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[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Sorry, been busy. I was away on holidays earlier this year, and then came back and found myself deep in the whole "won't receive mms on Samsung KitKat" issue which then morphed into the "unread threads" issue. Hopefully soon.

You're welcome. I wasn't going to do it at first, but it seems to be affecting more and more devices with KitKat updates for new devices ... so I went back and reconsidered it.

Probably a good idea. It's something that's inherited from upstream and minor enough that I've never given it much attention.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
> can you please enable an option to set a number for max msgs

Do you mean the "Storage" » "Text message limit" setting, or something else?

> and/or disable the "sending SMS messages" warning ?

That's a warning that occurs if you (or another app on your phone) sends more than 100 messages per hour. If you often hit this limit, don't you think you need to stop what you're doing? :)
[Android Apps and Games] fnctopx:
really a 100 per hour ? wth !

thanks for the info :)

uhhm i meant to change the limit i thought its less than a 100 ;)
[Android Apps and Games] jazzh:
Could you please add camera led flash notification?
[Android Apps and Games] prztruspaz:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manzy.flashnotification

That's a good flash notification app
[Android Apps and Games] jazzh:
I know, SmartNotify is also great, but why not have this setting here, since there is already plain Led settings (not camera led flash)...
[Android Apps and Games] draiko913:
So I'm looking for some advice. I keep my wifi on at all times (since I have limited mobile data that I don't want to burn through) but I can't ever send or receive MMS when connected to wifi. If I'm at work, MMS send and receive fine on LTE (T-Mobile) but as soon as I get home, I don't receive them anymore and if I trying sending one, it just sits "sending" forever. With the most recent update, I set enable MMS to Always (enable mobile data) but it doesn't appear to make a difference. Seems like I must be missing something. I'm running the Sony Z Ultra GPE (stock and not rooted). Any help would be appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
Any way to incorporate the hangout emojis? The only way to get them to show up on 8sms is to disable them which I guess the system uses the 4.4 built in emojis and displays them.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Actually, I made a mistake.

There is a rate limit check in 8sms which triggers at 100 messages per hour, but this is not the limit you are running into.

The screenshot you posted is from something else, and I think it's a limit check imposed by the ROM. If you search Google for "is sending a large number of sms messages", you'll see it also appears in other situations unrelated to 8sms.

One day, I'll look into it if I have time, but I consider this low priority.

> but I can't ever send or receive MMS when connected to wifi

My guess is that you have T-Mobile's wifi calling enabled? I don't know how to make mms work whilst wifi calling is enabled.

There's isn't public information on how to do it, and I don't have enough assistance from users who are able to help me reverse-engineer it remotely (I'm not on T-Mobile so I can't work on it first-hand myself).

Sorry, there's not much I can do (unless a fellow Android "power user" is able to help me with this).

8sms has Apple-style emoji's built in. It doesn't have the hangouts emoji yet (although I would like to add it at one point ... if I can find the time), so if you want to use hangouts emoji, for now, you'll have to rely on the system for it.
[Android Apps and Games] draiko913:
The google play edition of the z ultra doesn't appear to have the option to use Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile. I don't have the Wi-Fi calling icon in my notification bar either so I'm pretty sure I'm not using it. Is there anything specific I should look for in the logcat to see if something isn't toggling correctly when I try to send mms?

Regardless on my Wi-Fi/mms issue, I still love the app. Keep up the great work!
[Android Apps and Games] slonn:
For some reason the pop up on pin locked screen stopped working. I've tested the feature with other text apps and the problem isn't there. Can this be fixed?

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[Android Apps and Games] naijaboykev28:
Just got the update with "Always 'Enable MMS Data'". This app is God-Tier. Thank you bengtan.
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
How to disable contacts photos on the lists and conversations? Please, add this feature.
[Android Apps and Games] todd.brown:
Thanks, let me try it.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
> Is there anything specific I should look for in the logcat to see

> if something isn't toggling correctly when I try to send mms?

Your guess is as good as mine.

If you want to send me logcats, please go ahead, but email them to me rather than posting them here. I'd be happy to investigate this ... maybe there's something new happening that we both don't know about.

"Pin locked"?

The "wake and unlock" feature in 8sms only works for non-secured lock screens. Don't know how it worked before, but maybe that was a glitch.
[Android Apps and Games] Publiuss:
Hi

I had to remove popup 'cause it showed message content with pattern secured lockscreen!
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
Can a link to the cell broadcasts be added? This is available on the stock cm11 messaging app and allows us to see amber alerts, etc that were displayed previously.
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
Please add feature to disable messages count on the list next to contact name.
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
for some reason, with popup enabled, sometimes when i receive a sms, the popup reply displays the new message but it also displays the last message i received on the popup(even though i had already seen and closed the popup for the earlier message). This has happened to with all apps based on stock google sms app(your app, the Cyanogenmod mms app etc) since this popup feature was introduced. No one was able to tell me what causes this(i seen to be the only one with this issue). I have changed phones and changed sim card (not because of this bug of course). This has been happening to me on android 4.1, 4.2, 4.3 and now 4.4 lol. I even provided a logcat once but it showed nothing wrong. Do you have any idea why? [MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Hi bengtan and thank you for making this great app for us.

I noticed a problem when receiving one time passwords.

There is no sound notification but the message is displayed in a small rectangular box.

Like this attachment. Could you please look into this.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I think sometimes something gets cached by Android incorrectly. Can you try clearing the 8sms app cache:

http://8s.ms/clearing-8sms-app-cache

and rebooting your phone please?

Just looking in the 8sms code, there is already a cell broadcasts link in the "main screen" menu (ie. below the "About" menu item), but it only appears if:

1. A rom variable "com.android.internal.R.bool.config_cellBroadcastAppLinks" is set to true.

2. The "cell broadcasts" app is in a package com.android.cellbroadcastreceiver and the app is enabled.

This is inherited from upstream (from cyanogenmod or AOSP), and I haven't changed it.

Perhaps one of these two conditions are not being met on your phone?

Noted, already on my to-do list as part of larger themeing task.

> but it also displays the last message i received on the popup(even

> though i had already seen and closed the popup for the earlier message

Once a message appears in the pop-up, you need to press "Close" or reply to it (using the pop-up) in order to dismiss it. Pressing Android's back button may hide the pop-up, but the message will still remain in the pop-up until explicitly dismissed. This is the way the code is intended to work.

Perhaps, in some cases, you didn't dismiss it?

This looks like what's known as a "flash sms" or Class zero message. I don't know much about them, but in the code inherited from cyanogenmod and AOSP, these messages don't produce Android notifications nor sound a tone. In other words, I think this is by design.
[Android Apps and Games] Publiuss:
Hi

I did it all, it happened again.

Perhaps could be related to the presence of no-led (notification gets on top the no-led layer)?
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
I never use the back button but i remember that sometimes i may have touched outside of the popup(which makes it disappear) and probably happens what you described with the back button. I will test it again to see if it continues!Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] skupi20:
No, you are not the only one :) I have the same issue :)

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[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Uh, I don't understand what you mean by "no-led" so I can't comment.

Once a message appears in the pop-up, you need to press "Close" or reply to it (using the pop-up) in order to dismiss it. Pressing Android's back button may hide the pop-up, but the message will still remain in the pop-up until explicitly dismissed. This is the way the code is intended to work.

Perhaps, in some cases, you didn't dismiss it?
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
There is a problem with LED notification. Sometimes it doesn't work :(

Please, fix this bug.

When new version will be release?
[Android Apps and Games] skupi20:
Maybe I don't dismiss it with close button, but I read it and dismiss it in notification. So it shouldn't show again in pop-up.

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[Android Apps and Games] Publiuss:
Hi

NoLed is a app that shows notifications on screen for phones that do not have a led.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonballz:
Hello and thank you for the application , it would be possible to have an option for text size ? I find in the popup text as small , thank you.

Otherwise works very well on my samsung S3 neat rom v6.2
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I occasionally get reports that the LED nofications don't work, but AFAICT, the code is correct. In most cases, there's some sort of misunderstanding like:

1. The phone led doesn't turn on under some conditions like: it's charging, or the screen has been turned on, or

2. There's an app on the phone (like Light Flow) which is interfering, or

3. There's a LED setting in the ROM which is denying access, or

4. There's a more recent notification which has grabbed control of the LED.

I also tell users to try clearing the 8sms app cache (http://8s.ms/clearing-8sms-app-cache) and rebooting the phone, and they report back that it fixes it ... suggesting there is a bug in Android.

If you have a reliable reproducible situation where the LED doesn't turn on, and if you know how to retrieve logcats and are able to help me investigate, then please contact me, but I can't promise much. Turning on the LED is controlled by Android when requested by 8sms ... there isn't a way for me to "force" it to turn on or anything like that.

Hmmm ... okay. I just tested the "Mark" (as read) button in the 8sms notification, and it does remove the message from the Quick reply pop-up. Hence, if you are seeing different behaviour, and it is reliably repeatable, can you please email me so I can try to debug it? Thanks.

Well, maybe try disabling it and see if that helps? I can't really make any informed comments.

Noted. I'll include it in the 8sms re-themeing task. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] SirBlackBeard:
Privacy Policy

Hi Bengtan, nice app but I have a question. What data exacty do you collect from 8sms users? Your Privacy Policy is somewhat unclear on your website.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

At the moment, there is no collection at all.

