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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Philosopher77:
It does work without the power but I've read that some of the fake ones have been reported to work as well.

My biggest issue with this adapter is when I'm playing emulated games in landscape. It works great for the first 5 mins or so, and then it seems it drops from 60Hz to 30Hz and makes my games unplayable. I racked my brain and did every test I could think of to figure out why this might be happening when I came across this thread. So I'm trying to figure out if I do indeed have a fake and that's the cause, or if it something else I haven't figured out yet.

Regarding the alignment: It doesn't slide in PERFECTLY but it doesn't feel like it has any great misalignment either.

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The one that I have, which I'm still trying to determine is real or fake is 68.25g box and all. Again, mine's box looks like the fake one, but the weight of the adapter itself closely matches the real one (but with a suspicious rattle, like they just added a little lead weight).

Does anyone know of a good way to test the adapter for it's authenticity just based on specs? For example: some phone app that will test the frequency, resolution and speed test of the MHL? It seems like we definitely need a 100% sure way of determining if we have the genuine article or not.

With testing the weight, they can just add a little lead weight. Apparently now the charging works too. So it really may just come down to the performance. If the knockoffs resolve that too then I guess no one would care if they are fake or real right? haha :D
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Flashaholics Anonymous:
That's just sad

Thanks for the heads up! Wow, I can't believe the difference in weight. Stupid knockoffs. :mad:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Philosopher77:
As a follow up, I would like to drop a quick update here that I think I may have resolved my frequency issue and it doesn't appear to be the adapter.

Therefore, I can confidently say, based on the performance and weight, that I have a genuine adapter.

It came in the "fake" style box which I can see now the OP has correctly made a note on his first post that this is likely just an older style box that are still being used in many places (other than the US) to ship genuine adapters.

Cheers all!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] LoveQwerty:
I haven't seen the "real" package anywhere online, at least not in Europe.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] sat73:
Hi. .

Unfortunately I too bought a 'fake' cable ,the packaging n cable appears as shown in pic in first post. .

bought it through refiff online shopping..v asked for refund

the cable doesn't work. .it also doesn't fit properly to usb port..it is very tight n entire portion doesn't go into port..

Does d original cable also has same prob. .?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dlinfiniti:
has anyone tried the cable at monoprice?

the fact that it's all in one and I don't need to carry around any other cables is appealing
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jmelan:
No. The real cable plugs in as you would expect.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] XDavidT:
i have the fake one.. it's not work without power.. and it's work great with my tv.. real 1080p
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] DJSmoove:
I need someone help I bought one of these earlier last month for myself I got a real one. But now I ordered one off eBay for $45 for my wife and the package is way different can someone tell me if this is real before I opened it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] big samm:
I just received mine today with the fake box but the adapter is real, maybe that's the box for international buyers im not in the U.S. I'm in Canada. .. And also checked the weight 42.6

and definetly works without power on 60hz... Here is a couple pics.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] DJSmoove:
That's exactly the one I got yesterday from eBay it's real I guess Samsung change the packaging and update something on it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dakunclear:
I'll just keep using the one I had for my s3 and note2
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Eddy315west:
i bought this one from ebay from this ebay seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/221266021981

except mines says samsung on it not mhl to hdmi like in the picture

the adapter weighs 18.9g without attaching the gray thing that goes on the wire. 24.7 with it attached.

packaged without the booklets since i shot them out weighs 40.0

i can use my s4 without even a power cord and shows great .

so i dont know what else to say !
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jmelan:
looks like the description says "not brand samsung" but if it works than that is really all that counts!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Mr.MaGillaCutti:
hah. that sucks to whoever got hosed getting a fake hml adapter. I got 2 of them for 40 bucks from the samsung website. sweet deal.:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Majin101:
When u register ur device to Samsung did u get 50% discount? Cause I did 2 days ago.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Mr.MaGillaCutti:
Nah I Googled coupons for Samsung. Worked like a charm. You can Google coupon codes for just about anything.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jujuburi:
Could anyone link me to an original MHL adapter for S4 of eBay? International shipment is preferred.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ministerjee:
can anybody tell me what mhl/hdmi adapter works with t-mobile sgh-m919 ??
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] travanx:
Product is http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA

50% off coupon code is rv18623

add to cart, add coupon, will tell you to register to use coupon. $25.74 shipped/tax in California.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jujuburi:
Will this work with S4? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-MHL...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item1e7ca04ea8
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
Can anyone link to an amazon/ebay list of an authentic mhl 2.0 adapter?

