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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] marka2k:
Have you used the utility to unhide/unlock the extended ROM? You can find it in the FTP. Also I don't think WM2005 will ever work with the BlueAngel there has been many threads regarding this subject.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] arkhan11:
Hi guys, here it is download link of Nexus 7 WI-FI (grouper) bootloader v4.23 (stock one shipped with just released android 4.3 JWR66V)

It's not flashable via custom recovery, though.

Flashable version soon (if anyone is faster than me, PM me and I'll post it here :good:)

for short, fastboot command for flashing:

in fastboot mode, from computer terminal or prompt:

fastboot flash bootloader NAME_OF_THE_FILE.img

complete flashing guide (from adb setup to the end here - thanks to azoller1)

(Download)

MD5 DF53028033C9ECCF4FE5BA7BC198CE24

SHA-1 7B28B45A035EFB9AAD9E61AD09B1906EB5508721

(I don't take any responsibility about procedure, etc. You know the story, bootloader is from Google's factory image)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] ShockBuddy:
Thanks, is working well. For People who asks: You can still use 4.2.2- Roms with this Bootloader!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] T-Keith:
Is there a need this, or some advantage to it?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] hanschke:
Zip File please
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jonny68:
+1

Would be cool
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Xak:
Thanks ROFL still bootloader version 4.18. :P
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mso2000:
+1
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Niksko:
I tried to flash back to stock 4.3 earlier and it wouldn't let me because my bootloader was still on 4.18

Also, note the fact that the Google factory images website has the JWR66Y stock image instead of the JWR66V that is found here. For me when I was trying to flash the new bootloader earlier today, the version from the JWR66Y version gave me a 'Signature mismatch' error while the version found here did not.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] StrangerWeather:
To you lucky people who already have the new Nexus 7, does it really feel loads better than the first generation N7, and how? Here in Europe we won't be getting this for a while yet it seems, so I can't find out for myself.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] smirkis:
Depends on you really.

with the build quality, and more efficient CPU, more RAM, thinner, lighter, better feel in my hand. it was a no brainer for me
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jmill75:
Agreed, no brainer here either. Better everything, including build. And for the price, for me it's more of a why not.

Although the Note 8 is a pretty damn good tablet all around.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trimalchioinwestegg:
Having a better screen and speakers that are actually useable makes all the difference for me. The build quality seems better to me. I sold my first gen Nexus 7 on ebay months ago because I couldn't watch things on it or listen to music without headphones. Upgraded speed is also a big plus.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] stone_phalanges:
I would say yes.

The 4.2 update for the nexus 7 was really bad but the 4.3 update fixed alot of that. That said the new nexus 7 has a great screen and performs much better than the previous model even with the 4.3 update.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] plbelanger:
IMO, yes. Definitely worth the upgrade for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] n0kia916:
The speakers is what I love about the new 7!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] SCDroid:
I'm about to head to staples now and pick mine up. Guess I'm going to give my first Gen n7 to my mom.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 with Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] anon4129325:
I dropped my old N7 a couple months ago so I've been dying for another e-reader. bought a nook HD+ and quickly returned it since the build on it is crap.

So glad I ended up returning it in the return window because this tablet blows it out of the water and it isn't even a competition. It's an upgrade in every conceivable way to the older N7: physical specs including feel and build quality, software, and hardware.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] The Peanut Master:
This is one of those updates where literally everything is upgraded almost across the board, and considering my old N7 was having serious lag issues, it was a no-brainer upgrade for me. There isn't anything that is immediately at another level than the old N7, but when so much is upgraded and refined (screen, speakers, no lag, RAM, processor, build quality) I personally couldn't resist.

I also had the 8 GB N7, and even though I don't use much internal storage at all that was still too little, so moving up to 16 GB should help a lot.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] feron:
I used my original all day every day for business and then reading at home.

This model is certainly snappier and the added resolution really helps for docs etc during a meeting.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] shahkam:
How is that even possible ? I thought they went into sales august 1st at staples ??
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] SCDroid:
My cuz is the manager. They're actually marked to sell on the 31st

Sent from my Galaxy S4 with Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] scream4cheese:
Got my 16gig today. It's freaking awesome. I don't love my old Nexus 7 anymore.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] shahkam:
Ohh i see..
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Crooke356:
They are available in lots of stores. If they're still in stock. GameStop, Staples and Walmart... That I know of. Got mine at Best buy. For some reason, nobody is waiting for the release date that was announced.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] whoamanwtf:
Yes, there is no real comparison between the two. It is a full on sequel in every way.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mrazndead:
It is that much better. Screen is amazing, and sound is amazing, so loud, camera still sucks' back camera sucks,. If you have the original nxus 7 its a decent upgrade.,, I returned mine. Will wait for nexus 7 3.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DualSportDad:
Its pretty good. Screen is nice and the speakers are much louder. Its a good bit faster as well.

I'm still on the fence about whether it is worth it tho.

Both my 7's are on 4.3 if that matters.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mrazndead:
I didn't think it wads worth it so I returned mine, plus my old one is plenty fast and has 32 gig, got my money back
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jayochs:
I'm enjoying it. the screen rocks.. just sucks their quality control is still as bad as the original, with all the people having dead pixels or dust under the screen, including me... lol. but whatever. I love the speakers too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rp3:
The Screen is better. It's nearly twice as bright, moving from a compromise screen (in quality) to best in class pre-Retina Ipad mini.

The tablet is smaller/less wide so a person without big hands can more easily hold it with one hand. The memory is faster so no crashes because of bad memory. This is a Nexus 10 like flagship device whereas the ON was a testcase for what compromises would allow a tablet to break 200.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mutelight:
I have only used other's first gen Nexus 7 but the screen and form fact is unquestionably much improved.

Now I am going to leave my iPad at home for use at night and on the weekends and now the Nexus 7 will be in my bag all the time.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] n0kia916:
CPU Binning

Can someone do a new post regarding CPU Binning ?

More information regarding our chip and CPU binning..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2228246

I'm just too lazy to create a new post even though I'm posting now :silly:

Mine shows 2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] StrangerWeather:
Wow, that's an impressive overwhelming majority in favour of the new Nexus compared with the old one!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] paranoid android85:
I really like the way other stores are just selling them early. I'm sure Google gave them the green light. It let's the geeks who know, a chance to grab one before the rest of the masses know. I had no trouble getting a chromecast and nexus 7. Last year was a different story, but i guess also they didn't really make enough
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] e-motion:
I'm loving mine. I sold the previous n7 a few months ago in preparation for this one and it is improved in every possible way. Best under 10 inch tablet on the market in my opinion.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Solutions Etcetera:
It is a good incremental upgrade. But remarks like "no comparison" are clearly from folks that are just jonezin' on their new toy. If your big into games, don't wear glasses, and listen to the thing's internal speakers, you will notice a pretty reasonable improvement by upgrading. If not, not so much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Torisen:
It's a pretty good upgrade. I really like the new screen. I will say while the new one has a more premium look I like how the original feels in hand better. It's easier for the new one to poke into your hand and it's a little slippery in hand.

Gave my first generation to my fiance, her first tablet and she loves it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trssho91:
I sold my first gen 32gb and got a 2nd gen, 100% happy with my decision and would do it all over again. I love the boost in specs (you can really feel it), but what I am really enjoying is the premium feel it has in the hand. Its most likely in my head, but I feel it has a much better build quality.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] roltzje:
As an owner of both versions, heres my opinion:

The 2nd gen Nexus 7 is the best tablet I've ever had the opportunity to use. It's an enormous upgrade over the original for a few reasons..

1. The screen is not just sharper, but also much more vivid and contrasted.

2. It just feels solid in the hand.. I tried flexing it and creaking it, and nothing. Its thin but doesnt give if you try to torque it. The plastic backing feels like its very thick or just well done, since I dont get the impression that its a thin plastic cover as on the Nexus 10.

3. Its lighter, but not strangely light.

4. Its blistering fast.. the processor is more than capable of handling any task, where the old nexus 7 would chug on some tasks.

5. The speakers are the best I've heard on any mobile device, ever. When I say any mobile device, I mean ANY standalone mobile device.. phones, tablets, and laptops included. They are just good. They lack bass, but other than that they are very clear.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Geodude074:
That's your subjective opinion, really.

I personally think the front-facing speakers on the N10 are better, and the Kindle Fire HD's speakers are better. Asus also makes some great sounding speakers in their Vivobook laptops.

The N7v2's speakers are great - much improved over the original's - but they're not the best.

Also, when held in landscape mode, I immediately noticed that the right speaker is slightly more muted than the left speaker
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jayrod1980:
I went through 7 nexus 7 first gens and never got one without lift or touchscreen issues or crazy light bleed and dead pixels. My buddy won the nexus lottery and got a perfect one. I used his for awhile... Its not even a worthy comparison. The lower DPI made PDF reading a chore and the colors looked very washed out. This screen is awesome, the battery life is no comparison either. I had a hard time getting to 6 hours on screen. The new one is blazing fast and has great battery life. I was worried about obsolescence because it was advertised as having an s4 pro but the krait 300 a15 cores, adreno 320, 2gb lprddr3 etc make it a powerhouse right now. The old one had poor standby battery life as well while this one does not. I would have preferred the dimpled back like the original but that's my only complaint. Only took me one exchange this time too to get a good one so that's an upgrade in and of itself.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TheMrcool212:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WET9AUhB0I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my Galaxy S3 i9300
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] turdbogls:
I am going to be as harsh as possible to the new N7 when comparing to the original one.

screens...OK, this one its hard to be harsh. it is 100% better in every aspect. sharpness (duh) colors pop, blacks are darker, whites are whiter, viewing angles are better.

speakers: i was one of the few that didn't really have much complaint about the OG's speaker. it was loud enough where I didn't have to cup my hand around it to watch the occasional youtube video (use headphones for music and movies) the new N7 is pretty good though. it is a bit louder, the stereo sound is nice, and it sounds a bit crisper. overall, not a huge upgrade, but an upgrade.

performance: mundane tasks like opening simple apps (play store, gmail, calendar, hangouts ect) wasn't much of a difference (both tablets on 4.3) the new one was obviously faster, but not by more than a small fraction of a second. gaming is different though, the new N7 clearly had a higher framerate on games i tested on both devices (beach buggy blitz, dead trigger,temple run)

camera, well, its a 5mp tablet camera...thats about all I can say about it. not great, but acceptable for what i would use it for.

build: i actually like the feel of the OG better. but i have large hands so the new one almost (ALMOST) feels cramped in my hand. the small bezels on the side are something i wasn't a fan of. I can deal with it, i haven't touched the screen accidentally yet so the form factor is acceptable. but overall look and feel is much improved. the old one felt cheap, and looked cheap. the soft-touch coupled with the glossy black rim around the screen and the way it all just flows together makes this feel like a much more expensive tablet than it is. also, the slight dip in weight, and thickness helps quite a bit with overall feel.

overall, I was happy with my N7, and with 4.3 on it, it seemed snappy as ever. but the new one is just in another category. i try to knock it, but i just can't. google/asus outdid themselves with this one. its well worth the money to upgrade, and its well worth the purchase as a first time. nothing can touch this tablet at this price point.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OneBlueSky:
It seems to depend who you ask. People who haven't touched it and have only watched videos or read about it seem to have a different answer than those who have actually used it and owned the first gen. People who for whatever reason can't get one just yet (or don't want to yet) seem to have a different answer than people who do as well.

Having used both side by side... It's an immense improvement over the old one. It's not that anything is massively different, but there are several small to mild differences across the board that add up to be a major improvement overall. The speed for example, depending what you use it for, you may notice little or no difference, for other things you will really see and feel it. Battery life is also quite a bit better. While part of that may be due to the fact one is new versus one being from last year, going by the notes I made when we got the first Nexus 7 it's notably longer lasting new for new.

The biggest win for it to me is, the display. It is so much better it's almost like comparing apples to oranges. You don't notice anything "bad" really (we didn't at least) about the original Nexus 7, but once you use the new one or see them side by side, it is multiple orders of magnitude better. Everything is so much more crisp, the colors are so much better, and of course the resolution is MUCH better. That alone is worth it to me, even if nothing else changed at all.

Then there are other things, like the build, rear facing camera, notification light, etc. that some may want and hate that the original lacked, and some probably couldn't care less about.

Just depends who you ask and what you want, but for the price especially, as other's have said, it's more of a question of "why am I not already buying it" versus "should I bother with it".
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] huckjam:
Yeah guy thanks for the honest opinions I was contemplating upgrading my nexus 7 and after reading this I can safely say that im doing it tonight. Thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Fulbring:
The new Nexus 7 is pretty good. I bought it cause my dad bought a Nexus 7 for himself for using skype and stuff cause he is living international and I had a week to try out the old Nexus 7.

Compared to the old Nexus 7 the new Nexus 7 had pretty decent but not really a lot of major upgrades IMO. My biggest reason for getting this was because I wanted a 1080p screen device for a nice price and I found the Nexus 7. I like how its fast as well and its gonna last me a year at least for my University studying purposes. I found Android 4.3 to be slightly faster than Android 4.2.2. I have to say tho. The display for the Nexus 7 Razor is pretty demanding, obviously on HD stuff looks good on it. But since seeing how there are a lot of 1080p devices coming to the market and are already out, the application optimization is coming as well.

What I would say is that if you are looking to upgrade... don't really do it unless you want a nice gorgeous screen and faster processor. But if you are a first time buyer then this tablet will be something to beat in 2013!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gnewylliw:
eh, I've got the old and new side by side, and the only difference, in terms of screen, is increased sharpness. the colours are nearly identical, and i actually favour the old n7 in terms of colour...

the brightnesses arent equal sorry but you get the idea...

here's a colour wheel:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mi7chy:
N7 2013 has the best balance of resolution, performance and usability as compared to Nexus 10, Galaxy Note 10.1 and OG N7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kliu888:
Have been using the new N7 side by side with the old one for the last 5 days. The screen of the new N7 is excellent. The text is much sharper. The speakers are twice as loud as the old one. It's easier to hold on to & it's faster. There are several apps won't run on the new N7 even though they are both running 4.3 - but they should get resolved in the coming months. Unfortunately, I have decided to return mine because the screen is just not as responsive as the old one. Many times it doesn't register the touches & that's very frustrating. Maybe I am spoiled by the old N7, I don't know. It really bums me out as I have come to love the new N7 but I just can't get pass this one issue!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tom289:
You should get it exchanged. I have noticed no touch responsiveness issues with the new N7 versus the old.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Solutions Etcetera:
I'm gonna keep the new one. I like the size, weight, and look better, and the speakers are actually usable. I can actually watch my TiVo out on the deck without headphones.

The rest of it is kinda ho hum. I see a difference in the display, but it isn't a major factor for me as I wear glasses to read.

I will miss the dock with the original as I used it as an alarm/clock/radio on my nightstand. Guessing I'll have to rig up some kind of replacement for that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jayrod1980:
Hey buddy... Its not cheap but the nexus orb does an excellent job as a night stand dock. It charges fast and it stays on pretty solidly. Its a 2+ amp charger. As far as I know, the others I've seen can't charge well while the device is in use. Plus the device has stereo speakers already so you are pretty much covered. Plus, as long as you keep the pad clean its less likely to cause wear on the exterior.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Solutions Etcetera:
I already have the orb for my Nexus 4, but it doesn't support the tablet at anywhere near a high enough angle for the purpose at hand.

BTW, the orb has no speakers, but that's not an issue as I use Bluetooth or Chromecast to send a/v to the system in the bedroom.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Don't mean to sound sarcastic but why did you return it if it is so great? I don't understand.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kayone73:
Yes its a definite improvement in many areas compared to the first gen N7. Does a current N7 owner need to upgrade to the new one? Not necessarily, purely up to the buyer
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phab3k:
daysedjching

all that I can say as someone coming from a first gen ipad is that this thing is a beast. been loving every moment I've gotten to use it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gahsan:
Never really liked the first generation. I thought the screen wasn't all that better than other cheapo tablets out there and it was sluggish as heck. The new Nexus 7 doesn't pack a lot more muscle but it's still fast enough to not make things feel sluggish or lagging. Also, the new screen is just a killer. :D

Oh. I should also mention feeling less plasticky.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
Man.. I love the nexus 7 but I just heard about the new kindle and now I'm a bit less happy about my nex coming Friday.

Have you guys seen the specs on that new kindle? Don't mean to go off topic..

I am looking forward to it but I guess in reality it isn't that big of a deal. I am looking forward to the new mainly and the speakers. The cameras mean squat to me. Im happy about the extra memory but I really can't think of a single game that ever lagged for me on the last nex 7.

Looking forward to it though.. I think that kindle most likely is too intrusive for me anyhow. I really liked the specs and lower price though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] alicarbovader:
Haven't tried the older one, but this one definitely is fast. no lags whatsoever on Aepx full of heavy UCCW widgets on 3 screens. No launcher redaraws that I can notice. I admit though, I've had it for just 13 hrs...

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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Solutions Etcetera:
In playing with this thing some more I have noticed that the touch screen is much better. Selecting text and moving the cursor is much less jumpy.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kliu888:
Ok. I will give it a shot. I really like the new N7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kliu888:
So I went back to Staples & exchanged for a new one. When I boot it up it upgraded itself to 4.3 JWR66V. It worked great - just as responsive as my old N7. So I thought problem solved. I was happy - for a while anyway. I played it for a few hours, then decided to do the OTA upgrade to JSS15J. That made it go back to be not-so-responsive again! So apparently nothing wrong with the hardware. Somehow they thought the screen was too sensitive and decided to turn down a notch. I now need to press harder for my touches to register. So I am back on the fence again. I have 14 days to see if I can change my habit...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] AdamLechowicz:
The retina iPad mini will have the same PPI as the nexus 7, just a bigger screen, so...

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nastypup:
I wanted the Nexus 7 for movies and TV but the volume was way too low. The 4.3 upgrade helped. I gave my 1st gen to my husband for his birthday (it was only 2 months old and not used much) and I got myself a 2nd gen. Oheee!!! Super stereo sound and excellent resolution brought the movies alive. It has a nice camera, too. The screen has a very light touch. It weighs less, too, which is good for me. So far, everything works well. I probably won't root it because there is nothing I want to customize.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] keijikage:
I have both the 2012 and 2013. The 2013 is a lot nicer, but I don't know if it's $288 nicer (after tax for the 32gb).

The bulk of what I do is watch videos and browse the web for which there isn't really a huge difference. Stereo sound is a nice touch, but I use headphones a lot to avoid disturbing those around me. It doesn't hurt that the 4.3 update has really helped my 2012 N7.

I'm on the fence about returning the new one...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] igotdatglow:
I see people taking about how good the speakers are. Mine aren't loud at all. My crappy moto droid bionic is louder. Any chance I have a unit with bad speakers or some sort of audio issue?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jayrod1980:
This thing has great battery, great screen, good build quality, very fast processor, wireless charging etc... Its multitudes more portable and just as fine an experience as my nexus 10, plus faster (other than io) for less. It blows crappy old n7 away. More than worth the upgrade IMO. This doesn't feel like a cheap tablet. Best Google device out of the box I've purchased and I've owned all nexus devices other than the q and n1