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[RAZR HD Android Development] Megaroad:
I'm not being disrespectful in the slightest. I'm making a very reasonable and appropriate observation. You're the one being snide and nasty.

Regarding other devs using this work to make ROMs - since epinter and his friends appear to be the only devs actively working on this phone who have deep knowledge about how to make things function, it would make sense for them to do their releases and communication in a way that would help other, less knowledgeable devs release stable things. As it is, it's just a bunch of untested releases and other roms that are broken because those nightlies are broken. The whole community is based around these builds right now.

It's weird that the notion of testing and then releasing is viewed as some outlandish concept that only a caveman would consider. I understand that's how CyanogenMod does their development, but it's just not an effective or appropriate method for a device that has never yet had a fully stable and functional version of 4.2+ developed for it.

I'd also like to point out that it's not as if I'm making this observation after a few weeks of development. It's been many months since the bootloader got unlocked, and currently builds don't seem to be more reliable or functional on the whole than builds that were released in like March. I've flashed countless builds that Epinter et al have put together, and it has been fun, but I think I'm saying something appropriate.
[RAZR HD Android Development] madmonkey57:
Clean flashed epinter's UNOFFICIAL 7/30 + gapps on my XT925 (with shabbypenguin's recovery as it possibly matters). Went fine.

All in all, quite smooth, and no root out of the box, as expected. Installed a few apps, played around with Focal. It's very promising though slightly unstable at the moment. Still my biggest concern is not being able to choose my external SD card as my default repository. By the way, same problem with the default camera app (at least, I could not find a way).

Then, I wanted to reboot so that my theme gets properly installed with all the icons. I though it would be a good idea to switch back to the recovery to clean cache / fix permissions, can't hurt, can it?... then rebooted... Strangely, I was back to the recovery... Rebooted again... And I got this nice surprise... Got stuck at the "M" logo... I forced the device back to the recovery, rebooted... then again unexpectely back to the recovery and then stuck at the "M" logo again... Only way out of this loop was to restore a stock 4.1.2 nandroid backup...

I didn't have time to test any BT feature... Also, the battery life still seemed to drain faster than stock, but difficult to tell for sure since I was on 4.3 for only a few hours.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Orphee:
I tried quite fast Dhacker 31/07 build. Sound crash on car dock.

I guess there's only Skrilax's dirty hack that make car dock "works"... When I say "works" : audio stream works, but one sound at a time (if you are on a phone call and a sound from phone is generated, the phone call is "muted" until sound from phone end), and finally you can't reboot the phone on the car dock or it crash.

I don't know how I can help epinter and dhacker to fix this issue, tell me how :)

Currently I'm back on stock ROM as I can't use my phone without car dock + bluetooth.

I have a nandroid backup of the 31/07 dhacker's build to make some tests & logs if needed.

Edit : One last bug still there since the beginning of dev : LED notifications : If you boot your phone will charging the battery LED blink until you unplug the cable, and plug it again, and then, LED stay on without blinking (as it should)
[RAZR HD Android Development] india23:
XT925 7/30 build - bluetooth stereo audio working.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Skrilax_CZ:
Starting nightlies tonight, http://skrilax.droid-developers.org/cm10.2nightly/razrqcom/choose_device.php

The "differences" are same like with cm-10.1 (i.e testing some patches to be made upstream + some hacks (cardock)). At the moment:

- navbar: 4 key setup improvements, menu key in navbar will make it not to show "extra menu" key in the app

- cardock: workaround

- input: volume orientation awareness

- OTA updater

It's very early builds of cm-10.2, so I'd expect it won't build from time to time now. Also I'm fed up with the "sdcard not being the main repository" too, so I'll just probably add there some quick patch. It's just retarted to have 32 GB sdcard and games still download their data to internal memory.
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
would it be possible to check out the BT issues as well? would epinters build have something different than yours?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Skrilax_CZ:
BT streaming is still in works, there was a commit to fix them by kabaldan (and it's in some builds), but it caused audio to be erraticaly (phone would be mute on some boots), so it was withheld for now.
[RAZR HD Android Development] JBass:
Does the 31/7 build have the SuperUser fixes built in?
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
[MENTION=3721576]epinter[/MENTION] i have the daily version instead of nightly, its the same?

