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[Moto X General] FSXv13:
Bingo. It will cost about 20 dollars I think, it's exactly 1 lbs when packed.

My battery is acting even more strange, last night sealed the deal for me. If you look at the attached screen shot the green line literally "breaks" and it drops almost 10 percent instantly, and then when I charge back up you can see it goes from approximately 80% to full.

Ugh.

I was going to pull the trigger on the verizon upgrade today but I like the developer edition color too much now and I want the extra 16GB, yeah, I'm crazy.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
so i have read somewhere else (i think...) that the phone actually needs to be fully charged the first time you get it. Not so that the battery will last the longest because the new batteries don't require such a thing. But someone called motorola and they said that the phone is doing so much when you first get it that if you don't fully charge the battery it could screw up the batteries calibration stuff or something like that. You can try recalibrating your battery with an app or something but I haven't seen anyway say they have tried that and it worked, but no one said they tried it and it didn't work either that I have seen. best of luck.
[Moto X General] MajorTankz:
The line breaks if your phone reboots and reports a drop in battery percentage. It happens with every phone.
[Moto X General] ram130:
I'm worried.
[Moto X General] absolutz23:
Just sharing my batterylife.

So far happy with it. Not so much gaming.

Hope this is normal.
[Moto X General] FSXv13:
I did charge it fully when I got it. It's in a box being returned now.

New one arrives Monday and I will charge it to full before powering it on.
[Moto X General] ram130:
I'm guessing no one else tried the Android OS fix? Or no update on standby drain?
[Moto X General] MajorTankz:
You mean the one involving freezing a few of the System apps? I would love to try but I'm on stock and don't feel like messing around with my current setup without TB.
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
No i think its the velvet.apk thing.
[Moto X General] ap3604:
Just curious since I went through the last 10 pages of the thread without finding a definitive answer.

If I were to...

- turn off bluetooth / wifi

- live in a good signal area

- have auto-brightness on

- not play any hardcore games

- not stream over cellular

... what would be an average

SCREEN ON TIME

I could expect for the MotoX?

I'm guessing in the range of 3 - 5 hours but that is a big range so I wanted MotoX owners opinions on it.
[Moto X General] eeshlikhith:
4-5+
[Moto X General] ram130:
I'm on stock too. I manage to reduce it. But that's about it. I guess this is dead until an update comes out.
[Moto X General] infinit22:
I am noticing much less idle drain over night after the Verizon update. Only losing 2-3% now compared to 16-20%
[Moto X General] emerica243:
If you look back in the page 60's i managed to get it to drain between 0.0 and 0.1% an hr over a time of 8 hours.
[Moto X General] ac007:
I thought that this device will be my must have to buy. Wonderfull, impressed and absolutely the winner if we compare with any other smartphone in the world. Of course if we talk about battery life strength.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Yeah I remember. But only had seem like you and another got it that way. No one else seems to have tried.

You only disable Google search right?
[Moto X General] cicciogt1:
Nexus 4 aokp rom max 7 ore

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Moto X General] tjohnstone3:
I tried doing the steps but am not seeing the same results. I'm the one who removed the velvet.apk and was still able to get touchless controls to function properly. But i'm still seeing significant idle drain.

But i'm also running in a rom slot on safestrap running the safestrap verizon rom in the development forum. So it could be that it doesn't work w/ that rom.

If i get some free time i might try making a backup and attempting those steps from stock but not sure when that will be.
[Moto X General] emerica243:
Go into google settings, turn off Remotely locate this device. Also make sure the Android Device Manager and Motorola Manager are disabled in Device Administrators.

Use titanium and freeze Google Play Services and Google Search. Then check system/app to verify they are gone. Reboot, reinstall Google Search from market. Then launch it, you should see a notification requesting Google Play Services from market, install it. Reboot, drain your phone for the day, recharge, test your idle drain during the night.
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
so after remove velvet.apk "ok google now" is not working 100% right?
[Moto X General] codygs83:
Where is device administrators at??
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Doing this, Ok Google Now still working as well than ever or something changes?

