yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
Wow, you first post about that... just wow. My first thougt after reading your post was like: Hm so cm is becoming a iOS like "dumb" system.

And no the users on xda are probably not here because they want a "dumb" system but a customisable system with device specific features where it makes sense.

This is really going into the wrong direction with CM, that said I have always appreciated the free time and effort everyone has put into this huge project of making a better "free after-market" -as they call- it system.

I remember the cm site being down because of one individual which decided to be a jerk and wanted money to hand the site back to "cm"..

In a project as big as this there should NEVER be decisions made by one or a few persons.

And about the liscensing stuff: Isn't is impossible to make open source software closed source? Like if you release code under a open liscense you can't change it anymore?

Also, if "they" would sell liscenses for the code, who would get the money? What would they do with it? Would every device maintainer get something? What about the users which help to clear out bugs?

This is just not right, cm has always been about the community and it should stay that way.

If they want to make money: Put apps like focal in the market, sell premium features; something like that. Amen.

I do hope this won't get too ugly because it won't help anyone, imo.

Also thanks to pulser for the reveal ;) [MENTION=2178960]pulser_g2[/MENTION] This would make for an excellent article on the xda portal, wouldn't it? ;)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Phistachio:
First thoughts of using it : for such an early build, it's really stable! But I must flash back to .1 because for some reason my phone overheats to absolute hell. Extremely hot and untouchable.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
Have you tried reflashing, full-wipe etc. etc.?

Your the first person with that problem as far as I know.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] binjubair:
I followed these instructions. I was running stock ROM, Android 4.1.2 (N7100XXDME6).

1) I installed ClockworkMod Recovery "recovery-clockwork-6.0.3.1-n7100.img".

2) I wipe the device.

3) have flashed ROM "cm-10.2-20130810-UNOFFICIAL-n7100.zip".

4) have installed Google Apps "gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip"

It was worked almost perfectly. Nice Job :D.

I would like to list some issues I faced:

1) When I made/receive a phone call, Internet Connection/Mobile Data disconnected

2) When I add "tiles" and rearrange them, I found that one of the tiles was duplicated and another was missing! I have to remove all tiles and add them one by one without rearrangement

3) When I turn off the device OR the battery drained, it seems that it does not charged when it connected to a charger

4) When I charge the battery, the battery light turn to "Green" when it reaches 90%

5) Map Rotation sometimes does not work probably

6) When I add app shortcuts to "home screens" and add 4 or more shortcuts to a folder, some of these shortcuts disappeared after a reboot.

7) The android 4.3 "Camera" app some times does not work; "Cannot connect to camera" Error.

>>> I will test "Focal" cam app.

8) The screenshot hot-keys "Home + Power Button" does not work.

>>> I added a "Screenshot" command to "Power menu" from: [Settings] > [System] > [Power Menu]

I cannot wait for the next build :D
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] insink71:
It all depends on the open source license. If its Apache2, like Google would suggest, then it by all means be rolled into a closed source commercial application OR it can even be rolled into a GPLv3 application. The original snippet of code remains "as is" Apache2 licensed, but sometimes dies over time for lack of support.

IF it is a GPL work, then nope. It cannot be made into commercially closed source work. Why? Because the General Public owns it. These works typically do not die over time if enough interest is garnered, the public supports and the project lives.

Without breaching the debate, this is why people are confused about open source. Open source really means you [as an individual] are free to view and use the source. When you get into redistribution, commercialization, etc. You gotta read and understand the various licenses out there. But basically there is one crowd that thinks free means free to use the code however you deem fit [including commercializing or rolling into a closed source package]; There is another that says free should mean free from commercial tyranny.

An example: The linux kernel [which all manufacturers of android use] is GPL. Thus many times you here complaints; as, one of the tenants of GPL is that any modification of this code MUST BE published [as again the general public owns it]. So companies that push updates to the kernel [in image format] but don't publish updated kernel source [and this happens all the time; still doesn't make it right] are in violation of the GPL.

Good Ref Link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_licenses

Hope that helps someone.

Regards,

Rob
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
This is a known problem I think.

Weird bug :p

This is just a bug with the charging animation, it is stuck. The devidlce should charge normaly :).

I think that is normal?

Rotation is a bit glitchy sometimes along with some visual glitches in gmail for example.

Another weird bug :p

Use apex or nova if it is a problem :)

Yep, stock camera is buggy sometimes, focal works perfect for me.

Not 100% sure, but the Home+Power screenshot could be a samsung thing, I have always used the power menu for screenshots.

