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[Moto X General] rmead01:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2432729&highlight=titanium

That was the guide I followed. I didn't do everything as there are a lot of services I chose to use, but it was a great starting point of what you can freeze with no repercussions.
[Moto X General] bso44:
thanks
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
My guide hehe. Lemme know if you guys find any other things that we could freeze safely.

So I restored my phone using FXZ, installed all my crap. Froze all those things with Titanium listed in my guide. I FORGOT to set up google now and touchless controls, and I am getting pretty good battery life. I'll post a screenshot right before it dies. So far I'm at 2 days 3 hours standby, 4 hours screen time and still at 14% battery. I'm just running bone stock ROM, rooted, crap frozen through titanium. No Xposed (I hate xposed personally, lags my device)
[Moto X General] @home:
I'm not rooted & I don't have the developer edition so how can I flash faux kernel?
[Moto X General] coolicool:
just one day use,i have to charge it every night
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Then you can't unless tour boot loader is unlockable
[Moto X General] :
You can't judge all phones or all peoples use of it the same. Since the day I got my X I've had about 28 hours on a charge with 5 to 7 hours screen time.

So to say the moto x has incredible or terrible battery life I guess is not a fair assessment. It depends on the actual phone (no...not all phones are created equal, yes I mean same models) and users all have different setups and usage patterns.

More people seem to get great battery life than bad tho...by far. That's based on what I've seen on xda and also the fact that not near as many post on here to say everything is good, as they do to post problems. Right? :)
[Moto X General] @home:
Doesn't really help me though.

Ah well, I'll have to live with it or dump it.:crying:
[Moto X General] Barktooth:
I agree completely with you about the different usage patterns... but the creation process can't be so uneven in terms of the battery life. It might be the carrier rom, or even maybe the radio signal =(
[Moto X General] rda990:
This is hard to believe for me. Do you mind sharing your exact settings/setups? It would really help me and everyone else out.

Did you charge your device out of the box to 100%? How many times? Or did you just use it out of the box?

Rooted or unrooted?

Settings such as wifi off or on during screen off?

Location?

Etc, etc. If you are constantly getting that great battery life then I think you should make a thread with all your settings and stuff, it could help all of us out.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
This is ridiculous, really...
[Moto X General] :
I did make a thread. LOL

Its buried way back now. Click on my profile, go to threads started. Its there.

Also....guys....you can't have read this thread much. No offence intended, but I've extensively troubleshot with others. I've shared my setup. And I've posted a bunch of screens. Find my last screenshot and look at the average battery times on the bottom of my gsam screen. Average, over a day total...and over 5 1/2 screen. Average. There's one screen of 7 and 3/4 hours screen.

Without screen shots, the right screen shots.....no one can help. We'd just be guessing your issues.

Back a few pages only I helped a member. Read what screens I asked for. Then you can get some help. By me or others.

Hope it gets better for you all. The phone is capable of crazy times. My wife uses it now....I got the flashaholic itch...so she gets the amazing x......and so far I think, I get the nice N5....but I'll continue to say the x is better in most categories. :)

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Here. This is the only way I can help....for me anyway. I don't like guessing.

Gsam. A full 100 to 10 or so percent cycle. Print screen 5 things. Main gsam screen. App screen. Times waking device screen. Time held awake screen. And kernel wakelock screen. Not sure which of those you may not get if your unrooted.

I'll say this....and people disagree, but this is my opinion. Location services. Battery sucker. Most moto apps, except touchless and active display....battery suckers. Too much syncing, battery sucker. Exchange, battery sucker. Actual phone calls, bad bad battery sucker. Ironic eh. LOL. And anything that constantly checks the web for info....to give you a notification. Bad.

That's my opinion. And experience. :l
[Moto X General] Thrillhouse847:
If you people asking to see settings for those of us getting great battery life would just look back through even just the last few pages of this thread, you'd see I and many others have already posted settings.
[Moto X General] @home:
Second line on here>>>http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/battery-saving-tips-t2561392

Root required - I don't have root. I have a UK modal that's not a developer edition.