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[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
the same code ... the daily builds just run another time of the day ... :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I just want to clear up something about superuser and root. I may go back to edit my previous posts to reflect this so its not confusing....

When I originally flashed I did not have root..I was not using Dhackers recovery (not sure if that was it). I reflashed (fresh not dirty) using Dhackers CWM recovery and I have root out of the box. Built in superuser worked just fine. I do not know what I did wrong the first time. The only thing is I'm 99% sure I formatted /system as I wanted to ensure I did not have anything to "upgrade" when I reflashed.

So to reiterate...Root should work out of the box starting with the first nightly. It did for me the second time i flashed it. No need for secondary files.
[RAZR HD Android Development] dabanhfreak:
Root is in 10.2, but for some strange reason it's disabled by default.

Go to developer options and find "Root Access"

Quick screenshot uploaded. I just reinstalled by apps from Titanium :)

Have fun with 4.3 :D

EDIT: Having another look, it seems this is a 10.2 bug. So, when you switch it to Apps & ADB, check that it works, then go back and set it to Apps again :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
I am using oudhs recovery and su its not working.... Will try dhackers recovery

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Another thing.... Where is that recovery

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[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/cm/xt926-cwm-6.0.3.3-recovery.img
[RAZR HD Android Development] JBass:
What changed in the Recovery that would make ROMs have functional su access?
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Just wondering, what's the functional status of this one? I'm out in the field or I'd flash myself. Calls,lte, etc all working now?

sent from my xt926 RAZR maxx hd
[RAZR HD Android Development] krazyace35:
Just flash this http://db.tt/YD1itXEK its Chainfires su root update for 4.3. Flash Rom gapps then UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip with CWM or TWRP and your good to go ;)
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
Is it touch recovery?

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[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
No.

To answer another question from another poster I never said this recovery fixed anything...I just said it's the only thing I did different then it worked.
[RAZR HD Android Development] dano1282:
wifi refused to turn on for me.. DHackers version XT926 Not sure why... going to back to ElementalX for the moment.. will try Epinters later
[RAZR HD Android Development] CesarRamina:
Try this (rooted on):

Turn Off Wi-Fi.

Use Root Explorer or any other app with root access.

Go to /data/misc/dhcp/

Delete all files on this directory.

Now you try connect Wi-Fi.

WIFI will work normally again.
[RAZR HD Android Development] animez:
While I can't say I'm a big fan of nightly builds either, development for CM10.2/4.3 is really still in the very early stages. Last time I looked on the official CM site there were no release candidate, milestone or stable builds listed. If you chose to flash a nightly build based on CM10.2 right now it's going to be buggy. That's the main reason I'm running a 4.2 AOSP right now.

No one should take this as an attack, just laying it out the way I see it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
Anybody try the official 8/26 build to see if the low volume and wakelock lag are fixed? I'm dl'ing now.

Update: Agree with camcrobe, the bugs are still present.
[RAZR HD Android Development] camcrobe:
Yes. Both issues still present in latest official (8/26)
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
I'm hoping the 4.3.1 update that Google just pushed get put into 10.2 soon.. I read it fixes the keyboard freeze **** I've been seeing and I know that's not directly rom related as a stock n4 does the same.
[RAZR HD Android Development] killrhythm09:
Do you actually understand what a nightly build is supposed to be? Most software projects that issue nightlies only verify that they pass some basic tests to make sure they build at all. There is no guarantee of stability beyond that. I'm really not sure what you expect.

Based on your posts I would say you have no business using anything other than stock.

