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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] vnevoa:
WHAT THE HECK?!?!?!

Does anyone know what the hell this guy is talking about????

He states that he can "Listen to Stereo audio over Bluetooth with HTC Magician NOW !"

Check it out at: http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/view.php?newsid=370

However, he doesn't really say what must be done!... smells like BS to me...

OR: could it be that the simple fact of pairing a STEREO bluetooth handsfree/headset unlocks the "streaming" feature?? I really don't believe this, but... If that is true, then all we had to do is change the registry capabilities of a normal "mono" headset and trick the magician into thinking the headset is stereo...

Anyone have any insight on this?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] medicor:
Yes, good idea, does anyone know how to do that?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jackleung:
Re: WHAT THE HECK?!?!?!

Why don't U people look around first before posting any question??

1. It has been said MANY MANY times on this thread. Currently, there is NO WAY to make "voice prompt over bluetooth headset" to work on magician. All we have right now is "activating a program of your choice (eg: MS voice command, Cyberon Voice Commander) using yr bluetooth headset button". And it's STILL yr magician (not yr BT headset!!!!) picking up the voice prompt.

2. Stereo Audio over "stereo bluetooth headset" (A2DP) is possible w/ a MS Stack Add-on (but lots of limitations). Read this thread which always stay in the first page on this forum: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=33532
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] vnevoa:
Take it easy, dude...

Take it easy, Jack!!!

I did. I read

this

thread very carefully.

I know that. I read

this

thread very carefully. But the key word here is "currently"!

Now this I didn't know!! Sorry for not being aware of that thread...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] boh113:
VCABT & the A2DP patch

Hi all, fantastic work especially to Paul!

I was wondering if the use of both the VCABT and A2DP will send audio through to the bluetooth headset when using M$ VC?

I know currently VCABT is not able to do this but combined with the A2DP patch????

Either way keep the fantastic work going and i lok forward to your break through!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Mister2:
Having problems

First, thanks to all you programmers who come up with this great stuff.

I have purchased astereo headset to get this to work better

This cab installed fine, as did voice command, but now no audio works on the device for WMA/WMV files and I get a connection failed everytime I start a file - I think this has to do with the headset (Jabra BT250v), and/or that I have not deleted the following

How do I go about deleting:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device\**YOUR BLUETOOTH DEVICE ADDRESS**\Services

I am a beginner - step by step please. ANy other tips are appreciated.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rustoss:
Hi you wrote this long time ago!!! I took registry & add it ([HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\M­icrosoft\Bluetooth\AudioGatewa­y]

"MapAudioToPcmMode"=dword:0 ) before i has practice with this try it if you didn`t yet, i730 has the same MS stack with ours magicians, so when i create new reg ("MapAudioToPcmMode"=dword:0) no sounds on my handsfree(was beep) then i change it to dword:1 & can hear a little beep again. That files are good example for experiments!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shethpe:
VACBT for hp 6515

Has anyone tried this with the hp 6515 runnung WM03. It would be nice to be able to start a call from bluetooth via a button press
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] John_Doe:
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Приложение с кнопки гарнитуры запускается без проблем, но звук с гарнитуры не идет... Распознает только если говорить в микрофон кпк.. В чем проблема?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] telnetvoice:
latest News

hi,

paul, whats the latest news on this mate..

thanks

telnetvoice
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] dodonet:
i have dopod 818 pda phone.

now update rom to 828(cht)

bout voice command.can't wroks.

so i need to help.

thank you.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] sely:
Try this link for VCBT activation

www.jetwaremobile.com/beta.htm.

It worked on my Jamin except I have to talk very loud to get it to work.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] taron:
Hi all,

FYI, voice command activation will work directly with Voice Command 1.6.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] amayfield@northhighland.c:
Brand New Sprint PPC 6700 and Voice Command - no activation and cant close connection

I have read through the countless pages of threads regarding this subject....

After the registry edit, I no longer had the confusion between the original voice dialer and VC. But I still had no VC avtivated by the connect button on my H700 headset (I can press the device program button for VC and hear it in the BT headset, command it as well as hear the Media Player stream).

I found that by enabling HKLM-Software-OEM-voicecommand-LaunchAPEnable (set to 1) the program launched finally. All VC services work at this point.

However, I cannot close the connection or activate another vc command with the BT headset until I place and end a call with either the phone or the BT headset button. The phone dialer will close the BT connection and allow another VC session to occur with the BT headset. Unfortunately, If you you use VC to launch media or anything other than a call, you cannot use VC again until the dialer closes the BT connection and resets the voicecommandenable flag back to 0 (in the registry).

It seems I am so close to getting it all to work.....if the BT headset would simply shut off the BT connection regardless of the device mode (media, phone, etc.) and reset the voicecommandenable flag back to 0 - I would be home.

