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[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperxguy:
I found out (after more testings) the tablet will have problem waking up when wifi is off or sleeping (when screen is off).

If you set wifi to always on, then you shouldn't have the problem. So (by default) people shouldn't have this problem,

since (I see) ROMs having wifi set to always on.

Anyway, I think it's not a Poetic problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] poompt:
I just received the poetic case and the wake/sleep definitely has a design issue. When I put the device in the wrong way (face up but spun 180 degrees so all the buttons and camera are covered), it works pretty consistently but I can't make it work at all when the device is inserted properly. I think this is because the sensors are on the left side of the device, but the magnets are only on the right side of the cover, and they're oriented incorrectly to signal the device when it's inserted correctly anyway.

Otherwise I like the quality, but unfortunately I really don't want a cover with no auto-wake.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] stab244:
Get a replacement. It should work.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] poompt:
Yeah they emailed me back already.

Looking at reviews on Amazon it seems that it's a problem in a minority of cases.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jhom52:
I received the moko ultra slim case today. The fit is excellent and the sleep/wake cover works fine. I can use my Samsung qi charger with the cover on without problem. The cover lifts easily and lays flat along the plastic edge of the case. I don't have experience with the poetic case, but I see no reason why I would have any remorse buying the moko. I don't know how long the case will wear over time but for $2.99 I think I got a good deal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jhom52:
The sleep/wake cover on the Moko works every time. It turns on within a second of lifting off the cover. It doesn't turn on if you try peeking into the case by just lifting the metal tab section. This is good and what I would expect and want.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] thatdudebutch:
Got the moko case. Not sure what the hype was about, kind of cheesy and flimsy in my opinion
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] cheesemaker99:
When the tablet is connecting with Wifi, the Poetic Case work perfectly on the sleep/wake function.

Can somebody test out Moko case without connecting wifi, wait 1 minute , then open the cover to test the wake up function. Let us know the result.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] tsupersonic:
Odd mine doesn't work regardless of WiFi status... I'll be getting a new case
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] drsky125:
Same here. Regardless of WiFi status, my case has never worked.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jhom52:
Ok, I turned off WiFi. Waited a minute and when I lifted the cover, the N7 didn't turn on. However, when I waited another minute, lifting the cover consistently turned on the N7.

Update: After I finished typing this reply, opening the lid with the WiFI off has led to a delay in turning on the N7. There is about a 2-3 second delay. With WiFi on, there is the usual 1 second delay.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] player911:
My Moko
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] player911:
Buttons.

I really like the Moko case. Fits great, flap holds good, wake works, smaller camera hole, open buttons. Looks and feels great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] chumpysv:
Has anyone received both and done a comparison? I just got my poetic case and I'm underwhelmed. The plastic is creaky and both the cover flap and port cutouts are sharp and feel unfinished. Not pleasant to hold at all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
Got my Indigo colored Moko today and I love this thing. I'm actually surprised at how good the quality is - so much so that I just cancelled my order for the Poetic. I still have a similar case coming from China but I probably won't get that for awhile.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] poompt:
I got the Poetic case and it didn't wake/sleep properly, so I contacted the vendor and they sent a replacement. The replacement works perfectly, so I would conclude that there is indeed a production error that affects some but not all of the units. WiFi had nothing to do with it at all.

Now that I have a working one I really like the Poetic case, it doesn't feel cheap like some of these cases.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] HKSpeed:
did you have to ship back the defective case? if yes, do they pay to ship it back? i wonder what Poetic will do with these defective cases.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] poompt:
They have asked me to ship back the defective case, I'm going to see how much it will be and if it's more than a couple bucks I will probably ***** that it was a defective item or something.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] yentrog31:
I have used the Poetic for a week now and it is awesome. Mine doesn't smell, the auto awake works perfect with wifi on. With wifi off it's hit or miss and sometimes takes 15 secs or more to wake. It looks and feels great. I have a Moko coming soon and will check it out in a week GLTA
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperxguy:
I had the wake-up problem with Poetic. The vendor sent a replacement which didnot help with the issue. I believe it NOT a cover problem.

They originally asked me to send back the original. But later let me keeping it.

Leaving Bluetooth ON will eliminate all problem, Wifi ON will help too. So I assume this is a Google problem with some N7s.

I saw some people here said a different covers (same Poetic or others) fixes the issue ???? This would be odd.

Some people did tried different brands and said otherwise.

This would be a gray area ---> not all HW are the same, some are widely off.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] stab244:
If you think it's a N7 hardware issue, just use a regular fridge magnet and run it down the lower left. If that works then it's the cases fault.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperxguy:
So with the wifi on OR bluetooth on --> no issue

So with tab plugged in (to USB or charger) --> no issue.

So wifi goes to sleep --> delays in wake-ups (from 5sec to over a minute...)

The tab sees wake-up call, right ? So why the delays or not waking at all.

You think the magnet isn't strong enough ? By the way, a strong Fridge magnet may somehow alter the memory cells of your RAM/Storage.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jyams:
Have been using the Moko for almost a week. No regrets. Wakes every time with magnet. Folding stand is rock stable. Molded body is a perfect fit and there are absolutely no issues. My one wish would be that they would develop this case with a hand strap on the back for holding the tablet/case. I know there are cases that do that, but they are the thicker type. I got this Moko because it is THIN and lightweight. Loving it. Does what it does well. Happy camper!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] stab244:
First, magnets won't affect your storage or RAM. Unless you take a really strong one to it but then that's user error. And sometimes the tablet has hard time waking up from deep sleep. The Nexus 4 had this issue as well with sweep2wake. So it's just an issue with the cpu not ramping up fast enough.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] worldboss:
Poetic slimline ftw!

I have tried the poetic and was very pleased with the user experience, its a very good case, everything is perfect on it. I know that my tablet is secure because of this case. Also very nice for watching movies and so with the stand.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] The Holocron:
Received my Poetic Slimline yesterday. Works great. No issue with the sleep/wake functionality.

Not bad for a $5.00 case (or whatever I paid). Much much better than the $3.00 rooCASE dual view.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] senton2:
I received my poetic today. I do not have knowledge about the moko, but I need to say that it design is better than an original one. Specifically, the buttons less complicated better to press. The magnets holding the flap closed have become strong. My only gripe about these cases may be the flap material. I wish it absolutely was high quality. Something that may create a positive change is that if the side with the flap felt more finished. It just feels sharp and cheap, and i also wish rrt had been more rounded.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] cudo:
Poetic is great!

I have poetic on my 1st gen nexus 7, the second gen is on it way..I am gonna get Poetic for it as well..especially when I hear the quality build is better.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I have both and I actually like the poetic one more it just feels premium. The moko feels more flimsy and didn't hold the tablet as tight although that can be a good thing. Till I figured out how to take the poetic off it was hard to get the tablet out and it would pull the back of my tablet off.

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Knolly:
I've had the Moko for a couple of weeks and just got the Poetic today. The Poetic is 100% better.

Moko has one magnet and the cover is kind of flimsy, Poetic has multiple and holds the cover on rock-solid.

Moko has a bit too much slack in the "hinge" that adds to flimsiness. Poetic is perfect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Seamonkey79:
I have both and the Poetic seems to be far better. The Moko had some wake issues, don't have that, I didn't like the metal tab, that's gone, the buttons have a bit of separation with the plastic surround, easier to control by touch, sits flatter while closed, feels like better material.

Just my $0.02

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Agree 100%

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] kcchen:
I've got both as well.

Personally prefer the Poetic since it's slimmer and preserves the thin form-factor. I like the hard plastic back. And the fold-over cover is more functional in my mind. The fault I find is the prominent logo on the cover, PU leather... And lastly when the cover is folded back flat, using the swipe keyboard feature produced sporadic jumping around on the screen resulting in odd placement of words. Maybea result of the magnetic cover (yes, I have the recent update).

The Moko was nice, but the thickness and bulk was disappointing. It essentially triples the overall thickness.

I'm giving the Poetic case a shot, but still like the OEM Travel Cover... go figure. :)

Update: The Poetic logo comes off, as my wife found out. But the rubbery layer of the cover is thin and can come off with the letters... As a I found out. :( Oh well. I'll continue to give the cover a chance. I have a similar Nilikin cover on order. If all else fails, I may try to cover with a thin sheet of real leather.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] The Holocron:
Can you expand on that?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
When I take it off I first push back the top left corner then the top right corner. Then the bottom will just slide out.

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
Is the Poetic really that much slimmer? I really like my Moko so I actually ended up cancelling my order for the Poetic. But if the Poetic is that much slimmer, I might rethink that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] kcchen:
So I think there my be a second version of the Poetic. The version I have has a hared plastic back and what looks like the iPad smart cover... The cover is thinner than the Moko, due to the lack of padding. The padding allows for the ridges that allows the Moko case to function as a stand.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
Oh you're talking about an entirely different Moko case then.

We're referring to this one:

http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Google-N...&sr=8-1&keywords=moko+ultra+slim+nexus+7+2013

I think you're talking about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Google-N...743496&sr=8-2&keywords=moko+slim+nexus+7+2013
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] tsupersonic:
Well I emailed Poetic, and the guy told me to toggle Bluetooth/WiFi. I told him it didn't work, and haven't gotten an email back. The case is freaking defective. To make matters worse, the Moko case has arrived in my hometown, but freaking USPS says delivery is on Saturday. Why the lag time? I hate when stuff is mailed through DHL then handed off to USPS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
They are just about the same to me is just the poetic just feel much sturdier in your hands.

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] cubsfan61:
I have both cases and prefer the build quality of the poetic. I've had zero problems with the nexus waking when opening the case. The problem I'm having is that EVERY time I fold the cover back against the back of the case, it turns the nexus off, as if I'd closed the case. Something funky is going on with the magnet arrangement. I often fold back the cover to read books and play games.

It doesn't sound like everyone is having this problem, so hopefully poetic can send me a replacement (without requiring me to pay to ship mine back) and this we be fixed.

Kevin
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] yakitori2:
Yeah..Im not getting that problem with my poetic. Sounds like a replacement is in order.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yea I'm not having that problem either. Like the above poster said I would get a replacement.

GO CUBBIES :cool:

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] kcchen:
You're right. I've got my Moko cases mixed up.

Sorry for the misinformation.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Benjamin150:
Here's a quick video I did on the Poetic case!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPVZLK76DUs
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] tsupersonic:
I got the Moko case and sleep/wake functions properly. I am getting frustrated at Poetic. They better send me a replacement! Still have not heard from them :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] ramdyc:
I bought the moko for one reason, the logo on the front of the poetic case looks so lame to me. Like something a 15 year old goth girl would have.

As for the moko, I can confirm that it does fit a little loosely. That's my only complaint.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] yentrog31:
Quality review man, subbed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Cygnust:
Hi,

anyone knows where I could buy the poetic slimline for shipping to France ?

I also read a few reviews telling the magnets are so strong that they mess with google maps (north is relevant)

Can anyone confirm ?

Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] tchoukito:
Yes Amazon UK:

32€ for the Poetic + france Delivry (5 to 10 Days)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00E5NOXM4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
They don't mess with my Google maps.

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DonMigs85:
Is there a risk of the metal clasp on the Moko scratching the screen? It's scary to think
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] just_visiting:
You should give the Nillkin V-series a look. It has magnets to keep it close properly but the magnets are not visible.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
No...the lip is slightly raised so the clasp is never in contact with the screen. But if you're really worried about it, you can always put a small piece of electrical tape over the inside of the clasp like I did. After using it, I don't really think it's necessary but better safe than sorry.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Jaxione:
Hi!

I have the poetic slimline case and Im very pleased with it. Just a few details the could have done better. Like the quality feel in the power and volume button area where the plastic is very thin and creaky. But otherwise its a very good case.

Br J
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] stanglifemike:
I was originally planning to get the Poetic Slimline case, but I couldn't find it available in all white, so I went with the Moko UltraSlim. I have zero complaints about it, and absolutely LOVE it!

As previously asked - The metal magnet/tab on the front flap does NOT come in contact with the screen. You could just leave the plastic film, that wraps this tab when it's shipped, over it if you're worried about it. Or, a screen protector will also take care of this if you're concerned about it. I think a SP is a must on any touch screen device anyway, so having this case has nothing to do with me installing a SP. I just got my Ghost Armor SP(FINALLY available, as Ghost Armor is the only brand SP that I'll use!!) in the mail yesterday and I'm going to put it on within the next few hours, but I've been using the Moko case for over a week without a SP and I can assure you that it causes no problems at all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] smellyfungus:
Just here to throw in my input. Originally got the Moko case which seemed nice then saw the video comparison on Droid Life and decided to try out the Poetic case, I'd return which ever one was worse.

Used the Moko for a week, only have had the Poetic for a day and am gonna say it is far far better. I wasn't a fan of the Poetic logo when I saw in in the images but in person its actually clean/slick looking. The Moko clasp actually attracts a ton of finger print marks.

The overall feel is much sturdier and premium on the Poetic, its something you won't realize til you have it. I think I have the latest version in which they use two magnets instead of three and the fit and such is adjusted. I like that the case fits flush rather than slightly protruding like the Moko does (watch the droid-life review if you don't understand what I'm referring to). The other thing about the dual magnets is it holds the flap in much better than the Moko. So while the Moko is easier to flip open it also has the tendency to be a bit too loose for my liking. Also a major difference is when folding the flap back. The Poetic sits back almost perfectly and is easy to hold. The Moko has a little excess and is a bit awkward to hold with the flap flipped back.

So if you have to get either case I'd get the Poetic for sure. The only issue I had was that there was a little glue or something on the back that was a bit of a pain to remove but now that its gone there aren't really any flaws.

