yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xoom Android Development] NWinfuse:
KitKat is supposed to run on devices with only 512mb RAM so hopefully that will make it easier to get going on our Xooms since it should run well on lower spec devices
[Xoom Android Development] realjumy:
No idea.

As far as I know it was dropped for the apps, and only temporally except for Google Now. Maybe I'm wrong...

RAM is not space. The problem with the Xoom is the internal storage (space).
[Xoom Android Development] drewski_1:
yes, Google dropped support of non-Neon devices with JB 4.2 which is one reason there was no official 4.2 for Xoom
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
KITKAT

Factory Images "hammerhead" for Nexus 5 (GSM/LTE)

KRT16M

is here:

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#hammerhead

When you see this nice page it's very good to be maried with Nexus

Why not the same for Motorola ? owner Google

Factory image Honeycomb 411 Mo Factory image Kitkat 423 Mo

Hope a wingray or everest version more easy compare this 4.3
[Xoom Android Development] realjumy:
That's the current problem with almost all products in market: they are designed to fail/be too old in a short time to keep on selling new products. It's a shame, but it's what we have. They don't build and sell to last a long time. A real shame...
[Xoom Android Development] alex_72gr:
Hi dreamcwli what happened to you? You promeced to make a release for everest. Have you given up with the development of this ROM?
[Xoom Android Development] notbrodie:
Did you read the post right above yours? If not, try following the link and assisting

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Xoom Android Development] Lothaen:
presumably there is low chance in a 4.4 with the current partition then? just wondering.
[Xoom Android Development] notbrodie:
considering that the 4.4 image i flashed to my nexus4 was 380mb... i'm gonna guess it's a very slim chance with the current setup. why don't you head over the other thread and see if you can provide any help
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.4

Originally it's a threat from [MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION] with the first 4.3 Wingray working

But no news about him, what's happened?
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Still no stingray yet of this
[Xoom Android Development] hawkstorm:
they were figuring out a way to help with the partition problems that were causing memory issues with 4.3/4.4. If you go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2506997 you'll see what they were up to.
[Xoom Android Development] illyfilly:
Thanks for this great ROM. I have run into a problem in that after doiing the Repartition I have lost root. What's the easiest way/beast way to root? I haven't done it on my XOOM in forever.
[Xoom Android Development] shpitz461:
Root is not working cause we're missing busybox. BRD said he'll address this issue, just sit and wait...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47668115&postcount=320
[Xoom Android Development] drewski_1:
in the BigPart thread mcfisch posted a recovery flashable busybox

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47659064#post47659064
[Xoom Android Development] shpitz461:
yeah, just saw that, thanks!
[Xoom Android Development] mcfisch:
I've built my own fix to get back root, you can find it here.
[Xoom Android Development] waz675:
Booted my xoom for the 1st time in months. Time for a brush up of OS and stuff on it. Thanks :D
[Xoom Android Development] thdj:
still under dev ?

Hello

I'm currently using the 4.3 09/09 version which is quite nice. Is the development still active because there are still some graphic glitches (ex when keyboard is displayed )?

Other than that version is working fine:)

Hw acceleration doesn't seem to be effective though

Thanks for your hard work.
[Xoom Android Development] jepe63:
Will this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2506997 work with this release of 4.3 ?
[Xoom Android Development] shpitz461:
Yep, just use aosp_4.3_BigPart_boot_image.zip .
[Xoom Android Development] CBDSonline:
if you read through the thread you will find quite a few users have dreams 4.3 running with root on big partitions.. follow the instructions on page one to re partition and find the message with the new/hacked root boot.img if you require root privs
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Any 4.3 for stingray yet
[Xoom Android Development] Asphyx:
BigRushDog posted yesterday that 4.3 for Xoom Stingray is a dead issue but 4.4 Is still a possibility.

But no promises it will come to pass....
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Do you have a link to it
[Xoom Android Development] scottgti:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47948307
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.4 KITKAT

Hi [MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION],

you don't come back with a wingray 4.4 for christmas? :laugh:
[Xoom Android Development] dreamcwli:
It has been a busy year and I think I finally can make some time to continue this project. I will make a complete 4.3 ROM first since it is the last release without the buggy Chromium WebView. I don't feel comfortable with the BigPart approach so I will try to build 4.4 ROM with better compatibility for non-BigPart ROMs. Hope we can have these builds ready before the Chinese New Year (1/31).

