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[Nexus 4 Accessories] tiru.adi13:
Anyone using it yet? And any idea on how much shipping to India would cost?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
Very excited for the pictures, everytime I see a new reply I'm furiously clicking at last post lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rebj2007:
I can't understand why my order is in customs now. It's from tx and I'm in LA. I think domestic shipments don't need that.

UPDATE:

received it.

It has a turn on and off button. But it's pretty big. I'll say I'll just use it when i ran out of juice. I can say i has the thickness about 2 N4 back to back.

SENT FROM MY RAGING NEXUS⁴ ?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Prey521:
WOW that's hideous and def couldn't keep it on the phone all the time, but i'll buy it for a rainy day....just keep it in my book bag as a just in case. I get great batt life with the Cataclysm ROM/faux kernel combo.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rmhumtex97:
Oh nice, yeah I got mine also but you already posted pics so I won't bother but I feel the buttons could be a little more responsive and yes it is huge. Very huge
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Ah damn, buyer's remorse already and I won't be getting mine until tomorrow.

For what it's worth, using it as a "backup" will get unfavorable results in terms of battery life. Charging is inefficient.

Any input on how easy it'd be the take the thing apart? I hope to mod mine.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
holy crap that is UGLY!:eek:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Cream$ickleHJ:
gets some picks while using it in a apple store, have somebody else take em..i wanna see reactions, tell them its a future device sent back to save them,..ill think ill be ordering one too, keep us updated about battery life too
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rmhumtex97:
I'll let you know about battery life in a few days
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Anyone do any camera+flash testing yet? It looks like there might be some real nasty glare if the flash reflects off the case. That's always been a common problem with these kinds of battery cases.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rmhumtex97:
The camera was perfectly fine with and without flash for me.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tcardozo:
God damn it's ugly
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Prey521:
WTH! That's hideous.....I'll save my money for some other accessory lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] adichandra:
for how much i live my nexus 4, i still use more my s4 because of the replaceable battery. so i always never charge the phone, just swap it when it's low. and these days, all vendors are making non replacable battery life except samsung and that sucks. hope the next nexus will have a replaceable battery which is highly unlikely :(
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rebj2007:
I home they made the design like the other battery cases they made. it's like i'm holding a brick.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] serialtoon:
why didn't you get the big one? Lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] bleuwave:
Yeah man, it's pretty bad. It's too big for very little juice. You can and should return it if you don't like it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rebj2007:
I'll keep it and I'll just use it in case I'm out of juice.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] rmhumtex97:
Yeah, its huge but I do like the functionality. Still trying to test the battery so if there is an app that will record the battery and screen on time stuff when its charging and when its not then tell me
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rebj2007:
Did you follow the 12hrs initial charging?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] rmhumtex97:
I know I should have but no I didn't.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
I'm still buying it. Don't care Wtf it looks like. As long as it does what it does. My Nexus 4 isn't America Next Top Model. Lol
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Visa Declined:
Some people here seem to care more about their phone than anything else in life. It's not just a phone to them, they covet it, and the way it looks means so much.

My Nexus 4 is neat, I try to take care of it, but I don't understand the infatuation some display here. As far as this case goes, I bought the black one. It's bulky, but the extra fuel is great.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
THIS THING IS ALL LEMON. I AM DEVASTATED. I WOULD PAY A FIFTY PERCENT RESTOCKING FEE.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
Maybe if they had some cooch they'd think differently. But I totally agree. My white Nexus 4 is in perfect condition. So I'm almost four the extra juice.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] masterindis:
talk about fugliness hahaha. i will opt for the Limeade..5000mAh for $25 from Amazon.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rebj2007:
Is it sour?

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Lap823:
I can't believe they didn't just make it like the mophie. There's is no way it needed its own battery. Could've been slimmer. Terrible design.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
Will anyone be doing a detailed (video?) review with lots more pictures of all the unit, how to put the phone into the case, maybe an unboxing etc.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
You need directions on how to take it out of the box?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
looks like we'll never get it on the uk anyway, may as well show us what it is like fresh out of the box ;)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Visa Declined:
The case is bulky but well built. I really like it, and the extra battery life is great.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] benjdm:
Anyone try running down their main battery and then recharging from the Zerolemon to see how much they get?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Visa Declined:
I can give it a shot this week at some point.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Cream$ickleHJ:
I wanna see a case made for this, call it the brick-or-bust case

"iPhone=Boat shoes,sweaters over shirt/tie,whores,non prescriptive glasses with slicked hair,hipster concerts,too much ignorance"-sent from my NEXUS 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Volume up and power buttons are hard to press. Volume down is fine.

