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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
As the title suggests, has anyone gone past their 14 day exchange policy and regretted getting the S4? I'm just curious as I have about 3 days left of my 14 days and am not completely sold on it yet.

Just to get it out of the way, I'm not a fan of aosp. Not to go into details, but I prefer touchwiz roms. With that being said, even custom roms and kernels can't completely take away some of the annoying lag and stuttering of this phone.

The only other phone I would consider is the HTC One. I can obviously pay the $35 restocking fee to get one or I have a guy locally who will do a straight trade with me. I just wanted some opinions, what do you think?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rushfanx1:
I am regretting it!

I am.. I came from Verizon Galaxy Nexus and have been on the S4 for 2 full months... There are some nice features on the S4, but some quirky things that REALLY drive me crazy. Given the opportunity, I would go back to my Nexus and wait for something else
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tiptoekirk:
I bought the GS4 very soon after it was released and wish I had waited... There arent many other phones out there as powerful as the GS4 but the new Moto X looks like and I also like the GE GS4 as I already own a 1st gen Nexus 7.. Im just glad that they figured out a root for the new MF3 firmware...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] krips2003:
Nope. In fact more I use, more I feel good about this phone. And also glad that I chose this one over others. Some of the widely used the so called gimmicky features I like using all the time is smart stay, blocking mode, and ofcourse most of the features of TW stock camera. This camera takes the best panorama, period. I have Nexus camera app to take photosphere shot and now I don't miss the Nexus experience at all. But as you know no 2 individual are same, therefore its up to you whether you like this phone or not. After all you are paying to own the device therefore if you are not happy with this go for the one you think is 'money well spent' :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MadBullBunny:
I got mine completely free as do most my other phones. Definitely best smart phone I've ever had and well worth every theoretical penny I spent on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I returned mine... just did not like the screen. I have an Active and I'm happy :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xreflection:
I personally have not experienced any more lag or stutter than I have on other android phones (actually experience much less). I upgraded from a Galaxy Nexus i9250. That phone was slow as hell even with custom roms. The screen was **** too (after a ski trip, the cold did something to the screen and its filled with lines now. GS4 is way better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] dvsdlite:
I like the phone. I do run it rooted and stock. After getting rid of the bloat I don't think it lags that much. I love the camera and the remote function. I wanted a larger screen and this was a good compromise since I was looking at the Note II. I do have better service than my htc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] soccer_rm:
I love mine, is rooted and also get a lot battery life and removed all bloatware to make it faster:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks for all of the responses guys! So none of you wish you had gotten the One? I don't know why the phone is so stuck in my head right now. Thoughts?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Theoriginalgiga:
it's a nice phone and I don't regret buying it. I however prefer my Note 1 over it though. the screen was much better (though a lower resolution), no button on the front and tbh I spent more time on stock with the I717 than I did with the I337. I still have my 717 and when this S4 breaks as I'm sure it will, I'll swap back to the 717, get my squaretrade warranty for the S4 and just sit on the cash until something else comes out that suits my fancy. Hopefully something without a locked bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sevengroove:
I have some reverse insight to add for you, because I initially picked up the One and then swapped it out for the GS4. Every phone has its quirks, and as a previous GSII and GSIII user, I couldn't live with the One's quirks:

The button placement was awkward for me. As a right-hander, I like having the power button at my thumb and the volume rocker at my index and middle finger. The One has the volume rocker lower on the right, and the power button up top.

Without a physical home button, the position of the power button makes the task of quickly checking your phone for the time etc a little more annoying.

The screen stops at the speakers, as opposed to the Galaxy series' glass fronts which go all the way. Doesn't seem like a big deal, but I would almost always get my finger caught in the nano-difference in height between where the speakers end and the screen starts while swiping down for notifications.

On the plus side, build quality on the One is excellent and the speakers just blow the S4 out of the water. The screen, while smaller, looked sharper and less saturated than the GS4's. If those are important to you, definitely check out the One. I was too used to the Galaxy series and decided to switch back to the S4 - couldn't be happier. Hope that helps!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jedimyndtryx:
I'm currently on my 3rd month of being a 7 year iPhone convert. I traded my iPhone 5 for a Note 2, then traded the Note for an S4. I like it. I like the feel of it in my hand despite the plastic. Screen is beautiful and the camera is excellent, My only problem is that every single AOSP ROM I flash crashes my phone like crazy. I've gone through at least 6 different AOSP ROMs to no avail. Almost like its just not meant to be. I've used CleanROM since the beginning with the KT kernel overclocked to 2.16GHz, UV'ed -50, Greenified, & Viper audio and on Saturday beat the battery life I was getting on my Note 2 with a 26hr charge. Am I happy? Yes. Can it still be improved on? But will I eventually trade it for a Note 3 when its out? Yes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] marcoxx626:
That undervolting might be one of the reasons you're always getting crashes. Liquid smooth 2.9 is by far the best aosp rom I ever ran. Gave me amazing performance with no hiccups on the stock kernel and better battery life than any other rom I ran. Almost 7 hrs of on screen time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] soccer_rm:
WoW tha'ts great battery life, I need to give a try :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GuestX0019:
I agree with all posts to date. And, yes aosp is not quite ready for prime time on most S4 phones. Esp 4.3. Seems like some of the older issues are still there.

