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[Moto X Q&A] LOTL:
Add me to the list of the undecided. I still have the Galaxy S4 on my short list. Im leaning towards the Maxx for the aforementioned reasons.

The development issue has me balking at the Maxx though. That and some of the issues reported with last years Droid Razr Maxx HD. I know this SOC is different, but some of the sluggishness reported on the Razr Maxx after using them for a while has be wondering if i shouldnt wait a month or so.

Was an early adopter of the Droid X and its been my only phone for over 3 years. Still going for now running VXLR 2.2.0, but im seriously overdue for a new phone. I tend to hang onto phones for at least 2 years or more, so i want something i can ROM when and if it starts bogging down or i just want better features.

At the bare minimum id like to get root access on the Maxx. I guess its still a little too soon to know if that will happen. Anyone have any thoughts or a best guess on whether root will be achievable on the Maxx?
[Moto X Q&A] VinceT3:
I'm completely in the same boat. My renewal just came up. The X seems like a good phone, but it seems very similar to the Maxx and I would love to have the Maxx's battery life. The X/Maxx/etc have virtually the same specs. All of them have the same screen type that I dislike, I prefer the soft buttons so Maxx/Ultra are one down for that, no sd card (minor as I have a nexus right now), non-removable battery (minor but annoying).

I do love the HTC one, similar issues, I like the screen better & love the speakers in the front, because well its nice they are directed AT me, but the camera is weak and HTC hasn't been know for its quality in the last several phones it released.

The S4 is a possibility, my co-worker has it and loves it. The note 3 is coming out soon but that phone is massive! lol

What to do, what to do. :( If I had any choice I would really love another nexus, but alas that ship has long sailed and is most likely never coming back.
[Moto X Q&A] Psilocin:
The two major differences comes down to screen size and battery life. Maxx has a slightly larger screen size and double the quoted battery life for mixed use. Personally, screen sizes are getting out of control so MotoX is an easy pick.
[Moto X Q&A] JaeKay:
From what i read and experienced

Battery life:

MAXX > S4 > Moto X > One

Design:

One > Moto X > S4/MAXX

Screen:

One/S4 > Moto X > MAXX

Storage:

S4 > One > MAXX > Moto X

Camera:

S4 > One > MAXX/Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] Psilocin:
I disagree with the battery life that S4 is better than MotoX. Yes, the S4 has a 400mAh larger battery, but that is offset by the larger screen and higher resolution that requires more juice. The MotoX mainly comes short in 3G talk time. But let's face it, most people don't really spend a lot of time talking on their phones. We mainly use it for non-talk stuff (email, texting, music, video, etc), which is where the MotoX excels. Life all battery life tests, none of them matter because it depends on actual user.

Also the HTC One and MotoX should be tied for design as they both worthy for different reasons. Aluminum body on the HTC One is pretty sleek, while the motomaker and build quality on the MotoX makes plastic look expensive.
[Moto X Q&A] JaeKay:
True. If it's not the MAXX, battery life is all pretty much the same. As for the the design, i agree with you, but i also took into consideration the speaker design, I.E. the front facing goodness
[Moto X Q&A] robstunner:
No regrets with getting the maxx as long as signal with Verizon is good enough for me indoors where it matters (work) in happy with the switch. Went from 49% to 25% first day initial charge with 2hrs screen on time.
[Moto X Q&A] 18t:
Apparently the OS takes up 6.5GB. I'm going to go with the Maxx, I want more than 9.5GB for all my stuff on stock. But God, I hope this thing gets unlocked
[Moto X Q&A] jmill75:
Was waiting for the X this hole time. I went and took a look at the MAXX yesterday and went ahead and picked it up. Awesome device!!!!

Feels really solid. Great battery. External speaker is kick butt for a small speaker. Like the 5" screen.
[Moto X Q&A] Biverson:
Why is there not a Droid Maxx forum yet?

Someone else recently brought this up - why isn't there a Verizon Droid Maxx Forum yet? I see today they put a Verizon HTC One forum in, and that's not even out yet?!

I'm planning on going with the Maxx for battery life. If this had soft keys I'd be 150% sure, but right now am about 90%.
[Moto X Q&A] 18t:
Yeah it's a little odd there is no section yet... Unless they are tying it in this one because the four phones are practically the same but that would be weird and you'd think they would state that.
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
On Maxx now. Battery is amazing. Love the design and weight. Screen is great. Moto X almost had me sold the "design it yourself aspect", but wasn't enough for me.

