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[Android General] Exnor:
No offence taken mate :)

I might have explained myself wrong in the past... i would sell my FHD and buy a Nexus IF Google would sell one with 10inch screen that interest me... but not this year no lol.

And yes i am pretty happy with the FHD, and unless it breaks or anything bad happens to it, i'm sticking with it. It does the job i need and the battery life is amazing (btw had to buy a 2 Amperes power supply/charger because the stock one would take 3 hours to recharge or more :/ ).

I'm still searching for an affordable replacement for my wife's Tab2 7'' but she's not very interested lol.

BTW did you saw the new Qualcomm 810 SoC series? now that is going to be a true competitor to Intel's tech. ARM Cortex A57 64-bit and top of the line mobile GPU's. Plus they promise even lower power consumption :D
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Yes.. The 64 bit 810 and a new 808 as well.. :cool:

64 bit processing is what's needed to stay comparable with Apple's latest offerings and the market as a whole.. :cool:
[Android General] lottumeb:
Okay, can we please go back on topic after 15 pages of blablabla offtopic blablabla.

This took me longer to search through than rooting the newest asus build number, and without any solution whatsoever.

In android 4.3 it is not possible to root trough adb anymore.

But some clever german created a smart solution.

It is much easier even, works on the newest build WW v5.0.16...:)

[Anleitung]Root, Unroot, Up-/Downgrade, Unbrick ASUS MeMO Pad FHD 10 (ab Android 4.3)
[Android General] Exnor:
Not to compete with the Apple SoC... to bring 64bit Kernel to Android. Apple never deliver anything as good as Android.

IMO the only great thing Apple invented (and no not Steve "Narcissist god" Jobs) was the iPod products and the Apple Store.

The 1st and 2nd iPhones were inferior to other devices on the market but the hipsters got them anyway so... But now Apple is finally being seen for what it is: overpriced products that do less than the competition and have little to no innovation (they did not invented the touch phone concept, Ericsson add one many years before Apple even got the 1st phone out; they did not invented the tablet concept, at best sci fi writers did it and in 2002 a lot of Intel/windows tablets were available but expensive).

The "new" tech on the next Android devices is simple logic.. 64bit kernels exist for years now and on a true 64bit processor they perform "faster"...

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Well this tread is more like a open discussion about tech... maybe we should rename it :confused:

Anyway thanks for the info... but i'm on the latest update and since i don't really need root so far i'm not downgrading the distro.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
IF YOU WOULD HAVE DONE A "PROPER SEARCH" YOU WOULD KNOW THIS IS ***NOT*** THE FHD THREAD ANYMORE :mad:

IT'S HERE----> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2568724

Now...Go have fun.. "Topic" was lost here in 2013.. :cool:

Not a fan of Apple are we?

Well... 32 bit is still ok by me I have no issues either on my Tablet or my Win-7 based computer.. worse thing being 32 bit can only access 3 Gigs of Ram.. but again, for what I do on the PC that's not an issue.. And yes, the consumer benefits to some degree with newer technology.. but for the most part today's applications don't see any real benefit from having 64 bit access.. maybe by 2020 or so there might be a wholesale conversion.. but just look at Microsoft.. they are just now abandoning support for Windows 32 bit XP after what 8 yrs or so of support? and here in the U.S., many businesses still use it as there office software of choice.. I personally love Win-7 32 bit.. it's fast and extremely stable.. I see no need to go to Win-8 / 8.1 or 64 bit as they would offer no more real world benefit than Win-7 32 bit .. it would just be wasted money out of my pocket..

Wholesale Change comes at a Turtle's Pace My Friend.. :cool:
[Android General] lottumeb:
Lol, hmm proper search you say?

Well, if searching for 2 evenings and reading dozens and dozens of pages throughout the internet isn't a proper search then what is?

After that much reading i don't look at posting dates anymore, i just look for info i need.

That is also the reason i probably missed the fact that this is an open topic as stated above.

The first 5 pages insinuate different in my opinion, and the title still is root memopad fhd10 ;)

My apologies then, didn't mean to interrupt, i just wanted to contribute.

