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[Android Apps and Games] davebuk:
All working well here. Very happy Nexus 5 owner. Well done and thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] vlasis_myr:
Everything working just fine...thanks a lot dev.......

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[Android Apps and Games] InfDaMarvel:
I dont want to read through the thread but after seeing this get posted on Xda News Im just need to leave this here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2510685 Hangouts + 8SMS
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Mms over wifi (Sprint)

Hi,

Forgot to mention ... in the new version 1.12 of 8sms, there is support for mms over wifi.

It has been tested by some users and should be working for Sprint.

If anyone is on T-Mobile with Wifi calling and would like to help me verify whether this implementation of mms over wifi works for T-Mobile, please let me know.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] comptonhubbard:
I thought MMS could not be sent over WIFI that it had to go over data?
[Android Apps and Games] dapra95:
Guys this look good of features... Great app. I think you change icon for your app... Sorri for crazy idea but all about that very nice... And good job. Save your time bro...
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Sprint has a quirk which is mms over wifi. I think it might be related to some new 'IP multimedia subsystem' 3g/4g technology or something.

I don't know much about the details. I only know that if I re-route the code in 8sms to send and receive mms over wifi, it works.
[Android Apps and Games] Wildfear:
Great work here !

Is that possible to make it compatible for dual sim phones ?

Would be very nice !
[Android Apps and Games] jeekajoo:
thanks for this app.. but, where are the sources?
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
Check,

Check,

Check.

Thanks a bunch. Though, I'll admit to having used this app exclusively for a while now. It's just smoother, lighter weight, and offers so much more information than any of the other 3rd party messaging apps I've ever tried.

I don't do the bitcoin thing, or I'd through you a bone.

Get that Paypal link working! Or maybe a donate version of the app?

Great work. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] jokary77:
bug, I think

for me, can not send sms as impossible to enter my contacts
[Android Apps and Games] jonathan3579:
I don't know if these features would be easy to integrate or not but they are things that would seal it's fate as my daily driver:

-Private Box

-Ability to change LED color

I didn't see the option for either one of these in the settings and I use both regularly. I'd love to be able to get away from Handcent, GoSMS Pro, etc... Other than those "missing" things, I think the app looks and performs great! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] dabenaute:
Thanks for this app works fine on my phone!
[Android Apps and Games] comptonhubbard:
I tried it and it works
[Android Apps and Games] cyburke:
looking forward to trying this one myself - thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
See here: http://8s.ms/dual-sim-support

Basically, I'd like to add it some time in the future but it's going to be difficult, so I'm going to need some help (and some testers) when I eventually get around to it.

Hi, sorry, but I don't feel like releasing the source code at the moment. I don't really want someone with a big marketing budget taking the code, use it in a competing app, and then win more exposure simply because they've got more money for marketing (and drown out 8sms in the process).

8sms is still a very small app, and marketing resources is something I definitely don't have.

When 8sms gets enough users that I don't have to fear this happening, then I'll revisit this decision.

In the mean time, if you really want source code, you can download them from Cyanogenmod. It's 98% the same code.

I'm sorry, can you clarify and give me more information please? I don't understand the problem you have.

Private Box ... I think you mean password protection? I've said before in previous posts that I don't think password protection is a good thing. It's a red herring because it would only protect the app, it doesn't protect the messages which are stored outside of 8sms.

Ability to change LED color ... this is on my to-do list. Hopefully soon.
[Android Apps and Games] Wildfear:
Thanks for the answer, i'm available for testing as i own some dual sim phones such as S4 mini duos (i9192), ZTE v987, ...

If you need deoxed stock apps with dual sim included, or any testing, i'm not far !
[Android Apps and Games] blackhand1001:
Can we get an option to choose the launcher and titlebar icon similar to how supersu does. Also an option to disable the bubbles on the dark theme. I personally use my own apk-tool cm messaging app that I made myself. It would be nice to have something on this app similar to this which I use myself. I have my holo gradient blacked out so its pitch black but with the gradients normal the app uses them. The background is just set as transparent so it uses whatever the android framework uses.

