yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] SkinnyBiggs:
I have bbs don't really know how to work it I have wake lock detector that's what I usually use to see what's waking my device.

"You are and will become your most dominant thoughts" - Napoleon Hill
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
If you look at the attached word document when Tomtom launches it sets the following registry keys

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\ACTimeout to &FFFFFFFF and

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\BatteryTimeout to &FFFFFFFF

when on my XDA2 they should be 300 and 600 respectively. When Tomtom exits these values are restored.

I have written a program that launches Tomtom, then after 7 seconds restores these registry values to their original values and viola the backlight is restored without the need for the user to have to adjust it manually.

Here is the code and I shall next day upload a cab file with more details and which can be installed. It is configurable and places a shortcut in your start menu.

Enjoy.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] m@rco:
Great Job Sjubb :D

Now i can upgrade to WM 2005 again :wink:

Greetings m@rco
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
Thanks Sjubb. Great work :D :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
n/a

n/a
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
Microsoft Compact Framework 2.0 (Beta2) redistrubatable

Compack Framework Version 2.0 is no longer needed

They should work straight away now as I have produced a version that works with Compact Framework Version 1.0 (and this is installed by default on most PDAs)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
n/a, see bottom for page for help on compact framework

n/a, see bottom for page for help on compact framework
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] demonbarber:
Microsoft Compact Framework 2.0 (Beta2) redistrubatable

The problem I seem to have is that Microsoft Compact Framework 2.0 (Beta2) redistrubatable will not install correctly. I've tried the one sjubb uploaded I've downloaded it from microsoft. What happens is everything seems to install ok (with both versions) but then when my XDA2 resets itself nothing! No program! and in add remove programs the tick box indicates that it's not been installed. Many thanks to sjubb for his help and Buzz for the OS.

rom version 1.05g.00wwe

rom date 04/17/05

radio 1.10.00

protocol 1337.18
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
sorted now!

Right guys,

A lot simpler now. No need for Microsoft Compact Framework 2.0, they should run straight away now (as most PDAs have version 1 installed) as I have made it compatible with version 1.0

Just download the attached files and follow the instructions in the word document.

cheers

Steve J
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
OpenNETCF.zip

you will need to extract it in order to put on your device.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] monster:
Just one slight hiccup...

Hi SJubb, Many thanks for your effort. Yet another masterpiece in the making!!

I followed your instructions (the latest one without the Framework 2) and.

It starts tomtom fine, but the light is still disabled. I am running Magneto (clearly..).

Many thanks for your effort. Really look forward to getting it working.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] monster:
Works!!!

Sorry SJubb, I take it back. Restarted, repeated install, works like a charm!! Many thanks for such a great app, now all we need is Widcomm for Windows Mobile 5 and we're set!!

You, along with the rest of the gurus are what makes owning an XDAII such a pleasure. I only wish I had the skill to contribute to this endevour.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
info

monster what version of windows 2005 are you on?

I have someone on 1.50f experiencing problems. I myself could not get it to work properly on that version.

cheers

Steve J
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jtornh:
I have installed this, and it works. The only problem is, that everytime i run the program a dialogbox turns up saying: The maximum delay interval in order to turn the backlight on is 20 seconds. This is avoid hanging your xda2. It will be set to 7.5 seconds.

Is there a way to avoid this dialog box?

Apart from this it works perfect. Thank you for all your work.

regards

John
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
You need to adjust the interval as part of the shortcut. If you see the user guide it gives details.

If you don't want to do that go into file explorer, go to \windows\start menu\programs and delete the shortcut.

Then go back to the original patch file, rerun it and it will recreate the shortcut for you with a default of 7.5 seconds.

Please test and advise.

cheers

steve jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
forgot!

Forogot to mention make sure the number you use for the interval is less than 20.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jtornh:
Hi

I have tried this several times now. but the dialog box still appears.

I need to tell you, taht when i press ok to the dialog box tomtom starts and backlight is turned on.

