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[Moto X General] loldi:
Well I was not impressed in the sense that I thought it would get better battery life than my S4. It's touted as "all day" or "24 hour" battery life, so to see it have the same results as the S4 was a bit of a let down.

Still love the phone, just about the only thing I don't like is how harsh/rattly the vibration is.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Join the club. The vibration is the only thing about the phone I don't like. It wouldn't be an issue if we could disable it on the active notifications screen. I've been pestering Motorola about giving us that option and they've acknowledged that many people are complaining. Hopefully in the next update we can turn it off.
[Moto X General] loldi:
That would be nice. I'm still hoping for custom kernels that let you alter vibration strength to save me. I'd put my S4 up for sale tomorrow if typing with keypress vibrations on didn't sound like using physical keys.

I also had the official FB app running all day without turning off message check interval, so that DEFINITELY adversely effected my battery life. Going to give it another go around tomorrow with the app uninstalled.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
You can adjust the vibration intensity for the keyboard. Go into the keyboard settings and hit advanced settings. It's the "keypress vibration duration" setting. I have mine set to 6ms. It's nice and quiet and still gives you adequate feedback.
[Moto X General] srsly989:
Pffft. Your phone doesn't DRRRROOOID.
[Moto X General] clovis_ll:
I'm actually on a ba reception area where my data changes from 4GLTE to regular 4G.. And I got 2 bars of regular 4G for 8 hours that I was at work.
[Moto X General] loldi:
Yeah, I think my phone is just defective then. Even when set to 10ms, it still makes a "tick" when I tap the keys. It sounds exactly like I have the "sound on keypress" option selected. Oh well.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Mine has that tick at 10ms too, that's why I set it to 6.
[Moto X General] d70:
What do you guys think? This is after first full charge.
[Moto X General] saywhat4118:
Lol no. I read a lot of blogs and work was slow that day. Read all about the Nokia acquisition, kit Kat stuff, note 3. You get the drift. I used the phone, didn't just keep the screen on.
[Moto X General] purakushi:
First day of using it, light use, everything turned on, LTE

70% remaining at 15h39m4s. 1 hour screentime, some messing with Google Now, foruming/browsing, short calls, checking e-mails.

I was okay on my Atrix 2, but this is fantastic. Now, I have to debate whether to charge it every night.

I love Active Notifications. I come from using NoLED, so it is basically the same thing. :)
[Moto X General] Yazzinit:
Verizon Moto X arrived today. Full charge while off. Used 99% on wifi, messing with it since it's new and setting it up. 2 hours 50 minutes screen time, 50% battery remaining. I'll take that any day. Will try out a full day of LTE on Sunday during a city trip.
[Moto X General] tw1tch175:
Yup
[Moto X General] txtech89:
My first day on my moto x
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
70 percent used in 23 hours 51 minutes 47s

2 hour 10 minute screen time

About the same as the screen on Android OS usage

1 hours 23 minutes of voice calls also thrown in

Was on wifi almost all day, did have to reboot phone into recovery to wipe the cache partition at the recommendation of Moto Support for wifi issues
[Moto X General] FerraraZ:
I am barely getting around of 10 hours on battery with this phone and I would say usage has been moderate. Currently I took it off the charger at 8 am EST and it is 11:26 am EST and I am at 75%.

This is with battery saver on and being on Wi-Fi for the most part.
[Moto X General] ShamanicEnzan:
Let me make sure I'm reading this right, after 10 hours you had 75% left?
[Moto X General] FerraraZ:
Haha I wish! I am saying so far I have not seen a total days worth of usage go much above 10 hours. The 75% stats were what I am currently at after being maybe 2-3 hours on battery.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
How bad is your signal and your screen on time? Even my GNex with poor signal isn't that bad :(
[Moto X General] FerraraZ:
Well when I'm on WiFi at the office which is 75% of my day, the bars are full but are greyed out. I'm guessing because it does not use any cellular data when connected to wifi?

What are you guys using to gather data that a particular app is performing incorrectly.

*UPDATE* 52% - 5h 52m on battery - 1h 22m screen on
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Here you go buddy. It may not be the 3% in 8 hours like I was talking about before but 2% in over 6 should settle it just the same. How's that crow taste? ;)
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Maybe someone can help me out...

Getting less than average battery life, as far as I'm concerned, and thought maybe someone could help me.

Location off and Google Now disabled. Android OS is at an hour of keep awake, which is way too high. No clue why its hogging so much battery since location is off...

Non rooted as well, so no greenify.
[Moto X General] :
Very very good! You win best standby time as far as I've seen. I'll eat crow when needed. ;)

I'm curious what you've done to achieve that. I've frozen the crap out of apps I don't need and greenified. The only thing I can't control is I have only one or 2 bars here.... Probably not helping.

What kind of screen time do you get on average? I'm around 5 to 6 usually. I'm not sure, other than poor signal, why your standby would be so much better than mine, when my screen time competes with the best of them. Lol

Tonight I'm trying Airplane mode.... That eliminates my poor signal having anything to do with it.

Good job sir! ;)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...

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And why you have out dated gsam? The new version is so much better. :)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...

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And.... Still....... I wouldn't be telling people they have a problem with 1 or 2 percent per hour loss.... Cause that is more the norm. Your time is well below the norm if you ask me. :)

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Hmmm.... I run BBM ....I wonder if it 500 plus times a day waking device hurts my stand by. The time held awake is tiny.... But still.... It's easy above anything else in times waking device.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
[Moto X General] 1454:
Metal, isn't that with with the radio turned off?
[Moto X General] :
No, it's on. Just wifi is off.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I used to have terrible idle drain, like a lot of X owners. But after freezing 60+ things and greenifying everything else, my idle drain disappeared. I leave sync on all the time, but minimize the things that are syncing. I don't use very many of google's services, and all my email accounts are set to check every 30 minutes save for my work account which is push. I also only turn on location when I need it. The location is key, as NLP seems to be the most common wakelock that people are having. I do have great signal where I live so I know that does help at least a bit.

I'm about the same as you for screen time, though I have gotten over 7 hours before.

It's an older screenshot, that's why it's an old version of gsam. I posted it in this thread a while back, just dug it up to shut you up haha :p I was using my N5 up until today, so I wasn't able to get a new screen cap from my X. But nothing has changed since I posted that one. My sim is now in my X and I just pulled it off the charger. I'll cap it in the morning. I haven't used the X in a week so hopefully there aren't any surprises for me lol

Nope, radio was on. That was a normal use case for me. Just charged it to 100% and unplugged it before I went to bed. Didn't do anything special.
[Moto X General] Hardway:
I've been using my Moto X for about 3 days. So far I've notice battery performance to be inconsistent. First day I charged it to 100% and started using it without tweaking anything. I got about 2.5 hours of screen time with 1% remaining battery. I did a factory reset and charged it to 100% again. This time I disabled a bunch of the bloatware and turned location services on as needed for mapping, etc and off when it wasn't being used. This got me a little over 4 hours of screen time with 1% remaining battery. Lastly, I charged it to 100% again and I left location services on 'high accuracy' because I forgot to turn it off. When I woke up my battery was at 85% from 8 hours of standby. I'm going try to play with it some more with location services off and see how it goes. Great phone though, really enjoying the feel and features compared to my Galaxy Nexus.
[Moto X General] ram130:
I'm curious. Have you tried enabling some of the stuff to narrow it down to an few set that is causing the extra drain? I'm sure the list is long.

Do you also have Active display and Touch less control enabled?
[Moto X General] :
Now it's bugging me. Lol everything you described is exactly the case for me too... Yet the other night my drain was 1.1 percent, with radio on. And I just woke up.... This time with airplane mode on..... And it's 0.9 percent. So my idle time loss is almost the same... airplane mode on or off... Which shouldn't be.

I have allot frozen.... Pretty much any motorola service... Even touch less control... The only thing I have is active notification...

Something is different between your set up and mine. I'm gonna do the easy thing.... I'm gonna freeze everything I can without losing phone basic functions and bring things back one at a time until I find the app/service that's causing my drain... Even in airplane mode. It obviously has nothing to do with my poor signal.

At least Battery life is still excellent...... I just know now that it can be better. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...

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And I'd still say one percent an hour is very good loss... 2 to 3 even if you have location service on and a lot of other things.

Chances are what ever I find that is keeping my 1 percent loss from being lower its probably something I'll want... But I'm going to find out... Just so I know. Lol

I'm fine with one percent per hour... Way better than my s2.

Sent from my Moto X cell phone telephone...
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Seems as though my screenshots arent showing up anymore, attempt number 2. Screen half brightness, location and google now off. android OS a bit high and I have no idea why...

Nothing out of the ordinary, non rooted
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Nope, haven't bothered to narrow it down. My phone works exactly the way I want it to, so there really isn't a need. I don't use touchless control but I do use active display.

Have you looked into your wakelocks with betterbatterystats or wakelock detector?

And I agree that 1% an hour is decent for a stock X, but only due to the bad idle drain that it has. My last 4 phones (N5, MX, ONE, GS4) all lost 5% or less overnight. My N5 sleeps like a champ, sometimes it'll only lose 1% overnight. Last night it only lost 2%.

Here are my promised screenshots. I forgot to update gsam for you so the first shot is right when I woke up and then the second is after updating gsam. Lost a point in the process lol.
[Moto X General] ram130:
So you have touch less control enabled but just not using it ?

As for narrowing it down. You only need to enable them one by one and monitor your drain. It would help us pin point the sources of drain. And if needed I can send it off to the Moto team to work on improving.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
No, touchless is completely disabled. I froze it in TiB. With the sheer amount of apps I have frozen it could take a lot of time to figure out. What I can do is post some screen shots later of everything I have that's frozen, maybe that'll help?
[Moto X General] rmead01:
I would certainly appreciate it. I've got a ton of stuff frozen but I always love seeing what works well for others and comparing to what i've already done.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I have a long work day so not sure I'll get to it today but maybe by tomorrow evening. I did post all my frozen apps earlier in this thread and don't think I've frozen anything else since so if you just search this thread for my posts you'll find it. Let me know if you do.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] ram130:
I think I'm close. Still testing. Unrooted:

Thanks it would. However. I think I'm close.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
That's unrooted?! That's pretty amazing for an unrooted X. That's a fraction of what I used to lose before I rooted and got everything set up.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
I doubt it. I don't think BetterBatteryStats works on KitKat if unrooted...
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah, didn't think about that. He did say it was unrooted in his post but I think you're right.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Oh yeah, he does say it's unrooted.

[MENTION=2404483]ram130[/MENTION], how r u able to run BetterBatteryStats on an unrooted KK?
[Moto X General] ram130:
It's unrooted. Only two sections works on the latest BBS. Kernal Wakelock and CPU States.

One day ago I was at 1.1-1%/hr. I did a few things since. Trying to narrow down my brain.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Well like I said man, that's pretty remarkable for an unrooted X. Don't think you can really ask for much better. Next step for you would be to root, freeze, and greenify.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] banboy:
Can anybody explain to me how you can achieve screen percentage around 26% and you can get sot between 2.5 hours to 4 hours ? I know that you got your moto x rooted when you achieve 4hours ish for your sot. But how come screen percentage only 26% n mine is 46 h 50% n sot is only 1 hour something not even reach to 30 minutes.
[Moto X General] kip2001:
Ram130, I'm very curious to see how you make out! I just got my moto x after having a galaxy nexus for 2 years and the battery life is already a lot better, but I think it can be even better! "PowerManagerService.Wakelocks" seems to be the biggest drainer on mine, I'd like to not root the device and keep everything as close to stock as possible so I'm interested in what non-essential apps others are finding to be the power leachers.
[Moto X General] RoyalPeasantry:
Battery life is great so far, first few days with it were fairly heavy usage (including running chromecast for several hours) and I didn't get below 50% for the day.
[Moto X General] scottshebs:
Not even 40 minute SOT either...
[Moto X General] banboy:
What do you mean
[Moto X General] scottshebs:
any idea what's going on here?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Thanks guys. I don't want to root either since I don't have enough reasons to. I've been back and fort on this since I got the phone in September. Best part. I haven't factory reset yet.

You can follow and see most of my battery posts here: https://plus.google.com/+RamonMcNally
[Moto X General] tluley51:
SOT = Screen On Time

I have bad Android OS wake issues...since I am unrooted, its tough to tell what it is eating the battery. Location is off, Google Now is off, Touchless controls are off...
[Moto X General] fruitytoilet:
what do you have greenified and frozen? My moto x is frozen and greenified, but I still have a large amount of drain. Also, it seems as if my phone's battery % stay at 1% for hours...how could I fix that?
[Moto X General] REDFOCZ:
I'm happy with this, is all u ask is to get through a day a work.
[Moto X General] NJGSII:
I don't have any specific numbers yet, but the phone is getting me through the day just fine. Looking at some of the wakelocks, they are much lower than on my HTC One. On over 14.5 hours of the phone being unplugged NLPCollectorWakelock is only at 40 mins or so which is absolutely nothing. This figure would be 2-3x more on my One. The MSM_HSIC_Host wakelock which also plagued my One is non existent on this phone. On one run I pulled in over 4 hours screen time with ease whist a good deal of browsing and listening to music.

I'll have numbers at later post.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I dream about battery life like this...

I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on time after that time off charger
[Moto X General] REDFOCZ:
I have to admit that I am presently surprised with the battery life this phone gives. I had a hard time getting four hours of SOT with my S4 which was rooted and running greenify on a GPe Rom.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I now have root on 4.4 and greenify installed. I am greenifying twitter and facebook...location off and google now off...any tips or tricks for amazing battery life would be great!
[Moto X General] :
I'd love to see what you've froze? :)

I tried 4.4....And after about an hour said yuck and used rsdlite and went back to a clean stock 4.2.2 image. And for fun... I didn't install anything. I froze a crop load of stuff... Charged phone to 100...And put it in airplane mode last night. By morning, again I lost 1 percent an hour.

I'm obviously over looking a serious battery hog system app .... While in idle anyway. I'm still getting excellent battery life today with my normal use.... I could never complain about my battery with normal use. I'll easily hit 24 hours plus with 5 to 6 screen time hours... As usual.... But my idle time, even in airplane mode isn't close to yours.... And you had your radio on. Lol

There's a thread I found with a list of things a guy froze. Mine is almost the same. The only Motorola goodie I've left on is active notification. Everything else Motorola related is froze.

I know it would take time to make a list.... No biggie if life is too busy. ;)
[Moto X General] blackjesusbr:
Just don't know what more to do, my battery consumption is insane ...

Any tips or recommendations ?

Gnow uninstalled , GPS off , Bluetooth off , brightness on minimum , NFC off , only WiFi or mobile network on .

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[Moto X General] :
4.4 unrooted ? Without gsam or something like it... It's hard to see your issue. Playing games? That will kill the battery far quicker than most other things.
[Moto X General] blackjesusbr:
No games and unrooted ( so no gsam support ). Don't have much experience with rooting and other similar stuff ,so I'm afraid of bricking my phone or anything like that. Bad time when I decided to upgraded to KK :/

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[Moto X General] cascade128:
Battery continues to exceed itself:cool:
[Moto X General] tluley51:
How...just how...
[Moto X General] cascade128:
Rooted, BL unlocked, Kangakat 4.4 rom. Location setting ''Battery Saving''. Removed all debloat. Sync only contacts and App Data. If necessary, I'm opening 3G(Not here 4G). But always opened 2G...
[Moto X General] :
Without gsam or something similar, it's hard to see what is eating your battery. You have some extra awake time... But not too crazy...

You've already done the unrooted things I'd suggest.

As far as I see... You can root. Go back to unrooted 4.2.2 and have gsam again.... Or live with it. Sorry. Lol

Even unrooted 4.2.2...you may find the problem.... But you would probably have to root to fix it. Lol

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Just a point here. The guys getting 6 hours screen time are setting brightness as low as they can handle. If that's not for you.... 4 hours is probably as good as you'll see.

Example.... I usually get 5 to 6 1/2 screen time... Mostly on very low brightness.... But today I'm outside allot... So I'm on auto brightness and running pretty bright most the time. I'll be lucky to get 4 hours by the looks of it.

It's probably the biggest factor in screen on time... Not probably.... It is. ;)
[Moto X General] robotphood:
Yep, brightness is the biggest factor. You also have to account for different usage when the screen is on. If I'm reading a static page or text for the majority of the time it's not going to be the same as watching a video or playing a game. If you're reaching 4 hours you're doing pretty well.
[Moto X General] deathsled:
coming from my Evo 3D this thing has insane battery life.

I'm 7+ hours into my day with moderate usage and only down to 75%. My E3D would be dead by now.

I'm completely stock right now on 4.4. I not even sure I'm going to root this phone. The only real reason I think I would now is to get rid of ads. Never seen ads before, but that's because I've immediately rooted any device I had to make some necessary changes and then installed adblocking while I was at it.
[Moto X General] abakshi0110:
Well I have been using it today and now after just After 5 hours and An hour and 10 mins of screen on time 17 mins of calls I am at 54 percent. How come people are talking about 3 hours of screen time
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Here's my post with all my screenshots, I haven't frozen anything else since then- http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45810067&postcount=342

Everything that is not frozen is greenified, with the exception of a few important things. I also keep location off unless I need it. Wifi too, seeing as though sleeping with wifi on seems to cause more drain than LTE.

I'm kinda surprised you are still losing that much in airplane mode. What does betterbatterystats or wakelock detector say?
[Moto X General] someguyatx:
Here is mine for today, normal workday maybe 2 short calls but several hours of streaming music and some camera usr. Not rooted, most stuff turned on with multiple email and calendar sync
[Moto X General] fruitytoilet:
What system apps do you have greenified?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I think just Maps. I have Gallery greenified on my Nexus 5 because it kept causing a bad sync related wakelock even though I have sync turned off. But on my X it's not greenified. Most other system apps are frozen.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I beg someone to provide suggestions...

Rooted, no wifi (all 4G), location off, google now off, medium brightness, a bunch of apps greenified

Not NEARLY as good as most of you on here...
[Moto X General] kolyan:
I need to test my phone with LTE only, I get crazy battery hours on WIFI but never actually tried all day with LTE
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Yeah thats really the only difference I see...I can be on wifi all day, I just prefer not to be since I still have unlimited and get 25 down and 10 up
[Moto X General] someguyatx:
Candy crush is a battery killer
[Moto X General] :
Hmmm.... The only 2 things I had to freeze that wasn't already was google music and touch less control... Which I tried before. Let's see what happens tomorrow night. Can't tonight... Cause I gotta charge. Lol

Appreciate the list! If I can't lower my idle after this.... I'm gonna forget about it.... Really doesn't effect me getting 5 to 6 hour screen times... So I'm not too worried. Just strange that your idle loss is much lower.... And we're setup nearly the same.

Again.... Thanks. ;)

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Oh.... And I had nothing significant for wake locks. They do say not all devices are created equal.... That could play a part. Also I'm on Rogers version.... You seem to be at&t. That could somehow play a part as well. I'm OK knowing I can at least not touch my fully charged phone for 24 hours and lose only 24 percent.... That ain't half bad. Lol
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
The really important thing is that you can make it through a full day on a single charge. 5-6 hr screen time is glorious and is on par with what I average. So yeah, even if you can't get that drain down to where I'm at, I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your awesome phone! :good: