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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] lyka:
Can you dump out a copy of the bluetooth stack?

I'm not an expert...mm...hope some one can give you the right advice!

I dunno if there is a way to put in a cab the installation..however do exist something like an upgrade? I mean on the Eten cd there is something like a bluetooth upgrade or something helpfull?

Hoping someone can direct this hack.

Come on, we've got a chance! There's a user who want to help us...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Can you not transfer the call back to the handset by pressing the connect button on the headset once in call?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gazzrenn:
Interesting !

I shall try that now and report back !

As a side note, i did get the car thing sort or working....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] roguel:
Bluetooth support for the 2.1 version of VoiceDial SP

News on http://www.fonix.com/page.cfm?name=news&id=1554 shows they added support for bluetooth in the 2.1 version of VoiceDial for SP. I asked if they had plans on adding bluetooth support for PPC as wel but no response yet.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] liusam:
I've got half the function working now....when I press the Answer key on my BT headset, it did activates the Voice Command program to accept the Voice input, however, I found the voice command could only accept via the Mini's handset instead of the BT headset. Is the hack will accept only handset voice calling, or did I do anything wrong still to make the voice calling from the BT headset? :oops:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] roguel:
Reply from: Voice Dial Support [VoiceDialSupport@fonix.com]

We will have full bluetooth support for the upcoming HTC devices based on Windows Mobile 5.0.

On these devices you will be able to assign VoiceDial to the Bluetooth headset button. All you have to do is push the button on the headset, no need to push any buttons on the device.

This is something we have been working towards for a very long time...

Fonix Support

:(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] roguel:
The strange thing is that when installing the 2.1 SP version on my SPV M500 the bluetooth button works fine, also disconnecting the bluetooth headset if you do not get in a call.

Still no audio though...

Apparently Mobile 5 will have new features in the BT stack as well.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] swedbass:
I got the following reply from Microsoft to my request for the Voice command activation via bluetooth - at least they were responsive:

"Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Customer Service.

I personally think, what you would like to implement is very reasonable and understand how frustrating it is when you find that the product does not meet your needs. I will forward your suggestion to our development team so that they may improve this by an update patch to be released in the future or in the next version of the product.

Also, I suggest that you provide your feedback in the following page:

https://support.microsoft.com/common/survey.aspx?scid=sw;en;1208

David, this site is for ideas on new or improved features and services that you would like to see added and ways to make Microsoft products easier. Your suggestions are always welcome there. "

Perhaps if we all let them know we want this function a patch will be developed sooner.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
There is no real reason why the code from Wm5 (the btscosnd driver) cant be implemented in wm2003. All it does is act live a sound (wav) driver.

However I have not been able to get the driver working properly - simply due to my lack of knowledge. I can compile the code (from the wm5 platform kit) and the driver initialises fine most of the time.

I'm sure someone with the technical knowhow (i.e. how to develop drivers) could modify the driver slightly and make it work on the JAM.

The only problem I can see with the Jam devices as it seems that the GSM output might be somehow hardwired straight to the device speaker. I noticed that if I totally removed the standard wav driver then sound STILL came out the speaker - although the mic did not work.

Guess its just the way HTC designed the device.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
FYI - They have found the ETEN m500 bootloader mode

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=714874

rom soon?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Artosoft:
RMG,

I try the hack (the latest) on my O2 mini with Sony HBH-660 bluetooth.

I delete the HBH-660 Bluetooth handsfree on O2 mini first. When I pair the HBH-660, it say that my HBH-660 is comply to "headset" profile, and ask whether I want to use "headset" profile. Which should I apply to HBH-660? turn on the "headset" profile or not? Before the hack, I don't think I see the request to turn on "headset" profile.

Either turn on "headset" profile or not give me the same result as below:

- When I press the bluetooth button, the HBH-660 display shown the Voice Dial icon. Great! This never happend before the hack.

