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[Nexus 7 General] szaszi1:
hi :)

after installing SuperManager (I use version 3.2.1), yes: go to settings and enable root (menu, settings - general settings/root), go to apk manager, find hangouts, kick on it and then uninstall... then ok, to confirm deleting a system application.

that was it for me... without any complications.

sorry that it didn't work out for you, i don't know what could have went wrong...

the only difference is that i used the samsung galaxy nexus... still this shouldn't influence the procedure.
[Nexus 7 General] randomthoughts:
Thanks - I tried it again with your description and it worked! I think maybe I didn't notice that the first time I ran the uninstall, it just takes off all the updates. Then I had to uninstall AGAIN to actually remove it.

It wrecked my Gmail install, but re-installing it from the PlayStore fixed it.

A friend used Titanium Backup and said that he didn't have to do that - don't know if TB had anything to do with it.
[Nexus 7 General] wiredout46:
they really need to revamp hangouts. at the very least make it more clear who's online and who isn't.

i hate messaging somebody and waiting for their reply just to find out they aren't even online to receive it.
[Nexus 7 General] bleets:
Right...

Issue with installing gapps!!

I was trying to show somebody something with multi users, added a new user, clicked setup...and it didnt set up, just went straight to desktop.

Can't get quick settings pull down to appear (normal notification bar pulls down, quick settings does not like it.)

I tried this step by step (booting to TWRP without installing and adding a new user each step)

So...

Install latest SuperSU for root - no problems

Install titanium and uninstall hangouts - no problems

Flash gapps for talk...and that's where the 2nd user issue appears.

Also if you do a factory reset it does not do a full reset, no setup GUI etc.

Uninstalling talk through titanium doesnt resolve the issue either.
[Nexus 7 General] saulotas:
I did this in my GT-9001
[Nexus 7 General] dk147in:
thanx

it worked on my sgs i9000 too.

rocked man
[Nexus 7 General] Phateless:
This thread solved it. - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2286600
[Nexus 7 General] xnifex:
So now I'm running in to the issue. Since I flashed back to Google Talk, now the OTA doesn't install.

had to reflash my tablet before I could do the restore. Found the part of my original file that removed system files & removed it, hopefully I (or anyone else) won't have issues.
[Nexus 7 General] ashish0304:
To get back talk working on nexus cm 10.2:

Before flashing cm 10.2, my nexus was on aokp 4.2.2. I took backup of talk using Titanium Backup. After flashing CM 10.2 I just restored it using tatanium backup. It is working perfectly.
[Nexus 7 General] lulli1:
Tried the same, coming from cm10. But TB was restoring a long time the gtalk app without success on cm10.2.

My cm10.2 rom is a odexed one. cm10 was deodexed. I think this could be the problem.

Any suggestions?
[Nexus 7 General] ashish0304:
It is due to root problem!
[Nexus 7 General] lulli1:
Never... Root is fine here! I think you can´t restore a deodexed system apk to a odext rom, can you?
[Nexus 7 General] ashish0304:
I am not sure about odexd/odexed.

But I am sure that if it is official CM 10.2 nightly then you have to re-root it properly, using SuperSU from playstore.
[Nexus 7 General] lulli1:
TB did it, now! Thanks a lot.

My mistake was, to try to restore the app data as well. This won´t work in different roms. Restoring only the app itself worked....STRIKE!
[Nexus 7 General] fattest:
not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but if you are doing a fresh install you can delete Hangouts.apk from the gapps zip file (system/app/Hangouts.apk) and drop the Talk apk in the zip file then it will be installed as a system app. Now if you accidentally update to hangouts from playstore you can uninstall the update and it will restore the talk app.
[Nexus 7 General] Caraculisimo:
Installing GTalk on CM 10.1-20131009 (4.2.2)

Hi.

I have installed an unofficial CM 10.1-20131009 on my Galaxy S3 mini where I as suggested installed the "gapps-jb-20130812". That version of gapps doesn't have GTalk and installing Hangouts doesn't give the possibility of reverting to Talk.

After trying all suggestions in this and other threads without any luck (also tried installing the apk) I decided to try an older version of gapps. I found that the gapps-jb-20121212 includes Talk and installing that package solved it for me. Talk is now working :laugh:

Hope that this can be useful for others.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
So what are people upset about these days? It was seeing if people are online or offline, that's fixed..
[Nexus 7 General] Mocsokba:
Thx for the help. It's work by me.

1. download zip file

2. Flash it in CWM

3. Reboot

4. and i use it :D

:good:

THX one more
[Nexus 7 General] jackuphill:
online status incorrect after flashing Gtalk on jb4.3

Thanks. Your method worked (SGnex stock 4.3) only that Titanium backup failed to remove but 'Root App Uninstaller' could.

However my online status is reported as offline on my friends mobile, even though I change my status to online:( probably the status is not being relayed properly. Any help to have it corrected appreciated
[Nexus 7 General] lambofgod13:
[/COLOR]Hangouts suck i liked gtalk better.
[Nexus 7 General] Wooba99:
Not really. After 4.3 I reverted my nexus 10 back to 4.2.2 just to get talk back. I've now installed kit kat and am back to hangouts. The "online" feature of hangouts only shows if the person has talk/hangouts active. It doesn't show if THEY are active. This may not seem like a big deal but when you have people on different work schedules or time zones, it's really important to know if the person is actually on their device - as talk did.

Hangouts is absolute junk and a complete mess.
[Nexus 7 General] fizmixa:
can someone tell/show me how to get past the "/system/app/hangouts.apk" has unexpected contents error when trying to update to kit kat? thanks.
[Nexus 7 General] burleanu:
Anybody has seen that recently on nexus 7 4.3 Gtalk doesn't connect anymore?

I have 2 nexus and both of them have same problem.

One is Stock 4.3 (except gtalk) and the other CM 10.2.

Both of them are blocked to connect to gtalk.

On HTC Sensation with 4.1.2 I have no problem.

Anyone have seen this?
[Nexus 7 General] fizmixa:
*bump* anyone??
[Nexus 7 General] Falcon4ever:
Yea, same here, working with people from different timezones and it is nice to see if they're really online. Also, having the invisible mode available is nice (during night time or while driving so messages do get delivered and not just into the gmail inbox)

Did anyone managed to get it to work with 4.4 kitkat?
[Nexus 7 General] kobetete:
reverse google talk

Did anyone managed to get it to work with 4.4 kitkat?
[Nexus 7 General] yugimonster:
Couldn't get it to work on KitKat. Was working fine on Jelly Bean.
[Nexus 7 General] ms.journie:
I'm curious how did you get your gtalk to work? I deleted my hangout installed gtalk and it just keeps trying to sign in. Im running 4.3
[Nexus 7 General] tnt533:
Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account

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Same issue here. Uninstalled Hangouts with TB and then installed gtalk by sideloading an apk. It opens but just spins forever stuck trying to login to my account.

Edit: after a reboot the app now works fine.
[Nexus 7 General] yugimonster:
Are you running on 4.3 or 4.4?
[Nexus 7 General] ms.journie:
I'm running 4.3

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What is slideloading an apk? Does that mean you moved it to your system apps? If so, I've already done that and restarted my phone and still no luck. :crying:
[Nexus 7 General] xakou:
i have the same problem.....

Google Talk trying to login...... but nothing....

My phone is Galaxy S2 with 4.3.1
[Nexus 7 General] TheArtiszan:
I am having the same problem

I used root explorer to remove hangouts

copy in talk and set permissions

reboot to recovery

wipe dalvik and cache

reboot

still just gets stuck spinning.
[Nexus 7 General] guifort:
Hello,

Same issue for me with 4.3 or 4.4 but after an upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 (OTA) and reflash Talk.apk from recovery it's work. (With 4.3 not 4.4) Strange ?

I think if I wipe device I can't login to talk.

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Hello,

Same issue for me with 4.3 or 4.4 but after an upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3 (OTA) and reflash Talk.apk from recovery it's work. (With 4.3 not 4.4) Strange ?

I think if I wipe device I can't login to talk.
[Nexus 7 General] brpqzme:
Is talk still working in 4.3 for anyone? Mine's stopped signing in - maybe Google's disabled it?
[Nexus 7 General] VengefulAncient:
Aha, so I am not alone! Yes, Talk stopped signing in for me in 4.3 (Cyanogenmod 10.2) a couple of days ago and now won't sign in in 4.4 (CM 11) either. However, it DOES work on my tablet (4.2/CM 10.1.2).
[Nexus 7 General] xnifex:
add me to the list of people it stopped working for. running 4.4.2 on nexus 4/7 & it just spins
[Nexus 7 General] KiretoX:
Same problem with SGS3 with 4.3. Deleted hangouts, had hard time to install talk back... but now i have it (4.2.2 version) it's not going to sign in at all. Going the xabber way, I guess.
[Nexus 7 General] diamondcanopy:
Looks like they are somehow blocking Talk sign in on purpose. What a bad move, totally speechless.

In the mean time, does anyone have any jabber client recommendations?

I can't seem to find one that actually syncs conversations between desktop and phone. The only other features that mattered to me are being able to see status of other people, and being able to set myself to invisible. IM+ seems to be pretty close, but as far as I can tell you cannot sync conversations between devices :(
[Nexus 7 General] diamondcanopy:
Ok--I'm just going to bump this because the Xabber solution is not really a solution at all. Talk had the critical function that you could move between devices and the conversations would be synced between them. As far as I can tell no Jabber client can do this (please, please let me know if I'm overlooking an app here). Right now I am using both Hangouts and Xabber so that I can make sure to have the full conversation (using Hangouts) as well as determine if someone is idle/away (using Xabber). I do miss being able to go invisible... Sometimes you want to be able to chat with one person (or two, even) without being interrupted by others, ya know?

I would be totally willing to tolerate the abysmal UI of hangouts if I could just have this basically functionality back. Anyone have any new ideas on this?
[Nexus 7 General] VengefulAncient:
This is where it gets interesting. I have CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) running on my Samsung Galaxy Tab and luckily, Talk still works there. Hangouts is still unusable: it's the ONLY app on my SGS that's laggy (apart from Skype) and doesn't show me as online (green indicator). It would be nice to find out which part of 4.3/4.4 blocks Talk from signing in and remove that code. Google can cry us a river about "innovation", I just want Talk back! Does anyone know a way to investigate an Android app's running process more closely similar to how one would do it on Ubuntu/Debian (look at log files, strace, etc.) so we can locate the roadblock?
[Nexus 7 General] diamondcanopy:
Yeah, it seems like there must be some way to do this. Unfortunately I wouldn't even know where to start.
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Yes, same here, running 4.3, removed hangouts, but Talk keeps trying to sign in without success...
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Ok so I got GTalk to sign in on my Android 4.3.

Here are all the steps I did, and I have no idea which ones are really necessary:

1) Removed Hangouts.apk from system/app and data/app, and removed gms core from system/app

2) Flashed gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip entirely (without removing anything)

3) Uninstalled all updates of Google Play Store and Google Play Services, and disabled auto update on Google Play Store

4) Tried to sign in -> no success

5) Updated gtalks to hangouts using play store

6) Signed into Hangouts, then signed out

7) Uninstalled updates to hangouts, so it reverted back to GTalk

8) Tried to sign in on GTalk and it worked!

Hope it helps someone else!
[Nexus 7 General] conypaul:
Talk will not Sig in

NOT WORKING FOR ME :-/ on Note 3

Any other Solution ?

Best regards
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
how do you flash the gapps?
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Well, you have to have a custom recover (like phillz), then you place the gapps zip file on the root of your sdcard, boot into recovery, and access the option "flash zip"...
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
I answered your question on the other thread! :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48959758#post48959758
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
thanks, I got it to flash the gapps but can't get talk to work, google play keeps updating to the latest version as well. :(
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
Any other work arounds to get talk to work? This method didn't seem to work for me. :confused:
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Well, I also cleared data / cache for google play store, google framework, gtalk, hangouts and so on...

I also cleared the cache (and dalvik cache) via the recovery...

Since I've done a lot of other crazy stuff to try and get Google Talk to work, I'm not really sure what did work, those steps I posted are the ones that make sense... Sorry I'm not of great help =\
[Nexus 7 General] thankyouxda:
So when I flashed Infamous ROM (has AROMA installer) on my S4 did not choose "Hangouts" as part of the flashing. Once flashed stopped auto update in the play store. Still no hangouts installed at this point. Then mounted sytem as rw with ADB and pushed Talk.apk to system/apps.

Talk showed up in the drawer.

