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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
I found it and quoted you in my post above. It just amazes me that no one talks about this. Why would anyone want to make anything more difficult (Odin...etc..) than it needs to be?

For me, I'm just looking for a way back should I manage to screw up my root, or just want to give it to a member of my family. (I'm still eleigible for an upgrade) Also just in case I need warranty work. I would think Samsung or even VZ would/could frown apon warranty if its rooted.

It's almost so easy, A CAVEMAN COULD DO IT! :D

So what, you go back to ME7 unrooted. You can always unroot. Now if they update ME7, and there's no root yet for what ever is new, then I'll just be stuck until someone figures out a way.

Cheers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
I have to find the link I saved on my PC but I actually rooted and then went back to stock and I just used odin and the stock firmware. It was easy as 1 2 3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sound-mind:
It looks like you didn't copy all of the files and folders in the zip to the exfat sdcard. The directory gs4ex isn't present. Try copying *all* of the zip contents to the sd card.

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2357235
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Superstarstickel:
Everytime(twice) I've downloaded the file and begun to extract it I get an error saying the file is corrupt and cannot be extracted therefore not allowing me to flash via odin.

What is going on here?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poimandres:
You can actually use samsung kies as well. Does the verizon software leave the firmware file on the machine? Kies does not however you can copy it out of the temporary folder before it rem9ves it.

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It seems that odin 3.04 works with the s4, does anyone know where to obtain an official or original copy of odin?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] acidsurfr:
i am using a 64g card that was formated in the the phone and i am getting the same problem.

If i format a spare smaller card on my pc, move the files to it and try it from the other card and it works. Can i then put my 64g card back in with no issues or do the files have to remain on a card installed in the phone to keep root, especially during a reboot??

If i can remove the card once i have root and not have a problem i will try that when i get home.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sound-mind:
It is valid for me and I've used the unpacked version w/ Odin. Can't help you with file corruption on your end ;) Try a different app to unpack it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thornev:
Yes you can put your 64gb card back in your phone. The rooting files are no longer needed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
I'm unfamiliar with kies and have only used Odin on my s2 and s3 so that's why I used odin
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Superstarstickel:
Different app worked thank you

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2nd way worked like a charm thank you!

Why is it not possible to flash mdk over me7?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sound-mind:
Glad to hear it worked. I can't take credit for the discovery though my friend, manicmethod here, stumbled across it by accident and found it fixed the TIMA issue that was preventing kernel modules from loading.

There seem to be a few different thoughts on how it is implemented but simply put the ME7 update included a blacklist of certain firmware signatures (MDK) which prevents them from being used again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
How do I stop any update on my phone? How do I kep ANY app from auto updating? I've had several do this and I don't want anything being installed unless I'm aware of it.

I'm also looking for confirmation that THIS process works to go back to stock:

Plug your phone into a Mac or PC, install the VZW utility, select repair device. It will download and flash the official firmware and change your status to official and your splash screen back to the normal samsung logo, not the open lock with custom. It will be ME7 and bone stock. Have done it and rerooted myself. Hope it helps

The original poster said this works, but yet when the discussion goes to returning to stock, all I ever see is ODIN or some crytpic way that someone with NO android operating system knowlege cannot comprehend. ANYONE else do this? :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] usualsuspec:
Sd card formatting

I have a 32 gb sd card in my s4. I tried to run the exploits and received permission denied based on not having the sd card formatted. There is an option on the phone to "format sd card"

Will that work or do I need to use another method? Also, do I save all my info from the sd card first then transfer over after the reformat?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hexitnow:
If it was a 64gb it would format to exfat by default using the option on your phone. You need to take it out and format it on your pc, you cant plug your phone in via usb and do it that way. Save everything you need from the sd card, format it, then put it back on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] usualsuspec:
Is it hard to format? I have never done one before.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hexitnow:
No its insanely easy. Stick it in your pc after it mounts open windows explorer. Right click the drive letter it got mounted as and click format. Change filesystem to exfat and click format.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] richieroro:
After root, can someone tell me how to:

1) debloat

2) wifi tether

3) any other useful tricks/tweaks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
Me too. I know you can use Titanium Backup to lock apps from running, but can you actually uninstall them and free up the space?

Wi-Fi tether would be great too, since I have an unlimited plan, and it sems like all decent methods of tethering require root.

I've read every post in this thread, but an hesitant to do this for a few reasons, but I'm saving and bookbarking all the infor on helpful apps that unlock features as well as those needed for making sure I stay rooted. There has not been a lot of info on uninstalling, mostly locking, so I'm thinking you can't unistall, as I would have supected someone would have placed a list of crap software or bloatware vs. required or useful.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
You can uninstall any app with TIBU.

I use FoxFi for tether.

There's a thread in the bottom forum regarding tweaks and programs that can be removed, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2395307 (2nd post for bloatware suggestions that can be removed)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
Not true at all. My phone is completely stock, now on ME7 (BOOOO!!!!).

I downloaded PowerToggles from the Play Store. It's free.

One of the toggles lets you turn on and off the stock, built-in hotspot. You can go into the settings for the stock hotspot and configure whatever security you want. Then use PowerToggles to turn it on. On ME7, it will popup a message saying you need to subscribe, but you can ignore that. Hit the Home key and it will disappear and the hotspot will still be running.

PowerToggles does NOT require ROOT. The stock, built-in hotspot works well. It's less flaky than WiFi Tether, which is what I used to use on my Rezound.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
Thanks, I'll have to read into it when I get home. I SO want to do this. I'm just to chicken to brick my phone or be let down if it doesn't work. My past experience with rooting has not been good. I must have the only Samsung Fascinate S that CANT be rooted with One Click root!, but thats fuel for a separate thread! lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] surfsup1955:
does anyone have any idea why TiBu does not show 'move apps function' (internal <-> external storage) on the S4? that was one function I really wanted from the root access...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] iwearthebelt:
If youre talking about your app backups, In TiBu hit your menu key and select preferences, folder location, then set the path to your SD card. I can't ever remember TiBu having an apps 2 SD function.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I'll have to check out Power Toggles.

I read somewhere's that Verizen can still charge you for a tethering plan because they can still tell you are using their services. Thats one reason I never used tethering with my old Samsung S Fascinate. I'll check out Power Toggles.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] surfsup1955:
not talking about app back-up, I am talking about moving an app from the internal storage completely over to the external storage... TiBu does provide that capability (or it did on my VZW Thunderbolt), but for some reason, not on my VZW S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skiddingus:
It works great! Thank you! I had to run the exploit twice before SU showed up but it worked. Now my beloved "custom" splash screen is back on startup.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hallstevenson:
Try it. Can't hurt...

Why can't your format it to exFat?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] uchaloki:
Thank so much for the hard works!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pstgh:
sdm.apk

And where exactly would the sdm.apk be located?

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
Not yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skiddingus:
I was just feeling brave so I tried Triangle Away to get rid of the "custom" status. After running it, my phone rebooted into download mode and stuck there. I had to do a battery pull and after rebooting, Now I have no recovery. Every time I reboot the phone it shows the little blue "recovery booting" in the corner and then continues a normal boot. I can't even manually get into recovery. It seems like my recovery is completely gone but the phone give no errors otherwise. I guess I don't have to worry about an update pushing to my phone. Any idea how to get my recovery back?

Update: I got my recovery back by using the factory update file found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2357200

I used ODIN to flash it and then re-rooted afterwards. I didn't even lose any apps.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hallstevenson:
Why can't the internal SD card be used ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skiddingus:
Probably something to do with the exFat formatting requirement. (just guessing)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hallstevenson:
I haven't tried it, but if you connect your phone to the PC, you should be able to re-format the internal card.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] garrettsessions:
I used Titanium Backup. Froze it under applications.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pschatz12:
Where did you find the exposed app?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
Thanks for all the work you've done!

Just curious, do you think I should just do the update on my phone, root it and then just buy Titanium Backup to freeze the Verizon OTA program (can someone list the name of the program again?)? Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pstgh:
Yeah- that's what I did too....I was just curious where it resides.

Anyway, it's frozen- hope that works!! Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
If I format the microSD in the phone, using the phone's Format option, does that give me exFAT or what?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
If your SD is 64bg then you can do that. But if less, you have to format via computer.

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Is there a way to remove the Ongoing Wifi notification without recovery?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Legacystar:
Holly hell dude just buy a $5 8gb card. An exploit is finally found and people already want more. Jesus.....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] orlandoxpolice:
The AT&T guys are looking for root as well....is this something that would work or could be modified to work for them?

edit: nevermind, wont work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hallstevenson:
You're talking to the wrong person.

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It appears that if the card is less than 64gb, it will default to FAT32.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Febby:
Nicely done guys! =)))
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
I have a titanium backup of it. But you can find it here there are a few threads with links to the original.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bullhead00:
So have you used a significant amount of data using this method? If so, have you seen additional charges for that data? I was under the impression that Verizon was able to to tell that you were tethering if you were using the stock tether app. If they can tell, that would mean that any additional data you use with the stock tether app would be billed to you as internet tethering charges.