Hope this gets enough love for root. But loving it so far.
[Moto X Q&A] plmiller0905:
I got a Ultra and love it. I'm using it with my ATT Sim at the moment. Every thing works too Calls, data (HSPA+) and mms..right out the gate. No messing around with apns.

If people is deciding to grab the Moto X and not pick up one of the new Droids up because of the possibility of no development because of the locked bootloader..if I remember correctly, the Verizon and ATT Moto X has locked bootloaders too. And since the new droids and the Moto X devices is so similar, I would assume that they have a similar bootloader and maybe even all locked down the same.
[Moto X Q&A] htowngator:
Maxx looked nice in store, but trying to decide if I should wait for moto X unlocked.

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Hmmm... I wish I could slap my work att sim in a maxx to try it.
[Moto X Q&A] phositadc:
How do you get Verizon to sell it to you if you don't have a Verizon account? I might want to pick up a mini to try on att.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Moto X Q&A] rndchef:
I am surprised there is no conversation on the LG G2 coming. I am ready to part with the DNA due to battery and wanting the latest. Tempted by the Maxx but I had the earlier version and Moto is just boring. Then I get stuck flashing and ignoring my wife. :laugh: The Maxx is heavy compared to the S4 or LG by 20%. Had the S4 and took it back since I wasn't in love with all the gimmicky stuff and it was just okay. Think Sense is better. Today I just decided to wait for the LG with the larger battery and slightly larger screen. Still tempted to go toy with the Maxx since no one does battery better.
[Moto X Q&A] JaeKay:
Isnt ultra a CDMA phone? How would it work with AT&T?
[Moto X Q&A] plmiller0905:
Its Sim unlocked. Just remove the Verizon Sim and pop your Att Sim or GSM Sim and you're good to go :)
[Moto X Q&A] craigbailey1986:
Trust me the buttons are very useful. Use the home button (swipe up) to bring up Google now. Hold recent for menu. No black bar.. Battery life is amazing! You can tell this is a motoX minus the custom styling. Why we don't have a forum is a bit mind boggling though.
[Moto X Q&A] JasonJoel:
There isn't a forum because there isn't any development yet. Even though each phone gets a general forum, this is primarily a development forum / site.

Until ever is development - at least root - it SHOULDN'T get it's own forum...

Some phones get forums ahead of release, but those are typically more global phones that there are definitely going to be development for.
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
I think Maxx is the Moto X on steroids, minus the customization. I think the Moto X should've gotten a larger battery. I seriously don't think people will like the batt life on it. Here's life on Maxx yesterday.
[Moto X Q&A] kornklown69:
24% drained at almost 10 hours lol i think i would like that a lot!
[Moto X Q&A] jmill75:
That makes no sense. No a device on Verizon that will sell 100s of thousands doesn't get it's own forum because there is no root? I've had numerous devices that didn't have root on day 1 that got forums.

How are we suppose to discuss the phone and root without a place to do it. Strange.
[Moto X Q&A] SymbioticGenius:
If you don't mind, what was the screen on time at that point?
[Moto X Q&A] kornklown69:
agreed just noticed the ultra finally has a spot rest to follow im sure
[Moto X Q&A] eallan:
That doesn't really show anything, the screen on time could be 10 minutes.
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
It shows screen was on 46% of the time. I'm a pretty heavy user. 46% out of 10 hrs is 4 and a 1/2 hours. Which would put my roughly at 40 hrs. battery life at my average use.

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Said 46%. Out of 10 hours Would be roughly 4 and a 1/2 hours with screen on. ;)
[Moto X Q&A] leffer:
That 46% means 46% of batt drain so far was from the screen.