- Microsoft voice command icon appear on O2 mini. This hack successfully do it purpose to use the bluetooth button to activate the Voice command. Great too!

- I hear the "hiss...." sound on HBH-660. This never stop until I turn off the HBH-660. I am afraid the battery of HBH-660 is affected.

- I can speak to voice command. But I am not sure whether the mic on HBH-660 transfer my voice, or the mic on O2 mini capture my loud voice. The speaker on O2 mini sound the respons of Voice command. Any comment on this (whether it is from Bluetooth's mic or not)?

- No sound come out from HBH-660's speaker. No announcement of caller of incoming call.

That's my finding.

Thanks for your effort, hopefully this can help a bit.

Arto
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Trident:
After reading this entire thread I have but one question. Since it appears that both devices are using WM2K3, what are the odds that this patch might work on my PPC6600 (which is referred to in this forum as Blue Angel, I believe).

At the worst, could it do any damage that wouldn't be easily repairable?

Not asking for guarantees, but just partial functioning of my BT headset(s) would be great.

Thanks,

Trident
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] liusam:
You're having the same problem as mind....your voice command is captured via the PPC's mic instead of the BT headset. That's no real use yet until the BT can pick up the voice command and hear the audio response from the PPC. :roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] paulf707:
Hi

Can you confirm that using a 'normal' 2.5mm to 3.5mm adaptor to extract the audio from the phone (to feed into a car stereo or similar) still leaves the internal mic active (I though it would be disabled)??

I've made up an adaptor that includes a mic input as well (for an external mic in the car) - I guess I'm doing similar stuff to you.

If anyone's interested in what I've been doing with car stuff, look at:

http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=224626&hl=car cradel&st=15

Very interested in this BT stuff though - will be trying this out when I get my headset.

Are there any issues over which type of BT Headset to get for the M500? - Do any work, or are there specific things I need to be looking for?

Thanks

PaulF
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Questions:

If I install Fonix 2.1 to my SPV M500 then BT will work as per the hack?

Is this a seprate fix to the hack or to be used alongside it?

I've checked the fonix web site and it only mentions smartphones, not PDAs.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] neckarb:
how do you turn off the internal mic for voice command? and just leave input for bt headset?

also is there a way of making the audio for all applications i.e WMedia player?

thanks in advance
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jackleung:
Don't you feel annoying for not reading the posts before posting a new question? And it's further annoying for posting 5 messages(including this http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27399) continously for the same question.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] neckarb:
i have read this thread, i accidentally posted it three times, i have not found anywhere to about turning the mic off i have asked in four forums the same question now and no one has given me a straight answer they all just reply with a question so please, can you turn the mic off and if so how?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
There is no way of routing system audio to the BT mic or headset. This must either be done in hardware or someone has to get the btscosnd driver from the WM5 development kit working (i tried and failed).

The audio in the Jam is hardware routed to the speaker.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
I think the answer is no.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] neckarb:
thank you i wish shomeone would have just told me that you cant turn the mic off to begin with.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gazzrenn:
Howdy, yes i plug in the standard (two ringed) 2.5 > 3.5mm adapter and the internal mic works just fine on the phone.

Unexpected bonus i say :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Hurdoc:
Newbie comment and question

Sorry for my newbieness but I just tried this hack for my i-mate Jam with a Jabra 250v. All it does is allow me to turn on Voice Command via the button on my headset. I still have to speak into the Jam, and listen from it as well. Is this correct? If so, that's not much to write home about. I don't see the fascination.

I apologize if I come out sounding ungrateful, I think the author is doing a fantastic job. Maybe the problem is me, did I install it incorrectly or do something wrong?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] adit:
Re: Newbie comment and question

No, there isn't anything wrong with ur installation, thats the way it is and it doesnt turn off ur bluetooth *mic* too so it will drain ur battery. There is no fix to this yet, so just wait or get a WM5 device. and PLEASE don't ask any of this question anymore until we get a fix.

::adit
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
For Help With Bluetooth!!!

Sorry, VoiceDial 2.0 for Windows Mobile 2003 devices does not support Bluetooth at this time and will be considered legacy devices. This is a limitation of the Windows Mobile operating system and the devices that are currently available. Currently Bluetooth audio only reaches the telephony circuitry and not the main cpu where we need it to do speech recognition. We are currently working with Microsoft and several device manufacturers to correct this problem in future devices.

A possible workaround is to use a device such as the Jabra A210. This device will connect your Bluetooth headset directly to the audio jack of your Windows Mobile Device.

If you have a SmartPhone device like the Audiovox SMT5600 or iMate sp3, then VoiceDial 2.1 will work great with your Bluetooth headset. The hardware won't support starting VoiceDial from your headset button, but you should be able to launch it from the phone and then do everything else through the Bluetooth headset.

The iMate JasJar that was just released does support launching VoiceDial via your Bluetooth headset!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
XDA

At the moment VoiceDial 2.0 is the latest version for the XDA. No upgrade is necessary. VoiceDial 2.1 is only available for SmartPhones.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
This is working for me?

apujols / adit I dont understand what bug you are talking about???
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Re: For Help With Bluetooth!!!

But I thought that the Eten M500 does do this? and that is PPC2003SE with M$ Bluetoothn stack.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
Bluetooth Stack

There-in lies the difference. The majority of all PPC2003SE devices use the

Widcomm Bluetooth stack and do not support the BT Audio gateway. If you

have a device like the Eten M500 that uses the Microsoft BT stack and it

supports the BT Audio gateway then it is very possible that VoiceDial and/or

VoiceCentral will work with that device through a BT headset.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Re: Bluetooth Stack

Sorry, but the XDA2i had the widcomm stack and does support the audio gateway. As does the Loox 720 pocket PC. Devices with the widcomm stack are more likley to support the audio gateway, not less likely. The point of this thread was to get it (and voicedial initiation) working on the Magician, as it works on the Eten and they both use the (inferior) M$ stack...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Re: Bluetooth Stack

duplicate post
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] a.ortuno@ya.com:
Hi,

can anyone let me know if the source code for the dll is available.

I need to change the path for the VoiceSignal Launcher.exe file.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
The source code is part of the Windows Mobile Platform Builder 5 which you can download a trial version. You can take the code and put it in a c++ compiler (evc++4). I dont have the source code to hand.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] gx04:
create a shortcut with the same name!

This should fix the problem!

it worked just fine with my imate jam!

--gx
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] a_dupond:
Hi,

I'm using the S100 version of magician from SFR (french brand of the Vodafone group), Bluetrek G2 headset, and Microsoft's Voice Command.

I've installed the .cab file on my device but nothing happens when I press my headset's button. Actually, I can't find the voicecmd.exe or Voice Signal Launcher.exe file in the \Windows directory.

Could you tell me if I made something wrong or if the zip file doesn't work with my devices ?

Thank you very much.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
I dont know why the cab file wouldnt work. If you go through the post there are step by step instructions which will work if followed correctly.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Axl_Warlock:
The same problem. :evil:

I use Vito Voice Dialer. It works fine if I start it manually, but, copied to Windows directory and properly renamed ".exe" file doesn't start automatically (also working fine while starting renamed file manually) !

:idea: It MUST be a some kind of mistake in CAB file or in manual, maybe, in filename :?: :?: :?:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
Know Bug: Serial Number + Bluetooth Help

On Fonix VoiceDial 2.1 WM5 PPC:

Try running the install but don't enter a serial number. You should still

be able to install VoiceDial this way. After VoiceDial is install you can

enter the license/serial number by starting VoiceDial and after the initial

prompt, tap on the Menu->About menu item. When the "About" dialog comes up

you should be able to enter the License/serial number.

I did a little testing this morning. VoiceDial 2.0 for WM 5.0 does not have

a menu item "Enable Bluetooth". That is in VoiceDial 2.1 for SP2003;

however, it WILL still work with BT headsets. I verified that this morning.

As long as the device is an HTC WM 5.0 device it should work just fine.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] had:
I'm sorry but could you please make it clear:

Does this hack enable voice dialling via BT

or it just

launches voice dial program and you still have to speak to JAM?

It looks like last one for me. Voice commander launches by the button on the BT handsfree but commands are accepted ONLY through the JAM's mic.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] irek4u:
Does not work at all

I have t-mobile xda mini and vito voice dial i try to instal thas program for my bluetooth No way Jose it does not work !!!

Grate software.

Irek
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] irek4u:
You realy need a very smart pc person to make it work i did not sacced.

Irek
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] INFINITYRESTATE:
PLEASE HELP THE TECHNICALLY IMPAIRED

Hi, I think the work you guys have done with allowing the BT headsets answer phone calls using ms voice command is really amazing... great job guys... but l have no idea what anyone is saying when it comes to installling codes to make this happen... where do l start? l cant even operate my digital cable remote.. lm scared of even attemting to do this... is there a program l can just run that will enable me to use voice command via BT headset? l have a siemens sx66, the blue angle l suppose some people know it as, and l moto HS820 headset... what do l do? please help. :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] a_dupond:
HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm now using HTC Wizard (named Qtek 9100 in France) running WM5.

My device came with a built-in version of Voice-Speed Dial in Rom.

This soft works well but you can't enjoy it when you know the powerfull combination Micorsoft's Voice Command + Project_VCABT.

So, I have TWO problems :

- Is it possible to delete Voice-Speed Dial (not just replace the link for the button) ?

- How could Project-VCABT work on that new device knowing that it seems it doesn't recognize "headset" profiles (so, if you delete the "hands-free" reg profile, you simply have no profile at all for your device) ? :shock:

Please, please, please, help me because I feel stupid to have got that new device without asking before if it would work as well as my old HTC Magician (Qtek S100 in France).

Thank you for your help.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Try asking in the wizard forum.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Flipside:
How do I uninstall this again, it is making my phone (Qtek S110) acting really weird, so I would like to go back to normal, but when I try uninstalling there's a dll running preventing me from doing so... : \BTAGExtModule.dll

Please help someone, I would like to go back to "normal" without having to do a hard-reset...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
Rename that file, soft reset, then delete. Or you can search the registry for the file name and remove it from there.

But I can tell you that it wont be that file thats cauing your problems, the file basically does nothing other then run a program when the BT headset button is pressed, the code is part of the WM Plaform kit (samples).

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Flipside:
Thanks :) but it must be this that makes my device acting weird, it's the only thing I have changed recently.....Guess I'm in for a hard-reset after all... :roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] paketecuento:
oohhh yeaaahhh. working in himalaya

now tested in himalaya with wm2005 and M$ bt stack and WORKING 100%.

thanks to everybody
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rumpelstielz:
is there any posibility to use this with a cable headset?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
VoiceDial Workaround for the Sprint 6700

As you may know HTC has a frimware problem with the Bluetooth headset on the Sprint 6700 device. The workaround for one touch activation on the Bluetooth headset after the product is launched is as follows: Instead of using VoiceDial 2.0 WM5 PPC that was designed for the product, use VoiceDial 2.1 SP2003 that is for the smartphone platform. This can be downloaded at www.PocketGear.com and you can email VoiceDialSupport@fonix.com for any further details.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] RickPrice:
Further Help

You can also find me @: http://fonixcorp.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=general
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] joney0210:
ETEN M600 with MOTO HS850

I'm use the device ETEN M600 and handset MOTO HS850

the system is WM5,

I try to use the cab file, when i soft reset my device, the bluetooth cant start service ,

an anyone can tell me other way to do this job ? i'm look all of the post, but i cant find out how to do this on my device M600 :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] xerxes:
Just wanted to say thanks...

...to Paul and Adamz and anyone else who worked on this.

This is the last piece that I needed to get my Magician to be a workable in car phone.

Now if only I could find a piece of software that could magically extend the battery life I'd be happy (for a little while at least!)

X
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Armes:
Paul et al,

I've spent some time this evening reading right through this thread and am amazed by some of the work done here, especially by Paul. I've tried to follow the arguements about what the Widdcom and MS BT stack will and won't do with varying levels of success, so I thought I'd outline my position, and finish with a simple question.

I own a Nissan with a factory BT handsfree built in through the radio. It pairs with my XDAII but won't make or receive calls (hence me browing this thread). It will however work perfectly well with my old Sony Ericcson 68i bluetooth phone, so at the moment I forward my calls from the XDA to the Sony (cheap pay as you go SIM) when in the car. If the BT hands free works so well with the Sony, why does it not work with the XDA? In my simple mind, they are both phones, they both have BT so why do they not both work?

Regards,

John W
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Because Sony know how to make a decent BT stack and M$ dont.

Basically.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wyatt1887:
Project VCABT Doesn't Install

When I run the cab file on my MDAc (German, most recent software) I get an error message ...file BTAGextModule.dll is in use or located in ROM. If not in ROM close application using this file...

Closing all applications via the explorer doesn't help - same message.

I have Fonix Voice Dial installed...

Other question is: Once VCABT works, how does it work? Do I need to activate Fonix and keep it runnung idle, waiting for a call to come in? Or is it activated automatically when I press the talk button?

Thanks for your help in advance, folks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
1st post updated because of the fantastic news regarding a working A2DP BT patch (That does everything else bar making the toast as well)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] d00d:
guyz, plz update the first post because right now it is really misleading.

The situation, as it appears to me, is:

right now the only thing you activate is the BT hands free BUTTON.

you still have to speak to the HANDset microphone

you will not hear anything through the HEADset

your HEADset audio receiver will stay on indefinitely using up its battery (unless you place a call or turn it off)

am I right?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] marto_martin:
Any feedback?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] shayani:
I'm lost!!!

First, thanks for all replyes here that I used to try to make it work... But I still cannot have my BT HS850 dial to anywhere.

I use MS Voice command 1.5 and when I press the BT button, it starts and waits for my voice. But it doesn't listen my voice from the BT HS850. I tried several times different CABs, reg infos, etc...

Does it really works? Does anybody made it works for I-mate Jam? Can anyone send me a step-by-step?

Sorry asking this, but I read the thread 10 times and still cannot make it work.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] psneddon:
On the Jam, the GSM radio is HARDWIRED to the speaker and mic. I know this by speaking to some MS guys and also by disabling the WAV driver. This is why HTC never implemented the bluetooth dialling themselves, it just was not possible.

So the hack we created only ACTIVATES the voice dialling, it still needs to be performed via the speaker and mic.

It is possible to use the SCO driver (audio packets via bluetooth) from the platform kit but I have tried and cant get it to work. I dont know if its a driver or hardware issue.

Paul
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
1st post updated.

--

rmg.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Li Xiaoyuan:
Hi Rmg,

Thank you for your useful patch. But it can not work in Dopod818 with cyberon voice command , When the bluetooth headset in voice control status and I speak to headset, it seems the voice command did not receive any voice through headset. Would you pls help me find out what is wrong.

I really need the voice dial via bluetooth headset.

Thanks in advance!

Lxy
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] medicor:
About the audio on the Bt in my I-mate/Magician/BlueAngel

hello, I start to view this forum a few days and think this is a wonderfull site and i found a lot of answer of my question with help of you.

And the question that still on is: I installed the cab file on my i-mate and the cab file work very well, but the audio does not go to the BT. Any body aready know the answer about this issue? And about hear music using the BT.

Thanks, folks.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
There is currently NO WAY to transfer system audio to a BT headset on the Magician.