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[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Icehawk78:
I was successful in doing the Upgrade Shuffle.

Prereqs:

- At least two lines on a family plan.

- At least one line WITHOUT unlimited data.

- At least one line eligible for an upgrade (does not matter if it is the unlimited data line).

Process:

1) Log in to MyVerizon and go to "Upgrade Device".

2) If the device that is eligible for an upgrade is an Unlimited Data line, select "Transfer Upgrade" and transfer the upgrade to your line WITHOUT Unlimited Data. (If that device is already not Unlimited Data, skip this, and go to #3)

3) For the line WITHOUT Unlimited Data, choose "Upgrade Device".

4) Go through the store prompts, choosing your phone, any accessories, etc.

5) Optionally, choose "Ship to Store" (if you want your phone right now, rather than in a day or two), as well as entering the promo code "RMN30" (to save 30%, or ~$60 on the HTC One, from the phone price). I had a few issues doing both of these at once, but was eventually successful. If you can't choose "Ship to Store" after entering the coupon code, you may need log out and then start over from the beginning.

6) Activate the phone on the line WITHOUT Unlimited Data.

7) Go home, because a lot of Verizon employees seem to become *extremely* unhelpful after this step.

8) Log in to MyVerizon and select "Activate or Switch Device".

9) Choose the line that currently has your new phone (and no Unlimited Data)

10) Choose "Activate Device" and then "I am activating a device that I previously used with this account", and from the drop down menu, select the old phone that was previously on that line. Follow all of the transfer steps (for most phones, it is likely just "swap SIM cards").

11) Log in to MyVerizon and select "Activate or Switch Device".

12) Choose the line that DOES have Unlimited Data.

13) Choose "Activate Device" and then "I am activating a device that I previously used with this account", and from the drop down menu, select your brand new phone. Follow all of the transfer steps (for most phones, it is likely just "swap SIM cards").

14) Be happy that you now have a brand new phone, at a not-insanely-outrageous price, and still have Unlimited Data!

I did this earlier today without issue. I *attempted* to bypass half of these steps and have an employee do it, and they flipped their lid, so I did not buy from them. So buying the device online and doing the switches on your own seems to be your best bet.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] spectralblu:
I purchased this outright and had no troubles keeping my plan. The sales rep knew I wanted to keep my unlimited data and didn't bother me about signing a contract.

Sent from my HTC one on Verizon.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] DHowett:
Lag Time After Phone Activation

Currently in the midst of doing this exact same thing. Once you had activated the phone on the non-unlimited line, how long did it take for the website to register that the phone had been activated? When I try to switch the non-unlimited line back to its original phone, I just get this message from Verizon: "Your request cannot be completed. Our records indicate you recently purchased a device for this MDN but have not activated it yet. You have the option to proceed after you have activated your new device, or you may contact Customer Service at (800) 922-0204 for further assistance." It's been about an hour since I activated the One.

EDIT: Called Customer Service and they sorted it out straight away.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] shevanel42:
So does step 10 effectively cancel the data you added to the dumb line?

And what does the user of the dumb line have to do to get their phone to work again?

I'm going to use my mother's line; I'm 200 miles away and don't want her to be frustrated.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mtva24:
MY situation:

Line 1: Unlimited w/ eligible upgrade

Line 2: Dumb line no upgrade

I went to the VZW website, clicked transfer upgrade

Copped the one, requested it to be shipped to the store, they activated it

I had to call in because "swap device" wasn't working online...

put dummy phone back on dumb line and htc on line 1 w/ unlimited...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] swegin:
I just upgraded at Costco, they worked things so that I kept my unlimited data it took them less thab five minutes
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] digitalmofo:
Got my One yesterday. Upgraded line #2, activated the One, swapped the old phone back on to line #2, then swapped the One on to line #1 (unlimited data). Boom, done. When line 2 wants to upgrade, they can use the upgrade from line 1 to do so. As long as the device is not initially activated on your unlimited line, you do not lose unlimited data.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] replica9000:
If I exchange my silver One for a blue One, that shouldn't affect my plan right?

