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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cowbell_Guy:
I need a rec for a phone coming out in the next month or two that will be rootable on verizon. That's honestly all I care about, that and processor and battery power...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
there's a difference between obtaining root and custom ROMs.

that being said, by far the easiest thing to have root and ROMs on is the nexus 6. if you want to go for a slightly older device, the LG g3 seems to have both too.

I'd generally stay away from Samsung these days due to their closeness with Verizon and locked down devices. sure, on the s4 as long as its running KitKat, root is easy, but on lollipop, not so much. I can't imagine what the s5 and s6 are like.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] s44:
Yes.

Yes, or you could try the GV trick to try to get the number off the original line (there is some risk though - you definitely don't want to lose the unlimited #). Since you already have an unlimited line on your account, you can apparently also still AOL a second unlimited line from someone else.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
A Public Service Announcement

If you want root, do not buy the Note 5 or Galaxy S6 Edge+ on Verizon. Rooting either phone will actually kill your device. Seriously.

source: http://xdaforums.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641

thank you all
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scryan:
So I posted here a while back, got tired of waiting to see unlock happen and got a moto x 2013 dev end.

No development community there, and still limited in that you can try new versions/leaks, because you can never downgrade your bootloader, so future updates will brick.

Anyways... Just got Nexus 6.... I realize soon enough there will be new version but price cuts have already begun.

64gig Nexus 6 is god damn sweet. Its really not THAT big of a phone, after a week it seemed pretty normal sized to me.

So far only this that hasn't been great is battery. Its OK, but definitely not "good".

Community is great and having full reign is awesome.

If your thinking about it, do it. Phone is already running Marshmallow builds, so you will be good for some time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cbmggm:
It's already been mentioned in this thread; the 2015 Moto X Style is launching in September. Starting at $399, carrier free, thru Motorola, Amazon, & Best Buy

Decent hardware specs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
been playing around with a T-Mobile s5 and threw cm12.1 on it.

holy fast

seriously the s5 is so fast and smooth and amazing with stock android. gee its almost like touchwiz isn't necessary.

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not to mention rooting it was as easy as flashing a kernel through odin.

and you could even skip rooting the device and flash twrp right away if you want to flash stuff
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Megan Rutix:
Samsung galaxy s4

Battery cover is smooth. Feel it's will be destroy any time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
I was experiencing missed calls with no notifications, poor wifi and mobile data connections and downloads, just lots of squirrelly problems on my GS4, running OC1 stock rooted.

So, I have been looking at Nexus 5 and 6, Moto X Pure and Style, etc. I don't want anything larger than 5". QHD would be nice, though, plus 3GB+ of RAM.

Well, I couldn't find what I wanted, and upgrading to OF1 Stock rooted seems to have sorted out all of my issues! It's still vulnerable to Stagefright, which is uncool, Verizon. But, the phone seems to have a new lease on life, so I am sticking with it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
I thought of1 fixed stage fright

Sent from S4 using the better than it was then they jacked it again Tapatalk
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
Looks like one CVE is still outstanding, according to the StagefrightDetector app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
I seen that. The outlook security one says it's OK. Wonder which one is correct. I know one of them had an false detection at one point but thought it was fixed.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
OK, Other Devices and Upgrading:

I had a great time on a week long camping trip to Yellowstone. Unfortunately, my phone fell out of my pocket at a campsite, and Rocky Mountain rocks can apparently break a screen right through a Zagg shield!

I have a new screen glass-only replacement kit coming, to be installed with LOCA glue. If I screw it up, however, my S4 will be shot.

I have been seeing the LG G3 new for $250, as well as Moto X sales, SGS5 in the mid-$150 range, etc.

My needs are Verizon LTE, root and tethering functional (Unlimited data grandfather). Wants would be 3GB RAM, CM12+ or Android Marshmallow forthcoming with root, QHD display, micro SD, removeable battery, not much bigger than the SGS4.

Anything other than the G3 that gives me that (sub-$400)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
Verizon Samsung devices will not meet any rooting needs.

I would personally go nexus 6 or 5x (nexus 6 will probably be cheaper now as the 5x and 6p just got announced and will be released soon), lg g3 is also a good choice

if you really want a moto vzw device with root, be looking to spend money on some tool (sunshine, mofo, etc)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
Thanks very much for taking the time to reply. I have to admit, I haven't put my research into whether I could get what I wanted on other vendor platforms.

I did find that I could get a SGS4 replacement for $114 on fleabay. If I do mess up my digitizer, I guess that I could transfer my motherboard to a new body and continue a while longer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gadget!:
I replaced mine but I bought the digitizer and glass complete assembly, as much trouble as I have putting on a screen protector I didn't want to risk trying to remove the glue and reattaching the digitzer.

