yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] drewski_1:
If you install a new GApps package it will install into /system/app overwriting the old app and you won't have a duplicate

He's talking about if you update a system app via Play Store. Then you will have 2 copies. The original in /system/app and the update in /data/app That is how you can "Uninstall Updates" in Settings->Apps for System Apps that have received Play Store updates.

You can get rid of the duplicate by integrating into system like the person 2 posts above suggested.

Right now on my phone I have 2 copies of Hangouts, Google Play Services, and Terminal Emulator (installed as system app by my ROM) which were updated by the Play Store after I flashed the ROM & GApps.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] bray424:
Tell you what, when your phone gets the Gmail 4.7 thats rolling out, you tell me what version of Gmail is in your /system/app directory (assuming your file browser of choice lets you see file properties), and if there's a file called "com.google.android.gm-1.apk" in your /data/app/ directory, because if you're right, there wont be.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] paychex:
no. When you update a system app it does not install the new version in /data. it updates the system app on /system
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Nephilim:
Tell you what, there is a difference between an update and a second app, if that was an actual second app that could run on it's own then you would not be missing things such as gmail, music, camera etc when you try to flash a rom update without flashing gapps along with it. This is why when people don't want to keep flashing gapps they have to install all those apps that are included in gapps manually from the playstore in order to keep them upon each rom update. (which in turn wastes internal memory space)

Side note, I like how this was the only thing out of my post that you could debate. ;)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] paychex:
Always wondered (well ignored) what that function did. good to know
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] el_smurfo:
Not a fight I'd want to enter, but my phone has always duplicated gapps in system with a -1 or -2 file in data. Didn't think the play store could write to system, so it did that...problem has been mostly solved by 0 day gapps, but I just use the core apps and install most from store for easy upgrading.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Nephilim:
As I said in the quoted comment, there is a difference between an update file and an app, if all updates were the exact same file then the 4.4.2 update that pushed a few days ago for those that already had 4.4.1 it would have been way more than a 1mb file. Try using gmail without flashing gapps after your next rom update and tell me if that data/app file helps you. You will be missing gmail and either have to flash gapps or install gmail manually from the play store. I am not trying to tell people what to do, all I am trying to do is get it across peoples minds that you waste internal memory space when putting apps in data/app rather than flashing gapps to system/app, there are positives and negatives with both, when flashing gapps you have to reflash everytime but save internal memory space, when installing from play store you don't have to keep flashing gapps but use up room on the internal memory you don't need to waste. That's all, I don't know why people try to contest this. Especially with half the facts. (not talking to you)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] bray424:
When it comes to the finite amount of space on an android device, no there isn't. If you have a 5mb gmail apk in your system partition and a newer 5mb gmail apk on your data partition, that's a total of 10mb of gmail apks you're using on your phone for a 5mb app. I never said installing a gapps package would cause you to have two concurrent copies of the same app show up in your app drawer, I just said that you would have two apks on your phone; one on the system partition and one on data, which, unless you flash every gapps package that comes out and never update any system app via Play Store, is true.

As for debating other parts of your post, I already stated my opinions on using the system partition for sound files and other non-google apps, so nitpicking any of your response in that matter would just be arguing for the sake of arguing, which is how threads get locked.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] PastaBatman:
Camera storage to external SD card

Hey guys.. sorry to be asking this. Is there an ability to save images from the Camera to external storage? Or are we stuck with internal because the Nexus 5 is? The setting isn't where it was in 4.3.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] pu3cyg:
at least in OmniRom 4.4.1 I still have those apps in both system/app and data/app.

and if you flash a rom, you would need to flash gapps again IF your rom doesn't have the 70-gapps.sh in addon.d folder (see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1617356).
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Nephilim:
Eh, not going to continue this circular unending argument. :/
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] drc13:
4.4.2 images are up! :)

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...leased-factory-images-for-nexus-4-5-7-and-10/
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] provolinoo:
[MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION] did you notice latest Google Play Edition images have no more gallery app installed and use g+ photo as default?

Since we want to follow Google Experience we should remove gallery and keep g+ variant only

Also we should remove messages app since in stock 4.4 Hangouts is the only app for sms in Nexus

Of course I know gallery or messages are not apps included in GApps package but in the ROM itself, but I suggest to add some lines inside the installation script to remove them as redundant apps in the same way for example the script already does for Calendar.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] drewski_1:
The "Updates" in /data/app are standalone.

Just to be sure I added ".bak" to the Hangouts & Terminal Emulator APK's in /system/app and rebooted. The new apps in /data/app work just fine on their own.

