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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I think there are some odd things with either kit kat or nex5 when it comes to the LED, will look into it when I have done current updates.

Until that version I had no xxhdpi device, and that was just me altering font and maybe spacing, now I have a device I can sort all the dimensions over time, my version (not released) looks lots better :)
[Android Apps and Games] Jonnyw2k:
Sounds good!

After some playing I fixed the LED, turns out it was Light Flow, although I had disabled it, and removed it from the notification services, it appeared to still be blocking the LED control untill I uninstalled it from the play store.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I know the dev mentioned something on here about him having to do some fixes for kit kat... I still have some strangeness, well, differences between my gnex and nex5 though
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
How to send message from the app? I am not able to figure out.:(

THANKS Button ✌

is there to save Thanks post indeed :D
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Even after watching the videos?
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
Sorry to say but I have not watched the videos.

THANKS Button ✌

is there to save Thanks post indeed :D
[Android Apps and Games] Jonnyw2k:
Another thing I noticed is that from the inbox I can see contact photos but can't from inside the message thread.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
you mean in chat view (threads) the name bar at the top doesn't show an image ?
[Android Apps and Games] Jonnyw2k:
Yeah, so I can see the picture from inbox view, if I click on the message it opens up the thread, where there is no photo, I'll try with other contacts with photos, it was just a quick observation.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
did you read the developer message I pushed to the app ? Says thats what I'm fixing right now :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Hmmm

I maybe changing the theme engine, and thus invalidating all themes. SM has a remote failsafe trigger for me to put all installs in themesafe mode, so if your theme suddenly swaps, thats why... more details shortly
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
RELEASE :*0.04.141

* lots of bug fixes

* new theme attributes added (not really user side relevant atm)

* new default theme added, part of a primary set

Note : a short theme restriction is in place while I fiddle
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Just downloaded the app, which I think is terrific, but I've now deleted your personal SMS about 7 times and it keeps coming back. Not sure what the issue is, but I'm on a Nexus 5 if that's helpful to know.

Thanks for the app, will definitely pass it around and pay for it once the pro version becomes available.
[Android Apps and Games] b1ue:
You can turn the developer messages off in settings if you prefer
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
That's what I did in the end.

Not sure whether anyone has already asked, but is there any chance you could make a DashClock extension? It would be very handy.
[Android Apps and Games] aspen1991:
I've been using the app for a little over a day now and I really dig it.

One thing that doens't work me is when I send a text from my pc using Mightytext, the text doens't shows up in the app, but it does in my oem texting app. Is there anyway I can adress that?

Anyway great app!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
One of the main focuses that I wanted when creating this app was person control and security, for that reason on launch not I or google will have any access direct or indirect to any communications or storage of such. For that reason SM does not use the in-built "content providers" for messages, but rather it's own... so currently that is not possible due to the way SM has been designed (well unless I do a PC/Mac addon for it :) ...not out of the question!)

hope that answers your question ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Request

looking for people to test some mms things shortly, please hit me up on g+ if you are interested and have free mms with your contracts (because it costs me £0.35/$0.71 every mms I send, and I've already attempted sends on maybe a few hundred!)

will be on hangouts as would need you to grab apk independent of google play... this may also be a slow process :)

ADB/logcat knowledge a big plus :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah sorry, they are less personal messages, but more erm... notice board synced messages, so yeah, bit misleading, but they are only for the beta releases...and yes you can turn them off in settings
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
No problem at all and I did eventually turn it off last night. Thanks again for the great app and please do think about adding an extension for DashClock if/when you can.
[Android Apps and Games] aspen1991:
Yeah thanks for clearing that out! Keep up with the good work man :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You have me thinking now, I want to do a little pc/mac java program to do it, that also adopts the theme currently in use on the phone :)

Well if SmartMessenger takes of, gonna put that high on the list tbh :)
[Android Apps and Games] embaby:
loving the app so far! cant wait for the themes to come back. thanks for all the hard work :good:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Themes are back... Why version u on?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
there is also a new theme that I'm setting as default, called primary blue....let me know if your having problems and make sure your on the latest version (worried now that some people think that there are no themes) :)
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
I've got themes. Might be worth pointing out that, to get to themes, one first must hit the overflow menu at top right, select settings/tools, then hit the overflow menu at top right again.

