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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah the problem is this, those apps, addons or launchers read the default unsecured database of messages in android... I made the choice with smart messenger to not use that, and instead create a dataset with more information and that can be secured from other apps and google (stop info scraping etc) , this also allowed many other things... I'm actually against using the default content provider for this reason (lots of others too but this is the main one)... so in order for this to work, google would have to include something in the android framework for me to do it... now, it is on my list to do something like this for 1,2,3,4,5,5+,10+ and it's not out of the question... but it's not really high on the list at the moment...

There maybe a possibility for me to add the option to take out all the advanced features of SM and use it unsecured and using the default android sms database ... but this would be much, much further down the line

hope this answers your queries
[Android Apps and Games] The Apostle:
Yes and thank you. I really enjoy the app... It's stunning compared to most. I know it's still in Beta but I do have some things I've noticed. None are huge issues but nonetheless they are present. I'm sure you know of some of these and possibly all of them.

Themes - is only one if your base themes fully editable? Simple flat dynamic is the only one that I can actually edit them settings. The others don't even give me an option.

Also, when I adjust slider pixle size, it seems to do nothing at all.

Custom themes - is there an ability to create my own?

Sending messages - if I enter a phone number it tells me I need to add a recipient. It seems I can only send messages to people in my contact list.

MMS - I cannot forward a picture. I have to create a new MMS and then send.

Just letting you know. Great app though. I'm not complaining. I'd even pay a few bucks for a "pro" version.

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sent from my mobile office while swerving down interstate 64. Since I cannot keep my eyes off the road to long, please excuse my typos.
[Android Apps and Games] mva1985:
I've actually been using this app as my replacement txt messaging so far the only problem I'm having is photos people send me. they appear in the stock txt app but not in SM ... I don't send many pics but some send them to me.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yes at this time there is only one editable...

This is not a visual change, it's the active area that can trigger the drag/side panel open (this setting is overridden if there is no swipe pager in the main content area to just be full screen trigger)

Only for me, the custom theme was the 1st beginnings of me opening the app up for total in app theme creation

This works fine for me, can you confirm and give more details ?

You should add this to the bug database, as it's simply just something that I forgot (not forwarding messages myself :) )

Cheers, I'm still thinking of monetization ways, I think I want to make it modular, so rather than a pro version you enable things. I think this works better for the developer and users cause it means the most users of a premium feature dictate that it gets the most development.

This simply means your stock app is not leaving them in the system broadcast, and is blocking SM. Nothing to do with SM really.. (I should do a simple android FAQ cause people have even rated me 1 star for simple android things that have nothing to do with SM, almost made me stop working on it too. Still struggling to get back into it)
[Android Apps and Games] ereotav:
This app is pretty solid, I would find a FAQ very helpful
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Agreed, I really should do one, also planned to do some videos on the filter system to show what people can do, but the problem is this is still beta and things may change quite a bit. Did have some vids on youtube, but the names and location of things changed so much that they caused more confusion than they solved :(

But if you have any question fire away and I will do my best to answer :)

FAQ & Vid tutorials are priority 1 when out of beta (or at the end of beta)
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Did you ever get MMS figured out? That's the reason I stopped using this app.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yeah.. Still have group messages to sort and want to be able to add any file to mms.. bit it currently works
[Android Apps and Games] steelersmb:
Filters

Each time I try to create a filter, it doesn't save it.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
please explain further, cause as long as there is a name and you press save there is little that can go wrong :)
[Android Apps and Games] steelersmb:
Basically when I create a filter, give it a name and press save it takes me back to the filter screen but nothing is listed there. Shouldn't any filters I create be listed?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah I just done the same (and it works) and know many testers who use filters and they have never reported that they can't create... can you get me a logcat surrounding the "pressing save" action ?
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
So group messaging does not work yet? And is MMS still sent as a link or whatever and not the actual picture, also what do you mean by "any file" what are the current limitations? Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
LINKS are google media (MSMS) and nothing to do with MMS, no group messages (MMS) are received but cant reply yet, pictures send fine but I want the ability to send any file in an mms, like a document (docx), or random binary file (rar,zip etc)... atm the mms implementation is just pictures
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Thanks man! :good:

Just made my GF try it out and she loves it haha. I use 8sms because it allows MMS over WiFi (and Sprint is able to do that and I believe T-Mobile as well).
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
If you get me a logcat of the failure of SM to send over wifi, then I would be maybe able to sort it :)

There is a "do not turn wifi off" button/setting in there if I remember
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
MMS not working for me. It says sent but no one ever gets the MMS I send.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
can you join the beta group then join the beta link? Cause would be interested to know if it is still the case with the latest beta version
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
I just sent a join request on G+
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
K I did what you asked and reinstalled. Still can't send regular MMS. It says it sent but people don't receive them. I'm on Sprint.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
What version? Did you accept the beta in the g+ about box (has to be on a PC)
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
Yes I did and it was version 0.07.346
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You need to join the beta with the link in the about box of the g+ community, the latest beta is now at *.*.360
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
I already am. I reinstalled the app and it is version 360. Got a couple of MMS to go through. But two things now… contact pics are randomly showing a different contacts picture and I am getting force closes like crazy. Any time I try to enter a conversation or go into settting. Then it will be okay for a few minutes then it will start with the force closes. So much so its really not useable.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Are u sending reports? Cause not getting any
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
Yes. About 20 of them. Lol
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
Thats not my error report. I'm not on 4.3 im on 4.4.2 and NC5 baseband not MJ4.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah that is you, has to be, the 4.3 is the hlte lib version, this is an internal android crash, there is also a comment with your name and the words "from xda" ;) bit of a giveaway that.

So I think I can speculate a 3rd party restriction here...somehow. I take it the phone is not on stock android ?
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
Guess you're right. The 4.3 threw me. I did put my user name and xda reference on one of the many I sent. So yeah, not stock. I was running an AOSP custom ROM and it was not working. I thought it was something in Xposed that might be causing it so I uninstalled Xposed and tried again but was still getting FCs. So I tried another ROM that I like and same thing. So again I tried a third ROM and its been working just fine. All three are AOSP custom ROMs. I dunno….
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
so working fine in another rom ?

some roms use a mix of odd tweaks and libraries so could speculate all day as to what may cause it :)
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
Yeah its working just fine on the custom ROM I'm currently running.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Out of interest could you link the 2 roms that are not working, I may look at the repo and figure out why they don't
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
AOSP Heisenberg ROM

and

AOSP C-ROM

Both versions I was on were for the HLTE Note 3
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
thanks are they talked about here on xda ?
[Android Apps and Games] lexguy2007:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2739968

and

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2696993
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
thanks
[Android Apps and Games] jayinc11:
Love the app, love the UI. I love that it has an inbuilt scheduler - that's one less app I have to install.

When I have to blast an sms to 50 recipients the current setup for entering them is not convenient. I would like to see a check box listing setup that I can just scroll through and let's me click recipients. Like the image below.

In all a great app, I have already migrated to it from stock app. Great job.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Yeah...I have planned to do a better picker... You should sign up to the bug dB and add a feature request.. Then you would get updates
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaliV2:
Very pleased with this app. Aesthetically it looks very good, fonts are a tad small (galaxy s5) but are easily enlarged, Interface runs very smoothly, and for me with a flashed device on PagePlus, MMS works very well. Only issue I encountered, and this may have perhaps been due to issues you are aware of, but the themes archive was down so there was no way for me to change the appearance of the application. I love the default theme, I just like being able to color match with my system. Hopefully you know about this already and it isn't really an issue. I would definitely use this in the future once completely released because it looks so much more modern that what I use right now and has a much better icon :D You've got something really great here.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
actually only learned of the themes been off today, your the 2nd person to say so. Will look into it and see what I can do
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaliV2:
Awesome. I'm glad to see it wasn't just on my end. I'm excited to mess with the themes as I've pretty much exhausted the standard settings.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Could you do me a favour, as I'm looking into much of the remote sync database stuff now, in the side panel of the visual/themes window, there is a refresh/sync button, does that fetch themes for you ?
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Doesn't for me.
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaliV2:
I uninstalled and reinstalled today and used the sync feature and it doesn't show any results. Also, my themes lacks options as well so both segments are blank even after syncing.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Are you joined in the beta ? If not join it cause going to push a test of this shortly (later today) to beta
[Android Apps and Games] AlkaliV2:
Edit: Just sent a join request to you. I'd be happy to test the release once you have it up later today.

