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[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.

The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] pootney:
Hello,

the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.

If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.

Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.

Best regards,

pootney
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Richieboy67:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] looney2388:
i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Richieboy67:
Doubtful..

Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] stanglifemike:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!

Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!

SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 2 using XDA Premium
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.

The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.

Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/

Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] tweaked:
Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug

Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.

Best display? Lol you lost me there.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Geodude074:
The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.

For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.

IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.

Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
They have to prove it. This is the 4th time they've made these promises, and the first 3 times they've failed. I'm not saying Tegra 4 is bad. I'm saying they have to prove to me its not because they've done this song and dance before.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Geodude074:
I'm not sure who you mean by "they", but the reviews and benchmarks are already out there.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
By they, I mean nVidia and the OEMs. The devices need to be in people's hands to show their true stability and that the devices sent out to reviewers weren't cherry picked, etc. Like I said, nVidia has burned a lot of people a lot of times in the past. They need to rebuild their credibility, at least in my eyes.

And why isn't there any 3rd party devices being reviewed? The Shield is more like an engineering exercise, not a real true product that people are actually going to buy. Read the article I posted above. OEMs are shying away from nVidia until they prove that they aren't completely full of **** on this go 'round.

EDIT: Also take into consideration the GPU scores. The 2013 Nexus 7 is 1900x1200, the nVidia Shield is 1280x720. So its faster, but its pushing about 1/3 less pixels at a 400mhz per core advantage in clock speed. As soon as the resolution is equalized, the SnapDragon800 kicks the Tegra in the junk:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Geodude074:
I never said the SD 800 was a bad SoC. Props to the Adreno 330. This doesn't mean, however, that the Tegra 4 is a bad SoC. Also, this thread was started comparing the SD 600 in the N7v2 to the Tegra 4, so the performance of the SD 800 is irrelevant here regardless.

Also, the Tegra 4 is fairly new, hence why there aren't that many reviews out there yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
I just think that this doesn't PROVE anything. Its a 720p screen in a 1080p world, its got a fan on it, and weighs a ton. We need to see it in a tablet form factor with a moden tablet resolution screen (1080p or higher) before a true judgement can be made.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Geodude074:
I suppose you're right. There are no reviews on tablets with the Tegra 4 yet, so there is no proof. At the same time, there is no disproof that the Tegra 4 isn't a good SoC. So we'll have to wait and see.

I'm quite looking forward to see how the new Asus Transformer Pad Infinity is going to do.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] stab244:
Just fyi the test you screencapped is off screen which means the Tegra 4 is rendering in 1080p even though the screen isn't. I agree though I'd rather have a Snapdragon chip than Tegra if only because development on Snapdragon chips is much easier which means more kernel goodness to have fun with.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] icase81:
Right, that's why I said once resolution is equalized. But you're right. Qualcomm's documentation is actually correct and their chips do what QC says they'll do.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] gunner1937:
Asus Infinity? Please.................................:rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] brashmadcap:
wut

Not trying to be rude but you're being wooed by marketing nonsense
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
Also looking forward to what the Surface RT 2 and 2013 Chromebook will bring.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] stanglifemike:
I'm right there with ya! I'm a big fan of Asus and I've been very pleased with their tablets! Had the Prime, then got the Infinity. Gave the Prime to my older sister for Mother's Day, because she was wanting a tablet and I didn't need 2 almost identical tablets. People can say what they want, but I think the Infinity is still one of the best tablets on the market! I'm 100% going to get the next Android tablet from Asus that has the Tegra 4!! I wish that this '13 Nexus 7 had a Tegra 4 in it!!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] conan1600:
I like many of you am waiting impatiently for the new lineup. I am already disappointed in the Asus Transformer Infinity specs. A ... I want SD 800 ... B ... I wanted 3 GB of DDR 3 ram ... C ... Wanted 2+ GHz clock. But I love the darn transformer dock with extra battery. I will not be taking my nexus back though, as with many of my toys family will use it. As far as tablets go though it will be awesome. Also like the HP x2 with nvidia 4 and dock but afraid there won't be devs on it. All these machine are great but bar none nexus 7 2013 has them hands down on easy portability.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
I recently dug up and fixed an old Acer Aspire One AO532h which I use for browsing, videos and downloading thus I didn't have a need for a tablet anymore. But I still run Android on my desktop to try the latest apps and games.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Angus66:
I know it's not a large amount of owners but the 1st Tegra 4 tablet offered for sale in the US seems a little hot/buggy: Toshiba Excite Pro reviews on Amazon.