I did use multiple searches on xda and this was the only topic i found that was about rooting the memopad fhd10.

This nice tablet doesn't even have it's own chapter on xda.

Furthermore, the link you give above is for build 5.0.11, i tried that one before i found this topic, but it does not work on fw4.3 with build 5.0.16.

The site i found does work.

So please continue your blabla :)
[Android General] intrepid24:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2716296
[Android General] lottumeb:
:D That topic was created 4 days after i posted my previous reply and did not exit yet when i was searching for it.

But thanks anyway, they found the same solution as i did 4 days earlier.
[Android General] Exnor:
Mate better change the OP title... people are getting frustrated by reading our open dialog :P

Well i have Apple products (ipod touch and my father have an Ipad) and what i don't like about them is the price and the late (RIP) A-Hole "steal others ideas and sell as mine" CEO Jobs the biggest douche in the universe (South Park got it wrong... its was Steve Jobs... the guy that even stolen from is best friend and the brain in early Apple, Wozniak).

Moving to the 64 vs 32 bits... Mate using a 64 bit processor (with the right software) is the logical step in the "evolution" of computation.

Just think about this... a DWORD enters a 32bit register to be added to another DWORD and the result is superior than a DWORD length... in a 32 bit register processor it will take more cycles to output the result because its more than 32-bit... on a 64-bit register processor the result would be outputted directly to a single register (as long the sum result is in a QWORD length) and "saving" compute cycles... This is a really primitive (and probably badly explained) example but i think it can explain the basic advantages.

Here is a in depth article (although it refers to 16 bit and 32bit the principle is the same) https://courses.engr.illinois.edu/ece390/books/artofasm/CH09/CH09-3.html

If you can test windows 7 or Ubuntu in 32 and 64 variants on the same machine you might notice some differences.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
I don't feel anything needs changing.. if they cannot follow the link I provided.. I don't know what to say.. I just did a simple 10 second search and found the link to the "ACTIVE" fhd thread..

Here when you purchase a copy of Win-7 you get both the 32 & 64 bit versions in the package..

I ran the 64 bit for a while.. no difference doing my daily stuff whatsoever my friend.. and since driver compatibility was superior with 32 bit, I switched back to that and have been happy ever since.. (about 2 yrs now..)

2018 - 2020 is the timetable in which I predict there may be a wholesale acceptance of every manufacture and every consumer, to dump any legacy 32 bit devices and move to 64 bit because they will have no choice if they want the latest and greatest.. but.. A Worldwide transition to 64 bit is no where on the horizon.. In the same manner your Wife is perfectly happy with her Tab 7 inch device, so is the market (including myself) happy with 32 bit performance... to power our computers, tablets, phones..etc..

No need to dump everything for a 64 bit device in 2014. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
But there is no need to "dump" 32 support because is backwards compatible (well if the OS supports it that is).

My personal PC is running Win7 ultimate 64 bit for 2 years i think and i had no issues whatsoever. I also have a USB drive booting Windows 8 32 bit and it runs pretty well.

We (users) only see the benefits of biggers bit words (16,32,64,etc) in heavy computations and IF the software is proper coded...

The change to use 64-bit CPU's might be more about energy efficiency than performance, in the mobile department...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Things may be better now.. but I know for my personal use, My last install of 64 bit did not show any appreciable difference over running Win-7 @ 32 bits.

More efficient? That's a possibility in a mobile device.. where the main complaint is the Battery to Screen Res Ratio... If it could be proven that having a 64B processor on your SoC gives you improved Battery Life.. Most Manufactures / Consumers would be all in when it came time for their next major Phone / Tablet purchase.. but that would be the ONLY selling point IMO.. The average consumer could care less about 64B.. It's in the same vein as Win-8 / 8.1.. at least here in the states, you don't see this "Wholesale Effort" by everyone to dump Win-7 for Win-8 or the business industry dumping Win-XP for Win-7.. the "Cost-To-Gain" does not justify the change...

Again.. by 2018 - 2020 it may very well become the *Standard* but in 2014 it simply makes no difference to most consumers.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Well here so far nobody is dumping XP or 7 for the 8... MS does a lot of misleading advertising but even the average joe consumer (the ones that are not tech savy) is not buying it.

MS ditche Win2K support years ago and there are still people that use it for small servers... Of course there are not new updates but they aren't needed anyway.

XP support is only about new patches/bug fixes/etc... if one have a machine that works fine now, it has no need to update the OS.

Of course for me, that i started using windows since 3.11 and MSDOS 5, windows 7 IMO is like butter compared to the ancestors, and Win8 (apart from the Metro crap) is even better.

On the bit number arch topic: I think 64bit processors might be more energy efficient, based on the fact they need less cycles to complete some computations/calculus but that remains to be seen.(we have to bare in mind that more transistors are needed plus what type of manufacturing process is being used, plus silica quality, etc etc etc etc...)
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Well.. The thing here is, 64B home computing as a "Requirement" for good performance is just not even close to selling.. :cool:

The Mobile World however, is all about *Samsung vs Apple* and since Apple has already thrown down the Gauntlet with it's 64B A7 SoC.. Samsung / Qualcomm has to respond at some point.. :cool:

But the reason Apple gets so much out of just 1.3 GHz of power is because they control the "Hardware AND the Software" so they get the most performance out of their systems with or without 64B.. But.. One does wonder what the performance would be like if Apple matched Qualcomm's Snapdragon Processors Clock for Clock...

The iPad or iPhone running at 2.3 - 2.5 GHz with Apple's strict (optimized) requirements for any software it uses would be quite a formidable adversary for the rest of the Planet to compete with.. :cool:
[Android General] boomer2hand:
dont have root access

hi i think i rooted my tablet memo pad fhd 10 but when i run game gardian to cheat and go to scan for adderess it dont access i used root checker and it says i have root so what am i missing
[Android General] Exnor:
But the latest SoC from Apple has a 64-bit dual core custom Cortex A57 for its CPU...

Also its quite difficult to benchmark a device running different OS's. To get the true compute "power" results from Apple SoC's versus others it would be necessary to boot an costum identical OS on all the devices. And for the specs on paper released, Apple SoC's are not as "powerful" as the competition (Qualcomm, Samsung, etc..).

But, as you correctly stated, Apple controls the OS so it optimizes it to the max, where Android maximum optimizations can only been found here on XDA for a specific device.. Not even Nexus devices get the the level of OS+software optimization that Apple enforces on their devices because the Hardware on Android devices is always changing... so for Android user is a Quid pro Quo ... we have better hardware but have to wait to get the most out of it...

At the end of the day, Apple stuff is overpriced for what it offers... Just pin the Galaxy S5 against the iPhone 5s (S5 still cheaper) and one can see how must better the S5 is, even without ultra optimized OS or 64bit arch CPU.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Ah.. But you forget my friend..:cool:

The S5 is fresh 2014....Let's see what the upcoming A6 brings to the table.. ;)
[Android General] Exnor:
Dont get your hopes up... Apple is losing grip of the fame it had. Plus competitions is on a all-time high.

On other subject:

I finally got my wife a new table :) its a Acer A1-830 - 16GB. Brand new just launched this month in Europe and it have the same SoC than mine.

I was browsing for a nice replacement and i saw this one, in my country, cheaper than US and UK so me and my wife got to the store, she "test-drive" it and liked and we bought it. Only 150 Euros :o . I could not believe it.

Its an 8 inch HD IPS LCD 4:3 AR screen (the tablet is Acer imitation of an Ipad mini) that my wife actually likes more than the Tab2 screen AR.

And the best part is i was able to sell my wifes Tab2 7'' online for 110 Euros loool. (it was like new so i did not took advantage of anyones lack of knowledge about the tablet... and to be honest the Tab2 7'' still sell brand new for about 130/140 Eur in here...).

So far it performs very well...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Due to the state of economics Everywhere.. Apple may not be selling at it's prior pace.. But, I have Total Respect for what they get out of so little horsepower.. I owned an iPad Mini that I jailbroke with iOS 6 and it was not only fast as hell and had the same customization as Android, but it maintained it's stability that Apple is famous for.. So I have nothing but good things to say about the iPad.. It's still the "Holly Grail" by which ALL other tablets are judged.. :cool:

I've heard of the Acer.. found this review over @ cnet: http://www.cnet.com/products/acer-iconia-a1-830/2/

The 4:3 aspect ratio should make reading for her pretty nice.. that's the one thing I loved about my iPad Mini's 4:3.. reading was rendered as it should be.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
I've read that review to on Cnet but the reviewer really does not know what is talking about... They put not tech savvy reporters doing this reviews -_-

On the Apple... Yes i've used iOS 6 rooted (Jailbroken) and it was very good, especially the software on the "side market" but it did not seem more or less stable.

iOS is a custom Unix port for a ARM based custom computer (the iOS devices) so is supposed to be super stable because the hardware designs alongside with the OS.

On Android, each device manufacturer has to build and compile its own version of the AOSP... its like the IBM format PC... a big "ecosystem" of hardware for the same base software...

So i continue to say that Apple devices are overpriced...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Even here... Apple is not cheap.. But we each value our expenditures differently..:cool:

One of my vehicles is a Toyota Camry... Like a Honda Accord, it was priced somewhat higher than it's competition.. But it runs......and.. runs... and...........runs... to perfection EVERYTIME.. :cool: This is my 3rd Camry in my lifetime.. And this one has over 130,000 miles on it and purrs like a brand new one.. ( My friend had one with 379,000 on it ). My car analogy is simply to say, You get what you pay for.. it may seem somewhat steep at the point of purchase.. but, You Know It's Going To Last.. I learned that lesson many years ago when I purchased my 1st Toyota.. an $8,000,00 dollar Celica when the competition was selling for $5,000-$6,000.00.. and the owner told me Son.. Trust Me.. You may pay a little more now.. but this car is going to last you long after you pay it off... HE WAS RIGHT ;)

Same can be said for a Honda..

Apple Flow In That Same Vein As Well. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Well, i must say i agree about the cars. Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura, Nissan and Suzuki are lifetime machines. But that is because they make their own crucial parts, especially the engines ( and kudos for getting a Celica, i love that car. I have a 95 Honda Concerto now with 240.000 Km on it. 1.6cc 130bHp twincam 16v and works like new :D ).

But Apple iOS devices are much as a lifetime material as Samsung or LG... and you can't easily replace the battery (this would be like not ben able to clean the fuel injectors on my Honda).

And i have an iPod 4th gen that i bought new when it was released so i'm not anti Apple... i'm just saying that IMO they are overpriced for what they deliver.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
I've never known of an iPad with a failed battery that AppleCare would not replace.. I imagine if someone had the 1st-Gen iPad and had battery failure they might be left Ass-Out.. But from the 2nd-Gen on Apple would take care of that.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Maybe.. but i do feel a lot more comfortable with a device that i can replace the battery myself...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Not Me.. :cool:

If my tablet's battery should fail then it's in the trash..

Luckily, my G-Pad 8.3 shows no signs of battery deterioration .. In fact, with my current ROM (Mahdi) it's showing Improved Stamina.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
ah mate don't say that.

I usually sell my old computers/cellphones, but sometimes i stick with one and in portable devices the battery is my main concern. A good Li-on battery can be recharged about 500 to 600 times before the molecules on the electrolyte start to degrade.. now if you are like me and drain some devices bat in less than a day that gives us 1 and half year before the battery degrades...

I replaced my Gnex battery once because i use it a lot. Now if i was using one device that is designed to avoid users to replace parts i would had a lot more work to replace a battery on a good and useful device...

Manufacturers make hard to replace batteries devices to get more money from consumers, either in the form of paying tech services or force them to buy a new device that in most cases would not be necessary.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Tablets? or Phones??

I thought we were talking Tablets here....:cool:

I'm not prying a non-removable battery out of my G-Pad 8.3.. spending God Know What for a replacement battery ( if one would even be available to purchase since it's non -removable) and solder it in just to keep this tablet going...

I'd just buy a New Tablet.

And you can't sell a Tablet when the battery will not even charge.

My 8.3 is doing just fine though..

It barely has to be charged... :cool:

So.. I'm sure when I sell it later this year all will be well.

Phones are a different story.

My current phone is a $125.00 Alcatel One Touch Fierce.. It goes 2 days easy without charging since it has a 4.5" screen and is not HD Resolution.. It has a Non-Removable battery.. but it's a throw away phone should it fail.. I have a 3.5" Prism II that can go almost a week without charging and I think I spent about $70.00 for that phone new at the time.. so.. if the battery should fail in my primary and secondary phones..

I have very bad luck.. or I've had them for too long and it's time to spend another $125.00 - $175.00 in 2015 on something else.. :cool:
[Android General] rogerlig@gmail.com:
Asus FTD 302C fastboot issue

Hi,

I can get my Asus FTD 302C into fastboot using adb (reboot bootloader). It sits there saying 'awaiting fastboot commands'. But if I try to give it a fastboot command, it replies that there's no device connected (obviously, there is, or I wouldn't have gotten this far).

What is fastboot waiting for? Anyone else have this problem, or a workaround to it. Restarting the tablet doesn't give it what it wants.

rogerlig
[Android General] Exnor:
Well ok if you have intentions on selling the device after some time, battery issues its not a problem for you (or me so far lol), but i still like to have the option to repair it myself if the need arrives (in this case just swap the battery).

Are you sure that your G pad battery is soldered on ? Most tablets use connectors. BTW replacement batteries are quite cheap, even for LG and Samy.

You Alcatel is a very good phone for the price. Tested one myself and was surprised that after so much years Alcatel finally got back making nice cellphones.

Totally off topic: did you saw the new AMD hybrid SoC (for 2015)? x86-64 bit cores along side with ARMv8 64-bit ones plus Radeon GPU :D... now that is very interesting.

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I recommend googling for ME302C root and recovery methods... there is a US forum dedicated to ASUS tablets and they have a section dedicated to this tablet.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Hello My Friend.. :cool:

I'll never know if the battery in the G-Pad 8.3 is of a soldered connection or not.. I have zero plans on opening mine up.. ;)

Even though I know there is a tear down video, it's just not happening here.. My G-Pad is flawless so I don't have any concerns about battery failure.. it's just a non-issue in the history of the tablet and it's still under Factory Warranty should something that weird happen.

The One Touch Fierce has been an excellent companion.. it may not be the fastest or have the best clarity, but for unlimited calls & txting it's $125.00 price has been a good investment.. :cool:

No.. I've not kept up with the computing industry like I use to when I was building computers I have a Liquid Cooled I5 / GTX-460 / MSI GD-80 combo I've been running for years now.. And it's been more than enough fire power for my computer usage so I just don't keep up with even Intel's latest anymore...

Sounds like fun for AMD.. 5 or 6 yrs ago when Intel finally got sick of hearing about the Athlon slowly taking over and Intel dropped the hammer with the I7 / I5 series to "Once And For All" show who the dominate Chip Maker was... AMD has never recovered from that.. Intel just kept getting more refined... and got faster and faster further stretching the gap from AMD.. Maybe they can find a way to catch up again.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
I agree, so far no one beat Intel as x86 arc manufacturer (after all they invented it lol).

My fist CPU was an 486DX from AMD and was nice at the time but got crushed by the 1st Gen Pentium...

AMD still makes some good affordable processors but they cant beat Intel on performance.

The hybrid i was talking was announced this week and its for tablets, not for desktops/IBM legacy format PC's, but i can see it reach out to that market if it proves to be good and desirable.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Those Were The Days...

Pentium 100 if memory serves.. :cool:

I jumped in at the P150mhz I think.... That was a LONG time ago.. ;)

Outside of benchmarks, I just don't see the real need for 64 bit anything.. My G-Pad scrolls through the app drawer and opens applications almost instantly.. You can go on UTube and see Snapdragon 800 Class devices with Custom ROM's moving at the blink of an eye.. especially with a Launcher like Nova set to "Faster Than Light".. It's pretty much a marketing gimmick for a phone or tablet.. and just not needed IMO.. :cool: