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[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
Well I guess we have to agree to disagree. I find performance is a lot better given you let the device settle a few minutes after it's done. When I've not wiped cache and dalvik after flashing the rom and gapps, some of my apps perform poorly. Jorte, Google+, Aquamail, Taptu, some games. It's my current way of doing it on both my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7. The difference doing it on my N7 is more noticeable. Additionally the rom installation states "Flash ROM, GAPPS, wipe caches and reboot".
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
Feel free to keep using the snake oil but don't try to suggest that its required or does anything for you. If you would bother to read the updater script in the ROM zip you would see it formats cache for you. As for dalvik its pretty well documented how it works.

You keep doing whatever you want but just understand it isn't necessary for any reason whatsoever.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
Snake oil? Look, don't have a canary pal. If it works for me, I will think it works for others. Others have thanked me for my suggestion countless times noting definitely better stability and speed. I flash 2x Galaxy Nexus and 2x Nexus 7, it gives me a pretty good idea what works and what doesn't. If the ROM update script formats cache and dalvik then why does rom install suggest doing a wipe of these after ROM and Gapps.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
ROM install script doesn't actually format the caches because it isn't necessary.

Also, a word to the wise: don't argue with devs (especially a RD) because you're going to loose.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
I'm not arguing and I don't care if I lose. It's all part of learning I'm not here to win or lose.

Good to know that the install script doesn't format. Makes sense since you already do that when you factory reset. Still does not explain why when I wipe cache and dalvik despite the upgrade script doing it why my apps perform better? My recommendation does nothing to harm anyone so over reacting on the dev's side of things is his own problem.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
It's just placebo.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Caliyork:
Please don't flame me if this is a dumb question, but I seem to recall in the past not being able to use PIE with the bottom (back, home, and multitasking) buttons at the same time. Can this be done now, or do I still have to choose between the two?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
Last time I looked at the updater script, about 2 weeks ago it did format cache.

The thing I have learned about the placebo effect on XDA is that no matter how you explain the truth, it goes unheeded.

Some people just don't like logic or facts.

They will fight tooth and nail to "prove" their method actually has some sort of real affect on anything. Since this is all open source it doesn't take a genius to look at the code and figure out what things do. The genius comes from implementing new code and methods.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
Well not in my latest build. All that gets formatted is /system.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Flukester69:
I believe what you are saying however when I don't wipe both these areas my Google account won't sign in and apps like Jorte and Aquamail FC. This never happens after my method so its one I've stuck with and others I know experienced the same wackiness my methods work for them. In fact one of my friends I work with said he went back to my method as he went to 3.99 and had similar results to what I said. It's not something I made up in my mind. I've lost count how many times I've flashed installs or updates.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] KevinGee:
I'm loving this rom and all, only problem is that titanium backup doesn't want to install my apps. I try and restore something and it just hangs at 0% I've already wiped caches but still no use

Sent from my phone
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
A search on titanium backup and 4.3 would yield that you have to change the backup location in titanium backup preferences. From 0 to legacy

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] sharingan92:
will there be a JLS build from the latest update to the 2013 N7

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...anywhere-gets-updated-to-build-number-jls36c/
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
Helium is a million times better. I should specify that helium premium is better, I backup and restore my apps directly to my dropbox and it works perfect everytime, I don't have to waste space on my tablet or screw around trying to sync my backup to a cloud which is a waste of time imo.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] thereal_bigjake:
That's the way to do it if you have unlimited internet, unfortunately I don't out here in the boonies :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
Hopefully Google fixes that soon, they're supposed to be launching ballons with transmitters attached to provide free wifi in select areas, their plan is for nationwide coverage. I'll believe it when I see it, but one can hope right? ;)

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You could use this as an excuse to eat at a restaurant that has wifi, under the guise that you are really craving food from that restaurant lol :D
[Nexus 7 Original Development] smblaze:
Trouble with OTA latest update

Have not had a problem using Google, but the OTA says download has started but never actually downloads.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Proclaims that syncing to a cloud is a waste of time.

