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[General Questions and Answers] qlulp:
This is truly sad, I am thinking about retuning the tablet and buy the asus tf701t instead. Root is a must for me and I can't pay 90 dollars for a bloody cable which I'll probably use once. And that's the actual price in Sweden. I love the tablet, it's great and fast. I bought it since there was a discount from 3500kr (522$) to 2500kr (373$), and that's the real reason why I bought mine yesterday. However, the tf701t cost 4000kr (597$) and it's quite as fast as the slatebook x2.

What do you guys think, should I return it and buy the asus or keep mine so hopefully they will release a wireless root (through microsd and recovery) in the near future? There's a 14days return policy so it's no hurry, I have two weeks before I could return mine. But the price diffrence between the slate and asus is huge :/, got me thinking twice. 373$ vs 597$ for root (which might be released) anyway. This is so confusing :eek:
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
even if you pay the 90 for the cable, you'll still be saving money compared to the asus at the prices you listed. But if you can return the tablet, why can't you return the cable? "which I'll probably use once". So why don't you do that. Buy the cable, root, and retun it.

if you don't want to do that, then call their support, and argue with them about the cable. Say you're a developer, and need the cable to debug apps. After arguing like that for a bit, just sounds like you give up, and say you want to return the tablet. If they didn't listen before, they will when you say that. If anything, they will give you a discount on the tablet. I got 85$ additional off when I complied - but about something else on the tablet. Makes the cable worth it then, to be bought seprately.
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
I've had both and the slate book runs a tad smoother and faster. But so limited and I've returned mine a long time ago before root was discovered. I've returned the asus as well since I really wanted the dock but too much issue with the dock. But they are going really cheap now on amazon at $327 usd without dock.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00FFF7DAK/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1399674052&sr=8-1
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
I doubt that will be happening any time soon, if at all.

The best bet is to perhaps ask any of the Slatebook users here if they are prepared to sell their cable to you at a reduce price or alternatively offer a small amount of money to see if anyone is prepared to loan one say at 20 Euros?

Alternatively that suggestion by Bobiscool07 is a good one. By saying that you are a developer (private or working for a firm), they may be more inclined to listen to you if it means promoting the Slatebook and hence sales. Try and give them an incentive to reduce the price of the cable for you.
[General Questions and Answers] qlulp:
This is hopeless. It's easier said than done. I contacted HP (several times, coustomer service, hp shop,)and they do not have the cable to offer it, or atleast here in Sweden they don't. And there is only

one

Swedish company that sells the cable (thought about buying and returning it after a week or so) and they only sell to business companies not private persons. Addition to that, I looked in amazon and ebay. Amazon don't ship to my country and there's only one in ebay that sells it for 135$ from Germany and the return policy is in german :/.

And I don't know nobody who could borrow me the cable for a certain amount of money. Do any of you guys have a cable?

The Asus tf701t (I thought about buying) is way too expensive as for the almost same and identical performance as the slatebook x2. I will most likely buy the Sony Xperia Z2 tablet or Samsung galaxy tab pro 10.1.
[General Questions and Answers] qlulp:
You got me wrong. I don't really care about the keyboard, I already have a laptop. Plus it just gets in the way of a case protector. I bought it for the discount and performance. If fact, every time I use it I take away the keyboard.
[General Questions and Answers] ianzappaian:
rom

Any news on a custom rom i am willing to try if their are any roms available
[General Questions and Answers] qlulp:
You think they will? Or perhaps someone else who has experience with rom development who can create a rom for us that has root already.
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
Has anyone successfully downgraded from 4.3 to 4.2.2 on their SlateBook? The sound quality after upgrading to 4.3 is atrocious. :(

I've tried the SD card ZIP method from HP support to no avail.
[General Questions and Answers] nchall:
Speaking of sound quality, I have a question about the headphone jack.

It seems to me that since the headphone jack is a mic/headphone jack that it should respond to normal Android button presses on headphones with an inline mic/button combo, but it does not.

