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[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] IndianKarmas:
The real culprit is new maps version, if you can find and downgrade to version 6.14.4 you will be fine. I know it coz I faced similar issues with upgrade but I had a backup of my map app which saved me
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
It is more involved than just the map version. I have a unit running JWR66N which comes with 6.14.4 maps and it loses ability to lock after a while.

Actually it is worse than on JSS15J with Maps 7.0.1 and all Google Play services disabled.

If the culprit was just Maps 7.0.1, then it wouldn't matter whether I was running JSS15J or JWR66N, Maps 6.14.4 should have resolved it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
I am on 6.9.1 and I could NOT get any kind of lock this morning. I gave the system about 20 mins but nada. Just that stupid flashing dot. I think I am just going to buy a BT GPS and jsut use the N7 as a disply. I CANNOT imagine anyone over at Google rushing to fix this. Not for nothing but my SGSIII is spotty at time with its on board GPS. It seems to be the nature of the beast?

Called Google to log a complaint. Guy on the phone, bless him, tried to help, said he wanted to 'fix' it...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jayband1:
Anyone try disabling video output in the N7 to see if it works? Could be hardware interference.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
I was just outside for about 45 mins.

Fresh reboot.

This version of Google Maps I have doesn't seem to trigger the GPS automatically. I had to turn it on manually. Also not sure if this version of maps follows me as I kept walking off the screen. The GPS lock was good. Solid dot.

I was able to switch between CoPilot Live and OsmAnd while keeping the GPS lock. Indicated by the icon and OsAnd said I was on 12 of 22 birds.

CoPilot Live took the longest to acquire a GPS signal, but did eventually.

I dunno.....I was only walking.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jamesc760:
Any updates on the issue? I am still having problems with gps on mine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
You probably had location disabled under Google Settings.

The location setting for Google Apps is separate from the location setting for all other apps. They don't have to match.

If for example you had location settings enabled for GPS under settings->location but had location disabled under Google Settings, then it would behave the way you describe.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Shadowlore:
Having looked at the past few pages.. has anyone thought of possibly checking/comparing serials on these units?

I ask, because I've used mine for GPS (tethered to my Galaxy Nexus for data) for the last 2 weeks, and aside from when I go through the local tunnel, I've had zero problems with GPS using Waze, Google Maps, or Google Earth. (when I'm sitting inside work, it will indicate I'm in the parking lot, but as soon as I walk outside, I can even watch myself walking across the lot.

*shrug*

Not trying to be 'that guy' who is saying they're having no problems.. just trying to see if there's anything I can do to help everyone isolate the cause here.

*quick edit: I will note that I occasionally have widget issues of the icons disappearing or so.. but I think that might be launcher related, not so much 4.3 or the Nexus 7 :) (just goes to show that even I have some issues :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] aooga:
I have ZERO problems at all with the GPS as far as I can see. What are you guys doing to test it. I've run the app GPS Test and got a lock (inside and outside) within 5-15 seconds and it stays that way for a good 10 minutes (I got bored after that and left). I'll happily test anything that you guys want since I seem to have a perfectly fine unit. (as do others I'm assuming).
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
You thinking the Dual electronics unit? Seems to be about the only option and at that it's $100--only reason I haven't already gone this route. Point of this was a CHEAP tablet.

As for the second comment...any AOSP based ROM wreaks havoc on my SGS3's GPS, as well. Of course the bloated Samsung ROMs work just fine :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] truelies1:
How to test if my nexus 7 gps has problem or not?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] patrickoneal:
Try to use it to navigate somewhere(I think it's reasonably reliable if you stay still at home connected to wifi). For me Google navigation(in maps) holds on for a while. Tethered to my phone and running Waze, GPS drops very quickly. I've had Google navigation work for over an hour on a fresh reboot, so you may have to go on a long trip to expose the problem. There's no need to really, they're all defective.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] truelies1:
This is not easy. The long trip needs another people hold the nexus all the way. Any in home test?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Brava27:
I don't see this as a huge issue as I use my phone for gps navigation. I'll gladly wait for an update for my nexus regard this issue. It isn't a deal breaker by any means.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] truelies1:
I just tried this. Sitting at home, used google map to a place for an hour. No problem, quit map, rerun it, worked ok.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Henchmin:
Same. I haven't had a random reboot either since disabling gps.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jove39:
Gps test shows 0 in view sattelites

