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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
Initial thoughts:

The weight reduction - while seemingly not that significant on paper - can really be felt when handling the tablet. I didn't expect it to feel lighter in my hand(s) but it definitely does. Also has a nice solid/quality feel.

Speed & fluidity of the tablet in general is better than the original N7, but to be fair the original N7 I have (only about a week old) is very speedy. I'll be playing with more apps during the day to see if that holds true.

The included USB data/charging cable is too short IMHO - just like the original. The actual charging wart is different than the original, but about the same overall size.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] compuguy1088:
Does it have pogo pins by chance (for a dock)?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thenrik:
Hi:

Does it support OTG and Nexus Media Importer?

Thanks,

Tom
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] BoneXDA:
Nice! Can you put it next to the old & your phone at 100% brightness? White image:

http://en.clipdealer.com/preview/im...creen closing. Alpha channel is included..jpg

Also, for light bleed check, here's a pure black:

http://www.fimfiction-static.net/images/story_images/92970.png?1364253348
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ejchis:
I haven't seen this specified anywhere yet, but I'm curious if there is haptic feedback.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
Unfortunately it does not.

That is the one feature I have found so far that I really appreciated on the 1st gen that isn't on the new version. :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Aria807:
I think we need a new subforum for the 2nd gen Nexus 7. Also cases... where to buy D:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
UPDATE: The 2nd gen supports both OTG and Nexus media importer.

If it does it's off by default. It check to make sure.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TheGreatGonzo:
Just walked into my local Best Buy and was able to buy it - no pre-order needed.

They had two cases available in the store @ $24.99 and $39.99.

Started it up and it immediately updated to 4.3.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
$30 off coupon at staples works! I got the only one they had.

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tbonezx11:
Why did you like the pogo pins? I've never seen a dock for the original N7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
There is/was a dock available for the OG N7 - it was just VERY difficult to get a hold of one. It was listed on the US Google Play store until about a week ago.

I picked up one from B&H and one from Amazon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] endiz:
Please confirm if it has a virbration motor. I'm planning on replacing my phone with this model so having vibration for notifications is make or break for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] smirkis:
just checked the website and it says IN STOCK READY FOR PICKUP TODAY. so i went ahead and paid for it but my local bestbuy doesn't open until 10am PST. ready to head over as soon as they open!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vnangia:
No vibration motor, sorry. You might be able to get this + a Pebble?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] JaZart:
Would you say it's worth paying 230-280+ for the upgrade. I REALLY want one but can't justify it done since my current nexus 7 is fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Its more like a $130-$180 upgrade since you could sell your current one for $100.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fatboypup:
Here ya go just got mine on amazon like a week ago lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vnangia:
Depends on what you're looking for. If you're a huge multi-tasker and/or have a habit of leaving apps open, you'll see a tiny boost in speed. If you're unhappy with how slow the Nexus 7 becomes over time, then perhaps the new Nexus 7 will not slow down - but you can get away with just shelling of $0.99 for Lagfix Premium and scheduling a weekly run. If you're in need of a rear-facing camera on the tablet, then definitely worth the upgrade. The screen is gorgeous, but I didn't mind the one on the original N7 much either.

So it really depends. If you want it, get it, and perhaps sell the old one for $100-120 to make up the difference. Otherwise, perhaps skip?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 513:
Hi,

Could you confirm Miracast is included ?

As it's the same SoC as the Nexus 4.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] djkinetic:
Better screen, more RAM, and better CPU...Definitely worth the upgrade for me, I have one of the first batch Nexus 7's from the initial play store shipment when it was launched last year, Its been great, but the screen really shows its age, I'm pretty spoiled with the 1080p display of my one, so for me the screen alone was enough to get me to pull the trigger on the upgrade.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] JaZart:
The current screen is just fine to me but the RAM and CPU upgrades are tempting. I'll probably wait a week or so to see if there are any issues with it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trimalchioinwestegg:
Lol, I went to Staples last night, had them save a 32gb for me in the front, and when they went to ring it up it was $10,000 in the computer. I joked with the girl that I was going to have to move some money around. They wouldn't do an override, so I went next door to bestbuy and preordered. In a minute I'm going to pick it up on my lunch break.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] patso23:
I just picked one up myself.