Nevermind. The phone went on sale at Best Buy, so they gave me $150 back.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] kimo91:
What I did was activated a new line and after that, the rep reactivated an old basic phone I had in my handset history and slipped my SIM card from my Maxx HD into the One. Only way I could've kept my unlimited data

Sent from my HTC One
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Bobflan:
Just got the Blue One at Best Buy, $49.99. Transferred upgrade to my wife's phone, activated it, went on Verizon site and did the switch. Still have unlimited data.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
What did you tell the store employee you wanted to do? Since I thought for the transfer upgrade method you had to make sure you click the line you want to upgrade first?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Bobflan:
He transferred my upgrade to my wife's line first and then I got the One on her line. She has a 2GB line. Once activated on her line I went home and on the Verizon site reactivated her thunderbolt back and activated the One on my line.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] lchuck:
When you upgraded at Costco, did you do anything to prepare in advance (switching upgrades, etc) or did you just walk in and say "I want a new phone and I want to keep my unlimited data"?

Also, does anyone know if Costco will price match Best Buy's $49.99 for this phone? Thanks in advance for the advice!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] red rage:
Ok so this is what i have ....

I have 3 smart phone lines eligible for upgrades . all 3 unlimited data .

I also have 1 line with no data that has a lg dare listed on it upgrade not available yet .

so what you guys are saying is transfer one of my 3 upgrades to the 1 non data line , pick an upgrade phone (htc one) buy it at upgrade pricing then switch the device to one of my 3 unlimited lines and put the dare back on the non date line that i just upgraded on .

unless im wrong , i would have to add data to that line to put the one on it .that would mean im changing my contract which in turn would kill my unlimited data . right or wrong ?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] tdwpkidd:
I'm a little confused on how you did it? Do you still physically need the old basic phone in hand? My old EnV flip phone no longer works would i need to borrow a dumbphone and activate it on that same line i had the EnV?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] replica9000:
Just upgraded another line using the same dumb phone from 2 weeks ago, and that same dumb phone's real upgrade is still this coming February.

So that's two HTC Ones for $100 and both have unlimited. :laugh:
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] |nsomniA:
Simple question - After you swap the HTC One over to the unlimited line, how do you disable the data plan on the dummy phone line so that it is just the $9.99 per month line charge?

Thanks in advance. :)

-|nsom
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
It's automatic. You don't have to do anything. When you place the dumb phone back on, the data plan will remove itself.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] |nsomniA:
Thank you for this info, so would an LG enV Touch be considered a "dumb phone" ? And if not, can I just contact Verizon support and have them locate an old ESN on the account history and swap that over to eliminate the data plan?

One other question - Does it matter the order in which I perform the device switch? Can I switch the HTC One over to the unlimited line first, and then switch the dumb phone onto the dummy line?

Thanks in advance,

-|nsom
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
Based on what I know about that phone, it should be a dumb phone.

Order does matter, the Dumb Phone needs to be placed back on the line first, otherwise how will the HTC One be free to be placed on your line?

So the order is:

1. Place Dumb Phone back on Line B

2. Place HTC One, now free, on Line A

As for older ESN, you can actually see for yourself. When you log-in to the verizonwireless.com website, you can go to a line and change device and then select: a device already on this account and it offers a drop down with all the devices ever on that account I believe.

All of this is implying of course, that you activated the HTC One on Line B first (the line you do not care about unlimited data on).
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Anthrax79:
OK, I have a follow up question....

I have 3 lines available for upgrade. My phone is the only one with unlimited data, the wife in still in the iJail, and my son has a non-data phone. So if I use my son's upgrade to get the HTC One, then do the phone swap to get the HTC One on my line.... can I then transfer my upgrade to his line and get him a new phone as well ?? Will transferring the upgrade kill my unlimited data ??
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
No, transferring upgrade will not kill your unlimited. That is the consensus here in this thread. That's really the only way unlimited users can use their own upgrades now.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] red rage:
so just to be clear here . as long as you dont get an upgrade on the main line you can keep your unlimited data ? or do you have to have one dumb line in order for this to work ? i will be super pissed if i try this and loose my unlimited data on my 3 lines . i also have one dumb line . but im tring to get all options for everyone here
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
Each line is independent of itself.

