yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ascar1s:
Alright, here you go. You can see the clear "dead zones" in both orientations. With the tablet in horizontal orientation you can see the gaps even on the smooth lines produced by moving my fingers inordinately slowly. (And, the dead spots are visible with the tablet in vertical as well.) Needless to say, the gaps in the lines are not the result of lifting my finger.

And, it may not be a particular "fissure" after all as much as dead "spots", but it certainly was behaving as though there was an invisible line that my finger could not cross without it registering as having lifted off the screen... Either way, it's broke(n).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Coronado is dead:
Is this while being held or on a table/bed?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] looney2388:
I replied earlier saying I had the issue and got rid of it. I don't have this issue anymore. I am on JSS15J build. I am using latest version of CM 10.2 and jassy kernel. I got it in a case with a illumishield screen protector.

I simply went into recovery and wiped cache and dalvik cache. See if this works for you, that's how I got rid of this issue. Did the yamitt test and was successful. No more touch issues :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Sud0lit3:
As I've been telling everyone do what the following link/post says

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44494234&postcount=316

if at that point you have no issues then you're probably golden
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] phazerorg:
I tried this on rooted stock JSS15J and there was no change for me. I still have all the same touch issues as before wiping cache and dalvik cache. It's awesome this worked for you (I wish I had your luck!), but it doesn't seem to be a universal fix, unless it's also related to your kernel or CM.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] texnnyc:
Private video :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ascar1s:
Me? That was being held.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
Sorry, I removed the private from my video with the OTG plug.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
I took that same plug and remove the platic and pins, kept the plug to use as a ground for my hand and a temporary fix.

Edit: It also means that the pins have noting to do with it just the outside metal ground.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQD5beyA4zU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
Hah, hah, I was watching your video and lo and behold what do I see in the related video section on the side?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypEh4vOVkI

So this has been an issue since Nexus 7 2012 and has crossed over to Nexus 7 2013. It actually seems to have gotten worse in 2013. In 2012 it just seemed to lose track when you crossed the planes. In 2013, sometimes you'll get random ghost taps anywhere on the screen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
I never had touch problems with my 2012 N7. For those that recall the issue, was it resolved? If so, was it via a software update?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lyall29:
While I'm in the browser and touch the right side of the screen with 2 fingers about 2 inches apart, and hold them there for a bit, my screen goes crazy and eventually launches Google now.:eek:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] iorikun:
I finally updated my replacement 16GB Flo with 15J since Netflix and MX player wasn't working without it. And so far, I have not run into any multi touch issue *fingers crossed*.

I did however run into an issue where the OTA update wouldn't reboot by itself, so I ended up using one of the factory images from the general section.

Just another data point for you guys...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lyall29:
I just tried the test while charging and I still have the same problem. I also went into the browser and when I pinch to zoom, the screen goes crazy there too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Simer03:
well it looks like Paul from the GOogle discussion said theyre looking into it so just gotta wait and see i guess
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Elmoglick:
If it were a software issue, it would be affecting all devices in a similar fashion. My first unit had severe ghost presses so I exchanged it and the replacement works perfectly, running the same firmware and software. This would seem to strongly indicate a screen calibration (hardware) issue,
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
W/o question, there is some difference in the hardware.

However that doesn't tell you whether the core problem is hardware or software.

For example if you had 2 different suppliers for the digitizer and the drivers for one of them was at issue, that would be a scenario where the hardware accounted for the difference, but the software was at fault.

On the other hand if all the hardware is from the same vendor and same revision and it is behaving differently, that would more likely be a hardware problem. It could still be software though as sometimes hardware has different acceptable variances and if the drivers don't account for it, they can get confused.

Even considering the case where the problem is hardware, sometimes they can workaround the problem in software.

In the worst case, it is a hardware problem and nothing can be done about other than replace it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
This has finally made android news

http://www.talkandroid.com/171404-s...reporting-problems-with-faulty-touch-screens/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trvbone:
I wish we had an idea on the next batch production date...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
who cares? just buy it now and enjoy the device since its the best bang for your buck

once newer builds come out, do a warranty exchange for it

from what I recall, those who had problems with the original n7 were successfully able to exchange it for a newer build without issues via warranty
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trvbone:
Cool I'm actually on my second Lol I love the thing
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] osolot729:
Ghost taps

I have noticed this too. Got the 32gb from best buy. I thought it was just me getitng use to the touch sensitivity but i installed the multi touch test app and I have alot of ghost taps all over the place. Going to wait a day or two see if it is a software patch if not will exchange it. Thank you for posting the app that was used to test this. First android device and initially got concerned about the quality of it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ckisgen:
I downloaded YAMTT and could not reproduce any of those issues.

no phantom touches, no multitouch issues, etc.

it detected all of my inputs just fine with no ghost touches or anything else.

