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[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
So hello, :(

I am at vacation, Had my xperia Z, was trying to test the water resistance of the phone, so i decided, ( i never did something with water and my phone before, because i was worried something would happen) to make a video when jumping into the swimming pool,

so i did.

after that, ( about 3 hours later) my screen starts to flicker. after that, the brightness goes down.

still flickering.

I decided to do a CPU stability test, just to check.

CPU came at 50.3 degrees (!!!) ( WTF!), then i turned it off, because i thought this was a little too hot.

After that, i was sleeping, next day it was still the same, still flickering and low brightness, but everything was working. I turned it off again,

Yesterday i turned it on, and saw nothing on-screen anymore, although i do know that the phone still works, because of this:

If i hold volume up + power button for 10 seconds, it still vibrates,

if i hold volume down and power button, it makes a screenshot ( i hear that sound)

and when i press on the screen, i hear that touch sounds.

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Can someone help me?

Do i have to repair it in a repair center? How much will it cost me? or is this in warranty ( i think no)

Also additional info:

Phone = Rooted

I had an custom ROM ( Honami )

I had all covers closed

I did NOT go one meter deep, i jumped in the pool and held my arm high, so it was almost not under water

it was NOT for 30 seconds/30minutes, just jump and done

Thanx!
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingvortex:
The act of jumping in the water probably caused water to be forced into your phone.

It's highly likely corrosion and/or shorting of components has occurred as you continued to use the phone after water got in.

You can try leaving the device turned off in a bag of rice for a week or so, to see if that removes the moisture.

IMO, though, permanent damage has occurred and you will need to take it for repair.

Your warranty is probably void.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ILoveXperia:
Might be that u did not close the port properly, is the indicator turns colour? If thats not the Case then try reflash stock Rom, and if that does not solve the problem, try checking for possibility of water in ur device.. It might come through the back panel.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
What indicator? The LED indicator? That gives several colours, when i turn it on it is pink, and when it is on, it is either green flashing sometimes, or blue flashing sometimes

and how to check for water in my device? ( besides letting it in a sack of rice for a week, because then i already know that wont work)

And if i let it repair, what will it cost? Since everything is working, except the screen

And i dont know how this works, but i saw some news sites that posted 2 days ago that the Xperia Z ultra has exact the same problem as i describe now, could it be thatsome xperia Z models also face the exact same problem?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fakhreza:
He means the "water indicator". If you open the headphone or usb port flap, you'll see square white stuff in the corner. That's the indicator. If it is no longer white (it becomes red when water breach occurred), you have to take your phone into repair, and your warranty is already lost so you will be charged for the repair fee.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
Have to say, my screen is not completely blank, i could see on the lock screen the time, it was very dark however, but i still see something

also: cannot look now if it is pink, i think its pink, because i already saw that,

and if you mean warranty is already void because of root, i can relock my bootloader and flash to stock fairly easy ( have done it already couple of times, so, can do.)

and still, the big question, what do you expect me to payfor the repair?

and shall i bring it to sony? or to T-Mobile? or to another random third party repair shop in my city? ( last option is most affordable i think, but not the most secure, so what do you guys advise?)
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sirence:
If the indicator is red, your warranty is void.

Gesendet von meinem Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fakhreza:
If the screen is very dark and you still can see whatever it displays, probably the LED IC (IC that controls the LED illumination) is broken, because the LCD is still working, but without any illumination. To bring it to sony is the best I guess.

Well, your warranty is void because the indicator is red (or pink-ish, not white anymore) because of water breach. Not because you unlocked your bootloader.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
Still can see whatever it displays, this, i can't.

I could only see the Time in white, very dark, but this way i know it is not completely broken, does this mean the same?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
seems like sony does not repair phones with water inside at all..., not even outside the warranty

What a service..
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingvortex:
That would be because repairing the average water damaged phone would cost more than replacing it when you factor in that probably every component has suffered damage, labour costs etc.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tlcoman:
So instead of helping SOME people, they choose to help no one, because it COULD be that everything is damaged?

Not everyone has Water damage everywhere
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingvortex:
Yes, that's correct. Basic common sense would suggest it's cheaper to supply a new unit at cost price than to mess around paying someone to diagnose the fault and replace the whole internals of the phone in most cases of water damage. That's if the phone is even still under warranty, which probably isn't the case in 99% of water damage cases, which are normally caused by user error or negligence.

As for saying that not everyone would need most of the components replacing; you have no idea what is damaged inside your phone. It could be the case that the entire motherboard needs replacing.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ladyash718:
Hi... Im having the same exact issue, have u figured out how to fix this????
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingvortex:
Water damage? Send the phone to be repaired.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilifida:
-Dude, you JUMPED into the water. The extra pressure caused by the jump plus the extra depth you dive in (larger than the one of one meter-written in phone's specs) caused extra pressure, therefore water leaked into your phone. Haven't you read the specs? Up to one meter depth, why did you think they informed you with that?