I don't want to have to root & void my warranty just to get some decent battery life.

If that is the incorrect thread I do apologise.

Ta
[Moto X General] :
Yup...that's the one. ;)

Yes...unfortunately a lot of things you can do require root. That's also part of the beauty of android tho.

Some of that does not need root. Like simply turning things off. Trade offs are made for battery extension tho. And yeah...some don't want to lose things. Everyone is different.

Get some of those screens tho...and maybe there's things that will jump out. Hopefully.

I could never live without root. That's just me. For battery, customization, etc. I'll risk my phone to have it how I like it.

Again...everyone is different tho. ;)

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Best advice. Read this whole thread...when you guys can. Tonnes of great info.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
kj2112, What carrier are you on (just out of curiosity)? Something that I haven't seen mention here, is how much of a battery killer having a BAD network signal is; killing your battery (due the radio cranking up voltage to maintain a connection). You can significantly decrease this by maintaining a good connection on a wifi network. Also GSM radios and CDMA radios do not behave similarly in that, you can drop to 2g to save power on a GSM radio, but it will have the opposite effect on a CDMA radio.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
The thing is I've always had those things ON and I rarely make actual phone calls and I've had decent battery life on 4.2.2. I remember I even used to make phone calls on 4.2.2 some days and my battery used to last more than it lasts now.

I didn't change anything in my setup, I didn't turn anything ON which was OFF on 4.2.2, all I did was update from 4.2.2 to 4.4 and then to 4.4.2 and my battery life got worse with each update.

I did post Gsam screenshots earlier and you said it's my WiFi router. But this has been the same as well, the only difference was that Range Extender that I installed, but I tried switching it OFF one day and nothing changed! I even tried a Factory Reset and nothing changed!

I just want my battery life to become decent again!
[Moto X General] :
I agree. But that's a hard one to figure out exactly, since gsam and anything else I've seen doesn't reflect that loss at all in its stats it seems. Just last week I worked in a place with zero signal half the time. In 7 hours I was at 35 percent....I didn't notice til lunch. Yet gsam had radio at 6% percent of battery use. Right. LOL

So unless guys are more specific with issues and include their signal patterns in info....apps like gsam won't show the problem if that's it.

I'm on telus in Canada with a Rogers X. A good test will be how it is on Bell now cause my wife has it. We'll see if, between those 2 carriers anyway, there's a noticeable change in battery life. Tho...bell and telus use the same towers. So probably no difference.

Good point!

In fairness.....my best battery days have been at least usually half or more of the time on wifi. But no matter what is going on, I've never ever got less than 4 hours screen time. And that's rare to be that low....usually 5 1/2 plus. And that's 12 hours minimum on data...not wifi. (10 hours at work, plus travel)

I think I'm on pace to make the N5 battery look really good too. LOL. Of course I did all my usual tweaks to it too. I'm at 76 percent left....9 hours on charge with 2 hours screen time. :)
[Moto X General] dedei:
I just disabled tons of things based on this thread

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-freezing-moto-x-bloat-titanium-t2432729

let's see if it improves a bit!
[Moto X General] :
I've done most those and more. Its all preference. Some want all the bells and whistles on...which I totally understand. Others, like me....run very very light. I wouldn't use any of it anyway...so I don't feel I'm personally missing out.

Its all taste.
[Moto X General] dedei:
I'm kinda...neurotic? lmao I keep checking to see if anything is broken like twist camera and such...like now my gps was not locking and I freaked out LMAO but I guess it's because of my poor signal. I'm trying to calm down now!

Btw you're using fauxkernel right? May I ask if you used his recomended settings?
[Moto X General] rda990:
lol I found your thread and realized I've read it before. Didn't know you made it. I've been doing everything you mentioned in there since day one (BBS, GSam, Wakelock Detector, & Greenify).

Here are my screenshots. I have Instagram and Twitter Greenify'd, but not Facebook messenger, so those 2 don't even check or poll for notifications which explain why they aren't using much battery at all. In the other hand, Facebook Messenger is constantly checks for messages, and wakes the device up with every new message I receive (right?). I just realized that and will Greenify it now.

