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[Android Apps and Games] HiDEFF:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]

I know you stated that some ROM require mobile data to be enabled at all times but what about those that don't? Would you be able to implement this feature?

I'm currently using Textra only for the "Activiate Mobile Data" feature. This basically allows me to have mobile data off and automatically have it turn on when I'm sending/receiving MMS.

In case I didn't explain the feature clearly, this is what the Textra reads:

"Activate Mobile Data - Set this to automatically activate mobile data when sending or receiving an MMS."

Nonetheless, and this goes without saying, but you have a great app!
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
Once 8sms is installed, where is it stored on the device? It's not in \system\app.
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
Only apps installed with your ROM are placed in /system/app/ and since 8sms is not a system app you won't find it there. You should find 8sms installed with the rest of the apps downloaded from the Play Store in /data/app/
[Android Apps and Games] yurividal:
Ok, i have emailed you thru xda email system. If for any reason you dont get it, let me know and i will send a new email
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Thanks,

I think there is some misunderstanding here.

If your phone doesn't require mobile data for mms to be available, then mms is always available. Mobile data and mms becomes independent.

There is no need for 8sms to turn on mobile data (which is a bad idea, btw, because it can cost users money) at all.

If you want to turn on mobile data ... why not just turn it on yourself?
[Android Apps and Games] HiDEFF:
I believe there is a misunderstanding but I won't hijack the thread. I did attach an image of Textra's feature, maybe that will clear things up.

In short, Mobile Data is necessary to receive MMS. I leave data off just to conserve some battery.

Just thought this feature would be a great addition to your app. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
bengtan, if you could make 8sms as themeable as this AOSP MMS app, 8sms would be the *perfect* solution for me!
[Android Apps and Games] JonathanBarca10:
Just discovered this and i absolutely love it! Very quick, looks clean, and i love the reply, read, and call options from the status bar. Just plain works!
[Android Apps and Games] gramenz:
Question...I have a Galaxy S4 and have a friend that has a Galaxy S4. Both have 8SMS Installed with Emoji's enabled. I can get her emojis fine, but mine come through as *?**? on hers. Any ideas why this is happening?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I don't mind discussing this a bit, because it will be useful for future readers who come across it.

> In short, Mobile Data is necessary to receive MMS

This is an easily misunderstood point. Let me see if I can clarify.

Mms uses the phone's mobile data connection for communication with the MMS server. However, since most carriers bill for mms and mobile broadband/Internet separately (with mobile broadband/Internet being significantly more expensive), they can be thought of as two things: "mms" (for mms messaging) and "data" (for mobile broadband/internet).

In the pre-smartphones era, "mms" used the cellular data communication, but it wasn't called "data" ... because it wasn't used for regular internet connectivity. When people talk about "data", they usually refer to regular internet connectivity. Enabling "data" meant enabling regular internet connectivity, not mms. Mms was an always-on feature.

However, in recent years, smartphones have begun to conflate the two services "mms" and "data" together. Hence, for these phones, enabling "data" enables both regular internet connectivity and mms. I don't know why this definition has started to change.

My Motorola phone has always-on mms. Enabling data only enables regular internet connectivity. A lot of other (probably older) phones are like this.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted, thanks. It won't be simple but I'll see what I can do eventually.

Did you send the emoji using sms or mms? Apparently, some carriers (and possibly Google Voice) corrupt emoji when sent in sms. Can you try sending the emoji using mms?
[Android Apps and Games] HiDEFF:
So, if I disable mobile data, will I still be able to receive mms?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
It depends on your phone so I can't say for sure. The only way to find out is to test it on your phone.
[Android Apps and Games] gtharea:
T-mobile wifi calling and 8sms

Not connected to t-mobile wifi calling, MMS and SMS send and receive work perfectly in 8sms with the mms over wifi setting turned off. With the setting ON I am unable to send, it just says "Sending..." forever. Nothing shows up when waiting for and MMS to recieve.

