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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Glad to see this thread is still going guys! Just as an update, I just got my LG G2 about a week and a half ago as planned. Let me just tell you that I'm not looking back one bit.

The G2 is just such a better phone in every single way possible. The screen blows away the S4, the performance blows it away, no lag, crazy HUGE battery life, tons of features that actually make sense and that I use daily, etc. This is such a sweet device.

I'm already rooted with recovery and CleanROM has already been created for it along with more to come like Hyperdrive.

If anyone is tired of their S4, you would be doing yourself a favor if you at least looked into the G2. I'm done with Samsung for a while.

Good luck guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Maxael:
s4 rox

I love the s4 it was running well, then I installed the goldeneye rom and now its even better... faster, more ram free... I love it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Baldilocks:
Funny that most of the official reviews I have seen say the L2 has missed the mark. I've played around with the L2. It's pretty much a less sophisticated knock off of the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
To each their own.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Theoutbackdream:
Just got my s4 today after upgrading from a S2 Skyrocket, both on ATT. Within minutes I didn't like the physical home button, because I was used to pressing a touch sensitive home button. Another thing was the size of the phone. While the dimensions aren't much bigger, it was harder to use as I have small hands. One thing that I really dislike is the phone getting warm-hot after a few minutes of internet browsing or playing games.

However, I immediately noticed the S4 was much smoother than my S2, and within the day of using it, battery life is much better.

One thing that I regret is that rooting the S4 with a MF3 build seems like a pita, and worried to root my S4. I've read many pages, and it seems theres a pretty high failure rate. :crying:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xerythul:
Keep reading then friend. The root and safestrap on mf3 literally could only be easier if someone else did it for you. As to the other issues you describe I came from a moto droid x and like with any major leap across smartphone generations there is an adjustment period.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Theoutbackdream:
Very true. Although, rooting my S2 wasn't this much of a headache as it seems like there are many closed doors to be opened, and accidently opening one of those doors may result in a brick. :(

While that is very true, the heat emitted from this phone is worrisome.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xerythul:
I think those worries stem from the knowledge that if you do make a wrong step going backwards is even more treacherous and sometimes impossible.

All I can advise is that you read, read, read!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
If you believe completely biased reviews, then yeah, it missed the mark. Have you held one in your hand and tried it? I can assure you it missed no marks that I can tell. It's a beast of a phone.

I'm coming from a S3, Note 2 and S4. So I have no bias at all... The G2 is simply a better phone. There are plenty of great reviews as well (Android Central, Mobile Tech Review, Aaron from PhoneDog is loving it, etc). I suggest you don't believe everything you read and put one in your hand. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Baldilocks:
Apparently you didn't read my post. I've said I've tried the phone a few times.

Once again, a nice phone but a GS4 copycat in most regards and I'd much rather have a home button from Samsung than a slab from LG.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrro82:
Rooting the s4 is stupidly easy. It's the bootloader that's the issue and Hashcode had developed safe strap and that allows us to flash roms. SS is also stupidly easy to use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Agent:
I have to agree with your opinion to some degree. I don't think its a knock off so to say but I do think it's less than that of an S4. When the Nexus 5 comes out...I'm sure its gonna beat the S4. Minus SD card support of course.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xerythul:
Does anyone have any screencaps of a rooted and safestrapped(or loki'd) sgs4 as compared to the lg (also rooted and rommed for fairness)? I think that might help make raw power and ability comparisons much less subjective..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] davietr:
1st. Captivate...I think that it was the best balance of both hardware and build quality..

2nd. S2 Skyrocket.. Good hardware not bad build quality but plastic.

3rd. S3 Great hardware but WTF with the build quality.

4th. S4 32 gb. Awesome hardware..Although the build quality seems a bit better it still an S3 with a few extras.

I always go on hardware specs alone. I think Samsung still is the best. After that it's all about the Dev'ing. Once again I think Samsung devices get some of the best developement. XDA is proof of that. Conclusion: S4 hardware + XDA Dev'ing = Best phone (at the moment)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pham818:
same. and brought a spigen neo hybrid case which makes it look better.

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btw, the g2 i such a copy cat. even the icons and some of the apps are similar to the s4

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thats the same with iphones and its animations.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Just out of curiosity, what is better about the S4 over the G2 to you?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Other than some of the icons, what else about the G2 is a copycat? The design is kinda similar to the Nexus 4 except with plastic. The button layout is completely new and unique. It's ips-lcd vs amoled. Knock-on is completely new and unique. The stock apps look different.

A lot of the way the phone operates is unique (text message pop-up screen, call pop-up screen, etc). On screen buttons vs physical and capacitive. Launcher with several animation customizations. There are tons of stock UI customizations. The list goes on.

