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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] snake2332:
Sure am glad I knew better than to install the update that was waiting for me when I got my S4 a few weeks ago. My caution was completely based on the fact that Verizon hates people like us, not based on any actual knowledge of the evil patch. Phew! I would have returned the S4 then waited for tomorrow and gotten the HTC One, although I envision BigRed forcing HTC to come up with a new, more secure S-OFF to "preserve user experience". Blech! Sounds like a phrase taken directly from Apple.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] resurektz:
Im going back to best buy to return my phone just to get an mdk one
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
The bounty thread mentioned SafeStrap. Rather than continue off topic stuff there, I'll just leave this thought. SS would allow flashing roms and that's awesome. But if a kexec kernel could be made, you could get 4.3 roms, too and in theory when KLP is release for that, as well. It's not as awesome as having a full recovery or better yet unlocked bootloader, but, it's better than no roms at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] resurektz:
Thats what I was thinking. At least we would have roms until they figured out a full recovery or unlocked bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
Yup. With root you should at least have this option available soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
Im sure that this would act the same as goo or rom manager but what sbout this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=26200755

Ill provide the recovery fills in this post in a minute (at work).

I used this all the time on my s2 t989 to update and switch between recoveries.

At this point anything is wreath trying

I was gonna root this weekend and try it but figure id through it out there
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] asharad:
I've been considering buying an S4. Is this phone still worth the money with a locked boot loader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] elliwigy:
Im tired of this lol. what is the vest thing to say/do to exchange my phone for another that is not updated?.. i purchased saturday so well within 14days as well as have my receipt.. i updated in store before i came to xda lol.. would simply telling them its screwed up since i updated one n dont want one with the update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
Blame it on the stock recovery.

When you boot into stock recovery and wipe cashe partitions you get an error
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] elliwigy:
so just wipe cache partitions and return it? whats best way to soft brick the phone lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
It does it on my wife's and mine im taking it back tomorrow or Friday.

Look up more info on this but from what I read in the t989 t mobile gs2 Hercules section to soft brick a device: flash a rom made for a different one but wet the same (hope you get what I mean). Example flash a sprint s4 rom without a kernel. Recovery and kernels mixed with stupidity is what hard bricks ur device.

I don't really advise doing it cuz I dont know if this phone is as die hard as the t989 is.

Ill keep u post on my exchange
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
I think I read somewhere there was a leaked version of Android 4.3. Could this be used to manipulate our phones? We cant go backwards with software but what about forward to find an exploit? Now that I think about it though the factory images (MDK and MD7) wouldnt work on 4.3 anyway. :-/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] elliwigy:
simple.. i uninstslled everything i could then disabled everything i could and told them that the update made all my apps dissapear haha.. worked like a charm.. got new replacement and rooted with twrp on slim bean but switchin to hyperdrive lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] knights665:
Thank god my home button is sticking now I have an excuse to get my replacement should be here by Monday:D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
Nice!!! Didn't think of that
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jmgib:
Love all the dishonesty that goes on. People just need to own up to their choices and learn to live with their consequences.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tool Belt:
$0.99 is a DEAL!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Things are starting to get real now, big thanks to Hash!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
Hey Hash, wouldn't it make sense, at least initially, to have some Dev Edition users beta test SS? That way if something goes wrong, there's a likelihood that they can recover easier. Just a thought.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
HC, your Safestrap resurrected my old Bionic and hopefully will do the same for the S4 at a much earlier stage. IMO you should take the bounty and release SS on playstore. You would deserve it for all of your hard work and insight. I for one would love a SS solution, to prevent the chance of bricking and allow the freedom to safely experiment with new builds. Also, my S4 needs to be encoded and current TWRP does not support encryption. I am hopeful that SS can be the solution. It certainly was for my old Bionic. I hope your efforts are successful and would gladly volenteer to test on my encrypted and rooted S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
Hold up.... can you dual boot with SS??? I NEED that! Tired of restoring nandroids back and forth and stuff getting messed up
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
No. You can MULTI-boot with SS. Set up as many rom slots as you have space. ;) :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dooperman:
I'm gonna need a bigger sd card :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ssick92:
Thanks HC! I would gladly pay $.99 to get off this stock ROM mainly so I don't have to see that chronic WiFi alert...

Keep up the great work!

PS: Don't want to be THAT guy but is there any sort of timeline before SS should be stable enough to use for most people?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jayrod76:
SS is an awesome thing. I have been hoping for something like it on my S4..got spoiled with it on my Bionic and RAZR

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
Normally I would say "don't ask for ETA for free stuff" but if this is a donate/pay thing, then is it ok to ask for an ETA?

How can we use SS if we were lucky enough not to get the S4 with Loki patched?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zodder:
You bet your ass I'd pay .99. Tell me to pay $5 and I'll gladly do that too! You're doing work that I can't even comprehend, let alone try to do haha. Thank you!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
I believe, but could be wrong so someone can correct me on this, it uses internal memory not the SDCARD.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
I fully agree with that. Any way to set up the play store to do donations with a $0.99 minimum :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Do different rom slots use the samd data partitions or are they all seperate?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/how-to-safestrap/

Everyone wondering the specifics of SS should read through that. It should answer most questions.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kaos2569:
I'm lucky enough to be rooted and ROM'ed on MDK still. But I would buy SS in the Play store in a heartbeat, whatever the cost, just for all the hard work that's gone into to all this.

Donate, pay for an app (BTW, I'm sure more people than not would pay $5+ for this), whatever it is, I'm more than happy to chip in for Hashcode to get some well deserved $$$ if it happens to make everyone able to run whatever ROM they want.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blitz_7:
I think this would be a great idea if possible. I am due an upgrade in October so I've been watching this thread closely.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jessescfan:
Make the Play Store .99 and put a free copy on your website

Hey Hash, you could always put this up for $0.99 on the Play Store then put a free copy on your website (if you have a site). I've seen that before many times. The Play Store could be a way for this thankful audience to make a easy donation to your cause. Thanks for the hard work. We all appreciate it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bloodcrav:
Still on MDK but ill pay .99 regardless. Hash made life great with my Razr. Its the least I can do as a thank you for that, and the stuck ME7 users.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] magicalwilly:
Wow thanks doge I am such excite now!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Erievon:
The Bounty had two sections, Root+Recovery, and full on bootloader unlock. Safestrap installs TWRP, I'd say if he gets it going Hash deserves every penny of the recovery pledges.

I still don't see this bootloader getting fully unlocked. Hash, take the money and go on vacation. And THEN put it in the Playstore for $5. I had it on my Bionic, and it would be worth every penny.

As for Devs pushing MDK owners this way, I don't really think it'd be necessary. Some Devs may migrate towards ME7 stock kernel Roms, but an MDK owner would just have to make sure they're on an ME7 compatible kernal and all should be well if they wanted to run those roms. The bonus would be MDK owners could also run custom kernels if they so choose. And if Hash gets Kexec enabled on it...even better.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] meowenf:
Id totally pay 99¢ :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
does ss use a single data partion across roms? so we dont have to copy data over EVERY time?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brycekerr:
I could care less about the stipulations of the bounty... We will technically have root and a recovery (yes I know no kernel yadda yadda). Honestly if people want to have freedom on their device they should be willing to pony up more than .99... and I'm sure Google takes a portion of that anyways. Make that bad boy at least 4.99 and I'll still pony up again for the boot loader unlock should anybody discover an exploit.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
I'm pretty sure each slot has its own data partition. Otherwise incompatible roms would corrupt it when you switch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Is there any way you can implement it for the at&t MF3 baseband? Or will it work also like the vzw me7?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshuadjohnson22:
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] And AT&T S4 Active :fingers-crossed:

They should be similar just need different display drivers
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
Except there is no money to give, just promises. In addition, root+recovery implied custom kernel support like Loki, something that may or not be possible with safestrap on the S4 depending on kexec. It would b hard to tell some people to fulfill there pledges when it only fulfills some of the implied requirements.

Regardless, I fully support a play store option. The only issue being the play store will only let me buy it once.

Let's just agree to stop talking about bounties altogether. Hashcode seems to prefer a play store option, so let's agree to stop beating this dead bounty horse.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
But, this is the bounty discussion thread...... says so in the title.....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thestinkinggenius:
He's got a point:good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cgdoc519:
Count me in for the .99 play store option!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] UK_Wildcats_Fans:
Seconded Good Point

Seconded
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
Here I hope this explains all your questions

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] desantim:
Third'd'd and I'd even pay more. There are a lot less useful and important apps I've bought for much more.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
Hashcode doesn't care about the bounty guys. He's told me himself just a minute ago after I told him he should get it.

What I propose is that everyone chips in to buy him a S4. That way he can help out with debugging and what not. Also i think that he should do the playstore version as well.

Do you all think that is fair?

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
Doesn't sound like a bad idea, and it would help our interests out quite a bit as well!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
That he does.... Haha. What I should have said is "in relation to hashcode and safestrap."

But I'll admit that was a stupid thing to say without being specific :)

Then again the title does say BOOTLOADER bounty thread.... And safestrap has nothing to do with the boot loader so HA! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ryno77:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
I understood you were just referencing the talk about Hash and the Bounty :) I don't know why they didn't

Oh and having a splash screen that allows you to boot into custom recovery ("Safe"Strap) everytime might not have much to do with the bootloader. But it definitely saves you from every form of softbrick that would happen without it. Bootloops etc... That's why stock twrp and cwm don't really work with a locked bootloader even if they make a version that installs after the recovery partition

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
Cool. I don't really know much about safestrap. Although it seems from what I've read the roms and data will be stored on userdata? Not sure. regardleaa, would there anyway we can use some of that massive beheamoth of system partition Samsung blessed us with? Right now I have about 1.7GB free in system :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thestinkinggenius:
I knew what you meant, I was just bustin' your hump!:p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
What about those without income and no way to chip in..?

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
Just throwing out ideas at this point, but if you got a several hundred dollar cell phone on a 100+- dollar a month cell plan, pitching in a couple bucks isn't all that unreasonable no?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
I don't pay my plan. My parents do, and I have no income.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
I understand that, but with all the people interested in this, we would be talking a very low per person investment, like a dollar could even be a likely contribution. Plus i'm sure there would be some of us going in a bit higher, so overall I wouldn't worry, i'm sure you would get taken care of regardless.

And that's even if it went that way, we shall see what Mr. HashCode decides.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
So true hollovoid. Michael as always stuff like this is donation based so you donate what you can. To some people $100 is nothing to them. To others $5 is a lot so just donate what you can. I'll donate $20 in your name if that makes you feel better :) but you'll have to come up with the $1 for the app

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
That'd be great.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bajasur:
I think this is pretty straightforward that [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] deserves this...

In my opinion he deserves the root/recovery bounty that openyoureyes started... it is just under 4 grand and hash's safestrap meets the criteria..

The full unlock is over 5gs. Only seems fair to me... whether he does it for the money or not
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twizzlejr:
Yes I definitely agree with you
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshuadjohnson22:
Will he work with us At&t S4 Active users? The processor is the same we just need drivers for the lcd, we have around 700 in bounty and would toss it his way or to help buy whatever phone he wants.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
Here's the donation link to Hashcode's PayPal. I got it off his website. We can start funding his new S4... RIGHT NOW!

https://mobile.paypal.com/us/cgi-bi...seraction=commit&token=EC-4M358571U2657603W#m

««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Do you know if he can implement it for the AT&T mf3 baseband? And galaxy active? I know there will be a lot of people including myself that will donate for y'all 's hard work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] musicfreak190:
Hey guys so with SS, will we be able to flash custom kernels?...

Also what is needed for DEV's to start making ME5 custom kernels?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Nope. Only if kexec works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cgdoc519:
Thank you obsidian. I will do the play store option as well as donate towards getting him a gs4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] meowenf:
How far are we?

Do we have an idea on how close he really is to having SS ready for the public? I would think a while? Sorry I'm impatient... I know these things take time :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
If I were him, I'd have a $5 donate version, and a free version. So people like that high school kid that has no money can get it.

Some examples of this are the Team Blackout updater and Triangle Away. I paid for both of them after I already had the free version. I understand he's not in it for the profit, but if he succeeds, he does deserve a reward from those willing and able.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
+1, maybe it could be something like the paid version having more ROM slots then the free.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
actually i think if he doesnt want the bounty which is 4k or more money should be taken from that and buy him a s4 at least and we all should still send him something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
Be patient my friends. This is from this afternoon. He was wrapping some stuff up with the Razr and then he was going to get into it. So the process has just started but luckily there is one Moto device with a Qualcomm chip as well. That'll help speed things along.

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I can't speak for him directly but I wouldn't doubt it. As long as the vzw S4 goes smoothly and they are similar. I am not sure if he's ever work on non VZW devices before but I'll ask when I can. I'm trying to give the guy some breathing room.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Yeah, ditto that Obsedian.

He's doing his best for the community! We can all be patient, its the least we can do right now. So are we all donating to his PayPal for an S4 fund?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
At this point we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, so I say we just let Hashcode do his thing. We'll see the fruits of his labor soon enough. The best way to possibly speed the process and definitely say thank you will be to donate to him (see my post with his url a couple pages back).

««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ijustdontcare:
Just put 5$ on it!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashcode:
Hi guys,

I don't have any problem doing a free version and say a $5 donate version on the play store. Everyone should have the option of using Safestrap.

Also, I highly recommend everyone hold off on any donations until you see the end result and you're happy with it.. Any dev who asks for money upfront is up to something and/or out to mislead users.

If you should choose to send me a donation directly please mention S4 work somewhere and I'll know to ear mark it for the purchase of a dev device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jayrod76:
Thank you for taking the time to look into this for those who are stuck with stock! I'm sure that whatever magic that you get going will be very appreciated! Without you and Dhacker..the OMAP devices would not have been able to enjoy ROMs and a small taste of what the unlocked folks had!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION], I think anyone who is donating through your PayPal link is doing it to fund your S4 device. Additionally many of us will also "pay" for SafeStrap.

Thanks for sharing your talents with us!

««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
Your sig should say "surreal flasher"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
Bwahahaha. I like it!

««I used to be a Serial Flasher...now I'm just a Cereal Flasher.»»
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
This is what makes you one of the great leaders in our community. Thank you for the work you do and the service you provide. And for your incredible giving attitude. We can all learn from you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jayrod76:
^This!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
I'm with you Sam. You know all I had to say to him was the "S4 is a mess right now" and a day later " the S4 community is panicking" and he just asked for a boot image the first day and started working on it the second. That truly says something about someone's character.

If there were more people like Hash around this community would be a much better place

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
Amen to that. It's what I aspire for in the limited service I try to provide.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian...:
Me too brother. Beanstown106 happen to mention the S4 being locked when we were talking about the Note 3 possibly having a Qualcomm processor like the S4. That's the whole reason I checked in here. We just need to keep looking out for each other. Even if we ended up on different devices :(

I think our community got so close because of all the problems we had lol

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twizzlejr:
Hey man any word on the other rom devs working to provide us with stock kernels on their roms for us to be able to flash
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] busta6975:
Would this work for us thats rooted on mdk?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anthony92170:
i would think not since its for me7 also if your rooted why would you use this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] snarlytaz:
Hash and SS helped me survive with my awful Droid3 all the way up to the launch of this S4 in my hands now.

And I absolutely loved the dual boot to keep stock handy when I would screw up my own ROM tweaking once Dev support moved on.

I will take SS anytime except if I understand correctly without kexec I won't yet?

I am fortunate to still have Loki MDK running rooted ME7 roms and ME7 baseband. Baseband improved my call reception.

I survived and avoided the update by researching here first and immediately found Openyoureyes unfortunate loss to recover from the update.

I will be so tempted to go with SS, and will donate if it is successful (because I enjoyed it on the D3 so much), but I suspect the answer may be keep Loki for my ability to run custom kernels. But I so like dual boot versus nand backup/restores when checking out all the great rom updates.

Glad to see Hash working it though. Who knows when it may be necessary later.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SamuriHL:
Yes as long as the mdk kernel works with what you'll be flashing... At least until a kexec method is hopefully created.

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The ability to quickly switch between roms? Plenty of people love that option.