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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Funkym0nkey:
I just received by 2 nexus 7 thanks to family members who were able to pick them at best buy before coming here this morning and both have gorgeous display. Yes it is not as blue as old N7. But it is more natural. More close to sRGB picture quality I get on my Dell U2410 monitor.

The main issue with iPad4 display was horrible bleeds. I had to get my parent's iPad4 replaced twice to get acceptable model.

What I used to see on my One X was too yellow. This is definitely not close to anything like that. It might be lottery, but do for all units seems to be from JDI.

From my Galaxy S4 Exynos, in your face.....
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jayochs:
unfortunately, that's all electronics today. it seriously seems that there can be such differences between every single device of the same exact model nowadays. it sucks.

btw, I don't notice yellowing, but my screen is a tad bit warmer than the original nexus 7, which I'm very happy about because even after turning off the nvidia color thing on the old 7, that screen was way too washed out in terms of whites and stuff. was annoying to look at. this being a bit warmer looks so much better
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] quidnunc:
It's good to hear about the brightness. Maybe now I can use a tablet next to the pool without putting a bunch of umbrellas up to make a dark shade.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
No one can accurately compare iPad4 screen to N7FHD because of the screen size difference.

Same reason when comparing the best televisions. Same or similar size must be used to compare at similar reference contrast and brightness, otherwise the larger screen always has unfair advantage.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] boodies:
lol, considering samsung makes their own stuff. but yeah, nice tablet this n7 is really good for it's price.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] androidfr33k:
Totally agree. My wife has the iPad4 128gb model and I have the N7 2013. The screen color and resolution on the N7 is better to me at all angles. If only they made Real Myst for the android. I could never do away with development on the Android ever, and that is the main reason I bought it. With the iPad you have to JB and most times that will give you problems. The iOS7 looks good but its back to development. With iPad etc the bootloader will always be locked except for some earlier models.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kingofthebraves:
What about a nexus 7 vs nexus 10 display comparison?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Rahav Griffith:
It's not realistic to compare since Apple and Samsung make different screens, I felt N7 is better when I got acustomed to it after days.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Good point
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eyecon82:
True. After having a s4 with true blacks it was hard to get used to a lcd display
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Qbancelli:
Eh? NO. That title goes to the Nexus 10.

Higher resolution and PPI.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
when you compare them on paper, yeah.

in reality every device is a lottery. nobody does proper calibration to save money (although they claim they do). the 1st N7 was just piss poor and unacceptable affair, you had to go through 10 units to find a good screen and i'm not sure if the situation is any better with the new N7. don't go by any stats or reviews (because the reviewer is a victim of the same lottery), compare the screens to other devices and make your own assumptions if you can live with yellow tint, boosted greens, bad contrast etc. all those settings affect overall look and perception so don't settle for less, keep on exchanging until you're satisfied to show those companies that it's time for them to wake up and do something because well, tablets are all screen.

btw, ironically the best screen quality control i've ever seen is on MS Surface. they all have very even, white nice screens ha.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] klov:
With my iPad 4 and N7 FHD sitting side-by-side, I can say the panel quality is very similar.

Color gamut is a bit wider on the Ipad (at least as far as I can tell without a technical measurment) but black levels, contrast, and viewing angles are almost identical. In fact, I'd say the N7 has an even lower black level than the iPad.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] turdbogls:
just as a background, i use the galaxy Nexus every day....and used the OG Nexus 7 for the past year.

the new N7's screen was the biggest "wow" factor to me.

the blacks are Great, not OLED great, but the best i have seen on an LCD panel

color reproduction is pretty close to my brothers iPad. the difference was negligible to my eyes.

viewing angles are fantastic.

keep in mind this uses the same screen tech as the iPhone4s/5 does. so you are basically getting that screen, but in 7"

this panel really is amazing. best one i have used to date...and that does include the iPad 4 and Nexus 10 screens.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dimethyl:
My Nexus 7 has a lower black level than the iPad, but I wonder if it's overly exaggerated. I posted a thread about it here.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nehi:
No comparison at all... N7 wins out
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] turdbogls:
seems the N7 sufferes from the same problem the Galaxy nexus did when it was first released. its not as bad thankfully, but something should be done about it. the problem isn't there any more on the G-nexus so we know it can be fixed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] okEric:
I'm very happy with my nexus 7's display. With that being said, I hate how in this day and age we have to play a "display lottery" to get a display we're happy with.

I went through 3 MacBook airs before finally returning for refund because I wasn't happy with the display and some other weird issues. My 2008 MacBook'a screen looked better than the air's IMO.

Anyone know what the deal is, is it because of multiple manufacturers supplying the displays and not having the same quality?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] SonicTab:
My iPad 4 beats the Nexus 7v2, very easy to see.

The Nexus 7v2 has light bleed at the top, and it's brightness is not uniform, and lacks contrast on web pages.

