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[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
My only argument against that is that for every thousand downloads of GApps today, there's less than 1 download of GApps Remover. That means that less than 1/10 of 1% (.001) of PA GApps users are using an external config file. That tells me that even though the option will exist, most users won't be aware of or they'll be intimidated by having to use an external config file with their GApps.

EDIT: I still haven't voted myself. The truth is I could go any of the 5 choices depending on how I feel at a given moment.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TulsaDavid:
Voted option #1. My request for an ultra-minimal offer was strictly due to partition limitation, and I wasn't aware of a presumed "Google-Free" whining issue until you paragraphed your reluctance and (seemingly) relegated this to some prejudged phobia. Perhaps my attesting that this is nowhere related may help alleviate your presumption. Thanks.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] RoryB:
Haven't voted yet, but remember it has to stay fun for you and not become a chore. Otherwise, you might get burned out.

I do not flash much lately, but when I do, yours is the go to GApps.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
There was no presumption (on my part) based on anyone who has voiced a preference for a small GApps package. That, clearly, was not my intention with my post. It's a perfectly fine and reasonable choice to just simply desire a small GApps package. My post was not meant to offend anyone. It was only to make clear my reasons for considering the change.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TulsaDavid:
Likewise on good intention and good will. The "Tin Foil Hat Brigade" brought curiosity, but nothing akin to offense. Appreciate your effort spent in discussing this, which confirms good intention all around. Must have been some serious whining on people's part about being Google-free. I missed that fun, obviously (lol). Again, thanks.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
Fair point, though I think the guys who really want pico would certainly be willing. There's always the idea that you could consolidate your zips into size groupings and provide "preset" files that give the enduser the finer-grained packages they want. So many options with shell. ;)

Edit: Brainstorm! Where is that fellow who did the AROMA package? Maybe he could script an AROMA front-end for creating the preset files! It could contain the basic presets, or allow complete fine-tuning, then push the file to the correct location for the GApps zip to find. :cowboy:

Edit 2: Regardless of the above ideas, I also think it'll make a big difference once it's not a separate after-the-fact remover, but a built in function that prevents the installation in the first place, since that's what the limited partition size people need. :) :good:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Rickav:
I say we get Larry Page to handle GApps maintenance for a week... God knows he should feel the pain of catering to all these full, micro and pico packages malarkey he is (supposedly) in charge of...

Having said that completely irrelevant and obselete sentence above, I'm currently using the GApps Remover (I'm in the top 10%... Young'un Joey would be proud) and there I have added the names of everything except for Gmail (needed for handling widget notifications) from the Micro package. In all likelihood, my Note 2 could handle the full package but, honestly, I use 3rd party alternatives for almost every Google other app. Why? Google will steal my personal details/dog/passwords/my mother/private information?

Nae.

I find the uniformity of most Google apps limiting. Some are, definitely, better than others. But, in general, my alternatives just seem to work better for my needs.

GMail - SolMail

Calendar - Today Calendar & Agenda

Hangouts - Sliding SMS

Chrome - UC Browser

Drive - Copy

Gallery - Quickpic

Music - PowerAmp

QuickOffice - WPS Office

A list of my main alternatives. Some are free, others not. Again, I was not aware of this "Overlord Google will steal my baby". For me, it's a thing of preference. I prefer to approach my phone in an utilitarian manner leaving very little to stay unused/without my knowledge.

And, I believe, some others may have a similar preference. Having said that, I'll probably be staying with Micro (has that godforsaken Gmail that handles mail notifications just too well to be dismissed). Others who may not need Gmail might want something even smaller to be appropriate for them. This "Pico" you mention, might be right up there alley.

So far, I like your approach to it. Open-minded but, clearly, not ecstatic about supporting yet another package (no matter how simple, you say, maintaining it might be). I think the "no btiching about Google" clause is a good call. Threatening to stop support for other packages seems, somewhat, uncalled for but probably understandable from your perspective.

I realise this turned into a rant about far too many words. So before, [/rant] kicks in, I say you could give Pico a go for, say, a fortnight test and see how the response is. Too much negativity; shut it down. Healthy acceptance; why not, Zoidberg?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] drlenny:
There's a little more to it than that. You don't update the remover nearly as often as the regular gapps package. Your statistics may be skewed by users like me who download the remover one for each device and then download all the gapps updates sometimes multiple times per device.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TheDannemand:
I voted "3 - Maybe".

I've been a happy user of the bigger PA Gapps packages for a long time, using both the Advanced Options and Remover -- with hardly any problems ever. But I actually think it DOES make sense to have a minimalist package at the opposite end of the spectrum from Stock.

My biggest concerns are:

A) That the Banks users will continue to... well, hijack the thread with very particular demands (as has continued to happen, even after TKruzze said in no uncertain terms that Pico wasn't going to happen here) and with discussions of package customizing (which also is a clearly stated no-no for this thread). We already had more than enough traffic from users who refuse to read, so also now adding traffic from what seems to be highly discriminate Gapps users, does concern me. TKruzze goes out of his way to make Gapps a simple business for users. I've read every post in this thread, but having to keep reading another 30 pages a week just to keep up, is a little more than I would like.

B) My biggest concern is that TKruzze will get tired of it all because of everything mentioned under (A). I would much rather that he (and osm0sis) spend their time updating and maintaining Gapps instead of answering endless streams of questions and requests in the thread.

I apologize if this came off as very grumpy. Again, I DO think having a minimalist package makes a lot of sense, assuming its users can join the silent majority of happy Gapps flashers here.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
It's all TKruzze still, for the record, I'm just a hired gun for occasional shell script fixes/optimizations, updates, and help. ;)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TheDannemand:
In addition to that you're handling much of the thread traffic, allowing TKruzze to focus more on development.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
Thanks! Gotta say zadigre has been picking up a lot of the slack lately too while I've also been busy. Great to see other knowledgeable users contributing. :)

Haha I'd love to post a different "reading" meme daily, but I wouldn't want to degrade the quality of the thread that much. :p
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] twobats1:
I'm just amazed at how many can complain without any of them doing it themselves! Like it or leave it!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TheDannemand:
Yes, yes, absolutely. In fact many members have been great at that during the lifetime of this thread. Admittedly I am mostly a user here myself, and not a contributor :o
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] fubo73:
Hi [MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION], I tried using latest PA-GApps remover with .gapps-remove file you provided to go from nano to "pico". The script runs ok claiming that it found the file in proper folder and that it removed packages. But when I boot up again I still find files there. What am I doing wrong?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] apatal:
I will waive my voting rights. I still think TKruzze can decide on what to do for his personal project. He has no obligation to me or to any other user. He has a life (and probably a less stressful one) outside xda. If he decides to leave and be done with it I'll support it 100% too.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] rhen84:
I own a Huawei G300 phone and maintain a GApps package for this device.

It is based on Your mini than micro and now on the nano package.

I only delete (compared to nano) the Google Search (Now) and offline speech recognition files and replaced the Play Services to the one matching for the device (The one in the nano package is too big for the /system partition).

I can tell that I only left 2MB of free space on /system after this.

If you make this "pico" package it may make my package unnecessary.

So I'm glad if you do it the way that I can use the "pico" without modification.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] zadigre:
... and I'm just a regular user here... I'm trying to help where I can to show my appreciation of everyone's work on those GApps packages...

all "experienced" users can do the same... it's not that hard...
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] DsturbD:
the only reason i wanted and used Banks minimal gapps is so i could install the google apps i wanted. wasnt about the privacy, i have no issue with that. i just dont like zips full of stuff im not ever going to use (faceunlock, genie widget, etc) and since you left faceunlock out of the nano package, no need for me to use anything else (except for the fact i need a multi-dpi version on slimrom)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] dannyella:
Meh..i'm okay with any package that doesn't replace AOSP apps with Google variants. Nano is best suited for me as Google now is required to be installed as system app for "Ok Google Everywhere" to work, a feature I use a lot. I'm just glad someone updates these Gapps.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] hanschke:
YouTube v5.10.1.5

http://ul.to/hfatom88
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Ghandour:
hey ...

I have PAC rom can I use this GAAPS ??

:eek: :rolleyes:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] hamid3173:
Why not?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
[MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION] Finally getting to checking out current Omni compatibility with (my secret) updated Google Email Add-On Module. ;)

I'll keep everyone posted.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Rapper_skull:
What's the difference with the old one?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
First of all, it exists. :p

Also there was a new build of Google Email since the module was discontinued and I added the latest Google Exchange Services from the L Previews for the hell of it. Been running it for months on Carbon maguro with no issues, but the reported problems were on Omni, so I'm loading it all into MultiROM on my flo to see if anything's been resolved in the interim.

I'm doing 3 test cases:

a) completely clean install of ROM + Stock GApps + Remover + Play Services + Email Module without booting before flashing GApps;

b) clean ROM install, then booting once, then Stock GApps + Remover + Play Services + Email Module; and if both of those work fine,

c) taking Remover out of the picture to see if it killing the default Email app before the Module flash makes any difference (shouldn't). :good:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] ronton01:
Hey guys,

I'm using Probam ROM v 1.37. I used the full modular gapps package along with the rom. For some reason, all my paid apps like poweramp and nova launcher are failing on license verification.

What could be the reason for this? I've tried searching and searching but to no satisfactory result. I even switched roms and tried a different gapps package. I've even tried not restoring from Helium and directly doing a fresh install from the play store. Still no use.

Does anyone know the issue here? How to fix it? Help would be greatly appreciated!:good::laugh:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] shawnbrennan55:
Sounds like your "Device Hostname" changed when you flashed a new ROM. I've had that happen several times. Titanium Backup usually catches the problem and asks to revert to the original hostname, then reboots.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] ronton01:
Hmm.. Yes, it's happened to me once before as well. But I stopped using Titanium Backup a while back. I now use Helium.

Would the solution then be to backup everything into TB as well and then reflash and see if it catches the "Device Hostname" error so it can revert it?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] shawnbrennan55:
If you know the original hostname you can change it manually from the "Developer Options" section in "Settings". I also highly recommend TB over Helium if you are changing ROMs frequently.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] ronton01:
I can see that option in the Developer settings.. but I don't know my original hostname. I tried changing it to GT-N7100 but no use. Would reflashing with Titanium Backup work? How can I get back my original hostname? Before I changed it to GT-N7100, it was a mixture of letters and numbers.

Again, thanks so much for all your help!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] ejkeebler:
I'm not saying this is not your problem, but I change my hostname under developer settings all the time, like literally dozens of times, and I've NEVER had an app complain of licensing. At the same time I usually just redownload the apps I want and don't restore them from TB.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
I can happily report it all worked! :D

For (c) I just did (b) over again without Remover. I also tested to make sure it all survived, working, following a Delta update and full dirty flash, and a reboot or two. All still working perfectly. :good:

[MENTION=2777334]TKruzze[/MENTION] I see no reason not to give it another shot? I can post my test zip if you want to do a bit of a "beta". :cowboy:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] viniciusrsouza:
Great news, guys! New Hangouts 2.3 version with material design and voice integration is out! :D

Hangouts 2.3 Update Brings Remaining Google Voice Integration And A Big Visual Overhaul [APK Download]:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...integration-big-visual-overhaul-apk-download/

And go straight to Play Store to get Hangouts Dialer from Google!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer

Everything working great here! _o/

Edit: Not everything anymore. Still can't see other people when video only. Only others can see me... =/

Anyone running CyanogenMod 11 can use Hangouts video call without issues?!
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] JJGLive:
Please tell me if this is the completely wrong place?slash section to ask this.

I have two things bothering me:

1. Whenever trying to create the file ".gapps-stock" to prevent the to PREVENT the removal of the stock/AOSP Launcher, MMS App, Browser, or Pico TTS, I recieve an error message/popup. I have tried using ES file Explorer and using my Laptop running Ubuntu.

2. Whenever trying to open Google Play Newsstand after latest PA gapps update, it force closes. After the FC I can open it with no problem. As soon as clearing recents I get FC when trying to launch app. Newsstand widget also refuses to load. Please tell me if anybody has some more info on this problem eg. if it may be a problem with the app only and not PA gapps.

I am using a Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9505.

Liquidsmooth v3.2 ROM

Alucard kernel.

I have tried different ROMs and same problem.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Yeti47:
Believe it is caused by the Android ID, not the hostname. That is what TB always resets everytime I flash a new ROM...

Links your apps to your device I believe...
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] chewdaniel:
pls bring all this unrelated discussion elsewhere, guys. :)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] clevebb:
Is there anyway to update only the changes involved in the packages instead of downloading the entire package? Specifically, something similar to zsync possibly.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] GatoL0c0:
Well the title of the thread does say "ALL ROMS"... :confused:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] hanschke:
I got a GoogleTTS update. interesting?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Rapper_skull:
From the technical point of view, what's the difference? What was causing issues?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
TKruzze never mentioned it here that I saw, just cited issues with Omni when he took down the module. I assume he was getting hammered with PMs about it. :rolleyes: :(

Anyway, take-home message is that it all worked for me now. So either they (Google or Omni) fixed it, or there was some usererror involved before. :good: :)
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] airbeeting:
i have nano pa gapps installed, and i have a problem with contacts sync. ROM cm11 last nightly. any with this problem? [emoji24]
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] kalpik:
Hope hangouts dialer will also be included in all packages that have hangouts in the coming update?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] TKruzze:
First of all, I did have a glaring omission in the '.gapps-remove' file I posted a few days ago. I left out the work "Search", which would have removed Google Search. If that's the files you were seeing, then the updated version I posted below should fix it for you. If it doesn't, please post the files that you believe are in question.

View attachment BaNkS_Minimal_Removals.zip

I have no problem giving it another shot. Feel free to post a beta and if the feedback is positive, I'll make it an official beta for widespread testing. The only request I'd have is to not use apk's from the L preview as I am not comfortable using pre-release versions of any app in these GApps. Thanks, again, for taking this on!

You say you receive an "error message/popup", right? What does it say? To be honest, it sounds more like a ROM issue, but if you provide more information (see FAQ #5) you might get better assistance.

It's certainly possible, and I've even done it on occasion. However, that would greatly increase the amount of work I'd have to do, since it would be in addition to updating GApps. I'm not inclined to do so at this time.

It was clear from the reports being posted that OMNI had done some things in their ROM that made the Google Email app not function properly. I figured if there were issues there, they'd probably be elsewhere, too. So, I took the easy way out and abandoned the project. :)

Perhaps if you explained what the problem was, you might get some assistance. It's not a GApps related problem, though, as the ContactSync app hasn't really changed since June.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] JJGLive:
On ES file explorer it is more like a toast messege that states: "Operation failed! Please try a different name" and on my PC it says "internal error. Could not complete task"

I have tried on many different ROMs, AOSP and TouchWiz, and I get the same outcome on both my phone and PC.

If neccesary I can list all the ROMs.

And newsstand widget still hasn't loaded since my first post.

Thank you for the reply.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] fubo73:
Thanks. Yesterday I had some time to play with your remover package and added some debug, so I discovered it by myself. I noticed also that BkSync is not removing anything. Am I right?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] airbeeting:
I have 1284 contacts in "gmail" and i have 1275 contacts in "nexus 4". I have two gmail accounts in my nexus 4, and both have sync problems.

I believe that some field is giving me some contact sync problem.

Thanks.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Fat_boy555:
Do you have emojis saved in the contacts?? Emojis cause sync problems.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] osm0sis:
PA GApps - Google Email Module - 4.4.x - 20140618 (Beta)

You got it boss! :D

Everyone interested please put the attached file through its paces! I've been using it for months but we'll pretend it's beta quality for the sake of testing expectations. ;)

I rolled back the Exchange2Google.apk to that of the last Factory Images, per TKruzze's request.

Special focus should be on Omni users from a variety of devices, since that's where the old one apparently had issues. If you do run into any problems, please give a thorough bug report including what went wrong, how to reproduce it, your device, ROM, Android version and revision (nightly #, etc.), and a recovery log from when you flashed the Email Addon if you can find it. (It should be in /cache/recovery/, where there should be 5-10 of your most recent logs). :good:

Not function properly how though, is what I'd like to know. I sync'ed all my email, read some, sent some, received some, checked for more. No problems.

What would be interesting/funny is if the newer Android L Exchange was what made it work. :p

[ Initial beta done! Thanks everyone who provided feedback! ]
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Buckycasuals:
When i install the apk, Can the app update on its own when a new update comes?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] tool_king:
If you install it from the Play Store and you activate automatic update there, then why not?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] viniciusrsouza:
His doubt is about if when installing using the provided APK file if it will be possible to continue updating through Play Store.

The answer is yes, for sure. The app will still be linked to your Play Store account and it will be updated normally.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] hanschke:
Google Play Games v2.0.13 (1404932-036)

[removed]

Chrome Beta v38.0.2125.57

[removed]

Google Play services v5.2.08 (1317999-038)

[removed]
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Avi952:
customizing the gapps

well, it's a question i asked in a thread i opened but i've been redirected here
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] airbeeting:
solved. In the end what I did was delete both accounts and re- add them . I kept thinking as I went from the banks to the pa- gapps , there could come the problem.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Galaxo60:
Does anyone knows where to get the FaceUnlock addon?.

I' m planning to install nano package, but still would be nice to have the Face Unlock feature.

:fingers-crossed:
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] :
+1
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] david72262:
Google problem same with play store version
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] ASHURiCAN:
Same here! [emoji45] Is there a way to go back?
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] Rapper_skull:
Download the apk of the old version, delete the new one from /data/app then reboot, it will say that you have to update Google Play Services and you can't login on any Google app. Install the old APK, reboot in recovery and wipe cache and dalvik. That worked for me.
[General Paranoid Android Discussion] SpasilliumNexus:
After looking at that Play Services update, it's missing the lib folder that's usually included. Uninstall that update and wait for TKruzze to release, instead of blindingly installing this stuff, unless you know what you're doing.