yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

This can happen if the thread id's of the messages are not calculated properly. The most common cause is if the 'caller id' of the received messages doesn't match the number(s) of the contact or of the existing thread. Maybe one is in international format and the other is in local format. Maybe one has spaces in the number, and the other doesn't have spaces.

It can also happen if you use a different messaging app which calculates a different thread id from what 8sms would have calculated.

Unfortunately, it's very tricky to determine the actual cause.

Furthermore, once this happens, it may keep happening whilst there is more than one thread. In other words, after finding the cause and "fixing" it, you most probably need to also delete all the affected threads.

Hope this helps.

If you want, you can email me, and I can give you more specific instructions relevant to your specific situation.
[Android Apps and Games] lvtjul:
Hello,

Since the last released of 8sms, the icon on the app drawer is disappearing at each reboot. I noticed that it's only when I have the green icon instead of the blue one (option in parameters). Can you fix it?

And many thanks for your work ;)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

I've heard about this from a couple of other users through email as well. The problem is not 8sms.

It seems that there was a recent update to the Google Play Services app (or the Google Launcher or something like that) which has resulted in this behaviour. Looks like it doesn't like the dynamic icon technique that 8sms uses.

I'm still yet to investigate this fully, but it's possible I may not be able to work-around this in 8sms. I'll have to get back to you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hmmm ... I'm at a loss to think of a work-around or fix for this. It

looks like the Google launcher is deliberately removing the 8sms icon

... whether this is by design, or a bug, I don't know.

If I think of anything, I'll let you know, but for now ... I'm not

sure if there's much I can about it.
[Android Apps and Games] AlpineMan:
I'm using Apex Launcher, this disappearing icon isn't happening on my Verizon Note 3.
[Android Apps and Games] lvtjul:
well it's not a big deal ;) U might just remove the option to be sure that nobody encounters this problem :good:
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
It only happens for the Google launcher on Nexus/Android KitKat, so I think that's where the 'bug' is. It doesn't happen for other launchers.
[Android Apps and Games] repulse:
Great job, but any workaround to use it on Moto G (without FC'ing) and without keeping stock sms app ?
[Android Apps and Games] Bruce1988:
Great app! Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I don't think there can be one.

On some Motorola phones, it seems that Motorola has moved some system code (used for sms) into the Motorola stock messaging app. So you can't remove it, otherwise any app that tries to send sms will crash.
[Android Apps and Games] winamp26:
hi

i install this app on my Gnex with ShinyRom and works fine.

tnx for hard working
[Android Apps and Games] infectedorganism:
For those who use a ROM with 'less frequent notification sounds', is it working correctly with this app?

I've set notifications to sound off only every 15 seconds and while it works correctly with other messaging apps, it hasn't worked correctly with 8sms -- I'm just trying to narrow down this "bug" and see if others are experiencing this issue.
[Android Apps and Games] Commies:
I'm sure you guys know this but the main post says GS3 might not work and to post if it does. Works great for me so there ya go.
[Android Apps and Games] winamp26:
I install on aosb 1.3.6-4.4.4.

I when send MMS but couldn't send and auto enable my data connection.

I set MMS setting to my carrier MMS setting.

I think that's ROM cm based.

Any body have issus with this ROM.

Can you solve it for Aosb ROM?

Sent from NEXUS³
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
For those affected by this issue, I have a posting with information and a temporary work-around:

http://8s.ms/launcher-icon-removed-home-screen-google

I'm not aware of this 'less frequent notification sounds' feature nor how it works, but I would be happy to provide any information about 8sms which can help diagnose the issue.

Maybe have a look here:

http://8s.ms/cant-send-or-receive-mms

and also, double check your MMS settings?
[Android Apps and Games] winamp26:
i see that but i cant send MMS yet.