Btw: there are two subscription options, one is annual and the other is...permanent? Or does it also unlock premium features for a limited time?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dont worry about them at the moment, although the items are valid and final, the app is totally unlocked currently, while in open beta, but if you want to support development yes there are 2 options

1. Dev Support Subscription (1 year)

This just gives you anything and everything the app has and will ever have while the subscription is valid, but it also allows me to have trial periods that are free of all the present and future premium features and content, also means that when play introduce partial refunds, a user can request a refund after the trial period and it can be done quite easy (if some1 changes their mind etc)

2. Is the Single Purchase of everything that is there currently, but only the base themes (cause I need small but continuous flow of income to support what I hope will be a large theme library along with user content also, but this costs me, as in servers and admin etc)

But like I say, Open Beta, so wouldn't worry too much at this time, unless you want to support development, as I have just started implementing MMS, but have to stop start cause of the extreme costs :(
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dropping 2.3.x support

Not enough people using it, few too many problems, way too much limitation on what can be done
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
I've been mentioning SM in a few places, hopefully more people will start using it because it's really, really great. Fingers crossed.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no I'm going to keep developing it, cause I have a kitkat phone and dont like stock cyanogen and think goSms and chomp are too bloated ... I mean I'm not going to support gingerbread, only ICS and above from the next release.... oh and thanks for mentioning it :) It does need throwing into the mix more, for more testers and more important "why people" choose not to use it over "X"... cause I like challenges
[Android Apps and Games] draskome:
Would really want to try it out, but just can't install it (and I'm not an noob).

- You haven't provided direct link here, in this thread

- Searching through Play store doesn't list your app for me

- Play store link at Google+ page lead me to Play store page, but just to find out that my device is not compatible.

So, I have CM 10.1 (based on JB 4.22) running on Samsung Galaxy S plus. I'm situated in Montenegro, and we are not able to buy apps at Play store (yes, that's a sad fact:))

Any solutions?

Sent from my GT-I9001
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
there is a direct link to the play store listing right at the top of the 1st post lol... not much else I can really do if that doesn't work... your device shows as "SamsungGalaxy S Plus– GT-I9001" and is compatible and supported in my app dev console!
[Android Apps and Games] FuMMoD:
I volunteer
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
that was a day or so ago, mms send it working, need another few tests so maybe not in the next version but the one after, I will open up the mms test/settings and sending for all to try and report back... but thanks for the offer
[Android Apps and Games] draskome:
Actually, it's not phone that is not compatible, but it looks to me that my location is an isssue , since you implemented payment related permission. It is kinda strange and unusual , because this is the first free app that I cannot download and try.

It's up to you, but unabling potential users to try and test app is not expected :-\

Is it possible to get direct (non - playstore) link?

Best regards, Drasko

Sent from my GT-I9001
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
very odd, it does have the billing api in there for future use of in-app billing, but as it is now, it's totally free and fully unlocked so that is quite odd. Given the rate that I distribute builds and fixes it really not practical for me to keep a direct file link up-to-date so no, sorry. There is an option though, if you join the beta group when I come to do small focused testing on occasion I will post direct file links as play takes too long to update... so there is that as an option if you want... also being part of the beta may enable the market maybe ? not sure but worth a shot

The other option is to wait till the "open beta" finishes and it's fully released, then the version updates will maybe be weekly, and it will be easier for me to keep a file up-to-date :)
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
App crashes in HALO. Too bad :( It starts and freezes.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
in what ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.04.152 (Beta Group)

* Lots of bug fixes

* New Global Font Sizes exposed, either Qualifier control or global multiplier or both :)

* New theme system implemented for storage and resource linking, themes cannot be applied from online resource, they must be downloaded, this is for a coming release with backgrounds.

* Themes moved out of settings and tools to main side panel, new option menu for global dimension overrides added but not active

* Failsafe theme hardcoded, if there are 3 crashes due to visual aspect, it will revert to a safe theme.

