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[Android Apps and Games] Steelskinz:
There are plenty of MMS/SMS apps out there on google store. Go elsewhere if you're not happy with what you have here and leave the op alone.. :mad:
[Android Apps and Games] user2k10:
An excellent SMS/MMS app is YAATA here on XDA with a fantastic developer

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54552397

Try it!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Thanks for the defense guys. It's appreciated ...

Thanks for the defense guys. It's appreciated but I'm okay.

There will always be people who are satisfied and there will always be people who are not satisfied. Such is life.
[Android Apps and Games] leo2313:
Sorry for my English! I want very much to thank the developer of this application because it is the only one who could solve my problem I had with a rom cm11 huawei c8813q who carries my huawei cm990 from here in Venezuela and cdma line, since the app messaging of AOSP that comes by default this rom does not split long messages while 8sms has an option to enable this feature.

I was using version 1.48.3 and I understand this app has been tested on android 4.4.2 cm10.2 but works for me well with android 4.4.4 cm11, only twice when I was reading some posts restarted my phone.

I would like to donate but do not have dollars in my bank account, I have no credit card, I have only bolivars which is the currency of my country and I do not know if you can donate as well.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Please email me (at the registered developer email address of 8sms) and I'd be happy to sort this out. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] in my opinion you would get a lot more donations if you switched to material design. The only reason i switched from your app is because the design is not very good (not your fault of course, its google's design)...hope you dont take it the wrong way, its just my opinion on how you could get more donations from your app. I bet a lot of people are in my situation, they like the app a lot but not the design
[Android Apps and Games] jasvncnt1:
Why would you throw out another messaging app in this thread? That's a bit rude in my opinion. I think if there are people that would like to try another messaging app they are more then capable of doing so. This app works great for me. Thanks OP.

---------- Post added at 10:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------

From the app store description I believe the material design update is in the works
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
Yeah i know its in the works, but it has been for quite some time, i was just saying that he wants to make some money with the app(nothing wrong with that) implementing material design as soon as possible would be a wise choice in my opinion. Because the app is flawless except for design!
[Android Apps and Games] jasvncnt1:
Oh i hear ya. I hope my reply to your post didn't come off as negative. That's not how I meant it. I just wasn't sure if people knew it was in the works that's all. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
No worries. I fully agree with you. That's why I'm still working on it ... even though it's taking ages because I have less time to spend on it now.

You're welcome.

Yes, it's about halfway done.

Can't quite promise when it'll be fully done though ... I've already made enough estimates of completion which haven't worked out :)
[Android Apps and Games] migueldbr:
no problem mate!
[Android Apps and Games] joebrit:
No conversations?

I just wondered if there are any common causes for all your messages disappearing and only coming back after a restart?

The error seems to come back from between a few hours to a day.

8sms says "no conversations". It seems as if the android system can't see the database, as titanium can't backup an xml of the messages either.

I've deleted all my mms I had that could have been slowing things down. I tried uninstalling then reinstalling but it only helped for a day or so.

I tried the mark all unread as read app 8sms recommends as well.

I'm on a nexus 5 4.4.4.

I'll try and email a log cat of me opening 8sms next time it happens.

EDIT: After doing a bit of investigation with xprivacy and seeing what was using the message permissions it seems it was another app I was using so it doesn't matter.
[Android Apps and Games] noodles2k:
Would it be possible to have a thread only load the last 30 messages unless you scroll up? Like on iOS?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Oh, good. So I presume it's resolved then.

Uh, yes, should be possible ... but I'm a bit short on time available to do it.
[Android Apps and Games] Icetea:
confusion ;)

i did not understand why the 8sms app is ~3times bigger than the original KK sms app? :confused:

How much spysoft are in there? :cool: ok, ok it’s a joke!:D

It is realy a good job you have done! Thank’s!:good:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
There's a full set of emoji icons in 8sms, at about 3 different pixel densities. That's most of the space.

The stock AOSP KitKat app doesn't need to include emoji icons because they are built into Android.

There is no spyware in 8sms. Feel free to disassemble 8sms with apktool and have a look around. I don't even obfuscate the code because there is nothing to hide.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] Icetea:
Thanks for the explanation!:good: I had forgotten the emoji icons :D Sorry for that!:silly:

ok, no spyware;) Hey i wrote it was a joke and no suspicion against you!:cool:

BTW: I have seen your webpage too. Please stay tuned! Don’t stop developing!!!:D

PS: I think, i never forget the emoji icons again:silly:
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Would you mind sharing how you got MMS over just wifi (no data) working for Sprint & T-Mobile users?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I modifed the mms logic so that if wifi is available, it just goes ahead and does the usual thing (ie. contact the mms server). Everything else is the same.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Material theme for 8sms is here! (BETA)

Hi,

Cross-posted from http://8s.ms/material-theme-for-8sms
[Android Apps and Games] pboggini:
What does this mean? Does this mean that one can send SMS and MMS over WiFi if one has T-Mobile? The only SMS app that has been able to do this in my experience is the stock app on an lg phone with WiFi calling.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Yes. If you have a T-Mobile ROM which has WiFi Calling support, then it *might* work.