I am on Omega v9 and Wicked. They are buttery smooth and lightning fast--flashed correctly of course--:)

I mainly got the S4 over One for screen size when web browing. And did not like the button placement either. I came from 2 rooted HTC phones, so nothing against HTC.

Luckily we have so many choices--:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] krips2003:
I didn't get HTC One, because it lacked micro SD card slot. Though it also lacked removable battery option but I could have trade off of that thing. But then again HTC has shown the middle finger with the updates on their so called flagship phones. Next year when they'll release yet another flagship phone, they'll forget about HTC One even exist.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GuestX0019:
^^This Too^^
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slyguy2000:
I first got the S4 Active, because I thought it was an S4 that was waterproof... that phone was a big disappointment!

Lacked the SuperAMOLED display

Lacked the more powerfull CPU

and it lacked the Gen3 Gorilla glass...

(these were the dealbreakers for me)

I then traded it in for the Full S4, and loved it!

I just wish I could have kept MDL on it, (yeah, I was stupid, and took the MF3 OTA)

I did have a week + of full root+recovery, and managed to play with a few custom OS' before I reverted back to stock...

even though I am no longer able to use a custom recovery, I am very happy with the S4 and would only trade it for a MDB/MDL phone at this point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MattMJB0188:
I've bought the S4 a couple times since its been released. Even upgraded to it a few times before taking it back. Finally decided to pick a brand new one up on eBay after thoroughly checking the IMEI number. I do not think the phone is worth a full upgrade. That's why I got mine for a song brand new on eBay. One shouldn't have to root and flash a custom rom because the original phone software is way too laggy.

I don't regret getting the S4, but I know I won't be sticking with it as long as I planned. It's a great phone, but I'd like to see what the next iPhone brings to the table and the Note 3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] surge27:
Been around the block after the S4....the One, Optimus G Pro, along with others.

The lates updates have fixed the dreaded lag (at least in my experience)

Glad to be back....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] norcal61:
I've been excited about getting an s4 since the day they announced it. My contract on att finally allowed me to upgrade the other day and I went straight for the s4. I haven't been thrilled with the performance. The phone lagged from the very start. When I signed into my Google account for the first time in the att store it take FORRRREVVVERRR to actually get signed in. Bad first impression. It has since had quirky little lag issues and other things I don't like. Its probably going back.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] haremmon:
I'm starting to after my firmware got updated to MF3 from Samsung's Repair Center.

I wish I waited for the new Nexus phone coming out in the near future. At least their phone has a bootloader that can be unlocked and free to customize their rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
Do what I'm planning to do: Sell your S4 for ~$450, and then buy a new Nexus for $350 when it is released.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] REDFOCZ:
That is what I'm planning on doing!

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] toxicpaulution:
I was going to buy 2 8gb n4 before they sold out but now I'm just going to wait for the n5. I have had offers for 500$ for my s4 with a ton of cases and batteries. I wouldn't take less than 500 to be honest.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I was able to get an HTC one last night. I gave up my iPhone for it though. I have to say it's pretty nice but even it has lag and I think worse than the s4 but it is a nice phone. The thing about HTC is they just slow things down and it still looks like it's running smooth instead of being choppy but pages scroll slower. Still have my s4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bri315317:
I dont regret the s4 but was never excited or satisfied with it. I enjoyed my previous note 2 much more. I will have mt LG G2 tomorrow. I am ACTUALLY excited for this phone. I believe it is going to pick up what the s4 was lacking.

Only concern is development of it. Sadly at this point I just want a phone that doesnt lag....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I am right there with you. Hoping to have my G2 on Wednesday and it's the first time in a long time that I've been this excited about a phone. No lag out of the box. I can't get rid of my S4 fast enough! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] redstar299:
I LOVE this phone. It's been very stable and has a lot of tweaks and cool little features. The removable battery is a huge one for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MavereXx:
Lol it's funny that people will switch phones to a lower quality phone because they dont know how to remove bloatware. What's lag? I never see it.

Real XDA users don't care for out of the box configuration.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 i337m
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Lag is Samsung's poorly optimized software. I've done all the flashing and modding that I can do on this phone and it still stutters in spots. I'm glad you don't see it though.

And yes, I'm a "real" xda user. :rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bri315317:
You are entitled to your opinion. Im happy that you don't suffer from lag. However I fail to see the humor in your statement. I've been with Samsung since the original galaxy s phone and have run every rom kernel combo since that time. The note 2 was great on a custom rom. IMO the S4 is lack luster in comparison to the note 2. The S4 feels like it is an unfinished product that was rushed to production. Developers like the one for Goldeneye made it better but that doesn't solve everything. It is what it is. Enjoy your lag free phone. Many people cannot say that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] yungskeeme:
I was only about 3 months into my contract when I renewed it to get this phone. Just wanted it because it was new and the best out. I hated my Note 1. I want to sell my S4 but know I'd have to come out of the pocket for to get a new phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
There is a way to have a S4 and not experiencing any form of stuttering. Ill post my "configuration" this week.

BTW, the worst stuttering experience I had was with an apparently "amazing fast ROM" that I found on XDA. Never in my life I had so much stuttering. I had many phones and use tons of ROMs, but this one was insane. I went back to stock in less than 24 hours...

My guess is TW is a terrible UI and you need some crap from Samsung to run it smoothly.

Expect my detailed list by the end of the week.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] komugi:
Yes. I'm selling this phone for Xperia Z1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I think HTC did beat out Samsung with the best android phone 2013 and to make it so bad the HTC One is still running Android 4.1.2. Not even the latest version but it does work great and is nice to hold onto. Anyway I still like the Sammy for some basic features that work great on their phones. The new gold iPhone looks nice too :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ZeroSkylineX:
No way, love my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
Same situation as me. I'm dumping this phone for something else. Sony is taking to long and might not even bring the Z1 to local carriers, so I might have to relapse.

I hate to say it, but the iPhone 5S honestly looks like a better solution for me than lag filled TouchPiss. Forget the lag, my battery life is absolutely terrible and even tweaking and reducing wakelocks haven't helped the 3% drop an hour on standby. I hate to go back to a more inferior screen size and resolution, but there is nothing I can do about it... Android appealed to me because of its customizability and ability to mod. What's the point now when thee best hardware Android has to offer (in my eyes) is locked down? It's now a disjointed and ugly TouchWiz UI thrown on a bigger iPhone. Reliability is important for what I do, AOKP was perfect, but I don't have time to wait for safestrap to get working.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sbddude:
Have you tried CM? No lag and AWESOME battery life. I've gotten over 30 hours on standby.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] yungskeeme:
Im really thinking about getting the iPhone as well. I've ran everything on my phone. I love aosp. No lag but camera sucks (IMO). I've had great battery on both TW and AOSP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Firepac:
I purchased a galaxy s4 that came with the mf3 firmware installed. I later find that I can't install any ROMs or recovery. Now I am regretting it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
I can't, Samsung upgraded me to MF3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] goresick:
Yes. My charger port was going on my i717. I was excited to upgrade to the s4 only to find out it came with mf3 already on it. Might be taking it back next week before the 14 days is up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chromiumblue:
This thread spoke to me. I was just at the store with my receipt in hand ready to exchange my S4 before the 14 days are up. Why?

The S4 just isn't exciting, it's a Smartphone. It does a lot of extra **** I don't need, things nobody needs. Even with some other sweet rom on there, that doesn't make up for the fact that it's still an S4. It looks and feels like ass, it's boring, even the battery life is nothing to get excited about, or the performance. Sure it's close to the top of the line at the moment, but it's still just yet another plastic piece of Samsung tech. The alternatives right now are quite weak in my eyes, certainly in Canada anyway.

On Telus at the moment, I have an option between the HTC One and an iPhone. Having just come from a OneX that failed twice under warranty, I loathe, absolutely loathe the idea of ever going HTC again.

I am cautiously optimistic that the battery life of the LG G2 is worth getting excited about, the buttonless device seems interesting. I'm on the fence, I saw a flip phone in the store while waiting. Good part of me just wants to get that & be done with this malarky. All smartphones are pewp.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jball:
Yes I regret it,I love the "S4"just not a locked down version.I rite now told my wife that I will call Monday to talk to a rep/manager of ATT customer service to demand them to accept my S4 back in return for them buying and shipping me a T-Mobile version Sim unlocked to use with ATT or I will cancel and pay what I owe when I decide.I am very hot/pissed about this matter.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
The HTC One is actually a very nice phone. It does have its quirks but it is well put together and does outperform the s4 even though technically the s4 should be the better of the two. I own both of them. I was surprised at how well it does work. The battery life is awesome also.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Alucius:
Recently upgrade my phone from S3 to the S4. Difference is night and day. Not looking back, maybe unless I brick it...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sameer1807:
I had my doubts about it when I first got it but now, after updates and developers have had their chance to resolve problems like lag, I don't regret getting this phone at all..I was contemplating about the HTC one and the s4 for the longest time. But after using both, have to say HTC is well built but camera just sucks no matter what people tell me..I have had this phone for about 3 months and already have 900 pics on it..I take alot and the HTC camera is just bad if expanded..I'm sticking with the s4 for a while
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] redstar299:
I'm on Mint Jelly and I can tell you for sure the battery is amazing. Evem with that just go on eBay for like 10 bucks you can by oem extra chargers and batteries. I have 3 back ups I don't even plug my phone in anymore. One dies.. Pop another one in and your good to go. Touchwiz blows.. Use a custom Launcher like Nova. It's closer to stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bendoke:
Still Happy

