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[Moto X General] :
Without debloating and greenifying, I'd say 3 hours plus screen time might be reasonable battery life. Tho.. Allot of reports of battery issues on 4.4...So I'm not entirely sure what a true 4.4 unrooted battery life average is. Never tried it. :)

Wouldn't be too worried anyway. Over a day total is pretty good.
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Check my previous post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48710765&postcount=1300. That was completely stock & unrooted. I rooted today to get AdAway and Gravity box for battery percentage instead of downloading a widget for it. Don't know why others get bad battery life. Mines is far beyond what I expected.

Was close to a 1day and 5hr SOT, but then I unlocked bootloader and what not. So it reseted. Over night I lost just 3%.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I dont know what I am doing either. I am at a similar setup and only get 1hr 30min to 2hr SOT with 15-17hr uptime
[Moto X General] MaKTaiL:
I lose 10% overnight (8h).

Enviado de meu XT1058 usando Tapatalk
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Guys look into app ops and disable starter apps. I'm messing with them now and getting good improvements. I'll post screenshots when I'm done

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] :
App ops? Is that an app ? If so... Sounds like it does what greenify does basically? Unless it doesn't require root?
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Not sure about root cause I root my phones immediately. It allows you to determine what operations applications can use. Including keep awake. Among a few other things. Try it you'll see.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
I looked through the post but what usually causes high android system use? No Exchange and moto connect is off
[Moto X General] :
Couldn't find an "app ops" on play store....?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
LMGTFY

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
So good.

Gps, lots of texting and long calls, watching live streams on twitch.tv and more...
[Moto X General] :
Ahhhh.... I'm on 4.2.2...Not compatible. ;)

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I see. Not 4.2.2 compatible. :)

Greenify, freezing with TiBu and location services off basically had same effect. Cool apps tho... Good find. ;)
[Moto X General] ram130:
Upgrade! Lol.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
How and why is everyone still on 4.2. I turned on my phone and it told me to go to 4.4. Is everyone reverting back for reasons I'm not privy to?

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] perri.etb:
In my country (México), the 4.4 update isn't available. Still on 4.2. I read somewhere that they'll release it until February :rolleyes: so if U.S. guys thought your carriers sucked because some had to wait two weeks more, think about it again.

Maybe others are on the same boat.
[Moto X General] darksora145:
For me I have everything enabled except Bluetooth and my battery life is pretty darn good if I stay in one place. I average around 15-16 hrs and about 3hr sot even with data only it comes out about the same. But when I commute a lot one day my battery almost averages about 6 hours! Even when I don't use my phone much. I don't know why
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Isn't there a flashable zip around here somewhere?

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] perri.etb:
I read that we couldn't flash us firmwares. I unlocked the bootloader but that made me loose my warranty. Maybe for some people it's not worthy to lose it for an update. I'm relying on the six Sigma quality control lol.

Anyway, let's stop this chitchat because that's not the topic of this thread. ;)
[Moto X General] Greg8:
Where I work I have very bad reception - I find even after charging my phone overnight, by the end of the day my phone is almost dead.
[Moto X General] tawheed12:
Was hoping to get some input on my battery life from you all. So far the battery seems pretty average. I'm on a Rogers device, stock 4.2.2. Looks like a few wake locks.
[Moto X General] Son et Lumiere:
Well my X sucks balls after the 4.4 update. Frankly, Kit Kat is trash and Google can go **** themselves for it. Yet more functions removed, unnecessary changes, flash gutted and oh yeah, my battery life sucks. Got that Android OS battery drain failure of coding and I can't even run wakelock detector because of some bull**** change in the permissions of 4.4. Guess I have to waste more of my time wiping the device and going back to 4.2, which I have to do to gain root access anyways unless I want to throw my warranty away. Kiss my ass Google, I'm getting sick of your stupid 'lets be more like Apple in the name of simplicity' horse**** by the day.
[Moto X General] :
No thank you. ;)

4.2.2 is running great, my battery life ranks with the best I've seen on here, flash works flawlessly.

If it ain't broke...... Lol
[Moto X General] :
Oh... Otg? Another sorry your out of luck on 4.4 feature? So I just read. But that's hearsay for me... Haven't tried it.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Having never used Greenify before, is there a good guide for it? I know I've seen lists of apps that are ok to freeze/remove/disable in the past for my other devices. Does one exist for the Moto X? I don't want to Greenify anything that will negatively impact the device.

I found that I got pretty good battery life this weekend and my held awake time in GSAM was <2 hours, compared to 3-4 on weekdays last week.

Not sure what the cause was, but I'm still only getting around 14-15 hours with 4-5 hours SoT. I'd like to try Greenify and see if I can get closer to 18-20 hours with the same usage.

Thanks!
[Moto X General] :
About the only thing on my greenify list that shouldn't be hibernated is play services. Not even sure why that's a user app on my phone. Anyway... Almost everything there are user apps. You can greenify about anything. But, I tried greenifying Swift keyboard and in the moment it takes to wake up when I do something that requires a keyboard... Voice command would pop up first. So I don't greenify the keyboard.

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Again, in over a day I usually end up around 45 minutes held awake time.

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You're screen time is still pretty good tho... So not a dyer situation for you there. ;) It's more your standby time that is getting hurt.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
You have Google Now on, dont you? For me at least, that is the worst battery sucker next to full screen brightness. Location and Google Now are the first 2 things I turn off when I get poor battery life. Only problem with me is, both of them are off for me and I am still getting average - below average battery life.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Well I just ran Greenify on some apps and I'll see how it goes. I left Facebook active for now because I do get messages from time to time.

I did use Disable Service to turn off background Location Service, but I think there's about 54 other processes in the Facebook app. Might play around with more to trim it down. Will see how my held awake time is today, at 36m39s right now after 2h42m off charger.
[Moto X General] :
That's still extremely high held awake time for only 2 plus hours. Facebook was a battery eater big time on my wifes s2. That was a year ago tho... Maybe it's better. Either way, if Facebook was holding your phone awake, gsam would show you that. It's google or Motorola related holding your phone awake tho. For sure.

I'd try a day with everything google related frozen... Except play store, google play services and maybe calender.... Tho make sure all google syncs are off. Also freeze everything Motorola related. See how that goes for a day. Then bring stuff you want back.. One at a time... Watching your held awake time in between.

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I'd freeze Facebook too during this test. Use the Web in the mean time.

Don't forget chrome and play music. Freeze. ;)
[Moto X General] fury683:
When you say Freeze, do you mean with Greenify or something else? I only saw "user" apps that I installed in Greenify. Is there a setting I need to toggle to see stuff like Chrome?

I shut the phone off and plugged it in (it was at 78%) to see how it goes for the rest of the day with the apps I hibernated. One app in particular that I hibernated was waking the device a lot, but I may inspect it with Disable Service to see if there is anything in particular doing it. I'd like to still get notifications from that app, but if I can't solve it with one or more services, I might just leave it hibernated. Not that important to me.

Play Music (along with a ton of others like Books/Magazines/Movies/etc) are disabled in the App Settings portion. Is this sufficient?

Thanks for the advice :)
[Moto X General] :
Well, I freeze with titanium backup. Honestly I'm not sure what all disable in settings does. Same thing I think... But I've never done it that way. You need to be able to see all the Motorola stuff. If settings shows you that, great. If not... You need titanium backup. There's allot of Motorola crap . Lol

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Here's my held awake time for the last 2 charges. It's fairly consistent.

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[Moto X General] fury683:
I'm doing better, I think.. only 10 minutes held awake, but only 1 hour off charger. Google Services has about half of the held awake time. Would something like Wakelock Detector tell me specifically what's causing it in more detail than just "something Google?"

