yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
Is it really necessary to waste time into translating?

In my honest opinion, it is almost completely useless and mostly waste of time.

Sure, it is nice to have it on multiple languages, but everyone should know a few lines of english..

._.

All in all, it may reduce the amount of somewhat silly questions, but it takes **** ton of time to translate 1.5K lines.
[HTC Sensation] Eezay:
Ignorance... Ignorance everywhere
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
Enlighten me, what are the major benefits?
[HTC Sensation] Hackerlacka:
I actually agree with Nicx59 that translating tweaks is a waste of time. I usually find it easier to understand what the tweak actually does when reading it in english because translated computer/smartphone terms can screw sentences up pretty badly.

NOTE: This is my opinion, don't flame me because of it.

Skickat från min GT-I9505 med Tapatalk 4
[HTC Sensation] :
I think this too: actually if you are a dev and you can read this forum i don't see how it would be difficult for you to understand the meaning of basic english phrases, considering that most of them will be made of only-english terms like kernel, launcher, tweaks, and many others...
[HTC Sensation] sophisticated_one:
My opinion as well plus i've seen a few times messed up graphics, just because the words didnt fit in another language...
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
The benefits of translation

just to enlighten you guys further, i am not arguing here but i can understand both sides. but this is my opinion. [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION] here is bothering with the translation for other nationalities around the world who have trouble understanding english that well. for me i am a filipino and i have a national language of our own, but i understand English that well so i will not be asking for translations to my language. Anyways, back to the subject. leave the translations as it is and don't use it if you are comfortable with English. Simple. I think most of us here can understand english even if we cannot speak them or write them so well, i suppose?.
[HTC Sensation] Dreamtheater2003:
Have tried the Chinese sense 5 desire port. Amazing experince. Although there was a lot of bugs that you can just text and WiFi. Data connection was not even working.
[HTC Sensation] timothio:
If Chinese translation is needed, I can help!!!!!
[HTC Sensation] hedifezai:
Sorry guys but we are not even there. Let's have a ROM first next we can think about translation. As Ivica said translations can be pushed as updates so we are not in a hurry.

Last week all spent on translations, the week before on CRT screens so let's find Something new for this week :D

_ Hit thanks if it was useful. Sent from my HTC Sensation XE _
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
It will also add the workload of the devs to push those translation updates.

I see a point translating it to maybe some major languages.. German, French maybe etc..

But seeing people suggesting that they want to translate it to some minor language in middle-east (no offense), it makes no sense.

The fanboy-ism is maybe a little too strong there..
[HTC Sensation] dktran6878@gmail.com:
hi

hello. i want to know when there sense5 rom? what time exactly? thankyou so much
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
Exactly, tomorrow at 3pm.. Stay tuned so you can download it first...
[HTC Sensation] XxM4tzexX:
Some people still don't/can't read...
[HTC Sensation] vibis:
Its a joke??:silly:
[HTC Sensation] Bornin:
NOOOO he's dead serious. Set your alarm fella's :)
[HTC Sensation] atrako1973:
I'd prefer to have it at 2 pm .is it possible ?
[HTC Sensation] dinamito:
Dude, seriously ? What are you doing on the internet :D

Sent by my pigeon.
[HTC Sensation] vibis:
In the official pages and site of venom team i cant find nothing about this news, where boys you get it I dont now
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
We went to the nearest fortune-teller.. She used her crystal ball and then told us that it will be released tomorrow 3pm GMT +19.

Stay tuned guys.
[HTC Sensation] wishe:
Very naughty la u guys~ hahahaha~ :highfive:
[HTC Sensation] 12reza12:
if you need help for persian(farsi) menu or keyboard, i can help

just send me a PM
[HTC Sensation] Bornin:
Lmao. Some original trolls out here. You guys should install latest RUU to experience what HTC left you with. Those are the guys you should be *****ing at, or asking dumbass questions.
[HTC Sensation] 12reza12:
IB Vipers is a best rom for every thing even game

i hope this rom will be like that and more better :D
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
seriously guys, don’t get carried away by these false news here. ivi told me monarx is still writing tweaks and even he (ivi) doesn’t know WHEN EXACTLY our rom be released. He pmd me last night and told me that and said that rom was clean and so fast, even faster than that kanged kingsense. and you guys can stay tuned to youtube. remember that teaser video of our rom? it will be the one to be used if the rom gets released. all the missing info there like release date and download link will atlast be given their fill. so if they’re still blank then that’s that.
[HTC Sensation] hkhs10811:
Chinese Sense5 Release soon

I must say that even the KingSense kanged from ViperS, it's still very fast !

Recently, KingSense has announced that everything is fixed except bluetooth, and most importantly,

will release beta test build. The thread has been posted in an China forum.
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
No sense rom is close to Sense 5! And in some way better than any CM rom! just stay with it!
[HTC Sensation] Mustafa Mubashir:
still waiting !!!

any expected date for sense5 release?i was selling my sensation in 170dollars but when i saw team venoms sense 5 so i did'nt sell it..so now for how long i to wait 4 it?

but i will say thanks to team venom efforts:good:
[HTC Sensation] rzr86:
1 month or more
[HTC Sensation] atrako1973:
You'll have to wait for 170 dollars .

Read the last page you'll know what's going on
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
You guys have no idea how lucky we are. I just bought a HTC ONE , Sprint model and the development thread is very poor compared to the Sensation. The ROMs have no tweaks at all and the are still at android 4.1.2 =-O
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
So so... HTC One has a direct support at this moment from HTC... we not. We have a dead device in fact and we can just only dream a 4.2.2/4.3 Sense 5 release and say thanks to heaven for a JB 4.1.1. So you may have the top in few moth directly from HTC. But, considering another pow, we are lucky cause Sensation it's thousand times much more populare than many Others Flagship IMHO at this moment. So there are much more "interested" developers... but recently it seem that developers "forgot" how "wide" is the diffusion of our Sensation and how could it be "interesting" develop for Pyramid
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
Development is poor for Sprint models due to no official release of 4.2.2 or 4.3 ..Otherwise all others HTC one models (international or AT&T) all are updated to custom android 4.3 except ViperONE rom which is still on 4.2.2(bcz of tweaks "Requires lots of time to rebase") .
[HTC Sensation] AndroidSupporter318:
It's someone's lucky day: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...l-begin-getting-the-android-4-3-update-today/
[HTC Sensation] Mustafa Mubashir:
thanks for your quick reply so i am waiting 4 it to release..:good::fingers-crossed:
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
Well Lucky for elvisypi .Now he can run customs roms with android 4.3 .. :p
[HTC Sensation] markNOOB:
Are benchmark higher than sense 4 rom?
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
Yup. Finally, I couldn't wait any longer. But trust me on this, for the price it has the Sensation is an awsome phone, it has all the finctions of new phones which cost 10x more. I have kept my Sensation and will never leave this awsome community. Thank you guys:)
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
what i was just saying.... we can only dream such things...
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
I assure you that you wouldn't notice any difference between a sense 5 ROM with android 4.1.2 and another with 4.3. The changes are so minimal. I think only daydream and quick settings(which we already have)
[HTC Sensation] davuong:
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[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Which one? chinese kang? Download link please? And what are thebugs they have?
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
ok, i will send you my Sensation and you will sed me your HTC One. No problems right? :D

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+1!
[HTC Sensation] kaanozbek:
I'm deleted this post
[HTC Sensation] jotha:
Thread cleaned

No discussion of or linking to roms that are prohibited on xda.
[HTC Sensation] kaanozbek:
OK. Thank you very much for admonition :good:
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
for those who are using the leaked test build of rom, better move away from it. ivi said he will initiate remote fullwipe of phones using the test build if you are not a tester. i have used the rom myself for 3days but ivi told me to move away from it.
[HTC Sensation] boyriot:
how come a beta tester like you still asking download link for something that prohibited by team venom?

even if you are joking, you shouldn't ask about it.
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Thanks for your advice. Think a little hard and you will know why i asked. ;)
[HTC Sensation] jkolner:
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[HTC Sensation] KaiJun:
If you are asking about the many deleted posts, its because it contains some things that goes against the no kang rule.

Most of them had links to the kanged China ROM that was originally from Team Venom.
[HTC Sensation] dktran6878@gmail.com:
i respect this problem , sense5 i hope you stay like me?
[HTC Sensation] chaka809:
To compare them? I'm guessing
[HTC Sensation] MrJukeHardbane:
I guess he wanted to verify that original Venom test build hasn't leaked out.

Sent from my HTC Sensation
[HTC Sensation] hunt:
+1

Full Support.