So each line that has unlimited cannot upgrade on its own line. You would have to transfer all 3 upgrades (one at a time) to the dumb phone line and upgrade them one at a time.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] red rage:
ok and you all have done this ? no problems
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] replica9000:
Yup, I've upgraded the same dumb phone twice within 2 weeks, no problems. Plus, the dumb phone still has it's regular upgrade a few months from now. You're basically transferring the eligibility of upgrade from your unlimited line to your dumb line.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] ppd0526:
I personally have only done the upgrade on dumb phone line (no transfer yet).

However, I know people in this thread have done transfer upgrade. Just do a quick search.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Anthrax79:
I "verified" this with a chat on the vzw.com website. I ask if I can transfer my upgrade and not risk my unlimited data. I was told yes, if I transferred my upgrade to a different line, the unlimited data on my current line would NOT be effected. My current line would assume the upgrade date of the line that had been upgraded.... my hopes are high. I think I am going to Best Buy tomorrow and getting me a new phone.... now real hard question... blue or white....
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Yori-:
just pulled this off just like others have said,

in my case, i used my line as a guinea pig w/ 4 gigabyte tiered data,

line 2, line 3 both have unlimited data. Transferred upgrade to my 4gig data tiered line and upgraded. Completed activation on this line, made a few calls, and waited a few hours before logging into myverizon and using the "switch device" option. Everything worked, and still have unlimited data on lines 2. Planning on transferring upgrade from line 3 for iphone5s tomorrow :)

Last but not least, i keep my 4 gigabyte double data promotion on line 1...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Alopez_45:
See this is the thing that I don't understand I have been in and out of a Verizon store, also including Best Buy mobile. I have three lines 1 with unlimited data eligible to upgrade , 2nd with 4gbs, 3rd just a basic feature phone. While me transferring my upgrade to another line it would cause me to extend my contract and losing my data. Is that right or am I missing something?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Anthrax79:
The vzw service rep I spoke with told me if I transferred my upgrade, my contract date would change, but my unlimited data would not be effected.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
nope, it has a browser and 3g, but its one that its only 9.99 for like 75mg of data.

---------- Post added at 04:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

no, transferring the upgrade does not lose unlimited data. Since you are not updating the unlimited line, the unlimited data remains, but the upgrade date switches when you switch upgrades.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] RLKirk:
They told me I would have to trade in my DNA in order to keep my grandaddy plan. But I wanted the blue one and best buy would not do that. I talked them into the 6gb for 30 dollars deal though and I think that will be plenty to hold me over. And I got my blue one :D
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Yori-:
not sure about everyone else,

i also thought when you trade your upgrade from line 2 unlim, to lined 1 tiered, the original LINE 1 upgrade, goes to LINE 2... doesnt seem to be the case,

what happens is, Line 1 still keeps it original upgrade date, and contract. Also i have noticed even though you are activating/completing upgrade on LINE 1 using LINE 2's upgrade, LINE 2 is still the one that gets the 2 year contract renewed

Not sure about everyone else but, this is exactly what happened to me. I personally dont have an issue with this either way.

It just seems when you transfer your upgrade from an unlim line to a tiered line, it bypasses the need of system that checks for unlimited data.