Honestly, I agree with the other guy who said your tone is pretty disrespectful to people who spend a lot of time working on something without getting anything in return.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Megaroad:
You're the one being rude here with your "do you actually understand..." and "you have no business..."

I'll repeat myself once again. I'm not saying "do nightlies differently." I'm saying stop doing nightlies because it's an inappropriate method for this device.

And spare me the "don't critique the process of people who spend a lot of time without getting anything in return..." It's a message board where people go to discuss this hobby.

Have you noticed traffic has slowed a lot in these threads? There's a reason for that.

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IMO, while the switch the Razr HD devs made to CM10.2 makes perfect sense in terms of pursuing their hobby and learning about stuff, it was unfortunate for the non-dev people who want flash stable stuff on their phones, since the devs were already having a tough enough time ironing out the kinks in CM10.1 for this device and had invested months of work in it. Switching to a version that isn't stable across any devices at this time will just make it harder. Understandable why they wanted to do it though.
[RAZR HD Android Development] robobub:
You do realize that without a dedicated testing team, public nightlies is how testing and ironing out kinks is done, right?

Hopefully users are taught how to give better feedback and logcats, but the devs are taking a step in the right direction with this:

https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-team/android_kernel_motorola_msm8960-common/issues?state=open

I agree.

At the same time, I'd like to reiterate the fact that we're lucky a dedicated group of developers volunteer their time for this family of devices. There is always an onslaught of negative feedback, of which a substantial portion is due to not not doing the necessary wiping.

They've only recently been accepted into cyanogenmod officially. It was a hard goal and they made it. It's not hard to forsee them setting up a next goal as a snapshot or release candidate.
[RAZR HD Android Development] LifeInTheGrey:
Seriously guys, there's no need to be so selfish. If you do this in your free time for no money, then at least do the reasonable thing and built what I want. No one other than anyone that has posted on this forum want to you continue with Android 4.3. Just give me a stable version of 2.3.4 and let me surf on IE6 in peace.

Razr MAXX HD | XenonHD 8.6 | arrrghhh's 8.14 kernel
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Come on guys this isn't a thread for bickering. The various points have been made on both sides and neither of you will change each others view points...this is the internet you wont win an argument :) What you will do successfully is clutter up this thread even more. :/
[RAZR HD Android Development] Megaroad:
This snide, sarcastic little fellow missed the part where I said it makes perfect sense in terms of pursuing their hobby for them to switch to 10.2 work.

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Our thanks have been reiterated hundreds of times throughout the CM threads. It's fine to express an opinion now and then without prefacing it with effusive praise.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Honestly I think that once a "stable" monthly, rc, etc. is released, there will be no more complaining. The real issue is that non-crack flashers (i.e. people who want a custom rom on their phone, but aren't willing to have major issues) don't have that rock to sit on while real crack flashers enjoy the nightlies. For some people, it's all in the name. You could rename the best nightly from the past month as "stable," and certain people will be happy. Get that release out, and this thread will be full of what it should be full of (bug reports without the complaining).
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Low volume bug fix was merged :D I would imagine it will be in the 8/27 build. Great work [MENTION=3721576]epinter[/MENTION]

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/49113/
[RAZR HD Android Development] SnakeHaveYou:
Sorry, mods!!! This thread needs a clean up! I saw this on the i9300 forums.. Finaly, the OP decided to close the i9300 CM10.1 thread..

And PLEASE! This thread needs to be on RAZR HD

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[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
looking forward to it. thanks for working that out epinter!

looks like the new quick settings ribbon is in the newest nightlies too!
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
Now have to wait for better battery life

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[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
I try to keep a link to a "stable" version here:

http://www.linuxmobile.org/razrhd/cm10-2
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
you feel that all the way back to 8/8 is the last stable build?
[RAZR HD Android Development] madmonkey57:
Agree

I'd like to think that you are right but I'm afraid it won't be the case.

This thread in essence is generic and therefore likely to call for everything and anything related to the ROM.

Wouldn't bug reporting be more efficient in a... bug tracking system?

Anyway, just my $0.02.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
The build from 08/08 don't have hw decoder bug, and as far as I remember don't have volume bugs or freezes.

I think the audio fixes will be included in the next official nightly.
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
What about battery life on that daily?

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[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
We made no battery related changes.

My battery life at this moment:
[RAZR HD Android Development] Tinchoska:
You have a xt925? And last one. You are using the daily from 8?

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[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
i didnt realize that there was hw decoder bug. how do you manage that battery life though? waht kind of screen on time do you have? and it appears that GPS is off?
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
"carregando" is Portuguese for Charge. He charged it up a bit to get that time :)
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
No, I connected for some minutes to test the volume fix.... :p
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
I always use auto-brightness, gps on, bt on, network 3g-only, wifi on, google now disabled, location history and report disabled, wifi policy "when connected", wifi optimization off.

I'm running build from 08-26. The hw decoder bug existed for some days, we don't have this bug anymore.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bradleyem:
I just installed 8-26 xt926. Video works fine for me. Call volume is still low (has the fix not been implemented yet?). WiFi signal indicator is grey but WiFi works. Cellular signal indicator is grey, LTE indicator works. Phone doesn't seem to be getting hot, too soon to report battery life.

Thanks for your hard work Emerson and the rest of the dev team.
[RAZR HD Android Development] radzer0:
I picked up my droid maxx today. Hopefully I get a root soon. Its alot faster than the HD ever was with the x8 processor setup. Still waiting on a full charge to see how the battery life is but so far it looks alot better.

And no more keyboard hangs like i have been having.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bradleyem:
OK, new trick on 8-26...

Google Chrome now causes a reboot. It seems to be location related. It happened on Google.com initially (location was already enabled for Google.com). I tried going to settings > apps > chrome > clear data...no change. Then I went to yahoo.com and the page loaded fine. It came up with the "yahoo.com wants to know your location" as soon as I click 'yes'...reboot. I also tried clearing cache and dalvik cache. No change.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
Last build has low volume fixes (looked the cm-10.2-20130828-NIGHTLY-xt925.zip)
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
I'm on it now. It seems like my call b volume is fixed at a louder volume. Which is more or less ok since i can hear my phone calls again.

Thanks for the hard work!
[RAZR HD Android Development] bradleyem:
Just installed 08-28 XT926

Still have the reboot issue when chrome tries to access location. Desktop clock also cannot find location for weather. Maps shows location and home screen shows the correct location for weather.

I tried to download a GPS test app from the play store, but now the play store is showing "no connection"...
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I hate to report this but its not working on the XT926 build. I just tried it with a fresh clean install to the latest 28th nightly to test. Volume seems louder but I am not able to change the volume level up or down with any effect.

Maybe it wasnt merged in the 28th build and it will be on tomorrows?
[RAZR HD Android Development] LunaticSerenade:
Does this still have excessive system usage?

Sent from my CM 10.2 XT926
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
https://github.com/razrqcom-dev-team/android_device_motorola_msm8960-common/issues?state=open
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
Yes. It seems to be a 4.3 issue.

Thanks for working on this!
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
What in CM 10.2 changed that broke this though? It was something in the past couple weeks that did this.
[RAZR HD Android Development] epinter:
I don't know... Something changed and broke the volume, the volume control can be a consequence of the change we had to make to increase the volume.

EDIT: can be something in audio-caf repo (was completely changed), can be something in frameworks, kernel ...
[RAZR HD Android Development] freebird_78:
So to add to this audio problem.... This latest build does have one strange issue. The mic is SUPER boosted, to the point where you get feedback. Only solution is to hold your finger over the mic.
[RAZR HD Android Development] skeevydude:
Managed to come up with a fix for the proximity sensor issue. Detailed here & here. Flashable zip here. Tested on the Atrix HD, but should work for ya'll as well.
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
Fyi, rc1 build has been released for both 925/6 on get.cm.
[RAZR HD Android Development] trebills:
Does that mean phone volume fixed?
[RAZR HD Android Development] stefilini:
It probably is because its cm10.1
[RAZR HD Android Development] koftheworld:
You're right.sorry for the confusion.
[RAZR HD Android Development] RayLovesick:
Anyone else have an issue where your screen won't turn back on? Doesn't happen too often (once a day or so), but it does require a hard reset. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason why it happens.

Also, I've noticed that sometimes WiFi AP, after having been used once or twice, won't turn back on. Though, I've seen that happen on stock as well so that may not be an issue with this build. Reboot fixes it.
[RAZR HD Android Development] skeevydude:
Only had the screen issue during calls (proximity sensor)....if that's the case for you see a few posts up for a fix.

Haven't used WiFi AP, but turning Airplane Mode on then off has fixed WiFi not wanting to work for me.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
I'm having same issues as others like, no control of on-call volume and echo on speakerphone. My battery life is terrible now. In 5 hours I'm down to 36%. I used to easily get 20 hours and now I'm lucky to get 9. Android system and display are killing my battery.
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
Since CM 10.2 is constantly changing and things breaking *not blaming the devs...they dont control the base code from CM* i went back to CM 10.1 for a while.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
Your signature says on your xt926 that you're on CM 10.2. Is that incorrect?
[RAZR HD Android Development] scoobaspeaz:
I have not changed the signature but yes I'm on 10.1 using an XT926.
[RAZR HD Android Development] daptronic:
Won't boot more than once

I've installed this ROM 4 times now, following the instructions in the first thread to the letter, and even doing a full factory reset.

Each and every time, the ROM boots once, and then never again. Every subsequent restart just hangs and never even gets to the CM boot animation.
[RAZR HD Android Development] bigbarrel:
Sounds like you're either not rooted or your boot loader is not unlocked or both.
[RAZR HD Android Development] idless:
It might also be a problem with partitions. I had some problems with second boot taking very long. Found out it was because of some portion formation. Try wait for a while 10min or more maybe. Also/then check the size of the data partition in backup in twrp (or cwm I guess). My data portion was like 32gb or maybe 320gb something insane like that.
[RAZR HD Android Development] daptronic:
I came from cm 10.1, and I was definitely rooted, and my bootloader is definitely unlocked, since I get the warning every time I start up which says that it is.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
lol, you cant even install CM 10.2 without unlocking..

And you def dont need root as long as you flash recovery afaik

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btw, im running 20130817 build and i got great battery life:

I guess thats good..? considering i got 7h screen on time...

EDIT: This is the XT925, NON-maxx
[RAZR HD Android Development] steveo17:
how the hell do you manage to get that kind of battery life?! mine has been absolutely terrible!
[RAZR HD Android Development] animez:
Yeah, I've had the same thing happen every time I have tried to flash a 10.2 rom. Tried 3 different roms from 3 different devs. That's why I'm on Slimbean right now.
[RAZR HD Android Development] hugodefcon:
Are you using a maxx hd?

Or just hd?

People should specify.

I wish i got that battery life on my xt925
[RAZR HD Android Development] daptronic:
I think I solved it... turns out there is no superuser app installed by default. I installed a superuser apk, and now I can reboot. Yay.
[RAZR HD Android Development] amedeh123:
its the xt925. NON-maxx battery

did not realize this kind of life was so great
[RAZR HD Android Development] hugodefcon:
How did you achieve this battery life?

Im getting terrible battery life.

Just look. Only 9 hours. :(

I don't know what I'm don't wrong. -__-
[RAZR HD Android Development] LunaticSerenade:
There is a part in the 1 day + screenshot where the battery level climbs. So that's how he gets that.

Sent from my CM 10.2 XT926
[RAZR HD Android Development] hugodefcon:
Oh yeah didnt noticed. But still i charge it and still dont get anywhere near that battery life.