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[Xperia Play General] niceguygamer:
Alright. The Threads About this imuch i5/s, and the threads about JXD's new s7800/5800 devices have made me make an account for this forum, i always wanted to join, and nows the time i guess. so let me share and ask some info :D. ill compare the two 5 inch devices for you :D

JXD S5800- Low res 960x540 screen. Emulation and games will be Faster due to less stress on the gpu.

- Not for reading ebooks or video watching. Iam very dissapointed with what JXD did with the screen.. in a world where 1080p screens are common, we are getting a Qhd 960x540 screen.

- Better Analog Placement.

-Custom Ui

-Phone

IReadygo Much i5/s- 1280x720 IPS Screen. Thats around a pixel density of 330 ppi. Should be Beautiful for Movies,comics,books.

-Not the best Analog Placement. especially for shooting games that require 2 analogs at the same time.

- Same Locked Ui.

-Slower Game performance Because of high res screen.

-Phone

As a hardcore gamer, the screen is enough for me to choose the Much i5. All i need to know and find out, is how it performs in games like King of fighters 2002, as i play that everyday. you have to do analog stick combos, so i wonder it the analog stick is accurate enough... not the D-pad, The D- pad will be only used for me in games like pokemon.

the Second issue i want out, is the ui, i want to be able to use custom launchers. and i hope scrolling through the menu is smooth, as i like smoothness.

Only thing holding me back, is Maybe considering the New Nexus 7. Nice to meet you all. With emulators for Dreamcast Out, theres no better time for Diving into a gaming device which is also a phone, People will turn their heads if i take this to electronic shows. its just very sleek and good looking. Sorry for the bolds, really wanted to emphasize properly. :)
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
My Much i5 will be going on ebay later today. As much as I love it, my Shield arrives today making all my other android gaming tablets obsolete. I sold my JXD S7300b and my JXD S7800b already and the Much will unfortunately follow them. I have to say though that for me the Much i5 has probably been the device I warmed to the most and would definitely recommend it to people.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
i will do the opposite. i will sell my shield and keep my much for a simple reason: i need a device for use "on the way", not "in my house".

Shield is the most powerful device for android gaming... but is a monster, literally speaking. is everything except a "portable" device that i can take from my pockets or backpack quickly, play few minutes and take it back again.

for now, i´m using GPD-G5A device and i feel most comfortable than Shield, and is smallest (biggest than Much, but handly)

another thing i don´t like from Shield is the DPAD. I don´t feel comfortable with this for, as an example, playing fighting games.

I will finish my shield review and sell it.
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
Sorry about not showing games on my MUCH i5s, I'm just having too much fun with it ;) It's an amazing phone and a worthy upgrade from the PLAY.

I will do a video on the UI of my phone soon though, I have modded it slightly using XPOSED though so it's not gonna look like this when/if you buy this thing. The video will just be UI stuff for now, showing how smooth this thing can be (No custom kernals or ROMs I can find so it's all stockish)
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
To be honest, if my missus hadn't bought me a surprise phone for Christmas then I would have kept the i5 and probably not even looked at the shield but I felt the i5 is just going to be a little wasted now with me as a standalone tablet.
[Xperia Play General] niceguygamer:
OOH that be really awesome if you can show us later on, the smoothness. and i think most of us want the ability to change the UI a little bit by installing a launcher, i wonder which ones are compatible?

Im practically sold on this device, my one last caveat, is that does this application work? "Manga Rock." Aside from that im sold.
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
All the launchers I tried work well, I use Smart Launcher Pro as it works with the controls (Will show that off later). My device is rooted with CWM installed btw.

I did a quick video just now showing Manga Rock here's the link to said video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR3lFDM0QpA&feature=youtu.be

Sorry about the quality I can't seem to get my tablet to stay focused on it.. I shall try other camera apps to get the best results ^^
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
hi guys!

i uploaded few videos with much i5 gameplays.

niceguygamer, in these gampelays i´m using DPAD for playing. ;)
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
Quick question to anyone who owns a Much i5s (although I assume it's the same for all androids)

How do I deodex this phone? I want to start to mod it and this is the only thing stopping me right now :/ I want to make it more AOSP-like or maybe try my hand at CyanogenMod on it :D gotta start somewhere though right? :) As i am taking a programming course in University right now I guess this will help there too!

Thanks muchly.
[Xperia Play General] RoboticBuddy:
I have a quick question, when you put the phone in your pocket, does the analog sticks bulge out a little, causing a small annoyance?
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
Not atall. I have the analogue sticks pointing towards me for obvious reaons and I never had any discomfort or even noticed I have analogue sticks in my pocket!

The only issue tbh is the size, its very long.. it fits in my pocket perfectly, but getting it out..sometimes the sticks do catch on my pocket..
[Xperia Play General] RoboticBuddy:
Alrighty, thank you :) and another question, sorry lol, how is the size compared to the Xperia Play itself? Is it about as big as a Note 3?
[Xperia Play General] Flaîm:
the screen is about as big as the whole xplay. hopefully this describtion is enough ^^
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
may be this help to you to get a general idea about size:
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
Yes I know it's been answered, but compared to the PLAY, it's like this:
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
The best alternative to the play is the play lol best gaming device for android. So versitile and small. I LOVED mine till the flex cable went. I had to buy the ion because I was away and needed a phone. Once I got back home I fixed it and modded it. I still like the play more lol. Lte and a bigger internal mem and id go back to it lol.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
ok. this was commented some times in this thread.

and no, i don´t agree. the best alternative for play si any current phone with controls, that have almost 1GB ram, and android 4.x

the Play is a good device, but so obsolete right now.

currently you have two real alternatives: Much i5 (and Much i5s), and JXDS5800 (and now comes the new Much G2)

in my oppinion, and i must test JXD first, but i feel that Much i5 is the best option to replace the play. (unless sony release a new play, of course)
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Well, for posting something in this thread, i uploaded some new vids about this device.

and i updated the Much i5 playlist on my youtube channel. I will update this playlist with new videos that i'll upload.

Greetings!
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Well the reason I say it is the best is not purely gaming those devices are much bigger than the play so as for the phone aspect and fitting in your pocket phonecalls etc. They are great gaming devices for android but they are more psp than phone. Ya you can make calls. Ya I suppose they function as both a phone and gaming device. But they are even less viable. Also youd have to buy pants only with huge pockets so it would fit. And even then it would stick out. If your a backpack or bag type I suppose it works. Thats my reasoning behind it anyway
[Xperia Play General] iRhyiku:
It fits in my pockets perfectly.. doesnt stick out atall :P This phone (Much i5s) has also been the talk of many-a-conversation when I go out, so theres that haha :o:o
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
Haha well la-de-da Mr Big pockets haha :p
[Xperia Play General] eddiepbauer:
Just to throw in my two cents

Replaced my xperia play with the Much i5s - the new screen and updated operating system is awesome, but I do miss being able to use the phone in a professional setting without looking awkward and unprofessional: granted, one really isn't suppose to be using a phone in the first place - but it sure made it easier to get away with while using the xperia play

Controls work great - had a bit of a learning curve with TinCore but I eventually got it working and all the buttons/joysticks work perfectly.

Volume is LOUD - even at the lowest setting - solved this by downloading the Fine Volume Control 2.0 app: turned out the stock minimum setting was at 10% and lowering it down to 1-2% made it much more usable in a quiet area.

No problem with it in my pockets and unless you're wearing the skinny jeans that seems to be the trend nowadays, you should be fine.

Did I mean the screen is just awesome? High resolution makes everything so purdy - and HDMI output makes it a joy to use on a big screen.

Overall, I do wish there was an xperia play 2 - I loved having the ability to hide the controls, but beggars can't be choosers and the much i5s is actually a great gaming phone
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
can you explain this?

did you modify the stock volume (firmware) minimum, or simply are using this app for controling minimal volume?
[Xperia Play General] eddiepbauer:
using the app - but adjusting the stock volume also shows changes in the app

the minimum stock volume setting registered as 10% in the app

with the app, i could lower the volume even further than the phone would otherwise allow with just the volume buttons :D
[Xperia Play General] lordsolrac2:
Is anyone waiting on the i8? :eek: Well, the next iReadyGO Much phone? I'm hoping it surpasses my desire for an Galaxy S5..
[Xperia Play General] sanderpunto:
Go for note 3. It has more ram for gaming ;)
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
but there is no physical controls. smartphones without physical controls are not for gaming, no matter their internal hardware, no way to use them for serious gaming. (and no, i don´t want to plug an external controller to play, except phonejoy maybe when released)
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Sorry, doble post...
[Xperia Play General] TheVicious:
I moved to Samsung S4 Zoom. Xperia Play have problem since the beginning - only 512mb ram and small place inside. I was looking for a photo camera and when I found S4 zoom i knew that this will be my next phone. It works fantastic (all games works as it should), great photos, tv remote controler. Xperia will go on sale (second Xperia Play in Poland - won from SE almost 3 years ago).

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[Xperia Play General] cyraxx84:
Have a LG Optimus G and using it with a ps3 controller and a Gameklip and it's really awesome. Although it is not really an alternative for "on the go" but for android gaming at home it's great.
[Xperia Play General] trollarc:
Android mini-PCs with regular TVs work well at home. I wish the new jxd 5 inch offerings where rk3188s and at least 1080p.