Sent from a spaceship.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] rashid.fairus:
open-source no more:confused:

via Note2
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
[MENTION=3164329]insink71[/MENTION] Perfect, thank you!

So what does that mean exactly for the CM part of the sources we use in our system? Which license was used here?

I believe focal is GPLv2 right? So it could therefore not be sold in the playstore.

Sent from a spaceship.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] slayher:
So you are telling me, that you are upset there are some code changes coming into play, that break some current implementations on a branch that just came into creation a couple weeks ago, that just started getting nightlies a couple days ago, that does not have any type of release yet?

Cause last time I checked the 10.1 branch still has all those things you are speaking of (Device Parts).

Also last time I checked, (and it has been along time) gerrit was there for code review not a voting system.

Just as one other person in this thread stated, many of the features are being relocated into portions of the already existing Settings menu. I believe this is an attempt to standard options across devices, not an attempt to take all the stuff you love and find so near and dear to your heart.

But I don't know, maybe CM hates you, and just wanted to do this to make you upset. *shrugs*

Btw I use the t0ltetmo (aka basically the i7105) and its not unusable for me on 10.1 or 10.2.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] binjubair:
No. In stock ROM, the battery light turn to "Green" when the battery fully charged.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
CM 10.1's code has been frozen, there will be no more changes, adding features etc. unless there were serious bugs.

Yes, Gerrit is a code review system, which means code SHOULD be reviewed before being merged.

Some members of the CM team however do have the permission to skip Gerrit and directly push their changes. This can be useful in some cases but it is not the idea of CM.

Also I agree that some features are relocated and I agree with that. I do like the new structure of settings, but thats not the point.

Pulser's problem is -from what I understand- the "skipping gerrit" and the "one person decides" part of the whole thing.

Sent from a spaceship.

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Pulser will save us :cool: :sly: (Or die trying :p)

Sent from a spaceship.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] binjubair:
What I meant with "Map Rotation" is that the phone compass sensor does not point to the correct direction sometimes.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] insink71:
Most of CyanogenMod code follows the recommend of Google to Apache2 [or similar variant]. If one plans on selling their work or developing an expanded Ex version, this is not so bad a license. Some contributions might be GPL, but it depends on the author(s) of referenced code. I recently noted a device tree that was written GPLv3; which, I thought was a wonderful idea.

If you want to do something bigger than yourself and don't plan on doing paid for apps, I believe GPLv3 is the way to go. GPLv2 was strict but pure; it was incompatible with rolling Apache2 code into it. GPLv3 preserves the spirit, but loosens restrictions [so Apache2 code can be rolled into it].

Just my opinion though ;)

Rob

PS Bear in mind, CM is a fork of AOSP, and most of AOSP is Apache2 as well... so they pretty much followed pattern.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
Oh, okay sorry. I do have that problem too :/. It is off by up to 90°. Recalibrating did not help unfortunately :(.

Sent from a spaceship.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Mazda:
[MENTION=2178960]pulser_g2[/MENTION]

You know, I can't help but to think what would YOU or another moderator or XDA staff member say if this same exact post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44746084&postcount=548 was made by a junior member with less then 10 posts?

I'm sure I would see replies like....

Quit complaining you troll or If you don't like it, go make your own ROM or just straight up bashing.....OR maybe the entire post will just disappear and that member would get a warning/infraction....who knows!

With that said, I also can't help but to see the hypocrisy that's taking place here!

I've been on XDA for a while and I've seen similar posts like this made by several dozen members only to have them either removed or force that user to just say F it and remove it themselves because of the negative feedback that they got.

BUT....here we are and you, an Admin and RD made a post just like those that were removed in the past YET you got 60+ thanks and NOT one person has dared to tell you to quit complaining or go make your own ROM.

No sign of a moderator or a fellow Admin or NOTHING....

I mean, believe it or not...CyanogenMod doesn't report to XDA.

Is their ROM. If they want to remove everything and anything.....is their ROM! Simple as that!!

BUT here's where the real problem lies...By you saying "I would like to suggest that anyone who feels strongly about this lets them know about it as loudly as they deem necessary" that's no better then someone trying to start drama by saying "If you don't agree with something, let's rate their thread 1 star and let them know" or whatever

The way I'm seeing this and maybe others might of seen this but are afraid to say anything is that you're using your title and authority to get people to turn on CM, specifically Ricardo Cerqueira. That to me is BS! Especially since you're an Admin......you're suppose to know better!

NOW, I ask you.....isn't that the total definition of being a hypocrite? You doing something that your staff punishes others for doing?

How are you as an Admin suppose to issue infractions and come down on people for things that you yourself are doing?

Maybe this post will get deleted or HELL....maybe I'm the one that will received the negative feedback but I'm tired of seeing this happen on XDA time after time after time!

Is really just BS! You as an Admin, are able to speak out and actually start drama BUT if a junior member that NOBODY knows of was to do the same exact thing......he or she would get their ass torn up!

I honestly think that as an Admin you should NOT be trying to start drama and getting people to turn on CyanogenMod just because you're unhappy with a decision that is made or going to be made in THEIR ROM....an open source ROM.

Just my 2 cents....
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] sebtorres82:
The Dames happened to me in Waze and GMaps, maybe is because the CM privacy guard?

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AbsolutZeroGI:
You mean like the moderators in the secret moderator forum, the developers in the hidden developer forum, and even the news writers in their secret news writers forum...all making decisions with little to no input from the every day users on XDA?

Come on man, I get that you're pissed off here, but at least make a point that doesn't make you sound so...hypocritical.

*You decide who gets banned and who doesn't in secret moderator forums where no average user has ever been. Why isn't anyone made privy to those discussions?

*The countless development discussions in the secret developer forums that none of us normal people have EVER been a part of. You get mad at CM for having private, hidden discussions...then you have a whole hidden forum for your devs to do the exact same thing.

*The XDA design decisions, rule decisions, etc are all done by like a maximum of 4-6 people.

If you're going to sit there and try to tell all these people that you, yourself, aren't having hidden discussions with other XDA devs in the hidden dev forum about this very incident (and probably another one in the secret moderator forum for that matter) without letting everyone in on it, then forgive me for saying so, but you're full of crap dude. You guys plot behind closed doors more than most governments. Not to mention all the horrible things I've seen you people say about the average user on XDA (and everywhere else for that matter).

I used to be behind those doors and the only thing I walked out of those doors feeling proud about was that I was the only person in any forum back there that put the 5.5 million people in these forums first and you guys didn't. Geez man, find another way to complain.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] insink71:
I agree rallying to complain is typically a bad idea. Rallying for change isn't though. Fork their code, git revert.. and keep features and develop direction. Rally a small group to support these efforts. Much better plan of attack imo.

Rob

PS If people flock to your fork.. yeah they'll toss out the "it was kanged" catch phrase, but cm kanged from AOSP once upon a time; so, you make them the hypocrites then. Also, I wouldn't be surprised ['if said flock occured] if CM didn't back up, punt bozo maintainer, and ask you [and supporting team] to maintain device. This is how one invokes change in my world ;)

PSS Above IS a suggested alternative development route [for this rom]. If features removed, this would put them back in... and save all complaints, banter and off-topic conversation. It is merely a suggestion though and Op may choose original route and try to invoke reversion through a complaint movement.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shabbypenguin:
This is a development thread, can we stick on development of specified rom?

might i suggest http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1424 for any and all issues with rom makers etc? :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] dh350nwo:
This development thread was essentially changed when the OP and admin decided to drop drama on our heads.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Zxo0oxz:
Yeah, if Cyanogenmod isn't what the users want, they'll flock to something else. There's plenty of good options out there, and one of them is going to be the next big thing if Cyanogenmod is truly changing in the way that he implied. Personally, I just miss the myriad of options back in CM7.

Not to mention somebody posted it on reddit and it's gaining quite a bit of attention.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] atomicspaceindian:
people seem to love you.....

hey dude i think you are getting more responses than one you might want to check it out..... ;)

https://plus.google.com/108877502282989970920/posts/SA2JwnPiMef
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] anoneemooz:
Jumping off this drama train for now. I'll just watch on the sidelines. I myself don't know what to believe but I'm just happy people are standing up for AOSP and its users.

I was thinking of posting pulser's diatribe on Reddit but someone beat me to it. I think that's why we're getting all these replies now from those who aren't even Note 2 users lol. Well, here's the discussion you wanted, pulser.

Now it's also on G+ and, combined with r/android attention, this is gonna get a lot of attention real quick. CM loyalists are angry while others feel betrayed. We're getting insight now from users of other devices that are unhappy as well with CM10.2 so far.

This is gonna get really interesting.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ogy77:
Yes I download from mirror on op.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] alexng2208:
since the rom is 95% there with minimal fc for me...

hopefully the graphics + other glitches are fixed by amazing devs!! :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] kingkij:
Nice rom. first downloaded form another thread but unable to boot. But this rom is nice. ANDROID 4.3 on my note 2. :victory:
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Tha TechnoCrat:
Buddy could you please add the bugs in the op ??:o

"Thanks button is just to avoid "THANKS" posts in threads. Nothing more than that. Don't ask in signature or post for it and defeat the purpose why it was introduced"
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Mohammed779:
Latest versions of Google apps ^^ that's all :D just more compatible .. However you can always download the latest Google apps from Google play.. So no big difference

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
I will enable DevDB on this thread so you can make bug reports.

Done - you can find the button at the top of the page :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] bakachu:
I've just made the jump from samsung stock rom, looks great!

On Samsung 4.1 stock, in Google Music, scrolling through my albums used to be really (embarrassingly) janky, but not under CM10.2 - silky smooth :)

I noticed a few short audio jitters when listening to music with bluetooth headphones, normally only after a tracks been playing 2-3 minutes. Apart from that, awesome.

Does anyone know if the new 4.3 Trim behavior will give any advantages on the N7100? I've been watching log cat for the trim operations, but haven't noticed any yet.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Petteri:
Is there any chance to port Hybrid Setting (Apps per Dpi) in this ROM!? .... thats the only thing i really missing! :) Very smooth ROM!
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
I had the same problem along with almost every google app crashing constantly because of the syncing for some reason.

To solve the market error just remove your google account from your device and then add it again (this can be done in the account settings, click on google, your account where all the checkboxes are, hit menu, remove account). This worked fine for me.

And as always this is a great rom, thank you! :thumbup::D

It also feels faster than the 4.2 builds.

Does anyone else have problems accessing the internal storage? /storage/emulated/0 doesn't exist any longer in my file explorer, but if I check the location of a stored picture it says ../emulated/0/..

Edit: Hmm.. looks like /data/media/0/... is the new location of internal storage, the gallery and voice recorder show the old location though.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shingers5:
Great work man. Tried and flashed a personal build from my mate [MENTION=262147]vertigo[/MENTION] but it soft reboot when doing anything like open apps or access menu. Gonna try this and ask him to build of your git
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ogy77:
I remove my account and then back but is the same again cant nothing download from market:(
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] AlienSr1:
Well then try again, remove the account, clear app data from: market, google play services and download manager, reboot, open the play store and add your account.

Hope this works, tell me if it doesn't ;).
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shingers5:
No market issues as restored over 20 apps on flash. However camera is a prob. Took a few pics and gallery fc now can't connect to camera. Libs might need updating as PA has similar issues
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] Ogy77:
Mate thank you now work perfect,thank you.Just fixed camera and this almost perfect rom.
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] pulser_g2:
Camera issue is a regular known issue. Try disabling the flash and it will be fine - known Samsung derpage when using flash and autofocus. Focal (the new CM camera app) might help, so let's see :)
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shingers5:
Thanks mate. Downloaded focal from earlier post so will install to see if it helps. Flash disabled for now

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Focal app works and no freezes or camera launch errors. Slight graphic glitch on launch and on ext but all is well so far
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] albsat:
Does the s4 Google edition camera app works well in this release?
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shingers5:
Try it and let us know
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] bahtsiz_bedevi:
I tried to install it as normal app. Can't install it. Didn't try to copy into /system folder though...
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] shingers5:
Copy to /system/app and change permissions to rw__rr then reboot
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] sebtorres82:
I'm staying all night to see what will happened next.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] jimmypop13:
I just installed cm10.2 on my vzw note 2 today and immediately went back bc the advanced settings menu was gone and I had no way of turning off the button lights! I like to enable softkeys on mine. I was so mad this menu was gone! Thanks for exposing all this. Sounds like it's one guy on a power trip thinking he knows what's best for everyone else. Ugh! I hope they get rid of him
[Galaxy Note II Original Android Development] maniac103:
The problem is that it's a total BS argument in this particular case. The change that removed it was on review for a couple of days and had an insanely long reviewer list. There was no 'one person decides' thing involved here.

BTW, most of the self-+2 happen simply because noone gives any review comments for quite a while. I don't think letting bitrot fixes when that happens is a good idea. There surely are exceptions to that (where changes were +2ed too quickly), but that doesn't happen often and is not nearly the problem that pulser_g2 makes it.

And BTW, the rant about arcee being on a strike for removing features is totally misguided. There's even a change for bringing back DeviceParts temporarily where he's involved. The goal is just to a) make UI consistent and b) remove the

weird

options, not the useful ones - and this goal isn't an arcee-only thing, it's shared by a lot of the CM people.