Any thoughts.....I am way out of my league????
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] 2ma:
I would like to have a question.I read the full topic,and I got it work with my qtek s110 and with ms voice commander.how ever,i would like to use vito voice commander.First of all,there is no Voice Signal Launcher.exe in my \windows.

When I copy the vitos exe file in it and rename it,it doesnt work.Can anyone help me?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] ZeroM:
erm, i did the same yesterday. on my magician, the voice commander.exe is not in /windows but in the root directory and it works fine, except that you have to use system mic/speaker for the voice command. is there anything new about this?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] 2ma:
thank you very much!!so the trick is,that the file is not in \windows, then its in the root directory!now it works me too!thank you and of course thanks to all who made this possible!!great job!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] phcdpro:
Voice Control (again)

Sorry if this is a repeat question, but I have been searching all day and *another* thread with 27 pages is just too much.....

I have a VPAc and a BT Headset Motorola H500. What I would LIKE to have is the ability to control the VPAc via the H500 - that is, activate the BT connection with a headset tap and then speak the commands, whether to start a program or dial a number. Whether MS Voice Command or VITO or another similar program is secondary - just as long as the voice control works....

In another 75 page thread there seems to be a fix which allows this, but I'm not 100% sure if my system is compatible with the ones listed.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? :confused: Thanks....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] voiceprob:
qtek 9000 MS voice commander 1.6 handsfree voiceenable !

qtek 9000 MS voice commander 1.6 handsfree voiceenable !

It doesn't work , but now http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm :) I have this ?!!!

But the voice down in my pocket PC. I want that Handsfree is only "ON", not "OF" after click?...:mad:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] voiceprob:
qtek 9000 MS voice commander 1.6 handsfree voiceenable !

It doesn't work , but now http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm :) I have this ?!!!

But the voice down in my pocket PC. I want that Handsfree is only "ON", not "OF" after click?...:mad:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] voiceprob:
qtek 9000 MS voice commander 1.6 handsfree voiceenable !

qtek 9000

It doesn't work , but now http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm :) I have this ?!!!

But the voice down in my pocket PC. I want that Handsfree is only "ON", not "OF" after click?...:mad:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] MEMAM:
HTC Magician (imate JAM)

I used the extension: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm , on my i-mate JAM, now I can activate voice command 1.5 but still the voice is not in my bluetooth. Also the I cannot give command from the Bluetooth Headset, but only from the phone mic!!. I'm not willing to move to imate KJAM or Windows Mobile 5, it there a possible way now to let the voice goes in the bluetooth or this issue will never happen :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] MEMAM:
Once more, is there any one who reached something regarding trasnfering the audio stream to BT headset from i-mate JAM (HTC Magician). I read in some forums that updating ROM will do it. Is that true?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] MEMAM:
hey

Any body still alive here?!!!!!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] S1lent Echoes:
Yeah, I reported the exact same issue a few posts back and an update is supposedly in the works.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] otyg:
works here too
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] docc:
Well, i really dont know how u want me to dump the BT stack. Not only the BT stack but there are plenty of add-ons in the M500 that are a real treat. If u guys can point me in the right direction, then i will be more than happy to help out.

Docc.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Download the M500 Registry from

http://www.rmg.me.uk/jam/Eten_M500_Reg_backup7-25-05.rbk

(Thanks to Mike from HoFo)

Anyone know what app can be use to view this on a PC ?

Also, is there a way to reshow the ext rom on a jam after the link has been deleted? Could this be used on the M500?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/18/review_orange_spv_m500/page2.html

Please Please Please Please Please can anyone with an M500 confirm if you can initiate voice dial from BT headset and wether you can issues commands through headset.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
What about this app:

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic?t=8422#42271

does it work on the jam?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
I'm pretty sure the Orange M500 supports voicedial over bluetooth, so all we need to do is get a hold of the rom and flash our Magicians.

It was the same case with the Orange C500 - its the same stack as other devices only they write a custom driver / dll that converts the AT Bluetooth commands to interface with the (non MS) Voice Commander software.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Hi Paul that is great info. Would we need to flash the whole rom or could we just lift the dll?

There are a few M500 owners on Modaco so I have asked for clarification there.

http://www.modaco.com/Orange_SPV_M500_REVIEW_-t223296.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
The following is taken form a review of the M500 (The Register). While not perfect it does seem to indicate that BT voicedialing does work.

"I thought I'd try it with a Bluetooth headset, but while the M500 paired with my Motorola HS850 first time round, it didn't work as expected with VoiceDial. While the software picks up what you're saying, it doesn't relay information back to the headset, so unless you can hear the handset's speaker, you can't tell if it's recognised your voice correctly. I'm still not certain the M500's own microphone wasn't picking up my voice rather than the HS850, but I think I was far enough away to trust the headset in this case. Taking VoiceDial's recognition on trust too, I just said yes after a suitable interval - it asks you to confirm or reject what it thinks you've said - and was always put through to the right phone."

