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[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
Just got done talking to Amazon and discovered that I'm still in the window to be able to return the OUYA and get a full refund, so I'm taking that opportunity rather than continue to hope that the OUYA team will decide to deliver on the open console they promised.

After seeing how others have been treated and being ignored myself, I simply have no faith in their ability to deliver. Instead I see only more of the same, and instead of problems being fixed I see OUYA choosing to release version 2.0. If they'd screw over the kick-start backers, why wouldn't they screw over us too? The lack of communication, lack of transparency, lack of honesty make me think the OUYA have no future going forward and no vision beyond chasing the next customer at the expense of current ones.

Why would I stick around? To throw more good money after bad? Even if the community manages to paper around most of the issues plaguing the console, it will be at the expense of the console functionality--being able to just buy a game and play it, instead everything will eventually be through the Google Play Store (in which case what is the point of buying OUYA games?) or there will be all sorts of alternative stores trying to deliver OUYA Discovery store games without the OUYA team's blessings and that will only work for so long before it gets categorized as piracy...

What future is there here?

And please don't say XBMC, because one of the reasons I'm throwing in the towel is because I am unable to get my USB drive with all my videos recognized on the OUYA. That being the case, it's not even good to me as a Media Center device. Not when there are much better supported options available that I don't have to hack to make work all the time.

Emulation you say? What good is emulation with such a small internal disk and no real ability to expand the storage?

No, I'm done. But I'm wondering who else is thinking about walking away and returning their OUYA for a refund, and what are they planning on getting as an alternative?
[Ouya General] Rirere:
I for one am planning on using my OUYA as a paperweight. ;) It looks quite good.

In all seriousness, I bought this never intending to bother with stock firmware, so when I get back to school I'll toss CM10.1 on it and use it to complement an ailing Logitech Revue. As a kickstarter backer though, I can't exactly return my unit, and I don't know that I'd feel good about selling it to anyone. Neat idea, awful execution on the software side.
[Ouya General] RED ZMAN:
That's a rather long post to tell us you just don't like your unit. Mine works fine. No problems with XBMC either. Playing across from my 4 terabyte home server with no issues.

BAXY Launcher as a replacement, live wallpapers, music and more. Kind of funny that you're returning yours because software that hasn't been released officially for it yet doesn't work right. That doesn't sound funny to you?

Blasted from my Samsung Galaxy SIII (CM10.1 Masta Mix).
[Ouya General] player911:
If it did work, don't you think it might have just broke in the last update. They wouldn't include a USB port if they didn't want everyone to use USB HDDs. It broke, but they'll fix it. Can't see returning it because of one update bug.

Sent from Nexus 7 FHD from XDA Premium HD
[Ouya General] LegionTHEFecalExcretion:
I'm rocking the hell out of my OUYA, with the Play store installed, sdcard enabled, and controller support becoming the norm I plan to be playing mine for a loooong time. It's a much more elegant solution than a phone or tablet with hdmi out. Yeah the OUYA store has a crappy selection, but that is about the only knock against it I have. Your loss man.
[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
It's not just one update bug--before this to get it to work took a lot of jumping through hoops. And who says they'll get to fixing it in a reasonable time frame? Look how long it took for them to fix the overscan bug, people were waiting three or four months with an OUYA that couldn't play most games.

Maybe if I'd at least gotten a response or a promise that they were working on it, I might stay, but the silence from OUYA has been very telling. Amazon already refunded my debit card, so I don't think I have a choice at this point, even if I found out there was an update this afternoon that fixed everything.

Tapatalk steals from their customers by forcing them to view ads in a paid app! - - sent from my MIRAGE KANG running Nook Color
[Ouya General] RED ZMAN:
The stock launcher is horrible. I didn't think it was bad until I tried out BAXY, now I know it is utter crap. The BAXY developers have made a better launcher in 2 weeks than OUYA did in a year.

Thats already what it is. It is both.

Who said you didn't like it? Let's see... *Reviews thread* Oh, I did. You returned it because something went buggy for you in an update that took place exactly one week ago. ONE WEEK. Hell, Sony borks an update on the PS3 a few times a year, and the latest one took what, 3 weeks for them to patch? I wonder how many PS3 owners returned their POS3's during that time period...

No, it doesn't sound like someone that didn't like their OUYA, it sounds like someone that is unrealistic and doesn't understand how dynamic the firmware and software is these days. In your opinion, they should have just seen there is a problem, clicked "FIX USB BUGS" on their SDK interface, and sent out an immediate update.

Right?

Yay?

Strawman argument? What is this, 1856? I didn't say anything sounded funny either. I reviewed the Amazon page for the OUYA, and yes, it says...

Need more storage? No problem. Just plug in an external hard drive into the USB 2.0 port.

So I agree, that would be basic functionality since it was listed to be a feature on the device. Did they screw it up? It looks like for some, yes, they did. Do you want a quick fix that borks something else or do you want them to fix it right, along with some other things, and submit an update once a week instead of once every day or two?

Oh, and don't pretend that "Amazon has listed as my reason for return 'Defective' hardware". You listed it as that for your reason of return, I've returned enough to Amazon to know how it works. Even that reason would be wrong. Your hardware is fine, the software has a defect. For now.

I guess I should return mine too since my USB mouse/keyboard combo keeps logging on as controller one. Amazon will list this as "damaged in shipping"
[Ouya General] sasamifan:
I think most of the problem with not having root, which is the root of a lot of problems, is that the device is being made for more than the members on this forum and other developer communities.

The device needs to be user friendly to some degree. If they start making root a standard, than those who don't know otherwise will start bricking their consoles left, right and center
[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
All OUYA would have had to do was made it accessible via easter egg, similar to how developer options are enabled now on most roms by tapping the build number. They could even have paid homage by making it be the Konami code that unlocked things.

It's not *that* hard and is what they promised.

Most of the user friendly issues could be resolved by having a working recovery that allowed backups to be created before messing with the system. Something like CWM....
[Ouya General] Rirere:
There's no accounting for taste. I'm glad it worked for you-- for me, it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience (probably made worse by the physical arrangement of the OUYA buttons on the controller, which for me are simply confusing). It just looked and felt very tacky to me, and seeing how paltry the native settings menus were before the system rolled over and coughed up the Android native Settings app made me feel like I was running someone's first theme.

For a storefront that ostensibly wants to highlight breakout titles as well as expose others, I found the display to be a fairly uninteresting grid that made it hard to see any given titles as standout. In their defense though, I was never really interested in the stock OUYA firmware.

Ditto.

More or less yes, and if I could do it again I would definitely have opted for a different solution (probably one of the upgraded Google TV sets). Although I probably will enjoy messing with the OUYA later (not having a good TV at home makes this hard), I must confess that my interest in messing around with ROMs has been fading fast over the last few months (more or less coinciding with swapping out my Galaxy Nexus for a HTC One). I still primarily own and use Nexus to tinker, but for the TV? I kind of want to be a bit lazier there.

Anyway, as for what you were saying earlier, I doubt the bugs are out of deliberate malice but unintentional/unconscious priority bias. They're out to make money first over encouraging a dev community, which is understandable, but it means that any fixes and resources aren't going to go where we'd like. OUYA has had a sort of Jekyll/Hyde thing going for a while now-- is it a consumer product? A dev box? Both? It's harder than I think they realized to be both.
[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
In the end I just couldn't do it. Subconsciously I guess I really didn't want to return my OUYA because I kept checking to see if there'd been any updates and putting off the return. It didn't help that I had to work overtime all week and kept missing the window where the drop off for UPS is. I finally got a hold of Amazon and cancelled the refund.

Nothing has changed, all of the issues I mentioned before still exist, but I just can't let go. If---a big gamble as far as I'm concerned---but IF the OUYA team do manage to pull themselves up from the tailspin they're currently in and fix the system so it'll do all that they promised us from the beginning, the OUYA has the potential to rule the family room. The truth is nothing else seems to be aiming for the same heights that the OUYA is. There are so many things they have right that it just frustrates me all the more when something doesn't work right.

And most of these things they keep getting wrong are things that are easily fixable! I think someone in the thread said that the launcher baxxy was banged out in two days? I see a fix for the USB problem was posted almost immediately on the OUYA developer forums in June. An app has been developed and posted that allows a one click root via a big button, just like we were promised... Like I said, frustrating.

But I'm in. For as long as the OUYA works, or can be made to work. For as long as there is a community who wants to keep going forward.

I apologize to anyone who thought I came off a troll, honestly I wasn't trying to be.
[Ouya General] danbst:
Trust me if you think OUYA have made a pigs ear of software you've never had a really bad Android box. I put up with the Minix Neo X5 for 6 months before binning it. That was a truly god awful pile of crap. I've done more with the OUYA in a month than I did in 6 with the Neo. Sure, it's not perfect... but it's on the right track.
[Ouya General] m03m1x:
Would you rather he write a post saying "I dont like the ouya it isnt open and i want my money back." you know there are people who do post that way, be happy he detailed his experience.
[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
Well my first Android was a Pandigital Novel, so..... :D

Yeah, I get what you mean though. I was looking through the competition while I was unable to get to the UPS drop off point and kept thinking to myself that even with the stuff that OUYA's gotten wrong, they're still so much further ahead of the curve than anyone else! But that's why it's so frustrating to see them missing this stuff and ignoring the requests of their customers to fix things already. I really don't think it's as hard as people are pretending it to be.

--bornagainpenguin
[Ouya General] Asadullah:
Your absolutely right if you look in the lk bootloader source it's really easy to make a button to get into bootloader. Alot of the other issues would only take someone with the source code a day or less (per issue and some one who is familiar with it).
[Ouya General] bornagainpenguin:
So you see what I mean and understand why I'm so skeptical when people keep making excuses for them?

Like I said over at Ouya Forums, it's a two line edit thereabouts. If it can be done by you or I in vold.fstab as a dirty hack, there's no reason why the OUYA team with their access to the source code can't fix it properly.

The only thing I can think is malicious interference or sheer incompetence to explain their reticence in fixing things.
[Ouya General] Ultimate Chicken:
I like my Ouya, and thank goodness they sent me a retail kit instead of a preorder kit. Maybe getting it really late is a blessing in disguise.

I agree with a lot of things said in this topic RE: the makers of this box. The hardware's fine (well mine was), but their customer service support is lacking. I haven't seen this much reputation damage since XBAWKS. (not XBone, XBAWKS).

If the dev community is not happy and abandons the thing... at least the controller is salvagable. Not as good as the X360 or PS3's, but decent and better than the unusual Wiichuck, more comfortable than a bluetooth clip gamepad, no proprietary connection protocols and no MAC address hacking needed.
[Ouya General] maraca:
RED ZMAN!!!!, how make work CIFS.ko modules in ouya

i need mount NAS server in my home and add this munt at startup.

regards

Ariel
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CandissXOXO:
Hi all!

I have an unrooted Samasung Galaxy S2 running 4.0 and this morning all of my songs disappeared!

Any ideas?!

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hopper8:
Go to settings>manage apps> all apps >media storage and clear data. Reboot and wait up to 10 minutes. Don't worry, it won't delete your songs, only delete the directory it uses. Rebooting will regenerate the directory and hopefully your songs reappear :)

Sent from a galaxy far, far away
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deviantartjr:
Hi, why my droid razr maxx hd detected as droid razr hd on cpuz, antutu? Thx
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deeje00:
Because it is. It just has a different battery.

Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deviantartjr:
Oh, so no problem with that? Ok, now I'm no worry about it again, thx :)
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] emwno:
Heres TWRP for your Galaxy Tab 3 8.0, this is compatible with the SM-T310, SM-T311 and SM-T315. Giving your device the ability to flash your favourite custom ROMs, Kernels, Mods.

Downloads:

Release #3: ODIN

Changelog:

[U][I]Release #3[/I][/U]
fixed display layout

[U][I]Release #2[/I][/U]
trying to get to tablet mode...
updated res

[U][I]Release #1[/I][/U]
initial release
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Siriack:
It loads, but it's on Portrait mode. The Slider cannot be slided all the way to the right.... :confused:
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] emwno:
its in portrait? gimme a minute ill get a new version up.

EDIT: for some reason, twrp isnt detecting this device as a tablet, because the theme was specified for tablets.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Siriack:
Still in portrait mode. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] emwno:
Ok so lets do it that way. tell me which menu opens up or what happens when you do the following:

Install Menu = ?

Reboot Menu = ?

Home Key = ?

Advanced Menu = ?
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Siriack:
I'm at work right now. I'll report back this evening....
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Siriack:
Install Menu = I see the files and folders

Reboot Menu = I don't see that menu

Home Key = Nothing

Advanced Menu = Loads the Advnced "Submenu"
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] emwno:
I cant really understand what you mean, could you send me ome images?
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Siriack:
Like this?
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] abdoel_046:
Same like me to.. and opsi "swipe to comfirm flash" cannot acsess because hidden on my screen...
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] emwno:
Release #3 up. it should fix the layout issues.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] rek410:
I was having trouble with the CWM recovery on my tab 8 (resolution/control problems) but this TWRP release works perfectly. Thanks!!
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Oatswesow:
So much better! The buggyness of CWM was driving me crazy... Thank you so much!
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] hinds90:
Just rooted quick, simple, and it works great! Any roms yet? Would love if cleanrom came over.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] djjozo:
Root/recovery working on t310. Fine job!!! Tablet feels like mine now :o Thank you!!!
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] 007shark:
Question: Is miracast still working for those that have rooted? I read that the Samsung Galaxy S3s had problems with miracast after rooting.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] acca:
Hi

I successfully installed TWRP with Odin, then i want to apply the root update from recovery, i used this one :

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wjye1yssb5ksbfa/ROOT_SGT3_8.0.zip

I copy it to my sdcard then boot into recovery and select "apply update from external storage" and choosed the zip file

TWRP says "error to verify the whole file signature" during install but seems to install the content.

After reboot i installer "Super SU" from market to check if it works but Super SU tells me that Su binary is not installed.

Can anyone help me please ?

Thx
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] djjozo:
you aren't rooted! Don't select apply update.zip, choose install then navigate to the root_sgt3_8.0.zip you put on your sdcard and swipe to install:o

also you may want to uninstall superuser first to avoid any issues, the root file you flash will install it for you
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] acca:
Thanks but i don't have this option, i can only update form ADB, external storage, wipe data or cache or apply update from cache

Maybe TWRP isn't really installed ? Odin finishes with "PASS!"

When i try to boot into recovery, i first have a message saying "No command" (Aucune commande in french) and the title is "Android system recovery 3e"
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] djjozo:
Sounds like you have stock recovery still, I assumed that since you were in this twrp thread that you at least had twrp recovery installed....silly me!! If that's the case you need to start with step 1 installing a custom recovery. And you really should create a new thread over in help and trouble shooting, that is, after you read up on installing a recovery.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] acca:
I don't manage to install any recovery, i posted about my problem here :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44518207#post44518207

thanks
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] cfendrick:
FYI, I installed r#3 and TWRP shows 2.6.0.0 instead of the titled 2.5.0.0

No big deal it works fine just a different version.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] loselvis777:
Is there anyway for useing it for the sm-t210?
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] Schemerlamp:
Got my tab3 8". Rooted in 5 minutes. Gave the wife my tab2. Everybody happy
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] coolmaddy007:
Teamwin recovery through ODIN passed but still showing custom recovery

Flashed teamwin recovery r#3 on SM-T311 through ODIN and it passed. But when i go into recovery, get No Command signal and then it shows android recovery menu. Plz help.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] acca:
Hi

Check this thread
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] coolmaddy007:
Which thread??
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] acca:
Oups !

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2401815
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] coolmaddy007:
Thanks..the solution there says to flash stock firmware..

I dont want to mess up things as my Tab3 is just 2 days old..will keep searching..
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] zedaycee:
I had a similar problem. What I did that seemed to work with my tab3 was:

Flash an older kernel

TWRP and Root

Flash the new kernel (if you want to)

Seemed to work fine with my one. I'm using the Australian stock ROM which updated itself when I first turned it on. Flashing an older kernel (which is a lot smaller than having to download the whole rom) seemed to allow TWRP to run.

Unfortunately the Australian stock ROM has been crippled so I ended up switching to the German one which works without any issues at all. The USA rom played silly buggers and refused to connect with my router for some reason.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] guest_2011:
Failed install

:crying:

Mistakenly disconnected cable in the middle of running ODIN and loading TWRP. Now can access TWRP but its not completely installed and no way to root. Tried rebooting, reinstalling no luck. Get this error

<ID:0/016> Added!!

<ID:0/016> Odin v.3 engine (ID:16)..

<ID:0/016> File analysis..

<ID:0/016> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/016> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

Should i try to install CWM and will it overwrite my broken TWRP? Would installing an older version of TWRP fix it?
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] zedaycee:
I'd return to stock first then start the whole TWRP process again.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] guest_2011:
You mean do a reset? I didn't think of that. Will try. Tx.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] zedaycee:
Actually flash the stock rom via ODIN to get the tab back to its original state then try doing TWRP again.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] guest_2011:
oh :( .... its the only way to fix it? Can someone link me to the original ROM for usa if they different? Tab 3 8.0 wifi only.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] zedaycee:
Don't know if it's the only way to fix it but it should fix it. Maybe reflashing TWRP without going to stock might work but if not going to stock should fix it. You can get the rom from samsung-updates.com I think.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] zibbi3:
Links are down can someone upload them please, thanks in advance.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-T310 met Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] anielkumar:
Link Down - Plz Upload TWRP_T31x_r3.tar file

Someone Please Upload TWRP_T31x_r3.tar file.

Thanks in Advance:cool:
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] arshull:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/643p536ev8u0y9b/TWRP_T31x_r3.tar
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] B.R.A:
whether the flashing TWRP will add binary counter like other samsung devices?, and whether there is a way to reset it?

I am employing google translate! LOL :D
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] abdoel_046:
no .. install this TWRP does not increase binary counter
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] surf1:
I have a Mac, how do I do this on a Mac lol? I noticed there there are .exe files in Odin etc. I'm used to rooting and flashing Samsung phones, but a little confused with this tablet.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] surf1:
I'm used to CWM, but even after reading about TWRP want to make sure i understand this, can you, or can you not just flash any rom with TWRP on this device?? I'm used to the phones where you have to run a specific rom made for the phone, i.e. Shostock3 on my i777. But reading the OP, does TWRP let you flash "any" rom onto this device (or any device for that matter)??
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] RobertdeHoop:
Firmware release dependent??

Hi,

When starting up my new device, I accepted the OTA Android update from Samsung.

Now I would like to install this custom recovery. Can anyone tell me if this will still work, or should I wait for a version that is compatible with my updated stock rom?

Thanks Rob.
[Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 Android Development] estor:
I root my t311 all fine , I wanted to instal 3-4 programs and I have problem it says "you don't have enought space ... " I don't know if this is a problem with root ?

for exaple I can't instal Lucky pacher but a can instal root explorer .