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[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
Just right after I posted my message I noticed that the G2 doesn't have triggers. xD And yes, I know it doesn't have d-pad and I hate that (it will be very uncomfortable to play 2D games with the PSP-like analog), but at this time is the better option if you want a phone-gaming device. Yes, there's the i5, but it's still bigger, very uncomfortable to have it in the pocket for sure (if it fits, lol) and I find it very ugly. xD

It's impossible to find such a well balanced device between a console and a smartphone like the Xperia Play, but I have my X. Play since 2011 when it came out, and I am beginning to get annoyed with the incompatibilities of some apps with my X-Play, and I would like to have a more powerfull device and a bigger screen...:(

Well I had a Nokia 3300 and later a Nokia N-Gage (the big one), and now a Xperia Play. I am used to big-size mobiles xD but the Much i5 is too much. xD
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Much i5 is not biggest than a PSP Slim, in fact, i use a psp bag for carry in my belt.

the THL T100S smartphone is a little blit small than Much i5. after using Much i5 for some time (months), i get comfortable with this, but for my current usage, right stick are absolutly unnecesary, then something like Much G2 may be a good device for normal usage and casual gameplay, and more if you consider i always carry with two or more devices with me, my phone, and few android gaming devices, then my phone is a secondary gaming device (only when i´m not writing a review, or when i run out of battery on my other devices) XD

and yes, i prefer a proper DPAD, because my games are basically fighting games, but i can get casual gaming with analog stick and four buttons. Again, i don´t feel this is a perfect replace for X-Play, but is a good alternative for casual gaming that requires more than a screen for play candy crush saga. XD
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Hi!

today i confirmed i will receive in next days a sample of this device for reviewing (Thanks to Belchine)

If you want to ask anything to me about this new device, i will try to answer your doubts.

Greetings!
[Xperia Play General] TheDylantula:
Wow this thing looks amazing...
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
OMG I'll ask you later some things.

Thanks!
[Xperia Play General] snapuswip3:
I went for the jxd 7300, but the build quality was terrible and it quickly died :/
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Too bad dude, I have seen lots of jxd models in the electronics shops in Beijing., and most of them look quite flimsy. Low quality screens, and sticky, mushy buttons. And just overall cheap feeling. Granted most of the models, I've seen or played with at the shops were older models.

I like the build quality of my much i5, the screen is of good quality, and the buttons feel springy and nice. I like the resistance on the joystick, but the plastic they used to make the joystick is slick and cheap feeling, so it is not perfect. But it'll do for now, as I don't see anything better rolling down the line anytime soon.
[Xperia Play General] snapuswip3:
Ye I was gutted because for the few days it worked it was really good! Haha
[Xperia Play General] Leraeniesh:
These days I only really use my R800x for Super Metroid and Super Mario 3.

Nothing really beats the convenience of having the Play in your back pocket, but I've found using my buddy's Nvidea Shield to be pretty enjoyable :D
[Xperia Play General] dukedoom:
It's simple. Whenever you think a device is an Xperia Play alternative, ask yourself the following:

Does it have an integrated gamepad that masks within the phone, giving it the ability to appear as a totally common phone when you are not gaming?

If not, then it isn't an alternative.
[Xperia Play General] Miles Wolf:
Some questions I have in mind...

1- First of all, photos, photos, photoooos!!! xD Photos comparing it with the Xperia Play (front and side please).

2- How's the build quality?

3- Comparison of the stick with the one of the PSP (they're sililar I think).

4- How's the stick on 2D games (emulators for example).

5- How's the support of the device from its developers? (Android updates, etc.).

6- How are the buttons? Can they be used to go through the Android menus like in the Xperia Play?

7- Comment how easy is to map buttons for the emulators.

8- How is the support of the stick on the games and the emulators?
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
yes, all your questions are part of mine set of testing and showcase.

1- i don´t have xperia play now, but i have some other device that i can compare.

2- hope, if the same as Much i5, then will be a very good quality product

3- of course, i will compare with all comparable devices.

