yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
Wrong again, I never said that. In fact, I've been saying the exact opposite.

What I have been saying again and again, but you continue to either ignore or not understand, is that the OS is of course going to show KB/MB/GB in 1024^1, 1024^2 and 1024^3 methods. This is how most if not all OS's, applications, software, etc. represent these larger units of byte measurement. A gigabyte of data is 1024^3 bytes, which is 1073741824 bytes. So when you see that on a 32GB Nexus7, Android shows 26.1GB of total storage in the 'sdcard', that is 26.1*1024^3.

However, storage manufacturers chose to use 1000^X to denote size. So for them, a gigabyte is 1000000000 bytes. Again, not new and common sense to most people. I say "about" simply because that is the truth. You can attempt to use that as some weakness in my argument, but you are just making yourself look foolish. For example, by 2TB external drive (which has ~2000000000000 bytes) shows:

Disk /dev/sdc: 2000.4 GB, 2000

365289472

bytes

2GB:

Disk /dev/sda: 2000 MB, 2000

158720

bytes

80GB:

Disk /dev/sdb: 80.0 GB, 800

26361856

bytes

So again, it is an approximation because that is the answer.

The majority of the complaints in this thread about "Where is all my missing space?!?!?!" is due to this difference in math and confusion regarding how the two measurements work.

So, what I am (and have been saying) is that the "32GB" version of the Nexus7 comes with ~32000000000 bytes of storage, not 34359738368. A difference of over two billion bytes.

If you would like to prove me wrong, by all means go ahead. But at least have the courtesy to understand what I'm saying and not claim I am saying the opposite after I continue to repeat myself.

And for the record, I'm not offended, just aggravated with your constant arguments over your apparent lack of comprehending what I'm saying. If you don't understand something, have the courtesy to ask - not just tell me I'm wrong.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] android1063:
Can You put a micro SD card in the nexus 7? Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
No.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] android1063:
That kinda sucks.lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
Nexus devices almost never have external storage. I believe the only exception was their first phone. Since then, it's on-board only. Google's justification is that external storage is more complicated and can cause issues. But its also fairly obvious that Google wants people to utilize their cloud services (Drive, Play, etc.) for their media, etc.

While I would prefer to have an external storage option, it's not that big of a deal for me. 32GB (even if it is only 32000000000 bytes...) is more than enough for my purposes.

One option is to use an OTG cable to mount a USB flash drive, but that's a bit of a pain.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dexter_nlb:
wrong, you said

thats like saying, i got just about 100% of an amount in my bank, but i can do calculation with just 90% and my approx. interest will be approx accurate when i report my tax.. yes, but why would ANYONE do just about approx. numbers when they know the exact number????

correct, so why mix vendors making harddrive and their logic in ANY of this, confusion makes your calculations even worse.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tiru.adi13:
Only 11.4 on the 16 gig version? Wow. I'm surprised as to how the nexus 4 takes up less space (13 GB free out of the box) for system and partitions and whatever.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] remedya:
I have had external storage on Samsung handsets and all have caused problems. After a time the microSD card becomes unreadable and the data stored thereon is lost. So I agree with Google on this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] afremont:
My wife and I both have had our HTC Incredible phones for almost 3 years with no problems from the flash cards, but we never take them out either.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
*sigh*

Really?

I feel like I am arguing with a three year old.

Ok, let's look at what I said...

What exactly is your problem with this again? Yes, I am saying that the 32GB model would have approximately 16 billion bytes more of storage space than the 16GB model. Are you saying this is incorrect? 32-16=16 as far as I know, but maybe you have some better grasp on arithmetic, so if so, please share with the class. Otherwise, let's move on.

So, we have approximately 16 billion more bytes. And yes, I said approximately because it might be more like 16001269760 instead of 16000000000 and I knew that some smartass wannabe experts would try and say "it isn't EXACTLY 16 billion bytes". Little did I know that I would get even more ridiculous comments about the use of "approximate". In any case, the difference between the two figured above is about .001GB, so if that's such a big deal to you, so be it.

My last statement is that 16,000,000,000 bytes would show up as 14.9GB to the operating system. Are you trying to say that this is incorrect? If so, I would love to see your math on that. Oh, and in case you are wondering, taking 16001269760/1024/1024/1024 is still ~14.9GB, so I stand by my choice of using "approximate". That's what normal people do when they don't want to waste everyone's time with useless specifics that don't impact the results.

So yes, those were the three points I made in that snippet you quoted.

Now, let's look at how you responded, shall we?

I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it's certainly not what I said. In fact, once again and for the last time, I said the exact opposite.

"That would be 16,000,000,000/1024/1024/1024 = 14.901161194 GB."

"you're trying to say ...the 32GB got 1024*1024*1024*16"

Do you not understand English?