Anyone have any ideas why it doesn't? I think it is hardware related as I have used apps that detect button presses on the OS level and they show none being detected.

Thanks.
[General Questions and Answers] magolivier:
I've never upgraded my slatebook.

So, i have a notification to accept the upgrade.

Since this morning, i have a second notification, always for an upgrade.

Is it the same thing for you ?
[General Questions and Answers] DannyBiker:
I almost bought it yesterday at 199€ for a new 32GB model...good thing I didn't. A 75 € cable needed to root it ?? Die HP...
[General Questions and Answers] ianzappaian:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2755977
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
It's up on the US HP website now: http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/slatebook/overview.html.

I like the design and hopefully it do well in the market as it will mean good things for our Slatebook such as an update to 4.4.3?
[General Questions and Answers] nashpa:
Request your kernel source code from HP

After some prolonged negociations with HP support in UK they have finally acknowledged their legal requirement of providing the source code and have given me this link https://h20392.www2.hp.com/opensource/product.jsp?cat=1070&fam=Notebook+PCs&prd=E4A99UA-OSP to register my interest in the source code. Haven't heard anything back from them for over a week, but I hope that if enough people ask then maybe HP will realise that people want this sooner rather than later.

thanks,

nashpa
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
I don't mind the design, or resolution too much (thought it could have been better). I would have gotten it, if it came with the Tegra K1 and not the same Tegra 4. Oh well.
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Thanks for starting this, mate. I've submitted a request through that link you send and hopefully something will come out of it.

Just wish that their cable wasn't A$71...I can't be arsed buying one and then sending it back again. It just daylight robbery.
[General Questions and Answers] jendakubik:
QWERTZ

There was the trouble with change HW keyboard from QWERTY to QWERTZ (Czech) in 4.2.2.. Is it possible to change it in 4.3 ?
[General Questions and Answers] nashpa:
Nah, not yet. They haven't given the source code yet, but even if they do, unless someone finds an exploit it will not be easy without a cable.

My interest is in creating alternative boot options for Slatebook (full blown Linux filesystem) rather than Android.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
I would love to see this thing running Linux too, but I am not holding my breath.
[General Questions and Answers] taiz:
I just successful root my slate book with out cable with towelroot.com
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
This is huge news!

I can't wait to get home from work and test this out.
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
Confirmed! Finally ROOT without the cable!

Sent from my HP SlateBook 10 x2
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
Thanks for the update Taiz and mrzood. I've updated my thread below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2425232
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
hey i am having major issues with my slatebook freezing and the battery is total crap now i am rooted and unlocked is there anyway to relock the bootloader so i can get warranty service
[General Questions and Answers] DannyBiker:
I just received an email with the sourcecode from HP. Anyone else got it ?

Downloading right now.

If root is confirmed, at 199 €, I might get this...

Link : https://h20392.www2.hp.com/opensource/product.jsp?cat=107&e=true&fam=Notebook PCs&prd=E4A99UA-OSP
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
Yep, I got the email earlier today to download the source... All 3GB of it.

Danny, if you end up getting one avoid doing the 4.3 update if you care about sound quality out of the headphone jack. It's AWFUL after the 4.3 update.
[General Questions and Answers] DannyBiker:
But isn't 4.3 fixing the yellow tint of the screen ?

I'm still not convinced about the purchase. Yes 199 € is cheap but there are may drawbacks : probably no further update from HP, no chance to see custom roms (root without the cable is great but it doesn't mean Custom Roms are possible), sound issues, subpar screen, weight.

And they even released the source for 4.2.2 instead of 4.3 !

It looks like the price will stick there for me so I'll first wait for the Nexus 8/9 announcement next week. And although extremely expensive, the Z2 is a bliss to hold in your hands.

The keyboard is a nice addition but I also wonder how much productivity can be done in Android...
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Yes, 4.3 did fix the yellow tint on the screen.