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i tested mine the other day and it charged from 80 to 100% instantly too but it drops from 100 to 80 normally so I don't really mind. Might just be a reporting issue. I figured I'd wait until kit kat comes out to return the phone under manufactureres warranty in case its a reporting thing and not a hardware thing.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
Mine easily hits 18-24 hours
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
I was going to try this at some point once I installed SS but I haven't installed SS yet. I also was thinking that something had to be really weird since you lost virtually nothing and at one point your battery actually showed it gained battery at night lol. Once I finally install SS and get it all running then Ill give it a try. I'm also interested in this jumping from 80% to 100% while charging thing. I didn't notice it until I finally decided to check mine and it does it as well. I read some places that phones in general charge from 0 to 80% at faster rates then start to trickle once they hit 80%. Then after they get to 100% they actually show 100% even though they are no longer charging until they get down to 90% (real battery percentage) then it begins charging again until it hits 100% (during that time the phone constantly shows 100%). This isn't specifically for the moto x and might not be on it at all, I just read some stuff up on phone batteries.
[Moto X General] juancaperez2000:
Are u tweaking something?
[Moto X General] codygs83:
I personally have under clocked the CPU to 1.2ghz and am running ondemand governor instead of interactive.

Sadly this has made very little impact on my idle drain issue.

I've even tested overnight with Google services and search uninstalled. Instead of a 10-12% drain in 6 hours it gave me a 7% drain. Still unacceptable.

I am however running the tmo for vzw safestrap ROM in the stock slot. May restore stock and do more testing.

I'm personally thinking mine won't be fixed till 4.4
[Moto X General] BaconDrips:
very satisfied with this battery.
[Moto X General] AndreaCristiano:
no not at all my phone is out of the box stock i go home every night at 10pm from work after removing the phone from the charger at 1030 am the lowest i have ever seen on my phone was 49%
[Moto X General] FSXv13:
My new phone arrives today...

Am I charging this thing to 100% before I ever turn it on? I turned it on and then charged to 100% last time.

I'm actually feeling like I should charge it and leave it for a few hours.
[Moto X General] shadowfist23:
"Mediaserver" is devouring all my battery. This thread suggests that searching for and removing all m4a files might fix it, which I'm trying - interestingly the only one I found was a facebook popup tone in /storage/emulated/0/media/audio/notifications
[Moto X General] RorixRebel:
Sad day today
[Moto X General] codygs83:
^ That's ho-riffic ^
[Moto X General] M973:
seems good so far
[Moto X General] ram130:
Same sad day for me too.
[Moto X General] boardrx182:
Great battery life - Verizon Moto X

I was testing my battery yesterday and today and was able to get about 25 hours of uptime and about 6.5 hours of screen on time. It's pretty ridiculous, coming from a Galaxy Nexus. Granted, I was on WiFi almost the whole time but I have to say I expect the battery to last me, at minimum, 16-18 hours with moderate to heavy use. Plenty to get me through a day. I had considered the Droid Maxx but no longer think I need that much battery, Moto X is better than good!
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Why are most of these battery tests done on wifi? Even the GNex can do reasonably well on wifi. After SOT, mobile data is the real killer.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
i do agree it is hard to tell what is really going on when people are on wifi then data then using it differently all day. For instance, a few posts ago some put up pics and someone replied with that's horrific. But something was weird with those stats. He was using spotify on a mobile network for a decently long time and we don't know what his signal was like. If he was on spotify for 2.5 hours and his screen just happened to be on for an hour and a half and was in bad signal then i would expect that high of battery drain. The post after that with pics also had terrible battery life but it looks like he was in almost a one bar location all days with over 2 hours of screen time. That drains the hell out of anything.

On the other hand, I think wifi tests are important as well because some phones drain a lot on wifi. For instance, Moto x drains a ton with certain routers because its constantly reconnecting. Also, if you cant get a good wifi signal sometimes that can drain battery pretty bad because its constantly re connecting without you knowing. So getting wifi tests also helps determine battery life because in todays world, you are near wifi spots pretty much all day depending on your job. But if you are on comcast, you now have access to hotspots throughout the city for free even you are working construction or something.

