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[General Questions and Answers] JackOneil:
I have just tried to FAT32 flash drive and it works like a charm.

I'm only having problem with my Galaxy S4 as its not connecting like usual external drive, but that sharing thing... I guess im going to need some app that will create usb to external drive like connection.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
Has anyone else called HP to request the USB cable?

Also, has anyone had success using the included HP printer suite with an HP Photosmart printer?
[General Questions and Answers] dartuil:
Hey whats up people? :laugh:

This tablet seems good :)

Did anyone play on it? (a video gameplay if possible :angel:)

I heard about screen issues is that right?

Thank you :)
[General Questions and Answers] fredsncf:
i confirm this tablet is good.

video games turn just very well.

it's true, sometimes, when i'm lauching games,my screen just,.....,scratch with terrible sound and the only solution is to turn of the tablet.

but it's just few times.;)
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
I have played games on mine, and it works well. The graphics are really smooth. The only graphics problem I see is the faint yellowish tinge when you look at a white page. It looks like you are looking at old paper in a book. It is not a harsh white. I sort of like it for typing. In games I don't see any issues at all. I
[General Questions and Answers] dartuil:
Thanks :)

The tablet is for internet and gaming on the sofa or at work (in pause :cool: )

So you can confirm real racing 3 , nova 3 are smooth?
[General Questions and Answers] romdroid.:
Is there root available?
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
No
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
I can confirm that about ans game i Trier... MC3, MC4, N.O.V.A.3, Dead Space, Avabel, Dungeon Hunter 4, Eternety Warrior, Shadowgun&SG Dead Space and many more are running very smooth. Playing with it is great. The slightly yellowish display isn't that bad. At least i got used to it.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Can Read BUT Cannot Write to NTFS

Hmm...thought I should update everyone that if your SD card is in NTFS format, Slatebook can read from it BUT cannot write to it. Frustrating. Sorry if I caused inconvenience with my earlier post.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
My solution now is have the microsd card in the Tablet in FAT32 format for Read and Write, and the one the Dock in NTFS format for storing FHD movies.

As long as your movie file is less than 4GB, you can store in the FAT32 format card. Otherwise, NTFS is the only solution for files larger than 4GB that I've found for now, since Slatebook cannot mount exFAT format cards.
[General Questions and Answers] micro2112:
hahaha not the cleanest of solutions, but it works. Thanks for the updates.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
another system update today 429.5 meg check system updates
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
Interesting, thanks for the tip. It would be nice if HP advertised what the updates are for.
[General Questions and Answers] McVader:
Latest Update.

I think the latest update may have fixed the colour temperature, it might just be wishful thinking, but whites look whiter. I'll have to wait till I get home to compare it with my TV while plugged in through HDMI to be sure.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
I think you are correct. It looks better, but it is still a little bit yellow to me. Not in a bad way, it is easy on the eyes.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
It's good that these updates are coming through. Perhaps they will eventually update to 4.3.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Anyway... for anyone still trying to MOD arround. I came to the conclussion, that the Vol+ Button together with Power Button must have some meaning as well. As known... if you press Vol- and Power, you will end up in the stock Android Recovery. Sadly we don't have HPs signing keys to create a root update.zip. But if you pres Vol+ and Power for just a second, apparently nothing happens... the display doesn't turn on. If you try to power on with just the power button, nothing will happen either. You have to hold the power button for a couple of seconds before you get able to power on again.

If you are loading your battery and press Vol+ and the power button you will see that the LED on the power cable will flash once.

It might be some kind of trigger to boot from an external device. I tried to format a microSD and a SD card with bootable systems but they didn't work.

If someone feels himself happy to play arround, you may try an USB device with some kind of ARM linux destribution and post your conclussion.
[General Questions and Answers] kseise:
That is interesting. I saw something on HP's support forums about someone accidentaly finding a boot from USB option. I thought is was a reference to the Slate 7 though.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Hey, what do you know; the yellowish tint was reduced/removed with the latest update. Just ran antutu, and there was a bit of a bum. nothing game changing, but just about 200.
[General Questions and Answers] scanline:
i gained about 1000 on antutu and i was one of the lucky ones never had yellow screen tint 31743 antutu screenshot not showing
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
yeah, I have about 32300 :)
[General Questions and Answers] dartuil:
So you confirm the yellow screen disappear with the update?

Good to know ,the tab is okay to buy then?
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
The problem for benchmarks like AnTuTu is that it's not consistent. For example, before the update, I was getting ~28000; after the update and following a fresh reboot, I got about 29500. I ran again this morning, but not after a reboot and got about 24500. I then went in and shut down everything running and re-ran AnTuTu and got 31548 (which is the highest score I've seen on my x2 so far).

Your score will be heavily dependent on the state of your system (fresh reboot or not) and what apps and services you have running. Regardless, I think its pretty clear that this is one of the fastest devices out there at the moment. It will be interesting to see how the x2 goes against the Nexus 5 when it comes out, which looks to have a nicely optimised Snapdragon 800 setup.

I also think the screen hue has improved with the latest update, but its just a subjective assessment; could be psychological. Still, against my wife's Note 8, whites are not as 'brilliant'. This is not a criticism; I have no issues with the screen. Unless I side by side compare, I wouldn't know the difference to any other screen; I use a Note 2 as my phone, its not too different.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Yep... I've red something about USB Boot on the Slate 7 as well. That's why I tried to use cards. I don't have an USB device right now. But also I couldn't find anyway to identify it's trying to access the storage. I think this mode may also expect some kind of special behaviour of an device. Let's say no boot record but a vmlinuz kernel file. Also trying to find a security issue, I found a thread about the SGS4 where the hack containing stick has to be exFAT formatted. Anything else doesn't work.

So it should be just a question of fun and time of playing around.
[General Questions and Answers] McVader:
I've got an old 80gb mini external hdd that I use with the x2. If you hold down power and vol+ when the tablet is off the light on the charger will turn off after a couple of seconds, after letting go of the buttons the light on the charger comes back on and i can confirm that the hdd turns on and is accessed. Hdd is formatted in NTFS if that makes any difference.

Is there any files I should experiment with putting on the drive? I know next to nothing about rooting anything.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Thats a really interessting effect. Well i am pretty sure, NTFS won't work, since it's Microsoft exclusive licensed. But FAT32 should do some other magic. You may try an Application called LiLi USB creator. It is made to create bootable external devices with linux installed. Actually they don't support ARM distributions but seeing it booting would already change a lot.

Some other thing. How does Modern Combat 4 look on your Slatebooks? Someway low resolution or anything? I have got the feeling that any Havok Vision driven app looks like using terrible low resolution on the Slatebook X2.
[General Questions and Answers] groumfi:
Hi,

I used Win32diskimager and Raspberry img file to build a bootable ARM USB stick.

Then I tried the vol+ and power while device being connected to power. I can't see any access to the stick

Here's exactly what I did :

0/ Power is plugged, device is off

1/ Light on power is orange

2/ Hold down vol+ and power

3/ After 7 sec. light on power turns off and stays off until I release the power button

4/ When I release power button light goes blue for 1/2 sec and orange again and I'm back to 1/

At any time, I can see an access to the stick

On the other hands, booting to recovery, I can access to the USB stick
[General Questions and Answers] McVader:
[MENTION=5439271]blender3d[/MENTION] - The X2 can read from NTFS but not write to it, I've been meaning to reformat the drive as FAT32 but Win7 no longer has that option and I havent searched for format program yet. I'll look into the LiLi USB program you mentioned.

I havent tried Modern Combat 4 on the X2 yet but Real Racing 3 also runs in a lower res, there is a thread on XDA where someone found that if you use an app called Ultimate Rotation Control and start the game in portrait mode and then switch to landscape it somehow forces the game to use native res, it works and looks a whole lot better, you might want to try that with MC4. The app has a free 7 day trial but otherwise costs $3 or so.

[MENTION=5462457]groumfi[/MENTION] - The drive I used draws its power through USB, when I do the Vol+ trick the Light turns on and flashes for a couple of secs, the drive flashes when its being accessed so it has to be looking for something, no idea why you're getting different results..
[General Questions and Answers] groumfi:
Simple FAT32 format tool

Hi,

As a new user I can't post link, but if you google for fat32format you'll find a URL (homepage of Ridgecrop Consultants Ltd) were you can download a great tool : fat32format.exe

Simple command line utility that allow to bypass this Windows limitation that oblige you to use ntfs for large drive
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Yep about NTFS but if there is an instance which handles external boots, it would be much lower than the Kernel itself (Kernel handles fs access [ext4, fat32, ntfs & exFAT]).

So if i try an device to be bootable i would choose to use the most used FS. By today i'm back at my linux PC and will try some stuff as well.

A note for anyone trying around with NTFS/FAT Sticks... the binary system folder contains the make_ext4fs binary. But i didn't try this FS yet. Might be an option for anyone using sticks in only this device (no windows PCs)

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I just tried ext2/3/4. All of them were not readable with the slatebook. Which is sad but whatever.

[MENTION=5422042]McVader[/MENTION]

Is your external HDD Power supplied or does it just get powered by USB?
[General Questions and Answers] McVader:
The Hdd I use with the X2 is an 80Gb 'Seagate FreeAgent Go' powered by USB (really chews through the battery), however I've also tried a 500Gb and a 1.5Tb that need a power supply and they both work. The only drive I've tried that dosent work is a new USB3 3Tb.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
[MENTION=5422042]McVader[/MENTION]

and all of them show access, when you try the vol+ and power combination?
[General Questions and Answers] groumfi:
Okay, on my side, tried the following

Install Raspian ARM image on a an external HD. This is for sure bootable as I was able to boot a Chromebook on it.

Then, tried the Vol+ and power combination. I can see the led of the HD flashing (my HD has no box, so I can see which led is flashing : only the power on one). After 2 sec. HD turns of and Slatebook is back to original point : orange LED on the power plug.

It seems that Vol+ and Power do something but is currently limited to powering the HD but not trying to boot internally or externally ...
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
I see. Well i look at it, as an psycho doc would do... something it must be made for. I fairly get out of ideas since my USB Stick didn't even light up. Did anyone log his traffic, while the slatebook found an update from HP? May be it could be tricked that way. Use an Proxy to tell it, there is an update... actually made by user. Also, once it did download one, i didn't find any file above 100MB. Did you guys find, where it placed the update file?
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
USB Adapter

HP is more than capable of producing an adapter for the Slatebook. What's the matter with them? Look what they have for the HP Elitepad 900 G1 Tablet (Windows 8). I think the connector is different from ours - looks wider.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
The point that you're all missing is that this is a PC, not an android tablet with a dock. And like a netbook PC, it has a brick charger. If you want a tablet with a dock, that has a charger like that, stick to Asus. HP is great at making PC, this is the "HP Slatebookx x2 PC". That charger wouldn't have such a long length either, its good that I can charge and use this tablet on my table, without having to through it on the floor so that it can be charged.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
True, that's what HP calls it - PC. However, changing the name does not make it a PC or change the system. It is still an Android tablet.

IMHO, I think HP did it from a marketing angle - calling it PC does not put in direct competition with the other Android tablets. If that's true, then it is assuming users are ignorant.

Also, the Elitepad is supposed to be a PC. It is running Windows 8. Still, they made the accessory, didn't they?
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
It's running android, so it's not a PC? So you think anything running windows is only a PC. I guess according to you, anyone with a Ubuntu or anyother linux distro is not running a PC. It's not a marketing thing in fact, this PC is the smaller budget model under the other two x2 models, which both run Windows. Make perfect sense why the budget model would run Android, as it would save an extra 200 bucks. It's a personal computer, like it or not. They made it out to be a PC, so what they included or did not include is based on that. Had they made this out to be a tablet, they would have included things any tablet includes, and like asus would have charged extra for a keyboard accessory. Yet they didn't. Why? Not because they can't, but because its a damn PC, not a tablet + Accessory.
[General Questions and Answers] pzz123:
PC or not PC?

Hi guys, it's just a name. Whether it's a PC or not PC really depends on your personal preference. But really, as a non-tech-savvy person, I don't see the difference between a HP slatebook x2 and asus TF (with keyboard). Asus could also call their TF (+keyboard) as a PC or tablet PC.
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
My, my. Hit a nerve, did I? Maybe you should try to relax. Share your opinion. Don't get all preachy about it. Sounding strong doesn't make you right.

Does the Slatebook qualify as PC? Frankly, I'm not bothered by the name. I use it and I like. And I just want the accessory.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
OMG, what you guys can yell about. If you want it like this, it is considered to be an Android personal computer. Which doesn't say anything beside it is supposed to be a calculator for personal use.

I think, HP didn't bring this cable to the world market, to prevent people hacking/rooting/flashing the device. Once before they did show a cable like this (prop connector 2 USB) but it suddenly dissapeared from their homepage. Actually it is not supposed to be fully used without the dock... hdmi and usb connectors would be missed which is like an must have with table... erm small Android PCs. To mention, there are not just HP and Asus bringing tablets with keyboards. At the same time, the Note10.1 appeared, Huawei brought a tab with keyboard as well (Mediapad 10 FHD). I beleive, Toshibas eXcite tab got a keyboard as well, which is just connected via bluetooth.

At least, HP is the only one, where there's no USB debugging cable and which doesn't bring HDMI/USB to the tablet portion.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
*Facepalm*

You can have whatever opinion you want. It doesn't change the fact that HP positioned this as a budget PC model under their x2 line of PCs. They decided to take this approach, and not compete directly with ausu's tablet + optional dock combination. For that reason, they included or excluded from the slatebook, what would be considered part of a PC or not. For example, I've never heard of a PC having a GPS - hence, slatebok x2 doesn't have a GPS. They included things like USB, HDMI, Full SD card slot because of this too. In the end, it doesn't matter whether you think its a PC or not, because the choices that HP has already made were based on this product positioning.

The fact that people think its a tablet + dock combination only shows that HP did a poor job at marketing.

*Source-

HP own website

Renato Diaz, who works as Ops at Hewlett-Packard.

