yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
I thought DATA in Nandroid was just user apps, and SYSTEM was all the system apps and ROM ?

I only have a Nandroid to restore, I don't have TB or anything else

Anyway, dirty flashing them back over the top has worked, its now optimizing 170 apps :)

EDIT - It was a 100% clean install, I wiped the lot before flashing the ROM
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
all apps data including system apps are in /data

so you restored the old system settings from the previous rom by restoring /data

TB can extract apps from a nandroid.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Ah ok... I thought DATA was just user apps, so if I go back to TWRP and wipe SYSTEM again, then flash the ROM and Gapps, that should leave my apps and give me the new ROM system settings again

TB can extract from Nandroid, didn't know that either, lol, might have to give that a shot if things go tits up

EDIT - TB is pretty powerful, just let it check my Nandroid, very cool

Ok, so now I have that option, I`ll see how things run as they are, if it starts misbehaving I`ll do it the correct way, everything seems fine at the minute, seems faster than #226 somehow too :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] renatohs:
Please update the version multwindows
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] MalekoUK:
Wow,this update is awesome!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] leveliciouz:
why is that?

because i came from team eos 4 builds and had weird problems.

sometimes (on eos 4) when i tried to shut down the tablet it just got stuck in the shutting down process meaning the circle that is indicating that it is shutting down right now just stopped and the tablet really got hot until i realized i can reboot it holding down my lock button.

of course i did a clean flash wiping everything with katkiss but it still appeared!

on 27 everything seems fine until now (i dirty flashed it)

on 25 though i had it too. every 3-4 times it got stock at shutdown process. on team eos it was almost every time.

weird thing was that when it got stuck on shutdown i had to flash the rom + gapps because otherwise the rom wont boot up. it just gets stuck at timdurus boot logo. on team eos it still booted up again.

if it appeares again, why does this happen?

what should i do when it appeares again?

maybe do a new clean flash?

although one question:

when i wipe my /system, will my apps and user data be gone like in a factory reset?

or do i just have to wipe /system and then flash the rom + gapps and my apps + user data will not be gone

(which would be like dirty flashing + /system wipe)

i love this rom so far tim :)

keep up the good work

greets from germany

thx for help
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
Wiping system only wipes the apps that are included in the ROM and GAPPS. All user apps will remain, along with the settings and preferences for system apps.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Is there a way to retain homescreen layout / customisation (ie all my folders on the taskbar full of apps that take forever to set back up) using Trebuchet ?

I know Nova Launcher etc have a backup / restore function

I wouldn't mind using TB to restore apps if there was a way to keep my homescreen folders and widgets set up after wiping everything, its just a royal PITA to go through hundreds of apps and make all my shortcuts again
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
[ROM][JB 4.3.1] [ KatKiss-4.3.1 #027 ] [Stable] [MultiWindow]

Havent tried with trebuchet, but I just restore Apex with TiBu and it restores my settings/icons. Should be the same with Trebuchet I would think.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Ah right, looks like I've been missing out by not using TB then, cheers, I`ll give it a shot
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jpmccarthy:
Same for Nova Launcher. Actually a lot of times I will install from the store, but restore data only from titanium and my lay out is preserved so long as all the apps I had were installed (so do this restore last)

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Man, it's insane how good 27 is even if it didn't have multi window.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] SmokenAce:
The TF101 with this build runs better than anything I have had on it.Now it is a real tablet thanks!!! :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] just lou:
My TF occasionally freezes on shutdown, and has done so with every ROM I've used. It still does it to this day, and doing a full wipe has never fixed it. Since it only does it about maybe 10% of the time, it isn't a big deal to me. I just make sure it shuts down correctly before I walk away. If you flash "Fsync On", you won't get stuck on the boot logo on reboot.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Theziggy:
Admission of ignorance

Updatedto v27, rebooted, system showed a fleeting error message and closed, rebooted

and all seemed well.

Ignorance of nav buttons as described by TimDuru in his description of new ROM.

Also went To Settings - User Interface - Navigation Button Settings and one of the

Options is menu button - which I don't seem to have and and wanted to access

So - report of fleeting error message on flashing of v27 and ignorance of nav buttons

Thanks in advance
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] wasdvd:
Any way to keep both windows updating?

