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[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] PJ Clifford:
Just got it yesterday. I've only played with it a little so far. Basically got TWRP installed and SU and just played with it some. So, far, I haven't seen any problems with the touch screen. GPS works initially, but I haven't wrung it out yet to see if the disconnect issue is there. I have 15 days, but I really don't want to return it, so that may be moot
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] PJ Clifford:
I reread this and you make a strong argument for upgrading. I just finished upgrading to JSS15Q. I still haven't played with the GPS a lot, but it DOES seem to lock on to the satellites much quicker.I took the N7 for a walk around the neighborhood and it stayed with me the whole time. Definitely not a comprehensive test, but it is certainly no worse than it was before...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Update has not fixed GPS for me on two units now
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
You have a voodoo curse and black cloud over you whenever you are near a nexus 7. :) Are you up to 20 units yet?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Well I finished treating the GPS with good results. The stock rooted JSS15Q build works perfect. I tried with a CM build based on JSS15Q and it still had the bug. I'm really happy with googles response time on this considering the 2012 Nexus 7 is still having WiFi issues :thumbup:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
I am beginning to think I am suffering same issue using CM, despite the newer kernel it still is broken. Can we apply the GPS fix / kernel on top of CM?

Hahaha it's true. I am guessing yeah, around 20 units. I go from Staples to Staples as I travel for work, so they don't look at me like I'm scamming them. I just want a working unit =P

Google should give me a retainer for all the beta testing I have been doing for them :D

I just really want this thing to work. It is exactly what I want.. just need it to WORK :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
I am not sure which of your posts I responded to, but the fix isn't in the kernel.

This fix for GPS will probably work for you too, but I can't say for sure as I haven't personally run it on CM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2421373
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] albertkao:
Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB GPS unreliable

My Nexus 7 is 16GB Wifi 2013 (second gen) version.

It is updated to the latest version of the stock firmware (OTA. No rooting).

i.e.

Android 4.3.

Build JSS15R.

The GPS is still unreliable.

The Navfree and OsmAnd apps will run from several to 10+ minutes and will stop because GPS is off.

I live in Ottawa, Canada.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
I just had an idea. This could be related to which apps we have installed, like it could be something like Ingress locking it up. I'm going to make a file in Google Drive for everyone with the issue to list any apps that have GPS permissions, so maybe we can narrow it down to an app
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thenewmalcolm:
+1
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Here's the spreadsheet. I doubt apps are the issue now after playing with it some more. Looks like the GPS driver is just crashing, which explains why it is fixed on a reboot
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
So I was having the same GPS issue, and on a whim I turned off "scanning always available" in settings, Wi-Fi, advanced. After that, GPS functioned correctly over 8 hours, including launching maps, GPS status, and earth. I successfully navigated home after work, a 20 minute commute with no issues. I've checked in twice since and GPS still connecting properly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] motoyola:
Try using the GPS nav and map app, it's a standalone GPS navigation app. Sad to say, I'm GPS lock is on and off
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mrc13an:
I received an update to Google Maps v7.0.2 and tested this on a short 2-3 mile trip yesterday morning instead of just in the driveway.

My GPS connected quickly at home and worked reliably on the way to my destination at slow neighborhood speeds. At my destination, I did not make any changes other than to slide Maps off of the recent apps screen. When leaving back home, I was not able to get any location lock. Half way home, I stopped and rebooted my Nexus 7. Starting the Google Maps application again, I got a GPS lock in just a few seconds and everything worked fine on the rest of the way home.

I have uninstalled the Google Maps update and downloaded GPS Status. I take the same trip again this morning and will retest.

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At least on my device, that option is disabled by default, possibly because of my location settings either on initial setup or afterwards. Regardless of how it got disabled though, I am experiencing this problem even when this setting is disabled.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mortzz:
Worked for me, thanks!

Edit: it works but only for about five minutes before it loses the stops and loses the signal. It won't work until I reboot, then it just does it again. I hope Google fixes this quick.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Kev1000000:
After much debugging, this definitely looks like an issue of multiple apps trying to use the GPS. Since a factory reset, I have only used one app that accesses the GPS (Maps) and have had no issues. I will not be installing any additional apps that use GPS until this is resolved.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mrc13an:
I found that the same symptoms were present using Google Maps v7.0.1. After rebooting at my destination, the GPS Status app showed 10 satellites available and quickly received a fix. When I showed back up at home, the same symptoms were present. This rules out the Maps v7.0.2 update and poor GPS signal at either location as a cause of the problem.

