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[Moto X General] Liiich:
Now i have touched 3h and 45minutes of SOT.. The only thing that i done of different is that yesterday I watched some YouTube videos..

Normally i have 1h less of SOT...

Inviato dal mio XT1052 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Moto X General] kcuffel:
battery life is pretty bad in comparison to my other devices. but you learn to live with it.
[Moto X General] :
Battery life is what you make of it...

[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!

?

(post 2. I always setup as laud out in post 2...got 6 hours SOT on the X minimum.)
[Moto X General] kenosis:
Do I see wrongly? I cannot see post 2
[Moto X General] :
Page 1, post 2.

---------- Post added at 07:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 PM ----------

It's an N5 thread, but the tips are universal. ?
[Moto X General] kenosis:
Last paragraph of Page 1 post #1 is "Be patient!!".

After that #3 (Tips for better battery life).

I can't see #2.

**sorry, I can see post 2 if I use PC but I can't see it if I use XDA app.
[Moto X General] :
I don't know why tips are post 3 for you... See...
[Moto X General] :
Anyway... Tips are what I was getting at. ?
[Moto X General] kenosis:
Thank you. I tried to post a screenshot but I don't know how to upload. :)
[Moto X General] TheBoiledDogs:
Decided to return back to the stock but rooted 4.4.4 Rom. I downloaded Xposed and Infinite Battery and it is churning out the similar times to the Epsilon Rom. This run had a little over 3 hours of SOT. Not bad at all...
[Moto X General] kcuffel:
It sure is. But it also isn't. The Moto X just doesn't have as good of battery life as any other my other devices. I'm not new to kernels, ROMs, Xposed and all the other fancy things to tweak and maximize every type of performance. It just simply isn't as good as other devices I have owned/own. But I'm okay with it. It lasts long enough for me. I also have a hard time believing you get 6 hours SOT and all the rest. Unless you use 6 hours over a short period of time versus a full 24 hour day :)
[Moto X General] :
Buried in this thread are many of my screen shots. My average times in gsam, over a long period... Not just a one day fluke, are 28 hours or so total and well over 6 hours SOT. ?

Just search this thread for my user name. ?

That's with my setup and usage. Obviously not everyone will have the same.

My m8 averages are higher than most 2. Same setup and usage. As was my N5.

And how I do it is in the thread I linked.
[Moto X General] itasoulas:
Anyone here on official CM12 nightlies? I switched from stock 4.4.4 KK on my XT1052 (EU) last night (needed to do some reading to make it work) and I am really impressed. I don't miss the essential moto apps and I wanted something "cleaner". I used pa's micro gapps package and I love lesser syncs.

Now my question concerns battery life. I haven't got the time to do some proper monitoring since I flashed new nightly today and set up a few things. I now left it on idle without wifi/data on and sync off to see how the system behaves in relation to battery life. I feel that battery is a bit better than stock. Did someone made a proper monitoring for 3-4 days so can give me a better clue before I find out myself? Thanks!
[Moto X General] Gonmy:
moto x has better baterry than nexus 5?
[Moto X General] :
2 devices setup and being used the exact same way, yes... The Moto X is a bit better. ?
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
Absolutely, I switched from the N5 in large part because of the terrible battery (GPS too)
[Moto X General] zed011:
What's the best resolution to com.google.android.gsf.login draining battery life? I've tried reinstalling play services and that didn't help. I now removed my google account to see what happens. The only way I solved backtransport battery drain was to do a factory reset sadly but now it's gsf.login hurting my battery life this time around.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Turn off location when you're not using it.
[Moto X General] zed011:
I was under the impression that having location set to GPS only was fine.
[Moto X General] zed011:
Got some kernel wake locks not sure what these are. I turned off location. Touchless control off. No google accounts added. My CPU wake lock looks great I just need to figure out these kernel locks.

pm8921-charger-heartbeat

power-supply

pm8921soc_lock
[Moto X General] jco23:
Ugh. Battery awful lately. Was great before 4.4.4 update. I used to be able to get 3+ hours SOT, now, I'm lucky if I get 2 with no changes.
[Moto X General] nyancat:
time for new battery? I wonder if someone could make extended battery for moto x :( (non battery case one)
[Moto X General] lolcopter:
My WiFi battery drain bug turned out to be crap stock firmware on my old WRT54GS

Have since updated the router firmware to Tomato and Moto X battery is back to normal / good
[Moto X General] Ravariya:


Lasted just 2 hour short in 2 days (almost 46 hours)

Before I can get a screenshot phone gone off

On stock android 4.4.4, not rooted, no battery saving app.