Despite of some of it's drawbacks, it's still a pretty decent hybrid tablet/laptop. The weight is mainly in the keyboard which prevents the screen from tilting backwards when attached to the keyboard station. I'm assuming that this device will get Kitkat considering that HP has release the 14 Slatebook which is currently on 4.3. Surely that will get upgraded to 4.4 at some stage being a new product so should be possible to port any kitkat from there to our Slatebook.

As for productivity, I still use the device for surfing the net, movies and steaming shows to my TV via Chromecast. Any serious work is still done on my Windows laptop. But if you've got the Z2 (or if you can afford to get it), I wouldn't bother getting the Slatebook.
[General Questions and Answers] rippack:
Don't works

The toweltool dont works on my HP Slatebook x2, with 4.3 :(

Any of you have the problem ??
[General Questions and Answers] BartLH:
If v2 doesn't work (it froze when I tried), use v1, that worked for me.
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
Source code mirror: http://files.mrzood.com/SlateBook_10_x2_Open_Source_HP_SlateBook_10_x2_PC_Open_Source.zip
[General Questions and Answers] aswieton:
I tried towelroot with 4.3 without success
[General Questions and Answers] DannyBiker:
For French buyers : it's 99 € now at TopAchat.

http://www.topachat.com/pages/detai...ue_est_wh_tabmul_puis_ref_est_in10079572.html

I must say that at that price it's tempting...but I think I'll go with a Tab Pro 8.4 after all.
[General Questions and Answers] mrzood:
Try this one: http://files.mrzood.com/tr.apk

This is the version that worked on my x2.
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
Hey guys,

71 pages to read..

As a quick summary, it seems that for 99 bucks, its still a decent deal

Root seems now possible without cable.

Did anyone post partition layout, try some recovery work, build a draft device tree ?

Is there anybody working currently on this device ??

Has it a locked boot loader?

Thanks all
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
It was 99 as there is a 100 € cash back from HP in France currently.

I bought it, hope to find a cable in the box
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
This is to confirm tr1.apk worked perfectly for me with

stock 4.3 tr.apk (v2) hangs for at last 10 minutes.

BTW have somebody of the already rooters tried installing the Xposed

framework on 4.3, I am kind of cautious with the bootloop issue ..

Cheers
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
I'll be surprised if you do. If you don't get the cable, you can order it (part no: 728141-001) from the HP Parts Store. Just bear in mind that it's pretty expensive for a cable to the point that any savings you've made on the Slatebook might be lost when you purchase the cable....

Link: http://h20141.www2.hp.com/Hpparts/S...FF924&SearchIn=PartNumber&SearchPN=728141-001
[General Questions and Answers] BartLH:
I could't get Xposed to install properly, but after installing the files manually it worked flawlessly, no bootloop.
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
it seems that some French users complained about the lack of cable and got one.

will see. sad if I don't get one, wanted to try some ROM building...

Envoyé de mon A510 en utilisant Tapatalk
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
AH !

I was a little bit busy these days ..

I do have Inslalled Xposed on the HP Slatebook 10 x2 with 4.3, no problem whatsoever,

everything works out of the box (i.e. the apk), I downloaded a number of modules, starting

with Gravity and I am very happy with the rooted convertible !!

The only odd thing is the interaction of Nova Launcher with the Gravity Pie control, at the

end I had to change the hotspot, from the bottom corners to the sides of the screen,

there was no way to make it work on the bottom, with or without the expanded desktop,

I tried everything except removing Nova :) removed all the gestures but none helped.So

far the controls are working nice on the side.

Buy the way these days I have installed also the "Debian no root" (****ubuntu) by Pelya,

the folks of Google play did not liked the original name .. but works very nice, it provides

a PRooted Debian graphic environment with xfce4 fully configurable with the normal repos,

there are still some issues with Java and Libreoffice extensions, but this is a classic on

the normal ARM distribution as well. Installed gcc, g++, and lam and could compile and

run MPI code on the 4 processors.

