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[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I will follow up and try to fix the bugs. Unfortunately, I've gone travelling ...

Hi,

Thanks to everyone of you for trying it out and thanks for the encouragement and feedback!

I acknowledge there may be a few problems on some devices ... it is my first app, after all, and it's not like I have a lot of different phones to test it on :)

I will follow up and try to fix the bugs. Unfortunately, I've gone travelling for a week so I might not be able to do much until a week later.

But I will follow up.

Thank you all!
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Damn!! Well once you get back this app really has a lot of potential... just letting you know! :) don't give up man, this is gonna be awesome, I have a feeling!
[Android Apps and Games] Spacemonkie4207:
Works great on my I9100 using LSS/AOKP Chameleon ROM.

Only thing I would change is the icon.
[Android Apps and Games] cplking:
Does not work on HTC first running sense 4+ rom. Will revert back to stock rom tonight n give it a go.
[Android Apps and Games] Insatiaable:
Working great on SGH-I337 Stock 4.2
[Android Apps and Games] Peacen1k:
FC on startup on i777 running JB 4.1.2

I can get to the conversation if I click on the incoming text notification; however trying to switch to the conversations list causes immediate FC.
[Android Apps and Games] Spacemonkie4207:
Great job, this is the perfect SMS I've been looking for for years.
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Beyond awesome!, just wish mms worked....sigh

Why is the right door always locked?
[Android Apps and Games] zalaros:
I couldn't agree more :)

It works perfectly on my galaxy s3 on 4.1.2 stock rom. Great piece of work my friend, well done ;)
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Any updates Dev?! Would loveeeee for this to be my daily driver messaging app, t is what I've been looking for, for a long time... an AOSP 9like messaging app, but I can use it on a TouchWiz ROM! Just wish MMS worked though :(
[Android Apps and Games] iNeedICS:
You may just wanna wipe app data, that may work :)

Sent from my Note 2, just in case you were Note-icing my sig ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Peacen1k:
Hey bengtan, thanks very much for the app, it's working very well on my phone. There's however that one little issue of a half a second delay in loading individual conversations, I wonder is you had a chance to look into that any further? If not, no biggie, it's pretty small.

One feature that I'd like to request is for the sms messages that are sent to multiple recipients: if you have the "group messaging" unchecked, would it be possible to have the option to record these messages into individual separate conversations for each recipient?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
[MENTION=5102294]Joe0113[/MENTION]: It shouldn't take that long. Does the stock app also take this long?

Are you running Adblock plus or something like that? That has problems with mms.

Or else, can you look in the logs (ie. logcat) and see if anything is suspicious?

It could just be something as straightforward as the mms data connection on Sprint taking a long time to be established (but this is just a wild guess).

Uh, wouldn't it be a better idea to change font size globally in the Android settings?

[MENTION=2567197]SupaKid[/MENTION]: Succinct description noted. Thank you.

[MENTION=4225271]kjaved373[/MENTION]: Does this happen to existing smses, or only new smses?

I presume you have 'Show original timestamp' ticked in the settings?

What about if you long press on a single message and 'View details'? Are the timestamps correct there?

In truth, unfortunately, I haven't had time to look into this :(

I figured since it's a performance related issue, I'd leave it until essentially functionality is all sorted out first.

Hmmm ... not sure if that makes sense in the bigger picture. I'll have to think about it.
[Android Apps and Games] Orphee:
Please keep single SMS grouped when sent to multiple contacts. Very useful to be able to find group sent conversation without need of add every contact each time you want to send message to same persons.

Yes when they reply it arrives in a single separated conversation, but it doesn't matter. The goal is to broadcast a message to all needed contacts.

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Peacen1k:
Well, all I was asking for is an option for this. People respond in their own conversations, so it's useful to do this to maintain continuity (for me).

