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[Android General] RaiderWill:
Exnor.. I again have to agree with your response.

Because.. Until something happens.. or I should say "If" something happens with any sort of Development then I am sure there will be questions. I think all the views this Thread has received are folks peeking in to see if anyone is going to pick up the ball an attempt to run with it.

There is not really a whole lot to say about a WW.img exploited ROM.. Maybe someday in 2014 things might look a bit brighter for Development of TWRP or even CWM.. At that point, a ROM may be compiled..

Anyway on a lighter note...:)

No Darn It !

I have not come to a final decision.. the LG G Pad 8.3 has gotten delayed in it's arrival to my local vendors! even though the computer shows "In Stock" starting the 10th they are no where in sight unless you order and have it shipped to your home.. That's not going to work for me.. So I'm hoping something shows up later this week.. I have to touch it before I consider purchasing it.. :cool:

The Note 8.0 is leading the race still mainly because having not only Root Access but TWRP's Custom Recovery, Odin's ability to easily flash MD5 Tar's, Tweaked Stock & Deodexed ROM's, not to mention CM 10.2.. which has allowed me to use AOKP Themes.. Like the MeMO, the Note 8.0's Settings Menu is White.. I hate White..:cool: so I can easily change it to Black with CM.. Here are a couple of shots.. Home Screen & Settings Menu..

This flexibility along with having an Overclocking Kernel to play with and the Deep Blacks and Over Saturated Colors of the Super Amoled+ Screen for movie watching and game playing along with the $100.00 discount I got, are what's leaning me towards keeping the Note 8.0.

I see there is also a script to swap internal/external storage.. The Note 8.0 supports 64Gb SDXC cards so I can purchase one, run the script and have 57 - 60 Gb's of main storage.. which would offset only having the current 16Gb internal option now.. so that would leave 2 things I would give up not going with the MeMO.. Constant Power to the Tablet even while sending a HDMI signal to my Big Screen and the Tablet screen size of only 8 inches vs 10.. honestly the colors are a lot more vivid on the Note 8.0 and the screen gets a lot brighter.. but text reading is sharper on the MeMO with it's 1920 x 1200 HD resolution.. ;)
[Android General] decodeSA:
hey guys, anyone notice little brightness change,when apps or browser loading,even when auto brigt... is off?
[Android General] RaiderWill:
It's a known issue.. the FHD 10 only has 250 nits of brightness.. so you will not see much of a change from about 60% up to 100%.
[Android General] Exnor:
Your note is looking good: )

Did u noticed that the resolution on the Memo is actually 720p? Even with the FHD screen it have the OS its just showing a lower res. I noticed that when i plugged it via HDMI.

I hope KitKat bring us true FhD support.... because this way this great LCD display is being wasted.....

I do love Oled screens (RGB ones not pen tile matrix like in my Nexus) but their lifespan is so much shorter than LCD :(

Side note: so far im amazed with the Memo battery... it last so much more than any other device i have tried.

Sent from Asus MemoPad FHD ME302C
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Thanks for the Compliment Exnor.. :cool:

On the MeMO's resolution.. you've lost me.. So, you're saying that the output via HDMI is bandwidth limited to 720P ?

Because lines of resolution on the screen are 1920 x 1200.. 1920 x 1080 is all you need to officially call it "Full HD"

Please elaborate further on your statement.. :confused:

There is no denying the Intel SoC does not generate very good battery life if you maximize the settings and keep the brightness below 40%..

Of course " Your Milage May Vary " depending on what you are doing.. but all things considered yes the MeMO does an excellent job.. and best of all it never runs hot... I like that.. :cool:

That's why I have a 32Gb arriving in 36 hours.. :good:
[Android General] Exnor:
So you decided to get the Memo? :)

Ok i'm going to clarifie... i've noticed that HDMI frame output is only 720p (tried on 3 TV's and all give me the same info.. just in case lol) and since i've notice no image flickering on the tablet when i connected the cable i think that the image displayed on the tablet is always 720(p)...

