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[Android General] RaiderWill:
I Understand Your Reasons For The MeMO 10

1) No Exnor.. The Nexus-7 2013 uses the Newer "Slimport" Technology.. Not MHL.

2) 7" screens are not for everyone.. But the 323 ppi resolution and 50% weight reduction are a godsend and work Much Better for me.. Hauling the MeMO around the house was a bit of a burden.. Now having owned a 7, 8 and 10" display I know 10 inches is more than I want or need for my usage.. another bonus of having Root Access, is having access to the build.prop which gives you the ability to adjust the overall DPI on the fly so if something you are working with seems a little small simply enlarge the application.. I've used this simple tool to rotate my dock back to horizontal from vertical in landscape mode.. in effect, creating my own "Tablet Mode" layout in standard 4.4 KitKat... :cool:

3) When you say you need your Tablet to " Be Functional To Work " I don't know if you are saying you have to use it for work or you've had instabilities with ROM's for your TF device in the past? ROM's based on 4.3 Jellybean are extremely stable on the Nexus-7 2013. ROM's based on 4.4 KitKat may have some issues to be ironed out to be totally stable with all applications.. I don't know which ROM's will work 100% stable with the particular applications that I run on my Nexus-7 2013.. I'm just going to enjoy trying the new 4.4 KitKat ROM"s out there to find out.. ;)

Then there are more conservative ROM's like the Clean ROM as well.. That are enhanced 4.4.stock KitKat.. and that put Stability above all else.. I don't run ROM's for speed enhancement the Nexus 7 2013 is plenty smooth and fast with everything you run that's for sure.. but I enjoy enhancements like "Swipe to Wake" , "One Touch Boot into Recovery" , having a Theme Engine to change the overall look of the Tablet.. TWRP to backup different ROM's.. including the stock image and have of them ready to switch back and forth depending on your mood.. CM 10.2, ASOP, PacMan, Carbon, Clean, All these ROM's have their own unique qualities and enhancements.. one does not have to switch ROM's everyday.. but it's nice to know you can have 5 or 6 ROM's either setup or in their purist form ready to use just waiting on your device.. :cool:

4) It's KitKat... what can I say? Either Stock or Enhanced ROM'ed KitKat it's still KitKat with Google's latest and greatest.. I hope you get your wish for someone.. anyone to figure out the mysteries of the x86 chipset.. maybe, if you start a pool $10.00 a head to contribute to a developer that has some x86 Clovertrail Knowledge and buy them a FHD 10 to develop for you guys... you would need about 30 volunteers.. It's just going to be hard to get someone really talented to work with the MeMO with the Nexus-10 2013 ready to drop.. Most any developer with a passion for 10 inch Tablets will most likely be focused on the new Nexus.. but you never know my friend.. you never know.
[Android General] Exnor:
Did some research on Slimport.. it looks promising.

Yes i have to use my tablet to work sometimes and i need it to be stable (especially when i'm in a remote SSH connection and solving OS problems on other machines... and no other computer at hand) BUT i also add instabilities problems with TF101 stock Roms/firmwares. In fact i was about to quit Asus Tablet devices if was not for this one. The TF101 and 201 series add (and have) a lot of problems, from manufacturing defects to poorly builds of the OS...

I'm a Asus fan but in tablet market they disappointed me... now i'm giving them a 2nd chance. (my wifes Samsung Tab2 does not have any problems nor does my Galaxy Nexus...)

I also use my tablet to do some gaming (Asphalt 8 and BF4 commander mode client only...) and of course 80% web browsing.

So far i hope Asus does not disappoint me again in the near future with OS support or with poorly conceived Android builds...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Exnor.. I agree with the Quality Control issues.. I know here in the U.S. Asus has 1,000's complaints filed against them with the Better Business Bureau for their service and products. And even the new TF701's are shipping with Screen & Dock issues. As you know, my 1st MeMO was a defective unit as well..

I don't know what ROM's are available for your TF series, but the Kang I am running now with an Elemental Kernel is simply OUTSTANDING with ZERO issues.. and I'm overclocked to 1,836 MHz on all four cores.. so things have progressed exceedingly well with Custom ROM"s & Kernels for 4.4 KitKat on the Nexus-7 2013.

Real Racing 3, ShadowGun, Dead Trigger 2, MC4 are what I'm into for my "Heavy" games.. and those are the ones I output via Slimport HDMI to the Big Screen T.V... I have 2 computers with 17 & 24 inch monitors for any Internet reading / browsing.

The key will be how long it takes Asus to update to Jellybean 4.3... or if they *Skip* 4.3 and go Directly to 4.4. KitKat.. and how far behind the Flagship 7 series the updates are applied.. I feel they should update the entire line of products at once.. but since there is fragmentation with Asus having both Tegra 4 chipsets and Intel chipsets in their Tablet lines, there is no way they are going to update each series at the same time.
[Android General] zhanx:
themes

ok since we had root, might as well start on a custom rom ourselves.

To begin with I have stripped out most of the asus bloatware that comes with the rom. But I would like input on any extra's that will be added / removed. After all no else it looks like is gonna do it for us.

Second, themes there are a lot of nice theme's out there. so give input on them after the core is done a theme is an easy change.

And third yes I will keep root.

finally using the US 4.7.3 build for it.

maybe if we get a few roms we can get our own section around here.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Lot's of Samsung Tab 2 Lovin...

Exnor I hope Google Play gives us some deals this year like they did last year around this time.. I remember getting several games for like .99 cents (U.S.) .

Man! there are a lot of ROM's out for your Wife's Tablet as well ! All the popular ones appear to be there... That's Cool.. at least you can grab hers and try out all the ROM's and just hand her the MeMO to do her thing! :cool:
[Android General] kenofs:
A stripped down ROM with root is all I need as I prefer performance over style. Sorry for not being more specific and thanks for taking the time to do this for a great tablet.
[Android General] Exnor:
Yep the Tab2 and Tab3 7inch series (that are inside almost identical :P) have a lot of custom Roms and support but my wife is happy with the stock version so i'm not going to mess her tab lol.

I play with my TF101 and the various roms available.

I dont see any good deals this year from Google :/... last year i got Smart Tools (its really good set of utilities) and Asphalt 7 but this year i already have all the soft i need :/ plus i paid for Asphalt 8 (that is free now!!! and a request a refund but no luck)..

Unless they offer some impressive set of software i think this year i'm not spending a cent (Euro cent lol).
[Android General] RaiderWill:
You know, I bet you could tell the Mrs. you are going to "Tune Up" her Tablet and throw a deodexed, zipaligned stock ROM with a tweaked Kernel on her unit and the difference in speed would make you look like a hero.. ;) Who's ROM are you running on your TF ?

We have a chainstore here that is GIVING away the MeMO Pad with the 1.6 GHz Quad-Core CPu.. The ME102 is only going for $199.00 this Friday & Saturday.. Now that's a deal.. :cool: I would not mind cracking the code on it's 1.6 GHz Quad and pumping it up to 1.8 - 1.9 GHz.. I've got my N7's Quads up to 1,836 max / 1032 min 100% Stable on this Element Kernel which just kicks ass. but to get a 10.1 inch Tablet with a SD Card Slot Stereo Speakers running 4.2.2 Jellybean for only $199.00... Damn.. If I were still in the Market.............. ;)
[Android General] Exnor:
Lol i don't really want to mess around my wifes tab... if i lose any of her savegames i'm dead :P

My TF is on CM10 right now but i've stop playing with it for a while because i don't have time (between work and GTA5 online its difficult to get time loool)

That is an excellent price they are making. Oh and i think this SoC CPU can be OC to 1.8 or even 2.0Ghz like 2580 one. The Atom processors are typically good to OC.

I have a netbook with a Atom N270 that is 1.6 stock but i've OC to 1.9 and its freaking stable and no overheat ... of course battery will drain a lot faster lol.
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Hopefully.. One Day.. Someone will have the skill to create an actual Overclocking Kernel for the x86 Soc in the 10.1... First comes a Recovery.. Then a ROM.. It will be interesting to see what 2014 brings.. and how quickly Asus keeps the 10.1 up to date.. :confused:

I know Intel chips as a whole do overclock well.. I built my computer on an I5 chip and it's stock speed is 2.8 and it overclocks to 3.8 with ease.. Although, I keep it at 3.3 GHz for longevity.. and I keep it Liquid Cooled.. ;)

Something interesting with the MeMO HD 7.. The Code has been cracked and there is now not only Root Access but, Also a Custom Recovery for it... ;) And it seems the very nice performing ( And Rootable) Mediatek Quad-Core 1.2 GHz CPu in the MeMO 7 is now being slowly replaced with a Dual-Core 1.2 GHz Celeron CPu.. I am tempted to grab one of the Quad-Core Mediatek's before this conversion is complete.. It appears Asus is making the switch to Intel.. Fine for Stock use.. but a step backwards if they plan on doing this across the board for their Tablet Line in 2014 as far as Custom ROM's and support go.. it will be interesting to follow. :cool:
[Android General] zhanx:
Ok the rom is stripped down just need to root it and test, but its thanksgiving, so it will wait till Saturday for that. After the stripped rom is done I will look into overclocking it. Hopefully I get time.
[Android General] Koonce:
If you were excited at $199, the Staples $50 off tablets was working on the me102 getting it down to $149. Lets get some people on board with development for this thing
[Android General] zhanx:
Umm that's what i am doing, fyi. I have on HaD a few times and know a bit of code
[Android General] RaiderWill:
If Only...

Hello Koonce.. That's great that you have so much enthusiasm for the Asus MeMO line of Tablets.. :good:

But.. development for the "ME102" and development for the "ME 302" would have to take place in different arenas..

They are completely different devices.. but I agree with you.. and I am not sure where you are located, but it would be nice to see more U.S.A. based development for the U.S. image so those folks on this rock would not have to resort to flashing a "WW". img just to obtain Root Access.. And of course there needs to be development of a TWRP or at least a CWM Custom Recovery as well if Custom ROM's like CM 10.2 / 11.2, ASOP, Carbon, PSX etc are ever to be created for any of the 10.1 Asus MeMO line of Tablets..

They have cracked the Code for the MeMO HD 7.. and now have Root.. A Custom Recovery and a Custom ROM.. :good:

But.. that's with the Mediatek 1.2 Ghz Quad-Core CPu in the MeMO HD 7.. these feats have yet to be accomplished with the x86 Dual-Core Intel Unit in the Current MeMO FHD 10.. although the HD 10 "ME102" has a Mediatek 1.6 GHz Quad-Core CPu as well.. but like the x86 in the current FHD 10.. Development just is not there in the community.. :(

Hopefully One Day.. That may change.

Yes.. The "$50.00 off" on Staples Tablets is what I used to snatch my 32 Gb Nexus-7 2013 for $219.00

The $149.00 that the ME102 will be selling for this weekend is a STEAL if all a person wants is a 10.1 Tablet you can't beat that price.

But.. I have learned 2 VERY IMPORTANT things about myself having owned the 32 Gb MeMO FHD 10 Twice now...and that's that:

1) I NEED 32 Gb of INTERNAL USABLE storage.. the SD Card is neither here nor there..

2) I NEED Root.. TWRP... and ROM's to Flash. My Nexus-7 2013 provides over 20 ROM's & OC Kernels to play with..

So as SWEET as the $149.00 price the MeMO ME102 will be selling for, it has neither the Developer Support or Internal Storage Capacity to fit my needs. :cool:
[Android General] switchgott:
Hi to all,

iam the dev who port the root to our memo pad 10 fhd.

And now, id like to do more :)

But i need more help, because alone its is to hard.

And i have not much time and knowledge about the hole android :(

Think about creating a own custom rom and kernel.

So i need your help!

Together we are better and can make the memo pad better :)

Please, don´t hesitate to contact me.

switchgott@gmail.com

I hope, there are some devs how like to collaboration with me.

Thanks

Bye
[Android General] Exnor:
wow 1Ghz of OC... thats brave. Did you have to OV to? The Joule effect on the semiconductors must be unbelievable... Dont really know if that actually reduces the life of the chip on a way that is noticeable to our life time (assuming that you never let it overheat)... That is a question that i would like to be answered: What is the degradation that the materials suffer by being subject to more electrons flowing on them?

Now on that MediaTek... is that the quad core Cortex A7 SoC? if it is then its not a very good bet... MediaTek still have to prove its a serious player on the semiconductors manufacturing business.

What Celeron cpu? Is there a SoC with Celeron Cores instead of Atom ones? can you share a link please? Cant find any on Intel ARK page.

Funny note: I usually underclock my work desktop CPU (loool) to be able to use passive (and cheap) cooling methods... My current one (Intel T2390 @ 1.8Ghz... yes i use a laptop connected to a 24inch monitor.. it was cheaper when i got it 5 years ago loool... very special price 150 euros brand new :D 5 years ago) i don't OC or Under C but my one of my previous Pentium III 1.2Ghz was underclocked to 1.0Ghz for me to be able to remove the fan and have a quiet media center :P Still works today... running a home firewall... i found that a Raspberry Pi and Xbian do a good job and are a LOT more power efficient and i can fit it behind my TV.

Side note: My current desktop, although its pretty old runs Windows 8 like a charm... in fact it runs better than windows 7 lol. Of course i don't play games on my work computer... for that i have consoles.

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The only way i can help is testing... i'm not a dev :( but you have myne thks for starting this endeavor. ;)
[Android General] switchgott:
Thanks :rolleyes:

My main problem is, i dont know smali code.So this is very hard vor me to code dalvik code.

Getting new kernel is also very hard because of signing it.

CM would be possible but with stock kernel?

I guess iam the only one who like to dev the device :(:thumbdown:

But thanks for your help for testing.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100 mit Tapatalk 2
[Android General] RaiderWill:
1) Yes Exnor.. My I5 chip was of a VERY GOOD yield and actually hit 4,000 mHz but it was unstable and re-booted at that clock speed.. But it was 100% stable at 3.8.. I just decided, outside of benchmarks the difference was negligible as far as how fast programs opened or games played. So.. I just picked a speed that was 100% stable with Stock Voltage as to reduce the Electro-Migration process of the Chip.. It just so happens that speed is 3,300 mHz..

And don't forget.. I'm Liquid Cooled.. not Air Cooled with a fan.. So Heat dissipation is at Maximum and temps are Very Steady indeed.. :cool:

2) Mediatek may not be a "Household" name when it comes to SoC.. but what I'm looking at is, It is apparently more "Developer Friendly" since Developers have now cracked the code and not only obtained Root Access.. but created a Custom Recovery & ROM for the Asus HD 7 so.. That SoC is way ahead of Intel in terms of being more Developer Friendly.. and if a person plays GTA Vice City for example, It's actually Runs it Better on the 1.2 gHz HD 7 than the FHD 10 due to the Quad-Cores.. so it depends on what a person is going to use their Tablet for.. Like I mentioned a couple of post back, The Asus ME 102A is a GREAT Tablet for Surfing the Web, Light Gaming ( Due to having only 16Gb of Internal Space ) Movie watching and Music Playing at only $149.00 this weekend here in the states.. You cannot come close to getting a 10 inch Tablet brand new in that price range..

Believe me.. If I thought I could live with it Stock as it is.. I would turn this Nexus-7 in today, put $70.00 back in my pocket and get it. But I enjoy the ability to customize.. I love playing with the 3 ROM's & Kernels I have now on my Nexus-7 2013 and I have almost 2 dozen more as an option.. I love to "Tinker" with the Tablet I own.. and if the Quad-Core MediaTek SoC in the ME 102 had a Custom Recovery, Root and a ROM at that price point I might live with only having 9-10 Gb's of usable Internal Space.. :cool:

3) The MeMO HD 7 that shows a Celeron SoC is on Amazon..

EDIT: It's nice to know Amazon reads my comments.. :) They have since revised the SoC listed for the HD 7.. So I've removed the link :cool:
[Android General] Exnor:
I was checking the Memo HD7 and its nowhere mentioned on the specs that its as a celeron core for the CPU...
[Android General] RaiderWill:
QUOTE=RaiderWill;47977036]1) Yes Exnor.. :cool:

3) The MeMO HD 7 that shows a Celeron SoC is on Amazon..

EDIT: It's nice to know Amazon reads my comments.. :) They have since revised the SoC listed for the HD 7.. So I've removed the link :cool:[/QUOTE]

Here you go...:cool:

Looks like.. It depends on which MeMO HD 7 you select.. ;) Me thinks, someone looked at the 10.1 and just "Assumed" the 7 inch would be Intel inside as well... Nice to know the 7 still has the Quad-Core CPu.. I find the Quad-Core AMD SoC in the 8 inch MeMO @ $229.00 interesting as well....
[Android General] deltatux:
According to this spec sheet, it has a Rockchip Cortex A9 SoC: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4938&c=asus_memo_pad_8_me180a

Also, the HD 7 has a Mediatek Cortex A7 SoC, not an Intel Celeron, someone screwed up the Amazon spec sheet.

deltatux
[Android General] Exnor:
Here you go...:cool:

Looks like.. It depends on which MeMO HD 7 you select.. ;) Me thinks, someone looked at the 10.1 and just "Assumed" the 7 inch would be Intel inside as well... Nice to know the 7 still has the Quad-Core CPu.. I find the Quad-Core AMD SoC in the 8 inch MeMO @ $229.00 interesting as well....

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lol that Celeron must be an error..
[Android General] gbL420:
HELP!!

can someone please help me find the stock rom for the us build 4.7.3

i tried flashing the rooted german 4.7.3 image but i wasn't able to get root and i was stuck with a german notification panel
[Android General] RaiderWill:
Yeah.. Just thought I would show you that I'm not CrazY ;) It's nice to know there is a $129.00 Rootable Quad-Core option with a ROM & Custom Recovery in the HD 7 :good: I'm liking that 8" MeMO with the Quad-Core Injector for $229.00 as well... Except the White Color of course.. :cool:

I'm hooked on Quads Now.. AT&T a carrier here in the U.S. had the Asus MeMO FHD 10 LTE on sale for $174.00.. but you had to sign a 2 yr contract to get that price... Oh If I could have gotten that with those Sweet Qualcomm 1.5 GHz Quads.... A snap to Unlock & Root and fast.. That would have been the best deal of all.. but .. it was not meant to be... NO CONTRACTS here Cellular or otherwise.. :cool:

It could be Rocketship A9.. It's the Quads that have my attention going forward.. Much better response time opening HD content now that I've owned both.. :cool:
[Android General] deltatux:
Here's the thing, quad core doesn't automatically make a chip faster, in fact my TF201 which comes with a Tegra 3 processor is really slow, it's even slower than many dual core devices out there as well. Just because there's more cores doesn't automatically make them faster. In addition, I/O performance plays a huge role in terms of system performance as well. If the storage and memory can't feed the processor fast enough, you could have 1000 cores and it will still not go any faster. This tablet can be so slow that I can be sitting here for a full minute for the tablet to think for a bit before it handles my input request.

imo, Tegra 2 and 3 were by far the slowest Cortex A9 processors I've ever dealt with. NVIDIA finally fixed the issue in the Tegra 4 but that doesn't help me as I'm stuck with a Tegra 3 in my tablet.

deltatux
[Android General] Exnor:
Yep cores number doesn't mandatory makes a SoC better...

A9 cortex is equivalent to a Pentium 3 @ 900Mhz (compute capabilities ) so not that "powerful" ... even with 4 of them.

Of course specs only have meaning depending on what one needs from this computers. My Gnex is more than enough for me as a handheld computer but for a tablet i need something more powerful....

Sent from Asus MemoPad FHD ME302C
[Android General] RaiderWill:
The merits of "Dual-Core vs Quad-Cores" can be debated at length.. :cool:

I'm just going to state that, having owned the FHD 10 (Twice) and having owned the Exynos Quad-Core Note 8.0 and now the fabulous Quad- Core Snapdragon Pro in my Nexus-7 2013 I personally find the refinement of Quad-Core implementation in my device preferable.. :cool:

I don't know how we drifted to this based on my just pointing out what I seen on Amazon but.. since we are here, we are here..

All I know is my Nexus-7 2013 is Extremely Fast @ 1,836 Max / 1,026 Min running KitKat 4.4 and everything fires up quicker than the Z2560 implementation SoC. Even back when I was at stock speeds.. And,. I have not seen any video reviews of the Flagship 2,000 MHz Intel Z2580 SoC that would change my mind as well.

I just feel the Modern Day Quad-Cores are the better choice for me.. and let's just say my Nexus-7 2013 only Reinforces that feeling. ;)
[Android General] deltatux:
I just remembered, does anyone know if this root procedure work on other Intel based tablets? I know the Dell Venue 7/8 use the same chips as this tablet but I can't find information to extract the system partition and install the x86 su binary...

Like this tablet, the bootloader is already unlocked as well. I'm going to see if Dell posted any recovery images...

Cheers,

deltatux
[Android General] Exnor:
Of course we are not going to debate with is better on paper lol.

The fact is ARM based are way better implemented than x86 for Android... and that might not change for a year or two or never :/

BTW: the new Flaship SoC from Intel is the Z3770 http://ark.intel.com/products/76760/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z3770-2M-Cache-up-to-2_39-GHz :P

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So far i can't find any root method... But if you flashed the German version you should be able to change the device language...

i wish some dev pic up this model and give us some support...