yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
We have open application for all devs/contributor who want to join Team Venom, you can find it on our site..

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iyeAykBoF8P17D_WyXuDUyj9AZacFe-63Q2cej6qbf8/viewform

Note: DO NOT apply for beta testing, thanks.
[HTC Sensation] xlx890121:
Actually I have tried to request but they refuse me because they don't allow anyone post modified rom on any forum. :crying:
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
I'm sorry, but We refused you because your application was poorly written, and you haven't showed us any useful skills or work of your own that team may require.

There is plenty of ppl who want/will do translation to their languages, it doesn't require any programming skills...
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
Ivica: Kolega, pali ste... :D
[HTC Sensation] xlx890121:
OK. I know my skills don't meet your requirements. But in my opinion, your team should recruit some localization people. They're not dev. they can translation all apks before you release rom instead after you release rom. If so I think most of people will use your official rom istead modified rom. Do you think?

BTW, venom team's work is excellent, I really appreciate it.
[HTC Sensation] murtazasamiwala:
Hey Johny,

Well firstly, Micromax is a Indian company. I know it is in violation of GPL bcoz it hasnt been releasing kernel source code, but to be honest neither Samsung, HTC or LG (infact any company apart from sony) were too upfront about releasing kernel sources, and did so only after developer and user pressure. I am sure eventually Micromax will too in the same way.

Indian companies usually don't brazenly defy international conventions as compared to chinese bcoz of the higher level of openess, but maybe i think that bcoz I am a Indian. :confused:
[HTC Sensation] Jonny:
Oops, yeah Micromax is originally an Indian company (I assumed they were Chinese because of the amount of jokes/slagging off I've heard related to non-GPL compliance, lot of their devices make it into china and the have a HQ in china)...

As for the company themselves, they've had a lot of developer pressure to release the source, even a portal article calling them out on it. At least the other main manufacturers eventually release the source within the 90 days grace period. I'm actually amazed the GPL copyright holders haven't yet sought legal action against them... then again looking at the number of ridiculous issues they have to deal with through the GPL mailing list they probably haven't had time :p

Anyways this is getting way off the topic of the thread but hey... yolo :silly:
[HTC Sensation] ichigo_kurosaki:
agree here. :D i have seen a beta test video of the ViperOne. Eventhough i don't own a One (wish i can afford, even a plan here in the Philippines), i dare says it's one monster rom packed with awesome features, and i get a glimpse of some (if not all) features we're about to see on our old Sennies. i truly appreciate [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION] and the whole Team Venom for their work..and i also respect the fact that they chose to stop the spirit of sharing..coz some people just steal the credit of their dirty work (is that even dirty? it's awesome! :D). so if the team puts around every protective spell for their work, it's just a must. I have been visiting the kanger's hub (i won't post the link. Sorry.) and been reading and monitoring updates on the KangerSense5 rom, and he claims that it's his work and refers to ivi as if they were pals, and calls people who help him in his kanging "my staff". lol..they have released their "updated rom..but still the bug left is bluetooth. they can't seem to fix it. hahaha..what a pity.:D
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
It's not so hard to make sensation sense 5 rom, you just take villec2 sense 5 port, add our libs and kernel and u got it booting on sensation...

But yea, those desire 600 ports even if they seam better candidate, you would never have working BT/Radio FM, and porting rom from HTC ONE makes our port 10 times more complicated.
[HTC Sensation] kinghunki:
Yes, we must be patient and wait for the venom to complete sense5, we are very grateful for the work of venom !