Wondering if anyone has been daring enough to attempt root? I wanna get rid of hangouts and go back to google talk quite badly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dwd3885:
just picked one up at Wal-Mart. They had 16s and 32. Best Buy didn't have any yet. Though other BBs in the area do have them.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] macaumen:
I will be picking up mine after work =]
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dwd3885:
Side note, I'm really excited Best Buy is selling the Nexus 7 now. It should help sales immensely.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Itchiee:
Thank you!

After reading your post I was inspired to go to my local BB, and as I was walking over to the tablet area they were stocking about three bins of them for sale.

I said my man can you hand me a 32gb please...thx.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tbonezx11:
Seriously?!?! Damn! I have wanted one for a long time & then quit looking. UGH. Ebay, here I come!

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Dude! Awesome. Thank you. Just bought one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] oneandroidnut:
Did the exact same thing at 7 am! already picked up on lunch!! :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] geoldr:
I picked mine up this morning at Best Buy. WOW! This thing is very nice. I had the original Nexus 7, but the bezel is much smaller, and the device is so light!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] LauraSakura:
I'm hoping root is available soon so I can restore titanium backups from my original N7. Charging it now, but when I get home from work I'll unlock the bootloader and download some games to see how much better performance is. If it works as well as my Nexus 4 I'll be very happy!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] overlord727:
I just picked up two from best buy today! Arundel Mills in MD has them if anyones wondering.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rushless:
Yep, I want it for OTG use with NTFS storage and to hide the fixed navigation bar. Wonder when there will be a root update for the N7 2?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] threelions:
For those of you that have it I know it's early but hows the build quality seem?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
I'd say it's as good as or better than the original. I'd like to note that I have two other Nexus 7's (Original Generation) to compare and they both are flawless. I know that wasn't true of 100% of the 1st version devices but I have been lucky with them.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jeremiah_1988:
Got my nexus 7 via GameStop
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] scream4cheese:
Got mine early @ Best Buy this afternoon.

16GB WiFi model. $250 after taxes
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Red Wolf:
canceled my best buy order, and ordered on amazon getting it tomorrow :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
A little more information about the my device:

I tested Wifi using both Speed Test and Wifi Analyzer. Signal strength and download/upload speeds are the same as the OG N7's and my Acer A700. I only have a single 2.4GHz band router so I can't test the 5GHz band.

I REALLY like the notification light. Funny how something so small can have a big impact on one's enjoyment of a device. :cool:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trimalchioinwestegg:
I must say that I am extremely happy that they have improved the speakers. I use my tablet to watch Netflix/downloaded torrents and listen to Spotify. The original Nexus 7 was **** in that regard, but this is vastly superior and may even be better than the iPad mini's speakers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] threelions:
Good to hear I had one bad, one great last time. Just hoping for people to post some photos and videos not available in the UK for a while so need my Nexus porn fix lol.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] MMakoto:
anybody with a wireless charger that can comment on the wireless charging function? i'm thinking of picking up a sammy wireless charger for the new N7, but wanna make sure that it would work with other qi wireless chargers. tia
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Red5:
Just got mine from BestBuy. 32 gig model. Im quite pleased with it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] LauraSakura:
I have a qi charger, so I'll try it and let you know. I'm not sure my charger is big enough though, it's a really small disc
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] MrsKravitz:
Thanks! I just ordered online, used the online shopping version of the same coupon, should arrive Monday. They aren't yet listed in stock in my area's B&M stores. I bet they are being unpacked right this moment at the nearby branches, but I'm not sure I have time to pass by.

<Commences impatiently drumming fingers on desk.>
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] compuguy1088:
I have the energizer qi charger. I'll make sure to test it out tomorrow when my tablet arrives.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] JHaste:
with the device laying flat, its a bit of an annoyance because the button to turn it on is on the back part of the rounded edge so you have to lift the device up slightly to feel for it... will take some definite getting used to...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] slyr114:
bought from bestbuyt first but returned it when i found out my gamestop also had them instock since i had a 66 dollar gift card to gamestop. I also just sold my old one for 160 so its pretty much a 20/30 dollar upgrade!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] _Nikon_:
Is there any info on the output impedance on the 3.5mm jack?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
Hmm...does it have the magnet to turn it on and off with a smartcover like the last gen?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] JHaste:
i dont have a smart cover so i dunno... just waved a magnet (though not a very powerful one) over and on the screen and it didnt do anything :/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Simer03:
I just picked mine up from Best Buy and I have to say, this is a big time upgrade over the OG 7! There is no lag or hiccups anywhere! Can't wait to play with this more and see what the devs can do!! Also can't wait til I get home to see how the nexus 4 wireless charger works with this!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fosser2:
I also picked mine up at best buy today. I am currently writing this from the new nexus 7. I can say right off the bat, it's lighter easier to look at. The speakers are a huge improvement and the addition of wireless changing is awesome. E

I just tried it out and it works flawlessly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rmkilc:
Yep, connected my Canon Camera and the gallery popped up showing all the pictures, and an import button.

It has the wireless display option, unlike the original Nexus 7. I assume this is Miracast.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] xedualMCx:
I'm so excited! Just got the last stock at bestbuy (usq-ny)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fix-this!:
how are you guys getting yours? best buy has them but won't sell until the 30th. now staples cant sell them either. i can't even order online. kinda ticked as i want to use that $30 off coupon.:crying:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] juicejuice:
I walked into Best Buy here and they tried to give me that crap too. I said their web site was showing available and could they check the system. It came up available and they checked with the manager then sold it to me. Easy :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trimalchioinwestegg:
Pay online with store pickup, then they will bring it to the front of the store and sell it to you. Then you won't have to deal with anyone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fix-this!:
Yeah but you cant even order on staples.com right now. I want that $30 off.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] richB7:
My online order at bb went to backordered this morning. Checked local stores (Houston) and many had 16gb but only one had 32 so reserved a 32 and canceled online order. Got email the purchase was ready to pick up. Went in and they couldn't find the 32gb but had several 16. Had to leave and decided to give them some time. Two hours later no 32 so I called main number and got $30 gift card but still no 32. Waited some more and went back and got the last 16. Figure I can live with 16.

$30 off is okay plus 5% for using reward zone card. I like it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lancez:
I checked my online pre order early this morning and showing backordered too, but after couple of hours it's showing my order is being processed and will ship within 1-2 days. Hopefully best buy will not screw this up.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fix-this!:
yup bestbuy wont give me it until the 30th and they don't price match a staples coupon. i called staples and they are out of stock. i guess ill just wait awhile to get one. need root anyways.

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im seeing the nexus 4 fiasco all over again. seems only a few people actually got their tablets.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lancez:
Yep, it was one of the reasons I'm still using my galaxy nexus now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kpa2727:
Did store pickup at 10 am by 2 pm I had my tablet in hand. I decided to go 16 gig. I have the 16 gig now and never maxed it since it's my gaming tablet. I'm in the middle of setting up now atm.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lancez:
I hate you :screwy:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kpa2727:
Oh yea chromecast was avalible at my Best Buy but got sold out by the time I got there. then when I got home I got a email that best buy Shipped mine. it was in ohio as of last night. they emailed me my Netflix 3 month. BY THE WAY TO EVERYONE WHO GOT IT AT BEST BUY. Check your email they gave me a year free of Webroot AV with my purchase of the nexus 7, they emailed it. I'll never use it but some might want it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fceeviper:
I got mine today as well via BestBuy, so exciting I thought I would have to wait till Tuesday to get it.

I can't wait to play with this thing! :cool:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] demandarin:
There's a good chance I might grab one tomorrow. I called and there's less than 5 32gb versions left at location near me. Chromecast is sold.out. those.things selling like hotcakes. Nexus7 seeming to sell.fast also.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] aooga:
Got mine at best buy too. Compared to the Nexus 4 launch, this is MUCH better. Its great and wireless charging is awesome (I built a nightstand with a wireless charging portion, its pretty cool, just put it on the table and it charges). The only thing I wish it had was a charging LED. I'm checking to see if lightflow works.

EDIT: YES, lightflow works. I'm happy now :) But its only one color.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kpa2727:
If anyone's in the NJ area my store in East Brunswick just got 30 of them in.

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Yea it was insane I found it on the play store hesitated for a few min decided to buy Chromecast by the time I finished entering my credit card I got a error, reloaded and said sold out. I check my BestBuy and there were none in stock then the next day they got 7. I ordered mine later the day it was announced. I was bummed we got sold out before I could get one in store but then I got a shipping notice later that day. It still beats play stores August 7th release date. Ups says july 29th the latest for arrival, Chromecast is still avalible on Best Buy's website but i'm sure it will be gone soon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] teh roxxorz:
Well, I'll join the club of 'got mine early.' You'll be seeing moar of me gents, and lady gents. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] keijikage:
The bestbuy near where I work (riverdale nj) had a stack of 16 32 gb Nexus 7's during lunch today.

I'd have to say that the stock situation is a lot better than the N4 and original N7 launch.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Seems like east coast has zero issues with stock.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] johnny15:
Picked mine up last night at my local BB. Nice build quality. Feels really smooth. Now....to find a case.... :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Red Wolf:
Amazon delivered it today, it so nice. So far loving it :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] paratwa53:
So does HDMI work over the usb port? If so, how well?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nicthemartian:
OTG Adapter

If using an OTG adapter can you connect a usb keyboard, without requiring root?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rmkilc:
Yes. Works great!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Albinoman:
Just got mine from GameStop! Perfect tablet!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Blades:
Got mine today at TigerDirect (formerly CompUSA). No, I don't know why they changed the name from CompUSA to that of an exotic pet store. It seems like the kernel source has been out for a while. Let's get this thing oc'd to SGS4 clocks. Sadly, Chrome still performs like its a damn slide show from time to time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] roxanna77:
first 20 hours....

Nexus 7 (2013) first thoughts

:confused:Did not come with any charge on the battery. - weird

:confused:Could not register on Asus site, sez serial number is wrong.

:good:Size and weight, feels much smaller and lighter

:confused:shows only 26.11 gb total storage... old N7 shows 27.58 total storgae...

:(All plastic bezel

:good:Stereo sound is much better

:good:Volume button and power button are father apart

:good:it's F A S T!!!!!

:confused:Google Earth crashes 100%

:confused:XDA site will not work from the Google browser.

And, still not happy about them changing the form factor, and not the name. Accessory shopping will be a pain. Also, selling new ones? If I bought a nexus 7 4 weeks ago, I think I'd be calling it the "new" nexus 7 ;)

~Roxy

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eep2378:
For Xda browsing change the layout on XDA. Scroll to the bottom of any page, bottom left corner select one of the other layout options and see what works best.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] johnny15:
Since you have been reporting that OTG is working for you, do you have the 16GB or 32GB N7 II? I tried this with two different OTG cables and using the Nexus Media Importer app. It reads the usb thumb drive for a second and then flakes out.

Wondering if I got a dud.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thenrik:
Hi:

I have the 32 N7 II and can confirm that it's working flawlessly for video streaming, slideshow, et all as well as file copying/moving with fat32 flash drives. It works exactly the same as on my gen1 Nexus 7. Make sure you have write enabled in preferences and test your OTG cables on another tablet. BTW, Vplayer is the only video app working with 4.3--VLC, Dice, MX etc. are all incompatible at the moment.

Tom
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] johnny15:
Thanks for the reply. I've used the same cable and thumb drive on my OG N7 without issues. Also tried my external hard drive which also worked all the time without issues and both disconnect after 2-5 seconds and go through a loop where it reconnects/disconnects.

Guess I'll be exchanging mine...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thenrik:
Hi:

One last try: open NMI without any OTG cables connected, go to preferences, connection delay and try a few different settongs--a long shot but worth a try before you exchange.

Best,

Tom
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] californiarailroader:
TigerDirect has been selling via catalog and the web for a LONG time, they bought the rights to the CompUSA name when that company went belly up, CompUSA is like Montgomery Wards now, just an online and catalog presence, with no physical stores of infrastructure.

http://www.wards.com Montgomery Ward
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] roxanna77:
Google Maps and Earth keep making mine reboot and or lock up. Tried a reset from the settings menu., no change. tried to run from the Recovery consul (power+vol down), when I do, it shows the Google logo for a bit, then error "No command found"

Starting to think I have a bum unit... Thinking I should get exchanged

~Roxy

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Gareee:
Coming from a galaxy s3, I was surprised that the tablet had no flash at all.

So far I'm loving it as my first tablet, but picture quality seems a bit grainy or noisey, and the camera fc on me once, and caused a reboot.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thenrik:
Hi:

Just to be sure I tested Google Earth and Maps without a hitch on my Nexus 7 2013. Before you return your unit, you might try uninstalling and reinstalling the updates on both apps. A long shot, I know.

Tom
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] roxanna77:
I took it back. They didn't have the 32gb so I got the 16gb version and forty dollars back. I'll invest that in a wireless charger.

This tablet is much smoother than the other, and Google maps works :) no crashes!

~Roxy
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Gareee:
I'm surprised anyone would want the 16 gb version. Just installing the standard apps and a few games I have on my Galaxy s3, and taking some pics and a few 1080p movies, on the 32 gig I'm already down to about 18 available. Granted, I can dump the videos on the cloud, but some I'll want on the tablet to show off.

That's why the default video camera is set to 720p, so conserve space. But lets face it, if you can record 1080p, why would you drop down unless you had serious space limitations?

(Also, fwiw, the video looks better at 1080p on the tablet than the 720p on the galaxy s3, BUT the still images on the Gs3 look better because they are 8 megapixel instead of only 5.)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] roxanna77:
I know what you mean, but I looked at my 'old' 32gb 2012 nexus 7 and after 8 months I still had 18gb free (from 27.1gb total), so I figured with cloud services like dropbox I'd be fine with 16gb. We'll see how that goes. Right now I have filled it with all the music and apps I want and still have 7.6gb free.

~Roxy
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Gareee:
We frequently have little or no service (up in the western NC mountains) so I can't rely on downloading from the cloud when I want to play music or videos we've shot. Plus I don't want my smartphone data use going through the roof.

My plan is to keep most my music on my smartphone (galaxy s3 with 16 gb and a 32 gb card). And yep, I've gotten almost full on my sd card on the sg3... my 80's music playlist alone is 3 gb.

I can see though if you have unlimited data or wifi always available that 16 gb might be fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Raygray123:
i just need a friend who works at walmart
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Blades:
Thats not true. Unless I walked thru a wormhole and into a physical TigerDirect/CompUSA. Which would be awesome.. but not likely..
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] californiarailroader:
Tiger Direct does have a handful of physical stores, but like I said the old CompUSA is gone, like Wards. I have never been in a Tiger store, so they could have slapped up CompUSA on one, since Tiger did buy the the CompUSA name when they went out of business.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
UPDATE 08/05/13: I've been using this tablet for over a week now and it's still as impressive as it was on day one. My wife kept wanting to borrow mine so often that I ended up purchasing one (16 GB version) for her as well.

I have also purchased a LG Electronics WCP-300 Wireless Charging Pad for her tablet and so far it works great. :cool:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mathieulh:
It has Qi Wireless charging + bluetooth; who needs pogo pins nowadays ?