As for the other battery hog, it is showing as "Kernel (Android OS)" with 14% use. When viewing the Kernel Wakelocks screen you get "bam_dmux_wakelock" which I have no idea how to solve.

My GPS is always off, and screen brightness is on Dim or as lowest it goes probably 95% of the time. Wifi is always on during sleep, not sure if I should select it only when charging? When you say "Most moto apps" which ones are you referring to? The only ones I can think that run on the phone are Active Display and Touchless. I also find it funny that using the regular phone for calls does use a lot of battery.

Here are my screenshots, hoping you guys can help me get the battery life you guys are getting:
[Moto X General] :
I didn't change any faux settings at all. Really tho...battery is maybe a bit better....but maybe it would help others with more things running than me.
[Moto X General] overthatscreen:
The best I have gotten with the X is 15-16 hours. That includes 10 hours of nonstop mp3 playback through Bluetooth and 45%-50% screen on time. So I'd say heavy use.
[Moto X General] vipergts450:
This is exactly, down to the word, what is frustrating me as well. On 4.2.2, out of the box when it was new, I had EVERYTHING on and got 26+ hours of NORMAL use with the exact same set of apps I'm using now. I even went so far as to uninstall Facebook, thinking it was responsible for some of the battery drain. No change. I don't see why I now, all of a sudden, have to compromise on which features I'd like to use just to make it through the day. It's annoying, ESPECIALLY so since I had a full 2 months when it was new of never having to compromise. Motorola touted this phone as a power-sipper when idle. What the heck happened in the kernel or radios thereafter?
[Moto X General] syntrix:
SAME HERE.

VZW LOCKED on 4.4.2. I can get to 28% (3.5 hour best case) at lunch with very little use in my book on 4.4.2. I'm typically at about 50-60 at this time, head to lunch on the car charger, then about 50/50 on the charger back at the work pc.

Since the update, I'm 100% on the charger at work. I'm in the boat of WTF happened, and why are we now stuck on 4.4.2, and can't downgrade?
[Moto X General] :
My n7 is back on 4.2.2. Not because of battery, because flash was so unstable on it on 4.4.2. All its used for almost is flash and streaming. My point is that it's a drag about all this moto x bootloader stuff. Would be nice to be able to downgrade if we wanted to. Part of the reason I got an N5. LOL.

Wife absolutely loves the moto tho...I miss a few things too for sure!
[Moto X General] conquesoextra:
Everything ON, still whit 9%

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[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I think this is decent with 5 hrs SOT, that's the kind of battery life that I'm looking for...

How much do you get with say 1 hr SOT??
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
This is after over night. Normally I'd lose about 5% by now. But since removing Verizon bloatware this is what I'm getting. Location on but maps off. WiFi off

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[Moto X General] conquesoextra:
Sorry bro I don't understand.

¿What is SOT?

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[Moto X General] Teksu:
Screen On Time
[Moto X General] rda990:
That looks perfect idle. Last night after 8 hours I lost about 8% or so. Do you mind posting what Verizon bloatware you froze so I can get the same battery life as you? Thanks.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
About last night....

Finally had some time today to play on my phone and actually run it down.
[Moto X General] Barktooth:
Amazing idle drain... My device drops almost 20% in the same amount of time =/
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I would have lost at least 30% in 6 hrs...
[Moto X General] ram130:
Lost 7-8% in 8hrs stand by on pure stock 4.4.2. No root. Location on, touchless on, WiFi off, active on.

Hate how repetitive this thread is. 7days later, same type of stuff and questions.
[Moto X General] dedei:
I'm having perfect deep sleep but kernel (android os) is always on top of my list with 13~19%. This is driving me nuts! Right now i'm at 75% with 6h35min of battery, and 1h17min SOT. No location, a couple of minutes on wifi, 3G always on, 20min max of calls. Is that right?
[Moto X General] @home:
What kind of stuff & questions do you want?:eek:
[Moto X General] :
Cause no one wants to go back some and read it. LOL

I guarantee if someone with bad battery reads thru a good chunk of this thread....problems would be solved without posting a thing.