4- this is one of my concerns, but i think i will focus my review on the target public/user that is more casual, or android oriented gaming, but of course i will try to play emulators such Mame and similars and will try to bring my feeling with the device.

5- if the same as Much i5, then will be... good, but can be improved. In fact, Much people contact to me today to tellme that the list of suggestions i post in dingoonity they are working on it. This is a very good news for all Much i5 users (and hope we will receive a proper joystick driver in some future update)

6- The same as point 4.

7- If is based on the Much i5 mapper, then will be so easy to map. ^_^ (i love the much mapper, except the last update)

8- the same as point 4... and here i need to check if the device come with a proper joystick driver. Anyway, if the device have not a joystick driver, most probably will link an analog stick and dpad to work together. if the case, most emulators will be mapeable directly as digital stick. (and for analog, you use the on screen mapper). this is the current case of Much i5, but may change this in future updates, if Much add a real joystick driver for the stick.

but, let me get the device and check it. All things i´m telling here are only assumptions.

Greetings!
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Bad news guys. My much i5, is a bit broken. I don't know what happened. Maybe it was a static shock or some moisture got under my screen. But the touch screen doesn't work correctly now. Only the left side (the side closest to the dpad) works. So navigation now such. And mist things are near impossibe to do. Anybody else know how to fix a faulty touch screen.?
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
this appear that you twisted your screen, probably you get the device in your pocket?

sorry, i don´t know how to fix it. may be send a mail to much people asking for parts costs.

in another hand, may be you can use some app that convert your sticks on mouse, and use this device only for gaming. (without touchscreen is hard to use as phone)

sorry dude
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Shoot. That is too bad. It was in my pocket all day before I noticed the problem. I will take it to the tech store when I get back home next week. See if they can figure it out. Typing truly sucks, and it is impossible to answer calls with that side of the screen not being responsive. if it is broken and I can't get it fixed at a reasonable and convenient price, I'd appreciate your input for a good replacement.
[Xperia Play General] Trooper_Max:
Thought ya'll might be interested in this:

http://aethertechnician.tumblr.com/post/83141448363/flippypad-for-project-ara-have-you-heard-about

It's a hinged controller idea for Project Ara idea... so obviously still a ways off...

~Troop
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
Much G2 Review

http://manguiro.blogspot.com/2014/04/review-ireadygo-much-g2-quad-core-5.html

When i get some time, i will post here in the forum. (i must generate a summary for posting here)
[Xperia Play General] RoboticBuddy:
This looks pretty nice, but sadly it only has the left analog stick + 4 ABXY buttons.
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
Second Much i5 with issues

I've said many great things about the Much i5, but these issues must be shared. My 1st much i5 started having audio issues a couple weeks after unboxing. The sound would start 'tearing' and eventually I lost all phone audio. Bluetooth and headphones still worked, so it seemed like it was a problem with the front speaker. This was early November 2013. It took 3 months (early Feb 2014) to get my new much i5, and it costed me $30 shipping. Apparently, the problem was too much to repair. Now, even after the system update, 3 months later, my new much i5 has the same issue. The worst part about it is that the device can't be used as a phone with this issue, so it defeats the whole purpose, for me. Willgoo's warranty is 60 days, so I'm gonna have to pay some random electronics dealer to try and fix it, and who knows how that'll turn out. I've switched back to my Xperia Play, but I'm just so disappointed that this happened. If it weren't for these issues, I'd still say its the best alternative to the xperia, but I can't say that with confidence anymore.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
I haven't had that problem with mine, but I sent mine back to the manufacturer for a broken screen and they fixed it for $20. I live in China though.

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BTW...

Anybody know the latest firmware for the much i5 and a link to get it?
[Xperia Play General] Red_Kop:
On the iReadyGo Much i5...do you hold it like a phone when speaking or on it's side like an n-gauge?
[Xperia Play General] Deen0X:
is like a phablet. is biggest than a normal phone, but not so much about any phablet.

for me is comfortable, because the micro is near to my mouth and i don´t have any need to scream (as other small smartphones) to talk with this, in fact, i can speak in normal or low volumen, and the other person in the phone can hear to me without problems.

and, if you´re asking about the first ngage... no, there is no need to put i5 in the edge to talk. you use in normal way, with the screen to your face as any other smartphone.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
I will be going back to live in USA soon. Will the major telecom companies Sim cards work with the much i5?

