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[General Questions and Answers] t-jet:
Has anyone seen that brick of a battery charger?! What was HP thinking?

http://youtu.be/t_oTJ1uhkcQ?t=42s (I knew that unbox videos must be good for something)

Compare this to the wall charger of the transformer series:

http://www.excaliberpc.com/images/606705_1/huge.jpg

Massive setback for my decision making. I guess I'm gonna wait for the TF701T.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
i will say that it does charge really fast so not much of a setback for me
[General Questions and Answers] Angus66:
That non-USB charger was one of several reasons I returned my SlateBook x2.....
[General Questions and Answers] t-jet:
It would surprise me if it wouldn't charge fast, considering it's hugeness.

To be honest, I guess it wouldn't bother me too much while using it at home. But a (almost) laptop size charger + two long cables is too much of a obstacle to me when travelling.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
plus I liked that the cord is long and so I was not stuck near the outlet while it was charging.
[General Questions and Answers] Ultraman1966:
Judging from your sent from signature, I gather you've returned the tablet now? The new Transformer pad does look pretty good (well typical Asus quality) so I think I'll wait as well.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
Ya I returned it yesterday. I didn't wanna be stuck with it in case there wasn't going to be root available for it. I need Folder Mount to work so I can move game data to SD card as I was planning to play games on it. Can't have a fast tablet and not game on it. I had only 1gb left after all my apps and just several games. Maybe when they make the 32 gb available for U. S. I might pick it up again but the Asus Tf701 will probably be available soon and if it's priced at $499 with dock I'll go for that instead.
[General Questions and Answers] Ultraman1966:
I don't know why manufacturers are so cheap, with their bulk buying power flash storage chips can't cost more than 5 dollars for another 16GB.

What sort of games did you play on the slatebook and how was the performance?
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
I played mc4 (smooth and has extra effects), nova 3 (98% smooth and extra effects), sine mora (smooth), asphalt 8 (smooth), real boxing (smooth), walking dead assault (smooth). Might have missed one. All games played well compared to some games on my s4 which had some stutter and some took longer to load. I really like the tegra 4 performance. Hope asus doesn't disappoint
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Have they even released the source code?, second, if id doesn't have the micro USB, how ar we mounting it to teh computer
[General Questions and Answers] toanau:
I just return mine too. With no root and no development it's a no go. Beside I can't stand the charger. U need the bumb charge plug in to update any software
[General Questions and Answers] gmelfi:
How did you install asphalt 8, I coulc not from play store, it said device icompatible.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
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I backed it up from my s4 using my back up app and side loaded to the x2.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
I backed it up from my s4 using my back up app and side loaded to the x2.

So basically, just the APK?
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
So basically, just the APK?

Yup
[General Questions and Answers] McPolo:
Hi,

how do you experiment with battery? Because when docked with keyboard dock, it charges the tablet part and android thinks it is being charged and therefore you can't see from battery stats, how long screen has been on, until you unplug tablet from dock or dock looses all capasity and stops charging tablet.

I have a feeling, that the batteries do not last what they promise. What would be the best way to calculate/test it?
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Start the android timer, and leave it running. Stop it when you Are all out of battery.

It seems to be better than they promised for me, I usually charge the tablet every 2 days.
[General Questions and Answers] McPolo:
The problem is, that counter keeps running even display off. So I can't really know, how long screen has been on, which is the thing that matters more than sleep time.
[General Questions and Answers] smidra:
A couple of questions for the Slatebook owners.

Hi Slatebook owners :) I have a couple of questions before I return my Asus Infinity and buy the Slatebook instead. In case you're wondering - I hate the Infinity's speaker. I use the device for wathing movies and a single speaker blasting somewhere on the right side behind the device is useless. Even my TF101 has better sound. I read the Slatebook should be better for this... Now to the questions:

- when the slatebook is docked, are the speakers hummed? I see from the videos they go behind the keyboard, does it affect the sound? I am not expecting miracles, but at least they should be audible from both sides when docked...

- no root means no Titanium for me... does the Slatebook come with it's own backup solution that can backup apps with data?

- can you in any way change the tablet interface? I want a single system bar on the bottom, with buttons on the left, not two bars, like the Slatebook pictures show. But I guess without the root this cannot be changed, right?

Many thanks for your replies!
[General Questions and Answers] SBTlauien:
Cool stuff.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
-Sound wise, the x2 is amazing, even when docked, the volume isn't affect. I find that half volum is high enough for me, full is loud.

-No, you can look at the playstore to see other non-root apps that would do this. Other wise you can use google's auto backup and restore, as well as just copying the data for the app, i.e. Android folder.

-Yeah, this is the standard Android interface. The good thing is, in my opinion, that the android version on the slatebook is mostly untouched. And I'm coming from acer a500 which had the layout you described, but after using this newer android layout for a bit, I like it more. Besides that, when the tablet is docked, I use the keys which have back, home, and multitask on them. Very fluent once you use it for a bit.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
What is the model number that came with the USB cable? I'm contacting the Executive Customer Relations office and can only find the US model number.
[General Questions and Answers] smidra:
Thanks a lot for your reply! Glad to hear the speakers are good even when docked. I hope I will get used to the layout as well, so far there is no other option. Ok, I think I will get my slatebook to try it out :) Thanks!
[General Questions and Answers] koLESS:
all - sorry just found out this thread.. just checking, is the android is 'pure android" just like an AOSP version..? is it upgradeable to like nexus..? :confused:
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Yep, pretty much but the upgrade will have to be passed on by HP. So when 4.3 will arrive,when HP release it unless you have found a way to root the Slatebook and install non-existence custom ROMs which is the problem with this product (lack of developers support).
[General Questions and Answers] koLESS:
Thanks for explaination :) "when HP release it" is same story as my samsung tablet - cant wait then install another rom for better experience.

agreed - lack of develepor support & "popularity" as well.. :(
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
Just got a 450 meg update might want to check System updates
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
Do you know what the update did? Is there a change in build #?
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
Build number is 4.2.2-17r14-15-19 have not noticed any changes

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Did notice one thing the kindle app now works
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
Great, thanks for that. I'm still on 4.2.2-17r14-13-18. My kernel is 3.4.35+ from 18Jul13.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Who is in for calling and requesting an upgrade to 4.3. or at least letting them know we want one. I'm sure if enough people show interest in the upgrade they will push one out.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
Wow this review is exactly how I feel about the x2. Even down to the volume and power button placement. It's a good read for you that are trying to decide on this one.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...entially-good-device-with-one-unfixable-flaw/

I mentioned here about intermittent battery drain during idle sometimes and I guess he mentioned the reason for it and never realized it when I had the x2. I did however found a temporary fix which is to close all apps before I put it away and I never saw the drain come back.
[General Questions and Answers] micro2112:
Pretty great review there.. I can say i agree with 80% of his conclusion. I have no complaints about the battery life and I have never had any issues with apps FC'ing when docking or undocking.. but the camera.. that damn camera is just terrible.. skype is impossible and pictures look aweful but then i didnt buy a tablet to take pictures.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
I haven't had any issues with the camera after the update yesterday. Docking the tablet did however close some apps, or restart them. But I think that's to do with the keyboard. It happened on my A500 with a usb keyboark too.
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
I've also got a 429.5 MB update too. It's downloading at the moment and I'll post the model number when it has complete the update.
[General Questions and Answers] laj.tuxmek:
Hey, I'm new here!

Hey everyone,

I have been using XDA for quite some time and finally decided to sign up. I got the Slatebook x2 about a month ago and I love it. I can confirm that the new system update brings fixes. The Kindle app now works! The build number is 4.2.2-17r14-15-19 for those who are wondering.