James
[Xperia Play General] ToTheBlue:
Modern emulators need to start implementing the gestures. Gestures allow near optimal control even on a touch screen. For example, the game Fright Fight is an online fighting game, and the gesture controls are perfect, allowing complete control of your character. That is something I previously thought impossible, but now that I have seen it done, there is no doubt in my mind that all genres of games can be made to work with gesture control schemes, and if applied to emulators, will allow us to play our beloved classics on a touch device with the same level of precision as a traditional controller.

In the meantime Note 3 + CM11 + PS3 controller is the best I have been able to do. Yeah it sucks, but the Note 3's hardware is the best right now (Snapdragon 800 + 3GB RAM.) Though I think I may just continue using the XP as a dedicated console since it is so small. It fits in the same pocket as my Note 3 anyways.
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
I think the only real alternative is the Much G2, but it's too big (almost like a PSP lol), the brand doesn't give me so much confidence, and I fear that stick can get broken easily.

DeenOX, do you plan to do a review of it?
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
i think Much G2 is a very interesting device, but is not focused in the same target than xperia play or much i5

Much G2 is a device that have only an analog stick (i don´t know if really is analog, but is no dpad), and 4 gaming buttons.

if you want to play most emulated games, this layout may be not enough, except for Mame games with max 4 buttons gameplay, nes, etc... but considering on playing with an analog stick.

the target of this device is most for casual gamers. This configuration is ok for most android games on the playstore. there are a lot of games that you can map virtual joystick with a maper, and most of these games uses up to 4 buttons, and those games that need to add more controls, you can use them as virtual buttons.

i mean, this device may be a very great alternative for most casual and some emulated games and may be a good choice for people that don´t want to play sophisticated games on their phone, (psx, n64, etc), but most games may be great to be played here.

examples:

mini motor racing

Need for speed most wanted

Riptide 1, 2

Asphalt 8 (Asphalt series)

Rayman games

Sonic games (including racing games)

Sine Mora

Dungeon Hunter

Soul Calibur

Virtual Tennis

Crazy Taxi

Wild Blood

lesabel

Thor

etc, etc, etc...

and of course, there are many other emulated games tha can be played with this device.

hope i can get one of them to review it and do a showcase about what this can do.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Ohhh. I was just looking at it. And it actually looks like a cool phone with gaming controls. As opposed to a portable gaming device with a phone function, like the i5/i5s.

You could actually bring it to a business meeting and not be embarrassed about it.

The still only has 1gb of ram though, and to me that probably means you'll have some newer games crapping out on you.

If talking about sneaky coolness, I'd say the g2 is looking good.

But if I had to choose between it and the i5s I would take the i5s because of the ram and d-pad. And I am used to holding a monster-mutant-phone.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
The much i5 only comes in black. If you go to a Alexpress. Com they sell the much i4 which only comes in white with a Ps vita body(picture below). But it's much more money for a slightly better pressesor but less features. So in the long run the i5 in my opinion would be a better buy.

On a side note it would be awesome to see it in white maybe in the future we'll see one.

Post any other questions you have and I'll try my best to answer.
[Xperia Play General] sewer56lol:
Any high end android phone with a DualShock 3 controller.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I feel like there is less portability with blue tooth controllers but if that's how you game then game away.

(UPDATE) I still haven't received the much I5 yet. Which is expected being so far away. Can't wait to get some hands on with it. Also this might be the kick that other companies need to make gaming phones. If they see this selling good they'll want to get in and play the field.
[Xperia Play General] wrc1010:
I get my much i5 last 2 days ago and it is awesome device because can play game and make a phone call.

Only problem I get is some of the game is not compatible with much i5 and can't install it.

So like to know is that anyone willing to come out with the custom firmware for much i5 to improve it because the from firmware either can download it and manually update or auto update inside much i5?
[Xperia Play General] |SavageD|:
I hate to say this. But it's hard to imagine talking on that i5, and this is coming from an old N-Gage (Taco Phone) user. Now that i have grown older. It's hard to picture myself pulling out that thing in a meeting or business event :/. So I hope newer game phones looks more like the Xperia Play.

A normal, good looking phone, with a pull out controller :|. I praise the design of the xperia play because of this. No one in my work place even knows it's also a game phone. The XP simply looks like...a phone. I'd imagine being laughed at uncontrollably if i was to pull that thing out in front my boss to say i'm accepting a business call.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I totally agree with you about it not being very professional looking but since I'm in college I have nothing to loose.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
like most people here i am done waiting for sony or any other major manufacturer to make a xperia play 2 or something similar so i have gone with the iReadyGO Much i5 as well

i purchased mine today with DHL express shipping which has usually been pretty fast for me, even when stuff comes from china

what method did you guys use?

and yeah, i would feel silly pulling this out in a meeting but i would just use bluetooth :o
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Just received mine yesterday. I got to say it's pretty amazing. Also it surprised me that it comes rooted.

The bluetooth idea is pretty smart I'll probably do that too. And I got mine through willgoo. Com which DHL shipping.