I'm about to get an S4 delivered to me on Friday (16GB Autumn brown edition). Normally, the first thing I do when I purchase a new Android device is obtain Root access - primarily for the ability to be able to debloat, and use apps that require root. If this method works reliably and doesn't result in the incurrence of additional data charges, I may use this instead of Wireless Tether even after I'm rooted.

So what ROM do you guys think my new phone will ship with? I had to buy it outright for $579 off of eBay because I'm still on Verizon's unlimited data plan. Bought from an eBay store, it's a brand new, never used device. I'm coming from my current phone which is an HTC Thunderbolt. Really looking forward to the upgrade. I just hope that this phone ends up having the level of freedom and customization I've enjoyed with my Thunderbolt. I was sick of dealing with an outdated device so I made what I figured was the most ultimate upgrade available to us Verizon users. Anyone have any thoughts?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
My high for data since I got the S4 is 3 GB. I have an Unlimited Plan and I have never been charged a tethering fee.

But, the fact of the matter is, it does not matter what method you use for tethering. They CAN tell, if you are tethering. The question is simply, will they bother to check and, if they determine you are tethering without paying for it, charge you extra?

My gut feeling is that as long as I/you don't abuse the tethering to consume large quantities of data, they will never bother to look at my account for that. If I were going to use tethering to consume large quantities of data, then I SHOULD pay the extra. What is "large quantities of data"? That's pretty subjective, but I would look at the rate plans they offer to get an idea of what Verizon thinks is normal. After all, their opinion is really the only one that matters. And, from their rate plans, I would say that 2 - 3 GB per month is what they consider to be normal. So, I personally would label anything over 6 - 8 GB per month as "large quantities".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] infirno77:
They DO check, and they will charge. When I used to have them, they got me for it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
Well said, however very sujective. One would have to know the threshhold of what is flagged by the VZ system as high usage. I would also contend that the contract I signed (who reads those??) should very well specifiy that unlimited data excludes tethering or be limited to what my device can download without sharing.....or some clear verbage as to what device can be entitled to the data. I can't imagine it doesn't thats why no one spends the time to read such a contracts as they are written by lawyers for lawyers. :eek: I have tethered a bit with my old phone and was never charged. But I also maybe did less than 2GB total on my unlimited plan. If someone where to read the contract, and if it doesn't mention unlimited data is limited to phone only or excludes tethered devices, then there should be NOTHING they can do, or it would be at best arguable in a court of law.

^This.

How much were you using?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
Yes, what qualifies as "large quantities" is obviously very subjective.

As for the Terms of Service of the data plan? Well, I read mine (for my Unlimited Data plan). And it does VERY CLEARLY (if you read it) specify that it excludes tethering. Anybody that knows enough to know what tethering is and that they want to do it can easily understand the written Terms of Service to understand that it is not allowed (unless you pay extra for tethering).

It's really not a lot different than an All You Can Eat buffet. Do you (or anybody else) really need big bold writing on the sign to tell you that it's only what you can eat during that one visit and that if you leave and come back you have to pay again? In other words, just because the title says "Unlimited Data" does not mean that any reasonable person would expect that it means Unlimited with absolutely no fine print, exclusions, exceptions, etc.. "Free Tires For Life", "Free Gas For Life", "All You Can Eat", "Lifetime Warranty", etc., etc., nothing in life is truly unlimited, no matter what the Marketing Department says in the headline.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
I would have used tha analogy of bringing your freinds to the buffet and expecting them to eat all they can on your dinner ticket... :D

Thanks for making that clear, it's what I thought, but never took teh tiem to read. So those who tether are techniclly doing something illegal. Food for thought....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
Well, if you want to be technical, what "they" ;) are doing is not illegal. They're not breaking a law. They can't get arrested for doing it. It's just a violation of the Terms of Service. If Verizon chooses to, Verizon can take whatever action is provided for as recourse in the Terms of Service. I don't remember exactly what remedies are provided for, but I'd assume they could start charging you for tethering (which might also include changing you to a "currently offered" data plan that allows for the tethering option), they could throttle your bandwidth, they could turn off your data altogether, or they could terminate your contract (though this is VERY unlikely, since that would let you out of your contract with no ETF).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] infirno77:
I used less than 500mb, but as soon as I used it the first time, they sent me a text warning me if I used it again without paying the fee it would be automatically added to my next bill. Just saying, course I swore never to use Verizon again. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stuartv:
That's definitely weird. I've been using PowerToggles since May, to turn on the stock hotspot. And I used WiFi Tether on my Rezound and, before that, my Thunderbolt. Never an issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
THAT is weird. Sure there isn't another side to this story your not telling us? :D (Thats a rhetorical question) :D

I've probably tetherd 3-4 GB total over the last two years. Every VZ location is different or is open to interpretation I guess.

