yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] leslie lee:
I did as what u said. Change WINCE to small letters"wince". It works.

In regional settings I saw the difference.

Question: Must we load chinese software eg. Penpower, CE Star, Monster chinese for it to work?Then only we can received and send sms in chinese..etc..Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
ahhh i was too sleepy last night....

had to reflash to 1.50i again because i ran out of space on 1.60a

anyways i couldnt see chinese in regional settings when i was on 1.60a but now that i check again i see it in 1.50i =)

and thx to the peeps that replied about my stupid question regarding area code and thx one again to asukal for the wince.nls file

i upped fontpatch to xda developers ftp since i cant attach it to here...

so get it from there if you need
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
ohh ohh and the pics as promised
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
ok i trieed attaching but it doesnt work so here is the patch for traditional chinese with wince.nls updated

someone wanna give it a try? works on 1.50i and 1.60a tested by me

ftp://xdaupload:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Himalaya/Uploads2005/fontpatch.cab
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] wangtele:
I am unable to alter the area in ROM of 1.60a edition.

Excuse me, who has succeeded.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
download fontpatch and install it

soft reset when its done installing then it will work
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] henrylim:
Wince.nls not working on 1.60a...

Hi,

I am using WM2005 v1.60a, and I have installed fontpatch.cab.

I've doublechecked the /Windows directory and found wince.nls updated to 1.13 MB.

After the soft reset, I checked the region settings and there are no region for Chinese...etc.

Did I miss out any specific steps?

Many thanks for helping!

New update: I've downloaded the "China patch" and understands that fontpatch.CAB and ChinaPatch.CAB can be combined rather effortlessly.

The one and only problem is that it doesn't work for me. Region settings still do now show Chinese region.

If someone has it working fine, perhaps we can compare the differences in the registry and find out what else need to be tweaked for v1.60a?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
try the new 1.60b

i just flashed to it and installed the fontpatch i upped

i still get to choose regional settings to be chinese (hk sar)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] henrylim:
Re: Wince.nls not working on 1.60a...

Alrite...after further testing...I've to take my word back.

After much careful reading of the threads, I realize I have the same problem as AzN_devil. I can't see Chinese region settings.

This makes me assumed that fontpatch wasn't working. In fact, I tested with a Word mobile document with chinese text, and it could display the chinese text very well.

I guess my problem is that I can't continue to read Chinese text within CHM and CE readers anymore. Somehow, they remains a bunch of gibberish.

Any ideas to resolve this, anyone?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] henrylim:
Hi AzN_devil

great news!!!

does it read Chinese ebooks real well now?

I'm tried MicroOLAP CHM reader and Fast CHM reader, neither which show me good decent Chinese text.

Back in W2003SE and using Maction Monster Chinese, it used to be ok.

Please advise, many thanks!!! :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
ahh i dont know...i dont read ebooks in my xda2...

i only sleep on the bus and when im at home i use my pc =p

but anyawys..im trying to get the font file to be on storage card because its too big and it eats 1/4 of the main storage which is bad
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
fonts and wince.nls / font registry from WM5.0 SDK

i upload the wince.nls and font(ac3 font) and font regstry from WM5.0 SDK.

Please make them to study.

Regarding the unreconizde on 1.6a, did you soft reset with soft wear or using stylas as previous version?

If you reset with Stylas, the changing of registry or system is not effect.

Just for your refference.

http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/S-China.zip 2.4MB

Set of font and registry and nls for Simple Chinese

pls check the registry file in it before import. the chinese chalactor in one line of registry entry is not corect, write it Song in chinese! if you lik...

http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/t-china_set.zip 4.21MB

Set of font and registry and nls for Traditional Chinese

pls check the registry file in it before import. the chinese chalactor in one line of registry entry is not corect, write it Mingliu in chinese! if you lik...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Jaron:
Hi guys i managed to get the Chinese reading and writing capabilities by installing the FontPatch.cab by chotty. His website is at http://chotty.ys168.com/

After installing u can get the Maction SIP and now u can read and write chinese anywhere! Oh by the way my rom is 1.60b_96WWE
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
encoding IE and Inbox CJK+Thai language with one wince.nls

All of asian guys and those who loves asia!

Now i got made one [wince.nls] which can be supported

all of far east 2 byts language in Pocket Internet explore and e-mail inbox!

Of course it is for WM5.0!

i am very glad to tell you this!

i workd fot this for weeks!

*Simple Chinese

*Traditional Chinese

*Japanese

*Korean

*Thai languages

Now i have to pack my bagage for the flight to Germany!

Enjoy guys!

Asukaly yours!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
Thanks so much.

Great work!!!!!!!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
Does anybody get these files working on the BA WM2005?

I tried many times but not successful........
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
replacement of nls...

my friend also fialed it, ando i also tested with Himalaya with another version of WM5.0. it couldnt.

Also Jasjar i got yseterday, cant work!!

it was replaced, but couldnt effect!!! :cry:

big problem! with out this, we have no way to encode Jasjar!

Talking about chinese, you had better wait for the Dopod-Universal instead of Jas Jar or O2 with english!

But we japanese guys....no way!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] AzN_devil:
wow...nice....thx

thank you for your good work i was sick of installing huge font crap...

but now im back on 1.50 so i dont need to worry about space =)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
but i can replace on my himalaya WM5.0 h....

Why???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
Monster Chinese 5.0!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys,

Monster Chinese issued the latest version for WM5 device that should include regional setting and fonts but eventually does not include regional setting..............too bad

http://www.mactiontech.com/download_monster_chinese.htm
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: Monster Chinese 5.0!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for your bad new :cry:

i thought Monstar Chinese or CE Star were our last hope to enable encoding.

we can learn and find the way how to replace nls file from those soft.

But this news make me blue............. :?

How should we do........
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
I sent an email to Maction and ask for this.

Hopefully, they will have a fix very soon......... :?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
re Monstar Chinese for WM5.0,

i checked it.

it has reginal setting file WINCE.NLS in the windows folder.

original wince.nls was 283kb, replaced WINCE.nls by Monstaer chinese was 1.3MB.

But not effected like my wince.nls.

Is it coz of security? or some kinds of Signature??

hope some boday solve it!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
Some people said it:s because the wince.nls file was copied to RAM not actually with the ROM (although it looks like the file was replaced).

The solution is to use linux to combine the ROM with the updated wince.nls (I have no idea how????)

Anyway, what we can do is only to wait...........
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
on the Universal -Jasjar, some kinds of CSB files which are about to install windows folder and change some registry was rejected by os due to the OS securities,

Spetialy the CABs we made ourselves were almost rejected.

But i get the solution of breaking through this securities,

and make CAB which can be installed Fonmt and font registry also wince.nls(but still OS ignore this nls files)into Jasjar.

Please use this cab for Jarjar to enable see the chinese.

But not function encoding IE and Inbox yet.

http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/Minglu5.zip (5MB)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Would like some additional info please

Hi Asukal,

Many thanks for working on the Asian language encoding project. I am wondering if you can be a bit more specific what the CAB file you posted can do. You mentioned that IE and Inbox encoding is still problematic. Does that mean at least we can view Chinese on Jasjar in other programs (e.g., Outlook, SMS) after installing the cab file? Would we be able to input Chinese after installing one of the IMEs like Monster SIP?

Regards.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: Would like some additional info please

Morning here!

1;Monstar SIP and Penpower can working with this.

2;also working ;SMS and Offcie Aplli and PIM on jasjar such like Contact, Note ,word mobile, exle, complitly (i think :lol: )

(e-mail in Inbox, you can use UTF-8 code, you can recieve and send chinese----for receiving e-mail GB / Big also asain to UTF-8 automaticaly)

*in IE, if the a chiese web site used UTF-8, it can been discribed, but GB and Big page, can not.---but i didnt tested all pages, so not surely perfect)

3;The 3rd party chinese soft ware also can work on this, but if that API needs some encoding from wince.nls, it can not use correctly.

E-mail client or Internet browse--like Netfron, can install and use, but can not encoding to Chinese.

those are things I know now. because I didint test all of Chinese software.

So i suggest you try it with your favorite chinse soft ware to know that.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mazinka:
Asukal,

As you said, my Himalaya also tested with same result. All program work fine in chinese but the IE can't.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
the only solutions of Chinese (also japanese :lol: ) WEB site,

*I use "Opera Mini" (for GSM Phone) on Midlet

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=148282#148282

*screen shot available here

(just ignore some japanese letters, pls see the Shots)

http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/7227776.html

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Or "Opera" For MS Smart Phone(need some modify)

Please see follows

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=157596#157596

http://xdaforums.com/files/operachinese.jpg

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

*Also "Minimo" (Mozila for PPC) worked,but speed is too slow, and size is too Big to use!

http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/7003687.html

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I thinks "Opera Mini" is the best solution now,

Not only Size and speed are good enough, but also cracked!

(both of Opera and Opera Mini can not Post with chinese to BBS,,,,i dont know why :roll: )
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] 85n280:
CE-Star has WM5 evaluation version

Mobem, a Beijing based company, has Windows Mobile 5.0 version of CE-Star out.

Not on their website but I got an eval copy after exchanging emails with their support site (I am a paid customer).

I tried Monster for WM5.0, but when I use it, every application blanks out in white, such as Messaging or Internet Explorer whether or not there is Chinese in the document.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CE-Star has WM5 evaluation version

wow!

How bout the encoding IE????

can it effect wince.nls???

Where can i get??

i also paied customer of that! :lol:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] 85n280:
CE-Star WM5

Just checked it, does not affect wince.xxx, (cannot get Chinese in regional settings), cannot get Chinese in IE application.

By the way I am using JASJAR. Before this phone my phone was a HTC Windows 2003 Smartphone. Forgot the code name but in USA it is called Audiovox SMT 5600. In that phone I had same problem as JASJAR -- Chinese fonts worked except in IE.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CE-Star WM5

thanks for your P-message, i got same result.............

one of my friend, re-make the ROM image with japemase wince.xxx,

then flash it back to Smart Phone.Dopod

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Gzh/20050918

we have to take the same way to reflash it back to Jasjar.

now we can get the engllish rom for jarhar,

We will try to our best to do it, but memory aloaction of WM5.0 still have mistry. need someboday expose its seacret!

ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/

**　uni_cdl-me_11238_132_10301_ship.zip

relative neews fot this

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4352.html
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: CE-Star has WM5 evaluation version

Hello,

I emailed msupport@mobem.com a couple of times regarding WM5 version of CE-Star but have not heard anything back. Is there another email address I could use? I am too a paid customer.

In a couple of days I will get a Jasjar and would love to be able to install CE-Star.

Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] 85n280:
Re: CE-Star has WM5 evaluation version

Hi,

Not sure why you're not getting a response. I'm not sure the release is public yet--the program is buggy however and not materially any better than the .cab file above. (the key for me is that IE will not show in Simplified Chinese simple web sites like baidu.com).

It seems they are very close to a stable release though which is why they may be waiting to reply to you...let's keep our fingers crossed!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] 85n280:
CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

FROM MOBEM

===============

Hi,

Today we proudly announces CE-Star for Windows Mobile 5 is released. It is the first and only true localizer for Windows Mobile 5.0 devices in the world. It comes with our invention DynaNLS technology to enable your WM5 device to view and write Chinese and Japanese in all applications.

To get the product and get more information about it, please visit:

www.mobem.com/products/cestarwm5.php

The current version is Beta3. We will release the final version within this month. Thanks for your patiences and support!

Best Regards,

Mobem Sales
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

Thats Great! works encoding on IE / regional setting / Inbox! Great!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] csc6361:
CESTAr 2.8 work on 1.6C????
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] magix1999:
Re: CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

Using a Dell Amix x51v with WM5, and just installed CE-Star Suite II, but am getting a "AcitvateDevice failed, code 64a hex."

