yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
Hi all, this may seem like a silly question, but is the SlimPort adapter just plug and play? I can't seem to find any clear instructions. I just received my adapter and I've plugged it in to the micro USB port. The other end has the HDMI going to the TV, and unfortunately, there is no picture and no change on my Nexus device. Is there anything else I should be doing? Or perhaps I just have a defective adapter? Thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DaPhang:
I got my Kanex slimport and tried it. Doesn't work either. I tried with my Nexus 4 and it works, but intermittently when moving the HDMI cable connected to the slimport.

I noticed on the package it says "Connect a Nexus 4 or Optimus G Pro phone", what happened to the Nexus 7? They should work for both no?

I think I am going to just return this.

And I have confirmed that the aspect ratio is to the device so you get black bars all the way around on the TV.

Yes you can charge with the USB, but I didn't test it long enough since I can't even see anything on the screen. What a disappointment.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
That's the one I just received. How disappointing. It says on their website that it is meant to work with the Nexus 7. I tried on my Nexus 4 but couldn't get it to work either. You just plug it in, right? No special settings to enable on the phone or anything?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DaPhang:
Yeah, you should just be able to plug it in and it should play with no problem. Either quality is poor or something. I am worried that maybe my Nexus 7 may be defective, because Slimport may be using separate chips in the Nexus and only awakens when connected to the Slimport, I really don't want to read the whitepaper on how this is done, so if that is the problem, then I really don't want to exchange the N7 once again and get some other problem. I already contacted Kanex, I will see what my options are. Most likely will just return it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] swagstr:
Now, this may not help. But I used to have to turn my TV off (on the right input), plug in, then turn back - for MHL. Try doing the hokey pokey before giving up.

Side question: OTG and SlimPort... Together? Possible? Y-cable OTG?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] vagelis:
If you're using custom ROMs and kernels some earlier builds of CM and what's based on them were actually breaking slimport. Try alternate builds or revert to stock for your initial testing.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
Thanks for the suggestion. No dice, though. I do have CleanROM on my Nexus 7, but Nexus 4 is actually stock rooted and on 4.2.1.

I went ahead and ordered a different adapter from Amazon, and will contact Kanex today for likely a return. I'll let everyone know what they say, and if the other one is better.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] BrashL:
For what it's worth I got a Kanex Slimport adapter on Friday and it barely works with my Nexus 4. Very intermittent connection but if you breath on it to hard it cuts out. Returning it Monday and trying something else.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DaPhang:
Thanks for the info, same for my n4, does it work with your n7? Mine is not working, I am going to return too, Analogix it is then.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] shinkinrui:
Anyone willing to risk 15 bucks on this?

http://www.amazon.com/MH-041-BK-Slimport-adapter-Google-Tablet/dp/B00ECU3M22/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Blue Bomber:
itripes may

It works on my Nexus 7 2013. Got the same adapter on Sat. 100% plug and play, though does take a few seconds to kick in. And yeah, pillarbox'd. Gonna try that hack when I get home.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] NMSX:
I've just bought this one : w w w. ebay. com/itm/Slimport-MyDP-Micro-USB-to-HDMI-HDTV-1080p-3D-adapter-fo-google-2013-New-Nexus-7-/161086609356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25818297cc

Hope it works!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] pacman1891:
Is there any way to make it output 1920x1200 resolution? I have a 1920x1200 monitor and I want to fully utilize the resolution.

Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DaPhang:
Hmmm...I just tried mine again, this time with a different HDMI cable, works on both the n7 and n4. Yeah it takes a little while to kick in. For the n4 didn't have any issues anymore and for n7, I had to plug the slimport in first, then the HDMI cable, then if it didn't work, just unplug the HDMI cable and reconnect, once connected it works like a charm. I'll hang onto it until close to the thirty days and see.

I am not seeing any Anologix for a decent price, amazon selling for close to $100.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
I have very similar cable (bought from Chinese site for $2.99 or $3.99 long time ago - sorry, can't remember exact name & price). It worked fine with Nexus 4 (I bought just for video-out tests) and recently (when I've got my Nexus 7 АРВ) I've tested this cable with Nexus 7 - also working fine (if you perfectionist, you need adjust AR with some shell commands).

So, my point: do not waste money for the "brand name" expensive "adaptors"; buy a cheap Chinese cable and you're allset ;)

P.S. This cable has only one cons - stupid long standard USB connector but you can easily fix it with scissors (as I did) :laugh:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Blue Bomber:
Alright, just installed this guy's APK, and no more pillarbox! :D

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45005807&postcount=25

Height and width are reversed, and screen density should be around 288, but after that, perfect reproduction! Note that you need to be rooted for it to work.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] swagstr:
Link or it didn't happen ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
What "link"? If you really want, I can make a picture of the cable+Nexus+TV for you... But (as I told before) the order was made a long time ago (this year April-May?) from the corporate account by our company office manager (I've used this cable for the daily job purposes - our company product is the mobile video delivery solution), so unfortunately I don't have exact link right now, just a cable :)

P.S. I just made a few pics as a proof...

P.P.S. You want a link? Here we go! ;) Order 500 pieces by yourself and make a great business here :laugh:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] swagstr:
Damn! Thanks for the link. Guess I'm leaning towards the $15 one... Or starting a SlimPort distributing career.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
"I'm so sorry" is much shorter...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] swagstr:
Sorry.. I was just messin with my links post. Wasn't trying to stir nothing up. I remembered your mentioning of a $3 cord... Had to see proof. Thanks again!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
OK, thanks, no problems at all...

P.S. I'm a software engineer but have a knowledge in schematics too. What's why I'm trying to prevent xda members from over-paying for stuff...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
Yesterday, I received a different SlimPort adapter from an Amazon seller, and this one worked immediately. I've only tried on the Nexus 7 so far, but there are no connectivity issues whatsoever.

Unfortunately, the seller I bought from seems to be out of stock, but here is a link anyway to the exact one by Analogix Semiconductor. Maybe the seller will find a few more to put up for sale.

http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort-HDMI...2&sr=1-2&keywords=Analogix+Semiconductor,+Inc.

That Kanex adapter definitely was completely DOA for me. O amount of jiggling, moving, or switching the cable got it to work. I couldn't find a phone number to contact them, so I used their tech support web form, and still haven't gotten a response yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] everlast716:
Kanex sucks a$$

I am really disappointed in Kanex, first off because they say on their website that the new slimport adapter works with the NEW nexus 7 and it was a freaking lie, I've yet to find one person who had a quality connection and I am no different. I was able to connect the first time I hooked it up to the tablet but noticed a choppy feed on the tv as I was testing transformers and if the action picked up on screen the kanex wasn't able to handle it. After about 3 minutes of playing it constantly would lose signal, I tried 4 different hdmi cables and two tv's and no luck. How Kanexlive.com would send out such a shoddy product is beyond me. I have contacted them yesterday to set up a return with quite the livid message and will be going with the new Analogix Slimport 1003 which I found on here : http://www.mobilefun.com/37046-anal...apter-for-hd-mirroring-for-nexus-4-7-2013.htm and on Amazon.com this brand seems like the most reliable but I guess due to supply it was listed at cheapest around 100 dollars which was outrageous. The model I picked up is the newest and was 34.99 which isn't bad I guess considering I paid 29.99 for the piece of crap by Kanexlive.com. If it works I will be pleased...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] swagstr:
Here. $18.98 shipped from Cali. I'll report back when I receive it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
I bet, we'll see these cables on ebay for $10 with free shipping by the end of September ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
Interestingly, Kanex has posted an 'update' to their site's product page, viewable here:

http://www.kanexlive.com/slimport

It states there may be an issue with the recent update to 4.3. But I believe it is simply a faulty product, because it won't work with my Nexus 4, still on 4.2.1. I still haven't received a reply from them requesting an RMA number for product return. This is very disappointing, and I would advise anyone to stay away from Kanex products, even if they claim they've fixed it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] everlast716:
Kanex sucks a$$ pt 2

I received a support ticket response from Kanexlive.com today and this is what their excuse is, "The adapter does work with the Nexus 7 however there has been an issue with this batch of adapters which they have been fixed." Great quality control if you ask me, how do you finalize a product before thoroughly testing it out to make sure it isn't faulty. Ridiculous, the good thing is they said they will process my refund within 7-14 days and I don't have to return the item. It's going in the trash anyways because it is useless.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
Could you please remove cover/disassemble it carefully and make some pics instead?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] bailyc:
Same resolution here. At least it doesn't need to be shipped back.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] lilracerboi:
Hmm that's weird, I used the Kanex Adapter just fine on my Nexus 4 - which is 4.3 also..........

Actually I have the same update of Paranoid Android on both my Nexus 4 and 7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] zulugod:
I've been using this SlimPort adapter for the past week without issues. Think it's the same as the one above.

http://www.gadgets4geeks.com.au/pro...o-hdmi-adapter-cable-asus-google-nexus-7-2013
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] BrashL:
As soon as I get my refund approved I'll do it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Slymobi:
Got mine today and its working great.

Nexus⁴

Rooted,Android 4.3 cataclysm ROM with semaphore 1.5 kernel :thumbup:

Stock unrooted :thumbup:

only thing I noticed was while watching 2 episodes of Breaking Bad was that it actually discharged faster than it was charging. changed my power adapter to plug USB cable into now to the original N4 adapter so see how it is next time.

Happy days :D

NeXuS⁴
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] BrashL:
As promised, opened up Kanex adapter:

One of the solder contacts (yellow wire) broke pretty much as soon as I opened it. Other than that I have no clue what I'm looking at so enjoy.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
I've just received my Anologix Slimport adapter. It's working fine. It appears to output at Video (16-235) levels, so if your display is setup for PC levels (0-255) the picture will lack contrast.

Edit: I'm wrong it outputs PC levels.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Blue Bomber:
Hmmm, the Kanex one outputs full range to my monitors. The image from my Nexus 7 looks exactly the same as if I was playing it from my PC. Though for HDTVs, t might be better to do video range.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
Interseting, I will run some greyscale tests to confirm my initial observations.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] fceeviper:
Won't this one do the same? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C3AW40/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
No, that is a micro HDMI cable. The Nexus 7 does not have an HDMI output.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
Ok after some grayscale testing, I was wrong, it outputs PC levels. With VLC I tested will expand content to pc levels so everything looks correct.

In the rare case you have full level content, VLC will still apply the same expansion, which will crush everything below 16 and above 235.

If you are using an HDTV make sure to set the input level to Full or High, and calibrate your black level to a greyscale chart.

I also had a chance to do some Slimport output lag tests.

I used a stopwatch app and took photos of the tablet and my Samsung plasma with a 1/1600s exposure. Total lag is an average of 34ms. Considering my Samsung Plasma is known to have an input lag of around 20ms to 30ms depending on who you ask, that means the Analogix Slimport adapter has an output lag of about 4-14ms. I can't promise the other adapters are the same, although I expect they're similar.

That might annoy some hardcore gamers but at worst 14ms extra lag is pretty insignificant if you ask me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Blue Bomber:
Might have to try that out with my Kanex adapter. I know it has a LOT more lag than that, probably 1/4 second, no matter what display I use (HDTV, P-IPS and IPS monitors). Very noticeable, especially when playing Asphalt 8.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
I'll download that game and try some subjective testing. Perhaps the stopwatch app I used is not suitable, it's possible it measures milliseconds accurately but doesn't display them accurately in real-time. I'll experiment with some other apps and take some photos.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sfhub:
I think the lag will depend on your TV and input port as it decodes the HDCP.

I don't see any other process that could account for the lag. Demuxing the audio on the micro-usb line shouldn't take that much time.

You have encryption from phone to adapter, deencryption at adapter, reencryption from adapter to display, then decryption at the display.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] KevinZero:
It's really puzzling why Google included this functionality with their product yet they leave us to find a solution from unknown third parties on how to actually, reliably use the feature. It's stuff like this that makes Apple's approach look nicer. I'm no Apple fan, I've completely rid myself of iPods and anything else, but at least they give you the option of a high quality peripheral for virtually every feature their devices provide..even if it costs 5x what it should cost.

With Google not having official Slimport adapters as well as not having any high quality cases available right away at retail (Asus travel case does not count), it makes it look like they're going at this in a half-a$$ed way. Granted, they're a services company and not hardware, but if they're going to be in hardware at all then they need to make sure they've covered all bases. Hell, even partner with Belkin or Griffin if they don't want to use Asus for whatever reason.

If enough people get burned by these shoddy third party items then you can't blame them for not buying future versions. Rant over.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] k2thec:
eh i had the same problems trying to find a mhl adapter for my htc phone and eventually gave up. i have heard of these things working, but have never seen it myself. its like trying to find a unicorn trying these adapters
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] sensboston:
Do you really want a $50 adapter "directly from Google"? ;) Cheap Chinese stuff (in some cases of course!) works pretty fine; if you wanna save buck or two, wait for the end of September and order your cable for $10 :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] KevinZero:
But my point is that if Google did put their name behind an adapter, which would be reasonably priced in theory since that's what they try to do with the Nexus line in the first place, then you'd be sure they wouldn't put a typically shoddy lemon out that may or may not work like the current crap that's out there.

But hopefully the sub-$10 crap does come so at least it's worth the risk of trying out. I'm really hoping for a good quality adapter from Monoprice since they usually do really well with adapters and cables at great prices.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperspacey:
Google don't manufacture hardware, it would be Asus or LG who would make the Slimport adaptor, and as we've seen from their official accessories it would likely cost an arm and a leg.

The new Slimport-compatible Nexus 7 has only been out a month, I expect we might get an official accessory announcement some time around the new Nexus phone getting launched. I reckon $39.99-49.99 for it, going off the pricing of third-party units.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
So played a little Ashphalt 8. I'm not a pro at this game, but I found the controls to be responsive. I tried with both the tilt controls and touch controls. I did notice the framerate is a bit choppy with the slimport connected, but no serious input lag.

It may be just that I'm a noob at this game, but I don't find the steering particularly a good test of lag (it's kind of sluggish controls even without the slimport).

I'll try a shooter of some sort and do some comparisons. if there's difference of lag with different adapters, it's valuable infromation for potential buyers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] cobyman7035:
this is the one i got, 18 bucks i think off ebay , but it keeps disconnecting on my tv and nex7, i'll try to test on another tv and use another hdmi cable as well
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
Interesting, it has a USB male cable for charging while in use.

My analogix adapter has a female micro-USB connector for the same purpose. However, it can only charge at 150mA which only slows the discharge when watching HD video or gaming (which is probably bad for the battery).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] dazbear:
TV MHL enabled?

Hi there

Loving my new Nexus 7 (2013), but am used to mirroring my old Xoom2 onto my TV to watch movies etc. via HDMI. I have set about getting a slimport adapter, which is proving a difficult task in the UK. I got one from Amazon, but it doesn't work.

I read that in the Kanex T&C it states that your TV must be MHL enabled, something I read elsewhere too. My TV is a Samsung and about 5 years old. Am I out of luck?

I am now going for an Analogix cable which does have external DC option.

Will I be ok? Any ideas guys?

Thanks

Lewis
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Slymobi:
the one I posted a page or 2 back works perfect.

Still K!ckfl!pp!ng strong
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperspacey:
"MHL enabled"? MHL is a handset standard, not a TV one. And Slimport has nothing to do with MHL. So I've no idea what they're on about. Your TV will have to be HDCP enabled to allow content to be displayed though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
Kanex takes external DC aswell, but no Slimport adapter needs DC to work. It's just a feature to allow charging the device while using the adapter.

MHL compatibilty is not required for Slimport to work.

From the Kanex website: http://www.kanexlive.com/slimport
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] dazbear:
MHL enabled TV

I have gone ahead an ordered it - will let you know how it goes.

Interestingly enough, I've just passed an electronics store and many of the TV's were advertising "MHL enabled" and there was an 'MHL kitemark' logo on the boxes. So there must be something in it!

:)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] hyperspacey:
I've had a look into it, you can get MHL-compatible TVs that don't need an adaptor to talk to MHL-compatible devices, you just plug in a special MHL HDMI cable.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
Still all this talk about MHL? Slimport is not MHL.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] theinstagator:
I would like to ask if anyone has noticed a drop in wifi signal after connecting their nexus 7 to the tv via a SlimPort adapter? This was a problem with some MHL adapters and I don't want to purchase another adaptor to have the same problem again, thanks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Obveron:
I did not notice a drop in my signal, I will double-check this evening.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] adit9989:
On the TV side, an MHL connector just adds power lines on some unused pins on the HDMI connector this is all. Without this power you need an adapter with it's own power input.

On the phone side however MHL is totally different than Slimport. Both use some chip and electronic wizardry to switch the USB signals to HDMI signals depending on what cable you plug (and don't burn your phone when doing this). Slimport does not require power from the TV output so a simple HDMI connector and an adapter without any power input will work. It must be a Slimport adapter because MHL and Slimport are not compatible!.

PS. Some Slimport adapter, still have an optional power input to allow the phone to be charged in parallel, but will work without a power source connected to it. MHL adapters will not work without power, except when connected to an "MHL" marker HDMI connector on the TV.Once again, the adpaters are different as the chip and protocol used in the phone are different, so don't confuse MHL with Slimport.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] cobyman7035:
yes, mine drops connection, but i think its a defective one i got off ebay for 20bucks, u get what you pay for....might be im not on stock rom/kernel
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] Jewveeski:
Just got my slimport adaptor today and I gotta say it works very well with my N7 , I like that I can charge it at the same time that's what sold me on this . 18 bucks on eBay

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400555392264
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] BartJJ:
What version of the software are you using? Mine works terribly on the latest software >.>

Also,

Does anyone know of a slimport adapter that doubles as mhl? seems dumb but I'd rather not have to buy two different adapters (one for my note 2 & one for the new nexus =D)

Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] n7of9:
did you test elsewhere? this is the one i have also and i just tested it and it didn't work (kept disconnecting, when it stayed connected long enough the audio was in and out every 3 seconds)...did you test on stock ROM, because i did not
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] AnarchoXen:
Ha! The price is $118 now...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] DC_MTP:
isn't this the same thing and way cheaper!

http://www.cecompass.com/slimport-m...tore=default&gclid=CLi_xaO41bkCFcuZ4Aod5hAAMg

only $18.65

EDIT: another link...cheaper $15.00 and pics included

http://www.cable.cc/slimport-mydp-h...xus-4-e960-2013-new-nexus-7-tablet-p-410.html
[Nexus 7 (2013) Accessories] AnarchoXen:
Looks the same. I noticed the one posted in the beginning of the thread had changed to 112 USD or something silly. I guess they see an influx of orders and raise the price...:cowboy: