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[Android Apps and Games] deffensp:
Black and White MMS photos?

Hi,

Just wondering if there is a solution I missed for this. I discovered that when one of my relatives sends me a picture message from her GS3, about 80% of the time I get the picture in black and white. She is sending color, and if I switch to the stock messaging app they come in color. And, randomly every now and then one will come in on 8sms in color. But then the next few will be black and white again.

Thanks in advance!
[Android Apps and Games] 1droidmod:
Hello! Quick question... As far as "read reports" go, shouldn't the report includes "read" "unread"??? I remember a while back, (cannot remember if stock 4.1.2 or what) in the report this was there.. Yes I have "read report" checked.

Thanks

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[Android Apps and Games] Dark_AJ9:
[IRONIC Mode OFF]

LOL
[Android Apps and Games] Basche:
Sorry man, I just had too Lol :p
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
It's still on my to-do list, but I've been very busy with non-8sms things lately (and still am) and there are still many things ahead of it in priority.

That's unusual.

I think you'd have to check each message sent from them against the message that you receive to determine whether the images are transmitted without modification or whether something is converting/resizing/grey-scaling it whilst in transit.

It's possible that the cellular network (or a carrier in between your relative's carrier and your own carrier) is modifying the image. Apparently, in the past, they would modify mms message contents based on the capabilities of what they *think* your phone is capable of.

Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service#cite_ref-7

Perhaps this is still happening in your situation?

I'm not actually sure because I don't use them myself. I can look into it, but first I have to clarify ... are you talking about sms delivery reports, mms delivery reports, or mms read reports? They are actually three distinct things.

You'd be surprised. There are people who install 8sms on wifi-only tablets and then complain that it doesn't work or it doesn't do anything (AND they give me one-star ratings).

I even had one user who installed 8sms on a Nexus 10 and complained that 8sms won't send.

After I explained that the Nexus 10 doesn't have a SIM card or mobile network capability, they still didn't quite understand and thought that sms doesn't work on wifi.
[Android Apps and Games] 1droidmod:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] just a simple text message although I am sure a picture message would give the same read/unread info.

Thanks...

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[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Looking in the code ... this is what I see:

For sms delivery reports, the "Status" field will say "Unsuccessful", "Pending", or "Received".

For mms delivery reports, the field will say "Pending", "Received", "Rejected", or "Unsuccessful".

For mms read reports, the field will say "Read" or "Unread".

Hope this helps.
[Android Apps and Games] 1droidmod:
Wow, thanks! So mms has what I am looking for... I supose to edit the codes for sms to complete this action would either make the app not function or is simply a pain.. Any known reason why sms does not do this or maybe a way I might be able to make an edit/change to allow this?

Also, i am a long time user of your app when not running stock side, 8sms is so un-believably reliable no matter what custom RoM I chose to use. Greatest.

Thanks

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[Android Apps and Games] 1droidmod:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] I think i figured it out. Report says "pending" before message has been read and "received" after reading.

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[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Not quite. SMS doesn't have a "read report" capability. It's not a question of whether it is implemented in an app or not. It's a technical limitation of the GSM/3G network.

SMS only has a "delivery report" capability, and AFAIK, in my opinion, this is a best effort and, hence, does not have guaranteed reliability. It is supposed to indicate that a message has been delivered to a device (ie. the "To:" person's phone), not necessarily whether it has been read, and not all devices and networks actually support it.

In some cases, the receiving network may send the delivery report before forwarding the message on to the device.

In other words, YMMV.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Any chance on a theme engine? Like being able to change the sent/received color, bubble type, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Yes, I hope, and plan, to start work on this in about 1.5 months time. Thanks for your patience so far.

Beng
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
Why there is no option to disable avatars in today new version? I am disappointing:(
[Android Apps and Games] dragonballz:
Hello , in the settings icon only if I select it does not work , even when the text appears .

It has never run on my S3 , even with the latest version 1.32.
[Android Apps and Games] phalkon30:
Latest release fixed a minor issue I didn't want to bother you with, but works great now! I send a lot of pictures, so it was annoying that as pictures loaded the text would scroll around.

New version starts at the bottom. Keep the little tweaks going, you rock man!
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
Agreed. Much appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] lemonzest2014:
I just got a text and the quick reply was in the dark theme when I have it set to light theme, could this be fixed please I'm using the latest build
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
This setting only affects the "Reply", "Read", "Call" buttons in the new message notification when there are messages from ONE sender and controls whether the words "Reply", "Read", "Call" appear in the buttons or whether only icons are shown in the buttons.

For some languages, the translations of "Reply", "Read", "Call" are very long and don't fit in the buttons so configuring them to be icon-only makes it look better.

There are two "dark theme" checkboxes in 8sms. One for the quick-reply pop-up, and another for the "main app". Please check you have ticked the right one. Then, if it still doesn't work, please force stop 8sms and restart it.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] lemonzest2014:
Getting FC's now when attemping to text, the app opens fine but when I open a thread it freezes and it force closes, been using it for weeks and its been fine, using 1.33 now and its been ok for a few days but now its bugging out, is there anything i can do to help? I have tried clearing its cache/settings and reinstalled it from play store. but same result :rolleyes:

Phone is a Moto G, bulit in AOSP messenger works fine, as does hangouts.

Edit: I cleared my sms threads and all seemed fine untill I sent a message with Emoji in it, then it crashed again.

Edit: Nope cleared all threads again, and it crahses on the screen when you type in a contacts name.
[Android Apps and Games] Tapsibaba:
8SMS is the only app that allow me (there is also Textra) to send MMS while my data connection is disable. (because of the amazing "auto" activation feature that should be on ALL apps. So useful)

I'm just waiting for a theme engine, like in "Sliding SMS" which is really good looking but lack the feature I'm looking for.

It is the only feature I'm missing, the app is really great, it's running smooth on my Moto G.

Great job, if you add a theme engine/customization feature, this will be the most complete SMS/MMS app on the market. Great job.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

This is a known problem with Motorola phones ... although I'm surprised it still happens in recent phones.

On some Motorola phones, Motorola moved some sms-related system code into the stock messaging app. This means you cannot remove the stock messaging app otherwise any app which tries to send sms will crash. You'll have to put the stock messaging app back on your phone.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] SotYPL:
With "Split counter" and "Strip all unicode characters" enabled and when using any unicode characters in the message it will split it for 70 not 160 character parts. It would be fine when keeping unicode characters intact but not when you remove them before sending.
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
Does 8sms support MMS attachments? My friend sent me a blank MMS with an attachment but I don't see how to download it. The attachment does appear in the stock messaging app.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Using any unicode character will force the use of 16 bit characters. The segment length for 16-bit characters is about 67 characters.

Please see: http://8s.ms/sms-segment-length

It depends on the type of attachment. 8sms doesn't support every single type that is possible.

Try this app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schwimmer.android.mmsextract

or find something similar that you prefer.
[Android Apps and Games] lemonzest2014:
Would it be possible to include a backspace button in the Emoji popup menu? and enlarge the emoji icons on the popup please, I have a Moto G with a 320dpi screen and the emoji's are pretty small on the popup.
[Android Apps and Games] SotYPL:
But with option "Strip all unicode characters" enabled you won't be using any unicode character so it makes no sense to force splitting at 67/70 chars.
[Android Apps and Games] Gold_Phenix:
Hello bengtan. Is possible to sent audio file via mms? I tried send *.amr 45KB file but I have message, app can't send audio file.

Wysłane z mojego LT26i przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
A better solution would be to re-write the emoji dialog to be an emoji keyboard like other messaging apps. I did give this a try a long time ago, and it was a lot of work and I didn't get anywhere. Maybe in the far future, I'll give it another go.

I've had a look in the code. When calculating the character counter, 8sms already passes the composed text through the unicode filter before calculating. Hence, I think it is working correctly.

Where there might be a misunderstanding is that ... the unicode filter doesn't strip all non 7-bit characters. It only filters diacritics and other similar "foreign-language" characters.

It is possible to enter glyphs (and force 8sms to use 16-bit characters) which will pass through the unicode filter untouched. For example, emojis.

It is supposed to work, and on my phone it does, but I have heard from one or two other users having trouble doing it. Do you want to email me and then we can work on this issue together?
[Android Apps and Games] SotYPL:
I don't think that is working correctly. I'm Polish and using SwiftKey with Polish dictionary enabled. So when writing in Polish even when I'm not using Polish diacritics SwiftKey will correct the words. But 8sms should remove diacritics and send text message split by 160 characters. That's how GOSMS or Textra are working for example. Oh and I don't use any emojis or any other special characters in message.

And I found another issue. I have it installed on Verizon S3 with 4.3 and delivery reports work fine (for other Verizon users only of course but that's not 8sms problem) but my wife has Motorola RAZR M with stock 4.1 and all of messages sent to Verizon numbers has red exclamation mark and delivery report says "Unsuccessful" but when you click on that message, message details shows that it was delivered and gives time. Stock messaging app shows the same for all messages sent from 8sms but if she send message from stock or GOSMS delivery report works fine.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Can you please email me (at the registered developer email address for 8sms)?

I think I'm going to need a few specific examples (or screenshots) of this so I can diagnose it properly. We can also address the delivery reports issue as well.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] iankee:
Work great for my 4.2.2 device. thanks, great work dude
[Android Apps and Games] newarkoz:
Hi everyone, been using 8sms by some time (and it is awesome), but discovered a bug that is annyoing me :) I'll try to explain the problem:

While i am responding a message in the popup (already have some text written in the text input) and receive another message, the popup automatically jump to the new message but it creates 2/3 another repeated messages with the same text. This is one problem. The other problem is that when i slide to the first message i was replying in the first place, the text i wrote dissapeared, so i have to write the message again...

I don't know if i explained well, but it is difficult to take screenshots to show this. Try to simulate the case i explained so you can understand better what i described :)

PS: could you please add in the future to 8sms the option to choose other smiles? (i don't like the green ones from android :p)

Thanks! Any question just ask!
[Android Apps and Games] lemonzest2014:
Yeah it would be nice if the Smilies took the same appearance from the Emoji smilies
[Android Apps and Games] newarkoz:
Changing this dont change the smiles, still getting the green Android ones...
[Android Apps and Games] 1BadWolf:
Those are in the framework-res.apk in your ROM, not the app. AFAIK that's the only way to change them is to theme your ROM manually by decompiling/recompiling the app and swapping the .PNG images out for the ones you want to be displayed.

Edit: come to think of it, since they're just .PNG's you can just open the framework-res.apk with something like 7-zip or winrar and drop them in framework-res.apk/res/drawable-hdpi (could mdpi or xdpi depending on your device's screen size/resolution). You'd still have to be sure they were the right size and have the exact same names as the images you want to replace. A lot of work just for smilies, if you ask me, lol.
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
Actually you don't need to modified your framework-res.apk for that...you just need to changes AndroidEmojis fonts to a proper one or use iOSEmojis fonts for it...the fonts are the one that actually translate the smiles...if it can't identify the smiles than it will choose the next best things which is the green smiles...
[Android Apps and Games] fnctopx:
i dont understand what your problem is if you just activate emoji with the emoji quick button it should look like this and its just a click ? ;)
[Android Apps and Games] 1BadWolf:
Right on. I like the standard fonts so I've never bothered messing around with modding them. Where would one find the fonts you're referring to?