But what can ya do. Lol
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
thought i should point out that people saying they use to get great battery life but these new FWs are not as good even with the same apps. Apps on one FW might work fine then crush a phone on a new FW because the dev on the app didn't do his hw correctly. So your same apps on one FW could crush your battery on another FW.

Also, everyone should stop with android OS stuff. DO your home work on how to figure out what is triggering android OS. google services. etc. as many have pointed out, apps use all of these services and your battery monitoring apps aren't going to show you that the app is the one draining the battery. so if you want to solve the problem. figure out whats behind the curtain. don't blame it on the curtain.

lastly, battery monitoring apps can be and often are wrong. they are just reporting logs that android creates, sometimes inaccurately. they are good to show obvious problems you may have. but most often the problem will be app related and figuring that out is much more difficult than looking at gsam or BBS.
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
I flashed script by Q9nap. He's got a thread in development.

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Nothing at all lol. Happens on every device thread....can't break a trend.

Lol oh you'll see it in the last 4-5pages of this thread. Guess I should write a battery guide to help.
[Moto X General] sonic1675:
So I did and I'm on a 4.4.2 unrooted non Dev and my battery life sucks even after disabling everything from moto bloat and verizon with Wi-Fi off Bluetooth off location off and brightness to lowest with still averaging like 10 hours a day
[Moto X General] Guilhermewpds:
I was wondering if anybody here does listen to music in the moto x to compare to my times. When I don't listen to music, I get impressive results, whilst with music it is pretty much average.
[Moto X General] jimbo0914:
I was easily getting to the end of the day with about 50% left (12+hrs) until recently (maybe last two weeks). Hadn't done any updates to the OS or installed any apps, but suddenly the battery life on both my Moto X and Nexus 7 (2013) started getting worse.

I booted into recovery and cleared the cache partition. Seems to have brought the tablet's battery life back to as good as it used to be. Hard to say so far if the same is observed on the Moto X, but it seems to be a bit better than the last week or so.

Wonder if something tied to the google account (since both devices were exhibiting the same problem of high CPU time on android OS) was the cause?
[Moto X General] vipergts450:
I've read every single post in this thread since it started. I've been following it, waiting for the eureka breakthrough which hasn't come. Not trying to sound defensive, and I appreciate what you guys are saying, but you need to recognize the frustration it causes to see some people with ideal idle conditions and being unable to replicate it. On the flip side, the fact that this thread made it to so many posts suggests there really isn't a true fix in software. Is it then a logical next step to suggest that some models (maybe specific manufacturing dates?) have hardware issues that are exacerbated in the 4.4 and 4.4.2 updates?
[Moto X General] Kittiesoncrack:
yup. Im in the same boat, thats why im using my gnex for music
[Moto X General] rda990:
14 min away from getting a full 24 hours with 4 hours of SOT!! Compared to what I was getting earlier this week it's great. Just need to get rid of that Kernel and Android OS from the top 2 spots.
[Moto X General] :
Awesome! Glad to hear it!

I'm near breaking battery records on my n5 on day number 3 with it. Guess I'm just lucky with phones and batteries. Lol
[Moto X General] rda990:
Thanks! What battery says are you getting on the N5? SOT? % lost while you're sleeping?
[Moto X General] :
3rd day on n5. Started this discharge with 6 hours of airplane mode while I slept, 0.4 % per hour drain. And here I am with 20 percent left. Unfortunately I gotta charge it now when I go to bed. Pretty sure I'd hit over 6 hour screen time..
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I finally cracked the code!

That's what I call amazing battery life with everything ON!

Forget gsam, forget bbs, forget rooting, forget freezing, forget greenifying, just go to Settings > Apps and slide to Running apps and check which app is running and is not supposed to be running, I found Navigator in there even though I haven't started it and it's not supposed to be running because it doesn't sync or have push notifications, so I force stopped it and bam, my battery life went back to how it was on 4.2.2!

