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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
Thanks for the detailed explanation - I do not play either, I just want a smooth running phone with a camera that can be used to take quick shots. Hence I probably have a similar user profile as you. I followed your judgement and installed the version from the Spanish forum (I was glad I can read and speak some Spanish) and must say that I am quite impressed. Everything is working smoothly, no major flaws until now. Of course I did not have much time for testing now, but the first impression is very important

However, I noticed one problem with the status bar because it seems to be transparent, so it turns white when an app has a white background. This is quite annoying as I cannot really see the symbols on the notification bar anymore when an app has a white or grey background. Anyone having the same problem? Can this be changed somehow? I looked at the settings but did not find an option to change notification bar transparency.

In general I am also very pleased with my Haier W910 until now. It offers excellent value for the money, phones with similar specs from more "popular" brands easily cost more than twice the money I spent for it. I really hope that more people buy this phone so that a working development community can establish itself.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diomorgan:
You are very wellcome! :)

Unfortunately lately is VERY HARD to find this phone in stock for a nice price :(

Me and some friend are hunting the net, but no stock on more than 3 "famous" online shop :((((
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
Where do you come from? I just bought mine less than one week ago and the shop still seems to have some pieces in stock. I don't know if the price is attractive for you, but I could pm you the details.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diomorgan:
I'm from Italy and I bought mine for €115 with DHL delivery and tax-free warranty from china!

It's something like US$155
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
need some help

Hi guys.

I just ordered my Haier w910 and I'd like to get an open source kernel for it. This may then result in custom ROMs being made and future version of Android being ported. I can't promise anything but I'll certainly try.

I do need some help from people who already have the phone. This won't do any damage to your phone.

What I need:

1. cat /proc/kallsyms > /mnt/sdcard/kallsyms.txt

2. dmesg > /mnt/sdcard/dmesg.txt

3. The boot.img file from the update ( ROM ) you used to run these on

Please upload these 3 files to zippyshare and put the link here. I'm especially interested in Android 4.1.2 that has kernel 3.4 but anything could help.

Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
Sounds good, any development work for this nice phone is highly appreciated :highfive:

I uploaded the information you requested, download the zip file here: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/76020469/file.html

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€115 including delivery, now that is really a nice price, I did not get it so cheap, I bought mine for €133 including delivery, but I am still pretty satisfied with the price. I'll send you a private message with the shop link in case you are interested.

[UPDATE] Damn, just checked the shop's website again and now it's sold out as well - yesterday they still had it in stock. Sorry mate :( [/UPDATE]
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Hi,

Thanks for the files. They're useful but I forgot to mention some stuff ( my bad , sorry ). I could use the dmesg from right after boot, could you try to get that as soon as possible after a complete reboot. I need to see the kernel boot sequence in there and after a while that gets overwritten.

Apparently they're made a modification and /proc/kallsyms doens't show the addresses for a normal user ( notice it's full of 000000 ) . Could you please cat /proc/kallsyms as root. The result should look like this :

c0008248 t debug_kernel

Some more info if you need it should be here : insitusec . blogspot . ro/2013/01/kallsyms-on-android.html.

Thanks a lot again. I'm hoping to start work this weekend but reverse engineering the kernel might take a while. It would have been easier if they just released it but oh well ... Chinese companies. I'll use the Acer S500 open source kernel as a base for my work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
I rebooted my phone and executed both commands as root, here are the results:

http://www59.zippyshare.com/v/80856363/file.html

But I don't think the the 000000 have disappeared, the file is still full of it. Let me know if I can be of further help.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Thanks again. This time I got some really useful stuff from the dmesg, all I needed actually. One interesting piece of info I found there is the camera sensors that are used. They are:

1. Back : ov8820 - 8MP - same as Motorola Razr it seems so probably not that bad

2. Front : mt9m114 - 1.3 MP

Both seem to have kernel support.

Anyway dmesg.txt is now a closed topic.

There's only the problem of no addresses for /proc/kallsyms.

Could you please try the following:

root@android:/ # echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/kptr_restrict

root@android:/ # cat /proc/kallsyms > /mnt/sdcard/kallsyms.txt

If that doesn't get the addresses I'm at a loss and I'll have to try something else.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
I think that did the trick... http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/2840521/file.html

Let me know if you need further data.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Yay , we did it. Thank you h3adcrash. Now I don't have to wait for my phone to get started. I'm probably going to start a technical development thread soon. If all goes well we should have something for the general public too.

