yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] djkozdefantastico:
Dev is a dedicated bad ass. If I had money, id give it all to him. Thanks for your awesome continued work on Otter!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
UPDATED:

In light of *most* recent issues being fixed, i thought it was time for another stable build, so there you go.

New stable build in the link in OP

Enjoy
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Seeing the ram usage, PAC Man will go better with KitKat
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Tis better
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
What I mean to say is seeing the features, your rom is Excellent! Just that it uses a lot of Ram, so KitKat will improve memory optimization. Its a 4star from my side.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
I know. And I was saying the ram usage us much lower on 4.4
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
pac_otter-nightly-20131217.zip

is this KitKat?(Saw it on your website)

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pac_otter-nightly-20131217.zip

is this KitKat?(Saw it on your website)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Kk is not available to anyone unless they can compile the source. Hang tight it's coming
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
Where I can read the nightlies changelog? Is the latest nightlies still 4.3 based?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/logs/

The changelog-nightly files

And yes. The nightlies are 4.3 still
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
I'm on latest nightlie and after I activated PIE control and after I changed 3-4 times System UI,now the nav bar doesn't appear anymore,why?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Make sure it is enabled in pa prefs. Also make sure pie is turned off
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
thank you,it was at 0% of its size

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Now I installed Nova launcher but when I open it,it sets 170dpi/720p while I set 170dpi/600p for all application in PA settings in expert mode,how can I solve this issue?

EDIT:

I solved it by changing the number of columns and rows of Desktop
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
i've another issue,how can I manage and share apps from first account to another? The account settings allow me to change only the name
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
Why on second profile the background is only black? Is possible to fix this issue?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
Can someone help me?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
You can't. It's meant to be completely different

Have you tried setting a different background?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
For share apps I've I solved it by installing an App for multiuser apps management from play store.

For the background I've not yet solved the problem,I already tried to set a different wallpaper but it works only with live wallpapers

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
if I update the rom and then I wipe cache and dalvik cache,could I lose installed apps or not?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
You shouldn't lose any apps on/data

(The ones you installed from the play store)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Hey [MENTION=4757337]goldflame09[/MENTION] I'm not able to download the ROM, the website is down
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
We are doing a large move around with our servers. Sorry for the inconvenience
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
INFO:

Thread has been updated for 4.4!!

On the downside, the first nightly failed last night :(

Should get one tonight though :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Love you dude!!!

No more ram issues!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Koopa777:
Oh goldflame, we meet again. I had to do a double-take because I was pretty sure that I was no longer on the G2 forums. :p

What kernel does this include? CM, Diablo, etc.?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
lol XD i pretty much take care of all the kindles (4 of those, 2 g2's, and 1 samsung) :P

as for kernel, uses cm's
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
3-4-14 nightly is now up!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
With Android 4.4 PAC I have about 68mb of RAM free
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
[MENTION=4757337]goldflame09[/MENTION], Can you please make a mirror? I'm not able to download the ROM
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
I can download fine

Very fast too
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Sir, can you please upload mirror? obviously with [MENTION=4757337]goldflame09[/MENTION] 's permission.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
The thing is, a new version is uploaded every day
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
I will not put any mirrors. The server was down for maintenance this morning but should be fine now
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Mirrors

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[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
For that build sure. I'd prefer that we didn't make mirrors but if you have to go ahead. Server should be working though
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
The servers have been very fast for me.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
Can someone upload some screeshots of 4.4.2 version?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Sure what do you want the screen shot to be of
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
Home (nav bar), notifications expanded layout and notification bar, paranoid settings menu

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
what do you mean by pa settings menu? if you are talking about hybrid its not in the rom due to pa not having it yet
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Mind if I steal those for the OP ;)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Sure but they have the tapatalk logo since I'm on my kindle now. Btw check out themed Google keyboards. They work really well with This ROM.

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Here is the transparent themed Google keyboard.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
yes, I was talking about of hybrid properties but I don't knew that there aren't in this release

[MENTION=4630246]joshuabg[/MENTION]: thank you for screenshots
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Alessioromatm:
I still have the old pac-man rom based on Android 4.3 and tomorrow I would like to uptade to latest version, but I want to know two things: the latest version has PA Colors or not? and the pie control?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
no and slimpie is in gerrit with some bugs remaining. pa has yet to make any features like they had in 4.3
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Will this ROM be made for otterX?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2671619
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
I can definitely try to do a manual build for you guys. I don't wanna do a full switch over because not all people will be using it.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Hmmm could you just add otterx to the basketbuild. The device actually changes from otter to otterX . New bootloader, recovery and ROM needed.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
while i understand that, i dont feel the need to add it there YET......

if you want i will make a manual build of it and post it here for you to try, but otherwise i will not add it to the nightlies list yet
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
well its up here: http://review.pac-rom.com/#/c/1850/

but will not be added to nightlies until i know enough people are using it where i can ditch the otter nightlies. not enough people use the device for us to build both of them

as for a build, here you go: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ZcXCdM0CVJNXNNQ1J4T0NhM2c/edit?usp=sharing

as a disclaimer:

I WILL NOT BE AT ANY FAULT FOR ANY DAMAGE THAT IS DONE TO YOUR DEVICE ROM FLASHING THIS. YOU MUST BE ON TEH NEW OTTERX PARTITION FORMAT IN ORDER TO FLASH THIS.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] chykal:
Of the three OtterX ROMs I have tried this one is my favorite. I would have tried it sooner but I didn't know there was an OX version. You might want to consider adding OtterX to the title so users can find it easier.

Thanks for the great ROM!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Due to the fact of me not knowing how many people are using otterx, I have not added it to nightlies yet. However I am glad to know that it works well
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Iguanadon:
+1 for otterx. Just saying. :D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
New build coming up today.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Will it support the new file system in bootloader 2.05?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Should I'll be syncing the trees right before I build
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Just to clarify the new file system is called F2FS
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Oh yes that. Yes it should be a part if it. I'll make sure to look at it beforehand
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
alright bad news for you otterx people, builds are failing which means that i will not be getting a build for you, sorry. :(

on the other hand, ive just finished exams for school and will now be able to spend more time focusing on this :)

sorry for the delay. was hoping to get it done tonight
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
The people who use otterX are lucky. ive just put another build in the OP for them and yes -- its 4.4.3 :p

link is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ZcXCdM0CVJdFlIa3U4UXBZM00/edit?usp=sharing

Enjoy!

P.S. f2fs should also be included according to the commit history of the repos i used
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashcode:
FYI, note the following changes which are not exactly public yet (but supported using the new TWRP):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53259402&postcount=383
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Sorry for not being on top of things.....life got in the way

Ill be getting a new OtterX build up for those using that partition format soon, so stay tuned. thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Well here you go. After a huge rebase taking place over at PAC, OtterX now has a build for this. Link is below and in OP.

And yes.......... some of the PAC features are missing. That's what happens during a rebase. They are being added back in slowly but surely. For the time being, enjoy the new, more stable base :good:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2ZcXCdM0CVJV2xncG9oNmhNajA/edit?usp=sharing
[Kindle Fire Android Development] podspi:
:good: Thanks! Stability/Speed are much more important to me than anything, and so far this rom is the best.

Downloading now... will update soon!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
I've never tried a PAC-Man ROM before but I decided to try the 8-15 release for Otter and I'm very impressed with all the extra features never found in most ROMs. The PAC Performance custom app has impressed me most with the simplified measures to tweak the CPU performance.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] kornklown69:
otter x build is smooth cant wait for more
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
I have just put up a poll. all in all, it is to see how many people actually use the otterx format. if i see more then the otter users, then otter will be taken off nightlies and otterx put on. and vice versa.

vote!!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] kornklown69:
where's the poll
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Top of the first page.

I voted....OtterX FTW!

(As they say in Chicago, vote early and vote often! J/K)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
I tried the 08/01 build. I lose the control keys when the tablet is horizontal. Vertical is fine. My tablet is horizontal 90% of the time.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Use a later build. It is fixed
[Kindle Fire Android Development] nightlimits:
Is there an otterx build past 8.01?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Nope. Sorry. I'll make one soon before school starts
[Kindle Fire Android Development] nightlimits:
No rush. Just switched to otterx and was curious. Only see the one.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Ya the ones from July I've deleted
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
The otterx version of this ROM loses the controls in landscape.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
That was LITERALLY just said 7 posts ago
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
In my previous post, I was not clear that I am using otterx. Your response indicated to me that you assumed I was on the Amazon partition scheme. I have installed every otterx rom on my kindle.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
My response doesn't indicate anything. If you has read the last 9 posts, you would be full aware of what the situation is
[Kindle Fire Android Development] nightlimits:
Reading is key in these forums..
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Here is the next build for otterx. RC-1 build should be nice and stable. hope you all enjoy!