They are fairly cheap now, when they first cam out the assembly was over 200.00. Now I bought mine from Amazon for 87.00.

They are pretty easy to change, just be careful when disassembling yours, there are a lot of videos on youtube but most of them don't tell you that there are 2 antenna wires (one on the left side and one on the right side). The connectors on those are very delicate and if you don't unplug them before taking it apart the ends will break off.

I bought on on eBay that was not OEM Samsung and the digitizer was bad, the seller refunded my money no questions asked but it was still a hassle.

This isa link to the original Samsung OEM one I bought from Amazon:

Link to Amazon OEM Samsung Galaxy S4 Digitizer assembly

Works great and my phone is like new again.

PS... All this to keep my 32gb MDK S4 :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
anyone interested in the new nexii? 5x or 6p?

me personally, really liking the 5x. definitely feel like 5 inches is my sweet spot, though idk. neither phone will be offered by Verizon, so you'll have to go through Google, but, both phones will work with Verizon.

unless Verizon pulls the **** they did with nexus 6s from Google store.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scryan:
Have you tried living with a bigger phone? I spent way too much time and energy worrying about "too big".

Went from the S4 to a moto x, and didn't want to go to some huge phone, and was pissed that the nexus was finally on Verizon but was a giant.

About a month ago a co-worker got an iPhone 6+, I held it for a second, put it in my pocket, it fit so I ordered a N6. Was really worried about the size. Then I used it for 20min and haven't thought about it since.

In reality, even the S4 was too big for all corners of the screen to be casually reached one handed. On every phone I have had I could reach all corners of the screen one handed if I was determined to do so, and could do 90% of normal tasks one handed... But throw my second hand on from time to time for comfort and easy of use.

Still true with the 6in phone. Its really not that big a deal. Taken as percentages the size changes are drastic. Just looking at it as a chunk of material that I hold and store in my pocket... Were talking like a centimeter different. Its really not that big of a difference.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
in actuality I feel like I could manage and get used to it. which is what most people seem to be doing these days with these bigger phones. but I'm probably not gonna have a new phone for a while due to my situation rn
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gadget!:
A few months back I bought a Note 3 on Swappa just to see if I could get used to s bigger phone.

After a month I realized that I really liked the Note and I could get used to the bigger size.

But when push comes to shove, I ended up keeping the S4 and selling the Note.

To me the S4 is just about the perfect size.

There is no doubt in my mind that my next phone will be bigger, I don't think there's going to be any way around it.

sent from a Galaxy far far away.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scryan:
Fair enough. I think the S4 was one of the first phones, or maybe part of the first generation where the hardware is fine. That is to say, computers are getting so damn good these days that even non performance stuff doesn't really have issues with day to day use... If your a gamer, or doing something special OK but I feel like these days software and form are becoming so much more important, because everything is capable.

When you do get ready, consider this... its what I did to re-assure myself.

If you use a case, buy the case before you order the phone. Take your old phone out of any case and rest it inside the new case. Yes it looks stupid.

I did this for a day or so, at least around the house. It let me hold the form of the phone I was considering, while navigating around my phone, and giving me an idea for how it would feel in pocket (with no phone in the case it will feel weird, put the old phone inside the case then both in your pocket. Just remember your phone isn't snapped into the case, so careful. Most cases are only $10 -$20, which is a cheap way to get a feel for what it will be like before dropping hundreds of dollars.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
oh wow. that's actually a nice tip, thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
hey, Gadget! is here! Thanks for all of your help on the old Thunderbolt. I went to the S4 finally, after many years of fine Thunderbolt use. I still have it, and man, is it a heavy brick. But, those were good times.

So, now that my S4 is broken, I want the same sort of thing (open ROMs, tethering without VZWs plan, etc). I am going to try to fix my S4 screen, but I just ordered a Verizon G3 off fleabay. I figured that I would evaluate both. If I still prefer the S4, my GF can use the G3 on AT&T. If I want to keep the G3, I just upgraded a bit. We shall see what pans out.

EDIT: Welp, despite the YouTube videos saying that if you keep your temperature under 200F, you won't burn your digitizer, I managed to destroy my S4 as I replaced the screen. I never exceeded 184F, yet the lower half of the digitizer gave up the ghost. On the upside, the new screen looks perfect with LOCA glue! Too bad I am locked out of the phone since the number pad doesn't register.

So, I have to bid the S4 a fond farewell. I am off to test the LG G3 on Verizon. If it sucks, I may get another S4, as decent ones can be had for $110 or so. Thanks to all in the community for the help and a good two years with the device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eddie Hicks:
I tried the S6 and I'm back to my S4. Verizon offered my wife and myself early upgrades if we switched to their unlimited calls and text service and traded our old phones, my S4 and her iphone 5 using the 24 month device payment plan. I kind of wanted a new phone but my wife definitely wanted the bigger iphone. So off to Best Buy we went where we usually get our phones. She loves her iphones and got a new iphone 6S. I got a black (looks more blue) 64gb S6. Of course I knew about the battery and expandable memory issue. I figured the memory problem would be resolved with the 64gb. My S4 is only 16gb and I have a 16gb SD card and I never ran out of memory. There is no question that the S6 is a much better device than the S4. Aferall it's 2 generations newer. I even bought a clear case and glass screen protector for it. The only real gripe I had was the battery life which was not as long as the S4. It would often use over 50% of battery on cell standby. We had 14 days to decide to keep the phones or not. Yesterday, the 13th day I decided to take mine back to Best Buy. My wife is keeping hers. She loves it. I just felt that though its a really nice phone minus the battery issue, it wasn't that much better to me. I wasn't happy enough with it to be tied down 2 years with it. I want to wait and see what's coming up the pike in the next few months. Since I turned in the S6 I'm still eligible for an early upgrade. My contract is officially over in early March. My S4 is still working great and doses everything I need it to do without issues and I'm glad I tried the S6 make me aware of that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hypertek:
broke my s4 digitizer the other day.. Was planing to maybe get the note5 or s6... but thinking about an app that I use that requires root (and thinking about the things id loose off the phone), i figured id just repair it.. so ordered the new screen on amazon last night.. hope it comes today. Then i will back up all my data and flash a new rom (im on hyperdriverom, and its been unstable so maybe something fresh will help)..

figured maybe its time to throw a 64gb microsd and extended battery in this now if all goes well. Still alot of life in the s4 imo! Still same size as all new popular phones!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoulderGeek:
Sorry to hear that. I had the same issue. I tried to repair my glass-only, and never got the digitizer over 182F. But, it still roasted and the bottom half wouldn't work. Everything else functioned after my repair, including the buttons. But, with the low viscosity loca glue I used, i fear that some got under the digitizer and might make it impossible or very hard to remove and try again. Another $90 on top of the $35 I already spent doing hte glass means the same cost as a refurb S4. The LG G3 is only $159 right now, and is an awesome platform, as well as the S4.

I'm on the G3, now, and loving it. Rootable, clean ROMs, tethering, etc. along with quad HD resolution and 32GB native.

Hope it works out for your S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
probably gonna get an lg g2 soon and stick my sim from my s4 in it. this phone is the biggest pain in the arse i've ever dealt with, thank god the cheaper g2s are only like $100ish on swappa. good luck to the rest of you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scristopher7:
Considering other device

Considering going to a nexus, any opinions? Anything else better out there?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AliceBToklas:
All depends on your needs by both of those seem like good phones. For my money I'd probably go for the Moto X Pure Edition as I really like having SD card support.

However, for the time being I'm sticking with my S4 until it dies or I give in to the urge to 'upgrade'.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skepticmisfit:
nexus 5x seems like my preferred 2015 device, if you want some good hardware with a great community, can't go wrong with an older lg g2/g3

get moto if you want 1 major android update and that's it, also lenovo crap
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
I decided if I'm going to be locked down on Verizon might as well go to the dark side at least it gets the updates from Apple. Will see how it goes if I can handle it. Kinda getting sick of wasting time rooting and roming and jumping through hoops every time a update comes out. Then the update doesn't even fix the security holes just blocks root.

Sent from S4 using the better than it was then they jacked it again Tapatalk
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inoyatov Abdurashid:
Please help mee to update 5.1.1

My device S4 Verizon

MK2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bilgerryan:
There is no 5.1.1 for this device. Simply download the latest tar from www.sammobile.com and run it in Odin with your device connected to your PC.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Inoyatov Abdurashid:
Bilgeeyan thanks for you.

And please how to download latest for my device? !!?

Please send me link for my device!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bilgerryan:
Click the link above, type in your device model, download newest tar.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] IamPro:
If you want an Note 2 just buy off Swappa or CL and sell S4.