I just wantted to get rid of the dialog box.

my device is a spv M1000

and I use this rom:

WM2k5_1.50h_XDA2_HIMALAYA

I have opend the shortcut in notepad and it looks ok according to the install guide.

regards

John
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
fair dos

version without messagebox

enjoy

steve jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jtornh:
Perfect

Hi

Thank you, now it works perfect.

You have made a great work.

regards

John
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
I had problems with 1.50f but as soon as I upgraded to 1.50h it worked like charm. Tomtom working sweetly now.

Great job. 10/10 for all efforts. :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
glad its working

glad tomtom is working now for most of you. I found the backlight being dimmed really annoying! and cumbersome having to set every time I launched Tomtom.

I shared the solution as my way of saying thanks to buzz and the gang for all his good work on getting 2005 to work.

In my development work this 2005 upgrade has solved so many technical shortcomings I had with 2003SE.

cheers to you all

Steve J :P
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] demonbarber:
Thanks

Many thanks to sjubb (steve) for your help getting my backlight to work. I used the Microsoft Compact Framework 1 version and set the delay time to 12 seconds. Once again many thanks

XDA2 on orange

rom version 1.05g.00wwe

rom date 04/17/05

radio 1.10.00

protocol 1337.18

:D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] monster:
stopped working

:(

Hi Sjubb,

It worked great for a couple of hours, now it only works if I reset. Any help would be appreciated.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
try this

increase the backlight interval to 19 seconds, it most likely is the fact that tomtom is taking longer to load, when after a reset tomtom will load quicker.

see guide for details

steve
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] monster:
Re: try this

Didn't work, I'm afraid. Do I need to install Framework version 1?

Thanks.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
info

What pda are you using and what rom version do you have?

The more information you can give, the more I can try and diagnose the issue.

cheers

Steve Jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
newer version

Here is a version that does not rely on timing.

1) Copy the attached file to an appropriate location

2) run the attached file

3) it will created a shortcut to itself (a message box will confirm this)

4) assign one of your buttons to launch this program

5) launch tomtom

6) after it has launched and is waiting, press this button to launch

the attachment

7) the backlight should come on.

This may be more reliable for some people, unfortunately it just means you will have a button to press!

Remember to copy the OpenNetCf.dll from above into the same directory otherwise it will not work.

cheers

Steve Jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
info

Monster asked Do I need to install Framework version 1?

No, it is already installed by default on most PDAs. You would get an error message if it wasn't installed.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] monster:
Re: info

Hi Steve, my device is as follows:

XDAII (02)

Windows Mobile 5

Rom version: 1.50f.blwwe

Rom Date: 05/13/05

Radio version: 1.17.00

Protocol Version: 1337.28

TomTom 4.40 (Bakonl)

The backlight refuses to come on at now, even after a reset. I'm hoping to upgrade to a later version of windows mobile 5. I'm hoping it will sort out some of bugs I'm having.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] twin power:
hey guys,

After I read this, I reupgraded immediattely...AGAIN ;o)

It worked great, BUT, after a minute or 5, backlight goes off, when I touch the sreen, it goes back on, but after 5 minutes, it goes off again!

Anybody else has this??

pls Help

GRTZ

Twin Power!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
try this

There is an option called that controls this called

"Turn off backlight if device is not used for "

in Baclight settings in your control panel. See if this is ticked.

Steve
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] twin power:
Re: try this

Steve,

Off course I tried this, still not working, I hard resetted my devive, reinstalled TT, nothing helps, I'm really getting p**sed off here :x

grtz

and THX 4 the great work!

Twin Power!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
more info pls

Does the backlight problem occur even if tomtom is not loaded?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Krypt:
I've got the same problem.. Backlight is getting switched of.

No Backlight timeout is set in my settings when tomtom is active and the backlight fix is run during running tomtom.

Which settings do you use (are they fixed); or are the settings, which are set when the backlight fix is started for the first time, stored somewhere?