Praises Helium for syncing to Dropbox.

Hmm...:confused::p:D;)

Sent from my SPH-D710 running PACMan v23.0.0 + Operation KillJoy, JB 4.2.2. :cool:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] prestige777:
Its not confusing at all, there is no syncing your backup with helium, you either backup or restore your apps to and from the cloud directly, Titanium however has an option to sync your backup to a cloud, but you still have to backup your apps to your device first, then after all that wasted time, you can waste another couple of hours waiting for backup to finish uploading your synched backup to the cloud, if your lucky it'll actually work without some error or you can directly backup and restore directly to and from the cloud, no extra backup or syncing your backup required. You can set helium to sync (automatically backup with no interaction needed) if you choose, I don't though.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Firstly, there is no confusion on my part, that's supposed to be a smiley (at least it is on Tapatalk).

Secondly, that is one, REALLY, long sentence.

Thirdly, Couple of hours? What are you using, dial-up? My tablet just synced earlier today and with just having backed-up new user apps/versions and modified data, it only needed to upload 17.8MB. So, yeah, no "couple of hours" here. Either way, if we're backing the same things up over the same Internet connection, it's going to take equally long.

I've never had an issue restoring from a Titanium Backup from my dropbox.

Lastly, and most importantly, that was meant as a funny, not an insult. IT WAS A JOKE.

Sent from my SPH-D710 running PACMan v23.0.0 + Operation KillJoy, JB 4.2.2. :cool:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] koko98:
Need to reflash gapps after updating to 3.99?

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 Original Development] qu3becker:
Yes.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
The PA OTA app is currently broken due to api issues on the website. You can still download via the website.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] suku_patel_22:
Why don't you override the stock OTA process
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
Stock OTA should be disabled.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pan.droid:
fstrim, etc

I noticed that the clipboard problem is no more, so it got me thinking: Does 3.99 include the fstrim fix released in stock 4.3 update for Nexus 7 1st gen? I'm guessing it does but would hate to assume and possibly have it fall through the cracks. I've been noticing the occasional redraw and wondered if it might be related, but - then again - I'm also using a different kernel.

BTW: been running 3.99 since its release and its been the most stable custom ROM I've tried in months. Way to go, EvanA and the PA team! Thanx for making the slow stagnation of CM less painful for the masses=) Now if only we can have pretty halo custom settings I've seen in PAC MAN and other ROMs. Where's that Xposed module?

Oh, YouTube runs fine in-app and through Dolphin, for me. Same with Netflix=)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] b0tes:
Found out that XDA theme in Chrome needs to be "XDA 2013 Beta - 1024" to fix the auto-refreshing. Source link here. Again, not ROM related.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] ayysir:
fstrim is built into 4.3 system. no need for fstrm fix

and those custom halo settings is not coming to PA
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Hey all, just wanted to ask a question regarding a clean flash:

I want to do a clean flash, (i.e /system, /data, and even /sdcard) and was wondering how to best go about doing this? Since our Nexus 7 doesn't exactly have an external SD card where I can save the ROM and Gapps package, what would you all's suggestions be?

I currently have TWRP 2.6.1.0 if that helps any.

Much appreciated and thank in advance!

Sent from my OG Nexus 7 with PA 3.98 and M-Kernel a61
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
You would have to use adb to push the zips to the sdcard after wiping it. Look up how to use adb if you don't know how.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Thanks again [MENTION=4953887]EvanA[/MENTION]!

Sent from my OG Nexus 7 with PA 3.98 and M-Kernel a61
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pan.droid:
[MENTION=4186153]TheHighlightGuy[/MENTION]:

I'd add that 'Wug's toolkit' (which can be found under Nexus 7 Android Development, here on XDA) has a tool for - I'm pretty sure - everything you or I will need to do with our N7s. That includes pushing/pulling files, flashing ROMs, rooting, installing apks, backing up directly to PC, etc. Best of all: it's free (though the developer welcomes donations). Anyway, for the novice who's short on time/patience this is a dream. LOL, I'm not exactly 'novice' but I use it 'cause I can't remember all the commands. Though, it can't hurt to memorize them as not every device you may come to customize will likely have such a toolkit.

Not to sound like a plug. I assure all I have no financial/personal ties to the developer. I'd have posted a link, but I'm pretty sure there are rules about that.

Oh, and there's a TWRP 2.6.1.1 available at goo.im (under grouper) or through Goomanager (if you choose 'install custom recovery' from menu options). Not sure what it changes over 2.6.1.0 but I presume it's device specific.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Oh trust me, I'm very well aware of Wug's Toolkit! :D:thumbup: That's how I rooted and unlocked my N7 initially lol I also agree that it is an awesome compilation of tools and definitely a godsend for novices/people short on time.

Even though I am a novice (to Linux and adb), I am not short on time and love using adb because I love learning and not having to rely on an app or toolkit to do it for me. I'm still learning, but I'm getting there :D

Also, I'm fairly sure there isn't a rule against posting a link to the thread for his toolbox here as it's neither "competing" with this ROM and I don't think the OP's of either threads explicitly states not to (typically the rule about not posting is with regards to other dev's works i.e. not taking this ROM, uploading it to your dropbox, and then posting it in a different thread).

Sent from my SPH-D710 running PACMan v23.0.0 + Operation KillJoy, JB 4.2.2. :cool:
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jfed:
I dirty flashed 3.99 reflashed gapps and cleaned davik and cache and it is running nice. Thank you
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Dropline:
Anyone having issues with YouTube? Running 3.99 clean.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Lazer Bear:
You can either use ADB to push the files to the /sdcard partition of the internal memory as someone suggested or alternatively for an even quicker and pain free method you can use the adb sideload function. Basically when you choose "install zip" in recovery, you can choose "install zip from sideload". After confirming, the recovery will prompt you that it's waiting for sideload to start, then just go back to your PC and do an "adb sideload thefileyouwanttoflash.zip" and it will upload it to /sdcard and start flashing it automatically. It is very convenient and I use it all the time, you just need to have all the files on your pc and you don't have to worry anymore about copying anything.

Also, regarding your previous comments on toolkits, you're doing well learning ADB, I can't even remember how many times toolkits failed me and I had to go back to adb to properly flash and root stuff.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] gfunkzero:
I'm on 3.99 with latest gapps and YouTube videos don't load

Also my camera is blank

I was naughty though and didn't do a full wipe updating from 3.6x.. Planning to backup and wipe to see if that resolves these issues

Also: what kernel do people recommend?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheHighlightGuy:
Hmm...I like idea of sideload :D Looks like that's what I'll do first, then! Thanks!! I'll test a few scripts first to make sure I've got it down.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Keitaro:
A good number of people are using Metallice's kernel found here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2168787

Use Trickster Mod (free) from play store if you want to configure settings. Otherwise the defaults he uses are still great :)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spankymo:
take a look here. I personally use m-kernel for a balance between performance and battery.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jfed:
I am also using M Kernel and it works good.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Caliyork:
Anyone got an answer for me?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
You can't use navbar and pie at the same time. Pie replaces navbar.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Caliyork:
Aww, okay thanks.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] auleu:
migrating from 4.2.2 over to 4.3, do you recommend flashing first factory image to update bootloader and do a clean install or just updating the bootloader manualy and then flash pa rom ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
A factory reset is all you need to do. The boot loader update isn't required.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] thereal_bigjake:
I used fastboot for the bootloader and then just did a clean install. No problems at all just make sure you also are using the current TWRP image.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] auleu:
does pa 3 99 has included fix for master key exploit ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spankymo:
yes I think so. it was also fixed in aosp.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Gisbourne:
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone uses Six Axis app with 3.9X and if so are your touch profiles borked?

Unsure when it stopped working, but definitely since v3. I have mailed support who said he would try flashing the ROM on his N7 to do further tests, but would be good to get this confirmed...

Cheers,

G
[Nexus 7 Original Development] flaviocc:
No option to disable Halo and PIE ?

Tks.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kdp162:
Disable pie in quick settings and double tap halo and drag to the X

Sent from my SGH-I747 running PA3.99 with ktoonsez kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] @l3X:
Come on now, quite a few more reasons to use PA then pie and halo...
[Nexus 7 Original Development] billjobs:
Apps crash in other user's profile, do not show up in App-drawer.

The ROM is just awesome..

But there is one big problem, I have to keep 4 Profiles running on the tab, and my dad uses Yahoo Mail (i know :( ). Any app when installed on another User's profile (apart from Default profile) doesn't show up in the App drawer!! Major problem! Also Yahoo Mail kept crashing.. Is this ROM meant for single profile use only??

I could not find any post related to this, and so I m posting..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spankymo:
multiple users should be working just fine, else the PA team would be mentioning it every release. I don't have a second profile on my tab though, so I can't tell if hiding an app from drawer is profile-specific or not. you can try using a different launcher on your profile (e.g. apex or nova) and hid the app from your own drawer.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] TheDarkDefender:
Yep
[Nexus 7 Original Development] 9Lukas5:
Is the 3.98 now JWR66V or still JSS15J?

L
[Nexus 7 Original Development] zarac:
Disregard.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] #define:
3.98 is JWR..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Grizzly6117:
Its both, mix between the two
[Nexus 7 Original Development] maverixz:
Thanks Evan. Installed 3.98 over 7 hours ago and everything going as smooth as one can ask for!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] icu64:
Well I understand that its a mix but that's a little confusing, when it comes to kernels the pa team said that it has to be jrw compatible. How can we tell? Will m-kernel work?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
hi guys,i don't understand,the new 4.3 paranoidandroid for grouper is always builded from source like the old 4.2? because i see all these changes.

sorry for the stupid question,but i wanna understand thanks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] edwinr29:
Good stuff Evan... Just installed and runs great
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lordvincent 90:
You could always try it and see. Worst case you have to reflash the stock kernel
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
Of course its built from source. What part don't you understand?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
my questions were born when the builder for grouper is changed,because i really like the aaronpoweruser job, but now i have tested the evanas build and i'm really happy,because(3.98 especially)are very stable,thanks for the answear and hope for a good development
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Pirateghost:
Just because a maintainer has changed doesn't mean the code is fundamentally different than it was before. The device tree may be modified to handle quirks with a particular device but the source code is the same.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Original Development] Grizzly6117:
They took the best part of jss and put it into jwr If I remember correctly, jwr kernels is what your looking for. I've tried all the major kernels and they work, faux, m-kenerl, franco and so on
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
The JWR release is the latest official AOSP release for grouper. All kernels are going to be based on JWR. The only issues were with the Nexus 4.

Pirateghost is correct, the code is still the same as before. The device tree is nearly identical to AOSP, only a few changes for optimization.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] pit84:
thanks evana,really good job!!
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kdp162:
3.98 is running as smooth as silk... Many thanks Evan :D

Sent from my Nexus 7 running PA 3.98
[Nexus 7 Original Development] alwo1303:
Hi,

i have big problems with the last build.

i came from 4.2.2 with full factory reset but when i want restore a titanium backup( with root allowed) there is always a "parsing" problem ???

also i have no root with the es explorer (i did not found a root option in es.explorer, and the app is not asking for root)

Can someone help?

Greetings Alexander
[Nexus 7 Original Development] kdp162:
Change the backup file from 0 to legacy then restore apps

Sent from my Galaxy SIII running PA3.96
[Nexus 7 Original Development] orangeyes:
Hello,

Might I ask, do you get that smooth as silk effect with HALO enabled?

I am running Faux's mainline at 1.4Ghz and gpu overclock and minimum freq set to 513Mhz.

With Halo on I get some studder quite often.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Original Development] billjobs:
Hey could you please check it, adding another profile and installing an app? would be helpful.. but believe me thats a problem I m sure exists.. Even if I use another launcher, the app crashing problem won't be solved by it right?

Hope to c a reply frm the devs.. just feel it is a bug where nobody has step foot in..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] spankymo:
if you can share to me your login creds I'd be more than glad to try it ;) nope I don't have another profile to try it with. yup, the launcher will just make sure that you hide unwanted apps from your drawer, while you let your dad use the default launcher.

you can reinstall the crashing app or clearing it's cache.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] billjobs:
lol..

Done with all that, no good.. not only cleared cache but reinstalled app too.. didn't work..
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jyesucevitz:
I've used PA Shortcuts since July on 4.2 and now on 4.3 with no problems. You can create shortcuts on the home screen to toggle both pie and halo independently. If it's OK for me to post the link, here it is.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2341406

If not, the op or mod will delete and rightly/justifiably chastise me.

Sent from my very Paranoid Nexus 7 (XDA HD Premium)
[Nexus 7 Original Development] auleu:
ok so i flashed pa 3 99

hybrid widgets always fc no matter what i do and there is no crt off effect anymore, is it removed ?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] r-l:
can't connect to any of the google services because wifi icon stays grey :confused:

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reflashed rom + gapps . problem still here

fixed permission in recovery - problem still here.

i'm going back to cm. no problems there
[Nexus 7 Original Development] lolcopter:
highly doubtful that's ROM related. do you have a connection with other devices?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] r-l:
yes the rest works fine. only my n7 can't connect to the service with google apps (play,gmail etc). browser works fine

got the same problem with pac-man. very strange with cm i had this problem the first time i installed a nightly but i could fix it with a permision fix in recovery

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PROBLEM SOLVED: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2110225
[Nexus 7 Original Development] threepwood960:
Thanks, good ROM.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 usando Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 Original Development] jfed:
Are you using twrp to flash? I was using cwmd on my phone to flash pacman and I had same WiFi problem and had nothing but trouble I switched back to twrp and I now have 4.3 on galaxy note.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] gfunkzero:
hey guys

ive been trying to fix this...

so full wipe etc, installed 3.99 and latest gapps

-youtube videos dont load and eventually youtube FC's

-other video player freezes and FC's

-play music FC's

-camera is blank

seems to be a hardware acceleration issue?

tried changing kernels and a few other things, gone back to 3.67 for now

also had a problem with my backups but that's another story :(
[Nexus 7 Original Development] donpippo:
Am I the only one having problem updating su binary?

Supersu 1.6 always says I need to update su binary, but when I try it fails, and supersu close itself.

thanks

edit.

su works fine

Solved

Select the second choice: reboot in recovery and flash update.

BTW

Is there some conflict between SuperSU and the SUmanager in Settings?

Because before flashing the su update DataSync didn't work.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] tdizzle404:
So I wiped everything and still getting boot loops now my computer won't open my tablet as a storage device anyone have any suggestions?
[Nexus 7 Original Development] EvanA:
I refer you to the bold print in the OP.

Settings -> Storage -> triple dots -> USB Computer connection. Check MTP.
[Nexus 7 Original Development] donpippo:
Ok, I don't know if is a bug or not, but here how to reproduce

Factory reset

Install Paranoid 3.99

Sync with Google Account -> automatically install apps before reset (SuperSu is one of them)

Restore apps data with DataSync -> fails

Let SuperSu flash the update

Restore apps data with DataSync -> works

Maybe it's just my bad luck, maybe is a bug.

Hope my report can be useful someway.

thanks