There are so many differences, but some people only see icons and on the surface stuff.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fredrick1213:
I'm trying to decide between the G2 and the Note 3. I really want to be done with Samsung after my horrific experience with the S4 but I'm not sure how I'll feel about LG's UI. How has it been for you?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pham818:
looooooool

i think you're to biased.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It has been outstanding to be honest. It is touchwiz-like in appearance, so I kinda felt at home which is a good thing. And fortunately, that's where the similarities end.

It is wicked fast, no touchwiz lag or stutter. The launcher has like 6 or so animation options so it keeps things fresh and to your liking. And the UI in general has tons of customization options. I rooted but honestly haven't even installed a ROM yet. There are already so many options stock and the performance is already great.

The pop-up you get when you receive a text message or call is genius and so useful. Yes there are other apps that can do text message pop-up, but this is built right in so no extra apps to install.

And battery life is absolutely and no contest second to none. Even better than when I had my Note 2. I'm talking insane battery life. I highly recommend the phone bro.

Umm, I think not. This is my first LG smartphone ever and I have always had mostly Samsung. I had a S3, Note 2 and S4 before this. So I'm opposite of biased here. I'm a phone whore and just know an amazing phone when I see one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrro82:
Yippee. You've got a G2. Move on man. This is the S4 forum. We all know you moved on. Let it go. No one cares.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I will answer questions or posts that are directed towards me. Yeah I moved on, you don't need to worry about this thread if it bothers you enough to post in it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrro82:
You're still missing the point : this is the s4 forum. You don't have this phone anymore. So move on to the G2 forum.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pham818:
+1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I have moved onto the G2 forum. I am simply answering and replying to posts directed towards me in a thread that I started.

But it's all good, I will have minimal presence in this thread. I will let everyone continue to answer if they regret getting this phone or not.

Mods, I apologize if I put this thread off course. Carry on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
Pre-root, yes.

Post-root, no.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
I did regret getting mine until this morning when I took it back & exchanged it for a new one running the MDL firmware!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
That's what I did too at att
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
Lol. I still haven't gotten home yet to root mine & freeze system updates. I hope it won't update on its own! I can't be without a phone that I can flash ROMs on!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] anjoz03:
Great phone!

I personally love it. I have it rooted and loaded with Kangabean 4.3 with Faux Kernel. Get "amazing" battery life. I almost get a day and half with out charging (moderate calls - 1hr, 3hrs or more :good:of screen time, 1hr of music mostly!).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
I actually got the idea from YOUR post!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
Haha funny! My first MDL didn't update for about 8 hours. Second one I rooted and froze those files crazy fast. Never got an update screen in the two or so hours it took (learning as I go so taking me longer)

Btw is yours 32gb too?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
Which files did you freeze? All I froze was AT&T software update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
LocalFOTA, FWUpgrade and AT&T software update are the three
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
Thanks. I've already flashed over to Task's AOKP but of I ever go back to Touchwiz, I'll make sure to go into Titanium first thing & freeze those other 2 files.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
No problem. Haven't messed with roms yet as 1) I don't have a Microsd card and 2) the recovery screen looked alien enough for me at this point. Lol. Someday I'll work up the nerve again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Theoutbackdream:
You are very lucky!

I just got my S4, and it updated once my phone booted up, and was connected to my home network. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RobbieL811:
I ran mine all day today before I was able to get home & root it & it didn't update. I used it for at least 6 or 7 hours. I also rebooted a few times.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xerythul:
I have found one thing about this phone that makes me a little sad. All of the people that flash something over their stock rom and then cry for a fix. I feel like 25% of posts in threads regarding s4 development are about that very specific issue because no one reads anymore. Sigh. Still a great phone though!! ;)

sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 running Deadly Venom v8.1.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Wittyusernametaken:
Ugh sorry that sucks :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Mr. SirPerson:
I have to say.. The announcement of the Moto X had given me a bit of phone envy. Much more attractive for a phone and with stock android..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Baldilocks:
It's an OK device. Spec wise more like a GS3 though.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Terror_1:
This sounds exactly like what I did. I had a GNEX on VZW and now I have AT&T, the fist GS4 I had got a cracked LCD without breaking the digitizer, I don't like the physical home button, and the GNEX was a beast as far as the amount of damage it would take. Unfortunately the GNEX had a problem where the radio would no longer connect to the VZW towers which forced my hand at ditching it.