This rogue app hasn't been probably optimized for KK yet and all this time I was banging my head against the wall thinking there's something wrong with the OS!

Those screenshots are with some voice calls, viber calls and a hangouts video call!

I can easily get 25-30 hrs on 1 charge now :D
[Moto X General] @home:
No such app on my moto x, no navigator running, so I don't know how you have? my battery is still kak.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Navigator doesn't come pre-installed on the Moto X, it's a 3rd party app that you install from the Play Store. It must be another rogue app causing ur battery drain, post ur running apps here to see if i can help u find it.
[Moto X General] syntrix:
NFL mobile is running on mine, I've never used that, nor care about it.

Same with the VZW sync Service, Moto Care, and a few others.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I wouldn't worry about anything Moto or Carrier related because I don't believe those apps would be rogue and haven't been rigorously tested to be optimized for KK.

Regarding NFL Mobile, if u never use it and don't care about it, I would recommend force stopping it or uninstalling it. It would be definitely draining ur battery if it's always running in the background even if it's not a rogue app and might not be causing a huge drain...
[Moto X General] imnuts:
Better since the 4.4.2 update :)

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] tango41:
I have searched for my answer but can't seem to find a thread. For us without root what apps do we need to disable? Don't want a list, just the thread where the info is located (if one exists).

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] conquesoextra:
If I'm not wrong, you can't disable them whitout root. Simply as that.

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[Moto X General] mmikeee:
You are wrong my friend haha. Go into settings/apps/all apps and find those that you want to disable and there's a disable button if it's a system app.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
Only partially wrong, some systems apps can't be disabled at all (without root). But most of the battery killers can be.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Forgot to post about this. This seems to only happen when location is on. But it usually causes an extra stand by drain upto 1.7-2%/hr when it's happening. Need more testing to be sure it's location. But if your getting this extra drain. Reboot.

It will come back randomly. :(

I call it 10% CPU spikes.
[Moto X General] dedei:
Managed to get 5 hours of SOT #flawless

BUT I noticed that my phone would magically gain 3% of battery and when it gets to 10%, it falls straight to 4%, skipping the other values. I'm using faux kernel and a custom boot logo. Any ideas? I already deleted the battery bin file.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Known issue. Moto calls it a 'smoothing effect'......
[Moto X General] Pwnicorn:
Just wanted to update and to ask if anyone may know why my phone was held awake so long? I just tried out the wake lock detector app (very nice) and if I'm reading it right (which is very possible I may not) it looks like google search may be it. I had wacky good battery life before (about 1% an hour on standby). I turned off "keep awake" for the location requesting apps which helped in the past. I also greenified apps that don't need to run in the background. Not sure what it was, as it sat on my desk most of the day without me touching it.
[Moto X General] Pwnicorn:
Pics didn't upload - here they are. Also, to help, it's running 4.4.2 KANGAKAT which is good for battery and stock kernel (of course), plenty of Xposed.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
Router Battery Drain Issue

I will start a thread if this guy nails it down or if people test this out and find it solves their problem for the moto x.

I just happen to have this router so im on the forums over there and this guy could have just made a lot of your days.

If you have battery drain caused by your router look check out this link and see if it helps. I will be testing out over the next couple of days but my router battery drain issue isn't as bad as it used to be after switching to eclipse so I'm not sure my testing will actually work.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/forums/showthread.php?p=108245#post108245
[Moto X General] tango41:
Seems to be getting better.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
So after a week of not being able to duplicate this I begin checking what apps constantly ran in the background. First moto care was waking the phone on average about an hour per night even though the app was disabled. Second the app Media Utilities would not hibernate using greenify app. Finally Motorola service also seem to wake lock the phone a bit as well. So I uninstalled media utilities and forced stopped all Motorola stuff and here's what I got for now. Will test again tonight to make sure.

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[Moto X General] :
Do you guys need customers so bad you have to keep making accounts here and pushing your products? LOL

Zero lemon is terrible. ;)