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[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Gday Dean,

This looks amazing! Subscribed.

Really diggin the scheduled msgs, clean and clever UI, rules and folders.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the following:

Can you tag/sort msgs? I realise there are folders, so this may be how they operate already. (tag examples: family, friends, work, favourites, etc. These could be searched, managed, filtered in specific ways). (eg: search for all msgs with FAMILY tag, for banking account details.)

'Failed to send' notifications? ie: notification/vibrate/play a noise when msg send fails (after certain period)? Currently some programs play a msg on successful send. I find this slightly annoying, as I don't want to have to listen for the noise. I'd prefer to only hear a noise/buzz/etc if the msg send failed.

Delayed send function? Whereby after submitting the msg, there are still a few seconds to (identify typos/errors and) edit the text and/or stop it from sending.

Really watching this closely - and kinda wanting to donate already .. I really want a super fast, intelligent txt app :p
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Hello

Can I also have an invite in order to play with this too.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I may have been sleeping :) Just woke up!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
tested from both standard options, and from rule/filters vibrate working fine and as expected... sure you dont have your phone on silent ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
OK this really sound like you have something else running/modding messages/notifications
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Well these are folders/messageboxes...call them tags if you will, cause there is no physical box, it just "tags" a message with a messabox name... so a filter + custom messagebox is probably what you want... I do like the idea of actual tags, where you could tag a message many times, like "family + like + dont lend money"

Failed notifications should be in there an active, after a number of tries, for sending, uploading or just any actions or even rules, SM will say it's giving up.. example if it detected that you were sending an auto reply to a contact that sent an auto reply back and that was a cycle, it would warn you and disable that rule, or if it simply could not send a message for 50 times I think, it should mark it's status as "something really went wrong" and ..... oooo..... maybe it doesn't notify you :) Ok thought it was in there...oh hang on... no it should... it would just say Action Failed, check action/events log

Delay send....hmmm.... ok
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
You should join the group.. on G+
[Android Apps and Games] lateral18:
no wait you might be right , i have an modded message htc app , to sense 5

i guess that's whats causing all the mayhem, let me get the stock one back , but i really like the blue bubbles and not the green ones from the older sense

ill get back to you in a few

should i uninstalled smart messenger to start clean ?
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Thanks for the explanation. As you understand, tagging (which can be have multiple vs folders which are singular - noting they perform different functions) would be fantastic :good:

Thanks for checking. An alert (audible/physical) of some kind would be my preference, but again, that's just me. Merely a suggestion. :)

Cool.

A prompt and encouraging reply. Awesome! :)

Where can I buy?! ;) (I've been wanting to get rid of my current messaging app for a while.)

(ps. And this is probably the last thing you want to include - understandably- any interest in integrating whatsapp msging system? I'm not a huge user of whatsapp., but do have the occasional contacts there.)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I'm about as far from a fan of things like whatsapp and other "free" mass messenger services... cause how do you think they make money ? :) So I have a total hate for them... but yes, if it were secured which I doubt, if it were private which I also doubt, and if no information from a user was shared other than a username ...which I also doubt then yeah :)

It's not out of the question... and currently SM is in beta and not available to purchase yet..
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
99% of time phone is on vibrate, just tested again and only works wen I set notification overrides under rules/filters
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
should work from either settings or rules...or does for me rather...

Anyone else confirm that with no rules and just settings, vibrate doesn't work ?
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Understood. Yea, I don't really use them either cos of similar concerns -just had to a few times, recently.

I realise it's still in beta/non-purchase. :cool: :highfive:

Is the beta stable enough to use as a daily app?

I'd be happy to use it and provide feedback as a taster. My only concern is about losing msgs/content. I also use MMS regularly, so this might be an issue for me given the apps' current feature set.

(Google+ join request sent)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if you have it as passthrough and enable storage of sent messages to stock... so stock msg app is up to date when you use sm, you can use it cause your safe... I will never say it will be ready as a daily until it's released.... but I know others who are using it an nothing else... I suppose I will be happier when I include online backups...

Yeah.. mms is on the cards, it's just not a standard accessible function of android... and comes with a mountain to climb... other apps just extend or use the stock msg or rip bit out of the stock + android system... I kind of want to not do that so much :)
[Android Apps and Games] lateral18:
i went back to settings , under notifications , even though ive selected a custom a sound , it goes back to silent

now with the stock app , running , i have less bugs

but still sometimes, it seems like smart messenger forgets the settings , i said it cuz . i have it set up to process and block , sometimes , when i new message comes in . i mean a new one other than the one i was on , when i selected the option (process & block) . they go to the inbox of the htc app too

thats all for now , i can say the freeze before and after receiving messages its gone

but there still is some random Fc's ,
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if they go to the stock app even in process and block that could be a sign of a processing error... see SM has a safety net, as in if when getting a message, anything goes wrong in processing or dealing with it... it exits and releases that message outward to the system to deal with.... so could still be issues.... and yes... looking at the sound now, some1 else pointed it out and it's on my immediate list along with the "BLUE" popup reply box lol :)
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Got the beta. Cheers :)

One more quick question...

Is it possible to add the ability to scheduled a msg from the main message creation screen (rather than only if started in the schedule msg screen)?

I often find myself drafting a msg only to decide that I want to send it in 20 mins rather than now (eg: to give that person enough time to complete the job, that I'm supposed to be reminding them about). Perhaps a swipe/slide/hold action on the sent button?

I'm not a programmer, so this is wishful thinking (and possibly unreasonably difficult), but can the following be done?:

Press send button = send now.

Hold send button and release = set custom send time. Open small, semi-simple time/date popup picker.

Hold and drag finger away from button then release = Send in x minutes. A small popups appears and displays x in realtime, where x is proportional to the distance the finger is from the hold location. Upon release, set to send in X minutes.

I'll start using the app and provide feedback where ever I can.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Dam I like the idea of delay send where you (press and hold send) (while still holding slide upwards, makes a minute scale appear) well, I soooo sooo want that now!! but unfortunately my funds for things like water and bread are too low for me to implement what I want, I need to finish what it needs so I can attempt to make some money so I can develop it further.. but hell yes thats possible and hell yes I want it now!!! But it will have to wait :) Remind me of that post release and if the app is doing well, I will implement it!
[Android Apps and Games] reddvilzz:
Can't wait for this app to be released on public :D. It looks the most awesome sms app here. Good luck :)

What do i need to join the beta? I am gladly to help the development.
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Haha, You're welcome. :)

Glad you liked the idea.

Two other things I'd lke to suggest:

1. A search box on the main screen. To find specific text within any/all msgs.

2. A tag type of Attachment - would require you to implement tags and could be processed by your rules system. Then you could run a filter/query to show only those msgs that have an Attachment.

Crash Report: Btw, I tried to use the Import Stock SMS function, but it only gets to about 200 before crashing. I've tried again, and it gets a little further, but still crashes. Not sure why. Should I send an error report?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
always send a crash report, the importer was a 5 minute hack job, cause it's not really supposed to be anything to do with stock messages... but I will fix if I get a nice informed report
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
1. I'm leaving search till just before release as I know the data structure wont change... and I can do quite a complex search :)

2. the SM db knows if there are, attachments, links etc already :)
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
No probs. Report sent.
[Android Apps and Games] lateral18:
With the last update , the notification sounds works , also the notification in the status bar works top, . But it's not working.100% of the time , but hat issue with me , can be my phone .

Now the app is crashing and freezing in the inbox menu. And also after sending a message , the app does freeze .

This is after a clean install ,

**** rebooted the phone , now it seems the notifications are working fine , no more hanging or freezing so far, i havent seen the pop up window yet
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Sounds like most of your issues are ... your phone... your rom..... your other apps ... I don't mean to pass the buck/blame... but most of the things thought the law of averages that are reported on the beta group are not issues you mention... so gotta conclude you need a new phone, new rom and less messaging/modded stuff
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
RELEASE 0.03.047b

possibly faster better import

better record handling of imported "ODD" messages from banks

fixed bugs on delete entire convos (all messages inc the ODD ones)

new dialog event system ... so some things that are dialog related may need updating that I have missed.. just yell and they should be quick fixes if you find them
[Android Apps and Games] Zephyr!:
Any possibilities of the application getting live on play store?

THANKS Button ✌

is there to save Thanks post indeed :D
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
It'll be launched when it's out of beta...
[Android Apps and Games] NorskHelgen:
Integration with Hangout would be nice, which would almost make it a counter iMessage for Android. This is something that Google has really dropped the ball with
[Android Apps and Games] lateral18:
A new ROM, but for the phone I have its only one , which is stock

It's weird , I havent mod anything, the ROM its as stock as it comes , well except with SU and busybox.

I'll flash the ROM again , if it continues them it's the phone :o

Thanks for the SM
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
I uninstalled and reinstalled.

New version is importing (currently up to 7917 msgs) and has not crashed! :)

I also noticed (before I uninstalled) that I had mutliple (actually of 4 each) Inbox/Important/Junk/Private boxes.Perhaps this was related to (or even caused) the issue.

One suggesiton for UX, could you add:

a) a progress bar/percentage bar/number imported in the notifications (that updates as the messages are importing)? or

b) simply a notification to say that the activity finished successfully or failed.

Looking Good :good:

EDIT: Completed importing 17310 msgs. And I see that it gave me a popup. Cheers :)

Processed: 17310

Actioned: 172259

Ignored: 0

What's the difference/meaning for Processed and Actioned?

It didn't place any msg into the Event processing btw. Was it meant to? I'd kinda like to see it there too.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
erm !!! Wtf!!!! ????? 172,259 ?????? !!!!!!
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Sorry, typo. 17,259. :silly:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
when core features are there, when there are no bugs, and when I feel features of it will be worth paying for... then I will promote a build from beta to production and it will be listed.

Have to decide how to actually make some money off it yet...not thought that much about it!
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Not a core feature... but possible
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if it is not a stock ROM, then it's custom :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Processed means it was considered, actioned means it was treated and imported, ignored means it was considered but actively said...nope, not importing this
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Ok. How can I check what those unimported msgs were? To tell if they were important or not.

What's the criteria by which the app choses to action or ignore?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
really simple... is it an SMS and is it already imported :)
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Haha thanks. Ok, so I'm guessing those others were MMS then. Which sounds about right :good:
[Android Apps and Games] r@inbov:
How can download this app? in g+? but i dont have any invitation !:crying: my gmail : trycatchexe01
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Request access to this G+ community https://plus.google.com/communities/112189155304763868016
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Also make sure that the G+ account is valid and has correct info and is tied to your play account... Also I'm in desperate need of beta testers ... not users!!! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.03.048b

﻿#fixed popup errors (reply, compose)

﻿#fixed popup styles
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
RELEASE 0.03.050b

# Scheduling fixes, now all working again

# few display fixes
[Android Apps and Games] towelboy:
Sorry I haven't been following along, any plans for MMS? or is it still deemed useless
[Android Apps and Games] J_Whit85:
Any way to get the invite to download this?

Sent from my SGH-T889
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
Pretty sure he'll be implementing that eventually.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
yeah, what Mac said, maybe after a full play release...but gonna try :)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
why dont you got to the group and request to become a beta tester....but look up what a "beta tester" is 1st ;)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
New Feature - almost ready

ok just about to maybe push a version with my "Blind Security concept" (or part of it "codes") bit of an interesting one this.... basically it works on a code system, that is actually blind, there is no association with code <--> function... but various things can alter based on codes... these codes can be codes I issue for you to enter to access deep info/debug stuff or you can even use them to lock "without a trace" elements such as rules/filters or messageboxes etc... Just putting some final touches to it

there is a warning that comes with this btw, if you decided lets say to blind hide a rule/filter and a messagebox that the filter passes to... IF YOU FORGET THE CODE, there is no way to tell where/what/how... blaa blaa... you would have to reset all data

oh and codes can be shared "cause they are blind" across elements, so 2 filters and a messagebox hide can have the same code and would be unlocked by it
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release : 0.03.051b

#fixes for service starts (not getting messages on reboot)

﻿#Code entry system

﻿#Blind Security added for messages,messageboxes,filters/rules

(options added to messageboxes and rules/filters to allow "blind" hide)

(revealed by code entry with long press on logo, either on main message screen or within the context of what is being shows)

NOTE : the timeout is not functional at the moment...but will be soon, there is an invalidate codes in the same menu for testing and override purposes
[Android Apps and Games] Ilxaot:
Okay I requested to join the beta group. Seeing as I can't find a spare apk lying around anywhere, looks like I'll have to play the waiting game! Ughh. This app reminds me of Timely somehow, and it seems absolutely amazing(: Best of luck matey(:
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
if by waiting game you mean while I sleep, then yes, you will have to wait till I'm awake :)
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
So deanwray I installed the app and there were no messages displayed. Had to go back to the stock app to see them. I rebooted the phone just in case and same thing. Not to mentioned that the launcher crashed!

My phone is HTC EVO3D running ICS 4.0.3. What do you make of this ?

Also does the beta version have ads ?
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
Did u import messages?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Did anyone send you any messages ? Or were you expecting this app to rely on the stock app.. cause this is standalone, not an addon.. but like "biz" said, there is an importer also..
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Release 0.03.054b

* Few important sending fixes and stability changes (fingers crossed)

* Theme system can now apply a theme (EXPERIMENTAL)

- New early Sensy theme

- No thumbnails yet

- Themes have not been updated for new tags, so anything other than the default will need fixes I would think, but I should be able to update them and they sync to the device without app updates
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Oh and no, the beta does not have any ads... why do you ask ?
[Android Apps and Games] saul1991:
Is there any way to get a download link with out joining the group??? I don't have a gplus
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
fraid not, it's all done through google play, and since I update the dam thing sometimes 3 times per hour ... no way can I maintain posting an apk and getting people to update ... sorry :(
[Android Apps and Games] saul1991:
Thanks anyway man but I tried joining and I get an error every time
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
What error?
[Android Apps and Games] saul1991:
Every time i click on join I get this
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Use a full browser...not a mobile
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
sorted ?
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
Didn't realize that you need to import first. I will try it then. Since you mentioned that this app is standalone does it mean that it will not work with MyPhoneExplorer app running on Windows PC ? To be more specific does SmartMessenger use the database in /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases or its own ?

I was asking about the ads cause I got a strange message about ads in the notification bar when I downloaded the app. Can't remember what was the exact message though.
[Android Apps and Games] Mac of York:
Sounds like you've got some malware on your system bro.
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
After applying different themes everything got bigger

v.61b
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
uses it's own, and yes that was just a test message I put in to detect ad blocks, just says you should really consider NOT using an ad blocker as this kills small development, like SmartMessenger or 100's of other apps
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I did say to the beta g+ group, and here, themes are ready to be applied, but not updated....if you read
[Android Apps and Games] blz_phnx:
Ah, my bad forgot
[Android Apps and Games] saul1991:
No not yet I sent the request to join the group but its still waiting
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
is it a valid profile, cause there are none waiting in the approval list, or was it some made up and/or nick name profile ?
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
Opinions request :

Is it important that any backup solution (if not encrypted) is in a form and formant that is "human" readable ?
[Android Apps and Games] Evil Genius Jr.:
I honestly wouldn't care much, as long as it works. Automatic backup would be pretty awesome too.
[Android Apps and Games] jtsv:
Totally agree! I used to use SMS backup but would always forget to back up then because it is always backed up began to use G***le V**** and the n I never have to worry but because it has limitations that this app doesn't I would rather have just ONE Messenger app then the 2 I have to use in case someone sends me a picture or a emojicon. Having to 12 iOS user's in my family verses the 3 droid user's I am always getting sent messages than I do not get because my DD is G****le V****.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
well I'm thinking of having the option to do big,single encrypted backups, but then maybe a rolling mirror to users gdrive, obviously the rolling mirror I would think would be human readable
[Android Apps and Games] Evil Genius Jr.:
That would be perfect... as long as restore from both is possible. I don't want to accidently wipe my phone(a stretch I know) and have all my messages in drive but not be able to get them on my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
whats the point of backup without a restore ?? :)
[Android Apps and Games] Evil Genius Jr.:
No idea lol, although ask that to all the mms backups which can't restore lol
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
That's cause android MMS is a mess...well and very over complrx
[Android Apps and Games] Xplorer4x4:
Put in a request to join the community like a week ago. Still haven't been accepted.
[Android Apps and Games] svortevik:
Started using this yesterday, and so far I really like this app.

I do have some things I`d like to point out:

- When typing in the standard signs for emotions it wont show an emotion but only the signs. I would like it if SmartMessenger automatically put inn a nice smiley for ":)" by itself instead of using a separate button to insert it.

- Most of my contacts is stored without country code. When I send a sms to a contact it wont group together with the reply I get since the reply includes the country code.

This is not an issue with other messaging apps I have tried.
[Android Apps and Games] sdeft:
This is a problem if I can not use MyPhoneExplorer client. Is there any way to overcome this ?

The problem with the test message is that it keeps coming up every time you run SmartMessenger. I just do not like ads in the

apps. If there are ads I simply do not use them or I buy the donate version. If an app is worth it I do not mind paying for it.
[Android Apps and Games] svortevik:
I found another thing that actually is a ig problem.

The counter on UCCW, NovaLauncher and other counters that keeps track of unread sms don`t reset until I read the messages in stock android messaging app.

If there is a workaround for this I will use SmartMessenger as my messaging app. Now it is really annoying that it shows unread messages when there actually isn't any, and I still want to use my widgets on my homescreen and lockscreen.

Please find a solution for this:)
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I don't control other apps... Stock messaging or nova. :( not sure what your asking
[Android Apps and Games] deanwray:
I only reject invalid fake profiles... Did you see it up correctly?
[Android Apps and Games] saul1991:
Same here dude I'll wait for it till its in the .market