Every response you've made since has further ignored what I actually said, attempted to put words in my mouth that I clearly didn't say and were the opposite of what I was saying, and then telling me how I am wrong.

I don't know about you, but I'm done arguing with you about this. I can't tell if you are just trolling or have a learning disability. Either way, I have no more time for you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dexter_nlb:
i would love to have $17.179.869.184 instead of just approx. 16 mil.

but if you wish, send your 16*1024*1024*1024, and ill return approx. 16 mil. back, i believe that is a good deal for me :)

i see now, you suffer from number blindness, so you are excused by your flaming and continued bad math presentation., so sorry!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] .torrented:
16GB total memory on the device... Now set aside for a system partition / data partition / recovery partition / cache partition ect... After all of the partitions are set up and there has been data written to all of them then what that leaves the user is like significantly less storage for personal use... Get over the fact that it isn't 16GB of personal storage...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kearkan:
The variance is normal. Firstly the available space is what is left for your sdcard folder, a certain amount is reserved for system ROM which the user doesn't see (unless rooted)

Secondly, as I believe has been said, nearly every manufacturer calculates the space as 1000mb = 1gb where in reality its 1024.

You haven't been duped at all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dexter_nlb:
only harddrive vendors use that logic, so that is not correct.

AndroidOS uses the proper storage calculation with hexadecimal numbers, but as previously said many times, data/cache/oem partitions are reserved and data/media partition gets smaller due to all the OS required space.

numbers in androidOS settings are accurate and NOT using any 1000mb decimal number logic, if you believe so.

it does not get more correct, no matter how many times phonic and others keep using that logic to explain the difference between a 16GB and 32GB device.

if you are in doubt, read more on powers of 1000 and you should be better informed about the difference.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
That is the third or fourth time you've used the term 'hexadecimal' in your rants. It's unfortunate that you don't realize that you apparently have no idea what it means, right? Because it has no bearing on your faulty argument. Hexadecimal is simply a base-16 numerical system - i.e., a way to represent numbers using 0-9 and A-F, where each digit can reference a value of 0-15. While it is quite often used in computing, it has nothing to do with why storage manufacturers use 1000 and everyone else uses 1024. The latter is more due to binary and the value of 10 binary digits (2^10 = 1024). If you are going to use buzzwords, you should at least know what they mean and how they are (or are not) applicable.

It really boggles my mind how someone with your tenure, post and thank count could be so foolish and ignorant. You keep on bringing up how Android calculates space. What you continually fail to understand is that NO ONE IS DEBATING THIS FACT. No one, especially myself, ever said that it uses 1000 as a base to calculate file size, disk space, etc. Quite the contrary, I've said repeatedly it uses 1024, as this is an obvious fact. I've even given you half a dozen examples about how it will show a GB to be 1024^3. But there is a big difference between what a storage manufacturer says and what the OS shows. The byte count is going to be identical, however how they show represent KB, MB, GB, TB, etc. differ.

You seem to be very out of touch with reality.

By the way, here is a wikipedia entry that I think you should read to "be better informed about the difference":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte

Specifically:

and even more importantly:

So, as I have been saying for the past week, we have (16 or 32)*1000^3 bytes of storage, while Android only sees it, as it should, as ((16 or 32)*1000^3)/1024^3.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] meekrawb:
He still isn't going to get it. Just let him be wrong.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 17mayis:
i just came up with a video on you tube and saw a Rom review calls Jedi X ROM its just amazing one of the best rom ever seen unfortunatlly its only compatible with American version i believe i did some research couldn't come up with anything that if i could install the rom on international version

i wonder whats a reason that the developer for that rom note making one for GT-7100 is it so hard or what ? i don't think there is big different between American vs international version ?

i really digging for that Rom to try out on my Note II

there is a review for the Rom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCEth_A0Fr4
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hariston:
Same thing!!

Looking for one working version of this rom for international model!
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyblake:
Damn it. looks good but a no go for us int. guys. :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mannyvinny:
I saw the review of JediX on HighOnAndroid..looks interesting..moreover it has been awarded rom if the week on their site!

Sent from my AweSoMe ?♥Note2♥?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3vo3d:
It's a great rom and his kernel is fantastic also. It works on the international 7105 so I am lucky.

Why not head over to his forum http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1987634

Share the love and ask him direct?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus_t.html

Nice.

Can anyone extract the cab and upload to ftp for me pls?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Chatty:
Why don't you download it directly from the web page? :shock:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rmg:
Cos it was a tar and not a cab. (no tar unpacker)

But I just renamed it to cab and it worked

Its aces too :-)
[Android Apps and Games] markhussy:
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Please download to appreciate my effort and check promo video for actual view of these wallpapers

Thanks

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copy and paste the links and watch promo video
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TobyW:
I just installed CM 10.1.2 on My Nexus S. The phone performs way better now, but I am having troubles with Bluetooth. I can pair with my keyboard (HP Touchpad BT KB), but it doesn't seem to connect. Likewise, I can pair with my notebook (Win 8), but When I try to connect to the Internet through Bluetooth tethering, the connection doesn't work. Both these things worked on stock JB.

Any advice?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kalitza:
Hi guys.

I've been searching around but didnt find any info about. Is there any way to sim-unlock the Htc One m7? For free i mean, like there is a solution for the s2, s3 or s4.

Thank you in advance.

Cheers
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subhumanderelict:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2314824
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kalitza:
Ty very much!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dragonhart6505:
yes i know there is no official palm section as this is for android, but i need this for my Galaxy Nexus. anyone with a tutorial on how to pull the ha/aaa keys from a Palm Pixi Plus? ive never used one and this thing is complicated!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brooksyx:
What carrier? Would probably just better off buying a cheap used android phone on ebay that is already has a guide on how to pull this info. After you activate the galaxy nexus, just zero all of the network info on the donor phone and re sell it on ebay, and of course note that the phone can't be activated...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dragonhart6505:
verizon pixi plus. my gnex is already activated to ppc, i even have a tutorial on flashing it. im now testing grabbing the keys from a pixi plus i just activated for s&g's so i can grab the keys for my data
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] brooksyx:
Okay, I used to flash several phones to Virgin Mobile but after I switched to straight talk I no longer do that. I have never even used webos so can't help you there.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dragonhart6505:
edit:nvm...im a douche sumtimes
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dragonhart6505:
any help plx?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonathan213:
hi! :) i have the samsung tab 10.1 gt-p7500 3gs

and i want to know...if i turn of the 3gs option and i connect to the wifi...and i want to send text messege..it will cost me extra money? or the tablet can send the message with wifi?

thanks!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RikR:
I think texting is tied to a carrier phone number. I don't think it works on wifi. I can send messages to friends via wifi using Facebook, Google chat, but my wifi only P7510 will not send text to a phone.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexmoi:
i have a 7500 3g and i use it full time as home phone and messenger through my carrier....it goes through the mobile network but doesn't use 3g ( keep in mind i have mobile data closed unless i need to send mms)

but becareful...some mixes of custom rom + voice call app may make it sluggish...i had to go through some trial and testing to get the best match
[XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r4incs:
Hello,

as the title suggests, I am looking for WM6.5 or WM6.5.X Titanium-based ROMs (without Manilla/Sense). I was able to find some (in Xperia X1 ROM's Thread), however, many X1 ROMs links in there are dead. I would be particularly happy if someone can upload Dynamics GT(X) 2.4.0 ROMs.

Thanks in advance.
[HTC One X] cartermg120:
Hi the centre of my screen has decided to stop working?!?!

I think it may be

Screen

Screen connection

Software related (I doubt)

I have used a touch screen app to show where its stopped working. Any one else had this problem?

View attachment 2153788

As can be seen there is a fair size void where it doesn't work!

Any help appreciated

Cheers

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] koenster:
Hi!

I have exact the same problem! After I spilled a little bit of water on my phone this part stopped working..

It is an hardware failure.

This all happened a few months ago, and it's annoying, but I can live with it. If you have to touch this exact part, you can rotate the screen to landscape mode and click the part you want to touch.
[HTC One X] cartermg120:
That's good to no never thought to rotate the screen! Thanks for that :) I havent dropped or spilt anything on my screen so I have no idea how it happened its a bit annoying.

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] JuMp1nGJaCkFla$H:
Hi friend..... your motherboard would have to be changed or the digitizer. Had the exact same issue. If it is under warranty then replace asap....if not ...its costly.... Mine was fixed under warranty.

This was some known issue I believe last year, then it went quiet.

Regards.
[HTC One X] cartermg120:
Cheers I think it may be will have a look, will they get funny about the fact its rooted etc?

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] mr1029x:
Sorry for digging up this old thread, but I'm having this issue 2 times 1 a row. The first time was at the beginning of this year, I sent it to repair under warranty. Everything works perfectly until yesterday, the problem came back again. Any tips or tricks on how to fix it without replacing any hardware? I have ran out of my warranty contract and my phone is rooted so it's gonna cost me if I send my phone to htc
[HTC One X] benjamingwynn:
Bump. I also have this issue with my HOX, I'll report back if I manage to fix it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
Hello all,

This is a straight up compile of Cyanogemod's source. Only thing added was CM Accounts. I have been contemplating whether or not to start this thread simply because I really don't have time to maintain a thread with work, school, and family but since I have not seen a working build posted yet (actually chenxialong has working builds for all jf devices), I decided to give mine. From what I have seen (I have been using as daily driver) CM 10.2 is pretty stable for our devices already.

I compile at least once a day, and usually twice so these builds will be my latest. If there are no significant changes upstream, I will not post a new build. I am really not a coder, although I have a little experience, so please don't ask me to fix things because I most likely won't know how to. Like I said, I am compiling directly from source.

My build names are time stamped as to when they were compiled, right down to the minute (PDT). The Gapps I post are the ones I used. I am not sure which thread I acquired them from, so I am truly sorry to the original poster. I tried many and most were bloated with uneeded apps so I chose this one. If they are yours, please let me know so I can give credit.

This thread will pretty much become obsolete once nightlies for 10.2 are available.

ROM is hosted on Google drive. Any mirrors are welcome.

Full wipe is needed if coming from any other non CM 10.2 ROM. If root is needed, go to Settings-->About Phone-->Tap Build Number seven times. Developer options are now available in settings. Under Developer Options-->Root Access select Apps and ADB.

There have been reports of issues with PhilZ recovery and CM builds. If you are using Philz and have issues, try a different recovery.

Credits:

Cyanogenmod https://github.com/CyanogenMod

TheMuppits (Vendor Files) https://github.com/TheMuppets

Changelog - http://10.2.cmxlog.com/?device=jfltetmo

Gapps - http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip

Gapps Mirror - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6vNNLDt_uoWMlZKSEV3MFl5RUU/edit?usp=sharing

ROM

09-09_2045 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6vNNLDt_uoWT0ViMUdEZWN4ajg/edit?usp=sharing

Old Builds

09-08_1931 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6vNNLDt_uoWckNOUHhEYTA4ZUU/edit?usp=sharing

09-08_0813 - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6vNNLDt_uoWSldmTGhiTDFxQWM/edit?usp=sharing
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrvirginia:
chea buddy :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
Thanks man!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Linkmeup82:
Awesome. Thanks for this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] hitman818:
Seems like root isn't working. When I try to use titanium backup, it says it cant acquire root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
Just added to the OP as far as how to get root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] cytonic:
Gonna give this a try soon. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] hitman818:
Also when I try to restore my apps from tb, it says theres a problem parsing the package.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
I'm sorry for your tribulations, yeah I said tribulations, but I don't really know what the problem might be. I do know that, in 4.3 there is a change that is being implemented as far as how the system handles root and apps that require it. I backed up my apps using the save to a flashable zip option in Titanium. I would imagine that is is still an option even though you are already booted into CM. You can try that. I am also considering using Helium for backups since it will not require root in the fashion Titanium does.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jaestreetss:
In t.b. preferences change the storage location to legacy

SeNt FRoM thE 4th GalaXy of the AnDroid uNiVerSe™
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] hitman818:
I cant find where that setting is. I pressed menu, then went into preferences and I cant find it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrjkrace1:
I use titanium backup and it didn't work on google edition 4.3 so i use helium app to backup and restore for android 4.3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrvirginia:
one of my teammates reported that there's still titanium issues with CM 10.2 even after titanium was updated for 4.3
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheAnarchist1:
Hey Sym! Good to see you went public with these! You are doing a service to the community! Many thanks! :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] cwalker0906:
When I was on Virginia 4.3 ROM I had no problems restoring apps and data with titanium. I keep my backup location always on my external card. Hope this helps.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] boterkaaseneieren:
After installation no boot, black screen.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
Maybe a bad download? It booted fine here.

New build in OP
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] boterkaaseneieren:
Downloading now, camera ok? First build was no boot animation so I thought it was not booting lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sym_Link:
Yeah, camera is fine. In fact it has the new CM Focal camera as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] boterkaaseneieren:
Just flashed it, broken camera and no apn settings. Flashed all today's builds also at fltexx and same problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Wordsmith9091:
I've been googling around and searching the forums here, but I can't find anything that indicates whether the new N7 supports apt-X. Anyone know how we can check?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AacidusX:
Doesn't seem to be listed.

http://www.csr.com/technology-solutions/av/audio-products-powered-by-csr-aptx/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Infod:
This list is incomplete. For instance Nexus 10 has apt-x support but not appears in this list. Is there more accurate info on apt-x support in nexus 7 2013? This is a very important feature for a pccar usage for example.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] crystalstylez:
It does not have aptx support. I have hbs730 headphones and have synced them with the new nexus. If it has aptx the headphones wouldn't allow eq settings. It does allow me to access them so it does not have aptx support like ny s4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Obveron:
Hmm that's too bad. Google could add support with an update, no?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] SPLESH:
The Google have no thing to do with this Nexus 10 is manufactured by Samsung thats why it has aptx support. ASUS does not have contract with CSR and it will be illegal for them to use aptx (but if we can find a lib compiled for android 4.3 or 4.4 then it can be put on some custom rom, also some modifications to bluze lib needed to support aptx codec)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Obveron:
Cheers, thanks for the reply.