GO SMS pro has this option. However GO also recognizes contact groups, both google's and its own, so group sending is not a problem.
[Android Apps and Games] Seanbest:
So I noticed lately when trying to send an MMS with 88sms it errors saying cannot send, there are too many unsent MMS messages. Then if I open the stock Samsung messaging app it will send it. Any ideas? TIA
[Android Apps and Games] :
No luck here sending MMS on Sprint (app just enables 3g and tries to send but it never sends and then I have wifi and 3g enabled at the same time and have to reboot phone to turn off 3g)

I wish Sprint MMS was not such a huge issue all the time, only a couple SMS apps besides stock have ever had MMS over Sprint working
[Android Apps and Games] iNeedICS:
The problem with sprint is their limit of picture size I think, and this app doesn't let you change it so yea :/ no luck I guess
[Android Apps and Games] Seanbest:
I have AT&T so list shouldn't matter right? I used the mmsc settings from the APNs, but no change. Suggestions?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I can suggest two things happening here. One is that there is a problem or misconfiguration causing mms messages not be sent. I'll address this below.

The second thing is that ... once there are too many mms messages unsent or pending to be sent, 88sms won't allow you to add any more. This is behaviour inherited from upstream cyanogenmod/android. For now, I won't debate whether this behaviour is a good idea or not because I think the first problem (unable to send mms on Sprint) is the more important to look into.

If you want to clear out the 'queue' of unsent mms messages, you can long press each individual message and delete them.

So, the main issue ...

I vaguely remember some user(s) were successful in sending on Sprint, so there is some hope.

Can you please check your MMSC settings in 88sms look correct?

Can you please check that you are not using AdblockPlus? Apparently that blocks mms sending in some scenarios.

If you think mms picture size is the cause, can you please try sending an mms message with a small picture? Better yet, send an mms which only has text (adding a subject is sufficient to turn a message into mms).

Of course, please let me know the results of your testing.

Unfortunately, I'm not in the USA, nor am I on Sprint, so I cannot debug these reports of issues directly. However, I am more than willing to help but I also need your assistance in testing and debugging.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Details:

MMSC settings are: http://mms.sprintpcs.com, 68.28.31.7, 80

Size of image using to test with: 40kb

Adblock Plus installed?: No

Sprint MMS Works for me with: Stock, Textra, GoSMS

Phone: Rooted/S-Off/Stock HTC One

Modifications other than rooting: None

Interesting things to note:

1. When on wifi the Textra app starts 3g sends the mms then stops 3g

2. When on wifi the stock app does not start 3g but sends over wifi only

3. 88SMS also starts 3g (like Textra) but then 3g is stuck on and mms never sends. only a reboot fixes the stuck 3g (I have seen this behavior in other 3rd party SMS apps that also have issues with Sprint too)

I am using 88SMS anyway because I love the popup notifications more than any other ones I have tried so far so I will continue to use stock SMS app to send MMS but if there is anything I can provide (logcats, screenshots, etc) to help troubleshoot this let me know

:good:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Can you please check that you are not using AdblockPlus? Apparently that blocks mms sending in some scenarios.

Can you please clear out the 'queue' of messages by deleting unsent mms messages? And then try sending a new mms?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Can you disable Textra and GoSMS (and even possibly stock too) and try sending a new mms with 88sms?

I wonder if they are turning off the mms data connection before 88sms gets a chance to send.
[Android Apps and Games] Seanbest:
How exactly do I clear the queue? Not seeing it... Thanks!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[Android Apps and Games] :
I do not have Textra or GoSMS installed anymore I have just used them in the past, I will try disabling stock and report back :)

EDIT: The option to disable the stock SMS client is grayed out but I manually disabled the .apk by renaming it to .apx and restarting and I still was unable to send MMS using 88sms
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
By individually deleting all the unsent or 'failed to send' mms messages.

Thanks for trying this out. Would you be able to get me a logcat during the time when the mms send fails?
[Android Apps and Games] kjaved373:
Unchecking show original timestamp seems to do the trick!

I'm contemplating whether I should go with the stock sms app or this one, but either way I'm glad this is available, exactly what's needed after coming from a nexus phone!

Sent from my HTC One
[Android Apps and Games] :
I just emailed you a logcat to the support email listed on the play store listing page, let me know if there is anything else I can do
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
orthonovum and I have resolved this issue. He re-entered the mmsc settings in 88sms and force-stop-ped and restarted the app. Then, new mms messages were able to be sent.

Not sure which of those two steps was the actual fix, but it's now working for him (or so he tells me in the latest email).
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Can you PLEASEEE post those settings here?! Thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] nicesoni_ash:
So it's basically for touchwiz based roms? I asked this coz I am already on cm10.2 based rom amd the stated features are already in my rom for stock messaging app.

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[Android Apps and Games] :
Sprint only:

http://mms.sprintpcs.com

68.28.31.7

80

You may see these values already in the boxes, just re-enter them. You may have to restart the app after entering before this takes effect

Works for me although I have found FCs when I choose to share an image from the gallery by tapping the share icon and choosing 88sms

---------- Post added at 07:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:50 PM ----------

I am not using touchwiz and it works for me.. sense 5 android 4.1.2 here
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
It's for any Jelly Bean (4.1+) rom.

At the moment, compared to CM 10.2, 88sms has no extra features. However, I do have one or two additions in mind (such as iOS 6 emoji support and theme-ability).

[MENTION=5102294]Joe0113[/MENTION]: After you enter these values (in the 88sms MMSC settings, not the Android access point name settings), make sure you close or force-stop the app and then try with a new mms message. Existing mms messages may not be affected by any change in these values.

[MENTION=2736178]orthonovum[/MENTION]: Can you send me a logcat of the crash please if you have time? Thanks in advance.
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Theming? Sounds awesome... Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] nicesoni_ash:
ok, Thanks for the reply. I would suggest you to have a look at Slim Rom's messaging app, it has some really nice features compared to cm 10.2 messaging app.
[Android Apps and Games] JM4611:
Thanks

Been lookin for this for a long time.. running stock rooted rom, ktoonsez 747 kernel and Phil'z CWM recovery, and this app works great with them - and I don't have to install a ROM.
[Android Apps and Games] perosredo:
MightyText Support

Does this work with MightyText?
[Android Apps and Games] :
I just updated to the latest version this morning and notice it does not crash anymore when sharing an image from the gallery :)

So at this point everything is working perfectly for me, I will let you know if I stumble across anything else. I do have one question. should the MMS images trigger the popup or just a standard system notification?

thanks for the great work! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Piksou:
Hey,

I installed 88sms (weird name btw, pollitically dangerous :confused: ) and I was very happy because I would get on my new S4 using Samsung Rom the 2 things I loved about stock SMS on my previous PA phone:

- Awesome Emoji support

- No stupid SMS limit

:good:

See on my old Note on Samsun ROM, after a long SMS (over 6 msgs) it was autoconverted to MMS. Horrible thing, for many reasons (recipient can be abroad, have an old phone, be in the tube) and no benefit if you have unlimited SMS.

Stock client on CM PA and AOSPA had an option to avoid that.

On 88 out of the box, no conversion AWESOME. :highfive:

Then today I noticed I could not send MMS (for pics) and fixed MMSC.

Alas, I now have a limit at 2 SMS before MMS conversion :crying:

And no option.

Is there a way to disable that ? Is that on your todo list ? Can I put a bounty on it ? :p

I don't want to move to another horrible SMS app when this one is so good :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] Seanbest:
Edit: Nevermind... Privacy mode was enabled blocking the pop-ups. Not sure how that got turned on.
[Android Apps and Games] etheriae:
Great

Great stock sms app replacing :)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
[MENTION=3559700]perosredo[/MENTION]: I don't know because I have never tried MightyText :)

There are no special MightyText hooks in 88sms, but since it has most (all?) of the standard hooks of a stock messaging app, it might just magically work.

Or else, you can use 88sms with the stock messaging app that came with your phone together ... presumably MightyText will work with the stock app then?

[MENTION=2736178]orthonovum[/MENTION]: Thanks for letting me know, and you're welcome.

The quick-reply popups are only available for sms messages, not mms (This is behaviour inherited from cyanogenmod).

> I installed 88sms (weird name btw, pollitically dangerous :confused: )

[MENTION=4518112]Piksou[/MENTION]: Why is 88sms a bad name? I choose 88 because '8' means good luck in chinese. Please tell me so I can decide whether this name issue is important. Thank you.