You have to click the 'Screen' line there to see actual screen-on time...
[Moto X Q&A] 18t:
doesnt work like that

see here on my gnex....
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
Ahhh, gotcha! So how do I check that next time I snap photo? It's been a while. :p

Never mind, found it. Will take one tonight and we'll see :)
[Moto X Q&A] eallan:
That's absolutely not how the percentages work. The 46% is in reference to what has used what percentage of the total battery used all day.
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
I know, the above explained it to me. I was doing math. He showed me a pic. Are you not reading the rest of the posts? :rolleyes:
[Moto X Q&A] eallan:
Was just answering notification. No worries.
[Moto X Q&A] One2thTEXAN:
Here ya go. Time of screen on.
[Moto X Q&A] craigbailey1986:
Here's mines from today. 14% left with 3 hours of phone calls as well. Battery life us insane.
[Moto X Q&A] SymbioticGenius:
what I find most interesting is that these Maxx phones seen to have better battery life than my S3 with a 4300 mAh battery. even the old one did this. Any explanation?
[Moto X Q&A] yoitsjustin:
The Moto X has eight cores each for a different purpose! Most people see dual core and think it would be slow, but there are actually another six cores powering the phone. The 720p saves a ton of battery, and it still looks just as nice as a 1020p screen. (Its hard to see the difference unless you hold it next to the HTC one.) The Droid Maxx is known for a stellar battery, but the Moto X is as well. They are both big battery phones made to last as long as possible, but the Moto X is newer with much better hardware. Because of the better hardware, the Moto X may have slightly less battery, but most likely not a big difference. Good luck on your choice! :thumbup:

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The Maxx phones were built for battery. They tend to have slightly lower specs and many power saving features built in. Also, the S3 has an AMOLED screen which takes up a ton of battery, and then of course the many built in Samsung features that drain battery. If you turn off location services, GPS and maps your battery should last a lot longer. Also all the Samsung Smart features kill battery. Not much you can do for the screen, except maybe lowering screen brightness and turning on Power Saving Mode.
[Moto X Q&A] eallan:
Every max has had an AMOLED display as well... in fact, i'd wager the first max and S3 pretty much share a screen.
[Moto X Q&A] wolfedude88:
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about, the droid maxx and moto x have the exact same hardware besides physical looks and screen size. The moto X is rated for half the battery life as the X.
[Moto X Q&A] Chad_Petree:
And how many hours of general use ? Damn I'm completely jealous this is almost the double of what I get with my nexus 4! :(

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[Moto X Q&A] craigbailey1986:
Well I will be at work today and the screen on time will be really low so I will posy back how it perform with minimum general usage today.
[Moto X Q&A] SymbioticGenius:
I neglected to mention that I am running CM 10.2 so none of Samsung's battery killers are here. I just can't see the Maxx lasting so much longer, but the proof is all over this thread. I keep the GPS Wi-Fi and Bluetooth off until I use it and still. the Maxx might be the way to go but it looks like even the x might get better battery life than I with half the mAh of my extended
[Moto X Q&A] yoitsjustin:
CM 10.2

I am running CM 10.2 on my GS4 and I get about 16-18 hours with medium usage (texting all day.) I wake up at 5:00 AM and text until 9:30 PM.
[Moto X Q&A] DarkFridayz:
Droid MAXX......

I Have the XT1080 and love it except for one thing..... Works great (4G, HSPA+ with Cricket!) in the city BUT in my little po' dunk town which has VZ or Sprint towers but nothing else nearby..... Signal is very spotty and the battery life goes right out of the window. Although I do have the LOUDEST smartphone for a 30ish mile radius....
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DumbleCore:
Thanks for that!!!

Edit: Works near perfect!Slim File Manager worked for me

Edit2: MusicFx also Works!

The Wipe!

°It's all about the Wipe°

XT910 D'Unicorns - JBX - Hybrid
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
Downloading now.

Will give this a try and report back.

Thanks for the work, much appreciated
[Motorola Droid RAZR] AztekSoul:
Been waiting for this for sooo long,downloading now..thanks.

Edit:for me is working great,no fc's

no sound problem yet..very snappy.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
Just flashed it and had to go back to carbon.

Had FC in browser, couldnt get it to even open. But no FCs in slim manager or music app.

Couldn't get the quick panel settings to show no matter how many times I try to tap on it (upper right corner of notif bar).

WiFi and 3g was working, camera/gallery was working as well, pretty much those were the only issues I encountered.

It was snappy and real fast, just need to fix the quirks and this could be a really promising ROM.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] alteredlikeness:
Did you wipe data if coming from another ROM? And did you install the proper 4.3 gapps?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
Yep did a complete wipe (data/csche/dalvik) and formatted system as well before flashing the ROM and the gapps package.

I used the slim gapps linked in the OP.

I tried to clear cache and dalvik but issues remained, I also tried fixing permissions in recovery and same result.

But still, having been able to use it for like 20 minutes I can tell its a great ROM and id like to use it when it's stable for me.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sreeman:
Just installed this ROM! Reaely smooth and nice. Slimmanager works fine, no worries.

Only question is how come google Now does not work when the search button is pressed?

thanks!

Edit: Also, how do i get Halo up and running.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] PL113:
Does the TRIM work?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brantuck84:
Halo is not in this rom

Sent via Raven

"Dark Wings.....Dark Words"
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ktimque:
For me, Wifi wouldn't turn on & also no 1% battery increments in this rom?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] artur0588:
How to copy paste files in file manager. I only can copy but can not find out how to paste.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] bgstyle:
Bluetooth will not turn on for me. However the ROM is smooth as far as everything else goes.

Razr CDMA xt912
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
One thing that may have an issue for me is that i'm on jbx when i flashed this rom. Could that have been the cause of the issues i had? If so, how do i make sure that JBX gets flashed over when i flash this rom?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] AztekSoul:
I don't think so,if you formated system and did all the wipes you shouldn't have a problem,I'm on BMM and I go the extra mile by formating data and cache also.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
Yeah i did all that, wiped everything and topped it off with a format of system and cache. But had those issues still, probably because it's alpha, but i see other people having everything working and some have issues too.. I hope the dev can sort it out.

If dev needs any help let me know, i can provide logcats or whatever the dev requires to troubleshoot the issues.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kenosis:
Running smoothly without problems. In my opinion, this rom is faster than other JB 4.3 XT910 roms. :)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ktimque:
Updating..

Wifi is fixed

GPS doesn't lock/tells me I'm somewhere else

Also, for whoever was asking why GoogleNow doesn't open when pressing the search button, go to SlimCenter and delete the system app QuickSearch.apk (or something like that) and when you press search Now will appear.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] JiroPrinz8:
Can you post your setup?

BMM which slot? What did you wipe which kernel etc.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kenosis:
I install on BMM slot-2. Full Wipe and flash. You cannot flash JBX kernel yet. JBX doesn't support 4.3 yet.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] p0k3y:
My available RAM is very low, about 50MB free. I am not using live wallpaper and removing all widgets didn't help me either. Any ideas? Other than that, this ROM seems to perform on par with LiquidSmooth, which ran 4.2.2.

Edit: found smart ram booster app and it solves the problem beautifully. Now I have 350mb free and the phone flies.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] branedamig:
Using PA Gapps

I am excited to give this ROM a go but would like to use PA Gapps for 4.3. Does anyone know if I can do this on the most recent build of this ROM? Thanks!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Wombatino:
At least with cyanogenmod you can do it

Enviado desde mi XT910 usando Tapatalk 2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brantuck84:
You can but if you use the dark slim toggle your gapps won't turn. I have had problems in the past using gapps other than the ones slim releases at the same time as the build

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I have always heard free ram is wasted ram all you need to do is adjust your minfree values I set mine with ROM toolbox pro and my phone it not slow by no means and my ram stays around 30-50 free
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Olao99:
Hey, I suggest you to use a RAM admin script, like V6 Supercharger.

It changes the amount of RAM Android gives to different processes like the home launcher or the visible app, and the way the native app killer behaves, so it ensures you to have a definite amount of free RAM without having to be constatly killing apps with an external app.

I use this on every ROM I flash. For me it makes a very big difference, it makes the ROMs faster and snappier. It makes MIUI v5 usable. (It is very laggy)
[Motorola Droid RAZR] p0k3y:
Thanks, I will give it a try.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] p0k3y:
Is there an addon for this ROM that allows customizing lock screen slider targets?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Gautam Padirooted:
INternal SD card not mounted

I have a wierd problem. the internal SD card does not seem to be mounted

external SD card is seen though

I tried mounting frm recovery also but it didnt work

please help
[Motorola Droid RAZR] DumbleCore:
Settings-security-lockscreen-slider targets

Sent from my XT910 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] p0k3y:
LOL - you must be saying "what in idiot". Thanks! Problem solve.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ktorres1120:
Anyone having problems with the camera force closing? It says gallery not found when I try to launch it. Tried reflashing but no go.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] seandop:
Asked and answered. Flash gallery fix in OP.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] sreeman:
Anyone else having issue with WiFi?

it does not scan the new hotspots i am at. It like repeatedly shows the hotspots at where i WAS the first time i on-ed my Wifi.

I did clean both the cache, tried again worked fine the first time, but second time i on my wifi outisde my house at my office, its showing me the AP's that were present at my house and me neighbours...cleared cache, worked again..,managed to get my office AP and the surrounding AP's, went back home, and shows me my office and surrounding AP's and not my homes...

:S
[Motorola Droid RAZR] seandop:
Yes, I get this. Toggling airplane mode on, then back off is a quick, temporary fix.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] stedev:
I have the same problem. I found it necessary to reboot in order to get it back, but only temporarily. Didn't have this with the betas though. Have done a clean install on sys2. Any ideas? Great ROM by the way!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] alteredlikeness:
Updated to stable build 1.2

And mirrored..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pseudoheld:
just flashed the gsm version (clean wipe) but wifi ain't working.

tried rebooting multiple times and wiping cache etc but still not working.

will try and reflash :S
[Motorola Droid RAZR] thefever:
Having issues with WiFi as well. Other than that, absolutely love this ROM. Good work.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] alteredlikeness:
You guys try running:

su

sh /system/bin/wifical.sh

from Terminal Emulator?

Maybe toggle Airplane mode.. Should bring up WiFi.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] base_band5:
I had this issue when I used the JBX Kernel, the way round it was to use BMM's Hot reboot. I stopped using JBX kernel, and all returned to normal.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pseudoheld:
tried that. didn't work :(

not using jbx...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] thefever:
Yeah, tried the usual remedies. Its been a no go.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dkahs23:
Yeah, me too. No WiFi. Tried all the tricks. Going back to build 1
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brantuck84:
WiFi is working fine for me on a fresh clean install on spyder
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nidev:
WiFi problem temporal fix

I'm using XT910 umts_spyder with BMM 0.3.4.

I experienced same problem with WiFi. I tried to use wifical.sh to calibrate WiFi, but I saw 'Fail to tune channel' from adb shell.

It seems that wrong firmwares are in Build 1.2, or wrong wpa configurations are.

I did copy firmwares and wpa configurations from Build 1 zip file and pasted into Build 1.2 flashable zip file.

After flashing it and I reboot my phone again after the first boot of XT910. I managed to enable WiFi.

1. Copy "Slim-umts_spyder-4.3.build.1.2-UNOFFICIAL-20130924-2007.zip" into different name. (just make a backup of original zip file)

ex) Slim-patched-umts_spyder-4.3.build.1.2-UNOFFICIAL-20130924-2007.zip

2. If your file archiver supports drag and drop between archivers, just do drags and drops on these files, from Build 1 to Build 1.2.

- Whole folders and files in /system/etc/firmware

- Whole folders and files in /system/etc/wifi

3. After doing 2, you may copy modified Build 1.2 to your phone and flash it over recovery.

4. Reboot

5. As rebooting is done, reboot again.

6. Check whether WiFi works or not.

Hope this problem will be fixed soon.

Edit: It broke BT. failed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] dkahs23:
Yeah, I did a dirty flash with 1.2 just wiping cache and dalvik cache.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] donnytuco:
getting issues with external sd not mounting, and consequently corrupted whatsapp messages with 1.2
[Motorola Droid RAZR] alteredlikeness:
If people are still having trouble with WiFi, it seems that there were some commits last night that may fix the issue.

I put the new wifical.sh in the wificalFIX.zip attached to the OP. Just flash in custom recovery - it will swap the wifical scripts and should run the new one for you. Nvrmnd - zip removed.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pseudoheld:
flashed it but still no wifi. trying to run wifical i get an error that wifical wasn't found...
[Motorola Droid RAZR] alteredlikeness:
A big hmmmmm... I see that.. Yea, disregard that FIX.zip for now.

And you did try a fresh install after wiping everything? It's odd how it's not affecting every user..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] pseudoheld:
Completely clean install. Even wiped system. Didn't help.

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[Motorola Droid RAZR] Brantuck84:
Is it only 910's having problems with WiFi? B/c my 912 works fine clean and dirty flash both had working WiFi.