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[Moto X General] :
Well, try what you can of my advice not rooted....gsam not rooted is fine ...just won't be able to see some of the screens I mentioned. But will still help better than the stock usage screens.

I'm certain your drain is a combo of location services and the apps using it tho. See how it is off a day, and all syncing if you can. For comparison.

Another note, many have found that some apps that haven't been updated since kit kat (play store shows last time they were updated) can kill batteries too. They've uninstalled the out dated apps and boom.....better battery just like that.

Good luck! ;)

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[Moto X General] yekollu:
Beast

My battery performance after i disabled the Email app,Touchless control, Facebook and Calendar.

Also i noticed that GSam Battery Monitor was polling the battery at regular intervals, removed it as well
[Moto X General] :
Gsam will not effect your battery life. And its extremely useful finding issues. Tho, if you're worried....just keep it in mind if you develop an issue. The stock battery usage feature isn't very helpful finding problems.

Just my 2 cents. ;)

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I'm one of the people who advocates not using outdated apps. Just more proof for the non believers. I also want to point out that the majority of my held awake time is Google play music in the car. That's what you guys should strive for if you want longevity from your battery.

Location usually off, no apps that haven't been updated since kit kat. I also only install apps one at a time now, if I notice drain it goes away. I'm of the mentality that I need a phone to last my full day no matter what. I can always install an app, use it, then uninstall again.

Moto X developer edition
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Did you use a different kernel ? Because I've noticed that you have not wakelock of kernel or Android os

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Nope, all stock T-Mobile, on T-Mobile with a Dev edition.

Moto X developer edition
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
well seems like I have a different version of kernel maybe is for that, but for what I can see doesn't change significantly the whole battery performance, at least, not so much like I've believed before, thanks

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Enabling restrict data and letting your moto sit idle actually reduces Android OS below Phone Idle. And I believe I know why.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Not sure why my kernel would be different, I'm on 4.4.2 T-Mobile via OTA.

[MENTION=222830]ram[/MENTION] I just realized that you can restrict background data on apps individually. That could come in handy. If you feel like sharing your theory I'd be happy to help test it.

Moto X developer edition
[Moto X General] jp1044:
Please do share...and will disabling certain apps instead of all of them have the same effect?
[Moto X General] chayan18885:
Restricting Data will definitely reduce consumption. But would you love to trade off? That is the question.

About the apps. Depends on which one you are disabling. The apps that keep your phone awake or use radio will consume more rather than an app that requires less of access.
[Moto X General] noriyori:
I've been doing pretty good since installing battery guru. Took a long time to learn my habits but since it's been working I've gone from about 12-13 hours per charge. Now I'm consistently going almost 2 days.
[Moto X General] :
How many screen hours? 2 days is nice for sure....but I'm guessing its very light use. You're android os is seriously high. Get that lower and you'll see some fair improvement. ;)

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[Moto X General] noriyori:
Only about 3 hours of screen time. Mostly all I've done in the last day was about an hour on the phone, a walk listening to music (streaming) via Bluetooth and frequent email, text and group me. I've kept everything on, Bluetooth, 4g, WiFi... Maybe that's what is using up all the android system?

Either way I'm getting better than double battery life with battery guru so I'm happy ?
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
Wow I do the same thing but it lasts me 20h with 3hrs SOT :| (I used to get 24 hours with 5h SOT :/ )
[Moto X General] :
Yeah.. Unless you're battery gets worse, I wouldn't worry much. 2 days and 3 hours screen is really quite good. ;)

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[Moto X General] ram130:
So second reset. Couple weeks in. Everything on except I haven't enabled touch less. Restored my apps data for 118 apps and my held awake went back up along with Android OS but not too much.

Did the restricted data thing for all apps. Interesting results. Total is 1hr screen on.
[Moto X General] iOSanjay:
does motog fair better in terms of battery life ?
[Moto X General] :
Nice! ;)

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Yes. Its a battery beast!! Lesser phone tho for sure. Great bang for the buck tho. ;)

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[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
I uninstalled Clash of Clans and noticed a significant increase in battery.. Games drain a lot.. probably cause it was causing me to use my phone a lot more too. I got a full day with 3.5 hrs SOT which is like a record for me haha. now I also don't waste time playing it anymore! haha

But its up to us what kind of tradeoffs we want to make..
[Moto X General] sylarm:
Yes, My sister have one Moto g and the battery is incredible.

This is because "Andriod OS" consumes more or less 7 -8%, not 20-30%.

But our phone still in the average.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
I have a battery.. it's works very good...
[Moto X General] justpastfinish:
Pretty good here on 4.4.2
[Moto X General] sylarm:
Yes very good. Android OS with low consumption.

What the version of your moto x?
[Moto X General] justpastfinish:
Verizon version. 32gig. It didn't last long. After some messing around I'm at around 30% android os. But still around the 5.5 hour screen on time mark. Those pics were from my first full day with my x
[Moto X General] ConstantHero:
Best so far after flashing Krypton, screen shots were taken immediately after boot at 3-4% from 0% dead. (*Gaps/Break in network are airplane mode*) bad signal at work. Location turned off, ADM turned off unchecked.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
All are unchecked ? All are tuned off ? :confused::confused:
[Moto X General] ConstantHero:
Yes
[Moto X General] Jason.DROID:
Excellent, for the most part. Had a week of drain after a data reset with full data restore (from adb) sans system apks, but it settled down.

Achieved a personal best SOT of 6h 33m, but here's some images on ART the next day. Slightly lower, but still excellent.

ADM enabled

ADisplay enabled (no sleep time set)

TC enabled

Wifi set to sleep

Location disabled most of the time (used as needed)

Facebook set to not refresh in background

Uninstalled old, potentially incompatible apps
[Moto X General] ram130:
Try doing all of that again without WiFi. :)
[Moto X General] Guadalupeohara:
I am also off my all connection with battery, such as light, camera flash light, internet connection etc.. Now just call go and out. Therefore my battery life is now safe..:p
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
That's simple.. What are you talking about ?

I think if you switched off your Mobile then your battery is always safe.. HA ha.. :mad:
[Moto X General] Guadalupeohara:
Yeah.. Just enjoy yourself..
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Thanks :rolleyes:
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
For the first time ever :) and this was a surprise :) normally it would've died by 1d 0h but this time it somehow gave me extra time :D WiFi on all the time although reception is pretty weak. Mobile data off since I'm on 2G. Location off. a display and TC on :) Google now on as well no adm
[Moto X General] Guadalupeohara:
Ok That's finish..:good:
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Ok buddy..:(
[Moto X General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Mines doing pretty good
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
Hey, you mentioned that the phone app's wakelock issues were caused by voicemail? How so? Any idea how to mitigate the problem?

Cheers.
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
That's a super solid idea. Could we start a thread where those who seem to have "unresolvable" battery issues (which, by consensus, seem to have originated from some difference between 4.4.2 and 4.4) post the manufacture date on their phone? Is that even something we can find? If sufficient numbers of people have a real problem, could that get it some attention from Motorola?

I know the exact frustration you're talking about--it's exacerbated by the fact that I'm on a locked VZW bootloader without root, so there's this nagging sense that if I had the extra control of my device provided by root, or the insights, particularly partial wakelocks, I might be able to reach that eureka moment. Hasn't come. Ugh.
[Moto X General] :
If battery is that bad....turn everything off. Location , sync, gnow...etc. Keep screen dim.

If none of that helps, it leaves 2 options. Bad signal, or rogue app.

No issue can't be solved if you dig deep enough. There's no saviour coming from Google... Trust me. :)

No troubleshooting.... A lot in some cases......no fix.

Where's the gsam screens???? :)
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
Full disclosure: I'm running on a Motorola Droid Mini right now--and I've had similar issues with my battery life. Many of the same problems. This phone is fairly definitively broken for me. Physically, because I dropped it and cracked the glass, and the LED camera flash doesn't work at all. That much is definitely on me. But something is definitely wrong, software-wise, too. I thought I had fixed my battery, briefly. And by fixed, I mean I went from unusably bad (we're talking 4-5hrs of mixed light-intermediate use before my phone would be <10% battery life, with ~40minutes of SOT) to tolerable--where I could make it through the day, and charge overnight. Then something happened, and I REALLY am at a loss here as to what, but magically, my battery drain disappeared after I changed one of the Advanced Wi-Fi settings (I think I forced it to use the 2.4GHz band). Or so I thought.

What I realized thereafter was that my phone couldn't play sounds, or video. It wouldn't play out any sort of audio stuff, nor could I input stuff using the mic--no voice recognition for anything, no capturing videos with the camera (stills worked though). This behavior persisted, and I also realized that when I went in to the settings, the option to turn on Touchless Control (which was off) didn't work--I'd hit the button to check the box and turn it on and it wouldn't do anything. Reboot the phone into safe mode, and weird, now I can turn on touchless control, and then, (this part is janky and I haven't been able to pin it down why it's so intermittent).

Turning on Touchless Control, then rebooting normally, sometimes does the trick in terms of letting me use my phone (for media related stuff, but the other input that didn't work was using the freaking phone to make calls)-but it brings back the battery drain. So I'm stuck with a phone that I can use for 6 hours, tops, that gets an idle drain of around 14% per hour. If I play around with switching between safe mode and normal, and switching TC on/off variously, I can sometimes manipulate my phone in a usable way, but not very consistently, and when it isn't working, I can't make calls, which is a biggie.

Oh, and I've hard reset the phone a couple times too. Doesn't seem to make a difference. Anyhow, I've reached the conclusion that through either my own abuse or manufacturer error, my particular phone is a lemon that I would need to send to Motorola to have fixed. It's $175 bucks +shipping for that, so I thought I might as well buy a Moto X and replace it. It'll get here tomorrow, and from what I've seen, even when its battery life is bad, it's at least pretty functional for a day's use.

I know you have preached battery austerity throughout this thread as one reason people suffer from poor battery life--they want to have their delicious "feature/high use-righ" cake, and eat it too. That's not me. I don't need my phone to last more than 8-12 hours a charge. I just want it to satisfy my needs. It looks like the Moto X will do that. I've given up on my Mini. If I have the same issues everyone's been seeing, you'll see me again--hopefully not.
[Moto X General] :
Yeah, I'd definitely go for the x in your situation. Lol

And IF you have battery troubles....you know where to come.

I'd still be extremely curious to see what gsam shows on your phone tho. 40 minutes screen time is crazy.;)

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And you should get 12 hours running fully loaded!! If not....it would be a bad app exploiting location or sync or something. :)
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
Yeah, Something is pretty messed up with my phone. Oh, and in the interest of science, I'll see if I can't throw up some screens for you in the next couple days. Also, screwed up--I'm only running 4.4, not 4.4.2 on my Mini. VZW is mad slow with the updates.

(Although honestly, if my X arrives tomorrow like it should, I may never get back to you). I went crazy with battery austerity measures for a while, realized that something was still keeping my phone awake, and found that the overall differences tended to be far minor than the weird switching audio stuff on and off I sort of described above. So my settings now are kind of at a "screw it, my battery is probably going to suck only slightly less if I don't use these features. But yeah, anyhow. I hope
[Moto X General] :
An average....of course there's always exceptions, but on average if you comb through this thread.....you'd probably see 3 to 4 screen hours and 15 overall, with everything on. With everything off, 28 hours and 6 plus screen hours.

Of course a some things on some off will get you around the middle. Lol

Good luck and enjoy your x! ;)
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
See, those stats sounds just fine to me. Looking forward to it!
[Moto X General] :
Nothing wrong with everything on. Everyone has different needs battery wise.

As long as the everything on folks aren't comparing their stats to everything off folks and saying their battery sucks.....which happens a lot. Lol

Enjoy your new toy!! Awesome phone!!
[Moto X General] Intrepit:
I find that my battery is draining quite quickly. :/
[Moto X General] :
Need gsam screen shots to help. ;)
[Moto X General] Ryno77:
Anyone know exactly what causes this modalityservice wakelock? I've noticed the days this is high I get really bad battery life.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Get a developers edition. It will make your life so so so... Much easier on vzw. I left them for T-Mobile, lower bills and Nexus 5 which I sold and kept my X LOL. If I were to go back I would only get developer edition devices.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
http://bit.ly/1lSOBxg
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
ROFL. I haven't seen someone use one of those in awhile.
[Moto X General] :
If you're rooted, freeze it with titanium backup.

Or you could use TB to convert it to a user app and greenify it, if you actually use it.
[Moto X General] Ryno77:
Lol, thanks for your help.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
I see Wakelock caused by voice-mail..
[Moto X General] boyz_ankur:
Okay, here is my experience. Not much to add to what has been covered in this thread quite exhaustively, but what has kept me from banging my head against the wall :eek: post purchase of Moto X despite having a perfectly working Sony Xperia U on Custom with lulzactiveq governor to give me superb battery life (yes!, on 1050 mah I was getting more than a day with middle weight use [add: 4-5 hours screen time easy on 3G browsing along with other activities] :victory:). So you guys can understand my pain as I face it. :(

I would not claim ideal conditions but after reading through all the tweaks, all the possible combinations and stuff, and all the weird settings, here is what worked for me to give a decent 18-20 hours backup with 3-4 Hrs SOT (I heard you guys :highfive:, the ones with really really bad backup [read: 2 hrs SOT with 8-10 hrs avg life):

All steps advised to be performed on fresh stock (do a factory reset if possible):

1. Disable location settings from google settings (In fact, disable all location settings from wherever possible: Settings>Location; Security>Device Administrators>Android Device Manager); Reboot phone immediately once all is done

2. Disable Google+ from Apps>Downloaded and if Hangouts is not your primary chat app then disable that as well since every once in a while it automatically signs in and starts draining battery)

3. Disable Google Now (search and other functions work very well even without it being active)

4. Wipe Cache by entering recovery as mentioned a few times in this thread itself

5. I had read somewhere and although I personally do not prefer using a battery saver app, but to manage my pain I installed Battery Doctor and it does exactly what I would do manually: cut the data use for apps on sleep for certain amount of time (maybe a cycle of some sorts, I didn't care to go into details)
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All in all, I have managed to survive the pain initially given by a loved purchase.

Will keep the details posted.
[Moto X General] Jumnhy:
As in, when you have a voicemail waiting for you as a notification you get a wakelock from the phone? ... I have a bad habit of leaving my voicemail unchecked for long periods... :(

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Got my x from the post office this morning! Wayyy too early to say what my battery will be like but so far I'm liking the phone. Used to the moto droid mini, so the software end is mad similar, but it's obvious that this phone has a few advantages, especially in terms of Motorola support and cool little tweaks like the boot animations. I'll report in once I use this thing for a few days.
[Moto X General] shanks.k:
RW Battery Issues

I'm on a Republic Wireless Moto X. I have noticed some issues with the phone being awake when not connected to wifi.

I'm assuming that something is attempting to gain data access but fails due to the RW lock, since I'm on the no-data plan.

I've attached a few images/dumps from Better Battery as well.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?
[Moto X General] :
Well, the first screen your phone was almost constantly awake. Next screen, its fine. So whatever you did between those screen shots helped, A LOT.

And screen shots are preferred here. All that BBS text just hurt my brain. Lol
[Moto X General] ram130:
Looks like its the PowerManager Service bug that's fixed in 4.4.3. I don't get the same bug even with data restricted. So a reboot should help or ...a reset.
[Moto X General] shanks.k:
Thanks for the heads up. I'll give that a shot.

And sorry for the BBS stats. I'm an engineer and love the data :laugh:
[Moto X General] ram130:
No worries. I've been using that app since my N1 days. Now not so much.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
Anyway to clear phone cache without being rooted?
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Yes, you can do it from stock recovery...
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Suddenly, I am getting terrible battery drain. 5 hours off charge, 3 hours Android OS keep awake and only 10 minutes screen on time and I am at 78%. I have changed nothing. Wakelock detector shows Google Search as being waken up many times...I have had Google Now on for months and never had any issues. I just Greenified Google Search to see if that helps, but any suggestions?
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Are you on 4.4 or 4.4.2?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
check out your kernel wakelocks and see if bam_dmux is keeping it awake a lot.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Just wanted to query if my battery life is normal or not.

I charged it to 100% last night (phone turned off whilst charging) at around midnight then went to bed after turning it on.

This morning I spent 5 minutes on Twitter and checked my notifications which took me around 1 minute.

My battery was at 73%. Wondering if this is normal or not?

In regards to my settings:

My GPS is set to Battery Saver

Assist features are turned off apart from Sleeping Mode

Brightness is always at the lowest setting

Bluetooth, NFC, Data, etc all off as normal

WiFi and Sync are always on and never turned off unless I'm away from my access point.

All notifications are turned off apart from SMS, WhatsApp & Email.

The only other app that is always running is Power Toggles which gives a battery percentage indicator in my status bar and a bunch of toggle options accessible from my notification bar. Could this be sapping my battery life?

Google Location Reporting was turned on too so I turned it off this morning to see if it helps.

Also I installed QualComm Battery Guru a few days ago but it's not made much difference so far so have just uninstalled it.

Currently the battery is at 48% with 1 hour SOT.
[Moto X General] Ryno77:
The latest Google search update has made the Nlpcollectorwakelock go crazy on my phone. Screen is still taking up the most usage for me but it's closely followed by Android OS and then Google Services. As if I didn't have enough problems with the out of control android OS crap, now Google is fighting to kill even more battery. I'm highly annoyed with how crappy my battery life has gotten on this phone. I've tried shutting off the things listed in this thread and it helps but until recently my battery life was fine with everything on.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
Most likely an app issue. Guess an check with apps. Starting with the obscure ones less people use then working your way from there.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Are you talking about apps that are loaded in memory? As in Settings>Apps>Running?

Battery now at 41% and SOT now on 1h 17m.

Just switched off NFC to see if it helps.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
yes it would be a running app.

just realized that widgets might be doing it as well but i would assume that those would be listed under running apps as well but not 100% on that one. wouldn't take long to figure out though
[Moto X General] sixthgun:
Got my Moto X yesterday and experienced battery draining from about 25% to 0% in less than a minute twice already. I wonder if it's just because it's new?
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
My screenshots of running apps. Anything out of the ordinary?
[Moto X General] sixthgun:
And strangely, after few minutes of posting my battery went from 13% to 18% without even charging...
[Moto X General] :
You need to check wake locks and held awake time in gsam. Also your bad signal isn't helping.

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Get gsam....run down a full charge, without rebooting...cause gsam will reset.

Check held awake time and wake locks.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Clear cache partition from stock recovery:

Power off phone (be sure to turn off fast reboot in settings first). Boot into recovery by holding volume-down key and then holding power key until boot menu appears. Volume down to RECOVERY and tap power to select. HTC logo appears followed by a blank, dim screen. Now, tap all three together: power, volume up and down, and release immediately. You may have to repeat this until you get the timing just right. Black screen appears and sd card error message scrolls. After about ten seconds, recovery menu appears (all in very small font). Volume-down to "wipe cache partition" at bottom of list and tap power key. Cache gets cleared. Then select "reboot system now" by tapping power key again. Done!

Device will now be a little snappier and some quirky behavior that sometimes develops is fixed. May want to do this every month or so to keep things running better, or if device behaving strangely and you want to try a quick fix that may work.
[Moto X General] :
HTC?????????????

My friend, have you been in the wrong forum all this time? ;)
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
No No.. It just mistake... Thanks for remind it..