GPS is toast on N7.2...like everyone else I hope its driver issue...on reboot gps works fine but after a while...it dies and never locks again...gps test shows 0 sats in view.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
I think that might be my choice. They have a new sky pro model that is super cool. Costs 150 though. We now go from cheap tablet to a 100 or 150 dollar add on to make it function like it should. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] philosopher09:
Why don't you wait a bit and see if it can be fixed with an update?!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
It is hard to wait....but I know I should. :) and I will.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] patrickoneal:
So what? I told you that you have to go on a trip to get the GPS to drop. What good is a GPS that only works when you're sitting around the house?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] truelies1:
What do you think any difference between go out or not? It's still using GPS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
It is sorta the point and the reason for the suggestion. I was out for hours and covered 150 miles in city areas and in remote areas in the woods. GPS was a failure.

In furtherance to that Flo locked up on me at the X. Flo then spent the rest of the day in the tail bag. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
Because you can't see if you have an actual issue if you're not moving. Mine will lockup and stay "reading" the location it locked up at.

They have a week to figure this out or the POS is going back and I'll find something else.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Shadowlore:
Update on this.. used the tablet all day on Saturday to get from place to place while shooting (photographer)... drove almost 300 miles over 16hours... tablet only lost GPS while driving through a tunnel (30seconds or so).

That said, I'm pretty sure that's a pretty hefty pointer that the issue is NOT existing in every unit. Will test it out more this weekend, as I have an approximately 1000 mile drive to another photo shoot this weekend. (from St Louis to about 120 miles west of Denver) But as of right now, I'm not seeing any issues with the GPS in this unit.

For the record:

Unit purchased 2 days before the 'official' release

from Walmart

running Build JSS15J

Unlocked

Rooted

TeamWin Recovery

Serial begins with 05

current uptime: 17:38:31s (some moron drained the battery fully... *innocent whistle*)

Still thinking there's some correlation to those having GPS issues, and point of manufacture.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Georgieporgie:
This fixed my gps problem

If your tethering to a wireless hotspot while using gps disable "Wi-Fi and network location" in "location settings." After rebooting this fixed all my gps problems. I think the gps crashes under these circumstances because it's trying to find the location of a Wi-Fi hotspot the does not actually have a location.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Will try this in a couple days when I drive into town. Did you test this with a long drive?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Georgieporgie:
Gps used to lock up on me in less than 20 min of driving. Since I shut off wifi and network location I've been on back to back 50 min drives and about four 30 min drives without a problem.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Markdek:
I'd like to take those 14 "NO" votes out for a drive w/ their N7's, and show them a thing or two....lol.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Shadowlore:
I was actually one of those votes, and I'm well past 1500 miles traveled using the GPS on my N7.

The poll question is: 'Are *YOU* having GPS issues"... so while I'm sure many people are having problems, obviously not everyone is.. and they can only vote based on their own experiences.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
Where can I find the Wi-Fi and network location setting? I'd like to test this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Ken401:
Settings>Location access>Wi-Fi & mobile network location. It has a box that can be checked/unchecked.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
Of course, thank you. Been looking in Google settings and Wi-Fi settings, forgot they had location settings too. These settings in too many damn places...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Ken401:
Agree.

At first I had issues with GPS getting a lock. I downloaded an app called GPS Test that provided some insight into the N7's connection to satellites. In that app's Settings there is an option to Clear AGPS and Update AGPS. It may be total coincidence, but GPS seems to be working better now. I am not going to say it fixed the problem, but it seemed to help at least temporarily.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
I've done this... it's a standard thing to do with any GPS-Assisted phone... but I don't think it has anything to do with the issues the majority of us are having.

Has anyone heard confirmation from Google? This needs addressing asap...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
well, not sure if this is good news or bad news.

I bought a new Nexus 7 same model today... same ROM (CM 10.2) and same location and GPS works perfectly so far. I am locking on inside of my apartment indoors for hours now and if I turn it off and back on the lock is achieved again within 30 seconds...

Starting to think it may be a possibility that a large portion of the manufactured units are defective...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Try driving around for more than 30 min and report back. I'm on the edge of my return period and I'd rather not deal with Asus tech support

Edit: just tried wiping everything and running bare CM10.2 with just gmaps. Test failed. Going to try with Sygic now
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
I have never turned on WiFi and Network location...still having issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Will do in the morning.

Unfortunately, looks like I will need to return this one as well. I have the multitouch issue on the new one.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2381123

I definitely think there are quality control issues. First one GPS didn't work right, but multitouch was fine. Now I have GPS, but multitouch messed up.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
GPS works great on new unit... Not one issue.... But the touch screen is unusable. Repeated keys, unable to pinch in or out... Total mess it zooms in when I have only one finger on the screen.

Another one I will be returning. I feel bad for staples but this is Google problem they need to fix... And I am 80% sure it is hardware now since two units clearly exhibit 2 different issues.

Also it sounds stupid, but I noticed there is a different charger ncluded with new one. I think they came from different factories with different unskilled workers.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Well, the unit with GPS working but touchscreen not working was returned today. I got another one, which the touchscreen worked great, but GPS died out after 5 minutes.

I became obsessed with it today, so I went to return it once again (3rd unit today). Sure enough, this unit I have now has a lock on GPS for over an hour, and the touchscreen sensitivity is perfect.

I would urge you all NOT to outrule the possibility of a hardware failure, and not to tolerate any hassle any retail outlet gives you. This is a great device, but like any electronic made in China, quality control appears to be a huge issue. I went through 4 devices until finding a perfectly working unit. After 14 days or whatever return policy is up, it will be much harder to RMA, deal with Google on the return. I bought from Staples and got the 2 year replacement plan. I think I am finally satisfied.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
The recent comments here are convincing me to get a refund through Amazon and just purchase the device through a local retailer. The $20 tax is worth being able to exchange a device in a day. Does anyone know if Amazon will cover the return shipping?

Edit: Just requested a refund. They made me a label and everything. Now to find a box to ship it back in. There was also a replacement offered that shipped in 1-2 months lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] cr2069:
Just found out today, my Nexus 7 had same GPS locking up issue. I used the GPS for the first time, it worked for 10 minutes, then lost position and never lock GPS again(stay in "Searching for GPS" forever).....
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Diknak@gmail.com:
Has anyone had the GPS problem and installed a custom ROM? If so, did it fix the GPS?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] rxnelson:
Has anyone been successful in bringing it back without a reboot? I read a guy said toggling Bluetooth worked but it didn't for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Rooted all 3 of my Nexus and each time installed Cm 10. 2 it didn't fix anything
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] AnarchoXen:
It seems that some BT Receivers are losing connection with this new google maps.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Diknak@gmail.com:
10.2 is Android 4.3 so unfortunately that doesn't rule out a software issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
I have found that if I hard reset and ONLY use Google maps, no issue. The second ANY other app uses GPS, I can no longer get a lock.

For the people saying it's a hardware issue... It can't be. I have no issue with GPS until another app tries using it.

If you "don't have this gps problem," please try using ANY other app that uses GPS (example, Car Home will instantly kill my GPS).

---------- Post added at 04:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:31 PM ----------

Make sure you throw a screen shut off in there, as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] vcallas:
I experience the same thing if I only use Google Maps it seems to keep connected while driving. If I try and use Waze or play Ingres usually my position locks in 5 minutes. I do not think WiFi is an issue as I get the same result if I am connected with a hotspot or not.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
It looks like Amazon trusts me to not rip them off. Shipped out the tablet yesterday and they processed the refund before it even left Vegas. I'll report back if the GPS issue is fixed on my next unit
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
8 units bought and returned for either GPS issue, multitouch, or bad pixels
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Brava27:
Hahaha sucka. GPS is software related genius.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
Sucka? Where is your proof? Google has said nothing of the sort. We are all running same software why would some have issue and some not?

Silence, FOOL
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Brava27:
If it was hardware related, you would have never had it working to begin with. Go return your 9th tablet and get an ipad mini.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] berardi:
It craps out after 5 minutes, GENIUS

If you really think all the issues are software related you are delusional
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Brava27:
Still works though, even for 5 minutes :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] MikeMurphy:
GPS unit sucks a lot of power. Maybe it's overheating ie. hardware? Anyways, hopefully it gets fixed.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Temporarily working still doesn't rule out a hardware issue. I'd say the multiple returns should push Google/Asus to fix the problem faster because they lose money on each return.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
Because people that "don't have the issue" have not used GPS such that it would kick out...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] hyperxguy:
I can goto settings and carefully disable apps/services which may use GPS-location --> my GPS would run fine for days.

I can re-enable and trigger those apps/services and my GPS will cease to work soon enough.

It's a SW issue and I believe in google to fix it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
So you 81% of pollsters who have GPS lockup issues, did any of you exchange a unit or have tried more than one?

Could you add your findings to this poll? Thanks.

[Poll] Has anyone with GPS issues received a replacement with no GPS issues?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] maopr16:
update google service to 3.2.25 (761454-36)

Try this:

update google service to 3.2.25 (761454-36)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] rxnelson:
Doesn't fix it. I updated yesterday. Made it to work OK. Failed on the way back.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] maopr16:
Yeah, yesterday it all worked fine, now today same thing until reboot. The signal at least stays for the the one trip now...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RR215:
I am on my 3rd unit since 2 exchanges. Original purchase on 7-28 from BB was a June manufacture date.....2nd and 3rd units from BB were/are July manufacture date.

All 3 acted the same in regards to the way they lost the GPS signal after various minutes of being locked on with google maps/navigation and the GPS Test app.

Someone on this or possibly on AC forum mentioned that they though they had better/longer lock of the GPS signal when they were on the road and still had the WiFi ON.....and as long as the WiFi was seeing connections but not connected to one.....it would retain the current lock.

I tested this theory with a 30 minute drive I do a few times per week. It involves driving about 2 miles through suburban neighborhoods, then about 15 miles of highway driving were little if any WiFi signals could be seen....then finishing off with 1 mile of suburban/commercial area driving. (Turning off WiFi after I left my house would then result in GPS loss after 5 mins or so).

I changed this drive route to be half the highway miles and went through the commercial and more city roads trying to drive in areas where I knew there would be WiFi signals on those roads. I did notice the GPS signal did stay on lock when the N7 was seeing consistent WiFi connections available but not connected to them. As soon as I got on the highway again for the middle part of the drive....it lost signal shortly there after. So this is something that makes me think it is software related.

I wonder if the same GPS radio and circuitry is the same on this unit as the first N7 gen? Also, I have not checked yet on the first gen N7 boards about any GPS problems with the 4.3 update to JB. I wonder if the current 4.3 update is the cause.

Has anyone tested the GPS without installing the 2nd update on the N7 2013? A good friend is asking me what tablet he should get....Im considering telling him to take advantage lower price of the first gen N7 as the GPS was super solid for me. That is one main thing he wants in a tablet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Ken401:
There is an option under Advanced WiFi that would be interesting to experiment with in your scenario. It can be found under: Settings>Wi-Fi>Menu Icon>Advanced. The option Scanning Always Available can be turned off. It has something to do with utilizing WiFi for location even when WiFi is turned off. My Nexus 10 would lose its WiFi connection after 4.3 every few hours, but its been solid after turning this option off. I turn it back on, and the problem re-appears.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] RR215:
Yes...I have this option (Scanning always available) set to off. I even have Google Play Services Disabled as well. (I had same results with the Play Services enabled as well).

For my last 30 min GPS test drive I even had the "WiFi & mobile network location" set to off in the Location access menu. With it on, I had pretty much the same GPS signal loss.

But one thing I could add. With my last couple 30 min test drives, Using the Navigate function in Google maps.....several times when it lost the GPS lock....it regained it again. Sometimes is was for 5 or 10 seconds or 1 to 10 mins or so. But I did not have to reboot to get a signal back. I did reboot before and got it back, but the last few times I did the test dive I let it be and just wanted to see if the the GPS signal would come back as I drove....and it did several times.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] PJ Clifford:
I have been itching to buy one of these, but have held off due to this issue. While it appears that there ARE a few that are not having problems, it seems a pretty safe bet that I will be one of those that will have the problem.

I am kinda new to this, only having had a couple of devices in the past, both of which worked within their capability. My question is that I have an old, decommissioned (not active with a cell phone carrier) Galaxy S phone in which the GPS unit seems to work fine. Would it be possible to Bluetooth tether the GS unit's GPS to the Nexus to provide GPS to the Nexus until this problem can be resolved? From reading all this, I am fairly sure it is likely not a hardware issue, but I need the Nexus to do GPS out of the box and I need to make a decision on the purchase (or lack of) fairly soon.

Will this work-around?

-- PJ
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Khimik:
Yes. It's possible to tether GPS from Galaxy S to Nexus via BT. I've tested it in this mode and it seems to be OK. You need to turn on Moke providers option in Developers menu and some additional software. However, some games (Ingress) may require built-in GPS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] rxnelson:
Maybe double check the Galaxy S GPS first? Isn't that a Captivate? I heard some of them had awful GPS.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] PJ Clifford:
Would you turn that on on the Nexus, the GS or both? ..and what additional software? Thanks!

It's actually a Fascinate. The GPS seems to work fine on the device. In fact, that is probably my major use for the device and what, ultimately I would be replacing with the Nexus.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Brava27:
Found a fix:

Not sure if it's been mentioned already but if you disable the location, wifi, network option, then power off device, reboot then see if that option is still disabled then gps works fine. I've tested it with gps tester and Google maps. Works fine.

Report back if it doesn't work for you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] klobkelosh:
I tried this before. I thought it worked, but signal dropped after a while. I think i didn't let it stay on for long enough but when I let it go for 40 mins it stopped working.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Khimik:
The Moke providers option should be switched on on your Nexus. I've used "GPS 2 Bluetooth v.4" on SGS to make it a GPS receiver accessible via BT. And "Bluetooth GPS" for Nexus to work with the external BT GPS receivers. There are also a lot of other software with the same functionality.

P.S. SGS really has poor GPS performance, so you need to be sure it's enough for you.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] awenthol:
Yes it's been mentioned and no it's not a fix. Try other apps that access GPS
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Has anyone tried GPS with the new update yet? My new N7 won't be here until Monday if the estimated delivery date is correct
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Flippy125:
Looks like it does fix it. http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...pdate-solves-the-2013-nexus-7-gps-issues-too/
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] scandalousk:
So it seems:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] hyperxguy:
Slimbean ROM has an off-schedule early release.

After update, I can no-longer fail the GPS, so far.

EDIT: Spoke too soon..

I managed to kill the GPS lock while testing (running/switching multiple apps using GPS locator).

Back to square one. If Slimbean ROM update is total based on JSS15Q, then google hasn't fixed the GPS yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Fred@asus:
I've heard that the new update (JSS15Q) should be rolling out and should resolves some issues. Some of you might have received it already if you can keep us all posted and see if you noticed any particular changes that would be great.