Gradient

No Gradient
[Android Apps and Games] trikotret:
You think Trish will mind if she gets text Messages :)

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Android Apps and Games] Listy2021:
Bengtan can you please add the option to hide the user pictures in 8sms :)
[Android Apps and Games] blackhand1001:
Edited the number out now lol.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Like that blue color... looks really nice. Hopefully we get theming options in the future in 8sms!
[Android Apps and Games] trikotret:
Honestly that blue is just aosp message in other ROMs. 8sms looks different than the rest. But would be nice to have themes for it

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Android Apps and Games] blackhand1001:
Yeah, I made that mms theme myself. I apk-tool it from the stock cyanogenmod mms.apk.
[Android Apps and Games] AndyPOZ:
Strip Unicode only when 70+ characters

Hi!

I've got only one question to the developer. Would it be possible to add an option to Strip Unicode only when the message exceeds 70 characters?

No matter if it's possible or not - thanks for the great app!
[Android Apps and Games] HiDEFF:
Request: scheduled messages would be nice. If not possible, no worries.
[Android Apps and Games] pcgaldo:
Mmmm. Interesting...

If your app is based on CM code, it must be published with the same or a compatible license. And I think that you must publish the source code since you make a public release of derived binaries.

The app handles privacy-compromised data and have lots of permissions. In order to be sure about privacy, all code must be published.

Can you imagine what could be the opinion of the programmers of the original code? Independently of the reasons, you're using their work in the wrong way.

I don't understand why Google admits it in Play Store without review license infringements.

Good work, but if it's free or open source, you must keep working respecting the license agreements.
[Android Apps and Games] patmannyc:
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, but MMS messages on my stock Nexus 5 are NOT auto-retrieving. Other than that this app is the BEST, any fixes out there?
[Android Apps and Games] alinoo:
Hi ,

It's a great app . i LOVE it!!

The samsung sms app it's not good and no colorful emoji.

I just have an issue with this app.

When i receive a sms , my phone doesn't wake up . It's annoying for me. I love when a notification wakes my phone. It's a good way for me to know i have a sms specially when my phone is on silent mode.

Anyone has this problem too ?

I'm on a samsung S3mini.

Great job , dev !
[Android Apps and Games] jonathan3579:
I mean being able to hide messages from certain contacts in a "hidden inbox" of sorts. I don't want to protect the entire app or the entire list of messages, I just want to be able to hide some contact's messages from direct line of sight. Does that make more sense?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi, well, I'm not ready to work on dual sim yet, but could you email me then please so I can note your email down? Use the registered developer email address for 8sms (which will reach me). I'd prefer to conduct the actual testing and discussion in email (or somewhere else) rather than cluttering up this thread. Thanks.

[MENTION=4244043]blackhand1001[/MENTION]: Thanks for this tidbit. I was looking for information on how to do something like this (configurable launcher and application icon) last time but didn't find anything useful. I'll have a look at supersu.

And you seem quite knowledgeable. I haven't even had time to look up how to do themeable apps, but I hope to soon. I don't suppose you have any pointers off the top of your head to good documentation (or other xda forum posts)?

Probably not directly. I'd rather make 8sms themeable and then users can create their own theme (or select one created by someone else) which doesn't show the user pictures.

Just ... don't ... have ... time ... yet :(

If you did that to cm mms, you can probably do the same to 8sms. The white theme is identical.

Why 70? That seems very arbitrary. Interesting idea, but quite minor ... so it'll have to wait until other larger tasks are done.

Request noted. This would be near the bottom of the wish list, so it's not going to happen anytime soon yet. Sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Yes, mms auto-retrieve is not working for KitKat / Nexus 5. Unfortunately, the person who said he'd help me with this has not replied back to my emails, so I'm looking out for other people to help me. Anyone want to volunteer? Email me please.

Must be an Android developer or power user, must know how to use adb and get logcats, must be willing to install a debug version of 8sms on their phone (and lose all their 8sms settings).

Oh, and must have a Nexus 5 phone :)

This is already on my to-do list ... and then Android 4.4 came along and burned a week of my time :)

And it looks like it's going to burn another week :(

Thanks, yes, the description makes more sense now. Personally, right now, I don't think I want to go there. The messages are stored in a system database on the phone and it'll be technically troublesome to modify a system database to add a new 'private box' flag or create a separate add-on database and keep it all in sync.

I can see a lot of costs in terms of the code I'd have to write, debug and maintain. I don't quite see much of a benefit.

Hence, I probably won't want to implement something like this ... unless there's a very good economic reason to do so ... or unless Google implements it in Android and I can just merge it in. Or unless I'm very bored ... but you'll probably have to wait a very long time for any of those to happen.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
8sms source code licensed under Apache license

I already checked at the beginning. CM (and most of Android) can be licensed under the Apache license.

The Apache license states that copyright notices in source code cannot be removed. In other words, correct attribution has to be made. That is all.

The Apache license does not say that I have to provide source code with binaries.

IF I DO choose to provide source code, then I have to attribute the upstream contributors.

At this moment, I choose NOT TO provide source code.

You are confusing the Apache license with the GPL. GPL source code must be provided with binaries.

8sms is not using GPL licensed source code.

This is an orthogonal and separate issue. Let's please not diverge.

I imagine they'll be fine with it because they chose to release source code under the Apache license.

I'm not infringing the Apache license.

I agree. I am respecting the Apache license.
[Android Apps and Games] AndyPOZ:
As far as I recall when the message is 70 characters or less (or 67 or less - I don't remember) it doesn't matter if national characters (for example Polish ą, ę, ś, ć, etc.) are used, but if the message is longer than 70 (or 67) and contains national characters it's split into 2 or more messages. In that second case, striping Unicode is great option! But it would be great if in first case the national characters weren't removed even if the strip Unicode option is ON.

Sorry I wasn't clear in my previous post.

Anyway, thank you for your effort, I really love this app!
[Android Apps and Games] Wildfear:
Done ;)
[Android Apps and Games] coldmoonbeam:
Now works w/ GSIII official 4.3 stock based firmware. Very nice and a big thanks.:thumbup::o
[Android Apps and Games] jonathan3579:
Thanks for your reply! I understand what you're saying. If by chance, you decide to explore it and other people take an interest whether that be donation-based or not, count me in for support!
[Android Apps and Games] MidnightDevil:
Hi,

First of all, thank you for this app :)

Second, I cannot access play store for now so my option is to download through http and copy it to the mobile. In order to do so I went to the website;

But I don't want the older version, I want the current release. Is it posted as the last "older" version? 1.12 latest?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Correct brotha.... 1.12 is the latest!
[Android Apps and Games] MidnightDevil:
Thank you, and thank you again for providing us a alternative mirror :)
[Android Apps and Games] siraltus:
Loving 8sms. I disabled my crappy stock Samsung app and have been using it for a while now.

I noticed an inconsistency in the dark theme.

When you're viewing the conversation list, and there are no conversations in the list, the background is the standard holo dark gradiented background. But as soon as you add a conversation to the list, the background turns to solid black, while it should remain gradiented holo dark instead.

Also, when you're in a conversation, the text input field is also solid black instead of holo dark, which makes the app look segmented and awkward.

Can we please apply the holo dark background consistently everywhere? Thank you for your hard work! :good: :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] neuropsychosis:
Good job. I like how this can compliment whatever sms client you already have.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Understood now. At the moment, this seems to be a very specialised and very niche use case, and I'm going to delay thinking about it until some other more pressing things have been done. Can you ask me again in 2-3 months time please?

I've added this line to the Downloads page:

To find out what is the latest version of 8sms, please see the changelog.