I also don't have any issues with the keyboard (swiping, double letters for one touch, missed letters) nor any problems moving icons around on the home screen.

I use Nova Launcher Prime and am on a 32GB model I picked up in store from Best Buy first thing Friday morning.

by chance, any of you guys with issues rooted? if so, which version of SuperSU are you on? I did have a couple of CPU issues with the initial 1.43 version of SuperSU (CPU getting stuck at 1.5mhz) but don't recall any specific multitouch probs on it. ever since I flashed v1.45, those issues went away.

..but it sounds like some to most of you with issues are likely just running stock/not rooted and sounds to me like a hardware issue at this point.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] The Holocron:
I downloaded YAMT, also, and tested it on my N7FHD. Multi-touch seems to work just fine without any eccentricity.

I also tested it in paint mode. That was a little stranger, as it was only dots if I moved my finger around fast. The line was obviously more solid the slower I moved my finger.

I then went and installed one of my old notepad apps and a sketchbook app. Both worked fine with no slipping.

I did notice some responsiveness issues with multi-touch in SpashtopHD...but that is an old app I had left over from when I had an Asus Transformer. This issue it what prompted me to test it after seeing this thread.

Overall, I'd say I have no issues at this point with my screen and multi-touch responsiveness.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jxr94:
In an update to my situation, I downloaded yamtt, and I am unable to replicate. At first I thought was getting phantom touches, but what actually was happening is that I was letting my finger off the screen sometimes. I'm used to a matte screen protector so this glass is new for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jiggytom:
I'm getting the same behavior as the OP... Possible it's software?

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I flashed 1.43 but I'm on 1.45 of the apk.. Is that good enough or I have to reclaim?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jiggytom:
Has anyone tried wiping to see if it would fix the problem?

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I just installed the jaspy custom kernel and did supersu update to 1.5, and now issue seems to be gone
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jiggytom:
Actually, it still happens sort of when I have it on top of my wireless charger... But when it's in my hand, seems to be okay. Will keep monitoring

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Actually still happening.... But it seems to come and go. Another good way to show this happening is using the developer tools to turn on pointer location... You can see it going crazy when this happens..

For me it happens most when I line up my two fingers vertically as if I was pinch zooming... And I get shadow touches in between them.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
im also getting the same issue...it has to be software related
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] snowglyder:
Mine is doing this as well. Glad it's not just me. Constant mistyped keys, especially on the QWERTY row. If I use YAMTT and places my thumbs on the same level around where that row would be, I get ghost touches jumping back and forth between my thumbs. I noticed the power button is hard to press as well. I wonder if this is a bad hardware batch.

Got mine at Best Buy. Should I replace it or wait for a software update? The previous post with power button issues makes me think it's hardware though, especially since the replacement doesn't have these issues.

Also, I received both OTA updates and factory reset after each. I'm stock, not rooted.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] skyhawk21:
Had the same issues after updating nexus 7 2013 #1 to the js15 firmware, although not that bad. decided to exchange it.

As soon as I got Nexus 7 2013 #2 from the same staples store in town, before updating the firmware a second time and it was on the 66n firmware, i tested it multiple times in hand and on my lap in car, no multitouch issues at all!

Then I update this one to the latest and greatest firmware and of course now in hand or on lap or in case or on desk getting craziness even more than I did on the first one with touch. i touch with two fingers moving it all around or pinch to zoom and the touch and graphics in the touch tester apps all of them goes crazy and jumps around, acts like im not touching it, doesnt register, register ghost touches and so forth and so on, one thing I notices is both nexus 7 were close in serial number and batch number so it could be hardware or once again software because it did not do this out of the box before updating!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] nba1341:
Same experience js15 = touch problems

66n = works perfect

Is it possible to downgrade?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
Yep, same here

That is why it works great out of box and messes up after updating
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bsteiner36:
Finally

I finally found people who are having the same issue as me. I tried changing the pointer speed which seemed to have worked but the next morning the issue was back again more than ever. I am going to return mine to best buy and either get a new one or just keep my original nexus 7. I tried swype key and it still does not fix the issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
Strike 3. I'm returning it.

I have updated the original post. Unfortunately, this issue is still present on my third device after all. It is less severe, but it's enough that it annoys me. (To be fair, I am probably hypersensitive to this issue. I'm willing to bet many people would simply dismiss this problem as "Android being Android".)

I'll keep up to date with this problem and re-purchase when a clear resolution presents itself. I don't want to take the risk that it's hardware related and be stuck with a gimped experience.

Good luck everyone and may God have mercy on your soul. ;)

J
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] EL Sa7eR:
I haven't buy the tablet yet and I think to buy it online from google so have any one faced the problem with them and was it easy to exchange the product ?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
Every body needs to calm down

It's a software issue with the latest build
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
I'm pretty calm. I'm not convinced there's enough evidence to support the claim that it's a software glitch. With that said, I hope you're right and will repurchase the second that I feel there's a genuine fix.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] notmilk:
I have bought two new Nexus 7, a 16gb and 32gb.

both giving the same problem, when i'm holding the tablet while laying down, the touch screen problem goes crazy sometimes, just like many of you describing. but the problem seems less severe when i'm not laying down on bed... this really needs to be fixed otherwise i will return them
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
I wouldn't call exchanging it 3 times is staying calm. Plus everyone is saying it worked fine out of the box and causing issues after the update

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I wouldn't call exchanging it 3 times is staying calm. Plus everyone is saying it worked fine out of the box and causing issues after the update
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
I think returning a possibly defective product is a pretty reasonable response. To me, keeping it is a tacit approval of releasing semi-broken products.

I'm not comfortable with assuming everything will be fixed with a software update. Again, I'll repurchase if/when it's straightened out.

Regards.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
Looks like Ill be exachanging my iPad Mini back next week for this if google really does something. (sigh of relief)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
What makes you so sure that Google's going to do something?

And why trade the mini back if you're having problems?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
I don't know but I can only hope. Lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Simer03:
I was gonna buy my Gf a first gen n7 but I think what I'm gonna do is wait til they fix the issue (hopefully) and then buy from the new batch and give her my current one! Now we just need Paul and/or Google to hit us with an update on the situation!

Sent from my HTC One
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] texnnyc:
I'm holding off until the new batch comes out AND it's been played with enough to assure the problems are gone. I will not ever buy an iPad! :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lyall29:
That's it, I can't take it any more. I can't type, I can't scroll on web pages and the screen is unresponsive. I am going back to Best Buy. Maybe I'll get a note 8 or Tab 3 8". I really like the ppi on the nexus but now the tablet is unusable.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] evilhunter101:
Exactly what I'm doing now. Just returned my N7 today due to this and an insanely hard to press power button. It was almost flush with the body. Probably could have put up with the erratic screen, but the power button was just too much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Simer03:
Yeah dude, my Gf is fine with waiting too so I'm definitely gonna be a bit more patient and deal with this problem until then! I really only have the problem when playing games, otherwise browser and multi touch tests work just fine! It happens when I play Pokemon, and I try pressing B and a d pad button, I press left and it goes down lol

Sent from my HTC One
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aimfire72:
Same here, getting a Note 8 this afternoon. I thought the build quality on the N10 was bad, but this new N7 is even a bigger mess.

Here's an idea: Why can't Google release something like an "N7 Pro" model for $100 more with premium materials and build quality? I'm sure lots of us here would jump at that.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] misha25:
I returned mine before the Best Buy 15 days were up last Thursday. Not worth dealing with the issue not knowing what it might be.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aimfire72:
Warranty exchanges (through the manufacturer) are a pain in the balls. Gotta deal with RMA numbers, mailing it back, waiting for a few weeks while tablet-less... Usually send out refurbished units that were probably sent in for the same reason you sent yours in, lol. Just return to the store now and wait a month or so.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
I have a 60 day return/exchange period via premiere silver at best buy.....ill just exchange it on the 59th day if they ever fix it
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
Agreed. I find the voices in this thread who say "oh stop complaining and mail it to ASUS if/when they find a solution" completely baffling.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] texnnyc:
That's a great idea!!! That extra $100 would make so many folks so much happier and give them piece of mind!

Reminds of HP printers. Back in the day, those were the standard to which all others were judged. Now, they make flimsy crap that breaks way too often. I got rid of my old 1100A (going strong after 15+ years) only because the scan function wasn't supported in Win7. Picked up a Canon ImageClass that is built with the same heavy-duty build as my old HP!

