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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chan1628:
i was at a friend's house and connected to his wifi network... for some reason, my phone did not experience the data downloads

so i expanded my testing and went into a couple public hotspots (starbucks, McD's) ... once again, no background data downloads

afterwards when I went home, the phone was back into constant downloading mode on wifi

just throwing out some random ideas and thoughts here... could diff routers and/or settings play a part in this massive data download issue we're all having??

BTW, i've never experienced this data download issue while on 3g

currently running slim 8
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chainer22:
sorry for asking this noob question, but how do i do that?

is it through settings->backup & restore?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im4eversmart:
yup
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
This is really a weird issue, have you guys read bout the fix for this wakelock?, because it is rather different from the Google Services battery drain.

Worked for some time the same for me, but after a couple of days I re enabled the option and everything worked fine.

The point here, is although you restricted the background data, maybe the process could be still working. So no data is sent to Google's servers, but maybe the process is still working. also, you didn't say which is your new battery drain, just said it is 15%-20%.

Google Services drain will be the first place when not using the phone much, I don't know why. It will be back to normal when using the phone.

Some people also reported that radio could be the problem, and some other reported that some kind of routers could also be the problem for a battery drain. I don't really know about the problem because I didn't read properly, but there is some useful information around there.

I don't know if this could help to the battery drain.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kendaihou:
Yep. Read it and tried it nothing worked. It comes and goes for me but this time its been WEEKS and hasn't went away yet. I have both the OS and the Google services. Just the OS wake lock is much worse. Waiting on the OS 4.4 and hopefully it fixes it. Nothing I can do right now.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
For all of you guys, I highly recommend PSX ROM from [MENTION=4110652]ctfrommn[/MENTION], very fast and smooth ROM, with just few tweaks, so the experience is almost Google's stock one with steroids:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2392624

:good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Maybe changing ROM/GAPPS?.

:confused:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] im4eversmart:
Google service is up again at 15% omg , it just goes for few days and comes back again.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lalec:
Read the thread started by skipjacks titled how to get insanely better battery life when idle. It works on these too.

Sent from my SGH-M919
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DoRiLoN:
Hey guys, I have 87% usage from Android OS on Nexus 7 with 4.2.2 and location off?!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SushiR:
I searched the web a lot these days to find a hint what to do about this mess. It wasn't very helpful because the "cure" to battery drain is known already.

But what I found was a very interesting statement that came from the Google guys itself. They said that location services (as needed by Google Now, Maps etc) will cause a drain of aprox 1% per hour. While that doesn't sound alarming, it is - if you think twice. If your phone can last 24 hrs between charging with location reporting/history on, how long could it last without?!

While I'm aware that location reporting will drain your battery, is it really legit that it'll drain 25 (or so) percent of your battery? Come on, they cannot be serious. To be honest I'm really pissed about that - and I'm not even in need of location services that much. And if it would suck 10% I'd be fine with it. But we all know it doesn't work that way. And the Android team should do something to solve the problem and reduce the drain ASAP!

Today Google Services had a rate of 60 (!) percent within 3 hrs (yeah, I was giving it another try since I flashed a new ROM). Obviously I turned all that location stuff OFF and now I'm fine with 4 hrs SOT and one charge a day.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Sometimes it happens like that, it comes after some time and disappear in the same way.

I read the guide, but most of people want notifications and things related to a smartphone, no point at least for me in having a msm/call phone when I need mails, chats and the Google suite. Anyway, is very well explained how to freeze all those.

Maybe you have another kind of wakelock. Try to install WakelockDetector and see what is awakening your phone. Very useful to know which is the correct wakelock, so we can properly fix it.

We would love to see this, but I don't think would be a fix until 4.4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SushiR:
Probably. I'm fine now without location reporting. Device running for 20,5 hrs, SOT 2,5 hrs (including watching 25 mins of 1080p video). Battery is at 38%. :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Really nice stats, hope it keeps like that and no wakelock reappear.

:good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mangoman:
My phone have been behaving fine for two weeks. One night on the Qi charger and it was almost empty. Google services was to blame again.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hc_nexus:
I did have the high Android OS battery usage.

