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[Moto X General] :
I thought xposed might have something to do with it... But last night was a clean stock debloated phone. Lol

I hear you tho... I'm gonna try again... But no Matter the outcome, I'm not gonna worry... Cause I am getting top notch life on this great phone. :)

And anyone reading that thinks all that freezing is killing the purpose of these phones... To each their own. I don't feel that way.... I would never use any of the things I've froze anyway. :)

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Oh... And yeah... Was outside allot today... So had to just put it on auto brightness. And my 5 to 6 hour screen time turned into 4 hours 15 minutes. So if you want the longest screen time possible.... No auto brightness... Put it to low... So low as you can stand.

I understand some people want to see their bright beautiful screen in all its glory.... Just don't expect the huge screen on times that some get. You'll be 3 to 4 on average I'd bet. :)
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I use Xposed (GravityBox, SMS Xposed, Notification Mod) and it has had zero affect on my battery life. No lag either.

Yeah, some people make stupid comments like that, but not everyone uses every feature. Everything that I want to work, works. And works beautifully. Screw the naysayers! haha
[Moto X General] ForSquirel:
Working with tasker I'm managing great battery life on this phone. I'm pretty sure this is gonna change though as I'm wardriving with it now just for S&G's. When I'm not constantly checking wifi status I seem to be going about a day and a half between recharges. If I'm doing a lot of messing or some serious txt'ing for work I might get 18-20 hours on a charge.

my setup is no mobile when on wifi, bluetooth never connected unless I'm not on wifi and absolutely no gps(just don't need it)

also rooted running only what I need to.
[Moto X General] scottshebs:
I'm also getting similar battery life.. no clue what else to do.
[Moto X General] cybrwulf:
I ditched "GEL" or Google Experience Launcher on mine, and I am back seeing good battery life again here....
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Someone mentioned candy crush as the culprit...I call shenanigans, I will post my battery stats again today WITHOUT candy crush being opened and it will be the same. I also have it greenify'ed so it shouldn't be bad at all.
[Moto X General] :
Greenified it won't be so bad. But not Greenified it is certainly a battery killer. Used to be on our N7 till I Greenified it. Playing it drains the battery as bad as any top racing games too tho. ;)
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Thanks, I will be reporting my battery life this evening with my usual daily use. So far, I am in decent shape. Almost 3 hours off charge, 95% battery left with 15 mins screen on. I am just asking for 3+ hours screen on time with 15-17 hours off charge and cannot seem to get it.
[Moto X General] fury683:
I average about 14 hours a day (over the last ten days or so), with nearly 5 hours of screen on time per day.

I use my phone a lot, but am on WiFi for usually all but about 2-3 hours a day.
[Moto X General] :
That's pretty good. Get rid of that 3 hours of held awake time and you'll go 24 hours tho. :) But still good screen time. After the wake lock problem is solved... You'll get an extra hour screen time easy .
[Moto X General] fury683:
So I can see what apps are causing the wakelocks in GSAM, but how do I stop them? I've looked in App Ops and don't see a way to remove wakelock. Are my options to just deal with it or remove offending apps?

Also curious how fixing the 0.1% battery usage will gain me another hour? Wouldn't that imply that saving 1% could gain me 10 hours? Seems strange since GSAM says I use about 6% per hour.
[Moto X General] :
Was just saying 3+ hours of held awake is kinda nuts. I usually get around 24 hours... And at worst 45 minutes of held awake time over that 24 hour period.

Can you print screen the held awake time screen in gsam.... Can see what it looks like? Depends on the apps ... How you can stop them. Greenify maybe, or get rid off. Some apps are just bad if left alone. But... Is this an isolated incident, or are you always near 3 hours held awake.

And yes. I would bet with your phone sleeping properly you can almost double your stand by time... And add a good hour to screen time..... Without that juice being wasted cause your phone isn't deep sleeping. ;)

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And that 0.1 percent is a lie. ;) without deep sleep your battery suffers plenty.

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Maybe a screen of the times held awake also..... Whatever is keeping phone up is probably doing it a lot for short periods.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Thanks. I'll take more in depth screen shots tonight before bed and see what it looks like. I came from a Razr Maxx and do miss having plenty of battery for the day and lasting well into the night, but I love the Moto X. I'm never really anywhere that I can't charge my phone if I really need it.
[Moto X General] sm753:
I get around that much wakelock on a typical day...~3 hours :( I can't figure out what's causing most of it with BBS/GSAM/Wakelock detector
[Moto X General] :
That's strange. I don't know bbs... But in gsam, in app sucker screen and time held awake screen... There's nothing huge? Or in kernel wake lock screen? Nothing really high in either?

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11 hours into my charge... At 66 percent left... 2 hours screen time and 14 minutes of held awake. Yeah... 3 hours in 14 hour charge is really bad. Hopefully some screens of those gsam screens will shed some light on it.
[Moto X General] banboy:
Sorry for this retard question but what is

Gsam ?
[Moto X General] mademan420:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
[Moto X General] fury683:
Looking at it right now, about 9 hours since coming off the charger, at 61%. 1h29m screen on, held awake 2h20m.

GSAM held awake time says:

Kernel 1h8m31s

Google Play Services 47m48s

500 Firepaper (live wallpaper thinger) 5m27s

and then a bunch of apps that are <4 minutes each

Kernel Wakelocks says:

suspend_backoff 36m39s

qcom_rx_wakelock 10m39s

pm8921-charger-heartbeat 8m32s

alarm_rtc 7m15s

pm8921_soc_lock 5m0s

wlan 4m2s

and a bunch more of <3 minutes

Thoughts?
[Moto X General] ram130:
You reduce some held awake by disabling location reporting in the Google app.
[Moto X General] scottshebs:
If you're having battery life problems, try using safe mode. I was facing terrible battery life after updating to 4.4, not to say my battery life on 4.2.2 was great but it could last me throughout the day. 4.4 wouldn't even get me to 10 hours with 2 hours or less SOT. Prior to 4.4 i could manage 18 hours with 4.5 SOT. Safe mode will boot the phone without any third party apps, to see if it is the OS or multiple apps causing the drain. I did this and found that Facebook and score mobile were the biggest drainers. Now after a factory reset and only the installation of apps i use and the mobile Facebook site as a bookmark on my home screen, I am back to 20+ hours and 5 hours SOT. Try it for yourself:

To enter safe mode,

Hold down the power button

Press and HOLD power off, until it gives you the option to boot into safe mode.

I highly suggest any of you facing excessive battery drain to try this. I have taken many suggestions from this thread, disabling sync services, google hot word detection, location services, disabling google maps, and nothing seemed to stop the drain. The root of the problems were buggy rouge apps, and after removing them I am back to 4.2.2 battery life, if not better.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Well I am on LTE all day today. I have 55% left on battery now with 11:40 on stand by and 2:45 screen on. Pretty much same as on WiFi.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
That's what greenify is for. Keeps those battery hogs from draining your phone when you're not actually using the app. Aside from titanium backup, I think greenify is the best root app available.
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
Does that really make any impact on battery life?
[Moto X General] fury683:
Here are my final stats for yesterday. I turned Google Location Reporting off halfway through the day at the suggestion of [MENTION=2404483]ram130[/MENTION]. I did get probably the best day I've had, but I used the phone down to 1%.

Held Awake time was over 4 hours, but over three hours of that is between Kernel, Google Play Services and System (*wakelock*).

I am pretty happy with 17 hours, as it was pretty heavy use, but as I'm sure most people would say, I'd be happy to extend it.

I've never used anything like Greenify, but might take a look. Does it essentially do same/similar as Disable Service? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice

Suggestions?
[Moto X General] mademan420:
Greenify still gives you total access to whatever app/service you choose to greenify. The main dif is that it when not in use, it will hibernate the app/service to keep it from draining battery while running in the background.
[Moto X General] :
This may be a long shot.... But are you rebooting after you unplug from the charger? If not... Try it... Every time.

An example... 2 days ago my S2... that my daughter now uses for Netflix mostly... Acted the exact same as your phone. It had 9 hours of held awake time... In 19 hours and was nearly dead... With 19 minutes of screen time... And with that phone, I know exactly why.... I didn't reboot it when I grabbed it for her off the charger. That phone has been hit or miss with that issue since day one. But I always rebooted after unplugging it and that held awake time never happened then. It's been a known issue for the s2 since ics or even before. Doesn't always happen, but it can.

Anyway, something google related is killing your battery. Try to reboot after charging, make sure Gps, location services are off and turn off All syncing. And greenify almost everything... For now. If this solves your held awake time.... Ungreenify one thing a day that you want running. If one of those apps is the culprit... You'll find it.

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Bottom line.... I would not ever be satisfied until that held awake time gets under an hour. 4 hours is unacceptable. ;)
[Moto X General] fury683:
Thanks. I don't reboot my Moto X super often, which is mostly because it doesn't bog down like my Droid Razr Maxx did. I usually rebooted my Maxx every 48 hours or so to keep it from becoming unbearably slow. I haven't noticed any slowness with the MX, and assumed it was this fancy TRIM thing I've heard of. Currently have about 39 hours of uptime.

I'm going to see about this jcase SlapMyMoto v1.0 method to get recovery and such this weekend and will check out Greenify after that.
[Moto X General] wmjchoi:
Mediaserver wakelock

Hi,

I've had my X for about a week now. I have noticed that whenever I use Google music to play songs on the server and on my phone, it takes up significant amount of battery. Also, whenever I am done with listening to music it seems like "Mediaserver" is keeping my phone awake.

Does anyone have a solution for this? Should I just greenify Google music?

Thanks
[Moto X General] ram130:
That's awesome! Since you did it half way during a discharge. Your held awake will be even lower on your next charge.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
A full work day and I still have 90%. The X never ceases to amaze me.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I froze almost everything you displayed. I'm not close to that, not bad but not close lol. How did you get around the exchange wakelock issue with 4.4?

Also when you say Greenify everything, does that include the stuff that doesn't show any wake?

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] Jexx11:
I'm guessing from the looks of his screenshot he's not on 4.4
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
You know what. I think he mentioned staying on 4.2 but I forgot. I love art too much. I activated it on my Nexus5 before I knew what it was and never went back. My greenify question still stands.

Sent from my MotoX Developer Edition
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Yeah I'm still on 4.2. I have my N5 for 4.4, I prefer the look of 4.2 for my Moto X. I've greenified basically everything, including apps that don't seem problematic. The only things that aren't greenified are the important ones that sync, like email and google voice. So pretty much everything I've downloaded from the play store is greenified, and Maps is as well.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Can you enable the Motorola Slpc services( and system) and tell me if your stand by drain increases? If possible there is an increase. A before and after stand by drain per hour shot.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Sure thing. I'll charge it up to 100% and enable those and just leave the phone sit for a day and see where it's at.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Well 4-6 hrs would be ok. Lol. I have a few more I want to test that I suspect. What's your current stand by drain usually?
[Moto X General] jlbarber:
I've had mine for two days.

First day it was pretty bad. it was down about 20% after 2 hours.

Now I stopped using Motorola Connect and adjusted some of the notification settings. I'm at 50% after about 12 hours.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Probably around .3-.4%/hr. I generally lose 2-3% overnight.

I don't have Motorola slpc services in my list here. Just Motorola Services 6 and Motorola Services Main 1.0. Are those the ones you want me to enable?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Ok perfect. No not really. But go ahead. Do you have device ID disabled? If so, enable that as well. Be sure to go to it at least once.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I don't have Device ID either. I have Motorola ID. Are you on 4.4? Maybe that's why I don't have these.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Someone told me that Candy Crush was the reason for my battery drain/not great battery life. Here is proof that was NOT the reason:

Just to recap, rooted, stock rom, greenified a whole mess of apps, no location on, no Google Now and 4g LTE all day
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Just got mines today and updated to 4.4, came at 50% or so. At 25% so far and have over 1hr&10mins onscreen time. So I'm expecting better when I completely charged.
[Moto X General] someguyatx:
Wife's first day, light user looks like she left WiFi on all day. Should get about 2 days with her usage
[Moto X General] bgdc:
Horrendous battery life after 2 weeks. I'm coming from a rooted Razr M (easy two days of battery life while going through hundreds of emails a day) and this is so bad, I'm about to send it back to Motorola.

Phone: Moto X Developer Edition, running 4.4 and using T-Mobile as network carrier with a solid signal. Unlocked bootloader, not that that really means anything.

95% of my day the phone is on my home office desk doing nothing. No wifi as it drains even faster with wifi on. With just LTE and 13 minutes of talk time, after 12 hours I'm below 60% battery life. That's 3% an hour in standby mode - which is an improvement over last week when it would drop by 5-6% an hour. I've removed all non-stock apps as something was keeping the phone awake last week. Even now with the phone having minimal awake time it just seems to be draining while doing absolutely nothing.

Strange thing - wife's Moto X is a general phone with 16 GB and she's getting days of life out of it.

I've still got a second wrapped developer edition phone sitting on my desk and I may break that one out to see if it's any better. Considering rooting so I can control it more but the giant list of steps reminds me of the days of rooting my Incredible. Egad, don't want to spend an hour rooting a phone.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Have you checked your wakelocks?
[Moto X General] bgdc:
Just rooted my phone so now I can run wavelocks. Prior to that 4.4 won't let you run WLD without root access. So I'll see how it goes now that I can really pause/remove offending programs (and stuff I view as bloatware Music, Books, etc).
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Here is mines. Took out of the box today, factory reset before and after update. Turned off sync a while back, location is off and everything else running. Phone came at 50% or so.

Going to let it drop to 0, turn itself off and let it fully charge.

Sent from my XT1053
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Two things. If your bootloader is unlocked rooting is easy. Use ADB it's easier than the tools provided here and you don't have to reboot to make changes.

2. I bet you use an exchange email and that's what's draining you. It's a 4.4 bug. 4.4.2 fixed it on my Nexus5. I use mail droid to handle my exchange email until MotoX upgrades. I recommend using maildroid.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yes Motorola ID
[Moto X General] bgdc:
Yep, it took about 15 minutes to root. Reading the thread about rooting it took longer! (had to check for pitfalls).

No, I only have one email account, gmail, set up on the phone and that is not a synced account. I must trigger requests to check for email and I only do that 2-3 times a day. The other email program is disabled. Used to be a heavy Touchdown user on my old phone but it's not even installed on this phone as I am now boycotting work-related email on my phone until they pay my bill automatically (ie without submitting an expense report).

So after rooting, I turned off wifi and left the phone sitting. In eight hours the phone was not awake, according to the battery, but still it chewed through 16% of its battery sitting still.

Installed BetterBatteryStats...we'll see now...
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
So after enabling those 3 things (and opening device ID like you asked), it would appear that none of them cause any significant drain when idling. 96% after 14 hours.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X General] :
Yeah . Don't know what you've done any different.... But great standby. Best I've seen is 0.9....in airplane mode too. I can't blame my crappy signal at home. It's like just over 1 with radio on too.

Not complaining tho anymore... My overall battery is excellent. Here is my current right now.
[Moto X General] youwonder:
Sadly, my battery life seems to be in line with the anandtech review instead of the MBL review, which is to say poor.

Android os sucked up 11% of battery last night doing.... Absolutely nothing?

it played keep awake for 30 minutes apparently. Any tips on getting this guy in line? I've already got bbs+ and am going to keep a close eye on it.

I just wish I could get some of the amazing results you guys have, 5 hours screen on time? He'll I got 2 yesterday.

If it matters any I just got the phone two days ago.
[Moto X General] :
The majority of guys getting 5 and 6 hour screen times are rooted, debloated heavily and Greenified. Screen very dim... Location service off, GPS off, syncing off mostly... And other neat tricks.

Without all that done, or most of it...seems 3 to 4 hour screen time is about the best you'll see.

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That's how any phone works tho... Not just the X. ;)
[Moto X General] youwonder:
I guess I just expected it to be more like the mbl review, "fantastic". This is below par to my old htc one and easily much worse than my z1,though that thing is a monster so I'm OK with that. I'll have a look at some tweaking measures, thanks.
[Moto X General] :
I don't take stock in battery reviews... Those results are based on certain benchmark tests... And yes, some phones handle certain tasks with better battery conservation than others. But here, in the real world it's not a benchmark test... It's real use. I read and read before I purchased, and I can tell you... On average the HTC one battery life is no where near the Moto x. Just look through our battery threads and the ones threads.

Anyway.... Many many many things effect battery life. And luckily, using something like Xda, you can learn how to push your battery life and squeak as much out of it as possible.

First, without something like Gsam from play store to monitor where your battery life is going.... It's near impossible to figure out battery drain issues. So get that and see why your battery is well below average. ;)

I've read the G2 battery threads too... And the X can compete with it in battery life too... Just takes some tinkering.
[Moto X General] youwonder:
i agree with you on the first point, which is exactly why i chose to believe the mbl review going on real use than anandtrchs review based in their battery test suite. that being said from there we differ, my battery life on my htc one was subjectively much better it seems, which i find odd given the specs and results in the two threads as you pointed out.

ill dl gsam to go with bbs+, thanks.
[Moto X General] geminihc:
Im AMAZED at how long my phone lasts on the last 1%, did anyone notice it?

i've been on 2 days 10 hrs now, and in the past 10 hours its been on 1% only (most of it was sleeping, but i did turn it on and receive txts a few times after i wake up).
[Moto X General] ram130:
Thanks man! Ok forgot to mention one thing. I wanted you to open Motorola ID and link your Google account. Then reboot.

Can you still do that and test? I'm happy you helping. I plan to submit the results to the Moto team.

We can also do the next step if your want to help.

Can you enable. Motorola Device management. Moto Care and related services. As well as ModemStats Service?

It sucks you don't have Slpc services:

Few questions :

Your not on 4.4 correct? How come?

Do you have, location and active display on?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Oh I gotcha. I'll do all that tonight before I go to bed and let it sit overnight.

Not on 4.4 because I don't like the way it looks. I think the Moto X is perfect on 4.2 so there's no need for me to update. I have a Nexus 5 so there really is no point in having two phones on 4.4.

Active display is on, that's my favorite feature so no way would I disable it. I only turn on location when needed.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Thanks. Enable location as well. But leave it on battery saver.

Um. 4.4 would help level the playing field. But since I've been having 0.9-1.3%/hr drain since 4.2. I guess it shouldn't matter much.
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
This is after my first full charge, 100% to 1%. Location off because I don't really need it, sync off (Though sync last night) and always scan for wifi off. Phone is fully stock. Display was to about 30% which I like to use, and it still looks great. All of this was on WiFi. Android OS CPU total was 51m 33s & Sytem CPU total was 43m 8s.

Haven't gotten a chance to get my LTE SIM so I can't do no tests on it until.

Really surprised. Coming from a Captivate Glide that only got 1 hour SOT. And with this almost 7 damn hours of SOT. Don't really have a need for root atm, though I would like the circular battery percentage and possible tasker. But hey, with performance like this, I can't complain.

Sent from my XT1053
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
K. I won't get to it tonight but I'll do it tomorrow. And FYI 4.2 doesn't have the battery saver option like 4.4 does. Just GPS and network.
[Moto X General] mademan420:
Interesting.... My does, but I'm running Eclipse V1.0

My bad, just realized what you meant ;0)
[Moto X General] ram130:
Oh Yeah. Just leave GPS off and only enable network.

Do you have Google now and touchless control enabled?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
No and no. Don't like or use either of them.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Thanks. This should be interesting.
[Moto X General] Kittiesoncrack:
thoughts on this?
[Moto X General] :
I'd say that's not that bad... If you've done nothing to your phone and depending on what brightness you've been using.
[Moto X General] Kittiesoncrack:
yeah. Im on stock 4.4 and not rooted. brightness is around 30%