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[Moto X General] robstunner:
I must be the only one with totally garbage stats. Today again: 8hrs off charge with 55min screen time and 45min voice calls and I'm at 58% left. Google now off, location reporting off, greenify and any other attempt to help the phone hold battery. :(
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Have you checked for wake locks with better battery stats or gsam or something similar?

Sent from my HTC One mini
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Ya,nothing out of the ordinary
[Moto X General] RogerPodacter:
This idle drain is a big deal pet peeves for me. The chipsets, radios and hardware have been super optimized for many years now to the point that Itregularly lose 3% over 8 hours, usually its even better. This is a problem that likely has a fix in software. Or its due to the dedicated x8 chips, but I doubt that one. We need some full custom ROMs with extras removed to really do comparisons.
[Moto X General] aamir123:
you should consider a warranty exchange, may be a hardware issue if everyone else is getting great battery life and your not.
[Moto X General] DANIEL AMBRUSO:
Ok i will try it this week. I will again knock you after get any result. Thanks
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Installed Apps

3DMark

4oD

Adobe Reader

Amazon

Google Analytics

Ancestry

Argos

AVForums

BBC iPlayer

BBC News

BBC Weather

Bejeweled Blitz

Calculator

Candy Crush Saga

Compass

Debenhams

Google Drive

Dropbox

eBay

Facebook

Flightradar24 Free

Google Goggles

Gumtree

HSBC

Icelolly

inSSIDer

Interflora

ITV Player

Indeed Job Search

LateRooms

LG TV Remote

LinkedIn

Lottery Results

MX Player

Sainsburys Nectar

Odeon

MS Office Mobile

One Drive

PayByPhone

PayPal

Pets4Homes

Plex

Power Toggles

Quidco

Rightmove

Shazam

Skype

Smart Voice Recorder

SMS Backup & Restore

Spotify

Subway SUBCARD

Tapatalk

Three

Tinder

tmz.com

Trafford Centre

Google Translate

Travelzoo

Tripadvisor

trivago

tTorrent

Tunein Radio

TVCatchup

Twitter

TomTom UK & Ireland

Unit Converter

Vue

WDTV Remote

WhatsApp

Yell

Youtube

Zoopla

Disabled

Audio Effects

Gmail

Play Books

Play Games

Play Newsstand

Hangouts

Motorola Spotlight Player
[Moto X General] :
You would first want to check each on the play store and see when they were last updated. And read a few comments to see if there are battery comments.

A few members around here discovered that some apps that haven't had an update since kit kat was released were huge battery drainers. They got rid of those apps and battery life increased.

I don't remember the kit kat date tho.

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People have had battery issues with Skype I know.

You know, there's a guy selling codes to unlock your bootloader and then rooting is simple. A good investment for the future when official support ends and devs keep the x updated to latest and greatest. ;)

May not get the chance to unlock again.
[Moto X General] aamir123:
If skype is always logged in you can have problems, same thing with facebook. you may want to try installing better battery stats and see if whatsapp is keeping things up. Occasionally whatsapp acts up. Simply back up messages within the app then clear data, uninstall, and reinstall, then restore messages. That should fix that issue. Also update to latest versions, and that VUE app seems to have very bad reviews.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Battery at 2% but time awake at a staggering 6+ hours lol. At least it's not 15 hours.

Skype is not signed in. Not bothered about rooting as I'll end up selling this phone when it's successor is released.

VUE app removed completely.

Facebook completely uninstalled after clearing it's cache. I'll see how things look on the next charge without it installed as I can live without it for a couple of days.

WhatsApp cache cleared and app now re-installed. I can't live without WhatsApp so will need to keep it on.

I've got GSAM so no need for Better Battery Stats if they're both similar.

Every single app is fully up to date.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Below apps also removed as a test:

3DMark

Adobe Reader

Bejeweled Blitz

Candy Crush
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
My latest screenshot below with WiFi Scanning enabled.

Wake time high again as usual.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
It's probably Google services. I've seen it wake up my phone every 40 seconds on a previous discharge.

Look at your awake graph in Settings > Battery and see how frequently your phone gets woken up.

Edit: Also if you have Wi-Fi scan on, that may be holding your phone "awake".
[Moto X General] aamir123:
Held awake time is about 7 hours but its only using 1.5%, IMO your just wasting your time and giving yourself a headache for no reason. you already got 2 days of solid use and 1.5% will not give you a noticeable improvement. And you may have to disable some key features/services in order to achieve it.
[Moto X General] :
This wake time happens with location completely off??

But yes, as much as awake time would drive me nuts.... It usually comes with bad battery life. And your battery life is good! I wouldn't be overly concerned. ;)
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
You

need

to root your phone. All we're doing at this point is shooting in the dark. You obviously want more out of your phone (I have no problem with that), but we're getting nowhere with the information you are giving us. I bet you could see within an hour whats keeping your phone awake once you get root permissions and WLD.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I was told earlier in the thread that keeping WiFi scanning on could help battery life. I'll disable it then.

Location is set to Battery Saving mode.

I'm quite happy with the battery life and am just testing different settings to see how/if it affects the battery.
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
Google Play services has been pegging my battery the last two days. I get a wakelock every 45 or so seconds and it keeps Android OS very high. The only way to stop it was to change the Location settings from High Accuracy to GPS Only. Wakelocks are gone.
[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
You can thank the 4.4.x updates for that. ;)
[Moto X General] gerodive:
Sh!t.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I can now confirm that with WiFi Scanning turned off has definitely made my battery last longer and has slightly reduced my awake time.

As a test, I'm next going to try disabling Motorola Connect & Touchless Control to see how these affect the awake time.

I'll report back.
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
Last night. After a couple of time checks.
[Moto X General] :
Don't even need gsam to see your issue. Your signal is destroying your battery. Only Wi-Fi or airplane mode will help. ;)

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If it were me, I'd leave it plugged in in that environment.... That's a third option.
[Moto X General] ram130:
When you can... Try WiFi scanning again. Just to be sure.

- Ram
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Goddamnit. I hate you so much right now :crying:
[Moto X General] gerodive:
Well that's pretty awful. The nature of my work keeps me constantly moving (no plugging in possible) in spots with no WiFi and where 3/4G keep fading in and out, and I need to be responsive to my phone all day with internet accessible. What in the world are the options for a user like me?
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
Lmao. Sorry bro. When did you get your phone? I got mine back in February starting to wonder if newer have better life, cause I've gotten that kind of stand on stock as well.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
Just turn off mobile data. You will still receive calls and texts, just not have data. Simple solution and will work well in saving battery. Are you really on your phone constantly that you need a data connection? If so, look into a portable charger that you can your phone plugged into. Another option is to download one of those apps that shut your data off when the screen is off, an than comes back on when you turn your screen on.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
November 2013.
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
Makes me wonder with so many people battery life being all over the place if that's an issue, one cause my phone came 4.4. I really great battery right out the box.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Yeah mine came with 4.4 out of the box too and my battery life is pretty decent although I have silly awake times on it.

Also my phone lasts a good few hours when it reads 1% so the battery doesn't seem to be too accurately calibrated. It's been like this since I got it. I've tried both charging methods (charging whilst off and whilst on) and also have let the battery completely die before charging again fully.
[Moto X General] ghostt021:
I have crazy awake times myself before I turned off remote location
[Moto X General] ram130:
Let it die, charge while off, repeat again and every charge after keep doing them off. Try for a week or two, not just some days.

This basically fixed the 1% bug I had, and even when it happens it doesn't stay long.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
I've done this for over a week now but it's still there.
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
Draining the battery till shutoff and recharging is helping my battery tremendously! My battery was sitting on 1% forever so that's the reason why my phone would drain fast. Awesome.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I posted a few weeks ago with battery issues and I figured out that it was an app that was giving me issues (i think it was "cover", the lockscreen replacement). My battery life got back to normal and all of a sudden in the last few days, its gone terrible again. Will try to provide everything needed:
[Moto X General] DroidOnRoids:
I was stuck at 1% for like an hour when I Screenshot this. I actually reached 5 hours on screen time before my phone died.
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
How did you get that standby times? That is the only thing I need because really can't get below the 1.5% per hour drain and some days I'm a heavy user but others don't however I need to charge every day, are you rooted?

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[Moto X General] :
You pretty much have to turn a lot of conveniences off to get much lower than 1.5. If you have everything on, your probably getting average standby drain.
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
I have location reporting off, history of locations off, both options on android device manager off, GPS on high accuracy,scanning always WiFi off, I'm not rooted so I can't use greenify, anything more needs to be off?

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[Moto X General] :
It's tough when you're not rooted to see what's draining you, but gsam may still point to any issues better that stock battery screen. You could look at it.

Having location enabled will take a little or a lot of battery, depending on what apps are accessing it and how often. Try a night with it off. See what the drain is like then.

Many apps syncing all night can cause more drain.

Are you on Wi-Fi, data or airplane over night?

Anyway, I had some of the highest battery life times on my X that I've seen reported on XDA..... yet, I never got much better than 0.8 or 1% per hour drain. So there's some mystery involved as well. Different carriers maybe? Different routers on Wi-Fi. Who knows. I have up trying to lower my idle drain, since I'd still get about 30 hours a charge with over 6 hours screen time anyway. :)
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Overnight always WiFi, I will try turning off GPS and wait to see a little progress (maybe) I think its something about the kernel because I remember someone else having a different version of kernel and have a really low idle drain but the strange thing is both of us are on KitKat 4.4.2 stock anyway I leave here my version of kernel and see if that has a repercussions on the idle drain.

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[Moto X General] unsivil_audio:
That does bring up an interesting point. Now I'm curious if there was an app out there that could log Signal strength (in dbm) as well as what protocol and band are being utilitized (i.e. 700mhz/LTE, 1700mhz/HSPA+ etc etc).
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Well no change at all I'm stuck I'm the 1.5% curse hahaha all night with no GPS

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Use System Panel app to measure and monitor CPU activities over night.

This is how I found the Chrome background bug. Haha.
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Do I need the full version? Or just the lite version complete the task? And where I should look ?

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Full version to do monitoring. Keep in mind it's not so detail as it's mainly tracking CPU usage per app. And total them in a list. This how I also know that location reporting only affects battery life when your not home because its constantly using 0.6% CPU. Adding a 0.5/hr drain to stand by.

Don't know why Google can't see their own issues.

- Ram
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Can someone tell me why AudioMix partial wakelock is so high? I have read something about disabling touch sounds and lock screen sounds which are both already disabled, yet I still get this wakelock. I have just about had it with the battery life on this phone...
[Moto X General] rohitgarewal:
Man my battery life is less than optimal.

I notice high drains on idle (5% / hr) thanks to Google play services and google plus. This is Moto X specific, because I don't see the same drains coming from my Xperia Z1 Compact.

I've trained greenify, battery doctor, freezing certain services, and nothing helps. This is my second moto X is as many weeks - I really want to love this phone, but background battery drain is my pet peeve.

BTW, I keep location services and Goole Now on, because its a feature of android, and I don't want to lame duck the services of the OS. I ran kit kat on the HTC one M8, and it lasted me 36 hours - this is definitely moto x specific.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Your image is not showing. Also AudioMix means an audio using app isn't hibernating properly. I've even heard of cases where it's a game. Look up wakelock detector and see what apps are running wild.

Google services drain is not Moto X specific; there are tons of posts on lots of websites about it on almost every phone. It'll suddenly show up on my Moto X and destroy the battery life but sometimes I go days without seeing any Google Services drain. I have not seen a definitive way to fix this; I even tried removing the wakelock permission from play services via app ops.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Here are the pics, working.
[Moto X General] :
Its location services related I am sure. Depending on the apps users have installed, location will drain a little or a lot.

If you must use it 24/7, and have a lot of apps accessing it, you will pay a price with battery. That's how it is on any device I've owned anyway. So I toggle it when I need it only. And I've gotten the higher end of battery life on all my devices.

But, to each their own of course. People should really never be comparing battery life ....cause there's no accurate averages. Everyone's setup and usage is different.

Unfortunately, those that want all the bells and whistles running all the time, will see the lower end of the phones battery potential. Its just how it is.

But guys....screen shots from gsam or something more detailed than stock battery screen will get you more specific help to your situation. ;)
[Moto X General] ram130:
An example my phone. I have Google now and location on full blast and manage a idle drain of 1.4%-2%/hr while at work and 1%/hr at home.
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
Audiomix comes from touch sounds, probably from your keyboard, and has no high impact on battery.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
All touch sounds currently off... And yes it does have an impact in battery... It's destroying mine somehow :(
[Moto X General] paulo28c:
Check Wakelock Detector if it reports any app with audiomix wakelocks.
[Moto X General] Wutang200:
Disabling Motorola Connect and Touchless Control has made no difference to my awake times or battery life. Have now turned them back on.

Think I'll just leave it as it is now as I'm pretty happy with the battery life. It's much better than my Nexus 5 was anyway.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
It shows Google search as the number one, every time.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Really hoping someone can help me...GPS/Location off, Google Now off, touchless controls off...Basically everything (besides bluetooth) is off and wifi is on.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Goto Google settings app. Then. android device manager and disable the first option then reboot. Then goto settings and device ID and unlink. Then enable location and reboot.

- Ram
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Funny. Guess I thought I would actually get some help around here. I'll try elsewhere.

Thanks
[Moto X General] fajarlazuarding:
Wasn't that guy trying to help you? :confused:

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Having me disable remote factory reset, unlink my device ID and ENABLE location? Seems sketchy and not right...
[Moto X General] ram130:
Bugs in software. Triggering some things to fix others. I've been following and testing this issue for a while and I've even consulted with Moto team on hangouts. They have a bug fixing update pushing to soak this or next week. Not sure what it will fix.

Sorry.. I won't jump in again since you don't want to at least try. End result is enabling the previous settings anyways.

- Ram
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I am trying it...it just was very odd and I have never seen that suggested before, my fault.

Just a very weird fix it you are looking at it from the outside.

EDIT: Would it matter that I am not on latest OTA? I am still stuck on 4.4...
[Moto X General] :
There's an old saying my friend....if you don't like the answers, you shouldn't have asked the question. ;)

Ram is on the right track and knows his stuff....you can choose to do, or not do what he suggests.

Either way, respect is key on XDA. ?

Good luck!

Also.....if your signal is weak, especially when not on WiFi....or your screen is very bright....battery will drop. Quickly. Other than that, nothing obvious jumps out.
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
It's not bad. Would be better if it wasn't for nlpcollectorwakelock. Android is (and has always been) so retarded with GPS (poor implementation and because they want to sell your location data to advertisers). On ios it's so simple, just set permissions for each app. Google could do this to but they would lose money.

Stock ROM, rooted and heavily debloated. No Xposed, I hate that thing!
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Even though his suggestions do seem weird sometimes, [MENTION=2404483]ram130[/MENTION] is the expert when it comes to battery life, here and on the G+ community ;)
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Unfortunately for me, the tips provided didnt work :(
[Moto X General] ram130:
Good. Can you send a pic of location settings?
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Yes sir, and thanks for all your help...Sorry about earlier.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Odd. ...select battery saver instead of device only. Then send a pic of Android device Manager. Also is Google now on or off?

I think you may need the system panel app to check CPU activities. But guess we might be fine.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Alright, I will give this a shot for the day...
[Moto X General] abuttino:
enable location in device manager or just enable the master gps?
[Moto X General] tluley51:
This really sucks and is very frustrating. Should I just do a factory reset? only issue with that is, my TiBu doesnt recognize ANY apps for some reason...Oh, and I can't get into any type of recovery for some reason (stock or TWRP)...
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Turn location off completely and see if Nlp collector calms down.

You'll need to reboot, then set BBS to display from boot.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Testing 4.4.3. :)

Device manager.

You know I forgot I wrote this for Android OS:

https://plus.google.com/110686256095806218543/posts/YWMZtUpddD2
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Are you saying the next OTA is going to be 4.4.3???
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yes it will be. Read on http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-unlocked-moto-x-moto-g-and-moto-e-this-week/
[Moto X General] tluley51:
I will try this tomorrow. Today the test is Hangouts. Wakelock detector is showing it being woken up more than usual so I uninstalled updates and giving that a shot. Not sure if this is a possibility, but why not give it a shot ya know?

If I am still having issues, I will try the toggle location and reboot twice.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Good luck. Had hangouts keep the CPU active during day before. But it's inconsistent. So I'm not worried since I can track it when it happens.
[Moto X General] A2Trip:
Noticed that my phone got super hot on the charger through an extension cord. Once I put it straight into wall it stopped getting hot, weird.

Sent From My Motorola Flagship!
[Moto X General] :
I've experienced that on other devices. Old or cheap extension cords I'd bet.
[Moto X General] seanyuan62:
This guy. Unbelievable...

Why discourage people from trying to help you? Why would he have the intention of tricking a random person on XDA? Where is the benefit to him.

It is very common knowledge that Google often has problems with wakelocks from extensions or apps, etc. And yes, the first thing I do when I see weird battery problems is turn off remote locate and remote lock. Just like Find my iPhone it can sometimes lead to unnecessary battery drain. And the latest Hangouts is notorious for battery drain/unnecessary wakelocks. Another thing to disable (wakelock wise) is Google play services, but you need some type of app ops or wakelock blocker which depending on your ROM may or may not be available in the settings app or can be implemented through Google play or Xposed.

Finally, Greenify. Enough said.
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Well, "This guy." thought it was a bit weird when "This guy." stated that location was set to off...and some guy (ram) that I have never encountered before tells me to turn OFF remote locate and remote lock and turn ON location. How would turning ON location HELP battery life? It seemed sketchy so I stated that.

Now, someone like you should read the rest of the posts between ram and myself and we hashed things out and he is helping me and I am doing everything he is mentioning because I now trust him and I know what he is talking about. I apologized, we moved on. You should have read that before posting a hate post.

Oh and Greenify is being used. If you, again, read my posts, you will see that there are mentions of Greenify.
[Moto X General] seanyuan62:
I think the bottom half of my post was more help than hate. Don't know if you tried the wakelock blockers, etc. yet, but still helpful intentions.

And your post still shows the part that I'm upset about. Its not that you don't trust him yada yada I'm just trying to tell you that your opinion of his suggestion remains the same- you still think it is sketchy when he was just trying to help. Device only uses GPS to determine location. Battery saving uses mobile network. That is why it has battery saving potential.
[Moto X General] abuttino:
I tried it but no luck. I'll make sure to go from a full charge and see how Android OS is eating my battery. Odd thing is, nlp doesn't show in WLD
[Moto X General] tluley51:
Whatever, I don't need someone jumping into the party 3 days late without the right facts to tell me I am wrong. I apologized for what I did and we moved on, yet you still bring it up. Kinda funny if you ask me...

Anyways, I uninstalled updates to Hangouts and froze the update and holy crap the difference...

It just makes me angry because I didn't do anything or change anything for this to happen...Hangouts didn't even have an update and it just wigged out and start killing my phone. I may try to take the newest update from yesterday, but I want to give it a few days first.
[Moto X General] seanyuan62:
Glad battery looks improved for you! Have you tried Greenify? Usually Facebook and other battery hoggers can be controlled with that.