Any suggestions?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] magix1999:
Re: CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

Also, Asukal, would it be possible for you to post the WM5 Japanese wince file? I have the emulator file, but not the visual studio to extract the file.

Appreciate your help!

Brandon
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mwang:
CE-Star worked with my O2 Exec it look great.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

i uploaded japanese wince.nls before in this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=136600#136600
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: CESTAr 2.8 for WM5 now available

Hello all,

I wonder if other users of CE-Star 2.8 have experienced this. I find it from time to time that the Chinese input method (handwriting recognition) mode would not pop-up. Usually a soft reset would solve the problem. By the way I do not have a lot of extra software installed.

Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ngorar:
same problem

i have the same problem as well.... actually, the chinese ce-star keyboard and penpower never shows up since i registered it... it can show chinese without any problem on IE/Outlook/sms/every where... but it just can't input chinese... what a buggy software...

do you have any idea to solve this problem? tks and rgds
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] oddyseus:
I want to try the software. Could u upload it? I use WM 5 1.60c WWE on my lovely XDA II
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: same problem

I sometimes am able to get the pen input going but so far have not found any specific pattern. I usually try soft reset, and/or unloading a today plugin (I have PocketBreeze and iLauncher).

Hope others can provide a bit more insight.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
You can download a trial copy from:

www.mobem.com
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] oddyseus:
I've got it and try it and got the same prob, can't input chinese. IT DOES A BUGGY SOFTWARE......."
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] oddyseus:
Is it because i use Win Mobile 5.0 1.60c WWE??? Does anyone succeed in inputing the chinese (Pin Yin)? Pls share.......
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
@the mobem rereased new and final version for WM5.0

http://www.mobem.com/

but i didnt test it yet, improved or not. hope so....

@Monstar SIP(just SIP) can working on my device.

Himalaya WM5 1.5h and Jasjar also.

PLS Dont use [monster chinese], use [monstar sip]

Monster SIP V4 怪獸輸入法

http://www.mactiontech.com/big5/download_1.htm

@also PLUM SIP(chinese Ping Ying with like a T9)

http://www.new-e.net/

@i also have one Ping Ying input.(for only QVGA device)

Veru symple imput method, but working on WM5.

PLS test it!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
CE-Star etc.

Thanks Asukal for the information on other SIP's.

I suspect we are having trouble with CE-Star's SIP because of the memory limitations with WM5. If I unload various today plugins I have I am usually able to use the handwriting SIP as well as the pinyin SIP. Currently I have three today plugins (citytime, alarm today, and iLauncher), and am still able to use the handwriting recognition SIP from CE-Star.

I also tried the PlumSIP. It won't load with the existing today plugins I have but once I removed all those three plugins I am able to load PlumSIP.

BTW, mobem seems to have only 2.8 Beta 4 for WM5. I could not locate a final version yet. I understand changes from Beta 3 to Beta 4 were related to SIP and memory management.

Have not tried Monster SIP myself - is that more memory efficient in your judgment?

Regards.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CE-Star etc.

i agree the Today Plug-in and SIP got confricts om memory loading.

Such like a bug in the age of PPC2002.

My friend Mr,Gzh created a small utility, named SIPz.

put this sipz.exe or its short cut from program files on to windows\startup folder, all sip will be loaded on to memory with next booting.

So SIP can switch after use this (not perfect, but much better)

But also suggesting use not so many Today Plug-in.

Monstar SIP is not so bad, very simple and not so heavy.

One of my favorite SIP.

SIPz(japanese web, but u can find DL link)

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Gzh/20051117#1132190776

WEB site of Mr.Gzh (Japanese site)

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Gzh/?of=3

Other utility for WM5 Universal keyboard(english)

http://www.nicque.com/PQz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: CE-Star etc.

Thanks again Asukal for the insight and additional suggestions.

I see two links for SIPz.exe. Which one should I use? Also, is there a way to load only a small number of SIP's instead of all registered ones? (For example I will be perfectly fine with just the CE-Star SIP - since I also have the physical keyboard for English ;-).

Many thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: CE-Star etc.

Asukal, hi again.

I checked the Windows/Startup directory on my Jasjar and find a shortcut called penpower so I assume CE-Star already placed itself for automatic startup when Jasjar starts. If that's the case I wonder if SIPz would be of additional value for CE-Star (I suppose it might be useful for other SIP's).

Regards.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Re: CE-Star etc.

Re-CE Star in Start up folder

this might have 2 function,

1 is the load CE Star SIP onto mamory with booting

2 is it makes exute usemynls(name was changed to others) which can

load wince.nls in Temp folder instead of original wince.nls in windows folder.(just i gessing)

and i didnt try SIPz with this. but i guess i will no problem.(no gurantte :?

also i suggest some kinds of SIP which u will not want to use should be un-registered to save memory

to un registre the SIP ,

use PocketTwaek (veru small utility on Settings)

Go to his home page,

http://tillanosoft.com/ce/index.html

and find the link for Pockettwak and you can find DL link

This utility has many usufull functions in it. Working on WM5

http://tillanosoft.com/ce/ptweak.html

install this and go to Setting--System, you can find PocketTweak ICON,

Open it and go to "Input Panel"

You can un-check SIP which you dont want to use.

But remember, do not unchek defaul "keybord" and also do not

Change "Defaul Panel" to others, "Keyboard" must be active and Defaul.

Otherwise OS will have trouble.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] PocketPC-User:
Re: CE-Star etc.

Hi Asukal,

Thanks a lot for ptweak lead. I did read elsewhere that removing some SIP's may save some memory spaces. But apparently it has not been much of a help in my case. I still could not use PocketBreeze (I only left CE-Star, Keyboard and handwriting). So I suppose PocketBreeze uses a lot of memory.

For now I have citytime, alarmtoday and iLauncher as today plugins and I am fine using the handwriting SIP from CE-Star as well as the pinyin SIP.

Best wishes to all.

[/quote]

Re-CE Star in Start up folder

this might have 2 function,

1 is the load CE Star SIP onto mamory with booting

2 is it makes exute usemynls(name was changed to others) which can

load wince.nls in Temp folder instead of original wince.nls in windows folder.(just i gessing)

and i didnt try SIPz with this. but i gue

ss i will no problem.(no gurantte :?

also i suggest some kinds of SIP which u will not want to use should be un-registered to save memory

to un registre the SIP ,

use PocketTwaek (veru small utility on Settings)

Go to his home page,

http://tillanosoft.com/ce/index.html

and find the link for Pockettwak and you can find DL link

This utility has many usufull functions in it. Working on WM5

http://tillanosoft.com/ce/ptweak.html

install this and go to Setting--System, you can find PocketTweak ICON,

Open it and go to "Input Panel"

You can un-check SIP which you dont want to use.

But remember, do not unchek defaul "keybord" and also do not

Change "Defaul Panel" to others, "Keyboard" must be active and Defaul.

Otherwise OS will have trouble.[/quote]
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
That is too bad!

Poor guy, :cry:

OK i got some information of PingYing SIPs on my site.

This site is Japanese, but you can find some captures and links.

http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/1164750.html

Make them your refference!

PS:i sent you a PM just now. chek your mail box please! :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
Now i am addapting one SIP with Pin Ying and Handwriting for Chinese.

This was from Windows CE,net device.

Almost complet, but the SIP default position is not correct,

it come to right side every opennning of SIP.

it can be draged to center or anywhere you like.

But i must fix it.

(keyboard! is not supported)

Please see the capture.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] oddyseus:
Great job Asukal! Could u upload it here? Ur the man!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chris_khho:
Great stuff!!!!

I am looking forward to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Asukal:
thanks guys!

but not yet!

Not complete it perfectry. wait for a couple of days! please!