Battery LEDs (four for full charge) won't stop blinking while in use.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] benjdm:
Android Central has a short review up:

http://m.androidcentral.com/review-zerolemon-nexus-4-juicer-removable-battery-case
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Prey521:
Love the first paragraph LMAO
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Visa Declined:
At my job, I'm out on the floor of our facility for an 11hr shift. Nightly. Charging my phone means leaving it behind somewhere, or carrying my New Trent battery pack along with me. This Zero Lemon case gets me through the night, and I don't care if it's ugly. Nobody is admiring the beauty of our cell phones, even though some here believe that's the case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
I may consider this if they ever released this in the UK...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] elfensky:
elaborate

Now that you have used it for some time, could you elaborate a bit more? the pros and contras of the case, also how well is the screen protected?

It is a lot harder to put in to your pocket, or still acceptable?

But thanks anyway for uploading the pictures, I was waiting for a nexus4 battery case to finally appear, and the pictures on Amazon are not always that great.

Besides, I'd rather see the real life usage pics than the white Amazon backgrounds. :good:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Big plans :)

Case separates easily without tools. Two PCBs. Lots of wasted space. Could have easily supported dual batteries (rotated 90deg like the traditional zerolemon trios).

And a lot of space to the right of the camera :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
Hope there is an easy mood to increase capacity
[Nexus 4 Accessories] frigidazzi:
I do 12 hour nights and have no time to charge and usually end with 50 to 80 percent after work. How much actual work are you getting done? Lol.

Sorry I'm teasing. Couldn't resist. But I do leave with that amount typically.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Procyon_82:
How does it feel holding your phone? Is it heavy? It looks bulky...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
So my black ZeroLemon arrived yesterday, and although I couldn't wait to try out the case and immediately threw it on and charged it for a couple minutes just to see if it worked, I did take it off soon after and charge it overnight to do the proper 12 hour priming they recommend. Today I used my phone about as much as I could, and managed to get my battery down to 15%. I turned on the case and it brought me back up to 85% with minimal use. Of course, the directions recommend that you run the case through 5 or 6 full cycles for it to "calibrate," so I'll just have to see if the battery output augments over the next week.

As to physical characteristics, the volume up and power buttons are hard and harder to press, respectively. The volume down button is satisfying to press, while the "on" button at the bottom of the case works just as it should, requiring you to hold it down for a few seconds before the pretty blue LEDs wake up and start flashing. Yes, the LEDs flash constantly. Even when you're charging it at night and it gets to be fully charged, the LEDs stay on, à la Mophie iPhone 4 JuicePack Air (either blinking or solid, depending on the charging capacity).

The case is actually nice looking in the matte black, but of course it's a behemoth of an accessory. It does feel sturdy, like an Otterbox, but the build quality is questionable when compared to the soft touch material Mophie uses on some of their models. The Mugen--admittedly in my opinion a worse looking case--seems to be built with higher quality material. The trade-off is worth it for me, as, everything else aside, I'd rather have a symmetrical, evenly designed ZeroLemon than an ostensibly wobbly and oval-shaped Mugen. But I haven't seen the Mugen in real life (I can't imagine many people have), so my comparison is fairly speculative.

The case charges at AC speed, not USB, although I am not sure what the voltage is. It functioned well on its first day. I'll update you soon.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
It presents voltage on the data lines :(

Soldering iron heating up now. About to fix that :p
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Didn't catch that--what do you mean?

Also, I found out when you plug in the case with the phone in it, the phone's battery gets priority and is charged first, followed by the case. Also, when connecting the case to computer via USB, there is no sync. Unfortunately, to do anything between phone and computer via USB you need to remove the phone from the case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Kevinfromcanada:
Does anyone else have a problem with the fit of the case? My phone does not fit all the way into the case because the charging port is misaligned and does not properly align with my phone. Does anyone else have this problem or am I just not pushing my phone in hard enough? I'm pretty sure if I put any more force into it, my phones charging port will break.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
You have to give it a little extra than you'd think is necessary. Of course, use your best judgment, but it doesn't slide right in
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Here's an update for those who are interested. I turned the case on once again when my phone was at 15%. The case seems to charge in about 15% increments before it loses one of its 4 LEDs. So, theoretically, that's 60% for the entire case. However, the last LED lasts much longer. The second to last got me from 40% to 55%, while the last LED got me from 55% to 81%. So, about 66% today, compared to 70% yesterday, of a charge. These values are not fully accurate or commensurable, as I used my phone in varying degrees yesterday and today.