I say "might" because the heavy lifting is done by the ROM, not by 8sms, so it's very dependent on the ROM.

Please see:

http://8s.ms/cant-send-or-receive-mms

and look for the section "Wifi calling" about the middle of the page.

Good luck.
[Android Apps and Games] Quolli:
If you could make it work like it does in Textra or QKSMS that would be really fantastic. The current functionality is lacking.

BTW, anyone have any screenshots of the Material Design BETA?
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
I really would not call it Material Design at all. Unless I'm missing something, the only thing different I see if a FAB button, that doesn't make it MD. Sorry if I am missing something....
[Android Apps and Games] Mr.Its:
Here's a few issues when using it on Android 4.2.2.

There's no shadow behind the floating + action button and you get a square holo blue highlighted color when it's held down.

Contact images are too small on a HDPI device when compared to TextSecure for example.

The default text in the search field is gray all of the time. It would look better if it was white or a much lighter gray.

Clickable links and numbers are always holo blue, which looks horrible with the material themes.

Checkboxes don't follow the material themes.

Maybe make use of some material design animations?

Any chance of the new messenger icon as an option?

It's almost as if the material design is faked and you're not using AppCompat 21?

http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/appcompat-v21-material-design-for-pre.html

http://www.epstudiossoftware.com/?p=1709

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...mpat-v721-0-0-change-material-checkbox-colors

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...preferenceactivity-widgets-with-appcompat-v21

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...le-animation-using-support-library-in-android

https://github.com/afollestad/material-dialogs
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted. It will take quite a chunk of work to do though, so I'm not sure if I'll have time for it anytime soon.

Are you using Android 4.x or 5.0? It's not 100% on Android 4.x because the Material theme isn't available and making it fully 100% would require ten times more work.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
There are a few people on this forum who have been obnoxious and verbally abusive in the past. I do not wish to converse with them. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] christianpeso:
On 4.4.2 and I dont see any Material Design anywhere in the beta app. No hamburger menu.Not even a floating "New Message" button. Looks exactly the same as the regular version on the Play Store.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I'm sorry. I should have given a bit more information.

You have to go to the "Appearance" settings and change the theme (and also optionally tick the Floating action button checkbox).
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
I am on Lollipop. This is not MD man. A FAB and some shadows thrown around does not make it material design. You should check out AwSMS or Google Messenger. THOSE are MD.
[Android Apps and Games] Mr.Its:
Yet before I reported a bug and it was you who gave me the obnoxious attitude. You could of thanked me for taking my time to report the issue and giving you all of the information that I could, or you could of simply said that you'd add it to your to do list. Instead what it boiled down to is that you couldn't be bothered to put the time into fixing it because it didn't make you any money and you don't care about up navigation.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54800022#post54800022

Since I wrote the above post you did add adverts and stat tracking to the app, so it's not like I was wrong. You didn't want to release the source because you've been wanting to profit from it. You've made that perfectly clear in your own posts too so there's no reason to be defensive about it. I've also said a few times that I do like 8sms, which is why I tested the material designed version. I just don't agree with what you've said about open source being a bad thing. For you it might be a bad thing, but for everyone else it's a good thing because it's better than a project that's likely to be abandoned in the future, especially if you start to make money on other projects. And I get that you want your time to be worth something, but that's why in your shoes I'd look at creating a premium version of the app just like what most other devs do. You just need to put some bonus features in a premium version and then offer some extras like a few emoji styles and extra themes.

If you do or don't like me I honestly don't really care, but everything I've reported here is a bug and it does need fixing. And you don't even have to acknowledge me, but I would hope for the sake of your fanbase that you don't ignore these problems as I'm only trying to help. I don't care about the adverts or whatever else you do as long as you're working on the project and trying to improve things.

Here's one other problem. The timestamps in the messages are too dark for some material themes. It would look better if they were the same color as the messages.

Make use of AppCompat 21 if you're not already. Seriously, it's super simple to use and it would make everything look so much better. Like it wouldn't take more than 30 minutes to get the action button looking right and even be animated. Checkboxes are also super simple.
[Android Apps and Games] RSindian:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] I'm really liking the material beta so far. A couple of feature requests, can you make the quick compose popup visually styled the same as the app with the chosen material design theme and colors. Lastly the message avatars that don't contain a picture can you change the Samsung style smiley face avatars to be able to add contact initial letters. Keep up the good work. TIA
[Android Apps and Games] MarlinFF:
The material theme looks great! Can you possibly make a 8sms beta group so we can receive faster updates?
[Android Apps and Games] bjorne900:
A material theme with dark background would be great.
[Android Apps and Games] Steelskinz:
agree
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
Oooooo .... Pretty. :)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I did, I based the changes on Google's Messenger.

I also conformed with this:

http://www.google.com/design/spec/layout/metrics-keylines.html#metrics-keylines-baseline-grids

Thanks.

Yes, the quick reply pop-up is something that needs work.

The default avatars will be left for a later time.

Thanks.

I don't have a formal beta group. Instead, there is an RSS feed which you can subscribe to (or use a free rss-to-email service to be notified by email).

Please see http://8s.ms/download for more information.

It's under consideration.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Is that the only thing you did to get it to work?! Bc no other Dev besides Textra can get it to work... and both your app and Textra is closed source lol.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Yes. That is the general idea.

I can't be any more specific because the details depends on the details of their code.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
So then how'd you get it to work? Could you email me possibly?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Uh, sorry, but I don't have that much free time that I should be developing other people's apps for them.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
What do you mean?? I just want to see how it works bc no one other than you gets it lol. I even tried to email the Sprint Android Development team themselves but no answer.
[Android Apps and Games] User_99:
And guess why you do not get an answer? I also 'only' want to see the source code to see how it works and after that I delete all the files ;)
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I came dreadfully close to getting kicked out of college for letting someone "just look" at my source code homework. He turned it in and claimed I took HIS work when we were both questioned.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
I think you kids are misunderstanding... I only want to see the MMS over Wifi not the whole app's code, just strictly the Sprint MMS over wifi code which is probably only a few lines of code. Plus didn't ya momma's teach you not to but into other people's convos?? Damn, your mom's shoulda taught ya'll better, SMH I feel bad!
[Android Apps and Games] User_99:
I am NOT your kid, ok!
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
You got it, kid.
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
Would like to see a lighter blue theme for the final Material release, maybe something closer to the color of the default 8sms icon. The indigo is a little too purple for my liking.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
Awesome. Awesome to the max. Thanks. Your app is one of the best purchases I've made.
[Android Apps and Games] .: SID :.:
I have Android 4.4 in Moto Droid Mini. I've removed messaging apk at all (app + odex) and put 8sms into \system\app\. Everything works fine.

On other side I have Android 4.4.2 in Moto Razr I. Here previous method doesn't work - 8sms hangs when I open sms to read. I've tried to put 8sms app in \system\app\ and \system\priv-app\. Works only if both apps are installed. But in this case 2 apps in main app menu - not perfect.

Any ideas how to get working 8sms on Razr I without standalone app?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
One of my test phones is a Razr i (Android 4.1.2) so I'm quite familiar with it. The short answer is ... you can't. Unfortunately, the Razr i rom put some system code into the stock messaging app so you can't remove or disable it without making all sms apps broken.

Theoretically, if you have root and you know how, you can modify the Razr i stock messaging app and disable the receiver that listens for sms messages. However, that's only theoretical, and it may be impractical or too hard.

Hmmm ... are you sure you have 4.4.2 on the Razr i? On KitKat, stand-alone mode does not apply.
[Android Apps and Games] .: SID :.:
Definitely sure. :) I've installed last OTA update.

So the only way to use 8sms is to keep stock messaging app, isn't it? And if i disable notifications for stock app, i won't have double messages.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
And I'm definitely sure that if you have Android 4.4.x KitKat, stand-alone mode does not make sense.

See: http://8s.ms/default-sms-app

So either I'm mistaken, you're mistaken, or you have a weird ROM :)

Yes, for Android Jelly Bean (4.1.x-4.3.x), that is correct.

Reference: http://8s.ms/duplicate-notifications-or-messages
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
The only other thing I noticed (with Material version) is that the window does not auto-scroll down
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I think its been mentioned, but I would be in favor of a material dark theme.

My only other requests are in the spirit of putting more info on the screen at once:

1) It might be nice to have the message bubbles extend to the margins of the screen rather than truncate at the avatar locations. The CM12 stock app does this.

2) A smaller font would be acceptable for me ... though maybe not for others :)

Thanks for all your work. Still my workhorse messaging app. Runs good on my Sprint GS5 running CM 12.0
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Ah yes, that's a known minor bug. There is already a fix which will be in the next version of 8sms. If you don't wish to wait and want the fix earlier than that, please email me and I can build a temporary version for you.
[Android Apps and Games] cas239:
Email sent to the email that's listed on your website
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Changed my mind about making a one-off development version. I've released a new beta of 8sms instead:

http://8s.ms/download/releases/8sms-1.48.5.apk

Change log at http://8s.ms/changelog

This has the scrolling fix and also adds a few more Material colours (including Blue).