Now the screen is a true IPS LCD (LG or Panasonic made i'm not sure) with a pixel number of 1920 x 1200 aka above FHD standard so my concern is that the GUI (launcher or whatever GUI server Android uses) is only rendering at 720p therefore not taking advantage of this excellent screen.

Now notice that i'm not sure of this. I noticed only that the output via HDMI is true 720p and there is no graphical difference on the tablet screen when i use HDMI... so i think we are not getting a full HD image on Android.

If i'm correct then my question is if 4.4 version will bring a FHD capable launcher and IF Asus will use it on the Memo.

I also add suspicions about this because Chrome looks equal (frame size, viewable size of page, etc..) on the Memo and on my TF101 (that is only 720p able).

Do you know if your Note outputs 1080p?
[Android General] RaiderWill:
To answer your question.. No the Note does not do HDMI @ 1080P..

To answer your question.. Yes I've ordered a 32Gb MeMO FHD 10..

Sorry to say.. we are Not getting that Launcher.. (Maybe Rooted you could do a sideload)

Hmm.. I now see the logic you are using.. Let me ask you this.. Have you tried downloading a 1080P trailer to output thru HDMI ?

I may contact Asus on that issue.. We are not paying for 1200 x 720 or 1200 x 800 on screen.. They are marketing this as "Full 1080P" and it should display as such.. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Yep i did... in fact that was the reason that i plugged it in the 1st place to watch a 1080p BDrip (shhh dont tell RIAA lol).

It outputs always 720p.

But i can't be sure if the res on the tablet is 720p... i dont know where to start to search for that...

If my theory is correct, Android as it is right now does not do full HD on the launcher/graphic service... but maybe with kitkat that will change.

The screen if true FHD and i think we are seeing an upscaled 720p image. Of course we still get a better experience than with a lower res screen but if it really used all its potential it would be great (especially when using the browser since a lot of web pages now use big frame formats).

If i'm correct its not Asus or other manufacturer fault... its just an OS or "launcher" limitation. As i remember when google released JB it was to unify all devices under a same launcher/framework so its plausible that this is on the OS itself.

As far as i know iPad's have 2k screens BUT they do not render the GUI at that res... its just to have better dpi that give's the user a much better viewing experience.

Also Asus just released the TF701 that is equipped with a 2k screen and i dont think its rendering at that frame size either... But a Dev would be able to answer our questions properly (if is any reading this please do so).

The Hardware (GPU and of course the screen) are able to render full HD with no probs.

What do you mean when you say we are not getting a new launcher? Do you think Asus will not release kitkat for our tablet? If they do that this is the last tablet that i got from them! They screw me over with the TF101 by not giving us JB when it was fully capable of running it.

Edit: for what i found out its Sharp that makes the IPS LCD and not LG or Panasonic.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Let me ask you this Exnor.. After playing your HDMI content, have you tried to pause it.. and switch your T.V. to 720P output to see if there are any changes in the quality of picture?

It's my understanding that.. even Nexus 4 / Nexus 7 ( 2012 / 2013) & Nexus 10 (2012) owners are not getting the "Full 100%" of features in their update to 4.4 KitKat.. that is being reserved for Nexus 5 / Nexus 8 / Nexus 10 (2013) owners only..

Over course, that's straight over the counter.. Nexus 4 /7/ 10 (2012) will be able to sideload or run a Rooted ROM and be able to get the full effect of KitKat.. :cool:

EDIT: The New Launcher is available as a sideload... I downloaded it.. but to get the full benefits from it you still need KitKat as your Operating System...
[Android General] charlietheunicorn3:
Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 (ME302C) / Android 4.2.2

Hello,

This is my first time posting to this forum, so go easy on me. :)

I just purchased the Asus Memo Pad FHD 10 and it came with a 4.7.1 build from ASUS. I am looking to root the device, but haven't seen a whole lot out there that talks about the 4.7.x code. Is this because it is still fairly new? I did see that ASUS puts the source code on their download site, so I am wondering if that can be used to build an image that can be rooted?