I'll Keep reporting failures or successes, Cheers.
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
It will be good if you do get one and try some ROM building. We've been keen to get someone to have a go at creating a custom ROM for a while.

Wow! Someone is having fun with their Slatebook. Good to hear that you are playing with it. I'll be following your progress with interest however some of the stuff you mentioned has gone over my head. ;) But the comment you made earlier about the battery life has me interested to read what you are doing to it.
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
Well, I never wrote any comment on the battery :)

However I have to say that the fast drain of the base bothers me somehow,

but somehow you develop a working routine, when I use the tablet as a

notebook in the base, I always have it connected (or I least I try), when

used as a tablet and battery is low or I finish the work, I dock it and

wait untl is fully charged to remove the charging cord (first) and then

power it off .. in that way it could holds the charge decently in the base

for at least a couple of days at 60%, tablet is always at 100% until the

base is depleted.

Operating the tablet on the base without the charger depletes the base

battery very fast but (4-5h) then the tablet itself lasts for about 7 hours,

bluetooth off, BT is a hell of a drainer don't ask me why.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
That Debian No Root was one that I was really hoping for. I would love to boot Debian off of an SD card, but that is a pretty awesome App.
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
Yep, Is good that we have choices .. ;)

Nothing is perfect yet, I totally agree with you .. but it always depend on the use you want

... as you also pointed out ..

Actually I prefer Debian/Ubuntu based ones because Is what I normally use on PCs and ARM

boards, I teach embedded system programming in Linux, mostly for aerospace engineering.

but I admit I never cared much about Android until very recently.

It is always better to get a basic system and then compile and add everything as you

recommend. But I needed more time for that, "Debian no root" was something almost

"out from the can".. and I could get everything I needed to work, with minimal changes ..

Still there is a lot of space for improvements on all Linux [over,under] Android efforts...

I think that we will have to fork a sort of "cleaner" Debian distro that properly works

alongside with Android, using the same crippled kernel and VFS, make sure to use

SDL 1.3 with all the accelerations and expose them to/on X11. But I do need native

X11 working on it and OpenGL btw .. something nobody have yet truly working ..

I am traveling a lot these days, let's see what I can do when I get back home ..

That started everything BTW, I always have to travel with a laptop and the tablet,

I'll be very happy if I could pack only one :)

In any case I will keep posting everything here .. Cheers.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
I know it's been a while, since i replied to this thread. Of course OK couldn't wait to root my device as well. Thanks for pointing out towel root anyway. By the next week I'll try to access the bootloader / recovery without a cable and hope i won't boot loop it. About the Linux abilities. Ever since my first tablet i wanted a fully Ubuntu or Debian / Android hybrid running. To achieve it chroot seemed to be a nice way in my opinion. Also i was able to access local devices and start the X server. I don't remember the commands well. You must install an ssh server to the android binaries (or use adb) and run two commands to stop surface flinger and release the framebuffer. Then you are able to run x11. The tegra 4 sports almost the whole opengl 3 command reference anyway.

Greetings
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
Good hints blender3d,

that reminded me of this thread some time ago: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2164060

I am actually on the same line of thought as gnidorah, even when I do need a lot of things from the Linux distro I don't want to overload Android, just complement it, the current satus of Dnr still does not reach the standard I need on the graphics. I can easily compile on a spare Tegra4 board to avoid keep messing with the tablet, I will install 4.3 on it and see where it goes, Proot is a good option in fact on Dnr I added the missing dirs for the two SDs and the USB and all worked nice ..
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
I guess, i created some misunderstandings :D I meant, I will try to overwrite the recovery partition. May be via its block device or something.

About the x server. I meant that you should ssh into your android, not the chrooted distro. In case, once you stopped surface flinger(Androids GUI), you won't be able to use any app, anyhow. That enables you to access your frame buffer from the chrooted system and start x inside with all GPU command sets. At least, nvidia is a terrible Linux supplier but they provide an running solution on their developer site.

