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[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Yeah I already use a launcher but after getting rid of the search bar and that ad page or apps i t came really close to being good but that widget just pushes me away. Maybe in the next update. Right now I'm using apex and smart launcher would you recommend one. I'm pretty sure I've tried them all but hey you never know.

Also is there any good tablet ui launcher? Like on my apex launcher I have it set to tablet mode it just looks nicer when in landscape mode.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
I usually install Next 3D Launcher, but any other will be ok too (Nova Launcher in example)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
i'm not really a fan of Next 3D but maybe i'll try it again. anyways thanks for replying.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Just bought my MUCH i5 today from JD.com for ￥999 RMB and free shipping. I think that equals out to be under $170 US. And was told I will receive it tomorrow at noon.

I am living in Beijing though... So that is why I get a 24hr delivery.

My Xperia Play just broke yesterday, and I thought I try this one out. Sounds like you guys enjoy yours. Can't wait to get it.

P.S.

JD.com is a Chinese online store that deals in mostly electronics. I dunno if they will be able to set up delivery overseas.

edit: link http://item.jd.com/925063.html
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I hope you enjoy it. I love mine expecially after the 4.2.2 update.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Check the SIG dudes!

Oh yeah! Its big and awesome. Hard to get used to the size after using the PLAY for nearly 3 years.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Sorry dude, but what do you mean with SIG?

and what do you mean when with "after using the PLAY"? :eek:
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
PLAY meaning the "Sony Ericsson Xperia Play" which was my phone since 2011. It is nearly half the size of the MUCH i5.

And my sig is at the bottom of my post and says which phone I am using to comment on the board.

I am just trying to boast...
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
XD

ok

sorry by the question. i´m not enlgish spoken and somethings like this may not understand quickly.

:D
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Yeah the size was hard to get use to but after a week or two i felt comfortable holding it with one hand in portrait and using the tips of my fingers for the wardware keys kind of like a guitar :p
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
No problem. Thanks for all the info about the phone. Without you guys I'd have to be translating lots of Chinese. And let me tell you, your English is waaaaaaaaaaaay better than my Chinese.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
How did you update it? I downloaded the zip file but I don't know what to do with it.

Any way you get give me some newb friendly tips?
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Take it easy: the update is a beta

check my blog for more info

next days will be released new version.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Thanks. But for some reason blogspot is blocked in China. Maybe I can find a proxy to view it, but most of those are blocked too... Hahaha
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Which update was a beta?
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
New auto update is out for the i5. But download keeps failing. Maybe it'll work after a couple days when the server is less busy.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Hey do you guys know what the clear up button does. When your on the stock launcher and press the menu button it comes up.
[Xperia Play General] equano:
Does this have calling and messaging like the Much i5 and i4 does?
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
I am sorry but i may not understand your question. The i5 has calling and messaging and dedicated gaming controls just like the Xperia Play.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Updated to the new firmware 5.5.7, on the i5, and it has enhanced speed and stability. Had to do a manual update though as the auto update feature kept failing to download at 63%.

Edit: hey has anybody tried "retroarch" on the much i5? The game compatibility is pretty good but the gamepad is not recognized, and I have to remap the keys a lot.

Its an open source project, and the head dev suggests to send him data in order to config any new input sources.

Does anybody with more time and patience than me want to give it a try?
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
Could either of you guys [MENTION=4498256]Dilemina[/MENTION] , [MENTION=5297514]insane5125[/MENTION] or Deenox do me a favour at all please and just have a browse through the Play Store and see if a few of the best games come up as Compatible as I am very close to buying one but will really be disappointed if half the games dont work. Im looking at games like real racing 3, Asphalt, MC4 etc? Thanks in advance for any help you can give :)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I'm not finding real racing 3, but asphalt and mc4 are available.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
real racing 3 (EA Swiss Sarl), is ok.

Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour (Gameloft), is ok

Asphalt 8: Airborne, is ok

I´m using the last firmware update (5.5.7)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
What differences is there between 5.5.7 & 5.5.6.

Also I'm really happy with the rate of development for are phone. It feels nice knowing any second a new update could come out.
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
Thanks guys. I was a little like 'oh.......' when insane said that RR3 was not there as thats the main reason my S7300 is being used every day, but as it seems that it is available, possibly through the update, I may be purchasing mine very soon! :good:
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
yeah i'm sorry about that, even without the update its available. i guess i just passed over it when i was looking for the others.:good:
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
So these are not available in USA yet as i know of but they were just relieced by ireadygo.

EDIT: so that last picture got cut of but its the i5S it has 1.5 GHZ CPU, 16GB storage, 2 GB ram.

it looks the same as the origional black i5.
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
Well guys, just ordered myself the Much i5. Paid for DHL shipping as I don't want to wait till after xmas for it to arrive so hopefully in the next couple of weeks I will be rocking a giant new phone. Only thing is now that being so close to xmas and needing money for presents, my Xp will have to go on ebay :(

Do any of you guys actually use the Much as your daily phone or do you feel its too big? I'm not bothered if people look at me funny about it........ I used to own the original N-Gage and didn't care then!!! :)
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
I use it for phone, for email, for internet, for chat, for email, and I use the HDMI port to watch online videos on my TV.

The HDMI port loses some of the resolution on my tv though, so if you are an HD freak, you may not want to use it for that.

Its too bad my Play broke when it did though, because that MUCH i5S looks better with that extra ram and more powerful processor.

Although it is not available on the Chinese market yet either. I think that it might become available before next year.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
I use my Much as a normal smartphone too. For phone calling, whatsapp, gaming (Soul Calibur yeah!), vídeo, music, camera, etc. for ALL normal usages of any smatphone.

The only thing i miss is a led indicator, but is not critical.

i really love this device.
[Xperia Play General] X-Giga:
Is it worth it buying the Much i5? I think I am interested in buying it but I don't know if it is worth it or not. Is it root ready and customizable like the Xperia Play?

Sent from my R800i 'Zeus' Xperia Play
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
It comes rooted and is customizable. I haven't tinkered too much with mine, but I would suggest waiting until the i5S model is available for you as it has more ram to play with.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I use mine as my everyday smartphone andmost people actually thinks its interesting instead of weird. Yeah I wish I could get my hands on the i5s as well but I'm happy with my purchase and who knows if a year from now I want an update and a big company has yet to make a true gaming phone I might pick it up.

Also I emailed willgoo asking if the much i5s will come available on their site and I'll update everyone when I get a reply. But ever way I'm happy ireadygo is expanding so fast, as of now there are 4 models of the i5 and now the i5s.
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
The support from ireadygo sounds promising. Much better than JXD's (actually, even better than Sony I suppose, who decide that unbranded handset owners only need updates months after branded handset owners! :mad: )
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
hi X-Giga.

Check this, may be useful for you.

;)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I just received my reply from willgoo and they will be receiving the much i5s when it becomes available. This doesn't say if they will be receiving the colored versions of the i5. They didn't mention anything about the colored versions of the i5. :D:thumbup: I'm really excited to here this.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Sounds good. But I dunno if I will be buying one. Hopefully they sell well and can keep turning out new models. Then it can either catch on with another company, or they will have a nice new model available when it comes time to get a new phone again.

Anyways, cheers!
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Yeah I wasn't planning on buying an i5s any time soon since I have already bought my i5. It's just good knowing. :D
[Xperia Play General] Visa Declined:
The nVidia Shield is on sale for Black Friday, and Newegg is selling it $50 dollars off, plus throwing in the very nice $40 dollar case, and a Shield t-shirt plus 2 months of free Hulu service. It's an awesome deal, and if you have a gaming PC with a compatible GeForce graphics card(I do) it makes this deal hard to pass up. I just ordered mine, and I look forward to lounging around in my living room playing Skyrim while my roommate yells at his XBox.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998077
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Nice find:thumbup:
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
So this is probable a stupid question but since our phone has hdmi output does it have hdmi input. Could i hook my ps3 or other system up to it via hdmi and play using my phone as the screen? :confused:
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
No, only HDMI output

but i figure you can use it as remote display (wifi display) receiver.

pair via Wifi-Direct with another device, and search in the other device the "Remote display" (or similar), and chek if you can see Much as receiver.

I think i tested this and work sometime... but there is so much lag, and you cant use for normal playing (almost, not fighting gaming)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
yeah i didn't think it would work but i got so excited i couldn't help but ask. Thanks for the quick reply.
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
My Much i5 should be arriving in the next few days as it is coming via dhl which is quite exciting, although when I told my missus she had a go at me as she has bought me a new phone for xmas apparently (Got a feeling its a nice MLais one I showed her recently) and Im not sure what to do phone wise now. Is the much a viable purchase just as a tablet? Especially if this DX deal on the JXD S7800 comes through, Im gonna have chinese devices coming out of my ears!! Already got a couple of generic chinese tablets, a JXD S7300 and my missus has a No1 S6 which is an awesome GS4 clone :)

---------- Post added at 04:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:56 PM ----------

Forgot to mention I have a gameklip too ;)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Sorry for not answering quickly, I wanted someone like Deen0X to answer this because i know he owns multiple devices like you. i have only owned the xperia play and Much i5 when it comes to android gaming devices. My opinion would be if your only going to use the much i5 as a tablet get something else. for the same price you can get better tablets with gaming controls such as JXD devices. Don't get me wrong the much i5 is an amazing phone but just not an amazing tablet. i hope this helps. :good:
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Hi!

sorry for delay. i don´t see previous messsage

i think we cannot compare these two devices directly. first of all, you must get clear about what you want, wich experience you want to get.

JXDS7800B is a tablet with controls. is a big device (7") that you cannot get carry easily on your pocket. if you want to use this as a "portable" device you must consider on get this on a backbag or any travel bag.

Important to consider, this device cannot be charged by MicroUSB, then you need to carry the charger, if you want to get always ready. I mean, if you use a phone, is easy to connnect this to any computer and charge this. with many micro-charging on the day, you get a decent battery life (you can get running your smartphone for a complete day, with a normal usage of it)

I don´t know your situation, but you consider if you want to get this as a portable/public device. In my case, i use all the devices on public. When i go to my office, i use devices on subway, train, bus, etc. Sometimes, the size of the device can be annoying, specially when i want to use with only one hand (the other i need to grab some handrails to avoid fall down myself).

Much i5, is a phone with controls. The concept is not the same. 5" size may be enough for many usages, but depends on the preferences of each one, some usages need more screen. Personally, i get comfortable playing and watching movies on it, but is hard reading book (but is possible), or manga/comics.

In another hand. many times i get out from my house, carry only this device, and i get all i need on it. smartphone, gps, music, movies, games, etc, etc. Battery life is enough for a complete day of usage, but i always carry a retractable microUSB to copy data on the device, or simply charging if i get any computer near.

Personally, i feel more comfortable with Much device, even with the problems that this device have (no joystick driver, in example). S7800B is a nice and more powerful device, but big to carry anywhere. maybe in other circunstances i prefer a tablet, but now i get all my basics need fulfilled with Much i5.

Note: JXD re-announces their S5800 devices. Basically, are the same config as Much i5, but with S7800B factor form.

greetings! (and apologize my rude english)
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
Thanks for the replies guys.

My Much i5 arrived today but havent opened it yet so will be having some fun with it soon :)
[Xperia Play General] Visa Declined:
I believe most of these Chinese phone/gaming devices get only 2G data on U.S. GSM networks, which I couldn't handle. I'd still rather pack a good phone and dedicated gaming device separately, and the Nexus 5/nVidia Shield combo is hard to beat.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Its not too bad for me. I only use phone data to check my emails and look up things. I download my apps and large files via wifi. I think most people are around wifi 95% of the day anyways.
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
Just want to add XDA has added a new forum for Android handheld gaming devices:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/forum-added-for-android-gaming-consoles-and-handhelds/
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
That's all well and good for people interested in Nvidia Shield, Ouya, and Mad Catz M.O.J.O., but i think they should allow us to create boards about other gaming devices too.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
yeah maybe they'll add one for us soon.
[Xperia Play General] saqibkhan:
Xperia play any day.. best alternative to xperia play (black) is.. XPeria play white :) .. all other devices are useless pieces of junk. end of topic. Close Thread :)
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
what do you talking about?

xperia play, for now, is a waste of money and time. sony abandoned their device and today you cannot run many games from the store.

ANY chinese alternative is for long BETTER than xperia play. only by the support, scene and android updated O.S.

hope Sony release a Xperia Play 2... but while waiting, there is another better alternatives than Xperia Play 1. for sure.
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
Well I got my Much i5 yesterday and I have to say I am very impressed with it.

The build quality is very good, feels very sturdy compared to many other chinese devices I have had, and the screen is beautiful.

Downloaded a few android games on it so far and the only issue I have had found is that due to the resolution the games are pushing the cpu a bit compared to a low res screen, but nonetheless the games still look and play great.

The built in mapper is very unique and works very well, one of the best I have used and very intuitive. I like the way the game icons update if you apply a profile to them. I have chosen to use Tincore Mapper though as I like the Moga profile which is recognised by many games. It took some setting up but works well now.

Play store seems to recognise nearly all my bought games and everything I have downloaded so far seems to work. The only game so far that seems to lag is Asphalt 7, although I think that is to do with the HD resolution. I looks massively better on this than it does on my JXD. Asphaly 8 works fine though, as does GT Racing 2 on highest graphics setting.

Both sims work fine together (3 and t-mob) without any setting up and my 32gb Micro SD was recognised no problem. 3g needed no setting up to work properly and the drop down notification bar is fully loaded with toggles for data, wifi, flight mode etc.

I am very impressed with this phone and have found nothing bad about it whatsoever yet. I can highly recommend this phone/Tablet/Phablet!

My poor X-Play is now on eBay :(
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
First of all your post is useless and Immature. I would expect more from someone who has been here for a year and has 200+ posts. Secondly, This is an opinion based thread. I think the xperia play is still an amazing device that will be going strong for a while. But I also think that given the options available today there are better gaming phones out there.

So to sum it up please don't comment with useless information. It's a waste of yours and our time.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Just his opinion man....

Seriously, this is an xperia play board, I like the play. But this much i5 has officially replaced mine.
[Xperia Play General] saqibkhan:
if this is an opinion based thread.. I gave my opinion.. what information in it was not easy to digest.. .. in my "opinion" ,, the best alternative to xperia play is xperia play only.. a version 2 maybe.. others can try to come close.. but those devices look more like a bigger version of Blokia N Gage that came a few years ago.. nice.. but the best wud have to come from Sony.. :) ..

and the end of topic close the thread.. was just playing around man.. chill. :p

Edit 1 : "Useful Link" sorry if repeat. : http://www.archos.com/gb/products/themed/gamepad2/index.html?p=1#a

looks nice.. but I don't think so its a phone.
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
This Archos Gamepad 2 have a serious problem: their brand. (and, is a tablet, not phone, and there is no 3G slot)

If these device come from any other manufacturer, may be users on forums get more seriously, but from Archos everybody know what means: no updates (only for fix serious problems), no sources (in fact, previoius Archos Gamepad release kernel sources, but this is not enough for compile a full custom firmware, but for customers, appears that Archos is giving the source code for the scene development of their device)

seriously, Archos lost all the faith of their costumers with the previous Archos Gamepad, and this new device may be ok, but for sure i will not buy one of this for testing (unless someone send me one, of course)

any other knowed brand (chinese brand) will offer better customer service and post.-selling service than Archos or, in the same way, Sony (Xperia play was fully abandoned by Sony, and gon´t get more updates and nothing more)

in another hand, there is another serious alternative for Xperia Play. JXD announced their new device JXD-S5800, that in fact, is the same hardware than Much i5, but with JXDS7800 shape form.

copy and paste specs:

Chipset: MTK6582, Quad-Core Cortex A7

Screen/Display: 5-inch IPS Bright LCD, Resolution: 960*540 pixels

Touch Panel	5 point Capacitive Screen (G+G )

Communications: 3G (WCDMA) Calling+2G (GSM) Calling

Network: Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n), built-in 3G (WCDMA)

RAM: 1GB DDR3

Flash: 8GB Flash, support external TF card up to 32GB

OS: Android 4.2

Games Support: Android games, 16 Emulator games (PSP, NDS, PS1, N64, aFBA (CPS1/CPS2/CPS3/IGS), Mame, GBA, GBC, SFC, MD, FC, WSC)

Games Control: 5-point capacitive touch, perfect buttons control ,Gravity Control

Buttons: Direction buttons, ABXY, Dual LR, Dual analog joysticks, select, start, Vol+/-, Reset, POWER, Home, Back, Menu and Mode switch button

G-Sensor: 3 Axis Gravity Sensor

Bluetooth: Support

GPS: Support

Camera: 0.3MP Front Camera, 5.0MP Rear Camera

Battery: Built-in 3000mAh replaceable and rechargeable lithium-ion battery, Charge with 5V 2A DC adaptor or USB charging (slow)

Sound device: Speaker, phone receiver and MIC

Video: Support RMVB, AVI, WMV, F4V, FLV, etc. (Support the3rd Party Apps)

Audio: Support MP3, WMA, etc. (Support the3rd Party Apps)

I/O	USB2.0 High Speed

OTG: Connet Keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, U disk and Hard disk

3.5mm Stereo earphone mini jack

Micro TF card slot, max 32GB

TV out: WiFi-Display

Language: Multi-languages

Operate Environment	WindowsXP, Windows 7 or above

Color: Black and White

Size: Length: 198mm Width: 156mm Height: 88mm

In the box: S5800, User Manual, USB cable

seriously, only by hardware this is for long a better alternative than Xperia Play.

and there is another device that probably will be released with similar features, but when i get confirmed i will bring the news.

Zalu2!
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Hey, I have never used a JXD device, I am guessing you or others on this board have.

How would you compare the UI and basic out of the box user friendliness compared to the much i5 or xperia play?

Is the UI unified across its line of devices? Or is it different for each device?

The device looks kinda cool, and I like that it says it has dual shoulder buttons. That means each side has two, right? That would be nice.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Yeah guys I'm sorry about that. I was overreacting. I guess it was cause i just woke up and wasn't understand your joke about closing the thread. On other forums I've been on there really are dumb people like that. I shouldn't of reacted like I did.

Again I'm sorry. I was being dumb this time.
[Xperia Play General] Visa Declined:
No, your reaction was justified. We're at the point where most of us have a different device we're gaming on other than the XPlay, and for him to call every other device "junk" is pretty childish imo.

Maybe he doesn't have money for any of the new devices being talked about in this thread, which look pretty damn good. The JXD S5800 is now on my short list, and I wouldn't have even known about it if it wasn't for this thread.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Thanks, but maybe we should just drop all of this it's just useless back and forth.

About the jxd that think looks sweet I might get one and switch back and forth between that and the i5... That's if my wife let's me. LOL
[Xperia Play General] BensJammin:
I have a JXD S7300b and I have an S7800b in the post! Just got my much i5 so I can't justify an S5800 as well lol. I think JXD devices are great! The thing I hate about Sony is they drop support for their devices so early! Look what they did to the xp..... Not only that but when I had my xperia Z, I had to wait weeks for an available update because they didn't want to support unbranded phones!!

I'm sticking with Chinese phones from now on.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
How are the analogs, d pad, and r1r2 l1l2 on jxd devices? And overall build quality?