If I am connected to Tmobile wifi calling and try to send an MMS with 8sms, it doesnt work and just says "Sending..." forever. Applies to mms over wifi setting ON and OFF. Standalone mode is OFF and the stock app is enabled but notifications turned off.

Sending/receiving an MMS using the stock samsung app SecMms.apk works over t-mobile wifi calling.

I am able to recieve MMS in the 8sms app over t-mobile wifi calling but I think thats because standalone mode is NOT enabled and the stock app is the one actually "processing" the mms and relaying the picture to 8sms or something..not sure.

If i enable standalone mode and disable the stock app and im connected to t-mobile wifi calling, MMS send and recieve do not work but and SMS works fine. When I send an MMS its says "currently cant send your message it will be sent when the service becomes available." When I recieve and MMS a new conversation with one blank message appears and on the side of the message it says "Downloading" but nothing happens.

This is an excellent application and I thank you for all the effort you have put into it. I hope this minor annoyance can be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] Andrev01:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] what do you think about sms scheduler option? :) It's really useful sometimes...
[Android Apps and Games] ukdevil:
can anyone tell me if it has support for multi sim phones ?
[Android Apps and Games] StephenJSweeney:
Is it possible to blacklist by keyword (just suppress the notification)?

Ideally, I would like to check an incoming text for certain keywords (case sensitive and case insensitive), and suppress the notification. Spammers tend to use certain words in texts, so it would be nice to not be bothered by them.

Alternatively (this is probably a bit of a big ask), but since you wish to keep the app lightweight and not add tons and tons of features, you could perhaps add in a plugin system, so that users could add in their own extensions for additional behaviour? A bit like the way things like Dashclock and Tasker work? That way, you could keep the app basic, and all people to add in as many new features as they like.

(I wouldn't have a clue how to do this myself, though!)
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
I like the "plugin system" idea if the goal is to keep the main app plain and basic. This app has so much potential!
[Android Apps and Games] harysick:
hi [MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION], does Hangouts UI can be implemented in 8SMS?

i think it's very beautiful for the UI, thanks :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Thanks for trying this out and reporting the results.

Here are some comments and further suggestions.

> Not connected to t-mobile wifi calling, MMS and SMS send and receive

> work perfectly in 8sms with the mms over wifi setting turned off.

Good. This is baseline functionality established as working.

> With the setting ON I am unable to send, it just says "Sending..." forever. \

> Nothing shows up when waiting for and MMS to recieve.

As expected.

> If I am connected to Tmobile wifi calling and try to send an MMS with

> 8sms, it doesnt work and just says "Sending..." forever. Applies to

> mms over wifi setting ON and OFF. Standalone mode is OFF and the

> stock app is enabled but notifications turned off.

In the 8sms "Mms settings" section, what is the value of the "MMS Over Wifi Proxy" setting? Is it Off? Can you try turning this to on? Perhaps mms over Wifi Calling requires using a proxy.

> Sending/receiving an MMS using the stock samsung app SecMms.apk works over t-mobile wifi calling.

Okay. Target baseline functionality established.

> I am able to recieve MMS in the 8sms app over t-mobile wifi calling

> but I think thats because standalone mode is NOT enabled and the stock

> app is the one actually "processing" the mms and relaying the picture

> to 8sms or something..not sure.

Correct. If you are using 8sms in non-stand-alone mode, then the stock app does the initial downloading of the mms message headers. If auto-retrieve is also enabled in the stock app, then message contents are downloaded at the same time as the message headers.

> If i enable standalone mode and disable the stock app and im connected

> to t-mobile wifi calling, MMS send and recieve do not work but and SMS

> works fine. When I send an MMS its says "currently cant send your message

> it will be sent when the service becomes available."

This behaviour is plausibly as expected.

> When I recieve and

> MMS a new conversation with one blank message appears and on the side

> of the message it says "Downloading" but nothing happens.

This one too.

> This is an excellent application and I thank you for all the effort

> you have put into it. I hope this minor annoyance can be fixed.

Thank you too for thorough testing. I rely heavily on diligent testing in order to diagnose situations that I access first-hand myself.

I suspect the issue is network or routing related, but further investigation is required.

A few things to try:

Can you try turning on the "MMS Over Wifi Proxy" setting? Again, perhaps mms over wifi calling requires going through a proxy server.

Can you look in your phone's settings to see if there are any "wifi calling" settings?

Can you email me a copy of the stock messaging app on your phone? You can use the registered developer email address of 8sms from the Play Store.

What phone and version of Android are you using (just to make sure there is no possible confusion)?

If you know how to retrieve logs, can you get me a logcat of the stock app sending and/or receiving an mms (ie. 8sms in non-stand-alone mode)? Just on the off chance there might be interesting stuff in there.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
This is on my to-do list, but in the "wishlist" section for consideration when I have nothing major to fix :)

Not at the moment. See http://8s.ms/dual-sim-support

Not at the moment. Maybe in the far future, but I'm not promising anything yet.

Thanks for the through, but I'm not even sure this is possible. Something to consider on a rainy day.

I would prefer to concentrate on functionality and re-doing themeing first rather than a major change of the UI. Sorry.
[Android Apps and Games] Coolgoly:
Can I delete stock sms app from system or it's required to make 8sms fully working on a Nexus 4 running Purity rom 4.4.2?

Sorry for the question but I don't found nothing about this in the OP and in the pages that I've read.
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
Tried freezing stock, no issues. You can delete it, but you don't need to delete it though, since it will lay dormant when 8sms is set as default.
[Android Apps and Games] Coolgoly:
Yes but it is still cached into ram.
[Android Apps and Games] ukdevil:
Thank you for the response i'm willing to help test when the time comes.
[Android Apps and Games] mirfaghihi:
i m looking for this messaging app as shown in the photo:mad: with this theme fascility any body is there to help me
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Didn't look familiar...sorry

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
8sms does not support themeing at this time. You can accomplish this look using Chomp SMS.
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
Hmmm...if you want messaging apps that have fully themed customization then download Baked Rom and extract mms.apk and push it into your system/apps....

mms.apk from Baked Rom v4.2.2 can be use on Android v4.3.1 (tested by me)...
[Android Apps and Games] Coderedpl:
I just downloaded this to try out since I got tired of Hangouts not getting certain mms messages and loosing them.

One thing I noticed that bothers me, in group text messages. I'm not sure if that's how it should be or not.

As we know group texts are basically mms. I wanted to know if there is anyway to have the last text be 'previewed' in the messaging list?

Currently, it says (No Subject) for each group text I do. Hangouts and some others preview the text.

Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere?
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
Are you sure this will work on other phones? AT&T Galaxy S3?

Mind posting a link to this Baked ROM?
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
It should work on any AOSP rom since Baked are base on that...i have tested the mms on PAC rom and Carbon Rom...there also a rom for your devices (S3 AT&T)....

Here is the link : BAKED ROM
[Android Apps and Games] mirfaghihi:
i like to say thanks i followed your instruction is rich customization app but my beanstalk kitkat having same messaging app and some of its setting not working on my xperia ion finally installed handcent app so far is so good thanks again

---------- Post added at 06:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ----------

thanks for your guidelines bro .
[Android Apps and Games] sjamie:
Handcent and Chomp SMS are strangely similar.
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
LoL...if you are trying to use mms.apk from 4.2.2 to kitkat, then off course some of the setting won't work on your phone...but if you are talking about mms.apk from beanstalk it self then that is the rom problem not the messaging apps...
[Android Apps and Games] mirfaghihi:
i download 4.4.2 backet rom ,and extract and install it ask me if i want to update my pre installed rom app acceptd updated successfully but couldn't distinguish any different but of your replay i become clear , this pre installed app that doesn't get everything i m looking for ,so install new handcent messaging app is mazing with rich customization and one i was looking for with themes , on line fast chatting and beautiful popup and a lot of option ,etc
[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
Well...you are not suppose to install mms.apk from Baked Rom on top of your current mms.apk...you need to delete your default mms.apk (make backup) and replaced it with mms.apk from Baked and give proper permissions...then you need to clear mms.apk data before you reboot it (don't worry clearing data won't delete all your sms)...after reboot then you need to setup your mms settings again...that is how you make every option inside mms works....

but since you already use Handcent then there nothing more i can help you with...
[Android Apps and Games] djamolsky:
How to choose multiple recipients on a select list?

On Android 4.2.2, the stock message app allows to select multiple recipients by choosing them on a multi select list (which is called with a button on top right corner).

This possibility seems have disappeared... or maybe there is a shortcut replacing this button?

Many thanks for your help! :)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
On Android AOSP and most phones, you can delete the stock messaging app if you wish. Probably you can do the same with the Purity rom, but the only way to really find out is to try it yourself.

Noted, thanks.

Not a setting you're missing. I think this could be characterised as a bit of a bug, and I'll have to chase it up.

This is a feature that will be included when I next do an update from Cyanogenmod into 8sms. I hope you don't mind being patient for it :)
[Android Apps and Games] djamolsky:
I will be patient for sure, your application seems promising! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Excited :D

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] Crash:
Awesome app any chance to add this png I guess looks great too

Here is the link for the png

https://mega.co.nz/#!sF8mWIKZ!RwA7mTr36uxITA7iCeqGr6LzMBblY7475nlbV6aeq-g

Hugs 5 stars on play store

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Android Apps and Games] Coderedpl:
Looking forward to updates.
[Android Apps and Games] nikant:
what I wrote in Play store.. (sorry really don't have time to read all pages..)

** speed of the app, memory etc. (perhaps) could be better if emoji was an external plugin for people that don't use them.

** long sms over 160 chars shouldn't split.. don't know how other apps do it but carriers do send long messages in one. (OR I'm doing it wrong and it is in settings somewhere.. I haven't seen split messages -SMS not MMS- in years..)

** missing the ability to multiselect messages in a conversation. (i.e. I want to delete 3 of 10 messages in a conversation I have to do them one by one.. OR again I'm doing it wrong.. :p)

Thank you for this great app!
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
I know it's been asked before, but please please please (extra please) make the blue background in the messages overview black, or at least holo.dark next time you update. This is when running dark interface. It should be an easily swapped png and will not take too much time:) The white text on blue background is not optimal contrast for a dark room. If you're unsure what I mean, please look at any Slimrom's trds on in their messages app..

Edit: Just reverse the two colours, blue for unread, black for read. (instead of the opposite as it is now.) Makes more sense:)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hmmm ... if I accept this as a logo, then I'd have to accept zillions of other suggestions too ... which is a can of worms I'd rather not have to deal with yet.

If 8sms on your phone is splitting long sms before sending, then untick "Split Counter" in the 8sms Sms settings.

Some carriers can't handle long sms and will reject them. If your carrier is one of them (I think Sprint it), then configure 8sms to send long sms as mms.

The other two points are things I have noted. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] Crash:
Don't worry I understand

Thanks

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Android Apps and Games] Solaire of Astora:
I've recently installed this application and it looks great so far. The only thing I miss is the quick reply option in the notification bar. Instead, it automatically opens the quick reply pop-up which can be annoying sometimes. It's not much of an issue though.

I've taken the liberty of translating the application to Dutch. Feel free to add it in future updates, I've attached the xml file file to this post (after compressing it).
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Can you please check the setting "Quick Reply" » "Show pop-up" in 8sms? If it is ticked, try unticking it.

Thanks for the translations. Can you email me please (at the registered developer email address of 8sms)? I would like to be able to use email to keep you notified of new translations.
[Android Apps and Games] Solaire of Astora:
Thanks, that did it. Must have accidentally checked it.

Sure, I'll send you an e-mail right away.
[Android Apps and Games] shadowdrag96:
hey just downloaded this on on my razr hd with 4.1.2 and blurry HD 1.2 rom and it works great so far.
[Android Apps and Games] jazzh:
Please, Bengtan, add font size option...
[Android Apps and Games] Andrev01:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]: I wonder if my 8sms takes more battery when new mms appears. I can't download mms (cause of my carrier settings - I can't set them properly on 4.4.2 now) but I have also set 8sms to "only on data on" (and now I have it off). Just wondering, I'm not sure if it's caused by 8sms though.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

If the mms settings are incorrect, and 8sms tries to retrieve mms, then it would cause some battery usage because 8sms would fail and continually retry.