Yea I am a little scared about the Note 3 in terms of bootloader but think its going to be the best device to get (if you can stand TW and get at least a root method out); I miss the big screen of the N2 but 1080p is great on the S4 (S600 is better then the Exynos in my experience)

I really like the optimization that the Moto X has, if they took that and put it w/ S800, 1080p, 3000mah battery that would be insane. Has far as upgrading to the Moto X thats up to you. HTC One def not, took too long to come out and they killed the dev for it :mad:

G2 is prob closest other thing I'd consider with the info I have now (Samsung continuing to force the home button does tick me off)

Somewhat considering holding on to my S4 but eventually this heat issue is gonna catch-up and I'll have to get it replaced with a locked down S4 which value has fallen by then.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ChugJugThug:
so far, i've been loving my S4. No complaints.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 1454:
Same here. My only complaints are the bootloader, no front facing speakers, I would rather a slightly smaller screen (Ie the x), a better radio, and slightly Larger battery. The main thing though is the bootloader, I just wish that was unlocked. The other issues are more than tolerable and just small personal issues. This is more of a nitpick list instead of actual issues though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sdsubball23:
Does anyone know how the radios are for reception and LTE compared to the Rezound? My rezound has good reception and ive been thinking about switching to the S4 but I want good reception
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 1454:
I have a rezound and I would say the rezound is slightly better in the lte dept. Well, actually overall. But the s4 is about 100x better than the gnex.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gadget!:
From my house my S4 reads -100dbm, my wife's Rezound reads -83dbm.

If I remember rightI, my gnex read around -110dbm.

I have never dropped a call.

Sent from a Galaxy S4... Far far away
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
I had the One for about a week and switch to the 4 heres my reasoning... I loved the way the one felt honestly better then the 4 but only without a case the lack of frame or bezel on the sides requires a case so the +1 on the feel of the metal gone as I am not foolish enough to not use a case. The one actually took better pictures mainly in low light. I thought I could overlook the idea of no access to the battery and icreasing memory for those features but in the end I was unable to. I hate sense and touchwiz equally as I have always ran some type of aosp rom on previous phones but its easy enough to run a different launcher to cover them up. If you are willing to send your one to someone you can both achieve root and s-off with the 4 on newest firmware only root.... for now. I dont think you can go wrong with either devise but the one imo is more for the defecto iphone user that realizes they shouldnt conform. Bloat.. remove or freeze what you can safely or hide it with some launchers if you just dont like to see it which is my case lol. I hope this helps you or anyone with making the choice between two very good devices.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sdsubball23:
do you know how the S4 does with data and reception in low signal areas compared to the Rezound?

I've heard some people say the S4's reception had been problematic for them over at another android forum
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 1454:
I have had trouble with it in low service areas that the rezound didn't. But not enough to go back to the Rezound. Also, I haven't noticed any issues since flashing the me7 modem. Not willing to go out on a limb and day that cured it, but it does seem to have helped.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
I will say this my thunderbolt running santods desensed ics seemed to have better data reception where the s4 stuggles. I work in a two story building with a lot of interference. On my TB would pull 12mb down about 3mb up with the s4 3mb down about 2mb up and I sit next to a window. Its not that big of a deal considering I am working lol. If I put my phone by the window data is awesome with 18mb downd and 6mb up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] docnok63:
Before my post was rudely close, I said I was going to get the Note 3. I was even mocked by [MENTION=3837325]Southern_mind[/MENTION] for starting the thread. Well, my "stupid" hands will be wrapped around one on or about the 10th of next month :good: :highfive: :victory: :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
Uh yeah that was almost a month ago. Now you could start the thread. So by the time you get the phone that would have been almost 2 months ago.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] docnok63:
You HAVE to be a teenager: thinking a month is a long time, calling people stupid, and trying to tell them when they can start a thread. Get real.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
No I'm not and I never said you were stupid I said the thread was. And yes I am real. Made of flesh and blood. And a lot can happen in a month. Let alone two months.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
I had the One for 1 month: I liked the phone except I was on Sprint and had no 4 G connections: very limited. With that being said, I think the One is decent but I think the S4 has the slight edge: better pics (though One did well in low light and has ZERO shutter lag, S4 still is decent in low light but far superior otherwise), lighter in weight, slightly faster processor, removable battery, removable microsd card, plastic body (I found the alum chassis on One got hotter), faster charging (One takes longer to charge), better fit (One is a bit longer and felt awkward in the hand and was slippery w/o case), flatter profile (One has a curved back which didn't sit well on a flat surface).

However, One has Sense which is somewhat cleaner than TouchWhiz (opinion varies) but I feel S4 is more fun in that respect when it throws in the kitchen sink as Samsung is known to do.

One is also unlockable on some carriers.

Try it and judge for yourself! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heisenberg1:
Thanks for the response. I only recently started thinking about the ONE since I'm on the Verizon network and it just recently became available). I am very tempted but you're right, i believe the S4 slightly edges out the ONE. And since my phone is rooted i don't mind TouchWiz as much anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
Mods it seems nobody wants to use this thread to discuss other phones people want to use one thread for one phone and another for another phone. I think we should close this thread and let the others be open.