On the up side the GS4 is much faster than the GNEX could have ever hoped to be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xreflection:
Captivate was an amazing phone. I loved that thing. I sold it though, kind of wish I didn't haha. I really liked the metal battery cover. If you replace the battery cover for the S4 with a metal one, the phone feels infinitely more solid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] davietr:
A metal back cover? Palm to forehead! I never even thought to look for one. i had 3 captivates. All of them still going strong. Can't say the same for the next 3 phones I owned after it. I carry my S4 like it's an egg and dare anyone to breath on it. I use my S3 (glass repaired) as my daily driver and pullout the S4 on my days off. Silly isn't it!! After nuclear war there will only be cockroaches and captivates living.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ntothes:
The s4 and the s4 active have the same processor.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
So I declined to do the trade with the guy for his One. Now he is offering to throw $50 on top. Thoughts?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I have owned both, you will have to tell us what matters to you. One has a smaller but better screen. Button layout is a little annoying. Device is fully bootloader unlockable... awesome dev support. The build quality is awesome but the metal dents easy. The battery life is not nearly as good. The speakers are awesome. The camera is not as good. The OS is smoother and fast but you lose a lot of features. Take your pick

I loved the phone, but I love the active more

(I owned the S4, then the One, and now the active)

I loved the development support because the international HTC One is the exact same, and the google edition
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks for all of the responses guys. Even with the $50 on top, I think I'm gonna keep the S4.

I agree that the button placement is odd and I hate the led notification on that phone. I rely on the S4 one a lot and use Light Manager to set each notification at a different color. And I kinda prefer the oversaturation of amoled screens.

I think I'm making the right choice, thanks guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I have both right beside me.

I never use the HTC One but its a great device, smaller screen, camera, and less roms out make it not as good though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] starxgamingx:
I switched from the HTC one, I miss the metal, but other then that not at all. I really enjoy the exchangeable battery and the expandable memory.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] netsyd:
The only thing really making me regret getting the S4 right now is the root / boot loader unlock issues. I really wish AT&T would realize that some of us want a device we can use the way we want to use it. I know damned well I'm not going to get support from AT&T when I'm not running a stock OS and I'm OK with that.

The big bonus' for the S4 over the one (for me) is the better (arguable) camera, MicroSD, replaceable battery and QI wireless charging which I added.

I don't necessarily regret getting the S4, but I'm still thinking of selling it to get the Googly edition if the MotoX comes out at a stupid price point.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
The Moto X has already been confirmed to come out at a stupid price point right? If the prices are true, that phone is a definite pass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] netsyd:
I think it was $200 on contract... but we all know that price will drop in a couple weeks to $149 or $99 which is more reasonable.

The price point I was referring to (and the one we don't know for sure yet) is the off contract price. If it comes out at say $400 (slightly higher than the N4) that puts it at $300-$350 on eBay and I could handle that. If they launch it in the $650 range like the S4 or the One ... well then they're stupid crazy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robotphood:
I read reports of 600+. There's always hope for the Nexus 5? :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] goobieracing:
I like everything about the s4 other then the locked bootloader. Never going back to at&t after updating I lost my unlimited data and I'm always going over now. I been with them 6 years no problems just can't stand being told what I can and cannot with my phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I have an iPhone 5 and the s4 and think out of all Android phones available currently including the moto x which will be out soon the s4 is still the best phone to date. I do wish the cpu in it was more powerful though. It's nice but would like a better cpu.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Lol cpu more powerful? It's 1.9ghz quad core
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HORiZUN:
I love the phone, but with this device being so secure and locked down, no recovery and no custom roms sucks. Stock touchwiz isn't the worst thing in the world, but is far from the freedom I'm used to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mr_blanket:
Do I regret getting the Galaxy S4? No. Of course not. Beautiful screen. Great battery life. Awesome camera.

Do I regret getting the mangled POS AT&T version. Yes. Yes. Yes. In fact, I will NEVER get another bootloader locked, carrier locked phone with crap I can't uninstall upon boot. Could you imagine getting a Dell computer and not being able to uninstall all the crapware they put on their computers?? Carriers should be dumb pipes and nothing more like every other utility. Thankfully, I can loki doki/auto loki/root around most of the BS, in this case.

It's all Nexus/GE direct from Play Store from here on out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Agree partly--

With MDL base and loki, I have no issues. Would like fastboot, but hasn't been a problem. Verizon too expensive. TMobile data coverage is swiss cheese in my area.

However, would give second thoughts to getting one with mf3 already installed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jpdediego:
Nope, loving it every day.

But I undestand how you feel; happened to me with the S3, but not with S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MattMJB0188:
It would be nice if the i-9500 S4 had the frequencies to work with AT&T's LTE. I would have bought that in a second over AT&T's version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
That's one thing I don't get even though the iPhone is locked down it doesn't have all the att crap loaded onto the phone and not being able to delete them. Also you can revert back to a lower iOS system if you download the software for it in terms. say you want to jailbreak it and is at a higher iOS then the jailbreak calls for you can downgrade the iOS so you can jailbreak it. And with the s4 because it blew a fuse you can't revert back down and its more locked down then an iPhone is in terms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eortizr:
Thats the only problem, for people saying 'I will never buy an AT&T phone again' well guess what, 99% of all unbranded unlocked devices do not includes the LTE bands for AT&T.

And yes, I do regret buying the AT&T S4, I have had every 'Flagship' phone that comes out on every OS, and WP8 was completly lag free, I had a Lumia 920 before going back to the S4 and I was disappointed with the Lag on the S4, it was not a lot, but still you get it from time to time which I think is unaceptable for a device like the S4, even the iphone 5 is smoother. I had try every rom (AOSP and TW) even MF3 and seems fine at the beginning but after a couple of days the Lag comes back. My old HTC ONE X was lag free with inferior hardware than the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
I regret that my upgrade isn't until Sept. If I can't find a non MF3 I won't be getting one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
The red ones isn't a popular seller so maybe they'll still be on MDL just look on the box.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
I was hoping for a black one, but red would be fine too. Also that was my plan to search the boxes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
It's a nice processor but it does seem a little weak compared to the apple a6 in the iPhone 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Lol you're a huge fan boy...

The processor is much much more powerful then the iPhone 5s A6 and yes I had the iPhone 5 on day one 64gb so don't go there
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rabbivj:
i just got my S4 on friday and these are the exact same reasons why I didnt get the one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MattMJB0188:
True. I guess AWS LTE bands just aren't popular. No wonder why T-Mobile always got the boot with devices for years. When the S3 came out, I hopped on the international version because AT&T only had HSPA+ here and it was very nice. Now that I have LTE everywhere going back to H+ would be kind of hard. Guess there are trade offs. I think in the end, I'd rather have a completely unrestricted device with 3.5G.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
C'mon, every AOSP rom is laggy too? I'm on Slimbean, and it's smooth as butter, even after a couple months of use.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robotphood:
For those with the HTC one, how is the screen visibility in daylight? Even though it's an improvement over the S3 (unacceptable), the s4 still lacks in bright situations to me coming from an iphone 5. Another area I wish the s4 was better in is the camera in auto mode. When you get a proper shot they are fantastic but I'm finding myself having to adjust exposure and metering mode often depending on situation. On the iphone 5 it seemed to auto adjust much better. I'm fine with fiddling with options on my DSLR but on my phone I like to just get quick shots without the fuss. And the low light capability on the s4 could definitely improve as well. I guess Samsung just left a reason for me to upgrade to s5 :D

You can no longer downgrade iOS to a jailbreakable version (since ios6?). If you accidentally upgrade you are screwed just the same.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CamFlawless:
Agreed. Running Task650's AOKP with Ktoonsez kernel and there is no sign of lag to be found, ever. My phone absolutely flies. I don't regret my purchase one bit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] srobida:
Interesting

I found it interesting that you asked an S4 forum if they were happy with their phone.

Logic wold tell you most of us are.

I like everyone else in this forum did extensive research before choosing the S4 over the One and Note 2, reasons have already been beaten to death.

The fact that your barterer wants to now throw in $50 should be a red flag... is $50 worth buyers\traders remorse?

Does the S4 have quirks and room for improvement? Yes, is the S4 the best smartphone on the market today? Damn straight.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eortizr:
As much as I try to like AOSP, I always go back to stock software, yes AOSP is smooth, but still lacks on the Camera department, I rather have a little lag and a 100% future loaded working HDR camera. Focal seems to address that issue, but still on face 1 (beta) and about 80% functional.

once Focal is 100% I will be converted to AOSP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
Fair enough. It's all about what your priorities are. I really miss the quality of the TW camera, but it's not enough for me to give up the experience of using an AOSP rom. For you it's the other way around, and that's fine. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Honestly the lag isn't there anymore especially after using my rom and applying the tweaks I did.

But as opposed to the HTC one screen it is actually more bright but more reflective so it's even. I have both and the s4 looks better without a screen protector on but once on the reflectance isn't as low and it's not nearly as amazing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ozziedog:
Well I don't regret getting the S4 because I'm not getting it nor HTC One as long as AT&T/Samsung keep locking the bootloader as soon as it is unlocked. HTC has removed the unlock link from their web site or I just missed it. I'll just keep my Skyrocket until it breaks for good.