In effect, make an app proceed in background, as Iheart does, eve when it is not intended to allow running in background/

I want to keep a streaming audio/video from Dolphin, while reading Gmail, etc.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Yea I've always had the occasional freeze on shutdown too, regardless of which ROM I am running, no biggy, its only like 1 time out of 30 that it happens
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] crisscross3:
Tim, you are one fine developer. Thank you for prolonging the life of this hardware. #27 is awesome!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] prog19:
This build is a milestone, that's for sure. I have the OmniRom version of Multiwindows on my nexus 4 and the refinements made by tim are a good improvement to their code. I don't use multi windows on the phone(we pay big money in brazil for a large screen it doesnt seem smart to split in two), just flashed the rom to compare featurewise. I would love to see tim work recognised at the news section of xda. Big thanks to Omni team an for tim. This code is the future for tablets.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Yea, where is Tims "Recognised Developer" status? If anyone deserves it....
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] lordkill:
Hi guys now I'm in the 27 version is great nice job men very cool but now I need a little help in don't. Whit I have a lot of problem to play any type of videos in the tf101 for example I have a Samsung Galaxy s3 and I try to see a video take on . My phone and is not way to see all time the video play with the room is close with errors and I was download vlc play is a little better but still have error something is very noise because I have a big screen and can't play video nice and smooth ?!!!

If don't have a solution for the video player of the room someone can recommended a very good video player app pls

And new version is amazing .:D:D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] shonkin:
Up and running KatKiss #027. Still downloading my apps and getting things back in order. But those dual windows! What a trip. I'm watching apps download from inside Google Play on the right half of the screen and typing this in Tapatalk on the left side of the screen. I hope word processors are as workable as tapatalk is here... but whatever happens with the various programs when used in a split window, it is *amazing* stuff, Tim!!!

Wait. I thought the Tegra 2 processor and these little TF101 tablets were outmoded? (Snicker!)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] prog19:
Tegra 2 is a lame processor to decode videos, but with mx player and tablet clocked at 1,4 Ghz i can watch 720p mkv with 4mbps of video bitrate. Netflix realHD hack pand youtube hd also runs fine. But 1080p mkv seems impossible to do without lag.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] petenatas:
How can you hide the multiview buttons?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
As if now you can't. Stick with 026 if you don't want the windows.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] philseven:
I feel like you also, but some people should not be responded to
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] shonkin:
The multi-windowing has made my tf101 even more useful than previously. Some specific for-instances...

Opened up MySword (an Android Bible program) on one side, a word processor on the other. Quick cutting and pasting from the Bible program (or a web page or a ???) into the Word Processor.... no popping back and forth from screen to screen it is all right there. Very nice. The TF101 becomes more and more a full-blown laptop with these OS changes.

I will try to shut up now, but Tim... seriously awesome job. And no loss of speed at all.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] krispy1:
Flashed 27 tonight. wiped cache/dalvik and re flashed with gapps everything went fine.

The multi window controls are confusing at first though they are useful. It would be nice to disable it though.

The improvements in the browser are noticeable its very smooth thanks alot Tim keep up the great work
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] cimbike:
Once again thank you for another awesome build.

:good::good::good:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
[MENTION=3951330]timduru[/MENTION]

Would like to ask if we could have multiwindow without the extra buttons?

Where a tap on the nav bar would replace the auto mutiwindow button and a swipe would switch between the last two apps.

The auto button in recent would be gone because you can do that by tapping the app icon and a two finger left/right swipe in recent would multiwindow the app left/right.

PS. I think that users should be given the choice to update their beloved ROM and freely decide if they want multiwindow or not. No one should be staying in #26 just because they don't care about MI.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
I'll add a config option to disable multiwindow.

But it is getting a bit ridiculous, basically if you don't like it don't use it.

Currently if you don't use the new buttons it will behave *exactly* like before without multiwindow.

Same in Recents, if you click on the thumbnail like before it'll not multiwindow.

And well the switch to latest app icon is not only for multiwindow, so I guess I need to add 2 config options too ?

Global swipe gesture might come later on, most likely on the navbar but that brings other issues.

Gesture in recents will have to vary depending on screen orientation and I think it'll be confusing to users, currently you can already swipe left or right to scroll the list if you have many apps running. So it'll definitely not be intuitive, compared to icons that are visual so the user understand directly that they are there and what they do.

Gesture are non intuitive unless you 'read the manual', so I think they could be added later on, but icons will be there too,

then the user can choose to deactivate them once he knows about gestures.

Gestures in general should be an addon and not a replacement of the feature, ie in any case the user needs a visible way of doing things first.

For the moment I prefer to bring the new features first and KISS.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] philseven:
People are so picky.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
Agreed completely, don't waste your time adding useless functions, like you say, Don't like it? Don't use it, it's not affecting normal use to the odd few people who don't like it

Better off focussing on important things, and if and when it becomes close to final, and you have nothing left to do, then maybe look into it

My 2 cents
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Chinaboy5216:
Why change, the ROM as is is fantastic. If some guys don't like it then they should stick with v26.

Who needs KitKat? Long live KatKiss!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] kokabunga:
I dont know if it's related, but 27 seem faster and stable than previous ones... Tim's magic I presume...

That navbar button to switch 2 recent apps is simply The missing thing in android.

Tim, can you think about "forcing" apps to render in portrait when split is active?

Envoyé depuis mon Transformer TF101 avec Tapatalk 4
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
yep will look into that
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Thor_Asgard:
Waow, what a wonderfull update.

I'm formatting the tablet for having a fresh start (so long since I did it)

Thanks for that awsome update !

ps : I'm agree with you, " if you don't like it don't use it. "
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
[MENTION=3951330]timduru[/MENTION]

Thanks for adding an option to disable multiwindow... my 6-year-old doesn't care much about it yet.

Totally agree with you on gestures, they only help if you know them.

Thank YOU for providing us with new features and enhancements!

[MENTION=3034877]philseven[/MENTION]

I decided to take your advice.

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Why don't we add those vol+/vol- cheappo tablet buttons to the nav bar too?

Folks don't have to use it, but they sure gonn see them ALL the time.

:rolleyes:
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jonnyjb:
Timduru, you have done amazing things with this tablet, I never thought I would see multi window on this thing it's amazing. I think we as the users need to stop and think for a moment before posting on this thread, Timduru just did something amazing here that took a lot of time and effort, and then it comes across as some people are like "Ya but why didn't you make it fly and do the dishes too" as I was reading some of the post it was were discouraging towards someone who has spent so much time and effort for random strangers, remember everyone Timduru is doing this for free, so when he does something amazing maybe wait a few days before asking for the flying and doing the dishes too. [MENTION=3951330]timduru[/MENTION], again thank you very much for what you are doing and I hope you don't get discouraged, we really appreciate it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] mgeniusm:
agree

Have you been reading my mind?
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
Didn't mean to sound discouraging or disrespectful towards Tim's work.

I'm really sorry if it sounded like that.

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Didn't mean to sound discouraging or disrespectful towards Tim's work.

I'm really sorry if it sounded like that.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] MalekoUK:
Who needs to buy a new tablet when you have developers like [MENTION=3951330]timduru[/MENTION] ! :D
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Theziggy:
Mine freezes on shutdown quite a bit too - so much so that I just leave it switched on all the time now - works for me. Also leaves it very handy if I need to check something online - don't have to wait for boot up!

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Tim is doing a great job, and people should stop pestering him and leave him to code in peace.

This thread is meant to be a place where bugs are reported to the developer by

US

- the lucky people testing Tim's Roms.

Also - please remember that you can donate to Tim - buy him a beer (if he ever takes time to have a beer).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pkfox:
Optimize not working

Hi all, has anyone else noticed optimise script doesn't work anymore ? It fails with this message: 'applet fstrim not found' , I checked busybox and its not listed. Something has obviously changed here.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
It's built into the rom's busybox.

If you don't see it it means that something has replaced the existing busybox. (most likely one or your app)

You can either reflash the rom and it should be back, or extract it from the rom's zip to replace the busybox you have currently.

(remember to chmod 755 in that case to make it executable)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] prog19:
I am here trying to figure out why make tim spent time to make the buttons disappear. It's not like the botton bar has little space left anyway.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] pkfox:
Hi Tim, you're correct I have busybox pro 1.21.1 installed, however fstrim is shown in /system/xbin as being linked to busybox ( could this have been left there by a previous version ?) Will try reinstalling busybox

Cheers
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
They run fine for me on a fresh install of 027.

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I agree completely.

I think that if Tim found a way to make this tablet create legal US currency some users would complain that they then have to go to the bank to convert it to Euros or Quid.

;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
Not much about free space but rather freedom of choice.

There's an option to display the date on the status bar.

What if users that use that option (display the date) requested that the option to turn it off be removed?

If they like it, why be against the ones that don't need it?

Same thing has multiwindow, if you like it, fine.

Having an option to turn it off doesn't affect you.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] vietchinh:
Hey tim,

May i ask you a favor?

Can you give us the kernel only? I mean make a kernel package, because i use linux rootbinder and i only need install a kernel to go back to android.

Also: MULTWINDOWS IS AWESOME :o.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Chinaboy5216:
Hi Tim,

Don't know exactly if this comes due to v27 but since I installed it xda premium is not giving notifications on new messages anymore.

Not that i really care but just noticed it.

This version really tops everything!! I wonder what the future can still bring. All hail to Timduru!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jays473:
[MENTION=4234585]Tim[/MENTION] this is minor but I know before date format was based on the language selected however now it doesn't change to the way it use to when I switch to UK english ...is it possible to link the date display to change to the specific format as select under date/time in settings eg if I select it to show d/m/y date display should change to reflect that instead of having to change language
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] shonkin:
Tim, did you also do some tweaking of the sdcard setup? I note that now my dock sd card does in fact appear as the, uh, dock sd card! It didn't do that before. I am left with a warm feeling that you actually did some coding in response to something I said. Sheesh.... one guy doing all this coding and he listens to a casual suggestion?! Wow. And THANK you (whether or not I had anything to do with it).

Only tangentally related... One possible oddity here has to do with what appears to me to be an interaction TWRP has with KatKiss (and maybe any Rom). I'm running TWRP 6.3.0.6 or whatever the latest one is. When reading the KatKiss rom file for TWRP install I used the 'mount usb as sdcard1' option in order to get access to my dock sd card. When I booted up the rom afterward it didn't read the sd card at all. So I went back to TWRP and told it to stop reading the sd card (what it was detecting as the USB ) as sdcard1. Rebooted and the sdcard in the dock showed up.

Again, this is far afield most likely. Not a complaint in the slightest and probably not in your ballpark anyway since (if it is even a real problem) has to do with TWRP more than KatKiss.

One final question... I am *SO* overdue to send you coffee money!! Please -- and I'm asking for others who'd like an easy link -- post a paypal for us to "encourage" you by using! ;)

Heh... if people keep on about the multi-window buttons, you could threaten to put a paypal button down there! HAHAHAHA....
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] TheKaser:
this #27 update is ASTONISHING! no overclock (1Ghz) and this rom is faster than anything I have ever seen. Thank you timduru you are a legend!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] frederuco:
View any of Tim's posts in a browser. He has a paypal button in his forum signature.

Can't get much easier than that.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] *Detection*:
You are free to choose a different ROM

Not having the option to turn it off doesn't affect you either, just don't press the button

Tim does all of this completely free, I don't think anyone has the right to demand features be added or removed, again, don't like it, don't use it

Stay on #26
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] shonkin:
Well, out of sight out of mind... using Tapatalk I don't see any of that. So, let's make it easy for everyone no matter how they are viewing...

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/w...63663d3faee8def8934b92a630e40b7fef61ab7e9fe63

Fill Tim's thermos! ;)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] garyngkt:
Checking out this thread and doing some news reading at the same time using multiwindow. Takes a bit of getting used to but I'm loving it thanks Tim!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] YayYouFixedIt:
Love the ROM. Nobody having the reboots switching cpu governors though eh? I'll have to do another clean wipe then maybe. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] sidneyk:
There is, technically, no interaction for the most part between the ROM and Recovery on this device. Recovery lives on it's own partition, with it's own kernel and ramdisk and start up files. In other words, it is a separate environment, almost akin to dual booting with Linux or something. Nothing you do or set in the ROM really affects recovery, other than if you create folders/files they may show up or if you wipe out recovery from the ROM then that will surely affect it. Recovery deals with mounts by itself and takes no orders from this or any other ROM, except the order to boot into recovery. There is no 'mount usb as sdcard1' option in TWRP. There may be in KatKiss, but again doesn't affect TWRP.

I am not having any issues at all with TWRP 2.6.3.0-6, everything seems to work as expected.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Tittah:
Can we leave it at this, please? I think it was a legit question (not a demand) to remove the buttons. If this option was available, I would remove the buttons too because I have no need for multiwindows, however awesome it is that this runs smoothly on our TF101. Another reason for me, is that I have a hard time explaining multiwindows to my kids (6 and 7 years old).
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] xbs:
Already said all I had to say about this, read the thread before saying like change ROM and don't use it.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] timduru:
*facepalm*

not again...

*wondering if it's not the 6-7 year old kids that took over the tablet and are typing all these messages*
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] YayYouFixedIt:
Reflashed and CPU governors are working again. :)
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] Isham.padron:
Best build ever!!!! The Multi mon features are awesome.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] jpmccarthy:
FWIW My 6 year old is trying to explain multi windows to ME ;)

Seriously though, killer version Tim and muchly appreciated.
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] AlSopranos:
what browser are you guys using for this rom? does anyone know how to hide tablet ui while watching movie? also can someone explain some good feautures in this rom to use, i want to use this tablet to max. thanks great rom Guys!!!!!
[Eee Pad Transformer Android Development] mattgren:
I'm using chrome which seems to do most of the browsing stuff I need.

I think the easiest way to hide the taskbar when doing something is to hold the power button down for a couple of seconds and select "expanded desktop".