Thanks for the program btw.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] twin power:
Re: more info pls

Nope, only when I run TomTom

BTW, is TT5 running on magneto?

grtz

Twin Power!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Dodger:
Hi Steve,

I've the problem to.

What I am observing is the following:

after starting the fix, ik takes about 14 seconds and the the 2 tomtom hands appears as icon on the bottom right hand corner of the screen.

The backlight is normal. But if i tap the icon than the backlight turns off

and TTN5 screen comes up.

Hopes this helps.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
The program takes a note of the actimeout and batterytimeout settings from the registry, loads tomtom (which changes these values to FFFFFFFF causing the backlight to dim).

My patch then restores the original registry values and the backlight is restored.

I do not impose my own values, as I do not know what they are set to on the pda that the patch is run on.

At the moment the patch has been tested and works with Tomtom 4.40. It appears that Tomtom 5.0 has different behaviour.

However I do not have a copy of Tomtom 5.0 so cannot test in depth.

I will try and obtain a copy and test but can't promise anything. Sorry.

It appears than Tomtom 5.0 is interacting with the Backlight differently than Tomtom 4.40, hence the patch not working.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
Can everyone post if they are having the problem which version of Tomtom they are using. Has anyone tried using the newer version I posted which is activated on a button press?

I will try and get a copy of tomtom 5.0 to test, but no promises....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Same problem that twin power

Hi everybody,

to answer the posts seen above

twin power

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 16:57

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

hey guys,

After I read this, I reupgraded immediattely...AGAIN ;o)

It worked great, BUT, after a minute or 5, backlight goes off, when I touch the sreen, it goes back on, but after 5 minutes, it goes off again!

Anybody else has this??

pls Help

I have the same problem with TOMTOM 4.4 after one minute the backlight turn off ? Because the selection in Backlight Parameters were changed by "Turn off backlight if device is not used for 1min" (selected in parameters) by the TTN Navigator Fix ?

So

If I change manually my settings when i go to Backlight parameters (press red call button and go to backlight parameters) this prog is used for nothing if I am obliged each time to modify manually.

I have the same good result if modify manually the settings

Backlight occur for one minute is so bad in our case

sjubb

31 posts since May '05

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 09:47

Subject: more info pls

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does the backlight problem occur even if tomtom is not loaded?

Problem occur after tomtom was started and closed

My question :

Normally your fix disabled "Turn off backlight if device is not used" ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Resolved with your Prog Turn Backlight On

Ok i resolved my problem with your last prog

"Turn Backlight On" (attribution on the calendar button)

Thank you for your prog ;)

Regards
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
Confused

What does attribution on the calendar button mean?

cheers

Steve Jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Calendar button of SPVM1000

I have to use my button of calendar in my spv M1000 for run your application (before i adjust with wordpad the short cut of your prob because missed " a the end

49#"\Program Files\turn_back_light_on.exe"

But i speak so quickly because i have the same problem on tomtom 4.4

the backlight off after 1/2 mn :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
I was also having the same problem after upgrading from tomtom 4.4 to tomtom 5. Tomtom 4.4 worked fine with the backlight fix, but tt5 would only work for about a minute and the backlight would go off again.

The turn_backlight_on fix, assigned to my camera button now works fine, but I did have to edit the shortcut in Notepad to add a " at the end.

Thanks again. :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] AkTje:
Both options work for me.

In the "Turn Backlight On" I had to edit the shortcut (Like the guy above me :p) with a " on the end.

Only problem is that tomtom shut's down the backlight after 2 minutes :x
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] twin power:
can you pls tell me were to put the " ?

I'm dont know anything about editting this shortcut?

Mb u can email your exe file to me, if u want u can send me a PM and I will give u my mailadres!

thx

Twin Power!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] AkTje:
Twin Power, just copy the shortcut (Windows/Start Menu/Programs/Turn Backlight On) to your desktop. Then open Notepad and open the file.. In notepad you must select in the combobox (All files.. not only .txt)

But it won't solve the problem when backlight stay on after 2/5 minutes..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
Here you go:

1. On the xda browse to My Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs and copy the shortcut file called 'Turn Backlight On' and copy this file to your PC

2. Open Notepad on your PC

3. Click File and Open

4. Change the 'Files of Type' drop-down box to 'All Files'

5. Browse to the shortcut you copied over and open it

6. Just type a speech mark at the end of the string so that the end looks like: \turn_back_light_on.exe"

7. Now save the Notepad file and then copy it back to the xda at My Device\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

Job done!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] AkTje:
If sjubb can change his program that "Turn off backlight if.." is unchecked

TT5 Works great! :D

Only one problem i have, i can install voices.. and i don't know which one "eva - dutch" is :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
Aw **** you're right. So only manaully unticking the backlight option in Settings > System > Backlight > External Power each time you run tomtom works for now.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
?

I'm confused about Tomtom 5 and the issues you are all facing and what you have done.

What changes need to be made to the patch and for what reason?

I am happy to oblige I just need a full understanding of everything first.

cheers

Steve Jubb
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] AkTje:
The option "Turn Bleutooth On" don't works 100% in Windows Mobile 5

This is easy to fix, like said 3 post above me.. Open the Shortcut and edit him.. If you don't do that he won't open it.

If i'm in TomTom 5 (at windows magneto) the Backlight goes on (after 7sec he's going on.only i had to change it to 19 in the shortcut of "TT Backlight Fix")

But after 1 minute the backlight goes off?

I think it is something in your program, he sets the settings to default..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Re: ?

Hi Steve,

It's so good if it's possible for you to change your progs

just so that it disable "Turn off backlight if device is not used" in Backlight parameters

Because it's this parameter that cause the problem

thx ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Default values

For information In Regedit

Before to run TOMTOM 4.4

ACTimeout 0x0 (0)

ACTimeout Unchecked 0x258 (600)

BatteryTimeout 0x0 (0)

BatteryTimeout Unchecked 0x12C (300)

When i run TOMTOM 4.4 these values REG-DWORD change :

ACTimeout 0x0 (0) Switch to --> AcTimeout 0xFFFFFFFF(4294967295) (bad value)

ACTimeout Unchecked 0x258 (600) (fixed no change it's good)

BatteryTimeout 0x0Switch to --> BatteryTimeout 0xFFFFFFFF (4294967295) (bad value)

BatteryTimeout Unchecked 0x12C (300) (fixed no change it's good)

So would be good if your progs return to default these values :

AcTimeout 0xFFFFFFFF(4294967295) return default value ACTimeout 0x0 (0) (good value)

BatteryTimeout 0xFFFFFFFF (4294967295) return to default value BatteryTimeout 0x0 (0) (good value)

It would be the best way

Regards ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
That your program modifies just the two values :

ACTimout to default value 0x0 (0)

BatteryTimeout to default value 0x0 (0)

;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
Which program? The one designed to be launched from a button and does not launch Tomtom?

The one that launches tomtom on launch before loading tomtom records these registry vallues

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\ACTimeout

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\BatteryTimeout

Tomtom is launched, then after an interval restores these registry values to their original values and viola the backlight is restored without the need for the user to have to adjust it manually.

So with this version your original registry values are used.

The version that just sets the backlight does set these values to 300 and 600 respectively. I presume you want it to set them to 0? on this version
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
How about a version that allows you to put entries in for

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\ACTimeout

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\BatteryTimeout

and whether to tick the option "Turn Off Backlight if device is not used for".

These would be prompted for when running the patch directly, but not from the shortcut.

This way you would have control.

What do you think?

However you do realise that these settings would remain after you come out of Tomtom Navigator 5.0?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Hi steve

Thank you for your reply

Above

I spoke about the problem encountered without any patch

Actually

When i use TomTom BacklightFix.exe or

turn backlight on.exe my reg original values :

Before to use patch :

ACTimeout 0x0 (0)

BatteryTimeout 0x0 (0)

after reg values are changed by your patch by these values:

ACTimeout 0x3C (60) (during 1mn after backlight off)

BatteryTimeout 0x3C (60) (during 1mn after backlight off)

Same thing when I use the create shortcut Tomtom FIX in one case

or when i press my assigned button in an other case.

So I search just a patch tha when I use the shortcut (TomtomFixBacklight shortcut so good solution)

The values which follow are fixed by the patch :

ACTimeout 0x0 (0)

BatteryTimeout 0x0 (0)

These values manage the enable/disabled the parameters "Turn off backlight if device is not used"

when they are to zero "Turn off backlight if device is not used" is disabled

Regards
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] hosh:
Actually

I use all the time my SPVM1000 with this value even apart from tomtom

ACTimeout 0x0 (0)

BAtteryTimeout 0x0 (0)

Values for "Turn off backlight if device is not used" is disabled

And i press my power button on the high part on the left for the sleep mode (SPVM1000) and press for power on all the time

Regards
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] AkTje:
Someone has a solution? To fix the backlight problem ? (After 1 min backlight)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] twin power:
Hi there,

I THINK I found a sollution for the backlight problem with WM2k5 and TT 4.4...

I started with a CLEAN MDA, nothing installed...

1) Instal TT navigator

2) Start it

3) After TT is started, press the RED PHONE BUTTON

4) Go to start-->steeings-->system-->backlight

5) Remove the little birdie @ "turn of backlight if device is not used for..."

6) Backlight should go on now.

7) restart TT Navigator

8) Exit TT navigator

9) perform a SOFT RESET

10) restart TT Navigator

If all went good, backlight should stay on now, if not, repeat steps above and try again. I tried it 2 times and it worked for me, backlight stays on.

I have a T-mobile MDA II with WM2k5 1.50i installed.

GRTZ

Twin Power!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] ekkelon:
Oopppss ...

I have insert the files (also the .dll) in the dir. of my S100 PDA (WM 2003 SE).

But when I lauch the program ... an error message appear ...

Someone can help me!?

Thank you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] sjubb:
XDA2

The patch only works on XDA2 and windows mobile 2005
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] TheJ0ker:
Hope this helps

The problem appears to be that, as you are already aware. The tomtom 5 affects the registry in a different way. To start the backlight time out ond goes of after a few mins of operation.

Next once tomtom is closed down the external power timeout is enabled. Meaning that if you put your pda on external power it will turn the backlight of after 1 min. Now i tried the tomtom 5 without running your program and yes the backlight went of. But when I shut it down the external power backlight was normal.

Your program appears to be doing something to the axternal power backlight option.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] riksworld76:
Xda2 wm2005 backlight

Hi all

After finaly getting tomtom version 5 installed I run into the dreaded no backlight

Can any one help here please, I have tried the following so people know, thanks to all who help

I have changed the reg entries manual to 300 and 600 for

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\ACTimeout

HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\BatteryTimeout

Have tried messing with the backlight settings in the control control, no good

I have tried the tomtom backlight fix, installed the dll, run the setup, says copied shortcut, the shortcut is there with no icon, when i run it, nothing happens

Does any one else have any more ideas otherwise i will have to reflash my xda2 back to 2003 :(

thanks to all who shed any light on this

Rik.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] TheJ0ker:
This Works for me

U copy the navigator exe from your pda to your pc

Load it into a Hex Editor

Search for the phrase backlight (It appears 4 times)

and with the hex editor chnage it to

Bdcklight <- and yes it is miss spelled wrong on purpose

The save it back to your pda

Now when tomtom tries to change your backlight settings to the registry it leaves the correct settings alone and therefore no change

I can't take credit for this solution I found it elsewhere and it works for me a treat...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jdee246:
Re: This Works for me

Tried this and can't get it to work. Can you confirm that 'Bdcklight' has a capital B and the rest lower case?

I copied the file from My Device > Prog Files > Navigator

The hex iditor only found 2 entries not 4 for 'backlight' to change with the hex editor.

What version of WM5 are you using?

Thanks for your help.

JD