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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Have taken those notifications out at the moment...for various reasons (they will be back though) ...

AND yes for some odd reason that happens on CM 10.1 on sgs2, cause my gf's does it also... only that phone that version I think, so has to be rom related
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
You talk about notifications being ROM related? I don't know what to say...the messages status "Sending, Sent, Delivered" work just fine, i thought just moving notifications to "Delivered" condition would've fix the problem, but these are just my thoughts. :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no, they are not, I mean your second point... (edit) ooops I mean 1st :) (the text,popup stuff)
[Android Apps and Games] happiboi:
Fantastic~! love the whole feedback loop you have going on with the beta users :good: :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
my pattern is quite simple really... is a suggestion valid and informed? ... is a suggestion logical? ...does it make something better? ... if yes, change/implement, if no, ask for more opinions, consult the g+ group... (cause I'm not always correct) :)

Edit: However I will be less accommodating of visual changes, only functional ... until it's ready for release, then I go all out on making it look and feel the best :)

(but your suggestion was functional/usability)
[Android Apps and Games] Freddy1X:
Hye dean..can you approve my request to join the Group?

I wanna test this app.. :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sorry closed currently, too many members :(

Also most of the members are not really beta testing it, they are either using it or trying it, and thats not the purpose... I made the mistake of accepting everyone who asked :)
[Android Apps and Games] drumcodex:
Isnt using the app a part of testing?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yes, but someone using the app and reporting nothing... is not.. :)
[Android Apps and Games] drumcodex:
Totally agree
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
Latest update ? Lol
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
was thinking of ways to get the size down a bit... and thats the smallest I could get it :) well... could probably get it a tiny bit smaller
[Android Apps and Games] Freddy1X:
But..I really want to test it.. :(
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I've started to trim the group .. Down 100 members.. When it gets down to a core test group, will open it up for people who will really test it
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
Lol but i wanna use the app
[Android Apps and Games] happiboi:
So far enjoying the latest update. fixed the FC with receiving texts.

Also like the 'bar' to confirm when only one option, thanks for that [MENTION=293916]deanwray[/MENTION] :good:

Another sidenote: in the attached screenshot, is the "error unknown" due to my current dpi settings on my phone? :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
basically that value is populated by me asking the framework for the dpi qualifier name, will look into that cause there is no way it should say unknown unless you have done some serious crap to the dpi of the unit

Edit : in short, it maybe my fault that it says that ;)
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
You wanted to see my reporeted android version. The app seems to not be FCing for me like it was before. Ill continue to send any reports. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yes but I changed something to hack it to work so you could show me that screen, and that screen is ...erm... not what I expected to see.... it reports everything fine... so I can only conclude that you found a bug :)
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Well, whatever you changed, my FCs are gone. :) ill report any other weirdness.

Are you open to little cosmetic changes or are you focusing on functionality and compatibility right now?
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
Download link not up yet ? :o
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Depends if the two overlap... if changing a visual in anyway affects usability for the better... then yes I'm open... if it's like color or spacing or style...since nothing is final yet, then no :)

Whats your issue ? I can only say "NO" with a bit of swearing ??!!
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Actually that screenshot was from 12. I was still getting FCs in that version, but now in version 14 the fc are gone. So whatever you changed between v12 and v14 fixed my issues.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
that may be a problem then.... look in the action table and see if anything is listed !
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Action table? Where is that? Sorry :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Have you watched the intro vid ?
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Not the entire thing. Watching now then will report back. :thumbup:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
It's now dated. But after watching it you will not ask where that is or what it is :)
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
OK it was renamed "Events/processing tables" and for me it is empty.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Oh cool, then it should be fine.... I have to add some good reporting to failures of any kind, but any tasks that were active and not completed would show up there... if there are none, it thinks all is well :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Download link is fine and in the G+ group about box
[Android Apps and Games] Mr Faceless:
There is no download link?
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
Heading to PC.. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dont forget I'm clearing lots of inactive members from the beta... there are simply too many people using it as a SMS app and not testing/providing feedback ... and it really is not ready to be used yet, only tested and bugs found!
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
I will probably help you in knowing bugs (of present). :)
[Android Apps and Games] flvinny521:
Does this mean that backing up the app in Titanium Backup will also save your message history? This is something I like to preserve between flashes, if possible.

I also have some theming/layout suggestions, but I'll wait until you get closer to release.
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
In the schedules option menu, if you select custom repeat, the options for days/hours/minutes aren't readable.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
At the point that it is ready to use, you will just have to make sure backup is enabled in settings of SM, and it will automatically do all that for you!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
all fine on all units tested, except for a unit sgs2 with cm10.1 so I have to think it's a display/rom issue rather than a SM issue
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
He is not on sgs2, and I never had any problems like this with one of my 200 apps. Just saying... :P
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Indeed, but I can only replicate it on an sgs2 running cm10.1 is what I'm saying... there is simply a "setTextColor(white)" in that theme... so it has to be a system issue, cause I actually watch it set the color :) (on the sgs2 that fails)
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Oooh, i see... But what is strange is that in landscape the text is there, but is at most right. :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
tbh whats stranger is that popup gets it dimensions from a static reference, and on that dpi should only be 150 pixels wide, and is on all my units, but then for some reason on cm10.1 on the sgs2 i have...it's no text and as wide as the trigger view... so very odd indeed
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
So my rom is somehow causing one single menu in the app to not display text properly...alrighty then. :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
No, to be more specific, some operation/method of view class and subset of textView is acting different when being used through the frameworks that are on your phone provided by your ROM :) But yes, the visual result is.. menu don't work. I now have 2 users who have this problem... and it's just.. well, I can't even replicate it now on the sgs2, I just checked!
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Makes sense, it is a modified framework after all, I just found it odd to be only that single menu and havent had the issue anywhere else. Also, I just sent some more reports. :thumbup:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well in all logic it really should not happen... that item popup result is no different from triggering any of them.... what app version are you on btw ?
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
.014b 14
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Dean did you see my message to you on hangout?

Sendt fra min HTC One med Tapatalk 4
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no i did not, I fear that having many devices that default to my account means that somewhere in the house is a device with whatever your message was... but not in my immediate office :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Read and messaged you back
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
RELEASE 0.01.015b

Version 0.01.015b

Bug Fixes

Experiments (Things)

Fail Notifications (With Reasons)

Better error handling

Custom Notification Sounds (Rules/Filters)

Theme + Alignment control passed to theme engine (things may have moved slightly)

please report back any fixes to your problems ... or more problems :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
So there's no chance at all of trying this app yet? Shame was looking forward to giving it a run and seeing how it works and compares...
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
It's getting better with each beta but it still is an early beta. It's not ready.
[Android Apps and Games] happiboi:
Latest update, makes the error go away. Instead states:

UnQualified: 268

:D
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
If you have reasons or suggestions.. Best to share :) I know why it isn't ready.. Interested to know what you think :)
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
Well we just fixed some FC issues and we're now diving headlong into using and abusing the app. I feel like we as beta testers need to take more time messing with it while you so squash as many bugs as possible and push new features.
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Excuse me, but isn't that the purpose of a "Tester" ? While this app it's in a beta stage, isn't ready for daily use! Even Dean said that in the OP and stated many times on G+.

People should understand that being a "Beta Tester" means to use the app hard enough to find even the smallest bug / error (and of course report it back to the developer) and NOT to enjoy using it as a primary app and request hundreds of features because it doesn't fit their needs. :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I agree, but I think much of this is my fault anyways, I come from a long time career in console game development (as an artist) so I understand the difference between beta and alpha in all their definitions ... this app is coming to the end of alpha :) I just cheated cause I didn't want to deal with the developer console alpha stuff in addition to beta :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Oh and I have that menu problem back on a test SGS2 so I will have a look at it right now, see if I can tell whats going on...

EDIT : I may have fixed it, not really sure what it was tbh, but I changed the default size that those things popup, and cant get it to happen now

EDIT EDIT : Oh jesus, my fault totally... typo for any device that qualifies as hdpi, rather than 180dp, was 1800dp :) Balls!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.01.016b

Small Fix of any device registered as "hdpi"
[Android Apps and Games] diminou91:
Hey! Is it possible to get into the beta phase? I was on vacations during your launch and I really want to try it :D
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
Could this be the reason I get so many fc and can't rotate screen? My device is hdpi.

---------- Post added at 10:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:53 AM ----------

With new update (v16), the menu text is now visible. I still fc when rotate phone though.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
doubt it, it should not FC on any rotate, not had any reports of that at all. All this would do is make a menu item so big that the text that is in the center of it is actually off the screen :)
[Android Apps and Games] korrectmethod:
I guess my reports aren't going through then, because I sent several. When I rotate from portrait to landscape, where the conversations should be is just a white screen and does nothing, when i rotate back to portrait it FC's. If I start SM in landscape it works, but it does the same thing if I rotate to portrait and back to landscape.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
What I mean is that out of 1000's of rotations per day, it doesn't crash on other units, remind me of you phone spec/OS again
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
forget my last statement... I see that out of 7 occurrences of that problem... all 7 are related to your device on 2.3.7 R800i

EDIT : that means that since it's not happening with anyone else... it is very specific to you.. and that ROM maybe ? Not really something I can track down and spend the time on, just for one specific ROM, on one phone.... if it turns out to be an SM problem, I will instantly address it though!!
[Android Apps and Games] bigmixxx:
Is the beta open?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
kinda...
[Android Apps and Games] bigmixxx:
Do I need to request to get into the beta. Assuming I need to do that magic on google plus?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yes, only if your interested in "beta" testing it, this is not a trial or try and app... I'm really looking for beta testers... I think I have way too many people who just want to use it. Although I must say I have some wicked people reporting and helping test it too... Hope you're the latter :)
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Oh lol xD well it did fixed the menu like "Vibration Type" but "Move To" menu still doesn't show any text :eek: hmmm
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
what version you using ?
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Latest beta, x.16b
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
that really shouldn't be happening, like I say there was 1 stray dimension that was causing it...making a menu over 1800px wide, that should be fixed
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Well, don't know what to say, i'm on the latest version. Cleared app data, and tested again...same thing. Only menu that's "huge" it's the "Move To" menu. Maybe it's using a different reference / size variable / class ? Somehow it's still using the old 1800 pixels ... :(
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well to make sure it is the same problem, when you are in landscape and hit the menu, you see text ? cause at 1800 wide and the center point at 900, you should see some of the text... if thats the case, somehow it's still using the old dimensions

Oh balls, I may need an eye test... I found another dimension stray "zero" for the size of a button, on hdpi dimensions.. but not one that would affect that menu
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Yep, i can see some text, like it was before ( almost at the edge of my screen ).
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
but I fixed one of them ? maybe something odd with my build system, that cached the dimensions and injected old into the current build, even though the source was fixed...that the only thing I can think of
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
I can image why. As i stated before Textra uses its own database mainly because of speed problems. Anyway, perhaps you can find a workaround regarding batch notification in the far or near future.

...and a personal request for the far away future:

Pleas make a theme regarding Holo theme layout. Look at ICMess which i am using in the moment. Also uses sliding and is very intuitive.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Well doing a holo dark and light theme will be very trivial, see I wanted users to do those kind of themes, and me just supply examples of the type and range that can be done.. I think before I get to release, I will add a "stock ICS/JB","IOS7","Holo Light/Dark" themes to the inbuilt ones
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
Ok, lets get back to testing ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Albinoman:
I can't find the link to get into the beta. Every link 404's
[Android Apps and Games] ville525:
You have to join the G+ group first.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112189155304763868016
[Android Apps and Games] Albinoman:
I already did
[Android Apps and Games] ville525:
Have you been accepted in the group?
[Android Apps and Games] Albinoman:
Yep
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Are you using a android google play synced account ? sometimes it may take 10-20 min for play store to see you as a beta tester... thats my thoughts neways
[Android Apps and Games] Albinoman:
Yes...
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
Not with my plan its free. Living overseas for the past 6 years i understand your hate, i never used it. But itd be nice to have for people with unlimited plans, and people don't like clicking links, alot of spam in the states lol :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Well here it can cost $0.75 per message, sometimes more, and it's also terribly limited in size. But yes, I envy your mms freedom :)
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
Any chance to add as optional feature? Lol
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I don't see why not, but it's not going to be on the top of the list for a bit. Have to implement items and tidy up features that are in the dev list. Then I can add extras. But in all honesty, the "SmartMessages" should make that VERY redundant anyways :) When I enable/finish them
[Android Apps and Games] gogs74:
I would love to try this as well
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
read the intro posts and join the group, and try it... tis simple enough at the moment :)
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
I'm very interested to see how smart messages will work :)
[Android Apps and Games] upichie:
+1 for adding MMS as an optional feature. I have unlimited MMS as well. I think my recipients would prefer a picture in their inboxes instead of a link. Especially the ones without data, as I wouldn't be able to send them pictures at all. :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well if they also use smart messenger, they get an image and a link :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Something I have now learned about MMS, even though US and Canada have really crap mobile deals, that are expensive, you seem to have very cheap/free mms on most of the contracts :)
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaDragos:
Kind of...On previous builds i had this visual "bug" with "Vibration Type" menu too, now it shows properly. Only this remains a mystery o.O ... Now this reminds me of old C++ compiler from Visual Studio that after source change and re-compile still didn't change nothing until you "Clean" the project.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well if I were using eclipse I would say it used stale resources :) But this hybrid intelliJ balls should build automatically and not allow the old eclipse style dated resources :)

Edit : Check back when I do another release... let me know... :)
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
Not sure what you're referring to here. I am beta testing. I was responding to why I feel the app isn't ready and I said we, as beta testers, need to take more time to use and abuse the app... not sure why you're responding in that way.
[Android Apps and Games] pradeepb:
One quick word.

I found that when I reply from notification bar(when msg arrives n I reply it from status bar) the msg received should considered as 'read'.

But even though I have replied it still shows up in notification bar. Could u plz look into it.. Thanks for the lovely app :)
[Android Apps and Games] cory0212:
I don't really use Google+ but I really am hoping to try this out and help if I can. Looks really promising so I just sent a request to help haha
[Android Apps and Games] -CALIBAN666-:
Awesome app,confirmed from me that it works on Android 2.3.6-Samsung Galaxy Y Duos s6102 and on my LG Optimus L5 e610 with Android 4.3 SlimBean rom too,keep it up!!!:beer::beer::beer:

GREEEETZ!!!!
[Android Apps and Games] Freddy1X:
Fisrt of all, thanks dean for approving my request to join in the beta test. As I've promised before, I've thoroughly tested this app,

and all I can say I'm starting to love it..just a few suggestions (not bug report as Ive found none of them) that maybe can improve this app

even more.

1. Add the ability to mark the messages, just mark, as in select. So users can make bulk delete. I know there is a 'mark' button, but if

we press it, it will select all of the messages and the users have to unselect one by one. I prefer to select the messages myself one by one to make a bulk delete, rather than select all first. Small feature but very handy.

2. Add the ability to compose draft sms. If you take a look into HTC Sense stock messaging app, it have this kinda feature that let people

compose draft, and it can be like a temporaty notes for some people, just like me. Take note that the HTC Sense messaging app can also

make a draft without having the need to put the recipient number..

3. I know this app have integrated with Gmail, but if you can add an option to backup/restore the messages (physical backup/restore), this

will gonna be great.

4. I can classified this app as an intermediate messaging app, because of the features that it have offered. So it is better if the first time user

can be guide with a simple tutorial to use the app.

5. Last but not least, if you can make a 'secure space' for the messages, that can be lock with a password, that will be even more awesome.

6. Errr...ok one more..hahaha.. add popup reply window, and if you can, add a widget that behave the same as Ninja SMS, that we can compose message and reply from the same window. Wohooo..

Ok..that's all for now..I'll give more opinion/suggestion when I have the ideas. Thanks again dean! :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
That is a very old problem... please keep up to date with versions!
[Android Apps and Games] pradeepb:
I have updated the app yest itself mate..
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
like it "not bug report as Ive found none of them" look harder, I keep finding them all the time, there is actually a full FC bug in at the moment, but it is in an occurrence that is probably 1/10000... still gonna fix it though (actually fixing right now)

Not sure I follow, not had much sleep, looking after an ill pet atm, so a little off game. You mean 1st screen Summary View ? cause it does what you describe, just not within a conversation view yet. In summary view you hit the edit button and select whatever threads you want, then hit delete.. but if you mean chat/conversation view then yes I still need to add edit functions

Interesting, I actually have just got some screenshots of sense messaging app to do a clone theme of it... not sure I will add this before release, but it will go on my wish list. SM now transparently saves drafts per person, it just doesn't show you that it does.

When released it will have backup/restore with encryption to cloud (GDRIVE)

I plan to do 10+ vids on youtube showing usage of rules/filters, chaining devices and forwarders, and all the stuff really

Yes, it's on the list, the data set is already there, if you create a mailbox, I'm just still considering the best ways to allow a user to access, cause I wanted something that I call "blind security" in other words you cannot see that it secured...errr... imagine a locker that you cant see!

Thanks for the comments and taking the time...appreciated
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
What version are you on? and describe to me what you do, what happens and what you expect to happen ... cause from what you described previously, I cannot replicate that behaviour
[Android Apps and Games] pradeepb:
Hi Dean, thanks for the quick reply. I am on 0.01.016b.

I want to say is..

Consider if u receive any SMS, it will show in notification drawer.

Then u have option to reply from there itself without opening app.

Now,if u reply to that msg from there means it should be considered as "msg is read"(it should disappear from notification drawer)

But even after replying, u ll get to see that in notification drawer it will still shows as there is one new message.

Sorry for my bad English..