Also, I found something interesting. SO it turns out that my keyboard dock battery was screwy and wouldn't charge, so HP sent me a replacement. I will be sending back my defective unit so they can diagnose it. The interesting part is that the screen of the replacement Slatebook has improved color temperature. My new unit doesn't have the ugly yellow tint! I wonder if HP changed the backlight unit in this newest batch. I will attempt to attach a picture so show this. The new unit is on the left, old unit on the right. The difference is much more noticable in person.
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
Interesting comments on potentially a different batch. I also have just received the new load (-15-19); it does provide some confidence that HP are continuing a process of software improvement; who knows how far that will extend (4.3?). Subjectively, my x2 seems brighter since the update; not sure whether this is bogus or not...need more time to assess. Regardless, I'm not hard over on being disappointed on the screen; its not fantastic, but its not terrible. One thing for sure...its fast and the software is generally vanilla AOSP. The brick is annoying me; I'm away at the moment...it would be much nicer to have a USB interface, even with a proprietary cable (like all the Asus Transformers). Not root and no community dev support is disappointing; although the AOSP-like experience is close to what I would have on a CM ROM.

But on the bright side...I am sitting here typing on my x2, watching videos and playing games with no lag; those people waiting for the new Asus are not, and will most likely wait for quite a while longer.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Yeah, but they didn't copy asus. They went a different way. HP knows how to make PC. This isn't a tablet with a keyboard dock, its a PC that can be used as a tablet. Hench, the use of power brick that is common on laptops.
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
You're right, they didn't copy; the x2 keyboard is much nicer than my TF201, and the AOSP experience is better than the Asus overlay. But I have to say that Asus set the benchmark for quality. HP porked the screen and the dock interface is just poorly designed; mine wobbles back to front, and when closed the tablet and the dock separates, leaving a gap. Doesn't impact function, but its just poor design.

As for for calling it a PC, I don't buy it. For me, a PC is a Windows machine. Android is great for basic stuff; I have Office Suite 7 on my x2, but its no MS Office. I still do all my serious work on my laptop.

Again, the power brick is lazy design; my old TF201 had a 5V/15V compact adapter that connected to a USB chord, with a proprietary connector. I could charge or connect to my computer; there's no reason why HP couldn't do the same.

I like my x2, but there are certainly deficiencies that HP could have avoided.
[General Questions and Answers] Angus66:
I'm interested in the image you posted but the link seems to be broken... :(
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Finally! Just got my 64GB Slatebook!

I'm happy to report that I've finally received my 64GB version Slatebook. So far, I'm enjoying it. Screen is a tinge of yellow. It does not really bother me. What's important is the function and mobility it gives for my work.

I did have a problem with my SanDisk 64GB microSDXC. It seems that the Slatebook does not recognize it, either in the Tablet or the Dock. It did recognize a SDHC card, but not microSDXC. I know from previous posts of others who said they've had success, so it's frustrating since I was readying the card for it. Could this be the format of the card? Any advice would be appreciated.

I plugged in my Toshiba Canvio 1TB External HDD and it recognized it in a flash. Played MP4 movies from the HDD with no problems and no lag at all.

Aside from the microSDXC problem, there isn't much else to complain about. Battery life is like what everyone else said. Wish it was better, but I'll live.
[General Questions and Answers] laj.tuxmek:
Whoops. Sorry about that. It was working when I first posted it...let's try again. The new one is on the left, both at full brightness. It certainly is more noticeable in real life.
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Whoops, forgot to post the build number. It's 4.2.2-17r14-15-19 - same as laj.tuxmek.

I still haven't use it much but I'm taking it with me for a month long oversea trip tonight so no doubt I'll be using it comprehensively during that period of time.