One of our tester [MENTION=255505]belsj[/MENTION] own both HTC ONE and Sensation, So He confirmed many times that this ROM has Negligible difference with ONE ROM. Only some less RAM we have.

Even Ivicask also compared with ONE X+ Sense 5, He also confirmed that Sense 5 on Sensation Rocks. :)

-Sent from Hunt's Sensation
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
I'm asking to myself a question about a topic recently interesting for many of us... if news ViperS Sense 5 ROM is a porting, all languages should not be auto included? Cause the various Language files in HTC one should be the same in HTC Sensation... or not? If not... Why??

In fact is the same Sense 5.0... not all same functions but almost same sort of system files...
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
We are talking about translations about Tweaks app

Envoyé depuis mon HTC Sensation Z710e avec Tapatalk 4
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
Oh... so translation was not referred to Sense 5.0 ?? sorrry :p
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
:good:
[HTC Sensation] XeloOw:
Of course , as you can know all sense ROM come with many locales :laugh:
[HTC Sensation] blacksn:
105 pages of discussion of ROM that no one sees... just authors.
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
I like fantasy & legends movies :D
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Try MIUI man! Legendary!
[HTC Sensation] AndroidAndroid88:
The sensation is so much fun :)

Sent from HTC Sensation XDA App

HTC Sensation

Android Version: 4.3

CyanogenMod Version: 10.2.1

CPU Frequency: 1.74ghz
[HTC Sensation] XxM4tzexX:
Interesting that no other devs than team venom is trying to port sense jb :), at least no other rom thread. there are so much sense 4.1 ics roms but just one sense 4+ (ok two but i count vipers 3 and revelation as one because sebastian is part of team venom) and in a few weeks one sense 5 rom.
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Yes that's why its team venom!
[HTC Sensation] Far_SighT:
This latest port (4.1.2 Sense 5) requires more work than the previous one(s) due to less hardware (and firmware) compatibility with sensation XE.
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
It's not that it doesn't require much work to port sense 5,but its team venoms solutions, libs and whatnot to make sense 5,and sense 4+ work on Sensation, that are not allowed to be used by other devs, that's why there isn't any other roms like revelation and vipers 3..only sebastian managed to make new kernel work on Sensation..
[HTC Sensation] useyourlogic:
agreed. not to mention Sebastian is on team venom as well.
[HTC Sensation] @@RON:
Will the ultra camera (20/40 mbps for video recording and enhanced jpg-quality) in the new rom included?

Sent from my HTC Sensation z710a
[HTC Sensation] vlaf:
Monarx updated HOX+ now, time to sensation.
[HTC Sensation] bodii_91:
HOX+ is updated now to sense 5, its our turn guys :)
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
In a month + You should have it if all goes well :)
[HTC Sensation] Bornin:
You see how easy it is to create peace in a thread? :p
[HTC Sensation] vibis:
hope it will be only a month+, becose after month you can say one month more:D
[HTC Sensation] XxXPachaXxX:
i'm looking for a desire 601 ruu :)
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Which is android 4.2.2 and no use to us :/
[HTC Sensation] BuXuRa:
so no new model can help us if villec2 wont get an update right?
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Because there will be never NEW model with Sensations OLD processor inside...
[HTC Sensation] szotaa:
Don't be so pesimistic, there are even new devices with single core + adreno 205 still made for mid and low-end. The may make a budget device with adreno 220 soon :)
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
New budget phones have Adreno 200, 300, 400..., which are more powerful than sensations processor and cheaper..
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
That is why Team Venom lives up to their team slogan, "Always one step ahead." :D
[HTC Sensation] salahhazim:
Whith sense 5 update they will be two step ahead :D
[HTC Sensation] microang:
Omg there are still phones with sense 5 running Snapdragon S1's? Omg so that's how the HD2 port is possible...
[HTC Sensation] XxXPachaXxX:
Do you think? Why? :)
[HTC Sensation] ashkan-khatar:
Sooo... can we possibly even imagine two Sense 5 ROMs?? :D

Did you know that HTC Sensation was the one capable of running HTC Sense 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1, 4+, and 5 even though official support was stopped at 3.6?
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
because i know it comes with 4.2.2, and you cant boot 4.2.2 due missing kernel sources for s3, and if u even somehow boot it, libs dont support S3, or you can mix 4.1.1 libs from villec2 to fix audio, camera and rest as they dont work with 4.2.2 ...
[HTC Sensation] bodii_91:
HTC EVO 4G LTE set to receive Android 4.3 and Sense 5 by end of year

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-set-receive-android-43-and-sense-5-end-year

is it s1 or s3 device?
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Its not S1 or S3...

Its S4*
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
Ivicas amount of knowledge O_O

Or then I am just a casual lol.

Eagerly waiting for the Sense 5 then.
[HTC Sensation] HTC Venom:
is there any way possible to get Qualcomm to support the sensation's cpu back again ? and without pointing a gun at them also
[HTC Sensation] boyriot:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2440570
[HTC Sensation] KaiJun:
Don't think so. Qualcomm is a big company with other customers. Sensation users might just be a minority to them
[HTC Sensation] HTC Venom:
I did sign the petition long time ago , so I hope Qualcomm will do something about it
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
After some time i memorized all phones, but you can google phone and open GSM arena and see for your self which CPU it has in matter of seconds..
[HTC Sensation] HTC Venom:
so at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)#Snapdragon_S3 we can find a HUGE list of S3 devices , if the guy thats responsible of the petition here https://www.change.org/petitions/qualcomm-mobile-and-computing-qmc-qualcomm-decided-to-stop-any-further-snapdragon-s3-chipset-support-development-and-not-to-make-kernel-updates-to-provide-compability-for-android-4-2-2-and-newer contacts every forum at xda for these devices at the list a huge number of people will go and fill the petition fast

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read post #31 you will find that petitions may show results with Qualcomm
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
I don't mean just this thread or the latest posts about CPUs.

Reading your posts every now and then...

Wow.

:good:
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
That's the right spirit! I'm going to go to promote it.. soon! ;)
[HTC Sensation] szotaa:
androidcentral often posts false rumors
[HTC Sensation] Twerkeologist:
I wouldn't be surprised if htc released 4.3 for it, but I know HTC too well to think they would give it sense 5
[HTC Sensation] cutejerk420:
HTC should remake the sensation.... Name the new phone HTC viper lol just adding an increased ram to 1.2gig ram and not even the HTC one will beat it :p:p:D:D;)
[HTC Sensation] Far_SighT:
s3 <<<<< s600
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Get over it. Its old! Get HOX or HOX+ or ONE.
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
Haha. Sort of thing i always do. I am.techy but have no money.to keep up with today's phones but i do enjoy marveling at the specs and my knowledge helps me deal with other people's androids. But i do want an intelligence like [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION] in.terms of.rom deving. :D
[HTC Sensation] Angeloid:
woah

Still waiting ...
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Porting is just one party of story, wish i was good with porting tweaks and fixing some more deep smali/java code like our genius [MENTION=1016148]m0narx[/MENTION] , than rom would be already released :)
[HTC Sensation] EvilKing009:
I think sensation has its own another brother as "Htc One X+".
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
uh..really?

uh..really sir? well i thought you already know most stuff about android development including kernel deving and all that is needed..but now that you mention it, i remeber you saying [MENTION=1016148]m0narx[/MENTION] is dealing with the tweak for the devices you are making sense5 roms..so now, is this the answer? [MENTION=1016148]m0narx[/MENTION] is very adept at writing codes for tweaks? what do you specifically specialize [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION]?

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i think no, mate. the phone that closely resembles Sennies is the Ville c2/HTC One S, from where most ports are transported and edited to fit our Sennies, coz One S has almost same specs and chipset as Senny, not to mention the 540x960 screen resolution. one X/X+ is much bigger and i bet also has bigger resolution..so framework.res varies a lot.
[HTC Sensation] erdal67:
Htc's president tweeted it so i doubt it's fake and someone asked

Sent from my SWAGGED HTC Sensation Z710e with AOKP
[HTC Sensation] anttaz:
How can i become a beta tester please?
[HTC Sensation] bilal_liberty:
Its simple, take a paper and pen and then write 'I am a beta tester'.

Read it every time until you are satisfied. :)
[HTC Sensation] boyriot:
why are you quoting the whole post? :mad:
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Nice to see you here! :)
[HTC Sensation] bilal_liberty:
thanks :)
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Ok, now I feel this is nearing a direct jab towards myself and some others... aside from being highly disrespectful.

1. We gave up long ago when SebastianFM would not share the libs for fixing camera and audio. I could fix 80-90% of bugs from porting in a sense 5 ROM but do not see the point when audio and camera will always be missing. I am a java developer mainly and have only extremely basic knowledge in C/C++. Not enough to attempt a fix for the libs. Blame Sebastian for not upholding the spirit of open-source. I do not hold it against him as it's his code so his choice but it saddens me every time I see things that go against what the Android OS is supposed to represent.

As for the other 10-20% of bugs, all I can say is m0narx and Ivica are great devs have more smali/lib hacking knowledge than me. I have a lot of respect for both.

2. Every other developer has other phones - my team all have HTC One, so do most of the other ROM devs. Porting is hard enough as it is but when I have not got the phone anymore and my dad uses it full time so I can't nick it off him for a few days...

3. Time, I have none. I have not even had the time to update DarkSense One to 4.3 due to real life concerns.

Be careful with what you post, you are very borderline disrespectful. I don't see you learning how to dev and port stuff so why are you having a go at others.

Edit: Also you are incorrect. There are 3 ROM's for Android 4.1.1 - Revelation, Viper and OpenSense (which for the reasons in the first point does not have working camera or audio).
[HTC Sensation] vinit91:
That had happened to my Seni when i had dropped it..!! But it recovered back, I guess our sensation has a auto healing technique :P
[HTC Sensation] sssurfer:
Did you saw the pic I attached ? Yours was also this much worse condition ?

How it got recovered !?

(I'll be thankful if u reply on THAT thread instead of here)

Thanks. :)
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
Well said , RESPECT !! .. :thumbup:
[HTC Sensation] kukuthejak:
cant wait for the ROM to be released..looking forward for it:cyclops:
[HTC Sensation] Trakkiggio:
If there was in everyone your same spirit of cooperation.... Every phone ihmo could be always update to the top... thanks for your words, I appreciate that...

I Just have the impression that what move some spirit's developers is not only the need to improve what they have... but also and expercially a much more material reason.... the same reason for what i cannot buy at this moment a new HTC One... and... I'm very grateful to who still mantain this authentic spirit of cooperation
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
We have gona over this 10 times already, yes, i do feel sorry that spirit of sharing has died, but you can thank this to all the kangers of our work.

Tell me, why would we provide free HUB server(which we pay) so that some Chinese kanger who renamed our rom kills bandwidth, and than actual users who use our rom have slow downloads or HUB crashes?? Thats just one example...
[HTC Sensation] AndroidAndroid88:
I reckon its really sad that you guys have to do this, don't get me wrong I think its great and I can't wait but this is a job that HTC Should be doing, its just sad that they don't. Although I can defiantly see why they don't, who would update there Sensation if it is still getting updates.

Anyway I really appreciate what you are doing. :)

Sent from HTC Sensation XDA App

HTC Sensation

Android Version: 4.3

CyanogenMod Version: 10.2.1

CPU Frequency: 1.74ghz
[HTC Sensation] Romone9482:
Hey with venom hub will we be able to change the theme of the whole phone, like colour and texture such as what sense 4 had ?
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Check ViperONE thread and u got more information there than your head can handle... :D
[HTC Sensation] timothio:
Maybe u guys can play co-op with johnny, making a better rom together???
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
To be fair to the Chinese, copyright laws and other such things mean nothing in china... their companies do not even abide by the GPL *cough*Micromax*cough* :p:laugh:

You could add "fake" OTA's for the kangs that just crash the system on a reboot by deleting framework.jar or something, its what I do when I find kangs appearing in the DarkSense database but the downside is it requires effort checking the OTA databases all the time :eek:
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
They are not stupid, they can disable OTA checking, or any regular protections, thats why we added protection directly and to any related to HTC libs, which are closed source, and nobody can mess with them that easy...
[HTC Sensation] kinghunki:
As Jonny says, you can add some validation code in the HUB of resources to delete the Kangs ROM, make its paralysis!
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
Maybe, but doesnt protect rest of the rom from kanging .)
[HTC Sensation] kinghunki:
Some KANGS just in order to let your ROM more adapted to local habits made some modifications, and some people is to tamper with the name of the ROM, ROM information to act as his own work, such behavior is shameful!

Your team can recruit some Chinese to add some Chinese need of things, because in China a lot of people are poor in English!I think that more people would choose the VENOM official ROM!