Either way, this is the best scenario for keeping your unlimited line, or the add a line 10$/24 month option :good:
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
best buy and verizon both confirmed that 3rd party retailers like best buy, amazon, wirefly can't transfer upgrades between lines. If others have been able to do it, I'm surprised. Verizon also wouldn't swap lines in advance. I was told by 2 reps and retentions that the swap had to be done at time of upgrade and couldn't be done before. Maybe some reps break this rule, but got tired of trying just to save a hundred bucks on my note 2.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Bobflan:
:confused: Did mine at Best Buy on Sunday. Rep transferred my upgrade (T-Bolt w/unlimited) to my wife's phone (T-Bolt 2gb plan), he activated the Blue One on her line, I went home and transferred her T-Bolt back on her line and set the Blue One to my unlimited line. No Problem!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Alopez_45:
Is this an Online only thing. I was able to transfer my upgrade(the line with unlimited data) to a feature phone on my account I called and and I went to the store. Now they are telling me even if I transferred my upgrade it'll still lose the data. Am I doing this process correct?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sfly510:
Rep at BestBuy said that to me also. He wasn't trying to be a ****, he legitimately believed that. A lot of reps don't even know that alternate upgrades do not remove unlimited data. We went through with it anyway after I showed him a post from xda detailing everything, and it all worked perfectly.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Bobflan:
The Rep I had was ex Verizon. Didn't have to tell him a thing, he knew what I wanted to do.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] USAXR6:
Sim card upgrade transfer

Believe it or not I am still rocking my original Droid, and like to put her out to pasture while preserving my unlimited with verizon.

Anyway Im kinda confused about the sim card.

I would like to transfer my upgrade form my unlimited data plan to my wife's tiered data plan and obviously upgrade on that line My confusion is what sim card do I use to activate the new phone on the other line with . The one that will be supplied with new phone or card from other phone older phone , and when i do the transfer thingy to the unlimited plan do i put in my new card . So I guess I am wondering which card to use and when to use it.

Thanks in advance
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] |nsomniA:
Anybody ever thought about switching the dumb phone to the extra line and then calling Verizon and telling them to "freeze" that extra line until the next time you plan to do the alternate upgrade shuffle? Does Verizon still offer the "freeze" line service? You used to be able to do that and you wouldn't have to pay anything for the line, it would just reserve the phone number for up to 1-2 years.

Thoughts on this? :confused:

-|nsom
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] DROID3R:
BOTH AMAZON WIRELESS AND BESTBUY MOBILE GIVE ME OPTION TO UPGRADE AND KEEP UNLIMITED DATA. I HAVE INDIVIDUAL LINE
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] dashbored:
Interesting idea. Although if memory serves, the last time I froze a line, the contract date was moved back accordingly. But that was a couple years back, not sure about their current policy.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] replica9000:
So when I did the swap with my One back to my first unlimited line in-store, everything stayed exactly the same. When I did the swap online with my second purchased One back to my second data line, this happened:
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Alopez_45:
If you happen to have an employee discount added on to your account, certain features will also get discounted. That Happens with me also.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] replica9000:
I do, but it usually shows a discount off of the entire bill, not per feature. I suppose it works out to the same anyways.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] catmanzrt:
This is true. I transfered my unlimited upgrade to my wifes line but Best Buys system didn't show the transfer. They said I would lose my unlimited data if I upgraded. While in the store I got a very helpful Verizon customer service rep named Linda on the line and she told me to go ahead and upgrade my line at Best Buy and she would put my unlimited plan back on my line after my new phone was activated. She said she would call me back when the new phone was done activating but it took a long time to complete the process and she never called back. I was a little nervous about it but Best Buy checked my account and she was true to her word and reinstated my unlimited plan for me so now I'm lovin my blue 50 dollar HTC One.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Dark Jedi:
Just came from a corporate store and have my new HTC one. Swapped my upgrade to my dumbphone line and then swapped it to my unlimited line. The guy working there did it all for me. Even showed I kept my unlimited data also.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] AllenConder:
Lost my unlimited when I upgraded 5 days ago and my fiancé decided to make it her mission to get it back while I was at work. Verizon store and Best Buy (where I got it) was worthless. One quick call Customer Service on the way home to me with the bad news and the nice lady got it back no problem, go figure

She said the lady was talking quietly and was choice with her words. But it only took a couple of minutes, but I think she used a bunch of sob stories like because of my work I need it, etc.

Good Luck hope this helps
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] chewy74:
So if i have 2 lines (Line#1 - Unlimited | Line# 2 - Dumb phone).

To accomplish this I will need to call VZW and have them transfer my upgrade from line 1 to line 2. Then get my new phone from a 3rd party retailer (like bestbuy) and activate it on line 2. After it's activated, I go online and log into my VZW acct and switch my newly purchased phone back to line 1 and put line 2 back to teh dumb phone, and my unlimted will not be affected.

Since line# 2 is a dumb phone line it will only have text and phone capabilities, and no data. How will I activate my desired phone (HTC one, for this example) without first having to upgrade that line to have a data plan? I ask this because i've seen people mentioning they are transferring their upgrade to teh dumb line and switching back...easy peasy, but no one mentioning how (if it's a non data line) without having to upgrade that dumb line first...

did that make sense?

Thanks
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
you can add the 2gb for 30 dollar plan and then cancel it when swapping phones back.

Good luck getting verizon to swap upgrades before going to bestbuy. Most reps won't do that and it won't stick online unless you complete the upgrade.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] MajikUF:
Engadget is reporting that Verizon is letting some people upgrade right now and keep their unlimited plans. (Unfortunately not me)

Engadget Link

I was able to, however, go through the purchase process on Amazon Wireless and below is on the final page before checkout. I didn't check out yet since I don't want to send my phone away for s-off and there hasn't been an exploit yet... The rezound is still working, I just am considering options to get a new phone without paying full price to get it while keeping my unlimited data.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] calash:
They may be patching that hole. I was sitting with a friend about 1/2 an hour ago and his plan would allow for the upgrade to keep unlimited date. He then got an error that forced him to close the screen. When he went back into the account it was not available anymore.

YMMV but that is what we saw here. I already updated so no luck for me :(
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] BreakingVZW:
Apparently over the weekend verizonwireless.com was allowing people to upgrade and choose unlimited data and then pick up the phones in the store. That ability has since been removed. The only available option now, as a previous member stated is to buy the phone at full retail.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] jbh00jh:
I think I read on on of the blinkfeed peices that VZW closed the loophole in their system that lets you keep the unlimited data when upgrading. :(
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sacnotsack:
Yeah I read about that today on DROID - life.com and I just got this phone last week. Oh well.

Sent from the HTC One and only
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] BreakingVZW:
Hey, I got mine on the 23rd of August right after they closed the HTCDev capability. I know about bad timing lol.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sacnotsack:
Ohhh....... That must have hurt when you realized the timing. It's okay, just a matter of time.

Sent from the HTC One and only
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] BreakingVZW:
Meh. I'm sending it to Sonic to work his Java card black magic. Im golden after that.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Kensai:
Does that apply to alternate upgrades? Or was it just a glitch where customers were given the option to upgrade directly on their unlimited line for subsidized phones n keep unlimited.

So alternate upgrades still work no? Thanks
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] cstrife999:
According to Engadget Verizon is allowing unlimited customers to upgrade without any loopholes..

Edit. New story on Engadget says the loophole is closed now but they will honor orders already placed.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] BreakingVZW:
like Cstrife said the loophole has been plugged. It seems like it wasn't so much a glitch as much as it was an oversight by Verizon. Verizon better be careful. They were getting awfully close to making customers happy. Good thing they knocked that sh*t off or someone might have *gasp!* thought Verizon gave a crap about existing customers.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] Kensai:
That's just terrific, now I'm totally SOL.... Arg, was hoping to wait till thanksgiving for prices to drop. Still on my Rezound and it's still going strong... Guess I better start saving :mad:
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] BreakingVZW:
Yeah, that sucks man. Sorry your'e getting the shaft. But hey, at least you have the option of buying the phone at full retail and keeping your unlimited data that way. Last I knew that was still possible.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] sacnotsack:
If you have another little extra without data and is available for an upgrade you can essentially transfer the upgrade to your line. Or open up a dummy line, activate the phone on the line, then activate a dumb phone on the dummy line then active new phone on your main line. Otherwise yes start saving.

Sent from the HTC One and only