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[Android Apps and Games] iPusak Gaoq™:
Hmmm...i'm interested on try this app on PAC ROMs but before i download this i just wanna know, do i have to disable/freeze/remove default mms.apk before using this app?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no.. it's totally separate to all other apps, in addition if your on anything but kitkat, the default behaviour is to work nicely with other apps ;)
[Android Apps and Games] antony991:
Hi..I want to try this app, I downloaded and installed but does not work. it is as if the app is not active .. I dont't receive any SMS notification, but sends them .. maybe I need to activate something in the settings? .. i have Gakaxy S II with JB 4.1.2.

PS sorry for my Inglese
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You probably have another SMS app that is "Blocking" SmartMessenger.
[Android Apps and Games] antony991:
i use google hangout..it's incompatible?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
hangouts will block all other SMS apps below itself, so no message will make it through to any other apps with a lower filter priority in the android system... SmartMessenger is set very low, so yes, I would think hangouts is blocking SMS's
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Update (on what I'm doing)

Ok well just thought I would say what is happening and currently underway..

"New data structure" ok well this is for a few reasons, the 2 most important are to accommodate a new "collection" data object, this is an object that acts as an intermediate for holding data. Basically it unifies sending of files through whatever means. This change is also structured toward mms integration, you can think of a collection as a container for files, any files... these also will act as "parts" for the mms...

New collections viewer and display widget for items, well need a nice way to view them :)

ditched Picture and File SMS, there is now just Media SMS and you can add anything to it that displays in a list...

Added multi selection send to filters (now that I have these collections)

Implemented a new shiny "event" system, that shows lots more info on what is currently happening or just completed...

probably loads more that I cant remember, but I think I fixed a fair number of bugs that people have mentioned in the last few weeks..

Just so anyone that is interested knows that I'm still working on this constantly !﻿
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
I hope the pop up is being reworked.

Something less intrusive.

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
people wanted a conversation view in the popup, I could do a single message view and have it as an option ?
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
Yes, sounds interesting.

Sent from my SGNote 2
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
but thats what you mean right ? just the current message in a compact dialog rather than full conversation history ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Experimental Build

If anyone is interested in testing a new experimental build, contact me on hangouts/gtalk/g+ group
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
Yes but also other messages. See the attached picture

Sent from my SGNote 2
[Android Apps and Games] guliwers:
Very nice app!

Thx
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ah yes, that is in the to do list, will make it a bit better looking than that though :)
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
Then if you hit the arrow it expands to show the conversation. Brilliant!

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
out of interest, why would you want to "not" use the rest of the "disabled" screen area from the get go ? Seems like a bad design decision unless the current task was somehow integral to the background one, and then the whole thing flops neways...
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
Because it becomes intrusive when I don't need it.

When it's a simple reply (ex; is it cold outside) I don't need to see the whole convo. It should be........ Optional.

Sent from my SGNote 2
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
would you not just read the notification and then dismiss it ? (as in not even show the popup) ?
[Android Apps and Games] ubigred:
No. I would reply within the pop up (ex yes it is cold outside)

Sent from my SGNote 2!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
REQUEST

Is anyone who has "Lots" of messages in SmartMessenger (5000+) available to test a backup and restore version for me ?
[Android Apps and Games] lucrodev:
This looks amazing! I'll try it out!
[Android Apps and Games] Thunder07:
Hi deanwray,

I've been looking for an SMS app replacement for a while now and actually gave up looking until I came across this app,

Must say it looks very nice and well thought through.

I do however have 1 problem,

I know the title says kitkat and that could be the problem?

I have an HTC One X and I'm on JB and after I installed the app and ran it, none of my old SMS showed up, I look through the 1st few post but no one commented on that, could it be just me?

Edit:

Oops just came across the thread that says you don't use standard SMS database :/

Send From My HTC One X
[Android Apps and Games] Evil Genius Jr.:
You have to import messages. It's in settings.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
As evil says, you can import them, but yes the reason I dont use the "content" provider like all other apps do is mainly for 2 reasons, 1 security (as I'm not a fan of google or other apps that would/could read conversations, also SM has complex filters and messageboxes and the blind security codes that dont really fit with default format) 2 additions, I plan on adding SM only functional messages, these would totally not work with the default database :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release : 0.05.167 (released to beta group)

* new collection media system

* new send event system

* new event backup system

* new display widgets for media

* consolidated media SMS with multi add widget

* in built picture viewer

* new progress indicators

* more....

BE AWARE there will be many things that do not work or that are bugs, I will fix when reported asap. This new change is to accommodate the new mms structure that is half integrated, hopefully to be released soon ish
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.05.170

* added a 1st run check and dialog for importing messages

* added new adaptive conditional menus

* added thread commands to conversation view "End Thread, merge thread"

* google drive fixes
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.05.174

* Bug fix to collections downloader, possible crash/lockup, limited to single item download when not "auto" downloaded

* Added fix for restoring backups from previous version (although may need to restart the app if when you go into a conversation there are no messages) Better fix coming later

* fixed dialog / setup flow when no gdrive account and entering backups

* dialog requesting restart added after a full restore is done

* added collections to backup system
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Hi,

I'm using this app, very nice.

Suggestion:

Add a notification about Delivery reports

Backup/Restore to/from XML file (make it standard or can support other sms backup app such as "SMS Backup & Restore")

The preview in the notification bar is not working very well; if I receive a few words it shows but longer, there is no preview.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Add a notification about Delivery reports

Hmmm never really thought about that, just a toggle switch that would trigger a notification "delivered to xxxxxx" ?

Backup/Restore to/from XML file (make it standard or can support other sms backup app such as "SMS Backup & Restore")

It can't ever be standard and it is quite multi-dimensional, but I could/will maybe implement JSON local backups

The preview in the notification bar is not working very well; if I receive a few words it shows but longer, there is no preview.

Even when you 2 finger swipe down on it ? (btw, thinking of doing my own custom view for notifications rather than the android standard one, cause I'm not best pleased with it tbh)

hope that helps, and thanks for the suggestions
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Yes for the notification, like the notification in the stock app for instance.

For the backup, the more standardize, the better it is. Or another option is to select what to import or export, instead of importing/exporting everything.

SMS preview, my bad, didn't try the finger swipe :p

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well the backup was just a quick implementation for my beta testers cause I tend to change things lots and wanted people to have a safety net, I will have what you suggest in the more refined version of backups. Also going to have a "mirror mode"

the delivery report on the stock app just uses the same as SM does, "delivered" flag on messages within a thread? Or does it actually send a notification to the pull down? I really dont/cant remember

The notification like I say, not happy with android ones, will do my own nearer release :)
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
The delivery report is better in SM, as you have the flag on the message, without long pressing and going to details as in the stock app.

But in the stock app, once you send a message, you got a notification in the notification bar once received or not (+ the sound or the same thing you set for the sms reception).
[Android Apps and Games] Aniruddha10:
Great App

A lot of customizations and new ideas. It's really good.

I just have one suggestion. When you blind hide a contact and you recieve your msg from them.

If the notification is disabled, you won't knw if there is a sms unless u hear the sound or vibrate.

It would be good if we could enable notification but change the name of the contact or hide the text but still show contact name.

Please do something about this because if I don't hav my phone with me and I look at it after, I won't knw if I have recieved a msg from the hidden contact.

Thanks for this awesome app :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I am on with it now, a new filter system almost ready for 1st pass testing. Allows pretty much that and anything else too :) Oh and it is soo much easier to control and play with ;)

Join the g+ beta group if you want a peek as I will be releasing a build link there in next day I think :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
[MENTION=293916]deanwray[/MENTION] I'm still getting issues with the contact picture changing to another. Noticed it this time after clean flashing my Rom and restoring SM with Tb. Any more ideas what could be causing this? Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
restoring with tb would and could cause a number of issues. Hence why SM handles it's own backups.. in short I store fast lookup tables for things such as contact pictures, based of a very simple "contact_id","image_uri" ... so I would guess that since the contact id has changed, SM is confused with any message that is old. Restoring using SM actually updates the fast lookup tables, TB will restore the database that references your contacts from the last phone... this is what I'm guessing :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
So if I do a clean flash again I will have dload SM again from writhe play store or g+ then restore it from internally?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
or to the same effect, backup using SM "now", clear app data, restore using SM... then you dont have to wipe / install anything :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Well give it a try next time and see what happens, thanks again
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
one thing you could do to confirm this is do the following

on a thread that has a wrong contact image... go into it

long press last message

note the info for the person ID and person Pic

get that person to text you again

long press last message

note the info for the person ID and person Pic

See if there is a difference..
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Timestamp

Hi,

The more I use it the more I like it :good:

Suggestion about timestamp, when we go to the info of the message, the timestamp is not friendly, I guess we have to do some conversion to get a friendly format, ex yy/mm/dd hh:mm:ss ...

Is it possible to change its format?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
These details are the same but the picture is still wrong. I even did what you said and cleared data etc but still no difference.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
lol, oh balls, yes I will make it display an actual date/time rather than g.milliseconds :) It must have just slipped me by that one :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
then that is very very odd, if you delete the entire thread, and just get 1 new message from that person is it correct ?
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Yeah still the same, the person id and person pic the same the actual image different. It's very strange, only went crazy after the restore but since then I have uninstalled app followed your restore instructions.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if you create a new message and from the contacts dropdown look at the contacts, are they all correct ? and when you add them, and send do they stay correct ? (as in create new message not type into a thread)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Some are the correct ones in the drop down but others show incorrect, after sending the wrong contact pic stays
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
wow, ok the odd thing here is that the drop down you see when typing a name is taken direct from the android contact list, as in I dont cache data to do direct contact lookups, it all comes from androids contact database.

Do me a fav. go to your gmail account in a web browser on your computer and switch to contacts view, are your contacts correct ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
BTW it's fixed now, or rather when I release the next version it's in there... thanks for pointing it out ")
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Yeah the contacts online are correct showing the correct images. Would it be an issue that with some of my contacts I pull in the profile pic from Fb?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if the fb app has locked the contact pics on your android contacts app yes, cause I refuse to integrate fb api, but this would just show "default" pic, not incorrect. Are you 100% sure that when you look at gmail.com on a pc in a web browser and switch to contacts that the images are correct ?
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
I use Contacts+ for syncing but yes I am 100% certain that the contacts online are correct and also correct in the contacts on my phone. Other apps also show them correct, so its really weird.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
whats totally strange to me is that the "new message" contact dropdown takes the same info that your androids stock contact app does, so for that to show wrong images it a bit.... unexplained :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
When you said that, about the drop down taking the image direct from the contacts list I thought it might be an issue with the contact but I have checked and double checked and the contacts both online and on the device are correct lol.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well to be more precise there is a threaded filter search that runs on the android contacts database, searching the contacts name and or number. The return data is the contacts_id that then in that dropdown I search for the contact pic in that record and just directly display it. So there is nothing of SmartMessenger going on there... so for that to be wrong, either I have a field name that is wrong (doubtful cause that would cause a handled error resulting in no/default image) or android is reporting the wrong picture location. So yes, I'm quite confused about this :)

Another diagnostic idea, create another contact, like

"candice"

here is a contact pic for her ;)

and see if that all shows fine, these are more shots in the dark, but would be nice to know the "how" and "why" :)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
OK, so i created a new contact with the new pic and test number and opened up SM went to create a new msg, searched for 'Candice' lol and the contact including the pic came up correctly.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
ok stage 2, re-create one of your other contacts, as in remove one that was causing a problem, then re-create see if thats fine...

if it is fine, then has to be a contacts database prob that other apps account for and I dont,

if it is not fine then the problem lies with SM somewhere
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
OK so i recreated the offending contact, re-added all details and synced it now it is showing correctly. But the funny part is that when I first ran SM the other day, it did it's initial import and all contacts were fine, but only started playing up after the Tb restore...
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
hmm ok so that indicates that the contact was the problem, which makes it even harder to figure out... do you have more contacts that do this ?
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Not that I have come across yet!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
can you restore the one that was causing an issue ? cause I would not mind a dump from the database of that contact (minus number etc) just to see wtf could have caused this particular prob! :)

Oh and what version are you on ? playstore 174 or beta group 201 (or something) ?
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Do you mean restore from the latest backup?

I am on version 0.05.202
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yeah just to get that trouble contact back that SM has problems with, so the picture is not correct again. That way I could probably do a custom build to output some info on that contact to see if there is anything that I can see.

Cause a problem is not solved until it goes away with "intent and understanding" ;)
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
OK, done, contact has come back up and at the moment is showing the correct image.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
balls!!!
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
I've just changed the contact picture to the correct one but it hasn't updated in SM
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
SM wont update the cached lookups, but it should reflect changes when a message is received
[Android Apps and Games] dreamland2000:
Just got a msg sent through but the profile didn't update to show the correct pic lol
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if your on g+ you can chat to me on that, in realtime and will free this thread from this "possibly" quite long ongoing conversation :)

Just releasing a few more new betas too
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Smart Alert

Hi,

I don't know if it's related or not, but smart alert is not working for me when I receive a message. apart from the Led notification, there's no vibration when I take the phone.

Any idea?

Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Think you need to give me more info, version ? what settings ? is this a rule/filter that is controlling it ? Is the message actually received ?
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Does MMS work on this yet??
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
It's an option in the "Motion" settings, see screenshot. I don't know if it's only for Samsung or any Android device. Check your settings.

It's not a rule of SM but somehow when I receive a message and it's managed by SM, the device doesn't detect it as a missed event.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
no, but give me a week or 2 and yes :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I would highly suspect that is samsung + samsung messaging thing... it may work with apps that piggy back of the main sms database... SM doesn't due to some security features designed into it
[Android Apps and Games] Battleship:
Any way to block unwanted texts? I've gotten a few from an international number the last couple of days (not from anyone in my contacts, so presumably they were sent by mistake) and I couldn't find a way to block them. Maybe I just missed a setting somewhere.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
depends if you are on the playstore version 174 or the beta 212, if the latter then yes, if on the play 174 then not really till I promote the current beta.

If you are on 212 or above you have a number of options, including ability to search keyword,regex,wildcards etc on either the number or message content. I have spam filters for all these debt and ppi and insurance texts. Easy now to setup many match conditions to accurately filter these kinds of sh*t (that I hate!!! lots)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.05.214

(Staged Rollout)

* New improved and simpler "Filter System" (many more options actions/match conditions to come)

* new hide contact name and hide message options for filters

* new icons

* new contact widget Layout

* new options for sound and vibrate

* new notification action control for filters

* new option to limit contact widget to mobile only Search

* added options to control layouts including button placement in summary view

* more...
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
hmmm, latest version is a bit full of bugs, working my ass off to fix...few hours and should have a better version up
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Delivrey Status

Hi,

Since this last version, I'm not getting the delivery status, I have the "Sending" then the "Sent" but not the "Delivered" as I used to have on the previous version. The Delivery report is enabled in settings.

Anyone having that?

Thanks again for the nice App.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
RELEASE 0.06.244

* fixed theme format that created crash and size problems

* changed design of collections widget

* fixed defaults of notifications

* Changed quick image view to be dialog themed

* added theme related crash detector (for theme editing/mistakes)

* other bug fixes that users have reported (thanks)

* New improved and simpler "Filter System" (many more options actions/match conditions to come)

* new hide contact name and hide message options for filters

* new icons

* new contact widget Layout

* new options for sound and vibrate

* new notification action control for filters

* new option to limit contact widget to mobile only Search

* added options to control layouts including button placement in summary view

* more...

Things of note, the theme format is now human readable and ready for me either adding lots of themes, or creating an editor... each theme can also have user exposed settings defined, these can also be multi referenced things like a single color used in many items to make up other drawables etc. I will be enabling a few test themes for various purposes... can people report use and availability of these themes please :)﻿
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Report if it works or not on version 244.. will look into it if it doesn't!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.06.248

* added scroll indicator and touch panel of lists to be opposing side of "handed left/right" setting for less accidental scroll skipping

* fixed defaults notification,vibrate etc

* new sync system for themes, added force refresh

* new Contact action menu on summary view

* added ability to hide app title/header UI in a conversation (new view coming soon)

* fixed filter overrides for quick reply popup
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Still the same even with the latest version. The last status is "Sent" and not "Delivered".
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Have they ever worked in SM ? Do they work normally in other apps ? what country and carrier ? Cheers
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
REQUEST

If anyone is interested in testing MMS functionality for me, I have an early MMS build. If your available and dont pay for MMS on your contract, hit me up on hangouts or skype (contact details in the playstore listing)

cheers
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.06.250 (MMS test build)

* added ability to override discrete from/message text in a filter

* changed value match to strip spaces and "-" if in number mode

* Initial MMS test build (very early)

released to g+ beta group
[Android Apps and Games] brunoisa10:
Wow seems great
[Android Apps and Games] ruadus:
Yes it used to work before the 3 last version if I'm not wrong. Used to get the status updated in the sms as follow: sending, sent, delivered.