Of course, the ultimate solution would be to install all of your needed binaries into Android but that would make the system incredible confusing. However i remember someone who did exactly that to an old HTC phone a couple of years ago.

Nice search [MENTION=2114437]RO25[/MENTION] that's the approach i meant. About an year ago i achieved it with an Asus tf700 but tegra 3 lacks a whole lot of opengl function set so it was very slow and buggy
[General Questions and Answers] RO25:
yep,

I was distracted with the football ..

I was about to point that to gnidorah, if we use the native Android file system for Linux too, first we have to be rooted then we can then run into total caos, also because many binaries should have to be modified to run on the Android filesystem structure or create a lot of links, that's why Chroot or Proot is of a great help. Being a guest is not filling your house with all my stuff.

In a way the RAP is more or less the same than Proot although they recompiled everything to use the external dirs and [ChP]root is just an abstraction to avoid any modifications. This project of gentoo is not under active development, it was just a project on ths summer of code, only works on a terminal emulator and only works on rooted environments, they are looking for a new student now to implement the graphics and sharing the framebuffer through wayland with Android, see final report of the project here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.summer-of-code/1453
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Whoops, I confused a post made by micro2112 as one of yours (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53518133&postcount=37) my apologies. :o

You're right, the battery drain is a concern but the post by micro2112 gave me a bit of hope that after rooting the device, we can address it somehow. I'll try your suggestion too.
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
Experience has proven that most of the time, voting is useless, unless a guru buy the device..

We have to work on it, and maybe first step would be to open a dedicated thread for HP Slatebook development.

I've seen somebody working on recovery, is there already a device tree set-up to complete? can we share our efforts?

I'm still waiting for my device, and frankly, i would have pleasure to relaunch my old compile environment and do some fun stuff on that.

I've previously worked on Acer A510 and Alcatel OT-995 with some success, but i can't build everything alone, so are there any guru or at least experienced kernel/rom workers there ?
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
None so far but alot of enthusiasts with some well mixed up development experience.
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
Ok, so anybody had motivation to open and keep alive a development topic ?
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
I'll be happy to start one off. I'm not a developer nor that technically inclined so opening a development topic is the least I can do.

What do we call it? HP Slatebook x2 ROMs? Or something more exciting such as "Slatebook x2 ROMs and other exciting stuff"? :D

I noticed that with the PayPal app, I'm not able to install that onto my Nexus 7 (2012) either.
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
thanks,

it's not that i do not want to do it, but i might have difficulties to keep the thread alive as i'm quite busy.

I will have the device today, may be a cable in it.

Did someone try to open the charge cable, to know if it can be converted to USB cable easily ? i could then just solder a double connector..
[General Questions and Answers] fxjohn:
Confirmation

I've just bought a HP SlateBook 10 x2 with the 99 € offer in France, and I want to confirm that I've successfully rooted my device with Towelroot v1 after the 4.3 update. I've not read it here on this topic so I must add I've found a zipped 4.3 update on the official HP site named sp64892.exe. I had the feeling that the 4.2 version of this device may not worth 99 € but it seems quite better now (but I've not tested a headphone before/after). A last observation from my installation: the tr1.apk found on this topic doesn't work (parse error) for me so I've used one from Apptoide depository.

Combined with an Amazon 150€ free app opportunity of the last weekend, it makes a perfect first laptop for my three and half child. He previously have a 10 € Pokemon keyboard with a DS but I don't think it rather counts as a laptop installation ;)
[General Questions and Answers] BENETNATH:
I just received mine too, for 99€, i'm really happy.

sadly, no usb cable.

It's really disgusting and i will bother HP support until i get one ! it's really not acceptable to put a proprietary usb and no cable...

edit : typo

---------- Post added at 04:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:06 PM ----------

Richard B. is the VP on HP support, he may help us ???

Please RT : https://twitter.com/BENETNATH/status/484337011755843585