Uni for - Honors in Business Administration & Communication Culture Information Technology
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Fair enough, guys. Let's move on.
[General Questions and Answers] Rydo111:
I had a TF201 before my x2; other than the SoC is updated (the Tegra 4 is awesome) and the keyboard is better, this is no different to the TF201 with respect to function. Nor is it funamentally different in function than any other tablet with a keyboard tethered to it (ie iPad). So calling this a PC is simply HP marketing hype; its not really based on any substance.

Ignoring the arguements for whether its a PC or not; I don't understand your assertion that because the x2 is a 'PC' it must have a brick? If I could have my x2 powered wirelessly, I'd take that in a heartbeat. I don't think the function of the device changes based on whether its charged by a brick.

I will say that the brick does charge the x2 very fast, which is awesome. But I think the x2 is still funamentally a tablet with an integrated detachable keyboard; I generally don't care for it to be attached to a power source while I am using it, so the quick charging is appreciated.

Regardless, I'd still find a slim USB charger for travel very useful; the voltage requirements are identical to the TF201 (15V).
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Long story short, everyone has its own thoughts of tab or pc... however, did anyone yet find a way to root/hack or flash the slatebook?
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Think what you want, believe whatever you like, hold whatever opinion you have, Like whatever you please, hate whatever you dislike.

Understand what I'm saying. I am not giving an opinion, I am stating fact.

Hewlett-Packard created this as a PC under their line of x2 PCs. As such, the items and functions included with this PC were based on product differentiation.

Regardless of what you or I, or anyone else thinks should have been included, HP placed the items with the x2 that would position is at a PC, again creating product differentiation. This includes things like the brick charger, (which is standard for laptops/netbooks) not having a USB connection to the PC, (which computers rare if ever have), having a USB, Full SD slot & no GPS.

However, as with any business product production, Product positioning is not the only agenda. Other factors like, the ideal price point, the cost of production, what the competitors are doing, and other factors were mixed into account when creating the HP slatebook x2 PC.

Again, the fact that you, and most other people on here think that its just a tablet with a dock, only shows how poor HP's product was received.

my point being: the product was not just marketed as a PC, it was conceptualised and built as a PC. If anyone, the marketing was bad if people still do not understand it to be a PC. But regardless of anyone's opinion on whether it is representative of a PC or not, the choices made for the creation of this product were based solely on these facts.

You can say its not a PC, or you don't like 'x' about it, but that wont change the fact that the creators of this device intended it as a PC. Sure though, you can say how poor or good of a job they did of doing this, at the end of the day, it wont change anything.

The decided to make this as a PC. deal with it.
[General Questions and Answers] GrievousMcG:
Lol - is this your way of implying that the x2 is in fact a tablet?

But no, the hunt still goes on for someone to root the slatebook. I just wish that HP has market this product better. The screen hasn't bother me since the last update so all in all, it's great product.
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
Jeez... if it is still going around like this. Did anyone aquire a way to access low level partitions of this awesome Computer :D

Actually, i am an app developer and i'd love to use this device for debugging as well. Since i sold my TF700 i have just a couple of smartphones and a '12 N7 for debugging. None of them running tegra 4 SoC though.

The most unsatisfying thing is, that i can't even reach the devices with its own built in Android debugging bridge (before anyone cries, i know it's just a lightweight variant of the real adb bin).
[General Questions and Answers] MinuteMan89:
Yep, he's said, guys. So he must be right. You must be vying for the marketing position in HP.

Why don't you record it and play it back to yourself, since you like the sound of your own opinion so much?

At least this is what one of the "most other people on here" thinks.

Oh btw, I'm not stating an opinion. I'm stating a fact. I must right.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
*facepalm* I had talked to two different people working at HP. Its not an opinion if I'm stating what information I got from the company's employees.

Forget it. I'm not even gonna bother.
[General Questions and Answers] pzz123:
HP Slatebook on sale

Very nice deal: $401 no tax, no shipping fee:

http://www.electronius.info/Hp-Slat...ia-Tegra-4-T40s-1-80-Ghz-Smoke-Silver-1313178
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Got it cheaper from HP
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
How much cheaper did u get it?
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
not that much.

It depends on your location as well. I'd suggest you go to HP and click through to the Check out. See the price and decide :)
[General Questions and Answers] aznmode:
I was just wondering. Bought mine for 449 + 5% discount when they had some promotion going on. But still had to pay tax. Already returned it a while back though since there was no root available.
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
What MicroSD card are you guys using? I'm thinking of getting one as 16 Gb of storage is running out with the 1 gb games.

what Class and Size?

thanks
[General Questions and Answers] blender3d:
I am using the 64GB Samsung micro SDXC class 10. It was the fastest card, my supllier has got. The only issue, i had to format it with FAT32 Filesystem.

Greetz
[General Questions and Answers] bobiscool07:
Were you able to move your apps to the SD? Don't think that option is available...