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[Moto X General] ducthinhvip:
batterry

My batterry used 4h when I watching TV Mobile:D
[Moto X General] rman18:
Verizon version here... I lose 5% at night.
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Actually, Touchless Control is OFF in those screenshots above (I never had a use for it so I haven't had it on). The Touchless control runs off another core so I don't think that's the reason idle drain is worse. The screenshots show an order of magnitude greater wakelocks relating to Google Services than anything else.

I think it has to do with the Location Services / GNow integration but I am not entirely sure which part. Today, I manually disabled Google Now (Wifi Location services are still on) and Android OS is only ~6% so far. I'll see how this affects idle drain overnight.

It should be noted that when I was using my HTC One GPe with Android 4.3, the Android OS % was very high (usually 30+%) but idle drain was still EXCELLENT. Thus, I am not sure what's going on here.
[Moto X General] seanmcd72:
First day (Friday) I went from 8am off charger, until midnight with 20% or so left. Maybe 30 minutes of phone calls and constant use, including passing the phone around to coworkers and having several people opening the browser and youtube.

In other words - IT ROCKS
[Moto X General] Droyyd:
Can't wait to see the possible battery performance of this phone with a custom kernel in it =) (optimized for the X8 system of course)

Still waiting on the Developer Edition...
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
I went to bed around 1130-12 am, woke up at 530 am and lost about 10 percent of battery, looks like Android OS/Kernel is the culprit.

EDIT: Went to chat with Motorola because my cat won't let me sleep anyways. They blamed the wifi radio and the screen display...even though I keep it face down, when I mentioned that previous devices haven't had this issue...they were like "Whelp, thems the breaks"

It should also be noted that their chat support sucks various things. But I've also had some issues with the wifi radio in the phone as well, maybe someone can mention these issues to the Moto guy on G+ that's been getting great results.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Poor idle drain is an issue that lots of people have complained of unfortunately. WiFi though? I don't think that could possibly be the problem. I think it has something to do with android OS and/or android system usage being so high for so many people.

-Sent from my Droid Mini.-
[Moto X General] robstunner:
I was having huge kernel usage, it was reporting on gsam at 25% of overall battery drain. I did a factory reset today and everything looks much better, however I haven't set up the"OK Google now" feat yet
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I just had to do a factory reset too. After all the praise I was singing about the battery, yesterday I started to see huge kernel usage with 2-3%/hr idle battery drain. Setting my phone up again right now, hopefully that'll clear it up.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Yea, I wasnt using my phone at all yesterday as I was driving back and forth most of the day. Literally 12 hours off charge, with 56min SOT got me down to %40's.
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
Let us know if that works in a couple of days...since that's how long it took to take effect right?

Still getting impressive battery life even with the problems, once we get it fixed....who knows.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
1 day 2 hours at 41% with just over 2 hours screen time.
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
I turn off location entirely and my kernel and android system drain go away. How do I keep them on without killing my battery?
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
In my experience GPS only is better than battery saver. Give that a shot

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[Moto X General] Infinite7154:
This is stock everything. Spent the last 3 hours on Facebook, texting and candy krush. The only thing turned off is GPS. Phone is on vibrate during work running mighty text and playing stored music on commute to and from work. Gmail, Google+ sync on WiFi.

Sent from my Black Moto X!
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Every night for the past 4 days, I've left my X off the charger when going to sleep (on purpose). Wake up to a dead phone every night (~50% battery when I go to sleep).

Installing better battery stats to find out what is murdering the battery. For reference, my Nexus 5 (yes I have both) loses only ~8% overnight off charger.

