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[Nexus 4 Android Development] hello247:
Trying neo kernel for first time. Quite impressed with it on carbon rom. Will give it a few days to settle.

Thanks ramgear
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
you do realize that nominal has absolutely nothing to do with if your phone can run/handle 1944 or 2052mhz? nominal has everything to do with the voltage table for your phone, not if your phone can run a cpu speed. my phone is nominal, and i can run 1944 fine :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
Can you point me to source for implement this high freqs please?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Gallardo994:
Awesome kernel. But I think it should include some stable undervolt by default :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Stable for who? All phones are different and can handle different amounts. I think stock is perfect with the ability to UV as much as you want.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
i was going to write the same thing.. one persons/phones stable can be another persons/phones unstable. some can undervolt extremely, some cant even undervolt 25mV. and some need to raise default voltages slightly for best stability.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Vangelis13:
And Simms has his phone. Separate category altogether..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mumaster20:
Dont know if this is a kernel or rom related problem, but posting it here anyways.

On a random moment I would try to unlock my phone, and the touch input stops working.

Not a single touch gets registered whenever I try to unlock my phone. Only a hard reboot could fix it. This has happened 2 times already this evening.

I do have s2w activated, which could be the cause of my problem, so I disabled it for now.

Running the latest version of psx by the way.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
my only experience with binning first hand on the n4.. faster binning = sucks, nominal binning = awesome. i had to return my first n4 within 16 hours(faster binned), it wouldnt read sim cards. and.. i even had an rlod with it within that time frame! my nominal has never had rlod, even with trying to get rlod. and its been a rock solid phone overall :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] benrees21:
Mine is just fast. A release day N4! It's been solid since day 1. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
if you can catch the event in a logcat, or another type of log ill look at it. if it still happens with s2w disabled of course.

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:15 PM ----------

still doesnt disprove that faster binned = sucks ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
I have a nominal that sucks....I cant benchmark over 1782 on any kernel.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
have you tried a kernel where you can adjust the voltage at 1836mhz? on 4.2.2, i had to adjust the voltage of every trinity kernel at 1836mhz up to 1275mV, no more/no less, or i had issues, or wouldnt run. but at 1275mV at 1836mhz, no issues and it ran like the wind :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
I havent...but I will...Quadrant first as its safer ;) I get RLOD's all the time on Antutu....had one the other day on stock kernel....so weird.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
It is S2W problem, it will occur after you reboot and do nothing till screen off.

BTW, this problem will fix next release. You can use power button for problem above.

Edit: actually I comment this problem in post #3 on first start thread. Btw, so boring to sweep or do something after reboot. Then fix in next version. :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] danielsf:
I have a faster binned chip in my nexus 4 and I got the device the day it was launched here in the UK and I've never had rlof. Every SoC is unique but I can get to 2ghz on this kernel stable on 1275mV, the same as I believe you said you have to use for 1.8ghz on your nominal binned chip. :) My faster chip to be perfectly stable at 1.8ghz [MENTION=1210848]117[/MENTION]5mV. I don't mean to be bad to your experiences at all but faster is the highest binned varrient of our SoC and is therefore good :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] stavca:
hey guys, I'm new on the Nexus forum and have a few questions :)

I'd like to try this kernel but it says in changelog that thermal protection was removed?? is it safe??

what about Sweep2wake?? how it affects battery life??

there are 2 versions to download, one with ramdisk and one without it, which one should I use and why?? if anyone could tell me the difference...

this kernel is JSS, so it's for aftermarket ROMs like PAC I use?? I googled but don't know if understood correctly :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] IRX120:
I have fast and 1.8 works OK for normal use, but benchmarking usually results in a crash of quadrant or a reboot at 1.8 or higher

Sent from my Nexus 4 [NEO [MENTION=4149147]1.8[/MENTION]36 GHz] on [PSX v4.1 4.3]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Same here. Otherwise, great kernel! I'm using it for my daily driver.

I'm not sure how it stacks up compared to the other kernels out there so far since I got my nexus 4 just 2 days ago. Anybody have any comparisons there?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
I get a reboot at 2054Mhz but it quite fine upto 1944 ! :silly:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hello247:
Same. Playing with the voltages for 2.0 to see if i can get it to run on my fast binned nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
What's "fast bin" - does that mean you got a higher bin sorted CPU or is it a software thing, or kernel?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] szucsgf:
It's a hardware thing.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2052496

[POLL] CPU Binning
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Thanks. Faster :)

Any suggestion on the tunables for the governors, the schedulers, hotplug, sound, touch filter, screen wake, etc? There's not really a "how to" on setting those for best balance of battery and speed/smoothness.

Either way, I've tweaked my voltages heavily...this is all running stable, with my max CPU freq set at 1.9 per core ...great kernel!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
What is your voltage at 1.9?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Testing on gpu freq boost on touch and work great. :D

Edit: currently I boost gpu freq on touch to 320 mhz (available 128/200/320/400/487/533). Anyone want to share your thinking please let me know. 200 or 320.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stormblessed:
Ey Ram, just for let me know, in Neo 010 can you add 533mhz frequency on Gpu? :o
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Sure, just enable config.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
(Sorry these are big)

Voltages:

http://imgur.com/ehGorqz

http://imgur.com/C7Xklj3

Benchmarks:

http://i.imgur.com/bWJwYIw.png
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stormblessed:
Fast as always, thank you :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
These benchmarks are at 1.9 ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Yes, but I get roughly the same score between 1.8 and 1.9.

Am also using sio with read ahead set to 2048 and the interactive sched. GPU is at 487 with on demand.

Note my processor is binned as faster so....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
You run at hot temp?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Too less for 1.9 ! I get 21.6k at 1.5ghz ! On psx rom
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
Yes ... but the factor X is always present .... ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
It runs cool all day. The only time it really heats up is if I run the antutu stability test or something else that pegs all 4 cores at 100% for a long period of time.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Get psx ROM , the scores will rise by at least 2k
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
I'm running an alternative launcher, the jellybro rom, and I do have a live wallpaper going, with a bunch of background services. I'd be a lot better off if I didn't have all that stuff running, but TBH I care more about how it feels than how the benchmarks look.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Hahaha ! I have live wallpapers running all the time , also all the processes are running ! Post your quadrant score

This is mine at 1512
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Does it have all/most of the CM features? I must have quick pin unlock, the various sound and vibration settings, etc.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
If you are looking for quiet hours and stuff , they will come in the future builds :) the Dev is very compliant and listens to everyone !!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] clockworkstop:
Check over on the PSX thread. I answered you :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
http://i.imgur.com/vlTSo2O.png
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Really? I heard he's kind of a tool ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
See the difference in CPU scores ! To me that would be enough for a switch ! :sly:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
I'm not sure if CPU matters as much as IO and memory performance, tbh.

Either way, I think I actually get better performance on the benchmarks with jellybro. Yes, CPU is higher on your ROM, but the graphics and RAM take a hit:

http://imgur.com/EkWuUsE

I also have things undervolted quite a bit, but since that's all CPU I'm not sure what to make of all this other than the fact my CPU may score a little lower, but I can undervolt pretty well.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
What kernel is that?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Neo 9

Posted benchmarks in my previous post, btw.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Thats why....the other is stock....or at least I get around 7800 on stock kernel. Neo is around 81-8200 at 1512.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Maybe my undervolt settings are causing the lower numbers...

Either way, I can't feel a difference between the two roms, etc...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
First of all undervolt doesn't affect performance ! Second , my 1512 runs at .975 volts so can't say that I haven't uv'ed !

---------- Post added at 11:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 PM ----------

I'm currently on Franco !
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
All things considered, I'm not sure why I'm performing like this, then - it's a "Faster" CPU, I've tried your rom and euroskank, both using neo's kernel with the same settings.

Yours gave better CPU results but I get better overall with euroskank...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
So I just installed Neo 009.....1512=8300 1728=9300 1836=9500
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Seriously ? No crash on such low voltages ? I'm switching to neo
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
So I guess my hardware is binned fast - but it's weird that it isn't performing as expected. What IO scheduler and other such settings are you using?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Since we both have a faster CPU , would you be kind enough to tell me your UV settings ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Ondemand

Deadline 1024

min/max the same

fsync off

throttle off

crappy nominal chip....shocked I could finish at 1836.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
They're posted a page or two back...

When I checked the dmesg output it said "4" instead of "faster," but I think that's due to the custom kernel. I'm also using an encrypted /data and storage so that knocks me down a bit, I'd say.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
I also get 4 , its due to android 4.3 ! And Franco's app tells me chip type " fastest "
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Its depend on kernel return value for cpu binning. Some kernel return as readable text, some return number. Actually it easily to fix but its not often use and no problem. :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Exactly...how many times do you really need to know what speed your CPU is binned. Great work on 009 BTW!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
[MENTION=2064683]ramgear[/MENTION] would you recommend a Dalvik wipe after flashing neo ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Just 1 time and never check again.

Bcuz I already knew it is nominal and it cant change to b fast or faster :p (Just joking)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
You havent seen the commit for that ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Yup, you will get better perfomance.

But you need to wait too long time on boot (just 1st boot).
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Ahhhh, may b I should check commit again.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
I'm running encrypted out of paranoia, but I'm going to do a full titanium backup to dropbox and then wipe as a clean slate...

I'll try PSX and/or euroskank with quadrant and nothing else installed...just the kernel settings and such.

From there, I'll go with what's fastest. I suspect my encrypted partition is slowing things down.

Oh, and I'm running a hybrid radio - it's the 33-54-84. Should I try a different radio? LTE isn't even available from T-MO in my area (yet?) so I don't know why I even am doing this.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
PSX is very different then CM....unless you dont use/need most of those features you may be disappointed.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
The only CM specific features I require are alarm - always go off when vibe/silent, and the quick pin unlock. I also like voice+ and DSPManager but I should be able to sideload those.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Ok, I welcome all, just dont want users to be disappointed is all. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
I use CM out of habit because it was always the best rom on my gnex, so it was just a natural progression. I don't care so much about features beyond those I mentioned...

I don't know if/how radio versions would change my benchmarks. I do wonder if using the newer vanilla one without LTE would give me better signal everywhere though. I may go vanilla until LTE comes to my city. No point in having to reflash that hack every time I change roms.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
You know when I get fed up of Roms and hacks , I flash a factory image , install CWM and flash neo :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Ok, fair enough then....I also have a Maguro build out there if you still have that. Unless you meant Toro of course. I may try to build Toro again at some point.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
Factory isn't terrible but I MUST have quick pin unlock, otherwise I'll go nuts...

I used to roll my own for both my tenderloin and my toro, so I may start rolling my own stuff with my own choice cherry picks again someday...I actually have a 4u server with 16 cores and a total of 48ghz of processing power, with 64gb ram that I've been meaning to setup.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Wow....impressive. So you know about truly Pure Speed ;) Simple quad core (4.8GHZ) 8GB ram SSD here....still 10 minute clean builds though so I dont complain.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
It's a toro - I got my nexus 4 because verizon sucks and has been raping my wallet. :)

My parents still have unlimited so I gave my toro to my mom.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
I don't use factory :p just for a clean slate I flash it ! ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Added code to report PVS bin as text follow by cpu freq table.

This kernel has only 4 freq table 0-3 if you get 4 (unknown) may has problem.

My is Nominal.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Quick unlock not save enuf.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Neo-010-test1 is up to test folder.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
Tk

Any informations about the changes?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilikenwf:
I think he mentioned that 192mhz isn't in this version. Even if that's a change to the vanilla kernel, it could be forward ported easily...I'd prefer that, 192mhz saves battery.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] atxbang56:
I was missing something to flash. I'm on Vanir ROM and really like it's speed, I don't see difference with PSX

BANGed from my God Damned CoOl Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] amarb70:
First time trying this kernel and have a couple of questions, apologies if they've been answered before; I'm on the mobile XDA app so search is meh :\

1- when I use another kernel with a minimum freq of 162, it defaults to 192 or so and I have to manually change to 162 every time; why is that? O.o. This only happened after flashing neo 009.

2- I seem to have two 'neo' folders in my storage and can't seem to delete them, any idea on what to do?

I am on psx 5 btw :)

...sent from space
[Nexus 4 Android Development] szucsgf:
2. If you use TWRP, go into Recovery > Advanced and use the recovery's file manager to delete the folders.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dex2grigg:
All stock kernel settings all I did was turn off fsync :) with new 010 test!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Ton of change

s2w freez fix

gpg boost

etc

o

It hard to update many info since I move to new living place. I can connect to internet from mobile and it really slow and lazy to write many text. Actually here have wifi but ... $10/month... oh Thai' engineer really poor, my wife said you use from mobile is enuf :o

Y? It still there, I just change default to 384, not remove.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
TricksterMod and set on boot
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Force gpu rendering to improve ur 2d score
[Nexus 4 Android Development] amarb70:
Thank you szucsgf for your suggestion, it worked a charm :thumbup: but I don't seem to understand ramgear's response, sorry :S

...sent from space
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
When I arrived to my office I want to donate to you 30£ for 3 month .... :thumbup:

Of WiFi .... Don't stop your fantastic work

Do you have PayPal account for me is the only way?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
I'm in too, want to help.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
You guy too smart :thumbup:

Thank too much.

If my wife know, I think she wont blame me again on working for mobile ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
We glad to help you, please give us your Paypal address.