> Awesome Emoji support

It's not complete yet. I still have to add support for iOS6 emoji.

> Alas, I now have a limit at 2 SMS before MMS conversion :crying:

> Is there a way to disable that ? Is that on your todo list ?

Actually, version 1.04 disables the sms-to-mms conversion because it was causing more trouble than benefit.

If the conversion is still happening for you, then it is a bug and I will fix it.

Firstly, can you please check you are using version 1.04? Can you get me a logcat during when the app starts up? Some configuration values should be printed to the log and I'd like to see what is being reported.

> Can I put a bounty on it ? :p

No bounty required, but you're welcome to donate :) ... once I get approval from PayPal to put a donate button on the website.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Thanks.

[MENTION=665599]zalaros[/MENTION]: Is this issue still happening for you? I had a look into it but couldn't reproduce it on my phone.

Does anyone else see this behaviour please?
[Android Apps and Games] Piksou:
It updated this morning, I'll check. :good: (Edit: it works, no more conversion)

About 88:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)

In Europe, 88 can be associated with Neo-Nazis, Extreme Right, etc. I must say that's the first thing that comes to my mind when I see 88 but maybe that's not the case for everyone. :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Yay.

And in the same article there is this ...

"Number 88 symbolizes fortune and good luck ..."

... which is why I chose it.

Hmmm ... not sure whether I should think about changing the name or not. Changing the name will be a hassle and then I have to get a new domain name and all that stuff.

Maybe if I just change the icon which has '88' and just leave the name as the same ... maybe it won't be as visible?

I wonder if other people have any opinions?
[Android Apps and Games] JohnnyEpic:
I also winced at the 88 until I read up further. It doesn't bother me but again, having to explain it to someone in defense of it may seem redundant later. Hindu's use a reverse nazi symbol as good luck.

I think you should seperate the sms and make the 88 just the brandname tho. Just my opinion.

88. A-D-ATE. Eighty8. Lol

Disclaimer : coffee still brewing.
[Android Apps and Games] Piksou:
And I understand that... Different people in different cultures see different things in symbols. I was just surprised at first and I could have to explain it if someone asked... I don't use the default icon anyway so not very visible for me.
[Android Apps and Games] c00ller:
It's not exactly about the topic, but from a usage perspective, seeing a Message icon in the notification bar with the number "88" only makes me think "88 unread messages". IMO numbers just don't belong in notification icons unless they mean something, else they are misleading...
[Android Apps and Games] iNeedICS:
Why don't we just take one "8" flip it side ways and call it "infinity messaging" it sounds cooler, and slogan "you'll love this app forever " ;)

Sent from my Note 2 just in case you were Note-icing my sig ;)
[Android Apps and Games] JohnnyEpic:
Not sure if he wants to change the name but then he will be able to retain the 8 for good luck also. or one vertical and one horizontal stacked on top each other.
[Android Apps and Games] nyles:
Maybe you can use the Chinese symbol for good luck as the icon?
[Android Apps and Games] Basche:
I have no clue why, but I'm getting the old issue of receiving the same message on multiple pop ups. This was before the new update and is still present after doing the update. Not sure how this came back :(
[Android Apps and Games] iNeedICS:
Uninstall and reinstall?

Sent from my Note 2 just in case you were Note-icing my sig ;)
[Android Apps and Games] zalaros:
Yes it's still happening. The messages are sorted randomly. I'll send you a screenshot on your email ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
[MENTION=4518112]Piksou[/MENTION], c00ller, iNeedICS, JohnnyEpic, nyles and others:

Thanks for your opinions.

Whilst I won't change the package name on Google Play, I think I will change the name from 88sms to something else. Better to change it whilst the app is still young.

Just not sure what to change it to ... but I'll think of something. Thanks for your input.

I changed the notification icon back to stock some time ago. It should no longer be using the '88' icon for new messages ... unless your phone has cached it or something.

Perhaps you are getting duplicated messages sent to you from the network because of reception dropping?

Do you want to check whether you have duplicated 'pop ups' or duplicated messages? There is a difference.

