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[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PanchoPlanet:
Your Cappy knowledge is quite impressive, on that note any chance that you can expel some knowledge concerning unlocking an ATT Captivate?

All the stuff I found on Goggle is ancient procedures that don't work anymore, something happened in mid-June that has caused all if not most procedures to "unlock" to stop working.

I would greatly appreciate any knowledge or info that you could share with me (and anyone else that may come across this post.)

TIA, Pp.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] laughingT:
no experience with unlocking. :(

Sent via Monty Pythons Flying Circus
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 4-2ndtwin:
@ PanchoPlanet,

Why not just call at&t and ask for the unlock code. This phone is over 3 yrs old. They should have no problem giving it to u.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RabidNelson:
I just got my 2013 Nexus 7 at Best Buy. Upon first boot, it asks me to connect to Wifi then does an automatic upgrade. It reboots, but just sticks at a black screen. After 10 minutes of no sign of life, I forcibly turn it off and back on. It shows the Google logo for a few seconds, then I get another hanging black screen. It looks like the official Google update bricked it. This is a completely untampered N7. Anything I can do? Should I just return it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aooga:
If you can, yes.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] matthew0776:
I would Def jus take it back...they will exchange it 1000%

Candy Painted
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jporter396:
you could wait for google to release the factory image for the device like me. i have a nexus that has no problems like screen dust so im not gonna risk it
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RabidNelson:
I got my Nexus 7 exchanged at Best Buy. My suffering is over!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mi7chy:
The software issue is known and I believe there is a fix for it. You might run into it again with the replacement unit unfortunately. Do a search before you put it on WIFI that will cause it to update and break.

Look at this thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2380258
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] James.UBC:
I've heard the original 3G Nexus 7 could send/recieve texts so I was thinking about replacing my nexus 4 with my 6 because I don't make many phone calls these days - just need a device for texting, browsing, and reading.

Could someone with the LTE version try installing the sms/dialer app and see if they work?

Thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] samdroids2a:
ive read that 4g only transmits internet, and no texts or calls can be made on it :eek:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] teh roxxorz:
WELL. If you wana get fancy, you can use a voip app if you wana make calls. Google voice will let you send text over wifi/data. It just doesn't do mms messages.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] James.UBC:
Canada :(

the cheapest data plans here are also more or less the same as the equivalent data only plans - especially with promotions/loyalty
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] teh roxxorz:
Ah, well that definitely blows there guy. =/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] casonswag:
I can text on my wifi model now using this app called tablet talk u can even dial a number or call somebody and itll start ringing on your phone its a neat app
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] James.UBC:
kinda wanted to skip the also-own-a-phone part
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Afghan_Ninja:
So, my plan is to purchase the lte version of this tablet on Verizon. Then use Google Voice to make calls and receive texts(replacing my SGN2 on occasion). Does anybody have any idea how much monthly data I should purchase(I will also be streaming music, browsing the web and social networks regularly).

And if anyone knows the rough amount of data used to make a voice call(to another phone) using Google Voice, I would love to know! :)

Thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] triccer:
From google/nexus/7

North America:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)

LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)

Europe:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)

LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)

So more than just 4G. :) Although I'm not sure where the no texts/calls on 4G comes from. If you could provide source I'd love to see it.

Unless you meant the

Nexus 7 4G

is Internet only and no text/calls:

If the cell chips are the same as the Nexus 4/Optimus G I'd love to see someone enable the calling features on the N7 2013. Although as We've seen with the N7 2012 that might be a difficult task.

HERE's HOPING! :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] TheWerewolf:
You know - it's really frustrating when someone answers a question with what I'm sure to the person writing it seems to be a relevant and helpful comment - but has completely missed the point of the original question.

For example: the question here is essentially: The old Nexus could send texts/SMS - could someone install the dialer/message app on the new model with LTE and test this. A related question is 'can you use the cell model to do voice calls?'

In both cases, it should be clear that a part of the question is implied: 'in the same way you can do with a regular cellphone'. In fact, the guy actually SAYS this.