If you disable mobile data, or turn mms off (in 8sms), then the battery usage would be minimal because 8sms would stop trying.

The proper fix is to turn mms off totally (in 8sms), or configure the mms setttings correctly.

Reference: http://8s.ms/high-battery-usage

I hope this helps?
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]

How do I set my own picture in sendt messages? If I go into a thread there's the "white Android no contact pic" next to all messages I've sent. Trying to open "myself" as a contact I get the message that the contact doesn't exist. (I've created a contact with the same phone number as my own which I'm sending messages from, yet no 8sms claims the contact doesn't exist.)
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
This info is pulled from your profile in your phone's contacts. You must set up the "Me" contact with some info.
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
I'm on 4.4 (cm11) and there's no option for a "me" contact. Earlier I've set up a regular contact with my picture, name and number, but 8sms doesn't pull that contact.
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I'm on CM 10.2.1 currently and I use the "Me" profile in CM ROMs all the time. I briefly tried out CM11 a few weeks ago ... I guess I don't remember it 'not' being in CM11. Don't remember for sure, though. Are you looking in CM's stock "People" app and not in the contacts section of the phone/dialer or in some other app?

Weird.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

In your "People" app, there should be a special contact named "Me". On my phone, this "Me" contact is at the top of the list, but it might be different on your phone.

Find the "Me" contact and change the photo for it.

If your CM11 rom doesn't have a "Me" contact in its People app, then I think the problem is with the rom.
[Android Apps and Games] Eddiemc:
Thanks. Definitely a user error:)

I went into contacts through the stock phone app (as I normally do) and couldn't find the "me" contact.. That's why I didn't get it.

I never used the standalone contacts app (called "people" once opened), so I had removed it from view. I found it and offcourse right on the top there's a setup for the personal profile.. My bad.

Thanks for the persistent explanation to both of you. Everything is now good. :)
[Android Apps and Games] kondi89:
Hi,

Is it possible to add option "Auto-hide keyboard when sending button is tapped"?
[Android Apps and Games] morfredus:
Good evening.

Thank you for this fabulous application.

Is it possible to have in the options, possibility of having a multiple reminder?

Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] dearde4n:
hi [MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION].. could you please add batch delete in one conversation.. if i have conversation with someone i have to manually delete one by one the old messages. its kinda annoying. thanx

Sent from GN2 over PhoeniX Rom
[Android Apps and Games] mcerk02:
Just wanted to report that AdBlock plus was causing my MMS messages to get stuck on sending, ...never would have thought but just happened to come across this quote and tried it,....Tried this a few times and found AdBlock toggled off = sends, AdBlock toggled on = stuck on sending....thanks
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
What would you put in over wifi proxy?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

I tried to reproduce this behaviour a few times on my phone, but it didn't behave as you've described. AFAICT, it's working properly for me ... the outbound message is saved into the existing thread.

Does this still happen for you? If so, does it always behave incorrectly, or only sometimes?
[Android Apps and Games] Spacemonkie4207:
I use Desktop visualizer from play store (great app)

Or you can use good old Nova/Apex
[Android Apps and Games] herobrine_second:
Works on my Galaxy S3 GT-I9305, LTE version, not sure whether it works for the normal Galaxy S3 (GT-I9300)

Sent from a phone.
[Android Apps and Games] iamjerry123:
For some reason, not all messages pop up. and sometimes when the messages pop up, it shows the previous message I received, not the one I just received.
[Android Apps and Games] Oscar96:
With my Xperia S Lt-i26 the original timestamp always shows 1/1/1970

But the app is really good. It could be possible to substitute in the future the stock app with this one? I mean,will you make this app such as gosms or chomp or others? Or it will be an add-on forever?

Inviato dal mio LT26i