I think he's referring to the green faces that automatically show when someone sends a smiley by typing a comma and parentheses, etc. Like this:
[Android Apps and Games] fnctopx:
ahh ... got it ^^
[Android Apps and Games] SotYPL:
I'm attaching screenshots here. First 3 are from my wife's Razr M 4.1 rooted stock showing problems with delivery report. Last 2 are from my S3 4.3 rooted showing problems with splitting messages.

http://i61.tinypic.com/148n248.png

http://i59.tinypic.com/eqtpaf.png

http://i58.tinypic.com/mbn5zq.png

http://i58.tinypic.com/2yxnfgi.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/b7xcmc.png
[Android Apps and Games] tom282f3:
I appreciate you but I love the stock Sony 4.3 SMS app more. Still thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
HERE
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
You explained it just fine. That is what happens to me too. It makes popup reply completely useless=/. It has always happened to me since cm introduced popup reply!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Thanks for reporting it.

This is one of those issues which doesn't happen when I test it on my phone, and this makes debugging and diagnosis difficult. For all I know, it may be an unexpected interaction with the ROM you are using, not necessarily a bug in 8sms.

From time to time, users report issues with the quick-reply popup, I try to debug it but I need to rely on their testing, and then ... often they just don't follow up and then there's nothing else I can do.

So ... if either of you know how to retrieve logs out of your phone (ie. "logcat"), and if you can consistently and reliably reproduce this issue, can you please email me so we can work together to investigate this? Thanks in advance.

Noted, but I would consider this to be minor priority. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
> First 3 are from my wife's Razr M 4.1 rooted stock showing problems with delivery report.

The "red triangles" are often caused by the phone (ie. Android) or by the network. 8sms is indicating that the phone has indicated that the message has not been delivered. However, often, the network will report an error in delivering an sms, but still manage to deliver it anyway.

So far, whenever I encounter this symptom, it's a problem with the phone or network.

Can you try clearing the 8sms app cache (just in case):

http://8s.ms/clearing-8sms-app-cache

and then rebooting the phone?

Hopefully rebooting the phone will somehow reset the network connection and fix it. You might also want to check with your network provider whether they are experiencing any technical issues with their network.

> Last 2 are from my S3 4.3 rooted showing problems with splitting messages.

Thanks. This clarifies the issue very well. At first glance, it looks like ...

http://i58.tinypic.com/2yxnfgi.png : The message is passed through the unicode filter before the segment calculation is performed.

http://i57.tinypic.com/b7xcmc.png : The segment calculation is performed before the unicode filter.

This is yet to be confirmed. I'll have to look in the code and get back to you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
8sms now has partial support for mms over T-Mobile's wifi calling.

Hi all,

8sms now has partial support for mms over T-Mobile's wifi calling.

It's only partial because it depends on the ROM. Sending and receiving mms over T-Mobile's wifi calling requires authentication to the MMS server(s), and this is done by the ROM. You'd just have to test to see whether your phone ROM is authenticating on behalf of 8sms or not (and hope it does).

There are unconfirmed reports that installing 8sms as a system app *may* help with Wifi calling, but you'll just have to test and try it out yourself.

Good luck.

The Wifi calling section of this page: http://8s.ms/cant-send-or-receive-mms has been updated accordingly.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
Just figured out what causes many of this issues. When i have delivery reports enabled, it causes a lot of issues with popup reply, but when they are off, many of the problems disapear!

do you have delivery reports enabled [MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] ?
[Android Apps and Games] newarkoz:
I had the delivery reports for sms activated, disabled now and it seems the problem disappeared... Great workaround :D guess we know where the problem is ;)
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
So theoretically (if it is correctly working) T-Mobile users can put their phone on airplane mode whenever connected to a WiFi connection and receive and make calls and send MMS/SMS?!
[Android Apps and Games] scottjb:
I don't think so. I believe airplane mode turns WiFi off. It doesn't matter though. If your cellular radio is on, WiFi calling will use WiFi whenever it's available when the feature is activated.
[Android Apps and Games] 1BadWolf:
Initially it'll turn WiFi off but you can turn it back on and the phone will remain in airplane mode.
[Android Apps and Games] SotYPL:
Unfortunately it didn't help. I have some more examples:

http://i57.tinypic.com/ighq9v.png

Two messages sent from her phone. First sent using 8sms and second using GO SMS. As you can see message sent from 8sms has red triangle and the one sent from GO SMS has delivery report shown.

http://i59.tinypic.com/v6120n.png

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hxll3t.jpg

Status of message sent from GO SMS seen in 8sms.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ce65oo.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/2j3i548.png

Status of message sent from 8sms seen in 8sms.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
WiFi can be turned on in Airplane mode.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Can you please email me (at the registered developer email address of 8sms) so I take this offline, and so I can give you development versions of 8sms to test with? I find it tricky tracking an issue in a forum where there are other off-topic posts.

Interesting.

No, I don't have sms delivery reports enabled. I'll have to investigate and come back with my findings.

Leaving aside the question of whether airplane mode allows or prevents wifi or not (which is not really core to the topic of 8sms and Wifi Calling) ...

If you have a T-Mobile ROM which has Wifi Calling ...

Previously: If Wifi Calling is activated, 8sms is unable to send or receive mms. Wifi Calling shuts off the cellular connection, so mms over cellular won't work either. SMS works AFAIK.

Now: If Wifi Calling is activated, and if you enable mms over wifi (in 8sms MMS Settings), you *might* be able to send and receive mms over Wifi Calling. You'd just have to test on your ROM and see. SMS is unchanged AFAIK.

By comparison, Sprint's mms over wifi implementation allows mms over cellular at all times, whereas T-Mobile Wifi Calling prevents mms over cellular when Wifi Calling is active.

Hope this helps.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
SMS delivery reports don't work for me even if I configure it to be on (probably because of my network or my phone ... I dunno).

Do one of you know how to take logcats? If so, can you please email me so I investigate further? I'd like to give you development versions of 8sms which have extra debugging information. Please let me know. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] alogblog:
Why didnt it have Share feature?

I am managing my events and to-dos with some calendar and todo apps like others.

If I receive a SMS, then it may have content with events or todo. If so, I'd like to send SMS contents to calendar or todo apps.

8sms has "Add to calendar" message option. But why didnt it have general purposed action like Share, which is very useful.

Please add this feature.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] suzook:
Could we PLEASE get an all black background on the conversation list? Its my only gripe. Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] cas239:
Having an issue with notifications

I can receive the notification (sms or mms) just fine, but after a few moments the notification will clear itself from the statusbar. This behavior is specific to this app as my emails and the stock mms app works fine. Please help.

Running android 4.4.2, Carbon ROM 5/26 nightly. D2VZW. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] phalkon30:
Is something like Greenify closing it?
[Android Apps and Games] cas239:
I did Greenify the app, didn't even cross my mind. I removed it from Greenify and will see what happens :good:

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
i dont really know how to take logcats properly...if you have no one else that can do this i can try to learn and then test the dev versions of your app. Please let me know if you have no one else that can do this!

Btw have you ever considered having circle avatars?it gives a much cleaner look to the app!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
See here for logcats:

http://8s.ms/how-to/logcat-for-non-developers

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2303834

There isn't any one else so far.

No I haven't considered them before. Maybe after I re-do theming, I'll have a second think about this. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
Ok so i took a logcat of a very simple way to cause one of the popup reply bugs. What i did was i sent a message to myself (with delivery reports enabled) and then i receive the first popup with the message. Right after that, the toast notification is displayed saying that the message was delivered and it shows another popup reply. So i get two popup replies with my message when i have the delivery reports enabled. when i dont have them on, i only get one popup like it should be. take a look at the logcat and see if you can find anything please
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
Ever since the new contact picture high res change was done all my pictures are now off centered. Can this be toggled? Thank you