The actual correct answer is: no one has a Nexus 7 2013 LTE yet, so we just don't know.

"You can use application X to do VoiP" isn't actually a valid unless you start with "no - you can't do voice calls using the 3G or LTE radios, but..." because the question isn't 'is there ANY way to make a regular phone call on a tablet that doesn't support voice calls'.

Similarly "You can use application Y to do something kind of like texting/SMS" isn't a valid answer unless it can actually text or SMS to a phone that doesn't run a special app, or receive a text/SMS from a phone that's not running that app.

Or.. "Can you attach a USB Stick to the Nexus 7 2013 using an OTA USB cable?" It's safe to assume the user means 'without completely rearranging, rooting or flashing the Nexus'. So the actual answer is "no, no you can't." You could THEN follow up with "But if you're willing to..." Not everyone wants to put custom roms on their system or root it... so that's not an 'obvious' answer and it's really annoying when someone says 'yes! you can!' and then moves onto a page of instructions on how to modify your stock device to install all sorts of unknown and potentially dangerous software to get this one feature to work.

Oh and before someone says it - because someone will - yes, XDA is targeted to developers and experimenters - but XDA has become a trusted place for people to come and look for help even when they're not developers and experimenters. You can generally tell who these people are because they ask questions like 'can you use your Nexus 7 2013 LTE as a phone?' The regulars here already know that you can't use the 2012 model for that - and that the odds are low that the 2013 will let you do it either and so wouldn't be asking that question.

So at least try to make the answers match the audience or perhaps hold off answering until it makes more sense?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] .:Crack:.:
Any new information?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sml12:
Picked up my LTE nexus 7 today in Australia.

Inserted my SIM card.

Installed Go SMS Pro.

Can send & receive standard SMS text messages via my mobile number.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] w1ll1m:
How about calls? Not VoIP since it can do them no problem
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sml12:
there is no dialler.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] w1ll1m:
What about installing one and testing it out? ;)

What happens if someone calls the number?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sml12:
I called my phone number from my friend's iPhone and my mobile number was ringing when listening to the iPhone ... but nothing was happening on the nexus 7 LTE.

I tried to do this to get a dialler "install QuickShortcutMaker and make a shortcut to it. Search "phone" in the app. It should be the first result, under contacts."

But cannot find a dialler :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] FloMi:
I'm thinking of selling my n4 and buy a N7.

If that works I'm in :)

If not I'm gonna buy a Wi-Fi N7 either..
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sml12:
if what works? let me know the steps and I'll give it a shot.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] FloMi:
The phone thing :)

I didn't see your post before I sent mine
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sml12:
I tried again using quickshortcutmaker ... the following shortcuts are possible when searching for 'dial':

Heading = Mobile Data .com.android.phone

Mobile Data - Emergency Dialer .com.android.phone/com.android.phone.EmergencyDialer

Mobile Data = Fixed Dialing Numbers .com.android.phone/com/android.phone.FdnSetting

Mobile Data = EcmExitDialog .com etc etc

Emergency Dialer - did permit me to try a local call

Fixed Dialing Numbers - had a few options = disable FDN, change PIN2, FDN list
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] FloMi:
I have no clue what that means :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] w1ll1m:
How about using a headset if you have one available, one which enables calls by pressing a button on the headset and telling Google to call whoever?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
Ideally the best test would be to install (through Titanium backup for instance) The phone.apk of the Nexus 4 and see if you manage to get something

You can find it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2388928

Tell us how it goes :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sontjer:
I'm afraid google is not that stupid,if so that would make it become another samsung galaxy note sort of stuff.:p
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Bob Smith42:
You show the USA model LTE supports:

LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)

But, Google Play shows T-Mobile USA model LTE supports:

LTE (700, 850, AWS, 1900 MHz)

Can anyone explain the difference?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] cheebwacka:
up!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Not true anymore, I got mine on Aug. 28th in Germany. :cowboy:

If you don't have any message app, you will get a notification about every new SMS. You just can't save them.