Yes, I got your email. Thanks. I'll look into it when I have time.
[Android Apps and Games] favero_:
Very nice app! I've used the Samsung stock, the slide messenger and the smart messenger, but this nexus feeling is payless! Very cool and clean!

Just one feedback: if it could have the option to schedule a message, it would be perfect..

Thanks!

P.S.: Isn't there a way to change the keyboard to show the enter button instead the emoticons?
[Android Apps and Games] iNeedICS:
It's in settings scroll all the way down :)

Sent from my Note 2 just in case you were Note-icing my sig ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted, but I probably won't have time to do this until much later.

Yes, look in the 88sms settings and toggle 'Soft keyboard type'.
[Android Apps and Games] frozo:
Nice work, great alternative to the stock messaging app.
[Android Apps and Games] iamnotkurtcobain:
Change the icon. It will be better that way.

Edit: just saw it, yes another name would be good too since it's a young app.

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[Android Apps and Games] mehmet184:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] i have a problem.

i am using galaxy mega and i am on stock rom no root.

i am using 88sms and disable deafault sms app.

When I receive a new message; 88sms Deleting messages without reading.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

If you disable the default sms app, then you need to turn on 'Stand-alone' mode in the 88sms settings.
[Android Apps and Games] harysick:
hi bengtan, thanks for the great messaging app :good:

there is a slight problem with emoji, when received emoji from GO SMS Pro. GO SMS Pro has extra emoji (with their plug in), can you add it in the next version?

i took a small sample of Whatsapp, they also have a complete emoji.
[Android Apps and Games] cracks:
niceone! Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] iamnotkurtcobain:
Can you add the hangouts emojis in the next Version? They're pretty and look awesome on 1080p displays..

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[Android Apps and Games] djsb16:
definately switching from gosms to this, and if you add in thememing, then even better
[Android Apps and Games] capikoo:
i am currently on the samsung s4 for sprint and running the tri-force rom. but still unable to send mms with the fix provided but thrue the default app it works fine.

please help
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
You're welcome.

I'm aware of this issue ... it's the so called 'iOS6 emoji' which are missing from Android. I do have plans to add them in, but it's going to take a while because I have to chase down each and every one of them.

It won't get done in the next version. Maybe the one or two after that, hopefully.

Can you point me to this 'hangouts emoji' please? I wasn't aware there were other new ones.

I received your email and have replied. Please follow up there. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] SCDroid:
Great app. Anyway we can get another dark theme without the dark blues in the conversation thread?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Um, yes ... one day ... when I get the time to redo the themeing. I'm just busy at the moment doing other things, sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] CKRevel:
Awesome, just one request

I love this app, just have one request.

Can you add an option to return to the list view automatically upon opening app. When I close the app out, it always re-opens in my last sms thread. It would be nice not to have to back out of the app all the time to get to list view.

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Basche:
I actually like the dark blues :p
[Android Apps and Games] kjaved373:
Only thing I can find that doesn't work is sending mms messages through wifi calling on t-mobile network. It waits until it has signal to send. I guess I can go into the stock messaging app and use it to send so not a deal breaker :)
[Android Apps and Games] CKRevel:
In the list pane, its hard to distinguish separate threads against the dark blue ( separator line is almost the same color as the background). I think a grey separator line would be perfect.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted. Thanks.

Please have a look at http://8s.ms/cant-send-mms and if that doesn't solve your problem, please get me a logcat. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Android app 88sms renamed to 8sms.

Hi all,

My android app 88sms has been renamed to 8sms. More information available at ...

http://8s.ms/88sms-renamed-to-8sms

The website and email address have been changed from 88s.ms to 8s.ms accordingly.

Thanks to everyone who provided feedback on the name change (and also icon).
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

The app 88sms was renamed to 8sms. You might want to update your website. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] JaHIY:
Is it the same as the mms app in CM10.2??:confused:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
It's derived from the mms app of CM 10.1/10.2. However, it's been ported so it can be installed and works on any 4.1+ rom. Then, I've added a few extras too (but all relatively minor so far).
[Android Apps and Games] Piksou:
Nice icon and new domain :good:

Sorry you had to change the name you liked...

Any update on the Paypal account ? :)