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[Moto X General] a1exus:
I'm using MotoX with Verizon Wireless (XT1060), still on KitKat 4.4 with root and my batter life time _SUCK_ big time!

I _REALLY_ wanna go for KitKat 4.4.4 (which I believe is already available for Verizon as well) but I wanna keep root so I can wifi tether...

any suggestions?
[Moto X General] :
Yes, get Gsam... And root companion if you're rooted and we might be able to help. ;)

See the first 4 posts in the battery help thread in my signature.... It's in N5 section... But universal advice really.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
I have BBS installed as Gsam is paid app.
[Moto X General] :
There is a paid gsam... But a fully functional free one too... And gsam root companion gives you the wake locks. ?
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Free version isn't working for KitKat, so you MUST get paid version.
[Moto X General] :
Incorrect. It works just fine. I have 4 kit Kat running devices. All with gsam. ;)

You just need root companion with kit Kat to see wake locks.

TRUST ME! LOL
[Moto X General] a1exus:
OK, so again if you want to see my wakelocks you want me to get paid version, right? I think BBS does it in free version .
[Moto X General] :
Lol noooooooo...... Gsam shows wakelocks with totally free version and gsam root companion... Also free. Lol

But sure.... Post BBS.... I just personally am not as familiar with BBS.

See the screen shots in post 4 in the battery thread in my signature.... All from free version. ?
[Moto X General] a1exus:
here is my BBS report: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9dglh1yp2yavhg3/BetterBatteryStats-2014-08-01_181619213.txt
[Moto X General] :
I am far too tired to read that wall of text. :(

Screen shots maybe?

Sorry. ?
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Didn't create screen shot and now I'm fully charged.
[Moto X General] :
I will look at it when the kids aren't grabbing at me. Lol

If you don't hear back... Run the phone to like 10 percent and take some screen shots of wakelocks and what not. I'll try to help.... Just not a BBS expert. :)
[Moto X General] a1exus:
Ok
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Update....wow....still 12℅ left and I was trying to kill this thing
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Here are the instructions again for the battery drain issue given to me by Motorola. Make sure you plug your phone into a wall charger before following these instructions. Motorola were insistent on this.

Dear customer,

Thank you for contacting Motorola.

As discussed please do :

Turn your phone off

Press and hold the VOL DOWN key

While still holding the VOL DOWN key, press and hold the POWER key

Hold both keys down for over 120 seconds. Note, it must be more than 2 minutes!

After holding the keys down for more than two minutes, release them.

The Flash Boot screen will display, and the Normal Reboot option will be highlighted

Press the VOL UP key and the device will start a normal reboot.

While these key sequences are the same as the Forced Reboot, holding the keys down for over two minutes issues a different command to the device. This forces a hardware reset of the processor and terminates all running commands.

Please note that it will take few days to collect enough data to troubleshoot the issue and also we can provide a prepaid jiffy bag for 3 customers.

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The instructions haven't really fixed my 1% battery issue but has definitely improved general battery drainage to the point where I'm just going to live with the 1% issue and not return my phone to Motorola for repair.
[Moto X General] toroloco73:
but this type of reset erase app and data?
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
No.
[Moto X General] abuttino:
Any idea if I can disable these and have GCM still work?

It's getting my usage from Google play services through the roof
[Moto X General] :
Best answer... Try it and see, since no one seems to know. :)
[Moto X General] chipk:
Also saw my Moto X battery get slapped yesterday and today.

According to GSam, it is Android System with a bunch of wakelocks, 3,372 to be exact!

1,600 were from Wakelock, sounds high doesn't it?

No major updates or changes to the system,...

Any thoughts?

Chip
[Moto X General] blackhand1001:
My battery is excellent.
[Moto X General] kuplex:
Mines been great.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
It's already known that location is the source of the wakelock problems. Turn it off if you don't need it (long press to toggle in notification pulldown) and enjoy your amazing battery life.
[Moto X General] StephenMilone:
anyone here using Tasker/Secure Settings to trim their location usage to only certain apps?

if in one the 'GPS Apps' as i call them , location mode:high, gps:enabled, and off/disabled for when leaving the app.