:(

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EDIT:

after install v1.37.2-googlefix and reconfig my carrier APN i can send MMS

thank u for hard working
[Android Apps and Games] lvtjul:
Thanks, will try that ;)
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Is Android Wear supported? I plan on picking up a Gear Live watch soon, please support Android Wear! TIA man!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Uh, not yet, but when you get the watch, let me know and I'd be happy to add support for it. I'd just need your assistance with testing though.
[Android Apps and Games] marl1234:
Cool, trying app now
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Going to my local Best Buy tomorrow and hopefully they have it in stock!
[Android Apps and Games] AndyPOZ:
Intelligent Unicode

Great app!

Only one request: Would it be possible to add an option called "intelligent Unicode"? That means that Unicode characters are not stripped unless they need to be. If stripping has no effect on the number of SMS sent (message shorter than ~70 characters), there is no point in doing it.

Besides that this app is awesome! Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Noted and it would be an improvement. However, it's also very very minor and I'm doubtful when I would get around to it. I hope you understand.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Android Wear support for 8sms

[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION] I'm getting my Gear Live Android Wear watch tomorrow/Friday what can I do to help to get Android Wear support?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
After you get the watch, email me (at the developer email address of 8sms). At some point, I'll likely have to send you debug versions of 8sms to test with.

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
I will be getting it either tomorrow or Monday!

Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
[Android Apps and Games] Echelonex:
Anyone knows whats the problem...? Started showing up few days ago... It happenes randomly too and ussualy dissapears after 1 second.

Im using Nexus 4 with Kitkat 4.4.2 and 8Sms v 1.37
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
Just got the watch and emailed you at: support@8s.ms !
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Interesting, I've never seen that before.

Can you try clearing the 8sms app cache:

http://8s.ms/clearing-8sms-app-cache

and rebooting your phone?
[Android Apps and Games] m0h1t:
Is there anyway to delete a message directly from its notification message?

I can see three icons right now: reply, mark read, and call, but no delete icon.
[Android Apps and Games] beautifulsun:
is it safe to freeze the stock messaging app with titanium?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Currently, no, sorry.

Generally, yes.

However, on some Motorola phones you can't remove the stock messaging app, otherwise any app that sends sms (including 8sms) will crash. Whether freezing also causes this, and whether this affects your phone (if you have a Motorola phone), you'd have to test.

If you freeze the stock messaging app, and you are using Android Jelly Bean, then you probably need to enable Stand-alone mode in 8sms.
[Android Apps and Games] beautifulsun:
Tested (Galaxy Note 2 N7100 with SlimKat 4.4.4) and no problem.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
New 8sms beta version 1.37.3 with Android Wear support

Hi all,

I have just released a beta version 1.37.3 of 8sms with Android Wear support. This is available only on the website and not on Google Play.

If you want to try this new version, either for testing, or because you want to see what's coming up, feel free to download 1.37.3 from:

http://8s.ms/download/releases/8sms-1.37.3.apk

http://8s.ms/download/releases/8sms-1.37.3-googlefix.apk

Changelog: http://8s.ms/changelog

(Use the -googlefix version if you use a Nexus phone or a Google app launcher on your phone.)

Thank you,
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
Where would I find that? The rom I am using for tmoble allows the stock messaging to send mms over wifi
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
The post you quoted is a little old.

I've since had some success getting 8sms to send mms over T-Mobile's Wifi Calling.

See:

http://8s.ms/cant-send-or-receive-mms

in the section "Wifi calling".

Essentially, the problem is regarding authentication to T-Mobile's mms server. This is performed by a system component on the ROM. Some ROMs authenticate 8sms with no additional effort. Some other ROMs require that 8sms is a system app before authentication is allowed.

You'd just have to test on your ROM yourself and see.
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
Sorry about the old msg :x and how can i install it as a system app?

Got it to work, awesome ty :)
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Please search using Google and XDA for how to install apps as a system app. There are already excellent replies that exist, and I don't want to re-hash the same content.

> Got it to work, awesome ty

Did you have to install 8sms as a system app, or did it "just work out of the box" for you?
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
I had to install as a system app :)
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
Next update and still now gui changes :(
[Android Apps and Games] simon_lefisch:
What GUI changes are you expecting? Its based off AOSP messaging app. Not a lot of change there....

BTW [MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION], I've been using this app for some time now and love it! AOSP messaging a great but having a dark theme to it is even better. I will make sure to leave a 5 star review on the play store. Thanks much [emoji106][emoji16]
[Android Apps and Games] haxy89:
Options to disable contact picture and messages count.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonballz:
Hello , I have a request, could you change the color of the banner in white theme , gray color as hangouts ?

I will attach two screen capture so that you better understand my request .
[Android Apps and Games] phalkon30:
http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/index.php?/topic/7233-MMS-&-Apn-Question

It seems that users on US cellular with the galaxy s5 have MMS issues on 8sms. If MMS (including group text) is sent or received while roaming or not on 4G, it will peg the cpu and flash a toast that there is no APN specified.

Workaround is to go back to stock messenger and reboot, or sometimes to wait until back in home service. I did not have this issue on my s3.

Thoights on what we can try? Several people have reproduced the issue on stock rom, APN pictures in linked thread

Sent from my SM-G900R4
[Android Apps and Games] infectedorganism:
I linked some commits awhile ago that disable the avatar/contact picture. I'm not sure if they are applicable with 8sms, but hopefully they provide a quick solution to that feature request.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Can you email me please (at the registered developer email address of 8sms)?

I'd like to investigate this, separately from this thread, as I think it will get a bit technical, and I may have to build a debug version of 8sms or two to help with diagnosis.

Thanks,

Beng
[Android Apps and Games] szpuntoo:
Please add this feature, avatar icon letter, like dialer from KK 4.4.4 :)
[Android Apps and Games] vyp54:
Awesome app! It has everything the stock app doesn't. It also recognises enter behaviour as next line not send on some keyboards.

I made this system app and deleted the stock messaging.
[Android Apps and Games] donthateme702:
I have on zte source cricket cdma,and can't get mms to work at all.tried everything and its latest version,could you help me out,love the app!

Sent from my ZTE_N9511 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Sorry, I don't know what the mms settings for Cricket are. Please try asking your network provider or search the Internet. Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] nigeldr:
Custom SMS Alert Tone for Contact - Nexus 5 using stock 4.4.4

I've modified a contact to have a custom ring tone however 8sms still plays the default ring tone when I receive a sms from this contact. Is the custom ring tone not available for received SMS's

Using Nexus 5 running Stock 4.4.4
[Android Apps and Games] Azhero:
Working on Samsung Galaxy Y GT S5360 with CM11.0 nightly installed!!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
For those affected by this, there is an update here:

http://teamuscellular.com/Forum/topic/7233-mms-apn-question/#entry137910

It is available if the rom supports it. For example, the Samsung rom supports it.

I'm not aware that the Nexus 5 rom has such support.

How are you modifying the contact to have a custom ring tone? Through the Android "People" app? Or some other way?
[Android Apps and Games] nigeldr:
Updated using the Android people app
[Android Apps and Games] winamp26:
can you add hangouts icon and show in launcher 1 icon?
[Android Apps and Games] luisblop:
[REQ] Bigger size of emoticons in floating pick window

[MENTION=5181263]bengtan[/MENTION]

Hi,

First of all, I'm very pleased with this app, light, simple and useful options.

I would like to ask you if you could make bigger the size of the emoticons inside the floating window. In little screens <4.3"" is a bit difficult to pick the right emoticon even with normal fingers.

[IMG="Emoticon floating window"]https://lh3.ggpht.com/Q8ikL8GS-33xR4gIsB8xXH1PFuL7fBRdwiigoR8oP4ShAuwTvhC9a8lRl2nRCDlggB5t=h900-rw[/IMG]

Thanks in advance.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Okay. Can you email me please (using the registered developer email address of 8sms)? I'd like to investigate a bit more, and it's possible I may have to send you development versions of 8sms to test with. Thanks.

Noted, but low priority. Thanks.

Noted too. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] luisblop:
[REQ] Add notification option: "Grouped by conversation"

Another idea to improve the user experience with notifications!