- check under your flaps (headphones, charger, etc), there is a tiny white strap. If that spot is still white, it means the water got into your phone not through the flaps, so you can claim a faulty device by proving that your flaps were closed the time water got in (this also means not to tell them that you actually jumped into the water with your phone). If your stripes are red, it means that water got into.the phone through your.flaps, therefore you can kiss goodbye your warranty. Next time you get a waterpfroof device read carefully its specifications.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neoxx3m:
Cheapest way to fix phone in that condition is to buy another one. Original front housing for xperia z is too expencive (touchscreen and lcd r glued together), and probably ur motherboard is damaged as well. As a official Sony servicer I recommend u to buy new phone. And main reason why Sony doestn't service phones damaged with liquid is the one that kingvortex said.

And jumping into the water isn't such a good idea at all man. :\
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Navratilec:
Dim display trying to light up

Hello,

I've got the same problem. I was jumping with my Xperia Z into the pool and doing random idiotic ideas. Now is the phone functioning properly without any problems. But still there is one problem. My display is extremely dark. I can see on it only in the night. But when I'am playing with the phone more than 5 minutes the display is trying to light up. I set the brightness on maximum. Only 2 times it was on maximum for aproximetly 4 seconds but the phone is still trying to light up to the maximum. What can i do now? Thanks
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] St.Jimmy90:
Haven't you read the previous posts? Check if the indicators are red, if they are there's nothing you can do. If they aren't you could give it to sony to repair, but don't tell them what you did....
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
So apparently the Verizon variant of the HTC One has no stock FM radio, unlike all the other carrier variants (excepting Google Play edition).

Somebody sent me a debug log from my FM app (Spirit) and here's what I found:

The Broadcom OEM Proprietary FM API is there, and seems to "work", but RSSI is always 0 or 111 and only static can be heard.

The firmware file for the Broadcom FM/combo chip is the same variant on the latest Google Play edition of HTC One. IE, FM is disabled on it.

Spirit can work around that with root, assuming the FM antenna pins are not (IMO maliciously) grounded to disable them.

I'm very interested to see if a rooted Verizon One can be FM'd. Just run my app, latest free version here: http://d-h.st/vCj

EDIT: Set Menu-> Settings-> Debug-> FM API to "Low Level" and try again.

Working or not, if you have a ROOTED Verizon One, please send a debug log. Use Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs and press Send after 20 seconds.

I already have an unrooted log, and don't need any more.

Thanks !
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] fredric53:
It seems to work I didn't have a headphon set too test but I got lots of static
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] simo24:
I could only hear static, couldn't tune into any of the local stations.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] IceDragon59:
If you bought a Verizon One, you should have received a pair of headphones with the phone. Check the box.

I have the same problem. There's only static.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] oops_iv:
I got static with headphones plugged in (not OEM, some Bose ones I have around.) I just emailed the logs
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
3 of you sent me rooted logs, Thanks !

I was mistaken that the Broadcom OEM Proprietary FM API doesn't work. It DOES seem to work with no error, but RSSI signal strength always shows as 0 or 111 and you all report only static for audio.

The static is an encouraging sign.

I think this is due to the firmware file for the Broadcom FM/combo chip having FM disabled.

Spirit has a work around for that with root.

Set Menu-> Settings-> Debug-> FM API to "Low Level" and restart Spirit. Bluetooth is best turned off.

I would test once immediately after a full cold reboot of the phone with Bluetooth never having been on. Then I'd test again after turning Bluetooth on.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] IceDragon59:
Nothing but static after changin API to "Low Level". I hadn't ever turned on Bluetooth, but did a full reboot anyway. Still nothing but static. I turned on Bluetooth, and it stopped the static. I restarted the app, it took a minute to pop up, but says

Error: No FM Accessible
SU: 2 Fm:BC2 Su:1 Bt:0 Ht:0 Mo:BCU

Now I can't turn on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth anymore. I can't send you the logs again. :(

EDIT:

I force closed the app and uninstalled the app and everything works fine again. I don't know why your app is causing conflicts like it is.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] GrayBoltWolf:
If you guys could get this working that would be amazing.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] justjayhere:
Might look here for help etc....

[APP] Spirit FM

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=13379669
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] karn101:
Haha. Guess you missed the OP?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
In the low level mode, Spirit takes over control of the Bluetooth chip "UART" by which both BT and FM are controlled.

Any related interference problems should, at worst, require a cold reboot.

I'll check my email for debug logs before I come to any conclusions.

EDIT: Nobody sent a new debug log yet, with FM API set to Low Level. Someone please do... :)
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
I'm interesting in knowing this myself.. I'm looking to buy the HTC One, but FM needs to work first. I agree with Mike that static is better than nothing. Devices that don't support FM at all get nothing! No static, RSSI, Nada! I've subscribed to this thread for instant notification. So here is PRAYING for future working FM radio.

That is if Verizon didn't disable it.. remember this phone was WAAAAYY delayed from the other carriers launch.... Maybe this is why. So they could disable FM Radio since all the GSM and Sprint CDMA versions support FM and even have NATIVE apps. The fact that the Verizon ones doesn't says something there. Hell even the Sprint version was paired with a FM app maker (sadly not our good friend Mike Reid).

But let's hope Verizon didn't screw this up too much. Maybe its just a software block as the Motorola Bionic was.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
I'm still waiting for a debug log from someone with Root AND with Menu-> Settings-> Debug-> FM API set to "Low Level".

Latest Aug 12 Free version of Spirit is here: http://d-h.st/vCj

Static is an interesting and unique failure mode. The uniqueness has me concerned about this sabotage scenario:

Sprint (CDMA right ?) and Verizon HTC One are almost identical. Sprint variant supports FM, and their NextRadio/Emmis deal forced Sprint into supporting FM.

So, the Sprint CDMA HTC One BCM4335 FM antenna pin is routed through the usual few cheap caps/coils etc to the headset jack, just like the other variants.

But Verizon, instead of grounding the antenna pin as is usual to disable FM, just left out the caps/coils etc. for their production runs. Maybe that was easier or faster, and the Verizon One is very late already.

So, the static may just be a sign of an unconnected, but not grounded antenna pin. The pin and PCB trace are likely under an RF shield. Maybe a very strong signal, like very close to a powerful transmission tower, would come through.

This is just a theory though, and I hope I'm wrong.

New debug logs please... :)
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
That FM signal under the RF shield might work. If someone with a FM modulator could get it close to the phone see if the signal will pass through. Needs to be high power.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
I was thinking more like standing close-ish (but not TOO close) to a 100 KW transmitter or whatever the more powerful use.

A lot of FM modulators (like my FM Tx phones) have signals so weak the signal only works well within a few inches under the best circumstances. And an RF shield doing it's job is the WORST circumstances.

Modulator could work maybe with a direct connection, or at least a wire very close to the FM chip and poking through a gap in the shield.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] karn101:
Going to do this now for you.

EDIT: Sent
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
Thanks, but I couldn't see what I was looking for.

Could you try again after a reboot ?

I can see you set "Low Level" but it looks like the code didn't react properly. Just tested on my HTC One and it works as expected. So, I dunno, but at least that leaves us some hope still.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] karn101:
I did it again. You should have another email.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
Thanks !

I'm not seeing as much of the debug log as I'd like, but I don't think my conclusion is any different.

Spirit seems to "work" in low level mode, but with pretty much the same symptoms as on other phones that have FM disabled by grounding the antenna pin (or whatever):

The first 3 RSSI signal strength measurements are 0, 0, and -17.

So I think Verizon retains the "crown" as the carrier most likely to completely disable in hardware all hope of OTA FM on HTC devices. At worst, other carriers just don't install the FM app, or disable in software such that a rooted device can do FM.

I think we'll be able to more confidently declare FM as hardware disabled when custom ROMs are built using stock ROMs from other variants as the base. If one of these ROMs is able to enable FM, then it's not a hardware issue and I'll be happy to explore further.

I continue to be intrigued though by the symptom of static when using the stock Broadcom proprietary FM API. I'd be interested to see if I can replicate this on my HTC One or other recent Broadcom based devices/ROMs.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
The reason for the delay was so Verizon could have the HW changed to meet their specs. That seems to include grounding the FM Antenna.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
Correct.

I'd still like to see more of the debug log, so anyone with root and FM API set to Low Level is welcome to send me a new log, but I think it will not provide new, useful info, just confirmation (though it's always possible I'm wrong.)

I'd like to see the result when someone runs a Sprint or other carrier derived ROM on the Verizon One. This will be further confirmation, though it's always possible there's a bit in super-secure storage that says "No FM".

From time to time I come upon new information that will merit a retest, so you never know.

Can you run a Sprint HTC One on Verizon ?

As we've seen before, and it seems to continue to worsen, FM options on phones bought from Verizon are few and far between.

And Google/Motorola/Verizon could do MORE to frustrate/disable FM in system software updates, as they have already done with JB updates for the Razr I and Bionic.

You've got your (limited and confusing) choices.

Even the people who choose Verizon, for coverage or grandfathered unlimited data or whatever, seem in the majority to despise Verizon.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
I'm with Verizon because I do have unlimited data. Verizon also has the best coverage in my area. Not to mention I'm locked into 3 contracts (3 lines). Do you forsee any progress by Early October? I have an upgrade then and was REALLY looking forward to DIGITAL Audio and Spirit FM working. But as usual Verizon MUST disable FM radio.

I guess if nothing happens I'll end up with the Droid Maxx (FM locked out forever). I'll try and grab a Droid 3 off eBay to use for Spirit FM atleast!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] karn101:
Dude, you just spoke to me in a foreign language. I salute your knowledge.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
:)

Simple version: No FM.

Probably.

Unless someone else figures it out, or I have an epiphany...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
Nope.

Unless a ROM transplant works.

Stop trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. :)

(Doc, it hurts when I do this. Doc: Don't do that.)
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Lol!

Guess there is no reason why I should pick the HTC One over the Droid Maxx. Unless I like the HTC One... Well maybe a ROM will shed more light. But I fear its FM obvilion just like most other Verizon phones.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
I've decided I am going to get the HTC One. But I sure hope a future ROM unlocks the FM capabilities of the One. I will hold out hope. Why? Because the other variants, even the Sprint version has it. I doubt HTC would design a totally different version just for Verizon. When both Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA and LTE. Albeit not in the same spectrum. Seeing that all the HTC Ones but Verizon have FM. I say its only a matter of time!

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
I was holding out on the max, but it seems to be more plastic than kevlar. Trying to get away from plastic with the note 2.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] shogan454:
Verizon neutering their handsets is getting really tiresome....
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
And yet people stick with them, so why should Verizon change ?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Most people stay with them because of coverage and legacy (unlimited) data plans. Sprint and T Mobile are the most open to FM and others.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] nrfitchett4:
amazing that the bottom 2 carriers are more open to features... :p
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Yep simply because Verizon and AT&T have the money and power to lord it over their subscribers with their network coverage. If they want it they will buy it.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] scarshapedstar:
Yep. If it weren't for the upgrade shuffle I'd have gone to T-Mo.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] shogan454:
I know. I'm guilty of staying with Verizon even though I disagree with some of their policies. If there were viable alternatives that offered close to the coverage, I'd gladly jump ship!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
And the answer to the rhetorical question: "why should Verizon change ?"

is: They don't need to...

So:

Want coverage: Verizon.

Want Nexus, latest phones, FM, unlockable bootloaders, etc, etc...: Go elsewhere.

Want everything: Move outside the US.

Just north of the border here in Canada, I use any unlocked GSM phone I want on an MVNO that goes through Bell, with pretty much the best coverage up here.

And, you may cry, so look away, but I lucked into grandfathered unlimited GSM (not LTE, don't need) data for 25 cents a day, LOL. I hardly use the phone, so it costs me about $10 a month, double LOL.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] scarshapedstar:
Murica!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Same here. I'm with Verizon because of coverage, cost and unlimited data. If it weren't for that Is jump ship to AT&T or T-Mobile yesterday.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
The bastion of freedom and unfettered capitalism. :)

"Rest of the world" is not far behind especially what with the fall of the communist USSR and the capitalism-ization of China...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Looks like Verizon is getting backlash on their OWN forum about the HTC One not having FM Radio.

https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/992841?tstart=0

---------- Post added at 12:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 PM ----------

A user posted this about FM and the HTC One.

"I got this limited info from HTC

"We can confirm the radio has been removed as a function from the phone but can not confirm if it was removed from the hardware or the stock applications."

Of course the rep also went on to tell me I can stream many fm stations.

Ugh. They don't get it either."
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
Not much different than the 100 other similar threads. Nothing new...
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] xmguy:
Wonder if that means the FM potential is still there, or DOA? Seeing that HTC didn't admit or deny PHYSICALLY removing or blocking the FM Antenna pins.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] mikereidis:
IMO, you will never, ever, ever get technical information that you can be confident is accurate from most sales reps, tech support, and other people you meet at the store or call on the phone.

They may guess, or they may use info that may be lies or "creative sort of truth telling". And this info may be "filtered" and corrupted after being passed between different companies, departments, and people, each of whom may modify the message slightly to dumb it down, or "correct" it, or change it to suit various needs, such as marketing etc.

Heck, even in the rare cases where I see a schematic showing the antenna pins grounded, I can't guarantee the schematics are accurate. Since many phones have FM as an option, where they buyer/carrier etc. can say "No FM please" or "Yes FM" this is one of the places where a schematic could be wrong, because it's for a slight variant.

Some schematics, like I saw for Optimus G, show a dotted set of lines around the FM antenna stuff. I think they planned for FM initially, Google said "disable FM" and they probably used the same production runs as for the Nexus 4. Later Optimus G variants had FM restore.

When was the last time a customer service rep or similar said: The FM antenna pin(s) ARE (or are not) connected ? That's the meat of the matter for me, for rooted phones at least.