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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
New Version 0.1.0 (iteration 50)

OK deciding to release this version a little early (have got some other personal things to sort)

in short

Changes'ish

fk tonne of bug fixes (inc some of the 2.3+ requests)

new rules/notification customizations

quick compose

quick reply (with full conversations, currently using temp theme components (as in it copies from the theme, I have yet to design split theme components for it))

New base dark'ish theme inherited from dusk (these are to base themes off, not final)

More things that I just can't remember

Things that will be next

Fail Reports attached to action list

Move Controls for conversations and messages

Possibly some pretty themes that will push the visuals a bit more

May introduce an area of the app for "extreme experimental functions" :)

Per Rule Custom Vibration Patterns

Sort the sound (currently does nothing) notification + rule integration

Things I would like testing

Rules

Like overriding various defaults (found in Settings > Processing) with custom rule based notifications, just test see if they work

Quick/Reply/Compose

Basic testing etc

Sorry if there are any major bugs, I'm both a bit distracted and lacking concentration atm... any reports of bugs I will address as soon as I can.

Cheers again
[Android Apps and Games] b1ue:
[MENTION=219616]Dean[/MENTION]: I was wondering if it was possible to send massages to someone not in your contact list? It keeps saying the to field is empty.

No hurry...take some time to get your head on straight. Looking forward to next version
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
Waiting for you to release :D
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah all u do is enter a number and hit + does that not Work?
[Android Apps and Games] b1ue:
It worked. I had a dead spot on my screen and I couldn't hit the + button. My case wasnt closed all the way lmao
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
New version is great thanks. Love that notifications in notification bar now have expandable action. One thing though.

As it is now notifications are expandable with two finger swipe by default, could we have optional setting in options to have messages in notification bar expanded with actions by default?

I'm a big guy, with big hands so two finger swipe in notification bar isn't natural for me and I would love that you could have all sms/mms messages in notification bar expanded by default so I can press reply or call or whatever option there is without having to first two finger swipe to show actions?

The gmail app do this great so maybe it's possible to have this option in smartmessager as well?

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Also would love to see an option to have a non intrusive way to see if a message is Sendt/Delivered.

The best way I've seen this done is the sms/mms app called Textra in play store.

The way Textra do it is when sending a message you see right under the message being send a small non intrusive text saying "send" and that changes to "received"

Hard to explain so easiest way to see how is done is to install Textra as is a free app and see for yourself.

And by the way for me Textra is the app to beat as in my opinion is the sms /mms app everyone else have to beat in terms of sending sms and mms. It's simple and Damn fast and just works.

Have Smartmessager installed along side it and as soon as mms and non intrusive delivery reports are added Smartmessager have beat it as I like the whole overall feeling and design of smartmessenger better.

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[Android Apps and Games] psykh:
Here when comes a message the screen turn on, how to solve this?

Tapatalkando
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
ChompSms and Textra are made by the same devs, interesting.

Sent from my SGNote 2
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah just looked at textra, see what you mean, I have the "waiting" "sending" and "" <-- meaning sent, but not delivered

well the notifications are just 1st pass at this time, I plan to enable remote views so can have expanded options, but this wont be in the short term, that will be after all core functions are there
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You mean you want the OPTION not to have the screen turn on?
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
No problem. Just throwing out ideas here :)

Maybe your carrier don't support delivery reports. Works fine for me and messages in Textra go through waiting/sending/sent/Delivered

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well oddly enough, I have always had "report" options turned on in every sms app I have ever used (stock + cm) and never seen anything, but even on my UK/o2 I see them in that textra, so should not be that hard to do at all, if I can figure out, what "it/they" are :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
In the version I just put on play, the notification with the highest priority should be expanded by default, but without a custom view in there, not really mass amounts of control with notifications
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Well O2/UK don't use the standard delivery report codes.