* Probably more things that I'm forgetting
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
Paranoid android custom rom, HALO feature, it launches apps in floating window mode. It freezes. And also smileys take too long to opet on my n4. Otherwise it's the best mms app i've ever stumbled across.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
hit me up about the HALO thing in a few days, will fix it (already had to tweak some things for samsung multiwindow)... yes there is a bug with smileys, looking at it now :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Do you get the option to send a report with the HALO crash / hang ?
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
Give me a few moments :) Ill check :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Request

If you are in the beta group, can you have a look at the font size adjustments and set the levels that you find good for your screen, then post the settings and your screen stats here, so I can consider those settings as the defaults...thanks to anyone who does this
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
The freeze is gone and smileys open instantly in the last version. Please note that i deleted this app 4-5 days ago. Don't know what you did in the meantime but it fixed it for my n4. Thank you, gonna use this as my default launcher now. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D Also default fonts for my n4 are perfect in both halo and normal mode.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dont be too sure about the emoticon thing, I'm still chasing a speed bug that I experience even on nexus 5... it's not constant and only happens 1/30 or so, but still there ... and yes, always keep up to date with versions, sometimes I have version daily or even more frequent.. also dont forget this is still open beta, there will be bugs!
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
Yeah but all the themes crash when trying to enter settings after setting the theme... :(
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
you will need the latest version, 152...
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
Not getting the update through play store :/
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
It's for the Beta Group only for now.
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
I am in the beta, just joined today, didn't see it :)
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
Sorry i was wrong, the HALO freeze isn't fixed. It opens normally in a floating window but when i click on conversation it only shows the background. No crash.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
make sure you are on version 152 and have "joined" the beta through the instructions on the G+ beta group "about" box

Oh and I'm looking at installing paranoid android on galaxy s i9000 to have a look
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ok, care to guide me though what I have to do (hoops to jump though) to ge SM to open in a window with PA + HALO 4.3.1 Rom ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Latest

fyi 154 is the latest beta release
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
After installing PA you have to enable HALO, after you've done that just download HALO))) from the play store, add smart messenger in the app, then try openning it in HALO through the bubble by sliding right or left on the bubble(right if its on the left side on the screen and left if its on the other) :) I guess this is about it. When i try to enter a conversation from there it shows the background only. And i downloaded the latest version, themes don't work, and one more bug, i deleted my stock mms app and i was sending and receiving sms through smart messenger, when i tried to import sms after clearing data and reinstalling app it imported only the messages i sent through smart messenger. Don't know if it's actually a bug but i know there are many people willing to use this app instead of stock mms and will do the same thing i did, delete stock mms. Maybe you should make it save the received sms too somewhere :)

Also where do i get read reports for sms? Can't seem to get it to work... :/
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Ok will give this a try tomorrow and see exactly why it's crashing, it maybe that it's just the way this HALO thing works that just wont work with SM, SM can do windowed modes, but when it is in control, not something else. Least I can do will be to tell you the cause of the crash I would think.

Ha, I disabled them again, they are enable again now, but there was an odd bug that messed the format and some text states got lost, latest version will have a few themes enabled now I think.

Not a bug at all, SM does not use any external data, import is only to import the stock messages, if you want backup and restore, use SmartMessengers, it's faster, safer and can also restore security and all settings! Backs up to your google drive! again, import is ONLY for importing stock messages, nothing else!

It's enabled in settings but no receipts showing ? as in the status of a message saying "delivered" ?
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
It only shows sent, thanks for clarifying the rest of the questions.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Incoming theme test

Doing a new theming spec along with user adjustable/exposed settings that will allow you to do this.... this test theme should be available to in online themes within a day I would think
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.04.160

* Fixed Move To which apparently nobody uses cause it was not mentioned

* Included an open test of the image based theme (as show in post before this) and added a settings in globals where it expects you to set your device performance, as I'm going to make themes conditional and reactive to a devices performance. This is active at the moment when you rotate the device with the image based theme, it will either "do it instant (nexus 5)" "fill the screen with a gradient and blend the image in when loaded (galaxy nexus level)"

* other fixes
[Android Apps and Games] pejakovic1:
In which performance group is n4? :) The background theme works flawlessly for me :)
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Quick question: Smart Messenger is my default SMS app and I've set processing to "Process and Block." However, the app I used before I found yours is also receiving texts, so what setting should I use in processing so that only Smart Messenger handles my texts?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well it would be an 8, and at that number currently there is only a difference in the way SM deals with themes at 5 I think, just cause of some fill rate issues.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
wow, well, process and block should do it :) ok, let me look into it... confirm you are using latest version for me
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
sorry ... it depends on what that app was/is some of them cant be blocked cause the fight to sit at the top of the sms priorities table in the os, chomp,go etc
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
The app is Textra. To answer your previous question: I do have the latest version of Smart Messenger installed and it's my default. I've tested this the other way around and, if I set Textra as the default SMS app, I only get texts there so, presumably, it should work the same way when Smart Messenger is set as default. Can anything be done?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
What version of Android... And if textra sets it's priority for the sms filter to be ridiculously high (like they all try to) besides disabling textra or me joining the priority fight (which I don't intend to do with sm) not much.. If you use kitkat then all is well :)
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
I'm on a Nexus 5 with KitKat.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Lol... Arse... OK, well I will have a look at it... I think it could be because kitkat prevents blocking... But if that's the case, I could do an alternate.. Delete from content.. I will download textra and have a look.. Gonna start putting in some heavy Polish for visuals that actually use the nexus 5 power.. With the image based themes :) could u possibly send me an email to the Dev contact account on play store... Just about to have early night.. But will look at this 1st thing in morning
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Heh. Aye, will email you. No rush, enjoy your night!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
OK as suspect, no kitkat app can abort any broadcasts, so even though the sms does not get save to the android content provider, any app that saves independent can still listen and know when an sms has arrived. The only think I can do here, is suggest to you to uninstall the app (textra) or disable it, see SM cause I'm considerate has a nice little switch in there to disable itself entirely... if only others did they eh :)

Next release I will take out that processing option if using kitkat so there is no confusion :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.05.164

*added info button to message/chat view popup (shows boring stuff)

*added better database handling for multitask and fast r/w (fixes a few reported crashes)

*change the way edit mode selection works in chat view (bug triggering keyboard fixed)

*fixed a bug that could potentially stop snapshot view (backup) from appearing

*altered settings to accommodate kitkat better
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
I'd have done it already if it weren't for the MMS issue. Textra notifying me as well is not a big deal, so I'll keep Smart Messenger as the default app 'cause it's just too good not to. Appreciate you looking into this.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well you should be happy to know I'm looking at MMS now, and the send tests that people have done in my beta group are all good. Just a matter of integrating it with the data structure in SM.. there will be an open MMS send test soon... will post more info then :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Question to the U.S.:

Whats the most useful and used aspect about MMS ?

1 (Send Pictures)

2 (Group messages)

3 (Send Audio)

Something else ?﻿

Thanks in advance for any opinions
[Android Apps and Games] zelendel:
For me it is a combo if Pictures and video as My sons go to school on the other side of the country. This is our major communication type.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
OK, I ask cause I'm currently implementing MMS, but there are a few major hurdles.. So opinions are very valued so that I can prioritize. Out of interest, whats the main reason you would use MMS over the SMS/File sending in smart messenger already? As there are no limits to the google drive sending.. just interested.
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
To be honest, can't say I use MMS, haven't used it for years, only due to being able to send files by email, apps like whatsapp etc. But still worth having for those that do so rely on it.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Have you used the google drive file sending in SM yet ?
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
You know what, I completely forgot about the Google Drive integration. My bad. Sending a file that way, then, would create a link rather than actually sending the content, right? And the person at the other end would have to click on the link to gain access - but that person would only have access to that specific content, not to everything else in my Drive, I assume. I'm actually OK getting around the MMS issue by doing that, not too sure people at the other end want to get a link rather than an attachment. I'm thinking of the less tech savvy when I say that because we all know some of those, eh? Heh! But it's just a matter of getting used to it, really.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sending a physical file through SMS/file or image > uploads file to gdrive > sends sms with link (automatically shows as attachment if using smart messenger)

the file is only accessible with that link, no other content is accessible

Currently implementing MMS now, but just wanted a discussion on user views and use case, as I may have to re-design a few things :)
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
I think Drive will work just fine but, if it helps, I tend to send videos.
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Not yet but will give it a go. Thanks.

When I tried to run a backup of my messages is there anyway of getting a status to show how complete it is as I wasn't sure if it was actually running/working.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
sorry about that, at the moment it only shows 3 states as a series of notifications.... I will be implementing a remote view in the notification area that will have a progress bar, also just in the middle of making some quite huge changes to all of the google drive and service task queue system... so odds are this will all change for the better quite soon :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Ok not a problem, I'll look forward to the changes, and this app is coming along nicely.

Also, just popped in my head, when a message shows in the drop down list, and it had the options to reply, read etc is it possible to get one to delete the message?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
it is indeed, good idea, but you may have to remind me in a few days, cause I do think that I will have to iconize them a bit more and also allow for options to enable disable functions on the notifications as they will become too cluttered :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
The idea of simple icons sounds a better idea, kind of like in Gmail app and other apps that use icons