To charge from 15% to 81% took about 1 hour 40 minutes.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Obeythex:
But you gatta admit, that bulk is crazy lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] lineape:
It's not an attractive looking case, that's for sure.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Just as bulky as an Otterbox. And I didn't see people complaining about their Ottorbox-clad iPhone 4 back before sexy slim phones were the norm. We've been spoiled to the point where we complain about 720p screens instead of 1080p screens. There's always going to be something thinner, lighter, faster, nicer looking, better marketed. And if there isn't, just wait 6 months and there will be. That's a game no one can win.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] thesavvymage:
man, I just wish more of the back could have been devoted to the battery. I guess its hard because it has to wedge between the camera and the speaker... Maybe they'll revise it later on.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Obeythex:
In my opinion, I'd take the ottorbox-clad rather than this any day. But other than that, I was never complaining about the bulk, just stating how bulky it looks. So calm down bro. You went light years ahead of my comment haha.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Let it be known I am deeply ashamed of my soldering, so this tinypic will have to do.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Oh haha i wasn't really replying to your comment, i was just giving my opinion on a broader topic relevant to other facets than the one at hand.

in terms of the case, the one complaint i'd have physically is it's so heavvyyy
[Nexus 4 Accessories] toge64:
What am I looking at here?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
Did anyone else have this issue with DHL? My package stopped moving on Tuesday morning and hasn't updated since. Odd.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] diggy_:
Battery Case looking like Precious :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] slopokdave:
I received mine yesterday, first impressions:

Damn its thick (TWSS)... I've had extended batteries before but this takes the cake. In my work pants its not really comfortable sitting down. Wearing shorts its fine, not sure about jeans yet but probably similar to the work pants.

I charged it for about 8 hrs last night then it woke me up in the middle of the night because my phone, while in the case, was going on/off because it kept charging/not charging. My phone says it got to 90% then stopped. Not sure what happened there. I've been using it today though and it will charge/keep to 100%

I like keeping the top piece off so I can just slide in/out my phone as I please. Kind of like a mobile battery pack more so than a case. It's nice to use and works better than a battery pack to me because I can still use it normal without something dangling from it. With the top piece off, the surrounding case still holds it snug enough and locked into the usb port that I don't worry about it falling out. It even takes a bit of a nudge to get it to slide back out.

The case is a soft touch material, a little slippery; more grip would have been better.

I may have to register this as a weapon. ;)

So far I like it, but again more as an external battery than a case for now.. But maybe that will change. We'll see.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Same thing happened to me. Wait another day.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
2 days after it stopped moving it Came? Where you located? I'm in Georgia.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Correct. I'm in Massachusetts. I imagine it got delayed at the sorting center. Perhaps your situation is different from mine, but the tracking didn't update for a couple days, and suddenly it registered as delivered.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
Okay. Thanks. Yea hit stopped on Tuesday morning so I'll assume it'll be here tomorrow hopefully.

Random question... So once I charge the battery case and phone to 100 each, do I leave the case powered on and it'll do the rest? Or do i only turn it in on when the phone is almost dead and it charges the phone back up?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] slopokdave:
I'd think you could do either.... You could leave the case powered on and keep your Nexus at 100% until the juice runs out of the ZeroLemon battery, or you could keep the power off until you need it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
I've often wondered this. In their manual for the HTC One Juice Pack, for example, Mophie specifically says:

"If your HTC One is drained of power, the juice pack will immediately begin charging your phone when flipping from standby to charging mode. If your phone is fully charged, the juice pack will act as your primary battery and no power will be lost from the phone’s internal battery until the juice pack is depleted."

However, when a phone nears 100% charged, it starts to trickle charge up to 100% and then stops charging until the phone loses a couple of percentage points, and then trickles up again. So I suspect charging your phone when its battery is low at, say, 20%, all the way up to 100% in a straight shot, is more efficient than just leaving the battery on all day.

Also, it is wise to use discretion as to when to charge your phone. If you're doing a lot of intensive things that make the phone heat up, it's probably best to avoid charging the phone simultaneously, since the battery is likely to get very hot (we all know how hot the Nexus 4 gets, and considering that its glass back will be contained in the case, the heat won't be able to escape as easily). Mophie boasts "built-in short circuit, over-charge and temperature protection allowing you to charge and recharge with confidence." I don't have as much confidence in ZeroLemon making a battery case that can sense when it's getting too hot. It's best to turn the case on when it's in your pocket, not being used heavily, than to risk a reboot or battery damage due to high temperature. The theory of the "red light of death" is that it occurs when the phone reaches a certain temperature and expands two screws that hold down the battery plate, causing the phone to misinterpret the battery state and refuse to turn on. That happened to me once.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BrianDigital:
he means on a AC charger the data pins are shorted together to tell teh phone AC mode and pull current higher than USB

I had to do on a car charger from amazon said 2.0 amp charger plugged phone in charging in USB mode, short the two pins on the inside of the charger and now in AC mode
[Nexus 4 Accessories] leroy_sunset:
So, this is the only external battery case for the N4, correct?

In the opinion of other owners, just better to get a backup battery pack?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
Depends. If using it as just a battery case, I'd be much happier with a battery pack (I really like the ones that have the microusb plug/wire built in). If modding this thing to add a microsd slot....
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Mugen has made a case as well. Its shipping date has been pushed back but you can put in an order on their website. It's 4500mAh and costs $90
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
Finally. It updated and it's out for delivery. So excited. I ordered the white one.. Since I have the white Nexus 4 it only made sense.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] furyoflight1029:
So much wasted space... They could've rounded off the side corners, atleast itd feel better or less bulky on the hands
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
Got it. I love it. I love the size. Like I said, I'm a big guy. WWE sized guy so this is fine for me.

My volume up and volume down don't work... I very to hit them hard over and over again and they don't seem to register but maybe 1 out of 10 touches. I emailed them through Amazon even though they say email them directly. I don't trust anyone and I know Amazon will rectify if they don't answer in a timely manner.

UPDATE

Here's a quick review of the ZeroLemon Battery case for the Nexus 4.... Excuse the quality as I shot it last minute while running on my Galaxy player 5.0 and did a quick edit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3ELnd3QrQ
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Today's charge capacity update: I turned on the case when my phone was at 5% battery. It took exactly 1 hour 40 minutes to recharge to 83% before the case died. I turned on airplane mode during the charging period to control for sync and cell signal battery drain.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] RASTAVIPER:
Hmm why to use this ugly, huge case which destroys the elegant look of Nexus and not use, only when needed, an external battery charger, which start from 4.000mah and they go till much more in quantity.

And they have the plus that they can charge many different devices and 2 of them at the same time.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
After 3 days of use I love it. I went almost 5hrs screen on and non stop use before reaching about 30%. Not using it but a little more than average, no games at all, just Google Current, Google Plus, Facebook and Twitter and Google voice and a few phone games and in doing so lasted 13hrs. Keep in mind I use my phone almost every 10 minutes for something so that's good.

I don't care about the physical and anyone else hung up on it needs some cooch. Seriously though, it's to help you. If you don't want it then nobody is forcing anyone to use it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Do you turn the case on at the start of the day, or do you only put it on when your battery is low?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
My phone is always in the case and the car is on always. Once it died then the phone uses it's battery.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] slopokdave:
I ran my phone down to 15%... Then turned the case on. Got me to 55% before the case's juice ran out. What's wrong here?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
This will sound dumb if you already thought about it, but were you using your phone a lot or did you have it in an area with poor cell service while the case was charging it?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] THEBANDIT420:
lucky xperia z owners

Just looking through the xperia z forum and found a battery case for the xperia z that's $19, 2800 mah and looks quite good compared to this. I wish us n4 owners had one like it. Theres also a xperis z zero lemon case that puts this one to shame.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] slopokdave:
Nope on both.... :/
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
Have you given the case an opportunity to discharge completely at least 5 times?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] slopokdave:
4 times now, I'm not very optimistic about it getting that much better. But I'll give it the chance.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] THEBANDIT420:
Recently got mine and after the 12 he's charging and one use I put my phone in to charge both the case and my phone but it keeps charging for a second the stopping then starting again. Anyone have a similar problem or know how to fix?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ziddey:
What sort of charger? I can't say for certain if an unmodded zerolemon case does this (but from what I remember, it should...), but it sounds like you're using a charger that has the data pins floating? That seems to not work well with the circuitry. A proprietary charger (Apple-compatible) or one that shorts the data pins should work fine.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Freshly_Snipes:
That's exactly the issue. I have a charger that does that... The stock Nexus 4 charger works just fine. All phone chargers may look alike but remember that the USB pins are all different and the charges are different wattages as well. Tread lightly.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] THEBANDIT420:
The issue seems to have resolved itself and all of a sudden (this is my fourth day using it) the case charged my phone from 3% to 96% with airplane mode on and no use at all. Previously it would only charge to about 75%. BTW the charger I was using was the stock nexus 4 one
[Nexus 4 Accessories] badboy47:
that is one fat cookie I mean case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] poyskie:
So is this worth buying. Im gonna buy it but i still might change my mind with your opinions
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Sauveur:
It does the job but be prepared to get a lot of comments on its size