The last point maybe a Chrome vs Safari rendering issue but pages like google lack contrast compared to the iPad 4, making them harder to read.

The iPad 4 also can reach a lower brightness level which I find more useful than the max level where the N7v2 wins by far.

It's always the luck of the draw but my iPad 4 screen is flawless, will never sell that one, I've had other iPads that had issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
that's exactly right. poor calibration and contrast make even the sharpest screen like on new Nexus look bad and unexciting.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] SonicTab:
Right now my Note II and iPad 4 both top the N7v2 for readability , its easy to see.

Hoping to find some 3rd party apps or settings to resolve that but out of the box,

google is not taking advantage of the pixel density at least for my eyes.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
the only hope here if Asus/Google left color controls exposed on the kernel level (like LG did for N4) so the developers could take advantage of it with custom kernels but considering 1st N7 story, we shouldn't get our hopes too high.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] blackhand1001:
The nexus 7s display is better. The. Nexus 10 had washed out colors and the same off angle glow that the first generation nexus 7 had. I hope the refreshed nexus 10 has the same improvements as the new nexus 7's screen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gothicasshole:
Hard to tell twi differant oems they need to make a moto nexus 10 imagine the quality of a moto xybord with with updated specs as a nexus :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
there's no correct answer to that question. it's a display lottery so you can get a "better" screen on any of those.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Saturn1217:
Can anyone else confirm this. Or at least compare to the 2012 Nexus 7. Does the 2013 Nexus 7 not get as dim? When reading in the dark (which tablets excel at) it is really helpful to dim the brightness a lot. I always found that the 2012 Nexus 7 didn't get dim enough to comfortably read in the dark. I always needed to use screen filter apps which I suspect don't actually reduce brightness but just reduce contrast making you think the brightness is lower.

Just curious.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] RojasTKD:
Yes, it was and is horrid with my Asus tablets, FT101 (dead) and TF300 (currently have). Nice devices, but at times the become VERY FRUSTRATING.

The New Nexus 7 had had no such issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] klov:
That's black crush (gamma set too low) which is software-based. Black levels, on the other hand, are based on the actual physical ability of the panel to black the backlighting.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
That is because you are used to Samsung I see. They are all so super saturated. :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kingofthebraves:
How can the note 2 top the nexus 7 2? It's screen is so dim and low resolution. Even the new galaxy phones have a brighter screen with tft
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dimethyl:
Sure, I have an iPad Mini and my brother has the original Nexus 7 so I took some pictures at minimum brightness.

Attachment 1: Nexus 7 2012 (left) vs Nexus 7 2013 (right)

Attachment 2: iPad Mini (left) vs Nexus 7 2013 (right)

So yes, it is a bit brighter at minimum than the 2012 N7. The iPad Mini goes the dimmest.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
Could be! By the way, get the app called "screen filter" and any android device will get as dim as you want.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
again, nobody should be comparing anything just by looking at specs. if you want to see real difference between the screens (the ones you have in your possession that is) put them against each other displaying the same material. Dimethyl's pictures are great example of what is wrong with Nexus screen in general: green/yellow push, overblown brightness and badly set contrast. you're playing the lottery with those settings and overall look of your screen (perceived sharpness, scroll blur, deeper blacks, etc) greatly depend on them.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] blackhand1001:
I just tested it as I have both and the new nexus 7 can go slightly dimmer than the 2012 nexus 7. It also doesn't have the flicker issue at low brightness that the 2012 model has.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] aberchonbie:
In really excited about the screen on the new nexus.. Very pleased!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jayochs:
if you have an issue with low brightness, get screen filter.

and whoever says the note 2 screen is better is nuts. that screen looks like ass compared to anything out now, especially the gs4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jayrod1980:
Actually the n10 is higher resolution but lower PPI. The n10 is 299 PPI and this is over 300. The only thing the n10 has better is faster I/o, vibration, more dedicated ports (mini HDMI, mag charger, usb 3.0), and a flash on its camera. This tablet has almost the same battery life and a more vibrant screen with little to no light bleed. Plus overall it seems faster and the GPU doesn't bog down or run out of ram like the n10. The n10 has screen issues too because the chassis is way too flimsy for the screen size. The whole tablet bows from the weight of the screen which causes light bleed spots on the device. I know this because I still have mine and have gone through 7 of them trying to get a perfect one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eyecon82:
Exactly the reason why I got rid of my note 10.1. It creaked like an old car every time I held it. Makes it feel really cheap.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
i don't like the stock color settings, too dim is nex7 default colors better then ipad mini stock coloers?

is there gamma or color calibration, nexus display control works on this nex7?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] otto_di2:
Check your IMEI number ....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
So, I know that people are comparing the S3 to the S4 and why one should spend the extra money on a S4 if they don't already have an S3.