Successfully logged in to Talk. Testing sending message to another Gtalk IID
[Nexus 7 General] rockluvva:
I have an S4 that I have rooted myself & did have Talk working, but now it just spins & doesn't sign in. I don't know why I couldn't leave well alone, as I followed "Junior Member's" post & it originally worked, but I kept getting an error flashing up that Google Play Services had encountered an error

So I have just done a factory reset, but other than spending an hour getting everything back on again, Talk still just won't sign in. And Play Services keeps reinstalling itself :eek:

Guess I need to do the flash rom thingy? Or any other help would be appreciated. Thks
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Yeah, I got those Google Play errors too, and they eventually stopped... :eek:
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
Invisibility. Audio-only chats (without video). Lighter footprint.

Hangouts being "newer" isn't enough. It doesn't add ANYTHING at all, but takes away some features instead.
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Being able to see if the person is busy / idle instead of just "not offline". Also being able to see the status of the person you're chatting with, without having to go back to the friends list...
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
Completely agree. In old talk you can see if the person is online, away, busy or offline, both on the friends list, during chat or directly in your contacts! There is a color coded big dot near each person name, green - online, orange with clock hands - away, red "-" - busy, gray x - offline. What could be easier and/or more clear than this?
[Nexus 7 General] rockluvva:
Ok, but it kept reinstalling Google Play Services & my talk still won't sign in. So annoying. I HATE hangouts, it's so unfriendly & you should be able to decide yourself whether you want an update or not. That's why I rooted my phone in the first place! *sigh*
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
I got talk to install and sign in but now video doesn't seem to work, keeps saying unfortunately, talk has stopped.

is your video working?

nevermind.. i got it to work
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Hmm I haven't tried video yet... How did you get it to work?
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
Could you please mention how?
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
replaced the current "libvideochat_stabilize.so" and "libvideochat_jni.so" files in the "system/lib" folder with updated versions.

thanks to brpqzme from the post on this page: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2286600&page=5

If you copy the files libvideochat_stabilize.so and libvideochat_jni.so to system/lib then it will work.

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Use the below step to remove hangouts, then should just be able to install GTalk_4.1.2-509230.apk and replace the current "libvideochat_stabilize.so" and "libvideochat_jni.so" files in the "system/lib" folder with updated versions as per my post above, its working on my T-Mobile S3 LTE (SGH T999L) running rooted 4.3

Install GTalk_4.1.2-509230.apk which Kal-El7 has uploaded on the following post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2286600&page=4

Direct link to GTalk_4.1.2-509230.apk
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Just a quick note, my Talk (which connects and works fine, still haven't tested video though) is version 4.2.2-573038, so this version should be fine as well if someone wants a more updated gTalk ;)
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
So, apparently, in order to make it login, one needs to have talk installed as a system app (that will fail to sign in), update to hangouts, let hangouts sign in, sign out of hangouts, revert the update (so now we are with the talk as system app again, one that didn't previously sign in) and trying signing in again (and now it should magically work?!).

Can someone explain why does it work exactly, if at all?
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Yes, that's what worked for me, but I have no idea why / how it worked... =\
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
I've just pushed the GTalk_4.1.2-509230.apk over adb to system/app (it refused to sign in, as usual), updated to hangouts, signed into hangous, signed out of it, uninstalled, tried talk again and... it did NOT sign in :crying:

EDIT: Tried with different versions of talk.apk, none worked :(
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Have you tried downgrading Google Play Services / Google Play Store / Google Play Framework like I explained in my previous post?
[Nexus 7 General] InfX:
No, i didn't, i kinda afraid to screw other google apps by that.
[Nexus 7 General] guaycuru:
Well, my Google apps are working just fine...
[Nexus 7 General] r3drogo:
but affects the localization services from Google... foursquare doesn't work either, and throws a message that you need to update Google Play Services in order to use it.
[Nexus 7 General] dimm0k:
after downgrading Google services and logging into Google Talk, is it safe to upgrade the services afterward since Google Talk is now signed in? Haven't had time to attempt this to get Google Talk going, but was wondering if anyone else has done this in the mean time.
[Nexus 7 General] dimm0k:
Whoa, looks like for this to work one must have Google Play Services downgraded and Google Play Store auto updates disabled. The steps I did to get it working on my 4.3 device was as follows.

1. backup, freeze, then uninstall Hangouts via TitaniumBackup. did not touch GMSCore at all...