After I play with it more I'll make the official thead for it and post some details and my personal review.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
its good to hear your early impressions are good and that it comes rooted

im assuming you brought yours on the 19th so thats 6 days in total delivery from china to the USA, not bad

i also bought mine from willgoo, how long did it take before they dispatched it and gave your a tracking number?
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
The Much i5 is what you've been asking for!

I've been a Xperia Play 2 proponent for some time now, but I took a chance and bought the Much i5, and so far it's exactly what we all seem to be looking for. Let me briefly list some features of the Much i5 that I've seen on many Xperia Play 2 wishlists: HDMI output, actual dual analog sticks, stronger processor (quad-core), android 4.x, better game compatibility, bigger screen, not having cramped hands trying to use the Xperia shoulder buttons, etc. The only advantage the Xperia Play has over this phone is the compact size, but this is not too big and fits in your pocket pretty easily (unless you wear skinny jeans). The buttons feel sooo good and the on-screen button mapping works sooo good. I always hated how game developers had to add Xperia Play compatibility to their games, I knew they wouldn't keep up with it and they haven't. You can setup the buttons to align with on-screen buttons anywhere on the screen, so you should be able to use the built-in controls for any game that runs on the phone.

And some of the dissenters to this device have just been ridiculous, so let me clear those up: 7" devices don't compare because they are way too big to be phone replacements, and controller peripherals don't compare because it's not a single device.

And compared to previous 5" android devices before this (like the many JXDs): most haven't had phone capabilities, most haven't had significant processor upgrades like adding a quad-core chip, most don't have dual analog sticks (many have the sliding analogs like the old psp).

Considering all of this, the Much i5 is clearly to best Xperia Play alternative on the market. Got mine from Willgoo for $220 which is less than what you'd pay for a non-gaming android phone with the same specs. Not to mention, it's unlocked and rooted.

And to be fair, the thing isn't perfect. The call volume seems low, only the power button wakes it out of sleep, the analogs sticks keep the phone from being flat across the front, and its difficult to take off the back to get to the battery unless you use a credit card but you'll rarely have to do that anyway. For people worried about talking on it, it's really not that bad. From the back, it just looks like a huge phone, but I kinda like the idea of talking on a gaming device. Other people are more amazed than anything, and it has bluetooth so you can go that route for calls if you want.

So stop being scared and buy this phone. I know some of you are tied to the sliding feature, but let's be honest, how are we gonna get dual analog sticks with a sliding phone? Maybe if the phone was thicker and the analog sticks could retract into the phone? That could work, but we can't wait on Sony forever.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
They never gave me a tracking number which scared me cause I always track my packages but it came in so fast

Perfectly said dude I am honestly loving this phone and anybody who sees it wants to play with it instantly. I really think pretty soon people are going to be begging for a much i6 if you have any doubts please just try it you will not be disappointed.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
nice overview, i am glad that the few people who have much i5 really like

i really need a tracking number so if i dont get one by the weekend i guess i'll be contacting them
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Well I got the free shipping that's why mine didn't come with one as long as you paid for shipping you will get one. But yes I would contact them if you don't receive one.

PS they do get back to you fast through email. Usually within a day.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
thanks, could you let us no how well emu's run? especially ppsspp
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Yeah man of course I tested drastic ds and that works amazingly psp will be next.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Just tried out the psp emulator on it its not perfect but it's definitely playable. But even on high end devices it isn't perfect.
[Xperia Play General] wrc1010:
Can anyone play the nova3 because i getting stuck at loading time there before enter the game. Sometime it get stuck for 3-6min then enter the game but sometime not enter the game at all.

My firmware is 5.3.13. Any idea what happen?
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
So far I've tested on ppsspp: GoW Chains, Daxter, Monster Hunter 2, Megaman Maverick Hunter, Wipeout Pulse. Most work, but are just too laggy, hanging around 10-15 FPS. And Megaman gets stuck at the first loading screen. I'm not an expert on altering video settings, but most of the ppsspp video settings don't seem to help. I'll try some less 3D intensive PSP games later today. I checked a few videos of the JXD s7800 which is supposed to have better specs than the much i5 and it also only plays a few ppsspp games well so I'm not surprised. Things should get better as ppsspp improves.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
I've searched on youtube "ppsspp android xperia play" quite a few games play pretty well on that ancient device, most of them had the options altered for it to run better, once i get my I5 i will look into this further
[Xperia Play General] |SavageD|:
I like this review. But as an adult I just can't see myself using a device that looks like this in certain places (work, meetings, a date with a girl etc.) If i was younger (I'm 24 ), sure i'd have no problem using the device anywhere, no-one would care. But alas this is not the case. The xperia play could suite any situation which is one of it's biggest appeals....I'm starting to feel like a miserable old man just writing this. :laugh: