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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shawntim:
1. You should turn on the portable charger only when you don't have access to a power socket.

2. If you're plugged into a power socket, your intention is to charge both the phone and the power jacket. You should switch of the powerjacket. It's redundant because there's already the juice from the power socket. And if you turn on the power jacket, the longer it takes to charge.

3. You can leave the powerjacket connected to the phone. the setup is like this.

Phone < Power Jacket < Power socket
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] zaynal:
More pics of CP12:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Nice, it just seems that the device is intended to be used in landscape mode with this attached though.

No pictures or anyone using it in portrait mode anyway. Be interesting to know how much width it adds to the device.

Pest pictures I've seen to date though :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] meigor2310:
some information about the CP12:

- 3000 mAh

- Aluminium Stylus

Size:

94 x 81 x 3 mm

3.7 x 3.19 x 0.12 inch

and the CP12 have a magnetic cable includet for loading the phone & the cover at the same time.

Informations are from Sonymobile.de:

http://www.sonymobile.com/de/products/accessories/power-cover-cp12/
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Yeah there is definitely a misprint with those dimensions somewhere. The Z Ultra device itself is 179.4mm high and 92.2mm wide

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_ultra-5540.php

Id be interested as long as it doesn't add to much width to the device.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] meigor2310:
Oh Sony don't know their own products, nice :laugh:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
My Brando Powerjacket arrived today http://shop.brando.com/power-jacket-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra-4500mah_p09950c1599d003.html

Very impressed with the build quality, every bit as nice in the flesh as in the picture..

From the manual (attached) it looks like you can charge case/phone at the same time. It will just give the phone priority first and then charge the jacket afterwards. I'm charging it up now, with the phone connected.

The micro usb slot is just about accessible with the case attached, which will be useful for some people. Personally I do transfers wirelessly.

I was concerned about the lack of side protection for the phone, I tried cutting down a TPU case to a "bumper" type device but it didn't turn out very well... A pouch may be advised if your concerned... I think I can live with it as it is, I prefer easy access to the phone panel anyway.

All in all very pleased and fantastic value for money. Will report back on the storage capacity and charging speed in the coming days.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] IsolatedAbyss:
Are you able to provide some pics?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Anything in particular you want to see that is not clear on the ones on the link?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] IsolatedAbyss:
I just want to have a better perspective of the amount of bulk it adds. How heavy does the whole package (case + phone) feel?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
same as IA pls
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
OK I took a couple of quick snaps, sorry the quality wasn't great under fluorescent lights.

I've put it next to a 2012 Retina Macbook Pro so you can get an idea of thickness. Its about 10mm thick with the case attached.

Weight wise I find it fine. Noticeably heavier obviously but I'm less worried about it twisting and bending inside a pocket now.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a0sh7birzage2nk/LYNvPTm-_L
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
thanks. how long did it take to get the case?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
I ordered on the 23rd Sept and it arrived today, so about 14 days
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anirudhks:
I ordered on same day too but still haven't received.. i am in Singapore.. where are u.based out of?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
UK
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anirudhks:
Ok , thanks wil wait for a couple more days and then kick some A**
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] aungkhaingoo:
Can you review about battery quality?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] mozzy:
How much did it cost including shipping
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
$36 USD including the shipping.

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I spend most of yesterday making sure it was fully charged for 5.5hours so I've not really had much chance to make use of it yet.

First impressions seem fine, but it will take a few days to see how much juice I can squeeze out of it. I'll let the phone discharge completely now and report back when I've used the case to charge it back up.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
Pls review how long it take to full charge xzu from below 15%, i wan to know if this power case safe for xzu or not.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] juku0022:
wow! This looks cool! Thank you for your link! :good::good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anirudhks:
sorry guys since I cant post as OP i have updated small review video and pics here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46284358#post46284358
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
Nice review video. So what u use for charging the case? I see it need 800mah input.

I read u review this case only can charge xzu to 85% only? Or im miss something?

And what that mean recycle charging: 500 time?

Thx for review and video, sorry my english so bad.. :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
It took about 3.5hrs to take the phone from 9% to full, with the phone on and me using occasionally to check notifications etc. The Powercase battery itself was then completely flat, so there is no way it holds 4500Mah.. Its closer to the standard 3000Mah, unless of course it starts to hold more charge after a few cycles.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chorca:
Just got my Brando power case in too.

It's not too bad, but really doesn't seem to hold the phone well. There's no latching mechanism at all, just a compression fit between the (somewhat latched) magnetic charging port on one side, and some smooth plastic bars on the other. I found it wasn't secure, but in the 5 minutes I spent playing with it, the phone didn't fall out or anything.

It's pretty easy, just one button on the back and some lights. While charging the phone the area near the LEDs warms up a fair amount.

The inside back of the case is a velvet/open-cell foam kinda thing to not scratch up the phone, and my lazy attempts to peel it back to have a peek inside were to no avail, so no internal pix yet. Most likely just a LiPo battery and charging IC.

I suppose i'm a bit spoiled by the Incipio case I got, because this one just feels so cheap and offers basically zero protection to the device, that I can't see using it on a daily basis; I feel much better with the huge bumper the DualPro case has on it. I'm sure I'll use it, just when I know I'll need the extra power (for those Ingress raids or something). Either way, for the price it's hard to beat for portable battery capacity without having to deal with cords.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] krumbs:
5000mAh Battery Cover

Came across this while looking for alternatives to the Brando battery back. This one claims to be 5000mAh, though that might be a bit of an exaggeration.

But it has a flip cover. And it is only $24 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5000mAh-Ext..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item51b2ebb6c4
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Its nice to see some other options becoming available, particularly as the official Sony CP12 Flip case adds 2cm to the portrait width of the device... Not to mention its expensive.

I've gone back to my normal TPU case for now... I have the power jacket charged and left in the glovebox just in case.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
found this one for the brits (fair few others dont ship to UK)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5000mAh-S...DA_Cases&var=600156437921&hash=item46142808e0
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
I see.. May it need more cycles charge..

Hm.. Btw what u use to charge brando power case? Since i see it input is 800mAh.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
I just use the standard Sony charger and micro USB cable
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
I see. I was thinking using standart sony charge( 5v 1500mAh) can damage the power jacket battere.. Cmiiw
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] noseshimself:
USA only; if you want to get it somewhere else you'll have do dig into AliExpress and find it there.

noses.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] troed:
If this device is designed properly the inner circuits should prevent any damage even when original SONY-charger is used ..................
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anirudhks:
I am having this problm since day one the pins do not sit correctly into the phone and cannot charge when cliped , i need to hold the phone in weird position only thnn it charges ,anyone else faced this problem?

edit : ok guys as i said I had the problem i forced the pins and looks like it broke , so since its of no use i ripped open the case to see whats inside here are the pics below this one has a 4000MAH battery actually inside but just 3.7V
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
It actually looks better than I thought.... I may get one depending on the price.

Just not a huge fan of flip cases in general :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Hawklan:
A bit more that I was hoping

http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z-ultra-power-cover-cp12
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Ouch :p That ain't cheap, for a cover!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Hawklan:
Off topic, but I hope that Piel Frama bring out a case of the Ultra

My outgoing phone is a Dell Streak and is widely regarded as one of the most fragile around. Just sneezing in it's general direction was usually enough to crack the screen. I have dropped it more times than I'd like to admit, but with the full coverage offered by the Piel Frama case it's still intact.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] julz:
FYI looks like the cp12 is now available from mobile fun Link
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
Yeah, way too much for a glorified case.

BUT, the pictures sure help or friends in China to copy the stylus so I can buy just that and the Brando power jacket saving like 3/4 of the price... :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] bryanky5:
$177?? holy o.o I think i will stick to my chinese branded flip cover and Sony CP-V3 portable charger xD

if it was around $99 i would consider buying it.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jutley:
Love the case but way to expensive at the moment will it come in white? well i just picked up a new z ultra on EE uk network for £359 good price not sure if its the 3g or 4g not really bothered really but like the look of this case for the device lets try and find the best price.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
I'd like to get one in my hands before committing to buying one.. I'm concerned about the extra 2cm width it adds to the phone when holding in portrait mode. Also case and device together come to 16mm thick which is a hell of a jump when the phone only is only 6.5mm.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] nobnut:
No. if you read it, it says 'available for preorder'.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] f2:
I received my CP12 today from a German online store.

It's charging at the moment and I only made a small test if it would still fit in my pocket and yes it does. But you can really feel that it increased the size of the Xperia Z Ultra and at the moment I'm not sure if I would like to have it as my permanent case. Give me a few days to test that and I will report back later.

My first impression about the cable that comes with the CP12 is that the magnet in the DK30 docking stating is stronger.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] f2:
I paid the same price that it has now and shipment was free in Germany.

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Hmm, that's weird. I waited now for several hours for the CP12 case to finally get fully charged, but the indicator was not changing. There was no constant light, only some orange blinking when I pushed the button on the case. Instead of the original AC adapter I used the one from my Nvidia Shield (which is far more powerful) but as I said I could not see any changes happening in the last few hours. So I just decided to use the original AC adapter instead (which was connected to my DK30 docking station before) and suddenly the LED lights up constantly orange. So I believe it's now finally charging. That it did not work before makes no sense to me so I assume that Sony wants you to use their own AC adapter and no other (something we know from Apple).

I will investigate this in the next few days and try different USB chargers I have here.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Whats the use like to use in portrait mode with the case fitted?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] f2:
Good question, after testing it now for ~10 minutes (now the case is finally fully charged) I would say it's ..... okay.

It definitely feels more bulky. The leather flap that protects your screen is a little bit annoying on the back of the device. And most important, at least I, can't reach the letters in the middle for the keyboard now with my left hand anymore. So you will be force to change some of your familiar behavior how to type on the Xperia Z Ultra. With my left hand I can only reach up to the R / F / C keys on the keyboard (Swiftkey). All the other letters from there up to the screen right I have to press with my right hand from now on.

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The additional thickness is ridiculous! I took two pictures next to my Nexus 7 (2013). Normally the Xperia Z Ultra is thinner than the Nexus 7, but with the case it has at least twice the thickness, maybe a little bit more:

http://www.suckmypic.net/Cft6pzb9.jpg

http://www.suckmypic.net/yht1gI2a.jpg

But the good news is, NFC still works with the case attached!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] troed:
Got my CP12 case 5 hrs ago.

Charged it with my Samsung Charger for Note 10.1 (5V - 2 Amp) for 2 hours, no problem (charging light orange)

Ultra fits in perfectly, Case is less obtrusive as thought and mentioned here in the forum, still fits into my Scott eVest breast pocket nicely ..........

Looks very elegant, charging is possible with flap closed. Stand function is perfect for me. Now my Z Ultra feels more perfect than before (subjectively for me :laugh:)

Now I don´t have to worry any more on intercont-flights :))

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ADDENDUM :

NFC SENSOR IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL WITH CP12 COVER !!!!!!! Tested it with my QX100

(Didn´t work when I simulated a battery cover by holding an old Samsung battery for SGS III between QX100 and Z Ultra)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
Is this brando power jacket.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
How long it take to charge xzu from below 15% to full using cp12. Thx
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] f2:
I now used my CP12 two times to charge my Xperia Z Ultra and I could only get it from 2% to ~60% with a full charge until the CP12 stopped charging. Screen was turned off, but some data was syncing. Do any other CP12 owners have similar experience?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] titi123:
Is the CP12 flip cover a genuine leather or some kind of synthetic one? Can some owner comment...And the responsiveness of aluminium stylus,good? Whether it will scratch sp when put in use? thanks.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] julz:
The leather seems to be the real-deal cow leather unlike many other leather cases. Definitely feels like and smells like proper cow hide rather than 'bonded leather' which is really polyurethane with leather fibres glued together.

The stylus is responsive just like a pen or pencil but is smooth at the tip and highly unlikely to scratch the screen.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
Cp12 owner pls answer my question below. Thx. :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] titi123:
CP12

Thank you for your comment. The last thing i will have to consider before buying it will be the bulkiness...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] EG8196:
Definitely NOT genuine leather.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] julz:
Are you sure? Definitely smells like real leather and feels like soft leather.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] titi123:
CP12

it better be, can someone reconfirm since no data on web to check the origin....The price is so Sony, so should be genuine leather to justify this price.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] EG8196:
It smells like plastic......
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] titi123:
Why not, for those owner of CP12 contacted their supplier for verification again.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jimmyrusli:
Hello, can cp12 user tell me how long it take for charging xzu from below 15% to full(100%)

Using this cp12 power cover. Is that true cp12 cannot charge xzu to 100% with full charge of cp12? Thx.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] vn33:
CP12 price

The Sony Canadian site list this as $149 Cdn

http://store.sony.ca/case-with-batt...d31-CP12/cat-31-catid-All-Phones-Cases-Stylus

I'm sure the US price would be similar
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] julz:
It will vary depending on the amount of drain your phone is putting on the battery. E.g if you have a wifi hotspot running and are playing games then the battery will drain faster and won't charge as much. If you turn off the phone and let it charge it will charge faster and possibly up to 100%. There's really no standard measurement unfortunately.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kurosawa79:
Got my cp12 today. Initial thoughts are that it's good quality, well built and quite heavy. The cover is definitely some sort of PU blend and not really leather. The backup battery charges the phone fast too. Just not sure I can use this as an everyday case as it's a little too heavy for my tastes.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] EG8196:
I agree with you, it's too bulky
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] pvillasuso:
I ordered this one yesterday :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/16112884038...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

I haven't found any reviews yet
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Justin^Tan:
interesting price. i didnt get how it's gonna charge though, the dock is on the bottom?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wooki:
Ordered the same some days ago (shipping will take around 4 weeks)! Will do a comparison with the Sony XP 12 then!

Sent with my Xiaomi MI2 with Tapatalk Pro
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] pvillasuso:
Mine is coming this friday , tell you guys how it works
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] blueether:
The images show a dock using the magnetic charge port:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
just got this one to replace the basic flip case:

only downside for me is the fact it has no magnetic hold on the screen to keep the cover attached.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ooppee:
Got the same case. Love it.

What makes this case (imo) better than the official Sony battery case is it still allows you to access the sharge port. This was important, I commonly use a OTG cable for controllers (360 Afterglow) or a flash drive.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
yea, forgot about that.

can you charge the phone and the case together?

the other downside is the stand. it's on the far left and the case leans because of it. if it was in the middle it would be fine.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ooppee:
You can charge them together, the case has to be turned off however. I've been charging both together each night.

So charge case, but ensure it's turned off (LED's off on the back).

For the stand. I use this:

http://www.thesource.ca/estore/Prod...Online&category=tablet-cables&product=8008153

Props it up better and charges both the case, phone, my BT headset and then I have 3 outlets to still use for other things.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wlau7:
after fully charging the CP12 to 100% , and than charge to ZU (around remain 5% and phone switch off) , it only can give around 65% battery charging and the the CP12 LED OFF

that means fully battery CP12 only can charge around 65% ZU ( test 5 times same result) :( :( :( :( :( :(
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Was the Z Ultra powered on while you were charging? If so its not really a true result.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wlau7:
yes i powered off the phone when charging....i test 5 times...only can have around 65% bettery to ZU with fully charged cp12
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Damn thats not good at all :( Considering the price of the item, I'd probably ask for a replacement or a refund.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wlau7:
you already buy?

you have not try?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
i haven't tried with mine yet actually (5000Mah). really should
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wooki:
I learned in another forum, that usb battery's will never charge their full capacity here's why:

The cover has a battery with 3000mah @ 3.7v it then converts this to 5v (=2200mAh capacity) for charging (with a slightly loss because of conversion efficiency) then the phone converts it back to 3.7v (again with a small loss)..

Without the conversion loss you would get a 74% charge with this battery!

With the loss 60-70% should be normal!

Ps: your battery needs some cycles to get the full potential but you'll never get 100% charging because of what I tried to explain!

I hope I could help you!

Sorry if my English isn't the best :(

Sent with my Xiaomi MI2 with Tapatalk Pro
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] DesertHawk:
Check your PM :P Do you have a Z Ultra
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wlau7:
thx ur explain,

i know it will never can get 100% fully charge , but just don't disapoin it less more...only 65%... it really not enough
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kable:
How much bulk does this add to the phone?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] julz:
Probably doubles the thickness including the flip cover.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xPoiled:
i'm not an XZU User yet but i am planning to grab one soon! It does disappoint me if the CP12 can't charge the XZU to atleast 90%! Yet the sexiness of this powercase is so tempting! :D

-XZ User here
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tommo123:
to update,

mine now charges from 5% to 100% with charge left to go :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
That is darn good! :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jah:
Just received my slim power case from Brando. Case much slimmer than expected.and.good quality. Front cover lays flat. Stand on the back very functional. Highly recommended. Also delivery to the UK was very quick.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Buddy Revell:
Can you let us know how good the battery does at extending the on-screen time for our phone? I'm looking into different battery cases right now.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] twin snakes:
In the case it say "output 5v - 1A ~ 1900mah, 1900mah is around 63% of the ZU's battery capacity, so it explained why it can provide juice around 60-65%. Is there any way to achieve at least 90% anyone? use it with some special kind of charger or sth like that?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
That is the reason I am thinking on going with one of those 4500 or 5000 ones..even though I dont think they REALLY have all that power..from reviews people is claiming full charges with them so who knows...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jah:
So far very impressed. But you can't charge the power case without the phone. I will report on how well it works but please.note that I always charge before battery drops below 50%. Current guess is that I could.charge twice from 50 to 100 % with one full charge for the case.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jah:
First charge I tried with the Z Ultra while monitoring it was charged from 52% to 94% and I had over half of the battery life available in the Brando case. So as I guessed probably able to nearly fully charge the Z Ultra from the case battery.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jah:
Agree about matt finish.

I was also worried about the position of the antenna and metal and electrical part of the case. I have not noticed a significant reduction in the signal however.

For testing purposes I did not use my phone while charging.

The button on the back I noticed can be used to start and terminate charging.

What do you think about the front cover?

Thanks for the very informative review.