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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Punkid:
ok, a question for the owners, is the frame on the side metal or plastic?

Sony says its metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJmYvCP5uWI

it says glass front and back, held by metal frame.

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z-ultra/features/#undefined

here is says SOLID METAL PANELS.

On the other hand, angelofmusic in her video said its plastic that doesnt feel cheap.

So owners, is it metal or is it plastic ?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] darth5zaft:
Just finished watching your video on the ZU. Which is quite informative. And thanks for doing the measurement.

What I can say is that despite the weird score on those measurements, the ZU screen is really that great and it puzzles me. What people had to realised is that benchmark, measurement are a tool and most of the time reflex real life performance. But some time, like the ZU and Probably the nexus 4, which sucks on all benchmark but it is really smooth.

ZU is a great device, but still Sony still need to make some sacrifices to hit their sales prices goal. ZU, at least in Malaysia is already cheaper than HTC ONE.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] angelofmusic:
No, you can't even compare bench marks to colorimetric measurements. Colorimetric measurements is an exact science. Benchmarks certainly are not and are subjective in that a small disturbance in performance can change the result. This is just not so with display measurements. They tell what is. Benchmarks tell you what can be. GREAT BIG DIFFERENCE.

The thing here is whether you like the processing or not. Many things look great on this display, however, you will see times when things don't look right and that is due to the black level and the gamma being low for midtones. Some skintones look too bright, especially those who are light skinned often look ghostly washed out.

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It's metal but looks and feels like plastic. The white one looks more premium. The white one is silver on the side and actually looks like metal. I think the brushed appearance is making it look more like plastic. It's not Samsung cheap looking though so don't get me wrong.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Punkid:
Haha ok, but you really undermine the good points of the ZU, in the really short encounter i had with it, it was, to me, best feeling phone ive ever held, better than One and iPhone 5.

Amyway, angelofmusic , i also commented on the video asking if you could bring HTC One in that closet test, i want to see a comparison of the black levels
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
This. It would be awesome if you could take one or several devices with LCD displays into your closet and see how they perform.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] unk_damnation:
To be precise, AMOLEDs didn't "produce" deep blacks.. They produce nothing on a "black" pixel :D

On an interesting note, remember the wake-freeze problem? If you look closely when the ZU wakes and the screen is blank, you can see the LCD becomes a very "bright black". Coincidence? Software problem? Or just the natural properties of Triluminous tech? Err let's wait for the X-Reality firmware..

True that. Just like some people likes instagram-esque pictures while others judge they're overprocessed. If you're doing graphic editing with a display that calibrated as such, it's not gonna work :p But hey, the age of "real" photoshop-in-a-pocket is not even close yet :D

We use such device for multimedia viewing purpose anyway, so this is something that need to be judged with the device hands-on.

Closet war, commence :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Prepio:
it's plastic all around. On both side, plastic is covered by metal frame
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ali zaki:
i can't update my firmware.

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Why i can't update my ultra with 475?.always fails in third step
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wrxdrunkie:
So here is the million dollar question. For those of us that receive our ZU and think the screen looks really great. Should we throw these scientific measurements out the door for future scenarios? From reading your posts I am expecting to be dissatisfied with the screen because of your "scientific measurements". It will be interesting to see if your data ends up making more people believers of these measurements and the usefulness or if it has the exact opposite affect.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lee480:
Don't worry. Galaxy phones have AMOLED displays that are oversaturated and have a blue tint, yet the people love it. I don't see AngelOfMusic going round Samsung forums terrorizing them about Galaxy's inaccurate displays. So don't worry!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
She didn't say that she hates the screen (in her video). She said she loves it, but blacks in the dark are a bummer. Personally, i don't care that much. I'm currently using my Note with an AMOLED screen and it's pretty nice to have those deep blacks, but the rest of the colors are way over saturated. I'll take a screen with more natural colors and a little lighter black any day.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
More info on the display techology from the Engadget review:

"Since this is our first encounter with a Triluminos smartphone, let's offer a brief explanation as to what the tech offers. These displays recently reappeared in Sony TVs after a lengthy absence -- the technology was dropped in 2009 due to its high costs -- so it was a pleasant surprise to see it show up on smaller devices so quickly. It's an RGB LED technology that employs the use of QD Display's quantum dots -- nanoparticles that emit very specific wavelengths of light. Each dot measures between 2nm and 10nm. Rather than using a white backlight which passes through RGB filters to create the intended color, the display uses a blue LED that stimulates quantum dots which emit pure green and pure red. In short, this new technique is supposed to create exceptionally pure colors."
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Punkid:
Got to play with a ZU today, thought i'd share the pictures :P

Really like the size, felt excellent in the hand. Not too big for my hands.

Compared to an Xperia Arc

Showing skin :p

Finally, crotch pics... fits easily in my pants with a minimal footprint. Also fit in my friends pants easily.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Zuber:
Useful Pics PunKid.

May I ask how tall you are ?

So you can comfortably sit in the car without it digging into you ? Sounds promising.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Punkid:
I'm just shy of 6"2 ... The first crotch pic is me, and even the impression of the phone that you see is because that leg is lifted a bit.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
I just watched Phone Arena's Ultra Vs Galaxy Mega video, and just look at those tiny humongous hands of the reviewer :p The Ultra looks normal in his hands!

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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
You have to consider that you can easily tweak the saturation on the note but try making the blacks darker on the Sony. ..not happening.

In any case.. due to the lame 5.7 note 3 screen. ..I might be joining the Sony family

Sent from the Mighty Note 2!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Display test/comparison

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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Zuber:
As mentioned elsewhere, you can see alot of grey at angles on indoor with full brightness in the video. Not sure if you would actually use it on full indoors though.

That alone wouldn't really impact my buying choice anyway...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] AntiLazarus:
In my experience, you can see a lot of gray on any LCD display at large diagonal angles when on full brightness. As you say, it's not a very realistic scenario. I generally keep brightness at 30% or below indoors.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] olixman:
Hello,

I would like to buy the Xperia Z Ultra, becouse of it`s large and (apparently) great display.

This is because i do like to do some sort of RAW photo developing on a "large" display, without the need to carry a small laptop/tablet with me.

So should i buy it or not?

Thank you :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] corrado85:
Yes, you have my blessing
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] cenkaetaya:
Hi has anyone who put a screen protector on it had issues with the proximity sensor?

I got my Wife the Xperia Z (which she now exchanged for an S4) because when we put a screen protector on it the proximity sensor stopped sensing when she took her ear away during a call. Leaving the screen black and no way to end the call or do anything untill the other person ended it.

I am interested in this phone but hearing about the black screen issues, (my wife's recent experience with the Z), and also she had VERY high battery usage on standby. The phone dropped something like 5-8% battery per hour just laying on the table. This is even after about 5-8 battery cycles. Reading about the battery on Zultra it seems like some people are having this issue as well. could that also be a defect?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] brosenz:
I have one installed on mine, no problems at all with the proximity sensor, there is a hole though
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] toonhead85:
My Additions: Multi-Part Review

So I received my Xperia Z Ultra in the post today!! So far, I want to say that it is quite the device. The lack of flash for the camera or LTE (I got the C6802 because it was cheaper) don't matter because the rest of the experience is solid. The phone feels nice in the hand and with the addition of Swiftkey for Tablets, I have a split keyboard & flow!!

Some of the "bloatware" is uninstallable, which is a nice addition. 3 apps were for the Chinese market and uninstallable!! One office app (forget which one) is also uninstallable. Everything else seems to be useful therefore I kept for the time being.

Games run smooth!! I have tested Riptide GP2 and The Walking Dead: Assault and the experience on a larger screen (1080p) is amazing!! I have also installed Playstation Mobile to test out other games as well as the Dualshock controller (once I get the OEM cable).

Themes are nice and the "quick settings" add a special layer of customization. It feels like Sony has taken some really good hints from teams like CM and PA to make a stock feeling, elegant ROM.

So far, it has been a really nice addition to my collection - but I am still doing updates so I'll write more when they are done!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] bASKOU:
SD card read/write 28/>50 is about internal memory? kinda amazing, x2/3 speed of all devices i tested (lastest is the Note 2 of my wife)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rockstar1630:
Sharing pictures of my xperia z ultra:

Dealing with sony customer service in India was nothing short of an ordeal. For 20 days, I had to fight to get my money back. Finally got a cheque yesterday of the full amount paid. No response from Sony. They are hell bent on saying that this black is 'black', not grey. Indeed, watching a movie in dark was an extremely disappointing experience. Sony though offered me a replacement, and I checked brand new 3 z ultras side by side in a dark room. All had varying contrast ratios, none of them being able to reproduce blacks correctly. Though all three handsets had 'grey levels' :D better than the handset I returned. There are no black levels indeed. Further, I could not find any warmer display piece (so called yellow tint) which, though pictures posted in this thread', seems reproducing acceptable black levels.

Anyways, this disaster of a display (only because of black levels) in not suited for me and I feel using it as if am using an inferior product from ages ago where black were greys on LCD televisions of yore.

P.S. If someone can help me in finding a z ultra which has perfect blacks, am interested in buying as the rest of the specs match my needs.

Is there any way sony listens to this. Infact in the new update, they have changed their menu color from black to white. Any indications? Am sure sony is mighty aware of the (extremely) poor contrast ratio.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avionion:
Z Ultra contrast ratio

GSM Arena have posted their full review and their measurements of contrast are 1001 at 100% brightness. here is the link

(sorry cant post a link yet, due to forum limitations)

Someone here did the measurements too and I guess they were around 600. Either there is great disparity among the displays of Z Ultra or these measurement methods are not comparable.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Nuwidol:
I read the review earlier. They also had black levels on par with the amoled displays. After seeing some videos of users displays with C6802 handsets I can say for certain that those displays did not have anywhere near those kind of black levels.

Fingers crossed that the C6833 does not have any issues with the screens when they're released next week....

Edit: here's the review
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
LOL, here's the NON-MOBILE link for people on a computer :p

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z_ultra-review-975p3.php
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] deveron3:
The problem with what appears to be every dissenting opinion on this thread:

Trying to refute objective measurements with subjective opinions.

I hate to see our esteemed XDA TV Producer get talked down to as though she is the ignorant one.

She has made an honest effort to provide the measurements, so show some bloody respect!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] troncoloco:
how about coverage wifi compared with samsung note 2?

Greeting
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] soupmagnet:
Okay first of all, you may agree or disagree all you want, but keep it civil. Some of the off handed comments I've seen in here are uncalled for, and add nothing constructive to the discussion. You know who you are and I'll leave it at that.

Second, if you have a problem with something someone says, ignore it, report it, or respond to it in a mature and respectful manner. Please, do not take it upon yourself to try and reprimand anyone. It is not your place to do so. If someone says something that you feel you cannot ignore or respond to in a mature and respectful manner, report it and let the Moderators handle it. Do not get involved. It only compounds the issue further, and someone like me has to come in here and spend their free time to clean up the resulting mess.

I am reopening the thread, but please, let's keep it civil (I'm watching you).

Thank you, and have a great day :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Guzprom:
Washed colors

I've been playing with a sample phone in a shop nearby. I've found the colors a bit dull and washed, somewhat not vivid.. I was comparing a few videos in YouTube and imdb such as Thor and other trailers with note 2 and iPhone 5. Z ultra seems so inferior...

Is this inherent to the display or was it defective unit being displayed? Anyone else notices this?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] AntiLazarus:
Personal preference plays a strong role here, but I have many friends with iPhone 5 and a couple with Note 2, and while it's only my opinion, I am not jealous of their displays. We may be using terms in different ways here; by "washed out," you may simply mean that the colors are not as insanely saturated as an AMOLED. If that is the case, then I agree. If it ACTUALLY looks washed out, i.e., it looks hazy or has very low contrast, there is probably something wrong with the unit.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Guzprom:
Actually. It's not about saturation. I've been comparing it with my friend's iPhone cause I didn't want amoled over saturation to be a factor. My friend thought the color was dull as well as we were both playing the same hd trailer. maybe it's just a faulty unit. I will try to find another show unit in another shop before upgrading my note 2..
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] AntiLazarus:
Again, all due respect, I think a lot of people, possibly including you, possibly not, have simply become so accustomed to Samsung's extremely unnatural colors, that they interpret any display that doesn't look like that to be "washed out" or "dull," when in reality, they're only seeing a less artificial image. I have been nothing short of thrilled with the Z Ultra's display, and everyone I've shown it to (including Note 2 owners) compliments the display. Not one person has remarked that it looked dull, and it's frankly hard for me to believe that there could be so many "defective" units coming from the factory. I think people's eyes have just been mis-calibrated by AMOLED.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
For the people that are using the Yahoo weather app, check this ridiculous detail.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Guzprom:
I don't believe so. I am using MacBook Pro with retina and iPad 3 for work everyday including sending this message, they are superb and has more realistic colors. Keep marveling at the Mac each time I change wallpaper. So, with all sincerity, I don't think my eye re calibrated to amoled. Just don't know why the sample I saw isn't as vibrant as many have remarked. That's why I come here for answers.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] AntiLazarus:
I don't know then; usually a defective display will have much more obvious shortcomings than simply "less vivid" colors. But properly functioning Z Ultras are widely reputed to have very vivid displays. It's a very strange suggestion that multiple units are coming from the factory with "soft" colors if the hardware is not defective and they're running the same software. Differences in subjective perception seems a much more likely explanation to me.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] waragi:
Two different panels for the same phone?!.

Sony will never admit to something like this.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hellasosfp:
Hi to all of you. It's a great phone..today I went to see it in a shopmobile and I show that mine sony z ultra is not so bright and his colors not so real as th z ultra of mobile shop. I compare them side.to side and I show that I have 14.2.a.1.36 and the z ultra of the mobile shop had a previous version and his white was better too clear than mine, mine mine was like goes to light grey...sorry for my English. Please what can I do? The other.phone had better.and much alive colors than mine.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Doesn't 136 have a white balance option? Try to adjust it there and see if it gets any better. Also note that no screens are alike, so one screen can be brighter than the next one etc.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hellasosfp:
i had adjusted but it was again a bit darknest . Bythe way i realised today when i went to service that sony had made a lot of diferrent screen ... in service they bring an another ultra in new condition ,they open it and fingure wthat ? it was darkest than mine !!! :laugh: and we compair all the options ,in three days i meet 3 diferend screens with the same options ....
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] waragi:
Maybe the screens are not calibrated?(should the Be?)

My ultra when I first got it the black was very whitish, after the last update to 4.3 (c6833) there was a big improvement.

Enough for me to keep the phone(lol)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] polandmati89:
gaming lag

Hello everyone. I am new member of xda forum and also new user of Sony Xperia Z Ultra C6833. And something really bothers me. Does anyone have the same problem as mine. I ve noticed lags when gaming (asphalt 8 and dead trigger 2). There is some annoying frame drops while gaming. My z ultra is stock ( stock rom stock kernel android 4.4.4). I am the owner of galxy s3, nexus 7 2013, and budget tablet with intel atom 2x2.0 power vr 544 mp 2 and on this devices it looks like running much smoother. I know there is a big difference in resolution but nexus 7 has worse cpu and gpu and the same resolution. I am not sure maybe I am overreacting but before i buy phone i ve read that it is gaming machine. Is it something wrong with my device? or maybe its software problem or optimization ? Please help and let me sleep well :) By the way I am from Europe from Poland
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
Great to know this. :) Waiting on it. Did you know when drafty it will came? :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] -SOONZAI-:
Still dont have any palm rejection when using any stylus pen?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
No, not working when using stylus pen for the moment, new firmware only solve at least palm rejection working for finger touch.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] showdown_counts:
still stuck with 14.1.B.0.471. Any ideas when the .414 will come ?

P.S : What a beautiful beautiful phone
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
Phone Size Comparison. :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gm007:
What about the battery?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
Let you know next week, but I find it quite good actually, some user report (others forum), battery life is comparable with Galaxy Mega 6.3
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Nuwidol:
Thanks for sharing.

I have one one pre order in the UK but its not released for about 6 weeks!

Have fun with your new toy :P
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] OsiBasi:
So it's got Phone UI... Not Tablet UI? Oh bummer.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] RCJ89:
How loud is the audio compared to xperia Z
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
Finally redeem the free gift. :D

Awesome leather origin flip case + 8GB microSD card + Xperia T-Shirt. :D

Flip case screenshot. :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Wishmaster89:
That looks very nice indeed :)

But I have one question. Is the magnetic connector accessible? It would be shame to remove it from the case every time you'd wan't to charge it using magnetic cable.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Andrewtst:
Nope, it has been cover.

By the way, not so soon available yet the magnetic charging dock.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Wishmaster89:
Shame, but I'm not so interested in the docking station as I'm with the charging cable itself :)

Thanks for the information. After using it for few days how do you find the battery life?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Can you buy/use the cables on their own? Id much prefer to do that than open up the port covers.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Wishmaster89:
Don't know if it'll be available separate from the dock but yes you can use it on it's own. Have a look here

Courtesy of esato forum :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] RCJ89:
how is Audio volume?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ImAnurag:
About phone screenshot of .471 firmware please ?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avetny:
Hmmm my current Firmware is .0.461 and my quadro much higher

PS

Thank you for update news....(....updating)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] liqn7:
Great Hands on vid and review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ltXlKog9bo
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ImAnurag:
Can you share the PC Companion update notification screenshot ? Needed for a blog post...if you can it would be great...needed screenshot like this as added in attachment.

After update do share the About phone screenshot and software info screenshot...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avetny:
**** too late ! I just closed everything after update
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
Thanks for the review!

I am having a hard time deciding between this monster and the upcoming Note 3.

I guess my final decision comes down to Note 3 screensize. If it is 6" or more, then I will stick with the note family but if they really come out with a tiny 5.7" (I mean, the Note's selling point for sure was screensize first with the spen) then Sony gets to the top of my list.

Flash...well, I do like the flashlight option so that is disappointing but my main concern is battery life right now.

Thanks again!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avetny:
Guys any one here able to get in to stock recovery ? Non combination of buttons are working:confused:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gm007:
There is no accessible stock recovery in xperia's phones.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avetny:
oh maan are you for real ? :eek:

thank you :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] E90 Commie:
I bought the Ultra yesterday and tried to find your flip case. Where can I get it?

You said something about redeeming it as a gift, it would be kind if you could provide some more details about it.

I will start a thread about my own Ultra later. I am configuring and charging it right now.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gunblazer:
http://y2u.be/6TgIK7Psly4

Check this out, here's a video of someone going over some light-moderate usage on their ZU. We see a 7% battery drop over 9 minutes of usage.

That works out to roughly 2.1 hours of screen time. Please tell me I have overlooked something, otherwise this phone is shaping to be a big fail! (I do not want this to be the case obviously)