Bottom line is that this phone has good battery life for most people. On or off wifi. It surpasses most phones especially considering its ability to be running processors constantly throughout the day. quite a feat IMHO.
[Moto X General] ram130:
I was in my apartment for an hour and the drain isn't usually bad while on LTE with moderate signal. I left with 97% left. Check the graph. Once I got to work I had awesome signal and had 80% left because I used my phone. For the rest of the day I was on and off because it was busy. Usually during light days I'd be on it alot, streaming music, replying to stuff and get 4hr screen on time after 7-8hrs. Frankly I have the pics too.

So for some weird reason this day was different. Really weird.

---------- Post added at 09:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 AM ----------

As for you. Streaming music on HSPA will drain your battery fast. It's better and more efficient on LTE. Also not sure what else you were doing.
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
I have come across the same issue where things randomly just drain really bad one day or randomly at night my idle drain decreases drastically. There are so many things the phone could be doing or maybe google made some error on their end that caused the phone to go crazy for a while. IDK, there are just too many variables to try and figure everything out. Maybe spotify screwed up that day. Maybe something ran into an error that repeated itself all day until you left your work. Maybe routers got screwy that day. Maybe terrorists tried to hijack your phone remotely lol. Technology is screwy and without looking at logs (which im not equipped to diagnose) it is pretty difficult to ever narrow anything down when it is that random.
[Moto X General] chaoslimits:
Agreed; Wifi tests are necessary but they skew the battery life reports/ratings for the X. I get 1bar LTE or 2 bars 3G at work and there's no way I'd expect to see 3+ hrs of SOT and a huge stand-by time (I don't have the X yet; waiting on Moto Maker).
[Moto X General] Garuxa:
My battery usage

All time: Wifi - Auto Sync - Auto Brightness

I am very impressed :)

Cheers!

Enviado desde mi Moto X
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Battery guru really get good results been active? Or is just placebo effect?

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] Garuxa:
I could not give you an answer yet, since I have installed it just 2 days ago and still in learning mode. Once the app. completes learning, I will make a new measurement of the lifetime of the battery.

Cheers! :)
[Moto X General] hermeshhn:
Yeah Im too in learning mode I hope a better battery life on standby :beer:

Enviado desde mi XT1058 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
This might be my best yet. 17.5 hrs on battery. 45 min voice calls. 6.5 hrs screen time. Still with 17% left.
[Moto X General] showstopper03:
Lol i can't figure out why voice calls use so much battery. Anyone else seeing this?
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Yep, very much so.

Though with my HTC One GE after the 4.3 update Android OS was very high too but battery life (including idle drain) was great. So I am not sure what's going on here.
[Moto X General] rman18:
Second full day:

33% Left

14 hours off charger

4h 20 minutes of Screen time

No battery saving apps... WiFi 70% of the day, some blutooth audio, some GPS. Mostly web browsing.

I could easily get 6h screen time with this usage. Curious to see how I do on 4g all day at work Tuesday.
[Moto X General] clovis_ll:
my battery life is pretty good! its better than my htc one and i barely put the phone down eversince i bought it lol
[Moto X General] jmcharles:
First day on a full charge! This includes about an hour of play music streaming, an hour of tethering to download a movie to my Nexus 10, and a half hour of talk time.
[Moto X General] geoff5093:
Can't believe how often your phones have their screen on during the day, I'm lucky to break an hour of on screen time each day.
[Moto X General] statimoccidio:
?

On my Nexus 4 I used to lose about 5% of battery overnight. On my Moto X I am losing 10-15% overnight and it says android os is the top battery user. Is this common?
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
Certainly don't think so, the idle drain on this is surprisingly high (though regular battery drain during use seems fine).

Could be attributed to Touchless Control + Active Notifications but that still seems high given it's not waking up the main processor.
[Moto X General] musmos:
You barely have a signal. Signal strenght have a lot of impact to battery.
[Moto X General] imstill@g:
Just to run a test (no moto x on hand yet) but I would suggest you toggle the LTE (if that's possible).
[Moto X General] statimoccidio:
I don't think there is a way to toggle LTE and I don't get it where I live so it isn't on it anyway.
[Moto X General] krypticos:
My second full charge with light usage. WiFi 97% of the time. Some YouTube, about 30 min of an adventure time game and texting and web browsing and browsing xda app no battery saving stuff running.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
This. Even on WiFi with touchless control and active notifications turned off I am losing 10% overnight, which is about twice as much as my HTC one or gs4. High android OS seems to be the issue. I notice it in almost every screen shot posted here and have seen several people now comment on it.

BTW I also have Google now disabled so that's not the culprit either.

Sent from my XT1058
[Moto X General] Hardcore73:
I leave everything on and only lose about 5 percent in 8 hours overnight. But I also have phone in sleep mode so no notifications will show up.
[Moto X General] iamjasonc:
Stop sleeping so long you won't lose as much xD
[Moto X General] :
If the settings are like stock android you can turn off lte. Well if you are on big reds network that is. Settings>wireless & networks>more...>mobile networks>network mode>select CDMA only.
[Moto X General] bsinc1962:
3rd full charge with everything on; WiFi, Bluetooth, active notifications, touchless controls, auto-brightness, Corporate email on 15 minute delay, played alot of Words with friends, twitter, texts, web etc.

I like it, finally a phone that I feel like I can trust to make it through the day.
[Moto X General] rman18:
Yesterday, I didn't use my phone much because I was busy with life... At 11PM I had 59% of the battery remaining after being off the charger and 2 hours screen time.

It was such a hard decision if I should charge it over night or not. I didnt, I got to work this morning with 42% battery life after playing with it all morning. I'm charging it now, just to ease my mind.
[Moto X General] herzzreh:
For previous One users... How does the screen on time compare?
[Moto X General] statimoccidio:
I am on AT&T and there is no option to turn off LTE.

I am going to not charge my phone all day today and see how it goes. So far I am at 84% after 4 hours on battery with 3 bars of LTE and a solid wifi connection with 26 mins of screen on time. Android OS and Screen each account for 32% of the drain.
[Moto X General] Garuxa:
Nice!

What brightness setting, synchronization and data you used?

Cheers!

Enviado desde mi Moto X
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Brightness is on auto, I have 2 email accts that are set to check for mail every 15 min, GPS off unless I use it, and I had great LTE signal for pretty much the entire time. I might have been on wifi for an hour or so.

Side note- anybody ever stop to think that if we are getting 6-7 hours screen time in a normal day that we just might be looking at our phones a little (read: a LOT) too much? I usually have 2.5 hrs screen time at the end of the work day, if my boss knew that I'd probably get fired! haha
[Moto X General] 1454:
Meh, I think it's more common than you think. Plus, if you are salary it doesn't truly matter as you are probably paid based on production basis vs. Hours worked. I think most bosses look at it as if you get the job done your good.
[Moto X General] rmead01:
yeah but from the company's point of view, imagine what my employee could be doing with the extra hours if he was applying himself. It all works both ways.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Salary? What's that? Lol
[Moto X General] banboy:
so bottom line, is it true that the ads told us it can achieve 24 hours with all setting on the phone is turn on ? bluetooth on, gps on, sync on, brightness 100% ?

please I need your humble opinion guys,

how long is your xt1058 and xt1053 battery can last if you guys turn it on all of them, bluetooth,gps ,sync, brightness 100%. ?
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
It easily lasts 24 hours. I've gone 2 full days on a charge with everything on and still had 4 hrs screen time. I keep my phone on auto brightness though.
[Moto X General] theraffman:
The problem is that there are so many factors. One person may only have 1 hour sot and the next may have 5... One person may have 5 bars LTE and the other may have 1... One person may not be using social media apps that constantly push Data and notifications, the other may be... Etc... My point being, there are too many factors in that dictate overall battery life that will differ from user to user. That being said, of all the phones I've owned iPhone 2,3,3g,4 Samsung infuse, sgs2,sgs3, HTC vivid... This is the only phone that has consistently given me a full days life, not only that, but left me with 20-30% battery left. My average is 4 hours sot... My sgs3 was the next closest to this type of life and I'd have to plug it in around 5pm, or in my truck through out the day.
[Moto X General] banboy:
Hi raff, I've sent msg to you before, anyway I just purchased my moto x, My God, I love it and I almost got iphone 5s but when I start messing around with moto x I felt in love already and the battery is superb, and I hope I don't get paranoid with the battery thing since lot's of people get a variety result from their device with a different location and usage.

but bottom line from all the phone that you've owned, this phone bring most stable battery, am I correct ?

and if I may ask, what is your setting for daily use ? everything on ? bluetooth, gps, brightness 100 , and sync on ? keyboard vibrate when type and keyboard sound on ?

one last thing, so I'm confuse when people said they got 5 hours screen on time, is that mean they got 5 hours nonstop using they phone or what ? please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Moto X General] banboy:
mine is pretty much the same with yours. so what's that mean by the 8hrs on the battery ? only last for 8 hours if the display always turn on ?
[Moto X General] RorixRebel:
It means i shouldn't be streaming from Spotify for 4 hours while on weak hspa signal.

I do get good battery life using local media, hell i got 32gb of storage, better use it.

I noticed that all of my ****ty battery days are related to the strength of the signal so i just force 2g since I don't quite get too many notifications.
[Moto X General] banboy:
So you mean the phone battery status can always change to 8hrs or it also can be 14h like that depend on the location where we are ?
[Moto X General] RorixRebel:
Depends on several things.

Location, use, settings, etc but yah if i really wanted to last a full day with my regular use i could achieve that with minor tweaks.
[Moto X General] MajorTankz:
JuiceDefender is proving once again that eliminating weak data signal decreases my idle drain and makes it pretty much constant.
[Moto X General] Coderedpl:
I'm on Verizon.

For some reason my phone does not go to deep sleep AT ALL, and I mean time of 0. I do remember seeing NLP wakelock in the hours not minutes.

I do not have Google now setup.

My plan of attack is as follows:

Disable location reporting and history in Google settings and make sure it's off in certain apps and see what happens.

If that doesn't help I'm considering following the process of RSD lite and maybe even doing the camera update.

Must be an app or something as stock the phone was great.

Disable location reporting and history, and greenify maps and few other apps as well as freeze some stuff.
[Moto X General] theraffman:
Hey bud! I remember you asking a few weeks back. Glad you got the moto x and that your happy. It's definitely a superb device.

Yes, of all the phone I've owned, this has had the best battery life, hands down.

My brightness is set to auto, but my screen general stays near 80% GPS and BT is only on when I'm on the road usually about half the day. Wi-Fi only on when I'm at home, about half the day. I have a taker set up to disable mobile data when Wi-Fi is connected... Not sure if it helps though.

I have sync on. G+, gmail is set to push and two emails are on a 10 minute poll, I use k9 email client.

About 1-2 hours talking.

Generally end the day with 20% battery.

I also steam about an hour of music over Google play music each day.

Screen on time (sot) refers to the cumulative time that the screen is on during a discharge cycle. That can be all in one sitting, say 5 hours straight or in increments... Like 1 hour here, then 30 minutes there etc...
[Moto X General] banboy:
yeah thx haff I appreciated your help that time and also so pretty much you only turn it on when you need it and not the whole day, right ?

and also would that be fine to charge the phone if the phone is 40% and unplug it when it's 85% ?(I'm talking doing this frequently ...) is that gonna shorten the smartphone battery life ? or is it always have to be 5% then charge it ? and my biggest issue, let say if the phone 5% around 11pm, and what do guys usually do that time ? charge it and just leave it like that till morning ? it will be fully charge in 2 hours and then the rest 4-5 hours is the charger adapter will keep charging the phone even the phone it's fully charged ?

sorry I just don't wanna destroy my new phone hopefully you guys understand with this.