Same apps installed on both.
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
What have you disabled with app ops?
[Moto X General] fury683:
The only thing I really use fine GPS location for is Maps/Navigation. I don't do it super often, so enabling it then wouldn't be so bad. I switched it to battery saver mode for the time being. May need to figure out a Tasker profile to toggle it when I open Maps, but keep it on when Maps is in the background or something...
[Moto X General] murso74:
my phone battery has taken a complete dump the last few days.. i'm not rooted so BBS is telling me nothing. i've deleted any app that i've installed these last few days and i'm still losing about 13% an hour. all the battery app is telling me is that Android OS is taking up 39% and google play services is taking 26%. phone gets hot a lot. not sure where to go with this.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
As far as app ops. I basically turned off access to stuff I didn't believe an app needs access to. Took forever, but the results speak for themselves. P.S. I was shocked to see how many apps had access to location for no reason

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[Moto X General] fury683:
If you're rooted, check out App Ops X by Color Tiger.
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
What about these location services?
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Which of those do you think need access to location? It's all based on what you use. I didn't focus on location cause I keep gps off except when I need it. My main focus was apps having permissions they would never need, and having the ability to keep my phone awake which they also didn't need. As far as app opps you have to use your judgment cause you use your phone differently.

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[Moto X General] :
Christmas day and boxing day I got over 48 hours on my Moto.... Only 2 hours screen time.... But at least I know I can go camping or whatever and last a couple days without a charger.... With light use. My S2 could never do that. Standby only.... But not with a couple hours screen time too. :)

Very glad I didn't buy a G2 just cause of its battery. :)

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[Moto X General] tigim101:
What about all the Motorola services for App Ops, do I need any of those? I just want to be able to use Active Notifications and Touchless Control, but theres a lot of other motorola stuff that can keep the phone awake.
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
Well, 3rd day, second full cycle and on Canadian Rogers 4.2.2. Currently, very happy.

All bell and whistles are on. WiFi, GPS, BlueTooth for my car, mostly WiFi else on super fast LTE, assist, Now, etc. What's the point getting Moto X if I'm not using Google Now or GPS or any other features?
[Moto X General] rockingondrums:
Damn Google Calendar Storage. Waking up the device too much! 11 hours of battery and 1 hour of SOT. Ugh. Going to see if I can use App Ops to turn off it's Keep Awake ability.
[Moto X General] :
A very old practise I've always kept doing, no matter what Android device I have.. Is to Reboot every single time I unplug my charger. Doing that can sometimes stop things from going nuts and keeping my phone awake.

Try it guys.... Especially if you have things holding your phone awake. It only takes seconds and could stop some of your issues. ;)

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And here is a screen from yesterday..... Best I've had so far. :)

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No games played. Never expect even 5 hours if you play some games. They chew up the battery.

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[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
A day after getting 6+ hrs SOT on a charge, I barely got 14hrs total. Viber, WhatsApp, and Tapatalk combined to wreck the battery with thousands of runs (according to Greenify) each. :crying:
[Moto X General] :
I wouldn't be so sure that they are the culprits. Do you have gsam? Is your phone being held awake? Check it out if you can. Check held awake times in gsam. I have bbm... It wakes device like 400 times a day... But held awake time is minuscule. Not effecting my battery much.

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[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
PS: my post above includes some playing with Into The Dead and Dead Trigger 2.

Again. Unrooted. All stock.

What are you guys doing with your phone???
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
The Rogers 4.2.2 build does seem to be very good on battery. Maybe we don't want them to release 4.4 after all...
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
all i wanted is camera improvement and transparent notification bar... other than that, i'm happy with 4.2.2.

camera pretty decent so far too.
[Moto X General] koocheese:
I'm not doing as well as you guys (gals) are but not the worse I've ever had on an android.

Rogers 4.2.2, unlocked to run on telus.

My moto is made in China, but so are all Rogers moto x's.

Gonna install gsam and see what's going on.

Don't know why pics aren't showing, I'll figure it out later.

Funny to see others who had the s2 before this as well, my previous

Was nexus 4.
[Moto X General] nvertigo:
GSAM is just going to say Android Kernel os probably
[Moto X General] :
Android OS always seems to be first on the list. That's not usually the issue.... Wake locks are. I've seen guys here with over 4 hours in wake locks... That's crazy. In over 24 hours I never get over an hour. :)

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[Moto X General] :
Gsam on 4.4 apparently no longer requires root. ;)

But it does say if you're rooted you'll get more detailed stats. Whatever that means. Lol

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[Moto X General] tigim101:
Anyone mind posting their GSAM battery percentage and battery temperature graph?
[Moto X General] :
Here go... Over a day on this charge so far....

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[Moto X General] Butcher98:
I'll take 20 hours with 6 screen time any day of the week. Was on wifi most of the day.
[Moto X General] liveMike:
stand by mode with LTE/Sync ON - easily 2+ days

with normal use and calling - easily 1+ days (as in 24+ hours). I honestly cant seem to drain the battery. At night with white noise on all night it will only drain like 10-20%.

Compared to my gnex this phone get about 8x the battery life. I have the dev edition, rooted, stock+xposed. I have limited widgets - chronus calendar only. I also turn off all my apps after each use. And I use greenify to take care of facebook, etc.
[Moto X General] fury683:
So I've been trying to pin down what has been holding my Moto X awake for the last week or two and after the GSAM update this weekend, I'm not sure anything really was. I went from seeing 4-5 hours held awake time in a day to only about 45 minutes yesterday. Granted I didn't use Pandora at all over the weekend (which I do for roughly two hours on a normal week day for my commute), but having a drop of 4 hours seems a little crazy to me.

I'm wondering if GSAM fixed a bug somewhere or was doubling up on some stats. I had noticed before that in the held awake time under App Sucker "System (*wakelock*)" or Pandora would be either number 1 or number 2 on top of the list. The time for Pandora matched the time for AudioMix under system wakelock.

Not sure why it would report that usage twice... Today it's at about 35 minutes held awake already after about an hour off charger, but that 35 minutes is about how long I was in the car. I'll let it go today without changing anything and see how it does on normal usage.

I was (sort of) taking [MENTION=4036181]kj2112[/MENTION] and made a Tasker profile to reboot my phone at 4am if it was plugged in to power just to flush stuff out overnight, but was getting annoyed that my notifications would wipe for some apps, and had no obvious reduction in held awake time.

I'll post later tonight or tomorrow with my results under "normal" daily usage conditions.
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
:good::good::good:
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
Here's mine again. This time a bit more gaming and lots of YouTube for my daughter's in-car entertainment.

Looks like on average about 4hr screen time with about an hour of it is pure gaming. Not too shabby.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yep. To get nice screen on. Leave WiFi on and connected.

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Can you open App Ops and take a pic of the location part.
[Moto X General] :
I'm on 4.2.2....isn't app ops for kit kat?

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Oh. My bad.
[Moto X General] jwthompson:
Murdered it today

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[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
[MENTION=2404483]ram130[/MENTION], any heads up on the 4.4.2 Update? Have they made any progress on the KK battery drain issues? Do u know the ETA?

Thanks
[Moto X General] ram130:
The team is on holiday time off. So can't do anything until they are back. They deserve it.
[Moto X General] gskelter:
Google now, wifi, facebook, whatsapp etc...no greenify because i notice battery drain with greenify

And after appops

Enviado desde mi moto X XT1053
[Moto X General] ram130:
What was the screen on after app ops and did you see much improvements?
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
Le me trying to kill the battery by playing 1080p movies with MX player on HW+.
[Moto X General] apurba_ron:
Battery life

Actually the only system apps I have greenified are maps and youtube. I didn't touch google search or play services
[Moto X General] :
I'm pretty sure bad things happen if you freeze google play services. Probably if you greenify it too. :)

So good call!

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[Moto X General] fury683:
Really curious how people can be getting 1 day+ battery life and the best I can manage is around 14-17 hours. I used Greenify on a ton of stuff, but still have a few apps that I keep on for syncing, that don't seem to hold the device awake.

I just don't get how it can be so vastly different with (seemingly) similar usage/screen on time. Unless you guys are literally turning off every aspect of the phone that makes it useful, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm on WiFi nearly the entire day (only off it when I drive to and from work), and have a few apps that use a data, but usually only when they're open. Exchange uses push, as does my personal email app.

I just adjusted Exchange to poll at 30 minutes and my email app to 15 minutes. I want to believe this phone can be awesome, but right now I'm settling for a cool phone that (barely) lasts through a normal day. I can't imagine trying to take it on vacation or be away from WiFi like I did easily with my Razr Maxx.
[Moto X General] :
Detailed gsam screen shots near end of your charge cycle would be helpful to see why.

Like, main gsam screen... Display detail screen (showing brightness levels) ... App sucker screen, kernel wake lock screen, time held awake screen and times waking device screen.

If your playing games.... Then there's the problem. Same on any phone... They suck the battery twice as fast as anything else.... Except maybe Gps navigation... That's a killer too.

Screen shot all the above and we'll see what's up. ;)

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[Moto X General] fury683:
Thanks, I really appreciate the help. I'll take some today. The only game I have on my phone is Tiny Tower, and I have it Greenified. I run it a few times a day for only a few minutes (enough to stock/order stuff), and did disable location for it in App Ops (why would it need location anyway?), but it's really low on usage anyway.

The stuff thing I do use a lot is Twitter. I use Plume, which seems to be very battery friendly. I have 15 minute polling in the background and live streaming when the app is open. I check it pretty often, but don't leave the app open for any long periods of time. Facebook/Instagram/Snapchat and other similar apps are Greenified. I'll include screenshots of that too.

I know one thing that does drive up my held awake time is Pandora. I listen to it in the car on the way to and from work, so obviously the phone has to stay awake when that is running, but that's really only 2 hours a day at the very most. I've seen held awake times in the 4-5+ hour range.

I disabled Location History in Google settings (I think that's the one it was..), but like the location services that Google Now has, so I don't want to ditch that if I can help it..

I'll just use it today and see what I get. Thanks again!
[Moto X General] :
We'll see what your screen shots show.

But, if it were me with a battery issue... I'd turn off location services all together, and Google Now, and freeze all sorts of stuff in titanium backup... Especially all the Motorola stuff. Everything Motorola ... Aside from active display, cause I've tried it on and off, battery was not effected. Hopefully you'd then get 24 hours or so.... With at least 5 hours screen time. Then I'd bring things back one or two at a time each day, until something drains my battery again... And now I'd know the exact culprit.

If you're already getting 4 to 6 hours screen time, I'd stop worrying right there. Cause it depends how long it takes you to get 5 hours screen time... For me it's 24 hoursish... For someone else it could be 12 hours to get 5 sot.... So really total battery time comparisons are really useless. It's more about the screen time. Held awake time too... Weather it's music playing or whatever... Cause held awake time will decrease your screen time. And lastly, brightness... Run your screen at 80 percent all day and I'll bet you'll be lucky to get 3 hours screen time. I use lux and my maximum is set at 35 percent. So unless I put lux to sleep, my phone will never go above 35 percent brightness on its own. I may try a day running at say 50 constantly, then 75,then 100...And see how they compare and what happens to my 24 hours with 5 hours sot average that I've been having.

:)

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[Moto X General] sm753:
My screen time versus total "up time" on a charge isn't that great compared to what I'm seeing here. But it's still easily 2x-3x what I was seeing on my old phone so in that sense, I am more than satisfied. But I would like to see more screen on times. Can't figure out what's causing the drain as the highest consumer is always "android OS". Detailed BBS and GSAM next cycle (assuming I don't reboot). BTW, inputs in this thread are very helpful. Unfortunately, seems like location reporting/history are one of the biggest culprits of battery drain. I like the option of using location based services so that's really too bad. Google needs to fix those NLP/etc wakelocks.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Streaming Pandora might be it. Remember it's pulling data down for the music. Try it without it for a day and see if you get any improvements. As for location. You only need to disable location reporting. That will take care of NLP Wakelock and more.