I believe for O2 the code to get delivery report is *0#

You can try it out. Just send a test message to your self and put those 3 characters in front of your message

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
oh wow! so delivery reports are just a character prefix ? funky
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Yeah and for the most of the world is pretty much the same code but I know O2 UK uses a different code, why I don't know

Obviously the trick is also to incorporate them in a nice way like Textra do

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
and it actually just gets a special format text back ? or is it a special PDU packet of some sort ? I mean the receipt :)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Maybe this will help?

http://androidprogramz.blogspot.dk/2012/07/send-sms-and-receive-delivery-report-in.html?m=1

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
oh, all taken care of by the OS/Framework, ok that seems like a pile of piss to implement :) standby :)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Google for delivery report prefix for world wide prefix codes for different carriers

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yeah, apparently not needed at all, the framework deals with the codes, I just have to use a simple intent to do my status modifications... doing it now... :)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Damn, I made a difference :D

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You did a fine job of combating my laziness regarding delivery reporting :) thanks...testing now
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ah ok, no, it doesn't handle the codes, cause I'm on o2 I guess, hmmm will put a version up on play now, you can test and report back....looks like I will need a list of carrier codes
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
These should cover most of the world as many are the same for carriers around the world

http://senseiphone.com/carriers-prefix-code-activate-delivery-report-iphone-04022494/

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[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Still didn't get pushed through play store for me yet

Still 0.01.02b

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sorry been busy fixing another big bug, had to break away from looking at this, be back on it shortly :)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Ah ok, i misunderstood you then. It sounded like you were uploading it at the time

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well I was, but have yet to really look at it and debug to see if it does anything, the states are there, the triggers are there and in an ideal world it would work, but sadly not with me, so was going to have a look why :)

Try it, ver 0.01.05b going up now containing some more fixes, but still got delivery enabled :)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Delivery notifications works perfectly. Good work mate.

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
see I'm blind testing that, cause it dont here :)

Are you sure it works, actually, thinking about it, without it working...it would be impossible for it to say delivered !
[Android Apps and Games] chris264:
Very good app so far. Is planned in the next updates a German translation? Nice Greetings

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Would love to support as many languages as possible... but thats probably something I will look to do after release.
[Android Apps and Games] Faaipke:
Very promising and slick app. Is there any way to change font size yet?

Keep it up!
[Android Apps and Games] polobunny:
Looking good. Subscribed to this thread, hopefully sending MMS get's implemented shortly.
[Android Apps and Games] chris264:
Thanks for the reply and wish you much continued success. Use the app very much. Nice Greetings

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
not sure about "shortly" the only way I see it happening is if I introduce a "fund raising mms add" in the app :)
[Android Apps and Games] polobunny:
For the sake of curiosity, why is that? Is it not feasible due to the current implementation of MMS in Android?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Keep an eye on if it works with next few releases for me...also do you want the notification "sent" option to be changed to "delivered" ?
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Actually i find it perfect the way it shows now....

And is non intrusive just like I love it so perfect!

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
oh god no, just when I started this app I had a plan to not use mms, and thats why I did the gdrive image sending using standard texts, the main point was so people didn't have to use MMS cause here in the UK I would pay 45p ($0.75) for each message... and it's limited to like 128k and 250x250 res images etc... all stupid restrictions, since starting this thread, I now know that the US has no limiting factors and mms is cheap if not free. Same for many parts of europe.. the problem as is stands is that to develop and test such a feature, (since mms cannot be simulated on an emulator or with adb am intents) is that it would cost me $1 for 2 messages. While developing simple sms I must have sent 6,000 sms's ... although I would not need to do the same number for mms, I'm beyond being able to spend any money on this app.. Few people say they will donate but not sure I want that tbh, I dont want features paid by a few... just dont sit well with me :)

So thats it, in short'ish

Oh and it's not the easiest thing to implement either ! I do plan to do it now, just have to see if this app can make any money 1st
[Android Apps and Games] polobunny:
Alright. I'm surprised and saddened to hear that. Here MMS is pretty much always included with plans.

Guess that's the good side of things, we only have 2 weeks of paid vacation when starting a job, I believe you guys have 4... :P
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Is now a good time to jump in and tell you that here in Denmark we have 6 weeks of paid vacation each year, also majority of carrier plans are unlimited talk, free sms/mms and between 5GB to 200GB data depending on carrier plan.

Also standard internet for our home connections are 20mbit to 100mbit at a price between £15 to £30 a month:D

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Actually i just did some more testing and it does look weird that when sending a text to myself it says send in the message I send and in the message I received it says received.

So it should say received in the message I send so I guess it should be changed like you suggest..:)

Sorry, of course I mean it should say delivered....

Og course only if it actually is told the message is delivered. Pointless of course if it's just a generic message and it doesn't actually mean it received confirmation from network that message were delivered.

Also when I receive a reply back from the person I text it says received under their message? I sort of know that I received it so kinda pointless info to tell the user that the text received is received :D

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Denmark ? 200GB on a mobile plan ? £30 of 100mbit ?