Try this:

go to settings->apps->all->find Google Play store

touch "Google Play store" and "Uninstall updates"

Start "Hangouts" and say yes to the question about Hangouts need to update play...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chainer22:
Using wakelockdetector, i found out that wakelock is caused by SystemUpdateService. I have enabled background data (disabling it screwed up some apps), but disabled the SystemUpdateService using "Disable Service" app. Google services is no longer draining data, but draining battery due to the wakelock mentioned above.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
I think QI charger produces wakelocks on some devices, but I doubt it is Google Services wakelock related. I think that is more Android OS wakelock related, but not sure, since I don't have a charger of those.

Funny workaround.

It seems that your phone want to update repeatedly. Some people also reported this and a huge data usage on the background.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ap1618:
Even if you have all other location options enabled as you mentioned, but have the wifi location access option turned off in the settings, then the other options being turned on has no effect... none of the google apps are usable. Try using google now with location access turned off. it'll tell your turn it on in settings.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chainer22:
any solutions to kill that wakelock? i have searched everywhere but to no avail
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
This make sense, still could be an option for those who still have the wakelock. Personally I got ride of it, but it seems that is coming back since today.

:(

Don't use that charger, people reported using wall charger fixes this, I don't know if it is a workaround for using Qi charger.

:confused:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chainer22:
charger?! my wakelock is due to manual disabling of the SystemUpdateService using the Disable Service app.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adaway:
Thanks for all the testing/analysis of this battery drain issue.

After some testing, may solution/fix is simple, I disabled Google Now

Google -> Setting -> GoogleNow (All cards) -> Off (also turn off location history)

I know maybe I'm strange, but I always fond all those voice controlled things totally useless (Google now, Samsung Voice, Siri....)

I don't ask my phone to do something, "I" do it :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirastrike:
Hey guys, been looking up answers as to why my battery drains so quickly when I'm mostly idle. It drains maybe 12-15% in 4 hours after fully charged. I don't think I have the Google services problem. I attached a few pics below; hopefully, the community could help. Im running stock rom updated 4.3. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian88:
Is there anyone try to make Google Services hibernate by Greenify? Dóe it work for this problem?

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DoRiLoN:
Tried that. The WakelockDetecter just shows 100% awake without showing a particular app that caused it...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Shouldn't be a drain if you disable the whole process. Maybe you disabled something else or part of the whole task.

People usually use Google Now, but if you don't use it, wakelock will disappear if you don't have have it enabled.

I don't see any problem here, your screen is the number one cause of drain which is totally normal. You have normal Google Services wakelock as well as radio wakelock(msm hsic wakelock). Your stats are really normal.

Haven't use Greenify, although I heard really good comments on it.

You should look for kernel wakelocks, not apps.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 511pf:
All,

Just wanted to chime in with some additional results. I have an HTC First with Facebook Home turned off, making it a mostly stock Android 4.1.2 device. I have the same Wakelock issue that's been described here, where my phone was awake approximately 30% of the time while on Wifi and not touching it. I would lose 3% to 4% per hour while using the phone semi-regularly. I used BBS and Wakelock detector and the biggest hit was from the NLPDataCollector or NLP Collector (I forget the actual name).

I am not signed in to Google+. I disabled the option to Notify When an Open network is Available and Automatically connect to AT&T Wifi, but this made no difference.

Disabling Wifi and Location Access absolutely fixed the issue. However, this broke some Google Now functionality, so I was looking for another way. My next test was re-enable Wifi and Location Access and disable Location Reporting only, which let the phone deep sleep approximately 95% of the time on Wifi (from 70% prior to that). Google Now works fine. I'm still testing the battery life change, but so far it looks like I'm in the 1% to 2% per hour range, which would probably double my battery life.

Summary: Wifi and Location = On. Location Reporting = Off. Location History = On. Battery life (so far) in the 1% to 2% per hour range.

I will update this post with further results as I have them.

Edited: My phone has no 4.3 update or ROMs and probably never will, so I've got to work with the platform I've got.

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Just following up here. I'm losing less than 1% per hour after turning off Location Reporting, as noted above. The phone is deep sleeping 90% of the time, but this is during the workday, where it's picking up mail/calendars up from multiple accounts.

10 1/2 hours of fairly light use today and I've lost about 1.7% per hour total. Deep sleep time = 87% and awake time = 13%. This is a major improvement over the previous results.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shekinahsmoke:
thanks for the info....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Added your post to OP.