I am not a developer, but I do have a good understanding of Linux and recompiling kernels etc. I have my tablet setup in debug mode and I can see it when I run the fastboot commands, so I am wondering if I am even close to where I can root it myself? If I just need to sit back and wait for an updated image to come out where I can use that to root it, that's fine, I just need someone to tell me that. Otherwise I am willing to take a shot at doing it myself if someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks in advance for the help.
[Android General] Exnor:
My 2 tv's auto detects the input... i can't force upscale or downscale :/... I've tried to unplug the Memo during video play and re-plugged again (HDMI) and the output is the same... (tried on my 2 LG LV5500 series full HD and on my friend Panasonic from this year).

Also the Debug mode on my TV shows the info of the input and it is 720p...

About KitKat: Of course that for now only nexus (not my Gnex :x unfortunately) get the premium treatment, but i'm hoping for an Asus version for our tablet.... especially because 4.2.2 does not have Trimm yet :/

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Would love to help you mate, but i'm not a dev nor even a decent coder :P i really cant help you.

There is somewhere in the forums a 4.7.2 root processes but i did not test it since i'm on 4.7.3 oficial.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Hey Exnor.. I had a horrible experience when I finally got around to turning on my MeMO.. a few "Unfortunately ______ has stopped" it would not even update the firmware.. It shipped with 4.5.5 I believe it was.. so I know it was not a refurbished unit or anything.. ( You don't want to receive one that is already on 4.7.____ .) it was strange.. so I just went into Recovery and did a Factory Reset.. Then it seemed to be fine.. Adjusting to the Maximum Brightness coming from a Samsung is the toughest thing to deal with so far.. but the unit feels good to the hand like I remembered it and the Fat Bezels do give you a place to rest your fingers.. I'm having to baby it because my screen protector has yet to arrive and I NEVER touch a screen to smear it with finger oil unless a protector is in place.. so I'm having to use a stylus only for now which limited some of my gameplay but in the end I'll have a Flawless looking screen when I apply the protector.. I feel like I might keep this one but, I do already miss Root and the advantages of a standard SoC vs this x 86 for compatibility with all Apps & Accessories.

No idea where you seen a Root Process for 4.7.2 firmware huh? I can't seem to find it.. I would Root this thing in a second if I could.

KitKat will be some time mid-2014.. This Tablet will not be high on Asus list as far as treating it to KitKat 4.4... Let's see how long it takes to get Jellybean 4.3..... :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Lol yes i think it was you that pointed me to the link for the root process :) but since i was unable to try it i forgot about it :P

That initial crash on the OS its weird... after a factory wipe/reset everything worked ok? Is it possible you got a returned unit that was not properly wiped?.

I dont have a problem with the max bright on the Memo screen... it is inferior to Samsung that is true but so far its ok for me.

Also is not the coating enough for now? i love the Memo screen because it feels almost like the one on my Nexus, its like velvet on the fingers and soo easy to clean (and i hate fingerprints o the screen :P)

What color did you get yours? myne is dark blue.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
LOL! If I pointed you to a 4.7.2 Root Process then I'm truly aging faster than I thought was.. ;) because I have no idea what you're talking about.. Oh.. I know, it was the 4.7.1 German.img.... Thats the one that will not share the Kernel Exploit to Root with someone here in the U.S. so we can get our Software Version's Rooted as well. I think I read there were issues happening with it anyway so you did best to stay away from it.

No the unit I bought is a "Fresh" one because it shipped with the Original 4.5.5 version software.. which is what they shipped with upon initial release.. It's the ones people bought that have "4.7.+" software already installed, that more than likely got Refurbished units.. These 4.5.5's have just been gathering dust on the warehouse shelves from lack of sales.. so, I know it's a Factory Fresh unit.. :cool:

This unit responds exceptionally well to the slightest touch of my stylus which is cool and helps a lot.. I hate oily fingerprints all over my screen as well.. so even with a protector on it I try to use a stylus as much as possible. but I have found that if you put the protector on right away before you ever touch the screen an contaminate it with finger oil & grease, it goes on easy and looks good.. you can NEVER wipe all of your finger's oils & grease off a screen once you've exposed the screen to it.. it just smears and is never 100% lifted off.. So I've learned to not touch a screen period until I put on the protector.. My protector has shipped so I only have a few more days to be extra carful... :good:

Brightness is ok indoors.. and there is not much need to go past 60% because the one Fatal Flaw in this Screen (that needs to get addressed in a software revision.) is that the brightness level Barely Changes at all really from 60% to 100%.. The Samsung I had would show as much change with a 7 - 10% adjustment.. until you put it MeMO next to a Tab 3 Series , Note series etc.. you would never know.. but trust me, there is a dramatic difference. The whites at night say in the Settings Menu, actually hurt your eyes at full brightness in a dark room...

I also got a Blue MeMO.. As you know, I hate white.. and we know who pink is for.. we don't have the option of the Grey one here in the U.S.

The other thing that is bothering me is the size.. This thing is Huge.. after having the luxury of an 8" screen to just snatch up and hold in one hand.. I have to admit other than game play and Netflix, it kinda feels almost too big... :laugh:
[Android General] Exnor:
Did you test the soft that was crashing your previous Memo? If it crashes this one too i think its the binary conversion after all... otherwise you were right lol.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Oh it works just fine.. I figured it was a bad tablet.. the internals where just overheating.. Like I had mentioned I have built many a computer and I know the symptoms of an Overheat / Failed Component lockup.. :cool:

I sit here staring at this thing Exnor and I just don't know.... I just don't know if it's truly what I want. The features are there for sure with 32 Gb's of internal storage ( I'd have to spend $50.00 in the Google Play Store just to fill it up ) and HDMI Out are great.. But I swear it looks and feels bigger and heavier than the 1st go round.. :(

Do they have the MeMO Pad 8 where you're located? I am starting to think 8 inches may be the Ideal Target size for me after having the Note 8.0 for a couple of weeks.. I have only seen 1 review on it but nothing for sale.. And have you seen the newer cheaper MeMO Pad 7 with a Celeron SoC?
[Android General] RaiderWill:
You Said A Mouth Full...

Exnor my friend... You summed it up in these few words that I quoted from you.. :cool:

The Nexus gets treated one way... and the Asus another..

I've turned my Asus MeMO in and purchased a Nexus 7 2013.. There is an outlet here in the states that was running a promo that granted a $50.00 discount.. so I got a 32Gb for close to $200.00 U.S. dollars..

The Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 was like a Wife from a 10 year marriage.. You come home from work the house is clean.. Dinner is cooked.. Bills are paid.. You watched the same shows on T.V... Go to bed at the same time.. Sex on Saturday Night....

"By The Numbers".....Routine.....You Can Set Your Watch By It..

So................ You're ready to flirt with that Hot Girl at work in the Red Dress... The one that makes even the mundane Exciting.. :cool:

There is NOTHING wrong with the MeMO Pad FHD 10.. Nothing... It does everything just fine and is a Great Tablet.. and for 99% of the people such as yourself that buys it.. They will be 100% satisfied..

I fall in that other 1%. I had to admit to myself that the HDMI Out, 32Gb's of storage etc were not enough my friend.. and I got that cold feeling about an hour after I took it out of the box.. but I just did not want to admit it.

I Need Root... I Need TWRP... I NEED ROM's...... I needed the Nexus-7 2013 and it's 20+ ROMS here on XDA.

I Need This Girl In The Hot Red Dress to make me feel Excited once again. :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
Lol your analogy is interesting... i hope in 10 years i dont feel like that about my wife :P .

Analogy apart if you feel better with the Nexus then you should keep it mate :). For me 7'' is not enough... My wife uses a Samy tab2 7'' and i cant stand working on that small screen.

For me the ideal should be next gen 10inch tablets... but i needed a new one now so this was, for the price, my best option and yes i'm still very satisfied with it..

Sure i still want to root it but to be honest i add no need right now. For that i have my old TF101.

If all goes well in 2 years i will retire this one and get a new one... who knows what be available... ARM is pushing now the Cortex A57 series and Intel is committed to bring more x86 power and power efficient SoC until the end of 2014. This next year will be full of great innovation :).

I also feel that bigger than 11 inc is too much... i got an Acer tablet from 2003 (yep the 1st real tablets, Windows XP tablet edition and Intel Pentium M inside) that is 12inch and it feels too big.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Oh You're Going To Want The "Red Dress" :cool:

It's a matter of "IF" you pursue that Red Dress or not.. That will decide your fate... ;)

My fate just is not with the MeMO.. I kinda felt that way when I was ordering it.. but I lied to myself thinking the 32Gb's of storage & HDMI Out made it worthwhile to try it again.. But in the end I was wrong....

The reason a lot of us hang out here on XDA is because we have the skill to step "Outside the Box" from the Average User.. we know how to use a Command Line.. we know how to Root.. we know how to make a Tablet or Phone *Our Own*.. so we come here with a thrust for knowledge.. and to see what some of these INCREDIBLE Developers have created to make our devices More Efficient & Just Plain Fun to use..

That's what XDA is all about.

The MeMO made me feel like I was at the Racetrack with my car ready to run the course and I could not even get my car started! :cool:

And No One wanted to take the time to help me because my car was setup a little differently than theirs was.. :crying:

So here I sat.. in the pits with a car that looked great.. but as far as everyone else was concerned, was from "Another World"

I did not like that feeling Exnor.

The 8" form factor really made me realize that for me, that.. is the "ideal' size.. and I would have seriously considered ordering the LG G Pad 8.3 but like most reviewers are saying.. It's a great tablet.. but it's OVERPRICED at $350.00 ( U.S. ) and I agree your pushing $400.00 with tax here in the states and that's just too much for me. The Note 8.0 I had ran great as well.. but the white color seriously almost made me puke everytime I looked at it... I hate White.

So. Along comes the chance to get a 32Gb Nexus 7 2013 for $220.00 U.S. dollars.. brand spanking new, easy to Root ( Took less than 5 minutes from opening the box to being Rooted with SuperSu installed ) of course it came with 4.3.. within a minute it already prompted me to upgrade to 4.4 KitKat.. All I had to do was Re-Root it after the update... DONE.

Now I have 20+ ROM's to play with and make my Nexus 7 my Own.. I will get a 16Gb Nexus-5 after the 1st of the year and be done with it.. I think this device along with the SII, SII, SIV devices are the most supported here on XDA..

There will always be new outfits for my Girl in the Red Dress to try on..... I will always be accepted at the Racetrack and get support from the experts..

This is why I came to XDA... And this is why I am 100% happy with my Price & Purchase of my Black Nexus-7 2013.. :cool:

Update: Exnor.. you know how you can get a sign that tells you.. "This Happened For A Reason" ? well.. I just got that sign.

I went to the mailbox and guess what was in it? A Replacement Slimport Device for one that I had ordered a while back that was defective.. The Vendor sent me another No Charge and it works Flawlessly with the Nexus-7 2013.. So now I don't even miss the HDMI Out because the Slimport unit charges while outputting a signal just like the MeMO did :) So I still have 32 Gb of Real Usable Internal Storage & HDMI Out with 100% Charging while doing so... I guess this was meant to happen my friend.
[Android General] Exnor:
The nexus 7 outputs via MHL right?

Well if the Nexus 10 was more affordable where i live, and if they upgrade it to a S800 SoC i would definitely get one instead the Memo... but like i've said screen + performance are an issue to me... and i can't work with a 7 inch screen :/

Yep i love to use custom Roms/builds but in the end i need my tablet to be functional to work... So i keep playing with my TF101 that has a good dev support around here.

I just want someone to open a dedicated section here at XDA and a nice Dev that can bring us Root...