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
I can wait but will also gladly be a beta or even alpha tester if you want one. Nvm just saw I was a post behind. So far so good. Your my herroooo. Blue theme :) for me no difference between blue and light blue
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I'm just following the recommended palettes from here:

http://www.google.com/design/spec/style/color.html#color-color-palette

There is a very small difference between Blue and Light Blue, but maybe it's not enough to be noticeable to some.
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
I don't see much of a difference between them. But that's fine e with me. Just an fyi. I love the blue that you have now. Great work. Keep it up. Alpha/Beta tester offer still stands.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Thanks for the offer. I don't really have a formal alpha/beta program. However, you can be notified of new beta releases by subscribing to the rss feed (and possibly using free web services to convert that into email):

http://8s.ms/download/releases/rss.xml

There is some more information at:

http://8s.ms/download

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] memekmek:
in love with the material theme. I'm using TEAL!
[Android Apps and Games] RSindian:
Can you add user adjustable font size and font weight? TIA
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
After Material in 8sms becomes publicly released. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] DB126:
Material theme with dark background

I know this has been suggested; adding one more plug as I really don't care for the lighter themes (across all applications not just 8sms). Sticking with classic dark for now. Thanks for all you do; 8sms remains my preferred sms app over some tough competitors. Love the straight forward functionality and integration with Pushbullet.
[Android Apps and Games] christianpeso:
I agree with a dark colored material design. Like a grey or black background. Personally do not care for the the dark navy blue background. Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] Spyritus:
Hello,

I'd like to know if there is a way to reduce the size or remove the reply, read and call buttons from a new message notification ?

There's something else, sometimes, a random contact picture appears in a square. I don't know what triggers it, maybe by getting back from settings > appearance. It's rare, and i need to remove 8sms from the recent apps to fix it.

And one last thing i'd like to know, is it planned to add the cm12 messaging icon ? :)

Thanks again for the great app !
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]

Oh how much I love you app. Worth every penny. I know I offered before and you commented but if you ever need help testing or with anything else, feel free to PM me.
[Android Apps and Games] Milkshake Studios:
nice share
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Thanks for the compliment.

Now ...

> I'd like to know if there is a way to reduce the size or remove

> the reply, read and call buttons from a new message notification ?

Sorry, not at the moment.

> There's something else, sometimes, a random contact picture

> appears in a square. I don't know what triggers it,

Ah, yes, this is a recent bug but the fix hasn't been released yet. If it's really bugging you, please email me and I'll provide you with a bugfix.

> And one last thing i'd like to know, is it planned to add the

> cm12 messaging icon ? :)

Uh, not really planned. Not really something I've been thinking about at all.
[Android Apps and Games] Icetea:
Hi,

i am missing a function to send delayed sms using a built-in timer function.:D

will this be possible in the near future? that's all what i miss ;)
[Android Apps and Games] mltan_bdo:
I have donated version of this app on my kitkat rom...now i upgraded to cm12.1, it turns out this app doesbt work .
[Android Apps and Games] Spyritus:
Thanks, it is not bugging me, i just wanted to be sure you knew about it. I can wait for a regular beta version (or a play store release :D )

About the icon, it could be part of the new material design but i understand if you don't wan't to add it.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Sorry, I'd like to do it but I'm pretty constrained for time.

The app doesn't work properly, or the donation isn't remembered? Can you email me (using the registered developer email of 8sms)? I'd be happy to assist, and also refund you if the app truly doesn't work anymore. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] mltan_bdo:
Hi bro, its okay. I enjoy this app since my kitkat version. It only happens when i upgraded to cm12.1 it does'nt work anymore because it only supported kitkat version. [emoji16]
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I have used the app on several versions of Android 5.0 and the app works fine for me across all versions I've tried. Though nothing 5.1 flavored yet.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
8sms works on Lollipop. Please email me so I can debug this further. If it's an incompatibility problem, I'd like to know. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Hi bengtan

Have you disabled donation via the app ?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

In-app donations haven't been disabled so they should still be working.

However, I have heard of cases where people use Xposed or some other privacy-focused software and this stops 8sms from being able to contact Google Play (One user didn't have Google Play installed on his device at all).

If this happens, then in-app donation won't work properly. If you are affected, please email me (using the registered developer email address) and I'll gladly assist you.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Already donated. I cleared app and re-installed and worked! Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Uh, if you re-installed, you would have only reset the "trial" period. If the underlying issue hasn't been fixed, the ads will re-appear again in 14 ish days.
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
but i donated after fresh install...are you saying that I will still get ads ?