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[Moto X General] :
More people don't have an issue with android OS than do. If its a bug, its random....not everyone. Still, mine was high. But I run with most services off. Like location, only sync Gmail and calendar. And since I shut all than down my android os runs around 7 percentish. Give or take a few.

Anyway, just saying that a lot of people HAD issues, but not too many talk about it now, not like before.

Also, if your battery life is pretty good, it isn't issue whatever percent it comes in at. If your battery is bad, then yeah....might be an issue.

The more services you run, including location stuff that apps use....any apps, the higher android os goes.

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[Moto X General] ref1ux:
I've got:

Settings

Facebook

FB Messenger

Whatsapp

com.qualcomm.qualco..

com.qualcomm.atfwd

Motorola Services

Audio Effects

Motorola Spotlight Player

Media

Google Services x2

Camera

MotoCare

Google Keyboard

Active Display

Motorola Connect

I don't need most of that running and I'll try disabling some, but I get the impression from a lot of forum surfing that this is something to with Kitkat: http://www.androidcentral.com/googl...cpu-usage-bug-fix-coming-next-android-release as the Moto X also uses a Qualcomm chip. We will see...
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
There doesn't seem to be anything rogue running...

Do u actually have an idle battery drain problem or is it just that you're seeing Android OS at the top? Because it is normal to see it at the top without actually having an idle battery drain problem.

How long is ur phone lasting on battery?
[Moto X General] ref1ux:
Down from 100% to 80% in 4 hours, with just a few photos and some Facebook. Screen time 30 mins. Battery life seems no better than my Nexus 5, which is what confuses me because I've heard it should be much better.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
That's around 5% per hour, it is a lot... My idle battery drain is 2-3% per hour and it lasts around 32-34 hrs with 2 hrs SOT.
[Moto X General] ref1ux:
Yeah there's definitely something strange going on. I hope I can fix it or it gets fixed soon!
[Moto X General] jayboyyyy:
just thought id mention that my android os use is at 34.7% right now.

google play services has woken my device up 1943 times and held it awake for an hour 5 minutes.

android os held phone awake for 48 mins and woke it up 385 times.

i am running eclipse 3.2.2 with greenify. all location stuff turned on and all moto stuff turned on.

30 minutes talk time. 30 minutes pandora. mostly on wifi. 2.8% per hour discharge. held awake total of 3 hours 47 minutes.

SOT 2 hours 52 miinutes.

at 15% right now with 1 day 7 hours on the battery.
[Moto X General] ref1ux:
Just lost 30% in five hours... Screen on time is 25min. Android OS hates me.
[Moto X General] jco23:
Folks need to realize that strength of cell signal and mobile data play a significant factor.

As for me, I leave everything enabled except for GPS.

Also, I've noticed that when I'm home in my WiFi, I get better battery life.

My battery life is very acceptable.
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
I don't like my battery life it shouldn't impact that WiFi is on all time but it might be
[Moto X General] :
You have a lot of wake locks, and a lot of GPS usage. And a good amount of screen time.....

You'd need gsam., my choice, to see what's keeping your phone awake.

And turn off location services for a day and see what happens.

Are you purposely using GPS that much? Its killing your battery too.
[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
I was using my phone constantly today GPS maps calls texts. But I think it should at least last me for a good 11 or 12 hrs. With the usage.

GPS is always on as well as WiFi always searching on too.
[Moto X General] :
No, using maps and GPS kills your battery fast....any phone. I'd say you you'd never hit 12 hours with that kind of usage.....according to the battery graph you posted.

Some car chargers can't even keep up to navigating, and your battery drops even while charging. Lol

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[Moto X General] sorullo_xgrx:
I have notice that too about navigation and charging in the car. I'll have to switch my locations settings to low instead of high lol
[Moto X General] :
Actual navigation will chew up your battery, huge, no matter what you do. These are phones....not stand alone gps's. ;)

So I doubt you have any "issues"....its just your usage.

Solution ....don't leave home without a charger. :)

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[Moto X General] conquesoextra:
Everyone whit battery drain issues: Please root, just root your phone and greenify all that you can.

Problem solved.

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[Moto X General] Jamolah:
The point is as a consumer I shouldn't have to do that. It should be fixed and the source.
[Moto X General] ch121s:
I don't understand the big deal with some of these posts....I just got mine and I'm coming from a Razr HD that had a bigger battery. The battery life seems comparable if not better (& it certainly is faster). Its only 2200mAh (I believe?), what the heck do you expect out of it? Did we forget how bad the early 4G phones did w/ Battery life? (*cough* thunderbolt *cough*) ;)

I know its newer so it should be better (blah...blah). I just think some perspective on the phone (and...its price) should be exercised. We have a great optimized, (relatively) cheap phone, can't ask for much more IMO.
[Moto X General] ram130:
This is too insane. :)

Read the post: https://plus.google.com/100343853886772423334/posts/JnxbnfhHbh4

- Ram
[Moto X General] :
11 plus hours of screen and hardly anything else using the battery. My guess is he just kept the screen on, dim, and let it sit there. Most of the time anyway.

Very doable in that scenario. ;)

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Very steady drop on the chart. That's exactly what they did. LOL

I got 7 hours 44 minutes of actual use once....mostly all just tapatalk use......so 11plus not using the phone seems about right.

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I recently had... I recently caused an issue (at least I think it was my fault) that convinced me to wipe my phone. Since then I've been running mostly the stock stuff. I've only installed the bare necessities. Few banking apps, 4 emails on synch including one exchange email. I don't even have battery tracking apps other than gsam and that's just for the notification. I've only disabled G+ and hangouts Here is my usage so far.

This to me proves that Motorola has done a great job with the battery life and drain on this phone. The issues some are seeing are the results of actions taken by the user since unboxing the phone.

Most of us are guilty of it, installing apps that we barely use and they sit their wasting resources. Before you point fingers at Motorola look at all the apps on your phone, see how many of them haven't been updated for/since kit kat. Then you'll understand why battery life on 4.2.2 may have been better than 4.4.2. As for me, I've gotten rid of unnecessary bs. My battery life has never been better and I probably won't even bother with Greenify if I can maintain this.

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[Moto X General] :
Awesome!

I think one thing people don't take into account, is apps that access location services. Many do, that really shouldn't even.....and what happens? The app doesn't show up as a battery hog....android os takes the heat. LOL. Cause that location services activity raise android OS's battery usage, not the offending app. ;)

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
That was one of the main things I did during my app ops /disable phase. Anything I couldn't justify needing my location got turned off. Not to mention my GPS is only on when I need it. As far as I'm concerned if GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi were supposed to be always on, they wouldn't have an off switch.

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[Moto X General] :
Totally agree. I gladly turn everything off and on when I need it. Well, my wife does now on my X......why waste battery life just to save a couple clicks.

Tho many seem outraged at the thought of manually doing this. LOL

And that's 24 hours plus and 5 hours plus of screen time, vs almost half that in some cases, keeping it all on 24/7. ;)

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Yeah, how dare we consider pushing buttons on our smart phones to use features. That's like having to push buttons to turn on TVs and use switches for lights... So 1900's

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[Moto X General] :
I do understand the want to just set it and forget it.....but people gotta realize battery will suffer. ;)

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[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
Hey guys, for those of you experiencing very high Android OS usage, are you using the Google Now Launcher? I uninstalled it and used the stock launcher and I have very minimal Android OS usage with very similar usage.

I also noticed that Google Now Launcher fires up the GPS at random times for no apparent reason.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
Unplugged my phone yesterday morning and this is till now. Screen on time is 2.5 hours. This is with probably 90% WiFi which helps a lot. Over night, about 9 hours I lost 5% which is good to me.
[Moto X General] MikeyMike01:
My first day or so with the phone, and I'm quite happy. Almost 4.5 hours screen time and well over a day of battery life total. Not to mention, I've got all the bells and whistles enabled.

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[Moto X General] tu3218:
Hmm now same length of battery time as my phone that I've been using for 2 months, yet you have twice the on screen time. Makes me want to try factory reset and slowly all apps one at a time an see what's hurting me. I thought mine was good till I saw yours. I have everything enabled to as far as the features. Unless me having Bluetooth on made the difference.
[Moto X General] :
A great idea! ;)

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[Moto X General] ram130:
Really is. Insane. But... All the stuff he had to disable tho. Got most of it disabled. But not much of a difference.

- Ram
[Moto X General] tu3218:
It is but actually all the apps I have installed, I use daily. So unless it would help clear out some stuff from getting firmware updates, not sure it would even do anything.

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Do you guys leave WiFi on all the time? Meaning like when the phone sleeps, do you have it set to turn off or do you have WiFi always on? Wonder what option would result in better battery life.
[Moto X General] :
Mine is always on, except when I'm away from it, then I toggle it off. And its on when phone sleeps. I've never found it to affect the battery one way or the other. But that's just me.

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Just so you see how it ended

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[Moto X General] :
Nice! ;)

What's the 3 hours+ held awake time? Some music? If not, that's pretty high.

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Mostly music yeah

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[Moto X General] :
Ah! ;)

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Yeah I stream music to my car whenever I drive. Which only furthers my point considering the battery life I get. There's gotta be ancient apps or non kit kat optimized that are killing the battery of other users. It doesn't help that all the garbage is labeled android os

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[Moto X General] southern87:
I have had my moto X for about 2 weeks now. I use to have a HTC One(till the wall won the war between them). If I got 10 hrs with it having 2.5 hrs of screen time, I was ecstatic. I OTA'd my phone to 4.4 from 4.2.2(shipped version) then downgraded and rooted up to 4.4. I at first had trouble getting past 8-9 hrs with 3 hrs of screen time. Though I contribute setting up and reorganizing my cloud storage at the time to kill it. Since then I got little better, but I used 2 batter monitor apps to weed out useless things I didn't use or change some settings. Today I am sitting at 14 hrs with 3 hrs of screen on time and only down to 33%. My usage on mostly Google play news stand, Chome, and Facebook, and steaming Pandora maybe 1 hr a day on average.
[Moto X General] ram130:
And it doesn't make sense the Nexus 5 Android OS is around 3-5% or basically 4 min CPU time after 4hrs with similar apps. Something is wrong on the X. Just don't know what.
[Moto X General] ref1ux:
I am, I'll uninstall GN Launcher and see if things improve at all. Android OS is totally killing my battery life and has been all weekend. Very frustrating. The same app setup on an N5 doesn't have the same problem.
[Moto X General] :
My N5 is always under 10 percent....usually about 5, like you said, for android OS. Almost all services off....as I usually do with all my devices.

My wife's X is usually around 10 percent android OS....after a full day. Again, most things off. The only difference between what's running on my N5 and X, are active notification and touchless control on the x.

They must add to android OS as well. Haven't tried the X with those disabled lately....the wife would kill me. Lol

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I had a Nexus 5 before I got the X. Then I got the X. I had them both at once for about a month. I kept the Moto X cause it's battery life was more consistently better, but my benchmark times were better on the Nexus5, but some days it would just die unexpectedly.

The MotoX features were better. I also like the MotoX screen better. Like my previous pics show, android OS use can be minuscule.

The native standby drain on the Nexus5 was wonderful. My first night I lost 3% while I slept. Never got close on any other phone.

Both my phones were damn near identical with apps, even had the same emails sync to both. Ultimately the MotoX won the war for me, but I do think about getting another Nexus5. I'm currently reading up on CM for the note 3, might be my next move once they fix some bugs

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[Moto X General] :
Standby drain on my N5 is 0.3 per hour, not in airplane mode. I never got much below 1% per hour on my X....tho overall....it still had slightly better battery battery life than my N5.

But I still say the x is a better phone overall. Period. But I missed all the flashing fun! LOL. So when my wife wanted an x to finally replace her iPhone 4s.....I decided after much thought to give her my x and get the N5. I will say, after things I read about poor quality and bad battery and lousy signal strength in the N5 forums.....I found all that to be wrong. For me anyway. I'm quite pleased. ;)

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[Moto X General] southern87:
Android os and Android system report separately.
[Moto X General] Soldier 2.0:
I'm pretty sure GN Launcher is the cause for the high Android OS usage. Mine has dropped significantly and I decided not to go back to that launcher. I'm not using Google Now unless I go in a trip away from state, etc.

Do you also have Tumblr? I have noticed it keeps my device awake constantly.

Edit, I uninstalled the launcher and updates to Google Search then updated it fresh JIC. I know there is a way to select your launcher from the settings menu, but I decided to uninstall it.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
For the non believers...

This us 4.4.2 after a fresh wipe with minimal app installs. Stock kernel too. No Greenify etc.

I'm going to see how long I can keep this up by only using/installing apps that have been updated since kit kat. Technically I should get rid of this xda app, it barely works right as it is...

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[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I forgot the most important shot.

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[Moto X General] rmead01:
same. not a huge fan of exposed, but currently using it for the motoexposed options. While I didn't like the default stuff, it's just a touch better without it visually.
[Moto X General] FerraraZ:
I know I've come on this thread and *****ed about battery life. Just want to say I recently rooted and installed greenify to nuke some apps that were always running in the background. So far in the past 10 minutes my battery usage has completely leveled off so I am VERY hopeful that this will solve my battery life!! *fingers crossed*
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
One thing's for sure:

My bowel movements are more consistent than Android OS.

I would never put up with Android if it wasn't for open source and Swype keyboard ;)

I'm running the EXACT same apps and app data that I was running when I had ok battery life, re flashed stock rom and set it up the exact same way and now I am getting GREAT battery life. dafuq Google
[Moto X General] nimos001:
My battery life has been great. I can easily make it 1.5 days on a charge. Much better than my gnex w/ extended battery.
[Moto X General] scorpion667:
And here is my best battery life so far:
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Wow, some of you guys are getting great times. I wasn't so I rented a LG g2 for the next 14 days:-/
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
:D
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Here are all the apps that I've frozen so far.

