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[Galaxy S II General] noim:
S4 didn't even get 4.3 !!!

May b its time we stop dreaming and wake up to realise that Samsung wont give any more updates to S2..
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Too harsh... But i guess its true.. Still i belive we have 1 jb update left.. I dun expect stock 4.3 on bt i belive 4.2 will be there... And 4.2 aint buggy :p who said this??
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
I did. On s3 its buggy. Leak on s3 is buggy this is why they are going to skip it. So if its buggy on s3 it will be buggy on s2.
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Okay but which build is buggy..sammy 4.2 leaked one or the aosp 4.2?? :p sorry i really dont knw coz either is use cm10.2 (for mind satisfaction) or cm9 for battery satisfaction :D
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Stock touchwiz
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
Come on, you can't compare leaked firmware to actual official releases.

XDA Premium 4 (Yes, a new version O.O)
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Point to be noted my lord... :D

Sammy has released 4.2 for quite a number of devices past week... If trend continues we may have a update(lol 4.2) soon..:)
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
You can because the test "leak" firmware is to see if it works well or not. And it dont. So my point it is is that s3 isnt getting 4.2.2 we all no this. Abit like when the s2 didnt get 4.1.1

Also its not bin given to the s3 or the note 2, I wonder why??? Hardware maybe...time will tell
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Not just me that think it will come instead of 4.2.2. Drippler is a better for info than sammobile.
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
More updates for S2 and other devices may come after Note 3 announcement . If another update for S2 is on its way, I'll be a loyal Samsung user for life
[Galaxy S II General] olyloh6696:
Is there a source for that?
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
Not at all, more trash talking.

The truth is that STILL we have 0 info about 4.2.2 for S2/S3/Note/Note2 and 4.2 for all those and S4.
[Galaxy S II General] rrgrrg:
u have a solid proof sir :) the 4.2.2 is out in germany for the s2 plus :D 2 weeks ago
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
Yea, but S2 plus is NOT S2, no relation between them :(

S2 plus is not a flagship, it's only a phone to put more options in the market. S2/S3/Note/Note2 on the other hand ARE flagships and those are the importants.

Also S2 plus doesn't use Exynos while S2 does, and the problem with 4.2.2 is related to the Exynos CPU and the chipset.
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
At last someone gets it. No one is thinking why the s2+got an update over the s3 and note 2! S3, note ect will jump to 4.3 because of this problem with hardware. Now all we have to do is wait a sammy to pull his finger out and release it :D
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
What part of the word "may" you didn't see or understand :o
[Galaxy S II General] Shahrokh.KING:
this is not a rumor we will not get android 4.2.x, they will not do this to keep S2+ (really?! plus?!) not to lose market
[Galaxy S II General] noim:
If sammy releases 4.3 for s3 then can our Dev's port it for us? I mean we have similar Exynos cpu and Mali 400 gpu ..!
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
There already is a 4.3 port if I'm not wrong. It was PAC I think.

Alpha stage though.

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Discussion is about stock sammy rom ...:)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
No they are different both CPU & GPU wise.
[Galaxy S II General] Jazavchar:
I cannot believe that people took for granted the news that S II will for sure get 4.2.2. Personally, I never believed it for a second and I've fully resigned that 4.1.2 will be the last version we'll see on the S II. You have to understand that manufactureres hate smartphones and specifically Android with it's rapid release cycle. They loved feature phones the most when they could justify putting out a new model just for the new version of their "dumb OS". I'm willing to bet that there won't be 4.2.2. nor 4.3 for that matter for the Galaxy S II.
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
"Manufacturers hate smartphones"??

Yeah probably the only reason all manufacturers release their flagships as a smartphone...not a dumb phone..

Regarding first half..

When gt-i9000 was denied ics.. there was a official statement by samsung

Unless sammy say there is no 4.2 for 9100 (2011 flagship).. expectation is no false dream..
[Galaxy S II General] adityaf:
lol u call galaxy grand dumb we got cm 10.2 and also miui :P first phone with broadcom and so much development! Take a look at forum!
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
Okay although its not broadcom vs exynos... any phone that runs android is smart (like me :p) ...