Create one if you don't have yet and add the "Donate" button in XDA ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Yah, verifying account.:D

Previously I have 10Mbps internet, now 64kbps on mobile. Thailand data service. :o
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Hahaha, answer you after wakeup. It different low freq, you can change to common 384 before change kernel or change after flash. If you use 384 min by default or flash other kernel with that has same min freq then no need to change.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Where did you live previously ? :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Rent house, there can use hi-speed internet. I moved to apartment due to I stay alone (previous we have 2-3 person). My wife go back to her home after my kid born :cool:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
My name is Tono. :cool:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Gallardo994:
I hope you grow a nice Nexus developer :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stark X:
Cute kid :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] snak3ater:
Attack your neighbour's wifi...Use your Hacking skills here..Make sure that the skill comes handy here :silly:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Stylez Ray.:
This made my day. Thank you :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Hahaha, u suggest me to do bad thing. :eek:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Gallardo994:
Come to Russia, I will share my 100mbit WiFi :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] snak3ater:
Hahahaha..:D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
To all,

The idea have been started by Arnakia1976.

He propose to share 30£ to Ramgear for 3 months, I will give 60€ (in 2 times).

We need to find a little more to complete a year!

For thoses who can/want to help him for a rock solid internet connexion just wait from Ramgear Paypal account verified and contact him by PM.

Thank you in advance.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Wowww, you too smart. Actually I dont want to disturb you all. But I think everyone who married will has same feelling for cost control by their wife. :p:p:p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
We are many user of your work, I think that is normal to help you in a way that we can.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
:D I can understand.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Neo-010 is up.

Change log in post#2

You can change GPU Boost freq step at /sys/android_touch/boost

Step: 128/200/320/400/487/533 mhz

Default: 2 (320 mhz)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
010 is very nice....awesome job as always.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Galaxo60:
Is this based on Matrix 10.5 or 11?.

:confused:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Scallywag1:
Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the great kernel. Been using this with crdroid ROM. Best battery life I've had to date with any kernel/ROM combo. I'll be spreading the word about this kernel. Really loving it.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Gallardo994:
2 great upgrades for today: crDroid 13 and NEO 10. This is gonna rock!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
010 at 1836...very nice!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
No nice ... f..k faaaaaast ......... ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PetritH:
Whats the battery with this kernel guys? im about to try this out =P
[Nexus 4 Android Development] un.droid:
any chance for a jwr version?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Gallardo994:
It's okay if you don't overclock it too high and set interactive while reading just some text :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PetritH:
k thanks my friend, gonna try out, looking for 4 h sot =)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] clockworkstop:
Thank you very much. Loving this kernel. it's the only one besides stock giving me the awesome butter of jellybean :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] whittikins:
Is the default governor for this kernel supposed to be Interactive or Ondemand? Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] clockworkstop:
Interactive

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] whittikins:
Thanks! Another question. Is this kernel only supposed to use the C0 and C2 states as Faux clock app indicates?

The regular Matr1x kernel appears to use C0 and C3 instead, and I'm just curious why different kernels use different ones. I believe stock uses C0 and C1.

C1, C2, and C3 seem to be chosen by the kernel dev. Just looking for more info.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] -JFK-:
It was on NEO 003 and PSX 4.1

Why can't I get more on the last one?

Should get almost the same!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
You're right.... 003 does bench better.

Replied with Pure Speed
[Nexus 4 Android Development] IRX120:
Out of curiosity how high could you push the GPU clocks? 700 or 800mhz? would it even make a difference?

Sent from my Nexus 4 [NEO [MENTION=4149147]1.8[/MENTION]36 GHz] on [PSX v5.0 4.3]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Thank for your info, from your score seem dalvik&3d better on 003. Btw, antutu also different version.

Will tune it back for performance. :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] THEBANDIT420:
Faux clocked his up to 600 MHz on 4.2.2 and I actually had less performance and more heat than on 487 mhz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Ya, dont know how much freq we can oc, dont have spec. But from my exp seem 487 can gain more performance.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
Well, just because it benches better doesnt mean if "feels" better.....I think 010 feels noticeably smoother than 003 with the same settings. I wouldnt change too much.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramgear:
Me too, but not bad if it smooth and good bench. Btw, smooth feelling is important than bench for me.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lesp4ul:
so it's for JSS only.... :crying:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ctfrommn:
For sure....I have to make those choices too....sucks to lose paper performance, but if I gain real performance its ok....just have to get past my OCD is all....:D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak:
Yes .... but you can use with jwr this zip for load library and then the kernel:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43710351

search for v1.2 (the latest)