Would C2DM be lumped in with this?
[Moto X General] termleech:
Google services is probably location reporting turned on in google now. That eats battery like no ones business.
[Moto X General] Greg8:
At least I am not alone with my current issues. Big thanks to all of you for putting so much effort into trying to figure out our problems.
[Moto X General] quickstang:
Well, these are my battery stats. Coming from the crappy battery life of my Galaxy Nexus, these stats are amazing. Even half that would have been awesome.

Phone is stock 4.4 on T-Mobile. Gmail, hotmail, tapatalk, some Internet browsing, Facebook chat & texting.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Almost 4hrs SOT, for 2 days. That is superb. I'm close to a day with 4hrs SOT.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] rupterr:
Does anyone make phone calls anymore..lol
[Moto X General] :
I only have 200 minutes on my plan..... I usually use no more than 20. Lol
[Moto X General] termleech:
Lol I do. I average 3 hours of calls a day for work. And I still get 3 hours of screen on with plenty of juice left. The moto x is awesome.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Greenified a bunch, even more than I had originally because I added the Xposed module to keep notifications. Seeing how that goes for now.

To the person that said Google Now is eating it up with location.. Is there any way to reduce that AND still get the traffic notifications? That's the only location based on I use. 35 mile commute males it very valuable.

Also saw there is Tasker integration for Greenify.. Anyone used that? Could I toggle it on/off every 30min and get similar experience?
[Moto X General] rockingondrums:
I've actually been using Location Reporting for quite some time and across several devices (Gnex, S3 with CM or other non-TW ROMs, N5, now Moto X) and it's never been a problem for me. Of course, I usually flash an awesome kernel that eliminates mpdecision and actually keeps the cpu at minimum when the screen is off.

The battery life on my Moto X is terrible. Usually around 12 hours with only an 1 or 2 hours of screen time. I don't have that many apps installed and I don't even launch many of the ones I do have installed. Right now, I'm just testing my Moto X to see if I want to keep the N5 or the X. The N5 with a custom kernel smashes on the X when it comes to battery life. There's only 1 kernel in the Moto X development subforum, and it appears they keep mpdecision so that's not worth voiding my warranty over.

All the normal suggestions people have to saving battery are things I've never had to do on all those other devices. I set location accuracy to High, Location Reporting on, can't recall the others... but yeah, I don't do any of the normal suggestions to save battery and I get acceptable battery life on my other phones. Yet, on the Moto X, I get the worst. And the thing has a smaller screen, an AMOLED display that I've got Lux dimming the crap out of (same with the other phones), it feels the heaviest yet it has 100 mAhs less than the N5...

When I look in battery stats, it's constantly being woken up for something while the phone is in my pocket and I'm at work. The most recent wakelock culprit is Calendar Storage but I'd actually like to have an up-to-date Calendar. Now, Calendar Sync is responsible for syncing, and Storage is an API that apps access. I am testing Event Flow and Cal (both apps featured by XDA) and I also have the Google Play Calendar installed (but the AOSP Calendar frozen by TiBu), so maybe that's the problem? If someone can shed light on all my wakelocks, I would be grateful.
[Moto X General] quickstang:
Kind of in the same boat. I'm on the $30 plan from tmo & it only has 100min. I make them here & there, but no more than a few minutes.

If anything, what I would use minutes for would be calling customer service for a business along with calling 911 on occasion for my job. Roughly 10 min by the time dispatch gets all the information.

Other than that, that's the majority of my calls.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] ram130:
Any luck? :/
[Moto X General] termleech:
Last time I was reading the reviews on the Google calendar from the app store everyone was saying they had the same issue with the calendar. It would wakelock like crazy and drain their battery. Might not be specific to the moto x
[Moto X General] gskelter:
After kitkat my battery life is worse im not root at this moment, i am having more or less 4 hours of screen but with 4.2.2 i was having much more screen time, any suggestions?

Enviado desde mi XT1053 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] DBBGBA:
I had to turn off Wi-Fi, I already had location set to battery save. The Wi-Fi was draining battery like crazy, it's ok though LTE here is faster than my Wi-Fi.