This has signs of being legit but.... comes from china and has the older packaging.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] bvic01:
just for the record, the MHL adapters needing power or not depends on the source you are plugging in to. If that source provides enough power the microusb power cable is not needed. That is why the fake ones work without the power cable too. Also, it is not necessary to get a name brand samsung adapter for it to work properly. You can get some other brands that probably even work better for less moeny. Check the amazon reviews for good ones.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
Ive heard some of these knock offs dont do too well with performance when playing games,etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jmelan:
The fake one that I purchased on eBay definitely did not work without power, but the one purchased directly from Samsung works perfectly.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321161062142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Seller claims these are genuine...tempting as I have some credit to use.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] toneedo:
on his listing he puts "*** Some customer report that this adapter need to plug-in power cable to work properly ..."

sounds fake to me...let us know how it works out
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] david832:
I bought mine in amazon, fake after all, it doesnt work at all, is like the picture of the fake one, and i paid it almost the same that real one, fu%$·ers
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Jimmy2u:
Yes its correct and its fake one of my friend also bought one from ebay and it did not work...and when he tried to contact customer care executives there was no proper revert even from their end too...so its a quite phishy product to fool the customers........
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Wittyusernametaken:
Amazon is great with refunds at least
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] david832:
Yes you are rigjt, but I live in Argentina, I bought it and sent it to the hotel in wich my friend stayed
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CodeJACK:
Here is a few internal pix of a fake one. If anyone is feeling brave, could they do the same for a real one?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Flo354:
WoW, the false products are almost undetectable...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
Ok so my real adapter from samsung finally csme in..

Connected it to mhl hdmi port on my tv..but its not charging...what am I missing?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] hyorigajjang:
would these work with aokp/aosp roms?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
Man.. trying to get support from Samsung is such a pain in the ass.

I ordered the mhl 2.0 adapter from them in order to avoid this whole fake nonsense.

Its near impossible to submit a ticket on their page... they make you jump though so many hoops and hurdles. On the last email, they tried telling me that a power source is required to charge the phone.. Isn't the whole point of 2.0 is so that isnt the case???
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jmelan:
You definitely do NOT need a power source on the S4
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] norazi:
yep I got burned on ebay with a $8 counterfeit... took my chances.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] zmsp:
The fake one has better packaging
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] kanal108:
so what's the difference due to the price point ?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] FilipSehovic:
I have got fake one too. Aaaaaaaa
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] VaderSS:
Can you check the charge rate with the real adapter?

I have one that I am not sure is a fake or not, as I am not near a scale at the moment, but it came in "fake type" packaging. It does work without a charger attached, but when a 2.1 amp charger is plugged in, it only privides 700mA to the phone. The same charger provides 1900 to the phone when the screen is off, and 1200 when the screen is on.

I use an app called Galaxy Charging Current Lite to measure it. If you leave the screen off for a minute or so, then turn it on and quickly hit "Refresh", it shows the screen-off current. With the adapter, mine only shows 700, screen on or off.

Update;

My adapter weighs 42/48mg so I am thinking it is the real deal.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] VaderSS:
HDMI only supplies 50mA of current . There is no way it can charge the phone without a power source..
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] guyver2077:
Thanks for the info. Again though, isn't one of the features of MHL 2.0 the ability to provide power through the MHL cable? (this eliminating need for power source)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nicholi2789:
I definetely have to agree with the OP. I have tried four different MHL adaptors for my S3 and S4. The first three were cheaper knock off ones from Amazon. All three of them sucked. The video quality was spotty and none of them lasted longer than a couple weeks. I finally broke down and spent the 40 or 50$ on a name brand Samsung one from the Samsung website. The quality was like night and day. Always worked great and I still have it. Then I really splurged and I bought the 99$ Samsung smart dock. Freaking amazing little gadget. It docks/charges your phonne, has 3 usb ports, a full sized HDMI port and headphone jack. Whenever I'm watching videos from my phone to my TV, I use this little gadget now. It's amazing. You can find it here: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA Kinda spendy at 99$ but well worth the price.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] konstantinos86:
I ve also bought from ebay and it was the fake one. Has anyone tried to get a refund? should i try?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] VaderSS:
Yes, MHL 2.0 provides for the capability of up to 900 mA(500 mA for MHL 1.0) The power has to come from somewhere though.

I've only used this adapter with non-MHL HDMI ports. When doing this, either the phone powers the adapter, or the external power does, which also allows the adapter to charge the phone.

I don't know if this adapter will supply power to the phone if it is plugged into an MHL enabled HDMI port. Based on your email from Samsung, it seems that it would not.