BTW - laj.tuxmek - is there any hints of a yellow tint on your replacement device at all? I don't see it on the photo your posted but the yellow on the previous didn't look that much noticeable either. Also how is the brightness?

cheers
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
64gb cards

I use an 64GB microSDXC from Samsung. Stock it couldn't be recognized by the slatebook either. I had to format the card with TWRP on my tf700 (i beleive it used fat32 FS). only then it recognizes the card and works well with it. Only thing about FAT32 is, that you can't store files >4GB on it.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Thanks. You are right. I did that today and it recognized. It had to be FAT32 format. That's the bummer. Can't store FHD movies larger than 4GB.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
I am thinking his motherboard on his slate is different and we have this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2402681&page=11 that's why we don't have then data cable sorry pic of cable did not show up
[General Questions and Answers] laj.tuxmek:
The color temperature is cetainly still warmer than most devices I have encountered (but then again, most devices have overly cool color temperatures), but it is noticeably cooler than my old device. There is a tiny hint of yellow, but you really wouldn't notice it unless you were really focusing on it. Full brightness seems to be about the same. Also, I have already sent my old unit back to HP, so I am not able to make direct comparisons anymore. But I'll just say this - the first thing I noticed about the new device was the cooler screen temperature. It was instantly recognizable.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Another thing i am thinking about. Does anyone of you know a way to manipulate HPs update file or extract their signing key. E.g for inserting su binaries to it.
[General Questions and Answers] koLESS:
hi - can anyone tell me how touchpad work on this slatebook..? would it cursor appear when u touch / move around..? (remember my old PDA that having on screen cursor for touchpad) :laugh:
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
Nope only time you see a cursor is when you use a mouse with it
[General Questions and Answers] koLESS:
i see - so when do we plug external USB mouse - u'll only see cursor around..?
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
Are you sure? The cursor showed whenever I touch the touch pad and goes away if I don't touch the pad after a few seconds. Unless I misunderstood the question.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
Whoops touchpad as well shows how much I use it use a mouse all the time
[General Questions and Answers] qbaRRo:
yellow tint

Hi. Could you please confirm the exact model of your new, replaced slatebook (h000ea, h000sa or h001ea). Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] Mikael R:
Still no way to root? Thinking of you can get the developers menu, with the option to enable USB-debugging... Has to be there for some reason, right?

If (only if) we can get it to mass-storage (thinking if it's possible to connect a male usb to the port and a male usb to the computer, or this might not work?

Has anyone tried to use one of the standard "one-click root" methods? Would be really nice just to get the root-access to be able to install some specific apps (titanium backup and such)...

Really pleased with the device otherwise, and I have no "yellowish" white color, the white is white, nothing else. European version with 32GB of memory.
[General Questions and Answers] qbaRRo:
Hi. which wersion is it? h000ea, h000sa or h001ea??

I really dont want to buy one with this yellow tint...
[General Questions and Answers] Mikael R:
H001eo it says on the box at least!
[General Questions and Answers] laj.tuxmek:
The bottom of the tablet says h032xx.
[General Questions and Answers] qbaRRo:
Thanks mate. Where did you get it from if I may ask
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
You should think about taking a device from somewhere else, because of the keyboard layout. As of mine, it has the german "qwertz" Layout, which was the only reason, why i didn't import one from e.g. US states.

Beside... HP leaked a picture of an ADB USB cable, which connects to the proprietary port (the one with power supply). They just won't sell that cable.

AFAIK there is no way to apply root. That's why i wanted to manipulate their update file. Once you just place the su binaries in /system/xbin directory you are quite well.

Sadly the other known abilities from HP Slate7 (booting from external device) didn't work for me either.
[General Questions and Answers] Mikael R:
HP store, the swedish store though, but their own store.

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The ADB USB cable you're talking about, is it a special cable or just a "regular" USB male A-A? In other words two of the regular USB contacts (the ones you put in the computer)?
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
I tried a male to male USB; it didn't work for me. I think he means a USB to proprietary connector; just like the ASUS cable. I don't understand why HP wouldn't include one.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
DId any one even figure out teh key combination to get into recovery mode even.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
volume down + power
[General Questions and Answers] JWEEZY78:
So here's my two cents on some of the concerns.

RE: Storage

I have a 64gb micro sdxc card in the main tablet portion. It initially did not recognize correctly so I used my phone to format it. It works fine and has been used with my two main apps for syncing. As a casual gamer my largest game is 50MB. Google Music takes more space than that (54MB). With 9.5GB of free space after 107 applications installs there's room for more than 190 more apps at 50mb.

RE: Power

I do use Juice Defender Ultimate on all my devices. After like 2-3 days it still had 50% juice left. I do have DoggCatcher, iSyncr, and Cheetah sync. One of these was observed to be running so it did properly wake up the radios at one point to do a sync.

RE: TouchPad

Those with palm/mouse issues can hit up Settings / Language & Input, scroll all the way to the bottom; uncheck "enable click" and change the palm check sensitivity to see if that helps.

RE: Fast boot / Recovery

Instructions are in service manual (pg47 printed, pg53 pdf). The support is there for both update.zip and fastboot, one only needs to acquire the elusive adapter. Myself, I don't see an immediate need to root. USB Debugging options are available in developer mode, (again acquire the elusive adapter if it becomes available) and you only need to click the build number a number of times to get that to display.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Hi guys, I think I found the app that is hugely draining the battery - Tegrazone. Ever since I've disabled it, the battery drain overnight stopped. Just thought I share.
[General Questions and Answers] pzz123:
HP direct

Hi guys, my original tablet had a tiny white dot on the screen so I asked for a replacement within a week after I received it. When I received the replacement, I immediately noticed it was used. I bought the tablet from HP direct. Is that normal? Does HP actually send out refurbished tablets for replacement? Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
When they sent me a replacement it wasn't as clean as the original and was missing the velcro strap for the charger cord. It was possibly refurbished. But it didn't have any issue though like the first one.
[General Questions and Answers] pzz123:
Hi, I thought they would send me a new one because the original tablet was obviously a defect device.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
does anyone elses table turn on by itself? When I shut it down, and then close the top, plug the power in, it turns back on. I'll come back like 20-30 min later and lift the top, to find that its on
[General Questions and Answers] mr.fast:
I'd like to know how good HP's support is. In terms of software and RMAs.

Any experiences?
[General Questions and Answers] LBJM:
There's a new review up. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/19/hp-slatebook-x2-review/

It states the battery life is not so good. Maybe they ran into tegrazone app issues while using it?
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
64GB NTFS Format

Earlier, I shared about my problems with 64GB microsd card. Slatebook couldn't read it under ExtFAT format.

I then changed it to FAT32 and it was fine, except that it couldn't store anything beyond 4GB.

I'm happy to say that the problem is solved now ever since I changed the format to NTFS. Slatebook reads it fine and the card has no problems with files bigger than 4GB now.
[General Questions and Answers] tigre_blanco:
I have an HP laptop myself and it's simply the best laptop I have ever had. Good to hear you like your new slate x2!
[General Questions and Answers] ram1986:
USB flash drives?

I have been using this for 2 days and I am really pleased with the performance.

The screen calibration seems a bit off and could be a little better.

Reg the USB port, I was able to connect my USB Mouse and external hard drives (external power supply) just fine.

But, I had no success connecting a normal USB flash drive. Can someone confirm if a regular USB flash drive works with this?

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
works fine 4 me
[General Questions and Answers] ram1986:
How is your flash drive formatted? FAT32? I tried 2 flash drives with FAT32, did not work.

But, external mouse, game controllers, hard drives work fine.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
A funny fact about this is, i tried to use flash drives. External NTFS HDDs and sticks work fine, aswell as exFat. But Fat32 Sticks couldn't be red. Even though the sdcard slot doesn't accept exFat.