I experienced this problem when I had also only used Google Maps to access GPS data on my tablet, so there must be more to it. As a side note, you will likely always have more than one GPS capable app on your phone unless you go to some real effort to remove others. For example, the camera app can access the GPS subsystem as well to geotag photos if you let it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
On stock I can easily go through 6-8hrs of constant usage never seeing the GPS indicator in the status bar area. I disabled camera geotag right at the beginning.

For me, only using maps works fine also. I have various GPS apps installed, but am not running them. Once I run them even once (including Google Earth, GPS Status, etc) it may not immediately get into never lock mode, but eventually it will get there.

Obviously this is unacceptable long term, but getting clues whether this is a software or hardware issue may give people more or less confidence (depending on the info) whether to keep the unit and wait for a fix or return it as hopeless.

Also in the short term it may allow someone to get some usage out of the unit by altering their GPS usage behavior. For some people it will just be unusable it the current state.

For me, I have a phone where I do most of my GPS-related stuff. I am fine just using Maps on the tablet for now. Again, for others, that might not be the case.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] ogeretla:
mine is really bad it does not track me hardly at all I ingress and even in Google Maps it does not track me hardly at all..... it will not lock my location 100 percent on any applicatioN... this is pretty ridiculous
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
I was thinking it might be a good idea for everyone to respond in this support thread just to give them a little extra push to fix it.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/prfUDZA7M2s/uElc_4OKRksJ
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
For everyone having GPS issues, can you post what version of Google Play Services you have? Go to Settings --> Apps --> All --> Google Play services. I'm wondering if the new version that's currently rolling out fixes it. I didn't get the update yet so it's still verision 3.1.59.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] tommy_2q:
I think I solved my GPS problem with a factory reset. I did not register a Gmail account during initial setup. I then used a new Gmail not associated with any other device to prevent restoring of apps and messing up the GPS in the process.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
You know you can use your regular Gmail address and leave the restoring option unchecked right?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] tommy_2q:
No I didn't read before clicking in my excitement. I figured Google would just make everything work properly. Thank you for the tip.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
I have gps probs too w/ new nexus 7

I too am having gps lock/searching options....googled everywhere. Test many setting options/clearing/disabling myself. Obviously you can get the gps working if you reboot, only use 1 app, and Don't Move.

But if you get in the car and run a navigation app, the gps eventually looses it's lock, and it will keep searching forever.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sshams95:
I'm on 3.1.59 w/GPS issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
I just updated my play services to 3.2.25 and will do my best to test
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
Did you manually update it yourself or did you get it via the Play Store?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
Manually. Found it here http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...through-google-play-services-3-2-25-download/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
That's where I saw it too. I decided to hold off for now after I read this part though:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
so based on this thread is it safe to assume my navigation stopping after a minute or so and never gaining signal again until reboot is a software not a hardware issue? lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Yup. That's why I started this thread. I didn't want to ship a near perfect device (1 dead pixel in the corner) back to Amazon over a software issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
ahhh thanks. really sux =[

I am subscribed now.... seems like I am always waiting for bug fixes with every new device... just had the OG Nexus 7 right where I wanted it then I have to go and upgrade to bleeding edge =/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
Yeah, I checked that out and the icon seems fine to me. Besides, you can always uninstall the updates.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
Just wanted to report in after upgrading play services yesterday. GPS still functions correctly after 20 hours. I've tried to trip it up with 30 navigation, switching between maps, GPS status, and earth. Still works. Will continue to test.

Note, I previously disabled the scanning always available setting on Wi-Fi advanced settings.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
Work Around

Yes, disabling Google Play services has finally worked for me.

1 disable Google Play services (after deleting the cache and data)

2 just for good measure, delete/reset the gps A-gps data, using one of your gps apps

3 reboot

Mine worked on the road/car, with multiple maps open. I even forced it to loose the signal, and it reconnected................IT NEVER DID THIS BEFORE. Reconnection was key for me to find a temporary solution. Therefore, it certainly appears to be a software bug, and if it's not in Google Play services, it's something related.

This does not mean I'm going to keep this until beyond my "return" date, as if depends on Google's ability to fix this before then, and letting us know.

This is the same work around proposed by Paul Wilcox in the Google Groups thread about this issue: "OK everyone, thanks for confirming my questions from a couple of pages ago, as well as the info that disabling Google Play Services seems to be a workaround. My Android engineering colleagues are investigating this issue.

By the way, in case you're not aware several components of Android use Google Play Services so disabling that can have some unintended consequences on the functionality/performance of your device. For example the Hangouts app won't work without enabling Google Play services."

Now, someone mentioned an update just worked for them? What update? I've gotten no update. Please post your google maps and google play services versions in future posts.

Mine continues to have problems unless I disable google play services.

Google Maps: 7.02

Google Play Services: 3.1.59
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
That'd be me. Check my post top of this page with link to manually update to play services 3.2.25
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
Thanks for that. Guess what, I got the 3.2.25 update naturally today....no apk upload. AND, I think it has fixed my gps lock problems and my people services syn (which i had disabled because it wasn't syncing)....

This could be good news.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
That jives with my results so far...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
I did more testing...many scenarios, lost signal, moving, multiple apps. I continues to work for me....due to 3.2.25 update

If true, that was a pretty good response time from Google.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
I just updated to the new services but can't lock on to any satellites. It thinks I'm in Montreal...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aiiee:
It told me I was in Alberta Canada when I was in Cleveland OH
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] spyderfry:
I received the update, but im still not getting consistent locks. If I do get a lock, it doesn't last for long.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Kev1000000:
The latest update also has not solved the problem for me. Still losing lock and requiring a restart to fix it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Just realized I was testing the GPS with the new update under a copper roof. Herp derp
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
I wonder what I'm doing wrong? I haven't rebooted in 4 days. I've used maps, navigation for several 35 minute commutes, earth, GPS test, GPS status and tool box, orux maps, lotus maps, not to mention Facebook and several weather apps and MY GPS STILL WORKS. All I have done is disable the GPS always on function, updated to newest play services, and made sure to have a good view of the sky every time I fire up the GPS.

Tell me how to replicate this problem. Please. Otherwise, all I can diagnose is user error.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Your Logic = total fail

Massive amounts of people have trouble with something that should just work and has been forever and it's user error?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
There's no logic in my statement. On the other hand there's no logic in yours either. Why not just be helpful?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
helpful? by stating that a known issue which Google engineers are researching is "user error"?

the logic and helpfulness of my statement is to nullify your counterproductive statement.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] rxnelson:
You logic was user error.

Get over yourself. There are multipage threads on multiple forums of people reporting the same issue and a report on the product forums detailing this specific issue by multiple users. You win though. We are all too stupid to open maps. We can't figure out how to open GPS test. We are lost. (Pun intended)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
I think you guys are missing my point. But I'll concede, I must be an idiot because I can no longer replicate the problem many people seem to have. Sorry to have bothered you two.

I'll continue testing, trying to replicate. Why do I care? I need t the GPS on the nexus 7 to work for a long term field project, so being able to replicate problems is important to knowing if this will eventually work for me. So far I like what I see, but the frequent complaints are worrisome.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Just tried using GPS on an hour drive. Locked up around the 15 minute mark with the new Play Services. Started music, started nav, and drove off. So the issue is definitely still here. I loaded up GPS Test as soon as it locked up and was showing 8/10 satellites connected, but they appeared to just be frozen there. I'm still going to stick with my theory of a bug in the GPS drivers.

And guys, please stay away from personal attacks. This thread is to try and diagnose, and give status updates on the GPS issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
So someone on android central suggested to me that I may not have tested for long enough. So, I just let it sit on maps for an hour an lo and behold GPS lost signal. While I never meant to insult anyone, I offer my apologies nonetheless. I hope there are no hard feelings.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] hyperxguy:
I had no Sat locks from day one. Then I followed the suggestions to ONLY allow one app which access GPS.

I disabled all the apps which may use GPS (Maps, Earth, GPS Test .., I didnot touch Google services) -->

My Sygic app starts working fine since yesterday without fail. I used it for one-hour drive and everything worked beautifully.

Just now, I re-enabled all those apps and my GPS is still working fine, switching between them or starting one after closing the other.

I will use Sygic for a long drive to work tomorrow and update the result.

Update: it sucks again !! While moving between the (GPS) apps, I lost all the Sats.

Disabled all the (GPS) apps and Sygic works fine again (after a reboot).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] The Holocron:
I was on the latest version of Google Play Services and uninstalled it to the factory version. I wanted to see if this would help with the GPS. It did not.

Is there a way to update the Google Play Services or will it do this automatically at some point?

UPDATE: GPS is working fine, when I'm not encased in the concrete coffin known as my office. Duh.

Still need to restore Google Play Services to latest version..will likely just wait for the next OTA.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
not working again

I was mistaken, I do indeed loose the GPS lock after some time navigating, and it won't reconnect without a reboot.......this is with 3.2.25
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
Play may be a contributing factor, but the problem most likely is in the OS.

I have all the google services (including play) disabled and can still get into the GPS stopped responding (won't lock) state.