If so, which is suggested? I was thinking of getting a T-Mobile prepay Sim card.
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
http://en.jd.com/product/78dian-p01...l-standby-wcdma-smartphone-black/1172938.html

Here is another monster of a gaming phone
[Xperia Play General] Flaîm:
it looks beautiful, but wasnt that the one with the 52hz screen refresh rate and without joystick drivers?

btw. does someone have a disassembly guide on the much i4?

would like to try and open up mine to fix the drop of connection to my simcard (i.e. about every 2 minutes it drops the current task and asks me for the PIN code)
[Xperia Play General] Baltyre:
I had an xperia play few month ago, i'm now using a S4 and since i miss gaming, i bought a Impulse controller.

http://www.impulsecontroller.com/

So far, so good. I try few bluetooth controller before and even if they are great, they usually don't leave my place.

Now with impulse controller, i have always a working gamepad controller with me.
[Xperia Play General] DrROBschiz:
http://obscurehandhelds.com/?p=2778

We are getting closer!

They have the right idea but DAYUM at 5 inches. This phone rivals the Note in size

If only they could shrink it down a tad more to be about the size of an S3.

Thank you China. You almost have an adequate successor to the Xperia Play. Keep it up
[Xperia Play General] Dilemina:
Much W1 / iReadyGo 78dian p01 Gaming Phone - Quic…: http://youtu.be/QvfvqGr26P4

Thought you might find this interesting.
[Xperia Play General] psxpetey:
To bad its only 2g if they had an lte version id buy one right now lol
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
bluetooth goes a long way if using the device in formal areas is a concern, and thankfully it has bluetooth 4.0 so it wont drain battery as fast
[Xperia Play General] |SavageD|:
True, however...I have strange ears, lol. They are shaped like an elves ear, only smaller with a small fold at the top and a tiny bump at the edge. they are also really sensitive. I own bluetooth headsets but could only wear em for 10-15mins before they I take them off. In-ear headsets are even worse because they slide out constantly. Over ear headphones work for me, but if the drivers so much as touch my ear even slightly, it becomes irritable. Indeed, I face a huge predicament when it comes to headphones.

But you're right, using bluetooth headsets would go a long way. It's just not an option for me.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
That is certainly an odd problem you have, I can't offer much more advice other then use the phone proudly in public and dont give a damn about what others think
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
With a lot of talk with work and age it got me curious about who is owning gaming phones. I'm 19 and in college and game every chance I get that's why I enjoy the xperia and my new i5. How about everyone else? Don't answer If giving this information makes you uncomfortable I'm just curious.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
26, looking for IT technician work/ while doing some self study, i feel that people in my field would have a greater appreciation for this type of device and if not, the bluetooth headset is ready and waiting

i dont game as much as i used to but i want to change that during my down time, and not having to always be in front of a desk or flat screen to play games is a plus :)
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
28, married with kids. So I can pretty do whatever I want to do, or look like the biggest loser on Earth and it wouldn't matter. Not much time to play games in general, so mobile gaming is most convenient. I ran out of GBA and SNES games to play on Xperia Play, and I hated playing N64 games without analog. So the i5 is opening up a whole new collection of N64, DS, and hopefully PSP games for me to play on the go. Although, I can no longer sneak and play at work like I could with my xperia.

And if your date can't respect that your a gamer, you need to find another date.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
im kinda annoyed, i ordered on wednesday from willgo, its now saturday and still have no dispatch email, tracking, my willgo account still says processing just like the very first day i ordered and to top it off, they have not replied to even one of my emails
[Xperia Play General] fvig2001:
[MENTION=882294]The Guy[/MENTION]s that have this device, I have a few questions:

1. How is the Jelly Bean OS? I hear it's still Chinese all over. Is it true?

2. Any custom roms out?

3. I heard there was an issue with the moon button that pressing it sometimes exits the application even when mapped properly in game. Is that true?

4. How is the phone when used vertically?

5. How is the 3G of this device?

6. Will the analogs not break at some point when left in your pocket constantly?

7. If you needed a gaming android device only, would you get the i5 or an Nvidia Shield (I use a Galaxy Note 10.1 but I don't have a compatible video card yet)?
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
1)The OS is in full English or whatever you choose. It's very beautiful only downside is there is no app drawer so it's sort of like a mix of android and ios. but if you don't like it there's always launchers:D

2)It has just gotten big so no roms at the moment but I'm hoping in the future there will be.

3) no issues at all with the moon button at all they don't do anything until you map it unless it's an xperia play optimised already.

4)Just the same as any other phone. Your OS home screen won't turn vertically though but that doesn't bother me.

5)not sure if it helps but, I havn't tried it with 3g yet but I've used it over wifi and it's flawless.

6)I personally was scared of this so I got a 3dsxl case with pull stings to protect it it works and fits real good. ( I'll post a pic below) I would just be careful when putting it in your pocket don't just shove it. But willgoo is supposed to be getting accessories soon to protect it.

7) for just gaming no phone I would go with the shield but there are some downsides. No button mapping, and I heard some complaints about the analog placement, also more money.

Hoped this helped any other questions please ask.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I'm sorry about you situation just give them more Time I'm sure it'll get worked out.
[Xperia Play General] Red_Kop:
This looks great:

1. Any input lag at all, from the videos it looks a little slow?

2. How is it as a phone? Where do you talk? How do you hold it? Is it like NGAGE?

3 How is the GPS? Works good?

4. Is the dpad good? What console pad would you compare it to?

5. What is the camera like? Good quality? Flash?

Thanks
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
tracking details finally arrived but it looks like it was only posted on saturday, i can live with that, as long as its on its way to me
[Xperia Play General] ozzmanj1:
I'm 35 married with two kids. I own my own business, I work from my home office, but game when I can. My wife thinks I'm one of the kids, of course only when I'm gaming. LOL.
[Xperia Play General] ma_ko:
I wish I were you :P Anyway those devices don't look interesting for me. As long as there will be no real alternative to our XPlay (phone+decent physical gamepad/gaming buttons) I'll stick with my lovely device ;)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
1) I feel no lag at all very smooth.

2)its just like any phone the screen will be to your face also its kind of like talking on a galaxy note some people actually thought it was at first.

3)works very good nice look too.

4) works good its like a mix. It looks like an xbox but it has a nice click feeling like Nintendo (can't stand the xbox's squishy feel)

5) I absolutely love the camera good quality not the best but very good. It has so many features like a 360 picture that when your viewing it you turn your phone too view more. And the screen panorama is awesome is one of the best I've seen.

Thank you for the questions if you have more please ask.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Forgot to mention everything on the phone can be controlled by the physical buttons and I find myself using the dpad instinctively.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Antutu benchmark
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
im surprised no one asked but what is the battery life like with normal use and when gaming?
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
It last all day for me during a normal day with light playing.

Today I had all day off so I woke up at 12 o'clock. I literally have not stopped hardcore playing with WiFi on except to eat and its now 6 o'clock. I still have 50% battery so you could get 10-12 hours of hardcore playing easily.

Standby uses nothing. I had a busy day a couple days ago. I went about 5 hours without checking my phone and only lost 1%.

Thanks for the question if you have any others please ask.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Side note: sound is amazing! I thought the xperia play was loud. This thing is a monster!
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
nice, everything sounds so good and considering the gaming buttons and 3g/gsm you would have thought it would cost more

also, i know the specs say it supports up to 32GB micro sd card but a lot of phones that say that actually support 64gb sd cards as well

so if you have one or could get your hands on one and check that would be great
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Sorry I don't have one or know anyone that does so I can't test that. I turn would buy one but I'm short on money as well maybe someone else can.
[Xperia Play General] fvig2001:
I'd like to ask a few more questions.

1. How are the diagonals of the direction buttons? Can you easily perform shoryukens and fireballs since some of my Nintendo gamepads needed some training for it to be able to perform these moves every time.

2. How do the analogs feel? Are they like the nub of the PSP, circle pad of a 3DS or like the 360's/PS3's?

3. Do the analogs feel cheap? I've had dual shock 2 knock-offs where the analogs half the time do not return to the center.

4. Can the analogs be assigned as buttons through the on-screen button mapper?

5. Is the analog mapper available in English (I haven't seen an english screenshot yet)

6. Do you honestly think that this phone won't be outdated in the next year (given the benchmarks you gave)

7. Are the nubs clickable like on the 360 and dualshock controllers?

8. Is it true that there is a problem when pressing L+R+ left/right direction keys? Apparently it acts as a menu button or back.

9. Is HDMI out cable included?

10. Is google play market available out of the box? If no, is it easy to make it work?

11. How solid does the device feel? I've dropped my Xperia Play many times and I was never worried, I did however split the back cover a bit due to opening it a lot.

12. How does the display look when both screens of drastic are set to the same size?

Thanks!

I may end up getting this since I'm kind of getting annoyed getting my phone to use Jelly Bean since my Internet hates the dev-host site and sometimes the hardkeys don't work on the OS for some reason but they work well on CWM and seeing the scratched off metal finish on my xperia play mildly annoys me.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
some bad news for me, i believe willgo have given me a fake tracking number in order to buy themselves some time

when i enter the tracking number into the DHL site it only says "shipment information received", this is after 3 days of them already having the shipment
[Xperia Play General] wrc1010:
The latest firmware 5.3.15 already can suppory 64gb sdcard in exfat format.
[Xperia Play General] silvacrest:
great, thanks

now i just need the phone to arrive

also, the DHL tracking just updated after 4 days so that nice too :)
[Xperia Play General] mehdi.moha:
does anyone knows how can i buy " much i5 " on the norway ?
[Xperia Play General] wrc1010:
Get it from willgoo.com
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
1. Like the newer Xbox controllers when the diasgonals are lifted, and there's a setting to use or ignore the d-pad diagonal inputs.

2. Like PSP but smaller and smooth. Would be better if grippy, but the smaller size allows your thumb to fit over the top so controls aren't bad unless your thumbs are sweaty

3. They look cheap, but feel good. No issues with misalignment. Can't speak on endurance yet of course

4. Yes

5. Yes, everything was default to English. Although, some Much-specific apps are in Chinese. Haven't needed those though.

6. Your phone will always be outdated next year. iReadyGo has already mentioned an 8-core for later this year. But this will probably be the best android gaming phone for the coming year. It will take several years before the majority of new android games won't work on it.

7. No

8. Yes, but they seem limited to three button combos involving the shoulder buttons. Dingoonity has discussed this alot, so there may be solutions there

9. No

10. Yes

11. Looks well made, but I wouldn't drop this thing. There's no way it's as durable as Xperia Play is. And I'd use a card to gently pry open the back, not your finger.

12. Drastic looks good in this view. In the large/small display, the small is too tiny, but I think thats the point of that view anyway.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I agree with everything except the analogs they are most like Ps vita (a tiny dualshock analog)
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
TAKING A POLL

Who all:

1) owns a much i5 or i4

2) has one ordered

3) is considering getting or saving up for one.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Just noticed after you peel the film off the cover it still has an extra screen protector like the xperia play does.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Where did you here about the 8core Ireadygo phone. Do you happen to have a link.
[Xperia Play General] eskimo227:
Yes, sorry that's what I meant.

Google "MediaTek 8-core". There's a good number of websites with articles on it.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
Google "MediaTek 8-core". There's a good number of websites with articles on it.[/QUOTE]

Thanks will do.
[Xperia Play General] insane5125:
I couldn't find anything relating the mediatek 8core and ireadygo phone together?