With minimum use

SOT-2 hours

Voice calls- 45 mins

occasional data usage on 3g

occasional GPS and maps on

Continuously traveling for 2 days about 1800 kms with roaming.
[Moto X General] zerogun:
Finally upgraded to 4.4.4. Battery was draining like crazy.

I finally resorted to freezing everything with Titanium backup. The only thing that got me back to good battery life was removing Active Display. I know, it sucks, but that's what gave me my battery life back. I have a Moto 360 so Active Display has not been useful for a while now...

Attached is a screenshot of y current cycle. Hopes this info helps someone.
[Moto X General] jco23:
much improved better battery life since moving to lollipop (Blisspop). i highly recommend for all with unlocked bootloader.
[Moto X General] radekt_cz:
battery drain

Hello all,

can you please help me with my Moto X? I am experiencing battery drain even the phone is sitting on the desk, even on airplane, it doesn't matter I dont use it at all, it is almost empty in one day. What I've already done (with no signs of improvemet at all):

- Replaced battery with new one

- Cleare cache data

- Reset to factory default

- Boot to safe mode

OS is Kitkat 4.4.4. (no root)

It is very annoying, that huge battery drain is there even in airplane mode during night. No wifi, no wakelocks, but constantly consuming ~30mA.

My old XT890 was much better in these terms, it lost no more than 5% during night.

Can you please advise? Thank you.
[Moto X General] jco23:
Battery will always drain, even when idle. It looks like you're at ~50% after 21 hours? That's incredible.

You should get no more than 3% drain per hour when idle.
[Moto X General] :
Install gsam. Charge to 100 percent. Let it sit while you sleep and do a screen shot in the morning. Would like to see what it says. Or charge to 100 and let it sit during the day. Has to be several hours though, and no use.

My X drains at about 1 percent per hour, even in airplane mode. With absolutely no use. And that's about a decent drain on the X. Not too many get lower than that. Some get near 2 percent. The X isn't great with standby drain... Usually. Mine is rooted, debloated, some apps greenified, and that's as good as it ever gets. Location off, Google now off. Android device manager options off.

Check gsam in the apps section too for kernel wakelocks. You can't see app wakelocks without root... But you don't appear to have any. Wakelock detectors pc version will show app wakelocks without root.

Post the main gsam screen, app screen and kernel wakelocks screen and we'll see how they look. ?
[Moto X General] radekt_cz:
Hi, I made some screenshots. The phone was fully charged in the evening and left on the desk.

I also included screenshot from Wakelock detector PC version.

Thanks for your help.

Airplane mode ON

Wifi OFF

GPS OFF
[Moto X General] orky87:
Blisspop doesn't play nice with TDHK Kernel so you know which by the way you shroud try on CyanHacker if you do.
[Moto X General] radekt_cz:
Darth do you have any suggestion ? thx
[Moto X General] :
See the battery help thread in my signature. Posts 1 to 4, for tips and the screen shots I recommend.

But, I see no issue for you in those shots. Though going from 100 to about 10 percent tells a better tale.

And snapdragon battery guru will waste more battery than it saves. Honest! [emoji106]
[Moto X General] zed011:
Darth have you ever ran the geekbench battery life test? I am really curious what result you get.

I am running it on mine at the moment, will report back when my phone reaches 0%.
[Moto X General] :
Afraid not. ?
[Moto X General] zed011:
My geekbench battery test lasted 3 hours and 23 minutes which is actually is about the best SOT I get on everyday use.
[Moto X General] frankie_p:
Stand-by time on Moto X????

My thanks Darth for all the excellent wisdom you share with the community.

Now I have a question that is eating me. What is the average Stand-by time on the Moto X? I followed your advices, but my device is always about 2% battery discharge/hr on my xt1053 32GB version using Krypton ROM (BTW, it is an awesome ROM).

I did a couple of tests to see if the issue was with some rouge app, or some setting keeping the device awake, or some wakelock misbehaving. On all the tests the result is about the same: 2%/hr. What I did:

Scenario 1: Using SetCPU and AutoMagic Automation to lower the CPU usage when the screen is off and to turn off location, wifi and mobile data on Android 4.4.3, 2~2.5%/hr. This is with the phone just sitting there doing nothing and the screen off.