£26 for unlim min/sms but 2GB data, 45p per mms or 35p, either way expensive, my 50mbit costs me (with landline) £49 I think...

Oh and I was on about the "notification, notification" not the status word under a msg, you know in Settings > UI, show sent notification, changing that to received
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Well to be excact using google currency exchange I pay 17,04 GBP a month for unlimited talk, text and mms with 6GB data (with 200GB it would be 34,14 GBP to be excact)

My landline is a 50mbit/50mbit (no data limit) and thats garrantiet 50mbit up and down so not "up to 50mbit" and I pay 16,26 GBP a month for that...

What I mean with the notification which I didnt notice before is.

When I send a message now, it will say sending and then sent under my own message (it should be sending/sent/delivered) but only say delivered if app actually get notification from network and network signals back that message have been recieved by recieptant. Now it just says "sending and then sent"

Whats completely off is that when I recieve a reply from someone it will say "Delivered" right under their message. I mean of course their message was delivered otherwise I wouldn't be reading it;)

Hope that makes sense....

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Well that depends on if the notification tells you it was send or the notification actually only shows when a reply from network is recieved that it was recieved.

Anyway I hate notifications about sent and delivered text messages in the notification center. Thats why I like then non intrisuve inside the app under each message I sent insted just like Textra which shows sending... sent.. Delivered... right under my own message every time I sent a text message or mms.

Nothing should be shown under replies back from people who write to me except timestamp
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Right now I get you, yeah, ok will fix and maybe release, cause I just put "Move To.." in the action popup for conversations :)
[Android Apps and Games] polobunny:
I don't even doubt you, North America and Canada more specifically has it pretty bad. I got decent internet though. :)
[Android Apps and Games] :
Thanks for such a great SMS replacement.

I notice few issues so far:

1) Pressing Menu softkey/button does not open up the settings page (slide in from the right), this is more of an enhancement/request though ;)

2) when there are multiple new SMS, it has shown multiple notification on my statusbar, in fact I suggest only one notification icon is needed, what do you think?

3) I've sent myself a test SMS, I sent to my local number (without country code) say 012345678, but incoming SMS is

with

country code +6012345678, in SmartMessenger Inbox I see two threads, one is 012345678 and another is +6012345678. Maybe both of them can be combined? Just my 2cent ;)

Overall an innovative and beautiful app. Well done mate! :D
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
0.01.06b still show delivery messages wrong inside messages. Just saying as I don't know if that is part of the 0.01.06b fixes

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Would it be possible for you to post a screenshot to the G+ group ? So I can see if it's lack of supporting dimensions or maybe even a bug ? cheers
[Android Apps and Games] Neefy:
I would like to share, used all SMS apps and none have been good enough for me, willing to give feedback constantly. Just requested access

edit: I would change the icon, the overall design is very good, but the icon doesn't fit that well, cheers
[Android Apps and Games] nitramcek:
Installed and will try it. Looks nice and fresh. I don't use SMS much any more, but still.
[Android Apps and Games] CallumMarks77:
Requested to join the G+, cant wait to try this out and test :)

Thanks for Accepting :), not sure if your planning this but one thing that a be good is a delivery report
[Android Apps and Games] cjd80:
would you consider integrating facebook messenger and google hangouts into your app? it would be cool to have 1 app that, for example, has 3 tabs across the top -- "sms", "facebook", and "hangouts", or, have all the messages in one list with an icon on each indicating what service it is associated with.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I would if I thought that I alone could implement and maintain it with all those variances, as it stands I just want to get to a release state while being the best sms app there is. After that I can look beyond just sms.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Updated and fix compat with swift keybaord

new version on play 0.0.31, should be ok with swift keyboard now. I now see the immense value in including a community that is as diverse as xda at an early state of development. I think many more devs should do this :)
[Android Apps and Games] Penacal:
I will give a try, and congrats for the well elaborated OP, :thumbup:
[Android Apps and Games] nitramcek:
If i set pass and block then i don't get any notification. Your app doesn't give any notification.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
By default no, as it's not ready to be used as a replacement to stock or current sms, hence the early beta rather than release. Notifications are on the list and can be enabled now, but are not by default as to not promote reliance on this app as a primary communication tool :)
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
That looks very promising. Will join the Google Gruop and start testing.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
remember this is early beta, it's more suggestions and what features are missing/wanted etc, along with fixing the bugs that are current :)

Let me know how you get on
[Android Apps and Games] Dri94:
I know you don't use them but could you include mms for us over here in the states? :D
[Android Apps and Games] chiikko561:
I just asked to join Google group... App looks very interesting...