They work hard, beyond our imagination! So we should be grateful to them!
[HTC Sensation] zooster:
Nice, can you tell us which lib is supposed to be replaced? So I can try the rom myself in the meantime :p
[HTC Sensation] domi.nos:
Your website keep being down, do you have idea why?
[HTC Sensation] bilal_liberty:
There are few guys who have already ported liberty rom to sensation, you can ask links/help from them.
[HTC Sensation] NimDint:
I saw this on a Sense 5.5 leak, does the sense 5 keyboard already have some of this emoticons? if not will it be possible to port them? I really hate the black and white android emoji..
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
Nope these are the emocions on sense 5
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
No use. I flashed it. Many bugs...
[HTC Sensation] olegat0r:
Yeah, sense 5.5 keyboard is great idea. The only thing is compability and portability.
[HTC Sensation] topjohnwu:
Really?? The only bug for me are cam recorder and bluetooth and fm radio. It's a daily driver for me now, I'll be using it until team venom perfect release!!! :)
[HTC Sensation] chaka809:
Pm me the link please
[HTC Sensation] ziaulh.ch:
Network finds automatically and you see callers name when receiving call?
[HTC Sensation] pera987:
Yes, yesterday was released new version, it working ok, with minor bugs, and few bigger ones, like bluetooth, camera video and gps.. It will work until vipers 5 is out
[HTC Sensation] bilal_liberty:
Network is working great and no ril bugs and the callers name comes as well. All you need to is integrate my data fix which is somewhere in discussion thread while porting. The bugs in c2 r:

Camcorder

Bluetooth

GPS
[HTC Sensation] hunt:
Lol, Contact bug was not there in previous test builds. But some other bug fixes introduced this issue. All we want is a precious time of m0narx, he can fix this bugs quickly. And then He'll start Porting of the Tweaks. :)

-Sent from Hunt's Sensation
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
LOL What is this now?

Should we rename the thread maybe?

SENSE 5 PORT, Kang - China ROM discussion

Lol more posts about those kang sense 5 ROMs currently.
[HTC Sensation] Mile_zdr:
It will be great if in this rom we have sweep2wake :d
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
Isn't this about kernel?

So maybe SebastianFM can make it happen : )

I don't know.. I don't find it very important but it's a nice feature, my powerbutton is starting to feel a little unresponsive.
[HTC Sensation] rzr86:
yeap it has to do with kernel
[HTC Sensation] nitsuj17:
regardless of people's thoughts about it, our sharing policy has ALWAYS been extremely well known; ie we dont allow anyone but venom developers to use or distribute the team's work

we dont really care the reasons that kangs show up on foreign sites, although im sure some are just localization issues; we just do not allow them, period

some of the viperRoms have more localization support such as ViperX as many people do system wide translations for unsupported languages....anyone is always welcome to offer assistance in doing so for the other viperRoms, but we will NEVER work with anyone who has ever broken our sharing policy whether it was on xda, chinese or other foreign sites, or the 2 sites which shall not be named

the sensation community has always been in good hands with m0n, ivica, and shniz bringing great venom releases to it and im sure sense5 will be more of the same :)
[HTC Sensation] hkhs10811:
Then you can wait for VIperS till November.

Anyway, KingSenseS 1.0.0 is really fast and stable, although little bug with Bluetooth.
[HTC Sensation] zexcrazy:
Dont you guys think that is a bit disrespectfull to team Venom to talk about their kanged work here at xda. I think that they deserve better than that. In one sentence you thank them for their hard work and in second you ask for links to chinese rom. Are you serious?
[HTC Sensation] nasif69:
+1 :good:
[HTC Sensation] bodii_91:
it's a shame to flash any kanged rom in our senny, specially vipers users. for me, vipers sense 5 will be the first sense 5 rom to be flashed and i can wait it for a year not jst a month.

Thank You Team Venom
[HTC Sensation] NimDint:
+1. I also think it's not worth the while flashing roms with major bugs like bluetooth and gps even if I don't use them all the time, because if I will need them they won't work.. Thats why I'm thankful for team venom for fixing all this stuff and I don't mind waiting even more (if needed) for a fully working rom :D
[HTC Sensation] atrako1973:
Question for beta team , does the phone lag when installing apps or downloading form market ? Thanks
[HTC Sensation] elvisypi:
What do you think that the new ROM will make your CPU octa core? Even my HTC One slows down when apps are being installed
[HTC Sensation] atrako1973:
Are you beta testing the Rom ?
[HTC Sensation] Nicx59:
Apparently he is not, but still has more powerful HTC One with Sense 5, and even it lags a little.

So yes, phone may lag a little when DLing apps.

Not that big problem though.
[HTC Sensation] Shree.bhagwat:
OMG

Somebody pinch me ;)

After a lot of time on XDA

And surprised to see sense 5 porting thread

Team venom your best

I'll take this as my bday gift

Awesum

Hats off :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
[HTC Sensation] rzr86:
it's a waste of time
[HTC Sensation] atrako1973:
Well if he is not a beta tester ,I think he should keep his comment to himself ,as question was addressed to beta testers , besides HTC one DOESN'T NOT LAG in any situation , had it for over a month ,was very happy with it
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
sense

I dont see what is the problem with talking about chinese kang

He uses some of team venoms stuff but he is working hard on it too

And if you dont share your part i dont see where we are taking open source development thing

whether kinghunki may or may not be working on it venom is going to release their version anyway and people will choose what they find better

And about the beta testing thing i get the idea about having only a certain group of people reporting bugs and stuff but whats the point in not letting others even use it

I have been using the leaked beta version for quit a time now and I'd be glad to share it with anyone who wants it

And believe me there is no way they could initiate a full wipe remotely and even if they could why do we have titanium backup for

We love our phone and its been like 2 months they announced a sense 5 version for our phone and we don't see it coming for another one month( they should have announced it only when done completely if they are so keen on keeping it safe)

I get the idea of a bug-free rom but why keeping people from accessing the beta version and specially when its not their first priority phone and its been taking long for a finished product for sensation.

They should be happily distributing it to people.

Sharing Is Caring

DK
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
At your first post you are telling the devs what to do and what not .. :banghead:
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
sense

Just because I made a new account today does not make me noob

I ve been porting roms for sensation for a long time
[HTC Sensation] NimDint:
Are you serious? These devs are contributing alot of their time for nothing in return to bring us sense 5 and youre complaining it takes too long? If youre so impatient to have it maybe you should make your own rom and see how hard they work, but since you probably cant you shoulc wait patiently like everyone else and thank [MENTION=1792279]ivicask[/MENTION] and the crew for even bringing sense 5 to a device that didnt even get sense 4!!!
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
dude i am very grateful for what they have done

I just dont get the idea of keeping normal people away from it
[HTC Sensation] astar26:
That is called standards. Most devs do release betas, but because Team Venom want to keep their quality high and not have people complaining over and over again about the same problems, they want to release it as bug free as possible. It's like a manufacturer not releasing a device before it is ready.

Also, in your first post you said that this is against open source spirit. But as long as they release the open source part, there is no problem with this. They created libs by themselves to make the ROM work, and it is their Intelectual Property. This topic was discussed about a month and a half ago, and it is Team Venom's decision to release it or not to.

And you said most people use it as a second phone so there is no problem with having broken functionality. I (and many others I belive) are still using the sensation as a daily driver).

And back to the beginning - Team Venom made standardsfor themselves - They won't release a ROM until it is ready to be released. As someone who does not like broken ROMs, I find this great as it keeps the ROM desireable for me and I will be able to flash it with everybody before hearing everything about it.

BTW - Team Venom and the beta testers are normal people too (unless they have superpowers - that takes the 'normal' out of them)
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
cla

I belive you agree with the fact that beta testing is for the better of the rom and rom is for people

Keep a beta team

listen to comments of them only about the rom

but provide the rom to everyone

and let me tell you this is the only ph that i have and the beta rom is my daily driver

and what i meant was that sensation is not primary rom of venom group they focus more on other better phones and that is a good thing but that results in slow release of roms

I believe in that case they should make that rom available to everyone

we just love this rom and i check this forum every 2-3 hours thats how i got my hands on beta leak

if they are so inclined on releasing a perfect build they should not have announced it 3 months prior to their expected date of release or they should have let everyone use the rom

and with normal people i meant rom users not team members and beta testers

DK

Sharing is caring
[HTC Sensation] nitsuj17:
The Chinese kang has stolen both venom apps and tweaks as wellbas proprietary libs that the team developed to make sense5 work correctly

Supporting it or defending the thief who works on it is a slap in the face to the REAL developers here! Without the leak that rom couldn't exist...and because that forum could care less about following anything resembling rules or licensing they allow that atrocity of a rom to exist

As for remote wiping your phone...we aren't evil

However we can tell who is using kangs and who is using official roms, and it's getting near the point where some house cleaning is done and don't be surprised if your device is permanently blocked from accessing hub as a result of appearing on the list of kang rom users...meaning you can never access hub again even on the official roms

We don't like to do things like that, but with theft and users supporting theft, a line has to be drawn somewhere
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
s

I am not using the chinese kanged version

i am using team venoms beta rom

and i dont need the hub

i like it htc stock way
[HTC Sensation] nitsuj17:
either way show some respect to real developers and stop supporting garbage, that is all
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
d

Its not the garbage i am talking about

its their own product the beta version of the rom

and i respect them for still supporting this 2 year old phone

all i am saying is it(beta version) should be available to every one
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
How are you so sure we cant initiate remote wipe ? Which also includes your SD card ? :)

There is nothing we cant do, but we are again not such a$$holes..
[HTC Sensation] boleguc:
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[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
s

Its simple

Because i dont use internet

And the rom is lovely and everything works awesome

All I am saying is that you should release the beta version for everyone
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
How do you know, there isnt a time bomb coded in which on expiration date wipes entire phone ? :)

And also, its not perfect yet, and not for everyone's daily use...

But i guess your have pretty low standards for working phone when you dont even use internet on it..
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
S

lol funny that

yes its not perfect but we have been waiting quite long and the beta alone would make us a lot happy

is it not possible to release it for everyone and you could listen about bugs from your group of beta testers?
[HTC Sensation] hunt:
DK, strategy is simple, you're working on AOSP/AOKP/CM/PA.Your working method and Venom's working methods are different.

Venom never post anything without Tweaks, you know that!! That's the only Reason for this Big Delay. You are right at your Place, But Venom isn't wrong also. Of course, this Project will reveal, not today but soon, but keeping some patience will not harm you at all. ATM, ROM isn't fully working, whichever Beta you using was wayyyy old, there are many changes have been done under the hood. So, better to stay tuned and have a little patience and Please have some trust in Venom.

Even we are also waiting :)
[HTC Sensation] trackattaker:
I agree to a certain point...for me there's a certain charm and joy of flashing weeklies or nightlies and discussing fixed bugs or newly discovered bugs. But this is the way team Venom rolls. And we should respect that. I wouldn't like a bunch of noobs (or just too lazy to use search) spamming the forums with the same questions and complaints.

I have to confess...I flashed the Chinese Kang version to day just to get a dose of sense 5. And even though the bugs don't really interfere with using it as a daily rom until ViperS 5 comes out, I just couldn't keep it for more than an hour . I don't like things half way finished or finished in a hurry (be it for the lack of a working camera, or Bluetooth, or the lack of tweaks) , with no one to report bugs to, or to ask for help.

Let's just keep the thread clean and without insults. Who wants to talk about leaked betas, kangs and such, should do it in private.
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
e

Oh yes ofcourse I have faith in you and I am very grateful for your support and development

But people would just love the beta version believe me

But then again its your choice and world would be a better place if we share everything
[HTC Sensation] kinghunki:
Please speak note, what is the thief? Which development did not steal from HTC? Are development are all apply for authorization to HTC did? And my ROM only a China amateur open, didn't come here to disturb viper team threads, and my application has been submitted to viper team authorization, ivicask is also the default!

I also stated in this thread: my ROM only to experience, please wait for the Viper team official version of sense5!

During this period I have closed my personal website! Do you still want me to do? We don't have the power of the development? We can't have a try? Have to wait for the viper team ROM? ? If this is a thief, can you tell me which a developer is not a thief?
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
e

I agree with you

In the end everyone is using htc for development

its open sourcing and every one should share what they are good in

And I personally believe you can do better than team venom

All the best for it
[HTC Sensation] bilal_liberty:
Come on guys leave this discussion. I have tested the upcoming ROM (on c2) and compared with HTC one. Its a perfect ROM which will give a sensation new look and you guys will not need to buy HTC one to taste sense 5. With 4.2 on HTC one there r only minor differences like toggles which does not matters much.

I'll give +10 to ivicask!!
[HTC Sensation] ivicask:
I also agree with you, its not "steal "

But this is XDA with its rules which define it as a "steal", so dont publish it or discuss about it here, do it on another form which permits such behavior or make your own website

Thats also what i said kinghunki, if you want to release rom on your private site, i dont have much against it, just dont bring it to XDA :)
[HTC Sensation] valkyrie12:
I dont understand why XDA has a problem with it when venom team does not and calling someone thief is not justified
[HTC Sensation] kinghunki:
Yes, but there are still a lot of people here blame I am a thief, as a developer (although the technology is very poor), but I also have the power to develop?

It took me nearly four months to transplant Sense5, although there are a lot of bugs, but I just want to wait for snake full ROM leisure time to experience and familiar with Sense5 in advance!

If Venom leave HTC Sensation the development, we should throw away their mobile phone?

I'm very respect and admire Venom team, they for the HTC Sensation the create miracles!
[HTC Sensation] Augusta77:
I respect every developer. Let it be team venom or kinghunki. They are working hard for us only to have best experience on our Sensation. Calling any developer a thief is huge disrespect. And not only disrespect, it could hurt someone's dignity and self respect. There are other ways to deal with the copied stuff here on XDA. Why just hurt someone by throwing disrespectful personal comments.
[HTC Sensation] hkhs10811:
老兄，我覺得沒必要和這裡的開發者爭論了。

你的實力我們會中文的看的懂中文的都很清楚，

真的很謝謝你提前讓我們的Sensation復活。

因為要等到11月才能用到ViperS實在是有點煎熬 :(

希望你能繼續加油 :)
[HTC Sensation] Sherlocks:
Because of the existence of Team Venom, my sensation is a still breathes.

Respect work. really appreciate.
[HTC Sensation] nitsuj17:
a real developer wouldnt throw the towel in because they couldnt have access to fixes that someone made through hours of their own work and time....

so if other developers have been driven off because certain venom fixes and projects weren't shared, then it just shows they were looking for a quick fix from others to release their own project

from our team's perspective...we are always looking for more people to join up and contribute to existing venom supported devices and to support new devices (team developer application here: http://venomroms.com/forums/content.php?158-Venom-Developer-Member-Application )

but many existing developers want the fame/attention/donations that go with their own named projects or teams...thats fine, but can't always have it both ways

people like to heap negative crap on Team Venom and hide behind sharing and good of the community and the like, just because in general we would like some exclusivity to the projects that we spend countless hours on
[HTC Sensation] kekkojoker90:
i don't know everythng behind the working of devs but i feel to say one thing. I think both way is correct who want the sharing and who want protect their work. This is my thought and for this reason i will respect every decision.
[HTC Sensation] berilslv:
im so excited... guy from venom u are doing great job , and these individual's dont take them in head . I want to try this rom so bad :D .

Cant u guys say date about when ur ready to relese beta , or stable.... it should be till september or after : ) ? When ill start to work , i swear, ill donate you something guys , because its sense 5.... JESUS..... SENSE 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Faithfully , Berils.
[HTC Sensation] MEM_115:
It's awesome what you guys can do with this phone. It looks fantastic, i thought that the best we'd get was sense 4+ and this came out. This is 4.1 or 4.2?

Is posible that in the future htc zoe can be implemented in the rom? I want to know if sensation's hardware can't support it.

Thanks
[HTC Sensation] ahsan64:
HTC One X+ didn't get zoe feature ..So i think impossible for sensation , and also due to hardware incompatibility ..
[HTC Sensation] NimDint:
It's Android 4.1.2 and even the one x official update didn't support zoe.. so it probably won't be supported
[HTC Sensation] mhoss48:
Zoe needs small pictures to be used, the 4MP cam on the One captures smaller images.