Happy New Year!
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Maybe for stingray?
[Xoom Android Development] Geeba:
Happy New Year dreamcwli!

Glad to hear you're going ahead with more development! :fingers-crossed:

Just curious what are you not comfortable with BigPart? I would of thought that more system and a larger cache would only help things?:confused: I thought you were involved with that and the Omni ROM?
[Xoom Android Development] dreamcwli:
I didn't make any contribution on the BigPart solution. The BigPart approach makes it compicated to switch between ROMs with and without BigPart support. Personally I prefer to make it simple for users to manage their devices.

OmniROM is created by Schischu using some of source code commited by CyanogenMod, Team EOS and me in our repositories. The open source spirit is the actual power behind the success of entire Android community.
[Xoom Android Development] kruga:
Hi dreamcwli, Would appreciate this, especially if it is made for Everest (3G/MZ601). I would like to use 4.3/4.4 but want to fall back on 4.12 as it works lag free (EOS 123). This is the biggest reason I haven't moved on to Bigpart.

Maybe you can use the SLIM GAPPS (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2265564). I am currently using the 4.12 version with EOS 123 nightly and they work fine.
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.4 KITKAT

Good news [MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION]

I agree your approach of development.

I test with my MZ601 (without 3G, i stop my contract) the last omni wingray with ART system, work very fast without lags.

But a big problem for me, a lot of codecs and plugins don't work so impossible to watch TV etc... and the micro HDMI don't work.
[Xoom Android Development] b1g1an:
HDMI works fine on OMNI, just tried it.

Would prefer a more vanilla experience if possible though.
[Xoom Android Development] kuskro:
Great to know your are on duty again.

Please try to build a complete 4.3 ROM first, KK is a pain in the neck with apps compatibility and ART is just another trick for VM.

Thanks in advance.
[Xoom Android Development] 7ravler:
Happy New Year you genius. Glad to see you back.

You think you'll ever be able to put some energy towards the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 2014? I think they need your help ;)
[Xoom Android Development] zubr0w:
Happy new year to you m8, since I've discovered your work, I haven't gone back to anything else. And I sooo approve your non big part approach. See you soon

Envoyé de mon GT-I9305 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xoom Android Development] sigfridov:
New life for the Xoom
[Xoom Android Development] parkentosh:
I don't get it. BigPart installation is really easy (you just need a microsd card). Just as easy as flashing a ROM (easier than flashing a ROM on my HTC One X).
[Xoom Android Development] sigfridov:
The hard part of BigPart instruction start at the point 9).

In this point the developer talk about ROM BOOT and other files wihich in case of OMNI ROM are not necesary to flash, It is creating a big confusion, even with some seniors members.

I agree with you that to get BigPart works fine is just a few more steps and so easy as to flash any ROM, but again, the full process described in the thread is producing some mistake in the readers.
[Xoom Android Development] parkentosh:
Point 9? Point 9 is installing a ROM. Point 8 is the last point of bigpart mod.

In my view it's like this: Boot to recovery and flash bigpart recovery -> While still in old recovery wipe all but sdcard -> Reboot recovery (new recovery is booted now) -> Wipe data, wipe system, wipe cache -> All done! Now ready to flash a rom

Really easy.... That's how I did it...

Edit: I understood finally what you ment by point 9... You only have to flash bigpart boot if the ROM is not compatible. Newer rom's are all compatible (omni and cm11). Older ones only work with bigpart kernel (like cm10.x or eos).
[Xoom Android Development] P00r:
For me the line between big part and the native format lie more into a user preference, once a ROM is released without big part it is possible to make it work give a few tweak ie making the correct boot IMG, that said my preference lie in big part since the trim command work with this format

If it is released without root then it get much more complicated tho...
[Xoom Android Development] notbrodie:
you don't even need a microsd card. you can use adb sideload to do everything

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
ART

I run for the moment Omni wingray animation 0.25, Cpu 1.4, ART engine, Apex launcher free and there is a big difference compare JB 4.2.2 and 4.3

The tab is very more fast and reactive, very stable.
[Xoom Android Development] Winesnob:
Back to 4.2.2 for now - can't get the Xoom to wake up after walking away for a few minutes unless I reboot. Standing by for the next build...
[Xoom Android Development] Lothaen:
TRIM is built into 4.3 I believe
[Xoom Android Development] dreamcwli:
I think I forgot to include some changes to keep hwcomposer working properly. It will be fixed in next build.

Maybe you can ask Team Rogue for unofficial CM 10.2 builds?

Migrating to kernel with major version change is hard for me since I am not an experienced kernel developer. I don't think I have much time for it so it is better to work on the system first.
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
Thank you.
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
I am most impressed with the responsiveness of 4.3 on the Xoom. This is quite impressive. Maybe a placebo affect of a new version but so far sweet. I know a few glitches and some additional improvements will even make it better.
[Xoom Android Development] Cameron581:
Can you add halo just wondering
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Booted up great on Wingray. Was able to restore data from 4.2.2 without problem. Updated SU, binaries and busybox. Can't oc more than 1000? :beer::D
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
Mine was running at 1600 using SetCPU profiles without problem.

Swyped from my xoom
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Did you install a custom kernel? When I tried, received error message that the kernal does not permit of or custom voltages.
[Xoom Android Development] uzi2:
As far as I know, there is no custom kernel to install. It was the standard install with BaNkS core gapps and amended SuperSu. I'm back to 4.2.2 for now, but will test again when updates are released.

Swyped from my xoom
[Xoom Android Development] sibax:
I can confirm the universal elemental x kernel works great and allows over clocking to 1.7ghz combine this performance with 4.3 and web browsing is blisteringly fast. Awesome ROM made even better with a great kernel (also originating from the genius dreamcli)

---------- Post added at 12:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 AM ----------
[Xoom Android Development] Dyelon:
Looking forward to installing this in the near future. Thanks for your work dude
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Is 1.2 the latest version? I d loaded that one. Seems OK.

---------- Post added at 09:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 PM ----------

OK, so now that we have a nice working 4.3 test ROM, what are the advances in version 4.3?

Since I restored my data from 4.2.2 it looks pretty much the same. Would someone provide a short synopsis?
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
Over clocked with same 1.2 Kernel and Set CPU. Now time for a backup.
[Xoom Android Development] Winesnob:
Google searches are amazing tools.

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

---------- Post added at 07:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 PM ----------

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7172/whats-new-in-android-43
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
MZ601

Nothing for UMTS Everest wifi + 3g ?
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
Dream.. I have been using as my daily since Saturday. I started with a upgrade flash. It worked fine. Overclocking stable. About to wipe and do a clean install. Very nice work. A couple of issues - already known. And really with the Graphic issue I can still find the OK button. Things like WiFi, Bluetooth, Camera all seem to work.
[Xoom Android Development] tumpy:
You are correct, Much faster with elemental kernel the shield kernel do not work..
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
Very responsive with clean install and kernel over clocked. Seems stable also. All good. Thank you.
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Thanks, although I was looking for more of an explanation of what we will notice. It seems that not much has changed except minor performance, security and wireless connectivity tweaks? Or is there something I am missing?

Improvements in 4.3 aside, great work Dream in developing the first and to my knowledge only fully functional 4.3 Rom for the Xoom. :cool: :beer:
[Xoom Android Development] kuskro:
Hi dude, you are right about our xoom performance with ART. The problem right now is the compatibility with different apps, let me explain that, some professional apps projects (email exchange, vpn tunnels, etc...) are skeptical about the way ART precharge in the virtual machine the apps because of security reasons, that the reason why ART is still an option and not the official VM for android. Dalvik charges the apps in the virtual machine in the moment you use the apps, it is like charge an OS inside of another OS (android), there is not precharging, it happens just in time and stored in Dalvik cache.

The ART precharging is like Windows "prefetch", it is a technique used in linux process to speed up the execution of an app by reducing wait states, but in the end, it is more vulnerable and less simple. The dalvik VM is more simple and secure because dalvik encapsulates the apps in a better way. With Dalvik the app developers have to be so creative to create efficient apps to be charged just in time, with ART you can be lazier in your apps creation.

