yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia L] damian01211:
Tested. Doesn't boot at all. I was waiting for around 5 minutes and nothing happend. Coming back to my copy but wait... MD5 sums doesn't match and cannot come back. Need to flash FTF, god dammit -.- great...

Okey so I gave you a logcat. Maybe you could figure it out something of it.

http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/11281253/file.html
[Sony Xperia L] Shaaan:
[MENTION=4913184]percy_g2[/MENTION] a build without the framework?

:D
[Sony Xperia L] percy_g2:
Adb is gone crazy :eek:

Nvm new build tonight
[Sony Xperia L] :
thanks for all your hard work, im going to build pa today! But it will probably have the same issues so its a WIP ofcourse;)

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and i just figured out why your rom acts up so bad, alot of the permissions, including "handheld_core_hardware.xml", are missing which poses a huge threat to androids way of thinking
[Sony Xperia L] :
got any fixes planned?:D
[Sony Xperia L] :
[MENTION=4913184]percy_g2[/MENTION]

Can you build cwm for Xperia M?

I've all info you need. Pm me if you're ready to begin.
[Sony Xperia L] Shaaan:
Did anyone say cwm?

:o
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
[MENTION=4060849]Shaaan[/MENTION] is the pro in recoveries! ;)
[Sony Xperia L] yajnab:
Is the HW Composer issue solved.. ??
[Sony Xperia L] percy_g2:
No
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
I ain't working on anything right now. I have my exams starting from next week.
[Sony Xperia L] subha7082:
When will there a Stable Cyanogen Mod build you make?

can anyone upload original 4.3 AOSP of Xperia Z
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
1. First Rule of CM, Don't ask for ETA's

2. This is not the right place dude. Ask in Z forum!
[Sony Xperia L] subha7082:
thanks for information
[Sony Xperia L] Kulwinder Singh:
[MENTION=2836423]diego-ch[/MENTION] [MENTION=4351285]Paul L.[/MENTION] can u please help us with cm for xperia l..
[Sony Xperia L] naitik2012:
Add [MENTION=4495609]OliverG96[/MENTION] also :) how did u forgot him?Oliver and Paul L solved most of the issue of CM 10.1
[Sony Xperia L] Eskuero:
I was going to get an Xperia L and develop for it since it was pretty unsopportted, but my carrier only offered me one for free, of course on a non-unlockable way, and I won't work on a device I don't own.

Enviado desde mi GT-I8190 usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia L] damian01211:
I think XL won't get CM at all ;/

Look at that, most people prefer to buy a XSP or Nexus 4 instead of XL.
[Sony Xperia L] Sparksys:
True :(, Xperia SP now have About 15 ROMs and we got 4 ROMs...
[Sony Xperia L] damian01211:
That sad. Of that 4 rom's only one is stable for daily use. Other aren't working ;/

If I know anything about porting then I would try but nothing about porting.
[Sony Xperia L] naitik2012:
than how will u unlock ur device ? and how can u work on CM 10.1 if ur device is non-unlockable ;(

seems like oliver will buy this phone and he will surely give fully working CM 10.1 , if not u can kill me !

Hope he will get this phone soon

Thanks
[Sony Xperia L] Eskuero:
You didn't understand, I won't get this phone because the one my provider offered comes with a non-unlockable bl.

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[Sony Xperia L] Paul L.:
I don't understand why do you need (my?) help, as a Qualcomm (with a lot of public info, source code, datasheets, etc etc) device it's far easier for you to develop than ours. Even being a Sony device normally grants some degree of actual "source-code".

What I did? I already said it. I ported a patch from Jellybean (4,1) to CM-10.1 (4.2) in which everything was pretty much done by FreeXperia. Which was specific to the ST-Ericsson Novathor chipsets, which is far different than yours, and we don't even have great sources at all. I could say even that my ROM was pretty much entirely and absolutely made around diego's CM 10.1 code at that time, I didn't have the idea of the patch when I compiled my ROM, and the first thing I did was porting that to CM-10.1 and not to my ROM.

Almost everything I did was contribute in what I could. But developing "blindy" is a bad idea, that's why we didn't compile ANYTHING for other devices before getting SOMEONE who actually owns the device, and then providing any assistance to get their device working at some comparable degree.

Obviously FXP won't provide OFFICIAL CM-10.x to Novathor Xperia devices because he knows that are some issues that are far from being addresable without any official code from ST-E, Sony, or even Samsung. And he is RIGHT (believe me that he knows what he is saying) that 4.2 won't be any better for any of the Sony Novathor devices. But we obviously did it by our own, I personally (it's not what everyone thinks) take that like a Sony stock approach, we don't like THAT approach, we just care about getting the newer Android available for the devices that can RUN it with a "aceptable" speed.
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
Test Build

Hello everyone.

Test Build: http://www.mediafire.com/download/c0uhaxe3gpuws3q/cm-10.1-20130927-UNOFFICIAL-taoshan.zip

Download and Post logcat here!!
[Sony Xperia L] DeviousFusion:
http://pastebin.com/pijZPufT

hwsync is still being faked. Still stuck on bootscreen and hwcomposer is still being a stubborn ass.

Can you tell what modifications you tried?

I am stuck at similar logcat on my build of PA.
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
Ok, Uploading another build (Many things added) let's see if it boots
[Sony Xperia L] DeviousFusion:
Sounds good enough.
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
Test Build #2: http://www.mediafire.com/?5g97vzjlj603ck1

Flash CM kernel wipe everything and Flash this ROM!!
[Sony Xperia L] Crytech:
Here is log. This build also didn't boot.
[Sony Xperia L] percy_g2:
i'am seriously fed up , i compiled with 0% change in device tree and still it doesn't boot .

Give me a working tree ,then only i can help with fixes
[Sony Xperia L] hashroot:
Don't know what is wrong with it...it was booting before!
[Sony Xperia L] percy_g2:
try this https://github.com/The-Superman/Taoshan-wip/pull/1/files

there are 2 more blobs missing in vendor tree check logcat
[Sony Xperia L] Me_Shazzy:
As DescribeD

I think the problem is with build.prob or Framework.jar

i wish i could compile it but my laptop is in the service center Its motherboard got burnt dont knw how
[Sony Xperia L] :
So does the newest build, 20130728 boot?
[Sony Xperia L] Me_Shazzy:
No !
[Sony Xperia L] :
do any builds boot?

Also: then don't post the build I imbox, i used it as a base
[Sony Xperia L] Me_Shazzy:
Yup they do boot
[Sony Xperia L] :
which is the latest booting?
[Sony Xperia L] Me_Shazzy:
the one which is provided in the first post other builds are not booting

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Here Try This new build

d-h.st/gDw

And provide me the logcat
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
I got the new Nexus 7 at Walmart and also picked up the old Nexus in perfect condition from Craigslist for $85. Been spending time working with both side-by-side all morning. My thoughts...

1. The new one seems marginally quicker at some things like swiping between screens in the launcher. That to me is the most noticeable difference, and it's not that big of a change. I am thinking the better graphic acceleration contributes here.

2. I can't tell much difference in the screens. I know there is more resolution, but with my bifocals, I am just fine with the old screen. Saturation on the new screen seems a teeny bit better, but there is also a slight buish tint. I expected to be blown away by the new screen. I'm not.

3. Call me crazy, but I prefer the feel in the hand of the old version. The more rounded edges and the back feel better to me. Can't tell much of a difference in weight, but the new one definitely feels thinner, and the thinness cuts into my palm a bit more. I don't like the thinner bezels at all. And the new one is slightly taller, feels kind of awkwardly shaped.

4. The new tablet takes significantly longer to charge.

5. I couldn't care less about the front camera. Will never use it.

6. Perhaps the deal-killer for me is that the new version has some kind of touchscreen problem. The keyboard gives double-presses, and single touches on buttons (like "accept" in the Play Store) too often requires multiple tries. Anybody else noticing this? Maybe mine is bad?

All-in-all, it looks like the new Nexus 7 has provided a nice opportunity to get the old version cheap for me. After trying both, I don't see a compelling reason to stay with the new one. Just my honest assessment. Your mileage may vary.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mannequin:
having seen 2 different N7 2013 units already, i'd say the screen is a lottery just like it was with the 1st model. yellow tint, contrast setting and scroll blur will vary on each one. btw i never understood the reviews that go into some major details about the screen, like anandtech for example. don't get me wrong, their reviews are amazing but those screen technicalities are not worth anything seeing how the review unit will be different to any actual unit on the store shelves.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] UWRF:
1. Do you play graphics/processor intensive games? The new processor crushes the old one. I don't recommend the upgrade if smoother swiping between screens is all you're looking for.

2. Again, if you are content with the old resolution... stick with that. Clearly, the majority of reviewers and myself personally are in love with the screen. When I use my GS3 now, I cringe.

3. That's great that you like the old thickness. Sounds like an issue with your expectations.... Not the device itself.

4. You have a point here.

5. You should have known this prior to buying the device.... How can you be underwhelmed by a feature you already knew you didn't want...

6. Never had this happen on the two 32 g models I've used.

TL;DR You're doing it wrong. Stop hating on the device because your expectations are off... Doesn't sound like what you need out of a tablet demands a new Nexus 7... you can't blame the tablet for that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] drose6102:
Well the reason it takes longer to charge is the old nexus 7 came with a 2 amp charger and the new one only has a 1.3 amp
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] RojasTKD:
I for one LOVE the new screen, if you can't see the difference then your in the minority.

An $85 older Nexus 7 is a great value. Just keep it and return the New Nexus, if you do think it worth the premium to you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cdmoore74:
I love everything about the New Nexus 7. It is what I expected from Google/Asus and they delivered. What else do you want them to do at the $229 price point? Google has put in a nice 1080p display, underclocked S600 processor, 2gig of ram, 5ghz wifi and the memory subsystem has been approved over the original. My only real criticism is the lack of SD card slot but that is true for any Google device. This is not the perfect tablet and people have to put their expectations in check.

Can anyone compare another $229 tablet to this one? Even the $400 Note 8 gets beat buy this and I'm a Note 2 owner.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Fataldesain:
I mean for all that are reading this and don't have one yet the truth is this. Should you upgrade? Hell yes!!!! Now when is the question to you I sold my 16gb gen1 for 170 a week ago came with cases so to spend 40 bucks to get the new one is nothing. Even if its 60 dollars its worth it. Think about how much apple fanboys spend to upgrade every year. The new nexus is better in every way possible.

Now if you happy with the old I understand most people are probably using this for reading stuff so the first one is fine. I just never really liked the first design wise
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jtc276:
I still have yet to see the new Nexus 7. I hadn't used my OG Nexus for probably 2 months and, now that I am again, I'm realizing how "good enough" it is. I'm going to have to see the new one to really convince myself to drop $270 on the 32gb.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] fix-this!:
its a good upgrade, still a bit of stagger here and there. they should of went with the snapdragon 600 instead of the s4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] casonswag:
This gen is deff better then last gen i wasnt really liking how it felt on the first one this one feels and looks alot better

Sent From My Fresh Nexus 7(2013)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
We already know its not just an S4 pro. Basically a binned and under clocked 600
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
I'm not saying the new one isn't better... Just that it isn't $150 better (to me).

-- Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] keijikage:
It's underwhelming when you compare it against the high expectations of the first Nexus 7.

The original Nexus 7 made an absolute joke of all the other mfg's 7"-8" tablets at their existing price point. The ONLY reason you'd buy something other than a Nexus 7 was if you wanted micro sd card support - otherwise the specs were no contest. And why should they? Google was working on razor thin margins for the hardware compared to mfgs.

If you go to a box store and look at the new N7, and then look at all the other 7" tablets, everything else is still a joke and it's far from underwhelming. Google stated that they were making a profit on this one, but my guess is that a big part of this is being able to leverage Motorola's buying power/agreements to reduce individual component cost. Best buy is making a 3.5% margin on the new nexus 7 (8-9.4USD). - it barely makes sense to take up the floor space to sell the damn things and I'd wager that most other box retailers are not doing much better.

OT

It'd be genius if someone from BB knew that staples was running the tablet coupon of $30 off and launched early to cause staples to take a loss on their inventory ($~20 per unit).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] RojasTKD:
I can understand that, especially after you mentioned picking up the 2012 Nexus 7 for $85 off Craig's list.

People here are gadget geeks and and spec-mongers, always wanting the latest and greatest (me included). Some of its get a little defensive if someone seen to put down our device of choice.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] negroplasty:
No I am not underwhelmed overall, but I am by the lack of optimization in the games I care about... The funny thing is the old N7 smokes this devices in both GTA3 and Vice City... go ahead, try and max out the settings, I dare any of you. Now I know this device is significantly more powerful but the bottom line is real world performance and I believe the OP raises a valid point: there isn't a significant difference.

Source: I've owned an N4 since launch (and now an N7.2) and had a friend's OG N7 for a couple weeks when they were out of town.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Yeah maybe the upgrade isn't worth an extra $150 over the 1st gen you just got, but it is still an upgrade and we want the latest and so most people are willing to pay the premium for that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
This should be consolidated into a single "whine" thread instead of cluttering the forum.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dems86:
Personally my first gen doesn't come close to touching my new one. Everything is so much faster, smoother and instant. Thanks to the extra RAM it doesn't get crippled when running lots of apps or updating. Can't believe anyone could use both devices and not come away thinking the new one is an upgrade and a half.

Oh, and the screen is flipping fantastic, my GS3 takes a second to get used to when switching directly between the two.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
Yeah, a shame to clutter a general discussion forum with discussion.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] BrianDigital:
Well if chime, by the time your ready for an upgrade the og n7 will be worth peanuts
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
Thanks for that. For the record, I didn't mean to put the new one down, but to give my honest personal assessment evaluating both against the cost difference. And I honestly couldn't detect a major difference between the two screens. I'm blind, I guess.

The new one is nice, but you have to remember, I am new to both of them. Kind of amazing that the awesome device of a few weeks ago is now garbage. ;). I appreciate the new one even more since it allowed me to get a pretty amazing tab for just $85.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Simer03:
I had my brother bring his first gen version over and we had the two next to each other and Im not sure what you're talking about...this one is better in every way and CERTAINLY $30-50 better! Yeah u may have gotten a used one on Craigslist but not everyone will have that luxury so u have to consider the full price on a new first gen.

Sent from my Nexus 7 2013
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
I don't disagree with that. I may upgrade myself eventually.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] e.mote:
@OP

Don't mind the peanut gallery. The reaction is to be expected. You're in the middle of a launch-rage, where most people have just paid for their new shiny, and they don't want to hear downers affecting their high.

Maybe it's an age thing, too. After you've gone through enough of these "new toy" cycles, you get a little blase more easily. The toys aren't quite as shiny or pretty. The high doesn't last as long. And petty things like cost comparison tar the picture. For myself, guilty as charged on all of these.

I'm gonna defend the new N7 a bit here. The 1080p screen may not look much diff over the old, but it's a necessity, given business realities. New N7 is intended to face against the 2nd gen iPad Mini, which is widely expected to get Retina. Then, N7 must get higher res as well, or else it'd get hammered in reviews (and buying perception) for having an "inferior" display. Likewise, Kindle Fire HD 7 is rumored to go 1080p. It's marketing driving perception, and you may not like it, but if you're selling widgets, you have to play by the same rules.

Ditto with the "thinness" craze. I entirely agree that a thin tab, while may be aesthetically more appealing, is also more uncomfortable to hold than a thicker one, especially one with a softer backing. But again, marketing dictates that thinner is better, and that's how it is.

I'm waiting for the moment when some marketer is savvy enough to go counter-culture and sell a soft, chubby tablet. It'll happen at some point, if only because tabs can only be so thin or display so high a res.

Skimming through this forum for talk on the new toy, and I'm struck by how familiar it is for all the new toy launches. It's almost as if the new widget isn't the point, but it's the _occasion_, like going to the movies for the social experience rather than the film itself. New toys and the anticipation for them, and modding them, is how we nerds get our fun.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] conan1600:
"New toys and the anticipation for them, and modding them, is how we nerds get our fun."

This.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
Thanks for your thoughts! Yeah, I think it may be an age thing. As I got older, I found I could actually pay off my car before having to have a new one. I can also stick with a phone for almost a whole year. :)

Having a Note 2 and an iPad 3, I was late to the Nexus 7 game. But when my daughter started using my iPad all the time, it was time to look at a low cost Android tablet. I think for the price I paid, the first N7 will be just right for now, especially after comparing the new one and weighing the price difference.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rushless:
Apparently way underclocked, compared to my S4. Still, games and emulators tested so far are smooth, so seems fine as is.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rmkilc:
After owning the original Nexus 7 for over 6 months, and then picking up the new Nexus 7 on Friday, I have to say it exceeded nearly all my expectations.

1. Swiping between screens is not going to tell you the true improvement in performance. Get more usage under your belt, and then decide. The increase in RAM also really helps. With the original Nexus 7, I could only have about 7 chrome tabs open before it had to reload the pages. Honestly, I would find myself just using my Nexus 4 instead of my Nexus 7 due to the measly 1 GB of RAM. The new Nexus 7 is a welcome improvement.

2. There is a huge improvement in the screen! Text is much more clear, and 1080p video plays in it's full resolution.

3. Each to their own, but the new Nexus 7 feels amazing. It feels thin and light and makes the original Nexus 7 feel bulky and heavy.

4. Could be the smaller amp charger. I will use Qi anyway.

5. A new feature you won't use has nothing to do with "underwhelming".

6. I haven't noticed any touchscreen problems.

I don't see how any of this is underwhelming. They added Qi charging, Slimport, Miracast, OTG, rear camera, a notification light, and amazing stereo speakers. My only complaints are lack of Google Wallet (not because I use it, but on principal), and the upside down micro-USB port. If you think the original Nexus 7 is better for you, more power to you!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landara:
Dude, you're a Cubs fan. Your life is one big disappointment, I fail to see how this could bother you at all!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Vanhoud:
And how do we know it's "not just a S4 pro"?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rmkilc:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zaclimon:
This should explains a bit what's up with this special s4 pro:

http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-2013-s-4-pro-snapdragon-600-249594/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
Har har. Such a brilliant wit you have.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landara:
Soriano says "¡Hola!" :victory:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] EVOme:
I never had any nexus device before this 7....I used a mini almost everyday and the . 9" I lost is kind of huge. The form factor is very hard to get used to. I'm tired of Chrome freezing all of the time. I only use a tablet for web browsing and simple games like candy crush, subway surf, etc., so the HP diff over the mini means nothing. The screen is the biggest wow over the monitor me. This device really should be a nexus 8. A buddy wants to buy my mine and I am scared to sell it verses returning the n7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cubfan99:
So happy he is gone. Enjoy today... you won't be enjoying him as time goes by. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Landara:
Im a Braves fan, I will enjoy crushing his spine if we play them again :) I'm just giving you a hard time dude, sort of a national past time :) But no Yankess fan here! Cheers!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
His points were valid comparisons. The old N7 speed problems should be rectified with 4.3 to comparable speeds we saw on 4.1.2

I agree the thinness is welcome but slippery compared to last gen.

The screen is also not that noticeable between models as they both had high PPI... especially to someone with bifocals... or even to my good eyes. The importance of extremely high resolution and PPI is apple marketing at its best. Last gen had a great resolution for this size screen.

So by comparing an $85 tablet with a $200 tablet, one might be happy with the price savings.

The touch screen problems might be a hardware issue on some. Mine and many others aren't experiencing this, but enough are to suggest it is valid.

To each there own. I'm happy with mine.

Sent from Nexus 7 FHD from XDA Premium HD
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] thaliagoo:
I'm kind of late to the tablet party. Got a first gen nexus 7 last week because it was so cheap ($150 for 32 gb). Loved it and saw the new nexus 7 had much much better specs so obviously I had to buy that too.

No I'm not underwhelmed at all. This thing is freaking awesome.

I need to return one but I kinda like both, it's almost not worth returning for $150. Maybe I'll give one to my fiance although I'm not sure we need two tablets in one household. Or if we do get two both should be the newer versions... what would you do in my shoes?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
Oh trust me you need two tablets if you live with your fiance