But I think we are going way off topic here guys. This will be my last post on this. Lets keet the OP and mods happy.;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] flatulence:
I came from a Thunderbolt on an Unlimited plan too. In the settlement last summer with the FCC, Verizon stopped charging for tethering which is why they're fighting so hard to move everyone to a tiered data plan now. I've never heard of any speed throttling but would it really be surprising if it were to happen? Unlimited data plans are like gold (check ebay) and worth keeping. I am one of the lucky ones with a family plan that has a loophole allowing unlimited data on MY phone while still getting subsidized new hardware - Woot!

I hope your new phone arrives without the ME7 update on it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AndroidGraphix:
Thanks a million man. I completely forget we could freeze apk's with TB. Doing that as I type, ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jamesonelam:
I think it has been linked already, but there is a de-bloat thread to tell you what you can freeze in TiBu. See below.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2395307

Enjoy!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] denpad2010:
I have a SanDisk 64gb card i know is exfat still need format it i dont want lose my files
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] denpad2010:
Excellent I just rooted and I didn't need format my card

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So we can't install custom rom yet?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twistmycap:
I keep getting this :(

formatted my 32gb SD card to exFat on my macbook

And still have no luck. I have the root exploit on my external SD card as well
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
Why are you freezing apps you don't want rather than just deleteing them and free up the space? :confused:

Wow. Never realized there was so much! So if one were to remove ALL the stuff listed there, what the heck could you do with the phone? lol. just make calls and any app you install ~ right? :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jamesonelam:
I know you can just delete them. I just prefer to freeze them in case I run into an issue and need to stop at Verizon. That way I just "defrost" them and delete superSU app so the rep is none the wiser

;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swordmastr54:
I rather doubt they would even care but if it makes you feel better thats fine lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] beez1717:
I had the issue where when I used my old Xperia Play to mount the SD card on my Mac, all hell broke loose and my card was deemed corrupted by the system. I then took about an hour or more finding my Micro SD to SD card adapter, I popped it in my laptop, formatted the sucker, put all the folders on the root of the card and BOOM it worked. Perhaps your issue is the fact that whatever method you are using to format the SD card is causing something wrong to happen?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] denpad2010:
When you extract the zip file, then you paste the folder in the SD card? Because you have to open that folder and you will find another folder and 3 other files so you need move that folder and the other 3 files to the root of the SD card (hope you understand what I'm saying I'm not a native English speakers)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twistmycap:
Do I have to extract the zip file?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thornev:
Yes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twistmycap:
Thank you all! Gots it! Is it possible to flash Roms now? Sorry I know it sounds like a dumb question, I hear the bootloader is locked so not sure if that interferes with the recovery and flashing
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adavit:
As of right now you can using ss but its still in developmental stages and not prime time ready, so I say no, not yet. Give it some time though, it seems to be coming along quite well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] twistmycap:
Yea I read up on using loki recovery?

Not sure what to do

So as of the time I'll just enjoy my root until something major happens lol

Thank you :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thornev:
What is "ss"?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bait-Fish:
Safestrap by hashcode.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45185924
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adavit:
Sorry I blanked out when I was writing and could only think of ss lol...glad that you got an answer though :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
For 16gb model users, you do not mind losing at least another 2gb of storage? Not being incredulous, but am curious.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thornev:
I've got 7.8GB available. Yes I'd be happy to use it to be able to play with ROMs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Tool Belt:
Have a 16gb, not into gaming at all. Rooted, debloated, have all the apps I need and still have 8 gb available.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] broderp:
With stock build on my S4, I have 6.06GB free, and thats including many apps (many that are moved to SD card, but not all)

Wouldn't de-bloating and unistalling apps kind of give you more room anyways? If there not 2GB+ of bloat that can be deleted? :confused:

That list looked HUGE!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
The bloat is less than 200mb. The actual rom and allocated space is the space hogger. If an app fan and rom fan, seems the 32gb model is a better fit for SS.