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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] spsantos:
Does anybody that boughts recently verifies if the problem is solved or not so bad like first ones.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Coycaine:
Waiting on Verizon to ship my backorder. They say by April 15th, we will see. This will probably be the first thing I test and I will be sure to let the thread know.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gr8twhite:
Well, its either not a problem on my 2013 or its below my hearing threshold....:)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TheMaskedHamburger:
Um so a quick and dirty fix if for both the speaker whine AND the processor interference noise. This is only if you don't need the volume on:

1. Plug in a pair of headphones, you don't even need to use them, just plugging them in switches the speakers off and removes the processor noise interference.

Yeah I know this is obvious, just pointing it out to anyone
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I noticed a buzzing on my 2013 N7 last night - had the sound turned down all the way (I like to keep my devices on silent) went to youtube and started a video, was about to turn up the sound when I heard the buzzing coming from the top speaker.

So it's not something that is fixable from what I've read or?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Valnomien:
speaker buzz

I am running CM11 on my razorg and the only time I hear the buzzing is when running a game/app even with volume on mute which is frustrating. There has to be some developer option in CM that allows us to disable speakers without plugging in a headset?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
Yeah, that's close to what I hear.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mensaphone:
+1 I have the same problem.

But additionally my top speaker is louder than my bottom speaker, anyone else?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] WilliamG:
Yes that's normal. Note the top speaker has a larger grille.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trent25:
So the static is only audible when there is something playing back? And both speakers?

Because I just noticed that when the CPU or GPU or both are loaded, like when gaming (I was playing real racing) the top speaker or maybe the components there create significant buzzing/static noise, easily heard when muted. Based on ifixit tear down that's where most of the components are.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ravnoscc:
same here :(

Was very sad to discover this flaw as well this evening when I wanted to play at low levels of sound... early on I thought the speakers sounded great. And at high levels whatever you're playing drowns out the static. But it's almost as if they shouldn't have even made a setting that goes that low at all. Unbearable in games and music to me at least.

Edit: it's audible to me up to five notches on the volume bar about 18 inches from my face. Of course depends on the type of music/sounds being played.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
this is a very frustrating issue, might be a deal breaker for many people.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lawlbringer:
Tested another 2 units at my store, same issue. Either this is normal for this tablet or Northern VA has a lot of defective tablets.

Disappointing. I can only hope the new iPad mini has a retina display now. :eek:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] creaturemachine:
Yup I have it too. I'm having a hard time believing it's not something that can be fixed. We all have a plethora of cheap devices, none of which are this bad.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] krispy1:
not getting any buzzing but the speakers when above 50% start to distort/crackle on certain noises if its really high or low pitched. also my s3 speaker is louder then nexus stereo speakers
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] smurfqq:
eysecr Father

I'm in No. VA too. I've tried display units at Best Buy in Reston, Sterling, Tysons and have gotten mine replaced. All 5-6 do the same thing with constant static regardless of volume (except can't really tell at the Tysons BB because they're running some demo mode).

I'm returning and also hoping the iPad mini has retina display which seems less and less likely according to rumors =/.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Zach.discgolf:
I hear it playing tapped out, was wondering about that
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Chrisp4rham:
What bothers me more is the static/pop above 50% :( anyone else?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] krispy1:
Yup that is my issue, its like the clear plastic on the speaker membrane is vibrating. only certain tones make it happen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Great info here but it's this happening on all of these and how come out didn't happen on the last gen models? They must also have that cheap volume. My old hp touchpad has the best sound of any tablet I've ever heard. It didn't make any sound like this.

Not questioning you but just trying to understand. Don't all of these budget devices have these components?

I mean crap... This really seems like more then a cheap design and components. It sounds like a real core problem on this device only. I'm bumming about this. The stereo speakers were a main draw for me. Now I almost don't even want the dammed device. I'm almost ready to return it and it isn't even here yet.

Sorry guys.. 5 am here and haven't slept since the day before yesterday. Loopy as hell.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Artood2s:
It's a bummer for me, but definitely not enough to make me return it. Way too many positives to few negatives.

Sent from my One X
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] AdamLechowicz:
Same issue here, buzzing at 2 lowest volumes (including mute)

Sent from my Nexus 7

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Its cause the speakers are so loud that the membrane is not modulating the audio correctly:)

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kliu888:
No, mine only happens at 10% & 20%. Very very low static volume at 30%. No static above 30% or below 10%.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OJ in Compton:
I played Super Hexagon earlier this morning at the lowest volume to not disturb roommates and the static was incredibly apparent. Unfortunately, it was actually worse than I expected it to be when I read this thread around launch, I expected the same kind of flat static you hear in improperly grounded headphone jacks.

If this is a hardware problem, I'm probably going to return mine then wait a month or two to purchase one of these.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
they probably will never acknowledge this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Skyrocket2Paradise:
really sucks that we have to just deal with it...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I don't know.. I do not hear any static buzz. Are you guys putting your ears right against it or are you saying you can hear it all the time?

Have you tried some audio apps or setting changes?

I was so worried about this issue but mine sounds perfect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I first noticed it when in a very quiet (i.e. silent) room with perfect acoustics, during normal use of the device at a low volume. It was pretty obvious.

In a room with any white noise though, like right now with my computer tower 3 feet away from me with loud fans, I probably won't notice it (this is mostly because I'll have the volume much higher). Though even surrounded by white noise if I put the volume real low and hold the unit next to my ear, I can hear it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] yojoe600:
I can say I have this problem too I think they all have this problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] riko540:
I noticed this this morning when I was watching a YouTube video. It does it on the lowest and one step up for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] LeeC:
volume at 80% still can hear it. But not bad enough to let me return it since most time I use earphones.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] hhhstonehhh:
Original nexus 7 screen issue and now this?? i cant believe this...come on google..

i hope they patch it soon
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Remember that now we have virtual surround, so you get virtual surround sound of the static/buzzing. HUZZAH!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I wonder if this is just a few devices. I don't think it is a mass issue. Could be a ground wire or shielding. Not experiencing it here though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jeffrey1027:
I hear it too. It is kind of annoying when you are watching youtube at night on low volume.. Do you think it's a software update can fix it or a permanent hardware issue
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
all units have this issue. please try to record a video (like the one posted earlier in this thread) if you're 100% sure yours don't have it.

also, what's your manufacture date?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] SirWanksALot:
Yup noticed the same problem. I was contemplating taking it back to Gamestop because I thought it might of done something to it, but I guess not. Very Disappointed... :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Mine does not have buzzing.

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Why are you holding it to your ear? Do you hear it when using normal?

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How do you know that seeing as there are only a small number of people posting about it?

I've watched YouTube videos, Netflix, podcasts and have played games. All stock here and no buzzing.

Perhaps there is a variable here like screen brightness.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
Dude, please read the very post you are quoting. I answered that question already, twice now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
The word "small" is very non-descriptive, and it does not represent proportionality.

One poster in this thread claims to have tested 6 units personally and heard it on every single one. Assuming he is truthful, and having a very basic understanding of probability, it's easy to guess that the problem is either very common or universal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
looks like you're the ONE.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] smurfqq:
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Well, I think I posted that. II checked two best buy display models and 3 that I purchased/replaced. The ones in store are hard to hear just because its loud and open at a best buy so putting it up to my ear is easy to tell it's there. My 3 I could hear just indoors in a quiet setting. If a fan was on or something it was not noticeable. Some seemed worse than the others but they all had the problem.

I use the speakers and almost never headphones myself so I returned and will see if it gets sorted out.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ar456:
I have two new Nexus 7's and they both have this sound issue. Bought one from Best Buy and one from Google. Must be a problem on all of them.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] godgib:
+ 1 Here I'm getting the Buzz at low volumes and static on mute. I can live with it till they get it fixed, I'm sure some smart Dev will come up with a fix.

Got mine from amazon

HW Ver Rev-E

FLO 3.14

TWRP 2.6.0.0

Clean-Rom
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] saeedN:
Does it have the issue when the volume is at 100 and playing a very quite audio?

If it doesn't, then some software fix could be applied by replacing hardware volume control by a software one ( or even using an internal dsp to do it)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
If you are not using stock then your issue could be something else. I'm totally stock and unrooted.

I'm holding this to my ear with volume at all volumes and nothing. I must be lucky.

I don't know but coinciding how many thousands of devices have been did and there are a few people complaining about it I don't believe it is universal or wide spread.

Not to mention I have the device in my hand right now and I have tried to make this buzzing happen and I'm telling you my device isn't buzzing..

Most people who do not have an issue are not going to bother posting about it.

In reply to the guy that told me to record a video.. What are you talking about? Only video recorded on the device make the sound? I watch YouTube, Netflix and other videos daily. I also play tons of games.

It sucks if you guys have a big issue but don't say it happens to all just because you know of maybe 10 or 15 that do it.

Not sure of my date of manufacturing. I pre ordered from play store about a week before sales so I think I have a pretty early date.

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Wasn't talking to you.

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Even if he tested 20 devices that dues not mean it is universal. Who knows, they could have had a problem on their line for a few minutes that effected a few devices. Even if you see a bunch of videos it proves nothing. The fact that my device does not have the issue is proof enough to me that there must be others who do not have the issue.. I would say the majority do not.

You are way off on the probability thing. Do you know how many thousands of these things they sold? Hundreds of thousands probably. You mentioned a guy who tested 6 and that proves probability?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] matthewr87:
For what it is worth mine does this as well. I bought it this past Saturday at Staples in London, ON. I can only really notice it while playing the Simpsons Tapped Out in a soundless room at low volume.

I'm not too concerned about it though so I'm not going to exchange it. The rest of the device works well so I think I'll just stick with this unit. I don't want to have a repeat of my Nexus 7 1.0 adventures where I returned 7 of them before giving up.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
You were quoting me, and your question was directly related to the words in that quote (except for the part you overlooked). So yes, you were talking to me. Either that or you have some weird multiple personality disorder.

Not sure what you mean by "prove probability," as I could not do that any more than I could "prove science" or "prove math." Here is I said about what we can prove: if I assume the reader has a basic understanding of probability, there are conclusions that can be made from the other poster's observation. Since I clearly can't make that assumption, I'll fill the reader in.

If P% of all units are bad, then there is a R% chance that you could test 6 in a row and find each of them bad (R = P^6). Here are some sample values for P and R:

P = 33% and R = 0.1%

P = 50% and R = 1.5%

P = 75% and R = 18%

P = 90% and R = 53%

P = 99% and R = 94%

Those number hold true no matter how large the overall population is (yes, even if it is hundred of thousands). What they say is that there is a teen tiny (microscopic) chance that the problem is present in less than 1/3 of the population. Most likely it is present in much higher proportionality, probably greater than 90%.

So again, either very common or universal. But what a silly thing to argue over. If you don't have the problem, then congratulations on having a good unit.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I was not talking to only you. I was addressing the thread in general in regards to your statement.

As for probability I still disagree that a few devices proves it is common.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but was merely defending myself and my position basically mainly because someone said all of them do it and someone else said universal. Otherwise I would not have argued.

I do hope you get a good device though. I know I would not be happy with buzzing.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
they all have it, full stop.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nascar Dog:
My speakers have the static/distortion problem. :(

But using headphones sounds awesome. No static or popping at all. :cyclops:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] saeedN:
possible fix

As I mentioned earlier, there could be a software workaround.

Can sb try this and report?

First set your volume to the highest level

Then install dsp manager. something like this but

one that works on n7hd

Inside that app, under speaker configuration, set a custom EQ and draw a low flat line so it effectively decresess the volume

Check whether it has the problem or not
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Skyrocket2Paradise:
Didn't work. Just to double check what exactly do you mean by low is -9.0 low enough?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Markdek:
I of coarse have the gps issue, now i'm running into this sound issue. Is that problem there w/ headphones on?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nascar Dog:
No, headphones sound great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] saeedN:
Yes, the lowest.

And what do you mean by not working? Do you mean that it is not low enough or do you mean it hasn't any effect on the output at all?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The111:
What is the GPS issue? For me the GPS is better on this than any Android device I've had. I can walk though my house and just based on whatever weak satellite signal is coming in through the windows, it will show me pretty close to where I am in the house, down to like 5ft I'd say. Pretty eery.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Skyrocket2Paradise:
It had no effect
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] saeedN:
So it seems that the dsp manager doesn't work on the new N7 yet. :crying:

If it worked, we could tweak it to achieve any volume we want.

EDIT:

It seams that dsp manager has worked for those guys over here (using a custom ROM and applying the dsp manager fix:)

can anyone test this?

If it works, decreasing the volume a little, I can make a tweaked dspmanager, with the added ability of changing the speaker volume with no quality loss.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Skyrocket2Paradise:
no the dsp works but it doesnt change the decrease in volume. same static as before
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] stvmac11:
I'm having a very quiet hiss sound out of the top speaker with the volume at any setpoint with no music/notification sound playing. It seems to be louder when scrolling on a google search result or facebook (for example). It is more apparent also when charging. Then it stops when the screen is off.

Anyone else?

On a side note, I have the fuzzy low volume speaker sound also.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
They do not all have it and that is a really stupid statement. How could you possibly know that?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
come on now, it's an established design flaw and not a factory defect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Infinite Jest:
My speakers sound like crap thanks to this. I guess I'm sticking with my iPad.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Markdek:
The "wave-form" theory doesn't explain, at least to me, why the speakers have static/hiss at low volume, but the headphones don't? Anyone?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Infinite Jest:
Headphones are fine at any volume for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] myepicyear:
Streaming from Google Play Music, you can hear it, but it's not obvious unless you hold the speaker close. But streaming from Netflix, the audio static is very noticeable. I did try an exchange at Best Buy, and it's definitely not changed. I even noticed that it's a different "batch" from a different month. It must be design flaw, although I do have a feeling that a firmware update could disguise/mask this to a certain extent.

If I can't confirm that, one way or another, I think it is enough to make me want to return it though. I have a Nexus 7 from last year that I still enjoy, so I wouldn't be broken up about it. I definitely would like to keep it though. I guess we'll see. Those of us that do decide to return can always buy one again later, should a resolution present itself.

Life goes on...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Infinite Jest:
I think I may do the same. It's especially irritating when listening to voices or anything that doesn't have constant audio, like music. Sounds like a fan blowing from a distance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nascar Dog:
If you read through the thread you would have found your answer...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44105666&postcount=15
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phor11:
Just popped in to say that I also noticed this issue, exchanged at Best Buy before I did a search to figure out if it was a wide-spread issue or not, and my new tablet has the exact same issue as well. Went to look at their display unit and it also crackles at low volume.

So there's another 3/3 with this issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] stvmac11:
I'm having a like electromagnetic interference sound coming from my speakers when scrolling down any app like Facebook or Google search. It's even worse when charging. Not to mention wireless charging out off the box
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Markdek:
I did read it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Hnk1:
Strangely my sound is low and its top speaker does not have any sound in them .

The speakers on the bottom work just fine.

Any advice or help?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] myepicyear:
If it does that with all audio, then that is definitely not right. You should absolutely return/exchange in that case.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nascar Dog:
Mine is louder on one side.

The speaker on the side with the USB connector is much quieter than the other one.

Will exchange today.... :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Hnk1:
thank you for your answers.I wish I could. I bought it from the US and got it here in the UK so that be hard. Firstly I thought mine was perfect one until I realised it has dual stereo speakers. So did hard reset or anything like wiping cache helped ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nascar Dog:
No, even installing the latest cyanogenmod nightly didn't help.......
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Hnk1:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44716657#post44716657
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cosycat:
I have this .. hmm Will this be fixed somehow
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jaxione:
Hey guys!

The problem with the static noise doesent bother me since I dont hear it unless I put my ear very close to the tablet. One thing that does bother me a bit that is related to this problem is the faint "pop" noise I hear when having muted sound and pressing a button on screen that should emitt sound if the pad wasent muted.

Do you have this aswell? I noticed it yesterday evening when I muted the pad via the volume button when going to sleep but used the pad a bit more before going to sleep. Its like the speakers make that "pop" sound when starting up.

Best regards,

J
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] technotika:
same problem here - sent this thread to google support UK
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vanwel:
I have had the hissing when playing at low volumes from the start. I did not have any high pitch noise, hissing or whatever when no music/sound was playing or the speaker was muted. However, since a couple of days (since I upgraded to the newest build?), i have notice that now I have a continuous high pitch noise being emitted from the speaker (really quite sure it wasn't there before, as I am totally frustrated by high pitch electronic equipment noise) and also hear the faint "pop" when pressing a button, even when the speakers are muted. Weird and annoying.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gbeaguilar:
I'm not sure I have the same problem as everyone in this thread, but I think I have your problem with the button presses. I noticed it a few days ago immediately after turning on my device, every nav bar button would cause a weird popping/ humming/ electronic "grinding" sound that lasts a few seconds. It went away after about an hour of use. But now it is happening again after a reboot! I even notice it when typing (though more faint) and also when pressing a search bar. This happens also when it is muted. I've had this device since launch and NEVER noticed it before, so I was assuming my device was becoming faulty.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DeDanMU:
Same Problems

Hey, i have also problems. I recorded a video that everyone can here my issue. Maybe you have also these problems?

so i'am not allowed to post links as a new user:

so here you must copy and paste. maybe the next user can post it embed. Thanks!

youtu.be/MIAv85pOup8
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nickj2010:
This problem seemed to magically appear over night for me, I was watching a YouTube video before I went to bed on the lowest setting and it seemed fine.

Wake up this morning, put on a YouTube video again and it has this horrid static that only gets unnoticeable at about the 4th volume notch.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jjmai:
Do all Nexus 7 FHD have the speaker static problem? Mine does it, and is quite annoying.

Anyone's N7 doesn't have this issue?