Also, the Google+ link in your signature leads to a "404 page not found" but I was able to find your beta page through search.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Accepted and fixed my sig, thanks :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.7.363

* SSL fixes (themes)

Very temp release

This is released to the beta group....if you need access to beta (and you should) join and enable from links in my sig
[Android Apps and Games] jayinc11:
1-No option to save an mms message then comeback to it to continue editing?

2-Can this app send mm without data service but with wifi connection?

It's giving the error below
[Android Apps and Games] zelendel:
Only T-mobile has mms over wifi and then it only seems to work on some apps. All others turn data on to send and then it gets pushed into the background or back off depending on if you have it on or off while on wifi
[Android Apps and Games] jayinc11:
Is it known to work with TMobile MVNO's? I use solavei.

Also comment/confirm question #1 from above please.
[Android Apps and Games] zelendel:
To be honest I dont think it works on MVNO, they save that option for their main accounts, but to be honest I dont know as there is no t-mobile here.

As for your first question I couldnt answer as I no longer use this app.
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
Don't you mean Sprint? I know T-Mobile has Wifi calling but I don't think they have MMS over Wifi.
[Android Apps and Games] MrPandroid:
This. This is an awesome app.

Just a few things...Maybe i overlooked it in the thread. Anyway. If I try to do an automatic APN settings...I get an error saying this;

Sorry, could not find any configs for

config :310:260:US

Now, I input the MMS APN for tmobile, and still doesn't work. Could be the version I'm using. So I did sign up for the beta just now.

AT&T S3 on the 4.4 update, rooted. if that helps at all. Once I try the beta app, when I get accepted into the group, I'll see if MMS works for me. just figured I'd toss all this out there though.

seriously though. Awesome app. I love it.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
1. Erm, MMS is still not complete, but should be easy enough if not in there, if you want to test I suggest you join beta as there is a much more advanced version on beta group

2. Yes and No, yes it has worked in the past, no I dont think it does currently, maybe due to a t-mobile change

The error maybe means you have not configured mms yet ? (the newest beta will auto configure for you I think, depending on carrier)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
If you have accepted the beta in the g+ group about box then you should have functioning auto config and themes, but if your on the standard play version "360" then you wont
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Request

Can anyone just tell me if their number is accessible in android please ? (Android Settings > About > Status > (should be here))

Or tell me if it's not :) Nexus 5 UK (O2 network) mine is not
[Android Apps and Games] roughneckboren:
I sent a google+ invite your way. Can't wait to get the features
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dont forget you have to read the "about" box of the g+ group on a pc to see the accept/join link....but yeah think I just approved you :)
[Android Apps and Games] roughneckboren:
Yes you did. Thank you for accepting. Got the themes now and mms setting configured correctly. Can't wait to try the app out. How many themes are currently available? Or do I need to post this stuff on the g+ community boards?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no here is fine also, if you report bugs then the BUG DB is better.... erm there are a few, though I have limited them for the latest release cause I would need to update them (currently 8-10 ish) dont remember :) but after I sort group mms then will bring the themes up to date...
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Not for me. It was there when I was in the U.S. on AT&T but I'm in the UK for a bit now, using GiffGaff, and my number is no longer listed.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
thanks for response, I kinda hate this inconsistency between sim/carriers
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
did you sort the mms probs ?
[Android Apps and Games] MrPandroid:
Unfortunately, no. I have tried multiple things, but to no avail. Between MMS proxy and port adding/removing...Save to stock enabled/disabled, multiple different roms because hey, why not. Leave WiFi on enabled/disabled. Changing maximum picture size up and down, maximum pixels up and down, etc. So really, I have no idea where to go from this point o.o
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Have you : turned on mms debug popups in settings ? looked at the event processing list ?
[Android Apps and Games] MrPandroid:
I don't believe I've tried the MMS debug. However whenever processing is checked, it says pending. For a good long while. Then eventually goes to failed.

Out of curiosity, can you MMS yourself? I know with the stock app and other iterations of apps, if you send yourself one, you receive it.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
not sure, think it could be network dependant...so would always test with another party... you should turn error popups on and see what it's saying
[Android Apps and Games] MrPandroid:
Last time I had error popups on, it gave me an http error

---------- Post added at 10:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 PM ----------

That's all the information the logcat provides. MMS says sent though, person never got it. MMS processing also says completed.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I'm starting to suspect it could be something to do with authentication at t mobile's end, as the absolute only way for it to mark the task as complete is to get a correct accepted response from the server (code:200 i think)

problem is I dont live in the states or have access to t-mobile wifi calling/mms stuff...so a bit of a problem for me to have a look at
[Android Apps and Games] MrPandroid:
Yeah I understand. That's also what I was beginning to suspect as well. It could be authentication issues on their end or something along those lines
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Question

has anyone ever wanted needed to send "any" file by MMS or just pics etc ?

Cause there is no reason (other than the app at the receiving end being able to know it's "x" type of file) that you can't send any binary file

feature worth adding or not?﻿
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
Wen I try to apply a theme from online I get a popup saying "please wait" and wen I hit the check nothing shows up in the online tab?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
what version do of the app do you have ? settings > about
[Android Apps and Games] zelendel:
I do. My son's and I send each other pics, audio and short video files using mms.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
but I mean besides those, like say a docx or a zip, pkg or apk etc
[Android Apps and Games] anonymous-bot:
I'll throw in my $0.02 and say I'd like that feature.
[Android Apps and Games] zelendel:
Not really as due to carrier limits most can't send anything over 1mb
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
0.08.388 388
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
new version is up, try that and wait one the themes page till the popup goes... I think I need a progress bar there :)
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
I set the vibration setting to a 2.0 duration but it still vibrates as a pattern...on the latest version
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Always better to quote the version number as the latest play may not be the latest beta.

There are a few places to control vibration... I take it u mean defaults in settings and not any filter control?
[Android Apps and Games] aghoose:
hehehe...

i vote "Theme Editor (not just colors, but everything" :D
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I have tried and tried and cannot get it not to work as expected, make sure you have no filter/rule that is acting on it, also in the filter side panel there is a test message function now so you dont have to waste messages on the network. :)
[Android Apps and Games] :
Hi, great app. I bought a license. It would need speed up the overall operation of the application.It is possible to add to your classic smileys character. You picture on older phones do not display. Could be the switch to classic / picture smileys. Also annoying is finding application updates / when opening the skins. It is possible add to right, or look up only the request?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sorry, not quite sure I understand lots of what your asking:

Classic Picture Smilies ?

I know what you mean about the sync stuff, and yes will be doing it in the background with no visual indications quite soon!
[Android Apps and Games] :
I think that's when you insert a smiley in on some old phone does not appear. It would be good to put smilies in a classic format ... :) double dot, dash, parentheses
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ah, yeah, I assumed people just type them like this :) and job done
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Request

Is anyone able to test "any" file mms sending for me ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.8.422

* new background syncing for themes

* mms fixes

* mms "ANY" file sending (requires support for recipient) (enable in settings)

* fixed long standing sync trigger issue

* implemented new time and date pickers

* new APN and mms wizard lookups

* Changed look of password fields to be visible

* New MMS tester

* New settings Mode (easy/advanced)

* Defaults to new theme

* Defaults to only mobile contacts

* Slight UI defaults changes
[Android Apps and Games] loligan:
It's just great!
[Android Apps and Games] DominatingSystem:
Can you add Nexus 7 LTE support? I can't download it from playstore...

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
it's odd that it is not compatible, will look into this now and have a play... contact me private and can send you a release build to manually install and test if you want
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
actually is this not an Android 4.4 thing ? It seems they have removed any SMS support ? Or thats what I'm reading currently!

Seems your device is nerfed :) But found hope I think http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2539407
[Android Apps and Games] DominatingSystem:
I use xposed mod.. So I can send sms and mms with my LTE Nexus 7. At the moment I us hangout.. So your app must work..

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
that mod link it to provision the fact that it has telephony though, so you can install sms apps from play
[Android Apps and Games] DominatingSystem:
Nope.. I can't install your app. But forget it.. I don't have the time to play ping pong.. (you can, no I can't, can send me a test build? But you can download it on play, no I can't..)

The wasted my time, sry. ;)

Good luck with your app.

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[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sorry for looking into it and finding you a more permenant solution that would work for you to download any sms app from play not just mine... thought I was being helpful
[Android Apps and Games] moxlon69:
Seems to be a recurring theme. Don't let them get you down, the app looks great and seems well thought out. I just think that there are too many people who buy androids that like to blame their problems (self imposed, stock ROM weirdness, carrier specific, etc) on the development community at large.. Like "I installed your app and now my camera force closes" kinda things..