I forgot to say I'm on 4.4.
[Moto X General] :
Hard to find much fault with 4 hours screen time. That isn't bad. Other than turning off location services, syncing and keeping the screen dim... Not too much more I'd worry about. Maybe freeze some Moto bloat.

Of course the obvious answer is go back to 4.2.2 if you want. From what I've seen, overall, it seems 4.2.2 is more battery friendly. ;)
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Seems me and just a few other people can get 4 - 5 hours easily SOT with 4.4 with over a day of use without the needed of greenifying and debloating. Don't what is the problem for others. .
[Moto X General] dpw2atox:
I'm personally hopeful that we will see a 4.4.2 OTA come out in January for the X with some bug fixes and battery life fixes for Kit Kat.
[Moto X General] ram130:
They are working on it. In fact its what has delayed the update. Rest sure they are on the inconsistent battery life.
[Moto X General] OilDigger:
My battery life is great! I will never go back to those over powered, battery draining devices like the Galaxy S4 for example. ;)
[Moto X General] rockingondrums:
Did you mean to quote me? It showed someone else that didn't mention calendar, but I did :)

Do you have a source on this?
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
What does this mean? The kernel has been destroying my battery ever since I rooted...
[Moto X General] termleech:
Haha my bad yea tapatalk on my phone must have messed up the reply.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Sorry man, still haven't done it yet. Been pretty busy with the holidays. Remind me again tomorrow.
[Moto X General] Greg8:
Yeah mine seems to be the same too. WiFi off has really helped so far.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yes..the Motorola team. I'm also gonna work with them on it after the holidays to share a few things.

No problem. I figured. Lol.
[Moto X General] tigim101:
I bought a second hand moto X from swappa, kind of mad because they released more 150$ off codes 4 days after I bought it, but oh well. Atleast I got to give some guy some cash for the holidays. Ive been hearing amazing things in terms of battery life, but thats not what im seeing.

Here is a screen of my battery life

This is completely stock, bootloader unlocked but stock recovery and no root. Might be calibration issue since the battery % jumped up a bit. The idle at first was pretty good, but as soon as I start using the phone with the screen on, the battery life plummets. I was mostly texting with whatsapp, and browsing the web and watching some videos. The phone immediately heats up to about 41-43 C, which is pretty warm to me. You can see after 2/3rds in the percentage drops like a cliff. I also have very high Android OS usage.

Here are some system monitor screens

Ive only installed a handful of apps, maybe 6 or 7. Have most of google sync off except for gmail, contacts, app data, and calendar. Location services off, and I set up moto touchless control maybe half way through the day. Ive logged about 15 minutes more screen time and 30 minutes total since the screen shots on 1% and the phone still hasn't died, which is odd.

Im going to try rooting and messing with CPU Profiles and greenifying.
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
@ Above, try factory resetting and letting drain to 0%.

This is my battery life after a full day usage. Same things done as before. But I think I'll greenify things I don't want running after exit.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I think its just safe to say I have a different phone than everyone else in this forum haha. Still only getting an hour and a half of SOT with 16 hours up time. After recalibrating, greenifying apps and pretty much every feature turned off.
[Moto X General] snoking:
Battery life and notifications

For those with battery life problems, look at the notifications you have selected.

Settings

Active Display

Manage notification types

At the top of this screen is a check box for Automatically select downloaded apps. Un-check that. Then select only important apps like phone, messages, email etc.

See if that helps!

Chris
[Moto X General] NJGSII:
I'd have to say that this is pretty damn good.

All location services running and autobrightness for screen. Account sync and constant use of google hangout chats.
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
Anyone know why the kernel (android os) is now destroying my battery? Factory reset after rooting, most stuff greenified, app ops to disable a lot of stay awake and location stuff
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Nice to get into the 6hr SOT club.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Pulled a nice one today. 13.5 hours of standby with 5.5 hours of SOT watching YouTube for a few hours.....with 30% left on battery
[Moto X General] ram130:
Those with 5-6hr screen on seems to always be using WiFi mostly. So without WiFi must be 3-4hr.
[Moto X General] NJGSII:
Yep, that's what I have found in my experience. Wifi is just easier on the battery than LTE. Mixed between the two I get around 4 hours and with mostly LTE it's in the 3's

Days usage is attached. I typical do not use my phone this much, but I was bored at home all day with the fam.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Was about 65/35 Wifi to LTE in my case but I had excellent signal most of the time. Quality of signal is more important than Wifi vs LTE IMO.
[Moto X General] fruitytoilet:
Is everyone that's getting crazy battery life disabling location reporting and Google now?
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I got the results of disabling and app ops. I don't use Wi-Fi. I've frozen a decent amount of bloat with TiBu. I have Google now active but I don't use GPS. All the MotoX features work, but I had to disable push on my exchange acct. I'm gonna try the nexus apks after a full charge. I did turn on battery saver at 3% to try and hit 48 hours but that failed. Screw the droid Maxx I've got a Moto Maxx. But I digress and on to what you came for. Screenies!

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] Kittiesoncrack:
Okay, from my experience, Kitikat will eat your battery unless you turn Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep to only when plugged in, and scanning always available to off,
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
I have scanning off, but Wi-Fi always on and my battery is superb. I guess some people's devices vary from others

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
If you read through the topic someone had a wakelock checker that solved a few problems

Adding my battery life before it dies. Second Full Charge, considering I wiped the temporary cache a quarter of the way in this is pretty damn impressive. (Moderate usage, some phone calls and browsing, all on wifi...I still haven't left my apartment lol)
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Just in case anyone else has similar performance --

So I lost ~20% overnight (around 8 hours) from being charged to 100% before taking it off the charger. Now granted the phone signal is very weak in this particular part of the house but as I mentioned before my HTC One GPe would not lose more than 3-5% overnight, so I am not sure what's different here.

At this point I'm not sure why the discrepancy is so large between this device and the HTC One when it comes to idle drain. Going to try the same thing tonight with WiFi Network Location turned OFF, as it seems like that's the primary culprit in not letting the phone go into deep sleep.
[Moto X General] clovis_ll:
let us know what you find out.. i had the exact same thing this morning. i took it off the charger at exactly midnight then i got a text at 9 am and the phone is at 79%. and yeah, my location access is on as well.. its weird that something keeping my phone awake the whole night. i'm also thinking that my signal wasn't good at the house and i forgot to turn on my wifi?
[Moto X General] RogerPodacter:
So let me ask, is there any moto x users here who have proper idle drain overnight? Anyone here only lost 3-5% over 8 hours with their x? It surely must be a setting or similar. I can't imagine this is the result of the low power cores foractive display and audio. Anyone?
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Fan boys are going to deny it but this phone and the new droids clearly have some issue with idle drain. Look at almost any screen shot taken and you see android OS right near the top of battery consumption. Despite what people say, that is not normal. On a properly optimized device, android OS and android system should never be at more than 5% or so, especially when the phone is idle. And like you experienced, lots of people are experiencing significantly worse idle drain than on a GS4 or an HTC One. Battery life on the X is great when it's being used, but idle drain is unquestionably sub par, though not to an extent that people would notice it unless they are actively comparing overnight drain to another phone.

Maybe it has something to do with the always on features? Surely the fact that it is constantly monitoring for movement (active display) and "ok Google now" must have an influence on idle drain... and maybe that's why we are seeing this idle drain behavior.

-Sent from my Droid Mini.-
[Moto X General] hassan_abdul:
Fan boy ...

One should avoid words like "fan boys" because it is not very nice ... ;)
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
Add it to the list of bugs to be fixed in the update with the camera.

And then imagine the battery life once it is fully optimized
[Moto X General] Rask40:
All I know is that I have absolutely craptastic AT&T coverage inside my house.