For Android OS. It can be reduce by going to Android device manager in Google settings and disabling the first option then reboot. Awake and CPU time will be reduced for Android OS. But not by a lot.
[Moto X General] :
And Pandora through Bluetooth. Yeah, that could be all it is.

And those who use Gsam... Don't let that held awake time part on the main gsam page fool you when it says it only used 0.9 percent of your battery or whatever, with 4 hours held awake time .... That's my one beef with gsam.... That is entirely inaccurate.

My S2 has actually been having a held awake issue... Like hours of held awake time in a day... And I'm not touching the phone. It says like 1percent of my battery is from the held awake hours.... So why is my battery at 50 percent from fully charged in 16 hours.... With one minute screen time. Lol

Haven't looked into that yet.... As it isn't being used by anyone. The quick solution was to keep it shut off.

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[Moto X General] Steve-x:
My battery life has generally been excellent with my Moto X's. The last one I got gave me more then 48 hours of standby and 2 hours of screen time and still had a bunch of power left, this was on the first charge of the battery.

I did find something that increased the Android OS usage though and that was being in the area with marginal signal. There was no LTE at all and while the HSPA signal is there data is very slow. All the time the phone spent trying to sync my gmail and doing who knows what else really cranked up Android OS usage. Leaving that area so I had good data again and it went back down. It could easily be one of the reasons why people see wildly varying amounts of Android OS usage.
[Moto X General] fury683:
I don't think Pandora has a huge impact, or not the difference between 12 and 24 hours. I didn't use it at all yesterday and I was still on the exclamation battery before bed, about 13 hours off charger.

Today so far I'm at 82% remaining, 5h18m off charger. SoT 47:04 (89% dim, 10% medium 1% dark), Held Awake only 24:05.
[Moto X General] Coop9:
Really happy so far. VZW Developer Edition.

I've had the original Incredible, a Galaxy Nexus, HTC Rezound and the S3, and battery life is excellent compared to each of those phones. I can go 18 hours of normal use without worry. With the S3, I was usually around 40% after 10 hours. Now it's more like 70-75% when I leave work.

I'm pretty much stock as far as settings, Exchange email and gmail are both set to push (just updated to 4.4.2 apps hopefully that doesn't hurt anything and fixes the push issue), I stream audio for a 1-2 hours a day via bluetooth and a game here and there.

I was having a kernel wakelock issue early on, and it was being reported as audiomix as the culprit. I think I narrowed it down to being Marvel Puzzle Quest, I greenified it, and make a habit of swiping it away, and everything is fine now. I have not gone to extreme efforts to lock things down.

I'm in good LTE areas most of the time, have WiFi on at home (not office because I've never had luck jumping between the APs here on a phone) and BT is always enabled. It's weird not having to plug it in everytime I'm near a charger. It's OK to go to the bar with a 50% charge because that's plenty.
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
if you're on 4.2, try *NOT* doing anything.

ie. revert everything to stock/default settings.

those greenify, battery saver, and all those fluff are usually not tailored with Moto X...

if you're on 4.4, though, well...
[Moto X General] fury683:
4.4

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Your usage sounds very similar to mine. I have a MotoMaker edition on Verizon. I did notice my AudioMix being high, and attributed it to Pandora streaming. The only game I have installed is Tiny Tower, but it is Greenified. I do regularly swipe apps away from the recent app switcher when I'm not using them. BT always on, etc.

I know the battery isn't awful, and maybe I was terribly spoiled by my Razr Maxx before this. I haven't had to plug in for fear of it dying on me yet, and it does last quite a while you're delicate after it hits 5%.

I may look at Lux or similar to help adjust the auto-brightness levels. I always use auto, and it's nearly always on the second to lowest level, but I could probably get away with that level being darker and saving some juice.
[Moto X General] UncleMike:
If they're polling, they're not using push. Something doesn't sound right.