Works great for Maps, Waze, Swarm, etc. However Google Now doesn't work. In the Tasker app selections i picked both Google and Google Settings, and it doesn't trigger the change. (Note I'm not using GEL)

Any input? Tasker bug?

Edit found answer, Tasker/4.4 bug

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tasker/google$20now/tasker/BA2ozQ0SlOQ/UA3EW_0sBv0J

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tasker/google$20now/tasker/saGBgdAUUqY/Rzvdu72GJ9UJ
[Moto X General] phositadc:
I tweeted a link to this thread to [MENTION=276290]motorola[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1451730]punit[/MENTION]soni. I think there's enough evidence of higher than normal idle drain that Motorola should at least look into it.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Idle drain or not, this is glorious.
[Moto X General] snrbobo:
i had an idle drain, but after i flashed the stock firmware (Brasil factory unlocked firmware), signed into google, root, then froze some apps i no i won't use, i'm about to get from 5AM to 10PM and still have around 30% left. this phone is pretty awesome!
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
That is ridiculous
[Moto X General] anotherfiz:
Here is a day of real light use.

Really cannot complain.
[Moto X General] wberry2:
I had a medium use day a few days back where I saw low battery warning at about 19 hours.

Works for me. It's not like i'm not going to charge while I sleep.
[Moto X General] RyleyinSTL:
This phone's bat life is a revelation! I left for work at 7am today and didn't get home until about 7:30pm. Office has normal to poor reception. Checked messages a dozen times, did navigation for 10 minutes, sent a few text messages and made a few short calls. Battery at 70%.

I think your average middle aged corporate user will be very pleased with this phone.
[Moto X General] Rask40:
This, sadly, is the best battery life day I've had yet with this phone. T-Mobile sims should arrive tomorrow.
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
Well, of course you get good battery if you disable bunch of crap, but what is the point of owning a phone like this if you have to cripple it? As someone posted, bunch of OEMs is the pitfall of this OS. Some take their time to optimize it, some do not. Result is a so-so battery life.

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Also, as I said earlier. If you have marginal signal, it will rape your battery.
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Most of what he did is reasonable except 1) manually turning off WiFi when not in use and 2) not using PUSH at all -- that seems ridiculous but to each his own. With my new unit the battery life is great, with no idle drain and I didn't even bother rooting/freezing anything this time around.
[Moto X General] promiseofcake:
Looking good.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Not sure how good this is.
[Moto X General] promiseofcake:
Blows my Skyrocket out of the water and I have similar results.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Wasn't the skyrocket know for horrid battery life?
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
The phone is personalized to my specific needs. Why would I enable stuff that I never plan on using?

I'm not an attention whore who likes to feel important because their phone rings every 5 minutes with FB, twitter and email notifications. My ex was like that... I cringed so hard lol. I like to spend the least amount of time possible on my phone. If I have time to check my things, I check my things. If not, that phone better stfu =P

But yes bad signal will be detrimental to battery life for sure.
[Moto X General] Aarongauntt:
I turned off sync and it helped my idle drain by about .5 to 1%
[Moto X General] promiseofcake:
Not to my knowledge, comparable to other S2 devices, and I was fairly active in the community.
[Moto X General] elijahah:
stuck at 1%?

Anyone else getting to 1% and getting stuck there for a while. Not a bad problem I guess but maybe an issue with some sort of calibration? This is only the second time I've tried it but I'll get down to 1% and I'll get about 1.5-2 hours straight of screen on time at 1% before it dies.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
My Skyrocket had pretty good battery until ICS. Then it went to ****. I would NEED two batteries just to get through a day.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Same happened to me when I had an X. I posted s thread about it somewhere. You could probably find it if you search.
[Moto X General] PiousInquisitor:
Source? I'd like to read up on it.
[Moto X General] :
Try the battery link in my sig. ;)

First 4 posts have lots of info.

Location services is the number one battery issue out there... Well, combined with the apps that exploit it.

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It's an N5 thread.... But 99.9% of it applies to any device. ?
[Moto X General] toroloco73:
impossible....
[Moto X General] kuplex:
Not really. I always get over 5 hours SOT. Sunday (or was it Saturday?) surprised me with 6 1/2. WiFi 95% of the day. Mainly browsing forums/playing WwF.

In have location reporting and history off. I dont use Google Now, and I am in a very good LTE signal area. Stock non-rooted
[Moto X General] Capozz:
Stock non-rooted firmware, location service and google now off.
[Moto X General] :
My highest SoT on the X was 7:44. ?
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
It has been beaten to death in this thread. It is easy to deduce by looking at your wakelocks and doing a little googling.

4hrs SOT with 24hrs standby (lots of emails, texts, whatsapp, gps, bluetooth + google music streaming and more) is standard for me. Look at my awake time vs screen time; Not possible with location on.

Mediaserver = 1 hour streaming google music to my car via bluetooth
[Moto X General] Foo_Blyat:
I did the 2 minute boot up trick with phone plugged in and turned location services off. still dropped 17% in the last hour.

How do I turn google now off
[Moto X General] ram130:
Goto settings, apps then Google search and hit clear data. Reboot.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
the phone might do this once all settings are cleared because it could be figuring out how much battery you actually have give it a day or something to see if it helped or not.
[Moto X General] sm753:
I just updated to 4.4.4 and did a full drain "cycle". I actually got pretty close to what you got...screenshot available upon request. 19h 23m and 3h 26m SOT with all location services enabled.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
While I think that is really good with location services on, it's not as good (especially for a full drain). A full battery drain takes me to about 28+ hours with 4+ hours SOT. The last 1% lasts forever and I took that screenshot at about 15%.

I'd live with what you got though. :)
[Moto X General] sm753:
That's actually a very good point. Next cycle I'll try setting location to "device only" (GPS only).
[Moto X General] Foo_Blyat:
I went into apps and disabled touchless control instead. Seems to have done the trick
[Moto X General] abuttino:
Grr.. I see they didn't fix the GPS problem in 444. I've been wondering why my device is always chewing up endless battery. Turned off GPS and Android OS went to nothing of what it used to be.

Touchless control also sucks in 444. It picks up my voice from TV. Never happened in 442. I've retrained it more than 5 times
[Moto X General] jisse44:
Hi.

Daily usage during week.

Stock 4.4.4 en.FR rooted, with Xposed framework and some modules.

Touchless and Ok google Now activated.

What I use to save battery: LeanDroid to cut 2g/3g/4g data 1min after screen off, and schedule a sync every 50 min

I also use GPS quick togglet o completely disable location when not needed (Location SlimKat style in GravityBox)

For me it's a pretty good battery life without any charge.

I usually plug my phone in my car, and the 45 minutes by day are enough to not to have to charging it in the evening.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
not that this has anything to do with 4.4.4, but i found that if i use a deeper voice when setting it up that it gets picked up all the time. or if i even slightly change pitches when training that it picks it up from other sources far more often. just sharing my experience in case it can help you out.
[Moto X General] Xin_TiGeR:
does anybody knows why now with the 4.4.4 my Wifi usage is so high??

its always like that! wifi usage is always on top now! in the previous update it never apeared and in the past with the moto g i had i also never noticed this!! the locations i frequent are the same as before.. dont get this..

quick note: i´ve disabled location reporting and put de location to device only (just gps)
[Moto X General] Hasuris:
For me wifi usage is also very high. I "fixed" it with setting it to disable whenever the phone is idle.

I froze a couple of Moto-bloat-apps with Titanium but they got loaded and were sitting in memory inspite of it. Had to remove the bloat to get rid of it. Disabled touchless control too and removed voice control-service, that was also all the time running although turned off. All location services are off. I am now down to 0,5%/h discharge when the phone is idle. Very good

I was playing with auto brightness, cause to me, the phone is too bright. Gravitybox can change the brightness of each auto brightness level. If only there was a way to tell which level I am currently in to tweak it further. It's a hit and miss now. Any ideas?
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Voice control service separate from touchless control? Would you mind elaborating?
[Moto X General] Hasuris:
I'll try to overcome the language barrier here, so bear with me :) Although I disabled "Sprachsteuerung" (~voice control) in settings, the service responsible for it, was still loading. Although I froze it with TB. Not sure why and if this is normal behaviour cause if apps load anyway, what's the point in freezing them?
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
I think you can get an app that kind of shows what autobrightness level you are at, but it may use its own scale, or brightness in lux.. I used this app that was an auto screen filter based on brightness for a while, until I found the feature in gravity box. you might be able to use that to configure it cause it shows how much light the sensor is currently detecting.