I must admit that as a geek I'm excited about the tech stuff I found out so far. Seems like a phone with very good components. Not really high end now but certainly quality stuff, not cheapo ones.

Camera is the one in the Motorola Razr and the touchscreen chip seems to be the same one the Oppo Find 5 is using.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
You are welcome and I am looking forward to seeing your development thread. If I can help by testing or something else, please let me know.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] china jay chou:
Hey, everybody is good I am from China and I also use w910 to know how we can help. My English is very bad

Only with the help of Google
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Hi there.

Nice to have you here. Don't worry about your English, my Chinese is the same :D . We could really use help from somebody from China. I don't suppose there's any chance that Haier will release Linux kernel source code ? That would help a lot.

I've studied things a bit and the plan is the following.

1. Get kernel source. This is a must and if no one will provide it I'll have to reverse engineer the binary. Not easy but probably doable given enough time and effort. I've already tried contacting Qualcomm and maybe china jay chou can contact Haier and try to explain we want to improve their phone and port the latest Cyanogenmod so we need kenrel sources.

2. Port kernel to the Xperia T one which is already supported by Cyanogenmod.

3. Make any other needed mods so the Xperia T Cyanogenmod will work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
Sounds like a plan, There are many people out there waiting for a CM port for the Haier W910, it has also been requested in the CM Device Request Forum (http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/74822-haier-hw-w910/).

I won't be of much help in doing geek stuff like reverse engineering the kernel, but I can offer support for testing and other work. :cowboy: Just let me know what to do.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Herrlein:
Motivation

I just want to thank you all :good: for your efforts so far because I wont be of much help in engeneering etc., but am waiting for this "update", too.

Thx & Greetz
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] china jay chou:
I have been to the Haier feedback mail messages, estimated to wait a long time to reply. Now China's eleven long holiday, I hope there will be good news!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Thank you. I really appreciate that you tried this. I'm a bit skeptical that we will get a positive answer but oh who knows.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
FWIW to those still looking for this phone - I just received mine from DealsPrime.

It cost €97 (US$131 at the time) - I think I used a voucher code to get a discount (US$10?) - Google and you'll probably find it. I think it was NEW3 or something like that.

I ordered it on 6th September, had to bug them when it remained "processing" for a while, they shipped it on 19th September (free/slow shipping) and it arrived here in Ireland yesterday 2nd October.

I managed not to get hit for taxes etc. on arrival. Rumour has it that you are more likely to get hit (even if they mark it as a low value "gift") if you choose faster courier shipping (DHL etc.)

Hope this helps somebody.

Haven't had a chance to play with it yet so I'm still using my Huawei Ascend G300... :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mforce2:
Got mine from Pandawill where it was $123 and they also threw in a mini portable speaker as gift. They also didn't have it in stock for a week but when they did get it they shipped it with Singapore Post which is pretty fast. I used the pandawillforyou5 to get a discount but it has to be your first order, you have to use a newly created acount to be able to use it. Overall I really loved how it worked out with Pandawill. They did let me know it will take 1 extra week and that I can have my money back or a replacement.

As for customs it all depends on the customs agent in the EU ( Romania ). I got a DHL package once and no customs. I also sometimes pay something at the customs office but I declare a lower value of $40-50 so I only pay like $10 customs which not a problem.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
$123 (c. €90)! Nice. :good:

Mine came from DealsPrime via SingPost and may have been further delayed by the Chinese (Moon festival?) hols...

Now to figure out what is the "best" ROM. The default ICS has a lot of Chinese stuff on it which doesn't suit me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] china jay chou:
Now less than RMB 600
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mike.mille:
you may contact their customer service and check it out.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] h3adcrash:
I have a working JB 4.1.2 running and it's really worth the effort:

First install a working recovery in case you did not do it yet - follow this link for instructions: http://www.pandawillforum.com/showthread.php?21975-Haier-w910-Android-4-1-2-ROM. Note: In this thread the author also mentions a ROM, I did not install this one. It seems to come without software buttons, which are required for the Haier W910 (but there is an app called "Button Savior" which seems to replace the missing buttons). There is another identical ROM available with software buttons included, this is the one mentioned below.

I recommend this ROM here:

Go to http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-haier-w910-4-1-2-versi%C3%B3n-2-xx-con-superuser-y-playstore-castellano.40695/

Download "ROM 2.13a (Con botones originales):" http://www.4shared.com/zip/uLMdWWTt/update.html?. This is the ROM, just flash it with CWM.

Download "PARCHE cambiar barra estado e icono batería original:" http://www.mediafire.com/download/6wux3vkcpi755lg/is'Rom_v2_RestaurarBarraEstado.zip. This is a patch which restores the original battery icon. The ROM above has a numeric battery indicator, but it makes the notification bar transparent which causes problems with apps with white or grey backgrounds.

There are two more patches available on the website, one for increased energy saving, the other one for displaying download speeds in the notification bar. I did not install them yet, so I cannot say if they work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
Thanks a lot. I'll have a look at those instructions over the weekend and can hopefully use them to get off the awful default ICS ROM onto JB. :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gASK:
Hi, I just wanted to fix a few "misinterpretations" - this ROM is not from the Polish forum, this guy actually just "reuploaded" a backup of my ROM I posted on the movilesdualsim forum (the guy is a regular on the moviledualsim forum). It is a stock 4.1.2 ROM coming not from PW, but from a different seller on a different server.

I have tuned the ROM quite a bit since the upload (CM messaging app, updated all system apps, got Chrome and Google Search working and more) and now I am looking into making it into an flashable ROM (I am new to this, so it will take a bit of a time). I would also love to get the 4.3 camera app working instead of the stock one, but so far all I get is crashes if I try to replace it, so it will probably take even more time for me. In the meantime, I am fine with Camera Bravo (it works quite fine and has a pretty minimalistic interface, which I like).

I am also facing some heating issues which I suspect are caused by the ROM - I can easily heat my battery sensor to 40°-45°C and by heavy use even to 50°C, which I am told is not an issue for people on 4.0.4 ROM. If anyone has similar problem or any solution, I would be glad for it.

Also if you look into the original topic for this "ROM" on moviledualsim, there is a flashable version of it as well as step-by-step guid (all in Spanish though). I'd love to post a link, but I am unable yet, so you need to look into the ROM subforum and find a topic called "ROM 4.1.2 - "stock" by me :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
Hi gASK - thanks for that. I just started playing with the ROM and it looks good. Thanks for your work on this.

Ignore the following in grey - I just found the forum/link to gASK's ROM:

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-4-1-2-stock.47032/

Just to clarify are you referring to the thread on moviledualsim called "ROM Haier W910 - 4.1.2 Versión 2.XX - Con SuperUser y PlayStore. Castellano" or another one?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-haier-w910-4-1-2-versi%C3%B3n-2-xx-con-superuser-y-playstore-castellano.40695/

And are you aingerun on that forum?!? I'm still trying to clarify what ROMs are available for this handset, which is the best and which are simply variants/versions of the same one (your's)...

As it happens my W910 came with the Chinese 360 ICS installed which I could not use. I rooted, installed the English CWM 6.0.1.5 and installed the JB 4.1.2 from the Czech forum (http://androidforum.cz/haier-w910-ip54-t44740.html). When I did this I had no wifi! :( I restored my backup of the 360 ICS and still no wifi! :( I then installed the JB 4.1.2 from the Spanish forum (your's?) and everything worked again. I haven't tried going back to either of the previous ROMs. I don't know why the wifi would disappear like this. Others have used the "Czech" ROM and did not have this problem.

Anyway - I'll continue to play with the phone and the ROMs that are available and see how I get on. Thanks again for your work on getting JB 4.1.2 onto this phone and keep us posted on developments/updates. :)

Edit: the "Czech" ROM mentioned above is your's (HAIER_CZ_412.ZIP) and is the one that caused my wifi to disappear! :-| I'll try it again when I get a chance.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gASK:
Glad you figured it out :) Yes, all the backups are the same ROM. There are two other Spanish ROMs available at the moviledualsim forum and some 4.0.4 ROMs as well.

As for the WiFi, what precisely do you mean by "I have no WiFi"? Do you not see the WiFi in the menu? You can't turn it on? It will not see your WiFi network? It will not connect to it? ....
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
I'm still a bit confused by which is the "best" or most current JB ROM. E.g. there's your 4.1.2 on the Spanish forum but then there seems to be another modified version of that by "Elbuit". Can you recommend what you consider the best ROM right now?

Sorry about the vague description of the wifi issue. :o When I installed the HAIER_CZ_412.ZIP it detected no wifi networks, the MAC address was blank and when I tried to switch Wifi on it would say "switching on/enabling wifi" but nothing would happen. All the GUI elements for wifi were there but nothing would work because it could not switch wifi on for some reason. When I restored my ICS 360 backup wifi was still gone even though it worked originally. When I flashed the JB 4.1.2 from the Spanish forum (http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threa...x-con-superuser-y-playstore-castellano.40695/) wifi worked. Odd...?! :-|

Thanks for your help.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gASK:
That is definitely odd - there are some people using the ROM now and none of them reported anything similar. Not sure what might be causing this - the only thing I can think of is if you did wipe the phone correctly before flashing the ROM? it might be caused by incompatible files staying behind from previous ROMs.

As for "which ROM is the best", that depends on your point of view. I am enjoying the one I have, since it is mostly "pure" JB and already contains the energy savings mod, but some people hate SW buttons and prefer to use the spanish one without them. I have heard that the ROM I posted gives a bit better AnTuTu scores, but that comes at the price of worse heating and battery consumption.

However I plan to try both the Spanish ROMs as soon as I get a chance to see if there is any improvement (I hope to be able to try it on thursday, but I might have to wait until next week since I want to be at my PC and have enough time for "unexpected consequences" ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
Thanks for trying to help.

I always do full wipes/formats in CWM when installing ROMs just to be safe. I also did a factory reset in CWM after installing just in case. I don't think it was anything left over from the previous ROM. I will try that ROM again and see what happens.

Just to clarify...

Are you referring here to the two ROMs (with and without on screen buttons) here?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threa...x-con-superuser-y-playstore-castellano.40695/

And here you are referring to this?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-4-1-2-stock.47032/

There seems to be another packaging of this one in that thread by Elbuit which includes battery saving or something?

(Apologies if I'm labouring the point here but I am still a bit confused about which ROM is which..)

OK - thanks. Any feedback you or anybody else has on the various ROMs is welcome. Ditto I will try to report anything of significance.

Thanks again.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gASK:
Yes, the spanish one I am reffering to is the upper one (although there is a repack of that by elbuit with Trebuchet and some other fixes, which I would prefer - it is the one in the topic ROM Haier Android 4.1.2 español 2.13a_elbuit_v1).

The "stock" ROM is the one by me and the repack by elbuit in the topic should be the same ROM, just in a more user-friendly format and with busybox added (I have not tried that pack though, so elbuit might have done other changes to it I am not aware of). The battery savings is included in this ROM from the start.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
OK - just to be clear (and apologies for labouring the point! :o)

That's this one?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threa...x-con-superuser-y-playstore-castellano.40695/

That's this one?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-haier-android-4-1-2-español-2-13a_elbuit_v1.44821/

That's this one (i.e. the HAIER_CZ_412.ZIP ROM)?

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-4-1-2-stock.47032/

That's the repack by elbuit also in your first post here:

http://www.movilesdualsim.com/threads/rom-4-1-2-stock.47032/

Which, if any, of these ROMs is most recent/current/up to date?

Do you plan to continue working on this 4.1.2?

I've seen the requests for CM on the CM forum but I don't know if there's any likelyhood of that happening or it being feasible to port another MSM8260[A] CM to the W910?

Thanks a lot for your feedback/help - not to mention the ROM! :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gASK:
Yes, all the links are correct (sorry I could not post them directly, but I am under the link-postin post threshold) ;)

Which one is most up-to-date is hard to tell, since they seem to come from different sources, so the ROMs are more likely the result of paralel developement.

I plan to do a repack of the ROM with some changes I made, but I can't really "work on it" since I did not make it - it came with my phone, so I don't have any source codes or anything. So don't expect much support (but the same is probably true for the Spanish ROMs).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dalyer:
Strange that you can't post links. I have marginally more posts than you but have no problem posting them... :confused:

Thanks a lot for the clarification on the origin of the ROMs and your plans (or not :)) for them.

I won't hassle you for support. :D

BTW - I'm using the English CWM 6.0.1.5 from here http://androidforum.cz/haier-w910-ip54-t44740.html#p649007 and the mount usb storage doesn't seem to work for me. The drive never appears on my PC so I have to boot the phone and use Android USB file sharing to copy stuff over. Do you know if that's known issue with that CWM?

Edit: just installed the Elbuit repack of your stock 4.1.2 and unlike when I installed the original (?) HAIER_CZ_412.ZIP this time wifi works fine. :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] china jay chou:
Hey guys sorry to bring you bad news . . . Seems to have to rely on your effort , Come on !

Hello Dear users :

Thank you for your support of Haier phone , consult your Haier W910 machine source code is not public interest

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