Edit: I tried to upload 4 screen shots, doesn't look like it worked. I'll post them all when I get home in a bit.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Awe you froze touch less control. That's like the biggest thing of the moto x :-/
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I never use it. The only time I like talking to my phone is when there is a cute girl on the other end.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Understandable, I'm sure that's why you got such a bump in battery. If I kept the X I would leave it on personally
[Moto X General] alhadee12:
Pretty heavy usage.
[Moto X General] phositadc:
Are you still getting good idle drain? Aren't you the one that said yours improved when you were able to freeze a bunch of crap?

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Idle drain for me is basically nonexistent. Did you see that last screencap I posted? 4 hours 11 min unplugged, 30 minutes of screen time- 95% battery. How is that even possible?? Amazing.
[Moto X General] bso44:
So it seems like Touchless Control might be the source of your idle drain? That's kind of disappointing since it's a feature that I would use, especially when I'm driving. Guess I could toggle it on and off when I'm driving.
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
Lets try this again-
[Moto X General] _MetalHead_:
I don't think that was it at all, I've had it off since day one.
[Moto X General] robstunner:
Hmph. I was getting idle drain with greenify, frozen bloat, Google now off and sync only email and contacts. Literally nothing else and I'd hit 75% battery after 6 hours with 30 min screen time.
[Moto X General] bso44:
Gotcha. I'm interested to see how much bloat I'll have to freeze on the Sprint version. I should be receiving mine on Tues or Wed.
[Moto X General] plasticmoz:
I'm with you. I tried literally everything to narrow down what was causing the drain on my phone (even rooting and selectively freezing various apps). I just had a return processed on my 14th day and will have a replacement unit arriving next week. It has to have to do with my device as people are getting results I can never get under any circumstance on this device -- more specifically the idle drain is out of control. Hoping the new one will be better.
[Moto X General] tu3218:
Let us know how it goes. I was thinking about doing the same.
[Moto X General] Guilhermewpds:
That is impressive! Almost 7 SOT plus over 2 hours of music is a very solid mark.
[Moto X General] ram130:
Looks like high Android OS is related to location: https://plus.google.com/110686256095806218543/posts/YWMZtUpddD2

Funny. I did a test with a group. All wiped. Some installed all their apps and the other barely had any. Anyways, they got similar results, around 0.3%/hr in standby. After awhile of testing only one still had that stand by and gets nearly 4 days. Here's his screen shot:

All stock. No root. Location on, all LTE on Verizon. Google now on.

His Android OS is exactly on par with my N7. From testing on the N5, it should be around 1min/hr usually.

My quest continues. I may do a reset finally. After 6 months since I got my X to test.

Lol I didn't see a difference in disabling them anyways.
[Moto X General] :
Its strange, cause that's the only difference between my two phones. Active and touchless.

I'd say maybe it's radio related, but my x is maybe 0.8 per hour in airplane mode....and my n5 is 0.3 not in airplane mode...on wifi.

Dunno....just can't get the x's standby down any more. Mine anyway....seen lots here getting what my n5 gets.

Like I said, I quit worrying tho. My wife charges at night....and still gets amazing battery life. Even with her Facebook app. Lol

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My N7 is 0.1. Lol

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[Moto X General] ram130:
I find it funny my N7 gets 0.3% and you have 0.1%. Must be my notifications and syncing with WiFi on all the time. Or something else.

I'm trying not to worry but damn. When at I'm work that 10% cpu bug hits and drains my phone. Either way. I'm hoping Moto improves it. They're blaming NLP location process. I beg to differ. I think its one of those extra location services they added that's conflicting.
[Moto X General] :
And to add....my experience with location services is a little worse battery life on device only, and much worse on high accuracy. High accuracy made my android os much higher and I have barely any apps that even access location. People with chat apps, some games, and other apparently that access location will see android os for higher and higher.

Its a shame Google couldn't separate the battery stats, so the apps climbed in battery usage, instead if their location use getting lumped into android os. :)

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[Moto X General] ref1ux:
OK so I did a factory reset and things seem to have improved quite a lot. Android OS is now third down the list with only 16m on the clock. I have only installed the minimum apps I need so I'm wondering if it was down to an app or setting somewhere. I will continue to monitor.

If it's not too much effort, I'd recommend you do a factory reset too and see if it helps :)
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
Another one joins the party. Congrats. As of right now I'm not installing anything that hasn't been updated since kit kat. I'm also restricting myself to not installing a bunch of apps at once. It's tedious but hopefully worth it.

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[Moto X General] tu3218:
Yeah I'm gonna give it a shot. Will post back updates on how it turns out and affects Android OS battery usuage. As of now, I'm always hovering around 20%.
[Moto X General] conquesoextra:
I don't know but I'm very happy whit my battery life.

I always have everything on (really, everything): location services, bluethoot, WiFi, 4g, haptic feedback, sounds, everything...

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[Moto X General] ref1ux:
It is tedious, and I still think there's an underlying issue in this version of Android. But putting my phone on a diet does me a bit of good too... I don't really need 75 apps and 1,300 SMS messages.