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[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] MattDN93:
Till today I wasn't getting the update but here's honestly how I got it to work, literally from one minute to the next I got the update to show (it has indeed, confirmed by YAMTT fixed my glitchy touch and also GPS lock issues):

*Go to settings>apps and find "Google Services Framework" (NOT Google Play Services)

*In the app settings page tap "clear data" but DO NOT FC the app.

*Check for updates again. This probably won't change anything so REPEAT the above process

*For myself I had to repeat 4 times. After this, the update appeared and installed fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] May82:
I recently noticed the single tap issue after the recent update. Factory reset didn't help. Before the update I had ghost touches when 2 points were touched on the same axis, the update fixed that but now when I type every once on awhile a key won't register or will get "stuck" like I'm pressing and holding (it's happened twice just typing this). My question is this:

Is this most likely a software or hardware problem? I really love this tablet and if another update is going to fix this issue I'll stick it out. I'm inclined to think its software because I don't remember having this issue before the update but I may have just not noticed it. Any guesses?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trvbone:
F yea dude that worked! I thought about that a couple days ago but never actually did it thanks for that Lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
It is probably a little of both. There are obviously hardware variances with these capacitative touchscreens because some people are seeing the problem and others are not with the same software/firmware versions.

Most of the time these variances can be dealt with in the touchscreen firmware, but it seems with these tablets they are playing whack-a-mole with the touchscreen issues where they plug one problem and another pops up.

You can see the whole sordid history of our touchscreen firmware from JWR66N all the way to JSS15Q in this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44954563#post44954563

I think if they are motivated enough, they will eventually fix the problem you are seeing, as your screen can obviously perform better w/r/t the taps on the previous touchscreen firmware.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Well, made the jump today. Still on 66N. So far, no signs of the multi-touch bug. Have been playing with YAMTT. No problems yet. As for as the keyboard, I use SwiftKey. Don't know if that makes a difference.

Edit: Installed JSS15Q, so far, so smooth! :D Really hoping I'm one of the lucky ones! :D!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] MattDN93:
Updating fixed my multitouch problems but now I'm getting higher than normal battery drain, I installed no new apps and didn't change any device settings, always scanning is off, WiFi sleep on after screen off, low brightness, no gaming, and before I'd get 2 days with 11hr screen on time now its 1 day with 6hrs. Any ideas?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Hard to say. Are you on stock? How is your screen time? Are you actually using the tablet more often? I have yet to own mine 24hrs. Battery seems pretty darn good.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] MattDN93:
Yes fully stock unrooted with a locked boot loader for now. Its the same usage pattern as before the update, web browsing, light gaming, mainly reading lecture slides and stuff on campus, I had 11hr screen on time which is really good and now its dropped off by 4 hours... No new apps though but yet in safe mode it seems to drain more slowly...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] seluropnek:
For the record, the update minimized my multitouch issue - it used to go completely insane when crossing axis - but the problem still exists, albeit in a much more minor form, and it's really only there if I look for it.

Basically if I open a multitouch test app and put two fingers down, if two are close to the same axis one will try to sort of "pull" the other to the axis it's on. For example, if I put one finger on the x axis and hold it steady, and then put another finger near the same axis and slowly move it up and down, I can see the "steady" point moving up and down too. Before it would actually pull the points together and start throwing crazy ghost touches all over the screen, making things zoom in and out wildly, but now it's limited to just trying to "stick" to an axis. Huge improvement for sure, but still a bit wonkier than I've come to expect from a touchscreen.

In practice the only time this is noticeable is in Google Maps, where if I do a two-finger rotation, it appears to get stuck occasionally when my fingers line up on the x or y axis.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Jashafi:
Still have issues with Touch screen post update

I am still having issues with mult-touch on my Nexus 7 on build JSS15Q. Flashed via bootlader. The update definitely did reduce the issue, but did not remove it completely. I made a video on Youtube that shows the problem here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Le3yBGJbE

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Have the same issue. It feels like my finger is a magnet or something. Some times it repels the other touch, other times it attracts.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] highfigh:
I never really had any issues except the one finger tap dead spots. But since the update I am getting phantom long-presses on the keyboard. Has happened twice since update and never before.

ElementalX 1.2

Slimbean beta 3
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] huizingajm:
Touch

The only problems I have had is that sometimes I will touch the screen and it selects about half an inch above where I touched. This did not start until I was using CM10.2. Running VanirAOSP and ElementalX1.1 I had no touch issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kongmyy:
my touch behaves weirdly sometimes. Sometimes after unlocking the device, I need to press harder than usual in some areas (mostly the center area), I tried using YAMTT when the issue comes up, it shows multiple touches registering randomly when i a touch is registered. locking and unlocking the device fixes the issue but it's getting annoying. (locking and unlocking as in [pressing power button lol), during JSS15J the issue happens sometimes but somehow I get higher chance of getting it during JSS15Q.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Can't say much as how my device behaved prior to JSS15Q, I updated within a couple of hours after purchasing the device to JSS15Q. The only bug I've noticed is some apps might lock up for a second when trying to swipe on them, making it appear like it did not register the touch. Pressing back then going back to the app solves it. YAMTT has shown nothing like the video in OP. No wonky keyboard either. Have yet to test GPS. My suggestion, keep retuning the device, till you get one that properly works.

Edit. When typing this message, my keyboard froze for a second. The character pressed stayed up far longer then it should have. Well, overall, I'm still very happy with my Nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trvbone:
I've got the random 1 finger dead touch spots is really annoying but otherwise all works well, not sure if it's worth exchanging again.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] player911:
You're not alone. My tab was fine earlier. Now that I flashed to 15Q, I'm getting the same issue with the keyboard. I'm on CM Kanged Build 9 now, using the AOKP keyboard, and its always inputting ALT characters like a tap and hold. Its random.

I also found I have a huge problem with pinch zoom now.

When I lay the tablet down on the bed and swipe in portrait from top to bottom with a slow, solid, touch and swipe down, it won't register the touch until half way. I made a video of it and it does it pretty much every time.

It isn't a dead spot as I can tap. Also if I use my fingernail, I can make it work. Its almost like it isn't sensitive enough in the top half.

I even tried to flash a nandroid from 15J and it now does it in there too.

I never had an issue until 15Q. Now its aggravating. My APW widgets have issues scrolling. Sometimes while scrolling, it will get stuck and the widget will start moving around or resize. My screen input stops all together for like 1-2 seconds randomly when typing. I've banged out a whole word and not a single character gets entered. Then it does the alt character thing. And pinch/zoom is a pain in the ass. I can zoom out easily but not zoom in. Scrolling is also meh. Doesn't seem as responsive.

All this is with 2 hands. With the tab laying down, it almost doesn't even register taps in the top half of the screen at all. I can hit a button like 8 times before it takes. In YAMMT app, it registers all of my taps no problem. Its a little flaky one handed though.

I AM using the official screen protector but I have been. I noticed issues immediately after flashing 15Q. And I've tested using YAMMT many many many times on both updates.

I'm going to try flashing the DEODEXd rom linked a few pages back.

I'll post back and try to upload a video too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] May82:
Yeah, sounds like my exact issue (haven't tried the swipe down from the top yet though) the reason it has stayed when you flash back to 15J is because once you flash the 15Q firmware there is no going back. This would be the perfect tablet for me if they get this issue fixed. After a lot of reading and research I'm pretty confident it will be but its pretty frustrating in the mean time.

Edit: I also tried flipping the tablet and typing on the other end of the screen and get the same results so it looks like its not confined to any one part of my touchscreen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] phazerorg:
I was in the same position as you, but tonight decided to exchange again anyway. I'm now on my fourth tablet and so far this one seems to be the lucky one. I took a laptop and immediately flashed the Q factory image right there in my car in the parking lot. YAMTT seemed to look fine so I left and have been using it all evening.

So far this tablet seems perfect. No touch issues at all, GPS works, no dead pixels, even no backlight bleed. I was starting to wonder if a perfect one really did exist or if people who claimed to have no problems were just not noticing the issues or putting up with them. But I've lived with the issues though three tablets and this new one has zero that I can find so far. Issue-free ones do exist! But you can't really tell what you're going to get.

Build date is 2013/07 just like my other three in case anyone is wondering.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
New spokesperson for Nexus 7 2013.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJh59vZ8ccc

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As I mentioned on the other thread, once you get the A042 touchscreen firmware from the JSS15Q kernel, you are stuck with the A042 touchscreen firmware even if you downgrade/restore earlier ROMs.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] trvbone:
Lmao

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You're really making me want to exchange mind again...
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] player911:
Thats what I was getting at. I'm just doing a bunch of tests and posting my results.

I don't recommend screwing around with flashing stuff after midnight while you are half-way watching a movie. I just flashed the DEOXED Stock rom without wiping = bootlooped. Booted into TWRP and completely wiped EVERYTHING = no OS or Nandroids. So I have a blank N7 with only TWRP on it. Having to download GAPPS and a ROM over slow hotel WiFi is gonna be fun.

Really annoying all around.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] phazerorg:
Haha. Sadly true, it seems.

I've been following this issue, but missed that post. Found it in the other thread. Good info, thanks!
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] rafa3L:
Androidheadlines did a follow up article on the multi touch issue after the Q software update. http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-still-plaguing-2013-nexus-7-post-jss15q.html
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
Would any of you like to try this and give some feedback?

Take that multi-touch! Fix and lock in what works for YOU regardless of updates
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] wasnt:
So this problem died? Everyone is resolved?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] michaelg1030:
Yeah I have a SP on my N4 and I can't ever so gently touch the screen and move my finger around in the screen without it registering as a touch. So I am used to typing on my N4 this way. The N7's screen is just super sensitive and I am not able to touch the screen without it registering.

So a SP on the N7 would probably help with this or I'll just get used typing on the N7. Maybe I'll remove the SP on my N4 so the screens are more similar.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] HKSpeed:
I just installed an illumishield brand screen protector on my N7, which made a HUGE difference in screen sensitivity. I can type and navigate much more accurately with the screen protector applied. I think the bare N7 fhd screen is way too slippery, almost like a freshly waxed car. The screen protector creates a squeeky clean feeling, like a freshly washed car before waxing. I am typing this on my N7 and I did not experience any errors.

More info on the screen protector at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2379653&page=36

Edit: before the screen protector my N7-2 didn't recognize my ebay stylus. the screen protector provides traction for the stylus.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Lexord:
Isn't there any apps, or changes in the build.prop that lets you change the screen sensitivity?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] eyecon82:
Mine works fine doing that
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] jiggytom:
It's software related because it mainly happens with the X or Y coordinates on each finger cross...on all different parts of the screen. It it were hardware related, it would only happen in certain parts of the screen and more randomly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] qdroid:
How does one know if or when Google is aware of the possible issue
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] michaelg1030:
Email them, start a chat with Asus, send a message via twitter or Facebook.

There are plenty of ways to contact them and maybe someone can give you an answer or at least recognize the issue.

My only gripe with these complaints is that none of the respected and well publicized review outlets (CNET, Engadget......) mention this as an issue. Only on xda do you read about it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] splitpea:
I made a post on the Google product forums and got a response from a Google employee, so at least someone there is aware of it. He suggested I try booting to safe mode and check if the problem persisted. It did and I'm waiting on a response back.

I can't link to it because my xda account doesn't have enough posts, but you can search for a post titled "Nexus 7 (2013) erratic touchscreen & keyboard" on the google mobile help forum to find it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] v3rn:
Having this issue as well. It's making games that use multitouch almost impossible to play. I would just like to know whether it's a hardware or software problem so I can return it before 30 days is up if it's a hardware one.

When I'm touching with two fingers, and they cross axis, the touch screws up incredibly bad. This is what makes gaming impossible. This goes away if the Nexus 7 is plugged into the wall charger though. But even while plugged in, I will still get ghost touches. It's amazing how bad the touch is when I compare it to my Galaxy S4 using the same multitouch testers. The Nexus 7 has some serious issues with the touchscreen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] retsen:
My first Nexus 7 had the multi-touch issue right out of the box...before and after the updates. I returned it to Best Buy and the second unit seemed to be flawless but after two days it is starting to exhibit the same issue to a lesser extent but seems to be getting worse. I didn't see where anyone had opened an issue with Google so, whether it merits it or not or it was the correct place for it, I've entered one, its issue 58401 if anyone would like to add to it...I linked this thread in the issue.

You would think that it would have to be a hardware issue as we all (non-rooted users) are using the same software by way of Android 4.3 (if you took both updates)...if it were a software issue why would some have it and some not as well as varying degrees of erratic behavior? Maybe someone technical could speak to that as my perspective is of one that just knows enough to be dangerous :p
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] v3rn:
I replied to your android issue. I would have made it a higher priority though. This issue shouldn't exist, and if it's hardware, we need to know ASAP.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] retsen:
Thanks for the comment on the issue and sorry about the priority setting...was my first time posting an issue and I missed that a priority could be set. There doesn't seem to be a way to change priority after the fact unless I'm missing something.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] JayBomb999:
Link to Android issue 58401

Here is the link to Android issue 58401 as created by retsen. Please star the issue if you feel it's important.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=58401
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] kentondb:
Reported to Google as well
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bobafuzz:
I tried factory default and clearing dalvik and cache today to see if that would fix the multitouch axis problem, after the reset I thought it was fixed since I didn't have any multitouch problem at all, until I unplug the tablet from usb. Did some more testing, and concluded that if i have the tablet plugged in, the cross axis issues seems to go away. I also noticed that if you do 3 finger touches, no cross axis issues at all plugged in or not. Can anyone with the problem confirm this in YAMTT?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] v3rn:
Myself and others have already confirmed that. If the tablet is plugged in, axis problems go away. But the ghost touches do not.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] notmilk:
I just received another replacement, my 3rd. This one is perfect, the touch screen is very responsible and no weird jumpy behaviors. HOWEVER, theres this horrible bleeding on top of the screen, i dont know what to do....i'm pretty sure all these issues are hardware related.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] v3rn:
Have you verified with a multi touch testing app? And some people are reporting it gets worse over time. So keep us updated.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] notmilk:
Yes i tested every one of them with YAMTT
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] bobafuzz:
Crossing axis doesn't go crazy for you? This is what mine does :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYGd7GFVqB0 Y-axis not too bad but X-axis the device goes ballistic.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Anderson2:
Is the intermittently freezing touch screen the same problem as the multi-touch firmware problem you identified and so kindly fixed for us?

I ask because the touchscreen intermittently becoming briefly non responsive is the problem I'm having and I don't know if your solution is designed to fix that.

Thank you for all you're doing to help.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Can that be due to the CPU or issues with an app?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
It hasn't been resolved, but there is a workaround that works for many.

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Turn on show pointer and show taps in developer options.

When it is non-responsive, if you see the taps/pointer location still registering, then it is an OS problem and that post might not help. If it is not registering at all, but then comes back in a few seconds, then it will probably help.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Anderson2:
Don't know. That's why I was asking if it was the same problem as what is referred to as the "multi-touch" issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thecapsaicinkid:
My Nexus 7 touchscreen woes came about in a rather odd fashion. I thought my device was perfect until I fitted the official Asus screen protector (this may have coincided with a system update) When I put the device in my plastic desk stand, which was a small block with an angled notch which the tablet sat in, the display would not register touch input reliably. Particular areas of the screen would be worse than others but it became pretty much unusable and yet fine in my hand. I assumed the bottom of the stand, in combination with the more grippy screen protector was putting pressure on the glass and was causing the touch issues. I purchased a new stand which didn't clamp on the glass and supported the device from the rear. The touch issues remained but I noticed if I touch the back of the device at the same time, the touchscreen began to work properly. I don't seem to have issues with the tablet sat on a table/bed/whatever, just on stands.

The 2013 Nexus 7 has been a complete lemon for me. I put it on my stand and I can't type on the screen because of this issue and I can't type on my bluetooth keyboard because of the bluetooth interferring with wifi bug!! Ridiculous.

Why do people call this a 'multi-touch' issue? It affects any touch input, right?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] sfhub:
I had encountered a similar issue with stands. There is a good chance this thread will either make it usable or if you are fortunate get rid of the issue.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2428133

The reason they call it multi-touch is because it originally was noticed as a multi-touch issue and got lots of publicity, but upon further inspection, there were also issues with dead spots, stuck buttons, etc. However it depends on your touchscreen hardware / touchscreen software combo. Some touchscreens behave well with only certain touchscreen software, likely due to touchscreen hardware variances.

Basically multi-touch just "stuck" as the catch-all term for all touchscreen issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] threepwood960:
My main problem is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KDk0keD6Uc&sns=em

And, for example I can't use the Swype keyboard. I bought it in USA, and sent it to the tech support in my country. It went back without problems, but they have come back in 2-3 days.

I would like to know: when an official Google/Asus response?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] edwpang:
I did have keyboard input issue when I set up the N7 2013 I bought a week ago: multiple key input registered after 1 tap. After I updated the system to JSS15Q immediately, I do not have any keyboard issue since then. Today, I specially tested with YAMTT. I tested 8 fingers and didn't see any issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] roytse:
My touch screen have been normal since I bought it, until I put my nexus 7 into a case(rooCASE slimshell) today..

now its a lot less sensitive, I had to tap twice sometimes in order to launch an app. Its perfectly fine if I use my tablet without that case.

Weird:eek::eek::eek:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] player911:
I think your screen is screwed. Looks like you have rows of dead spots. Have you flashed one of the TS fixes?
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thecapsaicinkid:
Just got the latest update, it fixed nothing. Not the screen issues or Bluetooth.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] threepwood960:
My screen was changed in the tech support, but before and after I had the same problem. But it sometimes works and sometimes don't.

I have now sent the tablet again to the tech support.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] polytalk2:
Asus repair touch screen

Guys I had enough with the fixes posted to fix touch screen issues. Unit was new out of box. It should work properly. It didn't. I sent the unit back to Asus for repaired. The touch screen was bad. It was replaced. My nexus 7 2013 works great now. I suggest anyone who is having issues with multi-touch screen to hold Asus accountable for correct function of the unit. I am happy now. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] LoopDoGG79:
Good point. :thumbup:
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] threepwood960:
I got the same, but 2 days later the problems were back. Just next my first charge.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] player911:
I heard the issues come back and/or weren't fixed.

Its not a hardware issue (well it might be) but I never had problems prior to 15Q. 15Q screwed it up. Being able to flash a touchscreen patch proves it mostly software. The problem is Asus used a few different screens and they are all acting different using the 1 touchscreen driver.

Using Sfhubs ts20 fix, so I can fix it myself until/if Google ever fixes it, which I'm sure they will. Pretty easy to replicate and test. Pretty hard to ignore.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] thecapsaicinkid:
It seems like there's no point returning these devices for a replacement.