Suggestion: Add a new notification option "Grouped by conversation".

Currently when getting new messages from different conversations, 8sms (as most sms apps) gathers all messages in a single notification. This mode saves space but we lost the useful notification action icons: Mark as Read, Reply and Call.

Then a great addition in settings would be a new option to group the notifications by conversation and that way we could preserve the notification actions for each conversation. Actually I can already reproduce this idea with the app sms notifier though it can group only by phone number (last screenshot below).

What for? Well, first of all is very practical and no doubt one differentiating thing I love in 8sms are the notification actions. Second, nowadays lot of android users incorporate apps that display and allow interaction with the notifications from their lockscreen which makes a convenient way to stay update. For instance NiLS and AcDisplay among many and I'm sure that the notification actions are key to save time and be more reactive.

To illustrate this idea. Here are some screenshots of the notification drawer and NiLS in my lockscreen:

Current scenario with 8sms. If there are new incoming messages from different conversations then they are all put together in one single notification item without any action icon.

[IMG="Current scenario. Mix notification"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/64mcC9XvMEmEeOjOK3A5MaMRVrGAODJLutdJsfOSKjf270HNRT0upw=s600[/IMG]​

New option to group the incoming messages by conversation and keep available the action icons for each conversation notification (example using sms notifier):

[IMG="New option grouped by conversation option"]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/uxBH8BOtcC286AUfzjFWsqpreSWGcvYI_K9dw3jhtOcKnc_tmeZnLQ=s600[/IMG]​

I hope you like the suggestion.

Keep the nice work!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
I don't mind the suggestion, but unfortunately, it's a lot of work which I don't have time for. I have bazillion other things in front of the queue. Sorry.

Maybe some time in the far far future when I have lots more free time :)
[Android Apps and Games] luisblop:
Totally understandable. I just would like to ask you to keep the suggestion in your future ideas list, please.

It's already a great app.
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
Just to chime in ... I recently upgraded to a Galaxy S5 with my carrier (Sprint) in the USA. I am so far seeing zero problems. MMS and SMS both work like a champ using this device in every scenario I've tried so far. Even the new Sprint WiFi calling. Very impressed.

Thanks for all your work, Beng.

I hope people are using that donate button you buried in the "About" section.
[Android Apps and Games] simonkain:
Oh Great~
[Android Apps and Games] vikasb32:
[MENTION=225651]op[/MENTION] it is possible to add notification privacy setting for individual thread.like i want no msg content in notification for only 1 thread and for other thread show msg content in notification.thanks for a great app i am using in since i bought my moto g.
[Android Apps and Games] TiVa:
Awsome that I can have CyanogenMod sms app back after I bought a S5, but when you launch the app it takes a second to open... Which is kinda wierd on a smartphone like the galaxy s5. 8sms is the slowest starting app on my phone. Any idea's why that is and what can be done about it?

Otherwise an outstanding app!
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
No, there isn't such an option, sorry.

Adding per-conversation settings would be a significant chunk of work, and it's not something I see being high priority in the near future.

Yeah, some people have mentioned this, but I haven't been able to really nail this down.

When I get people to help me, and I give them development versions that print timing information to the logs, the data looks fine and doesn't suggest anything unusual.

One thing that may make 8sms appear to be slow is ... that android:windowDisablePreview is set to true.

With many other (messaging) apps, Android shows a preview of the app before the app is actually ready to run.

With 8sms, I've disabled the preview (because it could cause a "white flash" at startup). This can make it seem like 8sms is taking a while to start up, but it's only a cosmetic difference because you aren't seeing the app preview.

What you need to compare (if comparing against other messaging apps) is the duration between first launching the app and the conversations being fully loaded, displayed, and ready. In my experience, this is about the same.

Anyway, I've fluffed on a lot ...

If you (or anyone else who reads this) think you are experiencing this issue, and you know how to retrieve logs out of your phone (ie. "logcat"), I would be happy to run some timing tests on your phone. Please email me (at the registered developer address of 8sms).
[Android Apps and Games] simon_lefisch:
Its not really that slow to load. I see/have no prob with the app.
[Android Apps and Games] TiVa:
You are probably right that it's the same, but it feels laggy without the app preview :) I switched to slide SMS for now as I want the S5 to respond quickly (or atleast look like it's doing that) but I will try to make some logs later on!
[Android Apps and Games] Mr.Its:
Up navigation in the settings seems to be broken in 1.39.2. For example it's either missing in most screens or it takes you back to the wrong screen e.g. click to list your SMS templates and then press back via up navigation and it'll take you to the main menu rather than the previous screen.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
In (beta) 1.39.2, I restructured the 8sms settings to have "subscreens" instead of "categories".

The navigation within the settings is handled by Android, not 8sms. There is no "up" navigation that I'm aware of ... there is only "back" navigation (unless you use "up" to mean the same as "back"), and "back" navigation works for me.

Are you able to clarify what you mean and give me more information (ie. phone and version of Android)? Or else, maybe email me ... it might be easier to resolve through email.
[Android Apps and Games] JoeFCaputo113:
How do we beta test!?
[Android Apps and Games] DurhamHusker:
I have an S5 and I would agree that its really not that slow to load. It may be slightly slower than other apps, but its barely perceptible on my device. I'm not having any problems.

Beng, when I get around to rooting this thing I'll be more than happy to provide timing info.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
8sms BETA versions

Beta versions of 8sms can be found on the 8sms website downloads page:

http://8s.ms/download

http://8s.ms/download/releases

Anyone is welcome to give them a try if they wish. Just keep in mind that these are beta releases, and sometimes there may be bugs or changes that may not stick around.

To be notified of new releases, you can also subscribe to the 8sms releases rss feed:

http://8s.ms/download/releases/rss.xml

Thank you.
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Hi,

Sure, but there's no rush.

I'm mainly interested in testing and assistance from those who have 8sms installations that seem slow to start. For most users, there's likely nothing unusual to see.
[Android Apps and Games] Mr.Its:
http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/ancestral.html

See the "<" next to the icon at the top left? That's up navigation. It's not working correctly because you don't handle the parentActivityName.

Because you changed from PreferenceCategory to PreferenceScreen Android won't handle this itself, so it now loses track of where it should be. If you're lucky you can fix it via the app's manifest file, otherwise you've created a lot more work for yourself by making the menu how it is since you now need extra translations as well as code to handle up navigation correctly.
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
Is there a way the 8sms icon can accept custom themes from unicon?
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
The Settings section of 8sms is one single multi-level Activity. Hence, there's no need for a separate parentActivityName for the "subscreens" (which are implemented as PreferenceScreens) ... in fact, there is no such thing.

From the testing that I've done, when I'm in a 8sms Settings subscreen, I've never seen the "<" next to the top left icon.

Not that I'm aware of, no ... unless unicon has some magic.
[Android Apps and Games] SovPanda:
Can't get the 8sms icon themed like the rest of my apps, can you add the sony messaging icon as a low priority in your list to do?
[Android Apps and Games] Mr.Its:
Here's the stable version of 8sms:

Some screen's don't have up navigation because of how they're created. For example the message limits screen or the advanced screen. Both can though if you set it up to handle it.

Just look at Gmail's settings or even the Android settings menu. It all has up navigation. Even EvolveSMS with it's layered settings menu has fully working up navigation.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...n-not-functional-with-nested-preferencescreen

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21440685/show-up-button-in-actionbar-in-subscreen-preferences

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14190713/show-up-back-button-on-android-nested-preferencescreen
[Android Apps and Games] bengtan:
Noted, thanks.

> Some screen's don't have up navigation because of how they're created.

I agree. The screenshots you have provided are screenshots of distinct activities, so there is "up" navigation.

Most of the preference subscreens in the 8sms settings are not distinct activities so there is no "up" navigation.

I don't consider this lack of "up" navigation a big enough issue that I would spend time on it. It's just the way multi-level PreferenceActivity's are written (in Android).