As far as wake/sleep go, I think the issue is the same with all the cases where WiFi has to be enabled and so on.

Waiting on my Portenzo case for two weeks now, we'll see if it actually is significantly better than these low cost cases.

I know others have already said get the Poetic but I wanted to reaffirm that so you make the right choice the first time unlike me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
So is the latest version of the Poetic not too tight like the 1st version was?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] smellyfungus:
I actually received both the old and new version at the same time for some reason, didn't expect the new one since they said to expect it around the 20th. Haven't tried the old version but just tried snapping it out the new one and its slightly tighter than the Moko but didn't require much extra effort for to remove from the case. Snaps in easily also.

No complaints so far.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I have all three and the Portenzo blows away the poetic and Moko. You will love the Portenzo and its worth the extra money. The hand made aspect of it is what makes it feel so premium and sturdy unlike the mass produced case we are used to. Btw I agree with your whole review the poetic is much better than the Moko.

>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] habylab:
My screen is completely scratched from the Moko.

The two magnets have come out, too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] lotherius:
I have to say, I am a little bit (only a little) disappointed in the Poetic case for the 2013 N7..

I say that because I have the exact same case for my 2012 N7 and bought the 2013 version based on that.

It seems the case for the 2013 is a little bit... flimsy .. by comparison.

It doesn't snap to the tablet as tightly - that's probably due to the thinner 2013 model? Ok...

There are only 2 magnets on the 2013 where the 2012 had 3. The three magnets gave a VERY solid feel to the close of the cover, which isn't there on the 2013.

The plastic thickness of the fase on the right side (where the volume/power is) is also thinner on the 2013 model. It's like they were trying to match the thinness of the tablet by thinning down the case. That's disappointing because I liked the solid feel of the 2012 case.

I've also noticed that if I've folded the cover into a triangle (as a stand or handle), it doesn't unfold flatly against the front of the tablet. It stays buckled a little bit, which in fact allows the screen to stay on after the cover has been closed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bso44:
My Moko is still going strong. Pretty much the same as the day I got it which was about 9-10 months ago.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] habylab:
Lucky...

Sent from my SlimKat Galaxy S3. Was a proud Googy Beta tester.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] habylab:
Hi there guys,

I just got a Light Blue Poetic, and am impressed by the cutouts and how flush it is to the device. I did have a Moko, but the two magnets cracked and so have part of the case over a 8 month period.

But, it only has a magnet centre and bottom, whereas I have seen three in reviews. Also, when folded back it does not stay in place unless I do not touch it. Nothing like the Moko in that sense.

I heard they altered design, have I got the altered design or an old one?

Has anyone ordered a black one recently for example, from Amazon uk even, and can tell me how many magnets they have and how easily it folds back?

Currently returning my Moko case, and will be with this Poetic. I just need to decide whether to risk ordering another Poetic but maybe in black, or just get a Moko.

Thank you!

EDIT: Just read I have a revised one apparently. Well, one magnet at the back is rubbish. Returning for a Moko.

Now, I got my Moko replacement. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE. Gone is the metal clasp that looked stylish and kept the stand in place, and now the design is just a bad copy of the Poetic. Hate it, works far worse than the Poetic.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jfriend33:
My moko case is freaking awesome. It fits perfectly with or without a full body protector. It's the revised edition. Purchase Dec 2013.

It lays perfectly flat. Magnets are very strong.

However at two weeks it cracked on the side. They gave me a full refund. I decided to superglue the loose magnet and it's been just fine since.

I am noticing a little oil darkening on the light gray. I wish the whole thing was solid black.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] jrk190:
I ordered one for the Original Nexus 7, and then sold my 2012 for a 2013, the case I got for the original had the metal clasp, while the new one I got from amazon looks like it won't... I'm still sticking with it though, looks nice.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] androidfan34:
hi,

i got a phone that hasnt been tampered with yet and i would like to try cm7 but also be able to go back to the default rom.

first of all, can i still use whatsapp from the google market after doing this?

second, am i looking at a "x10 mini pro" and is it compactible with the software im planning to use:

http://s11.postimg.org/m35z5v8wj/IMG_0245_1.jpg

says u20i - is that first or second generation mini pro? ive read that there are different versions from this phone

----

since this is my first "upgrade" to cyangenmod i woud like to ask if this is the "big picture":

1. root device

2. install recovery program

3. install cyangenmod

is this the correct order?

----

now on to the already existing documentation,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1587177

this guide lists quite some options on how todo "things", keep in mind the target is: cm7 with the option to easily go back to the stock firmware

as far as i know there are 2 options

1. xrecovery

2. clockworkmod recovery

which one do you prefer or does only one work on my device?