[MENTION=3282149]vj_dustin[/MENTION] - what makes u think grand duos is dumb? :confused:

It runs jb out of box... doesnt it?
[Galaxy S II General] adityaf:
Yep its jb out of box :)
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
This!!

Samsung always makes a list of which devices will be updated and which won't for a new Android release.

I'll wait and see the list for Android 4.3 once it comes out. The major problem is the infinite variants for flagships(S2,S4) and this sucks when they commit to a certain year flagship and they have to take trouble of updating all variants instead of just the international version.

Due to this reason, they might ignore 2011 and just worry about devices launched after 2012 and later.
[Galaxy S II General] vmze:
stupid excuse
[Galaxy S II General] Mr_S:
You've done well to get updated to jb on a nearly 3 year old phone. No other oem would do this
[Galaxy S II General] Germian:
The next moment I'll get to some money, I'll upgrade to a new phone because a hacked together ROM for the SGS2 is just annoying - and yes, I know, it's not the devs fault, it's Samsung's fault for being a ***** with the Exynos CPU.

Random reboots with pretty 'stable-ish' 4.2 ROMs, About 10 hours of battery with nearly doing nothing with my phone (and I already use Greenify and all that stuff), can't play some newer games because the phone freezes, random laggyness although enough RAM is available and I don't really do a lot with my phone in some cases.

Besides my problems with the device itself, it already got 2 updates from 2.3 (GB) to 4.1 (JB-2) and the phone is OLD now. Nobody can expect Samsung to care anymore about the SGS2, so if you really cry about Samsung not providing any official updates and custom ROMs being to buggy for you - as it is in my case - just get a new phone already and move on.

Sometimes with an Android phone it's like with a sick pet: You should know when it's time to move on and put it to rest.

(But nevertheless I'm very thankful to all the devs who helped me not to use a dirty TouchWiz ROM all the time I had this phone)
[Galaxy S II General] Jazavchar:
Not in a literal sense. However, you do have to admit that the market demand for smartphones is huge and that's what the manufacturers are providing. They're not making phones because they love us or out of the goodness of their hearts. They simply see where the profit is and what they can get away with.

The goal of any company is to increase profit and cut down on costs. So when dumb phones ruled, manufacturers sometimes put out new versions of phones with just an updated firmware and few hardware changes (see Sony Ericcson's last couple of years). Now with the introduction of smartphones, and Apple, the rules and expectations have changed. Now the consumers expect to recieve firmware updates for at least a year after purchasing the phone which means only costs for the manufacturer. By releasing 4.3 Samsungs stands to gain nothing and only lose developer time and money on porting it to the phone. They'd much rather release a new one for $500 and expect you to buy it if you want JB 4.3.

And Samsung has proven this time and time again with its plethora of different variatons (see S2 Plus, S3 mini, S4 mini, S4 Active and so on).

Do you understand where I'm coming from?
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
quite a huge but this time a better explanation...:) do agree that software dept has to do its homework now :p
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
So in that case every 6 months with new Android release I'll have to buy a new phone ? Asking for updates or bug fixes isn't a curse and should be rights of every consumer . Remember "Windows XP" ?
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
buy a flagship.. they generally get 2-3 android upgrades... mid ranges generally get just a single update..
[Galaxy S II General] animatrix999:
my s2 is old but it sill rocking hard
[Galaxy S II General] Karls0:
I hope one day Android will be like Windows - you can install it on ever pc, and it doesn't matter what is inside, it will lagg eventually but you can try. Why it can't be as simple as this?
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
That's what happens on xda lol.

Before my S2, I had the Optimus one and I ran Jelly Bean on a 600mhz 512mb ram device :p

I haven't followed up but there might be 4.2 or even 4.3 roms for it now.

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] Red_Vex:
Good point but... Why don't release the old exynos Source and let the community do the rest?

Inviato dal mio GT-I9100
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
sources will let the developers make the best use of their 2yr old phone..

so why would one buy a new model ?? :p direct sales decrease...

seems logicial aint it??
[Galaxy S II General] Red_Vex:
A developer even a genius can't compete with a Samsung firmware. As you can see the cyanogen for snapdragon ain't perfect. In anycase my next phone will be a nexus one
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
cm is way better than sammy..

faster quicker more responsive (although battery consuming)

cm vs sammy fw is matter of individual preference so lets not discuss it :) its a never ending topic

i use cm9 stable as my daily driver :p
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
I have learnt this in few years on the internet.

Never compare anything, ANYTHING!

It just leads to an endless useless debate after which nothing changes, people just get tired.. XD

Eg: Android vs iOS, COD vs BF, NVIDIA vs ATI, CM vs Stock etc etc..
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
exactly :)
[Galaxy S II General] Jazavchar:
Absolutely on point. Doctor_droid understood perfectly what I was saying. There is literally zero incentive for Samsung to support a 2yr old phone. Once you've bought it that's it, they can't get anymore money out of you. Unless you wish to pay for updates?!! However what they are more than wiling to do is, say, put out yet another variant like Galaxy S 2 plus/minus/multiply/mini/maxi or something. Coming to think of it, that is exactly a round-about way of paying for an upgrade to 4.2.2 for S2.
[Galaxy S II General] Karls0:
If i could get 4.3 update for 10$ it's very probable i buy it. Maybe it is a idea ;D
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
That's a great idea.

If they are so money hungry, they should start a kickstarter and set their hunger limit goal.

If reached, they should start developing and release for the backers first and public later.
[Galaxy S II General] ayman16:
we have to wait
[Galaxy S II General] Opuske:
I dont actually care if they do release it or not.

Ill just put custom roms and keep with those :)
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
You're missing a BIG point.

Samsung tries not only to atract Android/WP/other stuff users, but also iPhone users. And those users are REALLY USED getting updates.

That old said "only 1% of the people care about android updates" it's not true. I know people that moved from iOS to Android, and they are asking why they have gotten no updates notification after X time, and got really angry when they learnt how the updates system works here.

In the past, delivering phones was OK. After Apple made people used for OS update, people WANTS them, and its starting to be an increasing need for people that doesn't even know what a OS is (yeah, kinda lame).
[Galaxy S II General] Karls0:
Totally true, and that's why iOS will always have at least 10% of smartphones users. Some just can't accept this forcing to change phone every half year if you don't want to use custom roms and want to be up to date.
[Galaxy S II General] Jazavchar:
Hmm we're kinda saying the same thing. Yes, it was Apple that changed the game from regular dumb phones to smartphones and in the process taught people to want and expect new OS updates for your phone.

Now onto your second point. I would agree that in the begging (the Galaxy S 1 era) Samsung was trying really really hard to win over iOS folk. They even copied their design in TouchWiz and, at that time, Android on Samsung looked nothing like AOSP (Froyo and Gingerbread area). However, I would now argue that Samsung has enough of a brand following and brand recognition of its own. It no longer needs to poach customers from Apple or other manufacturers since the Galaxy brand is a very strong one. I've noticed that recently when ever I mention Nexus 4 a large majority of people immediately thought I was talking about Galaxy S4. In their minds Android = Galaxy line.

And thirdly, you have to understand that in the overall scheme of things the number of people who do care about prompt updates is very small, as to even be negligible to Samsung. And you see most of them *****ing on at Sammobile or XDA how they're never again buying a Samsung phone yet, most of them inevitably end up with a Samsung phone again. Do not be fooled, Samsung invested a lot into market research and they know exactly what they're doing. To them, putting out new phones with ever more gimmicks (s-health, smart stay, smart dial, smart-what-have-you) far outweighs the possible loss of a few thousand customers who are enraged over the lack of updates. The bottom line is, Samsung pretty much has the Android market cornered and I hope one of the other manufacturers, (HTC, Sony, Moto) steps up their game soon cause a Sammy monopoly is not good for anyone. By the looks of it, almost all of them are far worse than Samsung when it comes to updates.
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
About the first point, I see we agree there :D.

About the second one, It's true that Samsung got an strong "Galaxy" trademark and that it rules by itself, but its a business, and its mission its to WIN MORE MONEY. Even if they got the highest % of smarphone selling out there with their trademark, they wanted, want and ALWAYS will seek for MORE MONEY, and that means trying to attract iOS users specially like no tomorrow.

About the third point, I strongly disagree on this:

As I told you, I know people that has 0 idea about what Android/root/XDA is, and they still are asking for updates just because they were used in iOS. That is not the "geek" people you're talking about, that is the "normal user" of an smartphone, deep into the 99% of no-geeks group. Even those people, if they were used on getting updates on iOS, will miss updates on Android and may complain about it (like in this case).

However, I agree on that samsung has spent a lot on market research and that they are also focusing on gimmicks just to attract people. But they always update their flagships (S1 started on 2.1 and ended on 2.3, like the Nexus One; S2 started on 2.3 and is still on 4.1, so it the worst case if it doesn't get to 4.2+, it'd have gotten the exactly same updates than Nexus S. And probably this will happen with Galaxy Nexus-S3 and Nexus 4-S4.) and this cost money, a lot of money. They know they need to update in ordert not only to keep clients, but to get more :P
[Galaxy S II General] 100janov:
Any news?
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Nothing till nexus 5 comes out. From what I understand 4.2.2 is binned for 4.3 and that wont show till late 2013/early 2014. 4.2.2 dont have no big improvement anyway. I was on 4.2.2 on s3 and droped bk to 4.1.2
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
No big improvement? :what:

Locksreen widgets, ability to zoom anywhere on any app, statusbar toggle panels, photo sphere???

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Lockscreen ok thats ok but photo sphere we have already. Status bar toggle we have already. Ability to zoom to me is pointless. Page bubby is ok too. Like I said no big improvement really. Morgan Freeman kicks ass..thats cool to
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
Ability to zoom is hugely important since I play draw some and really need it to draw those fine lines.

Also we have photo sphere? :confused:

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Theams and apps s4 camera. Works very well. Video dont for some

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[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
Man, I'm trying not to root here and you're giving me root candy xD

I'll wait a few months to see if any news on official arrives else I guess I'll get rooting :p

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] andrewwright:
Root it. then download new firmware from sammobile when it lands and flash it with mobile odin. Rooting and flashing is the best part of Android. You dont need network to upgrade you and it will be quick to you if you grab let say england gets the new firmware first and you live in Spain. Spain will have to wait while sammobile will have it on there site in probably 2hr max so everyone can use that to upgrade and flash with odin/mobile odin Hope you get what I mean.

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[Galaxy S II General] sergio114:
S2 yeah work good apps for s4
[Galaxy S II General] rhazahrd:
:good:
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
I know.

The only reason I'm not rooting is because once I do, I will always keep downloading and flashing every other rom.

The flashaholic cycle of backup format restore will begin :p

Also the disable feature works as a replacement for titanium backup to get rid of bloat. And this device doesn't really need OC :p

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] Urmas1:
Have anyone noticed that updates to 4.1.2 on sammobile page there are only 7 of them in August and 5 of them are for South Africa.

Seems Sammy is on finish line with upgrading to 4.1.2. Two major PDA-s are XWLSS and XWLSW.

Maybe now they are concentrating for something new... :silly:
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
4.4.? Anyone ?
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
They've announced 4.3 for S3 and S4 on Octuber (so they can connect with Gear). I know S2 doesn't have Bluetooth 4.0 so it can't pair up with Gear (at least officialy for now) and would be pointless to update to 4.3 for that reason.

That drops even more points for any update.
[Galaxy S II General] zanakorus33:
Someone sayed there is problem with update due to mali drivers, but s3 have the same GPU only higher clocked. So the driver should not be any problem.

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[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Galaxy s3 & s4 would be updated to 4.3 next month as per the announcement during IFA 2013 so S2 & Note 1 users can just stop thinking about updates from here on.
[Galaxy S II General] jl10101:
Updates for me :) haha, Im surprised they came so quick for SA, we had to wait forever for ICS :(
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
I flashed the xwlsd fw of france made in jan ... and not a single ota update on that fw
[Galaxy S II General] tonystuck:
if only samsung release the kernel source code...
[Galaxy S II General] rakeshishere:
Well they do?

Opensource.samsung.com

Unless you're talking about Exynos sources?? :confused:
[Galaxy S II General] supergear:
25K is $25,000 in the us
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
Who are you replying to? :p

And anyhow 25K means 25000 Indian rupee which roughly comes up as $400

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] Urmas1:
I hope you got it now. :cyclops:

France, Sept. 2013 XWLSW
[Galaxy S II General] doctor_droid:
M on cm10.2 30/8 nightly currently.. Its working beautifully...so i dun know :/
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
I think this is a trustworthy source.

SamMobile
[Galaxy S II General] RusherDude:
This isn't official anyway, but you can get the idea. They wont say such an statement without at least a reliable source, it would be negative as hell to their image if some update for the Note or S2 appeared now..
[Galaxy S II General] little_tom:
sad

but dont worry, there are many up to date custom rom out there..
[Galaxy S II General] Paul Blake:
Custom roms dont have the same stability and battery as stock
[Galaxy S II General] Squaredot:
That is true. I am jumping roms back and forth and I generally end up crying out loud for battery life. Seriously, I get around 9h of NORMAL usage with only 2 home screens and 2 widgets (calendar and clock) and it is getting in my nerves.

I really need battery life and don't want to buy a new phone for this reason. I have ordered a 2000mah battery and lets see if that works somehow but... sigh.
[Galaxy S II General] AlexC1984:
Not 4.2? Ok, It's time to change device, and get nexus... 4 or 5... uhm...
[Galaxy S II General] Mcjim113:
You might be surprised I'm getting all day out of my s2 (about 3 hours screen on mixed use) on the most recent PA rom and the 2000mah battery.

What I noticed is that the original battery which was near 2 years old had long gone past it's best and could not hold a good charge anymore.
[Galaxy S II General] Paul Blake:
Original battery is not so bad... for my 1year old s2 battery still rules with jb
[Galaxy S II General] bodomfan:
What Rom is that
[Galaxy S II General] vj_dustin:
Yeah even I get 3-4 hrs on stock JB unrooted from the original battery. It's been an year now :D

Narrated by Morgan Freeman
[Galaxy S II General] Mcjim113:
You have some good times there I never saw that sort of time on my original battery! however I've not used stock rom since GB lol. Your year old battery's are still quite new though, mine was easily encroaching on 5-600 charge cycles and it was not so good anymore.
[Galaxy S II General] bor51:
never

i'm not going to quit my SGS2 untill smokes rise over it. Almost everyday i see a new rom. So it's a passion to use S2.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amsnair:
hi friends, i recently noticed the VRTHEME-BACKUP AND 0 folder in sd card is taking so much space. Pls help me in knowing what it is and can those be deleted?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] retrorom:
Please do NOT delete the 0 folder, it contains lots of your data, you probably are on an AOSP Rom, right?

If I'm not mistaken this folder has user data in it, so when you delete it, you'll have lots of trouble. I don't know anything about the VRTHEME one though...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ermal77:
Hello to all Friends!

thanks in advance for any of your suggestions or help here!

now let me tell my problem

i have a usb modem

Alcatel One Touch x500e

i need to know if is any possibility to unlock it to work with other sim card operators(it is working on Wind Italy right now)

thanks in advance for your responses
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Postal Dude:
Managed to softbrick my HTC one o2 UK.

Not sure if anyone has had the same problems, and if they have i cant find it for love nor money.

I can get into hboot and into cwm recovery. Recovery cannot mount sdcard or data, i have ADB pushed cm10.1 to sdcard but cannot access it via the recovery, i have also sideload installed the cm10.1 zip via ADB sideload but i still get a bootloop.

i did have a nandroid backup but in a fruitless effort trying to go back to stock i forgot to backup the nandroid to pc, and when i relocked bootloader it wiped.

I have hboot 1.44 and am using cwm 6.0.3.2 if that helps. I would like to get it back to stock o2uk factory if at all possible (cant find relevant RUU)

Any and all help appreciated. Cheers
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] herwegan:
do you have s-off? if yes, i'd suggest to flash the official open europe RUU "RUU_M7_UL_JB_50_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.7" (since we don't have a o2uk RUU/Nnandroid):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39588860

you can use hasoon2000's toolkit for this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2183942

good luck :)