amazing I'm getting similar battery life with just stock with no extra steps.
[Moto X General] br0nx finest:
same here man. can't believe how good this phone is w/ battery life out of the box.
[Moto X General] dnorthington:
First full day with this. Stock 4.2 with gps on all day.
[Moto X General] banboy:
Niceeeee
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
Poor signal galore!
[Moto X General] meant2live218:
I'm not sure if that's supposed to be abnormally bad or anything; your screen looks like it was on for quite the chunk of it.
[Moto X General] Bunsen Honeydew:
I finally killed my battery last weekend. Running stock with everything on and auto brightness.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
Having only 70% by second period is definitely not normal.
[Moto X General] jimski427:
Here is mine. Lasted me from 6:30 am to about 7pm the following day. This was average use. Nothing out of the ordinary.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
If Motorola fixed the damned android OS / idle drain issue you'd still have had 30% remaining!
[Moto X General] jimski427:
I didn't think it was terrible the android OS usage was only about 2.5 hours. Coming from an iPhone 4s... i'm quite happy haha.
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
excuse me guys, im getting drain by Media server so im guessing i got a corrupted file on my sd card, im trying to avoid RSD Lite the root process, si my question is if is possible just to format the SD cards with out that on im going to need all that process
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
just let it work itself out. after a couple days it will go away. i helped someone else out with this issue and it is an error in some code somewhere. the media server gets hung up on something and just holds itself running. but after a couple days it will stop doing that. looked everywhere i could for a solution for the guy i was helping but didn't come across anything solid. some people would try to flash different kernels but it happens across many phones. its not just a moto x issue.
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
thanks, yes, i know sometimes happend even happen to me on my d2vzw and that how i fixed backing up my sd card on my laptop then by recovery format sd card and just move back my back up, but here we dont have those options on recovery, i'll try rsd lite and come back to report thanks again jayboyyyy
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
i got a friend that got a MotoX for about 2 months and his phone always got an horrible battery life, so i want to check with those that call to replace your phones how do you report it and did you get a brand new phone or a refurbish one, he is on Verizon Network
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i just took it to a brick and mortar vzw location and said that my battery life was terrible and i compared to others online, im a techy guy and this one is just bad trust me. he said ok, took 5 minutes to fill out the info on his tablet. got a certified phone or whatever (a replacement) within two days. I haven't had an problems with the replacement. I'm not one that really worries about replacement phones though. They could have been returned for no reason. or maybe someone dropped it and they just replaced the screen. I haven't had any problems with a single replacement but one and i have got many over the years, so getting a replacement isn't a big deal for me.
[Moto X General] gusbeto37:
I previously had a Motorola RAZR HD, which had superb battery life and when I got home after a long day I usually had between 15-20% battery left, and if I went to dinner with friends the phone usually died at midnight.

Now with the Moto X, I get home after the longer day and I have between 50-60%!!! That is totally fantastic. I usually get a lot of battery drained from turning on the display to check notifications and the hour. With the active display now I dont drain the phone as much!!
[Moto X General] NewGuy21:
I didn't use my phone for anything but a few calls and texts. Then at about the 30% mark, I uploaded a few hundred pictures onto google+. If it hadn't been for that spike, I can't imagine how much longer it could have gone.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Here's my first full day charge. Very happy with this. I'll have to figure out a new charging routine lol.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
So I had solved my idle drain issues long ago but this was an absolute first for me- passed out around 4am with 72% and woke up at about noonish with 72%. I've never had a night where my phone didn't even drop a single point before. Pretty cool.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] codygs83:
I'm dying to get my idle drain under control.

I've tried everything I've seen so far and no dice.

My latest effort was letting the bat die then recharge fully with it still off.

Best I'm getting with data and location off is 1% an hour.

How did u get yours under control??
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone- freeze everything you don't use with Titanium, and greenify everything else. Make sure you keep network location off unless you really need it, and make sure none of your apps are causing wakelocks. Wakelocks are key, use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector to hunt them down. Use the back button to exit apps instead of the home button. That's all I do. Also, some WiFi routers cause excessive drain when sleeping with WiFi on, so try turning WiFi off at night and see if that helps. When I first got the phone I had like a 1%-1.5%/hr idle drain. Now I average maybe .3% when the phone is actually sleeping. Last night was a complete fluke, I've never seen zero drain before.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] codygs83:
Son of a beotch.

Ive literally done all of that with every device I've owned.

But I've actually uninstalled most system apps I don't use. I never have data on unless I'm using it. And never sync anything or have location services on. I'm also using the kit Kat services apk and Google search that others are reporting have helped. I use better battery stats and have had no kernel wake locks out of the ordinary since turning off location, nullifying the nlpcollector wake lock.

And no dice.

I've done overnight tests almost every night trying to figure it out. Best drain I've had is 1% an hour with everything off.

I'm wanting to exchange it. But I've seen several other users in the same boat. All hoping kit Kat will fix us up. I absolutely love this phone and don't want to go through the exchange process only to be set up with another device with the same issue.

Thanks for the reply though man.
[Moto X General] codygs83:
My current usage at work. The funny thing is I actually get really good bat while I'm using it. But the battery seems to drain just as fast when I'm not! Lol
[Moto X General] Jayrod1980:
Man... I was hoping the phone got better life than this. You guys that turn everything off crack me up. The point is to not have to micro manage the device. This isn't an HTC thunderbolt we are talking about here.

I was hoping to see some 6+ hour on screen times. Battery life doesn't look any better than my n5.
[Moto X General] davidtb12:
Haha do you even have this phone? 4.5 and 5 hour screen on times are very common without doing any micromanaging, I get between 4 and 4.5 hours SOT with mobile data and gps on and I don't have good network data coverage where I work. Go troll elsewhere.
[Moto X General] codygs83:
Yup. That's what I'm wanting on mine but sadly its not happening. Battery life is honestly fine for me with the exception of my horrible idle drain. I just want better!! And I know the only way will be to exchange this gem.
[Moto X General] Jayrod1980:
Seriously... Sensitive much? I'm no troll. I'm very interested in the motox. I'm just trying to see if the positives of this phone out weigh the n5 I already have. I've always loved Motorola build quality etc but they've never built anything outside Verizon worth buying until now. The moto additions look really cool. I was just hoping the battery was clearly better than the n5 since I'd be giving up the more powerful processor, beautiful 1080p LCD, wireless charging, and nexus updates. To be honest I was fine with the n4 with all of its flaws save for battery life. My dream phone would prob be a motox maxx. I went with the n5 mostly in hopes for the same nexus experience I get with the 4 but with more battery life. It definitely does better than the 4 but not substantially.

Again I'm still interested in the x otherwise I wouldn't be in this forum.
[Moto X General] 1454:
Thats the same reason I'm here. I have the s4, but it's slightly too big. But I don't know if the pros out weigh the cons yet.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
There is a thread in general discussion about n5 vs moto x. I saw a couple people post about the battery being better on the moto x vs n5 in real life use. Substantially different from what I remember. I think one person said he would kill the n5 and at that same time with the moto x he would have 30% left. If your trying to make the decision, Go read that thread. Many people in that thread had both phones for a while and ended up either keeping both or going with the x.
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
I have owned both. Got the moto x yesterday, it definitely has better battery life than the nexus 5. I should have kept both instead of selling the nexus 5 cause I already miss it (the display and kitkat are the best thing on that phone).
[Moto X General] 1454:
I am curious about the step counter. Not for being about fitness, but just general knowledge of how much I walk. I like physically seeing things.
[Moto X General] dsimages:
I've only dropped 4% in idle over 8hrs58mins.

I've frozen all unused apps and greenify everything else. I leave WiFi, GPS, network location reporting and data on. Bluetooth off. Screen brightness in auto. I easily get 5.5hrs of SOT in 12 hrs with 25% left. During the work week I have about 2.5hrs worth of calls during each day.

A coworker has an S4 and he is usually recharging by 4pm at the end of the work day. There I sit with over 50% of batt left.

I told my coworker the other day "its great to finally have a phone that you charge because you want to, not because you have to."

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] Jamolah:
I'm not sure if this is good or not but these are my stats, Please let me know.

I did about 30 mins of voice calls, a lot of WhatsApp, 10 mins of Maps with GPS on, couple of hours of Slacker (streaming music to bluetooth), Bluetooth 100% of the time, 50% WiFi, 50% 3G/LTE.
[Moto X General] Srepoleved-Adx:
Using the phone regularly it took me roughly 26 hours total (idle + usage) before I had to recharge. Massive improvement from the GNex where I would have to recharge it every 8-10 hours whether I used it or not.

70% WiFi, 30% 4G (Spotify streaming). About a total of 45-60 minutes of SMS, a couple of hours of games, 30-45 minutes of voice, GPS enabled at all times, Touchless controls at least 50 times, and unlocked the phone at least 100 times just to look at the phone lol.
[Moto X General] xpc21:
What i realise is that when you fully charge it with phone turned off it has a more efficient charge.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Here's my first overnight drain test with the T-Mobile 4.4 leak. Better than 4.2 but still weak compared to other current flagships which for me get 0.1 to 0.3% per hour.

This is with root and tons of things frozen. But data, sync, etc still enabled.

Sent from my XT1053
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Battery life is solid