If plugging directly into an MHL enabled HDMI port with a passive cable, then the phone should be charged as you expect it to be. However, due to Samsung's use of a proprietary 11 pin connector, I'm not certain this would work with the S4. It may work if the 11 to 5 pin adapter were used, or if the passive cable is 11 pin. I don't know if an 11 pin passive cable exists though.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jayally:
I bought the Fake box/adapter on Amazon for $28. It did work with my car stereo and did not seem to need to be plugged in but it interfered with my portable GPS and Samsung S4 Phone. I would lose my GPS signal when I had it plugged in and the phone would lose its mobile data connection which made it worthless! Wi-fi worked but only when I was in the garage! After much searching I could not find a reason why I lost my phone signal even though I read posts from others with the same issue. Fortunately each time I unplugged it I got mobile data and GPS back. I tried it on my TV and I still lost mobile data. At least I know its not my new stereo that's the problem. I ordered one from Samsung for $25 total and I am anxiously waiting for it to arrive to make sure its not a problem with any of my equipment.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] raed81:
What's the big deal if you have to plug it to work ? I bought MHL adapter from Chinese seller for $8 and it works perfect on my s3.....s4 ..note 3 and 2 more galaxy tab
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] trhush:
I have the same issue i have a pioneer avh-x8500bhs and the mhl adapter cut the gps signal i have the genuine adapter directly from Samsung store. Please keep up informed in how goes your adapter and if you have any solution for the gps cutoff please share. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jayally:
The one from Samsung was much heavier and works fine. I had to use a USB cord plugged into a cigarette adapter to get more power which could also cause GPS issues due to not enough power for everything, I think the one I have is 2amp and it also powers my phone although not too quickly but at least I am not losing power like I was before. Occasionally I will get the no service for network connections but it comes right back unlike before when I couldn't get it to work unless I unplugged the MHL adapter. I think the one I bought on amazon was faulty or fake.

Make sure if your phone is rooted you uncheck enable mock locations in developer options to get the GPS to work since the 8500 does not have a GPS antenna. I haven't had any issues since I did that and then also bought the other MHL adapter. Its been a learning experience and I am getting very educated and as soon as I feel confident I will make a video tutorial since I have gotten the radio and phone to do everything I want. I have a DVD in the player, SD card with movies, USB stick with Mixtrax songs, Ipod hooked up with music and audiobooks, pandora working via bluetooth plus I can listen to HD radio and then switch over and view my samsung S4 using ARliberator. I installed screenstandby have tasker set up to start the music player and then waze when I plug in the HDMI cable. My car had XM radio but I don't want to pay for it so I didn't bother hooking it up. Its a bit much for the car but it never hurts to have lots of options! :D

I have a brake bypass switch installed and have to press it every time I plugged the phone in and I can do anything I want while the car is moving. Of course I am not the one that will be checking email or playing a game WHILE actually driving but that doesn't mean my passengers don't want to check their facebook newsfeed now and then. It also helps I have grandfathered in unlimited verizon 4G internet service!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] futiless:
Most people don't seem to get it in this thread I want my phone charging not dying so I have to shut off video frequently due to dead battery doesn't help the screen stays on sucking juice..

I bought a fake.. I think no 60 hz and no power cableless operation. But for me the biggest problem is the difference dying battery....

Can someone confirm the mhl official dies on hdmi standard connections and not mhl.. Maybe this is the problem
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mentslake:
wow they look the same. except the mhl description:)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jayally:
I don't understand what you mean. The only phone I know of that does not need an MHL adapter are the Motorola ones since they have an HDMI mini output jack. I have a Droid 2 and can plug that one directly into an HDMI cable using a HDMI mini adapter and it works fine. The samsung phones do not have an HDMI port so you must somehow convert the signal. From what I have understood about most MHL cables is they take a lot of power to convert the signal so if you don't have the right adapter you will have any power source powering the adapter and subsequently slowly draining your phone.

I had this problem with my first fake MHL adapter and it would not power my phone but the one I got directly from Samsung (cheaper than Amazon with a coupon!) charges both although not as quickly if I was just charging the phone but that makes sense. I also make sure the power source I am using is good enough to provide enough power to both sources and use screenstandby to turn off JUST the phone screen so it conserves power.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] futiless:
Actually I am making reference to the display not the mhl connector. IE the display apparently also needed to be an MHL ready display, it was to my understanding the new 11 pin samsung s4 connection was to make this HDMI compatible with any generic HDMI connection at up to 1080p 60hz .. Which can via MHL 2.0 technology charge at 900 mAh - 1000 mAh which allows the unit to and this is best part and all I care about is that the unit gains power at some rate and doesn't in fact lose power. OTHERWISE it's simply a toy as you have to disconnect it frequently to charge, in the middle of what you are doing.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] RealLoki:
Is this a fake?

Hi,

I've just bought and received the Samsung HDTV adapter from Amazon which is fulfilled by Amazon but not sold by them as they don't sell one.

After I received it I came across this thread before opening the packaging. The box is the so called fake one without the hologram.

My main question is do genuine Samsung products need to have this hologram (i'm sure it confirms it is) or does the packaging differ as everyone is finding on here?

As my Battery Kit had the same issue where the box was different to the definite genuine one and no hologram I was unsure if I had a fake and even wrote to the company's customer service with my concerns. They assured me it was real so I took a chance and both the kit and battery have no difference to the genuine one that came with my S4. It seems by reading most of these comments it's looking the same story.

I'm holding out opening my purchase in case I want to send it back so any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cwalkin:
I have a real one, purchased directly from Samsung and will only work WITHOUT power....which sucks because I can't charge my phone while using it. Whenever I connect power to it, the HDMI disconnects, then connects, then disconnects, over and over and over...Can't figure out why.

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The Galaxy S3 came with a microusb to HDMI cable.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrm1:
The one I got from Amazon matches all the details of the fake one in the first post but works great. Watched a 2 hour movie on it. When I started watching the phone had 80% charge but was fully charged by time the movie had finished. The seller was certain it was genuine and even took them off sale for a couple of weeks until he had confirmation from his supplier and from Samsung they were not fakes. Offered to take it back for a full refund if I was not happy but decided to keep it on the end.

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrm1:
I bought mine from xtradedeals on Amazon. To be honest they seem like a legit company and we're more than happy to try and resolve my query.

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cwalkin:
I have an authentic one, purchased directly from Samsung which will only work WITHOUT power....which sucks because I can't charge my phone while using it. Whenever I connect power to it, the HDMI disconnects, then connects, then disconnects, over and over and over. Anyone hae any idea what would cause this?

Tried to get a replacement from Samsung but they are Out of Stock. TigerDirect which is a reputable company is selling them through Amazon. I ordered one and will report if it has the hologram on box....AND if it solves my problem.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cwalkin:
Tiger Direct MHL 2.0 cable is REAL. Came in box with hologram logo and in plastic bag like pictured on 1st page of this thread.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ChronoReverse:
Is there a way to bypass the "Please plug into the TV directly and not through a receiver" thing?

Will AOSP override this arbitrary thing?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cyberdiamond.steve:
Thanks

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] edulechuga:
Do you guys know if this accessorie works for both Galaxy S4 and HTC one?

Best regards,

Eduardo Lechuga
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] RunNgun42:
Jesus christ how is this such a problem?! I cant find these stupid things anywhere but amazon/newegg/ebay, and of course there are dozens of them by shady companies which are probably all knock-off's. Not even bestbuy or the cellphone carriers carry these things in stores. What the hell. Only option is to order from samsung direct for $40.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] tempest64:
I just received a genuine one from eBay for $25. I had two fake ones to compare against, and the difference is obvious. No link since sold out. Thanks OP.

Amazon accepted the fakes I had back even though I bought them in June and October.

The fakes ones on eBay now don't seem to have the word Samsung on the packaging pictures anymore, plus no hologram.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] alphafsys:
as far as I know, newegg.com has it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] DBak451:
Newegg only has it through a 3rd party seller.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] pyrobo0by:
Here's the internal for the real one I guess
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] pyrobo0by:
i just recieved this and its used and came in original packaging but its not working i tried it with a custom 4.3 rom and 4.4.2 rom and its not working does anybody knows why?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] SO_dank:
I needed one fast so I got on the car and drove to all the stores in the area. To my surprise no one carried it... While im in staples I see the chromecast.. well it looked like it would do what ineeded it to at the moment so I bought it. Now isee it does everything ineed it to period. Only wish I didn't update since you can flash a custom firmware... still might swap it out not sure. Anyway 30 bucks and no cords that ended my search for 2.0 mhl
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] slow_one:
my guess would be they are both real , can you touch them? but is one counterfeit or original?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] carabina44:
Thanks for the heads up on this. It's amazing how real the fake one looks.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] brendang00:
Battery for S4 (clone ?)

i9500 Clone? Sorry can't find this anywhere I'd like replacement battery.

I cannot find a battery that fits this device. It is a Samsung S4 or clone or something. I have tried getting S4 battery but doesn't work. Bought on

i9500GSMH

gt-i9500

a3lgti9500

Device S/N ( S4 clone? )s/n r21cczybcm

battery s/n ys1d503 z s/2-b
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] delfuhd:
Hey guys, I've found a promo code for "mobile accessories" to use in the samsung store;

I did have to create an account to use the code, but oh well it was worth it for 50% off. With shipping I just ordered the MHL 2.0 adapter for only 25 bucks! I'm going to ASSUME that ordering from the official Samsung website ensures I don't get a counterfeit, so we'll see once I get it. This is much better than the $40 it usually is.

Not sure what the rules are for posting promo codes (I didn't see any), but I'm not affiliated with any company, just sharing a find to get a good deal on this accessory without worrying about getting a fake! Also not sure when this code expires, but I'm sure 30 seconds of sleuthing will provide that answer for you :D
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] satyonline:
Thanks. seems i got a fake one. I was quite happy for having got one but i was wondering why the hell do i have to attach the power cord to make it work. Now i know.