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[Moto X General] ram130:
Yea. Like me. I get 1-1.3%/hr.

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So...this is what a user I'm talking with gets:

All stock. No location, BT, WiFi. All moto stuff enabled except device ID is not linked.
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
With location off I'm getting less than 1%/hr on standby. All stock, not rooted, some stuff disabled on app ops. But I can't get past 4hr sot on daily usage. Maybe if I stay home all day on WiFi...
[Moto X General] :
A day and a half. Nice. :)

I'm keeping this phone till it breaks.

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[Moto X General] ram130:
This is his gsam. Must say 0.0% held awake even with screen on is amazing.

Keep in mind gsam isn't calculating from full charge. He installed it a lil after he was unplugged.
[Moto X General] :
Nice standby!

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I believe not all devices are created equal...for any phone. They must change some things in manufacturing as time goes on. Some changes for the better, some for the worst.

Have you tried to mimic his phone completely? Identical settings and such. If the phones are identical...you should get the same battery life as him? Should.

Metalhead posted his froze apps way back....which I copied...And then some, everything off...like him...And yet his standby time was still better than mine. I've given up caring and accepted my 1 percent per hour, cause I am getting good life........but still shows that all devices must not be created equal. :)

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[Moto X General] REDFOCZ:
I'd say battery life is awesome, got me a full day with heavy use

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[Moto X General] ram130:
It is good. He gets 3-4days stand by with 3-4hr screen on. I would want to mirror him but I'm not trying to reset until I need to. I got two users to reset today though. So I'll be testing with them. I'd rather wait until the next update. So far I haven't reset since I got it in August. And just like you I'm getting around 1.1-1.4%/hr drain.
[Moto X General] jco23:
i'm fully convinced that battery life is mostly tied to mobile data signal and/or cell signal (which could be how the kernel handles it). normally, I get great battery life - but yesterday, I spent 75 minutes in a casino, and lost 20% battery while idle. most of that time, I realized that I had a 1X data signal.

normally, I get about 1%/hour battery drain.

so unfortunately, battery life could depend on where you are.
[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Indeed is does jco, a similar thing happened while I was in class, terrible cell radio signal destroyed my battery to out the same drainage. If you have strong cell reception for those who are in well developed LTE or strong 3G areas there SOT won't be much of a difference compared to Wi-Fi

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[Moto X General] :
At my house I usually have one or 2 bars of signal only....better than none on my s2, and I still get amazing battery life.

Yes, I'm normally on Wi-Fi...But the radio is still always on...just not data.

Personally I don't think signal strength is a big factor...some, but not good vs bad battery life difference. No way. ;)

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Unless people are trying to say bad signal for data only effects battery life....that may be....But with Wi-Fi on and poor signal strength on radio I do get amazing battery life still.

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[Moto X General] Aar_on:
Looking at all the awesome battery times is making me jealous, could anyone explain to me why I'd have 1-2 hours of held awake in GSam? right now it shows app usage is my top drain, with Kernel (Android OS) leading the pack at 60%. Location on, Wifi connected all day.

Thank you!
[Moto X General] :
Gsam screen shots near end of a full battery cycle would help see what's going on.

But off the bat....from what you said, location on will eat some juice. ;)

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[Moto X General] jco23:
i second that - location is not really needed, as the apps/services will get that from the wifi/mobile data signal. I have mine set to "battery saving".

otherwise, I have on and running all the time:

bluetooth

wifi

mobile data

location reporting

touchless control

auto background sync

with all of these on, I still get a full day with 3 hours of on-screen time.

I do disable:

auto backup of data/pics/vids

auto app update

camera gesture

location tagging when taking pics/vids
[Moto X General] EasyOne:
OK, I rearead this entire thread trying to figure out why I have such abysmal standby battery drain, >2-3 %/hour.

Did a factory reset, only clock widget on home screen. Gmail, calendar and contacts syncing. Location on low power. Wi-fi on. Gps, nfc, bluetooth off. Google Now, Touchless control & Moto Assist off. Active display on. This seemed like a minimum setup for a daily driver. Getting @ 1%/hour in standby now. (also went back to Dalvik, Art was causing Google Service to crash every few minutes)

In comparison: My HTC One X+ with 5 screens of widgets, everything syncing, including Yahoo mail & weather every half hour. Google Now & location on. Dropbox, Box, Google Drive and Skydrive all syncing, + whatever else I've put on it over the last year and I regularly get < .5%/hour in standby - 5-7 days! Minimum 3 days with several hours of talk time, texts, and music listening. Elegancia ROCKS!

Love the Moto X and I can live with 1%, with it's attendant loss of functionality, but it seems that this phone was designed for the heavy user, fantastic SOT but not so good at actually using all the bells and whistles this phone comes with (and that made it so appealing) without a severe battery life penalty. On the plus side it's a really nice device with a ton of potential & I expect development on this phone is going to be impressive. Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far to getting it/me on the right track - probably would have sent it back otherwise.
[Moto X General] :
So I switched to Ondemand and noop and u/c to 1400 something ...not sure it made much difference for me. Going to try ondemand and cfg and go back to stock CPU speed.

Was hoping to try conservative ...but that's not an option.

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[Moto X General] wmjchoi:
google search wake lock

Is anyone having google search wake lock? If so, could you explain how to stop it?

Thanks
[Moto X General] ram130:
I'm getting 1% with all of those features you turned off on. So go ahead enable them.

Rest assured Moto is working on improving the stand by times.
[Moto X General] termleech:
I'm assuming moto is using mpdecision since this cpu is qcom based. That's being said the governor you chose isn't going to do much. Mpdecision pretty much overrides any governor you would select.
[Moto X General] MakoVince:
Hey everyone, just picked up a Moto X about a week ago, coming from a Nexus 5. I've been holding off any judgment until I went through several cycles but from what I'm seeing this can't be normal.

I'm getting decent screen on time but what confuses me is how much extra drainage I'm getting from Android OS. Unfortunately I rebooted the phone sometime today so my stats from GSAM and BBS aren't really accurate but here are some screens. I've greenified most apps that I can so I've run out of ideas.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
This is a bug on 4.4 for the Moto X, most users on 4.4 have this high Android OS battery usage.

4.4.2 is around the corner and should fix this issue...
[Moto X General] badjedi:
I wanted to see how long the battery would last with light use and I was totally impress with the results. :good:
[Moto X General] ram130:
Soo...
[Moto X General] :
Active notification? LOL. That's about the only thing I never froze. ;)

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[Moto X General] RenSoAbrupt:
Seems my phone gets 1hr SOT per 15% on Wi-Fi and 20% for 4G. Wouldn't say that is bad.

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[Moto X General] murso74:
Charged to full and left alone as I slept. 2.2 power hour seems like a lot to me with no screen time
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
clearly your apps drained the hell out of your phone. Android OS should be top the list. Pulse and facebook and google play beat it. Thats impressive haha. But fix those and you will get much closer to 1% per hour.
[Moto X General] murso74:
Don't know how... I deleted pulse since I use it more on my tablet... But play music? Why is that running so much?
[Moto X General] :
Also you have Bluetooth on....location services I bet? GPS?

I'm surprised with those and Facebook and pulse..whatever that is....that your drain wasn't way higher. ;)

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[Moto X General] murso74:
What I dont get is that none of this was happening when I got the phone... I've been using it the same way for months. I suspect KitKat but why those programs. I can't even sniff 18 how standby with 3-4 hours screen time like I used to. BTW pulse is a news reader
[Moto X General] ram130:
It is. Next update should help out a lot. But for now try a reboot and disable location reporting. Bluetooth don't drain much at all in stand by.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
also, just because the phone wasn't doing it initially doesn't mean that the apps weren't updated to something else that caused the drain. 4.4 was a big step and i presume app development is having just as hard of a time keeping drain down as the android/moto devs. There is also the possability that some of those apps were doing something in the background that it doens't do often and you just happened to catch it on the right day. Further, pulse might have gotten hung up on something and created a wakelock that lasted for a long time that it normally wouldn't so many possibilities that it is hard to nail down. thats why greenify is good.
[Moto X General] Restola:
One thing Play Music will do is auto-cache music it thinks you will listen to. It will download hundreds and hundreds of MB of songs and store them on your phone. Not sure if that's causing your issue, but you can turn that option off in Play Music settings.
[Moto X General] murso74:
Good to know!
[Moto X General] jco23:
What I usually do is cache my playlists. Otherwise play music should not be running.

Greenify will help.

Also, I leave Bluetooth and location reporting on all the time, and my battery does just fine.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
I feel like my battery life's been getting consistently worse... This one is actually pretty good compared to other days, since I left Skype off today for the sake of conserving data.

Any suggestions?
[Moto X General] ram130:
Disable WiFi scanning in WiFi settings and advanced.
[Moto X General] iandr0idos:
Woah, didn't know that setting existed. Thanks, I'll try that.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yea on by default since 4.3. Sucks. Disabling Google location reporting in the location tab will help too.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
Whoa, for the first time I hit 6 hrs SOT with cm11 posted yesterday , 23 hours without a being connected to the charger

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[Moto X General] jjl468:
My battery life has been a lot worse the past few days, which may or may be influenced by the fact that I installed a lot of new xposed modules, but all the modules that I installed were minor and shouldn't have a big effect on my battery. Screen is also taking much more battery than it used to, even though I always keep my phone on the lowest brightness setting that Gravity Box allows. I'll post more screenshots tomorrow after my battery has drained more. Also, I have turned off location ever since I noticed my battery life decrease.
[Moto X General] :
Games like that destroy batteries.

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[Moto X General] jjl468:
Yes, but I've been playing the game ever since I got my phone and I've noticed a decrease in battery life with no difference in time spent playing the game. Anyways, here are those screenshots I promised.
[Moto X General] :
Don't really see an issue to be honest. 19 hours and 2 1/2 hours screen time (considering some of that was gaming) and at 32 percent left seems reasonable to me. Seriously ...games like that double your drain, easily, while they are running.

Haven't even got into what's active or not ...location services, GPS, Moto apps, sync, Facebook...etc.... also, what is dim screen to you? Lots of other factors.

Anyway....the built in battery stats are very limiting. Gsam from the playstore could provide much better insight. Maybe try that.

But again....I don't see a big problem. Without the gaming, I'd say you'd be looking at over 24 hours easy.....4 to 5 hours screen time, and again....don't know what you have active. :)

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[Moto X General] jjl468:
I actually have Gsam installed already, what pages would you like screenshots of? As for brightness, its set to the absolute lowest that Gravity Box allows (5 in brightness settings) I admit that these stats aren't bad, but they are still worse than what they were before (screenshot attached). Facebook is greenified and location/GPS is off completely. Active notifications and touchless control is on but I think that's it for Motorola services. Haven't changed anything for sync.

Edit: Also thought that I should mention that I had GPS on but location history/reporting off in the screenshot I posted. I turned off GPS after noticing a decrease in battery life.
[Moto X General] :
The big 4 Gsam screen shots to start with are the main screen. Then app sucker screen. Then use the drop down in app screen and do number of times waking device and kernel wakelock screens.

That's a good start. ;)

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BTW ...my best battery life was my first few days with it....after I loaded it up with my apps it decreased a little. Still very happy with my battery tho. Just saying.

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[Moto X General] jco23:
Your mobile network signal was spotty at best. Unfortunately, nothing you can do about that.
[Moto X General] jjl468:
Here you go. I haven't really changed many settings in Gsam except for getting rid of the notification icon, perhaps I should increase the time span in which it records battery statistics?
[Moto X General] :
I think signal draining battery life is a minimal issue. At my house I get one to two bars usually at best....and still get great battery life.

Honestly, I think poor signal isn't much of a battery drain. My s2 was so bad at home I had to go outside to make calls and even text sometimes ....yet I still got great battery life, for that phone anyway. ;)

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Perfect! But need a good long cycle to really see anything pop out. Keep in mind Gsam resets with a reboot....so charge up...and let the battery get low, trying not to reboot....and we'll see what is says then. ;)

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[Moto X General] jjl468:
Oh, I did not know that. Wake lock detector doesn't reset with reboot so I assumed that Gsam did the same so I restarted to update MinMinGuard. I'll be back tomorrow with more screenshots.
[Moto X General] :
Yeah....my ONLY complaint about Gsam. Lol

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BTW ...another user said snapchat caused him issues. Maybe it was only for him....but just remembered that. ;)

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[Moto X General] jco23:
Disagree. Lack of a strong Mobile data signal can be the biggest drainer.

This phone is a beast for me except in the casino, where I only get 1x.
[Moto X General] :
On pace for 30 hours and near 6 hours screen time. Notice my signal strength? Haven't really seen much better battery stats around here....and I'm in low signal most the time.

I've spent near entire charge cycles in town with great signal....and at home with low signal. No noticeable battery life difference. ;)

Lets agree to disagree. :) Personally I think its blown out of proportion ...I don't think it makes a big difference ...a small difference maybe...at best.

And I guarantee its no where near the biggest battery drainer. Not even in the top 10.

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[Moto X General] GBpfan95:
I seem to average around 12-13 hours with 3-4 hours of screen-on time. ART enabled, if that even really makes a difference.
[Moto X General] jhealy:
The biggest difference is being connected to Wi-Fi. This phone does so much better on Wi-Fi than cellular radio during use.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
idk if this still holds true but I do know a few years ago me and my friend had the same phone on different services. I think he was on tmobile and i was on verizon. When we were on an airplane neither of us turned airplane mode on and my phone was almost dead when we landed and his phone had drained like 10%. We did other similar testing and decided that verizon must be making the phone search super hard for a signal while the tmobile software was not searching as hard. I notice the posted that said signal didn't matter as much for him was on cellular or some service not verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if verizon phones search harder for signal than other services because thats what verizon "prides" itself on. But i also agree that when connected to wifi the phones don't drain close to as much in a bad signal area than they would if they weren't connected to wifi in that same bad signal area.
[Moto X General] jasoraso:
Or it is possible that you had apps/settings looking to sync, thus triggering the phone to search for signal.

I agree that poor signal quality can be a BIG drain on the battery, especially if you have lots of accounts set to sync/update regularly. If you aren't syncing much, poor signal quality won't be as big of a drain on the battery.
[Moto X General] vikramkhalsa:
This is what I get. maybe 16-18 hrs with 3.5 hrs screen time. on dalvik..
[Moto X General] :
That's true. I sync nothing.

Also....you guys all seem to be taking data only...and data vs wifi.

That's one scenario .....but also, your radio is always active and fighting for a signal...even on wifi. The graphs in battery stats shows the radio 24/7, in wifi or data. I'm more saying I don't think the "signal" strength alone affects the battery much. As with me....I've got weak signal most the time. Is it hurting my battery? Nope. Buuuuut....I'm not syncing anything.

However, with data on and many apps trying to sync...then sure battery will suffer when struggling for a signal. For sure!

My point....when people come here and say they are getting bad battery drain....and some reply that their poor signal is causing it. That alone is very vague and mostly untrue. But with a bunch of stuff syncing with data on...then yeah...that hurts the battery pretty good. But I'd still blame the syncs being on primarily. Syncing lots of stuff hurts the battery on data or wifi....compared to not syncing anything. And yeah....a weak signal on data will make it worse.

Anyway.....i was mostly objecting to the statement "weak signal is killing your battery." That's vague and not pointing people to the real issue. ;)

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[Moto X General] cannondale0815:
My battery life is great. Easily 24 hours, with everything turned on, such as GPS, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. All day long on mobile data, then on my Wi-Fi at home.
[Moto X General] hectorcde:
Well hello people i would like just to ask some things about the battery comparison or experience you're having.First at all, why everyone runs wifi on a top mobile phone. ??those mobiles are made with a incredible technology of 3G/4G LTE and people is running wifi on them. So why so much technology to run wifi. And in a battery comparison, of course you will get 4 or 5 hours of screen time running WIFI. I still didnt see any experience with the MOTO X with a full 3G or 4G/LTE day use.

Is there anyone with a full 3G use experience???

Xda is an international community for example. I am from South American and here there is no the posibility of having wifi all day long. And there are many people like me who can only use 3G all day long. And I still think is better, because for that we buy an expensive and ultimate technologic device.

Hope you dont take this as a complain or a bad thing, just want to improve the information here. Regards.
[Moto X General] :
Well, this isn't data on the whole charge cycle....but wifi was only on 14 of my 32 hours total....so that's 18 hours of data....in lowish signal strength ...with 5 hours screen time in a few minutes....and medium to low signal on data and when on wifi...since people are discussing that the last little bit.. ;)

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[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
in my post about different carriers causing different drain i was referencing the "fighting for battery life" aspect you just described. The person that quoted me after that talked about syncing apps being the cause but we were not on that airplane for longer than 5 hours and syncing wasn't the issue. My phone was looking for a signal and using excessive battery to try and find one while his was just waiting for a signal to find it (i guess is what im getting at). Phone companies can set their software up differently (might not be as true with themoto x because there is limited stuff changed by the service providers). The situation i was talking about before was like 3 years ago so things were a lot different. I was just throwing it out there thats its possible that one service provider makes their phones search for signal much harder than other phones thus causing higher battery drain.

Either way, signal has a great deal to do with drain with or without syncing apps. airplane mode was created for that very reason. And you can go and view many peoples stats that have excessive drain and their signal is extremely weak all day.

I was merely stating that it is possible that tmobile, cellular whatever,and other cell phone companies might have different battery drain depending on their signal. Especially since they use different technologies to talk to the towers, those technologies might require more power output from the phone to find a signal when it is weak than another service would. that last sentence is just speculation but plausible.
[Moto X General] :
I totally agree that searching for a signal when you have none is brutal, my s2 was like that here at home. And the battery took a pounding. But my x doesn't lose signal at home completely ...much better then the s2....but I'm still in low signal a lot....as my screen shots show....yet not very many post better battery times than me. So again....we'll have to agree to disagree about lower signals draining the battery, sync or no sync.

Searching for a signal....definitely ...no argument there. A lot of syncing on data with a low signal, no argument there either. But battery drain from a low signal just alone.....I can't buy it. ;)

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[Moto X General] jjl468:
Back with some more screenshots. My battery is still over half full, but I noticed an interesting wakelock in Gsam and some more interesting wakelocks in WLD. I've never seen these before, but then again I've only looked under wake triggers and CPU wakelocks in WLD in the past. Also, another thing that I forgot to mention is that I don't have a data plan so mobile data is completely off and all my internet access is via WiFi.