I tried to transfer the apks from my Nexus 4 (CM10.2) to my N7 LTE (Sock). They don't work: force close

But for SMS I installed SMSdroid https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.ub0r.android.smsdroid

I can send/receive text messages.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
That's a good news

If you were using the original SMS app it is very likely it wouldn't break (It s not surprsing the CM10 one doesn't work on Stock android)

Now the next challenge is to inatall phone.apk to see if you manage to get calls

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Actually for the ones who prefer stock android app, you can probably try this one I guess:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178697
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Good hint. I'll try that!

I am planning on installing PAC rom on my N7. It has CM included, maybe the CM apks work in this...

We will see, I'll report back.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
I should receive my N7 today or tomorrow so I am going to play with it as well
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] drowl87:
SMS not working for me

I received my US version of the 2013 N7 LTE model, popped in the AT&T Micro SIM from my old 2012 N7, and downloaded Go SMS Pro. I sent a SMS to both my Verizon and Google Voice numbers, the app shows that the message was "sent", but nothing shows up in either Google Voice or on my GNex on VZW unfortunately. :( I haven't activated the T-Mobile SIM that shipped with the tablet because I plan to hold on to that until I need to activate it for some reason. My guess is that it's good until the date stamped on the wallet-sized card that the SIM comes in - 08/08/15.

I can't verify the ability to make calls because I haven't been able to root the JLS36C build yet. If I am able to eventually get rooted, I'll try to remember to update this post if I'm able to restore the phone.apk from my Gnex.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
You probably need a voice plan to send/recieve SMS on AT&T

I will try with my AT&T SIM card. Unfortunately not a micro SIM but a regular SIM so I may have to cut it first
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] drowl87:
That would make more sense. I was hoping there would still be a way to do it with the $10/mo tablet add-on instead of the $35-$40/mo for a smartphone on the AT&T Shared plan.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kisrita:
Why not just send SMS over data? I use Google voice with my Google number on all my devices cellular or wifi. I think you could use the Vonage app to call and send SMS that appears to come from whatever phone number you choose and activate, but I've never tested it beyond using it to make calls that appear to come from my Google voice number.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Ok guys, this is what I tried with dailer.apk, phone.apk and mms.apk after extracting .apk and .odex from stock 4.3 occam (N4):

- install the apk

- copy them to /system/app, wipe dalvic

- push via adb

- install via adb

None of the methods showed any success at all! I think the problem is, that we are on odexed roms where the apk/odex files are mostly incompatible with other devices.

My suggestion:

Try the same efforts with deodexed roms for both devices N4 and N7.

Or try it with custom roms (as they are deodexed).

I will wait until PAC rom or CM10.2 come up with nightlies for deb.

So far... cheers
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
Yes should try with a deodexed ROM

Stupid &%$^#%&(@ UPS screwed up my delivery (And kept me waiting 1.5 hours at their customer service just to tell me that they're sorry but I would have it on Monday...) I'll try next week
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Don't worry. Same happened with my N4 because of the parcel got damaged... I had to pick it up at the local store on Monday.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
I flashed the mms.apk from Nexus 4 using apk installer and I could successfully send and receive SMS using a full plan SIM (ie not data only)

Now let's see what can be done with the phone...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Nice! Which Rom? Odex or deodex?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
The original ROM (Not rooted, nothing). Use the MMS.apk available in the link I posted. Download the free app "apk installer", launch, it will see your MMS.apk and you can install it from there. Reboot and enjoy.

Now comes the difficult part: the phone. I tried the same way to flash phone.apk. It refuses to go through. The interesting thing is it pretends the apk is already installed (And indeed in the folder System/app there is a phone.apk, which is here to manage data communications (It is actually labelled "Mobile Data")

Trying to install through ADB isn't working better (no surprise), with either a [INSTALL_FAILED_SHARED_USER_INCOMPATIBLE] or {INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATE] depending on what I try to install

There may be a chance through Titanium backup, unfortunately I don't have any backup of the Nexus 4 phone.apk. I tried with a backup of my P6800 phone.apk just for the fun, but obviously it will never work (Just gave a try with what I had)

If one of you have a Nexus 4 and can post a backup of his phone.apk, that would be helpful. So far the Nexus 4 forum guys have been pretty grumpy and not really helpful...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45700220#post45700220
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
[MENTION=385737]Alcibiade[/MENTION]

which app exactly? There are multiple apps called "apk installer". Does it do anything more than an normal exlorer?

I attached the stock N4 apk/odex files I dumped off the occam image. Good luck!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
I used the apk installer that has a blue droid icon

I already have the apk from a Nexus 4 ROM, I was more looking for a Titanium backup of an existing installed ROM (Hoping Titanium backup could also restore some settings needed to work properly)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
Btw as reported by others, MMS don't work with this method
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] nextelbuddy:
the Dialer, phone and mms apps not appearing have nothing to do with ODEX or DE ODEXed..

it has everything to do with 2 things... one being the FRAMEWORK.RES file. the FRAMEWORK.res is configured to scale out those apps no matter if they are present and installed or not.

Nexus 7 LTE modem is also not setup and configured to allow phone/mms currently.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] shyd:
Aha thanks! Good explanation though!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
Ouch. The Framework maybe workable... The modem could be impossible to take care of :( (Unless there is a way to hack some stuff from the Nexus 4... But still)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aenertia:
Just an oversight in the CM10.2 builds?

Hrm; I picked up my Nexus7(deb) this afternoon and have rooted it and put the PACman build that is floating around. From what I can devine it is based on the user contributed CM10.2 build from a few days ago. It appears these builds based on the AOSP code drop by google omit the Phone and Messaging frameworks and applications - there is nothing technically that I can think of that would preclude the Radio chipset from doing voice calls. The RIL/Modem is there and addressable - due to the fact it lacks a GSM radio any network that needs GSM for calling won't work.

In New Zealand the XT network is a WCMDA 850/2100 UMTS and voice calls are just a dedicated channel allocation in the UMTS/3G UTRAN/NodeB plan. There should be no reason voice won't work if your carrier is using their UMTS network for voice channels; unless they are arse hats and lock it out by design.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Alcibiade:
OK that's good (I found the previous post about the radio surprising, but still it was worrying me)

Now we have to hope we'll get a CM10 with phone support. That being said when I browsed the original Nexus 7 (2012) thread there didnt seem to be any CM10 ROM supporting phone functions. Am I wrong ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] HowardZ:
I use Verizon.

Verizon provides free texting apps.

I can send & receive texts on my pc, phone, nexus 7, no problem using Verizon software . I have not tried picture MMS.

So, Verizon provides a good texting over data solution, and it works even when my Samsung S4 phone is powered off.

Verizon provides a Web page to forward phone calls. I selected the forward after no answer option and entered my Google voice number I use talkatone on the tablet. My nexus 7 LTE rings on the 4th or 5th call ring.

So, I can move my micro simm between phone and LTE tablet, and phone and texting works.

Currently, Verizon phones provide calls and texts via CDMA, so this is the best setup possible since the nexus 7 LTE 2013 does not have a CDMA radio.

Verizon will be moving to calling over voip, but for unknown reasons Google did not include voip calling in the settings menu.

Btw, I have read that cyanogenmod currently can not do data on Verizon, so CM10.2 turns the nexus 7 LTE into a wifi only model if you use Verizon.

For those using Verizon, I hope this is helpful.

Regards
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] endiz:
Was anyone able to get SIP calling work with the native dialer?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] devsector:
I can confirm you can send/receive texts on the lte version with go sms pro application. I just got my lte version today with t mobile service in florida, if that helps you any. I am testing a bunch of messaging apps because it seems only certain will let you text. I will update if i find any other information.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] clubtech:
No luck here. I tried to recompile the framework-res.apk file and enable the dialer (like we did on the original N7) but that didn't do anything. The dialer is not showing up. I can see the phone app in /system/app folder but it is not visiable or usable in any way.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] endiz:
Thats just too bad =/ As a consolation I'm using csipsimple for now but I would prefer the native dailer.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] endiz:
Would anyone be willing to start raising a bounty with the devs to somehow incorporate SIP calling as an adb update or flashable zip?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Kosmonaut:
Is this for sure that the Nexus 7 LTE has no GSM radio module? I would guess that the chip for 3g/LTE has GSM default inside?

Best!

Michael
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aenertia:
Pretty sure no GSM chipset

Based on the Spec sheets available, that is true. GSM modems are a legacy component of most SoC designs; so it does not surprise me that chipset manufacturers are starting to omit them in their WCDMA chip-sets.

There are several reasons why they might do this:

a) To reduce Fabrication costs

b) To reduce integration costs

c) To reduce Regulatory compliance costs (this is the most likely one)

d) Reduce power consumption

Reports are there are no GPRS fallback modes (and I can confirm If I swap in a Vodafone chipset and head to the middle of no-where) - this would imply the above is in fact true.

As I said; this is only going to mean that networks that need GSM for Voice modes will never work with it. I have yet to see a rom with voice calling over UMTS that works. But that is an oversight IMHO; as so long as the network is GSM free (i.e XT in NZ, and I believe most of AT&T in USia and Rogers in Canada) then it should be possible.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] joeheim:
Look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178697

or post #28 in this thread.

Messenging app works on Nexus LTE
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aenertia:
Oh MMS works fine; This thread basically should just renamed as 'Phone' The dialer is really the functionality I am after. You can easily add a third party or recompiled mms App to the factory image and get MMS/SMS(well SMS over MMS channels) working fine. And as people have noted notifications come enabled by default (with no way of storing/replying however).

I want the dialer and phone to work.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sk8trix:
my solution is use google voice and groove ip which costs 4.99 on the play store and it will let you make phone calls from the tablet using your google voice number which can be linked to a cellphone and then just use it on your tablet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] speedyg0nz:
No offense but I wish people could keep the discussion to exploring pure gsm/telephony solutions to voice calls. As much as I would like to use Google Voice, it's unfortunately not available in most countries and hence not an option.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sk8trix:
Oh sorry i didnt know u didnt live in the U.S that sucks man i dont know then what u can do. The nexus 7 is not a phone and most likely will NEVER support gsm calls. I was only posting the solution I found to my issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aenertia:
Agreed; Installing the current SIP client du-jour is not analogous to native on-network voice calls. Which is the feature that most users will be interested in.

Many modern UMTS networks do not use GSM for voice call channels. It is these networks specifically where there is no technical reason why on-network voice calls should not be able to be implemented.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] magecca:
I can confirm that using the DEB on AT&T networks (at least) and the attached Mms.apk I can send and receive SMS/MMS.

I cannot cite the source of the Mms.apk, I believe it's a PA/PAC version from a MAKO
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] devsector:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2434707

This one works for sms on the lte version in case somebody needs it. However MMS didn't work.

I just tried magecca's MMS.apk. Both SMS and MMS work on my T Mobile DEB. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] magecca:
Darn, devsector is quick haha
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] flinttownbrown:
I wonder if something has to be changed in the nvram of the Qualcomm chip... I am able to get my device in diag mode but I cannot find the proper drivers for it... If we can get them, it might be similar to the way AWS bands are enabled via QPST for the sgs3 and sgs4...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] cygery:
Can you please describe how you put the device in diag mode?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] flinttownbrown:
In terminal:

su

setprop sys.usb.config diag,adb

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To revert repeat with mtp,adb instead of diag,adb
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sh0nuff:
The whole requirement to have a gsm network for voice isn't really valid, depending on your location. I'm using a voice plan enabled SIM with data on Telus in Canada. Now the only have 3g HSPA network, and don't have any sort of 2G network for a backup.. not sure if the radio in the nexus supports anything in that regard, but figured the info might be valuable in some fashion