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[Moto X General] kdog350:
I unlinked my google account from motorola device ID and my battery seems to be a lot better
[Moto X General] tu3218:
I want to try the Moto version of the phone location but every time I try to log in online, it tells me no devices have been associated with your account. When in fact, under motorola device ID, my gmail is linked. Any ideas?
[Moto X General] m4tt94:
Just fantastic.

No location, no device manager or anything.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
I have no such path on 442. Explain please?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Look where your apps are then follow through.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
There is settings/app/ but nothing Google settings!

There is settings/accounts Google but no settings either.

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I am on Vzw 442 unrooted
[Moto X General] m4tt94:
You should open the "Google Settings" app in the app drawer. That one with a gray square icon.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Yep, giving the g2 a chance, which as much as I like the moto x is sad because the g2 is proving to be a beast.
[Moto X General] matt99017d:
Facebook has killed mine.

It was OK in the beginning. Here is a screen shot....time to greenify!

Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Perhaps inaccurate reporting is killing my battery. Check out all the spikes on the graph. (SIM card is in my G2 right now)
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
My battery life is phenomenal, but it would be way better if I could kill the qcom_rx_wakelock that's keeping my phone awake half the time it's on...
[Moto X General] fat_boyy21:
To all of the people getting 5+ hours of battery life, how do you have your moto x set up. Are you shutting anything like gps off, do you have a picture background/live background, any widgets, and how often and how long are you charging the it?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I usually leave GPS on and I'm on wifi about half the time. I charge only at night and usually have over 50% left after about 16 hours. Only widgets I use are DashClock, calendar, email, and poweramp. Picture wallpaper. If I used it until it died I'd probably hit about 6 hours of screen time.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
Picture wallpaper. Gps/WiFi always on. Sync on. Google now on. Picture/play music/Pandora/calendar widgets.

Heavily debloated freezing using tibu and greenify.
[Moto X General] fat_boyy21:
that's impressive. Id been charging mine during the day, but Im going to charge it overnight. It even says to do that in the moto care app

I just installed both tibu and greenify, and got rid of of the att bloatware, greenify looks really useful, I wish I knew about it when I had my galaxy nexus
[Moto X General] MVPete1:
While I don't have a fix for it, I did some research and the wakelock is tied to WiFi. In particular, I only get it when I'm on my home WiFi. It seems fine when I'm on my work WiFi.

My router is a D-Link DIR-825.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
My drain decreased dramatically after I killed the wakelock. Wow.
[Moto X General] bso44:
How did you kill it?
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
I just went into running apps and killed the qualcomm service.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Any idea what that service does?
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
NOPE, haha. I haven't run into any problems though.
[Moto X General] RogerPodacter:
Those tiny spikes I don't think are a problem. But what is interesting is the stellar idle drain you had during thatperiod, with the red signal area. Its very flat for that many hours which is excellent.

I don't think its inaccurate. But you guys should all be logging current and voltagereadings with current widget. I did many tests with aATT store units to get an idea of current mA draw during different screen brightnesses and under load. Definitely lower than most other phones. Motorola really did some optimizingiIMO.
[Moto X General] Turb0wned:
So far I love the battery life. Its about time I get an Android phone that last me a full day without connecting to a charger at all.

What I have syncing

-Facebook

-Twitter

-Email+ some of the other google stuff like google keep and music

-Weather widget is set to update every 4 hours

I have the screen set a little lower than half way.

I used the phone like crazy today.

-21 Minutes Navigation

-A little over an hour streaming music from google music and xbox music

-Constantly checking my fantasy league

-Watched 3 youtube videos

-Alot of web browsing

I was only on wifi for 2 hours.

My battery right now is at 6%. Its been off the charger for 15 hours and 3 mins. Screen time is at 3 hours 55 mins.
[Moto X General] Yazzinit:
How did you do it? What was causing it?
[Moto X General] atomb:
Are you kidding, someone already answered that on THIS PAGE!
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Ya that's the time the phone had no Sim card. Notice before that how quickly it drained with good signal.
[Moto X General] Yazzinit:
Lol, I made a comment out the door. A simple "check above" would have sufficed. I hope you drop your phone and break it, keyboard warrior.
[Moto X General] danny39:
Nononono there's an app that's in your app drawer called "Google Settings"
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
App drawer/Google settings!!!!

Ok
[Moto X General] Eckyx:
Just tested to see how much screen on time I could get. Set phone to "never sleep", autobrightness, and continued about my normal usage patterns as I'd use it on weekends.

See more wakelock stats here.

Probably doesn't need to be said, but I'm on Republic Wireless and thus am still on 4.2.2 for a few more days. Their app causes a ton of wakelocks, but it doesn't hit battery life as badly if you're just running the battery down in one sitting. It's when you're trying to pull 3-4 days from a charge that it's frustrating.

I used it lightly like I normally would on weekends, mostly texting and occasionally refreshing threads on various forums while I play DOTA2, but I have no timeout on the screen. I sent some files via email, played with bluetooth for about 10 minutes, but it's mostly been sitting on my desk at around half brightness. I have a normal background, no empty black screen nonsense going on here, this is really what you can expect if you squash most of your wakelocks.

On a typical week day I tend to get closer to 7-9 hours screen-on time, mostly because I'm walking around campus, moving from hotspot to hotspot, and am very often in areas of poor signal (2 bars or less). My usage us 90% web browsing, 5% texting, 5% camera. I sometimes listen to audiobooks on the bus to and from class, and on days when I play a few hours of audio it can be as low as 5-6 hours screen-on before needing a charge.
[Moto X General] Arion02:
Android OS is always at the top of the battery usage list for me. I have location reporting turned off and my location setting mode is battery saving. I have been monitoring my battery usage for a couple weeks now and android OS is the culprit. On rare occasions, my phone will use hardly any battery while I'm not actively using it... Meaning the battery usage graphic will pretty much be a flat line as it will only use a couple of percentage points over the course of the day. Anybody have any suggestions for me? Thanks.
[Moto X General] :
Android os will always be higher with apps syncing and using location services. Seems its worse on the x than some other phones. The hard part is you need to find the apps that are doing the most damage to android os. Not always easy. You pretty much need to use a process of elimination to track them down.

Also, device only setting in location is best for battery.

To see what I'm saying....go a day with location off and see the difference. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] jp1044:
Were you on WiFi the entire time?
[Moto X General] Arion02:
Thanks for the info. I will try it with location off. I don't have many apps installed so I will try eliminating them 1 by 1 to see if I can see a difference. Thanks.

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I am connected to WiFi most of the time. I have WiFi at work and at home which is where I was for the majority of the time.
[Moto X General] jp1044:
That could be contributing to your Android OS problem. I've been testing this over the past few weeks that being connected to WiFi increases the amount of CPU time that Android OS accumulates. I didn't want to present my findings until I had tested on another network but my own but apparently I'm not the only one affected by this bug. I don't why this happens but it seems to be true.
[Moto X General] Arion02:
I found this thread that since seen to notice since issues with Wi-Fi. However, nothing seems conclusive.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/nexus/HV2TICIjX9U/75BEMJ5reEEJ
[Moto X General] jp1044:
That's an interesting thread...a setting that would significantly reduce the Android OS problem would be Settings > WiFi > Advanced and settings "keep WiFi on during sleep" to "only when plugged in" (shown in the screen shot below). That setting would turn off WiFi when the screen is off and would definitely reduce standby CPU drain caused by this. The only problem is that since WiFi is shut off when the phone is asleep, all of your background syncing will happen over 2g/3g/LTE which could be a problem if you have a small data cap.

I may try changing the WiFi scanning interval and see if that helps with the CPU usage. Will report my findings
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i posted this awhile ago in this thread. but check out this thread about how to fix your wifi battery drain problems.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15769&highlight=android
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
My first proper charge with GPS always on high accuracy, lowest brightness and WiFi always on.
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
How's that? Kind of heavy use.

Unlocked BL, Rooted, XPOSED tweaks. I've been thinking to move for CyanogenMod but XT1058 seems to be the only Moto X variant that doesn't have nightlies in the official site ROM download directory. :sly:
[Moto X General] jp1044:
All of the moto x variants have been combined under the moto_msm8960dt builds.
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
Cyanogen's website or here at XDA?
[Moto X General] jp1044:
Cyanogens wesbite: http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=moto_msm8960dt&type=nightly
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
Changelogs or bug lists?
[Moto X General] roguealcatraz:
I want to +1 on this finding. I experienced the same issues, i notice that wifi on MotoX is a big battery drainer (idk how is it on other phones).. I can say that because i get a noticeable result when set my wifi to Always on when plugging. Even on idle, the drain is fast, almost 4% per hour with screen off and data transfer is only a little amount.

But this is maybe an initial founding, but i'm sure it's connected with android OS high percentage.
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
Sorry for going a bit offtopic but, could somebody with CM11 do an AnTuTu benchmark and post it here? I still have my doubts moving to CM.
[Moto X General] sravanz:
flashed 4.2.2 rsd lite.. updated to 4.4.2 two days back.. Not many apps installed.. at 11pm its at 47% and morning 5am turned off. Wifi and gps on everything else off. Worst ever
[Moto X General] :
You have a huge drain happening. We can't help without useful screen shots...like from gsam from the play store. Get it and do a full cycle with it, no reboots. From 100 to very low percentage. I'm sure with that bad of drain, the issue should show up clearly.

Also, lots of apps access location services....if android os is a huge number...try with location services off for a day. Or syncing apps will add to android os as well.

Anyway, try with gsam running and do some screens...I'm sure it should be simple to find the drain. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
Apps using location doesn't correlate to Android OS usage. Rather it's the location service itself on the X freaking out and getting stuck that adds CPU time and awake time to both Android OS and Play Services.
[Moto X General] :
I agree....but sometimes those apps bring on the freak out. Lol

All I know is if location is running and you have say 10 apps that use location services, you're android os tends to soar through the roof.

That's why I've always just used the toggle. One swipe and one click and its on when I need it.

But that's just me. ?

It does keep android os well under 10 percent on my phone in a 24 hour charge.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
+2

I've noticed wifi causing a significant amount of drain on this phone whereas in the past I've always heard being on wifi is better for battery than on LTE/3g. I don't have any conclusive proof but from what I've noticed over time it seems to do just as well if not better when not on wifi..
[Moto X General] ram130:
Good point. Sucks that its not needed on my N7. Anyway moto is on it. I hope.
[Moto X General] :
Me too. My wife would like her X running location services....but I won't let her. Lol

The N5 doesn't seem to be near as bad with "everything on".....though I still keep it all off....just my preference. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] roguealcatraz:
Yes sir, i tried last night to turn off wifi and stay in 2G when sleeping and my drop is only 3% for 7 hours which is a good result i think. Other night when i was on wifi, it sucked almost 18% doing nothing (i'm sleeping).

Can anyone test it?

i try to change in wifi advanced setting : Keep wifi on during sleep : only when i plugged in and got no positive impact, still draining on wifi.
[Moto X General] ram130:
So far after a factory reset with my apps restored from Google. Location on, Device ID enabled. I'm now draining 0.4%/hr. CPU idle way below 1% while in stand by and Android OS is below Phone Idle...Things I haven't done:

Update Google+ and Maps. Open Maps. Enable touch less. Enable Google Now with location reporting.

Last factory reset two weeks ago. I did those next and CPU drain got more consistent and Android OS went back up. Lol. I'm afraid to pick the next one.

Right now I'm at 40mins screen, 19hrs off charger. Android OS at 20mins. 78% left.
[Moto X General] :
That's awesome!!! ;)

Curious to see what happens when you update apps and install others.

Again, never got the X any lower than 0.8 percent idle drain. Even in airplane mode. And I froze a lot of stuff. Only active and touch less on.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] ram130:
I got over 118 apps installed automatically from the play store.