So, I've had several phones...and I gotta say, I'm running this now with CM10.2 and I couldn't be happier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] marcoxx626:
Why don't you just trade your S4 for a T-Mobile S4? I'm pretty sure you still get LTE and our bootloader on T-Mobile is unlocked :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pejhod:
Ahaha, too late. Anyways, I'm done with Samsung for this year. Already sold mine for $435. Here I come iPhone.

BRING THE SONY Z1 AT&T, pl0x.

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Hey man, if the conditions of the phone are great, sell it on Swappa. You can still fetch $400, then go buy another phone with no contract pricing, it will be at most $200 on top, but it be like buying another phone with two year contract pricing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] yungskeeme:
$435? Nice. Ill try that site out. Thanks. Samsung has failed me as well. Chose the Note over the 4s and the S4 over 5. Think I just just make the move to 5s
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GiSS88:
To some degree, yes. I dislike the whole locked bootloader, but I really love the phone itself. If it isn't unlocked in a few months (when I usually start playing with root/etc) then I'll be more upset. As of right now, just enjoying the upgrade from my S2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] McKayCR:
I agree, my skyrocket was great, and my S4 is even better. I was fortunate enough to have MDL so I have been modding like a mad man. Great phone, no regrets
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EvanWeiler:
I originally got an Active, but coming from a Cappy and being very flash-happy with it, I couldn't stand stock TW. I decided to exchange it for the normal S4, and I was extremely relieved to see that it came with MDL on it. I couldn't be happier, especially jumping 3 generations from my Cappy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] s4newbie:
You will probably regret it. S4 rules.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] yungskeeme:
Don't think I'll regret it. I just hate touch wiz. Need a change
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RAID Xero:
I also came from a Captivate right to the S4. My GOD, what a jump! Even though I really like the S4 (came with AMDB), the Cappy was a trooper and lasted until I got the S4 and ended with 4.2.2. If you check the forum, they even have 4.3 for a device that's over 3 years old. That's pretty damn nice. I wish Samsung would make another phone with the design and durability of the Captivate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] XCnathan32:
The only thing the one has over the S4 is an aluminum body and stereo speakers, The S4 has eye scroll hand gestures etc. a faster processor and a bigger screen, i would say the S4, but honestly its your own choice, and almost everybody is probably gonna say S4 since this is in a S4 forum :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ceelo2008:
I just swapped my htc one for the s4 and love it. I think the one looks better but the s4 outperforms the one in imho
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lthary:
With ios7 out, the iPhone look more and more like a samsung and android , yes I love my S4 and I don't see a reason to move to a copy of android when I have the original!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Baldilocks:
Love my S4. Love the physical home button and having a menu and back button. The HTC soft key layout is illogical and the HTC logo between them just ruins the look of the phone.

Blinkfeed is also a big turn off for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xerythul:
I did regret it at first and was really upset when I found I had the dreaded mf3 radio. After a lot of research and patience though I have come to love this phone quite a bit. My first smartphone was a moto droid x (users of which know how complicated root and recovery can be for a first time rooter), and I have to say thanks to hashcodes amazing dev work the root and rom process on the att sgs4 is so stupid easy. It just requires a lot of reading comprehension and retention.

The only thing that hasnt thrilled me is the battery life as I am constantly using my mobile data and gps all day every day. That comes with the territory though. Im proud to show off my sgs4 to my friends with other phones and rub it in how great this device is!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hitman9696:
It's a great phone, but definitely a couple of areas needed major improvement:

1) Camera: Although it's nice, it's speed and low light performance are average for a superphone.

2) Internal memory: Nuff said... And it doesn't matter it has SD Card support. 16gigs should result in at least 12gigs of free space.

I didn't encounter any other issues until now. Battery life is definitely better than my old S2. I didn't notice blazing speeds, but I know it's there when needed with the S600.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ryderz17:
So far no regrets. Its got some really cool features that many other phones lack, and how many other phones have this many sensors? haven't gotten a chance to fully figure the phone out, but happy so far.