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
FYI - Bad news

http://www.modaco.com/Orange_SPV_M500_REVIEW_-t223296.html

So it looks like working out what ETEN have done is the only way forward.... Anyone looked at th reg dump yet?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Grab the latest eten M500 rom as an exe from http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/updates/

have a look and see what you can find!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] qatramiz:
has anyone been able to extract the CAB files from the Extended ROM from Eten.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] L33uk:
I have an Orange SPV M500, and voicedial is not working for me (over Jabra BT200 headset), but if I can be of help in any way just let me know..........
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
I have extracted all the files from the Eten rom - although it does not contain the extended rom. Does anyone have a copy of the eten registry?

I know that the files will probably be XIP so we cant just move them over to the Jam but I'm going to have a wee go and see what I cna do anyway.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Looking through the files I do see some interesting things..

There is a voice control service and daemon that looks like it would maybe run ok if moved over to the jam, and there is also the following..

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C6]

"ResetFlag"=dword:00000009

"Icon"="\\windows\\BluetoothManager.exe, 0"

"Name"="Bluetooth Headset Button"

"Flags"=dword:00000009

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Services\00001108-0000-1000-800

"BthHeadsetHelper"=dword:0

@="Headset"

I'm at work at the moment but I managed to send the bluetoothmanager.exe to my phone and run it - it seems to run and functon ok - it seems to be some sort of more advance control panel to the default on.

When I get home I'll investigate further :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] dr.:
Good luck!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] qatramiz:
:idea: :?:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
http://www.rmg.me.uk/jam/Eten_M500_Reg_backup7-25-05.rbk

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rmg.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Fantastic, Thank you for all your efforts so far. I am happy to host whatever you need and to test anything you create. Hopefully some more nice E_M500 owners will join us from HoFo and offer to help with Ext Roms etc.

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rmg.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Thanks for the reg file, however its in some sort of compressed backup format - would it be ok for you to take an export of the registry rather than a backup.

Thanks in advance.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Hi,

I have a jam, not an Eten M500. A friend on HoFo did the backup, using phm regedit. I will contact him via pm and ask him to do an export (using the same app I assume).

Unless there is an Eten owner here who can do it quicker?

Will get back you you :-)

On another note, would it be possible to send me the bluetoothmanager.exe from the EM500 so I can have a look at it?

email is rmgwm yahoo co uk

cheers.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Hope this is what you need Paul.

http://www.rmg.me.uk/jam/eten_m500_mike_4_rmg.reg

Regards.

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rmg.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Thanks,

I've not been able to get the voice commander software to work. The software is made by eten using the cyberon VC DSK. This is also what HTC did to get BT voice dialling on the C500 and it seems tied to the device and wont run (code check?) unless I can maybe find something in the registry.

It seems that the BT stack is the same as the Jam. There is a Voice Command daemon that runs on startup and I think this is what picks up the BT headset button press.

I can send you the file or if you prefer here is how to extract the files yourself. I got the file from here.

http://dl2.rapidshare.de/files/3448565/1295701/EUU_M500_WWE_R05_100_0039.exe

When you run the install it will unpack files into your temp dir (under your local settings profile). Keep going through the installer until a large file is created in the temp dir called TEMP.DAT. Copy this file somewhere and use the dumprom.exe utility to extract the files.

Dumprom can be found here.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/dumprom.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
hmm, i cant get the exe from rapidshare. it says my IP has used too much bandwith. please could you email the file to me. thx.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Try here...

http://www.beyondthetech.com/downloads/phone/updates/
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
ahh cool i diddnt realise that was the same one. do you think a vanilla version of cyberon vc would work? or is the way forward to try and ger it working with ms voice command?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
sorry to be thick mate, I have dumprom.exe and temp.dat (42.4mb) in a folder, what do I do now?

I have tried typing dumprom temp.dat -d files >jam.txt in dos and have the txt output but im not sure how to output the files to a folder

ohh cancel that, just got it working :-)

but bluetoothmanager.exe will not run, it says cannot find btaudiogw.dll

ahh, hang on, its is working, but I need to find that dll !

I have hosted the exe at

http://www.rmg.me.uk/jam/BluetoothManager.exe

next step might be to get that dll?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Hmm, its interesting

had a couple of complaints about flight mode but its working now.

It wont let me select a headset but I assume that that might be down to the missing dll...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] hlc1971:
Been reading posts here often but never posted anything.

ANYWAYZ! I've found a cab file with the dll you're looking for rmg! Maybe this can help you (us) out ;)

http://home.wanadoo.nl/hlc/BTCAB/BT_Headset.CAB

enjoy!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Thanks mate. I tied that but I still get an error on first load. I will wait and see what Paul the expert comes up with ;-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Baldrick45:
Further improvements to Eten Voice Command?

I've been following this thread for a while now waiting for someone to say "Eureka". I don't want to muddy the waters or move the goalposts when we have had some recent progress but I note from HoFo that the M500 has had a further Rom Upgrade released (V039)

<EDIT: Oops - I'd missed the start date on the Hofo thread - I see we are already aware of the update - Apologies to all - but the declared improvements are still impressive aren't they? - Baldrick45>

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=689787&page=3&pp=15

Among the declared improvements (Eten official info on the upgrade) are;

Improvements (ROM 0039)

1. Compatibility issue with iTech BT earset -- solved

2. Sleep -->re-activate leads to reversal of camera icon on screen -- solved

3. GSM signal strength indicator (bar numbers) now shows correctly and refresh time shortened

4. Handsfree mode-->BT, voice cannot come through -- solved5. SDIO program now works when re-activated from sleep mode

6. New, enhanced version of Voice Command program

7. Support external USB Host

And while none of the posts are mentioning any changes to VC as yet, at least one reports much greater reliability/compatability with bluetooth headsets and car-kits.

The Hofo thread has DL links to the new ROM. Can I suggest our experts here consider making this their working file set for exploring for DLLs/comparing registries etc. May as well work off the best the competition is offering!

By the way, anyone know if the base hardware between the Magician & M500 is close enough that we too might hope for USB host mode at some point? That strikes me as another fantastic facility to have a chance to use. (Magician to USB Memory stick anyone?)

Baldrick45
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Right, I've got the BT Manager working without error. And I also have the voicecommander add working.I still need to figure out which file loads up the voice app when the button is pressed? Will post details when I have time later. The only thing I'm confused about is that there is nothing in the registry dump relating to the voice commander software?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Paul,

Do you think it will be possible to make the headset button press map to any file, like the other hardware buttons? or will it only load the voice commander software?

Also, I wonder if yourt efforts so far have got audio gateway working, i.e. system sounds transmitted over bluetooth?

Looking forward to a full update! I might have to buy you a beer or ten for this ;-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
I've being reading the Microsoft PocketPC development files and here what I've found.

The Microsoft stack supports both the hands-free and the headset profiles out of the box. But MS only implement the supporting code for hands-free and this works as expected on our devices. When you press the headset button on our bluetooth headset the softwares does detect the keypress (as all is it is really at AT modem command - something like AT+VCT or something). However the stack does nothing after this. as there is no extensions loaded to handle the profile after this.

The Bluetooth API does let developers developed extension files that can hook into the bluetooth stack and take action on the AT commands.

What happens with the ETEN is the voice commander software has a background daemon (startup program) which hooks into the hands-free profile and makes it act like a headset profile - it seems they dont actually implemement a proper headset profile. The daemon detects the headset press and fires up the voice commander software etc.

I've never really programmed in C or for the pocket pc but it seems like it would be easy to write a small extension to detect and take action on the headset press, routing the autio etc would probably take a bit more code.

I'm still pretty sure that we could get the voice commander software to work though - but I think I'm missing some registry entries.

I've tried copying all the Voice commander files to the windows directory on the device and loading in the voice commander service - I can get the service to load but I cant get the voice commander to start. If I however copy the whole contents on the ETEN rom to a folder on my storage card it all works fine from there, so I need to find out what files its still requiring to be compied to the windows dir so it works from there. Hopefully once this is sorted and then we can get the software to work properly.

Does anyone know how to enable the debug logging in the bluetooth code? I know there is registry entires but changing them seems to do nothing. If would be goof if I ccould get the stack to log debug output so I can see whats going on etc as it would save alot of the trial and error I am doing.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
I know this info is for Wm5 but the fuction calls should be simular.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d.../wcecomm5/html/wce50lrfbthagatsetcallback.asp

I'm going to try come .net framework programming later but I have a funny feeling you cant do callbacks with the docnet framework?

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] IMate->WM2k5:
Derive from Microsoft.WindowsCEForms.Message class and get any callback linked you want
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Understood mate, certainly initiating an action on button press would be a huge leap forward, it would just be a shame if we still hac to use the mic and speaker on the handest to initiate commande rather than doing that through the headset as well.

good work tho ;-)

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rmg.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] corben:
Hi, I'm new here, but I've been following your posting very closely. I have i-mate jam and able to put those in the registry. I have put audiogw.dll and btaudiogw.dll under windows folder and it only recognize audiogw.dll. It keep saying that could not load module btaudiogw.dll. Any idea where should I put that .dll??

Corben
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Sounds like you can get it working by dumping the rom contents in a folder on an SD card.

Which is wierd because I couldnt see btaudiogw.dll in the rom contents.