Yes I'm curious too and with a lot of battery spikes to add. Lol. I believe 0.8%/hr might be the prime. I'm gonna update Google plus next along with restoring my apps data so they can all stop acting new lol. Especially the launcher and my 5,000 texts.
[Moto X General] chayan18885:
After reading post(s) frm people. And also scrolling through pages backward.

I notice that i am getting a pathetic backup.

The screen shots are of today as i post this comment.

For reference:

Music - 1 hr appx

Light game - 20 min

On 2g - 3.5 hrs appx and Wifi - rest of the time

Browsing - 30 to 45min on 2g. And on wifi 20 mins.

What is your/community' opinion.

Because i feel that it doesnt standup to as experienced by others.

Android 4.4.2 out of the box.

Current % - 30% (after a full charge)
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
go to the link that i posted a couple pages back. change your router settings. create a guest network. use that for your phone to log onto. and turn the guest work lan connection capabilities off. It should resolve your wifi drain problem.
[Moto X General] :
If you've got "everything on", I'd say you're getting about the average in that case.

The 6 hour screen time posts are usually with most things turned off. Greenified maybe, screens kept dim....and so on.

From what I've seen, 3 to 4 hours screen time is the norm with sync, location and other features enabled.

It all depends what's important to people....the longest battery life possible, or features running always. Me, I toggle features on when I need them....otherwise they are off. I don't need or want apps accessing my location whenever they please....as an example.

:)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] ANMTMS:
Actually, i'm very happy with this phone battery. After a very very heavy use, almost only heavy games. Spotify, sync, NFC and data always on (data even if i was using Wi-Fi that day.) and it lasted a very long (or at least i felt that) five hours.

While with my old Samsung Galaxy S Advance, it lasted two hours with just light-average use.

I still don't know how much would this phone last if i disable most of the power suckers, and just do very light, but continuous use (Internet).

Three months after i bought this phone, i saw that the Nexus 5 was exactly at the same price than this Moto X, with all those specifications, but, no regrets at all. I almost didn't have any lag with this phone since i bought it :D

I totally recommend this phone for those who are interested.
[Moto X General] roguealcatraz:
unfortunately i have no access to change my office's wifi, but from that link you posts, the key is to make a guest network? Is this option available in most router?

And do you have a success result from this?
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
yes it works but the key isn't a guest network. the key is disabling LAN connections. So computers on the guest network won't be able to talk to eachother but can still access the internet.

If you really want to fix your works wifi, just bring another access point to your office and create your own network there using their internet.
[Moto X General] a1exus:
I'm trying to erase cache partition and following is output of exactly what I did:

mbp:~ alexus$ adb reboot-bootloader
mbp:~ alexus$ fastboot devices
ERROR: could not get pipe properties
T062805CH8	fastboot
mbp:~ alexus$ fastboot erase cache
ERROR: could not get pipe properties
(bootloader) Variable not supported!
erasing 'cache'...
OKAY [ 1.107s]
finished. total time: 1.107s
mbp:~ alexus$

yet after reboot, phone boots normally like nothing happened :eek:

any ideas?
[Moto X General] Zerei:
4+ ost

I went from almost selling my moto x to loving it. Previously I had very high Android OS usage, always on par with screen time.

Now I can get 4h+ screen time (+50% brightness), with 1h+ voice, 1h video and 12h active time ( with high precision GPS on).

I went from a custom ROM to stock (Brazil retail). I found out that my moto x was on LTE, and here on Brazil we use 4g. I really don't know if that makes a difference, but nothing changed from the previous ROM to the current stock in terms of apps. I may even add that before I, had GPS always off, and now I enable location services and reporting on Google services.

I'm also using faux kernel with his app. But these stats are very similar to stock kernel, I can't report significant differences between them. Aside from"Battery Saver" and qualcomm battery guru, I'm not using any app for battery enhancements.

I don't have any complaints about my phone anymore.
[Moto X General] ram130:
So you went back to stock.....hmm. Funny I'm on stock too:

Maybe I should turn off LTE and stay on WiFi all day....I wonder.