I can make it usable by only using one gps app and never starting any other GPS app, but that is pretty unworkable long-term. It is just to confirm the GPS hardware itself works ok.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] streetracer8605:
I really hope this gets resolved. This was my whole argument to my wife on why we should get this tablet since we both already have the note 10.1 I wanted this to be small and portable and so that we can use it as a gps unit when we travel
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Returned mine today... I will not be beta testing Google experiments
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] b22ri22an:
GPSTether

my stop gap till google/asus resolves this issue

my nexus 7 is always tethered to my s4 anyway so I just tether the GPS and tablet talk over the same connection... when the problem is resolved I'll probably use the internal GPS again but for now I don't feel like f'n with it. so $3 wasn't hard to part with as a temp solution

EDIT: There is some proof that it is a software issue, before I started tethering the GPS I noticed the GPS trying to lock even with location services turned off completely.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
I had this thing out on the motorcycle all day Sunday. I was good while moving, but once stopped for any length, the GPS drops out. Gotta turn it off and on to get the GPS to lock back on. Using Sygic for the first time it took 10 mins easy to get a first lock. Google maps is much the same but I was getting a good connection while moving. Longest lock was for over an hour. (until Google maps went all fuzzy because of a lack of connection)

Shame as this is supposed to be my GPS killer? I've had a Zumo 550 since 2006 but that screen is just so darn small. I love the idea of this 7 inch, but for god's sake fix the f'ing GPS. IMO this is a glaring issue. GPS killer? They gotta get on this now!

Also this 7.0 maps has no access to My Maps. I generally make routes then follow them. making a route direct on the Nexus isn't going to happen, so making them online via Google maps was great. Now with no access to my Maps, it kinda kills the point. I deleted maps 7.0 and installed 6.9.1. I now have access to My maps and the maps I create online, but the display is a bit wonky. They gotta fix this as well and add My Maps back to 7.0!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] pacman1891:
I have a Bluetooth GPS reciever from the Windows Smartphone era, and I use this app "Bluetooth GPS" on the Nexus 7 to connect to it and the solution works great for now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] joshmcd89:
I am currently 3 straight days into testing. Using gps heavily. Maps, ingress, iitc, gps test.

The fix for me was to uninstall all updates to google maps, reboot. And its not flinched, glitched, or broke. Before it would break after 10 minutes.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trio151:
I was having gps problems with it not working but i uninstalled the updates to google maps and now things seem to be working great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] patrickoneal:
How about Waze? That drops out the fastest for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
Wow, blast from the past, thanks for reminding me I still had one of those bluetooth gps keychain things lying around from WM days. It works awesome. Never have to see that silly blinking GPS circle (or even the solid one) Mock locations is a great feature to implement workarounds.

I've heard some apps want direct access to NMEA data instead of going through the standard location API so maybe I won't be as happy as I run through my apps, but for now, this is great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kmartburrito:
Wow, all the problems!!

This issue was purportedly fixed when Google rolled out the new version of play services. It's obviously a software issue on one of their flagship nexus devices, so expect it to not be a long term issue.

Can you most recent posters confirm you're still seeing issues, even after the google play services update that happened on Monday? Go into settings --> apps --> all tab, and go to Google Play Services. The newest version from what I can tell and the one that should have the proper working GPS is 3.2.25

Seems like a lot of folks are saying it's fixed after that update.

I've not had a single issue since Monday, and I get locks in everything almost instantaneously. I do remember how it behaved initially when I got the N7, and it was different when I was having the problem, I'd only see 8 or so sats, rather than the ~20 you should see. Now I see all 20 at all times, and it locks quickly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
It is possible Google Play contributes to the problem but it is likely the core problem is in the OS.

I've had Google Play/Services disabled for days now and the won't lock problem happens less often but still happens. If Play was the sole cause, this wouldn't be the case.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
I have 3.2.75 with a downgraded maps but have not had the chance to confirm or deny GPS lock/not locked issues. I'll try later.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bso44:
You mean 3.2.25 right?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
Yes, 3.2.25 :good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] skivvies:
Has anyone rooted their device? If so, would you be able to drop to terminal, SU, and snag a logcat log of the GPS starting up, running, then dropping out? I think digging into this problem at the core of Android would provide some insight as to what's going on.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Diknak@gmail.com:
It's really sad that we haven't gotten an official response on this in 2 weeks. I have sent an email to 4 news sites requesting that they write articles about it to hopefully light the fire under Google's ass. There are only 100 people on the product forum thread so we may not be making enough waves.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] joshmcd89:
My test is a fail. It did stop working. The real test was posting about it working and seeing if it failed anyways. More waiting!

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I have always seen 20+ satellites, i have play services 3.2.25,and it still fails on me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
Subscribing for a permanent solution.

This is a total crock for me, since I bought the N7 for a car dash installation--GPS functionality in a bunch of different apps. I should not have to restart the tab every time I want gps data....

Still having issues as of today but I'm not sure what play services I have.