Scenario 2: Using Titanium Backup I froze almost everything that could be frozen, including the apps mentioned on scenario 1 and put the device in Airplane mode. Active Display and Touchless are frozen as well and the results are 1.7~2.3%/hr.

I did the same using the 4.4.4 version of Krypton ROM and the results are pretty much the same. There are no random apps or services causing issues that I could tell, just the Moto X sucking at Stand-by time. It is really annoying when I see my Huawei phablet in Stand-by mode using 0.1%/hr of battery ONLY. I LOVE the Moto X, I would say it is even better than the new version, but the battery is really it's Achilles Heel. I'm even thinking of upgrading early to an Honor 6 .
[Moto X General] :
I never got better than around 1 percent per hour drain on the X.... Though my 28 hours total and 6 to 7 hours SOT was still nice. Yes, the X does seem to drain a little more while idling than most devices I've owned recently.

Post 1 and 2 here tell my setup and tips,

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-life-help-troubleshoot-battery-t2785128

If you have more services running than I usually do, or have many social apps... Especially with location on.... I'd expect you would be higher than 1% per hour. Also, signal matters a lot.

You could post some screen shots with gsam and we can see if anything looks unusual. But it could be your setup... Or apps. Post 4 in my battery thread lists the important screen shots. :good:
[Moto X General] zed011:
I've been using the leaked lollipop 5.0.2 soak test build and I've been pretty happy with my battery life now. Could be even better but this is with no greenify. Location set to battery saving. Active display is left on. Almost 4h30 SOT, far far better than my 2h30ish SOT on Kitkat and I'm using the same apps. Only social apps I use are fb messenger,instagram,bbm and whatsapp.
[Moto X General] Ravariya:
Minimum usage mobile standby on stock lollipop 5.1

Due to my profession sometime I have to manage battery to last as longer it can.

So this was experiment:

No ROOT, Pure Stock Android Lollipop 5.1, No Battery Saving App.

Minimum Usage,

Battery Saving - ALWAYS ON

Moto Display - ON

Moto Assist - ON

Moto Voice - OFF

GPS, Mobile Data, WiFi - OCCASIONALLY ON

Apps used Occasionally - WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, Gmail, Camera, Maps etc...

Result - One Full Charge BATTERY BACKUP IS

MORE THAN 84 HOURS

. From Sunday 5Pm to Thursday 7Am On single charge

NOW THIS IS REALLY AMAZING FOR A 2 YEAR OLD SMARTPHONE :D

Same Experiment With KitKat:
[Moto X General] sroy001:
Battery life is amazing post 5.1 OTA.. Post 24 hrs.. Over 4hrs SOT

Rooted

Greefy

Amplify

:):):)
[Moto X General] jcrahul:
:(

The first day it worked pretty well... but now it is getting on my nerves :/ Cell Standby keeps the cpu awake... and drains maximum battery :(

NOTE:- not just this... i put my phone to airplane mode... still cell standby... (mobile radio active) was using battery.. this is very annoying.. like i get a battery drain of 7-10% per hour...
[Moto X General] nitrofoliz:
Cell standby drains my battery too ?

Envoyé de mon XT1058 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Moto X General] bothgoodandbad:
just reflashed (clean/wipe) Krypton.. back to getting 48 hrs... any where from 2.5 - 5 hours SOT (this time i am not adding xposed etc)
[Moto X General] St.Noigel:
I have the best battery life on stock 4.4.4 (debloated) stock kernel + Greenify + Power Nap for Xposed

WiFi, sync, mobile data, GPS enabled (see attachments )
[Moto X General] orky87:
Same here stock debloated 4.4.4 with only Active Display intact. Running Zwliew kernel at 1134MHz. Averaging around 5-6 hours OST.

Greenify + Amplify with only WiFi on. Brightness on minimum within buildings and on Auto when outside.
[Moto X General] :
All I know, on any lollipop rom, I've lost about an hour and a half screen on time average...or more. Went from 7.5 to 5.5 or so, for my gsam average. I've learnt to live with it... But they dropped the ball with battery life on lollipop in my eyes.