Noted. Thank you. I'm going to leave this and address it later when I re-do the themeing.
[Android Apps and Games] AndyPOZ:
Sure! Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] siraltus:
Thank you! :D
[Android Apps and Games] :
I am absolutely amazed at how great this app has become, on SPrint I am able to now send MMS and it uses wifi instead of starting 3g/4g now and they send extremely fast. As far as I know this is the first SMS app outside of stock apps that will send over wifi without any issues on Sprint.

bengtan is very fast and willing to work with users which is very nice. Please everyone who is requesting features remember that the more that is added means the "heavier" the app will become, let's try and keep this light weight and functional as much as possible :)

thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Evo_Shift:
Would it be possible to have the popup over the lockscreen but not turn the screen on? I love being able to turn the phone on and easily reply to messages but most of the time I wouldn't see the screen turn on which would just lead to battery drain.

That's really the only thing I am having a hard time leaving handcent for but other than that this app is great for me. I like the icon better too.
[Android Apps and Games] dieGeist:
Will this have Google Voice support?

Right now Textra and this app are my favorite yet neither supports GV, so I'm using Sliding messenger which isn't really my style.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
On my to-do list, I have noted to add the ability to momentarily turn the screen on. Would that work for you instead?

Otherwise, I don't really understand how "popup over the lockscreen but not turn the screen on" is helpful. If the screen is not turned on, the popup might be displayed, but the screen is still off (ie. black) so how would the popup be useful?

I'm not familiar with Google Voice. Can you please list what features you mean when you say "Google Voice support"? Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] lexluthor:
Another vote for popup over the lock screen, but not turn the screen on. That's how I use Verizon messages now. I don't need the screen to come on automatically, but when I turn it on, it's nice to see the popup box right there on top of the lock screen.

Also, any progress on per conversation notification settings that we communicated about here a week or 2 ago?
[Android Apps and Games] siraltus:
Google Voice is Google's free IP-based voice+SMS service. www.google.com/voice I think it's only available in the US, though.

By "Google Voice" support he means the app sending and receiving SMS via Google Voice rather than the cellular carrier. Some SMS apps let you toggle between the two modes.
[Android Apps and Games] detonation:
Having some problems sending MMS. I have a Verizon Droid DNA running a Sense 5 ROM and MMS/Group Texts work great through the stock messaging app. However, when I try to send them through 8sms, the message always fails to send and I get "No APN specified on the device" and "Couldn't send due to network problem". If I switch over to the stock messenger and retry sending it, it will work (though I still get a "No APN specified" toast and sometimes it says it failed even though it goes through). If I disable 8sms and send from stock messages I got no errors at all. My MMS settings are exactly the same between both apps. Any ideas?
[Android Apps and Games] pcgaldo:
Yes, you're right. Apache license allows to convert open source projects into proprietary. This is the Google strategy.

But Apache license v2 is compatible with GPLv3. You can convert an open source project into a free/libre project, licensing your code with the free license. Using this strategy, opposed to Google's one, if one of those big companies takes your code and makes a derivative work, they're required to publish their derived code, that you or anyone else can use later.

But, if you're a developer with low economic resources, those companies can take the original code, licensed under Apache v2, put your free code on it and publish it closing the code. Could you claim the infringement? If you can claim it, could you face the legal process against a big company?

I have to admit that you act right closing the code to defend your work.

What is not good is the Apache License traps and strategies that big companies have to kidnap open source and kill ir when it suits them.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
To add to this, I do think bengtan that now you are asking for donations that you should (and may be required to by the license, not sure) maintain a full list of your tweaks to the cyanogen app/base (not source code but addition/functionality high level), to make sure people don't mistake your work for the stock cyanogen/aosp source/functionality. As it reads the notable features you list, it's unclear what you have done... just a thought as you yourself note that this is 98% source that you didn't create.

Oh and good luck with themes/styles, I had to ditch the google/android xml style b*lls to start getting what I want :)
[Android Apps and Games] Shredder87:
Try going to MMSC in Settings and put as follows *everything in lower case*

MMSC

http://mms.vtext.com/servlets/mms

MMS Proxy

Leave blank

MMS Port

Leave blank

That's how I get my MMS going.
[Android Apps and Games] devrruti:
App looks great, but the only reason I haven't installed is because I don't like to use closed source code for an SMS app :( I just wanted to share this opinion with the developer as a user.

Too many permissions for a code that only the developer knows what it does. You are asking us to trust you our money, privacy and security.

Making it opensource would boost reputation of the app, it would make it trustworthy, also you could defend your code with the proper licenses (if someone tries to steal your code this person should publish the code too) even benefit from contributions. I don't see the disadvantages, quite the opposite.

I would be using IOS if I wanted closed source nice apps

A good idea that almost no app has and would have great demand nowadays, is encrypted messaging, your app should be used by both persons in that case, that would help spread the app. You could base your code on textsecure (GPL) app

Making it open source and being superior to other apps, 8sms would even be included in almost every ROM out there.

Good luck
[Android Apps and Games] WiwiPouPou:
I really would like to see some privacy options in settings, like a xposed extension or chomp / textra propose : only see sender name in notification, not message...

The creator of sms xposed made it in a minute so... Why not?

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk 4
[Android Apps and Games] pcgaldo:
bengtan are trapped by the Apache license and afraid about big companies. He (or she, I don't know) is trying to protect his work. But it also affects the users confidence about privacy. What we can do?
[Android Apps and Games] freddienuxx:
Is it possible to add theming like black bean old Mms.apk? Thx in advance

Sent from nexus4
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Okay, I'll think about it, but I have a pretty long to-do list right now :)

If you have a phone with a rom which has separate sounds for alerts or notifications for contacts, then 8sms should support it. Samsung Touchwiz has, so 8sms plays per-contact alert tones on Samsung roms. Most other roms don't have this feature (yet) so it's not supported by 8sms when operating on those roms.

If you have a rom which has separate per-contact notification tones, and 8sms isn't playing them, please let me know and I'll investigate. Thank you.

Hm, okay. I don't think I'll have time for this in the medium future. Maybe in the far future ... like 6-9 months from now? (I even rumours that Google is going to kill Google Voice eventually too.)

See http://8s.ms/cant-send-mms and make sure you check the "MMSC settings" in 8sms (not the Android settings). Or do what Shredder87 says (post #452).

Noted. Thanks.

Themeing is on the to-do list. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I had to read up until that line before I realise you weren't disagreeing with me.

I'm not against open source. I think it's great ... I'm just not ready to give out the code to 8sms yet.

Not required, but not a bad idea.

Actually, people who want to know can just read the changelog. That's probably good enough for now.

That's okay devrruti, I understand and respect your position. Thanks for being honest.

Releasing the 8sms source code as GPL could be interesting. I'd have to think about that.

At the moment, I don't think there is much that can be done.

I'm not ready to release 8sms as open source (for reasons here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47243943&postcount=412). This is my decision.

If people don't want to use 8sms because it's not open source, that's their decision. I respect that.

One day ... when 8sms is as well known as Textra or Go or Handcent, then I'll consider releasing 8sms as open source.
[Android Apps and Games] freddienuxx:
Thanks keep up great work. Don't know what Google was thinking Thx again

NEXUS 4 ON THAT CARBON ROM
[Android Apps and Games] detonation:
Thanks for the responses. My MMSC settings are exactly as quoted above and I had checked that link but nothing really applied to me. I'm going to be flashing a new ROM later today, maybe a clean start will fix it otherwise I'll do some more troubleshooting and post back here.
[Android Apps and Games] lexluthor:
True, but I don't want to add the people I don't want notifications for as contacts. Other SMS apps allow either per conversation custom notifications. If you don't want to add that, that's up to you.