Google - You listening?? Probably at least $50 profit for you!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Sud0lit3:
uh how about they just make a good solid device. who the hell cares if its a bit more expensive. If it's guaranteed to work 100% of the time then I'm happy knowing that this brand is golden rather than "mmm they ****ty version or the premium expensive version..."
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] texnnyc:
I'd pay more knowing it's made well and has gone through a rigorous QA ...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aimfire72:
I agree, it would be a perfect world if they just made a good solid device. Problem is, it's very difficult to do that at the N7 price point. They have to cut corners somewhere.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Sud0lit3:
for sure but when they cut critical corners such as this which can render the device useless in certain applications which leads to unhappy customers and high return rates. then it begs the question did the company make much profit? now they have unhappy customers on their hand which may or may not purchase from them again in the future. and it has set a bad rep and name for the company itself. as each day goes by I start to think asus is a piece of trash. I used to have high expectations from them but ever since the transformer tablet and now this my respect for them is going down the drain...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
Possibly, but GPS, multi-touch, and not rebooting randomly are pretty basic functionality.

I have much less expensive devices that don't have these problems.

To me, if you have these sorts of issues with basic functions, it wasn't about the price point, but rather something is missing from the development/productin/testing cycle, which should have caught this stuff pre-production. This is the case regardless of whether these end up being hardware or software problems.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aimfire72:
I'm in no way defending them, lol - I bought 3 and have exchanged/returned them all.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jiggytom:
Made it on Engadget!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] texnnyc:
It may also be the "jack of all trades, master of some" phenomenon. Asus does some things very well (mobos, peripherals) and they perhaps hope to capitalize on experience and go into other markets. This didn't *quite* seem to work out. Stick to your knitting, guys. If you can't make something worthy of your name, then don't make it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Damn it, I had my heart set on getting this, ever since my three year old broke my first generation N7. I miss having a nexus device. :( I'll probably buy it, set it up in the store and install YAMTT. If it fails the test, will exchange on the spot. :D

Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1! :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lessthanzach:
It's completely random though. Mine will start missing all touch input unless I press and hold, it's resolved only by rebooting. I didn't notice it until the second day.

I'll be exchanging mine today. I get this feature about once or twice a day along with a cluster of about (I'm guessing) 5-6 dead pixels and 2 stuck pixels that are white.

Don't really care about the pixels, but the touch screen issues are really huge.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bckrupps:
Link? Couldnt find it. I think the issue is definately a grounding problem. I had no issues until i put it in a case. If i hold it with the case on or off its great but if i set it down on my bed or pillow to read at night it is horrible yet if my hand is on it its perfect again.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] phazerorg:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/13/2013-nexus-7-multitouch-bug/

Very first result of searching for "nexus 7 touch" on Engadget.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] simoncousins:
Adding my N7 (2013) to the thread. I see what others have called "ghost taps" but it feels to me like the digitizer is too sensitive. Sometimes if my finger lingers on a spot for more than maybe 200ms it registers as a click (almost always while hand held). Drives me nuts. YAMTT however seems to show accurate tracking on my unit, and the power switch is responsive.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Lexord:
I'm getting one tomorrow, but these issues are really making me doubt about it, I can't exchange it, because I'm going tto my country (outside USA), Would you guys risk?

:(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] canoo:
I would seriously recommend against getting one especially if you can't return it. You could always test it out with YAMTT in store to see if it's got touch issues. Update it right to JSS15J and lay it on an ungrounded surface though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Lexord:
Ooh, that's a good idea! I'm in!

Thanks dude :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Sud0lit3:
so i ended up returning mine and im going going to wait now. The 32Gig is coming soon to canada and ill wait it out until september and get one then when its fine tuned a bit more
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] parmend:
I hope they can fix this . I just exchanged mine and havent updated it yet I'm on jwr66n and the touchscreen is horrible . definitely a grounding issue .
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] notoriouspk:
google needs to address this issue ASAP along with GPS .
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
First I had the GPS issue.

Now second one GPS is fine, but multitouch no good.

Now I formatted my device for return and the touch screen works. I don't get it :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] :
Got a question guys. I know on the HTC one and some other phones they have firmwares as well as ROMs. Firmwares being like touch fixes that are incorporated and stuff that deal with hardware and ROMs as in software things like 4.2.1 act and the s4 has ROMs only that do both hardware and software fixes if need be... If I had a jss ROM but never took the ota do I have the full firmware and ROM or just the ROM? Hope that makes sense. Thanks
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Having same issues on CyanogenMod... Don't think this is firmware or software..
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] delfin2003:
Firmware will not be located in the kernel or rom, it will be most likely be located on the touchscreen controller chip itself, at least from my understanding. I wouldn't expect cyanogen mod to fix anything with touchscreen issues as in most likely event their kernel is actually based off JSS15J kernel. I'm waiting for google to chime in on this as they are aware of the issue...supposedly :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
That makes sense and if different chips came from different factories different firmware on the chip possible... Maybe system is looking for certain range specific to a certain firmware level but finding unexpected answer and giving bad data...

Who knows... But I am not waiting :(