Best.
[Xoom Android Development] sigfridov:
Nice classes, like school

Thanks for your valued information, really clear to understand.

As you can see, like in Linux, always you will have the chance to use some tool that speed up your equipment but instead security risks...

A lot of people do not understand what that really means, for that reason MS Windows remain in the position that they are.

Thanks again

---- I moved to Dalvik instead of ART, so no big changes experienced. Benchmark decrease a few, but no big issues ---
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.3 4.4

Hello [MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION].

Some news about your developpment ?
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.4

新年快樂木馬
[Xoom Android Development] sigfridov:
No News?

Some approach to KitKat or full 4.3 JB?
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
News

Hi [MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION]

What news ?
[Xoom Android Development] badaas:
Use omni rom bigpart.

sent from a phone etc.
[Xoom Android Development] coro1937:
What about the graphic glitches, how bad it is now?

It seems to me that people forgot about this.

Mz604 TWRP 2.6.3.0 R.A.H BigPart Edition Recovery, cm11
[Xoom Android Development] dreamcwli:
Tried to use JWR66Y as the base but there seem to have no improvement on graphic glitches. The graphic system has changed much so it may take some time to fix it. I will keep working on the ROM based on JSS15Q and start adding features and tuning performance. Hope we can have the graphic issue solved soon.
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.3

I flash my lovely XOOM mz601 with this new ROM

Work perfect for the configuration Language, Wifi etc....

Only 2 problems 1. The screen make strange reactions when open or close app.

2. I flash Su + elemental kernel 1.2 but no overcloking appear in thé menu Super Developper

But funy to test before CM ans CodefireX

Don't forger UMTS Everest

Very good job thank's you for this porting
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
I had to use SetCPU or anther over clocking piece of software. Hope that helps.
[Xoom Android Development] Blondblueyed_girl:
Well done for getting 4.3 running on the Xoom mz604. Had it on for a few days so far, quite stable and nice and smooth.

I was supprised to find Google body working OK as it was not on my previous ROM and was told by someone it would not work on 4.2 and above.

Nice so far.
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
So from what I'm seeing nothing as of yet for the stingray build
[Xoom Android Development] hawkstorm:
Do the radios work on everest? The 3G/HSPA?
[Xoom Android Development] SnoDrtRider:
Dreamcwli barely has the WINGWAY ROM working... It is still experimental. I am pretty sure he has said he only has Wingway to test on and someone else needs to test and troubleshoot both Stingray and Everest.

Give it a try and help Dreamcwli out... maybe you two can get 4.3 working on your individual versions of Xoom.
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
How I have a mz 600 Verizon. Stingray Kwangju test it but how do I help I'm not a dev I had 4.3 (10.2) on my epic 4g it has radio issues no data 3g or 4g as of yet I hear this is a major problem in the 10.2 builds
[Xoom Android Development] SnoDrtRider:
That is why Wingway is the first to have a ROM ported it is easiest. Not saying there is anything easy about it I should say not as difficult.

I am not a developer either but I have learned two things.

1/ If you want to be first in line have a WiFi only device

2/ Do not to bug the developers who do this for free.

Most developers only do this in their spare time and have real jobs that they are responsible for, if you do not want to learn to write code the only thing to do is be patient and let the developers do the amazing things they do to keep our ancient devices up to date.
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Exactly I knows this so I wait
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
Graphic issue

Hello Dreamcwli,

Hard job to find an issue for this graphic problem?
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
[MENTION=2383306]dreamcwli[/MENTION] congratulations on getting xoom running again! I know your legacy hwcomposer and selinux work was hard. With your blessing, I like to cherry-pick some of your work. Some of the guys I'm working with now are very talented C programmers, much like you and definitely not like me lol. They may be able to contribute and advance Tegra2 development on 4.3.

Again congratulations! You lead the xoom way now sir.
[Xoom Android Development] dreamcwli:
Hi, bigrushdog! It's nice to know that I can help a little on your project. In fact I have less time on porting 4.3 so it is good to see you guys working on it. Hope we can deal with the remaining problems soon and bring users better support of 4.3 on their Xoom.
[Xoom Android Development] nsmac84:
Installed this yesterday. Thanks for the hard work and keeping the Xoom alive!
[Xoom Android Development] alamd:
umts_everest for a build will be released ? (MZ601)

Inviato dal mio Xoom con Tapatalk 4
[Xoom Android Development] Blondblueyed_girl:
Well said brd
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
4.3

The "EOS Dream 4.3"

Wingray-Stingray-Umts Everest

Nice project

Bigrushdog and Dreamcwli you're two sizes Android a very large thank you !!!
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Thanks Dreamcwli and BRD! Nice to see your collaboration. I am greatful to have my Xoom on 4.3 as a DD, even though it's encrypted. Don't know how long you can keep this device alive and on the leading edge, but I'm amazed that it has a chance to stay relevent until 5.0 is released. :beer:
[Xoom Android Development] audioblivious:
Do you have a link to that
[Xoom Android Development] grussinko:
Looks like my Xoom gets yet another new lease on life. Not bad for a 2.5 year old tablet that I bought refurbished on the cheap. :) Looking forward to further development! :good:
[Xoom Android Development] zhangsta:
When I used setcpu, the highest it went was 1000. Am I doing something wrong?
[Xoom Android Development] Winesnob:
As far as I know, the current ROM is pure AOSP, without the OC tweak that was on My Android 4.2.2. Once Dream and the gang are able to work out some of the graphics issues I think it will be back.
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Use Elemental X kernel and you can OC to 1700:cool:
[Xoom Android Development] 7ravler:
What makes you think they'll stop at 5.0?
[Xoom Android Development] matt4321:
Because support for non-neon devices will be fully dropped, our system partition is strugling as it is and our Tegra 2 processor isn't top of the range anymore. Having said that, we may get something, but don't be surprised if we don't
[Xoom Android Development] jwbtx:
Indeed... I'm still running 4.1.1 and have thought several times to either upgrade or go buy a new tablet but procrastinated, but my Xoom runs fine the way I liked it. Now, definitely going to upgrade to 4.3 soon.

Thanks Dream for kick starting the Xoom again....

jwb
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Originally Posted by 7ravler:

What makes you think they'll stop at 5.0?

Yeah! What he said. :D
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
Will be dropped? It's been dropped already. All non neon related flags were removed from bionic in 4.3. As well as legacy hwcomposer and not to mention the story we all know with gapps. And don't forget CyanogenMod has officially dropped non neon support as well. So yes, Xoom has fought an uphill battle from day 1. Yet, we prevail. Why? Because we choose to. [/end quote from Neo]
[Xoom Android Development] matt4321:
This is why the Xoom wins!
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
That is why developers such as BRD and Dream are so good and talented. Thank you.
[Xoom Android Development] TheMan0790:
*drops the mic*
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
We prevail because of you, Deamcwli, RnH and other developers that have kept our Xoom GED at the cutting edge. 4.3 wow!!!:p
[Xoom Android Development] valent|n0:
I love your work

thank you for porting this rom for our xoom
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
Hey guys, need a couple testers just to see if the build flashes. We're all in early development and I know it's dreams thread and I love dreams. So before you say anything, save your drama for your mama :silly::D:laugh::highfive:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45225653&postcount=439
[Xoom Android Development] matt4321:
I'll go test
[Xoom Android Development] Alxoom33:
Downloading now....:)
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
Test

I test on my MZ601

I have optical fibre connection but slow download for jour fresh build
[Xoom Android Development] chykal:
Failed to flash on my Stingray. I don't have the error message but I did save the twrp log if you need it. Thanks for all your work.
[Xoom Android Development] pots22:
Fresh failed

Directly update.zip "Failed" :laugh:
[Xoom Android Development] bigrushdog:
Yep. I was trying to be cute and get away without messing with release tools. I'll have another round today. Thanks testers! You are braver than you know.
[Xoom Android Development] logitechor:
Hi BRD

I used to be more careful about flashing but I have a good backup. I can if need be attach to computer. I have more confidence bringing back a device that is softbricked. Thanks for all you do. It is appreciated and fun.