I'm not gonna argue against the fact that the S4 is a better, faster phone. However, as I'm nearing my upgrade date, I'm comparing the two phones to see which phone I would be happier with.

There are a few factors that have helped me make my decision. The most prevalent being the price. For the price of the S4 and what you get, the value is outstanding. Just looking at all of the tests and reviews comparing the two phones, the S4 is clearly the winner. But, how important is $100 to me when throwing it into a phone that edges out its still powerful predecessor? Let's face it. The S3 is still an awesome phone and has a lot of support and life left in it.

If I was comparing an S2 and S4, I would clearly go for the S4, or if the 3 only had 1gb of ram and slower processor.

As far as pixel density is concerned, I will not notice a difference. Same goes for 720p vs. 1080p, which may be the same as pixel density, but not a big issue for me.

The main reason I'm getting the 3 instead of the 4 is because I have other things to spend my money on and the 3 is still pretty awesome and a huge step up from my slow DX2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DROID3R:
Wait and grab the note 3.

2-yr contract price:)

299.99 8GB Version

349.99 16 GB Version

399.99 32 GB Version
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shahkam:
My suggestion is if you're going to upgrade because you have a contract better go for the latest phone i do understand it might be more expansive but it's well worth IMO..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Maphack:
Uh, try upgrading to the s4,sell it, buy an s3, profit

Imho

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cindylike24:
Those are the exact reasons why ai upgraded to the S3 instead of the S4 when I upgraded from the Droid Bionic last month. By the way, this is definitely a solid phone and I haven't regretted my decision or wished that I had upgraded to the S4 once. Here's what I'm doing with the money that I ended up saving. I bought a couple of accessories for my new phone and I believe that I may have used the rest to spoil my nephews and my new little niece.:)

Cindy
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 0xScott:
Check out dkp. This kernel is only available for the S3. This alone, in my opinion, makes it better than the S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] andybones:
Let's not forget this phone has an unlocked bootloader

the s4 most likely will NEVER have one, and a developer edition is your only option.

ATM you can only root the new sg4. no custom recovery. no custom roms.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] thesoldier:
Only if you got screwed with the new OTA then yeah (which seems to be a lot of people). I'm reading through the bounty thread multiple times a day crossing my fingers though!

And I would definitely upgrade to the s4, sell it, then buy an s3. That could net you a good $200-$300 profit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] PaulG1488:
Bingo... I would not waste an upgrade and not get the latest phone either hold off for something else or get the s4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gmanvbva:
Buy a S3 off Ebay or CL. No since eating a upgrade for a phone you can get for $200 w/o contract
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] PsiPhiDan:
I've always had great luck with ktoonz.

Is dkp that awesome? Battery life or performance wise? I never knew this kernel was so revolutionary - you really talked it up here! Ha ha. Would it run great on Liquid?

Thanks for bringing it up though, I'll be looking into trying it now.

About S4 versus S3, I agree with this decision to get S3, but I also agree that you could make quick dough by getting S4 and pawning it.

S3 development is unsurpassed in phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] shahkam:
Ktoonz working awesome on my s3 never tried any other kernels..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Elite49:
Coming from the DX2 myself last year, anything is better than it. I would go for the newest since you'll be stuck with it for 2 years and the S3 will run its course by next year. Love my S3 and can't wait until the S5.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] hallstevenson:
I think the price difference is more than $100. Closer to $200... Correction, $130 if you bought either at Amazon ($149 vs $19).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Maphack:
You could flip a NIB s4 on Craigslist in a few hours, unless you live in a remote area.

You could make a listing NIB S4 for NIB s3+cash right now before you decide and see what offers you get

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
While you bring up a good scenario, I believe the best that I could do is break even. Target has the S3 at $39 vs. the S4 at $149 for upgrade price. Does anyone really think that I would be able to make much more than the difference in upgrade price?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sjpritch25:
I can't say I wouldn't get this phone, but I might wait & see about the moto X. From the early looks it might be a pretty good contender.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Juice3250:
I think most people are missing my point. All I'm saying is that I want a better phone, not the best that's out there right now. I can compare it to buying a new car as opposed to buying used. While a new car looks shiny, one that is 1-2 years old will do what I need it to do. I simply cannot justify spending the extra to get something that will last probably not much longer than its predecessor. I also don't want to go to the extra trouble of trying to sell or trade the S4 when it won't net me that much in the end, IMHO.

Just my .02
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Lorenzo VonMatterhorn:
i dealt with this same inner struggle. being the recovery booting/flashing/romming/dalvik cahe wiping/permission fixing/ junkie i am, i wanted to insure the best experience possible. especially after having the pleasure of the droid x2. i got my s3 about a month ago, and it has been awesome already. there is no debate to be had. exactly what you said. it is MILES ahead of the droid x2. and with an unlocked bootloader, it will see development much longer than dx2 did. that is all that matters. spend your extra 100 dollars on something more worth while. :cowboy:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tonu42:
How can you say that? The phone hardly just came out, the S3 was in a similar situation. We had a locked bootloader, limited recovery and other such. You seem to forget that or not know. I was in the IRC helping Adam get a device to help unlock it. Within 43 minutes of me posting a link to donate to get him a device, he had over $700. The next week we had an unlocked boot loader.

Don't be so pessimistic, think positive. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshm.1219:
So, my friend (she's an iZombie of course) just asked if my phone was the "S4 Note".

I know this probably more because of Samsung's S4 fragmentation with the zoom/active/mini etc. models but I have noticed I've gotten quite a few funny comments/questions about this device, and so far no where to share it in my favorite XDA section!

Some of you must have a few humorous comments that you've received, post them here and share the laughs. :laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] d12unk13astard:
"You can make calls on that thing?"

"Bet the porn on that screen is amazing"

"Wish my iphone was that big"

Sent from my note 2 ya bish!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] tdetroit:
You look like you're holding an iPad Mini to your ear (on days that I forget my BT Ear Piece)

Why are you using a tablet to take pictures (but that usually stops once they see the pics and I don't have to do endless scrolling on websites)

Apple is Innovative, just look at my perfectly sized 4" screen, to which I usually reply,,,,Android was innovative in 2010 when they started having 4" screens, and you don't see me having any issues holding my 5.5" phone.

Best one....at the office....my co-worker always running around, trying to find another Apple user to see if he can use his proprietary connector to charge his phone.....out of spite I put my USB Cable on his desk once.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] narutonish:
It's that a Lcd TV?

:(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
"How do you fit that big thing in your pocket"

"Omg that is so huge can I hold it?"

Both things I would never hear ever without this phone!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hschreibz7:
"That thing is huge!"

Me: That(pointing to his iPhone)thing is small.

Or

"How do you fit that in your pocket?"

Usually there's some profanity in the first question lol but that's the one I get quite frequently. This phone is awesome!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] joshm.1219:
lol the innuendos with how it's size and pockets are never ending.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] halffrozen:
Girl: "It's.... soooooo.... humongous!!!"

Me: "I get that all the time... ohh and my phone is big too..."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] d12unk13astard:
... and the phone too hahaha

Sent from my note 2 ya bish!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] halffrozen:
I thought it was funny... wife didn't think too much of it... lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] wuestsider:
A buddy of mine saw my phone for the first time and stated; "I see you decided to bring your flat-screen TV with you.... God Damn!"

Then he began to fumble around with his little IPhone (The smart phone for stupid people)...

Wuestsider X!

Sent with my mighty Galaxy Note II!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] droidx2.3.3:
I occasionally get the "wow is that thing big" but alot of people around here either have a s3 s4 or note 2 so it doesn't really phase them. When i first got it is when I got alot of comments because it was still so new. A friend of mine asked me to see it (when a hot girl asks for your phone you just hand it over hahaha) but she is tiny, by tiny I mean 4'10" and maybe 110lbs. Well it truly looked like she was holding a tablet. Haha. That's when I saw how big it is. But I can never go back to a smaller phone now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
People: "how can you use a phone that big?"

Me: "I'm used to handling big things."

* Drops mic - http://imgur.com/ENM9tFy *
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nrfitchett4:
here lately, there are more note 2's or s4's than iphones at the hospital so not as many comments as there used to be.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JeramyEggs:
I get it all the time at the university I work at. Big screen tv, 80's boombox, table for our food. I just wait until one of my coworkers tries to show a youtube video, I go to the same one, and then put my phone next to theirs. That usually quiets those types of people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ForeverSupra:
Lmao!

I love this one too, hahaha.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jivankovich:
Black funny Coworker: "Damn n***a what is that a iPad or tablet?!"

Funniest comment I've gotten so far, Lmao.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Stanley304:
I often hear...

He's got his mini TV

Lets watch youtube

Best comment yet by some random blonde woman.

How can you even use that, its so big... my reply its not hard if you are already accustomed to big equipment.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] tee00max:
I was out eating hibachi for lunch yesterday and the the chef was talking about an old commercial and he seen my note on the table and told me to look it up on my Galaxy tablet!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hinds73:
Them: Overcompensating are we....?

Me: Nope, just complementing. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fozzir:
When I first got it I got alot of comments like "what phone is that?" or "is that a phone?" But now I see alot of Notes and S3.S4s so most people know what it is so I don't get that many comments.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] funkyboy1281:
First time my boss saw it he said "That's a phone?" I've gotten that one plenty of times. Now a few of my coworkers like to take their ipad's and put them next to their ear and pretend that's me with my note 2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] tigertigerwoodsyall:
Lol, my wife's uncle said to me "man, that's a small tablet". Classic