yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] AarSyl:
Hot dog! Downloading right now!

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I would actually suggest that you flash the new bootloader, if you haven't done so already. Then flash his Lollipop Rom like any other.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] L.F.B.:
Good damn!

So scott Ive just do factory reset and flash it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
AS long as you got the 4.0.4 bootloader I would say do it!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] L.F.B.:
No I havent... I have to flash it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
I would
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Whileitlasted:
*ahem* How do I flash a new bootloader? Do I need to update my Twrp recovery too?*ahem*
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Onraad:
I would suggest you update TWRP to the latest version, 2.8.1.0 I believe. To update the bootloader, use fastboot (power+vol up) and use the bat file provided in the lollipop thread. It's just one click if you're on windows :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] idCyber:
Volume down :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] fluidj:
I've been on Clean Rom for so long I have completely forgotten how to do this....

Do you have a link with straightforward instructions? What do you mean it's just one click if you're on windows? Do I have to run some program on my computer while plugged into the tablet in order to do this?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Onraad:
Ooops, thanks for the correction :)

1. Download 4.0.4 bootloader

2. Unpack .zip using program of your choice

3. Shut down tablet, boot up using power+vol DOWN to use fastboot

4. Connect tablet to PC using cable

5. Click Update-Bootloader.bat and wait 1 sec

6. Tablet is now using 4.0.4 bootloader and lollipop-ready :)

Credit for the bootloader .bat-file goes to [MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION]
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] fluidj:
Thanks. Doesn't seem to be responsive unfortunately :(

Been "Waiting For Device" for several minutes now.

Do I need to do anything once i'm in fastboot?? There's a big flag with the word START...but when I select that it just reboots.

My current bootloader version is FLO-4.02... will this one work?

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Eff it..I went in with 4.0.2 bootloader....

No admin priv on my work PC and I bet that's why I can't get the new bootloader via fastboot...

current status..

"Android is upgrading... Optimizing app xx of 176"

looks like it's working....
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] jstn76rs:
I would recomend a different usb port then just run the bat file.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] conqueror_25:
Is there any necessary drivers for Nexus 7 installed in your pc to be able to run the . bat file and update the bootloader successfully?

Thank you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] fluidj:
I think my issue is that it needs to be ran as Administrator. I don't have Admin privileges on my work PC unfortunately :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Onraad:
That could be an issue. I don't think 'special' drivers are needed because I'm on a laptop from work and the drivers that windows installed automatically work fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] vali_ics:
Look in the device manager for an '!' . You need a driver fire adb. I can't find it right now because I forget the name. Just look in the device manager and look on google for them.

Here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html

Download zip file, go in the device manager,right click on the warning driver '!' , update - local - select the unzip folder - after you can update bootloader.

I just did like this yesterday.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] fluidj:
Thanks! I'll try it from home. So far, i'm doing fine with lollipop running over the 4.0.2 bootloader.

Not sure if it was just a precautionary measure that folks have stated you need 4.0.4 or what....
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Titchener17:
have an old chromebook may check on progress of tricking it out to be able to perform similar functions. seems to be the only time need a Windows pewter outside of work is at the onset of more device greatness thanks to awesome devs/folks like Scott...having trouble though was working at one point..maybe already flashed said bootloader - or is it brand new 2 ? so fresh and so Clean Clean ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] mindmajick:
Can someone hold my hand? I don't feel like reading or searching or thinking for myself. I'm on a development site but I expect y'all to develop FOR ME ONLY.

LMAO.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] TheIronMaiden:
Give me your hand , Majick. I'll take gooooood care of you :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Ok, lets not turn this thread into a **** hole because the Stock Root thread is.

Yes, I am very agitated... I build ROMS. I dont fix stupid.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] TheIronMaiden:
I don't blame you. Mindmajick and I will help weed out the jackwagons
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] renepela:
First of all a big thank you for the 5.0 rom.

I tried to install it and everything worked fine. It took a very long time to start the first time but after that it looks great.

Unfortunately I seem to have a few problems. Not sure if it's lollipop related or specific to this rom.

1) I don't have root. I probably did something wrong. ( i did not do a full wipe and installed the rom using twrp 2.7.0)

2) Unfortunately I can't use the email app anymore for my email. I have to use gmail for that. Not a big deal, however somehow gmail does seem to have a limit for the number of mails. It loads most of my mails but I'm missing the last few months and gmail shows a connection problem warning. However I do have internet connectivty so the connection is fine. And if the connection is a problem, why does it load the older mails and not the newer ones?

3) I use the agenda list of the advanced power widget. (APW pro). Unfortunately it doesn't work in lollipop. It has graphical problems.

Overall I quite like lollipop, but a few things annoy me.

I don't like the playstation like buttons and I don't like the fact that I can't see the notifications as ones. I have to pull it down in two steps.

Als the long press option of the most right icon no longer works. It always shows the taskmanager (which is a quite nice one by the way)

Also lollipop is a bit laggy sometimes.

In gmail I can not see all my emails in one few. I have three email accounts and although I can switch between them, I can't see all my mails in one view with colors for each mailbox.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Onraad:
1. Probably related to not doing a full wipe and not using TWRP 2.8.1;

2. Email app is redundant now that gmail supports exchange;

3. Developer should update the app, I don't think it has anything to do with this ROM.

I would suggest a full wipe, update TWRP and try again :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] renepela:
I will do a full wipe this evening and update to twrp 2.8.1

Hopefully this will also fix the problems I have with gmail not showing all my emails.

Still I don't like gmail. I only use exchange accounts and the email app was perfect for this.

Now I'm forced to use gmail, I can't see all my emails in one view and I also can't hide the gmail account I have to use for the play store. That account doesn't sync email, but still I can't hide it in the gmail app.

Anyhow. Has nothing to do with this rom off course but with some choices google made. I'm not sure yet if everything in lollipop is an improvement.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Your in the wrong the thread. I have two 5.0 ROM threads. This one is 4.4.4.

Pick the correct thread and post there.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] ganggreen30:
Hey Scrosler they say android 5.0 is encrypted by default then why is there still an option to encrypt tablet in the final release?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] mindmajick:
It is encrypted by default on android devices designed for 5.0 (nexus 9)

For upgraded devices it is not. (Nexus 5 & 7 and current GPE phones like the m8).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Looks like someone already reported the thread so it will be gone soon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
Has anyone tried OTA survival on this? I want to know my best option for upgrading without a clean wipe.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Whileitlasted:
Just wonder would there be a Lollipop cleanrom?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] andy_rose:
Let the man do his magic. It will come when it is ready.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Whileitlasted:
I am not demanding or rushing scrosler anything. Asked because I was thinking to flash the factory stock rooted rom 5.0. Now I will just wait for the cleanrom version since I love it so much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] busventinc:
Super stoked Scott looking foward to the next episode of clean rom
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] andy_rose:
Fair enough mate[emoji3]
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Working all this weekend. Have 1 day off and will probably need to work some O/T on that day.

Hard to say.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] shantaram77:
I have 3.8 installed and I continue to receive message about 5.0 OTA.... What can I do? Can I update? I hope in clean rom lollipop version
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
good luck getting an answer, I've asked myself. probably we'd lose root tho..I think ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Its been answered every 5 times a new Android version comes out.

You simply need to delete OTAcerts.zip form ./system/etc/????

Then reboot clear cache and if it pops up hold down on the notification, select options and uncheck show notifications.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
so don't run the update?

great, I'll wait on your good work ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
The update will fail hard, lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Well guys and girls...

I need some input here...

I have pretty much mastered AOSP and the edits at source level that I would use to make CleanROM from. Big thanks to [MENTION=3667193]GROGG88[/MENTION] for that.

So... I am actually thining about making CleanROM 4... A souce built base with The typical tweaks and Gapps included.

Or I can go the other route and keep CleanROM as a Clean'ed Up stock ROM (which is my normal mantra on any device)...

Or hell, I could try both!

Just would like some input on what you think would be cool.

Remember, I am only asking for input... Not counting votes so ultimately I will make final call.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] swieder711:
Stock ROM with the CleanROM magic is my preference. I will try what ever you decide.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] millerthyme2g0:
Same here.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Via PM and Google Hangouts that is also what I am hearing...

I may just try both yet keep CleanROM as the standard.

Others may feel free to input!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] L.F.B.:
Me too you clean rom twiks are fukin good! :D :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] PhoneLine:
Stock with clean rom magic would be my preference also.

But aside from that. .... thank you for all your hard work! :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
I have a strong feeling how this is going to go :angel: :good: :highfive:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] rajeeshrj:
Hurray!!!

Somehow I like the sound of it:D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Indeed!

I guess that is why XDA lets us do more than one post per section :angel:

I have a very strong feeling this will be just like all the ROMS before it, a strong Google lineage with a tightly integrated "CleanROM" affect! :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] atilla88:
I think cleanrom is a great experience on our nex7 so +1 for stock with some scrosler love in it :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Fair enough... Stock is how I will approach it!

Be prepared!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] duryard:
Stock Rom with CleanRom Magic. In the vein of It aint broke, don't need fixing.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] treo4life:
I feel the same way, stock and clean Scott. .
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] weinbers:
Although I seem to be in the minority, I'd like to see the tweaks included. Or at least installable as an additional zip file. Either way, looking forward to it!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] JaceAlvejetti:
Late to the party but stock with love
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] demol3:
I think that providing the flashable tweak with a cleaned rom is my choice, but I dont mind tweaks included as your rom is very fast:D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] wmuflyer:
From comments in the source built thread it sounds like it's already super smooth so I think building from there would be great. Although your rooted stock build is nice but AOSP has several updates already.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] AarSyl:
Cleaned up stock is the way to go in my eyes. Someone else will build it with tweaks and whatnot.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Barthlon:
Am I reading this wrong or...?

We are choosing between AOSP (=stock) with tweaks and Gapps or Google ROM with tweaks (and thus Gapps), right?

CleanRom was always based on Google ROM with the addition of tweaks (right?) and now you're considering changing the base to AOSP?

That's how I understand it :p

Only question here for me is: WHAT exactly is the difference between pure AOSP and a Google ROM (apart from Gapps)? :p
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] GROGG88:
Launcher, Dialer, Keyboard, System Apps, DRM, Google GPS... Anything missing from the Google firmware can be added into the AOSP build.

The big difference to consider here in the decision is the fact that Stock only updates so often, where as AOSP will receive continual source updates. It takes Google out of the process of waiting for new factory images.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] The_Zodiac:
agreed with tweaks, or pure with installable mods
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] GROGG88:
[MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION], have you considered adding a poll to the OP to track votes?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] dark2099:
He was not intending to track votes, mostly see what public opinion was and if it would sway him one way or another.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Lexord:
Personally I think the AOSP option is better, there is something about lollipop that is visibly better on aosp (your builds) than stock ..

I would be happy with any tho ??

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Nah, was just doing this to keep the thread moving and see what people thought about a base change.

Ive recived the message, on forum over Google Hangouts, PM, etc...

CleanROM will not change... It will continue to be CleanROM, a Clean'ed up purified stock ROM.

However, I will prolly make a separate AOSP mock CleanROM for those that want to try it.

THis is my observation too. AOSP builds do "seem" smoother and I cannot figure out if its my imagination or not.

IM going to do some experimenting and plotting today to come up with a rough draft of what I am going to create.

Thanks for all the feedback!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Barthlon:
That sounds wonderful. Even though source may feel a bit smoother (would be logical), I think I like almost all Google additions..

So a CleanRom as it is/was would be my vote ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] php5_developer:
Stock cleanrom is an amazing job you put together!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] jblaze10:
Asop cleanpop for me please!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Thats what I was thinking about calling my AOSP build, CleanPOP!

Weekend is almost here!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] cunn8780:
So excited to get clean pop soon!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] TheIronMaiden:
Hey, how about "Clop" ? Huh? Or......"LolliClean" ? Haha.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] jblaze10:
Lolliclean killer name also, I see a poll in the making!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] ooonimrodooo:
CleanROM L. Keep it clean and simple.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
There are some AWESOME ideas here...

I appreciate the feedback!

I have not built yet and am still watching the thread so get your opinion in before i build! :highfive: :good: :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] 53l3c7a:
cLeanROM... Too subtle?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
I get it ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Barthlon:
Skip 4.0 and call it CleanROM 5.0. In line with Android numbers... ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] remag6383:
How about--- L CleanRom 5.0
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] andy_rose:
Actually that is a good idea
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] psmit69:
I see, just like the K CleanRom 3.8 naught!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Walgeon:
With so many issues with 5.0 I'm downgrading to 4.4.4. Miss this ROM. just wondering if I need to completely wipe everything or if I can just install like normal?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] AarSyl:
Install like normal. At least try it. If it starts to acts wonky, then wipe internal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] dark2099:
I would do a clean wipe, when I was talking with Scott when he was first doing the dev previews, he mentioned the system setup had changed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
apparently there's a flaw that's existed in every prior version of android until 5.0, it's called BroadAnywhere and you can read about it here:

www.cmcm.com/blog/en/security/2014-11-15/468.html

they're the only company that seem to be warning us about it tho, so take from that what you will. But in any case I'm sticking with Android 5.0
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] sfreemanoh:
Yeah, since they're also promoting their own apps to "protect" against it, I'm taking the whole thing with a grain of salt. Maybe even a full tablespoon full of salt.

I've been kind of away from the scene for a while (CleanROM has been working flawlessly on my N7 2013 and M8, so I've had no reason to look for updates), but since 5.0 has been out for a while, I'm looking to update my devices. I'll be sticking with CleanROM since it hasn't failed me yet, so add me to the list of people waiting (mostly) patiently for the 5.0 update!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Gnivol:
How about LeCleanRom 5.0
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] MaxyDad:
Clean LolliRom. (Whatever it's called, it'll no doubt be great.)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] psmit69:
CleanRom 5.0
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] The_Zodiac:
gonna have to call bs on this one...

looks super clickbaity
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Pandae:
CleanROM Five-0, after a TV show I grew up watching.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] GROGG88:
Ha! You've just dated yourself... Just imagine how many heads that flew over.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] mindmajick:
How about CleanSucker 1.0?

Only synonym to lollipop I could think of lol.

Nah.. lol. The kids saw the "reboot" :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] afonsov:
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop rumored for late December release with many Bug Fixes

http://goo.gl/N4PcdA

Sent from Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
So sad that we have to wait another month.

I think I am just going to push forward with CleanROM 4.0. I cant imagine waiting yet another month.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] AarSyl:
Agreed. I`ve even reverted back to KK for the sake of a fully functional CleanROM. Kinda missed it a little bit.

And in other news, happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it!

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[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Happy thanks giving!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Titchener17:
giving thanks !
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Pandae:
I read an article earlier talking about Lollipop issues. The headline concerned me, but it's nothing new: wifi, battery and N7 video playback issues. So I'm perfectly content to not flash Lollipop until you get a CleanROM version out. Why bother with stock when hopefully we'll see an aftermarket turbo version in the near future? :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
You see...

That is my true dilemma...

I Build CleanROM on stock... As you noted... Stock has some issues...

I want to drop a CR Based ROM but I don't want to get hit with Google's failures...

But the fact that Google admits play back failure discourages me :crying:

Lost!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
I hope that explains why I am taking so long... :p

So Sad :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Pandae:
Isn't it a matter of media player developers retooling their apps to work under 5.0? I've seen a couple of updates to MX Player, but not having upgraded, I don't know if they're to get MX Player to work again.

Video players had problems after the upgrade to 4.3, and I would have thought Google would have done everything possible to not break existing apps. But they did it all over again.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Scott:
Hmmm... I dont follow video apps as much as you do... So I let you take the lead on this... It does seem Google dropped the ball again. Correct me if I am wrong (Will not be offended)

-Scott :highfive:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Pandae:
Not being a developer, all I know is that 4.3 "broke" just about every video player out there. For the first few days, the only couple that worked could do so only in software rendering mode. Why it happened, I don't know. But it was very disappointing because one would surmise Google's developers would have used some of these apps in their testing, discovered that the release would leave people unable to play videos for the first while, then released 4.3 anyway, having punted the responsibility to the app developers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] Lexord:
Maybe not relevant but VLC player is just as good as MX Player and works perfectly on Lollipop.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] BottleB:
Hey guys -

im kinda of tired of Lollipop...can't use XBMC anymore!

I want to try this rom here. I am rooted and have TWRP.

Is it possible to flashback to 4.4.4 from TWRP? Or will the bootloader cause issues? i don't really care about my data..

Thanks for your time

Edit : FYI flashed through TWRP and it downgraded fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] afonsov:
Latest version of MX Player is already updated to work with lollipop.

Sent from Nexus 7

---------- Post added at 10:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:08 PM ----------

I would prefer to have a Lollipop CleanROM with the current stock issues than to have just the normal stock version (which is my current ROM). One or the other would have the known issues, so a cleaned up version would be better than stock.

Just my two cents. :)

Sent from Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
just flash the 4.4.4 factory image, no?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] afonsov:
I was talking about lollipop, not kitkat. I like lollipop, although it has some issues. In my case it eats battery faster than kitkat, it starts to have some lag after a while after booting, some video playback issues, "ok google" worked in the beginning but now is deaf, etc.

Sent from Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
sorry, I meant [MENTION=1092557]BottleB[/MENTION] above you
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] BottleB:
Yah didn't feel like going through it.

Plus I'm at the in-laws and had no PC access.

?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Android Development] live_0978:
mods delete