Maybe the HP SlateBook x2 with Tegra 4 will be better?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aznmode:
There's a few of us in the general forum that already own the HP slatebook x2 and I can tell you its no slouch. it's very fast and smooth. It's nothing compared to the old tegra 3 for sure and i've had them all (prime, infinity, nexus 7). It even performs better than the n10 which I've also had. I think the overheating is possibly an OEM thing as I've played Nova 3, Sine Mora, MC4 and the x2 does not over heat at all. And I'm enjoying some of the tegra optimized games as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] conan1600:
Ultimately it comes down to what suits you. I have tegra 4 tablet and it just rocks. I have this tablet as well and if you root ROM and custom kernel it then it runs very well indeed. Tegra 4 defiantly lives up to its hype for once but this tablet is mind blowing in its own right. And just so portable and comfortable to use.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Angus66:
So the HP Slatebook X2 has root and custom kernel already? Where can I read more?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aznmode:
I think he's just saying he has a tegra 4 device not necessarily an x2. Don't think anyone found a way to root the x2 yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] macaumen:
I am disappointed by Tegra 3 devices so I am sticking with Snapdragon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aznmode:
I know how you feel. I've had the Prime, TF700, and nexus 7. Nexus 7 wasnt bad but still needed custom rom to be smooth but the other 2 are horrid and I kinda put blame on Asus on that one. But don't discount tegra 4 yet till you try it. The performance of the hp slatebook x2 is outstanding. But I'm sure the snap 800 will be just as good but I like the perks of tegra enhanced games.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] macaumen:
May reports/articles already said that Tegra 3 seriously lacks in performance comparing to what nVidia promised at the very beginning. I doubt what the Tegra 4 can do in real world performance. I believe Qualcomm has more experiences. That's probably why Google ditched nVidia and go for Qualcomm. No offense :cowboy:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aznmode:
Non taken and yes tegra 3 was not was it was promised to be for sure. I doubted tegra 4 too till I tried it and real world performance is the best I've experienced so far even compared to my nexus 10 when I had it. Also Qualcomm wasn't the the best processor before either and I preferred the exynos. So not everything is always going to be the way it was. Again I'm not bashing Qualcomm which I've had good experience with on my s3 and my s4, and my future note 3. I can't wait to see how the snapdragon 800 performs.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] macaumen:
One thing I don't like Exynos is Samsung provide 0 support to the developers. CM is recommending people not to get Exynos-based device if they want CM :angel:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aznmode:
If you guys want to try a tegra 4 device this might be a good buy. Currently on sale for $449 and you can try applying additional 5% coupon svd8492. I'm pretty happy with this tablet.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44785225#post44785225
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] conan1600:
This tablet as in nexus 7 2013. The X2 has not been rooted yet. Lord knows I'm trying myself but not getting anywhere. Anyway what I was saying is the tegra 4 lives up to its hype but this tablet (nexus 7 2013) rooted and custom ROM installed is very good as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] STVERDI:
So, every time I flash a ROM and everything I boot it up and everything's fine but when I go for a reboot it gets stuck on the "Samsung Custom" image and my phone will only work when I wipe everything and reinstall the ROM.. I've tried different Roms and not flashing certain mods but nothing is working.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] scott14719:
Are you using TWRP? You might want to go to the development section and read the TWRP thread...it has people that have had similar experiences that might help you.

If you are not using TWRP (even if you are) make sure you have the correct kernel for your ROM(s). There is a very informative thread in the general section about that.

And, of course, there is always LOKI if you are on AT&T, but it doesn't sound like the issue, but you might still want to research it. Good luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jetlitheone:
Restore to stock via Odin. install rom. Odin. Done.

You wiped your partition in TWRP by saying yes when wiping it.
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] raf092pl:
Hi! Is it possible to port Firefox OS on my Galaxy Tab 2 (p3100)? It's great os and i wanna try it.
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] handsome1_blr:
Hi,

+1 To that.

Regards.
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] Clorush:
Well I'm curious as well.. let's find the answer :fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dealkk:
I just got T999L ( i believe the LTE version). i want to know if the process of rooting is the same with regular t999 and what the easiest way to root? Thanks
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Da Kine:
You're asking a question, so you should have posted in the Q&A section.

Read this thread, you'll find what you need:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2370981
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Naddict:
Users are expected to read and determine the route to best do things to their own phone.

There is plenty of guidance already published, take the time to learn.

Thread closed.
[8.9" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwcasey:
Anyone else here get the 8.4.5 update? I got it about 3-4 weeks ago and just a couple of days ago, got 8.4.6. Sent a message to Amazon to see what was fixed/added, but didn't get any information yet.

Wondering if it would effect rooting/installing CWM or CM mods.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buddapank:
I want to flash to the newest 4.3 release... The one that just came out ota. Neivly I thought it would auto update, but I guess not.... My model number shows GT-I1905...when I originally flashed I had to use loki... What so I need to so to get to 4.3? I really want the blue tooth capabilities.. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Demented22:
Nothing can be done yet until someone figures out bootloader to be able to flash custom roms unless ur phone has not updated to the newest version of firmware, b3st thing to do is search in the forums for yhe right thread for ur phone
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] K.O.N:
HOW CAN I KNOW THE PASSWORD OF THE UPGRADE FILES ? :?: ? :?: ? :?: ? :?: ?

BECAUSE I WANT TO USE I-MATE UPGRADE ON MY QTEK 2020

PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU KNOW >>>> :cry: :cry:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Cheony81:
Hello I just upgraded to tmobile S3 and woud like to get tether on it and read I have to.root device.I would like to know whats the best way to root S3 so that I can get free tethering...also once rooted do I have to flash a rom to be able to free tether? Thank tou...
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 09ubux:
I had a nexus 7 which had 4.3 stock rooted with twrp recovery, and unfortunately my screen cracked while i was using it, it just cracked randomly and the digitizer broke so i cant get any touch screen, apparently it is a common problem so i thought if i can put it completely back to stock and relock boot loader, and get the stock recovery back on i can send it back and hope they fix it free for me, so i managed to unroot and flash stock using wugfreshs toolkit, however the stock recovery doesnt flash, well it flashes it fine i think because it says successful on wugfresh toolkit, but when i boot in recovery it comes up with a dead android lying down with a red triangle.

Please advise what to do to get my stock recovery back

thanks
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pirateghost:
That's stock recovery

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 09ubux:
thanks
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
I have the LGOG and I'm flashing it to Boost Mobile. I need a ROM that doesn't have CM or if it does have CM it needs to have the diag port. Also I've been informed after it's flashed I CANNOT flash a ROM to it again. So if anyone is feeling nice and could inform me of the MOST stable and feature packed ROM for this phone I would be eternally grateful.

Thanks so much!
[Sprint LG Optimus G] spleef:
use lifeless,venom, or imperium those are your stock based choices found in the development section...unless you go with the actual stock rom... majority of our ROMs right now are aosp/cm based.. I might have left out a stock based choice... if I did it's cause those are only ones I've flashed
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
Thanks so much for your quick response. I noticed that most of the ROMs are in fact CM AOSP or AOKP and my flasher said neither would work. Going through the recent posts of ROMs I noticed most didn't mention what they used as source. So I figured I'd ask.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
Since it won't let me edit my post, I have a followup question. After the phone is flashed to Boost will I be able to flash another ROM? My flasher says I can't flash it after its flashed to Boost.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] spleef:
honestly I don't know... but do somee research on flashing to another carrier not just for this phone but others and see if they are able to do it... but all in all if they say don't do it I wouldn't do it... no telling what/how they're going to flash you to another carrier so I would take their advice unless in your research you uncover something that debunks indefinitely what they're telling you
[Sprint LG Optimus G] bigfdaddy2:
If I remember u can flash different roms but u need a back up of ya data settings such as aakey n all them important things
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
You guys rock! Helluva lot better than the guys over at AndroidForums!
[Sprint LG Optimus G] hazedabeast:
U should be able to flash. But I never new that we could flash this phone to boost.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] bigfdaddy2:
U can flash it to any CDMA provider but u will need to make sure u back up you're data nv items,data profile,aaa key,aaa password....
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
Can you help me flash this phone over to Boost? I'm getting all of the required progams, I was just going to do it myself but I think I'm going to need help. I have CDMA Workshop, QPST 2.7.355, QXDM 3.11.36, and WinHex. Just looking for some help. Really trying not to pay someone more than $25 to do this when I can almost do it myself.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
Bump: I got it flashed over!!!! Just I have trouble with 3G I'm assuming the AAA and HA keys aren't sticking.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Sputnikk23:
I've always been curious on how to do this. Can you provide some links please?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Enazsem:
Just DM me or something.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Veritass:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2049701

Diag mode for cm10 /aosp
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] picarito:
Whenever i use game killer on an aosp rom and when i look for the values it reboots. i have tried on paranoid android and liquidsmooth and same thing happens. is there any specific settings on how to use it with an aosp rom? it works fine on touchwiz. any help with this will be gladly appreciated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] since1876:
Did you happen to find out how to fix this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] picarito:
Nope. Maybe is because none uses this game hack apps
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jmxc23:
I have used it on kairosoft games and never had any problems with it so I can't help you out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] since1876:
Thousands of people do :) my decision was to flash cleanbean which is a stripped touchwiz rom. It's not the best choice though since half my ram is in constant use but it works. It used to work fine on cyanogenmod I don't know what happened. Oh well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
You know the old saying "Doc it hurts when I do this" .

Well don't do that then....

If your RAM is half full consistently, then your ROM is broken. The Android (Linux) OS memory manager strives to keep the RAM 80% used /full all the time so that apps load faster. If its less than that you either don't have any apps installed or, you dorkeked something. Lots of times people try to use auto task killers, which work against the OS and cause much memory thrashing and gnashing of teeth and resultant poor performance. Having 60% of the RAM free might make you feel better, but it won;t make your phone faster, just the opposite.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aftab712:
my xperia s(lt26i) is dead, no led notification, i had installed cm 10 unofficial, i was not getting service, so i installed v20 baseband from recovery, after tat it dint boot, i tried all the combinations to enter into fastboot mode to flash, but dint work, plzzzzz some one help me, phone does not respond to anything, even if kept for charge,,
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] IceyYou2:
Try the debrick package within this forum. Don't have much else to offer I'm afraid.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] derrickdroid:
Plug the phone in the wall charger. The phone battery will die then start to charge again. mine took about 2 full days before it showed red led. It all depends on how full ur battery was when it soft bricked tho..

Xperia LT28at running BlackZax'7 JB. 211
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aftab712:
i TRIED TO UNBRICK, NO USE
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aftab712:
i have connected to wall charger, lets see what happens, but had removed the battery once, n inserted again, still same, if i connect charger without battery, red blinking light appears
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aftab712:
its charging now, red light, what i have to do now to flash