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[Moto X General] zerogun:
Yep. That was my exact same problem too! The NLP wakelock is actually part of the Android OS process. If you use Better Battery Stats or Wakelock Detector, you can dig into the "android OS process" and you'll most likely see NLPWakeLock , LocationService, and LocationManagerService keeping your phone up a lot. I highly recommend WakeLock Detector. It's easier to read than Better Battery Stats, and it's FREE!

No, my main source of wakelock is the 1013 service, which handles music streaming. The way it should be :laugh:
[Moto X General] jjl468:
I don't see this wake lock in WLD, but I don't use Moto Assist. However, I never thought about Instagram being a battery hog so your suggestions still help. Thanks :)
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
so i have two locationservices in app ops. Looked at both. One hadn't checked my location in 2 days but it had kept my phone awake just 4 minutes prior. The other checked my location like 5 minutes ago but had never held the phone awake ever in its existence. I turn the one that held my phone awake 4 minutes ago off (or set it so it couldn't). Also curios as to what happens if you set google play services to not be able to keep the phone awake what the downfall might be.
[Moto X General] ram130:
So ...I'm on the official T-Mobile 4.4.² now. So far...interesting.
[Moto X General] jp1044:
TIP: For those of you who are trying to get better battery life out of your x and are disabling things in app ops. DO NOT disable keep awake for Google Play Services. It has the opposite effect. Once I disabled this my phone was constantly awake because of this and caused some serious drain.

I first tried disabling this because I noticed that play services woke up the phone a lot so I thought disabling keep awake in app ops would help. But I was wayyyy wrong.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Cool! R u participating in the soak test?
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Tell me more...
[Moto X General] rmead01:
I followed these steps but when I reboot touchless is listed listed under disabled apps but force stopped is NOT greyed out. I have to go in and force stop it after I reboot. Why would that be if I froze it with Tibu after uninstalling the updates and it shows up under disabled?
[Moto X General] Skoogusmaximus:
Wifi worse than Cell

I seem to have much worse standby time while connected to a solid wifi signal than I do not connected to wifi. This seems odd to me. Its still lightyears ahead of my old Gnex, but a little concerning that WIFI drains so fast.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
Yeah I noticed 2 as well.. Also turned that one off.. I guess we'll see what happens!

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Its out? or soak test? how?
[Moto X General] ram130:
I see. Same here. I realize this last week. It comes back on after a reboot. I'm guessing it's some system process protecting it. Just hit force stop again after a reboot. And see if you get an improvement in stand by. I've seen this similar behavior with other Moto system apps.

Well. Things are snappier, much smoother some how. Battery seems even more reliant during active use. Stand by drain seems the same but still testing on that. Or waiting a few more days to be sure. Haven't reset since I got the phone so that could be a factor.

Some bugs fixed. New slow mo edit ...etc. Doubt Moto will make any more changes though.

Waiting for things to settle since I had to recalibrate the battery as well.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
Really? Weird.. I treid this alst night but didn't notice a difference either way.. I'll just set it back to the way it was before, thanks.

What else can we turn off in app ops to help? Keep awake of other things? I have google play services, location services, android system, modem stats service, google search, and motorola slpc service using location.. I do use assist and google now so do need some of those..

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I've had the same experience and it seems odd to me as well. No idea why its like this.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
when i turned location services off for keeping awake in app ops i got terrible battery drain. almost 4% an hour over night. I also turned keep awake off for google calendar and some moto assist things. I think maybe that could have caused the issue. I went back and enabled everything again except for location services. I will try another test tonight and see what my drain looks like.

its not that the phone drains worse on wifi, its that the router it is connected to is constantly disconnecting and reconnecting wifi all the time thus constantly keeping your phone awake.

i haven't seen a solution to the problem but many people will have one router that kills their phone, then use a different one in their house and their phone goes back to draining less than when on mobile data. just an FYI.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Because Google Play services also have GCM for push notifications that some apps need. In most causes it's being used in the background or something...

I'd recommend not disabling any apps keep awake. Remember in 4.4.2 you won't have App ops anymore. You won't really need it. And I didn't get much benefit disabling things like that.
[Moto X General] zerogun:
Here is my latest battery cycle. Honestly, I don't know how anyone goes 5 hours SOT in a day. I needed two days to do it. Unless you take public transportation or something. Over night, I hat .8 / hour. Can't seem to get below that.

This is after turning off "keep awake" for location services and Moto Assist. I have touchless controls turned off, but do have Active Notifications turned on.
[Moto X General] Skoogusmaximus:
I've noticed it happening with the phone sitting on my couch 5 feet from the router. Doesn't happen with the S4, HTC One, or Gnex that are also in my house, all of those phones have great battery life when connected to the same router. Could this be a hardware or software issue then, the disconnecting?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
its a software issue IMHO but no one truly knows bc it hasn't been fixed with any updates. And it has nothing to with howw good your connection is (how close you are to the router). It is just the two devices talking to each other. I have tried 2.4 ghz and 5ghz and different channels and haven't found a solution. Its almost always software related though.
[Moto X General] tango41:
My battery life sucks. It was great when I first got my X. Something happened while still on 4.2.2 an has carried over to 4.4. I can't figure it out. With normal use about 90% in 9-10hrs.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] :
Do you have Gsam? Screen shots from it will help us...or you, figure out why.

Chances are something is keeping your phone from sleeping. Hopefully Gsam can easily point to the issue.

The stock battery screen in settings might help....but it doesn't say much more than basic info. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] tango41:
I have Gsam and better battery stats. I'll let it charge up and grab some screens tomorrow. I can telk you The biggest is android os according to Gsam.

Sent from my vzw moto X

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Here's one for now.

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[Moto X General] :
Yeah...that's really high....do you have everything on? Location...GPS...sync....etc? Tho.....Gsam will say in more detail if your phone has been kept away and by what.

Tho....if you barely touched your phone...OS will be higher....then it lowers as other things start sucking up juice.

We'll see after some time off the charger what things say.

Better battery stats is fine...tho admittedly I'm far more familiar with Gsam. But screen shot what ever works for you.

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] tango41:
Location, GPS are off. Only thing set to syn is gmail. I have gone back an uninstalled the apps I thought may have started this issue. I use to be able to go to work at 7am, use my phone sparingly and still have 90% left on phone at 3pm. Now its down to about 50% at 3pm.

Sent from my vzw moto X

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If I tap on the android os I get this below. There is more after this.

Sent from my vzw moto X

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This is from my daughters new X on 4.4.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] :
Can you show me the main Gsam screen, held awake time screen and kernel wakelock screens? If your rooted for some of that tho. ;)

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[Moto X General] tango41:
This? Not rooted. Its on charger now also.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] ram130:
Disable remotely locate option in Google Settings app then Android Device Manager. Reboot.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
Give it some time to go through a few cycles, as we go up in os Google puts their claws deeper in android, I also believe that the kernel wake locks are increasing due to moto fine tuning active display, touch less control etc. Theres a trade off, faster system or slower system with lower battery consumption, I'm running the gummy ROM , its 4..4.2 and android os is still high up the list but no where the consumption you're getting

Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet :) :)
[Moto X General] tango41:
Location was off, only thing under android device was to unchecked something for lost phone.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] :
Yeah...what they said. LOL. Something is holding you awake quite a bit too. An hour and a half in 11 hours is a lot. Unless you played music? I usually get less than an hour awake time in over 24 hours. Also...your screen could be very bright? Games played? Surfing the net with a weak signal?

Otherwise nothing stands out that's too bad. Try turning off what you can and see how it goes. The more Google and Motorola stuff you have running....the higher android o/s gets.

See how the next couple days goes anyway.

I usually turn almost everything off...and use lux to force my screen to stay very dim....BUT....this screen is from right now...with auto brightness on and location services on (wifi/data only...not GPS) and I'm noticing only a slight reduction in battery times. Screen time too. I'm noticing since upgrading to 4.4.2 that auto brightness doesn't crank the screen up to full as much as 4.2.2 did.

If you see my average times at bottom of first screen....I'm not too far off with location and auto brightness on....I never would have thought. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

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Crap..

Only 16 minutes of held awake time in 20 hours. I'm liking 4.4.2. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

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And I know Gsam pretty well.....its pretty much saying I could hit over 6 hours screen time. I think they definitely improved auto brightness on 4.4.2.

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[Moto X General] tango41:
This is what stumps me, my work has put into place a very strict cell phone policy Jan 1. I am suppose to only use my phone on breaks. Since the new policy I use it less than before. Breaks are 20 min (I have 2 breaks). During break its a quick glance at FB, tweetcaster, theChive and tapatalk. Music stream via iheart radio is less than an hr. When its not in use it sits in my lunch box. My issue started after Jan 1. I have had thus X since October. Maybe a reset is needed but I'll give it a few days and post some more screens.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] Gus194:
This is what I'm getting, I'm happy overall. Coming from an OG Droid RAZR this is like 3x better than the RAZR.
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
4.4.2 + ART - Services
[Moto X General] mbaran:
What did you do to disable "keep awake" for these two?
[Moto X General] zerogun:
I disabled it because Moto Assist kept waking up my phone for no reason. I have it Moto Assist unchecked, yet it still shows up in my wake locks. I'm pretty sure Moto Assist made locationservices keep a wakelock too. Since yesterady, I've used Titanium Backup and completely removed Moto Assist and it has not come up again.

I noticed that even if you disable Moto Assist and Touchless Controls it will come back as a "running service" on reboot. the only way to get rid of it is to freeze or remove it with TB.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Disable the top option..the remotely locate device one... Looks like this
[Moto X General] rmead01:
Makes sense. I actually just uninstalled it completely since I can reinstall through the play store if I ever need to.

I turned off keep awake for some games like angry birds and what not that my son plays. The google stuff I wouldn't recommend either.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Ok. Good luck man.
[Moto X General] tango41:
I didn't even have the option to uncheck the top option. The only option was the bottom one. I unchecked that one.

Sent from my vzw moto X

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What vzw/moto apps can I disable?

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Enable back location. Then uncheck it. Then reboot. Then disable location if you want.
[Moto X General] tango41:
[MENTION=4036181]kj2112[/MENTION] and ram130 thanks for your help. Apparently unchecking the option "allow remote lock & factory reset" has got me back close to normal. The screen shot is before doing the other part you suggested. Maybe it will get better now that both are not checked. The 3hr + awake time was due to slacker. Not sure why since I only used it for about 45min when I went to work at 5am. I noticed it at 9am this morning and force closed the app. At 9am it was 3:43. Since I fc the app it only increased 10 min.

Sent from my vzw moto X
[Moto X General] zerogun:
You should probably greenify all use apps. Can't tell you how many time I find a app is not closed and it eats up the battery. You phone as awake for a 4 hours! If you screen time is only about an hour then awake time should be pretty close to that. Unless of course you were listening to music.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
I can't ask for anything more as far as battery life is concerned. Been on LTE the whole time (no wifi) with all accounts set to push. The combination of Greenify, BBS, and Disable Service is a must for good battery life.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
What is "Disable Service"?
[Moto X General] tango41:
Its a app just like grenify, BBS (better battery stats). Look here---> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2455525

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Happy it worked. Sucks we have to disable it though.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Disable service is an app that I've used to disable specific services in applications. The red numbers indicate the number of services disabled. I used Better Battery Stats, research on xda, and trial and error to determine what to disable.
[Moto X General] Raphael Alo:
sorry, I just can't find this menu... can u help me? thanks
[Moto X General] tango41:
In your app drawer find the Google settings app (see pic). Open it and select Android Device Manager at the bottom.

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[Moto X General] zerogun:
Those of you that have an unlocked bootloader, have you tried the Kernel from rob43?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2579884

I'm on it now, take a look at the screenshot. That's 2 hours and 7 minutes up time, almost 10 minutes of screen time, and stillat 100%

The only drawback is that there seems to be a slight lag at wakeup. Active Notifications still work properly, but when you unlock the phone there is an almost half second pause before home screen comes up.
[Moto X General] :
Interesting. Might have to try it sometime. But I do wonder what else you've done? Freezing....what services are on..etc. :)

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[Moto X General] zerogun:
Well, here are my settings, if anyone wants to replicate it.

- RSDLite back to 4.4 stock, then rooted.

- Titanium Backup: Uninstalled Touchless Control. Only way to make it stop showing up as a service... Disable Service might work, but I've never used it.

- Greenify: greenified all user apps, and the only system app I've greenified is Google Maps. Don't greenify phone, MMS apps, or email unless you don't like to get notifications!

- Apps Ops: remove "keep awake" for the follwoing apps: Location Services (two of them!), Maps, Every user app - especially Facebook and Instagram,

- I then installed the Kernel from rob42 and used trickster moved voltages down 50 across the board

Note that I'm still experiencing high wifi drain, so I set "Keep Wifi on during sleep" to "never"

I hope this helps other folks out there. This phone has now become the perfect phone for me. I just can't kill this thing! And strangely, this phone plays NOVA 3 better then my N7. I suspect it might have something to do with 4.4 vs 4.4.2. Hopefully 4.4.2 doesn't kill my battery life when it comes out in a couple of weeks.
[Moto X General] :
I've done the majority of what you have....but I'm on Rogers 4.4.2 now. If the kernel is good for 4.4.2 and my model (I'll check the thread) I may give it a try.

I'll post a screen later...but I've recently said screw it....I end up charging at night with 40 percent left or so anyway....so I've turned on location services, even GPS.....disabled lux and am on regular old auto brightness...and have been actually trying to use touchless control as often as I can....and my held awake time has increased, but really my battery life (screen time too) has only suffered slightly ....compared to all that stuff off and brightness held low by lux.

Can't kill my battery life no matter what I do. Lol

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

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Oh...and wifi always on, for location services...even away from my router.

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[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
Did you ever find out if restore fixed the idle drain?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
The first night I still had about 10% lost over night. I haven't checked since but my daily battery life has been nothing short of stellar. I will leave it unplugged Friday night to see what's up. Can't do it during the week because I need a full charge for my work day.
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
No worries, I don't really want to have to restore it haha.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
I tried factory reset on both an X and a Droid Mini and it did nothing to improve idle drain on either device. YMMV.

Sent from my HTC One mini
[Moto X General] ram130:
Disable location reporting and always on wifi feature in settings.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Forgive my stupidity, but where are those settings found?
[Moto X General] phositadc:
I always disable location reporting.

WiFi uses less battery than LTE so the second suggestion would be counterproductive unless there is something weird about the WiFi radios in these phones.

Sent from my HTC One mini
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
some people have had weird wifi issues that conflict with their routers somehow that is actually pulling more from the battery when it is oset to stay on when the phone is asleep.
[Moto X General] ram130:
1. Settings, Wifi, then press the 3 dots, then Advanced and disable Scanning always available.

2. Go into Google Settings in the App drawer, Location and disable Location Reporting.

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Well..I guess you should wait for the 4.3 update. That will improve things. Otherwise I'd look at what else is draining it, use Better Battery Stats app to trace drainage or System Panel to monitor.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Ahhh, thanks! I already did have those settings off.
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
I've been blown away by the battery life. Sunday I pushed it to the limits and got 6 hours of screen time 18hrs off charger before I went to bed with 12% battery left.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Do you have any higher-than-should-be idle drain?
[Moto X General] gunnyman:
I don't seem to.

Do you happen to run Weather Bug Pro? That's one of the rogue apps I've seen listed as a culprit.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Nope. I think Keep might have been the culprit in my case but I won't be able to fully test till this weekend. I kept sync off all day today and I don't think I had any major idle drain at all. It stayed at 100% for 2 hours and I had 10 min of screen time before it dropped to 99%. Currently sitting at 13 hours unplugged, with an hour and a half of phone calls, just over 2 hours screen time and I'm at 54%. My kernel usage is only at 13.5%. That's pretty damn good in my book.
[Moto X General] FerraraZ:
Don't know how you guys are doing it but this is my battery. Honestly battery is huge to me and this is not what I expected, thinking of returning the device.

Full battery dead in 13th 50m with 2h on screen time.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Also try and disable Google Currents auto sync if you guys use it.

Sounds defective. Get a replacement.
[Moto X General] Rask40:
I've had similar issues, but I have *horrible* AT&T signal in my house. Like, 1 bar if I'm lucky horrible. So my battery gets nommed before I even leave for work, even if I tell the phone to stay on Wifi in the house. I'm still harassing AT&T to just send me a Microcell, but until that point, I've resigned myself to having less than average battery performance on my phones.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Have you considered switching providers? Good coverage at my house and office is an absolute requirement for me.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Moto X General] rmead01:
battery seems great to me. I can say there is a bit higher idle drain than other phones but what it lacks in idle drain it certainly makes up for in usage drain. Last night I left off charger and lost 0.7% an hour according to bbs. That's really not bad at all IMO.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Mines been very meh still.
[Moto X General] zerogun:
Yeah, I hear you! I can't kill the Moto X during a day's worth of use either. Even with playing Nova 3 for an hour, I can only get to about 3 hours screen time. By the end of the day, I still have 40-50% left on the phone.

All of this is really just an exercise in academia - trying to see how far the phone can go. And to get bragging rights over the other phones. And to prove all those naysayers with Notes and S4s that other phones can get good battery life too ;)
[Moto X General] kenosis:
How do you change voltage down to 50? I have Trickster + Donation key. I am not sure where to change. THanks
[Moto X General] ram130:
So after a full drain. I can safely say 4.4.2 returned my battery to high endurance. With everything on. I got 12hrs today with 3hr 45mins screen on all on LTE. I did a hour worth of internet radio streaming with Bluetooth, some calls, Facebook, texting, news, in and out of signal for 30mins. Android OS around 11% with 45mins CPU!

I actually did something to lower my Android OS, relates to Android Device Manager. But frankly what ever I did, I can leave it enabled again without any fears of it contributing to Android OS. Still testing and helping moto with it.
[Moto X General] yghrv:
How to do this ? remove "keep awake" for the follwoing apps: Location Services (two of them!), Maps

Can not find the apps of location services and the option in maps app.
[Moto X General] 1454:
Is it reasonable for someone with a X to expect 3.5-4 hours of screen on in 20 hours with the always on stuff being used?
[Moto X General] zerogun:
You have to be running a custom kernel. I am running the one for our rob42. Only then can you lower the voltage.

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To get AppsOps, you have to install xposed, and then install the apps ops module.
[Moto X General] kenosis:
May I know where to get rob42 kernel
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
yes. i get 20 hours with SOT 2hours and still have 30%-50% left
[Moto X General] 1454:
Thanks Jay.