- Ram
[Moto X General] a1exus:
I'm not really sure what happened but when I just got my motox my screen time was between 3 to 4 hours and now i'm getting between 1-2 and i can't figure out what's wrong. I'm using stock rom on verizon kitkat 4.4 w/ root w/ stock kernel, i also have bbs installed.
[Moto X General] :
BBS screen shots did help....tho personally I prefer gsam. Hard to help without something. We'd just be throwing guesses at you. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] a1exus:
I'm gonna publish few as I go along..
[Moto X General] Naiks20:
Has anyne compared the longevity to something like the xperia z2? It'd be interesting considering the way the devices handle battery life differently with the sony having a super large battery whereas the moto x favours a more conservative method of saving battery life.
[Moto X General] meron211:
For who this using LTE. You can turn it off and use a regular 3g. There us some LTE switch app on the market.
[Moto X General] chayan18885:
Review frm Moto X users please. I have time to get this device replaced.

So today i tested with 3g. Location on in semi mode.

At Max it was on 3g for appx 3-3.5 hrs. With again, Wifi for around 7.5 hrs.

Music for 1hr. Very little browsing.

Some whatsapp. Very little social netwrk.

No calls as such. Maybe 7 to 8mins.

Posting the stats. This phn is irritating me.

Using greenify on most of the app. Excepts fb, g+, email, and messengers(hike, fb msger, whatsapp, hangout) and few more

Note: location and sync is was always on. But google+ sync and backup is off.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
you need to show screen shots from bbs or gsam. since your cpu time isn't that high. i would think it has to be cell service in your area causing the drain. being connected to wifi should reduce that drain but perhaps the phone is not taking that into account correctly. maybe switching to 3g effects something.
[Moto X General] :
Well, with location on, Facebook, WhatsApp, hangouts, exchange server being used..... And what looks like a weak signal on WiFi and 3g.....I think there's nothing wrong at all with your phone. Its just your particular usage.

I say this a lot....but just to test... For just one day, turn off location and sync and stop all those social apps and exchange from syncing for sure...greenify them....then see what your battery life is on that one day.

Unless its weak WiFi and or data.....I bet its quite improved.

Also, get gsam for this test(also need gsam root companion installed after gsam)....and post your next screen shots from it. The stock usage screen says very little that's useful. Post from gsam, the main screen, phone screen, screen screen, app screen...and in app screen, click the drop down and do times waking device, time held awake and kernel wakelocks.

If its better like this....one by one enable things you want again, until your battery takes a dive. Then you've found your culprit.

Also, in Google settings app, go into android device manager and uncheck both.

This will eventually lead you to the answer of your mediocre battery life.

Honestly, with your setup....I'd put your average at about 16 hours, with 3 to 4 hours screen time as normal. The huge times you see here are usually people running very lean...with most features off. And they toggle location when needed, and off after.

And "device only" seems to be the most battery friendly location service setting, when you try location again after your troubleshooting.

If you or others don't try this stuff....you'll be disappointed when your replacement does the same thing. Trust me.

Good luck! :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] chayan18885:
Well i did install gsam. But as i was tinkering with it. I learned that root is required. Have been out of touch with android modification's and swapping roms and all the nitty-grity of Android. Had been using Atrix 2 for almst 2 years. Out of touch you see. :p

So i am at the moment pretty vanilla android. With the daily driver apps.

Okay so coming back to the topic.

I will charge the device and use gsam and post. (Is root necessary?) Cause root companion will nt wrk, as i am unrooted. Cannt till i am sure that i will keep this device in particular...

kj2112 i have both the device manager turned off. GPS was on just to chk hw the battery will keep up!

I forgot to mention. I use nfc tags each programd for 1st Sleep 2nd home and 3rd for office.

PFA the trigger screenshot for setting. Will hlp to better understanding of my settings.

Since at night the Tag #1 puts disables (wifi,mobile data and auto sync). And puts screen brightness to 0. There is a drain of 10%. Oh with alarm offcourse for 5 to 10 mins.

Also, wifi at office has good signal. At home in the screen shot. Might have been a bad timing. :sly:

But generally it is good. 3 to 4 bars.

And yes. I will charge it to 100 and then post my gsam screen tomorrow.

Cheers to both of you. :beer