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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
Day 2 and I'm already considering an exchange or return. This phone crawls compared to my S3. Or maybe that's not exactly true--it's just way more inconsistent in performance than any Android device I've owned back to the original Galaxy S. Sometimes things really are buttery smooth and then I get periods of awful lag when scrolling, browsing the web, navigating the Play Store, downloading apps and typing with the onscreen keyboard. The lag may not happen all the time, but when it does it's considerably worse than the microstutter I've gotten on devices like the S3 and Note 2 (the Note 2's performance was almost perfect by comparison).

For the first time, I also dislike the stock web browser. I don't know how Samsung could have messed up something they were doing so well with on every other device in the lineup. The 'Window Manager' animation takes frustratingly long and the pages are difficult to swipe off the screen. Poor performance all around. Plus, no plugin support (Firefox is pretty great for that though).

Lots of other small frustrations that just add to the regret: the 'Assist Light' widget triggers a significantly dimmer flashlight than on the S3/Note 2, so I'm forced to deal with the delay of 3rd party flashlight widgets. No matter what I did, I wasn't able to get WatchOn working properly with my home theater. I was able to turn things on and off, but it wouldn't properly switch inputs when changing watching activities no matter what I did and all the remote layouts lacked crucial buttons. The Peel app on the Galaxy Tab wasn't great, but it at least worked with my setup. The S4's Air View is also a lot less useful than Air View on the Note 2 for no good reason. I had to factory reset my phone at one point because the camera app suddenly started showing white boxes instead of text.

I updated to MF3 and did a factory reset and nothing has improved. I know there are plenty of custom ROM's, but I'm reluctant after the disappointment and issues I experienced with custom ROM's on the S3. And I'm not sure if Samsung or AT&T are to blame: just like with the S3, all my friends with Sprint/T-Mobile/Verizon versions of the device have seamless performance and no lag, yet every AT&T S4 I've tried is as stuttery as ever.

Edit: And now I'm reading that MF3 has no Odin or custom recovery support. Returning it tomorrow. Might get the Optimus G Pro instead even though I don't like the size.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] celkin:
I still haven't decided whether or not I'm going to keep this phone. I only had my note 2 for a total of 6 months before I went out and got this last night.

This thing definitely seems to have its benefits, the voice recognition is far superior to that of the note 2, s4 definitely has some power under the hood.

But that being said, this phone feels small in my hand compared to the note line. I feel as if I'm going to drop it all of the time. As well I definitely miss the S Pen... I think more than likely I will keep it I will make a final decision on Saturday when I choose to either root or return.

I am looking forward to finding out what the developers on XDA have in store for this power packed little machine though.

Have to say though I really wish this stupid software update would stop reminding me every 3 hours , and go away lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Yeah don't update it stay on MDL. Some people said that update pushed on them overnight so if I was you I would go ahead and root it now and put the custom ROM on it and have TiBu and freeze the update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] celkin:
I was worried about that actually, so I turned off the phone overnight. I've made the mistake before of doing updates before I've taken a look at the situation on XDA in regards to whether or not the update makes rooting a pain in the ass, won't make it again...

I don't think that the phone with auto install the update it did automatically download the update and prompts for you to install it. That's actually what I'm preventing every 3 hours that's driving me nuts...

Just need to get a few hours to sit down at a computer and actually do some reading in regards to which root method to take and all that wonderful stuff unfortunately I'm working today even though I'd much rather be sitting like a geek in front of my computer tirelessly looking for methods to modify my new tiny little toy!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robotphood:
S4 feels small? You must have huge hands :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] celkin:
Its smaller then the note 2. Haha this feels like a toy... Will get used to it, most people think the note 2 is too big, but it didn't take long for you to get used to it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robotphood:
I guess I like to use my phone one handed a lot. S4 definitely the limit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Presott Hamish:
I prefer my S3, the S4 is a lot hotter when playing games, I'm using my old S3 more often and leave the S4 collecting dust in my drawer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] goothu99:
my old sony x10 i left it on the lowest brightness setting possible and i would still be able to read and see whats happening on my screen. w the s4, not sure if its an amoled thing, but i couldn't see anything outside in lowest brightness setting, had to turn it up at least half way. thats the only gripe i have w this phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] toxicpaulution:
When the nexus 5 hits ill be selling my s4 and getting one. I just can't understand how Samsung messed up one of their flagships the way this did.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
Dude, the S4 screen is amazing. My friend also has a One. Ew. Ahaha, personal preference I guess, but that thing is just washed out to me. I have my S4 stuck on the Professional Photo setting, it gets rid of that over saturation and leaves me with a beautiful natural screen. These black levels are to die for!!

But yeah, my next phone won't be Sammy. $200 for a new screen hurts, this thing is just too much unfortified plastic. I don't have to baby an iPhone 5 as much as this thing.

Waiting for you Xperia i1!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Joeyxc:
I've been following development for a WIP rom of sense 5 for the s4 I hate s4 for so much clutter and it's perfect if you want a clean feel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blitzed604:
well i am new to this kinda of thing as you can see. from my understanding my phone will have something called a flash counter? and if i flash my phone which i have to jamals google 4.3(which works great btw) that counter has counted to 1. if it makes a differnce im on bell using a samsung sgh-I337 as well

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im with this guy..im using google 4.3 by jamal and its worked great for me i use it everyday as a regular phone and it works awesome. you dont even miss the things like eye scrolling because the main stuff already has 3rd party apps on xda. for example the hovering of your hand to preview missed calls works on 4.3 with a 3rd party app. my phone is soooo much faster and i love using it now before i regretted using this thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Why don't you sell your s4? Instead of letting collect dust collect 3-400$ off of it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cybershawngates:
Removable battery is a no brainer. Wish it had more space...but moved nfs to sd card. Overall happy esp w holo launcher hd
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Monkz:
Games had a small bit of lag for me on the S3 no matter what ROM or setup i had and the lags gone on the S4. If your fine with 25 fps in 3D games and frame skipping in 2D applications then i guess the S3 is alright.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] emckai:
I just got the GS4 and I think it's a great phone. At first the phone was getting uncomfortably hot and would lag from time to time, so I decided to check if there was any updates and there was. Updated to the new MF3 firmware and everything is much snappier and the phone doesn't get as hot anymore, just slightly warm but that normal.

Coming from an iPhone 5 to the GS4. No regrets.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xPXGx:
Hell no. I love my S4. I've had mine for two weeks and love everything about it. I upgraded from the Skyrocket. Old gal had to be retired. It was time to move on.

I've had no issues with AOSP ROMs or any mods at all. You can find all of the stuff I installed in my sig.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KGB7:
Yes I do. This is not an issue with other galaxy phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnalogXDA:
Just dropped it--a mild drop, from lap height onto soft asphalt, that anything other than my old plastic-screened Palm Pre would have laughed at--and now it's cracked. Between that and the locked bootloader, yeah, I do regret it a little.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
I hate this thing. The Touchwiz lag and inability to throw on a AOSP rom is killing me. I miss my AOKP navbar and battery life. Stupid mistake on my part ended getting me stuck with MF3. I was fine with it till MF3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Agent:
Absolutely not! I love my S4. By far the best Android phone in my opinion!

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No way!! They just told me recently that none of the units ship with the MF3! That lair!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] big samm:
The only regret I have is not getting the S4 sooner...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EggosEvo:
After playing with the Moto X in the store, I definitely regret it. I had no choice in the matter though, because my family switched from sprint in June. I would rather have the Moto X than the S4, to be honest. But the S4 is still a great phone, and for the phones available at the time of switching, I don't regret a thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robotphood:
What did you like more about the Moto x?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I played with the Moto X in a store yesterday and I don't know what you saw in it. It is small, light and cheap feeling. The vanilla Android software felt flat and boring, and the camera was downright awful.

Are you just being blinded because it's a new phone and because not much has come out lately? Other than that, I saw absolutely nothing about that phone that would make me want it or did I feel it was worth the money they are charging for it. To each their own I guess.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Gamer_Josh:
With all this, I believe there may have been something wrong with your specific unit. But I see you've probably already returned it.

I do get the Assistive Light, it is more dim than it should be. I just use the Tiny Flashlight widget, which is brighter, and doesn't have any delay.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] peaster3:
No regrets. Easily the best phone I have ever had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eluno:
i got mine on launch day. and used for like a day or two before i notice it had alot of lag in comparison to my old GS3. so i did a factory reset then re-entered all my info just like if it was a new phone. and the lag went a way. i now have zero lag. and the phone still runs smooth to this day. totally happy with the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] YodieBuzz:
I didn't like mine until I started playing with AOSP ROMs, now its my favorite phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] penguinjoe:
Was pissed that the 32GB SGS4 wasn't (and still isn't) available in Canada, but now that Samsung has provided offical Apps2SD support, I love mine.

I would not trade it for any other phone on the market today.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EggosEvo:
I used it in the store, and it felt better to hold on the hand than the S4. It also felt a bit snappier, and the size felt perfect. I absolutely feel in love with those Active Notifications. Stock android with the few features Moto added are what drew me in, and performance and battery life are what's gonna keep me in.

I'm also trying to go away from Samsung when it comes to phones. TouchWiz is pushing me away the more they change it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] airognol:
I had an HTC One for a few days but hated the camera and lack or SD. I went to the store and played with the X and debated getting it. Ultimately, I went with the S4 and couldn't be happier with it. I do miss the openness of the One, but I'm sure we can get this bootloader unlocked at some point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blitzed604:
they dont make em like they use to:p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sholsten:
I dropped my 1st S4 about 2 feet on a metal footstool & it left a big ding on the plastic trim next to the usb port.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
That and how loud the thing freaken vibrates. The point of putting your phone on vibrate is to avoid noise ahaha.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ph0dacbeit:
I previously had the AT&T LG Optimus G, which I miss dearly. The 720 IPS display is brilliant and mesmerizing. After a few issues I've had with previously with my older device- warranty decides to send me a brand new S4 with MF3, SOB! So yes, I regret choosing this blasted device, because I'm such a ROM whore. I will most likely be getting the N4 and the LG G2. The S4 is a decent device in my opinion, but the real user experience comes with being able to do whatever the hell I want with my device i.e unlocking my boot loader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ruskiyab:
The phone is choppy and laggy, I decided to try it out over the HTC One I had, wishing I didn't. This thing will be replaced the minute I can get a Moto X for a reasonable price or a nexus comes with LTE, whichever comes first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Agent:
I'm curious how the S4 can get a higher benchmark, but so many still like the One. I guess I need to get one and try it out one day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Z51:
The One is a nice phone. Feels very good in the hand. S4 kinda feels crappy. Dont get me wrong I prefer S4 hands down

★TapaTalked★
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Agent:
I've never even held one, but I'll take your word for it. I do like how it has the beats audio..I haven't listened to any music on it, but I can only imagine it would be better than the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MavereXx:
You guys are funny. This is definitely the superior device. Simple software changes can fix the majority of this threads issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
Software changes that most people can't make because of the bootloader lock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Youngbloodx:
Don't put so much faith in benchmarks. I've used the HTC one and I can say that it's noticeably snappier than the s4 (opening apps, scrolling etc). I still prefer the s4 though not sure why. Probably because of the look of tw. Also removable battery and expandable storage is a MUST for me and I think most people agree with me on this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
I did exchange it for another S4 which has all the same issues, but I was able to root it and install Goldeneye and ktoonsez's kernel. Unfortunately, no combination of ROM's and kernels I've tried is very stable and I still haven't found a workaround for all the lag.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Unless the LG G2 comes out of the gate with major problems, that is going to be my next phone. I have a love/hate relationship with my S4. I keep trying different things to try and make it the phone that it should have been. It is close but I feel they missed the mark on this one. I like most elements about it, but can't get past the performance issues.

And I know the LG G2 will probably have little to no development, but I'm ok with that since it seems insanely fast out of the box.

I'm just getting tired of trying every rom and kernel combination to try and get this phone smooth enough or without jutters. Maybe I'm alone on this, I don't know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
I agree. When I was going to exchange the S4, the Optimus G Pro was on display and it seemed like a big improvement in many ways—much quicker and much smoother than I've ever been able to get my S4, and the bigger battery and arguable better screen don't hurt. What kept me away was the sound quality. One of my main uses for my S4 is listening to music, and it has some of the cleanest audio output of heard in a mobile device, whereas the G Pro's output was noticeably poor.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Locoman_:
there's a few things wrong with your post.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] poofyhairguy:
Honestly if my S4 wasn't Lokified I would sell it and buy a Google S4. I will probably never use touchwiz ever again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] maarco74:
great phone, no regrets .The bloatware is definitely a disappointment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
I really like this phone a lot but using it in direct sunlight is horrible and makes me want to trade it for an iPhone 5 and go back with apple.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
@ hovax615@hotmail.com

Dude, they'll run you out of town for even thinking that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I think the s4 is great. It has some very cool features and is a geeks smartphone. The Google keyboard is better than Samsung's and chrome seems to be a better browser than the stock one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MavereXx:
As a former apple dev I wouldn't touch another idevice with a 20 foot pole.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chaosjh:
i have had the captivate, note, and s2. my wife had the s3 and just got the s4 a month ago. that said, i do not regret having the one.

to each their own of course but what sold me is the quality. even though it only has 4.1 it runs buttery smooth. i prefer to look at it as a proving and solid android build...manly because the truth hurts :( but to those who would blame htc, it's not them, it's att. besides the rock solid phone performance, the phone has the screen and sound to make ALL media awesome (i define media as anything that displays on the screen or makes a sound, seriously, changing ringtones is a visual and audible treat...).

removable sd, meh, i have a 32gb card, sure it's sucks i can't use it, but i get almost 20gb more usable storage than the s4 out of the box (for the same price). between photo backup and gmusic, i'm only using just shy of 4gb of the 25gb available and i have had it since it released (also, i play games and emulators so it isn't that i just don't install anything :p ).

removable battery, again meh, never used/had a second one. sure, my battery dies end of day sometimes but that is rare and i'm always close to a charger if needed.

awesome s4 camera stuff? zoes on the one do all of the s4's features, except better. the s4 you select what mode you want and go with it, no turning back. the one takes zoes that literally rewinds time and lets you "touch up" any of them after the fact whatever it is you want to do (yes, even action shots).

i use action launcher, so i'm not affected by the home screen, that said, it is actually kinda neat for those with a lot of feeds/socialites.

so to end this, if your a media hog with loads of movies you actually watch (and can't bring yourself to alternatives like splashtop, dropbox, or don't have unlimited data like me :D ) and need an sd, or, your a true mobile gamer that kicks it daily on nova multiplayer (and again, don't want battery packs as an alternative) OR can't live with the fact that your s4 friends are sporting 4.2 while your stuck on 4.1 (AGAIN, alternatives, roms) then i'd say stick with the s4. if you would prefer a solid, lag-free phone with the best media experience right now (screen off and it still looks great ;) then get the one.

to answer first post, my wife wants me to swap her phones, won't happen :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] txtech89:
I'm starting to wish I had a more stable version of stock android on my galaxy s4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] htcplussony:
Looks like the Snapdragon 600 was just a temp holder for the 800.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] REDFOCZ:
Try kangabean gives you stock feel with stability you'd expect from touchwiz with out the bloat.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TXT930:
Only that I got one with MF3 before I knew better. Love the quality of the photos, but the camera operation is a little slow. Other than those two issues it's a great phone. Got rid of an iPhone 5 not having to deal with iTunes makes it all worth it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tele_jas:
I'm sitting here looking at a rooted, stock S4 I just got yesterday (MF3 firmware, can't install a custom ROM) and an HTC One with a custom ROM. I can't keep both and I am having a REALLY hard time trying to decide which one I want to keep?

I had an S3 for about 6 months, so the S4 felt like coming back home. But after a few hours, things started bothering me; Like the TW lag in this phone, the delay in taking a picture, the cheaper feel (even in a nice case) and the blue tint to the screen that I don't notice unless it's next to the HTC One. The mic is much more sensitive, but also distorts when recording video in a loud place, like recording a band... the HTC One doesn't.

But there are things that I like better than the HTC One, like: the home button, S-Voice, it's lighter, has a better camera with some nice options**, slightly bigger screen, Smart Stay and the bubble sounds (yes, I like that), some of the Air gestures. I put ** by the S4 camera because the HTC One seems to do better for indoor shots and action shots are less blurry (does better in weird lighting too), but the S4 does amazing at outdoor pics that have a lot of color.... Really a lot more detail than the HTC One, but too much movement and things get blurry on the S4.

So.......I'm still not sure which one I want to keep?? I have to get rid of one after the weekend, I can't afford to keep both. :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
I'd suggest using either sport mode taking auto detection off. I usually keep it on and having voice recognition on so instead of pressing a Button to take a picture just say “cheese" or “capture" maybe it'll help out a little bit. Plus side to it also is the bigger screen which I love about this, but it does feel cheap. Its a hard decision but I've never played with the one so Idk if my opinion counts I'd say stick to the s4

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sbddude:
Put them both up for sale and see which one sells first.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Locoman_:
state of the art is transient. the 800 will step aside for the 1000 and the...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
can someone please link me to the URL that makes the nexus 4 on LTE share LTE using hotspot, i can hotspot but it will only work on GSM mode(speeds are really slow if its NON LTE speeds), if i try it on LTE mode , the device can connect to my nex4 hotspot but it won't get any internet :(

im on the Rogers network in canada

thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoolApps:
The Nexus 4 does not really truly support LTE so this is one of the issues, unfortunately there is no application to do such thing.

Have you switched to a 4G plan?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobyman7035:
i have LTE on my nexus 4 using the hybrid .33 modem flash, i want to get LTE speeds via Hotspot sharing, but can't, it only connects when i have 3g or H (GSM auto PRL)

my device ( nex7 tablet, can connect to the hotspot but it won't get internet) when im on LTE(nex 4 lte mode) rogers apn ltemobile.apn

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1979648
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwarwick:
Works fine with Bell LTE

For what its worth, my Nexus 4 with 4.3 and the .33/.84 hybrid modem works fine with the hotspot feature and the phone operating on LTE. I'm on Virgin Mobile Canada (Bell Canada) so I think more of a carrier specific limitation.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CoolApps:
Can you say out the APN settings for LTE which is on your device?