:)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DoRiLoN:
So where can we find thoese 2 things: Location Reporting = Off. Location History = On on the nexus?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegios:
There two places where locations can be configured

ANDROID SETTINGS > ACCESS TO MY POSITION: this controls location from 3rd party apps, leave always on

If this is on you have two options:

1) GPS

2)wifi and location

1) is controlled also by the GPS switch on the power control widget

2) can be left on as suggested

MAPS > SETTINGS > Google geolocalisatio: this controls location from google apps, leave always on

If this is on you have two options:

1) location reporting: leave this off as it seems the one causing battery drain, this reports your location to google at give time intervals

2) location history: up to you if you wnat to leave this on
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Largamelion:
I now have everything enabled in 'Location access' (both GPS and Wi-Fi & mobile network location) but completely disabled 'Access location' in Google Settings (it 's under 'Location'). I have always had 'Location reporting' turned off, so that 's not enough.

With the above configuration, all apps can access my location except Google apps but the drain of Google Services is gone. Of course there 's no way to use Maps with this configuration but that isn't really an issue for me as I barely use it. At least my weather widgets are now displaying the correct location again.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegios:
are u saying that having google location on but location reporting and location history off is not enough and that we have to have the whole google location off?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Largamelion:
I can only speak for myself, but yes that is my experience.

Will do more testing in the next couple of days.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Interesting finding, under Google settings it clearly states that the location is used by "Google Apps", so is pretty logical that the location just affect those apps. For every app, I think we would have to disable the location settings on general phone settings.

This:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcusdav:
I have been having this battery drain for the last couple of days under google services, i read the first post in this thread and thought ok, easy, just switch off wifi & mobile network location. I looked under location in the settings and guess what, the option isnt there any more??????

Am i just missing something, im sure it used to be there!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Can you post a screenshot?. Are you using a Nexus 4?.

It should be there, but also, some people is reporting that disabling reporting location makes the trick. Read the last update, very useful post.

:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcusdav:
Sorry, ive just noticed this thread is in the nexus 4 section, I have a htc one.

I have attached a screenshot

Also, it seems that in the battery usage in the android settings is reporting that the usage of google services has dropped from 99% to 23% since switching all location stuff off whereas battery doctor is still reporting 99%
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] henihazbay:
Hi there

Can you give an update on your settings and battery usage?

Thanks.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 511pf:
Original post here.

Yes. I still have Location Reporting (only) off and all other settings as described in the original post, and I lose about 0.8% per hour when idle, screen off and on WiFi. I generally get 48 hours-plus of usage out of the phone, which is excellent. I haven't done extensive idle testing on LTE yet, but as I indicated in the original post, I had serious issues with battery drain on WiFi. (I'm on Wifi at home and work, so that was the most important scenario for my purposes). Again, this is an HTC First, so my solution may not work for everyone. My battery life is now better than it was on my iPhone, at least when connected to WiFi.

Hope that helps.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Yeah, this is unfortunately the case. But if you turn off access to all Google Apps, then Maps won't work.

How many of you are using Google Now and facing this issue? Let's think about this very clearly. Which app is running in the background constantly relying on your location? If it's not Latitude, or Google+ location sharing, then it's Google Now. It's unfortunate for me to report, but it seems like the way around this is to just cut Google Now off. It's a nice feature, but it's certainly a battery drainer.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scherfa:
But.. I never used Google Now but I had battery draining too. I think it is not Google now which causes the problems.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Largamelion:
^^ What he said. I never used Google Now and had the same issue.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Try to disable all the Google's related options and see if this improve the battery.

Nice that you fixed it.

Google Now is always sending info to Google's servers about location,so when you open Google Now, it can tell you about near places and stuff like that. Indeed Maps won't work, but if you are going to use it, you can enable the options and then disabling them.

Yes, it is Google Now and the Location Services, no matter if you use it or not, still the application is sending the info to Google's servers. As loong as you have Google Search installed or Voice Search, it would be the same. In theory, as long as you don't have any Google app, you shouldn't be having issues of Google Services drain.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcusdav:
Yeah, cheers, it was google location services, thats now disabled and battery is fine. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian88:
My dad's xperia T has never used Google Now, but Google Services still drain battery like hell

I dont know why but my N4 has stopped this problem when I disabled location reporting and I tried this way with xperia T but it not works

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
You have to disable "Access Location" from Google Location Settings as well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian88:
Disable it, I could just use a half of Maps app. I've never disable it for my N4

Sent from my Nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Agree. I don't disable it either, but if your goal is to stop the battery drain from Google Services, that's the way to do it. I've mentioned it here in the thread before that it's like turning off the water main to deal with a leak in your faucet. It's not the proper solution, but if google's not fixing the leak, then we either put up with it or cut the source.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
OP you also have to gauge this in terms wakelocks and not just how high the % is in battery drain. For someone who uses a lot of SOT throughout the day, screen will be the top item.

The issue is I still see nlpwakelocks all over the place on my phone despite having location reporting off.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
:good:

Yes, all posted here are just workarounds, not proper fixes.

Well, you are right in the part of the wakelocks, but to stop those wakelocks, we should have to delete all the Google Services related stuff, it is normal to have some wakelocks and kernel processes, but the point is that they behave normally, not at top of it. The easiest way to see this is in the battery graph.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
PSX 8.2 is out now, with new and tweaked kernel.

It seems that somewhere between today and tomorrow would be a new release with kernel improvements.

:victory:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaniawave:
Google Services power demand decreased

Hi all! It's my first post but it's nothing suprising as I have my N4 since last Saturday.

Long story short. I tried to do everything what was said here and on other websites and so on. I wanted to exploid all the solutions before I root my device and try different ROM. So this is what happend in my case:

Google Services was up to 50% at the beginning

Switching off ACCESS LOCATION helped only a bit at the beginning. I had still a drain like a 20% during the night with everything else switched off.

I have installed the Wakelock Detector to check what is draining my battery, but obviously I knew that these are the Google Services and that was true what Wakelock Detector said.

Once I disabled GOOGLE SERVICES completely. It means that I couldn't open gmail or anything. The phone does not work properly then, but... I enabled it and restarted the phone and left it fully charged next to my bed for overnight.

In the morning, after 6:30 hours, 2% of the battery was gone. Google Services not visible on the list of running apps.

I just noticed that when I now swicthed ON the GOOGLE MAPS, I have now again Google Services in running apps and more services inside. I'll report later if the problem with Google Services on top of the running apps comes back.

Greets!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaniawave:
I forgot to put a screenshot. This is the status of my battery after whole night and then six hours of normal using.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Galaxo60:
Google Services should be around 10%. This would be the normal drain now with 4.3. Before 4.3 it didn't even exist. Hope the problem was fixed, also I have noticed that Google Play battery drain varies with each day and screen time as someone posted before.

This looks nice, I really like PSX, but the only drawback is when playing it really eats the battery, more than stock kernel. If people don't play any games, it is the perfect combination between battery and performance.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaniawave:
I just wanted to make an update of my battery status and Google services problem. It seems that it doesn't exist any more on my cellphone. If someone wants another clarification about what exactly I did, just write me a message or post here a question.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aeoveu:
And here's the question...in the form of a statement...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hmmy 4444:
wt does this mean.. is it good???
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaniawave:
Google Services power drain

So I would say it is good. You don't have Google Services as a main app that is using your battery.

One part of this thread is aiming into Google Services power demand. I don't have it on my list of most power consuming apps, so it's good, isn't it? Now I use 2% of battery through the night instead of 20%.

Now comes the question: how long does the battery on Nexus4 hold? After removing the problem of Google Services I would say that the life of my battery with the normal use (sometimes check something in the internet, few phone calls, a bit of gaming) is about 24h now. So I still need to charge it everyday, but only through the night. I don't have to plug my Nexus into the socket whenever I have the opportunity to do that.

Greets!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aeoveu:
Accidentally thanked :s

So what is it that you did then with your phone? You still haven't revealed that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaniawave:
Explanation

I'll try to explain again what I did, maybe now it will be a bit more clear.

But I have to admit that I'm not sure exactly which step have actually worked.

At the beginning I disabled all the Google Apps that are using localization. I disabled Google Now, in the settings of Google maps I disabled Access location... This was all written before on some forums as a first thing to do.

This unfortunately didn't make a trick. I still had Google Services as a main power draining app active.

Then I have installed Wakelock Detector because I read some other posts in the internet but I realized that I need to root my device in order to let this app working correctly. I didn't root my device at the end. I decided first to exploit all the solutions without rooting the device.

I don't know if Wakelock Detector made its work by itself because at the same time I performed another action that might have worked.

I went into settings ---> apps and I manually disabled the Google Services. This resulted in misfunction of many applications. Gmail was not working, Google Maps and so on.

I enabled Google Services again and since that time everything is working just fine. I'm really not sure if switching off and on the Google services made a trick or Wakelock Detector or any other misterious event.

note: there was no main system update during the process described.