But in general i lowered the lowest ones the most, and kept the highest ones almost the same ( don't want difficulty in sunlight). So for example if you made the first from 30 to 20 (10 lower), make the next step up 9 lower, 8, and so on.
[Moto X General] mufakir:
kernel eating up battery

When I bought this phone (3 months ago) I based my decision on a lot of reviews vouching for the awesome battery life. However, the battery life is just average or maybe it's just my phone. I dunno. I get 17-18 hours per day with normal, not heavy, normal usage. No 3G, no 4G. The thing that eats the battery life is the kernel. I'm on 4.4.3 and anxiously awaiting 4.4.4, maybe that will solve the battery life problem for me cause the kernel seems to be draining the battery a lot.

Does anyone know how to fix this kernel drain? Also, the phone's rooted, so can I install another kernel on it and see how that kernel fares? And if so, which kernel would you guys recommend?

I'd really appreciate the help!
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yes it fixes it.

- Ram
[Moto X General] MickyMax:
I can confirm the last update greatly improved my battery.
[Moto X General] mufakir:
can you recommend a kernel? the moto x is xt 1053
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Stock 4.4.4 ;)
[Moto X General] bradg24:
Is anyone have signal problems with 4.4.4 (baseband problems)? Mine drained my battery because it drops signal and/or bouncing off 3g to 1x. Its wasn't like this at all on 4.4.2 I had strong 4g at work at least 2 bars. I call Verizon and they said they see nothing from Moto with that problem. (But I read on other sites some are.) Should I update to the droid ultra radio/baseband?
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
Anyone have an idea as to why "phone" reports so high after updating to 4.4.4?

When I took off the charger in the morning, all was well. Less than .5%/hr idle drain. Then, when I had some time to look at the new features, I played around with rearranging my speed dial contacts. Later I noticed " phone " was keeping my hone awake all the time. I have cleared data on the phone app and re synced my accounts but nothing has worked yet. Anyone have an idea what else to try before I have to factory reset?

Thanks!
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
Here is what I see.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Have you restarted the phone? Sometimes an app locks up, usually that fixes it.

If not, try bbs and gsam and wakelock detector. Note: these apps may require root
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
Yes, restated many times. I'm not rooted so, anything else? Hoping to not have to to a reset, but I guess there are worse things in life.

It started yesterday morning and has been solid awake since then. Not sure what else to try.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Settings...Apps...all. Phone. Clear data. You'll loose call log. Reboot.
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
Sorry, thought I said, but I have cleared the "phone" app data. Force closed, rebooted. Tried switching to a different SMS app. Re synced google accounts.

I think that is it. Anything else?

Thank you for your help!
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Since you're not rooted I'm assuming you have stock recovery. It's probably another app polling phone. Can you wipe dalvik cache in stock recovery? If so, do that. An alternative would be to switch to ART then back to dalvik or vice versa. I'm pretty sure that will wipe the cache as well
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
I could not find anyway in stock recovery to wipe cache. I just switched to ART. I will see if that helps.

Thanks!
[Moto X General] mufakir:
sweet! thanks! you're the man! now can you point me to the link where I can download that from? :P when is the xt 1053 going to get the ota update? :/
[Moto X General] ram130:
What carrier version is that model?

- Ram
[Moto X General] mufakir:
T-mobile
[Moto X General] ram130:
T-Mobile version should be next week. I got the same.

- Ram
[Moto X General] dschreiber69:
OK, got it!

Switching to ART was the only way I could clear my cache w/o resetting. After my phone finished booting, I let it set for about 5 minutes, then, all of a sudden about 15 SMS came through. After I thought about it, I had not received any SMS since I updated. Now everything has settled down and NO wake lock, yay!

It is like my phone new there were messages to be received, I just wasn't getting them.

Thank you for your guys help!

I'll follow up with one last question, has anyone seen a benefit of using ART or Dalvik? Nothing is sticking out to me.
[Moto X General] jtquen:
Battery Life

How come my battery life is bad on 4.4.2?

Sent from my Sprint Moto X.
[Moto X General] Hasuris:
Looks like your screen was on most of the time. So this is normal behavior. What's your screen-on time?
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I'm a huge advocate of ART. I've noticed increased battery life by at least an hour SOT and I find the phone to run faster and smoother. I however am not on 4.4.4 yet, still on 4.4.3 and below ART is the way to go.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Even though this phone has unusually high wake locks, the battery life is absolutely amazing! I've managed to go 2 and a half days on a single charge with mixed use and SOT of just over 2 hours.
[Moto X General] efstuck:
Been using the Moto X for a year now and battery comfortably can get me through a day no problem with wifi/gps/bluetooth on.
[Moto X General] mufakir:
i hate u :D
[Moto X General] hlaraujo:
Yesterday I flashed Krypton ROM (http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657) 4.4.3 and believe or not, I got 1% of drain overnight (my "overnight" lasts for about 6 hours), the rest of the day I drained it quickly because I made a extreme heavy use of it with music, installing and uninstalling apps, maps, waze, setting my launcher right, facebook, downloading, whatsapping and changing to art, but still got 14h with 3h 30min SOT. I saw some users saying that Krypton is giving them really super battery life and just for 1% drop in 6 hours, I guess it's true, I'm going to charge it completely and see it goes and post some feedback later.
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Anyone else experiencing the high Android OS usage? My battery life was good, now it's this which isn't super horrible but I barely have SOT
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Try disabling Assist and compare.
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Actually when I went to disable it, it's already been disabled.... Hmmm
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Turn off location if you don't need it, weed out wakelock apps.
[Moto X General] :
Not sure what your "must have" features are.... But these things will raise Android OS...

-Location services (device only isn't so bad)

-location history reporting... Bad one!

-Google Now

-The 2 options in Android Device Manager (found in Google settings app)

-syncs.. Mostly Google stuff, found in settings/accounts/your account... The less here the better.

-possibly Google Apps, like google+ and hangouts.. Not positive tho, I've never used either.

Cut as much of that out as you can and you should see a huge difference. Or turn it all off and bring them back one at time per day and eventually you will find the main offender. ?
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
To be honest with you, all of that is turned off.... No location... Not even sync. I'm beyond confused lol
[Moto X General] ram130:
Reboot or wait for 4.4.4. I got the issue too. My stand by is at 3%/hr even with location off. And the crime? Just having 100hrs uptime.
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Yeah I hear 4.4.4 fixes it but sprint hasn't released that update quite yet, was hopefully looking for an easy fix... Oh well!! Thanks to everyone for the help
[Moto X General] ram130:
No problem. Sprint is currently in soak test mode. Should be by next week. I still got to wait a while for T-Mobile.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Yeah, not to complain at all, I feel bad for those poor saps without Motorola phones that wait months... But I haven't heard anything about a T-Mobile 4.4.4 yet. Any word on that?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Barely. They saying it might get pushed back because of the event coming up in the 4th.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Is the next phone and watch expected to be released on the 4th or just unveiled?
[Moto X General] tylerjames09:
Manually updated to 4.4.4 and wow.... World's difference in battery life. Android OS is barely existing on the chart. Looking good!
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Android OS is barely existing on the chart, but did u really see "world's difference in battery life"? Did your battery life actually improve that much, or at all?

Because I think the bug was in battery usage incorrectly registering under Android OS rather than Android OS itself overusing the battery. So even though Android OS is not high on the chart anymore, I doubt actual battery life has improved.

People with rogue apps would still have battery life problems after upgrading to 4.4.4 even if Android OS is not high on the chart anymore, the only difference would probably be the battery usage correctly registering under the rogue app itself instead of Android OS.

People with no rogue apps and no battery life problems would not see any improvement in battery life, they would just see that Android OS is not high on the list and that's it, their battery wouldn't last any longer...

That's how I see it at least...