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[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] lunarjetman1:
Hello all,

Cheers for the reply [MENTION=3381828]tilal6991[/MENTION]. I am not sure why I am still having problems.

I can confirm for me the battery life is greatly improved. I am using the advised conservative governor and cfq.

Cheers,

Lunar.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Just saying, the phone seems to run slower with Set on boot checked...I'll try with a third party app and report back.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] daruma:
Thank you for your work tilal. I have tried and I found basically everything worked well expect of the fm radio but maybe it's known problem. I did have to use the sound fix because the "whine problem" is still exist. The other problem is the level of the speaker because it is too low if I compare with the stock.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] St.Jimmy90:
Nice work man! Works fine :) Haven't tried to call someone yet, but anything else works without problems :)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Here's kind of a weird bug: If you connect a Bluetooth speaker, after disconnecting, the volume indicator will still display the Bluetooth icon even when sound plays through the inbuilt speakers.

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Also, battery seems to charge rather slowly.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Ah yes, charging is a bit slow, i can confirm this
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
So, uh, is conservative actually better than ondemand? The latter still seems to be faster...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
As conservative is better for battery usage (recommended by tilal) , ondemand gives you better phone performance.

For me, conservative is a bit laggy, ondemand is smoother, of course
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
I see. I'll stick to conservative for now I guess, just because battery life is kind of an issue still. These random reboots are starting to irk me slightly, even though I actually haven't "witnessed" a single one (they've all happened while the phone was asleep and I never saw the actual reboot happen). Hope they're fixed soon! That and the slow charging, and heavy battery usage from Android System and Google Services...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Is there any chance of more governors being added to our kernel? Maybe msm-dcvs or something?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Why do you want more governors? I mean all governors we have are good enough.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
None of the governors we have are optimized for multi core though right?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Dekudan:
That's usually just bollocks dev-speak really. If there was real identifiable differences, they'd almost definitely be included in CM by default...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
I'm pretty sure there's a noticeable difference on multicore processors between wheatley/msm-dcvs and conservative/ondemand/interactive...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Speaking of governors, how is interactive?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
Interactive is like ondemand but more reactive than that, but consumes more battery.

CPU Governors explained
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Well I know that. But I'm asking, how does it perform on this ROM in particular?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
As in every Rom, you can have better reaction launching apps or executing operations, because the time of change frequency is faster than other profiles. I don't know if that Rom has optimized interactive profile but, how [MENTION=3381828]tilal6991[/MENTION] said, conservative is optimized.

I have a question: has anyone tried to use camera button to focus in camera app? For me, in Focal works but doesn't works in camera app.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
this version supports camera button

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_fGBfBq-dl2M21QVk5Eb0JDQ0E/edit
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
Is it from 4.2.2 or 4.3? Can i use 4.2.2 apk?

EDIT: I have installed 4.2.2 Galery2.apk. Camera app has more options than 4.3 and there is the option to set focun on press... Now i don't need Focal!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
So right now the biggest problem with this ROM is battery consumption, IMO. I'm getting 20% drain over 8 hours overnight with WiFi and 2G network enabled. Also, when looking at battery stats Android System, Android OS, and Google Services take up the most battery consumption by percentage values, which is just not right. Screen should always use the most battery.

Does anyone know what might be causing these processes to use up so much battery? I'm not a developer/coder/whatever myself so I don't know how to fix these things or where to start but evidently something's not right. Apparently though the kernel settings determine battery life far more than anything in the ROM itself so it would probably help our battery life (and performance too, probably) immensely to add multicore-optimized governors such as wheatley, freelunch, msm-dcvs, etc. to the kernel OR, since this is supposed to be pure CM, just release a custom kernel in a separate thread that supports Android 4.2/4.3.

Just my thoughts, because this device (Xperia T) is really a great device IMO and it's a shame that development on this phone is somewhat stagnant, besides tilal's valiant efforts, of course. There's not a single custom kernel thread for the Xperia T that supports Android 4.2/4.3. All of the custom kernels are for stock :/

I wish I was a developer/coder so I could just make my own custom kernel and be done with it, but I'm not and I don't know how to do any of that. So I'm sorry for not really being helpful with this post.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
A custom kernel is needed if the kernel included in these ROMs is bad. Loads of custom kernel for a ROM are not a good sign IMHO.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
OK but the only kernel that any 4.3 ROM includes is the barebones CM kernel. Fine if we don't need custom kernels; let's make this one better then. Right now our kernel only includes the default set of governors (none of which are optimized for multicore) and I/O schedulers which aren't exactly ideal for achieving maximum performance and/or battery life.

Plus I would argue that loads of custom kernels is a good thing because it showcases a very active community and offers a lot of choice to owners of that phone. And I would say that custom kernels aren't made because inbuilt kernels are "bad"; custom kernels are made because inbuilt kernels, while adequate, don't offer a whole lot of choice/freedom to the user and also are usually somewhat barebones in terms of governors/schedulers.

On sort of a tangent, let's compare this phone with a phone my friend owns -- the Verizon Galaxy S3. The Xperia T and the Verizon GS3 have pretty similar hardware and their battery endurance ratings only differ by a few hours on GSM Arena. Yet my friend, who's running Eclipse Android 4.3 and a custom kernel with freelunch governor, gets much better performance AND battery life than I do on my Xperia T with this ROM and conservative/cfq. But if my friend uses the inbuilt kernel with CM or Eclipse, he doesn't get nearly as good battery life. This leads me to believe that kernels are VERY important in determining a device's performance and battery life. Plus the main difference with most of these custom kernels from the inbuilt ones is simply added governors and schedulers.

In short, I really hope that in some way, we can eventually get kernels that support multicore optimized governors like wheatley, freelunch, msm-dcvs, etc. on CM 10.2 for our device :)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
I have no issues with this but CM unfortunately does not agree to having loads of options in kernels. Keep a watch on the custom ROM scene in the coming weeks though - things will be interesting.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
From what you imply, some restrictions forced by the CM leaders might be lifted in the new AOSP-based ROM?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Alright, I hope some exciting things happen for our device :) Like I said, it's really a shame the community isn't more active as of now.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
I'm not going to say anything but watch the ROM scene in the coming weeks :P
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Aw c'mon; you can't just tease us like that. Haha :P
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
This falls into the "no comment" territory? :p

Ok, hopefully when the situation is resolved, it will be good for end-users, more choices is always a good thing! ;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] FcukBloat:
I read now the CM post explaining the CM Inc. thing. Actually I must admit it is not so clear to me what will change for us CM users, if something will change.. well let's see in the near future :eek:

EDIT: I also read the "focal drama".. well actually I don't like how things changed and how (some) developers are (will) be treated.. it seems to me that as always happen CM founders saw how to profit with that and took that street don't really caring about all the other people who contributed and actually taking advantage of their work and the open source world.. :mad: but I can be wrong will see..

sorry for the OT!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Archaic1881:
The change to the 'inc' is indeed the source of the drama, and I think some device maintainers/devs/bugfixers/... will not like the fact others are going to make profit off their work and turn their attention elsewhere. I think this is what tilal is referring to.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Aside from high battery usage from Android System, Google Services, and occasionally Android OS, I also seem to get randomly high battery usage from Phone and then random stuff like Facebook...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Can I flash this over 10.1?

and, does this rom have the "second party double voice" problem + speaker whine?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
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Speaker whine and echo problem in voice calls dont persist

You can flash this.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dkownacki:
Dont? On 13/09 build ive got this bugs..

Wytapane z Xperii T
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
What do you guys normally get for screen time on a full discharge?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] harowa:
I agree. The extraneous noise is quieter than in older versions but the bug isn't completely gone.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
You talking about the whining/buzzing noise? Yeah it's still there. It's like a quiet buzzing but it's there.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] blinkin:
Yeah, echo is unfortunately still present in the newest version :-\
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Around 4 and 5 hours. With 40% brightness, use wifi, 2G only, use viber, whatsapp, facebook, and no games

Playing games such as dead trigger, phone would shut down in about 2hours
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
o.O Seriously? What's your config with CPU settings and stuff?

I only get 1-2 hours of screen time on this ROM...at school, anyways -- might have something to do with it because both phones I've owned got hot inside the school for whatever weird reason.

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On a related note, has anyone noticed the same properties of each of the CPU governors that I've seen (albeit in my own individual experience, but whatever)?

Interactive: Really good standby battery but drains faster when screen is on. Excellent performance.

Ondemand: Crappy battery all around. Great performance.

Conservative: Good battery when screen on but drains faster in standby than interactive (?) I think. OK performance-wise.

And as for I/O schedulers, I don't really see the advantage in using cfq. Why do you recommend it, tilal? I'm curious; have you made any specific tweaks to cfq? Also, what's better, noop or row? I'm using row right now because it's optimized to begin with for mobile devices (unlike any of the other schedulers).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
I switched back to noop since row seems to have issues with battery usage...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
i must say i cant see any noticeable different in battery usage between the governors or schedulers

i always use ondemand and cfq

i deleted some unnecessary apps (just for me) with titanium backup

i also use greenify to freeze facebook, other apps :laugh:

hope this help you.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
OK I just installed Greenify, hope it helps. I'm super jealous of your screen time though; I dunno how you do it Haha. What apps did you uninstall?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Delete Gmail, exchange service, google+, google search, goo backup transport....

Freeze google service, goo services frammework, goo play store (some apps which need google service will not work such as youtube, maps,....)

I also deleted some other apps but I can't remember now, tell you later
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] FcukBloat:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43228913&postcount=17

that's what I use to delete (with explanations for each apk) when using cm. it was with cm10.2 and using another phone, but things are almost the same also using the xperia t (and also on cm10.3)

I am also using the minimal gapps package (less than 10mb in size) you find in that thread, rather than the big regular one, and I use greenify as well.

ps. but I don't know if that actually really helps in improving battery life.. but if you like optimizing things.. :p
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] immerblind:
please, you also should mention that some things will not work, after freezing google services. i think you mean google play services right?

you have to know: some apps will not work after freezing google play services...for example i use Expedia some times. not worked while have freezed google play services. (youtube also not work)

ok, im not on CM, im on stock. but i also have google play services on top in battery usage stats. last days i made a full charge and freezed play services. but surprisingly this had not so much positive effect on battery for me. im not sure how to explain...yes...it has many wake ups, and is in the battery stats pretty high place, but:

i have no significant difference without freezing or with freezing that service.

just wanne say...my observations
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] FcukBloat:
I have to agree, some time ago when in cm10.1 after seeing google services always in first places in battery usage, I completely removed it (deleted from /data/app ). I also deleted the play store. of course they disappeared from the battery usage stats, but didn't see so much improvement in battery life after doing this!

will make some other tests about that asap by the way ;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] oddeceed:
i have battery drain with CM10.1 (pacrom) i havent tried this one yet but i use DS battery saver and that seems to be keeping my battery going much longer .... personally i have found with CM on all devices i have had or used no matter what the devs do deep sleep doesn't function properly this could be that apps wake it at different times so they essentially keep from entering deep sleep or it could just be that deep sleep is a function that is broken and will remain broken, i dont know im not a dev but like said i use this app and so far my battery drain has halved normally in a space of 3 hours i use around 50% battery and thats with out touching my phone apart from a couple of text messages .... i have sent roughly 150 texts and made 3, 15 minute phone calls and i have used a whole 22% .... could just be pure chance or it could be to do with deep sleep .... anyway hope this may help somebody

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google services will climb up on the battery drain because they run in the background so if you dont use your screen for a long time they will come out above .... mine are currently 7% and my screen is 33% they dont need to be frozen its a deep sleep issue in my opinion
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Yes, i should have (edited my previous post)

You can install wakelock detector to see what apps have been waking the phone up

When i was on stock rom, the culprit caused the most wakelock was alarmmanager of android system and the only way i found to reduce it is to turn on battery extended mode (you will may see wakelock still on sometimes and android system is on the top of battery usage service but dont worry, it doesnt eat much battery than alarmmanager).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Google Services by far has the most wakelocks for me, according to that app. Everything else is fairly insignificant in comparison.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
New echoless build up.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Thanks a ton dude! Any other changes?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
Second post...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
Do we still need to have the touch sounds disabled? I remember a couple of builds ago it used to trigger some nasty wakelock.

Also, is the recommended governor & i/o scheduler combination still the conservative/cfq one?

Thanks a lot! :)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
No idea and yes.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Sorry I totally forgot about that! Thanks.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
give tilal's new build a try, maybe your problem has been fixed :D:D
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] cetronix:
I tried to flash new build (repeatedly) but I cannot boot into recovery. It stucks after boot screen.. I tried prior wipe but it didn't help. Any tips? Thanks a lot!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Yeah it seems like Android System and Google Services don't use quite as much battery as before.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
I've managed to fix the speakerphone whine as well but I've deleted my copies of the 10.1 and 10.2 trees so I'm just going to post a link to the file that needs to be changed: http://d-h.st/LPr

The file needs to be placed in /system/etc/snd_soc_msm/ replacing the existing copy of the file present there.

Also I really really really recommend you start using the FOTAKernel for all ROMs - it's a much better method than relying on the recovery built into the boot.img. For example the TWRP instructions are http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2115726
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] FcukBloat:
very nice! I used to use twrp in my old defy also and was great!

will try it.. just one thing, to enter twrp at boot have still to press vol down? if both cwm and twrp are installed how to tell which one to start at boot?

thanks!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Are we supposed to rename that file and get rid of the .bin part?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
Yes. I don't know why that extension was added by dev host the the first place.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
So, is the speaker whine fixed in this file?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] FcukBloat:
and can someone please also report about slow battery charging and if page scrolling is smooth in drawer also after setting cube out animation?

thanks!

ps. downloading now
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
Yes. In my tests it has been fixed.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] scanno:
Did you submit all the changes to gerrit or aren't here still changes that you have to submit? I am planning to make a build myself tomorrow so would be nice if I could make an up to date build.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
No I haven't pushed everything to gerrit and I'm out for a few days starting early tomorrow. The missing change is just the snd file itself. If you copy that to the correct place in the blue-common repo everything would be like my build.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
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[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] harowa:
@ tilal6991: Thank you much for your good work. I think this will be the last cm for a while because many devs like you will orientate new.

The user who has believed in CM is the stupid one here.

Permanently updating my phone now is history, I will use it for the next year how it is now and then I'll see.

If I would have to decide today which next phone I have to bought, it would be a Nexus.

Good luck, have a good time, thank you much.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
More information:

What is the FOTAKernel partition?

The FOTAKernel partition is used by Sony to do FOTA updates. Unlocked devices can't take Sony FOTA updates so using this partition for storing the recovery ramdisk seems like a good idea. Unlocked users aren't able to use this partition anyway and the FOTAKernel partition is effectively the "recovery" partition on Sony devices.

i still dont understand FOTA kernel and what is the different between CWM and TWRP (except that TWRP is a touch recovery)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
Echo problem with the last snd_soc_msm_2x
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jimilegolas:
Sorry for asking again, but I got to get this straight.

Do I need to do a full wipe before flashing this? Or Is flashing over 10.1 works just fine?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
Works just fine. Make sure you download and flash, along with CM 10.2, the newest gapps package (goo.im/gapps) for Android 4.3.

1. Download both CM 10.2 and gapps in your phone

2. Reboot to recovery

3. Flash CM 10.2

4. Flash gapps for Android 4.3

5. Reboot

6. Profit

;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] St.Jimmy90:
Do you mean, because CM is now a trademark or why?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] lexman098:
Cm has been disappointing for a while now actually. The only benefit is stability (if that). The hardly ever come out with cool features or customizations anymore. Cm7 was the **** but they wiped all the cool stuff away with cm9. Aokp is where it's at these days (I prefer pac).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
That's the point of cm... it's supposed to be a clean, AOSP based rom. Just because you prefer more features and stuff doesn't make cm bad.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
Anyways, new update rocks! Battery life is so much better (though it could still improve for sure) and the rom is perfectly smooth and stable. Keep up the phenomenal work, tilal!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
Can you confirm echo in voice calls and slow battery charging have been fixed? Thx
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] _Raziel666:
Echo in voice calls has been fixed. Slow battery charging I don't think so.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tuzmaster_v2:
do you also notice that the phone is quite hot while playing music ?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] zandm7:
I feel like the charging is faster than the last build...maybe it's just me?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] harowa:
By car I use my fone as drivers logbook (no maps open or needed) and the fone needs more power than battery is charging.

This happens only with 10.2, I haven't have this issue under 10.1 until 10.1.2.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] syntesys:
Yep, the problem is also on usb tethering.

EDIT: [MENTION=3381828]tilal6991[/MENTION], the new snd_soc_msm_2x resolves the speaker whine problem but it has echo bug on call. Can you confirm it?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dkownacki:
I can confirm that the new snd_soc_msm_2x has echo bug.

But can someone explain me why should i use the new snd_soc_msm_2x?

Wytapane z Xperii T
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] tilal6991:
On gerrit with some kernel commits being tested on my github.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahthenewgamer1998:
Wow thinks I Realy Surprised!:D

Tnx So much:)

I'll Install it tonight!;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mahthenewgamer1998:
cwm isn't avalable for me in this kernel:p

I flashed rom by DooMKerneL v7.0

then flash the Rom's kernel:silly:

and Now that's work:)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] blinkin:
So I've successfully installed TWRP on FOTA but after flashing the latest superuser beta 3 I still couldn't get root access which is a must for me (titanium backup, etc.)... So I will wait a bit more and try again later... Maybe next version of Koush will solve it (https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/F6mgvf5JpZ4)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Gawain1986:
I used this package to get root and SuperSU: http://download.chainfire.eu/345/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip

I hope that works for you.

Also, I found that the device wakes up on the camera/focus key again. I had to edit /system/usr/keylayout/gpio-keys.kl and remove the WAKE-DROPPED text after Camera and Focus.