Sent 4rm my Nexus 7 FLO... Only thing missing is O.G. N7's development...
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
Well first problem after starting: It does not load my existing SMS messages.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Does MMS not "cost you lots" and "limit the size" ? I mean whats the real advantage over the Image SMS in SmartMessenger ? I'm interested :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Thats top of the list that I'm working on, this is early beta, read the 1st 3 posts, SmartMessenger doesn't use the standard sms database on the phone... working on importer now, but like I say, this is for early testing, not use :)
[Android Apps and Games] Drhedphuk:
This looks really promising, Iwill head over to G+ and join the beta testing program. I presume all feedback is to be entered on G+?
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
Ah like Textra. Please have in mind that if you do not use the standard SMS database, that Badge notifications in launchers like Nova, Apex, etc will not work. This is one of the reason i am not using Textra, which also uses an optimized separate database.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Hmmm, interesting, well there is a good reason for not using the standard database, and thats the use of "SmartMessages" yet to be enabled, these are a little different to the norm and cannot be stored in a standard way :(
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
1) ok, gone 1 better for you, hardware menu key is configurable in Settings > UI (default is toggle slider) also Settings and New Message settings for it (done now..available in next release)

2) Problem is a notification needs an entry for the status bar...

3) hmmm will look into that...wasn't aware
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ok, so what should happen is....--> you press send (waiting) system sees it and it enters the queue (sending) the send finishes (sent) a delivery receipt is received (delivered) -->

Gimme a run down of what you see
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Like i said in post 376 :)

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ah ok, just woke up and need more coffee, so just sending and sent, so looks as if there is no delivered receipt. Will have a look see what I changed :)

oh balls, I just found a mistake, that means it may "never" have worked in the 1st place!
[Android Apps and Games] happiboi:
The app sounds very promising~! I've just requested to be part of G+ group. Can't wait to give this app a whirl ;)
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Yeah and it says "Delivered" under replies that you recieve. Which it shouldn't, there is no point......
[Android Apps and Games] vali_ics:
Item don't find on play store.. I'm in the group maybe I need to wait a bit more..
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
dam, I have a version control problem with my dev environment, I am 100% positive I made a change yesterday and pushed to play, it included that status on incoming messages, now seems to have reverted... oh well... pushing it again :)
[Android Apps and Games] sha_tan:
+1. Awesome app. But a bit difficult for me to read texts from a normal distance (I have a Moto Razr, res: 540 x 960).
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
If you need help testing mms without it costing you an arm and a leg i can help you test it as much as you want.

Just send the apk directly to me so we don't have to wait for play store to process it every time

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I think you're the 3rd person to mention fonts, with that in mind I have just scribbled a note at the side "setting for global font adjustment" :)

Maybe in the next version :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
that dont really work... I cannot remote debug your phone... in short, something that takes 10 minutes would take 10 weeks :) nice to offer though

explanation: when debugging you step through code on a live device while it's actually doing something... looking around an playing with stuff.. if that turned into a "do/alter something" send apk, wait for install, get a log, look at log, implement adjustment...repeat.... I actually think the ratio would be more like 10 minutes = 20+ weeks
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
10 weeks is better than 20;)

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well at the moment, my plan was to implement ads to generate an mms fund, but not sure how long that would take tbh, cause there are not many users... so it always results in me having to release it to the public, then try to generate ad revenue ... I'm still thinking about what to do tbh
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
Think that will take long as hell. But I have no is how much revenue ads could bring in. Why not ads and a donation button or put the app up for sale in play store? I'll happily pay, but just remember to clearly state in description that mms is currently not supported so there will be no misunderstandings. Because mms is properly something most people expect to be as a must in a sms app.

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
not in the UK they don't expect it ;)

But yes, well, I'm toying with 1 version, with iap to support development... so maybe like "remove ads" is an in-app-purchase, tbh if all current testers/installs purchased the ad removal at maybe $0.99 it still would not cover the costs of mms dev.
[Android Apps and Games] thyttel:
So make it 2 or 3 dollars. Is still peanuts. Plus add a donation button, I'll happily chip in and I'm sure others will too. Well I hope!

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