2. pushed Talk.apk from gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip to /system/apps, along with libgtalk_ini.so and libgtalk_stabilize.so to /system/lib

3. changed permissions of all 3 files to 644, rw-r--r--

4. tried to sign in -> fail

5. updated to Hangouts, signed in, signed out

6. uninstall Hangouts, reverting me back to Google Talk

7. tried to sign in -> fail

8. disabled auto update on Google Play Store

9. uninstalled all updates of Google Play Services so it went back to stock version

10. tried to sign in -> success!

not sure what the side effects of an older version of GPS would be, but so far all I get is a error notification from Maps when I try to use it... Maps still works fine so I'll see if there's any other trade offs. Looks like Google Talk is going to bite the big one later on regardless.
[Nexus 7 General] pamma83:
anyway to freeze Google Play Services from auto updating even when auto update from google play store is off?
[Nexus 7 General] dimm0k:
as far as I know, no... I recently reset my phone and as soon as it was set up it started downloading updates despite me going into the Google Play Store and turning it off as fast as I could. Only way to keep it from auto updating is to uninstall the updates AFTER it's updated. At that point it won't bug you to update except for when apps attempt to use it. So far Google+ and Maps trigger it.
[Nexus 7 General] relativityboy:
So,

It sounds like GTalk is toast. That kind of thing is really a huge pain in the ass to do, and then live with.

So bummed. :(
[Nexus 7 General] sdmarathe:
agreed 100%. Hangouts is a total POS app. Everything google has done in last 2 years is "downgrade" perfectly fine apps like Maps and Talk and shove it down the drain.
[Motorola Droid 4] Grey_Ghost:
Hi!

I fairly recently bought a secondhand Droid 4 from overseas. It worked fine on Australia's Optus network up until a few days ago, when it threw a No SIM error. The SIM also didn't work in my little spare phone, so I went to the store to swap it. The Droid 4 still showed No SIM with that one too, the store technician couldn't get it to read after I took it out.

I tried it with another spare Optus SIM, it also damaged that one too.

Phone appears to work fine on wifi, it worked before it damaged the first SIM. Any suggestions on a hopefully cheap repair for it?

Thanks in advance.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Leynard:
This is my first post and I must say that I'm totally impressed with the works of the guys here at this forum.

A couple of questions come to mind though before making that plunge to join in on the Windows Mobile 2005 bandwagon...

1. What is the best software (if any) to use to make a full device backup (including games, contacts, etc)

2. Is there a program that does an image of any XDA device (kinda like Norton Ghost) so that reverts can be done easily?

3. If there is no way to backup the device 100%, is there a way to save game progress (like bejeweled) so that when I upgrade to WM2005 and do a fresh install of games my game progress will be just when I left it?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Ciao :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Leynard:
I did some digging and eventually came to Sprite software's backup program.

After reading the reviews, it seems that this is the best program to have. Any of you guys tried this one yet? Any feedbacks?

Here's the company's URL: http://www.spritesoftware.com/en/index.htm

:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
the best way to backup is to use activesync and then reinstall everything you need...

Otherwise you'll run into problems..

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Leynard:
Thanks.

Quick question though, What about my game files (im playing bejeweled and am at level 138 - endless mode) will these also be backed up via Activesync?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k2wl:
i have compiled the aokp jb 4.2.2 for i9082 galaxy grand duos

but outgoing calls does not work!! outgoing call get stuck on dialer screen which does nothing and when i try to hang up ..i cant HANG UP!! i have to reboot!!

i am attaching logcat and screenshots

plz help me!!!
[Nexus S General] loopfree:
i've cyanogenmod 10.0 in my nexus, now i would update to 10.2, what is better? update to 10.1 then 10.2 or directly 10.2 ??

or you advise me to clean out and re-flash cyanogenmod 10.2 ??

thanks
[Nexus S General] rho57:
Do you mean 10.1.0 to 10.1.2?

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S General] nexususer:
Update directly to 10.1.2 ....

About the clean flash it is recommended u can also flash without wiping but it may not be as fast as a clean flash

Good luck !

use seat belts... u don't know how much it pains when ur head bashes into steering wheel while an accident :p
[Nexus S General] leap_ahead:
no cm 10.2 yet
[Nexus S General] rho57:
Whatever it it you are updating to, you must format /system /data /cache and /boot before flashing a new rom

Sent from my Nexus S