Standby drain is still fine, but screen on obviously lowers overall time as well. I may consider going back to Kit Kat... Since I've lost my need to flash all the time. Or hardly ever really. :)
[Moto X General] Bhargav4591:
My thoughts exactly. Although, Mark Venture describes in detail, the possibility of bricking when downgrading . Do you have any other means to "SAFELY" downgrade to kitkat ?
[Moto X General] BrownDog99:
My battery isn't really that good for a 720p, 4.7 inch screen. The other day I had to use GPS and the phone barley lasted a few texts and a single phone call after. Worse battery life ever for me. My note 2, Sony z ultra, lg g3, and my lg g flex all last way longer. I'm using greenify, wakelocks, and other battery savers, but not much changes. Tried other kernals and roms, with no luck. Right now I'm using eclipse Rom and kwkernal
[Moto X General] :
No no. Downgrading bad. But you can flash a Kit Kat rom. That's what I was thinking. A stock based one.
[Moto X General] BrownDog99:
I just flashed ls battery mod and I'm getting good battery life. I recommend
[Moto X General] aledex:
How did you managed to achieve 7+ hours of screen time? On my best days, I barely reached 6 hours with almost everything off...

Now I'd love to reach 5 hours, if I'm lucky I get 3... I'm now at 42% after 17 hours of battery and 1.5 hours of screen time.
[Moto X General] ajsonofgod:
My battery life is being very good. I nearly get 19-20hrs of battery backup with wifi and calling. I am on 5.1

Sent from my XT1052
[Moto X General] BrownDog99:
Turn off carrier internet when not needed fixed issue for me, bit if you need it every second, its not an option
[Moto X General] justaway2:
Doesn't make a difference for me. My battery drains even in airplane mode. I flew between Toronto and Calgary, had the phone on airplane mode during those hours, and the battery still drained as if the radio was still enabled.
[Moto X General] BrownDog99:
Are you on stock 5.1 for your exact same phone? Like I'm running a xt1053 stock rom, on my Rogers xt1058. I waited for a developer to make a lollipop rom that didn't update the bootloader because of all the complaints and I am glad I did because I think I will go back. I have cell stanby by drain when data is on, I have a speaker phone that only works when there's WiFi and Google now only response when it wants. Oh ya, the chop flashlight doesn't work. I was hoping these things would work once I put the correct rom with the correct model which some people have had happen

---------- Post added at 09:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 AM ----------

I get around 6 hours on lollipop. Low screen brightness, greenify, wake lock detectors, battery doctor, power nap. Right now I'm at 2.5 hrs screen time at 60% battery
[Moto X General] bushako:
Using latest CM12.1 with latest tdhlite kernel on Smartmax governed. Greenified and PowerNap. I think that's not bad at all.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] toroloco73:
my battery life is ridiculous

usually switch on from 8 to 22, switch off during the night, be careful to charge all the device life...

my moto x xt1052 is 19 mounths old, but now with kk rom or lollipop rom the phone not coming to dinner....

switch off....

i start in the morning at 100%, with all services ON, until 50% draining seems ok, then go quickly to 30% or less, then to 15% with warning battery low.... and then in 30 minutes switch off alone....completely empty.... non more than 1,5 h screen on....
[Moto X General] a1exus:
My motorola XT1096 battery averages 10h 40m 0s (6h 23m 0s active usage) on a single charge.

Help, plz! This battery is a disaster(
[Moto X General] aledex:
I don't know what happened, but I don't see screen usage anymore on battery stats (it doesn't show up) and battery performance seems to got better even with mobile cell standby high usage (50% after 36 hours). Does anyone have the same behavior?
[Moto X General] mikeosu:
Anyone with an xt1060 on Verizon figured out what the deal is with major cell standby drain on 5.1? Or at least having this issue?
[Moto X General] d4mi3n:
Okay, thanks!
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Here they are. Also, if you're familiar with Autostarts I would suggest going through and disabling all the stuff you don't want to run without your say so. It helps a lot, though I was getting great battery life before I did that.

EDIT: DON'T FREEZE LAUNCHER UNLESS YOU HAVE ANOTHER INSTALLED
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
clicking thanks wouldn't do it justice. im pretty drunk and freezing everything you did (barring im on verizon so not everything) without worrying about screwing the system up was the easiest improvement to this phone i will ever do (besides rooting it, i mean i did have to click the freeze button and all...). much appreciated sir.

edit: as i said that my phone froze. and I think im going to have to fxz it because it is stuck at boot screen with verizon logo. i did freeze two verizon apps that you didn't mention but Im pretty sure they were harmless. anyhow, bed time won't come as early as i thought.

edit2: i think the launcher might have been the problem. Went back and had to enable every package with adb(that was a lot of packages and took a loooonngggg time) because i was stuck in a weird boot. Got it all solved, but i think i froze a launcher or something to do with it. just happy it booted so i could get to adb. didn't want to reflash.ill try again sober ha
[Moto X General] mazubo:
On my first run, I cracked the 5hr mark! 2 nd run was 4. 25 hrs, and this run is tbd... I personally don't mind being ocd about my battery :rolleyes:
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
You can't freeze your launcher if you don't have another one installed! I'm running Nova which is why I froze the stock one. I probably should have mentioned that but didn't even think about it, so apologies there. Glad you got it all figured out, that must have been super annoying to do.
[Moto X General] akoe:
Pretty mild usage for me. I was at work all day and used my phone for about 2 hours of music and occasional texting. All LTE too.

I'm just so happy I can get home and not have to charge it over night and still be able to use it the next day. Unlike my old GNex

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[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
haha, ya it seems so clear after i realized it but in my state of mined at 1am i didn't really put two and two together. I might go back through the list and and just not do the launcher this time. I felt uncomfortable freezing the things I wasn't too sure about but I said wth and then all of a sudden, I realized why i don't toy with my phone when im drunk ha. i still had adb access so it wasn't all bad.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
do you know which of the apk's that you froze have to do with motorola connect? I still want to use that and I know I froze it. Can't figure out which apk or bundle of apk's i need to unfreeze to get it to work. Don't want to unfreeze useless ones.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
You owe me for this one lol. Just went through and unfroze/refroze everything to narrow it down. Unfreeze the following and you should be good to go:

Motorola Connect 1.0 (obviously)

Motorola ID 1.0

Motorola Services 6

Motorola Services Main 1.0
[Moto X General] Aarongauntt:
Froze everything on your list. My whole point earlier was that I don't disagree with what you've done, I just think it should be better out of the box. Anyway, any idea what on your list could be causing SMS to come in delayed?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I think we can all agree that all these devices should be better out of the box. That said, the Moto X has had the best out of box experience of any phone I've ever had. That doesn't mean I won't tinker with it though.

I don't think anything I froze would affect your SMS. My messages come in right away. Do you have Sprint by any chance? I know that Sprint is pretty notorious for delayed messages. One of my work buddies has Sprint and he gets his messages minutes later than the rest of us in a group text.
[Moto X General] Aarongauntt:
Agree with that, im obviously rooted but don't feel the need to ROM. Sprint yeah but its something I've noticed in the last 12 hours. Ah well if its that important they can call. :cool: upon further digging I'm getting stuff late from other sprint customers only. Go figure
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
much appreciated. I did the same but couldn't narrow it down. I got 3 of 4 that you posted lol. Motorola id 1.0 was what i was missing. thank you greatly. out of curiosity. since you don't use moto connect how did you test to see which ones were the ones that killed it? I have mine on and it wouldn't sync so thats how i was checking.

and really thanks again. i know that had to be a huge PITA.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Simple, I turned connect on and kept testing until I narrowed it down. It wasn't that big of a PITA, it gave me an excuse to play with my phone some more (as if I needed one haha). :good:

Question for you, since you use connect- on your computer, does the connect window show contact names for your conversations or just phone numbers? Even when I first got the phone only 4 or 5 convos actually had the name of the person, and the rest just had phone numbers. When a text comes in, it shows the contact name in the popup, but once I go back to the list view, only numbers are there. That's one of the main reasons I decided not to use moto connect.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i think it is based on either google contacts or something. I haven't gotten my connect to work again yet. still trying. I think my motorola id 1.0 might be called motorola checkin 1.0. I'm stil working to get it up. It's not up yet so I can't really tell you if it will update all my contacts correctly. I have many names on there. But i just got my contacts uploaded yesterday around the same time i froze all that stuff so only certain names are up. I have pictures of some people that don't have names but phone numbers like you were describing. I think it has to do with whom the contact info was saved. google, facebook, verizon/at&t contacts back up, etc.

edit: after you unfreeze everything you must go back into settings then motorola id then re tell it which google account to use. I got it working now.

edit2: contacts that came from verizon backup assistant do not have their names next to them in the non-pop window. Ill look into a fix but I don't have many from verizon so I haven't paid attention much.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Every single one of my contacts is a google contact, all associated with the account that I am using for connect. Weird that only a small handful show the names. Let me know if you figure anything out.