So the Google Play Store isn't doing some kind of incremental update. At least for the ones I have duplicates in /data/app for

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It looks to be dependent on your camera app. I have a Moto-X camera app that allows selection of Internal vs. External storage.

Probably the Nexus cameras don't have this option since Google doesn't put SD Card slots in Nexus devices.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Hate to break up the drama here, but the 4.4.2 factory images are now available: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] bray424:
Look at it like this: say your data partition is 100mb and your system partition is 10mb. You have 110mb of room. Google App v1 takes up 1mb, and Google App v2 takes up 1mb. If you flash gapps and put Google App v1 on your system partition, and then Play Store updates it to v2, you're now taking 1mb out of each partition, giving you 108mb free space, 99mb on data and 9mb on system. If you don't flash gapps and don't have Google App v1 on your system partition and just install v2 from the Play Store, you have 109mb free, 99mb on data and 10mb on system.

My Nexus 5 has a fairly roomy 1gb system partition, but my last phone's system partition was only ~400mb, and the OS itself took up more than half of that, so there were a number of times I was unable to flash some of the bigger mods simply because I didn't have the room on my system partition. However, I can't remember a single time I came anywhere close to filling up my data partition. So if I can choose between putting an app on data where it takes up 1% of that partitions capacity, or putting it on the system partition where that same apk is going to take up 10% of that partitions capacity (while also possible taking that same 1% of my data partition if the app ever gets updated), I'm going to take the first option every time.

And for the sake of not spreading false information, while we may have different ideas on how to optimally use the system partition, can we at least agree that if you flash a gapps package and one of those apps gets updated from the Play Store, you will still have the older version you flashed on your system partition, along with the newer one on the data partition? Again, I'm not saying you'll have 2 Gmails showing up in your app drawer, just that you'll have the Gmail 4.6 apk on your system partition and Gmail 4.7 apk on your data partition.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] km00000:
So I am on CM11 on a d2spr (Sprint GS3). I have Google GApps installed but want ART. Can I just dirty flash PA-GApps or will there be issues?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] IndiaBhai:
Hey all, I'm running stock, rooted 4.4.2 on my Nexus 7 2012 (wifi) and I flashed the camera module without flashing the gapps (seeing as they were already bundled with the stock system). For some reason, I no longer have a gallery icon, and the camera app did not install either. When I downloaded a camera app from the play store, it just force closes probably due to the gallery not properly being installed. Is it required that I flash the gapps to get the camera module working, or is something just acting wonky? Thanks :)!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] pbr2:
I have the same device and same experience. I think there's an issue with that module. Leaving it out means you will get to keep your gallery app. Grouper doesn't normally have a camera app, but I thought I used to get one from older versions of this module. Try to search the thread for details. In on tapatalk and can't get any good results from the search function.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Fihlvein:
So is this actually true? I have not tested myself. But if so, the whole idea of full gapps is becoming rather useless, unless one updates new Google apps only by updating the whole GApps here.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Serris:
Yes its true.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] i-Joshua:
Thanks for this gaaps. Excelent job!!!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Fihlvein:
Ah yes indeed, I just confirmed that with the latest Google Maps update. I now got an August version within /system and the December one in /data.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] LeoRex:
Just do a Google for 'how to root a Samsung galaxy stellar' our 'how to load twrp on a stellar' there will be done good sites.

That is, if the sch-i200pp is the same a the sch-i200, without too many changes.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] jsylvia007:
Hey all! I was directed here for the PA GAPPS because I wanted to use ART, and these GAPPS are apparently the gold standard apparently.

My setup is: N5, CM11-nightly (latest), PA Gapps Mini Modular Package, Franco Kernel... I think that's everything.

I flashed everything, which was weird, because for some reason I lost all my widgets (I'm running Apex Launcher, so I didn't think that would happen), but I put them all back without issue.

This morning I decided to switch over to ART. The process seemed to work ok, but then after the "Starting Apps" screen, I was greeted by:

Unfortunately, ConfigUpdater ,has stopped

and then by:

Unfortunately, Google One Time init, has stopped

Now this happens after EVERY reboot. First I see the "Starting Apps" screen (which typically I only saw after the initial reboot after a flash), followed by the above two messages...

Any thoughts on what may be happening?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] android addicts:
Why there's no Android 4.4.2 updated Gapps?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
We follow Google Nexus as our base. What GPe devices use doesn't impact what I'm doing here. Gallery/Camera are installed on Nexus devices with my GApps.

If you're on Stock 4.4.2, why would you flash a 4.4 GApps package?

No Soup for you!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] android addicts:
:crying:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
Announcing Google Stock GApps

ANNOUNCING GOOGLE STOCK GAPPS

This one's another biggie! We are replacing our Full Complete GApps package with a new package called Google Stock. The goal of this package is to deliver the 'Entire' Google experience found on a stock Google Nexus device.

Google Stock GApps Changes (from Full Complete GApps)

Replaces Full Complete GApps

Includes Google Chrome Browser (replaces AOSP Browser)

Removed Google Bookmarks Sync (no longer needed:See above - also causes problems with ART)

Removes AOSP MMS App (Hangouts becomes default MMS)

SunBeam Live Wallpaper Added (from Nexus 5)

20131212 - CHANGE LOG

Core Base updated to 4.4.2-937116 (KOT49H)

Google Search updated to v3.1.24.941712.arm

Google Play Newsstand updated to v3.0.1

Hangouts updated to v2.0.217 (944332-30)

Google Keep updated to v2.1.01

Google Play Books updated to v3.1.17

Google Text-to-Speech updated to v2.4.3.893803

Gmail updated to v4.7 (941620)

Google Play Store updated to v4.5.10

Google Play Music updated to v5.3.1316M.934206

Google Play Movies updated to v3.0.25

Google Drive updated to v1.2.484.16

YouTube updated to v5.3.24

Google Nexus 4 Camera is now installed on Galaxy Nexus devices

Google Bookmark Sync has been removed from all packages as it casues problems with ART

PicoTTS No longer removed

At this time only the 'Google Stock' package has been updated. Latery today, all the other packages will be updated and the Google Dialer Addon and Google Bookmark Sync Addons will be made available.

PLEASE CHECK THE OP for

Complete Summary of Recent Changes

List of Common Questions and Answers

Package Details and Download links
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] provolinoo:
thanks for explaining :)

I suggested the gallery stuff since blogs said the behaviours Google is having on GPe is just an anticipation of what we'll have on Nexus soon (maybe with the next 4.4.x patch).

What about the messaging app then? It's not present anymore on stock android on my Nexus 5.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] krjadejesus:
If this is Google Stock is this also implying that we will not be having the GEL anymore for Nexus 4?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
Not at all. Our base is always the current flagship device from Google. That means as long as the flagship device has a feature available, we're going to try and deliver that to every device where the hardware will support it.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] SurlyDuff:
Edit: Nevermind, didn't read the full post.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] karanrajpal14:
Google maps updated! :P maintaining gapps is quite taxing! :D

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...servations-right-inside-the-app-apk-download/
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] GatorsUF:
Thanks for maintaining an up to date Gapps package, love the selection and reliability of PA.

Curious if make Photosphere work on various non-Nexus devices is something you guys are involved in or do you leave that up to the Devs of those devices. I have a SGS3 and Photosphere does not work on this phone (unless I use TouchWiz ROMs) and I'd love to have the feature.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
Chill. Why not use the Modular Full package? That's what it's there for.

At this point, we only install the Photosphere Camera/Gallery on the Nexus devices Google intended them for. Not only does this mitigate legal liability, there's a VERY strong likelihood that the Photosphere Camera intended for a Nexus device would not function properly on a non-Nexus device.

To illustrate my point, take a look at the Google Camera and Gallery binaries even for the various Nexus devices. What you'll find is that there are significant, major differences between the camera apps - even for devices from the same manufacturer (ie Nexus 4 and Nexus 5). If Google believes it necessary to have device-specific camera apps, I'm certain there's a solid reason for it.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] F-L-Y-E-R:
Is this update is only to stock package or you'll update the other packages as well? How long then, thanks.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] drewski_1:
he said other packages later today. :good:

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modify the updater script in the Zip. done! :D
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] DutchDogg54:
[MENTION=3500011]cikoleko[/MENTION] - Did you bother to read the post from the OP rolling out this latest update? If so you would have seen this line:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Nephilim:
Stop crying and make your own gapps if you don't like these. The factory images are available to everyone from google so if you don't like these take your complaints somewhere else and build gapps yourself. TKruzze builds these on his freetime for free, he is not obligated to make a special zip just for one ungrateful whiner. Seriously, enough, no one is forcing you to use these.

Sent from my Android 4.4.2 Galaxy Nexus
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] frozen-solid:
And I don't want Apollo because I use Google Music for everything. Clearly since Google Music "replaces" Apollo that can be removed by the GApps package too! Hell, the OP made the decision to keep Pico TTS. Having extra apps on your device you don't need is fine. It doesn't hurt anyone. If it really bothers someone, they can manually remove them or just use the disabled app feature that's built into Android now. That's what I do with Apollo.

All I'm saying is that I don't think the OP thought this through. In every single previous version of GApps it has left AOSP applications alone, and put the Google versions on alongside them. I fully approve of removing things like the Keyboard and Calendar, which are superfluous and redundant. However, Messaging and Browser are not redundant. They are completely separate applications and can be used for completely separate purposes. The AOSP Messaging app from Cyanogenmod has dozens of features that aren't available even on the stock messaging, and aren't available on Hangouts either. There is no reason to remove it. It should be treated like it's own completely independent application.

I shouldn't have to flash the "modular" version, and then the keyboard, camera, and dialer to get the same experience I've gotten from PA GApps in the past.I get that the goal is to make ROMs as close to "Google's vision" as possible, but at what point do you stop removing legitimate features from ROMs simply because they don't mesh with what "Google" wants in stock?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] korkie:
I want to keep the AOSP Browser! How can i change the script that chrome don´t replace it?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Felixpau86:
I dont know if this is me only, but with Google Chrome it keeps crashing. I've frozen and uninstalled the GAPPS one, reinstalled the one from playstore and still crashes then aw snaps when it does decide to not crash.

Any tips or hints?

Using CM11 on a Rogers S4.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Nephilim:
Try out Chrome Beta, I've been using it for like a year now. Its great and you get new features way before regular Chrome gets the updates. ;)

Sent from my Android 4.4.2 Galaxy Nexus
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Felixpau86:
Chrome beta crashes for me too.

God damnit google, I just need a functioning chrome... nothing crashes as bad as chrome on android for me... ERG!!!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] albertusac:
Dude, if now i use the full 26 version, and now i wanna install the mini one, how to do it? Thanks before!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] _artem_:
You better make backups, wipe /system and reflash your ROM
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] _Raziel666:
Thanks to [MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION] for updating this package!

For those who disagree with certain decisions he had to make, you can open the various scripts (installation and .sh in the /addon.d directory) and remove the lines referring to the applications you don't want removed. There are comments of what is being removed everywhere, so you won't have a problem.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
This kind of mentality is what destroys XDA. If this was just about the OP posting a package and having everyone shut up, then he would do this on a website. XDA isn't meant to be a take it or leave it place. It's a place meant for collaboration between users.

While I agree no one should be whining here and complaining, the OP did make a big change, and with every big change, developers need to be prepared for backlash or any critical reception. It's good that people are prepared for wins and congratulations, but it's not always like that. Not every one sees eye to eye, and it's different strokes for different folks. It's the reason why developers listen to feedback, and sometimes change their ways. If everyone just shuts up, then we get a single vision. I'm pretty sure it took enough whining from people to get Apple to do some basic changes like bring in copy and paste, multitasking, etc. Even the most stubborn rock can move a bit.

I get it. Developers are awesome. I appreciate their hard work for free and asking for nothing in return. However, it's the price you pay when you decide to help the community out. Otherwise, like I said, why post on XDA at all? Just use your own blog and be done with it.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] dickenam:
I just DLed the 4.4.2 stock gapps and I want to NOT use the Google keyboard, I prefer the aosp KB. How to edit so it doesn't get replaced? Any help would be appreciated.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] hanschke:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...servations-right-inside-the-app-apk-download/

but thank you for the new release :)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] CrackerTeg:
To find later.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] xanthrax:
Edit/delete your post content only and leave 3 characters

You can't erase the entire post , only moderator can do that

sent from my Darkside of Nexus 4
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Thanks for the new Gapps! Quick question, does this include the updated camera app for the N5?

I know that to get the faster shutter speeds on the N5 its combination of 4.4.1/4.4.2, the new radio and updated camera app, so was just wondering if this now completes that little triangle for me?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] frozen-solid:
It does! It has the awesome spinny HDR+ progress bar too. It's great!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
Yes. All camera binaries have been updated from 4.4.2 (KOT49H) Factory Images.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Awesome! Is it just me or does the GEL update feel faster too? Either way great work for cracking these out so fast!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] emuandco:
Hm, strange. I just updated to OMNI 4.4.2 12.12.2013 (N7000) + PA GAPPS 12.12.2013 Google Stock Pack + SuperSU 1.80 and it seems to skip/delete a bit too much here.

Before 164 apps in start optimize. Now 134 and it does not boot to launcher anymore.

Yes, it is dirty flash. I just formatted /system /cache and dalvik

EDIT: OK... redownloaded them and did a reflash. Now we are @ 158. Seems fine. ART still working on optimization.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Is the modular full package going to be updated for 4.4.2 also? :) If so I'll wait for that because I use AOSP Messaging and Browser.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Hereisphilly:
Damn you Google! The GEL update is totally borked on N10 now. Gone is the nice 8 columns like the stock launcher, and has been replaced with 6 columns with massive padding around the edges!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] bray424:
The banks gapps package http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2012857 linked a few pages back is updated to 4.4.2