I thought I'd keep my options open and, in the future, maybe put in some analytics to help me improve the app.

However, if this is causing concern to users, or if they would rather I not put analytics into 8sms, then I can change the policy to say there is no collection at all.

What do others think?
[Android Apps and Games] paul_cad44:
Personally got no objections to collecting data as long as it doesn't include message content or phone numbers. Anything to help the dev improve this app. :)
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
"This looks like what's known as a "flash sms" or Class zero message. I don't know much about them, but in the code inherited from cyanogenmod and AOSP, these messages don't produce Android notifications nor sound a tone. In other words, I think this is by design."

Is it not possible to force notifications for flash messages on 8sms then ?
[Android Apps and Games] dragonballz:
Hello , in a conversation sms , when I click on the contact photo , I have this message : "Contact is stopped" .

EDIT : Problem solved , thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] fnctopx:
+1
[Android Apps and Games] scottjb:
+1
[Android Apps and Games] SirBlackBeard:
Something Is Up

Your response to privacy and keeping your app closed sourced in earlier post combined with your response above doesn't make sense. I think something shady is going on. So thank you for confirming this.. I downloaded Textra as I'm typing this .. and I suggest others do as well. Why? Because when I emailed Textra about their privacy policy they gave me a straight forward answer, not this wishy-washy. I'm obviously not the only person worried by this app if privacy concerns have already been brought up by others.

The other post I'm referring to is on page 46 by user pcgaldo (I cant post links yet).

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I don't mind giving that data as well. But the dev isn't being clear. The privacy policy on HIS website states he collects data.. but his response to me when I questioned him is that he doesn't collect data. He is to wishy-washy. I believe that if your a DEV you have to be straight forward with the people who are "trusting" you with their information, especially in today's world. Defend him all you want, but in reality non-of-us know what hes doing because this app is

closed sourced

. Funny because he said he sourced this app from cyanogenmod 10.2 and that it is 98% not his app, and is theirs.
[Android Apps and Games] goldharbor:
hello i'm looking for a new messaging app... need to things:

Conversation is with a person, not a number (e.g. Person with 2 contacts... both messages will remain in the same conversation)

Define a answer number.. (e.g. All messages from conversation will be send for one number except if i start a new message, not reply)

8sms do that? if not, anyone?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Technically, I could change 8sms to post a notification for flash messages. Practically, I'm doubtful whether I should.

1. I don't have a way to make flash messages be sent to my phone so I can't test it properly.

2. I don't really understand the reasoning or intended usage of flash messages ie. the requirements.

I couldn't find anything in the 3G/telephony standards about flash messages. For all I know, they are not supposed to trigger audible notifications. Perhaps they are, perhaps they aren't. I don't know.

I don't want to go fiddling around in an area I don't know about. I would want to understand something before I change it.

If Google implemented the Android stock messaging app so flash messages don't create a notification, perhaps they know something I don't.

So ... if you can point me to definitive documentation about flash messages and how they are supposed to behave, then I'll look at it and reconsider making flash messages trigger notifications.

If not, sorry, perhaps you can raise this with Google instead.

> Conversation is with a person, not a number (e.g. Person with 2

> contacts... both messages will remain in the same conversation)

I've never tested for this, so I don't know whether it will work. Perhaps try testing it yourself?

> Define a answer number.. (e.g. All messages from conversation will be

> send for one number except if i start a new message, not reply)

No. 8sms won't do this.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

It's quite common in legal-ish statements to say "may" without actually doing something. I was just following this pattern.

I said "We may perform automated collection ..." because I was thinking of adding analytics some time in the future. Then, if I did add analytics, it would be covered by this statement and I wouldn't have to change it.

*BUT*

Since some people are concerned, I've just changed the privacy statement to:

(See http://8s.ms/privacy)

This means I can't add analytics in the future either (or else I'd have to adjust the privacy policy).

To re-emphasise, 8sms has never collected any data from you (or your phone), and still does not collect any data from you (or your phone).

Are you satisfied with this answer?

If not, please let me know why not and I'd be happy to address your remaining concerns.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Looking for testing assistance for Sony phones, Logcat desirable

Hi,

Version 1.31 of 8sms has just been released and should be available on Google Play in a few hours.

This version has support for launcher icon badges for those manufacturer ROMs which do provide such a feature and for which I'm able to find adequate documentation on how to do it. It should work for Samsung Touchwiz.

There is some documentation for Sony phones, so I'm looking for a Sony phone user to help me add support for Sony. Please email me off-thread (logcat capability desirable).

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
Still no options to disable avatars and messages count.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonballz:
Thank you for this update, could you please include this icon in the theme ? Which is more like theme Kitkat , thank you .
[Android Apps and Games] SirBlackBeard:
Thank you very much for clearing up this issue. If you want to put analytics later on I'm sure none of us including myself would mind, just as long as our PII ( name, contacts, message content, and other "personal identification information") is not used and we are notified in the play store " what's new" when this change happens as we update the app.

Thanks again Dev.
[Android Apps and Games] Nucleotide:
Is there any chance of making that horrible teal/bluey/greeny looking colour in the dark theme a dark grey by any chance? HEX value #222222 perhaps?

The teal colour look absolutely dreadful!!
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
Good suggestion. It'd be nice if also the colored messages would be the unread ones, not the read messages. Make more sense that an unread message is "highlighted".
[Android Apps and Games] slonn:
Is the pop up notification on pin lock screen fixed?

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[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Appreciate the detailed answer begtan. I wish I could help you change this but my knowledge is limited. I am pretty sure this was working on Android ICS using HTC messaging app.
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
Is it possible to have the quick reply pop-up but not the notification? Or alternatively, is it possible to dismiss the notification from the quick reply pop-up?

Sometimes I receive an sms with a code so I only need to view it but not reply. The quick reply pop-up has two options: Close and View. If I choose the former, I have to dismiss the notification manually and if I choose the latter, it switches me to the 8sms app which I'd rather not do.
[Android Apps and Games] gfunas:
working good thank you
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Sorry to all. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the feature requests and suggestions and bugfixes. There are a lot of people using 8sms now, and I'm having trouble keeping up.

The quick reply pop-up doesn't not appear over a secured lockscreen, including pin-locks. This is intended and by design.

> Is it possible to have the quick reply pop-up but not the notification?

No.

> Or alternatively, is it possible to dismiss the notification from the quick reply pop-up?

Pressing "close" on the quick reply pop-up should dismiss the notification (but see next paragraph below).

> Sometimes I receive an sms with a code so I only need to view it but not reply.

If you press the "mark" button in the notification, that should mark the message as read, and it should also remove the message from the quick-reply pop up.

However, there was a bug introduced around 1.23 (and then fixed in 1.31) which might prevent both of these from working correctly. Perhaps you'd like to upgrade to 1.31 and give it a try?
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
Ok upgrading does seem to have fixed it. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
I cloned a bug with led notification. It doesn't works when phone locks automatically.

When users lock phone led notification works ok.
[Android Apps and Games] friendfriend:
First I wannt to thank You for your hard work. Your app is amonge the best sms apps out there. Congrat!

[Q]: Is it possible to remove contact pictures field in inbox?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
This is plausible. The system decides whether or if to turn on the led (when requested by 8sms), and maybe this is the expected behaviour (or a bug) on your phone.

Thanks.

Not yet, but it is on my to-do list.
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
Just found a bug. I cannot delete drafts after they have been made. Erasing them and then going and to the text listing shows that they are still there.

Sent from my GT-N7105
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I'm not having any trouble deleting drafts. Can you open the message in the message editor and delete the contents of the draft message?
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
Yeah, I open up the draft message and delete it. Go back to the inbox and it's like as if I didn't do anything. CM11

Also to note, it only happens when you go back to inbox using the back button on the top left... Not the phones back button.

Sent from my GT-N7105
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Thanks for reporting this. I can reproduce it on my phone when trying to delete a draft and then pressing the app icon in the top left (in the action bar) to return to the main screen. I think there might be a bug in there ... looks like the draft is not being deleted.

I'll get it fixed. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] zalaros:
When i reply to a message using quick reply, the message seems to be marked as read but if i receive another message, the pop up still shows the previous message and i have to slide to see the most recent message. Can anyone confirm this?
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
This does not appear to happen with my setup. I'm using the latest version of 8sms (v 1.31) on Android 4.3 on a Galaxy S3.

I tried first with popups enabled. Replying to the popup marks the message as read. Receiving another message does not bring the previous message to the popup dialog.

I tried next with popups disabled. I used the quick reply button from the notification which marked the message as read. Receiving another message and then again using the quick reply button from the notification does not bring the previous message to the quick reply popup.

Now, I do know that if you use the back button on your device to dismiss an 8sms message popup window, that the message isn't marked as read. This WILL bring the message back to the popup window on the next received message. And I think that's the actual intended functionality.

Sorry, I'm not much help. Maybe someone else will be better able to help you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Are you using a recent version of 8sms (ie. 1.31)? There was a bug around versions 1.22 to 1.30 where messages may have been prevented from being marked as read.

If you are using an old version, can you update to version 1.31 and try again?
[Android Apps and Games] jfranks0987:
I just found out about this app and it is awesome! The only thing it is missing is .gif support. I saw that it has been added to the to do list. Is this still something that you are considering?