OtterX 4.4.4 RC-1 from 09/04

Link in OP as well.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] nightlimits:
Can u give us an estimate of free ram after flashing?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
no because it varies for everyone depending on which apps they use and how many a person leaves open.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
NEWS FLASH:

Neither Otter nor Otterx were getting enough downloads to qualify for the nightlies. therefore ive created a script on the build machine I use (which if any of you have, we are looking for more for the nightlies) to build about every two days and upload them to basketbuild. so there will be no more builds in the nightly folder but rather look in the manual folder

Thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
I'm currently running the 09-08 release of pac-rom for Otter and so far so good :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] dja2k:
I am currently running HellFire 2.8 Stable, what Recovery do I need to flash this ROM?

dja2k
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
For Kitkat otter roms, like pac_otter-nightly-20140815.zip use 2.6.1.0 TWRP or better newest is 2.8.0.1 see my

Downloads for Kindle Fire Flashable Recoveries TWRP/COTR/CWM just download and install in current recovery

.

For Otter X roms, like pac_otterx_4.4.4.RC-1_20140917-132944.zip you need to convert to Otter X Project's Bootloader, TWRP, and partitions

see [YouTube] [How To] convert to OtterX ROM/TWRP/Bootloader [2014-05-08]
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
Does the custom tile in the Quick Settings panel for 'CPU Freq' work to adjust the CPU frequency? I notice it has the sliders for adjusting either/or the min and max frequency. Everytime I've tried to alter the frequency from the sliders, it does nothing. I would post a screenshot of the menu box with sliders but this browser is being difficult. No big deal with it though, the PAC Performance custom .apk is more than adequate to fine tune those options :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
What is the difference between Otter and Otterx?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
Please don't quote the op.

Otter Roms use stock partitions

OtterX Roms use OtterX Project partitions
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
So what's so special about OtterX?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
user data and sd card partitions are merged so you can use space how you want

newer f2fs file system

The otter partitions are smaller:

system = 512MB)

cache = 265MB

Vs the newer larger partitions in v2.05:

system = 768MB

cache = 512MB
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
Oooo nice!!! That actually will make a difference. Is the cache the RAM? Or is this different? I always confuse the two.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] goldflame09:
Please do me a favor and remove the OP from your post. Thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] VTCruzer:
I'd recommend checking out the OtterX Thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2671619

You can find all the info about it you need.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] skyungjae:
I'm loving the otterx version of this rom. I'm back to using the kindle as my daily tablet.

Edit: Anyone else having WiFi issues with the latest OtterX version? Though my WiFi connection stays active, I lose internet until I toggle WiFi off and on again. This only happens when I'm streaming a long video.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
There are new nightlies put out by goldflame09, just follow download links on OP!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Thread updated for lollipop.

Please give your device some patience before you write on "how slow it is"
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
The resurrection of the PAC ROM is awesome......anyway to implement the ability to edit the navigation buttons locations?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Next build should be a lot faster with low-ram optimizations.:D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
Haha. That was directed at me wasn't it. I understand. Lol
[Kindle Fire Android Development] slappydj1:
Is this ROM still being maintained?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] rgrever2:
Looks like it's still building semi-regularly forum.pac-rom.com/Thread-ROM-OFFICIAL-Lollipop-5-0-otterx-PAC-ROM-LP-Beta-1 latest build was 6/9/15 and seems to run well (at least better in comparison to the last AICP build I was running prior)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
Is that newest nightly 5.1?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] rgrever2:
5.1.1
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
Yes, it is 5.1. It's decent for a 5.1 ROM. It suffers from lack of free RAM which seems to be the norm for all 5.1 ROMs.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
I installed the newest nightly without installing Gapps and and so far it runs decent :) The Gapps seem to bog down LP ROMs considerably. I just sideload any apps I need.

I did however (like all my installed ROMs) remove any system apps I could get away with. Some examples include email, camera (of course), Bluetooth, music, contacts, calculator etc. Pretty much it leaves me with any extremely barebones ROM. I have to leave the clock and calendar app otherwise errors will occur if you tap the current time or date in the quick settings pulldown menu.

I use the interactive CPU governor with the max frequency at 1008Mhz and min at 300. In addition, I disable the windows and transition animations.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] KanD93:
WiFi problem

I just converted to OtterX and installed this ROM and everything except WiFi is working fine.

WiFi is showing 'Turning WiFi on...' but it's not turning on.

I have tried formatting twice, first time I also installed Gapps but the 2nd time I did not install Gapps but both ways the same problem.

I'm using 'pac_otterx-lp-mr1-Nightly-20150617.zip'.

Any help?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Guitarman:
Is this the first ROM you've tried after converting to OtterX?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
Did you verify the md5 for rom?

Verified that partitions are correct size and file system?

I Started a Thread [How To] Fix OtterX Install Errors, Partition sizes, Unable to Mount System... with some possible fixes for those having issues since converting to OtterX, with pushing files, failure to mount system errors when installing Lollipop Roms...

Partitions all should say Present: Yes

System: Current file System: Ext4 - Size: 751MB (768MB)

Cache: _Current File System: Ext4 - Size: 503MB (512MB)

Data:__Current File System: _ f2fs - Size: 5820MB (5880mb)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] KanD93:
Yes it was the first ROM that I tried after converting to OtterX. Now I've flashed 'pac_otterx-lp-mr1-Nightly-20150609' and everything is working fine.

I'm assuming that the build had some problem.

I went through your thread and I've verified the partition sizes. They are as follow:

All partitions say Present: Yes

System: Current file System: Ext4 - Size: 751MB

Cache: _Current File System: Ext4 - Size: 503MB

Data:__Current File System: _ f2fs - Size: 5799MB

Now the ROM that I've flashed is working fine.

I'm running TWRP v2.8.5.0, in case you want to know.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Laquox:
I know it's a shot in the dark considering KF1 development is all but dead but any chance we could see this rom with Layers support?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
PAC lp already has CM theme manager support.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] :
Hi guys! Long since I posted! Anyways I got my fire fixed by a repair guy and he did it.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Hello friend! Lomg time no see You here:)

You should see Cm11 thread :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62173645

Sorry for off topic :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] zmedhaug:
Just to make sure this ROM is for the kindle fire first generation correct? I didn't see it in the OP
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
Otter is the codename for kindle fire 1

Otter X is the kindle fire 1 with modified partitions see Project OtterX

[INDEX] Kindle Fire Development
[Kindle Fire Android Development] zmedhaug:
Ok just to be clear otter is kindle with it's OEM partitions. Otter X is after you partition it to run aosp ROMs?

I'm starting out new with a kindle. It was a gift. My sister had 3 generation 1 and all 3 needed the charging port soldered. She only wanted the two I could fix for free and left a third I put a new motherboard in.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
No

Otter roms are for stock partitions

OtterX roms require changing partitions first

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[Kindle Fire Android Development] Xdpker06:
Anybody have a mirror for this ROM? Link in op is dead
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
This tablet is basically dead. Forget the link.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sd_shadow:
https://s.basketbuild.com/devs/pacman/otterx
[Kindle Fire Android Development] zmiester:
I'm new here... is there a reason why I can't click on anything?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nocivus:
Hi all, i wonder if someone can help me.

I tried installing CoolDroid Revolution v 9.0 (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1980122) and the phone got stuck on the "HTC quietly brilliant" logo. Everytime i remove the battery it gets stuck there.

Moreover, rebooting into recovery (holding power and volume down) does not have any effect anymore.

Anyone has another idea to recover this phone?

Thanks,

Pedro
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
Try getting into fastboot by turning the phone off, then booting it back up using power + back. Post what it says there here.

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[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nocivus:
cacique ndocsse

Thanks for the tip with the "back" button. Managed to get into recovery from there. Now let's see if i can reinstall a ROM that works :)
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htcsfragg:
help

(if you have 4EXT Recovery this will work.)Either NOT .

Bootloader-(vol-key+powerbutton)->Recovery->Tools->Unbrick .

Voila got fixed :good:
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kuytaje:
Hii all,

i got the same problem too

i had my desire already rooted before,

and then i try to make it go back to stock ROM and then it failed :confused:

now on the screen only shown black screen, silver logo, and four exclamation :confused:

i try to remove the battery and put it back,

nothing's changes :confused:

when i turn it on, and connect to the computer and dissconnect it

only show

alpharev cm7 r2

bravo pvt3 ship s-off

hboot-6.93.1002

microp-051d

touch panel-synt0101

radio-5.11.05.27

aug 10 2010,17:52:18

RUU

anybody can help me?
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abaaaabbbb63:
Flash the stock hboot first, then run a RUU. You have the cm7r2 hboot.